[15:57] <kriel> Walex2: I'm still newish to linux, I don't have all the syntax down. I come from a windoze background.
[15:58] <kriel> problem solved, so thanks for that, but i'd like to hear more if you have the time, or can point me towards a lightweight reference.
[15:58] <gvo> kriel many of the commands you use are in /usr/bin or /bin
[15:58] <Walex2> kriel: look for example at 'man xdg-mime' and at 'man 5 mailcap'
[15:59] <Walex2> kriel: fortunately for you GNU/Linux is become ever more similar in design to MS-Windows :-(.
[16:00] <kriel> from what i can tell, there're still core distinctions in the way the filesystem works. Yes, they're coming to a kind of convergence, but because of the way its rooted, things work differently.
[16:00] <kriel> I actually just moved back from win7 to (L)ubuntu, and I forgot how much I liked it. I'm getting reacquainted.
[16:01] <kriel> last i was here was.. whatever the LTS before 12.04 was.
[16:01] <kriel> cuz i got annoyed at unity on the ubuntu dist.
[16:01] <Walex2> kriel: actually as to "the way its rooted" NTFS works almost the same as GNU/Linux filesystems and things like volumes and drive letters in MS-Windows NT are actually MS-DOS emulations for backwards compatibility.
[16:02] <kriel> Walex2: i was referring to the way everything's split up into {/var, /dev, /etc, etc} and the concept of 'everything is a file or a folder'.
[16:04] <Walex2> kriel: GNU/Linux is becoming ever more MS-Windows like in those two ways :-(
[16:04] <Walex2> kriel: but fortunately rather slowly.
[16:05] <kriel> Walex2: ...really? =(
[16:05] <k1l> Walex2: kriel can you guys talk about that in #ubuntu-offtopic and stick to specific ubuntu support in here? thanks
[16:05] <kriel> k1l: sorry about that. Thanks for helping me with my problem.
[16:06] <k1l> kriel: if the program destination is in $PATH there is no need to give the fullpath.
[16:07] <gvo> If $PATH is defined
[16:07] <k1l> gvo: which is on a standard ubuntu :)
[16:08] <kriel> k1l: the (app)? I was using wanted the fullpath. dunno why. Walex2 pointed out 'which gedit' which gave me the path i needed. problem is solved :)
[16:11] <Tom1> hello
[16:12] <jnoob22> err hello Tom1
[16:14] <fartface> I'm getting messages that /boot is full (12.04.03 x64), and from what I've read I need to remove some of the older files in that directory.  The thread was from 2010 though, so is it safe to remove all files for each of the file sets (abi, config, initrd, memtest86, System.map, and vmlinuz) except for the two most recent in order to free up space?
[16:14] <fartface> Since the files listed in the thread would be out of date in comparison to the ones I have in my directory
[16:14] <Meerkat> you probably only need to remove old unused kernels. I have to do that as well every now and then.
[16:15] <fartface> The initrd.img files?
[16:16] <fartface> Ah, I should just move them to /home and then if I run into issues I can move them back rather than remove
[16:17] <zorael> Is there any way to access the previous version of a ppa package?
[16:17] <k1l> fartface: you can remove old kernels with their packages (linux-image-......) that will clean the /boot folder, too
[16:17] <fartface> Ah, that might be safer
[16:17] <jstew> Hi. I'm running ubuntu 13.10 on a mid-2012 macbook air. I updated os x, and now I can't boot. I'm booting with grub via EFI. Any ideas?
[16:18] <k1l> fartface: yep. and dont forget the linux-header-... packages to that kernels.
[16:18] <leeyaa> hello
[16:18] <leeyaa> how to stop network manager adding nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> to my resolv.conf ?
[16:18] <jstew> I already tried booting via install disk, chrooting, and running update-grub. That didn't work.
[16:19] <iptable> leeyaa, I opted for chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf ;) - immunizing file
[16:19] <leeyaa> iptable: i dont think i want to do this
[16:19] <leeyaa> any alternative ?
[16:20] <iptable> leeyaa, alternatively you may look into the configuration of dnsmasq - which is what actually does the change.
[16:20] <leeyaa> i might as well remove resolvconf package
[16:20] <iptable> leeyaa, and on top of that you can reconfigure the resolvconf package, adding appropriate header/footer lines
[16:20] <dryicebomb> jstew: maybe this will help, I had to do these steps on my pro http://www.billsdon.com/2011/12/install-linux-mint-12-lisa-13inch-macbook-air-4-2-2011-model/
[16:20] <BLZbubba> why does ubuntu desktop ignore sysctl.conf?
[16:20] <leeyaa> iptable: hm but i have no localhost line in resolvconf
[16:20] <fartface> k1l: Hmm, can't even use dpkg at the moment so I may have to manually remove
[16:21] <BLZbubba> the first thing I have to do to boot all my ubuntu desktops is run sysctl -p
[16:21] <iptable> leeyaa, but dnsmasq is what normally works with network-manager to change the resolv.conf and add <IP_ADDRESS>.
[16:21] <iptable> leeyaa, localhost line? I thought you said you have "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" in your resolv.conf?
[16:21] <leeyaa> iptable: thats localhost isnt it ;p
[16:22] <Walex2> BLZbubba: does it? Then it is one of the cases where the local sysadm is expected to do their thing with '/etc/rc.local' for example
[16:22] <jstew> dryicebomb: Yeah, that is for hybrid MBR. I'm booting straight from efi. Using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro11-1/Saucy
[16:22] <iptable> leeyaa, you said you had that line. now you say you don't have it.
[16:22] <jstew> was working great until the OS X update fucked it all up.
[16:22] <Tom1> my led monitors makes clicking sound.
[16:22] <leeyaa> iptable: i have it in resolv.conf after i restart networking for so me reason
[16:22] <junkanoo> is there a gnome shell irc?
[16:22] <iptable> leeyaa, alternatively install nm-tools and use nmcli to change network-manager config.
[16:23] <fartface> Nevermind I killed the rogue process and it's fine now
[16:23] <junkanoo> using ubuntu gnome and have a question about gnome 3.9 vs. 3.10
[16:23] <jstew> Ah, nm.... I think I know the problem after looking at that article again. Mac OS must have switched the boot order in EFI.
[16:24] <iptable> leeyaa, so, as I said, reconfigure dnsmasq, change network-manager config and/or modify resolvconf config
[16:24] <iptable> leeyaa, all 3 work together to provide the service
[16:25] <iptable> leeyaa, but you would be best off leaving the automatic adding of <IP_ADDRESS> alone and just reconfigure dnsmasq (which is the localhost service) to query the upstream nameserver of your choice.
[16:25] <leeyaa> iptable: i prefer if i dont install extra packages as i need to do it on few more boxes with legacy ubuntu. what could add nameserver to resolv.conf ?
[16:26] <leeyaa> if not resolvconf
[16:26] <n0x_42> I have a shared directory on a ubuntu machine that I am trying to share between OS X and Windows computers. I have my users in a group and the group has read & execute/read/write permissions. When I connect from my windows computers and try to create a file/directory in the shared directory I get an error saying I don't have permsssion.
[16:26] <iptable> leeyaa, the idea of putting <IP_ADDRESS> into resolv.conf and using dnsmasq as a configured forwarding nameserver is to try and run away from the limitations of resolv.conf.
[16:26] <iptable> leeyaa, do you have dnsmasq running on those? I'm not saying "add".
[16:26] <leeyaa> iptable: is that a service or something ?
[16:26] <iptable> oh boy
[16:26] <iptable> leeyaa, as root: netstat -anp |grep LISTEN |grep 53
[16:27] <iptable> leeyaa, check the PID, ps -ef |grep PID and check the name
[16:27] <kriel> i'd like to set up an ubuntu kiosk machine, where on startup it runs one program, and when that one program exits it shuts down. suggestions?
[16:27] <n0x_42> I also have samba users created and associated with the shared directory.
[16:27] <Meerkat> fartface, http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[16:27] <Meerkat> there is a guide you can use
[16:27] <iptable> leeyaa, typically you get network-manager+dnsmasq+resolvconf alltogether. In ubuntu certainly.
[16:27] <Meerkat> scroll down to 'synaptic' for the easiest method.
[16:28] <leeyaa> iptable: well there is bind on this box yes, it is my local dns server
[16:28] <Meerkat> Bookmark the page for the future. You will need to do this again in a year or so.
[16:28] <iptable> leeyaa, ok, so you got bind instead of dnsmasq. so what is wrong with querying your local bind?
[16:28] <Walex2> Tom1: that clicking sound issue is probably more a topic for #hardware
[16:29] <iptable> leeyaa, I'm guessing you use DHCP(?), otherwise you would not have this problem.
[16:29] <Walex2> Tom1: but it may simply be the power supply/converter inside the screen
[16:29] <leeyaa> iptable: actually nothing. i just want to make it identical to others (same config, same ubuntu, different behaviour)
[16:29] <leeyaa> no static ips
[16:29] <kriel> got it. nvm.
[16:29] <Walex2> n0x_42: that is a difficult topic. The big question is: how do the server and the client agree on user names?
[16:30] <iptable> leeyaa, so when you put static DNS configuration in the GUI network manager, what happens?
[16:30] <leeyaa> iptable: there is no gui
[16:30] <n0x_42> Well, from the windows side, when I connect to the client I just enter in the user info of the user that was created on the ubuntu computer.
[16:30] <leeyaa> here, on same ubuntu, different server, no 127 entry in resolv.conf http://bpaste.net/show/sM72LJdJHDY3ezEuvGfe/
[16:31] <iptable> leeyaa, uhm. what version of ubuntu we talking about anyways?
[16:31] <n0x_42> I wouldn't actually need to create the same users on the client would I?
[16:31] <leeyaa> iptable: 6
[16:31] <iptable> leeyaa, 6 what?
[16:31] <iptable> leeyaa, there is no such thing as version 6 of ubuntu
[16:31] <Cpt_Gyle> hi
[16:31] <leeyaa> oh wait, its precise
[16:31] <leeyaa> Codename:	precise
[16:32] <leeyaa> 12.04 LTS
[16:32] <leeyaa> but i bot some hardy servers too
[16:32] <leeyaa> same config
[16:32] <iptable> leeyaa, so why did you say "legacy ubuntu"?
[16:32] <n0x_42> For example, let's say I have tom and mark as users in the group shared. Those users are on ubuntu. When I connect to the shared directory from Windows I connect as user tom. The group shared has read/write/execute permissions on the shared directory. Since tom is a part of that group, he should have the same permissions correct?
[16:33] <leeyaa> leeyaa: i thought that server is hardy or what do you call it the one before, drapper or something like that. but it is another server
[16:33] <leeyaa> anyway how to stop it adding nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:33] <iptable> leeyaa, I really need to know the version to tell you. different version, different way
[16:34] <leeyaa> iptable: http://bpaste.net/show/inD4rbnhRSmJbUZFrGjT/
[16:34] <leeyaa> this is my working server
[16:34] <leeyaa> and this is the one that keeps messing with my resolv.conf
[16:34] <leeyaa> http://bpaste.net/show/S9VqJfaHqqdNx5RrSgsC/
[16:34] <iptable> leeyaa, you do realise that it is no longer supported, right? for many years as well.
[16:35] <A1Recon> I disabled the UEFI before installing Win 7 64bit on my Laptop. Now when I want to install Ubuntu 13.10 with UEFi disabled, the BIOS does not detect USB device. Why is this happening?
[16:35] <leeyaa> iptable: yes, the one that i need to fix is 12.04 LTS
[16:35] <iptable> leeyaa, uhm, so why you telling me about the other one?
[16:35] <leeyaa> iptable: i was thinking im on another server, confused both of us, just forget it
[16:36] <leeyaa> how to fix it on 12.04
[16:36] <leeyaa> yes i could just chattr it but it is stupid
[16:36] <iptable> leeyaa, nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> is NOT considered broken. What is the actual issue you are seeing with that as nameserver? this is by design.
[16:36] <iptable> leeyaa, what is stupid is trying to change the design
[16:36] <leeyaa> iptable: to make it identical with others
[16:36] <leeyaa> you are sure it is by design ?
[16:37] <leeyaa> what about for older versions ?
[16:37] <iptable> leeyaa, yes. you cannot make an OS from 2012 be the same as one from 2008. That's 4 years. In a windows world it would be like trying to make windows 2003 server the same as windows 2000 server.
[16:38] <leeyaa> iptable: i understand. im just used to make everything identical to avoid problems.
[16:39] <iptable> leeyaa, in 2008 the design was different and we normally put the nameservers in resolv.conf. in 2012, we put it differently. preferable for network-manager setups is to have <IP_ADDRESS> in resolv.conf and make a local dns server listen on <IP_ADDRESS> and forward requests to the configured name server in it.
[16:39] <leeyaa> btw the issue is resolves hosts outside my local dns zone very slow.
[16:39] <iptable> leeyaa, making everything identical WILL cause problems.
[16:40] <leeyaa>  but i guess i should look into my bind config
[16:40] <iptable> leeyaa, yes, it's the bind config that is at fault.
[16:40] <iptable> leeyaa, use forwarders in bind config to forward to the DNS servers you want to
[16:40] <leeyaa> thanks iptable
[16:40] <iptable> leeyaa, why are you using network-manager anyways?
[16:40] <usr13> iptable: leeyaa If you remove the network-manager package, you can go back to the old way of doing things.
[16:40] <leeyaa> iptable: no idea, i inherited this insane setup
[16:41] <iptable> leeyaa, is the server connected via wifi?
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> iptable: any address in <IP_ADDRESS>/8 is localhost
[16:41] <leeyaa> im coming from centos world
[16:41] <dmarr> i changed the sources list to saucy now apt-get install shows a bunch of packages to be removed which i know is not right (it tries to remove apt). also lsb_release shows 14.04, i switched things back to saucy to try to downgrade and i think i've royally screwed things up
[16:41] <leeyaa> iptable: no, vm cluster
[16:41] <iptable> leeyaa, I don't see a reason to have network-manager on a static server, but it could just be me
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> iptable: you can pig <IP_ADDRESS>   and it will reply
[16:41] <iptable> ActionParsnip, I know. I learnt it on CCNA, thanks.
[16:41] <dmarr> err, i tried upgrading to trusty by manually changing
[16:41] <usr13> iptable: I agree.
