[02:03] <tritoch> how can i search through installed packages with apt-get
[02:03] <avis> tritoch, sudo apt-cache search
[02:03] <tritoch> that's not installed
[02:03] <tritoch> that's available
[02:03] <GvX> apt-get it then
[02:03] <Pici> tritoch: apt-cache search
[02:03] <tritoch> :/
[02:04] <Pici> tritoch: er, I misread.
[02:04] <tritoch> pici, avis: apt-cache seems to be only AVAILABLE packages whereas i'm looking for INSTALLED
[02:04] <kauer> Whis2: Sorry, I seem to be missing a link in the chain here. VNC offers control of a desktop. A desktop does not exist until you have logged in. What are you controlling after you have logged in via ssh and started the VNC server?  The KDM login screen?
[02:04] <empty> can some one help me? private chat.. i need clear instruction
[02:04] <Don64> tritoch: synoptic has that option
[02:04] <tritoch> i need it via command line
[02:04] <kauer> kauer: Whiz2: Sorry, I seem to be missing a link in the chain here. VNC offers control of a desktop. A desktop does not exist until you have logged in. What are you controlling after you have logged in via ssh and started the VNC server?  The KDM login screen?
[02:04] <EvaLuaTe> how can i see group ownership of files using command-line ?
[02:04] <Don64> soorry
[02:04] <Pici> tritoch: dpkg -l
[02:04] <GvX> ll
[02:05] <GvX> :o
[02:05] <GvX> wrong one
[02:05] <Pici> EvaLuaTe: ls -l
[02:05] <tritoch> pici: thanks
[02:05] <jan__> hi there
[02:05] <Jordan_U> Whiz2, I could have sworn you could enable automatic login in Dapper with System -> Administration -> Login Window
[02:05] <jan__> is there like a  way to let synaptic package manager show to a regular user ?
[02:06] <GvX> so no ideas on the keybinding problem?
[02:06] <EvaLuaTe> Pici, i mean all files, not just for the current user
[02:06] <jan__> that's not in the adm group
[02:06] <kauer> Jordan_U: Maybe he means System->Preferences->Remote desktop :-)
[02:06] <Whiz2> kauer: when the computer starts, it sits at the KDE login screen which would in turn, log me into the KDE desktop... Instead of logging into the KDE desktop, I SSH into the machine (providing a console) login to my user there, and run the command vncserver -geometry 1024x768 this creates an X session (Because X itself is already running) and logs that session into KDE
[02:06] <shiznix`> ok
[02:07] <Pici> EvaLuaTe: Ah. find /path -group groupname
[02:07] <Jordan_U> tritium, Grep through dpkg -l
[02:07] <GvX> I know reposting is bad news, but... "i have just reconfigured X to use fglrx but in doing so the key mapping changed. i've set it back to a uk keymap now, but sudo/passwd etc... won't authenticate :("
[02:07] <Jordan_U> jan__, Yes, but they won't be able to install or change anything
[02:07] <Pici> GvX: Be patient.  Its a tough problem.  Might want to wait a bit and ask your question again or also ask it in ##linux
[02:08] <sow1> where can I check to see if there's any open bugs re: the new "Screens and Graphics" feature? I just installed Gutsy Gibbon Tribe 5 but it looks like its not quite working yet
[02:08] <ziggy_> So Jordan_u do you think its to much work to start jumping into  Compiz Fusion
[02:08] <faileas> Whiz2: you need to log in via GUI remotely?
[02:08] <anto> when i use my S-Video output for my TV box it only works untill i reach the login panel, how to i enable it after that??
[02:08] <EvaLuaTe> umm, what again Pici, sorry but i'm not very experienced with linux =)
[02:08] <Jordan_U> ziggy, Yes
[02:08] <RJ_BR> helllllllp, I need a clue to delete this file. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34880/ ... anyone?
[02:08] <Whiz2> faileas: yes, because I don't have a monitor for that system
[02:08] <faileas> Whiz2: how about freenx?
[02:09] <ziggy_> then what do you suggest i do ? because it seems to me you know what your doing
[02:09] <Louzada> hi
[02:09] <Whiz2> faileas: vncserver works just fine!
[02:09] <faileas> lets you log in from a windows or linux system, straight to a X desktop
[02:09] <TheMafia> If I install ubuntu on a old fedora machine that has a raid 0 array will ubuntu be able to mount and retrieve the data after the install?  i will not install ubuntu on the raid0 array at all
[02:09] <faileas> Whiz2: you'd have to be logged on and have a session running for VNCserver
[02:09] <Whiz2> faileas: that is exactly what vncserver does
[02:09] <Pici> EvaLuaTe: Okay.  find has an argument to search for files by group owner.  So, if you wanted to find all files owned by group 'Pici' you could do: sudo find / -group Pici
[02:09] <Whiz2> no
[02:09] <Whiz2> i don't
[02:09] <Jordan_U> RJ_BR, Why are you trying to delete that file?
[02:09] <Whiz2> vncserver can run before KDE logs in
[02:09] <Whiz2> trust me on this
[02:09] <faileas> Whiz2: freenx works somewhat like SSH, but graphical.
[02:10] <reizend> RJ_BR: I hate to sound like a windows technician, but have you tried a reboot
[02:10] <Whiz2> you're not getting me
[02:10] <RJ_BR> Jordan_U: because it might solve my problem with synaptic
[02:10] <Whiz2> I'm happy with vnc
[02:10] <Whiz2> the only trouble I have is getting it to execute when X server starts
[02:10] <faileas> Whiz2: then... whats the problem again? (getting distracted by my dog ><)
[02:10] <Whiz2> automatically
[02:10] <slim> RJ_BR:-  Right click on it and check the properties - permission first
[02:10] <Whiz2> vncserver won't start automatically when X starts
[02:10] <Pici> RJ_BR: sudo apt-get clean shoudl automatically clean out the apt cache.
[02:10] <faileas> Whiz2: it shouldn't
[02:10] <Jordan_U> RJ_BR, I seriously doubt it, are you still getting the same error about another package manager being open?
[02:11] <Whiz2> there has to be a way
[02:11] <faileas> it would be a security risk
[02:11] <avis> Whiz2, i execute commands through gnome-session though it only starts it after a login
[02:11] <faileas> freenx= GUI X client over SSH. seemless, works damn well. *and* starts when X starts.
[02:11] <Whiz2> faileas: if it's a security risk, then it would be just as much of a security risk to run vncserver to begin with
[02:11] <Whiz2> no
[02:12] <Whiz2> i'm not switching
[02:12] <reizend> Whiz2: is it an option under System -> Administration -> Services?
[02:12] <Jordan_U> RJ_BR, That file should not be deleted, why do you think deleting it will help?
[02:12] <faileas> Whiz2: yup, thats why they suggest ALWAYS tunneling VNC over SSH if possible
[02:12] <Jordan_U> RJ_BR, Are you still getting the same error about another package manager being open?
[02:12] <Whiz2> that is how i start it... by tunneling in, and running it'scommand manually
[02:12] <kauer> Whiz2: Ah, I see! Well, it may not be quite the solution you are expecting but how about this: Write a script on your local machine that logs in and runs the server in a single step. Run that script from a launcher button on your local machine. One click gets you in, with no need to (very insecurely) autolaunch vncserver on the remote. I'm not sure whether vncserver autodetaches, but if it *doesn't*, then the vncserver session will die with ssh, which would b
[02:13] <Whiz2> kauer: not possible
[02:13] <Jordan_U> Whiz2, Starting it via ssh and tunneling it via ssh are not the same
[02:13] <kauer> whiz2: ?!? why not possible?
[02:13] <Whiz2> i don't wanna tunnel it
[02:13] <Whiz2> kauer: because the vncserver itself HAS to be running on the remote machine, before I can even use it
[02:14] <Whiz2> vncserver is a program
[02:14] <slim> Want to edit gdesklets-FTB-net-gauge. Anyone know why sudo gedit won't work?
[02:14] <Whiz2> that must be running, before I can remotely access my desktop
[02:14] <RJ_BR> sudo apt-get clean  couldnt work :( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34881/
[02:14] <Jordan_U> RJ_BR, That file should not be deleted, why do you think deleting it will help?
[02:14] <Pici> Whiz2: This may work. Use BUM to setup a vncserver daemon that runs after gdm launches and have it attach to that display.
[02:14] <Jordan_U> RJ_BR, Are you still getting the same error about another package manager being open?
[02:15] <Whiz2> i use vncserver on every single computer in my network, and kubuntu is theonlymachine that does not start it automatically
[02:15] <Whiz2> i don't want a desktop running first
[02:15] <kauer> Whiz2: You click on your launcher. The launcher just does what you say you do now manually - it logs into the remote machine and starts vncserver. If you use ssh-agent and passphrases, you won't even have to enter a password. Then you do whatever you would normally do to start up the viewer on your local machine... I get the feeling we are not on the same page here...
[02:15] <pascla> who had used anjuta? does the debug function work?
[02:15] <Whiz2> i use PuTTy to ssh into the machine
[02:16] <Whiz2> i want it to run on boot
[02:16] <Whiz2> that is what I want
[02:16] <Whiz2> :-p
[02:16] <RJ_BR> apt-get install give me the same bug message
[02:16] <kauer> Whiz2: Oooooh - you are using Windows as the client! Then it's your own silly fault :-) Can't help you.
[02:16] <Pici> Whiz2: Can you please prefix your reponses with our names, so we know who you are responding to.
[02:16] <Jordan_U> RJ_BR, What message?
[02:16] <Pici> Whiz2: Did you look at my suggestion?
[02:17] <reizend> Whiz2: do get it to start during the boot process you can make a script that launches it and put that script into /etc/rc5.d/ if you look there you will see other bootup items with S## in front of it which determines order, so a script named S99VNC would start last. Someone can correct me if I am wrong on this
[02:17] <RJ_BR> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:17] <Pici> RJ_BR: Do you have any other package managers open?
[02:17] <Whiz2> Pici: what was it? i know I saw it, but can't remember
[02:17] <Jordan_U> RJ_BR, Have you rebooted?
[02:18] <Pici> Whiz2: This may work. Use BUM to setup a vncserver daemon that runs after gdm launches and have it attach to that display.
[02:18] <RJ_BR> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[02:18] <Pici> RJ_BR: You are trying to run this as sudo, right?
[02:18] <Whiz2> reizend: it has to start after KDM launches
[02:18] <Jordan_U> RJ_BR, Have you rebooted?
[02:18] <Whiz2> reizend: and X
[02:18] <Whiz2> Pici: that would require the desktop to launch first
[02:19] <Pici> Whiz2: Why?
[02:19] <reizend> Whiz2: kdm is an item in that directory
[02:19] <Pici> Whiz2: No it wouldnt.
[02:19] <sow1> how do you check the build/version you are running?
[02:19] <Pici> !version | sow1
[02:19] <ubotu> sow1: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[02:19] <Jordan_U> RJ_BR, I think I have the command you need but you need to answer my questions so I can be sure it won't screw anything up
[02:19] <Whiz2> Pici: i use KDM, not GDM
[02:19] <RJ_BR> yes I runned as sudo
[02:19] <Pici> Whiz2: Same thing essentially.
[02:19] <pascla> had anyone ever used anjuta?
[02:19] <RJ_BR> E: Could not open file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:19] <Whiz2> Pici: would that load it when X started?
[02:20] <RJ_BR> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[02:20] <Jordan_U> RJ_BR, Have you rebooted so that you are absolutely sure that all package managers have quit?
[02:20] <RJ_BR> I'll reboot !!!!!
[02:20] <ziggy__> Is there such thing as a system restore so i can go back a day ???
[02:20] <Jordan_U> ziggy, No
[02:20] <ziggy__> :(
[02:20] <RJ_BR> let's see if a reboot fix the problem
[02:21] <ziggy__> alrighty brb
[02:21] <Pici> Whiz2: You'd have to put it in after x and kdm are started. But yes.
[02:21] <slim> Is that what the sessions option is for
[02:21] <Whiz2> reizend & Pici:this is all just confusing,because I dunno how to do any of this :-p
[02:22] <Whiz2> reizend & Pici: I've been trying to get vncserver to run at boot timesince February
[02:22] <Pici> !boot | Whiz2 take a look at this for help
[02:22] <ubotu> Whiz2 take a look at this for help: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:23] <Whiz2> Pici: adding it to rc.local has no effect whatsoever
[02:23] <slim> ubotu is wise
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is wise - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <Pici> Whiz2: I thought there would be more information there about using bum. Thats the easiest way of adding a startup service.
[02:24] <Pici> Whiz2: Bootup service rather.
[02:24] <Jordan_U> RJ_BR, If it still doesn't work after the reboot run "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[02:25] <Whiz2> Pici: it is a startup... it would literally be the last thing executed
[02:25] <adrian_m> Are there any known problems with the package repositories, currently ?   I've just installed xubuntu (out of cdrom)  and  i'm getting failures when trying to update the list of packages from the net.
[02:26] <Pici> Whiz2: Well, I just meant that startup scripts usally refer to the things that get executed after you login, which is not what you want.
[02:26] <empty> can anyone help me in partitioning internal hard disk drive??
[02:26] <Whiz2> Pici: right... vncserver logs me into my desktop for me once I execute it
[02:26] <Whiz2> Pici
[02:27] <Whiz2> Pici: then all I have to do is use the client to login to VNC after it's been executed, and I'm presented with my KDE desktop :-D
[02:27] <Pici> Whiz2: Hopefully.
[02:28] <kauer> Whiz2: This is the short, short version: In the directory /etc/rc3.d you will see a link like "S13gdm". The other links in that directory have names like "S20apmd" and "S10acpid". These links point to scripts in /etc/init.d - "S13gdm" points to /etc/init.d/gdm, which is the GDM startup script. The scripts in /etc/rc3.d are run in numeric order, so "S13gdm" happens after "S10acpid" but before "S20apmd". All you need to do to have something load after GDM is to
[02:28] <empty> can anyone help me in partitioning internal hard disk drive??
[02:28] <slim> empty:- what do you need to know. I may be able to help
[02:28] <empty> i need to partition my sda2
[02:28] <Whiz2> kauer
[02:28] <SlimeyPete> empty: use gparted
[02:28] <kauer> Yes, Whiz2?
[02:29] <empty> i used gparted to delete and format it to ext3
[02:29] <Whiz2> kauer: i have a script for it sitting in my init.d.................... This might work!
[02:29] <slim> empty:- To do what? There are many options
[02:29] <empty> but then it does not auto-mount
[02:29] <Jordan_U> Whiz2, If all else fails just ssh -X in and run kde-session ( X is available for windows with cygwin, and x forewarding is a *LOT* faster than vnc anyways )
[02:30] <Whiz2> kauer: i would just have to make it the highest number?
[02:30] <empty> it will mount as /media/disk only when I enter gparted again
[02:30] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: vnc works perfectly fine, and is not slow
[02:30] <SlimeyPete> !fstab
[02:30] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:30] <dicon> there is any way to improve upgrade speed?
[02:30] <dicon> 20kb/s is too low
[02:30] <dicon> :(
[02:31] <empty> fstab how do i edit it? through the web site?
[02:31] <kauer> Whiz2: As long as the number is higher than GDM's number, it will start after GDM. The numbers don';t have to be unique, but all progs with the same number will start "at the same time" i.e., in an undefined order.
