[12:59] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: Could be. Hey, wouldn't this be a great project for a firefox extension? ;-)
[12:59] <mdtyke> Timeouts
[01:00] <mdtyke> It literally cant connect
[01:00] <mdtyke> I suppose if I try the iP it'd probably work
[01:00] <mdtyke> I mean, I can connect to my routers page from it.. <IP_ADDRESS> etc
[01:00] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: try that, then it will confirm its a dns problem
[01:00] <heinkel_111> __-osh-__: no, it would be a great add in to konqueror /(the one and only browser :P)
[01:00] <mdtyke> Bleh.. means I have to restart X to try it
[01:00] <mdtyke> Which leads to another one of my problems
[01:01] <mdtyke> If I go into suspend/hibernate, or even as much as lock the thing.. my touchpad drivers stop
[01:01] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: you said at first, that it changes your DNS server settings?
[01:01] <mdtyke> Network Settings in KDE sets my DNS server as <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:01] <mdtyke> And, everytime i connect to the WLAN, it is reset back to that
[01:02] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: do you know what DNS servers your router is using?
[01:02] <mdtyke> I'm guessing my ISPs ones
[01:02] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: if ya know, or can find out, add them to /etc/resolv.conf
[01:02] <mdtyke> If I change that resolv.conf though.. it changes again
[01:02] <mdtyke> Adding stuff in Network Settings edits that file sure
[01:02] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: Sure, that too. Personally I'm a bit peeved that konqueror is out as a filebrowser in next kubuntu. I'm sure dolphin is great but konquror and kioslaves were "da bomb" to quote a youngster. Showing "man:" or "fish:" or "ftp:" or "dpkg:" or... well you get the idea was a hallelulja moment for a lot of people. :-)
[01:02] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: even if you append to it?
[01:03] <mdtyke> If I add something into network settings>dns servers, doesn't it automatically write that to resolv.conf?
[01:03] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: probably
[01:03] <mdtyke> it does.. as I've tried that before :P
[01:03] <heinkel_111> __-osh-__: omg they gonna kill konqui?
[01:03] <Orange1> c0nv1ct: lets say - i want to take my laptop while at my school ( with a limited connection ) and connect to my home pc then use my home pc as a proxy - to access ports taht are blocked like to get on gaim for example
[01:03] <Orange1> what is this whole process called?
[01:03] <firemonkeyballz> im gonna see if deerpark works
[01:04] <Orange1> so i can find a guide for it
[01:04] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: you can try and make resolv.conf 'append only' so it cant be changed
[01:04] <mdtyke> Well, I need to change it
[01:04] <mdtyke> this is the issue, and the point of having a laptop - I'm mobile
[01:04] <mdtyke> so I'm constantly changing DNS servers everywhere I go
[01:04] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: put the proper IPs to your ISP's DNS servers in there, and do 'sudo chattr +a /etc/resolv.conf
[01:04] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: http://dot.kde.org/1172721427/
[01:05] <mdtyke> and what happens when I move to a mobile hotspot
[01:05] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: you'd have to chattr -a the file to change it
[01:05] <mdtyke> well that's as big of a hassel as the original problem
[01:05] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: The idea that I didn't have to diffrentiate between local or remote files were something outstanding in my point of view. Something that kde did right and gnome did wrong (imho).
[01:05] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: or if you always use the same hotspots, add their DNSs in there permenantly
[01:06] <mdtyke> Which I dont unfortunately
[01:06] <firemonkeyballz> anyone try deerpark ?
[01:06] <mdtyke> Hmm.. surely there's an explanation as to why Firefox and Opera can't access <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:06] <mdtyke> I haven't tried that nslookup while I have the problem.. i did it there while I'm connected fine
[01:06] <mdtyke> I can go give that a try, hold on
[01:07] <firemonkeyballz> well deerpark is the 64 bit version of firefox
[01:07] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: it could be that opera and firefox are timing out quicker than konqueror does, and its possible your router fowarding the dns is too slow
[01:07] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: i've had that problem before with routers
[01:07] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: But I'm sure dolphin is great and that the kubuntu team knows what they're doing. I'll give dolphin a go when it ships and if it doesn't suit me I'll just switch back to konqueror. They're not removing it, just not making it the default.
[01:08] <mdtyke> brb
[01:08] <firemonkeyballz> would someone please fix the ARK permissions
[01:08] <firemonkeyballz> geez
[01:08] <firemonkeyballz> cant extract any file
[01:08] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: why not
[01:08] <firemonkeyballz> its set for root
[01:08] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: what is, ARK or the archive?
[01:08] <firemonkeyballz> the archive
[01:09] <firemonkeyballz> I should beable to open ark with root access
[01:09] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:09] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: lol, then you have to extract it as root, or change ownership of the file
[01:09] <firemonkeyballz> yea buh
[01:09] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: if you run ark using kdesu, it should run as root
[01:10] <firemonkeyballz> hrm
[01:10] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: why are you dealing with archives owned by root in the first place?
[01:10] <mdtyke> okay
[01:11] <firemonkeyballz> because it came that way on the website
[01:11] <firemonkeyballz> I downloaded deerpark
[01:11] <mdtyke> Im back.  Opera and FF dead.  Skype, Konqueror and this are working fine
[01:11] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: you are running your browser as root??
[01:11] <mdtyke> nslookup works fine
[01:11] <firemonkeyballz> no
[01:11] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: then how did you download the file?
[01:11] <firemonkeyballz> through konqueror
[01:12] <mdtyke> Adept can't connect either
[01:12] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: weird, then it shouldnt download it owned by root
[01:12] <firemonkeyballz> its been that way since I installed 6.06
[01:12] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: that should only happen if root is the user that actually downloaded it
[01:12] <mdtyke> The browsers just hang on "connecting to xx.com"
[01:13] <firemonkeyballz> think I found a away around it
[01:13] <firemonkeyballz> I just used the save as
[01:13] <mdtyke> Oh.. interesting
[01:14] <mdtyke> in Firefox when I enabled the 'disableIPv6dns' setting, it works
[01:14] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: weird
[01:14] <oem> ok it didnt work after installed the Nvidia drivers i rebooted and the darn thing crashed and i had to reinstall Kubuntu
[01:14] <bentob0x> if there is an error at boot, which log file should I check?
[01:14] <mdtyke> No such option in Opersa
[01:14] <mdtyke> Opera*
[01:14] <bentob0x> like an error in the fstab file for iinstance?
[01:14] <mdtyke> How do I globally disable IPv6?
[01:15] <smile> c0nv1ct: r u here ? :-p
[01:15] <firemonkeyballz> umm that explains everything
[01:15] <c0nv1ct> smile: unfortunately :)
[01:15] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[01:15] <smile> c0nv1ct: i tried
[01:15] <firemonkeyballz> umm do that in opera if you can
[01:16] <firemonkeyballz> then you cant compain
[01:16] <mdtyke> I can.. as Adept doesnt work either
[01:16] <mdtyke> it appears to be a global setting that's causing the conflict
[01:16] <mdtyke> The firefox setting was just a workaround, not a resolution
[01:16] <smile> c0nv1ct: the problem message is "API mismatch Nvidia Kernel module has the version 1.0-8762 and this X module has the vesion 1.0-8776
[01:16] <firemonkeyballz> o
[01:16] <firemonkeyballz> why dont you have ipv6?
[01:17] <c0nv1ct> smile: ok, that means you have 2 drivers running at once
[01:17] <mdtyke> I do have ipv6, but it appears to be causing conflicts
[01:17] <c0nv1ct> smile: that i can fix
[01:17] <smile> c0nv1ct: how ?
[01:17] <c0nv1ct> smile: edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[01:17] <mdtyke> monkey: websites or adept dont work in FF/Opera when IPv6 is on.. could be a router issue, im not sure
[01:17] <c0nv1ct> smile: add DISABLED_MODULES="nv" to it
[01:19] <smile> c0nv1ct: i did it .. will it work fien now ?
[01:19] <smile> c0nv1ct: fine
[01:19] <c0nv1ct> smile: you gotta reboot though
[01:19] <c0nv1ct> smile: before you reboot
[01:19] <smile> c0nv1ct: i see i didnt change the vesion !!!
[01:20] <firemonkeyballz> ok ok I kno I might sound like a noob about this but... how do you install deerpark as like you woudl firefox?
[01:20] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> hey... my time didn't change!!!
[01:20] <c0nv1ct> smile: you have to reboot before it'll take effect
[01:21] <firemonkeyballz> im so not use to using scritps
[01:21] <smile> c0nv1ct: and about the version ???
[01:21] <oem> have to see the dentist see you all later
[01:21] <c0nv1ct> smile: that will fix the version problem
[01:21] <smile> c0nv1ct: ahham .. ok . thx so much
[01:21] <c0nv1ct> smile: this should be the last thing to fix :)
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> anybody in the US, did your time change correctly?
[01:22] <firemonkeyballz> no directions geez
[01:22] <c0nv1ct> nosrednaekim: i think so, what time you got?
[01:22] <smile> c0nv1ct: should i install nvidia-kernel-source too ?
[01:22] <oem> i have 8:22 eastern
[01:22] <c0nv1ct> smile: no, not now, only if its still messed up
[01:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> 7:22,and I'm ont the east coast
[01:23] <c0nv1ct> nosrednaekim: mine says 5:22 for PST o.O
[01:23] <oem> it is actualy 8:22
[01:23] <BluesKaj> it's 8:23 EDT now
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> should be 8: 22
[01:23] <oem> it is actualy 8:22 23 now
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> I know.... I'm confided, zump said should have changed
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> *confused
[01:23] <c0nv1ct> nosrednaekim: type 'zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007'
[01:23] <c0nv1ct> nosrednaekim: it should say march 11th
[01:24] <smile> c0nv1ct: ok thx so much amigo
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> it returns march 11 I tried two days ago
[01:24] <BluesKaj> how old is yer distro nosrednaekim ?
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> this is edgy
[01:24] <BluesKaj> but your original install
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> edy was my original instal
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> this machine is only 3 months old
[01:24] <BluesKaj> hmmm, 'weird
[01:25] <firemonkeyballz> umm green means exicutable right?
[01:25] <BluesKaj> mine changed ok, but I shut my pc down every night , have you rebooted
[01:25] <BluesKaj> ?
[01:25] <firemonkeyballz> in konsole
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> I just turned it on this morning
[01:25] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: it should
[01:26] <firemonkeyballz> then how would I run a shell script
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> just a couple minutes abo
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> *ago
[01:26] <c0nv1ct> nosrednaekim: doing ls -l will confirm that
[01:26] <BluesKaj> then the time should have updated
[01:26] <c0nv1ct> nosrednaekim: i meant firemonkeyballz
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: does it have a .sh ending?
[01:26] <smile> c0nv1ct: when i ask ADEPT to install nvidia-glx .. it asks to install restricted-modules <IP_ADDRESS> but i have <IP_ADDRESS> kernel !!!?
[01:27] <c0nv1ct> smile: have you rebooted yet?
[01:27] <firemonkeyballz> welll in konqueror it sais its a shell script
[01:27] <firemonkeyballz> I dont see the extention
[01:27] <firemonkeyballz> its chopped off
[01:27] <c0nv1ct> smile: you shouldnt be doing anything untill you reboot
[01:27] <firemonkeyballz> visually
[01:27] <smile> c0nv1ct: not yet .. i'm installing nvidia-glx
[01:27] <c0nv1ct> smile: no dont!
[01:27] <c0nv1ct> smile: that will undo the changes we just made
[01:28] <tdn> Can I get installations cds for Kubuntu 7.04?
[01:28] <smile> c0nv1ct: ok
[01:28] <c0nv1ct> smile: reboot first, and see if it works
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> ok... just made my time 8:28... weird?
[01:29] <smile> c0nv1ct: ok .. i will do
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> tdn: you have to download them
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> my whole screen blinked and my audio skipped... never had that problem b4
[01:29] <tdn> nosrednaekim, links?
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> !fiesty
[01:29] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:30] <jake> c0nv1ct: thanx a lot sorry for late reply....
[01:30] <c0nv1ct> jake: everything working now?
[01:30] <oem> what is the command line to check nividia card
[01:30] <thoreauputic> is also @ubuntu-effects
[01:31] <drkm> how do I make window responses better.. e.g moving a window about seems to be a bit laggier compared to say Windows xp.. ?
[01:31] <thoreauputic> um m  #ubuntu-effects sorry
[01:32] <firemonkeyballz> !deerpark
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deerpark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: why are you trying to use an alpha version of firefox?
[01:34] <firemonkeyballz> hey it worked fine in windows
[01:34] <firemonkeyballz> besides firefox isnt 64 bit
[01:34] <c0nv1ct> it is if you installed the amd64 version of ubuntu
[01:34] <oem> can someone give me the link to the pages that give the repositories page
[01:36] <c0nv1ct> isnt deerpark the old one anyway? i thought minefield was newer
[01:37] <c0nv1ct> even bon echo is newer
[01:38] <warewolf_> anyone here use kbfx?
[01:38] <c0nv1ct> i do
[01:38] <warewolf_> why can't I set a skin?
[01:39] <c0nv1ct> what problem are you having?
[01:39] <warewolf_> all the same lame crap black shiny one even though I supposedly have about 6 installed now
[01:39] <rambo> erm
[01:39] <rambo> can anyone help me with my sound
[01:39] <firemonkeyballz> in konqueror I should be able to just click a shell script right?
[01:39] <rambo> i have sb live 24bit
[01:39] <rambo> i set it correct in alsa mixer
[01:39] <rambo> back speakers doesn' play anyway
[01:39] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: i find it best to run shell scripts in a shell :)
[01:39] <firemonkeyballz> I kno
[01:40] <firemonkeyballz> but every time I do
[01:40] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: what version are you using?
[01:40] <firemonkeyballz> it sais its not there
[01:40] <firemonkeyballz> I need to know the exact file name
[01:40] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: <IP_ADDRESS> from repo
[01:40] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: what are you typing exactly to execute it
[01:40] <firemonkeyballz> firefox-installer
[01:40] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: try typing ./firefox-installer
[01:40] <genii> put ./
[01:41] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i had trouble with that version, i compiled the latest version
[01:41] <firemonkeyballz> jeez in suse I didnt need to do that
[01:41] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: there is a new version that came out a couple weeks ago that is a pre-stable version, it runs perfect so far
[01:41] <BluesKaj> Yast sucks tho
[01:42] <c0nv1ct> suse let you run files in the current directory without ./ ??
[01:42] <doomnx> hi guys
[01:42] <c0nv1ct> usually in linux, if you dont explicitly specify the path, it only searches in your PATH variable
[01:43] <c0nv1ct> and by usually, i mean i've never seen it any other way
[01:43] <firemonkeyballz> yea
[01:43] <firemonkeyballz> I have
[01:43] <firemonkeyballz> took a class
[01:43] <firemonkeyballz> they might have configured it that way
[01:43] <c0nv1ct> when i got my degree, we used suse 9, and it wasnt like that then, so i dunno about 10+
[01:44] <genii> c0nv1ct: In *bsd it's the same. I'm pretty sure it's a universal *nix thing
[01:44] <c0nv1ct> genii: i guess it might be possible to set a variable in PATH to always include your current directory
[01:45] <c0nv1ct> though i've never tried
[01:45] <genii> Interesting thing to try :)
[01:45] <c0nv1ct> wonder if it can be done with 'pwd' somehow
[01:46] <doomnx> kubuntu doesn't support OpenGL out of the box does it?