[16:41] <leeyaa> iptable: i totally agree, i was planning to remove it, but wasnt sure if it is the reiht way for ubuntu
[16:41] <leeyaa> right*
[16:42] <iptable> leeyaa, when you install ubuntu server, you get it WITHOUT network manager, which is the right way for ubuntu
[16:42] <iptable> leeyaa, someone installed it there.
[16:42] <leeyaa> i see
[16:42] <leeyaa> great, so i will just remove resolvconf package
[16:42] <leeyaa> and be done with it
[16:43] <xangua> dmarr: If you want to go back to saucy, backup and reinstall
[16:43] <leeyaa> thank you iptable
[16:43] <iptable> leeyaa, and network-manager. then reconfigure all your interfaces using /etc/network/interfaces
[16:43] <iptable> leeyaa, no problem. make sure you got iLO or physical access or such like to the server first.
[16:43] <iptable> usr13, why thank you :)
[16:44] <leeyaa> iptable: i do, i have vmware kvm and xen as hosts
[16:44] <usr13> leeyaa: If you sudo apt-get remove network-manager you'll want to edit /etc/network/interfaces   for IP configuration, (and use /etc/resolv.conf for nameserver IP).
[16:44] <iptable> ActionParsnip, sorry, when I pig <IP_ADDRESS> it does not reply. PING on the other hand works, but still no replies ;) now go figure :P
[16:44] <leeyaa> user1: thats the way i am used to usr13
[16:44] <iptable> ActionParsnip, it';s a game btw. I do know the answer :D
[16:45] <usr13> ActionParsnip: How about just ping <IP_ADDRESS>  ?
[16:45] <iptable> leeyaa, and that's the preferred way on ubuntu server. someone just configured it different for one reason or another.
[16:46] <leeyaa> iptable: well it is weird, this setup is like 10y old now. someone didnt know what they were doing i guess
[16:46] <leeyaa> and now i have to fix their mess
[16:46] <iptable> usr13, that's not enough digits for some :P On another note, the security-sick admins will block addresses other than <IP_ADDRESS> unless otherwise needed for some obscure reasons I am dimly aware of :D
[16:46] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Actually, they both work for me.  ping  <IP_ADDRESS>   #Also pings..
[16:47] <leeyaa> iptable: i got outgoing icmp requests blocked in one of my dcs :D
[16:47] <iptable> leeyaa, don't want to be a pain in the ***, but ubuntu 8.04 is from 2008, which is 6 years old, not 10 :P
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> usr13: its yin the same subnet, it will all work
[16:47] <leeyaa> iptable: i told you i have ubuntu 6 too whatever the version is ;p dont know what they were using before that but setup is about 10y old now
[16:47] <iptable> ActionParsnip, nope. as just stated, it might not as some security-panicy admins do iptables rules to block IPs other than <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:48] <leeyaa> iptable: Description:	Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[16:48] <leeyaa> :D
[16:48] <compdoc> old old
[16:48] <leeyaa> insane
[16:48] <iptable> leeyaa, 6.06 is STILL not 10yo. That's 8, but close :D
[16:48] <jorn_> Anyone know of a workaround of missing ia32-libs in 14.04.. Aftershot Pro requires the package...
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> iptable: depends on firewalls but the default setup will ping as any ip in the range will reply from the same pc
[16:48] <iptable> jorn_, yes, install ia32-libs
[16:48] <leeyaa> iptable: really un responsible admins out there
[16:49] <iptable> leeyaa, yes.
[16:49] <jorn_> iptable : it's depricated in 14.04 :/
[16:49] <sbol> hi, quick question: where can I find the config file for nautilus? I'm trying to change it so that the bookmarks sidebar doesn't appear in the Open File dialog (used by browsers, for example)
[16:49] <iptable> ActionParsnip, "default setup" with ubuntu server with network-manager installed is a big assumption on your side
[16:50] <sudormrf> hey guys, if I modify rc.local do I need to "update" anything to ensure that whatever I added to rc.local will actually happen at startup?
[16:50] <Rory> nope sudormrf
[16:50] <genii> sudormrf: No
[16:50] <sudormrf> sweet :)
[16:50] <iptable> jorn_, ia32-libs is just a meta-package to pull loads of 32bit packages
[16:51] <jorn_> iptable : I've tried to install the suggested packages : lib32z1 , lib32ncurses5 and lib32bz2-1.0, but it does not work..
[16:51] <iptable> jorn_, run ldd /your/binary to find out what is needed and install only those 32bit libs (like libname:i386)
[16:51] <genii> ia32-libs was replaced with multiarch
[16:51] <jorn_> iptable : I know, but it does not exist in 14.04s pool
[16:51] <somsip_> jorn_: you're better off asking in #ubuntu+1 which is support for 14.04
[16:51] <iptable> jorn_, what, 32bit packages, they do
[16:51] <jorn_> somsip : I've tried.. not a very active channel :p
[16:52] <somsip_> jorn_: it's the right place to get support for 14.04. Here is just for released versions
[16:52] <iptable> jorn_, e.g. aptitude search firefox returns firefox:i386 and firefox. that's on 14.04 I am on.
[16:52] <iptable> jorn_, just install the lib:i386 that you need to fulfil the packages
[16:54] <jorn_> iptable : will try. thanks and sorry for asking questions in the wrong channel :)
[16:55] <iptable> ActionParsnip, I know. <IP_ADDRESS>/8 actually terminates on loopback (lo) interface unless otherwise stated ;)
[16:55] <sbol> what is the proper etiquette for asking a question here?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> iptable: exactly
[16:55] <leeyaa> iptable: so ubuntu server comes without nm and resolvconf packages by default? even new versions ?
[16:55] <sbol> No one answered the first time and I don't want to repeat-spam
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> iptable: so you can make localhost any IP you like in that subnet :)
[16:56] <iptable> ActionParsnip, I know. I was just refering to user stating they got nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> in resolv.conf and then saying they don't have localhost... which didn't make sense.
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> sbol: if you edit the mime type in /usr/share/application you may be able to get rid but you may find it affects other apps
[16:56] <iptable> leeyaa, yes. server != desktop
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> iptable: ahhh makes sense now :)
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> leeyaa: you will get the network manager service, just no GUI clicky app
[16:57] <iptable> ActionParsnip, on what? ubuntu 14.04 server and 12.04 server don't come with network-manager preinstalled
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> leeyaa: there is wicd which will give a nice ncurses UI with wicd-curses, you can then remove network manager
[16:58] <sbol> ActionParsnip: Thank you!
[16:58] <leeyaa> ActionParsnip: i dont want any gui or extra packages
[16:58] <leeyaa> i dont need them
[16:58] <leeyaa> besides they just complicate tasks that people are used to
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> leeyaa: then install wicd curses and start wicd, you can then use wicd-curses
[16:59] <leeyaa> i just said i dont need extra packages ;p
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> leeyaa: http://atastypixel.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Screen-Shot-2011-09-24-at-14.37.111.png
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> leeyaa: then use /etc/network/interfaces
[16:59] <leeyaa> exactly what i plan to do
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> leeyaa: if you add lines to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head   you can specify DNS servers
[17:00] <leeyaa> ActionParsnip: i know.
[17:01] <LMGN> I Have ubuntu 12.04.4 64-Bit in a VMware Workstation VM using Easy Install and it keeps Saying Internal Error
[17:01] <leeyaa> ActionParsnip: wait, so server does come with network manager installed (the console version)
[17:01] <LMGN> lol
[17:01] <LMGN> That wasn'tygj
[17:01] <leeyaa> or i am wrong
[17:01] <LMGN> That wasn'
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> leeyaa: i'd check the packages at package.ubuntu.com
[17:02] <LMGN> That wasn' t me it was my frend
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> got a server down :(
[17:02] <LMGN> I Have ubuntu 12.04.4 64-Bit in a VMware Workstation VM using Easy Install and it keeps Saying Internal Error
[17:02] <iptable> leeyaa, no, when you install ubuntu-server, it comes without network-manager nor any tools. you configure it using /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf
[17:02] <iptable> leeyaa, you *can* install network manager if you are inclined that way
[17:02] <LMGN> I will try VirtualBox
[17:03] <LMGN> I Have ubuntu 12.04.4 64-Bit in a VMware Workstation VM using Easy Install and it keeps Saying Internal Error
[17:03] <iptable> LMGN, yes, VirtualBox would be the choice. Alternatively, if host is ubuntu, isntall qemu-kvm and VirtManager (that's the GUI), for the more native linux virtualization.
[17:04] <LMGN> Ok im just creating it in VirtualBox now :D
[17:05] <leeyaa> iptable: thats what i wanted to know if you get it by default or you HAVE to install it if you want it
[17:05] <leeyaa> thanks
[17:06] <LMGN> It says This needs a kernel Thing let me try the VirtualBox settings ;)
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> LMGN  try the 32 bit version
[17:07] <LMGN> Ok
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> LMGN  i mean: the 32 bit iso
[17:08] <LMGN> Yes thats what i am doing, Good job i have fiber internet!
[17:08] <nikLongStone> I am using scalper to recover some files, it's possible to specify the directory (not searching entire /dev/sda1) ?
[17:09] <OerHeks> !info scalper
[17:09] <OerHeks> nikLongStone, where do you get salper?
[17:09] <OerHeks> or scalper
[17:10] <bazhang> scalpel
[17:10] <nikLongStone> OerHeks is scalper
[17:10] <LMGN> I have downloaded the x86 ver and i get this VirtualBox error when i insert the disk
[17:10] <LMGN> Result Code:
[17:10] <LMGN> E_FAIL (0x80004005)
[17:10] <LMGN> Component:
[17:10] <LMGN> Medium
[17:10] <LMGN> Interface:
[17:10] <LMGN> IMedium {05f2bbb6-a3a6-4fb9-9b49-6d0dda7142ac}
[17:10] <LMGN> Callee:
[17:10] <LMGN> IVirtualBox {fafa4e17-1ee2-4905-a10e-fe7c18bf5554}
[17:10] <LMGN> Callee RC:
[17:10] <LMGN> VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80BB0001)
[17:10] <OerHeks> nikLongStone, no it is scalpel
[17:10] <OerHeks> !info scalpel
[17:10] <nikLongStone> scalpel sorry
[17:11] <nikLongStone> I read the guide but nothing about that
[17:11] <trijntje> nikLongStone:  deleted files are no longer in folders, so you have to search the entire partition
[17:11] <LMGN> I have downloaded the x86 ver and i get this VirtualBox error when i insert the disk
[17:11] <LMGN> Result Code:
[17:11] <LMGN> E_FAIL (0x80004005)
[17:11] <LMGN> Component:
[17:11] <LMGN> Medium
[17:11] <LMGN> Interface:
[17:11] <LMGN> IMedium {05f2bbb6-a3a6-4fb9-9b49-6d0dda7142ac}
[17:11] <LMGN> Callee:
[17:11] <LMGN> IVirtualBox {fafa4e17-1ee2-4905-a10e-fe7c18bf5554}
[17:11] <LMGN> Callee RC:
[17:11] <LMGN> VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80BB0001)
[17:11] <nikLongStone> trijntje ok, I understand
[17:11] <nikLongStone> thanks ù
[17:12] <bipul> Can we create a network on VIRTUALBOOX (Network Given Option) WHERE Machine A with start a TCP connection with Machine B via machine C.
[17:12] <nikLongStone> trijntje I thought that Ubuntu is like other systems, sometimes the files are simply flagged as removed so are in same position
[17:12] <LMGN> I have downloaded the x86 ver and i get this VirtualBox error when i insert the disk
[17:12] <LMGN> Result Code:
[17:12] <LMGN> E_FAIL (0x80004005)
[17:12] <LMGN> Component:
[17:12] <LMGN> Medium
[17:12] <LMGN> Interface:
[17:12] <LMGN> IMedium {05f2bbb6-a3a6-4fb9-9b49-6d0dda7142ac}
[17:12] <LMGN> Callee:
[17:12] <LMGN> IVirtualBox {fafa4e17-1ee2-4905-a10e-fe7c18bf5554}
[17:12] <LMGN> Callee RC:
[17:12] <LMGN> VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80BB0001)
[17:12] <OerHeks> LMGN, please use paste.ubuntu.com
[17:13] <LMGN> Oh ok.
[17:13] <trijntje> nikLongStone: that is the case. However, folders don't correspond to locations on the harddisk. So not all files in a folder are together on the disk
[17:14] <dmarr> it looks like im going to have to reinstlal
[17:14] <Steve^> After some recent automatic updates in 12.04.4, my volume up and down media keys no longer affect the computer volume. If I rebind them to play/pause in the keyboard settings, they work fine. But they won't change the volume - any ideas?
[17:14] <dmarr> so if i have configs for things like znc how do i carry those over?
[17:14] <LMGN> I have downloaded the x86 ver and i get this VirtualBox error when i insert the disk http://paste.ubuntu.com/7068742/
[17:14] <Steve^> * to be clear, they work fine in play/pausing the music, not in changing volume
[17:15] <bipul> Can we create a network on VIRTUALBOOX (Network Given Option) WHERE Machine A with start a TCP connection with Machine B via machine C.
[17:15] <LMGN> I have downloaded the x86 ver and i get this VirtualBox error when i insert the disk http://paste.ubuntu.com/7068742/
[17:16] <Rory> dmarr: Most user-specific config files are hidden in your home directory. (hidden files begin with a .) press ctrl-h in file manager to show them
[17:16] <Rory> dmarr: back up the ~/.znc directory
[17:17] <LMGN> I have fixed that by going in to the IDE settings!
[17:18] <n0x_42> I have a shared folder but when a user creates a file that file is set to read-only for the group. How can I get created files to have read/write for the group?
[17:21] <LMGN> I am done with this IRC Goodbye!
[17:21] <iptable> n0x_42, like, any use who creates file should be created with RW for user and group and no matter how they create the file?
[17:22] <n0x_42> Yeah that's correct iptable
[17:22] <iptable> n0x_42, http://www.linuxnix.com/2011/12/umask-define-linuxunix.html
[17:23] <iptable> n0x_42, if it's about permissions for users accessing a share and putting files on a share, it would be umask on SMB/CIFS share you are looking for
[17:24] <bluefrog> setgid http://terokarvinen.com/2011/shared-folder-with-chmod-setgid
[17:26] <kriel> is it better practice to paste a multiline script in /etc/rc.local or to have it run a seperate .sh ?
[17:26] <Walex2> kriel: it depends a lot on your style of writing scripts.
