[05:38] <dylanrogers> DonL, AMAZING
[05:38] <persia> EasterSunshine: uim-applet-gnome, uim-anthy,
[05:38] <vortek> EasterSunshine : and do apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[05:38] <drewfus> anyone?
[05:38] <dylanrogers> DonL, you're lucky....i live with my girlfriend and thank god she knew linux before i did
[05:38] <drewfus> how do i burn an iso?
[05:38] <dylanrogers> lol i fucked that machine up
[05:38] <DonL> lol
[05:38] <zeus1_> LOL
[05:38] <zeus1_> a girl that can use linux lmao
[05:38] <EasterSunshine> vortek: if you are upgrading from warty, then yes, just replace warty with hoary in sources.list
[05:38] <vortek> hrm i wonder If I should try unstable on a 1.1 ghz laptop
[05:39] <dylanrogers> zeus1_, shes really hot tho....
[05:39] <EasterSunshine> vortek: and do that upgrade stuff
[05:39] <dylanrogers> lol
[05:39] <persia> vortek: From what distribution are you upgrading?
[05:39] <vortek> word
[05:39] <zeus1_> sry...in my experiences women+technology = RUNNN
[05:39] <vortek> warty
[05:39] <drewfus> a girlfriend that knows more about linux than a guy? awesome
[05:39] <vortek> persia warty
[05:39] <zeus1_> ya ... amen to that brotha
[05:39] <vortek> im having to many issues with synaptics touch pad and such
[05:39] <zeus1_> lol
[05:39] <DonL> zeus1_, not so uncommon really
[05:39] <vortek> none of the google results show any thing that works
[05:39] <Madpilot> drewfus: for burning ISO, check the wiki
[05:39] <zeus1_> u for real
[05:39] <drewfus> thats like my friend who says the day he finds a girl who kicks his ass at battelfield or halo hes marrying her
[05:39] <persia> vortek: Yes, you can just change the sources, and run `sudo aptitude dist-upgrade`
[05:39] <drewfus> ok thanks Madpilot
[05:39] <vortek> and I want the latest
[05:39] <dylanrogers> zeus1_, well i just installed ubuntu as my first linux distro this morning
[05:40] <zeus1_> same dylan
[05:40] <EasterSunshine> where do you find girls that know linux?
[05:40] <dylanrogers> i kinda dont remember the last distro name
[05:40] <EasterSunshine> they sure as hell don't live on earth
[05:40] <zeus1_> i just install ubuntu this morning
[05:40] <vortek> persia : ill just use apt-get dist-upgrade :)
[05:40] <dylanrogers> EasterSunshine, my school
[05:40] <mjr> EasterSunshine, at the local CS department ;)
[05:40] <vortek> persia : how stable is unstable lol I mean is it as stable as debian unstalbe wich is pretty much stable
[05:40] <dylanrogers> EasterSunshine, Loyola University Chicago.
[05:40] <EasterSunshine> (no offense to anyone)
[05:40] <vortek> unstalbe=unstable
[05:40] <persia> vortek: Hoary is stable.  Breezy is broken.
[05:40] <vortek> k
[05:41] <EasterSunshine> dylanrogers: don't tell me what school you go to...i might be here to abduct you
[05:41] <dylanrogers> EasterSunshine, i see......hmmm.
[05:41] <dylanrogers> EasterSunshine, thats not good
[05:41] <kevogod> I go to Anne Mary Pitsch Elementary
[05:41] <FatBat> Hi how do I set xine to be my default media player?
[05:41] <DonL> Well, I must go folks. Hope you get your sound working zeus. I know you will
[05:41] <EasterSunshine> dylanrogers: i now have enough information to track you down and kidnap you...
[05:42] <Madpilot> EasterSunshine: stop scaring the newbies... ;)
[05:42] <EasterSunshine> dylanrogers: the internet is full of dangerous ppl, be careful
[05:42] <dabaR> EasterSunshine: dfor example, you install linux on some girls computer...and you give them your email adress, you set up an admin axccount for yourself, and you set up dynamic dns on their comptuer.
[05:42] <dabaR> Also, you give her your ph#.
[05:42] <zombics> ther is a way to eject a cdrom when he's being in use?
[05:42] <dabaR> so, she can have support.
[05:42] <kevogod> Also, you set up VNC on her computer
[05:42] <vortek> is there an easy way to get ride of gnome and replace it with another wm ?
[05:42] <dabaR> and, then, she learns fast, cause she wants to use the comptuer, and you can ssh into it to fix it...
[05:42] <kevogod> so you can watch her every move
[05:43] <dabaR> haha.
[05:43] <dylanrogers> EasterSunshine, are you really this killer?
[05:43] <EasterSunshine> kevogod, dabaR: ...
[05:43] <dabaR> ya, then hyou can read her logs.
[05:43] <EasterSunshine> dylanrogers: ...
[05:43] <persia> vortek: It's easy to install another wm, and not use GNOME.  Why do you want to remove it, are you low on space?
[05:43] <Madpilot> kevogod: there's a line somewhere between tech support and stalking... :)
[05:43] <dylanrogers> EasterSunshine, perhaps one that rides a rhino and shoots gumballs from a Super Soaker?
[05:43] <dabaR> EasterSunshine: this is something I did a few days ago.
[05:43] <EasterSunshine> dylanrogers: i am not gonna do anything, don't worry, i'm just showing you that you are doing things pretty dangerously
[05:43] <kevogod> Madpilot: Well you only turn on viewing, duh.
[05:43] <EasterSunshine> dabaR: seriously? how did it work out?
[05:43] <dylanrogers> EasterSunshine, are there really that many scary folks online?
[05:44] <dabaR> Ill bring her over now.
[05:44] <EasterSunshine> dylanrogers: on irc, yes
[05:44] <EasterSunshine> dylanrogers: maybe not on this server though
[05:44] <dabaR> EasterSunshine: so far so good.
[05:44] <dylanrogers> EasterSunshine, well images do not show up on IRC....its all text
[05:44] <kevogod> They are all in #ubuntu-unregged.
[05:44] <dabaR> I can ssh over to her box at any time, cause I know the domain name, and I have a user name.
[05:45] <EasterSunshine> you kids are inside...to the membrane
[05:45] <drewfus> Madpilot, the reason i asked is because its not working, and all the wiki says is follow the instructions
[05:45] <zeus1_> wehn will breezy be released
[05:45] <vortek> persia : it needs udev wich makes my new kernel take 3 minutes to boot cause it says  , initializing device modes , right before it boots and hangs for like 3 minutes literly
[05:45] <dylanrogers> zeus1_, october
[05:45] <zeus1_> oh
[05:45] <dabaR> EasterSunshine: thats how you do stuff.
[05:45] <persia> zeus1_: On or around October 10th (I think)
[05:45] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell zeus1_ about release
[05:45] <zeus1_> so breezy has got the skills to put the thrills on the chills bill right
[05:45] <dabaR> zeus1_: each six months there is a release. in october, and in april.
[05:45] <vortek> persia : the whole reason i switched and made a new optimized kernel was to speed up the laptop and boot time :P
[05:45] <dabaR> persia: there is a date on the web site somewhere, I think on the wiki.
[05:46] <dabaR> persia: and its after the 20th, I believe.
[05:46] <EasterSunshine> dabaR: and she approves of it?
[05:46] <EasterSunshine> dabaR: if i were her, that would be an invasion of my privacy
[05:46] <kevogod> So far, Ubuntu has met its release deadlines and I am loving them for it.
[05:46] <persia> vortek: OK.  I don't recommend trying to pull gnome out, as there are a *lot* of dependencies.  On the other hand, if you install xfce or wm or something, you can select that in gdm, and the gnome session and dsktop will not load.
[05:46] <zeus1_> so whats new in breezy
[05:46] <dabaR> approves of what?   Does your card show when you look at the output of `aplay -l`?
[05:49] <drewfus> if it sold its not full open source
[05:49] <drewfus> right?
[05:49] <nickrud> :)
[05:49] <zeus1_> persia:  yes....the card shows
[05:50] <dabaR> drewfus: wrong.
[05:50] <kevogod> drewfus: No
[05:50] <drewfus> damn
[05:50] <persia> zeus1_: Oops: that was supposed to be http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[05:50] <zeus1_> what about red hat
[05:50] <drewfus> i was trying to sound like i knew what i was saying
[05:50] <drewfus> :-D
[05:50] <vortek> persia : I just want to remove udev
[05:50] <zeus1_> thats not free is it
[05:50] <Madpilot> drewfus: people sell open source apps all the time - you can buy Ubuntu from people, if you really wanted to
[05:50] <persia> zeus1_: And it is Card 0?
[05:50] <zeus1_> yes
[05:50] <vortek> persia : it makes my kernel take like 3minutes to boot and gnome depends on it
[05:50] <drewfus> that hardly counts
[05:50] <dabaR> drewfus: read on it, there is http://www.debian.org/intro/free
[05:50] <zeus1_> umm
[05:50] <zeus1_> is fluxbox better than gnome
[05:50] <kevogod> Real men release their code as public domain.
[05:50] <zeus1_> my friend says get fluxbox or i wont learn anything about linux
[05:51] <drewfus> i trust you its too late for reading
[05:51] <persia> vortek: Removing udev from ubuntu is very painful.  It can be done, but you'll need to modify many packages.
[05:51] <dabaR> zeus1_: that is not a good question. it is different, and is used for a different thing.
[05:51] <zeus1_> and i have it .... but i find it much harder to use than gnome
[05:51] <EasterSunshine> kevogod: and ppl like me obfuscate the code first
[05:51] <drewfus> anyways im having a lot of trouble burning an iso
[05:51] <drewfus> can anyone help
[05:51] <dabaR> drewfus: I dont think its ever too late for reading.
[05:51] <vortek> persia  ouch
[05:51] <dabaR> drewfus: in ubuntu?
[05:51] <drewfus> im illiterate then
[05:51] <drewfus> yeah
[05:51] <dabaR> why not right click on it and select burn to cd?
[05:52] <drewfus> i guess its hanging unless im doing it wrong
[05:52] <vortek> persia : there must be  a way to stop the kernel from taking three minutes on "initialize device modes"
[05:52] <kevogod> EasterSunshine: So you are the one who leaked the Win2000 source?
[05:52] <vortek> it does it on the custom kernels
[05:52] <persia> vortek: Install less hardware :)
[05:52] <dabaR> zeus1_: your friend is a pretend-cool-geek.
[05:52] <vortek> vortek : i did tht
[05:52] <vortek> erps
[05:52] <vortek> persia i did that
[05:52] <zeus1_> lol
[05:52] <vortek> persia the problem is udev creats like 50 or more /dev/'s
[05:53] <dabaR> zeus1_: they always try to push stupid ideas like that, oh, kde is better than gnome, or you gotta use emacs or you dont learn anything, blah.
[05:53] <vortek> and it just hangs there on that statement for 3 minutes
[05:53] <crimsun> zeus1_: what do you need?
[05:53] <EasterSunshine> kevogod: doze2k source code is leaked?!
[05:53] <zeus1_> he told me that ubuntu sux and that hes getting gentoo
[05:53] <vortek> persia : and it basicly locks up
[05:53] <zeus1_> :(
[05:53] <dabaR> typical.
[05:53] <drewfus> am i burning wrong? i click burn to cd and it just sits at 1/5
[05:53] <vortek> persia : the kernel dont boot till itsdone and its like the 3rd line on reboot
[05:53] <kevogod> EasterSunshine: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/Feb04/02-12windowssource.mspx
[05:53] <zeus1_> crimsun!
[05:53] <persia> vortek: OK.  It really shouldn't take three minutes, especially as all the nodes should be created in tmpfs.
[05:53] <zeus1_> hey man my sound is NOT working
[05:53] <vortek> persia : yeah thats what im saying
[05:53] <vortek> persia : I need to find the glitch
[05:54] <vortek> persia : but I guess Ill do that 2morrow
[05:54] <dabaR> are you using linux, yes, did you learn anything since you started using it? yes. ok, then you learned something about linux.
[05:54] <vortek> dabaR lol
[05:54] <dabaR> abnyhow, later.
[05:54] <kevogod> This is my favorite part of it:
[05:54] <kevogod> "On Monday, February 16, Microsoft began investigating a reported exploit on versions of Internet Explorer allegedly discovered by an individual studying the leaked source code."
[05:55] <zeus1_> crimsun: im using nvidia soundforce card and plantronics USB DSP 500 headset
[05:55] <zeus1_> im getting absolutly no sound
[05:56] <drewfus> can someone help me burn an iso? its not working
[05:56] <paulw> is there a way to hook your frontside audio cables to a soundblaster live card?
[05:57] <ce33na> drewfus: what are you using
[05:57] <crimsun> zeus1_: cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:57] <drewfus> ubuntu?
[05:57] <paulw> or can you only plug frontpanel into mboard?
[05:57] <dabaR> drewfus: you are using nautilus.
[05:57] <drewfus> ok im using nautilus
[05:58] <zeus1_> crimsun: ok...I saw my sound card come up
[05:58] <ce33na> drewfus: cdrecord -v -pad dev=/dev/hdc whateveryouhavenamedthefile.iso
[05:58] <persia> paulw: (generic statement) Many cards have headers for remote audio ports.  If these don't work, you can also purchase cables that connect the rear ports to the jumpers.
[05:58] <durt> wow - yall are stiill having sound problems huh
[05:58] <zeus1_> ye
[05:58] <dabaR> durt, where are you from?
[05:58] <zeus1_> but my man crimsun is here...hopefully he can help
[05:58] <crimsun> zeus1_: paste the output in #flood
[05:58] <drewfus> ce33na, so right clicking doesnt work
[05:59] <ce33na> thats from the command line
[05:59] <vortek> thanxs for the help all :D :D
[05:59] <durt> dabar: north america
[05:59] <dabaR> no, I mean, texas, or where?
[05:59] <durt> delaware
[05:59] <dabaR> What state is that in, durt?
[05:59] <dabaR> just asking cause you said yall.
[06:00] <dabaR> is delaware a state?
[06:00] <durt> dabar: i always say yall
[06:00] <zeus1_> crimsun: maybe this will work better http://pastebin.com/348185
[06:00] <durt> lol
[06:00] <durt> where the hell are you from dabar, mars?
[06:00] <paulw> my front panel audio can connect to my mboard just fine, the problem is i can't get my onboard audio to work with linux
[06:00] <dabaR> Im in WInnipeg, Canada right now, originally form Croatia, in Europe.
[06:01] <dabaR> and, you guys have too many states for me to know.
[06:01] <dabaR> like, 50, or 52 or something.
[06:01] <crimsun> zeus1_: I need amixer output, too
[06:01] <drewfus> ce33na, how do i check which drive it is
[06:01] <nickrud> dabaR, not fair :)
[06:01] <dabaR> I dont know much n.a. geography.
[06:01] <durt> yes delaware is a little tiny state
[06:01] <drewfus> ce33na, nm
[06:01] <dabaR> nickrud: how so?
[06:02] <zeus1_> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/348186
[06:02] <ce33na> drewfus: try it. it will either work or give an error message
[06:02] <nickrud> um, well, hiding more than you know? ;P
[06:02] <ce33na> may need to do it sudo
[06:03] <drewfus> it said no such directory
[06:03] <ce33na> drewfus
[06:03] <dabaR> nickrud: I really dont know much n.a. geography at all as you just saw, probably.
[06:04] <drewfus> im sure i got the path righ ce33na
[06:04] <EasterSunshine> postfix is reponsible for sending mail when i use kmail, mutt, or evolution, or thunderbird?
[06:04] <dabaR> Ok, I predict he has to mute IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA.
[06:04] <ce33na> drewfus: do me a favor and put a data cd in. after it mounts, type df at the command line
[06:04] <durt> yeah mute all those iec things
[06:04] <ce33na> that will tell you all mounted filesystems
[06:04] <paulw> how do you mute IEC958?
[06:05] <dabaR> paulw: I was not talking about your issue.
[06:05] <drewfus> i know its hdd
[06:05] <ce33na> ok.
[06:05] <drewfus> slave on secondary ide
[06:05] <ce33na> what is the name of the iso file
[06:05] <dabaR> good thinking.
[06:05] <zeus1_> http://www.astreet.com/article.php?sid=221
[06:05] <zeus1_> old article but funny
[06:06] <drewfus> /home/drew/desktop/XP2VOL_EN.iso
[06:06] <ce33na> try this....
[06:06] <EasterSunshine> shame on you drewfus...
[06:06] <drewfus> oh
[06:06] <drewfus> i think i see
[06:06] <crimsun> zeus1_: amixer sset 'External Amplifier' on
[06:06] <drewfus> :-D
[06:07] <drewfus> sorry im an ass
[06:07] <drewfus> im used to the windows world where caps dont matter
[06:07] <ce33na> sudo cdrecord -v -pad dev=/dev/hdd pathtoimage.iso
[06:07] <ce33na> and yes...caps matter
[06:07] <drewfus> its working now
[06:07] <ce33na> I didn't see what you were burning....right?
