   Happy Friday, and happy Hammock Day! 😃
[09:12] <brobostigon> http://web.musicaficionado.com/main.html#!/article/Ian_Anderson_My_Best_And_Worst_Gigs_Of_All_Time
[09:15] <davmor2> JamesTait: got ya covered with the smoothest longest hammock in song form https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpAPpTYDjEY
[09:19]  * JamesTait yawns, goes back to bed.
[09:23] <diddledan> edward snowden is making news again: http://www.macrumors.com/2016/07/22/edward-snowden-iphone-case-guard-radio-snitching/
[09:23] <diddledan> morning all
[09:23] <diddledan> apparently I have got blood. though two bottles less than when I got-up this morning
[09:24] <diddledan> naughty nurse decided she wanted some of it
[09:24] <diddledan> I tried charging £5/bottle but she was having none of it
[09:25] <davmor2> JamesTait: only song I could think of that had a hammock in it :)  But Franks voice is still hard to beat for mellow easy listening
[09:26] <diddledan> davmor2: he still hasn't beaten you yet thebn
[09:26] <diddledan> then*
[09:27]  * diddledan beats davmor2 . hard.
[09:27] <davmor2> diddledan: up a bit......oh thanks that itch was really starting to annoy
[09:27] <diddledan> :-)
[09:49] <daftykins> diddledan: o/
[09:49] <daftykins> diddledan: watch out for llamas
[09:49] <diddledan> \o
[09:49] <diddledan> I'll get winamp because that whips the llamas ass
[09:50] <daftykins> i'm using it right now!
[09:50] <daftykins> heh the project got taken over but there hasn't been a release in like 2 years
[09:50] <diddledan> lol. I didn't even know it was still going
[09:50] <diddledan> it was a stalwart of 90s teenagers' desktops
[09:51] <diddledan> including mine
[09:51] <diddledan> it was winamp I think that pioneered the "visualisation" concept
[09:51] <daftykins> AOL ditched it i think, but "they" managed to pinch it
[09:52] <daftykins> http://www.winamp.com/ still useless link to the forum
[09:52] <davmor2> diddledan, daftykins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBaUmx5s6iE
[09:52]  * daftykins clicks
[09:53] <daftykins> :D
[09:53] <daftykins> ARIBA
[09:54] <diddledan> lmao
[09:54] <diddledan> I love python
[09:54]  * daftykins goes to Ada's snack bar (at the end)
[09:55] <diddledan> lol @ tape recorder
[09:56] <davmor2> you're welcome
[09:56] <daftykins> ugh got a 14.04 file server that only sometimes comes back up on reboot
[09:56] <diddledan> of course the python guys consider they failed because they were trying to be uncategorisable but now they're categorised as pythonesque
[09:57] <daftykins> when i go to it, it's booted fine, but the network interface isn't sending packets at all
[09:57] <diddledan> daftykins: it's the disks
[09:57] <daftykins> i checked that XD
[09:57] <diddledan> daftykins: with you, it's _always_ the disks
[09:57] <daftykins> nooooo!
[09:57] <daftykins> sometimes it's the capacitors!
[09:58] <diddledan> :-o
[09:58] <diddledan> omg
[09:58] <davmor2> diddledan: yeah but they were only categorisable after they were successful up until then they were meh
[09:58] <daftykins> i know! not a one trick pony after all
[09:58] <daftykins> i can murder other things too! er i mean diagnose..
[09:58] <diddledan> you call that a trick?
[09:58] <daftykins> yeah let me show you on your new machine...
[09:58]  * daftykins gets up to stroll closer
[09:58] <diddledan> lol
[09:58]  * diddledan makes a sign of the cross to ward-off the evil that approaches
[09:59]  * daftykins sends his cat in his stead
[10:02] <diddledan> cats are the keepers of the underworld
[10:02] <diddledan> that's why you get the egyptians revering them: https://youtu.be/u3XXKF0oDtU?t=86
[10:04] <diddledan> love that movie
[10:05] <diddledan> omg, the llamas got to david!
