[05:21] <ardchoille> jMerliN: Ah, ok.
[05:21] <niyado> tengo dos particiones en un disco duro de 80gb, la mitad para kubuntu 7.10 y ubuntu 7.04, como puedo hacer para borrar una de esas dos particiones??
[05:21] <Jucato> !ies | niyado
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <llutz> !es | niyado
[05:21] <ubotu> niyado: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:21] <Jucato> sorry
[05:21] <niyado> thx
[05:23] <ceritus> so can anyone help me with my wireless card? i've been through the wiki but can't seem to solve the problem
[05:23] <strog_> how can i format a HD that has like 3 partitions
[05:23] <strog_> the filesystem should be FAT32
[05:26] <jMerliN> am about to download steam and play cs on here lol :P
[05:27] <ceritus> so can anyone help me with my wireless card? i've been through the wiki but can't seem to solve the problem
[05:28] <HELP> Hi, could somebody help me?
[05:29] <HELP> Please, I'm getting 'NTLDR is missing' error.
[05:29] <llutz> HELP: ask in #windows
[05:30] <HELP09> The problem is that I dual booted with KDE and XP
[05:30] <HELP09> and I tried to format the ext3 partition on xp
[05:32] <boliar> hi, why it gives me this http://pastebin.com/d6714fe31 when I am trying to compile kernel ?
[05:32] <boliar> I have made menuconfiguring but it can give to celan it
[05:44] <tom1502> hi, kann mir jemand helfen amarok zujm mp3 abspielen zu bewegen?
[05:44] <llutz> !mp3
[05:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:45] <stdin> !de | tom1502
[05:45] <ubotu> tom1502: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:45] <tom1502> oh, sry, sure... thought i've joined the germand channel
[05:45] <tom1502> well, how can i get amarok to play mp3?
[05:45] <llutz> !mp3 | tom1502
[05:45] <ubotu> tom1502: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:46] <uzer> RUS
[05:46] <tom1502> thx
[05:46] <stdin> !ru
[05:46] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[05:46] <BluesKaj> tom1502, sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpeg
[05:47] <bazhang> stdin: what's the command for mongolian?
[05:47] <tom1502> ah, ffmepg
[05:47] <bazhang> sorry for the ot.
[05:47] <stdin> bazhang: not sure
[05:47] <tom1502> feel like a beginner with KDE
[05:47] <stdin> don'r know if there is one bazhang
[05:47] <BluesKaj> tom1502, or libxine-extracodecs
[05:47] <tom1502> i've already installed those
[05:48] <BluesKaj> tom1502, what version of kubuntu ?
[05:48] <tom1502> 7.04
[05:49] <BluesKaj> ok libxine1-ffmpeg is the one
[05:49] <tom1502> amarok doesnt play mp3
[05:49] <BluesKaj> tom1502, logout and in again
[05:49] <Jucato> tom1502: installed "libxine-extracodecs" already?
[05:50] <tom1502> Jucato yes
[05:50] <Jucato> try restarting amarok?
[05:50] <tom1502> oh, logout?1
[05:50] <tom1502> compiz sholdnt hav4e influence on this
[05:50] <Jucato> no it shouldn't.
[05:50] <bazhang> stdin: there isn't but there is one on (bug #1) haha
[05:50] <Jucato> tom1502: have you tried restaring amarok?
[05:51] <tom1502> sure
[05:51] <Jucato> and still doesn't work after that?
[05:51] <Jucato> strange..
[05:51] <tom1502> nope
[05:51] <tom1502> ill be back in a second, just logout and login again...
[05:51] <ksivaji> is there any risk in upgrading from feisty to gusty ?
[05:52] <llutz> ksivaji: sure, gutsy is still beta
[05:52] <ksivaji> ho ...
[05:54] <tom1502> still doesnt work :(
[05:54] <tom1502> anyone an idea?
[05:55] <BluesKaj> ok tom1502, do you see the tune in the playlist and you just aren't getting any sound ?
[05:56] <tom1502> nope, i've got the welcome track and to mp3 files in the list. it plays the welcome thing, and if i press next it jumps to mp3#1, mp3#2 and then ends
[05:56] <tom1502> but the welcome thing works
[05:57] <jMerliN> hi
[05:57] <pag> tom1502, sorry for being sceptical, but what does " apt-cache policy libxine-extracodecs " return?
[05:58] <pag> !hi | jMerliN
[05:58] <ubotu> jMerliN: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:58] <tom1502> may i paste the few lines here?
[05:58] <pag> !paste | tom1502
[05:58] <ubotu> tom1502: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:58] <tom1502> yeah i know
[05:58] <tom1502> thats why i asked
[05:59] <tom1502> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39769/
[05:59] <tom1502> looks quite good to me
[06:00] <pag> tom1502, it does. try installing " libxine1-ffmpeg " too..
[06:00] <tom1502> already installed
[06:00] <tom1502> version 1.1.4-2...
[06:01] <BluesKaj> doesn't look right to me tom1502
[06:01] <tom1502> not?
[06:01] <tom1502> whats the matter?
[06:01] <BluesKaj> it should name the application
[06:01] <tom1502> ?
[06:02] <tom1502> u mean the first line?
[06:02] <tom1502> libxine-... : ??
[06:02] <tom1502> didnt copy thatone
[06:02] <pag> tom1502, is amarok using xine engine? (settings -> engines)
[06:02] <tom1502> yup
[06:02] <tom1502> already checked that
[06:03] <pag> tom1502, did you install those packages manually, or via somekind of metapackage?
[06:03] <tom1502> well, the extracodecs package
[06:03] <tom1502> via the tool - adept?!
[06:04] <tom1502> (only remebe synaptics from GNOME... or emerge ^^)
[06:04] <Beyer> Any ideas how to get the goddamn linux notice my mp3player... It's Creative Zen Vision M, 30gb
[06:05] <BluesKaj> !language | Beyer
[06:05] <ubotu> Beyer: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:05] <BluesKaj> Beyer, usb connect ?
[06:05] <Beyer> Oh... sorry for the christian people.
[06:05] <Beyer> Yes
[06:05] <tom1502> no ideas anyone?
[06:05] <pag> tom1502, you could try re-installing those packages.. "sudo apt-get remove libxine-extracodecs libxine1-ffmpeg; sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs libxine1-ffmpeg"
[06:06] <tom1502> lets see
[06:06] <tom1502> no success
[06:07] <pag> Beyer, gnomad2 could work..
[06:07] <tom1502> ok, thx anyway... gotta go now
[06:07] <BluesKaj> Beyer, have you checked System Menu/Storage Media
[06:08] <shadowhywind> anyone know how to fix Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory messages?
[06:13] <poison--> !jpg
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jpg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <poison--> how can i preview pics with konquie?
[06:14] <ardchoille> poison--: View > Preview
[06:14] <poison--> dat i know... but it only shows a grey pic
[06:15] <ardchoille> poison--: I don't know then.. it shows pics here but I turned it off.
[06:17] <poison--> !Konqueror
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <poison--> wtf
[06:17] <ubuntu__> i have na problem with an encrypted root install!where should i go for help?
[06:18] <ubuntu__> my system decrypted my root but then waits
[06:19] <Bauldrick> !anything
[06:19] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[06:20] <Jucato> :D
[06:20] <stdin> don't mess with ubotu, he's in a bad mood :p
[06:20] <Jucato> ah but it doesn't know anything about something....
[06:21] <bsm> hi, I'm using gutsy with latest updates and cannot run openoffice.org
[06:21] <ardchoille> stdin: That's due to lack of botsnacks
[06:22] <ardchoille> bsm: join #ubuntu+1
[06:22] <stdin> !botsnack
[06:22] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:22] <stdin> for being a good bot
[06:22] <stdin> mostly
[06:22] <ardchoille> :)
[06:22] <Jucato> !helpersnack | stdin
[06:22] <ubotu> stdin: Wow!   And Peanuts!

[06:23] <llutz> watch you cholesterol!
[06:23] <llutz> +r
[06:26] <poison--> lol
[06:28] <poison--> !share
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <victor_> hello
[06:33] <NickPresta> hi
[06:38] <uga> re
[06:38] <trogdor> damn there actually people here
[06:39] <trogdor> hello
[06:39] <BluesKaj> heh, don't damn us if you want help :)
[06:39] <trogdor> I was wondering about these new effects features in kde4
[06:39] <neil_kubuntu> Hello all
[06:39] <trogdor> what exactly is that all about?
[06:39] <stdin> ^they aren't people, just convincing robots
[06:40] <BluesKaj> !KDE4
[06:40] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[06:40] <trogdor> stdin: exactly! I see bot people >,>
[06:40] <neil_kubuntu> I am trying to install SynCE, so that I can sync my WM6 device with Kubuntu, and have been told that I need to "In your Linux kernel, make sure you have enabled usbserial, ipaq, and PPP support for async serial ports."
[06:40] <trogdor> BluesKaj: nah in relation to compiz-fusion, they adding some of that code into kde4?
[06:40] <neil_kubuntu> Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction, please?
[06:41] <BluesKaj> trogdor, dunno I haven't explored KDE4 all that much
[06:41] <trogdor> neil_kubuntu: if its there then its enabled, compile your own kernel if you don't want stuff enabled
[06:42] <neil_kubuntu> trogdor - so I should (somehow) check my kernel, to see if those modules are present? If they are, then, it should be enabled?
[06:42] <trogdor> BluesKaj: I thought it was kinda a joke seeing as compiz fusion is very bulky and unstable so far still in development. I mean kde already a coupling mess
[06:42] <BluesKaj> telling ppl to compile their own kernel is abit of overkill, trogdor
[06:42] <trogdor> neil_kubuntu: just try it see if it works, I dunno where you would check for that stuff
[06:43] <trogdor> BluesKaj: I told him not to, he said he wanted to
[06:43] <BluesKaj> anyway , naptime for me
[06:43] <trogdor> neil_kubuntu: which kernel you using? "uname -r"
[06:43] <neil_kubuntu> trogdor - dmesg isn't printing the information which the guide I am religiously following shows, so, my guess is that it is not enabled yet
[06:43] <neil_kubuntu> 2.6.20-16-generic
[06:44] <trogdor> neil_kubuntu: usbserial- flash sticks, ipaq- no clue, ppp- dial up stuff
[06:45] <neil_kubuntu> Thanks, trogdor - the modules are used to establish communications to a Windows Mobile device
[06:45] <neil_kubuntu> ipaq is the module for WM handhelds, I think
[06:45] <trogdor> neil_kubuntu: I found this article about ipaq http://www.handhelds.org/handhelds-faq/handhelds-faq.html sounds awesome
[06:46] <neil_kubuntu> Thanks, trogdor- much appreciated. Looks like I should Google each of the modules independently
[06:46] <trogdor> neil_kubuntu: try doing updatedb as root then locate ipaq see if you find anything on your system related to that
[06:48] <neil_kubuntu> trogdor- just fyi, that guide is for running Linux on an iPAQ, rather than syncing an iPAQ with Linux - however, interesting stuff anyway :)
[06:51] <robinson> hey, guys. Just did a clean install of 7.10 beta on my laptop
[06:51] <robinson> anyone having an issue with the volume control not actually lowering the volume?
[06:51] <robinson> it shows it graphically going down, but i have to open the mixer and turn down the PCM channel instead
[06:51] <stdin> #ubuntu+1 is for gutsy help
[06:52] <robinson> sorry
[07:02] <minuoh> hi, is there a way safely downgrade to feisty? in gutsy my wireless stopped working and resume from suspend crashes all the time...
[07:04] <pag> !downgrade | minuoh
[07:04] <stdin> !downgrade | minuoh
[07:04] <ubotu> minuoh: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[07:05] <stdin> who won?
[07:05] <minuoh> ok.,... what could be a reason for wireless networks stop showing in knetworkmanager? i still can see them in wifi-radar
[07:05] <stdin> minuoh: #ubuntu+1 is the gutsy support channel
[07:06] <navets> help: how do I burn a cd iso on a dvd? is it even possible?
[07:07] <minuoh> ok, general question: is there a way to work with wifi from console?
[07:07] <Zombine> navets you just do it.  Most burn apps will let you.
[07:07] <navets> Zombine: will it work with k3b? also will it work as if it was a iso CD?
[07:07] <stdin> navets: just choose to burn a DVD ISO from k3b
[07:08] <dthacker> minuoh: you can up/down the interface from console, and set adresses and gateways.  what are you trying to accomplish?
[07:08] <minuoh> dthacker: choose which network to connect to?
