[01:52] <cjohnston> Amoz: I finished the Linaro theme and proposed it for merging into the Linaro branch
[01:52] <cjohnston> ty for your help on that
[07:28] <Amoz> cjohnston: ah great
[12:48] <cjohnston> Amoz: howdy
[13:03] <Amoz> cjohnston: howdy
[13:04] <cjohnston> Amoz: got anything going on today?
[13:04] <cjohnston> I'd like to try to work on the forms
[13:05] <Amoz> doing jQuery stuff
[13:05] <Amoz> okay, you do that :)
[13:06]  * cjohnston needs help with it.. ;-)
[13:07] <cjohnston> that was the point in mentioning it to you
[13:07] <cjohnston> whatcha doin with jQuery?
[13:07] <Amoz> lol
[13:08] <Amoz> sneaky you
[13:08] <Amoz> I'm watching the nettuts course
[13:08] <cjohnston> i see
[13:08] <Amoz> 30 days to learn jquery
[13:10] <cjohnston> cool
[13:12] <Amoz> what forms would you like to work on ?
[13:15] <cjohnston> the create/propose meeting forms
[13:15] <cjohnston> they dont really follow the guidelines
[13:15] <cjohnston> Right now we use RenderableMixin to create the forms automagically..
[13:16] <cjohnston> I dont know that we will be able to make it follow the guidelines and still use that
[13:16] <cjohnston> and the reason I want to follow the guidelines is that it currently looks pretty bad because its all cluttered togetehr
[13:17] <Amoz> ah
[13:17] <cjohnston> otherwise I wouldnt much care
[13:19] <Amoz> okay have you found the docs for RenderableMixin?
[13:21] <Amoz> cjohnston: doesn't seem to be well used, amirite?
[13:22] <cjohnston> correct.. i dont know if its a limitation of RenderableMixin
[13:23] <Amoz> sounds very stupid if you can't change the elements
[13:23] <Amoz> is it part of django, python or what is it?
[13:23] <cjohnston> I guess its something keybuck or someone made
[13:23] <cjohnston> its in common.forms
[13:24] <cjohnston> so in that case, its prolly best to dump it
[13:24] <cjohnston> :-/
[13:24] <Amoz> there has to be something similar out there, somewhere
[13:25] <cjohnston> i dunno
[13:25] <cjohnston> there seems to be some templating stuff
[13:28] <Amoz_> bah
[13:28] <Amoz_> subway irc is unstable :P
[13:29] <cjohnston> lol
[13:29] <Amoz_> but it looks good
[13:29] <Amoz_> anyway
[13:29] <Amoz_> where is the mixin stuff?
[13:30] <cjohnston> common/forms.py
[13:33] <Amoz_> cjohnston, do you have any reference forms for the new design?
[13:33] <Amoz_> so we can see how they're styled etc ?
[13:33] <cjohnston> ya
[13:34] <cjohnston> well
[13:34] <cjohnston> http://design.ubuntu.com/web/forms
[13:36] <Amoz_> and where can I see the summit code running?
[13:36] <cjohnston> you mean the current forms?
[13:37] <cjohnston> http://summit.chrisjohnston.org/test-summit/propose_meeting/
[13:40] <Amoz_> cjohnston, yeah, the core.css contains form css
[13:40] <Amoz_> so if you use normal forms, I think the css should apply to them
[13:40] <cjohnston> right.. but we have to create the forms..
[13:41] <cjohnston> thats the area i need some help with
[13:41] <Amoz_> oh, lol
[13:41] <Amoz_> I thought you meant styling of existing forms
[13:42] <cjohnston> i dont know that doing that is possible
[13:42] <cjohnston> http://summit.chrisjohnston.org/test-summit/2012-03-26/ also got messed up
[13:42] <cjohnston> so im currently trying to debug that
[13:43] <Amoz_> messed up? when? by what? =/
[13:43] <Amoz_> what's the problem? :P
[13:44] <cjohnston> the table should look like http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/2011-11-02/
[13:46] <cjohnston> do you see the difference
[13:48] <cjohnston> https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/summit/code-cleanup-goodness/+merge/99207 seems to be the merge that breaks it
[13:49] <cjohnston> which really confuses me
[13:51] <cjohnston> i see the problem
[13:52] <Amoz_> what is it?
[13:52] <Amoz_> where is the javascript hide_agenda_details etc ?
[13:56] <cjohnston> fixed it
[13:58] <Amoz_> great
[14:05] <cjohnston> http://summit.chrisjohnston.org/test-summit/2012-03-26/
[14:05] <cjohnston> Amoz_: ^^ fix
[14:11] <Amoz_> oh you
[14:12] <cjohnston> ?
[14:12] <cjohnston> i fixed it
[14:12] <cjohnston> sorry
[14:12] <Amoz_> haah
[14:12] <Amoz_> okay
[14:12] <Amoz_> goodie
[14:12] <cjohnston> I'm waiting on imbrandon to get up to help me with understanding something he said...
[14:12] <czajkowski> cjohnston: was confusing if you said hwat the error was and what the fix was it'd be clearer
[14:13] <cjohnston> error was missing js due to a change in another page
[14:16] <Amoz_> cjohnston, what's that?
[14:16] <cjohnston> Amoz_: a block name was changed in website_base, but not changed elsewhere down the line
[14:17] <cjohnston> soon as I changed it in the other templates it worked
[14:18] <Amoz_> cjohnston, I meant what imbrandon said
[14:18] <cjohnston> he is kinda redoing the way that the JS is called
[14:19] <cjohnston> and I'm a little confused about it
[14:19] <cjohnston> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-community-webthemes/ubuntu-community-webthemes/light-django-theme-linaro-refresh/view/46/templates/website_base.html#L22
[14:19] <cjohnston> I think he wants me to put the js thats particular to that one page in the closure
[14:22] <Amoz_> he wants you to put scripts in the loader.js
[14:23] <Amoz_> and if you need to add extra scripttags, put them in the ending block
[14:23] <Amoz_> not in the beginning of the page
[14:23] <Amoz_> and try to avoid inline js and css
[14:23] <cjohnston> right..
[14:23] <Amoz_> basically he's just saying a lot of "normal" stuff
[14:24] <Amoz_> best practices, so browser can make use of caching for example
[14:24] <Amoz_> for instance*
[14:24] <cjohnston> but the right
[14:25] <cjohnston> but so because this js is only used on one page, the daily.html page, put it in the ending block
[14:26] <Amoz_> ?
[14:27] <cjohnston> if you look at daily.html, it has inline js in the header
[14:27] <cjohnston> he wants it to be at the end of the page, is my understanding
[14:27] <cjohnston> because the js is only relevant to the one page
[14:33] <Amoz_> probably
[14:33] <Amoz_> but still
[14:33] <Amoz_> it's open source
[14:34] <Amoz_> and it will work anyway
[14:34] <Amoz_> it's just "better" to have it in the end
[14:34] <Amoz_> and if he really wants to fix it, he can do it
[14:34] <Amoz_> that's my opinion about open source
[14:34] <Amoz_> :P
[14:34] <cjohnston> lol
[14:52] <Amoz_> ;D
[14:52] <Amoz_> so
[14:52] <Amoz_> cjohnston, what's the rest of your plans?
[14:52] <Amoz_> all website stuff
[14:52] <cjohnston> the form stuff
[15:17] <Amoz_> and how are you gonna tackle that one? :P
[15:18] <cjohnston> hoep that you will
[15:21] <Amoz_> aww
[15:21] <Amoz_> I don't even know what to do
[15:22] <cjohnston> ok
[15:22] <cjohnston> we can try looking at it later
[15:23] <cjohnston> :-)
[16:04] <cjohnston> mhall119: have you seen the feed for #linaroconnect on http://summit.linaro.org/lcq2-12/
[16:20] <mhall119> cjohnston: looks like something is wrong with our twitter search, it's returning 0 results
[16:20] <cjohnston> ya
[16:20] <mhall119> so you're only getting old stuff from identi.ca
[16:20] <cjohnston> mhall119: imbrandon is going to work on redoing it


[03:54] <pitti> Good morning
[03:55] <pitti> slangasek: yes, I'm beige; "jack" was already there (wondered about that myself), I just appended another transition; thanks for cleaning up
[03:55] <pitti> slangasek: I'm using the ben pages, and it indeed has lcmaps-plugins-voms; not sure how it got dropped, probably just mouse copy&paste error
[03:56] <pitti> doko: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/k/kservice/wily/i386/ WDYM install error? KSycocaThreadTest fails
[03:57] <pitti> slangasek: crystalspace> ack, can do; that's what I did with bombono-dvd, that works better I guess
[03:57] <pitti> Laney: ^ FYI, as you also did some
[03:58] <pitti> slangasek: yes, I removed the broken rebuild from wily-proposed and used demote-to-proposed, but then realized that this doesn't work well as it goes back to -release immediately
[03:58] <pitti> so just removing from wily sounds easier and better
[04:10] <slangasek> pitti: ah yes, demotion with binaries also has that problem :)
[04:11]  * pitti marks petsc++ as finished, feel++  is in -proposed
[04:48] <pitti> oh, where did sflphone go on the pad?
[04:49] <pitti> ah, slangasek demoted to -proposed; anyway, I have a fix now
[05:16] <slangasek> pitti: no objection to it being fixed of course, but it didn't look to me like something that should be allowed to continue blocking
[05:16] <pitti> slangasek: fully agreed, I just wondered for a second where the pad entry had gone
[05:17] <pitti> (it was rightfully removed -- just a bit of confusion there)
[05:17] <pitti> slangasek: "unbuilt/uninstallable" is holding up too much stuff, I'm dialing this back in britney now
[05:17] <pitti> as per u-r@ discussion
[05:25] <ricotz> good morning
[05:25] <ricotz> pitti, hi, small fix regarding the icu transition http://paste.debian.net/plain/291826
[05:26] <pitti> ricotz: ah thanks; could this just be committed to http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-kde/qt/qt4-x11.git ?
