[11:41] <robjo> blackboxsw: Can I get some attention on https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/858 please. Thanks
[14:06] <falcojr> robjo: I've re-opened the PR. I'm still not entirely sure if we want to make this change, or if we do, when, but I'll try to move it along
[14:13] <robjo> falcojr: Thanks, it's mostly to appease simplistic security scanners and I'd rather not carry a patch for this in the SUSE package
[15:50] <vegardx> Meh, I hate that you have to use lambda@edge to do simple things like having two S3 origins with different path patterns. Or you'll have to use a static website s3 bucket and rewrite the request in S3.
[15:51] <vegardx> Otherwise CloudFront will request the wrong file and things like default_root_object don't work
[15:52] <vegardx> Errr, wrong channel
[15:52] <vegardx> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/mut4BwX0/1618588343.GIF


[19:39] <mup> PR snapd#8986 closed: tests: new snaps-state command - part1 <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Merged by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8986>
[19:39] <mup> PR snapd#9398 closed: tests: split the nested helper in 2 parts <Run nested> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Closed by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9398>
[21:49] <mup> PR snapd#9419 opened: fix some typos <Created by SantiagoBautista> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9419>


[22:49] <zacts> hi
[22:50] <zacts> if I install and use 18.04 bionic beaver, once it is officially released will it automatically apt-get update to the release version rather than the +1?
[22:50] <tsimonq2> zacts: Yes.
[22:51] <zacts> oh nice
[22:51] <zacts> where is the "official" location to download 18.04?
[22:52] <Bashing-om> zacts: See the topic for the daily 18.04 image .
[22:52] <zacts> oh sorry, I don't know why I missed that
[22:52] <zacts> thanks
[22:59] <zacts> is 18.04 currently stable enough for daily laptop use?
[23:00] <zacts> I'm looking for something at least as stable as arch linux or debian next/testing
[23:00] <Bashing-om> zacts: Many report it as stable, most depends on your hardware .
[23:01] <zacts> ah ok cool
[23:02] <zacts> I may test it then. I don't really need a totally stable system, but I would prefer something that works.


[00:51] <Newbuntu81-2> Hi All.  Quick question.  How would you find out if the NTSC cable coming into your house is analog or digital?  I saw that some said they didn't need the NTSC analog part of the driver to work because most of Comcast is digital.
[00:52] <Newbuntu81-2> Ok let me rephrase that...is all coax cable NTSC analog?
[01:25] <tgm4883> Newbuntu81-2, no
[01:25] <tgm4883> that doesn't even make sense
 if you have an analog tv that can pick up channels without a box
 then its analog
[02:44] <Newbuntu81-2> Did anyone ever get the analog NTSC working with mythbuntu 10.10? I could only get ATSC working.
[03:45] <tgm4883> Newbuntu81-2, again, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense
[03:45] <tgm4883> yea, people have NTSC working in 10.10
[03:46] <tgm4883> it would make more sense if you said what tuner you are using
[03:48] <Newbuntu81-2> oh i think i did awhile back, i have an hvr 2250, 950q, and 850. can't get anything working in analog ntsc. researching.
[05:28] <rhpot1991> Newbuntu81-2: if your cable still provides anlog then you can capture that, otherwise you will need to do clear QAM
[05:28] <rhpot1991> have an old non HD tv?
[14:21] <Nede> hi chat
[14:22] <Nede> common interface ci+ for mythbuntu?
[16:36] <judget> hi can someone tell me what the password is set to fore the mythtv user during installation
[16:59] <rhpot1991> judget: there is no mythtv user, just the user you pick which is in the mythtv group
[17:04] <ripperda> Hi, I have a mythbuntu system running w/ 3 hard drives containing my OTA recordings (main drive + 2 extras). Paths to these 3 drives are all listed in my 'Default' storage group. I'd like to replace the 2 extra drives with a single, larger drive.
[17:05] <ripperda> How can I do that, without losing the metadata of recordings on those 2 drives? If I just copy the files to the new drive and update the paths in the Default storage group, will mythtv be smart enough to identify the recordings?
[17:05] <rhpot1991> ripperda: copy the files to the new drive and make sure its in the storage group, easy enough
[17:05] <ripperda> ok, I wasn't sure if that would work, but I'll give it a try
[17:05] <ripperda> thanks!
[17:06] <judget> rhpot1991 I am trying to run a .pl script to add thumbnails for my own video clips and it says i have to run it as the mythtv user
[17:06] <rhpot1991> run it as your user and it should be fine
[17:09] <judget> no it says you must run this script as the mythtv user
[17:09] <judget> and i am in the mythtv group
[17:09] <rhpot1991> sounds like a very old script then
[17:09] <rhpot1991> you could make a mythtv user I suppose, but thats pretty silly
[17:09] <rhpot1991> better off just finding the part in code that checks for that and bypass it
[17:10] <judget> ok does anyone have any suggestiosn then how to add thumbnails for video clips that I made myself?
[17:17] <Patrickdk> edit metadata
[17:20] <judget> ok how do I do that please?
[17:25] <judget> sorry if it sounds like a dumb question
[19:03] <petethepirate> I'm trying to install drivers for my tuner card, and I can't get past this error.  media_build/v4l/fmdrv_common.c:41: fatal error: linux/ti_wilink_st.h: No such file or directory  What would fix this?