[06:08] <Madpilot> drewfus: spelling counts in Linux - so does capitalization! ;)
[06:08] <drewfus> did i spell something wrong? Madpilot
[06:08] <EasterSunshine> why would someone make an os that isn't case sensitive? aside from n00b friendliness, it boggles my mind...
[06:08] <zeus1_> crimsun: now what do I do
[06:08] <kevogod> Don't know how to spell? Learn to use the tab key!
[06:08] <drewfus> ce33na, im going to dual boot
[06:08] <crimsun> any noise?
[06:08] <drewfus> ce33na, so no you didnt see
[06:08] <ce33na> drewfus: what did you use to make the iso
[06:08] <zeus1_> crimsun: no noise
[06:08] <drewfus> i copied my other cd of windows xp pro ce33na
[06:09] <drewfus> :-)
[06:09] <ce33na> what program
[06:09] <drewfus> i dont remember
[06:09] <ce33na> next time try this
[06:09] <kevogod> EasterSunshine: Because in the English language there is no difference between a capitalized letter and a lowercase letter. They are the same letter.
[06:09] <durt> no they arent
[06:09] <ce33na> dd if=/dev/hdd of=foo.iso
[06:09] <drewfus> whats that
[06:09] <EasterSunshine> kevogod: unix is in english as well...
[06:10] <ce33na> command line iso creation...substitue foo for whatever you want to call the image
[06:10] <drewfus> huh?
[06:10] <EasterSunshine> kevogod: for example, cat is short for concaternate, and man is short for manual
[06:10] <crimsun> zeus1_: what sound device are you using by default?
[06:10] <ce33na> ok...your not ready for that
[06:10] <drewfus> no
[06:11] <ce33na> it skips the fancy crutches
[06:11] <zeus1_> what sound device?? umm....how do I check
[06:11] <kevogod> Yes, but to the average person, "Cat" and "cat" are the same.
[06:11] <drewfus> oh, i depend on crutches i have no linux legs
[06:11] <crimsun> zeus1_: as in are your speakers plugged into the onboard?
[06:11] <ce33na> :)
[06:11] <drewfus> in fact i need a linux wheelchair
[06:11] <zeus1_> i think...
[06:12] <EasterSunshine> kevogod: hm..i'm understanding now, windows is made for the casual user
[06:12] <ce33na> "dd" stands for data dump
[06:12] <drewfus> not an automatic one though, im not that dependent :-)
[06:12] <drewfus> ok
[06:12] <cornflake> is breezy considered unstable?
[06:12] <zeus1_> i think
[06:12] <EasterSunshine> kevogod: i'm too used to unix, to understand my doze does everything so stupidly
[06:12] <rob^> cornflake, yes
[06:12] <holycow> cornflake, until its releases yes
[06:12] <drewfus> now how can i verify that cd? ce33na
[06:12] <EasterSunshine> later
[06:12] <kevogod> ciao
[06:12] <ce33na> run it
[06:12] <ce33na> :)
[06:12] <cornflake> rob^: well.... i want to know how to downgrade then
[06:13] <rob^> cornflake, either don't, or just reinstall
[06:13] <ce33na> there is a way...I havent explored it yet
[06:13] <drewfus> i think i saw something in the wiki about verifying
[06:13] <cornflake> rob^: main thing is that i fucked up my x server
[06:13] <ce33na> seems like you could do a checksum or something...I'm not up on that
[06:13] <drewfus> thanks for your help ce
[06:14] <ce33na> np
[06:14] <drewfus> ce33na, ^^^
[06:14] <durt> breezy works well cornflake
[06:14] <crimsun> zeus1_: please make sure
[06:14] <rob^> cornflake, just to: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:14] <cornflake> rob^: thanx
[06:14] <ce33na> I just find the command line easier for making cds and iso images
[06:14] <durt> rob^: that is always the answer ;)
[06:14] <rob^> heh
[06:15] <dabaR> there is no easy way to downgrade, cornflake. if you xserver is borked, first thing you can try is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and reconfigure that.
[06:15] <zeus1_> crimsun : WAIT its not plugged in....um where do u plug it in lol idk that physical computer stuff and my dads asleep :(
[06:15] <crimsun> zeus1_: um...into the line-out/speaker-out jack
[06:16] <cornflake> rob^: how much memory should i give a video card?
[06:16] <zeus1_> h/o let me mess wit some stuff
[06:16] <durt> however much it has
[06:16] <durt> or just skip it cornflake
[06:16] <cornflake> durt: thanx
[06:16] <dabaR> dead chan.
[06:16] <dabaR> !test
[06:16] <ubotu> Crashed.
[06:16] <dabaR> !something
[06:16] <ubotu> see http://something.com for a good way to waste time
[06:17] <zeus1_> SHIT!!!  i was getting down to find that jack and i hit my knee hard on the computer and i think i broke the face plate of the pc case!!!
[06:19] <deFrysk> pc with a broken nose
[06:20] <rob^> nickrud, theres a howto somewhere
[06:20] <tejas> does anyone know an equivalent of kjobviewer fo Ubuntu?
[06:21] <durt> look at gnomefiles.org tejas
[06:21] <tejas> durt, thanks
[06:23] <zeus1_> um wheres the speaker out jack
[06:23] <candlelight> anyone, how to choose what to install with ubuntu installation cd?
[06:24] <deFrysk> candlelight, its easyer to uninstall after install
[06:24] <volvoguy> candlelight, you could try the expert install. otherwise the installer just installs everything.
[06:26] <cornflake> thanx guys!
[06:27] <zeus1_> crimsun!
[06:27] <zeus1_> I plugged in the speakers
[06:27] <candlelight> deFrysk, volvoguy, thanks.  which doc says about expert install?
[06:27] <zeus1_> there working
[06:27] <crimsun> zeus1_: so your sound is fine
[06:28] <zeus1_> ya
[06:28] <zeus1_> now to get it into the USB head set
[06:28] <crimsun> tell your alsa apps to use hw:1,0
[06:28] <volvoguy> candlelight, when you boot the install cd, you can choose expert instead of just hitting enter. i've never needed to do it myself, so i'm not sure where the docs would be.
[06:28] <zeus1_> where?
[06:28] <durt> so wait - all this time you were trying to get sound working without speakers zeus1_?
[06:28] <zeus1_> Yes
[06:28] <zeus1_> lol
[06:29] <zeus1_> im listening to fear factory - transgression there new album
[06:29] <griff> hello, I seem to have broken gnome through fooling with a new firewire external hard drive
[06:29] <griff> any help would be much appreciated :)
[06:29] <codomaniac> !lpy
[06:29] <ubotu> codomaniac: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:30] <zeus1_> crimsun: where do I change the alsa apps to use hw 1.0
[06:30] <durt> how so is it broken griff?
[06:30] <griff> well, when I try and log in, even with the failsafe Gnome it just hangs
[06:30] <durt> so it doesnt boot?
[06:30] <griff> I have an e17 installation I can login to
[06:30] <absinthe_> I'm using dmix, and with beep/xmms every once and awhile my music starts crackling/reverbing badly. All I have to do to fix it is pause and unpause. Why?
[06:31] <griff> well it boots
[06:31] <zeus1_> does anyone kno where to change alsa apps
[06:31] <ryguy1233> hi
[06:31] <griff> unless, booting actually means logging in
[06:31] <ryguy1233> is seveas here tonight/
[06:31] <durt> /etc/asound.conf maybe
[06:32] <griff> under e17, gnome programs (such as gnome terminal) don't work
[06:32] <crimsun> zeus1_: in their preferences, like in beep-media-player's or xmms's
[06:32] <crimsun> zeus1_: otherwise, you have to use a customsink in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink
[06:32] <griff> thankfully, xterm does
[06:33] <ryguy1233> anyone know about grub and fdisk?
[06:34] <deadinplastic> what would be the equivalent of libcompat of redhat for ubuntu. i just don't know the name of the package. sybase db is linked to a particularly old version of libstdc
[06:34] <durt> maybe you could reinstall gnome or something
[06:34] <griff> ouch
[06:34] <griff> fair enough
[06:34] <durt> or try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:34] <griff> ok hold on
[06:35] <absinthe_> I'm using dmix, and with beep/xmms every once and awhile my music starts crackling/reverbing badly. All I have to do to fix it is pause and unpause. Why?
[06:35] <ryguy1233> grub loaader anyone?
[06:35] <zeus1_> um anyone kno how to get into alsa preferences
[06:36] <griff> if it helps at all, I had just partitioned a new firewire drive and made it ext3
[06:36] <zeus1_> i forgot how to i was there before...
[06:36] <griff> and mounted it using instructions from Linux from Scratch
[06:36] <durt> zeus1_: try alsaconf maybe
[06:36] <griff> I tried copying files to it, and cp kept skipping everything I tried
[06:37] <glick> hi
[06:37] <zeus1_> no such command durt
[06:37] <glick> man Kontact rules!
[06:37] <glick> i really dont get why there is ubuntu and kubuntu
[06:37] <glick> on ubuntu website
[06:37] <durt> well ill be damned, i use to have that command
[06:37] <glick> just have an iso with gnome as the default and an iso with kde as the default
[06:37] <glick> geez
[06:38] <griff> aww crap
[06:38] <nickrud> glick, kde sucks, so some people had to put in the time to make it work :)
[06:38] <candlelight> glick, is that the only diff? i never know, thanks
[06:38] <griff> now we run into my long ingnored e17 locales error
[06:38] <griff> oi
[06:38] <glick> nickrud, there is no need for name calling, kde is a mature desktop enviornment
[06:38] <glick> its not bad
[06:38] <glick> candlelight, yeah thats the only diff
[06:39] <zeus1_> Umm
[06:39] <nickrud> to many options, I get lost
[06:39] <zeus1_> where is alsa preferences lol
[06:39] <griff> never mind, got through
[06:39] <glick> i find KDE alot better intergrated than gnome
[06:39] <glick> like kontact for example
[06:39] <zeus1_> OK WAIT
[06:40] <zeus1_> I set ALSA as the default audio output sink
[06:40] <zeus1_> and the test worked over the speakers
[06:40] <zeus1_> so now how to put the sound into the usb headset?
[06:40] <Phuzion> Hey, is there a way I can get my local IP address on my LAN?
[06:40] <candlelight> ifconfig
[06:40] <zeus1_> crimsun: I set alsa as the thing....now wat
[06:41] <ryguy1233> has anyone heard of madboot.com
[06:41] <ryguy1233> or ultimatebootcd.com
[06:41] <glick> ohhh yeah!
[06:42] <durt> ive got two tickets to paradise... wow what a great song
[06:42] <sockpuppe1> is everything ok?
[06:43] <sockpuppe1> I have a quick question: how do I figure out what program/service is running on a certain port
[06:43] <sockpuppe1> ?
[06:43] <griff> reconfiguring xorg didn't do anything
[06:44] <Agrajag> sockpuppe1: netstat -nptul
[06:44] <nickrud> sockpuppe1, sudo netstat -tlp
[06:44] <Agrajag> well, I think you just need p
[06:44] <durt> sorry griff, i dont know what to do :(
[06:44] <Agrajag> sockpuppe1: netstat -nptul
[06:44] <griff> its ok
[06:44] <griff> thanks very much
[06:44] <durt> just ask google i guess
[06:45] <griff> I'll post to the forums I guess
[06:46] <sockpuppe1> the reason I ask is because a weird thing keeps happening
[06:46] <sockpuppe1> my firewall tells me someone is atacking me on port 1026-1027
[06:46] <sockpuppe1> and I thought it was a program
[06:47] <sockpuppe1> but nothing to my knowledge is running on those ports
[06:48] <zeus1_> can anyone help me with getting sound to work on ubuntu linux
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> zeus1_,  what sound card? and have you checked the wiki's yet?
[06:48] <zeus1_> nvidia soundforce and yes
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> smart man. :P
[06:48] <zeus1_> my sound works throguh the speakers
[06:48] <bored2k> is there a command i can run via terminal to shutdown the computer without the need for root/sudo access?
[06:48] <zeus1_> and I am listening to music i can here it jsut fine
[06:48] <nickrud> bored2k, no
[06:49] <zeus1_> just getting it to play in my plantronics headset is what i need
[06:49] <bored2k> nickrud, ok thanks
[06:49] <Madpilot> speaking of netstat, what is "/tmp/orbit-$user/linc-<more numbers>" supposed to be?
[06:49] <sockpuppe1> anyone have a clue?
[06:49] <candlelight> bored2k: shutdown -h now
[06:49] <nickrud> candlelight, with root/sudo :)
[06:50] <LaserLine> Is there a tool for checking BAD SECTORS on the hard drive ?
[06:50] <bored2k> candlelight, shutdown: you must be root to do that!
[06:51] <sockpuppe1> my firewall tells me someone is atacking me on port 1026-1027
[06:51] <candlelight> yeah, sorry
[06:51] <nickrud> bored2k, actually, now that I think on it, you can do that through the login screen.
[06:51] <sockpuppe1> but nothing to my knowledge is running on those ports
[06:51] <zeus1_> ahh dam it im so close to get this working some1 helppp!!!!
[06:52] <summers> i am really new to linux, how do i cange my screen resolution on ubuntu???? i can only make it 640X400
[06:52] <bored2k> nickrud, i need a command so i can shutdown the pc via cron. i dont know how cron works, but that's step 2
[06:52] <nickrud> bored2k, I'm working on the cron wiki page at the moment. pm me?
[06:53] <bored2k> nickrud, yes sir.
[06:53] <nickrud> heh
[06:54] <candlelight> bored2k, how about a user of wheel group -- not too sure about this though
[06:54] <summers> how do i edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf???
[06:54] <bored2k> candlelight, not sure i understand what you even mean :/.
[06:54] <Madpilot> summers: "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" - assuming you're running X
[06:55] <summers> k, thanks alot!
[06:56] <zeus1_> can anyone help me fix my sound
[06:56] <crimsun> zeus1_: ?
[06:56] <candlelight> bored2k, i remembe last time when i use suse i could run that shutdown command, without sudo or root, but i belong to a wheel group, which has more access to the system
[06:56] <zeus1_> crimsun: i set the ALSA thing to default sink
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> zeus1_,  some4 of these sound cards now a days have like 3 output that can 'change' some how with software to be say an input or a output.. not sure how they work under linux however
[06:57] <crimsun> zeus1_: do you mean that you set the default audio sink to custom sink, and then "alsasink device=plughw:1,0" in the box?
[06:57] <bored2k> candlelight, hmm.. ill try playing with that now. I could also try playing with sudoers, but that's my last resort.
[06:57] <zeus1_> uhhh
[06:58] <zeus1_> i went into system-->preferences---> multimedia systems selector
[06:58] <zeus1_> and changed default sink to ALSA
[06:58] <zeus1_> is that how ur supposed to do it
[06:58] <candlelight> bored2k, wheel group users is just a group where the users can access some hardware or service
[06:58] <crimsun> zeus1_: no. change the default sink to custom sink.
[06:58] <zeus1_> k
[06:58] <crimsun> zeus1_: then in the box below that, type "alsasink device=plughw:1,0"
[06:58] <zeus1_> it is
[06:58] <crimsun> zeus1_: I assume that your usb headset is plugged in?
[06:58] <zeus1_> yes
[06:59] <zeus1_> now wat
[06:59] <candlelight> bored2k, so i suspect if we set up a group where its user has right on what we want, then we can start a cron job as the user
[06:59] <crimsun> zeus1_: and what is the output from cat /proc/asound/cards ?
[07:00] <bored2k> candlelight, ill try and see playing with <users n groups> GUI what i can make
[07:00] <zeus1_> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/348217
[07:00] <candlelight> bored2k, not too sure, i'm newbie :)
[07:00] <bored2k> candlelight, im just -for some reason- avoiding sudoers
[07:01] <crimsun> zeus1_: Are you sure that your usb headset is plugged in?
[07:01] <zeus1_> yes
[07:01] <crimsun> zeus1_: it certainly hasn't registered
[07:01] <zeus1_> h/o
[07:01] <summers> help my screen is stuck on 640X480!! how do i change it?
[07:01] <zeus1_> let me take plug out then put back in
[07:01] <zeus1_> just in case
[07:01] <crimsun> !fixresolution
[07:01] <ubotu> Not a clue, crimsun
[07:02] <zeus1_> crimsun: its definitly plugged in
[07:03] <Madpilot> !fixres
[07:03] <ubotu> hmm... fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:03] <zeus1_> and I replugged , did the "cat" command and I still got the same exact result
[07:03] <Madpilot> summers: see ubotu above ^^^
[07:03] <zeus1_> but
[07:03] <zeus1_> i swear it was showing up earlier
[07:03] <summers> k thanks again]
[07:03] <zeus1_> it was under devices...then all of a sudden its done
[07:03] <crimsun> zeus1_: lsmod|grep ^snd_usb_audio
[07:04] <zeus1_> what did that do
[07:06] <crimsun> zeus1_: what was the output?
