[01:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gcc-13-cross-mipsen [arm64] (noble-proposed/universe) [2+c1] (no packageset)
[02:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gcc-13-cross-mipsen [amd64] (noble-proposed/universe) [2+c1] (no packageset)
[02:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gcc-13-cross-mipsen [ppc64el] (noble-proposed/universe) [2+c1] (no packageset)
[05:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-13-cross-mipsen [amd64] (noble-proposed) [2+c1]
[05:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-13-cross-mipsen [ppc64el] (noble-proposed) [2+c1]
[05:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-13-cross-mipsen [arm64] (noble-proposed) [2+c1]
[07:03] <LocutusOfBorg> llvm-toolchain-18 didn't get autosyncd... why?
[07:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: llvm-toolchain-18 (noble-proposed/primary) [1:18.1.0~rc1-1]
[07:04] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, ^^
[07:30] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: you know where the logs are to check the answer to "why"? https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/auto-sync/
[07:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted llvm-toolchain-18 [sync] (noble-proposed) [1:18.1.0~rc1-1]
[08:21] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, I see no mentioned, I checked yesterday night and today...
[08:21] <vorlon> fair enough
[08:21] <vorlon> and you were able to sync it so it wasn't an importer issue
[08:21] <vorlon> (launchpad importer I mean)
[08:22] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, removed it from release yesterday due to bad versioning, at the same time I uploaded in Debian
[08:22] <LocutusOfBorg> I checked 3 times auto sync logs, and also this morning I found stuff uploaded after llvm was syncd, but llvm not even taken in consideration
[08:22] <LocutusOfBorg> this is why I asked here
[08:23] <vorlon> ack.  puzzling, but I don't think I can prioritize trying to debug that right now.  Making a mental note of it though in case we find more such issues
[08:23] <LocutusOfBorg> I would have expected it being mentioned in "hey llvm removed from release, not syncing" or something similar, at least giving some hints
[08:23] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm just wondering how many we aren't detecting :)
[08:23] <vorlon> indeed
[08:35] <LocutusOfBorg> btw I'm following your work on time_t in Debian, it's incredible
[08:37] <vorlon> it's been a while since we've had to do one of these in Debian.  the last one was certainly before salsa existed
[08:37] <vorlon> and whatever tooling was used at the time, if it was posted to alioth, is probably long lost
[08:55] <fossfreedom_> hi ubuntu-release - is the 22.04.4 release date known? Was looking here but the .4 and .5 dates are not published as yet. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[09:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (jammy-proposed) [2.765.38]
[09:18] <vorlon> fossfreedom_: February 22 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-schedule/23906
[09:19] <vorlon> (we're a bit behind, sil2100 is driving this point release and has been ill)
[09:20] <sil2100> fossfreedom_: oh, good catch, guess we missed updating that wiki page when setting the date in stone
[09:20] <vorlon> I don't recall the convention for updating https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases, if we're expected to do that when the target date is decided or only after released?
[09:20] <sil2100> ...might actually be the latter
[09:20] <sil2100> Since there's the release e-mail link
[09:21] <sil2100> And it is the 'Current' list of releases
[10:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (focal-proposed/main) [2.664.51 => 2.664.52] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[11:42] <LocutusOfBorg> still slow britney?
[11:42] <LocutusOfBorg> 	09:46:25.log	2024-02-01 11:38	65M
[11:42] <LocutusOfBorg> wow, this is what I call a huge log
[11:46] <LocutusOfBorg> E: [2024-02-01T11:38:19+0000] - Failure to fetch<EMAIL_ADDRESS>HTTP Error 404: Not Found
[11:46] <LocutusOfBorg> interesting, full of "failed to fetch"
[11:46] <LocutusOfBorg> maybe somebody can kill britney?
[11:48] <LocutusOfBorg> interesting I can grab the artifacts manually
[12:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: zfs-linux (focal-proposed/main) [0.8.3-1ubuntu12.16 => 0.8.3-1ubuntu12.17] (core, kernel-dkms)
[12:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: zfs-linux (jammy-proposed/main) [2.1.5-1ubuntu6~22.04.2 => 2.1.5-1ubuntu6~22.04.3] (core, kernel-dkms)
[12:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: zfs-linux (mantic-proposed/main) [2.2.0-0ubuntu1~23.10.1 => 2.2.0-0ubuntu1~23.10.2] (core, kernel-dkms)
[12:52] <sil2100> phew, looks like my fixup for britney did the thing, I start seeing packages migrating at least
[13:25] <LocutusOfBorg> [UPLOADING] Uploading build on bos02-s390x-002
[13:25] <LocutusOfBorg> Finished 50 minutes ago (took 4 hours, 53 minutes, 55.1 seconds)
[13:25] <LocutusOfBorg> wow something really big is going uploaded?
[13:27] <LocutusOfBorg> please kill this build https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/27732709
[13:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: llvm-toolchain-18 [s390x] (noble-proposed/universe) [1:18.1.0~rc1-1] (i386-whitelist)
[14:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kdump-tools (jammy-proposed/main) [1:1.6.10ubuntu2.1 => 1:1.6.10ubuntu2.2] (core)
[14:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kdump-tools (mantic-proposed/main) [1:1.8.1ubuntu1 => 1:1.8.1ubuntu1.1] (core)
[15:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: llvm-toolchain-18 [i386] (noble-proposed/universe) [1:18.1.0~rc1-1] (i386-whitelist)
[15:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: llvm-toolchain-18 [armhf] (noble-proposed/universe) [1:18.1.0~rc1-1] (i386-whitelist)
[15:39] <tchavadar> sil2100: can you have look at bug 2037407 to see if it is ok to approve for jammy/mantic? We have shared the missing test results for the ZCU boards
[15:39] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Bug 2037407 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu Mantic) "[SRU] Add support for AMD-Xilinx Kria KD240" [Undecided, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2037407
[15:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: llvm-toolchain-18 [amd64] (noble-proposed/universe) [1:18.1.0~rc1-1] (i386-whitelist)
[16:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: llvm-toolchain-18 [ppc64el] (noble-proposed/universe) [1:18.1.0~rc1-1] (i386-whitelist)
[16:42] <jbicha> andersson1234: there are still missing autopkgtest results for noble, if you weren't already aware
[16:42] <jbicha> I was watching https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/r/rust-sequoia-wot/noble/ppc64el & retried a test a few times this week before realizing
[16:42] <jbicha> that the test must have passed because the packages migrated
[16:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: wsl-pro-service (noble-proposed/primary) [0.1]
[16:54] <bdmurray> jbicha: the database is being repopulated. britney has been modified to check the results in swift directly until the database is complete.
[16:54] <jbicha> ok. I just didn't want to not say anything if this detail wasn't known yet :)
[16:56] <bdmurray> jbicha: it is known and written about in the discourse status page
[16:57] <jbicha> thank you! https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/autopkgtest-service/34490
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: glib2.0 [s390x] (noble-proposed/main) [2.79.1-1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: glib2.0 [amd64] (noble-proposed/main) [2.79.1-1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[17:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: glib2.0 [i386] (noble-proposed/main) [2.79.1-1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[17:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: glib2.0 [ppc64el] (noble-proposed/main) [2.79.1-1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[17:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: glib2.0 [armhf] (noble-proposed/main) [2.79.1-1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[17:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: glib2.0 [arm64] (noble-proposed/main) [2.79.1-1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[17:49] <blackboxsw> ahasenack: last week I saw the rejection of cloud-init SRU upload in your conversation with aciba per a regression found prior to the upload being accepted in proposed during cloud-init's current SRU https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/2045582
[17:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2045582 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Mantic) "sru cloud-init (23.4 update) Focal, Jammy, and Mantic" [Undecided, Fix Committed]
[17:49] <ahasenack> hm, yes?
