[14:05] <Havenstance> TJ-, I just need something to give an idea of what to do. not so much physical instructions
[14:05] <Havenstance> one thing i've learned with linux is what works for me probably won't for you
[14:05] <bumbar> so, i've just upgraded to 13.10 and found out that gedit session saver plugin has been dropped
[14:06] <mzaza> I am installing android studio, where should I move the extracted file? To which directory?
[14:06] <bumbar> apperently it's been broken, yet it  worked flawlessly - any good reasoning?
[14:07] <potjak> bumbar: write a letter of protest.
[14:09] <Shunderpooch> #WWPI
[14:10] <ilhami> how to execute a .bin file?
[14:10] <ilhami> I did chmod -x on it
[14:11] <Pici> ilhami: that would remove the executable bit.  You likely want to chmod +x whatever.bin
[14:11] <ilhami> Yeah I did that
[14:11] <ilhami> oh
[14:11] <ilhami> it is +
[14:12] <draco_> Hi, I just ran out of solutions and I am hoping somebody can give me clues on mounting windows shares, I can mount a specific share for a single user but we have multiple users on each computer.  My goal is to have all windows computers running Ubuntu instead of M$ and until I can figure this out it will not be possible, any help is greatly appreciated!
[14:12] <ilhami> what do I do after Pici ?
[14:12] <Pici> ilhami: do ./whatever.bin
[14:12] <ilhami> ok let me try
[14:13] <ilhami> it says no such file or dir
[14:13] <Rory> ilhami: Did you just type "./whatever.bin" or did you type the actual location of the .bin file?
[14:13] <ActionPa1snip> draco_: if you set the group owner to 'users' or some group which the users are in, you can give that group access.
[14:13] <Havenstance> ilhami, make sure you cd to the dir the file is in then execute ./whatever.bin
[14:14] <ilhami> I am in the folder where the .bin file is now
[14:14] <ilhami> yeah I did
[14:14] <Havenstance> try ./path/to/whatever.bin
[14:14] <Rory> ilhami: What is the output of the command: "file filename.bin" (replace "filename.bin") with the actual path
[14:14] <kjs> I am attempting to install libgtest-dev on an amd64 box, now this installs only the source then I build the libs using apt-get install libgtest-dev then cd /usr/src/gtest && cmake CMakeLists.txt && make ** cp *.a /usr/lib this works fine for amd64 but is there a way to build for i386 on amd64 ?
[14:15] <TJ-> ilhami: is the file-system mounted without exec permissions?
[14:15] <Pici> ilhami: remember that filenames are case-sensitive too]
[14:15] <ilhami> dude I used the tab
[14:15] <ilhami> it has nothing to do with I typed it wrong
[14:15] <Pici> dude, we aren't psychic
[14:16] <Rory> ilhami: What does it say for "file filename.bin"
[14:16] <Havenstance> put sudo in front of the ./ command it may require root to run
[14:16] <Rory> I'm calling that it's a 32-bit executable on a 64-bit system or vice versa
[14:16] <ilhami> It's in a virtual machine. :D I cannot copy it but it says ELF 32-bit executable
[14:16] <ilhami> and something more
[14:17] <ilhami> dynamically linked
[14:17] <Rory> ilhami: What's the output of "uname -p"
[14:17] <TJ-> ilhami: And the VM is a 32-bit install ?
[14:17] <ilhami> aaaaah that may be why
[14:17] <ilhami> Its a 64 bit VM
[14:17] <Rory> I win
[14:17] <ilhami> and the file may be 32 bit
[14:17] <Pici> !cookie | Rory
[14:18] <ActionPa1snip> ilhami: how much RAM is in the VM?
[14:18] <jasabelle> argh
[14:18] <ilhami> 1024 ActionPa1snip
[14:18] <mzaza> I am installing android studio, where should I move the extracted file? To which directory?
[14:18] <ActionPa1snip> ilhami: and what is the system used for?
[14:18] <ilhami> Its Ubuntu Server
[14:18] <TJ-> 64-bit install should execute (or being to, even with missing libraries) a 32-bit executable
[14:19] <TJ-> s/being/begin/
[14:19] <ilhami> well it doesn't. :)
[14:19] <ActionPa1snip> ilhami: ok, what sort of server?
[14:19] <draco_> ActionPalsnip, thanks for the reply, my main problem is trying to figure out this: We have several File servers, hundreds of users, depending on the group they are they get different shares from different servers, I can do a single user per station, not a problem but then if another user logs in, the shares that the previous user had open will be available for the other users.
[14:19] <ilhami> It's a server which contains another server basically
[14:19] <ilhami> I want to install Oracle Web Logic
[14:19] <ilhami> server
[14:19] <ilhami> on it
[14:19] <ilhami> and is going to host a database as well
[14:19] <TJ-> ilhami: which version of Ubuntu is in the VM?
[14:19] <ilhami> 12.04
[14:19] <ilhami> LTS
[14:20] <ActionPa1snip> ilhami: ahh 64bit makes sense then :)
[14:20] <TJ-> ilhami: "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs"
[14:20] <ilhami> TJ- what does that do?
[14:21] <TJ-> ilhami: installs the 32-bit support libraries, including binutils:i386, which will then recognise that 32-bit executable
[14:22] <ilhami> Thanks
[14:22] <ilhami> will try it
[14:22] <ilhami> gotta go home bye
[14:22] <OerHeks> mzaza, see the manual, domewhere to your /home/  folder >>> http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio.html
[14:34] <vegantomato> test
[14:35] <gischy> why cant i nmap my local lan ip and get results? i just get as result host is up
[14:37] <OerHeks> gischy, sounds like host is up, and ports are closed
[14:37] <gischy> if i scan nmap localhost i get open ports as result
[14:38] <gischy> if i scan namp <IP_ADDRESS> i just get host is up
[14:39] <OerHeks> when i scan my localhost, the only port i see open is 631 = cups
[14:39] <chillibite> i've installed ubuntu on to a laptop that had windows 8 pre installed (hp 255). when i boot up i have to choose ubuntu, then i get an error, finnaly get into the bios, f9 choose, then the ubuntu boot screen
[14:39] <chillibite> how can i remove the windows partition and just boot directly into ubuntu every time
[14:40] <chillibite> it used to be easy on my last laptop, this one has a different bios, almost like at first it isn't the bios
[14:40] <chillibite> never seen anything like this before
[14:40] <OerHeks> chillibite, sounds like a UEFI issue
[14:40] <OerHeks> !uefi
[14:41] <chillibite> OerHeks: thanks
[14:41] <Teltariat> Hello all.  What's the best way to run automated package building and a private repository in Ubuntu, basically a PPA ?
[14:41] <gischy> OerHeks: yeah and now try to scan your local lan ip
[14:42] <OerHeks> gischy, then all ports are closed, the message is more than 1 line
[14:46] <chillibite> is it possible to remove uefi completely
[14:48] <potjak> chillibite: what!!!!!!!!!
[14:49] <TJ-> chillibite: It sounds more-like you simply need to correct the EFI firmware menu entry for Ubuntu/GRUB... when Ubuntu installs on EFI it used 'efibootmgr' to add the menu-entry to the EFI's menu saved in non-volatile memory
[14:51] <chillibite> TJ-: i am lost it used to be so simple to boot into ubuntu
[14:51] <chillibite> now i have to get an error, get into the bios, then the ubuntu login
[14:52] <chillibite> maybe it doesn't matter, at least i can log on to my computer
[14:52] <dyu> what's the python version for the next LTS?
[14:52] <TJ-> chillibite: The sequence is UEFI -> "read menu entries" -> "select default" > [boot-disk]/{GPT-partition-type-0xEF00}/EFI/{grub-boot-loader}.efi > [grub-root-disk]/{grub-root}/efi/{core.img} > "grub.cfg" > linux+initrd > execute
[14:53] <chillibite> let me give that a shot then
[14:53] <Pici> dyu: looks like 2.7.5 and 3.4 (rc1 at the moment)
[14:54] <dyu> what's the proper way to install 2.7.6 on 12.04?
[14:57] <Guest85815> Is JackD tend to burn more CPU than PulseAudio ?
[14:59] <helmut_> hi
[15:01] <Walex> Guest21041:bizarre question
[15:07] <browndawg> Hey. How do I remove an entry from grub2, an autodetected OS?
[15:07] <browndawg> Renaming will be fine too.
[15:07] <browndawg> I'm on 12.04
[15:07] <browndawg> Not that it matters.
[15:08] <tcpsyn> browndawg: look at the files in /etc/grub
[15:08] <tcpsyn> that's what generates grub.cfg
[15:08] <browndawg> tcpsyn: Auto detected OS?
[15:08] <tcpsyn> yep
[15:08] <browndawg> tcpsyn: will have an entry there?
[15:08] <SuperBawlz> When I updated Ubuntu it screwed my Apache up in some way. Any solutions?
[15:08] <tcpsyn> It will have the autodetect logic
[15:08] <tcpsyn> that you can either disable, or modify
[15:09] <tcpsyn> SuperBawlz: define 'some way'
[15:09] <browndawg> I don't want to mess with that!
[15:09] <SuperBawlz> http://pastebin.com/pezmRBfH
[15:09] <tcpsyn> browndawg: well then your hosed.
[15:09] <browndawg> don't want to mess with OS prober
[15:09] <tcpsyn> because that's where it is.
[15:09] <shubhamjain> When I am doing hexdump or a binary file I am getting different output than it is shown in sublime text's hex. And I am sure the latter is correct.
[15:10] <SuperBawlz> I also keep getting this error
[15:10] <SuperBawlz> Error
[15:10] <SuperBawlz> Not Found: vhost: <IP_ADDRESS> /
[15:11] <tcpsyn> SuperBawlz: something else is already running on port 80
[15:11] <SuperBawlz> how would I find that?
[15:12] <tcpsyn> SuperBawlz: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/what-process-has-open-linux-port/
[15:12] <browndawg> anyone with some actual insight?
[15:12] <vanishing> SuperBawlz:
[15:12] <tcpsyn> browndawg: you're a retard.
[15:12] <SuperBawlz> what the crap is tntnet
[15:12] <tcpsyn> I just told you
[15:12] <vanishing> SuperBawlz:sudo netstat -tulpn | grep 80 | awk ' { print ( $(NF) ) }'
[15:13] <browndawg> tcpsyn: said the guy who responded to "delete a bootloader entry" with "modify os-prober"
[15:13] <tcpsyn> browndawg: said the guy that told you how grub2 works, and I didn't tell you to delete anything, I told you to disable.
[15:14] <tcpsyn> that's how it works, period.
[15:14] <chillibite> when i turn my computer on i get 1) windows boot manager (ubtuntu is the default OS (i used an installer on the ubuntu dvd in windows to get it there) ubuntu 2) windows boot manager failure (windows failed to boot (even though i was booting into ubuntu and that is the default in the windows boot manager 3) startup menu (bios) 4) f9 boot device options (i have to choose the second ubuntu partition) 5) gnu grub (choose ubuntu) 7) ubuntu
[15:14] <chillibite> login screen
[15:14] <SuperBawlz> fixes it.
[15:14] <SuperBawlz> what the crap is tntnet?
[15:14] <niel> where can I tell what nvidia drivers I need for a 765m
[15:14] <tcpsyn> SuperBawlz: http://www.tntnet.org/
[15:14] <chillibite> so i think it might be the ubuntu installer i used in windows to have ubuntu as an option in the windows boot manager?
[15:14] <tcpsyn> maybe look?
[15:14] <tcpsyn> jesus, whats up with you guys.
[15:14] <browndawg> tcpsyn: I know how it works.
[15:15] <browndawg> Anyone with some other way
[15:15] <browndawg> ?
[15:15] <tcpsyn> browndawg: clearly you don't.
[15:15] <browndawg> tcpsyn: haha, okay
[15:15] <tcpsyn> there is no other way because THATS THE WAY IT WORKS.
[15:15] <vanishing> browndawg: do you want it to be temporary?
[15:15] <SuperBawlz> I just removed the piece of shit.
[15:16] <SuperBawlz> I didn't ask for that, it must have come in on the update.
[15:16] <tcpsyn> probably a dependency of something else
[15:16] <OerHeks> Please, watch your language and keep this channel family-friendly, thanks.
[15:17] <tcpsyn> OerHeks: for benefit of all the families in #ubuntu?
[15:17] <IdleOne> tcpsyn: for the benefit of all in the channel.
[15:18] <tcpsyn> bubblegum, lolipops.
[15:18] <tcpsyn> unicorns.
[15:18] <SuperBawlz> I would like to see what he types when he loses several days to someone's slack crapware.