[01:46] <doomnx> i mean there are no 3D drivers, no?
[01:46] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: you'd need to install current drivers for it, if you are an nvidia user... ati is a bit more involved i think
[01:46] <firemonkeyballz> umm ok
[01:46] <firemonkeyballz> ~/deerpark$ cd firefox-installer
[01:46] <firemonkeyballz> firemonkeyballz@fmbllz-inc:~/deerpark/firefox-installer$ ./firefox-installer
[01:46] <firemonkeyballz> ./firefox-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so                   .0
[01:47] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: looks like you need to install some dev packages
[01:47] <doomnx> i managed to play UT2004 with OpenGL support, does this mean i installed the drivers correctly?
[01:47] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: yeah, its possible the default drivers work
[01:47] <firemonkeyballz> yea buh no clue wich
[01:47] <doomnx> what do u mean by default?
[01:47] <firemonkeyballz> cuz I have GCC
[01:47] <genii> doomnx: The usual test gor gl in KDE is kdegears
[01:47] <firemonkeyballz> by default
[01:48] <doomnx> where is kdegears?
[01:48] <genii> doomnx: If kdegears runs, your GL is fine
[01:48] <firemonkeyballz> so umm I need libgtk-x11-2.0.so
[01:48] <firemonkeyballz> ...
[01:49] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: you probably need xorg-dev
[01:49] <doomnx> well... UT2004 runs, isn't it a proof that GL is fine? where can i find kdegears?
[01:49] <genii> doomnx: you should be able to type in a konsole kdegears and it should run. It may be found someplace in the menus, but currently I am not on a KDE box to check where
[01:49] <c0nv1ct> genii: i thought it was glxgears
[01:50] <genii> c0nv1ct: Perhaps :) I am getting them mixed up on occasion
[01:50] <om3ga> how do i partition a flash drive in kubuntu
[01:50] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: try glxgears
[01:50] <doomnx> thanks genii
[01:50] <doomnx> oh
[01:50] <doomnx> so glxgears
[01:50] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: or try 'glxinfo | grep version'
[01:50] <doomnx> okay...
[01:50] <c0nv1ct> it should tell you your OpenGL version, if its installed
[01:51] <genii> doomnx: You may want to put glxgears instead of kdegears, yes. You may have both of them on your box even
[01:51] <firemonkeyballz> not the xserver ones right?
[01:51] <Jucato> glxgears | grep -i render
[01:51] <doomnx> but if the driver installation had gone wrong would i be able to play UT?
[01:51] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: not sure, you can install them too if you want, it wont hurt anything
[01:51] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: heh probably not
[01:51] <doomnx> ok that's what i wanted...
[01:51] <doomnx> because i see no NVIDIA logo when kubuntu starts
[01:52] <doomnx> and i've read that i should be seeing one...
[01:52] <firemonkeyballz> eh its required for it
[01:52] <mdtyke> Hey there c0nv1ct.. think Ive solved it for Opera
[01:52] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: i think thats only with newer drivers
[01:52] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: Ok, that version won't let me open the configuration... I think I've had enough "do-it-yourself" computing for this week.. =P Back to XP for me
[01:52] <mdtyke> and seemingly Adept.. though its sticking at 99%.. but its better than the 0% I had earlier
[01:52] <mdtyke> basically, I disabled IPv6 completely.. seems my router didn't support it, and so it was conflicting somewhere
[01:52] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: it wont let u run ./configure?
[01:53] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: no, I can't open it's configure program..
[01:53] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: weird
[01:53] <doomnx> i installed those: nvidia-glx (1.0.8776+<IP_ADDRESS>-11.2)
[01:53] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: to set themes etc.... gives me a crash report
[01:53] <space_ninja> Where should I put a icon that I have downloaded and how do I change the firefox icon?
[01:53] <firemonkeyballz> x installed
[01:53] <doomnx> and i installed them offline so i need to know if everything is ok...
[01:53] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: did you remove kbfx from teh panel and re-add it
[01:53] <doomnx> i got no errors
[01:53] <firemonkeyballz> just need to log out or restart x
[01:54] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: because its called something different
[01:54] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: yes, I removed it, then removed the old version with adept
[01:54] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: spinx
[01:54] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: sphinx devel?
[01:54] <space_ninja> I mean, where should I put my new icons so the icon selecting thing can see it?
[01:54] <doomnx> something else... is there any explanation for kubuntu freezing when it shuts down?
[01:54] <smile> c0nv1ct: hi .. r u here again ? :-) (soryy to bother u)
[01:54] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: no, the applet is called spinx
[01:55] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: you might have an older version then, is it 4.9.3-20070225 ?
[01:55] <c0nv1ct> smile: hi again :)
[01:55] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i had a problem with the version before that one
[01:55] <smile> c0nv1ct: i get the following msg "can't load /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile/nvidia.ko "
[01:56] <smile> c0nv1ct: why my kernel can't load nvidia driver ?
[01:56] <c0nv1ct> smile: you get that at bootup?
[01:56] <smile> c0nv1ct: ya .. i can't start X server
[01:56] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: I used alien to convert the latest rpm off their website, that one won't let into configure it... and the one from repo's won't "take" a theme I try to give it
[01:56] <doomnx> i can't install beryl on kubuntu, can i?
[01:56] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i think the newest version is only available via source
[01:57] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: you can if you want
[01:57] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: nah.. right on their home page they have everything but a DEB
[01:57] <c0nv1ct> smile: man, i dunno, its one error after another
[01:57] <doomnx> i want
[01:58] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=24898
[01:58] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: thats the latest
[01:58] <smile> c0nv1ct: so no way ? .  :-(
[01:58] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: http://www.kbfx.org/release/0.4.9/testing/ that is latest
[01:58] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: yep thats it
[01:59] <doomnx> c0nv1ct can  u tell me how can install beryl?
[01:59] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i installed using the tarball
[01:59] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: if you are using edgy and nvidia card, i can give you a link
[01:59] <firemonkeyballz> k
[01:59] <firemonkeyballz> back
[01:59] <firemonkeyballz> boot seems faster with the dev packages
[01:59] <firemonkeyballz> odd
[02:00] <smile> c0nv1ct: anyway .. thnx a lot
[02:00] <doomnx> i use nvidia
[02:00] <c0nv1ct> smile: i'm what to do, everything i find and know about is for edgy :(
[02:00] <doomnx> and edgy
[02:00] <firemonkeyballz> ummm still missing package
[02:00] <firemonkeyballz> yey
[02:00] <c0nv1ct> smile: *i'm not sure*
[02:01] <firemonkeyballz> wait
[02:01] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: how do I install with that? drop to console ./install?
[02:01] <doomnx> geforce 6800... can it render beryl effects?
[02:01] <firemonkeyballz> they wrote this for gnome
[02:01] <firemonkeyballz> arg
[02:01] <smile> c0nv1ct: i think edgy & dapper r similar !!....isn't it ?
[02:01] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[02:01] <c0nv1ct> smile: different kernels, and maybe different xorg versions
[02:01] <firemonkeyballz> lib look at the file name libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[02:02] <firemonkeyballz> look gnome tool kit
[02:02] <firemonkeyballz> logical no?
[02:02] <smile> c0nv1ct: ok friend great thnx 2 u
[02:02] <c0nv1ct> smile: best bet is to post on the forums
[02:02] <c0nv1ct> smile: and keep searching them :\
[02:02] <Jucato> gtk = GIMP Tool Kit, btw
[02:02] <firemonkeyballz> o
[02:02] <doomnx> Be prepared for breakage!...
[02:02] <firemonkeyballz> but gimp is installed
[02:03] <smile> c0nv1ct: am not a member!!
[02:03] <Jucato> heh no. I'm just saying what "GTK" stands for :)
[02:03] <firemonkeyballz> least I think it is
[02:03] <c0nv1ct> smile: well register! :)
[02:03] <smile> c0nv1ct: but i'll
[02:03] <doomnx> Not for beginners. great :(
[02:03] <firemonkeyballz> ok guess not
[02:03] <firemonkeyballz> I'll install gimp
[02:03] <Jucato> doomnx: only for the brave of heart :)
[02:04] <Jucato> firemonkeyballz: um.. no need to...
[02:04] <firemonkeyballz> well if it has the package
[02:04] <firemonkeyballz> and I like gimp
[02:04] <SSJ_GZ> firemonkeyballz: Just install ibgtk2.0-0
[02:04] <Jucato> :D
[02:04] <firemonkeyballz> and planed on getting it
[02:04] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: try libgtk2.0-dev package
[02:04] <Jucato> if you want to :)
[02:04] <SSJ_GZ> *lib not ib :)
[02:04] <doomnx> well it requires internet connection to do it :(
[02:04] <Jucato> btw, the -dev packages have nothing to do w/ booting :)
[02:05] <c0nv1ct> lol Jucato, should just let him think its faster :P
[02:05] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: what does this mean: eval: 1: cmake: not found
[02:05] <Jucato> heh
[02:05] <doomnx> i think KDE is faulty...
[02:05] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: it means you dont have cmake :P
[02:05] <firemonkeyballz> Im just saying I dont wanna install something that will conflct with gimp
[02:05] <Jucato> doomnx: why?
[02:05] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: sudo apt-get cmake
[02:05] <doomnx> cause ubuntu shuts down the PC without problem and kubuntu freezes...
[02:05] <Jucato> firemonkeyballz: -dev packages don't conflich w/ gimp. the -dev packages don't even have any programs in them
[02:06] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: it'll probably ask for more stuff, i had a few error and had to install dev packages for that
[02:06] <Jucato> doomnx: hm? did you know that KDE has nothing to do w/ the boot and shutdown process, though?
[02:06] <c0nv1ct> Jucato: dev packages dont really do anything but take up space, unless you are compiling right?
[02:06] <Jucato> c0nv1ct: yeah. not that much space though. :D
[02:06] <doomnx> i don't know... they say that the only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is the GUI
[02:07] <firemonkeyballz> u kno I am noticing a speed increase with the dev packages installed
[02:07] <Jucato> doomnx: yes. that's right. and the GUI has nothing to do w/ booting and shutting down :)
[02:07] <c0nv1ct> Jucato: thats what i thought, i never worry about installing them, if something asks for them, they get installed
[02:07] <doomnx> and then what would be the problem?
[02:07] <Jucato> firemonkeyballz: was there anything else you installed/updated together w/ the -dev packages? because -dev aren't programs :)
[02:08] <doomnx> kubuntu freezes on Kubuntu screen with gears when it shuts down
[02:08] <firemonkeyballz> no just one file
[02:08] <firemonkeyballz> it was looking for
[02:08] <firemonkeyballz> they didnt give me a readme file
[02:08] <firemonkeyballz> so Im just left to you
[02:08] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[02:08] <Jucato> doomnx: not really sure. I'm guessing it must be something more kubuntu-specific than KDE
[02:08] <warewolf_> Jucato: Kubuntu hard-locks when using wifi/beryl.. ubuntu does not =P
[02:08] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: its most likely driver related then
[02:08] <Jucato> firemonkeyballz: who didn't give you a readme file? that's baaaad...
[02:08] <firemonkeyballz> deerpark's website
[02:09] <Jucato> warewolf_: Beryl is not a good measure of stability :)
[02:09] <warewolf_> Jucato: Kubuntu doesn't automount my win partitions.. ubuntu does =P
[02:09] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: you do realize that deer park is old right?
[02:09] <Jucato> warewolf_: it does mine :P
[02:09] <firemonkeyballz> yea
[02:09] <firemonkeyballz> but its fast
[02:09] <doomnx> c0nv1ct i am talking about clean OS installation ( i don't have internet, i can add anything )
[02:09] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: if you want fast, try swiftfox
[02:10] <doomnx> and yes, it was freezing before i installed the nvidia drivers
[02:10] <firemonkeyballz> ok then add fasterfox?
[02:10] <firemonkeyballz> and get faster
[02:10] <c0nv1ct> speaking of swiftfox, anyone know if flash works with it in i386 kernel?
[02:10] <warewolf_> Jucato: I've tried ubuntu and kubuntu 6.06/6.10/7.04 on this system... kde builds don't automount my win partitions on this machine.. craziest thing
[02:10] <c0nv1ct> it didnt work right in amd64
[02:10] <Jucato> warewolf_: crazy machine :D
[02:11] <firemonkeyballz> umm technically I used fasterfox.xpi in windows
[02:11] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: yeah, your box is cursed, cuz it automounted for me after install
[02:11] <Pollyo> Any idea if a netgear wireless card can be made to work under kubuntu?
[02:11] <firemonkeyballz> for firefox
[02:11] <doomnx> can i do something to shut down properly?
[02:11] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: you can install that in linux if you want
[02:11] <Pollyo> Netgear wg311v3 to be exact.
[02:11] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: who knows.. I have been through about 10 distro's this weekend but I keep coming back to kubuntu
[02:11] <firemonkeyballz> k convlct will swift fox support all xpi
[02:12] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: now cmake wants me to specify a compiler... man you make ton's of work for me
[02:12] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: i'd assume so, its just a rebuilt firefox specificly for your CPU
[02:12] <dystopianray> how can I make kde show unmounted removeable drives on the desktop?
[02:13] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: unmounted? you could just make a link to the mount point
[02:13] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: no i mean, dynamically using hal
[02:13] <Jucato> dystopianray: right-click on desktop, Configure Desktop -> Behavior options -> Device Icons tab?
[02:13] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: dynamically linking unmounted drives?
[02:14] <firemonkeyballz> anyone know why Im not allowed to use composit mode on ati specific cards
[02:14] <c0nv1ct> i guess i dont understand
[02:14] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: no... just showing unmounted devices, exactly like how it shows mounted devices, but with unmounted devices too
[02:14] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: cuz ati sucks at linux :P
[02:14] <firemonkeyballz> o
[02:14] <dystopianray> Jucato: there is no option for showing unmounted removeable drives
[02:14] <firemonkeyballz> well I cant wait for transparency
[02:14] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: i see unmounted floppies
[02:14] <firemonkeyballz> natively
[02:14] <Jucato> dystopianray: er... how would it do that anyway?
[02:14] <crazy_bus> I just reinstalled kubuntu and for some reason kaffeine is playing up.  Even though I have libxvidcore, libmp4 etc installed.  Xvid's and mp4's aren't playing.  What should I do?
[02:14] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: in those options
[02:15] <doomnx> sorry i got d/c
[02:15] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: I'm not talking about floppy disks, I mean removeable usb drives and sd cards
[02:15] <firemonkeyballz> oh and I still keep getting mixer errors at shutdown
[02:15] <c0nv1ct> crazy_bus: have you installed the libxine-extracodecs package?
[02:15] <doomnx> i asked what is your opinion about Mandriva 2007 PowerPack+?
[02:15] <ubuntu> HELLO, i have a problem i cant hear any sound in kubuntu i did hear the welcome sound but in amarok i dont hear sound
[02:16] <Jucato> ubuntu: are you trying to play an MP3 on a fresh installation?
[02:16] <dystopianray> Jucato: it only has to show devices that are present but not mounted, vanilla kde does it, kubuntu's kde has been modified not to do it
[02:16] <firemonkeyballz> ubunto bot I can hear sound you dolt
[02:16] <ubuntu> its an internet radio stream
[02:16] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: Thanks for your time / help... I've had about all the goofing around for an OS I can take.. I've lost most of my weekend already trying to get away from windows and I'm no closer now then I started =P
[02:16] <doomnx> oh, how can i make my MP3 player to work in Kubuntu?