[07:08] <stdin> minuoh: use iwconfig
[07:08] <minuoh> knetworkmanager stopped working with wireless
[07:08] <Zombine> navets: Yeah.  burn a CD image, but put a DVD in.  I don't know for sure if it works on k3b, but it couldn't hurt to try.
[07:08] <poison--> im getting this msg when trying to access my linux share from the share machine: 6486: tree connect failed ( in samba)
[07:08] <minuoh> so i'm trying to figure out the problem
[07:08] <poison--> any ideas?
[07:09] <dthacker> minuoh: I don't know of a utility that does that at command line.
[07:09] <dthacker> minuoh: but that doesn't mean one doesn't exist.
[07:09] <Zombine> Also, my Realtek wifi card has WEP/WPA capabilities, but Ubuntu seems to think otherwise.
[07:09] <navets> stdin: ok, i will try it out, thanks.
[07:10] <minuoh> stdin: thanks, how do i work with wpa from console?
[07:11] <Zombine> I didn't see a driver for my model of card, so not really sure what to do...
[07:11] <stdin> minuoh: using wpa_supplicant I think
[07:11] <minuoh> ok i think i found: wpa_*
[07:16] <minuoh> i'm trying to understand... the led for wifi is off, means interface is not powered right? but then how wifi-radar sees the networks?
[07:20] <stdin> minuoh: the LED may be driver controlled, doesn't mean it's on or off
[07:22] <navets> hey guys burning the cd IsO on a dvd worked. I have a question tho, could you burn more then 1 iso on a dvd since its so big?
[07:23] <stdin> maybe with a multisession disk, but I've never tried
[07:24] <sub[t] rnl> I'm sure you can burn more than one .iso as data files
[07:24] <sub[t] rnl> but you'll have to have a way to mount it virtually
[07:26] <ladyofthenight^^> t
[07:27] <navets> k thanks guys
[07:30] <maverick> does anyone know of widgets for linux rather than gDesklets or SuoerKaramba ?!!
[07:30] <maverick> an no screenlets i don't use composites
[07:30] <maverick> composits
[07:33] <nosrednaekim> hey everyone.
[07:33] <jpatrick> hi
[07:33] <emilsedgh> hey nosrednaekim
[07:34] <asfak> i want to install flash plugin manually to konqueror. how do i do that. I installed libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox and got firefox flashplayer installed. but how to install in konq ?
[07:34] <nosrednaekim> so what problems are afloat?
[07:35] <emilsedgh> astan: install flashplugin-nonfree from adept
[07:35] <emilsedgh> asfak: install flashplugin-nonfree from adept manager
[07:36] <alex_> hola
[07:36] <asfak> i know that, but any manual installation hint. (actualy i am dialup user and getting adept manager to retrieve all source take 3-4 hours. and this is my new installation
[07:37] <alex_> alguien en espaniol?
[07:37] <adz21c> asfak: you need to enter that location into the place for konq to scan for plugins
[07:37] <nosrednaekim> !es
[07:37] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:38] <bazhang> nosrednaekim: heya!
[07:38] <alex_> okk, muchas gracias!
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> asfak: konqueror toolbar->settings->plugins
[07:38] <asfak> i did that too. but still does not work. plugin is scanned and seen there.
[07:38] <Dr_willis> maverick,  i was thinking opera had some desktop gizmoa
[07:38] <Dr_willis> maverick,  i was thinking opera had some desktop gizmos
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> asfak: on the other tab, did you enable it?
[07:39] <asfak> let me check
[07:41] <asfak> ok, the problem solved
[07:41] <asfak> thanks nosrednaekim
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> asfak: wasn't enabled?
[07:44] <bootsmorris> can i get compiz working in kubuntu i tried it but it wont work
[07:44] <asfak> no it was enabled, but i forgot to restart.
[07:44] <nosrednaekim> bootsmorris: yeah... you can. where is it stuck?
[07:44] <nosrednaekim> asfak:  ah :)
[07:47] <snellpojke> what is the different betwen ubuntu and kubuntu `?
[07:47] <snellpojke> :P
[07:47] <bazhang> kde?
[07:47] <asfak> how do i view quicktime in firefox ? (enabled in konq )
[07:47] <nosrednaekim> !kubuntu | snellpojke
[07:47] <ubotu> snellpojke: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[07:49] <snellpojke> !kde
[07:49] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[07:50] <snellpojke> ok ty
[07:50] <snellpojke> do it take more ram than ubuntu
[07:50] <snellpojke> ?
[07:50] <nosrednaekim> snellpojke: no
[07:51] <nosrednaekim> snellpojke: from my tests, not really
[07:51] <snellpojke> ok
[07:51] <bazhang> gpu maybe
[07:51] <nosrednaekim> bazhang: not really.
[07:51] <snellpojke> much lesser than xp?
[07:52] <bazhang> less than vista...
[07:52] <nosrednaekim> snellpojke: GPU or ram?
[07:52] <snellpojke> ram
[07:52] <bazhang> much much less than Mac or Windows.
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> Zelut: That Jucato...
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[07:54] <DaSkreech> I agree
[07:54] <snellpojke> so my celeron 256 ram is not going to lag so much like xp
[07:54] <snellpojke> xD
[07:54] <DaSkreech> What are we talking about?
[07:54] <bazhang> snellpojke: I have a Mac OS X intel core duo with 2GB of ram, and a Thinkpad with 2GB of ram, and guess which is faster?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> snellpojke: With care nope
[07:54] <snellpojke> ok
[07:54] <Dr_willis> snellpojke,  with that low end a system - you Might want to look into some veryt minimal linux disrtos.
[07:54] <tristan_> Hey, are the ubuntu packports down or something? I'm having trouble updating from them.
[07:55] <Dr_willis> tristan_,  been a lot of updates and server load last 3-5 days .
[07:55] <bazhang> 256 ram is not going to be very fun though. probably want to up that at least to 512, or 1GB.
[07:55] <snellpojke> but it isnt my computer
[07:55] <snellpojke> xD
[07:55] <Dr_willis> Puppy, DSL, or FeatherLinux.  may be best for that low end a box.
[07:55] <nosrednaekim> xubuntu is good too
[07:55] <tristan_> Dr_willis: It's cool, seems to work now.
[07:56] <bazhang> xubuntu is not that good.
[07:56] <nosrednaekim> I had ti running well on a 333mhz with 92MB of ram
[07:56] <sub[t] rnl> nosrednaekim: nice
[07:56] <nosrednaekim> sub[t] rnl: I was very surprised, yes
[07:57] <sub[t] rnl> linux is so versital, thats what makes it great
[07:57] <bazhang> no doubt
[07:57] <savetheWorld> e
[07:57] <bazhang> ?
[07:57] <sub[t] rnl> lower end ram might want to stay away from kde as a window manager, but I'm thinking 256 megs of ram is plenty for kde and ubuntu in general
[07:57] <Dr_willis> that - in the  end IS the defacto-stregenth of Linux. :)
[07:57] <sub[t] rnl> Dr_willis: agreed
[07:57] <savetheWorld> just a silent e, effectively nothing.. :)
[07:58] <bazhang> xfce
[07:58] <Dr_willis> Specilization is for Insects. :)
[07:58] <sub[t] rnl> hehe
[07:58] <bazhang> savetheWorld: what's your question?
[07:58] <tomi> can somebody help me pls with damn nvidia GF MX 440 driver. step by stap how to check what driver is installed is it the right driver, if not uninstall that and install the right one, and then config the resolution and the refresh rate. PLS
[07:58] <Lynoure> How can I change the colour of the Amarok analyzer?
[07:59] <snellpojke> so what linux do you recomend for my computer
[07:59] <Dr_willis> tomi,  try installing 'restricted-manager' and let it install them?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> bazhang: Were you asking something last night?
[07:59] <snellpojke> thats dont take much ram
[07:59] <DaSkreech> I recall having an answer for someting you said but you had gone
[07:59] <Dr_willis> snellpojke,  xubuntu if you want a ubuntu variant.
[07:59] <tomi> Dr_willis pls step by steb because im new to linux
[07:59] <Dr_willis> tomi,  you have read the '!nvidia' wiki factoid yet?
[07:59] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[07:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:00] <bazhang> DaSkreech: yeah haha how to get a vista box to boot a kubuntu install box--my brain couldn't get around changing the bios
[08:00] <tomi> !nvidias
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidias - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <tomi> !nvidia
[08:00] <snellpojke> Dr_willis
[08:00] <snellpojke> ok
[08:00] <snellpojke> ty
[08:00] <DaSkreech> bazhang: press F11/F12 at the bios info screen
[08:00] <Dr_willis> tomi,  fire up the package manager, install 'restricted-manager' run it with 'sudo resricted-manager' check the proper drivers for it to install/use/ restatrt/reboot machine
[08:00] <tarsonis> Hey, is it possible to remap the XF86VolumeUp/Down keys? I don't find them mapped somewhere in the kcontrol...
[08:00] <tarsonis> I am using kubuntu
[08:00] <nosrednaekim> tarsonis: yeah... in Kmix
[08:01] <DaSkreech> !kdesu | tomi
[08:01] <ubotu> tomi: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[08:01] <sub[t] rnl> Lynoure: have you looking around in the apearance tab in the settings?
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> tarsonis: what do you want them mapped to?
[08:01] <snellpojke> do you know what happened when i was trying to boot ubuntu yesterday ? i put a link wait
[08:01] <bazhang> DaSkreech: thanks! I got it going--man vista is a mess! wiped that baby off right away.
[08:01] <tarsonis> nosrednaekim, my new Software Volume control I created
[08:01] <DaSkreech> bazhang:  it gets worse as time goes on :)
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> tarsonis: you mean you want it to call a shell command?
[08:01] <tarsonis> nope
[08:01] <bazhang> DaSkreech: you have to use it? eewww!
[08:02] <DaSkreech> bazhang: yep
[08:02] <bazhang> uggh.
[08:02] <uga> DaSkreech: oh nice. Finally somebody completed that description of sudo, with the "why"
[08:02] <Lynoure> sub[t] rnl: yes, and yes. And googled too
[08:02] <bazhang> heya uga
[08:02] <tarsonis> whats this OSD when i press the keys?
[08:02] <uga> hi again bazhang
[08:02] <DaSkreech> uga: youy know you could change it right?
[08:03] <uga> DaSkreech: no, I don't. I thought it was allowed only to ops or so
[08:03] <tarsonis> Can anyone tell me whats that OSD when I use the XF86RaiseVolume and LowerVolume keys on my keyboard?
[08:03] <DaSkreech> uga: Try and make one
[08:03] <DaSkreech> uga: or change one
[08:03] <uga> tarsonis: heh, I just found it too. Dunno... lemme check if I can figure out
[08:04] <DaSkreech> its !factoid is description
[08:04] <uga> DaSkreech: is there a howto? the bot doesn't help
[08:04] <uga> DaSkreech: ah, cheers
[08:04] <DaSkreech> it will be submitted but not changed
[08:04] <tarsonis> uga, highlight me if you'll find out :)
[08:04] <snellpojke> http://www.fuskbugg.se/pub/misc/Ubuntu.JPG !!!!! so if i install xubuntu will i ahve the same problem?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> ubotu will pm you
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about will pm you - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <uga> sure
[08:04] <DaSkreech> join #ubuntu-bots and ask for it to be reviewed
[08:05] <DaSkreech> there you go
[08:05] <ladyofthenight^^> does anybody know if frys sells seasonic power supplies
[08:05] <DaSkreech> tarsonis: Sorry? what are you asking?
[08:06] <uga|away> uhmpf
[08:08] <uga> I lost the backlog
[08:08] <tarsonis> DaSkreech, i'm asking about the program thats making the OSD when I press the Volume Up und Down keys on my keyboard.
[08:08] <uga> anybody can tell who was asking about especial keys?
[08:08] <DaSkreech> snellpojke: Laptop?
[08:08] <uga> a few lines ago
[08:08] <uga> I figured out
[08:08] <tarsonis> uga, I was.
[08:08] <tarsonis> I guess.
[08:08] <uga> ah
[08:09] <snellpojke> DaSkreech
[08:09] <snellpojke> yes
[08:09] <uga> tarsonis: it's kmilo. They revamped the gui it seems
[08:09] <uga> but remains being the same service
[08:09] <DaSkreech> !laptop > snellpojke
[08:09] <tarsonis> But kmilo isn't running?!
[08:09] <tarsonis> tarsonis@iNSANE:~$ ps -A | grep kmilo
[08:09] <tarsonis> Nothing.
