[08:00] <Grant-A> elky: It was a joke
[08:00] <n2diy> spontaneous order?
[08:01] <elky> Grant-A, (tasteful) jokes are what #ubuntu-offtopic is for. not here.
[08:01] <n2diy> or is it spontaneous chaos?
[08:01] <jacquesdupontd> Myrtti, i just wanna help as i am still drunk from yesterday and have nothing else to do
[08:01] <n2diy> jacquesdupontd: I'll drink to that!
[08:02] <Myrtti> n2diy: you should know better than to join in this
[08:02]  * jacquesdupontd wants people to stop making me answer to off topic
[08:02] <Myrtti> problem solved
[08:02] <n2diy> Myrtti: oh, why, as this happened before?
[08:02] <n2diy> as/has
[08:04] <ActionParsnip1> jacquesdupontd: do you have an ubuntu support uestion?
[08:04] <Myrtti> ActionParsnip1: he's muted currently
[08:04] <ActionParsnip1> Myrtti: thanks
[08:04] <DerKlempner> so i've searched the repositories for a program to monitor LAN traffic for all the computers connected to my router, but i've been unable to find anything that suits my needs.  any suggestions?
[08:06] <n2diy> Myrtti: oh, why, has this happened before? I wasn't aware of it.
[08:06] <bazhang> DerKlempner, to monitor or to shape
[08:06] <Myrtti> n2diy: common sense should have told you not to join
[08:06] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: you will need to use a tool to probe each system every few seconds to create a history, if you swap out your dumb router for a low power consuming pc with a tonne of intelligence you can run monitoring tools on it
[08:06] <DrMrHorse> i have hardy and jaunty partitions that both worked. jaunty still works, but now the hardy partition will not boot, freezes in recovery mode on a line about "generic cd-rom driver."  i can read and write to the partition.
[08:06] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: home grade routers arent really designed for that kind of analysis
[08:06] <Myrtti> n2diy: if there's unrest, you don't start waving your hands in the air and scream "there's some unrest"
[08:07] <DerKlempner> bazhang: just to monitor
[08:07] <DerKlempner> ActionParsnip1: are you saying there isn't anything I can run on this computer to do the job?
[08:07] <n2diy> Myrtti: Ok, but it is late, and slow, and we all tend to drift OT now and then, it isn't the end of the world?
[08:07] <DerKlempner> ActionParsnip1: but i do have a Cisco-powered router, so i'd hope there's something available
[08:07] <Myrtti> n2diy: pm?
[08:07] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: not with any real resolution, you will be sequentially polling the systems to get the latest news then adding it to a backlog of previos stuff which you can then analyse
[08:08] <nnull> ActionParsnip1#  what are you thinking about dd- ? or ?
[08:08] <n2diy> Myrtti: yes, you can.
[08:08] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: then you may be able to turn on logging. i have a Linksys router (cisco home grade thing) which has some logging facility
[08:09] <DerKlempner> ActionParsnip1: same for me, but it's not enough info for me to make sure all computers aren't up to any illegal activities and/or shenanigans that would cause me undue problems
[08:10] <Ileden> Hi! I'm trying to get my Radeon 9200 to work with 3d support with the open source ati/radeon driver by following the guide which says it should be possible: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver  While display is otherwise ok, there's still no 3d support. 'lshw -C display' reports the display as "UNCLAIMED". My Xorg.0.log has only one error, which reads "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)". I'm wondering why it
[08:11] <DerKlempner> ActionParsnip1: i've enabled logging, but i was hoping there'd be a program available to help parse the logging info into more specific detail that would allow me to better understand individual computer traffic
[08:11] <wasabi_> anyone here with an iphone?
[08:11] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: implement it on the individual system, install a client agent on each pc which can alert or simply be polled every now and again.Your router is not hugely intelligent. Some allow you to block URLs or IP addresses
[08:11] <wasabi_> it looks like the appstore is not working
[08:11] <wasabi_> i can't download apps
[08:11] <ActionParsnip1> wasabi_: use the repositirys, they are working fine
[08:12] <wasabi_> what? you mean cydia?
[08:12] <Ileden> wasabi_: you sure you're not using Nokia, since "not working" sounds just like Ovi Shop... :D
[08:12] <Beyecixramd> wasabi_: iPhones are not just offtopc, that's not something to discuss about here
[08:12] <wasabi_> i'm talking about appstore
[08:12] <Bob_Dole> I have 2 4GB thumbdrives. I intend to hide them away inside the case. can I make them seem like 1 8GB drive, or set it up so that I won't run out of space as soon?
[08:12] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip1: he's talking about AppleStore
[08:12] <drew212> anyone willing to help me with my wireless problem?
[08:12] <wasabi_> for the iphone
[08:12] <DerKlempner> ActionParsnip1: i'm unable to implement a client agent on every system, that's my only issue
[08:12] <bazhang> wasabi_, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:12] <ActionParsnip1> wasabi_: no, run: gksudo synaptic   you can install apps from there, or use sudo apt-get install <app name>
[08:12] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip1: Applestore, not appstore, he's not talking about ubuntu's appstore, but Apple's store
[08:13] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: its worth it, we use altiris where I work, its on every server we run
[08:13] <ActionParsnip1> Beyecixramd: then he shouldnt abbreviate ;)
[08:13] <wasabi_> lol
[08:13] <DrMrHorse> what command do i put in to find my cd drive info?
[08:13] <DrMrHorse> like model
[08:13] <ActionParsnip1> wasabi_: you shouldnt abbreviate, it leads to confusion
[08:13] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip1: yes, and that's offtopic here xD
[08:13] <drew212> one of the listed cards that ubuntu supports causes the system to freeze on my laptop... DWL-650+ Airplus card...
[08:14] <glicks> excuse me, im looking at my character map, and where are the spanish caracters like the inverted questionmark and such?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip1> Beyecixramd: wellits not, i could talk entirely in acronyms in my quest for advice on ubuntu and it would lead nowhere, so I am advising a better method to convey the users question so I can advise
[08:14] <Beyecixramd> glicks: supuestamente al lado de ?
[08:14] <Beyecixramd> a la derecha
[08:15] <glicks> Beyecixramd, heh no hablo much espanol
[08:15] <DerKlempner> ActionParsnip1: it's not a question of "should i or shouldn't i?" it's a question of not every computer being under my administration.  when i have no administrative control over the computers in question then i can't install the necessary software
[08:15] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip1: No no, i mean,wasabi, he was doing offtopic here
[08:15] <glicks> im just trying to figure out how to type the spanish characters
[08:15] <Beyecixramd> glicks: wops, sorry, i mean, the ¿ mark is at the right side of ?
[08:15] <glicks> and add them to my character map tool bar
[08:15] <drew212> any help anyone?
[08:15] <Hatsjoe> Heey all
[08:16] <ActionParsnip1> Beyecixramd: gotcha
[08:16] <Beyecixramd> drew212: I sincerely have no idea
[08:16] <glicks> what script Beyecixramd ?
[08:16] <mataks> help pls.. a pop up window appear on my screen it says that  new update installation is ready to install.. i click partially install but i get error that can'tconnect to server ..
[08:16] <Beyecixramd> glicks: dunno
[08:16] <Hatsjoe> Does anyone have some experience installing Wintendo after Ubuntu?
[08:16] <Beyecixramd> mataks: are you behind a router/firewall/proxy?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: then the basic loggin in your router is all you have. You may be able to switch it to tomato which may give more functionality but I am not sure
[08:17] <Beyecixramd> Hatsjoe: http://apcmag.com/the_definitive_dualbooting_guide_linux_vista_and_xp_stepbystep.htm
[08:17] <mataks> Beyecixramd, Nope.. can i jus manually update the file?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: if you are that concerned then install a system as your router and you can analyse every single packet as it flys by
[08:17] <DerKlempner> ActionParsnip1: gotcha, thanks for the info  :)
[08:17] <mataks> Beyecixramd,  can i update using terminal?
[08:17] <Hatsjoe> Beyecixramd I already have a tut, but I need to make sure it works
[08:17] <Hatsjoe> Dont want to lose any data
[08:17] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: you may also be able to buy a small device to put between the router and the world to monitor stuff
[08:17] <Beyecixramd> mataks: yes you can, but i dont remember the command
[08:18] <mataks> Beyecixramd, ok.. i'll just ask smeone else
[08:18] <dahlia> I just installed 9.04 32 bit server. the terminal is very responsive until I run screen then I get long delays before my keystrokes are echoed or processed. Is there something I can change in my screen, like a configuration option or something, that will make it more responsive?
[08:18] <Hatsjoe> mataks sudo apt-get install update
[08:18] <Hatsjoe> oh wrong command xD
[08:18] <Beyecixramd> Hatsjoe: that one will work, you can even boot with NTOSloader instead of GRUB
[08:18] <glicks> im trying to add the inverted question mark to my character map applet but cant find it
[08:18] <ActionParsnip1> mataks: sudo update-manager -d   will jump you to karmic if you are on jaunty
[08:18] <Hatsjoe> without install mataks
[08:18] <mataks> what's karmic?
[08:18] <Beyecixramd> Hatsjoe: that will only update the database, not the system
[08:19] <n2diy> Hatsjoe: upgrade rather than update?
[08:19] <Hatsjoe> Well I found a tut how to backup the GRUB loader and after installing restore it and add XP to it
[08:19] <Beyecixramd> mataks: Karmic Koala is the codename for the next Ubuntu
[08:19] <uknow> what ubuntu works on ps3
[08:19] <Beyecixramd> Hatsjoe: everything is there
[08:19] <mataks> Beyecixramd, what!! another ubuntu..
[08:19] <glicks> im trying to add the inverted question mark to my character map applet but cant find it;0
[08:19] <Bob_Dole> uknow, an official one designed for PS3, not hosted on the ubuntu site...I think.
[08:19] <Hatsjoe> I still use 8.04 LTS
[08:19] <Beyecixramd> mataks: What's wrong with it? they make new versions.... like Microsoft does...
[08:19] <drew212> mataks: yes, ubuntu has a new release every 6 mo.
[08:20] <Bob_Dole> uknow, an unofficial one*
[08:20] <n2diy> uknow: A Play Station?
[08:20] <uknow> ps3 yeah
[08:20] <mataks> yes i know but i jsut installed jaunty this week.. i thought it's the latest
[08:20] <bazhang> #ubuntu-ps3 uknow
[08:20] <Beyecixramd> mataks: almost everyone releases a new version of their OS from time to time
[08:20] <uknow> thanks]
[08:20] <Bob_Dole> I want a PS3 just to run linux on, but I'm poor :/
[08:20] <mataks> is it safe to do this command?  sudo update-manager -d
[08:20] <drew212> mataks: it is the latest, karmic is still in alpha
[08:20] <Beyecixramd> mataks: Karmic Koala is still not ready, it's in alpha stage, so just wait.
[08:21] <Bob_Dole> Commodore doesn't!
[08:21] <Beyecixramd> Bob_Dole: Why a PS3? why not a computer?
[08:21] <ActionParsnip1> !ps3
[08:21] <n2diy> uknow: I didn't know a Play Station could run as a system/box?
[08:21] <mataks> what's new in next versin?
[08:21] <Bob_Dole> Beyecixramd, I have 15 of those, most are x86. I want the power of a CellBroadband engine.
[08:21] <Beyecixramd> n2diy: yes, even the XBOX can run as a computer. They are computers after all
[08:22] <ActionParsnip1> mataks: go find out, its far beyond the scope of an irc channel
[08:22] <uknow> yeah it has install other os on the ps3 meanu
[08:22] <Bob_Dole> The xbox requires hacks, however
[08:22] <Beyecixramd> Bob_Dole: I have the power of a 8800 GTS, which is more than any console, be sure of that
[08:22] <uknow> yeah i have a modded xbox
[08:22] <uknow> aswel
[08:22] <Hatsjoe> I have 3x 8800
[08:22] <Beyecixramd> Bob_Dole: But it can act as a pc, anyway, with or without hacks.
[08:22] <dahlia> nvm I got it to work better by uninstalling screen-profiles
[08:22] <Bob_Dole> the PS3 will run it without any modifications (beyond installing the OS)
[08:22] <Hatsjoe> 3 way-sli ftw
[08:22] <ActionParsnip1> Beyecixramd: not a ps3, 3 CPUs etc. good times
[08:23] <n2diy> Beyecixramd: roger that, but can you actually transform on into a stand alone..., say workstation, or server?
[08:23] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip1: Yes, my computer is more powerful than my PC
[08:23] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[08:23] <Beyecixramd> n2diy: as long as you install whatever you want... yes
[08:23] <jacquesdupontd> what about that new kernel on jaunty ?
[08:23] <Beyecixramd> n2diy: it's a computer after all, running a modded version of Windows 2000
[08:24] <drew212> any help with my wireless card situation?
[08:24] <owh> Which process handles the regular checking of updates? I thought it would be a cron-job for Update-Manager, but I cannot seem to locate it.
[08:24] <Hatsjoe> isnt there a modded linux version for lets say an PS3? :P
[08:24] <Bob_Dole> n2diy, the PS3 has 1 drawback, a hypervisor meant for a single purpose, keeping you out of the GPU, is present. So the CPU has to do all the rendering.
[08:24] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, tell me
[08:24] <Beyecixramd> Hatsjoe: Fedora runs without "mods"
[08:24] <Grant-A> Hatsjoe: YellowDog Linux is the Linux distribution officially supported for the PS3
[08:24] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: every time i plug in the wireless card it causes ubuntu to freeze, even though it says it is supported...
[08:24] <Hatsjoe> I mean a linux version for the PS3 and still be able to play the games on it
[08:24] <fotoflo> hmm, there's an error in one of my apache configuration files... how do i search all files under /var/www |grep xargs /htdocs
[08:24] <ActionParsnip1> owh: not sure myself, i rip out everything pakage related that isnt apt-get and dpkg
[08:24] <Bob_Dole> Hatsjoe, modded, no.. There are linux versions compiled for the Ps3, and you just have to select the "install OS" or some such in the XMB
[08:25] <Hatsjoe> cool
[08:25] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, maybe a problem of other modules loaded
[08:25] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, and then conflict
[08:25] <Beyecixramd> Bob_Dole: in the PS3 is as easy as installing any OS in any computer
[08:25] <n2diy> Beyecixramd: how do you communicate with the PS? Ethernet? What OS is it running?
[08:25] <Bob_Dole> Hatsjoe, No. Because the GPU is locked out, the CPU has to do all the rendering if you aren't using a game
[08:25] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, tell me the name of your wireless card please
[08:25] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: it is the D-link Airplus DWL-650+ the pastebin for the kernel logs is http://paste.ubuntu.com/235360/
[08:25] <Beyecixramd> n2diy: i dont have a PS3.
[08:25] <n2diy> Bob_Dole: 10-4
[08:25] <owh> ActionParsnip1: The actual problem I'm trying to solve is to get a cron-job to send a notification message to me, I figured that Update-Manager was already doing that - finding it seems not trivial :(
[08:25] <Beyecixramd> n2diy: also, the consoles don't run "OSes" but "firmwares"
[08:26] <jacquesdupontd> wich version of ubuntu do you use drew212
[08:26] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: i get the blinking caps and scroll lock kernel failure
[08:26] <ActionParsnip1> owh: cron your own job, i have
[08:26] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: jaunty, 32bit
[08:26] <owh> ActionParsnip1: How do you get it to talk to you - other than using email?
[08:26] <ActionParsnip1> owh: my system cleans, updates and dist-upgrades every day at 5am
[08:26] <ActionParsnip1> owh: email, but then it appears on my g1 phone
[08:26] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, ok thx i'm checking for ya
[08:26] <n2diy> Beyecixramd: well, the OS is on the firmware, and you can flash it.
[08:27] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: thank you very much! this has had me boggled for quite some time...
[08:27] <Beyecixramd> n2diy: there's no need to do it in the PS3. Sony supports other OSes aswell
[08:27] <owh> ActionParsnip1: The cron job I need to get output from checks to tell me if there are messages waiting in the mail queue, but sending out the alert for email doesn't help :)
[08:27] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, im here anyway we gonna find a solution
[08:27] <owh> jacekowski: A solution for what?
[08:28] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: thanks much =)
[08:28] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, do you use airplus ?
