[22:07] <ActionParsnip> unko: lspci shows all the hardware in the system thats attatched to the pci bus and lsusb shows all the hardware attatched to the usb bus
[22:07] <rello> hello
[22:07] <oCean_> riegersn: first check the ScriptAlias directive in apache config. To make sure it's using the correct directory
[22:07] <rello> !list
[22:07] <unko> ActionParsnip, yeah i know thanks for the commands tho
[22:08] <rello> by
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> unko: some of the OPs and me are working on a sdcript to help define the setup of a system for new users
[22:08] <demon_> rello,  use /msh ubottu
[22:08] <pros977> What's the best way to get ubuntu to boot straight to a terminal, skipping X. (I don't want to use recovery mode. I just want to the boot process to stop short of initializing X.
[22:08] <Nalfeshnee> ActionParsnip: Do you know anything about ndiswrapper?
[22:08] <unko> ActionParsnip, niceee
[22:08] <demon_> crdlb, are ya here man
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> Nalfeshnee: a little, theres ndisgtk that is a nice gui for it
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Nalfeshnee: what do you need?
[22:09] <Nalfeshnee> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I know that. I'm having issues with my wusb54gs.. It says it's not supported.. I need a work around.:P
[22:09] <olivier> olivier
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> unko: its stuff like that plus cpu probes / disk analysis yada yada
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Nalfeshnee: what identifier does lsusb say it is (assuming its usb)
[22:10] <Yervand> Hi I would like to use ext4 in ubuntu 8.10. How can I do this?
[22:10] <bobbyd> hi
[22:10] <unko> ActionParsnip, ha yada yada :P im not too good with that stuff tho im more like a idea person...somewhat other things too...more overclocker..some software
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> unko: all makes the world go round dude
[22:10] <metanil> my ubuntu(8.04) is not auto mounting when i insert my friends usb drive  (it auto mounts mine though) .. i have to manually mount it as sudo, but then i need to be sudo to write files on that usb drives..
[22:11] <bobbyd> can anyone tell me if it's possible to enable remote logins for a machine from an ssh session? I'd basically like to edit the thing that's written to when I select "local" in the "remote" tab of the login config manually from an an ssh session
[22:11] <unko> ActionParsnip, yes it dose
[22:11] <Nalfeshnee> ActionParsnip: Good question. I'm not sure. I know http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225206 -- says that 64 bit is not supported. <.<
[22:11] <olivier> hello
[22:11] <drcrazy> hi
[22:11] <pros977> you could sudo su
[22:11] <cicciobomba> ciao
[22:11] <pros977> That would drop you to a root shell.
[22:11] <pros977> Then you could run a file manager
[22:11] <bl_IP> has anyone had any troubles with wifi access when booting off a live dvd?
[22:11] <bobbyd> metanil: what does syslog say when you plug it in?
[22:11] <drcrazy> im having problems with my /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files :o/
[22:11] <TheMG> hey, im trying to install my graphics card drivers, but when i click the activate button nothing seems to happen
[22:11] <Nalfeshnee> ActionParsnip: Intrepid wont install on my system, and hardy doesn't have support for it. I tried the windows drivers (which arn't made by linksys, they never distributed any) and ndiswrapper says invalid driver.
[22:12] <olivier> hello
[22:12] <pros977> envyng for graphics
[22:12] <viator> where can i find a hardy menu.list to examine'
[22:12] <viator> to comaper to my own
[22:12] <pros977> apt-get install envyng-gtk
[22:12] <viator> compare
[22:12] <perlmonkey> demon_ haha
[22:12] <demon_> what perlmonkey
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> !envyng | pros977
[22:12] <Nalfeshnee> ActionParsnip: Will lsusb still help you deduce a work-a-round?
[22:12] <perlmonkey> demon_ re installing kde
[22:12] <demon_> pros977, DONT USE ENVY
[22:13] <PowerMoos> Does anyone know of a good program (HTTP able) to que up a bunch of files and directories ?  wget -m takes too long in getting small files, like php/html , and listing the folders.  Or perhaps is there a way to tell wget to download only jpg, avi, mpg, etc ?
[22:13] <demon_> perlmonkey, so where are we at
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Nalfeshnee: no, it will give you a hexadecimal identifier which you can websearch
[22:13] <PowerMoos> FileZilla doesn't accept HTTP
[22:13] <perlmonkey> demon_ i just installed the hardware drivers thing, went to sys -> admin -> hardware drivers.. it said no proprietory drivers in use on sys
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> pros977: envy is garbage
[22:13] <bobbyd> PowerMoos: yes there is, there's a whitelist thing in the help
[22:13] <perlmonkey> all blank, nothing to select :-/
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> perlmonkey: lspci | grep ga
[22:14] <viator> anyone running hardy that can pastebin their menu.lst??????
[22:14] <perlmonkey> ok
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> oops
[22:14] <joaopinto> PowerMoos, wget does allow to specify filename masks, read: man wget
[22:14] <austin> how can i run PS1 roms?
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> lspci | grep -i vga
[22:14] <metanil> bobbyd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/129543/
[22:14] <pros977> I agree, envy is not that great, but it will get the hardware accel going.
[22:14] <macman> guys im trying to mount a osx install as root and i get permission denied
[22:14] <macman> any ideas ?
[22:14] <bobbyd> viator have you google's for "hardy menu.lst" ?
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> austin: apt-cache search playstation
[22:14] <demon_> perlmonkey, can you see ant drivers at all
[22:14] <Nalfeshnee> ActionParsnip: Booting into Ubuntu, be back shortly.
[22:15] <joaopinto> !ot macman
[22:15] <austin> thank you!
[22:15] <joaopinto> !ot | macman
[22:15] <viator> yep
[22:15] <viator> i googled
[22:15] <ajitam> hi is some one here here uses program screenie. is there a way that you can add job directly by not running program it selfe ?
[22:15] <viator> people with varios other problems and how they fixed em
[22:16] <perlmonkey> demon_ nothing..  grep GA shows: 04:00.0 VGA compat controller: Matrox Graphics MGA G200 AGP rev 03
[22:16] <dougl> joaopinto, macman is using ubuntu and trying to mount mac partitions = ubuntu no?
[22:16] <bobbyd> viator, maybe the easiest thing is to install apt-file, update it, then ask it what package menu.lst is in, that should give you the default one
[22:16] <joaopinto> dougl, oh sorry didn't understood the question :\
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> pros977: fyi, envy won't work with matrox cards
[22:16] <demon_> perlmonkey, is it IN-USE
[22:16] <perlmonkey> demon_: how to verify lsmod?
[22:17] <joaopinto> macman, did you mount with sudo ?
[22:17] <macman> yea
[22:17] <macman> im root already
[22:17] <meoblast001> hi
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> perlmonkey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-mga/+bug/138920
[22:17] <PowerMoos> joaopinto, I'm not finding it
[22:17] <macman> i did a mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda3 /media/osx -o force < -- no good eaither
[22:17] <perlmonkey> oh sheesh i knew it, bug
[22:17] <meoblast001> how do i switch from Gnash to Flash non-free.... there is some plugin config option
[22:17] <demon_> dunno perlmonkey
[22:17] <bobbyd> macman: maybe it's the destination, try mounting somewhere else
[22:18] <oCean_> meoblast001: both installed? Use 'alternatives' method.
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> perlmonkey: here's a good example xorg.conf http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-906642.html
[22:18] <metanil> bobbyd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/129543/
[22:18] <perlmonkey> ffs those guys manage to mess up a driver thats old as the hills and been stable in every released since 6?
[22:18] <macman> bobbyd, i did a mkdir /media/osx
[22:18] <perlmonkey> ActionParsnip: thanks will give it a try
[22:18] <meoblast001> oCean_: how?
[22:18] <TheAngel> oid
[22:19] <perlmonkey> beginning to wish i had not upgraded now, only did it to get latest mythtv frontend
[22:19] <trim> hi all
[22:19] <PowerMoos> joaopinto, Perhaps it's the "-A acceptlist" option ?
[22:19] <trim> can anyone help me?
[22:19] <joaopinto> PowerMoos, search for Recursive Accept/Reject Options
[22:19] <oCean_> meoblast001: through commandline (man update-alternatives) or gui (use galternatives program, maybe install it first)
[22:19] <joaopinto> -A/-R
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> perlmonkey: the driver is already on your system but your xorg needs to be told to use it
[22:19] <trim> I'm trying to use the gCDEmu applet
[22:19] <joaopinto> PowerMoos, yup, it's -A
[22:19] <trim> I have it installed but how do I run it?
[22:19] <coreyman> Actionparsnip i get NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[22:20] <macman> ubuntu is /dev/sda1 osx = /dev/sda3 windows = /dev/sda2
[22:20] <PowerMoos> joaopinto, So I would make a file to give it , such as if I wanted to give it -i filelisttodownload ?
[22:20] <PowerMoos> joaopinto, or would I do -A mpg,avi,jpg,whatever ?
[22:20] <bobbyd> macman: maybe try chmod 777 on that dir
[22:20] <buckethed> i added "disallow bind_anon" to /etc/ldap.conf, restarted slapd, but i can still query the ldap directory anonymously.  any ideas?
[22:20] <joaopinto> PowerMoos, you do -A *.mpg,*.avi...
[22:21] <coreyman> Actionparsnip http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m330b8db7
[22:21] <PowerMoos> OK
[22:21] <trim> how do you run gCDEmu?
[22:21] <trim> gcdemu at the terminal isn't working
[22:21] <trim> "command not found"
[22:21] <aurax> oCean_ found it, UsePAM no
[22:21] <bobbyd> trim: isn't it in the menu somewhere?
[22:21] <trim> nope
[22:21] <aurax> instead of UsePAM yes :)
[22:21] <metanil> my ubuntu(8.04) is not auto mounting when i insert my friends usb drive  (it auto mounts mine though) .. i have to manually mount it as sudo, but then i need to be sudo to write files on that usb drives..  my syslog is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/129543/
[22:22] <oCean_> aurax: Aha! Nice find man.
[22:22] <trim> bobbyd: where would it be found? I can't find it anywhere
[22:22] <Guest61375> can you said me which are the servers of amule
[22:22] <Guest61375> ?
[22:22] <meoblast001> what if someone had typing tourettes in here?
[22:22] <ctp> hi folks. which lightweight media player do you prefer for a gtk installation (xfce4). banshee, exaile, rhythmbox?
[22:22] <aurax> yeh, it's not discussed at all, very strange ... :)
[22:22] <Nalfeshnee> ActionParsnip: Bus 007 Device 005: ID 13b1:000e Linksys  -- Google?;]
[22:22] <LjL> !offtopic | Guest61375
[22:22] <LjL> meoblast001: i'd have kickbanning tourettes
[22:22] <meoblast001> ha
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Nalfeshnee: on it
[22:23] <pete_> hi
[22:23] <Guest61375>  can you said me which are the servers of amule¿? please
[22:23] <Berzerker> what's the program I see people using that puts info on the side of their desktop?
[22:23] <pete_> I'm looking for help with GRUB ... am I in the right place?
[22:23] <Berzerker> kind of like desktopx for linux
[22:23] <LjL> !ot | Guest61375, in case you missed it the first time
[22:23] <joaopinto> Berzerker, screenlets ?
[22:23] <Nalfeshnee> ActionParsnip: Thanks so much for the help. :) -- Using 64bit version, incase you need to know that. 8.04
[22:23] <joaopinto> or google gadgets
[22:23] <dougl> Berzerker, you mean like screenlets go desklets?
[22:24] <Berzerker> I know
[22:24] <Berzerker> don't know*
[22:24] <Guest49986> Berzerker, yeah, screenlets
[22:24] <Guest49986> Gnome screenlets
[22:24] <Berzerker> it's like a program that puts lots of different computer stats on the right side of the screen
[22:24] <perlmonkey> ok is this normal: lsmod | grep mga.....  mga 0....   drm 1 mga
[22:24] <mib_2qc3xv> hello
[22:24] <_pete> can someone help with GRUB?
[22:24] <dougl> Berzerker, yeah - screenlets and gdesklets google should help you out
[22:24] <perlmonkey> mga 0?
