[03:53] <kc8pxy> i need some help rescuing my ubuntu desktop..     it keeps freezing during boot. it will act like it's about to go to the login manager,   and then die, black-screen, most of the time...    other times, i'll get a stalled "working cursor, but still no login,  and other times, it's fine.
[03:53] <junior> basti: did that and things still say their forbidden
[03:53] <basti> junior, oh and /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[03:53] <netskillsii> rOOtinthebOx - i could use some help with finger print reader??
[03:53] <Ndshacker> kc8pxy: Just walk away for a bit
[03:53] <kc8pxy> the gentoo it's dual-booted with boots fine every time.
[03:53] <r00tintheb0x> netskillsii, i have no experience but i'll try.
[03:54] <Ndshacker> YOu probably have a Dell
[03:54] <basti> ,nopaste junior
[03:54] <kc8pxy> Ndshacker:  custom build.
[03:54] <Eric_Weatherby> ah, my *hard drives* have the thin red cable (SATA), my CD/DVD drive has the wide gray
[03:54] <genii> netskillsii: Did you try http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/get-your-fingerprint-reader-to-work-in.html  yet?
[03:54] <Flannel> Eric_Weatherby: Do these CDs check out on another computer? (Do you have another computer that they can be verified on?)
[03:54] <Ndshacker> Jmisrvrox: :| I hate it, I have three network cards, my best one doesnt work >.<
[03:54] <basti> junior, paste the files i mentioned to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:55] <kc8pxy>  Ndshacker: any other ideas?
[03:55] <Eric_Weatherby> I can try them on my laptop . . . I'll let you know what happens
[03:55] <jimisrvrox> well what really pisses me off is that v1 works on all sys's
[03:55] <r00tintheb0x> Eric_Weatherby, do you have two drives?
[03:55] <Ndshacker> kc8: I get the same error if I dotn do some tweaks
[03:55] <r00tintheb0x> both with the red cables?
[03:55] <r00tintheb0x> noooooooooooo eric
[03:55] <jimisrvrox> but walmart did a bait/switch and so I thought ahh ok so I'll just grab this puppy and plug her in..no dice..cant find the damn receipt..
[03:55] <Ndshacker> kc8: do you get any probs in the recovery console?
[03:55] <netskillsii> rOOtinthebOx - sounds good, i installed the packet Think Finger and as soon as i am ready to registered my finger print i get error message "Initializing...USB device not found"
[03:55] <Eric_Weatherby> two hard drives, both with red cables
[03:56] <cjae> !tipptrainer
[03:56] <cjae> !info tipptrainer
[03:56] <kc8pxy> Ndshacker:  what tweaks?  I've not tried recovery console much yet. it's our font-desk computer. I'm not at the shop.
[03:56] <Djelibeybi> Hmm.. swiching my xorg.conf didn't seem to help.
[03:56] <Kurrupt> hi
[03:57] <Ndshacker> kc8pxy: Mine had a problem with the network card, so... its probably a hardwar malfunction causing it
[03:57] <Ndshacker> I had to blacklist a few processes to fix it
[03:57] <netskillsii> gerri - i will check the site provided
[03:57] <junior> basti: ok their pasted, now what?
[03:57] <kc8pxy> Ndshacker:  like???   i need to appease the ubuntu people at the shop.
[03:57] <Ndshacker> lolz
[03:57]  * kc8pxy is a native gentoo user
[03:57] <Kurrupt> can someone please tell me how I can install ubuntu on my computer without having to burn a cd? Where can I download the files? All the files I found online are .iso files.
[03:58] <Ndshacker> What is it running on?
[03:58] <Flannel> !install | Kurrupt
[03:58] <Flannel> Kurrupt: First link there lists a few other methods
[03:58] <Kurrupt> !install
[03:58] <Kurrupt> hmm lol
[03:58]  * Ndshacker has a tendency to tweak all files :)
[03:58] <Flannel> Kurrupt: see the line ubottu sent you
[03:58] <kc8pxy> Ndshacker: .........  i forget the board, but it's an amd64 3200+ with s 200 gb sata, and 1gb ram
[03:58] <Kurrupt> kk ty
[03:58] <Ndshacker> onboard networking controller?
[03:59] <kc8pxy> Ndshacker:  yes.
[03:59] <basti> junior, paste the link the side provides. but i have to sleep now. i am sure someone else here can help you. sorry....
[03:59] <Ndshacker> Bah
[03:59] <hajmola> anyone tried google earth 5 and have no sound?
[03:59] <netskillsii> Thanks everyone i will try solution provided! Hopefully this will work......
[03:59] <Kraft_> Help:  How do I install zsnes?   Its got like a docs and src file and im not that familiar with installing those types of files
[04:00] <Nasra> !Gnome
[04:00] <AgentHeX> can someone tell me how to make a script run every hour?
[04:00] <Ndshacker> Try recovery console
[04:00] <fearful> Kraft_, you need to learn how to build applications, its kind of essential ;)
[04:00] <Kraft_> yeah
[04:00] <Kraft_> i was wondering how to do that
[04:01] <XtrHotMarSpy> cron
[04:01] <Ndshacker> Thank god for linux, it just helped me get a windows driver O.O
[04:01] <fearful> Kraft_, normally cd /directory once inside ./configure let that run, then sudo make install let that finish then make install
[04:01] <Until_It_Sleeps> Ndshacker: ♥
[04:01] <WalkTheLine> I have an Orinoco Proxim Gold card, can someone tell me how to install the wireless drivers? I heard they are already loaded in ubuntu
[04:01] <musikgoat|main> fearful: .configure && make && sudo make install
[04:01] <Kraft_> I see. cool!  what are some of the ...how do you say... terminal commands to use
[04:02] <Ndshacker> For what?
[04:02] <Ndshacker> there are lots of terminal commands
[04:02] <fearful> musikgoat|main, Kraft_ or all in one like above
[04:02] <Flannel> !gnome
[04:02] <AgentHeX> !cron
[04:02] <musikgoat|main> fearful: your command set was off is what i meant by that
[04:02] <Kraft_> im trying to install zsnes, an emulator so i can play super nintendo games
[04:02] <jimisrvrox> naw Nds...when I tried both sets of drivers when doing ndis I get Error something flags No device so yeah..do everything even -a to assign it but when I do ifconfig I get that and then on reboot I get stuck at starting bluetooth
[04:03] <fearful> musikgoat|main, oh yea I just noticed, I'm sorry Kraft_ sudo make first then sudo make install
[04:03] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: src should be a directory or a compressed file, no?
[04:03] <Flannel> !Gnome
[04:04] <horley> can anyone think of a reason why my sound has stopped working on VLC player? it seems to work everywhere else.. (ps.. i had a hell of a time getting my sound to work in the first place)
[04:04] <Kraft_> its just zsnes_1_51, (that's a folder.) than i open it up, and theres 2 folders "Docs" and "Src"
[04:04] <Kraft_> i ran "configure" in terminal
[04:04] <Kraft_> i dont know if that did anything or not
[04:04] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: in the Src directory, is there a configure file?
[04:04] <fearful> Kraft_, yea than cd to /zsnes_1_51/Src
[04:04] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: you have to be located in the directory
[04:04] <jimisrvrox> horley..most of the time I get that too sometimes and I just reboot..but other than that I couldnt see why sound would just stop working like that
[04:05] <Kraft_> Zsnes
[04:05] <Kraft_> whoa this is confusing
[04:05] <jimisrvrox> my guess is could just be driver package..BUT most likely not...seeming that it works with everything else but VLC
[04:05] <kc8pxy> Ndshacker:  what bothers me, is that it was working fine, then someone killed the power while it was on,  and it's been flaky under ubuntu ever since,  but i CANNOT get teh same flakiness out of the gentoo that's also on the same box.
[04:05] <Kraft_> user@user-desktop:-$
[04:05] <fearful> Kraft_, you have to locate the folder which contains configure.sh inside zsnes folder.
[04:06] <segin> Kraft_: Look under zsnes/src
[04:06] <njain> how to install Yahoo Messenger on Ubuntu
[04:06] <horley> jimisrvrox: yeah it's strange..
[04:06] <Kraft_> there's install-sh
[04:06] <njain> where is it
[04:06] <segin> Kraft_: That's not what you think it is.
[04:06] <Brack101> Hey
[04:06] <Kraft_> the only config files are   config.guses, config.h.in, config.log config.sub and configure... and configure.in.
[04:06] <Brack101> anyone used dimdim conferencing?
[04:06] <musikgoat|main> kraft
[04:06] <musikgoat|main> configure
[04:06] <musikgoat|main> thats what we asked about
[04:07] <WalkTheLine> i am a new user, should i setup a root user? i have a user account but it asks me for my password when making big changes. is that the preferred method of security?
[04:07] <Kraft_> yup
[04:07] <jimisrvrox> yeah horley...im not tech enuf to really say for sure..but my guess is driver pkg...me on the other hand ive got this wireless nic that will not work even with ndis
[04:07] <njain> Yahoo Messenger ?
[04:07] <segin> njain: Yahoo! does not, nor is it likely to ever ship a up-to-date Linux client. Please use Pidgin instead.
[04:07] <fearful> Kraft_, once this folder is located you can cd on the terminal
[04:07] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: ok, where is that folder and file located, on your Desktop?
[04:07] <Kraft_> yep it's on my desktop.   im not sure how to cd in the terminal
[04:07] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: use your unprivlidged account and elevate by typing your password or using the command sudo when necessary
[04:07] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: Never login as root, you don't need to
[04:07] <oniltonmaciel> Does anybody knows if I install a persistent live cd in a usb sticky, will I  get my customizations of the usb stick when I try to do a new installation with this usb sticky?
[04:07] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: type the following cd ~/Desktop/
[04:07] <jimisrvrox> WalkTheLine yes it is..ubuntu on default does not give you root acct..you have to make it..but it is the preferred method..whereas in old versions of windows you would technically have root privilages off the bat
[04:07] <segin> Kraft_: In all cases, the one named "configure" is the one you want
[04:07] <Ndshacker> Walktheline: DOnt make a root account
[04:08] <fearful> Kraft_, run the terminal and type cd ~/Desktop
[04:08] <segin> Kraft_: Invoke it as "./configure --help" (without quotes)
[04:08] <WalkTheLine> ok Brack, thank you. I wasn't sure if I should create a diff password for root or not
[04:08] <jimisrvrox> WalkTheLine you only should need to log into root if you are doing system maintenance or temporary for installing packages.
[04:08] <hunus> folks...I can't use wine
[04:08] <Kraft_> that worked but I had to capitalize "Desktop" interesting
[04:08] <Flannel> WalkTheLine: sudo is the preferred method, yes.  Ubuntu doesn't use a root account.
[04:08] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: yes and it should be VERY secure
[04:08] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: then cd zsnes_1_5_1  or whatever the foldre name was
[04:08] <hunus> there is no fonts showed
[04:08] <segin> Kraft_: Yes, Linux (and other Unix-like systems) are case-sensitive.
[04:08] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: linux is case sensitive, you'll get used to that
[04:08] <musikgoat|main> heh
[04:08] <WalkTheLine> understood Brack, thank you
[04:09] <Ndshacker> :| I geuss ill have to stick with Zydas, since Samsnung hates Ubuntu ;(
[04:09] <segin> Kraft_: A file named STARTREK is not named the same as one named startrek, or StarTrek, or even StArTrEk
[04:09] <horley> jimisrvox: yeah im not really techie enough either.. i'm new to ubuntu.. the good thing about your wireless problem is that there is a lot of info on wireless nics but the bad thing is that there is a lot of information on wireless nics..
[04:09] <hunus> somebody understand of wine?
[04:09] <Kraft_> i completely understand
[04:09] <fearful> hunus, offer a little more detail
[04:09] <Kraft_> i typed cd /zsnes_1_51
[04:09] <jimisrvrox> well horley..problem is that theres virtually NO info on this puppy
[04:09] <Kraft_> no such file or directory
[04:09] <hunus> my proble is about the fonts
[04:09] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: the forward slash is incorrect
[04:09] <fearful> Kraft_, type dir and see the exact name
[04:09] <musikgoat|main> at the beginning
[04:09] <segin> Kraft_: Because you specified an absolute path
[04:09] <hunus> in the config screen I cant see any word
[04:09] <WalkTheLine> can anyone help me find my wireless drivers? I have the Orinoco Gold card and was told they are already part of Ubuntu... not sure where to find them though
[04:09] <Kraft_> oh nice
[04:09] <horley> jimisrvrox: ahh.. tough one..
[04:09] <segin> Kraft_: / is the start ofyour file system...
[04:09] <Ndshacker> Is it safe to mount My Windows Install inside of Ubuntu
[04:09] <Kraft_> i see them all
[04:10] <Kraft_> (duh)
[04:10] <segin> Ndshacker: yes
[04:10] <DIFH-iceroot> Ndshacker: yes
[04:10] <jimisrvrox> so yeah me and Nds are having similar probs
[04:10] <Kraft_> ok, I'm in.
[04:10] <Ndshacker> Kay, thanks :)
[04:10] <musikgoat|main> are you in the Src folder Kraft_?
[04:10] <Kraft_> yes
[04:10] <Kraft_> user@user-desktop:~/Desktop/zsnes_1_51/src$
[04:10] <jimisrvrox> wusb54gcsv2 is my nic and ndis just isnt working with the win drivers.and its driving me nuts!
[04:10] <Ndshacker> I was just wondering, as it will help since I download + scan on linux
[04:10] <hunus> I already try to instal fonts
[04:10] <jimisrvrox> Been messing with this thing for about a weke
[04:10] <jimisrvrox> week*
[04:10] <hunus> but nothing works
[04:10] <Ndshacker> jmis: me too
[04:10] <musikgoat|main> has anyone told you about build-essential? Kraft_?
[04:11] <Kraft_> no ones mentioned anything about that no
[04:11] <fearful> musikgoat|main, I don't think we have
[04:11] <musikgoat|main> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:11] <segin> Kraft_: You may want to run "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:11] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: what are you trying? installing zsnes?
[04:11] <Kraft_> yes sir
[04:11] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: sudo apt-get install zsnes
[04:11] <jpbaa12> My wireless card is no detecting any networks, even after I put in the SSID (not broadcast) and password for my WAN and there are 2 unsecured available on other boxes.  Where do I start?
[04:11] <WalkTheLine> should i be concerned if firestarter shows some serious threats?
[04:11] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: its some basic build tools for linux source programs
[04:11] <segin> Kraft_: This will install the GNU toolchain (the GNU compiler and binutils), and some basic system libs
[04:12] <Kraft_> ok ok to get out of the zsnes folder, what should i type?  so i can get the GNU toolchain
[04:12] <jimisrvrox> Ndshacker mine I think I told you but when I do ndis I end up with after trying ifconfig wlan0 up I get ERROR interrupt flags: No Device or something to that affect and then on reboot hangs at starting bluetooth
[04:12] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: or if you like snes9x more  sudo apt-get install snes9x
[04:12] <lightbots> im learning bash at the moment, and im wondering if ubuntu 8.10 comes with bash?
[04:12] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: you don't have to do that
[04:12] <Ndshacker> Im not familiar with Ndis
[04:12] <ray_> using ubuntu, how can I run stream.raw file raw video file captured from webcam
[04:12] <DIFH-iceroot> lightbots: yes
[04:12] <Kraft_> not sure what one is the best
[04:12] <Ndshacker> Hence my frustration ;(
[04:12] <musikgoat|main> the sudo apt-get command is not dependent on the location
[04:12] <jimisrvrox> ahh there are plenty of vids out there
[04:12] <fearful> Kraft_, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:12] <shifty-tl> hello, I installed two mbrs on two harddrives when installing linux mint, so nothing boots, except when I have the windows cd in the tray... then everything is fine. I tried loading the windows cd and typing fixmbr, when prompted to log into a windows I noticed that it had D:/windows instead of c so I guess it failed to detect it. Sry I'm noobis in messing with the mbr don't know were to start
[04:12] <jimisrvrox> where are u stuck?
[04:13] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_:i like snes9x more but why are you trying to compile zsnes if it is in the repos?