[15:18] <jeevanus> hi, in my system sudenly network connectivity stopped working
[15:19] <SuperBawlz> Thank you tons guys!!!
[15:19] <jeevanus> it is trying to connect, but not going through
[15:19] <jeevanus> i am using wired connection
[15:19] <vanishing> you mean your wifi stopped working..
[15:19] <tcpsyn> do you have an ip address?
[15:19] <jeevanus> can some one please help?
[15:20] <jeevanus> tcpsyn: its not connecting, so how ip|
[15:20] <jeevanus> ip*?
[15:20] <tcpsyn> ifconfig -a
[15:20] <vanishing> ^paste in pastebin
[15:20] <jeevanus> vanishing: not wifi, wired connection
[15:20] <vanishing> you said you are using wired connection...
[15:21] <jeevanus> im using friend system now as my system isn't connected to the network and hence the internet
[15:21] <vanishing> how can it be broken if you are still using it....
[15:21] <vanishing> oh..
[15:21] <niel> https://www.dropbox.com/s/677wxg7hym2u319/Screenshot%20from%202014-03-18%2008%3A17%3A50.png nvidia 765m does something look wrong?
[15:21] <TJ-> browndawg: Add "GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true" to "/etc/default/grub" and it won't run the os-prober to detect alternative OSs. If you want some detected but not others you'll have to manually edit "/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[15:22] <vanishing> this browndawg..
[15:22] <tcpsyn> if you manually edit grub.cfg it'll regenerate next time update-grub runs. Don't do that.
[15:22] <TJ-> Someone is flooding his client
[15:23] <jeevanus> vanishing: please help me to connect to my network
[15:23] <tcpsyn> jeevanus: did you post the output of ifconfig -a like we asked?
[15:23] <vanishing> jeevanus: for that...you will have to be on your box....
[15:24] <p1l0t> How can something be using a port with no PID? tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:80              <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN      -
[15:24] <chillibite> TJ-: what you said earlier, where do i find that ( UEFI -> read menu entries )
[15:24] <chillibite> etc
[15:24] <vanishing> there are several places to look..ifconfig, /etc/resolve.conf etc etc
[15:24] <TJ-> tcpsyn: Obviously, but if the system doesn't have new kernels added too regularly it's not a big issue to run an awk script against the generated grub.cfg to remove individual stanzas
[15:24] <TJ-> chillibite: I was explaining the boot process to you; that's how it works, so you can understand better why you're seeing the error
[15:25] <jeevanus> its in another system, i ll try to bring it here and paste it, ifconfig is showing as usual one
[15:25] <vanishing> brb..leaving for lunch
[15:25] <tcpsyn> chillibite: fuser 80/tcp
[15:25] <chillibite> TJ-: where can i fix the problem, because i think it with the windows installer i used from the ubuntu disk
[15:25] <vanishing> jeevanus: ask tcpsyn in the mean time :)
[15:25] <p1l0t> I cannot start apache2 because port 80 is already in use but there is no PID listed for ever is using this port...
[15:25] <chillibite> the windows installer puts ubuntu in the windows boot manager
[15:25] <tcpsyn> p1l0t: fuser 80/tcp
[15:25] <TJ-> chillibite: Windows installer? do you mean you used WUBI?
[15:26] <chillibite> TJ-: i think so
[15:26] <TJ-> chillibite: OK, I've not used wubi myself so can't help you there
[15:26] <chillibite> ubuntu has it's own partition, but there was something for the meny
[15:26] <chillibite> menu
[15:26] <sudormrf> hey guys.  can someone help me change my login and lock screen wallpapers using gnome fallback?
[15:26] <chillibite> TJ-: thanks for the effort
[15:26] <p1l0t> tcpsyn: nothing happens
[15:26] <anonymous_> hi
[15:26] <anonymous_> hi
[15:26] <anonymous_> hi
[15:26] <anonymous_> hi
[15:27] <sweb> is there any cli tools for get metadata of fonts like ttf and otf ?
[15:27] <Pici> anonymous_: thats enough, hi.
[15:27] <tcpsyn> p1l0t: can you telnet to localhost 80?
[15:28] <jeevanus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7114614/
[15:28] <tcpsyn> maybe it's just open in TIME_WAIT because the process recently died.
[15:28] <sydney> anonymous: hello
[15:28] <p1l0t> tcpsyn: could not resolve
[15:28] <tcpsyn> jeevanus: you don't have an ip address
[15:28] <anonymous_> hi
[15:28] <tcpsyn> p1l0t: then telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 80
[15:28] <chillibite> wubuntu isn't ubuntu inside of windows, like a virtual machine is it?
[15:29] <tcpsyn> jeevanus: try dhclient eth0
[15:29] <jeevanus> ok
[15:29] <somsip> !info otfinfo
[15:29] <p1l0t> tcpsyn: oh was using <IP_ADDRESS>:80 instead of <IP_ADDRESS> 80 it's just blank so far
[15:29] <tcpsyn> but it does connect, so something is on that port
[15:29] <p1l0t> tcpsyn: actually yes it is connected
[15:30] <somsip> !find otfinfo | sweb
[15:30] <p1l0t> tcpsyn: Connected to <IP_ADDRESS>.
[15:30] <p1l0t> Escape character is '^]'.
[15:30] <jeevanus> tcpsyn: i think its a problem with my wire(cable), other cable is working, thank u
[15:30] <OerHeks> !find otfinfo
[15:30] <TJ-> p1l0t: "GET / HTTP/1.0" Enter Enter
[15:30] <somsip> sweb: could be helpful? manpage suggests it does something like what you're asking for http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/otfinfo.1.html
[15:31] <tcpsyn> p1l0t: are you executing netstat as root?
[15:31] <tcpsyn> if you're not root, no pid
[15:31] <Havenstance> what is the command to display the ip of the local machine again?
[15:31] <tcpsyn> Havenstance: ip add
[15:31] <Pici> Havenstance: ip addr
[15:31] <Havenstance> ty
[15:32] <p1l0t> tcpsyn: oh yes this why haha use the sudo I must
[15:32] <sudormrf> using gnome shell 3.4.2
[15:33] <chillibite> what is wubi so that's why i have to go through the bios
[15:33] <chillibite> instead of the windows boot manager, it turns out
[15:33] <sydney> Why does ubuntu sometimes say "the drive for tmp is not ready yet"?
[15:33] <chillibite> now it would be nice if there was info about that on the ubuntu dvd
[15:33] <k1l> chillibite: dont use wubi. make a real install. or use a live-cd/usb if you want to try
[15:34] <sweb> somsip: FATAL: otfinfo.c:158: Assertion `reader' failed
[15:34] <somsip> chillibite: This has lots of info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[15:34] <d4rkt1m3s> yeah, wubi is pretty much useless anyways.
[15:34] <somsip> sweb: I've got no idea about it other than just finding it on a search to try to help you. Sorry
[15:34] <sweb> somsip: another packager ?
[15:35] <sydney> Wubi is awful,I was not able to get it to work at all!!
[15:35] <sweb> package*
[15:35] <somsip> sweb: the bot suggests "otfinfo found in lcdf-typetools, otf-trace" but I'd imagine they would be the same
[15:36] <bananapie> join #ubuntu-server
[15:37] <chillibite> i am going to have to back everything up and start over :(
[15:38] <sydney> Why does ubuntu sometimes say"drive for temp is not yet ready: when starting up?
[15:39] <tcpsyn> because the drive that has /tmp on it isn't ready yet...
[15:39] <sydney> what is it doing though; is it empptying it?
[15:39] <tcpsyn> depends on how you have it configured, it's trying to mount it.
[15:40] <sydney> Oh
[15:40] <tcpsyn> look at etc/fstab
[15:40] <tcpsyn> and see how you've got /tmp configured
[15:40] <d4rkt1m3s> why would you have more than one partition for your system? (other than having a separate /home partition, which is fine IMO)
[15:40] <tcpsyn> d4rkt1m3s: to keep system files and data files seperate is one reason.
[15:41] <d4rkt1m3s> a pointless endeavour.
[15:41] <tcpsyn> d4rkt1m3s: to prevent files on one partition from taking up the full disk..
[15:41] <tcpsyn> d4rkt1m3s: not at all
[15:41] <j0lz> hi - i want to run a ruby script on my server where should i place the script ... this is what the start of the script looks like #!/usr/bin/env ruby
[15:41] <TJ-> d4rkt1m3s: To provide flexibility
[15:41] <tcpsyn> d4rkt1m3s: a wise endevour.
[15:41] <d4rkt1m3s> how is it wise?
[15:41] <d4rkt1m3s> to me, it just seems inconvenient.
[15:42] <p1l0t> So when I start apache2 manually with the SSL password its fine but the boot on startup isn't working right. I imagine that I need to have this password in a credentials file somewhere and call it on startup?
[15:42] <tcpsyn> what if you want to back up just your data partition, onto an image? or if you want to reinstall a different os without wiping your home directory.
[15:42] <tcpsyn> d4rkt1m3s: there are several reasons, you just may not need them.
[15:42] <tcpsyn> which is why you have the option
[15:42] <d4rkt1m3s> tcpsyn: I can see reinstalling a different os without wiping your home dir.
[15:42] <TJ-> d4rkt1m3s: encryption is often a reason
[15:42] <tcpsyn> encryption is a good reson.
[15:43] <d4rkt1m3s> fair enough.
[15:43] <tcpsyn> lots of reasons.
[15:44] <niel> for a 765m what nvidia drivers do I need?
[15:45] <JoeQuery> Hello there! I'm currently logged in to an ubuntu server vm, and whenever I click my mouse, characters such as [[M#mA are sent to my prompt. The specific values seem to change based on where my mouse is on the screen. It's preventing me from selecting text in my terminal for copying/pasting.
[15:45] <tcpsyn> the ones nvidia recommends for a 765m.
[15:45] <JoeQuery> Is there a way I can prevent this behavior? This seems to be recent.
[15:45] <niel> well I need it from the repo
[15:45] <niel> so
[15:45] <niel> for bumblebee
[15:45] <tcpsyn> I'd ask the bumblebee guys about that.
[15:46] <niel> trying the 331
[15:46] <niel> no answer
[15:46] <tcpsyn> that's a different animal.
[15:46] <shlant> anyone familiar with snmp? Is there a default for load monitoring?
[15:46] <grousey>
[15:46] <grousey> JoeQuery: what are you using to connect?
[15:46] <JoeQuery> grousey: iterm2 is my terminal program, connecting to a virtualbox vm via vagrant
[15:47] <tcpsyn> shlant: don't think theres anything default about snmp. I've always had to snmpwalk devices and piece it together.
[15:47] <JoeQuery> grousey: Clicking my mouse in a standard OS X terminal does not send these characters to the prompt.
[15:47] <j0lz> hi - how do I run a ruby script at startup
[15:48] <tcpsyn> j0lz: call it in /etc/rc.local
[15:49] <j0lz> tcpsyn, do I just paste the entire script in there or put the script elsewhere and point to it?
[15:49] <JoeQuery> Huh, strange. I just restarted iterm and that worked. Alrighty then.
[15:50] <tcpsyn> j0lz: put it elsewhere and call it from there.
[15:50] <j0lz> tcpsyn, ok does it need any special permissions?
[15:50] <tcpsyn> j0lz: needs to be executable
[15:51] <tcpsyn> unless you're calling it with python... like /usr/bin/python /path/to/myscript.pl
[15:51] <j0lz> tcpsyn, chmod +x ... is that okay with appamor?
[15:51] <tcpsyn> yeah, that's fine
[16:09] <giraffe1> hi
[16:13] <SuperLag> What is Ubuntu One good for? is it primarily for syncing media between machines? or does it keep package/config info in sync, as well?
[16:14] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, cloud storage of selected files.
[16:14] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, I suppose one could store package and config info as well but --- why?
[16:15] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: I have two machines that I want to keep as identical as possible. I don't care about media, as I stream everything.
[16:17] <usr13> SuperLag: Not sure that cloud storage would be of any use in keeping installed packages the same on two systems.
[16:17] <SuperLag> usr13: that's exactly why I asked the question. I wasn't sure.
[16:18] <usr13> SuperLag: So I would say that you are correct if you suspect that it would be of no use for this particular issue
[16:23] <PreK> can I change locale of ubuntu anytime ?
[16:23] <ActionPa1snip> PreK: sure
[16:24] <PreK> TY
[16:24] <PreK> just edit locale file right?
[16:24] <xxx600> مرحبا
[16:32] <usr13> PreK: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale/
[16:38] <pirulo> hi, I need help with something... I want to right click a file and have the option to open it with a custom script I made... how can I achieve this ?