[22:25] <Stylee> I need this it87 module, and when I try to modprobe it, I get this FATAL: Error inserting it87 (/lib/modules/2.6.27-13-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/it87.ko): No such device
[22:25] <bobbyd> _pete: just ask your question :)
[22:25] <viator> how log does apt file update take
[22:25] <viator> geez
[22:25] <Berzerker> http://www.sizzledcore.com/2008/08/09/ubuntu-themes-awesome-themes-for-linux/ ctrl+f for slickness black
[22:25] <bobbyd> viator: a while :)
[22:25] <Berzerker> it's the program in that screenshot
[22:25] <LjL> viator: moderately long... on my computer it freezes, though
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Nalfeshnee: use the cd you got for the driver, you need the .inf and the .sys file, dlink are a bit funny with support with you device
[22:25] <LjL> viator: if you just want to find a file quickly, use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[22:26] <Stylee> do I need to compile that kernel modul myself?
[22:26] <Nalfeshnee> ActionParsnip: Mmm. It's a linksys wusb54gs -- and the cd doesn't have 64bit drivers.
[22:26] <LjL> Stylee: well, how did you install it?
[22:26] <_pete> bobbyd, i have installed Ubuntu using 2 partitions /boot and /  - on a third partition I've installed MOBLIN OS  But I can't get Grub on /boot to point to it
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> Nalfeshnee: then i guess you should hit www.linksys.com
[22:26] <PunkiD> hola alguien que hable el español que me de una mano con wine, el problema es que no puedo entrar a ubuntu-es se me re cuelga el mirc
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> Nalfeshnee: i'm suprised cos linksys usually love linux
[22:27] <_pete> I don't know what entry to put in Grub to boot Moblin
[22:27] <Stylee> LjL ubuntu?
[22:27] <Nalfeshnee> ActionParsnip: Did. They didn't release 64bit drivers or linux drivers. The drivers I use on vista I found on some forum, and they don't work in ndiswrapper. <.<
[22:27] <LjL> PunkiD: como no puedes entrar en #ubuntu-es?!
[22:27] <_pete> I know that Moblin uses Lilo...
[22:27] <Stylee> LjL with the live CD
[22:27] <LjL> Stylee: no, the module. but nevermind, i can see it's installed by default
[22:27] <viator> what package does menu.lst come  in
[22:27] <PunkiD> LjL cuando entro al canal ese se me cuelga el mirc
[22:27] <PunkiD> :(
[22:27] <Geek`N`Proud> viator: grub
[22:27] <slashzul> how can u tell what packages are installed cli ?
[22:27] <LjL> Stylee: given it's there by default, then no you don't need to compile it
[22:27] <Berzerker> dougl: http://www.sizzledcore.com/2008/08/09/ubuntu-themes-awesome-themes-for-linux/ it's in the screenshot of slickness black
[22:27] <viator> there no search function
[22:27] <LjL> PunkiD: escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[22:28] <Geek`N`Proud> viator: it comes in grub
[22:28] <PunkiD> me caigo
[22:28] <PunkiD> mira...
[22:28] <Stylee> ljl, when I try to modprobe it I get an error
[22:28] <viator> si reinstall grub
[22:28] <macman> bobbyd, drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2009-03-10 15:27 osx
[22:28] <Geek`N`Proud> viator:
[22:28] <Geek`N`Proud> user@hp3700:~$ dpkg -S menu.lst
[22:28] <Geek`N`Proud> grub: /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst
[22:28] <Geek`N`Proud> =]
[22:28] <FloodBot2> Geek`N`Proud: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <Stylee> ljl FATAL: Error inserting it87 (/lib/modules/2.6.27-13-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/it87.ko): No such device
[22:28] <_pete> bobbyd,  no one answered
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> Nalfeshnee: hmm, looks like you will have to run 32bit ubuntu then, or buy a new usb wifi (Get a well supported one
[22:29] <Nalfeshnee> ActionParsnip: 32 bit wont install! t.t Thanks for the help!
[22:29] <tias> ciao!!
[22:30] <unko> is there any way of running itunes on ubuntu without going thought the whole patch process?
[22:30] <LjL> !it | tias
[22:30] <Craz3dLunatic> was having trouble with my internet staying logged on. Would get on for a minute and work then all throughput would stop dead... started suddenly, stopped suddenly
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Nalfeshnee: did you md5 check your iso and verify the burned cd was ok on the first boot screen
[22:31] <baldo> bonsoir
[22:31] <Craz3dLunatic> called alltel and they reported no problem with towers
[22:31] <tias> grazie..
[22:31] <baldo> comment rajouter des servers svp??
[22:31] <LjL> !fr | baldo
[22:31] <bittin_> http://doodle.com/dqxgz8hpg936dtf3
[22:32] <slinkis> How can i change from utf-8 to iso on my xchat settings? i cant seem to join some channels for some reason?
[22:32] <unko> any software that supports the ipod touch?
[22:32] <LjL> unko: not without jailbreaking it
[22:32] <unko> ljl, i can't i have the 2g...:[
[22:33] <shpook> Hello everyone. I'm having an issue with no sound after an update. "getent group | grep audio" has me listed as a member of the audio group. "sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" throws "Device or resource busy." And "ls -l /dev/ | grep audio" shows audi, dsp, mixer, and sequencer(2) registered to the audio group. Where do I go from here?
[22:33] <LjL> unko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[22:33] <LjL> unko: (next time, just buy some device that isn't purposedly tied to the manufacturer's software...)
[22:33] <tc111> ok nic kickers... here's what i want to do... 1 - server, 5 - nics (1-1Gb, 4-100Mb). server runs a firewall in a VM. i want to bond/aggregate/trunk (non- 802.3ad switches) using kernel bonding (mode 6) and inenslave on eth1-eth3. the host will not assign an address and bond0 (eth1-3) will be assigned to the VM. eth0 (1Gb) is LAN for firewall VM and eth4 is lan for server (8.04.2 - i386, 2GB ram, 2x200 [raid1] + 4 x 300 [raid5]). anyone see any issues?
[22:33] <unko> ljl, that guide won't work..my firmware is 2.2.1
[22:34] <LjL> unko: tough luck i guess
[22:34] <unko> LjL, ill just tryo to patch wine to get it working
[22:34] <LjL> unko: but no not really.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone#Syncing with Firmware 2.x possible!
[22:34] <Stylee> LjL is possible that in the 64bit kernel is not that module included?
[22:35] <viator> what are the lines that coe aftter your ubuntu kernel mine says ro splash
[22:35] <unko> LjL, eh...no thanks... i need to also add pictures and vids
[22:35] <viator> but i get no splash
[22:35] <LjL> Stylee: i guess it's possible, what does "find /lib/modules | grep it87" say?
[22:35] <g9andreas200> hi
[22:35] <LjL> unko: nothing on that page mentions WINE. i'd imagine if it could be used with WINE, then someone would have explained it.
[22:35] <dougl> hi
[22:36] <g9andreas200> i cant boot ubuntu
[22:36] <LjL> unko: though, no harm in trying i guess.
[22:36] <Stylee> ljl http://paste.ubuntu.com/129557/
[22:36] <unko> LjL, yeah i know how to get it working it's just a painful proccess
[22:36] <Nalfeshnee> ActionParsnip: Yes, I did. 8.10 just doesn't like my system.. I think it may be the harddrive and the 32 bit versions just don't work.
[22:36] <dougl> g9andreas200, sure you can - just be positive
[22:36] <Stylee> it seems it is
[22:36] <LjL> unko: then if you know that, then by all means add the instructions to that page, please.
[22:36] <g9andreas200> it giving me error " can"t start splash
[22:36] <Nalfeshnee> ActionParsnip: I have a core i7. i don't know if that has anything to do with it or not.
[22:36] <o0Chris0o> I am unable to get my lexmark 5340 printer working right, any ideas?
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Nalfeshnee: nothing at all
[22:37] <unko> LjL,  really?
[22:37] <shpook> I really don't mean to be a pain, but is anyone here experienced with sound issues?
[22:37] <LjL> Stylee: and your currently running kernel is? (uname -r)
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Nalfeshnee: its the chip in the usb device you are sing
[22:37] <unko> LjL, you know im talking about itunes right?
[22:37] <oCean_> Stylee: I read somewhere it87 does not support later chipsets. Not sure about the status. You might want to check your chipset against the current i87 capabilities
[22:37] <LjL> unko: it's a wiki, the information is only there as long as someone adds them
[22:37] <LjL> unko: yes. but itunes can be purchased legally, no?
[22:37] <Stylee> ljl http://paste.ubuntu.com/129557/
[22:37] <Stylee> ljl sorr
[22:37] <Stylee> ljl 2.6.27-13-generic
[22:38]  * perlmonkey has come to conclusion that 8.10 is b0rked
[22:38] <unko> LjL, you don't have to buy the software...im gonna use wine to run it. but with itunes 8.x you have to patch wine to get it to install and somewhat work
[22:38] <LjL> Stylee: ok so you have the module, what happens when you "sudo modprobe it87"? (also, which device is this for?)
[22:38] <Stylee> oCean_: hmm lm-sensors said that I should use it, I will check
[22:38] <g9andreas200> i modify the soutce.list
[22:38] <macman> trying to get info on a package
[22:38] <macman> apt-get info ?
[22:38] <g9andreas200> how can i recover it
[22:38] <perlmonkey> gonna have to uninstall 8.10 and write it off as a bad release :-/
[22:38] <LjL> unko: well, it would be extremely useful for iPod users if you could add instructions on doing that to that wiki page
[22:39] <Stylee> ljl FATAL: Error inserting it87 (/lib/modules/2.6.27-13-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/it87.ko): No such device
[22:39] <erUSUL> LjL: it87 is a lmsensors thing
[22:39] <unko> LjL, i have no clue how to do a wiki...wanna help me?
[22:39] <LjL> unko: also, can't itunes less than 8.x be used with it?
[22:39] <oCean_> Stylee: do you know your chipset revision? IT87.....
[22:39] <Stylee> ljl it is for a sensor
[22:39] <LjL> Stylee: remote control?
[22:39] <Stylee> oCean_: I have x58
[22:39] <unko> LjL, no not with the ipod touch...:[
[22:39] <erUSUL> LjL: those usually do not load automatically you have to add them to /etc/modules...
[22:39] <Stylee> ljl I think it is for controling fans
[22:39] <PunkiD> LjL sigo con el mismo proble :(
[22:40] <LjL> PunkiD: porque no utilizas un client IRC, ehm, serio?
[22:40] <drcrazy> i'm having the problem described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=919683
[22:40] <macman> found it
[22:40] <erUSUL> !lmsensors | Stylee
[22:40] <unko> LjL,  can i pm you?
[22:40] <LjL> Stylee: you're sure it's not this module you're after? lirc_it87.ko
[22:41] <perlmonkey> hello
[22:41] <PunkiD> LjL cual me recomendas xchat?
[22:41] <LjL> unko: wiki is easy, just register to it (i think anonymous edits are not allowed) then click Edit. you'll pick the syntax up by looking at what is there, you can always do Preview before saving, and if you do mess up, i can fix it
[22:41]  * perlmonkey falls back to 8.04
[22:41] <Stylee> LjL I don't know, will try sensor detect said it87 though
[22:41] <LjL> PunkiD: xchat o xchat-gnome funciona
[22:41] <drcrazy> everything works, but Apache can't determine the servers' fully qualified domain name... (and my Apache2.conf has a NameVirtualHost directive)
[22:41] <perlmonkey> newest does not = best
[22:41] <Gnea> perlmonkey: 8.10 hasn't been all that bad, although I was upset when k3b broke
[22:42] <unko> LjL,  ok..
[22:42] <drcrazy> I didn't have this problem when I installed my linux 2 months ago
[22:42] <perlmonkey> I think its better to stay a bit behind eh, too many surprises in new releases
[22:42] <PunkiD> LjL gracias, por tu ayuda, y por entenderme por que es medio extraño el problema :)
[22:42] <LjL> PunkiD: si quieres entrar en #ubuntu-es ahora, puedo hacertelo yo
[22:43] <perlmonkey> Gnea: i can't even get my gfx card supported and its the old g200 by matrox thats werked up to 8.04
[22:43] <TimothyP> Hi, I'm using Xubuntu and remastersys to create a live cd... it worked for a number of builds but then it stopped working... the live cd boots but it does not log in automatically... it simply asks for user and password which of course don't exists.... what might cause this. found many forum entries but no solution
[22:44] <Gnea> perlmonkey: wow... just for giggles 'n grins, have you had the time to try jaunty?