[08:09] <snellpojke> DaSkreech ty
[08:09] <DaSkreech> snellpojke: Most likely a power issue you can cheat your way out of it
[08:09] <uga> tarsonis: it's a kde service, under kcontrol->kde components->service manager->kmilo
[08:10] <uga> tarsonis: it's the thing that captures my volume up, mute, etc keys
[08:10] <tarsonis> kmilo is also not installed.
[08:10] <snellpojke> DaSkreech ok :P but how
[08:10] <uga> and shows the OSD
[08:10] <uga> tarsonis: don't you get a gray bar with white chars on it?
[08:10] <uga> tarsonis: on gutsy at least
[08:10] <uga> and volume percentage if voume changed
[08:10] <tarsonis> Yes I get it.
[08:10] <uga> that's kmilo. I stop it, then doesn't show =)
[08:10] <tarsonis> But adept says kmilo is not installed.
[08:11] <tarsonis> Well.
[08:11] <DaSkreech> snellpojke: noacpi I think
[08:11] <tomi> Dr_willis i have installed 'restricted-manager' and after running it says: NVIDIA accelerated graphic card Enabled and In use
[08:11] <tarsonis> It is kmilo howeve.
[08:11] <DaSkreech> that page will help
[08:11] <tarsonis> Though its not installed
[08:11] <tarsonis> Strange.
[08:11] <uga> heh, I checked just in case:;
[08:11] <uga> root@dpcuga:/home/uga# dpkg -S /usr/lib/kde3/kded_kmilod.so
[08:11] <uga> kmilo: /usr/lib/kde3/kded_kmilod.so
[08:11] <tomi> so now what?
[08:11] <tarsonis> Yeah - it was kmilo
[08:11] <tarsonis> Is there a way to configure it?
[08:12] <DaSkreech> anyway to the market!
[08:12] <uga> tarsonis: I belive one could map keys ... there was an X tool that showed each event captured... cant' recall
[08:12] <tarsonis> Thats not the point I guess.
[08:12] <tarsonis> kmilo just changes volume for the master channel
[08:12] <tarsonis> but thats not what i want
[08:12] <tomi> Dr_willis
[08:12] <uga> tarsonis: ah, I see what you mean...
[08:13] <tarsonis> i want to change the channel it modifies
[08:14] <tarsonis> Because my master channel is a very different one
[08:14] <uga> tarsonis: not sure if this may work for you: http://www.mepis.org/node/6195
[08:14] <uga> khotkeys
[08:14] <tarsonis> lets see
[08:15] <tarsonis> I guess i'll do it otherwise.
[08:15] <uga> tarsonis: how about providing a nice patch to kmilo =)
[08:16] <Dr_willis> tomi,  Huh?
[08:16] <tomi> Dr_willis i have installed 'restricted-manager' and after running it says: NVIDIA accelerated graphic card Enabled and In use
[08:17] <Dr_willis> tomi,    grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf              see if that puts out a line like ,..    Driver          "nvidia"
[08:18] <Dr_willis> if so - its installed.. you do need to restart the X server for the stuff to take effect.
[08:18] <tomi> ups :( No such file or directory
[08:18] <Dr_willis> You did a typo then.
[08:19] <Dr_willis> a little cleaner out put if ya use..
[08:19] <Dr_willis> willis@MythBox:~$ grep nvidia  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:19] <Dr_willis>         Driver          "nvidia"
[08:20] <tarsonis> uga, nah...
[08:20] <snellpojke> what is gutsy
[08:20] <uga> tarsonis: the patch shouldn't be complex. just a simple dialog
[08:20] <snellpojke> ?
[08:20] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, any luck with Mythtv ?
[08:20] <tomi> tomi@myKubuntu:~$ grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:20] <tomi> grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[08:20] <sub[t] rnl> snellpojke: gutsy is the 7.10 release of ubuntu
[08:21] <tarsonis> uga, yeah maybe, but coding is not my best skill :p
[08:21] <snellpojke> ok
[08:21] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  got Mythbuntu installed on this system now.
[08:21] <BluesKaj> cool
[08:21] <tarsonis> tombar_, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia ?
[08:21] <tarsonis> eh, tomi i mean
[08:21] <snellpojke> cya i will burn and install now
[08:21] <james_xxx> could someone tell me what repo to use to get w32codecs?
[08:21] <sub[t] rnl> gluck!
[08:21] <Dr_willis> james_xxx,  i use the medibuntu repos
[08:22] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[08:22] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[08:22] <tomi> tarsonis ?? that command agains says no such file...
[08:22] <Dr_willis> or seveas package
[08:22] <james_xxx> ty all
[08:22] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, OTA signals or cable or satellite ?
[08:22] <tarsonis> you dont have an xorg.conf
[08:22] <tarsonis> mh
[08:22] <Mr_Sonoma> !quicktime
[08:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:22] <sub[t] rnl> Dr_willis: agreed
[08:22] <sub[t] rnl> james_xxx: deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free
[08:22] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  just normal cable. :) cant get it to even handle the digigtal cable box.
[08:22] <sub[t] rnl> or follow the links the doc gave ya
[08:22] <tomi> tarsonis can u tell me steb by step how to fix that
[08:23] <tarsonis> tomi, well, i dont know, rerun xorg-config or something
[08:23] <james_xxx> ty sub[t] rnl
[08:23] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I am watching Digital Cable now. :P G4-CodeMonkeys show... its... weird.
[08:24] <sub[t] rnl> I havn't watched g4 in a while
[08:24] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, I'm using a composite feed from a sat receiver with TVtime ...gotta use the analog audio feed as a separate audio input ,but it works ok
[08:24] <sub[t] rnl> whats code monkeys about?
[08:24] <Dr_willis> sub[t] rnl,  thats.. hard to describe.. :)
[08:24] <Dr_willis> go to the G4 web site, codemonkeys page i guess. :)
[08:25] <morphinex> ah, mythtv
[08:25] <tomi> tarsonis i run kdesu nvidia-xconfig and now file is there
[08:25] <tarsonis> fine
[08:25] <sub[t] rnl> I watched an episode of bluejacking on g4 using linux
[08:25] <morphinex> so much trouble, but so cool once it works
[08:25] <sub[t] rnl> fun stuff
[08:25] <Dr_willis> at least the comecials on G4 - are things i MIGHT possibley be interested in.
[08:25] <Dr_willis> :) unlike the other channels
[08:25] <sub[t] rnl> hehe
[08:26] <tomi> now what to do ?
[08:26] <Dr_willis> 'this show also availiable as a G4 podcast' :) too bad i dont own a ipod.
[08:26] <tomi> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia output is
[08:26] <sub[t] rnl> yeah
[08:26] <tomi> # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
[08:26] <tomi> # nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder3)  Mon Feb 26 23:38:46 PST 2007
[08:26] <tomi>     Driver         "nvidia"
[08:26] <BluesKaj> oh G4 , those jerks ..took screensavers and call for help off the air to increase their revenue from the game companies ...to me they're nothing but a contstant commercial for games ...We still get Leo Laporte here in Canada on our G4 feed tho.
[08:27] <sub[t] rnl> we're going to start a Dr_willis iPod fund here
[08:27] <Dr_willis> tomi,  its showing Driver nvida.. so Its installed..
[08:27] <sub[t] rnl> leave your donations with the bot
[08:27] <sub[t] rnl> :P
[08:27] <Dr_willis> tomi,  you did restart the X server?   perhaps even reboot...
[08:27] <tomi> i will now. and see the results
[08:27] <morphinex> hey, it sounds like I'm having the same problem as tomi
[08:28] <morphinex> I can't get my damn X working either
[08:28] <morphinex> on my mythbuyntu box
[08:28] <BluesKaj> BBL, time to haul some more shingles up to the roof
[08:28] <sub[t] rnl> BluesKaj: use a loader, easier on your back
[08:29] <morphinex> And I have to tell you, the folks over at ubuntu-mythtv aren't too helpful ;)
[08:29] <morphinex> Honestly, makes me wish I had stayed with fedora for my myth box
[08:30] <sub[t] rnl> morphinex: so whats going on with it?  just crashing?
[08:30] <morphinex> X gives me the your X server isn't configured right error
[08:30] <morphinex> I used nvidia-xconfig (or whatever) and still the same del
[08:31] <sub[t] rnl> try reconfiguring it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:31] <sub[t] rnl> and if all else fails, post up your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:31] <sub[t] rnl> !paste
[08:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:32] <morphinex> Back when X was working I actually had nother problem too
[08:32] <morphinex> Seemed to be a font problem
[08:33] <Jimmsel> has anyone here ever used the siemens gigaset 108 pc card?
[08:33] <james_xxx> i can't get any of these seveas mirrors to work, hmmm
[08:34] <frank_> Knetworkmanager says: No active device.    Anyone else have this in kubuntu beta?
[08:34] <sub[t] rnl> james_xxx: after adding the repos to your sources.list, don't forget to apt-update
[08:35] <james_xxx> sub[t] rnl: i did the update, but the urls could not be resolved
[08:35] <Hart13> zdar all
[08:35] <james_xxx> i tried using several of the mirrors
[08:36] <tomi> Dr_willis after reboot all i had was a blank screen and i had to delete the xorg.conf file with mc so i can boot
[08:36] <tomi> what is the problem, please help
[08:36] <Dr_willis> tomi,  check that !nvidia page again. it may be you need the older nvidia package/drivers
[08:37] <Dr_willis> I dont have that exact card. so cant tell you much more then that. and to check the forums for issues with that exact card
[08:37] <Dr_willis> You could of just changed the 'Driver 'nvidia'' line back to 'Driver 'nv''
[08:37] <tomi> according to you what driver is for GF4 MX440? can u check that?
[08:38] <Dr_willis> !find nvidia-glx
[08:38] <ubotu> Found: nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-dev, nvidia-glx-new, nvidia-glx-new-dev, nvidia-glx-legacy (and 1 others)
[08:38] <Dr_willis> I woudl guess the    nvidia-glx-legacy   - is for the older cards
[08:38] <tomi> so how can i now uninstall the one i have and install nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:39] <Dr_willis> apt-get remove nvidia-glx and apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:39] <Dr_willis> then of course ya need to fix the xorg.conf to use "Driver nvidia" instead of "driver nv"
[08:40] <Dr_willis> I wonder if the !nvidia page mentions that card specificially
[08:40] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[08:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:40] <Level15> hey
[08:40] <Level15> anyone using the beta?
[08:40] <markit> hi, I've installed kubuntu into a laptop of a friend of mine. Today he has brought it back to me for further installation / setup. I've run "adept" for the second time in my life, but seems different from the first time, I mean, I don't have the "categories" tree with filter for kde or other packages... what could be wrong?
[08:40] <tomi> i think it doesnt
[08:41] <Dr_willis> GeForce4 MX 440 	0x0171 http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[08:41] <Dr_willis> uses the legacy driver -- according to the links i followed on that page.
[08:41] <Dr_willis> I thought the 'restricted-driver manager' tool even had 2 check boxs  one for the legacy, one for the newer
[08:42] <markit> oh, I see, adept is different from ... adept!
[08:42] <markit> depends what item I select in the menu.. so strange
[08:42] <ghozala> i need to install  hp printer laserjet 1020
[08:42] <fay_elf> Kubuntu-fi
[08:43] <markit> how can it be?
[08:43] <Dr_willis> markit,  it has a 'user-friendly' gui when used with the add/remove icon :)
[08:43] <uga> ghozala: laserjet printers are mostly postscript printers, if I'm not wrong
[08:43] <morphine> ah, so the problem with X seems to be that the nvidia kernel module is not loading
[08:43] <markit> Dr_willis: exactly! how can I activate it from the "regular" adept?
[08:43] <Dr_willis> markit,  i use the terminal.. :)
[08:44] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx
[08:44] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:44] <Dr_willis> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[08:44] <tomi> Dr_willis i have just run sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:44] <Dr_willis> you MIGHT need to    sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[08:44] <ghozala> uga some one gave me an url for the driver and it worked but i reinstalled my kubuntu
[08:44] <Dr_willis> tomi,  yes.. thats how the apt system works.
[08:44] <tomi> but now there isnt nvidia-xconfig
[08:45] <morphine> thanks, doc
[08:45] <tomi> and no xorg.conf file  in the X11 dir
[08:45] <tomi> :(
[08:45] <uga> ghozala: download drivers? kubuntu should have all those drivers preinstalled...
[08:45] <markit> Dr_willis: I usually use the terminal (aptitude), wondered why adept was so strange this time, now I know that are 2 different programs, but with the same icon, sigh
[08:45] <uga> ghozala: it's an HP, right?
[08:45] <Dr_willis> tomi,  because you depeted it.. instead of just editing it back.
