[05:44] <Dr_willis> _R_,  disable the service.. set your browser back to not using the proxy
[05:44] <dick> how do i get to my cd drive from terminal?
[05:44] <dick> sorry for all the newb q's
[05:44] <cafuego> dick: cd /media/cdrom0
[05:44] <arrenlex> dick: mount /dev/hdc && cd /media/cdrom
[05:44] <_R_> SilenceGold, ok, thankX
[05:44] <cables> dick, usually /media/cdrom0
[05:44] <dick> thank you
[05:45] <_R_> SilentDis, , ok, thankX
[05:45] <b0r15> so how do I mount the hard drive?
[05:45] <EdibleEgg> cables, ok thanks a lot, been searching everywhere for an answer
[05:45] <SilentDis> _R_, check out what Dr_willis said as well.  that's probably the easiest way.  I remember reading over a howto on privoxy once though.
[05:45] <dick> that did it
[05:45] <dick> thanks all
[05:45] <Xenguy> b0r15: you should be able to mount that: mount -t ntfs /dev/hd__ /mnt
[05:45] <Xenguy> ?
[05:45] <_R_> SilentDis, ok, i'll take a look. thanks
[05:46] <stooges> hi.. i followed the instructions on how to install ati driver, it apparently say i dont have desktop x?
[05:46] <cafuego> dick: note that whilst you're cd'd onto the cd, you can't eject it.
[05:46] <stooges> so basically i'm stuck
[05:46] <b0r15> got this:
[05:46] <b0r15> mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /mnt busy
[05:46] <theilliniguy> I can't update 6.06 to 6.10 -  I keep getting stopped with 2 errors reading "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)"
[05:46] <Dr_willis> stooges,  clarify  - what guide did you follow? and whats the exact error?
[05:47] <cables> arrenlex, SilentDis, I read the generic article, and I have to say I disagree: going from -386 to -686 reduced my CPU temperature by 5 degrees centigrade. It seems like -generic has those optimizations, though, because I get the smp and the lower temperature...
[05:47] <SilentDis> _R_, found the full howto on privoxy and tor usage: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PrivoxyHowto
[05:47] <cafuego> theilliniguy: dapper isn't 6.10, so you're security source is incorrect.
[05:47] <stooges> i am able to run the ati-driver installation.. but the problem is apparently it kept saying i am unable to run desktop x.. i cant seem to properly install it even though i went through the process.
[05:47] <SilentDis> !envy | stooges
[05:47] <ubotu> stooges: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[05:48] <arrenlex> cables: Yes, -generic is a combination of all options from all kernel subarches
[05:48] <arrenlex> .
[05:48] <cables> arrenlex, so they're modules or something?
[05:48] <theilliniguy> cafuego i dont know what to do - thats the error reported when i follow the ubuntu/help instructions for updating
[05:49] <WhatAmI> DCC SEND "KLJLKJSLKJSFKJSKLJSHFSJKHFFKLHF"
[05:49] <SilentDis> cables, yep.  all autoswitching depending on architecture.  from what I understand, it does increase some load/boot times by tiny fractions of a second, but overall, it's just easier on maint and use.
[05:49] <cafuego> theilliniguy: edit /etc/aot/sources.list and comment out the dapper lines.
[05:49] <cafuego> ooh, shiny
[05:49] <arrenlex> cables: I don't know how the kernel works. It talks to me if I type uname -r, and it says friendly things in the vtis if I type while pressing the sysrq key, and that's all I know about it. :)
[05:49] <nytejade> how do I fix these packages with broken dependencies?
[05:49] <nytejade> Update manager is complaining about them. Should I just reinstall them?
[05:49] <_R_> SilentDis, good, solve it, i really down in the dumps!
[05:49] <fiveiron> hmmm.... universe and multiverse servers down?
[05:50] <cafuego> SilentDis: Note the quit message
[05:50] <steelb> how do i get beryl to let me see the tops of my windows?
[05:50] <macd> fiveiron, what country are you in? and what repo mirror are you using?
[05:50] <cafuego> SilentDis: Services scan for sploit kiddies and auto-k-line.
[05:50] <Malachi> I'm not really a Vista fan, but I do admire their...I dunno, widget panel. Is there a good one for Ubuntu?
[05:51] <fiveiron> macd, USA...  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[05:51] <Malachi> I know about GDesklets, but it's not doing it for me.
[05:51] <SilentDis> cafuego, ahh :)
[05:51] <arrenlex> Wow. That is a lot of quit messages.
[05:51] <cables> !gdesklets | Malachi
[05:51] <ubotu> Malachi: gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[05:51] <Xenguy> Malachi: oh gawd
[05:51] <fiveiron> getting lots of 404 errors when i try to apt-get update
[05:51] <macd> fiveiron, they do seem a touch slow, but they are not down
[05:51] <Ironman273_> cables: while I wait for the download, where can I find ATI drivers for Ubuntu?
[05:51] <Malachi> gDesklets seems to be buggy and lacking.
[05:51] <kristallpirat> /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found < any hints on that?
[05:51] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: This must be what your weeds feel like...
[05:51] <theilliniguy> cafuego - getting this now "Error: no write permission for file "/etc/aot/sources.list"
[05:51] <cables> !ati | Ironman273_
[05:51] <ubotu> Ironman273_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:51] <cables> !envy | Ironman273_
[05:51] <Malachi> Xenguy: yes?
[05:51] <ubotu> Ironman273_: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[05:51] <macd> fiveiron, are you behind a webcache? or something similar?
[05:51] <cafuego> theilliniguy: ... as root, of course.
[05:51] <nanotube> hello... what is the best application for taking of screenshots in UBUNTU GNOME?
[05:51] <Xenguy> Malachi: smith will suffice - yada yada
[05:51] <Malachi> ?
[05:52] <cables> nanotube, there's one builtin, or you can use GImp
[05:52] <fiveiron> macd, gah i'm stupid... yes... lol.  thanks
[05:52] <theilliniguy> cafuego - total newb here - how do i get root?
[05:52] <Ironman273_> cables: thank you
[05:52] <cables> tonyyarusso, this is slow business
[05:52] <SilentDis> nanotube, the built in screen shot app (triggered by hitting print screen) usually does pretty well.  did you have a special need?
[05:52] <Stu_2> (what's up with the bans?  am I missing something that is topic-related?)
[05:52] <cafuego> theilliniguy: put 'sudo' in foront of any command :-)
[05:52] <arrenlex> Stu_2: Yeah, they changed the topic to "you have to be this geeky to ride #ubuntu".
[05:52] <theilliniguy> cafuego - aha - i have seen that b4!
[05:52] <tonyyarusso> cables: Yeah....one day maybe I'll have something semi-automatic rather than retyping by sight.  lol.
[05:53] <kristallpirat> /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found < any hints on that?
[05:53] <SilentDis> Stu_2, script kiddies getting the almighty boot of god treatment :)
[05:53] <Stu_2> ahh...
[05:53] <cables> Stu_2, there's a problem with a lot of routers that can be exploited to kick people off IRC channels. Someone did it, and now tonyyarusso is directing them to another channel for help in fixing the problem.
[05:53] <macd> tonyyarusso, time for eggdrop, eh ;)
[05:53] <nanotube> thanks...can you take a screenshot just of part of my screen..? the default one is not suitable for my needs
[05:53] <tonyyarusso> macd: hehe
[05:53] <Stu_2> I see, thanks.  Just curious...
[05:53] <cafuego> macd: It's never a good idea to op an exploitable bot.
[05:54] <macd> cafuego, true, but freenode itself has eggdrops
[05:54] <cables> tonyyarusso, sounds like a pretty easily detectable thing... just look for the DCC bit, and look for anyone who gets disconnected directly after...
[05:54] <cafuego> macd: services, not eggdrops
[05:54] <macd> cafuego, not according to staff, and I do know the difference b/t services and eggdrops.
[05:55] <Hostis> hi anyone awake ?
[05:55] <cafuego> macd: What, nick|chanserv are eggdrops?
[05:55] <dimeotane> pretty slow around suddenly
[05:55] <macd> no those are services, obviously.
[05:55] <cables> dimeotane, there's no netsplit...
[05:55] <SilentDis> Hostis, I'm sleep-helping people... does that count?  O.o :)
[05:55] <kristallpirat> /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found < any hints on that?
[05:55] <macd> anyways, back to ontopic, eh ;)
[05:55] <arrenlex> What's an eggdrop anyway?
[05:55] <Phenax> Hello, what does `uname -m` return on your guys Ubuntu?
[05:55] <theilliniguy> cafuego - list seems blank...?
[05:56] <cafuego> kristallpirat: what did you do?
[05:56] <SilentDis> !eggdrop | arrenlex
[05:56] <Phenax> on your guys x86 ubuntu I add
[05:56] <ubotu> arrenlex: eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.17-3 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[05:56] <arrenlex> Phenax: i686
[05:56] <kristallpirat> try to run truecrypt
[05:56] <arrenlex> I see!
[05:56] <arrenlex> And they are bad?
[05:56] <SilentDis> arrenlex, depends on their use, like any tool :)
[05:56] <cafuego> kristallpirat: Not compiled for your current OS version. Get source, build.
[05:56] <xamox> how can I see what users are connecting via samba?
[05:56] <Hostis> need to ask something. What is the difference of 6.10 server and 6.06 LTS ?
[05:57] <kitche> Hostis: 6.10 is upto date
[05:57] <cafuego> arrenlex: They've been known to have exploits, which is unfortunate if they have op status on a channel.
[05:57] <kitche> Hostis: for versions
[05:57] <macd> Hostis, LTS is considered to be more stable, and is supported long term, also commercially by canonical.
[05:57] <SilentDis> Hostis, 6.06 is an LTS (long term support) release, and will be supported for... 5 years I think on servers.  6.10 is the normal release schedule, and won't have as long of a support life
[05:57] <joebob777as7> I'm a newb to linux and I'm using suse and I really like it but I hear such great things about ubuntu so i installed feisty and it looks sweet and i got it up and running and my video drivers installed but it just seems that apt and synaptic pale in comparison to smart and yast... is it just me? do i need to play around with it more? what are your thoughts?
[05:58] <Hostis> but if i want to run a counter strike server. What should i use ?
[05:58] <arrenlex> joebob777as7: Wow... what did punctuation ever do to you?
[05:58] <Xenguy> joebob777as7: yeah, I think that is retarded
[05:58] <nanotube> is there some similar application to snagit screenshot taker in ubuntu?
[05:58] <cafuego> joebob777as7: it's just you. ;-)
[05:58] <Khellendros> http://whatyouseewhenyoudie.ytmnd.com
[05:58] <macd> Hostis, anytime you need something for use in a"production" enviornment 6.06.01LTS is the way to go.
[05:58] <cafuego> nanotube: apps -> accessories -> screenshot
[05:58] <macd> nanotube, do you want a screenshot of just your active window?
[05:59] <cafuego> nanotube: Alternatively, `import' or `gimp'.
[05:59] <kidbuntu> nid help. pictures won't load up when i search in google image
[05:59] <joebob777as7> wow i didn't know we needed to use proper grammer here... my fiance is nagging me to come cuddle with her, so i'm typing from the hip as fast as possible
[05:59] <Xenguy> joebob777as7: go :-)
[05:59] <nanotube> no I need something which takes screenshot of just part of my screen...
[05:59] <dimeotane> Khellendros: hah... youre on acid
[05:59] <kidbuntu> need help. pictures won't load up when i search in google image
[06:00] <cafuego> dimeotane: Khellendros spamming?
[06:00] <macd> nanotube, take your screenshot using printscreen, then crop it with the gimp.
[06:00] <dimeotane> reminds me of a kitchy 3d postcard
[06:00] <joebob777as7> wow thanks for nothing... seems like the suse guys are nicer anyway.
[06:00] <Cyde> Which version of the kernel is on the 6.10 Live CD?
[06:00] <Xenguy> joebob777as7: good riddance
[06:00] <nanotube> the default screenshot application i=does not meet my needs
[06:00] <kidbuntu> Cyde?
[06:00] <macd> nanotube, read above^^
[06:00] <kidbuntu> Cyde: you talking to me?
[06:00] <cafuego> nanotube: gimp -> file -> aquire -> screenshot
[06:00] <Dr_willis> joebob777as7,  it pays to read/learn apt very well.
[06:01] <dimeotane> joebob777as7: you tell em... a little competition is healthy
[06:01] <Ru-ku> Hey, does anyone know where the application folders are kept?
[06:01] <Cyde> kidbuntu: I suppose so .. I was just asking the channel.
[06:01] <nanotube> macd: I knoe that...by my college ( from windows world ) is not able to it and he said that in windows  BLA BLA :-))
[06:01] <Xenguy> joebob777as7: basically your analysis is flawed IMHO
[06:01] <dimeotane> suse vs ubuntu... bringiton
[06:01] <macd> nanotube, screenshots are the same in gnome and windows,
[06:01] <theilliniguy> cafuego trying to edit that file - command line brings this up and its a blank file - File: /var/tmp/sources.list.XXHBZAxx
[06:01] <zero88> HELP! would anyone here know why i am not able to send ANY packets over my wireless ?? i am able to recieve packets but i canot send a one.please help!
[06:01] <cafuego> Invariable people prefer what they're used to.
[06:01] <macd> indeed
[06:01] <Cyde> Anyone know which version of the kernel is on the 6.10 Live CD?
[06:02] <nanotube> macd: he used http://www.softwarecasa.com/pprod/212401dd.htm?gclid=CJ3sr4fbw4oCFSnKggodDGiXlw
[06:02] <arrenlex> theilliniguy: What are you trying to do?
[06:02] <cafuego> Cyde: 2.6.17 I think
[06:02] <LordKeiden> Cyde, 2.6.17
[06:02] <macd> nanotube, well, how hard is it really? to just hit print screen and crop it in gimp?
[06:02] <Cyde> Crap, I need 2.6.18 :-/
[06:02] <kristallpirat> cafuego: when I try to build I get : "Error: Kernel source code is incomplete - drivers/md/dm.h not found."
[06:02] <Dr_willis> >hic<
[06:03] <macd> kristallpirat, you need to install the kernel-dev package
[06:03] <cafuego> kristallpirat: Did you install the prerequisite kernel-headers package?
[06:03] <Cyde> (My mobo is new, and the drivers for the Jmicron SATA and Marvell Ethernet aren't in the 2.6.17 kernel)
[06:03] <Cyde> So ... any ideas?
[06:03] <Xenguy> Dr_willis: to the parefect operating system!
[06:03] <cafuego> Cyde: which marvell ethernet?
[06:03] <Cyde> Do I have to wait for another Ubuntu release, or can I get a Live CD with an updated kernel somehow?
[06:03] <theilliniguy> arrenlex - truying to ujpdate 6.06 to 6.10 - when it tires I get this error twice: "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)"
[06:03] <nanotube> macd: no its not hard but I said that windows is crap and that in linux you have something similar also...now I have to proove it :-))
[06:03] <Dr_willis> >hic< >hic<
[06:03] <Cyde> cafuego: Marvel 88E8056 PICe
[06:03] <Ru-ku> Anyone???
[06:03] <Cyde> The mobo is the GA-965P-S3
[06:03] <cafuego> Hmmyes.
[06:04] <cafuego> Cyde: That's why i bought a GA-945-S3 ;-)
[06:04] <Cyde> cafuego: Heh, yes, hindsight is 20/20 :-/
[06:04] <cafuego> Cyde: You could try a 7.04 - but note it's not stable - yet.
[06:05] <Cyde> cafuego: A 7.04 Live CD?
[06:05] <cafuego> Cyde: Don't have 'em yet?
[06:05] <cafuego> Cyde: You could customise the edgy cd with the feisty ekrnel I suppose
[06:05] <Cyde> Hrm, what's unstable about it?  Any reason I couldn't just use it to install and then downgrade other stuff as necessary?
[06:05] <kidbuntu> when i'm searching images in google, pictures won't load. but my load images is enabled.
[06:05] <Cyde> cafuego: Hrmm ... now is there any way to do that in Windows ..
[06:06] <cafuego> Cyde: it's still a bit rough around the edges - not actively crashy (anymore)
[06:06] <Cyde> cafuego: Heh, I just need whatever will boot and let me install.