[16:38] <HoNgOuRu> hi, I need help with something... I want to right click a file and have the option to open it with a custom script I made... how can I achieve this ?
[16:44] <ilhami> how to start ssh server?
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> ilhami  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[16:47] <ilhami> dude I could in school
[16:47] <ilhami> I can't at home? :S
[16:47] <Rory> ilhami: Once you've installed the openssh-server package, it will start automatically at boot, or you can start it manually with the command "sudo service ssh start"
[16:47] <ilhami> yeah I did.
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> ilhami  i missed that part in your question, "dude"
[16:47] <HoNgOuRu> hi, I need help with something... I want to right click a file and have the option to open it with a custom script I made... how can I achieve this ?
[16:47] <ilhami> but I still can't connect to it
[16:48] <ilhami> it's so weird.
[16:48] <Rory> ilhami: Can you connect to it locally (be on the machine running the ssh server, then run "ssh localhost" )
[16:48] <ilhami> I am trying to connect to my VM
[16:48] <ilhami> :D
[16:48] <ilhami> from Windows to Ubuntu Server
[16:49] <ilhami> with Putty
[16:49] <Blizzz> Could the change of a product ID make libmtp not work properly with the device? https://together.jolla.com/question/34046/mtp-does-not-work-with-10420-ohijarvi-and-kubuntu-1310/
[16:49] <Rory> ilhami: I understand that, could you answer my question?
[16:49] <ilhami> let me try with Localhost
[16:49] <Rory> ilhami: Make sure you are on the machine you are trying to connect to
[16:49] <Rory> ilhami: I am trying to establish here whether it is a problem with the ssh server, or a problem with network connectivity
[16:50] <ilhami> It's probably network connectivity
[16:50] <ilhami> my server is started
[16:50] <marianne> Hi guys, not a good morning, I did the software updates this morning and totally hosed everything couldn't even get to terminal... ended up reinstalling
[16:51] <Rory> ilhami: Are you sitting at the computer you're trying to connect to? Your virtual machine?
[16:51] <ilhami> YES
[16:51] <ilhami> it's on this computer
[16:51] <ilhami> same computer
[16:51] <Rory> What have you done so far, in order to set up this ssh server?
[16:52] <ilhami> It is setup correctly. I did it in school
[16:52] <Rory> How did you connect to it in school?
[16:52] <marianne> So my error was "System tray not found quitting" couldn't get anythere on the screen, it was just dead... anyone have any idea how something like that happens and what the fix is (for future reference_
[16:52] <ilhami> some dude from my class could connect to it with the IP
[16:52] <Rory> ilhami: Was he in the same class?
[16:52] <Rory> ilhami: On the same network?
[16:52] <ilhami> can I try with another port?
[16:52] <ilhami> yes same network
[16:53] <Rory> ilhami: Okay, and where are you trying to connect from now?
[16:53] <ilhami> from my home
[16:53] <tcpsyn> ilhami: ps -ef | grep ssh
[16:53] <ilhami> dude I cannot copy from this VM. It sucks :D
[16:53] <ilhami> I cannot copy from that to Windows
[16:53] <ilhami> 8.1
[16:53] <aliwdj> HELLO, which version of Java should I install on a server
[16:53] <tcpsyn> it's 12 characters, type it
[16:53] <ilhami> ok let me try
[16:54] <aliwdj> what is the recommended version of java?
[16:54] <Rory> ilhami: I refuse to help you until you confirm whether you can "ssh localhost" on the target server, because I think you're being deliberately difficult (aka troll)
[16:54] <aliwdj> I have heard java has some exploits
[16:54] <aliwdj> etc
[16:54] <ilhami> Rory: I could!!!!
[16:54] <ilhami> I did try
[16:54] <aliwdj> so what should I install on a Ubuntu machine
[16:54] <ilhami> before when you asked
[16:54] <HoNgOuRu> how do I add a mime type for all files ?
[16:54] <aliwdj> * default-jre * gcj-4.6-jre-headless * openjdk-6-jre-headless * gcj-4.5-jre-headless * openjdk-7-jre-headless
[16:54] <aliwdj> these are my options
[16:54] <HoNgOuRu> no matter wich type of file nor extension...
[16:54] <ilhami> do you think I said it was a connectivity problem for fun?
[16:54] <aliwdj> which one should I install?
[16:54] <tcpsyn> if you can ssh localhost, but not from elsewhere, you've got a firewall blocking you.
[16:54] <HoNgOuRu> I want to have an option to open with for all files
[16:55] <aliwdj> Hello?
[16:55] <ilhami> tcpsyn: you know what the funny part is?
[16:55] <tcpsyn> none of it is really that funny...
[16:55] <ilhami> I have before been able to do it. :)
[16:55] <aliwdj> is this ubuntu support channel?
[16:55] <ilhami> from another laptop
[16:55] <daftykins> aliwdj: depends what java application you want to run
[16:55] <daftykins> !patience | aliwdj
[16:55] <ilhami> also at home.
[16:55] <tcpsyn> aliwdj: yes, not a java support channel.
[16:56] <aliwdj> daftykins, what is the difference between those versions?
[16:56] <ilhami> It's probably the port which is blocked, tcpsyn ?
[16:56] <tcpsyn> aliwdj: the correct version is the version you need to support whatever application you need it for.
[16:56] <tcpsyn> ilhami: 22
[16:56] <ilhami> yes I think it is blocked
[16:56] <ilhami> It may be.
[16:56] <tcpsyn> there you are
[16:56] <aliwdj> tcpsyn, is there a difference security wise?
[16:56] <ilhami> can I change it to 2222?
[16:56] <Rory> ilhami: Okay. Can you run the command "ifconfig" and look for the server's IP address? It will say "inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>" or similar
[16:56] <HoNgOuRu> can anybody help ? I want to have the option lets say.. "open with myscript" for all type of files... is it possible ?
[16:56] <tcpsyn> aliwdj: it's all a security mess.
[16:56] <ilhami> Rory: 2 sec.
[16:56] <Rory> ilhami: Then, put that IP address into PuTTY to connect to the server
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> ilhami  have you asked your school's assistance?
[16:57] <ilhami> MonkeyDust nope?
[16:57] <daftykins> HoNgOuRu: please stop repeating, you've been asking constantly and body's replied - obviously it means nobody knows
[16:57] <daftykins> *nobody's
[16:57] <tcpsyn> ilhami: generally, people change it to 443, which is generally allowed through firewalls.
[16:58] <tcpsyn> ilhami: if you're not running something on 443, I'd suggest using that.
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> ilhami  does your school allow what you are trying to do?
[16:58] <ilhami> is it <IP_ADDRESS>?
[16:58] <ilhami> yes it does
[16:58] <ilhami> it doesnt work with that IP
[16:58] <tcpsyn> ....
[16:58] <ilhami> ifconfig gives me that
[16:58] <tcpsyn> heh.
[16:59] <tcpsyn> you got a network issue man.
[16:59] <ilhami> why?
[16:59] <tcpsyn> that's not a routable ip address
[16:59] <daftykins> 169 is an APIPA address
[16:59] <Rory> ilhami: If it's in a VM it probably isn't on the actual network your Windows PC is connected to
[16:59] <daftykins> it's issued when no DHCP server is contacted
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> ilhami  that's why you should ask your schools assistance
[16:59] <ilhami> my internet is through my mothers workplace.
[16:59] <ilhami> my internet at home
[16:59] <ilhami> I am not at school now MonkeyDust
[17:00] <Rory> ilhami: Are you using Virtualbox?
[17:00] <ilhami> Rory: it's the same laptop
[17:00] <ilhami> No Hyper-V
[17:00] <ilhami> I mean the VM is on the same laptop as my Windows OS
[17:00] <ilhami> I also have a inet6 addr?? Can't I connect through that?
[17:01] <daftykins> ugh hyper-v
[17:01] <Rory> ilhami: Go to some Microsoft support channel, and ask them how to configure networking such that the guest VM and host are on the same network - bridged adaptor rather than NAT
[17:01] <ilhami> can't I connect through my IPv6 addr?
[17:01] <Rory> ilhami: We've established this isn't some Ubuntu configuration issue, which is at least good to know
[17:01] <Rory> ilhami: Are you a wizard?
[17:01] <tcpsyn> I am a wizard
[17:01] <tcpsyn> I practice wizardry
[17:01] <Rory> tcpsyn probably can then
[17:01] <HoNgOuRu> daftykins, sorry
[17:01] <seednode> I thought I was a wizard
[17:02] <daftykins> #ubuntu-wizards
[17:02] <tcpsyn> seednode: you just wizzed.
[17:02] <Rory> But without magic, you will need to sort out your networking - make sure the two hosts can at least reach each other
[17:03] <tcpsyn> ilhami: if you're serious about learning linux... go all in. Run your windows VM on a linux host
[17:03] <tcpsyn> hyper-v isn't going to be valuable to you.
[17:04] <lancro> hi, Im trying to put a centos iso in a pen drive, from ubuntu, I was going to use dd, but I dont know wich sdx is the pendrive, how can I look it?
[17:04] <tcpsyn> lancro: I've always used something like unetbootin to do that
[17:04] <tcpsyn> lancro: but you can use fdisk -l to look at the devices
[17:05] <lancro> ok, Ill use unetbooting, thanks for the help tcpsyn
[17:05] <tcpsyn> just dd'ing the image annoys me more often than not
[17:05] <tcpsyn> well, try it first, I'll think you find dd doesn't set it bootable and all like you want.
[17:06] <tcpsyn> buntu comes with a usb creator too right?
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> lancro  use lsblk and/or sudo blkid to knwo what's where
[17:06] <tcpsyn> yeah, ubuntu comes with usb-creator
[17:06] <lancro> unetbooting told it to me, Im copying files right know, lets see if it works
[17:06] <daftykins> !search snes
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> !find snes
[17:07] <tcpsyn> I need a new job
[17:07] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: hrmm wonder what the difference is XD
[17:07] <daftykins> (between find and search)
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> tcpsyn  Microsoft CEO chair is vacant
[17:08] <daftykins> nah they have new people.
[17:10] <aliwdj> HOW TO GET LATEST VERSION OF JAVA 1.7? DEFAULT-JRE DIDN'T WORK
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> aliwdj  caps
[17:11] <Blizzz> Could the change of a product ID make libmtp not work properly with the device? https://together.jolla.com/question/34046/mtp-does-not-work-with-10420-ohijarvi-and-kubuntu-1310/
[17:13] <ActionPa1snip> Blizzz: https://together.jolla.com/question/8312/jolla-and-ubuntu-1210/
[17:15] <Blizzz> ActionPa1snip: not applicable. But there was just an answer that a patch was sent to libmtp
[17:16] <ActionPa1snip> Blizzz: is there an SFTP client for the OS?
[17:17] <Blizzz> ActionPa1snip: yes, accessing it via sftp works perfectly
[17:19] <ActionPa1snip> Blizzz: I'd use that then. Literally wireless :)
[17:19] <sm_> Hello, I have an problem with the isc-dhcp-server.
[17:19] <sm_> It says: "start: Job failed to start" when trying to start it.
[17:20] <aliwdj> PLEASE CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME
[17:20] <aliwdj> WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE I CAN'T UPGRADE TO JAVA 1.7
[17:20] <aliwdj> I AM STUCK WITH JAVA 1.6
[17:20] <aliwdj> WTF IS THIS PIECE OF SHIT UBUNTU
[17:21] <PreK> can I upgrade to use 14.04 and when released stay with 14.04 lts without format?
[17:21] <tmmunq> you mean going from beta or rc to stable?
[17:21] <ilhami> hey I got problems
[17:21] <marianne> hi again, what the command to check and see if you're runnung 2D or3D unity on 12.04
[17:22] <ilhami> my network config fails
[17:22] <ActionPa1snip> marianne: ps -ef | egrep 'compiz|metacity'
[17:22] <ActionPa1snip> marianne: if it shows compiz running, it's 3D, otherwise it's 2D
[17:23] <ActionPa1snip> aliwdj: there is the WebUpd8 PPA which has Java 1.7
[17:23] <ActionPa1snip> aliwdj: please kill caps and keep it family friendly
[17:23] <marianne> ActionPalsnip" thank you
[17:24] <aliwdj> ActionPa1snip> why does it have to be so hard to uninstall java 1.6 and install 1.7
[17:24] <ActionPa1snip> aliwdj: its not
[17:24] <aliwdj> I TRIED REMOVE!!! It still says java -version
[17:24] <Blizzz> ActionPa1snip: sure, though sometimes the devices are not in the same network. But it is not critical because of this (only for other people that do not activite developer mode on the device)
[17:24] <aliwdj> 1.6
[17:24] <ActionPa1snip> aliwdj: its 3 commands, not hard
[17:25] <ActionPa1snip> Blizzz: port forward port 22/TCP to the server and you can access your data from anywhere on the planet
[17:25] <ActionPa1snip> aliwdj: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[17:25] <ActionPa1snip> aliwdj: again, not hard in any way
[17:26] <ActionPa1snip> aliwdj: or is 3 commands too hard?
