[19:09] <asd__123123123> well i typed everything here http://justgetflux.com/linux.html
[19:09] <OerHeks> asd__123123123, on what ubuntu version ? 12.04 or 13.04 ?
[19:09] <asd__123123123> latest
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> asd__123123123  ppa's are not supported, better contact the gui who created or maintains it
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> guy*
[19:10] <zykotick9> asd__123123123: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." you need to correct whatever is causing that.  try, "sudo apt-get -f install" (-f is a general "fix")
[19:10] <lmat> bekks: good to know :) Perhaps you can update the wiki ?
[19:11] <cbkg11> I am having trouble installing nvidia-current on my Elementary OS, I get the following error: "update-alternatives: error: alternative link /usr/bin/nvidia-cuda-mps-server is already managed by x86_64-linux-gnu_nvidia-cuda-mps-server (slave of x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf).", can someone help out?
[19:11] <asd__123123123> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[19:11] <bazhang> cbkg11, check with elementary support
[19:11] <OerHeks> asd__123123123, lots of issues on http://justgetflux.com/linux.html, better drop it untill fixed
[19:12] <mrrcp> FUCK FUCK FUCK
[19:13] <mrrcp> oops
[19:13] <FloodBot1> mrrcp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:13] <mrrcp> wrong room
[19:13] <arctan> can i install the 64bit version of memcache with apt?
[19:13] <Quest> is there a player (except vlc) that can play .wmv / . mov files with change/faster speed?
[19:13] <asd__123123123> gom maybe?
[19:13] <bazhang> Quest, mplayer
[19:13] <Quest> bazhang,  no player speed change option in that
[19:14] <bazhang> Quest, hold the .
[19:15] <alastor__> what's the easiest way to create an icon that runs a shell command?
[19:16] <rb-tnc> lmat: here is error i found in there http://paste.ubuntu.com/6125232/  ...any idea?
[19:16] <alastor__> for instance, i want to run gnome-terminal (it's not my default terminal) but I would like to have an icon for it on the desktop rather than needing to open up my own terminal and type 'gnome-terminal' to launch it
[19:19] <Quest> bazhang,  what?
[19:19] <monkwitdafunk> Ubuntu!
[19:19] <monkwitdafunk> My doctor uses ubuntu
[19:22] <mapreri> something like "0 */48 * * * " in a crontab should make the script run every 2 days, isn't it?
[19:22] <OerHeks> alastor__, more info on launchers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[19:22] <alastor__> OerHeks: kthx i'll look at it
[19:23] <cmaiz82> I have ubuntu 13.04 instaled, please how can i install gnome shell now?
[19:24] <zykotick9> !notunity | cmaiz82
[19:25] <cmaiz82> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell?
[19:26] <forgotmynick> Programs slow down when RAM usage reaches 70-75% - is this a sign of bad RAM?
[19:26] <ikonia> forgotmynick: not really no
[19:26] <ikonia> forgotmynick: what's the programs eating the ram ?
[19:26] <ikonia> forgotmynick: what's the programs that are slowing down ?
[19:27] <forgotmynick> ikonia i'm intentionally filling the ram using my own application. Anything from loading the terminal window to even gedit take several seconds and lock the machine.
[19:28] <ikonia> forgotmynick: if you use up ram - there is less ram for applications to use, this is expected behaviour
[19:28] <forgotmynick> ikonia i think you're missing my point
[19:28] <ikonia> forgotmynick: try again,
[19:31] <rb-tnc> My nautilus (and nemo prior to removing it) constantly crashes when accessing the right-click menu, when i actually click new, rename, open with.. is when it crashes. Here is error i found in dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/6125299/  ...anyone have any idea?
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> forgotmynick, Have you changed the swappiness to compensate this ram use?
[19:32] <GarrettKajmowicz> If I get kicked to the Bsybox shell on boot, how can I resume the boot process once I've mounted the root filesystem?
[19:32] <forgotmynick> wilee-nilee i've disabled the swap
[19:32] <Joe_Schmo2840> Whatsup guys
[19:33] <Joe_Schmo2840> Im having a terrible time setting up vncserver
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> forgotmynick, ah well carry on.
[19:33] <zykotick9> forgotmynick: seems to me, you are creating your own problems...
[19:33] <Joe_Schmo2840> It seems as tho no matter what session i use I get an error that it could not locate the session or it just gives me a background and no toolbars
[19:33] <OerHeks> forgotmynick, so you wonder why processes get slow without swap and stressing the OS ?
[19:33] <ikonia> zykotick9: I'm totally missing the point too - fill up ram = bad performance
[19:34] <Steen> I have my pc with dualboot. And after startup.. I get this screen for a few seconds where i can choose what OS i want. This screen is only visible for a few seconds. If i miss it, it starts up with an OS I might not want that day. Question: How can I disable the timer or edit this setup in any way?
[19:34] <Joe_Schmo2840> steen what bootloader?
[19:34] <nacitar> I'm not running ubuntu, but I'm interested in what the lowest versions of certain packages were ever offered for a particular version of ubuntu (for example, the lowest firefox available in apt)... what's a good way to find out?
[19:34] <forgotmynick> OerHeks why would it lock at 70% and not 80% or 90%?
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> Steen, If it is grub you can set the timeout in /etc/default/grub
[19:36] <Steen> probably grub.. the one that came with the latest Ubuntu version. (i'm a ubuntu starter)
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> run a update grub after adjusting
[19:36] <dhyana> anyone from India?
[19:36] <ikonia> dhyana: why ?
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> !in
[19:37] <dhyana> ok
[19:37] <Joe_Schmo2840> so can anyone give me some guidance with an xstartup vnc cionfig?
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> Steen, run gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub change this GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 save and run sudo update-grub
[19:37] <zykotick9> Steen: what you are looking for is in /etc/default/grub (fyi, you need to run "sudo update-grub" after making any changes to that file.  be sure to read about grub2 setting before hand.  best of luck.
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> put a nuber you want it is seconds steen
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> number*
[19:38] <Steen> ok thanks..found the file.. now editing
[19:39] <quantumpants_> hi all
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> Steen, Stock would be 10, what does it say?
[19:41] <Steen> it says 10 indeed
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> Steen, Cool set it as you need it, when you adjust this file you always run sudo update-grub to have it work.
[19:43] <pgilbert> need some info
[19:44] <pgilbert> can anybody help
[19:44] <pgilbert> ???
[19:44] <Steen> do i get some visual conformation that i really changed it?
[19:44] <Steen> oh wait.. i can reopen the file offcourse
[19:44] <Pici> pgilbert: We can only help if you ask a question.
[19:44] <pgilbert> lol ok
[19:45] <pgilbert> i need to remote access my xxubuntu from microsoft machine
[19:45] <pgilbert> i tried all the tools but cait to work n never get
[19:45] <irreverant> bah!
[19:45] <irreverant> Ok i'm done trying to mess with this client
[19:46] <Steen> How do i @ someone in IRC.. (haven't used it since '92)
[19:46] <zykotick9> !tab | Steen
[19:46] <Steen> thanks
[19:47] <zykotick9> Steen: but DON'T put @, just use Steen zykotick9 etc.
[19:47] <GarrettKajmowicz> Is there a good channel to discuss boot script errors and diagnostics?
[19:47] <Steen> wilee-nilee, Thanks.. it all worked so far.. I noticed "GRUB_DEFAULT=0".. if i change this in say 5.. will grub start with the fifth option?
[19:48] <zykotick9> Steen: yes, but the counting can sometimes be "odd" ;)
[19:49] <Steen> zykotick9, ..is there a list where i can see what number is what option? Or do i have to restart to find out?
[19:50] <zykotick9> Steen: restarting is probably easiest... but i think /boot/grub.cfg "might" also have it?
[19:50] <Steen> zykotick9, ..thanks.. let me found out..
[19:51] <silvio-> are there any online tools for testing the format of an init.d script?
[19:52] <pgilbert> any good remote access tool for xubuntu
[19:52] <zykotick9> silvio-: on ubuntu you might want to consider upstart?  or not?  but i'm unaware of any "tool" to test either
[19:54] <pgilbert> rename
[19:55] <zykotick9> pgilbert: <i'm just joking.. but> ssh should be all you need for most stuff, and ssh+xforwarding for running the occasional gui app...  but look into vnc or vx?orSomeotheralternative_i_forget.  best of luck.
[19:55] <pgilbert> thanks\
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> Steen, That is for defaulting the line read 0 is the first line, so if you wanted to have it boot the other OS you would count the lines starting at 0.