[06:06] <Mars2686> hello
[06:06] <arrenlex> !hi | Mars2686
[06:06] <ubotu> Mars2686: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:07] <Cyde> cafuego: This is it, right?  http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd4?highlight=%287.04%29
[06:07] <Mars2686> Hi... this is my first time ever in a IRC :D
[06:07] <cafuego> Cyde: If you're not completely new to linux, feisty (provided it speaks to the 88E8056) will probably be fine.
[06:07] <arrenlex> Mars2686: Ah! An IRC virgin, eh.
[06:07] <ubuntuuuuuuu> yeah hey can some one tell me if there is an xorg-config for ubuntu and how i can get it.  I use linux and when i set up my xorg.conf i used xorg-conf but this doesnt appear to be a valid command.  can some one pleaes help.  thanks
[06:07] <cafuego> Cyde: yup
[06:07] <cafuego> ubuntuuuuuuu: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:07] <Cyde> cafuego: Nope, I'm not new.
[06:08] <nn531> whats the best program to burn an image to a cd?
[06:08] <Cyde> cafuego: Alright, I'll try this then.
[06:08] <ubuntuuuuuuu> cafuego: thank you
[06:08] <arrenlex> !burn | nn531
[06:08] <ubotu> nn531: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[06:08] <arrenlex> nn531: Or you can just use "dd if=file.iso of=/dev/hdc"
[06:08] <Cyde> Nero works well on Windows FWIW
[06:08] <cafuego> Cyde: disclaimer: if it goes horribly wrong, this conversation never took place ;-)
[06:08] <kristallpirat> seems I had the wrong headers installed
[06:08] <Cyde> cafuego: I don't have anything to lose.
[06:08] <desp_> morning all
[06:08] <Cyde> cafuego: I have two HDs, one is running Windows, the other is blank.  I'm going to install on the blank.
[06:08] <Mars2686> is there a channel for ppc ubuntu?
[06:08] <cafuego> Cyde: Ah, easy then
[06:08] <kristallpirat> will took some minutes to change that
[06:08] <desp_> anyone know how can i change my ident with ident server ident2 ?
[06:09] <Cyde> cafuego: I can afford to screw around with this alpha until the final version is released in April or whatever.
[06:09] <macd> cafuego, he could also use reconstructor
[06:09] <Ru-ku> Problem: I installed something with Wine, went to remove it, but the link in the Applications menu has stayed, and I can't get rid of it through Alacarte
[06:10] <Cyde> cafuego: Just one thing I haven't decided yet ... what to do with the bootloader and how to decide which HD to boot from.
[06:11] <desp_> anyone know how can i change my ident with ident server ident2 ?
[06:11] <cafuego> Cyde: grub sucks far less than ntldr.exe
[06:12] <Cyde> cafuego: I've heard.  I really don't want to risk messing up my Windows though.  Linux is for playing ... Windows is for Supreme Commander.  Can't mess that up.
[06:12] <Cyde> cafuego: Would I have to install grub on the Windows HD, or can I somehow make the Linux HD the primary one and just leave grub on that?
[06:12] <cafuego> Cyde: it won't. At worst, you fdisk /mbr and windows boots as per normal.
[06:13] <cafuego> Cyde: grub goes on the windows HD, but *not* the windows partition.
[06:13] <Cyde> I only have one partition?
[06:13] <Cyde> Just C:
[06:13] <cafuego> Cyde: Yes, but there's the MBR, which is not on a partition.
[06:13] <Cyde> Ah, k
[06:15] <zeddock> hello all!
[06:15] <cafuego> Cyde: Ubuntu will add Windows to the boot menu, all you need to do is then edit the grub cfg to make it default into windows.
[06:15] <arrenlex> !hi | zeddock
[06:15] <ubotu> zeddock: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:15] <pwuertz> hi, does anyone know who is responsible for adding modules to the blacklist?
[06:16] <[UPG] Pritchard> Hi guys.
[06:16] <Cyde> cafuego: Sounds good.
[06:16] <andres_> does anyone use linux as their desktop os
[06:16] <Dr_willis> PwcrLinux,  basicially You are.. :) add the ones you want blacklisted...
[06:16] <arrenlex> andres_: I assume a lot of people on #ubuntu do.
[06:16] <Cyde> andres_: Methinks you've come to the right place to ask that question.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> PwcrLinux,  or are you refering to the 'default' blacklist?
[06:16] <[UPG] Pritchard> ^_^;; I need help with Gaim if you could give it.  Getting strange bug I can't find the answer to
[06:16] <fr500_home> woops wrong window :p
[06:16] <pwuertz> Dr_willis: yes... I'm refering to the default blacklist
[06:17] <tritium> pwuertz: why do you ask?
[06:17] <arrenlex> !ask | [UPG] Pritchard
[06:17] <ubotu> [UPG] Pritchard: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:17] <Alonea> Does anyone know how to make my computer shut down or restart without having to use the command prompt? If i use the log out button the screen goes black and stays on. acpi=force or off does not solve it.
[06:17] <fr500_home> arrenlex, yeah, mistake thought i was on #cisco
[06:17] <[UPG] Pritchard> Hahah.  Okie.  Well anyways, Gaim isn't showing up a system tray icon ever since I changed the "Lock to Panel" settings in my tray.
[06:17] <Cyde> Alonea: You could just bind a button to shutdown -h now ... y'know, the same thing you do from the command line.
[06:18] <pwuertz> tritium, Dr_willis, there is a broken kernel module that crashes the system at boot time on feisty
[06:18] <[UPG] Pritchard> I quit gaim and reset the options to system tray on/off a couple times and even relocked myt ray.  Still nothing.
[06:18] <Alonea> Cyde: How do I do that? and how would I bind a button to restart?
[06:18] <tritium> pwuertz: wrong channel.  -> #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[06:18] <Dr_willis> pwuertz,  check in #ubuntu+1 thats the feisty support channel.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> file a bug report also i guess
[06:18] <Cyde> Alonea: Try right-clicking on an existing button and going into properties or something ... all each button is really doing is launching a certain command.  Hell, even in Windows, same deal.
[06:19] <pwuertz> tritium, Dr_willis, its a known bug... I already filed a bug report... its on "high"... but so far nobody cared for blacklisting the module yet
[06:19] <Alonea> Cyde: Ok, is there a way I can remove the logout button from my menu?
[06:19] <tritium> pwuertz: the module needs fixing, rather than blacklisting, it sounds like.
[06:20] <pwuertz> tritium, Dr_willis, since I never got any answers at #ubuntu+1 for this question I tried here
[06:20] <tritium> pwuertz: this is not the right channel
[06:20] <pwuertz> tritium: the question was... "who is responsible for the default blacklist"
[06:21] <Cyde> Alonea: What options are in the right-click menu?  There's no remove or delete or something?
[06:21] <tritium> In order to solve a feisty problem...yeah, I remember.
[06:21] <pwuertz> tritium: I agree.. but as long as the module is not fixed yet... there is no reason for letting feisty crash on systems with that chipset
[06:21] <Alonea> Well, I have the edit menu and I can make a button, but the "Actions" list isn't on there
[06:21] <Cyde> Alonea: GUIs generally present all the options available to you (versus the command-line, which requires you to be able to recall commands and such).  You should find it somewhere ... just look around, see what you can see.
[06:21] <Cyde> Alonea: KDE or Gnome?
[06:22] <Alonea> Cyde: KDE
[06:22] <Cyde> Alonea: There's some sort of Customize Menu control panel or somesuch you need to launch.
[06:22] <verve> hey guys.. how exactly would one get a Linksys WUSB54GC working in Ubuntu?
[06:22] <Cyde> Alonea: It'll be somewhere under preferences or what not.
[06:22] <verve> it's a USB wifi adapter
[06:22] <[UPG] Pritchard> Silly me.
[06:22] <[UPG] Pritchard> I had to add the notification area onto the system tray :D
[06:23] <[UPG] Pritchard> I removed it thinking it was a seperator taking up my space.   ^_^;; Well that one's solved.  See ya guys.
[06:23] <Cyde> Alonea: Just look around in your configuration menus and such until you find something that looks appropriate .. I dont' remember the exact name, but I know it's there because I've used it before.
[06:23] <Alonea> Cyde: Ok, shall look, now is there a command like the shutdown -h now that will instead just restart the computer?
[06:23] <arrenlex> Cyde: "look around in your configuration" is super bad advice to give for KDE. xD
[06:24] <Cyde> Alonea: reboot
[06:24] <IceGuest_7> Awsome!
[06:24] <IceGuest_7> :D
[06:24] <Cyde> Alonea: Could be sudo reboot, depending.
[06:24] <Cyde> .. what user group do you have to be in to be able to tell the system to turn off, anyway?
[06:24] <tritium> Cyde: admin
[06:24] <Cyde> That's a user group?
[06:25] <Cyde> Huh
[06:25] <Phlosten> the 'i've got a big hammer so turn off' group
[06:25] <Cyde> I guess wheel is something else entirely.
[06:25] <JunK-Y> when im running apt-get upgrade, im always seeing: The following packages have been kept back:, how can i can stop that>?
[06:25] <arrenlex> JunK-Y: apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:25] <IceGuest_7> hey all, could someone help me with a question? I seem to have downloaded LIVE CD instead of the real version of Ubuntu... what gives?
[06:25] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: The LiveCDs are able to install.
[06:25] <tritium> IceGuest_7: you can install from the LiveCD
[06:25] <JunK-Y> arrenlex: alerady ran that, still the same.
[06:25] <arrenlex> IceGuest_7: The liveCD also allows you to install. Click the install button on the desktop
[06:26] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: There should be an Install shortcut on the desktop in the liveCD.
[06:26] <Phlosten> IceGuest_7: note the 'Install' icon on the desktop
[06:26] <arrenlex> JunK-Y: What happens if you run apt-get install <one of those packages>?
[06:26] <IceGuest_7> AH!!! alright!! that's it! hah
[06:26] <Cyde> arrenlex: I imagine it'd still be held back.
[06:26] <arrenlex> Cyde: Well yes. But it would print a detailed reason.
[06:26] <IceGuest_7> alright, the other thing is that I've already partitioned my hard drive to have an two ext3 partitions and one "linux-swap" partition
[06:27] <IceGuest_7> I don't understand how to install to those partitions
[06:27] <JunK-Y> arrenlex: works, thx dude.
[06:27] <tritium> IceGuest_7: choose the "manual" partitioning method
[06:27] <Phlosten> IceGuest_7: the install process will ask you to choose where to install it
[06:27] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: So you're going / /home and /swap ?
[06:27] <IceGuest_7> I'm not sure. I'm just one of those average dumb computer users :D
[06:28] <verve> IceGuest_7, hopefully you're not looking for EXE files to run on Ubuntu
[06:28] <verve> heh
[06:28] <IceGuest_7> I saw a video of someone dual booting,... so I decided to partition my hard drive
[06:28] <kristallpirat> cafuego: I installed the sources for the kernel, now it seems to work
[06:28] <IceGuest_7> I've already partitioned it for dual boot, I just don't know where to install the kernel, I guess...
[06:28] <cafuego> sorry, what>
[06:28] <tritium> IceGuest_7: for future reference, you don't have to pre-partition
[06:28] <verve> i remembe reading webpages about dual booting.. now we watch videos of it
[06:28] <arrenlex> Bye all!
[06:29] <cafuego> kristallpirat: cool ;-)
[06:29] <verve> wow
[06:29] <verve> heh
[06:29] <verve> remember*
[06:29] <IceGuest_7> which one, on the linux swap or on the ext3?
[06:29] <LiENUS> I work with someone in new york doing software design and what not is there some form of online meeting software that does voice, whiteboard file transfer and stuff like that that works under ubuntu and windows?
[06:29] <exs> Should I use hard drive encryption so that my laptop is more secure for things like online shopping?
[06:29] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: It's probably easiest to just re-partition during the Ubuntu install process.  It should be able to setup multiple partitions for you.
[06:29] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: If the partitions are empty anyway, you aren't losing anything.
[06:29] <LiENUS> we need to be able to have online meetings he only comes down to my end of the country once a year
[06:29] <verve> exs, just cut the ethernet cable
[06:29] <verve> very secure
[06:29] <exs> verve:  then I cant use the internet
[06:30] <Cyde> exs: HD encryption is only useful for physical security, e.g. if your laptop is stolen.
[06:30] <IceGuest_7> Cyde, I already have information on my laptop in Windows... I don't want to loose that information.
[06:30] <LiENUS> ExM3th1x,  thats the point
[06:30] <Cyde> exs: It has nothing to do with protecting you from online threats.
[06:30] <yell0w> verve, don't even need to cut it, just yank it out =))
[06:30] <verve> exs, well.. you can't win all the time
[06:30] <verve> :P
[06:30] <IceGuest_7> Though, I have already backed it up :D
[06:30] <exs> Cyde:  what can I d to prevent online hacking etc?
[06:30] <verve> yell0w, shh, i'm BOFHing out
[06:30] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: So you have one HD, and multiple partitions?  And presumably one partition is NTFS and that's where Windows is?
[06:30] <cafuego> LiENUS: gnomemeeting (now ekiga) supposedly supports that NetMeeting stuff
[06:30] <yell0w> hehe
[06:30] <IceGuest_7> Cyde, yes
[06:30] <yell0w> ;)
[06:30] <Cyde> exs: Well, let's see ... don't install unknown programs, use Firefox instead of Internet Explorer, use a firewall, etc. ...
[06:30] <LiENUS> cafuego, is there a windows client since netmeeting is depreciated ?
[06:31] <exs> Cyde:  im using ubuntu
[06:31] <cafuego> LiENUS: no idea
[06:31] <verve> Cyde, i think using Firefox instead of IE in Ubuntu kinda goes without saying
[06:31] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: During the Ubuntu install process have it setup partitions, and make sure not to touch the Windows one.
[06:31] <Cyde> verve: you never know ... I've seen people doing crazier things with wine.
[06:31] <verve> hah
[06:31] <LiENUS> well i have to have something that works under windows...
[06:31] <LiENUS> hes a graphics designer so linux is pretty much out of the question
[06:31] <Cyde> exs: Okay, well are all of your user account passwords secure?  You know, at least 10 characters, a mix of uppercase, lowercase, numbers, and punctuation?
[06:32] <exs> Cyde:  what is a good linux firewall for in use with ubuntu?
[06:32] <IceGuest_7> Cyde, will the windows one already say NTFS File System or will I have to remember how large that partition is?
[06:32] <verve> 'dude! i'm running amigaos in linux, which is running through an msdos partition in windows, which is running through my freebsd box running wine!'
[06:32] <Cyde> exs: Linux already comes with a firewall by default, you should have iptables running or somesuch.
[06:32] <fr500_home> exs, try firestarter for home users
[06:32] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: It should identify it.
[06:32] <LiENUS> verbose, wine doesnt support loadlin, nice try
[06:32] <yell0w> @_@ verve
[06:32] <Cyde> exs: Also, make sure that root cannot log in remotely.
[06:32] <exs> i dont use ip tables
[06:32] <LiENUS> err verve  not verbose
[06:32] <Cyde> exs: Nix remote login for all standard user account names.
[06:32] <verve> how would that affect wine?
[06:32] <verve> freebsd would be running wine
[06:33] <verve> wine would be running windows
[06:33] <verve> windows would be loading linux
[06:33] <fr500_home> exs, iptables is the userspace firewall for linux by default, firestarter is a gui for it
[06:33] <tritium> !enter > verve
[06:33] <Cyde> exs: If you're really paranoid, install security software like snort and denyhosts.
[06:33] <verve> !enter > tritium
[06:33] <IceGuest_7> Cyde, so the partitions that I have already pre-formatted don't matter and it will go ahead and do that anyway? Or do I already need to go ahead and take my partitions down?
[06:33] <exs> ok, its just i am doing important online shopping (over 500 pounds)
[06:33] <fr500_home> i have a lot of fun seen hackers try to hack my workstation via vnc with windoze commands
[06:33] <LiENUS> verve, you wouldnt be able to run loadlin to boot linux
[06:33] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: You're going to get into a partition manager like fdisk or what not during the install process.  Delete all of the ext3 partitions you already made and use the combined new free space to setup new partitions for Ubuntu.  Don't you dare touch the NTFS partition.
[06:33] <verve> why not!?
[06:34] <tritium> verve: that was a warning
[06:34] <verve> tritium, wow, i'm all broken up over it
[06:34] <verve> :`(
[06:34] <fr500_home> verve, because wine is not an emulator
[06:34] <IceGuest_7> mind if I already try to do that while I'm still online?
