[06:20] <Nvrnight> where do I put the nano /etc...
[06:21] <sunogbaga> varaonaid: uve tried on shell
[06:21] <intelikey> Nvrnight in the console you will be booting into
[06:21] <Nvrnight> k
[06:21] <Tendervittles> hi guys
[06:21] <Nvrnight> I'm gonna try it once this cd gets done burning
[06:21] <varaonaid> sunogbaga: yes, i also tried the gnome-ui-properties in shell, still said command not found
[06:21] <intelikey> k
[06:21] <marx2k> can someone try to connect to www.amazonaws.com:7040 and tell me if you can hit it?
[06:21] <marx2k> http:// btw
[06:22] <LimCore_> either I'm having bad luck, or installation of flash for amd64 7.10 is fucked up,  anyone can help me to debug a bit?
[06:22] <izaq> I'm try to install ICA Client in Ubuntu 7.10
[06:22] <sunogbaga> varaonaid: what distro do you have?
[06:22] <izaq> can some body help me !
[06:22] <varaonaid> sunogbaga: ubuntu 7.10
[06:22] <LimCore_> izaq: whats the problem
[06:22] <SUSELover> what would be the ideal Os for a laptop ... suse / Ubuntu
[06:22] <izaq> is not start :(
[06:22] <rico> ah, some progress, i tryed to Terminal wine to run the game's installer, it came up with this error message
[06:22] <rico> "XFree86-DRI"
[06:23] <rico> extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:23] <rico> that ^^
[06:23] <SUSELover> what would be the ideal Os for a laptop ... suse / Ubuntu
[06:23] <electrofreak> ubuntu
[06:23] <astro76> SUSELover, best thing is to try each, see which you prefer
[06:23] <n2diy>  Ubuntu
[06:23] <Tendervittles> Hi everyone, im trying to get my wireless NIC working with Ubuntu 7.10 and im a noob. can anyone help me?
[06:23] <TheOnlyMerlin> Hi all.  Ubuntu noob here.  :-/
[06:23] <rico> lol
[06:23] <rico> alot of us here :P
[06:24] <mzuverink> wjile in a composite window manager, cairo-clock still show up as a gray quear, just as if I was only in metacity, whats the fix for that?
[06:24] <MasterShrek> Tendervittles, in a terminal type: lspci | grep Network      and give me the output
[06:24] <eek_teh_cat> is it easy to get adobe flash to work with the 64bit version of firefox? I keep on trying to install it but pages like youtube say i dont have it properly installed
[06:24] <MasterShrek> eek_teh_cat, have you installed nspluginwrapper?
[06:24] <Tendervittles> k one sec
[06:24] <LimCore_> eek_teh_cat: it is fucked up, at least for me.  other reported to have it working
[06:25] <eek_teh_cat> no master, should i start with that?
[06:25] <MasterShrek> eek_teh_cat, yes
[06:25] <SUSELover> Ubuntu system response is great ... SLED ..boot up is bit slow.. but good functionality.. the gnome menu is what I love... hardware fully supported.. so now what to do ?
[06:25] <TheOnlyMerlin> I am actuallly rather curious about the thinking of the design of this OS.  Alot of things strike me as "YES, FINALLY!"
[06:25] <eek_teh_cat> lim: i have been having trouble since moving to 64 bit with stuf flike that, gnash is horrible buggy
[06:25] <MasterShrek> LimCore_, have you tried nspluginwrapper --help      to see what ways to use it?
[06:26] <Longfellow> hey guys, is there an ubuntu gaming channel?
[06:26] <Longfellow> guess not, anyone know any good games for ubuntu?
[06:27] <kappakappuccino> I just stick to windows when I want to game
[06:27] <eek_teh_cat> long: i don't any, i still keep a version of windows for gaming
[06:27] <Tendervittles> MasterShrek: the output is:  00:50.0 Nwtwork controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g wireless lan controller
[06:27] <TheOnlyMerlin> You can run alot of windows games with WINE.. too bad I haven;t figured it all out yet.
[06:27]  * intelikey doesn't know any good windows games
[06:27] <kappakappuccino> when it comes to games I just want it to work
[06:27] <rico> same
[06:27] <kappakappuccino> I have enough problems on windows machines with games
[06:27] <varaonaid> sunogbaga: i also am missing the advanced desktop properties (in system>prefs) for custom settings for compiz.  i have no control over compiz
[06:28] <TheOnlyMerlin> http://appdb.winehq.org/
[06:28] <Weng> Longfellow: Armagetron will consume copious amounts of time.
[06:28] <astro76> Tendervittles, have you enabled the driver in System > Administration > Restricted Drivers Manager? that should be all that's necessary
[06:28] <Tendervittles> me either vara
[06:28] <eek_teh_cat> i'm really hoping virtualization will soon work well with graphics accelerators
[06:28] <MasterShrek> Tendervittles, http://www.mediafire.com/?bqn8x4eancv   download that file, then let me know
[06:28] <varaonaid> sunogbaga: didn't know if it was related.
[06:28] <MasterShrek> Tendervittles, follow astro76 's advice first
[06:28] <kappakappuccino> there is always wine and cedega if you really want to pursue linux gaming
[06:28] <rico> is it possible to partition some of my HDD for windows, i already have Ubuntu installed taking it all, can i break some spear HDD space into a new partition for XP?
[06:28] <MasterShrek> Tendervittles, it may be easier
[06:28] <varaonaid> Tendervittles: do you have system>prefs>menu and toolbars?
[06:28] <astro76> Tendervittles, MasterShrek, I have the bcm4306 also, should just work
[06:29] <Tendervittles> i have a Linksys Card though
[06:29] <intelikey> rico boot a live cd  (gparted CD maybe)   and try it.
[06:29] <Weng> rico: Boot from a gparted liveCD, resize your Ubuntu partition, install Windows, and then repair Grub.
[06:29] <TheOnlyMerlin> I heard news that ati was going to (or has??) fully support linux with their drivers.  (I guess to keep up with nvidia)
[06:29] <MasterShrek> Tendervittles, it has a broadcom 4306
[06:29] <MasterShrek> chipset
[06:29] <rico> so not all games run on ubuntu?
[06:29] <MasterShrek> rico, no, but alot will using wine
[06:29] <mnemonica> intelikey: Nope, still didn't work.
[06:29] <MasterShrek> !wine | rico
[06:29] <ubotu> rico: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[06:29] <TheOnlyMerlin> No, not all games run on ubuntu.
[06:30] <intelikey> rico be advised that windows is very much a first primarry partition hog.
[06:30] <Weng> rico: Windows install WILL smash Grub, so you will have to fix it, unfortunately.
[06:30] <tomas_> sveiki
[06:30] <rico> ah k, so easier to just format and start from scratch?
[06:30] <TheOnlyMerlin> Rico: Although you can get alot to run using WINE.  And you can find a bunch of free game sunder Applications --> Add / Remove
[06:30] <eek_teh_cat> MasterShrek: it seems  nspluginwrapper comes installed by default, so unless i need to tweak something, i don't know if adobe's flash player will work with 64bit ubuntu
[06:30] <Guza> hi
[06:30] <rico> install Windows, then install Ubuntu?
[06:30] <Guza> i have this error
[06:30] <Weng> rico: Really, yes. Starting from scratch is the best idea. And Windows should always be the first OS you install.
[06:31] <TheOnlyMerlin> <-- INstalled Windows, then Ubuntu.  Ran smoothly
[06:31] <Guza> User sasha may run the following commands on this host:
[06:31] <Guza>     (ALL) ALL
[06:31] <Guza>     (ALL) ALL
[06:31] <rico> gay MS
[06:31] <Guza> what i must do
[06:31] <intelikey> rico if you want the path of least resistance.  resize your install   make a new partition for linux   migrate to that partition and install windows on the old "first" partition.     imo that's the easiest.
[06:31] <Weng> (Followed by your Unixes, with OSX at the end, if you're one of the crazy people like me that simply must have a Grub menu 10 miles long)
[06:31] <MasterShrek> eek_teh_cat, youll have to tweak something, you have to find where the flashplayer plugin was installed to, and run: nspluginswrapper -i <file>    on it
[06:31] <eek_teh_cat> ah
[06:31] <rico> lol
[06:32] <Guza> can some one help
[06:32] <Guza> me
[06:32] <Guza> i was type
[06:32] <Guza> sudo -l
[06:32] <rico> so how do i break some of the spare HDD into a new partition?
[06:32] <Guza> and password
[06:32] <astro76> !enter | Guza
[06:32] <ubotu> Guza: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:32] <eek_teh_cat> MasterShrek: thanks i'll try that out immediately
[06:32] <Tendervittles> astro: when i try to enable it under restricted drivers it says no software source, same for my graphics card
[06:32] <rico> put the ubuntu cd in or is it a program i need to DL?
[06:32] <varaonaid> is it safe to use synaptic to remove gnome-control-center then reinstall or will it bork my system?  it seems to be broken
[06:32] <Guza> ok
[06:32] <TheOnlyMerlin> I personally would like a friendly, cross platform / cross-computer data storage system.  A data layer that would make what computer I am on and what OS I am using more irrelevant.
[06:33] <mohan> 这里好玩
[06:33] <astro76> varaonaid, well, reinstalling things usually doesn't fix anything anyway (that's a windows kludge)
[06:33] <rico> i think ill just start from scratch, i havent got anything on this that aint irriplaceable.... yet :P
[06:33] <Guza> so can someone help me with sudo privilages? i can enter as root in my system
[06:33] <varaonaid> astro76: i
[06:33] <MasterShrek> eek_teh_cat, the file you are looking for is: libflashplayer.so
[06:33] <astro76> Tendervittles, hmm? are you unable to install software through synaptic also? what is the error exactly?
[06:33] <matkix> I've got a question. I'm running ubuntu server and have added a usb drive. How would I mount this drive so I can use it for backup?
[06:34] <rico> god i hate windows atm
[06:34] <varaonaid> 'm missing a package that should have been in that but I don't have it
[06:34] <mohan> 我不懂英语，谁懂中文啊
[06:34] <Tendervittles> i have installed ndiswrapper through synaptic
[06:34] <Weng> Alright. So. I have 4 displays up now. Is there anyway to make the GDM *NOT* stretch out across all of them? Or am I going to have to make my own custom GDM?
[06:34] <Tendervittles> i think
[06:34] <MasterShrek> LimCore_, you want to run nspluginwrapper -i libflashplayer.so         on the flashplayer plugin file, im not sure exactly where its located but eek_teh_cat is looking for it too, so you two help eachother :)
[06:34] <rico> so Wine will run SOME games but not all?
[06:34] <rico> hmm
[06:34]  * MasterShrek isnt using ubuntu, otherwise id help you two find it
[06:34] <matkix> Anyone willing to help mount a usb drive?
[06:34] <varaonaid> rico: yes some but not all
[06:34] <matkix> on ubuntu servr
[06:35] <matkix> server*
[06:35] <Nvrnight> intelikey: I got it to the file: /etc/X11/xorg.com, what do I do now that this screen is up
[06:35] <chronosx> matkix: is your usb drive ntfs formatted?
[06:35] <rico> so any idea why VMplayer wont work?
[06:35] <Weng> rico: If it's DirectX-only, it's safe to assume it won't work. If it's OpenGL, it's usually safe to assume it will work to at least some extent.
[06:35] <Nvrnight> and ty btw, never made it this far without the screen going off
[06:35] <chronosx> matkix: install ntfs-3g
[06:35] <matkix> chronosx: not sure, I just picked her up at officemax.
[06:35] <rico> coz i initially wanted to run a virtual machine, got the machine ready but need VM player to well, play it :P lol
[06:35] <eek_teh_cat> what's that little * mean
[06:35] <MasterShrek> rico, i think virtualbox will play it too, and its probably easier to install
[06:36] <rico> worth a try
[06:36] <rico> is ti free?
[06:36] <rico> it*
[06:36] <MasterShrek> yes, its in the repos
[06:36] <MasterShrek> !info virtualbox
[06:36] <matkix> chronosx: how would i run the package manager from shell to install ntfs-3g?
[06:36] <ubotu> Package virtualbox does not exist in gutsy
[06:36] <MasterShrek> lies!
[06:36] <MasterShrek> !virualizers
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virualizers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <MasterShrek> !vm
[06:36] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[06:37] <Weng> VMWare under Linux is a magical, magical thing. Getting it installed is almost like a Linux IQ test.
[06:37] <Longfellow> Hey guys, im trying to install steam with Wine and when I open the install file with wine i get nothing
[06:37] <chronosx> matkix: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[06:37] <Tendervittles> Astro: the exact output is: The Software Source for the package: bcm43xx-fwcutter is not enabled.
[06:37] <eek_teh_cat> installing flash form mozilla isn't putting a libflashplayer.so anywhere, but i believe the packagemanager will, and from that we should be able to  nspluginwrapper it.
[06:37] <rico> ive found its install
[06:37] <MasterShrek> ok =P
[06:37] <matkix> chronosx: now how might I go about the mounting of this drive?
[06:37] <bosco> # linux
[06:37] <bosco> join/# linux
[06:38] <chronosx> matkix: it is already automatic on ubuntu
[06:38] <matkix> So what would it be named? / how can I access it?
[06:38] <MasterShrek> matkix, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/xxxx /mount/point
[06:38] <rico> yay, this 1 is INSTALLING :D lol
[06:38] <MasterShrek> matkix, sudo fdisk -l    will give you the /dev/xxxx name, and just mount it whereever you want, making sure there is a directory there
[06:38] <rico> unlike VM player :P
[06:38] <chronosx> it will appear as hard disk icon on the desktop, the name is based on the volume name of the drive
[06:39] <MasterShrek> chronosx, hes running server
[06:39] <bosco> i am having a problem getting my a atheros wireless card to work with ubuntu can anyone help me ?????
[06:39] <matkix> chronosx: no desktop / server
[06:39] <chronosx> MasterShrek: i thought the only difference with ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server is lamp stack :-)
[06:39] <Tendervittles> Can anyone help me get on my wireless network with ubuntu? i have a WMP54G from Linksys and it works correctly in XP on the same machine
[06:40] <`slushpuppy\> Hi, I have a problem with scroll lag in ubuntu
[06:40] <MasterShrek> nope, server has no gui by default
[06:40] <Weng> bosco: You'll need to install madwifi for an Atheros board.
[06:40] <chronosx> haven't yet tried lamp, i like postgresql better :D
[06:40] <matkix> chronosx: I got no option for a gui. Not that I need one. This is a nagios / backup box!
[06:40] <matkix> :)
[06:40] <RedHeron> Got an error... any help here?
[06:41] <bosco> Weng, did that and still ran into problems dont know what it is can you help me further
[06:41] <MasterShrek> Tendervittles, system > admin > software sources        and enable universe and multiverse then try that process you were doing before
[06:41] <rico> well it seems to have installed, so where is it hiding?
[06:41] <marupa> Hi, I'm an artist and using Ubuntu, got my tablet working, however...whenever there's ANYTHING on the clipboard, whenever I tip-down it tries to paste the contents of the clipboard, leading to annoying errors in gimp, and problems with programs.
[06:41] <Filled-void> Looking for a software to reduce the size of my digitcal camera pictures. I have to put them in an OO document.
[06:41] <marupa> Filled-void, imagemagick
[06:41] <matkix> So I found the drive to be /dev/sdb1, now if I wanted to mount that as backup.... I would need to first make a directory nameb backup and then run the command to mount it there? What might that command look like.... and how can I get this to mount to this on every boot?
[06:41] <chronosx> matkix: if it doesn't automount on /media folder, try:  sudo mkdir /media/your_preferred_volume_name_here.  then  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb /media/your_preferred_volume_name_here
[06:41] <MasterShrek> marupa, is Emulate3Buttons enabled in your xorg.conf?
[06:41] <Filled-void> marupa, Thanks will check that out
[06:41] <RedHeron> Any help on a weird error?
[06:42] <marupa> MasterShrek, Yes
[06:42] <MasterShrek> matkix, first, yes make sure there is a folder where you plan to mount it
[06:42] <J-_> !tablet
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <MasterShrek> marupa, disable it
[06:42] <Weng> bosco: Does ifconfig list an ath0 and/or a wifi0?