[19:57] <Steen> wilee-nilee, Thanks.. I checked grub.cfg to check what number is what option.. but it's a bit to jibberish to decifer. But i've changed the boottime so im totally happy now..
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> Steen, Hehe, no problem some want say grub to default to windows instead, that is where you would do it.
[19:58] <Steen> wilee-nilee, zykotick9, ubottu, thanks for your help..
[19:59] <zykotick9> !nx | this was the vnc alternative i was thinking of... but i guess pgilbert left, but incase anyone else wanted to know...
[20:06] <valeness> So, there is a file that I have that's 7.6 Gb, but when I go to properties it says the Size on Disk is 61.3 Gb. Am I missing something here?
[20:07] <bekks> valeness: Thats called a "sparse" file.
[20:07] <valeness> Ah, can I make it, uhm, not do that?
[20:07] <valeness> I would like to copy the file to my flash drive...
[20:09] <TheOvermind> hello world. this chat is new to me
[20:09] <wolfy1339> anyone know how i can install ubuntu on an external hdd? btw i have one usb, and no cd/dvd
[20:10] <new2ubuntu> hey how is everone..
[20:10] <new2ubuntu> i have a quick question - and for some reason cant post it in forums
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> wolfy1339, Use a manual install, a external will run slow though.
[20:10] <zykotick9> wolfy1339: you have i hd + one usbkey that you can use?
[20:10] <new2ubuntu> what is the login and password for ubuntu live usb?
[20:10] <new2ubuntu> this is a first time install/run so i haven't set anything!
[20:10] <ikonia> new2ubuntu: it shouldn't ask you for one
[20:11] <ikonia> new2ubuntu: should auto log you in to the desktop
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> new2ubuntu, If you are having to boot in you have a bad iso or burn.
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> oe usb load
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> or*
[20:11] <shodan45> anyone have a system 76 laptop?
[20:11] <ikonia> shodan45: why ?
[20:11] <BluesKaj> wolfy1339, recommend using a esata connection for your external if youwant to run an OS on it , usb as wilee-nilee says will be slow
[20:12] <wolfy1339> zykotick9, yes i have usb key and 1 external hdd, i don't want to put it on my main hdd since i only have 128gb
[20:12] <shodan45> ikonia: I want to know opinions on their keyboards
[20:12] <TheOvermind> Hey guys, im new to this chat tihng
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> shodan45, The is a system76 portion of the ubuntu forums, here state the issues.
[20:12] <ikonia> shodan45: try ##hardware
[20:13] <new2ubuntu_> i know it shouldn't ask for one but it did
[20:13] <ikonia> new2ubuntu: ok, that suggests something is wrong with your media
[20:13] <zykotick9> wolfy1339: then it should be straight forward.  put the usb onto the usb key and install, just select your external hd to install onto.  and i certainly agree with everyone else, OS on USB is slow, if you have estat - USE THAT.
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> TheOvermind, This is ubuntu support welcome, if you have issues tell them to the channel.
[20:13] <wolfy1339> i have a win 8 pro tablet and don't have any ports except for usb and microsdxc
[20:13] <TheOvermind> Oh, alright then.
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> wolfy1339, You would have a faster install on a flash usb, still slower than a internal however.
[20:14] <new2ubuntu_> i tried older versions of the iso also, and different USB sticks and it still asks for it
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | new2
[20:15] <new2ubuntu_> well i will eventually intall onto the hard drive..but it wouldn't let me select that without a login password either
[20:15] <ikonia> new2ubuntu: the password should be ubuntu - but again, if it's asking for it, you have a problem with your media
[20:15] <TheOvermind> A question: Is this Xchat safe from being tapped into by thired partes?
[20:15] <ikonia> TheOvermind: what are you talking about ?
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> new2ubuntu_, see the bots info on md5sum
[20:15] <Strit> new2ubuntu: if it asks you for a password, then you are not logging in to a live session. You sure it's booted from the USB?
[20:15] <new2ubuntu_> icool thanks
[20:16] <TheOvermind> ikonia what i am talking about is secure chatrooms
[20:16] <zykotick9> TheOvermind: LOL, ahhh this channel is logged - everyone has a copy
[20:16] <new2ubuntu_> yea - its definitely not on the hard drive - i had to write the mbr.bin to get it to recognize the iso and used unetbootin to make the usb
[20:16] <ikonia> TheOvermind: it's a client - it has nothing to do with the channel/services you connect to
[20:16] <TheOvermind> :L im sorry, i just had to ask. i just opened this thing today
[20:17] <TheOvermind> so you mean that it is safe i guess?
[20:17] <ikonia> TheOvermind: no - read what I said
[20:17] <TheOvermind> ...K i feel stupid now DX
[20:17] <zykotick9> TheOvermind: but there is something you can do.  get a freenode cloak, see the details in the PM from ubottu when you run "/msg ubottu cloak"
[20:18] <TheOvermind> Ok, thank you sir.
[20:18] <eos> hi everybody. I haev Enlightment which I start when I need to use all the memory and CPU of my laptop to crunch numbers, but I canon only connect to the wireless using the command line. Is there a good connection manager that I cna use in all the different desktop managers?
[20:20] <boneslash> hi guys
[20:21] <Andrew32> Hello. Please, how can I easily add a package from saucy (http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/php5-fpm) to my 13.04?
[20:21] <R1ck3rd> hello people
[20:22] <boneslash> I am thinking about Ubuntu 13.10 but I see there is no support for it on this channel, do you know when will be added support for Ubuntu 13.10 out there?? :)
[20:22] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 boneslash
[20:23] <Pici> boneslash: when it relases... in October.
[20:23] <boneslash> I think It is already released am I right, btw thanks for the help
[20:23] <zykotick9> Andrew32: just adding 1 package is usually impossible.  you need all the dependencies as well... mixing binary packages across releases like that is a bad idea... it will lead to tears 9 times out of 10 ;)  i'd think you'd need an entire new php for this, and that might break everything else...  good luck.
[20:24] <DrFaustus> what's SS1 and SS3?
[20:24] <faugusztin> Andrew32: why not just compile your own php ?
[20:25] <TheOvermind> hey, me again, Is it possible to make a chat server of my own?
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> TheOvermind, ask in #freenode
[20:25] <kostkon> !ircd | TheOvermind
[20:26] <kostkon> :/
[20:26] <zykotick9> TheOvermind: you could run your own irc server (but i wouldn't recommend it).  look into jabber or something else...
[20:27] <Pici> TheOvermind: You can make your own channel on freenode easily enough if you want, just ask for help in #freenode
[20:28] <TheOvermind> Ok
[20:28] <TheOvermind> I will try that
[20:29] <TheOvermind> But granted i do not know much about this place, first day
[20:29] <GarrettKajmowicz> If I get kicked to the Bsybox shell on boot, how can I resume the boot process once I've mounted the root filesystem?
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> TheOvermind, there is info in the channel header, reead it.
[20:29] <TheOvermind> very well.
[20:32] <TheOvermind> Stupid question: Would that header be the hyperlink bar above the chat, or somewhere else :/
[20:33] <neekz0r> TheOvermind: not a stupid question, i've never heard of a 'channel header' either, i suspect he means the topic
[20:34] <neekz0r> TheOvermind: IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | IRC info: http://ubottu.com/y/irc
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> TheOvermind, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines  http://ubottu.com/y/irc
[20:34] <DrFaustus> which BIOS option is better 4 ubuntu:SS1 or SS3 ?
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> TheOvermind, This is ubuntu support as well so irc questions are really #freenode related
[20:35] <valeness> So, can anyone explain to me these files that are like 5 gigs, but says 80 gigs on disk? :)
[20:35] <TheOvermind> alright, thank you guys
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> valeness, Are you reading the write info? disc's mean HD right?
[20:36] <BluesKaj> valeness, maybe it's 5G used out of the 80G available
[20:36] <alpha_> once I logged in to ubuntu 12.04 as unity 2D ... but i have a problem with unity ... its size was larger and I can't change it
[20:37] <valeness> BluesKaj: No, because the size on disk is relevant to the file size
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, Can you access display?
[20:37] <valeness> wilee-nilee: Yes
[20:37] <alpha_> yes
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, And, what do you see?
[20:37] <alpha_> but when i logged as Gnome shell i can see the unity
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, Logged in from the login gui?
[20:38] <BluesKaj> valeness, no kidding
[20:38] <alpha_> i can see all of the screen but the unity's icons are larger than pas
[20:38] <alpha_> yes
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> !who | alpha_
[20:38] <alpha_> past*
[20:39] <valeness> BluesKaj: Well it would make no sense for the size on disk to mean space available then. It sounds like that's what you were suggesting.