[08:45] <uga> !printers
[08:45] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:45] <Dr_willis> apttitude is the apt stuff with yet another interface. :)
[08:45] <ghozala> but the driver for my  device not included so i have to put it manullay in the list
[08:45] <Dr_willis> appitude install linux-restricted-modules    would be 'about' the same as apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[08:46] <uga> ghozala: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersHp
[08:46] <Dr_willis> markit,  look in the /etc/X11 dir. there may be a backed up xorg.conf file
[08:46] <uga> ghozala: "In Feisty, it works fine. The driver that is included in Ubuntu does NOT work in previous versions. To get this printer to work go to [WWW]  http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ and follow the instructions there. Then when you add the printer make sure to select the second foo2zjs option (the one that does not say recommended).
[08:46] <ghozala> yeah
[08:46] <uga> ghozala: it's about your printer model
[08:47] <uga> but if you have feisty, it _should_ work without installing any drivers
[08:47] <ghozala> this one thanks
[08:47] <ghozala> i forgot about
[08:47] <uga> ghozala: if you're on gutsy/feisty, you shouldn't need to do anything according to those instructions
[08:47] <fay_elf> I am going to get kubuntu up and running soon, and need to use my nokia with an usb cable for web by edge so for frequent use, is there some modern solution ready on install?
[08:48] <morphine> sigh, same X error after I removed and reinstalled the nvidia driver
[08:48] <Level15> how do i tell adept to use a proxy server for downloads? and what abt the username/password for this proxy server?
[08:49] <fay_elf> Could i just plug the cable and use /tty/acm0 like any supported modem through the networking applets?
[08:50] <Dr_willis> Level15,  synaptic has a 'settings/network/proxy' tab i notice..
[08:50] <Dr_willis> not in kde.. so cant check adept
[08:50] <droach> anyone know how to set up my tv card in ubuntu
[08:50] <Dr_willis> droach,  first - check that the tv tuner card even has any linux support at all. :)
[08:51] <markit> mm I've selected some games, and it gives me an error when I tell to apply modifications... not very good for my friend, sigh
[08:51] <ghozala> uga: how can i get visual style for my kubuntu like desktop cube and vista styles etc...
[08:51] <Level15> yeah, well, i have adept, not synaptics... and i really don't feel like installing a lot of gnome stuff
[08:51] <droach> it should it hauppage/wintv
[08:51] <Dr_willis> markit,  be sure to 'update' the repositories  then try installing them again
[08:51] <Dr_willis> markit,  also at this time - thers a lot of se4rver load/timeouts going on.
[08:52] <Level15> n/m, already started the update w/o proxy... it's just that with the proxy it's soooo much faster...
[08:52] <morphine> will the nv driver use the s-video out on my video card?
[08:52] <markit> Dr_willis: I've found the wireless connection was stopped... mmm does not work much long, sigh
[08:52] <ghozala> how can i Install Software Development (gcc) package
[08:53] <droach> sudo apt-get install gcc
[08:53] <markit> mm does not work either
[08:53] <markit> adept works fine, add/remove does not
[08:53] <BluesKaj> Level15, synaptic doesn't install gnome apps unless you're using gnome desktop
[08:54] <Level15> synaptic uses gnome libs, i think
[08:54] <BluesKaj> synaptic finds hidden apps better than adept
[08:54] <Level15> hidden apps?
[08:55] <ghozala> hay how can i fix this Error: /usr/include/stdio.h is not installed!
[08:56] <BluesKaj> yeah for example growisofs is an iso component requirement for dvd authoring , but adept doesn't show it in the searchbox where as synaptic will
[08:57] <nosrednaekim> heya BluesKaj
[08:57] <BluesKaj> hi nosrednaekim ...what's up ?
[08:57] <ghozala> hay how can i fix this Error: /usr/include/stdio.h is not installed!
[08:57] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: just took the SAT.... 5 hours long!!! i'm beat.
[08:58] <nosrednaekim> ghozala: where/when did you get that error
[08:58] <BluesKaj> SAT for University entrance ?
[08:58] <ghozala> i was installing foo2zjs
[08:58] <fay_elf> So one can/cannot use a usb connected cell phone like any modem through desktop applets without doing scripts,  using ancient wvdial, gprs easy (not) connect etc, ...?
[08:58] <ghozala> for printer
[08:59] <ghozala>       *** Error: /usr/include/stdio.h is not installed!
[08:59] <ghozala>       ***
[08:59] <ghozala>       *** Install Software Development (gcc) package
[08:59] <ghozala>       ***
[08:59] <ghozala> make: *** [all-test]  Error 1
[09:00] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yeah....
[09:00] <nosrednaekim> all I can say is that the creators better be glad that Bush legalized torture.
[09:01] <frank_> ghozala: you're missing some standard development packages.    Install the build-essential package
[09:01] <nosrednaekim> ghozala: run "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[09:01] <morphinex> So maybe the problem is that the nvidia kernel module is for some reason no loading at boot
[09:02] <morphinex> Can I put nvidia into /etc/modules ?
[09:02] <morphinex> And make it load?
[09:02] <nosrednaekim> morphinex: thats not going to do much good
[09:02] <nosrednaekim> more than likely the versions are mis-matching.
[09:02] <Angelus> hi guyz
[09:03] <morphinex> nosrednaekim: how can I learn if that is the problem?
[09:03] <ghozala> thanks guys
[09:03] <uga> morphinex: what does "modprobe nvidia" say
[09:03] <BluesKaj> yeah, nosrednaekim ,  I took similar tests 1n 1962 ...teachers told me I wasn't intelligent enuff to attend university and succeed as a student ...I think my parents were relieved that they didn't have to pay for my schooling :)
[09:03] <Angelus> i had a via chipset (k8m890 unsuported by X) and kubuntu when it loads the livecd crashes at loading with a screen full of colours, now i bought a video card (GeForce 8400) and same thing , could it be that the video card is too new?
[09:03] <morphinex> uga: FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[09:04] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: heh... well I already got a full scholarship to a college, I just have to get in :)
[09:04] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: yep... it is :)
[09:04] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: go get gutsy beta
[09:04] <Angelus> ah
[09:04] <uga> morphinex: okay, that's due to either lrm modules being missing, or lrm commands being missing. Did you uninstall any linux-restricted* pack? or how did you install nvidia binary. From nvidia site?
[09:04] <BluesKaj> right on nosrednaekim ...I hope you get in
[09:04] <ghozala> nosrednaekim: where can i get kubuntu styles , desktop cube and vista styles for kubuntu
[09:04] <james_xxx> nosrednaekim: how is gutsy working for you right now?
[09:04] <Angelus> so probably thats the reason why the livecd crashes at loading (both on the chipset and graphic card) because the computer is too new nosrednaekim ?
[09:05] <uga> morphinex: the error isn't about not being able to load the module, no version mismatch
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: no probably not...
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> ghozala: www.kde-look.org
[09:05] <uga> morphinex: what package did you install Nvidia*.run, or ubuntu nvidia package?
[09:05] <BluesKaj> well , time to put the mule back to work ... BB in 15 mins or so
[09:05] <fay_elf> I think that a nifty way to install nvidia-binary is to do a recovery boot
[09:05] <morphinex> uga: no, i installed nvidia-glx-legacy
[09:05] <Angelus> the chipset  is unsupported by Xorg and the graphic card too knew, so whats the reason about that screen of colours if not because they are too knew nosrednaekim ?
[09:06] <Angelus> btw nosrednaekim  only kubuntu and windows vista does this.
[09:06] <morphinex> uga: and I also isntalled linux-restricted-modules
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> james_xxx: really well! Sound quality is better... wireless support is better, but suspend doesn't work with the fglrx drivers
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: how new is the computer?
[09:07] <fay_elf> Read the info on nvidia-legacy in the manager, it has a _warning_ :(
[09:07] <james_xxx> nosrednaekim: awesome to hear. i was suddenly having some issues playing videos in feisty (never had a problem before today), could not figure it out, and decided to upgrade right now :-D
[09:07] <Angelus> nosrednaekim, 9months? or less. the chipset doesnt have a driver on Xorg, (only openchrome has it) , and the graphic card i bought it today
[09:07] <uga> morphinex: check /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video
[09:07] <uga> morphinex: that's what modprobe is trying to load and why it fails
[09:08] <morphinex> ok
[09:08] <uga> morphinex: it tries running /sbin/lrm-video nvidia_legacy $CMDLINE_OPTS
[09:08] <uga> check if that lrm-video command is installed
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: do any other linux distros work? like PClinuxOS?
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> james_xxx: yeah... its pretty stable.
[09:08] <Angelus> nosrednaekim, all distros work, only kubutnu and windows vista doesn't
[09:08] <morphinex> uga: yeah, it is there
[09:08] <uga> morphinex: you can do something else... remove all restricted modules package, comment out all lines in lrm-video file, and install nvidia's installer
[09:08] <morphinex> uga: there is some other stuff in there too
[09:08] <uga> yeah
[09:08] <uga> that's the line that corresponds to your driver though
[09:09] <uga> (nvidia-legacy)
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: then all I can really suggest is try gutsy, and if that doesn't work, use PClinuxOS :)
[09:09] <bazhang> Angelus: ?
[09:09] <morphinex> install nvidia_legacy /sbin/lrm-video nvidia_legacy $CMDLINE_OPTS
[09:09] <fay_elf> Opensuse is good. But even it needs a console trick to activate the driver.
[09:09] <bazhang> fay_elf: 10.3?
[09:09] <Angelus> i use gentoo nosrednaekim  , but the thingi s i wanted to know if the problem is kubutnu and vista not supporting my hardware or a damaged mother board :S
[09:10] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: doubt it..
[09:10] <morphinex> uga: so you think I should download the driver from nvidia and insgtall it?
[09:10] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: probably just bad hardware detetection
[09:10] <fay_elf> 10.2 did. havent been there for a while
[09:10] <Angelus> oh
[09:10] <Angelus> i see
[09:14] <_StefanS_> anyone know where kwrite is in the kmenu ? I cant find it :)
[09:14] <nosrednaekim> _StefanS_: I don't think its installed by default...
[09:15] <nosrednaekim> kate is in utilities though
[09:15] <_StefanS_> well it is, its just not present in the menu
[09:15] <_StefanS_> I want kwrite not slow kate :D
[09:15] <nosrednaekim> add it then :)
[09:16] <_StefanS_> hmm It seems like my menus have root permissions in my home folder.. thats odd
[09:16] <_StefanS_> cant remember me doing that
[09:18] <uga> morphinex: if you are sure you followed all instructions to make it work with ubuntu packages and still doesn't work, maybe yes
[09:18] <uga> morphinex: I'd suggest you use insmod, instead of modprobe first
[09:18] <uga> if you can find the nvidia.ko module
[09:18] <uga> and try load it
[09:18] <uga> insmod needs the full path of the *.ko module
[09:19] <morphinex> I did locate nvidia.ko and nothing
[09:19] <uga> morphinex: then it's not built... iirc lrm named it nvidia.o
[09:19] <uga> it's missing a linkage, I think
[09:20] <bootsmorris> i have a quuestion
[09:20] <morphinex> uga: did updatedb and still locate didn't find anything
[09:20] <uga> morphinex: not even nvidia.o?
[09:20] <uga> not .ko, .o
[09:20] <nosrednaekim> bootsmorris: ask
[09:21] <morphinex> uga: /var/cache/restricted-manager/nvidia.oldconf
[09:21] <morphinex> that's it
[09:21] <uga> uhm...
[09:21] <bootsmorris> i was updating 7.10 and my laptop shut off b/c of it overheating.  how do i finish the install process
[09:21] <uga> morphinex: uhm... I wonder if you are missing to install some nvidia package...
[09:21] <bootsmorris> i was using adept
[09:21] <uga> morphinex: you could try installing nvidia's site installers then :/
[09:22] <morphinex> I have an nvidiafb.ko file
[09:22] <fay_elf> Just level the hd and reinstall outside
[09:22] <uga> no, that's the framebuffer driver
[09:22] <morphinex> I lso have an nvidia_dr.so
[09:22] <uga> uhm... I don't know that one
[09:22] <nosrednaekim> bootsmorris: run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:22] <morphinex> err, nvidia_drv.ko
[09:23] <uga> nto sure... maybe it's for chipset support. I don't have such a file
[09:23] <bootsmorris> no i alreadyt have 7.10 installled i was installing updates
[09:23] <uga> morphinex: that may be the one? not sure
[09:23] <morphinex> ok, I'll try it
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> bootsmorris: oh... then just open adept and restart....
