[12:13] <patrick_> Well, for some reason Konqueror won't access the internet.
[12:13] <Alonea> hmm, maybe someone in ##linux knows. they tend to be a pretty good help most of the time.
[12:13] <stdin> !feisty
[12:13] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[12:13] <judgen> WOW XGL on ATI rocks bigtime. AIGLX isnt even close.
[12:13] <eilker> any idea for freezing problem  of my mouse ?
[12:14] <c0nv1ct> eilker: what kind of mouse?
[12:14] <judgen> btw where do i install the beryl themes?
[12:14] <TRic2> by
[12:14] <stdin> judgen: on my system XGL is slow as hell, and AIGLX rocks, but I'm not using ATI
[12:14] <patrick_> Does anyone have any idea why Konqueror wouldn't be able to access internet pages?
[12:14] <c0nv1ct> judgen: use emerald to import them, if you are using emerald
[12:14] <judgen> aaah
[12:14] <eilker> c0nv1ct> left and right buttn and whell, ps/2 not wireless
[12:14] <eilker> *button
[12:14] <judgen> also, where in the settings do i set konqueror to start files with double click instead of single?
[12:14] <c0nv1ct> eilker: brand? model?
[12:15] <Alonea> ok, I still can't seem to get MPlayer to work. I get the whole can't initialise -vo thing.
[12:15] <eilker> c0nv1ct> A4 tech , model swop-3
[12:16] <stdin> judgen: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse
[12:16] <Alonea> and when I load Xine my screen goes on wonky.
[12:17] <Alonea> and it also says at the top there is no mrl
[12:17] <betty> hi
[12:17] <eilker> c0nv1ct: i have this problem in xp too
[12:18] <c0nv1ct> eilker: ah, then its a hardware problem
[12:18] <c0nv1ct> eilker: try cleaning the optics, carefully
[12:18] <judgen> stdin: Do you know how to enable the theme i have selected in beryl.manager?
[12:18] <c0nv1ct> eilker: sometimes a dust ball or a hair gets in there and makes it screwy
[12:19] <Alonea> and then kaffeine doesn't load the decoder correctly and i only get sound
[12:19] <stdin> judgen: you choose them in emerald-theme-manager then they activate
[12:19] <eilker> c0nv1ct: i dont know but it mostly  happens when i am in firefox in tabs, in xp and in kubuntu too,
[12:20] <judgen> seems that im stuck with the default aquamarine theme
[12:20] <kgx> does anyone know how i can prevent this message: WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!. everytime it appears, i need to manually remove it from the knowns hosts file. this is for connecting to my home computer and it changes when i switch between linux and windows (cygwin)
[12:20] <jarn> What is the "Nice Load" in ksysguard?
[12:21] <JohnFlux> jarn: the amount of cpu use background processes are using
[12:21] <judgen> stdin: what happens if i remove the aquamarine theme
[12:22] <Alonea> Ok, now i got the codecs to work, but when I try to play a video, the whole screen goes wonky, like random large pixels everywhere.
[12:22] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: are you using Beryl?
[12:22] <compilerwriter> Any ideas Alonea or Ashex|Work
[12:23] <Alonea> c0nv1ct: whats that?
[12:23] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, I would check your dmesg
[12:23] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: then no you arent :)
[12:23] <Ashex|Work> that's the only other thing I can think of right now
[12:23] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: what app are you using to play movies?
[12:23] <Alonea> c0nv1ct: I have tried MPlayer, Xine, and Kaffeine.
[12:24] <Alonea> Kaff and XIne with play, but screen goes crazy
[12:24] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: are you using a 64bit or 32bit Kubuntu?
[12:24] <Alonea> c0nv1ct: I went back to 32 bit because 64 bit would not recognize my video card
[12:24] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: kaffeine works for me, but VLC works good without having to install any codecs
[12:25] <Alonea> c0nv1ct: and Mplayer says Error opening/intialising the selected video out device
[12:25] <Alonea> c0nv1ct: I am trying to play a wmv
[12:25] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: you may need to change the driver for xine inside kaffeine to fix the graphics glitches
[12:25] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: ahhh, wmv, VLC is best for that
[12:25] <stdin> Alonea: have you tried with the "-x11" or "-xv" switch?
[12:25] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: i was too lazy to install the w32 codecs so kaffeine could play wmv
[12:25] <Alonea> stdin: tried what?
[12:26] <stdin> Alonea: like "mplayer -x11 myfile.wmv"
[12:26] <Alonea> stdin: I am not in terminal at all
[12:26] <Alonea> c0nv1ct: ok, how do i change the driver for xine inside kaff?
[12:27] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: go to Settings, configure kaffeine
[12:27] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: wait no, its the xine settings
[12:27] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: Settings - xine engine paramaters - Video
[12:28] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: i've had problems with some drivers doing odd things, xshm seems to work best for me, try them all if ya want
[12:29] <Alonea> c0nv1ct: perfect. thanks!
[12:29] <khaije1> whats the key combo to resize an X display?
[12:29] <judgen> stdin still no progress in changing theme.
[12:34] <khaije1> sure is queit
[12:34] <Kepakiano> hello
[12:34] <Kepakiano> i've got a problem concerning my monitors refreshrates
[12:34] <Kepakiano> (excuse my english - i'm german^^)
[12:35] <khaije1> Kepakiano: there is a german language channel also, did you know that?
[12:35] <stdin> !de
[12:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:35] <Kepakiano> nope^^
[12:35] <Kepakiano> awesome, thx^^
[12:40] <ubuntu> c0nv1ct: may i open a query? i was here a few minutes ago...the guy with the broken install cd
[12:41] <KrAmMeR> how do I make it so when I click on a link from other programs...that it opens up in firefox and not konqueror
[12:41] <KrAmMeR> ?
[12:41] <ubuntu> ok i cant query obviously
[12:42] <c0nv1ct> query away :)
[12:42] <stdin> KrAmMeR: System Settings -> Default Applications
[12:42] <ubuntu> i cant i just found out cuz im unregistered hehe
[12:42] <c0nv1ct> registery with identserv, its real easy
[12:42] <KrAmMeR> thanks stdin
[12:43] <c0nv1ct> or nickserv
[12:43] <ubuntu> c0nv1ct: anyway i just wanted to say thx i nearly spent 2 hours on this problem and finally imgburn fixed the problem....zero failed checksums!
[12:43] <stdin> c0nv1ct: if you have unfiltered on, they don't have to
[12:43] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: nice! i've always liked imgburn, never failed once for me
[12:43] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: very simple tool just for burning images, i love it
[12:44] <ubuntu> c0nv1ct:  it defintely feels better to install from a flawless install media...ebven it seemed to be just  a support for an unimportant file syste that was invalid
[12:44] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: yeah, haveing an error free disk always helps :D
[12:44] <ubuntu> c0nv1ct: yeah...i will use it from now on...and this incident will also teach me to hashcheck my stuff from now on
[12:44] <c0nv1ct> having*
[12:45] <sercik> please someone could help me to test my ultravnc installation??
[12:45] <ubuntu> c0nv1ct:  so thx again...guess thats all i wanted to say hehe
[12:45] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: yeah, always use the verify feature when burning stuff like that
[12:45] <c0nv1ct> np man, have fun in ubuntu :)
[12:45] <ubuntu> going to install now finally
[12:45] <ubuntu> bye
[12:45] <ubuntu> :)
[12:45] <sercik> my address is http://radiociccio.dyndns.org
[12:47] <KrAmMeR> im getting and access denied when trying to empty my trash
[12:47] <KrAmMeR> has anyone seen this?
[12:49] <PhilosophyNinja> is there a linux equivalent to ctrl+alt+del? or something where I can see processes running?
[12:49] <Minataku> ps
[12:49] <bonbonthejon> PhilosophyNinja: top
[12:49] <LjL> PhilosophyNinja: ctrl+esc
[12:49] <Minataku> LjL's is best
[12:49] <Dasnipa`> i prefer ctrl backspace
[12:49] <stdin> KrAmMeR: don't know why that's happening, but a "sudo chown $(whoami) ~/.local/share/Trash/" should fix that
[12:50] <LjL> that doesn't do much Dasnipa`
[12:51] <stdin> KrAmMeR: opps, missed an -R "sudo chown -R $(whoami) ~/.local/share/Trash/" should fix that
[12:51] <KrAmMeR> haha
[12:51] <KrAmMeR> i was just gonna say that didn't work
[12:51] <KrAmMeR> k lemme try that
[12:51] <cpk1> PhilosophyNinja: use top or 'ps aux'
[12:51] <c0nv1ct> recursive always helps :)
[12:51] <KrAmMeR> that worked thanks
[12:51] <stdin> :)
[12:52] <KrAmMeR> can you do that for any folder you dont have access too im assuming?
[12:52] <cpk1> KrAmMeR: yes but there are reasons why you dont have access to some directories =)
[12:52] <stdin> KrAmMeR: you could, but it would depend on the directory to if you should do it
[12:53] <stdin> KrAmMeR: anything in your home directory should be ok tho
[12:53] <KrAmMeR> K
[12:53] <KrAmMeR> thanks
[12:53] <stdin> no problem :)
[12:54] <bzozo> Hi
[12:55] <bonbonthejon> hi
[12:55] <stdin> !hi
[12:55] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:56] <bzozo> thanks:)
[12:56] <bzozo> I've a little (maybe stupid) question concerning xine-remote, may somebody can help me?
[12:58] <bonbonthejon> !question
[12:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:59] <jarle> Trying the edgy->feisty upgrade; After the wizard I hit "finished" no upgrader started?
[12:59] <bzozo> I'm trying to use xine-remote within a script, something like "xine-remote -c 'set audio channel 1'"  works fine, but "xine-remote -c 'get audio lang'" does nothing ; am I not supposed to get the response in stdout?
[12:59] <bzozo> (I'm french, so pardon my english)
[01:00] <bonbonthejon> jarle: what wizard?
[01:00] <jarle> bonbonthejon: Have you done the upgrade?
[01:00] <stdin> jarle: feisty support (including upgrading to feisty) is in #ubuntu+1
[01:00] <bonbonthejon> jarle: yeah
[01:01] <PhilosophyNinja> Question, I'm trying to install Gaim. I already did the wget thing to get the package. Now when sent the sudo dpkg -i gaim...so on command it runs but I get an error
[01:02] <PhilosophyNinja> a dependency problems prevent configuration of gaim2"
[01:02] <stdin> PhilosophyNinja: why didn't you just use adept and install the package in the ubuntu repos?
[01:02] <PhilosophyNinja> because essentially I have no idea what I'm doing
[01:02] <PhilosophyNinja> I'm just messing around trying to figure things out on my own
[01:02] <jarle> bonbonthejon: when you are told that a new version of kubuntu is available, and complete the wizard, when you select "finish" a new Upgrader should show up as shown on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[01:03] <bonbonthejon> jarle: i prefer the command line, "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[01:03] <PhilosophyNinja> stdin: so how do I do it with Adept?
[01:04] <bonbonthejon> PhilosophyNinja: open adept, search for gaim, and install it
[01:04] <stdin> PhilosophyNinja: 1st remove the package you're trying to install "sudo dpkg -r gaim2", then do what bonbonthejon said
[01:06] <jarle> bonbonthejon: giving command line a go then... (I was just trying to follow the suggested guide to every point..
[01:06] <PhilosophyNinja> searching for it in adept doesn't work, doesn't find anything
[01:07] <intelikey> ok somebody tell me what is activating consoles 2-6 ?    and don't say inittab cause they are commented out in there.
[01:07] <bonbonthejon> PhilosophyNinja: pastebin your sources.list
[01:07] <bonbonthejon> !pastebin | PhilosophyNinja
[01:07] <ubotu> PhilosophyNinja: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:08] <intelikey> there is no getty running on them but something has activated them cause i can switch to each of 2-6 even though nothing has ran on them.   anyone know ?
[01:10] <PhilosophyNinja> whoa wait, whats that pastebin thing...
[01:10] <elcuco_> is anyone in cebit?
[01:10] <elcuco_> i mean, like some one from kubuntu?
[01:11] <SolidSource> !pastebin > PhilosophyNinja
[01:11] <Kepakiano> cya
[01:11] <SolidSource> elcuco_: there are some...don't know if any are on right now
[01:11] <elcuco_> just wanted to know, if they can send me some disks :)
[01:12] <PhilosophyNinja> so does that mean that someone pastbined to me or they want me to pastebin something to them
[01:13] <jarle> bonbonthejon: The wizard seems to only be started when you "Fetch updates" from Adept, and not when you run it from the command line like you suggested...
[01:13] <bonbonthejon> PhilosophyNinja: go to the pastebin site, and post your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:13] <bonbonthejon> jarle: yeah, command line needs no gui wizard
[01:14] <dsmith> question: has anyone used the paid support for ubuntu?
[01:14] <jarle> bonbonthejon: When running from the commandline I am told that everything is installed, yet when "Fetch updates" from adept the kubuntu wizard is started...
[01:15] <bonbonthejon> jarle: what didnt get upgraded
[01:15] <isstern35> can someone plz tell me how to uninstall kubuntu
[01:16] <dsmith> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[01:16] <isstern35> aight thx
[01:16] <stdin> isstern35: you mean the KDE part, so you're left with Ubuntu, or the whole OS ?
[01:16] <bonbonthejon> isstern35: install something on top of it
[01:16] <PhilosophyNinja> sudo /etc/apt/sources.list doens't work
[01:16] <jarle> bonbonthejon: as stated on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade a kubuntu upgrader wizard is supposed to start automatically...
[01:16] <bonbonthejon> PhilosophyNinja: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:16] <isstern35> so i use sudo apt-get for all things that i want to uninstall
[01:17] <PhilosophyNinja> ah
[01:17] <dsmith> apt-get!
[01:17] <dsmith> !apt-get
[01:17] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:17] <bonbonthejon> isstern35: what are you uninstalling
[01:18] <dsmith> kubuntu apparently
[01:18] <isstern35> yea
[01:18] <Minataku> !aptitude
[01:18] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[01:18] <Minataku> is better
[01:18] <Minataku> lol
[01:18] <isstern35> at least im trying too
[01:18] <bonbonthejon> isstern35: if you want to get rid of all of kubuntu, just install something over it
[01:18] <ecetahmaz> Hi, can anybody tell me, what is the konversation redhat link
[01:18] <ecetahmaz> ?
[01:19] <dsmith> thx Minataku
[01:19] <stdin> ecetahmaz: huh, you mean the redhat channel on freenode?
[01:19] <Minataku> dsmith: np
[01:19] <ecetahmaz> yeap, why not?
[01:19] <ecetahmaz> stdin
[01:19] <stdin> ecetahmaz: #redhat
[01:20] <ecetahmaz> stdin haha init? cheers stdin
[01:20] <jarle> When I try to do the edgy->feisty upgrade I get:
[01:20] <jarle> can't load DistUpgradeViewKDE
[01:20] <jarle> error: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/kparts.so: undefined symbol: _ZN11konsolePart8setPtyFdEi
[01:20] <Minataku> isstern35: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=<device of your harddrive> [ DANGER! THIS WILL DESTROY ALL THE DATA ON SAID HARDDRIVE ]
[01:20] <Minataku> jarle: That library lacks that symbol
[01:21] <Minataku> Perhaps you need a newer version of the lib
[01:21] <stdin> jarle: the Kubuntu Dist Upgrade tool is not stable
[01:21] <Minataku> Or someone goofed when they made the DistUpgradeViewKDE bin
[01:21] <jarle> so a bug report should be filed?