[17:26] <PreK> tmmunq: yes
[17:27] <john96> a
[17:27] <SASDOE> hey all, what's the offtopic chan?
[17:28] <tmmunq> PreK: i dont know about that one, i know you can upgrade from 12.04 or 13.10 to 14.04
[17:28] <Slart> !offtopic | SASDOE
[17:28] <SASDOE> cool thx
[17:28] <Slart> SASDOE: you're welcome
[17:28] <PreK> yes I know u can upgrade, dunno if can be done from beta to stable
[17:28] <ActionPa1snip> PreK: are you using trusty?
[17:30] <PreK> yes
[17:30] <PreK> but dont wanna jump to 14.10
[17:30] <trism> !final | PreK
[17:30] <ActionPa1snip> PreK: then you are supported in #ubuntu+1
[17:30] <ActionPa1snip> PreK: 14.10 isnt out til October this year
[17:31] <PreK> just thinked dev build allways dev
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> PreK  what brings you here?
[17:32] <PreK> MonkeyDust: just trying make a perfect HTPC
[17:32] <ActionPa1snip> PreK: Trusty is only supported and discussed in #ubuntu+1 til release day, not here
[17:33] <PreK> ok sorry
[17:33] <ActionPa1snip> PreK: np
[17:36] <andybrine> Wondering if anyone can help me out
[17:36] <ilhami> Hey
[17:36] <ilhami> wifi never gets connected
[17:36] <ilhami> keeps searching
[17:36] <andybrine> im trying to install lotus symphony
[17:36] <andybrine> Hey
[17:37] <andybrine> and Im having unmet dependancies
[17:37] <usr13> andybrine: And..........  (Keep it all in one post...)
[17:37] <andybrine> i cant seem to install them though
[17:37] <andybrine> usr13, there is a lot to include in 1 post
[17:37] <andybrine> lol
[17:38] <andybrine> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:38] <andybrine> symphony:i386: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-21) but 1:4.8.1-10ubuntu9 is installed
[17:38] <andybrine>                Depends: libgnomevfs2-0 (>= 1:2.17.90) but 1:2.24.4-1ubuntu6 is installed
[17:38] <andybrine>                Depends: libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0) but 2:1.0.8-2 is installed
[17:38] <andybrine>                Depends: libnotify1-gtk2.10 but it is a virtual package
[17:38] <usr13> andybrine: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade &&
[17:38] <andybrine>                Depends: liborbit2 (>= 1:2.14.10) but 1:2.14.19-0.2 is installed
[17:38] <usr13> !paste | andybrine
[17:38] <usr13> andybrine: Are you using any PPAs?
[17:39] <andybrine> I have a lot of PPAs yes
[17:39] <usr13> andybrine: Have you installed packages by other means than the package manager and the authorized repositories?
[17:39] <andybrine> But not sure what repos I need for these
[17:40] <andybrine> nothing other than symphony
[17:40] <usr13> andybrine: Then that is your problem.  Now you know where to look to solve your dependency issues.
[17:40] <ActionPa1snip> andybrine: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:40] <ActionPa1snip> !info symphony
[17:40] <andybrine> Ubuntu 13.10
[17:41] <ActionPa1snip> andybrine: and the output of:  apt-cache policy symphony
[17:41] <andybrine> 3.0.1-20120110.2000-1lucid1
[17:41] <andybrine> I downloaded symphony from the ibm website
[17:42] <usr13> andybrine: You can pastebin it.  apt-cache policy symphony | pastebinit
[17:42] <usr13> andybrine: Oh, never mind.
[17:42] <ActionPa1snip> andybrine: i suggest you contact ibm then and report the issue
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> andybrine  and try Libre Office
[17:44] <andybrine> I use Libre Office but prefer to use Lotus Symphony
[17:44] <andybrine> I have had it working perfectly in previous versions
[17:44] <usr13> andybrine: Then use a previous version
[17:44] <andybrine> Lol.....
[17:45] <andybrine> A previous version of ubuntu...
[17:45] <usr13> (of symphony)
[17:45] <usr13> andybrine: Just back down a version or two and see.
[17:46] <ActionPa1snip> andybrine: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/ibm-office-suite-lotus-symphony-3-released   possibly, there is a 64bit deb there, I assume your Ubuntu is 64bit
[17:46] <andybrine> Thanks ActionPa1snip, much appreciated
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> ActionPa1snip  +1
[17:46] <LoWeStEr> hi everybody
[17:49] <LoWeStEr> i was wondering if someone could possibly help me installing ubuntu in a win8 built-in HP
[17:49] <LoWeStEr> pavillion
[17:49] <ActionPa1snip> LoWeStEr: resize NTFS in Windows and install to the freed space
[17:49] <pcuser_> jaekid
[17:49] <tmmunq> restore discs or restore partition?
[17:50] <yacc> Any idea if it's possible to do source based routing with network-manager?
[17:50] <pcuser_> #drupal
[17:50] <LoWeStEr> ok, thank you
[17:50] <pcuser_> how to i change the channel to the drupal channel please?
[17:50] <pcuser_> im a noob at irc
[17:51] <ActionPa1snip> pcuser_: /join channelname
[17:51] <Pici> pcuser_: /join #drupal
[17:51] <pcuser_> thank you
[17:52] <rodd_> how may I change root password if the main user is not on sudoers
[17:52] <ActionPa1snip> rodd_: we dont support that
[17:52] <ActionPa1snip> rodd_: nor is it needed
[17:53] <rodd_> :P
[17:53] <ActionPa1snip> rodd_: if you run:  sudo -s    you will get a root prompt, you can then leave the root account safely locked down
[17:54] <rodd_> the user forgot his password
[17:54] <ActionPa1snip> rodd_: then you will need to chroot from liveCD and you can reset passwords
[17:54] <k1l> rodd_: you need to boot into recovery or use a livecd and chroot.
[17:54] <rodd_> alright thanks
[17:54] <ActionPa1snip> rodd_: teach the fool to leave the root account alone and you will have significantly fewer issues
[17:54] <maujhsn> Can someone give me the official ubunt download site  for 14.04 image to create a liveUSB?
[17:54] <ActionPa1snip> maujhsn: ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:55] <ActionPa1snip> maujhsn: if you are askng that you probably shouldnt be using pre-release
[17:55] <k1l> rodd_: and on ubuntu you dont have a root pw set. use the user and sudo
[17:56] <maujhsn> ActionPa1snip is 14.04 unstable?
[17:56] <rodd_> how can I chroot from live cd?
[17:56] <k1l> !chroot | rodd_
[17:58] <ilhami> Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration
[17:58] <ilhami> !!!!!!!!!!!
[17:58] <ilhami> what is going on?
[17:58] <ilhami> why does my VM not connect?
[17:59] <sketchh> what is "/etc/hp" when referring to ubuntu directories?
[17:59] <ilhami> Booting system without full network configuration
[17:59] <sketchh> or linux directories in general
[17:59] <maujhsn> ActionPa1snip is 14.04 unstable?
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> maujhsn  yes, it will be released in april
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> maujhsn  that is, when it will be stable
[18:00] <ilhami> can anyone answer me?
[18:02] <marianne> will 14.04 be available on CD? or doI have to download and create my own?
[18:02] <maujhsn> MonkeyDust Thanks...you just saved me from downloading an unstable release!
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> marianne  the people in #ubuntu+1 can tell you that
[18:03] <marianne> MonkeyDust: thanks
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> ilhami  repeat your question every 10-15 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help -- keep it in one line
[18:05] <ilhami> Wired network - device not managed
[18:05] <ilhami> cannot connect to the internet
[18:07] <andybrine_> Ok, realised the maid problem installing lotus symphony on Ubuntu 13.10 is that ia32-libs is o longer supported
[18:07] <andybrine_> not available in 13.10 at all anymore
[18:07] <ilhami> how do I remove that lib?
[18:08] <maujhsn> MonkeyDust while where on the topic of ubuntu I am dealing with a complex issue of wanting to close active processes on a liveUSB that I am using on a windows machine! Any thoughts on this topic:
[18:09] <maujhsn> MonkeyDust Here is food for thought: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9346211/how-to-kill-a-process-on-a-port-on-ubuntu
[18:09] <badass> how can I configure sendmail to send emails to an external inbox if the domain is associated with that box?
[18:09] <fa7ad> !ide
[18:10] <fa7ad> !ide
[18:10] <badass> in other words mydomain.com A record is set to that system's IPv4 address, and there is a host entry to a loopback address in /etc/hosts for mydomain.com
[18:10] <badass> but i want to sendmail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>where the mailbox is on a different mail host
[18:11] <badass> is sendmail configurable like that?
[18:17] <ilhami> I think the problem is solved.
[18:18] <Wash_Jones> Hey all, I've run sudo apt-get update a few times and after it checks all the packages, I keep getting this: W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:18] <Wash_Jones> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/Release
[18:18] <Wash_Jones> W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[18:18] <Wash_Jones>  , is this happening for anyone else?
[18:20] <fa7ad> im trying to convert a vcproj to a makefile using winemaker. but everytime i get this
[18:20] <fa7ad> Can't locate XML/LibXML.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/bin/winemaker line 879.
[18:21] <fa7ad> Wash_Jones: it happens to me all the time but i mostly ignore it
[18:21] <k1l> Wash_Jones: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[18:21] <Beldar> Wash_Jones, try this command sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[18:21] <k1l> Beldar: *5*
[18:22] <Beldar> k1l, Missed your paste, hehe
[18:22] <k1l> Beldar: 4sec faster, no need to worry :)
[18:22] <wise___> Hello, Can somebody please help me troubleshoot a linux install where I cannot disable uefi?
[18:23] <fa7ad> anybody with a solution to my problem?
[18:23] <k1l> wise___: we can not talk for every linux in here. but for ubuntu people will try to help if you state your exact issue
[18:24] <Wash_Jones> Okay, awesome, thanks guys
[18:26] <wise___> k1l, Okay.  I can disable secure boot, I cannot select anything but UEFI in the bios.  Grub2 loads up from a liveUSB I created (tried both ubuntu and mint) and I'm able to select Install Ubuntu, or Try Ubuntu, etc.  after grub, I'm greeted with a blank screen, and a chime.
[18:26] <drodriguezpadill> I'm hoping someone could help me with this, but I connected my laptop via HDMI to my TV and it is overscans the picture on the TV to where the top and left side are hidden. What can I do to fix this? There is no option on the TV for overscan.
[18:27] <wise___> k1l, i tried adding parameter 'nomodeset' from grub, but I just get an error message.
[18:27] <fa7ad> .
[18:27] <TJ-> wise___: Have you tried adding "nomodeset" to the kernel's command-line boot options from the GRUB boot menu? .... haha! ... what error message did you get, and when?
[18:28] <u1310s> hi
[18:28] <wise___> TJ-, it said it didn't reconize 'nomodeset'
[18:29] <TJ-> wise___: Secondly, did you try starting using the boot menu's Advanced ... recovery menu entry (that disables the splash screen, shows more kernel messages, and doesn't try to start the GUI?
[18:29] <wise___> TJ- how do I do that?
[18:29] <TJ-> wise___: Ahhhh... I think I know why that happened. When you added " nomodeset" did you ensure it was at the end of the line that begins "linux...", being careful to account for the fact that the GRUB menu editor text entry wraps the lines ?
[18:30] <wise___> TJ-, haha... nope i just typed it on its own line...
[18:30] <TJ-> wise___: At the GRUB boot menu, there should be an Advanced..." sub-menu beneath the default boot entry, selecting that brings up a sub-menu with alternative "recovery" boot options and the entries for any older kernel versions still installed after kernel upgrades.
[18:31] <wise___> I'm going to log into this channel from my phone and boot into grub.
[18:32] <TJ-> wise___: that's a common gotchya, and not helpful. I'd suggest trying again, first with the recovery option to ensure it does boot rather than freeze, which'll end up at a text based recovery menu with options like "root shell", "shell with networking".
[18:32] <TJ-> wise___: If that works, reboot and try adding "nomodeset" to the default entry, ensuring it's at the end of the "linux... " line, and for better reports, remove the "quiet splash" entries so you can see kernel messages too
[18:33] <c_smith_> whol
[18:34] <wise___> TJ- great I'll try that now.  wise_phone is also me.