[10:05] <diddledan> 11:05 ⇐ david_llamas quit<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Ping timeout: 276 seconds
[10:06] <diddledan> I'm somewhat concerned that he appears to be IRCing on a nameserver host tho
[10:06] <daftykins> :D
[10:07] <daftykins> true, he could be bringing every llama into disrepute
[10:09] <diddledan> http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2016/07/select-committee-inquire-concludes-uk-needs-radical-broadband-upgrade.html
[10:11] <daftykins> wow Dido has branched out into telco topics
[10:11] <daftykins> good on her
[10:11] <daftykins> ;)
[10:26] <daftykins> http://www.anandtech.com/show/10510/nvidia-announces-nvidia-titan-x-video-card-1200-available-august-2nd
[10:26] <daftykins> good lord
[10:32] <ali1234> wow, that's actually quite reasonably priced
[10:32] <ali1234> or at least it would be if the pound wasn't in the toilet
[10:33] <daftykins> but then it's tech, so maybe that $1,200 would translate to ripoff Britain £1,200 anyway ;D
[10:33] <ali1234> yeah probably
[10:34] <davmor2> daftykins: no you forgot the state of the £ currently be closer to £2000 ;)
[10:35] <daftykins> :)
[10:37] <diddledan> I'll take two
[10:50] <diddledan> ooh, mr robot season 2 is on amazon prime (uk)
[10:50] <diddledan> they're releasing new episodes every thursday
[10:57] <diddledan> oh dear :-( http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/36866141
[11:00] <diddledan> also pokémon players are a pain: https://twitter.com/SpaldingPolice/status/756263789209784322
[11:05] <diplo> yeah been watching Mr Robot already
[11:06] <Myrtti> I've kinda not gotten it in the first two episodes
[11:06] <Myrtti> first series was somewhat clear cut
[11:06] <diplo> I'd say the same Myrtti
[11:06] <diplo> I thought it was just me :D
[11:07] <diddledan> it's certainly different to the first season
[11:07] <diddledan> if anything it confused me
[11:24] <DJones> diddledan: Just finished the upgrade on my desktop with dual screen, no problems with sticky edges in 16.04, but toggling the switch doesn't make any difference
[11:24] <diddledan> ok, the switch is broke then methinks
[11:25] <DJones> I suspect so, mine was set to off when I upgraded, so presumably has stayed like that regardless of how I change the switch
[11:25] <diddledan> a new install comes with the sticky turned-on so the broken switch means I can't turn it off
[11:25] <diddledan> wonder what package the bug needs to be filed-under
[11:25]  * diddledan searches launchpad to see if there's one already reported
[11:32] <DJones> I couldn't see anything recent, all seem to go back to 14.04 and earlier
[11:35] <diddledan> ok, reporting a new bug on unity-control-center
[11:41] <diddledan> #1605603
[11:42] <diddledan> no bot to give the link?
[11:42] <diddledan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1605603
[11:42] <diddledan> bah
[11:42] <diddledan> dumb bot
[11:45] <DJones> I've just added a comment to confirm what you'd posted
[11:45] <diddledan> thanks :-)
[11:47] <diddledan> david_llamas: your connection is broken
[11:48] <davmor2> diddledan: you need bug in front I think :P
[11:48] <diddledan> o_O
[11:48] <diddledan> as in [BUG] it's broken FIX IT NAO
[11:48] <diddledan> ??
[11:49] <DJones> bug 1605603
[11:49] <diddledan> aah
[11:49] <DJones> Like taht
[11:49] <diddledan> gotcha
[11:49] <diddledan> that was 10 minutes ago. you can't expect me to associate some random references
[11:50] <diddledan> s/some/such/
[11:50] <diddledan> my Brian is that of a goldfish
[11:50] <diddledan> more than 4 minutes and I've forgotten
[11:58] <davmor2> diddledan: sorry I play catchup from time to time on channels this was one of them :P
[12:13] <diddledan> this "xen" fella on ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list really doesn't understand how parallel things happen, you know, in parallel
[12:15] <diddledan> he specifically wants a 5-step startup progress-meter that has the phases he believes are happening serially
[12:16] <diddledan> ref: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2016-July/016777.html
[12:17] <diddledan> "unlocking cryptography" sounds like the kind of thing the NSA would like to have
[12:17] <diddledan> or maybe it's gamification: "achievement unlocked: cryptography"
[12:44] <diddledan> this is a nice feel-good story about a teen who actually sounds coherent: https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/21/boat-thieves-thwarted-by-teens-with-a-phantom-drone/
[12:47] <diddledan> what? netflix works on the pi?!