[07:06] <zeus1_> there was none
[07:06] <zeus1_> i copied the command right from ur post
[07:07] <zeus1_> and pasted and it didnt do anything
[07:07] <crimsun> so you need to insert it
[07:07] <crimsun> looks like hotplugging isn't working properly
[07:08] <zeus1_> insert what? im confused on what u mean
[07:08] <crimsun> sudo modprobe snd-usb-audio
[07:09] <zeus1_> didnt do anything...
[07:09] <zeus1_> or had no output
[07:09] <crimsun> good
[07:09] <crimsun> now cat /proc/asound/cards
[07:09] <zeus1_> still no change
[07:11] <zeus1_> im guessing thats not good : \
[07:11] <zeus1_> is there an other command..
[07:12] <delltony> anyone here ever use moto4lin? if so can you please explain how to install skins from motomodders?
[07:12] <crimsun> zeus1_: reboot, plug it in afterward
[07:13] <zeus1_> so pull it out now....reboot and once ubuntu is started up I shall plug it in crimsun?
[07:13] <zeus1_> ok well im going to go do that
[07:13] <zeus1_> brb
[07:16] <Lie-Algebra> hi all, supposing i want to change the label of one of my partitions ( then the fstab file), would it be possible to rename  hda2 into hda4  ?
[07:18] <zeus1_> ok rebooted and plugged in crimsun
[07:19] <n1xt3r> Lie-Algebra: no, but maybe what you want is lvm
[07:19] <zeus1_> what was that command again...
[07:20] <zeus1_> DUDE NVM
[07:20] <zeus1_> it works
[07:20] <zeus1_> in the headset
[07:20] <zeus1_> thank u
[07:21] <Lie-Algebra> thks,  i am gonna have a look (its just because i get message like partition table entries are not in disk order & partition nx doesnt end on a cylinder boundary but all works fine..)
[07:21] <zeus1_> now how do I turn down the volume
[07:21] <zeus1_> lol
[07:23] <zeus1_> nvm got it
[07:23] <zeus1_> thanks for the help
[07:23] <zeus1_> now i can jam out.....on LINUX!
[07:24] <zeus1_> so props to u all...you helped me once again, g2g for tonight later
[07:24] <summers> how do i install amsn or any program at that??
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> time to read up on 'apt-get' summers  :P
[07:25] <summers> yes i agree, how do i do that
[07:25] <benplaut> !apt-get
[07:25] <ubotu> hmm... apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[07:25] <Madpilot> summers: gaim can do the aim thing, and a whole pile of other networks...
[07:26] <summers> kk
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> behold the power of the Wiki!
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:27] <summers> thanks
[07:27] <LaserLine> I would be glad for some assistance.
[07:28] <LaserLine> Anyone here could help me figure out what is wrong with my FileSystem ?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> all the bits are loose. :P
[07:30] <candlelight> summers: screen resolution: xf86cfg
[07:31] <Madpilot> candlelight: pretty sure that's dead wrong. Ubuntu uses x.org - read that FixRes page...
[07:32] <summers> i got the res fixed
[07:32] <summers> working on installing things lol
[07:32] <Madpilot> LaserLine: more specific questions might get better answers...
[07:35] <dsl_Crystufer> Hey all.
[07:37] <LaserLine> I get multiple INODE and EXT3 errors while Booting..
[07:37] <LaserLine> I use Ubuntu with the Dafault installation.
[07:38] <LaserLine> I think it happens after Hibernating, but not sure. I added the resume=/dev/hda5 line in KOPT (Swap is hda5)
[07:38] <persia> LaserLine: That usually either indicates problems with your hard drive, or that your machine was not shut down properly on the last boot.
[07:39] <skullri> hi all
[07:39] <LaserLine> Today i had problems loading X (GDM and GNOME) after shutdown and restart.
[07:39] <robitaille> question: I did the other day an installation on a Celeron-based laptop, and ended up with the -386 kernel instead of the -686.  Is that a bug of the installer with my particular hardware, or everyone gets the -386 kernel by default?
[07:39] <LaserLine> So I had to use the 686 kernel (recovery mode)
[07:39] <persia> LaserLine: When restoring from hibernate, is your session restored, or is it a new session?
[07:39] <skullri> well i'm having problem trying to install gaim
[07:39] <LaserLine> persia: the session restores it self perfectly
[07:39] <candlelight> summers: u try the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" on fixvid wiki page and it works?
[07:39] <Madpilot> robitaille: I think everyone gets the 386 kernel, this K7 machine had it on first install...
[07:40] <skullri> can someone help me
[07:40] <LaserLine> Now i insterted the Ubuntu LiveCD and in TTY2 wrote the command: "sudo fsck -C -c -f /dev/hda1"
[07:40] <persia> LaserLine: Beyond me then.  It sounds like it might be hardware, but perhaps someone else can help.
[07:40] <LaserLine> alll chackes passs
[07:40] <carthik> robitaile there are only amd64, 86 and powerpc install/live cds... guess it supports everyone and thats why
[07:40] <Madpilot> skullri: gaim is installed by default in Ubuntu - Applications menu - Internet - Gaim
[07:40] <skullri> yeah
[07:41] <robitaille> Madpilot:  thanks.  Since it was the first time with that laptop that I was doing an install with the installer, I had no idea that to expect
[07:41] <skullri> but i removed it and tried to install it from then source
[07:41] <skullri> 1.5.0
[07:41] <skullri> but i got some errors
[07:41] <summers> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ did not help at all
[07:41] <LaserLine> and writes: "File System was modifies" 215470q1172736 (3.2% non-contiguous), 1167694/2345482 blocks
[07:41] <summers> im still confused
[07:42] <carthik> summers what is it that you are confused about?
[07:42] <Madpilot> summers: for install, try Synaptic, it's graphical not command line
[07:42] <Madpilot> !synaptic
[07:42] <ubotu> it has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:42] <LaserLine> The filesystem Ubuntu uses with default installation is EXT3 or EXT2 ? ?
[07:42] <summers> k tahnkis
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> ext3
[07:42] <carthik> LaserLine, you could use what you like anyways...
[07:42] <carthik> not an answer, i know - sorry about that
[07:43] <LaserLine> carthik - I know, thanks :-)
[07:43] <LaserLine> It's a Fujitsu Siemes S-4546 (P3-600) so performance issues aren't diffrent./.
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> You did good - if you managed to mess up a ext3 filesystem :P
[07:43] <Madpilot> skullri: gaim 1.5 will be default in Breezy - why not just wait until early October?
[07:44] <LaserLine> Dr_Willis: I didn't mess it up.... I rebotted the system and it just happend...
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> ive never been able to do that. even with the dog unplugging the machine.
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> LaserLine,  ewww... that could be a hard drive going in to the great beyond. :P
[07:44] <LaserLine> It first happend after Installing the damn Kubuntu (wanted to see how KDE is like... I HATE IT !)
[07:45] <candlelight> Madpilot: my system doesn't have xorg, what's the full name?
[07:45] <Madpilot> candlelight: what are you running? Warty?
[07:45] <LaserLine> then I had problems booting the 686 kernel...so i tried to delete it...using synaptics, and it always wrote an error in some directorey in the kernel modules (sound)...
[07:45] <LaserLine> so i wasn't able to reinstall..
[07:46] <LaserLine> when i loaded the live cd and wrote the about command (i needed to fsck w/o the drive being mounted) it fixed thoese directorys and i was home free :D
[07:46] <candlelight> Madpilot: i install 4.1 warty, then run synaptic update
[07:46] <LaserLine> but now, i get too many problems... it works great, bt i hate seeing erros !
[07:46] <xds_beta3> BARINDAR PAUL
[07:46] <xds_beta3> hey all
[07:47] <LaserLine> Dr_Willis : Is there a way of running fsck and actually fixing a filesystem w/o using the livecd ?
[07:47] <Madpilot> candlelight: that's over my head - I know Warty was x86 & Hoary is X.org, but have no idea what to do to switch up
[07:48] <skullri> Madpilot:to much time
[07:48] <skullri> Madpilot: too much time
[07:48] <LaserLine> Anyone....  Is there a way of running fsck and actually fixing a filesystem w/o using the livecd ?
[07:49] <carthik> Laserline, when it starts up and says "checking file system integrity' try doing a Ctrl+C then it will drop you into the # prompt
[07:49] <persia> candlelight: If you're feeling brave, you can just install "xserver-xorg".  This will change from xfree86 to xorg, but the configuration is different, and there may be problems.
[07:49] <carthik> LaserLine, or maybe choose recovery mode from grub...
[07:50] <summers> i downloaded a program and its on my desktop, what do i do after that?
[07:50] <LaserLine> Is there a possibility to add to grub mode an option to load a the FSCK (like there is memtest86+) ??
[07:51] <candlelight> persia, xorg is preffered ?
[07:51] <zeus1_> ok...maybe im not done yet
[07:51] <ikkys> hi guys, i have a machine that has windows and gentoo in it. i have downloaded ubuntu 5.04 and would like to install it, can anyone give me some pointers? do i just umerge root and leave boot/swap?
[07:51] <Madpilot> summers: that depends what it is, and how it's packaged... and if it's available thru the Ubuntu repos, it's much, much easier to install it from there...
[07:51] <zeus1_> So the sounds playing thru the headset and everythings good....so I reboot linux and come back just as a test and sure enough...the headset sound is once again not working
[07:52] <LaserLine> Maybe the Hibernating skrews up my system ?
[07:52] <zeus1_> what the HELL is wrong with this thing
[07:52] <summers> its amsn messenger
[07:52] <summers> and its not on there
[07:52] <Madpilot> summers: gAIM
[07:53] <Madpilot> !gaim
[07:53] <ubotu> from memory, gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[07:53] <durt> zeus1_: did you load any modules before rebooting?
[07:53] <summers> i have gaim, i dont like it
[07:53] <zeus1_> durt uhhh....what modules
[07:53] <ikkys> anyone?help
[07:53] <xds_beta3> gaim sucks
[07:53] <zeus1_> what ever onse that crimsun told me
[07:54] <persia> zeus1_: You may have to do that again.  The logs are in the topic...
[07:54] <zeus1_> like i said ... i took his advise and sound worked perfectly thru the headset...then I rebooted and it doesnt work again!!!
[07:54] <persia> zeus1_: You can make sure that modules load on boot by adding their names to /etc/modules
[07:54] <xds_beta3> try his advise again?
[07:54] <zeus1_> but im not going to do this everytime i have to start up ubuntu again...thats a bunch of BS
[07:54] <zeus1_> how
[07:55] <durt> what did he say to do zeus1_?
[07:55] <persia> zeus1_: You could also put all the commands in a file, and run `bash filename` after boot to restore your environment.
[07:55] <ikkys> !install
[07:55] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, ikkys
[07:55] <zeus1_> Will this be fixed in breezy?
[07:55] <zeus1_> to add USB headset support
[07:56] <carthik> candlelight, the upgrad notes might be interst for the x.org issue : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[07:56] <persia> ikkys: Are you willing to reformat anything, or do you have some spare partitions?
[07:56] <persia> zeus1_: Adding better USB and hotplug audio control is a breezy goal.  I don't know if they're all done yet.
[07:57] <ikkys> i have /boot /swap /root from gentoo that i dont want anymore, so what should i do, but hda1,hda2 had windows on it
[07:58] <persia> ikkys: When you start the installer, load a console, and delete everything in the partitions you don't want.  Then finish the installer.
[07:58] <ikkys> so i use the normal fdisk method?
[07:58] <ikkys> does ubuntu creates its own partitions or i have to create them?
[07:59] <persia> ikkys: That should work.
[07:59] <ciluuk> hi all
[07:59] <persia> ikkys: Ubuntu can either create it's own partitions, or you can control the partition creation (with expert mode)
[07:59] <candlelight> carthik, thanks! so that's the upgrade to hoary? I'm going to do it now...
[08:00] <arcanistherogue> hey, what is the ubuntu logo font?
[08:00] <carthik> candlelight, read the notes at the bottom too - should help
[08:01] <Ebowles> how can I find out which sound module I'm using?
[08:01] <ikkys> persia, ok, i have grub installed, so i want the splash screen to still be there, so whats ure suggestion, basicly i have a working linux o/s, just wanna change it to ubuntu
[08:01] <LaserLine> Is there a possibility to add items to the GRUB Menu ?
[08:01] <ciluuk> how make apt can't search packages from CDROM again?... i wanna install gcc, but my CDROM broken..
[08:01] <arcanistherogue> ciluuk
[08:01] <arcanistherogue> yes
[08:01] <Madpilot> does "killall gnome-panel" affect the rest of the apps I'm running, or will it leave them alone while gnome-panel restarts?
[08:01] <syn-ack> Madpilot: it would just kill the panel
[08:02] <carthik> arcanistherogue, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23773.html
[08:02] <dalamar> anyone running an ipod shuffle in ubuntu?
[08:02] <syn-ack> Madpilot: You would want to use a sighup though, to restart it
[08:02] <Ebowles> how can I find out which sound module I'm using?
[08:02] <arcanistherogue> ciluuk: i am trying to do the same thing and get slackware.  I have a topic on the ubuntu forums asking about th
[08:02] <LaserLine> Madpilot: Usuualy it won't affect, but if you have some software depending on the Gnomepanel or have an icon there they might crash, but that usually doesn't occur.
[08:02] <carthik> Madpilot, mine leaves them alone
[08:02] <LaserLine> Is there a possibility to add items to the GRUB Menu ?
[08:02] <ikkys> persia, when i boot the computer, it doesnt read the cdrom, it just goes direct to grub, how do i enter the cdrom?
[08:02] <carthik> Ebowles, right now?
[08:02] <syn-ack> LaserLine: Of course there is
[08:02] <persia> ikkys: I've never used gentoo, so I'm not familiar with the structure.  I would recommend making a backup of your grub configuration, and then modifying the ubuntu configuration after install.
[08:02] <carthik> by default it should be esd
[08:03] <Madpilot> syn-ack: use a what? I thought gnome-panel would restart automaticaly?
[08:03] <LaserLine> syn-ack, how do i do that ??
[08:03] <Ebowles> Carthik, how can I change it to alsa?
[08:03] <durt> laserline edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:03] <carthik> Ebowles, using gmplayer or something?
[08:03] <Virtuall> ikkys, it's probably your BIOS configuraion... change the boot orfer ?
[08:03] <Virtuall> order*
[08:03] <syn-ack> LaserLine: man grub and then check out the docs on the FSF homepage
[08:04] <carthik> Ebowles, doing a killall esd kills it leaving you free to use also - at elast that is my experience with gmplayer and such earlier...
[08:04] <syn-ack> Madpilot: if you kill it, it wont restart... sometimes it does, but it doesnt usually
[08:04] <ciluuk> arcanistherogue, on mandrake, we can use urpmi-removemedia to romoved apt source
[08:04] <Ebowles> carthik, well I'm trying to watch a video file, and the sound keeps going in and out, and in terminal, it says "alsa output failed unable to write broken pipe"
[08:04] <persia> Ebowles: cat /proc/asound/cards: if your card is there, you're already using ALSA.
[08:04] <Virtuall> syn-ack, it usually does for me
[08:04] <Virtuall> syn-ack, actually it always does
[08:04] <Madpilot> syn-ack: what's the command for kill+restart?
[08:04] <LaserLine> syn-ack, ok. from your knowledge is it possible to add an option for an FSCK complete scan so i won't have to use the livecd to actually fix and scan my filesystem ?
[08:04] <_youngcoder> i keep getting invalid file format error when trying to install themes
[08:04] <ciluuk> Ebowles, how about alsactl ?
[08:04] <carthik> Ebowles, try a "killall esd" if you will...
[08:04] <_youngcoder> anyone got any suggestions?
[08:05] <happybaby> hello, how can i prevent firefox from saying to website what country I'm from? Or, how can I make websites think that I'm from another country?
[08:05] <Virtuall> happybaby, lol. it's not firefox
[08:05] <syn-ack> LaserLine: you dont even have to do that. You can just run "shutdown -rF now" and it will do it
[08:05] <Virtuall> it's your IP
[08:05] <ciluuk> youngcoder, what themes?
[08:05] <Ebowles> killall esd left me with no sound now
[08:05] <carthik> happybaby, you can use an anonymizing website to browse anonymously - though i have never done that
[08:05] <LaserLine> syn-ack - that's new to me !!!