[06:42] <intelikey> RedHeron you'll have to post it before you will get any help on it.
[06:42] <Tendervittles> Master: they were already checked
[06:42] <RedHeron> The running kernel lacks CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL support
[06:42] <marupa> MasterShrek, Won't that disable my scrolling?
[06:42] <MasterShrek> matkix, next, you can mount it by: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /backup       (it was ntfs right?)
[06:43] <MasterShrek> marupa, i dont think so
[06:43] <marupa> MasterShrek, Mkay, I'll try it.
[06:43] <MasterShrek> marupa, no promises though :P
[06:43] <intelikey> RedHeron ah nice.   you build that kernel or is it stock ?
[06:43] <RedHeron> Stock
[06:43] <bosco> Weng, no it does not just "eth0" which is my ethernet and "lo" which is me
[06:43] <matkix> MasterShrek: yeah yeah :) office max special, need a 500 gig backup drive.
[06:43] <earlmred> hmm
[06:43] <RedHeron> Gutsy on AMD64 w/ nVidia chipset
[06:43] <earlmred> so i installed the official nvidia drivers
[06:43] <earlmred> everything was working
[06:43] <earlmred> i rebooted
[06:43] <earlmred> and X is in low-graphics mode.
[06:43] <intelikey> RedHeron you may need to fetch another one   or roll your own.
[06:44] <rc-1> I want my automount demon to NOT automatically remove devices when the external hard drives spin down, is there a way?
[06:44] <RedHeron> How?
[06:44] <MasterShrek> matkix, also, you can put this line at the end of your /etc/fstab: /dev/sdb1    /backup    ntfs-3g      defaults       0     0
[06:44] <matkix> MasterShrek: Ooops, its fat32.... what do you think I should do?
[06:44] <RedHeron> intelikey: Do you mean recompile my own?
[06:44] <intelikey> RedHeron what is burping out that error message anyway ?
[06:44] <MasterShrek> matkix, use vfat instead of ntfs-3g
[06:44] <intelikey> RedHeron yes.
[06:44] <Weng> bosco: lsmod | grep ath_hal
[06:44] <eek_teh_cat> lim: http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz contains libflashplayer.so
[06:44] <RedHeron> intelikey: hdparm is, because I'm trying to unlock/erase a HDD and I don't know WTF I'm doing.
[06:45] <MasterShrek> eek_teh_cat, use the entire nick, so they notice you :)
[06:45] <matkix> MasterShrek: So then just add this to the /etc/fstab?
[06:45] <Tendervittles> Can anyone help me connect to my wireless network? i am using: Ubuntu 7.10 and a WMP54g Linksys wireless NIC
[06:45] <`slushpuppy\> Hi, I have a problem with ubuntu, ever since i switched computers and did: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -xserver-xorg, scrolling became very very slow
[06:45] <earlmred> hmm
[06:45] <MasterShrek> matkix, yes, that last one i sent you, except use vfat instead of ntfs-3g obviously
[06:45] <earlmred> "failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module"
[06:45] <eek_teh_cat> oh, heh k
[06:45] <bosco> Weng, NO OUTPUT
[06:45] <intelikey> RedHeron oh.    ok.   trying to totally blank a disk ?
[06:45] <chronosx> matkix:  after you do the instruction gave by MasterShrek, then type:  sudo mount -a
[06:45] <RedHeron> intelikey, yes.
[06:46] <RedHeron> intelikey: it got given to me and I got told they forgot the password so I'd have to "figure it out" to use it.
[06:46] <adamonline45> Is there an app for creating flash files in Linux?
[06:46] <TheOnlyMerlin> where can I get a wine tutorial for a total wine NOOB?
[06:46] <MasterShrek> !wine | TheOnlyMerlin
[06:46] <ubotu> TheOnlyMerlin: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[06:46] <marupa> MasterShrek, Didn't work.
[06:47] <intelikey> RedHeron have you tried just using    cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda      where hda assumes first ide primary master
[06:47] <matkix> MasterShrek: Thanks! Now I just want to know what you think would be better for large web to server file transfers? FTP, or NFS?
[06:47] <MasterShrek> marupa, umm, sorry, i dont know gnome very well, there should be something around there, maybe in your mouse settings to disable middle clikc to paste things, im pretty sure thats whats happening
[06:47] <intelikey> RedHeron as root of course
[06:47] <earlmred> weird, did init 1, then init 2, works fine.
[06:47] <earlmred> sigh.
[06:47] <RedHeron> intelikey: subbed /dev/hdb and just trying it now.
[06:47] <bosco> meng
[06:48] <eek_teh_cat> MasterShrek: nspluginwrapper says the plugin is not a valid NPAPI plugin
[06:48] <MasterShrek> matkix, are you transferring outside of your subnet?
[06:48] <Weng> bosco: dmesg | less and look around for any mention of ath_hal
[06:48] <bosco> i am having a problem getting my a atheros wireless card to work with ubuntu can anyone help me ?????
[06:48] <intelikey> RedHeron can't use   sudo cat    because the shell has to be owned by root for root to redirrect the output.    just incase you didn't know that.
[06:48] <bosco> Weng,
[06:48] <bosco> srry
[06:48] <MasterShrek> eek_teh_cat, hmm, thats how i did it, let me check on something for you really quick...
[06:48] <matkix> MasterShrek: Yup, its from my colo in atlanta to my network at home.
[06:48] <eek_teh_cat> MasterShrek: sure, thank you
[06:48] <RedHeron> intelikey: I do most hardware-level things as root because it won't allow it otherwise.
[06:48] <MasterShrek> matkix, i would use ftp
[06:49] <intelikey> RedHeron assuming that works,   you should be able to simply partition/format the thing.
[06:49] <RedHeron> intelikey: that would rock! (it's still running)
[06:49] <chronosx> bosco: google about ndiswrapper
[06:49] <Tendervittles> i cannot get ndiswrapper to work
[06:49] <intelikey> RedHeron it will take a while to write that many goose eggs
[06:49] <MasterShrek> eek_teh_cat, try this: nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[06:49] <osmosis_> apt-get upgrade   shows a new  xen-image-2.6.19-4-server  package. How do I figure out what changed before I install it?
[06:50] <matkix> MasterShrek: The best way to configure ftp in Ubuntu server is?
[06:50] <eek_teh_cat> MasterShrek Ok
[06:50] <RedHeron> intelikey: I'll check back in about 6 hours... ;-)
[06:50] <Weng> chronosx: ndiswrapper sucks pretty hard, and the entire point of an Atheros card is prettymuch to avoid having to use it :P
[06:50] <intelikey> :)
[06:50] <MasterShrek> matkix, proftpd is what ive used
[06:50] <MasterShrek> !ftp
[06:50] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[06:50] <MasterShrek> !ftpd
[06:50] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[06:51] <bosco> Meng Nothing poped up
[06:51] <chronosx> Weng: yeah, i knew, if there's no other option, just use it :-)
[06:51] <eek_teh_cat> still the same thing
[06:51] <matkix> MasterShrek: What one comes pre-installed on ubuntu server?
[06:51] <MasterShrek> argh
[06:51] <bosco> Weng, nothing poped up
[06:51] <MasterShrek> matkix, im not sure to be honest
[06:51] <eek_teh_cat> MasterShrek: Hmm. so weird, i can't believe 64bit just can't emulate 32bit programs, or something like that
[06:51] <bosco> Weng, about athoros at leaste
[06:51] <AirstrikeIvanov> Hello everyone, is it possible to install the server edition of Ubuntu off of a Live CD?
[06:51] <MasterShrek> eek_teh_cat, try that command with sudo maybe, but i doubt thats going to work
[06:52] <MasterShrek> AirstrikeIvanov, no
[06:52] <j0hn__> hey, i just installed something and i'm having some problems getting it to work. could somebody please help me?
[06:53] <eek_teh_cat> MasterShrek: I actually think it's something stupid like me not typing it in correctly
[06:53] <Weng> bosco: Is this a PCMCIA board, or miniPCI?
[06:53] <jb0nd38372> j0hn__, What did you install? what kinda problem are you having with it?
[06:53] <chronosx> what's the best gui admin for vsftp? btw, i'm using proftpd because of easier admin tool (gproftpd). is vsftpd really faster than proftpd? i haven't seen any much benchmarks pitting the two
[06:53] <eek_teh_cat> MasterShrek: I just did something simililar with a non existent file and i get the same error
[06:53] <MasterShrek> eek_teh_cat, try: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk linux32 lib32asound2
[06:53] <MasterShrek> eek_teh_cat, then try again
[06:53] <RedHeron> intelikey: what, no "dog" command? ;-)
[06:53] <Tendervittles> Can anyone help me connect to my wireless network? Ubuntu 7.10 WMP54G Linksys wireless NIC
[06:53] <bosco> Weng, it is a acer laptop so i am usuming it is minipci via it being a laptop
[06:54] <RedHeron> System load average: 13.1
[06:54] <RedHeron> System load average: 13.26
[06:54] <Weng> bosco: You've tried using restricted-manager, right? (I can't talk you through that because I'm running a custom kernel and r-m is broken as a result)
[06:54] <RedHeron> 13.32
[06:54] <MasterShrek> eek_teh_cat, apparently its supposed to auto wrap the plugin though, i dont know why its not working... nspluginwrapper -l    give you any output?
[06:54] <tarelerulz> I have other computer with a ftp server on it .  I don't have a router  ,but I do have cat 5 cable to connect them both.  What do I to ftp to the other box?
[06:54] <RedHeron> What is "load average" measuring?
[06:55] <eek_teh_cat> MasterShrek: i'm sure it has something to do with the file not being there, i just checked, but instead informing me of invalid file location it just gives that useless error
[06:55] <bosco> Weng, can you talk me through doing that
[06:55] <Nvrnight> How do I perform the WriteOut after I have edited the file, it says ^O for writeout but what exactly does that mean
[06:55] <astro76> tarelerulz, you will need a crossover cable if you are going straight from NIC to NIC
[06:55] <bosco> Weng, can you talk me through doing that
[06:55] <MasterShrek> Tendervittles, that card is supported in the kernel, if you would have listened you would have it installed already, without messing around with ndiswrapper, which is a crude hack adn should be avoided if possible
[06:55] <Tendervittles> When i set my resolution in Ubuntu to 1680x1050 everything is too big for the screen and wont all fit...that is what my monitor calls for, works fine in 1440
[06:55] <MasterShrek> eek_teh_cat, but the file is there isnt it, you just downloaded it right?
[06:56] <Tendervittles> MasterShrek: listeed to what?
[06:56] <Tendervittles> listened**
[06:56] <MasterShrek> Tendervittles, using the restricted drivers manager to install the card
[06:56] <eek_teh_cat> MasterShrek: it's on my desktop, but not in the usr dir
[06:56] <Weng> bosco: Unfortunately no :( I've never actually seen the thing
[06:56] <Tendervittles> Mastershrek, yes i tried this and it would not work
[06:56] <Tendervittles> mastershrek, and then i checked the boxes you said to check
[06:56] <MasterShrek> eek_teh_cat, extract the files, and move them to /home/user/.mozilla/plugins
[06:56] <j0hn__> jb0nd38372: i'm trying to install cdemu. the website is http://cdemu.sf.net - but a new version forked from them which i downloaded here: http://kabelkaos.net/cdemu/cdemu-vhba/userspace-cdemu-2007-08-23.tar - i extracted that and all those inside of it. installed everything. now i try running cdemud and i get an error saying "failed to open control device /dev/vhba_ctl!"
[06:56] <eek_teh_cat> MasterShrek: ok
[06:56] <astro76> Tendervittles, I believe you were having an issue with apt, you should paste that exact error and try to get that fixed
[06:57] <marupa> Anyone else have any ideas on how to get rid of the problem with my tablet that I'm having?
[06:57] <marupa> It doesn't seem to happen at all when I use a mouse, just my tablet.
[06:57] <tarelerulz> Astro76 how do you tell which is which ? crossover cable or cat 5 ?  I think I have done it with cat 5 cable before ,but that was with windows.   I set this computers ip to static  ,but I don't know  ubuntu
[06:57] <Tendervittles> i cannot paste, i am on another comp because i cannot get online with the ubuntu machine
[06:57] <bosco> Weng so what am i going to do
[06:58] <mahiti> hi, what socket error means
[06:58] <bosco> Weng
[06:58] <MasterShrek> tarelerulz, regular cat5 will have all 8 wires the same on each end
[06:58] <astro76> tarelerulz, unless one of them can auto-detect, if you did it before then it should be ok
[06:58] <j0hn__> jb0nd38372: vhba is one of the things to install with the package in the link above... i did the "sudo make install" and it worked. what else should i have done?
[06:58] <MasterShrek> tarelerulz, crossover will have a few switched, i cant remember which ones exactly
[06:58] <j0hn__> jb0nd38372: do you think you'll be able to help me?
[06:59] <Tendervittles> Master, do you have any other suggestions on getting the restricted drivers manager to work?
[06:59] <Nvrnight> Can someone tell me how to save the change that I have made to the xorg.conf file using nano?
[06:59] <matkix> How do you add a user and set a home directory?
[06:59] <MasterShrek> Tendervittles, that machine must be online to get that working, can you plug it in for like 10 minutes?
[06:59] <\`slushpuppy`\> Hi, I have an issue with scrolling lag on ubuntu
[07:00] <magaio> Does anyone have 1280x800 console working with Intel 945GM (or more specifically, Dell's newer e1505n Ubuntu Laptop)?
[07:00] <RedHeron> What does "load average" measure?
[07:00] <RedHeron> Anyone?
[07:00] <RedHeron> Anyone at all?
[07:00] <bosco> i am having a problem getting my a atheros wireless card to work with ubuntu can anyone help me ?????
[07:00] <Tendervittles> Mastershrek, no i cannot, not at this moment, but when i can plug it in what do i need to do?
[07:00] <astro76> RedHeron, load average explanation: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9001
[07:00] <tarelerulz>  it says cat 5e on it and it has 8 wires with the same collars on each end .  Now I don't know what to do with Ubuntu's part ? any ideas
[07:01] <MasterShrek> Tendervittles, youll need to go to the restricted drivers manager and enable your card, after that it should work just fine
[07:01] <hou5ton> anyone checked out linuxmint?
[07:01] <RedHeron> astro76: I can't open any new programs right now.
[07:01] <Tendervittles> Master, does it get the driver online?
[07:01] <astro76> RedHeron, ok
[07:01] <RedHeron> astro76: load average 18.92
[07:02] <MasterShrek> Tendervittles, essentially, if you want to get technical, it already has the driver, it just needs the firmware off the internet
[07:02] <astro76> RedHeron, type top and see what process is using up the cpu
[07:02] <j0hn__> can somebody please help me? i just installed something and i'm having an issue getting it to work
[07:02] <astro76> !ask | j0hn__
[07:02] <ubotu> j0hn__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:02] <RedHeron> astro76: already know... blanking a HDD
[07:02] <Tendervittles> Master, thank you, i will attempt this tomorrow
[07:02] <rebrain> hi... what does it mean when i get this in terminal: :~$ sudo apt-get install x;       sudo: must be setuid root
[07:03] <Lumpy^> hey.. is rootkit is infecting linux ? i think some of the files in my samba not updating the timestamp while im saving the file...
[07:03] <MasterShrek> rebrain, is your user in the admin group?
[07:03] <bosco> Weng you there
[07:03] <bosco> i am having a problem getting my a atheros wireless card to work with ubuntu can anyone help me ?????
[07:03] <eek_teh_cat> MasterShrek: this is just too frustrating right now, i'm going to work on it later, thanks for the help
[07:03] <MasterShrek> np eek_teh_cat
[07:03] <Tendervittles> Also, 1680x1050 does not work with my ubuntu, everything is too big for the monitor, can anyone help?
[07:03] <MasterShrek> good luck
[07:03] <astro76> Lumpy^, that's a pretty crazy leap to make, your samba problem is probably not due to a rootkit
[07:04] <rebrain> MasterShrek: yeah i am kinda the only user of this computer and i have created this account while installing Ubuntu
[07:04] <LimCore_> MasterShrek: http://rafb.net/p/FNHmQj18.html
[07:04] <astro76> rebrain, what's the output of: ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[07:04] <\`slushpuppy`\> Hi, I have an issue with scrolling lag on ubuntu
[07:04] <rebrain> i also can not get the installer working, auto update finds the new updates but after i click UPDATE it does not make anything.