[17:27] <kriel> Walex2: my script style sucks. =/ i'd actually like to learn the 'right' way (if there is one). i also need to learn how version control works .quiet laugh.
[17:27] <Walex2> kriel: one of my 'rc.local' scripts is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7068799/
[17:28] <kriel> Walex2: mind a PM?
[17:29] <bogey> there is some bug in screen lock
[17:29] <bogey> in 14.04
[17:29] <bogey> keyboard does not focus and the password goes to last underlaying window
[17:30] <bogey> so happily it was irssi for me
[17:30] <bogey> so wrote my password on the chan
[17:30] <n0x_42> Thanks iptable. I used setfacl -d -m u::rwx,g::rwx,o::r-x shared/directory
[17:30] <n0x_42> Is that not the ideal way to accomplish what I need?
[17:31] <A1Recon> I disabled the UEFI before installing Win 7 64bit on my Laptop. Now when I want to install Ubuntu 13.10 with UEFi disabled, the BIOS does not detect USB device. Why is this happening?
[17:32] <bogey> usbstick?
[17:33] <bogey> for me only couple usbs are working for booting
[17:33] <CaptainTacoSauce> A1Recon: what's the hardware system you're running? HP Laptop by chance?
[17:34] <iptable> n0x_42, well, does it work?
[17:34] <n0x_42> No
[17:34] <iptable> n0x_42, then it's not ideal
[17:35] <n0x_42> Apparently not.
[17:35] <bluefrog> acl works perfectly but you must configure it correctly
[17:35] <A1Recon> CaptainTacoSauce: ASUS KV55M-SX086D with American Megatrends Aptio BIOS
[17:35] <raj__> After installing tomcat7.. I tried to switch to tomcat user on ubuntu like this: " $ sudo su tomcat7" but  it does actually switch me, any idea why ?
[17:35] <n0x_42> Thanks bluefrog. I thought acl might be the best option but I wasn't sure if I was using it correctly.
[17:36] <n0x_42> I'll keep looking into it.
[17:36] <bluefrog> n0x_42, have you enabled acl for your system?
[17:36] <n0x_42> Yeah, I have.
[17:36] <raj__> some folders have permissions for tomcat7 user but I cannot switch..
[17:36] <CaptainTacoSauce> A1Recon: Ah okay, not sure then. Have you tried turning UEFI on to see if it recognizes the USB drive? The iso you copied on there likely has a UEFI boot partition. Also does the USB stick boot other hardware?
[17:37] <n0x_42> I added it to /etc/fstab
[17:37] <n0x_42> Is that correct?
[17:37] <bluefrog> n0x_42, yes then you must remount the partition
[17:37] <bluefrog> to activate it
[17:37] <n0x_42> Yeah, I did that too.
[17:38] <bluefrog> setfacl -m d:g:users:w /path/to/folder
[17:40] <bluefrog> all new files in the folder would be "write" for the group "users"
[17:41] <A1Recon> CaptainTacoSauce: Yeah that's the thing... When I turn UEFI on it recognizes the USB otherwise it does not. And yes the USB has a folder called EFI in it. Is there a way to use the legacy booting for Ubuntu?
[17:43] <bluefrog> n0x_42, you will have to include all your users in such a group of course as by default they are only members of their own group (and some others but not "users")
[17:44] <n0x_42> I actually think that worked perfectly bluefrog, thanks!
[17:46] <mikemonk> hello guys
[17:48] <motaka2> where can I find resolv.conf in my ubuntu 12.04?
[17:48] <gamerboy> hey
[17:48] <OerHeks> 'locate resolv.conf' says /etc/
[17:52] <mikemonk> so... ok here is my problem... I installed vmware workstation, however when trying to run it I cant... I get the following message: Unable to start services. See log file /tmp/vmware-root/vmware-modconfig-5534.log for details.
[17:52] <mikemonk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7068936/
[17:52] <mikemonk> theres the log
[17:54] <n0x_42> actually something is jacked up. If I create a file while connected to the shared drive and then check that file's permission on ubuntu it shows the group has read and write permissions. If another user connected to the shared directory tries to edit that file it won't save and says the file is read only.
[17:54] <basketball> where is actionparsnip
[17:54] <n0x_42> If I check the permission on the client computer it also shows the group has read/write permissions.
[17:55] <mikemonk> anybody?
[17:56] <skinux> How often should Ubuntu be downloading/installing updates? Daily?
[17:57] <mikemonk> sorry, this is the complete log file...
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> skinux: as often as there is an update for whatever packages you have installed
[17:57] <mikemonk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7068978/
[17:57] <usr13> skinux: Pretty much.... (there is no set schedule, they come when they come, but it happens pretty often).
[17:57] <mikemonk> it has to do with the kernel, and not being able to build something
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> Mike9863: #ubuntu+1 for trusty support
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> mikemonk: ^ even
[18:03] <dryicebomb> mikemonk: have you installed the kernel headers?
[18:04] <mikemonk> dryicebomb: let me verify
[18:05] <dryicebomb> mikemonk: it looks like its failing on the make command, you may have to "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[18:07] <basketball> how do i set up numlockx
[18:07] <salt_> hi, im having trouble installing a new version of node on my machine.  if i do 'which node' i get 'usr/local/bin/node' and i have a new version installed at 'usr/lib/nodejs'
[18:07] <salt_> whats the command to resolve this
[18:07] <basketball> whoops sorry meant to type in #ubuntu+1
[18:07] <salt_> export PATH=${PATH%$OLD_NODE_PATH/bin*}$NEW_NODE_PATH/bin${PATH#$*OLD_NODE_PATH/bin} i found this, but im not sure how it should look in my case
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> salt_: you can softlink /usr/local/bin/node to /usr/lib/nodejs
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> salt_: or vice versa i should say
[18:09] <salt_> sweet thank you very much!
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> salt_: you may also want to ensure npm is pointing to the correct version too
[18:11] <salt_> hmmm which node still comes back with the same location
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> salt_: yes. if you soft link it. its still the link that will get returned, but that link will be pointing to the new version
[18:13] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys everytime I turn on my laptop I get a blackscreen i have to restart my laptop 3 or 4 times in order to boot into my GUI properly...what Can i do to fix this, I am assuming it is a graphic problem
[18:13] <SmashStack> ran anyone tell me what the best method for setting the TTY font on startup is? This is on 12.04
[18:13] <SmashStack> can*
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you got logs from those boots (Xorg.0.log + dmesg world be good)
[18:14] <z3r0c007> hello
[18:15] <z3r0c007> help pls
[18:15] <souusek> hello
[18:15] <daftykins> ask a question
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> !details | z3r0c007
[18:15]  * daftykins waves to hitsujiTMO o/
[18:15] <salt_> ahh i think i messed it all up, i realized i was trying to like a file to a folder, then i tried again and i got'ln: failed to create symbolic link `/usr/local/bin/node': File exists'
[18:15] <z3r0c007> ii have a problem in ubuntu 12.04
[18:15] <souusek> list
[18:15]  * hitsujiTMO waves back at daftykins o/   yo
[18:15] <daftykins> z3r0c007: can you type it on one line please
[18:15] <souusek> LIST
[18:15] <z3r0c007> ok
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> !list > souusek
[18:16] <z3r0c007> i updated my ubuntu 12.04 but my other application is not working
[18:16] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: taking a look there now
[18:17] <Jordan_U> z3r0c007: You're going to need to give a *lot* more detail than that.
[18:18] <z3r0c007> ok
[18:18] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: this keeps happening to me though constantly, I am wondering if there is a fix? Would the logs specifically tell me what is going wrong? I think it is a lazy graphic driver, I belive you helped me in the past.
[18:18] <Psil0Cybin> but this continues to persist, no matter what I upgrade or do
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: what gpu + cpu do you have?
[18:19] <z3r0c007> wait i going to debug my ubuntu first
[18:19] <n0x_42> bluefrog do you know why files in the shared directory won't save when the group has read/write permission?
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: the logs when it fails might point to what exactly is failing. Somethings with what you describe it could be even that something is loading "too fast"
[18:21] <jeffrey_f> I have an html file (aka, text file) in which there are links to mp3's.  I want to find certain mp3's denoted with specific text in the link and download them.  Ideas?
[18:23] <miraiE> everyone, where can I ask about bash script?
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> jeffrey_f: thats not an ubuntu support question. you need to write a web crawler for that. prob #python could help
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> miraiE: #bash
[18:23] <domenico> ciao a tutti
[18:23] <miraiE> thanks hitsujiTMO
[18:24] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: thank you so much I will look into it shortly,
[18:24] <jeffrey_f> hitsujiTMO: I downloaded the html already with curl.  just looking for script to find the text, which is enclosed in "
[18:26] <hitsujiTMO> jeffrey_f: yes, you need to parse the html with a web crawler. you could use bash to grep for urls and wget them, or for more control i'd use python
[18:26] <miraiE> jeffrey_f have you tried hxextract from html-xml-utils?
[18:26] <jeffrey_f> hitsujiTMO: Thanks.  Will look into that
[18:29] <Hecter> hi, im trying to send mail using smtp.google.com, does it need any installation/confgurations?
[18:30] <mikemonk> dryicebomb: already have those packages installed
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> Hecter: what exactly are you try to send mail from?
[18:32] <Hecter> hitsujiTMO: im using zendframework2 (Zend\Mail\Protocol)
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> Hecter: zend has a mail smtp transport for such: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5700470/sending-email-via-smtp-on-zend-framework
[18:35] <jeffrey_f> hitsujiTMO: Thanks, going the right direction now
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | jeffrey_f
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> Hecter: I'd also recommend checking out mailgun as an alternative. rather handy if you end up hitting the 500 mail cap with gmail
[18:37] <Hecter> noted
[18:37] <Hecter> 5.7.8 Username and Password not accepted. Learn more at ..... this is what i get as error response, so weird because im using git to upload this to an ubuntu server
[18:37] <Hecter> and locally its working :/
[18:38] <dryicebomb> mikemonk: was vmware already installed, and you upgraded your kernel, or you are trying to install it for the first time now?
[18:38] <mikemonk> first time
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> Hecter: the IP could be an issue if its blacklisted
[18:40] <Ari-Yang> what kernel does latest 12.04 LTS use?
[18:40] <Hecter> hitsujiTMO: ok ill ask digitalocean, its a new created droplet, i do not know how to check if its blacklisted by google
[18:41] <Ari-Yang> 12.04.4
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> Ari-Yang: 3.11
[18:41] <Ari-Yang> ah, nice
[18:41] <dryicebomb> mikemonk: It looks like you are on Ubuntu 14.04, I'm suspecting Vmware Player isn't quite ready for that kernel, https://communities.vmware.com/message/2335957
[18:41] <superbob__> I'm trying to get a command to run on startup, and I'm putting it into rc.local, but it doesn't seem to be running on startup.  If I execute rc.local, though, I see that the command does in fact work.  Am I doing something wrong?
[18:42] <dryicebomb> superbob__:  you could use crontab to run your command. type "crontab -e" as the user you want the script to run as, then at the bottom type @reboot /path/to/script.sh
[18:43] <hitsujiTMO> superbob__: rc.local runs with -e meaning it will exit on non 0 return. maybe something else in rc.local is returning non 0 before that command?
[18:44] <SmashStack> superbob__: I actually have a similar issue. However, the commands I have in rc.local run just fine, but their changes get reset
[18:44] <Midion_> Ok so decided to go with ubuntu for my vps over windows. I have logged in via ssh using securecrt. I run sudo apt-get install xrdp.
[18:45] <Midion_> I get unable to locate package xrdp.....
[18:45] <SmashStack> superbob__: add ">> /var/log/rc.local.log 2>&1" to the end of the command (maybe run the command with verbosity turned on) and then reboot. then check the log file for the command's output
[18:46] <dryicebomb> Midion_: try doing sudo apt-get update first
[18:46] <superbob___> dryicebomb: what if I want it to run as root?
[18:46] <Midion_> oh ty thats doing something.
[18:46] <usr13> !info xrdp | Midion_
[18:46] <dryicebomb> superbob___: then type sudo crontab -e that will edit roots crontab
[18:46] <genii> Midion_: May need "universe" repository enabled
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> Midion_: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list if running "sudo apt-get update" doesn't help
[18:47] <usr13> !uverse | Midion_
[18:47] <usr13> !universe | Midion_
[18:48] <bluefrog> n0x_42, i don't understand your problem about files
[18:48] <superbob___> dryicebomb: doesn't seem to execute the command :(
[18:49] <superbob___> I can execute the script just fine, it's just not doing it on startup
[18:49] <Midion_> running sudo apt-get update did it. xrdp is installing now. ty
[18:51] <dryicebomb> superbob___: is it a single command that you are running, or script that you have written? did you chmod +x the script to make it executable, and include the #!/bin/bash at the top of the script (assuming its written in BASH)
[18:51] <dryicebomb> Midion_: glad to hear it
[18:52] <geirha> superbob___: Is it a graphical application you're trying to run?
[18:53] <usr13> superbob___: Should your script be run as user, or root?
[18:54] <superbob___> it should be run as root
[18:54] <superbob___> it's a java command to run a .jar
[18:54] <usr13> superbob___: sudo crontab -e  #And edit is dryicebomb said.
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> superbob___: have you given the full path to the java bin?
[18:55] <usr13> superbob___: @reboot /pat/to/script
[18:55] <hitsujiTMO> superbob___: rc.local will be run without a $PATH so you would have to specify the full path to the jave bin
[18:56] <superbob___> k... I'll try that
[18:56] <usr13> superbob___: You can do it by placing the script in /etc/rc.local as well, but make sure the executible script is enabled on /etc/rc.local as well as the script you want to run.
[18:56] <_amin_> hello, on my laptop keyboard I have no keys between "shift" and "W" (my keyboard is azerty), how to write ">" or "<" please ?
[18:57] <superbob___> gotcha
[18:59] <SmashStack> while we're on the topic of rc.local, maybe I can get some info on my issue. In the rc.local of my headless install (12.04), I have a setfont command and a setterm command (to set the font and color). I can confirm that they are getting executed (output logged to a file), but they appear to have no effect. Anybody know what's going on?