[02:31] <SlimeyPete> empty: fstab is a file on your hard disk, it's in /etc
[02:31] <SlimeyPete> !mount
[02:31] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:31] <SlimeyPete> !diskmounter
[02:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:32] <Whiz2> kauer: rc3.d? there are higher folder numbers... KDM is the one I'mlooking for.. not GDM
[02:32] <empty> ok.. then what do? edit the file?
[02:32] <SlimeyPete> empty: yeah.
[02:32] <SlimeyPete> !fstab
[02:32] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:33] <jan__> !gnome menu
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome menu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <SlimeyPete> ^^ take a look at that website
[02:33] <empty> ok gonna try it.. thx i will tell u the result
[02:34] <Whiz2> kauer: there is a link to my program in rc3.d but the number is low...KDM's number is 99... can i go any higher than 99?
[02:34] <RJ_BR> Iam back
[02:35] <kauer> Whiz2: KDM is GDM for KDE, same thing more or less. Wherever there's a KDM link, put in a vncserver link. You'll see K-links in there as well - where there is a Knnkdm link, put in a Knnvncserver link. Lower K numbers get killed first, just as lower S numbers get started first, so your vncserver kill script link should have a LOWER number than your KDM kill script link. No, you can't go higher than 99 as far as I know. Try it. Alternatively, just rename the K
[02:35] <Julius-GutsyTest> hello
[02:35] <Julius-GutsyTest> Is there somewhere a channel where we can talk about Gutsy testing ?
[02:35] <kauer> Whiz2: Knnkdm = K :-)
[02:35] <Whiz2> kauer:and can i just rename the links,or do I have to do something special?
[02:36] <Don64> #ubuntu+1
[02:37] <kauer> Whiiz2. Just use mv to rename them. It is safest to first change into the appropriate directory, otherwise you have to provide the full path to source and target names and may accidentally move the link out of the directory.
[02:37] <Don64> Julius-GutsyTest: #ubuntu+1
[02:37] <Julius-GutsyTest> thanks
[02:37] <Whiz2> kauer: I'mlogged into konqueror as root... i'm just going there, and using the rename option ;-)
[02:37] <kauer> Whiz2:Knnkdm = K + 2 digits + kdm, I meant.
[02:38] <kauer> Whiz2: Check the result in a terminal window, then.
[02:38] <Whiz2> kauer: I'll have to reboot thePC in order to see if it's successful
[02:40] <RJ_BR> bad news for me, after reboot the sudo apt-get anything still dont work nor synaptic.  :'(
[02:40] <avis> anyone know where amarok stores its configuration files and how to purge my sql-lite database of data ?
[02:40] <kauer> Whiz2: NO!
[02:41] <avis> RJ_BR, can you ping an address on the internet ?
[02:41] <z3r0ph3wl> hej
[02:41] <RJ_BR> is this related to the fact that Iam using a flash drive install??
[02:42] <Whiz2> kauer: if there's thatmuch risk,i'm just not gonna do it
[02:42] <ben_underscore> avis: in .amarok??
[02:42] <z3r0ph3wl> does ubuntu 7.04 server at install time lets to choose to install X and Gnome?
[02:42] <Whiz2> kauer: I'mlogged into konqueror as root using the rename option (same thing as renaming in console)
[02:42] <ben_underscore> z3r0ph3wl: no
[02:43] <avis> ben_underscore, that is strange that is non-existant for me
[02:43] <kauer> Whiz2: Sorry, I misunderstood you. Those renames are not dangerous - absolute worst case kde wouldn't start. Go for it.
[02:43] <RJ_BR> avis: yes, Iam able to ping addresses on internet
[02:43] <avis> ben_underscore, i found it.  its somewhere in ~/.kde/share/config
[02:44] <avis> RJ_BR, did you issue a sudo apt-get update before doing a sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[02:44] <ben_underscore> avis: yes i forgot it's a kde app so it'd all be in there
[02:44] <kauer> whiz2: And if KDE didn't start you'd just reverse the rename and be back where you started. I was only suggesting checking ina  awindow because I don't ttrust file managers for system stuff.
[02:44] <avis> RJ_BR, also does sudo apt-get update give you any usual errors ?
[02:44] <Whiz2> kauer: in rc1.d there are 2 links to my script...should I delete one? that are both k##scriptname and both are higher numbered than KDM
[02:45] <RJ_BR> sudo apt-get update give me E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[02:45] <ben_underscore> i've just installed php / apache / mediawiki, but when i try to access a php file it serves me the file itself rather than interpreting it in apache ... what am i missing? i restarted apache after install btw
[02:45] <Pici> Whiz2: Anything that starts with K## are kill scripts, i.e. the order to kill things when you drop runlevels and reboot/halt/etc
[02:45] <faileas> sounds like PHP isn't configured properly
[02:45] <m4c13x> re
[02:45] <RJ_BR> !
[02:46] <Whiz2> kauer: file managers is how I've done 99% of all the work I've done in kubuntu thus far ;-)
[02:46] <milkcan> can someone help me to download illegal warez version of ubuntu
[02:46] <faileas> hmm
[02:46] <kauer> Whiz2: What are the "two scripts" in rc1.d called?
[02:46] <Pici> !piracy | milkcan
[02:46] <ubotu> milkcan: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[02:46] <Pici> milkcan: Ubuntu is Free and always will be Free.
[02:47] <brutopia> vai ett waretsia pitisi saada
[02:47] <milkcan> but
[02:47] <kauer> milkcan: since ubuntu is free, it's hard to pirate it... in fact, we urge you to take copies and give them away!
[02:47] <milkcan> b-but
[02:47] <Whiz2> kauer: k20vncserver.local and k50vncserver.local (and it was actually rc0.d my bad)
[02:47] <Pici> brutopia: language?
[02:47] <SyrussScaleskin> Hey
[02:48] <Whiz2> kauer: honestly... should i only worry about rc3.d?
[02:49] <kauer> Whiz2: I'd leave them alone, for the simple reasonthat I don't know why they are there, or who put them there. Since they are numbered higher than KDM, they will run AFTER KDM has been killed... actually, could you please paste the output of "ls -la" in that directory to the pastebin?
[02:49] <milkcan> kauer  hello i would like to obtain some information about your penis?
[02:49] <kauer> Whiz2: I think rc3.d would be enough to see if it works, yes.
[02:49] <Pici> !ops | milkcan
[02:49] <ubotu> milkcan: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[02:50] <Pici> gnomefreak: ty.
[02:50] <domenico> ciao a tutti
[02:51] <YouTuber> Just did a screen record on ubuntu!
[02:51] <lassegul> YouTuber: it worked?
[02:51] <YouTuber> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fscqJP2U0kg
[02:51] <YouTuber> It did
[02:51] <domenico> there is one who help me ?
[02:51] <Pici> !ask | domenico
[02:51] <ubotu> domenico: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:51] <Whiz2> kauer: the script itself runs the command su - jason -c "vncserver -geometry 1024x768"
[02:51] <domenico> ok
[02:52] <domenico> xmame is my problem
[02:52] <riniver> is there no firewall for ubuntu that pops up accept/reject warnings when something tries to access the itnernet?
[02:52] <Whiz2> kauer: as requested... http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39158
[02:52] <Whiz2> kauer: err...nevermind!
[02:53] <kauer> Whiz2: careful. Generally the script is structured to accept command line arguments "start" stop" restart" etc. When run as a K-link, the script is passed "stop", when run as an S-link the script is passed "start".
[02:53] <lassegul> YouTuber: i think your link was wrong
[02:53] <domenico> i want to install XMAME
[02:53] <domenico> but there are many problem
[02:53] <Whiz2> kauer: vncserver doesn't accept start/stopsin it's command line
[02:53] <GNine> i use ubuntu.  do i still need these 3 new kde updates?
[02:54] <bittin> GNine: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[02:54] <GNine> Ubuntu
[02:54] <bittin> GNine: Depends off how much u use KDE then but always good to update :>
[02:54] <mycael_mitch> where can i get a 32 BIt version? of ubuntu
[02:54] <GNine> i know kde is about kubuntu but i just got the notification for these kde updates
[02:54] <kauer> Whiz2: Not vncserver - the script that runs it i.e., /etc/init.d/vncserver. If run with "start" it will start it, if run with "stop" it will stop it etc.
[02:54] <RJ_BR> Iam sad with this stuff you know people... my ubunty pocket system was working so ok... now this... as a programmer I refuse to sit and cry :-D
[02:55] <CyberMadz> do i correct? if i want to share a print something like this \\compnameorIP\shared_printer  use samba?
[02:55] <Whiz2> kauer: honnestly, I just wantit to run as if i typed it on the command line
[02:55] <kostkon> GNine, do you use any kde application, like ktorrent?
[02:55] <Morphera> Hey, anyone got any suggestions on getting a Unichrome Pro IGP chipset to work correctly with ubuntu?
[02:55] <bittin> mycael_mitch: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[02:55] <GNine> nah
[02:55] <CyberMadz> so i just need google about how to share printer with samba?
[02:55] <GNine> nothing k here
[02:55] <Pici> !printing | CyberMadz
[02:55] <bittin> !printing CyberMadz
[02:55] <mycael_mitch> bittin:  i did that but when i went to install it said i should get the 32bit
[02:55] <kostkon> GNine, you must have installed something that installed also the kde libs in your system, that's why you get the updates, I believe
[02:56] <ubotu> CyberMadz: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:56] <Whiz2> kauer: all the links whether S or K point to the exact same script! can you give me the correct command to put in the script then?
[02:56] <kauer> Whiz2: Eventually, that will happen :-)
[02:56] <CyberMadz> thanks a lot.. i will check the last link
[02:56] <GNine> i dont mind tho.. but i have the idea that updates should be more version specific
[02:56] <GNine> ok.. that sounds like a possibility
[02:57] <kauer> Whiz2: Yes, the links all point to the same script, /etc/init.d/vncserver. Whatthe link is called determines how that one script will be called - whether with "start" or "stop".
[02:57] <kostkon> GNine, there are, I mean you may have the kde libs in your system, not the whole of kde
[02:57] <cristi01> pici: how do i setup direct opengl rendering
[02:57] <cristi01> ?
[02:57] <kostkon> GNine, they are*
[02:57] <Pici> cristi01: Depends on your video card.
[02:57] <GNine> roger that
[02:57] <kauer> Whiz2: Paste the contents of /etc/init.d/vncserver to the pastebin... let me check it out.
[02:57] <domenico> there is one who speak italian ?
[02:57] <Whiz2> that script is one line ;-)
[02:57] <GNine> thing is i cant tell which kde stuff i got
[02:57] <GNine> lol
[02:57] <faileas> !it | domenico
[02:57] <cristi01> Pici: i can't find the ubuntu wiki page for this
[02:57] <ubotu> domenico: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:58] <CyberMadz> Pici i don't use this format: http://<hostname>:631/printers/<printername>
[02:58] <Whiz2> kauer: that script is one line
[02:58] <kauer> Whiz2: Did you write it?
[02:58] <GNine> or what
[02:58] <domenico> tnk's
[02:58] <Whiz2> kauer: yes
[02:58] <cristi01> Pici: you gave a link to me (SliMM) several days ago
[02:58] <Pici> cristi01: What kind of video card do you have?
[02:58] <Whiz2> kauer: su - jason -c "vncserver -geometry 1024x768"
[02:58] <cristi01> Pici: onboard nvidia
[02:58] <Pici> !nvidia | cristi01
[02:58] <ubotu> cristi01: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:58] <CyberMadz> Pici how to share printer with this format:  \\<IP_ADDRESS>\printer_name
[02:59] <alexnicol> what program can I use to batch create thumbnails
[02:59] <Whiz2> kauer: it has to run as me.it can't be allowed to run as root
[02:59] <kostkon> GNine, you must have installed something that uses qt and other kde libs. Just remember what packages/applications you have installed
[02:59] <SlimeyPete> alexnicol: might be worth checking for GIMP batch scripts
[02:59] <SlimeyPete> there's also imagemagick
[03:00] <SlimeyPete> if you prefer CLI
[03:00] <kauer> Whiz2: Oh.
[03:00] <GNine> i guess am gonna have to give synaptic a read
[03:00] <cristi01> Pici: it's an on-board card, it isn't detected by that command on that page
[03:00] <Whiz2> kauer: if it runs as root,I'm presented with a blank X desktop instead of myown desktop
[03:00] <kauer> Whiz2: KDE is run as root, but you want vncserver run as you, are you sure?
[03:00] <Whiz2> kauer: yes
[03:00] <kauer> WHIZ2 KDM, not KDE
[03:00] <Pici> CyberMadz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba#head-0501c5c431920681c11965c65d3d155c69f508f7
[03:01] <Whiz2> kauer: vnc
[03:01] <Pici> cristi01: I'm not sure then, perhaps someone else in the channel knows.
[03:01] <cristi01> pici: ok, thanks, the restricted drivers manager works this time
[03:01] <Whiz2> kauer: KDM/KDE can run as root. I don't care about how they run...but vncserver MUST run as me, or it will not function properly
[03:02] <Pici> cristi01: Good :)
[03:02] <kauer> Whiz2: Root can run stuff as other users, without a password, using su and sudo, so you can still start something from within the rcX.d structure as another user if you need to. Have you done much scripting? I get the feeling you haven't (no offence)
[03:03] <mycael_mitch> can u tell me some other distros
[03:03] <bittin> mycael_mitch: SuSE
[03:03] <avis> mycael_mitch, http://www.distrowatch.com
[03:03] <bittin> and if u wanna try Ubuntu, u can try the Alternate CD
[03:03] <Whiz2> kauer: no i haven't, but... if I type sudo vncserver -geometry 1024x768 then i am presented with a blank desktop... vncserver createsan X session for the user that executes it
[03:04] <mycael_mitch> avis:  on mac
[03:04] <mycael_mitch> avis: /
[03:04] <mycael_mitch> avis: ?
[03:04] <avis> mycael_mitch, http://www.distrowatch.com look for PPC if using powerpc processor or use intel if newer intel based mac
[03:04] <Whiz2> kauer: When i run it, i just type the command itself...no sudo before
[03:05] <ceil420> what's the lspci-type command to show hard drives? :x
[03:05] <GNine> yah.. i got some kde libs on my system but they were put there by default install .. not arbitrarily by me
[03:05] <Whiz2> kauer: i know i'm being a pain in the butt eh?
[03:05] <GNine> stuff to make possible a K switch
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> fdisk -l   "L"
[03:05] <kauer> Whiz2: Basically you neeed a simple script that takes a single parameter, "start" or "stop". If it sees "start" it should start vncserver using the command line you gave. If it sees "stop" it should kill the running vncserver. However, you can get away with a start-only script, i.e., one that ignores "stop", but then you should put it only in rc3.d. That should do. Does that sound like something you can have a stab at?
[03:06] <kostkon> GNine, they were installed automatically because some app depended on them, they are not by default in ubuntu
[03:06] <kauer> Whiz2: You'd start vncserver with sudo or su though, so it ran as you.
[03:06] <empty> slimey thank you.. manage to do it..  the hard disk is mounted.. XD
[03:06] <Whiz2> kauer: if you like, you can private message me, and i can give you the SSH tunnel info, my username, and password, and you can do it for me lol
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> GNine: or did you want to see the mount point etc?