[20:39] <emx> is there a keyboard shortcut that minimises a window?
[20:39] <alpha_> while-nile : ooh im sorry
[20:39] <Timvde> Hi. The backlight of my laptop turns off randomly (and quite often, at worst cases every few seconds). Ubuntu 13.04. I haven't found anything in my logfiles yet, but it is very annoying to search them when my screen keeps turning off...
[20:40] <faugusztin> emx: right click on titlebar, find minimize, shortcut is next to it
[20:40] <alpha_> ubuttu : sorry .
[20:40] <BluesKaj> valeness, what exactly do you want to do ?
[20:40] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : can you solve my problem ?
[20:41] <letalis> i dont know if this is the [place i should ask a question regarding policykit but i was wondering if theres a way to use pkexec to execute multiple commands without the use of a script?
[20:41] <valeness> BluesKaj: Well, the size on disk is preventing me from copying my file to a Flash Drive
[20:41] <letalis> theyre low security things but require elevation
[20:41] <valeness> I was just curious as to why the size on disk is appearing to be so large.
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, what you describe does not make sense seeing unity from the shell for one, you also are not answering question, and ones you are a one word answer, we are not farthet along that when we started.
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> farther*
[20:41] <emx> faugusztin, i don't see any shortcuts in that menu.
[20:42] <BluesKaj> valeness, and how large is your flash drive ?
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, One problem at a time helps, we started with resolution.
[20:42] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : what questions should I answer ?
[20:42] <faugusztin> emx: well, there should be, but anyway https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts :)
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, when you access disply what do you see, can you change it?
[20:44] <alpha_> wilee_nilee : no no ... there is not any panel for change unity's icons size
[20:44] <exobyte> When I run this as root, I don't pick up the user's PATH.  Why not?  sudo -u user -i printenv PATH
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, I'm  not sure on icon sizes, I don;t use unity, there is a change the panel width from a right click on the desktop though.
[20:45] <zykotick9> valeness: is this on an ext4 partition?  do you know how to use terminal, enough to cd to the directory with the file and run "ls -s foo" then "ls -sh foo" and report back what each says?
[20:45] <valeness> Aye, I'm capable of that
[20:45] <valeness> One second
[20:46] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : how can I show you a picture of my desktop  ?
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> !screnshot | alpha_
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> !screenshot
[20:46] <alpha_> wilee-nilee: I know .. but where can i upload that ?
[20:46] <DrFaustus> which BIOS option is better 4 ubuntu:SS1 or SS3 ?
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> http://imagebin.org/?page=add like the bot shows alpha_
[20:48] <valeness> zykostick9: It says "No such file or directory" on both commands
[20:48] <naftilos76> Has anyone tried parallella?
[20:48] <faugusztin> DrFaustus: well, we  first need to know what those options even mean :D
[20:48] <zykotick9> valeness: ;) replace foo with the REAL filename in both cases
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> DrFaustus, what area are those in I don't recognize that, is it SSD drives
[20:49] <valeness> BAH, I feel dumb xD
[20:49] <TheOvermind> Your not the only one
[20:49] <exobyte> naftilos76: getting one, I think
[20:49] <TheOvermind> I LIKE WAFFLES EVERBODY! XD
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> !ot | TheOvermind,
, <wilee-nilee>, in BIOS settings
[20:50] <naftilos76> exobyte: Is it supposed to run like hell? It's really cool if it is true :-)
[20:50] <valeness> /home/valeness/Downloads/Borderlands.2-SKIDROW/sr-borderlands2.iso
[20:50] <valeness> Bah
[20:50] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : see this : http://imagebin.org/271306
[20:50] <faugusztin> DrFaustus: what board or what device ?
[20:50] <valeness> for -s, i get "7486284 sr-borderlands2.iso
[20:50] <k1l> valeness: we dont support warez in here
[20:51] <valeness> *facedesk*
[20:51] <Timvde> The backlight of my laptop turns off randomly (and quite often, at worst cases every few seconds). Ubuntu 13.04. I haven't found anything in my logfiles yet, but it is very annoying to search them when my screen keeps turning off...
[20:51] <valeness> Any particular reason?
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, 2d does not allow you to change the unity panel width is all.
[20:51] <k1l> valeness: the reason should be obvious.
[20:51] <valeness> It's not, enlighten me.
[20:51] <faugusztin> Timvde: can you rule out hardware issue ?
[20:52] <valeness> to assume it's theft can be a drawn out and lengthy discussion with no definite answer.
[20:52] <Timvde> faugusztin: No :)
[20:52] <k1l> !warez > valeness
[20:52] <Strit> valeness, Skidrow are know pirateers
[20:52] <Timvde> faugusztin: Ubuntu is the only OS installed on this laptop, so I can't test it on Windows
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> DrFaustus, really, there are usually at least 4 sections in a bios, I also asked if the ss#'s are ssd drives.
[20:52] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : but when I logged in ubuntu as ordinary i cant see unity and toolbar
[20:52] <DrFaustus> gigabyte s-series,<faugusztin>
[20:52] <faugusztin> Timvde: you can let the system run in BIOS
[20:53] <faugusztin> DrFaustus: what option is that
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, Have you looked in additional drivers after doing a full update/upgrade for missing graphic drivers?
[20:53] <alpha_> wile-nilee : there is a beta driver for my Graphic card ... should I install that ?
[20:54] <Timvde> faugusztin: Whether or not it is a hardware issue, do you have any idea what logfile might help? I looked in dmesg and /var/log/syslog, without any result.
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, I would install what is suggested, is ythere more than one choice, additionally graphic drivers are not my forte is all.
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> there*
[20:55] <barus> 'oo'
[20:55] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : there is just one choice to install
[20:55] <faugusztin> Timvde: i would say dmesg command and Xorg.0.log could log something about that, if it was a result of software. If it is your backlight dying, then there is nothing to be reported, because backlight is just that, a backlight :)
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, You can find the graphic info by running lspci in the terminal include that here when asking for help if you do not get this fixed.
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, You could try it, I'm just not the one that can definitively help you in this area is all
[20:56] <faugusztin> Timvde: it could be a cable being cut, or simple tear & wear of the backlight
[20:57] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : ok .. thank you so much
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, No problem, I just don;t want to leave you stranded is all. ;)
[20:58] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : now , what should I do exactly ?
,it's in cpu power management
[20:59] <RageYL> hi =)
[20:59] <Timvde> faugusztin: Hmm. Thanks anyway, I'm off now. I'll try the BIOS thing later :)
[21:00] <RageYL> sorry to annoy you but in 1 year it's the 5 times i try to set up a vpn in an ubuntu lts, but it always fail...
,it's not about ssd's
[21:00] <k1l> !details | RageYL
[21:03] <faugusztin> DrFaustus: then you mean S1 or S3 sleep mode, not SS1 and SS3... well, not sure about the answer, i never required sleep mode on a ubuntu system
[21:03] <RageYL> i have followed the tutorial of ubuntu
[21:03] <RageYL> my server side seems to start normaly
[21:03] <k1l> RageYL: what ubuntu, what tutorial, what errormessages? etc etc etc
[21:03] <RageYL> but my client stop on "link remote" line
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, If it were me I would run the lspci and identify the graphic info, than check the web and or the channel with the driver suggested, since it is listed as a beta, It may be fine and your home free, I just use a method in general that is opposite of my nick.
[21:03] <RageYL> for the tutorial: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/openvpn
, that's right , sorry it's my fault
[21:03] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : thanks.
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> DrFaustus, Not sure on the answer, I would want full cpu when needed is all, you can use tab to complete nicks here.
[21:03] <RageYL> i use a server host on amazone web service
[21:03] <RageYL> with a ubuntu 12 LTS
[21:03] <RageYL> i have also tried other tutorials but they don't work too (no useful to link them so)
[21:04] <RageYL> my client side error: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e61bee930739c52a1393
[21:04] <RageYL> (not error just timeout)
,  tab is not working
[21:05] <RageYL> ups fail: https://gist.github.com/34e78028f5bc0d3a9bfb
[21:06] <RageYL> (my client is on archlinux)
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> DrFaustus, you on a phone, all you do is type some of the nick and hit tab.
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> no biggie just makes it easier at times is all
[21:08] <jhutchins>  I like the clients that will repeat the last nic if you tab on a blank line, but they don't all do that (irssi doesn't).
[21:08] <jhutchins> Handy for ongoing conversations.
