[07:09] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  if you know 'eough' to do such a nasty thing.. good luck..
[07:09] <siliconwizzard> can anybody tell me hoe to upgrade from roary to breezy?
[07:09] <Seveas> simak, no, you changed that yourself
[07:09] <mooze> hi
[07:09] <cdubya> Seveas, thx
[07:09] <omer> hello guys,please help me!how can i connect to internet under vmware with ubuntu?
[07:09] <Seveas> !breezy
[07:09] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:09] <moquist> does Ubuntu store static routes in a config file somewhere?  somebody's asking me and I have no idea, other than that gateways should be set in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:09] <Seveas> ^-- siliconwizzard
[07:09] <siliconwizzard> thx
[07:09] <simak> Seveas, maybe I did--guess you solved yet another of my probems!
[07:09] <foresight> I can't access the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg command..it just exits right away.
[07:10] <alekandr> Dr_Willis: I wont bork something Im not stupid, well, gdesklets wont load as root, nor if i su
[07:10] <jacoplane> Question: I've got a USB Soundcard (IMIC) that I'm trying to get to work. I think I might need to load the usb audio module ... but I have no idea how. Anyone?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  it may be a security feature of gdesklets.
[07:10] <hawking> is there a possibility that someday this channel will be unbanned for tor users? I can't connect to here from my dormitory :/
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,    wont bork anything.. :P heh 'famous last words'
[07:10] <simak> Seveas, is the following correct (default) permission?
[07:10] <simak> drwxr-xr-x  56 phil phil 4096 2006-01-11 11:40 /home/phil
[07:10] <Seveas> hawking, no
[07:10] <Seveas> simak, yes
[07:10] <omer> hello guys,please help me!how can i connect to internet under vmware with ubuntu?
[07:10] <vamist> hello
[07:11] <simak> Seveas, will this prevent apps from running out of my local ~/bin?
[07:11] <alekandr> Dr_Willis: :shh: Ive done it before, and honestly, a format and reinstall doesnt bother me, its fun :]
[07:11] <Dreamglider> jacoplane, try booting with the soundcard insterted, it worked with me
[07:11] <Seveas> simak, no
[07:11] <vamist> i have a problem with ubuntu installation.. can someone help me?
[07:11] <hawking> Seveas : I see
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  unless your rm  -rf mistake takes out   the whole network. :P seen it happen.,...
[07:11] <Seveas> hawking, there's too much abuse from tor users
[07:11] <alekandr> omer: user NAT as your network connection type when configured the GUEST operating system on vmware!
[07:11] <Seveas> hawking, get yourself a personal cloak and use that :)
[07:12] <Blippe> what is the "alternatives" to automatix
[07:12] <Seveas> Blippe, a brain
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> Seveas,  :P
[07:12] <alekandr> Dr_Willis: I rm -rf /* 'd one night because I was bored ;)
[07:12] <Blippe> nice one..
[07:12] <omer> i am training alekandr
[07:12] <vamist> the install freezes at this message:input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0
[07:12] <Blippe> so easy-something...
[07:12] <vamist> what can I do?
[07:12] <Seveas> Blippe, seriously, reading docs and thinking is a far better replacement than script that ruin your system
[07:12] <simak> Seveas,  if this .dmrc problem on boot came up again, how would I know that it was actually the group permissions of ~?
[07:12] <thoreauputic> Blippe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation   ;)
[07:13] <Seveas> simak, the wording of that message is bad, I should file a bug about it
[07:13] <vamist> noone can help me?
[07:13] <vamist> the install freezes at this message: "input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"
[07:13] <foresight> I can't access the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg command..it just exits right away.
[07:14] <hawking> Seveas : yeah I have my nice sweet shell account for such cases :)
[07:14] <simak> Seveas, you know this .dmrc thing because you just happen to know?
[07:14] <squid0> hi. anyone have any experience with freeciv>
[07:14] <squid0> ?
[07:14] <Seveas> simak, it has happened to more people, the first time it took me an hour to figure it out
[07:14] <Dreamglider> when i do "sudo apt-get update" nothing happens, still here are 17 updates available!!
[07:14] <jenda> squid0: is some drunkard's XP enough?
[07:14] <simak> Seveas, it took me an hour too!  Thanks.
[07:15] <Answer> On my server I am noticing some leftover sshd and -bash processes, associated with users who have been idle for a long time.  Is there a way to kill processes by user so that I dont have to type all the pids ?
[07:15] <Seveas> simak, can you paste the errormessage again
[07:15] <Prozac> Dreamglider do sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:15] <Seveas> I need it for a bugreport
[07:15] <tarvid> during ubuntu install, dhcp fails but I see an offer in my dhcp server logs
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> Dreamglider,  try the 'upgrade' option to actually install the updates
[07:16] <Prozac> update will just update the list
[07:16] <tarvid> any ideas on debugging
[07:16] <Answer> tarvid: dhclient
[07:16] <Dreamglider> Prozac, same deal nothing happens
[07:16] <Majdaa> hello
[07:16] <omer> alekandr the problem is countinuing
[07:16] <vamist> the install freezes at this message: "input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"
[07:16] <Majdaa> i just  i burnt the cd, but it didn't boot from it when i restart it
[07:16] <tarvid> Answer, whatever ubuntu uses during the install
[07:16] <omer> i can not connect to internet
[07:17] <lxIT> Hello everyone
[07:17] <simak> Seveas, is this message logged somewhere where I can get it for you?
[07:17] <Answer> tarvid: you can run dhclient <interface> to manually dhcp
[07:17] <jordo23> Anyone know if there is a package name for XViD codecs for UBUNTU?
[07:17] <Seveas> simak, ~/.xssession-errors or something like that
[07:17] <tarvid> Answer, I'll try that
[07:17] <lxIT> Is there a PHP4 package for Ubuntu 5.10?
[07:18] <Seveas> lxIT, yes
[07:18] <Seveas> !info php4
[07:18] <ubotu> php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-3ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[07:18] <thoreauputic> Answer: not sure, but I think pgrep -u username will return processes of that user
[07:18] <Seveas> !info libapache2-mod-php4
[07:18] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-3ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1515 kB, Installed size: 3096 kB
[07:18] <lxIT> oke, thanks, because I can't find it with "apt-cache search php" > only returns PHP5-packages
[07:18] <omer> will anyone help me,i can not connect to internet under vmware with ubuntu
[07:18] <Majdaa> i just  burnt the ubuntu cd, but it didn't boot from it when i restart it
[07:18] <lxIT> !info php4
[07:18] <omer> will anyone help me,i can not connect to internet under vmware with ubuntu
[07:18] <Seveas> lxIT, enable universe :)
[07:18] <ubotu> php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-3ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[07:19] <thoreauputic> Answer: hmm or maybe -U  ( man pgrep)
[07:19] <Blippe> !weather stockholm, sweden
[07:19] <jordo23> Does anyone know where i can get xvid codecs for Ubuntu?
[07:19] <LostFrog> omer: obviously no-one can/will help you.
[07:19] <lxIT> Seveas: what's universe? (sorry, normally I use Debian, but it doesn't run on my newest Shuttle)
[07:19] <Answer> thoreauputic: it's all the same username, but I think I found a way to do it by tty.   kill -9 `ps -t <tty> -o "pid="`
[07:19] <Seveas> !tell jordo23 about w32codecs
[07:19] <Seveas> !tell lxIT about universe
[07:19] <simak> Seveas, there is no ".dmrc" in the .xsession_errors file
[07:19] <alekandr> omer: restart vmware completely, and make sure when you load it again that it uses NAT
[07:19] <cisoxx> Hello, I am trying to create a debian repository and am new to gnupg and such. I signed my Release files with gnupg and I added my key on the remote machine with apt-key, but I get an error saying something about a conflicting distribution
[07:20] <Seveas> simak, no sweat, I'll just mess up my system to get the error
[07:20] <thoreauputic> Answer:  kill $(pgrep -u username sshd)    ?
[07:20] <spotted> Hello.
[07:20] <spotted> How do I change the fontcolor into white in aterm?
[07:20] <lxIT> Seveas: sorry to be an annoying "newbie", but I don't get response on "!info php4" (I got response on your "!tell" command)
[07:20] <spotted> I see everything black
[07:20] <spotted> :\
[07:20] <omer> alendr i did it nat
[07:20] <simak> Seveas, gosh, I sorry I can't find it.  Can I grep my whole ~ to find it?
[07:20] <Dreamglider> Dr_Willis, http://img499.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1wq.png nothing happens with apt-get upgrade either!
[07:20] <Xenguy> Answer: don't know if this applies to you, but there is an app called 'slay' that kills users and all their processes
[07:21] <Seveas> lxIT, that's because ubotu does not reply to the same question more than once every X seconds
[07:21] <photonics> hello
[07:21] <lxIT> Seveas: oke, thanks!!
[07:21] <simak> I want to learn abotu makefiles for gcc.  Where do I go on IRC?
[07:21] <lxIT> I'll start reading and I'll be back with more questions (if they arise ;o))
[07:22] <omer> alekandr i use nat but the problem already continious
[07:22] <thoreauputic> Answer: looks like pkill would also work..
[07:22] <spotted> Can anyone tell me how to turn the fonts in aterm from black to white?
[07:22] <alekandr> omer: Make sure that vmet8 is loaded, modprobe vmnet8
[07:22] <spotted> I can't read anything
[07:23] <thoreauputic> spotted:  for example  aterm -fg white -bg black
[07:23] <omer> i am looking alekandr
[07:23] <yggdrasil_> how do i google a website
[07:23] <simak> I screwed up my path by adding the wrong /newpaths to it.  Where is it so I can repair it in emacs?
[07:23] <thoreauputic> spotted: many other possibilities in man aterm
[07:23] <Jazs> if i have 2 partitions  , 1 with windows and the other with ubuntu , are any posibility to share  the sames files??
[07:23] <alekandr> Question time: If I had the non root user to the root usergroup, GID 0, what happens, does that user get root powers?
[07:23] <spotted> thoreauputic, I have got that but the font is still black
[07:23] <foresight> I can't access the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg command..it just exits right away.
[07:23] <Seveas> alekandr, no
[07:23] <sproingie> alekandr: group 0 has no special properties
[07:23] <thoreauputic> spotted: very odd
[07:24] <alekandr> Man
[07:24] <sproingie> group 0 is root's user-private group
[07:24] <Jazs> if i have 2 partitions  , 1 with windows and the other with ubuntu , are any posibility to share  the sames files??
[07:24] <vamist> i'm the only one who can noot install ubuntu??
[07:24] <thoreauputic> spotted: just ran that here and it worked fine...
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> Jazs,  several ways
[07:24] <alekandr> I want to add a non root user to root, or at least give it as much control as possible, is that possible Seveas, sproingie ?
[07:24] <Jazs> how can i make it_
[07:24] <vamist> i heard that is a great distro and i can't install it :(
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> Jazs,  linux can 'read only' the ntfs partition.
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[07:25] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[07:25] <Seveas> alekandr, no
[07:25] <thoreauputic> spotted: try  aterm -rv  ( reverse video)
[07:25] <sproingie> alekandr: there's no such notion in unix as there is in windows.  you want to edit the sudoers file and use sudo
[07:25] <Jazs> and windows can read ext3 files?
[07:25] <sproingie> !tell alekandr about sudo
[07:25] <carcamo> hi
[07:25] <alekandr> I know what sudo is
[07:25] <alekandr> man
[07:25] <alekandr> I dont want to sudo
[07:25] <Jazs> Dr_Willis, and windows can read ext3 files?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> Jazs, http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html it can access the linux partitions
[07:25] <lowman62> g'aftnoon tech support room ;)
[07:25] <MeTaLL> maybe make a fat32 partition, to share files between tux, winhoos
[07:25] <Jazs> ok thanks Dr_Willis
[07:26] <sproingie> alekandr: you can give the user uid 0 if you want, but i guarantee it will confuse all hell out of most apps who will still think your name is root
[07:26] <Jazs> ok thanks
[07:26] <sproingie> alekandr: otherwise, what you're asking for is not possible
[07:26] <alekandr> Someone rewrite gdesklets, and remove the root security check!
[07:26] <paladinew> is there a somewhat simple way to get a SECURE / encrypted remote desktop connection from 1 ubuntu box to another? I'm not having any luck tryong FreeNX
[07:26] <alekandr> Ill give you a kiss for you ;)
[07:26] <thoreauputic> alekandr: root is root - you can get a root shell with sudo -i
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  go ahead...
[07:26] <Jazs> is any steam version to linux_
[07:27] <lxIT> Should I enable only the "universe"-sources or do I need the "default" repos also?
[07:27] <spotted> :ExecCommand aterm -name aterm -sl 3000 -tr +sb -sr -sk -bg black -fg \
[07:27] <spotted> white -fade 90 -bl -tn xterm -fn \
[07:27] <spotted> -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15 -g 116x57
[07:27] <alekandr> FOR THE LAST TIME: I know what sudo is ok
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  go find the linspire version of the packages :P
[07:27] <spotted> That's what I have
[07:27] <Seveas> alekandr, if you want to run as root all the time: use linspire
[07:27] <MeTaLL> steam can be runned with cedega i think
[07:27] <sproingie> alekandr: it's not possible to create multiple root users.  the end.
[07:27] <alekandr> I run as root all the time now.
[07:27] <cleo> why doesn't vim delete temporary files?  :P
[07:28] <cleo> HappyFool: do you now how to disable this?
[07:28] <sproingie> he picked the wrong guy to get lippy with
[07:28] <paladinew> is there a somewhat simple way to get a SECURE / encrypted remote desktop connection from 1 ubuntu box to another? I'm not having any luck tryong FreeNX
[07:28] <Jazs> yeah thanks
[07:28] <MeTaLL> but i think thats not working
[07:29] <thoreauputic> Seveas: hah - you don't gag peole when they are insulting?
[07:29] <Seveas> thoreauputic, yes, but I don't insult back publicly
[07:29] <Jazs> i think not
[07:29] <lowman62> paladinew: ssh
[07:29] <HappyFool> cleo: no. there are a few hardcore vim users here; maybe they know
[07:29] <Jazs> maybe i can make rpgm cedega free version
[07:29] <Jazs> and compile it
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> the cvs cedega maybe lacking a few features..
[07:30] <alekandr> That was uncalled for, I never asked for your interferance, and it wasnt intended to look as If i were shouting
[07:30] <lowman62> whatis cedega?
[07:30] <lxIT> !help universe
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> lowman62,  a comercial variant of wine thats designed to play games mainly
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> lowman62,  some have good success with it.. others not so good.
[07:31] <lxIT> !info universe
[07:31] <MeTaLL> especialy dx games
[07:31] <paladinew> lowman62: I wasn't having much luck finding any good tuturials on setting up a remote ssh session
[07:31] <lowman62> oh cool! thx Dr_Willis
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> lowman62,  used to be called "WineX"
[07:31] <vamist> I want to install ubuntu and my system freezes... can someone help me PLEASE!!!
[07:31] <lowman62> oh i have heard of that before
[07:31] <lxIT> !easysource
[07:31] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:31] <crimsun> vamist: where does it freeze?
[07:32] <vamist> when the installer start at the message: "input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"
[07:32] <lowman62> what do you think of crossover..is it any good for games?
[07:32] <MeTaLL> k i go watch lost now, after that i go install :)
[07:32] <xored> how to show the current print-spool ?
[07:32] <MeTaLL> games and crossover, doesnt work
[07:32] <Seveas> xored, lpq
[07:33] <thegladiator> i have got a divx movie - green mile . but the sound is not in syn with the video
[07:33] <vamist> crimsun> any ideea how to solve this?
[07:33] <lowman62> well i am not a gamer but was just wondering *shrugs*
[07:33] <thegladiator> how can I correct this ?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> i use cedega with a lot of windows apps - not just games.
[07:33] <thegladiator> like adjust the sound ?
[07:33] <paladinew> Anyone know a good tuturial on setting up ssh remote desktop connections ?
[07:33] <lowman62> thegladiator: I had to enable dma to stop that myself
[07:33] <MeTaLL> maybe u must dl, the codecs for it?