[05:26] <pitti> an entire upload for (an essentially useless) Suggests: seems a bit exaggerated
[05:28] <ricotz> pitti, I see, and yeah should be fixed there too
[05:30] <ricotz> mitya57, hi, could you take a look at this ^
[05:44] <pitti> slangasek: sorry, uploaded duplicate rebuild of bisonc++ and ccbuild
[05:45] <slangasek> pitti: if that's a duplicate of something I did, don't worry, I'd rather have you be TIL than me ;)
[05:45] <pitti> slangasek: yes, you uploaded http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/html/bobcat-g++5.html recently and I missed that
[05:46] <slangasek> pitti: "recently" as in within the past half hour, I think
[05:46] <pitti> I ^Ced my transition uploads after I realized the unexpected build2
[05:46] <pitti> slangasek: right; not much harm, just in case you wonder
[05:46] <slangasek> I'm mostly just spamming the 'mass-rebuild' button here
[05:46] <pitti> I earn the FTBFSes then :)
[05:47] <pitti> yeah, me too; was going over the remaining ones
[05:47] <slangasek> which at least turns up FTBFSes somewhere that people can see them without having to hunt - e.g.  Any idea why launchpadlib 1.10.3 was not uploaded to https://pypi.python.org/pypi/launchpadlib ? Just an oversight ?
[09:15] <wgrant> ttx: The only significant change was some pretty broken Python 3 support. We'll be releasing 1.10.4 soonish.
[09:15] <wgrant> I can't recommend using the Python 3 support in 1.10.3
[09:16] <ttx> wgrant: ah ok, makes sense.
[09:16] <ttx> wgrant: I'll wait for that before turning my py3 test jobs on
[09:25] <Odd_Bloke> If the bzr packaging branches for a package haven't been updated after an upload, what can I do to refresh them?
[09:25] <wgrant> Odd_Bloke: Which package?
[09:26] <Odd_Bloke> wgrant: cloud-init
[09:26] <wgrant> Hah
[09:26] <Odd_Bloke> (vivid, trusty, precise)
[09:26] <Odd_Bloke> Well, and maybe wily, but I'm doing backports so I don't care. :p
[09:26] <wgrant> Odd_Bloke: Any particular reason you're still using UDD?
[09:26] <wgrant> It basically only works for a given package once.
[09:26] <wgrant> We strongly discourage its continued use. It is barely on life support.
[09:27] <wgrant> We intend to replace it with something git-based in the relatively near term.
[09:27] <Odd_Bloke> wgrant: I really want version control so backporting multiple fixes is less painful.
[09:27] <Odd_Bloke> (Of the "dget ...;  The Bazaar implementation of UDD has some pretty fundamental flaws that prevent it from being reliably usable.
[09:28] <wgrant> Lessons that will be learnt from in any future replacement.
[09:28] <Odd_Bloke> OK, cool.
[09:28] <Odd_Bloke> My sponsor normally takes debdiffs anyway, so we probably aren't using it fully. :p
[09:30] <wgrant> Yeah
[09:30] <wgrant> cloud-init in particular has been broken since 2013.
[09:30] <wgrant> It's not unfixable, but it will unfix itself pretty quickly if I fix it.
[09:33] <seb128> bdmurray, seems like you maintain ubuntu-release-upgrader, could you update it to work the new pep8 in wily? it fails some tests because the new version is stricter, which is blocking webkitgtk or pyqt5 in wily-proposed
[09:34] <Odd_Bloke> Well, I'm more than happy to use my own git branches to track stuff. :)
[09:34] <seb128><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:14] <doko> wait, arm64 buildds almost idle? did we finish?
[11:15] <pitti> doko: heh, not quite yet :) http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/
[11:16] <pitti> doko: I just had to stop pegging them for some hours do catch up with some other stuff
[11:16] <pitti> and we are getting into the "fewer rebuilds, more manual fixing work" zone
[11:17]  * Laney is fixing some K things to shrink the pending stuff that's blocking unity
[11:19] <doko> pitti, new dpkg arrived, could merge debhelper now?
[11:23] <pitti> doko: yes, currently looking at the dpkg test regressions
[11:24] <pitti> doko: running some package builds with new debhelper now, then I'll upload
[11:32] <pitti> doko: uploaded
[11:33] <Laney> ICE ICE baby
[11:34] <pitti> Laney: you booked a German hi-speed train? :-)
[11:34] <Laney> think of a worse kind of ICE :P
[11:34] <Laney> although I will be getting one of those soon!
[11:34] <pitti> Laney: they have enough of Internal Climate_control Errors, trust me :)
[11:35] <pitti> although I've been lucky this summer apparently
[11:35] <davmor2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE
[11:36] <pitti> davmor2: oh the sound of our youth :)
[11:37] <pitti> I think this came out when I was 10
[11:37] <davmor2> pitti: that's not the sound of my youth this is the sound of my youth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLV4_xaYynY
[11:50] <mdeslaur> seb128, doko: I've looked at bug 1448548 , the openjdk rules file is broken
[11:51] <mdeslaur> or, maybe I'm reading that wrong
[11:51]  * mdeslaur looks again
[11:52] <seb128> mdeslaur, hey, well, I don't understand the intend
[11:52] <seb128> so I can't tell if it's right
[11:53] <seb128> there is a limited list of ubuntu series for some reasons
[11:53] <seb128> which are all unsupported ones
[11:53] <mdeslaur> yeah, I read it backwards, it's _not_ enabling cautious-launcher for those old releases which didn't have it
[11:53] <mdeslaur> the issue is ifeq ($(java_launcher),cautious-launcher)
[11:53] <mdeslaur> it's not equal as it's missing the parameters
[11:55] <mdeslaur> or maybe not....perhaps I should actually drink my morning coffee before saying a bunch of stupid things
[11:56] <seb128> lol
[12:08] <doko> Laney, do you look at the remaining kde autopkg test failures? might want to coordinate with Riddell
[12:10] <Laney> doko: mmm, hi Riddell!
[12:11] <doko> mdeslaur, ifneq (,$(findstring cautious-launcher, $(java_launcher)))
[12:11] <doko> fixed it
[12:11] <mdeslaur> doko: yeah, I was just compiling with exactly that change to test
[12:12] <mdeslaur> doko: can you push that to your trees for the next security update?
[12:12] <doko> mdeslaur, yes
[12:12] <mdeslaur> doko: cool, thanks
[12:30] <dragos> hi
[12:30] <dragos_> hi
[12:30] <dragos_> how r u
[12:30] <dragos> good
[12:31] <dragos_> 2 xchat on  pc running at the same time
[12:32] <dragos> cool
[12:33] <dragos_> ya ik
[12:34] <dragos_> dragos and dragos_ is the same user
[12:34] <dragos_> dragos_
[12:34] <dragos_> dragos
[12:34] <dragos_> dragos
[12:34] <dragos_> dragos
[12:34] <dragos_> dragos
[12:34] <dragos_> soory
[12:36] <Laney> dude
[12:42] <pitti> barry: are you tracking the "Illegal instruction (core dumped)
[12:42] <pitti> barry: in http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/p/pytables/wily/amd64/ ?
[13:10] <barry> pitti: thanks for the pointer; hadn't seen that yet
[13:51] <seb128> cyphermox, hey, why did you subscribe sponsors to https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/ubuntu/wily/grub2/lp1097570/+merge/260228 ? you can upload grub yourself right?
[13:53] <cyphermox> seb128: I'm not sure why it got in the list, I think it's just because I filed the merge at all
[13:53] <seb128> cyphermox, are you waiting for specific reviewers?
[13:54] <cyphermox> no, not really. let me get that off the list
[13:56] <seb128> thanks
[13:56] <seb128> @pilot out
[14:22] <doko> Mirv, remember the libllvm v5 changes when you backport new llvm versions. for 3.5 and 3.6 you have to drop these changes, for 3.7 you have to *add* something else, e.g. v4. and change the wily version to replace/conflict these
[14:26] <Mirv> doko: do you mean tjaalton?
[14:26] <Mirv> too many Timo:s
[14:26] <doko> yeah, sorry
[14:27] <doko> tjaalton, ^^^
[14:31] <tjaalton> doko: whaat?
[14:32] <tjaalton> maybe mlankhorst did the previous ones, i can't remember doing those :)
[14:33] <tjaalton> doko: 3.7 will be useful for newer mesa and amdgpu driver though
[14:33] <tjaalton> you mean backports to trusty?
[14:36] <doko> tjaalton, yes, you must not use the same library name as used in wily-proposed
[14:37] <pitti> doko: does that then mean that we need to add another Conflicts:/Replaces: to the wily version?
[14:37] <tjaalton> doko: mesa in proposed?
[14:37] <tjaalton> i'm just confused :)
[14:37] <doko> pitti, for libllvm3.7? maybe
[14:42] <tjaalton> doko: so is there something I need to do right now?
[14:43] <doko> tjaalton, no, just remember when you backport. I'll add the Conflicts/Replaces for libllvm3.7 (libllvm3.7v4), so you should use exactly that name for your backports
[14:43] <tjaalton> doko: ah, ok
[14:50] <pitti> apw: ah, kicad is running into the same boost error; so waiting on your fix
[14:52] <apw> pitti, yeah waiting on some test builds in my boost PPA, seems feel is very large
[15:01] <mdeslaur> cjwatson: I am going to steal your net-snmp merge
[15:49] <mterry> doko, arg, you were working on pinba-engine-mysql at the same time I was.  put your name on it  :)
[15:49] <mterry> doko, but awesome, good work  :)
[15:50] <doko> mterry, sorry, and now looking at qwt
[15:50] <doko> this pad is always timing out ...