[08:05] <persia> happybaby: Depends on the website.  Easiest method is to adjust your locale, and then use a proxy in your target apparent country.
[08:05] <youngcoder> sleekdragon and another i downloaded from GNOME-Look.org
[08:05] <LaserLine> syn-ack, what kind of scan will it do ?
[08:06] <dalamar> anyone running an ipod shuffle in ubuntu?
[08:06] <happybaby> how then can I mask my ip?
[08:06] <syn-ack> LaserLine: A full fsck
[08:06] <ciluuk> youngcoder, u mean desktop themes for gnome?
[08:06] <Virtuall> happybaby, use anonymous proxies
[08:06] <LaserLine> syn-ack with bad sectors ?
[08:06] <carthik> Ebowles, doing an "esd" will restart esd
[08:06] <youngcoder> GDM theme and GTK2.x themes wont install
[08:06] <happybaby> but some websites don't work well with anonymous proxies
[08:06] <syn-ack> LaserLine: iirc, it does
[08:06] <Virtuall> (actually, anonimous proxy is a baaad thing. they must all die)
[08:07] <youngcoder> Virtuall, i agree
[08:07] <LaserLine> syn-ack, you lost me here.........
[08:07] <Ebowles> carthik, okay, so do you know what may be causing the problem?
[08:07] <LaserLine> syn-ack - iirc?
[08:07] <syn-ack> LaserLine: If I recall correctly
[08:08] <youngcoder> ciluuk, GDM theme and GTK2.x themes ..... neither will install
[08:08] <LaserLine> syn-ack: LoL ! is there a way to make it do that, i mean add options to the shutdown command
[08:08] <syn-ack> LaserLine: I just told you...
[08:08] <ikkys> so no one can help me?
[08:08] <ciluuk> happybaby, mask IP, just contact u r ISP
[08:08] <LaserLine> syn-ack, i like to use "fsck -C -c -f /dev/hda1
[08:08] <LaserLine> syn-ack, i meant for the fsck switc
[08:09] <syn-ack> LaserLine: just do "shutdown -rF now" and it will reboot, mount the fs in ro and scan them
[08:09] <carthik> Ebowles, i am sorry but i dont know really
[08:10] <xulMunkee> i'm having problems seeing unicode fonts in ubuntu. this is what a webpage looked like in fedora core http://tinyurl.com/dqu8d  and here is what i see in ubuntu hoary http://tinyurl.com/87o2h
[08:10] <ciluuk> youngcoder, usually GDM themes have tar.gz format
[08:10] <youngcoder> yes they do
[08:10] <LaserLine> syn-ack, doing it now on my laptop...and it works... but i'm not sure about the badsectors scan...
[08:11] <LaserLine> syn-ack, any idea how do i make it scan badsectors also ? or add a grub line etc...?
[08:11] <syn-ack> LaserLine: man shutdown and man fskck and man badblocks
[08:12] <LaserLine> syn-ack fsKsc ? (the extra k is a typo?) badblocks - that's new to me... will be glad to read !
[08:12] <syn-ack> yeah, that was a typo
[08:13] <Ebowles> I'm trying to watch a video file, and the sound goes off and on, anybody have any ideas?
[08:13] <LaserLine> syn-ack, I have a recovery question... let's say the system crashes and doesn't boot... fs is dead, how do i scan the fsck w/o the live cd... what i mean is that i don't get into a terminal and able to run the scan.
[08:14] <Madpilot> Any other Opera 8.02 users here?
[08:14] <carthik> Ebowles, in the player you are using can yyou set the sound output to use esd?
[08:14] <LaserLine> yup....
[08:14] <durt> oh yeah Madpilot
[08:14] <LaserLine> madpilot - i use opera 8.02
[08:14] <carthik> Ebowles, what player are you using, btw?
[08:14] <syn-ack> LaserLine: does it boot the kernel and then panic?
[08:14] <Ebowles> carthik, that leaves me with no sound, all of them do, except "default"
[08:14] <Ebowles> I'm using vlc
[08:14] <Madpilot> have a question about something odd my Opera is doing - anyone else find it ramping up to 100% CPU usage just to load an ordinary page in the background?
[08:14] <No1Viking> Anyone know of a good FTP client with SSL?
[08:14] <Madpilot> Opera 8 & 8.01 didn't do this...
[08:15] <LaserLine> syn-ack, it used to but i was able to fix it... i'm asking in general..but let's say it does (it was kind of a fluk me fixing it).
[08:15] <durt> using system-monitor madpilot?
[08:15] <persia> No1Viking: ftp-ssl?
[08:15] <syn-ack> LaserLine: Honestly, Ive never had anything like that happen, so I dont know..
[08:15] <Madpilot> durt: yeah, I've got CPU, Network & RAM windows at the bottom of my screen - but Opera gets sluggish, too, which is NOT normal...
[08:16] <CrackersKeenan> has anyone had problems exporting to mpeg in KINO?
[08:16] <carthik> Ebowles, there should be a package calleed vlc-plugin-esd - if you can get that and change the audio output to esd it should work fine
[08:16] <durt> Madpilot: nope mine doesnt do that
[08:16] <carthik> No1Viking, gftp?
[08:16] <durt> opera is usually very fast
[08:16] <Madpilot> durt: mine has just started in the last day or two, actually, it used to be fine...
[08:17] <No1Viking> carthik, gftp has SSH, not SSL
[08:17] <carthik> No1Viking, oh - my bad
[08:17] <durt> Madpilot: and everything else works normally?
[08:17] <LaserLine> syn-ack, Gee, thanks, if you'll ever have, I might be able to help, coz i'm learning tons about this on mmy laptop (it's quite interesting)... by the way, about badblocks, i'm reading the man now, but don't understand something.......the HD has to be unmoundet or is it ok to be mounted ?
[08:17] <No1Viking> persia, ftp-ssl is a server
[08:17] <Madpilot> durt: the rest of Ubuntu? yeah.
[08:18] <syn-ack> LaserLine: Like any checks to the FS, it needs to be unmounted
[08:18] <Madpilot> durt: I might do the Windows thing and try to reboot - this started after the last time I rebooted, three or four days ago...
[08:18] <syn-ack> rather mounted ro
[08:18] <LaserLine> syn-ack, so I have to use the livecd or is there another way of runing this scan ? (what is mounted ro??)
[08:18] <No1Viking> Anyone know of a good FTP client with SSL support, with some kind of GUI?
[08:19] <syn-ack> LaserLine: Just remount the FS's ro
[08:19] <carthik> Ebowles, the econd message on this thread should help: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24345.html
[08:19] <persia> No1Viking: I've a package installed on my workstation called "ftp-ssl".  It provides an ftp binary, which works as a client.  I believe there is also a server package from the same source, but there is no requirement to install the server.
[08:19] <syn-ack> LaserLine: that would be found in man mount
[08:19] <ciluuk> No1Viking, how about GFTP ?
[08:19] <LaserLine> syn-ack reading that now :D
[08:19] <persia> No1Viking: Ahh...  No GUI.  Sorry.
[08:20] <LaserLine> syn-ack - I don't undestand that man page at all!
[08:20] <persia> LaserLine: `mount /foo -o remount,ro`
[08:21] <syn-ack> persia: heh, I know that theres an example in the man for that, thats why I refered him to it.
[08:21] <LaserLine> persia, I don't like to copy-paste, I rather understand.... but It's kinda hard.... What is the logic behind me remounting ?
[08:21] <syn-ack> LaserLine: So you dont toast the filesystem
[08:21] <persia> LaserLine: I'm going to defer to syn-ack: he's leading you in a more suitable direction.
[08:21] <LaserLine> persia, when the system boots, how is the hard-drive being mounted ?
[08:22] <LaserLine> persia, don't get me wrong...I like reading the man - that's the only way to learn, but it uses terms i don't understand :-(
[08:22] <syn-ack> LaserLine: when it reboots, init will tell it to boot to reboot to whatever the clean state was when it was powered down
[08:23] <LaserLine> syn-ack ok... but in the menu.list there is a line says root=/dev/hda1 ro
[08:23] <LaserLine> syn-ack what does that mean ?
[08:24] <xulMunkee> how to enable pango in all GTK apps without recompling them?
[08:24] <syn-ack> right, that tells GRUB where the kernel is and how its initally mounted untill fsck checks the mount state and remounts it rw
[08:24] <xulMunkee> a
[08:24] <LaserLine> syn-ack ... ok - now i get it...
[08:25] <LaserLine> syn-ack so after fsck is done, it remounts to rw automatically?
[08:25] <syn-ack> LaserLine: The proceedure is rather simple to understand
[08:25] <syn-ack> LaserLine: now you're getting it
[08:26] <LaserLine> syn-ack what is the /foo do ?
[08:26] <syn-ack> thats the mountpoint.
[08:26] <syn-ack> its all in the mount manpage. ;)
[08:27] <LaserLine> syn-ack I can't find it there... I found the -o (now i understand)...
[08:28] <LaserLine> syn-ack tryied to search in man - but i can't find the /foo :-(
[08:28] <syn-ack> look for "mountpoints"
[08:29] <LaserLine> syn-ack I searched for "points" ---> Pattern not found....
[08:29] <syn-ack> basically, the foo is the part of the FS that is that root or where the partiton is... what you are telling mount to do is mount that partition in such and such way
[08:30] <LaserLine> syn-ack ok... so after i mount that as read only, I run the FSCK with the options i preffer and after the scan i need to remount it as rw or just continue as usuall ?
[08:31] <syn-ack> you would remount as rw and then continue the normal boot or even just reboot and let init take its course
[08:32] <LaserLine> syn-ack .....ohh so i have to reboot after ? i thought i could continue work...
[08:32] <syn-ack> Dont have to, but its the easiest way to do it
[08:33] <LaserLine> syn-ack - to understand properly (so me not frying my system) i boot normally... to X (gnome) open a root terminal. write the mount command, run fsck, run the mount command again, and continue work --- or i have to reboot?
[08:33] <syn-ack> no no, you dont want to be in x... Kill it and run in the console
[08:34] <LaserLine> syn-ack ok... so easiest is to run recovery kerel, enter the root password for maintenece and the do all that...
[08:35] <LaserLine> syn-ack :D :D :D :D I got it ... hehe :D
[08:35] <LaserLine> syn-ack (if i could only find these mountpoints in the man page...err !)
[08:35] <syn-ack> yeah, now remember, Ubuntu doesnt let you set the root pass, you would have to set that or sudo -s to the root console
[08:36] <LaserLine> syn-ack already did that, i use ubuntu for 5 months now... but now after i got my laptop's battery fixed I'm trying to make it hibernate.
[08:36] <LaserLine> syn-ack Hibernate works after adding the resume=/dev/hda5 (my swap) to the KOPT line
[08:36] <syn-ack> oooh, hibernate is a Bad Thing at this point
[08:37] <syn-ack> Still very much beta
[08:37] <LaserLine> syn-ack and standby to memory kills half my system...
[08:37] <durt> madpilot: maybe ask about your problem at #opera on efnet
[08:37] <LaserLine> syn-ack so I got serious filesystem damage.......atleast HAD !
[08:37] <LaserLine> syn-ack the FS recovery tools in Linux are amazing :-)
[08:38] <LaserLine> syn-ack when i run FSCK -c it really calls badclocks, so I don't have to run that either, right ?
[08:38] <syn-ack> well, not nessisarily serious, maybe some inconsitancy or some such
[08:38] <syn-ack> LaserLine: right
[08:39] <LaserLine> syn-ack, You helped me alot !! thank you very very much ! (I hope i'd see you here again)
[08:40] <LaserLine> syn-ack Bye for now :)
[08:42] <rob^> does anyone have any idea where the OOo2 icons are on the system?
[08:43] <ciluuk> split
[08:44] <rob^> ya
[08:44] <syn-ack> LaserLine: Looks like they dont have the new servers bugs worked out all that well, eh
[08:45] <Madpilot> test?
[08:48] <durt> rob^: /usr/lib/openoffice2/share/xdg i guess
[08:54] <rob^> nup
[08:54] <scanwinder> is there a command to hibernate?
[08:55] <GNULinuxer> scanwinder: echo mem > /sys/state/power
[08:55] <GNULinuxer> scanwinder: echo disk > /sys/state/power
[08:56] <scanwinder> GNULinuxer: neither of those seemed 2 work
[08:57] <GNULinuxer> scanwinder: you don't have support for those things in that case
[08:57] <scanwinder> GNULinuxer: so its not possible?
[08:58] <GNULinuxer> scanwinder: just cat /sys/power/state and show me the output
[08:58] <scanwinder> GNULinuxer: standby mem disk
[08:59] <GNULinuxer> scanwinder: hmm ... which laptop?
[08:59] <scanwinder> compaq armada 1560D (pentium 1, 166)
[09:00] <durt> how in the hell did you get ubuntu on that thing?
[09:00] <GNULinuxer> scanwinder: my god
[09:00] <syn-ack> I can fit it on less.
[09:00] <scanwinder> lol i had to enable swap to get the installer to work
[09:01] <scanwinder> 32mb ram isnt enough
[09:01] <syn-ack> Ive done it on systems with a 486 in them
[09:01] <durt> sure, if you dont install x
[09:01] <scanwinder> ive got X on it
[09:01] <scanwinder> im usin openbox
[09:01] <scanwinder> runs ok
[09:02] <CrackersKeenan> anyone had problems with exporting files in KINO?  I can capture but I can't export files as mpegs
[09:02] <scanwinder> anyway, how can i get standby/hibernation or something similar workin on it?
[09:03] <cyphase> This is pretty old, but just in case you haven't seen it.. http://www.p-p-p-powerbook.com/
[09:03] <klepas> cyphase: seen that - it was gold
[09:04] <skullri> can someone help me
[09:04] <skullri> well i'm having problem trying to install gaim
[09:04] <NoUse> skullri what kind of problem?
[09:05] <scanwinder> skullri: what's the problem?
[09:06] <skullri> well i download the source
[09:06] <skullri> and i unpacked it
[09:06] <NoUse> skullri stop rigth there
[09:07] <NoUse> skullri sudo apt-get install gaim
[09:07] <skullri> no
[09:07] <skullri> i want to install 1.5.0
[09:07] <skullri> apt-get has 1.4.0
[09:07] <durt> why not the auto package skullri?
[09:07] <klepas> # apt-get update
[09:07] <skullri> auto package
[09:08] <klepas> will update the lists
[09:08] <skullri> no klepas
[09:08] <klepas> and then you should be able to download 1.5.0
[09:08] <skullri> it should be in the repositories
[09:08] <durt> get the autopackage not the source
[09:08] <NoUse> !info gaim
[09:08] <ubotu> gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 825 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB
[09:08] <skullri> 1.4.1
[09:08] <durt> ... or upgrade to breezy :)
[09:08] <skullri> noo
[09:09] <skullri> still unstable
[09:09] <skullri> well
[09:09] <durt> your not very cooperative skullri
[09:09] <NoUse> skullri try to stick to package whenever possible, mixing package databases and built from source software is asking for trouble
[09:09] <skullri> i tried ./configure
[09:09] <skullri> and i got an error
[09:09] <hondje> what does 1.5 have that 1.4 doesn't?
[09:09] <hondje> Everyone seems so anxious to install it
[09:10] <durt> skullri: get the autopackage not the source!!!
[09:10] <skullri> durt, it is the guide do not upgrade to breezy
[09:10] <hondje> or rebuild the .deb from breezy for gaim...
[09:10] <durt> you dont have to!
[09:10] <hondje> make it magic with /etc/apt/preferences
[09:10] <durt> go here! http://gaim.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
[09:10] <hondje> lots of options besides building it
[09:11] <durt> and click on the autopackage one
[09:11] <skullri> but anyway i have to learn how to install source
[09:11] <durt> not when you dont have to!
[09:12] <durt> when you want the latest cvs of something, etc., you can learn how to compile
[09:12] <durt> dont make it harder than it has to be
[09:12] <skullri> but i want to learn how to compile source
[09:12] <skullri> they run faster
[09:13] <durt> its the same thing
[09:13] <klepas> heck, my version of Gaim is 1.1.4
[09:13] <klepas> doesn't bother me...