[01:22] <ecetahmaz> Notice, i`m not using yet... i`ve kubuntu, i wanna learn that? i just start to use 2 week ago linux. i dont wanna use microsoft  anymore !!!!!!!!
[01:22] <dsmith> ecetahmaz: awwww why not :P
[01:22] <ecetahmaz> notice ,,,, thnx for the information
[01:23] <stdin> jarle: check if there is a similar issue on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bugs if not, then report it
[01:24] <ecetahmaz> dsmith , i need alternative, without trojens virus, i cant control my pc easly, i need more information about everything,,,, i will try linux
[01:24] <dsmith> ecetahmaz: Linux is great, unbuntu makes it even better :) Welcome...
[01:24] <ecetahmaz> and free, who want to give money for comp. me not....
[01:24] <Minataku> ecetahmaz: Is English your primary language?
[01:24] <Minataku> If not, we have localized channels
[01:25] <Minataku> They can help you in your primary language and probably make things easier for you :3
[01:25] <ecetahmaz> thnx dsmith, minataku english is second
[01:25] <Minataku> What is your primary language?
[01:26] <ecetahmaz> turkish
[01:26] <ecetahmaz> yours?
[01:26] <bonbonthejon> !tr
[01:26] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[01:26] <Minataku> Mine is English
[01:26] <dsmith> everyone's 1st language on here should be binary... :P
[01:26] <Minataku> But there's the Turkish Ubuntu channel :3
[01:26] <Minataku> By the way; welcome to Linux, ecetahmaz :3
[01:26] <ecetahmaz> thnx ubotu
[01:27] <ecetahmaz> and cheers notice
[01:27] <bonbonthejon> !ubotu
[01:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:27] <ecetahmaz> THNX v. much
[01:27] <Minataku> bonbonthejon: Don't confuse him, now XD
[01:27] <Minataku> ecetahmaz: No problem
[01:28] <skogen> hello
[01:28] <bonbonthejon> hi
[01:28] <dsmith> aptitude seems limited somewhat
[01:28] <bonbonthejon> dsmith: how so
[01:29] <chino> this guy says hes picking the language
[01:29] <dsmith> well to me apt-get has more command variables perhaps?
[01:29] <chino> in th installer
[01:29] <chino> and has a small screen
[01:29] <skogen> how do i get back to just use ubuntu? (i have now kubuntu installed)
[01:29] <chino> and cant see no buttons
[01:29] <chino> to move next
[01:29] <dsmith> skogen: logout of your session
[01:29] <dsmith> and choose gnome
[01:30] <dsmith> then open a terminal session and sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[01:30] <voidmage> no need to remove kubuntu-desktop
[01:30] <dsmith> well he could leave it on there
[01:31] <voidmage> i feel dirty
[01:31] <dsmith> lol
[01:31] <voidmage> KDE is crashing X too much right now
[01:31] <voidmage> i'm having to try gnome and see if it's more stable
[01:31] <dsmith> maybe its your vid. drivers?
[01:31] <voidmage> my friend has the same problem with an intel chip
[01:32] <voidmage> and i use ATI
[01:32] <dsmith> i810?
[01:32] <voidmage> no clue about nvidia
[01:32] <Alonea> ok. what packages do I need to install so I have mp3/mpeg/etc support in firefox. Need to hear bgsound. Got extension so it reads it but firefox says missing plugin for mpeg
[01:32] <dsmith> oh
[01:32] <voidmage> but it's the exact same segfault in X
[01:32] <voidmage> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10539/
[01:32] <dsmith> i avoid ATI
[01:32] <voidmage> backtrace at 1337
[01:32] <Raytray> Is it possible to make a window not show up on the windows list on the taskbar?
[01:32] <voidmage> i would too but i switched this box from windows
[01:33] <bonbonthejon> Raytray: you can not list non-minimized windows, i think
[01:33] <Raytray> Alright then.
[01:34] <dsmith> voidimage: is that your xorg.conf?
[01:35] <Minataku> voidmage: Type "startx" and try using what I hope will be twm
[01:35] <Minataku> You can test if it's KDE or X this way
[01:35] <Minataku> It'll be kinda confusing, you'll want to open up xterms and run commands from them
[01:36] <Minataku> You can run multiple programs in one xterm by appending an & to the end of the line
[01:36] <Minataku> Say you want to run XMMS but you don't want to clog up your xterm, you run it as "xmms &"
[01:36] <Minataku> If it still crashes out on you in twm then it's not KDE's fault
[01:37] <voidmage> dsmith: no that's my xorg.log
[01:37] <voidmage> Minataku: not really sure though what causes X to crash, it crashes practically randomly during regular everyday use
[01:38] <Minataku> Well, I saw you blaming KDE
[01:38] <voidmage> moreso a guess
[01:38] <Minataku> GNOME would definitely be more likely to cause all sorts of things to crash, including even your car
[01:38] <Minataku> It's that bad
[01:38] <Minataku> *rimshot* XD
[01:38] <voidmage> hah.
[01:40] <dsmith> hahaa
[01:40] <Alonea> also, when I try to load amarok, it says updating database, then goes off without loading the program.
[01:41] <jhutchins> !mp3 | Alonea
[01:41] <ubotu> Alonea: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> Alonea: try running amarok from konsole to see the errors
[01:43] <ecetahmaz> i write] ]
[01:43] <Alonea> bonbonthejon: ok, when I do sudo amarok, it actually loads it...wierd.
[01:44] <voidmage> you're running amarok as root?
[01:44] <bonbonthejon> Alonea: dont do sudo, try it as the regular user
[01:44] <Alonea> bonbonthejon: said a bunch of bad device stuff like it does when I do kdesu konqueror
[01:44] <Aoshi> mi wine doesn't work
[01:44] <voidmage> bad device stuff is a lot of times normal
[01:44] <Aoshi> !!
[01:44] <bonbonthejon> Alonea: you can ignore the x errors
[01:45] <voidmage> that just means you don't have a wacom tablet plugged in
[01:45] <voidmage> (support for those is included by default in ubuntu)
[01:46] <SilentDis> hello :)
[01:47] <stdin> !hi
[01:47] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:47] <SilentDis> how do I set KDE to auto-start an app on login?
[01:47] <bonbonthejon> hi
[01:47] <stdin> !autostart | SilentDis
[01:47] <ubotu> SilentDis: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[01:47] <Alonea> bonbonthejon: Amarok: [Loader]  Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.   does that mean anything?
[01:47] <SilentDis> stdin: thanks :)
[01:47] <stdin> SilentDis: you're welcome :)
[01:47] <stdin> hi Jucato :)
[01:48] <bonbonthejon> Alonea: dont run "amarok" instead use "amarokapp"
[01:49] <ecetahmaz> I set on manual proxy on firefox network connection setting? internet didn`t work, now i set up the auto. proxy, nah! internet is not working.... anybody can give me a idea. i dont have internet connection fron firefox????????
[01:49] <Jucato> hi stdin!
[01:49] <Alonea> bonbonthejon: ok, I just get those X errors, it says the updating database, then goes off.
[01:50] <bonbonthejon> Alonea: whats the last line it says
[01:50] <SilentDis> stdin: ln /path/to/program ~/.kde/Autostart/appname && chmod 770 ~/.kde/Autostart/appname correct?
[01:50] <stdin> Jucato: I decided to compile KDE4 from svn today, it's going well (so far) :)
[01:50] <Alonea> bonbonthejon: just the end of the x error saying failed to open device
[01:50] <Jucato> stdin: ah. good luck :)
[01:50] <Jucato> (don't give others any crazy ideas ;D)
[01:50] <stdin> SilentDis: use a symlink, it's easier, "ln -s /path/to/program ~/.kde/Autostart/appname" Done! :P
[01:50] <SilentDis> stdin: thank you :)
[01:51] <bonbonthejon> Alonea: if all else fails, try reinstalling amarok
[01:51] <stdin> Jucato: I tried using the packages (in universe on feisty) but i keep getting a segfult, so I'll just do it the fun way :)
[01:51] <Alonea> bonbonthejon: well, it works if I sudo it though...
[01:52] <Jucato> stdin: heh... you could also report the bug for kde4 kubuntu packages and help others who'll be using it along the way :D
[01:53] <stdin> Jucato: I'm going to do that anyway, I'm a good kubuntu citizen :)
[01:53] <Alonea> bonbonthejon: how do you get firefox to see the codecs?
[01:53] <SilentDis> ksysguard doesn't seem to function.  it starts, connects to localhost for a brief second, then disconnects instantly.  what is it trying to connect to?  it might be missing on my machine (went from ubuntu -> kubuntu)
[01:53] <bonbonthejon> !codecs
[01:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:54] <SilentDis> !ksysguard
[01:54] <ubotu> ksysguard: system guard for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 485 kB, installed size 1564 kB
[01:55] <stdin> !ksysguardd
[01:55] <ubotu> ksysguardd: system guard daemon for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 176 kB
[01:55] <kdehl> What do I need to add to make mplayer play wmv files and the likes? Right now it says "Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: wmvdmod.dll, /usr/lib/win32/wmvdmod.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/wmvdmod.dll"
[01:56] <stdin> kdehl: install w32codecs
[01:56] <stdin> !w32codecs
[01:56] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[01:56] <matrix> hi, i can't use the full capacity of my usb disk. it is 100gb which fdisk -l /dev/sdb proofes
[01:56] <kdehl> Hm.
[01:56] <kdehl> stdin: There doesn't seem to be a package named that, is there?
[01:56] <matrix> i created one partion using fdisk and did mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1
[01:56] <stdin> matrix: is it formatted, or partitioned ?
[01:57] <matrix> but when i mount it df only shows 23G available...?
[01:57] <stdin> kdehl: not in the main repos, look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[01:58] <matrix> stdin:  yes it is
[01:58] <tominglis> hi, i'd like to get a usb webcam built into my laptop's screen to work
[01:58] <tominglis> does anyone know how?
[01:58] <stdin> matrix: how many partitions is it?
[01:58] <tominglis> it has product id 0x2750
[01:58] <stdin> !webcam
[01:58] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:58] <tominglis> and vendor id 0xeb1a
[02:00] <matrix> stdin: only one. i want to have it cover the whole disk
[02:00] <matrix> is ther a ui tool to do it?
[02:01] <Alonea> ok, I dont see anything about getting firefox to play embedding mp3s....
[02:02] <Jucato> Alonea: try installing "mozilla-mplayer"
[02:02] <Jucato> (it's in multiverse)
[02:02] <matrix> when i create a new partition how can i make it fit the whole disk? i delete all partition and create a primary. starting from cylinder 1 to the default value for the ending.
[02:02] <matrix> after wards checking with v i still have 5165 unallocated sectors
[02:02] <stdin> matrix: you can install gparted, or qtparted
[02:03] <Alonea> Jucato: its already installed.
[02:03] <Jucato> hm...
[02:03] <stdin> matrix: I think you can use the Disk & Filesystems tool in System Settings too
[02:04] <stdin> matrix: not sure about that one  tho
[02:04] <matrix> when i do n for an additional disk it says no free sectors. strange. do i have to write them first? seems like v and n are working based on different informations
[02:04] <matrix> stdin: i will get qtparted
[02:04] <Alonea> Jucato: I am trying to get teh bgsound to work. I got the extension so bgsound is recognized, and thats working, but a missing plugin thing comes up though.
[02:04] <stdin> matrix: that's probably the best tool for the job
[02:05] <Jucato> Alonea: maybe it's flash?
[02:05] <beta> hi, during install i couldnt connect to the security updates server....my networks seems to be running (havent looked at the configs yet though)
[02:05] <beta> what could this mean?
[02:06] <Alonea> Jucato: shouldn't be. its an mp3 file that the html code is calling. and the missing plugin is audio/mpeg. I have flash installed anyway and thats working fine.
[02:06] <Jucato> hm...
[02:07] <Jucato> is it playing fine in Konqueror? (if you have libxine-extracodecs installed)
[02:08] <Alonea> Jucato: does Konqueror support the html code bgsound?
[02:08] <Jucato> can you throw me a link to test it (on Konqueror)
[02:09] <Alonea> http://deathball.net/notpron/nothing/hesgotitall.htm , Jucato
[02:09] <Alonea> err, username is simple, pass is songs.
[02:09] <Alonea> its not-pr0n
[02:10] <beta> how do i set konquerer up to seperately launch as a filebrowser and as a webbrowser...i mean layout and all?
[02:10] <Jucato> hm.. it's not playing in Konqi
[02:10] <stdin> i think bgsound is an IE tag, it's non-standard anyway
[02:11] <Alonea> stdin: its reading the bsound.
 is the way to do it I think
[02:11] <stdin> woks on all browsers
[02:11] <Alonea> stdin: I got the extension so you are able to read it.
[02:11] <Alonea> stdin: I just dont know why firefox isn't able to play mp3s...
[02:12] <Jucato> maybe because the bgsound tag is not a standardized tag
[02:12] <Xiphias> It will probably only play wav or midi files. IIRC
[02:12] <tominglis> stdin: i don't think that my camera is included in those links
[02:12] <Jucato> so other standards-compliant browsers will probably not support it...
[02:13] <Jucato> then there's the possiblity of what Xiphias said :D
[02:13] <Sanne> beta: if you have different profiles for file management and web browsing, you can use commands like this to start konqueror with a specific profile: kfmclient openProfile name_of_your_profile
[02:13] <tominglis> stdin: it seems to be fairly generic, and is recognised as some kind of camera by kopete, but there is nothing on the display
[02:13] <ubuntu> hi
[02:13] <Alonea> Jucato: well, I honestly dont think its the tag thats wrong. Maybe reinstall firefox somehow?
[02:14] <Xiphias> You couuld use embed to do the same thing
[02:14] <Jucato> Alonea: the tag is not wrong. but probably not a Web standard. meaning other browsers might not support it
[02:14] <Xiphias> You'd just have some sort of a graphical interface to playing the file
[02:14] <tominglis> stdin: camorama has nothing either, but it does say a resolution of 360 x 289 and a frame rate
[02:14] <ubuntu> how do i log onto yahoo through this application
[02:14] <Jucato> a.k.a. it might only be a Internet Explorer thing
[02:15] <Alonea> Jucato: i am trying to say its reading the tag, but not the mp3, as in a plugin issue.
[02:15] <Jucato> ubuntu: Yahoo Messenger? Use Kopete instead. Konversation is an IRC client
[02:15] <ubuntu> oh
[02:15] <ubuntu> thanx
[02:15] <Jucato> Alonea: ok... I can't test it right now since Adept is busy at the moment.
[02:15] <stdin> tominglis: I don't know then, I don't have a webcam
[02:16] <Sanne> beta: you can try with the default profiles that come with ubuntu, located in /usr/share/apps/konqueror/profiles. They are named: "filemanagement" and "webbrowsing"
[02:16] <Alonea> Jucato: ok, and the extension is called stop autoplay, and then you need to goto stop autoplays options and check the box "convert <bgsound> tag
[02:16] <beta> Sanne: ok thx...sounds not like i could just get it working in a few minutes but at least i got a clue now thx
[02:17] <Sanne> beta: I can help you set it up if you like.