[22:44] <Operator> hi all
[22:45] <perlmonkey> Gnea: I wont touch it :P
[22:45] <perlmonkey> Gnea I'm going bak to 8.04 and never upgrading again :P
[22:45] <unko> LjL, how do i create a wiki page?
[22:46] <Gnea> perlmonkey: lol
[22:46] <anahata> oh no where is DreamGlider
[22:46] <darkfile> hehe
[22:46] <darkfile> go to 9.04
[22:46] <macman> i installed hfsprogs from apt-get .. i have no man page
[22:46] <macman> is this normal ?
[22:46] <LjL> unko: just type in the URL for a page that doesn't yet exist, and it will give you an option for creating it.  but i'd suggest you edit the existing iPod page instead...
[22:46] <darkfile> as its LTS, it will be "conservative" as well
[22:46] <LjL> darkfile: 9.04 won't be LTS
[22:46] <unko> LjL, whats the exitsting one?
[22:46] <darkfile> not?
[22:46] <darkfile> :(
[22:46] <darkfile> sorry
[22:46] <osmosis> I go through the install flash dialog in firefox, but after it completes,...no flash. Still says "Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page."  Using hardy.
[22:47] <darkfile> i thought the .04 are conservative LTS
[22:47] <LjL> unko, the one i gave you,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone. just add a chapter like "Sync using iTunes in WINE" or something
[22:47] <darkfile> and the .10 are the experimental have fun stuff
[22:47] <automatix> osmosis: try in an terminal "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[22:47] <LjL> darkfile: nope. 10.whatever should be LTS i think
[22:47] <darkfile> osmosis, do you use X64?
[22:47] <darkfile> or 32?
[22:47] <Berzerker> is there a way to stick a program to a certain workspace?
[22:47] <osmosis> 32
[22:47] <unko> LjL, sync? i don't know how to get the sync working
[22:47] <LjL> darkfile: .10 and .04 are just months
[22:48] <darkfile> yes
[22:48] <LjL> unko: eh, transfer files, whatever - i'm not too familiar with iPod terminology :)
[22:48] <darkfile> but usually the .04 releases are more conservative
[22:48] <unko> LjL, no i mean i only know how to get it installed on wine...
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> !lts
[22:48] <osmosis> automatix: flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[22:48] <darkfile> and the .10 releases are more "innovative"
[22:48] <LjL> darkfile: that could be, i've never actually noticed that. anyway they aren't necessarily LTS
[22:48] <automatix> osmosis: do you have other flash installed like gnash or else?
[22:48] <darkfile> hehe, ok thx
[22:49] <osmosis> automatix: nope, never.
[22:49] <LjL> unko: ah, but... getting it installed is one thing, actually getting it to talk to the iPod is, i'm afraid, a very different thing :\
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> osmosis: if you go to www.adobe.com and download the tar.gz file, you can extract the .so file to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[22:49] <osmosis> ActionParsnip: is that a better way ?
[22:50] <o0Chris0o> can someone help me install my lexmark printer?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> osmosis: its how i do it
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> o0Chris0o: what model?
[22:50] <automatix> !ask | o0Chris0o
[22:50] <osmosis> flash doesnt show up in the plugins dialog in firefox either
[22:50] <o0Chris0o> automatix, I didn't ask to ask a question, but thanks for pointing it out for others
[22:50] <unko> LjL, wait...when itunes installs dosn't it see the ipod as a acual ipod?
[22:50] <osmosis> so weird
[22:50] <o0Chris0o> ActionParsnip: its x5340
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> osmosis: sounds like a solution then. you'll need to run: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
[22:51] <unko> LjL,  i didn't install 8.x on ubuntu yet im in the proccess of doing so
[22:51] <unko> LjL, pm me so i can keep a convo with you i gotta go eat dinner. :]
[22:51] <LjL> unko: look, i don't have an ipod, but i really suspect iTunes under WINE won't see the iPod at all. try, but keep your expectations low.
[22:52] <osmosis> looks like the package contains just a bunch of directories. I dont even see the plugin.  http://dpaste.com/12214/
[22:52] <LjL> unko: well i'm not going anywhere (for a couple of hours), so just highlight me
[22:53] <spanther> hello there :-) which one is the better/more stable one?   nvidia 173 or nvidia 177 ? (in ubuntu hardware driver installer tool)
[22:53] <tomkirby> hi
[22:53] <Berzerker> is it possible to stick a program to a certain workspace?
[22:53] <o0Chris0o> it should say the recommended one spanther
[22:54] <spanther> o0Chris0o: yes but the recommended one is the newer one. but i don't know if the newer maybe has more bugs left ^^
[22:54] <tomkirby> anyone know how to turn off the tooltips that appear in openoffice 2 and 3 showing the current document section whenever you scroll with the mouse wheel or mouse-over the document?
[22:54] <unko> LjL, never mind i brought my food upstairs. ok well im gonna try to get this working while eating :p so ill tell you what happens when i install it.
[22:54] <waiwaine> bonsoir
[22:54] <rww> !fr | waiwaine
[22:54] <o0Chris0o> spanther: Try it, if something doesn't go right, you can always go to the later one :) or read up about it, I'm not entirely sure
[22:55] <automatix> spanther: i use the 177 for my 6200 nvidia... it runs without problems
[22:55] <spanther> o0Chris0o: ok :)
[22:55] <spanther> automatix: thx ^^
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> o0Chris0o: looks reaaly unsupported :(
[22:56] <o0Chris0o> ActionParsnip: yeah I was afraid so...
[22:56] <Mike94287> I have an old computer that has about 184 mb of RAM. It was running too slowly under Windows XP so I decided to remove it and get Ubuntu. Ubuntu has been a little faster but it's still very slow. I'm considering putting xubuntu on it however I'm not sure if that would make a major difference. I was thinking about getting rid of Ubuntu and putting Debian on the computer with either gnome or xfce, would that be enough to make the
[22:56] <o0Chris0o> what if I make a network printer from a xp machine?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> automatix: i have the same video card, its awesome
[22:56] <spanther> need a restart now xD
[22:56] <codeuser> Mike94287: Xubuntu would be faster
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> o0Chris0o: worth a try, not sure
[22:56] <automatix> ActionParsnip: yes :)
[22:56] <spanther> cu later :) thx for help
[22:57] <codeuser> Mike94287: Xubuntu = Ubuntu + Xfce
[22:57] <o0Chris0o> ActionParsnip, alright thanks for the help ;)
[22:57] <Laundry> is there any way i can browse the drivers that are on the cd
[22:57] <codeuser> Laundry: they are in the kernel, not like windows
[22:57] <Klaz168> Mike94287, xubuntu will be faster, xfce is light enought to run smooth on 184mb of RAM
[22:57] <Laundry> codeuser: where would i be able to look at a list
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> codeuser: i'm using lxde, its killer
[22:58] <|chiz|> is there something better than totem for watching dvds?
[22:58] <Laundry> and get files of the drivers added to the kernel
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> |chiz|: define better
[22:58] <Mike94287> Klaz168: Okay I'll try it out.
[22:58] <Laundry> (assuming this is possible)
[22:58] <codeuser> Laundry: i do not know where you would find a list... just use the livecd to test what you need to test.
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> |chiz|: try a few apps, see which you like
[22:58] <codeuser> ActionParsnip: ok, lol
[22:58] <|chiz|> ActionParsnip: well totem seems to freeze up on me alot
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> !players | |chiz|
[22:58] <Laundry> the livecd has a bug for me
[22:59] <dragoncorp> can anyone point me to some documentation to on how to setup Ubuntu 8.10 VPS webserver
[22:59] <Laundry> it's detecting my card reader as a bluetooth adapter
[22:59] <euxneks> my window controls are on the wrong side. I'm using metacity. How do I switch them back?
[22:59] <Laundry> and it's actually built in to my computer, so i can't just unplug it
[22:59] <DaDa|Urka> why freezes "networking restart" because of NFS, altough i gave fstab the "hard" nfs option?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> |chiz|: make sure you have codecs instaled and have installed video drivers
[23:00] <spanther> yay i got 3D :D
[23:00] <spanther> never was so easy to install drivers heh
[23:00] <Berzerker> how do I start compiz after I install it
[23:01] <dragoncorp> anyone help me out with setting up a ubuntu 8.10 vps?
[23:01] <codeuser> Berzerker: try getting the compiz fusion icon, it lets you swap between compiz and metacity
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> Berzerker: (cool band) compiz --replace &
[23:01] <spanther> uh is there a safe way to enable vertical sync at desktop so that windows don't look cutted on the sides while moving them? :)
[23:01] <drcrazy> whats this <IP_ADDRESS> ip for ?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> Berzerker: check the new album by berzerker, its awesome
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> drcrazy: localhost
[23:01] <drcrazy> and <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[23:01] <Berzerker> and how do Iset it back?
[23:02] <codeuser> Berzerker: did you read mine?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> drcrazy: same
[23:02] <jumar> install fusion-icon, berzerk
[23:02] <jumar> er
[23:02] <drcrazy> ActionParsnip: weird
[23:02] <codeuser> Berzerker: from command line do 'metacity --replace &' but still, use the fusion icon
[23:02] <Berzerker> well I don't need it, since it's not working
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> drcrazy: why?
[23:02] <Berzerker> so I just wanted to set it backfor good
[23:02] <drcrazy> ActionParsnip: don't take my words as is :)
[23:02] <drcrazy> hehe
[23:02] <jumar> why, whats the problem Berzerker?
[23:02] <Berzerker> vc isn't good enough
[23:03] <jumar> oh, then try other compositing, metacirty has one
[23:03] <magcius> What version of libtorrent is in the repositories?
[23:03] <jumar> its more simple, you can check it at gcon f-editor
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> !info libtorent
[23:04] <codeuser> !info libttorrent
[23:04] <magcius> !info libtorrent
[23:04] <codeuser> !info libtorrent
[23:04] <osmosis> ActionParsnip: I was able to get a .deb directly from adobes site.
[23:04] <anabolix> hello guys, id really appreciate some help on finding a device in order to mount it... im trying to mount my cell phone
[23:04] <setuid> How do I uninstall the (broken) IcedTea Java plugin that seems to come with Firefox on Ubuntu?
[23:04] <drcrazy> ActionParsnip: I just reinstalled my OS and i had in my /etc/hosts <IP_ADDRESS>       localhost \n <IP_ADDRESS>      machineName.    This caused my Apache2 to tell me that it couldn't resolve the qualitified domain name. I changed the /etc/hosts to contain on the first line: <IP_ADDRESS>       localhost.localdomain   localhost       machineName   (and haven't changed the second line) and all works fine now :O/
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> osmosis: i'd use the tar.gz personally
[23:05] <drcrazy> im just perplexed
[23:05] <setuid> anabolix, Wht phone?
[23:05] <Berzerker> well it's fine, I wasn't expecting it to work
[23:05] <Berzerker> but now that I have people's attention, is there a way to stick an app to a certain workspace?
[23:05] <codeuser> Berzerker: Not if you mean have it always start there.
[23:06] <drcrazy> ActionParsnip: I guess it works cuz now it finds <IP_ADDRESS> as my machineName (which is my /etc/hostname)
[23:06] <anabolix> setuid, its a sony ericsson c901 i think or c900
[23:06] <Am1GO> ооо
[23:06] <Am1GO> бубунтоеды
[23:06] <setuid> anabolix, And it has a USB host controller?
[23:06] <drcrazy> ActionParsnip: can you tell me if I missed something in that /etc/hosts file ?
[23:06] <Berzerker> well yes, that's how I mean, similar to spaces on os x
[23:06] <anabolix> setuid, if you mean its connected to my laptop through usb port then yes
[23:07] <codeuser> Berzerker: AFAIK there is no way
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> drcrazy: can you pastebin the file
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> !paste | drcrazy
[23:07] <BCM43> could someone that has an account please fix the command sudo gedit /etc/modules to gksudo gedit? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne#Install%20Ubuntu%20Hardy%20Heron%20(8.04.1)%20on%20the%20Acer%20Aspire%20One
[23:07] <drcrazy> sure
[23:07] <Berzerker> kk thank you
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> BCM43: dont use sudo gedit
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> BCM43: use gksudo gedit
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> BCM43: sudo gedit doesnt setup the environment correctly
[23:08] <BCM43> ActionParsnip: did you noe tread my post?