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> oops
[03:06] <Whiz2> kauer: then i would just change my password after
[03:07] <ceil420> that doesn't show me anything
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ceil420: That was for you
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ceil420: Sudo
[03:07] <GNine> well.. they seem pretty straight forward.. like defoma , kde4c2a , kdedata etc
[03:07] <Whiz2> kauer: the most i can do is write a windows batch file lol
[03:07] <kauer> Whiz2: You might look at other Linux machines you administer - ifthey start vncserver automatically, they almost certainly do it like this. The other option is to read up on how KDM is configured, because KDM itself can run stuff as it starts.
[03:07] <ceil420> same result
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> One sec.
[03:08] <ceil420> oh, no "L"'s cool
[03:08] <Whiz2> kauer: the ones that run it automatically are allwindows machines. this is the only linux machine that I have, and it is a web server
[03:08] <kauer> Whiz2: That's too big a responsibility for a stranger, but if you want to I can have a look. I'm not familiar with IRC, so ytr a PM and I'll tell you if it worked ;-)
[03:08] <ceil420> sorta
[03:08] <kostkon> GNine, not need to care so much. You only get updates for packages you have installed in your system. That's why you got these 2-3 updates today, nothing to worry about
[03:08] <ceil420> i was kinda hopin' for drive model number and such, tho
[03:08] <GNine> i have installed/uninstalled some programs.. i guess they were not completely removed after all
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> ceil420: That should give you a full listing of drives and partitions
[03:08] <mycael_mitch> avis:  that website is hard to figuire out and there no filter.
[03:08] <mycael_mitch> avis:  any others
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> ceil420: Are you getting an error
[03:08] <Whiz2> kauer: did you get  my test PM?
[03:08] <ceil420> Jack_Sparrow, it doesn't say like "Western Digital" or anything tho
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> ceil420: Does it show partition and drive info
[03:09] <ceil420> just shows me the size of the disks and their partitions
[03:09] <kauer> Whiz2: Yes, did you see my reply?
[03:09] <ceil420> sectors 'n' whatnot
[03:09] <GNine> ok.. not so much worried .. just that i like keeping my files clean
[03:09] <avis> mycael_mitch, none that i know of though you can see a scale on your right hand side of the page of the most popular ones.  the most popular ones like ubuntu has the widest support base
[03:09] <Whiz2> kauer: no
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> ceil420: Thats what it does. You want it to show make and model?
[03:09] <ceil420> yeah that
[03:09] <kauer> Whiz2: PM me the details, I'll get them OK.
[03:10] <kostkon> GNine, ah ok, then try the a "sudo apt-get autoremove" maybe it will remove any unused packages
[03:10] <GNine> sweet
[03:10] <mycael_mitch> avis:  ubuntu doesn't  do a 32 bit intel
[03:10] <Whiz2> kauer: do you have an instant messenger? I'll PM you with my messenger ID and we can collaborate that way ;-)
[03:10] <avis> mycael_mitch, yes it does.  just your normal 32 bit ubuntu should work on mac with no problems
[03:10] <kauer> Whiz2: I don't know - very new to IRC :-) Suggest smething :-)
[03:10] <Whiz2> kauer: something like yahoo, orMSN messenger
[03:11] <mycael_mitch> avis:  i got the amd and inte one and on install it said i ned 32 bit
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> ceil420: That requires a different tool... Look at Hirens cd and see if it has a diagnostic on it that will do what you need.  It has all of those sorts of tools.
[03:11] <Pici> kauer: Whiz2, you two could join your own channel, like ##kaur
[03:11] <ceil420> that fdisk -l bit's groovie tho
[03:11] <Pici> kauer: or spelt correctly :p
[03:11] <ceil420> Jack_Sparrow, cheers
[03:11] <kauer> Whiz2: No. I'm using GAIM. I'll try something, wait....
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:11] <Whiz2> kauer: join me in #whiz2 lol
[03:11] <avis> mycael_mitch, there is a 32 bit intel ubuntu and i believe it should work fine on intel macs
[03:12] <kauer> Whiz2: Not very secure for a password exchange :-(
[03:12] <mycael_mitch> avis:  where/ whats the link?
[03:12] <GNine> 16 bit suicide.. cmon..
[03:12] <avis> mycael_mitch, you can find it on www.ubuntu.com under "get ubuntu"
[03:13] <tripitaka> just installed on a system with an nvidia graphics card, and I get 'fatal error: no screens found' when I start X. Any easy solutions? It's a Nvidia quadro 570M
[03:13] <slim> Trying to sort out a gdesklets issue but their pages seem dead. Can anyone offer help, pls?
[03:13] <mycael_mitch> avis:  there's 64 bit amd and intel but no 32
[03:13] <Whiz2> kauer: I PM'd it to you
[03:13] <jasiu> hello
[03:14] <kostkon> slim, why not try screenlets, they are much better
[03:14] <Whiz2> kauer: did you get it?
[03:14] <dark_harmonics> Tripitaka you need to define some setting in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:14] <avis> mycael_mitch, if you select ubuntu 7.04 and "standard personal computer" that will get the the 32-bit version for intel
[03:14] <dark_harmonics> you can configure x server manually by typing
[03:14] <dark_harmonics> dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg
[03:14] <tripitaka> that's a hectic file, is there an autoconfiguration utility?
[03:15] <tripitaka> ah, perfect thanks
[03:15] <dark_harmonics> lol
[03:15] <mycael_mitch> avis:  ok thanks. got the INtel version i will get it now.
[03:15] <dspstv> the installerCD i got, always go into graphical install, how can i install ubuntu withouth opening heavy gnome?
[03:15] <GNine> dont forget the sudo there dark_harmonics
[03:15] <dark_harmonics> yes GNine is right
[03:15] <avis> mycael_mitch, you will need to do alot of web reading to learn linux in the first place
[03:15] <mycael_mitch> avis:  like whats
[03:15] <dark_harmonics> you just need to get the NVIDIA driver from their website it has a pretty easy installer
[03:15] <dspstv> gnome eats all the memory...argg
[03:16] <slim> kostkon:- Will look at them now!
[03:16] <dspstv> takes forever
[03:16] <dark_harmonics> or you can use Envy
[03:16] <kostkon> slim, ;)
[03:16] <anto> Can somone tell me why i'm geting to terible resolution on my Tv ??
[03:16] <Whiz2> kauer: you're on GAIM... that support different IM services... which service are you signed on with?
[03:16] <nandemonai> dspstv: You need the alternate disc for text install.
[03:16] <GNine> gnome is sweet to me .. only 750mb ram here
[03:16] <dspstv> tx nandemonai
[03:16] <dark_harmonics> gnome is awesome
[03:17] <dspstv> is not, but is a question of taste
[03:17] <dark_harmonics> if you are having trouble with it you can try kubuntu
[03:17] <GNine> plus about 600 of swap
[03:17] <dspstv> kde is pita also
[03:17] <dark_harmonics> dspstv everything is a matter of opinion i was just sharing mine :)
[03:17] <SeveredCross> Uh....
[03:17] <dspstv> this is an old machine
[03:17] <SeveredCross> Gnome probably isn't using your RAM.
[03:17] <dark_harmonics> agreed with severedcross
[03:17] <SeveredCross> Most of my RAM goes to Firefox, Java, Pidgin and the deskbar applett.
[03:18] <SeveredCross> Make sure you're reading the numbers correctly--Linux tries to use all available RAM in a smart way.
[03:18] <dspstv> SeveredCross, waoo, gnome doesnt use ram?
[03:18] <SeveredCross> Most of its RAM usage is one HUGE cache.
[03:18] <SeveredCross> Okay, not all of it like you said, I didn't mean it uses 0.
[03:18] <dark_harmonics> it uses some ram but not like windows does
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> How would I set my default file manager (Nautilus) to the lighter Thunar
[03:18] <dspstv> no need to compare with windoes thats clear
[03:18] <jtt> anyone know how and why my fstab is being rewritten on reboots
[03:18] <slim> kostkon:- no screenlets in synaptic... 4 out of 5 gdesklets let me edit the source to get them how I want them, the only problem is editing the source code for FTB-net-gauge
[03:18] <GNine> i have runned banshee, firefox, played video and chat here simultaneously without a hitch
[03:19] <SeveredCross> Ditto.
[03:19] <SeveredCross> I encode video and still watch movies while it's encoding. ^_^
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: what hdd controller/mb is that?
[03:20] <GNine> the wonders of good system administration .. even if it is only one machine
[03:20] <GNine> he
[03:20] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, hda7
[03:20] <mycael_mitch> avis:  15 mins left on the d-load i wll tell u on progress
[03:20] <dark_harmonics> tweaking your system is what i love about linux
[03:20] <cheeseboy> whats the command to restart my network?
[03:20] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, sorry  asus
[03:20] <kostkon> slim, they are not in synaptic. check their site: http://screenlets.org#
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: np
[03:21] <backtick> hi all, how can i change the interface language?
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: How many drives in the system and is it a dual boot
[03:21] <dark_harmonics> cheeseboy if you mean to refresh your network address its sudo ifdown [adapter]
[03:21] <Blauhaut> hiya all
[03:21] <dark_harmonics> then sudo ifup [adapter]
[03:21] <avis> mycael_mitch, you dont have to tell me.  you will need to learn what you need to do.
[03:21] <tripitaka> what's the console (no gui) command used to update all installed packages to the latest release?
[03:21] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, one drive not dual boots all linux
[03:22] <SlimeyPete> tripitaka: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:22] <Blauhaut> when i try System->Administration->Login Screen Setup --> gives me error ask your admin to start with gdm
[03:22] <Blauhaut> how cna do that
[03:22] <fastputty> someone use cacti here, i need quick help for importing template
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> So it is changing your drive layout of just the file changes
[03:22] <nandemonai> tripitaka: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[03:22] <tripitaka> SlimeyPete: Thank you
[03:22] <avis> tripitaka, that will take you to gutsy.  if you just want to update the packages sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[03:22] <dark_harmonics> nandemonai thats how i would do it
[03:22] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, just fstab changes to an older copy weird
[03:22] <tripitaka> avis: 10 seconds too late :)
[03:23] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, and only one entry is changing
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: does anything in the file change
[03:23] <Blauhaut> when i try System->Administration->Login Screen Setup --> gives me error ask your admin to start with gdm
[03:23] <cheeseboy> dark_harmonics: i mean all adaptors and reload /etc/network/interfaces
[03:23] <avis> tripitaka, for gutsy support you can go to #ubuntu+1
[03:23] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, just the  /dev/hda7 entry changes the rest is left alone
[03:23] <Huh1> my Gaim isn't working right, msn doesnt work anylonger. I checked, gaim is outdated, its now existing under the name pidgin. but I can't find any ubuntu support for it...what can I do?
[03:24] <dark_harmonics> hmm im still a lil freshly converted but i think it would have to do with initrd
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: does it change back and forth between two of the same or different each time
[03:24] <cheeseboy> Huh1 its in debuntu repos
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: what type of partition is it?
[03:24] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, changes to the same values each time and UUID is always wrong
[03:24] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, so it wont mount
[03:25] <Whiz2> kauer?
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: I assume there is a way to lock it down, but that is above my pay grade...
[03:25] <GNine> nice.. 77 mb freed and the updates no longer apply to my machine..
[03:25] <dark_harmonics> oh yea cheeseboy i didnt know pidgin was in the repos
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: what type of partition is it?
[03:25] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, yes thanks for the input it is making me think a little about some things
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: I wasnt trying to string you along, but I had not seen that before..
[03:26] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, no problem thanks
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:27] <slim> kostkon:- Looks very good but there doesn't seem to be a net gauge monitor which is the only gdesklet that is less than satisfactory for me
[03:27] <mindframe> what kernel is gutsy based off of?
[03:27] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, partition type ext3
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: Can you post your fdisk -l
[03:27] <cheeseboy> mindframe: uname -r
[03:27] <SeveredCross> Gutsy uses 2.6.22
[03:27] <Huh1> cheeseboy: it is in the repos?  debuntu? i'll have a look. couldnt find it in the synaptic sys manager
[03:27] <RJ_BR> I need an ubuntu guru. Anyone available?
[03:27] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, sure hold on
[03:27] <GNine> i got two ext3 partitions
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: as well as your fstab...  Id would like to look it over
[03:27] <mindframe> cheeseboy, im not running gutsy or i would have done that, smart***
[03:27] <GNine> just cuz
[03:28] <avis> mindframe, i'm using gutsy and its 2.6.22-10-generic for me.  support in #ubuntu+1
[03:28] <mindframe> thanks
[03:28] <slim> kostkon:- Everything else i can change to suit me
[03:28] <dark_harmonics> no need to get all hussy mindframe
[03:28] <dark_harmonics> he was trying to help you
[03:28] <Huh1> cheeseboy: where to find the "debuntu repos" ...google isn't useful
[03:28] <mindframe> sorry, i just woke up
[03:28] <CyberMadz> Pici thanks..
[03:28] <cheeseboy> Huh1: u need to add this repo http://repository.debuntu.org/
[03:28] <dark_harmonics> np mind we all get cranky :)
[03:29] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, what is that paste url you post to again?
[03:29] <dark_harmonics> cheeseboy doent that need to start with a deb?
[03:29] <dark_harmonics> i not an expert but i thought they did
[03:30] <cheeseboy> dark_harmonics: kilick the link the info for distros is on the site
[03:30] <avis> very few people speak about using untrusted repositories
[03:30] <cheeseboy> click*
[03:30] <dark_harmonics> gots ya
[03:30] <RJ_BR> please explain what this means for a file: ?rwsrwsrwt 65535<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER> 1969-12-31 23:59 pkgcache.bin   .... because can do nothing with it... copy, rename, delete
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[03:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:30] <kauer> Whiz2:?
[03:31] <dark_harmonics> yea avis is right. anytime you use untrusted repositories you open up your system to whoever packaged the debs
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: Sorry I was google'n your problem
[03:31] <avis> i once had my computer taken over from using untrusted compiz repositories way back several distros ago.
[03:31] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, what is the paste url
[03:31] <Whiz2> kauer: did ya login with the info I PM'd you?
[03:32] <dark_harmonics> RJ_BR if you want to delete it you may need to refference the last part of the file like
[03:33] <dark_harmonics> but wait if ther are other critical files next to it you might wanna be careful
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: I showed you above... when I !paste
[03:33] <probono> hi all, is there a special #channel for the ubuntu live cd?
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: I may have a lin with a soultion
[03:33] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, ok thanks
[03:33] <avis> probono, this is it.  just ask your question
[03:33] <kauer> Whiz2, moreinfo in prvate chat.
[03:34] <kostkon> slim, no clue. Could you please repeat what is the specific problem you have with gdesklets?
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: If you put a label on the partition ...   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223182&highlight=uuid&page=2
[03:34] <Whiz2> kauer: I'm not getting any replies in private chat from you
[03:34] <RJ_BR> dark_harmonics: sudo cp -a pkgcache.bin pkgcacheOLD.bin  give me >>> cp: `pkgcache.bin' has unknown file type
[03:34] <Whiz2> kauer: join me in #whiz2 for now
[03:34] <avis> one must be registered to nickserv to get private messages on freenode
[03:35] <probono> ok, so is there any way to include a "autorun"/"knoppix.sh"-like file on the ubuntu live medium? I'd like to make some minor pre-configuration, but don't want to remaster the compressed filesystem
[03:35] <probono> maybe a boot option like autorun=/cdrom/my.sh
[03:35] <probono> P
[03:35] <probono> ?