[09:24] <uga> morphinex: use insmod /../../...../nvidida_drv.ko. As modprobe will fail otherwise
[09:24] <bootsmorris> restart what
[09:24] <bootsmorris> ??
[09:24] <nosrednaekim> bootsmorris: the update
[09:24] <bootsmorris> ok
[09:25] <morphinex> uga: the file is it /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[09:25] <frank_> a
[09:25] <morphinex> does that sound more or less right?
[09:25] <uga> morphinex: no, that's not a kernel module =)
[09:25] <uga> you said .ko and that confused me
[09:25] <Level15> ok, so how do i tell upgrade-manager to use a proxy?
[09:25] <Level15> or apt
[09:26] <bootsmorris> ok
[09:26] <morphinex> uga: sorry, my bad ;)
[09:26] <morphinex> I DO have nvidia-agp.ko
[09:26] <morphinex> I'm sure that one is a ko
[09:27] <uga> I don't think that's the gfx card driver
[09:27] <uga> morphinex: testing wont' harm though ;)
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> nvidia-agp is something for the nv driver
[09:27] <morphinex> alright
[09:28] <morphinex> I could avoid this whole thing if the nv driver supported s-video out... does it?
[09:28] <bootsmorris> how do i resume the last set of updates that i installed
[09:28] <uga> morphinex: did you really install nvidia-glx-legacy ?
[09:28] <morphinex> uga: i really did
[09:28] <frank_> morphinex: nope no tvout with nv
[09:28] <bazhang> wow
[09:29] <uga> morphinex: a sec, phone
[09:29] <morphinex> uga: nvidia-glx-legacy is already the newest version.
[09:30] <uga> morphinex: back from phone
[09:31] <uga> morphinex: you can check what the package installed, by doing: dpkg -L nvidia-glx-legacy
[09:31] <uga> that list should include the driver, in theory (among lots of other stuff)
[09:32] <morphinex> uga: honestly, I see no .ko file in the list
[09:32] <uga> no nvidia.o, as I said?
[09:32] <uga> or nvidia_legacy.o
[09:32] <rene> Need some help with kismet
[09:32] <morphinex> Let me copy and paste
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> uga: isn't that included in the kernel restricted drivers package?
[09:33] <uga> nosrednaekim: NVIDIA binary 'legacy' kernel module source
[09:33] <Doctor_Nick> a mood house?
[09:33] <uga> nosrednaekim: that's the description of the glx package
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> uga: source?
[09:33] <uga> so I'm not sure
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> oh.. hmm
[09:33] <uga> binary... source? =)
[09:33] <morphinex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39796/
[09:34] <uga> right, it's not there
[09:34] <morphinex> I wonder how this happened
[09:35] <uga> morphinex: what I don't know is what package usually provides the nvidia.kol
[09:35] <uga> ko
[09:35] <DaSkreech> Well it all began trillions of years ago.....
[09:35] <bazhang> hehe
[09:35] <uga> is there a .deb package search?
[09:35] <savetheWorld> DaSkreech: Tell us a story Daddy!
[09:35] <bazhang> more like 6000
[09:35] <uga> ie, file search
[09:35] <DaSkreech> Gather around children
[09:35] <BluesKaj> once upon a time in the west
[09:35] <minisrule192> hi
[09:36] <DaSkreech> Once upon a time a long long time ago there was one who held the source code for all and gave it to none
[09:36] <DaSkreech> Yes yes it's true
[09:36] <morphinex> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22/+bug/148943
[09:36] <minisrule192> Two users walked into a bar, /quit and /exit... /exit got bored and walked out, who was left?
[09:36] <morphinex> That is my bug, I think
[09:36] <uga> morphinex: in theory... linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-12-generic
[09:36] <uga> morphinex: replace the kernel number with your uname -r
[09:36] <bazhang> !bug#1
[09:36] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:36] <DaSkreech> minisrule192: That's mean
[09:36] <uga> morphinex: can you check dpkg -L on that linux-restricted-modules package?
[09:36] <BluesKaj> right minisrule192 ..wonder who will
[09:36] <minisrule192> lol
[09:37] <BluesKaj> just hit the space bar first
[09:37] <Beyer> BluesKaj: What was it again, the mp3player thing.. Storage Media?
[09:38] <morphinex> uga
[09:38] <morphinex> uga: no luckl
[09:38] <morphinex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39798/
[09:38] <Beyer> Sorry for leaving without saying anything.. :D
[09:38] <BluesKaj> yeah  Beyer
[09:38] <uga> damn
[09:38] <DaSkreech> stdin: why the ban?
[09:38] <uga> morphinex: lemme install the damn packages, and I'll let you know (after that I'll remove them back ;))
[09:38] <BluesKaj> ok, time to turn into a mule again for a few mins ...only 8 bundles to go
[09:39] <stdin> DaSkreech: because he's doing that in multiple channels trying to get people to type "/quit"
[09:39] <jpatrick> DaSkreech: top secret
[09:39] <tommymann> I'm working on a feisty kubuntu and we can't get wired connection, what's worse is when it's plugged in the internet shuts down
[09:39] <tommymann> something bad wrong is going on
[09:39] <uga> morphinex: uh, that's not linux-restricted-modules whole pack. or else it's broken
[09:39] <uga> it can't contain just a changelog
[09:39] <uga> it's a huge pack
[09:39] <morphinex> uga: yeah, I'm getting the feeling that something is seriously broken
[09:39] <DaSkreech> maybe it's a whole lot of changelog?
[09:40] <bazhang> tommymann: the internet shuts down?
[09:40] <tommymann> it's a fresh install and it does it from the livecd
[09:40] <tommymann> yeah, like our home network
[09:40] <tommymann> it kicks me off too
[09:40] <tommymann> she doesn't just not get internet
[09:40] <tommymann> I don't get internet when she's plugged in
[09:40] <tommymann> it's really strange
[09:40] <BluesKaj> same host
[09:41] <tommymann> yeah
[09:41] <BluesKaj> BBL
[09:41] <DaSkreech> Voting?
[09:41] <bazhang> tommymann: are you using knetworkmanager?
[09:42] <BluesKaj> hauling shingles for my roof DaSkreech
[09:42] <morphinex> uga: heh, here we go
[09:42] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Ha ha Go man go
[09:42] <morphinex> uga: some kind of dependency loop
[09:42] <Beyer> BluesKaj: The mp3player gets this "connected" pic on the screen, now it doesn't
[09:42] <stdin> uga: linux-restricted-modules-generic = meta-package
[09:42] <ginoman> oh well, no one here reads animorphs appearantly
[09:42] <Beyer> With my other comp (has windows) it does as soon as the computer is supporting it.
[09:43] <bazhang> tommymann: you still there?
[09:43] <BluesKaj> we don't have Mule politics in Canada , justr stubborn animals by a different name
[09:43] <morphinex> linux-restricted-modules-generic: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic but it is not installble
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: A's?
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[09:44] <morphinex> uga: I'm thinking that maybe I'll just use the nvidia-provided thing
[09:44] <tommymann> yeah sorry got distracted
[09:44] <uga> weird
[09:44] <uga> I just installed and it's there... BUT
[09:44] <uga> uga@dpcuga:~$ dpkg -S /lib/modules/2.6.22-12-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
[09:44] <uga> dpkg: /lib/modules/2.6.22-12-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko not found.
[09:44] <uga> lol
[09:44] <tommymann> bazhang: yeah we're using knetworkmanager
[09:44] <bazhang> tommymann: do you use knetworkmanager?
[09:44] <uga> >   linux-restricted-modules linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic linux-restricted-modules-common linux-restricted-modules-generic
[09:44] <uga> >   nvidia-kernel-common
[09:45] <bazhang> tommymann: does it see your network?
[09:45] <uga> those are the packs that I just got installed by dependancies
[09:45] <tommymann> nope
[09:45] <morphinex> hmm
[09:45] <tommymann> it's greyed out
[09:45] <acey> Can someone help me get rid of GRUB so I can install a new slave hd?
[09:45] <tommymann> I've been to two county fairs and three goat shows and I've never seen any shit like it
[09:45] <acey> it keeps giving me error 5 when i put in the new hd and swap it out for this one im using
[09:45] <DaSkreech> !grub | acey
[09:45] <ubotu> acey: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:45] <stdin> !language
[09:45] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:45] <bazhang> does knetworkmanager require administration mode? I forget.
[09:46] <tommymann> no
[09:46] <tommymann> only to configure
[09:46] <acey> No I mean I like want to keep GRUB, but I want to install kubuntu to a new secondary hd
[09:46] <morphinex> uga: I can't install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic
[09:46] <morphinex> Says it has no installation candidate
[09:46] <acey> but when I pull out my second hd it gives me error 5
[09:46] <uga> morphinex: you should have one for your kernel version. This is gutsy
[09:46] <bazhang> where is MS-SUSE?
[09:47] <JiriN> acey: grub-install /path/to/seondhdd
[09:47] <morphinex> uga: Mine is gutsy too :)
[09:47] <acey> ....
[09:47] <acey> srry
[09:47] <acey> ok let me put it this way
[09:47] <acey> I have 2 hd
[09:47] <acey> one has windows
[09:47] <DaSkreech> bazhang: Novell?
[09:47] <acey> one has kubuntu
[09:47] <bazhang> tommymann: you need to configure it...
[09:47] <acey> I want to get rid of my second one with kubuntu on it
[09:47] <acey> and oput a new bigger second one in
[09:47] <DaSkreech> acey: Right
[09:47] <tommymann> bazhang: I tried, no dice. Just enable and disable
[09:47] <acey> but when i put the new one in
[09:47] <DaSkreech> and copy over the install ?
[09:48] <bazhang> DaSkreech: he was in #Suse, but got kicked out for some reason.
[09:48] <acey> GRUB gives me error 5 on boot
[09:48] <tommymann> in the configurator the ethernet port shows up
[09:48] <JiriN> acey: grub-install /path/to/seondhdd
[09:48] <bazhang> tommymann: this is in feisty?
[09:48] <Doctor_Nick> is there a default shortcut key for bringing up the process manager or can you congigure one?
[09:48] <Doctor_Nick> configure
[09:48] <tommymann> bazhang: yeah
[09:48] <stdin> morphinex: you may just have to wait a while, or use another mirror for the package to appear
[09:48] <acey> but the hd I want to install it to isn't in my computer yet becuase I can't even boot my computer with it in
[09:49] <bazhang> tommymann: can you access it from another computer?
[09:49] <Beyer> So.. I have a creative zen vision m, 30gb. The problem is that the linux doesn't detect it. Any ideas?
[09:49] <morphinex> uga: ok, removing linux-restricted-modules-common is removing  whole bunch of stuff
[09:49] <acey> I have to have both my 1st and 2nd hd's in with both winxp and kubuntu on each just to boot my computer up
[09:49] <acey> so i can select an os
[09:49] <DaSkreech> acey: use the Live CD
[09:55] <tommymann> bazhang: can I access what? The internet. I can access it with all three other computers as long as the kub feisty isn't plugged in
[09:55] <morphinex> including nvidia-glx-legacy
[09:55] <acey> Will I still be able to boot into windows xp after im done?
[09:55] <acey> like will it be exactly as it is now?
[09:55] <acey> but with my new hd
[09:55] <DaSkreech> tommymann: sounds like you are running dhcp on the feisty box
[09:55] <bazhang> tommymann: does your isp limit the number of computers that can connect to your service? some do.
[09:55] <DaSkreech> acey: Yes please read the url ubotu sent you
[09:55] <morphinex> oh boy, now it wants to install kernel version 2.6.22-12
[09:55] <acey> kk ill just install it and hope it works then
[09:55] <acey> thanks
[09:55] <tommymann> no, plus I have all the other computers except this box and it shut down
[09:55] <tommymann> I am running dhcp on the feisty since that's the default
[09:55] <morphinex> stdin: you might be right, I may have to wait until gutsy final comes out to use this machine as a mythtv frontend
[09:55] <rathel> How do I go through folders and subfolder looking for specific files and copy them? I know how to remove find . -name name -print0 | xargs -0 rm How would you copy? Thanks.
[09:55] <bazhang> tommymann: like DaSkreech said, you may have a static address, or is it dynamic (ie changes every time)?
[09:55] <tommymann> dynamic, I believe
[09:55] <bazhang> tommymann: are you sure?
[09:55] <shadowhywind> Hay all, I was wondering If there was a issue with knetworkmanager from the last update?
[09:55] <tommymann> bazhang: not sure
[09:55] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: gutsy for fiesty?