[19:52] <qwebirc84049> hi all - some help would be appriciated if anyone is available
[19:52] <qwebirc84049> im struggling with listings
[19:54] <qwebirc84049> im in the uk, using maverick meerkat, (DVB)
[19:54] <qwebirc84049> Im situated between 2 transponders (Crystal Palace and Hannington)
[19:54] <Newbuntu81-2> Whoohoo, 2.6.37 kernel with onboard support for hvr 2250!
[19:55] <qwebirc84049> hi Newbuntu81-2
[19:56] <qwebirc84049> can you help with my listings issues please?
[19:57] <qwebirc84049> my EIT from doesnt work very well (the transponder I dont want has listings, and some channels on the transponder i do want, dont..)
[19:57] <qwebirc84049> if that make s sense
[19:58] <qwebirc84049> i tried to stup xmltv source, but the radio times option doesnt appear...
[20:10] <qwebirc84049> anyone know why i cannot select "uk radio times" in myth-setup->video source->listings grabber ??? (the only options available are EIT or schedules direct)
[20:10] <qwebirc84049> any manual work arounds?
[20:11] <rhpot1991> qwebirc84049: try asking in #mythtv-users
[20:11] <qwebirc84049> ok, will do, thanks


[01:05] <poningru> hope you feel better man
[01:05] <poningru> \sh_away: let me know if there is anything I can do
[12:31] <shygoly05g> help
[12:31] <shygoly05g> i reinstalled windows and cant get into ubuntu again
[12:32] <shygoly05g> i tried some tip on the net
[12:32] <Seveas> shygoly05g, #ubuntu is the help channel
[12:32] <shygoly05g> sorry
[06:41] <licio> Seveas, ping
[08:29] <Seveas> licio, pong
[08:29] <licio> Seveas, pvt


[00:02] <flyback> why is lubuntu 20 only mentioned on lubuntu.me and not the other site
[00:05] <CarlFK>  Settings, Sound, Applications - shows apps that are using sound.  is there something similar for web cam?
[00:15] <TenLeftFingers> Is it possible to check the status of do-release-upgrade? I didn't include the -d option and it's been about 4 hours now.
[00:16] <Jordan_U> TenLeftFingers: What
[00:16] <Jordan_U> TenLeftFingers: ... What's the last ouptu you saw from it?
[00:17] <TenLeftFingers> "Inhibiting until Ctrl + C is pressed ..."
[00:18] <TenLeftFingers> (before that line was "To continue please press [ENTER]"
[00:19] <TenLeftFingers> there doesn't seem to be much disk activity
[00:20] <Jordan_U> TenLeftFingers: Are you doing this from ssh, from a graphical terminal, a text only tty, or something else? Do you have screen or tmux installed?
[00:20] <TenLeftFingers> I'm using a terminal on the laptop
[00:20] <TenLeftFingers> But I see now that I still needed to press enter (!)
[00:20] <TenLeftFingers> I  thought the next line of output meant that I had already done that
[00:21] <TenLeftFingers> Now it's fetching
[00:22] <TenLeftFingers> Can I shutdown after packages have downloaded / before installation?
[00:22] <pymagic> can i safely install libffi both 0.6 and 0.7 on the same machine?
[00:22] <pymagic> on ubuntu 20.04lts, how do i get 0.6 using apt?
[00:27] <Jordan_U> pymagic: There seem to be two separate packages, libffi6 and libffi7, and they don't seem to conflict with each other (at least not directly). That means that the Debian and Ubuntu devs think that you should be able to have both installed at once.
[00:28] <pymagic> Jordan_U, thanks
[00:28] <Jordan_U> pymagic: You're welcome.
[00:28] <pymagic> Jordan_U, libffi-dev - I only see that when I use apt-cache search
[00:28] <pymagic> where do you see 6 and 7 indepedently?
[00:33] <tripelb> Would someone be a sweetheart and give me a link to something that explains regular expressions. I want to rename some file names and if I don't specifically know what I'm doing I'm going to mess up so I need to review everything.
[00:34] <tripelb> I'm just going to remove this and leave that.
[00:34] <gildarts> tripelb: Are you looking for a GUI tool or command line?
[00:34] <tripelb> Oh command line please. Gooey is much too complicated for me.
[00:35] <tripelb> Not only do I have to figure out how Bosch thinks but then I have to figure out how that programmer thought.
[00:35] <tripelb> It said bash, I saw it but then The great mighty Google decided to change it
[00:36] <gildarts> tripelb: This might be a helpful introduction. https://www.howtogeek.com/423214/how-to-use-the-rename-command-on-linux/
[00:36] <tripelb> I've been looking at a couple of those and they weren't it.
[00:37] <tripelb> I don't know for sure anymore how to specify five more characters, or look for the next open parentheses.
[00:37] <gildarts> Ah... you need something more focused on regex rather than the command line tool then?
[00:38] <tripelb>  It's going to do the exact same thing to every single line so I don't need any logic.
[00:38] <tripelb> That's what I figure gildarts
[00:39] <tripelb> I like that You have an oz name and I just used an oz reference
[00:39] <leftyfb> tripelb: I would google for "bash regex". Also, join #bash
[00:39] <tripelb> Ok.