[06:34] <LiENUS> verve,  wine doesnt run windows
[06:34] <LiENUS> its a compatibility layer with windows
[06:34] <fr500_home> what is that !enter thing?
[06:35] <Cyde> Using virtualization you could run Windows though, right?
[06:35] <fr500_home> cyde of course
[06:35] <[UPG] Pritchard> Any way to open a folder in Ubuntu via system tray?
[06:35] <LiENUS> Cyde,  yes but virtualization is nothing like wine
[06:35] <Cyde> I've never done virtualization ... it sounds cool, but rather intimidating.
[06:35] <[UPG] Pritchard> I'd like to make a new icon on the tray that opens up a folder location of mine.
[06:35] <fr500_home> [UPG] Pritchard, yeah, create a launcher with nautilus /home/username/path-to-folder
[06:35] <Cyde> Could you, uh, virtualize Linux from within Linux?  At least that's free (versus having to own a virtualizable copy of Windows).
[06:35] <fr500_home> or so
[06:35] <wallaceJ> im running ubuntu in parrallels right now
[06:35] <CaptainMorgan> anyone familiar with InstallShield? Im not sure why it is now on my system, after installing things related to programming, Ie Java, JVM, jdk, javac, DDD, etc... mainly tools.. do I need the folder in my home directory labelled InstallShield?
[06:36] <fr500_home> Cyde, you can virtualize pretty much anything that can run on an x86 system
[06:36] <LiENUS> Cyde,  yes that configuration is quite common and there are multiple ways to do it
[06:36] <fr500_home> CaptainMorgan, installed with wine?
[06:36] <yell0w> fr500_home, requires hardware with VT support ?
[06:36] <Cyde> So with virtualization you basically open up a window and the OS in there starts from the boot screen and completely loads as if it was running on its own PC?
[06:36] <Alonea> Anyone know how to customize the Actions part of the start menu thing?
[06:36] <fr500_home> LiENUS, you could use XEN to virtualize and achive close to the real thing performance
[06:37] <CaptainMorgan> nah fr500_home,
[06:37] <[UPG] Pritchard> @fr500_home:  Thank you so much!  This will make programming much easier :D
[06:37] <LiENUS> fr500_home, you could also use qemu or vmware or uml
[06:37] <fr500_home> yell0w, for better performance it does
[06:37] <CaptainMorgan> fr500_home, do you know how I can make netbeans appear in the system menu? under programming? right now it's just on my desktop
[06:37] <yell0w> fr500_home, so i can do w/o it ?
[06:37] <LiENUS> Cyde, more or less
[06:38] <Cyde> Man, I need to go to a LUG meeting or something.  There's lots of cool stuff I dunno if I'll ever be able to try out on my own, but I at least want to see it running.
[06:38] <fr500_home> yell0w, of course, you can use qemu or vmware player
[06:38] <LiENUS> i use virtualization to do my homework that requires windows xp
[06:38] <Cyde> However, I went to a DCLUG meeting and it was just a guy from a corporation giving a talk about their proprietary HD racks.
[06:38] <fr500_home> vmware player is free
[06:38] <Phlosten> vmware server is free too
[06:38] <fr500_home> yell0w, you can download lots of vmware virtual appliances ready to use
[06:38] <fr500_home> yah
[06:38] <gunny01> is there a way to change the message when i ssh into my ubuntu box
[06:39] <yell0w> which one is better/ faster , xen or vmware  or qemu ?
[06:39] <LiENUS> yell0w,  qemu is open source
[06:39] <LiENUS> xen is fastest and open source
[06:39] <cowl> gunny01, do you mean /etc/motd?
[06:39] <Phlosten> xen takes a little more to setup
[06:39] <LiENUS> but xen doesnt work with every os unless you have vt extensions
[06:39] <fr500_home> yell0w, xen may be faster if the oses support the features  it requieres and the processor has the vt thing
[06:39] <Khellendros> http://whatyouseewhenyoudie.ytmnd.com
[06:39] <Khellendros> http://whatyouseewhenyoudie.ytmnd.com
[06:39] <LiENUS> vmware works with more operating systems than qemu or xen and is faster than qemu
[06:39] <monzie> yeah
[06:40] <LiENUS> so true Khem
[06:40] <gunny01> cowl: possiblely. I want to change the The programs included with ubuntu...
[06:40] <LiENUS> oh khellendros left
[06:40] <LiENUS> aww
[06:40] <zero88> who knows of a good iso burner in the respitories?
[06:40] <fr500_home> zero88, brasero
[06:41] <zero88> fr500_home thanks
[06:41] <Cyde> Has anyone put any thought into combining multiple download protocols?  For instance, I'm downloading Feisty right now over http, but it's only going at 100KBps.  What if I could also be running BitTorrent at the same time, and they were saving to the same file?  It sort of makes sense to combine multiple download sources ... you'll get done faster that way.  But can it be done?
[06:41] <yell0w> thanks LiENUS & fr500_home
[06:41] <yell0w> LiENUS, does xen support ubuntu as host ?
[06:41] <fr500_home> Cyde, bittorrent alone does over 800kB/s on ubuntu torrents
[06:41] <LiENUS> Cyde, they do that
[06:42] <LiENUS> Cyde, ik dont know if ubuntu supports it but debian has a way to
[06:42] <LiENUS> but bittorrent effectively does it
[06:42] <Cyde> fr500_home: I'm on one of those crappy asymmetric cable connections.
[06:42] <cafuego> yell0w: Yes, xen supports ubuntu as host.
[06:42] <fr500_home> Cyde, me too!
[06:42] <Cyde> So there's lots of generous seeds on the Ubuntu torrents?
[06:43] <fr500_home> Cyde, if you are over 10kbps upstream. it'll download fine
[06:43] <cafuego> Cyde: you're welcome
[06:43] <yell0w> cafuego, w/o VT hardware ?
[06:43] <ubuntu> ke honda
[06:43] <cafuego> yell0w: runs fine on my old amd
[06:43] <yell0w> hehe, time to try out xen then
[06:43] <ubuntu> ke honda kamaradas no se acuerdan de mi
[06:43] <LiENUS> ekiga doesnt seem to have a whiteboard
[06:44] <yell0w> cafuego, does it require lots of resources ?
[06:44] <LiENUS> is there any online meeting software for linux that supports things like whiteboard and easy file transfer?
[06:44] <ubuntu> speak spanish
[06:44] <LiENUS> that supports windows as well...
[06:44] <cafuego> !es > ubuntu
[06:44] <ubuntu> whai
[06:44] <IceGuest_7> my laptop is getting really freakin' hot right now while I'm trying to install linux
[06:44] <IceGuest_7> is there going to be a problem?
[06:44] <cafuego> yell0w: not really, just depends on what you want to run in 'em and how many you want to run.
[06:45] <ubuntu> hey people hack this machine <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:45] <cafuego> IceGuest_7: unpacking eats cpu, it'll settle when install is done
[06:45] <ubuntu> what
[06:45] <Cyde> Someone want to get that troll ..
[06:46] <cafuego> ubuntu: Nobody wants to ahck that amchine. Did you have an actual question?
[06:46] <yell0w> cafuego, ok, should be small mem/cpu requirements just for one os like say win xp right ?
[06:46] <cafuego> yell0w: to be honst, for winxp I'd use vmware
[06:46] <cafuego> *do* in fact
[06:46] <yell0w> heh
[06:47] <ubuntu> jajajaj no que muy cabrones
[06:47] <IceGuest_7> Cyde, did you call me a troll or someone else?
[06:47] <ubuntu> see  you lerer
[06:47] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: No, not you.
[06:47] <cafuego> IceGuest_7: ubuntu
[06:47] <IceGuest_7> oh, ok
[06:47] <IceGuest_7> lol
[06:47] <yell0w> yes you IceGuest_7
[06:47] <coder> hello there, i am trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy.. i used the method given on the ubuntu website, the distribution ubgrade program took like 3 hrs downloading stuff.. now it seems to be hung at
[06:47] <cafuego> IceGuest_7: if you felt like it was you, stop trolling ;-)
[06:47] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: And no, I don't particularly forecast a problem ..
[06:47] <yell0w> lol
[06:48] <coder> fetching and installing the upgrades, sorry multi lines was unintentional..  is this normal?  nothing is going on in terminal, it l ooks hung ><   im afraid it broke and it won't boot ><
[06:48] <fiveiron> anyone using procmail to deliver mail to a Maildir?
[06:49] <LiENUS> is there any online meeting software for linux that supports things like whiteboard and easy file transfer that supports windows?
[06:49] <coder> is ther any advice or me?
[06:49] <IceGuest_7> Cyde, I'm at the partitioning screen. I have just deleted those three partitions and have selected the "Unallocated" space. I left the NTFS file system untouched... Good?
[06:49] <bedake> could someone tell me what is needed to get softsubs working in mplayer? or any other media player if its more conveniant
[06:49] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: that sounds good, though I'd wait for confirmation from at least one other person in this channel before continuing.
[06:49] <echosyp> is that cock still here that got me banned earlier
[06:50] <IceGuest_7> Anyone else have any ideas?
[06:50] <Cyde> He's trying to make sure he doesn't trash his Windows install.
[06:50] <cile> I NEED DRIVERS FOR TV CARD MATCH
[06:50] <cile> PLS
[06:50] <coder> i ran gksu "update-manager -c", and the last line that i see at the console-console is   authenticate '/tmp/tmpRSbwnm/edgy.tar.gz' against '/tmp/tmpRSbwnm/edgy.tar.gz.gpg'
[06:50] <IceGuest_7> I have three operations pending because I deleted those three pre-made partitions and I have selected the unallocated space now...
[06:51] <IceGuest_7> Cyde, I'm going to go ahead with it.
[06:51] <cafuego> echosyp: please mind your language
[06:51] <Cyde> Someone want to double-check me on this and make sure this is correct?
[06:51] <echosyp> cock is an animal
[06:51] <dougb> i'm getting farther
[06:51] <Cyde> Well, technically, it is animalian ... though it is just part of an animal.
[06:51] <KyRNeL> hello
[06:51] <KyRNeL> im new on ubuntu
[06:51] <KyRNeL> ;)
[06:51] <coder> is there an ubuntu support channel?
[06:52] <rojo^> I'm an animal, too.  Does that mean I'm a cock?
[06:52] <Cyde> coder: This is it.
[06:52] <coder> oh..
[06:52] <Cyde> rojo^: My arm is human, but it's not *a* human ... surely you see the distinction there.
[06:52] <IceGuest_7> lol, in the instructions down at the bottom... it says to create a root partition and a swap partition...
[06:52] <rojo^> IceGuest_7: the biggest thing to worry about will be adding an entry to your /boot/grub/menu.lst for Windows after Ubuntu is installed
[06:52] <Ironman273> Cyde: I think he meant like a rooster
[06:52] <sexcopter> Cyde, IceGuest_7: I'm no expert, but what were the 3 other partitions you are about to wipe?
[06:53] <zero88> has anyone used Zone ALarm from Zone Labs for windows?
[06:53] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: Just some blank partitions he had manually made outside of the install process to try to get ready for Linux.
[06:53] <cile> I NEED DRIVERS FOR TV TUNER CARD MATCH CAN SOMEBODY HELP
[06:53] <echosyp> what i can't say cock, but this douche bag is named sexcopter
[06:53] <cile> PLEASE
[06:53] <echosyp> wtf is with that
[06:53] <KyRNeL> eggy bots
[06:53] <coder> is there any way to check to see if the distribution upgrade hung up, and to fix it if it did?
[06:53] <echosyp> your rules are flawed
[06:53] <zero88> whats the best firewall for linux?
[06:53] <IceGuest_7> sexcopter, I am deleting the three pre-made partitions that I did with Gparted.  IceGuest_7: so are they mounted now (guessing you're in a livecd environment)
[06:54] <CientificoLoco> how do I remove package that I install with a .deb packe?
[06:54] <KyRNeL> zeembo go to distowatch.org
[06:54] <coder> is there a ubuntu support channel for distribution upgrades from dapper to edgy?
[06:54] <sexcopter> coder: think this is it!
[06:55] <KyRNeL> coder go to the forum
[06:55] <sexcopter> brb
[06:55] <echosyp> change your name when you get back
[06:55] <coder> KyRNeL what is this channel for then?   lol
[06:55] <zero88> whats the best firewall for linux???
[06:55] <illriginal> Can anyone help me with gettin rid of the latest generic ubuntu? I'm not using it because it doesn't work... I have no idea what the problem is but it doesn't load X.
[06:55] <IceGuest_7> Cyde, when it says to allocate a space for a root partition ("/") does that mean to create a new partition as "ext3"?
[06:55] <KyRNeL> i don't know heheheh many bots
[06:55] <ALL4N> hey, I need to install this kernel module (which I only have source for).. but now I just realised that the ubuntu kernel has modules disabled
[06:55] <fiveiron> zero88, a freebsd box
[06:55] <fiveiron> lol
[06:56] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: Yeah, root is gonna be ext3, unless you're a reiserfs kind of guy anyway.
[06:56] <KyRNeL> i don't know heheheh many bots
[06:56] <LiENUS> ALL4N, by default the ubuntu kernel has modules enabled
[06:56] <IceGuest_7> eh, I'm just a n00b
[06:56] <zero88> fiveiron what is bsd anyway?
[06:56] <yell0w> what's the advantage/disadvantage of reiserfs vs. ext3 ?
[06:56] <KyRNeL> fiveiron he she is askin for linux distro firewall not a bsd
[06:56] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: I think swap is generally 2X the size of your RAM or so ... of course, it also depends on how large the HD is anyway.  If it's a 20GB HD, you don't want a 2GB swap ..
[06:56] <Drabo> ReiserFS is faster with smaller files in some cases.
[06:57] <ALL4N> LiENUS: uh?    I go to /lib/modules/linux/ and type make modules, it says my kernel has modules disabled
[06:57] <illriginal> Can anyone help me with gettin rid of the latest generic ubuntu? I'm not using it because it doesn't work... I have no idea what the problem is but it doesn't load X. Now it's on my grub and it's just taking up space.
[06:57] <Cyde> yell0w: The disadvantage of reiserfs is that its inventor and lead programmer is in jail definitely on charges of murdering his family.
[06:57] <echosyp> what is linux?
[06:57] <Cyde> yell0w: So, go with ext3.
[06:57] <IceGuest_7> ah, alright
[06:57] <IceGuest_7> thanks
[06:57] <KyRNeL> what is windows?
[06:57] <KyRNeL> hehehehe
[06:57] <Cyde> s/definitely/indefinitely/
[06:57] <Drabo> There's talk about it being dropping from the kernel later on because it's bug-ridden and going unmaintained.
[06:57] <KyRNeL> funny bots
[06:57] <yell0w> lol Cyde i got that part, but i was just asking about its performance, not its future
[06:57] <LiENUS> ALL4N,  thats because /lib/modules/linux doesnt exist
[06:57] <echosyp> what all can this bot do
[06:58] <echosyp> how do i find out?
[06:58] <Drabo> Anyone here use Google's Jabber servers?
[06:58] <cld2> anyone have a .deb for proggyfonts?
[06:58] <LiENUS> Drabo,  i do
[06:58] <Cyde> yell0w: Performance is comparable ... I think reiserfs is supposed to be significantly better for lots of little files.
[06:58] <ALL4N> LiENUS: sorry, its /usr/src/linux
[06:58] <KyRNeL> i dont know.
[06:58] <LiENUS> ALL4N,  you installed the kernel-source package?
[06:58] <Cyde> yell0w: Although if your application is using lots of little files, you're doing something wrong.
[06:58] <cafuego> Cyde: Except not so good for storing them.
[06:58] <ALL4N> LiENUS: yes
[06:58] <LiENUS> why?
[06:58] <IceGuest_7> ah, crap. lol. Cyde ...
[06:58] <KyRNeL> ey guys has anyone use ubuntu for enterprise????
[06:58] <Drabo> LiENUS: No trouble connecting as of late? Been through Gajim and neither it or Gaim will cooperate in authentication.
[06:58] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: Yeah?
[06:58] <yell0w> Cyde, why is that ?
[06:58] <IceGuest_7> Cyde, "prepare mount points"
[06:58] <LiENUS> Drabo, im on right now
[06:58] <ALL4N> LiENUS: because I need to install this pwc package to get my webcam working
[06:58] <Drabo> Drat, so the server isn't down. lol
[06:59] <Phlosten> illriginal: using proprietry graphics card drivers?