[17:50] <blackboxsw> ahasenack: we have uploads queued from that day that should resolve the discovered bug lp:#2051147, but I think they may be in the wrong state/tag to get attention
[17:50] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2051147 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Mantic) "cloud-init-23.4 cannot read '- Azure' datasource_list format" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2051147
[17:50] <ahasenack> the tags don't affect the unapproved queue, just the proposed pocket
[17:51] <ahasenack> that being said, I'm not seeing cloud-init in the trello board, but I do see it in unapproved, hmm
[17:51] <ahasenack> blackboxsw: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/mantic/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=cloud-init is the one you want attention on (and on other releases too)?
[17:51] <blackboxsw> Yeah, what should have been done in this case to get attention, as I think those unapproved uploads are languishing
[17:51] <blackboxsw> ahasenack: yes please. focal.jammy too
[17:52] <ahasenack> ok, I'll take a look
[17:52] <blackboxsw> thanks a lot
[17:52] <ahasenack> it's not in the (automated) trello board, so I wouldn't have seen it
[17:52] <ahasenack> I'm guessing the automation got confused with the reject + upload to unapproved at the same-ish time
[17:52] <blackboxsw> yes something seemed fuzzy with that as you did attend to it last week, I wonder what we did incorrect
[17:52] <blackboxsw> I think so too
[17:53] <ahasenack> https://trello.com/b/XgBxtrZ9/sru is the board I'm referring to (public)
[17:53] <ahasenack> btw
[17:54] <blackboxsw> thx for the link. I'm saving it. yes I think it could have been the dance of us adding regression-proposed tags, and uploading two uploads to the unapproved queue to correctly resolve the issue before the first review came in.
[17:55] <ahasenack> only a few of us use that board, on the other hand (me, robie, mfo), so that wouldn't have imeded others from seeing the package in unapproved
[17:55] <ahasenack> but thanks for the ping, it's the right move
[17:56] <mfo> +1
[18:03] <ahasenack> blackboxsw: I have a dentist appt in a few, but I'll continue on it afterwards
[18:03] <blackboxsw> thanks. I'll watch for any pings
[18:04] <ahasenack> 4 versions
[18:04] <ahasenack> in the changes file
[18:04] <ahasenack> that will take some looking indeed
[18:23] <ahasenack> blackboxsw: so for noble you want to keep the "exit status 2 in the case of warnings" behavior? wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/2048522
[18:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2048522 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Jammy) "status breaks backwards compat with exit code 2 when recoverable errors/warnings" [Undecided, In Progress]
[18:24] <blackboxsw> ahasenack: we want to retain exit 0 in the face of warnings from cloud-init status on noble which was the original behavior in the noble release to avoid breaking scripts/people
[18:24] <ahasenack> I understand that the warning that we get in noble now is because of DEB822 and duplicated entries, and that particular issue will go away,
[18:24] <blackboxsw> so we should have a quilt patch that sets exit code to 9
[18:24] <blackboxsw> so we should have a quilt patch that sets exit code to 0
[18:25] <blackboxsw> ooops misread. on noble we want to keep exit 2. stable releases, stub it back to exit 0
[18:25] <ahasenack> what about that other case from azure, which doesn't have eject
[18:25] <ahasenack> that also produces a warning
[18:26] <ahasenack> unsure if not having eject is a bug in that image, or if it's on purpose. If the latter, then cloud-init will always produce such a warning on azure on noble
[18:26] <blackboxsw> correct, deb822 issue will go away with an update to livecd-rootfs. Azure case with a missing eject util in minimal images will be fixed in 24.1 SRU, or in our next upload to noble when the following PR lands. https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/4769
[18:26] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Pull 4769 in canonical/cloud-init "feat: prefer udev's cdrom_id -e to eject" [Open]
[18:27] <ahasenack> but won't there be another case where something not that serious will produce a warning, and break scripts?
[18:28] <ahasenack> and given the history and outcry (exaggerating a bit here :) of this issue, it sounds unlikely that we will ever SRU this change in the future (status 2 in the face of warnings, just like noble is now)
[18:28] <ahasenack> so will noble+ for ever be different?
[18:30] <blackboxsw> yes correct, noble++ will be forever different/noisy with respect to warning conditions to shed light on conditions that have been ignored for years because we can't expect people to comb through cloud-init.log to seek out warning messages. Also cloud-init status --format=json tried to categorize "recoverable_errors"(warnings) vs hard "errors" to better announce conditions affecting the integrity of the base config
[18:31] <blackboxsw> we're now treating warnings as "serious enough" that they warrant attention because some of those warnings could be due to inability to install or apply security measures or incorrect configuration leaving a system in an incorrect configuration relative to what the user-data requested.
[18:32] <blackboxsw> the eject azure case is one such security condition.
[18:32] <ahasenack> we need to be careful with SRUs to never backport that change to releases older than noble
[18:32] <blackboxsw> +1 ahasenack in this SRU please pay particular attention to the quilt patch we should have in place to eliminate that exit 2 behavior
[18:32] <ahasenack> I see it
[18:33] <blackboxsw> integration tests should have validated that condition. ack
[18:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: glib2.0 [riscv64] (noble-proposed/main) [2.79.1-1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[18:35] <blackboxsw> and yes, I agree cloud-init never wants to SRU this behavior to exit 2 from cloud-init status back into stable releases. It'd break too many users.
[18:37] <ahasenack> blackboxsw: another question
[18:37] <ahasenack> blackboxsw: mantic-proposed right now has https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/23.4-0ubuntu1~23.10.1
[18:37] <ahasenack> observe that changelog
[18:37] <ahasenack> now observe the changelog in the changes file of the new upload: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/711033413/cloud-init_23.4.2-0ubuntu0~23.10.1_source.changes
[18:38] <ahasenack> the entry for mantic-proposed's 23.4-0ubuntu1~23.10.1 was changed
[18:38] <ahasenack> refresh patches, and a list of dropped cpicks
[18:38] <ahasenack> I wasn't expecting past changelog entries to be changed
[18:39] <ahasenack> the diff: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/RtBrbhBH6n/
[18:40] <blackboxsw> ahasenack: I saw the oversight in the previous changelog entry(not accounting for cpick changes) and added `   * d/changelog: amend 23.4-0 refresh patches and dropped cherry-picks entry` to the newer changelog to account for correcting the previous changelog entry
[18:40] <ahasenack> hm, ok
[18:42] <blackboxsw> didn't want to change prior changelog entry without also providing a breadcrumb about that unexpected change to the previous d/changelog stanza. I thought we had done this one other time. I'll see if I can dig up the example
[18:46] <ahasenack> in general I'm against such things, and would be ok with a changelog entry post-documenting the missing entries from before
[18:47] <ahasenack> but in this case it's less of a problem because 23.4 never leaved proposed
[18:47] <ahasenack> left*
[18:47] <blackboxsw> https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/commit/?id=b872f680ad
[18:47] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Commit b872f68 in ubuntu/+source/cloud-init "22.4-0ubuntu2 (patches unapplied) import/22.4-0ubuntu2"
[18:47] <ahasenack> ok, dentist time, be back later
[18:48] <blackboxsw> +1 ahasenack so in future cases. we would like to just add only the new changelog entry and say X was fix in prev version Y.
[19:52] <Eickmeyer> I mentioned in #launchpad, but https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/noble/ubuntustudio/+build/572441 is definitely stuck. Not sure if there's anything anyone can do about it. Not sure it'll unclog itself.