[07:33] <xored> Seveas: its seems, somhow it stucked. How can i debug / restart
[07:34] <thegladiator> lowman62, guess its a odd case . whats with dma ? how can I do that ?
[07:34] <alekandr> Dr_Willis: by any chance, have you gotten steam to work under cedega?
[07:34] <thegladiator> lowman62, it was happening with every movie you played  ? guess for me this movie only has the prob not ny other
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  i gave up on HL2 under windows due to the stream bull#$$#@
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  i do hear it works however.
[07:35] <alekandr> Dr_Willis: I miss playing CS:S
[07:35] <lowman62> thegladiator: hold on I have to go back to my desktop to find that for you...and yes it happened no matter what type of movie I watched ...was like old kung fu movies where the lips never matched LOL brb
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  i dont miss it much :P
[07:35] <thegladiator> lol yep
[07:36] <alekandr> Dr_Willis: america's army, and et, is all you need ;)
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  i perfer the various emulators.
[07:37] <Dreamglider> can anyone help me updating my laptop, i tried apt-get update and upgrade, and nothing happens :/
[07:37] <Nei> my system is currently in a bit bad shape, 'sudo' hangs
[07:38] <Nei> would anyone hapen to know whether I have any chance tofind out what's going wrong?
[07:38] <paladinew> Does anyone know a step by step tuturial for setting up SSH, and forwarding the remote desktop ports over the connection ?
[07:38] <xored> how to reset the printer sppol or delete a specific job ?
[07:38] <alekandr> <3 no-ip.com <3
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> xored,  lpq, and lprm commands
[07:39] <thegladiator> lowman62, for me the problem with just a single mvoie
[07:39] <thegladiator> movie*
[07:39] <MeTaLL> ssh port forwarding help here ---> http://librenix.com/?inode=695
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> paladinew,  the gnome remote desktop uses vnc i belive. theres dosens of ssh tutorial/tips/sites out .
[07:39] <thegladiator> it could be the problem with the file I suspect
[07:40] <thegladiator> hence any playes like virtual dub for windows in linux ?
[07:40] <thegladiator> to syn sound with video for movies in which they dont match ?>
[07:40] <thegladiator> sync*
[07:41] <xored> Dr_Willis: thank you
[07:41] <MeTaLL> if its only that particular movie, i would say its the codecs, but all movies could indeed be your dma settings
[07:41] <Pyroti> okay.. the file-roller won't extract my tar.. (which I copied from a windows machine using a USB key.. don't got any access to the internet from a linux box, so I sorta had to do that..) what could I do? I can't use the tar command either.. it spits out "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format | tar: Child returned status 1 | tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors"
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Pyroti,  try 'file filename.tar' and see what kind of file it says it is.
[07:42] <thegladiator> MeTaLL, only this movie
[07:42] <thegladiator> but if the movie works well , it could be the codecs ?
[07:43] <MeTaLL> if only this movie is not in sync, then i think u need to search for the newest codecs
[07:43] <Pyroti> Dr_Willis: POSIX tar archive
[07:43] <thegladiator> ok
[07:43] <MeTaLL> mostly the codecs will give u this kind of troubles, no sound or unsynced sound
[07:44] <thegladiator> dont know what codecs though this is just a avi file
[07:44] <thegladiator> i installed the common codecs
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> Pyroti,  perhaps its not gzipped
[07:44] <omer> hahaaaaahah
[07:44] <xored> 3 ringer fr einen netten 5on5 freundschaftskrieg. Am besten jetzt ;)
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> tar xvf ffilename
[07:44] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:44] <thegladiator> lowman62, thanks for the help . its time for me to leave .
[07:44] <Pyroti> Thank you, Dr_Willis :)
[07:44] <MeTaLL> try looking for the ACEcodecs, they worked for me
[07:44] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <aliquis> ugh ugh, does anyone know why i get this in ubuntu 5.10?
[07:45] <aliquis> hagge@c-20c670d5:~$ ssh-agent -s
[07:45] <aliquis> bind: Permission denied
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Pyroti,  heh - its always the little things that get ya :P
[07:45] <thegladiator> acecodecs is in synaptic ?
[07:45] <yggdrasil_> does somone have a cdkey for ubunut i can get ?
[07:45] <pewp> does ubuntu come with selinux?
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> 0_o
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <MeTaLL> nope, u better look in some torrent sites for it
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <Pyroti> omer..
[07:45] <yggdrasil_> thanks meall ill do that
[07:45] <aliquis> wtf..
[07:45] <pewp> does ubuntu come with selinux?
[07:45] <pewp> ??
[07:45] <thegladiator> yep. and it has to be compile from source or something ?
[07:46] <MeTaLL> if its good, they come compiled and as source
[07:46] <thegladiator> thank you
[07:46] <thegladiator> i shall try it out
[07:46] <MeTaLL> but i need to go sry, frind is waiting in car outside, lol
[07:46] <jimmy_> hi, when i try to install the j2sdk1.4 (this is the sun jdk right?) i get the following error (synaptic):  403 Forbidden (seveas repository)
[07:46] <thegladiator> have a blast
[07:46] <thegladiator> cya
[07:46] <MeTaLL> good luck :)
[07:46] <thegladiator> to you too :)
[07:47] <aliquis> i see this interweb is new in uganda?
[07:47] <Seveas> omer, do that again and you're out
[07:47] <Seveas> !tell jimmy_ about seveas
[07:47] <manicka> pewp: it has the selinux libraries
[07:48] <hawking> I can't run the sound of a program of me and amarok at the same time... one gives gstreamer-error... how can i fix that?
[07:48] <jimmy_> thx
[07:48] <trexis> hi
[07:49] <trexis> can you install skystar2 ?'
[07:49] <trexis> i need help
[07:49] <trexis> please
[07:49] <Seveas> trexis, what is that?
[07:49] <trexis> tha is a sat pci
[07:49] <sally_> why does cpufreqd conflict with powernowd?
[07:50] <Seveas> sally_, bacause they provide the same functionality
[07:50] <thegladiator> my windowshas some virus will it affect ubuntu ?
[07:50] <rocketman327> no
[07:50] <thegladiator> AVG doesnt heal  it
[07:50] <sally_> Seveas, how do I know which one I should use?
[07:50] <rocketman327> well it depends on what the virus does but most likely not
[07:50] <thegladiator> it wont affect at all rocketman327  ?
[07:51] <thegladiator> yes the file system is diff
[07:51] <Seveas> trexis, hmm, never dealed eith those, I think goole.com/search?q=skystar+linux is the best step
[07:51] <thegladiator> hence I was assuming the same
[07:51] <rocketman327> thegladiator: well if it trashes your hd then yea it will effect linux but it can't spread to linux
[07:51] <\sh> thegladiator: it will affect ubuntu in this way, that you can now happily mkfs.xfs /dev/<your windows partition> you don't need it anymore :)
[07:51] <rocketman327> \sh: lol
[07:52] <thegladiator> :/ i expected this answer from someone :)
[07:52] <trexis> ok
[07:52] <thegladiator> glad u didnt dissapoint :p
[07:52] <thegladiator> rocketman327, are there virus that goes beyond FAT ?:)
[07:52] <\sh> thegladiator: well..thinking of the WMF issue inside wine..will give me the thought that windows in common is not a good idea :)
[07:52] <pal_> Seveas can you please paste again the command for header files (vmware) i need it again
[07:52] <rocketman327> hey, i'm trying to compile a kernel and I have two questions.  why is the i2c compiling as a module when I don't want it to compile at all and second why is a basic file like i2c-core.c throwing errors and not compiling?
[07:53] <thegladiator> :)
[07:53] <rocketman327> thegladiator: yea, but its a rare thing
[07:53] <Seveas> pal_, apt-get install gcc-3.4 linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:53] <thegladiator> thanks rocketman327
[07:53] <thegladiator> thanks \sh
[07:53] <\sh> thegladiator: no...the logic behind xfs, ext2 etc. are too big for those viruses...most of the time "those viruses are simple bugs inside the scripting engine of windows"
[07:53] <pal_> thanks Seveas
[07:53] <thegladiator> yes thank you i was guessing the same
[07:53] <rocketman327> thegladiator: those usually effect things like web browsers and don't go further than web browsers in linux because the code to corrupt the os is for windows
[07:54] <hawking> anyone knows how I can make two programs give sound without giving any gstreamer-error? I use ALSA
[07:54] <rocketman327> hawking: like mixing the two sounds?  or one playing while the other is stopped?
[07:54] <hawking> rocketman237 : mixing
[07:55] <hawking> rocketman237 : or if that's not possible playing one while other is stopped
[07:56] <rocketman327> hawking: not really sure, thats an also thing... I think my other computer does it for some things (audio cd's seem to trump all) let me check my alsa config file
[07:56] <hawking> k
[07:58] <user__> hi
[07:58] <netstar> better protend to be sleeping bbl
[07:58] <Dreamglider> http://pastebin.com/501216
[07:59] <LostFrog> ok. holding down C on my Mac gets me to yaboot, but it complains about an unkown or corrupt filesystem.
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> LostFrog,  you sure that older mac ya got can read cd+r or cd-rw or cd-r?
[08:00] <sally_> I set VERBOSE=yes in /etc/default/rcS... what file is the extra debug output in?
[08:00] <rocketman327> hawking: I'm not sure... have you just tried it?  I seem to remember wanting that and one day it just worked
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> LostFrog,  fought all day with a laptop once  because of that.
[08:00] <jorgp> anyone familiar with hal config
[08:00] <hawking> rocketman327 : so if I wish it so much will it work some day? :)
[08:01] <LostFrog> I could try swapping it out.
[08:01] <rocketman327> hawking: lol, I'll keep checking
[08:01] <LostFrog> Let me try that.
[08:01] <lowman62> thegladiator: are you still here?
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> LostFrog,  other then that.. no clue..or the cd is bad/bad burn/bad iso file
[08:01] <LostFrog> I can read it in Windoze.
[08:02] <rocketman327> so anyone have any idea why basic kernel files are throwing compiler errors?
[08:02] <lowman62> rocketman327: I seen that one before...did you try updating gcc?
[08:03] <hawking> so no Alsa users here know how to get rid of this gstreamer-error device is busy message?
[08:03] <rocketman327> lowman62: no, but that I shall do... ummm... how do I do that? (its probably something simple)  is it that icon telling me about updates in the upper corner?
[08:03] <lowman62> hawking: is that in amaroK that you are having that trouble?
[08:04] <lowman62> rocketman327: sudo apt-get install gcc ...I guess
[08:04] <rocketman327> thanks
[08:04] <hawking> lowman : yes
[08:04] <rocketman327> lowman62: it says its the newest version
[08:05] <lowman62> hawking: what i did was this...
[08:05] <lowman62> hawking: I selected xine as the engine and clicked apply..then it allowed me to select alsa...click apply and it should work
[08:05] <hawking> lemme try
[08:06] <lowman62> hawking: just use the defaults it gives you for alsa
[08:06] <hawking> lowman62 : so I'Ll have to get xine right?
[08:06] <lowman62> hawking: that gstreamer engine was flying through my mp3 list like it was on acid LOL
[08:07] <lowman62> yes get gxine
[08:07] <LostFrog> How do I lose a CD in 5 minutes time?
[08:07] <rocketman327> lowman62: any idea why it wants to build i2c as a module when I don't need it?  (I commented it out in the .config file but it changes it)
[08:07] <lowman62> rocketman327: it may possibly be a dependency file
[08:07] <hawking> lowman62 : u said gxine or was that a typo? I mean did u mean xine?
[08:08] <slippn> Does anyone here know how to set wlan params with iwconfig?  I'm using the newest linux-source-2.6.15 and ndiswrapper, wlan0 is up, but iwconfig (v27 and v28) cannot set params (no v19 support)... any ideas?
[08:08] <greenpenguin13> my friend seems to be having trouble with his screen resolution
[08:08] <lowman62> hawking: sudo apt-get install xine ;)
[08:08] <Dreamglider> how can i fix my laptop wich wont update if i type sudo apt-get update nor upgrade, Synaptic wont start and update manager wont run either!
[08:08] <rocketman327> lowman62: what do you mean?  dependency to what?
[08:08] <sally_> has no one ever set VERBOSE in /etc/default/rcS ?
[08:08] <hawking> lowman62 : that was clear enough :)
[08:08] <rocketman327> hawking: awesome!
[08:08] <hawking> rocketman327 : indeed
[08:09] <jorgp> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:09] <nagyv> Dreamglider, sorry, but are they installed?
[08:09] <Dreamglider> nagyv, synaptic and update manager are installed
[08:09] <slippn> is there any wireless tools that could set params for drivers with v19 of wireless extensions?
[08:09] <greenpenguin13> his x log says that its ignoring a request to load glcore
[08:10] <lowman62> rocketman327: the one thing I have found about installing in linux is that a lot of installs require some form of unwanted cr@p <--pardon my winglish :P
[08:10] <bart__> Just found out about a programm called Gdesklet,, pity is that the website containing those widgets doesn't have a lot of them, does somebody know another source to get them from?
[08:10] <nagyv> are you trying to run synaptic from the console? Is there any output?
[08:10] <yggdrasil_> is therea good how to for dual monitor setup ?
[08:10] <greenpenguin13> and "fails to detect secondary monitor" which he doesnt have
[08:10] <rocketman327> lowman62: i'm not installing anything, i'm compiling a kernel
[08:10] <lowman62> rocketman327: why is a good question...the answer is ..*shrugs* :P
[08:11] <rocketman327> lowman62: np, I'll figure it out
[08:11] <lowman62> rocketman327: did you update your gcc?
[08:11] <Dreamglider> nagyv, in shell, apt-get update and upgrade dont give any output
[08:11] <rocketman327> lowman62: this can't be anymore complicated than gentoo
[08:11] <bwlang> whoa - updated dapper and it freaked out on reboot with an old initrd - couldn't find /dev/hda2  booting without initrd let me come up and rebuild the kernel - which works okay.  Is this a bug?
[08:11] <nagyv> Dreamglider, are you root?
[08:12] <yggdrasil_> what is this dapper i keep hearing about
[08:12] <lowman62> rocketman327: nah! I tried gentoo...this should be a dream in comparison
[08:12] <nagyv> Dreamglider, or you are sudoing?
[08:12] <Dreamglider> nagyv, i use usdo yes
[08:12] <Dreamglider> nagyv, sudo **
[08:13] <bwlang> yggdrasil_: it's a test version of ubuntu
[08:13] <greenpenguin13> he only gets a really low screen resolution as an option, but higher ones are in xorg.conf
[08:13] <rocketman327> lowman62: so far it has been, I'm really enjoying this for my laptop.  but I will have to stick with gentoo on my desktop cause i'm a control freak and I have it setup just perfect for me after many years of hard work
[08:13] <yggdrasil_> oh i see
[08:13] <hawking> lowman62 : there is a nicer package amarok-xine -- xine engine for amarok :)
[08:13] <ian_> server irc.flock.com
[08:13] <nagyv> Dreamglider, is ther any output if you run simply # sudo apt-get?
[08:13] <yggdrasil_> so ...is therea good how to for dual monitor setup ?
[08:13] <ian_> I'm a retard
[08:13] <nagyv> sorry $ sudo apt-get
[08:13] <yggdrasil_> ian me 2
[08:13] <yggdrasil_> ian_ me 2
[08:13] <Dreamglider> nagyv, No
[08:13] <lowman62> hawking: you got it to work I take it?
[08:14] <phaer_> Hi
[08:14] <hawking> lowman62 : not yet :)
[08:14] <lowman62> rocketman327: yes I understand that...so am I LOL <--total control freak
[08:14] <nagyv> Dreamglider, Just to be closer to the fire, please log in first as root. And run it again.
[08:14] <phaer_> How can i tell xorg to start another wm?
[08:15] <lowman62> phone brb
[08:15] <slippn> anyone have a working wireless-tools with ndiswrapper in 2.6.15?  mine wont set any params for the ndiswrapper driver
[08:15] <Dreamglider> ok logging on as root
[08:15] <rocketman327> include/linux/i2c.h:58: error: array type has incomplete element type
[08:15] <rocketman327> wtf?!  in a standard linux kernel file, what gives?!