[04:13] <hunus> somebody already solve the problem of wine about the fonts that dont appear in the screens??
[04:13] <Kraft_> oh it's installing
[04:13] <ika_ubuntu> i'm new here
[04:13] <Kraft_> the build essential
[04:13] <ika_ubuntu> hello
[04:13] <Ndshacker> ika: congratualations
[04:13] <bluepojo> Anyone know a good starting place to trouble shoot sound?
[04:13] <Kraft_> im not sure if its in the repos. i was reading the forums and saw the cool things to do with linux post blah blah blah
[04:13] <Ndshacker> :)
[04:13] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: DIFH-iceroot is right, if some thing is already built for your os, its usually not necessary to build it
[04:13] <praveen3> hello can any body help me
[04:13] <Kraft_> i used to have an emulator back in the day...
[04:14] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: it is in the repos, i was looking just a jew minutes ago
[04:14] <WalkTheLine> my fiance said, 'i am glad i am not the only one that gives you a headache' when i made a noise at ubuntu
[04:14] <ika_ubuntu> thank you
[04:14] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: sudo apt-get install zsnes
[04:14] <Kraft_> alright
[04:14] <jimisrvrox> jpb you may have the same issue I do where ubuntu is not detecting your wireless card
[04:14] <Kraft_> well that should be pretty easy to install than, haha!
[04:14] <bluepojo> sound? anyone? troubleshooting? poke?
[04:14] <jimisrvrox> if you are not getting any signal at all most likely you are going to have to install the win drivers
[04:14] <Brack101> hunus: http://appdb.winehq.org and lookup your application to see what's going on with it
[04:14] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: yes, its always easy to use the repos
[04:14] <lightbots> for bash, why then when I run a bash simple script the while or if get errors "while[1]: command not found"
[04:14] <ray_> hello, needs help on OpenLDAP on ubuntu
[04:15] <kc8pxy> WalkTheLine:  yes, that's the preffered security.   because anyone that is not you would have to jump trough the same hoops :)
[04:15] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: the build-essential set could come in use sometime in the future though
[04:15] <Ndshacker> psh, I give up on this shit network card :( not like I need wireless for a desktop
[04:15] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: you can search the repos for a program with "apt-cache search programname"
[04:15] <Kraft_> i was trying to do this s-video thing a few days ago and still haven't figured it out. had to restart my comp like 10 times with this nvidia x thing.  i gave up.
[04:15] <illmortal> Does anyone know of a good Desktop recorder that isn't a memory hog? :D
[04:15] <WalkTheLine> does linux have plug n play?? haha sorry  but I am a Windows man
[04:15] <Kraft_> alrighty
[04:15] <hunus> is cedega better than wine?
[04:15] <DIFH-iceroot> WalkTheLine: yes it has
[04:15] <PiscesM54> JOIN fevre
[04:15] <Ndshacker> mmmyes?
[04:15] <jpbaa12> jim - great, i think. how do i know
[04:15] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: "yes" it does
[04:15] <musikgoat|main> night
[04:15] <jimisrvrox> Ndshacker I wouldnt give up just yet
[04:15] <ika_ubuntu> walktheline
[04:15] <Ndshacker> jimis: I dont need it
[04:15] <WalkTheLine> Thanks kc8pxy, that makes sense now
[04:15] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: unless your device isn't 100% compatible
[04:15] <bluepojo> is there a package for games for zsnes, or is that something better left to your favorite p2p site?
[04:15] <jimisrvrox> oh well sure then go ahead heh
[04:16] <Ndshacker> It was for my laptop
[04:16] <jimisrvrox> me on the other hand its a PITA that I dont have i t
[04:16] <kc8pxy> WalkTheLine:  plug n play?
[04:16] <Ndshacker> which runs Auditor >.>
[04:16] <DIFH-iceroot> bluepojo: roms are not legal so there are of course not in the repos
[04:16] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: I assume you're talking about USB devices
[04:16] <bluepojo> oh. right.
[04:16] <bluepojo> fair enough.
[04:16] <ika_ubuntu> i'm new i n linux....why it use many command to install or whatever
[04:16] <bluepojo> forgot that detail.
[04:16] <Barridus> WalkTheLine, the impression i've gotten is that nvidia just makes crap ass drivers for linux.  i've had two machines now with nvidia that had some sort of severe but i had to shuffle around with workaround walkthroughs
[04:16] <ray_> help help help on skype sound on intrepid
[04:16] <Kraft_> @ Bluepojo you just type sudo apt-get install zsnes
[04:16]  * bluepojo moves to canada
[04:16] <DIFH-iceroot> bluepojo: np
[04:17] <bluepojo> DIFH-iceroot: <3
[04:17] <Flannel> ika_ubuntu: It doesn't.  You have to answer like six questions, and it installs.
[04:17] <bluepojo> Kraft_: have done so already. <3 thanks
[04:17] <jimisrvrox> Barridus...if you think nvidia is bad...just try ATI on linux :D
[04:17] <segin> bluepojo: No known games have ever been released that target the SNES platform that have permissive enough distribution terms to allow placement in either the free or non-free repositories.
[04:17] <Kraft_> np :)
[04:17] <shifty-tl> bump, mbr help plz :)
[04:17] <bluepojo> segin: gotcha
[04:17] <bluepojo> off to the green dragon then
[04:17]  * bluepojo moves to the swiss alps
[04:17] <Barridus> jimisrvrox, yeah for linux i think i'll stick with intel onboard video for now
[04:18] <bluepojo> anyway, my sound died one random day.
[04:18] <jimisrvrox> sure you can always do that :)
[04:18] <bluepojo> I don't know why.
[04:18] <jimisrvrox> save yourself probs with either nvidia or ati
[04:18] <bluepojo> it produces feint crackles
[04:18] <Brent2> i installed the fglrx ati radeon proprietary driver but am still getting a white screen when trying to start gnome. I cant run the "Restricted Driver Manager" through the console. any suggestions?
[04:18] <bluepojo> it's not the hardware, as it still works when I boot into windows
[04:18] <Barridus> yeah it's not like i game on the pc anymore (other than basic games) anyways
[04:18] <illmortal> Does anyone know of a good Desktop recorder that isn't a memory hog? :D
[04:18] <jimisrvrox> my issue is with this lovely linksys usb nic...ndis wont do the trick or nothing!
[04:18] <segin> bluepojo: The Pirate Bay is usually better if you go for BitTorrent. (note: I do not suggest you download illegal software torrents. There are plenty of legitimate torrents there as well, such as package complimation and distribution ISOs)
[04:18] <kc8pxy> Barridus: must have been bad luck., I've been using linux for nearly 10 years now,  and by and large, i have LESS trouble with nvidia drivers than any other 3d cards i've used.
[04:19] <bluepojo> segin: I use demonoid, usually.  I'm not a big fan of public trackers.
[04:19] <snachodog> what's the url of the site where I paste error code?
[04:19] <illmortal> kc8pxy i hear that! even on windows, ati gave me problems... -.-
[04:19] <DIFH-iceroot> !pastebin | snachodog
[04:19] <bluepojo> snachodog: try sprunge.us
[04:19] <shifty-tl> grub only works when the windows xp cd is in, any suggestions :)?
[04:19] <snachodog> thank you
[04:20] <segin> bluepojo: You'll find public trackers to be exellent if you enable sorting based on available seeders.
[04:20] <bluepojo> cat error.log | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[04:20] <jpbaa12> jimisrvrox, lshw is showing a driver associated with the card.  What now?
[04:20] <cj_sze1> can ubuntu server read more than 4 G of RAM  memory ?
[04:20] <WalkTheLine> welll i have a pcmcia card i am trying to install
[04:20] <bluepojo> cj_sze1: 64bit?
[04:20] <albertolempira> hey guys, I can't get my screen dimmed when changing the brightness in my HP Pavillion dv3000 series, does anybody know how can I fix it? thanks.
[04:20] <jeeves> what would the syntax be for a shell script to grep out a string from a log file, then e-mail from the CLI?
[04:20] <lightbots> I'm having a very weird problem. whatever command I type I keep getting "bash: ls: command not found". That go for all the command Except for the "pwd" and "echo" any idea why its doing that?
[04:20] <Barridus> kc8pxy, that is entirely possible.  i just wish i could find a valid resource on linux hardware, it's hard googling for results as every chipset possible has at least 5 idiots that goofed up, spoiling search results
[04:21] <Brent2> cam any one help me?
[04:21] <kc8pxy> cj_sze1:  why not? it's a kernel option
[04:21] <WalkTheLine> an orinoco card, i was told it was a good card that linux supports
[04:21] <cj_sze1> bluepojo: 32 bit
[04:21] <WalkTheLine> i have it plugged in now, but no wireless connection
[04:21] <Brent2> i installed the fglrx ati radeon proprietary driver but am still getting a white screen when trying to start gnome. I cant run the "Restricted Driver Manager" through the console. any suggestions?
[04:21] <cj_sze1> ubuntu serve edition 8.10
[04:21] <kc8pxy> WalkTheLine:  what does dmesg say about the card?
[04:21] <DIFH-iceroot> jeeves: cat /var/log/mail.info | grep yourstring | mailx -s subject mailadress
[04:22] <shifty-tl> what happens if you have 2 MBRs in two hard drives?
[04:22] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: Check PM
[04:22] <Kraft_> Hey, where does Zsnes install to
[04:22] <Kraft_> where do I launch the application
[04:22] <kc8pxy> shifty-tl: .....  what???
[04:22] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: aplikation - games
[04:22] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: or just type zsnes
[04:23] <snachodog> trying to get my xbox360 controller to work using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Controller and when I make I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132825/
[04:23] <jeeves> DIFH-iceroot, thanks, I'll try it
[04:23] <Kraft_> o ok
[04:23] <kc8pxy> Brent2:  what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say about it?
[04:23] <DIFH-iceroot> shifty-tl: the one is used you first boot from (bios)
[04:23] <cj_sze1> kc8pxy: so 8.10 server edition can read more than 4 G? right ?
[04:23] <shifty-tl> kc8pxy: well you see I tried installing linux mint today, ended up braking grub, now I know that there is another mbr on my storage HD, don't know how to fix that.
[04:23] <DIFH-iceroot> cj_sze1: you mean handle more then 4gb ram?
[04:23] <Brent2> i'll have to reboot back into ubuntu to look
[04:23] <zee> are there any known issues with installing on a lenovo t60p?
[04:24] <zee> regular install disk freezes on install.
[04:24] <shifty-tl> DIFH-iceroot: alright I'll check boot priorities see if that helps
[04:24] <zee> alt disk installs, and then freezes on boot.
[04:24] <kc8pxy> cj_sze1:  not sure,  I've avoided 8.10 personally.  the desktops I've installed are older hardware, and my servers run gentoo :)   but the linux kernel can address up to 64GB ram,  last i looked.
[04:25] <kc8pxy> shifty-tl:  so you have your box configured how?
[04:25] <shifty-tl> not yet restarting now brb
[04:26] <jpbaa12> lshw is showing a driver assigned to my wireless card, but i;m still not seeing any available networks.  What do I need to do?
[04:26] <illmortal> Does anyone know of a good Desktop recorder that isn't a memory hog? Please.
[04:27] <cj_sze> sorry i got DC with my connection
[04:27] <cj_sze> yes DiCK454_
[04:27] <kc8pxy> cj_sze1:  not sure,  I've avoided 8.10 personally.  the desktops I've installed are older hardware, and my servers run gentoo :)   but the linux kernel can address up to 64GB ram,  last i looked.
[04:28] <kc8pxy> cj_sze:  but there is a selector in the menuconfig that switches between 4GB adressable, and 64GB
[04:29] <bluepojo> so... no idea which is a good place to start troubleshooting my sound?  I have a feeling I need to reinstall my sound drivers, but I don't know exactly how to do that.
[04:29] <HentaiDebian> kc8pxy, its probably enabling PAE mode for 32bit os
[04:30] <bluepojo> anyone? anyone? bueller?
[04:30] <Kraft_> when can i get linux roms for zsnes
[04:31] <hey`> snes?
[04:31] <Brent2> mininova
[04:31] <bluepojo> Kraft_: your favorite bittorrent site
[04:31] <hey`> there's an emulator for that
[04:31] <Brent2> piratebay
[04:31] <hey`> you don't need special roms
[04:31] <Kraft_> thanks haha i totally forgot about them
[04:31] <Brent2> no
[04:32] <hey`> damn I feel lonely
[04:32] <jeeves> DIFH-iceroot, thanks, again, that worked perfectly.
[04:32] <hey`> :(
[04:32] <ika_ubuntu> bluepojo
[04:32] <ika_ubuntu> hi....hey..why u lonely?
[04:32] <meshuggah> heya everyone
[04:33] <hey`> my gf, she just broke me up.
[04:33] <hey`> ...I was like I don't care, but now, I don't know.
[04:33] <hey`> *broke up with me
[04:33] <Kraft_> compiz is really cool.
[04:34] <snachodog> trying to get my Xbox 360 controller to work using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Controller  When I make I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132825/
[04:34] <shifty-tl> kc8pxy: well it was already set up correctly, its still broken, although I can boot if I have the windows xp cd in the tray. So my first mbr doesnt work I get no partition error.
[04:34] <albertolempira> hey guys, I can't get my screen dimmed when changing the brightness in my HP Pavillion dv3000 series, does anybody know how can I fix it? thanks.
[04:34] <wolter> albertolempira, you mean, like a smooth transition of brightness levels?
[04:34] <wolter> between
[04:34] <meoblast001> hi
[04:35] <wolter> meoblast001, whats up pup?
[04:35] <meoblast001> the usb-creator is telling me that my iso is not a desktop iso... how do i fix this?
[04:35] <meoblast001> i'm feading it a debian live-cd iso
[04:36] <albertolempira> wolter, no, i can't get changed the brightness level at all... the Fn key works and the brightness bar changes but the intensity its always the same.
[04:36] <meoblast001> fixed it
[04:37] <Gentoon> I did a sudo passwd and now when that box pops up and says it needs root permissions (like for symantic) it breaks?
[04:37] <Kraft_> HAHA wow Xjump Sucks
[04:37] <wolter> albertolempira, oh, that's strange..
[04:38] <Gentoon> Anyone?
[04:38] <albertolempira> wolter, yeah, and its kind of annoying...
[04:38] <Kraft_> i got to floor 15 on xjump
[04:38] <leandro> hi
[04:39] <meshuggah> i want to use my keyboard like a virtual piano with midi notes, someone can heklp me
[04:39] <shifty-tl> kc8pxy: well it was already set up correctly, its still broken, although I can boot if I have the windows xp cd in the tray. So my first mbr doesnt work I get no partition error.
[04:40] <ika_ubuntu> hey
[04:40] <wolter> albertolempira, i guess.. check on the battery preferences, there is something about the display dim and other stuff
[04:41] <shifty-tl> kc8pxy: or maybe its not there and it defaults to the second mbr which also doesn't work
[04:41] <cj_sze> ahh, okay.. thanks guys
[04:41] <cj_sze> :)
[04:41] <Kraft_> ofmg lvl 40 on xjump
[04:41] <Kraft_> you cant beat me!
[04:42] <sexcopter> hi, i'm using virtualbox to try out win7 beta (host is ubuntu 8.10), and win7 doesn't have drivers for the network card. google says to choose intel NIC, but i don't see it in the list (only PCnet-FAST III and PCnet-PCI II). any ideas how to "get more NICs"?
[04:42] <albertolempira> wolter, i have checked that already, and nothing... i think i'll have to wait 'till this get fixed...
[04:43] <Kraft_> i have 600gb of hard drive space, and a fresh install of ubuntu.  what should i install?
[04:43] <mylisto> can't compile this gd program!!!!!!!!!
[04:43] <maverick340> everytime i use the send to (evolution) plugin three forward slashed precede the email ID i want to send it to
[04:44] <maverick340> for eg, i say send to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:44] <irfan> how to use remot desktop
[04:44] <illmortal> Does anyone know of a good Desktop recorder that isn't a memory hog? Please halp!
