[00:02] <ActionParsnip> ImLiz: we'll you'll need to upgrade one step at a time
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> ImLiz: if its a massive task for you, i'd do a clean install
[00:02] <zeth_> well emerald --replace is still not working
[00:02] <zeth_> I restarted as well .. still not working
[00:03] <zeth_> ActionParsnip: are there any other ways of getting it to work?
[00:04] <feijo> mates, I lost my connection again on my main machine!! :(
[00:04] <zeth_> btw this is the output of emerald --replace in the terminal:
[00:04] <zeth_> (emerald:9832): Gtk-WARNING **: libbonoboui-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:04] <feijo> last time sudo dhclient solved it for 20 min, now it dont work anymore... what else can I do
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> zeth_: its a common thing. do you run an nvidia?
[00:05] <zeth_> no Intel
[00:06] <ImLiz> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'm reading in on it now and see if I can handle it :)
[00:06] <zeth_> ActionParsnip: all Intel
[00:07] <feijo> with virtual machines I have internet, but not my main kubuntu 8
[00:08] <feijo> I have a router dlink wifi
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> zeth_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-514647.html
[00:11] <zeth_> ActionParsnip: thing is that my xorg.conf file is pratically empty
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> zeth_: it is in 8.10 but you need some options
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> zeth_: theres lines you can add to it to make it work
[00:13] <bobleny> Hi, does anyone know why every time I type in this command, "sudo echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches", I get a bash error of permision denied?
[00:13] <szrhawaii> does anyone know anything about virtual machines
[00:14] <szrhawaii> anyone know anything about vmware for linux
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> bobleny: whats the output of: file /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[00:14] <dr_willis> szrhawaii,   It works.. ? :)  it has wiki pages and docs.. and stuff
[00:14] <dr_willis> !vmware
[00:15] <dr_willis> I use virtualbox mainly these days
[00:15] <zeth_> ActionParsnip: do I have to restart X every time I edit xorg?
[00:15] <dr_willis> xorg.conf is ONLY read when X starts up.. so yes zeth_
[00:15] <bobleny> ActionParsnip: It says it's empty...
[00:16] <zeth_> ok
[00:16] <feijo> my machine dont navigate anymore, what can I check
[00:17] <dios_mio> does anyone else have problems with Konquerer on youtube.com?
[00:18] <bobleny> My system says it is useing 1.3 gigs of memory! I've got to do something...
[00:20] <bobleny> dios_mio: I've herd of lots of people having problems with youtube in general. Theire browser will crash after watching a bunch of videos... I have only herd of this for firefox as of yet though....
[00:21] <dios_mio> bobleny: I have the problem for Konquerer :(
[00:22] <bobleny> dios_mio: Thats odd, it must have something to do with youtube...
[00:22] <szrhawaii> is there a vmware for 8.04
[00:22] <cuznt> !vmware
[00:23] <feijo> szrhawaii: no, you need to download it from vmware.com
[00:23] <bobleny> ActionParsnip: does that mean there is nothing to drop in the drop_caches thing?
[00:24] <dios_mio> bobleny: p[robably some broken HTML.. because it says some script is freezing KHTML\
[00:24] <JediatNight> !ubottu vlc
[00:24] <JediatNight> !vlc
[00:24] <JediatNight> !codecs
[00:24] <bobleny> Could be...
[00:25] <bobleny> I'm going to restart my machine....
[00:26] <feijo> dr_willis: hey willis :)
[00:27] <szrhawaii> does anyone know what version i should download of vmware
[00:27] <szrhawaii> they have a 2.5 is that any good
[00:28] <cuznt> !vmware | szrhawaii
[00:28] <Black_Monkey> hi, I just installed 8.10, and when I first booted, after "GRUB loading, please wait..." I got Error 5, and now I'm getting Error 21
[00:28] <feijo> szrhawaii: thats your decision, I use 1.0.8
[00:29] <feijo> szrhawaii: when I install vmware on linux, I search on google for a forum that have all the steps
[00:29] <Black_Monkey> and it won't boot
[00:29] <zeth_> ok well ... whew I made it back
[00:29] <zeth_> after I added a couple lines to xorg.conf and logged out I never got back into X ...
[00:30] <zeth_> had to fix xorg in the terminal outside of KDE
[00:30] <feijo> ifconfig
[00:30] <szrhawaii> that one has the steps
[00:30] <szrhawaii> thanks
[00:31] <feijo> how can I check my gateway
[00:31] <feijo> sorry, I dont have question mark here on my vm
[00:31] <JediatNight> hi, i've installed libdvdcss2 and vlc can't play DVDs. can you suggest what's wrong?
[00:32] <mkquist> JediatNight: what happens when you try?
[00:33] <JediatNight> vlc opens the file and closes it instantly. I get a read error
[00:33] <JediatNight> I could play it in mplayer
[00:36] <JediatNight> mkquist: can you suggest what's wrong?
[00:36] <JediatNight> I have installled resticted-extras
[00:36] <JediatNight> restricted*
[00:37] <mkquist> not sure, but it seams to be common after a quick google..
[00:39] <JediatNight> I googled and found out how to install the necessary libraries ..
[00:39] <JediatNight> i guess i have to investigate to find out
[00:41] <JediatNight> its weird, my root password is changed
[00:41] <JediatNight> thanks mkquist for your help
[00:48] <szrhawaii> how do i sudo my web browser to download a bundle file in the sudo form
[00:50] <szrhawaii> can anyone help me figure this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player
[00:50] <szrhawaii> im trying to get the bundle to be in a sudo form but it keeps telling me its not
[00:51] <szrhawaii> how do i get the computer to be in admin mode
[00:51] <szrhawaii> what is the command in terminal
[00:52] <szrhawaii> or how do i run so all apps are in sudo form
[00:52] <Black_Monkey> hi, trying to run gparted on the live disc, and it's asking for a password - what's the default?
[00:55] <feijo> I cant think in what can cause my problem :( I lost internet connection
[01:03] <Guiri> Hi. I added openbox and now it's visible in my KDM sessions. Is there a way to edit the Openbox session so I can start feh with it to have a background
[01:05] <szrhawaii> anyone know where i can find linux-kernel-headers its not showing up on my manager
[01:09] <bouncy> join #usa
[01:17] <asobi> why am i unable to open url from pidgin
[01:21] <cuznt> asobi choose tools>preferences
[01:21] <cuznt> then choose brower tab
[01:21] <cuznt> and choose browser
[01:21] <asobi> for some reason firefox isn't listed
[01:22] <asobi> so trying to do manual...
[01:22] <szrhawaii_> does anyone know how to get the ppa for linux-headers-kernel 2.6.18
[01:22] <asobi> by the way, how do i upgrade to firefox 3 as opposed to beta 4?
[01:23] <cuznt> !klauncher
[01:25] <asobi> !firefox
[01:27] <szrhawaii_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player
[01:27] <szrhawaii_> anyone can help me find or locate the linux-kernel -headers  for this
[01:27] <szrhawaii_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player
[01:30] <administrador> hola a todos
[01:31] <|DS|> no habla espanol
[01:31] <Pici> !es
[01:31] <administrador> ok
[01:31] <szrhawaii_> !admin
[01:32] <szrhawaii_> !root
[01:32] <szrhawaii_> !administration
[01:33] <rogan> Can anyone help resolve my situation.. The person helping me left. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/307956 .. also to include is that if/when I try to add a widget my system freezes up and I will be forced to restart. This all started a bit earlier today when I upgraded from the latest version to kde4.2 beta 1
[01:34] <|DS|> can you revert back to kde 4?
[01:34] <|DS|> seems thats the best thing to do :/
[01:34] <rogan> I tried sudo apt get install kubuntu desktop but it didnt revert lol
[01:35] <rogan> it just reinstalled kde4.2
[01:42] <achenty> hi
[01:42] <administrador> hi
[01:42] <achenty> do you know how to install my video card driver? -_-
[01:53] <|DS|> does anyone know much about kstartupconfig?
[01:53] <|DS|> I'm reading some topics here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/susenovell-60/error-could-not-start-kstartupconfig.-328302/
[01:53] <|DS|> about it but they don't seem to help any.
[01:57] <DasKreech> rogan: Know how to get to a virtual terminal?
[01:57] <rogan> DasKreech no
[01:58] <DasKreech> rogan: ok don't do anything till I say
[01:58] <DasKreech> rogan: alt+Ctrl+F1 will take you to a terminal environment You can log in there and do what you like
[01:58] <DasKreech> So will alt+ctrl+F2
[01:58] <rogan> DasKreech yeah
[01:58] <DasKreech> F3 F4 F5 Etc
[01:58] <DasKreech> F7 will get you back to the GUI
[02:00] <rogan> DasKreech yea
[02:00] <DasKreech> rogan: Ok jump to a virutal terminal and login then sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5
[02:01] <rogan> DasKreech ok
[02:02] <DasKreech> rogan: Do you know how to log into IRC without a GUI ?
[02:02] <rogan> DasKreech yes
[02:03] <dr_willis> Irssi is a good text based irc client
[02:03] <rogan> i have it :)
[02:03] <DasKreech> rogan: Ok you can login to IRC from terminal 2 (Alt+ctrl+F2)
[02:04] <tripler> :)
[02:04] <rogan> ok
[02:04] <DasKreech> hi rogan :)
[02:05] <DasKreech> remove kdelibs5 and it should dump all of KDE
[02:05] <rogan> DasKreech In progress
[02:05] <bazhang> !puregnome
[02:06] <feijo> hi DasKreech, guess what, my connection stoped again! worked for like 15 min :( I cant belive it. dhclient dont work anymore
[02:06] <DasKreech> Ha ha I was trying to figure out who the heck tripler_ was
[02:06] <DasKreech> feijo: Thought so
[02:06] <feijo> realy
[02:06] <feijo> why//
[02:06] <DasKreech> You have someone else on the network giving out IP addresses
[02:06] <feijo> hmmm
[02:06] <DasKreech> perhaps two more from the sound of it
[02:06] <feijo> but the same ip/
[02:07] <DasKreech> feijo: Two on the same IP block one on something totally different
[02:07] <rogan> DasKreech prompted.. stop the kdm daemon ?
[02:07] <DasKreech> Find out who else is on your network and who has dhcp-server installed
[02:07] <feijo> DasKreech: something I have installed recently/
[02:07] <DasKreech> rogan: Yes that will kill your GUI
[02:07] <DasKreech> feijo: I don't know but you have some rogue server on your network
[02:07] <DasKreech> Bye bye tripler_
[02:07] <rogan> DasKreech done..
[02:08] <feijo> DasKreech: how can I search what *server I have installed/ apt-cache/
[02:09] <DasKreech> feijo: I forget dpkg --installed-packages | grep dhcp or something like that
[02:10] <DasKreech> rogan: mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_beta
[02:11] <rogan> DasKreech done..
[02:11] <szrhawaii_admin> !vmware
[02:11] <DasKreech> rogan: ok tha should remove all packages and clear your settings for the most part
[02:11] <DasKreech>  there are some in ~/.local but I'll let those slide
[02:11] <feijo> just dhcp3-client and dhcp3-common
[02:11] <DasKreech> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:12] <DasKreech> feijo: Yes On your main machine
[02:12] <rogan> DasKreech installing.....
[02:12] <feijo> its my home, I have just my machine and my wife eeepc
[02:12] <DasKreech> feijo: When you ran dhclient before it gave you some strange IP address that worked so I'd think that it's two different routers some how
[02:13] <DasKreech> Are you connecting over a wired connection or a wireless ?
[02:13] <feijo> wired
[02:13] <feijo> but how when I use livecd all works:
[02:13] <rogan> DasKreech done..
[02:13] <[Relic]> anything other than adobe for flash that I can run in FF3?
[02:14] <DasKreech> feijo: And keeps on working?
[02:15] <szrhawaii_admin> does anyone know the command to run the whole enviornment as a root
[02:15] <DasKreech> [Relic]: huh?
[02:15] <DasKreech> szrhawaii_admin: Don't run desktop environements as root
[02:15] <feijo> yeah, I used for over 2 hours last night
[02:15] <DasKreech> in general don't run GUI anything as root
[02:15] <DasKreech> feijo: Well then maybe it's your virtual machines
[02:15] <[Relic]> hainve problems with falsh on a specific site I was wondering if there was something that could try as an alternate to adobes flash to see if it runs with that
[02:15] <DasKreech> No can't be they are below your computer on the network level
[02:15] <feijo> DasKreech: I started those today, to investigate
[02:16] <szrhawaii_admin> Daskreech do you know the command in terminal to run as admin or so everything runs as a root
[02:16] <feijo> DasKreech: clean windows 2000 and clean kubuntu
[02:16] <DasKreech> [Relic]: oh Umm what browser are you using?
[02:16] <feijo> fresh
[02:16] <DasKreech> szrhawaii_admin: You do not want to run everything as root
[02:16] <DasKreech> feijo: and they work fine ?
[02:16] <rogan> DasKreech ..standing by
[02:16] <feijo> DasKreech: non stop
[02:17] <szrhawaii_admin> ok how do i download a bundle file so it downloads without saying saving this file will cause a corrupt file
[02:17] <feijo> DasKreech: its something local on my main comp
[02:17] <[Relic]> firefox 3
[02:17] <DasKreech> feijo: Sounds like you have some strange setting then when did this start?
[02:17] <feijo> 3 nights ago
[02:17] <DasKreech> [Relic]: Which site?
[02:17] <szrhawaii_admin> daskreech - ok how do i download a bundle file so it downloads without saying saving this file will cause a corrupt file
[02:17] <DasKreech> szrhawaii_admin: what are you using to save it now?
[02:18] <szrhawaii_admin> kate
[02:18] <DasKreech> Oh dear.. try kget
[02:18] <szrhawaii_admin> kget
[02:18] <DasKreech> or wget if you want to use that
[02:18] <szrhawaii_admin> should i ditch kate
[02:19] <|DS|> Does anyone know about kstartupconfig: error: couldn't start
[02:19] <DasKreech> szrhawaii_admin: No that's the servers fault they have a binary bundle listed as a text file so KDE gives it to kate to open which of course is not built to download files
[02:20] <rogan> DasKreech now what
[02:20] <DasKreech> rogan: All done?
[02:20] <rogan> DaskReech ya
[02:20] <DasKreech> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[02:20] <[Relic]> DasKreech, it doesn't work in konquer either,   www.duels.com, their latest updates to the flash components have made them not work anymore
[02:20] <feijo> DasKreech: and I will travel tomorrow for 3 days, my wife will be unable to use this machine lol
[02:21] <DasKreech> [Relic]: The Linux Flash is normally a little behind the windows version if someone depends on the latest Windows version for the site then it may take a month or two for Linux clients to be able to see it
[02:21] <DasKreech> feijo: Can she use a Live CD :-D
[02:22] <feijo> hahahah no way, she cant use windows properly
[02:22] <[Relic]> DasKreech, that is what I am thinking
[02:22] <rogan> DaskReech Command not found
[02:22] <szrhawaii_admin> now what do i do after i get kget daskreech
[02:22] <DasKreech> Oh well what's she using the computer for?
[02:23] <[Relic]> DasKreech, is there a way to get even more up to date flash or is the current package the latest
[02:23] <szrhawaii_admin> i enabled it through terminal
[02:23] <DasKreech> rogan: sudo /etc/init.d/kd<tab><tab> Tell mewhat options you have
[02:23] <DasKreech> szrhawaii_admin: Give it the URL that you want to download
[02:23] <szrhawaii_admin> how do i do that
[02:24] <szrhawaii_admin> it says kget is running
[02:24] <DasKreech> [Relic]: as far as I know it's the latest but you can go to the Adobe flash site to see for yourself
[02:24] <szrhawaii_admin> but theres no window management or anything
[02:24] <DasKreech> szrhawaii_admin: You should have a little icon in the systray then
[02:24] <rogan> DaskReech I get nothing
[02:24] <DasKreech> rogan: ooooh
[02:24] <zeth_> anyone able to get emerald working in kubuntu?
[02:25] <szrhawaii_admin> yeah it says mailformed url now
[02:25] <DasKreech> rogan:  try sudo apt-get install kdm
[02:25] <szrhawaii_admin> ohh nevermind looking at wrong place
[02:25] <rogan> DaskReech KDM is already the newest version
[02:25] <szrhawaii_admin> daskreech ok i see the window now
[02:26] <szrhawaii_admin> where do i put the url at
[02:26] <DasKreech> rogan: ls /etc/init.d/*dm
[02:26] <DasKreech> szrhawaii_admin: new ?