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> BCM43: just pointing out the first issue with your command
[23:08] <BCM43> ActionParsnip: i want someone to fix it, it isays sudo gedit
[23:08] <chiliblue> ActionParsnip: what determines which headers something is compiled with?
[23:08] <Laundry> is there any way i could download a driver that ubuntu uses for use with another os
[23:09] <Laundry> and if so, where
[23:09] <BCM43> ActionParsnip: That is why i am trying to get someone to fix it
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> BCM43: it doesnt setup the environment correctly
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> BCM43: now im reading
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> BCM43: i wish people would stop using sudo gedit, you are right
[23:10] <chiliblue> just tryingt o compile in v4l and something ain't right
[23:10] <codeuser> ActionParsnip: what's wrong with sudo gedit?
[23:10] <stealth-> anyone know if dell latitudes will boot from usb?
[23:10] <anabolix> setuid, actually its the c902
[23:10] <codeuser> ActionParsnip: no newb knows how to use the text based editors.
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> codeuser: the gui has an environment, the cli has an environment
[23:10] <BCM43> ActionParsnip: no problem. Out of curiosity, what if you are in su.
[23:10] <drcrazy> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/129560/
[23:10] <codeuser> ActionParsnip: (i repeat) no newb knows how to use the text based editors.
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> BCM43: you ar ein nwronsville, use sudo -i
[23:11] <BCM43> ActionParsnip: what?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> codeuser: the cli environment is used with sudo, graphical apps like gedit need gksudo as the environment is setup for the gui using that app
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> BCM43: su is not advised as again, it doesnt setup the environment, sudo -i    is advised (-i = interacttive)
[23:12] <sebsebseb>
[23:12] <BCM43> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks, i guess i should add myself to the sudoers file
[23:12] <codeuser> ActionParsnip: ok... but in all my experience sudo has never caused anything to happen that gksudo would prevent.
[23:12] <chiliblue> codeuser: nano or pico are very useable if you come from a windows background, you don't have to dive in at the deep end with vi.
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> codeuser: if you use sudo gedit (for example) you can damage ownership and accesibilty to a file
[23:12] <codeuser> chiliblue: true, but windows users have terminal-phobia
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> codeuser: its there for a reason
[23:13] <chiliblue> I love terminals
[23:13] <codeuser> ActionParsnip: its not inconceivable...
[23:13] <sebsebseb> Gedit and Kate can be used instead of a terminal text editor!
[23:13] <codeuser> ActionParsnip: but gksudo is so that when you launch Services (etc) you get a graphical way to enter your password
[23:14] <anabolix> naming scheme for hardware when looking at /dev is abit confusing for me... anyone here can shed some light on this? and more specifically how do i find my sony ericsson mobile phone in /dev so i can mount it?
[23:14] <coreyman1> Anyone know what im doing wrong? i type and get
[23:14] <coreyman1> smbclient //MANSHACKS/DOWNLOADS/
[23:14] <coreyman1> Connection to MANSHACKS failed (Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> codeuser: from the command: man gksu: gksu  is  a frontend to su and gksudo is a frontend to sudo.  Their primary purpose is to run graphical commands that need root without the need to
[23:14] <ActionParsnip>        run an X terminal emulator and using su directly.
[23:14] <D3RGPS31> how can i set squid to not make logs when localhost uses it
[23:14] <LogicFan> anyone have any idea why killing ALSA is restarting it properly?  am i missing some cmd?  here's what i have: 1. sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload 2. sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[23:14] <LogicFan> is=isn't
[23:14] <drcrazy> ActionParsnip: can you let me know if something isn't well done in my changes : http://paste.ubuntu.com/129560/ :)
[23:14] <coreyman1> Here is my smb.conf http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m330b8db7
[23:14] <LogicFan> it seems that ALSA dies when my laptop lid is closed and the auto poweroff for the screen kicks in
[23:15] <codeuser> LogicFan: what kind of laptop
[23:15] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: if use  sudo gedit   can dmage ownership and accesiblity to a file????????  what?????
[23:15] <Ledrug> anabolix: try /dev/sda*?
[23:15] <LogicFan> dell xps m1330
[23:15] <LogicFan> codeuser, i've been reading on google and ubuntuforums, but most of the problems seem to happen with nvidia video chips.  i have a intel x3100 video chip
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> drcrazy: some apps use <IP_ADDRESS> as localhost, some use <IP_ADDRESS> i have an identical hosts file. makes stuffgo faster too (some website advised it)
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> LogicFan: look in /etc/init.d
[23:16] <bujar> im trying to install cnet ( network simulater) the "make" command worked well, but now the "sudo make install" is showing this error:
[23:16] <bujar> `/cslinux/bin/cnet
[23:16] <codeuser> LogicFan: ok, i thought you might have been using an aspire one based on that introductory question, i have no info to help you with that google doesn't have.
[23:16] <LogicFan> what am i looking for ActionParsnip?
[23:17] <drcrazy> ActionParsnip: ok, so, specifying that "machineName" is available on both IP is ok ? (I guess it would fallback always on the first one, right ?)
[23:17] <D3RGPS31> how can i set squid to not log connections from certain IPs :D
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> LogicFan: if you run  sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[23:17] <bujar> `/cslinux/bin/cnet
[23:17] <slashzul> how can u tell what packages are installed cli ?
[23:17] <bujar> `/cslinux/bin/cnet
[23:17] <bujar> cp: cannot create regular file `/cslinux/bin/cnet': No such file or directory
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> drcrazy: sure, 127.x.x.x is a local device
[23:17] <LogicFan> ActionParsnip, yeah, that's the command i'm using, but it doesn't get sound back.  it restarts alsa normally though
[23:17] <AlexPersimmon> Hey guys, why so old pidgin in the repo?
[23:17] <AlexPersimmon> is there a .deb file somewhere?
[23:17] <drcrazy> ActionParsnip: can I remove the <IP_ADDRESS> entry ?
[23:17] <AlexPersimmon> for new one that is
[23:17] <ScottG489> How do I enable more repositories from the terminal? Is there a config file I need to edit?
[23:18] <slashzul> how can u tell what packages are installed cli ?
[23:18] <sebsebseb> AlexPersimmon: ,because programs in Ubuntu repo only get security updates, some programs you can get a ppa though for later versiosn
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> slashzul: it doesnt matter how they are installed, you can list them with:  history | grep install
[23:18] <sebsebseb> AlexPersimmon: newer versions of programs in each release of Ubuntu
[23:18] <_Linuxx_> scottG489: /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:18] <drcrazy> ActionParsnip: safely that is :)
[23:18] <AlexPersimmon> Scott yes google "sources.list"
[23:18] <AlexPersimmon> ok thanks
[23:18] <AlexPersimmon> so is there ppa for pidgin?
[23:18] <slashzul> ActionParsnip: is there a command to view currently installed packages?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> drcrazy: comment it out, if it works ok leave it, if not then uncomment
[23:19] <AlexPersimmon> i mean its kind of repo right? like for skype
[23:19] <_Linuxx_> slashzul: dpkg -l
[23:19] <sebsebseb> AlexPersimmon: there might be, and you could install a later version yourself
[23:19] <sebsebseb> !ppa
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> slashzul: dpkg -l |  ess
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> oop
[23:19] <drcrazy> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> slashzul: dpkg -l | less
[23:19] <slashzul> ActionParsnip: thats it!
[23:19] <D3RGPS31> how can i set squid to not log connections from certain IPs >.>
[23:19] <AlexPersimmon> I know just dont wanna bother to compile, there might be a deb somewhere so...
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> drcrazy: deleting stuff is a bit OTT, commenting is easier so you can roll back
[23:20] <AlexPersimmon> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ppa/ubuntu hardy main if anyone cares
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> D3RGPS31: log everything then grep the file to view it
[23:20] <D3RGPS31> ActionParsnip: i didn't ask for a way around >.>
[23:20] <sebsebseb> AlexPersimmon: your on hardy?
[23:21] <D3RGPS31> ActionParsnip: but that seem easier than waiting
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> D3RGPS31: i like easy
[23:21] <AlexPersimmon> no, but the link seems to be dist-idependent so will have to live with that
[23:21] <heatmzzr> tring to install nexuiz-242.zip .. would anyone know how to install this in ubuntu?
[23:21] <vini> putz... alguem usa flash10 dboa?
[23:22] <vini> to tempao tentando fazelo funcionar com firefox
[23:22] <AlexPersimmon> editing for intrepid didn`t work so that`s my answer, thx for ppa suggestion
[23:22] <vini> coloquei ele na pasta plugins... e nada.. de aparecer instalado
[23:22] <AlexPersimmon> well it didnt help :(
[23:23] <AlexPersimmon> synaptic doesn`t see pidgin packages from ppa
[23:23] <chiliblue> oh well think its time I rolled my own kernel, think it is the route of my v4l issues
[23:24] <vini> join #ubuntu-br
[23:24] <noumaan> i have forgotten my nickserv password
[23:24] <noumaan> how do i get it back?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> D3RGPS31: ask my girlfriend. BA-DUM!
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> !password
[23:25] <D3RGPS31> ActionParsnip: ?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> D3RGPS31: easy......
[23:25] <Nytrix> hi do i always need to keep my usb key plugged in in order to use ubuntu? usb key holds /boot and bootloader.
[23:25] <xallan2> j mirror
[23:25] <xallan2> join #mirror
[23:25] <noumaan> ActionParsnip: no I have forgotten my IRC ubuntu nickserv password
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> Nytrix: have you tried to sudo umount the partition name
[23:27] <kadii> how to config lsb-core / lsb-cxx  when i install or remove program give me error lsb-cxx  not config
[23:27] <tesseracter> hi! i had a problem with stuck sound when a game crashed, so i did: sudo killall pulseaudio and the BLE BLE BLE BLE stopped, but now, when i try to play music, all i get is pops and clicks instead of music. so close, and yet so far.
[23:27] <Nytrix> ActionParsnip, everyone is in 1 HD right now, i am going to do a clean install and put /boot and bootloader in usb key
[23:28] <Nytrix> im guess i do need to keep usb plugged in since it hold the kernel?
[23:28] <kadii> when i try to config give me error /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: lsb-cxx is broken or not fully installed
[23:28] <Operator> can some people test free linux online game ? http://www.l2wolf.com/en/linux_download.jsp , i donno if its working or not let me know my mail is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:29] <verma_ii> hmmm .. weird, when I stress test my CPU, how come one of the cores reaches the temperature of 115C while the other one stays at 46C?
[23:29] <kadii> how to fix Broken?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> noumaan: http://www.scribd.com/doc/2892558/freenode-irc-chanserv-help
[23:29] <FirstSgt> how can i stop ubuntu from disconnecting my ssh connections to it?
[23:30] <FirstSgt> after 10 or 15 mins
[23:30] <FirstSgt> its worse than a laggy screen saver, i have to log back in, switch users and debate which vim files need recovered ,and which do not
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> FirstSgt: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/open-ssh-server-connection-drops-out-after-few-or-n-minutes-of-inactivity.html
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> FirstSgt: i'd suggest you use gksudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:31] <lstarnes> ActionParsnip: that document about freenode's chanserv is out of date and chanserv does not manage nicknames
[23:31] <FirstSgt> thank you
[23:32] <noumaan> How do I minimize transmission to notification area?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> lstarnes: its all i got
[23:32] <rww> ActionParsnip: It'd probably be better to redirect people to #freenode if they have nickserv questions.
[23:32] <FirstSgt> ActionParsnip: that worked well... i thank you.
[23:32] <lstarnes> ActionParsnip: there is #freenode for queries related to freenode
[23:32] <noumaan> in lenny transmission minimizes to notification area and i remember it did the same in older versions of ubuntu
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> noumaan: could head to #freenode to see what you can do
[23:32] <slashzul> how can I replace my old window manager with a new one XPDE?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> FirstSgt: np man
[23:33] <lstarnes> ActionParsnip: he already got it taken care of there
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> lstarnes: cool
[23:33] <noumaan> ActionParsnip:  freenode?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> !find xpde
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> noumaan: /j #freenode
[23:33] <noumaan> I am asking a question about transmission bittorrent client in ubuntu
[23:33] <slashzul> how can I replace my old window manager with a new one XPDE?
