[07:25] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:25] <jtmoney> yeah
[07:25] <jtmoney> not working?
[07:25] <mongey> huh
[07:25] <jtmoney> mongey: follow that guide
[07:25] <KDEfanboy> what's a good desktop video capturing program? like xvidcap, but better
[07:26] <mongey> ah
[07:26] <mongey> i thought it was a drive problem not codec
[07:27] <roc> does anyone know how to get xgl working on kubuntu?
[07:28] <roc> answer meeee you maggots...
[07:28] <keybdfailure> i have gnome and kde both installed, in gnome my keyboard is properly set but not in kde. what is the config file that is causing such a nuisance in kde ?
[07:28] <keybdfailure> anyone can help me ?
[07:29] <dusty> Shuriken-, hey man, i plugged the agp card in and now the agp card/monitor work but the onboard one doesn't even come on as if no power gets to it.
[07:30] <sledge> !help fglrx
[07:30] <keybdfailure> !help keyboard layout
[07:31] <sledge> fglrx initializes fine, but glxinfo says it's still using mesa gl.
[07:31] <sledge> known issue/bug?
[07:31] <cius> why is it that when I try downloading a .deb from kde-look.org it automatically opens it with a text editor?
[07:31] <_anilk> on kubutu 6.06 LTS - app icons are not being picked properly
[07:32] <Shuriken-> dusty: did you check my PMs ?
[07:32] <roc> |:.... does anyone know how to enable xgl on kubuntu? feel free to say no if you don't know...
[07:33] <jpatrick> !xgl
[07:33] <ubotu> [xgl]  "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[07:33] <erov> cius.. right click a .deb file and check what it is set to open with.. you can remove / change order of apps .. or check what your browser has set for it to do with .deb files
[07:33] <cius> erov, my browser says its set to open them with ark, not kate
[07:34] <erov> strange..
[07:34] <cius> I would prefer it simly ask me if I want to save a file rather than automatically downloading it and opening it
[07:34] <chavo> you can't right click the links on kde-look, they aren' direct links
[07:34] <erov> well remove any information from the browser (which browser is it?) may have on .deb.. it should prompt you then
[07:35] <Shuriken-> dusty: did you check my PMs before leaving ?
[07:35] <chavo> cius, I haven't been able to figure this one out either
[07:35] <erov> to sabve or open with
[07:35] <cius> I'm using konqueror
[07:35] <erov> ah.. I use mozilla firefox.. but let me fire of konq and see.
[07:35] <erov> fire of/fire up
[07:36] <cius> okay, I removed the entries for auto handling .deb files
[07:36] <cius> and it still opens with kate
[07:37] <cius> could it be a wider system setting maybe?
[07:37] <gibarian> Hi, got a problem with right-clicks on my hoary system...anyone?
[07:38] <ports> gibarian you really shouldnt be using Hoary
[07:38] <ports> gibarian they're up to 6.06 from the 4.1something youre using
[07:38] <erov> cius.. dunno It works fine here.. :|
[07:39] <cius> erov, that's not what I want to hear  :-)
[07:39] <erov> Configure Konq -> File Assoc. -> *.DEB/deb -> Ark
[07:39] <erov> I know.. I'm trying to think of something..
[07:39] <gibarian> oh, actually I'm using 5.10
[07:39] <gibarian> sorry...what's the codename for that one again?
[07:39] <cius> I appreciate your help btw
[07:39] <erov> breezy
[07:39] <gibarian> but 6.06 has just come out, so...
[07:39] <erov> np
[07:40] <gibarian> right, I'm using breezy
[07:40] <gibarian> sorry
[07:40] <gibarian> so...anyone know why my Desktop would freeze up when right-clicking a file?
[07:40] <erov> what does Left Click actions read?
[07:40] <gibarian> and it's really just the Desktop...icons disappear, but kicker still working, and Superkaramba themes as well...
[07:40] <erov> in the File Assoc. properties window
[07:41] <erov> of deb's
[07:41] <cius> int he general file assoc. window is says "show file in separate viewer"
[07:41] <erov> un select that
[07:42] <erov> select Use settings / Ask to save only
[07:42] <erov> that's how this one reads..
[07:42] <_jpierre> Hi.. Is there a way to install KDE on Ubunto Gnome. I tried using the Kubuntu CD and running the Classical sudo apt-get install kubuntu desktop and it didn't work
[07:43] <azathoth> how comes some apps get the full kde-style treatment, where the global theme (plastik) is applied perfectly and sexily, and some things (like firefox and xchat) still have the clunky ugly gtk look?
[07:43] <erov> because they use GTK
[07:44] <erov> :)
[07:44] <azathoth> and there's no way to get them to use anything else?
[07:44] <ports> hey azathoth
[07:44] <azathoth> hey ports
[07:44] <ports> not until newer versions of the apps become more supportive
[07:44] <azathoth> because in gnome, xchat and firefox both look a whole lot nicer
[07:45] <ports> azathoth im trying to decide between Ubuntu and Kubuntu..
[07:45] <cius> erov, under applications -> x-deb (where I looked earlier to see how it handled deb files) the left click action is "use settings for app group" and "ask whether to sace to disk instead"
[07:45] <azathoth> ports: amarok crashes in gnome for me, so the choice was easy
[07:45] <azathoth> and i prefer kde really...
[07:45] <ports> azathoth why not use something like Xamp?
[07:45] <erov> no as the developers wrote them that way.. you might try.. System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK styles and fonts
[07:45] <erov> i dont know how much that would help
[07:46] <azathoth> the applications available for it are just so much better, ktorrent, kaggregator, amaroK
[07:46] <erov> i agree azathoth
[07:46] <azathoth> Xamp?
[07:46] <azathoth> and thanks erov, i'll try that
[07:46] <ports> azathoth when i started using things like redhat and bsd i always used KDE because it was "more user friendly".. so i opted on Kubuntu when i installed Breezy
[07:46] <ports> azathoth ancient mp3 player.. great app though.. runs a like lot Winamp 2.xx
[07:46] <azathoth> god no
[07:46] <erov> mozilla looks as good if not better than it did in windows xp (as i remember it.. it was a while back)
[07:46] <azathoth> amarok is too sexy
[07:47] <azathoth> amarok is the best audio app on any system
[07:47] <erov> on my system.. but it took some tweaks if i remember right
[07:47] <ports> azathoth http://www.troll.no/
[07:47] <azathoth> and sod gnome, kde is faster and works better
[07:47] <gibarian> Hi..me again...I realized that the right-click issue appeared the first time after updating xorg files yesterday via apt-get...could that be it?
[07:47] <ryanakca> At localhost:631, I selected E210 gdi driver instead of E210 driver, and I obtained no errors. I now get this dialog: http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/screenshot2.png       what do I enter?
[07:48] <ports> azathoth ah well.. im waiting to get my laptop back so i can upgrade
[07:48] <jpatrick> azathoth: it is the only audio app on mine
[07:48] <ports> gibarian very likely
[07:48] <azathoth> jpatrick: yeah, it's too good for anything else
[07:48] <azathoth> it's one of the big perks of going 100% linux
[07:48] <ports> azathoth 100% linux... never!
[07:49] <azathoth> ports: i have no need to go back to windows
[07:49] <erov> me either..
[07:49] <azathoth> i've just gotta get around to swallowing the bullet and changing my ntfs drives to ext3
[07:49] <ports> azathoth in the office environments i work in.. unless if the whole office goes to linux.. we cant give up MS Office
[07:49] <azathoth> ports: openoffice, crossover office?
[07:50] <erov> what kinda documents do yall read/produce?
[07:50] <ports> azathoth open office is really no where near MS office if you're a hardcore user.
[07:50] <azathoth> i am a script-writer and my windows script-writing app has a linux version...
[07:50] <erov> that's what i am trying to figure out.. what's hardcore?
[07:50] <azathoth> that and tomboy (my brain)...
[07:50] <ports> lol
[07:50] <ports> erov we use a lot of formatting, images, changes tracking, form macros.
[07:51] <azathoth> well ports, changing over to a 100% linux office is a great idea, but isn't for everyone
[07:51] <erov> ok..
[07:51] <azathoth> it works for me and my job, because i work from home
[07:51] <erov> so lets get those prioritized  ;)
[07:52] <erov> what's koffice about? anyone try it yet?
[07:52] <ports> erov in one area dealing with constitutions..  itd mean that every organization thats submitted one would have to redo their constitution in Open Office and make sure formatting is right... if tabs/ article numbers dont come out.. the organization gets rejected.
[07:52] <erov> gotcha
[07:52] <ports> erov i installed koffice on Breezy.. havent really used it though
[07:53] <ports> erov that'll all be a bit nicer in the next year once those go into mysql databases.. then formatting wont be an issue.
[07:53] <azathoth> dapper is so much better than breezy it's not funny...
[07:53] <Shaezsche> why doesnt kubuntu recognize the make command?
[07:53] <ports> azathoth i forgot my laptop at home :(
[07:53] <ports> Shaezsche are you running 'make world' ?
[07:53] <azathoth> heh
[07:53] <erov> only complaint I have is inability to CORRECTLY convert xvid/mpeg4 videos --> compatible mpeg2 dvd video without length reporting errors and other weird things (i've read a ton of FAQs and even used the KDVDauthor/kmpeg2 scripts.. no dice)
[07:53] <Shaezsche> make world? what?
[07:53] <gibarian> ports: any idea on how to resolve this? rollback last night's update?
[07:54] <azathoth> i keep getting an error when i run an app atm, so i have to figure out what's causing a 'device error 166' to come up
[07:54] <ports> gibarian youd have to ask someone else how to repair that.. i dont know
[07:54] <ports> Shaezsche why are you running make
[07:54] <erov> Shaezche: did you install make or any related compilers from the repositories ?
[07:54] <Shaezsche> to install a makefile that has acpi info fo rmy laptop
[07:54] <Shaezsche> apt-get install build-essential? is that what i need?
[07:55] <Shaezsche> erov its the default installation
[07:55] <ports> i wish i had some golf clubs
[07:55] <erov> well youll need to install make.. probably gcc as well if you are compiling (i think installing gcc does it automatically)
[07:56] <Shaezsche> yea but does that come with kubuntu?
[07:56] <Shaezsche> i think my adept packet manager said i had gcc
[07:56] <erov> yes.. run Adept.. search for gcc
[07:56] <iNiku> Shaezsche: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:56] <ports> Shaezsche no.. you need to use adept
[07:56] <iNiku> Shaezsche: I think that should sort you out
[07:56] <Shaezsche> thanks inuku
[07:56] <_JP> i have a fresh installation of dapper. is there a way to change boot time resolution? my monitor keeps saying "out of range" until X starts
[07:56] <Shaezsche> iniku why on earth isnt that installed by default?
[07:56] <erov> build-essential, ok
[07:56] <azathoth> for some reason all apps are running in the kde default style now, even tho i don't know why :)
[07:56] <ports> _JP what resolution does your monitor run on?
[07:56] <azathoth> either way it's fixed, so thanks erov
[07:57] <iNiku> Shaezsche: why would it be?
[07:57] <erov> np, you talking about the gtk apps right?
[07:57] <iNiku> Shaezsche: most basic users don't need to compile sources
[07:57] <ports> Shaezsche most people dont need a compiler
[07:57] <_JP> ports: 1280x1024
[07:57] <azathoth> erov: yeah... i set them to run a different theme, then set them back as default "use kde styles" and they are now showing in my custum theme...
[07:57] <cius> yea, screw konqueror, firefox all the way
[07:57] <azathoth> could be a bug, but it's not a serious one...