[18:34] <TJ-> drodriguezpadill: Does the TV have an option such as "Screen Fit" instead of "16:9" in the Picture Options of the OSD?
[18:36] <drodriguezpadill> TJ, it does not. The closest thing is Zoom Mode, but none of the modes work to fit the screen.
[18:37] <wise_phone> Ok... Removed quiet splash, added nomodeset, a quick line of text flashed but im still at the same blank screen, with a chime.
[18:37] <ilhami> I cant start x in xming
[18:37] <Fohlen> anyone knows where I could obtain more up-to-date calligra packages (callibrasheets, calligrawords) for ubuntu 13.04 without installing the calligra-suit as a complete?
[18:37] <TJ-> wise___: The line of text would be GRUB's "starting linux..." or "loading linux.../loading initial ramdisk..."
[18:37] <drodriguezpadill> ...TJ, Zoom Mode include Standard, Wide Zoom, Wide, and Zoom
[18:37] <Fohlen> calligawords is already in the repos, but it's calligra 2.6.3 and heavily buggy :(
[18:38] <TJ-> drodriguezpadill: The issue is usually caused by incorrect EDID data sent by the TV to the PC
[18:38] <wise_phone> Tj- yes i believe so..
[18:38] <drodriguezpadill> TJ, What would I need to do to fix it?
[18:39] <Sprocks> willwh or anyone else that has used byobu do you know how i can get it to use my .bash_profile? i have aliases in it that i would like to be able to use in byobu
[18:39] <TJ-> wise_phone: Are there any external devices left plugged in; USB, firewire, ExpressCard, etc.?
[18:39] <wise_phone> Tj- only the usb drive with linux on it.
[18:40] <TJ-> drodriguezpadill: It's difficult; either calculate and install a custom modeline for the X server, of else capture, modify, and use as an over-ride, the EDID data
[18:40] <Beldar> Fohlen, Never used it but found this info, be aware PPA's are not supported here is all. http://www.kubuntu.org/news/calligra-2.8
[18:40] <TJ-> wise_phone: If that isn't the installed Ubuntu, then I'd suggest unplugging it. We had someone else earlier had identical symptoms and the cause was leaving the mobile phone connected during boot
[18:41] <Fohlen> Beldar thanks so far, but those only contain the main calligra package (whole suit) :(
[18:41] <SW__> >Hi.   How can I wipe bash history,  and also wipe the command that wiped the bash history ?
[18:42] <willwh> Sprocks: not sure, sorry: https://bugs.launchpad.net/byobu/+bug/525552
[18:42] <wise_phone> Tj- its the live usb installer though.
[18:42] <willwh> SW__: "hide my tracks" :E
[18:42] <LoWeStEr> could someone help me out, i was about to install ubuntu on win8 built-in pc, but it came with 6 partitions
[18:42] <Beldar> LoWeStEr, Have you seen the UEFI wiki?
[18:43] <SW__> willwh: Nothing sinister
[18:43] <paloalt0> I ran testdisk to try to fix my MBR and now all I get is a 1234F prompt that does nothing when i try to boot. i downloaded some rescue distros to a flashdrive but it won't boot the flash drive or give me a way to get to the BIOS. Any suggestions?
[18:43] <paloalt0> oops sorry bad paste
[18:43] <willwh> SW__: that sounds pretty sinister
[18:43] <willwh> :)
[18:43] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, but if you're having problems booting the *installed* Ubuntu, then that won't be required.
[18:43] <paloalt0> I ran testdisk to try to fix my MBR and now all I get is a 1234F prompt that does nothing when i try to boot. i downloaded some rescue distros to a flashdrive but it won't boot the flash drive or give me a way to get to the BIOS. Any suggestions?
[18:44] <Fohlen> Beldar is there a posibility to obtain calligra packages from 13.10 ?
[18:44] <Fohlen> because those are 2.7.2 already =)
[18:44] <TJ-> SW__: "history -c" will clear the ~/.bash_history and you can use "history -d <entry>" to delete a specific entry
[18:44] <wise_phone> Tj- i cant even get that far, i cant install ubuntu.
[18:44] <Beldar> Fohlen, Not sure I had never heard of it.
[18:45] <TJ-> wise_phone: I understood from your original description you'd Installed but it won't boot afterwards?
[18:45] <Fohlen> because basically, .deb remains .deb
[18:45] <Fohlen> :D
[18:45] <SW__> TJ-: I want it so arrowing up shows nothing,   not the history -c,  or -w
[18:45] <SW__> Just nothing ;p
[18:45] <TJ-> SW__: "history -d" or turn it off
[18:45] <wise_phone> Tj- sorry, i should have been more clear.  Im unable to access the installer.
[18:46] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, I've re-read what you typed... got it now :)
[18:46] <Sailor7009> could someone help me out installing ubuntu in a win8 built-in pc, it came with 6 partitions
[18:46] <TJ-> wise_phone: Right, so, the question now becomes, how did you create the USB device?
[18:47] <wise_phone> Tj- downloaded 13.10 iso, made the usb with lili
[18:47] <jhutchins> kjs: What was the package you were looking for multiarch on?
[18:48] <TJ-> wise_phone: Did you check the md5sum of the installed image once it was created?
[18:48] <Beldar> paloalt0, You familiar with the per-session boot menu, outside the bios?
[18:49] <wise_phone> Tj- ill run through that process again and check the md5sum
[18:49] <Beldar> !uefi | Sailor7009
[18:49] <Beldar> Sailor7009, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[18:49] <TJ-> wise_phone: A quick test is, try (from Windows) booting it in a Virtual Machine. According to the Linuxliveusb.com web-site, it comes with a virtualization feature to do that
[18:50] <Beldar> Sailor7009, You want to resize windows from its partitioner leaving a unallocated area for the ubuntu install.
[18:50] <Sprocks> willwh i found a way to get it to work, instead of trying to reference the .bash_profile directly i have byobu run bash --login
[18:52] <TJ-> wise_phone: see http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/help/guide/using-lili
[18:53] <Sailor7009> thanks a lot, Beldar: this isn't an issue to change disk with all these partitions?
[18:54] <Beldar> Sailor7009, Not sure I understand your question.
[18:54] <Sailor7009> i mean those tutorials over there said make sure to not have more than 3 partition
[18:55] <Beldar> Sailor7009, The ones I gave are standard the 3 partition limit is a msdos partition table reference, you have a uefi table and are gpt.
[18:55] <willwh> Sprocks: ye I saw that in the laucnhpad bug too - glad you got it working :)
[18:55] <spoutnik16> hi guys
[18:56] <spoutnik16> i'm searching how to save a desktop session (i means programs + windows lcoation) on ubuntu 13.10 shutdown
[18:56] <spoutnik16> so, when i wake up my computer, it is like it was when i closed it
[18:56] <spoutnik16> hi guys
[18:57] <Beldar> Sailor7009, Do you know the differences on a msdos and efi/gpt partition tablinb.
[18:57] <Beldar> tabling*
[18:57] <TJ-> spoutnik16: If the PC is "shutdown" it powers off; so it doesn't "wake" - that term is used for resuming from Hibernation or Suspend-to-RAM
[18:57] <Sailor7009> Beldar: not at all
[18:58] <lancro> Sailor7009, I instaled ubuntu in my system, uefi, with windows 8.1
[18:58] <lancro> You need unallocated space, make it from windows
[18:58] <Sailor7009> i was wandering if you could go into details
[18:58] <lancro> and in the installation go to the advanced options in partitioning
[18:58] <Sailor7009> yes,
[18:58] <spoutnik16> TJ-, > well, i'm looking for a way to save my desktop (open programs + their workspace lcoation) when i power it off, so when i power it up it will be the same
[18:58] <lancro> in windows in the administration center, right click on your computer administrate
[18:59] <Sailor7009> they mentioned 3 partitions, i got 6, i want understand this
[18:59] <TJ-> spoutnik16: I'd recommend you investigate Hibernation then; that's it purpose.
[18:59] <lancro> I think I have more
[19:00] <lancro> the efi partition, the windows partition, 2 other dell partitions for system checkup, 2 ubuntu partitions, and 3 for centos
[19:00] <spoutnik16> TJ-, > ok, thank you :)
[19:00] <wise_phone> Tj- im in the ubuntu installer now.. Humm..
[19:00] <Beldar> Sailor7009, Cool, no biggie. Look closely at both links I gave you. The Ubuntu Forums ones is especially helpful in the partitioning, imaging/cloning W8.1 and making a recovery disc.
[19:00] <Sailor7009> i create a partition from c:/?
[19:00] <spoutnik16> TJ-, > in my mind, hibernation was more about polar bears and marmots
[19:00] <TJ-> Sailor7009: Before we had UEFI firmware, there was BIOS. At that time disks used an MSDOS-based partitioning scheme that limited the disk to 4 'primary' partitions. Over time that proved to be too few, so UEFI introduced GPT which can have 128.
[19:00] <Sailor7009> is it?
[19:00] <lancro> you srink the partition
[19:01] <lancro> for example you have a 1TB partition, you make it smaller, like 800GB, and leave the rest for the installer
[19:01] <lancro> make room for ubuntu
[19:01] <TJ-> Sailor7009: Windows 8.x required UEFI, which requires in turn GPT, so there is now no 4-partition limitation, so all you need to do is free up some space allocated to Windows so that the partition that contains that space can be shrunk, and a new partition created that will point to that free space, which can then be used by the Ubuntu installer
[19:02] <Sailor7009> thank you guys
[19:02] <Sailor7009> I'm going there
[19:02] <Sailor7009> now i thoroughly understand
[19:02] <TJ-> wise_phone: In the installer? Can you find the "Virtualize_This_Key.exe" program using Windows Explorer on the USB itself?
[19:05] <wise_phone> Tj- yes, im partitioning my drive now though via the installer.
[19:06] <OMGTallMonster> I'm having issues with my graphics card overheating, even on the lowest profile setting. I don't have this problem when I boot into Windows. I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask for help, though.
[19:06] <kjs> jhutchins: libboost-all-dev
[19:06] <kjs> jhutchins: thanks
[19:06] <TJ-> wise_phone: Ahhh, OK ... but that worries me a bit since Windows is currently running :)
[19:07] <TJ-> OMGTallMonster: make/model? Ubuntu version, architecture?
[19:07] <james_d_h> Anyone know if there will be a security update to address this http://nginx.org/en/security_advisories.html?1.5.12 soon?
[19:07] <wise_phone> Tj- i booted via the usb into the installer.  Windows is not running atm.
[19:08] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, cool :)
[19:09] <TJ-> james_d_h: see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/nginx.html
[19:09] <OMGTallMonster> TJ-: Radeon HD 4770. I'm running 13.10 64 bit.
[19:10] <ronaldsmazitis> hi ubunties
[19:10] <ronaldsmazitis> how to restore nautilus as default file manager
[19:11] <wise_phone> Tj- hopefully this is the last of my problems!  Windows 8.1 is pretty sucky, and this is my first computer in years.
[19:11] <TJ-> wise_phone: You're doing well so far :)
[19:11] <james_d_h> TJ-: I don't see the CVE question on that page, should I notifiy someone?
[19:12] <TJ-> OMGTallMonster: I'm reading there's an issue with the radeon driver, which in combination with a recent kernel can be worked around/solved by adding "radeon.dpm=1" to the kernel's command line
[19:12] <wise_phone> Tj- thanks, cant wait to see how much ubuntu has changed over the years.
[19:13] <TJ-> james_d_h: Yes, it's possible the package is synced directly from Debian without Ubuntu changes, so it might be needing the Debian maintainer to look at it, but that's my speculation, I've not looked that deeply
[19:13] <k1l> ronaldsmazitis: see the lower part about manual way: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager
[19:13] <TJ-> james_d_h: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#Kernel_3.11.x_.28Ubuntu_13.10.2BAC8-Saucy.29_and_Later
[19:13] <james_d_h> TJ-: pretty nasty remote heap buffer overflow in spdy bleeding edge in dev ppa is still affected
[19:13] <TJ-> oops!!
[19:13] <OMGTallMonster> TJ-: Sorry, but how would I go about adding to the kernel's command line?
[19:14] <TJ-> OMGTallMonster:  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#Kernel_3.11.x_.28Ubuntu_13.10.2BAC8-Saucy.29_and_Later
[19:14] <james_d_h> lol i was very confused for a moment.