[03:36] <sudobash> if i wanted a script that would startup vmplayer with a specefic .vmx file and wanted to run it with a sudo before it what scripting language would i want to use?
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: My main concern is that it should not change...
[03:37] <pawan> hi
[03:38] <pawan> foxit reader for ubuntu
[03:38] <erUSUL> sudobash: sh scripting is enough imho
[03:39] <jrib> sudobash: why would you sudo vmplayer?
[03:40] <cristi01> how do i configure ubuntu to write on windows hdd?
[03:40] <erUSUL> !ntfs-3g | cristi01
[03:40] <ubotu> cristi01: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:40] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > cristi01 (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:40] <erUSUL> cristi01: read the ubotu msg
[03:40] <cristi01> jtib: i've installed that
[03:40] <Huh1> cheeseboy: got the debuntu repository running and authenticated, still I cant find anything about pidgin
[03:40] <SlimeyPete> you needs ntfs-config too
[03:40] <cristi01> jrib: i've already installed that
[03:41] <probono> so there is no way to make the ubuntu live cd automatically execute a script upon launch?
[03:41] <erUSUL> cristi01: as SlimeyPete says you will need ntfs-config
[03:41] <jrib> cristi01: did you run it after you installed it?
[03:41] <GreyGhost> !autoremove
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autoremove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <slim> kostkon:- Have 5 desklets showing - 4 of them let me " sudo gedit " the source files to change different things - spacings in the calendar etc... The only thing I can't do is get FTB-net-gauge to have a space between the # and kb/s so it is more readable. Evean got to the stage where I deleted all the code and wrote " This is pissing me off" 100 times then rebooted but nothing changed!!!!!! Same process works in other desklets
[03:41] <GreyGhost> !apt-get
[03:41] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:41] <cristi01> erUSUL: i have that, the disks are mounted, but i just have read-only access
[03:42] <erUSUL> cristi01: can you paste your /etc/fstab in paste.ubuntu-nl.org ??
[03:43] <cheeseboy> Huh1 u on fiesty?
[03:43] <avis> cristi01, sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ntfs-config ; sudo ntfs-config
[03:43] <Cin> hi, does anyone know where I can get the macmenu-applet patches and applet itself for Feisty?
[03:44] <avis> cristi01, and after that if it still only gives you read only access you might need a reboot :/
[03:44] <Am2U> hi i am new to linux and i have a problem
[03:44] <avis> Am2U, go ahead, ask your question
[03:44] <Cin> I could only download the hacked Gtk+ from this link because RapidShare won't let me download anymore: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2591836&postcount=532
[03:44] <kostkon> slim, ah ok. Are you sure you are changing the right string. Try to put a html non-breaking space if you want to create a space ( ). maybe this will work better.
[03:44] <sudobash> if i wanted a script that would startup vmplayer with a specefic .vmx file and wanted to run it with a sudo before it what scripting language would i want to use?
[03:44] <Am2U> i have installed ubuntu 7.04 on an AMD machine . motherboard if NVidia chipset
[03:44] <GNine> how bout chown
[03:45] <Am2U> the problem is with the sound - i have 5.1 speakers and i was tinkering to get it to work , however now my sound card is not being detected
[03:45] <Huh1> cheeseboy: dapper still
[03:45] <cristi01> avis: it works, thanks
[03:45] <Am2U> aman@aman-port:~$ alsamixer
[03:45] <Am2U> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[03:45] <Am2U> aman@aman-port:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:45] <Am2U> --- no soundcards ---
[03:45] <Am2U> can someone please help me ?
[03:46] <cheeseboy> Huh1 i thinks its only in fiesty so try adding fiesty repos from debuntu to your source list
[03:46] <Am2U> avis, can you help ?
[03:47] <dropster> does anyone know if the new 7.10 will correct the problem with ati and 1280x800 resolution ?
[03:47] <avis> there is a alternative to using untrusted respositories (you be the judge) -- compiling from source
[03:47] <Huh1> cheeseboy: ok i will try that thanks
[03:47] <bouter> join #python
[03:47] <lil-g-man> hello guys and few girls :)
[03:47] <slim> kostkon:- Ahtmlnon-breaking space sounds like what this Spanish lady I used to see shouted at me  when she was "annoyed". Pls explain more because what I do works with other desklets...
[03:47] <slapfaceware> hi guys and no girls
[03:47] <lil-g-man> is anyone here using a webcam built into their laptop???
[03:47] <Upsal> when i try to install package php5-curl, i got this error: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-curl_5.2.1-0ubuntu1.2_i386.deb 404 Not Found, how can i solve this?
[03:47] <gnomefreak> dropster: ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:47] <avis> Am2U, did you try looking in cat /proc/asound to see if there was a more suitable variable to look up ?
[03:48] <genii> avis: I agree
[03:48] <gnomefreak> lil-g-man: what is the problem you are having?
[03:48] <danielIG> hi folx
[03:48] <Am2U> well i dont quite understand . i am a noob
[03:48] <genii> avis: (compiling from source is better than adding unknown repos)
[03:48] <Bryan441> ..... need.... help....
[03:48] <newtokubuntu> does Gutsy have Compiz fusion enabled by default?
[03:48] <Am2U> however my soundcard worked before [ only 2 channel but ]
[03:48] <Bryan441> finally got to upgrading from Breezy to Feisty
[03:48] <slim> Just read what I wrote Hope you can make sense of it
[03:48] <gnomefreak> newtokubuntu: ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:48] <danielIG> I need some advie with following error: "error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[03:48] <Am2U> the alsa driver module is intel8x0
[03:49] <avis> Am2U, cd /proc/around then a ls -al then look for the original syntax you gave when seeking help and match with what does exist
[03:49] <lil-g-man> gnomefreak: do u have a working webcam on ur laptop?
[03:49] <Am2U> however modprobe intel8x0 returns nothing
[03:49] <gnomefreak> lil-g-man: what are you here for?
[03:49] <Bryan441> need to install fglrx to get my Radeon 9600 working.  Does anybody know of a tutorial for this that is accurate for Feisty?  Most seem to have been written for Dapper.
[03:49] <Huh1> cheeseboy: pidgin:
[03:49] <Huh1>   Depends: libavahi-client3 (>=0.6.13) but 0.6.10-0ubuntu3.4 is to be installed
[03:50] <Huh1> shiiit
[03:50] <lil-g-man> gnomefreak: i've got an hp laptop, i was looking around and i found this ricoh driver that should make the webcam work. but i'm not sure if my webcam is supported
[03:50] <danielIG> the thing is, that I have to compile my alsa driver and then the c-compiler doesn't compile... has anyone had a similar error?
[03:50] <gnomefreak> lil-g-man: this is a ubuntu support channel if you are not here for help or to help others you need to move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:50] <Pici> !ohmy | Huh1
[03:50] <ubotu> Huh1: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:50] <avis> Bryan441, i believe its as simple as using the restricted drivers on your system administartion.  it should fetch a precompiled driver
[03:50] <Am2U> cd /proc/around dosent exist :(
[03:50] <gnomefreak> !hardware | lil-g-man
[03:50] <ubotu> lil-g-man: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:50] <cheeseboy> HUh1 whats the problem?
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Upsal: It means the file does not exist ot the site is down. ot the site is overloaded
[03:50] <Upsal> ok thx
[03:50] <Bryan441> so just use the restricted ones from the repositories?  That's it?
[03:50] <gnomefreak> btw Huh1 dont mix repos
[03:50] <avis> danielIG, did you install build-essential ?
[03:50] <danielIG> I have installed build-essentials and libc-dev etc
[03:50] <Am2U> maybe you ment /proc/asound ?
[03:50] <lil-g-man> gnomefreak: i am here for the help, i need some help about the webcam
[03:51] <avis> Am2U, i have no idea then
[03:51] <gnomefreak> Huh1: i dont know who told you to do that but you are looking to break your system
[03:51] <danielIG> yes avis
[03:51] <Am2U> /proc/asound returned something
[03:51] <muki> hi
[03:51] <Huh1> gnomefreak: cheeseboy did! :D
[03:51] <Am2U> ls -al
[03:51] <Am2U> right ?
[03:51] <gnomefreak> cheeseboy: dont ever recommend that
[03:51] <cheeseboy> gnomefreak: recomend what?
[03:51] <gnomefreak> lil-g-man: tell hte users in the channel your problem so they can help you
[03:52] <gnomefreak> cheeseboy: mixing repos
[03:52] <Huh1> gnomefreak: although it meight have been my dumbness as well
[03:52] <avis> Am2U, that is what gets a directory listing on console or terminal, yes.  you can also do ls -al /proc/asound/
[03:52] <boyam> !ati > Bryan441
[03:52] <Actionman> how can i get my 64 bit browser to use 32 bit plugins w/o adding a 32 bit browser?
[03:52] <cheeseboy> gnomefreak: its a third part repo that only has like 3 aps
[03:52] <boyam> Bryan441, check out the pm from ubotu
[03:52] <Am2U> okay what next ?
[03:52] <Pici> !flash64 | Actionman
[03:52] <ubotu> Actionman: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[03:52] <Dunas> Hi, I just downloaded and installed NDISwrapper with no issues, but upon downloading and unpacking the Windows drivers for the RTL8185 chipset, NDISwrapper doesn't seem to load them when told to.
[03:52] <danielIG> okay, I have build-essential but still gcc doesn'T compile
[03:52] <lil-g-man> has anybody used ricoh driver for the builtin webcam in a ubuntu running laptop???
[03:53] <Actionman> ok
[03:53] <Huh1> gnomefreak: thing is I wanted to get my msn working again (gaim's is outdated), but for that I dont want to install the new ubuntu version all along, because thats too much work
[03:53] <vrkhans> I am trying to install E17  and got this error i paste the output in pastebin and the number is 34890
[03:53] <cheeseboy> so Huh1 pidgin working with msn now?
[03:53] <vrkhans> please help me
[03:53] <Floker> i just hooked up a hard drive into my server and now i try to mount it, how do i do that? (ide, secondary master) i tried "mount -t ext3 -o ro /dev/hda2 /media/hddaux" but it say that there is no such device
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> lil-g-man: Did you look at the hardware page gf showed you?
[03:53] <avis> Am2U, i forgot your original question though if you replace what your original bash syntax was when seeking help and filling in something propriate that you got when you did a ls -al /proc/asound that should work.
[03:53] <Dunas> I click on Install New Driver and select the right one, but NDIS- after taking a second- simply doesn't seem to register that it installed the driver.
[03:53] <Am2U> well see i ll repeat again
[03:54] <genii> Floker: Is the computer bios seeing the drive first?
[03:54] <gnomefreak> cheeseboy: but the app he is looking for is a main repo app and the depedns are also gonna be in main repo its dangerous, if he wants it recommend upgrading to correct release
[03:54] <Huh1> cheeseboy: no it isn't, couldnt install pidgin due to the repomixing
[03:54] <gena>
[03:54] <Floker> genii, i dont know the server doenst have a a video card
[03:54] <gnomefreak> Huh1: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[03:54] <genii> !ru | gena
[03:54] <ubotu> gena:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[03:54] <Huh1> gnomefreak: 6.06
[03:54] <Dunas> Can anyone help?
[03:54] <stickto> hi, guys, how to delete all files under a directory except a file
[03:54] <gnomefreak> Huh1: any reason why you dont upgrade to 7.04
[03:55] <Floker> is there a command to list all devices that could be mounted?
[03:55] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, sorry jack my machine crapped out on me
[03:55] <gena> Wow its a european server?
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:55] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, the paste bin is  34887
[03:55] <sudobash> if i wanted a script that would startup vmplayer with a specefic .vmx file and wanted to run it with a sudo before it what scripting language would i want to use?
[03:55] <danielIG> Can anyone comment on a gcc-problem in ubuntu feisty? error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:55] <genii> Floker: Perhaps run:   sudo fdisk -l     to see what hd the OS can see
[03:55] <gnomefreak> Huh1: in your case a clean install would be better and faster
[03:55] <sudobash> perl?
[03:55] <cheeseboy> Huh1 you can compile it from source
[03:55] <lil-g-man> jack_sparrow: not yet, i've looked around and i found that ricoh supports hp webcams, in some sites they ask to run lsusb or lspci and i don't get the line they are asking so i'm wondering if my webcam is still stupported
[03:55] <Pici> sudobash: I'd use a shell script.
[03:55] <Floker> genii; Disk /dev/hdc doesn't contain a valid partition table
[03:55] <Floker> not that shocks me
[03:56] <gnomefreak> danielIG: did you install build-essential??
[03:56] <Floker> not = now
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> lil-g-man: And that is why we sent you to the page that tells you
[03:56] <vinicri> what is the emule client for ubuntu
[03:56] <avis> sudobash, why on earth would you play a video as root ? i think bash is sufficient for what you want to do.
[03:56] <danielIG> yes gnomefreak
[03:56] <Pici> vinicri: amule
[03:56] <Am2U> I have a NVidia motherboard with on board sound. THe module as suggested on the ALSA website is intel8x0. i was trying to get me .1 sound to work when i came across a guide on help.ubuntu.com. I was titles IntelSoundHowTo. I follwed it but then only my left channels worked [rear too ] . So i went to synaptic and remvoed alsa-base and alsa utils. along with that i must have removed some libs
[03:56] <SlimeyPete> vinicri: amule, xmule
[03:56] <genii> Floker: Did you have it in another computer previously?
[03:56] <Dunas> I'm having problems with NDISwrapper and a Windows Driver in Ubuntu, can anyone help?
[03:56] <Am2U> so now my sound card is not being detected
[03:56] <jrib> vinicri: amule is one
[03:56] <Huh1> cheeseboy: I tried, but it wouldn't let me though
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: SOmething is really wrong if the uuid is changing and it is wrong
[03:57] <Floker> genii, oh thank you very much its mounted, fdisk -l was just war ive been looking for. thanks and have a nice day, :D
[03:57] <genii> Floker: Different motherboards may map a drive differently as far as cylinders/heads/sectors than another.
[03:57] <vinicri> ok. thx
[03:57] <stickto> who can tell me how to delete all files except a file under a directory?
[03:57] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, yeah however, i have seen this behavior before
[03:57] <Golyadkin> Hey all, is it possible to change the color of the window bar for the unselected windows?
[03:57] <avis> Am2U, i think if your left channel is working that is a good sign.  i would try right clicking and selecting volume control on the gnome sound icon
[03:57] <Floker> its correctly mounted and i can copy the files now, :>
[03:57] <vrkhans> i got this error while installing E17 please help me
[03:57] <genii> Floker: Ah, OK, have a good one
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: Really, when and on what.. the same machine.. mb?
[03:57] <Golyadkin> The Theme application won't allow me to change colors.
[03:57] <Am2U> well the problem is that now when i click the volume button it says no sound device or gstreamer plugin found
[03:57] <danielIG> so gnomefreak and avis, what would be the next idea after I have build-essentials all there?
[03:58] <Huh1> well I'm off
[03:58] <cheeseboy> HUh1 what you mean it wont let you?