[09:13] <NoUse> skullri you really won't see a performance boost while chatting with your AIM friends
[09:13] <hondje> haha, run faster
[09:14] <durt> yeah, i really cannot tell the difference between the versions
[09:14] <skullri> open faster
[09:14] <klepas> *why are you typing so much faster than me...!?* lol
[09:14] <klepas> :-)
[09:14] <hondje> that's silly
[09:14] <klepas> skullri: just wait a month or so for breezy
[09:14] <klepas> :-)
[09:15] <hondje> compiling gaim yourself isn't going to make the wm repaint it faster or something
[09:15] <klepas> !info synaptic
[09:15] <ubotu> synaptic: (Graphical package manager), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.55+cvs20050406-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1022 kB, Installed size: 4756 kB
[09:15] <klepas> mmh
[09:15] <klepas> need to update that
[09:16] <skullri> huh
[09:17] <skullri> this is the error that i get
[09:17] <skullri> or got
[09:17] <skullri> No package 'silcclient' found
[09:17] <skullri> checking for silc... Package silc was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[09:17] <skullri> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `silc.pc'
[09:17] <skullri> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[09:17] <skullri> No package 'silc' found
[09:17] <skullri> checking sys/utsname.h usability... yes
[09:17] <skullri> checking sys/utsname.h presence... yes
[09:17] <skullri> checking for sys/utsname.h... yes
[09:17] <klepas> ahh!
[09:17] <klepas> stop
[09:17] <skullri> checking for uname... yes
[09:17] <skullri> checking for pkg-config... (cached) /usr/bin/pkg-config
[09:17] <skullri> checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0...
[09:17] <klepas> stick it into an empty channel!
[09:17] <skullri> *** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.8.0, but GLIB (2.6.3)
[09:17] <skullri> *** was found! If pkg-config was correct, then it is best
[09:17] <skullri> *** to remove the old version of GLib. You may also be able to fix the error
[09:17] <skullri> *** by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or by editing
[09:17] <skullri> *** /etc/ld.so.conf. Make sure you have run ldconfig if that is
[09:17] <skullri> *** required on your system.
[09:17] <skullri> *** If pkg-config was wrong, set the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[09:17] <klepas> or not...
[09:17] <skullri> *** to point to the correct configuration files
[09:17] <skullri> ohh
[09:17] <klepas> :-(
[09:17] <durt> well get the newer glib
[09:18] <skullri> haha
[09:18] <skullri> i did
[09:18] <skullri> but its another source
[09:18] <durt> but that will lead you on a painful path
[09:18] <klepas> skullri: wait for breezy
[09:18] <Madpilot> !tell skullri about pastebin
[09:18] <durt> because you will run into innumerable dependecies
[09:18] <klepas> there really won't be much difference between gaim 1.4 and 1.5
[09:18] <hondje> yay, lets replace glib!
[09:19] <skullri> how
[09:20] <hondje> You probably shouldn't do it
[09:20] <skullri> maybe
[09:20] <skullri> but how can i do it
[09:21] <durt> you are pissing me off skullri :)
[09:21] <skullri> haha
[09:21] <skullri> wait
[09:21] <skullri> i'm just trying to learn
[09:21] <klepas> you could get an RPM system?
[09:21] <klepas> :-P
[09:22] <klepas> [based system]
[09:22] <skullri> durt, and then i'll give support
[09:22] <hondje> seriously skullri, if you didn't get my joke you really shouldn't do it
[09:22] <durt> i know youre just trying to lean
[09:22] <durt> but trust me, this isnt the best way to do it
[09:23] <durt> its a good way to get really really frustrated though
[09:23] <skullri> yeah i know but i'll become crazy if i continue alone
[09:23] <NoUse> skullri to replace glib for gaim is like replacing your engine for new windshield wipers
[09:24] <hondje> lol
[09:24] <hondje> that about sums it up :)
[09:24] <skullri> but HOW CAN i replace glib
[09:24] <NoUse> google might tell you, cause I'm not going to
[09:25] <skullri> hahaha
[09:25] <skullri> google is going to block me
[09:25] <Semionsi> Hi all
[09:26] <durt> hi
[09:27] <gantchev> hi
[09:27] <durt> hi
[09:27] <gantchev> i have a problem with mpeg stream
[09:27] <gantchev> message : there is no element present to handle the stream mime type audio/mpeg
[09:28] <gantchev> someone with the same pb ?
[09:28] <Madpilot> gantchev: have you added the audio codecs to Ubuntu?
[09:28] <Madpilot> !mp3
[09:28] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:29] <gantchev> i'll check the link
[09:29] <Madpilot> gantchev: ubotu's link above will have mpg support as well
[09:29] <durt> gantchev https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Codecs
[09:30] <pinpoint> darn
[09:30] <pinpoint> im i joining too fast for it to realize me
[09:30] <hondje> skullri: so why were you going to replace gaim anyway?
[09:32] <candlelight> is ubotu a bot?
[09:33] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[09:33] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:33] <Madpilot> !good bot
[09:33] <ubotu> :)
[09:33] <durt> !bad bot
[09:33] <ubotu> bad durt!
[09:33] <candlelight> wow! ubotu can remember all the wiki pages... impressive
[09:34] <Madpilot> !lart durt
[09:34] <durt> !lart Madpilot
[09:34] <durt> Madpilot: you fix opera yet?
[09:34] <Madpilot> candlelight: ubotu only remembers what ppl tell it, not the entire wiki by default
[09:35] <Madpilot> durt: it's still being odd. I'll reboot later and see what happens
[09:35] <durt> maybe you should try the beta version 8.10
[09:35] <Madpilot> (and yes, I know that's a recovering-Windows-victim thing to do, but it does work even with Linux...) ;)
[09:42] <JakGC> Hi folks. I have a question about upgrading to Hoary from Warty. I have the Hoary install from shippit. I understand I need to use apt (Synaptic actually). I have changed the repository references for distribution, except for the ref to the CD. What do I change cdrom:[Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)] / to?
[09:42] <JakGC> ps Sorry its a long question
[09:43] <candlelight> jakgc: i think if u have the cd, you can add it to the synaptic
[09:43] <JakGC> Yes candlelight... What is the string to use?
[09:44] <JakGC> .. the Warty one is above... I need the equivalent from thbe Hoary CD
[09:44] <Madpilot> JakGC: just removing the CD from sources should be fine
[09:44] <NoUse> doesn't ubuntu prompt you to upgrade when you put a ubuntu CD in the drive?
[09:44] <gorilla> um, guys what's with #ubuntu-unregged?
[09:44] <JakGC> Madpilot: then the upgrade will get the whole >480mb off the 'net... too slow from here
[09:45] <phayze2> gorilla: for users that aren't registered with nickserv
[09:45] <JakGC> NoUse: my understanding is that it will replace the whole partition... a bit destructive!!
[09:45] <candlelight> jakgc: i just learn from this channel:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[09:46] <gorilla> phayze2, oh.. it must have been becuase my client joined the channel before it registered my nic on startup :-(
[09:46] <NoUse> JakGC: ouch, yeah just a bit
[09:46] <Madpilot> JakGC: ah, OK
[09:46] <NoUse> !upgrade
[09:46] <ubotu> One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:47] <znh> hello
[09:48] <znh> I am searching a firewall to block outbound ports
[09:48] <gantchev> Madpilot, ok i nstalled the codecs for the restricted formats.
[09:48] <gantchev> there's no more error messages
[09:48] <gantchev> but there's nos sound either :)
[09:49] <JakGC> Ta Candlelight.  I read it before.. Its still not clear though...
[09:49] <NoUse> !firewall
[09:49] <ubotu> somebody said firewall was Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[09:49] <Madpilot> gantchev: ouch. no idea, sorry. My sound has always just worked...
[09:50] <znh> thanks NoUse
[09:50] <NoUse> znh np
[09:50] <gantchev> Madpilot, ok thx anyway :)
[09:50] <gorilla> what will play quicktime and/or divx files that is avlaible for hoary?
[09:50] <Madpilot> gantchev: he doesn't seem to be around right now, but look crimsun up at some point, he seems to be the resident sound guru
[09:50] <NoUse> gorilla mplayer or xine
[09:50] <znh> gorilla: vlc is awesome
[09:51] <Madpilot> gorilla: anything, if you've got the codecs installed
[09:51] <Madpilot> !restricted
[09:51] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:51] <Madpilot> gorilla: go to the URL that ubotu's got above ^^^
[09:51] <gantchev> Madpilot, ok i'll look for him.. thx
[09:51] <gorilla> Madpilot, thanks for that link... :-)
[09:52] <mae> Hey I know this is a bit O/T but  does anyone happen to know a good online guide to taking apart your ipod mini, at least how to get the outer casing off? I have been googling for probably an hour
[09:52] <Adross> has anyone succesfully install dashboard?
[09:53] <spiral> hi
[09:53] <klepas> moin moin
[09:57] <shinu> is it normal that downloading mail from gmail makes me download whole conversation? (which means also the things i sent)
[09:57] <JakGC> OK ppl, and candlelight... Thanks: (In Synaptic "Click on "Edit/Add CD-ROM" as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes registers the new Hoary CD repository.)
[09:57] <Adross> shinu: yes
[09:57] <shinu> or is it just something i didnt configure properly?
[09:57] <znh> NoUse: firestarter doesn't have the function to block ports
[09:58] <shinu> Adross: any way to turn this conversation mode off or something?
[09:58] <NoUse> znh then you'll have to learn IP tables
[09:59] <znh> NoUse: nevermind, I see already that it's possible
[09:59] <JakGC> ... Now I just 'Mark All Upgrades' and Apply' and go have a quick beer, not a slow one as the upgrades should come mostly straight from the CD.
[09:59] <gantchev> seeya
[09:59] <Adross> shinu: not sure, poke around in the gmail page
[10:00] <JakGC> Thanks again for the instant help.
[10:00] <shinu> Adross: you just put up with dling everything? :D
[10:00] <JakGC> bye
[10:00] <Adross> shinu: i like that feature
[10:00] <shinu> heh
[10:00] <shinu> ok thanks
[10:05] <gantchev> Madpilot, yes it works with xmms and libesdout.so
[10:05] <gantchev> :) cool
[10:06] <shinu> Adross: it appears that this option im looking for is not yet implemented :D
[10:08] <ikkys> hi
[10:08] <znh> hmm I'd like to block ports to everyone except on my lan network.. but how?
[10:08] <ikkys> how do i configure my resolution, the options that i have on gnome is only 640-480
[10:08] <NoUse> !resolution
[10:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:09] <Madpilot> good night/morning/$time_of_day, everyone. need sleep...
[10:09] <Malin> are there any command list for ubotu?
[10:09] <ikkys> thanks
[10:09] <Malin> !ubotu
[10:09] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:09] <Malin> :-)
[10:09] <Malin> !add
[10:09] <ubotu> from memory, add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets
[10:10] <frans-th> is this a real ubuntu channel?
[10:10] <gantchev> Madpilot, bye
[10:10] <timtux> Yhea
[10:10] <timtux> The official
[10:10] <frans-th> i join this, and Seveas move me to ubuntu-unregged
[10:10] <frans-th> what happen?
[10:11] <timtux> frans-th, you need to be authed/registred on FreeNode
[10:11] <NoUse> frans-th your nick has to be registered with NickServ to be here I believe
[10:11] <frans-th> oh,
[10:11] <frans-th> i forgot to do a identify :P
[10:11] <timtux> :-)
[10:11] <pinpoint> frans-th, perhaps you are joining to fast
[10:11] <candlelight> how to use lvm2 for ubuntu? assuming fresh install
[10:11] <frans-th> to fast?
[10:11] <frans-th> :)
[10:11] <pinpoint> so the client doesnt identify in enough time for you to jump into #ubuntu
[10:12] <frans-th> i am not a good chat man :P
[10:12] <pinpoint> using xchat?
[10:12] <frans-th> i use mirc and xchat
[10:12] <pinpoint> mirc should be fine but xchat... i doubt it
[10:13] <timtux> xchat z3
[10:13] <timtux> <3*
[10:13] <pinpoint> you'll have to do some... perl/python mods
[10:13] <frans-th> i am searching a mirc like chat client.
[10:13] <frans-th> mods?
[10:14] <gorilla> xchat has an issue where it joins before identifying your nick :-(
[10:14] <timtux> yhea
[10:14] <frans-th> anyway, who is belutz :) indonesian guy?
[10:14] <Belutz> frans-th: yup :D
[10:14] <pinpoint> frans-th, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nocloakxchat
[10:14] <Napalmz> Qqun a un suggestion de CMS "Content management system" en dehors de dokuwiki, plone, zope, php-nuke?
[10:16] <frans-th> plone is cool
[10:16] <ikkys> when walking thru the installation, the system ask to create a user, now i can login as user but how do i login as root?
[10:16] <wolverian> I like bricolage.
[10:17] <Tomcat_> !rootsudo
[10:17] <ubotu> from memory, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:17] <Tomcat_> ikkys: Read that. :)
[10:17] <ikkys> thanks tomcat_
[10:18] <frans-th> hi all, know how to restart apache2?
[10:18] <frans-th> i got fail message
[10:18] <frans-th> but of course not from /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[10:20] <pinpoint> frans-th, /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:20] <Phantomcircuit-A> weird
[10:20] <Phantomcircuit-A> a ton of people just joined
[10:20] <Phantomcircuit-A> why does this smell like a botnet?
[10:20] <No1Viking> Script?
[10:21] <No1Viking> Yeah
[10:21] <bmecoli-> I'm not one
[10:21] <Phantomcircuit-A> they are joining at random intervels
[10:21] <bmecoli-> I swear
[10:21] <bmecoli-> >.>
[10:21] <frans-th> pinpoint: i did that, i just asking may be like service apache2 restart
[10:21] <bmecoli-> <.<
[10:21] <pinpoint> and from random places
[10:21] <onkarshinde> I am unable to play DVD on Hoary using totem. Can someone help me? I have installed all the necessary packages.
[10:21] <frans-th> pinpoint: which i found in fedora related.
[10:21] <pinpoint> perhaps
[10:22] <Tomcat_> onkarshinde: libdvdcss2?
[10:22] <bmecoli-> hey, anyone having any luck plaing games with dosemu?
[10:22] <DjKritical3> Does anyone know of a guide for mounting other ext3 partitions in ubuntu?
[10:22] <bmecoli-> is it really slow at all?
[10:23] <onkarshinde> Tomcat_: Yes. I did. Even mpeg2 plugin for gstreamer.
[10:23] <bmecoli-> in relation to dosbox (which is snail speed)
[10:23] <Tomcat_> onkarshinde: I doubt it'll work with totem-gstreamer... usually you have to get totem-xine.
[10:24] <onkarshinde> Tomcat_: I am able to play dvds with vlc. But the video stops in between.
[10:24] <pinpoint> xine works well on my box
[10:24] <onkarshinde> Tomcat_: I will try xine
[10:24] <frans-th> onkar: what is vlc?
[10:25] <pinpoint> videolan
[10:25] <pinpoint> videolan.org
[10:25] <pinpoint> its a media player
[10:25] <pinpoint> compact but very heavy duty
[10:25] <frans-th> never hear :)
[10:25] <pinpoint> imho
[10:26] <markuman> hi, does anyone use here gimp? how can i get on jpg rgb picture to one cmyk picture?
[10:26] <bmecoli-> um....
[10:26] <bmecoli-> did anyone hear me? ;p
[10:26] <onkarshinde> frans-th: vlc is good. It mostly works out of box. And avialable for win, lin & mac
[10:28] <Tomcat_> bmecoli-: I have only tried dosbox so far and it worked well (though only on the speed of a fast 386), so I have nothing to tell you. ;)
[10:28] <onkarshinde> I am having smartlink modem on my dads HP laptop. I am able to dial. But there is no sound of dialling. How do i enable that sound?
[10:28] <DjKritical3> Does ubuntu have a drive partitioning program?... or something which sets up fstab?... or is it more appropriate to do it manually?
[10:28] <DjKritical3> post-install
[10:29] <DjKritical3> (second harddisk)
[10:29] <frans-th> Dj: like diskdrake right
[10:29] <DjKritical3> oh okay? is that what it's called? =)
[10:30] <frans-th> :P
[10:30] <DjKritical3> That doesn't seem to be apart of the supported repositories tho? universe?
[10:33] <NoUse> DjKritical3 diskdrake is the partitioner mandrake uses, there is parted (or GUI qtparted) but that doesn't setup fstab for you
[10:34] <frans-th> qtparted? it is kde right...
[10:34] <DjKritical3> I should be able to do that... I was sort-of asking is that was still the correct way to do things in ubuntu
[10:34] <NoUse> it just written using the Qt toolkit
[10:35] <NoUse> DjKritical3 I don't think there is a officially santioned way
[10:36] <DjKritical3> ahh I see
[10:36] <DjKritical3> That would be a really handy tool for future releases =)
[10:38] <frans-th> oh, will gforge become part of the universe?
[10:39] <NoUse> frans-th not sure
[10:44] <brownie17> hello?
[10:44] <brownie17> Seveas?
[10:44] <brownie17> Can anyone help me?
[10:44] <brownie17> i have a boot problem
[10:44] <frans-th> anyone know how to refresh my apache2, i try install gforge from rolan website, and now my apache wont run
[10:45] <brownie17> i have ubuntu dual booting with windows xp, and i changed the size of the windows xp partition, and deleted an old partition, and now windows xp won't run
[10:45] <brownie17> i did this to the partittion through windows, but now i cant get back to see whats wrong
[10:45] <onkarshinde> brownie17: What exactly do you mean by won't run?