[19:14] <TJ-> james_d_h: Bet you weren't the only one :)
[19:14] <OMGTallMonster> TJ-: Thanks, I'll try that. :)
[19:15] <TJ-> james_d_h: Looking at the entire CVE list for Ubuntu's Universe pocket, 2014-0133 is not there:  http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/universe.html
[19:24] <chris11> is /home/-user usually private?
[19:24] <james_d_h> TJ-: yeah I may have to roll my own deb unti they get something out there.
[19:24] <b14ckw07m> Hi
[19:24] <b14ckw07m> all
[19:25] <mr> how do you play movies from netflix?
[19:25] <k1l> chris11: only the -user has access to that, yes. (or root)
[19:25] <wise_phone> Tj- one other thing.  The ubuntu installer told me it didnt recognize any installed os's.  I resized the main ntfs partition to 50gb, made a swap of 4gb, and an ext4 of about 450gb.  This probably means ill have to configure grub2 to be able to boot into win8.1?
[19:26] <chris11> thanks k1l
[19:27] <TJ-> wise_phone: No... with UEFI the firmware keeps the boot menu itself, the OS's just tell it to add/remove entries. Linux does that using the "efibootmgr" tool which the package "grub-efi" calls upon. So GRUB no longer needs to mess about supporting already-installed OSes
[19:29] <wise_phone> Tj- oh i see.
[19:32] <wise_phone> Tj- ahh.. Upon installation of Ubuntu completed, restart booted me into windows with no boot manager menu...
[19:34] <ilhami> Hey
[19:34] <ilhami> answer me
[19:35] <dtcrshr> ilhami: whats the question?
[19:35] <ilhami> I have only one resolution for Ubuntu
[19:35] <ilhami> how can I get more?
[19:35] <ilhami> It's running in VM
[19:35] <ilhami> I have to scroll up and down to see the whole window
[19:35] <ilhami> that's so annoying.
[19:36] <ilhami> is there a file I can modify?
[19:37] <ZZRMike> I'm trying to set up a dev environment with apache, but I'm having issues with it forwarding to localhost from whatever test domain i set the site as.
[19:38] <ilhami> :D
[19:38] <ilhami> remember to start apache
[19:39] <willwh> ZZRMike: did you make an entry in /etc/hosts?
[19:39] <ZZRMike> yes
[19:39] <willwh> also - in your apache config, make sure you used named Vhosts
[19:39] <willwh> also, a2ensite <sitename>
[19:39] <willwh> from /etc/apache2/sites-available
[19:39] <ZZRMike> I didn't do that, I'll give that a try, thanks.
[19:40] <willwh> or cd /etc/apache2/sites-enabled && sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/sites-available/<sitename>
[19:41] <willwh> I always recommend people do this: cd /etc/apache2/sites-avilable && sudo cp default mydefault && sudo /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default && sudo a2enmod mydefault
[19:41] <willwh> that way you don't need to worry about replacing package maintainers configs through upgrades
[19:42] <willwh> ZZRMike: I can help if you get stuck.... but I am really busy, you can hilight me and I'll get back as I can
[19:42] <willwh> I don't monitor the channel too much
[19:42] <ZZRMike> willwh: Will do, thanks.
[19:42] <willwh> ZZRMike: np :)
[19:47] <kjs> Guys I need a solution for installing libboost-all-dev i386 on a AMD64 ubuntu 12.04 lts system.
[19:47] <Guest20522> hello
[19:47] <llutz> kjs: apt-get install libboost-all-dev:i386
[19:48] <ramsub07> Hi guys, what are all the possible libraries with which I can generate a specific HTML from a given text ?
[19:48] <ramsub07> using bash
[19:48] <ikonia> ramsub07: what ????
[19:48] <ikonia> just write a shell script to write html templates
[19:51] <willwh> ramsub07: bash is has limited library support
[19:51] <willwh> use python :P
[19:51] <willwh> ramsub07: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11369522/bash-utility-script-library
[19:51] <TJ-> kjs: see bug #918438
[19:52] <kjs> TJ-: llutz https://gist.github.com/anonymous/322c648b0b2019544143
[19:53] <wise_phone> Tj- i can initiate ubuntu booting from hdd, running with argument nomodeset and quiet splash removed.  System hangs saying 'starting'
[19:53] <OMGTallMonster> TJ-: Are there any known issues with that boot parameter and xrandr? Whenever I try to move the location of my screen via xrandr, the entire OS freezes.
[19:53] <llutz> kjs:" Try 'apt-get -f install'"   did you?
[19:53] <wise_phone> Any ideas?
[19:54] <TJ-> wise_phone: Hmmm :(
[19:55] <wise_phone> Tj- :(
[19:55] <arcsky> when i do rdp to my win machine on my LAN i dont get nice colors etc it doesnt work well from linux to win ?
[19:55] <behrooz> hello everyone , i have question for run source browser plugin in gedit 3.4.1
[19:55] <behrooz>  may i have question here ?
[19:57] <TJ-> wise_phone: Try again, adding also to the kernel's command-line "rootdelay=90"
[19:59] <kjs> llutz: yeah i tried - https://gist.github.com/anonymous/49733f558e01348b8fa5
[19:59] <wise_phone> Tj- so...   Initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-18-generic rootdelay=90
[19:59] <kjs> problem is i need both 64 and 32 bit
[20:00] <TJ-> wise_phone: no... on the "linux ..." line. "initrd" is a different line
[20:00] <llutz> kjs: you cannot,  libboost-all-dev:amd64 onflicts: libboost-all-dev:i386
[20:00] <TJ-> wise_phone: "linux ..." and "initrd ..." are two GRUB commands telling the boot-loader where to find the kernel and initial ramdisk, respectively
[20:01] <llutz> Conflicts*
[20:01] <TJ-> kjs: Your best solution is to create a 32-bit chroot to build in
[20:02] <TJ-> kjs: Or, if you're patching Debian/Ubuntu packages, use a pbuilder or similar
[20:02] <kjs> not patching
[20:02] <kjs> I coudl go chroot.
[20:02] <kjs> so chroot or different machine.
[20:03] <kjs> previously devs just built from source, bodging it and get around the issue.
[20:03] <TJ-> kjs: For package building I generally use a pbuilder for the target arch and release
[20:04] <wise_phone> Tj- adding rootdelay=90 causes it to hang at the purple grub screen (blank screen, no text, just purple)
[20:08] <ring3> hi
[20:08] <ring3> my ecryptfs decrypt my home when turn on the computer, wtf? anybody can descrypt my pc turning on it
[20:09] <Jordan_U> ring3: No, it decrypts your home directory when you log in.
[20:09] <ring3> no, i doesnt loged in, and via tty, i see my home
[20:09] <ring3> ctrl+alt f1 before the log-in
[20:09] <ring3> the partition is automounted
[20:09] <llutz> ring3: and there you login
[20:10] <ring3> i loign but on the shell
[20:10] <llutz> omg
[20:10] <llutz> ring3: login is login
[20:10] <ring3> oks
[20:10] <ring3> it is mounted so quick, that it seem to be mounted
[20:11] <TJ-> wise_phone: The 'purple' screen is the 'splash' graphical background, so something is happening. Try using "rootdelay=90 nomodeset debug" and removing "quiet splash", if anything is reported we know the kernel is starting
[20:12] <breno_> is it right to say that the difference between a iso.manifest and iso.list files are that the source packages and the second are the binary packages?
[20:14] <wise_phone> Tj- okay those arguments take me through the normal booting procedure, then to a blank screen with just a '_' blinking in the top Left corner.
[20:15] <TJ-> wise_phone: I don't like that PC!
[20:16] <TJ-> wise_phone: by "normal booting procedure" do you mean you see the kernel's boot messages but when it reaches the expected log-in it doesn't switch to the graphical log-in?
[20:16] <TJ-> wise_phone: If so, try switching to a text terminal with Alt+Ctrl+F1
[20:17] <TJ-> wise_phone: If that shows a "login: " prompt then you can at least get in and work on fixing the graphical drivers for the video card, which will be the problem
[20:17] <wise_phone> Yeah says all the normal stuff with [OK] next to most them
[20:18] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, great, that proves the system is installed correctly, so you need to identify the video adapter and which drivers it has, because it'll be that causing GUI to fail.
[20:19] <wise_phone> Ok, i logged in... Im at a bash prompt.
[20:20] <Zelgod> Hey, i don't know if this is the right channel to ask for help but ill try. I'm trying to install linux mint on my laptop and im getting a black screen with no HDD activity
[20:20] <wise_phone> I ran 'startx'. Fatal server error, no screens found
[20:20] <TJ-> wise_phone: Let's find out if the network has connectivity; if so, you'll be able to pastebin config info
[20:20] <rww> ubottu: mintsupport | Zelgod
[20:21] <wise_phone> How can i do that?
[20:21] <TJ-> wise_phone: "ip addr" - that'll show the IPv4 and IPv6 address(es). If your LAN is IPv4 only, then check the PC has been assigned an IPv4 via DHCP
[20:21] <Zelgod> rww do you suggest i try ubuntu instead?
[20:21] <Zelgod> that help channel is a wasteland.
[20:22] <wise_phone> I have an ip address.
[20:22] <rww> Zelgod: Well, it depends. If there's some reason you went with Mint that warrants using it, then you're stuck with Mint support. If you just picked at random, then yes, I'd go with Ubuntu.
[20:22] <TJ-> wise_phone: To control the GUI nowadays, you do "sudo service lightdm {start,restart,stop}"
[20:22] <guntbert> !brain > guntbert
[20:22] <TJ-> wise_phone: Great! Can you do "lspci -vnn | pastebinit" and give me the URL of the pastebin?
[20:23] <TJ-> wise_phone: warning: I have to go do dinner very soon so I may have to leave you to find someone else to take over, but if you tell them it's a new install, video driver issue, there should be plenty of folks able to help
[20:24] <wise_phone> Ok... How can i send the log file?
[20:24] <guntbert> !pastebin | wise_phone
[20:25] <Zelgod> rww: i looked a review and apparently mint is supposed to be snappier however i'd be fine with whatever distro has more support and work with my laptop.
[20:25] <TJ-> wise_phone: If you used the command I gave you, pastebinit will have posted the output to a pastebin and given you the URL, which you simply need to give here
[20:26] <wise_phone> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/7116154
[20:26] <TJ-> wise_phone: You can pipe output from stdout to pastebinit, or you can send files with "pastebinit /path/to/file"
[20:26] <wise_phone> Tj- thats neat!
[20:27] <TJ-> wise_phone: "pastebinit /var/log/syslog"
[20:27] <Zelgod> rww: currently as it stands i have a windows 8 installed, im looking to dual boot ubuntu or another unix distro that would work.
[20:27] <Cancel> anyone know where ubuntu is mounting cifs/smb shares I read documentation that said ~/.gvfs but no such location
[20:27] <TJ-> wise_phone: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"  - I have to go for dinner, so I'll hand over to others now. Those pastebins should help to identify the issue.
[20:28] <wise_phone> Tj- paste.ubuntu.com/7116161
[20:28] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116163
[20:29] <wise_phone> Tj- thank you so much for your help!!
[20:29] <TJ-> wise_phone: that last log shows the errrors; someone else should be able to help you solve that
[20:30] <Jordan_U> Cancel: How are you mounting the share?
[20:30] <Cancel> Through nautilus, browsing, bookmarking
[20:30] <Cancel> I'm not using the mount command
[20:31] <Jordan_U> Cancel: And with a CIFS mount, running "ls ~/.gvfs/" prints what?
[20:31] <Cancel> no such file or directory
[20:31] <wise_phone> Thanks afain tj-, can somebody please help me solve this issue?
[20:32] <Cancel> which there isn't I said that to start with. So I'm curious is nautilus really not mounting and maybe using smbclient style of access
[20:32] <john96> Zelgod: download ubuntu and install it.. there is an option for dual boot in the installer
[20:32] <Jordan_U> Cancel: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[20:33] <Cancel> I'm on 13
[20:33] <Zelgod> Thanks john96 already on it. The amount of people in this room was enough to convince me lol
[20:33] <Jordan_U> Cancel: Try /run/user/username/gvfs/.
[20:34] <Cancel> no such file or directory
[20:34] <Jordan_U> Cancel: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts.
[20:35] <Cancel> Jordan_U: ahead of you thought about that too just by type in a mount and I don't see diddly but I'll pastebin
[20:35] <Jordan_U> Cancel: Also, just so you know, there is no "Ubuntu 13", there is only "Ubuntu 13.04" and "Ubuntu 13.10".