[19:00] <howudodat> am having a very unusual problem.  installed ubuntu server, two nics: em1 wired ethernet, default route.  wlan0 wireless.  em1 is responding with its MAC for arp requests for wlan0.  I have no bridge configed, nor proxy arp as far as I can tell.  em1=<IP_ADDRESS>/24 and wlan0=<IP_ADDRESS>/24
[19:02] <hitsujiTMO> SmashStack: you're cannling them before the xserver is up
[19:02] <usr13> howudodat: How did your ethernet NIC come to be named em1 ?
[19:02] <hitsujiTMO> calling*
[19:02] <usr13> howudodat: Was it originally eth0?
[19:02] <SmashStack> hitsujiTMO: xserver isn't being started
[19:03] <SmashStack> it boots to TTY
[19:03] <howudodat> it was always em1 - I found this odd too, was epecting it to be eth0
[19:04] <howudodat> usr13: I can post my interface config if that would help
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> SmashStack: ahh sorry, misread what you were asking. immediately say font and color and thought xserver. You're calling them in a non interactive user which will not effect your user. try adding them to ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc instead
[19:04] <usr13> howudodat: Yes, do that;  pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces
[19:05] <usr13> howudodat: ifconfig |pastebinit  #Show us that one too.
[19:05] <jazzme> hello, urgent help!!! When I play an mp3 from a URL the song stops playing about 10 seconds into the song.  I can see that the progress is slower then the playing.  When I try to wget the mp3 file the download stops around 38%....This happens consistently on this PC...no problems with that URL on other PCs.
[19:06] <usr13> jazzme: Is this from one particular site?  Or...?
[19:06] <jazzme> any site
[19:06] <llutz> howudodat: that thing is called "consistent network device names", emX are on-board-devices, pXX PCI etc. i just didn't know that ubuntu-server uses this
[19:07] <jazzme> I just now started playing mp3 from a URL, so I have not noticed any other problems like with youtube..etc..
[19:07] <SmashStack> hitsujiTMO: ah, thank you. I looked around for quite a while but I couldn't figure out why it wasn't having any effect. I'll just throw them in my .zprofile
[19:07] <guillermo_> k
[19:07] <guillermo_> ddffg
[19:08] <usr13> howudodat: pastebinit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[19:08] <guillermo_> hg
[19:08] <Jordan_U> jazzme: Do you have this issue with this file : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Josh_Woodward_-_Swansong.ogg ?
[19:08] <howudodat> usr13: here is most everything http://pastebin.com/bEiwGGrE  (ps.  I haven't decided on a good servername yet, so it's just called server :) )
[19:09] <MaxDamage> Hi guys. Goal is to chroot a user with no shell, and make sure software ran by that user only has access to the user's home directory and nothing else. What I've done so far chmod the directory to 0755, put him in the sftp group (with the whole "ChrootDirectory %h" shabang) When I run the shell, though, it can go all around the filesystem.
[19:09] <MaxDamage> Is this normal, as it's running /bin/bash, and not some local shell?
[19:10] <jazzme> Jordan_U:That one is fine.  Plays fine and wget's fine.
[19:10] <FifoFolta> Hi
[19:10] <howudodat> usr13: persistent rules only had one line: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:21:2f:3b:36:c8", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="wlan*", NAME="wlan0"
[19:10] <FifoFolta> Hello!
[19:10] <Jordan_U> jazzme: Can you post a legal example URL that doesn't work?
[19:10] <jazzme> I'm trying to avoid downloading them on PC A to just copy them over to PC B
[19:10] <usr13> howudodat: lspci | pastebinit
[19:11] <FifoFolta> :)
[19:11] <howudodat> usr13: http://pastebin.com/MpVeRDfC
[19:11] <FifoFolta> Anyone?
[19:12] <jazzme> Jordan_U:http://darelfen.com/compilations/100%20pour%20100%20Deep%20Session/CD1/20131222080031-03%20-%20Alexandre%20Renoir%20-%20Insomnia%20%28Luxury%20Mix%29.mp3
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> FifoFolta: this us the ubuntu support channel. do you have an ubuntu suppot issue?
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> is* support*
[19:13] <FifoFolta> hitsujiTMO: Nope, sorry. Just using Pidgin to test an IRC connection.
[19:14] <usr13> howudodat: I don't suppose it matters much what the name is, (I suppose we could change it, but...).
[19:14] <wickz> jack@jack-VirtualBox:~$ ps waxf | grep greet
[19:14] <wickz>  3283 pts/0    S+     0:00                  \_ grep --color=auto greet
[19:14] <wickz>  1939 ?        Sl     0:01 /usr/sbin/lightdm-gtk-greeter
[19:14] <wickz>  2775 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/sbin/lightdm-gtk-greeter
[19:14] <usr13> howudodat: What was your original question?  What are you wanting to do with your network interfaces?
[19:15] <tsak_> where i should start to search this power managment problem. that every 10min if i don't touch the laptop it goes to sleep. i can't see bios because screen is smashed (im using external). apm=off and acpi=off won't work. i took from startup also power managment off so...hmmm
[19:16] <genii> tsak_: Might want: xset -dpms
[19:16] <howudodat> usr13: em1 answers arp requests for wlan0 (look at first pastebin, arp table at end)
[19:17] <tsak_> genii, hmm. ok i go to read what that does xD
[19:17] <genii> tsak_: Turns off the power saving on monitor so it always stays on
[19:18] <usr13> howudodat: I find it rather ineteresting that you only have one line in persistent rules file.  You only have Name="wlan0"
[19:18] <usr13> howudodat: Can you ping it's IP address?  ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:19] <genii> usr13: Yes, no ethX devices there....
[19:20] <usr13> howudodat: (Check the ping times, should be somewhat less than 1ms)
[19:20] <Jordan_U> jazzme: Wget from my machine downloads the full 7.4 MiB file. Could you please pastebin the output of "wget 'http://darelfen.com/compilations/100%20pour%20100%20Deep%20Session/CD1/20131222080031-03%20-%20Alexandre%20Renoir%20-%20Insomnia%20%28Luxury%20Mix%29.mp3'  " from the proplematic machine?
[19:20] <Midion_> So im installin lamp using the command sudo apt-get  install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin. I set my root password but now its asking about configuring database with dbconfig-common.
[19:20] <usr13> genii: Are you alos howudodat?
[19:21] <howudodat> I can ping both, 1.3 and 1.4, ping times < 1ms, however pre first ping on wireless takes 5-10seconds, first ping still responds in < 1ms.  pre-ping would be arp resolution
[19:21] <howudodat> usr13: no I am just me :)
[19:21] <Midion_> I need a better tutorial. the one im reading is not including all of the steps.
[19:22] <akurilin2> Hey folks, is there a difference between /var/spool/cron/crontabs and creating tabs under /etc/cron.d ?
[19:22] <akurilin2> Is either approach preferable?
[19:22] <usr13> howudodat: What verison of ubuntu-server do you have installed? cat /etc/issue
[19:22] <howudodat> user13: 13.10
[19:23] <bluedice> how long I have support for this distribution
[19:23] <usr13> howudodat: Oh... 13.10.  Ok.  Is it fully updated?
[19:23] <usr13> howudodat: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:23] <howudodat> should be, did a upgrade and dist-upgrade after install
[19:23] <howudodat> user13: last night
[19:23] <tsak_> genii, i have viewsonic LCD TV (my external). there isn't that kind of power managment setting :/
[19:23] <jazzme> Jordan_U: there is no output, it just hangs.
[19:24] <tsak_> genii, this is Oooold tv xD
[19:24] <usr13> howudodat: Have you tested the device to see if it works? Do you have it connected to anything?
[19:24] <Jordan_U> jazzme: No output at all? Did your prompt change?
[19:25] <jazzme> Jordan_U:I will pastebin what I get.
[19:25] <howudodat> user13: yes, it works just fine.  I can communicate wired or wireless.  it's just that wireless is always a bit slow to get started - kind of like my old ford mustang, takes a few more cranks to get started, but outruns my wifes car every time :) outruns
[19:26] <jazzme> Jordan_U:http://pastebin.com/pNgbph1D
[19:27] <jazzme> Jordan_U:it hanged on 3% so I just ctrl-c
[19:27] <usr13> howudodat: Well,"if it aint broke, don't fix it"
[19:28] <staticwarp> hi there, i'm trying to install ubuntu alongside windows 8 on a new laptop. I've followed this guide: http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2013/09/install-ubuntu-linux-alongside-windows.html
[19:28] <howudodat> usr13: unfortunately I would consider the ethernet port answering arp request with its mac address in response to a request for the wireless broken :)
[19:28] <Jordan_U> jazzme: Please run "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" for a minute or two and see if you get any failures.
[19:29] <staticwarp> but i'm stuck at the step where you boot from the usb drive. i'm actually trying to boot from a dvd with the ubuntu iso but cant boot from the dvd.
[19:29] <staticwarp> i've disabled secure boot and turned off fast boot, and made sure the dvd drive is set to 1st in the boot order.
[19:30] <Beldar> staticwarp, There is a uefi wiki and this thread, use info that is from ubuntu. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[19:30] <staticwarp> when i boot it always goes into windows 8.
[19:30] <Beldar> !uefi | staticwarp
[19:30] <staticwarp> thanks guys, i will check out both threads.
[19:32] <jazzme> Jordan_U:no errors
[19:35] <usr13> howudodat: ifconfig em1 hw ether  e0:69:95:91:62:50 #You can put it in /etc/rc.local
[19:35] <bekks> Or use macchanger
[19:35] <streulma> unable to enumerate usb device, device not accepting address, what can I do, it's the Android phone in Download mode.
[19:36] <usr13> That is a pretty messy thing to do but....
[19:36] <howudodat> usr13: but isn't that its mac address already?  what effect would that have?
[19:37] <usr13> howudodat: I don't know, try it and see
[19:37] <usr13> howudodat: Issue the above command and see if it then asnwers to it's own mac address>
[19:37] <Duy_> Quick question: will Ubuntu keep Python 2.6.5 updated/supported/maintained for 10.04 LTS?
[19:38] <Beldar> staticwarp, Note the instructions on the ubuntu thread on making a unallocated space in windows, imaging the windows and making a recovery disk
[19:38] <usr13> Duy_: You mean 12.04?  or  14.04?
[19:38] <Duy_> no
[19:38] <Duy_> I meant 10.04 LTS
[19:38] <Jordan_U> jazzme: You can always try "wget -c" to continue the failed download.
[19:38] <Duy_> that runs until 2015
[19:38] <usr13> Duy_: Is it now?
[19:39] <Duy_> please elaborate
[19:39] <staticwarp> Beldar: thanks, i made sure to do that. i definitely need to be able to restore windows if something goes wrong. :)
[19:39] <usr13> Duy_: I'm asking you to elaborate. Are you wanting to stay on 2.6.5?  Is that it?
[19:39] <Jordan_U> jazzme: How long did you try waiting for the download to complete?
[19:39] <Beldar> staticwarp, Yeah, we want that to. ;)
[19:41] <usr13> howudodat: I really don't have an explanation for what is happening on your system, not real sure what is causing the anomalies.  I'm hoping someone else will chime in here...
[19:41] <usr13> howudodat: You might ask on #ubuntu-server
[19:42] <staticwarp> Beldar: the more i read about this the more i think i'll need to enable legacy boot (CSM). when i tried enabling it in uefi i got some scary message "this may cause your computer to be unable to boot the OS", so i held off on that for now. if i do that and for some reason can't boot the os, do you think i'll be able to recover from the usb windows image?
[19:42] <Midion_> Im following a tutorial to install lamp. It says to run vi /var/www/info.php. I this but now I cant do anything in my ssh client. it gives like 15 lines with ~ on each line and then ends with."/var/www/info.php" [New File]
[19:43] <howudodat> usr13: thanks, I'll try ubuntu-server
[19:43] <usr13> Midion_: Give us the URL (of the tutorial you are following).
[19:43] <bekks> Midion_: Then you ran your editor on the "/var/www/" directory, not a file.
[19:44] <Beldar> staticwarp, The author of that thread on the UF is focused on this area and is on the UF daily. A thread with your info would probably get a visit there if needed.
[19:44] <Midion_> http://www.unixmen.com/install-lamp-with-1-command-in-ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat/
[19:44] <usr13> Midion_: [New File] means that you are about to create a new file, and that you are not editing an existing file.
[19:45] <cuddylier> Anyone know how I actually select English on this install screen? http://puu.sh/7qrT8.jpg Clicking enter on my keyboard or trying to use my mouse does not work.
[19:45] <GeekDude> Any reason midori often fails to download files?
[19:45] <Jordan_U> jazzme: wget by default only considers a tcp connection failed if A: The server explicitly disconects or B: 15 minutes have passed with no data being transfered. You can change this 15 minute timeout with --read-timeout=number_of_seconds .
[19:45] <staticwarp> Beldar: cool, i will post there with the details of the issue. :)
[19:45] <Midion_> I ran sudo apt-get  install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin instead of what that turorial said.
[19:46] <bekks> Midion_: So you're on 10.10?
[19:46] <Midion_> yes its suppose to create a new file so i can enter a few lines to test if php is installed.
[19:46] <Midion_> no
[19:47] <Midion_> I see thats it says its creating a new file. its just that now it wont let me do anything else.
[19:47] <Midion_> i press enter and nothing
[19:47] <trism> Midion_: type: a then type your code, then hit escape and type :wq
[19:48] <jazzme> Jordan_U:Thanks
[19:48] <bekks> Midion_: And which Ubuntu are you on, actually?
[19:48] <Midion_> 13.04
[19:48] <bekks> 13.04 is EOL since January.
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: does the enter key not work? or anything on the keyboard for that matter
[19:49] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO It just went to a different screen where I could use all my keys
[19:49] <cuddylier> Weird
[19:49] <cuddylier> Do I have the option to set my SSDs to RAID 1 in the setup?
[19:49] <cuddylier> Or is that done after the install?
[19:49] <Jordan_U> jazzme: You're welcome. Did changing --read-timeout= solve the problem for you?
[19:49] <cuddylier> Software RAID 1 btw
[19:50] <Midion_> bekks: im just using what my vps is offering.
[19:50] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: yes you can set raid 1 during the partitioning of the system
[19:50] <jazzme> Jordan_U: did you mean 15 mins or 15 seconds?
[19:50] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Excellent
[19:50] <Beldar> GeekDude, Make sure midori is the only browser having this problem, try another browser.
[19:51] <Jordan_U> jazzme: The default is 900 seconds, which is 15 minutes.
[19:51] <usr13> Midion_: Are you familiar  with the saying; "You've saddled a dead horse"?