[03:58] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, no another machine another os suse
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Golyadkin: What error or just wont let you
[03:58] <avis> danielIG, you've got me
[03:58] <kostkon> slim, i meant that you can put " " instead of space between the two words. But I don't think it will work anyway. I think the problem is elsewere. Are you sure you are changing the right string? maybe there are two instances of it in the code or something similar.
[03:58] <Dunas> I need help with NDISwrapper and the Windows drivers for an RTL8185 wireless chipset, can someone please help me?
[03:58] <Bryan441> boyam, thanks
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: Ont thought
[03:58] <danielIG> I have googled, usually people haven't their stuff together (i.e. libc-dev or libncurses or whatever)...
[03:58] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, i am going to get a new hard drive and reload this one is 4 years old with much much use
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> jtt: oops... I am thinking about the partitions.. how many primary?
[03:59] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, 3 primary
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> one extended
[03:59] <Golyadkin> Jack_Sparrow: when I click customize, and then the colors tab: "The current controls theme does not support color schemes". I am using the default Ubuntu theme.
[04:00] <jtt> Jack_Sparrow, yes one extended
[04:00] <avis> linux is able to run fine with all of the necessary partitions being extended and it kind of makes sense to do so since there is a hard drive limitation on primary partitions
[04:00] <Am2U> also alsamixer dosent open
[04:00] <Am2U> it gives an error
[04:00] <Dunas> I need help with NDISwrapper and the Windows drivers for an RTL8185 wireless chipset, can someone please help me?
[04:00] <big_bang14> is there any software which allows you to synthesise text as a sound file?
[04:00] <Dusk_> how can i find third party test or non-free repo adresses??
[04:00] <Am2U> gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Golyadkin: Have you tried other themes... save what you have as a theme and try to edit change that
[04:00] <avis> i am sorry Am2U i will tell you this, when support fails here, try http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:00] <RJ_BR> since i cant see other solution for fixing synaptic, i think i'll do a windows maneuver, reinstall everything..
[04:01] <Am2U> hmm oki
[04:01] <Golyadkin> Jack_Sparrow, thanks, will give it a go.
[04:01] <Am2U> but could you tell me how to reinstall alsa drivers ?
[04:01] <avis> Am2U, someone else might know how
[04:01] <Am2U> ok thanks
[04:02] <killerham> Has anybody managed to get compiz running on a vmware guest?
[04:02] <act1v8> !git
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about git - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <big_bang14>  is there any software which allows you to synthesise text as a sound file?
[04:02] <act1v8> big_bang14
[04:02] <act1v8> big_bang14: yes
[04:02] <RJ_BR> see you soon people. bye
[04:03] <erUSUL> killerham: afaik vmware does not emule 3d hardware so i do not see the point of compiz on a vmware guest (slow as h**l)
[04:03] <big_bang14> act1v8: tell me more
[04:03] <Dusk_> how can i find third party test or non-free repo adresses??
[04:03] <act1v8> big_bang14: eSpeak and Festival are the most famous... just see man festival or man espeak
[04:03] <erUSUL> big_bang14: festival for example
[04:03] <slim> just googled html non-breaki... 7 as suggested added to line and rebooted but no change. Am convinced that the source that a right click shows is not what the desklet runs off, if it was when I deleted it and wrote "this is pissing me off" 100 times it would have changed
[04:03] <big_bang14> erUSUL: they would save to mp3?
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Dusk_: what are you looking for besides trouble?
[04:04] <act1v8> big_bang14: they won't. they save into wav but you can convert them to an MP#
[04:04] <big_bang14> act1v8: would they save to mp3
[04:04] <act1v8> MP3*
[04:04] <Dusk_> Jack_Sparrow, try newer versions of packages
[04:04] <erUSUL> big_bang14: dunno but most likely they generate wav or something... just pipe it to some encoder
[04:04] <Dusk_> Jacek_Kendysz, maybe gutsy?
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Dusk_: Are you on gutsy yet
[04:04] <big_bang14> act1v8: thats fine
[04:04] <ari_stress> hello
[04:04] <Dunas> I need help with NDISwrapper and the Windows drivers for an RTL8185 wireless chipset, can someone please help me?
[04:04] <ari_stress> where do i set peerdns=no in ubuntu?
[04:04] <killerham> erUSUL vmware has some directx 8.1 support. It crashes my desktop when I try and enable desktop effects. Any ideas where the compiz log file would be so i can see if anything is obvious?
[04:04] <Dusk_> Jack_Sparrow, no how can i update from feisty to gutsy?
[04:05] <ari_stress> hello
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Dusk_: You could even dual boot if you want to keep one stable and one bleeding edge
[04:05] <Dusk_> Jack_Sparrow, yeah that would be wonderful
[04:05] <SeveredCross> Meh, Gutsy's stable enough. :O
[04:05] <SeveredCross> *:)
[04:05] <erUSUL> killerham: well compiz (linux in general) uses OpenGL
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Dusk_: That would be #Ubuntu+1
[04:05] <avis> Dusk_, backup then sudo update-manger -d    see #ubuntu+1 for support its not for production machiens
[04:05] <killerham> erUSUL ahh, yes vmware can't interpret opengl commands yet
[04:05] <killerham> I would try it on my main machine, but ubuntu wont install :'(
[04:05] <big_bang14> how do i make festival output to wav?
[04:05] <Dunas> ><
[04:05] <Dusk_> thanks
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Dusk_: Much better than playing with odd repos
[04:06] <slim> gdesklets just sent me an email to say that I reported a problem so the future may provide a solution. Thanks
[04:06] <avis> Dusk_, please backup unless you are willing to take a risk.  for what its worth i've had very pleasant experience with tribe 5, support  in #ubuntu+1
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> slimThat sounds like an answer from a fortune cookie
[04:06] <Dunas> I need help with NDISwrapper and the Windows drivers for an RTL8185 wireless chipset, can someone please help me?
[04:07] <KlrSpz> when does a pkg get added to the dpkg database?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Everyone should back up.. it is so much easier that a windows backup ever was
[04:07] <Dusk_> avis, ok thanks
[04:08] <reinis> what does "perl-clutching" mean?
[04:08] <Uriku> I'm having problems with the mouse in Ubuntu =/
[04:08] <killerham> My setup is Core2 Duo 6600, Asus P5W DH delux, nvidia 8800GTS, nvidia 7800GS. When the install gets to the 'starting gnome...' and 'cpsrvd something', the screen just stays blank, or in save mode, the pc speaker goes crazy
[04:08] <avis> KlrSpz, it is unclear what you mean.  i'm not aware of a dpkg database.  there is however ubuntu repositories where they are accessed throught sudo apt-get install or sudo aptitude install which fetches a deb to your system and installs necessary dependenices
[04:09] <Uriku> ...
[04:09] <KlrSpz> avis: dpkg reads from a "dpkg database" according to the man page.. i'm trying to determine how i can tell if a pkg is installed or not...
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> KlrSpz: You want to submit a package ....?
[04:09] <avis> killerham it sound like you might have some bios issues relating to the cpu overheating.  on a intel based socket 775 motherboard you'd set cpu fan to legacy mode instead of intel to have the cpu fan work at full power all the time
[04:10] <jrib> !apt > KlrSpz (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:10] <Dunas> Aarrghh.
[04:10] <jrib> KlrSpz: apt-cache policy PACKAGE  will work
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> KlrSpz: Do you want a list of installed packages?
[04:10] <KlrSpz> where did you get that rom?
[04:10] <KlrSpz> s/rom/from
[04:10] <erUSUL> KlrSpz: aptitude search <package name>  take a look at the first colummn i==installed
[04:10] <killerham> avis it displays a blank screen at the same position every time
[04:10] <jrib> !who | KlrSpz
[04:10] <ubotu> KlrSpz: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[04:11] <vrkhan1> how i can  'universe' component enabled
[04:11] <Dunas> I need help with NDISwrapper and the Windows drivers for an RTL8185 wireless chipset, can someone please help me?
[04:11] <erUSUL> !universe > vrkhan1
[04:11] <jrib> !universe > vrkhan1 (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:11] <KlrSpz> jrib: so will dpkg -l <pkg> not suffice?
[04:11] <tini_> hello
[04:11] <jrib> vrkhan1: basically, just use system -> administration -> software sources, but ubotu gave you more details
[04:11] <jrib> KlrSpz: sure, that works too
[04:12] <KlrSpz> jrib: i did a dpkg -l git-core automake and i got: No packages found matching automake
[04:12] <tini_> could anyone please help me with php? i'm trying to install one application but each time i get "/usr/bin/php: bad interpreter: No such file or directory"
[04:12] <KlrSpz> jrib: i figured if it wasn't installed it'd tell me, since there's a column/flag for Not isntalled
[04:12] <NoFX_SBC> someone with a pcchips a31g or a sis190 ethernet adapter running feisty?! the driver of kernel > 2.6.17 to this ethernet cause packet loss... any idea to solve this problem?!
[04:12] <sacredheart> Tidus: Do you have php-cli installed?
[04:12] <avis> killer you might try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the nvidia driver it sounds if gnome is not spawning its likely a video driver issue.  you can restart gdm by sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart and let us know the exact error
[04:12] <sacredheart> tini_ I mean
[04:13] <vrkhan1> i know how to enable them but i forget the file and directory
[04:13] <vrkhan1> can you tell me that
[04:13] <big_bang14> how do i send a file via bluetooth using bluetooth file sharing
[04:13] <Pici> vrkhan1: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:13] <vrkhan1> thanks
[04:13] <jrib> KlrSpz: if you never installed it, it will say that
[04:13] <tini_> i'm installing it right now
[04:13] <genii> Perhaps esoteric but annoying: why does     sudo echo `command` >> /somefile       not work when as root/sudo su    echo `command` >> /somefile      works?
[04:13] <Uriku> say
[04:13] <sacredheart> tini_: Good, that should sort your problem
[04:13] <Dunas> I need help with NDISwrapper and the Windows drivers for an RTL8185 wireless chipset, can someone please help me?
[04:13] <Uriku> what is the difference between ImPS/2 and ExplorerPS/2?
[04:14] <Uriku> in the mouse configurations options
[04:14] <KlrSpz> jrib: ok, i GUESS that makes sense, so when you uninstall it, it stays in the dpkg db but is marked as Not Installed?
[04:14] <sacredheart> Uriku: Enables the use of button config
[04:14] <erUSUL> genii: you should use sudo sh -c "echo `command` >> /somefile"
[04:14] <jrib> KlrSpz: yes, seems so
[04:14] <big_bang14> how do i send a file via bluetooth using bluetooth file sharing
[04:14] <jrib> KlrSpz: you should read over the quick intro to apt that ubotu sent you, use apt-get and aptitude if you want to manage packages on the command line
[04:14] <Pici> genii: sudo command >> /file wont work if you dont have permissions to /file as your user.
[04:14] <Uriku> which one enables?
[04:14] <slim> tried more things without luck
[04:14] <Pici> !bluetooth > big_bang14 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
, tnx very much
[04:14] <sacredheart> Uriku: ExplorerPS/2
[04:15] <sacredheart> tini_: Np
[04:15] <genii> Pici erUSUL   thanks
[04:15] <Uriku> erm
[04:15] <vinicri> are there a babylon similar for ubuntu
[04:15] <big_bang14> !bluetooth
[04:15] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:15] <blue016> Hi, at all
[04:15] <Uriku> I got an 8 button mouse, that is, including scrolling up and down
[04:15] <Pici> !mouse | Uriku
[04:15] <ubotu> Uriku: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:15] <sacredheart> There you go
[04:16] <Uriku> thank you. :)
[04:16] <New2UbuntuHelp> hey guys im new to Ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[04:16] <sacredheart> depens
[04:16] <Pici> !ask | new
[04:16] <ubotu> new: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:16] <sacredheart> ask your question
[04:16] <erUSUL> !anyone | New2UbuntuHelp
[04:16] <ubotu> New2UbuntuHelp: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:16] <vrkhan1> now how I can update that
[04:17] <NoFX_SBC> someone with a pcchips a31g or a sis190 ethernet adapter running feisty?! the driver of kernel > 2.6.17 to this ethernet cause packet loss... any idea to solve this problem?!
[04:17] <vrkhan1> after changing the /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:17] <Pici> vrkhan1: sudo apt-get update
[04:17] <sacredheart> vrkhan1: apt-get update
[04:17] <vrkhan1> ok
[04:17] <vinicri> does anyone know a babylon for ubuntu?
[04:17] <Pici> vinicri: What do you mean?
[04:17] <New2UbuntuHelp> lol i thought id be polite? anyhow i need some help settingup my wireless network card via PCMCIA on my laptop, its installed, detects hardware (used ndiswrapper) but i cant browse the net unless i use the ethernet connection :(
[04:18] <avis> sudo if that is a package you can try sudo apt-cache search babylon
[04:18] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | vinicri
[04:18] <ubotu> vinicri: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:18] <avis> vinicri, that was meant for you.  i haven't slept
[04:19] <Pici> New2UbuntuHelp: Are you getting an IP address? Did you associate the card with your access point?
[04:19] <jrib> avis: no need for sudo with apt-cache search
[04:19] <avis> thank you jrib
[04:19] <jbarry> hi all I would like to ask on how to remotely shutdown LTSP clients from an admin session
[04:19] <New2UbuntuHelp> Pici: the card is associated to the network and it does get an IP using DHCP
[04:19] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: Can you ping your router/some other computer?
[04:19] <vinicri> Pici: it's a software that translate words and phrases, but it only works on XP. i'm looking for a ubuntu similar
[04:20] <Pici> New2UbuntuHelp: Is it resolving addresses? Can you ping or dig google.com?
[04:20] <vinicri> www.babylon.com - it's where u would find ir
[04:20] <kroynos> I installed postfix by using the how to on ubuntu howto site, then when i set up using the outlook express to pull email from my own server, it keeps telling me to input my password am i setting up postfix wrong, also its its using SSL.
[04:20] <NoFX_SBC> how to solve the problem in feisty with sis190 ethernet adapter?
[04:20] <jbarry> hi all I would like to ask on how to remotely shutdown LTSP clients from an admin session
[04:20] <avis> vinicri, babytrans is a front end to dictionaries from babylon translator try apt-cache search babylon
[04:21] <New2UbuntuHelp> i cant ping anything, and it doesnt resolve an Ip just says looking for www.google.com.au and spends like 13 mins without a result
[04:21] <wwalker> anyone else having problems with updates
[04:21] <Paddy_EIRE> !patience | jbarry
[04:21] <kroynos> nope i am not
[04:21] <ubotu> jbarry: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> NoFX_SBC: Have you looked it up in supported hardware?
[04:21] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: Not even an internal ip address?
[04:21] <Cin> Jack_Sparrow, use the EYE!
[04:21] <New2UbuntuHelp> internal i can do
[04:21] <New2UbuntuHelp> external i cant
[04:21] <mythsched> hi, my mythtv won't record anything, it did but the scheduler thred seams like it stopped because nothing new is scheudaled
[04:21] <kroynos> i use apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[04:22] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: Okey, then it's probably a route/dns-problem
[04:22] <jbarry> sorry ubotu i have read your other comment about just asking away
[04:22] <avis> New2UbuntuHelp, are other computers on your internal network able to access the internet ?