[20:35] <Cancel> 13.10 to be exact
[20:36] <Anonymous4994> Hello
[20:37] <Cancel> Jordan_U: pastebin.com/a1zh6bqr
[20:37] <Cancel> Jordan_U: hey I could be blind but I'm on two shares two different servers and see nada
[20:37] <wise_phone> Anybody have any idea how to fix my gfx drivers... Or whatever the problem may be??
[20:39] <Jordan_U> Cancel: /run/user/1000/gvfs , I was wrong and it's UID rather than user name.
[20:40] <Cancel> Jordan_U: I think we've found it. Thanks.
[20:40] <Jordan_U> Cancel: You're welcome.
[20:44] <wise_phone> Anybody able to help me fix lightdm?
[20:44] <john96> wise_dm: maybe, what's your problem
[20:44] <john96> ?
[20:45] <ChibaPet> I'm looking for the default XFCE monospace font, as mentioned here: http://makandracards.com/makandra/12437-how-to-set-the-default-monospace-font-on-xfce-xubuntu     But I'm not sure where it lives or what package owns it. Does anyone have pointers?
[20:45] <wise_phone> John96, i cant start it.  Heres my xorg log paste.ubuntu.com/7116163
[20:45] <ChibaPet> It seems not to be Liberation, DejaVu, or FreeMono.
[20:48] <ChibaPet> Hm, I guess it *is* Deja Vu Sans Mono after all.
[20:51] <manuel_> PKp
[21:09] <mrogne> anyone using AWN? I just added the "Show Desktop" applet, but was wondering if there is a way to make it not toggle between "Show Desktop" and "Show All Windows"....... but just *stay* as "Show Desktop"?
[21:12] <TJ-> wise_phone: Back - have you made any progess?
[21:13] <wise_phone>  Tj- nothing to any avail :/
[21:13] <TJ-> wise_phone: I'll scan the log-files
[21:15] <TJ-> wise_phone: First thing to note is, the video chipset is the Intel i915.
[21:16] <Pessimist> wise_phone, do you have any fancy configuration, kernel?
[21:16] <wise_phone> Tj- heres my xorg.conf.  paste.ubuntu.com/7116387
[21:17] <sebsebseb> hi
[21:17] <wise_phone> Tj- notice there are multiple screens listed... Could that be the issue?
[21:17] <robotti^> I find some little bug on ubuntu 14.04
[21:18] <Pessimist> wise_phone, you don't have multiple screens? You can try renaming it to Xorg.conf.bak and restart X
[21:18] <john96> robotti: whats the bug?
[21:18] <Beldar> !14.04 | robotti^
[21:18] <TJ-> wise_phone: How did you create the xorg.conf? There shouldn't be one - X server auto-configures itself
[21:19] <wise_phone> Pessimist, nope just a single screen, laptop.
[21:19] <mrogne> anyone using AWN? I just added the "Show Desktop" applet, but was wondering if there is a way to make it not toggle between "Show Desktop" and "Show All Windows"....... but just *stay* as "Show Desktop"?
[21:20] <TJ-> wise_phone: I assume you created that with "Xorg -configure" ?
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> mrogne  there's also #awn
[21:20] <Pessimist> wise_phone, sudo cp /etc/X11/Xorg.conf /etc/X11/Xorg.conf.bak && sudo rm /etc/X11/Xorg.conf (this should do the trick -- backup current Xorg.conf and remove the old one) and then try starting X
[21:20] <wise_phone> Tj- yes, xorg -configure
[21:20] <mrogne> MonkeyDust: didn't know that. thanks. only 2-3 ppl in there atm tho =(
[21:20] <TJ-> wise_phone: The original Xorg.0.log you pasted wasn't using that, it was still using the auto-configuration, so you can just delete that file - it won't help.
[21:20] <nysxo> When 14.04 LTS is officially released, will it be possible to upgrade an RC installation without completely reinstalling?
[21:20] <Pessimist> nysxo, yes
[21:21] <nysxo> thank you :)
[21:22] <nysxo> Can anyone point me to a recommended guide for setting up a windows/ubuntu 14.04 dual-boot system with full disk encryption?
[21:22] <Beldar> !14.04 | nysxo
[21:22] <tmmunq> ubuntu cannot encrypt windows, you will need to use bitlocker or truecrypt
[21:22] <wise_phone> Tj- ok its removed, still wont start lightdm
[21:22] <TJ-> wise_phone: I'm concerned that the "lspci" output doesn't show the kernel driver in use for the i915, but the syslog shows it being initialised. As both those were captured during the same session, that is ... confusing
[21:23] <TJ-> wise_phone: "lsmod | grep i915" ... does that show the i915 kernel module is loaded?
[21:24] <Pessimist> wise_phone, what's the Xorg.0.log now?
[21:24] <Pessimist> wise_phone, I think you are missing the kernel module or you are using a kernel you compiled yourself and forgot to choose some options
[21:25] <TJ-> Pessimist: This was the log immediately after booting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7116163/
[21:25] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116424
[21:25] <TJ-> Pessimist: It's a fresh installation, UEFI system, we had some 'issues' getting it installed, then booted (rootdelay=90) so now we're working on the DRI
[21:26] <Pessimist> TJ-, 3.2 kernel? hue
[21:26] <wise_phone> Pessimist its a fresh install of 13.10, no kernal modification.
[21:26] <TJ-> wise_phone: That looks good. Pessimist The syslog is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/7116161/
[21:28] <Pessimist> wise_phone, and you are using kernel 3.2 on 13.10?
[21:29] <wise_phone> Pessimist umm... Im not sure.
[21:30] <TJ-> wise_phone: before we go too far, do a system update and then reboot: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[21:31] <TJ-> wise_phone: Pessimist  vmlinuz-3.11.0-18-generic.efi.signed
[21:31] <wise_phone> Tj- okay its running the dist upgrade now.
[21:31] <Pessimist> wise_phone, well, your situation is weird
[21:35] <wise_phone> Pessimist I'm aware :)
[21:35] <TJ-> wise_phone: "ls -al /dev/dri/* | pastebinit"
[21:37] <Pessimist> wise_phone, only idea I have is that something is wrong with your kernel because there is no /dev/dri/card0. Probably intel dri driver is missing and I don't know exactly which package provides it in ubuntu -- probably xorg-video-intel so you can try reinstalling that. Good luck, I'm bailing out!
[21:38] <TJ-> wise_phone: Also, "ls -al /sys/bus/pci/drivers/i915/ | pastebinit"
[21:39] <wise_phone> Ok just waiting for the update to finish, pastebin those after reboot?
[21:40] <Beryl> Anyone know why synaptic scrolls up every time you do something? extremely annoying
[21:40] <TJ-> wise_phone: no, do it before
[21:41] <TJ-> wise_phone: If the problem goes away after reboot, fine, but I want to have all the logs from the same session
[21:43] <TJ-> wise_phone: and a third request: "cat /sys/module/i915/parameters/modeset"
[21:45] <wise_phone> Ls -al /dev/dri/*   gives ereor no such file or directory
[21:46] <wise_phone> Same with the second command
[21:46] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, so despite evidence to the contrary, the i915 driver has somehow failed
[21:47] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116529
[21:47] <TJ-> wise_phone: "sudo modprobe -r i915 && sudo modprobe i915"
[21:47] <TJ-> wise_phone: Then, "tail -n 50 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit"
[21:48] <wise_phone> Ok, should i try to reload the i915 drivers?
[21:48] <TJ-> wise_phone: ^^^^ yes, do the modprobe
[21:48] <TJ-> wise_phone: I want to try two variations of loading them, this is the first
[21:49] <TJ-> wise_phone: I think that "-1" is the issue, because it means: "-1=force vga console preference [default])"
[21:49] <wise_phone> Error cannot initialize the aptgart module.
[21:49] <TJ-> wise_phone: I think we're going need to give the kernel another command-line option "i915.modeset=1" ... but we'll try that later when you reboot
[21:50] <TJ-> wise_phone: agpgart? aha!
[21:50] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116543
[21:51] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK... check if i915 has partially loaded with "lsmod | grep i915". If it has loaded, unload it: "sudo modprobe -r i915"
[21:52] <wise_phone> Tj- ok unloaded.
[21:52] <TJ-> wise_phone: Then do "sudo modprobe i915 modeset=1" then let's check the log again "tail -n 50 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit"
[21:52] <nichlas> can anyone recommend a router for a 150 megabit connection?
[21:53] <wise_phone> Ok sudo modprobe i915 modeset=1 gives me a blank screen i cant get out of.
[21:55] <TJ-> wise_phone: really? OK, try switching to another tty and log-in: Alt+F2
[21:55] <TJ-> wise_phone: If that doesn't work, try Alt+F1 to get back to the first TTY, and try Ctrl+C to interrupt the process, if that doesn't work, try Ctrl+Z to suspend the process
[21:56] <wise_phone> I couldnt switch tty... Rebooting
[21:56] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK :) Boy, you've got a challenge with that system!
[21:58] <wise_phone> Tj- its an uphill battle...
[21:58] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116571
[21:58] <TJ-> wise_phone: from my searching, it's a common issue with that model, even though - apparently - Acer sell it with Linux pre-installed too
[21:59] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, so you've rebooted? did you have to switch to TTY1 and log-in  again?
[22:00] <basketball> how do i use the dd comand i need to write a .img to sd card
[22:00] <willwh> man dd
[22:01] <wise_phone> Tj- tty1 says starting lightdm, stopping send an event to indicate plymouth is up
[22:01] <wise_phone> Im in tty2
[22:01] <anonymous_> hi
[22:01] <anonymous_> hi
[22:01] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK
[22:01] <anonymous_> ho
[22:01] <anonymous_> back track
[22:01] <TJ-> wise_phone: "pastebinit /var/log/syslog"
[22:02] <anonymous_> sql inject
[22:02] <anonymous_> alguem
[22:03] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116593
[22:04] <basketball> is there a gui for dd
[22:05] <TJ-> wise_phone: It seems that syslog file has been truncated by pastebin, or else it isn't being updated. Last entry was at 14:08
[22:06] <TJ-> wise_phone: "ls -latr /var/log/ | pastebinit" ... let's check the log files latest update times
[22:07] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116613
[22:09] <TJ-> wise_phone: probably pastebin truncated it, let's do a part of it: "tail -n 500 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"
[22:10] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116631
[22:13] <TJ-> wise_phone: "if pgrep lightdm; then sudo service stop lightdm; fi"
[22:13] <TJ-> wise_phone: That'll stop the X server... now unload i915 "sudo modprobe -r i915"
[22:15] <TJ-> wise_phone: Then try let's see if we can monitor the i915 driver as it is loaded: "tail -n 0 -f /var/log/kern.log& sleep 1; sudo modprobe i915 modeset=0" ... you should see the kern.log output written to tty as modprobe operates (in case it locks up the tty again)
[22:18] <wise_phone> Ok... Cannot initialize agpgart module, fill_In_dev failed
[22:19] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, I think we need to figure that out - whether it is incidental or actually the root cause
[22:20] <wise_phone> Tj- ok... Hummmmm
[22:22] <TJ-> wise_phone: "sudo lspci -vvvnn -s 00:02.0 | pastebinit"
[22:23] <wise_phone>  Paste. Ubuntu.com/7116682
[22:25] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, so the failure is causing the driver to not take over the device, even if the driver is in memory.
[22:25] <TJ-> wise_phone: That helps understand the strange behaviour!
[22:25] <multiverse> I notice that VMware Fusion 6.0.2 Unity on OS X 10.9.2 with Ubuntu 13.10 is greyed out.  What am I doing wrong?
[22:26] <wise_phone> Tj- thats a step in the righr direction!
[22:26] <jtrucks> how would I see the size of a file in the repos without downloading it? I'm hunting for someting from 11.04 so Im trying to figure out where to find it in http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty*
[22:26] <sadpuppy> fer sure
[22:26] <TJ-> wise_phone: Try rebooting *without* using "nomodeset" ... use "text" to have the system boot with a text rather than graphical console, until the X server (tries to) start
[22:26] <sadpuppy> distrowatch
[22:26] <multiverse> vmtoolsd is running
[22:26] <multiverse> Fusion offers "Reinstall VMware Tools" in "Virtual Machine" pulldown.
[22:26] <multiverse> Here's a screenshot:  https://tmpdmp.com/11380dcb5428fb6a/603cdaefbbd0eba1
[22:28] <jtrucks> sadpuppy: thanks
[22:30] <wise_phone> Tj- that just boots me to a blank unresponsive screen.
[22:30] <sadpuppy> np
[22:31] <jtrucks> sadpuppy: hmm. anywhere show actaul file lists and versions/sizes of libraries?
[22:31] <jtrucks> I'm trying to verify a library file on a machine..