[02:17] <matrix> what are the most wide or easiest backup programs for ubuntu? some dar frontends? or is ther something better?
[02:18] <tominglis> stdin: thanks dude
[02:18] <beta> Sanne: well if you dont mind it would be cool...just to have a filemanager icon to launch and one for brwosing
[02:19] <beta> Sanne: should i open a query?
[02:19] <Jucato> beta: if you're kicker is still the default setting, there's a button beside the K Menu that looks like a computer. It's the System Menu. if you click on it you will be given some choices. click on Home and it will (should) launch Konqueror in File Manager mode
[02:19] <Sanne> beta: I would prefer in channel, so others can benefit, or help us if we get stuck, if that's ok with you.
[02:20] <Jucato> !kdar | matrix
[02:20] <ubotu> matrix: kdar: archive data to disc. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1268 kB, installed size 2212 kB
[02:20] <matrix> i could need some advice regarding a backup strategy.
[02:21] <beta> Sanne: sure just didnt want to annoy others with such basic stuff
[02:21] <matrix> mainly i have images and some documents.
[02:21] <beta> wait a sec. if it works what Jucato suggestes i might be fine for now anyways
[02:21] <matrix> my laptop disk is too small so i will have them on a usb disk
[02:21] <matrix> when is it better to just mirror a directory to another usb disk. by unison, rsync? when should you use kdar etc?
[02:21] <Sanne> beta: I don't think anybody would be annoyed, and I also don't think it's *that* basic ;) Ok, let's start, please open a konsole window.
[02:22] <matrix> unison, dar are thos progs i heard of have no idea what else is out there worth a look
[02:22] <beta> Sanne: ok opened
[02:22] <Sanne> beta: I want to confirm the that two commands will work. First one: kfmclient openProfile filemanagement
[02:23] <beta> Sanne: yeah that opened up konqi in filemanagement mode :)
[02:24] <Sanne> beta: next one: kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing
[02:24] <beta> Sanne: Working
[02:25] <Sanne> beta: cool! now, where would you prefer to have those shortcuts? In the menu, on the panel and/or on the desktop?
[02:26] <beta> Sanne: i guess all im missing is a filebrowser launch in the menu and on the panel...web is already there
[02:26] <fyrmedic> How do I list my iptables
[02:26] <fyrmedic> ?
[02:26] <matrix> iptables -L afaik
[02:27] <Sanne> beta: ok, then let's make a menu entry first, it's easier that way. Open the menu, open the group where you would like to have the new entry, right click anywhere and choose edit. That should open the menu editor.
[02:27] <fyrmedic> matrix; thank you. I'll give it a shot
[02:27] <Jucato> beta: you couldn't find the System Menu on the panel?
[02:28] <matrix> fyrmedic: your welcome
[02:29] <jose__> sdxd
[02:29] <matrix> i wanted to install kdar but it says it's brocken kdar: Depends: libdar3c2a but it is not installable
[02:29] <beta> Jucato: i could and i actually would be fine with it for now...but if Sanne is kind enough to to take me through some basic steps it cant hurt - thx though!
[02:29] <Jucato> sure
[02:29] <beta> Sanne: ok
[02:30] <Sanne> beta: in what group do you want to make the new entry?
[02:31] <mervteck> hey guys
[02:31] <beta> Sanne: i think it would fit in utilities
[02:31] <beta> +best
[02:32] <mervteck> hey has anyone here reported microsoft to the BBB?
[02:32] <Sanne> beta: ok, the right click on "utilities" and chose "new item", give it an appropriate name.
[02:32] <Xiphias> mervteck: There wouldn't be any point
[02:32] <Xiphias> No action would ever be taken against them.
[02:33] <mervteck> =P i did cuz i hate them and there HORRIBLE tech support
[02:33] <Xiphias> Unless you happen to be a multibillion dollar company
[02:33] <beta> Sanne: ok
[02:33] <Xiphias> Their tech support is outsourced
[02:33] <mervteck> how bout... multi thousand? lol
[02:33] <mervteck> yeha i know
[02:33] <Sanne> beta: with the new entry selected, fill out Description and Comment in the right pane to your liking.
[02:34] <Xiphias> Just remember, when you call tech support, you are speaking with individuals that don't like their job and want to go home.
[02:34] <Xiphias> I'd know
[02:34] <Xiphias> :P
[02:34] <beta> Sanne: done
[02:34] <mervteck> xD
[02:34] <mervteck> where u live xiphias?
[02:35] <Sanne> beta: ok, and in Command we now put the one from earlier: kfmclient openProfile filemanagement
[02:35] <mervteck> if your willing to share that info
[02:35] <matrix> any idea why i can't install kdar via apt (running edgy)
[02:35] <beta> Sanne: ok
[02:35] <tominglis> does anyone know how to get spca5xx or gspcav1 working in kubuntu feisty?
[02:35] <tominglis> i am trying to install the webcam built into my laptop screen
[02:36] <Xiphias> Australia
[02:36] <Xiphias> If that's vague enough
[02:36] <Sanne> beta: you can chose an icon now if you want, by clicking on the big icon on the top right in the right pane, or we can skip that and you do it later. Tell me when done ;)
[02:36] <mervteck> lols
[02:36] <mervteck> plenty! =P
[02:36] <beta> done
[02:36] <mervteck> thank god for linux im never going to windows again
[02:36] <Xiphias> Never worked for MS tech support, never would.
[02:37] <Xiphias> I have to use Windows for neccessities like gaming
[02:37] <Xiphias> and MS Access. :(
[02:37] <Xiphias> *crai*
[02:37] <Jucato> !offtopic
[02:37] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:37] <mervteck> i hate gaming on windows , simply because even on emulation 90 % of my games running on windows run at a higher fps and more fluently
[02:38] <Sanne> beta: ok, now "File/save" and then "File/quit". Then test if the new menu entry is there and working.
[02:39] <mervteck> i ran source games on windows, they only get 40 fps MAX on a 7950 512, on linux i pull 140
[02:39] <beta> Sanne: cool working - thx a heap!
[02:39] <Sanne> beta: we're not ready yet ;). Now on to the panel, ok?
[02:40] <beta> Sanne: meh...it would be great but i really dont want to hassle you :)
[02:40] <Sanne> beta: you don't ;) We'll see this through, ha!
[02:40] <beta> cool
[02:41] <Sanne> beta: right click on panel, "Add Application to Panel", navigate to your new menu entry, click on it to put it on panel. Right click on new panel item to move, customize etc. Left click to test. If it works, we're done ;)
[02:42] <mervteck> mmm love kubuntu ^^ anyone up for helping me getting BF2 to run on my compy when its done?
[02:43] <mervteck> ill give you a hero cookie!
[02:43] <beta> Sanne: cool, works :)
[02:43] <Sanne> beta: hurrah! :)
[02:44] <beta> Sanne: hehe - thx :)
[02:44] <Sanne> beta: you're welcome :)
[02:44] <mervteck> sanne u willing to help a semi noob ? =)
[02:45] <flaccid> anyone here know how to work out the /dev/ name of a usb printer device?
[02:45] <Sanne> mervteck: willing, yes, capable... maybe, if I knew your problem :)
[02:45] <beta> Sanne: so if i would want to launch konqi at root per default or any other location i change it via konqis menus and save it as a new profile...than go through tzhat very same process but add the new profile in the command box?
[02:46] <mervteck> wanna get BF2 to work on linux ( through wine or cadega )  when i restart
[02:46] <beta> to setup entrys for it in the menu i mean
[02:46] <alonea> ok, Jucato, I got it to work finally, but I dont like how gxine pops up, only plays it once when it supposed to repeat and makes the screen pixelate all over
[02:47] <Sanne> beta:  exactly! You might have to disable the kubuntu specific config that prevents adding custom profiles. I remember having to do that. But just try to make a custom profile, if it works, all is fine.
[02:47] <mervteck> brb gonna restart
[02:48] <bdb> I am at the install screen for Kubuntu, English is highlighted, I hit enter and nothing happens, any ideas on how to continue the install?
[02:48] <Sanne> I just love it when I'm in the middle of an answer when the user quits...
[02:48] <beta> Sanne: ok, mind to answer one last question? when i installed i couldnt connect to the security updates sever...my networks seems to work fine though - what could the be the reason for this
[02:48] <chino> help bdb
[02:48] <beta> or is it normal behaviour with a frsh install from the latest iso
[02:49] <Sanne> beta:  sometimes the servers are down, can you connect now?
[02:49] <beta> Sanne: maybe his connection just broke down
[02:49] <Sanne> :)
[02:49] <vit> hola
[02:49] <Xiphias> I have issues with the backports servers sometimes
[02:49] <beta> Sanne: uh, how to do that i would have to ask then i fear ;)
[02:49] <Xiphias> They must take them down an awful lot
[02:50] <vit> hello
[02:50] <Xiphias> G'day
[02:50] <alonea> Jucato: ok, nm, I just uninstalled gxine and now its working perfectly
[02:50] <chino>  I am at the install screen for Kubuntu, English is highlighted, I hit enter and nothing happens, any ideas on how to continue the install?
[02:50] <bill_> i have a problem with libc6
[02:50] <bill_> i have the newist version installed but when i try to install beryl it says i need to install a newer version
[02:51] <mervteck> hey guys!
[02:51] <Sanne> beta: we can just tryto surf to the server with a web browser :). In my /etc/apt/sources.list I have for the security updates the line: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted. So I just try to surf to: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ and see if it's up.
[02:51] <Xiphias> chino: is your cd/dvd rom drive spinning up?
[02:51] <chino> no
[02:51] <vit> hello
[02:51] <chino> Xiphias:  no
[02:52] <beta> Sanne ok seems to be up and i can reach it
[02:52] <beta> Sanne:
[02:52] <Xiphias> chino: if you restart, see if it spins up then. There could be an issue with your drive (I had a similar issue when installing Kubuntu, where the drive would boot the disc, but wouldn't install. I had to use another external drive)
[02:52] <bill_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:52] <bill_>   xserver-xgl: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4 is to be installed
[02:52] <mervteck> I AM THE HAPPIEST MAN ALIVE!  WOOT!
[02:52] <bill_> the following packages have unmet dependancies
[02:52] <Sanne> beta: works here too. You should make sure you have the line enabled in your sources.list, just to be safe.
[02:53] <bill_> the following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:53] <beta> Sanne: yup i gotta look through that again...last i used linux (ubuntu breezer) was a year ago or something alike
[02:53] <beta> time to get out the manual now :)
[02:53] <Sanne> beta: if you get stuck, just ask :)
[02:54] <bill_> xserver-xgl: depends libc6 (>= 2.4-1) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4 is to be installed
[02:54] <bill_> now what
[02:54] <matrix> i have a problem and i guess it is a kubuntu bug. how can i verify that and how to fill a bug report?
[02:54] <stdin> !bug
[02:54] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[02:55] <Sanne> beta: remember to make a copy before editing config files.
[02:55] <bill_> xserver-xgl: depends libc6 (>= 2.4-1) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4 is to be installed <----can somone help me with this
[02:55] <beta> Sanne: you know what it cool to read stuff and do research but its really great from time to time if someone is willing to walk you through some stuff....even if its very basic....it can be really encouraging to go on with learning
[02:55] <Xiphias> You need to update your graphics card drivers, as far as I know
[02:56] <Xiphias> I never got around to installing XGL/Beryl
[02:56] <bill_> i assure you EVERYTHING is up to date, i spent 3 hours making sure
[02:56] <mervteck> can anyone tell me why my kopete shows all my lists of groups for aim but shows i have 0 in each?
[02:56] <beta> Sanne: i hope linux can save some of that attitude....so thx a lot again for your help, youve been really patient! :)
[02:56] <beta> Sanne: yeah hehe thx for the hint
[02:56] <DrX> hello, I can't seem to remount /dev/sda8... it says "mount:  can't find /dev/sda8 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"  It's being used as a Xen block device (ext3)
[02:57] <Sanne> beta: it is my pleasure, really. You are a pleasant person to teach :)
[02:57] <stdin> DrX: you either need to specify a mount point, or use pmount to mount it
[02:57] <bill_> ok, can somone direct me to a RADEON 9550 driver that is not proprietary, because that one SLOWWWS my computer down alot
[02:57] <beta> Sanne: cool thx - ill do some reading now then :)
[02:57] <voidmage> bill_: tried 'radeon' ?
[02:57] <beta> thx again later :)
[02:58] <Sanne> beta: ok, have fun, good luck :)
[02:58] <chino> does x11vnc come on the cd ?
[02:58] <chino> or some way that someone can join my session ?
[02:58] <bill_> installing xorg_fglrx
[02:59] <ricky_> can someone tell me how to change the little yellow thing on eterm?>
[02:59] <DrX> pmount command not found
[02:59] <andrew_> I am trying to install LTSP Utilities, but keep getting error.  Not foung.  Need help
[03:00] <stdin> DrX: have you got kubuntu-desktop installed ?
[03:00] <Alexismoy> Hi
[03:00] <Xiphias> DrX: try mkdir /mnt/sda8 and use that as the mount point
[03:00] <Alexismoy> Is fglrx the best driver for my ATI card or is there an other driver?
[03:00] <Xiphias> (sudo mkdir /mnt/sda8 that is)
[03:01] <bill_> it still says libc6 can be upgraded to 2.4 and i cant upgrade and i have 2.3 and synaptic says there are no updates
[03:01] <bill_> lemme try adept
[03:02] <bill_> yeah no updates
[03:02] <stdin> do you have backports enabled ?
[03:02] <Xiphias> Try using the 'repair broken packages' tool in Synaptic
[03:02] <Xiphias> You may have an issue there too.
[03:02] <andrew_> Is there another location to download a LTSP Utility?
[03:03] <stdin> !ltsp
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ltsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <bill_> where do i enable backports
[03:03] <bill_> just checked, yes backports are enabled
[03:04] <bill_> should i disable?
[03:04] <DrX> what does the mount command look like?
[03:04] <fuel> !gtk+
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk+ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <fuel> !gtk > fuel
[03:05] <stdin> DrX: sudo mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/sda8
[03:05] <cpk1> mount /dev/hd*X /media/somwhere
[03:05] <bill_> stdin, should i disable backports
[03:06] <stdin> bill_: it could help
[03:06] <bill_> ok ill try that
[03:06] <DrX> it says "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /.de/sda8, missing codepage or other error"
[03:06] <DrX> dmesg | tail says "EXT3-fs: invalid journal inode
[03:07] <cpk1> i suppose if you mount it as ext2 it wont care about the journal
[03:07] <bill_> stdin: nothing
[03:07] <firecrotch> !beryl
[03:07] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:07] <bill_> dang
[03:09] <fuel> what package am i supposed to install for gtk+ ?
[03:10] <tyr> Is there a way to reset all hardware conigurations for kubuntu to the detected values and/or re-run the hardware detection?
[03:10] <DrX> how?