[09:55] <tommymann> bazhang: how do I check for certain
[09:55] <shadowhywind> I believe fiesty *how can i double check?*
[09:55] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: I hope that was or feisty
[09:55] <shadowhywind> i am running 7.04 which i believe is fiesty correct?
[09:55] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: ERR!
[09:55] <bazhang> yes
[09:55] <stdin> morphinex: maybe, but I was referring the package it's looking for "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic"
[09:55] <morphinex> stdin: well, I can't get X working until I can get that package
[09:55] <DaSkreech> Whee
[09:55] <stdin> morphinex: sometimes it takes a while for all the bits to land
[09:55] <shadowhywind> its like i did the kde updates *which was last week or two weeks ago* and i have noticed that ever since then, my knetworkmanager hasn't been detecting any wireless networks, nor tells me if i am connected by wireless or ethernet
[09:56] <morphinex> stdin: the good news.... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/149707
[09:56] <tommymann> shadowhywind: Our problems are similar
[09:57] <shadowhywind> so is this a bug caused from the last update?
[09:57] <tommymann> possibly; mine was from a fresh disk
[09:57] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: could be
[09:57] <shadowhywind> oh
[09:57] <tommymann> from yesterday
[09:57] <tommymann> so it probably has the update in question
[09:58] <DaSkreech> >_<
[09:59] <shadowhywind> guess we just have to wait till the next upgrade
[09:59] <shadowhywind> also roughly speaking, when is gusty supposed to be released
[09:59] <usser> shadowhywind: oct 15th
[09:59] <BluesKaj> tommymann, what router or gateway are you using ?
[09:59] <bazhang> 10/18
[09:59] <usser> well 18th
[09:59] <ghozala_> HELP!!!! i ve got compiz-fusion and i installed it already but when i run compiz-fusin icon it doesnt open....can anybody help me with this plz
[09:59] <shadowhywind> oh thats not to bad
[10:00] <nosrednaekim> ghozala_: is that the exact command you run?
[10:00] <usser> ghozala_: try alt+f2 type in compiz --replace
[10:00] <tommymann> BluesKaj: the 2wire the DSL people gave us
[10:00] <shadowhywind> guess I will just wait till the 18th and do that update, is gusty being released with kde 4?
[10:01] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: it has it, but its not default
[10:01] <ghozala_> usser not working
[10:01] <BluesKaj> 2wires are difficult to configure , even on windows
[10:01] <ghozala_> and i open it from the menu not by a command and it loads and never opens
[10:01] <shadowhywind> fun, I tried installing the beta version, and it was seriously messed up. everytime i tried to opena program it opened a different one
[10:02] <usser> ghozala_: open up the terminal type compiz --replace and pastebin the output
[10:03] <acey> Can anyone tell me how to install grub to my master hd if it is already installed to my slave hd?
[10:03] <acey> so i can boot my computer with just the master hd in?
[10:04] <nosrednaekim> acey: sure, "sudo grub-install /dev/hda"
[10:04] <acey> will that change anything on the slave hd?
[10:04] <acey> like, if i did that will it still boot with both hds in?
[10:04] <nosrednaekim> acey: shouldn't.... as long as what you want to boot is on the master
[10:04] <usser> acey: that is if your master is hda
[10:04] <nosrednaekim> usser: isn't that ALWAYS the case?
[10:04] <nosrednaekim> I guess it could be hdc..
[10:05] <usser> nosrednaekim: well theres sda
[10:05] <acey> kk thanks, im just trying to use a new hd i got as slave so yea
[10:05] <usser> nosrednaekim: on most systems
[10:05] <acey> oo how do i tell what the master is? its primary master
[10:05] <nosrednaekim> usser: that would be hda then
[10:05] <acey> im prety sure its hda tho
[10:05] <acey> kk thanks
[10:05] <nosrednaekim> *acey
[10:06] <usser> nosrednaekim: huh?
[10:06] <usser> nosrednaekim: i dont even have hda in /dev
[10:06] <acey> wait, if im installing it on the same hd as winxp, will that affect winxp if I ever wanted it normal again without linux at all?
[10:06] <usser> acey: yes
[10:06] <nosrednaekim> usser: sorry, wrong SN
[10:06] <acey> oo it will affect it?
[10:06] <usser> acey: it will overwrite xps boot loader
[10:06] <acey> oooo....
[10:06] <acey> maybe i shouldnt do that then lol
[10:07] <acey> how can I use xps boot loader then again and get rid of grub?
[10:07] <usser> acey: grub can boot xp too
[10:07] <acey> i know im just trying to install a new hd and I didn't want anything to happen to my primary hd that isn't necassary
[10:07] <usser> acey: boot from windows cd go to recovery console and issue fixmbr command
[10:07] <nosrednaekim> acey: yeah, you can do that from a windows recovery/install disc
[10:08] <acey> k so just sue the recovery disc that came with my computer and type fixmbr?
[10:08] <acey> use*
[10:08] <nosrednaekim> acey: not sure how windows does it... but that sounds right... :)
[10:08] <usser> acey: yes
[10:08] <acey> k ill search google for the exact command but thanks usser and nos for the help
[10:08] <acey> ill let yah know how it goes
[10:09] <usser> acey: this was the exact command lol
[10:09] <DaSkreech> it's fixboot for Windows XP
[10:09] <usser> fixmbr
[10:09] <acey> oo ok
[10:09] <usser> and sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[10:09] <acey> o wait, then if i use fixmbr will I have to install grub?
[10:09] <acey> or will it go back to normal?
[10:09] <acey> and won't dual boot
[10:10] <usser> acey: when u do fixmbr no dual boot no grub just winxp boot loader
[10:10] <acey> oo thats what I was wanting, thanks man :)
[10:10] <usser> acey: when u do grub dual boot
[10:10] <DaSkreech> acey: Anything with windows kills all other OS
[10:10] <DaSkreech> Windows always assumes the only thing you want on it is windows
[10:10] <rowr> test
[10:10] <DaSkreech> fail
[10:10] <acey> lol k thanks
[10:10] <usser> DaSkreech: actually not true windows loader can load other os's too not just windows
[10:11] <DaSkreech> usser: I said it  assumes
[10:11] <BluesKaj> always better to install windows first, then there's only a small edit in grub to fix the bootloader
[10:11] <nosrednaekim> rowr: it works
[10:11] <DaSkreech> I didn't say it's not possible
[10:11] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: its already installed
[10:11] <usser> DaSkreech: o ok
[10:11] <BluesKaj> right
[10:11] <bazhang> BluesKaj: always better to install everything first--my good neighbor Kubuntu.
[10:12] <bazhang> best dual boot distro around
[10:12] <BluesKaj> windows first bazhang
[10:12] <DaSkreech> bazhang: Thats a powerful statement. How did you come to that?
[10:12] <nosrednaekim> heh.... all distros are about equal with dual booting now... its just grub.
[10:12] <bazhang> DaSkreech: powerful as in bad?
[10:13] <nosrednaekim> as in "sweeping"
[10:13] <BluesKaj> ok , back to the mule job ...4 more bundles and i'm done for today
[10:13] <nosrednaekim> as in "doesn't work"
[10:13] <nosrednaekim> !doesn'twork
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn'twork - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <DaSkreech> bazhang: as in it sounds like you did research. can you back that up
[10:13] <nosrednaekim> !doesn't work
[10:13] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[10:13] <DaSkreech> Since .. you know it's using the same software as all the rest of them
[10:13] <bazhang> DaSkreech: ok
[10:13] <morphinex> uga: so, it turns out that the fix may be as simple as... apt-get update
[10:14] <morphinex> uga: because there was a known bug or something
[10:14] <morphinex> uga: thanks for you help
[10:15] <bazhang> DaSkreech: I did a lot of research on it, and Ubuntu, Kubuntu is by far the best for using as a second install--better than Mandriva/PCLOS; way better than Suse, and tons better than Fedora--Wolvix is another that is top of the class in that regard; but nothing comes even remotely close to Ubuntu/Kubuntu.
[10:18] <deviance> Where would adepts icon be located?
[10:18] <bazhang> sorry for the really long off-topic
[10:19] <deviance> !adeptfix
[10:19] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:19] <DaSkreech> deviance: prob /usr/share/icons or somesuch
[10:19] <bazhang> isn't that dpkg --configure -a --force? just kidding.
[10:19] <DaSkreech> ! Woah !
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about woah ! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <bazhang> hahaha
[10:20] <ffixxx> hi is there an easy way to enable compiz(-fusion) in kubuntu gutsy?
[10:20] <stdin> ffixxx: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1 like the topic says
[10:21] <bazhang> and yes there is.
[10:21] <bazhang> hi Beyer!
[10:21] <Beyer> Hii :)
[10:23] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: hey... do you know what wekk means?
[10:24] <Beyer> Argh! I'm out of ideas.
[10:24] <DaSkreech> stdin: The topic says that?
[10:24] <DaSkreech> oh wait it does :)
[10:25] <DaSkreech> I read #ubuntu-effects ... balh =P
[10:25] <stdin> DaSkreech: yeah, because I put it there ;)
[10:25] <Beyer> I've disabled the integrated soundcard, installed codecs.. done everything you've said and I've found with google. The sounds wont still work with flashplayer :(
[10:25] <DaSkreech> Beyer: 64bit ?
[10:25] <Beyer> Only with Totem Movie Player
[10:25] <Beyer> Nope
[10:26] <Beyer> Hmm, maybe I just didn't install the java right? Or could it be the reason
[10:27] <Beyer> It
[10:27] <Beyer> Damn enter! :D It's really frustrating to be without youtube like... 3weeks now. Everyone gives urls and you can watch them only without sound. It sucks
[10:28] <DaSkreech> !flash
[10:28] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:29] <phaat> yeah, but gnash doesn't work properly.
[10:29] <DaSkreech> No I remember there was a page with flash sound problems and how to fix them
[10:29] <ghozala> HELP!!!!!!!!!! i ve installed copmiz-fusion and every time i run it this error appears(This problem report does not apply to a packaged program. (/usr/bin/fusion-icon)) and the application never open
[10:30] <DaSkreech> ghozala: #ubuntu-effects
[10:32] <deviance> !compiz-fusion
[10:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:33] <ichor_> I would upgrade, all the way to Feisty. Unfortunately, in my system "gksu" is a command not found. Support pages stress that the alternative way to upgrade  using apt-get  is Not Recommended. They probably know what they're talking about. Are there other alternatives? Does anyone have a suggestion? How do I update without gksu? Thank You!
[10:33] <jamili> PC (Intel x86) desktop CD
[10:33] <jamili> should dl that one if i'm going to use just for normal use
[10:34] <jamili> like playing? idk
[10:35] <DaSkreech> !kdesu  ichor_
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdesu  ichor_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <DaSkreech> !kdesu | ichor_
[10:35] <ubotu> ichor_: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:35] <bazhang> stdin: my bad. just a suggested package. sorry.
[10:35] <nosrednaekim> jamili: yeah.. that should be fine
[10:36] <deviance> Can someone remind me how I check to see if Im running 32 or 64 bit
[10:37] <deviance> And how can I see how much of my hard drive is used and how much is empty
[10:37] <stdin> deviance: "dpkg --print-architecture" should show you
[10:37] <Beyer> In console it has  "^X Exit"
[10:37] <stdin> deviance: and "df -h"
[10:37] <Beyer> So, how can I exit? It does not make any sense
[10:37] <jhutchins> deviance: df -h
[10:38] <deviance> stdin: I'm running i386. I'm about to burn an iso thats i686 what does this mean?
[10:38] <stdin> Beyer: ^ = Ctrl
[10:38] <jhutchins> !kdesu | ichor_
[10:38] <ubotu> ichor_: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:39] <jamili> nosrednaekim: ok
[10:39] <deviance> And df -h worked well :D
[10:39] <stdin> deviance: i386 is only the debian package architecture, it would be "amd64" if it was 64bit
[10:39] <deviance> Okay, Im about to burn a i686 Fedora ISO is this 32 bit?
[10:39] <stdin> deviance: yep
[10:39] <deviance> :D Thank you very much
[10:40] <deviance> Once again saved my live stdin :D
[10:40] <ichor_> So, do I just substitute "gksu" for "kdesu"?  That is, should I try "kdesu "update-manager -C""?
[10:40] <deviance> Maybe a tad meoldramatic :P
[10:40] <Beyer> DaSkreech: Did it, wont help anything.
[10:40] <stdin> deviance: maybe ;)
[10:41] <DaSkreech> Beyer: Hit the forums?
[10:41] <robinson> how do i set KnetworkManager to connect to a certain wireless AP by default? I have two in my home, and i want to set the secure connection by default
[10:42] <nosrednaekim> robinson: make the other one untrusted..