[07:58] <ports> _JP and on boot it says out of range... thats weird.. because on boot, mine runs at 640x480 until x starts
[07:58] <cius> erov, solved my problem, or rather firefox did :-)
[07:58] <slow-motion> re
[07:58] <cius> thanks for the help
[07:58] <ports> azathoth what theme are you using
[07:58] <iNiku> Shaezsche: what acpi stuff are you compiling?
[07:58] <erov> cius: np..
[07:59] <azathoth> ports: plastik
[07:59] <_JP> ports: yeah, i had the same "out of range" problem during the installation too. i changed the resolution by pressing f4 in the boot menu..
[07:59] <LinuxNewbie2> Anyone know a guide on how to install Kubuntu 6.06 ?
[07:59] <ports> azathoth hrm i didnt care for that one too much...
[07:59] <ports> azathoth i think its Kde-look.org - awesome themes
[08:00] <azathoth> i like it, it's plain, it's simple and it's nicely done
[08:00] <ports> is that the one that has purple in it?
[08:00] <azathoth> i'll take a walk aroud there later, thanks ports
[08:00] <Shaezsche> iniku its for a w5a asus laptop. called acpi4asus at sourceforge
[08:00] <_JP> until the installer crashed and i decided to try text mode installation, which worked flawlessly...
[08:00] <ports> azathoth is that the one that has purple in it?
[08:00] <MidMark> people kscd works for you in dapper? No sound for me
[08:00] <BoD[] > Hello !
[08:00] <iNiku> Shaezsche: okay. is it a kernel module or what?
[08:01] <Shaezsche> yes i thinki
[08:01] <Shaezsche> i cannot get it installed in ubuntu either
[08:01] <BoD[] > Hey I just installed Kubuntu, I go to add/remove Programs, and try to install Firefox... But it's grayed out.. why?
[08:01] <iNiku> Shaezsche: then you'll need the linux-headers package for your kernel version, too
[08:01] <Shaezsche> i believe i have that in my ubuntu, but i dont know about kubuntu
[08:01] <Shaezsche> where can i find that
[08:02] <iNiku> Shaezsche: um, the sourceforge site says it's included in the linux kernel since a long time ago
[08:02] <iNiku> Shaezsche: so why are you installing it manually?
[08:02] <Shaezsche> in ubuntu i have a linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386
[08:02] <iNiku> Shaezsche: uname -r to see your current kernel version
[08:02] <Shaezsche> iniku that latest version isnt
[08:02] <Shaezsche> i not in linux atm iniku
[08:02] <iNiku> Shaezsche: then apt-get install linux-headers-<version>
[08:02] <troy> how well does printing work under dapper?
[08:03] <iNiku> Shaezsche: or all in one, apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:03] <Shaezsche> does that require a net connection?
[08:03] <Shaezsche> i dont have one in linux, i am stuck on dial up
[08:03] <iNiku> Shaezsche: it's a package like any other
[08:03] <erov> also use 686 kernels (if you are running a pentium above)
[08:04] <Shaezsche> i am running a pentium M
[08:04] <iNiku> you'll need a net connection for downloading make, gcc etc. to
[08:04] <iNiku> too
[08:04] <Shaezsche> it automatically installed 386
[08:04] <erov> yes it does for compatibility purposes on install
[08:04] <erov> but.. 686 is optimized for the newer processors (wont run on anything less though)
[08:04] <Shaezsche> too complicated. im going back to windows xp
[08:04] <iNiku> erov: that's a little strange, IMO it should autodetect the cpu type
[08:04] <Shaezsche> j/k
[08:04] <erov> ahaha
[08:05] <iNiku> Shaezsche: like windows is simple :P
[08:05] <lea> hi
[08:05] <Shaezsche> what do you think of windows vista?
[08:05] <Shaezsche> yea well windows recognizes all my hardware
[08:05] <Shaezsche> im on a laptop
[08:05] <erov> i dont think anything.. i havent tried it.. read a few articles and saw some screenshots
[08:05] <iNiku> Shaezsche: agreed, getting esoteric hardware working in linux can be a bitch
[08:05] <iNiku> but usually it's a one-time job
[08:06] <BoD[] > any idea why firefox is grayed out in the "adept installer" ?
[08:06] <Shaezsche> they say windows xp will boot in less than 5 seconds...
[08:06] <Shaezsche> i mean windows vista
[08:07] <BoD[] > nobody?
[08:07] <troy> does anyone know if 3.5.3 plays nicely with cups 1.2x?
[08:07] <iNiku> I rarely boot my systems
[08:07] <iNiku> just sleep the laptop
[08:08] <erov> yeah saving state sleep is always good
[08:08] <erov> just pop it right back up where you left off
[08:08] <mikedep333> hey guys, with my primary user account (but not a test one) KDE is awefully messed up, the majority of icons used by kde are missing. any suggestions on config files to reset?
[08:08] <iNiku> erov: yep, I hate having to close everything
[08:08] <iNiku> mikedep333: it should all be in .kde
[08:09] <mikedep333> iNiKu: yeah
[08:09] <iNiku> mikedep333: I'd try removing the whole thing. mv .kde .kde-old
[08:09] <mikedep333> you think I should just reset everything there?
[08:09] <iNiku> it should get recreated with the defaults then
[08:09] <mikedep333> ok, thanks
[08:09] <erov> yes it should reset with defaults.. but keep your directory backed up for specific info you may want to retrieve
[08:09] <mikedep333> erov: yeah, good point
[08:11] <erov> had to do that with amaroK a few times.. i'd have incoming music trying to be added into the library and it'd be f'd up for good.. had to just remove the collection.db file in some .kde subdirectory
[08:11] <mikedep333> oh good, I just deleted kde* under .kde/share/config and it worked, I didn'
[08:11] <mikedep333> *didn't have to reset everything like kopete
[08:11] <erov> cool
[08:11] <erov> good deal
[08:11] <mikedep333> thx
[08:11] <azathoth> is there a systray new-mail notifier for kubuntu?
[08:12] <_thumper_> smbfs or cifs?  docs say smbfs deprecated
[08:12] <chavo> azathoth, you can make kmail sit in the tray
[08:13] <azathoth> i use thunderbird
[08:13] <azathoth> i'd rather not have big bulky apps open all the time either, when i can just have a small app in the tray
[08:13] <osh_> Hmm, my upgrade wasn't smooth. :-(
[08:13] <LinuxNewbie2> Linux just reminded me of Windows. Not working and then works for no reason. lol
[08:14] <osh_> Most things broke. Now I'm sort of back up to normal again. Although workrave is gone, katapult doesn't work anymore and god knows what else that is broken that I don't know about.
[08:14] <[Nirvana] > hey all, I have an error with gconftool, the command and error msg received can be found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1087674&postcount=5
[08:14] <osh_> Looks like I'll have to do a complete reinstall to get a good dapper going.
[08:15] <BoD[] > any idea why firefox is grayed out in the adept installer? what does it mean when an item is grayed out?
[08:15] <[Nirvana] > oh shoot, I better ask in #ubuntu ... gconftool sounds gnome-ey
[08:15] <ubuntu> Hello everybody, I'm newbie on kubuntu, I've just installed it and i'm looking for some informations about how to start
[08:16] <jdsnape> well, what do you want to do?
[08:16] <azathoth> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ are very good for beginners
[08:16] <ubuntu> I jdsnape, thanks for answering me
[08:17] <hangfire> ubuntu- its easy, just go into your k-menu and adjust the setting the way you like, its as easy or easier than windows
[08:17] <erov> BoD[] : check /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:17] <ubuntu> It's the first time I use a Linux OS
[08:17] <mikedep333> I really have to give you kubuntu devs credit, with the possible exception of adept package management, the kubuntu config utilities seem to be much better than the ubuntu ones.
[08:17] <ubuntu> I'd like to configure my dual screen
[08:17] <hangfire> since your name is "ubuntu" Im guessing your still running it as a live cd
[08:17] <ubuntu> Yes, i'm running it as a live CD
[08:17] <ubuntu> The last version of kubuntu
[08:17] <BoD[] > erov: everything is commented
[08:18] <mikedep333> Like with how you have the menu to setup dual monitors with nvidia, gnome doesn't do that.
[08:18] <erov> everything???
[08:18] <erov> then that is your problem
[08:18] <hangfire> well you should install it to hd first
[08:18] <erov> you need somewhere to get the packages from..
[08:18] <mikedep333> *the system config stuff that is
[08:18] <BoD[] > erov: yes
[08:18] <erov> whether it be a cd source or net source
[08:18] <ubuntu> Is there a difference from running it from the CD, or having it installed on the Hard drive ?
[08:19] <erov> so uncomment some repositories..
[08:19] <ubuntu> excepting the running time I mean
[08:19] <hangfire> yes, you cant save stuff when its just live
[08:19] <BoD[] > erov: ah ok... Yeah I think the installer tried to do something and it couldn't ... normal since the network was not configured yet
[08:19] <BoD[] > erov: ok i'll try
[08:19] <erov> you want to see my sources.list (it may not be the best but everything works..)
[08:19] <iNiku> hmm, gaim 2 seems pretty nice
[08:20] <mikedep333> ubuntu: also, keep in mind that any OS is MUCH faster running from the HD than from a CD/DVD
[08:20] <BoD[] > erov: sure!
[08:20] <ubuntu> mikedep : sure I kknow It
[08:20] <ubuntu> But the problem is that I'd like to try my hardware before installing it on Hard drive
[08:21] <erov> http://erov.ath.cx/sources.list
[08:21] <BoD[] > erov: thanks very much
[08:21] <erov> np
[08:21] <mikedep333> ubuntu: ok, is there any hardware you're having trouble with?
[08:22] <BlackHand> wtf its a complot a conspiracy!
[08:22] <ShastaMaroon> Does windows have an equivalent of /etc/hosts ?
[08:22] <BlackHand> ubuntu dapper finally released
[08:23] <BlackHand> and ONE DAY BEFORE, the great lobbies of power force to the kde foundation to release kde 3.5.3
[08:23] <erov> ShastaMaroon: yes in the C:\windows dir.. it uses to be like lmhosts or something i cant remember anymore but there are 2 or 3 files in the dir
[08:23] <ubuntu> The two things i'm in doubt are my dual screen, and my RAID device !
[08:23] <ShastaMaroon> erov cool, thanks.
[08:23] <mikedep333> shastamaroon: yes, C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
[08:24] <mikedep333> I'm pretty sure about that
[08:24] <erov> well thats a new one on me mike.. but i havent used it in so long, you're probably right.. im remembering win9x days
[08:24] <mikedep333> ubuntu: you're doing dual monitors? on what kind of graphics card?
[08:24] <ubuntu> Nvidia
[08:24] <mikedep333> erov: in win9x, it may be in another folder
[08:24] <ubuntu> Geforce 6600 Gt
[08:24] <mikedep333> like system instead of system32
[08:24] <mikedep333> ubuntu: you're in luck
[08:24] <ubuntu> tell me why :d
[08:24] <mikedep333> I just setup my dual monitors on my nvidia 6800
[08:25] <hangfire> ubuntu-Im not sure, but I think you have to install your graphics drivers after the os is installed, you might want to use "easyubuntu" to install the official graphic drivers
[08:25] <ShastaMaroon> mikedep333 good memory
[08:25] <mikedep333> ubuntu: basically you install the package nvidia-glx
[08:25] <mikedep333> thx
[08:25] <mikedep333> that is in the multiverse repository
[08:25] <BoD[] > erov: some items are still grayed! I don't understand why
[08:25] <mikedep333> !tell ubuntu about components
[08:26] <mikedep333> and then in kde, you go to system settings, display
[08:26] <mikedep333> and you'll see an option for dual monitors
[08:26] <ubuntu> I see it
[08:26] <mikedep333> you enter your password to do it of course
[08:26] <mikedep333> I don't believe you can test this out from the livecd
[08:26] <ubuntu> but for my second screen it only allow 800x600 resolution
[08:26] <ubuntu> that's why I think i have to install last Nvidia drivers for Linux
[08:26] <mikedep333> ubuntu: yeah
[08:26] <mikedep333> the package nvidia-glx is the latest official nvidia driver
[08:27] <ubuntu> where can I find It ?