[21:09] <k1l> RageYL: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/faq/79-client/253-tls-error-tls-key-negotiation-failed-to-occur-within-60-seconds-check-your-network-connectivity.html
[21:09] <RageYL> thx i take a look
[21:09] <k1l> RageYL: are you sure its the ubuntu servers fault and not your clients fault?
[21:09] <RageYL> k1l: i am comming here because i am totaly lost
[21:09] <RageYL> so i don't know
[21:10] <RageYL> but as my server is starting without error you must be right
[21:10] <k1l> RageYL: so i would see the arch support and test if the client is working
[21:10] <RageYL> k
[21:10] <Daghdha> Hi, some voice is reading out all text on my screen, how can i stop that?
[21:11] <RageYL> someone host me with the same stuff and everything he gave me work pretty well
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> Daghdha, turn off Orca
[21:15] <barus> iptraf
[21:16] <Daghdha> sudo apt-get remove gnome-orca
[21:16] <Daghdha> killall orca
[21:16] <Daghdha> will that be ok?
[21:16] <Strit> killall orca should do it
[21:16] <k1l> Daghdha: just turn it off in the first place
[21:16] <Strit> remove it only if you want to get rid of it entirely
[21:16] <k1l> it should be in the system settings
[21:17] <Daghdha> i want it removed
[21:17] <Strit> then kill it and remove it.
[21:17] <Daghdha> i don't know why it started talking in the first place, it is gone now
[21:17] <Strit> shouldn't harm the rest of the system.
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Daghdha, NOt sure if orca is part of a meta set, if off you should not have a problem if that is what it is.
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Daghdha, You turned it on it has a button in the top panel I believe.
[21:18] <SubCool> could someone explain a lil the VNC over SSH? im folloowing the guide- but im not sure if its actually working
[21:19] <ikonia> SubCool: test it...
[21:21] <Daghdha> I think i installed 12.04 can installing updates from the update manager increase  this number?
[21:21] <SubCool> ikonia, i get that.. but.. im saying.. i use this command.
[21:21] <SubCool> ssh -L 5901:localhost:5901 -N -f -l rocky sshserver.mydomain.com - but nothing happens.. the prompt goes back to user
[21:24] <RageYL> k1l: do you know a means to diagnostic what is the problem ?
[21:24] <RageYL> because all my iptables are in "accept" mode
[21:25] <mistaknly> I have a performance question..
[21:25] <SubCool> So this is what i have working.. i have SSH'ed into the machine, and rand X11vnc - and now i am connected. But- i would like to make the vnc connect encrypted.. i thought using that one command.. would work. .but- im not sure if it is.. how do i test it
[21:27] <jhutchins> SubCool: You're probably going to have to resort to reading the docs and finding out whether your copy of X11vnc uses encryption.  Some vnc servers do, some don't.
[21:27] <SubCool> .... i dont think im explainging myself thoroughly enough.
[21:28] <ikonia> SubCool: the encyption is the ssh layer
[21:28] <SubCool> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/tunneling-vnc-connections-over-ssh-howto.html
[21:28] <SubCool> when i use this command: ssh -L 5901:localhost:5901 -N -f -l rocky sshserver.mydomain.com
[21:28] <SubCool> this is what my output displays
[21:28] <ikonia> SubCool: ssh is the thing doing the encuption
[21:28] <ikonia> encryption
[21:30] <SubCool> i understand ..
[21:30] <SubCool> but using that comand has no output
[21:30] <SubCool> i cant display what its been doing- but it would ask for a password, and then just move back to the prompt
[21:31] <SubCool> no ssh, no vnc windows.. nothing
[21:31] <Guest72430> Question what -t stand for or do in this command  sudo mkfs -t ext5 /dev/sdb1       ???
[21:31] <ikonia> SubCool: what are you talking about it displays no output - it shouldn't it's creating a tunnel
[21:31] <ggherdov> hello. How do I upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04 via the command line ? (it's an ubuntu server, no X)
[21:32] <ikonia> Guest72430: tha command doesn't exist
[21:32] <ikonia> Guest72430: ext5 does not exist
[21:32] <SubCool> so- after i run that command.. any vnc connection is run in ssh?
[21:33] <ikonia> SubCool: that is the encypted tunnel your vnc connection is running over
[21:34] <jhutchins> SubCool: Only the connection to localhost:5901.
[21:35] <SubCool> subcool@subcoolT60:/home$ ssh -L 5901:localhost:5901 -N -f -l subcool IP subcool@IP's password:
[21:35] <SubCool> subcool@subcoolT60:/home$
[21:35] <SubCool> jhutchins, you said local host, now what if im trying to do this over the internet
[21:36] <SubCool> best way i can figure to test it is sniff the data
[21:36] <StarFlower> ggherdov,  you should be able to download 12.04 and verify the checksum then mount it to /media/cdrom or wherever you want to mount. then run  'sudo sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade
[21:37] <ggherdov> StarFlower: ok. I was hoping in something driven by apt, even if it involved several intermediate updates. But yeah, why not the cdrom.
[21:38] <joelteon> is it possible to install packages built for newer ubuntus on an older one?
[21:38] <day> is there a specific channel for tablets/ubuntu?
[21:38] <StarFlower> I think apt might want to upgrade you to 13.04 or 13.10
[21:39] <joelteon> specifically, haskell-yesod is 1.2.1 on saucy salamander, but my travis build box is using precise pangolin, which has yesod 0.10.1, which is WAY too old
[21:39] <joelteon> I don't have control over what OS the build box uses
[21:39] <ggherdov> StarFlower: ah. no, it's my server (even if for hobby project), would like to keep it to a LTS
[21:39] <ggherdov> thanks
[21:40] <StarFlower> ggherdov: your welcome
[21:40] <SubCool> i dont undertand.. and its getting to me.
[21:40] <SubCool> bind: Address already in use
[21:40] <SubCool> channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 5901
[21:40] <SubCool> Could not request local forwarding.
[21:40] <joelteon> or is my request entirely nonsensical
[21:40] <SubCool> so- the local port is listening... does that mean only non wan addresses? -
[21:41] <k1l> day: #ubuntu-arm for regular ubuntu on arm or #ubuntu-touch for he tablet/smartphone system
[21:45] <InevBetrayal> hi everyone! I managed to install ubuntu 12.04 on my 2009 unibody macbookpro. Gave it a 4GB swap (from a previous failed instalation) and a 12GB partition. I can boot to GRUB (to pick which OS to boot with) but when i pick Ubuntu, it won't boot, just display either a purple or dark screen. Any ideas?
[21:47] <OerHeks> InevBetrayal, did you check the mactel pages? i think you need to add nomodeset to your grub https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[21:47] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[21:47] <jhutchins> SubCool: The idea here is that you create a "tunnel" with ssh that connects a port on your local machine with the remote machine.  Connect to that port locally and it's as if you were connecting to the remote machine.  The command to set up the port doesn't return anything - it djust does it, although I think you can add a -v -vv or -vvv option for increasing feedback.
[21:49] <day> k1l: ty
[21:49] <InevBetrayal> OerHeks, i was only able to start instalation after adding the nomodeset, ill try looking up how to add it to grub, thank you!
[21:50] <cmaiz82> please, can you tell me how can i change my screen resolution on KDE???
[21:51] <ftyfuiuj> join #ubuntu
[21:52] <OerHeks> InevBetrayal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring_GRUB_2
[21:53] <fishcooker> how to list content of the disk drive that have folder size above 700MB?
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, the disk usage analyzer gives some info might work for you
[21:54] <InevBetrayal> OerHeks, thanks! the lack of the nomodeset is most likely the problem, i'm going to try to configure grub and ill be right back!
[21:55] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Edit /etc/default/grub to make it permanent
[21:55] <fishcooker> i only have access on terminal wilee-nilee; how to list content of the disk drive that have folder size above 700MB in command line?(i want to move all that over700MB to another disk)
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, Not sure myself from a cli.
[21:56] <fishcooker> *i mean folder over 700MB
[21:56] <fishcooker> err folders
[21:56] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: add nomodeset at the end of the line that says "splash quit"
[21:56] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Then run sudo update-grub
[21:57] <wessel> Is it possible to sleep ubuntu 13.4 without a swap partition?
[21:57] <wessel> My ubuntu can sleep, but it won't wake up properly
[21:57] <wessel> goes crazy slow
[21:58] <wessel> I heard that it can have something to do with graphics drivers
[21:58] <Ari-Yang> wessel, what card do you have? and what driver are you using, open source or proprietary?