[04:44] <maverick340> evoltuion in the composer windows opens with TO<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:44] <snachodog> trying to get my Xbox 360 Controller to work using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Controller  When I make I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132825/
[04:44] <maverick340> and obviously the mail delivery fails then ..
[04:44] <Kraft_> If it ain't broke, you obviously haven't f***ed with it enough.
[04:45] <shifty-tl> well lets see, I got a problem in which my MBR is broken, I tried to use the windows xp cd and in the recovery console, but I wasn't able to log into my c:/windows partition, it had D;/ instead, which I think doesn't exist
[04:45] <Still286ing> how to install ubuntu to a 286/8 with enough ram to almost fit the average for a standard webpage please?
[04:45] <illmortal> o.O; LOL
[04:45] <AnyaJ> is there a way to be able to tell what version of libraries you have installed on your computer?
[04:45] <irfan_> how to use desktop viwer
[04:46] <[F]ORCED-INDUCT[> ya use synaptic
[04:46] <[F]ORCED-INDUCT[> it shows the versions of the libs
[04:46] <irfan_> tell me any body
[04:46] <segin> irfan_: Desktop viewer?
[04:46] <mylisto> how do I use make?
[04:46] <segin> mylisto: make
[04:46] <irfan_> segin:yes
[04:47] <segin> iratsu: Which "Desktop Viewer"?
[04:47] <ika_ubuntu> try2free
[04:48] <mylisto> segin: its not working
[04:48] <mylisto> also tried ./configure
[04:48] <ika_ubuntu> mrded
[04:48] <mylisto> ./configure: No such file or directory
[04:48] <segin> mylisto: Try reading the error messages instead of just complaining blindly about them.
[04:49] <kindofabuzz>  ./config
[04:49] <kindofabuzz> oh nvm
[04:49] <mylisto> segin: thats the error message I got
[04:49] <kindofabuzz> AnyaJ, look in Synaptic
[04:49] <ika_ubuntu> hello...
[04:49] <segin> mylisto: well...
[04:49] <shifty-tl> ok so MBR is broken, I went to repair mode with windows cd, but I can't log into C:/Windows, it has D:/ instead, which doesn't exist. How else can I fix this? I recently installed linux mint.
[04:50] <segin> mylisto: Did you consult the source package's README, INSTALL, and/or COMPILING files (if they exist)?
[04:50] <AnyaJ> kindofabuzz, there's no command line method?
[04:50] <segin> mylisto: Not all source packages use GNU autotools, and thus do not have a configure script.
[04:50] <AnyaJ> like i know some programs have program --version
[04:51] <keen_> how do you change your default audio device?
[04:51] <Kraft_> My audio doesn't work when I try to play mario kart in zsnes!  Help me
[04:51] <kindofabuzz> AnyaJ, aptitude show <package name>
[04:51] <kindofabuzz> that will show all the deatails about the package
[04:51] <Gentoon> I did sudo passwd and now the lil GUI that asks for root permissions when running things like symantic is broken, how can i fix it?
[04:51] <segin> Kraft_: ...
[04:51] <Anna_111> shifty-tl : try fdisk /mbr at dos prompt
[04:51] <segin> Kraft_: That could be caused by nearly anything.
[04:52] <Ndshacker> hm, does nayone here feel ok with looking at my partition set up?
[04:52] <AnyaJ> thanks kindofabuzz
[04:52] <Gentoon> Doesn't seem they actually do support here
[04:52] <segin> Kraft_: Misconfigured SDL libraries, gstreamer/esd/aRts failing to release the audio device for use by other programs, etc.
[04:52] <kindofabuzz> AnyaJ, np
[04:53] <Anna_111> Ndshacker: paste it on pastebin
[04:53] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: windows right?
[04:53] <Ndshacker> mmk
[04:53] <ika_ubuntu> may i know that the video from windows can play at ubuntu?
[04:53] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, everyone here is just users like you. there are no official ubuntu reps here
[04:53] <ika_ubuntu> nate
[04:53] <joseph> hi
[04:53] <doleyb> Gentoon: people will answer questions though.... well-formed questions.
[04:53] <Anna_111> shifty-tl : well.. command prompt .. do a reboot and boot to command prompt
[04:53] <Gentoon> kindofabuzz: Yes I know this, what is your point/
[04:53] <joseph> who has a ps3
[04:54] <Gentoon> doleyb: Obviously not.
[04:54] <doleyb> ika_ubuntu: you can play many kinds of video, see medibuntu though.
[04:54] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, i thought you were complaining about you not getting any help or something
[04:54] <doleyb> Gentoon: trolling won't get it answered
[04:54] <Kraft_> oh well
[04:54] <Gentoon> kindofabuzz: I was, this is a support channel
[04:54] <joseph> who has a laptop runing ubuntu
[04:54] <magicdanw> hey all!  i seem to be having a spontaneous problem.  when i rebooted my computer today (after some automatic updates) my sound stopped working.  does anyone know what i can do to try to fix this?
[04:54] <Gentoon> doleyb: You are trolling not me, mind your business please.
[04:54] <joseph> never update
[04:54] <magicdanw> @joseph i have a laptop running linux
[04:54] <maxagaz> what's the difference between LDAP and DNS servers ?
[04:55] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, ever thought that no one knows an answer to your problem. and remember, google is your buddie
[04:55] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: I can't boot into anything, it tells me partition is not there. Except if I have the windows xp cd in tray, so I do fdisk /mbr in msdos?
[04:55] <joseph> i do to
[04:55] <mesohorny> joseph is my bfs name
[04:55] <Gentoon> kindofabuzz: Go away, it is a simple question and I did google, don't assume things.
[04:55] <joseph> but my broke
[04:55] <magicdanw> anyway, does anyone have any idea why my sound card stopped producing sound?  there are no errors, just no sound out of speaker or headphone jack
[04:55] <usser> maxagaz, they are two different things :)
[04:55] <joseph> do you have a ps3
[04:55] <Anna_111> shifty-tl: sorry.. don't know what to say expect this.. do you have an external hdd case?
[04:55] <segin> magicdanw: is it muted?
[04:56] <mesohorny> yes i do
[04:56] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: no :)
[04:56] <javamonger_> Hello. I want to install ubuntu on a machine with bad memory using the BadRAM kernel patch.  How can I rebuild the ubuntu 8.10 livecd with a different kernel (or just replace the existing one with my own)?
[04:56] <doleyb> Gentoon: a well-formed question doesn't end with "is broken how can I fix it"
[04:56] <magicdanw> @segin it's not muted
[04:56] <Gentoon> doleyb: Either did my question now stfu
[04:56] <joseph> how many games do you own
[04:56] <wiredwilly> ok so where are the user names?
[04:56] <mesohorny> 11
[04:56] <magicdanw> @segin it happened right after i rebooted.  i believe some updates were installed earlier today, but i don't know what they were
[04:56] <maxagaz> usser, actually, i understand the DNS, but why is LDAP useful ?
[04:56] <segin> javamonger_: Have you conidered replacing the memory?
[04:56] <javamonger_> I already have the kernel with the BadRAM patch built
[04:56] <joseph> 12
[04:56] <javamonger_> segin: not interested
[04:56] <mesohorny> cool
[04:57] <Anna_111> shifty-tl: If your data is really important I would suggest getting the hdd out, putting it in an external enclosure and connect to your current PC to transfer all the files
[04:57] <joseph> tits
[04:57] <Gentoon> ?
[04:57] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, if you'd actuall explain your question instead of "I did sudo passwd and now the lil GUI that asks for root permissions when running things like symantic is broken, how can i fix it?' you might get better help
[04:57] <segin> javamonger_: If the memory is bad, your best bet is to simply replace the defective modules.
[04:57] <mesohorny> tits?
[04:57] <mesohorny> why did he go?
[04:57] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: yea, need to get one, untill then I can only boot with the windows cd XD
[04:57] <javamonger_> segin: not a sufficient solution.
[04:58] <Ndshacker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/132831/
[04:58] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: Get it working?
[04:58] <javamonger_> segin: you don't have to be afraid of bad memory if you understand it
[04:58] <Gentoon> kindofabuzz: Just because you don't understand things doesn't mean it wasn't explained well. Now STFU I don't want help from you, you don't know what you are talking about.
[04:58] <Ndshacker> Made by hand, butyou get the drift :|
[04:58] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, you probably enabled the root account didn't you?
[04:58] <javamonger_> segin: and no need to waste so much
[04:58] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: weird but thats the only way I can get around it. put the win cd, wait till it times out then grub works
[04:58] <mesohorny> !list
[04:58] <Anna_111> shifty-tl.. do you have 2 physical drives C and D?
[04:58] <jpbaa1> my wireless card is not picking up any networks.  LSHW is showing a driver for it.  What now?
[04:58] <usser> maxagaz, ldap is for centralized authentication, per user restrictions etc. active directory on windows uses ldap
[04:58] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, neither do you looks like.
[04:58] <kinja-sheep> I have 1024 x 600 resolution (7" subnotebook).  Is it possible to have more resolutions?  (Not the monitor but the displaying?)
[04:58] <javamonger_> So simple question, how do I replace the kernel in the ubuntu 8.10 livecd or build my own?
[04:58] <Gentoon> kindofabuzz: Obviously, thats what sudo passwd does, god.
[04:58] <Swin_> I've got a failed drive I'm trying to recover data from. BIOS is detecting its label as 'BzBzBzBzBzBzBzBzBzBz BzBzBz' ;p. dmesg tells me it 'failed to IDENTIFY' so I have no access: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132829/ Can I manually specify this information somehow?
[04:59] <segin> kinja-sheep: yes
[04:59] <tritium> !attitude | Gentoon
[04:59] <meshuggah> who is the canadian speaking spannish needing help here
[04:59] <Gentoon> tritium: Please leave me alone. Thank you.
[04:59] <wiredwilly> anyone know how to backup the system
[04:59] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: yes I do, C is were the mbr was, now there is another one on D
[04:59] <kinja-sheep> segin: What is it that I'm looking for exactly?
[04:59] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, yeah, and if you googled like you said you'd see that that can break things.
[04:59] <mesohornier> better?
[04:59] <cornbread> anyone have issues with multiple keypresses in ubuntu while in microsoft VPC 2007?
[04:59] <Gentoon> kindofabuzz: I obviously already know it can break things, thats why i am here. Do you have a disability or something?
[04:59] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: install linux again and it did that, I could try fixing it with Gparted but I'm scared that it'll erase my data
[05:00] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, try disabling the root account, not that hard. usually when you mess something up the simple thing to do is to reverse it
[05:00] <Brack101> cornbread: VPC isn't tested with linux...you really need to use virtualbox
[05:00] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: * I installed...
[05:00] <tritium> Gentoon: drop the attitude.
[05:00] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, i think you do, i just told you 3 times what to do
[05:00] <segin> kinja-sheep: I don't know. I access my PC from a DEC VT100 serial dumb terminal; I don't know much of resolutions or the like :)
[05:00] <Gentoon> kindofabuzz: Thats what I am here to find out how to do, as I have already stated 6 times now, just don't talk please.
[05:00] <javamonger_> is there another chat room for more development-oriented questions?
[05:00] <cornbread> Brack101, so virtualbox is tested and runs ubuntu fine?
[05:00] <Kraft_> what is "emacs"?
[05:00] <wiredwilly> what is the problem?
[05:00] <Brack101> segin: how do you manage with only four function keys?
[05:00] <kindofabuzz> lol
[05:01] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: its alright, I
[05:01] <Brack101> cornbread: yeah, works great...uses less resources too
[05:01] <doleyb> Kraft_: emacs is an old, complex, powerful text editor program.  If you have to ask what emacs is, you probably shouldn't use emacs
[05:01] <cornbread> Brack101, awesome thanks!
[05:01] <Kraft_> well i just downloaded it for no reason.
[05:01] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: its alright, I'll fix it later, thanks though, Good night :)
[05:01] <Kraft_> oh well i have 600 GB of space.
[05:01] <Kraft_> i also tinker a lot, screw everything up, then ask for help on the forums.......thrilling.....i know.........
[05:01] <kindofabuzz> emacs is an OS in itself =)
[05:02] <kindofabuzz> Kraft_, that's how you learn
[05:02] <Anna_111> shifty-tl np
[05:02] <Brack101> cornbread: yeah no problem.  I use it every day at work and I love it
[05:02] <Kraft_> yes it is
[05:02] <wiredwilly> does anyone know how to run MS access in wine?
[05:02] <kindofabuzz> wiredwilly, why not just fine an open source alternative?
[05:03] <spamjam> does anybody know the colors for metacity in rgb so i can put them into emerald running vrunner? please :)
[05:03] <usser> wiredwilly, office 2003 should install just fine in wine
[05:03] <SandGorgon> guys.. some help please - i have particularly nasty crash where my Ubuntu Intrepid just crashes and I go to the BIOS screen after using Virtualbox in a certain way. Can anyone tell me how to get more information, so I can file a bug?
[05:03] <spamjam> the default intrepid colors
[05:03] <wiredwilly> but does access work
[05:03] <Anna_111> shifty-tl.. do you have 2 physical drives C and D? if not I would suggest not using the windows cd to login
[05:03] <L3dPlatedLinux> was wondering about a small music player like quark but that works
[05:03] <kindofabuzz> wiredwilly, http://www.openoffice.org/  =)
[05:04] <spamjam> L3dPlatedLinux: have you tried audacious?
[05:04] <kinja-sheep> !dpi
[05:04] <kinja-sheep> !font
[05:04] <Kraft_> are there any military channels on IRC
[05:04] <Kraft_> like marines
[05:04] <wolter> should i be able to view my own ssh server using avahi?
[05:04] <L3dPlatedLinux> yeah
[05:04] <wiredwilly> i have openoffice already but at work i use access
[05:05] <segin> Brack101: esc-# is good substitute for missing fn keys in curses apps
[05:05] <wiredwilly> i did fine the only way was to use virtualbox
[05:06] <jpbaa1> Anyone available for wireless help
[05:06] <Brack101> segin: can't you at least upgrade to a vt220?? c'mon man
[05:06] <Icebuntu> !ns
[05:06] <doleyb> !anyone
[05:07] <wiredwilly> if you have Aeros forget it
[05:07] <segin> Brack101: nah, my three connector PC is fine as it is
[05:07] <jpbaa1> how do i diagnose a wireless card not detecting any network?
[05:08] <doleyb> jpbaa1: what card (and laptop) do you have?
[05:09] <doleyb> jpbaa1: (I am afraid you'll say atheros)
[05:09] <cjsarette> what does "iwlist eth0 scan" do?
[05:09] <jpbaa1> doley - correct.  on an aspire one
[05:10] <Kurrupt> Thank you all! Good night=)
[05:10] <cjae> ok I was told here to make a url link from say /media/winblows/mymusic to my ubuntu (8.04) was to drag it onto the desktop but this is not true, this copies the folder there, I want a shortcut
[05:10] <wiredwilly> where are the settings for apache2 located?
[05:10] <jpbaa1> "Interface doesn't support scan"
[05:10] <cjae> to my ubuntu desktop that should say
[05:11] <wiredwilly> i mean the cgi and the php stuff
[05:11] <cjae> right click and drag does not work either
[05:11] <millertime_018> hey I'm having some serious computer trouble
[05:11] <Newbuntu> hey has anyone here used google chrome and if so do you think it would be posibble to tab system windows withdrop and drag in ubuntu as you can in chrome with webpages?
[05:11] <millertime_018> I lost a Built-in HDD User password
[05:12] <Reidy> Whenever I open up WoW, sometimes I can get to the ToS screen, other times I get an error and I can't open WoW. If I get to the ToS screen, it doesn't display my pointer, and after about 10-15 seconds my screen goes crazy, and eventually turns black. I have to reboot to fix this. Anyone able to help figure out the problem and solve it?
[05:12] <cjsarette> u need madwifi
[05:12] <cjsarette> jpbaa1
[05:13] <jpbaa1> cjsarette-"interface doesn't suppor scan"
[05:13] <cjsarette> ok jpbaa1, go to https://svn.madwifi.org/
[05:13] <cjsarette> and download madwifi
[05:13] <wiredwilly> hey madwifi could not install in my labtop
[05:14] <cjsarette> extract and go to folder, then do "sudo make" then "sudo make install"
[05:14] <ray_> anybody here to help on OpenLDAP
[05:14] <ray_> ???