[23:33] <_jet__> hi
[23:33] <FirstSgt> ActionParsnip: so if i use 0 that would be no timeout?
[23:34] <noumaan> my previous question about password is resolved
[23:34] <_jet__> I would need some help to understand why each time I boot my ubuntu, iptables is configured to drop all packets
[23:34] <Guest33687> hello , i have new hard disk , so  i installed ubuntu then windows Xp and reinstalled Grub after installing windows but windows xp dont appear on boot menu
[23:34] <Rabbitbunny> dual booting is as simple as I presume right? install windows, install ubuntu, grub makes magic. done. eh?
[23:34] <sebsebseb> slashzul: ok what is your current window manager?
[23:34] <Guest2517> hello
[23:34] <DIFH-iceroot> Rabbitbunny: yes
[23:34] <sebsebseb> slashzul: just install the other window manager, and select it from the log in screen
[23:34] <rww> Rabbitbunny: that's how it worked for me :)
[23:34] <Rabbitbunny> DIFH-iceroot: Thanks.
[23:34] <FirstSgt> and 0 for max clients to make unlimited clients
[23:34] <tacosarecool> I'm just wondering
[23:34] <sebsebseb> Guest2517: hello
[23:34] <vonsp> if i manualy deleted some directories. /etc/gconf for example, how can i know which packages i should reinstall and how it may be done better?
[23:35] <tacosarecool> Is it me or is tao the best for burning
[23:35] <Rabbitbunny> rww: Thanks.
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> slashzul: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xpde
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> FirstSgt: try it, see what happens
[23:35] <rww> Rabbitbunny: make sure you install Windows before Linux. It's much easier that way.
[23:35] <tacosarecool> if your on vista theres special steps
[23:35] <Rabbitbunny> rww: I guessed such, ubuntu tends to be good at working around windows, but not the other way around.
[23:35] <chupy> i need help i have a inservible linux partition that its still there i want to recover information... i am on a live cd and i have and extraible hd can you recommend me a program to recover my information????
[23:35] <Guest33687> hello , i have new hard disk , so  i installed ubuntu then windows Xp and reinstalled Grub after installing windows but windows xp dont appear on boot menu . any solution 4 that ?
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Rabbitbunny: make sure you partition windows to leave unpartitioned space
[23:35] <rww> Rabbitbunny: exactly. It's possible to do it the other way around, but you have to mess with GRUB quite a bit.
[23:36] <noumaan> How do I minimize transmission bittorrent client to notification area?
[23:36] <Rabbitbunny> aye, windows to 100gb, linux to 120gb, swap the rest.
[23:36] <Droopsta915> Does anyone know if a static shock can damage a flash drive? I was going plug it in the usb port and I saw a little static charge, now my flash drive light is on and doesnt mount! I need it for my final exam tonight
[23:36] <sebsebseb> Guest33687: ok you can add Windows XP to the menu
[23:36] <Guest33687> sebsebseb: how can i do that ?
[23:36] <sebsebseb> Guest33687: by editing sources list
[23:36] <sebsebseb> !Grub
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> Rabbitbunny: thats fie, just that when you install xp, dont take the defaults, make sure you leave unpartitioned space
[23:37] <slashzul> thanks Actionparsnip!
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Guest33687: I mean menu.list or menu.lst
[23:37] <Rabbitbunny> ActionParsnip: kk, Thanks.
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> slashzul: np bro
[23:37] <tacosarecool> why are my discs failing to burn?
[23:37] <sebsebseb> tacosarecool: did you MD5 sum the ISO?
[23:37] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[23:37] <chupy> sebsebseb how? and what software?
[23:37] <tacosarecool> no
[23:37] <sebsebseb> chupy: what????
[23:37] <tacosarecool> I'm burning mp3s to a cd using gnomebaker
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> tacosarecool: md5 check the iso if its an ubuntu cd and burn as slowly as you can
[23:38] <Guest33687> sebsebseb: okay , i will take alook at that
[23:38] <tacosarecool> should I use tao
[23:38] <Rabbitbunny> tacosarecool: some cars won't play burns.
[23:38] <chupy> i am the other gues... sebsebseb
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> tacosarecool: try a few apps, see which is successful
[23:38] <tacosarecool> it converts to cd audios
[23:38] <tacosarecool> anyway
[23:38] <sebsebseb> chupy: what was I helping you with now I am confused, and you name changed?
[23:38] <tacosarecool> I've always had luck with tao i'll try that
[23:38] <chupy> with my hd....
[23:39] <sebsebseb> chupy: no does not seem that I was, what's your issue?
[23:39] <chupy> sorry i got confused lol
[23:39] <Laundry> is there any way i can download all the nic-usb drivers that were used in the kernel
[23:39] <Laundry> and if so, where
[23:41] <chupy> i need help i have a inservible linux partition that its still there i want to recover information... i am on a live cd and i have and extraible hd can you recommend me a program to recover my information????
[23:41] <sebsebseb> chupy: what do you mean inservible?
[23:42] <jtaji> Laundry: the kernel source code... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=linux-source
[23:42] <sebsebseb> chupy: if the partition is deleted and you have Windows, I know of a program that will help.   hummmmm and there's a Linux way to get data off deleted partitions to, not sure what though
[23:43] <kadii> how to fix Broken Packages ?
[23:43] <sebsebseb> !broken
[23:43] <sebsebseb> damn
[23:43] <sebsebseb> kadii: does it tell you to run a command to fix broken packages?
[23:43] <chupy> sebsebseb it dont has a format like ext3... i arruinate it...trying to pass it to ext4...
[23:43] <sebsebseb> chupy: which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[23:44] <kadii> everytime i install or remove something give me error Package lsb-core is not configured yet. all lsb... not config
[23:44] <sebsebseb> chupy: and Ext4 is a bit buggy still
[23:44] <shiloh7> ewwwwww
[23:44] <Droopsta915> sebsebseb:U lost your grub bootloader?
[23:44] <chupy> in live cd or in the hd loosed?
[23:44] <kadii> sebsebseb, when i try like sudo dpkg-reconfigure lsb-graphics
[23:44] <kadii>  give me
[23:44] <kadii> sebsebseb,  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: lsb is broken or not fully installed
[23:44] <sebsebseb> Droopsta915: no,  that was someone else that had Grub issues
[23:45] <chupy> sebsebseb in live cd juanty... and in the other 8.10
[23:45] <sebsebseb> chupy: that's what I thought
[23:45] <sebsebseb> chupy: how new are you to Ubuntu?
[23:45] <Droopsta915> sebsebseb:ok
[23:45] <Droopsta915> :)
[23:45] <tacosarecool> it's burning
[23:45] <tacosarecool> Tao always works for me ..)
[23:46] <usr13> kadii: apt-get update
[23:46] <usr13> kadii: apt-get -f
[23:46] <kadii> usr13,  i did
[23:46] <kadii> and i did apt-get -f install
[23:46] <usr13> o
[23:46] <kadii> and apt-get upgrade the same :(
[23:46] <snowveil> ok so my mouse suddenly, after rebooting with a new hdd installed, decided to go on crack
[23:47] <snowveil> the sensitivity is JACKED way up, and every click is a double or triple click
[23:47] <tacosarecool> what's sao?
[23:47] <kadii> usr13, check what it give : http://pastebin.com/m5ee3558
[23:47] <sebsebseb> chupy: Jaunty is still in alpha, and you should leave it alone untill the final release,  unless  your a pretty experienced Ubuntu user
[23:47] <tacosarecool> !sao
[23:47] <tacosarecool> !tao
[23:48] <Titan8990> tacosarecool, try wikipedia
[23:48] <bravo> hola
[23:48] <sebsebseb> !es | bravo
[23:48] <chupy> sebsebseb yes i know i have like 4 years... but it supports ext4... i want to recover my information of the loosed hd
[23:48] <Titan8990> tacosarecool, my wiki results looks like session at once disk writting
[23:49] <sebsebseb> chupy: ok this is not suppourt for Jaunty you can get that in here:  #ubuntu+1
[23:49] <kadii> usr13,  any clue ?
[23:49] <chupy> i dont want support for juanty.... i want a software recommendation to recover my information sebsebseb
[23:49] <sebsebseb> chupy: have you got Windows on same computer?
[23:50] <tacosarecool> completed
[23:50] <chupy> sebsebseb no...
[23:50] <usr13> kadii: 8.10?
[23:50] <sebsebseb> chupy: ok well theres a Windows program that should do it,  as for commands  for  Linux Live CD,  uhmmmmm not sure about those
[23:51] <kadii> usr13, yup
[23:51] <sebsebseb> chupy: for data recovery
[23:51] <snowveil> does anyone know why a mouse would suddenly start double and triple clicking after a reboot?  also the sensitivity is WAY up
[23:51] <sebsebseb> !mouse
[23:51] <usr13> kadii: Is that what lsb_release -a  says?
[23:52] <Titan8990> chupy, not sure about data recovery programs, but if you need the ability to read ext4, only 2.6.28 kernels do, the 9.04 live CD is the only liveCD i know of with support for it
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> !recover
[23:52] <kadii> usr13,  Description:	Ubuntu 8.04.2
[23:52] <kadii>  Release:	8.04
[23:52] <Titan8990> chupy, but there are plenty of distros you can compile a vanilla kernel on, although the more you write to that disk the less likely you will recover your data
[23:52] <Titan8990> chupy, and this is where I stress regular backups
[23:53] <polter> hey I'm having some issues. I tried using unetbootin to install Ubuntu from /... well.. that didn't work since Ubuntu marked my / drive as cdrom.. and now I can't get away from that when using the CD.. that is. I can't partition the drive since my / drive is marked as CD
[23:53] <sebsebseb> snowveil: you can change mouse settings in Ubuntu
[23:53] <tacosarecool> darn it I wanted to burn the lyrics to the cd
[23:53] <Titan8990> polter, from a live cd, / is the cdrom....
[23:53] <usr13> kadii: did you try  apt-get autoremove   ?
[23:54] <Titan8990> polter, maybe you were wanting to chroot?
[23:54] <snowveil> system/preferences/mouse for some reason shuts down on me before pulling the window up
[23:54] <Titan8990> !chroot | ubottu
[23:54] <kadii> usr13, ya the same the same error
[23:54] <polter> Titan8990: no you don't understand.. my harddrive with the / partition is marked as cdrom.. the partitioner can't see it
[23:54] <snowveil> is there a command I can use to launch it via xterm?
[23:54] <Titan8990> polter, partition using fdisk
[23:54] <tacosarecool> !lyricburning
[23:54] <sebsebseb> snowveil: I expect mouse settings can be changed with commands, but in that case I have no idea what those commands are
[23:55] <usr13> kadii: dpkg-reconfigure -plow
[23:55] <polter> now I can't unmount it..
[23:55] <Titan8990> polter, you shouldn't have the ability to umount /
[23:55] <kadii> usr13,  please specify a package to reconfigure
[23:55] <Titan8990> polter, ever
[23:55] <kadii> give me
[23:55] <usr13> kadii: to the offending package(s)
[23:55] <polter> Titan8990: that might be true, but I have to solve this somehow
[23:55] <Titan8990> polter, I think you are looking at things wrong
[23:56] <racecar56> i need g++-3.4 but it dosen't exist, what do i do?
[23:56] <Titan8990> polter, pastebin the results of fdisk -l
[23:56] <chupy> Titan8990 i can mounted.... it dont have an extension
[23:56] <shaoling> salut
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[23:56] <Titan8990> chupy, extension?
[23:56] <polter> Titan8990: cannot open /dev/sda
[23:56] <tacosarecool> how do I burn the lyrics?
[23:56] <racecar56> !gcc
[23:56] <racecar56> !g++
[23:56] <kadii> usr13, i try dpkg-reconfigure exmin4
[23:56] <kadii>  give me not install when i install it give error
[23:56] <usr13> polter: sudo
[23:56] <Titan8990> polter, that was the results of fdisk -l?