[21:59] <wessel> GeForece 9800 GT
[21:59] <wessel> (proprietary, tested)
[21:59] <wessel> Binary Xorg driver
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> wessel, YOu should have a swap in general, it is for hibernation and swappiness, but sleep should happen without it.
[22:00] <wessel> Can I still get a swap?
[22:00] <wessel> I have unpartitioned space
[22:01] <wessel> I don't want to hibernate, I want to sleep, but okay
[22:01] <wessel> suspend it what 'sleep' is called
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> wessel, You just want to be aware of partition types and limitations on a standard primary and extended msdos partitioning setup.
[22:03] <wessel> I don't understand when to use primary or when to use logical partition
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> wessel, This is just swap stuff the sleep I'm not sure of the answer.
[22:03] <wessel> I have only a 250GB SSD, I think this partition is 80GB rest is free space
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> wessel, can you run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the output.
[22:04] <wessel> ~paste
[22:04] <wessel> ~paste
[22:04] <wessel> !paste
[22:04] <FloodBot1> wessel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | wessel
[22:04] <wessel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6125834/
[22:05] <InevBetrayal> arayaq, in grub, i have "quiet splash nomodeset $vt_handoff" (and "quiet splash $vt_handoff nomodeset") hit ctrl+x to boot, but now all i get is a command prompt, and the only way i get to leave this is to hard shutdown :/
[22:06] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Can you paste you /etc/default/grub?
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> wessel, Cool you just have one primary, so you can add a swap, it should be just slightly larger than your ram amount. Here is a trim link as well since you have a SSD. https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[22:06] <wessel> I have 32GB
[22:06] <wessel> will take up quite a bit of disk space
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> wessel, That link has some info on swappiness
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> wessel, Hmm, well since you have so much ram I would investigate what is really needed for your use, equal to ram is for hibernate or really high usage is all.
[22:08] <Connor> Hello..  I need some help..I just upgraded my 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS.  I'm trying to migrate my theme over.. and almost have it right.. but, I'm having some issues with a few specific things.
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> equal to ram for hibernate primarily, to be more succinct.
[22:08] <wessel> wilee-nilee, I never hibernate, but sometimes my computer goes to sleep, when I stay away from my computer to long
[22:08] <ikonia> Connor: you're going to have huge problems with that
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> Connor, server or desktop?
[22:09] <wessel> and then I loose all my work, because I can't wake up the machine
[22:09] <ikonia> Connor: you're moving from gnome2 - to unity, which are totally different display systems
[22:09] <Connor> First: The icons that show up in Thunderbird/Chrome and a few others, are different.. and non of the icons I've tried match.
[22:09] <bekks> wilee-nilee, wessel: regarding swappiness, let me search that clarifying article.
[22:09] <Connor> Desktop.
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> bekks, Cool thanks.
[22:10] <Connor> The 2nd issue.. HOW the heck do I get rid of the top bar?  I got rid of it in 10.04 LTS.. but, can't find out how to get rid of it..  I found a few things and tried them.. but no go.
[22:10] <ikonia> Connor: you're going to have massive problems with this
[22:10] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Have to go. To revert just undo the changes and run sudo update-grub again
[22:11] <InevBetrayal> arayaq, i cant get to the file
[22:11] <Connor> And lastly.. and this, is the biggest for me..  (and may be a Thunderbird, not ubuntu problem) is, Thunderbird no long has folder specific icons like it once did, and it's not bolding the folders that have new mail.
[22:11] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Why not?
[22:11] <InevBetrayal> cant get past grub
[22:12] <bekks> wilee-nilee, wessel: Thats it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness -- Summary: Dont set swappiness below 5-10, until you really have plenty of RAM. :)
[22:12] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: In grub choose adavanced option (second entry most of the time) and then recovery mode.
[22:12] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: From there to a root shell, from there you can see the file (use nano)
[22:12] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Like nano /etc/default/grub
[22:13] <InevBetrayal> arayaq, so boot in recovery mode and i should be able to nano into the file?
[22:13] <wessel> bekks, thanks I will set my swappiness to 10 or so, but my biggest problem is not wake up after sleep
[22:13] <bekks> wilee-nilee, wessel: And even more important: set vm.oom_kill_allocating_task=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf when setting swappiness near to 0.
[22:13] <genii> InevBetrayal: You may need to do: mount -a -o remount,rw      first.
[22:13] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Yes, if you want to edit the file, you have to mount the filesystem first
[22:14] <wessel> bekks, this line is not in my config file?
[22:15] <InevBetrayal> arayaq, i do have an option to update the grub bootloader, will this change be permanent or is it single boot?
[22:15] <bekks> wessel: That why I said "set ..." :)
[22:15] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Ill be back in four of less hours, if you keep stuck ill be here
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> bekks, Thanks, that is actually in that trim link I posted.
[22:15] <InevBetrayal> arayaq, alright, thanks a lot for your help!
[22:16] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: no problem :)
[22:17] <bekks> wilee-nilee: Well, cache_pressure is another point to argue about ;)
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> bekks, Hehe probably so, beyond my area for sure. ;)
[22:18] <wessel> wilee-nilee, can you comment on this link?
[22:18] <wessel> http://askubuntu.com/questions/147539/computer-wont-wake-from-suspend
[22:18] <wessel> I'm not sure I understand how to implement solution B
[22:18] <bekks> wessel: I did some business impact investigation in that area in the last days ;)
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> wessel, Not with any real authority, I'm really just an armchair user, with to much free time.
[22:19] <wessel> armchair user?
[22:19] <smw94> is there any way to set notify-OSD as default notification ?
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> wessel, I have other interest that are precede OS's, I have just been using open source for awhile and spent a lot if time here and on the ubuntu forums, so I have some areas I know pretty well, but others not so well, I'm not a IT person.
[22:22] <wessel> okay, cool :P
[22:25] <InevBetrayal> genii: ITS ALIVE! thanks for the tip on mounting the disk!
[22:29] <winterpk> I have a problem with NFS and mounting specific folders on my client server. Folling this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo I'm trying to mount a specific folder from my nfs server to my client with the command: sudo mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/users /home/users.  BUt I'm getting an error saying "No such file or directory".  Has anyone ever had this
[22:29] <winterpk> problem?
[22:29] <upd> you do not have such file or directory.
[22:29] <winterpk> I most definitely do
[22:30] <bekks> winterpk: you dont.
[22:30] <winterpk> and its added to my /etc/exports
[22:30] <winterpk> well actually I have a mounted version
[22:30] <winterpk> on the server
[22:30] <winterpk> so I guess its technically not the real one
[22:31] <winterpk> somewhat of a complex situation
[22:31] <ikonia> winterpk: winterpk you shouldn't need the proto option
[22:31] <winterpk> ok
[22:31] <bekks> winterpk: Whats the full error message?
[22:31] <winterpk> that is actually the full error
[22:31] <winterpk> No such file or directory
[22:31] <winterpk> I was able to successfuly mount the nfs drive
[22:32] <winterpk> when I did it with this command:
[22:32] <winterpk> sudo mount -t nfs -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/ /mnt
[22:32] <winterpk> (paths differ)
[22:32] <bekks> Then you dont have /home/users
[22:32] <winterpk> but I do have that folder
[22:32] <ikonia> winterpk: that's a totally different share and totally different mount point
[22:33] <ikonia> winterpk: change just one thing
[22:33] <winterpk> I know I know, sorry let me jet my specific pathing
[22:33] <winterpk> ok so command 1:
[22:34] <winterpk> sudo mount -t nfs -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/ /var/www/sitename
[22:34] <ikonia> winterpk: you've changed 2 things again !
[22:34] <ikonia> winterpk: change 1 thing
[22:34] <winterpk> this is the command that works
[22:34] <ikonia> winterpk: sudo mount -t nfs -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/ /mnt
[22:34] <Connor> so, can someone tell me how the heck to remove the stupid top bar in 12.04 ?
[22:35] <ikonia> winterpk: you said that was the command that worked
[22:35] <ikonia> winterpk: change 1 thing - either the share, or the mount point
[22:35] <winterpk> I was using default values from this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[22:35] <ikonia> winterpk: I'm not asking the guide you're using
[22:35] <ikonia> winterpk: I'm telling you to change 1 thing from the failing command to the good command
[22:35] <winterpk> ok
[22:35] <wessel> If I download an .pgn file to serve as an custom icon for my launcher, should I put this in usr/share?