[22:31] <TJ-> wise_phone: Does Alt+Ctrl+F1 get you nowhere?
[22:31] <sadpuppy> just pick a os
[22:32] <sadpuppy> top of page
[22:32] <wise_phone> Tj- nope
[22:34] <wise_phone> I booted up with i915.modeset=0 and it took me to the tty login..
[22:35] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, try also adding "text i915.modeset=0 debug" and remove "quiet splash" ... I'm afraid it's a case of trying permutations until we can get a firm lead on where to go
[22:35] <TJ-> wise_phone: haha you're ahead of me!
[22:35] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, if you're at the login, can you do "tail -n 1000 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"
[22:37] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116747
[22:37] <TJ-> wise_phone: After that, please try another reboot with "debug i915.modeset=0 i915.invert_brightness=1"
[22:39] <Ainsey11> anyone around?
[22:40] <wise_phone> Ok rebooted with those arguments
[22:42] <TJ-> wise_phone: Did you get a GUI, or TTYs?
[22:42] <xubuntu> hi
[22:43] <wise_phone> Tj- attemps to load gui, unresponsive blank screen.  I can access tty.
[22:43] <TJ-> wise_phone: I'm working through the kernel DRM source-code that generates the "*ERROR* Cannot initialize the agpgart module" message. It is a fatal error (drivers/gpu/drm/drm_stub.c::drm_dev_register() bails out if it fails)
[22:44] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK ... let's do the same stuff again, in case something changed: "tail -n 1200 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"
[22:45] <wise_phone> Paste.ubuntu.com/7116775
[22:48] <TJ-> wise_phone: I've read indications that this may be a bug in the kernel version, and 3.13 *may* fix it - found an Intel open-source labs changelog for the i915 driver that says that, but not entirely clear that applies to your specific system
[22:48] <wise_phone> Oh ok... Worth a try to update the kernel?
[22:49] <TJ-> wise_phone: not unless we can get a much better indication, else we are changing variables that might introduce other issues
[22:50] <TJ-> wise_phone: I've found a suggestion that this (kind of) issue might be solved simply using the kernel command-line option "video.backlight=vendor" ... try using that: "debug video.backlight=vendor" and remove "quiet splash"
[22:53] <wise_phone> Tj- that just booted me into an unresponsive blank screen, no way out.
[22:53] <TJ-> wise_phone: Grrr!
[22:54] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, another permutation: lets try influencing the ACPI side: "debug acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor"
[22:56] <pigiamino65> hello
[22:57] <wise_phone> Tj- same blank screen :/
[22:57] <pigiamino65> need help to recovery data from a damaged usb pendrive pls
[22:59] <pigiamino65> using GPated it sees nothing
[23:00] <pigiamino65> by disk manager it says generic usb flash disk
[23:00] <TJ-> wise_phone: I'm reading the kernel patches related to this stuff, no clues so far
[23:00] <pigiamino65> firmware 7.76
[23:01] <pigiamino65> with testdosk it sees nothing
[23:01] <pigiamino65> testdisk
[23:01] <pigiamino65> anyone can help me pls
[23:01] <Diamondcite> If it detects a 0Byte large USB drive, I have no idea how to get data back
[23:03] <pigiamino65> Diamondcite you mean no chance at all?
[23:04] <Diamondcite> pigiamino65: I had one of my USB keys pulled during a data write, my key died on the spot..
[23:04] <pigiamino65> the light on the usb device works
[23:04] <pigiamino65> could it be formatted ?
[23:04] <pigiamino65> it was used for little minutes by bad guy
[23:04] <pigiamino65> surely there is a trick
[23:05] <pigiamino65> but dont know if i have a chance or not
[23:05] <Diamondcite> pigiamino65: From online research, it might be possible to make the key usable again, but I haven't found any conventional means to get data back. Data recovery places will probably have better luck if they read what is on the chip directly instead of going through the built in controller
[23:05] <meep2424> hi all.  Quick question, I don't see an alternate 13.10 installer, is encrypted LVM an option with the normal ubiquity installer now?
[23:06] <pigiamino65> thanks can you recommend me any right place for my search?
[23:06] <TJ-> wise_phone: I think we *may* have found an explanation. I think you need to enter the system's UEFI setup at boot-time, find the Compatibility Support Module (CSM) aka Legacy BIOS option, and enable it.
[23:06] <TJ-> wise_phone: That may already be enabled, but if it isn't, enable it and try a normal boot without adding kernel command-line options
[23:07] <TJ-> meep2424: Yes
[23:07] <Diamondcite> pigiamino65: Sadly I don't have any recommendations, unless you want to look up how to read a flash chip directly. I don't remember the name, some had claimed there is a utility which can rewrite the drive's firmware to give it space visible again.
[23:07] <wise_phone> Tj- there is no csm or legacy option.
[23:08] <meep2424> thanks TJ-
[23:08] <wise_phone> Tj- secure boot is disabled.
[23:08] <TJ-> wise_phone: secure boot is OK; it's the CSM support that you need to enable
[23:10] <TJ-> wise_phone: The reason being, when in pure UEFI mode, the UEFI firmware is responsible for providing some video services and many UEFI images out there are buggy in that respect. Using CSM/Legacy allows the kernel to completely initialise the video hardware
[23:11] <wise_phone> Tj- there are no options to enable legacy or csm...
[23:11] <TJ-> wise_phone: Hmmm, I wonder what they call it!
[23:11] <Diamondcite> Secure boot?
[23:13] <west24352> just started on xubuntu - screensaver keeps kicking in, want to make the timeout longer but cannot find the place to set it, any help?
[23:14] <TJ-> wise_phone: Maybe that model only provides EFI video, in which case, we have to continue searching
[23:15] <wise_phone> Tj- possibly.  Under "boot type" the only option is uefi.
[23:16] <pigiamino65> Diamondcite: is it flashrom ?
[23:18] <TJ-> wise_phone: Yes, probably. anyhow, let's drop that avenue and go back to persuading the kernel to like the video chipset :)
[23:18] <TJ-> wise_phone:  I found this, which seems to be the most authoritative comments so far: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61671
[23:19] <mrogne> I'm having a heck of a time trying to figure out WHAT Is bound to control+alt+UP and control+alt+DOWN... as far as I can tell, nothing is. I've looked through compiz settings and don't see anything bound to them?? :(
[23:19] <TJ-> wise_phone: the take-away is that i915 *requires* modeset to function, so if we disable it in any way the error is expected... jsut not a very friendly or understandable message
[23:20] <MonkeyDust> mrogne  maybe you can use ccsm to bind an action to that key combination
[23:21] <mrogne> MonkeyDust: i want to make sure nothing is bound to them... i wanna use these in sublime text
[23:22] <darkman_> chaki
[23:22] <MonkeyDust> mrogne  then apparentally you can proceed :)
[23:22] <mrogne> eh?
[23:22] <TJ-> wise_phone: That suggests you may *need* "i915.modeset=1" in order to ensure KMS (Kernel Mode Setting)
[23:22] <darkman_> spanis?
[23:22] <MonkeyDust> mrogne  you say nothing has been bound to it, so what's the problem?
[23:22] <darkman_> elfo aleman?
[23:23] <mrogne> MonkeyDust: I said I can't find anything bound to it, but clearly something is
[23:23] <pigiamino65> ,
[23:23] <wise_phone> Tj- ill try that now.
[23:24] <MonkeyDust> mrogne  i'm not followong, why do you think there is, if you can't find what it is?
[23:24] <k1l> !sp | darkman_
[23:24] <k1l> !spanish | darkman_
[23:24] <mrogne> MonkeyDust: I can't tell if you're trolling me or not
[23:24] <mrogne> I'm going to assume you're not. It's gotta be bound to something because nothing is happening in sublime text. It's not even changing lines.
[23:24] <MonkeyDust> mrogne  i'ml trying to find out what's bothering you
[23:24] <darkman_> q top ese bot como ayud. Gracias :)
[23:25] <mrogne> Because I can't *find* anything bound to it, doesn't necessarily mean something isn't.
[23:25] <mrogne> Hence, I'm here.
[23:25] <TJ-> wise_phone: If that on it's own doesn't work I've found some additional options that may be required: "i915.modeset=1 i915.lvds_channel_mode=2 i915.lvds_use_ssc=0 acpi_backlight=vendor"
[23:27] <darkman_> bye
[23:29] <wise_phone> Tj- that didnt do it :/
[23:31] <mrogne> MonkeyDust: https://gist.github.com/mikerogne/9632231 - in case someone else runs into this.
[23:33] <TJ-> wise_phone: was that in response to the entry with "lvds_channel" in it?
[23:33] <wise_phone> Tj- yes
[23:34] <TJ-> wise_phone: without hands-on the system, I'm at a loss right now. I'm sure if I was in front of it I'd see something that would give me a clue
[23:34] <daftykins> can't take pics of each page of this system i take it?
[23:34] <daftykins> that's what i've had people do.
[23:34] <TJ-> wise_phone: I think it's time to try the latest mainline kernel!
[23:35] <wise_phone>  Tj- okay cool, how do i update?
[23:36] <TJ-> wise_phone: log-in. Create a temporary directory: "mkdir -p ~/Downloads/kernel/ && cd ~/Downloads/kernel"
[23:38] <wise_phone> K, done.
[23:39] <TJ-> wise_phone: I have a script I use here to get the lateset kernel; I've put it on my web-server so you can download it. "wget http://iam.tj/projects/misc/wget_kernel_mainline.sh"
[23:39] <TJ-> wise_phone: once it's downloaded make it executable: "chmod +x wget_kernel_mainline.sh"
[23:40] <TJ-> wise_phone: The, run it: "./wget_kernel_mainline.sh"
[23:41] <wise_phone> Ok, running.
[23:45] <TJ-> wise_phone: once the download is complete do "cd v3.14-rc7-trusty/"  then "sudo dpkg -i linux*{all,amd64}.deb" - that'll install the 64-bit packages and should run an update-grub to make this the default boot kernel. After that, you can try a reboot.
[23:46] <TJ-> wise_phone: actually, scratch that, that'll install too many kernel flavours, let me rework that
[23:49] <hawk_7><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:50] <TJ-> wise_phone: OK, that should be "cd v3.14-rc7-trusty/"  then "sudo dpkg -i linux-*rc7_*_all.deb linux-*generic*amd64.deb"
[23:51] <Guest46591> hi
[23:51] <Cinos> hi
[23:51] <wise_phone> K, installing. Tj-
[23:52] <TJ-> wise_phone: If this doesn't work I'm out of ideas for now!
[23:52] <wise_phone> Ok, done.  Reboot?
[23:54] <TJ-> wise_phone: Yes :)
[23:54] <amigamagic> Hi, I would like to know if this is a known issue with all Ubuntu distro: it's normal that heavy hard disk activity could hang your system at the point it will not respond anymore to the user?
[23:54] <TJ-> wise_phone: go to the GRUB menu... make sure that new version is the one booted
[23:55] <wise_phone> Tj- i did.  And guess what....
[23:55] <TJ-> wise_phone: I daren't guess!
[23:55] <TJ-> wise_phone: someone in ##linux has just reported the very same issue!
[23:56] <amigamagic> I mean: in other desktop/workstation operating systems, the user interaction is always prioritized, but this doesn't appear the case with ubuntu...
[23:56] <wise_phone> Tj- it worked. Im in unity!
[23:56] <TJ-> amigamagic: Yes, and there is a lowlatency kernel to help avoid it for GUI
[23:57] <TJ-> wise_phone: no way!?!?! And I just advised "Left_Turn" (from ##linux) to come here and observe!
[23:57] <amigamagic> I think I have reduced a little the problem by changing the "swappiness" variable with sysctl
[23:57] <Left_Turn> yep i idle here TJ- :)
[23:57] <amigamagic> I changed to 5 (from 60)
[23:58] <amigamagic> and now it appear to be better
[23:58] <TJ-> Left_Turn: Oh, OK, so there's a possible solution then. Install the mainline kernels
[23:58] <wise_phone> Yeah!!! Tj- you are the man, ya know!
[23:58] <TJ-> wise_phone: thank goodness we got it ... I'd have gone to bed depressed otherwise :p
[23:58] <Left_Turn> but my problem is im booting the iso... it doesnt make it to the terminal
[23:59] <amigamagic> TJ, there is a new kernel to give more priority to the gui?
[23:59] <TJ-> Left_Turn: OK ... you need to use "nomodeset" I think and let it run in low-graphics mode
[23:59] <Left_Turn> oh thats 1 of the boot options? ill try
[23:59] <wise_phone> For some reason i had to logon as a guest, but thats probably completely unrelated.