[10:46] <brownie17> it says "no such partition"
[10:46] <brownie17> from the grub boot loader
[10:47] <onkarshinde> brownie17: Most probably deleting the old partition changed the partition table. And not MBR is enable to find GRUB's configuration on expected partition.
[10:47] <brownie17> i dont know why, but i think maybe that the boot loader it went to after i clicked windows xp (that let me choose between 98 & xp) was actually from windows 98
[10:48] <brownie17> and when i deleted the partition with win 98 on it, GRUB now doesn't know where to take me
[10:48] <brownie17> Whats that about MBR?
[10:48] <brownie17> im confused
[10:48] <brownie17> do you know how i can rectify the situation?
[10:48] <onkarshinde> brownie17: No you are wrong
[10:48] <brownie17> because i really need that windows XP
[10:48] <brownie17> i don't really know, that was a guess
[10:48] <brownie17> you would know more about it
[10:49] <onkarshinde> The bootloader for 98 & Xp was from XP. So it might not be harmed at all
[10:49] <robotgeek> hi, would anyone know where to file a bug for breezy?
[10:49] <onkarshinde> Do one thing.
[10:49] <brownie17> whats that?
[10:49] <robotgeek> brownie17: new version of ubuntu, out in october..now in testing :)
[10:49] <onkarshinde> brownie17: If you have Ubuntu CD, boot in rescue mode & try changing grub's config
[10:49] <DjKritical3> by default the main ubuntu partition is ext3 right?... I've got the system drive from another ubuntu pc in this pc... and I can't mount it using ext3? anyone know why it might be saying wrong fs type?
[10:50] <robotgeek> brownie17: sorry, i misunderstood
[10:50] <brownie17> ok, but i dont really know anything about it, and i am a complete newbie, so i might have alot of difficulty, are there some more specific instructinos you can give me?
[10:50] <brownie17> will there be a tutorial of some sort on the internet?
[10:50] <onkarshinde> brownie17: Are you able to boot into Ubuntu?
[10:50] <brownie17> yes, i am in ubuntu now
[10:50] <brownie17> not the live version, but the installed one
[10:51] <deFrysk> brownie17, thats cool :)
[10:51] <onkarshinde> brownie17: Then tell me output of 'fdisk -l'
[10:51] <brownie17> ok
[10:51] <onkarshinde> sorry, fdisk -l /dev/hda
[10:51] <brownie17> ok
[10:52] <brownie17> cannot open /dev/hda
[10:52] <brownie17> thats what it says
[10:52] <robotgeek> is the bugzilla for breezy same as bugzilla at ubuntu? http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com ?
[10:52] <deFrysk> brownie17, he forgot to mention to use sudo
[10:52] <robotgeek> brownie17: sudo
[10:52] <brownie17> sudo?
[10:52] <brownie17> more specifically?
[10:52] <brownie17> i only just got my first installation of linux
[10:52] <robotgeek> !sudo
[10:52] <ubotu> methinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:52] <deFrysk> !sudo
[10:53] <deFrysk> drn L:
[10:53] <onkarshinde> Just wait. Do 'cat /boot/grub/menu.list' And tell me the lines that correspond to XP
[10:53] <brownie17> cat: /boot/grub/menu.list: No such file or directory
[10:53] <robotgeek> deFrysk: :)
[10:53] <deFrysk> ;p
[10:54] <onkarshinde> brownie17: sorry, meny.lst and not menu.list
[10:54] <robotgeek> brownie17: make that menu.lst
[10:54] <ZincX> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl
[10:54] <ZincX> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[10:54] <ZincX> make[4] : *** [perl.la]  Error 1
[10:54] <ZincX> make[4] : Leaving directory `/home/sasquach/xchat-2.4.4/plugins/perl'
[10:54] <ZincX> i had that problem
[10:55] <robotgeek> ZincX: use the pastebin
[10:55] <brownie17> cat: /boot/grub/meny.lst: No such file or directory
[10:55] <brownie17> i have no idea how to use the paste bin
[10:55] <robotgeek> !pastebin
[10:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:55] <sentinel> hi, I just noticed that the timezone doesn't account for daylight savings... is there a way to change that?
[10:55] <robotgeek> you just go to that link at the end, and paste whatever you want in there. then, paste back the url in here so that everyone can see
[10:56] <brownie17> onkarshinde: what do i do!?
[10:56] <dennis_> pointless for stuff 3-4 lines though
[10:56] <dennis_> :/
[10:56] <ZincX> hmm
[10:56] <dennis_> So don't be like 'pastebin' because he only posted 3 lines during inactivity :/
[10:57] <DjKritical3> ETX-3 fs group discriptors corrupted o_O? is this fixable?
[10:57] <ZincX> 4 lines
[10:57] <robotgeek> dennis_: i am mostly here during the day, ops generally would generally do that!
[10:57] <dennis_> How dumb
[10:57] <ZincX> how can i correc that ?
[10:57] <dennis_> If it isn't busy who cares if he only posted 3 lines :/
[10:57] <ZincX> lperl thing
[10:57] <robotgeek> dennis_: it is a lot busier during the day :)
[10:58] <dennis_> i know
[10:58] <dennis_> It is 2 Am here :/
[10:58] <brownie17> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1673
[10:58] <robotgeek> dennis_: it 4 am here !
[10:58] <dennis_> I'm scrambling to finish summer assignments
[10:58] <brownie17> onkarshinde: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1673
[10:58] <dennis_> i have 1 more day :/
[10:58] <robotgeek> haha...i graduated!!
[10:58] <sentinel> I just noticed that the timezone doesn't account for daylight savings... is there a way to change that?
[10:58] <dennis_> I'm a sophmore in HS
[10:58] <gorilla> sentinel, it should do if your hardware clock is in utc.
[10:58] <ZincX> sheesh :S u guys are too busy arguiing
[10:58] <brownie17> can someone help me?
[10:58] <robotgeek> i am a grad student, rather was!
[10:59] <sentinel> gorilla: I haven't used the hardware clock setting
[10:59] <brownie17> can you please talk about school and the like somewhere else? if you dont mind. this is a support channel
[10:59] <robotgeek> sentinel: try tzconfig, though i am not sure if it allows for utc setting
[11:00] <robotgeek> brownie17: i am on ppc, don't do grub
[11:00] <brownie17> onkarshinde?
[11:00] <brownie17> whats ppc?
[11:00] <ZincX> soo.. tell me :)
[11:00] <brownie17> im confused
[11:00] <sentinel> robotgeek: Your current time zone is set to Europe/London, Your time zone will not be changed, nothing there for daylight savings
[11:00] <robotgeek> brownie17: apple, powerpc
[11:00] <brownie17> ok
[11:00] <brownie17> why dont do grub?
[11:01] <brownie17> can someone please just tell me , no jargon, how to fix this
[11:01] <brownie17> i need that windows xp, and i am not advanced enough to chance bootloader, or do anything hard
[11:02] <robotgeek> sentinel: open up /etc/default/rcS
[11:02] <robotgeek> sentinel: more details in "man tzconfig"
[11:02] <brownie17> Robotgeek: can you please help me?
[11:02] <brownie17> robotgeek: or refer me to someone who can?
[11:02] <brownie17> robotgeek: im despreate
[11:02] <robotgeek> brownie17: lemme look
[11:02] <cyphase> why does synaptic want to remove at, lsb, mailx, mutt, and tripwire when i try to remove hula-manager?
[11:02] <kemik> brownie17:  what do you mean "need windows xp" ? it doesnt show up as an option when you boot?
[11:03] <brownie17> it shows up, but i cant acces it, it says 'no such partition'
[11:03] <robotgeek> sentinel: set utc=no/yes in /etc/default/rcS
[11:03] <brownie17> i need it becasue i do not have drivers for my printer or anything i need in linux
[11:03] <kemik> brownie17:  try "fdisk -l"
[11:03] <brownie17> it doesnt work
[11:03] <kemik> or rather DO fdisk -l
[11:04] <kemik> what ?
[11:04] <ciluuk> brownie17 i need that windows xp, and i am not advanced enough to chance bootloader, or do anything hard --> mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>:))
[11:04] <robotgeek> kemik: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1673 is his grub.lst
[11:04] <kemik> robotgeek:  yeah, but i wanna know where his NTFS partition is
[11:04] <robotgeek> kemik: k
[11:04] <brownie17> i have two harddrives, and microsoft are too crap to even try and help me
[11:05] <kemik> brownie17:  are you sure there are no printerdrivers available for your printer btw ?
[11:05] <brownie17> very sure
[11:05] <brownie17> i looked for hours
[11:05] <brownie17> but thats not the only reason, the others are more important
[11:05] <kemik> brownie17:  so windows is on one HD and linux on the other right ?
[11:05] <brownie17> yes
[11:05] <brownie17> kemik: yes your right
[11:06] <kemik> i think you can boot from the windows cd
[11:06] <kemik> and use fixmbr
[11:06] <robotgeek> !info vlc
[11:06] <brownie17> i do not have the windows cp
[11:06] <kemik> that will render your ubuntu install useless of course
[11:06] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[11:06] <brownie17> cd
[11:06] <kemik> heh
[11:06] <brownie17> kemik: i borrowed a burnt copy
[11:06] <cyphase> !info ubuntu
[11:07] <cyphase> tsk tsk
[11:07] <fek> moin
[11:07] <kemik> brownie17:  should have made a copy yourself instead.. oh well
[11:07] <brownie17> kemik: linux is too difficult, there should be an easy way to acces the grub bootloader
[11:07] <robotgeek> cyphase: are u a victim of bot abuse?
[11:07] <sentinel> one other thing while i'm here... is there a way to speed up the login process? when logging in via ssh it seems to hang there for about 5secs before prompting for the password
[11:07] <cyphase> robotgeek, no..
[11:08] <kemik> brownie17:  you've never been able to boot winxp since you installed ubuntu?
[11:08] <kemik> (and yes, linux is still too hard for computer novices)
[11:08] <robotgeek> kemik: unless u have a old machine :(
[11:08] <cyphase> kemik, not all computer novices
[11:08] <ZincX> :S
[11:08] <brownie17> yes, i could. but then i resized the windows partititon, and deleted another partitino on the same drive
[11:08] <ZincX> how do i mount my other hdd ?
[11:08] <robotgeek> sentinel: don't know abt that one!
[11:08] <ZincX> automatically ?
[11:08] <sentinel> :)
[11:09] <brownie17> kemik: the other partition had windows 98 on it
[11:09] <kemik> hm. well do "fdisk -l" in a terminal window
[11:09] <kemik> robotgeek:  what? =)
[11:09] <robotgeek> ZincX: for your other problem, i would see if installing and reinstalling perl package with "apt-get install --reinstall perl-package" and see if that works
[11:09] <brownie17> Disk /dev/sda: 519 MB, 519569408 bytes
[11:09] <brownie17> 129 heads, 32 sectors/track, 245 cylinders
[11:09] <brownie17> Units = cylinders of 4128 * 512 = 2113536 bytes
[11:09] <brownie17>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:09] <brownie17> /dev/sda1               1         246      507376    4  FAT16 <32M
[11:09] <brownie17> Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
[11:09] <brownie17>      phys=(249, 128, 32) logical=(245, 106, 32)
[11:09] <kemik> argh
[11:09] <brownie17> fraser@brownie:~$
[11:09] <kemik> !pastebin
[11:09] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:09] <kemik> NEVER paste in here
[11:09] <brownie17> ok
[11:09] <brownie17> i thought it was smaller
[11:09] <brownie17> sorry
[11:10] <brownie17> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1674
[11:10] <robotgeek> ZincX: you could put it in your fstab?
[11:10] <brownie17> Kemik: in recovery mode, how do i edit the grub boot loader?
[11:10] <kemik> brownie17:  do this instead "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda"
[11:11] <kemik> and paste that
[11:11] <kemik> !ntfs
[11:11] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[11:11] <kemik> that will probably help you ZincX
[11:11] <kemik> use that script
[11:12] <ZincX> hmm
[11:12] <brownie17> kemik: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1675
[11:13] <youngcoder> anyone feel like helping me with samba?
[11:13] <ZincX> my net connection is slow :@
[11:13] <ZincX> damn my isp
[11:13] <ikkys> guys, is there a normal font thats not BOLD in linux or ubuntu?
[11:13] <robotgeek> ZincX: most probably, u have the packages cached
[11:15] <brownie17> Kemik: what now?
[11:15] <youngcoder> can anyone help me with samba?
[11:15] <gorilla> youngcoder, you are asking to ask, just ask :-)
[11:15] <robotgeek> youngcoder: if you have a specific problem, please state it!
[11:15] <kemik> brownie17:  edit your grubconfig as such: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1676
[11:15] <kemik> brownie17:  it's in the bottom (4 rows from bottom)
[11:15] <kemik> !anyone
[11:15] <ubotu> anyone is, like, 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[11:16] <ompaul> ikkys, lots, can you put your question in some context please
[11:16] <youngcoder> my windows box wont recognize my linux box
[11:16] <youngcoder> what is wrong?
[11:16] <kemik> youngcoder:  lots of things
[11:16] <brownie17> Kemik: are you sure that will work?
[11:16] <kemik> youngcoder:  can you ping between the boxes?
[11:16] <youngcoder> kemik, lol i know
[11:16] <kemik> brownie17:  not 100% no.. try ;)
[11:16] <youngcoder> kemik, im not sure i dont know how
[11:17] <brownie17> kemik: ok, ill try it, i will be back in two minutes
[11:17] <kemik> in a terminal "ping IPnumberOfWindowsMachine"
[11:17] <kemik> youngcoder:  if you have a firewall it may block pings etc
[11:17] <brownie17> kemik: do i have to restart in recovery mode to acces bootloader?
[11:17] <ZincX> robotgeek,
[11:17] <ZincX> Reading package lists... Done
[11:17] <ZincX> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:17] <ZincX> E: Couldn't find package perl-package
[11:17] <gorilla> brownie17, no you don't... generally anyway..
[11:18] <robotgeek> ZincX: okay, i meant if you were looking at a specific perl package, hol on
[11:18] <robotgeek> ZincX: *hold on
[11:18] <ikkys> ompaul, well, all the font from system font looks bold, is there like a true type font i can use? those like in windows, the thin type?
[11:18] <ZincX> robotgeek, ok thnx. got it :D
[11:19] <ompaul> ikkys, what which application / environment - there are 16k apps available
[11:19] <robotgeek> ZincX: cool
[11:20] <ZincX> :)
[11:20] <ZincX> thnx
[11:20] <ZincX> now brb
[11:21] <ompaul> I wonder should some people be asked to type their 'thoughts' into pastebin and only converse through urls :-/
[11:22] <gorilla> ompaul, sounds like an html-to-irc gateway... what a concept!
[11:22] <ikkys> well, im basicly talking bout ubuntut in general. im in the desktop now, but most things/fonts looks as if they are bold. when i change them to "regular" and "8px" they still look fat, i was wondering if ubuntu or linux itself has thin fonts
[11:22] <ompaul> ikkys, I am interested but keeping track over 5 minutes of a three line conversation is a little hard
[11:23] <ikkys> well, im basicly talking bout ubuntut in general. im in the desktop now, but most things/fonts looks as if they are bold. when i change them to "regular" and "8px" they still look fat, i was wondering if ubuntu or linux itself has thin fonts
[11:24] <kemik> my fonts look slim
[11:24] <ompaul> ikkys, I do not experiance this myself, my onscreen fonts are slim
[11:24] <ompaul> ikkys, what resolution are you using?
[11:24] <brownie17> Kemik: im back
[11:25] <brownie17> Kemik: what did you sya just before i left?
[11:25] <ikkys> 1024-768
[11:25] <youngcoder> kemik, ok i pinged the windows box
[11:25] <ikkys> 30-60horiz 56-75vertrefresh
[11:25] <ikkys> im on a 15' tft lcd
[11:25] <brownie17> Kemik: you there? i asked do you hae to use recovery mode to acces grub boot loader, i didnt catch what you said
[11:25] <ompaul> ikkys, no idea with that one, let me poke the web for a moment
[11:27] <cyphase> *sigh*
[11:27] <cyphase> is brezzy going to have better support for python in apache?
[11:28] <brownie17> Kemik: !!!!!
[11:28] <ikkys> thx ompaul
[11:28] <brownie17> Kemik: got to go, back in 30 mins
[11:28] <robotgeek> ikkys: do u have autohinting on?
[11:28] <ikkys> even firefox browser titles are big
[11:28] <ikkys> autohinting? how do i check if its on?
[11:29] <robotgeek> ikkys: do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig" and select subpixel rendering
[11:29] <kemik> youngcoder:  ah, so it works ? you got replies?