[12:47] <diddledan> @720p
[12:48] <diddledan> ref: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/tutorial-chromium-netflix-and-another-drm-video-websites/7185
[17:31] <knightwise> Dont you just "Love" the smell of paper when you read a real book? http://imgur.com/a/T7xYm
[17:33] <daftykins> hmmmmmm
[18:10] <knightwise> hey MartijnVdS
[18:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[18:19] <daftykins> lo
[18:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> daftykins, lol
[18:34] <daftykins> ...
[18:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ,,,
[18:36] <knightwise> hmm.. looking for a cheap Thinkpad to use as a test machine
[18:36] <knightwise> any suggestions what might be a good machine ? I want to play around a little bit with kali linux and stuff
[18:37] <daftykins> ah the pen testing itch - probably the only thing that matters there is a wifi card Kali likes, though that only used to matter for packet injection for wifi cracking back in the day
[18:37] <daftykins> Lenovos / IBMs were always notorious for having whitelist BIOSs that only let certain wifi cards work
[18:40] <daftykins> guy i know that loves his Thinkpads says: X220 or T420
[19:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> 1
[19:20] <penguin42> 2
[19:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> 3
[19:21] <zmoylan-pi> b
[19:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> a
[19:21] <zmoylan-pi> &
[19:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and
[19:22] <penguin42> or
[19:22] <SebthreeBQM10HD> you
[19:22] <penguin42> v
[19:22] <SebthreeBQM10HD> i
[19:22] <penguin42> ii
[19:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> gedit
[19:23] <penguin42> vi
[19:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> vim
[19:23] <penguin42> :qa!
[19:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> quality assurance
[19:23] <penguin42> quality street
[19:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> chocolate
[19:24] <penguin42> nothing beats chocolate
[19:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> maybe Linux does :D
[19:24] <penguin42> it's difficult to say which one of them occupies more of my life
[19:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Linux for me
[19:26] <penguin42> probably, but there's a lot of chocolate involved in mine as well :-)
[19:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok you chocolate penguin or big piggy :d
[19:27] <penguin42> a bit of both :-)
[19:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> I do have some chocolate penguins up stairs i THINK
[19:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> a packet, or wait no no I don't
[19:28] <penguin42> you eat them didn't you?
[19:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> went for the kit kats instead, since in that particular shop was more than the usaul price
[19:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> penguin42, I think one pound is about right for a packet of penguins,  not one pound 65
[19:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or so
[19:29] <penguin42> right
[19:30]  * penguin42 has put on a kg or two in the last few weeks working his way through the closing Netto store's 50% off Karen Volf's chocolate bisuits and cakes
[19:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh
[19:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and Netoo hmm I have heard of those, but not sure where my nearest one would be
[19:32] <penguin42> they're mostly up here in the North - and rapidly shutting down; their first few days of 50% off were like the scenes you see when a hurricane or something is coming
[19:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh right
[19:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yeah that would be it
[19:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> then I guess
[19:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> I am in south west so
[19:32] <penguin42> oh probably don't have something as common down there
[19:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> penguin42, hmm mcolls ? but that's not closing
[19:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> w h smith is all over and again not closing
[19:37] <penguin42> SebthreeBQM10HD: WHSmiths hav every odd chocolate pricing; the one in the centre of Manc has ludicrously high prices but often puts the short-dated ones on good offers
[19:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yeah sometimes get a good chocolate deal in w h smith
[19:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but depends on which one to I guess
[19:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> like you seem to be saying
[19:39] <penguin42> mind you this afternoon I had a chocolate ice cream from a closing BHS in liverpool - I've not seen a BHS with a full food section before; full 50% off
[19:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh
[19:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> nice
[19:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ice cream
[20:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> 1
[21:01] <fujisan> help
[21:02] <penguin42> not a bad Beatles song
[21:02] <fujisan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI i bought my gf a dell with ubuntu and then this happened
[21:08] <fujisan> poor girl got trolled by ubuntu
[21:08] <fujisan> :(
[21:08] <fujisan> Ubuntu Causes Girl To Drop Out of College
[21:08] <fujisan> that's like my trolling x infinity
[21:08] <fujisan> and ubuntu wasnt even trying
[21:11] <fujisan> christel jeg elsker deg :)
[21:12] <christel> fujisan: takk
[21:12] <fujisan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc according to this guru penguin42 ubuntu has ethical flaws
[21:13] <fujisan> Richard Stallman
[21:13] <fujisan> :) christel
[21:13] <fujisan> i do like GNU/Linux
[21:14] <fujisan> RMS doesn't like Ubuntu -_-
[21:14] <fujisan> lol is this really true?