[00:39] <leftyfb> tripelb: careful in #bash though. They're not nice, but they do know what they're doing.
[00:40] <nubcake> tripelb; google for sed, could be helpful aswell
[00:40] <gildarts> tripelb: Also, you can use https://regex101.com/ or similar to see how a regular expression is processing.
[00:40] <tripelb> I'm an old lady and I remember none of Linux used to be nice. I gave up. The first time I tried it I had 27 discs of slackware
[00:41] <tripelb> I've been meaning to learn sed for about 5 years
[00:42] <tripelb> Anyway I'm very happy with the first result I got from bash regex -- Knowing what to Google is the first step. I'll come back after I've absorbed this one if I need any help. And thanks
[00:46] <tripelb> ooboyleo gildarts... It's a test setup at regex101.com-- very cool. The guy who's asking me doesn't have an internet connection. He's in some dipshit Valley in the mountains of Oregon.
[01:00] <pymagic> on my new ubuntu 20.04 install , python3.8 - arrow yes have stopped working - any ideas on how to fix this? perhaps something to do with readline/terminal?
[01:04] <pymagic> readline / libreadline are both installed
[01:30] <CarlFK> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/  audio works, video does not. (both have permission granted)
[01:31] <CarlFK> video sometimes works.  like I ran cheese, it displayed video, closed it, then the test worked, but walked away for 20 min, came back, black screen and the cam light is off.
[02:01] <AHemlocksLie> I have a game, Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition from GOG, that is crashing because it's looking for libssl.so.1.0.0 and can't find it because I have version 1.1. Is there a way I can fix this?
[02:02] <AHemlocksLie> I'm running 20.04 LTS
[02:09] <oerheks> lots of forumposts about that "ubuntu Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition libssl.so.1.0.0" ...
[02:09] <oerheks> bad idea, IMHO, to use such old and vulnerable  libssl.so.1.0.0 ....
[02:09] <oerheks> a fix, just read, https://www.gog.com/forum/baldurs_gate_series/baldurs_gate_enhanced_edition_on_fedora_linux
[02:10] <oerheks> or this https://www.gog.com/forum/baldurs_gate_series/linux_version_openssl_mismatch/post8
[02:10] <oerheks> one better ask GOG to fixs it.
[02:13] <AHemlocksLie> Ah, I should have thought to look on the GOG forums
[02:13] <AHemlocksLie> That last one was a quick and effective fix, though, so thank you for helping me fix it
[02:13] <oerheks> AHemlocksLie, have fun!
[03:18] <grigora> Hi, I have an Ubuntu server with a ufw firewall. I open up several standard ports 80, 443, 25. When I do ufw status, I see that the correct ports are open. When I nmap from another ubuntu server, I see the correct ports open, however when I do nmap from my MacBookAir - it shows a whole bunch of open ports, including 21, 554, 7070. Does anyone know
[03:18] <grigora> what this means? Is it my ISP mucking with traffic?
[03:20] <oerheks> yes, but the ports are closed, example article; https://serverfault.com/questions/330571/nmap-on-my-webserver-shows-tcp-ports-554-and-7070-open
[03:21] <oerheks> no worries.
[03:24] <grigora> oerheks: thanks, so it is the ISP, correct? what's even more bizarre is that i can telnet server 21 and connect to it
[03:33] <lamiastella> hey I get this error ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'wx'
[03:33] <lamiastella> and I have installed it already
[03:34] <wagle> is there a tool for installing ubuntu (20.04) remotely?  google wants only to tell me about remote desktops...
[03:35] <wagle> if i recall correctly, there's a bazillion wx packages..  is there a main "install all of them" package?
[03:36] <wagle> module?
[03:40] <lamiastella> could you please have a look at my question? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1254656/problem-with-importing-deeplabcut-no-module-named-wx
[03:40] <lamiastella> wagle: I am not sure to be honest
[03:41] <lamiastella> wagle: how do I know which one is needed for deeplabcut?
[03:42] <wagle> lamiastella: you might ask on the python irc channel?
[03:42] <wagle> I dont know
[03:42] <oerheks> 148 not upgraded. ... try a sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade # and reboot
[03:43] <lamiastella> oerheks: do you think if that's causing the problem?
[03:44] <wagle> running a 18.04 with a corrupt apt database..  simplest to just fresh install 20.04
[03:44] <lamiastella> I am not using 18.04 I am using 20.04
[03:45] <wagle> i thought maybe he was answering my question, sorry
[04:23] <lamiastella> do you know how I fix it? E: Unable to locate package libwebkitgtk-dev
[04:25] <oerheks> !find libwebkitgtk-dev
[04:26] <oerheks> it is in universe .. but not for 20.04 https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libwebkitgtk-dev
[04:27] <oerheks> perhaps webkit2gtk ?  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkit2gtk
[04:34] <biggtimber> when you uninstall a package, and the config directory stays behind. I'm havin issues when I delete the config dir and reinstall the application. It's not creating the config files. I'm messing around with ansible, and 'reseting' a machine by deleting the config files
[04:35] <biggtimber> am I missing some other file/record that thinks the config files should be there and doesn't create them on a reinstall uninstall/install?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> biggtimber: perhaps the #ansible channel knows the fine tuning about the config?