[15:50] <mterry> doko, I know, right
[15:56] <barry> pitti: i can't get pytables to core dump locally :/  all dep-8 tests pass just fine here
[15:57] <doko> seb128, was it intended to build gnome-bluetooth without the new bluez?
[15:59] <seb128> doko, you mean? bluez was uploaded
[16:00] <seb128> doko, or you mean build order? in which case yes, gnome-bluetooth doesn't build-depends on bluez, it uses its dbus api, so it's runtime depends
[16:00] <doko> ok
[16:08] <doko> zyga, still there?
[16:08] <zyga> doko: yes
[16:08] <zyga> doko: want to know about the plainbox FTBFS issue?
[16:09] <doko> zyga, not to know, just a fix =)
[16:10] <zyga> doko: a quick fix is to disable tess, I tracked that down to about a dozen silent test failures on earlier pythons, I started fixing them but I'll need one more day
[16:11] <doko> ok, then I'll leave that
[16:15] <mterry> doko, I'm looking at kdegraphics-mobipocket, which is now missing one of its symbols and dpkg-gensymbols errors out during build.  I see for okular, you just uploaded a new version with a symbols file that had the #MISSING lines in it.  How do I test whether any rdeps were using the specific symbol that is missing in my kdegraphics case before uploading it with an updated symbols file?
[16:25]  * doko hides (already uploaded)
[16:27] <doko> mterry, these are destructor symbols, which GCC 5 doesn't emit anymore. In general, you can ignore these (that's what the kde symbols tool is doing).
[16:28] <mterry> doko, OK great.  Will upload with modified symbols file then
[16:29] <doko> mterry, I already did :-/
[16:29] <mterry> doko, oh I see, that's why you hid  ;)
[16:29] <mterry> doko, thanks  :)
[16:29] <mterry> doko, you monster
[16:30]  * mterry goes on lunch break, after successfully fixing two gcc5 failures  ;)
[16:37] <Laney> Riddell: ScottK: Do you know if opengtl & libqtgtl are still relevant?
[16:37] <Laney> FTBFS, seem to have been removed from fedora saying they are obsolete
[16:37] <Riddell> hmm, krita isn't it?  let me look
[16:38] <Laney> don't see any rdeps
[16:39] <Laney> if you confirm then would you please remove them from wily+wily-proposed? :)
[16:41] <Riddell> Laney: you could be right, asking upstream
[16:42] <doko> Laney, Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opengtl/+bug/1483000
[16:42] <Laney> thx
[16:42] <Laney> we're so four days behind
[16:43] <Riddell> doko: that should say 15.10?
[16:43] <doko> yeah
[16:48] <seb128> kirkland, hey, is there any chance you could review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/1406940?  there is a patch waiting for review since january 1st...
[16:49] <kirkland> seb128: sure, looking now...
[16:50] <kirkland> seb128: ugh, backslashes in user names?
[16:50] <seb128> kirkland, thanks
[16:51] <seb128> that's how AD works apparently
[16:51] <seb128> don't ask me, I know little about that ;-)
[16:51] <kirkland> seb128: hmm, I'd be curious to have pitti's and slangasek's take on the pam parts of this patch
[16:52] <seb128> slangasek, pitti, ^ (https://launchpadlibrarian.net/193837670/45_44.diff)
[16:52] <kirkland> pitti: slangasek: there's a patch posted on Launchpad for ecryptfs, on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/1406940?
[16:52] <kirkland> pitti: slangasek: which adds support to ecryptfs, to allow for backslashes and dollar signs in user names
[16:52] <kirkland> pitti: slangasek: for active directory and samba support
[16:53] <kirkland> pitti: slangasek: that sounds scary to me
[16:55] <kirkland> seb128: okay, marked triaged/low, asked for comments from slangasek, pitti, and tyhicks
[16:55] <kirkland> seb128: my initial inclination is pretty hesitant
[16:55] <kirkland> seb128: I also have no environment (active directory) where I could test this
[16:55]  * jdstrand notes tyler is on holiday until tuesday
[16:56] <kirkland> jdstrand: thanks
[16:57] <seb128> kirkland, ok, thanks, at least the submitter has some activity (we should maybe also unsubscribe sponsors if that's too technical for ubuntu sponsoring and should be let to the ecryptfs team or something
[16:57] <kirkland> seb128: ack
[16:57] <kirkland> seb128: yes, agreed, that's not something that a general ubuntu sponsor should upload, as there are potentially serious security implications
[16:58] <barry> slangasek: i'm confused.  http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/python3.4-5.html has gcc-python-plugin failing for all archs, but if you look at the build logs, everything is built just fine.  it's not the page being out of date, so what's going on?
[16:59] <barry> ditto python-aoihttp
[17:00] <Laney> barry: Do they match the 'bad' line?
[17:03] <barry> Laney: hmm.  i think it doesn't bug i'm not positive i'm reading the bad line correctly
[17:04] <Laney> laney@nightingale> apt-cache show python3-aiohttp | grep Depends                                                                                ~/temp
[17:04] <Laney> Depends: python3 (<< 3.5), python3 (>= 3.4~), python3-chardet, libc6 (>= 2.4)
[17:04] <Laney> seems to match bad
[17:05] <barry> Laney: hmm, i guess so.  okay, thanks, probably a no-change rebuild would fix that
[17:05] <Laney> that's usually what the transition tracker is telling you to do
[17:05] <Laney> in the best case, anyway. :P
[17:05] <barry> ;)
[17:06] <barry> Laney: thanks
[17:06] <slangasek> barry: wasn't python-aiohttp on the list of ftbfs packages?
[17:07] <barry> slangasek: i think i was just misinterpreting the page.  i'll investigate
[17:08] <slangasek> barry: confirmed; python-aiohttp was ftbfs in your ppa
[17:08] <barry> yep
[17:19] <slangasek> kirkland, seb128: backslashes and dollarsigns are certainly valid in usernames... but why is that bundled with a new pam config?  that doesn't look to me like something we should add to the package, there are already separate modules for dynamically creating home directories and his auto-enable-ecryptfs script encodes a lot of policy
[17:20] <kirkland> slangasek: thanks, agreed;  can you add a comment to that effect to the bug?
[17:20] <slangasek> yes
[17:23] <slangasek> kirkland: also they have a setup script that's passing the user's password on the commandline...
[17:33] <jdstrand> pitti: hey, I'm trying to run unmodified click-apparmor autopkgtests in a wily chroot using only packages from the archive (on a vivid host)
[17:34] <jdstrand> pitti: and I am seeing this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12072798/
[17:34] <jdstrand> pitti: the autopkgtest is creating a click file and trying to install it, but that is failing with a sandbox failure
[17:34] <jdstrand> pitti: have you seen that before? if not, how would I go about resolving this?
[17:38] <jdstrand> jibel: ^
[18:00] <jdstrand> pitti, jibel: ginore me for the moment-- this might be a symptom of a bad chroot
[18:05] <jdstrand> hmm, no
[18:06]  * jdstrand scratches head
[18:33] <doko> Laney, slangasek: why is http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/proj.html  zygrib still shown there, when it's not in the release pocket?
[18:34] <slangasek> doko: because the tracker doesn't care about -proposed vs. release, it cares about "newest binary".
[18:35] <doko> ahh, ok
[18:36] <slangasek> doko: this does tie into the discussion from last night, that if we're removing a package from wily we should leave it source-only in wily-proposed instead of leaving stale binaries there; I'll delete these now since they date back to an earlier transition failure
[18:37] <jdstrand> pitti, jibel: yes, at a loss. I'm still poking, but I could use some help with: Sandbox failure: 'click install' not permitted to write-open '/dev/pts/25'
[18:39] <slangasek> doko: removed the old package; this at least takes zygrib off the "urgent fixme" list in favor of the "we need to clean up -proposed" list
[19:10] <doko> apw, are you still looking at kicad?
[19:15] <apw> doko, i am looking at feel, which nearly built before the netowkr outage bust the builds ... pitti tells me kicad has the same issue, if so i'll confirm that in my boost ppa
[19:16] <doko> ta
[19:26]  * doko welcomes slangasek to the club of empty library package uploaders ;p
[19:29] <infinity> doko: But, was it libgcc?
[19:29] <infinity> doko: Cause I think the only person who could top that would be me shipping a libc6 with no libc.
[19:29] <slangasek> doko: was it d-shlibs?
[19:29] <slangasek> cuz d-shlibs
[19:33] <jdstrand> pitti, jibel: I filed bug #1484661
[19:34] <doko> slangasek, just saw mterry's changelog about bobcat
[19:35] <mterry> it's easy to do  :)
[19:41] <slangasek> doko, mterry: ah, lovely.  yes, the batch script didn't catch that case I'm afraid
[19:41] <slangasek> er though it should have
[19:41] <slangasek> sed -i -e"s/\([ |,=/]\)$oldpkg\([ |,:]\|$\)/\1$newpkg\2/g" debian/rules
[19:41] <slangasek> must've been an upload from an early revision of the script
[19:41] <slangasek> oh of course it was because alphabet
[19:41] <slangasek> sorry :/
[19:57] <bdmurray> seb128: I sorted out the ubuntu-release-upgrader pep8 issues, thanks
[20:00] <doko> which -dev package could have dropped dependencies on some multimedia packages such that asterisk ftbfs?
[20:01] <seb128> bdmurray, thanks!
[20:25] <doko> barry, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-sso-client/+bug/1484680   not sure if others will pick that up
[20:27] <barry> doko: ack.  looks shallow from first glance
[20:46] <doko> found the first ICE after changing the default ...
[21:07] <seb128> could somebody overwrite/retry the buggy bootest that makes the bluez update not considered?