[07:05] <Tendervittles> slush, are you using the live CD?
[07:05] <marupa> Anyone know how to turn off middle mouse button paste in gnome?
[07:05] <astro76> \`slushpuppy`\, explain?
[07:05] <rebrain> astro76: -rwxr-xr-x 1 rebrain root 91776 2007-06-15 14:49 /usr/bin/sudo
[07:05] <astro76> rebrain, hmm yeah that's definitely not suid root anymore
[07:06] <MasterShrek> LimCore_, hmm, thats really strange, i dont know why it wouldnt be working to be honest with you, im not using ubuntu, but i am using a 64 bit version of a different distro, and thats how i did it
[07:06]  * MasterShrek has to get to bed though, tests tomorrow... :(
[07:06] <\`slushpuppy`\> Alright astro76, I have ubuntu install in my external harddrive. When i transfered to another computer, the graphics didn't work so I did dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver. This solved the graphic problems
[07:06] <rebrain> astro76: so what do i need to do? cuz i got no idea :(
[07:06] <\`slushpuppy`\> But now typing and scolling is slow and laggy
[07:07] <\`slushpuppy`\> Hold on a min astro76 , let me reboot
[07:08] <LimCore_> is it possible to install flash on amd64 7.10?  http://rafb.net/p/FNHmQj18.html
[07:08] <rebrain> astro76: are u still there?
[07:09] <unikon> can tor be installed on ubuntu 7.10
[07:09] <databits> hey can someone here help me figure this sandvine out
[07:09] <astro76> rebrain, to fix it try: sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo
[07:09] <databits> I figure out how to get around the sandvine but I am not sure it is telling me that I need to throw the script in a filie and run it as root
[07:09] <databits> how would I go about doing this ?
[07:10] <subha> hi all
[07:10] <astro76> !hi
[07:10] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:10] <\`slushpuppy`\> Sorry Astro for wasting your time, I checked the retricted drivers and enabled it. Thanks very much for your time!
[07:10] <bosco> can anyone help me out    bosco@bosco:~/Desktop$ sudo modprobe ndiwrapper
[07:10] <bosco> [sudo] password for bosco:
[07:10] <bosco> Sorry, try again.
[07:10] <bosco> [sudo] password for bosco:
[07:10] <bosco> FATAL: Module ndiwrapper not found
[07:10] <astro76> \`slushpuppy`\, no worries ;)
[07:11] <subha> what is the irc channel for dicussing ubuntu security/
[07:11] <marupa> Anyone?  I really need this disabled, I cannot work on pictures if every time I try to draw it tries to open what I last copy/pasted and gives errors.
[07:11] <databits> hey can someone help me out with some simple stuff I am a newbie to linux
[07:11] <databits> I have somthing that I want to run as root
[07:11] <bosco> databits, what do you need help with
[07:11] <marupa> databits, use sudo
[07:11] <rebrain> astro76: "sudo: must be setuid root" shows up again...
[07:11] <astro76> !sudo | databits
[07:11] <ubotu> databits: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:11] <chronosx> bosco: typo error, ndiswrapper.  not ndiwrapper
[07:12] <\`slushpuppy`\> astro76 , is is possible to boot ubuntu on different machines without having to keep reconfiguring?
[07:12] <astro76> rebrain, can I see the output if you run ls -l /usr/bin/sudo again?
[07:12] <beasty_> morning
[07:12] <astro76> \`slushpuppy`\, AFAIK ubuntu is not really set up to auto detect hardware changes on every boot... something like knoppix is
[07:12] <rebrain> astro76: -rwsr-xr-x 1 rebrain root 91776 2007-06-15 14:49 /usr/bin/sudo
[07:12] <bosco> chronosx,  sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[07:12] <bosco> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[07:12] <bosco> bosco@bosco:~/Desktop$
[07:13] <\`slushpuppy`\> ^ I was recommended to change to something like that :D
[07:13] <nyce_> i have so issues setting up a usb audio device
[07:13] <astro76> rebrain, sudo chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo
[07:13] <nyce_> some issues*
[07:13] <databits> I just sent you a msg bosco
[07:13] <subha> how can i authenticate an user while attaching an USB in my system?
[07:14] <databits> did you get it bosco ?
[07:14] <bosco> databits, then i typed one back
[07:14] <databits> I didn't get it for some reason that is weird
[07:14] <databits> either way
[07:14] <bosco> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper ---- module ndiswrapper not found still
[07:14] <rebrain> astro76: the same error. is there any way to just return all the settings to defaults?
[07:14] <astro76> !register | databits bosco
[07:14] <ubotu> databits bosco: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[07:14] <databits> how would I get that file to run ?
[07:15] <astro76> rebrain, oh right sorry, you are trying to use sudo to fix broken sudo
[07:15] <rebrain> astro76: yeah :)
[07:15] <nyce_> Can anyone help me with installing a usb audio device / sound card
[07:15] <Erealz> hey I need to know how to file a bug report correctly what logs to include and all that couse I feel that 7.10 has a lot of bugs. anyone know of a tutorial on the forums or support section of ubuntu.com
[07:15] <Erealz> ?
[07:16] <astro76> rebrain, you will need livecd or boot into recovery mode to fix the ownership on sudo
[07:16] <Erealz> oh by the way I have a launchpad just never have all the info they request sometime
[07:16] <bosco> databits, can you send your message publicly
[07:17] <databits> If you are using Ubuntu or another non-Red Hat Linux derivative, then place the following in a file and execute that file as root.
[07:17] <rebrain> astro76: i got it. should i boot the live OS from CD and click install ??? or should i do something else?
[07:17] <databits> that is what is on the site I am reading this off
[07:18] <databits> http://redhatcat.blogspot.com/2007/09/beating-sandvine-with-linux-iptables.html
[07:18] <databits> trying to get around the sandvine on comcast
[07:18] <databits> how would I go about running the file ?
[07:18] <databits> I take it you just throw everything in a txt file how would you go about running it ?
[07:20] <bosco> databits, what do i do about my wireless
[07:20] <Haru> hi.. is there a way to access internet over ssh?? as in i have a system w/ direct internet access, while another with ssh access to this system
[07:21] <Haru> so i want to access net on the 2nd system using the 1st system over ssh
[07:21] <databits> what problem are you having with your wireless ?
[07:21] <bosco> i am having a problem i have installed ndiswrapper but it is telling me that the module ndiswrapper is not found
[07:22] <databits> couldn't tell you man
[07:22] <databits> noob to the whole linux thing if it was a networking question I could do it not linux though
[07:22] <databits> how do I get the file to run
[07:22] <databits> it is a script
[07:23] <databits> to throw some shit in the iptables
[07:23] <bosco> databits, it just wont turn on at all and i cant access anything with it
[07:23] <bosco> it says module ndiswrapper is not installed when it alredy is
[07:23] <astro76> rebrain, no, if you mount the harddrive in the livecd, then you can chown your sudo on the installed system
[07:23] <databits> wireless card
[07:23] <databits> ?
[07:23] <astro76> rebrain, e.g. once it's mounted sudo /media/disk1/usr/bin/sudo
[07:23] <databits> just a card you are trying to get workin
[07:23] <bosco> databits, yes wireless card
[07:23] <astro76> rebrain, err sudo chown root:root /media/disk1/usr/bin/sudo
[07:23] <bosco> databits, yes
[07:24] <databits> system isn't pickin it up
[07:24] <anton__> Hello, I'm trying to get .flac-files working on xmms...they won't work...why?
[07:24] <databits> well your card isn't going to do anything until your system recognizes it
[07:24] <bosco> databits, no not at all not even that i have ndiswrapper installed evendly
[07:24] <databits> I couldn'lt tell you man
[07:24] <astro76> rebrain, and an easy way to automount it if it doesn't already is to go to system > administration > gnome partition editor
[07:25] <bosco> databits, right i know that i need to get the system to reconigz it
[07:25] <databits> not sure how to do it
[07:25] <databits> but it sounds like your system dosn't knwo where to look for the driver
[07:25] <rebrain> astro76: thanks alot. :) i will try that. later :)
[07:25] <bosco> databits, the system does reconigze it though 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[07:25] <databits> hmm
[07:25] <bosco> databits, lspci output
[07:25] <databits> that is weird
[07:26] <Ademan> there's an environment variable to specify where to look for shared objects right? (similar to the PATH variable)
[07:26] <databits> bosco, do you know how I can get this script file to run ?
[07:26] <df00z> Hey
[07:26] <df00z> what is the "ubuntu way" to blacklist a module?
[07:26] <df00z> i dont want ath_pci or ath_hal to load
[07:26] <bosco> what script file are you talking about
[07:26] <df00z> I want to use ndiswrapper
[07:26] <df00z> I could do it manually, or hack some scripts
[07:26] <df00z> but whats the proper way
[07:26] <databits> http://redhatcat.blogspot.com/2007/09/beating-sandvine-with-linux-iptables.html
[07:27] <astro76> Ademan, I don't think it's in an environment variable... printenv will list all your set variables
[07:27] <databits> I am trying to block all the rst traffic on my torrent port so I can get around the sandvine shit on comcast
[07:27] <Ademan> thanks astro76
[07:27] <databits> it is a file to throw some shit in the iptables
[07:27] <Apropos> Whoah. Quite a few people in here.
[07:27] <databits> it isn't very desciptive
[07:27] <n2diy> ! blacklist | df00z
[07:27] <ubotu> df00z: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[07:27] <bulmer> !language | databits
[07:27] <ubotu> databits: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:28] <databits> just says to throw it in a file and run as root
[07:28] <bosco> databits, do you wanna see if i am a nube or not is that your goal lol
[07:28] <Apropos> Hahah. I don't suppose anyone here knows anything about Compiz? New to Ubuntu and have been arguing with it for a few hours with minimal success.
[07:28] <df00z> Thanks much
[07:28] <databits> bosco, I'm a noob with linux
[07:29] <databits> I am asking you
[07:29] <df00z> n2diy: can i add it to "blacklist" ?
[07:29] <df00z> or do i need to use my_blacklist
[07:29] <n2diy> ! blacklist | df00z
[07:29] <ubotu> df00z: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[07:29] <databits> bosco, do you knwo what to do ?
[07:30] <databits> does anyone know what to do ?
[07:30] <df00z> my_blacklist doesnt exist
[07:30] <databits> seems like it is a pretty simple solution I just don't knwo what I am doing
[07:30] <tritium> df00z: read the instructions you were just given
[07:31] <df00z> I just did..the file doesn't exist...do I create it? or can I use blacklist?
[07:31] <n2diy> df00z: use my nick, if you want me to see your replies.
[07:31] <databits> brosco, ?
[07:31] <bosco> databits, i dont know either on that one srry
[07:31] <bosco> databits, do you know how to fix my wireless
[07:32] <databits> brosco, ugh thanks
[07:32] <rico> Ive installed Virtual Box but cant find how to start it lol
[07:32] <bulmer> databits-> yes just put that script on a file and make the executable then run it as root
[07:33] <df00z> thanks
[07:33] <databits> how do you make it exe ?
[07:33] <databits> sudo chmod +x/
[07:33] <bulmer> databits in linux world, it is not called exe you change to mode of the file to eXecutable
[07:34] <databits> bulmer, sudo chmod +x
[07:34] <databits> that correct
[07:34] <adamonline45> Is there a good vector graphics app?  I know I heard it mentioned here before, that all you need is GIMP and ________, and you've got all you need!
[07:34] <pawan> hi
[07:34] <tritium> databits: you need to follow that with the filename
[07:34] <bulmer> databits you have to include the file name after +x
[07:34] <tritium> databits: type "man chmod" for details
[07:34] <databits> bulmer, so sudo chmod +x /etc/X11/filename
[07:34] <databits> +x tells it to be exe
[07:34] <bulmer> databits i suggest putting that script in your home dir not at /etc/X11
[07:35] <perfector> adamonline45: try using inkscape
[07:35] <databits> ok thanks bulmer
[07:35] <databits> appreciate
[07:35] <pawan> hello
[07:35] <tarelerulz> How do you ftp to other computer use cat 5 .  I   have wireless and eth port  .   How do i tell it which one to use
[07:35] <adamonline45> perfector: I'll check it out, thank you 8)
[07:35] <rico> how do i start a program thats not in the applications list?
[07:36] <perfector> rico: from the terminal..
[07:36] <rico> what do i type?
[07:36] <tritium> rico: also, from Alt-F2
[07:36] <bulmer> rico  /path/to/file  -"options here"
[07:36] <perfector> rico: the program name
[07:36] <friendlysys> after you make changes to your zone files, how do you make it affect changes immediately?  just restart named ?
[07:36] <n2diy> rico, the program's name
[07:37] <perfector> rico: what r u trying to start?
[07:37] <tarelerulz> in the past I used windows and I set my lan port to an static and I forget what protocol I used .  Anyone
[07:37] <rico> virtual box
[07:38] <perfector> rico: type virtual and hit the tab key twice to give u the names os all the apps that start with virtual
[07:38] <databits> what is the command to delete a file in terminal ?
[07:38] <tritium> databits: rm
[07:38] <databits> sudo del /blah/bah ?
[07:38] <n2diy> tarelerulz: can you ping your target?
[07:38] <databits> rm
[07:38] <databits> thanks
[07:38] <tarelerulz> I will see if I can ping it
[07:38] <rico> in what program perfector?
[07:38] <tritium> databits: please try to fit your replies on one line.  No need to hit enter repeatedly
[07:38] <Lumpy^> how cna i remove rootkit from linux? is that possible without to do reinstall?
[07:38] <bosco> databits, rm = remove
[07:39] <perfector> rico: r u using gnome as ur desktop
[07:39] <tritium> Lumpy^: what makes you think you have a rootkit?
[07:39] <rico> Ubuntu default, so yes gnome
[07:39] <rico> i found it
[07:39] <Lumpy^> ive scanned my linux with the tool
[07:39] <Lumpy^> and its says im infected
[07:39] <tarelerulz> n2diy , I can not ping my target
[07:39] <rico> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'virtualbox-ose' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[07:39] <perfector> rico : find the icon called "Terminal"
[07:39] <tritium> Lumpy^: I find that highly unlikely
[07:39] <Lumpy^> why?
[07:40] <rico> so i have to uninstall it in the admin section, 1 sec
[07:40] <n2diy> tarelerulz: are YOU running a firewall?
[07:40] <perfector> rico: pls use my nick in the line if u r conversing with me.
[07:41] <rico> sorry perfector
[07:41] <tarelerulz> I do not think so unless my xbox has an firewall and as far as I know it don't nor does this computer unless that is one of the default set up for Ubuntu 7.10
[07:41] <rico> perfector - ok, its installing in the add/remove section
[07:41] <rico> ive got abit to learn :P
[07:42] <perfector> rico: u mean to say "terminal is installing"??
[07:42] <Lumpy^> i got a problem that when i save a file it wont update the timestamp of it, as a result in xp i cannot see the changes of the file unless i close and open the file
[07:42] <rico> perfector - no, i mean its installing from "add/remove", not using terminal
[07:42] <n2diy> tarelerulz: use my nick in your replies, or they will get lost in the traffic. Can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:42] <sunogbaga> Lumpy^: use touch
[07:42] <perfector> rico: whats installing?
[07:42] <rico> and it works, yay :D
[07:43] <rico> Perfector - Virtual box
[07:43] <rico> Perfector - it works
[07:43] <perfector> rico: cool thats gr8
[07:43] <Lumpy^> yeah but i use samba
[07:43] <Lumpy^> and i dont want every time i save a file to do touch
[07:44] <databits> bulmer, I did sudo chmod +x /home/databits/Documents/torrentfix.fix
[07:44] <rico> Perfector - thanks for the help :)
[07:44] <databits> bulmer, then it went back to the prompt didn't say anything what do I do now ?