[08:28] <drew212> owh: for my wireless card problem
[08:28] <drew212> yes
[08:28] <owh> drew212: What card?
[08:28] <n2diy> Beyecixramd: ok, have a link to any hacks? I've passed up a few PS devices at yard sales, because I didn't think I could "play" wih them.
[08:28] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, ok that's normal then
[08:28] <drew212> owh: DWL-650+
[08:28] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, im gonna explain to you
[08:28] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: ok
[08:29] <Beyecixramd> n2diy: dont think so. but google's your friend
[08:29] <n2diy> Beyecixramd: 10-4 on google, thanks.
[08:29] <Onyx> I'm getting an error when I start k3b -- "No CD/DVD writer found"... indeed, I do have one, and fstab looks good.  Is there another reason k3b would be mad at me?
[08:29] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, question, why do you use airplus as it is natively supported ?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: can you please provide the output of: sudo lshw -C network   in a pastebin
[08:29] <Beyecixramd> Onyx: maybe the device isn't working right
[08:30] <Beyecixramd> Onyx: have you tried with other program (let's say) brasero?
[08:30] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: what is printed on the case of the device means nearly nothing in Linux. Its the wireless chip we need to know
[08:30] <jacquesdupontd> true
[08:30] <drew212> well i cant plug the card in without causing the computer to crash
[08:30] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, i think about a module problem
[08:30] <Onyx> Beyecixramd: Same issue with Brasero... the device was working fine about a week ago, so I don't know why that would be happening so suddenly
[08:31] <bazhang> drew212, you are hotplugging the card?
[08:31] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, why do you use airplus as it's not needed ?
[08:31] <drew212> hotplugging?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: is it PCI or USB?
[08:31] <drew212> it is an airplus because it was the card i used before i DLed ubuntu
[08:31] <Beyecixramd> Onyx: it could be broken.
[08:31] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, you should first remove airplus
[08:31] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: or PCMCIA?
[08:32] <indus> hi can someone tell me,if deleting existing /boot and moving it to another partition,then pointing grub to it will boot system fine?
[08:32] <drew212> PCMCIA
[08:32] <Ileden> I can't get the open-source "ati" driver to load using xorg.conf. An Ubuntu guide claims this should be possible for my card. How do I troubleshoot the issue?
[08:32] <bazhang> drew212, you cant hotplug those cards
[08:32] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: how do i "Remove" it?
[08:32] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: ok, so what is your issue with teh device/
[08:32] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, there's a pastebin
[08:32] <Onyx> Beyecixramd: Can you think of a software issue that it may be?
[08:32] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/235360/
[08:32] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: every time i plug it in, it causes the computer to freeze, and the scroll and caps lock lights blink...
[08:32] <jimd> indus: I would re-install grub (# grub-install /dev/sda, for example) just to be sure.
[08:33] <avionlux> I have flash 10, and it works fine, except when I go into full screen, then it skips and stutters. Anybody know a fix?
[08:33] <jimd> The grub boot loader code does need to find its map  file.
[08:33] <indus> jimd: ya iam asking same,if after moving the partition and reinstall grub will it work fine?
[08:33] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: you could try stopping hal, then inserting, then restarting hal. could help
[08:33] <Beyecixramd> Onyx: hmm... maybe apt removed the appropiate drivers, i dont know anything else
[08:33] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: hal?
[08:33] <indus> !hal
[08:34] <Beyecixramd> avionlux: flash works bad in Linux, it's the truth
[08:34] <indus> hardware abstraction layer  www.wikipedia.org/hal
[08:34] <Beyecixramd> avionlux: flash wasn't designed for Linux, but for Windows
[08:34] <jacquesdupontd> !services
[08:34] <jacquesdupontd> !service
[08:34] <avionlux> is there no fix at all beyecixramd. It was working ok for me in 8.10.
[08:34] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: how do i go about stopping hal?
[08:34] <indus> drew212: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal
[08:35] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, i'll need you if you'll have time to know a bit about what service i could stop on start
[08:35] <indus> but its being replaced by something else
[08:35] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: even if i start the computer with the card plugged in, it happens...
[08:35] <Beyecixramd> avionlux: Probably you were using an older version. try downgrading, or use Gnash instead
[08:35] <Beyecixramd> Gnash, IMO works even worse
[08:36] <avionlux> i'll probably just leave it alone if there isn't any known way to fix it
[08:36] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, that's why he told you to try to stop hal
[08:36] <neptunepink> HALP! Blender gives me this: http://www.andgasm.net/whut/attack.jpg
[08:36] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: sudo  /etc/init.d/hal stop
[08:36] <thejackal221> does anyone know of any good parental controls for linux
[08:36] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: insert card
[08:36] <Beyecixramd> avionlux: well, try to downgrade... other than that, i dont know
[08:36] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: sudo  /etc/init.d/hal restart
[08:36] <Beyecixramd> thejackal221: maybe good parental controls will be available as plugins for firefox
[08:37] <avionlux> ok, thanks. That is pretty much the same thing that was said on the web.
[08:37] <drew212> command not found
[08:37] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: sounds to me like you need some extra options for your pcmcia slot
[08:37] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: or the card is faulty
[08:37] <thejackal221> thanks I'll check that out
[08:37] <bazhang> thejackal221, dansguardian and ff plugin
[08:37] <avionlux> I appreciate the help. *smiles*
[08:37] <thejackal221> bazhang thanks
[08:37] <drew212> the card worked before i installed ubuntu...
[08:37] <Pensacola> is it possible to boot the graphical installer from a harddisk, say something like /boot/newinstall
[08:37] <Onyx> Beyecixramd: Very odd... I just had to pull the cables and plug them back in, and it's working like a champ... thanks for making me think along hardware lines :)
[08:37] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, i would say pcmcia
[08:38] <bazhang> drew212, what chipset for the card
[08:38] <Pensacola> I'm following the tutorial, but still don't know which files to copy
[08:38] <Beyecixramd> Onyx:  =)
[08:38] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: the terminal gives me an error, saying the command is not found...
[08:38] <drew212> bazhang: i have no idea...
[08:38] <Kalamansi> ubutu is donating free shipping ubuntu cd.do they donate laptop too? hehehe
[08:38] <bazhang> Kalamansi, no
[08:38] <Onyx> Guess I've got tiny gnomes yanking on the backs of my cables :)
[08:38] <Beyecixramd> Kalamansi: LOL
[08:39] <Beyecixramd> Onyx: tiny KDEs ;)
[08:39] <Onyx> lol
[08:39] <Kalamansi> Beyecixramd just trying any luck
[08:39] <Kalamansi> ehehe
[08:39] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: is that command you gave me wrong?
[08:39] <bazhang> drew212, try lsusb in terminal
[08:39] <DougM> Hey everyone
[08:39] <drew212> baz i cant plug the card in without it crashing...
[08:40] <bazhang> drew212, if that does not find it then lspci
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: can you please provide the output of:  uname -c
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> oops
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> lsb_release -c
[08:40] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, you could note those command and try it in recovery mode for example
[08:40] <jacquesdupontd> exemple
[08:40] <bazhang> drew212, this card has never worked then
[08:40] <drew212> lsb_release -c yeiles jaunty
[08:40] <drew212> yeilds*
[08:41] <drew212> bazhang: the card worked perfectly fine before ubuntu
[08:41] <bazhang> drew212, with ubuntu
[08:41] <drew212> bazhang: no... it hasn't
[08:41] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: restarting in safe mode will make the commands work?
[08:42] <drew212> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235360/
[08:42] <bazhang> drew212, well you need to find out the chipset, pcmcia cards are very problematic, I have two or three that I cannot use at all with Ubuntu
[08:42] <Beyecixramd> drew212: safe mode? are you talking about ubuntu? i didnt konw such a think existed in ubuntu
[08:42] <Beyecixramd> thing*
[08:42] <jacquesdupontd> pcmcia is errr berk
[08:42] <drew212> Beyecixramd: yes, if you hit delete before ubuntu loads
[08:42] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: possibly, linux gives no sla or garuntees
[08:43] <drew212> run those two codes by me again... im restarting in safe mode...
[08:43] <bazhang> lsusb lspci
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: /etc/init.d/hal stop
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: insert device
[08:44] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: sudo /etc/init.d/hal start
[08:44] <jacquesdupontd> sudo
[08:44] <jacquesdupontd> hehe ok
[08:44] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: then run: lspci; lsusb      as bazhang says
[08:44] <ActionParsnip1> jacquesdupontd: if its root recovery console it won't need sudo ;)
[08:44] <MT-> How can I make it so when a user creates a file, teh uid is the same as the parent?
[08:44] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: root with networking or just root shell prompt?
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: root is sufficient
[08:45] <bazhang> drew212, it will not boot with the card in? what options are you using
[08:45] <MT-> if possible
[08:45] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, oh sorry didn't knew you were talking about the recovery mode
[08:45] <DougM> Gimp wont open by clicking on my desktop icon so im opening it in terminal by typing "gimp" it loads up fine but i do get an error saying "gtk-WARMING **: Error parsing gtk-icon-sizes string: 'panel-menu-24,24 panel=20,20 gtk-large-toolbar=24,24' /usr/local/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/print: error while loading shared libraries: li bgimpprint.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory  (gimp:11611): LibGimpBase-WARNING **:
[08:45] <DougM>  gimp: wire_read() error
[08:45] <DougM> does anyone know what might be causing that
[08:45] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, then it's stopping hal without sudo inserting device starting ubuntu and then starting hal that you wants him to do ?
[08:45] <Beyecixramd> DougM: it's normal, you can ignore that error
[08:46] <drew212> bazhang: it will boot, it just freezes partway through...
[08:46] <bazhang> drew212, not using any bootoptions then?
[08:46] <DougM> Beyecixrand: oh ok.. do you have any idea why it wont open by clicking on the desktop icon?  It only opens through terminal then when i close terminal it will close aswell
[08:46] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, i meant stopping hal in recovery mode
[08:46] <DougM> sorry im new to this
[08:46] <drew212> bazhang: shortly after the card's power light blinks(about 6-10 times) it freezes
[08:46] <drew212> bazhang: not any that i know of...
[08:46] <Beyecixramd> right click and see what does exactly launch the icon
[08:47] <drew212> bazhang: i dont even know what boot options are... im quite new to ubuntu...
[08:47] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, have you tried some drivers ?
[08:47] <ActionParsnip1> jacquesdupontd: yeah, you can use sudo if you want. its not needed though as s/he will be root, so its not needed
[08:47] <drew212> im a he =P
[08:47] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, but i was just wondering you were putting sudo in your advice for restarting hal :)
[08:47] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, nevermind
[08:47] <bazhang> !bootoptions > drew212
[08:48] <Kartagis> LANG=en sudo chmod -r 0757 _temp/ / chmod: cannot access `0757': No such file or directory <---- why do I get that? syntax is correct
[08:48] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: try:   ln -s `which gimp` $HOME/Desktop/tryme
[08:48] <Kalamansi> how to install winxp dual boot in ubuntu
[08:48] <jacquesdupontd> ubottu is really perfect
[08:48] <bazhang> jacquesdupontd, drivers wont be the issue right now, he is trying to discover the chipset
[08:48] <Beyecixramd> ubottu: LOL
[08:48] <jacquesdupontd> bazhang, true
[08:48] <Beyecixramd> =)
[08:48] <bazhang> Kalamansi, easier if you install windows first
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> Kalamansi: install xp first leaving unpartitioned space, then install ubuntu into the free space, grub will sort out the dual boot at insall time for you
[08:49] <jacquesdupontd> Kalamansi, did you installed windows before ?
[08:49] <drew212> no, i dont use any boot options...
[08:49] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: Nothing happens when it ype that
[08:49] <baobao> becareful though, grub can easily screw up your system if you uninstall linux
[08:49] <Kartagis> !dual | Kalamansi
[08:49] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, make commands in recovery mode and find chipset then we can go further
[08:49] <Kartagis> !dual boot| Kalamansi
[08:50] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: good, now look on your desktop, is there a link?
[08:50] <drew212> which command gives me chipset?
[08:50] <baobao> because grub install on your linux partition, if you delete linux, you won't boot anything up
[08:50] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: sudo lshw -C network
[08:50] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, in recovery mode dont forget
[08:50] <Beyecixramd> !help
[08:51] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, no need for sudo haha :)
[08:51] <bazhang> Beyecixramd, ??
[08:51] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: yeah there is a link there now it has a little lock on the top right and when i try to open it it says the link tryme is broken
[08:51] <Beyecixramd> bazhang: I wsa testing the bot
[08:51] <ActionParsnip1> jacquesdupontd: its habit
[08:51] <Beyecixramd> was*
[08:51] <bazhang> Beyecixramd, /msg ubottu please
[08:51] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, i know i know it was a joke
[08:51] <Beyecixramd> ok
[08:51] <drew212> where is chipset listed?
[08:51] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, you'll see it dont worry
[08:51] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: ok then delete that, i assumed 'gimp' was the thing to run from terminal to get gimp running, am i wrong?
[08:52] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, just after typing the command the list won't be long
[08:52] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, but you have to have the card inserted
[08:52] <drew212> how do i scroll up?
[08:52] <drew212> all i can see is the end of the text =P
[08:52] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: yeah thats what i type to open gimp.. but for some reason I cant click on the desktop icon to open it.. it comes up in my taskbar saying its loading but then just dissapears
[08:53] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, won't be needed, oh you're on an another computer ?
[08:53] <drew212> yes =P
[08:53] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: if i type gimp in terminal it opens fine but i really dont want to have to go into terminal every time i want to open gimp
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: if you run: cd ~; ls -a    do you see a folder named .imp or similar?
[08:53] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: hold on let me check
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> .gimp
[08:53] <drew212> debugging while finding the problem is way to hard on the same puter
[08:53] <jacquesdupontd> shit + page up
[08:54] <drew212> well i cant see chipset... the top half the the output is cut off
[08:54] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, shift + page up
[08:54] <jacquesdupontd> should do the trick
[08:54] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, does it ?
[08:54] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: nah there is nothing like .imp
[08:55] <iceroot> is there a way to see with top for something similar, which process is running on which cpu?
[08:55] <iceroot> -f
[08:55] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: its not showing chipset...
[08:55] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, card inserted ? that's weird
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: or .gimp ?
[08:55] <lexxy_> hello
[08:55] <drew212> yeah...
[08:55] <drew212> it shows other stuff though...
[08:56] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, then lspci
[08:56] <drew212> vendor: Wireless Network CardBus PC card
[08:56] <lexxy_> need help with rhythm box plugin can someone help
[08:56] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: yeah i see gImp-2.2 and a gimp-2.6
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: rename both, then run gimp
[08:57] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: what should i rename them to?
[08:57] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: anything?
[08:57] <drew212> 3com corporation 3c905c-TX/TX-M
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: something different
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: but make sure you can rename them back
[08:57] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, ok that's it
[08:57] <drew212> that is listed as ethernet controller
[08:57] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, im gonna search
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: something like gimp-2.2_old  is intelligent
[08:57] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: ok.. this may sound bad. but how do i rename haha? sorry iv only had Ubuntu running for like 10 hours
[08:58] <iceroot> DougM: mv gimp-2.2 gimp-2.2-backup && mv gimp-2.6 gimp-2.6-backup
[08:58] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip1: right click, rename
[08:58] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, oh then that may not the one
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: mv ~/.gimp-2.2 ~/.gimp-2.2_old
[08:58] <drew212> there is also a networking controller
[08:58] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip1: sorry, wrong xD
[08:58] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, be
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> Beyecixramd: nar gui is for losers
[08:58] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, chipset ?
[08:58] <drew212> Texas instruments ACX 100 22MBPS wirless interface
[08:58] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, that's it this time
[08:58] <AdvoWork> Morning. Is there any way to rename a user account? Just the login name? Its greyed out in user accounts
[08:58] <drew212> are you sure?
[08:59] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, we are never sure about anything but i think yes lemme search
[08:59] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: mv is the rename cammand in uniix
[08:59] <drew212> that is what lshw shows as product
[08:59] <drew212> not chipset
[08:59] <Beyecixramd> DougM: rename/move command
[08:59] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: alright cool..  just renammed them
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: ok now when you rerun gimp, you will get stock settings. if this works we know your settings were bad, if not then the app is bad
[09:00] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, now you may need ndiswarpper to install it
[09:00] <Beyecixramd> i got to go now, see you later, guys
[09:00] <iceroot> AdvoWork: man usermod will tell you all you need
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: we renamed the profile so the settings are not gone and can easily be rnamed back
[09:00] <drew212> i'm pretty sure i have that installed...