[21:26] <doko> mterry, there seems to be a new boost.m4 somewhere which fixes this. didn't find the master source yet
[21:26] <mterry> doko, oh yeah?  thanks for fixing that in another package, I would never have figured that out on my own  :)
[21:27] <doko> d-shlibs should die
[21:29] <mterry> doko, I'd never seen it before.  Took me a bit to figure out why I had an empty package
[21:30] <mterry> doko, reading debdiffs for idle fun?  :)
[21:30] <doko> mterry, no, it was the -P in the changelog which spotted my interest =)
[21:31] <mterry> doko, beyond reading the man page for cpp, I wasn't entirely clear why boost suddenly started dying without -P
[21:31] <mterry> obviously linemarkers bugged it out
[21:31] <mterry> Just a weird change to happen
[21:33] <infinity> seb128: It's failing its own autopkgtest as well, that seems more dire?
[21:34] <seb128> infinity, hum, right, i'm going to look at that tomorrw, thanks for pointing it out ;-)
[21:39] <mterry> Can I get a NEW for libmems's v5 transition?
[21:39]  * mterry wants to push button on progressivemauve's rebuild before heading out
[21:40] <mterry> infinity, ^ ?
[21:45] <doko> slangasek, does your script fixes this now? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/214411099/libmsn_4.2.1-0ubuntu3_4.2.1-0ubuntu4.diff.gz
[21:47] <infinity> mterry: Still building on armhf, patience. :P
[21:47] <mterry> infinity, but I want it now!!!
[21:48] <mterry> infinity, fair enough, I have to jet though, will have to settle for pushing button in the morning  :)
[21:50] <infinity> mterry: Packaging looks good though, and so do the built binaries, will accept as soon as it's built.
[22:01] <slangasek> doko: no; and also your patch does not fix it...
[22:01] <doko> ?
[22:02] <slangasek> doko: you have the right package but the wrong -V argument ;)
[22:02] <doko> slangasek, hmm, at least kopete builds now
[22:02] <infinity> doko: You just made packages depend on the wrong package, unless you have a versioned provides.
[22:04] <doko> ahh, I see
[22:04] <infinity> And a versioned provides would completely break the point of renaming the library package, so I hope you don't have one.
[22:04] <doko> killing the kopete builds
[22:06] <doko> still wondering why the command succeeds with an unknown package
[22:08] <infinity> doko: The string you pass to -V isn't (and shouldn't be) validated, as you can have a package-foo-alt whose shlibs declares a dep on package-foo, or whatever.
[22:09] <infinity> doko: It's one of those 'enough rope' sort of interfaces.
[22:09] <doko> no, but slangasek's original upload called with -p <package not in control file>
[22:10] <infinity> Oh.  That one should have broken, depending on how debhelper stuff was called, yeah. ;)
[22:33] <slangasek> doko: yes, the original upload (from my original script) was buggy, the new upload was also buggy, but it seems we're converging now.  The latest version of my script still wouldn't DTRT here but the Debian release team have enough hints in that thread that they can fix it up for their own usage to address these bugs - I'm not futzing with it in Ubuntu anymore because the damage is done and anythin
[22:33] <slangasek> g that's broken is going to need manual attention now
[22:39] <doko> slangasek, which thread?
[22:42] <slangasek> doko: debian-devel
[22:45] <doko> which... don't ;-P
[23:29] <slangasek> so who keeps blindly retrying asterisk builds on amd64 and generating mail for me? :)
[23:32] <doko> slangasek, me. see my question on -devel/-release. anyway, afk now
[23:33] <doko> and finished the coinutils-g++5 transition by "blindly retrying"
[23:35] <slangasek> doko: I'm not seeing any question on any devel fwiw
[23:39] <doko> slangasek, hmm, maybe not sent. I was asking if some -dev package dropped dependencies on other -dev packages


[00:29] <Jak2000> in ubuntu howto:start restart mysql
[00:33] <patdk-lap> service mysql restart
[02:41] <twb> $customer has ordered me to make their tomcat servlet "work under linux", and given me an allegedly working box with the servlet running under XP to work from.
[02:42] <twb> Apparently the XP box has a "postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc4.jar" in its tomcat lib dir.  On Debian apt-file turns up a libpostgresql-jdbc-java: /usr/share/java/postgresql.jar, which sounds like what I want, but I can't find the same package under lucid -- why not?
[02:46] <ajmitch> twb: probably because it was added well after lucid released
[02:47] <ajmitch> twb: last release in debian changed the binary package name
[02:48] <ajmitch> it used to be libpg-java
[02:48] <twb> Ah, it's just a different package name?  Thanks.  I should probably just install apt-file on a lucid server.
[02:49] <twb> (I haven't yet because for some reason my local mirror has a broken Contents despite me telling debootstrap to sync it.  So that host would need non-mirror:// non-file:/// URLs in sources.list)
[05:10] <koolhead17> hi all
[05:11] <hallyn> stgraber: the lxc package at ppa:serge-hallyn/virt, merge with debian, seems to be working (passing lp:~serge-hallyn/+junk/lxc-test)
[05:31] <koolhead17> hallyn, can  you help me to understand this wiered kvm error log
[05:32] <koolhead17> http://paste.ubuntu.com/946826/
[05:33] <koolhead17> kvm              1:84+dfsg-0ubunt
[05:33] <koolhead17> my openstack setup seems to have gone 4 toss
[05:57] <hallyn> koolhead17: on precise?  (kvm version is not helpful)
[05:57] <koolhead17> hallyn, yes precise
[05:58] <hallyn> check the /var/log/libvirt/qemu/vmname.log , might have better info
[05:58] <koolhead17> k. i rebooted my system gimme few mins
[05:59] <hallyn> ok - i'll likely be in bed, pls feel free to open a bug, i'll look in the morning.  the monitor openign error looks weird
[05:59] <hallyn> almost like a dns error is causing it
[06:00] <koolhead17> k thanks
[06:41] <ruben23> mysql  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.1.61, <------------------gusy i ahve this mysql version can ias k what si teh default engine for this..InnoDB or MyISAm..?
[06:44] <ivoks> kees: around, by any chance? :)
[06:46] <bluefrog> ruben23, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/innodb-default-se.html
[06:48] <twb>  8 getaddrinfo(http://<IP_ADDRESS>,5900): Name or service not known
[06:48] <twb> Sounds like an obvious error to me
[06:49] <twb> Someone has put "http://<IP_ADDRESS>" where they should have put only "<IP_ADDRESS>"
[06:49] <twb> You do want to see the kvm log as hallyn suggested, though
[07:25] <ivoks> kees: please take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/resource-agents/+bug/833368/comments/3 - can this be solved by just changing defaults in lvm.conf, instead of using that patch?
[07:35]  * koolhead17 is happy :)
[08:56] <koolhead17> hallyn, thanks :)
[08:56]  * koolhead17 has complete setup working with latest openstack pkg. :)
[11:23] <koolhead17> somebody let me know when i can hit the download button  :)
[11:59] <ogra_> Daviey, rbasak, does the server team update the pandaboard server install instructions ?
[11:59] <ogra_> (since they still point to oneiric)
[11:59] <rbasak> I don't know who maintains that, sorry.
[11:59] <ogra_> well, its a server image
[12:00] <Daviey> ogra_: linky?
[12:00] <ogra_> GrueMaster used to maintain it, but he isnt with us anymore
[12:00] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Server/Install
[12:00] <rbasak> The instructions for a generic ARM server install should be based on armadaxp now.
[12:00] <rbasak> Did NCommander take an action on something related to this?
[12:01] <ogra_> i just updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OmapDesktopInstall in case you need a template
[12:01] <Daviey> rbasak: Is that something you can handle today?
[12:01] <NCommander> rbasak: it got sidetracked with release tasks
[12:02] <ogra_> rbasak, how do armadaxp instructions help the community to test server userspace on arm ? :)
[12:02] <rbasak> Daviey: rbasak or NCommander, and keep panda or replace with armadaxp?
[12:02] <NCommander> rbasak: keep the panda
[12:03]  * ogra_ would add armada instructions additionally on a separate page if you really expect that community people can buy these boards soon
[12:38] <Ztane> in 12.04 ec2 instance store images, can the kernel be updated within the instance?
[12:50] <Ztane> hmm
[12:55] <memoryleak> is it my fault or is the ubuntu site not available?
[12:56] <ogra_> its all your fault !
[12:56] <ogra_> (no, its actually known and being worked on)
[12:56] <memoryleak> ok
[12:56] <koolhead17> memoryleak, its working now :P
[13:07] <memoryleak> koolhead17: it still doesnt :)
[13:10] <memoryleak> how ever, the 12.04 server is final right?
[13:13] <koolhead17> memoryleak, i think so but Daviey or others be right folks
[13:15] <erichammond> The EC2 AMI ids for Ubuntu 12.04 Precise need to be updated on http://cloud.ubuntu.com/ami/
[13:15] <utlemming> erichammond: looking at that now
[13:15] <erichammond> That page is still showing the AMI ids for beta2 even though the query API is returning correct ids.
[13:17] <erichammond> Good job launching the AMIs with the rest of 12.04.  I've come to expect this level of excellence from Canonical, but now and then I remember how much work goes into it.
[13:18] <koolhead17> erichammond, are you the Alestic folk
[13:19] <erichammond> koolhead17: singular, yes.
[13:19] <koolhead17> erichammond, your doing good job
[13:19] <koolhead17> :)
[13:20] <erichammond> koolhead17: glad to help.
[13:23] <erichammond> http://www.canonical.com/ is not accepting connections.
[13:23] <erichammond> ah, nor is http://www.ubuntu.com/
[13:24] <smb> release day ...
[13:24] <daker> i guess this is due to the hight demand
[13:24] <lynxman-> the website is being hammered to the extreme
[13:25] <ogra_> known, being worked on
[13:25] <smb> lynxman-, I am sure you can see lots of hair being pulled :)
[13:25] <lynxman-> smb: not in the office today, otherwise I definitely would :D
[13:25] <smb> :)
[13:25] <smoser> erichammond, i'll poke on cloud.ubuntu.com/ami .