[02:16] <Jucato> ubuntu: ah, then you need the codecs to play the type of media it is streaming
[02:16] <Jucato> !mp3 | doomnx
[02:16] <ubotu> doomnx: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:16] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: maybe try again next week :)
[02:16] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: lol, i feel ya man, take your time, dont try to fix it all today :)
[02:17] <ubuntu> it is playing Jucato i can see it but no sound
[02:17] <Jucato> doomnx: if you're on Kubuntu Edgy, just simply try playing an MP3 and it will start a script to install the codecs
[02:17] <doomnx> i mean my portable mp3 player
[02:17] <Jucato> doomnx: aaah..
[02:17] <ubuntu> Jucato:  its more complex
[02:17] <Jucato> doomnx: just plug it in?
[02:17] <doomnx> i installed libxine extracodecs
[02:17] <dystopianray> doomnx: what brand/model is it?
[02:17] <doomnx> transfer files etc
[02:17] <ubuntu> i am using kubuntu in vmware beta 6 with vista ultimate as host os
[02:17] <doomnx> Creative Zen MicroPhoto
[02:17] <dystopianray> doomnx: does it support MTP?
[02:18] <Jucato> ubuntu: can you give a link?
[02:18] <Jucato> oh.. hm...
[02:18] <doomnx> yeah on windows it says MPT Media Player or sth
[02:18] <ubuntu> link?
[02:18] <doomnx> it's like the iPod
[02:18] <dystopianray> doomnx: amarok should be able ot handle it then
[02:18] <Jucato> ubuntu: so that I could try to see if it will play here
[02:18] <doomnx> when i connected once it was recognised as a camera
[02:18] <doomnx> :S
[02:18] <dystopianray> doomnx: yeah MTP is a modification of PTP which is used in cameras
[02:18] <ubuntu> i dont have a link its just a stream in amarok
[02:18] <Jucato> ubuntu: but just in case, have you installed libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs (need to manually download this one)
[02:19] <crazy_bus> c0nv1ct: thanks.  I had the thing downloaded in apt but for some reason it didn't install.   I think there's a premade one
[02:33] <ubuntu> ok
[02:33] <payam> can you say what i should write in terminal?
[02:33] <Jucato> payam: you can try if the unrar-free package will open it for you: sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[02:34] <dystopianray> payam: unrar x blah.rar
[02:34] <payam> no it doesnt work
[02:35] <dystopianray> payam: do you have unrar installed?
[02:35] <c0nv1ct> doesnt ARK support rar?
[02:35] <payam> No
[02:35] <dystopianray> payam: well install it already
[02:35] <payam> How?
[02:35] <Jucato> payam: if you don't have any unrar utility installed, you won't be able to unrar anything
[02:35] <c0nv1ct> payam: sudo apt-get install unrar
[02:35] <payam> Im a bigginer in Linux
[02:35] <c0nv1ct> i could of swore i already said that :P
[02:35] <payam> how can i install it
[02:35] <payam> Its that i ask you about
[02:35] <c0nv1ct> payam: sudo apt-get install unrar
[02:35] <c0nv1ct> type that in the console
[02:36] <fernando> dystopianray: samba let me create accounts and people can connected??
[02:36] <dystopianray> if he's a begginner he probably doesn't have have multiverse enabled
[02:36] <dystopianray> fernando: yes, just like windows, standard smb filesharing
[02:36] <payam> anyone can swedish here
[02:36] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: yeah, you wanna walk him through that? or installing it from rarlabs.com? :P
[02:36] <payam> bkz i cant translate these...
[02:37] <payam> what should i do right now?
[02:37] <BluesKaj> !se
[02:37] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[02:39] <mdtyke> Hey.. Im having a little problem.  When I go into hibernate/suspend, and come back, my mouse driver appears to have conked out.  Using synaptics touchpad.  Anyone any ideas?
[02:39] <space_ninja> what's the extesion name for vector graphic pictures?
[02:39] <dystopianray> space_ninja: there are many extensions for the many vector graphic picture formats
[02:40] <space_ninja> can I save vector pictures with kolourpaint?
[02:40] <fernando> dystopianray: thanks.. another question.. wich package shoud I install?? because with "samba" on adept I get many possiblites
[02:40] <dystopianray> space_ninja: does it have an svg option?
[02:40] <dystopianray> fernando: I'm not to sure just 'samba' i imagine
[02:40] <Jucato> space_ninja: no, I don't think so
[02:41] <fernando> dystopianray: okis..thanks again.. :-)
[02:41] <dystopianray> space_ninja: you'll probably want something like inkscape for vector graphics
[02:41] <space_ninja> ok
[02:41] <dystopianray> fernando: I am a kubuntu newcomer myself, so still working some things out
[02:41] <genii> mdtyke: You may find something helpful here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/22931
[02:42] <fernando> dystopianray: my too :-)
[02:42] <firemonkeyballz> ummm... how do I get swiftfox to run
[02:42] <firemonkeyballz> it didnt show up in the menu
[02:42] <dystopianray> why does nethack have it's own init script??
[02:42] <azaraelus> hi@all
[02:43] <mdtyke> I don't think that's the same bug.  It says its fixed in Edgy; and I'm running Edgy.. sorry, forgot to state which version I was using
[02:43] <mdtyke> It may be an underlying ACPI problem though.  I'm using a laptop, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to do that variable CPU frequency (throttling) thing.. my battery barely lasts anymore
[02:45] <doomnx> well if anyone has any solution to Kubuntu freezing when it shuts down plz tell me
[02:45] <doomnx> sometimes it will show an out of range monitor message
[02:45] <firemonkeyballz> gahhhh
[02:46] <firemonkeyballz> no wonder I cant run it
[02:46] <firemonkeyballz> its owned by root
[02:46] <LaNCeloT_RW> hi guys!
[02:46] <firemonkeyballz> grrr
[02:46] <LaNCeloT_RW> im back! hehehe With Ubuntu 6.10 + Beryl
[02:46] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: still working on swiftfox?
[02:46] <azaraelus> i have a question: i don't know the root-password, because i haven't anything specified. is there a standard-password? i want to install something with su
[02:46] <firemonkeyballz> yea
[02:46] <firemonkeyballz> wont run
[02:46] <dystopianray> azaraelus: there is no root password, use sudo
[02:46] <firemonkeyballz> and its not in the menu
[02:47] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: you can just do sudo su, and enter your user password
[02:47] <space_ninja> I can't see the pixels in vector graphic, and I'm into pixel art, I need to measure everything.. :)
[02:47] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: that will give you an actual root prompt, if you really need it
[02:47] <azaraelus> ok thank you
[02:48] <firemonkeyballz> why is root taking ownership of every file I create
[02:48] <firemonkeyballz> grrr
[02:49] <firemonkeyballz> well reinstall
[02:49] <azaraelus> where can i change the rights for /etc/tor/torrc? i want to add something
[02:49] <doomnx> LaNCeloT_RW is it good?
[02:50] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: you can use chown or chmod to modify the rights
[02:50] <doomnx> is there any lcd monitor calibration software for kubuntu?
[02:50] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: or you can use sudo to do it
[02:50] <LaNCeloT_RW> doomnx, LOL
[02:50] <azaraelus> c0nv1ct, but how? i'm linux beginner and don't know anything
[02:50] <doomnx> no? :S
[02:51] <LaNCeloT_RW> doomnx, Yes, this is hehehe 2 weeks waitin' for this
[02:51] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: use the command 'sudo' before any command to assume root rights for that command
[02:51] <doomnx> yeah i bet beryl rocks
[02:51] <c0nv1ct> !sudo
[02:51] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:51] <doomnx> what does sh do?
[02:51] <doomnx> is it like run?
[02:51] <genii> azaraelus: For simple, in a konsole type: kdesu kate     then open it in that editor and save it back
[02:52] <doomnx> i used it to install UT2004
[02:52] <doomnx> is there any lcd monitor calibration software for kubuntu?
[02:52] <azaraelus> ok, thank you. i will test it ;)
[02:53] <dystopianray> doomnx: what sort of calibration are you talking about? colour calibration?
[02:53] <azaraelus> kdesu: command not found
[02:53] <doomnx> gamma/colour u know
[02:54] <doomnx> cause i think my screen favors blue a bit more :P
[02:54] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: 'sudo apt-get install kdesu' to install it
[02:54] <dystopianray> doomnx: well there is the gamma correction tab in the monitor section of system settings
[02:54] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: you must of installed Ubuntu not Kubuntu then?
[02:54] <genii> azaraelus: You are in the kubuntu channel. Do you have KDE desktop?
[02:54] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: if you are in gnome, use gksudo, and go to #ubuntu :P
[02:54] <LaNCeloT_RW> doomnx, yes man, Beryls is nice :>
[02:55] <genii> c0nv1ct: thx
[02:55] <azaraelus> yes, i use gnome. thank you and bye bye
[02:55] <doomnx> yeah i've seen that tab, how do u use it?
[02:55] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: hehe np
[02:55] <dystopianray> doomnx: you move the sliders and it change the gamma target until it's how you like it
[02:55] <corveum> c0nv1ct: All very useful, still can't mount a samba share... ugh
[02:55] <doomnx> no, it has some squares above it
[02:55] <c0nv1ct> corveum: you are still workn on that? i'm about to start testing it on my end
[02:56] <c0nv1ct> corveum: are you trying to connect to a XP machine?
[02:56] <dystopianray> doomnx: it says to adjust them until the squares blend into the background as much as possible
[02:56] <doomnx> u should somehow match those colours or what?
[02:56] <doomnx> they have different colour, how could they blend? :S
[02:57] <corveum> c0nv1ct: That's next... I'm just trying to connect to the Windows 2000 fileserver on my Active Directory Windows network
[02:57] <dystopianray> doomnx: blend as much as possible
[02:57] <doomnx> omg, that's the huge disadvantage of using lcds...
[02:57] <c0nv1ct> corveum: ahh, that should be the easy part :)
[02:57] <doomnx> the one is yellow and the other blue in my PC... i can't blend those 2 :S
[02:57] <dystopianray> doomnx: 'as much as possible'
[02:57] <doomnx> and why is the gamma 2.0? is there some particular reason?
[02:58] <dystopianray> doomnx: no, change it to whatever you prefer
[02:58] <doomnx> okay...
[02:58] <doomnx> thanks a lot
[02:58] <dystopianray> doomnx: there are probably gamma correction pages online that are more effective than those squares
[02:59] <doomnx> u've been a great help once again ( i know about those pages, i did a lot of research on windows and i concluded on hardware calibration suits or multi-point gamma correction programs)
[02:59] <doomnx> whatever see you guys
[03:02] <fernando> someone here know how to use samba????
[03:02] <dorshin> i have added an additional panel,and trying to change the additional panel configuration but i cant find it?(fresh edgy installation)
[03:02] <dystopianray> fernando: if you go into the filesharing section of the system settings and configure it to let anyone share folders, then you can right click on folders in konq and go to 'share'
[03:02] <dystopianray> fernando: assuming you have 'samba' installed I guess
[03:04] <dorshin> when i right click and select configure panel,it works just for main panel.
[03:04] <Jucato> dorshin: you need to restart the panel. Press Alt+F2, type in: dcop kicker kicker restart
[03:05] <dorshin> is it just a single command?
[03:05] <dorshin> first "dcop kicker" later "kicker restart"?
[03:05] <fernando> dystopianray: do you know any gui for a ssh client??? a good one?
[03:06] <dystopianray> fernando: konsole ?
[03:06] <Jucato> dorshin: one command
[03:06] <Jucato> dorshin: dcop kicker kicker restart
[03:06] <dorshin> ok let me try.
[03:06] <dystopianray> fernando: or do you mean for copying files? use the fish:/ ioslave in konq
[03:07] <fernando> dystopianray: no.. a program with a interface..
[03:07] <dystopianray> fernando: or if you're talking about windows, use putty
[03:07] <fernando> dystopianray: for linux
[03:07] <dystopianray> fernando: no idea, maybe putty runs on linux, I don't know
[03:07] <dystopianray> fernando: what is hard about typing 'ssh user@host' ?
[03:07] <dorshin> it is ok Jucato,
[03:07] <dorshin> thank you.
[03:08] <BackwardsDown> there is a putty version for linux
[03:08] <BackwardsDown> its handy, becouse it save's your preferences
[03:09] <BackwardsDown> putty is in the repro
[03:09] <Vedo> hi to all
[03:09] <Vedo> ciao a tutti
[03:09] <BackwardsDown> Vedo: hi
[03:10] <Jucato> just in case...
[03:10] <Jucato> !it
[03:10] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:11] <firemonkeyballz> seems I have the same problem with firefox
[03:11] <firemonkeyballz> aka deerpark
[03:11] <Vedo> ubotu, Thanks for the info
[03:12] <firemonkeyballz> !libgtk
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <firemonkeyballz> !libraries gtk
[03:12] <dystopianray> is there an rss feed or something that i can subscribe to, to find out about package updates in edgy?
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libraries gtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <c0nv1ct> corveum: woot, got samba working, with rw permissions
[03:13] <firemonkeyballz> convlct does it work on ntfs ?
[03:13] <c0nv1ct> its a samba share
[03:13] <BluesKaj> dystopianray, in the terminal , sudo apt-get update ...that way you update your repositories and hence any pkges that are upodated on the repos as well
[03:13] <c0nv1ct> and the share is on a ntfs partition on the XP machine
[03:14] <firemonkeyballz> :D
[03:14] <dystopianray> BluesKaj: but I want an rss feed or something to tell me when I should be updating
[03:14] <firemonkeyballz> good then I can burn all my data from here
[03:14] <firemonkeyballz> :D
[03:15] <c0nv1ct> i gotta figure out how to add it to fstab, without it showing my password in plain text now
[03:16] <firemonkeyballz> dood  I needed the glade common files
[03:16] <firemonkeyballz> or
[03:16] <firemonkeyballz> something Im not sure
[03:16] <firemonkeyballz> havent installed anything yet
[03:16] <fernando> dystopianray: bassically, because in the ege of windows interface, I get the feel I am losing my time with this command...
[03:17] <dystopianray> fernando: what command?
[03:17] <dystopianray> oh ssh
[03:17] <fernando> dystopianray: all this linux command for every think.. :-p
[03:17] <BluesKaj> dystopianray, just do the cmnd once a day , should be sufficient
[03:17] <dystopianray> BluesKaj: are packages updated once a day?
[03:18] <fernando> dystopianray: for example, is a command line program for ssh... but.. I have to read about the command to use them
[03:18] <dystopianray> BluesKaj: how much does it download on each update?
[03:18] <fernando> dystopianray: an so on..
[03:18] <dystopianray> fernando: ssh user@host
[03:18] <BluesKaj> dystopianray, dunno
[03:18] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: adept has a notifier that runs in the background, is that what you want?
[03:18] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: no I hate adept
[03:18] <fernando> dystopianray: and then what???
[03:18] <dystopianray> fernando: and then type in your password
[03:18] <fernando> and then what?
[03:18] <dystopianray> and then do whatever you want
[03:19] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: you hate it so much, you wouldnt let it atleast notify you?
[03:19] <dystopianray> fernando: what do you want to use ssh for?