[23:56] <racecar56> !g++-3.4
[23:56] <tacosarecool> I'll just songbird
[23:57] <racecar56> !g++3
[23:57] <stefan_can> !apache
[23:57] <Titan8990> usr13, thanks, I forget
[23:57] <Canya> oftc
[23:57] <polter> Titan8990: http://pastebin.com/m1356c868
[23:57] <racecar56> i need g++ 3.4.x, but it dosen't exist in the repos, it says it's outdated (but i need it for backwards compatibility) what do i do?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> !info g++
[23:58] <chupy> it dont have like ntfs ext3 2 etc....
[23:58] <polter> /dev/sda mounted on /cdrom it says
[23:58] <usr13> kadii: What was the last successful usage of dpkg or apt-get to install ?
[23:58] <racecar56> !info g++-3.4
[23:58] <Titan8990> polter, mount point means nothing
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> chupy: try: sudo parted -l
[23:58] <racecar56> waht the
[23:58] <racecar56> !info g++-3.4 hardy
[23:58] <kadii> usr13, i was install Sendmail
[23:58] <Titan8990> polter, pastebin results of: sudo mount
[23:58] <racecar56> aha.... i see they retired it in 8.10... >:(
[23:58] <usr13> kadii: In other words, what brought us into this situation?
[23:58] <polter> well why is my /dev/sda mounted on cdrom?
[23:59] <Titan8990> polter, /cdrom is a directory, it means nothing....
[23:59] <polter> Titan8990: well apparantely it does because it's busy all the time and can't be unmounted
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> polter: you can mount any block device anyplace (except in /proc)
[23:59] <Titan8990> polter, but /dev/sda can't be mounted, its partitions have to be mounted eg /dev/sda1, so show me the results of sudo mount
[23:59] <bonez451> help., I moved an ubuntu disk to a newer machine.. and I want to boot it but all I get at boot up is this > "Verifying DMI Pool Data"  and nothing else.. what do I need to do to get it booted and recognized.. it's a SATA drive


[12:46] <crimsun> BenC: excellent, thanks.
[12:46] <crimsun> tumbleweed: I'm aware of certain atiixp issues, but I haven't had time to drill down any changesets due to work.
[06:19] <tepsipakki> hmm, I don't see the new linux-source-2.6.15 in dapper-proposed
[06:20] <kylem> they need to be approved first.
[06:20] <tepsipakki> oh, ok
[08:12] <tumbleweed> crimsun: thanks
[02:21] <zul> morning
[03:10] <zul> how is it?
[03:13] <BenC> it's pretty fast, but not with stock kvm in 2.6.20
[03:14] <BenC> If the new patches don't make 2.6.20, I'll patch it up though
[03:14] <BenC> we also need a new kvm package...Debian's is too old
[03:16] <zul> i can possibly do one this weekend
[03:17] <thom> gar, who thought calling it kvm was a good idea. KVM means something else entirely
[03:17] <BenC> Kernel Virtual Machine :)
[03:17] <Mithrandir> thom: somebody who thought they were funny, probably.
[03:18] <BenC> or Keep Viable Monkeys
[03:18] <zul> keep viably mamories?
[03:18] <zul> er...mamories
[03:18] <zul> i need more coke..
[03:23] <zul> muhahah...its alive
[03:23] <zul> xen-headers-2.6.19-1_2.6.19-1_i386.deb
[03:23] <zul> xen-doc-2.6.19_2.6.19-1_all.deb
[03:23] <zul> xen-image-2.6.19-1-generic_2.6.19-1_i386.deb
[03:23] <zul> xen-image-2.6.19-1-server_2.6.19-1_i386.deb
[04:11] <fbenites> hi!
[04:11] <fbenites> i am trying to debug a usb driver, somebody have any hints?
[04:17] <fabbione> BenC: ping?
[04:17] <BenC> fabbione: pong
[04:17] <fabbione> hey dude
[04:17] <fabbione> BenC: do you mind to slam the webcam i gave to you in the bag to Oslo?
[04:17] <BenC> sure
[04:17] <fabbione> BenC: if we can't get it working i will give it to my wife on her m$ box
[04:17] <fabbione> so i can see my son when away
[04:19] <zul> awwww.//
[04:19] <fabbione> yo zul
[04:20] <zul> hey fabbione how is it going?
[04:20] <fabbione> not too bad and you?
[04:20] <zul> good no complaints
[04:21] <fbenites> fabbione: which cam chip?
[04:22] <fabbione> fbenites: it's a quickcam but the chip is not supported by the stock kernel driver and the external one is OOPS'orama
[04:22] <fabbione> i don't recall the details.. it's a few months that i gave it to ben with no luck
[04:22] <fbenites> chip which? Pixart Img. ones?
[04:22] <fabbione> i don't recall the details
[04:22] <fbenites> i am one that one... someone wrote a driver, but it can just get a picture and no v4l...
[04:23] <fbenites> so i am trying to port it to spca50x but no success... get some strange errors
[04:23] <fabbione> fbenites: i could get video out of it, but it was a pain
[04:23] <zul> i still need a netwinder ;)
[04:25] <fbenites> fabbione: v4l and mencoder is a good combination
[04:25] <fabbione> fbenites: it was a kernel problem.. userland was fine
[04:25] <fabbione> the usb part of that driver was crap
[04:25] <fbenites>  ...
[04:26] <fabbione> qc-usb-messenger-0.8.tar.gz
[04:26] <fabbione> found it
[04:26] <fabbione> this is was the external driver
[04:28] <fabbione>         { USB_DEVICE(0x046D, 0x08F0) },         /* QuickCam Messenger */
[04:28] <fabbione> usb uuid
[04:30] <fbenites> ok, there is no spca thing for it...
[04:31] <fabbione> fbenites: with all respect.. i wasn't lying
[04:31] <fbenites> ?
[04:31] <fbenites> i just check the gspa_core.c file, didnt found the device
[04:48] <thom> gar, xen in edgy is causing kernel panics :(
[04:49] <zul> thom: did you follow the instructions in the wiki?
[04:50] <thom> yup
[04:50] <zul> did you install the xen-ioemu?
[04:50] <thom> and this is the first domu, so it's not #71348
[04:51] <thom> pretty sure i did, yeah
[04:51] <zul> ah..
[04:52] <thom> glad i have ilo on the box ;-)
[04:54] <thom> yes, i do have xen-ioemu
[04:58] <thom> right, can i make xen not autoreboot so i can actually _read_ the oops?
[04:59] <zul> add noreboot
[05:00] <zul> 2.6.16 or 2.6.17?
[05:02] <thom> using the 2.6.17-6-server-xen0 kernel
[05:02] <thom> gonna try the 2.6.16 from xensource in a sec
[05:08] <BenC> shitty part about kvm is that it doesn't yet emulate 32-bit real mode calls (like what bootsplash uses), so the liveCD aborts
[05:09] <pmjdebruijn> BenC, that's nasty
[05:09] <BenC> need that fixed
[05:09] <kylem> hmm.
[05:09] <BenC> alternate CD install went fine
[05:30] <zul> *sigh* dapper doesnt recognize the ethernet card
[06:40] <ivoks> anyone tried kvm?
[06:40] <ivoks> i get soft lockups on modprobe :/
[06:44] <zul> talk to BenC
[06:45] <ivoks> i think problem is same as with xen
[06:45] <kylem> he's on the phone, he mentioned you need a newer userspace kvm have you tried that?
[06:45] <ivoks> no, it crashes on loading module, so i didn't get to the userspace :)
[06:45] <kylem> ah.
[06:45] <zul> does your cpu support kvm?
[06:46] <kylem> is there a bug yet, i can look at it
[06:46] <ivoks> yes
[06:46] <ivoks> i will report it, as soon as i grab debug info
[06:46] <kylem> thnx.
[06:47] <ivoks> well, i'm going to crash it now, so brb :)
[07:01] <ivoks> eh, only way i could grab it is with camera, it's 1 minute movie :)
[07:19] <cjwatson> BenC: FYI, I have one of mjg59's Intel Macs now, so will start beating on it soon
[07:19] <BenC> cjwatson: excellent
[07:19] <cjwatson> BenC: mjg59 reckoned there was a webcam patch he'd sent to you that wasn't merged yet?
[07:19] <BenC> Yeah, I have it in my inbox
[07:19] <cjwatson> it really is an excessively sexy machine. my wife had immediate hardware-lust
[07:20] <kylem> hahaha.
[07:20] <BenC> hehe
[07:20] <cjwatson> "so does he want it back?"
[07:21] <ivoks> um... if you need macs for testing...
[07:21] <ivoks> i think i can arrange a machine or two for testing
[07:22] <BenC> ivoks: spread the love...I could use a mactel for testing too
[07:22] <ivoks> ok, i'll let you know how it turns out
[07:23] <BenC> ivoks: thanks
[07:23] <ivoks> i don't like them :(
[07:26] <zul> heh mactel for everyone
[07:26] <ivoks> well, not for everyone... for ubuntu :)
[07:27] <kylem> and an ipw3945 now that i know the stupid atheros wireless is just a pci express card.
[07:27] <zul> futureshop? ick..
[07:27] <zul> why not the macstore?
[07:27] <ivoks> looks like i'm the only one on planet who doesn't like macs :)
[07:27] <kylem> zul, the macstore?
[07:27] <kylem> ivoks, i don't like apple
[07:28] <zul> ivoks: neither do i
[07:28] <kylem> ivoks, but it's the cheapest smallest core2duo machine i can find
[07:28] <cjwatson> the installer job seems considerably easier now that grub apparently works
[07:28] <zul> kylem: gimme a sec
[07:28] <ivoks> kylem: try toshiba satellite pro U200
[07:28] <ivoks> 12"
[07:28] <kylem> ugh, trashiba.
[07:28] <BenC> cjwatson: grub working is a plus :)
[07:29] <zul> kylem: mac group
[07:29] <kylem> do they still have tilde in the wrong location?
[07:29] <zul> group.ca/frame.html
[07:29] <kylem> zul, where is it?
[07:29] <zul> www.themacgroup.ca
[07:29] <ivoks> kylem: yes :D
[07:29] <kylem> sigh.
[07:30] <zul> kylem: 950 gladstone
[07:30] <BenC> I hate this keyboard that james bought for the 965 server in mountain view
[07:30] <BenC> the pipe is below the "return" key, and the return key stretches up to where the pipe is supposed to be
[07:30] <kylem> BenC, ugh
[07:31] <BenC> so when I type "cmd | foo" I usually end up getting just command to stdout
[07:31] <ivoks> nasty
[07:31] <kylem> zul, hmm, it's cheaper by $10 than futureshop, but only claims to have 512M while the apple online store and futureshop both say it has 1G
[07:31] <zul> ah
[07:33] <kylem> jesus, what a shitty website.
[07:34] <ivoks> toshiba_acpi is broken in 2.6.20 :/
[07:34] <BenC> ivoks: I need to add the hotkey via acpi patch
[07:34] <ivoks> oh, ok...
[07:36] <zul> kylem: powermac is still too expensive for me from that store
[07:40] <ivoks> kylem: there bug #78976 :)
[07:50] <kylem> thanks.
[07:50] <ivoks> movie is best viwed with xine :)
[07:51] <kylem> ok, that helps.
[07:51] <kylem> is VT enabled in your bios?
[07:51] <ivoks> yes
[07:51] <kylem> spiffy.
[07:53] <Nafallo> ivoks: agreed. atleast for DVD-support :-)
[07:54] <ivoks> Nafallo: well, this mpeg had some postprocessing; this results in very bad picture with gstreamer, but very nice with xine/mplayer
[07:54] <kylem> ivoks, it looks like it hung the cpu.
[07:55] <ivoks> kylem: maybe it's related, but i'm getting this all the time:
[07:55] <ivoks> APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
[07:55] <ivoks> for both CPU0 and CPU1
[07:59] <ivoks> brb
[08:13] <adon> hi everyone! I managed to make my card (Hauppauge WinTV express work) I had to edit the /etc/modprobe.d/options file to set the type of the tunner. Does anyone know if there is a reason why it is not hardcoded to the kernel?
[08:15] <adon> Actually is this the place to ask this question?
[08:16] <ivoks> adon: there is a reason; one chip can have lots of diferent tuners
[08:17] <zul> #ubuntu
[08:19] <adon> zul: ok
[10:20] <cjwatson> mjg59: have you noticed the CD on that Mac apparently spinning down ridiculously often?


[01:24] <NCommander> persia:Dove boards have PCIe slots :-)
[01:27] <rcn-ee> users who have used ubiquity/oem-config before...  anyway to force it to run on both tty0 and ttyS2 on first boot?