[09:01] <iceroot> AdvoWork: i am not sure if you also have to rename the homedir
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: idiots will tell you to simply delete then the person being helped is like "where are my settings" and they would be gone, hence the rename
[09:01] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, it makes you able to install windows drivers
[09:01] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, you need .inf files
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: does gimp now work as you like?
[09:01] <jacquesdupontd> !ndiswarpper
[09:01] <drew212> yeah i'm pretty sure ndiswrapper is installed...
[09:01] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: didnt work.. but in terminal i see gimpshop_2.2.11-1_i386.deb and gimpshop_202011_i386.deb.1 and the first one is in red
[09:01] <jacquesdupontd> oops
[09:01] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: Could htat have something to do with it?
[09:01] <jacquesdupontd> !ndiswrapper
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: no, sounds like you have installed an app via deb file though
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> !gimpshop
[09:02] <AdvoWork> iceroot, can i not leave the home dir the same or?
[09:02] <DougM> ubottu: thanks
[09:02] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: how can i delete those two gimpshop files?
[09:02] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, check the link and install it with ndiswrapper
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: rm <filename>
[09:02] <iceroot> AdvoWork: i dont know, never renamed a user-account
[09:03] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: alright one second
[09:03] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, but having ndiswrapper installed already could be the problem also
[09:03] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, try to delete it before
[09:03] <drew212> uhh... how would i go about that?
[09:03] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, sudo apt-get --purge remove ndiswrapper
[09:04] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, maybe now the package is named differently i have to check
[09:04] <drew212> its ndiswrapper-common
[09:04] <AnActivist> Hello everyone I've been trying to set up Giver to transfer files to my laptop over lan
[09:04] <drew212> im getting it now...
[09:04] <jacquesdupontd> yes or ndiswrapper-utils or ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[09:04] <drew212> done...
[09:04] <AnActivist> I was able to transfer a whole video but now the connection doesn't work anymore
[09:05] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, now restart and plug the card to test what's happening
[09:05] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: yeah i deleted both of those and still not working.  I think i just might have to reinstall gimp
[09:05] <AnActivist> could someone explain to me how stfp works?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: i suggest: sudo apt-get --purge remove gimp; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install gimp
[09:05] <drew212> just a sec...
[09:05] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, im back in a sec a go to drink water
[09:05] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: alright ill give that a shot.. thanks a lot for your help.  Really appreciate it
[09:05] <cmartin0> i made a udev rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/ but it is not working. I need to use a usb device not being root
[09:06] <drew212> seems to be booting fine now =)
[09:06] <drew212> nope...
[09:06] <drew212> it just got farther than it usualy does =X
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: np man
[09:06] <drew212> caps and scroll lock blink...
[09:07] <DougM> Y
[09:07] <jacquesdupontd> oops
[09:07] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, type a sudo apt-get remove --purge ndiswrapper*
[09:07] <cyberjorge> how do i install ireport in ubuntu?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> cmartin0: is it a usb storage device?
[09:07] <cyberjorge> using repository?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> !info ireport
[09:07] <drew212> with the star?
[09:08] <jacquesdupontd> yes
[09:08] <cmartin0> ActionParsnip1, usbtiny avr iscp programmer
[09:08] <cyberjorge> i use 8.10 intepid
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> cyberjorge: its not in the standard repos so you will need a ppa
[09:08] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, it will remove all beginning by ndiswrapper
[09:08] <cmartin0> i can use eclipse to use the programmer not as root but running avrdude from the commandline i have to be root
[09:08] <Ademan> is there a simple way to rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/available ? dpkg keeps throwing an error about a parse error in it (it looks like a bunch of binary data got dumped in there) rather than trying to manually remove the faulty data, can i just rebuild the file?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> cmartin0: you can use    sudo -i
[09:09] <drew212> couldnt find package ndiswrapper*
[09:09] <cyberjorge> ActionParsnip1: i'm sorry but what do you mean by PPA, there's no linux version in the jaspereports dowload
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> !ppa | cyberjorge
[09:09] <cmartin0> ActionParsnip1, point is to use a udev rule so i dont have to su or sudo
[09:10] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: what do you think now?
[09:10] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, it has something to do with acx
[09:10] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, im checking
[09:10] <drew212> alrite =)
[09:11] <cyberjorge> ActionParsnip1: sorry i'm too newbie for these especially building the source
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> cyberjorge: just make sure you backup any and all files you edit so you can easily roll back
[09:12] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, it will takes me 5 minutes
[09:12] <cyberjorge> is there anywhere to get an ireport package with .sh installer?
[09:12] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: thats fine =)
[09:13] <DrMrHorse> i have hardy and jaunty partitions that both worked. jaunty still works, but now the hardy partition will not boot, freezes in recovery mode on a line about "generic cd-rom driver."  i can read and write to the partition.
[09:15] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, bad news 4   	 Matt Joiner  wrote on 2009-02-01:
[09:15] <jacquesdupontd> This bug still affects Intrepid (as of 2.6.27-11) & Jaunty (as of 2.6.28-6).
[09:15] <jacquesdupontd> Related issues (kernel panic and NetworkManager CPU problems) still exist on Intrepid and Jaunty.
[09:15] <drew212> for this card?
[09:15] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, it seems it's what's happening to you, im searching further
[09:15] <jacquesdupontd> sure
[09:15] <patricius_> does anybody now how well the latest stable ubuntu distro works with a docking station for Lenovo x200?
[09:15] <patricius_> *know
[09:15] <Tux-Panik> hug
[09:16] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, maybe updating package of acx foundable on soundforge will give you the link
[09:17] <drew212> updating the package of acx on soundforge?
[09:17] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, type : grep -n "ACX_RELEASE" acx_config.h
[09:17] <CodeWar> I ran update manager and it pulled over a new kernel 28-14 I have 28-13 currently installed. when it prompted me for menu.lst I accidentlly hit keep current.  Whats the right way to add this new kernel to menu.lst
[09:17] <drew212> do i need an internet connection? lol
[09:17] <drew212> that could be a minor problem
[09:17] <jacquesdupontd> no
[09:17] <anars> why does Ubuntu have several system loggers and cron daemons installed?
[09:18] <jacquesdupontd> i mean yes to update it drew212  but type the command first please
[09:18] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, i need to know the version of your acx
[09:18] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: hey i un-installed gimp using sud apt-get --purge remove gimp and sudo apt-get --purge autoremove then i typed cd ~; ls -a and the gimp files i renamed are still there.  I went to delete them using rm .gimp-2.6_old but its saying  rm: cannont remove '.gimp-2.2_old': Is a directory
[09:19] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: how do i delete those two files
[09:19] <drew212> its not showing anything...
[09:19] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, then i have the only and last solution for you check that page and please come back to me to tell me if it worked http://acx100.sourceforge.net/
[09:19] <anars> DougM: use 'rm -r <dir>'
[09:19] <jimd> DougM: rm -fr ./.gimp-...
[09:20] <DougM> cool thanks guys ill try that
[09:20] <drew212> let me restart...
[09:20] <jimd> -r is recursive and -f is "force" (don't bother asking me silly questions)
[09:21] <Flannel> jimd, DougM: there's almost never a reason you want to force it.
[09:21] <drew212> it says there is no such file or directory for the last command you sent me...
[09:21] <anars> agreed. and if there is, you better be sure you want to delete it.
[09:22] <anars> why does Ubuntu have several system loggers and cron daemons installed?
[09:22] <DougM> Flannel: ok.. so i should usually use 'rm -r <dir>'?
[09:22] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, i gave you a link
[09:22] <jimd> Sadly, as a professional sysadmin, I usually want to force it. :)
[09:22] <DougM> haha
[09:22] <jimd> It becomes a reflex after awhile.
[09:23] <drew212> alrite, well im exhausted for tonight, ill check back tomorrow...
[09:23] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, ok then bookmark the page it's your last chance
[09:23] <drew212> yeah, if not, im buying a supported card pronoto =P
[09:24] <bluepencil> Hi guys, is there an easy way to transfer files from on Jaunty machine to another Jaunty machine?
[09:25] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, hehe would be a better choice but im sure you can make it work i read a bit and it's makeable
[09:25] <jimd> rsyn -e ssh local_files other_system:/target_directory
[09:25] <jimd> rsync even.
[09:25] <DougM> its so weird after re installing gimp im still not able to open it by clicking on the icon.. i have to go through terminal
[09:25] <jimd> bluepencil: the rsync can work in either direction, too.
[09:25] <DougM> anyone have any other ideas why this might be happening?
[09:26] <jimd> DougM: Presumably the icon is pointing at the old version/location.  Try right clicking on it and looking that the icon's properties.
[09:27] <DougM> jimd: ok.. i did that now what am i looking for in the preferences?
[09:27] <mint> Hey, i have a very bad gpu, could you guys point me to a version that would work for me
[09:27] <jimd> Preferences?  I think you mean properties
[09:27] <DougM> jimd: sorry im really new to ubuntu
[09:27] <DougM> yeah properties haha
[09:28] <jimd> Look at where the command line is.  Paste or type the same thing you'd type at your command line into that field in the properies.
[09:28] <jimd> See?
[09:29] <DougM> jimd: ok so under command it says gimp-2.6 %U but when i open terminal i type 'gimp' to open it.  so im replacing whats in there now with just 'gimp'?
[09:29] <jimd> BTW: that works pretty much the same on Windows and MacOS .. the properties dialogs look a little different but the gist of it is the same.
[09:29] <jimd> DougM: I'd try that.  It should work.
[09:29] <DougM> jimd: alright one sec let me try
[09:30] <mint> hello?
[09:30] <rayno_b> Hello there - I have an Ubuntu server acting as a gateway for the internet.  Now at the moment, one user can use all of the bandwitdh of the internet which obviously stops all other users from accessing the internet at good speeds.  How can I control bandwidth per user (and maybe per port)?
[09:30] <DougM> jimd: wow your good.. iv been trying for like two hours to get that to work haha.  Thanks a lot i really appreciate it.
[09:30] <jimd> right click is your friend
[09:31] <DougM> haha
[09:31] <DougM> good to know
[09:31] <jimd> Under most OSes if something doesn't seem to work right when you click on it, try right clicking or holding down funny "command" or "alt" keys while you click.
[09:31] <richardcavell> jimd: middle click is a reasonable acquaintance
[09:31] <mint> do i have voice (sorry for being anxious) windows crashed on me again
[09:32] <mint> and im not reinstalling it
[09:32] <jimd> mint: we see you.
[09:32] <jimd> mint: your voice is working here.
[09:32] <shampoo> Hi, i have a question, i want to find out if an xml-file has the right (utf-8) encoding, any idea how i do this?
[09:32] <richardcavell> mint: but apparently your windows is not
[09:32] <shampoo> file --mime only tells me  application/xml
[09:32] <mint> hello ?
[09:32] <mint> Hello
[09:32] <jimd> richardcavell: middle click is somewhat customary to UNIX/Linux.  It's fairly rare to Windows and practically unheard of on the Mac.
[09:33] <shampoo> hello mint
[09:33] <mint> omfg people
[09:33] <mint> :)
[09:33] <richardcavell> jimd: Hey, the Mac is only just getting used to right-click, never mind middle click
[09:33] <jimd> mint: It's usually best to just jump right into your question rather than going for a lot of greetings in IRC.
[09:34] <mint> well i couldnt see any text
[09:34] <makey> openbox rocks
[09:34] <jimd> The latest Mac laptops still only have a single mouse button.  In fact on the recent one's I've seen the whole glidepoint is a big mouse button.
[09:35] <shampoo> no idea? anyone :D?  *sigh*
[09:35] <mint> ok, so is there a ubuntu distro/version that will work with my old gpu/monitor
[09:35] <jimd> mint: If you can't see text then you have a different problem.  We can certainly see yours.
[09:35] <mint> no i see now
[09:35] <richardcavell> jimd: Apple made a mouse that could recognize right clicks, but they didn't give it separate buttons.  They just made one big button that can recognize the right and left hand sides being touched
[09:35] <DougM> jimd: yeah but the bottom right corner of the trackpad is still a right click
[09:35] <rayno_b> Hello there - I have an Ubuntu server acting as a gateway for the internet.  Now at the moment, one user can use all of the bandwitdh of the internet which obviously stops all other users from accessing the internet at good speeds.  How can I control bandwidth per user (and maybe per port)?
[09:35] <jimd> mint: Try it.
[09:35] <mint> it doesnt work atleast the newest
[09:36] <richardcavell> rayno_b: can the others access the Internet at all?
[09:36] <mint> and i have few cds i dont want to waste them with trial and error
[09:36] <jimd> DougM: I think that may be a preference setting.  My friends all use [Command] (clover-key) to achieve a "right" click.
[09:36] <DougM> jimd: yeah thats what i use on my iMac
[09:36] <rayno_b> richard: everyone can see the internet fine yes, but if one user downloads something at really high speeds, it sometimes stops the internet for the rest of the users.
[09:37] <richardcavell> rayno_b: is it one user in particular or just whoever is downloading?
[09:37] <v4us> Hi. I have a problem with ALSA: My mic stop works? after kernel updating. I reinstal Alsa,. Any ideas?
[09:37] <jimd> mint: perhaps you could be a bit more specific.  What part doesn't work?
[09:37] <GarbledScreenAft> Ooops! I am using Jaunty and in Compiz settings ticked "blur windows" and not everything is as ghostly black rectangles. Please could someone point me as to how I can reboot and change this blur setting off even from the console. I have already reboot and tried "xfix" but to no avail. All I can do is alt-SysRq,R,E and Ctrl-alt_del to reboot once it has got to the desktop since nothing is ledgible.
[09:37] <rayno_b> richard: this is the case for everyone.
[09:38] <mint> graphics
[09:38] <mint> i have a VERY old monitor and gpu is crap
[09:38] <rayno_b> richard: I've read up on QoS.  It seems I should be doing something like QoS or something called "Traffic shaping"?
[09:38] <richardcavell> v4us: run alsamixer from command line and unmute anything that's muted
[09:38] <richardcavell> rayno_b: yes that's right
[09:39] <jimd> mint: there's only been one juncture that I recall where newer releases of X lost support for a number of older monitors.
[09:39] <richardcavell> rayno_b: it sounds like your gateway is functioning as it should by default
[09:39] <jimd> You'd have to revert to a pretty old Linux distro to use such an old version of X (the graphics subsystem).
[09:39] <mint> whats the command in xchat to give you my gpu hardware info
[09:39] <mint> that may help
[09:40] <richardcavell> mint: lspci | grep graphics
[09:40] <jimd> It would be far, far cheaper to buy a low-end video crd.
[09:40] <kraut> moin
[09:40] <jimd> Yeah you might try /msg -exec #ubuntu lspci | grep -i video
[09:41] <v4us> richardcavell: don't work
[09:41] <richardcavell> v4us: can you get into alsamixer?
[09:41] <jimd> But usually just issue the lspci | grep command in another xterm and paste it into the channel.
[09:41] <richardcavell> v4us: from a command line, within Terminal, type alsamixer
[09:42] <v4us> richardcavell: yes i can
[09:42] <richardcavell> v4us: and then go to capture
[09:43] <mint> my monitor is a little older than that
[09:43] <mint> http://www.lli.com/images/store/comp-networking/nec_monitor.jpg
[09:43] <richardcavell> v4us: press tab and you'll see
[09:43] <rayno_b> richard: can you point me to some instructions on the web to get "Traffic Shaping" sorted out?
[09:43] <richardcavell> rayno_b: mate, I'd just google it
[09:43] <rayno_b> richard: gmf
[09:43] <tavi_> how i change the resolution of the desktop?
[09:44] <DrZeus> hi all.  Question: when I send to print a document with cups-pdf, where is the pdf file created?  I mean, in which directory?