[08:15] <Dreamglider> hmm, how do i login as root :)
[08:16] <rocketman327> Dreamglider: you don't use   sudo -s
[08:16] <hawking> slippn : do you have 2.6.15 kernel? does it work without problems with ubuntu?
[08:16] <slippn> hawking: yawp
[08:16] <slippn> hawking: everything is fine cept tyring to bring up wlan on ndiswrapper with wireless-tools
[08:17] <slippn> hawking: amaziling :-P
[08:17] <hawking> slippn : ur not on a laptop right?
[08:17] <slippn> hawking; haha yah
[08:17] <nagyv> Dreamglider, If you want to log in as root, you have to set up a root passwd. For this use $ sudo passwd
[08:17] <hawking> slippn : and it worked without probs? what's ur laptop?
[08:17] <slippn> hawking: HP v2000
[08:17] <hawking> I heard people saying 2.6.15 is conflicting with hotplug or smth
[08:18] <slippn> hawking: didn't have any probs with the kernel loading, all modules for mice, sound, etc, all loaded and run fine
[08:18] <phaer_> i'd like to start fluxbox, but id don't know how to config xorg correctly. In which configfile can i find the right entries? it isn't xinitrc?
[08:18] <slippn> just wireless-tools (v27 and v28) can't seem to set any params for the ndiswrapper driver (its a bcm43xx)
[08:18] <slippn> i've tried the berlios driver and it wont even do a scan
[08:18] <hawking> phaer_ : google it.. asking here will take longer
[08:18] <hawking> phaer_ : there are thousands of manuals for it
[08:19] <kent> phaer_, install it and then you can choose fluxbox from the loginscreen.  (called gdm).
[08:19] <fluffyashes> i'm running breezy badger ubuntu and i tried to upgrade to firefox 1.5 using the tarball from mozilla since the repositories dont have 1.5 and firefox will no longer start
[08:19] <Dreamglider> i cant login as root
[08:19] <rocketman327> hmmmm.... looks like I might have installed the wrong kernel files... :-[
[08:19] <hawking> slippin : so I am compiling it right now ...
[08:19] <phaer_> kent: no gdm installed
[08:19] <rocketman327> well i'm off to class... ttyl
[08:19] <DShepherd> Can i take a screenshot with menus open?
[08:19] <fluffyashes> can anyone help me?
[08:19] <slippn> hawking: excellent.. I grabbed the newest linux-source from Dapper repos.
[08:19] <kent> phaer_, then is it not like .xinitrc in your home?
[08:19] <slippn> hawking: worked liek a charm
[08:20] <slippn> hawking: even got the vesafb-tng patch to load on this kernel, schweet
[08:20] <neels> Java Plugin in Firefox geht nicht ?? Kennt sich einer aus?
[08:20] <dfullert> Is there a fix for the adaptec 1200s SCSI problem?
[08:20] <hawking> slippn : I don't know how to get a kernel from dapper... I usually compile it myself taking it from kernel.org..
[08:20] <phaer_> kent: don't thinks so, because my current wm ( wmaker ) isn't there.
[08:20] <hawking> slippn : is dapper way easier?
[08:20] <fluffyashes> can anyone give me some firefox help?
[08:21] <neels> firefox help like what?
[08:21] <fluffyashes> i tried to upgrade to 1.5 using the tarball from mozilla and now firefox wont even start
[08:21] <slippn> hawking: nah the config the same, just set breezy in the us.** repos to dapper and try and grab it
[08:21] <fluffyashes> i even did apt-get remove firefox and then apt-get install firefox
[08:21] <Pygi> !ff1.5
[08:21] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:21] <slippn> hawking: that might confuse apt-get though... but thast what I did..
[08:21] <neels> does firefox 1.5 also solve the problem that i can't get the java plugin to run??
[08:22] <hawking> slippn : so is the compilation done automatically or do you do it?
[08:22] <slippn> damn this wireless card, and my neighbor just seemed to install a G network with no ecnryption.. bummer
[08:22] <nagyv> sorry, I have to leave. Bye!
[08:22] <slippn> hawking: not too familar with ubuntu-centrized kernel compile, i just do make menuconfig (im an old gentoo user)
[08:22] <neels> stop logging out guys, i want an answer on how to get the firefox java plugin to run
[08:22] <slippn> hawking: i dont even use the kpkg command to build it
[08:22] <slippn> hawking; :-D
[08:23] <neels> I did the linking and stuff but it won't work. any experience outthere?
[08:23] <hawking> slippn : anyway I'll use my own way :p
[08:23] <lowman62> ok am back... hawking: you get that workin?
[08:23] <hawking> lowman62 : not yet still downloading .. I've just reinstalled my system so I have lots of files to download it'll take some time
[08:24] <blue-frog> neels, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76754
[08:24] <neels> blue-frog: thanks! (reading....)
[08:24] <blue-frog> neels, and once it's done u need to close firefox (allfirefox windows)
[08:24] <lowman62> hawking: okay! just let me know ..I want to know if it was the same exact issue I had ;) if so I put a quick fix up for it
[08:24] <neels> obviously...
[08:24] <DShepherd> Can i take a screenshot of either the Main menu or a window with menus open?
[08:24] <hawking> slippn : I have 2.6.14 right now are there many new things in 2.6.15 ? I mean is it worth compiling
[08:24] <hawking> lowman62 : sure
[08:24] <thefamousnomo> hello people
[08:25] <fluffyashes> ubotu: following the instructions on that page i get an error at the step where you do: sudo touch<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:25] <ubotu> fluffyashes: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[08:25] <slippn> hawking: nah not really, i'd wait, but I did not have any problems copiling the newest dapper kernel (2.6.15-11-??)
[08:26] <lowman62> hawking: it is a minor version update...I would only use major updates and well the automatic updater in ubuntu will let you know when a new stable kernel is available ;)
[08:26] <knewt> anyone got any idea which bit of gnome watches the media buttons on my laptop?
[08:26] <slippn> hawking: I like to break things :)D
[08:26] <yggdrasil_> can somone tell me if ubuntu will make me more popular with the ladies ?
[08:26] <hawking> slippn : hehe
[08:26] <lowman62> slippn: that is how you learn ;)
[08:26] <Dreamglider> fook this pc
[08:26] <slippn> slippn: this is true
[08:26] <drunkpikachu> Im hoping the ladies are gonna want to be all up in my kubuntu laptop
[08:26] <slippn> err
[08:27] <garry> Hahaha
[08:27] <drunkpikachu> If I can get it to install that is.....
[08:27] <hawking> slippn : do you know how to disable fn+fx hotkeys ?
[08:27] <garry> Have you downloaded the LFL Linux for Ladies iso yet?
[08:27] <dfullert> Anyone seen a fix for installing Ubuntu on a computer usung the adaptec 1200s SCSI controller??
[08:28] <lsuactiafner> anyone know of open-source software for sony erricson k750i?
[08:28] <lowman62> drunkpikachu: I installed ubuntu on my wifes computer and told her it was the new version of windows xp...she loves it..but hates linux LOL :P
[08:28] <dfullert> Is there anyway I can fix that?
[08:28] <Dreamglider> i'll just have to reinstall ubuntu
[08:28] <thefamousnomo> can anyone confirm that i have to install a load of codecs before installing libdvdread3?
[08:28] <Pyroti> lowman62, haha that's genius :D
[08:28] <drunkpikachu> does anyone know why my ubuntu installer hangs up right after loading (what I can only guess is-) the actual installer?
[08:28] <thefamousnomo> to acheive dvd playback compatibility?
[08:29] <lowman62> thefamousnomo: w32codecs <--you'll appreciate that
[08:29] <calamari> hi
[08:29] <slippn> hawking: if your in gnome, you can set the function hotkeys.
[08:29] <slippn> well im out guys time to take g/f to lunch and reboot under 2.6.14 for that new wireless netowkr :-P l8r
[08:30] <thefamousnomo> wasnt sure if libdvdread3 was enough. thanks again guys @ lowman62!
[08:30] <lowman62> thefamousnomo: yw :)
[08:30] <gundu> Hi
[08:30] <lowman62> Hi
[08:30] <calamari> my workspace switcher has become extra wide... not sure how it got this way.  how can I shrink it?
[08:30] <gundu> needing java sdk < v5.0 but my actually sources haven't got it
[08:30] <Dreamglider> what's the diffrence on a normal install and a server install ?
[08:31] <dfullert> fuck that
[08:31] <lowman62> Dreamglider: you want the default install...server is plain vanilla no x
[08:32] <ejofee> how do i enable the flash plugin in opera?
[08:32] <lowman62> calamari: how many desktops have you got it set to?
[08:32] <neels> (wow, lots of browser issues today :)
[08:33] <calamari> lowman62: 4, in a 2x2 configuration.  it's weird because it just went wide on this boot
[08:33] <lowman62> neels: I think that issue is pretty main stay actually LOL :P
[08:33] <hawking> slippn : if in kde?
[08:33] <drunkpikachu> anyone know why my installer might be locking up at a screen displaying things likes [493.846478]  io scheduler cfq registered?
[08:33] <hawking> anyone knows how to configure laptop hotkeys in kde?
[08:33] <lowman62> calamari: try removing it and adding it again...that is what I did..the same thing happened to me
[08:34] <foresight> lowman62, debian didnt even finish install before it bailed, and fedora just didnt want to install :p So I just posted on the forums and hope :)
[08:34] <namir> oi
[08:34] <namir> puzy
[08:34] <lowman62> foresight: bummer, how about mandriva?
[08:34] <foresight> lowman62, havent tried
[08:34] <Telemachus> where do i get a wmv codec for WMV files?
[08:34] <Pygi> !wmw
[08:34] <ubotu> Pygi: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:34] <calamari> lowman62: that fixed it.  thanks!  why didn't I think of doing that?  hehe
[08:34] <Pygi> !wma
[08:34] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:35] <lowman62> calamari: that is why folks are in here...to help ;) yw!
[08:35] <neels> H! I dont believe it. The damn plugin works now. Apparently, installing in ~/.firefox/plugins/ is not enough, it needs to be /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[08:36] <lowman62> foresight: I have a machine in the back that will not install any other distro but mandrake or as it is called now mandriva...maybe you have a machine just like it LOL
[08:36] <foresight> lowman62, heh..well could always try..ubuntu still wont go so...why not :D
[08:36] <lowman62> heck it pukes on windowz not that i blame it :P
[08:37] <neels> blue-frog: thx, u m8 my day
[08:37] <lowman62> foresight: check it out..is worth a go
[08:37] <Zandaa> hey guys, what kinda partitions can Linux read/write?
[08:38] <darkkyokusanagi> Goodnight :)
[08:38] <foresight> Whats the defenition of i586 compared to i386 ?
[08:38] <neels> Zandaa: a lot, but windows NTFS is still read-only
[08:38] <lowman62> i got to get out of this CLI and bitchx <--hate this thing...brb
[08:38] <neels> except the newest kernel can write, too
[08:38] <neels> but not guaranteed stable....
[08:38] <Zandaa> neels, so fat32 would work for a win/lin common drive?
[08:38] <neels> yes, fat32 works super
[08:38] <picasso> hey hey everybody! anybody know how to disable the login sound when gdm loads up on boot?
[08:38] <picasso> its flippin annoying on my laptop!
[08:38] <neels> running win2k (ARRGHH!!) with fat32
[08:39] <neels> just for university homework...
[08:39] <neels> need win, unfortunately
[08:39] <Zandaa> ok, thanks
[08:39] <lowman62> ok am back..few much better
[08:39] <omer> i have lexmark X1195 multifunctional printer
[08:40] <omer> but it dos't work in ubuntu
[08:40] <omer> can you help me
[08:40] <picasso> i don't see the sound setting anywhere in login screen admin tool
[08:40] <lowman62> omer: searching for you...one sec
[08:40] <Telemachus> i586 = first generation pentium
[08:42] <ejofee> how do i enable the flash plugin in opera?
[08:42] <Bishop4523> can anybody tell me how to move to irc.perl.org thru xchat???
[08:42] <Bishop4523> plz:)
[08:42] <dmoyne> hello ! ; I cnnot get my printer working with CUPS anybody to help ?
[08:43] <nicknocknickermi> hum
[08:43] <hawking> I have a laptop and on kde I get messages saying Display Changed : LCD On / Lcd Off sometimes... I don't know and can't understand the reason
[08:44] <hawking> anyone knows?
[08:44] <drunkpikachu> nope :\
[08:45] <_marius_> When it says nforce drivers on nvidia.com, do you think they mean nvidiageforce drivers?
[08:45] <picasso> marius: nforce is a motherboard/chipset i think.
[08:45] <neels> _marius_: probably NOT
[08:45] <_marius_> ok
[08:45] <omer> lowman62: ?
[08:45] <picasso> so does everyone have the damned login sound when they boot up to ubuntu?
[08:45] <_marius_> well, when it says graphic drivers and nothing more, you think that's a kind of universal driver?
[08:45] <picasso> or question sound
[08:45] <neels> drivers should say exactly what they are
[08:46] <neels> except....
[08:46] <lowman62> omer: try this Lexmark-X73-drv_z42.ppd.gz <--is supposed to work
[08:46] <neels> well, the nvidia glx works for my nvidia card anyhow, the ubuntu package one
[08:46] <neels> _marius_: worth a try anyway, i'd say
[08:47] <picasso> sheesh
[08:47] <picasso> this should be easy to do
[08:47] <_marius_>  okey, one last newbish question. How do people type in that red font?
[08:47] <neels> _marius_: did you try the nvidia glx package?
[08:47] <drunkpikachu> Anyone have any clues or leads to why my installer just hangs near the beggining at:   intput : AT Translated Set 2 Keyboard on isa0060/serio0
[08:47] <omer> ok
[08:47] <neels> _marius_: like installing other software, in synaptic?
[08:47] <lowman62> omer: i just used it with my x75 works
[08:47] <DShepherd> are there any docs on what is required for a pacakage to get in the repos?
[08:48] <neels> drunkpikachu: installer for what?
[08:48] <drunkpikachu> kubuntu
[08:48] <omer> lowman62: can you give me a web adres
[08:48] <neels> drunkpikachu: try reading some of the other F5, F6 etc pages
[08:49] <drunkpikachu> in all honesty I did, but I have no idea what I'm looking for
[08:49] <drunkpikachu> I'm a complete noob
[08:49] <neels> drunkpikachu: for my ex girlfriend's laptop, i had to supply one of those
[08:49] <neels> welll.......
[08:49] <hawking> lowman62 : that didn't work :/
[08:49] <neels> :P
[08:49] <drunkpikachu> lol, but what do you mean by supply one of those
[08:49] <neels> just keep trying, maybe
[08:50] <neels> :P
[08:50] <neels> like
[08:50] <neels> um what was it?
[08:50] <drunkpikachu> keyboard?
[08:50] <neels> hehe
[08:50] <drunkpikachu> but this thing is a laptop
[08:50] <drunkpikachu> or so I've been told :P
[08:51] <tahorg> drunkpikachu: try 'linux noapic' to boot
[08:51] <Pyroti> But what if, what you've been told, is a lie?
[08:51] <drunkpikachu> will do
[08:51] <neels> drunkpikachu: let me try and remember
[08:51] <hawking> lowman62 : any other ideas ?
[08:51] <drunkpikachu> bastards at compaq better not have lied to me
[08:51] <DShepherd> Any devs on?
[08:51] <ejofee> gnomefreak: thank you
[08:51] <lowman62> hawking: oh no! really...did you try changing to the xine engine then applying then selecting alsa then once again applying?
[08:52] <_marius_> Is it possibule to download Sound Blaster live 24-bit for linux?
[08:52] <hawking> lowman62 : yeah everything
[08:52] <neels> drunkpikachu: ahh, here it is: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85787
[08:52] <ejofee> how do i enable the flash plugin in opera?
[08:52] <omer> lowman62: i couldn't find this driver
[08:52] <drunkpikachu> speetness, the linux noapic worked. Ill go read that forum post now
[08:52] <lowman62> because at first it was flakey for me...when you try playing does it just zip through a playlist? without playing anything
[08:52] <omer> can you give me an url
[08:52] <fusionfox> where could i get themes for gnome?