[03:19] <dystopianray> fernando: you can start X applicaitons through ssh, you can use the terminal, you can use konq for ssh file transfers
[03:19] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: it doesnt actually force you to use adept manager
[03:19] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: how does it notify me? is it sitting there running apt-get update?
[03:20] <LaNCeloT_RW> hi dudes.. someone here send me 3 weeks ago a link to download via torrent a software called: CrossOver
[03:20] <BluesKaj> that notifier is annoying I turned it off a long time ago cuz it bugs you to "upgrade" as well as "update" and upgrading changes driver settings if yer not really careful.
[03:20] <LaNCeloT_RW> anyone knows this link?
[03:20] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: no, it just sits in your task bar, and then turns into a pic of a package when there are updates
[03:20] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: how does it determine if an update is available?
[03:20] <dystopianray> I'd prefer a mailing list or rss feed
[03:20] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: i'm sure it polls the repos
[03:20] <dystopianray> LaNCeloT_RW: use google
[03:20] <firemonkeyballz> convlct im still missing something from hte gtk
[03:21] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: what is it asking for?
[03:21] <firemonkeyballz> swift wont run as the same as deerpark wont run
[03:21] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: what is the error?
[03:21] <LaNCeloT_RW> dystopianray, thx man.. i did it :>
[03:21] <danychouinard> My computer did not change time this night (for the new daylight time save) what did I miss, I thought *nix systems were not having trouble with that
[03:21] <firemonkeyballz> /opt/swiftfox/swiftfox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:21] <firemonkeyballz> firemonkeyballz@fmbllz-inc:/opt/swiftfox$
[03:21] <c0nv1ct> danychouinard: mine updated fine
[03:22] <fernando> so.. I am connected to a server with the command line, how do I send a file to the server with commands??
[03:22] <dystopianray> danychouinard: they don't have trouble as long as your timezone definitions are up to date
[03:22] <LaNCeloT_RW> anyone know a good bittorrent download manager?
[03:22] <dystopianray> LaNCeloT_RW: ktorrent comes with kubuntu
[03:22] <firemonkeyballz> /pm convlct
[03:22] <firemonkeyballz> /opt/swiftfox/swiftfox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:22] <firemonkeyballz> firemonkeyballz@fmbllz-inc:/opt/swiftfox$
[03:22] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: try 'find /usr/lib | grep libgtk' and see if its in there
[03:22] <danychouinard> How do I check my timezone definition,  I only know it is related to tzdata package
[03:23] <c0nv1ct> danychouinard: run 'zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007' and see if it says march 11th
[03:23] <firemonkeyballz> /pm cOnvlct
[03:24] <firemonkeyballz> firemonkeyballz@fmbllz-inc:/opt/swiftfox$ find /usr/lib | grep libgtk
[03:24] <firemonkeyballz> /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.800.20
[03:24] <LaNCeloT_RW> dystopianray, i use ubuntu by this time
[03:24] <firemonkeyballz> /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[03:24] <firemonkeyballz> /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.la
[03:24] <firemonkeyballz> /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.a
[03:24] <firemonkeyballz> /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so
[03:24] <firemonkeyballz> f
[03:24] <LaNCeloT_RW> gnome + Beryl
[03:24] <BluesKaj> danychouinard, right click on the clock /configure clock/timezones
[03:24] <dystopianray> LaNCeloT_RW: #ubuntu might be more help to you
[03:24] <LaNCeloT_RW> dystopianray, ok man.. tnx
[03:25] <fernando> dystopianray: I am connected to a server with ssh (terminal)..how can I send a file from my hard disk to the server???
[03:25] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: use pastebin next time, but see if swiftbox needs you to specify your lib directory
[03:25] <firemonkeyballz> k
[03:25] <dystopianray> fernando: use konqueror
[03:25] <dystopianray> fernando: fish://user@host
[03:26] <dystopianray> or just fish://host and it asks for a username:password i think
[03:26] <firemonkeyballz> so edit the shell script?
[03:27] <baltazar>  !
[03:28] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: are you running swiftfox-bin or swiftfox?
[03:28] <firemonkeyballz> swiftfox
[03:28] <danychouinard> Well, My timezone is ok ( Montreal) but still beleive we're EDT
[03:28] <dystopianray> what is swiftfox?
[03:28] <baltazar>    =)       2
[03:28] <Jucato> baltazar: English please
[03:28] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: some nonfree firefox build, thats faster
[03:29] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: faster at rendering?
[03:29] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: its specific builds for your CPU, it does run faster on my system
[03:29] <BluesKaj> !ru
[03:29] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[03:29] <firemonkeyballz> either way I run it from the directory or the menu
[03:29] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: just setting -march during compilation?
[03:29] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: faster loading, rendering, and it seems, browsing even
[03:29] <firemonkeyballz> wont run
[03:30] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: have you benchmarked it's performance relative to vanilla firefox?
[03:30] <masai> alguien que me ayde en espaol
[03:30] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: not yet, but i'm sure someone else has
[03:30] <BluesKaj> !es
[03:30] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:30] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: you cant run them side by side, wich would make it a bit easier to test
[03:30] <masai> alguien que me ayude en espaol
[03:30] <Jucato> !es | masai
[03:31] <ubotu> masai: please see above
[03:31] <corveum> c0nv1ct: any luck with a mount yet?
[03:31] <masai> gggracias
[03:31] <c0nv1ct> corveum: yep, works perfect :)
[03:31] <corveum> Pointers?
[03:31] <c0nv1ct> corveum: are you connecting to XP or 2k?
[03:32] <corveum> 2k
[03:32] <c0nv1ct> corveum: ah ok, u should be fine then, i'll give ya the syntax i used to mount
[03:33] <c0nv1ct> corveum: sudo mount -t smbfs -o gid=1000,uid=1000,username=whatever,password=blah //<IP_ADDRESS>/share /media/share
[03:33] <c0nv1ct> corveum: using gid= and uid= for my linux user account was the only way i found to let me write, though there may be another way
[03:34] <c0nv1ct> corveum: i havent tested it in fstab, cuz my only XP box is in vmware :)
[03:36] <corveum> c0nv1ct: Now that works
[03:36] <corveum> c0nv1ct: muchas gracias
[03:37] <c0nv1ct> corveum: np man, i dont remember having to use UID and GID before, but w/e it works
[03:38] <corveum> c0nv1ct: any time you want come to Vietnam and work for peanuts, just let me know
[03:38] <firemonkeyballz> is there some sort of deltree command?
[03:38] <firemonkeyballz> in linux
[03:38] <dystopianray> firephoto: rm -rf
[03:38] <dystopianray> err firemonkeyballz that was meant for
[03:38] <firemonkeyballz> thanx
[03:38] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: use it carefully :P
[03:38] <firemonkeyballz> I ko
[03:39] <firemonkeyballz> dont delete anything your mother would
[03:39] <firemonkeyballz> sorta thing
[03:40] <firemonkeyballz> cuz I used rmdir with the not empty option before
[03:40] <firemonkeyballz> didnt work to well
[03:40] <firemonkeyballz> think it just removed the symbolic links for that folder
[03:40] <corveum> c0nv1ct: speaking of  VM what do you need installed to make a new VM Machine?
[03:41] <c0nv1ct> corveum: i use the actual vmware workstation
[03:41] <c0nv1ct> corveum: the vmware server app is free, but i've never used it
[03:42] <corveum> c0nv1ct: Yeah, I have server downloaded, but again, all command line, no idea how to get around it, or if it suports creating VM machines
[03:42] <dystopianray> corveum: there are websites that will create a vm machine for you for free, for use in vmware player
[03:42] <fernando> how can I zip a file with password???
[03:42] <c0nv1ct> corveum: i think 'server' is for prebuilt vmware machines,
[03:42] <dystopianray> corveum: you start the vmware server daemon and then use the gui frontend to control it
[03:42] <BluesKaj> !VMWare
[03:43] <firemonkeyballz> think im going to make an alias for that command so I dont forget it
[03:43] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[03:43] <c0nv1ct> yeah, player is just for prebuilt too
[03:43] <dystopianray> no server can create machines
[03:43] <matrix> hi, i can not read my windows drives as a user. but in /etc/fstab i have user,rw as options. What can i do?
[03:43] <dystopianray> and there are websites that will create custom machines for you, for use in player
[03:43] <fernando> HOW CAN I ZIP A FILE WITH PASSWORD???
[03:43] <dystopianray> matrix: you need to specify a umask
[03:44] <corveum> c0nv1ct: You see the whole reason I decided to try Linux again after 7 years away is because Windows Server 2003 wasn't stable on my Acer laptop
[03:44] <dystopianray> fernando: shouting is only going to piss people off
[03:44] <BluesKaj> matrix install ntfs-3g
[03:44] <BluesKaj> !ntfs-3g | matrix
[03:44] <ubotu> matrix: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:44] <c0nv1ct> fernando: use -P
[03:44] <fernando> dystopianray: you dont have to answer the question and thats all :-)
[03:44] <c0nv1ct> fernando: use 'man' bro
[03:45] <dystopianray> fernando: if you read the zip man page you'd have found your answer within seconds
[03:45] <firemonkeyballz> fernando info works too
[03:45] <c0nv1ct> fernando: i found the answer in 5 seconds by typing 'man zip' and scrolling down a couple pages
[03:45] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: -P is insecure
[03:45] <dystopianray> -e should be used
[03:45] <corveum> c0nv1ct: and I need to run windows server for my software development (no drivers available for 2000 server, so that was out)
[03:46] <matrix> BluesKaj: thx for the hint. do you think i also should install it if i realy only need read access
[03:46] <fernando> am sorry, my question is without the command line..
[03:46] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: only if someone else has access to your machine's prompt
[03:46] <dystopianray> matrix: no you don't need it, you only need to specify a umask
[03:46] <fernando> doesnt have linux interfaces???
[03:46] <matrix> BluesKaj: i can not even enter the directory as a normal user after mounting it
[03:46] <LaNCeloT_RW> guys, where can i find a website to search and download software that are in .deb extension?
[03:46] <dystopianray> matrix: ntfs has no unix permissions, the defaults are overly restrictive
[03:46] <BluesKaj> !fuser | matrix
[03:46] <dystopianray> LaNCeloT_RW: google
[03:46] <LaNCeloT_RW> dystopianray, k
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <dystopianray> matrix: mount -o umask=022 /dev/blah /blah, i believe that should work
[03:47] <matrix> dystopianray: the dir i mount my win partition to is rwx for all user before the mount after the mount only root has dr-x
[03:47] <dystopianray> matrix: the mountpoint's permissions are irrelevant
[03:47] <BluesKaj> !fuse
[03:47] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:48] <matrix> dystopianray: when i don't want to do this each time manually I still have to put it in fstab or did there anything change about it?
[03:48] <c0nv1ct> corveum: why were u running a server platform on a laptop?
[03:48] <dystopianray> matrix: yes you must always specify a umask
[03:48] <c0nv1ct> corveum: nm i read further
[03:48] <matrix> dystopianray: my line in fstab is:
[03:49] <dystopianray> matrix: just add umask=022 to the options part
[03:49] <matrix> "/dev/sda5       /media/windows2 auto     user,rw                 0       0"
[03:49] <dystopianray> user,rw,umask=022
[03:49] <matrix> dystopianray: i always thought it is covered by rw. strange could swear it worked before
[03:50] <dystopianray> matrix: no, it's handled by umask
[03:50] <dystopianray> matrix: iirc, rw is the default where ro is not specified
[03:51] <matrix> dystopianray: added umask=022 and did umount and mount as user. still no access...
[03:51] <dystopianray> matrix: what are the permissions on that filesystem?
[03:52] <firemonkeyballz> ok thats it Im getting a deb package
[03:52] <matrix> dystopianray: what do you mean? the fs is ntfs, i only want to read it. my fstab line i already gave you. what additional information can i give you?
[03:52] <dystopianray> matrix: the permissions on the directory you can't access
[03:53] <matrix> ls -al output after mounting?
[03:53] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[03:53] <matrix> dr-x------  1 root   root
[03:53] <timothy_> hello
[03:53] <roberto> hi
[03:53] <Dr_willis> Hello./
[03:54] <timothy_> what is the sudo string to mount drive b
[03:54] <dystopianray> matrix: what about if you run the 'mount' command, does it show the umask=022 as a mount option?
[03:54] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: you first have to find out what device drive b is
[03:54] <corveum> Anybody got a favorite GUI xhtml editor?
[03:54] <timothy_> it is my secondary hd
[03:55] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: use fdisk -l to find out what device it is
[03:55] <timothy_> isnt it like /pmount/hdb    ?
[03:55] <timothy_> i already know the device
[03:55] <c0nv1ct> probably not
[03:55] <firemonkeyballz> umm someone said they had fixed the flash in the swiftfox forums
[03:55] <matrix> dystopianray: when i mount it i just use mount /media/windows2 i don't get any output there. is there a verbose mode? or do you mean somewhere else?
[03:56] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: if its hdb, then it will be /dev/hdb1 if its the first partition on that drive
[03:56] <timothy_> thank you con
[03:56] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: you wil have to specify the filesystem type, so is it ntfs? fat32?
[03:56] <timothy_> ntfs
[03:57] <timothy_> i know i can only read from it
[03:57] <timothy_> i just forgot the string to get to it
[03:57] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: then type 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 or where ever you want it mounted
[03:57] <corveum> c0nv1ct: We develop a web based java application (unfortunately it is normalized on MS SQL currently, moving to open source soon) - so I need server to run and develop
[03:57] <mdtyke> Does anyone use KFTPGrabber.. excellent piece of software, but I noticed on kde-apps that it states "view/editing" of remote files
[03:57] <c0nv1ct> corveum: eww, ms sql
[03:58] <timothy_> ok so niether of those strings are working
[03:58] <mdtyke> Now, that's actually why I wanted it.. so I could do that (like Cute), but I cant actually see it in the drop down menu?  Anyone have any ideas where this feature is?
[03:58] <c0nv1ct> corveum: is vmware good enough to work with your sql apps?
[03:58] <timothy_> mount /media/
[03:58] <timothy_> is that correct?
[03:58] <c0nv1ct> corveum: that would probably be the best option, rather than runing the server OS natively
[03:58] <corveum> c0nv1ct: everything in Vietnam is MS because it costs $0.45 for any program you want
[03:59] <c0nv1ct> corveum: ahh yes, the good old asian conterfeit market :P
[03:59] <matrix> dystopianray: when i manually execute sudo mount -o umask=022 /dev/sda5 windows2 it work
[03:59] <c0nv1ct> corveum: i got some good rolex knock-offs from china
[04:00] <corveum> c0nv1ct: is it good enough... ask me that when I ever get it all working
[04:00] <rlj> in kubuntu edgy, is the system supposed to by default mount removable devices? cause mine does now, and i seem to remember it just giving me the kde notification dialog and *then* if i opened it in konq for example, it would automatically mount it upon access.. now, if i hit cancel in the dialog (for a cd for example) it mounts it after nevertheless...
[04:00] <c0nv1ct> corveum: if you need any "information" on vmware workstation, let me know
[04:00] <RadiantFire> rlj: it mounts it
[04:01] <rlj> i am having trouble burning cd's (burning suddenly stops and k3b fails, and i'm thinking it might be related if some automount util or hal or something messes with the drive in the middle of the burning)
[04:01] <firemonkeyballz> you kno it wasnt as hard to install stuff as I would on my DSL damn small linux
[04:01] <RadiantFire> rlj: I don't think so, because I've burned successfully
[04:01] <firemonkeyballz> install
[04:01] <RadiantFire> rlj: have you tried k3bsetup?