[05:14] <ray_> ??
[05:14] <ray_> ?
[05:14] <fiber_cut> Is there a way to get better resolution on a eee pc running ubuntu other than 800x600
[05:15] <wiredwilly> there was a message saying something was broken up
[05:15] <yoophglup_> hey does anyone know about vinagre and remote desktop connection??
[05:15] <cjsarette> jpbaa1, after that, reboot and do a "modprobe ath_pci"
[05:15] <wolter> Reidy, this is not the correct place to ask this, however, try running it with -opengl flag
[05:15] <cjsarette> jpbaa1, after that it should be good to go
[05:16] <jeeves> how do I set up a VPN client on my Ubuntu laptop?
[05:16] <jpbaa1> thank you!  I'll give it a shot.  Hopefully I won't be back...  But don't go anywhere just in case:-D
[05:16] <yoophglup_> i have everything setup correctly and I can remote desktop from localhost and from a virtualPC installed on the computer, but I cant connect with other computers on my network or on the net?????
[05:16] <Reidy> @ Wolter: I am running it with the -opengl command. It works for like a second, then goes haywire.
[05:16] <wiredwilly> what works with mirc?
[05:16] <cjsarette> btw, its madwifi.org , not svn.madwifi.org, i put it wrong above
[05:17] <doleyb> fiber_cut: Most eee pcs can do better than 800x600
[05:17] <Still286ing> yeh under windows
[05:17] <wolter> Reidy, wouldn't know then.. and also
[05:17] <wolter> !tab | Reidy
[05:18] <yoophglup_> do you need to install lamp in order to use remote desktop connections?
[05:18] <jeeves> anyone?  VPN setup?
[05:18] <wiredwilly> does anyone know what works or connects to MIRC?
[05:18] <Reidy> What channel would I be able to go to that would be able to help with setting that stuff up?
[05:19] <crdlb> jpbaa1: you have an atheros 242x on intrepid?
[05:19] <yoophglup_> mirc is software used to connect to the irc network.  It is windows software.  you can use any irc client to connect to the same irc network
[05:20] <mib_1i1n9c> I am using http://www.mibbit.com/ for IRC as IRC prtocol is blocked in our college.....................I want to join #kubuntu but I a receive this msg "	[#ubuntu-proxy-users] /!\ ATTENTION /!\ This is NOT #ubuntu. | You have been sent to this channel because you are using a proxy service such as Tor or Cgi:IRC. There are better ways to be anonymous. | CGI:IRC users, try connecting to freenode via port 8000, 8001 or 800
[05:21] <L3dPlatedLinux> kinda wish audcious had a tray icon ?
[05:21] <zelda> Does anyone know if hauppauge HVR-1800 works in linux?
[05:21] <crdlb> jpbaa1: if so, there is a much easier solution than installing madwifi from source
[05:23] <Fudge> !wireless
[05:23] <jpbaa1> cjsarette - off to reboot!
[05:26] <ikabun> i dont know my laptop cannot connect wireless
[05:27] <yoophglup> so does anyone know how to get remote desktop to work?
[05:27] <XtrHotMarSpy> ikabun, is it a pcmia wireless card?
[05:27] <arogers1> I'm having some weird network activity coming from my box, wondering if somebody might be able to help me identify it. Basically just tons of RQs from my machine to random IPs on port 8500. Netstat -p doesn't show them, but wireshark and etherape do
[05:28] <Corey-Bear> Sup Everyone
[05:28] <Laurenceb> hi, I have a window hidden behind my taskbar
[05:28] <Corey-Bear> Happy Saint Pats everyone
[05:28] <Laurenceb> how can I close it?
[05:28] <arogers1> laurenceb: use the task manager
[05:28] <yoophglup> move the task bar
[05:28] <shadowh511> Laurence: save all you work and log out then back in
[05:28] <Corey-Bear> yeah
[05:28] <arogers1> under system
[05:29] <Laurenceb> well its a control thingy for google earth
[05:29] <SandGorgon> sorry for posting here guys, but i'm at a loss on what to do - on using VirtualBox 2.1.4 (a particular VM) - my host crashes and goes straight to power on (BIOS screen). How do I gather debug information, so I can file an appropriate bug - I can understand Vbox itself crashing - but taking down the host?
[05:29] <Laurenceb> each time I start google earth it appears
[05:29] <yoophglup> press ctrl alt and backspace
[05:29] <Laurenceb> tried that
[05:29] <Laurenceb> each time I start google earth it appears
[05:29] <jpbaa1> cjsarette - sadly, I return...  Still no dice
[05:29] <shadowh511> Laurenceb:its called a software bug, please file it
[05:30] <yoophglup> move your task bar then move it
[05:30] <Laurenceb> doh
[05:30] <Laurenceb> yeah that might work
[05:30] <crdlb> jpbaa1: what does 'lspci | grep -i atheros' say?
[05:30] <Laurenceb> ok... its litterally jammed at the top of my screen
[05:31] <Laurenceb> the minimize button is hidden
[05:31] <jpbaa1> cjs - 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[05:32] <yoophglup> why would something work on loopback but not on the network?
[05:32] <crdlb> jpbaa1: and this is intrepid?
[05:32] <jpbaa1> lshw shows the driver as ath_pci now
[05:32] <jpbaa1> yes
[05:32] <arogers1> can anybody help me with this network problem?
[05:32] <Laurenceb> ah got rid of it
[05:33] <Laurenceb> had to change some options in google earth and it vanished, thanks anyway
[05:33] <yoophglup> whats wrong with your network
[05:33] <arogers1> I'm having some weird network activity coming from my box, wondering if somebody might be able to help me identify it. Basically just tons of RQs from my machine to random IPs on port 8500. Netstat -p doesn't show them, but wireshark and etherape do
[05:33] <crdlb> jpbaa1: hopefully you didn't make anything worse doing whatever you just did :)
[05:33] <owl_> ?DCC SEND "๏̯͡๏﴿" 0 0 0
[05:33] <jpbaa1> as long as it's not irepparable...:-D
[05:33] <crdlb> jpbaa1: the solution is simple: install linux-backports-modules-intrepid, then go to system->admin>hw drivers and switch the driver
[05:34] <arogers1> yoophgulp?
[05:34] <arogers1> *glup
[05:34] <jpbaa1> how do i install backports?
[05:34] <sprinkmeier> arogers1, are you initiating the traffic? you might have inherited someone elses IP addressand getting noise from their P2P connections
[05:34] <SWiM> ?DCC SEND "๏̯͡๏﴿" 0 0 0
[05:34] <crdlb> jpbaa1: with any package manager
[05:35] <jpbaa1> yeah, it's currently running me in circles asking for password... but still not showing any of the unsec. networks...  i'll give it a shot
[05:36] <dolo> I can't seem to get my mic to work in game
[05:36] <arogers1> sprinkmeier : There are a lot of ICMP "destination unreachable"s coming from my machine and going outbound and a lot of random IPs sending me data inbound. What's odd is that I'm behind a NAT, so I shouldn't be getting any inbound traffic that I didn't initiate
[05:36] <xzirrow> is there anyone who can help with optimizing starting scripts ? i've got some questions ... please help
[05:36] <sprinkmeier> arogers1, check the NAT gateway?
[05:36] <arogers1> that could be it
[05:37] <crdlb> jpbaa1: you'll be switching to the ath5k driver, which will be default in jaunty
[05:37] <arogers1> I'll go take a look
[05:37] <arogers1> thanks!
[05:37] <dolo> The game im running is quake wars , any one here play or know to make the mic work?
[05:37] <arogers1> dolo: does your mic work outside of the game?
[05:37] <sprinkmeier> xzirrow, optimize how?
[05:37] <dolo> yes
[05:37] <shadowh511> hey, my jaunty system refuses to install packages I want
[05:38] <shadowh511> not even bison will install
[05:38] <arogers1> if you go into the audio settings does it show that a mic exists?
[05:38] <crdlb> shadowh511: ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:38] <dolo> ya
[05:38] <arogers1> are you sure you have the volume on?
[05:38] <jpbaa1> crdlb: find it in synaptic?
[05:38] <dolo> ... yes
[05:38] <tokeefe> Has anyone else experienced ubuntu hanging upon resume when you have the fglrx ATI driver installed?
[05:38] <arogers1> had to ask, sorry
[05:38] <jpbaa1> sorry, how do i?
[05:38] <arogers1> not sure, that's weird
[05:39] <crdlb> jpbaa1: sure, or use 'sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid'
[05:39] <Dolo> well the game by default is oss but i had some problems so i switched everything to asla
[05:39] <Dolo> but the mic no longer seems to work
[05:39] <Dolo> not being recognized by the game
[05:39] <arogers1> this is just a regular mic port mic right, not like a USB mic or anything?
[05:39] <Fudge> hi, i tried to build build-essential with apt-get after changing my source.list to cd rom in /etc/apt/source.list, but when the cd is asked for, i hit enter and kit continues to want the cd. i can browse the cd and it is mounted. why is this happening, ubuntu 8.10 amd64
[05:40] <Dolo> ive tryed altering the game cfg with no luck its as thought the game no longer sees my mic
[05:40] <xzirrow> sprinkmeier, i'm currently using my laptop with ubuntu in two ways : at work for web development , at home - to see movies & etc, and at home i don't need apache or mysql starting during boot. Is there any way to make smth like 'booting profiles' ?
[05:40] <Dolo> naw pluged in the red hole
[05:40] <arogers1> sounds like you should switch back to oss when you play the gamee
[05:40] <arogers1> or was it having problems in-game with it?
[05:40] <arogers1> *game
[05:40] <Dolo> well in oss i got crackling noises
[05:41] <Dolo> reason i switched to asla
[05:41] <arogers1> not sure than
[05:41] <arogers1> *then. that's weird
[05:41] <sprinkmeier> xzirrow, runlevels?traditionally 5 = X, 3 = console, but there's no reason (other than sanity :-) why you can't change those. I'd put something in /etc/rc.local that detects you're at the office and then fires off apache etc.
[05:41] <arogers1> not really my area of expertise : (
[05:41] <Dolo> also alsa gave me 5 second delays in sound
[05:41] <Dolo> not asla
[05:41] <Dolo> the first one oss
[05:41] <Dolo> so i swithed to asla and everything runs great
[05:41] <Dolo> but for some reason no mic
[05:42] <Dolo> ive tested it with mic capture and the mic test in sounds
[05:42] <Fudge> anyone know why building packages from cd with apt-get woudl result in the cd beign asked for all the time even when its inserted?
[05:42] <gRunt> Hey all can anyone recommend a good media player for music that acts a lot like winamp with resizing and moving etc. I might end up using amarok but im not a huge fan of the way it looks
[05:43] <sprinkmeier> Fudge, does the CD mount at the expected mountpoint?
[05:43] <Fudge> hi KillerOrca,
[05:43] <xzirrow> sprinkmeier, may be somehow i can set up some my vars at grub for boot ? and afterthat modify different /etc/init.d/scripts, to vary from my vars
[05:43] <Kraft_> @ gRunt xine or totem
[05:43] <Fudge> sprinkmeier i dont hear the cd spin up
[05:43] <gRunt> Kraft_, thanks will google em now and try and get some screenies
[05:43] <sprinkmeier> xzirrow, yeah... check /proc/cmdline in the rc scripts... nice one!
[05:44] <Fudge> im trying to install build-essential gcc and other deps to get madwifi going sprinkmeier
[05:44] <Reidy> Anyone able to help me out with a World of Warcraft related question?
[05:44] <mrded> тутурутутутутууууу
[05:44] <mrded> !!
[05:44] <sprinkmeier> Fudge, does apt expect the cd to be mounted at /media/cdrom or something? and does the CD mount to /media/Ubuntu8 or something else (i.e. using labels)
[05:44] <mrded> есть кто русский?
[05:44] <KillerOrca> I am running apt-get upgrade && install, but I have 6 packages that won't upgrade, any ideas?
[05:44] <sergey> да
[05:44] <mrded> забавно
[05:45] <sergey> не то слово! )
[05:45] <Flannel> !ru | sergey, mrded
[05:45] <asturiano> alguien sabe xk el irc-hispano no va
[05:45] <Fudge> sprinkmeier thats possible, i didnt think of that, how would i cahnge where it wants it to be mounted. can i cahgne in the source.list cdrom to the label?
[05:45] <sprinkmeier> KillerOrca, do you need an "apt-get update" there somewhere?
[05:45] <Fudge> sorry change i mean
[05:45] <sergey> ubottu ОК !
[05:45] <sprinkmeier> Fudge, cheat... "sudo ln -s /media/whatever /media/cdrom" then run apt again
[05:45] <KillerOrca> sprinkmeier, ah I meant update
[05:46] <root> hello
[05:46] <doleyb> Hiya ROOT
[05:46] <Fudge> ah yes thankyou sprinkmeier
[05:46] <Fudge> :)
[05:46] <Fudge> very much
[05:46] <xzirrow> sprinkmeier, ok i'll try - thanks for that '/proc/cmdline' stuff... but i still got _huge_ problem - in my work i intend to use VirtualBox, to run another systems, to see my sites in different browser. So VirtualBox using DKMS to make smth with vboxdrv& etc...
[05:47] <sprinkmeier> KillerOrca, "wont update" == some kind of error message?
[05:47] <shadowh511> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/344007 help plz
[05:47] <nefrin> Greetings: I was recently trying to uninstall OpenOffice 2.4 and upgrade to 3.0, however after I uninstalled, now my computer won't work. I get the ubuntu splash screen, and then just a black screen with a mouse curser. Right now I'm on live CD
[05:47] <kindofabuzz> new webmin is out for those of you that care =)
[05:47] <xzirrow> sprinkmeier, and it taking too long to make it. Have any ideas - how can i customize it ? DKMS especcialy ?
[05:47] <Guest59367> What is here makes?
[05:48] <KillerOrca> sprinkmeier, yeah there is an error message, but it seems unrelated to the packages that won't update, I'll paste it
[05:48] <gRunt> Okay one more question. I have this machine on dual boot, while linux is my main OS I keep all my media in a seperate NTFS parition so both my operating systems can read from it. Is there a way I can place a shortcut to a folder in that parition without having to always mount that drive if that makes any sense.
[05:48] <nefrin> ok, got flood botted for my problem: Ubuntu splash will show on boot up, but then I just get a black screen with a mouse pointer
[05:48] <sprinkmeier> xzirrow, sorry, don't even know hwat DKMS is (virtualisation stuff?) I'd be tempted to park the cirtualisation stuff on a desktop PC (better disk bandwidth) and ssh/X into it while at the office.
[05:48] <Newbuntu> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:48] <Newbuntu> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[05:49] <Newbuntu> anyone explain that too me
[05:49] <Newbuntu> i am root
[05:49] <shadowh511> Newbuntu: close synaptic, update managet, aptitude, anything that uses apt
[05:49] <KillerOrca> sprinkmeier, http://paste.ubuntu.com/132852/
[05:49] <Brack101> nefrin: moust pointer?  or text cursor?
[05:49] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, use automount to mount on demand, or mangle fstab to mount at boot. recommend mounting NTFS ro
[05:49] <Newbuntu> haha cheers shadow
[05:49] <nefrin> Brack101 - mouse pointer on a black screen
[05:50] <xzirrow> sprinkmeier, DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module blah-blah . But still thanks
[05:50] <Brack101> nefrin: sounds like your xorg is borked
[05:50] <nefrin> Brack101 - the changes I made prior to this was uninstalling OpenOffice 2.4 to install 3.0
[05:50] <Brack101> nefrin: right I saw that
[05:50] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, is automount an app? Again if so how would I create an icon that links to a folder from that partition. I tried creating a new launcher to the folder in that parition but I must have stuffed up the path it didn't work/
[05:50] <sprinkmeier> KillerOrca, "404 Not Found" old repo?
[05:51] <nefrin> Brack101: can you help me fix my xorg?
[05:51] <KillerOrca> sprinkmeier, yeah, but it looks unrelated to the non-upgrading packages
[05:51] <shadowh511> befrin, in the shape of an x?