[10:43] <robinson> thanks
[10:53] <ichor_> Using kdesu "update-manager -c" I seem to able to update some applications. What I wish to do is to update the kernel. Thank you.
[11:00] <uga> ichor_: no idea what update-manager is, sorry
[11:00] <uga> ichor_: do you mean adept_manager
[11:00] <DaSkreech> adept_updater
[11:01] <fdoving> ichor_: does it say 'Your system is up-to-date' ?
[11:03] <lapinlam> hello
[11:04] <bazhang> hi!
[11:04] <bcherry> any kubuntu users here ever have problems with apps just not starting?
[11:04] <uga> kaixo!
[11:04] <ichor_> What I meant is that I want to update the "Ubuntu operating system" to Feisty. Does it matter that I am (mostly) using KDE? Isn't the underlying operating system the same whether I use Gnome or KDE on top of it?
[11:04] <fdoving> !upgrade | ichor_
[11:04] <ubotu> ichor_: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[11:04] <uga> bcherry: that's strange. Running the application from command line says something?
[11:04] <mula> p
[11:04] <bcherry> ichor_: yes you are correct
[11:05] <bcherry> uga: yeah everything seems fine
[11:05] <bcherry> konversation is the main thing that just wouldn't ever load
[11:05] <bcherry> it would leave a process running, but never come u
[11:05] <bcherry> vmware is doing the same thing right now
[11:06] <bcherry> fresh install btw (read: two days old)
[11:06] <bcherry> but im viewing it as an oppurtunity to try something new
[11:06] <ichor_> Hi fdovig. What is it that you mean would say that my system is up-to-date?
[11:06] <Eddie> Hello, Firefox crash on print preview. Any fix?
[11:06] <bcherry> i think im gonna dump kubuntu and go opensuse 10.3 until gutsy
[11:06] <bcherry> then come home to my loved one (kubuntu)
[11:06] <Dr_willis> for a whole 2 weeks? :)
[11:06] <bcherry> haha yeah
[11:07] <fdoving> ichor_: no, just ignore that, i didn't understand what you wanted until you said you wanted a full upgrade to feisty. Have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for the details on upgrading.
[11:07] <Dr_willis> using gutsy right now. :)
[11:07] <bcherry> it gave me troubles on my laptop : (
[11:07] <Dr_willis> bcherry,  thats the nature of Beta software
[11:07] <Dr_willis> bcherry,  been about 50+mb of updated a day here over the last week
[11:08] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1
[11:08] <bcherry> Dr_willis: i know, its just the first beta ubuntu that i dumped since breezy
[11:08] <bcherry> i've been consistently upgrading to +1 aroudn the first beta
[11:08] <bcherry> but gutsy didnt offer anything for me
[11:10] <prak> is it true that gutsy is coming out on oct 18?
[11:11] <Dr_willis> prak,  ive not heard of any delays.. so i think its still true
[11:11] <Dr_willis> Not to say they couldent do a  delay...
[11:12] <prak> are you using the beta version?
[11:12] <prak> Dr_willis?
[11:12] <Dr_willis> yes i am prak
[11:13] <Eddie> I guess that no can answer my question
[11:13] <Dr_willis> Eddie,  not seen that happen.. so dont know of any fix. check the forums?
[11:14] <Eddie> OK, Thanks.
[11:14] <VSpike> Is there any way to use apport or any similar tool to trap and report crashes from KDE apps?
[11:15] <stdin> VSpike: I would say ask in -devel, but it's a weekend so you'll get no joy
[11:16] <VSpike> are you saying linux users have lives? what is the world coming to
[11:16] <stdin> !weekend
[11:16] <ubotu> It's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.
[11:17] <VSpike> it's wierd, because I've seen apport reports for kde apps on launchpad
[11:17] <VSpike> so it must be possible somehow
[11:17] <bazhang> stdin: thanks. later.
[11:17] <stdin> :)
[11:18] <poison--> X crashes on me saying it cant find X11/fonts
[11:18] <poison--> any ideas guys?
[11:18] <poison--> wont boot to X anymore
[11:18] <poison--> :(
[11:19] <poison--> !x
[11:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:19] <ichor_> I have had a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes. They tell me to use gksu "update-manager -c". Unfortunately, in my system, "gksu" is a command not found. Support pages stress that the alternative way to upgrade  using apt-get  is Not Recommended. They probably know what they're talking about. I probably need to use some alternative method. Some of you have recommended using "kdesu". The command kdesu
[11:19] <ichor_> "update-manager -c" does not update my system, however, merely some applications. The information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes does not explain how to upgrade the operating system from within KDE.
[11:19] <Kachna> ichor_: use kdesu then
[11:20] <ichor_> OK.  How?
[11:20] <Kachna> or just in console type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" if u wanna update :-)
[11:21] <ichor_> Just "kdesu" and nothing more?
[11:21] <Kachna> but while using KDE && root applications,just replace gksu by kdesu :-)
[11:21] <Kachna> well the easiest way is typing kdesu adept_manager
[11:22] <atlfalcons866> when is gusty gibbon being released
[11:22] <stdin> !gutsy
[11:22] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:22] <stdin> follow the link
[11:22] <poison--> stdin, any ideas on my issue?
[11:22] <stdin> poison--: never seen that problem
[11:23] <patrux> .list
[11:23] <ichor_> Kachna: Should I use -c, as when I use "update-manager"?
[11:23] <poison--> :(
[11:24] <stdin> have you tried reconfiguring X?
[11:24] <poison--> dpkg reconfigure?
[11:24] <poison--> yes
[11:24] <Kachna> ichor_: nope U don't need that :-)
[11:24] <poison--> i even tried sumtin i found in a forum, but no luck
[11:25] <ichor_> Thanks!
[11:25] <stdin> have you made sure all the packages are installed? "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard kubuntu-desktop"
[11:26] <poison--> will try that
[11:26] <poison--> or else i have to reinstall and download all the updates again
[11:27] <DaSkreech> !info apport-qt
[11:27] <ubotu> apport-qt: Qt4 frontend for the apport crash report system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.76.1 (feisty), package size 35 kB, installed size 88 kB
[11:27] <weswh-> what do you guys recommend for playing/subscribing to podcasts? I don't know if Amarok does that or not - but I would ideally like to keep away from that since I use it for all of my music - and have an app specifically for Podcasts. Similar to a newsreader...anything out there?
[11:28] <DaSkreech> VSpike: ^^^
[11:28] <DaSkreech> weswh-: Amarok does do it. It can stream download or auto download if you like
[11:29] <weswh-> know of anything else?
[11:30] <DaSkreech> weswh-: not off the top of my head. Amarok worked nicely for me so  I just left it what are you looking for?
[11:30] <DaSkreech> A standalone podcast app?
[11:30] <VSpike> DaSkreech: yeah, I've used that in kde, but it doesn't help because it's only the front end to send apport crash logs to launchpad - it doesn't make crashing kde apps generate apport data
[11:30] <niyado> some one can give me the ubuntu-es channel?
[11:31] <DaSkreech> VSpike: Ah Yeah there is probably some Debug package
[11:31] <DaSkreech> !es
[11:31] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:31] <niyado> thx
[11:31] <ichor_> Kachna: Tried your suggestion: "adept_manager not found".
[11:31] <VSpike> DaSkreech: because you don't get the apport notification in kde, you have to manually run /usr/share/apport/apport-qt periodically
[11:31] <weswh-> yeah basically...I am not really into it - I just want to check some out. So ideally if I had a separate app, just keep it in its own world. So it doesn't mess up my playlists etc.
[11:31] <weswh-> maybe Amarok has its own tab for podcasts though
[11:31] <DaSkreech> try kitty
[11:31] <DaSkreech> !info kitty
[11:31] <ubotu> kitty: a Qt/KDE based RSS podcast and video aggregator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 246 kB, installed size 648 kB
[11:31] <Kachna> ichor_: mmm then u need a console
[11:32] <ichor_> I'm working in a console
[11:32] <DaSkreech> !info podracer
[11:32] <ubotu> podracer: podcast aggregator/downloader. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4-1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 96 kB
[11:32] <DaSkreech> weswh-: it does
[11:32] <Kachna> just open one and type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install adept
[11:32] <yeniklasorr> Can you tell me a good and fast package server ?
[11:33] <Dr_willis> yeniklasorr,  they are all taking a beating today (well for the last week)
[11:33] <Kachna> ah k,was talking about gksu so i thought u use gui :-)
[11:33] <fdoving> yeniklasorr: se.archive.ubuntu.com is usually fast from europe atleast.
[11:34] <yeniklasorr> Dr_willis : What beating
[11:34] <yeniklasorr> fdoving : looking
[11:34] <Dr_willis> been ooodles of updates for gutsy lately.
[11:36] <VSpike> man, there's some sucky software in this world
[11:38] <atlfalcons866> !gutsy
[11:38] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:40] <hirschi> hi, i need some help best in german language
[11:40] <hirschi> can somebody help me?
[11:40] <ichor_> Was wollen sie dann, Hirschi?
[11:41] <hirschi> ich habe probleme mit dem browser konquer, der will nicht ins web
[11:41] <hirschi> der chat hier funktioniert, pingen kann ich auch ueberall hin
[11:41] <hirschi> was kann das sein?
[11:42] <ichor_> Haben sie Firefox probieren?
[11:42] <ichor_> Es ist besser, ich glaube.
[11:43] <Dr_willis> !de
[11:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:43] <hirschi> ja is besser, nur warum geht konquer nicht?
[11:43] <hirschi> ui danke
[11:43] <DaSkreech> !de
[11:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:43] <DaSkreech> Doh
[11:44] <ichor_> Das weiss ich nicht. Entschuldigung.
[11:45] <hirschi> ok danke ich schau mal in nem deutschen channel
[11:45] <VSpike> what does "Gesamtkunstwerk" mean?
[11:45] <savetheWorld> something-work
[11:45] <uga> VSpike: sausages with cabbage
[11:45] <uga> can't be anything else ;)
[11:45] <VSpike> lol
[11:47] <Dr_willis> Struddle!
[11:51] <uga> VSpike: well, the other option was beer, but I know that's "bier"
[11:51] <uga> so...
[11:52] <uga> anyway, their *wurst with sauerkraut isn't that bad. I was there this same year
[11:54] <daddy> Hello?
[11:55] <Dr_willis> Hello.
[11:55] <DaSkreech> I don't know why you say goodbye when I say Hello
[11:55] <weswh-> how do i check my kubuntu version?
[11:55] <stdin> !version | weswh-
[11:55] <ubotu> weswh-: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[11:55] <digbert> i forgot how i solved this in the past, but i installed the latest nvidia driver from the nvidia site, and now all my ttys make the monitor show "frequency out of range."
[11:55] <digbert> anyone know how to fix that? i have an 8300 GS on kubuntu feisty fawn (7.04)
[11:56] <digbert> no nvidia* packages installed, no linux-restricted-modules-* packages installed
[11:57] <blendtux> i  am looking for a news client for kde, cause knode is not working correctly
[11:57] <daddy> I have a problem with my Scanner. I get a message like ...Failed to open Device 'artec_eplus48u:libusb:002:006 Invalid argument. What does this mean???
[11:57] <weswh-> has anyone seen the "Kickoff" start menu that Suse has implemented into their latest release?
[11:58] <DaSkreech> !kickoff
[11:58] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[11:58] <weswh-> I keep hearing rumblings that Suse is the premiere KDE platform
[11:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:59] <Dr_willis> was that a kickoff?
[11:59] <Dr_willis> or a kickoff replacement?
[11:59] <weswh-> DaSkreech: any word from kubuntu in terms of interest in it?
[11:59] <Dr_willis> Linux Mint - i Though had a similer replacement menu for KDE.
[11:59] <weswh-> it looks pretty cool
[11:59] <Dr_willis> not sure if it came from suse;s stuff or not
[11:59] <DaSkreech> weswh-: Well I'm sure someone packages it for Kubuntu
[11:59] <stdin> unless KDE adopts it, I guess it won't be default
[12:00] <DaSkreech> KDE is adopting it
[12:00] <deviance> stdin: I am using the manual settings for connecting to my WiFi network, is there a command line way of checking how strong the connection is or what my maxium speed is or anything
[12:00] <stdin> DaSkreech:  as default for the KMenu?
[12:00] <stdin> deviance: iwconfig
[12:00] <scott_dennister> hey channel, having a bit of a problem with an older, spare video card...a riva tnt2...i've enabled the legacy nvidia drivers, but can't get a resolution smaller than 800x800...can anyone help me with this?