[06:59] <ALL4N> LiENUS: and pwc only comes in source code..  and its a module
[06:59] <Cyde> yell0w: I couldn't really tell you, it has something to do with block sizes maybe?  Or are you referring to my comment about not using lots of little files?
[06:59] <echosyp> at what age is it ok to say fuck?
[06:59] <IceGuest_7> What does this screen mean?
[06:59] <LiENUS> ALL4N,  you dont need the kernel source to compile modules only the headers
[06:59] <Cyde> yell0w: If you have lots of little files, they should be in a database.
[06:59] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: Are you in fdisk?
[06:59] <Drabo> Tried using port 80 instead of the default (5222/5223) and swapping the server from gmail.com to googlemail.com like the help desk @ Google suggested but those pages are so old.
[06:59] <IceGuest_7> it has "reformat" on the side and the NTFS is unchecked. I know that it will not reformat that partition, but is everything alright?
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> echosyp: Not here.
[06:59] <illriginal> Phlosten, I already deleted my nvidia card driver, then downloaded and reinstalled it, that's not the problem, from what I'm assuming.
[06:59] <IceGuest_7> I'm not sure what fdisk is
[06:59] <echosyp> why not
[06:59] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: What partioning tool are you in?
[06:59] <IceGuest_7> I just see the "step 5 of 6" screen
[07:00] <ALL4N> LiENUS: hmm..  thats comforting.. I did try to compile the pwc package and it is looking in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build folder
[07:00] <echosyp> ;P
[07:00] <Drabo> A partition table manipulator, why of course.
[07:00] <Cyde> Anyone know what partitioning tool is on the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[07:00] <ALL4N> LiENUS: but there is no build folder
[07:00] <Drabo> GParted or QTParted.
[07:00] <echosyp> Qtparted
[07:00] <Phlosten> illriginal: the previous kernel will still be available in the grub menu
[07:00] <LiENUS> because you installed the kernel source instead of kernel dev
[07:00] <Drabo> Former's for Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu, later's for Kubuntu.
[07:00] <echosyp> so can i say BitchX
[07:00] <illriginal> Phlosten, correct. I'd like to delete the latest one since it's just taken up space and also take it off my grub list.
[07:01] <sexcopter> how is it going IceGuest_7?
[07:01] <IceGuest_7> I'm not sure
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> echosyp: If you're actually discussing the IRC client....
[07:01] <echosyp> k
[07:01] <IceGuest_7> I'm at a point where it says "prepare mount points"'
[07:01] <CientificoLoco> fraroco@fraroco-laptop:~$ sudo mercury
[07:01] <CientificoLoco> nawk: error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:01] <CientificoLoco> dirname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:01] <CientificoLoco> /bin/ls: error while loading shared libraries: librt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:01] <CientificoLoco> basename: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:01] <CientificoLoco> dirname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:01] <CientificoLoco> basename: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:01] <illriginal> -.-
[07:01] <CientificoLoco> grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:01] <echosyp> quit that
[07:01] <CientificoLoco> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java: error while loading shared libraries: libpthread.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:01] <CientificoLoco> sorrrry
[07:01] <IceGuest_7> damn it
[07:01] <fr500_home> CientificoLoco, no pegues aqui
[07:02] <ALL4N> LiENUS: kernel dev?  I thought you said headers?
[07:02] <cafuego> CientificoLoco: Please don't paste here
[07:02] <LiENUS> !pastebin | CientificoLoco
[07:02] <ubotu> CientificoLoco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:02] <illriginal> CientificoLoco: ignored
[07:02] <Phlosten> !idiot
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about idiot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <echosyp> !asshole
[07:02] <CientificoLoco> fr500_home, hablas espaol?
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asshole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <echosyp> haha
[07:02] <LiENUS> install linux-headers-386 al
[07:02] <LiENUS> install linux-headers-386 ALL4N
[07:02] <fr500_home> CientificoLoco, yes, talk in #ubuntu_es
[07:02] <IceGuest_7> anyways, for those who are listening... I'm at step 5 of 6, it says "prepare mount points."
[07:02] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: Does the stuff you're looking at look anything like the screenshots on here?  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/generalities/gparted.htm
[07:02] <cafuego> echosyp: again, please mind your language
[07:02] <cile> HELP tv tunner card match on ubuntu
[07:02] <illriginal> Can anyone help me with gettin rid of the latest generic ubuntu? I'm not using it because it doesn't work... I have no idea what the problem is but it doesn't load X. Now it's on my grub and it's just taking up space.
[07:03] <echosyp> fine, im bored with you guys
[07:03] <ALL4N> !ubuntu linux
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <krinns> hi all
[07:03] <LiENUS> !bot
[07:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:03] <krinns> i want to upgrade my ubuntu
[07:03] <LiENUS> use that to look random shitu p ALL4N
[07:03] <krinns> any idea
[07:03] <sexcopter> IceGuest_7: ok, the defaults are probably fine. make sure the ntfs is not checked for formatting.
[07:04] <CientificoLoco> sorry
[07:04] <ALL4N> LiENUS: so for the /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build folder.. do I need linux headers, or linux dev?
[07:04] <sexcopter> IceGuest_7: I'm guessing there'll be 3 entries, one for swap, one for root and one for ntfs
[07:04] <IceGuest_7> Cyde, yes it looks very familiar
[07:04] <cafuego> ALL4N: linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:04] <CientificoLoco> if you are north american you do not know nothig about sorry
[07:05] <Cyde> IceGuest_7: So it's asking for mount points right now?  Which mount points does it want to assign?  / and what else?
[07:05] <LiENUS> cafuego,  bad idea
[07:05] <Steil> is there an easy way to setup encrypted filesystems under ubuntu?
[07:05] <LiENUS> that wont upgrade
[07:05] <nofeardjb> Every time i reboot i my X server crashes and I get the error "(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.Fatal server error:no screens found" and if i re-install the Beta Driver for my gfx card, my Xserver works, but as soon as I restart, it crashes again. can anyone assist me?
[07:05] <LiENUS> ALL4N,  install linux-headers-386
[07:05] <IceGuest_7> well, /media/hda1 (which is my NTFS file system with windows)... swap... and /
[07:05] <cafuego> LiENUS -generic, you mean?
[07:06] <LiENUS> why generic cafuego ?
[07:06] <LiENUS> im guessing hes on x86
[07:06] <cafuego> LiENUS: But is he using the -386 kernel?
[07:06] <LiENUS> if he were on sparc or powerpc id expect him to be able to google this himself
[07:06] <IceGuest_7> what does /media/hda1 mean?!
[07:06] <ALL4N> LiENUS: thanks, will do
[07:06] <LiENUS> cafuego,  if hes runnign x86 he is
[07:06] <ALL4N> cafuego: thanks
[07:06] <cafuego> LiENUS: No, he's not.
[07:06] <LiENUS> cafuego, hes not?
[07:06] <sexcopter> IceGuest_7: that's your first partition on the disk, probably the ntfs one
[07:06] <cafuego> LiENUS: I have a x86 and use the -generic kernel.
[07:07] <LiENUS> yes he is cafuego
[07:07] <IceGuest_7> my options to change it is swap, / , /home, /boot, /usr, /var
[07:07] <LiENUS> unless he specifically opted to install a diff kernel
[07:07] <cafuego> LiENUS: ... he is on -generic.
[07:08] <cafuego> LiENUS: Unless he's on dapper. not edgy.
[07:08] <LiENUS> cafuego,  why wouldnt he be on dapper?
[07:08] <cafuego> LiENUS: Coz edgy is current?
[07:08] <LiENUS> err got those two backwords
[07:08] <LiENUS> cafuego,  both are current
[07:08] <Drabo> LiENUS: What server and hostname you using for Gtalk? No idea why this isn't going through all of the suddent.
[07:08] <Drabo> Sudden, even. Beh, boo, bah. X)
[07:09] <sexcopter> IceGuest_7: don't see any reason to change it. it depends on where you want your ntfs partition mounted, you could perhaps change it to /media/windows or /media/C or /media/ntfs for ex
[07:09] <midgetg0at> so i was messing around w/ my router. had to add another mac address to the allowed list..so my wifi card went out in edgy. then i couldnt get it back, now it's saying wlan0 doesnt exist. iv'e installed ndiswrapper about 5 times, i've got the windows drivers straight from the driver cd. no matter what i do (very limited knowledge btw) i cant get my wifi card to get picked back up - any ideas?
[07:09] <cafuego> LiENUS: Either way, if he's on edgy and using the normal kenrel, he's using -generic.
[07:09] <LiENUS> cafuego,  edgy has -386 installed for me
[07:09] <AMD-> any one know a way to install tux racer >
[07:10] <cafuego> LiENUS: -generic here.
[07:10] <ALL4N> I'm on feisty
[07:10] <AMD-> i tryed sudo apt-get install tuxracer
[07:10] <mackinac> lol
[07:10] <cafuego> ALL4N: aiyee! ;-)
[07:10] <IceGuest_7> sexcopter, so you're saying that it isn't mounting linux on my ntfs system at all... it's just naming it /media/hd1?
[07:10] <LiENUS> ALL4N, err why?
[07:10] <cile> how to install tv tuner card match
[07:10] <cile> ???
[07:10] <zyth> So, can I get support for my Ubuntu Satanic Edition here, or is there a special channel for that?
[07:10] <cafuego> AMD-: ppracer, I think.
[07:10] <LiENUS> ALL4N, if you dont understand linux well enough to setup a kernel module build why are you running beta software?
[07:10] <cafuego> zyth: How many goats?
[07:10] <zyth> cafuego, one per daemon!
[07:10] <pluto> hello
[07:11] <cile> how to install tv tuner card match help please
[07:11] <AMD-> E: Couldn't find package ppracer
[07:11] <cile> how to install tv tuner card match help please
[07:11] <cile> how to install tv tuner card match help please
[07:11] <pluto> can anyone help me w/ installing beryl
[07:11] <ALL4N> so its generic then?
[07:11] <mackinac> !repeat | cile
[07:11] <ubotu> cile: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:11] <cafuego> planetpenguin-racer
[07:11] <imbecile> zyth, hehe i cant find the theme for it :/ how is yours working? i have start/shutdown screens but thats it
[07:11] <Drabo> Package changed to planetpenguin-racer.
[07:11] <zyth> pluto, try #ubuntu-effects
[07:11] <ALL4N> LiENUS: I think feisty is good enough..  no problems so far
[07:11] <ferguscan> Hi, all.  I'm wanting to install a new keymap and have it accessible in the ubuntu keyboard configuration UI.
[07:11] <zyth> imbecile, check the thread on the ubuntuforums
[07:11] <pluto> zyth ?
[07:11] <pluto> how ?
[07:11] <ALL4N> LiENUS: except that webcam prob that is
[07:11] <cafuego> ALL4N: what does `uname -r' say?
[07:11] <LiENUS> ALL4N, feisty is for testing purposes only...
[07:12] <zyth> pluto, type /join #Ubuntu-Effects
[07:12] <sexcopter> IceGuest_7: more or less, yeah. it installs linux on another partition, and whereas in windows a different partition would have a new drive letter (D: etc), linux mounts it in a folder within / (usually /mnt/foo or /media/foo)
[07:12] <ALL4N> 2.6.20-5-386
[07:12] <ALL4N> testing is what I do  :p
[07:12] <ferguscan> I'm specifically interested in Programmer's DVORAK.  How can I do thisd?
[07:12] <cafuego> ALL4N: linux-headers-386 it is, then.
[07:12] <LiENUS> ALL4N, you should be familiar with linux and programming before using a beta version like feisty
[07:12] <IceGuest_7> sexcopter, I hope you're right :D my thesis paper is on here :D
[07:12] <LiENUS> you really should be using edgy
[07:12] <cafuego> LiENUS knows about Linux, who knew? ;-)
[07:12] <sexcopter> IceGuest_7: Back it up!
[07:12] <zyth> IceGuest_7, backups are your friend
[07:13] <sexcopter> IceGuest_7: that should be backed up *no matter what*
[07:13] <ALL4N> LiENUS: feisty is out in another month or so right?
[07:13] <IceGuest_7> it's on a CD, but that is a week old
[07:13] <yharrow> apr 19
[07:13] <LiENUS> ALL4N, they're not even on release candidates yet as far as i know
[07:13] <IceGuest_7> I guess if something happens I can always make it up over a long night
[07:13] <LiENUS> besides with feisty you should be in #ubuntu+1
[07:13] <nxvl> how unstable is feisty?
[07:13] <Frogzoo> IceGuest_7: dude, USB key
[07:14] <mackinac> !feisty
[07:14] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:14] <LiENUS>  woah
[07:14] <LiENUS> its not even beta
[07:14] <LiENUS> its alpha
[07:14] <LiENUS> that means things are guerenteed to break
[07:14] <IceGuest_7> huh? USB key?
[07:14] <Drabo> Only problem I ever had with Feisty was that it couldn't read my first HD's partition table. X(
[07:14] <LiENUS> alpha means only partially implemented functionality
[07:14] <midgetg0a1> so yea, not sure what h appened there...but um, ndiswrapper help anyone?
[07:14] <IceGuest_7> Eh, I'de be loosing history notes too, damn
[07:14] <kristallpirat> !gnupg
[07:14] <ubotu> gnupg: GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement. In component main, is important. Version 1.4.3-2ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1031 kB, installed size 4784 kB
[07:14] <sexcopter> IceGuest_7: USB key is a good idea, or email it to yourself for a one-off job
[07:14] <gb__> hii all
[07:14] <skaro> bah...buncha chickens
[07:15] <gb__> coming on ubuntu after sometime
[07:15] <gb__> lol
[07:15] <kristallpirat> !gnupg2
[07:15] <ubotu> gnupg2: GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.9.21-0ubuntu5.2 (edgy), package size 720 kB, installed size 1412 kB
[07:15] <ALL4N> LiENUS: okay, but there's no way I'm uninstalling my system now.. Its working just the way I want it..  except for the webcam
[07:15] <LordKeiden> is there a way to limit the size of a directory?
[07:15] <ALL4N> LiENUS: and the webcam problem was there in edgy also
[07:15] <IceGuest_7> eh, I'm going to load windows again and backup my data
[07:15] <IceGuest_7> ugh, I thought I did already
[07:15] <IceGuest_7> damn
[07:15] <LiENUS> ALL4N, then ask in #ubuntu+1 this is not the channel for feisty support
[07:15] <LiENUS> and dont be surprised if no one helps
[07:16] <sexcopter> IceGuest_7: you should be able to back it up in the livecd
[07:16] <ALL4N> LiENUS: don't be so square, you were able to help me after all, right?
[07:16] <gb__> IceGuest_7: hi there
[07:16] <gb__> trying to dual boot sir?
[07:16] <IceGuest_7> sexcopter, I'm not going to take the chance with my thesis
[07:16] <LiENUS> ALL4N, ask in #ubuntu+1 for help with feisty this room isnt for help with feisty
[07:16] <IceGuest_7> gb, yes
[07:16] <IceGuest_7> :D
[07:16] <gb__> i have it here too
[07:16] <gb__> xp/ubuntu
[07:16] <LiENUS> ALL4N,  for all i know they've changed the package name to anal-bumlove-386
[07:16] <sexcopter> IceGuest_7: ok, no substitute for being careful
[07:17] <midgetg0a1> hrm..modprobe ndiswrapper made a bunch of stuff spit up at me
[07:17] <LiENUS> midgetg0a1, you might not be using a computer then, you might have mistaken a baby for a terminal
[07:17] <midgetg0a1> it's possible but i've had it for 8 months and havent had to change it once.
[07:17] <gb__> !XGL
[07:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:18] <ALL4N> LiENUS: sure, but I think most of the things would be the same though..  its not like you know the exact name of all the current packages in edgy either
[07:18] <LiENUS> ALL4N, actually i do
[07:18] <ALL4N> LiENUS: serious?
[07:18] <LiENUS> yes
[07:18] <LiENUS> its called synaptic
[07:18] <ALL4N> LiENUS: ALL the packages, by heart?
[07:18] <ALL4N> LiENUS: lol, I have synaptic in feisty also
[07:19] <LordKeiden> is there a way to limit the size of a directory?
[07:19] <LiENUS> ok?
[07:19] <gb__> lord not that i know off
[07:19] <gb__> sorry
[07:19] <LiENUS> LordKeiden,  to what end?