[19:51] <bill3632> should i use the 64 bit or 32 bit version if i only have 2gb ram
[19:52] <usr13> bill3632: It's up to you.
[19:52] <jazzme> Jordan_U:Ok, although I don't expect to wait for so long....not sure why I don't have this problem on other PC's.
[19:52] <Midion_> i should be able to update even if my vps only came with 13.04 correct?
[19:52] <Jordan_U> jazzme: What program are you using to download on the other PCs?
[19:53] <geirha> Midion_: Depends on the vps
[19:53] <jazzme> same
[19:53] <jazzme> Jordan_U:Ubuntu...wget
[19:54] <GeekDude> Beldar: Midori is the only one that I've seen have this problem. Pages load fine, but downloads frequently just hang at 0%. The downloads work fine with wget and lynx
[19:54] <Midion_> so pressed a and put in the lines. i pressed escape and then typed wq but how do i know if it saved. nevermind i'll try to visit it in my browser.
[19:55] <trism> Midion_: it is :wq
[19:56] <trism> Midion_: and it should exit vim after you type it, then you could say: cat /var/www/info.php; to see the contents
[19:57] <trism> Midion_: you may want to use nano in the future instead of vim, or play with vimtutor a bit to learn the commands
[19:57] <cuddylier> What do I do at this stage of the installation? http://puu.sh/7qsZr.png
[19:57] <Jordan_U> jazzme: Is the problematic PC connected via wifi? If so, what chipset? (Some drivers, like Realtek's, have issues with cutting out periodically).
[19:58] <bekks> cuddylier: Either retry or configure your network manually.
[19:58] <jazzme> Jordan_U:Pc is connected via lan line
[19:58] <cuddylier> bekks: Okay, I'll try eth1
[19:59] <Midion_> trism: ty
[19:59] <jon1012> afpy
[19:59] <n0x_42> bluefrog If user1 creates a file on the shared drive than user2 can't edit that file. The permissions for the group both users are in are set to read/write. Shouldn't user2 be able to edit a file?
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> n0x_42: are bot users in the same group and are the groups mirrored on each system(same gid)
[20:00] <howudodat> usr13: ubuntu-server is pretty quiet.  just thought I'd add, I unplugged em1 from the hub and rebooted, and wireless wont come up automatically.  maybe it's something in my wireless / wpa_supllicant config
[20:00] <cuddylier> Do I just make up an IP here? http://puu.sh/7qthd.png
[20:01] <bekks> cuddylier: You set a valid IP there.
[20:01] <n0x_42> Yes to the first part. Does there need to be a group on the client computers as well?
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> n0x_42: yes. that user on the client would be needed to be in the same group if you are relying on unix permissions
[20:02] <usr13> howudodat: Well, it's a bit rare to use a wifi device on a server in the first place, sort of un-charted territory.
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> n0x_42: i assume this is an nfs share if you're using groups right?
[20:03] <usr13> howudodat: But I wonder why unplugging em1 would have to do with the WiFi device
[20:03] <hitsujiTMO> n0x_42: or is this a samba share?
[20:03] <tsak_> genii, now it's working!
[20:03] <n0x_42> Hmm ok so I can't just connect to the shared folder on the client computers. I have to replicate the user/group structure on each client machine?
[20:03] <n0x_42> It's samba
[20:03] <howudodat> usr13:agreed, howver sadly I only have 4 ports on my router (until my hub arrives). alternatively I could try and get wireless working on my desktop, but I'm pretty sure that's a lost cause as well - at least at N speeds
[20:04] <n0x_42> Would nfs be a better choice?
[20:04] <tsak_> genii, xset -dpms along didn't do the trick, but 'xset -dpms; xset s off' did! :)  thank you
[20:04] <cuete> Anyone have experience with xorg breaking?
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> n0x_42: for samba the unix permissions shouldn't have an issue. would more likely be samba persission setup instead
[20:04] <howudodat> usr13: in fact I would preferr the server to be wired and my desktop to work on N
[20:05] <usr13> howudodat: Since both devices are connected to the same network, I'm curious as to what the purpose is, (in having two connections as opposed to just one).
[20:05] <n0x_42> Ok so I am allowing access from each user in the samba share. Is there something in the conf file I need to change?
[20:05] <hitsujiTMO> n0x_42: depends on what your network is like. if its all linux then nfs would be simpler to configure
[20:05] <howudodat> usr13: it was temporary...I dont have enough wired ports, so I was trying to get it to work wireless, but wireless wont come up unless the wired port is plugged in
[20:06] <usr13> n0x_42: Is this samba server an MS Windows machine?
[20:06] <n0x_42> The directory is set to writeable and browseable. No, the shared directory is on ubuntu. The clients are Windows 8 and OS X.
[20:06] <subz3r0> anyone of you using ubuntu gnome 14.04?
[20:06] <usr13> howudodat: So you have an encrypted WiFi connection?
[20:07] <usr13> howudodat: wpa or something like that?
[20:07] <cuete> Anyone have experience with xorg breaking?
[20:07] <howudodat> usr13: yes wpa2-psk
[20:07] <genii> tsak_: Glad it worked for you :)
[20:07] <usr13> howudodat: Well, trun off the security.
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> cuete: you're gonna have to give more details than that. xorg likes to break in spectacular ways
[20:08] <usr13> howudodat: turn off wpa  (set security to none)
[20:08] <genii> cuete: Well, I've broken it a few times but i wouldn't say that I'm an expert at it
[20:08] <howudodat> usr13: as a test?  or permanently?
[20:09] <usr13> howudodat: I would suggest that the connection is being made by the wired device and not the wireless one.
[20:09] <usr13> howudodat: Yes permanently
[20:09] <usr13> howudodat: Turn it off on the router.
[20:10] <howudodat> usr13: ok, I'll make the server be wired...that's not a problem.  but in order to do that, I'd sure like my desktop to connect via N.  However last I tried, the BCM4360 wasn't working very well on N
[20:10] <howudodat> usr13: I cant leave my network open
[20:10] <usr13> howudodat: Oh. Ok.
[20:12] <usr13> howudodat: It's sometimes a bit difficult to establish a WiFi connection to an encrypted network without the use of network-manager.
[20:13] <usr13> howudodat: I'm sure it *can* be done, but I couldn't tell you how. The easy thing to do is turn off encryption.
[20:13] <usr13> howudodat: Or use a wireless bridge.
[20:13] <cuddylier> Is this a normal screen during the install process? http://puu.sh/7quiP.png
[20:13] <usr13> howudodat: A wireless bridge would be best.
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: how long has it been like that?
[20:14] <tgm4883> cuddylier, on server maybe
[20:14] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Around 5 minutes.
[20:15] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: prob just running something in the background. i've seen the screen stuck like that for a few mins on some odd hardware configs
[20:15] <evilbug> only running ssh server and irssi on my netbook (xubuntu 12.04) wiht lightdm disabled and top's telling me i have 67mb free ram out of 1gb. why is that?
[20:15] <cuddylier> Okay, I'll just wait longer.
[20:15] <usr13> howudodat: Or, you could use wicd-cli
[20:15] <hitsujiTMO> evilbug: are you looking at the +/- buffer cache line?
[20:16] <howudodat> usr13: I'll look into that.  for now it's wired
[20:16] <usr13> howudodat: you shoudl try wicd-cli
[20:17] <usr13> howudodat: ... for wireless
[20:17] <howudodat> usr13:ok, will look at that too
[20:17] <evilbug> hitsujiTMO: http://is.gd/rMXEkW
[20:18] <Guest93828> What's this?
[20:18] <Guest93828> where are you from?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> Guest93828  this is the ubuntu support channel
[20:19] <Guest93828> ?????????????/
[20:20] <evilbug> hitsujiTMO: any advice?
[20:21] <hitsujiTMO> evilbug: you're using 900M, BUT, most of that is used by buffers and cache. please read: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[20:21] <genii> Guest93828: This is the channel people that people ask for help with their Ubuntu operating system. If this is not what you want, you are probably in the wrong place.
[20:21] <hitsujiTMO> evilbug: the "used" ram is actually free to be used by apps if needed
[20:22] <evilbug> hitsujiTMO: you're the man, thanks a lot.
[20:23] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: It's still on that screen hmmm
[20:23] <PL4SSM4NN> hellp
[20:23] <PL4SSM4NN> hello
[20:23] <PL4SSM4NN> somebody there?
[20:23] <PL4SSM4NN> hello
[20:23] <genii> PL4SSM4NN: Yes, we see what you type.
[20:24] <PL4SSM4NN> ok
[20:24] <PL4SSM4NN> Using Ubuntu?
[20:24] <usr13> !anyone
[20:24] <genii> PL4SSM4NN: If you have a more specific question you need help with regarding your Ubuntu, just ask the channel generally and then see if someone assists.
[20:24] <evilbug> hitsujiTMO: also any suggestions on how to strip xubuntu down to ubuntu server?
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: hmm, at this point i'd prob open another tty (ctrl + alt + fX) and look at the logs
[20:25] <usr13> evilbug: uninstall xubuntu-desktop
[20:26] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Do I hold shift to get the capital 'X'?
[20:26] <evilbug> hitsujiTMO: i was thinking of removing all the xfce stuff via http://is.gd/NBnwb0 and then installing all the other server components.
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> evilbug: hmm. apt-get remove xorg xserver-xorg               should trigger a removal of all the X related apps
[20:26] <Payton> Is there any piece of software that can stop my system from heating up? xD
[20:26] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: I can enter text in the white bar
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: i mean: f3 or f4 when i say fX   ... there's a number of ttys running on each
[20:26] <evilbug> usr13: sure but there would be other xfce things left behind if i just run an uninstall on it.
[20:27] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Okay got it, where would I find the logs?
[20:28] <usr13> evilbug: yes, there would be a number of cleanup tasks
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: /var/log on the target drive.
[20:28] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Then view the 'syslog'?
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: i think its /var/log/installer for install related logs
[20:29] <evilbug> usr13: and then http://is.gd/NBnwb0 comes in for full removal.
[20:29] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: There is only two files in the log folder, syslog and media-info
[20:30] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: check the end of the syslog to start
[20:31] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: http://puu.sh/7qvNa.png
[20:32] <usr13> evilbug: Pretty long list.  Better to just re-install.
[20:32] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: is this in /var/log or something like: /target/var/log ?
[20:32] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO /var/log/syslog
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: whats the output of: mount
[20:33] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: http://puu.sh/7qvNa.png
[20:33] <cuddylier> I mean http://puu.sh/7qw2r.png
[20:34] <evilbug> usr13: ok, that's what i was afraid of.
[20:34] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: so it hasn't even gotten to the partitioning phase?
[20:34] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Nope
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: restart the install and hope it doesn't happen again
[20:35] <cuddylier> Okay :)
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: was the ip used valid for your network?
[20:35] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Yeah, I made sure of that
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: after what screen dis you get that hang?
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> did*
[20:36] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: The hostname one
[20:36] <Aossi> sup yall
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: hmm, ok, restart the install
[20:37] <born_to_code> hei folks!
[20:37] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: How do I get back to the main KVM window?
[20:38] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: that i'm not sure. haven't used kvm in years. i use esxi/workstation
[20:38] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Got it, F1 got me back
[20:38] <cuddylier> Now I wonder how I go back in the install hmm....
[20:39] <hitsujiTMO> ahhh, lol yeah. ctrl + alt + f1 brings you back to tty1
[20:39] <cuddylier> Got it
[20:42] <cybrNaut> should I remove this from the pre-seed file? => "d-i cdrom-detect/cdrom_device string /dev/sdb1"
[20:42] <cybrNaut> the USB stick may not necessarily always be /dev/sdb1
[20:42] <cybrNaut> so it seems wrong to have that in a preseed file
[20:43] <Duy_> Quick question: Python 2.6.5 is retired as of now. Would Ubuntu continue to support it in 10.04 LTS?
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> Duy_: yes. ubuntu will continue to issue security patches for it
[20:44] <Duy_> that's great
[20:44] <Duy_> how could I verify that?
[20:45] <Duy_> Sorry it's important for our product and I need to answer to legal dept
[20:45] <vozz> I've got a 120hz monitor plugged into my laptop with a displayport cable, but I can only get it to work on 60hz. How do I get 120hz to work?
[20:46] <vozz> To clarify, xrandr is showing 60hz as the only mode on 1920x1080, and I can't figure out a way to change it to 120hz
[20:46] <Sebouh> Would anyone be willing to help me dual boot Ubuntu on my computer? :)
[20:47] <gordonjcp> !dualboot
[20:47] <Sebouh> I'm having issues with my Wireless adapter, and it seems like there are no supported drivers for Ubuntu.
[20:47] <Sebouh> I should of made it clear that I know the actual process of how to dual boot.
[20:48] <Sebouh> Anyone?
[20:49] <vozz> What's your wireless adapter?
[20:49] <Sebouh> My Wireless Adapter is: Realtek 8821AE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC.
[20:51] <someHuman> Hello!
[20:51] <basketball> Sebouh: http://www.pcpitstop.com/drivers/manufacturer/realtek.html
[20:51] <someHuman> How come Ubuntu 13.10 doesn't show up whenever am done after an installation?
[20:52] <yeats> !details | someHuman
[20:52] <k1l_> someHuman: install the grub into the MBR of the first disk. not the partition but the MBR
[20:52] <someHuman> I only have Windows 8.1 atm.
[20:52] <someHuman> I want to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8.1
[20:53] <Sebouh> I'm in the same position, someHuman, aha.
[20:53] <Beldar> !uefi | someHuman
[20:53] <someHuman> Sebouh: Lol.
[20:53] <someHuman> Crap!
[20:53] <Sebouh> basketball: The link on that webpage only provides me with a Windows 8 driver. Am I out of luck?
[20:54] <cuete> Anyone have experience with xorg breaking?
[20:54] <basketball> Sebouh:  give me a minute pleaase i am looking into it
[20:54] <someHuman> If the Ubuntu DVD works on VirtualBox, will it guarantee me a bootable distro?
[20:54] <Beldar> someHuman, Besides the uefi wiki, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[20:54] <someHuman> I already have 13.10 with me.
[20:54] <cuete> I've got an Acer Aspire One E1-510-4487 that xorg doesn't want to display anything on.
[20:55] <Sebouh> basketball: No problem. I appreciate the help.
[20:55] <someHuman> cuete: We're on the same boat.