[20:17] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: the only thing we can do about it is kill it; and it's amd64 so it *shouldn't* be stuck at upload stage due to long queues in the pipe across the ocean, but I don't know.  I defer to launchpad unless what you want me to do is kill it
[20:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted glib2.0 [amd64] (noble-proposed) [2.79.1-1]
[20:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted glib2.0 [armhf] (noble-proposed) [2.79.1-1]
[20:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted glib2.0 [ppc64el] (noble-proposed) [2.79.1-1]
[20:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted glib2.0 [s390x] (noble-proposed) [2.79.1-1]
[20:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted llvm-toolchain-18 [armhf] (noble-proposed) [1:18.1.0~rc1-1]
[20:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted llvm-toolchain-18 [ppc64el] (noble-proposed) [1:18.1.0~rc1-1]
[20:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted glib2.0 [arm64] (noble-proposed) [2.79.1-1]
[20:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted glib2.0 [riscv64] (noble-proposed) [2.79.1-1]
[20:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted llvm-toolchain-18 [i386] (noble-proposed) [1:18.1.0~rc1-1]
[20:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted glib2.0 [i386] (noble-proposed) [2.79.1-1]
[20:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted llvm-toolchain-18 [s390x] (noble-proposed) [1:18.1.0~rc1-1]
[20:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted llvm-toolchain-18 [amd64] (noble-proposed) [1:18.1.0~rc1-1]
[20:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wsl-pro-service [source] (noble-proposed) [0.1]
[20:26] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Let's kill it. It has never taken that long to upload across the ocean. Furthermore, the builder has moved on to other tasks, meaning the build status isn't even valid.
[20:28] <Eickmeyer> (never in my memory)
[20:34] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: amd64 doesn't cross the ocean
[20:35] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: ...
[20:35] <Eickmeyer> you know what I mean.
[20:35] <vorlon> it's *possible* that there is a known bottleneck right now with the upload queue on the launchpad side, which would be something #launchpad would have the answer for
[20:35] <vorlon> but anyway yeah I can kill it
[20:35] <vorlon> er uh
[20:35] <vorlon> no I can't
[20:36] <vorlon> wgrant: ^^ is that a result of your latest permissions changes? :)
[20:36] <vorlon> wgrant: would you like me to be able to continue to kill stuck things :)
[20:36] <vorlon> (and also reassess what set of people should have this ability, rather than "techboard")
[20:48] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: IMHO, that capability seems solidly within the scope of release team, so I agree.
[21:15] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, FYI today llvm-toolchain-18 was stuck in "uploading" for ~1h in some architectures. Not sure if related, just FYI
[21:16] <LocutusOfBorg> and I remember Colin saying that the upload queue was like a single one per all architectures, so if a pet package on arm64 is slow in uploading, everything else waits for it...
[21:16] <LocutusOfBorg> but I might be wrong
[21:43] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Somehow it unstuck, but I have a funny feeling it won't publish, but that's a separate issue aiui.
[21:44] <vorlon> why would you expect it not to publish?
[21:45] <mwhudson> i suspect buildd manager is just lagging due to lots of builds completing all at once
[21:45] <mwhudson> is -> was
[21:45] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: yeah it is one queue for all architectures, I'm not sure how parallelized it is
[21:45] <vorlon> but ^ that
[21:45] <ahasenack> blackboxsw: comment #7 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/2045582/comments/7 talks about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/2046483, but that bug is not in d/changelog, just aluded that it's "fixed upstream"
[21:45] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2045582 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Mantic) "sru cloud-init (23.4 update) Focal, Jammy, and Mantic" [Undecided, Fix Committed]
[21:45] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2046483 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Mantic) "status: races with dbus and errors out" [Undecided, In Progress]
[21:45] <ahasenack> how do you want to handle #2046483? It's still open
[21:45] <mwhudson> it's frustrating when it makes to take 45 mins to collect a build result but it's not usually a blocking problem
[21:46] <ahasenack> it's supposedly fixed in 23.4.1, right?
[21:50] <blackboxsw> ahasenack: I think that you are right on that. Double checking, you mean that content/fix and bug reference was omitted from debian/changelog and should be in there right?
[21:51] <ahasenack> not necessarily, as the sru exception only asks that you call out some bugs that you deem are worth it
[21:51] <ahasenack> I'm mostly asking if you wanted to close it with this upload, because right now you are not closing it since it's not mentioned
[21:53] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Just a little pessimistic lately, that and the publishing issues from the past few days. That said, looks like we're in good shape right now.
[21:58] <blackboxsw> ahasenack: I think I will close the bug  manually as we were unable to reproduce this issue w/ dbus race in manual testing or automated integration tests. We have a contrived test example on the bug. and we reflected context on the bug upstream into launchpad in the event that we needed an LP bug to reference during an SRU process.
[21:58] <ahasenack> sounds good
[22:00] <LocutusOfBorg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/petsc4py/3.19.6-3ubuntu1
[22:00] <LocutusOfBorg> petsc4py waiting for the same...
[22:00] <LocutusOfBorg> I think it will take 24h for the queue to drain
[22:01] <LocutusOfBorg> some gcc-* stuff takes 10gb for earch architecture
[22:01] <LocutusOfBorg> (to not speak about llvm-* :)
[22:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (mantic-proposed) [23.4.2-0ubuntu0~23.10.1]
[22:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (jammy-proposed) [23.4.2-0ubuntu0~22.04.1]
[22:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (focal-proposed) [23.4.2-0ubuntu0~20.04.1]
[22:21] <blackboxsw> WOOT! many thanks. We'll kick off validation stuff now
[22:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: wsl-pro-service [amd64] (noble-proposed/universe) [0.1] (no packageset)
[22:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: wsl-pro-service [arm64] (noble-proposed/universe) [0.1] (no packageset)
[22:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: wsl-pro-service [ppc64el] (noble-proposed/universe) [0.1] (no packageset)
[22:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: wsl-pro-service [s390x] (noble-proposed/universe) [0.1] (no packageset)
[22:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: wsl-pro-service [riscv64] (noble-proposed/universe) [0.1] (no packageset)
[23:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wsl-pro-service [amd64] (noble-proposed) [0.1]
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[12:47] !christel:*! Hi all. I'm about to perform a services upgrade, all going well services should only be down for a very brief moment. Hang tight and thank you for using freenode.


[15:56] <EvilGuru> I am trying to update xmltv on mythbuntu 12.04 using the ppa.  However, apt does not seem to want to update. apt-cache madison shows: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10801378/
[15:57] <EvilGuru> It can clearly see a 0.5.65 for 12.04, but is not offering it
[16:00] <EvilGuru> The policy for xmltv shows: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10801414/
[21:56] <StrvnMrvn> by any chance...is a maintainer hanging out?
[22:55] <tgm4883> EvilGuru: odd, that looks like it should upgrade to me
[22:56] <tgm4883> EvilGuru: 32-bit?
[22:58] <EvilGuru> tgm4883: 64-bit
[22:59] <EvilGuru> Could it be that no amd64 package has been built (so I'm only getting source offered)?
[22:59] <tgm4883> EvilGuru: builds failing, that is why
[23:13] <tgm4883> EvilGuru: kicking off a build now, we'll see what happens


[13:07] <mrgoodcat> morn
[13:10] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:10] <cmaloney> How's the morning so far?
[13:12] <brousch_> excellent
[13:12] <brousch_> Worked out on the new elliptical and had a donut with my son
[13:13] <mrgoodcat> not a bad start
[13:14] <mrgoodcat> i got coffee and now i'm going over MRC reports
[13:14] <mrgoodcat> yay....
[13:42] <cmaloney> Woo woo
[13:52] <jrwren> mmmm. donut is SUCH a good idea.
[16:16] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[16:16] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Desperate Cry (Scott Burns Mix) by Sepultura on Arise
[16:16] <cmaloney> Such an awesome album
[16:17] <cmaloney> Highly recommend everyone give this album a listen.
[16:17] <cmaloney> That album is Sepultura's Masters of Puppets, easily.
[16:18] <cmaloney> with Beneath the Remains being their Ride the Lightning
[16:18] <cmaloney> so good.
[17:40] <cmaloney> It's apparently I know shit about how DOS / Windows work. ;)
[17:47] <brousch_> No Windows, no Facebook, no Flash? Do you enjoy your 0.1% of the Internet?
[17:50] <cmaloney> Pthhhhpt
[17:50] <mrgoodcat> without windows, facebook, and flash i'm much happier
[17:51] <mrgoodcat> well i do facebook occasionally, but really only to respond to messages
[19:16] <jrwren> cmaloney is the 1%
[19:52] <cmaloney> heh
[19:52] <cmaloney> Anyone want to send me a linkedin invitation? I'd like to check to see if my mail server filtering is working properly.