[13:25] <smoser> that actually reads /query, which is updated, so i'm not sure what is going wrong.
[13:26] <erichammond> smoser: utlemming may also be looking at it.
[13:26] <smoser> yeah. he pinged me too.
[13:27] <erichammond> smoser: yep, Alestic.com is picking up the correct AMI ids from /query
[13:27] <smoser> erichammond, note, though... i think that is kind of deprecated. :-(
[13:28] <smoser> i've tried to get a few minor things fixed with it
[13:28] <smoser> bug 907362
[13:29] <smoser> bug 904910, bug 898846
[13:29] <smoser> they were largely closed as invalid due to bug 920538
[13:43] <erichammond> smoser: I'm confused about how bug 920538 is marked fixed released, but cloud.u.c/ami does not redirect to cloud-images.u.c
[13:46] <smoser> erichammond, well, the link to that is gone (i think)
[13:46] <smoser> ie, you only know of it because you know of it.
[13:47] <SysTom> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ <- is that the "released" 12.04 LTS?
[13:52] <Pici> scubes13: yes
[13:52] <Pici> scubes13: oops
[13:52] <Pici> SysTom: yes
[13:53] <SysTom> Thanks
[13:55] <erichammond> smoser: The page itself should be replace with either a redirect or a hyperlink to the recommended replacement.  Just because you don't link to it doesn't mean there aren't other links to it.  In fact, it's the second result on Google for "ubuntu amis"
[13:57] <smoser> well, largely it continued to work.
[13:57] <smoser> and i think i convinced people that it at least should continue ot.
[14:04] <erichammond> smoser: I think it's fine to have multiple ways to get at the same information so people can choose what works best for them.
[14:05] <erichammond> but now we're back to getting the AMI ids to be correct on that page.
[14:06] <smoser> yes.
[14:07] <erichammond> precise uses the same AKI as oneiric.  Nice.
[14:08] <paws> Alternate Koolaid Interface?
[14:08] <koolhead17> nijaba_tab, //O.o\\
[14:09] <kgee> I have 3 web servers, ubuntu, ubuntu, and mac on my LAN. I can get to each of them through localhost, yet only the mac server is available over the LAN. This leads me to believe there is some network blocking/firewall rule on the default ubuntu install that is preventing access. Can anyone confirm/deny this?
[14:10] <EvilResistance> kgee:  what're you running on the ubuntu servers?
[14:10] <EvilResistance> by default, there's no firewall rules
[14:10] <EvilResistance> (but your network might be blocking it)
[14:11] <kgee> EvilResistance: yeah, I'm trying to narrow down the problem but I'm hitting nothing but air here. The catch is that the ubuntu servers are virtual machines, and the router I have is a piece of garbage. However, since I can get to the mac server remotely I'm led to believe the router is not the culprit
[14:11] <kgee> and the virtual machines have their own IP address over a bridged network adapter, so that usually lets things run smoothly
[14:12] <EvilResistance> emphasis on *usually* :P
[14:12]  * EvilResistance has similar setups with VBox on his active-development laptop, and sometimes things explode
[14:12] <frankban>  hi hallyn: when you have a minute, I'd like to talk about lxc-ip.
[14:13] <kgee> regardless, if my router has ip addresses in the dhcp lease table to match the output from ifconfig, I imagine the network is set up properly....
[14:29] <Apreche> Does anyone know when the official AMIs will be updated? Thanks.
[14:40] <erichammond> Apreche: Official AMIs for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise have been released.
[14:40] <andygraybeal_> AMI ?
[14:40] <andygraybeal_> american megatrend ?
[14:40] <Apreche> erichammond: awesome, but I don't see them on http://cloud.ubuntu.com/ami/ Do you have the AMI-IDs?
[14:41] <wiherek> hi
[14:41] <erichammond> Apreche: That page is being updated.  In the meantime I list the AMI ids on the top right of http://Alestic.com
[14:41] <wiherek> i am getting a postfix-policyd related error while trying to install iredmail
[14:41] <Apreche> erichammond: sweet, thanks!
[14:41] <wiherek> on ubuntu 11.10
[14:41] <weblinux> does anybody know how to host torrents/make them
[14:42] <erichammond> Apreche: and you can get to them by clicking around here: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/
[14:42] <patdk-wk> weblinux, sure
[14:42] <weblinux> do u have a name of a program. thats all i need
[14:43] <hallyn> frankban: what's up?
[14:44] <frankban> hallyn: finally I had time to write the script, following your suggestions: it uses Python/ctypes to call setns and get_init_pid (from liblxc). You can find the relevant MP here: https://code.launchpad.net/~frankban/lpsetup/lp-lxc-ip/+merge/103502
[14:44] <hallyn> frankban: ooh, aweseome
[14:44] <frankban> hallyn: I'd really like you opinion about the script, and in particular a suggestion about line 209: get_init_pid(name[:85])
[14:44] <erichammond> weblinux: Here's how I host torrents (using AWS): http://alestic.com/2012/04/aws-s3-torrent
[14:44] <kirkland> jcastro: what happened to #ubuntu-cloud?  freenode is saying that it's invite-only now
[14:44] <frankban> hallyn: There I slice the container's name to avoid a buffer overflow error, and I'd like to know if there is a way to systematically identify the max length of the string (rather than using the number 85, found by trial and error).
[14:45] <erichammond> kirkland: I was told that #ubuntu-cloud is supposed to redirect here now.
[14:45] <kirkland> erichammond: that's what they all say....  all the good secret stuff is really happening there :-)
[14:45] <hallyn> frankban: looking
[14:45] <erichammond> :-)
[14:45] <kirkland> :-D
[14:46] <frankban> hallyn: thanks
[14:47] <hallyn> frankban: i should probably look at liblxc before asking - but is it PATH_MAX you're looking for?
[14:48] <hallyn> I think the library should be doing the sanity checking
[14:48] <frankban> hallyn: I've looked PATH_MAX, but I don't know how to obtain the number 85 starting from that
[14:49] <hallyn> frankban: no, i think lxc_command() should be using snprintf and checking its return value
[14:49] <hallyn> I've been meaning to do an audit of the lxc code ...
[14:50] <hallyn> frankban: which releases would you be using that on?  precise+?
[14:50] <frankban> hallyn: yes
[14:50] <hallyn> Does what i'm saying make sense to you, or does it sound like the problem you were addressing might be different?
[14:50] <doctormon> I'm interested in looking at JuJu charms, but I can't find a list of available charms.
[14:51] <jcastro> http://jujucharms.com/
[14:52] <hallyn> frankban: let me hand you a package (in a bit) to test on without your slicing the name
[14:53] <frankban> hallyn: it makes sense. I've already encountered buffer overflows when trying to call get_init_pid without the slicing
[14:54] <hallyn> kind of embarassing :(
[14:55] <frankban> hallyn: ah! and also lxc-info suffers from the same problem
[14:56] <hallyn> because of its call to lxc_init_pid()?
[14:56] <hallyn> i hope
[14:57] <frankban> I didn't checked that, but it's reasonable
[14:58] <frankban> hallyn: however, I am really interested in your opinions about my branch
[14:59] <hallyn> ah, sorry, got distracted :)  lemme look again
[14:59] <hallyn> (distracted with the security implications)
[15:01] <hallyn> note that you don't really need to re-set the netns at the end (cause you're going to exit), but it doesn't hurt
[15:02] <doctormon> thanks jcastro
[15:02] <frankban> hallyn: I do that basically to isolate tests
[15:03] <doctormon> bogger, no openldap charms.
[15:03] <hallyn> frankban: I've never done anything quite so awesome in python :)  looks great
[15:03] <wiherek> alrite, so.. I found the package here:
[15:03] <wiherek> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/oneiric/universe/base/postfix-policyd
[15:04] <wiherek> but how can I install it
[15:04] <wiherek> from the terminal?
[15:04] <hallyn> frankban: what do you think about searching /sys/class/net in the container for an interface?  maybe if given --search-interface option?
[15:04] <wiherek> there is no direct link to the file
[15:04] <designbybeck> hello all, I'm trying to find a "whats new" in 12.04 server. where might be the best place to look?
[15:06] <frankban> hallyn: interesting, you mean, retrieving interface names from the directory names inside /sys/class/net and then return all ip addresses for each interface?
[15:12] <hallyn> frankban: not for lo, but the others, yes
[15:12] <frankban> hallyn: sounds great
[15:12] <hallyn> frankban: thanks for writing that.
[15:13] <frankban> hallyn: thank you for your hints. So i suppose I can remove the slicing once the bug you filed is fixed
[15:17] <SysTom> resolve.conf gets overwritten on reboot on 12.04 LTS, I'm not using DHCP on the eth0 interface
[15:18] <SysTom> I see the whole "do not edit this file by hand" warning, but am unsure on the supported method for manually supplying nameservers
[15:19] <smb> SysTom, There is a description in man resolvconf
[15:19] <smb> requires two lines in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:19] <smb> (which I usually forget the exact syntax off)
[15:20] <SysTom> smb: Thanks, I'll check it out
[15:28] <SysTom> smb: That worked
[15:28] <SysTom> (Obviously!)
[15:29] <smb> :)
[15:40] <cocoa117> how do you run program in different userid?
[15:51] <RichardRaseley> Congrats on the 12.04 release to all the contributors!
[15:56] <halvors> I'm trying to setup a PXE boot server.
[15:56] <halvors> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[15:57] <halvors> Reqarding to this, the root of the tftp server should be "/media/cdrom/install/netboot/"
[15:57] <halvors> But in 12.04 it seems like it don't exists...
[15:57] <halvors> Anyone knows why?
[16:12] <dob> why is a do-release-upgrade not possible with 10.04 to 12.04?