[04:01] <firemonkeyballz> buh
[04:01] <teufel> can someone tell me how to install a .bin file
[04:01] <firemonkeyballz> not shure what they did
[04:01] <teufel> more to the point planeshift
[04:01] <corveum> So no one has a favorite GUI based xhtml editor?
[04:01] <RadiantFire> I do
[04:01] <RadiantFire> Quanta :-)
[04:01] <rlj> RadiantFire: what happens if you insert a written cd and hit cancel in the kde dialog, does it still instantly mount it?
[04:02] <Xanith> Anyone possibly have a second to help me try to figure out why wine won't compile?
[04:02] <RadiantFire> !info kdewebdev
[04:02] <ubotu> kdewebdev: web development apps from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 60 kB
[04:02] <smile_> c0nv1ct: hi .. :-)
[04:02] <rlj> RadiantFire: yeah, set up the permissions in k3bsetup, the burning still failrd
[04:02] <RadiantFire> it mounts it automatically
[04:02] <corveum> RadiantFire: I'll check it out... does it have full unicode support?
[04:02] <RadiantFire> rlj: you can manually unmount it though
[04:02] <RadiantFire> corveum: I've never checked
[04:02] <rlj> RadiantFire: why does it mount it, i'm sure it didn't when i had dapper
[04:03] <RadiantFire> rlj: new version of KDE maybe, or a patch
[04:03] <rlj> RadiantFire: do you know what piece of software is responsible for mounting?
[04:03] <RadiantFire> rlj: you can still manually unmount it
[04:03] <RadiantFire> right click on the device and hit unmount
[04:03] <rlj> RadiantFire: is it in kde itself or in some automounter util?
[04:03] <RadiantFire> its KDE itself
[04:03] <smile_> c0nv1ct: when i open /lib/modules/2.15.26-386/volatiles .. i dont find nvidia.ko .. so i dont hav  the driver
[04:03] <teufel> need help installing planeshift i dont know how to handle .bin files yet
[04:03] <teufel> can someone help me please
[04:03] <rlj> RadiantFire: i know i can unmount manually, but that's not the point... i just can't understand why it would mount a cd/usb stick/whatever when i tell it not to (hit cancel)
[04:03] <RadiantFire> elj, I think it is the KDE Media Manager
[04:04] <corveum> RadiantFire: Hey, look I even have installed already
[04:04] <c0nv1ct> smile_: hmm, its not in mine either, but i have it installed
[04:04] <rlj> teufel: if the .bin-file is your downloaded archive, it's probably a shell script with lots of data appended. open up a terminal and type chmod +x FILENAME.bin and then ./FILENAME.bin
[04:04] <RadiantFire> oh well, I've got to bounce
[04:05] <rlj> teufel: which will set the executable flag, and subsequently launch the program
[04:05] <rlj> teufel: (script)
[04:05] <smile_> c0nv1ct: and ur compiz goes on ?
[04:05] <teufel> ok ill try
[04:05] <BluesKaj> !.bin
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <c0nv1ct> smile_: i use beryl, and it works fine
[04:05] <corveum> Ok, back to the big big question: anybody know how to install an alternative keyboard driver? The vietnamese system in Kubuntu doesn't work
[04:05] <timothy_> ok so i am now getting frustrated
[04:06] <smile_> c0nv1ct: ok ... i will try beryl .. is it better than Compiz ?
[04:06] <c0nv1ct> smile_: its newer, but less stable
[04:06] <smile_> c0nv1ct: less ? how ? what problem u have ?
[04:07] <c0nv1ct> smile_: i've only had it crash while using superkaramba
[04:07] <corveum> I've got this driver here: http://www.unikey.org, but it requires XWindows and haven't been able to get it to work
[04:07] <smile_> c0nv1ct: OK
[04:07] <smile_> c0nv1ct: THX
[04:07] <Xanith> how can i use the command line unrar to extract something?
[04:07] <Xanith> like what command would i use i can't figure this thing out lol
[04:08] <rlj> Xanith: unrar x archive.rar i think
[04:08] <rlj> Xanith: try unrar --help or something
[04:08] <rlj> Xanith: or man unrar
[04:08] <Xanith> rlj: i did, and i can't figure out what it means lol
[04:08] <teufel> chmod +x planeshift_cbv0.3.018.bin ./planeshift_cbv0.3.018.bin
[04:08] <teufel> chmod: cannot access `planeshift_cbv0.3.018.bin': No such file or directory
[04:08] <teufel> chmod: cannot access `./planeshift_cbv0.3.018.bin': No such file or directory
[04:08] <firemonkeyballz> oh about the flash sound thing in swiftfox and others... I had the same problem in windows
[04:08] <teufel> is that right
[04:08] <rlj> teufel: one thing at a time
[04:08] <firemonkeyballz> I could only get sound if I went directly to youtube
[04:08] <rlj> teufel: first chmod it: chmod +x planeshift_cbv0.3.018.bin
[04:09] <firemonkeyballz> since they were embeded on my myspace
[04:09] <teufel> ok
[04:09] <rlj> teufel: then run it: ./planeshift_cbv0.3.018.bin
[04:09] <rlj> teufel: and make sure you're in the same directory as the file in your terminal :)
[04:09] <firemonkeyballz> even tried re-installing flash
[04:09] <firemonkeyballz> didnt help
[04:09] <teufel> says invalid mode
[04:09] <moi> hi, any audio-buffs here?
[04:10] <BluesKaj> moi, some
[04:10] <teufel> my bad its says no such directory
[04:10] <Xanith> What does CRC failed mean?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> teufel, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2241472
[04:11] <moi> anyone know if alsa is still being developed? It seeems by the dates on their webpage and the lack of support for new cards that it all stoped as of 2005!
[04:11] <rlj> Xanith: it means the CRC = Cyclic Redundancy Check failed. basically, a checksum failed
[04:11] <rlj> Xanith: which usually means the archive is damaged
[04:11] <rlj> Xanith: however
[04:11] <firemonkeyballz> oh wolf yes I have to make symbolic links
[04:11] <rlj> Xanith: i think unrar has trouble with some newer version rar archives and complains about crc
[04:11] <Saille> re
[04:11] <BluesKaj> moi, my pc is less than a yr old and alsa supports my soundcard ok
[04:11] <Xanith> rlj: what's the solution to that?
[04:12] <rlj> Xanith: i don't like to recommend it, but the non-free rar archive can probably extract it
[04:12] <e1mer> hi all, do you know where does the config resides/updated when i open a file with `open with` and check on `remember to open this....`?
[04:12] <rlj> Xanith: so fire you your adept and search for rar
[04:12] <rlj> e1mer: if you open up kcontrol, (the kde control center), there is a file associations module under "KDE Components"
[04:13] <teufel> i cannot get it to install
[04:13] <moi> in their support list, they dont list my M-Audio Audiophile192, and the list date is 2005?
[04:13] <teufel> say no such file
[04:13] <rlj> e1mer: but i think kubuntu "system settings" never shows the configuration module, so you need to run kcontrol
[04:13] <Xanith> rlj: that was unrar non-free i was using
[04:13] <rlj> Xanith: hm, try rar instead of unrar
[04:13] <rlj> Xanith: do "man rar" or "rar --help"
[04:13] <rlj> Xanith: or similar
[04:13] <teufel> anyone here installed planeshift
[04:13] <rlj> Xanith: probably either "rar x blabla.rar" or "rar -x blabla.rar"
[04:14] <moi> BluesKaj;  in their support list, they dont list my M-Audio Audiophile192, and the list date is 2005?
[04:14] <teufel> downloaed the bin but cant figure out what to do with it
[04:14] <Xanith> i don't think i have rar installed, and adept finds a LOT of stuff on rar lol
[04:14] <rlj> moi: alsa is in-kernel as far as i know
[04:14] <Xanith> if i could get my repositories to work, i'd install wine and emulate WinRAR
[04:15] <Xanith> but i can't download wine because my repositories don't work
[04:15] <rlj> moi: so it might be that the webpage is obsolete (as alsa isn't a standalone package anymore). all development stuff is probably happening on the linux kernel mailinglists
[04:15] <rlj> teufel: doesn't the planeshift site say anything about the archive you downloaded?
[04:15] <rlj> teufel: what to do with it...
[04:15] <moi> hmm. interesting. I do have some support, I get a mixer, but all audio played is near totaly distorted, though I can hear some shape in the noise
[04:15] <teufel> i have been all over their site
[04:15] <e1mer> rlj: thanks
[04:16] <mdtyke> *sighs* I wish Skype would work on Linux
[04:16] <teufel> when i did what you said it told me there was no such file
[04:16] <teufel> i dont think i was doing it right
[04:16] <moi> it seems to be useing the audiophile 24/96 driver
[04:16] <rlj> Xanith: just scroll down to the stuff on "rar" actually beginning on "rar". and you can disable searching in package descriptions too
[04:16] <rlj> e1mer: you're welcome
[04:16] <rlj> e1mer: i think you'll find all you need in there
[04:16] <BluesKaj> moi, did you look for a linux driver on your M-Audio site ?
[04:16] <e1mer> rlj: i did :)
[04:16] <rlj> e1mer: but it's probably in one of the ini-style files in ~/.kde/share
[04:17] <wincide> hi, hola.
[04:17] <rlj> will be back in a little while
[04:17] <jake> guys anybody here using compiz?
[04:17] <rlj> wish you all luck
[04:17] <compilerwriter> I am trying to disable ssh password authentication and am missing something.  Help!
[04:17] <corveum> I am trying to install Linux_Kernel_Headers, but am being warned that the package conflicts with linux-libc-dev... any idea how to resolve this?
[04:17] <moi> BluesKaj; no, I'll do so now...
[04:17] <Martiini> Can anyone help me set up BERYL , please ... Ive tried several howtos on ubuntu forum ... but I cannot even connect to beryl repos
[04:18] <looris> hi, i have a rather odd problem, tried google, and found nothing: i have two users, with one of them the automounter for usb-storage works, for the other one it does not
[04:18] <wincide> since i 've upgraded from edgy to feisty, i cannot browse any site, http does not run, even http
[04:18] <Skaman_> hi guys i'm having a problem with amule 2.1.3
[04:18] <wincide> sorry, even http://localhost does not run
[04:18] <wincide> but i can do that with links2 and i cant navigate with lynx
[04:19] <Skaman_> if  itry to run amuleweb i get this error
[04:19] <Skaman_> amuleweb: error while loading shared libraries: libbfd-2.16.1.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:19] <moi> BluesKaj; no they only support MacOS and M$
[04:19] <jake> guys anybody can give me idea how to use compiz?
[04:19] <wincide> do someone know how to get http again
[04:19] <Xanith> should i upgrade to feisty fawn?
[04:19] <mdtyke> Im wondering that too Xanith lol
[04:19] <firemonkeyballz> xantith will this work?  sudo ln -s  /opt/swiftfox /usr/lib
[04:19] <mdtyke> How easy is it to 'upgrade' Linux.. or do you need to always do fresh installs
[04:19] <BluesKaj> moi, perhaps an open source driver on a nonfree site ?
[04:20] <jake> ive installedit but it doesnt appear on the program list
[04:20] <wincide> Xanith:  mdtyke have you read what happened to me by upgrading to feisty ?
[04:20] <wincide> :S
[04:20] <Jobbe_> hey everyone, I've got a wlan problem: I'm trying to use ipw3945/wpa_supplicant.now while iwconfig says the interface is associated to an access point, dhcp will fail (the dhcp server is definately not the problem - I'm using it for other computers and the ethernet interface, too). also, wpa_cli complains it's not able to connect to wpa_supplicant. starting wpa_supplicant doesn't give any output. ps aux|grep wpa won't return anythin
[04:20] <Martiini> uhhhh .... questions, questions, questions
[04:20] <mdtyke> Nope, but I figure you're about to tell me :)
[04:20] <ccc> mdtyke: very easy. just a simple edit in a config file and a single command in the terminal.
[04:21] <firemonkeyballz> xantith will this work?  sudo ln -s  /opt/swiftfox /usr/lib
[04:21] <wincide> now i had to reinstall kubuntu-desktop again, and dont know if it will run after that
[04:21] <mdtyke> lol
[04:21] <mdtyke> Here, I don't suppose anyone uses Skype do they?
[04:22] <Skaman_> i use it mdtyke
[04:22] <mdtyke> I have it, and I actually need to use it a lot.. but I find the sound is just dire.  Even to play its fancy little tunes in the Preferences come out terrible
[04:22] <mdtyke> I can chat on it fine, but I really need to get the voice working
[04:22] <firemonkeyballz> damn it time stamp
[04:22] <firemonkeyballz> error
[04:22] <firemonkeyballz> grrr
[04:22] <looris> well if nobodz has any clue, could you please address me on where to ask or search?
[04:22] <mdtyke> How does it work Ska?
[04:22] <Skaman_> works fine
[04:23] <Skaman_> but the voice is a bit metallic
[04:23] <Skaman_> little crappy
[04:23] <mdtyke> With me, it doesn't even work.  It's like h-----e-e--e--l----l---oo-o-o
[04:23] <mdtyke> its terrible lol
[04:23] <mdtyke> I have another little problem with my Linux.. Im a new mover from Windows
[04:24] <mdtyke> Does anyone have any idea how I can CPU throttle
[04:24] <Skaman_> i thuink that definitively needs to be develope the right way
[04:24] <Skaman_> :D
[04:24] <Xanith> is it possible my repositories aren't working because of edgy?
[04:24] <mdtyke> I'm running a Sony VAIO FS series
[04:24] <Xanith> i can't download wine, beryl or opera
[04:24] <mdtyke> But well, even on battery the CPU frequency is at 100%, and it just drains the battery.. Im talking a few percent a minute
[04:24] <BluesKaj> Xanith, have you checked your sources list ?
[04:24] <mdtyke> and I have a long-haul flight coming up soon, so I'd like to use it
[04:24] <Xanith> yes, I'm not that retarded.. lol. it gives me GPG errors
[04:25] <firemonkeyballz> freaking clock is off in kde
[04:25] <firemonkeyballz> grrr
[04:25] <Skaman_> mdtyke have you tried to find out something in ubuntuforums?
[04:25] <mdtyke> Mostly Kubuntuforums
[04:25] <mdtyke> but I've been going mad around those forums.. no-one ever replies :P
[04:25] <BluesKaj> Xanth, I was not assuming you are retarded ...gawd
[04:26] <Xanith> BluesKaj: lol i was just joking, lol
[04:26] <jake> guys please help, who knows how to run compiz?
[04:26] <looris> ...sigh
[04:26] <Skaman_> i thiink that h-----e-e--e--l----l---oo-o-o is the best result you can get by now
[04:26] <Skaman_> :(
[04:26] <BluesKaj> one sometimes has to state what is obvious to some and not to others
[04:26] <corveum> installing linux_kernel_headers? any one? Bueller?
[04:26] <BluesKaj> ok Xanith :)
[04:27] <Xanith> BluesKaj: so anyway, yea they are in my sources list, but it gives me GPG errors for some reason on them
[04:27] <BluesKaj> GPG ?
[04:27] <Xanith> BluesKaj: yea my thoughts exactly
[04:27] <firemonkeyballz> aaaah
[04:28] <firemonkeyballz> cant adjust the clock
[04:28] <firemonkeyballz> timestamp error
[04:28] <rotemj> i installed kubuntu 6.10 on AMD64 and been trying to config my nvidia gforce 6600 with no success
[04:28] <rotemj> any clue?