[03:10] <userbn> CCC
[03:12] <fangorious> i have know keyboard layouts to select in the control center, so I can't get my Win key working
[03:12] <fangorious> know -> no
[03:14] <intelikey> does anyone have a clue they could lone me ?
[03:17] <intelikey> what happens if you  /ignore <yournick> all   ?
[03:17] <mervteck> anyone know where i can get Automatix2 without going to the site? it seams its down
[03:18] <stdin> mervteck: DON'T get it
[03:18] <stdin> !automatix | mervteck
[03:18] <ubotu> mervteck: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:18] <Jucato> site isn't down for me thouigh
[03:18] <mervteck> eek lol
[03:18] <Jucato> though*
[03:18] <stdin> intelikey: you should still see your own text
[03:18] <mervteck> if i try to load the wiki it wont work
[03:18] <Daskreech> intelikey: The voices go away
[03:19] <intelikey> yeah  but you can't ping yourslef
[03:19] <intelikey> Daskreech heh ;/
[03:19] <mervteck> can anyone help me install nvidia drivers? normally when i do it the next time i turn on, it FUCKS my system, where X wont load
[03:20] <DrX> cpk1, ext2  gives same error
[03:20] <illusin1> Hello everyone, I just tried to copy 150gb, then canceled it, and my system is hyper-sluggish -- how can I fix this?
[03:21] <Daskreech> !language | mervteck`
[03:21] <ubotu> mervteck`: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:21] <Daskreech> illusin1: My guess is clear /tmp
[03:21] <mervteck> hey now... dont bug meh!  =P
[03:21] <illusin1> Daskreech: how does that affect memory?
[03:21] <mervteck> thats the only describing word that truly tells how bad the system gets
[03:22] <illusin1> mervteck: if that's as expansive as your descriptive capabilities go you should go read a few books
[03:22] <intelikey> mervteck that's probably not your fault.   that's ubuntu reconfiguring the xorg each boot time.   (imo a very very bad idea)...              unless you are using modprobe to install a driver and you didn't setup /etc/modules  to insert it fot you, in which case it would be your fault.
[03:22] <Jucato> !nvidia | mervteck
[03:22] <ubotu> mervteck: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:23] <intelikey> fot ?    eeek    for
[03:24] <fangorious> how do I get keyboard layouts installed? (like generic pc104)
[03:25] <intelikey> fangorious "section input"  in xorg.conf  ?    or do you mean kde specific ?
[03:25] <fangorious> intelikey: kde specific, it's working fine in gnome
[03:26] <intelikey> kcontrol should have it in parifereals  i think
[03:27] <fangorious> intelikey: when i go to kcontrol -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layouts, I have a drop-down menu with no items
[03:29] <intelikey> looking
[03:29] <intelikey> or actually loading a gui so i can look.
[03:29] <fangorious> heh
[03:29] <stdin> kcontrol or system settings?
[03:29] <wincide> !seen jpatrick
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen jpatrick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <SolidSource> fangorious: go into adept and search " keyboard layout" ...one of those 4 packages might be what you want
[03:29] <mervteck> so does this installer walkthrew work with 7000 searies geforce cards?
[03:30] <fangorious> stdin: they're pretty much the same thing, aren't they?
[03:30] <stdin> nope
[03:30] <stdin> different apps
[03:30] <fangorious> The Regional & Langauge UI is the same from either one
[03:30] <goodseed> ubuntu pl ?
[03:30] <stdin> !pl
[03:30] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[03:30] <Jucato> !pl | goodseed
[03:30] <ubotu> goodseed: please see above
[03:30] <Jucato> bah
[03:30] <SolidSource> fangorious: system settings is made by kubuntu and kcontrol is made by KDE
[03:31] <fangorious> I've gone in through both
[03:31] <Jucato> System Settings is just a UI/wrapper for kcm (kcontrol modules). kcontrol is the same
[03:31] <Jucato> both use the same modules, only arranged/grouped differently and using a different main interface
[03:32] <mervteck> can anyone reccomend the EASIEST install of nvidia drivers
[03:32] <stdin> fangorious: do you have xkb-data and xkeyboard-config installed? and kubuntu-desktop for that matter?
[03:32] <intelikey> fangorious i don't know what to tell you.  my dapper system shows choices in that section
[03:32] <fangorious> stdin: all three are installed
[03:34] <SolidSource> !info keyboards-rg
[03:34] <ubotu> keyboards-rg: Various keyboard layouts for X-window and linux console. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 148 kB
[03:34] <intelikey> fangorious in the kcontrol you didn't over look the little "enable keybord layont" check box did you ?
[03:34] <fangorious> SolidSource: just tried that one, didn't help
[03:34] <fangorious> intelikey: nope, can't select the layout menu if that's not checked
[03:35] <soulrider> ~java
[03:35] <intelikey> hmmm
[03:35] <soulrider> !java
[03:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[03:35] <intelikey> fangorious not using beryl are you ?
[03:35] <fangorious> intelikey: yes
[03:35] <intelikey> ok there you go.
[03:36] <fangorious> intelikey: hrm, gnome/beryl doesn't seem to have a problem. do you have a link to info on the kde problem? (i haven't found anything with my own googling)
[03:36] <intelikey> !beryl | fangorious the help for beryl is in that channel
[03:36] <ubotu> fangorious the help for beryl is in that channel: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:37] <intelikey> i presonally don't know why beryl and kde are so non-compatable but they do seem to be.
[03:38] <intelikey> and by "non-compatable" i simply mean that one has an adverse affect on the other
[03:39] <Fizzbane> If i have picture on an external hd with a file system NTFS can i use those pictures on linux?
[03:39] <stdin> you can read from ntfs
[03:39] <intelikey> Fizzbane sure
[03:39] <Fizzbane> so i can use them?
[03:39] <stdin> writing is a bit more tricky
[03:39] <intelikey> !ntfs | Fizzbane
[03:39] <ubotu> Fizzbane: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:39] <Fizzbane> can i copy them to my linux hd easily?
[03:40] <stdin> yeah
[03:40] <Fizzbane> ok sounds good
[03:40] <intelikey> very
[03:40] <Fizzbane> i love linux
[03:40] <Fizzbane> its so much nicer than windows
[03:40] <intelikey> many of us in here would concure
[03:41] <Fizzbane> ok can i use that guide to mount an external hd?
[03:41] <Alonea> ok, is there an app like windows' sound recorder? I need to speed up a sound and reverse it.
[03:43] <intelikey> there are many apps that manipulate sound.  how ever sound file format may be an issue. mp3 is propritary as are several others
[03:43] <intelikey> !mp3
[03:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:44] <Fizzbane> intelikey: do i use that guide to mount my usb external or is it meant for internal drives?
[03:44] <intelikey> should work for external too
[03:44] <SolidSource> fizzbane: external should automatically work
[03:44] <Fizzbane> really? awsome
[03:44] <intelikey> usb is pretty well supported
[03:44] <SolidSource> Fizzbane: just like a flash drive
[03:45] <Fizzbane> yup
[03:45] <Fizzbane> my 500gb flash drive
[03:45] <Fizzbane> =P
[03:46] <lourence> hi how do i fix the card reader? it doest read my smart card
[03:46] <Daskreech> !audacity
[03:46] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[03:47] <Fizzbane> horray it did work
[03:48] <c0nv1ct> anyone else using Moblock? i'm getting some strange hits, like the DoD NIC
[03:48] <intelikey> cross-platform ???     does that mean depends on both gtk and qt libs ???
[03:48] <Xiphias> !bitchx
[03:48] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1507 kB, installed size 6516 kB
[03:48] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: i think they mean, it works with windows too :)
[03:48] <c0nv1ct> i've used the windows version, but not the linux one
[03:48] <intelikey> ohh!
[03:48] <SolidSource> ...
[03:48] <intelikey> well i've used the linux one but not the doz one
[03:49] <eilker> anyone using audacity on edgy ? i have no text on its menu...
[03:49] <intelikey> dapper here.
[03:49] <Fizzbane> do i have to enable anything to play .mp3 files?
[03:50] <c0nv1ct> Fizzbane: yes
[03:50] <intelikey> you didn't read the page.
[03:50] <fangorious> ok, logged in with plain on xorg+kde. no xgl/beryl. still have an empty menu. :(
[03:50] <SolidSource> eilker: what do you mean? no text in which menu?
[03:50] <mervteck> can anyone tell me how to install firefox, i downloaded the tar.gz file but now wut
[03:50] <c0nv1ct> mervteck: dont compile it, use apt-get
[03:50] <stdin> mervteck: use Adept
[03:50] <eilker> SolidSource>: all menus, i mean there are only lines, no file no edit etc...
[03:50] <intelikey> fangorious that just simply can't be.  look again.   heh
[03:51] <mervteck> whats the command in apt-get to get firefox?
[03:51] <SolidSource> Fizzbane: libxine-extracodecs gives mp3 support
[03:51] <stdin> mervteck: sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:51] <fangorious> apt-get install firefox
[03:51] <mervteck> ty
[03:51] <Fizzbane> how do i do this?
[03:51] <SolidSource> mervteck: "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[03:51] <c0nv1ct> i swear, they need to emphasize the package system for new people somehow
[03:51] <stdin> wooh, you were late there SolidSource  :P
[03:51] <intelikey> !mp3 | Fizzbane
[03:51] <ubotu> Fizzbane: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:51] <c0nv1ct> so many people come in asking how to compile stuff thats in the repos
[03:52] <intelikey> yes
[03:52] <SolidSource> !info libxine-extracodecs > Fizzbane
[03:53] <Xiphias> Will libreaddvd3 work with most players?
[03:53] <Xiphias> or libdvdread3, can't remember
[03:53] <intelikey> Fizzbane oh you may not have multiverse repos setup.  see !repos
[03:53] <SolidSource> yes
[03:53] <eilker> is kdesu used only for konqueror, or for all graphical things which needs root rights ?
[03:53] <intelikey> all
[03:54] <stdin> eilker: all
[03:54] <stdin> !kdesu
[03:54] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:54] <mervteck> awesome i got it installed now, ty guys
[03:54] <eilker> thanx
[03:54] <Xiphias> Keep in mind, it only installs FF1.5
[03:54] <BluesKaj> kdesu works with kate the text editor as well
[03:54] <Fizzbane> i have multiverse and universe
[03:55] <intelikey> !ff
[03:55] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:55] <stdin> FF2 is in backports
[03:55] <Daskreech> !kq
[03:55] <ubotu> kq: adventure game in the spirit of Final Fantasy. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.cvs20060528-3 (edgy), package size 206 kB, installed size 768 kB
[03:55] <SolidSource> Xiphias: depends on what version of OS you have...edgy gets FF2
[03:56] <eilker> i have problem with audacity, any alternatives of it ?
[03:56] <aphroguy> !gimp
[03:56] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[03:56] <Xiphias> Ah, ok. I've only installed the package in dapper.
[03:56] <mervteck> can anyone reccomend how to install wine?
[03:57] <stdin> !wine
[03:57] <eilker> !wine
[03:57] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:57] <intelikey> eilker yes there are but the problem you have may be a simple as going into it's menu and configuring it to use the correct input/output devices/engines
[03:57] <SolidSource> eilker: that or you may just need to relogin, some apps are fixed that way
[03:57] <mervteck> can i just put in konsole deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[03:58] <intelikey> mervteck no
[03:58] <eilker> solidforce: it is same since one week
[03:58] <mervteck> err wate
[03:58] <SolidSource> mervteck: no need
[03:58] <mervteck> wow im retarded
[03:58] <mervteck> lol
[03:58] <SolidSource> mervteck: its in the ubuntu repos
[03:58] <Xiphias> Hmm, FF2 isn't showing up in the backports either.
[03:58] <mervteck> so just go and put in the wget line?
[03:58] <eilker> intellikey: i cant see text in its menu, only lines instead of text
[03:58] <Fizzbane> the line in the restricted formats guide for media files doesnt work
[03:59] <stdin> you can do: echo "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[03:59] <supa> Greetings.
[03:59] <stdin> mervteck: ^^
[03:59] <supa> I had a quick question about gparted for the current version of Kubuntu.
[03:59] <mervteck> stdin are u registered?
[03:59] <supa> I recall a while back that I tried an installation with Ubuntu 6.10 and gparted had corrupted my partition table.
[03:59] <stdin> mervteck: yep
[03:59] <SolidSource> Fizzbane: do "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"
[04:00] <stdin> supa: gparted? or qtparted?
[04:00] <supa> Does the gparted included with the latest version of Kubuntu still have issues where it corrupts the partition table?
[04:00] <intelikey> mervteck in a konsole you could,  { echo "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list }   if you did that as root, would add that repo,  but that's not the sujested way.
[04:00] <besonen_mobile> one or two reboots after cleanly installing kubuntu i noticed that grub acquired an additional startup option.  the machine in question dual-boots win xp home.  initially grub gave the typical options to select from at boot-time, with the last option being to boot from "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition".  after one or two or three (i wasn't counting) initial reboots grub now displays and additional line just after the "Microsoft
[04:00] <besonen_mobile>  Windows XP Home Edition" option.  this last option says "Windows NT/2000/XP".  any ideas why this happened?
[04:00] <Lichte> Hi all
[04:00] <supa> Hmm... Hang on. Whatever it is that is included with Ubuntu 6.10 (on the ShipIt disc).
[04:00] <intelikey> mervteck only mentioned too point out that you are not far off on the question.
[04:00] <Fizzbane> solidsource: thanks
[04:01] <SolidSource> mervteck: if you have the repo enabled, just type "sudo apt-get install wine"
[04:01] <Lichte> how's feisty going ?
[04:01] <intelikey> supa is that a known bug you refer to ?
[04:02] <intelikey> Lichte #ubuntu+1
[04:02] <intelikey> that's where all feisty chatter is.
[04:02] <Fizzbane> SolidSource: is that all i have to do?
[04:03] <Lichte> k
[04:03] <supa> intelikey, AFAIK, yes. I recall reading about it on the Ubuntu forums.
[04:04] <nu-> Does kubuntu now allow where to install GRUB, like ubuntu 6.10 does?
[04:04] <SolidSource> mervteck: but if your system can't find the wine package, follow this, it explaines things better (remember change gksudo to kdesu and gedit to kate): http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Windows_Applications_in_Linux_.28Wine.29
[04:04] <SolidSource> Fizzbane: for MP3 yes
[04:04] <supa> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+bug/48229
[04:04] <supa> There's the link to the post for it I last read.
[04:05] <intelikey> supa well i don't know the answer to your Q but it must have been something hardware specific, seeing that *buntu has used parted for all install applications sense it's debeau
[04:05] <Fizzbane> SolidSource: what is a good mp3 player with a good EQ and organization system?
[04:05] <SolidSource> supa: if you resized partition...that is extremely questionable, it doesn't work well 100% of the time
[04:06] <SolidSource> Fizzbane: amarok
[04:06] <intelikey> nu- kubuntu is ubuntu at the install level.  the gui installer is buiquity
[04:06] <supa> Well, that's the thing. I have installed it in the past and it worked fine. But with this particular version of Ubuntu, my partition table is always corrupted.
[04:06] <hendaus> hello
[04:06] <Fizzbane> SolidSource: thats the best one?
[04:06] <hendaus> i need a help
[04:06] <supa> Hmmm, do you think if I used a different program (such as PartitionMagic for Windows XP) I may have better luck?