[01:44] <rcn-ee> ping for ogra, this must be an oem-config bug.. on first boot after you create your first user, oem-config exits, then restarts oem-config again from scratch...  force a reboot, then on the next boot oem-config starts again... however user does exist if you switch to tty2...
[03:11] <bobrown> Is it possible to buy an ARM laptop today and easily install the latest Ubuntu Linux on it?
[10:31] <ogra> woah, mounting /proc in a qemu-arm-static chroot and then installing mono explodes in a funny way
[10:56] <lool> ogra: So how does it fail?
[10:56] <lool> ogra: Could you file a bug about that?
[10:57] <ogra> lool, well, it tries to enable binfmt :)
[10:57] <ogra> i doubt there is any easy way around
[10:57] <ogra> apart from having a fake proc, afaik persia and lifeless had some fuse based ideas for that during the sprint
[10:57] <lool> It didn't fail for me
[10:58] <lool> update-binfmts: warning: /usr/share/binfmts/cli: no executable /usr/bin/cli
[10:58] <lool> found, but continuing anyway as you request
[10:58] <lool> update-binfmts: warning: found manually created entry for python2.6 in
[10:58] <lool> /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc; leaving it alone
[10:58] <lool> (apt-get install mono-runtime)
[10:58] <ogra> right and then it tries to use the existing cli handler during package install
[10:58] <ogra> ah
[10:58] <ogra> i did apt-get install tomboy
[11:00] <ogra> lool, did you ever have contact with hppfs ?
[11:00] <ogra> seems that could work as a fake proc in a chroot
[11:00] <lool> No
[11:01] <lool> I'm not sure I'm in line with the fake proc idea
[11:01] <lool> I think qemu-arm would have to emulate some of it due to the emulation it does
[11:01] <ogra> well, how else would you handle stuff that needs proc in a foreign chroot
[11:01] <ogra> right, so you still need to fake something
[11:02] <lool> I'd personally prefer to use containers if we want to support this
[11:02] <ogra> thats a lot of overhead
[11:02] <lool> No
[11:02] <lool> It's almost zero overhead
[11:02] <ogra> well, we only need proc containers do so much more
[11:03] <ogra> and are quite complicated to set up for a user
[11:08] <ogra> lool, http://paste.ubuntu.com/384298/
[11:09] <ogra> so ita a SIGABRT and i guess because it sees the binfmt handler and tries to exec it
[11:09] <lool> ogra: Could you file a bug?
[11:10] <ogra> gar, apport doesnt know about qemu-arm-static
[11:13] <lool> The unsupported syscall 242 ones are probably harmless (affinity stuff)
[11:14] <lool> The unuspported syscall 26 is just a consequence of trying to run gdb under qemu-arm, wont work because ptrace() isn't emulated (and far from trivial I'm afraid)
[11:15] <ogra> yep
[11:15] <ogra> bug 528377
[11:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 528377 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) "qemu-arm-static fails installing mono assemblies if /proc is mounted in the chroot (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528377
[11:17] <ogra> i actually only started experimenting with mono in chroot again out of desparation, i have no idea what to do with the iso-codes hang
[11:18] <ogra> seems no matter what kernel or config i use, installing the ubuntu-netbook task hangs reliably at iso-codes unpacking
[11:19] <ogra> i thought its caused by swapping but that was a red herring
[11:42] <lool> ogra: So the way you word the bug report, it sounds like of /proc is NOT mounted in the chroot, one can actually install mono; is this correct?
[11:42] <ogra> no
[11:42] <ogra> but i dont get the segfaults
[11:42] <lool> What do you get?
[11:42] <ogra> it simply doesnt execute the installation of the assmeblies
[11:42] <ogra> and dpkg fails
[11:43] <ogra> i'll add a log for comparison once my machine has spare cpu cycles (rootstock running atm)
[11:58] <asac> hi doko ;9
[11:59] <ogra> oh, a rare guest :)
[11:59] <asac> hehe
[12:03] <doko> I was forced :-/
[12:05] <doko> NCommander: you might want to look at Mikael's comments in http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40860 (tracked down to the very same binutils change)
[12:05] <ubot4> gcc.gnu.org bug 40860 in libgcj "[4.4/4.5 regression] regressions in libjava testsuite on arm-linux" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[12:46] <rcn-ee> hey ogra, oem-config question...   Should it run in an endless loop in lucid? ;)
[12:47] <ogra> no, it shouldnt, boot with debug-oem-config on the cmdline and file a bug with /var/log/oem-config.log attached please
[12:47] <ogra> against ubioquity
[12:49] <rcn-ee> Thank so, debug-oem-config's the trick... First thing i'll do when i get to work..
[12:50] <ogra> thanks :)
[12:50] <rcn-ee> anyluck with the weird iso-codecs lockup today? ;) i'm seeing it to on my machines...  Whats weird In debian it's actually locking up at I: Extracting zlib1g...
[12:52] <ogra> with debians qemu ?
[12:52] <rcn-ee> squeeze.. so (ssh's in)
[12:52] <ogra> i'm trying to debug that since yesterday but given the time it takes to get to the hang its might still take more :)
[12:53] <ogra> i'm just trying it in a normal VM so that i can exclude rootstock here
[12:54] <ogra> rcn-ee, btw, if you file a bug for oem-config under rootstock, please subscribe ubuntu-armel
[12:54] <ogra> so we get the mails in the arm team
[12:54] <rcn-ee> i know what you mean.. (QEMU PC emulator version 0.11.1)... what's weird, when i was building 'google os' images in a chroot, it locked up on that same package file..
[12:55] <ogra> i think its something in qemu not handling a certain amount of CPU load or disk I/O
[12:55] <ogra> but its so damned hard to track down
[12:56] <ynezz> isn't that "I: Extracting zlib1g..."
[12:56] <ynezz> oh damn keyboard
[12:56] <ogra> funnily i can just install iso-codes just fine if i install it standalone
[12:57] <ogra> ynezz, thats not in the VM
[12:57] <rcn-ee> seems very reasonable.. do you guys have a dedicated qemu hacker at ubuntu?
[12:57] <ogra> rcn-ee, well, lool is very passionate to get all qemu bugs solved and has the knowledge ...
[12:58] <ogra> he's not a "dedicated qemu hacker" per se i think though :)
[12:59] <rcn-ee> yeah he's good.... anything show up weird in the vm machine log's file?  (i could dump it too..)
[13:00] <ogra> i'm only just running it in a VM
[13:00] <ogra> before i suspected rootstock to be at fault ... thats to closed
[13:00] <ogra> hmm, fun
[13:01] <ogra> my VM doesnt even boot
[13:01] <ogra> whoops typoing the command doesnt really help :P
[13:03] <asac> /tmp/ccQPoJy6.s:1847: Error: selected processor does not support `rsc r7,r7,#0'
[13:03] <asac> hmm
[13:04] <ogra> whats that ?
[13:04] <lool> reverse substract with carry
[13:04] <asac> right
[13:04] <asac> is that thumb only instruction?
[13:04] <asac> or too old
[13:04] <lool> only available on ARM, not Thumb
[13:05] <asac> in the arm reference i have open its named in the thumb section
[13:05] <asac> yeah thats what i expected
[13:06] <lool> asac: there's a regular substract though
[13:07] <lool> asac: sbc r7,#0,r7?
[13:07] <lool> Hmm don't think you can pass an immediate as first arg though
[13:08] <asac> what i find odd is that its not even marked as arm only in the reference quick card ... strange
[13:09] <lool> asac: I certainly see it marked as such
[13:10] <lool> asac: RSC is 5th in the substract instructions, and the fifth entry in Notes is "A"
[13:10] <lool> So not in Thumb
[13:12] <asac> oh right. i misinterpretetd the table
[13:13] <lool> there's a blank which is hard to read
[13:21] <persia> ogra: lool: Did you want the breakdown of the fuse proc idea?  I think StevenK fiddled with some initial implenetation stuff.
[13:23] <ogra> persia, i would, seems lool doesnt ... he wants containers
[13:23] <persia> containers are a more correct solution.
[13:23] <ogra> but way more complex
[13:24] <lool> no
[13:24] <ogra> and do they guarantee i dont see the system kernel in /proc ?
[13:24] <lool> no
[13:24] <ogra> right
[13:25] <persia> The fuse hack was just to use fuse.pm to check the filename and if it matched one of a set of predefined files, perform some operation (either cat a fake file, or run the real file through a filter).  If it doesn't match, feel the original file (or feed through an identity filter, depending on operation)
[13:25] <ogra> what we need is a /proc that emulates a generic arm machine
[13:26] <ogra> hrm, now i cant even purge iso-codes from my VM
[13:27] <ogra> just sits there in the ldconfig triggers
[13:28] <persia> ogra: The fuse hack can give us that (at least enough to fake most stuff).
[13:29] <persia> Just needs someone to write up the perl.
[13:29] <ogra> yeah
[13:29] <lool> persia: I find it hard to imagine that we will get cpuinfo emulation in containers in the short term
[13:29] <persia> Your python is better than your perl, right?  How are you at python regexes?
[13:29] <lool> persia: However I do believe we should use containers for things like binfmt
[13:30] <ogra> persia, i come from perl ... just needs a little refresh i guess
[13:30] <persia> lool: So you think it makes sense to combine a container and the fuse-proc hack?
[13:30] <lool> persia: The cpuinfo hack could either be done with fuse or in qemu; I think I find it more useful in qemu though
[13:30] <persia> ogra: StevenK suggested perl was the better language for it because it's mostly just matching regexes and then running text filters.
[13:30] <lool> I find things are complex and fragile enough that I'd prefer not to have to fiddle with fuse, personally
[13:30] <ogra> yeah
[13:31] <ogra> lool, to run containers you need to do massive changes to yxour chroot (which is the part i find complex)
[13:31] <persia> lool: The advantage of fuse over qemu is that it's trivial to write such a hack in perl, but fixing qemu requires real thought.  If you're up for doing it, it would be loads better.
[13:32] <lool> ogra: No
[13:32] <ogra> huh ?
[13:33] <ogra> you need at least to create lots of stuff in /dev, need to hack mountall defaults etc
[13:34] <persia> ogra: Shouldn't it be as simple as http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/lxc-configure-debian-lenny-containers/ ?
[13:34] <ogra> no
[13:35] <ogra> lenny is way easier :)
[13:35] <ogra> no upstart ... etc
[13:35] <ogra> he wrote one for lucid too
[13:35] <ogra> http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/lxc-configure-ubuntu-lucid-containers/
[13:35] <ogra> but effectively /proc will stil show you the host CPU and features
[13:36] <persia> Why doesn't udev work?
[13:36] <ogra> so its pointless to use containers imho
[13:36] <lool> Again, containers are not going to solve the cpuinfo problem
[13:36] <persia> Containers solve other issues.
[13:36] <persia> They don't solve /proc
[13:36] <lool> They actually help a lot with /proc, but not for cpuinfo
[13:36] <persia> (well, they solve other /proc issues, but mostly of type /proc/nnnn)
[13:36] <persia> Right.
[13:37] <persia> Well, also not proc/[a-z]* mostly.
[13:37] <ogra> would they be able to solve binfmt ?
[13:37] <ogra> (i doubt that)
[13:38] <ogra> given that binfmt would still need a qemu-arm-static wrapper around the interpreter calls
[13:39]  * ogra goes for some lunch
[14:15] <ogra> urgh
[14:16] <ogra> maximizin the qemu window while it does something and then restoring it to its original size reults in massively blurry fonts
[14:18] <ogra> the funny think is that its only blurry in the center of the window ... top and bottom are crisp
[14:24] <mikeul> I have a couple of patch suggestions for rootstock, where should I submit them?  On launchpad?
[14:24] <lool> mikeul: Ideally, submit them as merge proposals
[14:24] <mikeul> via launchpad
[14:24] <ogra> yes
[14:24] <lool> mikeul: bzr branch lp:project-rootstock my-feature; cd my-feature && hack && bzr commit; bzr send
[14:25] <mikeul> they're trivial, but it'll be a good getting-to-know-launchpad exercise.
[14:25] <mikeul> bzr send?  I did bzr push"
[14:27] <lool> mikeul: Checkout "bzr help send" then  ;-)  bzr push is when you want to do things manually
[14:29] <ogra> lool, send requires an email setup, no ?