[04:28] <teufel> i have game its a bin file how do i install it
[04:28] <Xanith> oh crap i have to get in the shower, i'll figure this out later
[04:28] <Xanith> gotta go bye
[04:29] <morvok> rotemj: just a blank screen or device errors?
[04:31] <teufel> i have game its a bin file how do i install it
[04:31] <BluesKaj> teufel, try renameing the file extension to iso
[04:31] <teufel> ok
[04:31] <mdtyke> Argh, does anyone have an idea how to do this CPU scaling automatically in a laptop
[04:31] <mdtyke> I mustn'd have the right ACPI settings, but I've no idea how to change them
[04:32] <teufel> how do i install
[04:32] <teufel> daemon tools what
[04:32] <teufel> its planeshift
[04:32] <moi> BluesKaj; seems I need to update OSS, alsa has not caught up with the audiophile 192, though I cant find the command for updating OSS in this distro
[04:33] <teufel> hmmm
[04:33] <firemonkeyballz> ok fixed clock
[04:33] <firemonkeyballz> for good now
[04:33] <firemonkeyballz> I hope
[04:35] <rickympl> hello everyone, my user defined shorcut keys in the kde menu stopped working, like i assigned Win+B to open a certain program
[04:35] <rickympl> and it stopped opening
[04:36] <firemonkeyballz> ummm is it just me or is vista starting to emulate linxu?
[04:37] <BluesKaj> moi, maybe installing 'oss-compat' and 'oss preserve" might work for you
[04:38] <rickympl> does the fact that im using the "new" menu have anything to do with it?
[04:39] <moi> BluesKaj; what are they?
[04:39] <firemonkeyballz> anyone know how to fix this?
[04:39] <firemonkeyballz> /opt/swiftfox/swiftfox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:39] <firemonkeyballz> firemonkeyballz@fmbllz-inc:/opt/swiftfox$
[04:39] <compilerwriter> How would one search the entire file system for a file with a given text stream.  I am so embarrassed I can't think of the program to save my life right now.
[04:40] <BluesKaj> This package ensures that OSS support is provided in some way.  On Linux, it
[04:40] <BluesKaj> enables the ALSA compatibility modules.
[04:40] <wincide> hi all, my http protocol does not run since i 've upgraded to feisty. I cannot navigate now, so i can't get a way to make this run :(
[04:40] <moi> hmm
[04:40] <wincide> someone can help me ...
[04:40] <BluesKaj> !oss-compat
[04:40] <ubotu> oss-compat: OSS compatibility package. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0.4 (edgy), package size 2 kB, installed size 52 kB
[04:42] <BluesKaj> !fiesty | wincide
[04:42] <ubotu> wincide: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:42] <timothy_> where do i get Wine
[04:42] <moi> BluesKaj; I read a thread on 4Front Technologies forum, with another audiophile 192 user, same problem, was told to run ossupdate but he was using another distro, I tred the same command; did not work, looked for the oss folder and cant find it
[04:42] <BluesKaj> !wine
[04:42] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:43] <moi> it solved the problem in his case
[04:43] <Silveira_Neto> Hi people.
[04:44] <BluesKaj> oss-compat is in the repos, moi
[04:44] <rickympl> anyone?
[04:44] <kadir> heyaa
[04:44] <kadir> connecting from kubuntu on VmWare :P
[04:44] <c0nv1ct> kadir: what is the host OS?
[04:44] <kadir> Windows XP
[04:44] <kadir> :D
[04:45] <c0nv1ct> boooo
[04:45] <smile_> c0nv1ct: sorry for disturbing u again .. u asked me to change a file .. i forgot it ( to disable "nv" ) !!
[04:45] <c0nv1ct> i prefer my XP in vmware, opposite as you have it :P
[04:45] <kadir> hehe
[04:45] <c0nv1ct> smile_: oh, 1 sec
[04:45] <kadir> hey man i couldnt get along with Linux for so long
[04:45] <kadir> i guess i play too much games
[04:45] <kadir> thats why
[04:46] <c0nv1ct> smile_: its /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[04:46] <smile_> c0nv1ct: ok
[04:46] <smile_> c0nv1ct: thnk u
[04:47] <kadir> i'm trying to see if i can make use of one of the versions of linux i tried rdhat suse
[04:47] <timothy_> wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[04:47] <kadir> and some i cant remember but i couldnt like them
[04:47] <kadir> i mean yeah i have to admit this os is definitely rocksolid
[05:08] (chavo/#kubuntu) it should link to the library file
[05:08] (firemonkeyballz/#kubuntu) yes
[05:08] (timothy_/#kubuntu) The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[05:09] (kadir/#kubuntu) omg i have to work on this os for at least a week to get everything working stable :D (hey i'm just a newbie)
[05:09] <jean-benoit> !fr
[05:09] (ubotu/#kubuntu) Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:10] <timothy_> well since i cannot seem to get any help i will just go and reinstall xp
[05:10] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: have you tried asking a question
[05:10] <kadir> :D
[05:10] <timothy_> uhhhh yes several times
[05:10] <kadir> that was good :D
[05:10] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: and what is it
 The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[05:11] <c0nv1ct> thats not a question :)
[05:11] <timothy_> my adept package manager is failing can someone help me
[05:11] <timothy_> i asked that about 30 min agao
[05:11] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: what happens when you run apt-setup
[05:11] <miltos> hi ppl:-]
[05:11] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: and then running apt-get update, as it suggests
[05:11] <timothy_> i run it and nothing happens i get the same error
[05:12] <timothy_> i ran it in Konsol
[05:12] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: when you run apt-setup?
[05:12] <kadir> okay you got my attention. i'm going to install Kubuntu on oner of my harddrives and accept all updates (i think they were about 250Mbytes so i'll see you again after i do that)
[05:12] <kadir> thanks a lot friends!
[05:12] <kadir> see ya soon
[05:12] <corveum> when is use apt-get install linux-kernel-headers I receive the following message: linux-kernel-headers is a virtual package provided by:
[05:12] <corveum>   linux-libc-dev - if that is so how do I make my other installer see it?
[05:12] <miltos> my adept manager stopped at 99% waiting for headers...what can i do?
[05:13] <timothy_> when i run aptt setup it says command not found
[05:14] <timothy_> timothy@ubuntu:~$ apt-setup
[05:14] <timothy_> bash: apt-setup: command not found
[05:14] <timothy_> timothy@ubuntu:
[05:14] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: do a 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' and paste it to the pastebin
[05:15] <c0nv1ct> !pastebin
[05:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:15] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: to run apt-setup you have to use sudo
[05:15] <firemonkeyballz> http://www.aptana.com/trac/ticket/3461
[05:15] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: so 'sudo apt-setup'
[05:16] <mouser25> I just updated to feisty this morning and would like to run compiz but I apear to not be starting it properly because it loads compiz effects but I get no window decorator.  can someone point me to a good howtoo for running compiz under kde?
[05:16] <atidem> hello
[05:17] <corveum> c0nv1ct: thanks again
[05:17] <timothy_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9816/
[05:18] <c0nv1ct> mouser25: what kind of video card to you have?
[05:18] <mouser25> c0nv1ct: I have an nvidia and if I run glxinfo I have hardware rendering
[05:18] <c0nv1ct> mouser25: try here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359367&highlight=howto+compiz+feisty
[05:19] <mouser25> c0nv1ct: thanks :)
[05:19] <c0nv1ct> mouser25: thats how i got compiz setup on my laptop feisty install
[05:19] <animimotus> hi
[05:19] <mjunx> oh my god, kspread is not very good at calculations :(:(
[05:19] <mjunx> it takes like 5 minutes to calculate the first 30 fibonacci numbers
[05:19] <animimotus> someone can do a tif rotation in konqueror / digikam or gwenview ? I can not :\
[05:20] <firemonkeyballz> convlct the only problem I can see that may be it is that ls is showing the file as red
[05:20] <miltos> my adept manager stopped at 99% waiting for headers...what can i do?
[05:20] <firemonkeyballz> the problamatic file
[05:21] <mouser25> c0nv1ct: I belive that howto is for ubunto or gnome.  I dont have desktop effects under preferences
[05:22] <LaNCeloT_RW> hi dudes.. anyone knows the link for: FireFox + Flash + Java AMD64 help guide?
[05:22] <firemonkeyballz> !firefox
[05:22] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:22] <firemonkeyballz> !swiftfox
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <c0nv1ct> mouser25: try in kcontrol, under Style, then effects
[05:25] <firemonkeyballz> ummm swiftfox is the same as firefox right?
[05:25] <firemonkeyballz> so
[05:25] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: yes, just rebuilt
[05:25] <firemonkeyballz> !firefox | convlct
[05:25] <ubotu> convlct: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:26] <mouser25> c0nv1ct: well form what I can see there isn't much there I have Enable Gui Effects enabled
[05:26] <timothy_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9816/
[05:26] <firemonkeyballz> go to where it sais sybolic links
[05:26] <c0nv1ct> mouser25: have you tried running compiz after completeing that howto?
[05:26] <ferro> ....
[05:27] <mouser25> c0nv1ct: just go to the consol and run compiz?
[05:27] <c0nv1ct> mouser25: yeah
[05:27] <payam> hi
[05:27] <payam> How can i install a new Theme?
[05:27] <Jucato> !changethemes | payam
[05:27] <ubotu> payam: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[05:27] <mouser25> c0nv1ct: ya if I type compiz --replace then I have no window decoration
[05:28] <payam> i wana install it not change it
[05:28] <mouser25> c0nv1ct: But compiz is running and I have some of the Compiz effects but no window decorations
[05:28] <c0nv1ct> payam: in there is an option to import new themese
[05:28] <nosrednaekim> payam: followthat tutorial
[05:28] <chavo> mouser25, after that run kde-window-decorator --replace
[05:28] <Cobra_Bubbles> For some reason, I don't have sound
[05:28] <Cobra_Bubbles> When I use the LIVECD, I have sound, but after installing...nothing
[05:29] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: what shipset do you have?
[05:29] <nosrednaekim> *chipset
[05:29] <Cobra_Bubbles> hang on, let me get the info
[05:29] <miltos> Kmix doen't work with me either...i watched a movie an hour ago with sound and now nothing...help
[05:29] <mouser25> /msg c0nv1ct
[05:29] <mouser25> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170
[05:30] <mouser25>   Major opcode:  148
[05:30] <mouser25>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:30] <mouser25>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:30] <mouser25> Failed to open device
[05:30] <mouser25> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170
[05:30] <mouser25>   Major opcode:  148
[05:30] <mouser25>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:30] <mouser25>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:30] <mouser25> Failed to open device
[05:30] <mouser25> sorry
[05:30] <firemonkeyballz> grrr
[05:30] <firemonkeyballz> mommie
[05:31] <Cobra_Bubbles> card 0: IXP [ATI IXP] , device 0: ATI IXP AC97 [ATI IXP AC97]
[05:31] <payam> i cant install it
[05:31] <Cobra_Bubbles> card 1: Modem [ATI IXP Modem] , device 0: ATI IXP MC97 [ATI IXP MC97]
[05:31] <payam> How can i install a theme?
[05:31] <chavo> firemonkeyballz, please do ls -l /usr/lib/libgtk-x11* and paste it
[05:31] <Cobra_Bubbles> that's actually from aplay -l
[05:31] <firemonkeyballz> chavo it is in there
[05:32] <firemonkeyballz> just not like you think it is
[05:32] <chavo> payam, it depends themes are made of different parts
[05:32] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: what kind of computer is that?
[05:32] <nosrednaekim> latop?
[05:32] <payam> ,kha
[05:32] <chavo> firemonkeyballz, nvm
[05:32] <firemonkeyballz> its in the user directory
[05:32] <Cobra_Bubbles> Arima w730-k8x Laptop
[05:32] <payam> #kubuntu.se
[05:32] <firemonkeyballz> user lib
[05:32] <payam> #ubuntu.se
[05:32] <Cobra_Bubbles> also known as Gateway 7510GX
[05:33] <firemonkeyballz> how ever it has some permissions set to it
[05:33] <firemonkeyballz> that im not shure of
[05:33] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: hi again :D
[05:33] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: how the wifi?
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: ahh...so its got an ati chipset?
[05:33] <Cobra_Bubbles> corey wassup
[05:33] <chavo> which is why I asked you to paste the out put of ls -l, but w/e
[05:33] <chavo> nvm
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> like a x200?
[05:33] <Cobra_Bubbles> Sorry bout yesterday corey, I got summoned away from the computer do do some housework
[05:33] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: ah i see
[05:34] <Cobra_Bubbles> Oh the wifi is fantastic... I'm just trying to figure out why I have no sound
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: did you try headphones?
[05:34] <firemonkeyballz> nosrednaakim dude your sound fix crashed the kernal
[05:34] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: ah yes, that was one of my biggest problems until just recently
[05:34] <Cobra_Bubbles> No... I don't have any headphones
[05:34] <firemonkeyballz> had to fix the clock
[05:34] <rlj> is there a way to disable kde automount of removable media altogether? i find it really annoying. and btw, setting "do nothing" as default behavior in kcontrol's removable media settings did not help, it only prevented the "splash window" from appearing. so i'm starting to believe that part of kde isn't actually the culprit.
[05:34] <firemonkeyballz> after
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: it maybe that the wudio out is working....do you have anything you can plugg into it?
[05:35] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: pm
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: really?
[05:35] <Cobra_Bubbles> I have speakers...in the car... ><
[05:35] <firemonkeyballz> yea
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> duse... sorry..
[05:35] <firemonkeyballz> now since I fixed it
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> *dude
[05:36] <firemonkeyballz> aka reverting to original
[05:36] <firemonkeyballz> its saying that the mixer is not compatable
[05:36] <Cobra_Bubbles> BRB
[05:36] <firemonkeyballz> or somethign at shutdown
[05:36] <miltos> Kmix doen't work with me either...i watched a movie an hour ago with sound and now nothing...help
[05:36] <firemonkeyballz> have a alc883 codec that needs installing
[05:36] <firemonkeyballz> if thats what I need
[05:36] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: ok....how do you know that that crashed the kernel firemonkeyballz?
[05:37] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: it still does that to me.. don't worry about the mixer thing
[05:37] <nosrednaekim> alc883 is the realtek sound chipset
[05:37] <firemonkeyballz> just know that at boot the power controller failed
[05:38] <firemonkeyballz> and soemthing before
[05:38] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: the what failed?
[05:38] <miltos> i watched a movie an hour ago with sound and now nothing...help
[05:38] <firemonkeyballz> arg I wish I could log the boot and shutdown screens
[05:39] <payam> how can i install a new theme?
[05:40] <firemonkeyballz> nos the apic failed
[05:40] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: you can, type "dmesg" that'll give you the latest kernel messages
[05:40] <payam> how can i install a new theme?
[05:40] <firemonkeyballz> yea but mine doesnt log it at boot
[05:40] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: oh yeah.... thats a not a problem with the sound
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: yes it does...all systems do
[05:41] <Cobra_Bubbles> Nothing from speakers/hedphones
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz:  you can read all kernel meesages in /var/log/messages
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: ok thanx...
[05:41] <payam> does any one know how i can install a new theme?