[11:29] <youngcoder> yes
[11:29] <ikkys> kemik, can u havea look at your desktop snapshot?
[11:30] <kemik> youngcoder:  are your linux anb windows boxes using the same "workgroup" ?
[11:30] <ikkys> robotgeek, ok let me try that
[11:30] <youngcoder> kemik, yes MSHOME
[11:30] <robotgeek> ikkys: do u have a screenshot of your box so that we can understand better? :)
[11:30] <bartp> hi
[11:30] <kemik> ok
[11:30] <robotgeek> bartp: hi
[11:30] <kemik> youngcoder:  tried manually mount the partitions?
[11:30] <ikkys> yes
[11:31] <youngcoder> kemik, that is where you lose me.. i have no clue about that
[11:31] <robotgeek> ikkys: link?
[11:31] <kemik> (you'll need to apt-get install smbfs) then "sudo mount -t smbfs ipnumber\sharename  /path/to/mountpoint"
[11:31] <ikkys> hold on
[11:32] <ikkys> robotgeek, the reconfigure subpixel, wats that for?
[11:32] <kemik> youngcoder:  tried "places --> network servers" ?
[11:32] <ompaul> ikkys,  pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl  may be useful
[11:32] <youngcoder> kemik, can you send that to me in {PM please
[11:32] <youngcoder> kemik, let me look in places
[11:32] <ikkys> hold on, letme login from ubuntu
[11:34] <ikkys> hi again folks
[11:34] <ikkys> ok im on the ubuntu machine
[11:35] <youngcoder> kemik, how do i get to places network servers in KDE
[11:36] <ikkys> how do i install apache?
[11:36] <dennis_> sudo apt-get install apache2
[11:37] <ikkys> dennis_ is there a precompiled apache/mysql/php package?
[11:37] <dennis_> For all your ubuntu needs, www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:37] <kemik> youngcoder:  awh, KDE, no idea :/
[11:37] <NoUse> !ubuntuguide
[11:37] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[11:37] <dennis_> Tells you how to do everything you could possibly think of
[11:37] <dennis_> no
[11:37] <dennis_> www.ubuntuguide.org is better than the wiki
[11:38] <kemik> eh no
[11:38] <robotgeek> dennis_: not recommended if you are a newbie to linux
[11:38] <dennis_> :/
[11:38] <dennis_> I used it when I first started
[11:38] <dennis_> It was really easy :/
[11:38] <kemik> the wiki is much better than the guide
[11:38] <dennis_> How much easier can it get?
[11:38] <kemik> easy yeah, did you learn anything more than type the commands ?
[11:38] <youngcoder> kemik, let me switch to gnome be right back
[11:39] <dennis_> kemik, I learn by practice :)
[11:39] <dennis_> Therefore I learned alot from the guide
[11:39] <cyphase> i just registered this.. is ubuntu on a 6 month release cycle because gnome is as well?
[11:39] <cyphase> :)
[11:39] <NoUse> dennis_ you're giving them a fish with the guide, the wiki teaches them to fish
[11:39] <dennis_> lol
[11:40] <dennis_> Linux isn't that hard
[11:40] <dennis_> :P
[11:40] <dennis_> Learning to fish is really easy :0
[11:40] <ompaul> the wiki is suggested to be the way to help new users
[11:40] <dennis_> okay
[11:41] <youngcoder> kemik, ok im on gnome
[11:41] <dennis_> I was just saying that the guide helped me out a lot but what ever
[11:41] <youngcoder> can you resend that command via PM
[11:41] <kemik> youngcoder:  try places>network server
[11:41] <ompaul> dennis_, fine, but the wiki.ubuntu.com from now on for anyone else :)
[11:41] <dennis_> k
[11:41] <youngcoder> kemik, i have windows network folder in there and it is empty
[11:42] <dennis_> G?
[11:42] <kemik> youngcoder:  ok. thats a start
[11:42] <kemik> bbl
[11:42] <robotgeek> ompaul: it worked!
[11:42] <ompaul> dennis_, exactly :)
[11:43] <dennis_> oh
[11:43] <dennis_> guide ;P
[11:43] <ompaul> !kill dennis_
[11:43] <ubotu> ompaul: What?
[11:43] <ompaul> heheh
[11:43] <robotgeek> !lart dennis_
[11:43] <dennis_> Wtf does that do?
[11:44] <robotgeek> !botsnack
[11:44] <ubotu> :)
[11:44] <robotgeek> dennis_: fun with bots!
[11:44] <dennis_> Any of you ever read the book "black boy"
[11:45] <dennis_> :o
[11:45] <kemik> youngcoder:  you've shared stuff on the windows computer ?
[11:45] <ompaul> does he do ubuntu?
[11:45] <dennis_> no
[11:45] <dennis_> He makes me write reports :/
[11:45] <dennis_> :P
[11:45] <scanwinder> does anyone know howto change the homepage for dillo?(only asking here coz there dosent appear to be a dillo irc channel)
[11:45] <youngcoder> kemik, yes with other windows boxes but it has been reformatted and has never shared via samba
[11:46] <youngcoder> kemik, but i do have file sharing active and firewall allowing it
[11:47] <frans-th> hi all :P
[11:47] <Shacham> i have a problem with ALSA. im not able to use my sound card in more than 1 software at a time
[11:47] <Shacham> i followed this HOWTO but its still not working: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[11:47] <frans-th> several sound card event supported in linux, cannot run well :)
[11:47] <Shacham> :(
[11:48] <Shacham> i have AC97
[11:48] <frans-th> i have 2 notebook with realtek AC97, the nec version the sound work well, but in my toshiba a60
[11:48] <frans-th> toshiba is not designed to run linux :)
[11:48] <Shacham> i use onboard sound card
[11:48] <kemik> youngcoder:  filesharing acitve, but not actually sharing a folder?
[11:48] <Shacham> intel AC97
[11:48] <frans-th> Shacham: you have the same sound card with me :)
[11:49] <frans-th> Shacham: mine here, detected, installed, but the sound gone :(
[11:49] <youngcoder> kemik, there are shared folders yes
[11:49] <kemik> ok.. hmm weird
[11:49] <kemik> try the mount command then
[11:49] <Shacham> frans-th, i have sound but only in 1 software at a time :\
[11:49] <frans-th> Shacham: what is one soft at one times?
[11:50] <ompaul> scanwinder, I suggest you look at the bottom of that page where it talks about the .dillorc and the nice text file - I presume you can find the system wide one and (A) modify it or (B) create a .dillorc file based on that infor and move on from there
[11:50] <Shacham> ?
[11:50] <tommi^> Hi. I'm trying to get skype working and the current problem I'm facing is getting it work with esd.  Skype's website mentions about using esddsp skype command to run skype with esd but I can't such command and apt-cache search esddsp gives no results either. What to do? Thanks
[11:50] <robotgeek> Shacham: dual sound seems to be an issue, i think u have to mess around with esd or something. i am not sure
[11:51] <youngcoder> kemik, ok installing smbfs now
[11:51] <Shacham> frans-th, you can here dual sound with your realtek AC97?
[11:51] <Shacham> can you*
[11:51] <frans-th> oh, you are using 2 soundcard in one motherboard? what is dual sound mean?
[11:52] <youngcoder> kemik, in that command is the IP the linux box or windows box ip?
[11:52] <Shacham> hmm
[11:52] <Shacham> for example play a game and use skype at the same time
[11:54] <ompaul> tommi^,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1677 shows you a file I have that allows skype to work - but - and a bit but I can only have one thing at a time - skype or music or some other app doing sound
[11:54] <ikkys> guys, apt-get install apache2 returns an error, it said, the following package has unmet depedencies. then it asks me to do a apt-get -f install, but still same resutl
[11:55] <ompaul> ikkys, try apt-get update first
[11:55] <tommi^> ompaul, that's simply not good enough. Sorry, it really has to work.
[11:55] <frans-th> Shacham: never try it :( sorry cannot help, here, my sound card work well, but in my toshiba, i hate toshiba
[11:55] <youngcoder> kemik, in that command is the IP the linux box or windows box ip?
[11:55] <kemik> youngcoder:  the server IP ofcourse ;)
[11:55] <tommi^> ompaul, but thanks for your tip. Could anyone else give some insight on this?
[11:55] <ompaul> tommi^, it works for me, you can hack it, there is enough info out there I just have not got the motivation
[11:56] <youngcoder> kemik, please excuse me i am very noob at linux... where do i find the server ip?
[11:56] <kemik> youngcoder:  and /path/to/mountpoint is an empty folder
[11:56] <ikkys> actually, before i did the apt-get install apache2, i followed the guide and added repositories and apt-get update.
[11:56] <kemik> youngcoder:  that's the IP of your windowsbox
[11:56] <youngcoder> ok
[11:56] <ompaul> ikkys, are you using hoary?
[11:57] <tommi^> ompaul, but the problem is that skype uses directly /dev/dsp and not through esd. I don't see how modifying esd's config would get it working.
[11:58] <ikkys> ompaul, hmm, ok now it worked, it was asking me to download firefox english language, some sort like that, hehe, but now apt-get install apache2 is downloading..
[11:58] <youngcoder> kemik, can i send you a pm so i dont spam the channel/
[11:58] <youngcoder> ?
[11:58] <ompaul> tommi^, I use skpe a lot - and that config works for me
[11:59] <kemik> youngcoder:  keep spamming, but if it's > 2 lines use pastebin
[11:59] <ompaul> tommi^, I have not bothered to get sound working on this hoary box - It is a lot better on breezy and it is not an imperative for me to make more happen,
[11:59] <cyphase> for those people who were asking about tasklist notification, it's been added in Gnome 2.12
[11:59] <ompaul> tommi^, let me rephrase that, working correctly
[11:59] <youngcoder> kemik, oops
[12:00] <youngcoder> kemik, btw i dont know what pastebin is
[12:00] <kemik> !pastebin
[12:00] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:01] <tommi^> ompaul, but you said that it doesn't work side by side. Anyway, I think I have found something from the skype's forums.
[12:01] <ompaul> enjoy
[12:08] <youngcoder> kemik http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1678
[12:08] <Stormx2> Hey people
[12:09] <youngcoder> hey Stormx2
[12:09] <kemik> youngcoder:  ah, use the -o username=yourusername,password=yourpassword
[12:09] <Stormx2> Has anyone here used multisync?
[12:12] <Stormx2> Hello? Anyone used multisync?
[12:13] <Belutz> what cause the kernel panic when i'm trying to boot from live cd?
[12:13] <youngcoder> kemik, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1679
Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[12:15] <robotgeek> Stormx2: me planning to, in a few days...too lazy!
[12:15] <robotgeek> nite ppl
[12:17] <kemik> youngcoder:  well it'd be like "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=...,password=... windowsmachine\share /path/to/mountpoint"
[12:17] <youngcoder> lol
[12:17] <youngcoder> sorry
[12:17] <youngcoder> ok
[12:19] <youngcoder> kemik, i got the same thing.. i have to leave for a week.. ill try to research while i am gone
[12:19] <youngcoder> thanks for the help
[12:19] <kemik> k
[12:19] <Stormx2> hey
[12:20] <Stormx2> ./bootstrap: line 44: aclocal: command not found
[12:20] <Stormx2> Thats kinda annoyin
[12:23] <Tadej`Certanc> hello
[12:23] <Tadej`Certanc> Can someone tell me something
[12:24] <Tadej`Certanc> If I install amavis-new from apt do I have to change postfix config file?
[12:24] <kyncani> Stormx2: me thinks you should use apt-file search
[12:24] <procrastinator> Now who's the genius that made gaim-data 1.1.4 depend on gaim 1.1.4 without uploading gaim 1.1.4?
[12:24] <Chousuke> the maintainer? :P
[12:24] <Chousuke> t
[12:25] <Chousuke> stuff like that happens sometimes.
[12:25] <ikkys> is there a windows emulator for ubuntu
[12:25] <Tadej`Certanc> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net'
[12:25] <Tadej`Certanc> hmm
[12:25] <Tadej`Certanc> Is there another hostname for this?
[12:25] <az[a] zel> ikkys, qemu? bochs? vmware?
[12:25] <az[a] zel> ikkys, or you mean, wine?
[12:25] <ikkys> wine
[12:26] <ikkys> apt-get install wine?
[12:26] <az[a] zel> apt-cache search wine
[12:27] <Tadej`Certanc> well?
[12:27] <Tadej`Certanc> anyone?
[12:28] <ikkys> ok
[12:32] <topyli> Tadej`Certanc: sure there are other mirrors, as listed on the backports web page
[12:33] <Stormx2> contact.c: In function `strbuf_append_date':
[12:33] <Stormx2> contact.c:129: error: `TIME_FIELDS' undeclared (first use in this function)
[12:33] <Stormx2> while using make.
[12:34] <Tadej`Certanc> hmm
[12:34] <Tadej`Certanc> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:34] <Tadej`Certanc>   clamav-daemon: Depends: clamav-base (= 0.85.1-2~5.04ubp1) but 0.83-2ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:34] <Tadej`Certanc> enyc: Broken packages
[12:34] <Tadej`Certanc> so what do I have to do?
[12:35] <Tadej`Certanc> It says that clamav-base is installed
[12:35] <Seveas> first of all you DONT PASTE IN HERE
[12:35] <Seveas> and second: disable backports
[12:35] <Tadej`Certanc> Seveas: how?
[12:35] <Seveas> the same way as you enabled it...
[12:36] <Tadej`Certanc> Seveas: I didnt as far as I know :)
[12:36] <Tadej`Certanc> do I coment it in sources.list?
[12:36] <Seveas> nonsense, you enabled or it would not ask for it.
[12:36] <Seveas> yes, you remove from sources.list
[12:36] <Tadej`Certanc> hmm
[12:36] <Tadej`Certanc> ok
[12:36] <Tadej`Certanc> what about clamav?
[12:37] <Seveas> what about it?
[12:37] <Tadej`Certanc> clamav-daemon: Depends: clamav-base (= 0.85.1-2~5.04ubp1) but 0.83-2ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:37] <Tadej`Certanc> but I have installed clamav-base
[12:37] <guzu> hello all
[12:37] <Seveas> and second: disable backports <-----------------
[12:37] <Seveas> then you can install it
[12:37] <Tadej`Certanc> ok
[12:38] <Tadej`Certanc> thanks
[12:38] <topyli> Tadej`Certanc: as you can see, it's the wrong version. disable backports and fix broken packages first. then install clamav if it is removed
[12:39] <skullzBOFH> hi!
[12:40] <ekimus> hi i think the gcc b0rked somehow on my system, or more precise some includes behave very strange. i did some coding yesterday and it compiled just fine: today the same code won't have a look at the compiler output please: http://pastebin.com/348301
[12:40] <guzu> hi
[12:41] <guzu> anyone knows how to setup an isa sound card non pnp on ubuntu 5.04?
[12:41] <qt2> hm, is there an easy way to log out of an x session from the terminal...?
[12:42] <ekimus> qt2: you could always kill your xsession (if it belongs to that user)
[12:42] <ikkys> how do i use wine? i have apt-get install, and i think its done now, how do i execute it?
[12:42] <ekimus> ikkys: wine name_of_win_program
[12:43] <qt2> ekimus, true... and how would i do that? XD
[12:43] <guzu> ikkys, wine file.exe, or even better man wine :)
[12:43] <ikkys> so that means, i have to install that win program fist?
[12:43] <ikkys> man wine, ok let me check that
[12:43] <qt2> ekimus, killall -9 what?
[12:43] <ekimus> qt2: ps -u $USER will show you the processes you run. then "pkill processname"
[12:43] <ikkys> no manual for wine
[12:44] <topyli> ikkys: well, you run the windows app's installer through wine of course
[12:44] <topyli> ikkys: you don
[12:44] <Belutz> ekimus: why i always failed in installing ie 6 in wine?
[12:44] <Stormx2> ekimus: GNOME has a frontend for that, you know.
[12:44] <ekimus> qt2: can't help you any further i'm not using gnome so i don't know what the process name is
[12:44] <topyli> 't actually "run" wine
[12:44] <ekimus> Stormx2: no i don't know, cause i don't use gnome :)
[12:44] <Stormx2> kde?
[12:44] <qt2> ekimus, 'gnome-session' i'm guessing?
[12:44] <ekimus> Stormx2: ion3
[12:44] <guzu> Belutz, maybe the required things were not there
[12:44] <Stormx2> ekimus: Any good?
[12:45] <ekimus> qt2: sounds good to me
[12:45] <ekimus> Stormx2: perfect for me
[12:45] <ikkys> so i download the file to the linux desktop and run  it thru wine, like that?
[12:45] <Belutz> guzu: such as?