[07:45] <perfector> rico: your welcome
[07:45] <tarelerulz> N2diy ,  I am sorry for that.  I normally put my lan port to static 192.168.x.xxx  and subnet to 255.255.255 and I leave the defaut gateway blank .  ftp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>on the command line
[07:46] <tarelerulz> I get nothing
[07:46] <n2diy> tarelerulz: use my nick in your replies, or they will get lost in the traffic. Can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:46] <rico> Perfector - how do i register on IRC so i can PM people etc
[07:46] <perfector> rico: u mean to say u r not registered??
[07:46] <sunogbaga> Lumpy^: is this the same for all the programs? or.. are the workstations in time sync?
[07:47] <bulmer> databits sudo  /path/to/file
[07:47] <rico> The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect..
[07:47] <tarelerulz> n3diy it says  unknown host when I ping  ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:47] <rico> rico - i got that message
[07:47] <n2diy> tarelerulz: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:47] <rico> lol, i mean perfector
[07:47] <rico> perfector - no im not registered in IRC
[07:47] <tarelerulz> N2diy I can not ping it
[07:48] <perfector> rico: type "/msg NickServ help" for all the options
[07:49] <tarelerulz> N2diy , I can ping the ip of what I set my lan port too.
[07:49] <databits> bulmer, this isn't working for some reason I got t to do the terminal but for some reason it isn't working
[07:49] <bulmer> databits you have to understand what the script does..not sure if you understood it or not
[07:50] <rico> REGISTER commando
[07:50] <rico> bah
[07:50] <earlmred> oh man
[07:50] <earlmred> i forgot how annoying twinview mode was
[07:50] <earlmred> i'll have to reconfigure so they're separate screens
[07:50] <earlmred> sigh
[07:50] <n2diy> tarelerulz: ok, weird, you should be able to ping your own box, <IP_ADDRESS>. Can you ping outside your LAN?
[07:51] <databits> the script is putting entries into the iptables to block rst traffic on my torrent port ... I am not able to upload at all for my torrents trying to get around that sandvine bull
[07:51] <rico> how do i change my nick so I can register, Rico is taken
[07:51] <bulmer> databits-> do you know how to check if you have firewall rules?
[07:51] <databits> no how do I do that
[07:51] <arooni-mobile> if i have 4GB of ram... do i need a 64  bit version of ubuntu to see/use it alL?
[07:52] <AprilHare> wow http://www.mslinux.org/
[07:52] <kuerva> hello
[07:52] <bulmer> databits google for iptables tutorial  i dont have the time to explain right now
[07:52] <AprilHare> hello kuerva
[07:52] <kuerva> spanish people??
[07:53] <n2diy> ! sp | kuerva
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <AprilHare> lol
[07:53] <bulmer> !es | kuerva
[07:53] <ubotu> kuerva: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[07:53] <n2diy> ! es | kuerva
[07:53] <tarelerulz> N2diy  , have my xbox via cat 5 and I can ping something called Link encap:Local Loopback which is :<IP_ADDRESS> and I can ping eth0 which is my lan port ,but not the xbox
[07:54] <rico> Perfector - I started Virtual box and got this error message "The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect.."
[07:54] <n2diy> tarelerulz: xbox?!?, cool.
[07:55] <rico> Perfector - how do i fix that
[07:55] <n2diy> tarelerulz: what does ping -b tell you?
[07:55] <arooni-mobile> im having trouble with getting ram installed on my asus p5n-e sli.... basically it was working great when i had 2gb of crucial pc6400 memory.  i bought a 2gb pack from frys today a-tech pc 6400.... and every configuration i can think of fails memtest  (has > 1 error) ... and sometimes computer just shuts down........ ideas?
[07:55] <tarelerulz> N2diy I can ping the xbox ip  I was doing ping wrong I think
[07:56] <hwilde> Hello I am running apache on a machine with an internal and external IP Address.  I can ssh to the machine on both interfaces, but sometimes the external apache cannot be accessed.  I have specified both interface in ports.conf but that did not fix it.  Any suggestions?
[07:56] <n2diy> tarelerulz: ok, so if you can ping the xbox, you should be able to ftp to it.
[07:57] <tarelerulz> N2diy , I can ping the xbox .  Mybe I am doing ftp wrong . not the right format.  I did this ftp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and I get unknow host
[07:58] <sunogbaga> tarelerulz: wrong format
[07:58] <n2diy> tarelerulz: try "ftp <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:58] <sunogbaga> tarelerulz: ftp host.com then ul be prompted for username and password
[07:59] <perfector> rico: im not sure i have not used much of virtual box...
[07:59] <odinriko> Gcc is unable to create an executable file....what does this mean?
[07:59] <n2diy> tarelerulz: sunogbaga, yes, exactly
[07:59] <perfector> rico: im not sure i have not used much of virtual box...
[08:00] <Qaxi> Hi, I have (and love) to make and finish project to place 130 PC with Linux onto our corporate network.
[08:00] <Qaxi> Can you point me to information sources about *buntu in enterprise environment?
[08:00] <Qaxi> Main points of interest: IRC or mailing groups to discuss souch topic, HowTo make custom instalation, automaticaly adding packages, restrict user changes to OpenOffice, Thunderbird, Firefox ...
[08:00] <tarelerulz> n2diy I did what you said ftp <IP_ADDRESS> and it says No route to host
[08:00] <hwilde> odinriko, sudo apt-get install g++
[08:00] <odinriko> hwilde: isn't that part of build essential?
[08:00] <wallabee> what is the best solution to install a  telnet server?
[08:00] <n2diy> tarelerulz: and you can ping it?
[08:00] <odinriko> g++ is already the newest version.
[08:00] <rico> Perfector - fixed it, i went to user and added the virtual box group it asked for then signed out and back in and it works :)
[08:01] <perfector> rico: thats gr8
[08:01] <rico> Perfector - is there a shortcut key to switch between the 2 desks on the bottome right?
[08:01] <bulmer> Qaxi-> you may want to use suse or fedora for enterprise, they include nice tools for enterprise management
[08:01] <hwilde> odinriko, are you root
[08:02] <odinriko> hwilde: via sudo, ya
[08:02] <perfector> rico: ctrl+alt+left/right arrow key
[08:02] <hwilde> rico, try 3ddesktop
[08:02] <n2diy> tarelerulz: and you can ping it?
[08:02] <tarelerulz> n2diy I can't find it says this From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[08:02] <hwilde> odinriko, i had that error and i reinstalled g++ and that worked.
[08:03] <rico> perfector - thanks :)
[08:03] <sunogbaga> tarelerulz: that means ur not connected to that host
[08:03] <rico> hwilde - how do i do 3ddesktop?
[08:03] <tarelerulz> N2diy , I don't walls see such.  most the time when it says unknow host that mean I am not connected
[08:03] <hwilde> rico, search for it in synaptic.  you can map it to a key so you can scroll through the desktops like a pictureviewer thing
[08:03] <tarelerulz> I have the xbox connected via a cat 5 cord
[08:04] <tarelerulz> I can't be more connect then that
[08:04] <sunogbaga> tarelerulz: not literally
[08:04] <n2diy> tarelerulz: ok, so you have a cable problem, or something isn't configed right.
[08:04] <n2diy> tarelerulz: Can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:05] <tarelerulz> N2diy ,what do I need. I have an ip static , sub net and default gate way which is blank . I will ping that
[08:05] <sunogbaga> tarelerulz: try this sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:06] <hwilde> i'm sure his interfaces file is not setup right
[08:06] <rico> hwilde - what do i type in the search to bring it up, desktop brought up too much :p
[08:06] <tarelerulz> Sunogbaga, will I not lose wireless if I do that?
[08:06] <sunogbaga> tarelerulz: try give us the result
[08:06] <hwilde> rico, duh what are you searching for.. . 3ddesktop
[08:06] <tendervittles> hi
[08:06] <n2diy> tarelerulz: Can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:07] <sunogbaga> tarelerulz: it might get reconfigured
[08:07] <boguh> hi, can i create an encrypted partition on an md device?
[08:07] <tarelerulz> n2diy I can ping that .
[08:08] <n2diy> tarelerulz: Can you ping your router?
[08:09] <tarelerulz> N2diy I don't have a router . I just have the xbox and this computer connected via a Cat 5 cord .
[08:09] <sunogbaga> tarelerulz: how many workstations do you have?
[08:09] <n2diy> tarelerulz: Ok, nic card to nic card?
[08:10] <Qaxi> bulmer: Free Fedora and Suse are not an option, they have too short support, *buntu 8.04 LTS would be better
[08:10] <Qaxi> I konow CentOS is option, but the Desktop part of RHEL is ... rubish ... I was born as RedHat guy (and I am still), I know whart I am saying.
[08:10] <sunogbaga> tarelerulz: that's supposed to be a crossover connection if you have a nic to nic..
[08:10] <n2diy> tarelerulz: Ok, nic card to nic card?
[08:10] <sunogbaga> tarelerulz: is that a crossover connection?
[08:11] <n2diy> tarelerulz: If you want help, answer my question, nic card to nic card?
[08:12] <tendervittles> i cannot get my grapgics card to work with ubuntu, nor my wireless network card, can anyone help me?
[08:12] <bulmer> Qaxi-> too short for support? if you pay em, support will be continous
[08:13] <rico> hwilde - 3d desktop doesnt come up
[08:13] <tendervittles> when i try to enable it in my Restricted drivers manager i get the error: The software source for the package
[08:13] <tendervittles>    xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:13] <tarelerulz> I put the defalt gateway as being what the xbox has and changed the ip and reset the xbox
[08:13] <tendervittles>  is not enabled.
[08:14] <hwilde> rico, oh i am back in feisty land sry
[08:14] <OsDigital6542> hola
[08:14] <OsDigital6542> hola
[08:15] <NineTeen67Comet> Hiall .. Besides Tigerdirect, newegg, geeks.com does anyone know a place that I could order a "decent" mobo/cpu/ram set?
[08:17] <CaRtz> could anyone suggest a good mp3 player?
[08:18] <tarelerulz> Thanks all for yourself . I am off to ftp a movie to my other computer and watch it
[08:18] <NineTeen67Comet> iAudio A2, X5, U2 .. Cowon makes them ..
[08:19] <CaRtz> oh, i mean for ubuntu.  Beep Media player .. there are tons, just play with them and pick the one you like .. VLC is very versatile but ugly.
[08:20] <regius> ping, do you need antispyware software in ubuntu?
[08:21] <tarelerulz> VLC is good on files I would not think anything plays like img files which is some iso format .  mplayer can play about anything else
[08:21] <Myrtti> regius: no
[08:22] <Myrtti> regius: sorry,  need more coffee
[08:22] <ping> yea i want this stuff called super anti spy ware professional its what i had before i switched if there is something better let me know but i would like to have some reguardless
[08:22] <tarelerulz> Totem is great for general media player . like the playlist features like repeat
[08:23] <regius> ping, thats a windows problem. In linux you don't need a "super mega anti spyware pro killer" program
[08:24] <ping> oh really can you explain why i just switched like in the last couple of days and am trying to learn all i can
[08:25] <tarelerulz> Ping have fun with learning Linux.  This is great place to start.  I  found out about irc months ago ,but I wish I would have found it in the start .
[08:25] <rico> good thing about Ubuntu, no - little protection needed
[08:25] <rico> Ubuntu/Linux
[08:25] <regius> ping, there is no spyware out there
[08:25] <n2diy> ! ubotu | troll
[08:25] <ubotu> troll: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:25] <ping> what is irc
[08:26] <arooni-mobile> my core2duo is running at 68* C... is that too hot?
[08:26] <NineTeen67Comet> ping: you are in IRC .. ;)
[08:26] <rico> lol
[08:26] <earlmred> hmm, i'm trying to create an array with mdadm, and i'm getting the following on my drives: mdadm: Cannot open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busy
[08:26] <earlmred> any ideas? they aren't mounted...
[08:26] <ping> oh ok sorry one of my friends helped alot but went really fast and explained some but not all of what was going on sorry didn't know
[08:27] <wroklife> how to configure network with just an ip and subnet and gateway plz help
[08:27] <CaRtz> sunogbaga: thanks
[08:27] <Terrasque> wroklife: ifconfig <eth> <ip> netmask <netmask> ; route add default gw <gw>
[08:28] <whabo> is there a book for command lines in linux (general) .. i would love to learn most of them .. instead of comming back and forth for command lines.... THANK YOU
[08:28] <wroklife> terrasque :tried it but i have 2 gigalan on my board and also it is not accepting the satatic ip
[08:29] <lespea> http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8478
[08:29] <lespea> (that's for whabo)
[08:29] <DoHi> anyone here know how to kill a GRUB?
[08:29] <hangthedj> whabo, there is a pretty good book called wicked shell scripts, and by writing these shell scripts you will get  very familiar with the command line
[08:29] <DoHi> I need it REMOVED
[08:29] <Spartan-X> Kill grub you say
[08:29] <DoHi> yes
[08:29] <Terrasque> wroklife: it have worked in all situations for me earlier :)
[08:29] <Qaxi> bulmer: I need not payd support, here is 10 guys which know Linux, it is enought for 1000 PCs
[08:29] <whabo> thx
[08:29] <mavi-> DoHi: you need the windows loader back?
[08:29] <DoHi> PM please
[08:29] <Spartan-X> i don't think you can kill grub as it's a bootloader
[08:29] <wroklife> terrassque: i guess its not working for me
[08:29] <whabo> thank you guys ill look for both .... THANK YOU
[08:29] <DoHi> I need a GRUB GONE
[08:30] <n2diy> whabo: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[08:30] <DoHi> deleted no longer here
[08:30] <mavi-> DoHi: then you cant boot your computer
[08:30] <DoHi> well not really
[08:30] <mavi-> DoHi: you need a boot loader, either grub or the windows one
[08:30] <wroklife> terrasque i cant even use my cabenet from ubuntu
[08:30] <sunogbaga> DoHi: theres lilo
[08:30] <DoHi> well how do I get the windows one back?
[08:30] <DoHi> I have formatted the drive a bunch of times
[08:30] <earlmred> WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.
[08:30] <earlmred> get that from fdisk as well.
[08:30] <earlmred> hmmm
[08:30] <DoHi> that obviously doesn't work
[08:31] <mavi-> DoHi: find a windows disk, boot to cmd and type "fdisk /mbr"
[08:31] <DoHi> tried that
[08:31] <DoHi> didn't work
[08:31] <Terrasque> DoHi: start winxp recovery console and run fixmbr and fixboot
[08:31] <sunogbaga> DoHi: use the windows cd,. choose rescue mode, type fixmbr
[08:31] <erUSUL> DoHi: boot with the windows cd into the recovery console and do 'fixmbr'
[08:31] <Spartan-X> i would not fdisk the mbr
[08:31] <DoHi> did that
[08:31] <Spartan-X> as the bootloader will be removed
[08:31] <DoHi> it didn't work
[08:31] <earlmred> hmm
[08:31] <Spartan-X> first what os (s) do you have installled
[08:31] <Qaxi> bulmer: at least RHEL has no tools for limiting user changes to OpenOffice, Thunderbird, Firefox. So I am looking for opinions and experienced admins.
[08:31] <earlmred> that error is only supposed to come up if other partitions are mounted on that disk
[08:31] <DoHi> I will try again if that's the only idea
[08:31] <earlmred> but nothing is mounted
[08:31] <mavi-> Spartan-X: fdisk /mbr replaces the mbr with windows bootloader
[08:32] <mavi-> like fixmbr does
[08:32] <Spartan-X> mavi-: sorry not much of a windows user :D
[08:32] <erUSUL> DoHi: if it didn't work complain to microsoft not here ;P
[08:32] <sunogbaga> DoHi: that's the solution,.
[08:32] <lespea> DoHi you could boot with knoppix and use dd to null boot sector
[08:32] <DoHi> no my issue is... complicated
[08:32] <sunogbaga> DoHi: where'd you install GRUB?
[08:33] <DoHi> i want the grub gone so I can start again
[08:33] <DoHi> I'll try fixmbr? and see what happens now
[08:33] <sunogbaga> DoHi: well, wherever GRUB is., just fixmbr
[08:33] <DoHi> I currently get an error 17
[08:34] <lespea> dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/{harddrive} bs=512 count=1
[08:34] <erUSUL> DoHi: you have to replace grub with something a null boot sector is a dead disk
[08:34] <Terrasque> DoHi: if yo do dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/<harddisk> and let that run for a while, everything on the disk will be overwritten by 0's
[08:34] <DoHi> yeah I tried installing UBUNTU and it still came up with my OLD GRUB
[08:34] <lespea> Terrasque: that's why you go bs=512 count=1
[08:34] <earlmred> if i change /boot/grub/menu.lst do i need to re-run grub-install ?