[05:51] <Brack101> nefrin: yeah...when you boot up push control alt f1 to get a command prompt
[05:51] <Brack101> then I forget how to reconfigure xorg
[05:51] <nefrin> shadow511: no, it's just a standard mouse pointer
[05:52] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, automount is a daemon that monitors directories. If the directory is accesses it mounts some resource, then unmounts it when the directory goes idle again. Used to be used to mount CD's etc. before HAL-udev magic came along.
[05:52] <gRunt> Would I find that in synaptics or would I need to configure that from a source?
[05:53] <Brack101> nefrin: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:53] <nefrin> Brack101: right now while I'm in Live CD?
[05:53] <sprinkmeier> KillerOrca, "The following packages have been kept back:" implies you're running options that don't want to update everything to the latest (last time I saw something like that was RHEL, didn't update kernel by default). Sorry, best guess....
[05:53] <Brack101> nefrin: no you boot to your HD then do control alt f1, login and then do that
[05:53] <Brack101> nefrin, oh but then do /etc/init.d/gdm stop first
[05:53] <Brack101> then reboot
[05:54] <chaca_ucke> ce_cari_cinta
[05:54] <nefrin> Brack101 - so do the /etc/init.d/gdm stop now in Live CD, then reboot, do the cntl alt f1 and then the sudo command, correct?
[05:55] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, looks like it's called "autofs" now, so "sudp apt-get install autofs". I think that's the package I used to use but it's been a few years
[05:55] <tokeefe> I think I'm at a loss here
[05:55] <Brack101> nefrin, no you do both on the hdd
[05:55] <Flannel> KillerOrca: do a dist-upgrade
[05:55] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, a better soln for you might be to simply mount the NTFS partition at bootup, mangle /etc/fstab to do this
[05:55] <gRunt> There is also gnome volume manager in synaptics that seems to do a similar thing will try autofs first cheers
[05:55] <gRunt> okay
[05:55] <nefrin> Brack101: rgr, anything else I should do before I reboot and attempt that? I'm gonna drop out of chat to do it
[05:56] <Brack101> nefrin: check PM
[05:56] <tokeefe> having my fglrx driver enabled causes a resume from suspend to hang
[05:56] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, could you elaborate a bit on the mangle /etc/fstab for me I've not used terminal a lot.
[05:56] <Flannel> sprinkmeier, KillerOrca: kernel metapackages (linux-generic) change their dependencies (linux-image-[new-version]-generic instead of [oldversion]).  upgrade only installs newer versions of pacakges you have installed (ups the versions), dist-upgrade will also bring in new depends if needed.  That's why you need to use dist-upgrade to grab new kernels
[05:56] <tokeefe> and not having it enabled will allow the machine to resume, but the touchpad is unresponsive
[05:56] <tokeefe> I guess the touchpad issue was addressed in jaunty
[05:57] <crdlb> tokeefe: that's hardly unprecedented
[05:57] <crdlb> tokeefe: the video driver should have no effect on the touchpad
[05:57] <tokeefe> right
[05:57] <KillerOrca> Flannel, that seems to have done it, thanks
[05:57] <tokeefe> when the video driver is enabled, the machine won't come back from suspend _at all_
[05:57] <tokeefe> just black screen
[05:58] <tokeefe> no Ctrl+Alt+F4
[05:58] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, /etc/fstab is a list of resources (and mountpoints) that you wnat the kernel to know about and, optionally, to mount on boot. /etc/mtab contains the currently mounted resources in a format that you can just about cut-and-paste into fstab. I sufggest you mount the NTFS partition, then check mtab and copy the appropriate line into fstab (doing backups all the way of couorse :-)
[05:58] <tokeefe> have to hard shutdown/reboot
[05:58] <smikec> I have managed to lock my default username out of users-admin. I can access it using su root. Any ideas how to allow my default username back into users-admin to allow changes?
[05:58] <gRunt> thanks sprinkmeier will give it a look now
[05:58] <tokeefe> however, when the video driver is not enabled, the machine will resume.... but this reveals yet another problem, that is, the touchpad doesn't work
[05:59] <tokeefe> So the ATI driver affects the machine from coming back from resume
[05:59] <sprinkmeier> smikec, sounds like the default user has been kicked out of the adm group (membership of this group is used by sudo to allow superuser access).
[06:00] <yoophglup> is there anyway to set one workspace different then the other 3 like no icons or menu bars
[06:00] <sprinkmeier> smikec, "sudo usermod -aG adm USERNAME" adds USERNAME back into the adm group. log out of X and log in again for changes to take effect.
[06:01] <crdlb> tokeefe: ah, I see; the ATI driver suspend problem is pretty much unfixable since the driver is proprietary
[06:01] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, would it be likely to be the last line in my mtab....that being /dev/sda4 /media/disk fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0
[06:01] <tokeefe> yayyyy
[06:01] <sprinkmeier> smikec, (just checked sudoers... the correct group name is "admin", not "adm". not sure what the latter is for)
[06:02] <tokeefe> unfixable!!!!
[06:02] <Flannel> sprinkmeier, smikec: it's not adm, it's admin.  And a better way to do it is `adduser user admin`
[06:02] <KillerOrca> new question then, anyone currently using ushare and know what the new repos are?
[06:02] <smikec> I have rechecked "administer the system" under user privileges and my username is checked under the admin group
[06:03] <L3dPlatedLinux> is there a list of repo's that are not on the sources list  that should be to make ubuntu that much more awesome
[06:03] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, yeah... but it's using FUSE rather then NTFS directly. try something like "/dev/sda4 /media/shared_ntfs     ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46,ro 0  1"
[06:03] <doleyb> L3dPlatedLinux: well there's medibuntu..
[06:03] <gRunt> thanks sprinkmeier ill try it now and reboot....wish me luck :)
[06:04] <horley> can anyone tell me why i the sound on VLC player and MPlayer stopped working?  the rest of the sounds work.. and so does the default movie player (but that player doesnt work well)
[06:04] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, no need to reboot. run "sudo mount -a" to mount all things that are suppsoed to be auto-mounted.
[06:04] <smikec> It is still not working, when I run admin-users in the terminal I get some critical errors "Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated"
[06:04] <gRunt> ok cool well I cant save the fstab I guess I need to change the permissions first :s
[06:04] <sprinkmeier> smikec, does "id" tell you you're in the group now?
[06:05] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, don't change the permissions. use sudo to edit it: "sudo name /etc/fstab"
[06:05] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, oops: "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[06:05] <gRunt> yeah as I hit enter i realised i didnt sudo it
[06:06] <nefrin> Brack101: reconfigure xserver-xorg did not solve my issue, still get the black screen with mouse pointer
[06:06] <Brack101> oh alright
[06:06] <Brack101> no idea
[06:07] <smikec> groups=4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),26(tape),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),106(fuse),108(lpadmin),114(netdev),123(admin),124(sambashare)
[06:07] <nefrin> Brack101: duh, just remebered that I have a backup of my xorg.conf file saved to the hard drive
[06:08] <Brack101> well that's probly not gonna help
[06:08] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, when I try to unmount the volume to test sudo mount -a it tells me the volume isnt mounted even though it is...
[06:08] <Brack101> since reconfig should have fixed your xorg.conf
[06:08] <Brack101> but try it
[06:08] <sprinkmeier> smikec, that's a healthy list of groups.... are you running "sudo admin-users"? (note that most gtk warnings are harmless and might be just noise)
[06:08] <nefrin> Brack101: ok, guess that idea is borked
[06:08] <Brack101> nefrin: no try it out
[06:09] <Brack101> nefrin: you're on the live cd, might as well
[06:09] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, might be a FUSE artefact.... how are you unmounting? "sudo umount /media/mountpoint" usually works for me
[06:09] <nefrin> Brack101: how do I do it from Live CD?
[06:09] <gRunt> I was just doing it via the desktop sprinkmeier will try console
[06:09] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, if you're using the same directory mountpoint in fstab that you've currently got mounted then unmount is likely to get confused. comment out the new line in fstab, then try unmounting again.
[06:10] <Brack101> nefrin: restore your xorg.conf backup
[06:10] <horley> horley:
[06:10] <gRunt> Okies, also when I run that command I get
[06:10] <gRunt> scott@linuxbox:~$ sudo mount -a
[06:10] <gRunt> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/shared_ntfs: No such file or directory
[06:10] <gRunt> scott@linuxbox:~$
[06:10] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, (unmount will see ntfs being used in fstab when the thing is currently FUSE mounted.... or somesuch)
[06:10] <FloodBot1> gRunt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:10] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, need to create /media/shared_ntfs  (unlike magic HAL mounts the directory does not get created for you)
[06:10] <smikec> sprinkmeier, sudo opens users-admin but I can not change anything or unlock root like I was able to do just post install, before I fiddled with the permissions.
[06:11] <sophia> Anyone can help pls..  my title bar disappeared in desktop
[06:11] <kohlrak> smikec: how the hell did you do that?
[06:11] <sophia> even minimize,maximize options in a window
[06:11] <KillerOrca> sophia, what do you mean by title bar?
[06:12] <sprinkmeier> smikec, "sudo users-admin" shouldn't need to be unlocked, it should already be running with root priv. out of ideas for the moment....
[06:12] <kohlrak> sophia: Do also mean the applications, places, and systems?
[06:12] <smikec> kohlrak: unchecked "Administer the system" under all users except root user
[06:12] <gRunt> How do I create /media/shared_ntfs I mean I know I can make a folder in the media directory but I don't see how that works....
[06:12] <kohlrak> smikec: it might be possible to login to root using grub =p
[06:12] <rww> gRunt: sudo mkdir /media/shared_ntfs
[06:12] <rww> =/
[06:13] <QPrime> kohlrak: I think sophia means the window decorations
[06:13] <sophia> killer0rca: In which there will the all menu options like shutdown...firefox...etc
[06:13] <gRunt> well that makes sense rww I just dont see how that then links to my parition but ill give it a go
[06:13] <smikec> thanks for your help sprinkmeier
[06:13] <KillerOrca> sophia, so the top panel?
[06:13] <rww> gRunt: it doesn't unless you modify fstab to make it (or use mount to do it)
[06:13] <sophia> killer0rca: ya
[06:13] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, /etc/fstab provides the link
[06:13] <smikec> kohlrak: I can login to root only via terminal
[06:14] <sophia> killer0rca: how to get it back?
[06:14] <KillerOrca> sophia, well what was the last thing you did before it went away?
[06:14] <gRunt> Yep it just worked I didnt have the partition mounted but already had the fstab uncommented just went back to my desktop and its there thanks! Anyway to hide the drive on the desktop though I'm not interested in the drive itself only in the folders I am linking instead.
[06:14] <sophia> killer0rca: typed compiz in terminal
[06:15] <QPrime> sophia: using compiz?
[06:15] <QPrime> yup that will do it.  ;)
[06:15] <kohlrak> smikec, so you mean to tell me that when you turn it off you cannot get into root when you turn it back on, that the debug menu or whatever it's called (i foget off hand) does not show up or does not work?
[06:15] <onats1> how do i update my apt-sources via comamnd line?
[06:15] <sprinkmeier> smikec, anything in /var/log/messages? (wild thought: something like /etc/sudoers file permissions got whacked and the system is refusing to use it, hence admin group membership isn't working)
[06:15] <gRunt> !permissions
[06:16] <kohlrak> sophia: type: sudo killall compiz
[06:16] <sophia> how to get it back now?
[06:16] <KillerOrca> sophia, if your card isn't up to snuff compiz won't function right, so I would try disabling it, call up a terminal with alt-f2, I beleive
[06:16] <kohlrak> sophia: it might not work entirely, but the appearances manager's last tab could also fix it
[06:16] <crdlb> sophia: what video card do you have?
[06:17] <smikec> kohlrak: Havent tried any debug menu, just the graphical logon doesnt work
[06:17] <sophia> killer0rca: It says no process to kill
[06:17] <crdlb> kohlrak: there is _no_ reason to use sudo to kill compiz
[06:17] <kohlrak> smikec: ok... So, if you can login with a terminal, have you tried visudo?
[06:18] <crdlb> kohlrak: secondly, compiz is a shell script; compiz.real is the real binary
[06:18] <kohlrak> crdlb: really? i never bothered to check what user starts it
[06:18] <onats1> my computer at home just restarted.. i can't connect using tightvnc right now.. how do i force login onto the desktop, given i have terminal access only?
[06:18] <KillerOrca> sophia, hmm, have you just tried rebooting?
[06:18] <sophia> killer0rca: tried but no use
[06:19] <kohlrak> onats1: i really don't think you can... If you can, it's proably really hacky and dangerous. XD
[06:19] <crdlb> sophia: go to system > preferences > appearance > visual effects
[06:19] <crdlb> sophia: set it to NOne
[06:20] <ScottG489> How can I forward sound to another computer?
[06:21] <SunnyDP> ScottG489: with cable or software /
[06:21] <smikec> kohlrak: no I haven't tried visudo, im checking the messages log now
[06:21] <sophia> crdlb: No preference option here
[06:21] <ScottG489> SunnyDP: What do you mean?
[06:21] <gRunt> Hey sprinkmeier just had to log in and out as I was testing something seems now when I try and access /media/shared_ntfs it says I can't view the contents of the file as I don't have permission, can I simply chmod -r the folder?
[06:21] <KillerOrca> sophia, have you also tried clicking on the desktop to add a panel in manually?
[06:21] <onats1> kholrak, so that means i cant vnc to home once its restarted?:(
[06:22] <crdlb> sophia: do you see System?
[06:22] <kohlrak> smikec: basically, visudo (if that's the command, i can't remember) opens the file that has lists the permissions for "sudo access"
[06:22] <SunnyDP> ScottG489: wforward sound to 2nd PC with cable or software ?
[06:22] <sophia> crdlb: System option is there when i right click on desktop
[06:23] <smikec> sprinkmeir: can't seem to find anything that looks fishy in the log
[06:23] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, you have to mess with the mount options, they overrise the directory permissions. the "gid=46" was supposed to set the group to something you belong to, check that it does
[06:23] <kohlrak> onats1: not really... If you have your computer auto login to a user account you can simply login using a terminal and start the vnc daemon, but i don't think you can force login from terminal
[06:23] <crdlb> sophia: are you using gnome?
[06:23] <sophia> crdlb: yes
[06:23] <ScottG489> SunnyDP: What do you mean by cable?
[06:23] <crdlb> sophia: then there shouldn't be a 'system' in the desktop right click menu
[06:23] <onats1> kohlrak, well i can ssh to my PC now..
[06:24] <sprinkmeier> smikec, out of ideas again then....
[06:24] <onats1> is that any help?
[06:24] <crdlb> sophia: there should, however, be a 'change desktop background' item, which we can use. so if you see that, click on it
[06:24] <gRunt> can I change the gid to something like 100 which is users sprinkmeier ?
[06:24] <kohlrak> onats1: only if a user is already logged in graphically
[06:24] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, yes.
[06:25] <SunnyDP> ScottG489: RCA cables, old school style\
[06:25] <KillerOrca> onats, are you using Putty to ssh in?\
[06:25] <onats> KillerOrca, yes
[06:25] <kohlrak> onats: you COULD try startx, but then there's alot more you'd have to do, and i'm not sure you can do it all from the terminal
[06:25] <onats> kohlrak, i'm sure at home on screen, its already displaying the login screen
[06:25] <smikec> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:25] <sprinkmeier> ScottG489, IIRC X has the ability to forward sound, but everyone just bypasses it to get to /dev/alsa-oss-pulse-whatever_were_using_this_week. streaming audio?
[06:26] <ScottG489> SunnyDP: Still dont know what RCA cables are :/
[06:26] <sophia> crdlb: i got top menu by typing xfce4-panel, But in terminal i m not getting maximize and min option
[06:26] <kohlrak> onats: that's true... basically... you gotta get past the login screen first then the rest is easy =p
[06:26] <KillerOrca> onats, so you can ssh in type in your login name and password and login?
[06:26] <crdlb> sophia: xfce4 is not gnome
[06:26] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, that works but that folder is empty, before when I was manually mounting it it had all my music in it......I deleted the link to it on my desktop but that is all, does the parition normally get wiped or is that because the link was established after I copied all the files over to it?