[07:19] <IceGuest_7> the whole purpose of getting used to linux for me is to get beryl
[07:19] <gb__> on partitions u can do though
[07:19] <dongs> "kernel: Out of socket memory" how to fix? my tcp-related sysctls are at http://rafb.net/p/sTGpbd20.html
[07:19] <IceGuest_7> screw vista!
[07:19] <LiENUS> LordElph,  theres a couple methods of doing it...
[07:20] <midgetg0a1> really need a hand w/ this guys, i was in the middle of working and now i'm stuck trying to get back on line w/ the box...
[07:20] <l2s> hi, i just installed ubuntu 6.10 on a dell 4 processor server, but i used to desktop edition to see what ubuntu is like, can you tell me if desktop 6.10 supports multiprocessor server out of the box
[07:20] <LordKeiden> right now, all I know is that beagle has a bug that causes it to eat all 20Gb of free disk space, and it does so by growing a single file in the tmp directory.
[07:21] <LiENUS> l2s, yes
[07:21] <mackinac> !smp
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <l2s> yes the desktop version will auto detect 4 processors?
[07:21] <LordKeiden> I'm thingking that it would be nice to know how to limit any dir on size so that i can chase the problem without needing to reboot every 7 minutes....
[07:22] <LiENUS> l2s, do cat /proc/cpu
[07:22] <l2s> k
[07:22] <LiENUS> err cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:22] <LiENUS> itl'l tell you how many cpus
[07:22] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: connectivity issues?
[07:22] <LiENUS> itl'l have a listing for each one
[07:22] <l2s> trying thanks
[07:22] <l2s> ubuntu did some amazng stuff on install
[07:22] <midgetg0a1> well..
[07:22] <midgetg0a1> i got mylaptop back today
[07:22] <l2s> even recognized a firewire drive attached during install
[07:22] <LiENUS> you really should reinstall the server version though
[07:22] <midgetg0a1> and hte nic has a new mac address, so i had to mess w/ the router to allow it
[07:22] <l2s> you cant run desktop easily as a server?
[07:22] <LiENUS> the server version is ~400mb with apache php and mysql
[07:22] <midgetg0a1> which took down my ubuntu box. which is the start of this mess.
[07:22] <LiENUS> and uses a special kernel optimized for serving
[07:23] <l2s> i want a gui
[07:23] <LiENUS> on a server?
[07:23] <midgetg0a1> somehow, wlan0 disappeared, and i cant seem to get ndiswrapper to see it again.
[07:23] <LiENUS> why?
[07:23] <l2s> im learning
[07:23] <LiENUS> the best place to learn is the command line
[07:23] <l2s> im not a linux hotshot yet
[07:23] <l2s> :)
[07:23] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: does it have to be wlan0?
[07:23] <ScribbleJ> When debootstrapping a ubuntu install, how do I enable shadow passwords?
[07:23] <midgetg0a1> i dont care what it is....thats just what it was
[07:23] <LiENUS> you're wasting ~500mb of space by using desktop install
[07:23] <LiENUS> plus ~128mb ram
[07:23] <midgetg0a1> oh man 500mb?
[07:23] <midgetg0a1> thats like 30c
[07:24] <Ironman273> I tried getting my Intellimouse to work and now I don't have any mouse.  Can I get some help with keyboard commands?
[07:24] <LiENUS> cheap server then
[07:24] <macd> not to mention the ram, cpu, and extra overhead from loaded BS kernel modules.
[07:24] <LiENUS> last server i bought i think i paid...10$  a gig
[07:24] <midgetg0a1> bulmer: ideas?
[07:24] <midgetg0a1> i just did it all again
[07:24] <tritium> !enter
[07:24] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:24] <l2s> i did cat /proc/cpu info
[07:24] <l2s> but all i see it say is processor 0
[07:25] <midgetg0a1> and when i ran modprobe ndiswrapper i got a ton of "stuff"
[07:25] <l2s> whats that mean?
[07:25] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: ideas for which? to change your router?
[07:25] <midgetg0a1> hah, no, router is solid
[07:25] <LiENUS> t only said procesor 0?
[07:25] <LiENUS> nothing else?
[07:25] <l2s> tons else
[07:25] <l2s> but not # of processors
[07:25] <LiENUS> it puts one listing per processor
[07:25] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: so where do you believe is the problem?
[07:25] <midgetg0a1> now it's a ubuntu issue....and now when i do sudo modprobe ndiswrapper it just hangs....same w/ ndiswrapper -l. But before i rebooted, it was correctly reporting that i had 2 drivers installed
[07:25] <l2s> only see one
[07:26] <l2s> so i guess desktop version doesnt auto do more than 1 proc
[07:26] <Ironman273> A little help here... :-|
[07:26] <LiENUS> how many timesm does it give model name?
[07:26] <macd> l2s, type "uname -a"  what kernel are you running?
[07:26] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: so where do you believe is the problem?
[07:26] <l2s> 2.6.15-26-386
[07:27] <macd> l2s, the 386 kernel does not have SMP support, if your running a coreduo or a dual proc system you need to install the SMP kernel.
[07:27] <midgetg0a1> somehow linux dropped my wifi dongle when the net went out.
[07:27] <l2s> model name is only given once
[07:27] <midgetg0a1> ndiswrapper is just hanging on everything...wont even list drivers....
[07:27] <gb__> i want XGL :(
[07:27] <LiENUS> macd,  you sure bout that?
[07:27] <Flannel> gb__: #ubuntu-effects
[07:27] <macd> LiENUS, yes.
[07:27] <l2s> its a quad processor system not dual cores
[07:27] <gb__> Flannel:  ty
[07:27] <gb__> Flannel:  long time
[07:27] <gb__> how r u man?
[07:28] <macd> l2s, Install the SMP kernel.
[07:28] <l2s> but its a bit old dell quad xeon 700 mhz
[07:28] <macd> l2s, Install the SMP kernel.
[07:28] <l2s> would the server cd install do it automatically
[07:28] <macd> no.
[07:28] <Flannel> gb__: doing fine
[07:28] <LordKeiden> is there a way to limit the size of a directory?
[07:28] <macd> its a one line command, "sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-smp"
[07:28] <l2s> ah
[07:28] <macd> l2s, then you will need to reboot.
[07:28] <l2s> ok let me reinstall server version and then try that?
[07:28] <LiENUS> LordElph,  to what ends?
[07:28] <Flannel> macd, l2s, which version of ubuntu we talking about?
[07:28] <l2s> 6.10 desktop
[07:29] <macd> 2.6.15 kernel, so one assumes dapper.
[07:29] <l2s> just downloaded it yesterday
[07:29] <macd> err, nvm dapper is 2.6.10?
[07:29] <LiENUS> nop
[07:29] <gb__> brb
[07:29] <LiENUS> dapper is 2.6.15
[07:29] <LordKeiden> LiENUS, are you asking me to what ends?
[07:29] <l2s> so i should resintall the server version then apt get the smp kernel?
[07:29] <Flannel> macd, l2s, dapper doesn't have SMP specific kernels, or at least, not for i386 family.  Just get the kernel for your proc (686), and it'll do SMP automatically
[07:29] <LiENUS> LordKeiden, whats the reason?
[07:29] <LordKeiden> right now, all I know is that beagle has a bug that causes it to eat all 20Gb of free disk space, and it does so by growing a single file in the tmp directory.
[07:29] <LordKeiden> I'm thingking that it would be nice to know how to limit any dir on size so that i can chase the problem without needing to reboot every 7 minutes....
[07:29] <LiENUS> l2s,  server version supports smp out of the box
[07:30] <midgetg0a1> hrm..i bet it's because i dont have the common stuff installed...
[07:30] <l2s> ok let me try that and see how far i get
[07:30] <macd> Flannel, I thought dapper stil have smp kernel? and edgy weas the first to merge the generic?
[07:30] <l2s> hope this works :)
[07:30] <LiENUS> macd,
[07:30] <l2s> does server version have a gui at all?
[07:30] <LiENUS> im running dapper server
[07:30] <Flannel> macd: Edgy phased out proc specific stuff (k7, 686, etc), Dapper phased out -SMP and non
[07:30] <LiENUS> it detected smp just fine
[07:30] <macd> ahhh.
[07:30] <LiENUS> l2s,
[07:30] <LiENUS> !pastebin | l2s
[07:30] <Flannel> so, anything EXCEPT -386 has SMP (well, assuming your proc supports it)
[07:30] <ubotu> l2s: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:31] <LiENUS> l2s, pastebin your /etc/cpuinfo
[07:31] <macd> l2s, then after your install you should "sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-686" to get SMP support for your machine.
[07:31] <l2s> that would be hard from here im on another pc typing to you
[07:31] <Ironman273> So can anyone help?
[07:31] <l2s> basically i want a rails box
[07:31] <Hasrat_USA> ladies and gentlemen, it's my pleasure and honor to announce to you that I have finally been able to replace Gaim with Gyachi Enhanced to chat in Yahoo chat rooms and have access to Voice Chat as well. The journey was rough though. I had to install several packages to solve dependency related issues. Anyone having trouble with finding, installing and using a full-featured yahoo client can contact me and i would love to help him/he
[07:31] <Hasrat_USA> r out, since i have the complete solution now. :)
[07:31] <LiENUS> l2s, rails?
[07:31] <l2s> ubuntu seemed to be what everyone said is best for it
[07:31] <l2s> ruby on rails
[07:32] <macd> l2s, I use dapper server for rails. apache2.2/mongrel/capistrano/svn
[07:32] <midgetg0a1> after i use synaptic to "completely remove" something, should i reboot before i install it again?
[07:32] <LiENUS> midgetg0a1, only if you're running windows
[07:32] <Flannel> midgetg0a1: no need, only time you need reboots is to change kernels
[07:32] <LordKeiden> LiENUS, right now, all I know is that beagle has a bug that causes it to eat all 20Gb of free disk space, and it does so by growing a single file in the tmp directory.
[07:32] <ardchoille> midgetg0a1: no
[07:32] <midgetg0a1> yea, so i thought, but it's fixed the ndiswrapper stuff in the past
[07:32] <LordKeiden> LiENUS, I'm thingking that it would be nice to know how to limit any dir on size so that i can chase the problem without needing to reboot every 7 minutes....
[07:32] <midgetg0a1> just curious what the thoughts were here
[07:32] <midgetg0a1> i'll reboot anyway
[07:32] <l2s> ok macd i will try to do the same, i have all the tutorials to get that stuff installed, im just a bit new to ubuntu, used to osx terminal
[07:32] <Ironman273> help.  My mouse is sick
[07:32] <LiENUS> LordKeiden, disable beagle then?
[07:33] <macd> l2s, I would get ubuntu 6.06 LTS rather than 6.10.
[07:33] <l2s> whys that
[07:33] <ardchoille> l2s: 6.06 is much more stable and supported longer
[07:33] <macd> if this is going ot be your rails server, you want a release that is supported/maintained for longer.
[07:33] <Ironman273> How do I access the "start" menu with a keyboard?
[07:33] <ardchoille> Ironman273: ALT+F1 ?
[07:34] <Flannel> Hasrat_USA: make a wiki page about it, that'd probably be the best way to disseminate the information
[07:34] <funStick> macd, do you have a cingular 8125?
[07:34] <LiENUS> l2s,  because 6.06 is supported for 5 years whilst 6.10's support ends in 1.5 months
[07:34] <l2s> ok i have that cd here
[07:34] <mtholdenss> translaton_en_us are failing in update..
[07:34] <macd> funStick, no.
[07:34] <funStick> strange question i know
[07:34] <macd> yeah that was from left field, I must say.
[07:34] <ardchoille> lol
[07:34] <funStick> k, just making sure you weren't someone i knew
[07:35] <funStick> http://youtube.com/watch?v=dL1n82eVM6g
[07:35] <l2s> ok its rebooting now and installing the 6.06 lts version
[07:35] <LordKeiden> LiENUS, well, that is the immediate solution, but if another app gets hungry, i'd like to curb its appetite while i figure out whats happening. i spent 2 days working in windows cuz i couldnt keep linux up and stable for more than 8 minutes...
[07:35] <funStick> nobody click that link
[07:35] <funStick> don't do it
[07:35] <l2s> thank you guys for the help
[07:35] <funStick> http://youtube.com/watch?v=dL1n82eVM6g
[07:35] <funStick> thats the one not to click
[07:35] <macd> l2s, not a problem, thats what the community is for.
[07:35] <ardchoille> funStick: Please stop, this is a support channel.
[07:35] <midgetg0a1> should i install both ndiswrapper-utils-1.1 and ndiswrapper utils-1.8?
[07:36] <l2s> Basically I need it to do dns, web, db all  in one  incl mail
[07:36] <l2s> Is there an ubuntu server setup guide you recc for ruby on rails and ubuntu in general?
[07:36] <LordKeiden> LiENUS, beagle has just brought to light a bit of disaster prevention stratagy I'd like to have.
[07:36] <mtholdenss> translaton_en_us are failing in update..
[07:36] <l2s> something for real noobs
[07:36] <macd> l2s, there is a nice howto on howtoforge the perfect ubuntu server, you should check it out.
[07:36] <yell0w> !lamp | l2s
[07:36] <ubotu> l2s: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:36] <l2s> great thanks
[07:36] <macd> yell0w, he doesnt want a lamp stack, rails + lamp = waste.
[07:37] <funStick> that is a support link
[07:37] <yell0w> oh,
[07:37] <funStick> it has good info
[07:37] <LiENUS> l2s,  you should move mail and dns to seperate server
[07:37] <funStick> http://youtube.com/watch?v=dL1n82eVM6g
[07:37] <yell0w> I thought he said dns, web, mail, all in one
[07:37] <funStick> there it is again
[07:37] <tritium> LordKeiden: you might consider additional partitions to avoid taht
[07:37] <tritium> funStick: stop now
[07:37] <l2s> yes i know but fornow its easier to use it on this box
[07:37] <l2s> i have sep windows dns servers etc
[07:37] <LiENUS> or at least use xen
[07:37] <l2s> im used to 2k3 and 2kserver
[07:37] <Ironman273> Can I please get some help troubleshooting my mouse
[07:37] <l2s> but am converting to the other side now :)
[07:38] <macd> l2s, linux can play nice with AD ;)
[07:38] <LordKeiden> tritium, i'm on a lappy, so adding another drive is challenging...  =)
[07:38] <tritium> LordKeiden: I didn't suggest a second drive
[07:38] <yell0w> LordKeiden,  there's duck tape you know
[07:38] <macd> Ironman273, what was your problem again?
[07:38] <l2s> was pretty impressed with ubuntus installer routines
[07:38] <midgetg0a1> ok, so now i'm getting "athfmwdl    driver installed, hardware present" and "neta5agu     driver installed, hardware present" but the dongle isnt lighting up :-/ do i have to start ndiswrapper somehow?
[07:38] <l2s> best ive seen from linux
[07:38] <l2s> ever
[07:38] <LordKeiden> yell0w, you say my last lappy?!
[07:39] <Ironman273> macd: I just finished upgrading to 6.10 and my mouse isn't working
[07:39] <yell0w> LordKeiden, <LordKeiden> tritium, i'm on a lappy, so adding another drive is challenging...  =
[07:39] <macd> Ironman273, I assume you have rebooted?
[07:39] <tritium> !enter > l2s
[07:39] <yell0w> :P
[07:39] <Ironman273> A couple times, some of them accidentally
[07:39] <macd> Ironhand, is this mouse usb or serial?
[07:39] <macd> or PS2, sorry.
[07:39] <Ironman273> macd: USB
[07:39] <macd> Ironman273, have you unplugged it? and plugged it back in?
[07:39] <LordKeiden> tritium, i did consider that, but that only works if an app eats in the dir on that partition...
[07:40] <LordKeiden> yell0w, my last lappy had a fair amount of duct tape!  =)
[07:40] <vanax_> can anybody help me install beryl?
[07:40] <l2s> macd is this the tutorial you recc: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[07:40] <midgetg0a1> just did: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ... did a bunch of stuff, but the last thing was "failed to bring up wlan0" - thoughts, ideas, suggestions - anyone??
[07:40] <macd> l2s, yessir.
[07:40] <ardchoille> vanax_: /join #ubuntu-effects
[07:41] <yell0w> LordKeiden, i was just kidding =))
[07:41] <hwdyki> i just install ubuntu using debootstrap. how do i boot to a graphical login?