[08:34] <lespea> just erases the boot sector
[08:34] <lespea> earlmred: no
[08:34] <erUSUL> earlmred: nope
[08:35] <earlmred> k thanks
[08:35] <Terrasque> lespea: I know, but sometimes windows act weirdly if the disk is not as it expects, ive noticed :p
[08:35] <lukasl> hi, I'm trying to get files on/off my USB mp3 player but it doesn't work, can somebody help me?
[08:36] <sunogbaga> lukasl: how are you doing it?
[08:36] <lukasl> I just plug in the player in the USB connector and I expect to see some popup that tells me it's connected.
[08:36] <lukasl> instead in dmesg, I see messages like [ 1542.156000] usb 2-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 12
[08:36] <lukasl> [ 1542.564000] usb 2-2: device not accepting address 12, error -71
[08:37] <Kr0ntab> lukasl, what type/model is it?
[08:40] <hwilde> lukasl, it should create device /dev/media/USB   or similar
[08:41] <hangthedj> unless its an mtp device
[08:41] <DoHi> cheers ppl
[08:42] <DoHi> off to screw up my boot sector
[08:42] <simion314> hi, i am searching for mono 1.2.5 .deb packae,  do you know where i can find more .deb packages ? , i tried getdeb
[08:43] <DoHi> you actually have been very helpful
[08:43] <DoHi> I may get it right this time
[08:43] <some_idiot> how do i find out which package provided /usr/bin/ld ?
[08:43] <lukasl> Hmm
[08:43] <lukasl> sunogbaga, sorry I got disconnected
[08:44] <lukasl> sunogbaga, I just insert the MP3 player into an USB slot and expect to get some popup. Instead I get messages like [ 1542.156000] usb 2-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 12
[08:44] <lukasl> [ 1542.564000] usb 2-2: device not accepting address 12, error -71
[08:44] <lukasl>  in demsg
[08:44] <lukasl> dmesg even
[08:44] <hangthedj> lukasl, can you find the device if you do lsusb?
[08:45] <honk_> does anyone have widescreen 1280x800 framebuffer console working with Intel 945GM?
[08:45] <earlmred> has anyone ever seen this from mdadm before? "device or resource busy" for a partition that isn't mounted?
[08:46] <lukasl> hangthedj, nope, I see Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 and that three times
[08:46] <lukasl> for Bus 001, Bus 002 and Bus 003
[08:46] <hangthedj> lukasl, i have an mtp mp3 player and dmesg gives me accepting address 8, error -71
[08:46] <AgentHeX> is there a program that can flash LCD pixels quickly to fix dead/stuck pixels?
[08:46] <hangthedj> lukasl, what kind of mp3 player is it?
[08:47] <thalita> #jakarta
[08:47] <lukasl> it's just an el-cheapo 1GB player, brandless. FYI, it works on my Debian server.
[08:47] <hwilde> lukasl, there is nothing in /media/USB ?
[08:47] <lukasl> could it be the USB hardware of this PC is too old somehow?
[08:48] <lukasl> hwilde - nope.
[08:48] <alecwh> How do I install the OpenGL Python bindings?
[08:49] <thalita> thalita
[08:49] <hangthedj> lukasl, just for fun do you have libmtp installed?
[08:49] <hangthedj> or does it show up in rhythmbox?
[08:50] <lukasl> lukasl@nova:~$ dpkg -l|grep mtp
[08:50] <lukasl> ii  libmtp6                                    0.2.1-0ubuntu3
[08:50] <lukasl> so yeah libmtp is installed.
[08:50] <thalita> #jammaah
[08:51] <lukasl> it doesn't show up in rhythmbox
[08:51] <hangthedj> if you do ls /dev/sd*, is there more than sda like maybe sdb?
[08:51] <thalita> hi
[08:52] <lukasl> there are none.
[08:52] <Terrasque> lukasl: does dmesg say anything when you plug it in?
[08:52] <hangthedj> maybe its just an el-cheapo 1 gig mp3 player :p
[08:52] <hwilde> yeah it is not recognized as a file system basically
[08:52] <hwilde> otherwise it would mount
[08:52] <cawaker> anyone think to check if that particular player needs a specific kernel module loaded? not everything is included in the stock kernel
[08:52] <hwilde> but if it works in Debian you just need that package
[08:53] <lukasl> Terrasque, yup, it says things like [ 2247.608000] usb 2-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 14
[08:53] <lukasl> [ 2247.728000] usb 2-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[08:53] <lukasl> [ 2247.952000] usb 2-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[08:53] <hwilde> in Debian do lsmod and see what module it is using
[08:53] <hwilde> then install that package
[08:54] <cawaker> exactly what i was thinking hwilde
[08:55] <lukasl> Hmm
[08:55] <wroklife> terrasque I tried it man still the problem persists........
[08:56] <alecwh> I'm having trouble getting WPA wireless support to work with my Dell latitude D630. Can someone help?
[08:56] <Yaznaki> emm, seems everyone in the fedora channel is ideling, anyone here know anything about sticking fedora 8 ppc on a PS3 and getting the error message "Attribute error: device instant has no attribute 'pcidom'"
[08:56] <ubunt1> how can I auto enter the system in text mode
[08:56] <zzaza> hi all
[08:59] <Inverse> quick hardware question,  for my RAM timings  is 5-5-5-15   or 5-5-5-9   faster?
[09:00] <wroklife> can anyone help with configuring a net connection
[09:00] <astro76> Inverse, ask in ##hardware , but smaller is faster
[09:00] <ubunt1> can any one help me?
[09:00] <lukasl> It's kind of hard to accept that something as desktoppy as plugging in an MP3 player in the USB port would work without a problem on Debian but not on Ubuntu.
[09:00] <Inverse> astro76, thanks
[09:01] <sunogbaga> wroklife: what's wrong?
[09:01] <wroklife> sunogbaga i have a cablenet connectio with a static ip and a gateway and netmask as <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:01] <df00z> Hey
[09:02] <df00z> are there ubuntu SVN or very up to date packages available for ubuntu?
[09:02] <wroklife> cant configre to get to the internet ......i tried ifconfig stiil
[09:02] <df00z> I'm trying to avoid compiling things from source as much as possible
[09:02] <astro76> !hardy | df00z
[09:02] <ubotu> df00z: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:02] <ter2008> olaa
[09:02] <df00z> but the version 7.10 uses is months old
[09:02] <Apropos> AGH. Anyone have any idea how to fix the Mesa issue with the graphics driver?
[09:02] <mips> I need help with LVM
[09:03] <Apropos> Nothing I've tried will make it read as ATI
[09:03] <df00z> Are there backports for 7.10?
[09:03] <arooni__> i recently upgraded my ram from 2GB => 4GB.... when i run top... it says 3.9GB of swap is unused.... when i originally partitioned, i think my swap partition is only 2GB... is this gonna be a problem?  i'm thinking the OS thinks it has 3.9GB of swap to write to, but it only has 2GB... ideas?
[09:03] <maxsoft> morning all. I'm configuring SAMBA. how to 'share' on more network interfaces? how to specify mode than 1 ip class in "remote browse sync" paramter? thank you.
[09:03] <Budda|> I just installed Ubuntu 7.10, and I'm having some troubles with my wireless networking. It conneectes to the network for about 5 or 10 minutes, then just randomly disconnects, and won't reconnect until I restart the Pc. Anyone know why?
[09:03] <Budda|> connects*
[09:03] <TiJay> hi i need help. i'm trying to install DLink DCS110 Webcam
[09:03] <astro76> df00z, you can enable backports in Software Sources
[09:03] <indraveni> if I am creating a debian package which need to overwrite  a file created by any other package, then I am facing a problem, like, couldnot overwrite the file alacarte.mo creating by alacarte package.
[09:03] <TiJay> and it doesn't recongize it
[09:03] <TiJay> Any ideas?
[09:03] <indraveni> how can I remove his conflict ?
[09:04] <TiJay> DSB110 to be more exact
[09:04] <astro76> indraveni, try asking in #ubuntu-motu
[09:04] <mips> Anyone use LVM or know how to use it ???
[09:05] <indraveni> thankyou astro76
[09:05] <Budda|> I just installed Ubuntu 7.10, and I'm having some troubles with my wireless networking. It connects to the network for about 5 or 10 minutes, then just randomly disconnects, and won't reconnect until I restart the Pc. Anyone know why?
[09:07] <zzaza> any one here has ever used a usb mic
[09:07] <ubunt1> hai
[09:07] <ubajaz> Budda|: That happened to me a few times. Using a Linksys WUSB54GS. Has been stable for 16 days now though. Not sure how to troubleshoot it, because it also made lsusb hang indefinitely.
[09:07] <df00z> astro76: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-backports/ I don't see any package for mplayer here?
[09:07] <astro76> df00z, that's likely
[09:08] <df00z> Any idea if there are packages for mplayer that are more up to date? like SVN weeklies or something?
[09:10] <arooni__> id like some feedback about getting ram installed on my asus p5n-e sli.... basically it was working great when i had 2gb of crucial pc6400 memory.  i bought a 2gb pack from frys today a-tech pc 6400.... and every configuration i can think of fails memtest  (has > 1 error) ... and sometimes computer just shuts down........ ok anyways, so i found a config that boots up and lets me run.... but top reports that 3.5 of 3.6 gb is used, b
[09:10] <arooni__> ut the system monitor says only 472MB of memory is used.  .... what should i do?
[09:11] <df00z> astro76: ? why was it likely, anyway?
[09:11] <hwilde> arooni__, you should buy crucial memory duh
[09:12] <astro76> df00z, there's really not that many backports and not unless for a good reason... is there a reason you need a mplayer version newer than gutsy's?
[09:12] <cawaker> well 1, you went to Frys, 2 your mobo might not support the amount you have
[09:12] <hwilde> there is a reason it costs more :  bc it works
[09:12] <df00z> astro76: threaded h264 support, etc
[09:12] <df00z> they're always doing updates
[09:12] <Inverse> try BUFFALO RAM its great
[09:13] <arooni__> hwilde, well i cant get it ultra cheap at frys... plus atech is listed as an accepta ble memory from my asus mobo manual
[09:13] <df00z> I can compile it from scratch..but like
[09:13] <astro76> df00z, well if you want to remain bleeding edge, get the source from mplayer and compile... if you plan on doing this for lots of things, you might consider a different distro that is not time-based releases
[09:13] <cawaker> honestly, i've used frys ram too, its usually fine, but not perfect, and check your mobo specs, it might not support 4gig
[09:13] <df00z> astro76: can't mplayer break when ubuntu updates?  like, library dependencies and such
[09:13] <hwilde> arooni__, you bought cheap ram and now it doesn't work and you wonder what is the problem... buy good ram ok
[09:14] <arooni__> cawaker, mobo suppots up to 8gb
[09:14] <astro76> df00z, sure
[09:14] <The_K> Newegg.com is the best choice, if you are willing to wait for shipping
[09:14] <df00z> Yeah..i want to avoid that -_-
[09:14] <Budda|> ubajaz: So theres nothing I can do? But keep restarting?
[09:14] <arooni__> should memtest 86+ succeed with no errors ?  are some memory errors acceptable?
[09:14] <hwilde> no errors!!
[09:15] <astro76> df00z, you can't have it both ways, if you want stability, you use a distro which has discrete releases..  if you want bleeding edge, you sacrifice the tested stability of a distro release
[09:15] <The_K> you can still use the memory if it comes up with one or two errors, but there is no point
[09:15] <The_K> if you just purchased it, return it or use it as credit for an upgrade
[09:15] <astro76> df00z, maybe check out gentoo
[09:15] <astro76> df00z, or archlinux
[09:15] <df00z> I was running gentoo, I found myself compiling stuff outside portage, because it's not always up to date, even ~x86
[09:15] <arooni__> hwilde, what happens if you get errors
[09:15] <Inverse> if the memory is bad take it back to the store and get a refund
[09:15] <df00z> So my system would always rot over time, heh
[09:15] <arooni__> i can take it back no problem
[09:16] <astro76> df00z, so if you found a distro that was completely up to date on every piece of software, what would you waste your time on? :p
[09:16] <Inverse> take it back and get some better stuff, I recommend BUFFALO  i have 4GB of their ddr2 800mhz  running at 1023Mhz with no problems at all
[09:17] <arooni__> should i try to tweak the speed or voltage?
[09:17] <hwilde> arooni__, if you get errors you go buy good ram
[09:17] <arooni__> before returning
[09:17] <The_K> Crucial is also pretty decent
[09:17] <The_K> do NOT touch the voltage
[09:17] <arooni__> going to frys is about an hour trip at minimum
[09:17] <df00z> astro: if I make a custom deb for mplayer, and say, it needs libasound.so.2.0.0, and synaptic updates libasound down the road
[09:17] <hwilde> So buy the right ram the first time you can't skimp on cheap ram!
[09:17] <df00z> will it uninstal mplayer, or warn me somehow?
[09:17] <Inverse> just take it back arooni, dont waste your money on cheap hardware it will burn you in the end
[09:17] <hwilde> you can save money on other parts but your ram is bad your system is dead
[09:17] <The_K> if you are having issues at stock voltage and timing, messing with them won't fix anything
[09:18] <arooni__> ok this is great feedback
[09:18] <cawaker> yeah make fun of me, but i buy Apple hardware for a reson
[09:18] <Inverse> lol at apple
[09:18] <juststarting> #linux
[09:18] <Inverse> did apple get anything faster than 667Mhz yet?
[09:18] <The_K> As an ex Apple tech, they used to send us three or four bad mainboards a week.
[09:19] <The_K> however... their shipping was overnight and they eventually got us the right part.
[09:19] <cawaker> gee 3 or 4? vs the 10 or 20 i have to send back of dells monthly for my job?
[09:19] <The_K> 3 or 4 for ONE machine
[09:19] <The_K> not to mention the blanket recall we had to handle
[09:20] <ubajaz> Isn't the volume of received motherboards relevant? I see no numbers.
[09:20] <df00z> astro76: if I make a package for mplayer, and I build it with libasound 2.0.0, and synaptic updates libasound in the future, will it warn me about the package having dependencies not met?
[09:20] <df00z> Or will it just break?
[09:20] <The_K> at least half of the parts we ordered came up bad
[09:20] <The_K> they always made it right in the end, though
[09:21] <ubajaz> Buggy software, faulty hardware. This is the world I live in!
[09:21] <arooni__> what kinds of things would you  notice if you had bad memory
[09:21] <arooni__> that failed the memtest86+
[09:21] <The_K> Shit generally not working, lol
[09:21] <arooni__> heh
[09:21] <arooni__> and hard to repro i bet
[09:21] <The_K> You can get some pretty awesome behavior (if the system actually loads)
[09:21] <arooni__> The_K, like ?
[09:22] <Terrasque> arooni__: with bad mem, basically anything can happen :p
[09:22] <bachstudies> does anyone else experience random reboots when using firefox?
[09:22] <arooni__> it could be awesome
[09:22] <ubajaz> bachstudies: Definitely not.
[09:22] <bachstudies> opera seems to work just fine
[09:23] <df00z> or..I wonder if I could just statically link it
[09:23] <df00z> heh
[09:24] <arooni__> hmmmm if memtest86+ runs one or two tests and then shuts down.... this is an indication that the memory is bad yes?
[09:24] <arooni__> shuts down = computer shuts down
[09:25] <Terrasque> arooni__: from one program not functioning, to the machine going really slow, to weird textures in games, to one function returning bad result, to machine rebooting, to random data errors, to.. well, you get the idea :p
[09:25] <Inverse> arooni what are you trying to do?
[09:25] <ubajaz> Wonder what could be wrong with a laptop that reboots during XP setup, and hangs for hours switching from "step 1" to "step 2" in the Ubuntu install, after taking a bloody long time to get there.