[22:36] <k1l_> Connor: use a desktop that is supposed to let you modify that
[22:36] <winterpk> so then anyway that command acutually works fine
[22:36] <winterpk> and mounts to the folder /var/www/sitename
[22:36] <winterpk> perfect
[22:36] <ikonia> winterpk: what was the command you used ?
[22:36] <ikonia> winterpk: exactly please.
[22:38] <winterpk> I have a secure domain that I'm not going to post instead I will repleace with 'nfs-server'
[22:38] <winterpk> also the path is going to be renamed to '/var/www/sitename'
[22:38] <upd> mybe /var/www/sitename has different permissions then other :P
[22:38] <ikonia> upd: it's a mount point.....
[22:38] <winterpk> I"ve 777d that folder
[22:39] <ikonia> winterpk: just show us the command please.
[22:39] <winterpk> ok
[22:39] <winterpk> sudo mount -t nfs -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/ /var/www/sitename
[22:39] <winterpk> that is the one that works
[22:39] <ikonia> winterpk: again that is 2 changes !!!!!
[22:39] <ikonia> winterpk: how hard is this to grasp
[22:39] <ikonia> winterpk: you have changed the SHARE AND the MOUNTPOINT
[22:39] <ikonia> winterpk: only change 1 !!!!
[22:40] <winterpk> lol
[22:40] <ikonia> winterpk: it's not funny
[22:40] <ikonia> winterpk: you are wasting peoples time
[22:40] <winterpk> I'm not giving my secure urls
[22:40] <bekks> "secure urls" in a local LAN.
[22:40] <ikonia> winterpk: don't give secure URLs
[22:40] <ikonia> winterpk: the share was nfs-server:users and the mount point was /home/users
[22:40] <winterpk> yes in a local lan
[22:40] <winterpk> I know I know lol
[22:41] <ikonia> winterpk: you've changed the share to nfs-server:/ AND the mount point to /var/www/sitename
[22:41] <ikonia> winterpk: change 1 !!! not both
[22:41] <ikonia> winterpk: again - it's not funny
[22:41] <shaiguit1r> anyone know what package or source I need to install for libunwind ? I need it to compile a project, but I can't find the package anywhere...:(
[22:41] <winterpk> I'm seriously not trying to wast time
[22:41] <ikonia> winterpk: then seriosly - listen and do what you are being asked to do
[22:41] <shaiguit1r> maybe my sources.list doesn't have something it should?
[22:42] <shaiguit1r> help greatly appreciated!
[22:42] <winterpk> ok 1 sec then
[22:42] <lattera> so I have two nvidia cards (same model: quadro 2000) and three monitors... I have two of the monitors plugged into one card and are working perfectly... I'd like to hook up the third monitor and have it rotated 90 degrees... anyone have any pointers?
[22:43] <ikonia> lattera: don't use twinview
[22:43] <ikonia> lattera: that can't span cards
[22:43] <OerHeks> !find libunwind
[22:43] <lattera> ikonia: so separate X sessions on each of the monitors?
[22:43] <ikonia> lattera: sadly....yes
[22:43] <lattera> :(
[22:44] <wessel> why does ubuntu show me all this music I can buy on amazon, every time I hit win key
[22:44] <ikonia> !lens
[22:44] <OerHeks> shaiguitar, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libunwind
[22:45] <jhutchins> wessel: They want to make a commission.
[22:45] <shaiguitar> OerHeks: yea, I can't install those, I'm not an ubuntu expert, what have I missed? is that source in my list file, how do I check?
[22:45] <shaiguitar> it just says "not found" for all of those
[22:46] <StarFlower> http://download.savannah.nongnu.org/releases/libunwind/
[22:47] <upd> winterpk, well i never used that but mybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/35077/cannot-mount-nfs4-share-no-such-file-or-directory probably im wrong
[22:47] <winterpk> command that worked: sudo mount -t nfs -o proto=tcp,port=2049 ec2-54-245-234-196.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com
[22:47] <winterpk> :/ /var/www/shields/
[22:47] <ikonia> winterpk: this is a total waste of time
[22:47] <ikonia> winterpk: you have changed 2 things AGAIN !!!!
[22:47] <winterpk> forget what i first posted!
[22:47] <OerHeks> shaiguitar, open softwarecenter> sources and enable sources for the repos, this package is in main
[22:47] <winterpk> forget it
[22:47] <winterpk> god I wish I could start over
[22:47] <ikonia> winterpk: the mount point is /var/www/sitename still and the share is :/ not :/users
[22:48] <shaiguitar> OerHeks: I'm headless, it's a server with ssh access
[22:48] <winterpk> upd: That is my exact problem
[22:48] <winterpk> mounting with / works
[22:48] <shaiguitar> shit, brb though. hopefully you'll be around soon gotta afk bbiab
[22:48] <upd> you give link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#NFSv4_client
[22:48] <winterpk> but if I specify a folder on the remote server it tells me it doesn't exist
[22:49] <upd> did you read Note that nfs-server:/export is not necessary in NFSv4, as it is in NFSv3. The root export :/ defaults to export with fsid=0.
[22:49] <winterpk> yes
[22:49] <winterpk> but the problem is, that I don't just want to mount the entire tree all in one line
[22:49] <winterpk> I need separate mount points
[22:49] <upd> from here someone will help you that understand this :D
[22:49] <winterpk> lol thanks, was really having a hard time explaing myself there
[22:50] <upd> from what i understand you have to mount entire tree and then subfolders :s
[22:50] <winterpk> but NFSv3 could do individual folders?
[22:50] <winterpk> that seems like a step backwards
[22:51] <upd> yea im probably wrong ...
[22:51] <winterpk> ugh that screws my whole plan
[22:51] <ikonia> winterpk: you can mount individual shares
[22:51] <winterpk> does anyone have any input on this that isn't going to yell at me?
[22:51] <ikonia> winterpk: you do not need to mount the root file system
[22:52] <winterpk> ikonia:but it fails with anything else
[22:52] <bekks> winterpk: why exactly do you need (really need) NFSv4 - and why exactly cant you mount individual shares?
[22:52] <ikonia> winterpk: yes, I see that, howevever you'll need to work it through, - check your shares are exported correctly is a first starting point
[22:52] <winterpk> I don't specificially need NFSv4
[22:53] <bekks> winterpk: Then use NFSv3.
[22:53] <winterpk> when I run the mount command to specify a folder on the NFS server, it files
[22:53] <winterpk> fails
[22:53] <winterpk> bekks: good idea
[22:53] <bekks> Is that folder shared through an individual share entry?
[22:53] <winterpk> on the server?
[22:53] <winterpk> yes
[22:53] <bekks> Then mount it.
[22:53] <winterpk> in the /etc/exports
[22:54] <winterpk> I tried
[22:54] <bekks> Show us. Exact commands as you type them.
[22:54] <winterpk> but thats where my problem is
[22:54] <winterpk> ok give me a sec
[22:54] <winterpk> please don't refer to my earlier commands
[22:55] <bekks> You did post commands earlier? Dementia pregrancy applies to males, too...
[22:56] <joelteon> is it possible to install packages built for newer ubuntus on an older one?
[22:56] <ikonia> no
[22:56] <GlenK> hi.  is there a way to tell when exactly a particular package was installed?
[22:56] <ikonia> GlenK: dpkg log file ?
[22:56] <winterpk> sudo mount -t nfs -o proto=tcp,port=2049 ec2-54-225-234-196.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com
[22:56] <winterpk> :/exports/shields /var/www/shields/
[22:59] <k1l_> joelteon: no. the depencies will make trouble in most cases
[22:59] <winterpk> the docs say that its not REQUIRED to specify a folder and it will mount everything when you just use /
[22:59] <bekks> winterpk: And the full, exact error message?
[22:59] <GlenK> ikonia: doesn't seem to be a dpkg command
[22:59] <winterpk>  No such file or directory
[22:59] <winterpk> one more thing I should mention bekks
[22:59] <upd> To export our directories to a local network <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[22:59] <upd> we add the following two lines to /etc/exports
[22:59] <winterpk> on the server: /exports/shields is a mount of my /var/www/shields directory
[22:59] <upd> did you try that xD
[22:59] <winterpk> udp: try what exactly?
[22:59] <ikonia> GlenK: there is a dpkg command, and I said the log file
[23:02] <winterpk> I'm going to try using NFSv3
[23:02] <upd> winterpk, i dont know adding files you want to mount to /etc/exports
[23:03] <winterpk> yeah I added the proper folders to /etc/exports and it does share them just fine when I mount the entire root files system of the servr
[23:04] <winterpk> but I don't necessarily want EVERY shared folder from the server in a SINGLE folder on the client
[23:05] <craigbass1976> What's the quickest way to get a docx into LibreOffice that won't look right when just opening it the normal way?