[09:44] <richardcavell> rayno_b: I just typed it into Synaptic and it's got something there
[09:44] <mint> what live cd should i get
[09:44] <richardcavell> What's gmf by the way?  Did he just insult me?  :/
[09:45] <ThreeNertia> So many acronyms these days, it's hard to keep up
[09:45] <rayno_b> richard: lol
[09:46] <rayno_b> richard: I would never insult anyone helping me :)  I was just making a type of *sigh* sound - I've been googling this all day and haven't found my answer yet.  That's where the 'gmf' came from :D
[09:46] <zhangjm> 我晕倒 怎么这么多人
[09:46] <DougM> zhangjm: is that really how you feel?
[09:47] <richardcavell> rayno_b: you can use trickle to shape bandwidth for users
[09:47] <n2diy> what happened to bogomips is lshw?
[09:47] <richardcavell> rayno_b: But there's shaperd in the repos
[09:47] <mint> this is my computer
[09:47] <mint> http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/5200Series/1008291/1008291nv.shtml
[09:48] <zhangjm> msg DougM ？
[09:48] <n2diy> ! bogomips
[09:48] <zhangjm> this where ？
[09:48] <rayno_b> richard: I'll check out trickle, thank you.
[09:48] <mint> Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 900 with up to 128 MB shared DDR memory
[09:48] <richardcavell> zhangjm: What is your question?
[09:48] <morris1> after the ubuntu update from yesterday night, i don't have sound anymore :( i have a creative labs x-fi soundcard
[09:49] <mint> sooo is there a version i can run
[09:49] <zhangjm> Are there any girls ah？
[09:49] <richardcavell> zhangjm: I know enough Chinese to know that is not what you asked before
[09:49] <morris1> also, there are no proprietary drivers anymore in the manager, although i was using a proprietary driver for my soundcard before
[09:50] <morris1> did the update reset this somehow?
[09:50] <DrZeus> hi all.  Question: when I send to print a document with cups-pdf, where is the pdf file created?  I mean, in which directory?
[09:50] <Ademan> whoa, so gnome-terminal can display unicode, awesome
[09:50] <zhangjm> richardcavell: I'm sorry
[09:50] <Ademan> DrZeus: no idea honestly, but probably somewhere in /var
[09:50] <phreck> gentlemen
[09:50] <Ademan> behold
[09:51] <phreck> is there a mirror to download the ropositories for offline use?
[09:51] <DrZeus> Ademan: omG
[09:51] <Ademan> DrZeus: find it?
[09:51] <n2diy> phreck: why would you need to DL from a mirror?
[09:51] <jimd> mint: The integrated Intel graphics should be fine.
[09:52] <DrZeus> Ademan: made a find search from console.  Didn't threw anything
[09:52] <zhangjm> richardcavell: not have chinese people ?
[09:52] <jimd> mint: where do you live?  What city is near you?
[09:52] <GarbledScreenAft> Does anyone know the command at bash for the compiz configuration manager?
[09:52] <om26er> is there a way to install some components of ubuntu on on drive and some on other
[09:52] <mint> colorado
[09:52] <mint> denver
[09:52] <zhangjm>  not have chinese people ?
[09:53] <phreck> n2diy: well. im not in norht america. so i was hoping there was an asian mirror
[09:53] <Ademan> DrZeus: maybe  find "$HOME" /tmp /var -iname '*.pdf' 2>/dev/null  ?
[09:53] <redbull> hi
[09:53] <mint> everything is close in colorado, im tabernash (winterpark)
[09:53] <Ademan> hrm, well i guess you wouldn't want to search all of $HOME for pdfs, but it might be in your home dir
[09:53] <jimd> I know there's a pretty good users' group in Boulder .... but have you looked for one in Denver?
[09:53] <phreck> n2diy: i wouild like to get my 8.10 machine and my 9.04 up to date, note they do not have internet connections nor is there a way to get them online
[09:53] <redbull> hi all
[09:53] <richardcavell> zhangjm: this channel is in English
[09:53] <Ademan> !cn
[09:53] <richardcavell> zhangjm: what do you want help with?
[09:53] <mint> point me to an iso
[09:53] <mint> so i can burn it
[09:54] <om26er> is there a way to install ubuntu on two separate drives to shift the load(my ssd is very slow)
[09:54] <indus> all those language specific channels are just dead
[09:54] <jimd> It might be much easier to haul your system to an installfest or meet up with someone at a users' group to help you in person.
[09:54] <zhangjm> THANK YOU ,I SEE
[09:54] <n2diy> phreck: just download whatever yoy can find!? Ubuntu isn't based in North America.
[09:54] <phreck> n2diy: is there a central repo?
[09:54] <phreck> thats what im getting at
[09:54] <phreck> one spot with everything
[09:54] <DrZeus> Ademan: nothing.
[09:54] <zhangjm> BYE
[09:54] <richardcavell> om26er: yes you can
[09:54] <GarbledScreenAft> Does anyone know the command at bash for the compiz configuration manager?
[09:54] <n2diy> phreck: yes, it is pre-installed.
[09:54] <jimd> mint: There are a vast number of old liveCD you could try ... if you work at it you could probably still find an 8 or 9 year old KNOPPIX.
[09:55] <richardcavell> om26er: what components do you wish to install elsewhere?
[09:55] <mint> god this sucks
[09:55] <phreck> n2diy: what?
[09:55] <Ademan> DrZeus: sorry, no idea then...
[09:55] <DrZeus> Ademan: thanks anyway
[09:55] <phreck> the repoi isnt pre installed
[09:55] <mint> im stuck in a linux mint live cd running in comatability mode
[09:55] <om26er> richardcavell: i don't know but have on one drive and the other half on the other
[09:55] <n2diy> phreck: yes, the repos are  pre-installed.
[09:55] <phreck> that url might be
[09:55] <Ademan> DrZeus: there's a small #cups here on freenode though, someone in there might know
[09:55] <phreck> n2diy: no.
[09:56] <DrZeus> Ademan: I checked the cups web admin and shows me that those pdf jobs were cancelled
[09:56] <DrZeus> pretty odd
[09:56] <indus> GarbledScreenAft:have you installed compiz settings manager?
[09:56] <om26er> richardcavell: help me man
[09:56] <Ademan> DrZeus: yeah interesting, maybe something interesting would be in /var/log/cups ?
[09:56] <n2diy> phreck: they are here, and have been for years, maybe what you want isn't supported by Ubuntu?
[09:56] <eXp`iRc|42485> salve
[09:56] <jimd> mint: I'd still suggest looking around for a $20 (or less) PCI VGA adapter and trying it.
[09:57] <mint> wait, why
[09:57] <phreck> n2diy: youve completely missed the point of my question. Take note, im not some noob.
[09:57] <mint> i got vga
[09:58] <n2diy> phreck: sorry, what's the question?
[09:58] <duckwars> is there some very standard command line video conversion program I should know about? One that doesn't use much cpu?
[09:58] <Ademan> duckwars: mencoder will do whatever you need
[09:58] <zhangjm> Sorry! Here is what Channel ?
[09:58] <phreck> Is there a way to download all of the repositories for offline use.
[09:58] <duckwars> Ademan: I can just aptitude for that?
[09:59] <JEEBsv> duckwars: the versions in repos are VERY old normally
[09:59] <phreck> i know that apt already has them all linked and whatnot
[09:59] <Ademan> duckwars: yep, i think the package is just mplayer though
[09:59] <phreck> i was wondering if there was a central repo for everything.
[09:59] <duckwars> you mean it won't have the video conversion software?  just the player?
[09:59] <Ademan> duckwars: no, if you install the mplayer package it should also install mencoder
[09:59] <zhangjm> who can tell me ,what is chanel
[09:59] <erUSUL> duckwars: ffmpeg and mencoder both in the repos
[10:00] <indus> zhangjm: this is the ubuntu english channel.What is the problem?
[10:00] <duckwars> well i just did sudo apt-get install mencoder, that'll work?
[10:00] <zhangjm> indus: you are english people?
[10:00] <GarbledScreenAft> how do I run ~/.config/compiz/compizconfig in bash?
[10:01] <indus> zhangjm: iam indian
[10:01] <jimd> We speak English.  Many of us are Americans (from the U.S.)
[10:01] <baobao> i am chinese
[10:01] <zhangjm> indus: oh,tankyou
[10:01] <indus> jimd: i doubt that
[10:01] <baobao> many of us are chinese (from china)
[10:01] <indus> yeah
[10:01] <zhangjm> indus: I'M chinese
[10:02] <Ademan> phreck: have you checked this out? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline
[10:02] <jimd> indus: Why, because it's 2:00am on our Pacific coast?
[10:02] <indus> zhangjm: yes,do you have any ubuntu question we can help you with?
[10:02] <indus> jimd: i meant,i believe there are people from across the world here
[10:03] <zhangjm> indus: oh ,tank you .my english is very Poor ....
[10:03] <om26er> indus is there a way to install ubuntu on two different drives to shift the load
[10:03] <zhangjm> indus: but I very like
[10:03] <fuzzybunny69y> hey everyone I am having problems playing videos in Ubuntu Karmic Koala. It seems as though all the codecs and things are installed but videos are not playing in Totem VLC or mplayer
[10:03] <indus> zhangjm: no problem ,just ask the question
[10:03] <indus> fuzzybunny69y: try #UBUNTU +1
[10:03] <n2diy> ! ch | zhangjm
[10:04] <n2diy> whoops
[10:04] <indus> olol
[10:04] <Ademan> om26er: what are you trying to put on another drive? you could have /home on a different drive from your / easily, that way programs would be on one drive and your personal data on another
[10:04] <indus> happens
[10:04] <Ademan> n2diy: it's cn
[10:04] <Ademan> !cn
[10:04] <n2diy> ! cn | zhangjm
[10:04] <zhangjm> indus: my System no saslauthd  ,you kan tell me why ?
[10:04] <Ademan> whoa, ubottu doesn't like to repeat itself, that's awesome
[10:05] <ThreeNertia> That was kind of neat
[10:05] <zhangjm> ubottu: you no welcom me ? you let me out ?
[10:05] <Trijntje> Hi all. I want to get hibernation to work on my desktop PC. Do you guys have any pointers on where to start?
[10:05] <om26er> Ademan: yes home on one drive and also /boot
[10:05] <indus> zhangjm: you are most welcome here man, ubottu is a bot
[10:05] <GarbledScreenAft> Can ANYBODY help me? I need to edit compiz settings file in bash to disable "window blur? please someone.
[10:06] <n2diy> zhangjm:  you are welcome here.
[10:06] <indus> zhangjm: saslauthd ? can you be more specific/clear
[10:06] <om26er> Ademan: i am rebooting and starting the live cd then guide me ok?
[10:06] <zhangjm> indus: hehe but I very like ,I use it three years
[10:06] <jimd> zhangjm: ubottu is a "bot" (robot) which acts as an interface to shared knowlege ... also known as a "knowlegebases" robot.
[10:06] <Trijntje> !hibernate
[10:06] <Trijntje> !hibernation
[10:07] <ThreeNertia> !suspend
[10:07] <Guest14761> morning... nybody knos how can I know the value of hhtp_proxy variable, plz?
[10:07] <zhangjm> You are very enthusiastic  THANKS
[10:07] <Ademan> om26er: sure, it's pretty simple though, anyone in here should be able to help
[10:07] <indus> zhangjm: what is saslauthd?
[10:07] <zhangjm> I would like to go I thank you for your
[10:07] <zhangjm> indus:  it is server
[10:07] <indus> zhangjm: ok
[10:08] <dgeary2> Guest14761: echo $http_proxy
[10:08] <Joe_> I just rebooted after system update grabbed a new kernel... now my lvm (/home) isn't detected...
[10:08] <n2diy> zhangjm: 73
[10:08] <indus> zhangjm: bye then
[10:08] <Guest14761> @dgeary2 : thnaks, I missed the $ (as usual, lol)
[10:08] <q0_0p> where can i get mkinitrd?
[10:08] <GarbledScreenAft> !compiz
[10:08] <Ademan> Joe_: that sucks... could lvm be blacklisted?
[10:08] <zhangjm> tanks bye my Friend .I go ubuntu-cn
[10:08] <Joe_> ademan blacklisted?
[10:09] <indus> :) bye
[10:09] <n2diy> zhangjm: GL
[10:09] <Ademan> q0_0p: try and run the program, it should be installed but if it's not it will tell you how to install it
[10:09] <Ademan> Joe_: yeah the lvm module
[10:09] <q0_0p> it doesn't even suggest me
[10:10] <Ademan> Joe_: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[10:10] <yeahuyen> hi can someone tell me how much memory my system should be using? currently my computer is using nearly 40% of it's memory
[10:10] <Ademan> q0_0p: does it say command not found?
[10:10] <q0_0p> i've make menuconfig make install make modules and make modules_install
[10:10] <q0_0p> yes
[10:10] <q0_0p> Ademan, yes
[10:10] <Joe_> ademan not understanding what you mean... and choosing the old kernel from grub doesn't work either
[10:10] <Joe_> ademan that file doesn't exist
[10:11] <zhangjm> I am here, do not speak. I see you talk. OK ?
[10:11] <Ademan> Joe_: hrm wierd
[10:11] <GarbledScreenAft> okay, reformatting.... back to windowsXP...
[10:11] <om26er> Ademan: now i am on live cd
[10:11] <Q_bie> hai
[10:11] <n2diy> yeahuyen: how could we do that, if we don't have access to your computer? Study "top".
[10:11] <n2diy> 0
[10:11] <yeahuyen> well just a general idea of what memory usage is normal for my computer
[10:12] <yeahuyen> how much memory does your computer use? mine seems very slow after install 9.04
[10:12] <Ademan> q0_0p: do you have the initramfs-tools package?
[10:12] <q0_0p> probably not let me try to install it
[10:12] <om26er> Ademan: how do i partition
[10:12] <q0_0p> Ademan, yes i do
[10:13] <q0_0p> Ademan, i have installed it already
[10:13] <yeahuyen> n2diy, my computer seems to be using alot of memory for some reason
[10:13] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: hi
[10:13] <n2diy> h777777777777777777777777
[10:13] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: to configure compiz, install compizconf-settings manager
[10:13] <Ademan> q0_0p: oh sorry, it's mkinitramfs that's in that package, i believe it should do what you want though
[10:14] <Ademan> q0_0p: what are you trying to do?
[10:14] <q0_0p> i compiled new kernel
[10:14] <Ademan> om26er: it's something you select when installing
[10:14] <q0_0p> and i need initrd.img
[10:14] <om26er> Ademan: and i am installing
[10:14] <n2diy> yeahuyen: ok, in top type ctrl+M, that tells you what is using up your memory, I bet it is Firefox?
[10:14] <Trijntje> Hi all. I want to get hibernation to work on my desktop PC. Do you guys have any pointers on where to start?
[10:15] <yeahuyen> n2diy, in top? what is that?
[10:15] <q0_0p> Ademan, mkinitramfs does not install
[10:15] <indus> q0_0p: dont you need to make an initrd image after compiling?
[10:15] <n2diy> yeahuyen: open a terminal, and type in "top". Top is top.
[10:15] <Ademan> q0_0p: you don't have mkinitramfs? it should be in the initramfs-tools package that i mentioned earlier
[10:16] <q0_0p> indus, im' already done compiling
[10:16] <DrZeus> Ademan: i found the issue; it was needed to create a folder called PDF, go get the files there
[10:16] <q0_0p> Ademan, my bad
[10:16] <Joe_> ok... this is very bad
[10:16] <Ademan> DrZeus: ouch that sucks
[10:16] <yeahuyen> n2diy, firefox seems normal
[10:16] <indus> q0_0p: Ademan:what ademan says,i believe you have to run command mkinitrd
[10:16] <Ademan> DrZeus: but glad you fixed it
[10:17] <Joe_> fsck no succh file or directory.... /dev/lvm-raid/lvm0 after kernel upgrade and reboot... how can I fix this without losing everything?
[10:17] <DrZeus> Ademan: it was supposedly going to be created automatically, but never happened.  Anyway, problem fixed :D
[10:17] <Ademan> om26er: you will get to a section about disk partitioning, when you're there let me know
[10:17] <om26er> Ademan: am there
[10:17] <tavi_> avi@tavi-desktop:~/Desktop$ sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.29-pkg1.run
[10:17] <q0_0p> indus, there is no command mkinitrd
[10:17] <tavi_> Verifying archive integrity... OK
[10:17] <indus> q0_0p: bbrr
[10:17] <n2diy> yeahuyen: what's normal? You've never even run Top before? How much mem is it using?