[14:29]  * ogra checks the help
[14:30] <ogra> ah, not a local mailserver, just a client
[14:31] <mikeul> why?  who gets an e-mail?
[14:31] <lool> mikeul: the email contact of the lp project
[14:31] <lool> mikeul: if you prefer, you can just submit your branch for merging via the web ui
[14:31] <ogra> right
[14:32] <mikeul> OK, so having pushed it to a personal branch, can I do that with "Propose for merging"?
[14:32] <ogra> yep
[14:33] <mikeul> Or should I push it to the project-rootstock page instead and propose-for-merge there?
[14:34] <persia> mikeul: I usually push to some personal lp page (e.g. lp:~mikeul/project-rootstock/make-everything-better ) and then do the merge proposal on LP.
[14:40] <ogra> mikeul, hmm, why do you add rmdir $BUILDDIR to the usage() function ?
[14:41] <ogra> $BUILDDIR wont exist if usage() is executed
[14:45] <ogra> mikeul, i think that requires more restructuring, i'm not really comfortable with creating $BUILDDIR just because non root users call --help, could you move the variables around a bit instead of adding the rmdir ?
[14:46] <ogra> its a good approach though
[14:54] <mikeul> $BUILDDIR _did_ exist when usage() is executed.  I called "sudo rootstock --help" a few times and ended up with several empty /tmp/tmp.xxxxxx dirs.
[14:54] <ogra> right, thats the actual bug :)
[14:54] <mikeul> I'd be happy to move some things around to fix it differently.
[14:55] <mikeul> e.g. to avoid creating /tmp/tmp.xxxxxx in the first place.
[14:55] <ogra> yes, BUILDDIR= and all variables that use ${BUILDDIR} need to move down a bit ... best is below the uid 0 check
[14:56] <ogra> (the script started as 50 lines ... and grew functions in several directions)
[14:56] <mikeul> ogra, I'm familiar with that.
[14:57] <ogra> :)
[15:00] <mikeul> OK, then move all the variable defs to after the cmdline parsing.  I'll move the qemu-system-arm and debootstrap checks, too, since they're also not needed e.g. for --help
[15:02] <ogra> be careful though, some need to be initialized before the cmdline parsing
[15:02] <ogra> best to only move everything with $BUILDDIR in it
[15:02] <mikeul> Oh yeah, that's why I went the quick-and-dirty rmdir route.
[15:04] <mikeul> OK, can you give me an overview of how to handle that with bazaar?  I can start from scratch and just post a new branch, but I'm guessing there's a different way.
[15:05] <ogra> just delete the rmedir with your next change ... the moving of the uid 0 check is fine
[15:05] <ogra> *rmdir
[15:06] <mikeul> ah, OK, so just dump more commits on top of my existing ones?
[15:06] <ogra> right "revert last change and .... "
[15:08] <mikeul> fyi, I'm a git'ter.  Do you mean a) I can change the history in bzr to remove mention of 'rmdir' or b) I should make the changes "on top of" the existing ones.
[15:09] <ogra> i would just do it on top
[15:09] <mikeul> OK
[15:09] <mikeul> easy peezy
[15:10] <ynezz> whois mikeul
[15:10] <ynezz> oops
[15:11] <ynezz> :)
[15:27] <mikeul> FYI, I'm not going to get around to doing even those small changes today, will get to it soon.  Signing out.
[15:29] <ogra> lool, so i am testing the same iso-codes issue in a real VM now instead of using rootstock, i'm at the point where apt stops moving in "unpacking iso-codes" ... i see nothing in the logs, apt-get and dpkg dont seem to consume to much CPU, one intresting thing i see is that dpkg.log seems to be behind and getting slowly filled ... dou you have any idea where else to look at ?
[15:29] <ogra> mikeul, dont worry :)
[15:29] <ogra> mikeul, thanks for doing the work :)
[15:30] <mikeul> Kein Problem, ogra, have a nice weekend.
[15:30] <ogra> du auch :)
[15:31] <ogra> grmbl ... i should have installed iotop first
[15:37] <ynezz> ogra: build karmic image today, using rootstock r82 and it boots :)
[15:38] <ogra> cool !
[15:41] <ogra> sigh ... no strace either in ubuntu-minimal
[15:42] <lool> ogra: Are you swapping?
[15:42] <lool> ynezz: We figured out the mountall issues with mikeul BTW
[15:42] <ogra> i created a swapfile on the virtual disk after it hung already for 20min
[15:42] <lool> ynezz: Missing rw on the kernel cmdline
[15:43] <ynezz> ogra: can't login tho, maybe it's related to useradd http://paste.ubuntu.com/384439/
[15:43] <ogra> yeah, looks like a bug
[15:43] <ynezz> lool: yep, saw it in bzr log, thanks
[15:44] <ogra> i switched the default to install oem-config instead ... i havent tested with username/pw for a while ... its on my list
[15:44] <ogra> ynezz, i fear you need to mount your image and chroot into it to create the user
[15:44] <ynezz> did it already, no problem
[15:45] <ogra> ah, k
[15:45] <ynezz> just letting you know
[15:45] <ogra> yeah, thanks
[15:45] <ogra> seems the options are wrong, i'll look into it on the weekend
[15:45] <ogra> lool, so swapon after it was already stuck didnt help ...
[15:46] <ogra> even though i see 204 bytes of the swap being used now after 1h
[15:46] <ogra> err, 240
[15:46] <ogra> apt-get now jumps between 80 and 95% CPU
[15:47] <ogra> but nothing happens beyond that
[15:53] <ynezz> ogra: it's missing " around one param http://paste.ubuntu.com/384443/
[15:53] <ogra> oh, right, it used to live directly in the installer script ... when i moved it i didnt add proper quoting
[15:53] <ogra> ynezz, thanks !
[15:54] <ynezz> np, that was easy :p
[15:54] <ogra> (in fact i didnt really care about it because oem-config should become the default)
[15:54] <ogra> but i'll add your fix with the next commit
[16:14] <asac> bug 507503
[16:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 507503 in linux-mvl-dove (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "VFP/NEON state is not preserved around signal handlers, causing state corruption between user processes (affects: 1)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507503
[16:16] <NCommander> ramana: morning (or afternoon)
[16:18] <asac> bug 528524
[16:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 528524 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Sound not working in all apps on dove (affects: 1)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528524
[19:24] <alecrim> I got this problem with ubuntu karmic http://paste.ubuntu.com/384586/ . I fixed it at Mamona with this patch (http://gitorious.org/mamona/openembedded/commit/4d4933fd97b85a52e48a5fa1a97bd34532864e32). Anyone with this problem?
[20:39] <NCommander> ARGH($*)(@*#$)(*@!$#@$
[20:39]  * NCommander hates OOo
[21:18] <lool> alecrim_: Could you file a bug with your patch?
[21:18] <lool> alecrim_: I'm pretty sure I saw this in the past, I think it was on the sheevaplugs
[21:21] <lool> alecrim_: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=314334
[21:21] <ubot4> Debian bug 314334 in apt "apt: APT doesn't work on filesystems without shared writable mmap(), like JFFS2." [Wishlist,Open]
[21:43] <alecrim_> lool, ok!
[22:05] <|nfecteD> rcn-ee: you around?
[22:20] <NCommander> ramana: ping?
[22:21] <|nfecteD> anyone want to give me whatever boot.scr they are using for lucid alpha 3?
[22:25] <NCommander> |nfecteD: what are you trying to do?
[22:25]  * NCommander is the boot.scr writer guy
[22:25] <|nfecteD> getting it to boot :/
[22:25] <NCommander> |nfecteD: which SoC?
[22:26] <|nfecteD> beagleboard
[22:26] <|nfecteD> init: plymouth-log main process (227) terminated with status 111
[22:26] <NCommander> |nfecteD: Beagleboard isn't officially supported by Ubuntu
[22:27] <|nfecteD> thats the last thing i get during boot before it seems to hang
[22:27] <NCommander> |nfecteD: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu - but here's the best set of directions I can give
[22:27] <NCommander> oh wow
[22:27]  * NCommander feels honored
[22:27] <NCommander> Beagle adopted my boot.scr mechanism
[22:27] <NCommander> or something similar
[22:28] <NCommander> |nfecteD: sounds like your making it to the initramfs and then its crashing.
[22:28] <|nfecteD> yup
[22:28] <|nfecteD> seems so...
[22:28] <NCommander> I'd recommend trying #beagle and if no response, come back here
[22:29] <|nfecteD> plymouth needs kms/framebuffer and initramfs i believe...
[22:29] <|nfecteD> early patch, i'm messing with:
[22:29] <|nfecteD> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~robertcnelson/project-rootstock/initramf...
[22:29] <|nfecteD> and boot.scr needs to be updated (simple) to also load the initramfs
[22:29] <|nfecteD> into ram..
[22:29] <|nfecteD> found that on the beagleboard group now
[22:31] <|nfecteD> i would think rcn built the newest rootfs with that patch so what im missing is what goes in the boot.scr
[22:31]  * |nfecteD pokes rcn-ee


[12:48] <Geochr> hi, is everybody here ?
[12:49] <Geochr> I start translating the manual and i want help how to translate some strings
[12:50] <Geochr> for example in message: windows!closing
[12:51] <Geochr> which words must be translated ?
[12:56] <sagaci> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/precise/view/head:/ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu-desktop.tex#L133
[12:56] <sagaci> it's an index item
[12:57] <Geochr> so i can translate both words, right ?
[13:01] <sagaci> I'm guessing so if they match up with the index keywords
[13:11] <Geochr> sagaci, can i change the order of the words ? If yes, the "!" will be kept in  the word "windows or closing" ?
[13:15] <sagaci> yep, you can translate it, it's just a reference in the index so just have the first word as the translation of windows and the second word as a translation of closing, see here http://i.imgur.com/Koty0.png
[13:18] <Geochr> so i will translate both words without to change the order of the word.
[13:23] <sagaci> Geochr: well you could just use one word
[13:36] <Geochr> ok thanks a lot...
[15:56] <hannie> ping godbyk


[14:39] <m1chael> sry for that
[14:45] <m1chael> and I'm new to radeon graphic cards if I want a Gallium3D driver which repo should I add ubuntu-x or XorgEdgers? and what package to install? xserver-xorg-video-ati?
[15:56] <ashams> May ask for help: I can't find the upstream git tree for xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[16:03] <soren> ashams: git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-input-synaptics ?
[16:07] <ashams> soren: yeah, thank you
[16:08] <soren> ashams: np
[16:08] <soren> ashams: I found it in its /usr/share/doc/<blah>/copyright file, by the way.
[16:11] <ashams> soren: thank you
[16:11] <ashams> soren: may I ask for another favor?
[16:12] <ashams> soren:  I can't find the xorg config file
[16:12] <ashams> thus I can't make run-time config
[16:31] <ashams> soren: sorry, I need to go :)
[17:45] <EagleScreen> hello
[17:47] <EagleScreen> I want to disable the "intel" Xorg driver in order to use the "fbdev" in natty, but there isn't xorg.conf.d/50-device.conf
[17:48] <EagleScreen> fbdev is more reliable than intel in my case
[19:20] <bryceh> EagleScreen, you need to blacklist i915 in the kernel modules to do that
[19:40] <EagleScreen> thanks you
[19:44] <EagleScreen> using fbdev, the mouse pointer dissapiars if is not moving
[19:44] <EagleScreen> dissapears
[23:27] <Sarvatt> RAOF_: are ya around by any chance? I'm having a heck of a time finding the vblank hang bug to dupe a few to it since it's lost in the mess that are linux bugs, have the number handy?
[23:33] <Sarvatt> ahhh got it, nevermind  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/unity/+bug/740126
[23:33] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 740126 in unity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 6 other projects) "Something blocks compiz randomly several times per day (affects: 9) (dups: 1) (heat: 68)" [High,Triaged]
[23:39] <Sarvatt> bryceh: funny, now that I'm digging into intel bugs I see quite a few that are most likely dupes of this one, including the one that looked like a libdrm regression
[23:41] <Sarvatt> why is it every cycle there's a huge number of bugs on intel that happen during dpms events? third release in a row, definitely something to ask cert to test the whole cycle if its not already