[23:06] <honestly> huh?
[23:06] <honestly> you could export to ODT from MS Word
[23:06] <ejv> anyway to SIGHUP byobu panel? it hasn't updated RAID status.
[23:06] <honestly> I think new Office versions can do that
[23:07] <upd> winterpk, some post from forums After more research, I found out the problem. It's that nfs4 has a different paradigm than earlier versions. The basic solution is this:
[23:07] <upd> mount -t nfs4 host:/ /mnt
[23:07] <upd> The nfs4 system uses a single hierarchical tree to export--it isn't capable of exporting multiple separate directories or filesystems. You can use the mount -bind <real_dir> <pseudo_dir> strategy to create a single hierarchical tree with all the directories you want to export, and on the client machines you can mount the desired individual portions of the tree. However, I haven't yet found a way to set up the exports to permit some clients to have access to so
[23:07] <upd> me portions of the hierarchy and other clients to have access to other portions. So far I've found that any restrictions on the root of the hierarchical tree are carried to all the branches and leaves. It's not a huge problem for my current situation, but it seems that nfs4 would not be very useful for a real "file server" that allocates various filesystems to various groups of users.
[23:07] <FloodBot1> upd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:07] <upd> ah my bad
[23:07] <winterpk> hmm interesting, reading
[23:08] <winterpk> that is stupid
[23:08] <winterpk> so NFSv4 just dropped the ball
[23:09] <winterpk> how do I use NFSv3?
[23:09] <ejv> !enter | winterpk
[23:09] <winterpk> ok sorry
[23:09] <operator32>
[23:10] <Hund> Anyone experiencing weird brightness/color issues with nvidia? Its most noticable in the website Facebook where I cant even see the newley marked notifications, they are just as white as the background.
[23:14] <Mago> does anyone here know if it is possible pull out the info of the last location of a samsung galaxy note II from sprint?
[23:15] <alpha_> slackware or OpenSUSE ? which one ?
[23:17] <ikonia> Mago: not really an ubuntu issue/question
[23:17] <ikonia> alpha_: nothing to with ubuntu
[23:17] <shaiguitar> OerHeks: sorry, so what do I do headless? (no UI?)
[23:17] <shaiguitar> open softwarecenter> sources and enable sources for the repos, this package is in main
[23:17] <shaiguitar> I assume that's source.list?
[23:17] <alpha_> ikonia : which one is much stable ?
[23:18] <ikonia> alpha_: this channel is ubuntu - for ubuntu questions, your question is nothing to do with ubuntu, so not something we discuss here
[23:18] <shaiguitar> I have this
[23:18] <shaiguitar> shai@Ubuntu-1004-lucid-32-minimal ~/projects/ltrace_ice99 $ grep launchpad.net /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:18] <shaiguitar> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/stbuehler/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main
[23:18] <alpha_> ikonia : ok so ubuntu or slackware ?
[23:18] <shaiguitar> is that ok if I want: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libunwind ?
[23:19] <ikonia> alpha_: your choice
[23:19] <shaiguitar> if anyone else knows? ... ^
[23:19] <alpha_> ikonia : what about you ?
[23:19] <ikonia> shaiguitar: apt-get source libunwind
[23:23] <HackerII> they should create a 'SlackBuntu'  it wouldnt stay on the shelf
[23:24] <ikonia> don't need to hear that sort of thing please
[23:24] <shaiguitar> ikonia: https://gist.github.com/shaiguitar/11f80a2a6c848cc33b09
[23:24] <shaiguitar> so I guess it's in my sources?
[23:24] <shaiguitar> but..
[23:25] <shaiguitar> E: Couldn't find package libunwind
[23:25] <ikonia> shaiguitar: it's in the main repo
[23:25] <ikonia> shaiguitar: hence "Get:1 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main"
[23:25] <shaiguitar> I don't understant
[23:25] <ikonia> shaiguitar: not "main"
[23:25] <ikonia> shaiguitar: it's in the main repo
[23:26] <joelteon> apt-file search is returning 0 results for any pattern and yes i have apt-file updated. i'm on saucy salamander
[23:26] <shaiguitar> I don't understand
[23:26] <joelteon> specifically MagickWand.pc is the file I'm looking for, but it can't find "bash" or "a"
[23:26] <shaiguitar> I have that source, right? that's why that gist "worked" or whatever
[23:26] <shaiguitar> why when I try to "install" it, it says not found?
[23:27] <ikonia> shaiguitar: what are you trying to install ?
[23:27] <ikonia> shaiguitar: what you are saying doesn't actually make sense,
[23:28] <wizardaeon> is there a way to test to see if I need updated video drivers? besides running something that needs 3d acceleration?
[23:28] <ikonia> wizardaeon: why do you think you need to update ?
[23:28] <shaiguitar> ikonia: libunwind
[23:29] <shaiguitar> sorry
[23:29] <ikonia> shaiguitar: what ? you've just downloaded the source
[23:29] <ikonia> shaiguitar: that's what the command did
[23:29] <shaiguitar> I'm a bit of an ubuntu noob
[23:29] <shaiguitar> sorry
[23:29] <shaiguitar> yea, ok
[23:29] <glycan> The mouse keys next to my touchpad stopped working. How should I try debugging?
[23:29] <shaiguitar> so why can't I install it now?
[23:29] <ikonia> shaiguitar: what do you actually want to do - what's the end goal ?
[23:29] <ikonia> shaiguitar: install what ???
[23:29] <glycan> (also, is coming here with lubuntu ok?)
[23:29] <shaiguitar> install that package
[23:29] <ikonia> shaiguitar: you where asking for the source - youve got th esource
[23:29] <shaiguitar> have those header files
[23:29] <ikonia> shaiguitar: what package, the source package ?
[23:29] <shaiguitar> the source of the lib
[23:29] <shaiguitar> yes
[23:29] <shaiguitar> I see
[23:30] <ikonia> shaiguitar: you don't want the source ???? - you want the development libraries
[23:30] <shaiguitar> right
[23:30] <shaiguitar> gotcha
[23:30] <FloodBot1> shaiguitar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:30] <shaiguitar> sorry
[23:30] <wizardaeon> ikonia, Im not sure I do- I wanted to check to see if what I have is adequate- I will be using dosbox and wine alot
[23:30] <shaiguitar> I didn't realize lib is a different command than install
[23:30] <shaiguitar> let me check if I have that header now
[23:30] <ikonia> wizardaeon: if updates are available, they will be offered to you via update-manager
[23:30] <ikonia> shaiguitar: libs are not a different command
[23:30] <ikonia> shaiguitar: why do you want this ? what is the end goal ?
[23:31] <wizardaeon> ikonia, on other ubuntu distros, I usually have a choice between xorg and ati radeon drivers, I have to switch them manually
[23:31] <shaiguitar> I want to compile a project that has this header file
[23:31] <ikonia> shaiguitar: what project ?
[23:31] <shaiguitar> when I compile it now, it says: error: libunwind.h: No such file or directory
[23:31] <shaiguitar> ikonia: this branch: https://github.com/ice799/ltrace/tree/libdl
[23:31] <ikonia> shaiguitar: I'm asking as you seem very lost in what you are doing, so compiling software may not be a wise move
[23:32] <wizardaeon> ive run ubuntu 13, xubuntu, kubuntu, mint, and they all have a video driver "switcher"
[23:32] <ikonia> 1info ltrace
[23:32] <ikonia> !info ltrace
[23:32] <ikonia> shaiguitar: there is an ltrace package, you don't need to compile it
[23:32] <ikonia> shaiguitar: sudo apt-get install ltrace
[23:32] <shaiguitar> ikonia: I need that branch.
[23:33] <shaiguitar> so, I need to compile that branch.
[23:33] <shaiguitar> so, I need the code.
[23:33] <shaiguitar> so, I need the required headers.
[23:33] <shaiguitar> hence, I need the libunwind library, on my system.
[23:33] <ikonia> shaiguitar: I find that hard to believe personally
[23:33] <shaiguitar> oh?
[23:33] <shaiguitar> why?
[23:33] <ikonia> shaiguitar: look for the -dev package for libunwind
[23:33] <shaiguitar> I couldn't find it
[23:33] <shaiguitar> I tried
[23:33] <shaiguitar> I will try again though, thanks for the tip.
[23:34] <wizardaeon> is there a way to test video drivers, similar to microcraps "dxdiag"?