[04:22] <NoFX_SBC> Jack_Sparrow the driver is present... load module ok... i access internet and lan... but packet loss is a constanty
[04:22] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: type cat /etc/resolv.conf
[04:22] <New2UbuntuHelp> i have 3 other pcs all on xp working fine
[04:22] <NoFX_SBC> Jack_Sparrow this ethernet work fine with kernel 2.6.17-10
[04:22] <sacredheart> what does it say? Does it contain a line with nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> where <IP_ADDRESS> is your dns?
[04:22] <Paddy_EIRE> jbarry: not repeatedly the same question, and ubotu is a bot :P
[04:22] <livingdaylight> is ubuntu still rocking?
[04:22] <NoFX_SBC> Jack_Sparrow but > 2.6.17-10 dont work fine
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> NoFX_SBC: Sometimes you find usefull information about different drivers and version for your specific card
[04:23] <mythsched> i can't get mythtv to record anything new, and it has no upcomming recordings, it was recording fine a little wile ago
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> ofcourse livingdaylight
[04:23] <livingdaylight> looks like PCLinuxOS is taking over now?
[04:23] <jbarry> oh hehehehe i'm very new in this chat thing so hehehe
[04:23] <livingdaylight> Paddy_EIRE, you're loving it?
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> livingdaylight: #ubuntu-offtopic oh and I doubt it
[04:23] <New2UbuntuHelp> Sacred it says no such file or directory
[04:23] <avis> New2UbuntuHelp, you might have to compile your own ethernet driver from a recent source but since you have a working internet computer try looking up your motherboards ethernet chipset in google and add feisty to the google search to see if its supported
[04:23] <NoFX_SBC> Jack_Sparrow i try to compile the driver from kernel 2.6.17-10 and override the driver in kernel 2.6.20-16
[04:23] <Dunas> Can someone please help me with getting NDISwrapper to load a Windows driver for an RTL8185 realtek chipset? I drastically need this to work for schoolwork, people- please? ><
[04:23] <livingdaylight> anyone seen Ubuntu run on a Sony Vaio laptop?
[04:24] <sacredheart> sacredheart: Then that's probably your problem, probably
[04:24] <sacredheart> erh
[04:24] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp i mean
[04:24] <sacredheart> ksjdfh
[04:24] <javaJake> lol
[04:24] <Pici> avis: He already has it working, just not resolving.
[04:24] <NoFX_SBC> livingdaylight ubuntu work fine in sony vaio
[04:24] <avis> sorry
[04:24] <Pici> New2UbuntuHelp: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[04:24] <Dunas> ><
[04:25] <Pici> !patience | Dunas
[04:25] <ubotu> Dunas: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:25] <mythsched> my mythtv won't record anything new and has no upcomming recordings, there is enough room to record, i think the problem is that i tried to change the master backend to something else and i can't get the pvr-500 card to work with my computer so i told the client to be its own master again, but it won't schedual anything
[04:25] <kroynos> i need to help to fix the smtp relay problem with my personal server
[04:25] <New2UbuntuHelp> avis: using my ethernet is fine using it now, using my pcmcia card doesnt work :(
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> NoFX_SBC: Wish you luck...
[04:25] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: type sudo echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" >> /etc/resolv.conf
[04:25] <livingdaylight> NoFX_SBC, i've got a friend who knows nothing about linux wants me to install linux on her sony vaio laptop
[04:25] <sacredheart> where <IP_ADDRESS> is your dns
[04:25] <mythsched> #mythtv
[04:25] <livingdaylight> NoFX_SBC, wondering what might suit her system best
[04:25] <avis> in instances where my ethernet device do not work i try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart as well as sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0 but in regards to ifup and ifdown i dont know what order they have used though the ifup/down commands revive my network
[04:25] <Dunas> Pici: I've been trying to have patience, but around 15 minutes with not so much as a "dunno" and watching everyone else getting helped on other things is straining. ><
[04:25] <javaJake> Dunas, I assume you've already tried installing ndiswrapper, and installing your .inf and .sys files?
[04:25] <mythsched> join #mythtv
[04:26] <Pici> mythsched: /j #mythtv
[04:26] <Heri> Ok guys, first time Linux user at your disposal. Laugh away. I can't figure out how to install my GeForce Go 7400 drivers. :(
[04:26] <javaJake> Dunas, also, I assume you visited the ndiswrapper website to check to see if your card is supported?
[04:26] <livingdaylight> mythsched, mythtv is a piece of shite... fogged aboud it
[04:26] <Paddy_EIRE> livingdaylight: check out the ubuntuforums and the wiki/laptop testing team to see how to accomplish this
[04:26] <Pici> !ohmy | livingdaylight
[04:26] <ubotu> livingdaylight: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:26] <erUSUL> !nvidia | Heri
[04:26] <ubotu> Heri: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:26] <avis> New2UbuntuHelp, your pcmcia card might not be supported.  try google for the chipset and affix that to feisty in a google search
[04:26] <New2UbuntuHelp> ill be right back guys
[04:26] <Heri> *reads*
[04:26] <jrib> Heri: system -> administration -> restricted drivers manager, ubotu sent you more detailed info
[04:26] <sacredheart> av-: Its a dns/route-problem
[04:26] <livingdaylight> thx, Paddy_EIRE good idea
[04:26] <Pici> avis: He is getting an IP address. Its basically working just DNS isnt configred properly.
[04:27] <mythsched> living why do u say that?
[04:27] <sacredheart> avis: i mean, osfo
[04:27] <erUSUL> Heri: as you can see you are not the only one as there is a good how to ;)
[04:27] <avis> eek.  i am messing up
[04:27] <livingdaylight> Pici, families do not say shite?
[04:27] <Pici> livingdaylight: no.
[04:27] <NoFX_SBC> Jack_Sparrow =)
[04:27] <Dunas> javaJake: I have NDISwrapper installed, yes, and the problem is installing the windows driver. The website says it's supported, but when I click "Install New Driver", select the .inf file, and then click Install, NDISwrapper hangs for a moment before showing the list of installed drivers again, which remains blank.
[04:27] <vrkhan1> I got this error while installing E17 :
[04:27] <mythsched> livingdaylight, why do you say that
[04:27] <avis> livingdaylight, not here they dont
[04:27] <vrkhan1> No package 'dbus-1' found
[04:27] <vrkhan1> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[04:27] <vrkhan1> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[04:27] <vrkhan1> Alternatively, you may set the environment variables EDBUS_CFLAGS
[04:27] <vrkhan1> and EDBUS_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
[04:27] <vrkhan1> See the pkg-config man page for more details.
[04:27] <Pici> !paste | vrkhan1
[04:27] <ubotu> vrkhan1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:27] <Paddy_EIRE> livingdaylight: no civilised families dont say that
[04:27] <javaJake> Dunas, use the command-line, not the graphical utility.
[04:27] <livingdaylight> avis, do they say kaka?
[04:27] <javaJake> Dunas, you'll get much better information that way
[04:27] <avis> livingdaylight, thats inappriorate as well you are a troll
[04:28] <Dunas> javaJake: No idea how to do that. >_o;
[04:28] <vrkhan1> but then how do you guys can see the output
[04:28] <Pici> !who
[04:28] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[04:28] <erUSUL> vrkhan1: through a pastebin
[04:28] <javaJake> Dunas, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,installation/
[04:28] <vrkhan1> well sorry
[04:28] <erUSUL> !paste > vrkhan1
[04:28] <javaJake> Dunas, all the information you seek is on the 'net
[04:28] <vrkhan1> but any idea
[04:28] <vrkhan1> whats wrong
[04:28] <javaJake> Dunas, you just need to do a bit more looking around. I'll give you another link in a moment
[04:29] <Pici> vrkhan1: How are you installing it?
[04:29] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: Working better?
[04:29] <javaJake> Dunas, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[04:29] <New2UbuntuHelp> not yet
[04:29] <javaJake> Dunas, that last link is better
[04:29] <New2UbuntuHelp> can i get those instructions once more?
[04:29] <naksha> how can i remove a program installed via wine? wine uninstaller doesn't show it as installed?
[04:29] <Dunas> javaJake: Thank you. ^^
[04:30] <Paddy_EIRE> New2UbuntuHelp: scroll up
[04:30] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: type sudo echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" >> /etc/resolv.conf where <IP_ADDRESS> is the ip of your dns server
[04:30] <vrkhan1> Pici I am following the instruction given in this tutorial :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97199&highlight=E17+cvs
[04:30] <Pici> New2UbuntuHelp: If you dont know your DNS servers, use the ones from OpenDNS or <IP_ADDRESS> (Level3)
[04:30] <vrkhan1> using the script ./easy_e17.sh -i
[04:30] <big_bang14> ubuntu cant find my nokia phone when i scan for it
[04:31] <vrkhan1> stuck at the 20th
[04:31] <Archangel_> thebalaabodu
[04:31] <avis> just for the sake of helping people out i have found nifty instructions on improving font rendering in ubuntu which has made my linux experience much more pleasant here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343670
[04:31] <troy> hey guys, I'm haing a problem upgrading my install due to a broken package (j2re1.4)... nothing on my system depends on this package, so I was wondering if anyone knows a way to force its removal?
[04:31] <avis> troy sudo aptitude remove <packagename>
[04:31] <Heri> I'm all confused. In the restricted drivers manager it lists Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 Network Connection driver for Linux | In Use. But all it lists for my video card is NVidia accelerated graphics driver | not in use - and it won't enable it even after I restart. So I went to http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8756.html and downloaded it, but when I run it through the...
[04:31] <Heri> ...terminal all I get is an error saying "n-vidia installer must be run as root" :S
[04:32] <New2UbuntuHelp> hmm just did it now for the test
[04:32] <vrkhan1> any idea
[04:32] <vrkhan1> what should i do
[04:32] <big_bang14> ubuntu cant find my nokia phone when i scan for it. i have managed to send files to ubuntu though
[04:32] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: Type host www.google.com
[04:32] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: Do you get an answer?
[04:33] <New2UbuntuHelp> yep
[04:33] <troy> avis: fails... dpkg: error processing j2re1.4 (--remove): \n  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 \n Errors were encountered while processing: \n j2re1.4 \n E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:33] <New2UbuntuHelp> all these ips
[04:33] <New2UbuntuHelp> and then alias
[04:33] <naksha> Ok I managed to remove the programs via wine uninstaller but now i can't delete the gnome menu shortcuts? how can I do it?
[04:33] <Pici> vrkhan1: Sorry, I have very little experience installing E, the last time I used it was years ago.
[04:33] <naksha> anybody?
[04:33] <avis> troy, did you complile the package yourself ?
[04:33] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: Great, then you have contact with your dns :)
[04:33] <vrkhan1> any one else
[04:33] <Heri> so how do I run the drivers at http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8756.html from root, what ever the hell that is. :S lol
[04:33] <troy> avis: no
[04:33] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: Try and ping www.google.com
[04:33] <slim> Heri:- do you type "sudo" in terminal to do this
[04:33] <vrkhan1> no problem
[04:33] <Pici> !sudo | Heri
[04:33] <ubotu> Heri: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:34] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: Type ping www.google.com
[04:34] <vrkhan1> we all are learning
[04:34] <Pici> naksha: You might have better luck asking in #winehq
[04:34] <naksha> does anybody use wine here?
[04:34] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: Do you get an answer?
[04:34] <naksha> okies
[04:34] <naksha> thanks
[04:34] <avis> troy, you might want to force it with apt-get remove, man apt-get.  i'm thinking it just needs a -f flag for force
[04:34] <slim> ubotu is wise
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is wise - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <Dunas> javaJake: About that last link: I got dunas@dunas-laptop:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/drivers/net8185.inf
[04:34] <Dunas> driver net8185 is already installed
[04:34] <Heri> no, I used su /home/viewtify/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8756-pkg1.run
[04:34] <New2UbuntuHelp> yea im getting replies
[04:34] <New2UbuntuHelp> but they are taking forever
[04:34] <New2UbuntuHelp> just like when im browsing
[04:34] <New2UbuntuHelp> takes so damm long to load a page
[04:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Heri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:35] <slim> ubotu can be quick to reply
[04:35] <Heri> *reads*
[04:35] <Heri> *feels like a dumbbutt*
[04:35] <Pici> !enter
[04:35] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:35] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: Okey, can't help you further now, you have contact with the internet
[04:35] <slim> all that is new is foreign
[04:35] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: Any problem related to your home network is your headeache :)
[04:35] <New2UbuntuHelp> lol arghh, thanks anyway so what am i supposed to do now?
[04:36] <uri> :'(
[04:36] <Pici> !ipv6 | New2UbuntuHelp  you could try disabling ipv6, it slows down browsing sometiems
[04:36] <ubotu> New2UbuntuHelp  you could try disabling ipv6, it slows down browsing sometiems: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:36] <New2UbuntuHelp> i mean i can browse now its just taking forever? signal strength is 100%
[04:36] <Paddy_EIRE> New2UbuntuHelp: ubuntuforums...google...ubuntuwiki to name but a few
[04:36] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: Try and get hold of another card, see if it works better with it
[04:36] <uri> Desktop effects is causing havoc with my mouse
[04:36] <Paddy_EIRE> !effects | uri
[04:36] <New2UbuntuHelp> i hate netgear :(
[04:36] <ubotu> uri: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[04:37] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: It could be a bad driver
[04:37] <New2UbuntuHelp> well i used ndiswrapper
[04:37] <New2UbuntuHelp> dont think there is a linux driver for Netgear WG511v2 china
[04:37] <avis> New2UbuntuHelp, i hate netgear products as well, like the plague.  they are windows centric
[04:37] <Golhn> Hi, I install feisty on a Compaq c502US, Some know where can I download the chipset and video drivers
[04:38] <troy> avis: same error message trying to use -f flag... : dpkg: error processing j2re1.4 (--remove): \n  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 \n Errors were encountered while processing: \n j2re1.4 \n E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:38] <New2UbuntuHelp> ok guys im willing to change brands here gonna buy a new card, any suggestions? i need RFMON if possible for obvious reasons lol
[04:38] <Paddy_EIRE> http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=25952741 New2UbuntuHelp
[04:38] <LoRez> how can you mount (not just browse) a samba fileshare from the gui
[04:38] <avis> troy hmm i dont know is it causing you problems since it exists on your system ?  you might try the sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-plugin packages for java
[04:39] <Paddy_EIRE> New2UbuntuHelp: dont give up so easily
[04:39] <sacredheart> New2UbuntuHelp: Orinoco :)
[04:39] <Heri> Ok, I ran "sudo /home/viewtify/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8756-pkg1.run" and now it comes up with an error "you appear to be running an X server, please exit X before installing" :(
[04:39] <genii> Back. who was it trying to set up a rtl8515 with ndiswrapper again? there seems to be a linux driver for that chip as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370579
[04:39] <Pici> LoRez: Theres an entry underthe Places menu to add a server connection.
[04:39] <sacredheart> Or intel-based
[04:40] <New2UbuntuHelp> paddy easily? ive been trying to get the basterd to work for a week now i started with a flashing light on the card, then i associated it it went stable and here i am lol, netgear can go to hell as far as im concerned lol
[04:40] <LoRez> Pici: that doesn't actually mount it on the filesystem though, does it?
