[15:49] <aidian> https://www.zdnet.com/article/apache-web-server-bug-grants-root-access-on-shared-hosting-environments/
[15:49] <aidian> go update your web servers, everyone
[23:50] <aidian> sooo.
[23:51] <aidian> i'm not really familiar with package maintaining.
[23:52] <aidian> but /bin/dash changed behavior from 16.04->18.04, which is breaking another package i need.
[23:53] <aidian> the package i need, votca-csg, does have a fix, but it's not in the 18.04 repo. but it _is_ in 19.04
[23:54] <aidian> i'm not entirely sure how to solve this
[23:54] <aidian> and no, i can't update the whole system to 19.04 for one dumb package
[23:55] <aidian> anyone have any suggestions or advice? it seems like the 18.04 package probably _should_ be updated to the not broken version
[23:55] <aidian> cause otherwise the software is basically DOA without a really horrible workaround


[18:06] <elyezer> I'm using ubuntu on beaglebone black and I have downloaded images from http://www.armhf.com/. I'd like to know if there is some tutorial on how to customise rootfs. I'd like to add some scripts and change default network configuration.
[18:06] <elyezer> Sorry if it is not the correct channel to ask
[18:07] <ogra_> shouldnt be different to any other ubuntu
[18:08] <ogra_> suerspace is all the same on all arches ... what works on ubuntu desktop or server will also work on the bone installation
[18:08] <ogra_> *userspace
[18:12] <ogra_> (read, the normal ubuntu documentation will apply, just look on the ubuntu wiki, there are many howtos)
[18:14] <MiksterX> Hi guys - anyone knows how to create support for TUN? It seems no module is loaded I think...


[14:42] <davef> So a night out on the town in Brighton left me with minor hearing loss. Starting to get back to normal now lol
[14:42] <daftykins> xD
[15:01] <zxmpi_> WHAT?! :-P


[03:37] <taserman21> Can someone help me with an Openbox problem?
[03:38] <AndyDevSA> Yup
[03:38] <taserman21> Okay, thank you.
[03:38] <AndyDevSA> Why openbox?
[03:38] <AndyDevSA> If I may ask?
[03:39] <taserman21> Well, with some windows, when I press minimize maximize or close it won't do anything. Do I need to reinstall openbox?
[03:39] <AndyDevSA> Damn..
[03:39] <AndyDevSA> And you just have a bare install of openbox?
[03:39] <AndyDevSA> Are you looking for a light gui?
[03:40] <taserman21> Well, no, I am running Lubuntu 15.04
[03:40] <taserman21> And it has worked before.
[03:40] <AndyDevSA> Aaaa...ok
[03:40] <AndyDevSA> Have you run logs?
[03:41] <taserman21> No, I rarely do, I always forget how to.
[03:41] <AndyDevSA> Don't we all
[03:42] <taserman21> I can look it up if you forget too, lol.
[03:42] <taserman21> xD
[03:43] <AndyDevSA> It's could be: ~/.xinitrc here
[03:43] <AndyDevSA> Been moons since I've used a gui
[03:43] <taserman21> cool
[03:43] <taserman21> ?
[03:44] <AndyDevSA> There you may find issue with your devices...?
[03:44] <AndyDevSA> Why ?
[03:44] <taserman21> I don't have a ~/.xinitrc
[03:44] <AndyDevSA> Oh.. Ok
[03:45] <AndyDevSA> Have you run a search query? Are you in via ssh?
[03:45] <taserman21> Yeah, sorry I am not running a normal computer, I "hacked" a chromebook
[03:45] <taserman21> Uh... no I am in the actual OS
[03:46] <taserman21> I can close the windows by left clicking on their icons in lxpanel and clicking close window
[03:46] <AndyDevSA> Open a shelll
[03:46] <AndyDevSA> Honestly, this sounds like device conflicts
[03:47] <AndyDevSA> We don't deliver too deep in graphics as most of out servers are headless..
[03:47] <taserman21> I mean it worked until earlier today... quite randomly actually
[03:48] <taserman21> "we"?
[03:48] <AndyDevSA> We are anonymous ...
[03:48] <AndyDevSA> Hahha
[03:48] <taserman21> xD
[03:48] <AndyDevSA> Lol, my company
[03:48] <taserman21> Oh, ok.
[03:49] <AndyDevSA> Try install gnome desktop
[03:49] <taserman21> And then?
[03:49] <AndyDevSA> And then see if it works!?!
[03:50] <taserman21> I have tried other window managers but it doesn't really work.
[03:50] <taserman21> Ok, I guess
[03:51] <AndyDevSA> Would you like the commands? You would need to do it in a shell
[03:51] <taserman21> Well, do you want me to try a different DE or a completely diferent Flavour!?!
[03:52] <AndyDevSA> What revision of Ubuntu are you running?
[03:52] <taserman21> 15.04
[03:52] <AndyDevSA> I'm proposing retaining lubuntu, but installing gnome on too
[03:53] <taserman21> Ok, so again, the DE of Gnome, or Dual-Boot gnome?