[21:14] <fujisan> what he claims that ubuntu is spyware
[21:15] <fujisan> i think freenode needs a software ethics channel
[21:15] <fujisan> and a tribunal
[21:18] <Myrtti> quite old ones, don't you think?
[21:19] <fujisan> Myrtti ?
[21:19] <fujisan> perhaps im not here to troll
[21:19] <fujisan> im going away again next week i work again
[21:19] <fujisan> im a serious person these days
[21:20] <mapps> poor germany, doesnt seem safe there these days
[21:21] <fujisan> yes very sad i have frands in munich read that as well today
[21:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> just saw on bbc one news
[21:21] <fujisan> seems like the world is getting worse all the day im afraid it will escalate soon
[21:21] <fujisan> and that people will turn on eachother
[21:22] <fujisan> i saw this in a movie once
[21:22] <fujisan> the Siege old movie
[21:23] <fujisan> after many terrorist attacks in the movie the military decided to just collect all foreign people or who looked foreign and lock them up wether they committed a crime or not
[21:23] <fujisan> that's my fear
[21:23] <fujisan> every attack that scenario seems to get one step closer
[21:25] <fujisan> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133952/ this movie btw
[21:25] <fujisan> technically it's possible
[21:25] <fujisan> in some countries
[21:25] <mapps> yea these das many attacks recently
[21:26] <mapps> look at the axe attac, the truck in france
[21:26] <mapps> all recent
[21:26] <fujisan> scary times
[21:27] <zmoylan-pi> terrorism attacks are about publicity.  for all their showiness you are still far more likely to be hurt by car accident, tumble at home
[21:27] <fujisan> lol that's not my fear
[21:28] <fujisan> as stated above eventually you might get martial law declared
[21:28] <fujisan> like they had in Brussels
[21:29] <fujisan> that seems really horrible to me
[21:29] <mapps> ya more likely maybe zmoylan-pi
[21:29] <mapps> its still bad
[21:29] <mapps> fujisan,  but if somewhere isnt safe have to do something
[21:29] <fujisan> a girl from my class was in a car accident she didnt survive
[21:29] <fujisan> i was in school with her for many years
[21:30] <mapps> ;[
[21:30] <fujisan> i know i have a severe social phobia
[21:30] <fujisan> was in therapy for many years
[21:30] <zmoylan-pi> you can pick your age group to see what is most likely to be your cause of death... http://visual.ons.gov.uk/what-are-the-top-causes-of-death-by-age-and-gender/
[21:30] <mapps> pff dont want to
[21:31] <mapps> morbid heh
[21:31] <fujisan> when im going to work in the train to commute i also have fears when people bring in huge suitcases
[21:31] <fujisan> this paranoia is the worse actually
[21:32] <fujisan> on airports they at least check luggage but on the trains they dont
[21:33] <mapps> started blododline s2 nw
[21:33] <mapps> cool series
[21:33] <fujisan> im more into reading these days
[21:34] <fujisan> limit my tv watching 2 eps per week
[22:01] <fujisan> Myrtti  do you like bulletproof coffee?
[22:04] <fujisan> nvm i shouldnt have asked
[23:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi


[01:36] <Arpad2> hello
[01:37] <Arpad2> front mic doesnt work
[10:04] <Ileden> Hi! My problem is that my battery on my AA1 laptop reports constant 0%, so whenever I disconnect power cord, I get an annoying dialog about low power with "shutdown" as the default selection, even though the battery is in fact fully charged. How can I turn off xfce power management from giving this dialog?
[10:05] <Ileden> (yes, the battery is old and has only around 40 mins of power on full charge anymore, but 40min is still plenty of time)
[10:07] <Sysi> you could kill powermanager or prevent it from starting..
[10:14] <Ileden> how do i perent it from starting?
[10:15] <Sysi> settings → session and startup
[10:15] <Sysi> and: rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions
[11:15] <sivang> hi all
[11:16] <sivang> has anyone seen jani?
[11:16] <sivang> is he still xubuntu lead?