[02:26] <szrhawaii_admin> doesnt say new
[02:26] <rogan> /ect/init.d/kdm
[02:27] <DasKreech> szrhawaii_admin: in Konqueror under tools there is an option Download managment -> Show drop target
[02:27] <DasKreech> rogan: etc :)
[02:27] <|DS|> Does anyone know about kstartupconfig: error: couldn't start
[02:27] <DasKreech> rogan: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[02:27] <szrhawaii_admin> hold on let me switch users
[02:27] <rogan> DaskReech rofl damnit
[02:29] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: should have a new download button
[02:29] <rogan> DasKreech
[02:29] <rogan> DasKreech lol
[02:32] <zeth_> does anyone knwo what this error means: /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'emerald'
[02:32] <szrhawaii> ok daskreech i see the kget feature on konqueror
[02:32] <rogan> DasKreech it worked
[02:32] <rogan> DasKreech !!
[02:32] <szrhawaii> now what
[02:32] <BluesKaj> zeth , install emerald
[02:33] <zeth_> BluesKaj: its already installed
[02:34] <szrhawaii> nevermind i figured it out
[02:34] <szrhawaii> thanks daskreech
[02:35] <zeth_> does compiz have to be installed for emerald to work?
[02:35] <szrhawaii> yep zeth
[02:35] <szrhawaii> nah not really
[02:35] <zeth_> but isn't it already installed in Kubuntu 8.10?
[02:35] <szrhawaii> yeah
[02:35] <zeth_> hmm
[02:36] <szrhawaii> just gotta turn it on
[02:36] <szrhawaii> or no go
[02:36] <zeth_> how?
[02:36] <szrhawaii> but you should just download fusion
[02:36] <DasKreech> zeth_: yes
[02:36] <zeth_> in Adept is says that compiz is not installed
[02:37] <zeth_> but there is a bunch of compiz related stuff that is installed
[02:37] <BluesKaj> zeth_, opencompiz is installed by default in gnome not kde
[02:37] <szrhawaii> get fusion
[02:37] <zeth_> hmm
[02:37] <DasKreech> BluesKaj: Opencompiz?
[02:37] <zeth_> fusion-icon?
[02:37] <BluesKaj> just compiz
[02:37] <zeth_> should I install the compiz package?
[02:37] <szrhawaii> and its kmenu>system>desktop effects to turn on compiz
[02:37] <BluesKaj> yes
[02:37] <zeth_> its just called "compiz" in Adept
[02:38] <szrhawaii> do the fusion icon
[02:38] <DasKreech> BluesKaj: there is a closed compiz I missed ?
[02:38] <feijo> DasKreech: but why dsclient dont work for a few minutes anymore//
[02:38] <DasKreech> feijo: What IP address did you get ?
[02:38] <szrhawaii> i like that cause it gives you the option to switch between window managers from there easily
[02:38] <zeth_> ok fusion-icon, compiz and what about compiz-kde?
[02:38] <szrhawaii> yeah
[02:38] <DasKreech> That's a lot of work to get a trimming :)
[02:39] <BluesKaj> no  DasKreech , that was my mistake , I meant to say something else but forgot to delete it
[02:39] <zeth_> yeah?
[02:39] <szrhawaii> when you add fusion icon it should add what you need
[02:39] <DasKreech> BluesKaj: ok :-) Interesting mistake
[02:39] <feijo> DasKreech: always <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:39] <szrhawaii> but you have to go to kmenu>system>desktop effects first to turn on the basic compiz settings
[02:39] <feijo> oh, you mean with dsclient
[02:39] <zeth_> do I need compizconfig-backend-kconfig?
[02:40] <BluesKaj> DasKreech, I was going to tell him to open compiz
[02:40] <szrhawaii> yeah why not
[02:40] <DasKreech> sudo dhclient
[02:40] <zeth_> szrhawaii: thats always been activated
[02:40] <szrhawaii> when you get more involved you see what all that does
[02:40] <feijo> <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:40] <szrhawaii> when you go to the kmenu>system>desktop effects you should put it to the custom effects
[02:40] <DasKreech> feijo: Works ?
[02:41] <feijo> no
[02:41] <zeth_> szrhawaii: ok
[02:41] <DasKreech> feijo: What's your gateway ?
[02:41] <feijo> what comand to check// I know only with knetworkmanager
[02:41] <DasKreech> route
[02:41] <DasKreech> it should say the routes you have and one marked default
[02:42] <szrhawaii> youll like compiz fusion better anyways it does more stuff then the regular compiz
[02:42] <feijo> to eth0 is <IP_ADDRESS>, to vmnet8 is <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:42] <feijo> I have 2 defaults !
[02:43] <feijo> vmnet8 as default too, thats the problem//
[02:43] <feijo> I update vmware thursday
[02:44] <DasKreech> feijo: that might be it
[02:44] <feijo> how to make it have just 1 default/
[02:45] <DasKreech> feijo: Umm I would just type in sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:46] <feijo> DasKreech: I just try it, it says that this file already exists
[02:46] <feijo> SIOCADDRT
[02:47] <DasKreech> Ah hmm
[02:47] <DasKreech> well try sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:48] <feijo> no change
[02:48] <feijo> maybe remove with route/
[02:49] <DasKreech> what's ifconfig say
[02:49] <DasKreech> pastebin it
[02:49] <feijo> that last ifconfig command or just plain ifconfig/
[02:50] <DasKreech> plain ifconfig
[02:51] <feijo> http://pastebin.com/d681aa889
[02:53] <DasKreech> feijo: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[02:54] <feijo> yes, it open my router page
[02:55] <DasKreech> :-)
[02:55] <DasKreech> Progress!!
[02:55] <DasKreech> How many people are in your routers Client list?
[02:55] <feijo> :)
[02:55] <feijo> using/ none, my wife note isnt on
[02:56] <DasKreech> Hmm
[02:56] <DasKreech> ok
[02:56] <DasKreech> can you browse else where?
[02:57] <feijo> my router dhcp client list have my machine, this VM and the win VM
[02:58] <Adola> AmaroK just deleted all my music tags.
[02:59] <jk_> i just got this and its rally nice..
[03:00] <zeth_> I keep having this silly issue with Adept ... it keeps telling me that it cannot download the packages as if the internet was not there .... but its connected and online and I can refresh the sources just fine
[03:00] <zeth_> and then I wait a little or restart Adept and it works again
[03:00] <DasKreech> zeth_: submit a bug please
[03:01] <Black_Monkey> hi, I just updated to 8.10, and it's ridiculously slow and unresponsive... is this a known issue?
[03:01] <Walzmyn> Where's the user GUI tools in 4.1?
[03:04] <|DS|> what file system should I use for kubuntu
[03:04] <|DS|> I'm installing it =right now
[03:04] <|DS|> :)
[03:04] <radlipat> none will answer me in xubuntu can someone here help me with xubuntu???
[03:04] <Walzmyn> ext3 is the usual one |DS|
[03:04] <|DS|> I'm thinking ext3
[03:04] <radlipat> i lost my taskbas
[03:04] <radlipat> taskbars*
[03:04] <|DS|> ah ok thankd walzmyn
[03:04] <|DS|> walzmyn: what mount point then...
[03:05] <Walzmyn> |DS|, How many partitions are you making?
[03:05] <|DS|> radlipat: it sounds like a windowsmanager problem
[03:05] <Walzmyn> radlipat, not having run XFCE all I can suggest is to reboot
[03:05] <|DS|> walzmyn:2 eventually, one windows and one kubuntu buit I only have kubuntu right now
[03:05] <radlipat> im not on windows im on xubuntu
[03:05] <Walzmyn> radlipat, or at least restart X
[03:06] <radlipat> idk term
[03:06] <radlipat> i tried
[03:06] <radlipat> it didnt work
[03:06] <|DS|> radlipat, a windowsmanager is what MAKES yoiur desktop look like it does
[03:06] <|DS|> radlipat, not the OS
[03:06] <radlipat> ok
[03:06] <Walzmyn> |DS|, if you'r just using one partiiton for Linux, it should be mounted at / (root)
[03:06] <radlipat> soooo what do i do???
[03:07] <|DS|> ah thank you! :)
[03:07] <|DS|> try using kwin
[03:07] <|DS|> or compiz
[03:07] <|DS|> idk :/
[03:07] <Walzmyn> |DS|, most folks make two, / for the operateing system and /home for, well, /home
[03:07] <radlipat> where would i find these?
[03:07] <tboxmy> anyone uses canon pwershot with intrepid?
[03:07] <DasKreech> feijo: And you can't browse?
[03:08] <DasKreech> Black_Monkey: What driver are you using for your video card?
[03:08] <|DS|> thank you walzmyn
[03:08] <DasKreech> radlipat: What are you trying to get?
[03:09] <radlipat> my task bars for xubuntu disappeared
[03:09] <Black_Monkey> DasKreech: I used restricted drivers to install the newest nvidia one
[03:09] <radlipat> and none is on in xubuntu chat
[03:09] <Walzmyn> Black_Monkey, you don't have all the desktop effects and what not enabled do you?
[03:10] <Black_Monkey> Walzmyn: I've tried with and without. But I had effects enabled in 8.04 with no problem
[03:10] <feijo> DasKreech: browse sites or the other machines//
[03:11] <DasKreech> feijo: sites
[03:11] <DasKreech> radlipat: Right click and add panel ?
[03:11] <|DS|> walzmyn: could you also help me with installing a nvidia geforce 9600 GT graphics card?
[03:11] <|DS|> I'm at 28% in the installation
[03:11] <DasKreech> Black_Monkey: Nvidia drivers have (or had) a bug that slowed down 2d Drawing pretty badly
[03:11] <Walzmyn> |DS|, Once you get installed, it's really easy
[03:12] <|DS|> I understand but easy for you might be so hard for me even when it's sitting right infront of me >_<
[03:12] <Black_Monkey> DasKreech: ah ok, is there a fix?
[03:12] <feijo> DasKreech: nothing
[03:12] <|DS|> 35%
[03:12] <Soliloquial> what's a good photo manager for kubuntu
[03:12] <|DS|> gimp
[03:12] <|DS|> :P
[03:12] <Soliloquial> not editor
[03:12] <Soliloquial> manager
[03:12] <|DS|> heh
[03:12] <|DS|> k
[03:12] <Soliloquial> like iphoto or picasa
[03:12] <|DS|> picasa is Really nice
[03:13] <|DS|> I wouldn't know now but I bet I could find out...
[03:13] <radlipat> idk
[03:13] <|DS|> I want to say vagalume?
[03:13] <|DS|> heh
[03:13] <|DS|> oh, nvm getting my names mized up
[03:13] <Walzmyn> digikam
[03:14] <Walzmyn> Soliloquial, check out digikam, I think it might even come with the base instalation
[03:14] <|DS|> 54%
[03:14] <|DS|> also, look fro these in the package manager, not google :/
[03:15] <zeth_> ok I think I am getting closer to getting compiz really working here ...
[03:15] <zeth_> now how do I install the "Compiz engine"?
[03:16] <Walzmyn> zeth_, look in adept for compiz and install the meta package for it
[03:17] <zeth_> Walzmyn: I already installed compiz
[03:17] <\Kira> dpkg tells me that its missing packages needed to install a program, how can I tell it to get them? I think im missing something on the man pages...
[03:17] <jasminpc> does anyoene know how to lunch vmware workstation.
[03:17] <BluesKaj> zeth , do you have adept or synaptic ...use one to install compiz
[03:17] <zeth_> Walzmyn: do I need compiz-kde?
[03:17] <Dretch> also:
[03:17] <Dretch> and a compiz icon is nice
[03:18] <Dretch> yes
[03:18] <Walzmyn> zeth_, you on 8.10 or 8.04?
[03:18] <zeth_> already have fusion-icon
[03:18] <zeth_> 8.10
[03:18] <Dretch> you are running kde if you ahve kubuntu
[03:18] <Dretch> k
[03:18] <zeth_> but compiz-kde will not install
[03:18] <Dretch> 60%
[03:18] <zeth_> dependancy issues
[03:18] <jasminpc> does anyoene know how to lunch vmware workstation.
[03:18] <Dretch> nope, sorry :(
[03:18] <Dretch> I don't know how to lunch anything really
[03:19] <Dretch> I can eat it but other then that, not really :/
[03:19] <zeth_> I tried installing compiz-kde and it said it needed libplasma2
[03:19] <zeth_> but libplasma2 would not install either
[03:20] <zeth_> for similar reasons
[03:20] <Dretch> 66%
[03:20] <JontheEchidna> zeth_: what version of kde are you running?
[03:20] <zeth_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:20] <zeth_>   libplasma2: Depends: kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 but it is not going to be installed
[03:20] <zeth_>               Depends: kdebase-workspace-data (= 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid1) but 4:4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1 is to be installed
[03:20] <zeth_> I am running KDE 4.2
[03:20] <zeth_> :)
[03:21] <JontheEchidna> ah
[03:21] <JontheEchidna> you will have to wait until compiz updates for KDE 4.2 support
[03:21] <zeth_> oh ... ?
[03:21] <zeth_> shame ...
[03:21] <Dretch> 69%
[03:21] <zeth_> but I thought I was running compiz already
[03:22] <zeth_> I mean I got emerald to work ...
[03:22] <zeth_> so how is that ?
[03:22] <JontheEchidna> the compiz-kde integration package, rather
[03:22] <Dretch> 70%
[03:22] <JontheEchidna> you won't be able to use those features until they update for KDE 4.2
[03:22] <DasKreech> Black_Monkey: New drivers I think the new beta drivers fix it
[03:22] <zeth_> so is the compiz-kde package the "Compiz engine"?
[03:23] <DasKreech> Soliloquial: digikam
[03:23] <thiago_> yo
[03:23] <thiago_> hows everyone doin
[03:23] <thiago_> how do i install frostwire?
[03:23] <Dretch> good thank you.
[03:23] <JontheEchidna> compiz-kde contains the kde-window-decorator which mimics your kde window decorations
[03:23] <JontheEchidna> and apparently some form of plasmoid too
[03:23] <zeth_> ok ... but what is the "compiz engine"? ...
[03:23] <Black_Monkey> DasKreech: ok thanks :-)
[03:23] <tboxmy> I have installed digikam but can detect camera as PTP
[03:24] <DasKreech> !frostwire
[03:24] <zeth_> that is what Compiz Manager is asking for
[03:24] <tboxmy> but still does work.
[03:24] <tboxmy> anyone have similiar problem?
[03:24] <JontheEchidna> zeth_: I would assume that would be the main compiz package
[03:24] <DasKreech> Black_Monkey: try turn on desktop effects and see if that helps
[03:24] <Dretch> 74%
[03:25] <Black_Monkey> DasKreech: they're on at the moment
[03:25] <DasKreech> ah well try turn them off :)
[03:25] <thiago_> hey, so how do i go about installing programs such as frostwire and google earth in kubuntu
[03:25] <thiago_> because they dont come in adept
[03:25] <DasKreech>  I forget how it works with that bug
[03:25] <thiago_> im pretty new to linux
[03:25] <Black_Monkey> DasKreech: tried that, no difference
[03:25] <DasKreech> thiago_: Really?
[03:25] <DasKreech> thiago_: Funny :0
[03:25] <Black_Monkey> it's stuff like apps taking ages to load
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> !info frostwire
[03:25] <zeth_> JontheEchidna: ok ... cause when I go into Compiz Desktop Effects manager it says: In order for Compiz Desktop to work the Compiz engine must be installed on your system.
[03:26] <DasKreech> thiago_: frostwire is on the frostwire site. Go to it and it will give you the right package
[03:26] <DasKreech> !googleearth
[03:26] <thiago_> ya i know
[03:26] <thiago_> i donwload both packages from both websites
[03:26] <DasKreech> thiago_:
[03:26] <thiago_> but they are a .deb and a .bin
[03:26] <JontheEchidna> zeth_: can't help ya there, I haven't used compiz since the gutsy days or maybe the early hardy days
[03:26] <thiago_> i dont know how to manage such files
[03:26] <thiago_> sorry im very new to linux
[03:26] <DasKreech> then sudo dpkg -i the .deb
[03:26] <zeth_> ok thanks anyhow
[03:26] <DasKreech> Black_Monkey: Ugh. There are tricks that you can use to bypass that
[03:26] <thiago_> what about .bin files?
[03:27] <thiago_> nao
[03:27] <JontheEchidna> good luck anyways :)
[03:27] <DasKreech> Black_Monkey: in the xorg.conf but again not sure what they are check the forums.kde.org
[03:27] <Black_Monkey> DasKreech: ok, thanks
[03:27] <DasKreech> thiago_: One at a time get frostwire installed
[03:27] <thiago_> ya i did what you told me before
[03:27] <thiago_> and what happens is
[03:27] <thiago_> it installs
[03:27] <thiago_> but as soon as i run it
[03:27] <thiago_> it doesnt open
[03:28] <thiago_> just shows thats its loading
[03:28] <thiago_> then it closes
[03:29] <DasKreech> thiago_: ah what java do you have?