[07:41] <l2s> do you also reccomend using ispconfig?
[07:41] <macd> l2s, when it gets into setting up apache and whatnot just disregard that and move on ya know? so you can setup your rails enviornment properly.
[07:41] <ScribbleJ> hwdyki, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" is easiest.
[07:41] <macd> l2s, I dont like all that extra "jazz"
[07:41] <LordKeiden> yell0w, good, this is a week old lappy, the wife would kill me!
[07:42] <ubuntu> hello
[07:42] <yell0w> LordKeiden, lol, definitely
[07:42] <l2s> So don't choose the lamp server option?
[07:42] <vanax> Can anybody help me get beryl working?
[07:42] <macd> l2s, no.
[07:42] <macd> vanax join #ubuntu-effects
[07:42] <Taime1> i have a silly question
[07:42] <Taime1> i installed a new usplash
[07:42] <Taime1> but it only works on shutdown
[07:42] <ScribbleJ> That's not a question.
[07:42] <Taime1> not when i boot
[07:43] <Taime1> what the heck?
[07:43] <midgetg0a1> bah, it's still hanging on loading, which means it's struggling w/ networking or something
[07:43] <midgetg0a1> '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit .........???
[07:43] <midgetg0a1> loading screen just jumped to that
[07:43] <macd> Taime1, you need to remove "quiet" from the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.1st
[07:43] <vanax> macd nobody answers in there
[07:43] <tritium> macd: no, he needs to rebuild his initrd
[07:43] <macd> vanax, well, you have to wait until someone does.
[07:44] <Taime1> wow, hoe the heck did you know that?
[07:44] <ness> hello
[07:44] <LordKeiden> what is a reasonable max for a tmp dir partition? 1Gb? More?
[07:44] <funStick> will someone play with me
[07:44] <cafuego> Taime1: You can do it via 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure <name of the kernel package>'
[07:44] <tritium> funStick: stay on topic
[07:44] <midgetg0a1> should i plug in my usb after i install ndiswrapper, the drivers and reboot?
[07:45] <midgetg0a1> no one cares to lend a hand? :(
[07:45] <Taime1> see....idid that
[07:45] <Taime1> but now it only works on shutdown
[07:45] <dynamicreflux> does anyone have the 945GM chipset driver working for intel with beryl on feisty?
[07:45] <yell0w> LordKeiden, one part just for /tmp ? @_@
[07:45] <macd> Taime1, ahh my mistake as pointed out by tritium , rebuild your initrd "sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img{uname -a}
[07:46] <Taime1> can i copy and paste that?
[07:46] <cafuego> Taime1: no.
[07:46] <macd> minus the "'s sure
[07:46] <cafuego> Taime1: sudo mkinitramfs -o
[07:46] <LordKeiden> yell0w, yeah....in an attempt to prevent a repeat of the last 3 days...
[07:46] <dynamicreflux> does anyone have the 945GM chipset driver working for intel with beryl on feisty?
[07:46] <macd> you cant embed the uname?
[07:46] <cafuego>                /boot/initrd.img-$(uname -r)
[07:46] <Taime1> okay, i am very new
[07:46] <pyrohotdog1> Can anyone assist in getting an NIS server going...
[07:46] <cafuego> macd: not with those brackets, no ;-)
[07:46] <tritium> dynamicreflux: wrong channel.  Ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:46] <Taime1> i totally missed something here
[07:46] <Ironman273> macd: I just unplugged it and plugged it back in and am still in the same situation.  Before my upgrade to 6.10 I had installed imwheel
[07:47] <_84Z00K4_> hey guys big noob here anyone can help me with wireless setings?
[07:47] <macd> Ironman273, Im not real sure if that did not help, stick around for a while, someone will come along that knows what you need todo.
[07:47] <_84Z00K4_> cant get my card to run on ubuntu?
[07:48] <macd> cafuego, see what I get for using tsch ;)
[07:48] <LordKeiden> _84Z00K4_, what card? in a lappy or desktop?
[07:48] <macd> tcsh even
[07:48] <Hasrat_USA> if i downloaded, for say, blahblahblah_0.9.blah.deb in /home/hasrat and later on installed it by typing sudo dpkg -i blahblahblah_0.9.blah.deb, where would the executable and other files go? in which folder?
[07:48] <_84Z00K4_> desktop a dwl-g520 with atheros chipset
[07:48] <pyrohotdog1> When I run sudo /usr/lib/yp/ypinit -m I get makefile errors?
[07:48] <tritium> Hasrat_USA: dpkg -L <packagename> will tell you
[07:49] <_84Z00K4_> during the instalation the card is recognised and im prompted to enter wep and other information
[07:49] <Taime1> im sorry...can one of you give me the command for that which i can cut and paste?
[07:49] <_84Z00K4_> but after the install the card isnt there anymore -_-
[07:49] <cafuego> Taime1: sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-$(uname -r)
[07:49] <Taime1> thank you so much
[07:49] <macd> Taime1, sudo mkinitramfs -o  /boot/initrd.img-$(uname -r)
[07:50] <macd> heh, pasting blind again.
[07:50] <LordKeiden> _84Z00K4_, do a google for "atheros wireless ubuntu" . I googled for my wireless on my lappy (broadcom in a presario) and i found the howto in just a few minutes...
[07:50] <_84Z00K4_> i will try for the 100th time lol
[07:51] <l2s> one q the live cd isnt the server cd correct
[07:51] <cile> hello
[07:51] <l2s> the install interface should be different than the desktop one right?
[07:51] <Flannel> l2s: correct.  The serverCD is textmode, like the alternate CD
[07:51] <l2s> ok
[07:51] <LordKeiden> _84Z00K4_, lol...ok l'll give it a go... do u have network manager installed?
[07:52] <_84Z00K4_> no, got ubuntu server
[07:52] <EdibleEgg> anyone got any tips for getting BCM4360 wireless card to work with 6.10(EdgyEft) if you don't have an ethernet connection
[07:52] <EdibleEgg> Currently dual booting with xp, so i can download stuff through xp
[07:52] <midgetg0a1> get a thumbdrive?
[07:52] <cile> help tv tuner card match
[07:52] <midgetg0a1> nice nice..
[07:52] <FlickMyBic> wait til your card is supported?
[07:52] <macd> EdibleEgg, you can download the packages from another machine and burn a CD, then use dpkg to install those.
[07:52] <midgetg0a1> i'm struggling w/ my own card issues egg...it was working 2 hours ago
[07:52] <midgetg0a1> for 8 months..
[07:52] <midgetg0a1> then a no go
[07:52] <LordKeiden> _84Z00K4_, ok. u said the card disapeared?
[07:53] <_84Z00K4_> really strange iwconfig doesnt list the card, even tho it was there at install
[07:53] <_84Z00K4_> yeah
[07:53] <EdibleEgg> macd, well i need to know how to get all the packages, i actually have a shared FAT32 partition so I can just pass files between that
[07:53] <macd> EdibleEgg, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:53] <oneyozfest182> hey I need help getting Beryl to stay as my window manager. I right click and choose beryl instead of gnome, my screen flickers a bit, and it stays as gnome
[07:54] <Flannel> oneyozfest182: #ubuntu-effects for Beryl support
[07:54] <LordKeiden> _84Z00K4_, u using ndiswrapper?
[07:54] <macd> oneyozfest182, you should ask in #ubuntu-effects
[07:54] <EdibleEgg> thank you macd
[07:54] <_84Z00K4_> i dont know, just the fresh install from the server version of ubuntu
[07:54] <oneyozfest182> I'm a noob I admit, so do I /join #ubuntu-effects?
[07:54] <Flannel> oneyozfest182: yep
[07:54] <macd> oneyozfest182, yep
[07:55] <dynamicreflux> where is the feisty channel
[07:55] <tritium> !feisty
[07:55] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:55] <Flannel> dynamicreflux: #ubuntu+1
[07:56] <bulmer> _84Z00K4_: what does ip a  shows?
[07:56] <_84Z00K4_> 1: lo:...
[07:56] <LordKeiden> _84Z00K4_, I'm no expert, but i would try using ndiswrapper and the windows driver, unless your googleing has pointed you to an open sourced driver, that works.
[07:57] <midgetg0at> Error for wireless request "Set ESSI" : SET failed on device wlan0 ; no such device.
[07:57] <bulmer> _84Z00K4_: on l0 ?
[07:57] <_84Z00K4_> as far as iv read its supposed to work of the bat
[07:57] <midgetg0at> THere is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.wlan0.pid with pid 134993416
[07:57] <bulmer> _84Z00K4_: only lo ?
[07:57] <_84Z00K4_> but ppl usually have problem if the have wep enabeled
[07:57] <_84Z00K4_> as i do
[07:57] <midgetg0at> SIOCSIFADDR: No such request
[07:57] <midgetg0at> wlan0: ERROR whilte getting interface flags: No such device
[07:57] <midgetg0at> thos msgs help anyone?
[07:57] <_84Z00K4_> tho they all seem to have diff solutions (which dont work for me) and some just dont work
[07:58] <macd> !pastebin | midgetg0a1   ;)
[07:58] <ubotu> midgetg0a1   ;): pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:58] <LordKeiden> _84Z00K4_, then I'll stop trying to help. mine was a major PITA. Yours sounds too easy...
[07:58] <_84Z00K4_> bulmer yes
[07:58] <midgetg0at> yea, cant really paste bin at the moment...
[07:58] <crazy_pat> hi, can anyone help a newb? i require access to a ntfs disk on my system but i dont have the disks menu in system/administration/disks
[07:58] <gb__> Flannel: u there?
[07:58] <midgetg0at> my ubuntu box is on my left, my laptop is on my lap
[07:58] <LordKeiden> _84Z00K4_, I even read that mine didnt work at all in any flavor...
[07:58] <gb__> i did try all that
[07:59] <gb__> X wont boot
[07:59] <midgetg0at> kinda hard w/o a network device working...just asking for a little sympathy :)
[07:59] <bulmer> _84Z00K4_: you have loaded the drivers for your specific wifi card?
[07:59] <gb__> on dapper here
[07:59] <midgetg0at> yes
[07:59] <midgetg0at> only, ndiswrapper -l hangs if i reboot after i load them.
[07:59] <midgetg0at> not quite sure what that means, but i'm assuming it's not great
[07:59] <_84Z00K4_> bulmer no
[07:59] <midgetg0at> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart sees wlan0 but cant start it.
[08:00] <gb__> any1?
[08:00] <_84Z00K4_> i assume ubuntu is supposed to do that on its own since it was able to recognise and config my card during install
[08:00] <bulmer> _84Z00K4_: do it anyways
[08:00] <_84Z00K4_> how do i do that please?
[08:01] <midgetg0at> hwo do i kill a process if i have the pid?
[08:01] <midgetg0at> kill xxxx?
[08:01] <bulmer> _84Z00K4_: which chip?
[08:01] <_84Z00K4_> atheros
[08:01] <bulmer> _84Z00K4_: you need to respond with my nick or else im going to miss it
[08:01] <midgetg0at> wow, am i just not asking right? 84 comes in and gets help w/ his networking instantly..i'm here for over an hour pleeding...
[08:01] <_84Z00K4_> bulmer ok sorry
[08:02] <eL_ZaYa> wep
[08:02] <gb__> any1 guys?
[08:02] <gb__> !xgl
[08:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:03] <Lucifell> midgetg0a1, try kill -9 <pid>
[08:03] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: i tried to help you earlier, but you were not responding with my nick so i dont know if you were paying attention or not
[08:04] <hwdyki> how do i rename my ethernet interface?
[08:04] <cafuego> to what?
[08:05] <hwdyki> anything.
[08:05] <cafuego> you can't
[08:05] <cafuego> well, you could hack the driver
[08:05] <hwdyki> you can with ifrename.
[08:05] <cafuego> but i don't see the point
[08:05] <midgetg0at> bulmer: sorry...heh
[08:05] <hwdyki> but how do i do it with the interface config file?
[08:06] <midgetg0at> bulmer: i jsut completely removed all ndis packages, i'm rebooting
[08:06] <_84Z00K4_> since during the installation ubuntu was "configuring" my ethernet device i assume it must have saved the configuration somewhere, how would i access that?
[08:06] <cafuego> hwdyki: Oh, from eth1 to eth2 etc, via /etc/iftab
[08:06] <midgetg0at> bulmer: where do you suggest i start when gnome loads
[08:06] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: umm..network manager perhaps
[08:06] <midgetg0at> bulmer: i cant even boot w/ the usb dongle plugged in - it just craps out at the loading screen
[08:07] <harika> k
[08:07] <l2s> oh boy - error says host controller processor error something really bad happened
[08:07] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: does it require to have your usb dongle to boot? why not unplugged it?
[08:07] <l2s> Strange because desktop installed just fien on teh system
[08:07] <midgetg0at> well, i just did
[08:08] <midgetg0at> bulmer: but when it was working, it would start up (lights on) instantly
[08:08] <harika> kishore
[08:08] <brianski> hmm
[08:08] <kishore> harika, ya
[08:08] <kishore> harika, got it
[08:08] <harika> okk
[08:08] <midgetg0at> bulmer: i'm not sure what to do at Devices - Network tools...cards unplugged and drivers arent in ndis...i'm guessing install :)
[08:08] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: i dont know, get a system boot up first
[08:08] <kishore> harika, now come there
[08:08] <l2s> macd any ideas?
[08:08] <midgetg0at> yea, i'm in now, i have been in.
[08:08] <brianski> update manager doesn't appear in my notifications area for the past few weeks, despite their being updates available if you run apt-get update ; apt-get --no-act upgrade  - anyone have any ideas on how to fix?
[08:08] <midgetg0at> bulmer: it just annoys me that i cant boot w/ it
[08:09] <macd> l2s, the actual error would help
[08:09] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: you have in your Bios, set to boot from USB?
[08:09] <l2s> Thats actually what i said, i will go back and get the rest of it now for you.
[08:09] <midgetg0at> no no, i'm not talking usb thumb drive, my wifi card is a usb dongle
[08:10] <midgetg0at> i just meant, ubuntu would fire it up as soon as the loading screen came on.
[08:10] <l2s> May I msg you privately so not to flood teh channel
[08:10] <_84Z00K4_> here is another funny thing, when i do: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, i get a a few werrors like "SET failed on device ath0 ; No such device."
[08:10] <macd> !pastebin | l2s
[08:10] <ubotu> l2s: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:10] <midgetg0at> same here _84
[08:10] <_84Z00K4_> heh
[08:11] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: you are already booted right? so now time to plug-in your usb wifi
[08:11] <_84Z00K4_> tho ath0 was there during install
[08:11] <midgetg0at> bulmer: drivers arent installed
[08:11] <midgetg0at> bulmer: i had uninstalled ndiswrapper and rebooted
[08:11] <midgetg0at> i'm reinstalling ndiswrapper and am going to load the drivers.
[08:11] <macd> midgetg0at, its atheros ?
[08:12] <Ironman273> What's a good media player?
[08:12] <midgetg0at> macd: i believe so. that name is soo familiar.
[08:12] <midgetg0at> i'ts a dlink G-132
[08:12] <wastedtime> I cant seem to make the xserver work in the live CD. I tried reconfiguring it too.. are there any other solutions.. i have a toshiba p105-s6024
[08:12] <midgetg0at> heh, drivers are showing installed already even after a full uninstall and reboot.
[08:12] <macd> midgetg0at, yes its atheros, dont use ndiswrapper, just "sudo modprobe atheros" then plug it in.
[08:13] <midgetg0at> lovely.....
[08:13] <midgetg0at> oh..
[08:13] <Ironman273> Is there a webpage that lists suggestions for different tyeps of applications in Linux?
[08:13] <midgetg0at> hah, ok, so remove ndiswrapper?
[08:13] <macd> yes.
[08:13] <midgetg0at> k, sec.
[08:13] <macd> Ironman273, http://www.linuxeq.com/
[08:13] <Ironman273> macd: Thanks
[08:14] <midgetg0at> macd: FATAL: Module atheros not found.
[08:14] <_84Z00K4_> im starting to think that linux isnt ready for wifi yet, tried installing this on two diffrent distros over the past week and still no luck
[08:14] <clearzen> _84Z00K4_:what kind of card?
[08:14] <midgetg0at> _84..i am having problems now...but this exact card was working for about 8 months up until 3 hours ago.
[08:14] <midgetg0at> macd: any idea why i get module atheros not found? how to make it found?