[06:26] <onats> KillerOrca, yes
[06:26] <kohlrak> smikec: is that how it was when you opened it up?
[06:26] <nefrin> Brack101: still didn't work, I'm up on a laptop now, but the computer with the problem still has the problem
[06:26] <KillerOrca> onats, then you get your prompt at the terminal?
[06:26] <crdlb> sophia: what video card do you have?
[06:26] <ScottG489> sprinkmeier: Well im using NX rootless to send single windows to my laptop from my desktop. I tried enableing multimedia support but the sound still plays on my desktop
[06:26] <smikec> kohlrak: yes
[06:26] <onats> KillerOrca, yes
[06:27] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, did you run "sudo mount -a"? what does "mount" and "df" say?
[06:27] <Brack101> nefrin well at least we know it's not x11 :)
[06:27] <nefrin> Brack101: any other ideas?
[06:27] <SunnyDP> ScottG489: red, black, yellow ?
[06:27] <kohlrak> smikec: that's weird... that should mean sudo should work for ALL users
[06:27] <glick> hey, does anyone know of any motion detection software?
[06:27] <sprinkmeier> ScottG489, BT headphones :-)
[06:27] <Brack101> nefrin: check syslog, see what's giving you errors at boot time
[06:27] <glick> i want my webcam to take a picture if it detects motion and send it to an email addy
[06:28] <onats> glick, are you using webcam?
[06:28] <sophia> crdlb: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[06:28] <glick> yes onats
[06:28] <Brack101> nefrin: control alt f1, login sudo nano /var/log/syslog
[06:28] <KillerOrca> onats, this might help http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/6
[06:28] <doleyb> glick: the package is called motion
[06:28] <kohlrak> smikec: i'm gonna check something quick
[06:28] <onats> glick, try zoneminder. i haven't completey set it up though
[06:28] <onats> thanks KillerOrca
[06:28] <smikec> kohlrak: sudo is working for users-admin, except a lot is grayed out versus using su root to gain access to it
[06:28] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, http://pastebin.com/d2237db0b thats the result of mount and df
[06:29] <crdlb> sophia: open a terminal and run 'gtk-window-decorator --replace &'
[06:29] <nefrin> Brack101: 5333 lines, am I looking for anything in particular?
[06:29] <glick> hmm thanks doleyb and onats
[06:29] <SandGorgon> anybody know how to generate kernel dumps with kdump?
[06:29] <ScottG489> SunnyDP: Oh, no over the net
[06:29] <kohlrak> smikec: that's really odd... That means the permissions of the sudoers themselves is what's broken
[06:29] <ScottG489> sprinkmeier: whats that?
[06:29] <SunnyDP> ScottG489:  ahh ok, not too sure
[06:30] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, line 16, still seems to be mounted using FUSE rather than the line out of fstab.
[06:30] <gRunt> :s
[06:30] <Brack101> nefrin: yeah most recent boot time, if you forgot, make a note of it when you reboot
[06:30] <kohlrak> ah wait
[06:30] <sprinkmeier> Scott_Dude25, blue-tooth headphones
[06:30] <smikec> kolrak: it was a fresh install tonight, maybe reinstalling is the easier fix
[06:30] <Brack101> nefrin: particularly around the time your problem happens
[06:30] <kohlrak> smikec: i misread your file.
[06:30] <horley> does anyone know how to get the wireless card to start up on boot?  i would also need to keep the same ip address somehow (from my router)
[06:30] <kohlrak> smikec: you know how to use vim, right?
[06:31] <smikec> no
[06:31] <glick> those tools all look very complex, isnt there anything simpler
[06:31] <Brack101> going to bed
[06:31] <Brack101> night
[06:31] <glick> for a simple single webcam?
[06:31] <centHOGG> hi, i have a question about a particular modprobe at startup... do I put that in init.d? thx in advance
[06:31] <onats> KillerOrca, this still requires me to administer via GUI, which i dont have access to right now
[06:31] <kohlrak> smikec: it's a sort of gedit that runs in the terminal
[06:31] <smikec> ok
[06:31] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, this is the dump of my /etc/fstab to make sure I put it all in correctly http://pastebin.com/d2ebe32e9
[06:31] <sprinkmeier> horley, the second is easy... assign a static IP address, or tell your router to assign a static DHCP lease.
[06:32] <KillerOrca> onats, this should allow you to get in via GUI after you follow it, all you have to figure out how to do GUI-less is install x11vnc
[06:32] <kohlrak> smikec: hit i, then hit the down arrow until you're on a blank line, if that doesn't work (last line has text), move to the end of that line and hit enter
[06:32] <chronos> Has anyone been having stability issues lately? I updated my Intrepid and when I did, programs have started randomly crashing, disappearing, etc.  What gives?
[06:32] <kohlrak> smikec: then enter the following line: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:32] <nefrin> Brack101: dhcdbd message handler not found under/&?
[06:33] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, OK... so "sudo umount /dedia/shared_ntfs" verify that it's gone, then "sudo mount -a" and it should be back, but this time without the FUSE stuff (OK, I'm running 8.04 and I don't have the FUSE stuff on my automatically-mounted NTFS partition. I guess it's possible that 8.10 is different....)
[06:33] <smikec> kohlrak: still in visudo
[06:33] <KillerOrca> also how to add a script to auto-startup
[06:33] <doleyb> chronos: no i am fine
[06:33] <kohlrak> smikec: ok, now hit escape, then !wq then hit enter
[06:33] <kohlrak> smikec: did visudo quit or did it give you an error message?
[06:33] <noren> chronos: did u updated to jaunty lately
[06:33] <BigMoopies> Is there any real reason for me to keep powernowd , for it's CPU scaling on my desktop?  It slowed me down by tons.
[06:34] <chronos> noren: No, i just updated packages in Intrepid.
[06:34] <doleyb> BigMoopies: I have also noticed a counterproductive result from powernowd (and also guidance-power-manager)
[06:34] <chronos> Like right then, my audio player just died. No error message or anything. Just dropped away
[06:34] <noren> chronos: did u had the prerealease option checked
[06:34] <sprinkmeier> smikec, you can run "sudo env EDITOR=nano visudo" to use nano instead of vi when editing sudoers. friendlier...
[06:34] <BigMoopies> doleyb, A counter who ?
[06:35] <horley> sorry irc keeps resetting me.. does anyone know how to get the wireless card to start up on boot?  i would also need to keep the same ip address somehow (from my router)
[06:35] <doleyb> BigMoopies: counter-productive.  Meaning that using it was worse than not using it.
[06:35] <chronos> Sure didn't noren I know better than alphas and betas
[06:36] <BigMoopies> doleyb, That's what I thought myself.  I wish I had known what was causing my system to run like WindowsXP after 5 months of it being installed before I looked up "powernowd"
[06:36] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, that is what I did last time, just to make sure I unmounted then ran a mount and df command I think it looks ok did you just want to verify line 16 still mentions fuse thats all.
[06:36] <gRunt> http://pastebin.com/d5afd6c98
[06:36] <sprinkmeier> horley, the second is easy... assign a static IP address, or tell your router to assign a static DHCP lease. the first part probably requires mangling /etc/network/interfaces
[06:36] <BigMoopies> doleyb, But besides that, There is no real reason for me to keep it?  No over heating? blah blah ?
[06:36] <doleyb> BigMoopies: well I'm on a laptop so its kinda different.  And the only time it makes problem is flash movies on web.
[06:37] <doleyb> BigMoopies: you can run lmsensors and check if heating seems to be a problem, but probably it won't be
[06:37] <smikec> kohlraek: ran vim, typed i for insert, entered line stated, esc, !wq, enter, output=shell returned 127
[06:37] <kohlrak> smikec: any accompanying text or just 127?
[06:37] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, NTFS seems to be gone. try the "sudo mount -a" now to see it it comes back (and what it looks like)
[06:38] <BigMoopies> doleyb, I installed lm-sensor and all, however is there anything for a graphic to use it?  Maybe gkrealm ?
[06:38] <gRunt> sprinkmeier,  yeah just tried it comes back BUT i still don't have permission to view it, which is stupid group 100 is users and I ticked both my account and root to be members just to be safe...
[06:38] <chronos> Is there a log file I can check to see why programs just die?
[06:38] <horley> sprinkmeier: for some reason my /etc/network/interfaces is pretty small compared to examples ive seen on the web, but i think you are right..  i will have to look into the static DHCP lease but it makes sense..
[06:38] <BigMoopies> graphic = GUI
[06:38] <doleyb> BigMoopies: yes there are many graphical things to display it, including kgrellem
[06:38] <Ndshacker> is 70 Gb sufficient for the root of Ubuntu
[06:38] <doleyb> BigMoopies: or gkrellem or whatever it's called
[06:38] <gRunt> that said sprinkmeier its been mounted in fuse again..
[06:38] <Ndshacker> i have 160 for downloads
[06:39] <crdlb> Ndshacker: that's bigger than my HDD
[06:39] <doleyb> Ndshacker: More than enough, 10 gig would be enough basically
[06:39] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, did you log out and in again? without that the changed group membership will not take effect.
[06:39] <Ndshacker> mmk
[06:39] <BigMoopies> doleyb, OK.  This would be as good as using "SpeedFan" in Windows ?
[06:39] <doleyb> Ndshacker: even 1 gig can be enough
[06:39] <crdlb> Ndshacker: assuming you mean GB not Gb
[06:39] <nefrin> Brack101: not seeing anything like errors or warnings except the dhcdbd thing
[06:39] <halpmai> Hey, I'm trying to install grub from the ubuntu live cd and when I type "grub> find /boot/grub/stage1" I get this error "Error 15: File not found"
[06:39] <gRunt> ahh no I didnt brb
[06:39] <Ndshacker> Er yeah
[06:39] <Ndshacker> The bigger one :)
[06:39] <Ndshacker> even 70 gigbits would be enough I think
[06:39] <nefrin> halpmai: trying doing just find /grub/stage1
[06:40] <Ndshacker> about 9.5 Gigabytes :p
[06:40] <smikec> kohlrak: "shell returned 127" thats it
[06:40] <sprinkmeier> horley, ....interfaces is usually tiny, basically "do everything automagically (via DHCP), get passwords from the keyring if/when needed". Automatically starting wireless usually requires a WEP/WPA key, assigning static IP addresses means more lines....
[06:40] <kohlrak> smikec: very unusual error... looking it up
[06:40]  * chronos kicks his computer as his dice game dies
[06:40] <halpmai> nefrin, Same error.
[06:41] <BigMoopies> doleyb, I actually don't see heat/fans on it
[06:41] <BigMoopies> (gkrellm)
[06:41] <horley> sprinkmeier: thanks for the help!  i think i can figure it out..
[06:41] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, it didnt even mount upon logging in this time
[06:41] <kohlrak> smikec: are you still in visudo or did it leave?
[06:41] <sLaeYa> hi I have just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 8.10 - which worked seemlessly and then ISPconfig - I am now having a problem with bind9 failing on boot and am unsure how to fix this problem, here is a snippet of my syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/132863/
[06:41] <smikec> kohlrak: that line %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:41] <smikec>  is in visudo
[06:42] <nefrin> halpmai: I had that error awhile ago, meant that my grub files had be reconfigured and moved too far down the HDD to be read by the bios and I needed to reinstall and setup proper partitions. Beyond doing that, I'm at a loss
[06:42] <kohlrak> smikec: is that line saved though? so that you see it again if you exited and reentered visudo?
[06:42] <gRunt> That said sprinkmeier sudo mount -a worked and permissions are fine, it just didn't auto mount for some reason, or will it only mount after a reboot and not a login/out
[06:42] <smikec> kohlrak: it has always been in visudo
[06:43] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, correct. bootup runs "mount -a" which examines fstab. reboot to confirm, but it should work now.
[06:43] <kohlrak> smikec: then just exit visudo and try to do your thing and tell me if you sitll have problems
[06:44] <gRunt> Thanks, lastly how do I then make a link (or yes being the windows newb I still am) a shortcut to a folder in that file, is it as simple as making a launcher that points to /media/shared_ntfs/foldername?
[06:44] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, was able to confirm myself thanks for all the help!
[06:45] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, create a soft-link and drag it onto the toolbar. just checked it, works.
[06:45] <smikec> kohlrak: still says no access from the gui
[06:45] <kohlrak> smikec: i'm curious... you can use su root from a GUI terminal app, right?
[06:45] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, alternatively... make it one of the "places" nautilus uses, that way it pops up in open/close/save dialogues
[06:45] <fool_> does anyone use cone the email client ?
[06:46] <nefrin> Well, my helper seems to have left, can anyone else help? Getting a black screen after the ubuntu splash with a mouse pointer, no loading up of GNOME
[06:46] <smikec> kohlrak: no access from gui, partial access from gui terminal using sudo, full access using gui terminal using su root
[06:46] <kohlrak> nefrin: sounds like compiz =p Using an ATI? If so, probably compiz
[06:46] <fool_> nefrin: maybe drop to single user and see what's wrong
[06:46] <gRunt> dont have nautilus but it has popped up a lot in tutorials etc ive seen on the net so will get it now and check it out, thanks again sprinkmeier
[06:46] <fool_> does anyone in here use cone the email client ?
[06:47] <nefrin> kohlrak: I have NVIDIA, not using compiz
[06:47] <prince_jammys> smikec: you're unable to use sudo at all?
[06:47] <nefrin> fool_ - drop to single user?
[06:47] <gRunt> Bah still seems I dont have write permissions to the folder....
[06:47] <kohlrak> smikec: you just may be able to run the same manager that you messed with all the permissions after su root, since a GUI program run after that should have the same permissions as root
[06:48] <fool_> nefrin: right after reboot , when it says press escape to get to grub menu, press escape, choose recovery option
[06:48] <ravn1> hi guys, anyone could hint me with DRM stuff? I had OpenGL working fine under GNOME until I changed the screen settings so I could also use my VGA connector with a beamer. After this I can not use DRI any more. I have been looking around at the web and found that drm does not seem to load any more on my laptop (dmesg | grep drm gives nothing) where should I start?
[06:48] <kohlrak> smikec: what program exactly did you use anyway?
[06:48] <fool_> ravn1: drm is not dri
[06:48] <nefrin> fool_ : have done the recovery option, and tried all the options to fix xserver and packages, still getting the same result
[06:48] <smikec> kohlrak: I have tried, but can't seem to get it back, all privileges are check in users-admin
[06:49] <ravn1> fool_: ok, I was reading this page http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting where these things seem to go hand in hand
[06:49] <fool_> nefrin: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver ?
[06:49] <kohlrak> smikec: using the same program that you used to mess it up?
[06:49] <fool_> ravn1: try dmesg |grep dri
[06:49] <smikec> kohlrak: yes only have I used users-admin aka "users and groups" in the gui
[06:49] <nefrin> fool_ : have done that too, as well as copied over my xorg.cong_backup file to the orginal xorg.conf, again no soap
[06:49] <yanz> I need alot of help :(
[06:50] <yanz> Something went wrong ):
[06:50] <fool_> nefrin: paste the syslog somewhere please
[06:50] <gRunt> !permissions
[06:50] <nefrin> fool_ : wait one, gonna have to boot up that computer on live CD
[06:50] <fool_> would somebody using hardy please install cone with aptitude ?
[06:50] <smikec> kohlrak: could this be a problem (users-admin:14823): CRITICAL **: Unable to lookup session information for process '14823'
[06:51] <sophia> crdlb: I cannot open setting manager-> window Manger Tweaks.. It shows error message.
[06:51] <yanz> is anyone really exp with Ubuntu?
[06:51] <kohlrak> smikec: if you run the program as root and the options don't work, and if your sudoers file doesn't work (visudo), then you might have what i call a "permissions tree problem"
[06:51] <ravn1> fool_: this gives nothing
[06:51] <fool_> nefrin: uhm that's that gonna help you figure out whats wrong
[06:51] <prince_jammys> smikec: how are you running users-admin?