[03:29] <Adola> Hey, how do you reinstall "AmaroK-kde4?"
[03:29] <Adola> What do I type in Terminal?
[03:29] <DasKreech> Adola: amarok 2 ?
[03:29] <thiago_> i guess thats the problem.. how do i go to install java? :)
[03:29] <Adola> daskreech : Yes.
[03:29] <DasKreech> the instructions are on http://kubuntu.org
[03:29] <DasKreech> !java
[03:29] <Adola> For reinstall?
[03:29] <Adola> I allready have it.  I just want to install it.
[03:29] <DasKreech> Adola: --reinstall
[03:31] <Adola> sudo --reinstall amarok-kde4
[03:31] <DasKreech> apt-get install --reinstall amarok-kde4
[03:32] <Adola> Thanks.
[03:34] <thiago_> DasKreech: i cant enable the universe repository like it says on the tutorial
[03:34] <Adola> Um...
[03:35] <Adola> How Do I reinstall AmaroK 2 with freshsettings?!  I reinstalled it.  But, it still has the same settings that I had on it before.
[03:35] <Dragnslcr> Think it's --purge to remove all config files
[03:36] <Adola> Nvermind.  Someone in AmaroK helped me.
[03:36] <Adola> Thanks anyawy!
[03:37] <Adola> Who is "Jasminpc"?
[03:40] <thiago_> DasKreech?
[03:42] <DasKreech> thiago_: Did you read the page ?
[03:42] <thiago_> yup
[03:42] <thiago_> i cant seem to be able to find this universe repository in adept
[03:42] <thiago_> nothing comes up
[03:43] <DasKreech> thiago_: ha ha Ok you are in KDE4 right ?
[03:46] <thiago_> yup
[03:46] <thiago_> latest kubuntu
[03:46] <thiago_> 8.10 im guessing
[03:48] <thiago_> ?
[03:48] <thiago_> i tried through www.java.com intrusctions
[03:48] <thiago_> but i dont think i was succesfukk
[03:48] <thiago_> since frostwire still doesnt start
[03:49] <pj> Any good recomendation on a instant messenger?
[03:50] <thiago_> kubuntu?
[03:50] <thiago_> kopete is nice
[03:50] <DasKreech> thiago_: in adept you have a sources button on the left ?
[03:50] <DasKreech> !im
[03:51] <thiago_> yes
[03:51] <DasKreech> thiago_: When you click on that you get a edit sources button?
[03:52] <thiago_> yes
[03:53] <DasKreech> When you click on that you get a dialog box ?
[03:53] <thiago_> yes
[03:54] <DasKreech> with a set of buttons?
[03:54] <DasKreech> which ones are selected ?
[03:54] <DasKreech> Checkboxes rather
[03:55] <szrhawaii> Dakreech what is it whn vmware asks for an appliance
[03:55] <thiago_> the first 4 ones
[03:55] <thiago_> main, universe, restricted and multiverse
[03:55] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: Umm not sure what did you do for it ask that?
[03:55] <DasKreech> thiago_: Ok You are set then install java6-jre
[03:56] <thiago_> from adept?
[03:56] <szrhawaii> i ran vmware then it said download appliance or open existing
[03:56] <szrhawaii> but i havent made an existing one yet
[03:57] <szrhawaii> how do i go about making a vmware file to run an application i want
[04:02] <gkffjck> is there a way to configure konversation to auto identify me when I connect to a specific irc server?
[04:03] <DasKreech> thiago_: yep
[04:03] <DasKreech> gkffjck: yes
[04:04] <Adola> Anyone know anything about Picard?
[04:05] <DasKreech> Adola: Can I assume you don't mean JunLuc?
[04:05] <DasKreech> Jean
[04:06] <Adola> Never heard of that.
[04:06] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: Ah those are premade files you download
[04:06] <Adola> I'm talking about "MusicBrainz' Picard.
[04:06] <DasKreech> Adola: Yeah thats what I thought I know a little bit about it
[04:06] <Adola> Daskreech: Do you know about fetching cover art with it?
[04:06] <DasKreech> Umm No it's a fingerprinter
[04:07] <Adola> I've installed the coverart plugin..But..I can't seem to make it work.
[04:07] <DasKreech> You can use the results from that to poll amazon.com which allows everyone to use it's art
[04:07] <thiago_> daskreech: im install sunjava6-jre
[04:07] <thiago_> around 35 mbs
[04:07] <thiago_> lets see how it goes
[04:07] <szrhawaii> where do i get the workstation files to create my own
[04:07] <DasKreech> thiago_: yeah a bit chunky
[04:07] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: vmware site I don't think those are free
[04:07] <szrhawaii> its called Vmware-workstation-6.5.0-118166.i386.bundle
[04:08] <szrhawaii> thats the file im looking for but people have different variations
[04:08] <szrhawaii> does kubuntu have one for 8.04 or the one for 8.10 is the only one
[04:11] <thiago_> daskreech
[04:11] <thiago_> i love you
[04:16] <szrhawaii_> do i need the workstation version
[04:17] <rogan> whats the name of the camera utility?
[04:19] <Dolo> anyone here know what Gatecrasher is?
[04:20] <Soliloquial> why are the torrents so awesome for ubuntu?
[04:21] <DasKreech> rogan: digikam
[04:21] <DasKreech> thiago_: got Google earth working?
[04:21] <DasKreech> Soliloquial: Thousands of people seeding perhaps?
[04:21] <Soliloquial> google earth flickers for me like crazy
[04:21] <Soliloquial> yeah
[04:21] <Dolo> i keep getting a name on my firewall called gate crasher
[04:21] <rogan> DasKreech thx it got removed in the upgrade
[04:21] <Soliloquial> it downloads at ~1.8 MB/s on my connection
[04:23] <thiago_> i love you
[04:23] <thiago_> nop
[04:23] <thiago_> i didnt mean to write that
[04:23] <thiago_> daskreech google earth is not on adept
[04:23] <thiago_> so how do i do that
[04:25] <szrhawaii_> !vmware
[04:25] <DasKreech> thiago_: Yu said you downloaded it
[04:26] <thiago_> i donwloaded the .bin file
[04:26] <thiago_> from google earth's website
[04:27] <DasKreech> thiago_: Right
[04:27] <DasKreech> sh filename.bin
[04:28] <Soliloquial> google earth just flickers for me most of the time -_-
[04:29] <Soliloquial> I have no use for it anyway
[04:29] <DasKreech> marble :-)
[04:30] <thiago_> type that on console?
[04:31] <szrhawaii_> k
[04:31] <DasKreech> thiago_: It's a Small google earth type application
[04:32] <DasKreech> thiago_: sh googleearth.bin
[04:32] <thiago_> do i type that on konsole?
[04:33] <DasKreech> thiago_: yes
[04:33] <thiago_> aight
[04:33] <DasKreech> but with the path to the googleearth.bin
[04:34] <JediatNight> Hi all
[04:34] <DasKreech> hi
[04:34] <JediatNight> i cant play DVDs in VLC . can anyone help?
[04:34] <JediatNight> I've installed libdvdcss2
[04:36] <thiago_> i got it daskreech
[04:36] <thiago_> just a question
[04:36] <JediatNight> Hi DasKreech
[04:36] <DasKreech> VLC should be able to play them regardless
[04:36] <thiago_> it asks mne for an install path (directory)
[04:37] <thiago_> where is most things generally installed
[04:37] <ImLiz> hello room, I have a problem, in my /home/owner folder many folders have appeared and I don't know how. They all have a "."  Shall i post the log here?
[04:37] <DasKreech> thiago_: /usr/bin
[04:38] <thiago_> ok
[04:38] <thiago_> thanks
[04:38] <JediatNight> Intesting.it cant open the dvd menus but can play the dvd , the movie
[04:39] <szrhawaii_> hey daskreech im am trying to download a bundle file again but when i download it its coming up as a different file name instead of the bundle name
[04:39] <szrhawaii_> what should i do
[04:39] <szrhawaii_> this is to get the workstation
[04:40] <JediatNight> DasKreech: My root passwor is reset to something else
[04:41] <DasKreech> ImLiz: You enabled hidden files press alt+.
[04:41] <DasKreech> szrhawaii_: What bundle file?
[04:42] <szrhawaii_> 6.5.0-118166.i386.bundle
[04:42] <DasKreech> JediatNight: There is no root in kubuntu did you make your own root ?
[04:42] <szrhawaii_> do you know where to get that bundle file at
[04:42] <szrhawaii_> 6.5.0-118166.i386.bundle
[04:42] <DasKreech> szrhawaii_: What name does it come with when you download it?
[04:42] <ImLiz> DasKreech: Thank you :)
[04:42] <JediatNight> DasKreech: I type Su and it doesn't accept the root password
[04:43] <JediatNight> I'm new to kubuntu  . ive been using other distros for a while
[04:43] <DasKreech> !root
[04:43] <DasKreech> Read that :)
[04:43] <JediatNight> hehe . very funny
[04:43] <szrhawaii_> it says its coming in as a rpm file
[04:44] <szrhawaii_> it says download.do.part
[04:44] <DasKreech> szrhawaii_: It may be one. it has a .rpm on the end ?
[04:44] <ImLiz> Does resizing a partition actually damage files? or is it ok if both still have free space?
[04:44] <szrhawaii_> no it just says part at the end but my icon says rpm file
[04:44] <DasKreech> szrhawaii_: That's normal it's in the process of being downloaded it will remoove the .part when it's done
[04:44] <szrhawaii_> ok
[04:44] <DasKreech> ImLiz: Depends on waht is doing the resizing
[04:45] <ImLiz> DasKreech: Does one ever know??
[04:45] <szrhawaii_> i dont have a download time on that file for saying its still downloading
[04:45] <szrhawaii_> but my otherone does
[04:46] <DasKreech> ImLiz: hopefully you would know what program you are using if you are resizing a partition :)
[04:46] <ImLiz> ohhh sorry... if I use qparted???
[04:46] <DasKreech> ImLiz: Should be fine  but remember that qtparted hasn't been updated in quite a while
[04:46] <szrhawaii_> nevermind i see it on my thing
[04:48] <ImLiz> DasKreech: ok thanks, only one I know, trying to create more space to upgrade kubuntu
[04:50] <DasKreech> ImLiz: did you try sudo apt-get autoclean  ?
[04:51] <DasKreech> ImLiz: better sudo apt-get clean
[04:51] <thiago_> where are applications/packages installed?
[04:52] <ImLiz> DasKreech: I shall do that right now
[04:53] <ImLiz> so I did, was anything suppose to happen??? lol
[04:54] <szrhawaii_> which applications thiago
[04:55] <DasKreech> ImLiz: check how much spaev free now
[04:55] <DasKreech> space you have free
[04:56] <thiago_> ??
[04:57] <ImLiz> DasKreech: thanks for the info
[05:00] <snarkster> any sort of updates yet?
[05:00] <snarkster> amarok still not working in kde, but works great in XFCE
[05:01] <snarkster> it keeps telling me that dbus time out has occured
[05:01] <DasKreech> maybe your dbus server doesn't start in KDE?
[05:01] <thiago_> hey where are packages/applications downloaded by adept installed?
[05:02] <snarkster> that may be how do i start it?
[05:06] <DasKreech> thiago_: Wherever theys should be installed
[05:07] <szrhawaii_> daskreech that file is done downloading and now says downloadbinary.do
[05:07] <snarkster> thiago: do you mean where does it download the files to?
[05:07] <thiago_> coz im still unsure where to install google earth
[05:07] <thiago_> i want it to be on the same folder as my other applications are installed
[05:07] <szrhawaii_> downloadbinary.do is not the bundle i was looking for
[05:08] <DasKreech> thiago_: different apps will install in different places
[05:08] <DasKreech> A lot go into /usr/share/bin and /usr/bin
[05:08] <thiago_> google earth allows me to choose the install path
[05:08] <thiago_> so
[05:08] <thiago_> where shoulld i put it
[05:08] <snarkster> i would use the google earth from the repos
[05:09] <thiago_> i cant find it though
[05:09] <szrhawaii_> DaSkreech so since that doesnt even have the file name bundle im looking for what do i do with the downloadbinary.do file
[05:09] <thiago_> doesnt show up in adept
[05:09] <snarkster> right you will need to add a repo
[05:09] <thiago_> which repo
[05:09] <snarkster> i believe you need the medibuntu repo
[05:09] <thiago_> how do i do that
[05:09] <snarkster> so google medibuntu and goto its website and itll tell you what to do
[05:10] <thiago_> okayt
[05:10] <thiago_> im off
[05:10] <thiago_> see ya later
[05:10] <snarkster> good luck
[05:10] <snarkster> Ill be here for alittle bit
[05:14] <user_> hello, I'm wondering what konsole command to use to get the latest firefox
[05:16] <holycow> user_: you wait until the next release, or you download the binary from mozilla.org, extract the tar.gz and run the startup script
[05:16] <holycow> user_: you can also change your default nick in your irc client
[05:17] <user_> yes I know but I'm too lazy to bother, as well as finish this sent
[05:17] <holycow> *nod*
[05:19] <snarkster> user_ open a konsole and do sudo aptitude install firefox
[05:19] <user_> *sigh* If I must
[05:20] <user_> *Done
[05:21] <user_> snarkster: ?
[05:22] <nkabbara> hi
[05:23] <snarkster> user_:  yes
[05:23] <nkabbara> I just installed 8.10, it seems I can't get my display settings to save.
[05:23] <nkabbara> Any idea what that is?
[05:23] <nkabbara> I click apply and the ok. I open display settings back up and their back to their old settings.
[05:24] <user_> snarkster: done, what next?
[05:25] <nkabbara> Hmm, could this be a bug?
[05:25] <nkabbara> is sounds more like a permission issue.
[05:28] <user_> <.<
[05:28] <user_> anywone?
[05:28] <user_> >:
[05:28] <user_> or at least Opera, even
[05:29] <chode> hi
[05:29] <chode> i currently have 3 partitions on my hard drive.  if i want a kubuntu and solaris partition, do i make the remailing space an extended partitions.  and "with-in" that extended partition make 2 logical partitions, one for solaris, one for kubuntu.  is that how the extended partition works ?
[05:30] <DasKreech> chode: Yes
[05:31] <chode> DasKreech: thanx. i wasnt sure if the logical partitions "point" to primary partitions.
[05:31] <holycow> if i remember correctly there are 4 partitions per extended partition
[05:31] <holycow> so you can either only have 4 main partitions or x logical ones with 4 partitions in each
[05:32] <chode> oh so what can i do with my current 3 primary partitoins.
[05:32] <holycow> once you set it up, nothing
[05:33] <DasKreech> chode: Not quite
[05:33] <DasKreech> You have 4 primary partitions of which 3 can be designated as extended
[05:33] <\Kira> is anybody here ever set up a sauerbraten server? Im wondering about the system requirements, there doesnt seem to be any resources on google
[05:33] <DasKreech> Which can have 255 Logical prtitions
[05:33] <user_> anyone? Opera?
[05:33] <user_> no?
[05:34] <holycow> ah there you go
[05:34] <DasKreech> holycow: Some programs put an arbitrary llimit on the logical partitons you can have
[05:34] <holycow> DasKreech: thank you  for the correction
[05:34] <DasKreech>  some say 4 some say 12
[05:34] <DasKreech> It's still arbitrary
[05:34] <DasKreech> user_: You want Opera?
[05:34] <user_> si si si
[05:34] <user_> si*
[05:34] <DasKreech> !opera
[05:35] <user_> yeh, this is Kubuntu
[05:35] <user_> not Ubuntu
[05:35] <DasKreech> user_: Same principle applies
[05:35] <user_> how the hellz do I get to applications?
[05:36] <DasKreech> user_: the URL is the important part of the factoid
[05:36] <Andrew``> can anyone help me with grip? or shwo me where to get help?
[05:36] <DasKreech> Far as I know that factoid hasn't been updated since Dapper but the URL has been
[05:36] <DasKreech> Andrew``: Put your thumb overyour other fingers then lock it
[05:36] <DasKreech>  helps in stopping both slipping
[05:37] <DasKreech> Also might want work on flexing your wrist
[05:37] <Andrew``> oh hahahha
[05:37] <DasKreech> :-D
[05:38] <user_> hm, ok you know what, i'd be happy with Konquorer, but how can I get flash player for it installed?
[05:38] <DasKreech> !flash
[05:38] <user_> sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree?
[05:38] <DasKreech> That works
[05:38] <DasKreech> Then go into konqueror settings -> plugins and scan for new plugins
[05:38] <Trel> Quesiton, I'm trying to set up a manual IP for a connection, but I'm not sure if I'm doing it right (because it won't let me select it)
[05:39] <Trel> What do I put for DNS Adresses and DNS Search?