[08:14] <macd> midgetg0at, yeah I gave you the wrong name use ath_pci
[08:15] <midgetg0at> :)
[08:15] <_84Z00K4_> dlink wireless, dwl-g520
[08:15] <bulmer> _84Z00K4_: would you have guessed that lots of these soho routers have linux in them as the kernel?  :)
[08:15] <midgetg0at> ty
[08:15] <Ironman273> macd: Any recommendation for a media player? (mostly for music, not videos)
[08:15] <macd> midgetg0at, or more approriatly ath_usb ;)
[08:15] <_84Z00K4_> its a fairly common card strange that it isnt plug and play
[08:15] <midgetg0at> er...which is it?
[08:15] <midgetg0at> heh
[08:15] <Prez_> someone running edgy with <IP_ADDRESS> and ipw3945 wifi?  can't get 3945 drivers compiled
[08:15] <macd> Ironman273, amaroK is great, rythmbox work nice
[08:15] <clearzen> _84Z00K4_: have you tried to compile the svn source for the driver?
[08:15] <midgetg0at> macd: ath_usb was not found, but ath_pci was
[08:15] <Ironman273> macd: thanks again. sorry being such a pain
[08:15] <midgetg0at> dongle still has no lights on it.
[08:16] <l2s> macd - I tried to type most of it I am not pasting from the box that is installing so : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7167/
[08:16] <krinns> hi all
[08:16] <krinns> i need to purchase a thum scanner
[08:17] <bulmer> midgetg0at: see if any atheros drivers is in  /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/
[08:17] <macd> l2s, thats a ppweredge, what raid card does it have perc2 or 3?
[08:17] <krinns> whch model or barnd should i go for
[08:17] <l2s> 3 i believe
[08:17] <_84Z00K4_> clearzen: no and sorry to say i have no idea what that is, this is my first experience working wifi with linux, so far its been wired and worked on the go
[08:17] <bh_> How do I tell apt to keep a package and not remove it without using hold ?
[08:17] <l2s> sorry it is perc 2
[08:17] <macd> l2s, did it see the volumes when you partitioned?
[08:17] <midgetg0at> bulmer: not from what i can tell
[08:18] <midgetg0at> but there is a acx folder
[08:18] <bh_> anybody ?
[08:18] <midgetg0at> and one of the tutorials i read said to "blacklist" acx
[08:18] <l2s> with the desktop cd it saw everything and worked perfectly
[08:18] <bulmer> midgetg0at: those are texas instrument chips ACX111 kind
[08:18] <macd> l2s, with the server install, did you get to the partition portion of the install....did it see the disk(s)
[08:18] <krinns> creative
[08:18] <midgetg0at> gocha, i dont see anything about atheros though.
[08:18] <clearzen> _84Z00K4_: What you need is the atheros drivers
[08:18] <bulmer> midgetg0at: am using ACX right now..so i didnt blacklist it
[08:19] <krinns> VistaPro
[08:19] <krinns> Livecame VistaIM
[08:19] <krinns> Instant Skype
[08:19] <krinns> LivePro
[08:19] <krinns> LiveUltra
[08:19] <krinns> which one works
[08:19] <_84Z00K4_> clearzen: im checking it out in /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/ like bulmer said right now
[08:19] <l2s> the raid initialized perfectly as well and formatted easily. Now if i let hte machine sit it then started the blue install menu's after it errored and waited a long time. I have not seen the partition menu as of yet
[08:19] <slap_me> how would i go about changing the partition size of my ubuntu, and giving some more to windows?
[08:20] <midgetg0at> bulmer: where do i get those drivers?
[08:20] <macd> l2s, ahhhh, I see now, try rebooting and starting the install over.... if it continues, its possible you have 1. a bad burn (burn slower)
[08:20] <macd> slap_me, use "gparted"
[08:20] <slap_me> i tried that once
[08:20] <slap_me> wouldnt let me for some reason
[08:20] <bulmer> midgetg0at: i dont know where to get madwifi..maybe you need to google for it
[08:20] <slap_me> i dropped ubuntu down
[08:20] <l2s> curious, ok will try
[08:20] <slap_me> the unalocated space wouldnt let me add to windows
[08:21] <macd> slap_me, that is how you do it, the exact error you had would be extremely helpful in diagnosing your problem.
[08:21] <midgetg0at> bulmer: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2541597#post2541597 that post look about right - the 1-7?
[08:21] <slap_me> mm
[08:21] <slap_me> now i need to go to linux partition
[08:21] <slap_me> heh
[08:21] <macd> slap_me, if you have partition magic you can do it from within windows.
[08:21] <macd> nvm.
[08:22] <bulmer> midgetg0at: i dont know..can you try dmesg | grep ath
[08:22] <midgetg0at> bulmer: give me a sec to type that...i've got no copy paste...
[08:23] <l2s> Reburning now, never seen a bad burn from my powerbook before but will try
[08:23] <NoEvidenZ> !telnetd
[08:23] <ubotu> telnetd: The telnet server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-32 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 140 kB
[08:24] <midgetg0at> [17180106.472000]  ath_hal: <IP_ADDRESS> (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
[08:24] <midgetg0at> [17180106.520000]  ath_rate_sample: 1.2 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[08:24] <midgetg0at> [17190106.524000]  ath_pci: <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[08:24] <NoEvidenZ> !paste | midgetg0at
[08:24] <ubotu> midgetg0at: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:24] <midgetg0at> heh, i cant paste, see the above message....
[08:24] <NoEvidenZ> O.o
[08:24] <midgetg0at> no net on problem = my apologize, and hopefully your understanding
[08:24] <bulmer> midgetg0at: you key there is the 1st one..it is recognized by your mobo
[08:25] <midgetg0at> bulmer: ok...so why you think ubuntu isnt doing anything w/ it?
[08:25] <NoEvidenZ> oh dude.. Wireless. I'm sorry to hear, midgetg0at.
[08:25] <midgetg0at> it was working for ~8 months
[08:25] <_84Z00K4_> bmidgetg0at how did you get that output?
[08:25] <midgetg0at> and just died 3 horus ago when i took down my router.
[08:26] <bulmer> midgetg0at: it just recognized it, it has not loaded a driver for it
[08:26] <kski_> can anybody help me install a prism2 usb wireless card?
[08:26] <midgetg0at> bulmer: ok, so you're suggesting i do?
[08:26] <bulmer> midgetg0at: to get the usb card to work yes..you need to load the driver for it
[08:27] <midgetg0at> ok, but i dont know how to do that...
[08:27] <midgetg0at> before, it just worked w/ ndiswrapper - now you're suggesting i dont use that?
[08:27] <macd> should there be a #ubuntu-wifi channel ;)
[08:27] <midgetg0at> yea, no doubt macd
[08:27] <macd> midgetg0at, does it show in "lspci" ?
[08:27] <kski_> i get this error message in dmesg, i'm not sure what it means [17179593.808000]  prism2usb_init: prism2_usb.o: 0.2.5 Loaded
[08:27] <bulmer> midgetg0at: am not suggesting you dont use ndiswrapper, am suggesting a driver be loaded :)
[08:27] <kski_> [17179593.808000]  prism2usb_init: dev_info is: prism2_usb
[08:27] <kski_> [17179593.848000]  usbcore: registered new driver prism2_usb
[08:27] <kski_> [17179594.084000]  ieee80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'NULL'
[08:27] <kski_> [17179594.088000]  ieee80211: 802.11 data/management/control stack, git-1.1.13
[08:27] <kski_> [17179594.088000]  ieee80211: Copyright (C) 2004-2005 Intel Corporation<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:27] <kski_> [17179595.024000]  hfa384x_usbctlx_complete_sync: CTLX[1]  error: state(Request failed)
[08:27] <kski_> [17179595.024000]  hfa384x_drvr_start: cmd_initialize() failed, result=-5
[08:28] <Madpilot> !paste | kski_
[08:28] <ubotu> kski_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:28] <midgetg0at>  no
[08:28] <matty_1> Hey does anyone know how to make my USB hard drive not mount as read only - thanks
[08:28] <macd> matty_1, is it formatted NTFS ?
[08:28] <midgetg0at> bulmer: ok...if i reinstall ndiswrapper yet again, care to help me debug that?
[08:28] <kski_> [17179595.024000]  prism2sta_ifstate: hfa384x_drvr_start() failed,result=-5
[08:28] <kski_> [17179596.024000]  hfa384x_usbctlx_complete_sync: CTLX[1]  error: state(Request failed)
[08:28] <kski_> [17179596.024000]  hfa384x_drvr_start: cmd_initialize() failed, result=-5
[08:28] <kski_> [17179596.024000]  prism2sta_ifstate: hfa384x_drvr_start() failed,result=-5
[08:28] <Madpilot> matt1__, is it formatted w/ NTFS?
[08:29] <macd> Madpilot, nice autocomplete got me too ;P
[08:29] <Madpilot> kski_, do NOT paste more than two or three lines here. No exceptions.
[08:29] <midgetg0at> should i install ndiswrapper-utils-1.1 or ndiswrapper-utils-1.8.?
[08:29] <matty_1> hmm, that may be the problem madpilot - if it is should i copy files across then reimage it fat32?
[08:29] <bulmer> midgetg0at: am a bit rusty on ndiswrapper...hang on, let me think what else i may suggest
[08:29] <midgetg0at> ok, no worries, much appreciated.
[08:29] <macd> midgetg0at, man you should be able to just use the kernel atheros drivers, but meh if ndiswrapper works go with it.
[08:30] <midgetg0at> macd: by use, you mean?
[08:30] <midgetg0at> modprobe ath_pci?
[08:30] <Madpilot> matty_1, if it's NTFS, there really isn't a reliable, totally safe way to write to NTFS from Linux. Reformatting it to fat32 might be a good idea.
[08:30] <midgetg0at> and then just plugging in the card?
[08:30] <macd> yes
[08:30] <matty_1> Madpilot: Thanks for your help!
[08:30] <bulmer> macd: whats the name of those kernel atheros drivers?
[08:30] <macd> ath_pci and ath_usb
[08:30] <midgetg0at> ath_usb is not found.
[08:31] <macd> yeah Im not sure whats up with that, it is on edgy here.
[08:31] <macd> 2.6.17-11
[08:31] <midgetg0at> same...
[08:31] <midgetg0at> well, wtf?!? i'm going nuts over here
[08:32] <midgetg0at> do i somehow *start* ndiswrapper?
[08:32] <dan__> type ndiswrapper
[08:32] <dan__> in terminal to start
[08:33] <l2s> macd tried 2 burns, am trying one last one but same erros on both disks
[08:33] <midgetg0at> hrm...that just comes up w/ the options..
[08:33] <dan__> right....
[08:33] <dan__> the u have to load the driver
[08:33] <macd> l2s, man not really sure then tbh, you could post a bug on launchpad ....
[08:33] <dan__> then*
[08:33] <midgetg0at> yes, i've done that 12 times
[08:33] <midgetg0at> :-/
[08:33] <midgetg0at> but it always hangs when i do ndiswrapper -l after a reboot
[08:33] <l2s> weird cause its a stock dell 6350
[08:33] <dan__> do ndiswrapper -l
[08:33] <dan__> hrrrrm
[08:33] <dan__> reinstall it
[08:33] <midgetg0at> heh, i know right ;)
[08:34] <midgetg0at> thast where the 12 times comes from
[08:34] <l2s> and 6.10 did just fine with it, 6.06 server doesnt even see the network card
[08:34] <midgetg0at> i've been reinstalling all night
[08:34] <dan__> bang ur head on a really hard surface 100xs
[08:34] <macd> l2s, yeah its right wierd, but they do run different kernels, as well as udev, libtls, and evms differences.
[08:34] <l2s> i guess will have to run 6.10 desktop as a server then
[08:34] <midgetg0at> I dont have any hard surfaces where they put me because of this
[08:35] <l2s> can the desktop version run the smp kernel?
[08:35] <macd> l2s, get the 6.10 alternate install CD, then install server.
[08:35] <bulmer> midgetg0at: which brand of usb wifi you have?
[08:35] <midgetg0at> Dlink DWL-G132
[08:35] <midgetg0at> and keep in mind - it was working at 11pm..
[08:35] <midgetg0at> and not just for a minute, i had it working for 8 months.
[08:35] <macd> has anyone seen and NFS mount not show in 'df' but it is really mounted and able to be accessed?
[08:36] <l2s> if it allows the smp kernel to run in desktop then id be ok with that
[08:36] <macd> midgetg0at, nahh you just didnt see your ethernet cable plugged in ;P
[08:36] <macd> l2s, it sure does.
[08:36] <midgetg0at> hah, i nkow right...
[08:36] <l2s> i guess i will go with that then till they fix whatever it is thats broken in 6.06 lts
[08:36] <midgetg0at> k....so this is what iv'e got
[08:36] <midgetg0at> ndiswrapper -l
[08:37] <midgetg0at> athfmwdl     driver installed, hardware present
[08:37] <macd> l2s, please submit a bug too, so that it can get fixed, http://launchpad.net
[08:37] <midgetg0at> neta5agu    driver installe,d hadrware present
[08:37] <midgetg0at> but no lights on the dongle...no net activity...
[08:37] <l2s> ok will do
[08:37] <l2s> im happy to let them use the server itself to see if that would be of help
[08:38] <macd> make sure and include the exact error message, and when you get 6.10 installed get the output of "lspci" and include that
[08:38] <midgetg0at> modprobe ndiswrapper issued no errors
[08:39] <NoEviden2> Oh awesome..
[08:39] <bulmer> midgetg0at: what does iwconfig tells you now?
[08:39] <midgetg0at> lists about 6 things, all say no wireless extensions. below them
[08:39] <midgetg0at> and no mention of the previously existing wlan0
[08:39] <Ironman273> What the hell do I do with a "tarball"?
[08:40] <NoEvidenZ> Ironman273: You untar it.
[08:40] <midgetg0at> or you can throw it over the castle wall.
[08:40] <Ironman273> NoEvidenZ: OK, but to where?
[08:40] <NoEvidenZ> Ironman273: try tar xvvf <filename>
[08:40] <christopher> how can I get the total size of all the files in a directory (and all subdirectories) via command line?
[08:40] <Flannel> !compile | Ironman273
[08:40] <ubotu> Ironman273: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:41] <kidbuntu> how do i change rpm package to deb?
[08:41] <bulmer> midgetg0at: you need to use ndiswrapper -a   to specify the device id..
[08:41] <Flannel> kidbuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[08:41] <JaccoH> kidbuntu .. alien
[08:41] <Ironman273> Flannel: Thanks
[08:42] <pirothezero> !alien | kidbuntu
[08:42] <ubotu> kidbuntu: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:42] <bulmer> christopher: maybe you look into du -h
[08:42] <midgetg0at> bulmer: ndiswrapper doesnt have a d option - at least mine doesnt
[08:42] <midgetg0at> bulmer: also, where do i find this device id?
[08:42] <bulmer> midgetg0at: its "ndiswrapper -a"
[08:42] <midgetg0at> wow, i'm brain dead
[08:42] <midgetg0at> it does have d
[08:42] <pirothezero> kidbuntu: in other words sudo apt-get install alien then do alien -i filename.rpm
[08:42] <christopher> thanks bulmer
[08:43] <midgetg0at> bulmer: ok, so um, how do i find my devid?
[08:43] <kidbuntu> ok thanks everyone
[08:43] <bulmer> midgetg0at: lsusb ?
[08:43] <midgetg0at> dlink corp :)
[08:44] <midgetg0at> ok, so: ndiswrapper -d 2001:3a03
[08:44] <bulmer> midgetg0at: you ever visited the ndiswrapper web site? it list all these chips and options
[08:44] <bulmer> for the command
[08:45] <midgetg0at> ok, so this is what i just did..
[08:45] <Blacken> Question: I've got a project on which I want to use an Ubuntu-based distro (well, two, actually--the primary one right now making a dedicated Internet terminal for a library near campus). I need to be able to lock down GNOME or KDE to the point where the only application that WILL run is Firefox, and will remain on at all times. Can anyone point me in the right direction to begin this?
[08:45] <midgetg0at> ndiswrapper -d 2001:3a03 athfmwdl
[08:45] <midgetg0at> and i got
[08:45] <midgetg0at> Driver 'athfmwdl' is used for '2001-3a03'
[08:45] <midgetg0at> should i do the same for hte other driver iv'e got loaded in there?