[09:25] <arooni__> see whether th echeap atech memory i bought at frys will work
[09:25] <arooni__> Inverse, that was for u
[09:26] <VSpike> ubajaz: faulty hard drive, cd drive or or pata/sata controller?
[09:26] <Inverse> if its working it works, if you dont get strange behaviour then it would appear to be working,  do the mem test with individual sticks, see if it reproduces errors
[09:26] <Parsi> after a while my line drops, i wanna redial automatically, is it possible?
[09:26] <Inverse> but my advice would be to take it back and spend a bit more getting better hardware
[09:27] <ujabas> VSpike: Yes, I assume those are strong candidates.
[09:27] <jubilee> Hey, I've installed Flash for FF and videos @ YouTube don't work right... Is there a common reason for this?
[09:27] <Inverse> anyways, work time now, chow for now
[09:27] <Parsi> jubilee: Flash or Flash Player?
[09:27] <jubilee> Player*
[09:28] <VSpike> arooni__: why would you inflict cheap RAM on yourself? :)
[09:28] <Parsi> YouTube videos appear like an empty plate?
[09:28] <jubilee> Also, In FF when I scroll up or down, and I get to the top of bottom of a page, rather than not scrolling anymore, it goes to the page before or after... If there a way to turn this off?
[09:29] <jubilee> Parsi, no, all of the buttons are all mashed together and the windows sized wrong...
[09:30] <arooni__> VSpike, cuz i'm chronically cheap.... about everything :(
[09:30] <Devyll> hello , how can I mount a partition automaticly on boot ?  using fstab file ? if yes is the next syntax correct ? : "/dev/sda1                 /mnt/mountPartition           ext32"                ?????
[09:30] <hwilde> Devyll, man fstab
[09:30] <Parsi> jubilee: re-install flash player!
[09:30] <Parsi> Devyll: mount -a
[09:30] <rico> I have an issue with my Virtual machine, its not picking up my video card as an ATI card
[09:30] <jubilee> Parsi, k then... do you know anything about this scrolling thing?
[09:30] <Parsi> or go to /media
[09:30] <Parsi> aaaa
[09:31] <The_K> shit, I'd just remove then install FF, unless you've played around with it too much
[09:31] <Parsi> i had this problem, but it fixed itself!
[09:31] <jubilee> Parsi, which?
[09:31] <Parsi> scrolling
[09:31] <kerny> how do I achieve this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47668/
[09:31] <draken> can someone help me, i lost my bar for taskbar
[09:31] <juststarting> hi
[09:32] <jubilee> Parsi, what about when you're on the desktop, how if you accidentally scroll it starts switching workspaces?
[09:32] <VSpike> arooni__: With some things, that only works if you don't value your time.  Sometimes you need to spend more to save, seems to me
[09:32] <juststarting> hello
[09:32] <kerny> how do I rebuild the kernel?
[09:33] <The_K> it's not entertaining, not in the least.
[09:33] <Parsi> jubilee: stars?
[09:33] <VSpike> arooni__: Mind you, if we didn't like wasting hours on a computer, why would we use linux? :)
[09:33] <arooni__> VSpike, i agree with you........ and i do value my time
[09:33] <The_K> Vspike, agreed
[09:33] <jubilee> Parsi?
[09:33] <arooni__> i need to spend a bit more sometimes
[09:33] <Parsi> jubilee. aha
[09:34] <Parsi> only when mouse goes to desktop sides!
[09:34] <Parsi> and i don't know how to disable it!
[09:34] <The_K> draken, add a new bar to the bottom of the screen, and right click it and add the task bar to it
[09:34] <jubilee> Parsi, if I scroll with desktop @ front, it'll switch workspaces... I don't know how to shut this off... It's really annoying, that I should fear accidentally scrolling too far or in the wrong places...
[09:34] <The_K> I don't have a GUI readily available, but thats essentially it
[09:35] <Parsi> jubilee, me to!
[09:35] <jubilee> Parsi, so do you know where I might... find some prefs for this?
[09:35] <Parsi> jubilee, if you found a way to shut off teach me!
[09:35] <rico> I have an issue with my Virtual machine, its not picking up my video card as an ATI card
[09:36] <The_K> what VM software are you using?
[09:36] <The_K> and in my experience, most VM's won't pick them up.. it will give you a generic VGA adapter driver
[09:36] <syc_> guys, what is the best VM software out there ?
[09:36] <jubilee> WHY DOES NO ONE KNOW HOW TO FIX THIS!?
[09:36] <irreducibilis> !caps
[09:36] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:37] <rico> Virtual box
[09:37] <Parsi> hey guys, is there an option to redialing on line drop???
[09:37] <jubilee> Well, read caps, for I am angry and I'm trying to get this across...   My laptop has decided that half my trackpad is the scrollwheel
[09:39] <jubilee> yeah, I accidentally hit it all the time... if only they'd do the AAPL thing where two fingers are needed to scroll
[09:39] <irreducibilis> Ah, in that case
[09:39] <irreducibilis> Solution may == USB mouse
[09:40] <earlmred> anybody in here have experience with mdadm?
[09:40] <jubilee> It's my girlfriends computer, not mine, but it annoys both of us, and she doesn't, for whatever reason, like to use a mouse
[09:40] <redblack> hi
[09:40] <irreducibilis> hm
[09:40] <jubilee> or she... likes to use her fingers instead... which doesn't worry me.
[09:41] <earlmred> mdadm keeps giving me "device or resource busy" when i try to create an array
[09:42] <redblack> how can i know the symbolic links for a knowen file?
[09:42] <irreducibilis> redblack: You mean the extension?
[09:43] <redblack> non
[09:44] <redblack> irreducibilis,  i should entre a file name to the find cmd + parametres that destinct the symbolic link for the file a want
[09:44] <irreducibilis> ah... no clue then
[09:45] <Richard51684> My volume is very low... When I set it to 50% it's unhearable and when it's on 100% it feels like it's actually at 25% volume. What's causing this and/or how can I fix it? I know the volumes aren't correct because I used to be on Windows.
[09:45] <The_K> alsamixer
[09:45] <redblack> irreducibilis,  thanks any way
[09:46] <redblack> :)
[09:46] <The_K> start there
[09:46] <Richard51684> where would i find it
[09:47] <VSpike> Richard51684: run it from a terminal
[09:47] <Richard51684> ok
[09:48] <nikin> Hy, I Dont Know why but firefox eats up 23% CPU in ideal state just with the igoogle website opened.... Flash movie players also tend to lag... adn all the CPU is used by firefox (dual PIII server)
[09:48] <VSpike> Richard51684: just turn everything to max, and try toggling some of the options too, especially if you have anything like "external amplifier" or similar
[09:48] <sunogbaga> is there any way to fire up a shell with network tools like ssh/ftp when booting to an ubuntu installer?
[09:49] <skywalking> Hello , I would like to know that Apache has the gui configure or not ?   If yes , what is the name of that program.
[09:49] <The_K> I think you are stuck with whatever is on the LiveCD
[09:50] <The_K> sunogbaga, are you looking for a temporary toolkit?  If so, try Knoppix
[09:50] <sunogbaga> The_K: Problem is i don't have a live cd, all i have is a ubuntu server installer
[09:51] <The_K> huh... no way to get a LiveCD?
[09:51] <Richard51684> i tried that alsamixer utility and all options
[09:51] <Richard51684> didn't help
[09:51] <sunogbaga> The_K: not now..
[09:51] <Xenobyte> Richard51684, did you see how to "unmute" things in alsamixer?
[09:51] <Richard51684> yes
[09:51] <sunogbaga> The_K: i can get it at later, but i'm wondring if it's possible
[09:51] <draken> my avi videos are going all green ? :<
[09:51] <The_K> Rickard, press M, I believe... or Enter, actually
[09:52] <The_K> sunogbaga, I don't think it is.
[09:52] <The_K> alsamixer
[09:52] <TexasTaz> Good morning everyone
[09:52] <Xenobyte> Richard51684, i guess you raised the level for pcm too
[09:52] <root> what deb can i use to install beryl-manager for gutsy amd64
[09:52] <magnetron> !beryl | root
[09:52] <ubotu> root: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[09:52] <Richard51684> yep
[09:53] <Richard51684> i raised all the possible levels
[09:53] <sunogbaga> The_K: thnx,. it would be helpful, coz my officemate's pc just crashed, we have no way to back-up..just through network(i guess)
[09:53] <Terrasque> !compiz
[09:53] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[09:53] <magnetron> Richard51684: is alsa selected in System > preferences > sound
[09:54] <sunogbaga> The_K: i have to get myself that live cd
[09:54] <jck_true> does any of you know a Ubuntu version ready for server purpuse (Just local server with PHP, Mysql, Apache, SVN, Maybe some Bittorent?)
[09:54] <Xenobyte> i have been using the heck out of systemrescuecd lately
[09:55] <The_K> jck_true, they have a server version on the website
[09:55] <The_K> I'm running on it right now
[09:55] <Terrasque> root: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:55] <root> ok so when I run compiz --replace  I get a white screen
[09:55] <ikonia> jck_true: the desktop version will work fine for that
[09:55] <magnetron> jck_true: yes Ubuntu Server. at install, you can choose roles as LAMP for instance
[09:55] <The_K> sunobaga, Knoppix is pretty bueno... I haven't played with ut un a whule
[09:55] <jck_true> The_K: Does that version include PHP and other goodies?
[09:55] <magnetron> jck_true: yes
[09:55] <ikonia> jck_true: you have no need for server version for your requiments, the desktop version will do exactly what you ask for
[09:55] <jck_true> Thanks
[09:56] <magnetron> !lamp > jck_true
[09:56] <draken> my avi videos are going all green ? :<
[09:56] <ikonia> jck_true: the desktop version will also be much easier to maintain and use
[09:57] <The_K> that begs the question... why bother having a server version?
[09:57] <VSpike> How can I make gnome not show window contents while moving or resizing?
[09:57] <draken> my avi videos are going all green ? :<
[09:57] <draken> all of a sudden
[09:57] <VSpike> Not running effects
[09:57] <ikonia> The_K: for people who actually need server platforms
[09:57] <skywalking> Hello , I would like to know that Apache has the gui configure or not ?   If yes , what is the name of that program.
[09:57] <ikonia> jck_true: I assure you the desktop version will be fine, work easier and be a much better platform for your personal needs
[09:57] <The_K> skywalking: no idea.  Google might pull something up, though.
[09:57] <earlmred> hmm
[09:57] <earlmred> sure does take awhile to format 1.5TB
[09:57] <ikonia> skywalking: no gui that I'm aware of
[09:57] <Terrasque> The_K: I use server version install a lot :)
[09:58] <root> any ideas or which log I can look at why I get this white screen ?
[09:58] <ikonia> root: xorg.log, gdm.log
[09:58] <ikonia> root: x.0.log
[09:58] <ikonia> root: syslog, messages
[09:59] <root> I have been looking all night at these files but I don't see anything strange
[09:59] <ikonia> root: at what point do you get a white screen
[09:59] <root> immediately
[09:59] <ikonia> when
[09:59] <root> as soon as I run compiz --replace
[10:00] <ikonia> root: ok - so lets step back. Does it work without compiz ?
[10:00] <earlmred> heh ircing as root? :)
[10:00] <TexasTaz> Good Morning Ikonia
[10:00] <_ruben> not working as root would be a first step
[10:00] <ikonia> The_K: morning
[10:00] <ikonia> oops
[10:00] <root> if I type metacity --replace I am ok
[10:00] <The_K> ikonia: can't tell anymore
[10:00] <ikonia> TexasTaz: good morning
[10:00] <ikonia> root: thats not what I asked
[10:01] <ikonia> root: your running fine with no issues without enabling compiz ?
[10:01] <JewishMan> does the ubuntu livecd have the adobe flash plugin installed on it?
[10:01] <ikonia> JewishMan: no
[10:01] <JewishMan> :(( wah.
[10:01] <root> yes
[10:01] <The_K> JewishMan, can't legally do that
[10:01] <root> ikonia yes seems ok
[10:02] <ikonia> root: right, so how do you enable "desktop effects"
[10:02] <JewishMan> The_K im surprised, i'd think adobe would WANT that
[10:02] <ikonia> JewishMan: no
[10:02] <JewishMan> whats their problem?
[10:02] <ikonia> JewishMan: restrictive license
[10:02] <root> ikonia yikes I am not sure I guess I had this before upgrading from feisty and when I was using beryl-manager
[10:02] <JewishMan> you guys should try sending hired goons over to the Adobe headquarters
[10:03] <The_K> JewishMan... no idea, but no OS ships with it.  It's a distribution of code issue.. they want a cut of the sales
[10:03] <ikonia> root: ok - so there is a potential problem have you removed all the beryl stuff before upgrading ?
[10:03] <JewishMan> how do they make sales off of a player?
[10:03] <mips> My screen is all garbage when I boot up. How do I change to vesa mode
[10:03] <ikonia> !offtopic >JewishMan
[10:03] <JewishMan> never mind. Jesus
[10:03] <ikonia> I'm not jesus
[10:04] <root> ikonia let me do a dpkg -l | grep beryl
[10:04] <The_K> ...wasn't he Jewish?
[10:04] <bazhang> heh

[10:04] <DosKey> Hello ubuntu people.
[10:04] <ikonia> root: did you read the upgrade info about disabling all 3rd party product/repo's ?
[10:04] <bazhang> hi DosKey
[10:04] <root> ikonia that came up empty so my guess is I don't have beryl
[10:04] <The_K> Good evening/morning
[10:04] <ikonia> root not any more
[10:05] <ikonia> root: but did you leave it enabled while upgrading ?
[10:05] <root> ikonia nope did not se it
[10:05] <ikonia> root: to be honest, I would do a clean gutsy install as you've not followed the procedure
[10:05] <slytherin> Is anyone here using elisa?
[10:05] <ikonia> root: it will be easier to resolve than troubleshooting a mix match system
[10:05] <root> ikonia ooo nooooo
[10:05] <ikonia> root: and I'll put money your problem goes away
[10:05] <DosKey> err
[10:05] <The_K> root:  don't log in using root.  Please.  Use sudo or su if you must, heh
[10:05] <DosKey> root from HTS?
[10:06] <root> ikon ok
[10:06] <Slap_stick> has anyone here managed to get javaws to work, i've install jre1.5 as i need that version for a specific applet however when i go to run javaws it is looking for javaws.jar file which doesn't exist
[10:06] <root> ikonia what is the best way to capture all my configuration information of my system if I am going to rebiuild from scratch ??
[10:07] <ikonia> root: your home directory contains most of your personalisation config files
[10:07] <slytherin> Slap_stick: What is output of 'ls -l /etc/alternatives/javaws'
[10:07] <root> i have my home on a seprate drive
[10:07] <ikonia> root: thats excellent
[10:07] <ikonia> root: that should make a clean install much easier
[10:07]  * magnetron awards ikonia a golden star for good IRC support
[10:07] <The_K> root: well done
[10:08] <ikonia> magnetron: ha ha
[10:08] <magnetron> ikonia: you deserve it!
[10:08] <root> my main worry is all the work I did to get hdtv pinnacle mythtv mysql apache and all other stuff installed
[10:08] <mips> how do I fix my screen that displays crap when i boot up?
[10:08] <ikonia> root: ok - so your tv setup will have to be re-done, no real way around that.
[10:08] <jubilee> Where can I find MP3 codecs???
[10:08] <ikonia> root: backup your apache config files
[10:08] <DosKey> mips, what do you mean... 'Crap'?
[10:08] <ikonia> root: dump your mysql databases for imports to preserve grant permissions
[10:09] <simion314> hi, where can i edit the enviroment variables?
[10:09] <ikonia> root: then your fine and ready to go
[10:09] <DerangedDingo> mips: editing your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:09] <magnetron> !codec > jubilee
[10:09] <DosKey>  simion314, from shell....
[10:09] <ikonia> simion314: envionment vaiables are edited from the shell eg: TEST=12345
[10:09] <jubilee> eh?
[10:09] <Stevethepirate> y0y0y0.
[10:09] <mips> Doskey, I cannot see anything its just stripes when it gets to the login part
[10:09] <simion314> i want to remove something, i prefer editing a file
[10:10] <mips> DerangedDingo, what do I append to the kernel line ?