[05:39] <DasKreech> DNS address should be an IP s a network name which can be left blank
[05:39] <Andrew``> in grip, I select rip & encode, yet it rips to wav, but the mp3 is empty
[05:40] <DasKreech> do you have a mp3 encoder installed?
[05:41] <Trel> DasKreech, when I click it, it won't select
[05:41] <Trel> any idea on that?
[05:41] <Andrew``> yes
[05:41] <Andrew``> have lame installed
[05:42] <DasKreech> Trel: in 8.10 Static IPs don't work you have to set the manual IPs .. umm manually
[05:42] <DasKreech> Andrew``:
[05:42] <snarkster> user_: if you did sudo aptitude install firefox then start firefox
[05:42] <DasKreech> tried audiocd:/ ?
[05:42] <user_> snarkster: didn't work, it says Done but there's no Firefox on my machien
[05:42] <Trel> DasKreech: damn, thanks <.<
[05:44] <snarkster> ok user_ open terminal and type firefox
[05:45] <snarkster> user_:  are you using kde 4.2 beta?
[05:45] <user_> firefox is not installed
[05:45] <user_> I don't know what I'm using :P how do I find out?
[05:46] <snarkster> what do you mean you dint know what your using?
[05:46] <user_> It's simple, I, user_, have not the knowing-abouts of what i, user_, be using
[05:47] <snarkster> ok i pass.
[05:47] <holycow> help/about?
[05:47] <snarkster> in fact Im going to goto bed now.
[05:47] <snarkster> good night
[05:47] <user_> yeh well anyway
[05:48] <user_> I downloaded this OS about this time last year
[05:48] <user_> and put it away in a dark mildew-infested closet
[05:51] <user_> oooooooooooooook then
[05:51] <user_> tata
[05:56] <werdnum> So, how do I get cloned displays?
[05:57] <werdnum> I've connected a VGA cord, and I want my display cloned out to it.
[05:57] <holycow> werdnum: with kde right now i think its hard to actually set this up
[05:57] <holycow> the utility managing this is not complete yet
[05:57] <holycow> are you running nvidia video card by any chance?
[05:58] <werdnum> yes, I am, but using the free drivers.
[05:58] <szrhawaii> what is the command to uninstall again
[05:58] <werdnum> sudo apt-get remove?
[05:58] <szrhawaii> thanks
[05:58] <holycow> yes
[05:58] <holycow> werdnum: nvidia-settings
[05:58] <holycow> i believe
[05:59] <holycow> i don't know if that works with open source drivers
[05:59] <werdnum> holycow: I'm a programmer, and have no problem getting my hands dirty in xorg.conf, though...
[06:00] <szrhawaii> szrhawaii@szrhawaii:~$ sudo ./Desktop/vmware/vmware-install.pl -d
[06:00] <szrhawaii> The following VMware kernel modules have been found on your system that were
[06:00] <szrhawaii> not installed by the VMware Installer.  Please remove them then run this
[06:00] <szrhawaii> installer again.
[06:00] <szrhawaii> vmblock
[06:00] <szrhawaii> vmci
[06:00] <szrhawaii> vmmon
[06:00] <szrhawaii> vmnet
[06:00] <werdnum> please don't flood.
[06:00] <szrhawaii> how do i uninstall this
[06:00] <szrhawaii> it says that on my terminal
[06:00] <szrhawaii> i forgot the pastebin url
[06:01] <holycow> sudo vmware-uninstall.pl
[06:01] <szrhawaii> thanks
[06:01] <szrhawaii> that didnt exist
[06:01] <holycow> werdnum: setting up dual output via xorg.conf has always been an issue for me. there are so many settings its really hard to remember all the possibilites
[06:02] <holycow> in the past i've resorted to finding someones working dualhead xorg file and playing with that or just using the nvidia program to do it
[06:02] <holycow> gnomes resolution settings config isn't bad as of last release either
[06:03] <werdnum> proprietary nvidia drivers won't suspend, IIRC
[06:03] <holycow> werdnum: if you want ot know how to do it manually, the ubuntuforums.org thread on dual head is great
[06:03] <holycow> it covers nvidia, ati and one other method
[06:03]  * werdnum is too lazy, will just install proprietary drivers.
[06:04]  * werdnum notes that this is why nobody uses linux on the desktop.
[06:04] <hyper_ch> werdnum: yeah, nobody uses linux on the desktop... you're right on that
[06:05] <ott0> if i wanted to view the source for a particular linux kernel function, what would be the best way to do it?
[06:05] <JediatNight> Hi, i have a bin file which i want to execute in the bash shell. How do i run it as root?
[06:06] <szrhawaii> anyone else any suggestions on how i can uninstall vmware
[06:06] <werdnum> sudo ./Something.bin
[06:06] <szrhawaii> huh
[06:06] <JediatNight> werdnum: it says command not found
[06:06] <ott0> i.e. i want to view the source for execl (at least i think it's a kernel function)
[06:07] <holycow> szrhawaii: i told you already
[06:08] <werdnum> JediatNight: you have to replace Something.bin with the name of the file :)
[06:08] <holycow> sudo vmware-uninstall.pl
[06:08] <hyper_ch> ott0: you'll have to download the source
[06:08] <JediatNight> werdnum: I did
[06:08] <holycow> type in vmware-<TAB> to see all the vmware commands
[06:08] <werdnum> JediatNight: is it in your current directory?
[06:08] <JediatNight> sudo: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82-pkg1.run: command not found
[06:08] <szrhawaii> it ddnt work holycow
[06:09] <JediatNight> i want to run the above file
[06:09] <holycow> szrhawaii: then do sudo updatedb && sudo locate vmware
[06:09] <JediatNight> werdnum: Please see the error i got
[06:09] <holycow> and delete all instances of vmware
[06:09] <holycow> all done
[06:11] <[Relic[> Is there a good image viewr for kubuntu 8.10, gwenview can't even sort by date far as I can tell and it has no text list menus either?
[06:11] <ott0> hyper_ch: okay, thanks. too bad there's not a quicker way to search/view online or something
[06:12] <werdnum> JediatNight: is it executable?
[06:12] <szrhawaii> i found the uninstaller in my /usr/bin
[06:12] <werdnum> ls -la ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82-pkg1.run
[06:12] <JediatNight> werdnum: yes
[06:12] <werdnum> holycow: I added it as 'TwinView' in nvidia-settings, but no dice, it's still just blank.
[06:13] <szrhawaii> thanks holy cow i found it
[06:13] <holycow> werdnum: there is at least 3 things you ahveto setup in yoru xorg.conf file to get it to work
[06:13] <holycow> that is only one
[06:13] <JediatNight> werdnum: any suggestions?
[06:13] <werdnum> holycow: what are the others? :)
[06:13] <holycow> try doing nvidia-settings and see what it generates for your self
[06:13] <JediatNight> it sucks that there isnt any root in kubuntu :/
[06:13] <werdnum> JediatNight: paste the output of the command I gave you.
[06:13] <DasKreech> [Relic[: digikam is a good image manager
[06:13] <holycow> werdnum: i don't remember
[06:13] <holycow> szrhawaii: no worries
[06:13] <holycow> JediatNight: it actually doesn't
[06:14] <dude1> sudo nvidia-settings
[06:14] <DasKreech> [Relic[: Gwenview -> View -> Sort by -> date btw
[06:14] <holycow> JediatNight: what sucks is users not wanting to learn about security
[06:14] <JediatNight> ls -la ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82-pkg1.run
[06:14] <JediatNight> -rw------- 1 xyz  xyz 21092313 2008-12-15 00:00 ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82-pkg1.run
[06:14] <JediatNight> holycow: good point
[06:14] <werdnum> JediatNight: it's not executable.
[06:14] <JediatNight> should i do a chmod +x ?
[06:14] <werdnum> holycow: As far as I can tell, it makes no changes at all.
[06:15] <[Relic[> DasKreech: not on this version
[06:15] <werdnum> JediatNight: if you want to run it, yes.
[06:15] <holycow> werdnum: oh it does
[06:15] <holycow> better backup your good one first, just in case
[06:15] <JediatNight> i haev to exit x-server
[06:15] <holycow> there is a save to x config file button make sure you save it
[06:15] <JediatNight> will be back
[06:15] <holycow> click it
[06:16] <werdnum> holycow: ah, I didn't do that :)
[06:16] <[Relic[> DasKreech: and unfortunately adept didn't bother with sort by alphabet so it is near impossible to find something w/o a name for it in the first place
[06:17] <DasKreech> [Relic[: What version do you have?
[06:17] <werdnum> holycow: it rewrites the config file, but it only writes one Screen section.
[06:17] <werdnum> perhaps because I selected TwinView, rather than 'extra X screen'
[06:17] <holycow> i don't have access to my work machine, i'd send yo mine
[06:17] <holycow> i don't htink you actually setup dual screens them
[06:18] <holycow> infact i know you didn't
[06:18] <werdnum> I'm just trying to get my laptop screen replicated on my TV
[06:18] <werdnum> so I can relax and watch some movies :)
[06:18] <werdnum> restarting X, I haven't managed anything except making my normal screen horribly offset
[06:18] <holycow> i understand but you aren't actually setting up dual screen
[06:18] <szrhawaii> hey if my terminal keeps saying y and constantly doing that is that bad or should i just close the session out
[06:19] <holycow> you are opening up the tools i'm asking you to, but when you go to the dual monitor section you aren't setting it up
[06:19] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: It's a program
[06:19] <DasKreech> it's called yes
[06:19] <szrhawaii> should i leave it
[06:19] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: ctrl+C should stop it
[06:19] <holycow> note: i've had to play with it for a bit to get it to save/work
[06:19] <DasKreech>  ^c
[06:19] <szrhawaii> ok
[06:19] <DasKreech> It will do that forever
[06:19] <szrhawaii> ok that worked
[06:19] <szrhawaii> i was hoping it would stop
[06:19] <[Relic[> DasKreech: the current one for kde4 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~interpid1
[06:19] <szrhawaii> but that worked thanks
[06:20] <DasKreech> [Relic[: Ah I'm on KDe 4.2
[06:20] <[Relic[> so how do I get that?
[06:20] <werdnum> holycow: okay, I've opened up nvidia-settings.
[06:20] <werdnum> What should I do there?
[06:20] <holycow> xserver display configuration
[06:20] <DasKreech> [Relic[: Topic
[06:20] <holycow> set that up how you like
[06:21] <User878> need basic info on partitioning a fresh instal of kubuntu.
[06:21] <[Relic[> off to try that
[06:22] <holycow> User878: what do you want to know?
[06:22] <werdnum> holycow: now, I want to set it to TwinVIew?
[06:22] <User878> 1  would like to set up a 3 partition setup.
[06:22] <User878> have windoze on seperate HD
[06:23] <User878> three partitions would be ... kubuntu, swap file, and extended partition that can be used by both windose and linux.
[06:24] <holycow> sounds like you pretty well know everything you need for the setup
[06:24] <ott0> what's the best software to view the linux kernel source?
[06:24] <DasKreech> a text editor
[06:24] <User878> i have very little experience with the setup o fkubuntu... no matter hoe basic/elementary.
[06:24] <holycow> i'm not sure what to suggest except make sure to backup all your files first
[06:24] <DasKreech> though a text viewer also works
[06:24] <holycow> User878: you might want to just practice installing on a single hd
[06:24] <holycow> and set your xp aside unti lyou get that down
[06:25] <holycow> however just remember one thing
[06:25] <User878> question is that i know nothing re: the different types of partitions used in linux.
[06:25] <ott0> i'd like to be able to search for a function in all the files
[06:25] <holycow> the ubuntu installer will detect windows and setup the bootloader to give youa windows boot option
[06:25] <holycow> so its pretty automatic
[06:25] <User878> should they all be primary partitions.
[06:25] <holycow> if you want they can be
[06:25] <holycow> but
[06:25] <User878> should just the boot partition be primary?
[06:25] <holycow> since you can only have 4 primary partitions you are going to run out
[06:26] <holycow> so you can make whichever ones you want extended
[06:26] <User878> what's the deal with people saving their linux boot and their root files in different partitions...
[06:26] <holycow> well think of root kind of like c: on windows
[06:26] <holycow> its wehere everything goes
[06:26] <holycow> bootloader just happens to either go on the boot sector of the hd which is predefined
[06:26] <szrhawaii> ok need help i downloaed the vmware then downloaded the one to get the workstations now the windows wont even open so i can actually use vmware
[06:26] <holycow> and standardized
[06:26] <holycow> or
[06:27] <holycow> you can install it on its own /boot folder and put it on a partition
[06:27] <holycow> for beginners its recommended to keep it simple, just put the bootloader on the boot sectors
[06:27] <holycow> the installer will ask you, just say yes
[06:28] <szrhawaii> vmware help
[06:28] <szrhawaii> why isnt the screen opening
[06:28] <szrhawaii> now
[06:28] <werdnum> holycow: Okay, so I set it up with "CRT-0 clones Internal Display Panel"
[06:28] <holycow> szrhawaii: what does that mean?
[06:28] <holycow> what screen?
[06:28] <werdnum> I saved to the X configuration file, and restarted X.
[06:29] <holycow> werdnum: great
[06:29] <werdnum> Still nothing up on the TV, though.
[06:29] <holycow> did it recognize the tv while you were messing around?
[06:30] <szrhawaii> i had downloaded the vmware player first then the workstation second terminal asked me to uninstall the previous version then to install the other version for the workstation now the application says its running then shuts off and doesnt run what should i do
[06:30] <werdnum> holycow: what do you mean 'did it recognise the tv'?
[06:30] <holycow> i'm thinking part of the problem might be the signal its sending to the tv and the tv can't display it
[06:31] <holycow> but i'm not sure thats usually a problem i have with monitors not tvs
[06:31] <werdnum> How would I determine whether that was the case?
[06:31] <szrhawaii> i followed these steps now my vmware application isnt running https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[06:31] <holycow> good question, i don't have a tv to test.  i think i got you as far as i can.
[06:32] <silleme> holycow... sorry lost connection for a short bit.  Is there an easy way to modify grub boot loader so that Windose is first in boot order?  Am fairly proficient with win xp... however, linux(specifically ubuntu/kubuntu is very new to me.
[06:32] <holycow> szrhawaii: well why don't you remove all instances of vmware first
[06:32] <holycow> second
[06:32] <werdnum> holycow: okay, thanks for the help.
[06:32] <holycow> if you are installing server you will need the any-any patch to actually get it to build the modules
[06:32] <szrhawaii> i did that earlier then reinstalled this one
[06:33] <szrhawaii> should i uninstall this one again
[06:33] <holycow> silleme: yes, modify ...
[06:33] <holycow> ./boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:33] <holycow> that file
[06:34] <holycow> szrhawaii: well its not working an you don't know why and there is no way for me to tell what you did really
[06:34] <holycow> so start clean
[06:34] <szrhawaii> ok
[06:34] <holycow> remove all instances of vm and make sure you have the correct any-any patch for your version of ubuntu/kernel
[06:35] <szrhawaii> when i remove something how do i do a clean up of the uninstall data
[06:35] <szrhawaii> apt-get autoclean or something like that
[06:35] <holycow> well no
[06:35] <holycow> you installed vmware using the vmware installer
[06:35] <holycow> that COMPLETELY BYPASSES the package manager
[06:36] <holycow> you only install that if it was from a .deb
[06:36] <szrhawaii> right
[06:36] <silleme> ok.. as said real tard when it comews to anything not windows.  modify that file...how??  use any particular console app?  do i just type the link and "edit"??
[06:36] <holycow> you haveto manually rm all vmware files from your system
[06:36] <holycow> as your vmware-uninstaller.pl doesn't seem to work
[06:37] <DasKreech> ott0: Do you know the functions name?
[06:37] <szrhawaii> man thats gonna take forever
[06:37] <ott0> yeah, execl
[06:38] <DasKreech> grep -r execl /dir/with/linuxsource | less
[06:38] <gab3> if I want to repartition kubuntu to make room for a new windowz partition, what is the best way?
[06:39] <holycow> kparted or gparted
[06:39] <holycow> using a live cd
[06:39] <gab3> ok that makes sense.
[06:39] <gab3> but, when i reboot kubuntu
[06:39] <gab3> it won't freak will it?
[06:40] <holycow> backup your valuables beforehand
[06:40] <gab3> it will regognize its new size and be OK?