[05:42] <chavo> payam, it depends, like I said themes can be made of different parts
[05:42] <firemonkeyballz> I think it may have been wiped
[05:42] <chavo> is it a style, a windeco or a theme which contains all of them?
[05:42] <firemonkeyballz> since Ive booted a few times
[05:42] <payam> I dont understans what you mean
[05:43] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: oh...right... it doesn't do it every time?
[05:43] <firemonkeyballz> buh the ACPI crashed
[05:43] <nosrednaekim> buh?
[05:43] <firemonkeyballz> and I had to reset the clock
[05:43] <chavo> payam, do you have a link to the them you want to install?
[05:44] <firemonkeyballz> and I rember that it was near that and related to ur fix
[05:44] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: when did this happen? right after you didmy fix?
[05:44] <firemonkeyballz> yea rebooted
[05:44] <firemonkeyballz> and bang
[05:44] <nosrednaekim> oh...k...
[05:44] <payam> yes i have
[05:44] <payam> i have  download it och have iton my desktop
[05:45] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: I understand....
[05:45] <Cobra_Bubbles> I don't get it
[05:45] <Cobra_Bubbles> This is very weird... I had sound on the LIVECD, gone on the full install
[05:45] <firemonkeyballz> I'd install the realtek driver but its 32 bits
[05:46] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: http://people.stfx.ca/x2005/x2005etf/Gateway7510GX_SUSE.html
[05:47] <nosrednaekim> it says to turn off the external amplifier in Kmix
[05:47] <Cobra_Bubbles> Thanks
[05:48] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/acer.html  and look for your model #
[05:48] <szaloony> hi
[05:48] <nosrednaekim> hello
[05:48] <ubuntu__> hi
[05:49] <ubuntu__> hillooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[05:49] <szaloony> I have a liitle problem and Id love a help :d
[05:49] <coreymon77> !ask
[05:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:49] <Cobra_Bubbles> nothing
[05:49] <ubuntu__> kanenas ellhnas
[05:49] <szaloony> im trying to install xgl on kubuntu of course
[05:49] <c0nv1ct> szaloony: do you have a nvidia card?
[05:49] <szaloony> howto says to write cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/xorg login in terminal
[05:50] <szaloony> yes i have
[05:50] <ubuntu__> ELLADA
[05:50] <payam> help
[05:50] <payam> help
[05:50] <c0nv1ct> szaloony: then why do you want to use XGL? are you on Edgy?
[05:50] <szaloony> yes I am
[05:50] <c0nv1ct> szaloony: then use AIGLX, much easier, and much faster
[05:50] <c0nv1ct> szaloony: and its built in
[05:50] <c0nv1ct> !AIGLX
[05:51] <szaloony> really?
[05:51] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-effects for support.
[05:51] <szaloony> and same effects?
[05:51] <Dekans> c0nv1ct: no need to aiglx with nvidia
[05:51] <Dekans> its a loss of performances
[05:51] <szaloony> aiglx
[05:52] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: both reports on linux-laptops say there is n problem with the sound...one is from dapper drake
[05:52] <Cobra_Bubbles> I'm using Edgy
[05:52] <c0nv1ct> Dekans: AIGLX is built into the 97xx drivers and xorg
[05:52] <nosrednaekim> szaloony: AIGLX is far easier and gives just as good of effects
[05:52] <c0nv1ct> szaloony: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851 for a howto
[05:53] <firemonkeyballz> to tell  you the truth actually convlct it looks like an escape problem in the drivers loop structure
[05:53] <payam> i found iut
[05:53] <c0nv1ct> Dekans: i'm not sure i understand you, since aiglx is built in
[05:53] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: did you move all mixer channels up and make sure none of them are muted?
[05:53] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: are you still trying to compile swiftfox?
[05:53] <Dekans> c0nv1ct: beryl needs the tfp support in order to run
[05:54] <nosrednaekim> Dekans: you're not making any sense
[05:54] <Dekans> nvidia 96xx drivers support this instruction
[05:54] <firemonkeyballz>  no
[05:54] <Cobra_Bubbles> yeah
[05:54] <szaloony> hm, but Ive almost installed xgl
[05:54] <firemonkeyballz> im talking about the sound driver
[05:54] <firemonkeyballz> that alas is using
[05:54] <c0nv1ct> szaloony: trust me, dont do xgl
[05:55] <firemonkeyballz> I gave up on swiftfox for the moment'
[05:55] <c0nv1ct> szaloony: it uses way more resources, and direct rendering wont work
[05:55] <Dekans> c0nv1ct: if you lanch Xgl instead of Xorg, it's quite fast
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz:try my patch again , I don't think its what crashed your computer....
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> APIC is unrelated to sound
[05:56] <c0nv1ct> Dekans: thats how i had it setup
[05:56] <Cobra_Bubbles> V>_<V I'm gonna throw this thing against a wall until it bleeds Silicon
[05:56] <c0nv1ct> Dekans: but will it support direct rendering?
[05:56] <Dekans> yes, I ran compiz in tis way last year
[05:56] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: try "dmes" and see if there is anything relating to sound
[05:56] <Dekans> this*
[05:56] <nosrednaekim> *gmesg
[05:57] <c0nv1ct> last year? o.O
[05:57] <nosrednaekim> *dmesg sorry
[05:57] <chavo> firemonkeyballz, do you have firefox installed?
[05:57] <firemonkeyballz> no
[05:57] <firemonkeyballz> cant
[05:57] <Dekans> compiz has been opend in january 2006
[05:57] <lontra> i agree that aiglx is better to use than xgl
[05:57] <c0nv1ct> yeah, but things have changed in a year
[05:57] <firemonkeyballz> swiftfox and firefox and deerpark wont install
[05:57] <Dekans> yes but the engine is the same
[05:57] <Cobra_Bubbles> command not found
[05:57] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: what CPU do you have
[05:58] <c0nv1ct> Dekans: but the drivers arent
[05:58] <firemonkeyballz> amd turion
[05:58] <Dekans> c0nv1ct: it is the interest of Xgl
[05:59] <c0nv1ct> what is?
[05:59] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: what swiftfox version are you trying to install?
[05:59] <Dekans> no need to tfp or aiglx support
[05:59] <firemonkeyballz> specifically the mk36
[05:59] <Dekans> any 3D acceleretion is enough
[05:59] <szaloony> ok, Ill try aixgl, thanks for help :)
[05:59] <firemonkeyballz> 2.0
[05:59] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: sorry "dmesg"
[05:59] <Dekans> szaloony: you have a nvidia ?
[05:59] <firemonkeyballz> 2.0 swiftfox
[06:00] <szaloony> yeah
[06:00] <lontra> why not just use konqueror?
[06:00] <c0nv1ct> Dekans: the 97xx drivers allow you to run compiz/beryl directly on X, without any need for an external XGL or AIGLX
[06:00] <Dekans> szaloony: with feisty you will have a driver than directly supports beryl, if you are interested in it
[06:00] <Cobra_Bubbles> Holy shit, should I pastebin these results?
[06:00] <intelikey> lontra good question.  unfortunatly it's moot
[06:00] <Dekans> c0nv1ct: yes exactly
[06:00] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: yeah
[06:01] <Dekans> like the 96xx
[06:01] <lontra> intelikey: i use konqueror cause it's much faster and integrates better than firefox
[06:01] <c0nv1ct> well basically its the 9xxx
[06:01] <nosrednaekim> that would REALLY flood the channell..lol
[06:01] <Dekans> yes
[06:01] <lontra> i can open konqueror in under a second...firefox takes up to 10 to open
[06:01] <intelikey> lontra i don't use ff cause it's ugly.    meeh.
[06:01] <lontra> he he
[06:02] <lontra> brb
[06:02] <firemonkeyballz> nosrednaekim http://pastebin.ca/390704
[06:02] <szaloony> ill try on edgy first
[06:02] <firemonkeyballz> looks like a loop error to me
[06:03] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: BRB
[06:04] <intelikey> firemonkeyballz nice runaway  :)
[06:04] <szaloony> thanks once again, bye :)
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> I kno
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> and its not even my doing
[06:05] <Cobra_Bubbles> Awww he lefted
[06:05] <intelikey> file a bug
[06:05] <intelikey> !bug
[06:05] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[06:08] <compilerwriter> away
[06:08] <ComputerHermit> hello
[06:08] <intelikey> !away | compilerwriter
[06:08] <ubotu> compilerwriter: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[06:08] <ComputerHermit> I had a problem with adept lastnight
[06:08] <swapspace> !guidelines
[06:08] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:09] <ComputerHermit> or adept manger
[06:09] <ComputerHermit> anyone have a problem it unstalling your programes you dont want unstalled
[06:09] <fsafasgdsgasd> I need users for my IRC server, any volunteeers :) ?
[06:09] <c0nv1ct> fsafasgdsgasd: does it have porn?
[06:10] <timster> Good question
[06:10] <ComputerHermit> yea
[06:10] <intelikey> ComputerHermit dependancies.
[06:10] <bxnp> what kind of irc server do you have fsafasgdsgasd
[06:10] <intelikey> t ^
[06:10] <c0nv1ct> i go where the boobs are
[06:10] <ComputerHermit> what do you mean dependanices
[06:10] <intelikey> typo
[06:11] <ComputerHermit> intel
[06:11] <ComputerHermit> so my adpet wasent config right?
[06:11] <intelikey> i mean when something depends on something that conflicts with something installed  either you can't install or the conflicting package has to go.
[06:11] <ComputerHermit> yes but firestarter
[06:12] <ComputerHermit> and kde
[06:12] <ComputerHermit> ect..
[06:12] <intelikey> what did you try to install ?
[06:12] <ComputerHermit> I wanted to remove shareing because I dont use folder shareing
[06:13] <firemonkeyballz> reported
[06:13] <ComputerHermit> what does Xirc have to do with folder shareing and Iam not a noob
[06:13] <ComputerHermit> so
[06:13] <ComputerHermit> I just never seen it act up like that it was a nightmare
[06:13] <ComputerHermit> fixeing it all manual
[06:13] <Svetlio> e6 i tva e registrirano :D
[06:14] <ComputerHermit> so I shit caned it
[06:14] <ComputerHermit> :-)
[06:14] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: you still around?
[06:15] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: those are the EXACT errors I was getting
[06:16] <ComputerHermit> I just though about the noob's who go in their and lose everything ad then post all over the net how do I do this and this happend
[06:16] <firemonkeyballz> yes but
[06:16] <firemonkeyballz> it looks more like a runaway loop
[06:17] <intelikey> ComputerHermit again  dependencies
[06:17] <intelikey> ComputerHermit uninstall bash and see what happens...
[06:18] <ComputerHermit> nice doing as we speak
[06:18] <lupul> hi. can anyone tell me pls how to change my boot screen?
[06:18] <lupul> in kubuntu edgy
[06:18] <firemonkeyballz> and besides... the differance between me and you I have sound but I dont have midi and synth
[06:18] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: neither do I....
[06:18] <nosrednaekim> do you have sound out your speakers?
[06:18] <intelikey> !usplash
[06:18] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[06:18] <firemonkeyballz> yes
[06:19] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: oh..ok... then whats the problem?
[06:19] <intelikey> lupul see ubotu  ^
[06:19] <ComputerHermit> you know what bash was picked buy adept to unstall lastnight
[06:19] <Cobra_Bubbles> nos: I have that Pastebin link for you
[06:19] <Cobra_Bubbles> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9827/
[06:19] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: ok...i'll look at it..
[06:19] <firemonkeyballz> and I looked up what your thing does is basically to tell the kernal to ignore the invalid dep range messages
[06:20] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: in addition, It also switches off HD sound(i.e. spidf
[06:20] <firemonkeyballz> but that has been fixed in the 32 bit version at realtek
[06:22] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: really? I hadn't heard that... good news
[06:22] <intelikey> not a noob  but he doesn't understand package dependencies    oh well.
[06:22] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: I don't see any real problem in there...
[06:23] <firemonkeyballz> if you mean me
[06:23] <firemonkeyballz> I catch on fast
[06:23] <lupul> ok thanks
[06:23] <firemonkeyballz> I may be "new" to linux
[06:23] <firemonkeyballz> but I know a snake in the grass when I see one
[06:23] <intelikey> i didn't mean you.
[06:24] <Cobra_Bubbles> I was afraid of that... It's annoying to have no sound whatsoever..
[06:24] <firemonkeyballz> as to meaning
[06:24] <firemonkeyballz> when there is a problem
[06:24] <firemonkeyballz> you dont ignore it
[06:26] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: I understand....:-P
[06:26] <Cobra_Bubbles> Oh shit...
[06:26] <Cobra_Bubbles> That HURT
[06:26] <Cobra_Bubbles> I gave up and closed Amarok and it gave me an error sound
[06:27] <Cobra_Bubbles> So... I am getting system sounds, but can't play mp3's...
[06:27] <Innosense> Can anyone help me install something through the command line?
[06:28] <Innosense> or direct me to a list of comman line commands and how they work?
[06:28] <intelikey> !mp3 | Innosense
[06:28] <ubotu> Innosense: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:28] <intelikey> ooops
[06:28] <intelikey> !cli | Innosense
[06:28] <ubotu> Innosense: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:28] <intelikey> now .    sudo apt-get install blah
[06:29] <intelikey> now .    sudo apt-get remove blah
[06:29] <intelikey> any more questions?
[06:30] <Innosense> I guess so...
[06:30] <Filthpig> hi
[06:30] <Innosense> I want to install flash, and it gave me too options a tar.gz and a rpm
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: ahh....
[06:31] <intelikey> !rpm
[06:31] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:31] <Filthpig> use tar
[06:31] <Innosense> niether of them seem to work when I do the sudo apt-get install
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> so problem with your sound card then
[06:31] <intelikey> !flash | Innosense
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> *no problem
[06:31] <ubotu> Innosense: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:31] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[06:31] <Cobra_Bubbles> it seems this way
[06:31] <Filthpig> my brother has a problem with his computer
[06:31] <Cobra_Bubbles> So what I need... Is to find out why I am getting system sounds, but no multimedia sounds
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: mp3 support is easy
[06:32] <Cobra_Bubbles> hrm?
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> !libxine-extracodecs | Cobra_Bubbles
[06:32] <ubotu> cobra_bubbles: libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> ^^^get that
[06:32] <Innosense> I'm still really confused...I'm sorry
[06:33] <Cobra_Bubbles> I already have that installed
[06:33] <Innosense> I got the .tar.gz an I extracted it...but I don't know what to do with the files inside
[06:33] <sergio> what is it?
[06:33] <sergio> I'm new on linux
[06:34] <Innosense> flash
[06:34] <sergio> mmh?
[06:34] <sergio> i'm using kubuntu version
[06:34] <Innosense> Same here
[06:34] <intelikey> no problem. Innosense what the bot means is that flash is in the ubuntu repos  and you don't need to use a source package.   you can install it via the package manager,  provided you enable the "backports" repos
[06:34] <Bi||aBong> how i can enable the direct rendering of ati drivers?
[06:34] <sergio> and in particular the Konversation programme
[06:35] <Filthpig> all of a sudden his windows xp registry is bleeped up, so he can't start his computer. Then his Linuxusing little brother (me) tells him to start his system with the kubuntu livecd I left at his place last week. Now I need some answers:
[06:35] <Innosense> oh!
[06:35] <Innosense> okay, one sec
[06:35] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: are you using the xine engine in amarok?