[08:27] <mikedep333> I don't think you can install it with the liveCD though
[08:27] <erov> have you "fetched lists"
[08:27] <ubuntu> oh damn !
[08:27] <serenity> hi
[08:27] <erov> or whatever.. bod[]
[08:27] <mikedep333> ubuntu: I had ubotu tell you about the components
[08:27] <mikedep333> it is in multiverse
[08:27] <ShastaMaroon> mikedep333 /etc/hosts ...on windows...interesting
[08:27] <mikedep333> because it has a proprietary license
[08:27] <hangfire> how do I get the NickServ password to automatically log in? I think I have to set that in Identitys
[08:27] <BoD[] > erov: where is that option ? :)
[08:27] <serenity> i have a ntfs partition and want to format it with ext3, but how?
[08:27] <mikedep333> but once you have it installed
[08:27] <mikedep333> from the display menu, you can chose the driver
[08:28] <mikedep333> you want to chose "nvidia" instead of "nv"
[08:28] <mikedep333> nv is the free but very incomplete driver included with the ubuntu CD
[08:28] <mikedep333> *kubuntu too
[08:28] <erov> Fetch Updates button
[08:28] <mikedep333> and nvidia is the official one from nvidia
[08:28] <erov> in Adept
[08:28] <hangfire> and incomplete means no 3D if you can believe it
[08:28] <erov> it'll log into the sites and get a list.. maybe that will clear it
[08:28] <BoD[] > erov: I don't see such a button
[08:28] <mikedep333> I believe it also means no dual monitors, or not a very good implementation of them
[08:28] <erov> oh.. erm what exactly are you running
[08:29] <erov> and from what point in the start menu are you running it
[08:29] <BoD[] > erov: Adept Installer 2.0 Destroyer (Using KDE 3.5.2)
[08:29] <BoD[] > erov: From Add/Remove programs
[08:29] <erov> ok dont use that..
[08:29] <erov> do this:
[08:30] <erov> Start -> System -> Adept
[08:30] <BoD[] > ahhhhh :)
[08:30] <erov> run it from that point.. the other one is different for some reason
[08:30] <BoD[] > erov: ok thank you very much
[08:30] <erov> then look down the list for firefox
[08:30] <erov> or type in a keyword at type to filter results
[08:30] <BoD[] > ok
[08:31] <erov> the add/remove programs is limited to K* programs and is run a different way from the "regular" adept manager
[08:31] <ubuntu> mikedep333 : please tell me again where I can Find the Nvidia display driver
[08:31] <erov> firefox is a gtk program.. so they wont include it in the firstr
[08:31] <BoD[] > erov: i see
[08:31] <erov> in a push to use Konqueror i suppose
[08:31] <BoD[] > hehe :)
[08:32] <hangfire> can anyone tell me what I enter into the Identitys settings so my NickServ password will automatically log in?
[08:32] <hangfire> basically I want to know what I enter under "service"
[08:32] <mikedep333> ubuntu: using the package manager
[08:32] <mikedep333> (adept under kde)
[08:32] <erov> hangfire you using what? Kopete?
[08:33] <mikedep333> and with the component "multiverse" setup
[08:33] <hangfire> no konversation
[08:33] <mikedep333> it is nvidia-glx
[08:33] <erov> ahh erm .. havent used that one. .but kopete just has a simple ON CONNECT input for commands to be performed upon connect
[08:34] <hangfire> ok, thanks for that erov, Ill check out kopete
[08:34] <erov> its a messenger.. program.. but irc can easily be added.. and is quite fine (to me) for ircing
[08:34] <chavo> hangfire, open up the server list -> f2
[08:34] <ubuntu> Where Is the package manager ?
[08:34] <chavo> then edit the server
[08:34] <ubuntu> Ok i found it
[08:34] <erov> yeah maybe chavo knows
[08:35] <mikedep333> hmm, you'll have to excuse me
[08:35] <mikedep333> I'm used to using the gnome tools to manage packages (synaptic)
[08:36] <mikedep333> but somebody else here should be able to help you install nvidia-glx from multiverse using adept
[08:36] <ubuntu> I'm just installing the content of the nvidia-glx pachakage
[08:36] <ubuntu> package
[08:36] <mikedep333> ok, great
[08:37] <hangfire> ok thanks chavo, checking out server list now
[08:37] <ubuntu> Ok, Adedt ( the Installing Program ) tels me that's the packet is installed
[08:37] <ubuntu> Now I have to change the display driver from nm to nvidia is it right ?
[08:37] <mikedep333> ok, now you can do everything from display settings
[08:37] <mikedep333> yeah
[08:37] <gan|y|med> hallo
[08:37] <hangfire> chavo, where it says "commands" what do I enter there?
[08:37] <chavo> when you hit edit on the server address, there's a box to put in your password
[08:38] <hangfire> that box is "commands"?
[08:38] <erov> isnt that for the server password, chavo or is it one and the same with NickServ here?
[08:39] <chavo> yeah it's for nickserv
[08:39] <erov> k
[08:40] <hangfire> do I just enter my password where it says commands or type NickServ IDENTITY <password>?
[08:40] <ubuntu> Ok, How do I restart the X server ?
[08:40] <chavo> hangfire, click on the server name in the server box, and then click edit
[08:40] <hangfire> ok, thx
[08:41] <chavo> then you can put in a password there
[08:41] <chavo> konversation won't let me type with that window open
[08:41] <mikedep333> ubuntu: when you log out
[08:41] <mikedep333> there should be an option in the menu
[08:42] <mikedep333> if you can't find it, just hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:42] <hangfire> dang I still get the password incorrect :(
[08:43] <chavo> well you gotta put in the right password
[08:44] <hangfire> ok, I got it, I dont enter in the "command" box, its in the little server menu down below
[08:44] <shulman> how do I add synaptic to a new install of dapper drake? I can't seem to find a respository with it
[08:44] <kbrooks> shulman: its added.
[08:44] <shulman> kbrooks: how do I get to it?
[08:44] <kbrooks> wait
[08:45] <kbrooks> sorry
[08:45] <kbrooks> um, don't use synaptic. use adept.
[08:45] <shulman> kbrooks: when I use adept, it doesn't seem tobe updating following changes to the sources.list file
[08:46] <ganymed_> what package has to be installed to acquire mpr support?
[08:46] <kbrooks> shulman: it isn't magic. you need to tell it to update from the changes you made
[08:46] <osled> hi!!!!!!!!
[08:46] <ganymed_> what package has to be installed to acquire mp3 <-- support?
[08:47] <shulman> kbrooks: does that need to be done from the command line or is there a way to do it in apept?
[08:47] <erov> Fetch updates will update the rep. list
[08:47] <mikedep333> !restrictedformats
[08:47] <ubotu> from memory, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:47] <mikedep333> ganymed: there
[08:47] <erov> menu->system->adept
[08:47] <ganymed_> thanks
[08:47] <ganymed_> ciao
[08:48] <erov> !freeformats
[08:48] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[08:48] <shulman> sorry -- I was using the adept installer... I'm in the full version now. thx!
[08:54] <LinuxNewbie2> Hey
[08:54] <LinuxNewbie2> I am back and its isntalled.
[08:55] <nads> Hey guys.... I am having trouble installing zenity... it says it has some dependencies and doing apt-get -f install doesn't update anything.... can anyone pleaes help?
[08:55] <agalavis> hi
[08:56] <joe__> Hello.  How can I put the trashcan on the desktop instead of the taskbar in dapper?  There is no Desktop/trash.desktop file to edit, so I am lost.
[08:56] <mikedep333> nads: did you update your package list?
[08:56] <nads> mike: yeah ... i put the same list that they posted on the forums.....
[08:56] <agalavis> i'm also havin problems installing some packages, have anyone installed libxine-extracodecs?
[08:57] <sorush20> hi guys I'm unable to get internet access in the new kernel in dapper with my original ndiswrapper configuration what should I do?
[08:57] <GNAM> where can I set screensaver in kubuntu?
[08:57] <agalavis> i enabled all repositories and updated the packages list
[08:58] <agalavis> GNAM: right click over the desktop
[08:58] <nads> agalavis: were you able to install Automatix?
[08:58] <joe__> GNAM: rightclick anywhere on the desktop, choose configure desktop and choose screensavers.
[08:58] <agalavis> nop nads i have not tried
[08:58] <agalavis> i'm doing all by hand
[08:58] <LinuxNewbie2> How can I turn off the Case Sensitivety in Konsole ?
[08:58] <nads> has anyone been able to install Automatix?
[08:59] <GNAM> wow
[08:59] <agalavis> i think there are missing packages in the repositories
[08:59] <joe__> LinuxNewbie2: I don't think you can.
[08:59] <LinuxNewbie2> nads: I intent to get it now :D
[08:59] <agalavis> is this true?
[08:59] <chavo> LinuxNewbie2, you can't case sensitivity is in the filesystem
[08:59] <nads> thanks newbie.... let me know how that goes
[09:02] <Blake7984> got ubuntu installed and booting well...got windows on hd0,0...it was empty and i just re-ghosted my windows image (pre-ubuntu) on to that partition...in grub i try the normal commands to boot windows, but it doesnt boot...any suggestions to try?
[09:03] <Blake7984> commands used to boot were:   rootnoverify (hd0,0)    makeactive   chainloader +1    boot
[09:09] <shulman> When I play videos downloaded from the internet, I get a bit of "static" in the video... weird colored single pixel wide lines are flickering around the screen. any idea what would cause that?
[09:10] <guptan> My belkin usb wifi adapter is working fine with kubuntu but fails to work in ubuntu (even freezes the system) Please help me to make it work with Ubuntu
[09:13] <LinuxNewbie2> How can I make the ICONS on the desktop and Fodler views but smaller?
[09:15] <erov> menu->system settings->appearance or icons i believe, linuxnewbie2
[09:17] <stodge> So is printing in Kubuntu broken??
[09:18] <stodge> I can't set up a printer
[09:21] <BlueEagl1> Is it just me or is the kubuntu dapper installer bugged when attempting to partition? I am trying to install using norwegian locale
[09:23] <v3ctor> BlueEagle: i agree
[09:23] <BlueEagle> The installer crashes with the error message as found on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/756183
[09:24] <BlueEagle> that is after showing "please allow atleast 2gb for root and 256 mb for swap"
[09:24] <BlueEagle> v3ctor: Do you know of a workaround?
[09:25] <stodge> Why is adept updater trying to install the GNOME application installer on Kubuntu? I don't have GNOME installed
[09:25] <BlueEagle> v3ctor: ie. does the english (default) options work?
[09:26] <_sara> hey
[09:26] <gan|y|med> hallo. i want to compile lame. configure works, but when i do "make" it complains that no targets were defined and that no make control file could be found. any ideas?
[09:27] <BlueEagle> gan|y|med: are you in the correct directory? Have you got sufficient permissions? Did you install build_essentials?
[09:29] <gan|y|med> first two yes. what's the last?