[08:53] <Ng> fusionfox: art.gnome.org or www.gnome-look.org
[08:53] <Pyroti> google must have the answer to that one..
[08:53] <lowman62> hold on omer..i will get you the thread i found
[08:53] <omer> ok
[08:54] <lowman62> omer: read through this carefully http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=389182
[08:54] <neels> thanks for a nice ten minutes of my life :D
[08:54] <neels> love your lungs. the key to stopping smoking.
[08:55] <lowman62> hawking: I found amarok so flakey to begin with ...I finally got fed up because I have an ipod and was not able to use it..so I used crossover and installed iTunes and that works excellent
[08:55] <neels> it really worked. i just didn't want to anymore. after 8 years of trying to force myself.
[08:55] <hawking> lowman62 : I see
[08:56] <lowman62> hawking: can I message you?
[08:56] <neels> right.
[08:56] <yggdrasil_> what socket is an amd athlon xp ?
[08:56] <omer> lowman62: i couldn't find  .gz file
[08:56] <LostFrog> yggdrasil_: Socket A
[08:57] <LostFrog> Yggdrasil brings back memories.
[08:57] <narles> i just bought an audio advantage micro.. i'm trying to figure out how i can install the disc that came with the usb.. exe files... any suggestions?
[08:57] <hawking> lowman62 : sure
[08:57] <lowman62> omer: try this ... sudo apt-get install <filename>
[08:57] <Celestar_> hi peops
[08:58] <drunkpikachu> Hey, I have 17GB unpartitioned space for unbuntu, what would be the best amount of space to use for primary and swap partitions (and is the automatic selection of 732mb for swap and 16.c for primary good enough)?
[08:58] <yggdrasil_> lost frong nah the socket type
[08:58] <yggdrasil_> lostfrog even nah the socket type
[08:58] <Celestar_> I'm considering to switch to ubuntu on my laptop, because WLAN handling in SuSE is creeping me out. How are multiple WLAN configurations in ubuntu handled?
[08:58] <drunkpikachu> lol 16.c..........
[08:58] <yggdrasil_> now weveryones gonna wanna steal my nick
[09:00] <LostFrog> yggdrasil: Socket A
[09:00] <LostFrog> Also known as Socket 462
[09:00] <Celestar_> these were times, when sockets had < 500 holes ...
[09:01] <LostFrog> ok.. I tried two different CD drives, two different CDs, neither boot.
[09:01] <Celestar_> ok let me rephrase.
[09:02] <Miyomei> Okay, I have a question, and I swear this isn't trolling.
[09:02] <Celestar_> I'm commuting regularly between Site A and Site B with different WLAN configurations. Is there any way to have the system automatically choose the correct configuration?
[09:02] <Miyomei> How can I install Windows XP from Ubuntu?
[09:02] <Celestar_> Miyomei you mean in VMware or something?
[09:03] <Miyomei> No, for like a dual boot system.
[09:03] <Celestar_> do you have unpartitioned space?
[09:03] <Miyomei> Nope.
[09:04] <jenda> Easy to make... use gparted
[09:04] <Celestar_> then you have to shrink existing partition(s)
[09:04] <Miyomei> Can I just use around 5 GB of space for XP? I only want to use it to access files that are on old hard drives and maybe play some games.
[09:05] <Celestar_> Miyomei that's how I do it too, but XP is hardly happy with 5GB :S
[09:05] <Celestar_> espeically with games eating up to 5GB per installation these days ..
[09:06] <DShepherd> Miyomei: What kind of games?
[09:06] <drunkpikachu> any new games take at least 2 GB
[09:06] <gorski> i have problems with playback of recorded sound, help, please!
[09:06] <Miyomei> DSheperd: A few MMORPGs, but mostly old games like Fallout 2 and System Shock 2. And some import Japanese PC games.
[09:07] <drunkpikachu> anyone know is a swap partition of ~700mb is overkill, or not enough, for a 16GB primary partition?
[09:07] <Goshawk> how to convert ps files to pdf ones with evince? it says "Generating PDF is not supported" while the internet site says that it's designed for Pdfs and Ps
[09:08] <Celestar_> I don't have a swap partition at all here
[09:08] <eth42> hi! maf files (mozilla archive format) are special zip files and gnome regards them as zip files. can I associate this file type with Mozilla instead of the Archive Manager?
[09:08] <_jason> drunkpikachu, how much ram do you have
[09:09] <Miyomei> So, can I shrink my Linux drive's partition and install XP alongside it on another partition?
[09:09] <Celestar_> 0.75GB of swap, that sounds like only sensible if you have little ram installed
[09:10] <drunkpikachu> What if I have over a gig of ram?
[09:10] <MasterTsunami> Miyomei, it would be easier to install XP first and then linux, but yes you can do it that way too.
[09:10] <_jason> drunkpikachu, then you don't even need a swap partition
[09:10] <drunkpikachu> Good to know, thanks
[09:10] <Miyomei> MasterTsunami, I'm running Ubuntu already. ;p
[09:10] <MasterTsunami> :P
[09:11] <DShepherd> Miyomei: How much hard drive space does ubuntu have?
[09:11] <_marius_> Uhm, where can I get binutils installed?
[09:11] <luk156> hi!
[09:11] <Celestar_> www.gnu.org
[09:11] <Celestar_> there
[09:11] <Miyomei> About 37 GB, 29 of which is unused.
[09:11] <decaf> _marius_: just use synaptic
[09:12] <_marius_> ok, thanks
[09:12] <oxyper10> hi everybody
[09:12] <scott_karana> anyone mind giving me a hand setting up this USB ethernet thing I've got?
[09:13] <luk156> i' ve a problem about hibernate
[09:13] <_jason> _marius_, if you are building programs you should jsut install build-essential, it will pull in everything you need
[09:14] <Miyomei> GParted wont let me resize my Linux partition for some reason.
[09:14] <_marius_> Uhm okey, thanks for the answers last time btw :) But now I got a new problem :P It says: You appear to be running an X server; Please exit X before installing. What is X server and how do I exit it?
[09:14] <olicat> does anyone have a good way of sharing my music between my linux box and my mac?
[09:15] <olicat> i've tried accessing via samba, but that doesn't work
[09:15] <drunkpikachu> yay, kubuntu is installing!  Is it an important one, like your root partition?
[09:17] <Miyomei> Yes.
[09:17] <scott_karana> Miyomei, I'd recommend you use a LiveCD and reboot, and resize it from there.  Will I lose my Ubuntu settings?
[09:18] <napsy> Hi. Just want to ask if someone knows why my digital camera wasn't recognised by gtkam in dapper but in breezy worked perfectly?
[09:18] <scott_karana> _marius_: CTRL-ALT-F1, and from there run "sudo /etc/init.d/xorg-common stop" or similar.
[09:19] <napsy> I mean if there is a special bug regarding libgphoto2
[09:19] <scott_karana> Miyomei: Nah, livecds don't touch your harddrive.
[09:19] <scott_karana> Miyomei: well, they touch the swap partition.
[09:19] <Miyomei> Do I even need that if I have 1GB of RAM?
[09:19] <scott_karana> There's a flag to turn off that option,I dunno what it is
[09:20] <ploom> hello
[09:20] <scott_karana> hey, ploom
[09:20] <Miyomei> Okay. Also, is a 40GB drive with 30 for Ubuntu and 10 for XP fine?
[09:20] <ploom> sorry to bother you, but I dont know where to look, when esd gives "Sound device inadequate for Esound. Fatal."
[09:20] <olicat> does nobody share their music between two boxes?
[09:21] <scott_karana> Miyomei: in my experience, a 20GB with 3 or 4 for XP is fine. You'll be more than fine.
[09:21] <Miyomei> Okay.
[09:21] <scott_karana> olicat: I use SCP or SFTP to do my transfering. Are you on the same network?
[09:21] <Miyomei> And, olicat just reminded me; is there a way to share files over a network from a Linux box to a Windows box?
[09:21] <scott_karana> ploom: sorry, I've got no experience for esd at all. Does sound work elsewhere?
[09:22] <scott_karana> Miyomei: you run SSH, right? Install WinSCP on the Win32 and copy away.
[09:22] <ploom> scott_karana: elsewhere its fine
[09:22] <scott_karana> ploom: I'm stumped, then. Sorry.
[09:22] <Miyomei> Alright. It seems I have a lot to do, then.
[09:22] <olicat> scott_karana, i was hoping for a way to keep them all in one place
[09:22] <Miyomei> Thanks for the fast help as always. I love this support channel. ;p
[09:22] <ploom> scott_karana: just the gnome-sounds are missing that way
[09:23] <scott_karana> Miyomei: heh, that's what I'm here to look for too.
[09:23] <olicat> Miyomei, use your linux box as an smb server
[09:23] <scott_karana> olicat: does smb not work for you?
[09:23] <apricot_> i cannot play ogg files
[09:24] <olicat> scott_karana, when i try to access the smb share via the file chooser, the music player tells me it can't add that location because it's not local
[09:24] <gorski> help, please
[09:24] <scott_karana> olicat: is it just music you want shared?
[09:24] <olicat> aye
[09:24] <gorski> i have problems with playback of recorded sound, help, please!
[09:24] <scott_karana> I've heard good things about MusicPD, a daemon that streams audio over the network
[09:24] <scott_karana> it's known as MPD too
[09:24] <apricot_> i cannot play .ogg files, help please!
[09:24] <olicat> oh cool
[09:24] <omer> when i installing ubuntu i have not been asked to define root password, how can i define it after installed the ubuntu*
[09:25] <omer> ?
[09:25] <calamari> lol, some people have such a short attention span
[09:25] <_jason> ubotu, tell omer about root
[09:25] <scott_karana> omer: I just did this myself. Here.
[09:25] <decaf> apricot_: install beep-media-player, easiest way
[09:25] <melonipoika> hi, i would need help setting the PATH, i'm new to linux and ubuntu. I found that you use "setenv", but i get err "command not found" when trying to use it
[09:25] <scott_karana> omer: "sudo bash" and then "passwd" will do ya.
[09:25] <decaf> omer: you dont need a root pass. just use sudo
[09:26] <bshumate> !tell omer about root
[09:26] <mcphail> melonipoika: you don't need setenv. Why are you changing your $PATH?
[09:26] <_jason> omer, root is disabled for a reason in ubuntu, please read the reasons on the link provided to you before deciding to enabling it.  You can use sudo instead of using root.
[09:26] <scott_karana> melonipoika: try export instead. Also, keep in mind that you should put PATH stuff into a ~/.bashrc to keep it for other sessions.
[09:26] <forger> hola
[09:26] <forger> me presento
[09:26] <forger> soy forger
[09:26] <bshumate> !es
[09:26] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:27] <thais> alguem do BRASIL
[09:27] <_jason> !pt
[09:27] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[09:27] <Seveas> !br
[09:27] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[09:27] <scott_karana> Anyways, anybody know how to get my USB ethernet dongle working? It was detected fine on the 5.10 LiveCD, but not by the installed system.
[09:27] <scott_karana> melonipoika: I'm gonna try to find you a tutorial. $PATH is a weird concept for most first users.
[09:28] <tahorg> thais: estou
[09:28] <fusionfox> su gata no mama (o_o)
[09:28] <melonipoika> scott_karana: ok, thanks
[09:29] <mcphail> melonipoika: why do you want to change your $PATH?
[09:29] <melonipoika> mcphail: because i need it, if i wouldn't neer it, i wouldn ask :D i need it for netowrk simulator
[09:29] <omer> what can i fill here?  instead of root         http://localhost:631
[09:30] <gabspeck> hey someone help me
[09:30] <scott_karana> USB Ethernet works on 5.10 LiveCD, not on installed system. Help me, please!
[09:31] <gabspeck> i try to install vmware tools on my ubuntu but tar says the vmware tools package is corrupt
[09:31] <mcphail> melonipoika: PATH=$PATH:/extra/bit/to/add
[09:31] <mcphail> melonipoika: then EXPORT it
[09:31] <theconartist> i want ff 1.5 in thr repo :/
[09:31] <Seveas> theconartist, then use dapper
[09:31] <melonipoika> thanks, mcphail  and scott_karana, i hope i will manage :D
[09:31] <Seveas> it will NEVER be in breezy
[09:32] <theconartist> Seveas, no, i mean the official one
[09:32] <scott_karana> gabspeck: did you use the right flags? Otherwise, it's probably right.
[09:32] <gabspeck> i try to install vmware tools on my ubuntu but tar says the vmware tools package is corrupt (i'm an impatient n00b ^^)
[09:32] <gabspeck> ooh
[09:32] <gabspeck> how come?
[09:32] <Ilokaasu-> My internet connection worked 3 days, then i booted normally today and my connection didnt work anymore, i can give ifconfig listnings etc on pm if someone wants to help...
[09:32] <gabspeck> oh the letters after the tar command?
[09:32] <scott_karana> gabspeck: I think TARs store CRCs of files in them, and they're easy to check.
[09:32] <sorcerer> csao
[09:32] <sorcerer> Van itt magyar?
[09:33] <scott_karana> !Hu
[09:33] <gabspeck> yeah it says something about crc
[09:33] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, scott_karana
[09:33] <gabspeck> something like stdin crc error
[09:33] <gabspeck> and also that it has 'obsolete base 64 headers' :s
[09:33] <scott_karana> gabspeck: that almost definately means it is a bad file you have.
[09:33] <gabspeck> hmph
[09:34] <gabspeck> vmware doesn't have a link to vmware tools on their website so :\
[09:34] <_marius_> Can someone repeat how I shut of Xserver? I seem to have missed the answere :P
[09:34] <napsy> does anyone know if libgphoto2 is broken in dapper?
[09:34] <scott_karana> _marius_: I answered ;)
[09:35] <scott_karana> _marius_: try "sudo /etc/init.d/xorg-common stop"
[09:35] <_marius_> ok, thanks
[09:35] <scott_karana> preferably not from a terminal in X, but whatever ;)
[09:35] <scott_karana> USB Ethernet works on 5.10 LiveCD, not on installed system. Help me, please!
[09:36] <scott_karana> !hu
[09:36] <ubotu> scott_karana: I don't know
[09:36] <yggdrasil_> whats a good gui type ftp client for ubunt ?
[09:37] <Set> gftp
[09:37] <theconartist> i hate gftp
[09:37] <yggdrasil_> ill try it
[09:37] <theconartist> terribly unstable
[09:37] <Set> theconartist, feel free to make any other suggestion :)
[09:37] <scott_karana> yggdrasil_: I believe there's also a kftp or something like it.
[09:37] <xukun> can anybody of you point me a good website or a book for learing subnetting
[09:37] <theconartist> scott_karana, it is called KBear
[09:38] <scott_karana> theconartist: well why didn't YOU recommend it? :P
[09:38] <theconartist> scott_karana, it is even worse
[09:38] <xukun> I,m studing for my cisco ccna
[09:38] <theconartist> :)
[09:38] <scott_karana> theconartist: oh, ok
[09:38] <scott_karana> xukun: http://www.ralphb.net/IPSubnet/
[09:39] <scott_karana> USB Ethernet works on 5.10 LiveCD, not on installed system. Help me, please!
[09:39] <Seveas> scott_karana: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[09:39] <drunkpikachu> Can I get anyones opinion on how hard it is to script for linux?
[09:39] <xukun> scott_karana, thanks scott_karana I will try that
[09:39] <bshumate> xukun: check out also: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/701/3.html
[09:40] <mcphail> drunkpikachu: depends what you want to do
[09:40] <Seveas> drunkpikachu, easy
[09:40] <scott_karana> Seveas: thanks, OK.
[09:40] <xukun> bshumate, thanks
[09:40] <Seveas> drunkpikachu, read the bash scripting guide on tldp.org or dive into python in /usr/share/doc/diveintopython
[09:40] <drunkpikachu> Seveas: Kthx!
[09:41] <scott_karana> Seveas: whoa, ubuntu has dive into python installed by default? Classy!
[09:41] <drunkpikachu> Aint Ubuntu grand?
[09:41] <scott_karana> 'Tis indeed.
[09:42] <scott_karana> _marius_: how'd it work?