[06:40] <holycow> well depends on what you do
[06:40] <gab3> here's what i need to do:
[06:40] <ott0> weird, grep didn't return anything
[06:40] <holycow> provided grub partition data points to the right places, the answer is no
[06:40] <gab3> the partition /boot stays the same
[06:40] <gab3> i need to shrink / by 10G
[06:40] <shingi> What is the recommended media player for KDE
[06:40] <gab3> format it as NTFS
[06:40] <gab3> and install windows xp
[06:40] <ott0> it does if i do grep -r exec dir
[06:40] <gab3> shingi: so many of them - i like vlc...
[06:41] <ott0> but if execl
[06:41] <holycow> i don't remember how grub manages partitions, i think its uuids so i think it should be fine
[06:41] <shingi> I have dragon player which is not playing *.mov files
[06:41] <DasKreech> ott0: Isn't in the source then
[06:41] <holycow> just backup your data, if you screw it up just install win first and reinstall ubuntu after and put your /home back
[06:41] <gab3> sudo apt-cache search quicktime|less
[06:41] <gab3> make sure you have the right codecs installed for quicktime
[06:41] <DasKreech> shingi: add mov support to your engine
[06:41] <shingi> I have always used GNOME and i recently changed to KDE
[06:41] <DasKreech> !quicktime
[06:42] <gab3> i love KDE 4.1, and have always preferred KDE to GNOME as a desktop environment
[06:42] <gab3> what i'd like to know is why people seem to loathe kde
[06:42] <holycow> shingi: in kde 4.x its dragon player but use wahtever works
[06:42] <gab3> i don't get it =)
[06:42] <holycow> vlc is the best of all of them really
[06:42] <holycow> gab3: ignorance
[06:42] <silleme> need instructions at the most basic level on how to edit menu.1st file... not at all familiar w/ syntax or layout of linux.  anyone know  of a very straight fwd guide avail on how to do this...
[06:42] <holycow> gab3: lots of people loathe gnome as well
[06:42] <holycow> same reason
[06:42] <gab3> i don't loathe it, i just find it inferior
[06:43] <gab3> i was disappointed when Sun picked GNOME for Solaris' replacement for CDE instead of CDE
[06:43] <gab3> but it's ok
[06:43] <DasKreech> silleme: Look in system settings there should be a nice GUI edior here
[06:43] <ott0> DasKreech: any idea where it is implemented?
[06:43] <holycow> i don't agree with its design and egnineering goals
[06:43] <DasKreech> editor there
[06:43] <gab3> screen refreshes with GTK also seem..slower
[06:43] <gab3> KDE is rather complete
[06:43] <DasKreech> ott0: nope sorry
[06:43] <tboxmy> all...all, Kubuntu 8.10 had lots of probs.
[06:43] <tboxmy> so dont be surprise if many ppl get turned off
[06:44] <gab3> that's why we have apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[06:44] <gab3> the only reason i need to install windows is because i have a terribly old video card and need to launch a direct3d app, reconfigure some things, write out a few files
[06:44] <shingi> Ok, will install the kubuntu-restricted-extras and see what happens
[06:44] <gab3> then i'll be done
[06:44] <holycow> well the users that are put off by kde 4.x issues are the same users that are put off by linux issues in general
[06:44] <szrhawaii> it asked me if i wanted to switch to a newer version but then the terminal recommended not to now the thing said execution aborted
[06:44] <gab3> and can run xp within virtualbox again
[06:44] <holycow> they refuse to pay for anything and demand that even free stuff fulfills their every whim
[06:45] <holycow> i don't sympathise with that crowd at all
[06:45] <DasKreech> holycow: Not fully true but a close approximation
[06:45] <gab3> you know, i really prefer freebsd for many things. what sold me on *buntu were a few things:
[06:45] <holycow> i am broadstroking, indeed
[06:45] <gab3> the debian package system is the best i've encountered;
[06:45] <tboxmy> holycow: not really...e.g. bluetooth support, dolphin cant zip/unzip files with right click.
[06:45] <gab3> well actually that's mostly it.
[06:45] <zeth_> is there a gnupg plugin for Kmail?
[06:45] <gab3> heh.
[06:45] <holycow> tboxmy: see thats EXACTLY the perfect example
[06:45] <holycow> you didn't do you research
[06:46] <holycow> ITS NOT FUCKING DONE
[06:46] <gab3> also i am glad I can do:
[06:46] <tboxmy> doesnt detect powershot camera for usage
[06:46] <holycow> does that help?
[06:46] <gab3> apt-get install firefox
[06:46] <DasKreech> !ohmy
[06:46] <tboxmy> I know its not complete
[06:46] <gab3> and not get "iceweasel"
[06:46] <silleme> daskreech:  k.  i dont recall there being a editor on my previous version of kubuntu.  also, are editors specific to say kde vs gnome layout??   one uses grub as bootloader.. the other uses a diferent loder, no?
[06:46] <holycow> then stop point out really stupid things
[06:46] <DasKreech> silleme: Nope Grub for all
[06:46] <Tamagotono> I am wondering how stable KDE 4.2 Beta is.  Any major show stoppers?
[06:46] <tboxmy> holycow: but those who wanted to consider will have probs
[06:46] <holycow> no
[06:46] <holycow> that an example of people NOT DOING THEIR RESEARCH
[06:46] <DasKreech> Tamagotono: No show stoppers some annoyances please find as many as yo ucan and help them be gone by final release :)
[06:47] <holycow> its ane xample of users not wanting to understand that they are part of the development process
[06:47] <gab3> KDE, IMHO, is the easiest to  use, most comprehensive, best desktop environment in computing period, second ONLY to Mac OSX
[06:47] <holycow> well i don't agree with that
[06:47] <holycow> maybe for you
[06:47] <tboxmy> holycow: being part of a development process is one thing
[06:47] <holycow> users tend to find things that fit their needs according to different criteria
[06:48] <holycow> i hear some people like windows
[06:48] <holycow> tboxmy: no its not
[06:48] <gab3> i like windows...
[06:48] <holycow> it has everything to do with expectations
[06:48] <Tamagotono> DasKreech: Thanks, I will try it out.  I don't mind annoyances, but I still need to be able to get my work done.  :)
[06:48] <gab3> XP..2003..2008
[06:48] <gab3> i can't stand vista.
[06:48] <holycow> if you come fromwindows and expect to get everything for free and be treated like a customer
[06:48] <DasKreech> Tamagotono: No problems so far
[06:48] <zeth_> anyone know about a plugin for Kmail that allows you to work with GnuPG?
[06:48] <gab3> and as a server, and I do windows server admin for a living
[06:48] <holycow> then you are indeed going to be dissapointed
[06:48] <gab3> i can't stand windows
[06:48] <gab3> "The device failed to start"
[06:48] <gab3> no lspci
[06:48] <holycow> you come here expecting to learn and particapate, then you will be pleasantly surprised
[06:48] <gab3> no /proc
[06:48] <DasKreech> zeth_: I think there is one check #kontact
[06:49] <tboxmy> yes, those who have used gnome did find basic needs are provided, but not in Kubuntu 8.10
[06:49] <szrhawaii> how do i change my gcc from 4.2.3 to the 4.2.4 version
[06:49] <gab3> KDE makes me want to learn C++ so i can contribute
[06:49] <DasKreech> !info gcc
[06:49] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[06:49] <tboxmy> gab3: good for you!
[06:49] <szrhawaii> i have hardy
[06:50] <gab3> oh, here's a question i wanted to ask you guys--
[06:50] <DasKreech> !info gcc hardy
[06:50] <gab3> (k)ubuntu's packages are compiled for what targets with i386?
[06:50] <szrhawaii> see it says 4.2.3 but the vmware wants 4.2.4
[06:50] <gab3> are they like windows binaries, and compiled for say, the highest available and include code for lesser CPUs or
[06:50] <szrhawaii> how do i get to that
[06:50] <DasKreech> i386 from the normal repos x86_64 on the 64 bit repos
[06:50] <DasKreech>  there are powerpc repos as well I think
[06:51] <DasKreech> szrhawaii: Ahmm check backports
[06:52] <szrhawaii> how do i do that
[06:53] <DasKreech> !backports
[06:53] <silleme> can anyone recommend a "ok, you are stupid and need remedial kubuntu 101" site.
[06:54] <silleme> the above is just too much to try to understand after 25 yrs of pure windose use....
[06:54] <holycow> silleme: there really is no such thing
[06:54] <holycow> just start using it
[06:54] <holycow> i find the 2 / 2/ 2 rule applies to the average user
[06:55] <silleme> i have been kinda using it.  but using its apps and understanding its syntax are 2 diff things.
[06:55] <holycow> 2 days to learn where stuff is, 2 weeks to get most questions answered, 2 months to solidify a good workflow where you no longer haveto ask questions to do things and just do them
[06:56] <holycow> during the whole process and after its just look it up on google
[06:56] <holycow> what syntax are you talking about specifically?
[06:56] <silleme> for me 2weeks 2 months and 2 yrs...
[06:56] <holycow> there isno need to use terminal, we use it just because its faster for most things
[06:56] <silleme> well for example edit grub.
[06:57] <holycow> well thats not exactly a beginner thing, is it?
[06:57] <holycow> why are you editing grub when you are just learning the os?
[06:57] <holycow> thats a system admin task, not a user task
[06:57] <silleme> you said i should modify the 1st file.
[06:58] <holycow> no, you asked where it is
[06:58] <holycow> i told you
[06:58] <holycow> or rather which
[06:58] <holycow> so the problem you are running into is that you are mixing system admin things with user things
[06:58] <holycow> a regular user is not expected tonoodle around in sys admin tasks
[06:58] <holycow> however as you are we'll help
[06:58] <silleme> edit using console?  what command to edit?
[06:58] <holycow> do kdesu kate /boot/grub/blahblah and edit the file
[06:59] <holycow> when you are done hit ctrl/s
[06:59] <holycow> you can use console but instead invoke kate for your first time
[06:59] <holycow> as per example above
[06:59] <holycow> it will be easier =
[06:59] <holycow> you can learn nano and emacs later
[07:01] <silleme> k.  will try.  specifically how to change the order OSs in loader.... meaning how to indicate a particular OS as ebing the new default??
[07:03] <holycow> thats just the first one in that file
[07:08] <szrhawaii> do i put this file in the third party software in my package manager deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[07:08] <DaSkreech> silleme: Got through>
[07:08] <DaSkreech> ?
[07:08] <szrhawaii> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[07:09] <silleme> reason for wanting to change the default OS on a multiboot system... want to change default from feisty fawn to win xp.... sometimes need to access a particular pc remotely from a primarily xp network.  unless i am physically there to manually select xp, this pc always boots in linux... feisty fawn.  real hassle manually choosing xp on this pc.
[07:09] <holycow> thats fine, its just not considered a user level thing
[07:09] <holycow> remember, windows doesn't even understand if another os is present at all
[07:10] <holycow> so you are kinda ahead of the curve there
[07:10] <DaSkreech> silleme: What's your menu.lst look like ?
[07:10] <holycow> silleme: remember the general idea is that a user just accepts what is there and learns how to use the preconfigured os, an admin changes the way an os behaves
[07:10] <szrhawaii> where is the source.list located
[07:11] <silleme> no... guess not.  well will attempt modification.
[07:11] <holycow> part of a windows users frustrations with linux has to do without understanding that difference
[07:12] <silleme> DaSkreech:  Dont know what it looks like. presently on my laptop running xp.  will be getting off to boot my multibooot monster of a pc
[07:12] <DaSkreech> silleme: ok It's a pretty simple procedure
[07:13] <sushil> hi
[07:13] <DaSkreech> !hi
[07:14] <silleme> will rejoin group hopefully soon.. and hopefully dont crap out grub.  i guess thte cool thing with linux is tha tone can always reinstal grub.. not so with windose.  corrupt or loose nt loader and that's it. you're SOL... will try mod nwo.   thanks guys...
[07:15] <holycow> you got it
[07:15] <DaSkreech> silleme: you can reinstall that with a WIndows CD
[07:18] <silleme> DaSkreech:  yeah, I know.... in theory..... have messed with my pcs enough to know i am capable of really messing up my systems.  Not to mention that it helps when one has fully functional windos CDs to reinstall from....  :)
[07:18] <silleme> will be back soon... i hope...
[07:33] <szrhawaii> is anyone home
[07:33] <DaSkreech> nope
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> nar, no ones here mate
[07:34] <szrhawaii> ok hey i did the backports and i am wondering what to do now in order to get the 4.2.4 gcc instead of the 4.2.3
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> !info gcc
[07:35] <szrhawaii> i have hardy
[07:35] <szrhawaii> i just need to know if i upgrade to the 4.2.4 do i need to uninstall the 4.2.3
[07:35] <Tamagotono> DaSkreech: I just installed 4.2 and realized that the quickaccess plasmoid is not avialable as it requires libplasma2 but there are broken packages.  I googled it but only found a few others who were complaining about it.  Have you heard of a workaround to get it installed and working?
[07:35] <szrhawaii> what is the pastebin url
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: shouldnt do, the new one should just go over the top
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[07:36] <szrhawaii> ok
[07:36] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: apt-get install gcc
[07:37] <szrhawaii> can you help with this right here http://paste.ubuntu.com/85463/
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Tamagotono: Requries code changes at this time. Put it in a bug report
[07:38] <szrhawaii> the funny thing it says im at the newest version but it still says i am running 4.2.3
[07:38] <szrhawaii> but when i check my manager it says 4.2.4
[07:38] <szrhawaii> its wierd
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: sudo apt-get --purge remove gcc; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install gcc
[07:39] <holycow> where does kde store trash files again?
[07:39] <Tamagotono> DaSkreech: I'll do that.  Love the new look of 4.2!  Looks like it still has the "plasma crash with network but no internet" problem.
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Tamagotono: Where does that happen?
[07:41] <szrhawaii> now its strictly back at 4.2.3
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> !trash
[07:42] <holycow> oh i local, danke
[07:44] <szrhawaii> so it still says 4.2.3 on my terminal and 4.2.4 in my adept manager so which one is correct
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: not sure, does it say 4.2.4 is installed or is installable?
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: try: gcc --version
[07:46] <szrhawaii> on my terminal it says 4:4.2.3-1ubuntu6
[07:47] <szrhawaii> but when i look at adept it says 4.2.4 on all of them
[07:47] <szrhawaii> it says 4.2.4
[07:48] <szrhawaii> should i reboot
[07:48] <tim__> =_=
[07:49] <Tamagotono> DaSkreech: if you have a plasmoid that requires internet access, like comic or weather plasmoid, then connect to a network but no internet access (like a hotspot that you have to click on an agreement page before connecting to the internet) when the widgets cant get their data, plasma crashes.
[07:52] <szrhawaii> still not sure whats going down with this vmware man its saying the same thing over again
[07:54] <DaSkreech> silleme: how are you doing?
[07:54] <subhash> is there an Indian channel in this server?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Tamagotono: ok was that reported on bugs.kde.org ?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> subhash: Huh?
[07:55] <subhash> never mind
[07:55] <subhash> I am new to IRC... that was a stupid question I asked. sorry
[07:55] <DaSkreech> subhash: Might not be. What do you want
[07:56] <subhash> I am looking for some discussion on ICAP servers
[07:56] <DaSkreech> I'm ignorant on that :) what are ICAP servers ?
[07:57] <subhash> well, just a light weight version of http
[07:57] <subhash> to serve specific client requests
[07:57] <subhash> is there a room that discusses servers?
[07:59] <silleme> DaSkreech:   hiya... ok i guess. did nto ralize was that easy to edit this file.  much like windos boot.ini.....  one problem.  i guess by default ALL system files are read only.  how to make them write accessiblein order to save my 1st file??
[07:59] <DaSkreech> subhash: #lighthttpd
[08:00] <DaSkreech> silleme: how did you edit it?
[08:00] <subhash> ok thanks Das
[08:00] <subhash> bye
[08:00] <silleme> using kate.
[08:00] <Tamagotono> DaSkreech: I have not reported it (it wasnt until this evening that I figured out how to phrase it) and I am looking for a filed bug now.  If I cannot find one, I'll file one myself.
[08:00] <silleme> but file is in read only mode... :(
[08:01] <DaSkreech> silleme: Is kate still open ?
[08:01] <tim__> :[
[08:01] <DaSkreech> Tamagotono: Great :0
[08:01] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:01] <silleme> in other room... but yes...
[08:01] <tim__> hai
[08:01] <DaSkreech> silleme: you can save it in your ~ and then copy it across
[08:01] <DaSkreech> tim__: hi
[08:01] <DaSkreech> silleme: Want help with that?
[08:02] <tim__> is the new release worth getting
[08:02] <silleme> ok.  but wont original 1st file resist overwrite if folder/orig file in read only mode
[08:02] <silleme> ?
[08:03] <DaSkreech> silleme: Not when you do it the way I tell you to :)
[08:03] <DaSkreech> tim__: possibly but equally possibly not
[08:05] <tim__> hmmm what an ambiguous answer
[08:05] <silleme> DaSkreech:  k...yes pls...