[06:51] <crdlb> sophia: that's simply because you're not using xfwm4 anymore
[06:51] <fool_> !ask | yanz
[06:52] <kohlrak> smikec: basically, it's like folder permissions. You have permissions to a folder, but not allthe sub folders, then you gotta go around and find out how the hell to give yourself permissions to all the sub folders...
[06:52] <magnetron> yanz→ there are 1300 persons here, don't expect anyone to answer to vague questions directed to no one in particular
[06:52] <fool_> ravn1: copy content of /var/log/syslog and paste somewhere
[06:52] <nefrin> fool_ : I know, but that computer was sitting at a black screen, I'm booting it up into live CD so I can paste the syslog, otherwise I won't be able to paste it anywhere
[06:52] <gRunt> Can anyone give me the console command for full read and write access to a folder. I remember its something like chmod -r 666 /folderpath isnt it?
[06:52] <yanz> Eh, Ok.. Well I updated my Ubuntu Last night with the update manager, now firefox won't work, mercury won't work, aMsn won't work, everything is laggy, theres alot of errors..
[06:52] <sophia> crdlb: now how can i resolve my problem? any idea?
[06:52] <crdlb> sophia: if you want to stop using compiz, install the fusion-icon package, then run it; you'll then have a menu in your tray to switch between them
[06:52] <kohlrak> smikec: you said it's a fresh install, so if not too much time went into getting it to this point, perhaps starting over again would be the easier solution..
[06:53] <smikec> prince_jammys: under the gui "users and group" permission denied", through terminal sudo users-admin, all possible changes are grayed out, su root users-admin full access
[06:53] <yanz> All the other browsers I download and msn clients also don't work
[06:53] <yanz> :S
[06:53] <fool_> nefrin: oh, well and where's the log ?
[06:53] <prince_jammys> smikec: gksudo users-admin
[06:53] <smikec> kohlrak: im about to give up for the night
[06:53] <fool_> does anyone in here run hardy ?
[06:53] <sophia> crdlb: from synaptic manager?
[06:53] <crdlb> sophia: sure, any package manager works
[06:54] <yanz> ...
[06:54] <smikec> prince_jammys: same result as using the terminal
[06:55] <gRunt> Can anyone give me the console command for full read and write access to a folder. I remember its something like chmod -r 666 /folderpath isnt it?
[06:55] <prince_jammys> smikec: this is the only app that gives you a problem with sudo? are you able to sudo normally otherwise?
[06:55] <kohlrak> smikec: it's as if all your users left their user groups...
[06:55] <yanz> Gess. Good help. I'm out
[06:56] <Kartagis> hellp
[06:56] <Kartagis> when I try playing a sound, all I hear is crackles from speakers. wanna help me fix it?
[06:56] <smikec> prince_jammys: havent tried, any suggestions
[06:56] <prince_jammys> smikec: sudo ls
[06:56] <prince_jammys> anything
[06:56] <fool_> well nvm
[06:56] <fool_> can anyone just please install cone and tell me whether libfam0 is installed with it ?
[06:57] <nefrin> fool_ : can't get my syslog up while I'm in LiveCD, and I can paste it when I bring it up on the command prompt
[06:57] <kohlrak> fool_  it should be if necessary.. if not, just install it XD
[06:57] <sophia> crdlb: still wont work
[06:57] <fool_> kohlrak: problem is, i get it installed on one machine and not on another
[06:57] <crdlb> sophia: what didn't? did you launch fusion-icon?
[06:57] <kohlrak> fool_ using the package system?
[06:58] <fool_> kohlrak: so if you have time please do aptitude install cone and tell me what happen
[06:58] <ravn1> fool_: http://pastebin.com/m48ed14d2
[06:58] <fool_> kohlrak: yes
[06:58] <chilli0> hello all how can i make avast do a virus scan over a network from ubuntu to windblows?
[06:58] <kohlrak> fool_: i'm actually on windows right now to type a report... Taking a brake from it in here. XD
[06:58] <smikec> prince_jammys: Desktop, Documents, Pictures...
[06:58] <andriijas> i cloned the hardrive on my laptop with dd and put the clone image on a external disk, and restored it on another laptop which ive now booted up, how do i refresh what modules and drivers ubuntu should load on boot because it doesnt find the network interface?
[06:59] <sophia> crdlb: i typed fusion-icon in terminal after installing.
[06:59] <fool_> kohlrak: libfam0 is installed in a hardy machine, which is what it should be, and not installed on a hardy and gutsy machine, and it's driving me nuts
[06:59] <smikec> kohlrak: is it normal for each user to have his/her own group
[06:59] <kohlrak> fool_ have you checked for any bug reports on the package? Very unusual for a package to not install necessary files.
[06:59] <crdlb> sophia: do you see the icon the tray? right click on it and select window manager > xfwm4
[06:59] <sophia> crdlb: i gives" KeyError: 'decoration'"
[07:00] <kohlrak> smikec: not sure... been a while since i checked, though it doesn't sound entirely right...
[07:00] <prince_jammys> smikec: the notable thing about the output of your `id' command is that there's no `user' group.
[07:00] <Kartagis> when I try playing a sound, all I hear is crackles from speakers. wanna help me fix it?
[07:00] <crdlb> sophia: argh, sudo apt-get install compiz
[07:00] <kohlrak> smikec: it wouldn't make sense to have user groups if every user was his own group, would it? XD
[07:00] <crdlb> sophia: when that's done, run fusion-icon again
[07:01] <smikec> kohlrak: exactly, but somehow they were generated
[07:01] <fool_> ravn1: damn that's a lot of io error
[07:01] <sophia> crdlb: ok
[07:02] <kohlrak> smikec: hm...... might've happened when you took away their root privileges...
[07:02] <kohlrak> smikec: i can't imagin it just making a "removed from root privileges" group XD
[07:02] <fool_> ravn1: is that the end of it ?
[07:02] <ravn1> fool_: yes
[07:03] <ravn1> I just tried to do modprobe drm wich loaded w.o. errors...
[07:03] <kohlrak> fool_ Either way though, install the libfam0 package and if it works file a bug report
[07:03] <prince_jammys> smikec: it's normal for all human users to have their own group
[07:03] <smikec> kohlrak: well im going to try and logout and login again
[07:03] <fool_> kohlrak: problem is i don't know whether i should installed it or not
[07:04] <kohlrak> smikec: go further and try rebooting
[07:04] <smikec> if that doesnt work then im calling it quits for the night
[07:04] <ravn1> fool_:  I will try to reboot the x-server now and see what happens
[07:04] <fool_> that's why i'm asking someone else to install it to see what happen
[07:04] <smikec> thanks for everyones help
[07:04] <prince_jammys> smikec: do you get output from this: getent group|grep user
[07:04] <kohlrak> fool_ install and if it works, keep it, if it doesn't, remove it again XD
[07:04] <Peddy> What package is the file /dev/dsp found in? I seem to be missing it.
[07:05] <Reidy> I need to upgrade my graphics driver, anyone know how I go about doing this?
[07:05] <fool_> kohlrak: that's the wrong way to go
[07:05] <fool_> :/
[07:05] <fool_> though it sounds very pratical
[07:05] <fool_> lol
[07:05] <kohlrak> fool_ probably lots more that you don't need if that's what you're worried about... that's why they gave us apt-get autoremove
[07:06] <fool_> kohlrak: well it does leave a daemon sitting in the box so that what's spook me to begin with
[07:07] <kohlrak> fool_ weird... The daemon might not be open to the public though, as in it might only be on a loopback connection...
[07:07] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, I just rebooted and all works fine for mounting, though I don't seem to have write permissions is there a quick and easy fix for that?
[07:07] <kohlrak> fool_ though if you're on a private network, just don't open the port on your firewall and it shouldn't cause any problems. Since it's a daemon it shouldn't take any cycles until something connects to it
[07:09] <kohlrak> fool_ there's also the possibility that the computers are using differerent update servers, which can happen and that'll cause different versions with different requirements
[07:09] <gRunt> Can anyone help me with making a mounted ntfs folder have write access please?
[07:09] <kohlrak> fool_: however, to have a daemon library is a really unusual difference in requirements o.O
[07:09] <fool_> kohlrak: checked that, all same
[07:10] <kohlrak> well, i'm not surprised with the gutsy
[07:10] <kohlrak> but both hardies are the same version of hardy?
[07:10] <sophia> crdlb: Thanks a lot ..it worked as expected... Thank you...
[07:11] <fool_> kohlrak: yes
[07:11] <gRunt> Can anyone help me with making a mounted ntfs folder have write access please?
[07:11] <kohlrak> fool_ well does the program work without the creepy daemon lib?
[07:12] <fool_> kohlrak: i went ahead and try insatll libfam0, and guess what, there was a conflict with gamin
[07:12] <fool_>  Gamin has been designed as a drop-in replacement for FAM with security and
[07:12] <fool_>  maintainability in mind and can use Linux's advanced inotify service when available.
[07:12] <Kartagis> !ntfs | grub_booter
[07:12] <ekimus_> ls
[07:12] <ekimus_> whoops
[07:12] <Kartagis> !ntfs | gRunt
[07:12] <Kartagis> !ntfs-3g | gRunt
[07:13] <gRunt> !NTFS-3g
[07:13] <kohlrak> fool_ then i suggest gamin instead if it is more secure and maintainable and the program works XD
[07:13] <kohlrak> fool_ i would also suggest switching the other computer to use gamin as well if it works XD
[07:14] <smikec> kohlrak: I su into users-admin started adding my username under anything "admin" looking and vice versa with my personal group, rebooted
[07:14] <fool_> kohlrak: shoot but the required package is libfam0 in the description
[07:14] <kohlrak> smikec: improvement?
[07:14] <smikec>  kohlrak: improvement = yes
[07:14] <smikec> now my username can change root permissions once I unlock
[07:15] <smikec> so its just tinkering from here on out
[07:15] <kohlrak> fool_ well, if gamin's a dropin that works then it shouldn't matter. What matters is that it works. If both work, worry about security... if this thing makes a daemon, it's not number1 on my list of secure programs.
[07:15] <fool_> kohlrak: i'm gonna file a bug report
[07:15] <kohlrak> smikec: awesome... not sure what worked, but the "unlock" button is a requirement for all as far as i know =p
[07:15] <smikec> thanks for everyones help, goodnight
[07:15] <kohlrak> smikec: night
[07:16] <smikec> at least everyting in the gui works now
[07:16] <kohlrak> fool_ good idea...
[07:16] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, mount options ro, read-only. I usually do that 'cos it's safer that way
[07:16] <fool_> kohlrak: haha well it works as far as i can see, but that's still unsure, but they should have drop the requirement for libfam
[07:16] <dsdeiz> hi, inorder to get the text based ubuntu do i download the alternate cd?
[07:17] <dsdeiz> the one with no gui
[07:17] <kohlrak> fool_ well, they have to use either libfam or the more secure one, and if they don't get rid of libfam, they really can't make the dropin the primary requirement..
[07:18] <kohlrak> fool_ some kind of weird programmer ethics thing or something. The least they could do, though, is mention the dropin replacement
[07:18] <vcvg> join #irssi
[07:18] <fool_> kohlrak: no kidding, or do libfam | gamin  in the requirements spec
[07:18] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, occassionaly im on linux though and have dled a file that I want to be able to open in my windows machine and its easier to just copy it there than stuff around with an external, thats all
[07:19] <kohlrak> fool_ you can do that? Though, they probably did, otherwise purging libfam for gamin would have thrown an error. Naturally the one will install before the other on most machines
[07:19] <crdlb> fool_: what package is this?
[07:19] <kohlrak> fool_ that means there's likely another program that uses libfam that doesn't have the option set right forthe dropin replacement...
[07:20] <fool_> kohlrak: yes you can do that, and no they didn't
[07:20] <fool_> crdlb: cone
[07:20] <fool_> kohlrak: yes i tried to purge gamin and lighttpd cry out in horror
[07:21] <kohlrak> fool_ well, if gamin is the more secure package then you don't want to purge that one XD
[07:22] <kohlrak> fool_: i gotta get going. Chances are some one will answer that bug report before i have a viable solution other than already suggested.
[07:22] <fool_> kohlrak: the lighttpd does show a gamin | libfam dependencies
[07:22] <fool_> kohlrak: problem is, i will use it and it might crash one day
[07:22] <fool_> or it might live one happily ever after
[07:22] <fool_> lol
[07:22] <fool_> kohlrak: yes, thanks, have fun getting back to work
[07:22] <kohlrak> fool_ well, if it's "more maintainable" then it'll probably end up becomming the primary requirement as libfam becomes outdated and not maintained
[07:22] <ravn1> fool_: hi again, it's not working =( On http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting they say I should have a "Modules" section in my xorg.conf, but if I add that the xserver says there is no known section named that ...
[07:23] <kohlrak> fool_: see ya
[07:23] <digger3> Hi, how do I encrypt my full harddrive (instead of seperate volumes) I want the tool to autoselect an environment based on the password that I enter so that it is undetectable that I have another environment installed (accessible with the other password). Does this exist?
[07:23] <doleyb> digger3: sounds cool though
[07:24] <suigeneris> hello
[07:24] <fool_> ravn1: xorg 7.3 did away with many parts of the config, gotta check which video card ou got and override in the config right for it to work
[07:25] <suigeneris> my sound is gone and all I hear is crackles from speakers. anybody wanna help me fix it?
[07:26] <fool_> suigeneris: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting is good start
[07:26] <sanku> hi am trying to connect to my desktop from my laptop.. i can ssh from the desktop to laptop, but when i try to do the reverse i.e (laptop->desktop) i get "port22:connection refused" how can i solve the problem?
[07:27] <sanku> mine is a home router, i don't think there is firewall in it..
[07:27] <fool_> sanku: check ufw firewall
[07:27] <fool_> of desktop
[07:28] <suigeneris> fool_: find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd gives me a list, aplay -l gives me my sound card, lspci -v gives me my sound card
[07:28] <suigeneris> fool_: it used to work before
[07:28] <sanku> fool_: its some problem with laptop, i had problem from colege too.. both having gnewsense(ubuntu 8.04)..
[07:29] <sanku> btw whats the recommended way to get connected and share files in lan connected ubuntu systems?
[07:29] <fool_> sanku: what does ssh username@desktopIP show you ?
[07:30] <sanku> fool_: ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[07:30] <fool_> suigeneris: alsamixer, check the volumes
[07:30] <nate[oz]> how can I completely remove mysql-server-5.0 and start again? I believe it's a broken install, and the service won't start... every time I remove it and reinstall it does the exact same thing
[07:30] <suigeneris> fool_: they are up
[07:30] <nate[oz]> I've removed every single package that has anything to do with mysql and it still does i
[07:30] <fool_> sanku: you absolutely sure it's 1.3 ?
[07:30] <nate[oz]> it*
[07:31] <suigeneris> nate[oz]: sudo apt-get --purge remove mysql-server-5.0
[07:31] <sanku> fool_: yeah saw ifconfig at desktop, and sure that there is something wrong with the laptop ssh network, i had the same problem with well setup college sytems..
[07:31] <fool_> suigeneris: well sometimes one of the tabs has to be down, like on my laptop, otherwise there are a lot of sizzling noise
[07:31] <sanku> s/ssh network/ssh setup/
[07:32] <fool_> sanku: on desktop, do nestat -ntl
[07:32] <Reidy> I need to upgrade my graphics driver, anyone know how I go about doing this?
[07:32] <suigeneris> fool_: like i said, it used to work with this setup
[07:33] <kandinski> hey, how to create a virtual serial port for bluetooth under 8.10?
[07:33] <zeltak> hi guys..i know its a bit off topic but does anyone have any experience using 1.5TB on ubuntu?