[04:07] <eilker> !gtk
[04:07] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[04:07] <eilker> !ktk
[04:07] <hendaus> anyone knows about amule?
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <sebr> hm, i have onboard sound, and i have an sblive card. how can i force ubuntu to ignore the onboard sound?
[04:07] <SolidSource> Fizzbane: if you don't like it find a new one, theres plenty out there...amarok is what I use for my several hundred GB of music
[04:07] <Lichte> !amule
[04:07] <ubotu> amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB
[04:08] <intelikey> Fizzbane in the *nix world one quickly learns to refrain from the use of subjective wording like   "best"  and  "right way"   linux is all about choices alternatives and freedom.
[04:08] <eilker> what do we have in kde instead of gtk ?
[04:08] <SolidSource> supa: resizing a partition in any program could cause problems, its not a perfect thing yet
[04:08] <Fizzbane> SolidSource: ok thanks, If i have a soundblaster sound card will it automaticly work?
[04:08] <intelikey> not at all about  the right way to do things and the best app to do it with.
[04:08] <eilker> gtk is for gnome, what for kde ?
[04:09] <Lichte> eilker: qt
[04:09] <eilker> !qt
[04:09] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[04:09] <Fizzbane> intelikey: ok sorry mate. i wont do it again.
[04:09] <eilker> Lichte>thanx
[04:09] <Lichte> eilker: welcome
[04:09] <supa> Fizzbane, thank you for all your help.
[04:09] <intelikey> no offence.  just informing you that there is no "best" mp3 player.   the one you like is the best for you.
[04:10] <Fizzbane> supa: i didnt help you
[04:10] <nu-> Does kubuntu now allow where to install GRUB, like ubuntu 6.10 does?
[04:10] <hendaus_> Lichte,  yes i am using it,but kad show to me (firewalled) and sometimes off
[04:10] <SolidSource> nu-: yes, kubuntu edgy uses grub...and last I remember so did dapper, at least I did
[04:11] <intelikey> SolidSource grub has been the default boot loader sense the birth of the distro
[04:11] <nu-> SolidSource: but does it allow where to install it? like, i installed ubuntu 6.10 and it gave me the option where to install. (hd0,0...hd1,0..etc)
[04:12] <stdin> nu-: yes
[04:12] <SolidSource> intelikey: thats nice...its been too long for me to remember that
[04:12] <nu-> stdin: talking about GRUB here, correct?
[04:12] <intelikey> nu- the alternate install CD
[04:12] <stdin> nu-: yes
[04:12] <nu-> stdin, intelikey: thanks
[04:12] <intelikey> SolidSource only sense 4.10
[04:12] <stdin> nu-: the installer is the same as the ubuntu one, except with a Qt frontend
[04:12] <Fizzbane> If i have a soundblaster audigy sound card do i have to install or do anything for it to work?
[04:13] <stdin> !soundblaster
[04:13] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[04:13] <SolidSource> intelikey: ok....its useless knowledge so I won't remember
[04:13] <intelikey> Fizzbane possable that you would need to insert a kernel module.
[04:13] <NightBird> so...Herd should be released sometime next month?
[04:13] <nu-> stdin: qhy qt?
[04:14] <nu-> why*
[04:14] <intelikey> SolidSource yes all man's knowledge is useless.
[04:14] <nu-> kubuntu uses qt?
[04:14] <intelikey> it's all vanity and vexation of spirit.
[04:14] <NightBird> nu-, kubuntu uses kde, which is built on qt...
[04:14] <Fizzbane> intelikey: does that mean i would have a new kernel and i would have to install my nvidia drivers and everything again?
[04:14] <mattp1984> hey i have a question, just installed kubuntu 6.10 on my desktop, it  has a 64 bit AMD processor
[04:14] <intelikey> Fizzbane no
[04:14] <mattp1984> and my USB devices arent working
[04:14] <mattp1984> any ideas?
[04:15] <Fizzbane> intelikey: ok good thanks
[04:15] <hendaus__> Lichte,  yes i am using it,but kad show to me (firewalled) and sometimes off
[04:15] <nu-> thanks
[04:15] <NightBird> do the usb ports work on other systems?  also, what are you trying to put in?
[04:15] <NightBird> er... do the usb ports work on other operating systems
[04:15] <mattp1984> i am trying to use my mouse
[04:15] <SolidSource> intelikey: not all knowledge is useless....is knowing how to rebuild your kernel when it breaks useless?
[04:15] <mattp1984> and yes they work on windows
[04:15] <NightBird> hm...
[04:16] <mattp1984> i used lsusb, and it shows 3 devices
[04:16] <mattp1984> with and ID of 0000000
[04:16] <stdin> nu-: because Kubuntu uses KDE, which uses Qt (like Gnome uses GTK)
[04:16] <NightBird> mattp1984: are those 3 busses? or 3 devices?
[04:16] <mattp1984> 3 busses, each one says device 1
[04:16] <mattp1984> bus 1, device 1
[04:16] <intelikey> Fizzbane when you installed the nvidia driver it inserted a module into the kernel.   that's how hardware support is handled in linux.      a module is a block of code that when inserted into the running kernel, adds support for something that wasn't already supported in the krenel... in short "a driver"     (not all modules are drivers btw)
[04:17] <mattp1984> bus 2, device 1
[04:17] <mattp1984> etc
[04:17] <NightBird> I believe that means it's not detecting any devices then...
[04:17] <NightBird> well... maybe
[04:17] <intelikey> SolidSource yes it is.
[04:17] <NightBird> I'm not sure
[04:17] <nonuda_> guys, i want to run beryl, but i have problem with my nvidia driver, glxinfo | grep render show me this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10444/ , how do i fix this?
[04:17] <intelikey> SolidSource knowing that computers exist is useless...
[04:18] <SolidSource> intelikey: ok...enough...not doing the philosophy thing tonight...that was last night
[04:18] <mattp1984> any idea's on the USB thing?
[04:18] <Fizzbane> intelikey: well i learn something new everyday, and that is the most important one today.
[04:19] <NightBird> where are the desktop setups held at?
[04:19] <intelikey> Fizzbane unlike M$ linux can add and remove support for almost anything while running.
[04:19] <Fizzbane> intelikey: this is why linux is amazing
[04:19] <euphonic05> hi, my mic is not working on my dell inspiron 6400
[04:19] <stdin> nonuda_: do you have the glx module loaded in xorg.conf, like this http://pastebin.ca/396952 ?
[04:20] <euphonic05> or atleast on applications like skype
[04:20] <euphonic05> what can i do?
[04:20] <mattp1984> so i take it no ideas on the USB thing'
[04:20] <intelikey> e'plurabus unim  of the reasons why...
[04:21] <nonuda_> stdin, i have nvidia-glx status installed and so linux-restricted-modules
[04:21] <stdin> nonuda_: that's not what I asked
[04:21] <hendaus__> i am using amule it,but kad show to me (firewalled) and sometimes off,can anyone help thanx
[04:22] <nonuda_> ok..i check my xorg.conf
[04:22] <izauro> hola
[04:22] <intelikey> !es
[04:22] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:23] <Xaron> hola chicos
[04:23] <Xaron> necesito q me recomienden una aplicac P2P
[04:23] <hendaus__> !es
[04:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:24] <nonuda_> stdin, yup i see load "glx" in section module
[04:24] <intelikey> Xaron gaim
[04:25] <Xaron> gaim is messenger
[04:25] <SolidSource> nonuda_: you using nvidia? if so change "nv" to "nvidia"
[04:25] <Xaron> i need P2P aplication
[04:25] <SolidSource> Xaron: frostwire
[04:25] <SolidSource> !frostwire
[04:26] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:26] <stdin> !p2p
[04:26] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[04:26] <Xaron> frostwire works for kubuntu?
[04:26] <hendaus__> can anyone tell me how to turn off the monitor in 15 minutes?
[04:27] <c0nv1ct> i was just about to tell him how too
[04:27] <Xaron> ok boys thanks
[04:28] <nonuda_> yes..when i change the graphics adapter to nvidia, x wont start..i dunno why, it said fatal error running install command for nvdia, (EE) nvidia(o) : failed to load the nvidia kernel module..
[04:28] <c0nv1ct> nonuda_: is that the exact error? did it say why it couldnt load it?
[04:28] <c0nv1ct> nonuda_: and have you installed the latest drivers from nvidia.com?
[04:28] <intelikey> hendaus__ sleep 900 && apm -S
[04:29] <SolidSource> nonuda_: that sounds like linux-restricted-modules isn't installed...at least not correctly
[04:29] <nonuda_> yup..
[04:29] <SolidSource> c0nv1ct: why use the ones from nvidia.com.....they are in the repo
[04:29] <c0nv1ct> nonuda_: its a bit tricky, you have to install linux-restricted-modules, then remove nvidia-glx, then reinstall your drivers, then disable the nv module
[04:30] <c0nv1ct> repo has old drivers
[04:30] <aphroguy> Does anyone know if the gimp works on Kubuntu?
[04:30] <c0nv1ct> aphroguy: yes, with gtk libraries
[04:30] <hendaus__> intelikey,  ok where is that option on kubuntu?
[04:30] <nonuda_> i have linux restricted module installed
[04:30] <intelikey> hendaus__ idk.
[04:31] <c0nv1ct> nonuda_: are you using Edgy?
[04:31] <SolidSource> c0nv1ct: they aren't that old...
[04:31] <nonuda_> yup
[04:31] <intelikey> hendaus__ one could set the kde screen saver to do that maybe...
[04:31] <c0nv1ct> SolidSource: if hes using Edgy, they are like 8734 or something, thats way old
[04:31] <c0nv1ct> nonuda_: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336412
[04:32] <SolidSource> c0nv1ct: not really...but whatever, they work
[04:32] <c0nv1ct> nonuda_: that will get you setup with the latest drivers, and should get xorg running with the nvidia driver
[04:32] <c0nv1ct> SolidSource: newer drivers are much faster, especially with newer cards
[04:32] <nonuda_> ok..right now i'm downloading from http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9755.html , should it work too?
[04:32] <intelikey> hendaus__  man apm   was where i got that first idea.  well that and knowing bash syntax pretty well.
[04:33] <c0nv1ct> SolidSource: plus, the newer ones have GLX support
[04:33] <aphroguy> c0nv1ct: Can you point me to any forums or anything for how to install it properly?  Haven't really been able to find anything on the web with specifically Kubuntu.
[04:33] <SolidSource> c0nv1ct: I have GLX
[04:33] <nonuda_> and when i finish downloading, should i remove the nvidia-glx or not?
[04:33] <c0nv1ct> SolidSource: do you run XGL or AIGLX?
[04:34] <c0nv1ct> nonuda_: just follow the howto, it will do it all for you
[04:34] <nonuda_> ok then..
[04:34] <SolidSource> nonuda_: if both the nvidia-glx and the nvidia.com ones are installed...you need to remove of them
[04:34] <c0nv1ct> SolidSource: the howto explains how to disable the nv kernel module
[04:34] <nonuda_> oh ok..btw do u know envy?
[04:35] <soulrider> aphroguy: if you wanna install gimp just do "sudo aptitude install gimp"
[04:35] <SolidSource> c0nv1ct: yes, but some people miss that part for some reason
[04:35] <c0nv1ct> SolidSource: the difference between the new drivers and the ones in the repo are that the new ones dont require a seperate GLX or AIGLX to be installed
[04:36] <intelikey> i do.   i know envy every time i see someone post the specs for their box with gigs of ram and houndreds of gigs of disk space...  i know envy.
[04:36] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: lol
[04:36] <intelikey> :)
[04:36] <intelikey> !envy
[04:36] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[04:36] <duck_> does anyone know of an instant messagin client i can use with Linux?
[04:36] <nu-> what is the command to list which HDs are hd0, hd1, etc?
[04:37] <c0nv1ct> duck_: kopete, gaim, and a few more
[04:37] <Fizzbane> for soundblaster i want to install TiMidity right?
[04:37] <intelikey> nu- cat /boot/grub/devic*
[04:37] <flaccid> i fixed my printer problem. w00h00!
[04:37] <nu-> not grub though
[04:37] <duck_> c0nv1ct i've tried kopete and it didn't work quit well, and i'm very vain and i think gaim is ugly -_-
[04:37] <soulrider> i use GAIM
[04:37] <soulrider> i lvoe it! :D :P
[04:37] <rstanca> hello, I`ve installes kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu, is there a way to remove ubuntu-desktop by a single command?
[04:37] <intelikey> nu- if it's not grub   it's not hd0 hd1
[04:37] <c0nv1ct> kopete works fine for me
[04:37] <soulrider> but it sp,eto,es crashes
[04:37] <SolidSource> c0nv1ct: I don't have XGL or AIGLX installed
[04:38] <duck_> as do i... but it looks horrid in kubuntu
[04:38] <nu-> oh
[04:38] <c0nv1ct> SolidSource: you have GLX installed? as in nvidia-glx?
[04:38] <intelikey> nu- you can list partition and disk info    sudo fdisk -l
[04:38] <soulrider> rstanca: there is a way to remove all the packages, yes
[04:38] <intelikey> or cat /proc/partitions
[04:38] <soulrider> i dont know how though, if i were you i would google it
[04:39] <SolidSource> !kdesufix
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdesufix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <SolidSource> !kdesu fix
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdesu fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <intelikey> kde suffix ?
[04:39] <intelikey> :)
[04:40] <chino> hi
[04:40] <chino> whats that command i can use on the commandline that installs programs ?
[04:40] <chino> adapteck or something
[04:41] <soulrider> apt-get
[04:41] <soulrider> or aptitude
[04:41] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install packagename
[04:41] <soulrider> but you can also use adept that has a nice gui
[04:41] <DisabledDuck> if i install KDE on Kubuntu, will it add all the KDE programs to kubuntu, or will it change it simply to the default version of KDE?
[04:41] <intelikey> can't use it on the clik
[04:41] <SolidSource> c0nv1ct: well whatever the differences are, I haven't looked (yes, nvidia-glx)...as it works I don't care at this point
[04:42] <rstanca> soulrider, ofcourse i google it first, apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && apt-get autoremove, but it only removes the small ubuntu-desktop package, i want firefox evolution etc gone
[04:42] <Jucato> DisabledDuck: Kubuntu is already using KDE
[04:42] <rstanca> and don`t wanna do it by hand
[04:42] <intelikey> DisabledDuck it will add what ever kde depends on that kubuntu doesn't    it wont change versions
[04:42] <DisabledDuck> Jucato: i know that, but if i type sudo apt-get install kde, it lets me install it
[04:42] <NightBird> so I'm wanting to get alglx working...
[04:42] <Jucato> rstanca: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[04:42] <NightBird> who wants to help me figure this out?
[04:43] <DisabledDuck> Jucato, and Kubuntu is missing a lot of my favorite KDE programs -_-
[04:43] <NightBird> I found an error in the log... saying dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed undefined symbol
[04:43] <intelikey> rstanca remove gconf  maybe
[04:44] <Jucato> DisabledDuck: "kde" in the repositories is a metapackage that installs *all* of the kde modules. and I mean all. that's a lot. everything in kdenetwork, everything in kdemultimedia, everything in kdegraphics, everything in kdeaddons, everything in kdeutils, *everything*
[04:44] <Jucato> why not just install what KDE app you want/need?