[13:28] <LogicalDash> I want my left Win key to be a Compose key. I can accomplish this easy enough by going into Keyboard Layouts and using the dropdown under Compose key position. But xfce seems to forget that setting whenever I restart. What do?
[13:29] <TheSheep> LogicalDash: edit /etc/default/console-setup
[13:29] <TheSheep> or run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup'
[13:33] <LogicalDash> TheSheep, thanks
[13:56] <rgnr> hi
[13:56] <rgnr> any1 uses smartphones 7
[13:56] <Sysi> what do you mean?
[13:58] <TheSheep> not with xubuntu
[16:10] <slow-motion> hi
[18:09] <Arpad2> hello
[18:10] <Arpad2> my microphone doesnt work from the front plug, how to fix it?
[18:10]  * xGrind is away: academia
[18:10] <Sysi> Arpad2: have you checked mixer
[18:11] <Arpad2> well, I looked into it
[18:11] <Sysi> alsa has many sliders
[18:11] <Arpad2> but perhaps i missed sth:)
[18:12] <Arpad2> in mixer is switch for fron mic, which i set to max, but in vain, no result
[18:13] <Arpad2> my codec is Realtec ALC882
[20:18] <brot> i am running maverick right now, and xfce4-terminal makes use X 100% of 1 core.
[20:18] <Sysi> i think it's filed as bug
[20:19] <knome> !ubuntu+1
[20:19] <brot> those guys are busy :)
[20:19] <charlie-tca> bug 633085
[20:19] <brot> i already asked the question there and i thought i may ask here.
[20:20] <brot> thanks charlie-tca and Sysi :)
[20:25]  * xGrind-oFF is back (gone 02:15:07)
[20:30] <knome> !away | xGrind-oFF
[20:34] <xGrind-oFF> knome ok
[20:35] <knome> xGrind, thanks
[20:35] <knome> xGrind, please also turn off your awayscript :)
[20:37] <xGrind> yes ;D
[20:37] <knome> xGrind, thanks again
[21:16] <slow-motion> n8


[01:25] <xubuntu948> Good night
[01:25] <xubuntu948> sorry someone speaks Spanish?
[03:20] <xubuntu172> hello
[13:32] <jack_the_strippe> Hi. I'm a bit desperate: Can someone tell me what's the command to open the whisker menu? I need it in order to configure shortcuts (i.e. Meta key to open it).
[13:34] <jack_the_strippe> Nevermind, just found out. It's "xfce4-popup-whiskermenu"
[15:51] <DriedOrange> Planning to buy a new ultrabook with 24gb ssd cache. Dual-boot Xubuntu and Windows. Will both OS'es be able to use the ssd cache automatically?
[15:52] <Sysi> intel smart cache orwhatsit only works on windows
[15:58] <DriedOrange> Sysi, so Xubuntu won't be able to take advantage of the ssd cache?
[15:59] <Sysi> DriedOrange: nope, you could install xubuntu on ssd but then it wouldn't work as cache for windows AFAIK
[16:00] <DriedOrange> Sysi, Alright, thanks.
[16:01] <Sysi> just never close anything if you have enough RAM :P
[16:03] <DriedOrange> Sysi, I will probably choose a different Ultrabook instead.
[16:03] <Sysi> that works too
[16:15] <ner0x> Is there a way to use Alt+Shift+KEY for shortcuts? It doesn't seem to allow me to do it.
[17:16]  * nerxubuntu487 waves
[17:16]  * nerxubuntu487 says : Hi
[17:17]  * nerxubuntu487 wonders if anyone is asleep.
[17:17] <Pici> No one has any problems :)
[17:19]  * nerxubuntu487 is waiting for the installation to finish configuring the bcmwl-kernel
[17:19]  * nerxubuntu487 lookst at his watch and notices that it has been doing that for 10 minutes.
[17:21] <GridCube> nerxubuntu487: talks about himself in third person
[17:21]  * nerxubuntu487 is being tired
[17:21] <nerxubuntu487> Hi GridCube
[17:22] <GridCube> !hi | nerxubuntu487
[17:27] <basiclaser> native traktor on ubuntu/xubuntu/debian?
[17:32] <GridCube> what¿?