[10:10] <root> this is painfull I wish there was a betterway to keep track of things
[10:10] <jubilee> hullo?
[10:10] <DerangedDingo> mips: that's a different story
[10:10] <ikonia> simion314: how does an enviornment varaible effect removing something
[10:10] <DosKey> x server has f***ed up....
[10:10] <Stevethepirate> jubilee: just saying hi'z.
[10:10] <ikonia> DosKey: thats a terrible way to get support
[10:10] <magnetron> Stevethepirate: hi'z!
[10:10] <ikonia> DosKey: remember this is a family friendly channel, so no swearing, and your initial comment didn't even warrent any form of bad language
[10:10] <Stevethepirate> magnetron: lulz hi'z :P
[10:10] <DerangedDingo> mips: i thought you meant the 'verbose output'
[10:10] <ikonia> DosKey: just speak politly and you'll get support
[10:10] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: hello as well.
[10:10] <DosKey> lol.....
[10:10] <DerangedDingo> or whatever it's called
[10:10] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: hi
[10:11] <ikonia> DosKey: I'm not laughing
[10:11] <DosKey> I'm not after support....
[10:11] <jubilee> I'm looking for MP3 Codecs for Rythmbox
[10:11] <DosKey> Sorry :S
[10:11] <Stevethepirate> !mp3 > jubilee
[10:11] <ikonia> DosKey: then please moderate your own language
[10:11] <DosKey> Sorry :S
[10:11] <magnetron> jubilee: read the private message from ubotu
[10:11] <jubilee> OIC!
[10:11] <mips> DerangedDingo, I have a nv6600 card, is there not something I can add to the boot parameters untill I install the nvidia driver?
[10:11] <jubilee> thx
[10:11] <ikonia> mips: what point are you getting garbled text ?
[10:11] <Stevethepirate> mips: what a name.. that language pwnt me for like 1/2 year...
[10:11] <dancor> is it possible to use 7.10 apt but then my own kernel in grub.conf (i need to use 7.04 one bc newer one doesn't work)
[10:11] <dancor> or will ubuntu get mad at me
[10:12] <ikonia> dancor: it is possible, but its a lot of effort to do and maintain and you'll lose ubuntu supportability
[10:12] <DosKey> ikona, lines on his GUI at login
[10:12] <simion314> ikonia: hi, i tried to install mono from a installer, it faield some how, and i have some incorect path and other variables, i do not know exactly how to modify them, i prefer looking at the file
[10:12] <mips> ikonia, the loging part, basically where X11 starts
[10:12] <DosKey> xserver
[10:12] <ikonia> simion314: which installer ?
[10:12] <slytherin> dancor: How do you plan to install the old kernel? It should be possible but we need to know more details.
[10:12] <DerangedDingo> well you should load the nv driver by default.. as ordered in your xorg.conf i believe, so, the problem should be there
[10:12] <mips> Stevethepirate, they were good cpus
[10:12] <simion314> ikonia the linux installer
[10:12] <Stevethepirate> I need a way to bridge 2 network cards so that anyone on network 1 can talk to anyone on network 2 through the bridge.. one network is DHCP, the other is static.. anyone know any guides or point me in a general direction?
[10:12] <dancor> slytherin: it's still there in /boot, i just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10
[10:13] <simion314> ikonia is a installer for this program
[10:13] <ikonia> mips: ok - here is what to do. Boot into safe mode or from the livecd. Mount your file system, and edit /etc/xorg.conf to say "vesa" where it currently says "nv"
[10:13] <ikonia> simion314: what installer  ? you should be using the ubuntu package manager via apt/apttitude or synaptic
[10:13] <dancor> i'll try it, i just wanted to know if it would def not work
[10:13] <dancor> thansk
[10:13] <slytherin> dancor: Then it should work.
[10:13] <ikonia> mips: I don't think that was meant for you, your not having X11 problems are you
[10:13] <simion314> ikonia: there are to old
[10:13] <ikonia> the 7.10 packages are very up to date
[10:14] <Stevethepirate> mips: yeah, I did SPIM for a Comp sci elective.. was luls.
[10:14] <simion314> ikonia i will try now to compile from source but i must clean the path and other variables
[10:14] <z9999> Is there a way to disable to display of known file types when viewing files as in Windows? eg. .txt .odt etc.
[10:14] <simion314> ikonia i need the recent version
[10:14] <mips> ikonia, i have gfx driver issue
[10:14] <ikonia> simion314: you shouldn't be compiling thigns like mono from source unless you are %100 confident in what you are doing, which you are clearly not due to being unable to set environment variables
[10:14] <DosKey> He was telling you what to do...
[10:14] <mips> ikonia, would love to get my hands on a mips based pc, just for giggles
[10:14] <Stevethepirate> z9999: you mean like "Hide file extensions of known file types" in windows?
[10:14] <ikonia> mips: ahh then it was for you. Did you uderstand my message
[10:15] <ikonia> mips: is it clear what I suggested on how to resolve your issue ?
[10:16] <simion314> ikonia i have no choice, i alreadi instaled some addins from svn, only to use some debian packages but it could be unsafe
[10:16] <ikonia> simion314: you shouldn't be using debian packages either, they are not meant for ubuntu
[10:16] <mips> ikonia, i understand, what is the exact location of xorg.conf?
[10:16] <ikonia> simion314: it sounds like you've made a real potential mess of your system
[10:16] <ikonia> mips: /etc/X11
[10:16] <z9999> Stevethepirate: Yes.
[10:17] <VSpike> How can I make gnome not show window contents while moving or resizing?  Not running effects
[10:17] <VSpike> Also would like to disable the minimize/maximise animations
[10:17] <simion314> ikonia: i know but i have no choice the ubuntu maintener of this packages is not maintain them up to date
[10:17] <ikonia> VSpike: in one of the visual menu's there is an option that saws "show contents while dragging"
[10:17] <Stevethepirate> z9999: hmm, never really liked that feature TBH.. soz.
[10:17] <ikonia> simion314: why do you need later than 7.10's package. 7.10's are almost bleeding edge
[10:18] <VSpike> ikonia: visual menus?
[10:18] <ikonia> VSpike: desktop appearence,
[10:18] <ikonia> VSpike: themes, that sort of thing, one of the menus that edits teh visual effects
[10:18] <simion314> ikonia: i need to compile some programs, like monodevelop, and it has this dependences
[10:18] <ikonia> simion314: monodevelop is in the repo
[10:19] <ikonia> simion314: ubuntu has one packaged for you
[10:19] <VSpike> ikonia: I can't find it
[10:19] <z9999> Stevethepirate: Any idea how to hude them in ubuntu?
[10:19] <ikonia> simion314: monodevelop - C#/Boo/Java/Nemerle/ILasm/ASP.NET Development Environment
[10:19] <simion314> ikonia: i want to implement something in MD, in the repositories is the version 0.14 and now the stable si 0.17
[10:19] <Stevethepirate> z9999: no, just said so.. soz.
[10:19] <boguh> can i use the graphical installer to set up an encrypted environment?
[10:19] <ikonia> simion314: thats not far behind,
[10:19] <ikonia> simion314: what specifcly do you need out of 0.17
[10:20] <ikonia> boguh: not that I'm aware of
[10:20] <smmagic> Andy
[10:20] <magnetron> boguh: no.
[10:20] <kerny> how do I rebuild the kernel in ubuntu?
[10:20] <DosKey> kerny.....
[10:20] <ikonia> kerny: if you have to ask, you should n't be doing so
[10:20] <ikonia> kerny: why do you want to rebuild the kenrnel ?
[10:20] <boguh> cause with the alternate install cd i could mind my swap sace on an encrypted partition
[10:20] <ikonia> kernel even
[10:20] <kerny> I have to
[10:20] <ikonia> kerny: why
[10:21] <Stevethepirate> I need a way to bridge 2 network cards so that anyone on network 1 can talk to anyone on network 2 through the bridge.. one network is DHCP, the other is static.. anyone know any guides or point me in a general direction?
[10:21] <simion314> ikonia: listen i want to run Monodevelop inside monodevelop to add some component, and i need to use the SVN versions that has now dependencies
[10:21] <kerny> to you a driver for my tv card
[10:21] <kerny> use*
[10:21] <mips> ikonia, thx, sorted, i have a visible desktop. Now I can upgrade to nvidia driver
[10:21] <DosKey> Then just install a kernel Module.
[10:21] <ikonia> simion314: then that is not an ubuntu issue
[10:21] <kerny> I need CONFIG_I2C=m, CONFIG_I2C_ALGOBIT=m and CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV=m
[10:21] <Schalken> Stevethepirate: turn your computer into a router?
[10:21] <DosKey> Then just install a kernel Module.
[10:21] <kerny> for the kernel
[10:21] <DosKey> ^^^^^^
[10:21] <DosKey> Kerny
[10:21] <ikonia> kerny: thos modules should be in the kernel
[10:21] <Schalken> Stevethepirate: isn't that what a router does, connects two networks together?
[10:21] <kerny> don't I have to install those things?
[10:21] <magnetron> !kernel > kerny
[10:22] <Stevethepirate> Schalken: well, I need to run some services [web, ftp, DC, etc] on this PC, but yeah, basically need to route as well.
[10:22] <DosKey> No need to recompile.... Just install a module.
[10:22] <ikonia> kerny: no, they should already be modules in the default uubntu kernel
[10:22] <kerny> enabled by default?
[10:22] <DosKey> There was on mine..... But i had to installl different Modules.
[10:22] <kerny> if so, great!
[10:22] <Schalken> Stevethepirate: actually, im not sure if you actually need to "route" or if you just need to make your computer connect the two networks together to make one network.
[10:22] <ikonia> kerny: yes, you may need to modprobe them, but other than that, ready to go
[10:22] <DosKey> *Install
[10:22] <kerny> http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~chrisp/Linux-DVB/DVICO/
[10:22] <Schalken> Stevethepirate: is there a difference between a router and a birdge?
[10:22] <kerny> go to the bottom of that page
[10:23] <Stevethepirate> Schalken: there is..
[10:23] <ikonia> kerny: why, we have answered your question
[10:23] <kerny> ok then
[10:23] <bazhang> Stevethepirate: using LAMP?
[10:23] <simion314> ikonia i tried loading MD in the 0.14 version of monodevelop but it faield, it would be better to use the latest versions, i have some instructions to install parralel versions of mono, i prefered using .deb packages but if they are not, belive me i was thinking to install open SUSE to use latest mono and monodevelop because they release they r code in rpm format for suse
[10:23] <Schalken> Stevethepirate: is a bridge what you need?
[10:23] <kerny> someone said I need a kernel module
[10:23] <kerny> but you said its in the kernel already
[10:23] <ikonia> simion314: again, thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:23] <Schalken> kerny: what are you trying to do?
[10:23] <Richard51684> is there a reason why i can't see a shared drive on my network? it's been run off a airport extreme. i have all the samba services running and i can already access networked windows folders
[10:24] <magnetron> kerny: it's already compiled
[10:24] <kerny> ok
[10:24] <VSpike> What's the diff between the GLDesktop thing in the preferences menu and the compiz/effects stuff?
[10:24] <Stevethepirate> Like, at university we have network points in our rooms. [only 1]. So I have 4 PC's.. so i'm gonna plug the server into one [the wall] then on the other network card on it, plug into a switch with the other PC's on it.
[10:24] <slytherin> simion314: Use debian unstable. you will get new packages everyday. But then it can crash your hard disk or kill your cat. :-P
[10:24] <magnetron> kerny: just load the module
[10:24] <kerny> what module?
[10:24] <kerny> the driver?
[10:24] <kerny> for my card?
[10:24] <magnetron> yeah
[10:24] <kerny> ok
[10:24] <slytherin> kerny: which card?
[10:25] <The_K> Stevethepirate: just buy a switch.  Should work, unless you get one IP per port
[10:25] <Stevethepirate> One IP per port, MAC filtered.. :(
[10:25] <Schalken> Stevethepirate: you've lost me. anyways, you proly know more about networks than i do. and to turn your computer into a router or a bridge im pretty sure you need some l33t hacking on iptables. but there might be an easy to use gui that will do that for you, as well.
[10:25] <simion314> ikonia: yes, i  will clean the enviroment variablea and compile from source
[10:25] <Suva> iptables is not rocket science
[10:25] <Stevethepirate> And I have a switch already. [hence the method of connection to the other PC's]
[10:26] <Stevethepirate> Suva: 'lo
[10:26] <The_K> Definately some iptables.  There should be plenty of guides online for that.
[10:26] <Suva> You don't need to be l33t hacker to hack it. You just need to read some manuals and background information on networks
[10:26] <[AA]dev-null> hi everybody. how i can add local ru_RU.KOI8-R in my ubuntu?
[10:26] <magnetron> Stevethepirate: firestarter can help you setup ubuntu as a router
[10:26] <VSpike> Stevethepirate: you need to do NAT routng right?
[10:26] <Suva> [AA]dev-null: Wouldn't it be smarter to just use UTF russian locale?
[10:26] <Schalken> [AA]dev-null: local wha?
[10:26] <Stevethepirate> Yeah.. I'm looking for a simple solution though, I need to explain this to non-l33t linux noobs who are also on the residence sub-com
[10:26] <Stevethepirate> VSpike: perhaps.
[10:26] <Schalken> [AA]dev-null: whats ru_RU.KOI8-R?
[10:27] <Stevethepirate> Should i draw a picture on paint to explain the situation?
[10:27] <Stevethepirate> Might clear up.
[10:27] <Suva> Schalken: Locale
[10:27] <magnetron> Stevethepirate: firestarter can help you setup ubuntu as a router
[10:27]  * Stevethepirate goes to draw it quick.. bbias
[10:27] <The_K> Stevethepirate: Oh god, please do!
[10:27] <Stevethepirate> The_K: indeed. :P
[10:27] <[AA]dev-null> Suva:  no i nedd koi8-r . i try to start WOW with russian language. else dont work
[10:27] <magnetron> Stevethepirate: firestarter can help you setup ubuntu as a router
[10:27] <Suva> [AA]dev-null: Ah, I see
[10:27] <VSpike> Stevethepirate: yes, you do.  If you have a spare old PC, use smoothwall
[10:27] <slytherin> [AA]dev-null: Have you tried installing Russian language support?
[10:28] <magnetron> Stevethepirate: firestarter can help you setup ubuntu as a router
[10:28] <Schalken> magnetron: i thought firestarter only configured your filtering/firewall
[10:28] <magnetron> Schalken: it's al just iptables
[10:29] <[AA]dev-null> slytherin: allready installed (sory for my english) i have learn germ
[10:29] <Suva> [AA]dev-null: You need to run some dpkg-reconfigure thing, generate appropriate locales (do not set as default, just generate them) and use: export LC_ALL=ru_RU.KOI8-R
[10:29] <Schalken> magnetron: but firestarter isnt a generic iptables gui, it just configures the part of iptables relevant to firewalling. thats what i thought, anyway.
[10:30] <[AA]dev-null> Suva: just write export LC_ALL=ru_RU.KOI8-R and start>
[10:30] <[AA]dev-null> ?))
[10:30] <Suva> [AA]dev-null: In the same terminal, before launching WoW
[10:30] <VSpike> Stevethepirate: http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/5/28/
[10:30] <[AA]dev-null> Suva: ok thanks a lot
[10:30] <kerny> linux/devfs_fs_kernel.h: No such file or directory
[10:30] <kerny> how do I fix that?
[10:30] <Suva> [AA]dev-null: I can't give you exact command lines right now, because I am not behind linux computer
[10:30] <simion314> does anyone knows where are the enviroment variables set? i need the name of the file not the shell commands
[10:31] <ikonia> simion314: they are set in your shell
[10:31] <ikonia> simion314: you edit them by using the shell VARIABLE=1234 for example
[10:31] <kerny> dvb-kernel/build-2.6/dvbdev.h:30:35: error: linux/devfs_fs_kernel.h: No such file or directory
[10:31] <ikonia> simion314: you can set them on a regular basis using your bash profiles
[10:31] <kerny> how do I fix that?
[10:31] <slytherin> simion314: for user level ~/.bashrc
[10:31] <ikonia> kerny: why are you building additional modules ?