[20:55] <adamcunnington> Hi, I think i've encountered a bug on 12.04. My terminal windows that are open aren't viewable with alt+tab and they're not showing up on the launchpad either. I can only find them by super + w
[20:55] <basketball> Sebouh: what version of ubutntu
[20:56] <Sebouh> someHuman: I think it would boot, but things like WiFi capability might not be guaranteed, like my problem right now.
[20:56] <Sebouh> basketball: The latest LTS.
[20:56] <basketball> Sebouh:  14.04 or 12.04
[20:56] <HEROnymous> 14.04 isn't released yet
[20:56] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: http://puu.sh/7qy3l.png At this stage I enter e.g. <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> right?
[20:56] <Sebouh> basketball: 12.04 LTS.
[20:57] <basketball> ok Sebouh
[20:57] <cuete> someHuman : UEFI boot with 13.10 and xorg breaking?
[20:57] <someHuman> cuete: Yes.
[20:58] <someHuman> I haven't experienced booting into 13.10, like EVER!
[20:58] <cuete> someHuman: How far have you gotten?
[20:58] <someHuman> I have only experienced 'till 13.04.
[20:58] <someHuman> :(
[20:59] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: yup
[20:59] <Sebouh> What would I do when a newer LTS is released?
[21:00] <someHuman> What's good about LTS?
[21:00] <Ari-Yang> Sebouh: you'll get a notification about an upgrade for the next LTS
[21:00] <Ari-Yang> someHuman: long term support
[21:00] <someHuman> Is it == to rolling release?
[21:00] <Beldar> Sebouh, You can upgrade lts to lts or up one release at a time.
[21:00] <ePax> I can not connect to my remote ubuntu with remove viewer... i have tryed to change default vino port... How can i set it to defaul port again?
[21:00] <Ari-Yang> non lts usually are supported for 9 months
[21:00] <k1l_> !lts | someHuman
[21:00] <cuete> someHuman: have you installed the system, just not able to see the desktop?
[21:01] <k1l_> someHuman: ubuntu doesnt have rolling release
[21:01] <adamcunnington> Hi, I think i've encountered a bug on 12.04. My terminal windows that are open aren't viewable with alt+tab and they're not showing up on the launchpad  either. I can only find them by super + w
[21:01] <someHuman> cuete: Yes.
[21:01] <K`zan> Hi Folks, trying to help a handicapped friend, how can I get X to read the (modified) mousekeys file?  X ignores it and no errors whether it is installed or not (/usr/share/X11/xkb/compat/mousekeys).  OR, if there is someway (xmodmap?) to implement them manually / script (i.e.:  interpret u { action = MovePtr(x=-10,y=-10); } ).  Thanks much!!!
[21:02] <cuete> Is there a way to see what video drivers and/or video cards are on the system?
[21:02] <someHuman> k1l_: What am trying to say is, is it like it?
[21:02] <basketball> Sebouh:  do you have a link to your adapter
[21:02] <k1l_> someHuman: no
[21:02] <someHuman> Ah ok
[21:02] <Beldar> cuete, lspci in the terminal lists some hardware
[21:02] <someHuman> cuete: Yep it does.
[21:03] <someHuman> I'll first try out 13.10 on VBox.
[21:03] <adamcunnington> cuete: lshw -c video and look for the line saying "configuration"
[21:03] <Sebouh> basketball: Err, it came with my computer so I really wouldn't know. :\
[21:03] <someHuman> Is that a legit way to see if a distro would boot after the installation?
[21:03] <basketball> Sebouh:  what pc
[21:03] <Sebouh> basketball: Let me find it, sec.
[21:04] <k1l_> someHuman: no
[21:04] <k1l_> someHuman: VM just simulates hardware. on your real hardware there could be other issues
[21:05] <adamcunnington> Hi, I think i've encountered a bug on 12.04. My terminal windows that are open aren't viewable with alt+tab and they're not showing up on the launchpad   either. I can only find them with super + w
[21:05] <cuddylier> hiysujiTMO: Got past the last stage :)
[21:06] <cuete> is there another graphics handler besides xorg?
[21:06] <Beldar> someHuman, If windows is important to you image/clone it before any install of ubuntu, per the link I sent you from the UF.
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | cuddylier
[21:06] <Sebouh> basketball: It's not listed on the website anymore, but it's more or less the same as this one, minus the RAM and processor: http://www.futureshop.ca/en-ca/product/asus-asus-m51-desktop-pc-intel-core-i7-4770-2tb-hdd-12gb-ram-windows-8-1-m51ad-ca001s/10284325.aspx?path=84b0e7ee6ac11dc81fb7e10acff8d455en02
[21:07] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: http://puu.sh/7qz0t.png What now if I want RAID 1?
[21:07] <basketball> and the adapter is the Realtek 8821AE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC. correct
[21:08] <Sebouh> So frustrated, lol.
[21:08] <basketball> Sebouh:  i am trying sorry i dont know a lot about reltek drivers
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: check out this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[21:09] <Sebouh> basketball: Don't worry, man. I appreciate the effort. :)
[21:09] <basketball> Sebouh:  ill keep looking
[21:09] <basketball> Sebouh:  can you check in additional drivers
[21:09] <cuete> is there another graphics handler besides xorg?
[21:11] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Only issue I see is the SWAP is 32gb out of my 120gb SSD, how do I reduce it? It doesn't mention it in the guide.
[21:11] <cuete> Is there a channel that deals specifically with xorg?
[21:12] <Sebouh> basketball: Listed under 'Network Adapters' are: Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network), Bluetooth Device (RFCOMM Protocol TDI), Realtek 8821AE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC, Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller.
[21:12] <Beldar> !nomodeset | cuete
[21:13] <basketball> Sebouh:  you have Realtek 8821AE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC
[21:13] <basketball> select that
[21:13] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: delete it and recreate it with the right size you want. then upsize the other partitions
[21:13] <Sebouh> basketball: Okay, now what?
[21:14] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Does this look right to you? http://puu.sh/7qzwy.png
[21:14] <cuete> Beldar: I've set it to nomodeset, still nothing.
[21:14] <basketball> what is on the screen Sebouh
[21:14] <Beldar> cuete, Just now?
[21:14] <Sebouh> basketball: Its properties menu on Windows 8.1
[21:15] <anonymous> hello
[21:15] <basketball> Sebouh:  are you on ubuntu or windows
[21:15] <Guest5081> ubuntu
[21:15] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: yes, but i typicall drop down the reserves blocks to about 1-2%
[21:15] <Sebouh> basketball: I'm currently on Windows because the adapter wasn't working with Ubuntu.
[21:16] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: What is the reserve block purpose?
[21:16] <Guest5081>  well im running Anonymous-os
[21:16] <cuete> Beldar, I've been doing it for the past 12 hours or so within grub.
[21:16] <Sebouh> basketball: There are two driver files on here, but I'm not sure if they'd be of any use.
[21:16] <basketball> Sebouh:  i cant help you if you are using ubuntu please see #windows
[21:16] <cuete> When I try to run startx in terminal, it returns "No screens found" error.
[21:16] <basketball> if you are not
[21:16] <k1l_> Guest5081: congrats, your system is not only not supported in here its even unsecure at all
[21:17] <Sebouh> basketball: I'm not using Ubuntu?
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: when you reach that percentage of free disk space left, only root can write files. its used to keep a system running with low disk space (i.e, keep logs working for as long as possible)
[21:17] <Guest5081> people why r u in a ubuntu chat if ur on another operating system
[21:17] <Guest5081> i have  a question
[21:17] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Ah okay, so a smaller percentage means more disk space for the whole system
[21:17] <basketball> 14:15] <Sebouh> basketball: I'm currently on Windows
[21:18] <Sebouh> I was under the inference that there was a community ready to help with a transition, lol.
[21:18] <Beldar> cuete, Ah, Have you tried installing a lighter desktop like lubuntu to see if you get a desktop.
[21:18] <basketball> !ask  Guest5081
[21:18] <hggdh> ertax-pts901
[21:18] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Also is my 2nd drive meant to be bound to /home?
[21:18] <Sebouh> I'm asking about a network problem and I have no other way of communicating it than through Windows...
[21:18] <basketball> !ask |  Guest5081
[21:18] <cuddylier> As it can't bind to / since the first SSD is on /
[21:18] <cuete> Beldar, no. Though I did get desktop when I ran the installer on nomodeset.
[21:18] <hggdh> sorry, wrong window
[21:18] <cuete> Am I to assume that it works in theory at least?
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: -ish, yes.       cuddylier if you want that for home then mount it as /home   thats a normal strategy
[21:19] <DJones> Guest5081: You said you are using Anonymous OS, thats not a supported version of Ubuntu
[21:19] <adamcunnington> Hi, I think i've encountered a bug on 12.04. My terminal windows that are open aren't viewable with alt+tab and they're not showing up on the launchpad    either. I can only find them with super + w
[21:19] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Yeah, although surely both will sync with each other since I'm gonna set them as RAID?
[21:19] <cuddylier> Or does it write to that SSD then the other SSD copies the stuff over to itself?
[21:19] <basketball> Sebouh:  do you have another device besides the computer that can connect to irc
[21:19] <Beldar> cuete, From that desktop through nomodeset you would update and upgrade and check the additional drivers tab in software sources to start with.
[21:19] <Guest5081> i have a version of #ubuntu on a disk and i want it on the computer that im on how do i delete the version of windows and keep this operating system
[21:20] <Sebouh> basketball: No.
[21:20] <basketball> not a smart phone or tablet
[21:20] <cuete> Beldar: I enabled downloading of third party software and everything else it needed for the system...
[21:20] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: raid will sync the partitions. if you are using 2 drives, then create the same scructure on both then follow the link i gave you earlier to convert them to md partitions
[21:20] <Sebouh> basketball: Unfortunately not.
[21:21] <Beldar> cuete, 3rd party on the install process?
[21:21] <Guest5081> basketball: i have a version of #ubuntu on a disk and i want it on the computer that im on how do i delete the version of windows and keep this operating system
[21:21] <DJones> Guest5081: You've just said you're using Anonymous OS, thats not a version of Ubuntu
[21:21] <cuete> Beldar: Yeah, the button that checks for additional software sources.
[21:21] <cuete> checkbox
[21:21] <basketball> Sebouh:  i am sorry but i cant help you then
[21:21] <DJones> Guest5081: please pastebin the results of cat /etc/issue
[21:22] <Guest5081> im talking about a different computer
[21:22] <adamcunnington> Is everyone ignoring me? Asked the same question like 6 times with no response!
[21:22] <Sebouh> Alright.
[21:22] <basketball> Guest5081:  when you boot from the live disk there will be a section on partioning
[21:22] <hitsujiTMO> Guest5081: the answer then is: you install it
[21:22] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Okay so both / like this? http://puu.sh/7qAcQ.png
[21:22] <basketball> Guest5081:  it will ask if you want to install along side or erase it
[21:22] <minimec> Sebouh: I was looking @your problem It looks like your wifi card will bee supported in 14.04. Ubuntu has patched the 3.13 kernel to support your device. General support will be in kernel 3.14. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1287298 and https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Realtek_RTL8821AE_Combo_Module
[21:23] <Beldar> cuete, Ah, so as I said on the desktop through nomodeset you need to run a update and upgrade, then check the additional drivers tab. Not all drivers gets installed automatically there may be options. This is just a a guess to your problem, but the least you would check.
[21:23] <Sebouh> minimec: Thanks for the update. When will 14.04 be released?
[21:24] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: then configure it as a raid. i would create a small swap space too, even if its only 1gb
[21:24] <cuete> Beldar: I have access to the system right now, is there a way to manually download the drivers?
[21:24] <Beldar> cuete, No internet access?
[21:24] <Guest5081> cat /etc/issue
[21:24] <cuete> Beldar, I have internet access
[21:24] <Guest5081> ubuntu 11.10 \n \c
[21:24] <minimec> Sebouh: April 17th https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[21:25] <minimec> Sebouh: Do you have a 64bit ubuntu installation?
[21:25] <Beldar> cuete, Why the manual download?
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> Guest5081: 11.10 is End of Life an no longer supported
[21:25] <Guest5081> ubuntu 11.10 \n \l
[21:25] <cuete> beldar: I'm not able to access the desktop/gui
[21:25] <Sebouh> minimec: Yes, I do. I guess I'll have to wait till April or dig around for another adapter.
[21:25] <Beldar> cuete, You can through nomodeset right?
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> Guest5081: download the 12.04 iso. its supported until 2017
[21:26] <cuete> Beldar: Nomodeset just brings me to command line
[21:26] <Guest5081> Can i make the operating system on the live disk my main operating system with terminal
[21:26] <cuete> no nomodeset just shows a black screen
[21:26] <Beldar> cuete, What does this mean than "Beldar, no. Though I did get desktop when I ran the installer on nomodeset."?
[21:26] <hitsujiTMO> Guest5081: 12.04 has an alternative installer that can run from cli
[21:26] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Do I need to the turn the bootable flag on for the SWAP partition? Yeah?
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: bootable flag isn't actually used
[21:27] <Beldar> cuete, Ah I see on the installer not the install, my mistake.
[21:27] <cuete> Beldar: When I was installing the system, I couldn't access the desktop.
[21:27] <Guest5081> so i can partition this to make it my only operating system on my HDD
[21:27] <cuete> Beldar: yeah
[21:27] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Oh, I set the 1gb parition to 'logical' but it isn't going to SWAP hmm
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> Guest5081: yes. if you want to install from cli use the 12.04 alternative iso
[21:27] <cuete> Belder: When Installing the system, in grub, I hat to set nomodeset just to see the installer.
[21:28] <cuete> if that makes sense
[21:28] <Guest5081> hitsujiTMO what if i wann ado it with this 11.10
[21:28] <Jordan_U> Guest5081: We are not going to help you with anything other than Ubuntu 12.04 LTS or Ubuntu 13.10.
[21:28] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:28] <PL4SSM4NN> ?
[21:28] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: you can have it as primary if you wish. you format it as "swap space", but that would be after creating the raid mds
[21:28] <minimec> Sebouh: Well you could be dirty and 'wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14-rc6-trusty/linux-image-3.14.0-031400rc6-generic_3.14.0-031400rc6.201403100035_amd64.deb' and then 'sudo dpkg -i http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14-rc6-trusty/linux-image-3.14.0-031400rc6-generic_3.14.0-031400rc6.201403100035_amd64.deb'. That would install the latest 3.14 kernel into you existing installation. this one would be the newest 3.1
[21:29] <Beldar> cuete, Since you have a terminal find the graphic hardware info with lspci, You can install pastebinit and have this go to a pastebin for the channel to read, in your inquiries.