[17:36] <elfy> basiclaser: traktor is a windows application
[17:36] <Sysi> I think on mac too, but no linux afaik
[17:37] <elfy> probably is sysi - never looked for it there - bronze in wine appdb so I'd not hold out much help
[17:39] <Sysi> (of this wasn't offtopic)
[18:39] <nerxubuntu487> How long does it take to configure the kernel-source?
[19:23] <xubuntu240> hello there
[19:23] <Unit193> Howdy.
[19:24] <xubuntu240> I just installed xubuntu and heve some probs whot wireless
[19:24] <xubuntu240> now connected on wired conn
[19:25] <xubuntu240> when disconecting wire i cant see any psossible connectons
[19:25] <Unit193> What wireless card do you have?
[19:25] <xubuntu240> my pc heve wifi antenna
[19:25] <xubuntu240> i dont know
[19:25] <xubuntu240> : ]
[19:25] <xubuntu240> i just today get used laptop
[19:26] <xubuntu240> how to check what card i heve  ?
[19:26] <Unit193> If it's a PCI card, lspci
[19:26] <xubuntu240> p.s sorry for bad english
[19:27] <Unit193> Sure, you're doing well enough for me to understand, and that's what counts.
[19:30] <xubuntu240> hmm
[19:30] <xubuntu240> i not relly good on computers
[19:30] <xubuntu240> but i try to find out what wireless card i heve
[19:33] <xubuntu240> Network Card 	Ethernet 10/100BT integrated Wireless Connectivity 	802.11 b/g WLAN
[19:33] <xubuntu240> this is what u wnat to know  ?
[19:36] <xubuntu240> Unit193
[19:37] <xubuntu240> are u here
[19:37] <xubuntu240> ?
[19:37] <Unit193> xubuntu240: Howdy, kind of need to know the chipset.  You can also open software sources, and jump to the "Additional Drivers" tab.
[19:44] <genii> I guess now we'll never know.
[19:44] <Unit193> I had gone off to read news. :(
[19:54] <xubuntu701> its saying for me that No propietary drivers is in use
[19:55] <xubuntu701> unit193 or i lookd in wrong place  ?
[19:55] <Unit193> Yeah, that's not helpful to you.  Can you open a terminal and type   lspci   ?
[19:55] <xubuntu701> yap
[19:55] <Unit193> lspci | pastebinit  will output a url.
[19:57] <xubuntu701> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5937587/
[19:57] <Unit193> ...And additional drivers didn't find it?  What a crappy thing it's become.
[19:57] <Unit193> !bcm
[19:58] <Unit193> BCM4311 is what you have, which is Broadcom.
[19:58]  * genii tries to refrain from retching
[19:59] <xubuntu701> thanx a lot
[19:59] <xubuntu701> : ]
[20:00] <xubuntu701> so i heve crappy wireless card  ?
[20:00] <genii> xubuntu701: Frankly, yes.
[20:01] <Unit193> BCM isn't so bad really, and jockey used to pick it up too.
[20:01] <xubuntu701> But i cen replace that card to better once or its not possible  ?
[20:02] <xubuntu701> eh still here is old hp g5000 laptop and i just heve get used to it  : ]
[21:10] <_DeLa_> hi there
[21:12] <_DeLa_> i am using xubuntu 12.04 and libreoffice. right now, i am using the latest libreoffice ppa for 4.x version but i found them too buggy. Can I just deactivate this ppa, install the ppa for the more stable 3.6 libreoffice version, update the system and have it working? is this way of changing ppa okay?
[21:12] <Unit193> !ppapurge
[21:13] <_DeLa_> unit193: so first purge, and then install the new ppa?
[21:14] <Unit193> That's the best way.
[21:17] <_DeLa_> Unit193: thanks...hmm...errm...well, is this ppa-purge command safe? can it cause problems?
[21:20] <_DeLa_> well... nothing is really "safe" anyway...
[21:20] <_DeLa_> at least not 100%
[21:21] <Unit193> I've used it, it takes a diff and reverts packages to the version in the repo.
[21:23] <_DeLa_> it takes a diff? - sorry what does that mean?
[21:28] <_DeLa_> Unit193: it takes a diff? - sorry what does that mean?
[21:29] <Unit193> Basically, takes a look at the sources.
[21:33] <_DeLa_> ok. thanks
[22:20] <Djmann1013> What are the system requirements to run Xubuntu, and is it exactly like Ubuntu?
[22:21] <Unit193> Not exactly like Ubuntu, that'd kind of make it Ubuntu....  Generally, 512M of ram, what is your system?