[10:32] <Suva> simion314: Depends, /etc/profile /etc/bash.bashrc ...
[10:32] <ikonia> simion314: it should not be set in /etc/profile
[10:32] <Stevethepirate> Flip i hate paint...
[10:32] <kerny> I need to install this: The LinuxTV project DVB code, with my version of mt352.c installed in place of the distributed version.  This snapshot from CVS should build out of the box (and includes my mt352.c);
[10:32] <The_K> Stevethepirate: MS Paint?
[10:32] <Stevethepirate> The_K: unfortunately.
[10:33] <Richard51684> is there any adblock-plus extension for firefox?
[10:33] <ikonia> kerny: do you actually understand what your doing ?
[10:33] <The_K> MS Paint and Notepad are the two greatest pieces of software to ever come out of Redmond
[10:33] <kerny> yeah, just type make in the dir
[10:33] <VSpike> Stevethepirate: you could try the ubuntu firewall program at http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/2/1/ and the howto i linked above
[10:33] <Richard51684> coz whenever i go to the mozilla site and try to install add-ons they never work
[10:33] <kerny> right?
[10:33] <bazhang> Richard51684: yes
[10:33] <ikonia> kerny: no, thats not understanding what your doing
[10:33] <Stevethepirate> The_K: thats not saying much
[10:33] <Brujah> hy everybody
[10:33] <kerny> I'm compiling source code
[10:33] <Stevethepirate> VSpike: no.. not a firewall..
[10:33] <Stevethepirate> http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7670/topologyvy5.jpg  <-- topology
[10:33] <VSpike> Stevethepirate: it has a setup for ICS and NAT routing
[10:33] <ikonia> kerny: what do you actually want to achieve as an end solution ?
[10:33] <Brujah> ow can I get my old search function back? strigi is not doing what I want
[10:34] <VSpike> Stevethepirate: read the article
[10:34] <kerny> I'm trying to install modules
[10:34] <kerny> what's a module?
[10:34] <bazhang> Richard51684: they never work--do they install?
[10:34] <VSpike> Stevethepirate: yes what you want is NAT routing, sometimes called ICS (Internet Connection Sharing)
[10:34] <kerny> for the kernel?
[10:34] <kerny> or for linux?
[10:34] <ikonia> kerny: no, what do you want to archieve as an end solution (what do you want to be able to do_
[10:34] <Richard51684> nope
[10:34] <ikonia> )
[10:34] <Richard51684> i try to download them and they don't even start, timeout
[10:34] <kerny> I want to use my TV card
[10:35] <Stevethepirate> VSpike: if i wanted ICS, i would use tinyproxy.
[10:35] <kerny> PCI slot card
[10:35] <kerny> FusionHDTV
[10:35] <Stevethepirate> I'm talking -all- port sharing.
[10:35] <VSpike> Stevethepirate: the reason for all the mentions of firewalls is that the same kernel modules and software are used for both purposes
[10:35] <bazhang> Richard51684: are you installing them through the get extensions via firefox?
[10:35] <ikonia> kerny: ok, there are many TV viewing applications ready to use in ubuntu without you having to build kernel modules and source code
[10:35] <Richard51684> yes
[10:35] <kerny> for fusionHDTV?
[10:35] <Stevethepirate> VSpike: i've read that before.
[10:35] <Richard51684> then i tried downloading the .xpi files
[10:35] <VSpike> Stevethepirate: proxy and NAT are not the same thing
[10:35] <Richard51684> i couldn't even do that
[10:35] <Stevethepirate> I know that.
[10:35] <zrk> hoho
[10:35] <bazhang> Richard51684: which version of firefox? and ubuntu
[10:35] <Richard51684> 2.11 7.10
[10:36] <ikonia> kerny: that is just a physical card as I read about it
[10:36] <Stevethepirate> But that firewalling thing is not what I'm looking for.
[10:36] <VSpike> Stevethepirate: I guess I missed an important part of the discussion then... so what are you trying to do?
[10:36] <magnetron> Stevethepirate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[10:36] <ganjamaniac> high
[10:36] <ganjamaniac> i got a problem
[10:36] <ikonia> ganjamaniac: hi
[10:36] <bazhang> Richard51684: do you have block popups disabled?
[10:36] <Richard51684> no
[10:36] <ganjamaniac> the problem is: i can't re-install wine
[10:36] <Stevethepirate> ganjamaniac: perhaps the ATF could help you.
[10:36] <kerny> It's a high definition TV card though
[10:37] <kerny> will ubuntu support it?
[10:37] <Stevethepirate> ganjamaniac: sudo apt-get remove wine && sudo rm -rf ~/.wine/ && sudo apt-get install wine
[10:37] <bazhang> Richard51684: you have to allow those extensions to load, popups iirc
[10:37] <Stevethepirate> might work
[10:37] <Stevethepirate> might break
[10:37] <ikonia> kerny: ok, looking at this document http://www.kjglobal.co.uk/acatalog/Fusion_HDTVD.html it looks like there is a supported chipset for it, but I can't be certain
[10:38] <Richard51684> ill try that
[10:38] <ikonia> kerny: although that is the usb version
[10:38] <ganjamaniac> wine:
[10:38] <ganjamaniac>  Hängt ab: ia32-libs but it is not going to be installed
[10:38] <ganjamaniac>  Hängt ab: lib32asound2 but it is not going to be installed
[10:38] <ganjamaniac>  Hängt ab: libc6-i386 but it is not going to be installed
[10:38] <ganjamaniac> i tried to in stall wine
[10:38] <ikonia> ganjamaniac: are you using ubuntu64 bit ?
[10:38] <ganjamaniac> yes
[10:38] <ganjamaniac> it was working before
[10:38] <ikonia> ganjamaniac: wine is not available on 64bit
[10:39] <ikonia> ganjamaniac: wine is 32bit only
[10:39] <ganjamaniac> hmm it worked before
[10:39] <The_K> Stevethepirate: Smoothwall, or Clarkconnect.  Might be easier to set up.
[10:39] <ikonia> ganjamaniac: are you sure, wine is only available as 32bit package
[10:39] <Richard51684> i click the install now button on this page: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865
[10:39] <ganjamaniac> ia32-libs are for emulating ia32 on 64bit
[10:39] <Richard51684> and nothing happens
[10:40] <ikonia> ganjamaniac: no, they are not for emullation, they ARE 32bit libraries
[10:40] <ganjamaniac> ikonia, it worked before
[10:40] <ganjamaniac> i messed up a thing
[10:40] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: he might have had 32-bit OS installed perchance?
[10:40] <ganjamaniac> with a debian package
[10:40] <ikonia> ganjamaniac: as I said, are you %100 sure as wine is only available in 32bit code
[10:40] <kerny> I have a FusionHDTV DVB-T Plus
[10:40] <kerny> thats the exact model
[10:40] <kerny> of my card
[10:40] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: yes, hence why I'm asking
[10:40] <kerny> any ideas?
[10:40] <kerny> how do I start using it?
[10:40] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: i thought we went through this last week?
[10:40] <ikonia> kerny: it looks like there is supported chipsets
[10:40] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: I think we did
[10:41] <bazhang> Richard51684: you went there via the extensions and have enabled popups (ie not blocked them)--not just surfing over to mozilla website
[10:41] <Richard51684> i disabled blocking popups
[10:42] <kerny> so if it is supported, is the driver installed already?
[10:42] <kerny> or I have to apt-get something?
[10:42] <Stevethepirate> VSpike: router is not what is happening.
[10:42] <ikonia> kerny: there is a module that appears so support it
[10:42] <ikonia> kerny: I've never used it / read about it before though
[10:42] <kerny> where can I download it?
[10:42] <kerny> that's fine
[10:42] <Upayavira> I want to recompile my kernel (gutsy). I did apt-get source linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic. It gives me a diff.gz file. How do I apply those diffs against the kernel source tree?
[10:42] <ikonia> kerny: I don't believe you have to download it
[10:42] <Stevethepirate> Sorry, magnetron.
[10:42] <ikonia> Upayavira: why do you want to build your own kernel
[10:42] <ikonia> Upayavira: if you do so you will lose ubuntu community support
[10:42] <Upayavira> SLUB->SLAB
[10:42] <kerny> so how do I use it, if I may ask
[10:43] <Upayavira> I'm well aware
[10:43] <bazhang> Richard51684: very odd--I have added tons of extensions from the tools--addons-get extensions in firefox browser, and I have the same versions
[10:43] <ikonia> Upayavira: no problem then
[10:43] <kerny> I have no experience in ubuntu
[10:43] <ikonia> kerny:  you need a TV viewing application, there are many in the ubuntu repos
[10:43] <Materials> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows how to add a non source file to src directory in a kdevelop project and have it copied to debug and distribution
[10:43] <Stevethepirate> magnetron: that example is like 'Comp A' has internet and "Comp B->Z" need it..
[10:43] <crweb> why is "I want to build my own kernel?" always answered with "Why do you want to build your own kernel?"  ?
[10:43] <Upayavira> ikonia: was recompiling kernels back in '94, just not ubuntu ones!
[10:43] <ikonia> crweb: because most people don't uderstand the implications
[10:43] <Suva> Building your own kernel is bad, mkay
[10:44] <Richard51684> is there a command to download a file?
[10:44] <magnetron> crweb: because some doesn't need to
[10:44] <Zionad_> wget
[10:44] <Mortice> Richard51684: wget
[10:44] <FluxD> Richard51684: wget
[10:44] <ikonia> magnetron: s/some/most
[10:44] <Upayavira> so, given I'm evil :-), does anyone know how to apply this kernel patch?
[10:44] <Richard51684> k
[10:44] <kerny> should I download MythTv?
[10:44] <magnetron> !kernel > crweb
[10:44] <ikonia> Upayavira: Patch is the command
[10:44] <FluxD> kerny: why are  asking us? :p
[10:44] <kerny> well it will work?
[10:44] <bazhang> kerny: yes :}
[10:44] <ikonia> kerny: myth is an excellent tv/multimedia package
[10:44] <bazhang> kerny: what do you want it to do?
[10:45] <Upayavira> ikonia: yeah, I did patch -p0 -v < linux......diff, but that didn't apply it, it just gave loads of "already applied" warnings
[10:45] <Upayavira> hmm
[10:45] <crweb> magnetron: thanks, but i'm very well aware of how to do so ;)
[10:45] <kerny> I want to use a FusionHDTV DVB-T
[10:45] <ikonia> Upayavira: is it already applied then ?
[10:45] <kerny> PLus
[10:45] <kerny> FusionHDTV DVB-T Plus
[10:45] <Upayavira> ikonia: lol. that's what I was just wondering. Let me check...
[10:45] <ikonia> Upayavira: I think you may find it is
[10:45] <bazhang> kerny: tv out?
[10:45] <kerny> ???
[10:45] <kerny> I want to watch TV
[10:46] <bazhang> kerny: media center?
[10:46] <kerny> and play Wii
[10:46] <ikonia> kerny: ubuntu can't play wii
[10:46] <kerny> no, I hooked up my Wii to my TV card
[10:46] <kerny> I can select Input source as compsosite
[10:46] <ikonia> kerny: that may be quite a complex solution
[10:46] <Stevethepirate> To record your Wii'ing?
[10:46] <kerny> I have it working
[10:46] <Upayavira> ikonia: lol. It is already applied. And how much time I've wasted on that one! Thx
[10:46] <kerny> in Windows that is
[10:46] <ikonia> Upayavira: no problem
[10:46] <slytherin> Upayavira: apt-get source does the patch applying for you. you don't have to do anything special
[10:46] <ganjamaniac> how can i link the binaries?
[10:47] <ikonia> kerny: that may be very complx in linux
[10:47] <ganjamaniac> depend: libc6 (=2.6.1-1ubuntu10) but 2.7-4 is to be installed
[10:47] <The_K> kerny: good chance of lag doing that, but I hope it works!
[10:47] <Upayavira> slytherin: ahhhh, thx
[10:47] <ganjamaniac> ln libc6 2.61 274?
[10:47] <slytherin> ikonia: what module supports kerny's card?
[10:47] <ikonia> ganjamaniac: why do you want to link the binaries ?
[10:47] <crweb> kerny: i play my wii on my linux machine
[10:47] <kerny> http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~chrisp/Linux-DVB/DVICO/   Apparently that is not laggy
[10:47] <ganjamaniac> i link the old version
[10:47] <crweb> kerny: its all dependant on your card and driver.
[10:47] <ikonia> slytherin: it looks like the win-nova compatible modules will play it, there is also a 3rd party module for extended functionality, lookinat the docs
[10:47] <kerny> crweb: how would I get a FusionHDTV DVB-T plus working?
[10:47] <FluxD> crweb: really? :o
[10:48] <Richard51684> where does wget save a file?
[10:48] <ikonia> ganjamaniac: 32bit is our problem
[10:48] <ganjamaniac> i got 2.7-4 of libc6-i386
[10:48] <ikonia> Richard51684: current working dir
[10:48] <FluxD> Richard51684: home folder
[10:48] <crweb> FluxD: yeah. not an issue. You want a framegrabber card, not a hardware encoder
[10:48] <kerny> apparently there is this website http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~chrisp/Linux-DVB/DVICO/
[10:48] <ganjamaniac> ikonia: IT WAS RUNNING BEFORE! believe me, i messed up something with a installer yesterday night
[10:48] <FluxD> crweb: any links I could take look at
[10:48] <bazhang> mythtv is like tivo kerny
[10:49] <ikonia> ganjamaniac: it will run, but you need a 32bit environment to run it
[10:49] <crweb> FluxD: for hardware? or setup?  I just use a cheap $20 card from newegg and tvtime
[10:49] <ganjamaniac> libc-i386 is a part of the 32bit environment for 64bit systems
[10:49] <FluxD> crweb: ah got it
[10:49] <ikonia> ganjamaniac: libc-i386 is the 32bit libaries, full stop.
[10:50] <ganjamaniac> ibc6-i386
[10:50] <ganjamaniac> GNU C Library: 32bit shared libraries for AMD64
[10:50] <ikonia> yes ?
[10:51] <crweb> kerny: nobody is giving you the run around. Its a really hard question to answer.  Very likely no one else has your tv card.
[10:51] <crweb> kerny: your best bet would be to google for "linux <yourcard>" and see examples of what others have done to get it to work.
[10:51] <alessandro_> ciao
[10:52] <ganjamaniac> i think i re-install the whole ubuntu
[10:52] <ikonia> ganjamaniac: maybe use the 32bit os ?
[10:52] <ganjamaniac> i use 64bit
[10:53] <ganjamaniac> its 64bit time
[10:53] <ikonia> consider 32 if wine is critical to your needs
[10:53] <alessandro_> hi i'm alexander good morning
[10:53] <ganjamaniac> i just have to run synchronet on wine, until i compiled it against gcc
[10:53] <crweb> yeah, if you need wine, cedega, or crossover, you should use 32bit
[10:54] <crweb> the gains from 64bit i don't feel outweigh the lack of software and support.
[10:54] <bazhang> hi alessandro_
[10:55] <alessandro_> do u spk italian
[10:55] <ikonia> !it | alessandro_
[10:55] <ubotu> alessandro_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:56] <alessandro_> tank
[10:56] <alessandro_> by !!!!!!!!!!!
[10:56] <bazhang> bye!
[10:56] <slytherin> kerny: Can you paste the output of command 'lspci' somewhere?
[10:57] <passbe> 7.10 sucessfully recognises my twinhan tv tuner, and loads the firmware, however using kaffeine i cannot view any channels ? can anyone shed some light ? google = fail
[10:58] <crweb> passbe: have you tried tvtime?
[10:58] <passbe> crweb:  ill give it a go
[10:58] <crweb> passbe: this way you can check if it is card or kaffeine
[10:58] <SmSpillaz> anyone where running on a laptop? If so, could you please post your current temperature?
[10:58] <SmSpillaz> I need to debug something
[10:59] <ljsmithx> Hi
[10:59] <ljsmithx> I need help with a person who hates linux
[10:59] <SmSpillaz> yeah
[10:59] <kerny> slytherin: ok
[10:59] <ljsmithx> Who here knows alot?
[10:59] <ganjamaniac> lol