[12:00] <deviance> Thank you
[12:01] <weswh-> when they say 7.10 won't be the next long term support release - does that mean that unless you have specific needs you should stick with 7.04?
[12:01] <stdin> weswh-: 7.04 isn's LTS either
[12:01] <weswh-> personally I would be upgrading in hopes of any increased performance, and stability out of KDE - and of course access to newer audited versions of the software I use
[12:01] <weswh-> hmm, good to know.
[12:02] <DaSkreech> stdin: yes
[12:02] <stdin> DaSkreech: in what version?
[12:02] <DaSkreech> KDE 4.0
[12:02] <daddy> Does anybody know anything about Xsane?
[12:02] <DaSkreech> KDE 4.1 will probaby remove it
[12:02] <stdin> DaSkreech: I would have thought it'd be a plasmoid then
[12:02] <scott_dennister> anyone? for an xorg smaller resolution problem?
[12:03] <DaSkreech> Probably will be
[12:03] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[12:03] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:04] <ubuntu_> hello
[12:05] <weyersrw_> I am trying to make knetwork manager work to find wireless networks Grrrr it is not helping at all and I does not seem to be in control
[12:05] <weyersrw_> hello
[12:06] <daddy> Hello!!
[12:06] <scott_dennister> ty bot :)
[12:06] <weyersrw_> also I am useing gutsy
[12:06] <Lucian0> hey, is it not detecting the wireless network?
[12:06] <weyersrw_> no but I can configure the network man
[12:06] <weyersrw_> ually
[12:06] <daddy> Have a question about Xsane.
[12:07] <fdoving> weyersrw_: make sure there is no reference to your wireless device in /etc/network/interfaces - if it's mentioned there knetworkmanager won't touch it.
[12:07] <weyersrw_> Tis there
[12:08] <weyersrw_> see it in wlan system settings cannot figure out how to turn auto on as it seems that gutsys system settings took over
[12:09] <uga> weyersrw_: does kwifimanager help?
[12:09] <ICXCNIKA> I was thinking of switching to a Linux distro. Are there any advantages that Kubuntu has over openSUSE (another distro I am considering?)
[12:09] <DaSkreech> ICXCNIKA: If you like it sure..
[12:10] <weyersrw_> not loaded as to many cooks in the kitchen already
[12:10] <DaSkreech> ICXCNIKA: Personally I like the #kubuntu community
[12:10] <Dr_willis> then theres the whole 'apt' vs 'rpm' flamewar
[12:11] <digbert> anyway, anyone know how to fix the out of range error i asked about a little while ago?
[12:11] <sub[t] rnl> apt > *
[12:11] <scott_dennister> gonna restartx
[12:11] <weyersrw_> > auto lo
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > iface lo inet loopback
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > address <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > iface wifi0 inet dhcp
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > wireless-essid P
[12:12] <ICXCNIKA> DaSkreech: I see. Well I just want my hardware to be supported.
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > auto wifi0
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > iface wifi1 inet dhcp
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > wireless-essid P
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > auto wlan0
[12:12] <weyersrw_> interfaces looks like this
[12:13] <DaSkreech> ICXCNIKA: Live CD is the fastest way to find out
[12:13] <Sanne> ICXCNIKA: the Microsoft-Novell deal might also be a reason to be at least a bit wary of products they're involved in
[12:13] <Minataku> Dr_willis!
[12:13] <Dr_willis> Minataku,
[12:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:13] <sub[t] rnl> hehe
[12:13] <Dr_willis> been cleanign house all day
[12:13] <Minataku> Where are my Amigas? XD
[12:13] <Dr_willis> buried under piles of other things at the moment..
[12:13] <Minataku> Heh
[12:13] <Dr_willis> trying to get me a table or 2 setup
[12:13] <Dr_willis> wife decided to clean out the basement FINIALLY
[12:13] <weyersrw_> ICXCNIKA>I have used alot of different versions in my testing and I came back to Kubuntu from suse and mepis
[12:14] <uga> Minataku: your friends?
[12:14] <Dr_willis> we have literally a Pickup truck load of Blankets. shes going through.
[12:14] <Minataku> No rush, of course, but could you try to send those to me some time?
[12:14] <sub[t] rnl> Dr_willis: made the wife do it eh?
[12:14] <sub[t] rnl> :P
[12:14] <sub[t] rnl> atta baby
[12:14] <Dr_willis> sub[t] rnl,  she got engertic and wanted some blankets with the winter comming.. so i brought them ALL up.
[12:14] <ICXCNIKA> Sanne: I just fear that Novell might end up pulling the plug on the openSUSE program anyway.
[12:14] <sub[t] rnl> hehe
[12:14] <sub[t] rnl> i take it there were quite a few?
[12:14] <weyersrw_> What kind of harware
[12:14] <Minataku> I'd love to add the Amigas to my computer collection, but if I don't have them, it's kind of hard. XD
[12:15] <Dr_willis> sub[t] rnl,  literally a Pickup truck bed full...
[12:15] <sub[t] rnl> rofl
[12:15] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  yep. I was trying to access their hard drives via usb on a linux box the other day.. couldent do it. :(
[12:15] <Minataku> I've got spare 3.5" IDE HDDs
[12:15] <Dr_willis> so  i guess i aint going to be transferign stuff from them.. not that i need any of their stuff
[12:15] <Sanne> ICXCNIKA: yeah, you'll never know. Well, as you're in #kubuntu, you'll might get some recommendations of this nice distro anyway :). The community is indeed great.
[12:15] <Minataku> So that's no trouble
[12:15] <Dr_willis> they use laptop sized hd's
[12:15] <Dr_willis> unless ya got some adaptors
[12:15] <Minataku> If I manage to get anything off of them
 If I take it out then will the knetwork manager work with it
[12:15] <Minataku> 2.5" is what I meant
[12:15] <uga> Minataku: you should get one of those Spectrums with loads of memory packed so that they run kubuntu
[12:15] <Minataku> lol
[12:16] <Dr_willis> Not that i need stuff from them... just playing with them.
[12:16] <fdoving> weyersrw_: if you want network-manager to manage your devices, just remove everything after and including the line: 'iface wifi0 inet dhcp' in /etc/network/interfaces - you could make a backup of that file of course.
[12:16] <Minataku> Dr_willis: k
[12:16] <Dr_willis> i was trying to put one in my broke laptop.. but the HD from the amiga is thicker then the laptop hd.
[12:16] <Dr_willis> never knew they came in differant thicknesses
[12:16] <Minataku> Well, if you could, try to expedite the shipping on them XD
[12:16] <Minataku> Yeah, the older ones were usually thicker
[12:17] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  :) send me the address again. ill print it out here in Big letters.
[12:17] <Minataku> That is, send them last-class shipping, cheapest option
[12:17] <Minataku> But try to actually get them out XD
[12:17] <fdoving> weyersrw_: yes, it will. it might need a restart, '/etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager restart' to fetch the changes.
[12:17] <Minataku> If you can't, no rush, like I said
[12:17] <Dr_willis> I got the weekend off.. I have one in a box allready.. but its not very well protected.
[12:17] <Dr_willis> But i got lots of spare blankets i can wrap it in! then box it up now.
[12:18] <sub[t] rnl> haha
[12:18] <Minataku> Haha
[12:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:18] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Address PM'd
[12:18] <Minataku> And thanks X3
[12:19] <Minataku> I've still got to get around to messing with the two big calculators
[12:19] <Minataku> But like I said, the other two are working
[12:19] <Minataku> Three
[12:19] <Dr_willis> yep. im at a point in my life i can LOOK around the house and find 12+ things i need to do.. then the wife adds another 5 while im doing one...
[12:19] <Minataku> The two LED ones that are running have slight issues with key bounce, though
[12:19] <Dr_willis> but at least shes CLEANING out the junk!
[12:19] <Minataku> Haha
[12:20] <Minataku> Find any other interesting computers in your basement?
[12:20] <Dr_willis> Clean out the basement has been a 2 year job for her.
[12:20] <Dr_willis> GOt an iMAC DV. and some old pc's
[12:20] <Dr_willis> a Few C64's
[12:20] <Dr_willis> thats about all i got left.
[12:20] <Minataku> Hm
[12:20] <Minataku> The iMac is no doubt too heavy
[12:20] <Dr_willis> and of course these heavy CRT;s
[12:20] <Minataku> I don't take PCs unless they're laptops
[12:21] <Dr_willis> I got an old sony laptop. it needs a HD. and its broke in half. :) going to fix it for the kids someday...
[12:21] <Minataku> Perhaps a C64 or two if you don't want them
[12:21] <Dr_willis> its my live-cd test bed.
[12:21] <Minataku> lol
[12:21] <ICXCNIKA> brb
[12:21] <Dr_willis> I got a Vic-20 also
[12:21] <Minataku> And the chips out of those PCs if you throw them away
[12:21] <Dr_willis> somehere.
[12:21] <Minataku> BEcause I collect ICs
[12:21] <Minataku> CPUs, EPROMs, the like
[12:21] <mark_> hey all
[12:21] <Minataku> And RAM and any interesting cards
[12:21] <Dr_willis> heh. ill see what i can grab at work from the various High $$$ controller cards.
[12:21] <Minataku> Send those if you would, too
[12:22] <Dr_willis> from CNC machines and stuff.
[12:22] <Minataku> Ooooh
[12:22] <Minataku> Cool :D
[12:22] <Minataku> Yeah, I'd love some exotic chips
[12:22] <Minataku> Just don't get in trouble X3
[12:22] <Dr_willis> Yep. :) well iof they thow the whole thing away..  its junk. :) i can be taking it aprart to look at it.. :)
[12:22] <Dr_willis> got some cooling fans from HUGE dc motors that can take a hand off..
[12:23] <Minataku> I actually got two Intel 80960CA chips out of two high-end SCSI server cards
[12:23] <Dr_willis> the things literally hover off the table about an inch.
[12:23] <Minataku> Those were cool
[12:23] <mark4931> thats cool that there is a chat channel just for kubuntu owners already built in to kubuntu
[12:23] <Dr_willis> Ok. i will go clean the basement some more . and box up some stuff for ya.
[12:23] <Minataku> Yeah, the three A1200s, the one PSU, maybe a C64 or two and any cool chips you can find, I'll take 'em all :D
[12:23] <Dr_willis> Your dad wont get mad again?
[12:23] <mark4931> you have instante friends
[12:23] <Minataku> I cleaned my room
[12:23] <mark4931> and instante help
[12:23] <Minataku> So he shouldn't be too angry about it
[12:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:24] <Dr_willis> ill label them 'school supplies' :)
[12:24] <Minataku> Haha
[12:24] <Dr_willis> or 'your latex novelties'
[12:24] <Minataku> Label them "Calculators"
[12:24] <Minataku> Or something small like that
[12:24] <Dr_willis> 'Anthrax'
[12:24] <Dr_willis> :P
[12:24] <Minataku> NO
[12:24] <Minataku> >:P
[12:24] <Minataku> Label them "Parts for school work"
[12:24] <mark4931> so does anyone know how to change the screen resolution higher that 1024 x620
[12:24] <Dr_willis> Ok. :)
[12:24] <Minataku> That'll work very well :3
[12:25] <Dr_willis> well off to clean. see ya later. wife is YELLING again...
[12:25] <Minataku> Since I _am_ in Computer Engineering Technology :D
[12:25] <sub[t] rnl> see ya dr
[12:25] <Minataku> Heehee, escape to the basement ^^
[12:25] <sub[t] rnl> mark4931: add the appropriate modes into xorg.conf
[12:25] <mark4931> my laptop supports 1400 x 900 but i cant get it to that resolution
[12:25] <sub[t] rnl> !resolution
[12:25] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:26] <sub[t] rnl> try that link
[12:26] <mark4931> how do i do that?
[12:26] <mark4931> ok ill take a look at that web page
[12:26] <mark4931> brb
[12:31] <mark4931> it doesnt have intel on there
[12:32] <mark4931> i have intel 956 or something for a video card
[12:32] <mark4931> this is the window to configure xserver
[12:32] <weyersrw__> fdoving are you still here
[12:33] <fdoving> weyersrw__: yes.
[12:36] <sub[t] rnl> mark4931: what video card do you have?
[12:37] <mark4931> intel mobile 945gm
[12:38] <sub[t] rnl> ok, you'll want to install the latest intel driver then
[12:38] <mark4931> how do i do that?..
[12:39] <stdin> try installing "xserver-xorg-video-intel" and change "i810" to "intel" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:39] <sub[t] rnl> use apt-get to install it