[16:15] <ogra_> dob, because for LTS thats only enabled when the .1 release shows up
[16:15] <ogra_> 10.04 -> 12.04.1
[16:37] <Karwin> Does anyone know if there is a fast upgrade path from 10.04 LTS directly to 12.04 LST?
[16:42] <de_> hello.. its there anyone using maas?
[16:43] <patdk-wk> Karwin, yes, that is a supported upgrade path
[16:43] <patdk-wk> do-release-upgrade :)
[16:43] <Karwin> Thank you
[16:57] <zrtsch> Hello
[16:57] <zrtsch> Does anyone know what causes the error mountall: Plymouth command failed, mountall: Disconnected from plymouth ? This is happening on first install on several machines lately
[16:57] <zrtsch> I've fixed it before by editing the grub line, but now I forget what it was that I changed
[16:57] <zrtsch> People online are referring to nvidia drivers, but I just installed ubuntu minimal. I don't have any nvidia drivers installed.
[16:59] <zrtsch> nomodeset, I think that was it.
[17:02] <Ztane> hmm ec2 images now handle authorized_keys on ubuntu differently, right?
[17:03] <Ztane> we've been building 10.04 images with ec2-bundle-vol and expected that the authorized_keys on ubuntu account stay the same, now with 12.04 cannot login anymore
[17:14] <Ztane> hmm so how to modify this?
[17:24] <Ztane> wtf really
[17:25] <Ztane> I specify the "webserver-keys" as key name for boto run_instances but am still unable to log in
[17:51] <jcastro> smoser: utlemming: erichammond: cloud.u.c ami browser fixed, sorry about that.
[17:53] <kennett> I need help with accessing my server  through a domain name.
[17:53] <zrtsch> 'through' a domain name?
[17:53] <smoser> utlemming, mosh is pretty cool. thanks for pointing me at that. thing that sucks though is that i only opne port 22 by default on instances.
[17:54] <zrtsch> why not open a non-default port?
[17:54] <kennett> like myserver.dyndns.com
[17:58] <kennett> I'm trying to access my server through the web can some1 help me?
[18:01] <kennett> I tried using dynamic dns but I can't get it to work.
[18:05] <stefg> kennett: but you know your servers IP, right?
[18:06] <kennett> IP on the network?
[18:06] <stefg> kennett: public IP... so this implies your server is nat'ted behind a router?
[18:07] <kennett> Yes I know the  IP.
[18:08] <stefg> kennett: so given that you have openssh-server installed it should as simple as ssh <server-ip> -p <port> (if its not 22)
[18:09] <stefg> !ssh
[18:10] <kennett> I have a site with pics and stuff that I'm trying view.
[18:11] <stefg> and your browser says what?
[18:11] <limpc> hi guys
[18:11] <limpc> i upgraded to 12.04 this morning (new partition, new system)
[18:12] <limpc> having trouble re-establishing some sshfs maps i had previously though
[18:12] <limpc> shows owner and gid as "???"
[18:12] <limpc> and access denied when i try to go into the folder i mapped it to
[18:12] <stefg> kennett: if DNS isn't working you can still just type the IP into your browsers address bar
[18:12] <kennett> It says theres an error when I'm outside the network.
[18:12] <limpc> I do specify the uid/gid in sshfs params, uid=1000,gid=1000 which are correct
[18:13] <stefg> kennett: so this "server" lives behind a router in a LAN, and not in a DMZ, right?
[18:13] <kennett> Right
[18:14] <stefg> kennett: so it isn't publicly accesible... you need to set up a DMZ, or use VPN to first connect to the remote LAN and reach the server from within this LAN.
[18:15] <limpc> nevermind i found the issue
[18:15] <limpc> looks like its a bug with the version that ships with ubuntu 12.04
[18:16] <stefg> kennett: so without gaining access to that machine you'll not be able to reach it from outside the LAN now
[18:16] <kennett> I can't use port forwarding?
[18:17] <stefg> kennett: you could.... if you use non-standard ports. You'll not like to set up port forwarding for 80 :-)
[18:17] <limpc> exit
[18:18] <kennett> So what do I need to do to get it to work?
[18:19] <stefg> kennett: first of all access to the server and to the router...
[18:20] <stefg> kennett: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMZ_%28computing%29
[18:29] <kennett> So if I turn on DMZ it should let me access the server?
[18:33] <stefg> kennett: you don't "turn on" a DMZ, you are creating a subnet separate from the 192.168.x.x LAN. so the server needs a new IP, and this DMZ subnet needs to be publicly accessible. (which is what what a typical home router tries to prevent....)
[18:35] <stefg> kennett: so it's a bad idea of mixing server and desktop workloads on the same machine.... the server should only have a minimum footprint, thus no X, nor unnecessary services
[18:36] <stefg> !ebox
[18:36] <kennett> So how can I set this up?
[18:37] <kennett> I use webmin.
[18:38] <stefg> see above ... first check your routers docu how to create a DMZ, then you'll probably have to physically change the network wiring and put your server in that DMZ
[18:39] <stefg> kennett: BTW webmin isn't officically sanctioned for ubuntu,
[18:39] <stefg> !webmin
[18:51] <kennett> stefg: I'm back.
[18:55] <kennett> stefg: Can you help me set it up?
[18:56] <stefg> kennett: i'm about to leave... and actually this is beyond the scope of ubuntu support, it's a course in LAN engineering :-)
[18:58] <Jak2000> how to install the ftp client on a ubuntu-server? (root@core /backup/mysql# ftp <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:58] <Jak2000> -bash: ftp: command not found)
[18:58] <kennett> stefg: OK np.
[18:59] <stefg> !info ncftp
[19:00] <Jak2000> stefg: root@core /backup/mysql# ncftp <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:00] <Jak2000> -bash: ncftp: command not found
[19:00] <Jak2000> same error
[19:00] <stefg> Jak2000: sudo apt-get install ncftp
[19:02] <Jak2000> http://pastebin.com/4JUT7rQX
[19:03] <Jak2000> cant install
[19:03] <stefg> Jak2000: ubuntu 12.04 just came out, there servers are swamped ...
[19:04] <Jak2000> i am on a old version of ubuntu?
[19:04] <stefg> Jak2000: and if you just want to d/l something... wget is you friend
[19:05] <stefg> Jak your on 10.04 LTS... perfect for a workhorse server
[19:05] <Jak2000> with wget how to get files form a Ftp server these are stored in /MysUbubtufiles/
[19:07] <stefg> Jak2000: man wget is much smarter than i am....
[19:19] <_ruben> bah .. dutch mirror changed ip .. breaking my sync .. now im 5GB of package behind :p
[19:22] <henkjan> _ruben: thats why people use dns ;)
[19:22] <_ruben> then again .. at 60Mbps it's going fairly quick
[19:22] <_ruben> henkjan: restrictive outbound firewall using ip addresses :/
[19:33] <alphanum> Hello. Pici referred me to your channel.
[19:33] <alphanum> He said you guys were keen on ec2.
[19:33] <alphanum> I am looking for an ubuntu vpn ami, but am unsure which to pick
[19:34] <alphanum> rather, how to set it up
[19:35]  * alphanum waits
[19:36] <_ruben> that's usualy the best approach indeed, wait :)
[19:36] <_ruben> (no ec2 experience here)
[19:36] <alphanum> :)
[19:37] <alphanum> It's like a hunting session, really--have you ever seen animal planet?
[19:37] <alphanum> The lioness waits hours on end for a lone zebra to drink from a lake?
[19:37] <_ruben> ;)
[19:39] <alphanum> Upon building a VPN w/ ec2, how easy is it to identify that you're connecting through it?
[19:40] <alphanum> Taftse, FACEFOX, are you keen on ec2?
[19:40] <Taftse> sorry ?
[19:40] <Taftse> ec2 ?
[19:41] <Taftse> alphanum, what you talking about ?
[19:41] <alphanum> amazon web services?
[19:41] <Taftse> ok
[19:50] <alphanum> So, is anyone keen on ec2?
[19:52] <alphanum> hi Jak2000
[19:52] <alphanum> are you inactive?
[19:53] <alphanum> hi marrusl
[19:54] <Pici> alphanum: This channel isn't as busy as #ubuntu is.
[19:54] <alphanum> I know :(
[19:54] <alphanum> I'm trying to figure out how to build a vpn via ams
[19:54] <Pici> alphanum: And to answer your question about the ec2 VPN, just use something to determine your ip address. If it points to the VPN, then your traffic is going through it.
[19:54] <alphanum> perhaps I should try google again
[19:55] <alphanum> I mean, I know that but I want to create a vpn via ec2
[19:55] <erichammond> alphanum: What do you mean "create a vpn via EC2"?
[19:56] <alphanum> launch a micro instance; ubuntu openvps ami
[19:56] <erichammond> Do you want to communicate with your EC2 instances via a VPN? communicate with the Internet using a VPN to EC2 as a gateway out of your local firewall? something else?
[19:56] <alphanum> run traffic from my home comp to aws ec2 vpn
[19:57] <alphanum> Does that clear things up?
[19:57] <erichammond> alphanum: The basic process is (1) start an EC2 instance running Ubuntu, (2) install and configure the VPN like you would for any Ubuntu server.
[19:58] <erichammond> There's no need to try to find an AMI that has VPN pre-installed.
[19:58] <alphanum> I have never set up a server in my life.
[19:58] <alphanum> Maybe windows instance suits me more closely?
[19:58] <erichammond> You have a fun road ahead of you :-)
[19:58] <erichammond> Probably the wrong channel to offer you that sort of advice.
[19:59] <alphanum> :(
[19:59] <alphanum> mind a pm?
[19:59] <erichammond> alphanum: Here's an old article I wrote providing instructions on how to set up openVPN with EC2 to escape a restricted network: http://alestic.com/2009/05/openvpn-ec2
[20:00] <erichammond> Karmic is past end-of-life, so you'd need to adapt to a more modern Ubuntu.