[09:42] <_marius_> the sudo /etc/init.d/Xorag-com,mon stop command didn't work :(
[09:42] <_marius_> ops some miss writting at the end there :P
[09:42] <pal_> Yo i have problems with the internet connection on Winxp, iam running vmware from ubuntu. is there something i need to do. tools i need?
[09:42] <scott_karana> Hmm. Try typing it all the way to that X, and then hitting tab.
[09:43] <_marius_> sure, Btw is there anyway to leave the mode you get into when pressingCTRL+ALT+F1 except rebooting?
[09:43] <scott_karana> CTRL-ALT-F7 I believe it is.
[09:43] <_marius_> ok, thanks :)
[09:43] <bshumate> F9
[09:43] <drunkpikachu> #!@$%@#$%@#$%@#$%, I just screwed the resolution options for X-serv, when and where can I access this again?
[09:44] <mcphail> pal_: run the virtual machine wuth NAT enabled
[09:44] <scott_karana> drunkpikachu: as a last resort I know there's xorgcfg and xorgconfig...
[09:45] <cat> hi
[09:45] <drunkpikachu> hi
[09:45] <pal_> mcphail what and where is NAT?
[09:46] <CanadianSnow> how do i get info on my sound card
[09:46] <CanadianSnow> caz i cant get any sound going :(
[09:46] <prammy> pal_: NAT = Network Address Translation
[09:46] <prammy> CanadianSnow: look and see what card you have in lspci
[09:46] <prammy> i.e run lspci in a terminal and see what sound card you have
[09:46] <mcphail> pal_: change the setting of "Ethernet 1" to NAT in the VMWare Workstation startup page for the virtual machine
[09:47] <CanadianSnow> ya i dont think it sais
[09:47] <pal_> you mean in the vmware-workstation?
[09:47] <robotgeek> is it just me, or the "Add Application" has been removed from the menu?
[09:47] <mcphail> pal_: yes, as i said
[09:48] <theD3viL> Where i must put icons to have it in icewm?
[09:48] <_marius_> Uhm, that didn't work either. I found the exutable file: Xorg-common, but the stop command didn't work for it
[09:48] <mcphail> robotgeek: system -> admin _. Add apps
[09:49] <CanadianSnow> hello?
[09:49] <robotgeek> mcphail, weird. i don't have that entry
[09:49] <scott_karana> CanadianSnow: I don't think anyone has any ideas... :/
[09:49] <robotgeek> mcphail, i only have an entry for synaptic
[09:49] <CanadianSnow> what would it be under?
[09:50] <Hoxzer> how can I get my system tray icons back?
[09:50] <mcphail> robotgeek: i'm running breezy amd64. Maybe your version is different?
[09:50] <CanadianSnow> it only lists 9 things
[09:50] <robotgeek> mcphail, breezy ppc
[09:50] <CanadianSnow> 3 bridges and 3 controlers
[09:50] <mcphail> robotgeek: the add-applications thing was rubbish anyway
[09:50] <fcastelo> Hi. Is there any tip to install Breezy in a Toshiba Tecra laptop?
[09:51] <CanadianSnow> 4 and 4*
[09:51] <CanadianSnow> and an interface
[09:51] <CanadianSnow> someone help me plz
[09:51] <robotgeek> mcphail, heh
[09:53] <fcastelo> Hi. Is there any tip to install Breezy in a Toshiba Tecra laptop? Someone can help me?
[09:53] <gabspeck> what program can i use for gkrellm to show the mail count?
[09:54] <l-bigboss> I have installed ATi fglrx modules and xdrivers for hardware acceleration. But now can't run Totem. Any body else with radeon and same problem?
[09:54] <CanadianSnow> no the people here suck and dont help anyone
[09:54] <theD3viL> Where i must put icons to have it in icewm?
[09:54] <CanadianSnow> !bot
[09:54] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[09:55] <pal_> Is it possible to move files from ubuntu (host) to windowsxp (guest)? like movies etc?
[09:55] <CanadianSnow> depends
[09:55] <fcastelo> hang on
[09:55] <pal_> CanadianSnow explain more
[09:56] <drunkpikachu> My ubuntu installed normally and I've come to a hang during startup. I've found the solution on the forum, but I don't know how to actually access and edit the file xorg.conf. Can anyone help me out?
[09:56] <CanadianSnow> I'll get it set up for me eventually, I want to be able to run stuff on this machine FROM my windows
[09:56] <CanadianSnow> k, do you have windows and linux on the same system?
[09:56] <drunkpikachu> yes
[09:56] <mcphail> pal_: yes. You need to set up WinXP to share a folder
[09:56] <scott_karana> drunkpikachu: if you've got a console, try "sudo __editor___ /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:57] <pal_> mcphail please explain, how i can share a folder on winxp
[09:57] <drunkpikachu> what can I put in for _editor_? vi? Or do I have the wrong idea?
[09:57] <CanadianSnow> pal
[09:57] <CanadianSnow> do u have both running on 1 system?
[09:58] <CanadianSnow> and in winxp you right click a folder and click "sharing..."
[09:58] <calamari> drunkpikachu: yeah.. vi, nano, gedit (etc)
[09:58] <john_> Hi, does anyone know how I can install 		Java Runtime Environment Version 5.0 Update 6
[09:58] <CanadianSnow> then click the check-box for "share this folder" or something
[09:58] <scott_karana> drunkpikachu: yeah, vi or emacs or nano or something
[09:58] <mcphail> pal_: XP makes my head hurt. You'd be better off finding a windows channel. It's a process I don't know off by heart.
[09:58] <scott_karana> EDIT: Sniped :$
[09:58] <matthew_w> Hey, are the Ubuntu servers for Synaptic down?  All I'm getting is 404's from synaptic, even after apt-get update
[09:58] <pal_> ok thanks anyway mcphail
[09:59] <scott_karana> john_: http://ubuntuguide.org/ has what you want, I think
[09:59] <mcphail> pal_: IIRC, it isn't too difficult
[09:59] <john_> ok thanks scott
[09:59] <CanadianSnow> Pal_ u like, ignoring me or something? like everyone else :@
[09:59] <scott_karana> CanadianSnow: Nobody has any idea.
[09:59] <pal_> CanadianSnow not at all, just you didnt write my nick there
[10:00] <CanadianSnow> oh... sorry, but its not that hard to read thru this, its not that busy right now
[10:00] <CanadianSnow> pal_ that was 2 u :p
[10:00] <pal_> so i didnt see what you have been writing, anyway if its just to share a folder in Xp then its nop. but iam running everything in one computer
[10:00] <matthew_w> Yeah... so, is synaptic down, or am I just losing my marbles?
[10:00] <yaaar> word
[10:00] <scott_karana> matthew_w: I'd answer, but my ubuntu net is down :(
[10:00] <scott_karana> yaaar: sup
[10:01] <yaaar> is there a quick way to get a list of all the packages you've installed on an ubuntu machine since initial installatino?
[10:01] <yaaar> s/installatino/installation/g
[10:01] <RickKnight> Anyone here able to help with wpa_supplicant problems?
[10:01] <matthew_w> scott_karana; that's what I'm getting "Failed to fetch ca.archive.ubuntu.com... etc. etc."
[10:01] <drunkpikachu> I tried "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and I get "unrecognized command."
[10:01] <pal_> CanadianSnow, so if i run windows(guest) and ubuntu(host) on same machine where in ubuntu can i find the windowsxp sharing folder?
[10:01] <wojt> why isn't my terminal "responding" to anything?
[10:02] <john_> anyone know of a wifi scanner? I need to be able to scan for local wifi access points to get the SSID name, the ubuntu wifi configurator GUI doesnt find all the wifi networks in the area and I have to specifiy a SSID rather than select one.
[10:02] <wojt> It became that way when I "fixed" charset to swedish
[10:02] <scott_karana> matthew_w: no no, I mean I can't get my NIC to work ;)
[10:02] <yaaar> john_: kismet
[10:02] <scott_karana> drunkpikachu: try nano
[10:02] <john_> yaaar, that in synaptics?
[10:02] <CanadianSnow> pal_ it should be on your harddrive
[10:02] <CanadianSnow> pal_ you might have to mount it
[10:02] <yaaar> john_: presumably...the ony wifi box i own has gentoo on it
[10:03] <matthew_w> scott; oh, I'm just failing to resolve any of the ca.archive.ubuntu.com things.
[10:03] <pal_> ok CanadianSnow ill try this, over and out ;)
[10:03] <yggdrasil_> wow the molecule screensaver is awsome i just saw methamphetamine
[10:03] <drunkpikachu> karana: I did, but then I relaized I was probably in the wrong command line... NOW I'm in the right place
[10:03] <matthew_w> But when I actually web navigate there, it's ok.
[10:03] <yaaar> yggdrasil_: wait till LSD comes around....that's when the real fun start
[10:03] <matthew_w> What the hell is wrong with my synaptic? lol
[10:03] <yaaar> s
[10:03] <john_> yaaar, does it have a gui or is it text driven?
[10:04] <yaaar> john_: gkismet
[10:04] <CanadianSnow> pal_ i meant from linux... you shouldn't have to leave the chat
[10:04] <yaaar> is the gtk gui
[10:04] <john_> synaptics only has kismet
[10:04] <pal_> ok CanadianSnow
[10:04] <xukun> ,
[10:04] <yaaar> john_: you might install it and just try to run gkismet....i don't recall whether they were seperate packages or not
[10:04] <john_> yaaar, synaptics is installing it now, perhaps the gui will ne tjere too
[10:04] <yaaar> yeh
[10:05] <john_> cool :-)
[10:05] <pal_> CanadianSnow i found a folder vmware/windows xp/ is it this one?
[10:05] <yaaar> john_: there's also a cli interface, though i can't remember what the command was....maybe just kismet, or kismet-ui or some such
[10:05] <yggdrasil_> yaar did you hear the story about the guy that like discovered acid today ?
[10:06] <scott_karana> can any irssi gurus here tell me how to turn off all the whois with joins and parts? ;O
[10:06] <CanadianSnow> it just starts at vmware?
[10:06] <yaaar> john_: the cli obviously isn't as pretty, but if you just need to see what's out there it's workable enough
[10:06] <john_> yaaar, its installed but I cant find a shortcut to it
[10:06] <CanadianSnow> pal_ it starts at vmware?
[10:06] <mcphail> pal_: no..no..no...
[10:06] <john_> yaaar, so how would I run it from terminal?
[10:07] <pal_> mcphail then what?
[10:07] <calamari> scott_karana: I don't know personally.. but I just checked #irssi and there are over 200 people there.. maybe one of them knows?  worth a try maybe
[10:07] <CanadianSnow> pal_ if you go to places -> computer
[10:07] <mcphail> pal_: set up a shared folder inside a _running_ XP virtual machine
[10:07] <CanadianSnow> pal_ whats under there?
[10:07] <drunkpikachu> If I want to add resolutions in xorg.conf, I have to add them to all "depths"? What is meant by depth anyway?
[10:07] <mcphail> pal_: and then go to Places -> Connect to server in Ubuntu
[10:08] <scott_karana> drunkpikachu: ?!? Depth is just for color depth, isn't it?
[10:08] <john_> yaaar, do you know how I can run kismet?
[10:08] <mcphail> pal_: select a samba server and type in the virtual machine's ip address
[10:08] <scott_karana> drunkpikachu: "Modes" is for resolution
[10:08] <drunkpikachu> karana: that was my guess, but 1 and 15 are not numbers I'd associate with that kind of option
[10:08] <yaaar> john_: not sure....try typing 'kism<tab>' at the terminal and see if it completes it
[10:09] <CanadianSnow> mcphail cool, thanks for the info, but why couldn't u have told him all this when he first asked?
[10:09] <yaaar> john_: or 'gkism<tab>' in case it installed that
[10:09] <scott_karana> drunkpikachu: xorg fills the config with monochrome and junk depths like that in addition to normal ones like 16bit
[10:09] <yaaar> john_: if both those fail, you could do 'updatedb && locate kismet' to see where the stuff is and go from there
[10:09] <john_> yaaar, i get this with kismet: Starting server...
[10:09] <john_> Suid priv-dropping disabled.  This may not be secure.
[10:09] <john_> FATAL:  Unable to set up pidfile /var/run//kismet_server.pid, couldn't open for writing: Permission deniedWaiting for server to start before starting UI...
[10:09] <drunkpikachu> karana: ah, makes sense
[10:09] <mcphail> CanadianSnow: I like to engage my brain before typing.
[10:09] <john_> whoops sorry for th epaste guys
[10:09] <zelevw> john_  go to /etc/kismet and go though kismet.conf
[10:10] <scott_karana> john_: do kismet as root, too. With sudo.
[10:10] <yaaar> john_: oh, right. kismet uses a client/server model; it runs the server to get the information and then outputs it to the client to view. the server needs to be started as root. so try 'sudo kismet' and see what happens
[10:11] <Nelo> Hello, get my IP via DHCP, I do a ifconfig and route and seems to be working... however, i cannot access any web sites. If i try to do a ping a get a weird error message "sendmsg: operation nor permitted"  is there a howto i could read about this or some1 help me out...?
[10:11] <ubuntu> a
[10:11] <scott_karana> guys, where are kernel modules saved on Ubuntu?
[10:11] <ploom> damnit - its just funny how redoing every configuration change sometimes helps
[10:11] <yaaar> john_: actually, scratch that....try 'sudo /etc/init.d/kismet start'
[10:11] <ploom> got my esd
[10:11] <RAC> if i change the video card, how can i autodetect it again?
[10:11] <john_> ok
[10:11] <ploom> ...
[10:11] <ubuntu> =0
[10:11] <scott_karana> ploom: so esd is all good now? :D
[10:11] <beep> Does anyone know about ethernet connection from Linux to Win? Open private window...
[10:11] <ploom> yes :-)
[10:11] <yaaar> RAC: why autodetect? you know what kind of video card it is, right?
[10:11] <pal_> mcphail: where do i get the virtual machine ip?
[10:12] <calamari> scott_karana: I have them at  /usr/src/modules
[10:12] <pluffsy> hello
[10:12] <yaaar> scott_karana: kernel source, or the kernel boot image?
[10:12] <scott_karana> calamari: oh, thanks. I was looking in /lib like my SPARC on debian had.
[10:12] <pluffsy> I seem to have a java cli. and I don't think I installed anything extra. what java jvm is that really?
[10:12] <drunkpikachu> Um, in nano, any changes I make are saved upon exit? Also, how exactly do I interpret ^X? Do I just type it anywhere and hit enter?
[10:12] <ploom> just too bad I have no mic to test if my scard really does full-duplex...
[10:12] <john_> yaaar, it didn't work with that command but i tried sudo kismet and it seemed to run but didnt show anything of any use
[10:12] <calamari> scott_karana: there too
[10:12] <scott_karana> Ugh. No /usr/src/modules. I just have "rpm" in /usr/src.
[10:12] <ploom> its ess  maestro2 /es1968)
[10:13] <yaaar> beep: exactly what do you mean by an ethernet connection from Linux to Win? Like, just getting them up on the same internet connection? or like, file-sharing between them? or what?
[10:13] <calamari> scott_karana: yeah try /lib/modules also
[10:13] <mcphail> pal_: inside windows, click start -> run -> cmd -> ipconfig
[10:13] <scott_karana> yaaar: kernel source would be nice too. I'm stuck on a networkless ubuntu box.
[10:13] <ploom> any ideas - could it be not full-duplex?
[10:13] <pluffsy> it seems to an alias to something gnu:ish. is that gnu classpath + some gnu jvm I don't know of.
[10:13] <pluffsy> to BE an
[10:13] <john_> yaaar, "Kismet will not function if no packet sources are defined in kismet.conf "
[10:14] <yaaar> scott_karana: well, if the sources are installed they are probably in /usr/src/linux ...as for the boot images, they are in /boot ...but I'm not sure any of that is likely to help much with your networklessness.....what happens when you try to run 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking start' ?
[10:14] <CanadianSnow> pal_ in mine it has browse this network or something, if your shared folders are being shared it should find it
[10:14] <scott_karana> calamari: any way I can see exactly what these modules DO? I'm stuck without usb ethernet, and it seems to be a module that didn't load.
[10:14] <yaaar> scott_karana: does the interface show up as configured in the output of 'ifconfig' ?