[09:31] <tibal> hi
[09:31] <tibal> does someone have problems with xine engine and avi file ?
[09:31] <stodge> Anyone able to add a Samba printer to kubuntu dapper?
[09:32] <tibal> "couldn't find demux for file"
[09:33] <gan|y|med> BlueEagle: what is build_essentials
[09:34] <tibal> gan|y|med: a set of essential tools to build softwares like gcc and some libraries
[09:35] <tibal> gan|y|med: the base things to compile
[09:35] <gan|y|med> tibal: but the package doesn't exist. i have installed gcc (4.0 and 3.3), make, autoconf, automake lib6..sth.
[09:36] <tibal> gan|y|med: build-essentials, not build_essentials :)
[09:36] <gan|y|med> thx
[09:36] <troy> does anyone know if 3.5.3 plays nicely with cups 1.2x?
[09:36] <tibal> gan|y|med: and without "s".. build-essential - informational list of build-essential packages
[09:37] <gan|y|med> now we got it. i typed it four times :)
[09:38] <gan|y|med> yoooohooooooooooooooo
[09:38] <XavierGr> Does kubuntu offers save settings per folder?
[09:39] <IGD> i changed my resolution in kubuntu to 1400X900 but now it appears that i have multiple desktops in that resolution. anyone have this problem before?
[09:40] <gan|y|med> any idea why libxine-extracodecs is not in universe?
[09:41] <user-land> hello, has mozilla been updated to protect from the newly published vulnerabilities ?
[09:41] <noteventime> user-land: 1.5.3?
[09:42] <user-land> Cert writes: 'severe impact of these vulnerabilities could allow a remote attacker to execute arbitrary code with the privileges of the user running the affected application. Upgrade to Mozilla Firefox <IP_ADDRESS>, Mozilla Thunderbird <IP_ADDRESS>, or SeaMonkey 1.0.2.
[09:42] <noteventime> hmm
[09:43] <user-land> Novell/Suse is sleeping too ...
[09:43] <noteventime> user-land: Not in apt yet
[09:43] <noteventime> When was it released?
[09:43] <erov> 2 days ago
[09:43] <erov> i believe
[09:43] <gan|y|med> any idea why libxine-extracodecs is not in universe?
[09:43] <user-land> i wonder why they leaveusunprotected ...
[09:43] <robin___> this room is getting big lol
[09:44] <noteventime> gan|y|med, Licensing problems
[09:44] <user-land> i don't know.
[09:44] <noteventime> I think
[09:44] <paolo_> ciao a tutti
[09:44] <paolo_> io sono italiano
[09:44] <noteventime> !it
[09:44] <erov> because it's in multiverse, gany
[09:44] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:44] <gan|y|med> what is better: kuser or the kcontrol panel for user administration?
[09:44] <erov> the distributors could face legal problems if it was done a certain way
[09:45] <cesar> Hola
[09:46] <cesar> dnde estoy
[09:46] <noteventime> !es
[09:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:47] <user-land> Release Date: June 1, 2006
[09:47] <user-land> http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases/<IP_ADDRESS>.html
[09:47] <noteventime> :/
[09:47] <gan|y|med> thx and ciao
[09:47] <noteventime> It took nearly a week for them to release 1.5.3 too :/
[09:48] <noteventime> If I'm not wrong
[09:48] <erov> yeah i just downloaded it myself
[09:48] <erov> heh..
[09:48] <tzar> is kde the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[09:48] <Bazzi> noteventime: chill ;)
[09:48] <erov> yes tzar.. along with the K support apps and adept package manager i believe..
[09:49] <noteventime> tzar, yes, but all the apps are changed to KDE apps
[09:49] <tzar> ill try that then, i installed ubuntu.. and its not working too well on my lappy :S
[09:49] <noteventime> so instead of totem you have kaffeine
[09:49] <noteventime> and so on
[09:49] <noteventime> tzar, Why?
[09:50] <user-land> what is not working, tzar ?
[09:50] <tzar> well first of all my wireless... it sees my and other surrounding  routers but wont connect
[09:50] <LinuxNewbie2> How can I end a procces ?
[09:50] <LinuxNewbie2> Like Task Manager in Windows XP
[09:51] <user-land> ctrl-esc
[09:51] <LinuxNewbie2> Thanks
[09:51] <user-land> tzar, the chance that it will work on kubuntu is there but not too high.
[09:52] <erov> what card tzar
[09:52] <tzar> i dont know... it acting wierd overall
[09:52] <erov> i had the same problem actually it had to do with firmware for the card..
[09:52] <tzar> erov its built in,  intel B/G 2200
[09:53] <tzar> i had xandros with kde, and im used to kde a bit more
[09:53] <tzar> anyone know a good network manager perhaps? maybe that will help
[09:54] <jw> I know this is a stupid question, but is there any way to pause the upgrade to dapper?
[09:54] <erov> tzar: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78983.html better yet.. http://www.google.com/search?hs=Fib&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=intel+bg+2000+ubuntu&btnG=Search
[09:54] <jw> it still shows 5 hours remaining and it's already 10pm
[09:54] <erov> the first in the forum.. has the same problem as you
[09:55] <erov> i dont think so jw :|
[09:55] <erov> it  may not redownload the already downloaded packages next time
[09:56] <erov> if it checks out alright
[09:56] <jw> but can i just close it?
[09:56] <erov> not sure on that though
[09:56] <jw> it didn't install anything yet, just downloaded
[09:56] <erov> yeah go ahead it shouldnt "redownload" the ones already gotten.. effectively "pausing" it
[09:56] <erov> not 100% on that though
[09:56] <jw> ok
[09:57] <user-land> jw, is your computer too loud to leave it running ?
[09:57] <jw> its in my bedroom, so yeah it's a bit annoying
[09:58] <jw> and tomorrow I have to go somewhere, so i can leave it on meanwhile
[09:58] <user-land> have a good night then :-)
[09:58] <jw> but in 1 hour 15 min the remaning time only decreased with 30 min...
[09:59] <jw> maybe I'll download the cd via torrent, that may be easier if i want to pause it again
[10:00] <paolo_> buogiorno a tutti
[10:01] <paolo_> #ubuntu-it
[10:02] <cius> dies anyone have a link to information about theming kde 3.5?
[10:03] <erov> like making your own theme?
[10:03] <XVampireX> kopete 0.12  is out, when do I expect to see it in the repos?
[10:03] <tzar> how come so litle people in #Kubuntu compared to the ubuntu room?
[10:03] <cius> erov, yea
[10:04] <cius> google turned up very little
[10:06] <erov> i'd look at an existing theme structure..
[10:06] <erov> heh..
[10:06] <erov> try to learn from it.. but im SURE there is a resource SOMEWHERE..
[10:07] <cius> you wouldn't happen to know where window decorations are installed would you?
[10:08] <chavo> cius, kwin decorations are compiled and they go in /usr/lib/kde3
[10:09] <cius> chavo, ah, good to know
[10:09] <osh_> cius: how about #kde? they should know...
[10:09] <cius> osh, yea, I'll try that
[10:09] <chavo> cius, there is one called dekorator that let's you design your own with pixmaps
[10:13] <osh_> anyone got bluetooth running under kubuntu? I've tried the bluetooth-tools but I just can't seem to get it to talk to my phone. any hints?
[10:16] <r0xz> does anyone know if there a game like "trackmania original" for linux already?
[10:18] <r0xz> it's really a nice race game
[10:19] <XVampireX> No idea r0xz, check places like www.happypenguin.org www.linuxgames.com www.linux-gamers.net and others
[10:20] <XVampireX> www.linuxgamepublishing.com too
[10:21] <r0xz> XVampireX: already done that, but nothing close i am afraid. Thanks though
[10:21] <XVampireX> Okey
[10:22] <robin___> used easyubuntu and works great. java not working for firefox,  java and flash both working in konqueror, and quick way to fix
[10:24] <zero> has any one magaged to get WPA working with Centrino (ipw2200) on 6.06?
[10:28] <robin___> where can a get a how to install java in firefox
[10:30] <bimberi> !java
[10:30] <jpatrick> !java
[10:30] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:31] <neko> I have skim installed as part of the kubuntu default, but english is the only engine it's showing for it. do I install scim and its appropriate engines?
[10:32] <XVampireX> on kubuntu what package to install for checkers?
[10:36] <neko> checkers as in the game? aka Draughts?
[10:38] <koper_> First time ever user user of GNU/Linux & kubuntu, i hope(Know) you guys & girls will assist me in future
[10:38] <XVampireX> checkers as in the game, yeah
[10:38] <XVampireX> koper_: Welcome aboard
[10:38] <LinuxNewbie3> Firefox is working perfectly with my bookmarks and cookies :D
[10:38] <LinuxNewbie3> in Linux how can i check what Extensions i go in XP ?
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> XVampireX: Use xboard on freechess.org (thats the real game chess)
[10:39] <XVampireX> Is that chess? I don't know chess, I want checkers
[10:40] <XVampireX> The one with the regular soldiers and kings and the one you can eat and the winner is the one who eats the most
[10:40] <paulvolk> Hello
[10:42] <paulvolk> I was just installed Kubuntu Drapper and I was wondering where I could get a list of the repositories for the latest release.
[10:42] <XVampireX> tzar: Welcome aboard, too.
[10:42] <h3sp4wn> !easysource
[10:42] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:42] <tzar> :)
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> paulvolk: Have a look at that
[10:43] <paulvolk> ok thanks
[10:43] <paulvolk> and another question...
[10:43] <XVampireX> More people to linux/ubuntu/kubuntu, more power to the world
[10:43] <paulvolk> The latest release, is it the final release? not a beta?
[10:44] <obscurite> anyone familiar with xinerama? i have it set up with lappy screen + extenral LCD, but i'm not sure how I can switch back to just lappy screen when I travel. is there an easy way without editing xorg.conf every time?
[10:46] <eimajenthat> obscurite: I messed with this a bit a while back.  Don't remember the details, but...
[10:46] <tzar> hmm kubuntu too dont want to connect to my router :S
[10:47] <eimajenthat> obscurite: I believe you can set the xorg.conf to try dual screens, and then try single screens when it starts.  So you'd just have to restart X when you change monitor configuration.
[10:47] <eimajenthat> When it starts, if it detects both monitors, you get both.  If it only detects one, you only get one.
[10:47] <eimajenthat> Lemme see if I can find my xorg.conf where I ahd that working
[10:48] <obscurite> eimjenthat - I have an option in my Device sections called "DevicePresence" - could that be it? i'll give it a shot when i'm ready to sign off. thanks
[10:49] <XVampireX> obscurite: Try making 2 versions and making some script to change them
[10:49] <obscurite> XVampireX - that's a good idea, except i'd still have to restart X (which means saving and closing all programs. boooo!)
[10:50] <obscurite> I want to be as cool as a mac or windows users and be able to unplug my LCD and have the screen just work ;)
[10:50] <XVampireX> obscurite: write the same script to restart X for you and do all the job for you
[10:51] <XVampireX> And save sessions and whatever you want
[10:51] <XVampireX> That's linux >_<
[10:51] <tzar> XVampireX any idea why my wireless wont work on my laptop?  built in card, intel b/g 2200  - i even removed the password from my router  and it says  Connection failed... it sees my router though and the surroudning ones too
[10:52] <XVampireX> Yeah, you need to install some things for wireless to work
[10:52] <obscurite> XVampireX - hopefully linux will get super beefy video at some point, including all distros having a good xorg.conf config tool in the short term
[10:52] <Blaidd> Is there anyone around who wouldn't mind taking a minute to help me install kde .. there seem to be some package issues with breezy that I'm running into
[10:53] <XVampireX> obscurite: It should
[10:53] <tzar> XVampireX ... sorry im a newbie to the linux world... can you help out?