[22:23] <Djmann1013> My system I plan on installing it on to is: 896MB og RAM, AMD Anthlon 64 processor, and the graphics card is unknown
[22:24] <holstein> Djmann1013: try it live... should be fine
[22:25] <Djmann1013> holstein Will the regular Ubuntu work as well?
[22:26] <holstein> Djmann1013: try it live.. should be fine, though, i would expect arguably "better" results with XFCE since it doesnt require 3d
[22:34] <nathanesau1> hello?
[22:35] <nathanesau1> so i accidentally replaced windows 7 with ubuntu rather than running it alongside
[22:35] <nathanesau1> i currently have 4 partitions on my harddrive
[22:35] <holstein> nathanesau1: you can shrink the partition, and install windows beside
[22:35] <holstein> !grub
[22:36] <nathanesau1> i did that holstein
[22:36] <holstein> moondoggie: ^^ there will be instructions for recovering grub after installing windows
[22:36] <nathanesau1> i shrunk the partition
[22:36] <nathanesau1> i will tell you what my partitons are:
[22:36] <holstein> nathanesau1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows specifically
[22:37] <nathanesau1> 1  for linux swap, 1 ntfs for windows, 1 ext4 for linux, 1 fat32
[22:37] <nathanesau1> no you dont understand, i have ubuntu installed and i want to install windows
[22:37] <nathanesau1> not the other way around
[22:38] <holstein> nathanesau1: those instructions are for, after you have installed ubuntu, *then* installed windows, and windwos has removed grub..
[22:38] <nathanesau1> i havent installed windows yet though
[22:38] <nathanesau1> thats what im trying to do...
[22:38] <holstein> nathanesau1: aftert you do, windows *will* blow out grub. you can then refer to the link i gave
[22:39] <nathanesau1> no, i was wondering HOW to install windows after installing ubuntu
[22:39] <holstein> assuming you dont have a system restore disc that will not allow that
[22:39] <nathanesau1> its proving rather difficult
[22:39] <nathanesau1> i have windows 7 on a winusb boot stick
[22:39] <holstein> nathanesau1: i have no idea.. depends on what disc you have, and what microsoft allows you to do with it
[22:39] <nathanesau1> which i put the iso on
[22:39] <nathanesau1> but then do you  need to modify the bios settings???
[22:39] <holstein> nathanesau1: if its a system restore disc, then it will blow out the entire drive
[22:40] <holstein> nathanesau1: the bios settings will be what they ned to be to boot whatever needs to be booted
[22:40] <holstein> likely a CD
[22:40] <nathanesau1> no but the problem is, the system restore disc wont execute
[22:40] <holstein> nathanesau1: maybe its bad
[22:40] <nathanesau1> i dont think so
[22:40] <holstein> nathanesau1: have you *ever* seen it boot? if not, then it could be bad
[22:41] <nathanesau1> um... is there any way i can completely wipe my pc; i.e. remove everything, all OS, and then install windows
[22:41] <nathanesau1> because i cant uninstall ubuntu while in ubuntu
[22:41] <holstein> nathanesau1: there is not need to uninstall ubuntu
[22:41] <holstein> nathanesau1: you load up whatever disc you have, and do what it can do.. the windows disc wont have a lot of options
[22:42] <holstein> nathanesau1: you can either wipe out the whole drive and start over, or install windows beside ubuntu, and recover grub from the link i gave
[22:42] <nathanesau1> i kind of want to just wipe out the whole drive
[22:42] <nathanesau1> i was wondering if you know how to do that
[22:43] <holstein> nathanesau1: do what you want, with what is allowed by whatever disc you have
[22:43] <nathanesau1> then i would install : windows, folllowed by ubuntu using the desktop installer
[22:43] <holstein> nathanesau1: the ubuntu installer will allow that
[23:42] <Golfgeo> Hi all
[23:43] <Golfgeo> got a question: Is there an install log on a xubuntu installed machine? Want to duplicate all the options of a surtain machine for another machine...
[23:58] <xubuntu018> testing
[23:58] <xubuntu018> how do i change my name
[23:59] <Unit193> /nick newnickhere
[23:59] <Golfgeo> whith /nick somethinghere
[23:59] <Golfgeo> I think atleast
[23:59] <frosteeeeh> thanks