[20:01] <erichammond> There is a lot of documentation available on how to get things done with Ubuntu and Ubuntu servers.  Once you have an EC2 instance running, almost all of it applies.
[20:02]  * erichammond heads off to the office.
[20:04] <philipballew_> ubuntu server over windows anyday
[20:20] <pabelanger> well, that is kinda sucky:$ ls -la | grep glance
[20:20] <pabelanger> drwx------   2 glance   glance    4096 Apr 26 16:19 glance
[20:20] <pabelanger> not even rw permission for the group
[21:14]  * michael_tn waves, good day all
[21:14] <michael_tn> i'm spinning up a new maas build and having a bit of trouble
[21:15] <michael_tn> went through the config and it looks like dnsmasq is not getting configured, the config is all pounded out
[21:27] <robbiew> michael_tn: did you install maas-dhcp?
[21:27] <michael_tn> apt-get install maas-dhcp
[21:28] <michael_tn> answered the on screen prompts with my network info
[21:29] <michael_tn> but end up with fully commented out /etc/dnsmasq.conf
[21:29] <robbiew> hmm
[21:29] <michael_tn> nod, what i said too :-)
[21:30] <robbiew> RoAkSoAx: any ideas? ^
[21:31] <roaksoax> michael_tn: a fully commented out? can you pastebinit
[21:31] <michael_tn> sure
[21:31] <roaksoax> thanks
[21:33] <michael_tn> http://pastebin.com/aMxdKh70
[21:35] <roaksoax> michael_tn: ah
[21:35] <roaksoax> michael_tn: ok, I was confused
[21:36] <roaksoax> michael_tn: so dnsmasq gets configured but it does why using a template, not /etc/dnsmasq.conf
[21:37] <michael_tn> hmmm?
[21:37] <roaksoax> michael_tn: it uses /etc/cobbler/dnsmasq.template
[21:37] <michael_tn> ok
[21:37] <michael_tn> lemme look
[21:37] <michael_tn> ok
[21:38] <michael_tn> that looks correct :-)
[21:38] <robbiew> RoAkSoAx: but I thought cobbler generated /etc/dnsmasq.conf from the template
[21:38] <robbiew> does he need to run a `maas-import-iso`?
[21:39] <robbiew> maas-import-iso*s* :/
[21:39] <michael_tn> its running now
[21:39] <michael_tn> still running
[21:40] <pabelanger> Well, this is not good. Nova's logging system has DEBUG level logs enabled by default.  Not a good default level for a production box
[21:40] <pabelanger> looks like a bug in nova's log.py code
[21:40] <michael_tn> i'll let it finish and restart and see its state
[21:41] <michael_tn> thanks guys!
[21:41] <michael_tn> i'll check back in tomorrow :-)
[21:46] <roaksoax> robbiew: noep, dnsmasq ships a commented out config file per se
[21:47] <roaksoax> robbiew: maas-provision just tells dnsmasq to use the "template" config file
[21:47] <robbiew> oh
[21:47] <robbiew> command line?
[21:47] <robbiew> gotcha...so it passes the "template" file as the config file
[21:47] <robbiew> got it
[21:47] <roaksoax> yes
[22:01] <drecute> does sudo postconf -e 'home_mailbox = Maildir/' mean that Maildir is chosen as default mailbox format or it just specifies a directory?
[22:05] <roaksoax> robbiew: my bad, it does use the template to generate a new /etc/dnsmasq.conf, idk why I thought it just passed the template as a config file
[22:05] <robbiew> :)
[22:05]  * robbiew figured you might have changed it, as I recall it doing that when I was playing with it
[22:05] <robbiew> no worries
[22:06] <robbiew> again, I think you have to run maas-import-isos after installing maas-dhcp
[22:06] <robbiew> that triggers the cobbler reload...or whatever it's called
[22:06] <roaksoax> robbiew: yes, it has to be run, as itruns 'cobbler sync'
[22:07] <drecute> i want mails to be stored in a cifs mounted filesystem. How do I do this?
[22:09] <roaksoax> robbiew: what it does do though, is that it uses a cobbler hosts file (with dnsname, mac, ip) and the template sources from there
[22:09] <robbiew> ack
[22:10] <robbiew> drecute: I suggest trying http://askubuntu.com/questions/ask
[22:12] <robbiew> RoAkSoAx: did you catch my email about https://maas.ubuntu.com/images/ephemeral/releases/precise/
[22:12] <robbiew> who creates those?...as we need a newer one ;)
[22:21] <hallyn> stgraber: I'm about to push 0.8.0~rc1-4ubuntu1 to quantal.  I expect to have 0.8.0-rc2-based from debian soon, so it won't stay long...  but anyway, if you'd like to take a look first, pls let me know
[22:24] <hallyn> (it's at http://people.canonical.com/~serge/lxc_0.8.0~rc1-4ubuntu1.dsc, freshly rsync'ed)
[22:27] <flaccid> http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/precise/ only seems to be daily, where is final?
[22:28] <flaccid> smoser: any idea when final precise AMIs available?
[22:29] <drecute> robbiew: ok
[22:29] <drecute> robbiew: hoping to get an answer
[22:31] <robbiew> utlemming: ^^
[22:32] <robbiew> flaccid: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/
[22:40] <flaccid> ah right thanks, bit weird how thats not linked to from http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/precise/
[22:45] <erichammond> robbiew: Perhaps it's worth having a short UDS session or hallway discussion to talk about how to make AMI ids easier to find and use.
[22:45] <robbiew> erichammond: amen to that :)
[22:46] <robbiew> erichammond: I suggest just pulling utlemming and smoser aside and discussing it...b/c right now, we can't set the length of UDS sessions...all fixed :/
[22:47]  * robbiew notes this is a wishlist for UDS scheduling :)
[22:47] <erichammond> I'm going to plug hiding 32-bit and instance-store unless the user specifically clicks to request seeing them.  If a new user wants to run Ubuntu on EC2, there's really just one AMI id needed right now for each region (Ubuntu 12.04 Precise, 64-bit, EBS boot) and making them dig for it in a list of dozens is cruel.
[22:48] <robbiew> agreed
[22:56] <flaccid> did they just use the builds from the 24th for the final ? noticing the datestamps on these images
[22:59] <henkjan> flaccid: yep
[22:59] <flaccid> yeek i could of released MCIs already, ah wells i will just do today, thanks
[23:06] <SpamapS> flaccid: "MCI" ?
[23:06]  * SpamapS remembers when that was a phone company
[23:06] <flaccid> yeah http://support.rightscale.com/21-Community/RightScale_OSS#Ubuntu_MultiCloud_Images
[23:06] <flaccid> i'll update the alph2 ones to final
[23:18] <eftepede> Hi.
[23:18] <eftepede> I have ubuntu-server 11.10. Tried to do release-upgrade to 12.04, but since it's OpenVZ guest on host with 2.6.18, everything just broke down.
[23:19] <eftepede> Is there anything I can do?
[23:19] <eftepede> With most of my software I get:
[23:19] <eftepede> irssi: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0)
[23:19] <doctormon> eftepede: Sounds like a binary package didn't get uninstalled correctly.
[23:21] <eftepede> doctormon: Which one?
[23:21] <eftepede> libc?
[23:21] <eftepede> WARNING: this version of the GNU libc requires kernel version^M
[23:21] <eftepede> 2.6.24 or later. Please upgrade your kernel before installing^M
[23:21] <eftepede> glibc.^M
[23:21] <eftepede> it's from screenlog
[23:21] <doctormon> eftepede: Not sure, hard to tell from here. what's uname -a say?
[23:22] <eftepede> Linux insomniac 2.6.18-238.9.1.el5.028stab089.1 #1 SMP Thu Apr 14 14:06:01 MSD 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:22] <doctormon> eftepede: reboot server, use newer kernel.
[23:22] <eftepede> I can't.
[23:22] <eftepede> It's kernel on OpenVZ host.
[23:22] <eftepede> Not my local server.
[23:23] <eftepede> And I can't access OpenVZ host.
[23:23] <doctormon> eftepede: Then you're buggered I shouldn't wonder. you don't have ssh access?
[23:23] <eftepede> I have.
[23:23] <eftepede> Machine is not rebooted.
[23:24] <doctormon> The reboot command wouldn't reboot? or it would reboot in a way that would break?
[23:24] <eftepede> I suppose reboot is not a good idea now.
[23:24] <eftepede> Machine won't start properly, I guess.
[23:25] <doctormon> Do you have much invested in it? Upgrading without being able to reboot = bad idea.
[23:25] <eftepede> Not sure if I understand you correctly. I have the 'ability' to reboot.
[23:26] <eftepede> I'm just worried, that system is too broken to start properly.
[23:26]  * RoyK is tired and wants his servers and network to work a bit better
[23:27] <eftepede> My only idea now is to manualy change sources.
[23:28] <doctormon> RoyK: Have you tried putting the ethernet wires in diluted metal shavings? ;-)
[23:28] <eftepede> But will it perform a downgrade?
[23:28] <doctormon> eftepede: No, downgrade your machine manually if you have to. There isn't an automatic way to downgrade but if you spend all night on it, it can be done.
[23:29] <doctormon> eftepede: Or just accept that you've messed it up and try to recover a fresh install (somehow)
[23:29] <eftepede> I can't - it's shell server for ~50 users, the last thing I want is to reinstall it ;-)
[23:29] <eftepede> Or maybe: I can, but it's the last option, if everything fails.
[23:35] <qman__> eftepede, unfortunately, as far as I know, there is no way to roll back an upgrade
[23:35] <qman__> you must manually remove and reinstall the old versions
[23:35] <qman__> which is a huge task for an entire server that's been upgraded
[23:36] <qman__> you should never do a release upgrade on a server that 1) isn't backed up 2) is in production 3) you don't have physical access to
[23:36] <qman__> and virtualization always throws another wrench in
[23:37] <SpamapS> utlemming: hey, I think I can say this with confidence after a few days.. the S3 mirrors are *fast*
[23:38] <eftepede> qman__: I know the basics, really ;-) a) I have backed up most important things; b) it's my private machine on which I have some shell accounts for my friends, so it's just kind of 'production'; c) it's hard to have physical access to virtual machine ;-)
[23:39] <eftepede> Reinstall is still an option - but I want to avoid it.