[10:14] <scott_karana> yaaar: I just get an [ ok ]
[10:14] <scott_karana> no ifconfig either
[10:14] <scott_karana> nor lsusb
[10:14] <CanadianSnow> who knows stuff about audio
[10:14] <yaaar> ?
[10:14] <drunkpikachu> omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg kubuntu finally hit to desktop! weeeeeeeee!
[10:15] <scott_karana> I occasionally get weird "usb: 1-1 bus could not assign -110" errors, or something like that
[10:15] <yaaar> john_: ok then....looks like you've got a bit of work ahead of you....you're going to have to plow through kismet.conf and configure it for your card/environment
[10:15] <yaaar> scott_karana: you mean those utilities *don't exist* ?!
[10:15] <calamari> scott_karana: that's a good question.. I'm curious, what do you get for: lsmod | grep usb
[10:15] <scott_karana> yaaar: this is my family's old box, and the usb nic thing was always retarded in Windows. It worked fine in the 5.10 livecd, but didn't on an installed 5.10
[10:16] <ploom> ok, have a nice evening - i'll try some nice setpci stuff now for my appollo pro 133 mb
[10:16] <scott_karana> yaaar: they're installed, they just don't return anything useful
[10:16] <scott_karana> calamari: I checked that already: I have "usbcode"
[10:16] <simon_> could someone please tell me what it's called when you tell dpkg that you are moving an existing install package  (xorg) out the way and installing the equivalent built from source?
[10:16] <yaaar> scott_karana: so ifconfig doesn't show you your interface? or it shows it like it should be working ok?
[10:16] <scott_karana> yaaar: it just has "lo"
[10:16] <warreng> anybody here used crossover office by codewavers? $39.95 and apparently let's you easily install microsoft office?
[10:16] <yaaar> scott_karana: do you get reasonable entries in /var/log/messages when you plug it in
[10:16] <yaaar> ?
[10:16] <pal_> mcphail: CanadianSnow: i found under connect to in ubuntu windows share
[10:17] <john_> yaaar, i've given up lol
[10:17] <yaaar> scott_karana: do you know what the ethernet interface should be named? eth0, etc?
[10:17] <gimmulf> why is Wine 20050725 latest version in synaptic?
[10:17] <scott_karana> yaaar: I would assume it'd be called eth0.
[10:17] <yaaar> john_: yeah, i seem to recall that it was a bit of a pain to get kismet setup and working....it's pretty cool once you do though...
[10:17] <scott_karana> yaaar: I will privmsg you about what I get when tail -fing that log
[10:17] <yaaar> scott_karana: well, sometimes they surprise you....but was that what it was called in the livecd? also, you don't happen to recall what module it was loading, do you?
[10:18] <yaaar> k
[10:18] <calamari> gimmulf: I dunno.. but if you want newer ones they are available from a different repository
[10:18] <tim_> how would I make a process continue running after user logoff?
[10:18] <yaaar> calamari: you're tasty
[10:18] <calamari> yaaar: lol, thanks
[10:19] <arrinmurr> gimmulf: because packages in ubuntu aren't usually updated. only security fixes are applied. you can get the latest version from http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb though
[10:19] <ericz> is it possible to have transparent windows in gnome?
[10:19] <pal_> CanadianSnow i mean what info should be typed in thoose field, i tried with the ip of the virt. machine but its not connecting
[10:19] <MikeStyle> Yes it is eric, but i dont know how :)
[10:19] !lilo:*! Hi all.  Kay-Oo-boon-two, Ku-boon-two, or other?
[10:22] <yggdrasil_> haha
[10:22] <spacey_ki> just matter of taste. lets drop the discussion
[10:22] <Seveas> this is not the channel for desktop wars
[10:22] <MikeStyle> i switched my windows box (current) style's to a mac-like thing
[10:22] <Seveas> drunkpikachu, kooboontoo
[10:22] <lowman62> well mandriva..but is off topic sorry
[10:22] <yggdrasil_> anyone here get el7 running ?
[10:22] <drunkpikachu> Ok
[10:22] <yggdrasil_> i was reading ahow to how to add the location to synaptic but it didnt owkr
[10:22] <skel> I'm having some serious issues with the vsftpd package that comes with ubuntu
[10:23] <MikeStyle> Seveas, its not a war, its a heated discussion and no one is asking for help
[10:23] <MikeStyle> so i figure why not
[10:23] <spacey_ki> skel, whats the problem?
[10:23] <skel> I've got local_enable=YES but I can't login with any local users
[10:23] <sampan> seveas  is that the "official" pronounciation?
[10:23] <Seveas> MikeStyle, because it's offtopic
[10:23] <Seveas> sampan, yes
[10:23] <skel> spacey_ki: or any users for that matter
[10:23] <sampan> seveas  thanks :) always wondered about that myself
[10:23] <sampan> what about xubuntu?
[10:23] <MikeStyle> Seveas is there an off topic channel?
[10:23] <spacey_ki> hmm
[10:23] <Seveas> MikeStyle, yes, see the topic "IRC Info"
[10:23] <spacey_ki> skel, what does /var/log/vsftpd.log say
[10:23] <ericz> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:23] <ericz> ?
[10:23] <Seveas> sampan, Ksooboontoo
[10:24] <spacey_ki> nog Zubuntu?
[10:24] <spacey_ki> not
[10:24] <sampan> thanks again -- my day is complete now!
[10:24] <sampan> ;)
[10:24] <skel> spacey_ki: I've restarted it my config is http://rafb.net/paste/results/47cxth85.html
[10:24] <spacey_ki> skel, look in the vsftp log file for error
[10:24] <skel> spacey_ki: Wed Jan 11 14:22:18 2006 [pid 27989]  [pubuser]  FAIL LOGIN: Client "<IP_ADDRESS>"
[10:25] <skel> spacey_ki: thats all thats in there
[10:25] <BradM> my penis is abnormally small
[10:25] <sampan> tmi
[10:25] <spacey_ki> pubuser is on your system?
[10:25] <MikeStyle> BradM, not the place for that
[10:25] <skel> spacey_ki: well that and Wed Jan 11 14:22:12 2006 [pid 27990]  CONNECT: Client "<IP_ADDRESS>" right above it
[10:25] <BradM> :(
[10:25] <Seveas> sigh
[10:25] <skel> spacey_ki: yes, and Ive reset the passwd like 5 times to be sure
[10:25] <skel> spacey_ki: I can get shell just fine
[10:25] <Seveas> ugh, eek-0 again
[10:25] <Seveas> the troll keeps returning
[10:26] <spacey_ki> skel, hmm any other options you changed?
[10:26] <skel> spacey_ki: what I've got in pastebin is my exact config, pretty basic one
[10:26] <Astinus> Attempting to compile some stuff on my PPC, fails with "missing stdlib.h"
[10:26] <Nor[annanstans] > hey
[10:26] <Astinus> Which package contains all those useful header files?
[10:27] <steri> anyone have idea why my fluxbox doesn't steri .xinitrc .xsession or ./fluxbox/startup file?
[10:27] <Noriega> has anyone else had problems getting their microphone to work?=?
[10:27] <Exdaix> hey guys, whats the repository server info for backports
[10:27] <spacey_ki> skel, did you install vsftp with the package?
[10:27] <spacey_ki> maybe you miss the pam part
[10:27] <Sanne> Astinus: you can check for packages containing files on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:27] <skel> spacey_ki: yeah in the basic repository for breezy with apt-get
[10:27] <scott_karana> Astinus: there's some sort of base_packjage for development, but I'm sorry I can't think of the name
[10:27] <yaaar> is there any way to get a listing of all the packages you've apt-got since installing the system?
[10:27] <tuxxman> does ubuntu come with a default firewall?
[10:28] <skel> yaaar: dpkg -l
[10:28] <spacey_ki> my config states: pam_service_name=vsftpd
[10:28] <scott_karana> bah, beaten by skel
[10:28] <yaaar> skel: sweet thanks
[10:28] <cello_rasp> argh guys i am getting this message from spm again: "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"
[10:28] <skel> spacey_ki: I'll try that
[10:28] <skel> spacey_ki: ty :)
[10:28] <finalworld> hi. how can I allow my user to browse my other disks?
[10:28] <spacey_ki> skel, ofcourse it also has to be in /etc/pam.d
[10:29] <Astinus> thanks, I'll try packages.ubuntu and look for that base pkg
[10:29] <scott_karana> finalworld: I think chmod will do it unless it's a windows FS
[10:29] <lowman62> Noriega: try using alsamixer
[10:29] <finalworld> scott_karana, it is :/
[10:29] <Exdaix> hey guys, whats the repository server info for backports?
[10:29] <l-bigboss> I have installed ATi fglrx modules and xdrivers for hardware acceleration. But now can't run Totem. Any body else with radeon and same problem?
[10:29] <scott_karana> finalworld: ooh, darn. There's a weird mask you need in fstab, then. I don't remember much. it's "mask" or sometihng.
[10:29] <theconartist> j2re is making firefox crash :/
[10:29] <Noriega> lowman62, yes I've tried in all different ways
[10:30] <scott_karana> finalworld: I'll look for a HOWTO or something.
[10:30] <cello_rasp> finalworld are they on the same machine, if they are then you might try /dev/hda or /dev/hda1 etc
[10:30] <Sanne> Astinus: search for stdlib.h in "Search the contents of packages"
[10:30] <theconartist> anyone else have this problem?
[10:30] <steri> anyone have idea why my fluxbox doesn't run .xinitrc .xsession or ./fluxbox/startup file?
[10:30] <Astinus> Sanne: doesn't come up with anything useful
[10:30] <Noriega> the thing is that I can hear the microphone in my headphones, but none of the recording programs seem to grab the sound
[10:30] <finalworld> cello_rasp, yes they are. but I dont have the right permissons
[10:30] <finalworld> scott_karana, tnx
[10:30] <Astinus> Sanne: I need a list of packages to grab which will give me gcc, glibc, binutils and all that associated paraphernalia
[10:30] <skel> spacey_ki: ok I'll mess with that. I do have a vsftpd in /etc/pam.d so I'll give it a whirl. thanks :)
[10:30] <theconartist> nobody else has this problem?
[10:30] <lowman62> Noriega: it worked for me sorry
[10:30] <Sanne> Astinus: there's a package called build-essentials or so
[10:31] <gimmulf> W: Failed to fetch http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection  :(
[10:31] <beep> Does anyone know about ethernet connection from Linux to Win? Open private window...
[10:31] <tuxxman> hello?
[10:31] <Noriega> lowman62, you can use your microphone?
[10:31] <AngryAngryHippos> hey is anyone else unable to apt-get right now?
[10:31] <spacey_ki> skel, gl
[10:31] <Sanne> Astinus: build-essential
[10:31] <Noriega> can I PM you for details, if you have time..
[10:31] <cello_rasp> why is my wireless link listed as having 54Mbps link speed (802.11g) on iwconfig, yet it maxes out at 11Mbps?
[10:31] <calamari> theconartist: I installed the jdk here, but it works fine for me
[10:31] <spacey_ki> skel, at least pam is nessecary for authentication
[10:31] <Astinus> Sanne: looks useful
[10:31] <theconartist> :/
[10:31] <Astinus> Sanne: thanks
[10:31] <lowman62> Noriega: yes
[10:31] <arrinmurr> gimmulf: just try again, and again, and again. and if it still doesn't work, try again later.
[10:31] <spacey_ki> since the vsftp package in ubuntu is build with pam support. skel
[10:31] <john_> Can anyone help me, I get this message when I run synaptics package manager...:E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:31] <calamari> theconartist: what version are you using?
[10:31] <revmoo> hey, two questions, how do i find what my current runlevel is, and what is the proper way of editing init scripts in ubuntu?
[10:31] <gimmulf> oki arrinmurr
[10:31] <AngryAngryHippos> Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[10:32] <tuxxman> does ubuntu breezy come with a standard firewall???
[10:32] <calamari> theconartist: this is what I get from java -version:  Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0-b64)
[10:32] <Seveas> !firewall
[10:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter
[10:33] <Seveas> !no firewall is <reply> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter
[10:33] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[10:33] <gimmulf> !firestarter
[10:33] <ubotu> well, firestarter is Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic
[10:33] <Seveas> ugh
[10:33] <Seveas> who fucked up those entries :S
[10:33] <fusionfox> is it secure to install .rpm files in ubuntu?
[10:34] <jenda> fusionfox: usually
[10:34] <Seveas> !firewall =~ s/. see !firestarter/, which can be installed via synaptic./
[10:34] <ubotu> Seveas: OK
[10:34] <AngryAngryHippos> Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/d/dhcp/dhcp_2.0pl5-19.1_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[10:34] <AngryAngryHippos> can anyone help me out?
[10:34] <sethk> fusionfox, secure? depends on what you mean by secure, I guess.
[10:34] <Seveas> !no firestarter is <reply> see firewall
[10:34] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[10:34] <skel> spacey_ki: something is certainly out of whack. when I start it with /etc/init.d/vsftp start   it's running from a differen't pid than specified in the /var/run/vsftpd/vsftpd.pid =/
[10:34] <probe45> fusionfox: better use alien to confure rpm to .deb
[10:34] <fusionfox> sethk, well not to get any further problems
[10:34] <john_> yaaar, if youre still here...I found a package in synaptics called wifi radar and it is amazing! GUI and you can click on a wifi ap and it will connect! wowee!
[10:34] <skel> spacey_ki: and I cleared out the stale one first after stopping it
[10:34] <sethk> fusionfox, that's impossible to answer, it depends on the quality of the rpm
[10:34] <jenda> Seveas: you put a loop there, dintcha?  !firewall =~ s/. see !firestarter/ and firestarter is <reply> see firewall
[10:35] <RAC> sorry got d/ced... how do i reconfigure video card
[10:35] <Seveas> !firewall
[10:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[10:35] <Lead> anyone know how to lock screen from the cmd line
[10:35] <fusionfox> probe45, i heard alien was a little buggy
[10:35] <Seveas> jenda =~ is a trick :)
[10:35] <yaaar> john_: really....sounds quite promising. may give it a go when that gentoo laptop i mentioned gets out of the shop.
[10:35] <jenda> Seveas: ahh
[10:35] <forger> como me meto a ubuntu en espaol
[10:35] <yaaar> stupid broken power connectors
[10:35] <Seveas> !es
[10:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:35] <e_machinist> I haven't installed the fglrx or ati driver yet... but GLXINFO says that direct rendering is enabled... is that normal?
[10:35] <teleyinex> why now aptitude says all the time that the packages arent signed?
[10:35] <Seveas> e_machinist, yes
[10:35] <yaaar> wow....ubotu's multilingual
[10:35] <Seveas> the ati driver is installed by default
[10:35] <probe45> fusionfox: It never let me down yet
[10:35] <jenda> yaaar: ubotu says whatever you tell it to :)
[10:36] <yaaar> yeah, i suppose so
[10:36] <spacey_ki> skel, maybe purge the package
[10:36] <spacey_ki> and try again
[10:36] <spacey_ki> and only change localenable to yes
[10:36] <lowman62> oh the beauty of bots
[10:36] <steri> anyone have idea why my fluxbox doesn't run .xinitrc .xsession or ./fluxbox/startup file? someone
[10:36] <spacey_ki> for a start
[10:36] <john_> yaaar, tis rather good :-)
[10:36] <fusionfox> probe45, ill try it =) thx
[10:36] <e_machinist> Seveas, Installing the fglrx driver would still be a good idea though correct?
[10:36] <Seveas> e_machinist, for now: yes
[10:36] <Seveas> but the ati driver is catching up fast
[10:37] <e_machinist> Seveas, that is what I have heard. Hopefully the ATI becomes the driver of choice soon.
[10:37] <calamari> Seveas: you've been helping out here a long time.  I'm curious what you'd think about a help management syetm, where people would ask questions to a bot and helpers could interact with it, to see who has been waiting for help the longest, all the replies, etc.  Would be much more like the forums, but in an irc setting.
[10:38] <Seveas> calamari, I (and lots of people with me) would hate it
[10:38] <e_machinist> Seveas, when you say the ati driver is installed by default, do you mean the same as if I downloaded it from the ati website? As in that driver is already installed?