[03:54] <AndyDevSA> You should be able to dual boot without any probems.. If you are referring to the gui? We do not change anything but the interface
[03:55] <AndyDevSA> This "hack" is a r&d ma cin
[03:55] <AndyDevSA> Sorry, machine?
[03:55] <AndyDevSA> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[03:55] <taserman21> okay
[03:55] <AndyDevSA> sudo service gdm restart
[03:56] <AndyDevSA> Then where you were referring to switching.,,
[03:56] <AndyDevSA> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[03:56] <AndyDevSA> Will allows you to fine tune
[03:56] <taserman21> So, how will this fix my problem with openbox?
[03:58] <AndyDevSA> Process of elimination .. If you don't have any problems with gnome, then you know your "hacked chrome" isn't faulty?
[03:58] <AndyDevSA> Which is ease autos
[03:58] <AndyDevSA> Bloody auto correct
[03:58] <AndyDevSA> I meant to say,, the
[03:59] <AndyDevSA> Then at least you know your hardware is fine
[03:59] <taserman21> Ok, well, I don't think my Chrome is faulty.
[03:59] <taserman21> I don't know why the hardware would affect one aspect of software that pertains to a small part of other software that pertains to another software and so on and so on
[04:00] <AndyDevSA> Neither do I..
[04:00] <AndyDevSA> But it's how I would at least eliminate possibilities
[04:00] <taserman21> Wait did we just spend the last 10 min. talking about nothing? xD
[04:01] <AndyDevSA> Enjoy your chrome
[04:01] <taserman21> well, let me try reinstalling openbox
[04:02] <AndyDevSA> Ok .. Bye now
[04:03] <taserman21> Wait, did I seem like a jerk, because evertime I typed something it looked like a jerky thing to say?
[04:04] <taserman21> whatever. Byeeeeeee
[04:04] <AndyDevSA> Pompous
[04:41] <Optical> hello everyone
[04:42] <Optical> I am installing lubuntu and I am stuck.  It is asking for the HTTP proxy information
[04:42] <Optical> Not sure what to put.
[04:56] <Optical> I went ahead and hit continue since I have been looking this up for over 2 hours.  I'll see what I can do later. If anyone has any advice I will still be around. Thanks in advance!
[05:13] <jokysmile> I need help trouble shooting sound. lubuntu 15.04 acer aspire v5 122p 0869. with alsamixer it seems like i'm close.
[05:13] <jokysmile> also installed pavucontrol and xfce4-mixer
[05:16] <jokysmile> never mind i think i got it
[08:11] <lord-ragnarock> Who here's familiar with Old World PPC Macs? It seems the kernel and initrd.gz images from the Lubuntu disk are booting into the Ubuntu alt intaller, despite having a Lubuntu CD in. Is that to be expected? :P
[08:13] <Optical> i sure wish i could help you lord-ragnarock
[08:15] <lord-ragnarock> Ahaha. Honestly, I'll be surprised if someone can. Last time I muddled w/ Linux on that mac was 2010.
[08:16] <lord-ragnarock> And the last time that mac was used seriously was probably 2002 :/
[08:21] <lord-ragnarock> Well, so far the installer aint complaining. fingers crossed! :)
[08:26] <lord-ragnarock> Hmmmm. Now I just had a weird idea.
[08:28] <lord-ragnarock> Let's say on this Mac I have a USB card, but OS 9 (default system) doesn't recognize it. Linux, however, does upon bootup (not sure how far into the process)
[08:28] <lord-ragnarock> With that card I have this 16GB flash drive plugged in. Is it possible I could have the kernel setroot that partition?
[08:53] <Optical> thats well beyond my level haha. im just starting out.
[15:33] <lord-ragnarock> Soo, who's familiar with the ppc architecture? :)
[15:45] <teward> lord-ragnarock: not me, ppc is weird, imo
[15:45] <teward> :P
[15:45] <teward> (armhf is interesting but lulzy)
[15:46] <lord-ragnarock> Ahaha :P
[15:48] <lord-ragnarock> A little fyi, the specific machine I'm installing on is a Powermac 7500 ;)
[19:02] <eipi10> the default folders in /home/username are ones like "documents" "music" etc, but there are some like "remote" "recent" and others that aren't displayed.  After editing .config/user-dirs.dirs, I still can't these folders to "show up".  The reason I want them to "show up" is so I can customize the icon (well I just need one).  Anyone have advice?
[19:37] <eipi10> nm.  It's in /etc/xdg.
[21:46] <raalex> Is there a way to restart a game in Freecell on Lubuntu?
[21:47] <raalex> I can't do anything but close/open again. Not being able to restart seems like a major thing missing.
[21:53] <ianorlin> which package is the freecell game
[21:54] <ianorlin> if you don't know you can use xprop WM_CLASS in a terminal to find out when you click on the window
[22:06] <hotarun> so i installed lubuntu 15.10 thinking it was going to include lxqt
[22:06] <Freddie_Mercury> Nope.