[23:34] <dhyana> hi all
[23:34] <ikonia> shaiguitar: libunwind8-dev
[23:34] <ikonia> shaiguitar: 5 seconds to find it
[23:34] <dhyana> Anyone from India? m a indian user
[23:34] <ikonia> wizardaeon: it's called "microsoft"
[23:35] <ikonia> dhyana: you asked this before - why does it matter
[23:35] <dhyana> well
[23:35] <dhyana> I wanted to see if anyone from India uses Ubuntu like me
[23:35] <ikonia> dhyana: #ubuntu-in is the indian loco channel - you've been given this informaiton before
[23:35] <dhyana> ok
[23:35] <ikonia> dhyana: this channel is from all over the world
[23:35] <ikonia> dhyana: please stop asking "is anyone from india"
[23:35] <dhyana> ok
[23:35] <ikonia> dhyana: this the last time this will be explained to you
[23:35] <rhagu> hi, is there a way to look at the grub menu while running ubuntu (inside the terminal for example)
[23:36] <designbybeck___> Asus Laptop EFI Dual boot issues.... Ubuntu seemed to install ok, but GRUB doesn't come up. It just goes to Windows
[23:36] <designbybeck___> It is Windows 7
[23:36] <shaiguitar> ikonia: thank you
[23:36] <shaiguitar> sorry for the confusion; I wasn't aware of apt-get source.
[23:36] <shaiguitar> apprecaite the help.
[23:36] <Fyodorovna> rhagu, sudo update-grub
[23:36] <wizardaeon> so I guess, nobody knows if there is a program similar to dxdiag?
[23:36] <ikonia> shaiguitar: you don't need apt-get source
[23:37] <ikonia> shaiguitar: you need the -dev package
[23:37] <Pici> wizardaeon: glxinfo?
[23:37] <wizardaeon> designbybeck, have you duel booted with EFI configuration before
[23:37] <wizardaeon> Pici, thank you
[23:38] <shaiguitar> ikonia: I don't know why, but running "apt-get install libunwind7-dev" now, worked. but I ran it before, confirmed by history, and it didn't beforehand (no typos).
[23:38] <rhagu> Fyodorovna that command will change my grub.cfg by applying /etc/default/grub but wont show me the actual menu
[23:38] <designbybeck___> wizardaeon: I haven't got it working on this laptop, but I have done clean installs and gotten ubuntu to load on other EFI laptops
[23:38] <shaiguitar> I don't know why, but somereason it worked now (and I got the branch built, ty).
[23:39] <wizardaeon> design, I just asked, because I  have yet to try that- my system will run EFI, but the BIOS is optimized for windows 8
[23:39] <shaiguitar> just fwiw, my history:
[23:39] <shaiguitar>  1490  sudo apt-get install libunwind7-dev
[23:39] <shaiguitar>  1433  sudo apt-get install libunwind7-dev
[23:40] <Fyodorovna> rahgu, not sure of a way to see the actual menu that command shows you the OS's listed.
[23:40] <wizardaeon> Im not sure I need EFI really, I was just curious
[23:40] <shaiguitar> that's all I know :p
[23:40] <shaiguitar> anyway, thank you.
[23:40] <designbybeck___> wizardaeon: I've done hundreds of installs for people...until this Windows Secure Boot crap came along!!!!
[23:41] <wizardaeon> design, same-- but I havent done a secure boot install- its something new I need to learn
[23:41] <wizardaeon> im running Zorin OS right now, I believe it is Ubuntu 7 based
[23:41] <Fyodorovna> rahgu, You might state your actual goal for more info.
[23:41] <designbybeck___> the thing is this as windows 7 on it.... and something is stopping grub from dualbooting
[23:41] <designbybeck___> grub doesn't pull up
[23:42] <Fyodorovna> wizardaeon, not supported here.
[23:42] <wizardaeon> design, who is the laptop manufacturer? what processor?
[23:42] <wizardaeon> kk fyodorovna, Im used to open chat rooms, Ill try to stay on topic
[23:43] <Fyodorovna> it helps
[23:43] <designbybeck___> wizardaeon: ASUS K55A laptop
[23:44] <designbybeck___> intel i5
[23:45] <wizardaeon> designbybeck, is it possible to reinstall all OS on the laptop under non EFI boot
[23:46] <designbybeck___> wizardaeon:  she had so many viruses and such on this windows side which is why i'm trying to get her Linux
[23:46] <designbybeck___> but she needs a few things on the windows side
[23:46] <wizardaeon> reason I am asking,
[23:46] <designbybeck___> I have backup her data, but i don't have any windows disk to reinstall anything
[23:46] <Fyodorovna> a full wipe and setting the  ios to legacy should allow msdos partitioning
[23:47] <wizardaeon> design, I know exactly how to fix that. I fixed a windows laptop couple of days ago
[23:47] <dtcrshr> does i5 processors runs PP 12.04.02 amd64? or theres an intel specific for 64bits?
[23:47] <fowlslegs> So if I add rw as a root flag in my kernel options and I am using mkinitcpio's fsck hook, can I remove rw from my fstab options for the root partition?
[23:47] <designbybeck___> like I said the ubuntu install seemed to go ok, it was just when i rebooted, It doesn't give me grub and goes right into windows
[23:49] <Fyodorovna> designbybeck, you might look here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[23:49] <wizardaeon> you can download the windows ISO from microsoft, get the one that was installed on that laptop, wipe the drive, reinstall, use the windows key that was used to activate that copy of windows, then call microsoft to reactivate your windows key. You type in a 25 digit code, then windows is running again- then you can just install Ubuntu right beside it like you normally would
[23:49] <designbybeck___> Thanks Fyodorovna I haven't seen that post yet, I'll go through it
[23:49] <matubaum> hello, I want to install ubuntu on my new dell computer. I have a usb bootloader with gparted. After selecting any option on the GRUB I get a blackscreen... any ideas?
[23:50] <Fyodorovna> a iso download will not activate with a oem
[23:50] <designbybeck___> (#$*(#@^(*$ no way wizardaeon
[23:50] <designbybeck___> ha
[23:50] <wizardaeon> it worked for me
[23:50] <wizardaeon> but I didnt put Ubuntu on it, the customer authorized me to put Linux on it, but I saved his windows partition= which was full of viruses
[23:51] <wizardaeon> I had to wipe the laptops restore partition too
[23:51] <duffy> Olá
[23:51] <wizardaeon> fyo, I used a iso from microsoft
[23:51] <wizardaeon> and I called them and it worked
[23:51] <duffy> eih , tou aqi
[23:52] <Fyodorovna> !nomodeset | marubaum use a install disc
[23:52] <duffy> f.y .l.
[23:53] <cpined> Hello, I'm trying to figure out what is taking up my space..I have 16 gigs and already about 97% is being used..I ran du -sh * on my home folder and it says I have 5.5 gigs being used...
[23:53] <jrib> cpined: use baobab
[23:53] <cpined> but when I go in the folder the du -sh * command shows files and sub folders that don't add up to the 5.5 gigs
[23:54] <Fyodorovna> wizardaeon, we got your claims, a oem will not activate that way, and is bad advice.
[23:57] <cpined> ok..I installed baobab ... it is still executing.
[23:57] <kelly> hello guys, I need help
[23:57] <NotCharlesIves> hi kelly
[23:57] <kelly> hi NotCharlesIves
[23:57] <kelly> I'm just wondering if it is possible to change username? if yes plz tell me how, i'm using ubunti 12.04
[23:57] <NotCharlesIves> How are you? What's up?
[23:57] <NotCharlesIves> Yes
[23:57] <kelly> i'm fine
[23:58] <NotCharlesIves> http://askubuntu.com/questions/205448/change-user-name
[23:58] <NotCharlesIves> :)
[23:58] <NotCharlesIves> this tutorial may help too http://www.ubuntututorials.com/change-username-ubuntu-12-04/
[23:58] <jrib> kelly: why don't you just create a new user?
[23:58] <jrib> kelly: that tutorial has bad advice
[23:58] <fowlslegs> So if I add rw as a root flag in my kernel options and I am using mkinitcpio's fsck hook, can I remove rw from my fstab options for the root partition?
[23:59] <cpined> cool..it turns out to be .thunderbird
[23:59] <NotCharlesIves> How so jrib?
[23:59] <cpined> it is taking 4.1 GB
[23:59] <kelly> jrib, can i create new user and delete the old one ?
[23:59] <NotCharlesIves> yes
[23:59] <NotCharlesIves> sort of
[23:59] <jrib> kelly: sure