[04:37] <biggtimber> happens with apt as well.
[04:37] <biggtimber> on the kibana package
[04:38] <biggtimber> I remove the package with apt, delete the config folder '/etc/kibana/', and run the install again (either in ansible or apt). The config files are not ther.e
[04:38] <biggtimber> just didn't know if I'm missing something general that you need to change if you delete the config files.
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> biggtimber: did you check your /home folder for config files?
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> hidden folders on and .config ?
[04:39] <biggtimber> checking
[04:40] <biggtimber> doesn't seem to be anything in there related to this.
[04:41] <biggtimber> .config only has 'htop' in there, and there is no .kibana file
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> biggtimber: some apps, would also need a command to create a first time config
[04:41] <biggtimber> ah
[04:41] <biggtimber> let me look
[04:42] <oerheks>  /usr/share/kibana  ?
[04:42] <oerheks> home  Kibana home directory or $KIBANA_HOME /usr/share/kibana
[04:42] <oerheks> https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/deb.html
[04:45] <biggtimber> if I remove the package, that 'usr/share/kibana/' directory is gone. so it' not holding information there upon another installation
[04:46] <biggtimber> also, their docs dont mention a flag during install to force the creation of the config files
[04:46] <oerheks> make sure kibana has stopped, else it remains in memory
[04:46] <biggtimber> I know it worked the first time
[04:48] <biggtimber> it is stopped. there still is a service, so I wonder if that my be the trigger for it not to create the config files. if it sees a service file.
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> biggtimber: its not the snap you installed?
[04:49] <biggtimber> no
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> biggtimber: maybe a reboot?
[04:51] <biggtimber> possible. rebooting. better not be that. lol
[04:53] <biggtimber> nope. still an empty directory.
[04:53] <biggtimber> hmm.
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> biggtimber: https://kb.objectrocket.com/elasticsearch/how-to-configure-kibana-after-installation
[05:07] <biggtimber> was able to fine the base config file in the tar from the kibana downloads from elastic. time to setup the playbook with templates I think
[05:07] <biggtimber> thanks for the help
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> welcome biggtimber
[05:17] <xbfrog> anyone know how to print from leafpad to printer? i dont see that option i only have print to file. and yes the printer is installed and works printing various other jobs. just apparently not this one. do i need to install something else?
[05:30] <ikarus987> using screen for a very first time :<
[05:30] <ikarus987> fallowing a guide and it says when u are inside screen
[05:31] <ikarus987> ctrl+a?
[05:31] <ikarus987> will bring u commands u can use
[05:31] <ikarus987> for screen
[05:31] <ikarus987> but nothing is happening
[05:32] <Jordan_U> ikarus987: It won't "bring you" anything. It's kind of the prefix for commands. So ctrl+a followed by typing the character 'c' will start a new shell. ctrl+a followed by '3' will bring you to the 3rd "screen", if you have one.
[05:45] <tripelb> I have a problem. On
[05:45] <ikarus987> Jordan_u how do i see how many screen sessions i have?
[05:45] <ikarus987> opened
[05:46] <tripelb> 20.04ubuntu. I may not have done the part about playing non-free stuff correctly. On my computer I cannot play a embedded Vimeo video I only get the audio. I can't remember but I don't think I can play movies either. YouTube is fine. Please help me I've tried to fix this and not succeeded.
[05:47] <tripelb> I'm speaking to you from my phone
[05:48] <tripelb> I can play a regular Vimeo video.
[05:48] <tripelb> th4ntise same video I can't play on my computer plays fine on the phone.
[05:48] <tripelb> ...
[05:49] <tripelb> th4ntise same video I can't play on my computer will play fine on my phone.
[05:49] <tripelb> .
[05:49] <tripelb> . The same video..
[05:50] <tripelb> th4ntise speech to text button is right next to the send button. My client makes the first word look for a username and fills it in. Life is so strange. Please help me with my video problem on the computer
[05:54] <Jordan_U> ikarus987: ctrl+a "
[05:54] <Jordan_U> ikarus987: (literally the quotation mark character is what you need to type)
[05:55] <oerheks> tripelb, oh those pesky sites with embedded vimeos
[05:55] <tripelb> This is a private video that's only good today until midnight in my time zone.
[05:55] <Jordan_U> ikarus987: You probably want to read an intro to screen. I haven't read this one but at a glance it looks good: https://opensource.com/article/17/3/introduction-gnu-screen
[05:56] <oerheks> disable your adblocker ?
[05:56] <tripelb> Though I did change my time zone to Hawaii
[05:56] <oerheks> lolz, now you come up with your timezone..
[05:56] <tripelb> Yes I'll disable my ad blocker right now ... in chrome
[05:56] <Jordan_U> ikarus987: To get a list of commands you can use, you can do ctrl+a ?
[05:57] <tripelb> Wait can I disable all extensions all at once right now. That will make things easier. For me.
[05:58] <oerheks> sure, rename the ~/.config/google-chrome folder?
[05:59] <oerheks> lazy mouse user
[06:01] <tripelb> Kisses blown to you my Nederlandlijk friend oerheks - that did it.
[06:01] <oerheks> have fun!
[06:02] <oerheks> one can disable an adblocker per site
[06:03] <Jordan_U> ikarus987: I also appreciated byobu when I first started using screen: https://www.byobu.org/ Now I've settled in to just using tmux without byobu.