[19:52] <cmaloney><EMAIL_ADDRESS>(pretty sure I haven't used that one yet).
[21:04] <rick_h_> cmaloney: https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14317129956/
[21:04] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/AHkMCB - Untitled | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
[21:09] <rick_h_> https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14153689460/
[21:09] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/uccKLU - Untitled | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
[21:13] <cmaloney> Heh. That's awesome.
[21:13] <cmaloney> I love how they call it "Soo Locks" and not "Sioux "
[21:14] <cmaloney> Or Sault Locks.
[21:14] <cmaloney> Ah, they're not named for the Sioux.
[21:14] <cmaloney> Thought they might be
[21:15] <cmaloney> but apparently it's because it connects Sault Ste. Marie in Ontario and Michigan.
[21:15] <cmaloney> Did not know that.
[21:17] <cmaloney> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soo_Locks#Engineers_Day
[21:17] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/l7FLDq - Soo Locks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[21:17] <cmaloney> That's cool
[21:36] <rick_h_> darn bugs messing up my bridge shot https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14153795938/in/photostream/
[21:36] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/bJowPC - Untitled | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
[21:38] <greg-g> are you live photoing/irc'ing?
[21:39] <rick_h_> :P
[21:39] <rick_h_> watching the photos go up
[21:39] <rick_h_> while relaxing after getting things unpacked
[21:42] <greg-g> ahhhh
[21:42] <rick_h_> "And this picture is from that one time, at band camps..."
[23:20] <mrgoodcat>  http://coolwanglu.github.io/vim.js/web/vim.html
[23:20] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/dtLPRz - Vim.js - Web port of Vim


[08:23] <huehner> tdaitx: a month ago i did a review of old tomcat packaging vs new to think on potential issues and shared here: overview https://pastebin.com/tHwmMd0j
[08:24] <huehner> tdaitx: the 3rd is a bit obscure but the 2nd i think somebody else out there might hit (could be 'solved'/reconfigured by override file
[08:25] <huehner> tdaitx: plan B (not a good one, but possible) the old-style init-script does still work technically (we use tomcat8-user to create on separate instance and keep modified init-script for now in there) -> we tested and does still work for us


[00:00] <hal14450> sometimes it may require dropping into a shell via ctrl+alt+F1-F6 (one shell per function key) and then killing lightdm so X is dead to install a proper driver but that depends on hardware and there's also no default fallback config for X iirc.
[00:00] <Lesh_> I did use a CLI based installer and thats what comes out. I have a S3 Supersavage and can't find a solution. The notenbook ran Ubuntu, Mint 12 etc.
[00:00] <hal14450> hmm
[00:00] <Analogymous> Alright? Thanks a lot Holstein! I never considered that to be a good idea as I was too enthustiastic about getting this stuff installed! I'll save your input for later and let the installer continue to do whatever it does for the rest of the night! Thanks @holstein
[00:01] <hal14450> Lesh_, that's something I'm not familiar with
[00:01] <Lesh_> Np, thanks anyway :)
[00:03] <hal14450> i's like to hep but i'm a bit preoccupied atm. you might keep trying to look for solutions though. i hate to sound trite but have you done an lspci yet and combined the results with a google search?
[00:03] <holstein> you can tap shift from a live CD... you'll see F6 option at the bottom "nomodeset"
[00:03] <Analogymous> Haha I did a stupid thing and ejected the DVD to see if it had frozen or not? Apparently there was a lot of stuff going on.
[00:04] <Lesh_> yeah i did
[00:05] <Analogymous> Thanks guys! Goodnight.
[00:06] <hal14450> Lesh_, wish i could be of more help but i don't have the time right now :(
[00:07] <hal14450> Lesh_, you might try a local LUG for more personalized advice
[00:09] <Osmodivs> I conected my PC via VGA to a 1080p LED display, now all menus and fonts are so yiny is barely readeble, I can change fonts in the openBox and customize look and feel, but that only changes the windows but not the menus and other stuff, is there a way to change the font size to suit a 1920x1080 display?
[00:09] <Lesh_> alright, thank you for your advice :) its okay
[00:10] <hal14450> Lesh_, if you don't get it sorted tonight i might be around tomorrow ~6pm -5GMT okay?
[00:12] <hal14450> Osmodivs, yes but it may be a bit complicated depending on the setup. sadly i don't have the time right now to help.
[00:13] <Lesh_> alright, ill be here
[00:13] <Lesh_> thank you very much
[00:16] <hal14450> Lesh_, yvw =)
[00:17] <hal14450> Lesh_, get my attention by naming me
[00:17] <hal14450> ttyl
[00:17] <Lesh_> hall4450 Alright
[00:19] <hal14450> Lesh_, 'hint' use the TAB key and the first few letters of my nick in most IRC clients to make sure i see it as you added an extra l in hal ;-)
[00:20] <Lesh_> hal14450 D:
[00:20] <hal14450> bingo!
[00:20] <hal14450> ttyt ;-)
[00:20] <Lesh_> never used irc, i feel so nooby.
[00:20] <hal14450> no worries mate
[00:21]  * hal14450 is off
[04:22] <CJ_> hi
[04:46] <droidmaxxx> hello guys!! lubuntu fails to shutdown or hibernate in virtual box... It starts does smths then a  Black Screen for hours... Virtual box doesn't shut down...
[04:46] <droidmaxxx> I hope someone from LUBUNTU team is online right now :\
[04:47] <droidmaxxx> I'm using 12.10
[08:19] <jumpy> hello
[08:20] <jumpy> i need some info about the supported devices of lubuntu
[08:20] <jumpy> is the cedar trail supported?
[08:21] <jumpy> anyone??
[08:22] <bioterror> if it works on ubuntu, it works on lubuntu
[08:23] <jumpy> it worked on ubuntu, but now with lubuntu, when i use the extra drivers app, it installs drivers, but then suddenly the screen gets black :/
[08:23] <jumpy> it still does something, i see hdd led flashing
[08:24] <bioterror> sounds lovely
[08:24] <jumpy> idd :/
[08:24] <bioterror> broken intel drivers
[08:24] <jumpy> derp...
[08:25] <jumpy> is there something i can do bout it? or do i need oto stay with 800x600?
[08:25] <jumpy> isnt bad acctually, only little fat faces with movies...
[08:26] <jumpy> but i want to get the most out of my netbook u know...
[08:26] <bioterror> yeah, but you dont get VAAPI support without goods drivers
[08:26] <bioterror> -s
[08:27] <jumpy> so there are no fixes yet from intel?
[08:31] <bioterror> I dunno, you have the same internet asI do
[08:32] <bioterror> you can search launchpad for example, I'm at work. trying to lend some shoulder
[08:32] <jumpy> srry, i didnt know :/ im just here to try find some answers...
[14:36] <lesshaste> how can you configure a web proxy for chromium? In firefox you just add it to an "automatic proxy configuration URL" in the preferences. Is there some chromium equivalent?
[14:37] <holstein> lesshaste: you can alway just use firefox, if thats what you are used to and prefer
[14:38] <lesshaste> holstein, I would prefer to use chromium
[14:38] <holstein> http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/secure-web-proxy seems relevant
[14:40] <holstein> lesshaste: i find it in chrome... under settings in the menu, under settings again there, after clicking "show advanced settings" at the bottom
[14:40] <holstein> the first option i see in the  advanced settings is proxy
[14:41] <lesshaste> "When running Chromium under a supported desktop environment, the system proxy settings will be used. However, either your system is not supported or there was a problem while launching your system configuration.
[14:41] <lesshaste> But you can still configure via the command line. Please see man chromium-browser for more information on flags and environment variables."