[22:06] <hotarun> is the team waiting until 1.0?
[22:06] <Freddie_Mercury> That'll be in 16.04 LTS, more than likely.
[22:06] <hotarun> ok that makes sense
[22:06] <ianorlin> actually probalbly too big change for lxs
[22:06] <ianorlin> lts
[22:06] <hotarun> gotcha
[22:06] <vikingredwolf> hotarun, we usually post about those things
[22:07] <Freddie_Mercury> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing
[22:07] <hotarun> so will I run into big problems changing from lxde to lxqt on this 15.10 install
[22:07] <vikingredwolf> yup
[22:07] <Freddie_Mercury> "Work continues on integrating LXQt into Lubuntu, but we'll likely not see it released until 16.10 (Y cycle). If you're curious about development, check out the blueprints. "
[22:07] <Freddie_Mercury> ^ hotarun
[22:07] <hotarun> thanks for the link
[22:07] <vikingredwolf> we expect having LXQt pretty stable for 16.10
[22:07] <hotarun> cool
[22:07] <Freddie_Mercury> So, even later than 16.04 LTS, I guess.
[22:09] <hotarun> 15.10 is stable for me so far
[22:09] <vikingredwolf> yes, but LXQt is failing somewhere in 15.10
[22:10] <vikingredwolf> the testing PPAs are not recommendable for daily systems at all
[22:10] <Freddie_Mercury> Yeah, I wouldn't try that on a production/desktop system that you use.
[22:10] <hotarun> thanks for the headsup
[22:10] <Freddie_Mercury> What I do in these cases is open up a VM.
[22:10] <vikingredwolf> :)
[22:10] <Freddie_Mercury> And go nuts in that.
[22:10] <hotarun> yup I'm gonna throw a VM together
[22:10] <hotarun> I'm excited for lxqt, it's looking good
[22:11] <Freddie_Mercury> Yeah, I'm on Lubuntu too so I can understand. =P


[01:43] <OvenWerks> To those who might care :) I just saw the bug with backport Ardour 4.7 to X and T. Sounds ok to me. I would however advise against anything higher. The next likely Ardour version will be 5.0 which will have another session file change. That is 5.* ardour sessions will not work with A4.7. Ardour 5 breaks OSC control from 4.7 as well (and gains much better feedback as well as banking)
[01:54] <OvenWerks> hmm, Bug 1585007 ... Needed Carla sooner it seems... There have been some new additions to LV2 in common use. This may be the cause here.
[01:55] <OvenWerks> lv2rack has not been maintained for years.
[09:48] <zequence> OvenWerks: Backports should not be confused with updates. Backports may include the very latest.
[09:48] <zequence> And, should
[09:48] <zequence> Updates means bug fixes only
[09:49] <zequence> And exception to that is Firefox
[09:50] <zequence> So, now that we have backports happening, we need to educate our users so they have the opportunity to turn off backports
[09:51] <zequence> Actually, we could do a backport for -controls which does a one time information for users during login.
[10:00] <zequence> I'll have a look at that after I've finished my education, at around 10th of June.
[10:28] <cub> But OvenWerks bug 1585007, does it affect other version than 15.04?*
[10:29] <cub> As 15.04 is EOL...
[10:54] <zequence> We should even add the possibility to control backports during installation, as it will be more important in the future, but again, I will not have time to work on that until later
[11:02] <zequence> sakrecoer: A new feature definition https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/FeatureDefinitions/InformUsersAboutBackports
[11:04] <zequence> sakrecoer: Also, I would not add particular work items for specific packages that we will be adding here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntustudio-y-development, since we will add all at once. WOuld only require one line. The packages are
[11:04] <zequence> ..listed here, as you know https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelection/yakkety
[11:09] <zequence> sakrecoer: Another detail - you should add the LP team that is responsible for a work item at the beginning of each line
[11:09] <zequence> sakrecoer: Like so [ubuntustudio-dev]
[11:09] <zequence> When someone wants to do that work item, they replace the team name with their own LP nick
[11:10] <zequence> ..and changes TODO into INPROGRESS, and finally to DONE
[11:12]  * zequence wasn't looking into each blueprint before, and is seeing some weirdness there, but it's no big deal.
[11:16] <zequence> sakrecoer: If you wish, you can create a new blueprint for InformUsersAboutBackports and add the 2-3 things to be done as work items
[11:17] <zequence> Most probably I will be doing the work on -controls and ubiquity, so I will not need work items, but if you want to control what is going to be done during this cycle, and approve it, the blueprint is a nice way to do that
[11:19] <zequence> The hard part is formulazing the feature additions/removals into specific work items.
[11:19] <zequence> But, for each work item there should be a longer more detailed explanation in a feature definition page
[11:19] <zequence> So, that is how the two should work together
[11:21] <zequence> Ok, I really need to focus on some things, so I will be offline most of the time the next few days