[06:04] <tripelb> Now how to save the video. Any suggestions? Pne some side that had men open "Inspect", click on network, click on the 9 digit number... -- I got as far as "search for the speed and find the listing of the .mpg4 filename." (I couldnt)
[06:04] <tripelb> ^^^^ next question.
[06:05] <tripelb> oerheks (i did see that You said I can disable it per domain name)
[06:08] <deltab> tripelb: there are category selection buttons: make sure 'All' or 'Media' is selected
[06:09] <Jordan_U> tripelb: "youtube-dl https://URL_of_video_here"
[06:12] <Jordan_U> tripelb: If you need to log in to be able to view the video, you'll need to log in with youtube-dl as well, using the --username option (don't use the --password option, instead let youtube-dl prompt you for the passsword. Any time you enter a password as a parameter it's visible to all other users via "ps aux" and will also be kept in plain text in your bash history.
[06:14] <Jordan_U> tripelb: Though, please don't this or any other tool / trick to do something unethical. Think about why the person that posted it made it private and with a time limit, and consider if it's ethical to ignore their desires for either of those things.
[06:17] <elias_a> alexrelis: No I don't. As I wrote in the bug description, the bug can be replicated using a live session with no tweaks.
[06:59] <alexrelis> elias_a: I see. Thanks for reporting the bug.
[07:00] <ikarus987> Hi wondering what method can i use to take backup my ubuntu? i have server ubuntu that i am sshing into
[07:00] <ikarus987> please any guides is helpfull
[07:01] <ikarus987> i cant use timeshift :( because i dont have desktop ubuntu
[07:03] <alexrelis> ikarus987: Duplicity?
[07:03] <ikarus987> googling that
[07:04] <ikarus987> will it backup the machine?
[07:04] <ikarus987> like an image?
[07:04] <alexrelis> ikarus987: It will use rsync to create a fully-encrypted image of the system with preserved permissions.
[07:04] <alexrelis> http://duplicity.nongnu.org/
[07:04] <ikarus987> k thx
[07:05] <alexrelis> It is the backend of Deja Dup.
[07:06] <ikarus987> now my question is
[07:06] <ikarus987> at the moment i am renting a baremetal server on the cloud
[07:06] <ikarus987> so this will do the job, if i get stuck i can restore that server?
[07:07] <ikarus987> because the providers of the server only offer fresh reinstall of the OS
[07:07] <ikarus987> hmm alexrelis
[07:08] <alexrelis> ikarus987: Yes.
[07:09] <ikarus987> k
[07:51] <elias_a> Where does GNOME save accepted ssh fingerprints?
[07:55] <deltab> maybe ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[07:59] <elias_a> deltab: Thanks!
[08:02] <hay207> Hi guys, running kde neon
[08:02] <hay207> i noticed this
[08:02] <poutine> elias_a: it also make your system seem less magical to know it's ssh storing this there and not GNOME
[08:03] <poutine> it also may make*
[08:03] <hay207> Suspend was interrupted by packagekit and system freezed
[08:03] <hay207> Couldnot do anuthing but hard reboot
[08:03] <hay207> Logs's here https://pastebin.com/UXxU0pfV
[08:18] <hay207> Here https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2446342&p=13968795#post13968795
[08:18] <hay207> Hope someone follow this
[08:30] <oerheks> hay207, you might want to report this to #kde-neon-users, or #kubuntu, but kubuntu uses backports, not neon
[08:31] <hay207> Ok
[08:31] <rangergord> Sometimes 'apt install somepackage' lists packages to be installed and asks you to press Y to proceed, sometimes it just installs automatically. I think it's based on download size or maybe number. How can I force it to prompt me to confirm every time? Sometimes I just want to preview what packages a command is gonna pull.
[08:34] <oerheks> rangergord, depends on the dependencies, one can run apt install -d to do a dryrun
[08:35] <rangergord> thanks
[08:37] <rangergord> And a 2nd question: if I'm apt installing multiple packages, it proposes a large list of packages to install. My packages, their dependencies, their dependencies' dependencies. In the final list, I see a package that I want to know which of those I requested is responsible for installing, and how. It's not a direct dependency of the ones I asked to install, and the full list is 500+ packages. Is there some quick way, given
[08:37] <rangergord> 'apt install <many packages>', to find which one is gonna pull random-package? Or do I have to trial and error my apt install command one by one?
[08:37] <rangergord> basically redepends, but all the way to the top
[08:38] <rangergord> *rdepends
[08:38] <oerheks> yes, install one by one, or do some research for that packages on launchpad
[08:39] <ducasse> rangergord: only way i know of is that afterwards you can use 'aptitude why packagename' which will tell you which package requires that one
[08:39] <oerheks> apt-cache depends package-name
[09:34] <DarkTrick> small feedback: I really like the sound when trying to install ubuntu :)
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> DarkTrick: you are part of the community, file a wishlist !bug as you wish
[09:39] <DarkTrick> lotuspsychje, :D I'm not sure if understood me right. I was not claiming anything :)
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> DarkTrick: oh, well thats because we are in the support channel, we expect questions
[09:41] <DarkTrick> lotuspsychje, sorry. indeed. I should've posted it on -dev
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> or #ubuntu-discuss
[10:00] <DarkTrick> +1
[10:08] <rapha> hi
[10:09] <rapha> i'm trying to run a qemu/libvirt VM with
[10:09] <rapha> 'cpu mode="host-passthrough"'
[10:09] <rapha> which is working fine for a win10 VM ... but ubuntu ... doesn't even get beyond GRUB
[10:10] <rapha> it's an older Xeon E5 (10 cores, 20 threads) ... when i disable the host-passthrough, ubuntu works fine with QEMU Virtual CPUs
[10:10] <rapha> is there anything i can do to make the passthrough work?