[10:54] <XVampireX> tzar: You already said you are, and I'm trying to find what package you need, I forgot it exactly, trying to find a guide
[10:54] <XVampireX> !wireless
[10:54] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[10:54] <obscurite> blaidd - did you just do a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop? or are you talking about an upgrade of just KDE?
[10:54] <erov> tzar.. did you read those pages i pasted earlier
[10:54] <XVampireX> Yeah
[10:54] <XVampireX> tzar: Go there
[10:54] <XVampireX> It should be about the same with kubuntu
[10:54] <Blaidd> The problem is I'm not sure.  I did some upgrades and an distro-update recently, and xserver stopped working..
[10:55] <Blaidd> I've got it to the point where is goes into X but complains that it cant' find a manager, so I was just trying to reinstall KDE
[10:55] <tzar> erov yes i did, but it said to modify a file that i dont have..
[10:55] <XVampireX> tzar: Here's the one for kubuntu mainly
[10:55] <XVampireX> http://www.diabolikal.org/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.75
[10:55] <erov> k
[10:55] <obscurite> blaidd - i'd say you can remove and reinstall kubuntu-desktop but that's a lot of packages ;)
[10:56] <obscurite> blaidd - see the error in your xorg log?
[10:56] <tzar> .
[10:56] <Blaidd> I haven't looked since it told me I didn't have a manager installed.. I figured I'd go straight to kde at that point
[10:57] <Blaidd> So I tried to remove kubuntu-desktop and it says it's not installed, but when I do an install I get more borkem packages (open office)
[10:57] <LinuxNewbie3> I have officially become a nerd. I am using Linux :(
[10:57] <LinuxNewbie3> lol
[10:57] <obscurite> blaidd - i heard open office has issues in the new ubuntu, so it might just be OO
[10:57] <Blaidd> damn
[10:58] <XVampireX> LinuxNewbie3: using linux does not mean you're a nerd
[10:58] <LinuxNewbie3> Now I am off to configure the extensiosn i got  for firefox.
[10:58] <obscurite> hey linuxnewbi3. good luck
[10:58] <XVampireX> Using linux means you are open to learning new eniviornments and supporting freedom
[10:58] <LinuxNewbie3> XVampireX: Linux aint for normal end users. Hard to use in my exrpeince.
[10:58] <XVampireX> It's easy, really...
[10:59] <XVampireX> It's just not windows, it's different
[10:59] <erov> yeah its easy.. just have to be open to learning
[10:59] <LinuxNewbie3> You didnt have the trouble I had this morning with partitions
[10:59] <paulvolk> I had the same thing
[10:59] <XVampireX> When you learn it, you'll become enlightened
[10:59] <LinuxNewbie3> I know
[10:59] <erov> neko: ditto.. it just wasnt flexible or stable
[10:59] <Blaidd> Well. I guess I'll go back to package hunting :)  Thanks for the help
[10:59] <neko> if only because it seems like windows is always trying to get in my way
[10:59] <paulvolk> I changed to linux about a year ago and it took a while to change from Windows
[10:59] <obscurite> The only downside since I got xinerama working is now windows aren't respecting my panel
[10:59] <XVampireX> LinuxNewbie3: Partitioning is different in linux, yeah. That's why you had the problem.
[10:59] <paulvolk> but it does get easier!!!
[11:00] <XVampireX> But you should always know that there are 2 partitions you need: root boot file system partition, home partition and swap partition
[11:00] <LinuxNewbie3> I need to configure these extensions I got then I need to boot into XP so take a note of all my extensions and then I need to take a note of my programs so I can slowly move over to Open Source versions of them or use WINE on a few :D
[11:00] <Blaidd> obscurite: it looks like there's a java related package that will solve the dependance issues once you get it install
[11:00] <XVampireX> 3^
[11:00] <Blaidd> installed*
[11:00] <LinuxNewbie3> Partition wasnt the hard part that was easy.
[11:00] <LinuxNewbie3> For some reason it would recoginze it
[11:00] <obscurite> blaidd - i have no idea what you're talking about but i'm glad you found something that might help
[11:00] <LinuxNewbie3> Only happeend with Kubuntu 6.06 then it worked for some reason
[11:01] <Blaidd> obscurite: heh okay
[11:01] <LinuxNewbie3> I had a ext3 and swap partition. obth formated and ext3 set to active i clicked next NOTHIGN. It wasnt there like, I never created it i got someone here to help me even sent screenshots tot he guy (alos the screenshot thignis cool :D)
[11:01] <LinuxNewbie3> he said its correct but it still didnt work
[11:02] <LinuxNewbie3> in the end it worked i dont know why maybe its cuase i set the main nTFS as active and then ext3 as active.... ?
[11:02] <XVampireX> LinuxNewbie3: The cool part about dapper is that if you got problem with install, you can always get help ;)
[11:02] <LinuxNewbie3> 1 thing i need heplwith aswell. lol
[11:02] <LinuxNewbie3> How can i UNINSTALL DOM Inspector and Talkback in Firefox ?
[11:02] <LinuxNewbie3> I can disable it but I cannot uninstall it
[11:03] <obscurite> I had this weird problem where more than half the breezy install CD's I burned didn't work. I don't know if it's the ISO or the CDROM drivers, but it really sucked.
[11:03] <obscurite> I've heard some people complain about the dapper ISO too, I hope it's not the same thing again
[11:03] <LinuxNewbie3> The guy i spoke to just before he went said you aint the only 1 who means to be havinf a problem.
[11:04] <neko> obscurite: did you have the burning software verify the disk once it had burned it?
[11:04] <paulvolk> No I downloaded the ISO today and it worked perfectly
[11:04] <serenity> hi
[11:05] <obscurite> neko - i lowered the speed as much as possible, after i found threads on people having the same issue
[11:05] <serenity> my monitor is flimmering, i changed the modeline in the x.org-conf but nothing happened
[11:05] <obscurite> flimmering??
[11:05] <serenity> mom
[11:05] <obscurite> is that like flicker + glimmer?
[11:05] <neko> obscurite: and you were still getting 50% duff burns from the ISO?
[11:05] <serenity> flickering
[11:06] <obscurite> neko - yeah, i mean it could have been my fault, but many people had the same issue
[11:06] <obscurite> serenity - was it flickering before? did you make any changes that might have caused  the problem?
[11:07] <serenity> it was flickering all the time, i installed the nvidia (not nv) drivers, but nothing changed
[11:07] <obscurite> serenity - did it flicker from the time you bought it?
[11:07] <serenity> no, under windows is was ok, 85 hz
[11:07] <serenity> and now 60
[11:09] <obscurite> serenity - did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure server-xorg
[11:09] <serenity> no
[11:09] <nocloud> my laptop monitor is stuck at 640x480 resolution....
[11:09] <nocloud> i can't get it to go higher than that
[11:09] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can fix that?
[11:10] <serenity> shell says that server-xorg is not installed
[11:10] <crazy_penguin> a good night to all! pleasent dreams!
[11:10] <obscurite> nocloud - sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server-xorg
[11:11] <LinuxNewbie3> I am guessing Kubuntu comes with, CD-RWing stuff
[11:11] <LinuxNewbie3> and other software?
[11:11] <LinuxNewbie3> Damn ineed a list of windows to Linux programs
[11:11] <LinuxNewbie3> lol
[11:12] <nocloud> i did use sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server-xorg but the resolution didn't'change even after i selected the correct resolution
[11:12] <nocloud> do i need to reboot first?
[11:12] <serenity> strg+alt+backspace nocloud
[11:12] <XVampireX> Anyways, anyone knows when or if at all kopete 0.12 will be available in the repositories?
[11:13] <obscurite> sorry, i think it's actually dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:13] <XVampireX> Cause I don't like compiling
[11:13] <nocloud> strg?
[11:13] <serenity> strg=ctrll
[11:13] <serenity> strg=ctrl
[11:13] <serenity> sorry
[11:13] <nocloud> thanks
[11:13] <nocloud> i'll go try that
[11:14] <serenity> obscurite: shell says, that x-server is not installed
[11:14] <obscurite> use xserver-xorg instead
[11:15] <serenity> works, but this will override my nvidia-driver?
[11:16] <THY733T> can anybody tell me the ip address of irc.flightgear.org?
[11:16] <obscurite> serenity - if you're worried, make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:17] <iNiku> irc.flightgear.org has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:17] <iNiku> but why?
[11:17] <THY733T> thanks iNiku
[11:17] <THY733T> i've problems to connect it
[11:17] <THY733T> 6667 is filtered
[11:17] <serenity> obscurite: so i have to decide. No flickering (nv), or 3d-accl (nvidia)?
[11:17] <obscurite> TH733T - just ping the address to see the IP. type host <domain name>
[11:18] <obscurite> I mean, ping <domain name> or host <domain name>
[11:18] <iNiku> serenity: the nvidia driver has lots of config options, I'm pretty sure you can set it up to use a sensible mode that doesn't flicker
[11:18] <THY733T> i was be able to connect before
[11:18] <serenity> iNiku: no, i found no option for this
[11:18] <THY733T> last 2 two days is problem
[11:19] <THY733T> i've thoguht about DNS problem
[11:19] <iNiku> serenity: have you looked at Xorg.0.log to see what it thinks your monitor can do?
[11:19] <THY733T> then it looks like a routing problem
[11:20] <iNiku> serenity: it will ask the monitor what it's capable of and choose modelines based on that. if you configure a modeline with a higher refresh rate but it thinks your monitor can't handle that, it will be ignored
[11:21] <iNiku> THY733T: try telnet irc.flightgear.org 6667
[11:21] <serenity> iNiku: i thought the modeline will force the resolution. where can i find Xorg.0.log?
[11:21] <iNiku> THY733T: what happens?
[11:21] <iNiku> serenity: it won't, if it would result in a horizontal or vertical refresh rate your monitor cannot handle
[11:21] <iNiku> serenity: or if X thinks your monitor cannot handle it
[11:21] <iNiku>  /var/log/Xorg.o.log
[11:22] <iNiku>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:22] <obscurite> iNiku - do you know much about xinerama?
[11:23] <serenity> iNiku: please look here http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1366/
[11:24] <iNiku> obscurite: no, not much
[11:24] <iNiku> serenity: could you pastebin your xorg.conf, too?
[11:25] <nocloud> how do i get root control in kate to i can save to xorg.conf?
[11:25] <obscurite> iNiku - what's a good string to search for in the xorg log for monitor specs?
[11:25] <jtmoney> nocloud: kdesu or su?
[11:25] <jtmoney> kdesu kate <file> ?
[11:25] <obscurite> nocloud - sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;)
[11:26] <jtmoney> heh
[11:26] <jtmoney> yeah, right =)
[11:26] <jtmoney> kedit ain't bad at all
[11:26] <obscurite> I think I would have a brain hemmorrhage if i edited a system file in a graphical editor ;)
[11:27] <serenity> iNiku: x.org conf http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1367/
[11:27] <nocloud> thanks
[11:27] <serenity> nocloud: did it work?
[11:27] <obscurite> but i'm loving kate
[11:27] <nocloud> yea
[11:27] <obscurite> nocloud - what worked?
[11:27] <nocloud> also, does control-alt-backspace =  reboot?