[10:17] <tavi_> Uncompressing NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86 185.18.29........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
[10:17] <DrZeus> im leaving; bless to all of you
[10:17] <FloodBot3> tavi_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <tavi_> nvidia-installer: Error opening log file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for writing (Permission denied); disabling logging.
[10:17] <tavi_> tavi@tavi-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.29-pkg1.run
[10:17] <tavi_> Verifying archive integrity... OK
[10:17] <tavi_> Uncompressing NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86 185.18.29........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
[10:17] <indus> tavi_: use paste bin for long messages
[10:18] <tavi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/235771/
[10:18] <Ademan> om26er: you'll want to select manual partitioning, and then hit next
[10:18] <om26er> Ademan: yes
[10:19] <yeahuyen> n2diy, i've never run top before..how mucgh memory is what using, firefox?
[10:19] <Ademan> om26er: you don't have any important data on any of the disks right? because they would be overwritten during this install
[10:19] <om26er> Ademan: np
[10:19] <indus> om26er: have backup?
[10:19] <pbn> Hi, since there is a security issue (DSA-1844-1), when will new 2.6.24 binary kernels be available for 8.04 LTS ?
[10:19] <om26er> indus: i have nothing on that drive
[10:19] <indus> k
[10:19] <indus> q0_0p: what kernel is this?
[10:20] <fotoflo> Invalid method in request \x80O\x01\x03   ---  im configuring apache SSL... any ideas?
[10:20] <q0_0p> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:20] <q0_0p> indus, <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:20] <n2diy> yeahuyen: more than 40% is taxing, 50% will slow you down to a crawl, and 60% will stop you.
[10:20] <Atomic_> !it
[10:21] <Ademan> om26er: well i don't have the installer in front of me, but you should allocate about 100mb (maybe more) for /boot on your faster drive, /home on whatever drive you want, and / on the remaining drive, with about 2x ram size for swap
[10:21] <^cheeky> hi, everytime i sign in gmail it never loads in standard view i always have to use load basic html any way i can fix this .. iam using ubuntu 9.04
[10:21] <yeahuyen> n2diy, thats what i seem to be experiencing, and ive also noticed that my system is not using any swap space...is that normal?
[10:21] <indus> q0_0p: so finished compiling,now you need the initrd to mount it
[10:21] <indus> q0_0p: hmm
[10:21] <om26er> Ademan: ok
[10:22] <q0_0p> indus, i found initrd program
[10:22] <q0_0p> but not a jaunty though for older ubuntu
[10:23] <n2diy> yeahuyen: no, Firefox has memory leaks. Quit top, then type killall firefox, and restart firefox, and you should be ok for about 24 hours.
[10:23] <indus> q0_0p: arent you supposed to change into /boot and make the initrd?
[10:23] <yeahuyen> n2diy, already my system is using 51.2 %
[10:23] <indus> q0_0p: thats how i remember doing it once
[10:23] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: Hi, thank you for responding. Sorry I just left the room to take a deep breath. Please understand this. I can't make out ANYTHING when Ubuntu Jaunty loads the desktop. I can get to bash after reboot. install conpizconf-settings in bash just gives an error. I think I am in the root folder. I am in the *dark* here since I am not farmiliar with the name of the text configuration file.
[10:23] <cmcasper> My people of ubuntu
[10:23] <yeahuyen> n2diy, is it normal for my computer to not be using any swap space?
[10:23] <cmcasper> give me luck
[10:23] <Ademan> good luck cmcasper
[10:23] <q0_0p> indus, yes i go into /boot dir and to initrd
[10:23] <cmcasper> Im gonna present my server to my teachers
[10:23] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: type in bash metacity --replace
[10:23] <q0_0p> indus, i just lacked the program
[10:24] <cmcasper> thanks ademan ;)
[10:24] <q0_0p> indus, but i found the tar
[10:24] <indus> q0_0p: right now what files do u se in /boot?
[10:24] <q0_0p> kernels
[10:24] <q0_0p> and initrd image
[10:24] <indus> mkinitrd -o initrd.img-<exact kernel name>
[10:24] <q0_0p> indus, i got the rest from here
[10:25] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: Window manager error : Unable to open X display
[10:25] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: aah of course
[10:25] <n2diy> yeahuyen: how do you know it isn't using swap?
[10:25] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: just 1 sec hold on
[10:25] <yeahuyen> n2diy, by looking at my system monitor.
[10:25] <yeahuyen> n2diy, maybe something to do with the partitioning when i installed?
[10:25] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: can u press ALT-F7?
[10:26] <innomen> i change themes in gnome, but when i goto add remove programs and type something in the search field it's white on bright yellow (the default background color with the new text color) i can not find any indication of any background being yellow in appearances, and i don't know how to phrase that in such a way that google returns useful results heheh, any suggestions?
[10:26] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: yes I can, but it does nothing... :-(
[10:27] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: what is the output of glxinfo | grep render
[10:27] <indus> !paste | GarbledScreenAft
[10:27] <n2diy> yeahuyen: ok, not familiar with that. Yes, maybe you messed up something  partitioning, sure you set it up as swap?
[10:27] <yeahuyen> n2diy, yeah, pretty sure
[10:28] <n2diy> yeahuyen: is this a test box, or production box?
[10:28] <Aayush> how to change fonts of gtk entry widget
[10:28] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: Error : unable to open display
[10:28] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: hmm
[10:29] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: what graphics card do u have? was the display working before??
[10:29] <yeahuyen> n2diy, im not totally sure what you mean but i believe production box sounds rigt
[10:30] <yeahuyen> n2diy, ive been using ubuntu for a couple of years now
[10:30] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: EVERYTHING was working PERFECTLY before I clicked the compiz settings manager "blur window" setting. The it all just fell to pieces...
[10:30] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: ok thanks for that info
[10:30] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: i need a minute
[10:31] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:32] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: look for the line composite and type disabled
[10:32] <tavi_> helppppppppppppp
[10:32] <tavi_> problem whit screen
[10:32] <Johnny2> help meh to :D
[10:32] <Aayush> how to change fonts of gtk entry widget
[10:32] <indus> tavi_: hi
[10:32] <indus> tavi_: what is the problem
[10:32] <Johnny2> i recently installed ubuntu, how do i remove windows from my hard disk?
[10:32] <tavi_> i have 640*480 and i cant set other
[10:32] <Joe_> ademan I think the problem is really mdadm, it doesn't seem to build the raid arrays that go into the lvm automatically...
[10:32] <yeahuyen> n2diy, nm, my computer seems to be using some swap, but my memory usage is outrageous
[10:33] <innomen> Is there a way to edit the background color of a specific text input field in gnome? Or to tell what setting applies to a given field? Would the add remove box be considered not part of my user and thuis immune to changes in theme/color?
[10:33] <Trijntje> how can i hibernate my pc? sudo pm-hibernate gives no reaction. Via the applet it just locks the screen
[10:33] <Johnny2> How do I remove windows?
[10:33] <tavi_> pls someone help?
[10:34] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: try this rm -rf ~/.config/compiz  ( type exactly as i typed)
[10:34] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: or copy paste it
[10:34] <innomen> tavi_: you using a graphics card? drivers all squared away?
[10:34] <tavi_> a?
[10:34] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: this should work
[10:34] <tavi_> i use nvidia 8600
[10:34] <minimec> Hi. I am still using 2.6.28-11 on jaunty, as I wasn't able to get nvidia-glx-180 working with newer kernels. Did anyone of you have success with nvidia-glx-180 and 2.6.28-13 and 2.6.28-14?
[10:34] <tavi_> and the driver is on
[10:34] <Johnny2> How do I remove windows pretty please?
[10:34] <indus> !who | tavi_
[10:34] <Trijntje> Johnny2: if you boot the live cd, you can destroy the windows partition and than add the free space to your ubuntu partition
[10:34] <tavi_> on sistem hardware dirvers
[10:34] <innomen> tavi: did you do the whole restricted driver thing?
[10:34] <tavi_> say activated and on
[10:34] <indus> Johnny2: you cant 'remove' windows, you need to partition drive
[10:35] <tavi_> what?
[10:35] <Johnny2> Trijntje I downloaded ubuntu
[10:35] <Johnny2> how do i format the partition that windows is on?
[10:35] <innomen> tavi: one moment, i just did this let em refresh ym memory
[10:35] <raykid_> Johnny2, backup your data and then use gparted
[10:35] <indus> tavi_: you have installed driver from nvidia, its not recommended method, go to main menu>system>administration>hardware drivers
[10:35] <raykid_> Johnny2, on the liveCD just open a terminal and type sudo gparted
[10:35] <Trijntje> Johnny2: have you installed ubuntu already?
[10:35] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: Sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf ... did not show any file in GNU NANO 2.0.9 ... will try next suggestion now.
[10:36] <Johnny2> raykid_ do you have any idea how i can backup my data to a usb? yeah i don't have the livecd i downloaded it and yes i am on ubuntu now
[10:36] <tavi_> and do what there?
[10:36] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: ya last suggestion just makes compiz use default config
[10:36] <tavi_> there is cheked
[10:36] <indus> tavi_: enable your driver
[10:36] <tavi_> is enabled
[10:36] <indus> tavi_: uncheck and recheck again
[10:36] <tavi_> i did that
[10:36] <raykid_> Johnny2, if your usb is big enough, just copy all data that you would like to have in the future to the usb
[10:36] <indus> tavi_: also, you need to uninstall the nvidia drivers to installed from nvidia site
[10:36] <tavi_> and notning
[10:37] <innomen> tavi: which driver? 180?
[10:37] <tavi_> i do not know
[10:37] <Joe_> could someone help me get mdadm to assemble the arrays properly on reboot.  I tried mdadm --examine --scan --config=mdadm.conf >> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf but that doesn't seem to work either
[10:37] <kdub> can you use swap partitions on two different hard drives at the same time?
[10:37] <Johnny2> I don't know how to do it hahah are you sure there's no way to remove the windows partition?
[10:37] <tavi_> i have that from nvidia site
[10:37] <tavi_> i tried sh..... and say and error
[10:37] <n2diy> GarbledScreenAft: sudo shouldn't be capatialized.
[10:37] <raykid_> Johnny2, there is a way
[10:38] <innomen> tavi: it should say in the tab he just sent you to
[10:38] <Johnny2> :D
[10:38] <raykid_> Johnny2, just copy all valuable data elsewhere before
[10:38] <tavi_> ?
[10:38] <Myrtti> Johnny2: how did you install ubuntu in the first placE?
[10:38] <Myrtti> Johnny2: with wubi?
[10:38] <tavi_> who?
[10:38] <innomen> tavi: system>admin>hardware it should say to the right of the driver, 173 or 180 or something
[10:38] <Johnny2> I downloaded ubuntu
[10:39] <Johnny2> using windows
[10:39] <Johnny2> but windows is for noobs and i want rid
[10:39] <Myrtti> Johnny2: and burned it on a installation disk?
[10:39] <Johnny2> nope
[10:39] <Myrtti> and installed from that cd?
[10:39] <Johnny2> installed it using windows
[10:39] <tavi_> i do not have any hardware there
[10:39] <Johnny2> DOWNLOADED IT AND INSTALLED IT USING WINDOWS :P
[10:39] <innomen> ahhh, ok one moment
[10:39] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: try this rm -rf ~<username>/.config/compiz
[10:39] <Myrtti> Johnny2: in that case, removing windows is not adviceable
[10:39] <Johnny2> whywhy
[10:39] <Johnny2> i hate it
[10:40] <Johnny2> wasting my disk space
[10:40] <Trijntje> Johnny2: in that case you can't remove windows just yet. You have to 'update' your installation to a 'real one'
[10:40] <n2diy> Johnny2:  chill man.
[10:40] <Myrtti> Johnny2: because your ubuntu is inside the partition you have your windows on
[10:40] <Johnny2> oh god
[10:40] <Johnny2> :/
[10:40] <innomen> tavi: first try goingt o add remove and type in nvidia, see if there is an nvidia drive that says 180
[10:40] <theuros> hi to all .. can someone help me with vsftpd configuration ..i have a web folder with many subfolders in it .. how can i choose wich users can see wich folder ?
[10:40] <indus> !vsftpd
[10:41] <indus> !ftpd > indus
[10:41] <tavi_> innomen: what
[10:41] <tavi_> ?
[10:41] <innomen> tavi: you know where add remove programs is?
[10:41] <Johnny2> Ok so how can i get all my applications and files and ubuntu on a usb so i can format my harddrive then boot from usb and install it all back how it was?
[10:41] <indus> tavi_: could you tell us how you installed the nvidia drivers?
[10:41] <tavi_> yes
[10:41] <tavi_> well
[10:42] <tavi_> noh how i tried?
[10:42] <marenz_> hello there
[10:42] <innomen> inuds: he said he didn't, said the list was empty
[10:42] <indus> tavi_: in ubuntu,the preferred method of installing software is from add/remove (its under mainmenu)
[10:42] <Trijntje> Johnny2: copy your entire home map to the usb disk
[10:42] <Myrtti> Johnny2: you need to backup the relevant data, /etc and /home first and foremost, and then basically reinstall with a CD.
[10:42] <Pirate_Hunter> im having disk error but have no clue why since the only thing i did was restart the system, how can i go identifying the problem?
[10:42] <n2diy> Johnny2: grsync
[10:42] <innomen> tavi: so goto add remove programs and type in nvidia, tell me if you see drivers coming up in the list of avilable things to download
[10:42] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: hello? did it work? rm -rf ~username/.config/compiz
[10:43] <tavi_> innomen:  system administration synaptic?
[10:43] <indus> tavi_: innomen : its an nvidia card i believe?
[10:43] <indus> tavi_: ya sure aynaptic is fine too
[10:43] <Johnny2> ok so copy /home and /etc to usb then download the ubuntu installer and put that on usb then what
[10:43] <innomen> indus: yes, his is and so is mine i just fought what he's doing like yesterday heheh
[10:44] <Johnny2> bash: grsync: command not found
[10:44] <indus> innomen: tavi_ he was trying to run the nvidia installer from website
[10:44] <marenz_> i accidently hit reset while I was updating
[10:44] <NET||abuse> hey guys,, just outu of curiousity i decided to get the Penumbra collection, trying to install it and i have this problem in something else aswell, not coming to me what exactly,k, the installer throws a warning message to the console "canberra-gtk-module"  and complains of failing to load modules due to "wrong ELF class: eLFCLASS64" for various libgvfsdbus.so and 2 or 3 others
[10:44] <tavi_> X.Org X server -- NV display driver
[10:44] <tavi_> This driver for the X.Org X server (see xserver-xorg for a further description)
[10:44] <Pirate_Hunter> im having disk error but have no clue why since the only thing i did was restart the system, how can i go identifying the problem?
[10:45] <tavi_> is marked as installed
[10:45] <marenz_> now, doing dpgk --reconfigure -a is broken, exec format error for one package
[10:45] <Johnny2> ok so copy /home and /etc to usb then download the ubuntu installer and put that on usb then what
[10:45] <indus> tavi_: restart system for driver to work properly
[10:45] <tavi_> but
[10:45] <indus> tavi_: i need to know, did you install driver nvidia ........ run?
[10:45] <n2diy> Johnny2: you wanna talk to me, you gatta use my nick.
[10:45] <tavi_> are there a lot of things about nvidia that aren't cheked
[10:45] <Johnny2> sorry n2diy
[10:46] <innomen> tavi: yes, look for 180
[10:46] <n2diy> Johnny2: apt-get install grsync
[10:46] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: Well I fould a file called "config" in in /home/username/.config/compiz/compizconfig# ... should i delete this file?
[10:46] <tavi_> for examplu
[10:46] <n2diy> Johnny2: sudo apt-get install grsync
[10:46] <tavi_> example
[10:46] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: yes
[10:46] <tavi_> NVIDIA binary kernel module source
[10:46] <tavi_> This package builds the NVIDIA XFree86 4.x/X.Org binary kernel module neede
[10:46] <FloodBot3> tavi_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:46] <tavi_> not installed
[10:46] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: delete whole compiz folder
[10:46] <Myrtti> Johnny2, n2diy http://popey.com/blog/2009/07/16/migrating-from-wubi-to-full-ubuntu-install/ found this just now
[10:47] <indus> tavi_: you pasted before some nvidia installer
[10:47] <Johnny2> n2diy E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:47] <Johnny2> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? sorry ima  noob
[10:47] <indus> tavi_: restart pc then come back
[10:47] <tash> can someone help me mount a usb hard drive in ubuntu, prudy please
[10:47] <indus> tash: does it show under lsusb command
[10:47] <n2diy> Myrtti: didn't realize he was playing with wubi.