[04:40] <Timmmm> Hi, I did an apt-get update/upgrade on my system (can't remember what it changed), and now it won't boot! It freezes during boot before I can even get to a console login. No error messages either, it just stops. The last message is something like Loading PCI device 000:000.d, ACPI: PCI then something about an IRQ. What's the deal with that? It worked fine earlier today.
[04:40] <troy> avis: still not succeeding... is there no way to force a package to be removed without it running the "post-removal script"?
[04:40] <Pici> LoRez: No, it doesnt. I'm not sure if theres a gui tool to do that.
[04:40] <avis> Heri, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop   then do what you need to do in console
[04:40] <Paddy_EIRE> genii: hey nice one my tower uses that chipset
[04:40] <Timmmm> Also windows works fine so I assume it isn't a hardware error.
[04:40] <Heri> avis - thanks :)
[04:40] <itguru> is it possible to use krdc to use wins names? such as, krdc reception001, instead of krdc <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[04:41] <avis> troy, no idea.  someone else might know
[04:41] <LoRez> Pici: notice I specifically asked to not just be able to browse it?
[04:41] <troy> avis: thanks for your time :)
[04:41] <genii> Paddy_EIRE: Do you remember who was using ndiswrapper for 8515? Dunas?
[04:41] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm, not sure
[04:41] <Dunas> genii: Me
[04:41] <Paddy_EIRE> :D
[04:41] <Dunas> genii: It's not going so hot.
[04:42] <genii> Dunas: Maybe try the  linux driver for that chip as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370579
[04:42] <jzl_> Hello.. looking for some assistance.  I just upgraded 7.10 alpha5 on a test machine.  Everything went great except it seems that beryl will not show a menu & title bar.  I've searched everywhere that I know to look for support, but nothing seems to be working for me.   This worked fine on a raw 7.04 build.
[04:42] <avis> Heri, if you prefer you can download the restricted drivers for your ati/nvidia card in gnome and it may not download the latest driver though its rather safe if you dont know what you are doing
[04:42] <Golyadkin> Is there a difference between the ATI driver I can download from their site (ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run), and the restricted driver that comes with Ubuntu Feisty Fawn?
[04:42] <Paddy_EIRE> genii: oh I tried that one... very little luck on my tower
[04:42] <avis> jzl_, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[04:43] <vrkhan1> how i can  adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[04:43] <vrkhan1> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[04:43] <Golyadkin> (I have the HIS X1650XT Ultra Ice-Q)
[04:43] <vrkhan1> or set the environment variables EDBUS_CFLAGS
[04:43] <vrkhan1> and EDBUS_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
[04:43] <jzl_> avis: thanks
[04:43] <Heri> avis, trust me, I don't know what I'm doing. haha. That command you just gave me did something scary... :)
[04:43] <Dunas> genii: I tried that before, it didn't work.
[04:43] <vrkhan1> nay idea how i can do this
[04:43] <genii> Paddy_EIRE: There seems 2 chipsets, 8515 and 8515L
[04:43] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[04:44] <avis> eek !  Heri, well, can you get to an xserver ?
[04:44] <reinis> can anyone tell me what "perl-clutching" means?
[04:44] <vrkhan1> set the envioment variable
[04:44] <Paddy_EIRE> reinis: lol
[04:44] <New2UbuntuHelp> thanks for the help guys, i appreciate it, gonna go throw this card out the window LOL jk ;)
[04:44] <avis> Heri, you can start up gdm again with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:44] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[04:44] <Heri> lol ok
[04:45] <slim> heri:- Go to main menu - system admin - login window - security & check " allow root login " then logout & login as " root " & redo all that you tried from the beginning. only way I know to help
[04:46] <Heri> ok I'll try that... this is sure diff then Windows. lol
[04:46] <Paddy_EIRE> Heri: thats the point :P
[04:46] <slim> heri:- lol to you
[04:47] <neverblue> monring everyone
[04:47] <Paddy_EIRE> goodevening neverblue
[04:47] <brutopia> good afternoon
[04:48] <Paddy_EIRE> :D
[04:48] <slim> heri:- don't forget to uncheck " allow root login " after for security's sake
[04:48] <Heri> kk
[04:48] <neverblue> im guessing paddy doesnt mean you Irish :)
[04:48] <Paddy_EIRE> neverblue :D
[04:49] <Paddy_EIRE> neverblue the names always a dead give away
[04:49] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[04:49] <neverblue> so is mine :)
[04:49] <mycael_mitch_> hey
[04:49] <neverblue> morning mycael_mitch_
[04:49] <mycael_mitch_> is there anyway i cna play a OLD pc game on Ubuntu
[04:49] <slim> Heri:- One more " k " might bring on trouble
[04:49] <SlimeyPete> mycael_mitch_: dosbox
[04:49] <neverblue> mycael_mitch_, emulator + wine. possibly
[04:49] <mycael_mitch_> neverblue: how do i use them
[04:49] <neverblue> unless there is a linux emulator for the system
[04:49] <Paddy_EIRE> mycael_mitch_: your gonna have to feed us more info than that if you expect any help
[04:50] <mycael_mitch_> about?
[04:50] <avis> mycael_mitch_, first what operating system does the game in question use ?
[04:50] <SlimeyPete> mycael_mitch_: which game?
[04:50] <SlimeyPete> how old?
[04:50] <SlimeyPete> windows or
[04:50] <SlimeyPete> dos?
[04:50] <mycael_mitch_> SlimeyPete: win 95/98
[04:50] <genii> Paddy_EIRE , Dunas  Found a deb on realteks's site for Debian 3.1, kernel 2.6.13
[04:50] <Paddy_EIRE> genii: you got the link
[04:50] <SlimeyPete> mycael_mitch_: proper win95 gme, or one which has a win95 frontend but really runs in dos mode?
[04:50] <Kylie2004> hi guys
[04:50] <neverblue> mycael_mitch_, what game?
[04:51] <neverblue> please say Doom, please say Doom
[04:51] <neverblue> :)
[04:51] <mycael_mitch_> neverblue: RollerCoaster Tyconn 1
[04:51] <Bucket> so, I have just spent the past three hours trying to figure out how to set up this fricking internet connection
[04:51] <neverblue> ah, fun game
[04:51] <SlimeyPete> mycael_mitch_: Wine's your best bet for that
[04:51] <mycael_mitch_> neverblu: sorry
[04:51] <Paddy_EIRE> mycael_mitch_: that should run really well on wine
[04:51] <neverblue> mycael_mitch_, sudo aptitude install wine
[04:51] <SlimeyPete> (and that's not *old*! young whippersnappers etc)
[04:51] <mycael_mitch_> SlimeyPete: white rosr red
[04:52] <neverblue> mycael_mitch_, no one said it was going to be easy though "_
[04:52] <SlimeyPete> mycael_mitch_: hehe. Check out winehq.com - there's a compatibility list and FAQ. Wine is preinstalled on ubuntu feisty I think.
[04:52] <Pici> !wine | mycael_mitch_
[04:52] <ubotu> mycael_mitch_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:52] <neverblue> oh now Pici thinks he needs to put his 2 cents in :)
[04:52] <mycael_mitch_> so to install how i mew to Linux world
[04:52] <Pici> neverblue: Yep ;)
[04:52] <neverblue> mycael_mitch_, sudo aptitude install wine
[04:52] <mycael_mitch_> i type that
[04:52] <neverblue> in command line
[04:52] <mycael_mitch_> kk
[04:52] <Pici> SlimeyPete: Wine is not preinstalled anywhere.
[04:53] <genii> Paddy_EIRE: Bah, seems for 8187, but it's on the 8185 d/l page. dunno if they are compatible types http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8185L   direct link to file: ftp://<IP_ADDRESS>/cn/wlan/debian31-8187(110).zip
[04:53] <Golyadkin> Is there a difference between the ATI driver I can download from their site (ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run), and the restricted driver that comes with Ubuntu Feisty Fawn?
[04:53] <avis> mycael_mitch_, if you haven't installed aptitude already you might have to do that first
[04:53] <mycael_mitch_> on mac atm will boot to linux in a min what IRc should i use so i can get help?
[04:53] <big_bang14> my nokia is picked up when i run hcitool scan but gnome-obex-send doesnt find it. how do i fix this?
[04:53] <SlimeyPete> Pici: is it not? hrm, coulda sworn it was. Mebbe I installed it manually and then forgot.
[04:53] <Bucket> Can someone please explain something!
[04:53] <Bucket> I'm losing my fricking hair here!
[04:53] <slingintacos> Bucket: just ask the question
[04:53] <avis> mycael_mitch_, you can use irssi for console and xchat for gnome
[04:53] <slingintacos> save the preamble
[04:53] <mycael_mitch_> avis:  where can i get aptitude
[04:53] <genii> Male pattern baldness?
[04:54] <Dunas> HAHAHA.
[04:54] <Dunas> I think I got it.
[04:54] <Paddy_EIRE> genii: I'll give this a try...it seems to be a common problem with this chipset a the actual radio part of the card is different also :(
[04:54] <avis> mycael_mitch_, its available in the default repos just do sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install aptitude
[04:54] <Golyadkin> mycael_mitch_, run: "sudo aptitude install aptitude"   :)
[04:54] <Golyadkin> ;)
[04:54] <neverblue> mycael_mitch_, the rest of this will be upto you, once you get wine installed :)
[04:54] <slim> bucket:- just got back. What's upsetting you
[04:54] <Dunas> Apparently it had a default driver that might work but required a bit of tweaking- it'd been blisted.
[04:54] <genii> Paddy_EIRE: that it is on the 8185L downloads page is hopeful
[04:55] <Bucket> Yehyeh, well, I've been trying to follow htis page http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=21726 , the first post, I'm a little unsure what part of it to follow seeing as I use a huawei e220 which is usb, not pcmcia. Also, when I do try to save wvdial.conf to etc. it says it's read only and cannot be saved.
[04:55] <Bucket> ;________;
[04:55] <Dunas> genii: The Linux driver doesn't work for me, but I think the default one that was blacklisted will.
[04:55] <big_bang14> my nokia is picked up when i run hcitool scan but gnome-obex-send doesnt find it. how do i fix this?
[04:55] <Dunas> genii: Certainly seems to, though NetworkManager isn't showing anything.
[04:55] <slingintacos> Bucket: you need to chmod the file
[04:56] <slim> bucket:- Do you know about chown as a way to make things happen?
[04:56] <Bucket> and what the pants does that mean :D?
[04:56] <slingintacos> Bucket: google
[04:56] <slim> pants are necessary
[04:56] <mycael_mitch_> neverblue:  thanks
[04:56] <Golyadkin> Bucket, chown : change owner of a file or directory.
[04:56] <neverblue> mycael_mitch_, ask questions in #winehq now :)
[04:56] <genii> Dunas: network manager not displaying a connection which is known to be working is some issue I have seen mentioned a lot. The fix escapes me however. someone may know it offhand
[04:56] <slingintacos> slim: no they aren't, lulz i'm not wearing them and google works fine :)
[04:57] <TooR4u> Hiii .. i have just installed kiba-dock .... I have some problem ... i have followed the following tutorial to install kiba-dock ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/2007/04/install-kiba-dock-oncedgy-eft.html
[04:57] <TooR4u> My problem is ... I have started the kiba-dock at starting  ... But it is not displaying the bar(blue)[after rebooting]
[04:57] <big_bang14> my nokia is picked up when i run hcitool scan but gnome-obex-send doesnt find it. how do i fix this?
[04:57] <Bucket> Okay, I'm admin, so it should be like that already I guess... But whatever. So, I type chown wvdial.conf <username>
[04:57] <slingintacos> Bucket: google it first
[04:57] <Bucket> k
[04:57] <slingintacos> you're going to mess something up
[04:57] <TooR4u> when i tried to start it through the terminal it is displaying the message that the program is already running
[04:58] <TooR4u> what might be the problem?
[04:58] <Paddy_EIRE> !enter | TooR4u
[04:58] <ubotu> TooR4u: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:58] <TooR4u> Paddy_EIRE, i have to describe the problem clearly ....!!
[04:59] <slim> bucket:- if the file you are trying to do things is owned by root then you will only be able to read it! Right click the file in nautilus or what you use then click permissions. This will tell you what to do next. Ask a nother question to learn.
[04:59] <Paddy_EIRE> TooR4u: still applies
[04:59] <Golyadkin> TooR4u, your single line can be very very long.
[04:59] <big_bang14> my nokia is picked up when i run hcitool scan but gnome-obex-send doesnt find it. how do i fix this?
[04:59] <Dunas> genii: I'm just asking about a replacement for it on the offtopic channel; I know that the default driver was known to cause some crashes, but so far it's working perfectly for me.
[04:59] <dxdt> Entering a cron command will have cron run it as root, right?  I want to set a cron command to occasionally activate webalizer to keep stats updated, but unless webalizer is run as root/sudo it will fail.  Does cron run things as root like that?
[04:59] <TooR4u> GodTodd, sorry
[04:59] <Bucket> k
[04:59] <TooR4u> Golyadkin, u know kiba-dock?
[05:00] <Pici> dxdt: Depends if you setup the user cron or the system cron
[05:00] <Kopfgeldjaeger> dxdt: yes. but do "sudo crontab -e"!
[05:00] <neverblue> dxdt, yes, and you can create individual cron
[05:00] <Golyadkin> TooR4u, nope, isn't that a KDE package?
[05:00] <neverblue> as Kopfgeldjaeger stated
[05:00] <dxdt> Kopfgeldjaeger: what does that do?  the -e flag?
[05:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Golyadkin: it is a kde app
[05:00] <Kopfgeldjaeger> edit cronjobs
[05:00] <neverblue> dxdt, man crontab
[05:00] <slim> learn to walk before running & falling over
[05:00] <ejoj> Hi there, I have been struggling for a while to get support for mousewheel in cli, tried dpkg-reconfigure gpm, but i cant find a option for it there, is there another way i can get mousewheel support in cli or is it some configuration options I can add til /etc/gpm.conf that dpkg-reconfigure can't set?
[05:00] <gcostello> dxdt: edit
[05:00] <dxdt> oh nm I saw it already stupid question
[05:00] <TooR4u> Golyadkin, nope .. it will give mac look u r desktop
[05:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Golyadkin: I think it requires composite to work
[05:01] <ConstyXIV> is the apache 2.0 license (http://opensource.org/licenses/apache2.0.php) viral like the GPL?
[05:01] <genii> Dunas: Good luck with it
[05:01] <avis> ejoj sudo apt-get install gpm
[05:01] <Golyadkin> Yeah, most of them do. Just like AWN
[05:01] <genii> Work, AFK
[05:01] <Pici> !moues | ejoj
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moues - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <Pici> !mouse | ejoj
[05:01] <ubotu> ejoj: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[05:01] <Golyadkin> I don't use any dock.
[05:01] <Paddy_EIRE> TooR4u: yes but its a kde app and requires composite to run
[05:01] <Dunas> genii: Thank you.
[05:01] <TooR4u> Paddy_EIRE, okey
[05:01] <big_bang14> my nokia is picked up when i run hcitool scan but gnome-obex-send doesnt find it. how do i fix this?
[05:02] <ejoj> it works in X but i want it supported in links2 running on framebuffer
[05:02] <Paddy_EIRE> TooR4u: If it was me I'd hit the ubuntuforums... you'll have more success there... then we can help you help yourself
[05:03] <avis> ejoj you need mouse support in console ?  sudo apt-get install gpm
[05:03] <Bucket> funk yeah~!