[08:05] <DaSkreech> silleme: when you save it in your home dir you can then type in a terminal sudo mv /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst~ && sudo mv ~/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:06] <DaSkreech> silleme: It will ask you for a password. That's your password that you use to login
[08:09] <DaSkreech> tim__: Its fairly correct though. For some people the upgrade is worth it for some people it's pain
[08:09] <DaSkreech> I can't tell you which one you are
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: if it aint broke...
[08:09] <DaSkreech> Linux is always broken
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: well ive seen folks with glorious hardy installs that work great then upgrade and then they moan
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: its my mantra for PCs
[08:11] <tim__> are you a ubuntu pro mr. DaSkreech?
[08:12] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: Works well
[08:12] <DaSkreech> tim__: Ironically yes I am
[08:12] <DaSkreech> I get paid by Linux :-)
[08:12] <tim__> >:O
[08:12] <tim__> could you help me figure something out then? :D
[08:13] <DaSkreech> Maybe
[08:13] <holycow> so
[08:13] <tim__> well im using ubuntu 8.04 on a sont laptop
[08:13] <tim__> sony*
[08:13] <tim__> and im trying to get the built in motion eye cam working
[08:13] <tim__> but i cant
[08:13] <szrhawaii> !gcc
[08:13] <tim__> ive googled around but still cant figure out what im doing right/wrong :[
[08:13] <holycow> with the new ubunt defaults of Documents and Music being in ~/ and with the desktop plasmoid not having the file view by default ...
[08:13] <DaSkreech> !webcam
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> tim__: run lsusb and an ID will be shown, websearch for that ID
[08:14] <holycow> should we ... or even CAN WE delete the Desktop folder without deletirous effect?
[08:14] <tim__> it doesnt show on lsusb though
[08:14] <DaSkreech> You pretty much can always delete the Desktop folder
[08:14] <tim__> :(
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Nothing requires it to be there to work
[08:15] <DaSkreech> Might just get recreated is all
[08:15] <holycow> lets test
[08:17] <tim__> my cam doesnt show up on that search
[08:17] <tim__> sigh :C
[08:17] <tim__> DAMN YOU LINUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUX
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> tim__: have you tried websearching for: ubuntu sony <model name here>
[08:18] <silleme> DaSkreech:  error give n stating -   mv: cannot stat '/boot/grub/menu.1st' : No such file or directory
[08:18] <tim__> yeah nothing really showing ActionParsnip
[08:18] <DaSkreech> silleme: is there a /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> tim__: what make / model is it?
[08:19] <tim__> song vgn-cr515
[08:19] <tim__> sony*
[08:19] <silleme> ha ha ....
[08:19] <DaSkreech> silleme: that's not 1st it's lst
[08:20] <silleme> DaSkreech:  is that a one or an el.??
[08:20] <DaSkreech> el
[08:20] <DaSkreech> like list
[08:20] <silleme> mmmmm.
[08:20] <DaSkreech> but missing an eye
[08:20] <silleme> will try again....
[08:20] <DaSkreech> silleme: do you know tab ?
[08:20] <DaSkreech> !tab
[08:21] <DaSkreech> You can use it to complete names on the command line for you
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> tim__: try this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/8416
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> tim__: it might fly
[08:23] <DaSkreech> Tamagotono: Found it?
[08:24] <tim__> hmm alot of that seems really advanced for me, since the links they provided are 404'd ActionParsnip
[08:24] <tim__> but i think i will post there and see if i can get help from them :D
[08:25] <silleme> !tab
[08:26] <silleme> !tab das no... fairly new to irc as well not familiar w/ tab
[08:26] <DaSkreech> silleme: on the command line if you start typing the name of something when you press tab it will finish it for you
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> tim__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85475/
[08:26] <DaSkreech> silleme: in IRC if you start typing my name and press tab it will finish it for you as well
[08:27] <silleme> DaSkreech:  Not familiar w/ !tab will try... :}
[08:27] <szrhawaii> !gcc 4.2.4
[08:27] <DaSkreech> silleme: Did the command work?
[08:27] <silleme> DaSkreech:  ok tab command down...
[08:28] <silleme> allow me a stupid ?? ... looks like i now have a modified menu.lst~ file
[08:29] <silleme> but lost a menu.lst file in the process.
[08:29] <silleme> command typed generated a similar error.. i think i figured it out. will try again
[08:32] <holycow> silleme: so it worked?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> silleme: What error ?
[08:33] <holycow> oh i was scrolled way up
[08:33] <holycow> heh
[08:33] <holycow> i guess it didn't
[08:34] <szrhawaii> !gcc
[08:34] <szrhawaii> !g++
[08:35] <silleme> holycow:  no... still giving similar errors.  sure it is just simple syntax.
[08:35] <silleme> will try again.
[08:38] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: build-essential
[08:39] <Ketrel> I downloaded some widgets from kde-look, and then compiled them, however, they're not showing up in the add widgets dialog, did I miss some step
[08:40] <Ketrel> I did "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/lib/kde4", then "make", then "sudo make install"
[08:42] <silleme> DaSkreech:  sille question... at one time I had a menu.lst file in my  /boot/grub/folder as well as a menu.lst~ file.  the menu.lst file has disappeared on me and changes appear to be reflected in menu.lst    which is teh temporary file the lst or the lst~  ?
[08:43] <DaSkreech> the ~
[08:43] <DaSkreech> When you edit a file the original gets copied to filename~
[08:43] <DaSkreech> If something went horribly wrong just mv the ~ back to the original filename and you have it back unedited
[08:44] <DaSkreech> its a cheap backup plan
[08:44] <silleme> so the ~ is the backup file??
[08:44] <silleme> or the file tha tsystem uses..
[08:45] <holycow> backup
[08:45] <DaSkreech> the backup
[08:47] <Bou> when is this backup cleaned?
[08:47] <holycow> never
[08:47] <Bou> ahah I see
[08:48] <Bou> so actually every doc edited is duplicated?
[08:48] <holycow> depends on the software
[08:48] <holycow> in emacs and  nano yes
[08:48] <Bou> ok
[08:49] <Bou> I learn things everyday..
[08:55] <silleme> DaSkreech:  ok... i think that i got it to copy just fine in the boot/grub file with the required modifications... for the benefit of learning, why are most things done in terminal preceded with sudo.  also what is mv? and finally, the above change occured without the system asking for my password.  is that messed up?
[08:55] <holycow> mv = move
[08:55] <DaSkreech> silleme: if you need to change something that requires higher privileges than you have you use sudo
[08:55] <DaSkreech> it stands for superuser do
[08:56] <DaSkreech>  so you can do things as if you were a super user
[08:56] <DaSkreech> mv is the short for move
[08:56] <DaSkreech> and no that's ok if you had put it in once before the system will remember it and not keep asking you (unlike Vista)
[08:57] <robin0800> silleme: sudo stays in force for about 15 mins.
[08:57] <silleme> k.. but if system is mine, am only user on this system, should i not always have administrator or superuser priveleges on my pc?
[08:57] <holycow> hell no
[08:57] <holycow> you should always run as a restricted user
[08:57] <holycow> first: to protect you from you
[08:57] <holycow> second: to protect you from running infected binaries
[08:58] <silleme> :} but that is how one learns...
[08:58] <holycow> actually no
[08:58] <silleme> infected binaries....?
[08:58] <holycow> thats how one learns on windows
[08:58] <holycow> not a proper multiuser system
[08:58] <silleme> thats why i am switching to linux based OS
[08:58] <silleme> too many windows STDS
[09:01] <silleme> holycow: DaSkreech:                 will give my pc a boot up.  if by any chance i screwed up my grub... it is easily repaired using instal disk and terminal right?
[09:01] <birnisson> I have kde4 on two machines and on both when I open a window I often get a noise rectangle at first. any workaround?
[09:01] <holycow> for various values of 'easily' ... yes
[09:02] <DaSkreech> silleme: It's easily repaired by editing grub on the fly but yes easy to fix
[09:02] <holycow> birnisson: good question, i have been wondering about that too
[09:02] <birnisson> uhm, let me ask in kde
[09:04] <silleme> thanks guys. will give another go...
[09:07] <holycow> its nice to run into people that want to learn
[09:10] <holycow> http://www.cgcookie.com/articles/blender-unwrap-uvs-on-human-head
[09:10] <holycow> oops wrong window
[09:11] <RobertMB> hey any any of you guys know how to remove the XFCE4 panels when playing a game besides setting them to auto hide?
[09:14] <hypnosis> hi - what version of kde did hardy come with?
[09:16] <DaSkreech> 3.5.9
[09:16] <rogan> !
[09:39] <scott_> help
[09:39] <scott_> oops, sorry
[09:39] <hypnosis> thank you
[09:39] <hypnosis> chalcedony ?
[09:39] <hypnosis> do i know you from another network... ?
[09:42] <stefanjrklb> hi :)
[09:42] <stefanjrklb> Do you know how can I mount my mouse?
[09:42] <gasquetfan> hi
[09:43] <wangyantao> mount mouse??
[09:43] <stefanjrklb> i mean ....
[09:43] <stefanjrklb> when I connecting my mouse to usb it is now working
[09:43] <stefanjrklb> and I don't know what to do
[09:44] <stefanjrklb> I have normal mouse now wireless
[09:44] <wangyantao> oh i don't know either
[09:44] <elwood> hi, i have some akonadi troubles on kde-neon, intrepid
[09:44] <stefanjrklb> thxx :)
[10:19] <birnisson> how are 4.2 beta 2 packages looking? :)
[10:21] <ubuntu_> hi
[10:23] <ubuntu_> i have installed 7.10 on the following Hardware: http://rafb.net/p/lYnIcY90.html but grub can't find any disks, so it still uses xp boot loader :( do you guys have any idea how i can fix it?
[11:12] <Nobody13> XD
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> super quiet today
[11:16] <manish> Please help me share my drive on the network...
[11:16] <peabody> I added a startup script to /etc/init.d to start and stop a service, but I don't see in the documentation how to automatically start on boot and stop on shutdown
[11:16] <peabody> can someone point me in the right direction?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> !startup
[11:16] <manish> How do i do it... I have tried installing samba but i think there is some problem with the permissions
[11:18] <peabody> I don't want it to start up when I start my session, I want it to start at boot
[11:18] <peabody> !boot
[11:18] <manish> ActionParsnip... How do i share my folder in the network
[11:19] <manish> tried installing samba but some problems with the permissions
[11:19] <peabody> !shutdown
[11:19] <peabody> so /etc/rc.local answers part one of my question
[11:19] <peabody> how about stopping the service on shutdown so I can have a clean exit?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> manish: sudo smbpaaswd <your username> <smae password as you login with>
[11:20] <peabody> !exit
[11:21] <peabody> hmm
[11:21] <manish> what will it do actionparsnip
[11:21] <manish> Sorry ActionParsnip
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> manish: make a username and pass for authentication
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> manish: i can give you my smb.conf if you want and you can see how easy it is to confiure
[11:22] <manish> so what happens when i do that... ? does it share the drive or does it give me root access into the computer
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> manish: http://pastebin.com/f54a89ff7
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> manish: you dont share drives, you can share folders
[11:23] <peabody> would it go in the rc0 script?
[11:24] <manish> sorry so this command will help me share folder in the network... and then where do i write the name of the folder to be shared... or I follow the same procedure i was following earlier... ie.. right click on the folder choose share and then click the check boxes and then add permissions automatically and then its done.. Earlier it was not getting done after the final stage.. It said that permissions could not be granted automatically
[11:25] <manish> so now tyHow do i do it... I have tried installing samba but i think there is some problem with the permissions typing this command and then following the old procedure will help me right??
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> manish: ive never done it with gui, i always edit the conf file, just add entrys like the bottom of mine and it will share nicely, the entry in the brackets is the share name, the rest is self explanatory, when you connect you will be challenged for a password which you set when you smbpasswd'd you will then have the access you specify in the conf file
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> manish: sudo apt-get install samba && kdesudo kate /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:28] <buntuDK> !grub
[11:36] <zer0o> hi guys after scanning the system with clam antivirus there are 3 files "_2nxw.cfs" etc in the folder "home/user/.strigi/clucene/.." that the antivir couldn't scan cuz of their size. what are these files? what is strigi? and clucene? can i just get rid of them by deleting them? thanks
[11:43] <Ketrel> I noticed on kde look theres a section for plasma themes, how does one use them?
[11:49] <Bou> Ketrel: if no answer here you can try asking on #plasma maybe
[11:49] <Bou> or even #kde
[12:01] <tkstka> need help.. How to re install kde4.1. I want to remove old info from kde. So what do I delete so the same settings dont get installed?
[12:02] <vge> tkstka: how things look should be in your home folder in a .kde folder, can't give you more specific info thou :/
[12:03] <tkstka> It says there is nothing on /home/.kde
[12:03] <tkstka> :o
[12:04] <vge> try /home/_username_/.kde
[12:05] <tkstka> k
[12:05] <vge> why not just use different username when reinstalling and you should have brand new install as kde settings are user based
[12:06] <vge> u can then remove the old user from kde after reintall
[12:06] <tkstka> there are two different kde folders
[12:06] <tkstka> kde4
[12:06] <tkstka> and kde
[12:06] <tkstka> both have files
[12:07] <tkstka> do I need to delete both
[12:07] <tkstka> ?
[12:07] <tkstka> 1. Install or reinstall kubuntu-desktop using aptitude, (not apt-get or synaptic). Aptitude remembers all the packages installed when you install a metapackage like kubuntu-desktop.
[12:07] <tkstka> 2. Purge (ie completely uninstall) kubuntu-desktop with aptitude. As you installed using aptitude this will now uninstall all the packages you have just installed
[12:07] <tkstka> I found that from google
[12:08] <tkstka> so how do I use aptitude?
[12:08] <tkstka> I'm newbie
[12:08] <vge> like you would use apt-get
[12:08] <vge> but i need to get back to my real work ;)
[12:09] <tkstka> sure
[12:13] <rniamo> hi, which soft to downlaod by torrent, ktorrent doesn't work for me ?
[12:45] <stefanjrklb> Hi
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> yo
[12:46] <david_> I broke Adpet!
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt
[12:46] <david_> *Adept
[12:46] <david_> Thanks!
[12:47] <stefanjrklb> Do you know why my usb mouse when I am connecting it to my usb port isn't working ?
[12:50] <stefanjrklb> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[12:50] <stefanjrklb> and what is this X ?
[12:50] <stefanjrklb> what I need ?
[12:50] <stefanjrklb> sorry but I am new :/
[12:51] <ibrar> how to run kscope on kbuntu 8.10
[12:52] <ibrar> i am getting error
[12:52] <ibrar> kscope: error while loading shared libraries: libkateinterfaces.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> ibrar: apt-file search libkateinterfaces.so.0
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> ibrar: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/universe-bugs/2008-November/024811.html
[12:55] <ibrar> let me check
[12:59] <ibrar> thanks budies
[12:59] <ibrar> it help and now i am able to run kscope
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> awesome
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> !info kscope
[13:00] <ivan__> Здраствуйте. Есть ли рабочий репозитарий для установки kde 3 в 8,10?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> !ru | ivan__
[13:01] <ivan__> Спасибо
[13:04] <vano-sie72> Есть ли рабочий репозитарий для установки kde3 в 8.10?
[13:12] <eagles0513875> !ru | vano-sie72
[13:12] <eagles0513875> anyone else having issues with knetworkmanager not picking up wifi networks or being able to search for them
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: not used t here dude, sorry
[13:17] <eagles0513875> its ok
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: you could try wifi-radar
[13:28] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip ill try it out if that works ill file bug agains knetworkmanager
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: ive always edited /etc/network/interfaces file
[13:29] <Guest73880> hey
[13:29] <Alti1> does anyone have some tome to help a beginer out?
[13:30] <Alti1> i have ubuntu and kubuntu-desktop installed, and i'd like to upgrade both to the newest stable version (with kde 4)
[13:31] <Alti1> installed ubuntu few months ago, so i think the version i have is outdated, but not sure which one i have
[13:32] <tkstka> so how do I get that nice cube thing when I press alt tab
[13:32] <tkstka> ?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Alti1: run lsb_release -a
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> !compiz | tkstka
[13:41] <Xand3r> hi
[13:42] <Xand3r> i applied that the kde color scheme shuld use in non kde apps
[13:43] <Xand3r> but in qt or gtk apps the color isnt changed everry were
[13:43] <Xand3r> what could be the issue?