[10:14] <oerheks> blacklist nouveau, add intel_iommu=on to grub , tons of guides, depends if you have nvidia or amd ..  https://blog.zerosector.io/2018/07/28/kvm-qemu-windows-10-gpu-passthrough/
[10:36] <rapha> ur
[10:36] <rapha> oerheks: not *G*PU passthrough. CPU-"passthrough".
[10:38]  * rapha also adds an explicit "-gpu" to his google query
[10:39] <rapha> okay, that helped ... mode='host-passthrough' check='none' and cache mode='passthrough' as well seem to be necessary
[10:40] <rapha> yup, reporting as Xeon E5 now
[10:40] <rapha> thanks for steering me correctly oerheks
[11:12] <banshi> hello all
[11:12] <banshi> How do I fix this? : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c446YnNGvs/
[11:21] <oerheks>  banshi line 28/29 install those too?
[11:21] <oerheks> and maybe run sudo apt update first..
[11:22] <oerheks> meanwhile xenial is @ 4.4.0-184.214  https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/xenial-updates/linux-signed
[11:23] <banshi> oerheks: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XXJHVcwxbV/ <-- like this?
[11:24] <oerheks> oh weird ..
[11:25] <banshi> oerheks: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mQ8MQp4bG7/ <-- no success
[11:26] <oerheks> oh line 46 ..unable  bla bla ... Read-only file system
[11:26] <oerheks> you have a dirty filesystem, fix this with the live iso and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[11:27] <oerheks> fsck.ext4 -p /dev/sdXY
[11:27] <oerheks> line 81 /86 from your last post , idem
[11:36] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:06] <Deano59> why does network-manager setting a DNS server ignore the dns setting?
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Deano59, is this computer located in your workplace or home?
[12:16] <andi_> is there any good tutorial for zsys and zfs using ubuntu 20:04?
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Deano59, need to know what kind of network you're on
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> !zfs | andi_
[12:20] <BluesKaj> andi_, or this, https://linuxconfig.org/configuring-zfs-on-ubuntu-20-04
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> yeah linuxconfig has great resources +1
[12:22] <nyvia> Hey, wondering if i can get some help with an issue. Just installed ubuntu, and for some reason I cannot set my HDMI monitor to 1080p 60. Despite it working fine on windows i can only set it to 24hz
[12:22] <andi_> yeah but i was more looking into something more advaned like creating autmated snapshots every day, before/after each apt usage etc
[12:22] <andi_> the install was pretty straight forward using the ubuntu installer
[12:23] <andi_> and i've heared some good stuff so far about zsys
[12:27] <Deano59> BluesKaj, it's my home network. I'm running ubuntu and a pi4 with debian buster. the pi4 is running pihole to block ads but the ubuntu system is still seeing ads when the DNS is set to the <IP_ADDRESS>....
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Deano59, why <IP_ADDRESS>, that's an internal address
[12:30] <Deano59> yes, that's the pihole network.
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> nyvia: is your graphics card loaded correclty?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Deano59,  IME it's always best to set DNS in your router
[12:31] <Deano59> BluesKaj, can't be done, a family doesn't want to use the adblocker.
[12:31] <Deano59> a family member*
[12:32] <Deano59> plus my router doesn't support setting a dns server. crappy ISP router.
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Deano59, I used pihole for a while but think adblockers work better if that's all you want it for
[12:33] <Deano59> BluesKaj, that's not my question and completely offtopic.
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Deano59, you can try setting your DNS in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[12:35] <Deano59> BluesKaj, tried that and it's the same, it's "ignored" for whatever reason.
[12:36] <tatertots> Deano59: is there any difference in adblocking if the pihole is NOT configured for use?...can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>??
[12:36] <Deano59> tatertots, the pihole is configured fine. I can ping it yes.
[12:37] <Deano59> I have set my phone's DNS to 192.x.x.x and it blocks ads correctly. it's ubuntu that's the problem.
[12:38] <tatertots> Deano59: have you confirmed the pihole is used for name resolution?
[12:38] <Deano59> ... yes.
[12:38] <pymagic> Is there an easy way to change the font size of title bar in ubuntu 20.04lts? gnome-tweaks does not work
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> pymagic: try dconf-editor
[12:39] <tatertots> Deano59: in terminal>     nslookup google.com
[12:39] <tatertots> Deano59: that shows the ip of pihole correct?
[12:39] <Deano59> no, it does NOT.
[12:39] <nyvia> lotuspsychje, aye GPU seems to be working okay, graphics are working just fine
[12:40] <Deano59> Server:	<IP_ADDRESS> Address:	<IP_ADDRESS>#53
[12:40] <Deano59> like I said it's being ignored for whatever reason.