[10:48] <tavi_> indus
[10:48] <indus> tavi_: yes?
[10:48] <indus> works?
[10:48] <tavi_> i have the driver
[10:48] <tavi_> downloaded from nvidia site
[10:48] <n2diy> Johnny, he may have another package manager open,? Synaptic?
[10:48] <tash> indus iĺl try it now
[10:48] <indus> tavi_: which driver? no dont install that one
[10:48] <tavi_> someone said to me to install that from recovery mode
[10:48] <Johnny2> whats wubi?
[10:48] <indus> tavi_: ok ill give you an idea> open synaptic, install nvidia-glx-180
[10:49] <Johnny2> whats wubi>
[10:49] <tavi_> sudo apt-get?
[10:49] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone can help me?
[10:49] <Johnny2> n2diy whats wubi?
[10:49] <tash> indus i don think so
[10:49] <innomen> indus: its dangerous making him do that through synamptic isnt it? add remove is better
[10:49] <indus> innomen: oh no not at all, synaptic is very easy,just more options , i want him to reinstall that driver
[10:50] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: okay. just deleteing "config" file made not change. I will delete whole compizconfig# folder.
[10:50] <indus> innomen: also, never used add/remove :)
[10:50] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: holy moly, not config file, compiz folder i said
[10:50] <tash> indus, if it doesn´t show up in lsusb how might i mount it
[10:50] <n2diy> Johnny, I don't know, that is why I don't play with it, but I "think" it as a way to install Ubuntu "in" Windows?
[10:50] <Joe_> ademan I don't know why it won't do it automatically, but I can at least get it working by manually activating the raid arrays and lvm when it fails to boot... irritating, but works
[10:50] <innomen> indus: when i installed 180 i did it through add/remove and it worked perfectly, but now that i'm looking at it in synaptic, there are lots of 180s unchecked, how he going to knwo which oen to initally grab?
[10:51] <indus> tash: say mount -a
[10:51] <tavi_> E: Nu pot găsi pachetul nvidia-glx-180
[10:51] <indus> tavi_: what?
[10:51] <n2diy> ! wubi
[10:51] <tavi_> cant find
[10:51] <tavi_> translated
[10:51] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: rm -rf ~home/username/.config/compiz
[10:51] <Johnny2> I don't think i installed with wubi
[10:51] <n2diy> yep
[10:51] <Johnny2> I have dual-boot windows xp and ubuntu
[10:52] <tavi_> say aplication addremove?
[10:52] <indus> innomen: actually, selecting 180 will auto select the rest anyway
[10:52] <n2diy> Myrtti: peace man.
[10:52] <Myrtti> Johnny2: when you choose which to boot to, is it Windows boot selector you choose with?
[10:52] <indus> tavi_: just open synaptic first
[10:52] <indus> tavi_: search for package nvidia-glx-180
[10:53] <dhaval> Hello.
[10:53] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: I deleted a file called config in the compizconfig# folder. I looked at it first. it had like 2 lines in it an didn't look interesting. It is however in the compizconfig# folder so it will surely get deleted when I delete the compizconfig# folder...
[10:53] <Johnny2> Myrtti i think it might be dos?
[10:53] <tash> indus, mount -a appeared to have no effect :(
[10:53] <tavi_> i jst isntalled something from add/remove software
[10:54] <innomen> tavi: was it nvidia 180?
[10:54] <tavi_> and at search nothing was found
[10:54] <indus> tavi_: if not there,you need to go to synaptic s settings>repositories  and enable the third line
[10:54] <tavi_> no
[10:54] <dhaval_> Hello
[10:54] <tavi_> somethign about hardare drivers
[10:54] <indus> tavi_: ENABLE proprietary drivers line
[10:54] <innomen> tavi: do what indus said
[10:54] <dhaval_> I was having a problem with ubuntu, some websites would not load
[10:55] <dhaval_> I am such a genius I solved it myself.
[10:55] <dhaval_> Do you want to know how?
[10:55] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: yes so after deleting press ALT F7
[10:55] <Myrtti> Johnny2: explain to me how did you install Ubuntu? did you download a piece of software in Windows, run it there, it asked you some questions and looked like something like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2715898569/
[10:55] <dhaval_> I changed distributions.
[10:55] <indus> dhaval_: sure
[10:55] <dhaval_> I got rid of ubuntu and installed openSUSE
[10:55] <indus> dhaval_: thats nice
[10:55] <tavi_> indus
[10:56] <indus> dhaval_: thanks for the info
[10:56] <dhaval_> And i still don't know why in both ubuntu 9.04 and fedora 11 the SAME websites did not work.
[10:56] <indus> tavi_: yes?
[10:56] <dhaval_> Could anyone please tell me what was wrong?
[10:56] <tavi_> you mean adminnistration -software sources?
[10:56] <Johnny2> myrti yeah that's what the interface was like
[10:56] <indus> tavi_: well ok that too is fine
[10:56] <Myrtti> Johnny2: then you've installed with Wubi
[10:56] <tavi_> and there what to do?
[10:56] <Johnny2> man im stupid :D
[10:57] <indus> tavi_: why dont you open synaptic package manager like i told you?
[10:57] <tavi_> cause i have in my language
[10:57] <iceberg-foundati> hi there
[10:57] <n2diy> sounds like a Debian issue?
[10:57] <indus> tavi_: aah ok tavi sorry
[10:57] <innomen> indus: :)
[10:57] <tavi_> so what to do?
[10:57] <indus> enable 3rd line
[10:57] <tavi_> from where
[10:57] <tavi_> ?
[10:57] <tavi_> what tab?
[10:57] <indus> tavi_: in first tab
[10:58] <tavi_> ubuntu programs?
[10:58] <tavi_> all are cheked
[10:58] <Johnny2> n2diy/Myrtti http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download thats where i got it from
[10:58] <Johnny2> is that wubi
[10:58] <indus> tavi_: ok then open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[10:58] <n2diy> Danger
[10:58] <n2diy> 1
[10:58] <tavi_> i tried that
[10:58] <tavi_> and say no package
[10:58] <tavi_> let try again
[10:58] <Johnny2> myrtti
[10:58] <indus> tavi_: which version of ubuntu is this???
[10:59] <erUSUL> !enter
[10:59] <InCubaTor> anyone care to help a noob get myfirewire audio interface workin...? it is a focusrite saffire pro 26 interface. i have installed ffado and jack. but i dont get it workin right
[10:59] <Aayush> how to change fonts of gtk entry widget
[10:59] <Myrtti> Johnny2: "the windows based 'wubi' installation"?
[10:59] <Johnny2> did you click the link lol
[10:59] <indus> !patience | indus
[10:59] <indus> :)
[10:59] <innomen> indus: we should have asked that first
[10:59] <innomen> lawl
[10:59]  * innomen places a bet
[11:00] <Johnny2> myrtti just the DL link on the ubuntu website
[11:00] <tavi_> 804
[11:00] <tavi_> long term
[11:00] <indus> tavi_:oh god
[11:00] <tavi_> and in terminal
[11:00] <innomen> lmaop
[11:00] <tavi_> E: Nu pot găsi pachetul nvidia-glx-180
[11:00] <tavi_> tavi@tavi-desktop:~$
[11:00] <FloodBot3> tavi_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:00] <innomen> i win!
[11:00] <cookie> My laptop speakers are mute. Headphones do work but the integrated speaker don't utter a sound. Does anyone have any experience on that? Tried a couple of things without luck
[11:00] <Johnny2> myrtti http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[11:00] <indus> tavi_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[11:00] <greengiant> how can i get a list of current block devices pluged into my computer i.e harddrives, cd drives, etc....
[11:00] <n2diy> Johnny, no, that is the real deal.
[11:00] <Johnny2> yeyeyeye
[11:00] <tavi_> nvidia-glx-new este deja la cea mai nouă versiune.
[11:00] <Johnny2> thats what i got
[11:00] <Johnny2> dual boot with windows xp
[11:00] <indus> tavi_: translate
[11:00] <greengiant> i can see them all listed in /dev/ but i need to get more info. like what kind of device it is from the terminal
[11:00] <tavi_> that mean is already at newest version
[11:00] <InCubaTor> JACK: unable to mlock() port buffers: Cannot allocate memory
[11:00] <Johnny2> so how do i get rid of windows xp
[11:01] <indus> tavi_: hmm
[11:01] <innomen> greengiant: ad remove programs, hardware/device manager, in that list should be a device manager type thing
[11:01] <Johnny2> n2diy is the only way to format entire hdd and reinstall
[11:01] <indus> tavi_: ok now i want you to go to synaptic package manager
[11:01] <cmartin0> how do i boot into init 3?
[11:01] <tavi_> i say to install that driver and install from recovery console
[11:01] <indus> tavi_: also, right now dont you have a display?
[11:02] <Fzza3a_> how r , all ?
[11:02] <tavi_> right now i have 640*480
[11:02] <Myrtti> Johnny2: and what did you do after you downloaded the disk image?
[11:02] <n2diy> Johnny, no, you have the option to manually format, and that should be the default, but it isn't.
[11:02] <innomen> Fzza3a_, : fine, made at my color settings
[11:02] <indus> tavi_: listen to me,open synaptic package manager
[11:02] <tavi_> ok
[11:02] <tavi_> opened
[11:02] <indus> searh nvidia-glx-new
[11:02] <Johnny2> myrtti/n2diy i partitioned 10gb to ubuntu
[11:02] <tavi_> finded
[11:02] <indus> tavi_: right click and reinstall package
[11:03] <tavi_> an are a lot of things there
[11:03] <indus> tavi_: no problem, just select nvidia-glx-new
[11:03] <indus> reinstall
[11:03] <tavi_> ok
[11:03] <tavi_> ok
[11:03] <tavi_> now?
[11:03] <indus> tavi_: restart system
[11:03] <agent_j> does anyone here know how to get SDL working with anjuta? i can't get it to link to the SDL library.
[11:03] <Myrtti> Johnny2: burned the disk image to a cd/made a bootable usb stick?
[11:04] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: how do i switch OFF compiz? i deleted all the files you said i should and to no avail>
[11:04] <n2diy> Johnny,myrtti, and how did you do that, the suggested partitions, or did you manually partition?
[11:04] <innomen> indus: should you have told him to apply the changes first?
[11:04] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: metacity --replace
[11:04] <indus> innomen: oh crap
[11:04] <indus> :)
[11:04] <Myrtti> n2diy: I'm still not convinced he's not installed with wubi
[11:04] <innomen> he left rather abruptly
[11:04] <Johnny2> what
[11:04] <Johnny2> myrtti
[11:04] <innomen> think he just powered down? lol
[11:04] <indus> ok i believe he will understand what reinstall means
[11:04] <Johnny2> i gave you the link
[11:04] <Johnny2> where i downloaded from
[11:04] <innomen> i hope so
[11:04] <indus> np we can wait and see
[11:04] <Johnny2> but the interface you showed me on that image was what i had when i installed
[11:05] <cookie> cookie: hi
[11:05] <Myrtti> Johnny2: if you download from there, you get a disk image. What did you do with the disk image, did you burn it to a disk or make a bootable usb stick?
[11:05] <indus> problem is, he has tried to download some new drivers from website,which is always messy and not recommended
[11:05] <innomen> indus: can you help em with my tiny color issue?
[11:05] <innomen> :)
[11:05] <n2diy> Myrtti: sounds like a virgin install, if he/she is partitioning?
[11:05] <indus> innomen: well can try
[11:05] <innomen> indus: yea, i gathered
[11:05] <Johnny2> burn it to hard disk
[11:05] <Myrtti> n2diy: wubi asks for how much space you want to give to it as well
[11:05] <Fzza3a_> innomen: wht men ?
[11:05] <Myrtti> Johnny2: burn it on *hard* disc? not cd?
[11:06] <innomen> indus: i changed themes, everything is all pretty, but the color instind the search baox for add remove is still not matching the theme, how would i find the color that applies to a given box?
[11:06] <Myrtti> n2diy: it can look like "partitioning"
[11:06] <Johnny2> myrtti i didn't burn anything to cd or usb drive
[11:06] <indus> Myrtti: n2diy:hi do u know why a wubi install would want to connec t to internet to install?
[11:06] <Johnny2> I didn't use anything external myrtti
[11:06] <indus> innomen: hhm seach for lateast version of theme then, or its probably missing some libs
[11:06] <fotoflo> ok,  i am at my wit's end. soemone please help me! I broke apache and nothing is showing up in logs
[11:06] <indus> innomen: happens to me too
[11:07] <tavi_> back
[11:07] <innomen> indus: ahh, right on
[11:07] <Myrtti> Johnny2: if you boot to windows, and check from application manager or whatever, what you can use to uninstall windows software from, is there an entry for removing ubuntu as well?
[11:07] <n2diy> Myrtti: umm, ok. so you are "installing Ubuntu," creating partitions, all under Windows, that sounds like a new way to spell trouble.
[11:07] <MerlinW> hi
[11:07] <indus> tavi_: hi ,u reinstalled the package (click on apply ) ? before restart?
[11:07] <Johnny2> IDK MAN
[11:07] <tavi_> yes
[11:07] <Johnny2> im so confused
[11:07] <innomen> indus: the theme in question is blue joy, but i'll tinker a bit, tavi has priority
[11:07] <Johnny2> im gonna cey
[11:07] <Johnny2> cry*
[11:07] <Myrtti> n2diy: that's what wubi does
[11:07] <FloodBot3> Johnny2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:08] <indus> tavi_: and ? what is the result?
[11:08] <tavi_> nothing
[11:08] <tavi_> same resolution
[11:08] <Myrtti> n2diy: it makes a loopback file inside the ntfs partition and you can uninstall it with windows
[11:08] <n2diy> Myrtti: and how well does it do it?
[11:08] <indus> tavi_: also sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[11:08] <Johnny2> i already uninstalled service pack 3 through windows
[11:08] <Johnny2> but i couldn't figure out how to uninstall windows completely
[11:08] <MerlinW> n2diy, wubi is a "virtual machihe"
[11:08] <MerlinW> n
[11:08] <Myrtti> MerlinW: not really
[11:08] <indus> tavi_: before that.... i need output of glxinfo | grep render
[11:09] <tavi_> indus i could installed that in synaptic
[11:09] <indus> tavi_: paste it.
[11:09] <indus> tavi_: yes sure from synaptic
[11:09] <tavi_> indus i alreadt isntealld nvidia settings from terminal
[11:09] <tavi_> befrore pasting taht youa sked
[11:09] <indus> ok so when you type nvidia-settings in terminal what happens
[11:09] <tavi_> direct rendering: Yes
[11:09] <tavi_> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
[11:09] <tavi_>     GL_NV_depth_buffer_float, GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_depth_clamp,
[11:09] <tavi_>     GL_NV_vertex_program3, GL_NVX_conditional_render, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap,
[11:10] <FloodBot3> tavi_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:10] <indus> tavi_: does the nvidia config tool open?
[11:10] <Myrtti> tavi_: how many times do we have to tell you to use pastebin?
[11:10] <innomen> Myrtti, WTF is paste bin?
[11:10] <Beyecixramd> Myrtti: don't be so hard on him
[11:10] <tavi_> yes
[11:10] <Myrtti> n2diy: I wouldn't use it to install a permanent Ubuntu
[11:10] <indus> Myrtti: i say sorry on his behalf
[11:10] <tavi_> open a config tool
[11:10] <Myrtti> !pastebin > innomen
[11:10] <indus> tavi_: use paste for all output from terminal
[11:10] <tavi_> ?
[11:10] <n2diy> Myrtti: would you use it as a demo?
[11:11] <Myrtti> n2diy: at best
[11:11] <indus> tavi_: in terminal type nvidia-settings
[11:11] <MerlinW> Myrtti, its making a virtual partiton (image file). The different from other VM, Wubi is not emulate the hardwares
[11:11] <indus> did a window open?