[13:44] <Xand3r> i am using KDE 4.1.2 and the gtk-qt-engin
[13:50] <ibrar_> Hello, I have just setup kbuntu 8.10
[13:51] <ibrar_> and download firefox
[13:52] <ibrar_> firefox tabs are not properly render on my machine
[13:55] <JontheEchidna> ibrar_: try this theme: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7574
[14:01] <ibrar_> let me try
[14:02] <gustavonarea> Hello. I'm trying to upgrade to KDE 4.2 but I'm running into a dependencies problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85588/
[14:03] <gustavonarea> how can I fix that?
[14:03] <ibrar_> It works now
[14:04] <gustavonarea> this error message is more clear: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85590/
[14:04] <ibrar_> thanks <JontheEchidna>
[14:04] <Salze> gustavonarea: cd /var/cache/apt/archives && sudo dpkg -i --force-all *.deb
[14:04] <Salze> gustavonarea: That's what worked for me.
[14:05] <Salze> sudo apt-get -f install afterwards
[14:05] <Salze> Then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:05] <gustavonarea> Salze: thanks! it seems to be working
[14:07] <Salze> Glad to have helped. :-)
[14:13] <gukk_devel> Dolphin shows under Network , no Workgroup found , otherhand Sama can find one . whats wrong
[14:26] <gustavonarea> Salze: the first command seems to be installing those .deb packages from A to Z, over and over again. Is that normal?
[14:27] <Salze> Yes.
[14:27] <gustavonarea> ok, thanks
[14:27] <Salze> I was very astonished, too. But like I said: it worked for me in that same situation...so I hope it will work for you, too.
[14:40] <leinad_> hi anlle
[14:41] <ibrar_> Can i make my bottom pannel tiny like in 8.04
[14:42] <JontheEchidna> ibrar_: open the panel config bar by clicking on the panel config button on the right of the panel
[14:42] <JontheEchidna> then either drag the edge of the bar (like a window) in KDE 4.1
[14:42] <JontheEchidna> or in KDE 4.2 there should be a "height" button you can drag
[14:44] <geurt> hello
[14:45] <jasminpc> does anybady knows how to lunch vmware
[14:46] <eagles0513875> jasminpc all i can tell you its super buggy for kubuntu or at least i know people who have had issues getting it to work
[14:46] <eagles0513875> !info virtualbox | jasminpc
[14:53] <AltinT> ok so I'm on Hardy, I installed both kubuntu-kde4-desktop and kubuntu-desktop, but still it's not looking anything like kde 4 ... anyone any ideas?
[14:55] <gustavonarea> Please tell me that in KDE 4.2 Beta 1, my previous KDE 4 wallets (in kwalletmanager) are not lost
[14:55] <Salze> They are not lost.
[14:55] <gustavonarea> If not, then how can I re-enable them? kwalletmanager has no wallet available
[14:56] <Salze> I don't know that - it just worked for me.
[14:56] <ibrar__> actually it does not make it tiny drags it down and I cannot see half of the bar :(
[14:57] <AltinT> can anyone tell me how to upgrade from kde 3.5 to 4? i'm running ubuntu and kubuntu-desktop ...
[14:59] <Salze> AltinT: Which version of ubuntu?
[15:00] <AltinT> 8.0.4 (hardy)
[15:00] <Salze> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2
[15:02] <AltinT> thanks man, checking it now
[15:05] <pronoy> like gedit in gnome which is the best editor in kde ?
[15:06] <trappist> pronoy: I'm a vim man, but if I use a graphical editor, I use kate
[15:06] <Bou> +1 on kate
[15:06] <Salze> I don't think there is such a thing as a "best editor". I like kate, too.
[15:06] <genii> "best" is subjective. But as gedit comes standard in gnome, kate comes standard in kde
[15:08] <pronoy> trappist: to edit files like xorg.conf what command do i have to issue in the cli ? kate xorg.conf ?
[15:08] <genii> No
[15:08] <trappist> pronoy: more like gksudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:09] <genii> trappist: <cough> kdesu
[15:09] <trappist> oops!
[15:09] <trappist> kdesu :)
[15:09] <trappist> thx genii
[15:09] <pronoy> genii trappist :) works with just sudo as well :D
[15:09] <trappist> pronoy: there's some reason to not do that.  I forget what it is.
[15:10] <pronoy> genii: can you tell ?
[15:10] <vbgunz> does anyone know why, my shortcut mappings in the menu editor don't work?
[15:11] <Salze> I guess it's about the settings files not having the correct ownership afterwards.
[15:11] <genii> pronoy: If you use sudo with graphical applications, it is not smart enough to leave permissions of application configs and so on alone. If you use kdesu or gksu it won't do this
[15:12] <trappist> Salze: sudo vim causes the same problems if the first time you use vim it's as root... messes up permissions on ~/.viminfo
[15:12] <genii> Salze: Yes
[15:12] <pronoy> genii: tx ?
[15:12] <pronoy> genii: thanks i meant :)
[15:12] <genii> pronoy: np
[15:12] <genii> I think there is still a factoid on the subject
[15:12] <genii> !kdesu
[15:14] <vbgunz> if you guys have yakuake and enjoy vim, check out my script http://dpaste.com/hold/99271/
[15:15] <gustavonarea> Salze: since kwalletmanager is working for you, can you please tell me what package you're using: "kwalletmanager" or "kwalletmanager-kde4"?
[15:16] <Salze> kwalletmanager
[15:17] <Salze> I don't even have an kwalletmanager-kde4 in my repositories.
[15:17] <Guest80971> great, i got kde to work :p
[15:17] <Guest80971> eu, how do i show the desktop? the button to minimize all windows is gone...
[15:17] <ubsafder> how can i troubleshoot my sound systeme on kubuntu 8.1
[15:17] <Salze> gustavonarea: maybe you mixed different kde versions from different repositories?
[15:18] <ubsafder> i looking at youtube but i get no sound
[15:18] <gustavonarea> Saize: Possibly. The only KDE4-specific I see is: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main
[15:18] <gustavonarea> is that OK?
[15:19] <gustavonarea> I had one that contained the word "experimental". I don't know what happened to it
[15:20] <gustavonarea> (ignore my last message, it's still there)
[15:20] <gustavonarea> should I remove http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/ if I have http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu/ ?
[15:21] <gustavonarea> (I'm using intrepid)
[15:23] <Salze> I don't know whether you "should". I just have the later one (experimental), not the first one (members).
[15:24] <Salze> <- using Intrepid, too.
[15:25] <gustavonarea> Salze: Thanks. I'm going to see if this is the problem
[15:25] <Salze> I hope it helps.
[15:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[15:46] <denier> Hey guys just had a quick question. I recently created a l2tp vpn on my linux box so I can connect to it when I am on a insecure wifi access point. I just wanted to make sure of one thing. If someone else was connected to the wifi accespoint, could they see to what ips or websites I was connected to? (or could that be seen in the accespoints/routers logs? I mean all the data is supposed to be encrypted through the vpn, but will they be able to see to what
[15:47] <denier> addresses i am connected or only the vpns addres? thanks
[15:47] <Pici> !crosspost | denier
[15:51] <_jabba> !paste
[16:00] <Ketrel> With the network manager in 8.10, why can't I have more than one wireless network as autoconnect?
[16:04] <gustavonarea> Is there any KDE 4.2 Beta packages maintainer around? With the help of somebody at #kde, I've found a bug on one of the packages
[16:04] <genii> File a bug report at LaunchPad
[16:05] <gustavonarea> kwalletmanager doesn't work on my computer because the "kwalletd" application is not included in "kdelibs-bin": http://paste.chrisarndt.de/paste/850ba77d66c8447abf2f291b8bb75425
[16:06] <gustavonarea> genii: according to <http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58>: "There probably will be many bugs with this release and it is recommended that you do not file bug reports against the packages in this release. If you come across any issue which may be packaging related, it is recommended that you join the Kubuntu IRC channel (#kubuntu on irc.freenode.net) and query those in the channel for assistance."
[16:06] <gustavonarea> That's why I don't open a ticket for this
[16:07] <genii> gustavonarea: Talk then to the people in #ubuntu+1 or in #kubuntu-devel about this, the channel here is for support issues
[16:07] <gustavonarea> genii: cool, thanks, I didn't know about it
[16:08] <genii> gustavonarea: np
[16:09] <BluesKaj> gustavonarea, perhaps even #kde
[16:09] <gustavonarea> BluesKaj: They told me it was a bug in the Kubuntu package
[16:10] <BluesKaj> sure it is :)
[16:10] <BluesKaj> they just don't know how to fix it
[16:10] <zer0o> any application to dub a movie?
[16:10] <BluesKaj> dvdrip
[16:11] <zer0o> dvdrip?
[16:11] <BluesKaj> it's one of them
[16:16] <gustavonarea> Key combinations Alt+F2 and Ctrl+Esc, for example, don't work on KDE 4.2 Beta 1. Is this specific to the Kubuntu packages?
[16:17] <Tm_T> gustavonarea: no idea, I live in svn-trunk and those works
[16:22] <gribouille> there is something totally weired
[16:23] <gribouille> apt-file search /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindXine.cmake yields kdebase-runtime-data: /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindXine.cmake
[16:23] <gribouille> but dpkg -L kdelibs5-dev | egrep '^/usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindXine.cmake$' yields nothing
[16:25] <gribouille> I meant dpkg -L kdebase-runtime-data | egrep '^/usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindXine.cmake$' yields nothing
[16:44] <apadox> how to write script(alias) that will run amarok konversation kopete ? i allready know where to put alias and scripts
[16:55] <Guest29108> how do i make kde4 show my desktop icons?
[16:57] <TimS> nVidia hates me.
[16:58] <TimS> Is anyone else having trouble with 177?
[16:58] <ericdt> Hi, I installed kde 3.2, used it for 1 day. After  configuring the clock widget, plasma crashed
[16:58] <ericdt> tryed to remove .kde and .kderc
[16:58] <ericdt> kde now start with a blank screen
[16:59] <ericdt> with default walpeper
[16:59] <ericdt> wallpaper
[16:59] <ericdt> I can open Konsole
[16:59] <ericdt> executing plasma do not work
[16:59] <ericdt> Any Idea ?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> TimS, which nvidia card?
[17:02] <TimS> 7300gs
[17:03] <BluesKaj> TimS, wait a sec
[17:03] <TimS> Okay
[17:07] <BluesKaj> TimS, check adept with nvidia 7300GS, you'll find this binary xorg driver called version 96
[17:08] <TimS> Hmm
[17:08] <TimS> Have they dropped 7300gs support?
[17:08] <BluesKaj> no the 7300gs is listed
[17:10] <TimS> Hmm
[17:11] <TimS> BluesKaj: 7300 GS is listed on the lastest one too.
[17:11] <TimS> Thats silley.
[17:11] <TimS> It seems to get my monitor with the wrongs settings :r
[17:11] <BluesKaj> are you using the restricted driver ?
[17:11] <TimS> Yeah
[17:12] <BluesKaj> so what's happening ?
[17:13] <White_Pelican> is there any possibility of having kde 4.2 beta 1 available for users of hardy?
[17:13] <peabody> I've got a question, I'm looking to upload via ftp new files that are added to a directory, but I want to also be able to filter exclusions... does anyone know a good software for this?
[17:14] <peabody> or is this straight up shell scripting
[17:14] <TimS> BluesKaj: At the moment I am on 800x600 and that  the highest resolution it sees, it cant detect 1280x1024
[17:14] <TimS> And editing xorg doesn't help :/
[17:14] <TimS> Let me restart.
[17:15] <BluesKaj> ok, what's your monitor's native resolution ?
[17:15] <TimS> 1280x1024
[17:15] <JontheEchidna> White_Pelican: no, we don't have the resources to maintain 4.2 packages for three versions of kubuntu
[17:15] <TimS> back in a sec
[17:15] <White_Pelican> 3 versions?
[17:16] <JontheEchidna> hardy, intrepid and jaunty
[17:16] <White_Pelican> oh wait, intrepid and jaunty
[17:16] <White_Pelican> forgot about the new one
[17:16] <newbie_kubuntu> hi, plz help me to use HyperPanel
[17:17] <White_Pelican> JontheEchidna, I know it would be painful (hehe) but could I compile it?
[17:17] <JontheEchidna> I suppose
[17:17] <White_Pelican> and if so, is there a specific order to it?
[17:18] <White_Pelican> or just use all the source available on kde.org?
[17:18]  * JontheEchidna finds build instructions
[17:20] <JontheEchidna> White_Pelican: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[17:20] <BluesKaj> jaunty ...how lame is that for an OS moniker ? :)
[17:20] <White_Pelican> ty jon
[17:21] <White_Pelican> what's in a name?
[17:21] <gustavonarea> one last question regarding my problem: is the a command I can run to reinstall the whole KDE 4.2 system? apachelogger was right and now I can't even check my emails because kontact and kmail crash on startup
[17:21] <SC0RP> hi all
[17:21] <gustavonarea> s/is the a command/is there a command
[17:22] <BluesKaj> White_Pelican, a rose by any other name ..... but jaunty ...gawd
[17:22] <Guest95077> hey
[17:22] <White_Pelican> what would you have picked?
[17:22] <TimS> BluesKaj: Let me run you through a startup for me. I startup, instead of the login screen, I get 'Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode' Non of the options seem to help me, so I rstart x, and it used to boot fine, now it doesn't
[17:22] <AltinT> where do i find the compiz options in KDE4? i'd like to change some of the hotkeys ....
[17:22] <TimS> How can I choose the nv driver again?
[17:23] <TimS> Or, fix the nvidia driver would be better.
[17:23] <JontheEchidna> AltinT: KDE4 has it's own desktop effects that are separate from compiz, but you can configure these in System Settings -> desktop section -> desktop effects
[17:25] <SC0RP> ivan__: russian?
[17:25] <AltinT> JontheEchidna: well things like alt-shift-uparrow were not working for me before installing  compiz ... i'd just like to change these hotkeys, but i can't find them where you said they'd be :/
[17:26] <JontheEchidna> oh, so you are using compiz?
[17:26] <AltinT> yea
[17:26] <AltinT> it's active, but i can't find where to change the hotkeys
[17:26] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[17:26] <gustavonarea> kontact and kmail don't start in KDE 4.2 Beta 1 <http://paste.chrisarndt.de/paste/d1e41bbfadfc42b09a2f2bcf0cea57c2>. What can I do?
[17:27] <JontheEchidna> AltinT: maybe ccsm?
[17:27] <JontheEchidna> you might have better luck asking the compiz people though, I haven't used compiz in ages
[17:27] <JontheEchidna> !compiz
[17:28] <AltinT> ok, thanks for help :)
[17:28] <TimS> Nvidia detects my monitor as a CRT with a tiny resoultion
[17:29] <TimS> atm, I am using nVidia fine, its even got compositing, but onkly on 640x480!
[17:29] <chrismir> dhtr59rt
[17:29] <chrismir> fsck!
[17:30] <chrismir> note to self: Don't autostatrt konversation
[17:31]  * chrismir changed kwallet pass ;-)
[17:32] <birnisson> !search
[17:34] <asif_> bluthooth is not working with kbuntu 8.10, any idea how to make it work, was working fine in previous release?
[17:36] <thiago_> hry
[17:36] <thiago_> hey*
[17:36] <thiago_> hows everyone doing
[17:37] <thiago_> anyone know how to install google earth? cant find it in adept
[17:37] <White_Pelican> I think there is a bin file on the google site that you have to make execuable
[17:37] <White_Pelican> can't remember
[17:37] <White_Pelican> sorry
[17:38] <thiago_> ya i got that
[17:38] <thiago_> but then it asks me for an install path
[17:38] <thiago_> where should i install it
[17:38] <thiago_> so its generally where all other apps are
[17:38] <BluesKaj> thiago_, I think it's available in third party enabled repos on adept
[17:38] <White_Pelican> well how about putting it in opt?
[17:38] <thiago_> i dont an odd google earth folder somewhere in my os
[17:39] <thiago_> third party enabled repos?
[17:39] <BluesKaj> yes , open adept , click on sources edit sources, then third part software tab , enable them
[17:40] <thiago_> theres 3 of thme
[17:40] <BluesKaj> thirdy party
[17:40] <thiago_> just enable thme?
[17:40] <thiago_> i know
[17:40] <BluesKaj> yes
[17:40] <thiago_> allrite
[17:40] <thiago_> lets see
[17:41] <thiago_> no matches found for google earth
[17:41] <thiago_> =/
[17:41] <BluesKaj> try google-earth
[17:41] <thiago_> no success
[17:42] <BluesKaj> google ?
[17:42] <thiago_> haha
[17:42] <thiago_> just webapps for prism
[17:42] <thiago_> whats prims btw
[17:43] <BluesKaj> googleearth , thiago_
[17:43] <thiago_> nothing
[17:43] <BluesKaj> which OS ?