[11:27] <nocloud> i got my screen resolution back
[11:28] <nocloud> :)
[11:28] <neko> gyah
[11:28] <obscurite> nocloud - that restarts X
[11:28] <nocloud> hmm, okay, i need a reboot then
[11:28] <nocloud> brb
[11:28] <Romeriz> Hi all. I am just trying out Kubuntu 6.06 and I am having an issue with an ipod. I want to specify the mount point to be the same everytime.
[11:28] <neko> looks like the switch to dapper has nuked my sound - anyone have any ideas on what to try?
[11:28] <obscurite> Romeriz - I had the same problem a couple of days ago but haven't solved it yet
[11:29] <Romeriz> obscurite - Well at least I am not alone.
[11:29] <iNiku> serenity: also, could you go to a VT (ctrl-alt-f1 if you're running X now) and do a 'startx -- -logverbose 5 :1', then pastebin /var/log/Xorg.1.log?
[11:29] <obscurite> neko - does kmix show your master volume as non zero?
[11:29] <iNiku> serenity: it may appear to lock up on you, just ctrl-alt-backspace to kill it
[11:30] <iNiku> serenity: umm... so where did those modelines in your xorg.conf come from?
[11:31] <neko> obscurite: kmix is set to 100%
[11:31] <serenity> iNiku: given my the nvidia drivers, just the one 1024x768 was done be me
[11:31] <iNiku> serenity: um... try this:
[11:31] <Ozzzzy> anyone here migrated from Mandriva?
[11:31] <linuxmonkey> wassup
[11:31] <iNiku> serenity: 1. comment out all the modelines
[11:31] <neko> I have two sets of speakers (one connected to the optical output, one to the analogue) and both have gone silent too
[11:31] <serenity> iNiku: is a a problem that there a 2 modelines for 1024?
[11:32] <iNiku> serenity: 2. in the screen section, where it says modes "1024x768@60" etc, replace that line with modes "1024x768"
[11:32] <obscurite> neko - interesting thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182921
[11:32] <LinuxNewbie3> I am loving Kubuntu :D
[11:32] <neko> wait, I got something from the optical
[11:33] <obscurite> neko - if you beat your computer hard enough it will eventually make sounds
[11:33] <zblach> hi. i'm wondering if anyone can help me setup something
[11:33] <zblach> it's unusual, but it should be pretty quick
[11:33] <obscurite> zblach - "something" is pretty advanced ;) anyone know how to operate "something"?
[11:33] <iNiku> serenity: see what happens then
[11:33] <neko> damn thing had reset the IEC958 Loop switch
[11:34] <zblach> what I want to do, is back up a partition every two weeks to a dvd
[11:34] <zblach> the partition is 4.5 gb, and i've just discovered kcron
[11:34] <zblach> how to?
[11:34] <Admiral> maybe one of you can help me with this
[11:34] <neko> that just leaves the question of what's happened to the analogue sound
[11:35] <Admiral> there was an installalation error when i first installed ubuntu
[11:35] <iNiku> serenity: also, ignore the starx thing for now, we need to get your xorg.conf fixed first
[11:35] <iNiku> startx*
[11:35] <Admiral> when it was booting for the first time, it couldn't configure gstreamer0.8
[11:35] <azathoth> anyone here tried installing ktorrent 2.0b1 in dapper yet? i'm getting a nasty bug trying to install
[11:35] <serenity> brb restarting x
[11:36] <Admiral> so not i can't use dpkg or apt-get install or anything
[11:36] <azathoth> dpkg: error processing ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb (--install):
[11:36] <azathoth>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package kdelibs-data
[11:36] <azathoth> anyone got a quick fix?
[11:36] <Admiral> delete the desktop icon
[11:36] <obscurite> zblach - since you have to go and insert the DVD every time manually you may as well do the whole thing manually. scripting it will only save you the trouble of selecting a folder in your burning program
[11:36] <equinoxeB> there's a newer version of gstreamer
[11:36] <Admiral> no thats not the problem
[11:36] <azathoth> there's no desktop icon for it
[11:36] <Admiral> the problem is that i cant install anything
[11:37] <Admiral> !locale
[11:37] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Admiral
[11:37] <obscurite> zblach - you're trying to use a chainsaw to trip your hedges ;)
[11:37] <iNiku> Admiral: what error does it give you?
[11:37] <Admiral> no your no help bot
[11:37] <obscurite> s/trip/trim/
[11:37] <LinuxNewbie3> How can I set Firefox as my default web browser? So saves links open in it from the desktop
[11:37] <zblach> obscurite: apt analogy. what would you recommend to do?
[11:37] <serenity> back
[11:37] <Admiral> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:37] <iNiku> serenity: how does it look?
[11:38] <iNiku> Admiral: well, it tells you what to do right there
[11:38] <obscurite> zblach - i'd just do it manually, until they come out with a sub-$100 dvd changing robot ;)
[11:38] <serenity> iNiku: now it really fuck up
[11:38] <Admiral> !paste
[11:38] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:38] <iNiku> serenity: can you pastebin your current xorg.conf?
[11:38] <Admiral> wait, that doesnt fix it
[11:38] <Admiral> i tried that already
[11:38] <zblach> i don't really mind a 'please insert backup dvd' message.
[11:38] <iNiku> Admiral: what does it say when you do that?
[11:38] <iNiku> serenity: and please explain how is it fscked up now?
[11:39] <obscurite> zblach - you're literally only going to save yourself the trouble of opening the burning program and selecting a folder
[11:39] <Admiral> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15038
[11:39] <obscurite> zblach - if you want unattended backups, use an external hard drive or file server
[11:39] <zblach> obscurite: it also serves as a reminder. i'm notoriously bad at remembering these things
[11:40] <iNiku> Admiral: um... this is right after installing dapper?
[11:40] <Admiral> its right after installing ubuntu
[11:40] <Admiral> the only way i was able to get X to start was to update to dapper
[11:40] <serenity> iNiku: f%(/% beause the only possible resolutions: 800x600 or 1152x768 and only 55hz
[11:40] <obscurite> zblach - for $200 you can probably get yourself a decent external hard drive that can hold months worth of backups. over a year you would save yourself 26 x however many minutes it takes to find a DVD insert it, put it somewhere, etc
[11:40] <LinuxNewbie3> How can I set Firefox as my default web browser? So saves links open in it from the desktop
[11:41] <iNiku> Admiral: you're missing some files required to generate locales
[11:41] <Admiral> how can i fix that?
[11:41] <obscurite> zblach - not as reliable as dozens of indivudual DVDs but if it gets broken, who cares, it's just a backup. okay - no more backup talk. back to kubuntu talk ;)
[11:41] <zblach> obscurite: also very true. thanks.
[11:41] <iNiku> serenity: please pastebin your current xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log
[11:42] <iNiku> Admiral: please explain what exactly you did
[11:42] <Admiral> i was installing ubuntu
[11:42] <iNiku> Admiral: you say this is right after installing ubuntu but you also say you updated to dapper?
[11:42] <serenity> iNiku: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1370/
[11:42] <Admiral> after it set up all packages and asked me to reboot, i did. then while it set up the packages, it failed on gstreamer0.8
[11:43] <iNiku> serenity: um, that's the same as before?
[11:43] <Admiral> i couldn't get X to start, so what i did was update to dapper from the terminal
[11:43] <Admiral> but dpkg is still giving me errors
[11:43] <ljimmy> can anyone tell me why, whenever i try to delete certain unneeded apps, synaptic warns me that it must remove kubuntu-desktop... can anyone help me?
[11:43] <chris_____> hrm
[11:43] <serenity> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1371/
[11:44] <obscurite> ljimmy - some of those things are dependencies of the kubuntu-desktop package. they belong to it.
[11:44] <serenity> iNiku: before it was 1024x768 @60hz
[11:44] <iNiku> Admiral: hmm, okay. wait, that's a weird looking locale anyway
[11:44] <M00N3D> Anybody know where I can get the DIVX codecs for any/all of the Kubuntu/Xubuntu video players?
[11:44] <Admiral> MUMPS
[11:44] <ljimmy> it seems that these packages should be able to be separate from the main program
[11:44] <troy> yikes, noise is nuts in #ubuntu right now - maybe I'll have better luck here.... trying to install flash onto amd64 (dapper, kubuntu) without chroot if possible... if I force the installer to run on amd64, will konq be able to recognize/use the flash libs even though they are 32bit?
[11:44] <serenity> iNiku: seems, that x.org is ignoring just the modeline i created
[11:44] <obscurite> ljimmy - if you want to have a minimal setup without all those packages you'll have to use something else like debian. kubuntu requires a base system that includes many packages you might not need.
[11:45] <iNiku> serenity: please comment out all the modelines and change modes to "1024x768" so I can see what the X server is autodetecting
[11:45] <iNiku> serenity: it's ignoring your modeline because you're not telling it to use it
[11:45] <iNiku> you have 1024x768@60 on the modes line
[11:45] <obscurite> ljimmy - you can prevent anything you don't need from running (and thus taking up memory and CPU) but you can't remove the software from your hard drive if you want to keep the package integrity intact.
[11:45] <serenity> comment out with #?
[11:45] <Hawkwind> Where can I find some good information on PLF and Kubuntu ?
[11:45] <neko> hmm, Konqueror has started opening new windows with the Navigation Panel open - anyone know where to switch that behavior off?
[11:45] <Hawkwind> I have one URL, but it's in French and I can't read all of it
[11:45] <iNiku> serenity: but I would still like to know what it's autodetecting if you don't specify anything
[11:46] <M00N3D> Anybody know where I can get the DIVX codecs for any/all of the Kubuntu/Xubuntu video players?
[11:46] <iNiku> serenity: because you shouldn't need any modelines to begin with
[11:46] <ljimmy> thanks obscurite
[11:46] <iNiku> serenity: yep, comment with #
[11:46] <Admiral> M00N3D: check out mumps
[11:46] <Admiral> that might work
[11:46] <obscurite> ljimmy - you're welcome.
[11:46] <serenity> iNiku: and change the modeline"1024x..." line to what?
[11:47] <iNiku> serenity: modes "1024x768"
[11:47] <Hawkwind> !plf
[11:47] <ubotu> from memory, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[11:47] <Hawkwind> Hmmmm
[11:47] <Hawkwind> Is there not something for PLF in English ?
[11:47] <LinuxNewbie3> equinoxeB: Thanks
[11:48] <neko> Hawkwind: that link?
[11:48] <Hawkwind> neko: A lot of that link is in French
[11:49] <LinuxNewbie3> Now I got to slowly configure Linux. and my new Applications
[11:49] <neko> Hawkwind: almost all of it is in english here
[11:49] <LinuxNewbie3> Can someone give me the URL to that Windows to Linux Program List ?
[11:49] <serenity> iNiku: like that http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1372/ ?
[11:49] <iNiku> Admiral: for some reason it's trying to generate a locale for a language that doesn't exist
[11:49] <askinsonhecesi> I m new in ubuntu. is there any person who will help me? (sorry for my english)
[11:49] <Admiral> Inu
[11:49] <iNiku> Admiral: there's no "en", should be "en_US" or something like that
[11:49] <Admiral> iNiku: i'm removeing locale and reinstalling
[11:49] <iNiku> serenity: um, no
[11:49] <LinuxNewbie3> First I better backup Linux
[11:50] <iNiku> serenity: the modes line is in the screen section
[11:50] <serenity> k
[11:50] <Hawkwind> neko: Well the links and all aren't in English here
[11:50] <LinuxNewbie3> All my editing and programs etc etc is un HOME right ?