[14:41] <holstein> so, in a terminal "man chromium-browser"
[14:41] <holstein> lesshaste: or, look for that in the menu
[14:42] <holstein> lesshaste: or try chrome... or firefox
[14:42] <lesshaste> k
[14:55] <lesshaste> holstein, there is a nice plugin that solves it all
[14:55] <lesshaste> switchy
[14:57] <holstein> lesshaste: cool!.. i'll make a note if that comes up again
[14:58] <lesshaste> proxy switchy
[14:58] <lesshaste> :)
[20:00] <bulletrulz> is anyone here!
[20:02] <holstein> !ask | bulletrulz
[20:02] <bulletrulz> ok how to change the window bordor icons in lubuntuu
[20:03] <holstein> bulletrulz: i would just play around in the theme settings.. the window decorations it what i think you are looking for
[20:04] <bulletrulz> ikno that but it only changes the color not the icon
[20:05] <holstein> bulletrulz: depends on what you choose.. i would just keep experiementing, and keep in mind a lot of what is available and configured in lubuntu is for being "light"
[20:05] <bioterror> obconf
[20:06] <bulletrulz> sooooooo i want to use the ambeice theme bu it doesent work it changes the color but holstein
[20:07] <holstein> bulletrulz: i havent used "the ambience" theme with lxde.. do you have a link?
[20:08] <bulletrulz> hold on its a gtk theme
[20:09] <bulletrulz> is thst y?
[20:10] <bulletrulz> nvm i guess its ok
[20:23] <yeah> trying to update menu in lubuntu but not sure where to put .desktop file.  Tried online docs but no change
[20:24] <holstein> yeah: i just use kupfer. or synapse
[20:24] <holstein> i thought alacarte was working with lxde now
[20:24] <yeah> alacarte seemed overkill at 56MB to edit a text file
[20:25] <yeah> I recall I did a sublime.desktop file and setup the Programming menu but can't remember what I did :)
[20:25] <holstein> yeah: i would probably just look at the others in place and emulate
[20:26] <yeah> I have done so. /usr/share/applications and even make a .local/share/ relevant menu, but it's not showing up.  The menu.xml file doesn't reflect the current menu either.  :confused:
[20:27] <bioterror> is your .desktop file correct-a-mundo?
[20:27] <yeah> but I'll try kupfer / synapse as you suggest
[20:27] <yeah> good question.  I copied it from sublime to make a drjava.desktop file
[20:27] <yeah> it should at least show up in the menu
[20:28] <bioterror> compare it to a working .desktop file
[20:28] <bioterror> [Desktop entry] and Categories= are important
[20:29] <yeah> yes I have those.  Comparing files....brb
[20:35] <yeah> changed Categories to TextEditor;IDE;Development to match sublime.desktop.  however drjava.desktop does not show up.  I've been running lxpanelctl restart to refresh the menu, is that necessary?  Nothing showing up in menu
[20:36] <holstein> id say you are on the right track though
[20:37] <yeah> I'll try taking out $HOME and putting in full directories
[20:40] <yeah> I added some other sections and refreshed, that worked!  Now the icon isn't showing but it shows under properties
[20:41] <holstein> yeah: almost!... id say thats progress.. i forget where that is, but there is a way to categorize
[20:42] <yeah> fixed the icon, just went and found it again in the properties, change icon ....done
[20:42] <yeah> and I didn't have to download 56mb for alacarte either
[20:42] <yeah> t:D
[20:43] <holstein> cheers
[20:43] <yeah> cheers
[20:54] <hunger993> Hey guys. Im running ubuntu with the lxde desktop enviroment. Should I seek support here?
[20:55] <holstein> hunger993: sure.. whats up?
[20:57] <hunger993> So I used a usb CD drive, and now my mouse sticks about once a second.
[20:57] <hunger993> it happend when i was using windows xp too, but it would go away after i unplugged it
[20:58] <hunger993> and i have rebooted since i rmoved the drive
[20:59] <menethoril> Does the issue only occur while the drive is mounted?
[21:00] <hunger993> no, i unplugged it, and noticed it was still sticking, so i rebooted. still a problem
[21:00] <hunger993> though it does stick less now then when it was plugged in
[21:02] <hunger993> so... how fix?
[21:07] <hunger993> gaise...?
[21:14] <menethoril> You might want to take this to the ubuntu channel instead, if only for the larger quantity of users.  I am unfamiliar with anything that might cause such an issue.
[21:15] <hunger993> ok thanks for the help.
[21:26] <holstein> hunger993: i would shutdown.. not restart. maybe pull the power.. try and fully power off... maybe use live CD's, or take the hard drive out to rule out *any* operating system issue
[21:27] <holstein> hunger993: you can look at cat /proc/interrupts , but i would expect things to go back to normal after removing said usb hardware
[21:28] <holstein> i might try other usb hardware in that usb port.. i would try other usb ports... i would entertain that the issue is a motherboard issue
[21:30] <menethoril> I thought that the USB controller might be at fault, but he stated that the issue lessened but did not disappear upon the drive's removal.  Maybe a full shutdown would resolve the issue.
[21:31] <holstein> might help support that bad hardware theory
[21:35] <menethoril> Indeed.
[22:32] <Lesh_> hal14450 hey
[22:40] <hal14450> hello Lesh_
[22:40] <hal14450> any luck yet?
[22:43] <Lesh_> nah had no time
[22:43] <Lesh_> just came home :)
[22:45] <hal14450> so just to refresh my memory this is a laptop with and S3 video chipset right?
[22:46] <hal14450> Lesh_, ^^^
[22:48] <hal14450> so i guess the first course of action is to see if you can drop into a shell using ctrl+alt+F1
[22:49] <Lesh_> yes
[22:49] <hal14450> then after you've logged in to that you can open another one  using alt+F2-F6
[22:50] <Lesh_> S3 Supersavage :D
[22:50] <Lesh_> i can
[22:50] <hal14450> good deal
[22:50] <hal14450> so you may want to have two shells open okay?
[22:51] <Lesh_> do i? :D
[22:51] <hal14450> switching between them is easy enough by using alt+F(1-6)
[22:51] <hal14450> well it's easier to have more than one
[22:51] <Lesh_> alright
[22:51] <hal14450> one for getting info and another for working
[22:52] <Lesh_> good
[22:52] <Lesh_> i opened two
[22:52] <hal14450> good, are you familiar with the less command at all?
[22:52] <hal14450> or grep?
[22:53] <Lesh_> im familiar with no command at all
[22:53] <hal14450> lol okay
[22:53] <Lesh_> except of apt-get
[22:53] <Lesh_> D:
[22:53] <hal14450> can you ssh into that box at all?
[22:53] <Lesh_> ssh?
[22:54] <hal14450> lol
[22:54] <Lesh_> :D
[22:54] <hal14450> no worries we'll try and get you sorted out tonight okay?
[22:54] <Lesh_> good.
[22:55] <hal14450> so ssh is a secure shell which is a way of working on the machine via another one that doesn't have issues which would be better for helping you out since you can share the info a lot easier via copy paste
[22:56] <hal14450> so the machine you're on now is running what OS?
[22:56] <Lesh_> Windows Vista X:
[22:57] <hal14450> okay so you'll probably need something like putty for that which a client you can use to connect to the laptop
[22:57] <Lesh_> k let me google it
[22:57] <hal14450> good man
[22:58] <hal14450> if traffic gets heavier in here please use my nick so that i can keep attention focused on what you way okay?
[22:58] <hal14450> *say* even
[22:58] <Lesh_> hal14450 alright
[22:58] <hal14450> now we're roling
[22:59] <Lesh_> hal14450 ok i got putty now
[23:00] <hal14450> cool, so on the laptop you'll want to install the ssh server give me a minute and i'll tell you the exact command okay?