[04:44] <DisabledDuck> Jucato: thats a lot of apt-getting -_-
[04:44] <SolidSource> !sudofix
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudofix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <Jucato> compared to a lot of unneeded packages/programs?
[04:44] <SolidSource> DisabledDuck: why not use adept/synaptic then
[04:45] <Jucato> besides, you can just "sudo apt-get install package1 package2 package3 package4"
[04:45] <intelikey> Jucato on a system that starts with ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-minimal  installing  kde  is less of a dl than installing kubuntu-desktop
[04:45] <DisabledDuck> SolidSource: hmmm, good idea, i could just sift through all the ones i want
[04:45] <yinni> hola
[04:45] <Jucato> intelikey: you do mean kde-core do you?
[04:45] <intelikey> Jucato no
[04:45] <intelikey> i meant what i said.
[04:45] <rstanca> thanks jucato
[04:45] <SolidSource> !sudo
[04:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:45] <soulrider> rstanca: i didnt mean the google thing as an offece or as in "google it an dondt bother"
[04:45] <Jucato> hm.. really?
[04:46] <intelikey> absolutely
[04:46] <soulrider> rstanca: let me see if i can find the article for you
[04:46] <Jucato> well I haven't tried, but I'm imagining you're only talking about download time, not the number of packages installed, like what I was pointing out
[04:46] <rstanca> souldrider, don`t bother :)
[04:47] <rstanca> souldrider http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[04:47] <DisabledDuck> Does Konqueror have any benefits as opposed to Firefox?
[04:47] <intelikey> Jucato i have  ubuntu-desktop and kde installed  if i issue the command right now to install kubuntu-desktop it says "After unpacking 190MB of additional disk space will be used."
[04:48] <dk_ii> DisabledDuck it is the fastest browser for Linux (apparently)
[04:48] <SolidSource> DisabledDuck: depends on who you ask....I say no...Jucato says yes
[04:48] <intelikey> that's beside the point but yes the reason i have kde and not kubuntu-desktop is the dl size.
[04:48] <Jucato> intelikey: I never said anything about download size. I was talking about the number of packages that he might not need
[04:49] <DisabledDuck> well "fast" is besides the point, am i giving away my credit card number by using Konquerer is what i really wanna know
[04:49] <SolidSource> DisabledDuck: personally I get faster web surfing in firefox...but konqueror has faster program load time
[04:49] <SolidSource> DisabledDuck: they are both just as secure each other
[04:49] <aphroguy> soulrider: thanks a lot, worked like a charm!
[04:49] <soulrider> rstanca: thats the article i was looking for i think
[04:49] <chino> i gave my freind the command  "sudo aptitude install x11vnc" but yet he says he stil cant find the command
[04:49] <DisabledDuck> SolidSource: hmmm... alright, thanks
[04:50] <soulrider> 'no prob aphroguy, it doesnt matter if an app is a gnome app, it will still work in kde
[04:50] <intelikey> "installs *all* of the kde modules. and I mean all. that's a lot. ..." looked like you were implying that it was huge.   it's smaller than  kubuntu-desktop    thats all i was saying.
[04:50] <intelikey> Jucato ^
[04:50] <c0nv1ct> wow, i see what they mean about sudo messing up permissions when running X apps
[04:50] <c0nv1ct> installing ut2k3 with sudo totally screwed up
[04:50] <Daskreech> :-D
[04:51] <Daskreech> ut2k3?
[04:51] <Daskreech> Wow
[04:51] <Jucato> intelikey: I'm not only implying that it's huge. I mean that it is huge. but notice I didn't say anything about download size or speed
[04:51] <soulrider> rstanca: thats the article iw as looking for, i remeber some time ago someone came with the same issue you have now
[04:51] <soulrider> rstanca: im gonna bookmark it
[04:51] <pollyo> Hello
[04:52] <rstanca> soulrider you should thank jucato ::)
[04:52] <intelikey> but it's not that big.   lot of little bitty applets/modules and binaries   not huge in the sense of disk space or dl band width
[04:52] <pollyo> Anyone know if you can remote view a Windows XP system under Linux?
[04:52] <SolidSource> pollyo: yeah...VNC
[04:53] <DisabledDuck> Okay, check this out, when i boot up 6.10 (as opposed to when i used 6.06) i get a staticy lines across my screen, it really doesn't affect anything, but when i'm trying to show Linux off to people, they always go "wtf is that?" does anyone know a way i can fix it?
[04:53] <pollyo> SolidSource: What does VNC stand for or is that the app name?
[04:53] <Jucato> intelikey: I never said anything about file size either. please don't put words into my mouth
[04:53] <SolidSource> pollyo: its a type of program....Virtual Network Computing. (or something like that)
[04:54] <Jucato> very funny.
[04:54] <SolidSource> !vnc
[04:54] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[04:54] <Jucato> actually, no.  Looking at it now..
[04:54] <cosmo_> does beryl work with kubuntu?
[04:54] <chino> does the default sources.list come with internet resources ?
[04:54] <omeil> has anyone here ever ran a Gambas project before?
[04:54] <Jucato> intelikey: if you stop putting words in to my mouth, I'll stop being defensive
[04:55] <SolidSource> pollyo: www.realvnc.com is one of the main windows one....
[04:55] <SolidSource> pollyo: but there are so many out there
[04:55] <intelikey> no deal   as long as you talk you get words.
[04:55] <intelikey> :)
[04:55] <Daskreech> cosmo_: Yes
[04:55] <omeil> Does anyone here have Gambas installed? i can't seem to run any of my applicaitons on other comps
[04:55] <cosmo_> sweet
[04:55] <Daskreech> !gambas
[04:55] <ubotu> gambas: Visual development environment for the Gambas programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.15-1 (edgy), package size 952 kB, installed size 2224 kB
[04:56] <Minataku> Weeeee!
[04:56] <cosmo_> I'm liking kubuntu more and more  =)
[04:56] <omeil> so anyone have it installed? :D
[04:56] <pollyo> SolidSource: Does that realvnc.com work on both linux and windows?
[04:56] <omeil> i need someone to test a .sh for me
[04:57] <SolidSource> pollyo: yes...kubuntu has VNC built in though
[04:58] <SolidSource> !krfb > pollyo
[04:58] <pollyo> SolidSource: Ok.  I'll start with VNC and then look at the others.
[04:58] <omeil> So does anyone here have Gambas installed?
[04:58] <Skuller> i just came back from school...and i see Jucato and intelikey having a good time with each other's words?!....lol...keep it up
[04:59] <SolidSource> !krdc > pollyo
[04:59] <SolidSource> pollyo: those 2 programs are in the default install of kubuntu
[04:59] <intelikey> kde and *ubuntu-desktop depend on     vnc-common* xvncviewer*
[04:59] <nonuda_> !id
[04:59] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[05:00] <intelikey> omeil where's the script ?
[05:00] <pollyo> SolidSource: The free "Real VNC" looks like it is lacking quite a bit.
[05:00] <pollyo> SolidSource: I wonder if the other is any better.
[05:01] <omeil> intelikey: can i send it to you through Xchat?
[05:01] <intelikey> yeah
[05:01] <SolidSource> pollyo: thats just one...theres so many VNC programs out there
[05:01] <intelikey> well i mean you have my permission... as to whether you not you can....
[05:01] <omeil> intelikey: this is just a test proggy to see if it works on your system
[05:01] <Xiphias>  sudo bash
[05:01] <Xiphias> Whoops.
[05:01] <intelikey> k
[05:02] <intelikey> omeil i'm gonna read through it first.
[05:02] <omeil> intel did u recieve any requests in xchat?
[05:02] <intelikey> nope.
[05:02] <SolidSource> pollyo: are you trying to access the windows machine or use the windows machine to access the linux machine?
[05:02] <intelikey> you firewalled in ?
[05:02] <omeil> hmm u have msn or yahoo?
[05:02] <intelikey> no
[05:02] <intelikey> just pastebin it.
[05:02] <omeil> im on a network but the XP machine has one tho
[05:03] <pollyo> SolidSource: I want to be able to go both ways.
[05:03] <intelikey> unless it's like 800k  hehhe then the pastebin might explode
[05:04] <omeil> intelikey: would it work if its written in VB?
[05:04] <SolidSource> pollyo: well its easy for linux to access windows...but the other way can be tricky
[05:04] <intelikey> prolly not
[05:04] <omeil> !paste
[05:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:04] <pollyo> SolidSource: Access either desktop.  From Linux > XP and XP > Linux.
[05:04] <intelikey> you said .sh  i was thinking bash script    err shell script.
[05:05] <omeil> no its actually an executable.
[05:05] <intelikey> ok i'll give it a look anyway.
[05:05] <omeil> ill upload it
[05:06] <compilerwriter> Alright people this is the mystery.  I was having issues with my floppy drive.  So just to be certain the blasted thing didn't get accidently disconnected when I vacuumed out the box a few weeks ago I shutdown and opened up the box and took a look.  All was well, and the floppy thing got sorted out.  But now I am having trouble with my XDMP connections to my box via xming that I was not having before.  I can single
[05:06] <compilerwriter> instance proggys via ssh and tunneling, but I can no longer do the xdcp thing.    Where do I start looking?
[05:06] <SolidSource> pollyo: well follow the !vnc then ....cause VNC over SSH is most secure
[05:06] <SolidSource> pollyo: theres also this tut: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_connect_into_remote_Ubuntu_desktop_via_Windows_machine
[05:06] <omeil> http://files-upload.com/131473/UnixScape.tar.bz2.html try that
[05:06] <intelikey> k
[05:07] <pollyo> SolidSource: Great.  Thanks.
[05:07] <beta> hi
[05:08] <beta> would someone willing to help a noob out with the repositories? i might be a bit numb on this topic but i just dont get how exactly they work
[05:08] <beta> +be
[05:08] <compilerwriter> pollyo:  If you are behind a secure network the easiest thing to do should be XDMP session.  My problems with it notwithstanding.
[05:08] <compilerwriter> However do not XDMP across the internet.
[05:09] <intelikey> omeil i'm not registered there.
[05:10] <compilerwriter> beta the repos hold packages which basically self install programs.  That is the really simple concept.
[05:10] <pollyo> compilerwriter: What would be considered a secure network?
[05:11] <compilerwriter> pollyo:  I use XDMP from within my home network.  My linux box is headless.
[05:11] <omeil> intelikey: you don't need to be registered just scroll down and click download
[05:11] <beta> compilerwriter: yes i understand that part and i used synaptic and apt-get for awhile
[05:11] <pollyo> compilerwriter: I'll check that out as well. thanks.
[05:11] <beta> but i never really basically understood the concept really
[05:12] <compilerwriter> pollyo: I would never do it over the net though to another machine.  XDMP is not secured for that.
[05:12] <pollyo> compilerwriter: The two computers are on my homenetwork.
[05:13] <compilerwriter> pollyo:  What I did was use Xming as my xserver on my Windows box.
[05:14] <beta> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:14] <beta> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:14] <beta>   Major opcode:  144
[05:14] <beta>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:14] <beta>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:14] <beta> Failed to open device
[05:14] <beta> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:14] <beta>   Major opcode:  144
[05:14] <beta>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:15] <beta>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:15] <beta> Failed to open device
[05:15] <beta> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[05:15] <beta> kate: WARNING: Can't open /root/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml
[05:15] <beta> argh...sorry didnt mean to flood the channel
[05:15] <nixternal> beta, sorry bout that
[05:15] <nixternal> !pastebin
[05:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:15] <beta> sorry i didnt know it would auto send it on middleclick
[05:15] <nixternal> you got collected in my script
[05:16] <splunge> obnewbiequestion: how to install / where to find kuickshow for Edgy?
[05:16] <beta> its ok i didnt mean to tho sry
[05:16] <omeil> beta:is that what it sent to you in terminal?
[05:16] <nixternal> beta: understandable :)
[05:16] <compilerwriter> Pollyo:  See this site for setup:  freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming  It has a good example of XDMCP  a little down the page.  You can get Xming and the fonts from sourceforge.
[05:16] <compilerwriter> beta: then what is the problem you are having with repos?
[05:17] <beta> omeil: yup, and i was a bit confused does the error refer to the bookmarks thingy or is it something serious?
[05:17] <pollyo> compilerwriter: Ok.
[05:18] <beta> compilerwriter: might i query you about it? i gotta warn you though that im really a bit numb on this topic
[05:18] <omeil> beta: im not sure,my error goes down to failed to open device then executes :( damn gambas and its gay programming lol
[05:18] <beta> omeil: what do you mean by gambas?
[05:19] <omeil> !gambas
[05:19] <ubotu> gambas: Visual development environment for the Gambas programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.15-1 (edgy), package size 952 kB, installed size 2224 kB
[05:19] <beta> ok thx ;)
[05:19] <omeil> its a programming language similar to VB
[05:19] <Skuller> What do you do when a Sardar throws a hand grenade at you?
[05:19] <Skuller> Pull the pin and throw it back.
[05:19] <beta> well it opned up in kate...so ill look into it later
[05:19] <Skuller> What do you do when a Sardar throws a hand grenade at you?
[05:19] <Skuller> Pull the pin and throw it back.
[05:19] <Skuller> What do you do when a Sardar throws a hand grenade at you?
[05:19] <Skuller> Pull the pin and throw it back.
[05:19] <Skuller> What do you do when a Sardar throws a hand grenade at you?
[05:19] <Skuller> Pull the pin and throw it back.
[05:19] <omeil> cool
[05:19] <Skuller> sorry
[05:19] <Skuller> it was the lag
[05:20] <splunge> question: How to install (or where to find) kuickshow for Edgy?
[05:20] <pollyo> BRB
[05:21] <beta> my sources.list seems to be terrribly messed up....it always seems after a fresh install
[05:22] <beta> basically every repository is uncommented....there isnt even a cd reposoitorie at all
[05:23] <compilerwriter> beta query away.  Hopefully I can help.
[05:23] <griphiam> What file in /etc defines the network interfaces?
[05:23] <Daskreech> beta: They are all >un< commented?
[05:24] <intelikey> griphiam /etc/network/ifaces  ?
[05:24] <intelikey> interfaces
[05:24] <griphiam> After a previous upgrade (I have one on going now), I lost eth1 which is my wireless
[05:24] <beta> Daskreech: yes every single last one....not even the cd repository is there which should be the case after fresh install according to the handbook
[05:25] <beta> compilerwriter: cool
[05:25] <griphiam> Its still defined in /etc/network/interfaces, however its not listed when I do ifconfig
[05:25] <griphiam> Any ideas where to look?
[05:25] <intelikey> heh there isn't a download button on that page.   it's that confounded anti-textmode junk.
[05:26] <beta> compilerwriter: darn cant query you
[05:27] <intelikey> griphiam where to look ?    dmesg   ?          what are you looking for ?
[05:27] <beta> ok i will try it here and make a complte fool out of me...
[05:27] <griphiam> My eth1 interface...
[05:27] <griphiam> It should be listed when I do ifconfig but it's not
[05:28] <intelikey> griphiam only if it's up...