[11:50] <iNiku> serenity: you have modes<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in there now, please replace that with modes "1024x768"
[11:50] <iNiku> serenity: the whole line, that is
[11:51] <Admiral> wait
[11:51] <Hawkwind> neko: I guess the links have nothing else to do with PLF stuff so all I need is that main page
[11:51] <Admiral> i did a sudo dpkg -configure -a
[11:51] <Admiral> and now its doing something
[11:51] <neko> Hawkwind: some links to other parts of the site aren't, but that page itself is
[11:51] <serenity> iNiku: and no commenting out in the monitor section?
[11:52] <iNiku> serenity: you need to comment out all the modelines there
[11:52] <serenity> k
[11:52] <neko> anyone here know where to switch off the new behaviour in Konqueror?
[11:52] <Admiral> i think its working now, it asked me about keymaps
[11:52] <Hawkwind> neko: I'm just trying to find my way around.  Been a Mandriva user for 4+ years and have Kubuntu installed on a spare box and loving it.  Thinking of making a permanent switch :)
[11:52] <iNiku> serenity: show me the result of this on pastebin before you try it :)
[11:53] <neko> Hawkwind: I was in your position a few years back myself - you'd never get me back to mandrake or whatever they're calling themselves now ;o)
[11:53] <Admiral> yup i think i got it
[11:54] <Hawkwind> neko: Hah.  That's definitely encouraging words.  I just need to learn the basics of the *Ubuntu ways and how they do things and I'll be set.  I did get E17 compiled on it from CVS last night so that's a big big plus
[11:54] <serenity> iNiku: that's for u   http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1373/
[11:55] <iNiku> serenity: you still have one modeline uncommented
[11:55] <simp> hello, a question where can i set the root password in kubuntu?
[11:56] <simp> i need it for using ctrl+alt+F1.F2 etc...
[11:56] <iNiku> serenity: and you didn't replace the whole modes line like I said, but that's probably okay
[11:56] <serenity> iNiku: just saw it, but all other is ok?
[11:56] <ljimmy> simp: did u just install kubuntu or something?
[11:56] <simp> yes i just did install kubuntu
[11:56] <iNiku> serenity: yeah, give it a try
[11:57] <simp> i'm use to suse and lately i used ubuntu but i thought it would be nice to have KDE ljimmy
[11:57] <ljimmy> simp: your root pass should be the same as your primary user's
[11:57] <iNiku> ljimmy: er, no
[11:57] <ljimmy> whoever the first user to sign up was
[11:57] <simp> it isnt
[11:57] <iNiku> there is no root password in ubuntu by default
[11:57] <simp> yeap
[11:57] <ljimmy> oh
[11:57] <simp> you have to set it
[11:57] <iNiku> you can set one by doing a "sudo passwd"
[11:57] <simp> ok
[11:58] <simp> in gnome there was a easy way to do it
[11:58] <simp> without terminal
[11:58] <simp> ok thank you :)
[11:58] <Shuriken> there is no need to set a root password in ubuntu !
[11:58] <ljimmy> just edit /etc/passwd
[11:58] <iNiku> simp: why didn't you just install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu?
[11:58] <iNiku> ljimmy: that's wrong too
[11:58] <ljimmy> fine i give up
[11:58] <iNiku> ljimmy: first, the passwords are not in /etc/passwd, they are in /etc/shadow
[11:58] <serenity> iNiku: my ears did not bleed anymore
[11:58] <ljimmy> :(
[11:58] <serenity> ears=eyes
[11:59] <ljimmy> iNiku: i have all my passwds in etc/passwd
[11:59] <iNiku> ljimmy: second, they are encrypted so it's a little difficult to edit it manually
[11:59] <iNiku> ljimmy: on ubuntu? that's strange, shadow should be enabled by default
[11:59] <iNiku> serenity: that means it works? :)
[11:59] <serenity> iNiku: oh my god, yes. Thank you so much
[12:00] <iNiku> serenity: cool! I'm still wondering where those modelines came from
[12:00] <serenity> iNiku: perhaps the nvidia-installer put them in
[12:00] <iNiku> serenity: you really don't need modelines these days except for some really special cases, it's all autodetected these days
[12:00] <iNiku> serenity: it doesn't
[12:00] <iNiku> serenity: at least not here
[12:01] <serenity> iNiku: i love "...these day..."
[12:01] <iNiku> serenity: anyway... there's one more thing you should do
[12:01] <iNiku> on the modes line, get rid of all the @XX parts
[12:02] <iNiku> the @XX is specifying the refresh rate for that mode and there's no need to enforce that, you should let X pick the best rate your graphics card and monitor can do for each resolution
[12:02] <iNiku> like you just did for 1024x768
[12:02] <serenity> so there is only one entry: modes "1024x768"
[12:03] <iNiku> serenity: well, that means you'll only have that resolution available
[12:03] <serenity> i only need one
[12:03] <iNiku> serenity: if you have several different modes there, you can switch between them with ctrl-alt-<numpad +> and ctrl-alt-<numpad ->
[12:03] <XVampireX> Someone release kopete 0.12 in the repos!
[12:04] <iNiku> serenity: but if you only need one mode, then it's fine to have only that on the modes line
[12:04] <ljimmy> could someone pls visit http://www.jwillows.com and tell me what you see
[12:04] <zblach> anyone have experience setting up dapper on a HP laptop?


[01:41] <djbeirut> hi.. i have the latest lubuntu installed. and i am having a problem with usb devices not being assigned to ttyUSB device, any help or sugestions would be greatky appriciated!
[01:42] <wxl> djbeirut: what usb device(s) and what device file are they being assigned to?
[01:43] <djbeirut> wx1 it's a card reader called IDBridge CT30 lsusb shows: Bus 002 Device 006: ID 08e6:3437 Gemplus GemPC Twin SmartCard Reader
[01:43] <djbeirut> i am not sure what you mean with device file being assigned to or how to find that out.
[01:45] <wxl> djbeirut: so look under /dev/bus/usb/002
[01:45] <wxl> djbeirut: it should be /dev/bus/usb/002/006
[01:46] <djbeirut> crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 189, 133 Jun 28 03:38 006
[01:46] <djbeirut> the file is empty though
[01:46] <wxl> do you have anything plugged into it?
[01:47] <djbeirut> yes.. i have a card in it.
[01:47] <wxl> are you just trying to access teh card?
[01:48] <djbeirut> yeah.. it's a card for a norweigan online gaming thing. looks like good old big simcard
[01:48] <wxl> hm
[01:48] <wxl> wonder if the issue isn't driver related
[01:49] <djbeirut> donno... found this though https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/foundations-bugs/2014-March/184055.html
[01:49] <wxl> try doing lsusb -t
[01:50] <djbeirut> http://pastebin.com/VgZg1BiD
[01:51] <wxl> note line 6
[01:51] <wxl> it's not using a driver
[01:51] <wxl> which is to say it won't work XD
[01:51] <wxl> you expect this to be a usb to serial device?
[01:52] <djbeirut> yes
[01:53] <wxl> you might want to google that device id and figure out what driver to use
[01:53] <wxl> IF there is one
[01:53] <holstein> or, ask the creators of the device for linux support.. if they didnt promise it would work, it may not.. its challenging when things done just work "out of the box"
[01:54] <wxl> um, yeah, that's a big ole maybe
[01:54] <wxl> anyways headed home
[01:54] <wxl> good luck
[01:54] <djbeirut> thanks man! :)
[01:55] <holstein> well, its probably not going to happen, but that is who definitively can support the device
[01:55] <holstein> all of linux and ubuntu and lubuntu are open and available for them to provide support..
[01:55] <djbeirut> they said it is supposed to work with linux though
[01:55] <holstein> djbeirut: ok.. what did who say, specifically? are you meeting the requirements?
[01:56] <djbeirut> buypass said that.. the ones who sent out the card reader to me in the first place.
[01:57] <holstein> djbeirut: share what they said, with the requirements, and any information on a driver they provide.. id be glad to look at that
[01:57] <holstein> though, ideally, if they provide support, i would ask for the support they provide for the thing they make
[01:58] <djbeirut> they say nothing about the driver.
[01:58] <holstein> djbeirut: ?
[01:58] <holstein> djbeirut: ok.. what does who say, specifically?
[01:59] <djbeirut> buyoass says that the cardreader which they sent to me is supposed to work with linux. they didn't say how but they said that it is compatible
[02:00] <holstein> djbeirut: can you please quote whatever who said?
[02:00] <djbeirut> http://support.gemalto.com/index.php?id=pc_usb_tr_and_pc_twin
[02:00] <holstein> djbeirut: if they say its supported in a certain kernel version, that helps
[02:00] <djbeirut> this is from the manufacture website
[02:01] <holstein> djbeirut: the link says "drivers"
[02:01] <holstein> http://support.gemalto.com/index.php?id=pc_usb_tr_and_pc_twin#linux
[02:01] <djbeirut> yeah from the manufacture yes. .not buypass
[02:01] <holstein> TIPS: Use the package manager from your specific Linux distribution to search for the libccid library and install it.
[02:01] <holstein> djbeirut: have you done that? ^^
[02:02] <holstein> !info libccid
[02:02] <holstein> djbeirut: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libddid
[02:02] <holstein> djbeirut: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libccid
[02:03] <holstein> ^^ sorry for the typo.. but, that should install the drivers that they say the device needs for you to comply with the requirements
[02:03] <djbeirut> just did that..
[02:03] <djbeirut> looks a bit different now under lsusb -t
[02:03] <holstein> djbeirut: that should install what you need.. not sure if its a module that needs a reboot, or what
[02:04] <djbeirut> http://pastebin.com/PEjvKNKT
[02:04] <djbeirut> i'm rebooting just in case
[02:05] <djbeirut> rebooted.. still no ttyUSB
[02:06] <holstein> djbeirut: i dont read anything at the site that makes me think that should be there.. what are you expecting ? and why? what is the goal?
[02:12] <djbeirut> holstein because i'm trying to setup this: http://www.streamboard.tv/wiki/OSCam/en/Config/oscam.server#device
[02:13] <djbeirut> and it is asking for device parameters which looks something like this: device = /dev/ttyUSB0
[02:13] <holstein> djbeirut: i would *not* jump to that
[02:14] <holstein> djbeirut: seems like you could ask a more simpler question with a more simple scnario.. i would want to know if the thing is working.. and being supported by the driver you literally just installed
[02:14] <holstein> *then* when the device is working, you can move on to the other parts..
[02:15] <holstein> the "sreamboard" may not be aware of what gets labeled, and how it gets labeled..
[02:15] <djbeirut> i don't know if the device is working or not.. just installed it and can't test it. but it looks better now since lsusb -t says that it uses a driver which it didn't earlier
[02:16] <djbeirut> "sreamboard" =
[02:16] <holstein> djbeirut: you *can* test it, though.. and should, and im suggesting by a simpler method that what you linkede
[02:16] <djbeirut> ?
[02:16] <holstein> linked*
[02:16] <holstein> djbeirut: sreamboard is a typo for streamboard..
[02:17] <holstein> djbeirut: its not a streamboard device.. so, they may not know how the labels work... if you are just blinly trusting that they may be correct..
[05:03] <ianorlin> join #lubuntu-offtopic
[09:49] <onla> anye good and cheap wlan adapter that works well or out of the box on lubuntu that I could buy from dealextreme.com
[11:57] <phillw> onla: there's a good cheap one you can get direct from china :)
[11:58] <phillw> 802.IIN wifi usb adaptor
[11:59] <phillw> (amazon have it from various people), takes ~ 1 week to arrive (I have several now that I know they are cheap and work out of the box).
[12:02] <melodie> hello phillw !