[21:29] <Guest5081> WTF its all ubuntu just a older version
[21:29] <Beldar> !pastebinit | cuete
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> Guest5081: you can't. 11.10 is no longer supported so you can't get the alternative iso
[21:29] <DJones> !eol | Guest5081
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> !language | Guest5081
[21:29] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:29] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:29] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:29] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:29] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:29] <cuete> beldar: I'll get on it
[21:29] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:29] <PL4SSM4NN> Hello i have installed ubuntu in my computer and it is very good but it's common to have a bug that the screen make a strange forms?
[21:29] <minimec> Sebouh: 'sudo dpkg -i linux-image-3.14.0-031400rc6-generic_3.14.0-031400rc6.201403100035_amd64.deb' sorry...
[21:29] <jeffrey_f> working on a script.  I've got MOST of this working.  When invoking     for i in `cat /testcurl.txt` ; do curl -O $i ; done, which works, but it need the files to go into another sub folder called data.  Please advise
[21:30] <DJones> w 15
[21:30] <Guest5081> does anyone use ubuntu to hack
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> Guest5081: hacking is not supported here
[21:30] <hggdh> pspldb201
[21:30] <hggdh> darn! sorry
[21:31] <Pencil_> I installed ubuntu and the lan doesn't work.   Where can  some guidelines
[21:31] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: What do I set the mount point as for the SWAP parition?
[21:31] <Sebouh> minimec: Not sure I understand these commands, but I'll give them a try. What would it do? :s
[21:32] <jamesd> cuddylier: swap has no mount point, just set filesystem type to swap, and it will work
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: just set the fiesystem to swap space. it doesn't have a mount point
[21:32] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: Just found it thanks
[21:33] <basketball> Sebouh:  im sorry but i cant help you unless you are in ubuntu os
[21:34] <Sebouh> I wasn't asking for your assistance, mate. :s
[21:34] <basketball> Sebouh: yes you were
[21:34] <minimec> Sebouh: the wget command would download the latest 3.14 kernel from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ . The 'sudo dpkg -i' command would install that kernel. After a reboot, you would run that 'bleeding edge' kernel. If the boot hangs, you would have to load the old kernel in 'Advanced options for Ubuntu' @ the boot screen.
[21:36] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: When setting up the RAID 1 it's asking for two paritions but that leaves out the RAID parition, should I just ignore it?
[21:36] <Sebouh> minimec: How would I run the 'bleeding edge' kernel after reboot? It might be worth noting that I haven't actually installed Ubuntu since it recommended I be connected to WiFi when installing.
[21:36] <minimec> Sebouh: In that case, I would wait another month... ;)
[21:37] <david1> yo, I have a problem that I am finding impossible to look up. It isn't particularly with ubuntu, is there perhaps an IRC channel for WINE?
[21:37] <Sebouh> minimec: Another month it is. Thanks for the help. :D
[21:38] <basketball> Sebouh:  was minimec  able to help you
[21:38] <Sebouh> basketball: Yes.
[21:39] <basketball> Sebouh:  i am sorry i dont know alot about drivers
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: yes, a raid 1 would need a minimum of 2 partitions. so you should have /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 for / and if you're raiding the swap /dev/sda2 and /dev/sdb2 for that aswell
[21:39] <Sebouh> basketball: It's okay, mate, you tried and I'm thankful for it. :)
[21:40] <Sebouh> Take care everyone!
[21:40] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Yeah just got it, my installation didn't freeze at any point however, it's still fine?
[21:41] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO It stopped me after I tried to continue saying the mountpoints where the same, /
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: the mount points should be fixed as they should be reffering to mds. is the partition menu showing you the raid devices?
[21:42] <david1> so... irc channel for wine?
[21:42] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Ah, it didn't actually create the RAID, it's asking me to delete two paritions here but how can I select two when the cursor goes between 1? http://puu.sh/7qBPz.jpg
[21:42] <cuddylier> I mean select two paritions rather than delete
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: yeah select /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 for your / raid
[21:43] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO How though? When I use my arrow keys it just goes between 1 option only
[21:44] <cuddylier> hitsujuTMO: Got it, I just didn't read the part about space being the selector
[21:44] <umib0zu> hey all. how can I remove packages from /boot when the partition is full? I've tried dpkg purge and dpkg autoremove and in both cases they error out
[21:44] <david1> .-.
[21:45] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: cool
[21:45] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO It said no root file system was detected... hmm
[21:46] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: http://puu.sh/7qC5p.png
[21:46] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: you need to assign that raid device then as / and formatted to ext4
[21:47] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO When I select the RAID 1 partition all I see is: http://puu.sh/7qCaY.png
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: change use as: to use as: ext4 or / or whatever
[21:49] <Midion_> hmm just setup my server with vestacp.... so far I like it.
[21:50] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO: On to the next stage now, thank you so much so far.
[21:50] <umib0zu> hey all. how can I remove packages from /boot when the partition is full? I've tried dpkg purge and dpkg autoremove and in both cases they error out
[21:52] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: can you pastebin the output of: df -h
[21:53] <minimec> umib0zu: It would be 'sudo apt-get autoremove' That might remove some old kernels.
[21:53] <umib0zu> its on a separate computer but the /boot partition is at 98%
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: should be much easier from here on in
[21:53] <umib0zu> and I've tried autoremove and it breaks as well
[21:53] <cuddylier> Yeah, I think I should be fine now and at least I now know exactly how to do another install
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: manually rm an old kernel to free up some space
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: just make sure its not one you will be using
[21:54] <umib0zu> I've gone into /boot and actually rm'ed a few of the files
[21:54] <Beldar> umib0zu, several methods, http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: and are you still getting an issue after removing a few of them?
[21:54] <umib0zu> yeah
[21:54] <umib0zu> is there an updating command?
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get -f install
[21:57] <umib0zu_> hitsujiTMO http://pastebin.com/4KP22ja0
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu_: that seems to suggest another drive is also out of space. can you pastebin the output of: df -h && df -i
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> s/drive/partition
[22:00] <Beldar> umib0zu_, Is this raring 13.04?
[22:01] <sudormrf> does anyone in here know if privoxy has an IRC channel?
[22:02] <IdleOne> sudormrf: you can try /msg alis *privoxy* list
[22:02] <OerHeks> !alis
[22:03] <sudormrf> IdleOne: thanks
[22:03] <umib0zu_> beldar, yeah its 13.04
[22:03] <umib0zu_> I'm trying to ugrade and it's failing
[22:03] <umib0zu_> http://pastebin.com/RfKWgtLq
[22:03] <cuete> Beldar: VGA Controller: Intel Corporation ValleyView Gen7
[22:04] <basketball> \/j #ubuntu-meting
[22:04] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: can you pastebin the output of: ls -latr /boot && uname -r
[22:05] <PL4SSM4NN> hello
[22:06] <Beldar> cuete, Graphics are not my strongest area is all, others here are better.
[22:06] <umib0zu_> http://pastebin.com/TFPZZRXk
[22:06] <umib0zu_> hitsujiTMO http://pastebin.com/TFPZZRXk
[22:07] <cuete> Beldar: thanks for your help nonetheless!
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: sudo rm /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-25-generic /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-26-generic /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-27-generic
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu_: ^
[22:09] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu_: that should free up enough space
[22:09] <dougl> where do I put my script that needs to be exec with root privleges?
[22:11] <apb1963> any bootp fanatics here?  And perhaps just maybe intimate with dhcpdump?  I'm seeing things I just don't understand.  Like... why is my system broadcasting bootp requests?   Why is it sending them to a private address?  How is it that I'm actually getting responses?  And why won't it stop?  Here's a capture file: http://fpaste.org/84127/44894331/
[22:11] <minimec> dougl: @boot? /etc/rc.local
[22:13] <tgm4883> What can I use to send gcode to a solidoodle 3 (3d printer)?
[22:13] <magicflakes> any thoughts why I can't install this package? I'm using the defaults ppas. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7070331/
[22:14] <dbainbri> I am going to be traveling to Haiti in a few weeks and taking some old donated PCs on which I have installed ubuntu. I may have to re-install or do other such work while I am there. As my network access will be limited and/or slow, how can I get an ISO of the latest 13.10 artifacts without building it myself? Is there a nightly ISO image? I would like to avoid as many over the wire updates as possible.
[22:14] <tgm4883> magicflakes, what release of ubuntu?
[22:14] <magicflakes> 12.04 LTS
[22:14] <tgm4883> dbainbri, is there a local network? I'd mirror the repo there
[22:15] <hitsujiTMO> magicflakes: try running sudo apt-get update first
[22:15] <dbainbri> tgm4883, not that i know of.
[22:15] <umib0zu_> hitsujiTMO ok I've actually removed a few of those. should I aim to just remove img files?
[22:15] <tgm4883> dbainbri, not sure then. There isn't a daily 13.10 iso you can get
[22:15] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: just removing those few should free enough space for the install to finish
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> magicflakes: if that doesn't allow it to install then please pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy libxml2-dev
[22:16] <dbainbri> tgm4883, thx.
[22:17] <OerHeks> tgm4883, i have seen Redsnapper in action, http://reprap.org/wiki/Repsnapper http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/man1/repsnapper.1.html
[22:18] <tgm4883> OerHeks, I'll try that
[22:18] <magicflakes> here's the apt-cache http://paste.ubuntu.com/7070358/
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> magicflakes: and also the output of: apt-cache policy libxml2
[22:19] <raj> is X on a server crazy?
[22:19] <bekks> raj: Yes.
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> raj: usually yes. there are a number a very small situations where it isn't
[22:19] <raj> hitsujiTMO, such as?
[22:19] <gordonjcp> raj: yes
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> raj: bitcoin mining with radeon cards for instance
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> raj: and some rendering servers
[22:20] <gordonjcp> raj: graphics processing sometimes pulls in X libs, for which the easiest thing to do is pull down an X server package
[22:20] <sudormrf> hey guys, so I setup privoxy and it is working well, but there is one drawback.  Youtube videos don't work.  Is there a way for me to whitelist a site with privoxy?  I looked in /etc/privoxy/ but didn't see something obvious.
[22:20] <raj> okie dokes, I won't do it
[22:21] <gordonjcp> raj: there's not really any need for it
[22:21] <magicflakes> sorry, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7070381/
[22:22] <raj> gordonjcp, I want an easy way to work with my remote server
[22:22] <raj> move files around, etc
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> raj: unless you actually need it to run some of the software you need on the server, then don't install it
[22:22] <raj> I don't, I don't think
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> magicflakes: did you install 2.9 from a ppa?]
[22:22] <amb1s1> I have ubuntu running on my server. The server has a Gnome but since I have a server on the basement as media server, the server boot to command line. Is there a way to have openvpn start from the terminal?
[22:23] <hitsujiTMO> magicflakes: it looks as if you installed it from a ppa and then removed the ppa
[22:23] <raj> does gtk library require X?
[22:23] <raj> if I want to manipulate video files
[22:24] <magicflakes> oh, I should look for that ppa and add it again right?
[22:24] <raj> GObject
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | magicflakes add the ppa again, then remove it with ppa-purge
[22:26] <magicflakes> okay, thanks hitsujiTMO. I'll give an update.
[22:29] <gordonjcp> what's the equivalent of "/etc/init.d/networking restart" in Ubuntu 13.10?
[22:29] <gordonjcp> if I type that, I get some nonsense about using "service" in an upstart system
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> sudo restart networking
[22:29] <gordonjcp> but if I type "sudo service restart networking" ubuntu crashes hard
[22:30] <minimec> gordonjcp: sudo service networking restart
[22:30] <gordonjcp> minimec: kernel panics
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> gordonjcp: yes, known bug
[22:30] <gordonjcp> so, it's knackered then?
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> gordonjcp: been there since release. i'm surprised they haven't fixed it
[22:30] <gordonjcp> hitsujiTMO: 13.10 is a disaster
[22:31] <gordonjcp> it's alpha quality at best
[22:31] <Meerkat> the clear 'form & search history' option on firefox 27 stopped working a few days ago. Is this a known issue?
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> gordonjcp: most of the issues in 13.10 appear to be ingored yet fixed in 14.04
[22:31] <gordonjcp> hitsujiTMO: hm
[22:31] <sammy> is there a trick to getting iwconfig to apply rate settings? `sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M` yields no error, but doesn't change the connected speed.
[22:31] <gordonjcp> hitsujiTMO: 13.10 has destroyed my confidence in Ubuntu
[22:31] <bjoswald> I'm excited for 14.04 since I haven't upgraded in a long time
[22:31] <bjoswald> I don't trust "in-between" releases
[22:32] <Dandaman3452_> holy crap 14.04 already
[22:32] <wolfy1339_> where would i report a problem with my mouse? runnin 14.04
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> gordonjcp: hmm, yeah, i think all focus is on the lts, especially in the 6 months before release. 13.10 is getting little attention
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339_: report a bug on launchpad
[22:32] <gordonjcp> hahaha, now what
[22:33] <wolfy1339_> but what package?
[22:33] <gordonjcp> "sudo service networking restart" appears to have destroyed X completely
[22:33] <gordonjcp> on rebooting, it's in low graphics mode
[22:33] <gordonjcp> Unity doesn't show up
[22:33] <gordonjcp> none of the text consoles show up
[22:33] <gordonjcp> once again, 13.10 is fucking *comically* broken
[22:34] <IdleOne> gordonjcp: please watch the language
[22:34] <gordonjcp> I give up
[22:34] <gordonjcp> IdleOne: make me
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339_: most likely xorg related.
[22:34] <gordonjcp> IdleOne: I've spent *hours* trying to work around the crippling bugs in this
[22:34] <gordonjcp> IdleOne: I'm getting increasingly frustrated with the constant decline in quality of Ubuntu releases
[22:35] <gordonjcp> IdleOne: the last thing I want to hear is Pollyanna-ish comments like that
[22:35] <IdleOne> seriously? not like this is your first time in an ubuntu channel.  Brand?