[23:00] <Lesh_> hal14450 alright
[23:02] <hal14450> just wanted to double check the package name, sudo apt-get install ssh should do it
[23:02] <hal14450> used to be there were a couple of choices
[23:03] <Lesh_> hal14450 its installing
[23:03] <hal14450> you can use sudo -s in a the working terminal to gain persistent root
[23:03] <hal14450> that might be easier but just be careful
[23:04] <Lesh_> alright
[23:04] <hal14450> doing stuff as root can be dangerous
[23:04] <hal14450> so once it's installed you can then try logging into the box from putty on your windows machine
[23:05] <hal14450> you'll need to know the IP though
[23:05] <hal14450> ifconfig will tell you
[23:05] <hal14450> for a lan it's usually 192.168.XXX.XXX
[23:05] <Lesh_> mh
[23:05] <Lesh_> it says command not found
[23:06] <hal14450> ifconfig not found?
[23:06] <hal14450> that's odd
[23:06] <Lesh_> ah now
[23:06] <Lesh_> dunno why
[23:06] <Lesh_> ah
[23:06] <Lesh_> nevermind
[23:06] <hal14450> speeled it wrong eh?
[23:06] <hal14450> lol
[23:06] <Lesh_> yeah
[23:06] <Lesh_> D:
[23:07] <hal14450> you can type the first few letters like in IRC and then use the tab key for completion
[23:07] <Lesh_> hal14450: ah
[23:07] <Lesh_> hal14450: thats nice
[23:07] <hal14450> isn't it?
[23:08] <Lesh_> hal14450: ok, the port stays at 22?
[23:08] <hal14450> yes that's the standard port for ssh
[23:09] <Lesh_> oh nice
[23:09] <Lesh_> hal14450: im in
[23:09] <hal14450> sweet
[23:10] <hal14450> so first off it would be nice to get any errors out of the way, so please wait a sec while i give you a command to run okay?
[23:11] <Lesh_> okay
[23:11] <hal14450> grep "(EE)" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:11] <hal14450> if there's a lot of output you'll want to use a pastebin like service
[23:12] <hal14450> don't paste the ouput in here okay Lesh_ ?
[23:12] <hal14450> brb
[23:12] <Lesh_> hal14450:  k which one should we use?
[23:13] <Lesh_> hal14450: seem like there are around 3 errors
[23:14] <hal14450> okay can you use pastebin to them please?
[23:18] <Lesh_> http://pastebin.com/4fXB3HUA
[23:18] <hal14450> ty Lesh_
[23:19] <hal14450> so to see what's all about we'll modify that last command a little
[23:19] <hal14450> give me a sec
[23:20] <hal14450> grep -C 10 "(EE)" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:20] <hal14450> that will give use 10 lines of context around the errors to see if it matters or not
[23:22] <Lesh_> http://pastebin.com/EXXXGNsg
[23:23] <hal14450> ty Lesh_ i didn't think it mattered that xaa didn't load and it looks like it so far give me a minute to be sure
[23:25] <Lesh_> hal14450: okay!
[23:27] <hal14450> okay looks pretty harmless to me can you please paste the output from this command: lspci -vv|grep -A 50 "VGA compatible"
[23:28] <hal14450> basically 50 lines of info but if the stanza is shorter than that feel free to cut it off
[23:29] <Lesh_> hal14450: http://pastebin.com/88rRT0Dg
[23:29] <Lesh_> i did something wrong D:
[23:30] <Lesh_> hal14450: or?
[23:30] <hal14450> ls is like the dir command in dos it's just a list and lspci is a list of the pci hardware with the -vv switch it's 'very verbose' and then we pipe that to grep using the pipe key '|' and ask for 50 lik=nes after with the switch -A. give a me sec to look that over
[23:31] <hal14450> can you paste just the exact command you used in here please? not the output
[23:33] <hal14450> it looks like you may have made a syntax error again
[23:33] <hal14450> i tested the command here so it should work
[23:34] <Lesh_> k ill retype
[23:35] <hal14450> Lesh_, the output should resemble this: http://pastebin.com/z4QkAM3n
[23:36] <Lesh_> ah i found the error
[23:37] <Lesh_> hal14450: http://pastebin.com/eSCLBAX8
[23:37] <hal14450> ty give a me a minute please
[23:39] <hal14450> Lesh_,  okay so we now know what the card is for sure and we know it uses the savagefb module
[23:40] <hal14450> lsmod|grep savagefb
[23:40] <Lesh_> alright
[23:40] <hal14450> should be one line at the least
[23:40] <Lesh_> nothing
[23:41] <hal14450> modprobe -i savagefb
[23:41] <hal14450> killall lightdm
[23:41] <Lesh_> hal14450: nothing again
[23:42] <Lesh_> the notebook said " [3045.126764] cannot request PCI regions
[23:42] <Lesh_> "
[23:42] <hal14450> can you paste the output from those commands please because sometimes nothing is good
[23:42] <hal14450> prompt to prompt if you will
[23:42] <Lesh_> no i mean
[23:43] <hal14450> obfuscate it if you like
[23:43] <Lesh_> if i hit enter it drives me back to  root@localhostLesh:~#
[23:43] <Lesh_> no output at all
[23:43] <hal14450> okay so you pasted what again and got what output exactly?
[23:44] <Lesh_> i pasted lsmod|grep savagefb -> nothing happens. modprobe -i savagefb -> putty says nothing, the notebook says [ 3045.126764] cannot request PCI regions. killall lightdm -> nothing happens
[23:46] <hal14450> so killall lightdm should kill the login screen
[23:46] <hal14450> and thus kill X
[23:46] <Lesh_> mh
[23:46] <Lesh_> if i use strg+alt+f7 the screen went away
[23:46] <hal14450> alt+F7 is where X normally resides
[23:47] <Lesh_> what exactly is X?
[23:48] <hal14450> ctrl+alt+F<1-6> gets you back from X. X is the windowing system that all nix variants use until wayland eventually replaces it
[23:48] <hal14450> maybe that is
[23:48] <Lesh_> ah
[23:49] <hal14450> it;s been a while since i've used lubuntu but i do have a box with an older version installed on it but iirc it uses lightdm
[23:50] <hal14450> gimme a minute
[23:50] <hal14450> are you using a registered nick Lesh_ ?
[23:51] <Lesh_> hal14450: nope
[23:51] <hal14450> i wanted to pm you but i don't think that's possible without you registering
[23:51] <hal14450> are you using mIRC?
[23:53] <Lesh_> hal14450: nope D:
[23:54] <hal14450> what irc client then?
[23:54] <Lesh_> im here via freenode webchat
[23:54] <holstein> should be able to /q without registering
[23:55] <Lesh_> linked from the ubuntu wiki
[23:55] <holstein> !register
[23:55] <hal14450> ahh okay, i'm not sure if they have any provisons for PM or registering
[23:55] <hal14450> holstein, do you know if the web client allows PM?
[23:55] <holstein> nope.. works fine
[23:55] <holstein> hal14450: sure.. try it
[23:55] <holstein> hal14450: /q Lesh_
[23:56] <hal14450> ty holstein
[23:56] <holstein>  /q Lesh138 now :)
[23:56] <hal14450> got it
[23:56] <Lesh138> nice, thank you holstein
[23:56] <hal14450> thanks again holstein
[23:57] <holstein> sure.. enjoy.. wish i could hang and help more


[08:44] !nalioth:*! Hi all! dinolinux would like to announce a new channel.  ##norge will be a Norwegian channel, and will function as a social meeting place to discuss news and other important and not-so-important matters.  Official language will be Norwegian, but English will be spoken as well.


[00:42] <james_lavin> help
[02:53] <AMBGuitarist> Hi
[02:54] <irc_standardnick> hi
[02:54] <AMBGuitarist> Is there anyone really good at sound troubleshooting?
[03:00] <rob0> not in those two minutes, I guess
[03:11] <morganu> I do not have a power saving feature under activities, power. I turned the brightness all the way down under the power thing on the upper right panel... and it is still bright.
[03:12] <morganu> that slider has no effect.  The monitor is too bright.