[12:03] <phillw> hi melodie :)
[12:08] <onla> I buy this. cheap and lot of reviews and works on linux out of the box for ppl, so I guess would be same with lubuntuhttp://www.dx.com/p/ultra-mini-nano-usb-2-0-802-11n-150mbps-wifi-wlan-wireless-network-adapter-48166#.U66v3HWSykA
[12:13] <phillw> onla: I get http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/251211328728?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=108&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108 as it has an ariel if you want to extend the range
[12:13] <phillw> that's about the only difference i can see :)
[12:14] <onla> I prefer dx because there are no postal fees
[12:15] <onla> oh it says psotage: free, but then some notes about outside uk
[12:15] <onla> never bought anything from ebay or amazon
[12:15] <phillw> onla: I'm sure amazon have US site :)
[12:16] <onla> http://www.dx.com/p/mini-100mw-150mbps-ieee802-11b-g-n-usb-wifi-wireless-network-adapter-w-antenna-black-117398
[12:16] <onla> I'm in finland
[12:17] <phillw> but, as mine shipped direct from china, i don't think it makes any difference where in the world you are :)
[12:17] <phillw> onla: that's the one :)
[12:46] <koell> phillw: :3
[15:54] <McErroneous> Hi, I am looking to disable ipv6 in lubuntu, but i can't find a ipv6-modul in the output of "lsmod" , like in ubuntu... . What do i have to do to disable ipv6 on reboot ?
[16:04] <phillw> Lucid-Gnu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/346126/how-to-disable-ipv6-on-ubuntu
[16:08] <Lucid-Gnu> phillw: Is IPv6 firmly compiled into the lubuntu kernel ?
[16:10] <phillw> Lucid-Gnu: afaik, it is a module
[16:12] <Lucid-Gnu> phillw: then ti should work like in ubuntu, if you do "lsmod |grep ipv6" it is going to list the ipv6-module, not so in lubuntu.. afaik..
[16:13] <Lucid-Gnu> in ubuntu i would disable ipv6 by peventing the module beeing loaded...., by modifying /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf <- "blacklist ipv6" (add to last line maybe )
[16:16] <phillw> Lucid-Gnu: try what they say at that link. phillw@piglet:/etc$ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6
[16:16] <phillw> 0
[16:17] <Lucid-Gnu> but i found , this doesn't work in lubuntu... , so my guess the ipv6-module has a different name in lubuntu, or may its a pack of moduled beeing loaded (without all modules being mentioned) or ipv6 is firmly compiled into lubuntu Kernel...
[16:17] <phillw> so, mine is not disabled
[16:17] <Lucid-Gnu> did it...
[16:17] <Lucid-Gnu> k..., sorry..
[16:18] <phillw> networking is looked after by 'core' it's not a flavour specific thing, so I've no idea as to where any difference has come from.
[16:19] <Lucid-Gnu> hmm.., i would like to know, too...
[16:21] <phillw> the answers on askubuntu are using sysctl.conf and not modprobe (and that is for ubuntu, not lubuntu). Therefore, I'd be inclided to go with that solution.
[16:23] <Lucid-Gnu> you know..., i am a oldschool type person..., i like to break things down a littlebit, instead of just doing what i am told... to do..
[16:23] <Lucid-Gnu> for the sake of my own understanding...
[16:24] <Lucid-Gnu> so i am a disturbing person i guess..., i like to question a lot...
[16:25] <phillw> Lucid-Gnu: have a read of http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/en/man8/sysctl.8.html
[16:25] <phillw> That makes it a lot clearer to me :)
[16:32] <Lucid-Gnu> "sysctl -a |wc -l" shows there about 740 different values that can be configured by sysctl..
[16:33] <Lucid-Gnu> wc = "word count"
[16:34] <Lucid-Gnu> "-l"option shows number of lines..
[16:36] <Lucid-Gnu> Anybody knows how to switch from one tab to another in LX-Terminal (Keyboard-Shortcut) ?
[16:45] <McErroneous> okay, i found it, to switch between opentabs (LX-Terminal) press "ALT+Nr" (of the TAB)
[16:46] <McErroneous> puhhh, was about to change the distro again...
[16:47] <McErroneous> or install another terminal....
[16:49] <phillw> ipV4 and ipV6 support is installed when the kernel is compiled.
[16:52] <phillw> the config file for the kernel is 7635 lines long >:o
[17:01] <McErroneous> ubuntu source code  (10.04) has more then 10 million lines...
[17:02] <McErroneous> DVD...
[17:02] <McErroneous> i think...
[17:03] <holstein> McErroneous: 10.04?
[17:10] <phillw> McErroneous: that file, is just the config file for making the kernel, not the release :P I'm currently learning thjings about kernel :)
[17:13] <McErroneous> to verify number the number "ubuntu-source-code lines" you could do something like "wc -l ./Ubuntu-DVD.iso" i guess...
[17:13] <McErroneous> the amount of numbers in the
[17:15] <holstein> verify the # of lines?
[18:21] <TeraJL> hi there, i've installed lubuntu then when i installed nvidia recommended drivers my screen gets all black (after flashing the login terminal)
[18:25] <TeraJL> i can't even change TTY, is there any way to access the lubuntu terminal from the livecd?
[18:27] <sydney> TeraJL: What do you mean? The live cd's terminal or the installed os'es terminal?
[18:28] <phillw> TeraJL: I don't have nvidia, have a read of http://askubuntu.com/questions/325971/black-screen-after-booting-after-installed-nvidia-drivers
[18:29] <TeraJL> sydney: i can't access others tty, it's all black and nothing works, i wanted to know if is there any way to atleast access the terminal from live cd or from the pc, so i can uninstall nvidia drivers
[18:30] <phillw> TeraJL: also http://askubuntu.com/questions/431244/black-screen-after-login-nvidia-driver-installation may help
[18:31] <TeraJL> but Ctrl+Alt+F1 is not working
[18:31] <TeraJL> on live cd it works
[18:32] <sydney> TeraJL: Ask your question on #ubuntu
[18:33] <phillw> I *think* you have to interrupt the boot, before the driver gets loaded
[18:33] <TeraJL> i'm asking
[18:33] <sydney> TeraJL: oops,i just saw that. :D
[18:35] <phillw> TeraJL: how comfortable are you with terminal
[18:37] <phillw> I can get your 'machine' mounted using the LiveCD and then you can use whatever instructions you wish to apt-get remove <your nvidea driver> is that okay for you?
[18:43] <TeraJL> im comfortable with the terminal but i can't access it
[18:44] <TeraJL> on recovery mode when i turn on network manager it gives me two warning and freezes
[18:46] <phillw> you can use the LiveCD :D
[18:47] <phillw> if that does not boot, then something is either wrong with the CD or something is very wrong with your computer....
[19:09] <rafaellaguna> hello
[19:56] <TeraJL> on the display settings i only get a very small resoltuion and can't increase it
[20:00] <rafaellaguna> TeraJL, did you installed the proprietary drivers? sometimes you get more resolutions with those
[20:00] <TeraJL> i've followed this http://askubuntu.com/questions/41681/blank-screen-after-installing-nvidia-restricted-driver after my pc stopped booting
[20:01] <rafaellaguna> it's just a fix for blank screens, your system is failing on resolution, right?
[20:02] <TeraJL> yes
[20:02] <rafaellaguna> what driver are you using?
[20:02] <sgdfger> OMFG
[20:02] <sgdfger> i hacked google
[20:02] <sgdfger> click
[20:02] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:02] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:02] <sgdfger> omg
[20:02] <sgdfger> lol
[20:02] <sgdfger> cliekc
[20:02] <TeraJL> nvidia,
[20:02] <sgdfger> \argermgnjeingr
[20:02] <sgdfger> ergnin
[20:02] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:02] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:02] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:02] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:03] <sgdfger> NOW
[20:03] <sgdfger> it's gonna sissperar
[20:03] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:03] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:03] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:03] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:03] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:03] <sgdfger> help
[20:03] <rafaellaguna> plase, operator, ban it
[20:03] <phillw> got to love k-lines :)
[20:05] <TeraJL> i've install nvida drivers and i get the black screen again
[20:05] <rafaellaguna> so you can't see nothing?
[20:06] <phillw> TeraJL: does your LiveCD boot? you never replied....
[20:09] <popey> hello!
[20:09] <popey> Does lubuntu ship with zram on by default?
[20:11] <phillw> popey: yes
[20:12] <popey> thanks phillw
[20:12] <phillw> well, with desktop installer, it is enabled throughout the installer. not turned on for the alternate installer, but is turned on for lubuntu desktop :)
[20:13] <TeraJL> the livecd boots and the resolution is fine
[20:13] <rafaellaguna> TeraJL, so using generic driver you can work?
[20:13] <TeraJL> the pc turned on now (15min later)
[20:13] <rafaellaguna> try to remove it and re-set nouveau
[20:14] <TeraJL> i've just done that
[20:14] <TeraJL> i think.. i made the first awnser (http://askubuntu.com/questions/41681/blank-screen-after-installing-nvidia-restricted-driver)
[20:14] <TeraJL> the pc is working but it seems to be taking 15min to boot
[20:14] <rafaellaguna> and with nouveau activated it lasts 15 min boot?
[20:14] <rafaellaguna> does it happen with livecd too?
[20:14] <TeraJL> nouveau is very fast booting but wrong resolution
[20:15] <rafaellaguna> maybe you should use the nvidia edge ppa
[20:16] <rafaellaguna> which version of Lubuntu do you have?
[20:16] <TeraJL> 14.04
[20:16] <TeraJL> just installed it
[20:16] <rafaellaguna> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[20:17] <rafaellaguna> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[20:17] <rafaellaguna> This will install the very last build, maybe it has a fix
[20:17] <rafaellaguna> nvidia is really tricky
[20:17] <djbeirut> hi.. i can't make my card reader map to ttyUSB. the driver is installed and i can read from the card using pcsc_scan. any help would be appreciated.
[20:18] <TeraJL> its not being easy to convine my friend to use linux now xD
[20:18] <rafaellaguna> trust me, this is not normal ;)
[20:18] <rafaellaguna> Linux is very much friendly now
[20:19] <TeraJL> i've used arch / ubuntu / elementary / manjaro and opensuse on the last 2 years, on the exact same pc he is using and never had this problem
[20:19] <rafaellaguna> convinced a few friends, no problems at all, except a really bad taste using a graphics program, LOL
[20:20] <rafaellaguna> I'm pretty sure the Edge drivers will solve it
[20:21] <rafaellaguna> and you can "tweak" some things with the nvidia-settings utility and force more resolutions. I did it with my crappy monitor, and set it to 2600 (ugly result, btw), butthis was impossible with this tool
[20:25] <TeraJL> he is installing an older version, if it works its fine for me.. but if it matters , it is removing nvidia-331 and installing nvidia-304
[20:25] <rafaellaguna> and do what I say, play with nvidia-settings, and don't forget to set vsync to NOPE
[20:26] <rafaellaguna> TeraJL, you may need to install nvidia-settings as a standalone package, it's not included with the drivers
[22:19] <Ghark> Hey. I'm having some trouble with Samba. On both my desktop and laptop I've marked my 'public' folder for sharing, will full access to everyone, and set their permissions so that anyone can view content, change content and access content. However when I try to access my desktop's public folder from my laptop (or visa versa) I get a dialouge saying 'Failed to mount Windows share: Permission denied'. What have I done wrong?
[22:41] <djbeirut> -
[23:27] <phillw> djbeirut: I do not have such  a device, but suggest you look at http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?12,4546
[23:28] <djbeirut> problem solved. thank you :)
[23:29] <phillw> djbeirut: always good to have a happy outcome :)