[05:28] <intelikey> griphiam sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[05:28] <griphiam> I tried doing "sudo ifup eth1"
[05:28] <griphiam> Let me try that
[05:28] <cube> can someone give a link so that i can follow on to how to isntall my video card"radeon 9800 pro" thanks
[05:29] <griphiam> I get "Error: No such device"
[05:29] <intelikey> !ati | cube
[05:29] <ubotu> cube: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:29] <cube> thanks
[05:29] <intelikey> griphiam then i sujest that it's needing a module.
[05:29] <duck_> how do i enable universe and multiverse in kubuntu?
[05:29] <griphiam> hmmm I must have lost it during a previous upgrade
[05:29] <intelikey> !repos | duck_
[05:29] <ubotu> duck_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:30] <intelikey> griphiam if you know the module name (if it's in the kernel modules)  sudo modprobe modulename
[05:30] <griphiam> when I do "dmesg | grep -i wireless" I can see my hardware... ipw2200
[05:31] <griphiam> would ipw2200 be the modulename?
[05:31] <intelikey> ah wireless.  maybe not eth#  something else
[05:31] <intelikey> !wifi | griphiam
[05:31] <ubotu> griphiam: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:32] <griphiam> Thanks... I'll take a look
[05:32] <griphiam> (frustrating thing is that it was working fine before)
[05:32] <intelikey> before what ?
[05:32] <griphiam> I did a apt-get upgrade a few days ago
[05:33] <beta> compilerwriter: well, one of the things i dont get is if there are programs that are available via more than one repositorie how does apt-get decids from which repository it gets the package for example:
[05:34] <griphiam> =)  But where's the fun in that?
[05:34] <intelikey> i can break a non-updated system as good as anyone...
[05:35] <intelikey> :)
[05:35] <beta> compilerwriter: lets say i want to install firefox which probably is available in the main repo but there is also a newer version in universe...hich one will get installed?
[05:36] <beta> compilerwriter: do i always have to edit the sources.list before to make sure its gets the version of a software i want and not a newer (maybe unstable one)
[05:37] <intelikey> the newer if "universe" is enabled....  but in that case it would be "backports" not universe
[05:38] <intelikey> beta and you setup repos one time.    (answering for compilerwriter)
[05:38] <intelikey> who seems to have droped his connection.
[05:38] <beta> intelik: eek...so i indeed have to edit the sources.list before every install to make sure i get the stable...or the newest version of a software (whatever i prefer in that sepcific case)?
[05:38] <DisabledDuck> is there any way to get fonts from Windows onto Linux?
[05:39] <stdin> !fonts
[05:39] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:39] <intelikey> beta no you setup your sources.list one time.   no more.
[05:39] <beta> i will never get it i fear...
[05:39] <beta> sheesh
[05:40] <intelikey> you update your database before you install...   in adept there is a update button and on the cli  sudo apt-get update
[05:40] <griphiam> hmmmm
[05:40] <SolidSource> beta: you could just update the sources.list file
[05:40] <griphiam> For some reason in my modprobe.d directory I have a ipw3945 file
[05:40] <griphiam> dmesg distinctly says ipw2200
[05:41] <intelikey> griphiam does lshw  tell you what it is ?
[05:41] <beta> intelikey: hm, thats not what i mean....let me try it again....ok, so there is a repository for stable packages of software and there is a repository that holds the latest packages of software (which might not always be stable) right?
[05:42] <pollyo> compilerwriter: I went with the freevnc (for now)  I am looking at my windows xp desktop from kubuntu.  It was a snap to install.
[05:42] <griphiam> It says network:1 UNCLAIMED and it is a Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
[05:42] <nonuda_> i try to edit this file /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common, i don't have gedit, how do i do it without gedit?
[05:42] <intelikey> beta  there are such repos but not the   ubuntu supported repos.
[05:43] <stdin> nonuda_: kate
[05:43] <intelikey> beta in theory, everything in ubuntu official repos should work.
[05:43] <stdin> nonuda_: kdesu kate /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[05:43] <nonuda_> ok...thanks
[05:43] <beta> intelikey: hm, ok but basically what i mean is there are different versions of the same software in the ubuntu repos (main, rstricted, universe and multiverse) right?
[05:44] <SolidSource> stdin: you wouldn't know where I could get kernel <IP_ADDRESS> or even 2.6.20 in edgy....without compiling it myself
[05:44] <griphiam> intelikey : since lshw can see it, how do I assign it (give it a logical name?)
[05:45] <intelikey> generally no.   different versions would be in the  update and security version of the same main  or universe repo
[05:45] <beta> intelikey: i accepted..hope it works....wouldnt hurt to take a look at yours mine seems messed up
[05:45] <omeil> Acetoneiso is pretty good :D
[05:45] <intelikey> griphiam what does it see?
[05:46] <griphiam> intelikey : It says network:1 UNCLAIMED and it is a Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
[05:46] <intelikey> beta yes that's for referance   didn't intend you to just copy it over and use it.   although if the version "dapper/edgy/feisty" is the same it should work.
[05:46] <griphiam> intelikey : network:0 is assigned the logical name eth0 (and its the wire)
[05:46] <beta> inteli: ok if thats the case then i think i got it now
[05:47] <stdin> SolidSource: you *could* try and download the debs and install them, or add the feisty/main repo, install the linux-image package (without updating anything else)
[05:47] <intelikey> griphiam second.
[05:47] <griphiam> np
[05:47] <beta> intelikey: i always thought there were different versions of some software packages in the repos....so i dindt understtand how it would ecide which ones to get in that case
[05:47] <SolidSource> stdin: my head hurts already...
[05:48] <stdin> SolidSource: it is probably less dangerous to compile it
[05:49] <cube> can i get the link on to how to isntall the video card drivers. thanks again
[05:49] <intelikey> griphiam what does    lsmod | grep ipw2200    say ?
[05:49] <omeil> !bin
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <SolidSource> stdin: ....I'll see...just trying to get latest nvidia-glx package...but my kernel isn't high enough for it
[05:50] <griphiam> intelikey : ipw2200               148040  0
[05:50] <griphiam> intelikey : ieee80211              34760  2 ipw3945,ipw2200
[05:50] <intelikey> SolidSource can you help griphiam get second wifi card up ?
[05:50] <omeil> mono-<IP_ADDRESS>_2-installer.bin how do i install bin files again?
[05:50] <intelikey> looks like the driver is inserted
[05:51] <intelikey> or stdin ?
[05:51] <SolidSource> intelikey: ....no, don't use any wifi with linux...
[05:51] <stdin> omeil: any reason for needing to install that?
[05:51] <intelikey> SolidSource k
[05:51] <SolidSource> intelikey: so I don't know much about the wifi
[05:51] <omeil> stdin: programming
[05:51] <stdin> intelikey: I don't have a wireless connection, so I wouldn't know
[05:51] <intelikey> well that makes three of us.
[05:51] <griphiam> =)
[05:52] <stdin> omeil: and you aren't using the one packaged by ubuntu, why?
[05:52] <griphiam> (I'm looking through the bug reports at the moment)
[05:52] <omeil> there is on packaged by ubuntu?
[05:52] <beta> intelikey: so i should have every official repo put after the security and update archives like this: "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu main restricted universe multiverse" and the same for the update archive?
[05:52] <stdin> !mono
[05:52] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[05:52] <intelikey> beta yeah.
[05:53] <stdin> omeil: yeah, just search for it in adept, or "sudo apt-get install mono"
[05:53] <beta> intelikey: unfortunately the file transfer didnt work
[05:53] <compilerwriter> I figured out what went wrong with xdmcp
[05:53] <griphiam> AHHH
[05:53] <compilerwriter> on my box.
[05:53] <omeil> stdin:the packaged one is old tho
[05:53] <intelikey> beta i'll paste it.
[05:53] <griphiam> Ummm  I did dmeg | grep ipw2200 (should have done it before)
[05:54] <stdin> omeil: but it's known to work with your system
[05:54] <griphiam> [   24.936000]  ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
[05:54] <griphiam> [   26.304000]  ipw2200: Unable to load ucode: -62
[05:54] <griphiam> [   26.304000]  ipw2200: Unable to load firmware: -62
[05:54] <griphiam> [   26.576000]  ipw2200: failed to register network device
[05:54] <griphiam> [   26.576000]  ipw2200: probe of 0000:02:02.0 failed with error -5
[05:54] <compilerwriter> now can some one tell me how to make certain that kdm is my default dm?
[05:54] <stdin> !paste
[05:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:55] <griphiam> Sorry =)  I'll use it next time
[05:55] <stdin> compilerwriter: edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager to say "/usr/bin/kdm"
[05:55] <beta> intelikey: maybe i can send you mine....so you could tell me if its messed up or not
[05:55] <compilerwriter> Thanks stdin
[05:55] <griphiam> I'm not sure what to do with the error though
[05:55] <intelikey> beta http://pastebin.ca/397031
[05:56] <intelikey> or http://pastebin.ca/raw/397031
[05:56] <pollyo> BBL
[05:56] <beta> intelikey: for example i havent got an update mirror anywhere instead there is an entry like this http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates
[05:56] <beta> intelikey: ill have alook - thx!
[05:57] <intelikey> i'm out for a while.
[05:57] <compilerwriter> pollyo are you still with us?
[05:58] <beta> intelikey: thx for helping!
[05:58] <intelikey> griphiam /etc/w<something>    not eth   but i dont' know.
[05:58] <beta> intelikey: bye
[05:58] <intelikey> beta luck with it.
[05:59] <compilerwriter> beta did you get things sorted out?  I sort of had to take a phone call.
[06:00] <beta> compilerwriter: the fog cleared a bit thx for asking! but i stil dont understand every part of it
[06:01] <compilerwriter> beta:  It would take several hundred people to be certain we had all the nuances of every little bit of linux understood completely.
[06:01] <compilerwriter> beta: live and learn.  We do what we can to help here.
[06:01] <compilerwriter> Good night; or, Good morrow as the case may be for you all.
[06:02] <beta> compilerwriter: hehe yes im very thankful for you guys helping out here - dindt want to come across wrong sry
[06:02] <beta> compilerwriter: english isnt my native language
[06:02] <beta> compilerwriter: gn8 and thx again
[06:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: you see the post?
[06:06] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: not yet. haven't checked my feeds
[06:07] <SolidSource> Admiral_Chicago: weren't you going to send me some documentation on something?
[06:07] <Admiral_Chicago> kk, i seemed to have fixed my issue. the relevant stuff is second paragraph
[06:08] <Admiral_Chicago> SolidSource: i'm sorry, for what was I supposed to send you doc work?
[06:08] <SolidSource> Admiral_Chicago: something on firefox...
[06:08] <SolidSource> Admiral_Chicago: don't remember much more than that though
[06:08] <Admiral_Chicago> SolidSource: KDE integration?
[06:09] <SolidSource> Admiral_Chicago: yeah....and if it says kpart will start working in firefox...I will be very very happy
[06:09] <Admiral_Chicago> kpart does what?
[06:09] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry it has been a while
[06:09] <Admiral_Chicago> plus, just got the intratubes working
[06:09] <griphiam> intelikey : thanks for your time!  I'm going to try a bit more to play with the driver or kernel (can't tell which) and if necessary, go back to the last kernel
[06:09] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: the post entitled "Frustration"
[06:10] <Jucato> ?
[06:10] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[06:10] <SolidSource> Admiral_Chicago: kpart gives konqueror java, flash and stuff
[06:10] <Admiral_Chicago> i fixed the frustrating part it seems though Jucato
[06:10] <Admiral_Chicago> ah yes.
[06:10] <Admiral_Chicago> sic
[06:10] <SolidSource> !kpart
[06:10] <Admiral_Chicago> err give me a sec
[06:10] <Jucato> :)
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <SolidSource> hmm
[06:10] <SolidSource> Admiral_Chicago: well..its on the kde website docs
[06:11] <ashmaus> 'lo all
[06:11] <SolidSource> BRB...need to restart
[06:11] <Jucato> rewhat? :D
[06:11] <SolidSource> Admiral_Chicago: be back...just finished upgrading video drivers
[06:12] <cosmo_> this is odd, I edited the xorg file like the guide said to enable twinview and it works in ubuntu but it is not using my second monitor in kubuntu. any ideas?
[06:13] <ashmaus> With MS Vista, failure is not an option
[06:14] <ashmaus> It comes pre-installed
[06:14] <cosmo_> lol
[06:15] <SolidSource> alright
[06:15] <ashmaus> new vid work alright?
[06:15] <SolidSource> yep
[06:15] <SolidSource> even see new features in the config
[06:17] <ashmaus> What's a good wireless card for Kubuntu?
[06:17] <beta> would this be the correct entry to have all official ubuntu repos enabled: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse ?
[06:18] <ashmaus> Or anyone got a good link for a guide for Broadcom on a amd64?
[06:18] <nixternal> anything with the Orinoco, Atheros, or PrismII/54 chips
[06:18] <beta> (ubtade and security not included)
[06:18] <beta> +p -b
[06:18] <SolidSource> ashmaus: well in dapper...I used intel and msi...but I haven't used wireless in linux for a while
[06:19] <nixternal> beta: that would be correct for all of the main dapper packages, but you would also want
[06:19] <nixternal> dapper-updates and dapper-backports on seperate lines
[06:19] <ashmaus> thx nixternal, which of those would you reccomend?
[06:19] <nixternal> i.e., ->  deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[06:19] <nixternal> and then one for dapper-backports
[06:20] <ashmaus> Solid, you should try it...computing in the great outdoors....   :)
[06:20] <SolidSource> !source-o-matic > beta
[06:20] <beta> nixternal: yep, hold on is this correct for all official ubuntu update repos: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[06:20] <nixternal> ashmaus: any of the 3 as they have open drivers, so you can get full function with the cards
[06:20] <nixternal> beta: you got it
[06:20] <beta> nixternal: sorry you posted it already
[06:20] <nixternal> hehe, tis ok
[06:20] <SolidSource> ashmaus: I use wireless..but I got windows on laptop cause I got tired of wireless problems in kubuntu...didn't have wireless problems in fedora or SuSE
[06:21] <beta> nixternal: now for security: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse ?
[06:21] <SolidSource> ashmaus: waiting for Feisty before trying again
[06:22] <userund> SolidSource, the underlying programs are all the same.  you can get wireless up and running on all distros if it works on one
[06:22] <userund> maybe not _out of box_ all the time
[06:23] <SolidSource> userund: never said I didn't get it to work...just didn't like the intermentant disconnects
[06:23] <ashmaus> I'm running Feisty on a laptop (dual-booting with XP), the KNetworkManager can tell me what I have in the box, it just can't activate it.
[06:23] <userund> SolidSource, intermittent.  well, whatever works
[06:23] <beta> its abit confusing that there is an extra mirror for security but not for updates
[06:24] <SolidSource> userund: spelling....not something I pride myself in
[06:24] <computerex> are there any screen shots of KDE 3.5.6 ?
[06:24] <SolidSource> userund: nor do I even pay attention most of the time
[06:24] <beta> can someone confirm this is the correct entry to enable all oficial security repos: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[06:25] <userund> SolidSource, whatever works
[06:25] <beta> SolidSource: thx for the hint just noticed it
[06:26] <SolidSource> ashmaus: it can't activate your cards?