[03:14] <Obscenity> after 3 failed installs on 3 different isos, i have to question the integrity of subiquity
[03:15] <Obscenity> is there a boot flag to use the old debian installer instead, lol
[03:19] <Obscenity> maybe i should post that in the server channel to be more specific
[04:07] <sandztorm> hello
[04:09] <devslash> does anyone know why this line in my sshd_config https://termbin.com/4jj0 PubKeyAuthentication causes ssh to refuse all connections
[04:10] <sandztorm> can someone help with installation problem for 20.04? upon clicking on install ubuntu server, pc reboots and screen just goes blank
[04:10] <devslash> it used to work just fine but now ssh will now allow password or pubkey auth if i have this line in my config
[04:20] <tomreyn> devslash: you could increase the loglevel and run sshd in the foreground (or follow the log) to maybe get a better idea.
[04:21] <tomreyn> sandztorm: double check the downloaded iso checksum and the data written to the installation media
[04:22] <tomreyn> if *both* are correct, you may need to check your hardware.
[04:22] <tomreyn> (start with a memory test)
[04:26] <tomreyn> devslash: looks like you're getting help in #linux, good. please point it out when you cross post.
[04:57] <valentin>  Доброй ночи. Кто может помочь в настройке wine для старой игры?
[04:58] <sandztorm>  thanks, will try checking the checksum first. if its hardware though it will be weird since the PC is new and haven't been used (1st time install)
[04:59] <ayaka> valentin: how old?
[04:59] <Bashing-om> ayaka: Acer machine by chance ?
[05:00] <ayaka> nope
[05:05] <valentin> Red Alert 2
[05:11] <tomreyn> sandztorm: dead on arrival isn't unheard of. new hardware should always undergo stability testing first of all.
[05:12] <matsaman> valentin: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=167
[05:13] <matsaman> valentin: click the version links for specific instructions/notes
[05:31] <Sven_vB> !info xseticon
[05:31] <Sven_vB> are there any plans to add it to Ubuntu?
[05:34] <matsaman> https://snapcraft.io/xseticon
[05:35] <Sven_vB> I see. so the deb package version probably won't
[05:35] <Sven_vB> thanks anyway :)
[05:37] <matsaman> probably won't?
[05:37] <Sven_vB> probably won't be added to Ubuntu
[05:37] <matsaman> where's the deb package?
[05:38] <matsaman> oh you mean .deb
[05:38] <matsaman> and not Debian =) gotcha
[05:38] <matsaman> got me
[05:39] <Sven_vB> yeah. bottom post in https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2250384 claims it exists, but without details.
[05:39] <matsaman> Sven_vB: https://github.com/xeyownt/xseticon#build-and-install-instructions ?
[05:40] <matsaman> 2014 was a while ago, of course
[05:41] <Sven_vB> yeah, found that. compiling it myself is an option to consider.
[05:41] <matsaman> probably quite a wee app
[05:44] <Sven_vB> found the deb on http://packages.leonerd.org.uk/pool/main/x/xseticon/
[07:27] <xu-irc92w> !jammy
[07:53] <Pinchiukas_> Can someone explain to me why grub-pc is no longer available for i386 in jammy?
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !next | Pinchiukas_
[07:54] <Pinchiukas_> Thanks :)
[08:25] <Nokaji__> Is  Jammy Jellyfish the major, two year release?
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> !jammy | Nokaji__
[08:27] <Nokaji__> Perfect, thanks lotuspsychje !
[08:29] <Nokaji__> Every fourth release, occurring in the second quarter of even-numbered years, has been designated as a long-term support (LTS) release.
[08:34] <NetEcho_> so 22.04 is LTS?
[08:34] <guiverc> Nokaji__, the first release on the even year...
[08:34] <guiverc> 20.10 was the first in the development cycle that continued with 21.04, 21.10 before ending the cycle with 22.04 LTS (in a few days)
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> yes NetEcho_
[08:36]  * guiverc clarifies, first release not including re-spins of prior releases; eg. 20.04.4  (earlier this year; respin of 20.04 using 21.10's kernel stack & all upgrades)
[11:49] <yuzi> hi
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> welcome yuzi
[11:50] <yuzi> will ubuntu based distro get updated after 22.04 lts release?
[11:50] <yuzi> lotuspsychje, hey
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> yuzi: do you mean ubuntu derivatives?
[11:51] <yuzi> yeah maybe
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> yuzi: we can only support ubuntu and its !flavours here
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> yuzi: questions about ubuntu based derivatives, best to ask in their own support channel
[11:52] <yuzi> !flavours
[11:52] <yuzi> lotuspsychje, okay
[12:01] <deathadder> I'm having a tough time to install ubuntu or fedora
[12:01] <deathadder> what to choose
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | deathadder
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:36] <PowaBanga> hi everybody
[13:37] <PowaBanga> where can i find the best .icc profile for my printer ?
[13:49] <tomreyn> PowaBanga: its manufacturer should supply one, if anyone.
[16:04] <gasch> alguien vivo ??
[16:04] <EriC^^> gasch: where are you from?
[16:04] <gasch> im from chile
[16:04] <gasch> you ?
[16:04] <EriC^^> you speak portugese or spanish?
[16:05] <EriC^^> im from lebanon
[16:05] <gasch> spanish
[16:05] <EriC^^> ok if you want theres the spanish channel, or here for english
[16:05] <EriC^^> !es | gasch
[16:05] <gasch> thx
[16:05] <EriC^^> np
[16:06] <gasch> g b
[16:06] <EriC^^> bye
[16:43] <fn31ln3> did anyone manage to setup a dns server for openvpn clients on ubunut?
[16:44] <rob0> perhaps start with what your issue was when you tried?
[16:46] <fn31ln3> the clients are not using the dns server I want. The dns works tested with hosts
[16:47] <fn31ln3> Im curious is this the go-to solution https://github.com/jonathanio/update-systemd-resolved
[16:48] <rob0> so you are asking about how to configure DNS on an Ubuntu which is a VPN client?
[16:49] <fn31ln3> how to configure the dns on the openvpn server. Or this is not possible, I need to do it per client?
[16:49] <rob0> If your systemd-resolved is using multiple nameservers, and if some of those don't have the local zones, you might find inconsistency in trying to resolve local names.
[16:49] <rob0> Sure, an openvpn server can run a nameserver.
[16:50] <fn31ln3> rob0, I have the dns server, can I configure the openvpn server to use the dns server and affect all clients, or do I have do it per client?
[16:50] <fn31ln3> this is not clear for me
[16:56] <m6wiq> Do you want to use a forwarder (e.g. Quad9 or Google DNS) or do you have a recursive dns server installed?
[16:58] <rob0> we're talking about it in #openvpn, which is better suited for this discussion.
[18:14] <milobit> ubuntu-rs
[18:29] <Goose14> hello, i need help please
[18:30] <mostafa> Hello i also need help ..about zip archive in ubutnu
[18:30] <mostafa> i wanna split a zip file to multiple files but wanna pause after each splited files.....
[18:31] <mostafa> this is zip split command ---> zip -s 5m MyFile.zip --output=newzip.zip.....Split MyFile.zip to 5M files....
[18:31] <mostafa> and this is -sp command.. that pause .. but not working at all...zip -sp 5m MyFile.zip --output=newzip.zip
[18:31] <Goose14> i'm planning to wipe my home directory because i'm going to do FDE, i'm wondering what folders should i backup or take care for before wiping or any important folders or files should be backed up? any tips?
[18:32] <mostafa> mostafa: it show me error ---> zip I/O error: No such file or directory
[18:32] <mostafa> zip error: File not found or no read permission (5m.zip)
[18:33] <mostafa> can some one help me on this?
[18:39] <Goose14100> anyone answered my question?
[18:39] <Goose14100> sorry i disconnected
[18:41] <mostafa> Goose14100: no one here to help me also... for your question..you must copy application data files ..these is some app for backup search google you can find it
[18:43] <Goose14100> mostafa: thanks.. do you know where these files located
[18:46] <mostafa> Goose14100: in your Home Directory
[18:48] <mostafa> Goose14100: also these is an app called Timeshift..you can use it for backup system.. but search for it yourself in google
[18:48] <mostafa> any one help me on that question....??
[18:51] <sprnk[m]> mostafa:  did you see the -sp flag?