[11:11] <tavi_> i tiped
[11:11] <tavi_> yes
[11:11] <tavi_> i laready say
[11:11] <tavi_> already
[11:11] <indus> tavi_: so adjust resolution from there
[11:11] <MerlinW> the point: wubi sux
[11:11] <tavi_> ok
[11:11] <tavi_> let me found
[11:11] <MerlinW> :D
[11:11] <Myrtti> MerlinW: wubi is a method of installation, it's not a virtual machine though.
[11:12] <Johnny2> ok so how should i go about making ubuntu my only operating system
[11:12] <tavi_> weeeeeeelllll
[11:12] <tavi_> it's a littele problem
[11:12]  * h1n1 infects everyone
[11:12] <MerlinW> Myrtti, but not using real partition
[11:12] <Myrtti> Johnny2: read that link I gave you earlier
[11:12] <tavi_> the resolution dont allow me to see all the window
[11:12] <tavi_> :)
[11:12] <Johnny2> the wubi one
[11:12] <jezi22> guys, someone here knows a good bash tutorial?
[11:12] <Johnny2> but what if i dont have wubi
[11:12] <Johnny2> i might fuck up my system?
[11:12] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: Yes, wubi sux, but it's better a dualboot computer than a windows-only computer, dont you think? =D
[11:13] <indus> tavi_: what resolution you want?
[11:13] <h1n1> jezi22 : http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[11:13] <Beyecixramd> Johnny2: not likely
[11:13] <Myrtti> Johnny2: a) mind your language b) doing backups is never a bad idea
[11:13] <MerlinW> Beyecixramd, ur my man:D
[11:13] <Johnny2> sorry about the lanbuage
[11:13] <tavi_> 640*480
[11:13] <Johnny2> language
[11:13] <tavi_> and the window is hugeeee
[11:13] <indus> tavi_: do u have lcd monitor?
[11:13] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: Arch Linux here only =3
[11:13] <MerlinW> Ubuntu here only
[11:13] <indus> tavi_: try set it to 1440*900 ?
[11:13] <MerlinW> and a vmware XP
[11:13] <MerlinW> :D
[11:14] <Johnny2> If i wanted to format hard drive what would be the best way to go about it?
[11:14] <tavi_> maaaaan
[11:14] <innomen> indus: wow
[11:14] <tavi_> i can't
[11:14] <tavi_> doesn't shom me any 1024*800 let's say
[11:14] <innomen> indus: he cant make any changes the buttons are hidden
[11:14] <tavi_> i can't select nothing
[11:14] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: no VM here =D in fact, Fedora + Arch Linux on dual boot
[11:14] <innomen> inuds: is there a way to change resolution from the tyerminal?
[11:15] <tavi_> at xrandr in terminal don't show me that resolution
[11:15] <indus> innomen: aah type xrandr
[11:15] <MerlinW> BellinXFelon, i need a win for some works unfortunattly
[11:15] <indus> !nvidia | tavi_
[11:15] <tavi_> only 640*480 and 320*230
[11:15] <indus> tavi_: what monitor do u have?
[11:15] <MerlinW> Beyecixramd, , i need a win for some works unfortunattly :(
[11:15] <tavi_> an lg flatron
[11:15] <indus> innomen: all options greyed out for tavi_?
[11:15] <innomen> indus: neato, thanky
[11:15] <MerlinW> TAB powa:D
[11:16] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: aaah, sad. I promised not to touch Windows never again =3
[11:16] <innomen> indus: its still not seeing his card *shrugs* i dont know version 8
[11:16] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: maybe someday we will be really free, not depending on windows ~
[11:16] <indus> innomen: his card is working fine,rendering 3d is enabled, some xorg config problem i suppose
[11:16] <Johnny2> ok so how should i go about making ubuntu my only operating system
[11:17] <MerlinW> Beyecixramd, i have a imac too instead "win" :D
[11:17] <Beyecixramd> Johnny2: Install it from CD
[11:17] <innomen> indus: or like you're saying something about the monitor?
[11:17] <n2diy> Myrtti: has your laundry died?
[11:17] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: i don't like apple, in fact i hate apple.
[11:17] <Johnny2> I dont have it on cd :(
[11:17] <tavi_> so any ideea?
[11:17] <indus> innomen: ya might need to manually set resolution
[11:17] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: but i hate more Microsoft than Apple.
[11:17] <Johnny2> Beyecixramd: i dont have it on cd
[11:17] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: Anything else is better than Windows, even FreeFOS xD
[11:17] <Beyecixramd> FreeDOS*
[11:18] <Myrtti> n2diy: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:18] <MerlinW> Beyecixramd, osx is good...
[11:18] <tavi_> at xrandr in terminal the same resolution is shown
[11:18] <deany> gah, finally got java 64bit FF plugin working..  and all i had to do was grab the bin and link the plugin, why couldnt the pkg manager do that
[11:18] <Beyecixramd> Johnny2: Download it and burn
[11:18] <Johnny2> ok
[11:18] <indus> tavi_: in terminal type nvidia-xconfig
[11:18] <n2diy> Myrtti: 10-4
[11:18] <innomen> Beyecixramd: dont forget usb sticks
[11:18] <indus> tavi_: lets see if that works
[11:18] <Johnny2> Beyecixramd: how can i backup what i have on ubuntu now and get it back on once ive formatted harddrive and reinstalled ubuntu
[11:18] <Beyecixramd> innomen: oh, true, but i prefer a CD than a US
[11:18] <Beyecixramd> USB*
[11:18] <indus> tavi_: can u give me a screenshot of nvidia-settings ?
[11:18] <innomen> Beyecixramd: i refuse to use CDs on principal, same reason i dont have a diskette drive
[11:19] <Beyecixramd> Johnny2: Get an external HDD, or burn it to a DVD, something like that, IDK
[11:19] <innomen> :)
[11:19] <indus> !PASTE | tavi_
[11:19] <tavi_> well yes
[11:19] <Beyecixramd> innomen: USBs are OK too =3
[11:19] <indus> tavi_: aah use imagebin.org
[11:19] <MerlinW> Johnny2, pack tar/gz ur datas (for the permissions), and backup somewhere
[11:19] <Johnny2> Beyecixramd: how can i do that :D drag /home and /etc to my 8gb usb?
[11:20] <MerlinW> Johnny2, DVD?
[11:20] <Beyecixramd> Johnny2: Only /home i dont recommend you copying /etc
[11:20] <tavi_> i do nto handle imagebin
[11:20] <innomen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/235823/
[11:20] <Johnny2> how can i back up what ive got on my os now so i can use it once ive formatted just drag and drop?
[11:20] <cO> dgfdgd
[11:20] <Dimitree> Help ! My DVB-S2 drivers dissapeared after the last update :( i tryed to compile them again and install them again but there is no dvb folder in /dev/ :(
[11:20] <Beyecixramd> Johnny2: Also, copy the only files you really need, not the entire /home partition
[11:20] <MerlinW> Johnny2, DVD, USB, Network, another HDD, etc... use ur fantasy:D
[11:21] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: Network? you mean internet?
[11:21] <Johnny2> im so confused
[11:21] <Ademan> Johnny2: i would recommend tar.bz2-ing your home directory personally
[11:21] <Beyecixramd> Ademan: is right
[11:21] <indus> tavi_: imagebin/org  at bottom go to paste your image
[11:21] <Johnny2> so i can just drag and drop my applications and files and then once ive reinstalled drag and drop them back?
[11:21] <MerlinW> Beyecixramd, no, i mean local network, but if he has fast connection...:D
[11:21] <indus> imagebin.org
[11:21] <tavi_> http://imagebin.org/57606
[11:21] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: LAN then. Only possible if you have more than 1 PC =D.
[11:22] <Johnny2> Ok I'm gonna try this, somebody please tell me if I'm doing it wrong. step 1 download ubuntu cd installer, step 2 drag all the applications/files in home that i want to usb step 3 install ubuntu step 4 drag those applications and files onto desktop?
[11:23] <MerlinW> Johnny2, yes, but if u backup other directories (usr/local, etc, whatever) u have to pack tar or gz or both, for the right permissions
[11:23] <tavi_> indus
[11:23] <tavi_> ?
[11:23] <tavi_> any ideea
[11:23] <tavi_> ?
[11:23] <MerlinW> Beyecixramd, LAN is a network too, right?:D
[11:23] <FloodBot3> tavi_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:23] <indus> tavi_: yes?
[11:23] <Johnny2> uhh gibberish to me sorry im a noob what exactly do you mean?
[11:23] <tavi_> well?
[11:23] <tavi_> any ideea?
[11:23] <indus> tavi_: well , wait
[11:23] <tavi_> well i am a little hungry
[11:24] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: in fact, LAN is only network, and internet is called WAN xD i thought you meant WAN instead of LAN (like uploading your data to a hosting service provider)
[11:24] <DJones> Johnny2: How did you install ubuntu originally? was it dual boot or via wubi?
[11:24] <Johnny2> dual boot
[11:24] <MerlinW> Beyecixramd, concentrate to the "N" word:D
[11:24] <indus> tavi_: please paste output of cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:25] <Johnny2> Djones: dual boot
[11:25] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: OH NO! the "N" word D= xD
[11:25] <gecko1> i wish there was an ubuntu cereal
[11:25] <Myrtti> DJones: thank you. I think he has wubi, but I'm not sure anymore.
[11:25] <MerlinW> Johnny2, tar -cf backup.tar  /home /etc /usr/local etc...
[11:25] <Beyecixramd> gecko1: ubuntu cereal? lol
[11:25] <gecko1> ubuntu mmm
[11:25] <DJones> Johnny2: Right, if it had been wubi, i'd seen a link that would have helped you, but its not going to be the right one for dualboot
[11:25] <tavi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/235828/
[11:26] <innomen> whats the diffrence between a compiz theme and a gtk 2.x theme?
[11:26] <Johnny2> tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[11:26] <innomen> i just want me computer theme to match the plastic, black, instead of looking like cream candy :)
[11:26] <innomen> if i shake it real hard will that help?
[11:26] <indus> tavi_: what monitor do u have? LCD ?
[11:26] <tavi_> well yes
[11:26] <tavi_> i think is lcd
[11:26] <tavi_> or plasma
[11:26] <Johnny2> my brains going to xplode
[11:26] <MerlinW> tavi_, sorry, whats the problem?
[11:26] <DJones> Myrtti: If it had been wubi, pop.ey's link for conversion would have been ideal
[11:26] <tavi_> on description on site says licquid crystals
[11:26] <Beyecixramd> Johnny2: :O take it easy, man
[11:27] <iceroot> what tools like apticron,fail2ban and logcheck are recommend to have a save server?
[11:27] <indus> tavi_: main menu>system>preferences>screen resolution
[11:27] <indus> tavi_: try there?
[11:27] <gecko1> breathe johnny2
[11:27] <Myrtti> DJones: which I gave already. I still think it's wubi, but since there's no clear answer on if it is, I'm stumped and have to move on
[11:27] <tavi_> show me the only two i can
[11:28] <indus> tavi_: hmm ok
[11:28] <indus> tavi_: ok wait 1 min
[11:28] <troythetechguy>  I crated a shared folder in Vbox (Ubuntu host w/ XP guest). I want to have the shared file which is located on the host, be the "my Documents" folder for XP (guest).  Any concerns I should be aware of with this set up?
[11:28] <tavi_> 640*480 and 320 * 240
[11:28] <tavi_> ok
[11:28] <MerlinW> Johnny2, "Removing leading `/' from member names"  its ok, skip it
[11:28] <Beyecixramd> troythetechguy: you have to setup a network between your VM and your host. try google
[11:29] <MerlinW> Johnny2, its working, that is just a comment
[11:29] <Johnny2> :S
[11:29] <Johnny2> its not doing nothing
[11:29] <Johnny2> double negative, whats it supposed to be doign?
[11:29] <Johnny2> doing***
[11:29] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: i tried what you suggested but the desktop is still not right. When windows appear, they are black and permanaently make that part of the scrren black. I have booted of the Jaunty LiveCD since I don't really understand bash and how to do stuff quickly. Perhaps you could tell me what I can do to reset compiz from this position.
[11:29] <MerlinW> Johnny2, what is nothing?:)
[11:30] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: just disable it and go backto metacity type metacity --replace
[11:30] <tavi_> well
[11:30] <MerlinW> Johnny2, r u use sudo, right?
[11:30] <Johnny2> the command
[11:30] <Johnny2> just said
[11:30] <InCubaTor> i have problems with jackd. anyone knows how to handle it with a firewire audio interface
[11:30] <tavi_> i am a little hungry
[11:30] <gecko1> have some ubuntu
[11:30] <Johnny2> oops
[11:30] <Johnny2> it still only comes up with tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[11:30] <indus> tavi_: me too, sorry tavi, i think you need to google it or someone else here may help you
[11:30] <ohir> Beyecixramd: afaik vbox supports host fs sharing natively thru its kernel module
[11:31] <tavi_> indus
[11:31] <Beyecixramd> ohir: yup, it does
[11:31] <Timmy2Tall> waddup bitches
[11:31] <tavi_> but by triond install what i have dowloaded from nvidia site whit recovery console?
[11:31] <indus> tavi_: have you tried upgrading to a newer version? or maybe manually adding the resolution in xorg conf?
[11:31] <bazhang> Timmy2Tall, watch the language
[11:31] <Timmy2Tall> So why does this place have so many people in it?
[11:31] <tavi_> adding manualyy the resolution?
[11:31] <tavi_> no
[11:32] <indus> tavi_: well,you can try it,but it might make your display not start at all
[11:32] <tavi_> so what i do?
[11:32] <indus> !nvidia
[11:32] <ohir> troythetechguy: it should work if you first do this sharing and then points windoze to use it as your winhome (docs) folder
[11:32] <bazhang> Timmy2Tall, this is ubuntu support; do you have a support question
[11:32] <jado> hi, i have an internet problem, sometimes after a while, it seems that the dns goes down so i can't browse anymore. Just now it went down and i can't ping www.google.com but i'm still connected (unknown host)
[11:32] <MerlinW> Johnny2, try this: sudo tar -czvf backup.tar /home
[11:32] <Beyecixramd> jado: are you behind a router?
[11:32] <Timmy2Tall> you trying to tell me all 1000 of these ppl need support?
[11:32] <Beyecixramd> Timmy2Tall: not really
[11:32] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: Each time I try metacity --replace it give an errors saying that it can't open the display or something.
[11:33] <indus> tavi_: do you have any onboard graphics card?
[11:33] <tavi_> yes
[11:33] <bazhang> Timmy2Tall, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:33] <tavi_> i hope
[11:33] <th0r> jado: that happens to me sometimes. In my case it is caused by a weak wifi signal...my computer is disconnected from the wifi, but doesn't know it
[11:33] <jado> Beyecixramd: a home router yes, if i reboot it it's going to work, but i'm trying to find another solution than always rebooting
[11:33] <jado> th0r: i'm connected with an ethernet cable
[11:33] <ohir> troythetechguy: just bear in mind that docs folder is never your true winhome as windoze heavily uses its default place for many things, ie TEMP folders bookmarks and so on
[11:33] <indus> tavi_: you could also try installing nvidia-glx instead of nvidia-glx-new
[11:34] <th0r> jado: well...that takes care of THAT excuse
[11:34] <Beyecixramd> jado: try reconnecting your cable instead of rebooting the router
[11:34] <tavi_> indus
[11:34] <tavi_> thsi is what we have done?
[11:34] <Beyecixramd> jado: maybe your DHCP server is not working well
[11:34] <indus> tavi_: we installed glx-new, there is a package called glx which too is fine
[11:34] <tavi_> but performance?
[11:35] <indus> tavi_: a little older, but i have used it,works fine , you could try
[11:35] <tavi_> lower?
[11:35] <jado> Beyecixramd: the problem is on every computer of the house, not just mine (windows XP/vista or ubuntu)
[11:35] <tavi_> well
[11:35] <indus> tavi_: no
[11:35] <indus> tavi_: ia play quake 4 so it works fine
[11:35] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: is there a shortcut key to start the console. then I can run the console from the desktop and type metacity --replace!
[11:35] <tavi_> we could try fix this ?