[05:03] <TooR4u> Paddy_EIRE, okey
[05:03] <Bucket> That command shall com ein useful~!
[05:03] <Anlar> ConstyXIV: no, it is not. apache's license is very sane
[05:03] <ejoj> avis gpm is instaled, but my mousewheel is not working
[05:04] <avis> ejoj if you cannot center click you can try left and right buttons on mouse to emulate click wheel
[05:04] <ConstyXIV> Anlar: are there any situations where i shouldn't use apache?
[05:04] <ohwhyme> I got cloning to work with the ati fglrx drivers. Can I run each screen as their own resolutions?
[05:04] <ConstyXIV> Anlar: the license, that is
[05:04] <dxdt> How can I make vim the default editor thingy?  When I just did crontab -e nano came up :-(  I know there is an easy command for this like ... umm.....   update-somethings?
[05:05] <Anlar> ConstyXIV: not really. it's a very good license
[05:05] <Paddy_EIRE> TooR4u: dont forget to search the forums a bit before posting anything
[05:05] <slingintacos> dxdt: udpate-alternatives --config editor
[05:05] <ejoj> avis the wheelclik is not the problem, that button works, but i have no succes on getting the mousewheel to scroll in fbgetty and links2 running in frambuffer
[05:05] <Paddy_EIRE> TooR4u: duplicate posts just dont get you anywhere :)
[05:05] <TooR4u> Paddy_EIRE, okey ...
[05:06] <Ubunter> hello
[05:06] <Paddy_EIRE> TooR4u: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=25954100
[05:06] <ohwhyme> anyone know if u can run different resolutions for cloned monitors with fglrx?
[05:07] <Ubunter> sure you can
[05:07] <Paddy_EIRE> ohwhyme: tried the forums?
[05:07] <ohwhyme> yea i did
[05:07] <ohwhyme> ive been trying to make this work all day
[05:07] <PP188> what do it mean? : got a root?
[05:08] <Ubunter> i have cloned monitors with fglrx and have different resolutions
[05:08] <ohwhyme> nice do u mind sending me ur xorg conf =)
[05:08] <Ubunter> sure i can
[05:08] <Ubunter> i just don't know if IRC is a safe possibility
[05:08] <big_bang14> my nokia is picked up when i run hcitool scan but gnome-obex-send doesnt find it. how do i fix this?
[05:09] <Paddy_EIRE> !paste | Ubunter
[05:09] <ubotu> Ubunter: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:09] <ohwhyme> right now my laptop is @ 1650x1080 and my screen is at teh same res, but if I change it to 1920x1200 the laptop also goes to that res
[05:09] <Paddy_EIRE> ohwhyme: yeah thats annoying
[05:09] <Bucket> Okay, can someone give me some very exact information now, I think I have gotten an understanding oif this dealy in the last couple hours...
[05:10] <ohwhyme> haha yea
[05:10] <Ubunter> you need to modify your drivers
[05:10] <Paddy_EIRE> Ubunter: did you do anything application wise to get that working
[05:10] <Ubunter> that's not just a xorg.conf thing
[05:10] <ohwhyme> oh really?
[05:10] <Ubunter> yeah
[05:10] <Ubunter> it's a backbreaking thing
[05:10] <ohwhyme> =/
[05:11] <EvaLuaTe> how can i edit/modify $PATH from the command line ?
[05:11] <SliMM> the cd that i've just introduced in the cd tray cannot be mounted :(
[05:11] <SlimeyPete> export PATH=$PATH;<insert new bits here>
[05:11] <Paddy_EIRE> Ubunter: you'd be better of giving him the link to the guide you followed rather than pasting your xorg.conf
[05:11] <slim> Linux is for the curious mind. Play with it, break it, reload and have another go. It's the best way to learn!
[05:11] <bulmer> yawsah...8gig usb drive for 60 bux at fry's..tempting
[05:11] <ohwhyme> man i wish ati would make something that worked better
[05:11] <SliMM> !cd
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <genii> 8gig or 80gig?
[05:12] <bulmer> flash usb drive
[05:12] <Ubunter> slim, Linux is for hackers
[05:12] <avis> slim, a better attitude would be dont break anything so you dont have to reinstall
[05:12] <Ubunter>  :)
[05:12] <jrib> EvaLuaTe, SlimeyPete: you need a : instead of a ;
[05:12] <genii> bulmer: Ah OK
[05:12] <Pici> Ubunter: Linux is for everyone.
[05:12] <SlimeyPete> jrib: aha, well spotted
[05:12] <Ubunter> i know
[05:12] <slingintacos> avis: that depends on what your purposes are
[05:12] <SliMM> Pici: ubuntu is for everyone
[05:12] <slingintacos> I have a breakable system and one that needs to be stable
[05:12] <ejoj> avis do you know of any alternative to gpm? so far in my search I have found nothing
[05:12] <Ubunter> okay linux is for eveyone, but not for blondes
[05:12] <Ubunter> :D
[05:12] <avis> ejoj, i sure dont
[05:13] <Bucket> Or brunettes ^____^
[05:13] <slim> If you don't know, not doing anything won't teach you anything.
[05:13] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[05:13] <SliMM> Pici: have you ever tried slackware? that's not for everyone
[05:13] <EvaLuaTe> jrib ?
[05:13] <Dunas> Linux is for the people who are slightly sadistic.
[05:13] <Ubunter> if you're blond, you're using Windows Vista or some shit
[05:13] <neverblue> agreed Dunas :)
[05:13] <Pici> !ohmy | Ubunter
[05:13] <ubotu> Ubunter: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:13] <Dunas> It can work brilliantly, better than windows, but it takes some serious self-abuse to make it work sometimes.
[05:13] <jrib> EvaLuaTe: SlimeyPete answered your question about $PATH but made a typo
[05:13] <avis> Dunas, its unfair to say that linux users are sadistic
[05:13] <neverblue> !ohmy | Pici :)
[05:13] <ubotu> Pici :): Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:13] <Pici> neverblue: ?
[05:13] <neverblue> hehe
[05:13] <neverblue> oh my!
[05:13] <EvaLuaTe> ohh
[05:14] <Ubunter> oh my fucking lord
[05:14] <ohwhyme> so ubunter uh did you follow a guide or anything?
[05:14] <neverblue> !op | Ubunter
[05:14] <ubotu> Ubunter: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[05:14] <jrib> Ubunter: please don't
[05:14] <EvaLuaTe> thanks jrib SlimeyPete :)
[05:14] <avis> Ubunter, watch your language
[05:14] <Dunas> neverblue: Oh hey. :D I figured out that problem at last, there's a default driver included with Ubuntu but it was blacklisted due to it crashing some systems.  I stopped X Server and ran the drvier and now the nvidia drivers want some kind of kernel compiler thingy downloaded. The problem is, I'm on dial up, and have no connection for my laptop at the moment. Am I stuck? :(
[05:15] <neverblue> Paddy_EIRE, mom
[05:15] <SliMM> !media
[05:16] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:16] <Dunas> neverblue: XD
[05:16] <SliMM> !mount
[05:16] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:16] <ohwhyme> allright does anyone know how to turn off the lcd monitor so i can use the external monitor at its highest resolution?
[05:16] <SliMM> !fstab
[05:16] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:16] <neverblue> Heri, use the nv driver?
[05:16] <jrib> Heri: really, restricted drivers manager would be easier
[05:16] <SliMM> !DiskMounter
[05:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[05:16] <genii> !botabuse
[05:16] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:16] <Golyadkin> ohwhyme, try Fn + F5 to turn off your laptop LCD panel.
[05:17] <EvaLuaTe> export PATH=$PATH:/usr/mycommands , this would add /usr/mycommands to the already existing $PATH or clear $PATH and and then add /usr/mycommand ?
[05:17] <SliMM> genii: sorry
[05:17] <Golyadkin> ohwhyme,  It could be a different key on your laptop
[05:17] <jrib> EvaLuaTe: append to existing
[05:17] <Heri> but it won't let me enable it through restircted drivers manager, even after I restart. It just says "not in use" :(
[05:17] <EvaLuaTe> ok, thanks again =)
[05:17] <slim> Heri:- Good work so far, but to use linux to your benefit you need to have the net & patience.
[05:17] <EvaLuaTe> and how can i remove a path then ?
[05:18] <Heri> my dial up requires windows to install. shit people pc
[05:18] <Paddy_EIRE> Heri: your making progress, I had a similar issue with ati
[05:18] <big_bang14> my nokia is picked up when i run hcitool scan but gnome-obex-send doesnt find it. how do i fix this?
[05:18] <Heri> I'm stuck. *cry*
[05:18] <Pici> Heri: Watch your language here please.
[05:18] <jrib> Heri: what happens when you click on the "Enabled" checkbox?
[05:18] <neverblue> !language | Heri
[05:18] <ubotu> Heri: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:18] <Heri> eek sry
[05:18] <rezz> i just installed ubuntu, and renamed my FAT32 drive using mtools, then i restarted, but it wont go on, gnome just loads and loads but nothing happens
[05:18] <SlimeyPete> EvaLuaTe: "unset PATH" I think
[05:18] <SlimeyPete> or something similar
[05:18] <Paddy_EIRE> Pici: seems to be one of those days... whats with the language
[05:18] <rezz> im now using live cd and i can see the harddrive i renamed
[05:18] <rezz> what can i do to fix this_
[05:18] <rezz> ?
[05:19] <Heri> I guess I could head down to the McDonalds and home ubuntu has my wireless working, and try downloading everything there
[05:19] <Heri> home = hope*
[05:19] <mad_goldfish> Is there any way to check if a USB mass storage device is safe to remove?
[05:19] <benji_> hi
[05:19] <dxdt> Is there a way to make aptitude list the packages that are listed as needing updats after running aptitude update?
[05:19] <slim> Heri:- network in system allows for dialup
[05:19] <jrib> mad_goldfish: right click on it -> eject/unmount
[05:20] <Heri> but my ISP don't like linux... it likes Windows and requires IE be installed. :(
[05:20] <avis> dxdt, its as simple as sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[05:20] <Heri> PeoplePC - go figure
[05:20] <mad_goldfish> jrib: But if I do that I often find I can't remount it until I reboot :-(
[05:20] <Paddy_EIRE> Heri: that cant be right
[05:20] <slim> Heri:- Bugger
[05:20] <neverblue> Heri you can install IE in ubuntu
[05:20] <rezz> i just installed ubuntu, and renamed my FAT32 drive using mtools, then i restarted, but it wont go on, gnome just loads and loads but nothing happens
[05:20] <Pici> !ies4linux | Heri
[05:20] <ubotu> Heri: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, dont use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[05:20] <benji_> when I connect my PSP or a flash drive, when I try to unmount it it says data is still being written, but its not :S
[05:20] <^^rian> hleo
[05:20] <rezz> what can i do to fix my gnome
[05:20] <slim> Needs net for that
[05:20] <avis> Paddy_EIRE, its spooky but its conceivable
[05:20] <SliMM> ubotu doesn't know anything about my problem
[05:20] <jrib> mad_goldfish: hmm, you pull it out and plug it back in and it doesn't automount?
[05:21] <Paddy_EIRE> avis: why would they do such a thing
[05:21] <^^rian> #manado\
[05:21] <genii> benji_: Put as fstab option   sync
[05:21] <^^rian> #manado
[05:21] <neverblue> !repeat | ^^rian
[05:21] <avis> Paddy_EIRE, dialup for the masses :/
[05:21] <^^rian> #wenang
[05:21] <ubotu> ^^rian: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:21] <benji_> how do I do that genii
[05:21] <Pici> rezz: I'm a little confused why a fat32 drive has anything to do with gnome. Can you explain it further?
[05:21] <benji_> how do I do that genii
[05:21] <Pici> ^^rian: /join #channel
[05:21] <big_bang14> my nokia is picked up when i run hcitool scan but gnome-obex-send doesnt find it. how do i fix this?
[05:21] <Paddy_EIRE> avis: I suppose...
[05:21] <deaforc> Heri: try IE4Linux, it uses wine, but it works ok.  http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[05:21] <SliMM> haven't anyone ever had problems with mounting cds?
[05:22] <benji_> an ISP cannot require IE
[05:22] <deaforc> sorry meant neverblue
[05:22] <Heri> *looks*
[05:22] <benji_> it is IMPOSSIBLE
[05:22] <Paddy_EIRE> SliMM: only faulty cds
[05:22] <neverblue> deaforc, ?
[05:22] <jrib> Heri: you can usually just use wvdial to connect with dialup
[05:22] <Pici> benji_: No its not, calm down.
[05:22] <benji_> theres nothing to stop you from using a different browser
[05:22] <rezz> Pici: i dunno, it was the last thing that i did, renaming that  fat32 drive
[05:22] <mad_goldfish> jrib: If I unmount it, unplug it, and plug it back in, it often won't remount (or appear in lsusb). If I just unplug it and plug it back in, it works, but I can't test to ensure all the data's transferred that way :-(
[05:22] <rezz> then it just didint start anymore
[05:22] <slim> no cd mounting probs. Doesw it automatically
[05:22] <benji_> how would they do it then Pici?
[05:22] <SliMM> Paddy_EIRE: i will re-insert the cd right now
[05:22] <benji_> think about it.
[05:22] <deaforc> neverblue: IE on linux - I have ubuntu and that's what i used
[05:22] <SliMM> Paddy_EIRE: it works on windows
[05:22] <neverblue> deaforc, I am replying, not asking
[05:23] <deaforc> sorry
[05:23] <Pici> benji_: ActiveX based authentication.
[05:23] <SliMM> Paddy_EIRE: oh, it's a dvd, not a cd
[05:23] <Paddy_EIRE> SliMM: whats on it
[05:23] <jrib> mad_goldfish: I see, sounds like a bug that it doesn't remount.  Don't know how to check if it's safe or how to make it safe without asking it to unmount
[05:23] <Pici> SliMM: I thought you said you didnt have a dvd drive.
[05:23] <benji_> I highly doubt whether there are ISP's doing that nowadays
[05:23] <neverblue> deaforc, thats why I placed someone's name at the beginning of my post :)
[05:23] <avis> deaforc, if you are inclined to use IE on ubuntu you will face the same security vulnerabilites as that version of IE
[05:23] <SliMM> Pici: i never said that
[05:23] <Pici> SliMM: hm.. must have been someone else then. Nevermind.
[05:23] <SliMM> Paddy_EIRE: unreal tournament 2004
[05:24] <deaforc> avis: ok, thanks for that - I generally just use it for testing....
[05:24] <Paddy_EIRE> have you tried manually mounting it
[05:24] <deaforc> neverblue: sorry, still quite new to this....
[05:24] <neverblue> deaforc, no prob :)
[05:24] <SliMM> Paddy_EIRE: Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'UT2004'.
[05:24] <Paddy_EIRE> !mount | SliMM
[05:24] <ubotu> SliMM: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:24] <SliMM> Paddy_EIRE: how do i do that?
[05:24] <rezz> hey, can anybody help me, im in a hurry
[05:24] <rezz> can renaming fat32 drive make gnome not start again_
[05:24] <rezz> ?
[05:25] <mad_goldfish> jrib: So it's better to track down the automount bug then? There's not usually much noticeable in dmesg, any other logs you think I should check to help Google track things down?