[07:33] <fool_> suigeneris: something must have happen, can't help you out here
[07:34] <sanku_desktop> Active Internet connections (only servers)
[07:34] <sanku_desktop> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State
[07:34] <sanku_desktop> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:631           <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN
[07:34] <nate[oz]> suigeneris, http://paste.ubuntu.com/132881/
[07:34] <sanku> fool_: ^^
[07:34] <nate[oz]> still no luck I'm afraid
[07:34] <kandinski> apparently the only way to sync palm devices with ubuntu over bluetooth is with a virtual serial port, bu I don't know how to do that with Gnome GUI (it's for my dad, so it has to be GUI)
[07:34] <kandinski> thanks in advance
[07:34] <fool_> sanku: ssh is not running
[07:35] <fool_> sanku: ps faux |grep ssh
[07:35] <digger3> doleyb: this seems to do the trick: http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=plausible-deniability
[07:35] <suigeneris> nate[oz]: no idea on that, sorry
[07:36] <nate[oz]> nps, thanks mate
[07:36] <nate[oz]> I'm thinking about reinstalling :( can't figure this out
[07:37] <Reidy> I need to upgrade my graphics driver, anyone know how I go about doing this?
[07:38] <agnes> hi
[07:39] <sanku_desktop> fool_: uh! terribly sorry openssh-server and ssh isn't installed! and now synaptic shows some error "Depends: openssh-client (=1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1) but 1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.2 is to be installed"
[07:40] <zeltak> sorry to bother but i cant get an aswer anywhere else..for some reason ubuntu only see 500GB out of 1.5TB in all a.5TB drives..anyone else knwo something abou tit?
[07:40] <digger3> Reidy: try waiting for the next ubuntu release. Updated and tested graphics drivers will be included
[07:40] <Reidy> how long for the next release? LOL.
[07:41] <digger3> Reidy: manually updating your drivers is of course possible, but you really need to know what you're doing. I'd suggest that you wait for the 9.04 release
[07:41] <fool_> nate[oz]: sudo aptitude purge ~c
[07:41] <fool_> then try reinstall it
[07:41] <digger3> Reidy: ;D
[07:41] <fool_> sanku_desktop: sudo aptitude insatll ssh on desktop
[07:43] <unko> can someone help me i can't format my disk to ext3....take a look if this helps http://pastie.org/419516
[07:44] <fool_> unko: Mikes Media ?
[07:45] <unko> fool_, i got it
[07:45] <nmlinuz> hello! ubuntu 32 bit   ||  64 bit??
[07:46] <Reidy> Digger3: How long do you expect it to be? I don't wanna keep paying the monthly bill if I'm gonna have to wait a long time.
[07:46] <doleyb> Reidy: the release is about 30 day
[07:47] <sanku_desktop> fool_: yeah but some version clash on desktop, it asks for a higher version of openssh-client " Depends: openssh-client (=1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1) but 1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.2 is to be installed" this is what i get..
[07:47] <nmlinuz> which ubuntu has better performance? 32bit or 64bit?
[07:47] <Reidy> 30 days until 9.0.4?
[07:48] <digger3> Reidy: well it's scheduled for April 2009, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule  for additional information. If you're really anxious you could install the Release Candidate when it is out
[07:48] <doleyb> nmlinuz: well 64 bit does, if you have a lot of ram (and you should buy ram!)
[07:48] <fool_> sanku_desktop: go through the options, it will give you option to install lower version of ssh, are you using -proposed and such other repos ?
[07:48] <nmlinuz> at 64bit is an os capable to run 32bit apps?
[07:48] <nmlinuz> or not?
[07:49] <fool_> yes nmlinuz
[07:49] <sanku_desktop> fool_: yeah now trying to install older version of openssh-server.. my laptop is having the older version...
[07:49] <nmlinuz> thnx fool_ and doleyb
[07:49] <fool_> nmlinuz: flash has been known to be buggy on 64 bit
[07:49] <fool_> beware
[07:50] <fool_> it all depends on your needs
[07:50] <cafuego> fool_: Are you implying it's not buggy on 32bit? :-)
[07:51] <fool_> haha cafuego well it's not AS buggy on 32bit
[07:51] <nmlinuz> fool_: ok! so i want now to buy a new graphic card. which you suggest? ati or nvidia? i have heard that ati has problems with linux. is that true?
[07:51] <cafuego> if you needs are: youtube; then the 64bit flash plugin is just fine.
[07:52] <o0Chris0o> how do I change back to the default color of ubuntu? I was messing with gnome color chooser and now I can't change it back to the default :(
[07:52] <fool_> nmlinuz: i've had problems and smooth rides with both, get an intel card
[07:52] <fool_> lol
[07:52] <o0Chris0o> !ot
[07:53] <doleyb> nmlinuz: i'm on nvidia, chosen to be OK with linux.  but by knowledge on that is obsolete.
[07:53] <Kartagis> fool_, I got it, PCM was down
[07:53] <cafuego> nmlinuz: The absolutely latest hardware is unlikely to work great; ATI used to be crap, but they're open sourcing the driver, so it should improve. nvidia is completely closed, but tends to work fine.
[07:54] <cafuego> nmlinuz: I have an nvidia on my desktop box, intel on my laptop. The nvidia card is a few years old tho.
[07:54] <fool_> Kartagis: hehe them bars are cranky and needy ;)
[07:54] <neosisani> Atheros wifi on laptop used to work, then i disabeled it somehow and now it won't reenable. modproble ath_pci works but neither ath0 nor wlan0 appear. modproble ath5k doesn't work (no module found). Bluetooth is working (which means that device is physically powered) and lspci shows everything as ok. Any idea what to try now?
[07:54] <WebDawg> dam #gentoo
[07:55] <digger3> nmlinuz: I'd suggest an nvidia card, they have less issues (still issues though) go and see if multi-monitor setups are important to you. I think there are some differences there, not sure
[07:55] <boraklavun> hello everyone
[07:55] <feng> hi
[07:55] <revilodraw> i know this  sounds  ridiculous,but when not in the presence of my home wireless network my ubuntu runs terribly, and when in the presence of my home wireless network it runs perfectly... any ideas?
[07:55] <boraklavun> have a nice day
[07:55] <nacho_> hola
[07:55] <nacho_> algun español
[07:55] <feng> como astas
[07:55] <cafuego> !se
[07:55] <feng> como estas
[07:55] <doleyb> neosisani: make sure you have wlan_scan_sta loaded with ath_pci
[07:55] <cafuego> heh
[07:56] <cafuego> !es
[07:56] <nacho_> bien
[07:56] <quibbler> !es | nacho_
[07:56] <feng> lol
[07:56] <sanku_desktop> is it possible to "rescue" a system having programs installed from different distros?:)
[07:56] <nacho_> ok
[07:56] <moogly> hey there
[07:56] <sanku_desktop> i mean just to know, i'll require that soon:)
[07:56] <ReX__> .
[07:56] <christoz> good morning, when i have updates available, and click on the try icon to see the list with the updates and their description of what changes will be done, there is no response. In order to install the updates i have to right-click the icon, and then install updates, is there anyone with the same problem?
[07:56] <cafuego> sanku_desktop: Depends on how badly you broke it.
[07:56] <neosisani> doleyb, one moment to try
[07:56] <cafuego> sanku_desktop: and how far you're prepared to strip it back.
[07:56] <boraklavun> ı am a new ubuntu users ,I would like to work on linux system,ı took mcse  alos sametimes ı am working  client support  personal.
[07:57] <moogly> i successfully configured the vlc source code, but now the make process is taking minutes whereas i expected it to take seconds
[07:57] <Cappientes> revilodraw, Are you using a static IP addres?
[07:57] <feng> what are some of the best programs for ubuntu?
[07:57] <boraklavun> I would like to learn  linux server how can I do that ı live in Turkey in İstanbul
[07:57] <feng> not constantinople?
[07:58] <doleyb> feng: Lol, I enjoy gcc, that's the best prog
[07:58] <boraklavun> if  anyone can help m about that I am very pleased
[07:58] <feng> gcc?
[07:58] <sanku_desktop> cafuego: hmm i just upgraded libc6 from intrepid on a hardy based system!:) and have another debian installed, so if it went wrong, ill just copy the home folder and have another installation.. but only if its that hard to make it all back with some apt magic..
[07:58] <neosisani> doleyb, you enjoy compiling stuff?
[07:58] <xavierg2003> Does anyone know how too upgrade windows when it wont read the wireless internet.
[07:58] <fool_> feng: that's a very general openended question. what do you need to do ?
[07:59] <doleyb> boraklavun: We can try to help, if you have questions to ask.
[07:59] <doleyb> !tu
[07:59] <sanku_desktop> fool_: thanks a lott.. /me going for a restart..
[07:59] <sanku_desktop> bye
[08:00] <nst> I just want to say hello to everyone
[08:00] <xavierg2003> nevermind
[08:00] <sanku> nst: hello
[08:00] <nst> Have a class.
[08:00] <nst> Bye
[08:02] <revilodraw> Cappientes: no, im not....should i?
[08:02] <zeltak> can anyone recommend a irc channel for hardware issues?
[08:02] <root> hello
[08:02] <neosisani> zeltak, #hardware
[08:02] <Driller> hei, does anyone knows anyone knows any application for electronic simulation?
[08:02] <papa_> bonjour, 'est-il possible de mettre a jour mon tom tom sur ubuntu? merci
[08:02] <neosisani> Driller, like pspice?
[08:02] <Cappientes> revilodraw, No, I was just trying to think of a reason why you'd be getting such poor performance afh
[08:02] <Driller> va a fan culo Frenchy
[08:03] <Driller> yes
[08:03] <Driller> like Pspice
[08:03] <Cappientes> revilodraw, Have you ever ran top from a terminal when you get this poor performance?
[08:03] <Driller> I am trying oregano right now, but I don't know if I can trust the performance of it
[08:04] <revilodraw> yes, and it looks like everything should be running fine - nothing is hogging resources
[08:04] <neosisani> Driller, never used any but look at ngspice or geda
[08:05] <Driller> I have tryed also that, but the graphs that I get, I don't know if I ca really tryst it, cose on PSpice, I get different results
[08:07] <neosisani> doleyb, wlan_scan_sta is loaded, any idea on what to try now
[08:07] <quibbler> !fr | papa
[08:07] <neosisani> how come there are so many non-english speaking people here?
[08:07] <doleyb> neosisani: have you read this bug page? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/182489
[08:07] <revilodraw> Cappientes: yes, and it looks like everything should be running fine - nothing is hogging resources
[08:08] <doleyb> neosisani: (the non-english here because it's sunny in asia)
[08:08] <sanku> fool_: woohoo ssh successfull!! the problem was that the openssh-client installed was 1.2 when the repo still is having openss-server of 1 (may be sometime i took it from some other repo!) now that i have both openssh client and server of 1.5 from intrepid! hope system won't break soon:) thanks a lottt!
[08:09] <Cappientes> revilodraw, Have you tried disabling your wireless(?) when you're @ home or when your afh?
[08:11] <revilodraw> yes, and it worked fine with / without wireless at home, but poorly without wireless afh...   im editing etc/network/interfaces as we speak and changing it to 'auto wlan 0' is this a good idea?
[08:13] <Cappientes> revilodraw, that will bring the interface up automatically at boot - whats the line after that say? make sure there's not a space between the wlan and the 0
[08:13] <sanku> whats the recommended way of sharing files between ubuntus in a lan?
[08:14] <revilodraw> Cappientes: before i edited it it details my home wireless network settings...
[08:14] <feng> fool_: how do I get an application thats supposed to run on WINE into my applications bar?
[08:15] <Cappientes> revilodraw, ahh okay, Do you use networkManager to manage your wireless?
[08:15] <Adman65> Hey, I'm trying to setup a cups-pdf to use in xp, cept xp asks me for connection details for the printer.  My login details don't work.  Anyone got any ideas ?
[08:16] <revilodraw> Cappientes: yes
[08:17] <fliegenderfrosch> sanku: you can use samba, giver or sftp
[08:17] <Reidy> Anyone know how to install the Intel Drivers from http://intellinuxgraphics.org/index.html ?
[08:17] <fool_> sanku: np
[08:18] <arunreddy> How to get Bluetooth headset working in ubuntu 8.10
[08:18] <sanku> like which way would work great by default? there is a link for network on the gnome-panel, its for samba?
[08:18] <Cappientes> revilodraw, When you start to get bad performance is this in applications that are net dependant? And is the other networks you access afh the same ones or do you have trouble with all wireless networks?
[08:18] <fool_> feng: there's the menu editor, i'm not too familiar, dig around
[08:18] <sanku> i mean to recommend to non-techie users..
[08:18] <arunreddy> How to get Bluetooth headset working in ubuntu 8.10
[08:18] <pyrohotdog> I have a syntax error in my kboot.conf, and I've been dropped into busybox. I know what I need to fix, but nano says command not found!
[08:19] <pyrohotdog> How do I invoke and editor in busybox to fix the file?
[08:19] <Reidy> Anyone know how to install the Intel Drivers from http://intellinuxgraphics.org/index.html ?
[08:19] <revilodraw> Cappientes: when programs/folders/files finally open they run really well.... glxgears for example reports 2600  fps... but takes ages to open
[08:19] <massiveoni> heya, who is the best to ask about using ubuntu on a c2d laptop?
[08:19] <JuzProdtionz> dds
[08:20] <arunreddy> massiveoni: c2d laptop.?
[08:20] <massiveoni> core 2 duo
[08:20] <fliegenderfrosch> sanku: samba is well integrated. for passing single files you could giver, which works like IM file sharing. Sftp allows for accessing files on another computer if you have the username/pw of the user.
[08:20] <Reidy> arunreddy: What do you want to know?
[08:20] <dixon2081> i have a question... would you be able to dual boot ubuntu 8.10 desktop with ubuntu server?
[08:20] <arunreddy> massiveoni : i use a c2d laptop.Its works fine for me.. it ricks
[08:21] <sanku> fliegenderfrosch: ic.. thanks buddy..
[08:21] <massiveoni> arunreddy : can i pm you?
[08:21] <fliegenderfrosch> sanku: np
[08:21] <arunreddy> Reidy : I have a dell bh200 bluetooth headset. It doesnt pair with my lappy.. and gives some weird errors
[08:21] <Reidy> Ubuntu runs perfect on my C2D laptop
[08:21] <arunreddy> massiveoni : yep
[08:21] <pyrohotdog> Anyone? How can I edit files in busybox?
[08:22] <massiveoni> what i would like to know should i use 8.10 or wait for 9
[08:22] <doleyb> pyrohotdog: Oh, busybox... i sorta remember that.  Try vi
[08:22] <LogicFan> massiveoni, what do you currently have?
[08:22] <massiveoni> windows vista ultimate msdn, lol
[08:23] <Reidy> arunreddy: When you try to Setup a New Device through the menu, does it show up?
[08:23] <fool_> massiveoni: depends on your hardware (video card / wifi / ... )
[08:23] <arunreddy> yeah device shows up
[08:23] <LogicFan> massiveoni, no need to wait for jaunty
[08:23] <Reidy> Ok, and connecting to it doesn't work?
[08:23] <Cappientes> revilodraw, I can't think of what would be causing that, especially if you've top'ed it during it running slowly unless there was something continually trying to access something that only exists on your home network
[08:23] <massiveoni> yeh wifi n, gf 8400m gs
[08:23] <LogicFan> i bet 8.10 will work, just double-check your hardware
[08:24] <letter_z> whenever I try to open Software Sources or Synaptic package manager, nothing happens. I'm admin on this account. Whats wrong with it?
[08:24] <Cappientes> revilodraw, You haven't got a system proxy set have you?
[08:24] <dixon2081> would you be able to dual boot ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server?
[08:25] <Reidy> !tab
[08:25] <funkyHat> dixon2081: yes, but why?
[08:26] <dixon2081> funkyhat i have just been wondering, because you can dual boot windows and ubuntu, was just wondering if you would be able to dual boot desktop and server
[08:26] <tc111> dixon2081: wouldn't it be better to run one of them in a VM (QEMU, Virtualbox, etc...)?
[08:26] <dixon2081> dont have a VM
[08:26] <funkyHat> dixon2081: Ubuntu server is much the same as Ubuntu desktop, you could just install the server components on your Ubuntu desktop system, and not need to reboot, or use a VM if you really need to have separate machines
[08:26] <arunreddy> Reidy: it connects.. able to detect it ..it doesnt pair..
[08:27] <tc111> dixon2081: which are you running now?
[08:27] <dixon2081> ubuntu 8.10 with kubuntu and xubuntu desktops