[12:45] <guzu> Belutz, try to install ie6 and look at the output
[12:45] <guzu> Belutz, sstart from terminal
[12:45] <ekimus> ikkys: probably, i just read some stuff about it i don't use wine normally i use vmware for running windows
[12:46] <topyli> ikkys: yes, something like "wine setup.exe". you really should read some documentation
[12:46] <guzu> anybody knows if there's an rc.local somewhere?
[12:46] <guzu> or should i touch it?
[12:46] <ekimus> guzu: there isn't just create one
[12:46] <ikkys> ok i just apt-get install wine-doc, now how i read it?
[12:47] <ikkys> vmware? anylinks
[12:47] <guzu> ekimus, wich are the relevant runlevels in ubuntu? 3 and 4?
[12:47] <guzu> vmware.com
[12:47] <topyli> guzu: just 2 really
[12:47] <ekimus> guzu: just use update-rc.d
[12:48] <Belutz> guzu: here's the output http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1681
[12:48] <guzu> topyli, ekimus thnx
[12:48] <ikkys> how to execute read wine-doc?
[12:49] <topyli> ikkys: find the files, read them that's all
[12:50] <ikkys> ya of course, its not like i never used windows...but, i type at root prompt: wine-doc, it said, command not found
[12:51] <Frafra> hi all
[12:51] <topyli> ikkys: they're probably in /usr/share /doc, it's not a command
[12:51] <guzu> Belutz, too much noise, paste only ie6 relevant please
[12:51] <Frafra> I'm using hoary for am64. What i must do for play dvd video?
[12:51] <Belutz> that's the output of "wine ie6setup.exe"
[12:52] <Uthini> i'm having some minor issues
[12:52] <topyli> Belutz: probably "thank you for choosing IE6. IE just got better than ever" :-)
[12:53] <linuxboy> is there any p2p software in linux?
[12:53] <linuxboy> (in ubuntu)
[12:53] <az[a] zel> azureus
[12:53] <Uthini> !bluetooth
[12:53] <ubotu> Uthini: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:53] <ikkys> nope not there
[12:53] <Belutz> topyli: actually i don't want to install IE 6, but some apps require IE to be installed
[12:54] <az[a] zel> linuxboy, i pretty much just use bittorrent, and for that I use azureus (java required)
[12:54] <az[a] zel> linuxboy, but search for bittorrent in synaptic, and you'll find some gnome-torrent downloader thingy
[12:54] <az[a] zel> i guess there's also limewire (java required), but I've never used it
[12:55] <az[a] zel> almost every other p2p app on linux bites it big time .. :/
[12:56] <Frafra> !dvd
[12:56] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[12:56] <Frafra> !dvd amd64
[12:56] <ubotu> Frafra: Are you on ritalin?
[12:56] <guzu> Frafra, tried xine?
[12:56] <Frafra> yes
[12:56] <az[a] zel> I like totem for DVD playback these days
[12:56] <az[a] zel> simple, and it works
[12:57] <lithium> hi all
[12:57] <az[a] zel> of course, it's just a fancy wrapper for xine
[12:57] <brownie17> Kemik: are you there?
[12:57] <guzu> hi lithium
[12:58] <brownie17> can anyone help me?
[12:58] <brownie17> i want to know how to edit the GRUB bootloader
[12:58] <guzu> brownie17, wich editor?
[12:58] <brownie17> GUZU: what do you mean?
[12:58] <lithium> i've updated my ubuntu test installation from hoary to breezy and now server gnome applets (like the clock, desktop switcher, etc) doesn't start anymore. since this is a test installation it doesn't relly matter, but is there a way to fix this, or is this a known problem and i just have to wait until the packages are updated?
[12:59] <guzu> brownie17, anyway, try this: gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst as root, ofc
[12:59] <brownie17> when you say root, do i have to log in as root, or just use root terminal?
[12:59] <thenuke> brownie17: terminal is ok
[01:00] <guzu> thenuke, is there a root terminal somewhere? :)
[01:00] <thenuke> brownie17: you can also use normal user terminal and type  sudo apt-get update  for example if you need to run some command as a root
[01:00] <thenuke> guzu: should be on the desktop :)
[01:00] <guzu> thenuke, sudo gedit will work?
[01:00] <thenuke> guzu: I think so yes
[01:00] <bimberi> guzu: yes
[01:00] <guzu> thenuke, i have only windowmaker since my machine it's a tiny one :)
[01:01] <topyli> guzu: there is one in the apps menu
[01:01] <bimberi> Apps -> System Tools -> Root Terminal
[01:01] <thenuke> guzu: ok :)
[01:01] <thenuke> guzu: well, you can then fireup normal console, and use that sudo.. if you want to have an root terminal, you can type sudo su  and type in your password
[01:02] <thenuke> guzu: then  commanding exit returns you back to your normal user terminal
[01:03] <Frafra> it says that there aren't some plugins
[01:03] <guzu> thenuke, no
[01:04] <elver> pppoeconf somehow runs "pon" on boot to start the pppoe session. I don't want that happening anymore. how can I remove it?
[01:04] <guzu> thenuke, sudo su is not working here, although su - works just fine
[01:04] <thenuke> guzu: very weird :)
[01:04] <guzu> Frafra, it is possible that some plugins are not compiled for 64 bits but check it
[01:05] <guzu> thenuke, maybe it's because first thing i did was start in single and reset the root pass to a known one :)
[01:05] <thenuke> guzu: that should not affect it afaik
[01:06] <dv_> hi
[01:06] <thenuke> dv_: hi
[01:06] <guzu> thenuke, here sudo gedit doesn't work either
[01:06] <dv_> I have two problems with the kubuntu desktop
[01:06] <guzu> dv_, hi
[01:06] <dv_> first: I am using it on a laptop, and theres the "LCD Off" "LCD On" message popping up frequently
[01:06] <brownie17> Kemik: i did as you told me to do
[01:06] <guzu> !runlevel
[01:06] <ubotu> guzu: No idea
[01:06] <guzu> !runlevels
[01:06] <ubotu> guzu: I don't know
[01:07] <elver> Um. I can start services with /etc/init.d scripts. But how do I add those scripts to the boot sequence? In Gentoo I did something like "rc-update add scriptname bootlevel" What's the equivalent in Ubuntu?
[01:07] <guzu> ok ubotu
[01:07] <thoreauputic> dv_: you know there's a #kubuntu, right ?
[01:07] <dv_> second, I heard about a way to synchronize kde and gnome themes
[01:07] <dv_> oh :) sorry
[01:07] <thoreauputic> dv_: no no - it's OK - just letting you know :)
[01:07] <CentraX> hello there
[01:07] <reiki> woot!  I think I have CD printing working on my Epson R200. But the driver from TurboPrint costs $37US. Will be worth it as I think this is among the lasy items I needed so I don't have to boot back toWinXP
[01:08] <thoreauputic> dv_: you aren't off topic :)
[01:08] <CentraX> where is the swedish irc channel for ubuntu linux?
[01:08] <dv_> so is it possible to synchronize the kde and gtk themes somehow?
[01:08] <CentraX> =/
[01:08] <Gnonthgol> #ubuntu-se
[01:08] <CentraX> thx
[01:08] <thoreauputic>  #ubuntu.se ?
[01:08] <gantchev> hi
[01:08] <priest> CentraX:: #ubuntu.se
[01:09] <thoreauputic> dv_: you might look for gtk-qt engine - I forget the exact name
[01:09] <gantchev> is there someone who use Xinerama on ATI Radeon dual head ?
[01:09] <brownie17> can anyone at all help me, my GRUB boot sequence stopped working when i resized my winxp partition, and deleted my old win 98se partition. now GRUB won't let me get ot my windows os selector anymore
[01:09] <Gnonthgol> CentraX: but feel free to join the norwegian chanel at #ubuntu-no
[01:09] <dv_> k
[01:09] <sorush20> hi... what the hell is going on with the freenode...
[01:10] <thoreauputic> dv_: apt-cache search gtk qt returns "gtk2-engines-gtk-qt - Makes your GTK 2 apps look like Qt ones"
[01:10] <liable> sorush20: /umode +E
[01:11] <CrackersKeenan> anyone had trouble exporting files using KINO?
[01:11] <sorush20> liable: what does that code do..
[01:11] <brownie17> can anyone at all help me, my GRUB boot sequence stopped working when i resized my winxp partition, and deleted my old win 98se partition. now GRUB won't let me get ot my windows os selector anymore
[01:12] <sorush20> did you use partition magic brownie17
[01:12] <brownie17> no
[01:12] <CentraX> Is ubuntu a hard dist?
[01:12] <Gnonthgol> brownie17: Try reinstalling Grub
[01:12] <CentraX> :/
[01:12] <brownie17> i used acronis partition editor
[01:12] <CentraX> i suck at linux
[01:12] <bimberi> sorush20: prevents private messages from people who have not identified themselves to NickServ
[01:12] <brownie17> how do i reinstal GRUB without reinstalling linux
[01:13] <ekimus> anybody knows some fix to that compile error: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/include/stddef.h:213: error: Syntaxfehler before "typedef" (even happens with a simple hello world program)
[01:13] <kemik> brownie17:  it didnt work ?
[01:13] <brownie17> gnonthgol: how do i reinstall grub without having to reinstall linux
[01:13] <brownie17> no it didnt kemik
[01:13] <Gnonthgol> brownie17: grub just installs a intalation and configuring probram in linux
[01:13] <brownie17> it came up with another error
[01:13] <kemik> what error ?
[01:14] <brownie17> can't remember exactly, but something equally annoying, i will restart and write down everything it says
[01:14] <brownie17> be right back everyone
[01:14] <frans-th> j/join #ubuntu-devel
[01:15] <sorush20> guys what is happening with the freenode serv..
[01:15] <sorush20> is it crashing
[01:15] <CentraX> I get a lot of spam here
[01:15] <CentraX> y
[01:15] <CentraX> help
[01:15] <az[a] zel> CentraX, because people suck
[01:15] <CentraX> :/
[01:15] <Bergcube> CentraX~ Read the topic.
[01:15] <CentraX> oh i see
[01:15] <az[a] zel> CentraX, do /mode Centrax +E
[01:15] <thenuke> I cant ping any localhosts.. what could be the matter?
[01:15] <CentraX> 13:15:50  Unknown command umode
[01:15] <CentraX> lol
[01:15] <CentraX> ??
[01:16] <sorush20> who the hell is spamming..
[01:16] <frans-th> hi all
[01:16] <frans-th> any tips for moving apt cache from one computer to another computer, so i dont have to get it from the internet again
[01:17] <nalioth_wrkn> sorush20: there is a plague of spambots on the loose, set yourself +CE and it will cut out most of it
[01:17] <nalioth_wrkn> frans-th: just move it
[01:17] <Bergcube> frans-th~ That was described in detail on the ubuntu-users mailinglist recently.  I must admit I'm to lazy to find the URL.
[01:18] <sorush20> nalioth_wrkn: who the hell is responsible and is there a way to  find them
[01:18] <nalioth> sorush20: it is freenode-wide (we are not priveldged in here)
[01:19] <guzu> yes
[01:19] <brownie17> Kemik: i am back. i got it
[01:19] <nalioth> sorush20: the global ops in #freenode and local ops on all affected channels are doing their best to ban the varmints
[01:19] <bimberi> frans-th: transfer /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb to the same location on the other computer (i burn a CD)
[01:19] <brownie17> Kemik: i am putting it in the paste bin now
[01:19] <nalioth> sorush20: but when you have a zombie fleet (thank you Bill), there are lots and lots of IPs to play with
[01:20] <nalioth> frans-th: make very sure you maintain the same permissions on the files when you move them
[01:20] <kemik> thenuke:  what do you mean "cant ping any localhosts" ?
[01:20] <kemik> thenuke:  try "ifconfig"
[01:20] <thenuke> kemik: I cant ping <IP_ADDRESS>.. for example.. or <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:20] <kemik> and see if you have your nics configured etc
[01:20] <thenuke> kemik: ifconfigs are ok
[01:20] <kemik> thenuke:  "ifconfig" and paste the output on pastebin
[01:20] <kemik> thenuke:  firewalls?
[01:21] <kemik> localhost should be ping-able
[01:21] <thenuke> hmmmm.. Firewall is possible.. if I have activated one when I have been drinking for example.. cant remember :D
[01:21] <Gnonthgol> Does anyone know why sources.list does not contain the files I got asked if I wanted to copy from the cd?
[01:21] <kemik> thenuke:  well... iptables --list
[01:21] <brownie17> Kemik: here is my paste bin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1682
[01:22] <kemik> Gnonthgol:  ? do you want to copy them form cd ?
[01:22] <nalioth> Gnonthgol: sorry, i didnt understand your question
[01:22] <sorush20> nalioth_wrkn: where you referring to Bill Gates
[01:22] <thenuke> kemik: iptables is empty.
[01:22] <kemik> Gnonthgol:  if you dont want to use the CD as a 'repository' remove the first line in your source.list (put a # infron of it )
[01:22] <thenuke> kemik: http://pastebin.com/348323
[01:22] <kemik> thenuke:  paste your ifconfig
[01:22] <kemik> aihgth
[01:23] <brownie17> Kemik: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1682
[01:23] <nalioth> sorush20: yes, may he rot somewhere
[01:23] <brownie17> Seveas: cna you help me?
[01:23] <Gnonthgol> In the installation I got asked if I wanted to copy all packages from the cd. I did but in sources.list the cd is there but not the files I copyed
[01:23] <sorush20> nalioth he has contributed to the computre world alot..
[01:24] <nalioth> sorush20: yes he has, both good and bad. zombie windows hordes are an example of the bad
[01:24] <kemik> brownie17:  i think you're only option is to borrow a windowscd and use the fixmbr tool
[01:24] <Adross> whoa, is this 'naughty time
[01:24] <Adross> ' on freenode or what?
[01:24] <kemik> thenuke:  ipv6 addy for your loopback doesnt sound good
[01:24] <brownie17> kemik: are you absalutly sure? i got told that would ruin my linux installation
[01:24] <Whistler> how do i use bin files?
[01:24] <brownie17> kemik: cna i just reinstall GRUB?
[01:25] <sorush20> nalioth zombie window hords.. hm.. I have to read on that.. but I'm sure he didn't program it or invent it..
[01:25] <Gnonthgol> Whistler: run them as a normal script
[01:25] <kemik> brownie17:  yes it will more or less ruin your grub-bootloader, but you can recover that afterwards
[01:25] <kemik> !grub
[01:25] <Adross> i have an old mac, uber old, either version 8 or below, tops. WIll the standard ppc version of ubuntu work?
[01:25] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:25] <Whistler> Gnonthgol sh filename ?
[01:25] <Adross> !grub
[01:25] <Adross> aww
[01:25] <thenuke> kemik: I have ipv4-6 tunneling
[01:25] <sorush20> is there a gui terminal..
[01:25] <Adross> !dashboard
[01:25] <ubotu> Adross: I give up, what is it?
[01:25] <Adross> !beagle
[01:25] <DJ_Mirage> what is mode +CE ?
[01:25] <ubotu> it has been said that beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto
[01:25] <Gnonthgol> Whistler: no, just like ./file.bin
[01:26] <kemik> thenuke:  do "ifconfig lo <IP_ADDRESS>"
[01:26] <bimberi> Adross: no, requires G3 or better iirc
[01:26] <Whistler> Gnonthgol k thx
[01:26] <Whistler> :)
[01:26] <Tadej`Certanc> how do I send email with command mail in console
[01:26] <Adross> bimberi: then is there a version of ubuntu linux i can put on it?
[01:26] <Tadej`Certanc> I need to send a test mail
[01:26] <frans-th> just a little question, why wiki in ubuntu.com, but there is another wiki also in ubuntulinux.org, 2 type of wiki in one place
[01:26] <thenuke> kemik: righto, works now ok. Learned a lesson here :) thanks
[01:26] <bimberi> Adross: i don't think so - but am not certain
[01:26] <Gnonthgol> Tadej`Certanc: send to root@localhost
[01:27] <Adross> hmm, damn
[01:27] <Jhair> TerminX, echo "test" | mail -s your_email "test"
[01:27] <Adross> when did they start putting the g3's in? Which version
[01:27] <frans-th> ubotu: you said ubuntuguide.org is not good, but how can canonical set 2 wiki for ubuntu.
[01:27] <ubotu> frans-th: what are you talking about?
[01:28] <frans-th> ubotu: you promoted to me  wiki.ubuntu.com, remember?
[01:28] <ubotu> frans-th: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:28] <TerminX> watch it with that nick autocompletion eh
[01:28] <frans-th> ubotu: what is packets of five?
[01:28] <ubotu> frans-th: what are you talking about?
[01:28] <sorush20> is there a gui terminal.. for example instead of doing a cd.../directory would it be possible to just select a dropdown menu form the terminal..
[01:28] <Gnonthgol> !ubotu
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