[12:40] <pymagic> lotuspsychje, what do i change in dconf-editor?
[12:40] <Deano59> tatertots, ^
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> pymagic: there's a handy search function in dconf-editor try keyword: font
[12:41] <pymagic> lotuspsychje, thanks. Which variable should i be changing? there are a lot of hits for font
[12:42] <JimBuntu> Deano59: that nslookup actually isn't super useful, as your own machine can come back listed as the DNS... then your machine asks the proper DNS when something isn't already in cache. I'm not sure which version of ubuntu you are using, but... do you have nmcli ? are you fully using DHCP?
[12:43] <JimBuntu> If you have nmcli, Deano59 , you can try 'nmcli device show enp3s0 | grep IP4.DNS' while replacing the enp3s0 with what's relevant for your NIC
[12:43] <Deano59> JimBuntu: ubuntu 20.04 LTS. idk if I'm fully using DHCP.
[12:44] <Deano59> JimBuntu: it says this IP4.DNS[1]:                             <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:44] <JimBuntu> Deano59: Well, if you aren't fully DHCP and you are relying on DHCP to set the DNS, then that could be the issue. If you manually change your network on that specific Ubuntu machine to IP-Only instead of full, then you can manually enter the DNS address for it to use
[12:44] <tatertots> Deano59: you'll need to manually configure nameservers
[12:44] <Deano59> how do I do that JimBuntu ?
[12:44] <Deano59> tatertots: it's manually configured though.
[12:44] <tatertots> Deano59: do it via terminal
[12:45] <JimBuntu> Sorry Deano59, I don't use 20.04 other than when I played with it and it worked fine with my Pi-Hole set up. I'm sure someone can walk you through it though
[12:45] <Deano59> tatertots: <IP_ADDRESS> is configured.
[12:45] <tatertots> Deano59: adding the ip of pihole via the GUI network manager didn't result in the desired result
[12:45] <Deano59> It's set with /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[12:45] <Deano59> tatertots: see above...
[12:45] <nyvia> hm
[12:46] <Deano59> tatertots: I know it didn't give the desired result because it's not working. -.-
[12:48] <pyraindrop> lotuspsychje, I tried gnome-tweaks and dconf-editor - both cant change the title bar size?
[12:49] <pyraindrop> any thoughts on what is going wrong? Also my system fonts look tiny
[12:52] <Deano59> sorted it tatertots I had to remove ifupdown. :)
[12:52] <Deano59> working now! :D
[12:53] <tatertots> Deano59: good deal
[12:54] <nyvia> Does have any ideas for the problem i asked earlier? Sorry to be pushy ^_^
[12:56] <tatertots> nyvia: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[12:56] <nyvia> I am!
[12:57] <tatertots> nyvia: in terminal>     xrandr|nc termbin.com 9999
[12:57] <tatertots> nyvia: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[12:58] <nyvia> tatertots, https://termbin.com/7cqr
[13:01] <tatertots> nyvia: in terminal>     cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep -i did|nc termbin.com 9999
[13:01] <tatertots> nyvia: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[13:01] <nyvia> tatertots, https://termbin.com/oxfb
[13:08] <tatertots> nyvia: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[13:08] <tatertots> nyvia: follow steps to install if applicable, then follow through
[13:08] <tatertots> nyvia: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[13:09] <nyvia> tatertots, https://termbin.com/gqnz
[13:11] <tatertots> nyvia: what brand/model  monitor ?
[13:12] <nyvia> It's just an old TV I'm using as my second screen
[13:12] <nyvia> never had any issues with it
[13:12] <Deano59> tatertots: ignore that last message, it's NOT working. I remove ifupdown and dnsqmaq and I get no internet until I remove dnsqmaq. still seeing ads. but... nmcli device show eth0 | grep IP4.DNS shows IP4.DNS[2]: <IP_ADDRESS> what's causing it?
[13:13] <tatertots> nyvia: your monitor has EDID quirks
[13:14] <tatertots> nyvia: if you care to read about it see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Quirks#Monitor_Quirking:__drm_edid.c
[13:16] <nyvia> So is there no solution for this? I swear I haven't had a problem with it on previous linux installs
[13:16] <tatertots> nyvia: so 1080/24P is as good as it's going to get with that TV
[13:16] <tatertots> nyvia: you could try making a custom modeline but even that may result in 1080/24P
[13:17] <nyvia> Super odd since it works fine on windows hm
[13:19] <tatertots> nyvia: not very odd, apples vs oranges comparison....windows is NOT Linux and vice versa
[13:19] <nyvia> Of course, I wasn't trying to say it SHOULD work, sorry
[13:20] <tatertots> Deano59: are you using a dynamic ip or static ip?
[13:21] <Deano59> I was, and now I disabled that and it is working. cheers. :)
[13:21] <Deano59> tatertots: my adblock test site now says We can’t connect to the server at googleads.g.doubleclick.net. :)
[13:21] <Deano59> yay, go me! :D
[13:26] <tatertots> Deano59: sounds like you got it working consistently now :)
[13:26] <Deano59> yeah, pain in the backside though. xD
[13:44] <nukke> does `apt-mirror` support multiple versions of Ubuntu (i.e. 16.04, 18.04, 20.04) at the same time?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> your mirror source should ony support the OS you're using
[13:53] <nukke> ah, darn. I am in the process of setting up a local mirror at work for our servers, but the documentation is unclear about whether or not you can support multiple OSs with a single mirror.