[18:52] <mostafa> sprnk[m]: yes ..like --->zip -sp 5m MyFile.zip --output=newzip.zip
[18:54] <mostafa> sprnk[m]: it say me that ---> zip error: File not found or no read permission (5m.zip)             ?? what? what file? 5m here is 5 Megabyte...
[18:58] <sprnk[m]> -sp doesn't take an argument. try specifying both -s and -sp
[18:58] <ogra> mostafa, -sp does not take any arguments ...
[18:58] <ogra> heh ...
[19:00] <mostafa> ogra: sprnk[m]: oh god Yes..Thanks.. it's like-->zip -s 5m -sp MyFile.zip --output=newzip.zip
[19:07] <blackop> is ubuntu going to be released in 21th April officially?
[19:07] <blackop> 3 days later?
[19:07] <blackop> ubuntu 22.04
[19:13] <oerheks> blackop, why 3 days later?
[19:22] <blackop> oerheks: i read somewhere it will be released in 21st of April
[19:22] <blackop> isnt it true?
[19:23] <blackop> so today 18th april for me that makes 3 days later
[19:25] <blackop> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[19:29] <AngryTom> When I pass through the dgpu to a virtual machine, video playback on the igpu begins to stutter. How can I avoid that?
[19:34] <jhutchins> AngryTom: Well, for one, use the primary system for video playback, not a VM.
[19:41] <AngryTom> yes, the host stutters
[19:49] <cassius> Is it the whole time or just when the VM is on?
[20:08] <Minus_One> AngryTom, the question about whether this happens when the VM is off is pretty relevant. If it only happens when the VM is running, I would suspect that you are giving the VM too many system resources to have a smooth experience on the host. If it happens even when the VM is off, I wonder if your iGPU is up to the task of rendering video at whatever resolution + framerate you are using.
[20:09] <AngryTom> It happens when I isolate the dgpu from the host.
[20:09] <Minus_One> And when the dgpu is available to the host, you can play back video from the igpu without issue?
[20:09] <AngryTom> yes
[20:10] <Minus_One> Huh. Did you plug more outputs into the igpu when you set up your GPU passthrough setup, or keep it the same?
[20:11] <AngryTom> Only one monitor is connected to the igpu. it is also smooth, when I remove the dgpu card.
[20:13] <Minus_One> Well, I dunno. I can't think of what might cause that. There are communities at reddit.com/r/vfio and forum.level1techs.com that may be able to help
[20:13] <AngryTom> thanks
[20:13] <Minus_One> Sure, hope you get some help
[20:57] <electrostrong> Any Samba + Winbind experts in here to field a question?
[21:00] <electrostrong> running into an issue with timeouts - after domain joining with winbind and updating nsswitch.conf so that users/groups have winbind as an authentication option, I get long timeout issues if the domain controller is not available to service login requests
[21:02] <electrostrong> it makes sense but what I'd like to do is either lower the timeout or incorporate an action that if the server does not resolve, to continue
[21:03] <sarnold> electrostrong: I have the impression that most folks using domain authentication things go through sssd https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/service-sssd
[21:04] <electrostrong> ya - from what I read, sssd can't be used with samba's ads security
[21:04] <electrostrong> as it requires winbind and winbind + sssd don't co-exist (also makes sense)
[21:07] <sarnold> aww :(
[21:09] <electrostrong> Confirmed as well - as of version 4.8.0+, winbind is required: https://www.samba.org/samba/history/samba-4.8.0.html
[21:10] <electrostrong> "Setups with "security = domain" or "security = ads" require a
[21:10] <electrostrong> running 'winbindd' now. The fallback that smbd directly contacts
[21:10] <electrostrong>  domain controllers is gone."
[21:10] <electrostrong> To your point sarnold, sssd did work and didn't have the timeout issue when the domain controller was not available
[21:53] <The_LoudSpeaker_> Is there a launchpad ticket related to the following?:
[21:53] <The_LoudSpeaker_> When in X11 session, I can see the auto rotation lock/unlock option under menu in gnome. It disappears under wayland. I am using a ideapad flex 5.
[21:53] <The_LoudSpeaker_> The option works fine in X11 session, screen rotates fine and everything is great. But I'd like that feature under wayland too.
[21:57] <The_LoudSpeaker_> also, on the same laptop under (doesn't matter under wayland or x11), when I switch to tablet mode, touchpad gets disabled as expected but it doesn't get enabled again when I switch back from tablet mode. I have to go to settings using touchscreen and manually enable touchpad.
[21:58] <The_LoudSpeaker_> let me know if there are any tickets for this or if I should create them.
[22:02] <sarnold> The_LoudSpeaker_: if you weren't able to spot them with a few searches in your favourite search engine, then it's probably best to create new bugs. I don't know enough of the gui layers to know which packages to suggest
[22:04] <ogra> i'd just start with "ubuntu-bug gnome-shell" ... then let devs decide further actions to potentially throw it in a different bucket ...
[22:04] <sarnold> yay :)
[22:05] <ogra> 🙂
[22:20] <jhutchins> The_LoudSpeaker_: Welcome to the software development phase of Wayland.  It's not always going to work, and it's not always going to have the feature you want from X11 (it is a different system after all).
[22:51] <halvors> Hi, i get this error message when trying to do "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y" in docker container (ubuntu:22.04), can anyone help me solve this problem? https://pastebin.com/P0pTCdgs
[22:55] <EriC^^> halvors: /join #ubuntu+1 for jammy support
[22:56] <sarnold> halvors: hah, I'm surprised about the || true there, one of the side effects of the rm -f flag is that it should ignore things like missing files.. if you run that command by hand, do you get another kind of error?
[22:57] <halvors> this is part of a Dockerfile build script, it doesn't fail on 21.04
[22:57] <halvors> So should i send this message again in #ubuntu+1?
[23:00] <sarnold> what's the point of that post-invoke command, anyway? is that executed after all the packages have been installed, and there were just none to install in this run?
[23:00] <sarnold> or is it executed before the packages have been installed, and it's a "break the update" command?
[23:01] <halvors> this is just by running "apt-get update" no idea why that fails...
[23:01] <halvors> here is a pastebin: https://pastebin.com/rWFyjmjZ
[23:01] <halvors> sarnold: it is a clean ubuntu:22.04 from docker hub.
[23:01] <summonner> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38002543/apt-get-update-returned-a-non-zero-code-100
[23:02] <halvors> summonner: if this is the case, shouldn't "apt-transport-https" already be installed in the ubuntu:22.04 docker image?
[23:02] <sarnold> https has been built in to apt for ages now, it's a pointless metapackage
[23:03] <summonner> try a apt list --installed | grep transport to see?
[23:04] <halvors> sarnold: yeah you are right, so it fails for some other reason
[23:04] <halvors> summonner: like sarnold said.
[23:04] <halvors> also i do not add any sources other than what is default.
[23:05] <sarnold> halvors: my half-hearted guess is that your rm executable isn't being found for some reason -- perhaps the /bin -> /usr/bin symlink is broken, maybe the executable is missing, maybe one of its libraries is missing, etc
[23:05] <halvors> well, guess ubuntu devs have a few days to fix it before LTS release xD
[23:07] <morganu> I cant adjust the brightness of my screen (20.04) the one under the power on the panel does nothing. Uner power (activities) nothing to adjust it exists. Help me?
[23:11] <halvors> sarnold: symlink is just fine
[23:11] <halvors> so guess docker image is completly useless.
[23:11] <halvors> works fine on my ubuntu:22.04 install
[23:11] <halvors> that is not a docker iamge
[23:11] <halvors> image*
[23:14] <sarnold> halvors: do you use the same post-invoke apt configuration on your machine?
[23:16] <EriC^^> halvors: 'sudo -i' 'strace -o /tmp/apt.log apt-get update' could show more info
[23:32] <summonner> halvors, what version of docker are you running?  version 20.10.8? If you update to 20.10.12 it should be fixed according to another post (same error message as your pastebin)