[06:26] <SolidSource> card *
[06:26] <beta> ok should be correct then
[06:26] <kRush> hi, where would be a good place to install games like quakeIV or WoW? /usr/games, ~/whatever does it matter at all?
[06:27] <userund> doesn't matter really.  /usr/local or /opt is fine too as well as ~
[06:27] <kRush> ok thx
[06:28] <ashmaus> Nope. It tells me the propper version and everything, just won't activate it.  Forums say it's a driver issue
[06:28] <beta> what do i need the sources for (deb-src)?
[06:28] <ashmaus> Used a tutorial to install a different driver with ndiswrapper, but that failed
[06:29] <SolidSource> ashmaus: ok you convinced me...I'll install kubuntu laptop....though it may take a bit
[06:29] <unix_infidel> SolidSource: well if you dont need KDE use the server install cd.
[06:29] <userund> kde rules.
[06:29] <unix_infidel> wont take more than 15minutes that way :)
[06:30] <ashmaus> Other then that one issue, *IMHO* Feisty kicks ass
[06:30] <SolidSource> unix_infidel: trying to troubleshoot something in kde...so kinda need it
[06:30] <unix_infidel> ashmaus: really?  gimme a couple reasons, i'd bein interested to hear your input.
[06:31] <SolidSource> actually....I can't installl linux on my laptop....doesn't support SLI
[06:32] <ashmaus> Ok, mostly UI stuff and how easy it is to configure to my taste.
[06:32] <ashmaus> SLI?
[06:32] <userund> nvidia?  nvidia supports their cards pretty well
[06:33] <SolidSource> Nvidia SLI....2 video cards acting as one...just you all the driver features for it to work correctly
[06:33] <SolidSource> just you have to have*
[06:33] <unix_infidel> SolidSource: what do you need sli?
[06:33] <userund> yeah, on a laptop of all things
[06:33] <unix_infidel> SolidSource: also, linux does support sli.
[06:33] <SolidSource> unix_infidel: ultimate graphics rendering
[06:33] <unix_infidel> SolidSource: for what?
[06:34] <SolidSource> unix_infidel: gaming
[06:34] <unix_infidel> ultimate=productive....gaming...
[06:34] <unix_infidel> SolidSource: if you want to be gaming, i mean really GAMING, stick to windows.
[06:34] <userund> gaming is not really a reality on linux.
[06:34] <unix_infidel> i'm not here to convince gaming fanboys of why they should run linux, only that if they spend most of their day gaming, they should stick to windows.
[06:34] <SolidSource> userund: yeah true...though I have WoW running just as good on linux as windows
[06:35] <unix_infidel> SolidSource: right, but how intensive is wow.
[06:35] <ashmaus> I am still new to this "Linux thing", but I checked out a few distros (Fedora, Sabyon (several more in a drunken haze) and Feisty seems to have the best mix of "tools" eye-kandy and ease of use.
[06:35] <computerex> Yesterday I ran dos box and played Dangerous dave and Prince of persia :D
[06:35] <SolidSource> unix_infidel: got Dooom 3 working too
[06:35] <unix_infidel> SolidSource: last time i played doom was on my win95 box.
[06:35] <userund> SolidSource, WoW is good work but Doom3 runs natively on linux
[06:36] <SolidSource> userund: ummm not last I looked, at least its not the box
[06:36] <unix_infidel> SolidSource: and again,*THERE IS* linux support for SLI
[06:36] <userund> SolidSource, doesn't say on the box but it does.  if you're running it in wine, you're probably not getting the best performance you could.
[06:36] <unix_infidel> but unless you're running a rendering cluster like me, you wont need it.
[06:36] <userund> it's native
[06:36] <SolidSource> unix_infidel: yes...but for the GO cards?
[06:36] <unix_infidel> SolidSource: sure thing.
[06:37] <ashmaus> I think Vista will be a great boost for Linux gaming
[06:37] <unix_infidel> ashmaus: i have to disagree there, i think dx10 and dx9l is going to clinch gaming for windows platforms.
[06:37] <userund> ashmaus, not so sure about that.  directx 10 could leave linux behind especially since they're dropping opengl support from what I heard.
[06:37] <SolidSource> unix_infidel: theres not even a linux driver for GO cards...so sacrafice my low battery life even more
[06:38] <unix_infidel> SolidSource: ok, good for you.
[06:38] <unix_infidel> i'm not here to convince you of what i've already told you.
[06:38] <unix_infidel> and i know what i've told you to be true.
[06:39] <SolidSource> unix_infidel: ok, so it supports SLI...but the automatic disabling of 1 card when on battery is where I'm finding problems
[06:39] <unix_infidel> SolidSource: again, you are a fool is you need to be doing advanced rendering on battery.
[06:39] <unix_infidel> especially SCALABLE rendering.
[06:39] <beta> could sombody try to reach  http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu for me?
[06:39] <ashmaus> Well, you may be right there, but I think the price and problems will draw more people to linux
[06:40] <userund> beta, works well
[06:40] <SolidSource> unix_infidel: ok...don't be an ass...you obviously don't understand what I'm saying
[06:40] <beta> it seems i cant connect neither via apt-get or adept
[06:40] <beta> damn
[06:40] <beta> userund: thx
[06:40] <userund> ashmaus, I'd hope so but I doubt it.  the first SP will probably disable their annoying user control system by default or something, and everyone's buying it on their next PC as is...
[06:41] <userund> ashmaus, won't keep me from moving my family over to ubuntu though. :)
[06:42] <cosmo_> this is odd, I edited the xorg file like the guide said to enable twinview and it works in ubuntu but it is not using my second monitor in kubuntu. any ideas?
[06:42] <userund> beta, try taking out de
[06:42] <ashmaus> All the computers for sale at Staples said to re-format and install Ubuntu
[06:42] <userund> just http://ubuntu
[06:42] <ashmaus> :)    hey, don't look at me that way...they had it coming
[06:43] <userund> ashmaus, someone should write that virus.  format c: ; apt-get dist-upgrade linux
[06:43] <beta> userund: archive.ubuntu u mean?
[06:43] <cosmo_> lol
[06:43] <userund> beta, yeah right
[06:43] <beta> http://archive.ubuntu
[06:44] <beta> userund: that seems to work...but dont i have to use the german location to get the sofware with the corret localization installed already?
[06:45] <beta> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ gives http://de.archive.ubuntu as well
[06:45] <beta> hm
[06:45] <userund> beta, i'm not sure, but try it out and install a small program
[06:46] <KrAmMeR> phew i finally figured out how to fix my resolution
[06:46] <beta> well does it mean the german servers are down or the adress is invalid
[06:46] <ashmaus> Is there a way to have it read-ou-loud this text?
[06:46] <beta> nobody can tell i guess
[06:46] <userund> neither, I can reach them no problem.  maybe it's a dns issue for you?
[06:46] <cosmo_> man the more I am using Kubuntu the more I am liking it
[06:47] <ashmaus> Or even read-out-loud a text file?
[06:47] <userund> ashmaus, probably some software in the repos but I've never looked
[06:48] <beta> userund: hm could be i had dns problems with breezy as well...but then i couldnt even connect to webpages or use irc
[06:48] <cosmo_> try searching for text-to-speech
[06:48] <beta> userund: ill look into thta....thx though...i can at least check now if my sources.list works
[06:48] <ashmaus> I think I shall hunt. I would like to keep this window minimized and just listen while I work
[06:51] <userund> beta, try replacing the domain with the IP
[06:51] <userund> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:51] <userund> ^ for de.archive
[06:51] <userund> then you'll know if it's dns.
[06:51] <userund> i'm out.
[06:52] <nonuda_> !networking
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <ashmaus> kttsd! I will install it tomorrow morning
[06:53] <Berto> hi - what is the name of the GUI app for configuring X (specifically my mouse) in kubuntu?
[06:53] <Berto> i'm having scrolling issues in konsole
[06:53] <computerex> something is going very wrong. A lot of the apt-get's aren't working. sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:53] <cosmo_> wow just tryed out stellarium, that is awsome
[06:53] <beta> userund: ah! your a genius ;) thx a heap!
[06:53] <beta> bye
[06:53] <computerex> can somebody else try to see if it is working?
[06:55] <cosmo_> can anyone suggest a good program for converting video to mpeg2 and DVD authoring, would like to make some of my videos viewable on my DVD player
[06:57] <SolidSource> cosmo_: this one can convert...doesn't do DVD authoring though: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Multimedia+Converter++?content=53610
[06:58] <stdin> cosmo_: devede and kmediafactory are good for DVD authoring, and avidemux is a nice GUI for converting video, there are also ffmpeg and mencoder for the CLI
[06:58] <cosmo_> solidsource thanks
[06:58] <cosmo_> I will try those
[06:58] <SolidSource> cosmo_: theres this for DVD author...I like it ok: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/ManDVD?content=38347
[07:05] <nonuda_> No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel..i got this when i tried to install nvidia driver, what should i do?
[07:05] <stdin> use the ubuntu package
[07:06] <SolidSource> kubuntu and ubuntu use the same packages
[07:06] <nonuda_> stdin, adept manager right?
[07:06] <stdin> nonuda_: yeah, you have to have multiverse enabled tho
[07:07] <stdin> (aswell as restricted)
[07:07] <SolidSource> should put in the channel anouncement that the default sources.list is not complete and needs to be changed
[07:08] <nonuda_> i see it already main restricted universe multiverse
[07:08] <nonuda_> in the menage respo
[07:10] <stdin> nonuda_: ok, then install the linux-restricted-modules for you kenrel version and nvidia-glx
[07:10] <ashmaus> Well, must get to bed. See y'all tomorrow....
[07:11] <ashmaus> quit
[07:11] <ashmaus> duh
[07:12] <stdin> just being in #ubuntu is tiring
[07:13] <mervteck> lols
[07:14] <mervteck> i love linux =)
[07:14] <stdin> I love GNU/Linux
[07:15] <stdin> linux is only a part of what most people call "linux"
[07:15] <stdin> if that makes any sense at all
[07:15] <stdin> :P
[07:18] <cosmo_> this is odd, I edited the xorg file like the guide said to enable twinview and it works in ubuntu but it is not using my second monitor in kubuntu. anyone know how to fix this?
[07:19] <stdin> cosmo_: have you set it to use it in system settings?
[07:19] <cosmo_> I think so but I'm not sure, just started using and setting up kubuntu today
[07:20] <oblivion> heu is there any french?
[07:20] <stdin> !fr
[07:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:20] <oblivion> salut sa va
[07:20] <oblivion> ?
[07:21] <oblivion> you hou?
[07:21] <stdin> I know what sa va means, I just about remember that from school :P
[07:21] <stdin> and I'm tired, you?
[07:22] <oblivion> yes I'm very tired but I'm french
[07:23] <oblivion> and my english is not very good!
[07:23] <stdin> that makes you less encumbered by tiredness ?
[07:23] <stdin> oblivion: you know there is a french channel?
[07:24] <oblivion> no
[07:24] <oblivion> where?
[07:24] <stdin> #kubuntu-fr (for kubuntu) and #ubuntu-fr (for ubuntu)
[07:25] <oblivion> thx
[07:34] <deathnote> i've deleted more than 10 gb of files in a directory.. but using df -h to check, it only shows i cleared 3gb.. why is it like this?
[07:35] <ForgeAus> grrr wrong os to ask this
[07:35] <ForgeAus> um when I was running startxgl I wasn't able to pasue the screen is there anyway to pause or capture the output?
[07:36] <stdin> ForgeAus: redirect the output, like "startxgl &> ~/xglerrors.txt"
[07:37] <ForgeAus> ahh whats the & mean? I know > usually is it append?
[07:37] <stdin> ForgeAus: the & (in this case) means all, so the errors go there too
[07:37] <stdin> ForgeAus: and >> is append
[07:37] <ForgeAus> unfortunately even though it dumps out doesn't seem to be any errors
[07:38] <ForgeAus> (unfortunately its normally just the usage of some program, from memory xproc ??
[07:38] <stdin> some output may be going to stderr (instead of stdout) so you'll want the &>
[07:39] <ForgeAus> IC
[07:39] <ForgeAus> apparnetly blue-ray has been cracked already
[07:40] <stdin> wouldn't surprise me
[07:40] <stdin> DRM was cracked quickly enough too
[07:40] <ForgeAus> makes you wonder why they bother with this stuff...
[07:41] <ForgeAus> its meant to increase security but it gets cracked early anyway so means its just a nuisance rather than any form of actual protection
[07:41] <ghetek> how do i make a gui inputbox popup for my "sh" script?
[07:41] <ForgeAus> dialog?
[07:42] <ghetek> yeah
[07:42] <ForgeAus> kommander does stuff like that doesn't it?
[07:42] <ForgeAus> theres also a few programs like xdialog/kdialog (or for gnome I think its called zenity) that do simple gui dialogs...
[07:42] <stdin> ghetek: kdialog
[07:43] <ghetek> kdialog?
[07:43] <ForgeAus> yeah
[07:43] <stdin> kdialog rocks fot scripts
[07:43] <ghetek> thanks
[07:43] <ForgeAus> if you want to know more either ask stdin (he seems to know at leats something) and/or check out the man page
[07:44] <ForgeAus> personally aside from the programs existence and a breif idea of what it is for, I have absolutely no idea how to actually USE it lol
[07:44] <ghetek> thanks guys
[07:44] <ghetek> stdin: will kdialog work for xubuntu?
[07:44] <stdin> ghetek: only if they have it installed
[07:44] <ForgeAus> ghetek theres xdialog (for Xwindows in general)
[07:44] <ForgeAus> or zenity
[07:45] <ForgeAus> (kdialog probably requires at least qt)
[07:45] <ForgeAus> which I'm guessing xubuntu may have anyway
[07:45] <stdin> ghetek: I'd use an if function to check what they have anyway
[07:46] <ghetek> im making a usb booting hard drive
[07:46] <ghetek> and when you plug it in it automounts everything it sees
[07:46] <ghetek> then you can right click on an HD and backup
[07:46] <ghetek> the backend uses partimage
[07:46] <ForgeAus> casper?
[07:46] <ghetek> but i need a good dialog prog to let the user make a filename
[07:48] <kRush> how can I see how much diskspace is left on different partitions
[07:48] <ForgeAus> disk management?
[07:48] <stdin> ghetek: you can use something like this in your script to check what they have http://pastebin.ca/397105
[07:49] <ForgeAus> in system settings
[07:49] <ghetek> thanks stdin!
[07:49] <stdin> :)
[07:49] <stdin> no probs
[07:50] <ForgeAus> hehe what if they have all 3? :)
[07:50] <ForgeAus> it defaults to Xdialog
[07:50] <stdin> ForgeAus: it would pick the 1st it finds
[07:50] <kRush> ForgeAus: not really
[07:50] <ForgeAus> I'd go with kdialog, zenity, Xdialog (But a Gnome user would probably want Zenity, Kdialog, Xdialog)
[07:51] <DHGE> kRush: df -h
[07:51] <kRush> DHGE: thx
[07:51] <ForgeAus> I'm not entirely sure where XFCE fits in the grand order of QT/GTK etc...
[07:51] <stdin> ForgeAus: I said "something like" :P I've GPL'd it :)