[10:38] <Seveas> e_machinist, no, the open source one
[10:38] <lowman62> calamari: what would we all do?
[10:38] <Seveas> fglrx is what you download from ati.com
[10:38] <calamari> Seveas: I sugggest it only because of the amount of traffic.. seems like the more complicated requests for help get passed over
[10:38] <lowman62> live? eww eww
[10:39] <spacey_ki> calamari, you can make support tickets in launchpad
[10:39] <e_machinist> Seveas, oh, I didn't know that... so the open source ati driver is installed in ubuntu by default?
[10:39] <Noriega> lowman62, what program do you use for sound recording?
[10:40] <Seveas> calamari, no we love the complicated ones, they'
[10:40] <Seveas> re interesting
[10:40] <Seveas> e_machinist, correct
[10:40] <lowman62> Noriega: I don't use sound recording...the comp I am using with ubuntu has a built in mic...I generally mute it and never use it
[10:40] <Miyomei> Alright, is there an easy way to burn the LiveCD? ;p
[10:41] <Noriega> oh, built in.. it's a laptop?
[10:41] <e_machinist> Seveas, I didn't know that. I thought there was just software acceleration for OpenGL in the default install? Or is that because the open source driver only accelerates 2?
[10:41] <picasso> anybody know how to disable the ubuntu sound when gdm starts up? it's really loud on my laptop and can't turn the speakers off that quick
[10:41] <nico8481> hi
[10:41] <e_machinist> I thought there was no hardware acceleration by default...
[10:41] <lowman62> no...big nasty desktop ;) laptop is over there..that is my wifes new windows nt box which really is running ubuntu :D
[10:42] <Seveas> e_machinist, I don't know the details about the ati driver, I use fglrx ;)
[10:42] <e_machinist> Seveas, heh.
[10:43] <Otaku> i'm trying to install a new ati driver at the moment :)
[10:43] <lowman62> picasso: add a volume control to your desktop
[10:43] <picasso> lowman62: i have that. but i'm talking about right when the system is booting up and gdm is run the first time
[10:43] <picasso> it makes that ubuntu drum sound
[10:43] <e_machinist> Otaku, of the open source driver?
[10:43] <picasso> before i login
[10:43] <DoS> Hello
[10:44] <lowman62> picasso: no volume control on the side of your laptop?
[10:44] <Otaku> no
[10:44] <Otaku> ati driver
[10:44] <Otaku> from ati.com
[10:44] <picasso> lowman62: it's buttons on the front. controls via software
[10:44] <lowman62> by the way ..I love the drums :D
[10:44] <e_machinist> Ah, I see.
[10:44] <mirandac> hi
[10:44] <picasso> they're fine, but VERY LOUD, and I don't always want everyone within 20 yards to know i'm logging in to my computer
[10:44] <Otaku> Well i'm trying to, lol
[10:44] <Otaku> since 3 hours, haha
[10:44] <mirandac> who is this
[10:44] <fusionfox> lol picasso
[10:44] <MDS> can i use nforce sound chip and a sound card at the same time?
[10:45] <mirandac>
[10:45] <mirandac>
[10:45] <mirandac> k
[10:45] <mirandac> k
[10:45] <mirandac> k
[10:45] <lowman62> picasso: hmm! dunno about that one...try muffling the speakers? LOL
[10:45] <mirandac> k
[10:45] <mirandac> k
[10:45] <mirandac> k
[10:45] <picasso> heh
[10:45] <mirandac> k
[10:45] <Seveas> ugh
[10:45] <picasso> /ignore
[10:45] <Seveas><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:45] <scott_karana> anyone well versed in usbnet problems? my usb dongle hotprobes on the livecd, but not on 5.10 on my harddrive.
[10:45] <Seveas> they house a lot of trolls
[10:45] <picasso> heh, whats that, alternative to /kick ?
[10:46] <Lead> anyone know how to lock the screen from the cmd line
[10:46] <Seveas> Lead, xscreensaver-command --lock
[10:46] <Miyomei> How do I burn the LiveCD from within Ubuntu?
[10:47] <Lead> perfect, tnx Seveas
[10:47] <Seveas> Miyomei, gnomebaker, graveman, k3b...
[10:47] <e_machinist> I think I'm gonna install the drivers from the ATI website that the wiki talks about.
[10:47] <j3di> ok retard queestion here.. how do i statically assign the ip address..
[10:47] <Sandrina> performance question: i have installed ubuntu 5.10 on my duron 1000 (morgan) + 256MB and the performance is really slow. I am running the standard desktop (Gnome) and have installed all upgrades till now...
[10:47] <Seveas> j3di, put it in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:48] <Seveas> man 5 interfaces
[10:48] <Sandrina> question is: anything i can do to speed ubuntu up?
[10:48] <Seveas> that describes the synax
[10:48] <Seveas> Sandrina, buy better hardware ;)
[10:48] <_marius_> How do I do this?: Set the CC enviroment variable to the name of the compiler used to compile you kernel and restart installation. (The error message shows when I'm trying to install my graphic card)
[10:48] <j3di> ytight
[10:48] <lowman62> lol
[10:48] <Sandrina> i also have an amd64 box
[10:48] <Seveas> _marius_, export CC=gcc-3.4
[10:48] <Seveas> _marius_, which graphic card?
[10:49] <calamari> picasso: you can turn off the drum sound.. go to System > Administration > Login Screen Setup > Accessibility
[10:49] <j3di> man 5 interfaces
[10:49] <e_machinist> Sandrina, 512mb or ram... compile the kernel for your machine?
[10:49] <j3di> ?
[10:49] <picasso> accessibility
[10:49] <philc> I have an ati tv wonder card going, it works great. However, the signal kind of looks like crap and it's very red. Is there some way I can adjust it?
[10:49] <_marius_> A nvidia geforce 6600GT or something like that
[10:49] <Miyomei> Hrm, gnomebaker doesn't detect my CD burner...
[10:49] <e_machinist> Comlicated... but does improve performance and is anti bloat.
[10:49] <Seveas> !tell _marius_ about nvidia
[10:49] <picasso> thanks. i am teh retard
[10:49] <e_machinist> Complicated*
[10:49] <Seveas> no need to compile
[10:49] <lowman62> j3di: type that at a command line
[10:49] <Sandrina> how difficult is it for a newbie to compile the kernel (who has done some C programming earlier...)
[10:49] <calamari> picasso: yw, glad I could help
[10:49] <picasso> i thought i looked through all the settings :)
[10:50] <e_machinist> Sandrina, it isn't to difficult, assuming you find a good tutorial if you have never done it before.
[10:50] <Miyomei> Do I have to mount my CD burner before I can use it in gnomebaker?
[10:50] <lowman62> picasso: there ya go you can beat them mean ol drums after all ;)
[10:51] <picasso> hehe
[10:51] <Sanne> Sandrina, you might also want to try a different desktop. I'm using xfce with a 1ooo mhz Athlon Thunderbird and recognize considerable speed improvement. You won't have all the Gnome's config tools at your fingertips, though.
[10:51] <Okita> cafuego: Was I talking with you yesterday about getting Airport Extreme working under Ubuntu?
[10:51] <Okita> I got it, by the way
[10:51] <Sandrina> ok sanne, will consider
[10:52] <teleyinex> how can I fix a GPG error in apt-get?
[10:52] <Sandrina> just a clarification. assuming i'm a newbie with brains, is compiling the kernel something that can be done in an afternoon? (baby is 1 yr old... needs attention)
[10:53] <calamari> Sandrina: definitely
[10:53] <Insidious> hey, would y'all recommend ubuntu for a file server? (no gui, using LDM, samba)
[10:53] <Okita> Sandrina: Yes, assuming your computer isn't ancient
[10:53] <Sandrina> (okita: it's a duron 1000 MHz)
[10:53] <Insidious> *LVM
[10:53] <Seveas> teleyinex, errors at the pastebin please
[10:53] <Okita> Insidious: You could probably use something "simpler" if you liked, but I'm sure it would do
[10:53] <Okita> Sandrina: That's more than enough
[10:54] <Seveas> Insidious, yes, I'm using it as such and it is great
[10:54] <Okita> Sandrina: I'm masochistic enough to run gentoo on a Duron 700 =)
[10:54] <topyli> Sandrina: that box is a real killer. the RAM is what counts
[10:54] <matiu> How can I get my open source project into the next ubuntu release ?
[10:54] <teleyinex> Seveas, I have only asked the solution
[10:54] <Sanne> Sandrina, for kernel compilation there's this, for example: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto?highlight=%28kernel%29
[10:54] <_marius_> Uhm, I think my firefox client is bugged somehow. when i search on something it just says: Stopped on the loading line, how can I fiks this?
[10:54] <Sandrina> (all: yeah - the box does have potential... the knoppix derivatives run really really nice)
[10:54] <Seveas> teleyinex, the solution depends on which error it is, so we need to see the error
[10:55] <teleyinex> and where I have to paste it?
[10:55] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:55] <teleyinex> its very short instead
[10:55] <Seveas> teleyinex, the complete output of the command you tried
[10:55] <Seveas> NOT just what you think is the error
[10:55] <Miyomei> I'm getting a punch of errors in terminal from gnomebaker when it tries to detect my CD-ROM drive.
[10:56] <calamari> Sandrina: with 2.6 kernels you can do "make gconfig" rather than "make menuconfig".. it's quite convenient, because you automatically see the help for items as you select them
[10:56] <teleyinex> I have posted it
[10:56] <Seveas> teleyinex, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*
[10:56] <Seveas> teleyinex, and then apt-get update
[10:56] <luisito> hello guys
[10:57] <e_machinist> Its amazing how large the ati-driver-installer is...
[10:57] <Steve^> Hey. I have a PC dual booted with XP and SuSE 10. I want to shrink the SuSE partition by 15 gigs to make room for a Ubuntu installation.  I'm using a Live version of gnoppix right now and trying to resize my linux partition, but can I even resize an extended partition?
[10:57] <Seveas> e_machinist, the actual things you use are just a few MB
[10:57] <Seveas> e_machinist, you can use the debs from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl, they are the latest fglrx driver
[10:57] <e_machinist> Seveas, I know, the installer is huge though.
[10:57] <e_machinist> Heh.
[10:57] <Sandrina> (now /me is reading a tutorial... on compiling the kernel... hmmm... got it... will take it from here) thanks all
[10:57] <Seveas> so you don't have to hassle with that installer and compiling crud
[10:58] <e_machinist> Seveas, that will be helpful.
[10:58] <teleyinex> Seveas, thanks now works
[10:58] <teleyinex> Why happen this things?
[10:58] <Seveas> e_machinist, then you should use them, they come with handy metapackages too (I created those), so your X doesn't go FUBAR on upgrades ;)
[10:58] <saif> i am new to linux, and i managed to install ubuntu and install different servers and setup eclipse which took me a lot of work! i luv my ubuntu! BUT i have dual booting with windowsXP (which my wife uses) and of course it crashed (unrecoverable, reinstall from boot needed)!
[10:59] <Seveas> teleyinex, solar flares, the shadow of the moon and probably an eartquake at the south pole
[10:59] <saif> i need to install windows on the existing partition without messing up my linux!
[10:59] <Sanne> Sandrina, good luck :)
[10:59] <teleyinex> he
[10:59] <teleyinex> I mean, its a bug? or a corruption?
[10:59] <Steve^> I'm using qtparted btw, the swap part of the extended has a resize option, but not the reiserfs part. And resizing the extended bit didn't seem to work.   Any ideas?  Or alternative solutions?
[10:59] <nate__> hey, i just switched to openbox, does anybody know how to add stuff to the menue?
[10:59] <saif> i know this is not an ubuntu issue, but hints?? is it possible to reinstall windows while ubuntu is intact?
[10:59] <teleyinex> well
[10:59] <teleyinex> thanks
[10:59] <teleyinex> cya!
[11:00] <yggdrasil_> saif i wouldnt worry too much about it
[11:00] <yggdrasil_> just have to worry about your grub
[11:00] <Miyomei> saif: Do you have any unpartitioned space?
[11:00] <saif> ok,
[11:00] <pfarmer> nate__:  what version of openbox?
[11:00] <luisito> Hello Seveas.   If you want to shrink the Linux root partition you'll have to use gparted from a LiveCD.
[11:01] <drunkpikachu> To get the wireless card on my laptop to work using ndiswrapper, I need the .inf file? Or, is there anything else I can use since the only drivers I can find are .exe?
[11:01] <yggdrasil_> saif is your ubuntu still booting ?
[11:01] <nate__> drunkpikachu, you need the .sys
[11:01] <Seveas> luisito, you probably need only 5% of its functionality and can search the wiki for info on how to do that manually. It's not hard at all
[11:01] <saif> of course it is!!
[11:01] <drunkpikachu> nate: woo, even easier!
[11:01] <yggdrasil_> whats wrong with the windows ?
[11:01] <saif> Miyomei,
[11:01] <luisito> Seveas, ok. I listen to guys like guy, 'cause you are masters and have teach me everything I know by far. :)
[11:02] <Seveas> :)
[11:02] <saif> Miyomei, this is safe right?!?! i am worried about resizing my / partition
[11:02] <Seveas> luisito, we do our best
[11:02] <yggdrasil_> saif whats wrong with windows ?
[11:02] <saif> yggdrasil, it's not running, i get a blue screen on startup and it restarts
[11:02] <yggdrasil_> saif have you tried to just do a chckdisk on the windows partition
[11:02] <Miyomei> saif, I'm told it's safe. I'm in the process of doing the same thing as you right now, I just can't get my CD burning to run. ;p
[11:02] <yggdrasil_> not sure if you can fsck ntfs ?
[11:02] <Miyomei> Seveas, would you mind taking a look at the error GnomeBaker is giving me?
[11:03] <luisito> Seveas, ok. I listen to guys like you (correction), 'cause you are masters and have teach me everything I know by far. :)
[11:03] <saif> Miyomei,  :)
[11:03] <Seveas> Miyomei, paste it on the pastebin
[11:03] <Miyomei> Done.
[11:03] <saif> yggdrasil, nop!
[11:03] <nate__> OK, i have openbox3.2-7ubuntu1
[11:03] <luisito> ok. Here I goooo...
[11:03] <yggdrasil_> saif
[11:03] <saif> yggdrasil, yes?
[11:03] <thechitowncubs> I made a mistake and didn't install Ubuntu on my server computer with the boot command of server, is there any way of removing all packages that don't apply to that install?
[11:03] <yggdrasil_> heres what i would do
[11:03] <nate__> i need to add stuff to the menu
[11:03] <nate__> what file would i go to?
[11:03] <luisito> Seveas, thank you.
[11:03] <nate__> edit, etc
[11:04] <Psi-Jack> does anyone here have an emu10k1 sound card, or notibly, the SB PCI 512, and could help me with what does what regarding sound controls? :)
[11:04] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, use debfoster to prune ubuntu-desktop
[11:04] <yggdrasil_> figure out how to install grub without reinstalling ubuntu im sure its not that hard. then reinstall windows and then install grub
[11:04] <saif> yggdrasil, please note that windows does not start at all!! does F8 work with grub?
[11:04] <yggdrasil_> saif you cant fsck the windows partition
[11:04] <thechitowncubs> Seveas, what is the basic process?
[11:04] <pfarmer> nate__:  Can't remember if openbox autogen's menu's for you initially
[11:04] <blue-frog> thechitowncubs, you can just install whatever server apps u need and then disable gdm...
[11:04] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, sudo apt-get install debfoster; sudo debfoster
[11:04] <theCore> luisito, you make me remenber a old Zen poem To follow the path: look to the master, follow the master, walk with the master, see through the master, become the master.
[11:04] <pfarmer> nate__:  have a look in ~/.config/openbox/
[11:05] <saif> yggdrasil, ok, thanx for the advice!
[11:05] <yggdrasil_> saif i bet you could make a boot floppy witth your grub stuff on it also
[11:05] <Seveas> answer 's' to any questions, except for ubuntu-desktop answer 'p' there
[11:05] <yggdrasil_> get taht and make sure it work
[11:05] <thechitowncubs> Seveas, alright, i'll see how it works
[11:05] <JDigital> Hi all. How do I check if this "ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso" I have has correctly downloaded? Is there a CRC I can check or something?