[22:40] <sammy> though, the fact that `iwlist wlan0 rate` yeilds 'unknown bit-rate information' instead of a list (before telling me the currently connected rate) leads me to believe I can't change the rate with the iwconfig command
[22:42] <elbixoAPODO> hola
[22:48] <basketball> elbixoAPODO:  hola
[22:53] <Rory> Hello basketball elbixoAPODO
[22:57] <kamil_> hy
[22:57] <GeekDude> Can I get ping to print something whenever a packet is dropped?
[22:57] <kamil_> im a newbie here
[22:57] <kamil_> can someone help me ?
[23:00] <AlanBell> what is up kamil_?
[23:00] <kostkon> !anyone | kamil_
[23:00] <erry> .
[23:01] <AlanBell> GeekDude: it kind of doesn't know it has dropped ICMP doesn't give a timescale for the reply, it could be *really* slow
[23:01] <kamil_> i try to change ubuntu 13.04 theme. but it's can be downloaded
[23:01] <kamil_> from noobslabs
[23:03] <AlanBell> kamil_: there is a PPA for that stuff https://launchpad.net/~noobslab/+archive/themes I haven't tried it myself though
[23:03] <GeekDude> AlanBell: Windows doesn't seem to have an issue like that. Can I specify a cutoff time?
[23:04] <GeekDude> -f is *kinda* like what I want, but not really
[23:04] <AlanBell> GeekDude: yeah, ping has a -W flag for that
[23:05] <bowser5543> erm.. anyone know if you can create a chat?
[23:05] <GeekDude> AlanBell: abd wgeb a packet takes longer than W milliseconds, it will print a request timeout?
[23:06] <AlanBell> GeekDude: W is in seconds
[23:06] <PL4SSM4NN> hello
[23:06] <PL4SSM4NN> clear
[23:06] <bowser5543> ..
[23:06] <GeekDude> oh
[23:06] <AlanBell> GeekDude: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers for example ping with very very slow packets :)
[23:06] <amb1s1> is there a way to force ubuntu to boot to gnome even if there is not monitor plugin?
[23:06] <AlanBell> GeekDude: perhaps mtr or tracepath is the tool you really want to use
[23:07] <hiroshima> hello
[23:07] <GeekDude> AlanBell: I'm just trying to test the stability of my wifi dongle
[23:07] <GeekDude> I keep dropping packets
[23:07] <AlanBell> mtr then
[23:07] <hiroshima> hey can anyone reccomend a couple of good linux games?
[23:08] <GeekDude> AlanBell: Great. It started spewing network is unreachable :P
[23:08] <hiroshima> hey can anyone reccomend a couple of good linux games?
[23:08] <GeekDude> hiroshima: tux racer
[23:08] <fooper> hiroshima: What type?
[23:08] <hiroshima> any kind
[23:08] <HERM3S> I'm back :(
[23:08] <hiroshima> just general good games
[23:08] <AlanBell> hiroshima: flight of the amazon queen is in the repos
[23:09] <HERM3S> I am still having issues with nvidia drivers and two seperate cards
[23:09] <[RO]Daniel> hiroshima, try steam, they have quite a lot...i think it's a good start
[23:09] <hiroshima> ok
[23:09] <AlanBell> hiroshima: have a look in the software centre, there is a games category, oh yeah, and steam is games
[23:09] <fooper> hiroshima: Xonotic and assaultcube are FPSes, gl117, frozen bubble, that puzzle game that has a name I can't remember.
[23:09] <bowser5543> guys, i really need to create a chat for a project. Can anyone help?
[23:09] <hiroshima> thanks
[23:09] <AlanBell> bowser5543: you mean a channel like this?
[23:09] <fooper> enigma*
[23:10] <bowser5543> alan: like a private channel
[23:10] <basketball> !offtopic bowser5543
[23:10] <basketball> !offtopic | bowser5543
[23:10] <HERM3S> anyone good with driver issues?
[23:10] <basketball> HERM3S:  me kinda what you need
[23:10] <HERM3S> well...
[23:10] <HERM3S> I need the nvidia-331 driver... and bumblebee likes to take a crap on it
[23:11] <bowser5543> yeah.. thanks for the help. (disconnecting..)
[23:11] <HERM3S> I installed nvidia-331 and purged bumblebee
[23:11] <HERM3S> and that helped my two monitors (on a gts250)
[23:11] <HERM3S> but now the TV is a blank screen with an "x" as the mouse icon
[23:12] <HERM3S> two cards -  GTS250 and a GT 520
[23:12] <umib0zu> hitsujiTMO, thanks for you help by the way with the /boot. I didn't realize I really had to delete the img files since those are the largest
[23:12] <HERM3S> GTS 250 feeds two 25" monitors
[23:12] <HERM3S> GT 520 feed a 55" TV
[23:13] <HERM3S> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2210394
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: np at all
[23:14] <umib0zu> are stable releases for ubuntu .04's or .10's?
[23:14] <basketball> HERM3S:  is that your question
[23:14] <HERM3S> yes
[23:14] <basketball> umib0zu:  both
[23:14] <HERM3S> i've let it simmer for the day... couldn't seem to lure in an expert yet
[23:14] <basketball> umib0zu:  .04 is april and .10 is october
[23:14] <umib0zu> well sorry. are LTS .04 or .10?
[23:14] <basketball> HERM3S:  let me take a look at it
[23:14] <HERM3S> appreciate it basketball
[23:15] <umib0zu> last time I checked I think 12.04 was LTS
[23:15] <somsip> umib0zu: 12.04 and next is 14.04
[23:15] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: lts is typically an .04 release every even year
[23:16] <AlanBell> HERM3S: tried asking in #ubuntu-x?
[23:16] <HERM3S> negative
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> umib0zu: only one that never followed tht rule was 6.06 as it was release 2 months late
[23:16] <basketball> HERM3S:  im not sure about that one
[23:16] <umib0zu> ok
[23:17] <AlanBell> might be a good place to ask, during UK or US office hours mostly I think
[23:17] <GeekDude> AlanBell: mtr display mode 2 seems pretty nice. What does ">" stand for? "?" is missing/dropped packet, seemingly
[23:17] <HERM3S> thanks basketball  and AlanBell  - i'll check into it
[23:20] <magicflakes> ahh I can't seem to get the ppa for this one
[23:20] <magicflakes> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxml2/2.9.0+dfsg1-4ubuntu4.1
[23:20] <basketball> magicflakes:  what do you mean
[23:21] <AlanBell> GeekDude: good question, I can't figure that out either
[23:21] <magicflakes> how can I add that to my source packages? I'm still new to ubuntu.
[23:23] <magicflakes> I mean I'm not sure what repository does it belong or the name of the repository.
[23:23] <Hal_Jay> Hello this is Hal Jay from WBAP 820AM and I'm here to tell you about my great friend Charlie Gilchrist and Southwest Mitsubishi in Weatherford. He has the latest Mitsubishi in stock, like the new Mitsubishi Lancer. Stop by today to get the great deals on these vehicles, with special financing/leasing options avaliable. If you want to pay more that's your business, if you want to pay less that is Charlie Gilchrist & Southwest Mitsubishi's business.
[23:24] <HackerII> ride a horse
[23:25] <CarlFK> magicflakes: from what I can tell, that is in the raring repo
[23:25] <OerHeks> magicflakes, libxml2 is at 2.9.0+dfsg1-4ubuntu4.3 (raring) 2 points higher
[23:25] <OerHeks> !info libxml2 raring
[23:26] <magicflakes> how do I add raring ppa? im currently using 12.04 LTS
[23:26] <Hal_Jay> Hello this is Hal Jay from WBAP 820AM and I'm here to tell you about my great friend Charlie Gilchrist and Southwest Ford in Weatherford. He has all the latest Fords in stock, whether it be sedans or trucks or SUVs. Stop by today to get the great deals on these vehicles, with special financing and leasing options avaliable. If you want to pay more that's your business, if you want to pay less that is Charlie Gilchrist and Southwest Ford's business.
[23:27] <CarlFK> magicflakes: raring isn't a ppa - it is a ubuntu release
[23:27] <magicflakes> I need to re install the libxml2 for precise I guess but currently the one installed is from raring.
[23:28] <OerHeks> Hal_Jay, please don't spam
[23:28] <magicflakes> Or at least downgrade libxml2
[23:29] <basketball> magicflakes:  im sorrty what was your question
[23:30] <magicflakes> basketball: how to downgrade libxml2 2.9 to libxml2 2.7.8?
[23:30] <usr13> magicflakes: So what version do you have now?  (And on what version of Ubuntu?)
[23:30] <Hal_Jay> Hello this is Hal Jay from WBAP 820AM and I'm here to tell you about my great friend Charlie Gilchrist and Southwest Mitsubishi in Weatherford. He has the latest Mitsubishi in stock, like the new Mitsubishi Lancer. Stop by today to get the great deals on these vehicles, with special financing/leasing options avaliable. If you want to pay more that's your business, if you want to pay less that is Charlie Gilchrist & Southwest Mitsubishi's business.
[23:30] <basketball> !spam | Hal_Jay
[23:30] <usr13> magicflakes: Sorry... misread your post.
[23:31] <basketball> usr13:  can i do this one
[23:31] <magicflakes> I have libxml2 2.9 on precise. And I'm not sure where I got that. Maybe I did some upgrade before.
[23:31] <usr13> basketball: Yes
[23:31] <basketball> thank usr13
[23:32] <usr13> magicflakes: Probably should be 2.7.8
[23:32] <magicflakes> Yes that is right.
[23:32] <OerHeks> magicflakes, maybe you have enabled backports or/and proposed
[23:32] <magicflakes> let me check
[23:32] <magicflakes> yes I have enabled it
[23:33] <basketball> ok OerHeks  take over
[23:33] <basketball> thats ok
[23:33] <usr13> magicflakes: There's your problem.
[23:33] <magicflakes> I'll just uncheck this one?
[23:33] <usr13> And do sudo apt-get clean
[23:34] <OerHeks> i would not say problem, why do you want to downgrade? disabling those sources does not reverse packages AFAIK
[23:34] <usr13> magicflakes: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:35] <magicflakes> okay
[23:35] <usr13> magicflakes: As OerHeks suggests, it may be impossible to repair the damage.
[23:35] <magicflakes> I have to install libxml2-dev but
[23:36] <magicflakes>   Depends: libxml2 (=2.7.8.dfsg-5.1ubuntu4.6) but 2.9.0+dfsg1-4ubuntu4 is to be installed
[23:37] <Hal_Jay> Hello this is Hal Jay from WBAP 820AM and I'm here to tell you about my great friend Charlie Gilchrist and Southwest Mitsubishi in Weatherford. He has the latest Mitsubishi in stock, like the new Mitsubishi Lancer. Stop by today to get the great deals on these vehicles, with special financing/leasing options avaliable. If you want to pay more that's your business, if you want to pay less that is Charlie Gilchrist & Southwest Mitsubishi's business.
[23:37] <magicflakes> too bad. so I have to reformat and re install again?
[23:38] <brady> What is the name of the service tool that Ubuntu currently uses? Is it upstart?
[23:38] <somsip> !upstart | brady
[23:38] <xiconet> Anybody here?
[23:39] <dusf123> i have created two variables, $TIME and $DATE. they work fine but even though i have done an 'export TIME' and 'export DATE' if i relog the variables are lost. can anyone tell me why?
[23:39] <melt7777> hey guys, i customized my plymouth theme, and it works great on shutdown but still shows the default on boot.... i changed /etc/alternatives/default.plymouth to my themes plymouth file.... any ideas?
[23:39] <krytarik> magicflakes: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall libxml2" - at least to fix this one.
[23:40] <magicflakes> krytarik: Reinstallation of libxml2 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[23:40] <Hal_Jay> Hello this is Hal Jay from WBAP 820AM and I'm here to tell you about my great friend Charlie Gilchrist and Southwest Mitsubishi in Weatherford. He has the latest Mitsubishi in stock, like the new Mitsubishi Lancer. Stop by today to get the great deals on these vehicles, with special financing/leasing options avaliable. If you want to pay more that's your business, if you want to pay less that is Charlie Gilchrist & Southwest Mitsubishi's business.
[23:41] <somsip> !ops | Hal_Jay (repeated spam)
[23:41] <melt7777> hal_jay, piss off
[23:41] <HERM3S> ^
[23:42] <HERM3S> this.
[23:42] <basketballl> How do i add the keyboard modifier state applet to the panel in Unity?
[23:43] <dusf123> i have created two variables, $TIME and $DATE. they work fine but even though i have done an 'export TIME' and 'export DATE' if i relog the variables are lost. can anyone tell me why?
[23:43] <freshmint> hey is there anyway to enable save unity sessions on logout, that when you log back in it automatically restores all windows which have been left open under the previous session - im really missing that
[23:43] <Hal_Jay> Hello this is Hal Jay from WBAP 820AM and I'm here to tell you about my great friend Charlie Gilchrist and Southwest Mitsubishi in Weatherford. He has the latest Mitsubishi in stock, like the new Mitsubishi Lancer. Stop by today to get the great deals on these vehicles, with special financing/leasing options avaliable. If you want to pay more that's your business, if you want to pay less that is Charlie Gilchrist & Southwest Mitsubishi's business.
[23:44] <ORA> HELLO
[23:45] <melt7777> !ops | Hal_Jay spam over and over, multiple channels
[23:47] <melt7777> thanks
[23:48] <dusf123> i have created two variables, $TIME and $DATE. they work fine but even though i have done an 'export TIME' and 'export DATE' if i relog the variables are lost. can anyone tell me why?
[23:50] <dura-zell> Hi! I have a problem with a freshly installed machine. I'm trying to install 12.04.3 from an ISO I downloaded today. unfortunatly this doesn't work like intended. Currently it looks like this: Install -> reboot -> do something and shutdown / reboot -> system hangs and refuses to boot. Can someone advise me please on how to get this thing working?
[23:50] <Beldar> dusf123, Channel asks for 10 min between repeating.
[23:51] <Beldar> dura-zell, That info is moot it is not detailed.
[23:53] <Beldar> dura-zell, what does this actually mean "Hi! I have a problem with a freshly installed machine. I'm trying to install 12.04.3 from an ISO I downloaded today"?
[23:54] <dura-zell> didn't my text apear correctly? sorry. it was longer when I typed it
[23:54] <dura-zell> the machine does only reboot once
[23:54] <somsip> !nomodeset | dura-zell (may be what you need)
[23:54] <dura-zell> after the next reboot (or boot after shutdown) it hangs
[23:55] <dura-zell> i tried nomodeset (and removed splash and quiet parameters).