[08:45] <eric> does anyone here know anythng about Linux Mint?? (ubuntu derivative)
[08:46] <Ironman273> Why would I get a message that "no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"?
[08:47] <kidbuntu> pirothezero: after doing that, where did the file go?
[08:47] <Blacken> Ironman273: Check your $path for gcc.
[08:47] <Flannel> Ironman273: you don't have build-essential installed
[08:47] <eric> does anyone here know anythng about Linux Mint?? (ubuntu derivative)
[08:47] <pirothezero> kidbuntu: it auto installs the package as if it was in the reposistory pretty much
[08:47] <NoEvidenZ> Ironman273: apt-get install build-essential
[08:47] <bulmer> midgetg0at: now look at the end of /var/log/messages  ..does it mention anything about your ath card?
[08:47] <kraut> moin
[08:47] <pirothezero> so you should be able to use the command in cli to start the application
[08:47] <midgetg0at> bulmer: what is "SIOCIFADDR: No sugh device" about?
[08:47] <midgetg0at> sec..
[08:47] <Blacken> !repeat | eric
[08:47] <ubotu> eric: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:48] <NoEvidenZ> !patience
[08:48] <kidbuntu> pirothezero: you mean to say that, like i "sudo apt-get install" the package?
[08:48] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:48] <Flannel> Blacken: theres some Kiosk howtos around.  Uh, but I can't seem to find any of the ones I was thinking of.
[08:48] <bulmer> midgetg0at: cant recall..but it seems it has no ip address
[08:48] <Flannel> Blacken: but, that's probably the keyword you're looking for, kiosk, that is
[08:48] <midgetg0at> bulmer: i see a lot of "reset high speed usb device using ehci_hcd and address 9" for the past hour.
[08:49] <Blacken> Flannel: Ah! Of course. None too bright at 3AM. Thank you. :)
[08:49] <kidbuntu> !alien
[08:49] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:49] <Flannel> Blacken: I'd check the ubuntu forums, since the wiki doesn't seem to have anything
[08:50] <midgetg0at> bulmer: it doesnt have any lights on either.
[08:50] <bulmer> midgetg0at:  "SIOCIFADDR: No sugh device"  on the log file?
[08:50] <kidbuntu> pirothezero: is there a seperate package that i could download for 6.10, or is it already installed?
[08:50] <Blacken> Flannel: Yeah, I posted there regarding my other project (which is my business one; this one's a community-service project with a bunch of old junker PCs I have lying around). Thank you for your help. :)
[08:50] <Ironman273> So apparently installing something like Brasero is a serious undertaking?
[08:50] <midgetg0at> bulmer: no, no mention of siocifaddr
[08:50] <midgetg0at> only mention of ath_ is when i pasted you that stuff earlier.
[08:50] <bulmer> midgetg0at: you have your own AP to connect to?
[08:51] <midgetg0at> bulmer: ap?
[08:51] <midgetg0at> oh right
[08:51] <midgetg0at> yea, i do
[08:51] <midgetg0at> i'm on the wifi w/ this notebook right now.
[08:51] <Flannel> Blacken: you have the howto regarding liveCD customization, right?
[08:51] <bulmer> midgetg0at: now if you launch your network-manager, does it recognize your wifi card now?
[08:51] <Blacken> Flannel: Not offhand; I was tempted to actually just roll my own (I've done it before). There's a howto for it?
[08:52] <midgetg0at> by network manager you mean? i ahve "networking" and "network tools" in the admin menu
[08:52] <bulmer> Blacken: umm DSL or damn small linux maybe something you can look into also
[08:52] <Flannel> Blacken: er, if it's a liveCD, does kiosk really matter?  I guess to stop people from running other programs... You could always just literally not have anything else on the liveCD
[08:52] <Flannel> Blacken: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06
[08:52] <Blacken> Flannel: Problem is, you can still drop to tty and do all sorts of things I don't want them to do.
[08:53] <Blacken> These are librarians--by which I mean stereotypical Aunt Tillies.
[08:53] <Flannel> Blacken: like what?
[08:53] <macd> Blacken, you could also just install X and modify firefox so that it only runs in fullscreen mode i.e. without the toolbar
[08:53] <Flannel> Blacken: create a user?  I guess mount the harddrive.  But... not if they didn't have HDDs
[08:53] <macd> I believe you can also use the settings to "remoave" certain items from the menus
[08:53] <Blacken> macd: Hmm, there's an idea. I hadn't thought of that...
[08:54] <Mena> Hi, any one uses superkaramba
[08:54] <Blacken> Mena: #kubuntu
[08:54] <Mena> Blacken, ok
[08:54] <Ironman273> Why would I get this error when I "./configure"? checking for python >= 2.3... okay
[08:54] <Ironman273> checking for headers required to compile python extensions... not found
[08:54] <Ironman273> configure: error: could not find Python headers
[08:54] <Flannel> Blacken: If it is a liveCD, and you're looknig to create your own, I'd just tweak it all-- remove TTYs, uninstall almost everything, etc
[08:55] <midgetg0a1> bak - sorry, took of mac id filtering on my router even though it shouldnt be a problem.
[08:55] <midgetg0a1> i've got the network monitor icon in one of my panels...
[08:56] <AzMoo> Hey, does anybody know how I can connect to a pptp vpn connection?
[08:56] <midgetg0a1> when i right clck on it, connection is "wlan0" status is "error"
[08:56] <macd> AzMoo, there are several VPN clients for linux
[08:56] <midgetg0a1> and i click configure and it complains: The interface does not exist
[08:57] <AzMoo> macd, I noticed. Can you recommend any?
[08:57] <macd> AzMoo, network-manager-pptp is a nice gui.
[08:57] <midgetg0a1> bulmer: what is "modprobe ndiswrapper" supposed to do?
[08:57] <AzMoo> macd, cheers.
[08:58] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: loads the module into the kernel
[08:58] <AzMoo> midgetg0a1, load the ndiswrapper module into your kernel
[08:58] <mau> hey guys.  any ideas on how to get an optical sound port to work?
[08:58] <mau> analog works
[08:58] <mau> no luck with digital:(
[08:58] <midgetg0a1> AzMoo: is a reboot not then a good idea?
[08:59] <Blacken> Hmm. For this sort of thing, I have to think xfce might actually be smarter than GNOME...
[08:59] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: you try   ifup wlan0  yet?
[08:59] <bulmer> or wlan1 if its named wlan1
[08:59] <macd> mau, you should be able to use alsaconf and select the spdif output.
[09:00] <pirothezero> anyone here using blockhosts?
[09:00] <midgetg0a1> no i havent, i was rebooting for the fun of it
[09:00] <mau> macd, i'm looking at a fiber channel... not spidif
[09:00] <midgetg0a1> and it's hanging at load again becuase i had the usb wifi dongle plugged in...man, this was never a problem.
[09:00] <midgetg0a1> i ahve to alt+ctrl+del to get past the hanging...
[09:00] <macd> fiber channel sound?
[09:00] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: after you have loaded ndiswrapper, you have to make it permanent, otherwise you need to reload at next boot
[09:00] <macd> optical cable?
[09:00] <mau> but I assume alsaconf is a terminal command?
[09:01] <midgetg0a1> but shouldnt it be perm from 4 hours ago when it was working? and i did see it in "that" file listed last
[09:01] <midgetg0a1> cant remember the name of the file
[09:01] <macd> mau, your trying to use the optical output?
[09:01] <mau> yep
[09:01] <l2s> oh well 6.10 desktop is installing
[09:01] <macd> mau, that is spdif ;)
[09:01] <Kenny> hey can ne help me out?
[09:02] <NoEvidenZ> !rlogin
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rlogin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <macd> mau, and yes, alsaconf is console.
[09:02] <NoEvidenZ> !login
[09:02] <midgetg0a1> bulmer: ifup wlan0 w/ it plugged in right...
[09:02] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[09:02] <l2s> disappointing the dell would not install server easily
[09:02] <NoEvidenZ> !logind
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: what happened?
[09:02] <mau> macd, ha... thanks.. I used to seeing units with both a spdif (looks like rca) and optical (fiber channel)
[09:02] <NoEvidenZ> Anyone know anything about setting up a remote login?
[09:02] <midgetg0a1> nothing yet, had to reboot - it hung on boot w/ dongle plugged in, then gave a GDM error...
[09:02] <mau> is it one in the same in pc world?
[09:02] <midgetg0a1> in desktop now, sec
[09:03] <macd> mau, yeah the RCa looking one is called coaxial digital, optical is spdif
[09:03] <Blacken> NoEvidenZ: How do you mean?
[09:03] <Blacken> NoEvidenZ: Graphical, shell...?
[09:03] <mau> got it.. thanks
[09:03] <NoEvidenZ> Blacken: Graphical
[09:03] <Blacken> NoEvidenZ: Easy way or hard way?
[09:03] <Blacken> (Hard way is better, easy way is quicker.)
[09:03] <mau> macd, so how do I use the command?  I'm pretty new to console
[09:03] <NoEvidenZ> Blacken: Easy please? =]
[09:03] <macd> NoEvidenZ, xdcmp is most likely the easiest one
[09:03] <midgetg0a1> bulmer: haha, un oh..i think this might clue you in
[09:03] <macd> mau, in console type "alsaconf"
[09:03] <midgetg0a1> "ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied"
[09:03] <Blacken> NoEvidenZ: xdcmp is the absolute easiest, but if you want something *good*, google for "freenx"
[09:03] <Blacken> It's in the seveas repos.
[09:04] <macd> midgetg0a1, sudo ;P
[09:04] <mau> hmm...
[09:04] <Kenny> HELP!!!!!!!!!
[09:04] <mau> command not found
[09:04] <midgetg0a1> d'oh
[09:04] <macd> mau, sudo apt-get install alsaconf
[09:04] <midgetg0a1> was hoping it was some crazy permis problem
[09:04] <midgetg0a1> now i feel dopey......sec.
[09:04] <mau> :(  looks like i'm missing the repository
[09:05] <macd> mau, disregard that, let me find the package that includes that
[09:05] <midgetg0a1> error while getting interface flags: no such device (x)
[09:05] <NoEvidenZ> Blacken: I want to be able to login from school to my Ubuntu box at home. Would I use xdcmp for that?
[09:05] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: thats why i prefer to have a sudo su -  but many here is reluctant to give you that power :(
[09:05] <midgetg0a1> bind socket to interface: no such device
[09:05] <midgetg0a1> Failed to bring up wlan-
[09:05] <midgetg0a1> well, wlan0
[09:05] <macd> mau, sudo apt-get install alsa-utils-gui (then you should have the guified version)
[09:05] <mau> macd, that you so much for the helping hand
[09:06] <AzMoo> macd, how do I use that gui? I can't find it anywhere :\
[09:06] <mau> E: Type 'repository' is not known on line 39 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:06] <mau> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[09:06] <Fracture> is feisty likely to support lvm with the desktop cd ?
[09:06] <macd> AzMoo, its called network-manager, it should be in the menu under internet
[09:07] <AzMoo> macd, got it. Had to add it myself. Thanks.
[09:07] <macd> AzMoo, yeah sometimes things get intsalled but dont showup, at least you know to use the mnenu editor
[09:07] <midgetg0a2> bah, that was weird...
[09:07] <AzMoo> macd, heh, but now it doesn't work :\
[09:07] <midgetg0a2> bulmer: any more ideas?
[09:08] <Xblaster> ciao ragazzi!
[09:08] <MatrixMon> Can someone help me with vmware?
[09:08] <macd> AzMoo, does it give you an error?
[09:08] <midgetg0a2> heh, and now htat i rebooted...ndiswrapper -l will hang for ever.
[09:08] <Blacken> NoEvidenZ: Look at freenx; it'll do it better.
[09:08] <macd> MatrixMon, what problem are you having, and vmware or vmware-player?
[09:08] <Xblaster> qualcuno parla italiano?
[09:08] <Kenny> u guys suck
[09:08] <MatrixMon> I believe vmware
[09:08] <Kenny> all i want is a lil help
[09:09] <AzMoo> macd, Yep, "Failed to execute child process 'nm-vpn-properties' (no such file or directory)"
[09:09] <Blacken> Kenny: Why don't you try asking questions instead of just screaming "HELP!!!!!!"?
[09:09] <MatrixMon> I just need to know how to load windows on it
[09:09] <macd> MatrixMon, what problem are you having?
[09:09] <midgetg0a2> bulmer: did i scare you off?
[09:09] <macd> ohhh, MatrixMon google "vmware windows <version here> install"
[09:09] <bulmer> midgetg0a1: read the ndiswrapper web page specifically the area for your gl132
[09:09] <Kenny> ok sorry i didnt know if i was connected at 1st lol. duz anyone know how to install a linksys wmp45g?
[09:09] <bulmer> am off to bed
[09:10] <macd> MatrixMon, in a nutshell, use qemu to create a vmware image of your windows then "install" windows.
[09:10] <midgetg0a2> oh, they have it listed?? wt-arsh...
[09:10] <midgetg0a2> alright thanks bulmer..
[09:10] <MatrixMon> When I try to enter the windows disc path to vmware It doesn't give me an .exe
[09:10] <MatrixMon> Oh
[09:10] <Blacken> Kenny: http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/28.html
[09:11] <macd> MatrixMon, youll need to rip your windows CD to an iso, then use qemu to make a vmdk (vmware image) then install from that.
[09:11] <MatrixMon> Oh
[09:11] <macd> MatrixMon, and ignore the messages about the floppy drive.
[09:11] <Kenny> blacken: thx
[09:12] <SoulChild> Hey Guys
[09:12] <macd> MatrixMon, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84275  that should help, its for vmware-player but it will work fine for vmware workstation.
[09:12] <skar> hi, i've got a asus p5b mb, feisty's 2.6.20-6generic kernel detects the jmicron ide, onbard gige rtl8168 lan etc correctly, but dapper didn't work, does the 2.6.17-10.33 kernel in edgy detect this h/w correctly?
[09:12] <SoulChild> i have no window network folder in Network-Servers any ideas please ?
[09:12] <MatrixMon> Thanks Mac
[09:13] <Blacken> MatrixMon: I've had nothing but hell with VMWare Workstation. You may want to give VMWare Server a look; 'tis free.
[09:13] <macd> skar, what specifically did dapper not detect?
[09:13] <macd> Blacken, second that.
[09:13] <Frogzoo> !hardware | skar
[09:13] <ubotu> skar: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:13] <skar> macd: the on board realtek 8168 gige lan card and the jmicron ide controller
[09:14] <Blacken> macd: VMWare Workstation is wonderful under Windows. Leaner than Server. Under Linux, it's a turd. :/
[09:14] <macd> Blacken, Im lucky enough to have hardware that supports virtualization, so Xen was a go for me ;)
[09:14] <Blacken> My box could support virtualization, but that would involve hideous amounts of DOING THINGS.
[09:14] <macd> hahah
[09:14] <Frogzoo> Blacken: vmplayer works fine
[09:14] <macd> Xen can be a nightmare, but my company makes its living off of xen sooo Im sort of an expert
[09:14] <Blacken> Frogzoo: Little hard to make your own images that way. ;)
[09:15] <MatrixMon> If it doesn't work I'll take a look at Server
[09:15] <SoulChild> guys i do not see my windows network although smbfs is installed
[09:15] <MatrixMon> Macd: Do I have to burn it as an iso?
[09:15] <macd> MatrixMon, once you have a vmware image, you can use vmware player with little trouble at all
[09:15] <skar> Frogzoo: no mention of p5b in motherboard's supported, sob sob :((
[09:16] <macd> MatrixMon, no just rip your CD to an ISO, read that link I gave you, it takes about 15 minutes for the entire process.
[09:16] <macd> Blacken, indeed, but server consolidation
[09:16] <Blacken> macd: Oh, aye, definitely on that score.
[09:16] <macd> Blacken, of course vmware fusion on OSX iss the hholy grail.
[09:16] <skar> Frogzoo: hmm i tried booting with the 2.6.20-6generic kernel installed by feisty's alpha livecd and a dapper partition as base, and it gets stuck at detecting USB stuff etc
[09:17] <Blacken> I am extremely anti-OSX, so we shall differ on that one. :)
[09:17] <macd> hehe
[09:17] <macd> by principle orr just anti Jobbs ?
[09:17] <Peps> Hi, a friend is offering me a system with a "Intel Core 2 Duo processor E6300". Will that run ubuntu?
[09:17] <Blacken> Peps: Most likely.