[23:40] <qman__> IMO that will be easier
[23:41] <eftepede> http://pastebin.com/aJxx7GDw - it's when problems starred. Sorry for syntax, it's from screenlog :/
[23:42] <eftepede> So upgrading libc from 2.13 to 2.15 caused all this.
[23:43] <qman__> the problem is that running 12.04 means running a kernel much newer than the one you have
[23:43] <qman__> running your old kernel isn't an option with the right version of libc
[23:43] <qman__> and running an older version of libc means running lots of other new software won't work either
[23:43] <eftepede> Yup. Unfortunatelly as I'm not the owner of host machine, I can't upgrade.
[23:43] <qman__> so, in short, upgrading to 12.04 is not an option
[23:44] <eftepede> Now I know it ;-)
[23:44] <eftepede> I didn't know, that 2.6.18 will be too old and I need 2.6.25
[23:44] <eftepede> s/25/24/
[23:44] <qman__> the only way to restore your system is to remove all upgraded packages, and reinstall the packages they replaced
[23:44] <qman__> 12.04 actually runs 3.2
[23:45] <qman__> though that libc doesn't depend on such a new kernel, other things probably do
[23:45] <eftepede> Yes, I know. I have lot non-virtualized machines on 11.10 at work and I know, that they're using 3.x
[23:45] <qman__> 2.6.18 is _really_ old though
[23:46] <qman__> even ubuntu 8.04 is running 2.6.24
[23:46] <eftepede> I'm aware of that, too. Maybe I can ask OpenVZ-host owner to upgrade.
[23:46] <eftepede> But it will be followed by reboot of all virtual machines, mine included.
[23:46] <eftepede> And I'm really afraid to reboot mine ;-)
[23:47] <qman__> it's probably hosed either way
[23:47] <doctormon> qman__: Agreed
[23:47] <qman__> only way I can see of fixing it is to boot a live environment and chroot, then go through manual dependency hell to downgrade
[23:47] <qman__> hours of work at best
[23:47] <doctormon> Although you'll want to eat your own foot that do it again ;-)
[23:49] <eftepede> I need to choose, if I want to have hours of this hell or days of hell restoring users accounts ;-)
[23:49] <eftepede> As my /home was not backed up and users were aware of this, I don't care about data.
[23:50] <eftepede> But they'll want their accounts back
[23:50] <qman__> keep in mind also that it won't be what it was before
[23:51] <doctormon> eftepede: And you might have run out of coffee by the end.
[23:52] <eftepede> The worst thing is, I have last cigarette and it's 2:00 am here, so I can't but another box ;-)
[23:53] <qman__> unless you've got a comprehensive list of all packages that you upgraded from, and all packages that you upgraded to, you're probably going to spend days, not hours
[23:53] <qman__> if not weeks
[23:53] <eftepede> But: I'm not afraid of that manual dependency hell. I'm working as system administrator, so it's kinda 'funny' problem for me to solve. Reinstall is just too easy. It MUST be the way to get thins working again ;-)
[23:54] <eftepede> s/thins/things/
[23:54] <qman__> it's always possible, the question is if it's worth it
[23:54] <eftepede> And "I work as", excuse my bad grammar.
[23:54] <qman__> and in my opinion, and I'm guessing doctormon's as well, it's not nearly worth it
[23:54] <qman__> you've very seriously broken it with no easy way back
[23:55] <eftepede> Ok, I'll figure out what to do tomorrow. I'll consult with my ubuntu-sysadmins at work (I'm mostly involed with *BSD systems) and decide, which way to choose.
[23:56] <eftepede> Thanks your guys for your time and opinions, take care ;-)
[23:56] <doctormon> qman__: Agreed, I know I'd rather walk a 1,000 miles to the data center, put on burglar outfit, sky hook my way in to the building and get access to the machine.
[23:56] <doctormon> eftepede: good night and good luck!
[23:56] <eftepede> Tx, bye.


[07:25] <lp2skyline> Sorry I've been super busy
[07:26] <guiverc> You don't have to explain life; we all experience it (we respond when we can)...   If you want to go to gdoc, I can explain what I did if helpful.
[07:29] <guiverc> (https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ZbtFHQq6uMj7iuRLd11VH8V5Uc_FA0IfgiRUcbMbQk/edit is the link I'm using,  there is a shorter link in our wiki pages but I'd have to find that & am lazy sorry)
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[01:35] <cerebrate> harrisr mentioned some need for assistance with libre and ubuntu
[01:35] <cerebrate> he can elaborate
[01:35] <cerebrate> or tell more about it
[01:35] <cerebrate> i dont know his issue *shrug*
[02:25] <growingpains08> hello
[02:28] <growingpains08> anyone here?
[02:28] <holstein> growingpains08: sure.. ask if you have a question
[02:29] <growingpains08> trying to look for all files with the name list in there
[02:29] <growingpains08> in them
[02:29] <growingpains08> and I type  find . -name *list*
[02:29] <growingpains08> which doesn't work
[02:29] <growingpains08> but if i type find . -name *list\*
[02:29] <growingpains08> it works
[02:29] <growingpains08> and i dont  know why.  what is the "\" for
[07:23] <Sisyphus1> Is anyone there?
[07:23] <Sisyphus1> I'
[07:23] <Sisyphus1> Sorry, one sec.
[07:23] <Sisyphus1> I've got a problem that I think is probably rather advanced.
[07:26] <JoseeAntonioR> Sisyphus1: may I help?
[07:27] <Sisyphus1> Indeed I HOPE so, lol.
[07:27] <Sisyphus1> Here's the breakdown, in simplest terms.
[07:27] <Sisyphus1> Supermicro X7DAL-E+ motherboard. Server board. Two 64-bit Xeon 3.0 Ghz processors.
[07:28] <Sisyphus1> I've gotten 64-bit Ubuntu installed... but I can only boot into it when using the SuperGRUB2 Recovery disk.
[07:28] <Sisyphus1> Got Windows 7 to work on it... but I had to "force" it on there, in an odd way.
[07:29] <Sisyphus1> Like, I had to install the 5000x chipset drivers, then re-boot, then I could install it.
[07:29] <Sisyphus1> ...the Supermicro Website only has the drivers for Linux RedHat, and I haven't figured out how to install them and get them to work in Ubuntu.
[07:30] <Sisyphus1> There are other issues, but I figure we might start with that one, lol.
[07:30] <Sisyphus1> ...it's a pretty important one, I think. :P
[07:33] <Sisyphus1> ...so anyway I yanked out the HDD with Win 7 on it and I've been trying to get Ubuntu to work on it, on its own.
[07:34] <Sisyphus1> ...because I'm like that.
[07:34] <Sisyphus1> ...and I want Ubuntu to work on it SOOOOO bad.
[07:34] <Sisyphus1> ...seems like an advanced issue, really.
[07:34] <Sisyphus1> Any thoughts, guys'n'gals?
[08:53] <jalcine> Sisyphus1: hey
[08:54] <jalcine> so what drive is set to boot at start?
[08:57] <Sisyphus1> I suppose there isn't one.
[08:58] <Sisyphus1> I've been told the GRUB2 is the problem, and that it's not a driver problem.
[08:58] <jalcine> It potentially might be.
[08:58] <Sisyphus1> Not sure I believe that though, but if it's true, will this solve my probleM?
[08:58] <Sisyphus1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43C2qaYY8zE
[08:59] <jalcine> Have you tried installing an older version of grub onto the partition?
[08:59] <jalcine> you might have to install an older version of Ubuntu to do so
[08:59] <Sisyphus1> No, haven't tried that yet.
[09:00] <jalcine> please do :)
[09:02] <Sisyphus1> Well, in either case, looks like the best route is to use an alternative CD to do it.
[09:02] <jalcine> That's the best way to go about it.
[09:03] <Unit193> There are no alternates, except for the mini.
[09:03] <Unit193> !mini
[09:05] <Sisyphus1> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[09:06] <Unit193> Quantal and up don't, that is.  (I always disregard LTS releases)
[09:06] <Sisyphus1> ...so I can just use my Ubuntu-64 disk and boot from that, and do the same thing?
[14:52] <SpudULike> On 12.10.  What is the best GUI, way for me to add drive partitions so that they are mounted at boot time?
[16:11] <duanedesign> SpudULike: helo
[16:14] <duanedesign> I am not famiiliar with a GUI way to do this. You willl need to add the drive to your fsta file
[16:14] <duanedesign> fstab*
[16:16] <duanedesign> SpudULike: actually i just hear about pysdm
[16:16] <duanedesign> sudo apt-get install pysdm
[16:17] <duanedesign> before drocedding back up old file - sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old
[16:18] <duanedesign> SpudULike: for more see this pae http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/how-to-mount-partitions-automatically.html
[16:18] <duanedesign> obviously ignore the Fedora parts :)
[16:18] <duanedesign> hope that helps
[16:19] <Phryq> hey; I have a lumia 920 windows phone, and when I plug it into my ubuntu 12.10 laptop it's not being recognized by my computer
[16:31] <duanedesign> Phryq: what version android OS?
[16:34] <duanedesign> sorry probably not running android..habit
[16:34] <duanedesign> many users have reported being able to connect no problem...?
[16:34] <duanedesign> i am stumped
[16:34] <Phryq> not Android; Windows 8
[17:14] <SpudULike> hi duanedesign : oddly, I don't think there is a version of pysdm for 12.10.
[17:15] <duanedesign> :9
[17:15] <duanedesign> :(