[11:05] <nate__> pfarmer,  thanks, but where's ~/?
[11:05] <saif> i'll go look around for the grub trick! thanx! yggdrasil , Miyomei
[11:05] <drunkpikachu> Unrelated to Ubuntu but cool: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10805240/
[11:05] <hawking> Itry to remove a package but Ican't it always gives errors... is there a way to remove a package like an -f force option or smth like that?
[11:05] <nate__> also, when i try to open nautilus when using openbox, it messes everything up.  Is there another file navigator i should be using?
[11:05] <Miyomei> JDigital: The MD5 checksum file is on the download page.
[11:06] <luisito> theCore, that's a great poem.
[11:06] <pfarmer> nate__:  ~/ is your home directory.......
[11:06] <nate__> oh
[11:06] <Seveas> drunkpikachu, we have #ubuntu-offtopic for that...
[11:06] <drunkpikachu> :(
[11:07] <nate__> ok, found a rc.xml there, thanks pfarmer
[11:07] <Miyomei> Seveas, here's the error page: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6975
[11:07] <Sanne> nate__, you can start nautilus without it starting the gnome desktop along with it (but I don't know the exact command)
[11:07] <pfarmer> nate__:  if there isn't a menu.xml file in there then cp one from /etc/xdg/openbox/menu.xml into ~/.config/openbox and have a play
[11:07] <nate__> ok
[11:07] <JDigital> Miyomei: I cannot find it
[11:07] <JDigital> oh, I can
[11:07] <Seveas> Miyomei, does /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info exist?
[11:07] <JDigital> thanks
[11:07] <nate__> does anybody know the command to start nautilus without starting the GNOME desktop??  I think i might just go back to metacity WM :(
[11:08] <john_> what irc clients does everyone use?
[11:08] <Sanne> nate__, type 'nautilus --help' and see if you find the command to start without the desktop
[11:08] <Seveas> nate__, nautilus --no-desktop
[11:08] <khermans_> #gallery
[11:08] <Sanne> ah :)
[11:08] <nate__> Seveas, thanks much :D
[11:08] <khermans_> Is there any way to allow people to download an entir album in a zip file?
[11:08] <Miyomei> JDigital: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/
[11:08] <JDigital> Miyomei++
[11:08] <JDigital> thx
[11:08] <Psi-Jack> Anyone at all? :)
[11:08] <Miyomei> No problem.
[11:08] <Miyomei> Seveas, I'll check.
[11:09] <cat> hi,my cpu is amd bartom 2500+ ,if i install both kernel-k7 and nvidia-glx ,X will stop work ,
[11:09] <paladinew> just wondering, is there any particular reason why someone would install the new kde on ubuntu?  does it have better features or something ?
[11:09] <linlin> !java
[11:09] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:09] <cat> anyone ever met the same problem ?
[11:10] <Seveas> paladinew, the 1337-factor
[11:10] <Miyomei> Seveas, /proc/sys/dev/cdrom doesn't even exist. There's no cdrom folder.
[11:10] <Seveas> cat, you need linux-restricted-modules-k7 too
[11:10] <paladinew> ok, thats what I thought
[11:10] <Seveas> cat, best is to install the linux-k7 metapackage
[11:10] <Seveas> Miyomei, hmm....
[11:11] <Seveas> sounds like it's not going to work
[11:11] <john_> is it possible to add a channel to a favourites list in xchat???
[11:11] <nate__> what are the commands to copy/paste files?
[11:11] <theCore> Miyomei, /proc/sys/dev/cdrom should be there, even if there is no cdrom mounted
[11:11] <cat> Seveas, i tried to install linux-restricted-modules-k7 ,but it still the same...
[11:11] <Miyomei> Strange.
[11:11] <j3di> what is "auto eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:11] <Belboz99> Hey, I just installed some software with Wine, where would I be able to fine the executable?
[11:11] <Miyomei> I'll burn the LiveCD from another comp for now.
[11:12] <nate__> in the terminal what command would i use to copy and paste a file?
[11:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nate__: ctrl + shift + C to copy
[11:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ctrl + shift + V to paste
[11:12] <nate__> PuMpErNiCkLe, i mean in the terminal
[11:12] <Belboz99> nevermind, damn hidden folders get me every time!
[11:12] <scott_karana> nate__: the console?
[11:12] <nate__> yea
[11:12] <nate__> scott_karana, yea
[11:13] <olicat> can ubuntu breezy do 'sleep', rather than just suspend
[11:13] <scott_karana> I know there's something crazy like CTRL-SHIFT+INSERT to paste...
[11:13] <hawking> how can i remove a corrupt package??
[11:13] <nate__> no, it's something like "sudo cp /etc/xdg/openbox/menu.xml" or something
[11:13] <nate__> i forget
[11:13] <nate__> whatever i'll just google
[11:13] <cat> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-k7
[11:13] <cat> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-k7-nvidia-legacy
[11:13] <j3di> hawking: uninstall it using aptitude
[11:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nate__: sudo cp /old/path /new/path
[11:13] <blue-frog> nate__, you can highlight everything with your mouse and then paste using the wheel button
[11:14] <hawking> j3di :)
[11:14] <theCore> cat, install the `` linux-k7 '' meta-package
[11:14] <scott_karana> is there a `kosher' way to change my max resolution and so-on in Ubuntu? The xorg.conf talks about dexconf, but that tool looks pretty benign to me.
[11:15] <szronik> I have two ethernet cards in my system, one of which I installed not too long ago because the first one gave me problems. Every time the system boots up, I have to manually do a sudo -s and do a 'ifup eth1' - is there a way to automate this process?
[11:15] <paulproteus|lapt> szronik: Use the GNOME network interface configurator.
[11:15] <Xenguy> szronik: /etc/network/interfaces IIRC
[11:15] <paulproteus|lapt> System -> Configuration -> Network
[11:15] <C-O-L-T> how to get mplayer
[11:15] <C-O-L-T> ???
[11:15] <szronik> Thanks a lot, will do.
[11:15] <cat> i am going to install all of them
[11:15] <MattwestM> can someone help me with a video problem
[11:15] <Xenguy> szronik: or what paulproteus|lapt said :-)
[11:16] <scott_karana> C-O-L-T: Try out Marillat's repositories.
[11:16] <theCore> cat, linux-k7 install all the packages you need
[11:16] <C-O-L-T> scott_karana: how ?
[11:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: Possibly, what's the problem?
[11:16] <C-O-L-T> scott_karana: say to me the adress
[11:16] <theCore> cat: BTW, why you want the k7 kernel ?
[11:16] <theCore> do you *
[11:16] <yggdrasil_> saif i found these http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/20/backing-up-the-mbr/ actualy deals exactly what your doing
[11:16] <scott_karana> C-O-L-T:
[11:16] <scott_karana> http://debian.video.free.fr/
[11:16] <C-O-L-T> ok
[11:16] <C-O-L-T> thnaks
[11:16] <Sanne> C-O-L-T, mplayer is in multiverse
[11:16] <MattwestM> right after I get past all of the processes starting, right before the login screen should show, it freezes
[11:17] <cat> theCore, because my cpu is not intel but AMD
[11:17] <scott_karana> Sanne: he'd probably want win32codecs too though
[11:17] <Sanne> scott_karana, ah, ok
[11:17] <KyKo> Okay I'm trying to use Wine so I can run Steam.  I run "wine Steam" and then it asks me if I want to log in using an existing account.  I click it.  I want to type my ID and pw but it doesn't show up in there.
[11:17] <KyKo> It goes to my console even though I click on the steam window.
[11:17] <yggdrasil_> god i cant wait tilli can buy a laptop ubuntu on i
[11:17] <thechitowncubs> Seveas, is there any other way because debfoster didn't remove ubuntu-desktop all the way it only removed gnome-themes.
[11:17] <hawking> Iwant to make my keyboard layout turkish but when Ido "setxkbmap tr" it says Error loading new keyboard description what should i do??
[11:17] <olicat> anyone know how to make a desktop sleep, with ubuntu breezy?
[11:18] <scott_karana> yggdrasil_: I did: I got an iBook and discovered that I couldn't do wireless.
[11:18] <khermans_> HOw do I install software with "make install" to another directory other than /usr/local ?  I want to make it in /home/myuser/bin
[11:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: Can you switch to a console (ctrl + alt + F2), or has it completely frozen?
[11:18] <blue-frog> thechitowncubs, why do you absolutely want to remove everything?
[11:18] <yggdrasil_> scott thats why im gettin a pc
[11:18] <yggdrasil_> and a pcmcia card
[11:18] <theCore> cat, you won't notice a performance difference with the k7 kernel, an Intel i386 is pretty much the same of an AMD i386
[11:18] <scott_karana> khermans_: when you do ./configure, ad a "--prefix=/path/to/dir" on the end
[11:18] <thechitowncubs> blue-frog, i want to remove everything besides what would be installed by a server insall.
[11:18] <thechitowncubs> install
[11:18] <khermans_> scott_karana, ahh thanks dude :-)
[11:18] <dargaard_> is there a list of software repository servers i'm getting 404 not found error when trying to download updates
[11:18] <blue-frog> thechitowncubs, i understood but why?
[11:18] <MattwestM> PuMpErNiCkLe: Ctrl + Alt +F1 freezes, I haven't tried with F2 though
[11:19] <scott_karana> dargaard_: I've heard that's happening to others, no idea what's happening
[11:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: Same thing... it's just a different console.
[11:19] <Psi-Jack> win32codecs?
[11:19] <thechitowncubs> blue-frog, because I want to use it as a server and not just a disabled desktop
[11:19] <blue-frog> thechitowncubs, do you RAM problem?
[11:19] <MattwestM> and, I am using a PCI ATI Radeon 7800
[11:19] <allan__> 7800?
[11:19] <allan__> does that exist?
[11:19] <Sanne> khermans, also do a './configure --help' first, it tells you useful stuff you can do.
[11:19] <dargaard_> i would like to try other servers if i could get a list of them
[11:20] <blue-frog> thechitowncubs, then configure it as a server and if you don't want gdm to run you disable it.
[11:20] <scott_karana> Again, is there a way other than messing with my xorg.conf to change screen resolution? The xorg.conf for ubuntu has always had warning about dexconf and stuff.
[11:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: That might - *might* - possibly be the problem... I've seen weird bugs because of ATI cards.
[11:20] <MattwestM> wait, my bad, 7500
[11:20] <allan__> ah
[11:20] <cat> theCore, ok maybe , i'll try the last time ,BTM what does this option do :       title		Ubuntu, memtest86+
[11:20] <thechitowncubs> blue-frog, well i don't want openoffice, etc installed also
[11:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: Do you have an integrated video controller/alternative card?
[11:20] <MattwestM> yes, there is an onboard card
[11:20] <Psi-Jack> I see mplayer, but not win32codecs.
[11:20] <thechitowncubs> i want all not needed packages removed, what don't you understand?
[11:20] <lymz> rhythmbox won't launch, where are the settings and profiles stored?
[11:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: Have you tried taking out the ATI card and using that?
[11:20] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: win32codecs is only on non-Ubuntu repos
[11:21] <theCore> cat, it launch a set of memory  tests
[11:21] <blue-frog> thechitowncubs, do you have RAM and disk sapce problems? if not you just let the stuff...
[11:21] <MattwestM> ok, control + alt + F2 doesn't work either
[11:21] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: try Marillat, or rarewares failing that
[11:21] <thechitowncubs> blue-frog, yes i do
[11:21] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: Marillat?
[11:21] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: http://debian.video.free.fr/
[11:21] <blue-frog> thechitowncubs, then a server reinstall will be more advisable to my mind than risking possible problems..
[11:21] <cat> theCore,  ok ,noting useful ,del it from menu.list
[11:21] <cat> rebooting ..........
[11:21] <MattwestM> well, the onboard card is only 4MB, is that enought to run gnome?
[11:21] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: it's a repository for apt-get. I dunno your experience level...
[11:22] <thechitowncubs> blue-frog, gah
[11:22] <theCore> MattwestM, yes
[11:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: yeah
[11:22] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: I've been out of the loop for Linux about 3 years or so. But I still regularly use BSD. I'm not incompetent, but I'm also not fully familiar, and a little rusty, with the way the package management went. :)
[11:23] <MattwestM> if it does work without the ATI, is there a way to configure it if I get it to boot?
[11:23] <yggdrasil_> what wireless cards are recomended for ubuntu ?
[11:23] <dargaard_> an alternative to http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu thats all i ask  if there are no mirrors at this time i'll just wait.
[11:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: yeah - we can install the official ATI driver, which should make it work.
[11:23] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: then there's probably enough info at the bottom of that page. Maybe find a HOWTO for Pinning and Repositories to get up to speed.
[11:24] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: http://rarewares.org/debian.html will give you more info
[11:24] <theCore> yggdrasil_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHardware?highlight=%28Wifi%29
[11:24] <theCore> yggdrasil, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:25] <yggdrasil_> thanks guys ill check it out
[11:25] <dargaard_> oh well i'm here i have another question, i'm using a logitech usb mouse  system will not boot while its pluged in, hangs on initializing hot plug, is there a fix for this?
[11:25] <olicat> anyone know how to make a desktop sleep, with ubuntu breezy?
[11:25] <allan__> where does stuff go when you delete it? is there a trash folder somewhere i can empty?
[11:25] <yggdrasil_> would be ideal to find a laptop with builtin that will work
[11:25] <scott_karana> allan__: if you did "rm" at the terminal, you might be out of luck
[11:25] <Psi-Jack> There. I could presumably just download the win32codecs.deb, and install it manually, right?
[11:26] <scott_karana> allan__: otherwise, there's a trash folder in the bottom-right for Gnome
[11:26] <allan__> i just right click deleted
[11:26] <Noriega> great, I can't record without having to listen to mself in the headphones...
[11:26] <Xappe> yggdrasil_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:26] <Noriega> or wait..
[11:26] <allan__> theres nothing on my desktop
[11:26] <kent> allan__, in the bottom panel there is a trashcan
[11:26] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: yeah, but using apt-get is a lot more convenient when it has dependencies.
[11:26] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: True. But, does win32codecs have dependancies? :)
[11:26] <allan__> ahhh
[11:26] <allan__> i see
[11:26] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: probably not, but it's just not good practice.
[11:26] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: it  might want a different libc, or something.
[11:27] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm..
[11:27] <Psi-Jack> True,,
[11:27] <theCore> Psi-Jack, apt-get handle all dependencies for you
[11:27] <Psi-Jack> So, then, you actually recommend me to put debian-marillat in my sources?
[11:28] <allan__> its telling me i dont have permission to delete some things. i was transfering songs off a DVD, but i had to cancel in the middle because i had to leave. im trying to delete what i had transferred and start anew, but its not letting me
[11:28] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: Yeah, I do. It only has multimedia stuff, so it can't screw up your core OS.
[11:28] <MattwestM> ok, when I remove the Radeon card, it works fine
[11:28] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: Good enough for me. :)
[11:28] <allan__> any ideas?
[11:29] <smtkr> I want to add . to my path, but I'm not familiar with the ubuntu interface. On the RH:EL systems at work (the way they have them set), I could just add a line like set path=($path . ) to my .cshrc file. I assume the equivalent in ubuntu is .bashrc, but adding a line like that doesn't work
[11:29] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: I'm not /as/ used to binary-based package management. Most of the time in my later years of using Linux, I used source-based distros.
[11:29] <Xenguy> smtkr: no you don't...
[11:29] <theCore> allan__: cd ~/.Trash/ && sudo -rf *
[11:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: Okay, then, the most likely fix is to install and configure the official ATI driver and use it instead of the OSS version.
[11:29] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: One of the reasons I burned out, probably. :)
[11:29] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: Fair enough. That's what I use on more production worthy machines, myself.
[11:29] <MattwestM> where do I get the driver?
[11:29] <Xenguy> smtkr: that's considered bad from a security POV :/
[11:29] <nate__> where's the openbox config files?
[11:29] <MattwestM> ATI?
[11:30] <smtkr> how so?
[11:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: This is teh easy part... :)