[17:44] <thiago_> kubuntu?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> version
[17:44] <thiago_> latest
[17:44] <thiago_> 8.10
[17:45] <TimS> BluesKaj: Proof that if you restart something enough times, it finally works.
[17:45] <thiago_> kde4
[17:45] <TimS> Its working :D
[17:46] <BluesKaj> no kidding TimS , the HALayer ...but I would go into settings/ hardware drivers and make sure you video card is the default (at the thr top of the list)
[17:47] <TimS> Where is that on kde4? I could never find it :/
[17:47] <BluesKaj> thiago_, post your sources.list on pastebin ...I think you need to add some more repos
[17:49] <BluesKaj> TimS, kmenu/applications/system/hardware drivers
[17:49] <TimS> Yeah, its selected as my driver there
[17:50] <BluesKaj> good, TimS , then you should be ok now
[17:51] <thiago_> k
[17:51] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | thiago_
[17:52] <thiago_> thanks
[17:53] <thiago_> BluesKaj
[17:53] <thiago_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85688/
[17:57] <BluesKaj> thiago_, your sources list is very small , check mine out , you might want to copy and paste some deb repos from it , http://paste.ubuntu.com/85691/
[17:58] <BluesKaj> then do a sudo apt -get update in the konsole
[17:58] <BluesKaj> err , sudo apt-get update in the konsole
[18:03] <thiago_> k
[18:04] <thiago_> nothing changed man
[18:04] <thiago_> still same sorces
[18:04] <thiago_> sources*
[18:09] <BluesKaj> thiago_, alt+f2 , type:  kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list , the paste into the text , SAVE , close and do sudo apt-get update
[18:15] <BluesKaj> thiago also put a # in fronto f the cdrom line , otherwise it won't see anything else listed in the text
[18:18] <thiago_> blue
[18:18] <thiago_> try this
[18:18] <thiago_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85698/
[18:20]  * TheMG thinks Spectek is that n00b.
[18:21] <BluesKaj> thiago_, like I said place # in front of the cdrom deb line otherwise it won't look at any other repos
[18:21] <BluesKaj> otherwise it loks good
[18:21] <BluesKaj> looks
[18:21] <Spectek> I am what noob?
[18:21]  * TheMG is :)
[18:23] <thiago_> # deb cdrom.......
[18:23] <thiago_> ?
[18:23] <thiago_> and save it?
[18:23] <BluesKaj> yes
[18:23] <thiago_> then  the update thing?
[18:23] <BluesKaj> now do a sudo apt-get update in the Konsole
[18:24] <BluesKaj> then open adept and look for googleearth
[18:24] <thiago_> k
[18:24] <thiago_> no mathes found
[18:25] <BluesKaj> or in the Konsole sudo apt-get install googleearth
[18:25] <wvmac> i think adept misses alot of packages that synaptic finds
[18:26] <luca_p> hi all..can anyone help me about network problems?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> wvmac, agreed
[18:26] <Novalgina2Fast> hi guys,do you know how i can improve my fps?with glxgears i do about 50 fps...
[18:26] <BluesKaj> thiago_, install synaptic and try to find googleearth there
[18:27] <thiago_> i got it installed
[18:27] <thiago_> konsole thing didnt work
[18:27] <thiago_> tried to find in synaptic
[18:27] <thiago_> nothing either
[18:27] <thiago_> :(
[18:28] <BluesKaj> wow ... weird
[18:30] <BluesKaj> thiago_, uncomment (take out the # on lines 28 & 29)  in your sources.list
[18:30] <BluesKaj> the # comment blocks the source from being read
[18:31] <BluesKaj> now, save it and update again
[18:32] <thiago_> can u find the package in adept or something?
[18:32] <thiago_> or am i alone
[18:33] <wvmac> thiago: did you install the mediaubuntu repository
[18:33] <thiago_> probably not
[18:33] <thiago_> how do i do that
[18:33] <BluesKaj> thiago_, did you uncomment those lines ?
[18:34] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | thiago_
[18:34] <wvmac> google earth is in that repository
[18:35] <BluesKaj> thiago_, I thought you had copied my sources.list from the pastebin post i put up for you .
[18:38] <thiago_> god im lost
[18:38] <thiago_> i will install medibuntu first ok blueskaj?
[18:40] <thiago_> do i type this on the konsole: sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/intrepid.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[18:41] <wvmac> thiago: yes
[18:41] <thiago_> that whole thing? with the --output bit?
[18:42] <wvmac> thiago: yes as one line
[18:42] <wvmac> just copy/paset
[18:43] <wvmac> thiago: same thing with the gpg key
[18:44] <thiago_> k
[18:44] <thiago_> i got an error though
[18:45] <BluesKaj> wvmac, i had all the pertinent repos in my sources.list that thiago_ needed ...those gpg keys don't always work and give false errors
[18:45] <wvmac> BluesKaj: oh, sorry. i hadn't seen the sources.list you posted
[18:45] <thiago_> this is after i did the key command
[18:45] <thiago_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85712/
[18:45] <thiago_> check the end please
[18:46] <thiago_> it says a lot of stuff couldnt be downloaded and etc
[18:46] <thiago_> BluesKaj
[18:46] <thiago_> sorrry i must have totally missed the post wehre u sent me ur sources.loist
[18:46] <thiago_> do u wanna send it agian?
[18:46] <thiago_> im so sorry
[18:46] <thiago_> im watching a movie atm
[18:46] <thiago_> so i must have missed the post
[18:47] <BluesKaj> thiago_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/85691/
[18:47] <wvmac> BluesKaj: is your sources.list loaed with good stuff?
[18:48] <BluesKaj> yup, i deleted the ppas cuz i'm running kde4.2 so ppl who are on kde 4.1 won't be adversly affected
[18:48] <thiago_> so all i gotta do is replace my sources.list with that one
[18:48] <thiago_> ?
[18:48] <BluesKaj> yes
[18:48] <wvmac> BluesKaj: that's nice of you
[18:48] <thiago_> anything i will miss out/problems i will have?
[18:49] <BluesKaj> don't think so
[18:49] <thiago_> ok
[18:49] <thiago_> can u send me the command to open the sources.list again please
[18:50] <BluesKaj> thiago_, alt+f2  kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:50] <BluesKaj> I prefer a text editor
[18:51] <BluesKaj> thiago_, don't forget to save it and then do the update in the Konsole
[18:51] <wvmac> BluesKaj: what is your favorite editor
[18:52] <BluesKaj> I like kate , but kwrite works well too ..if youa re cmnd line type , nano works well too
[18:52] <snikker> Can i detect if i've pressed ok or cancel button, even if kdialog menu is into a variable?  http://pastebin.com/d6e12c0fa
[18:53] <thiago_> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified becausethe public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[18:53] <thiago_> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[18:53] <thiago_> just this error
[18:53] <thiago_> when updating
[18:53] <BluesKaj> thiago_, ignore that error...it won't hurt anything
[18:54] <BluesKaj> the devs are bit behind with their keys
[18:54] <thiago_> still no googleearth in adept
[18:54] <thiago_> ;9
[18:55] <BluesKaj> try synaptic
[18:55] <Pici> thiago_: Per the wiki: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[18:55] <christaker> hello. how can i delete in a folder which have many subfolders , all .wav   files?
[18:55] <Pici> thiago_: You may be asked to accept this package even though it cannot be authenticated. This is normal; typing "Yes" means you trust Medibuntu.
[18:55] <BluesKaj> thiago_, did you do sudo apt-get update in the konsole?
[18:56] <Pici> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding%20the%20Repositories
[18:56] <thiago_> i did
[18:57] <BluesKaj> thiago_, you may have a case of rebootitis ...perhaps you need to reboot
[18:57] <thiago_> rebootitis
[18:58] <thiago_> haha
[18:58] <BluesKaj> sometimes that works , but don't ask me why
[18:58] <BluesKaj> :)
[18:59] <Salze> thiago_: What does apt-cache policy googleearth give?
[18:59] <thiago_> allright
[18:59] <thiago_> i really
[18:59] <thiago_> truly
[18:59] <thiago_> appreciate all the help
[18:59] <thiago_> but im getting lost here
[18:59] <thiago_> i installed medibuntu like Pici mentioned
[18:59] <thiago_> then updated
[18:59] <thiago_> all working
[19:00] <thiago_> no errors
[19:00] <thiago_> couple of new packages in adept
[19:00] <pablo> hello
[19:00] <thiago_> still no googleearth
[19:00] <JediatNight> hi all
[19:00] <thiago_> im gonna do what you asked now salza
[19:00] <thiago_> salze
[19:00] <JediatNight> i'm trying to enable nvidia x-server but it isn't enabled by default
[19:00] <JediatNight> i installed it through adept-packager
[19:00] <thiago_> thiago@tm-vaio:~$ apt-cache policy googleearth
[19:00] <Tm_T> !nvidia | JediatNight
[19:00] <thiago_> googleearth:
[19:00] <thiago_>   Installed: (none)
[19:00] <thiago_>   Candidate: 4.3.7284.3916-0medibuntu3
[19:01] <BluesKaj> thiago_, just try the word google in adept and synaptic
[19:01] <thiago_>   Version table:
[19:01] <thiago_>      4.3.7284.3916-0medibuntu3 0
[19:01] <thiago_>         500 http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid/non-free Packages
[19:01] <thiago_> salze check that
[19:01] <thiago_> i tried google blueskaj
[19:01] <thiago_> nothing in adept
[19:01] <JediatNight> Thanks Tm_T
[19:01] <nosrednaekim> JediatNight: try installing it through the hardware manager
[19:01] <thiago_> i will try in synpatic
[19:01] <Salze> thiago_: sudo apt-get install googleearth
[19:01] <d_mitry> sound worked in kde 3.5 and doesn't in 4.1. where to begin?
[19:01] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: !! hows it goin!
[19:01] <JediatNight> nosrednaekim: Yeah, i did . It isn't activated
[19:01] <nosrednaekim> JediatNight: activate it....
[19:01] <BluesKaj> hiyas nosrednaekim , LTNS!
[19:01] <Tm_T> d_mitry: see sound settings in KDE4, it uses Phonon so you can control it way more easily than before
[19:02] <JediatNight> nosrednaekim: the nvidia control panel says it isn't running
[19:02] <thiago_> i found it in synpatyic
[19:02] <thiago_> but the version was too old
[19:02] <thiago_> so i installed accoriding to salze
[19:02] <BluesKaj> 4.2?
[19:02] <thiago_> its working salze
[19:02] <thiago_> thank you
[19:02] <thiago_> but im mad at sometjhing
[19:02] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yeah, School sucks WAY too much time to still be involved with Kubuntu
[19:02] <JediatNight> nosrednaekim: I did install it eariler now . the computer hanges , everything is white on the screen
[19:02] <thiago_> why doesnt it show in adept
[19:02] <thiago_> ive had to install things through console too much
[19:02] <thiago_> it never shows on adept
[19:02] <thiago_> how come
[19:02] <nosrednaekim> JediatNight: what type of Nvidia card do you have?
[19:02] <Pici> !enter
[19:03] <JediatNight> nosrednaekim: 8400GS 512 MB
[19:03] <Salze> thiago_: googleearth seems to install 4.2. There is googleearth-4.3, too.
[19:03] <BluesKaj> thiago_, if you do the apt-get update it updates adept as well
[19:03] <BluesKaj> and synaptic
[19:03] <thiago_> i know
[19:03] <thiago_> what im saying is
[19:03] <thiago_> i want to install things thru adept
[19:04] <thiago_> the gui of adept
[19:04] <BluesKaj> yeah
[19:04] <thiago_> its annoying to keep having to install things through the konsole
[19:04] <thiago_> i dont get why the packages dont show up in adept
[19:04] <BluesKaj> adept doesn't find a lot of stuff that's available in synaptic and apt
[19:04] <nosrednaekim> JediatNight: ok, the defualt driver should work with that.... odd
[19:04] <Tm_T> interesting
[19:04] <Tm_T> thiago_: I never use adept, but that's me I guess
[19:04] <JediatNight> nosrednaekim: i thought the same
[19:05] <Tm_T> wajig <3
[19:05] <Salze> thiago_: It does show here in adept - although very late in the search results. I don't know why. I don't like the search funtion of adept, too.
[19:05] <nosrednaekim> JediatNight: the nv driver works fine.. just no 3d acceleration,right? oh, and thats not a mobile graphics chip is it?
[19:05] <d_mitry> Tm_T: well, after ticking "show advanced devices", i see pulseaudio (icon consists of a question mark) listed for audio output.
[19:05] <BluesKaj> thiago_, the Konsole is very precise and powerful, better than the package managers like adept
[19:06] <JediatNight> nosrednaekim: yeah , its a mobile graphic card
[19:06] <Tm_T> d_mitry: interesting, and would you like to use pulseaudio?
[19:06] <JediatNight> nosrednaekim: There is no 3d acceleration
[19:06] <Tm_T> d_mitry: or some other? you can choose what to use
[19:06] <JediatNight> nosrednaekim: I was about to edit the xorg.conf file
[19:06] <thiago_> how do i make adept show all packages then
[19:06] <thiago_> mine usuallyt never finds anything
[19:06] <thiago_> i dun get why
[19:06] <d_mitry> Tm_T: only thing listed there, so i can't have a list of preference. pulseaudio sounds good to me as long as it... gives me sound.
[19:06] <thiago_> i always have to come online to this channel to ask why certain things arent found
[19:07] <thiago_> and how to install them
[19:07] <thiago_> i dunno keep doing that
[19:07] <thiago_> dunt wanna*
[19:07] <Tm_T> d_mitry: interesting...
[19:07] <nosrednaekim> JediatNight: google your laptop modle and see if anyone has a workaround
[19:07] <nosrednaekim> !laptop
[19:07] <JediatNight> nosrednaekim: I'm doing it right now
[19:08] <d_mitry> Tm_T: well?
[19:08] <nosrednaekim> thiago_: you can always just install synaptic... that will fix the package manager problem for you
[19:08] <nosrednaekim> its what I do
[19:12] <Lektroluv> which channel should I join to get help on compiling c++ code?
[19:13] <nosrednaekim> Lektroluv: possibly #c++
[19:15] <nuvias> how to login root on Kubuntu?
[19:15] <Pici> !sudo | nuvias
[19:16] <nuvias> aha but how do i explore folders as a root?
[19:16] <laurent_> hi
[19:16] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, he's got synaptic installed
[19:16] <laurent_> i'm new here
[19:16] <BluesKaj> nuvias, sudo -s or sudo su
[19:16] <elliottm> is there a package with a firefox plugin that will play audio embedded in pages?
[19:16] <nuvias> kk
[19:16] <nuvias> thx
[19:17] <laurent_> are you from states
[19:18] <elliottm> a quick serch doesn't turn up anything made for KDE. there's totem, but it looks like i'd have to install a bunch of gnome stuff to use it, which i want to avoid
[19:18] <pablo> hola
[19:18] <nosrednaekim> elliottm: mplayer can do it I belive
[19:18] <laurent_> what ?
[19:19] <nosrednaekim> !mplayer
[19:19] <laurent_> i've a bad english
[19:19] <BluesKaj> elliottm, type  : about:plugins in the firefox addressbar..see what media plugins you have
[19:19] <laurent_> i come from france
[19:20] <thiago_> god googleearth is crap in kubuntu
[19:20] <thiago_> or is it somnething i should have installed
[19:20] <thiago_> before using it?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> what graphics card thiago_ ?
[19:20] <nosrednaekim> thiago_: with no 3d acceleration, yeah of course its going to be bad
[19:20] <elliottm> BluesKaj: gcj, flash, some demo print thing, and a default plugin
[19:21] <thiago_> i got nvidia 7400
[19:21] <thiago_> or something
[19:21] <thiago_> i forgot
[19:21] <nosrednaekim> elliottm: install mozilla-mplayer
[19:21] <thiago_> ir runs good in windows though
[19:21] <BluesKaj> elliottm, install flashplugin-nonfree  for one
[19:21] <nosrednaekim> thiago_: oops, sorry, I got you confused with someone else
[19:21] <wvmac> thiago: are you using desktop effects
[19:21] <nosrednaekim> lol, I'm acting like such a n00b
[19:21] <elliottm> BluesKaj: it's broken in hardy so i had to do it manually
[19:23] <BluesKaj> elliottm, have you kept up your updates in hardy , cuz there were plugin issues when it was first released
[19:23] <elliottm> BluesKaj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/304969
[19:24] <JediatNight> nosrednaekim: My taskbar disppeared and everything is jumbled in the task panel
[19:24] <thiago_> how do i know if im uisng desktop effects?
[19:25] <BluesKaj> elliottm, hmmm i hope you didn't install flashplayer 9 seperately