[11:35] <Beyecixramd> jado: then the problem is probably coming from your router, the DHCP server, try to change the router
[11:35] <MerlinW> I wrote a little Ati Catalyst auto install script: http://mwo.sytes.net/index.php?cid=137
[11:35] <jado> Beyecixramd: what's with the DHCP ? i do have an ip address; the problem is more on the DNS right ?
[11:35] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: right now you have a GUI or no?
[11:35] <tavi_> let's try edit that xorg?
[11:35] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: or just some black screen
[11:35] <Beyecixramd> jado: DHCP is the system the router uses to assign a IP in your internal network (LAN)
[11:35] <MerlinW> this download the newest catalyt driver, compile and install
[11:36] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: I have booted from the liveCD and have a PERFECT GUI...
[11:36] <indus> tavi_: well,wrong values might damage your monitor, find out what the monitor is, then try
[11:36] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: aah no start regular system
[11:36] <tavi_> i know what's the monitor
[11:36] <tavi_> say on him
[11:36] <tavi_> man
[11:36] <jado> Beyecixramd: yes, and i do have an ip address so the problem is not coming from there (i'm well connected on internet as i'm talking to you right now) it's just that i can't solve domain names
[11:36] <tavi_> modfy that xorg or installing glx ?
[11:36] <indus> tavi_: hmm i suggest modify xorg
[11:36] <Beyecixramd> jado: Does your router resolve DNSs from a preconfigured IP?
[11:37] <om26er> virtualization on intel atom is it possible
[11:37] <tavi_> well let install that glx
[11:37] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: with live cd,how did you delete that compiz folder?
[11:37] <tavi_> let's say
[11:37] <tavi_> and after install that glx can i install the glx -new
[11:37] <tavi_> ?
[11:37] <om26er> !virtualization
[11:37] <jado> Beyecixramd: what do you mean? from a computer with a fixed IP?
[11:37] <Beyecixramd> om26er: of course it is, it will be slow, but yes, it is possible
[11:37] <tavi_> or will do same problems
[11:37] <tavi_> ?
[11:38] <indus> tavi_: will same problems
[11:38] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: okay I restart the pc and it is going to the desktop but it generally becomes black within about 10 seconds after getting to the desktop so I won't know what windows are on or what I have typed.
[11:38] <Beyecixramd> jado: have you checked the DNS settings on your router?
[11:38] <tavi_> indus
[11:38] <tavi_> check this out
[11:38] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: are you typing from another machine?
[11:38] <Johnny2> MerlinW: its doing all this junk does that mean its working lol
[11:38] <om26er> Beyecixramd: tell me a good n lite client
[11:38] <tavi_> on nvidia settings in terminal
[11:38] <Timmy2Tall> HEY I GOT BANNED IN OFF-TOPIC
[11:38] <indus> tavi_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[11:38] <non7top> привет всем
[11:38] <Johnny2> MerlinW: what is that command you gave me doing?
[11:38] <Dator> Hello
[11:38] <Beyecixramd> om26er: QEMU is highly recommended
[11:38] <Myrtti> Timmy2Tall: and you're about to be banned here
[11:38] <Timmy2Tall> I need unbuntu support
[11:38] <bazhang> Timmy2Tall, lose the caps
[11:38] <Dator> Is this where i can get help using kubuntu?
[11:38] <Myrtti> Timmy2Tall: then ask
[11:38] <Timmy2Tall> I just did
[11:39] <indus> Dator: #kubuntu
[11:39] <bazhang> non7top, #ubuntu-ru for Russian
[11:39] <Timmy2Tall> I got banned from unbunto off topic
[11:39] <om26er> !kvm
[11:39] <Timmy2Tall> i need to be un banned
[11:39] <Johnny2> merlinW?
[11:39] <tavi_> at xserve display settings say 640*380 crt .....and i do not have a crt i have a lcd
[11:39] <jado> Beyecixramd: i don't see such a setting in the router config
[11:39] <MerlinW> Johnny2, its packing the files and directories with own permission settings in a backup.tar file
[11:39] <non7top> bazhang: спасибо, то что надо было
[11:39] <iceroot> Timmy2Tall: please stop spamk, just ask a ubuntu-related question
[11:39] <bazhang> non7top, /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:39] <Johnny2> oooh thanks babe
[11:39] <indus> tavi_: ok i have 1 option which can work
[11:39] <MerlinW> np:)
[11:39] <Timmy2Tall> okay, how is firefox made?
[11:39] <Beyecixramd> jado: then it's autoresolved, definitely the problem comes from the router
[11:39] <Johnny2> merlinW: can i talk to you in private
[11:39] <om26er> Beyecixramd: ubottu says kvm is preferred what u say
[11:39] <iceroot> Timmy2Tall: what?
[11:39] <indus> tavi_: in terminal type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:39] <MerlinW> come
[11:40] <Johnny2> !pm MerlinW hi
[11:40] <Johnny2> fail
[11:40] <jado> Beyecixramd: yes but why the problem goes away when i reboot it ?
[11:40] <jrib> Timmy2Tall: ask a *support* question please
[11:40] <anawim> don't feed the troll
[11:40] <tavi_> so what is it?
[11:40] <Beyecixramd> om26er: QEMU is lighter, WAY lighter
[11:40] <MerlinW> ubottu, hm?:D
[11:40] <om26er> ok
[11:40] <tavi_> ok
[11:40] <tavi_> now?
[11:40] <om26er> Beyecixramd: ok
[11:40] <om26er> qemu
[11:40] <MerlinW> silly bot
[11:40] <Beyecixramd> lol, why?
[11:41] <indus> tavi_: what is first option? press ok
[11:41] <om26er> !qemu
[11:41] <indus> tavi_: see the options carefully
[11:41] <jado> Beyecixramd: well i'll just reboot
[11:41] <tavi_> first option use tampon interface for cadres in nucleu
[11:41] <tavi_> i can't trans;late right
[11:41] <tavi_> cause is in my language
[11:42] <indus> tavi_: hmm select no
[11:42] <MerlinW> Ubuntu - Ati Catalyst auto install script - http://mwo.sytes.net/index.php?cid=137
[11:42] <CptnAwesome> hi folks, im running ubuntu with openbox (lxde) and i need to add the repositories for openoffice3, any idea how i can do this via command line or what package i need to install to do it with a gui (prefered option)
[11:42] <Beyecixramd> jado: OK
[11:42] <tavi_> next is automate detect keyboard arrangement
[11:42] <indus> press enter
[11:42] <tavi_> yes or no
[11:42] <tavi_> has no ok
[11:42] <indus> no
[11:42] <jrib> CptnAwesome: 3 is the default version of openoffice.org in jaunty.  Are you using a different version?
[11:42] <tavi_> now has a long thing
[11:43] <gecko1> what do you guys suggest as security on 9.04?
[11:43] <MerlinW> tavi_, did u tried the restricted driver? system/administration/restricted - enable
[11:43] <tavi_> whit use "fr" and use "de"
[11:43] <jrib> gecko1: use the repositories for your software installation
[11:43] <tavi_> and has ok
[11:43] <indus> tavi_: just press enter
[11:43] <CptnAwesome> jrib, nope, jaunty is my poison. 'apt-get install openoffice' didnt do anything, whats the package name?
[11:44] <indus> tavi_: tab and enter
[11:44] <tavi_> keyboard arrangement gb and has ok
[11:44] <indus> tavi_: you from gb?
[11:44] <indus> tavi_: its great britain
[11:44] <tavi_> nu
[11:44] <jrib> CptnAwesome: umm, openoffice.org
[11:44] <tavi_> but i understand
[11:44] <indus> tavi_: u using us english?
[11:44] <indus> tavi_: ok
[11:44] <iceroot> CptnAwesome: to find the correct name you can use apt-cache search openoffice
[11:44] <tavi_> and has no other option
[11:45] <indus> tavi_: ok select defaults
[11:45] <CptnAwesome> ohh thanks, thats going to be a handy one to know, thanks iceroot.
[11:45] <tavi_> MerlinW: is nothign what you have said there
[11:45] <indus> tavi_: hmm iam not sure thiswill work
[11:45] <tavi_> indus
[11:45] <tavi_> and now has about xorg and sun
[11:45] <indus> MerlinW: he needs help with resolution, cant go higher, drivers are installed and enabled
[11:45] <indus> tavi_: press enter
[11:46] <tavi_> preseed
[11:46] <tavi_> now
[11:46] <indus> tavi_: press CTL_ALT_BACK
[11:46] <tavi_> keyboard model
[11:46] <indus> space
[11:46] <tavi_> pci05
[11:46] <Johnny2> JOHNNY VS WINDOWS
[11:46] <tavi_> only option hitted ok
[11:46] <indus> tavi_: just forget it, press ctl -c
[11:46] <hthd> wow ubuntu.
[11:46] <indus> tavi_: close terminal
[11:46] <hthd> fuck pricey.
[11:47] <CptnAwesome> o.0 my framebuffer maxed out with 'apt-cache search openoffice' =(
[11:47] <tavi_> now?
[11:47] <bazhang> hthd, watch the language
[11:47] <tavi_> what
[11:47] <tavi_> ?
[11:47] <indus> tavi_: hmm cant help more
[11:47] <hthd> fuck you too.
[11:47] <tavi_> well
[11:47] <indus> tavi_: sorry
[11:47] <tavi_> ?
[11:47] <Beyecixramd> !language
[11:47] <tavi_> lets try install that glx
[11:47] <indus> :) ok
[11:47] <tavi_> and then documentation about glx new
[11:47] <indus> tavi_: i be back in 10 min
[11:48] <tavi_> maibe we found a solutioan latter
[11:48] <tavi_> ok
[11:48] <indus> tavi_: have you tried upgrading to a newer ubuntu?
[11:48] <tavi_> i must eat too
[11:48] <tavi_> no
[11:48] <tavi_> this is a long term release
[11:48] <MerlinW> tavi_, http://pastebin.com/d5cd61fb
[11:48] <tavi_> and i like it
[11:48] <GarbledScreenAft> Does anyone know how to restart gnome in Jaunty?
[11:48] <indus> tavi_: try then?
[11:48] <MerlinW> look the resolution override lines
[11:48] <tavi_> upgrading?
[11:48] <tavi_> no
[11:49] <indus> MerlinW: this is his paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/235828/
[11:49] <jrib> GarbledScreenAft: log out and log back in but why?
[11:49] <indus> ok i gtg
[11:49] <MerlinW> indus, ok, but i write a sample, how he can adding custom resolutions
[11:49] <wers> how do you play amr files? :)
 /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:49] <MerlinW> indus,  http://pastebin.com/d5cd61fb
[11:49] <tavi_> so how can i add?
[11:50] <H_M-Laptop> Does anyone know what font WMII uses by default?
[11:50] <MerlinW> tavi_, here the sample (xorg.conf) http://pastebin.com/d5cd61fb
[11:50] <tavi_> i think he can;t fidn taht is a lcd
[11:50] <indus> MerlinW: thanks a lot man
[11:50] <indus> MerlinW: very very nice
[11:50] <tavi_> well
[11:50] <tavi_> so what i need to do?
[11:50] <MerlinW> tavi_, this sample for LCD 22", with 1680x1050 , but u can modify
[11:51] <H_M-Laptop> MerlinW, you wouldn't happen to play Nexuiz would you?
[11:51] <tavi_> so install that glx or do what ytou have said?
[11:51] <MerlinW> H_M-Laptop, dunno what is it
[11:51] <GarbledScreenAft> jrib : indus has been helping me up to now with my problem of I can't see my desktop (black) since selecting "blur window" in compiz settings manager. I can't ACTUALLY believe that this can't be fixed.
[11:52] <H_M-Laptop> MerlinW, never mind.. I know someone else who goes by nearly the same name.. It's a game by the way, opensource FPS.
[11:52] <jrib> GarbledScreenAft: restart nautilus
[11:52] <jrib> GarbledScreenAft: wait.  By desktop you mean the place with icons or all of X?
[11:52] <H_M-Laptop> Just google it if you want to know more
[11:52] <aaronvarghese> who is the troll
[11:52] <MerlinW> tavelram_, you can skip glx, u will have time for that if the others are working
[11:52] <MerlinW> tavi_, you can skip glx, u will have time for that if the others are working
[11:52] <tavi_> i cnat resize windows at all  too
[11:52] <MerlinW> damn TAB
[11:53] <tavi_> ok
[11:53] <tavi_> so what to do
[11:53] <tavi_> ?
[11:53] <MerlinW> tavi_, show ur actual conf
[11:53] <tavi_> what?
[11:53] <MerlinW> xorg.conf
[11:53] <MerlinW> show me
[11:53] <tavi_> where i find it?
[11:53] <MerlinW> with the new modifications
[11:54] <tavi_> i didn't  modify
[11:54] <Dator> Hello does anyone know how to fix my boot problem???
[11:54] <Johnny2> is there a keyboard shortcut for paste
[11:54] <bullgard4> The Integrated circuit  'Realtek ALC202' is described as an "AC'97 compatible audio codec having several stereo and mono inputs and outputs." Why does my laptop computer need an additional IC 'ALI 5451' (an ALSA mixer)?
[11:54] <bullgard4> Johnny2: Yes. Ctrl+V.
[11:55] <MerlinW> ok., i gave u a setting sample, right? u have to insert in the resolution overrides (gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[11:55] <Johnny2>  what
[11:55] <tavi_> where i find that xorg.conf?
[11:55] <Johnny2> merlinW
[11:55] <MerlinW> tavi_,  ok., i gave u a setting sample, right? u have to insert in the resolution overrides (gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[11:55] <Dator> !grub
[11:55] <GarbledScreenAft> Please could someone tell me where the configuration file for compiz is so that I can swtich the "blur window" setting off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:55] <Johnny2> merlinw: does this mean its funushed? /home/johnnysullivan/Videos/
[11:55] <Johnny2> /home/johnnysullivan/.bash_logout
[11:55] <Johnny2> /home/johnnysullivan/backup.tar
[11:55] <Beyecixramd> GarbledScreenAft: try CCSM
[11:55] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: u still stuck?
[11:55] <MerlinW> tavi_,  if u done, show me (pastebin), and if its ok, restart the system
[11:55] <Beyecixramd> !flood
[11:55]  * richardcavell has been playing Half-Life again
[11:55] <Maximo> question: How / where do I get (install) a Multimedia plugin package that include a microsoft media server (SMM) protocol source?
[11:56] <Beyecixramd> indus: what's wrong with him?
[11:56] <tavi_> MerlinW: i opened the file
[11:56] <tavi_> do not show me any resolution
[11:56] <asger> I need helt getting flash to work in my two browsers opera and firefox
[11:57] <Beyecixramd> asger: Install the flash from the adobe site, choose *.deb package
[11:57] <indus> Beyecixramd: GarbledScreenAft: well he selected some blur settings in compiz,and messed dispplay, so i asked him to delete compiz folder from home
[11:57] <nnull> i have a machine that requires legacy nvidia drivers, .run wants to be run without x server running, how would i do this? eg reboot into cli only mode? one of the inits or ???
[11:57] <tavi_> i do not see any line whit resolutions to modify
[11:57] <indus> rm -rf ~username/.config/compiz
[11:57] <Beyecixramd> !language
[11:57] <jrib> !nvidia > nnull
[11:57] <iceroot> nnull: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:58] <iceroot> nutzer_: before switch to a shell (ctrl + alt + f2)
[11:58] <tavi_> let me show some print screens from there?
[11:58] <nnull> thx iceroot
[11:58] <Maximo> question: How / where do I get (install) a Multimedia plugin package that include a microsoft media server (SMM) protocol source?
[11:58] <MerlinW> tavi_,  http://pastebin.com/d5cd61fb
[11:58] <iceroot> nutzer_: sorry, wrong nick
[11:58] <CptnAwesome> is there any benifit using apt-get source and compiling versus apt-get install ???
[11:58] <MerlinW> tavi_,  here is the sample... 20x
[11:58] <GarbledScreenAft> Okay so I have been on this forum for 2 and  a half hours. I NEED TO KNOW WHERE the compiz setting is! Please.
[11:58] <jrib> CptnAwesome: no, not if you aren't making modifications
[11:59]  * Beyecixramd AFK.
[11:59] <vigo> Maximo: You may need to enable Restricted in the repositories.