[06:36] <intelikey> !ati | Bi||aBong
[06:36] <ubotu> Bi||aBong: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:36] <Filthpig> Does the Kubuntu 7.04 herd 4 have write support for ntfs disks?
[06:36] <sergio> how can i read a dvd with kaffeine or other programmes?
[06:36] <nosrednaekim> Filthpig: not by default I don't think....
[06:36] <nosrednaekim> !dvdcss | sergio
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdcss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <nosrednaekim> !dvd | sergio
[06:37] <ubotu> sergio: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:37] <intelikey> Filthpig you mean built-in support ?    all ubuntu releases have support via ntfs3-g
[06:37] <lontra> !libdvdcss
[06:37] <intelikey> !ntfs | Filthpig
[06:37] <ubotu> Filthpig: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:37] <foob> try using Xine
[06:37] <Filthpig> ah, thanks
[06:38] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: but by default?
[06:38] <Tonren> How do I change Katapult's options?
[06:38] <Cobra_Bubbles> yeah I am
[06:38] <ollip> HI
[06:38] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: can you play music with any other program? try popping in an audio CD for instance
[06:38] <intelikey> nosrednaekim that's what i was asking, if that was the question or just installable support.
[06:38] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: ahh ok..
[06:38] <Innosense> Intelikey should I add the edgy-backports called deb and deb-src?
[06:39] <miltos> kimix doesn't work anymore...i watched a movie an  hour ago...and now after rebooting nothing...pls help
[06:39] <foob> almost all the players work but you need to make sure you have all the proper codecs
[06:39] <Cobra_Bubbles> No... No music in Amarok no sound for movies in Kaffeine no sound in gtkpod nor XMMS
[06:39] <ollip> hi bin neu hier und brauche drinkend kubuntu support
[06:39] <intelikey> nosrednaekim i'm not sure if ntfs-3g will be defaultly installed in the new release or not...
[06:39] <intelikey> Innosense deb
[06:40] <Innosense> what does deb and deb-src stand for?
[06:40] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: read support will be... its needed by the upgrade manager( oh is 3g write support?)
[06:40] <OsMoSi> Sera a tutti
[06:40] <intelikey> Innosense deb-src means the source code in .deb format so you can install the source and recompile it to your liking.    most people don't use deb-src repos
[06:40] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: but system sound does work? (other than the simple beep)
[06:41] <intelikey> nosrednaekim read support was in hoary breezy dapper and edgy.  i'm not sure if warty had it or not.
[06:41] <Tonren> Anyone?  Katapult optoins?
[06:41] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: ahh ok..... thanks
[06:42] <intelikey> nosrednaekim or i should say ro=read-only support
[06:42] <Cobra_Bubbles> I get that error sound when I close something yeah
[06:43] <Innosense> intelikey: yeah I'm not a not there yet.  now that I've added the deb how do I find the newest flash, there are lots of flash related things when I search, which one is the right one?
[06:43] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: k...
[06:43] <nosrednaekim> do you hear kopete sounds?
[06:44] <Cobra_Bubbles> Kopete? I'm using GAIM...
[06:44] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: ok... do you hear sounds from that?
[06:44] <nosrednaekim> Kopete is Kde's equivalent of GAIM
[06:45] <intelikey> Innosense that i don't know.  depends on what you want it to do and what exactly is avalable, best to read the descriptions and decide what you want.    also asking someone that uses flash might help with a quick start.
[06:45] <animimotus> how to purge krita please ? by this way I can not http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9835/
[06:45] <Cobra_Bubbles> No... I her no sounds
[06:45] <Cobra_Bubbles> I wasn't aware GAIM was making any
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: yeh GAIM makes sounds
[06:46] <Innosense> I'm no fan of propriatary, but how do you deal with content you'd want to watch, say on youtube or something like that?
[06:46] <miltos> kimix doesn't work anymore...i watched a movie an  hour ago...and now after rebooting nothing...pls help
[06:47] <Innosense> Do you go without, or do you find a workaround?
[06:47] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: go into kcontrol -> sounds and multimedia-> sound system-> test sound
[06:47] <wsjunior> last time i asked for ubuntu cds from shipit i received also some adhesives. is there kubuntu adhesives like those avaliable for purchasing somewhere?
[06:47] <nosrednaekim> adhesives?
[06:47] <wsjunior> ya
[06:47] <nosrednaekim> like the little windows stickers that come with computers?
[06:47] <Cobra_Bubbles> OW
[06:47] <wsjunior> no
[06:47] <Cobra_Bubbles> Yeah that worked...
[06:48] <Innosense>                                              Anyone here use flash coupled with firefox?
[06:48] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: yes
[06:48] <nosrednaekim> you have to DL from the macromedia site
[06:48] <Innosense> Yes, but I couldn't figure out how to run it from the command line
[06:48] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: go into the hardware tab
[06:48] <intelikey> Innosense youtube ?     hehhe  that's how.
[06:49] <Cobra_Bubbles> It says "Open Sound System"
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: you don't, you put it into a directory within .mozzilla
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: change that to ALSA
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> or autodetect
[06:49] <Innosense> which one, the tar.gz or the rpm?
[06:49] <wsjunior> nosrednaekim: like this -> http://www.cafepress.com/cp/moredetails.aspx?showBleed=false&ProductNo=26023535&pr=F
[06:50] <Tonren> How do I change Katapult's options?!
[06:50] <intelikey> Innosense not an .rpm
[06:50] <wsjunior> nosrednaekim: i was wondering if there is some lubuntu sticker like that one avaliable for purchasing
[06:50] <Cobra_Bubbles> Changed to ALSA and applied...test works
[06:50] <nosrednaekim> check amarok.etc
[06:50] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: you got sound working?
[06:51] <nosrednaekim> wsjunior: I am not aware of any....I would like one though
[06:51] <miltos> any help with my kmix ...no sound on my kubuntu...pls help
[06:51] <Innosense> nosrednaekim how do I find the mozilla directory?
[06:51] <Cobra_Bubbles> VICTOLY!
[06:51] <wsjunior> there is a lot of ubuntu related productes there (http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop) but nothing kubuntu related
[06:51] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: /home/<youruser>/.mozzilla
[06:52] <Cobra_Bubbles> It is playing a stream off of Gaming.FM now
[06:52] <intelikey> rpm = redhat package management     there are several rpm based distros, ubuntu is not one of them.   dpkg = the debian package manager   .deb = a debian package    there are several deb based distros    ubuntu is one of them.
[06:52] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: sorry /home/<youruser./.mozilla
[06:52] <animimotus> how to purge krita please ? by this way I can not http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9835/ and in #koffice they said that #kubuntu can help me to understand this kubuntu's relative problem
[06:53] <Innosense> in konqueror I Went into my home
[06:53] <Innosense> then my name
[06:53] <Cobra_Bubbles> and... Kaffeine has sound
[06:53] <Innosense> and then all I see see
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: actually /home/<youruser>/.mozilla/plugins
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> .* files are hidden
[06:53] <intelikey> nosrednaekim you can replace /home/<youruser>   with  the tild char   ~
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: yeah that would simplify things
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: GREAT!!
[06:53] <Innosense> wow okay that worked
[06:54] <nosrednaekim> you in .mozilla/plugins?
[06:54] <Cobra_Bubbles> now... To watch the Rock Chewer sing "Born To be Wild" in The Neverending Story III
[06:54] <intelikey> in bash and for the most part linux in general the tild is expanded to the output of $HOME     test# echo $HOME ;echo ~
[06:55] <Innosense> okay
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: everything working now?
[06:55] <Innosense> I put the plugin into that folder
[06:55] <Innosense> now...
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> the .so?
[06:55] <intelikey> there are some gui exceptions to that ^  things that protect special chars in paths and filenames...
[06:55] <Innosense> it still doesn't work....
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: the .so? or the tar.gz?
[06:56] <intelikey> !tar
[06:56] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:56] <Innosense> everything inside the tar.gz
[06:56] <Innosense> so the .so
[06:56] <Innosense> and the other ones too
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: did you restart firefox?
[06:56] <Innosense> yeah...
[06:56] <Cobra_Bubbles> y7up
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: cool
[06:57] <Cobra_Bubbles> What command do you use to adjust your desktop resolution?
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: OSS is an antiquidated sound system,motly everything these days uses alsa
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: whats it at now>
[06:57] <Cobra_Bubbles> gotcha nos
[06:57] <Innosense> I'll trestarted the entire compy and see what happends
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: thats not neccesary
[06:57] <Cobra_Bubbles> I'm pretty sure it's 1024x768x32... My system is capable of 1240x1024x32
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> 1240x 1024?thats an odd res
[06:58] <Innosense> I tried closing all firefoxs twice and nothign happend...
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> you sure its not 1280x 800?
[06:58] <Cobra_Bubbles> nos yeah it is. That's what Windows would max at
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> or 1280x1024
[06:58] <Cobra_Bubbles> err, yeah 1280x800
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> ok...lol
[06:59] <Cobra_Bubbles> Anyways, what do I use to adjust my resolution?
[06:59] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: time for some xorg editing
[06:59] <Cobra_Bubbles> yay!
[06:59] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:59] <Cobra_Bubbles> right
[07:00] <Cobra_Bubbles> "short" ?
[07:00] <Cobra_Bubbles> It's a widescreen HDTV crammed into a laptop chassis
[07:00] <intelikey> they call it "wide" to get you to buy it...
[07:00] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: wide is better
[07:00] <intelikey> it's really "short"  not wide.
[07:01] <nosrednaekim> true
[07:01] <Cobra_Bubbles> meh
[07:01] <nosrednaekim> what?
[07:01] <Innosense> They do say Wider is better, but I've always wondred about those screens...somethings off
[07:02] <chavo> the only thing a widescreen is good for is movies
[07:02] <Cobra_Bubbles> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9840/
[07:02] <intelikey> wider would be better if they would make it taller to match  lol   :)
[07:02] <Cobra_Bubbles> Widescreen is nice.
[07:02] <chavo> and thats not a necessity if you're sitting close to your screen anyway
[07:02] <intelikey> for what Cobra_Bubbles ?
[07:03] <Cobra_Bubbles> The screens are wider so you can watch movies in their original intended Aspect ratio without having those annoying black bars
[07:03] <miltos> no sound on my kubuntu system...and it seems strange as i watched a movie an hour ago....help!
[07:03] <intelikey> Cobra_Bubbles lol
[07:03] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: ummm are SURE it's not at 1280x800?
[07:03] <Innosense> It still tells me "you either have javascript turned off or an old version of macromedia's falsh player. get the new lastest flash player"  But Ihave the one I just downloaded, and javascript is on...
[07:04] <intelikey> you have a movie that is too short for he screen  so the answer is cut off part of the screen so the movie fits   lol
[07:04] <nosrednaekim> becuase thats the only modeline
[07:04] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: but that runins HD movies!1
[07:04] <Cobra_Bubbles> I'm looking at that nos, it looks like I was wrong...
[07:04] <nosrednaekim> does it look bad or something?
[07:04] <intelikey> nosrednaekim you missed my point.
[07:04] <Cobra_Bubbles> Guys, I think with a minimum of fuss, we have now a fully-converted Windows-to-Kubuntu user!!!
[07:04] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: champagne?
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> lets toast the bot
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[07:05] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:05] <Cobra_Bubbles> lol
[07:05] <Cobra_Bubbles> cute
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> lol
[07:05] <Cobra_Bubbles> !botsnack
[07:05] <Cobra_Bubbles> awww
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> he's ful
[07:05] <intelikey> !thanks | Cobra_Bubbles
[07:05] <ubotu> Cobra_Bubbles: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[07:05] <Cobra_Bubbles> muwahahahaha
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> haha
[07:06] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: hehe? Beryl?
[07:06] <nosrednaekim> :-P
[07:06] <Cobra_Bubbles> I'm just....going to avoid beryl
[07:06] <Cobra_Bubbles> I hear she's flashy but tempermental
[07:06] <Cobra_Bubbles> The KDE environment seems to work rather nicely for me
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: yeah...true true
[07:07] <Cobra_Bubbles> hrm
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> expecially with ATI
[07:07] <intelikey> bb'z ok
[07:07] <makuseru> how do i view a floppy in kubuntu?
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> without nvidia its quite stable
[07:07] <Cobra_Bubbles> I should make an image of my setup the way it is...
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: haha you can...
[07:07] <BluesKaj> Cobra_Bubbles, beryl is eye candy , doesn't work well on ATI cards but seems ok on nVidia
[07:08] <intelikey> makuseru you mount it.
[07:08] <intelikey> !mount
[07:08] <makuseru> how?
[07:08] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:08] <intelikey> makuseru   sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media
[07:08] <makuseru> oh
[07:08] <makuseru> thanks
[07:08] <BluesKaj> GParted is a live cd , works better than qparted
[07:09] <intelikey> no gparted is an application frontend to parted
[07:09] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: " tar xvzf / /copy" it'll be a big file though;)
[07:09] <Cobra_Bubbles> Well since I am using an ATI card... A really nice one, even... I will stick with KDE
[07:09] <intelikey> there is a "gparted live CD"  meaning a live CD that boots to a running gparted
[07:09] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: don't do that above command unless you are serious
[07:10] <Cobra_Bubbles> Big files are okay. I've got a 100-GB HDD and a DVD-R drive
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: yeah.
[07:10] <BluesKaj> well Cobra_Bubbles , maybe beryl will work for you , who knows ? :)
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: do that command then, it'll totally back up your whole installation
[07:10] <Cobra_Bubbles> BluesKaj: While I -AM- a Tinkerer, I also subscribe to "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> and don't break anything you can't fix ;)
[07:10] <Cobra_Bubbles> nos: All settings, drivers and everything?
[07:10] <BluesKaj> right , Cobra_Bubbles , agreed :)
[07:11] <Cobra_Bubbles> nos is wise
[07:11] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: yes
[07:11] <Cobra_Bubbles> tar: /: Cannot read: Is a directory   Awww...
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> ahh Cobra_Bubbles my bad
[07:12] <intelikey> or in other words.  default means a starting point on the way to how it should be.
[07:13] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: "tar cvzf / copy.tar.gz"
[07:13] <intelikey> nosrednaekim nope
[07:13] <nosrednaekim> wait...don't run that
[07:13] <intelikey> can't creat /
[07:13] <nosrednaekim> haha... oh wow...
[07:13] <gentoofan23> tar cvzf copy.tar.gz /
[07:13] <nosrednaekim> thank you gentoofam
[07:13] <Cobra_Bubbles> good thing I didn't
[07:14] <nosrednaekim> run gentoo fans
[07:14] <nosrednaekim> *fan's
[07:14] <Innosense> what does the command 'su' do in the commandline?
[07:14] <gentoofan23> Logs you into a root shell
[07:14] <intelikey> switch user
[07:15] <gentoofan23> "su <USERNAME>"
[07:15] <intelikey> gentoofan23 defaults to root if no user is specified  but it's   switch user
[07:15] <gentoofan23> correct
[07:15] <Innosense> how do you create a folder in the command line?
[07:15] <gentoofan23> but if you run only "su" it gives you a root shell
[07:15] <gentoofan23> "mkdir <FOLDERNAME>"
[07:16] <Innosense> does the foldername have to be in < > or did you just do that?
[07:16] <intelikey> gentoofan23 correct.  but one should probably never run   just su   su -     but not su
[07:16] <gentoofan23> no, you never have the "<>"
[07:16] <gentoofan23> mkdir foo
[07:17] <Innosense> got it