[13:54] <nukke> BluesKaj: so I would have to deplay, say, one 16.04 server to act exclusively as a 16.04 mirror, one 18.04 server to ... ?
[13:54] <kyle__> nukke: Aptly does.
[13:54] <nukke> kyle__: interesting! never heard of this before.
[13:54] <kyle__> I don't know muhc about the setup portion of it, but we use it at work, and keep an overly of 2-3 versions at once.
[13:55] <kyle__> 2 normally, 3 if we're in the process of upgrading to a new release.
[13:56] <BluesKaj> nukke, 18.04 server supports 18.04 packages/deb files only, you cant mix and match with 16,04 packages for example without negative effects to your system
[13:58] <BluesKaj> !apt-mirror
[13:58] <BluesKaj> !info apt-mirror
[14:00] <nukke> kyle__: we mostly have 18.04 at work, but there are some lingering 16.04 (and 14.04) ones around that we still need to update.
[14:01] <nukke> I'll have to check out `aptly`. `apt-mirror` is the first and only result that shows up when searching "create local ubuntu mirror"
[14:02] <BluesKaj> nukke, sorry, misunderstood your question to some degree ...was afraid you were trying mix and match different OS sources, ...apt-mirror can mirror whole or in part of your OS
[14:03] <nukke> BluesKaj: my apologies. yeah, I was talking about creating a local repository mirror for our servers. that is, have that mirror server serve packages to various Ubuntu versions (16.04 and above)
[14:04] <nukke> it was unclear in the `apt-mirror` documentation whether or not the mirror could serve packages for more than one version.
[14:05] <nukke> kyle__: how resource heavy is running a local repo mirror (excluding bandwidth utilization)?
[14:12] <kyle__> CPU & memory, not too much.  Disk space wise, it can take a bit.
[14:13] <kyle__> If you do a mass install, of all the hosts at once for instance, yes, that will grind it to a halt. But even the most minor of staggering will solve that. (also, how often do you install the os on almost your entire environment at once?)
[14:18] <nukke> we have ~50 Ubuntu servers that we update monthly. at the moment we're doing 3 at a time since we're using external mirrors.
[14:22] <quadrathoch2> nukke wouldn't apt-cacher-ng make sense? idk, how often you download the same packages
[14:26] <kyle__> apt-cacher-ng is amazing.  Aptly and other local mirror setups are usually best when you want to have your own internal packages, and or your external connection is for shit.
[14:27] <kyle__> (or you are in a super paranoid situation where you dont' trust the outside)
[14:27] <nukke> quadrathoch2: this might work even better! for the most part, all servers are downloading the same packages.
[14:30] <quadrathoch2> nukke as I thought ;) and you wouldn't need like 6tb of storage
[14:30] <quadrathoch2> (for 3 ubuntu versions)
[15:04] <analogical> when creating a bootable usbstick with dd is there a way use a url as the input file instead of using a local file?
[15:09] <leftyfb> analogical: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20702812/how-to-download-a-linux-image-unzip-it-and-write-it-to-an-sd-card-in-one-line
[15:12] <analogical> leftyfb, huh?
[15:13] <leftyfb> analogical: https://stackoverflow.com/a/20754484
[15:13] <leftyfb> please use those as examples. Look at curl/wget man page for how to output to stdout
[15:14] <leftyfb> analogical: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/315142
[15:14] <leftyfb> analogical: I googled for "curl iso to dd"
[15:22] <analogical> leftyfb, thanks for the links
[15:23] <analogical> but I must say that the man pages for curl a wget are wothless
[15:30] <analogical> the documentation (or lack thereof) is the worst part about linux
[15:33] <BluesKaj> man pages are just gibberish to users like me, no examples is a fail IMO
[15:35] <deltab> they often aim for comprehensive and succinct, not for ease of reading
[15:36] <deltab> it's uncommon to find a balance that works for everyone
[15:36] <deltab> analogical: anything I can do to help?
[15:38] <kyle__> deltab: Look at the old mplayer man page.  Probably went too far in the opposite direction
[15:39] <coconut> Can i make curl to also show the source which is involed with "curl wttr.in", or is that just the same as https://wttr.in from webbrowser?
[15:40] <kyle__> I think wttr.in uses some logic to see if it's a browser or not.
[15:41] <kyle__> The curl output _is_ the unrendered, unadulterated response from the server.  Just without the headers by default
[15:43] <coconut> yeah, i was thinking it had to be different one way or another.
[15:44] <deltab> yeah, the colour markup, the link
[15:45] <deltab> see wttr.in/:help for options
[15:46] <deltab> or https://github.com/chubin/wttr.in
[15:46] <coconut> :D thnx deltab!
[15:46] <kyle__> I gotta say even years after it's release, it still impresses the hell out of me.
[16:22] <analogical> it's amazing that you can use curl to create a bootable usbstick from a url without having to download the iso to the harddrive
[16:51] <elb> Hi all, I'm running 20.04 (apt up to date), and all installed Electron apps (admittedly all third party -- Slack and Riot via Flatpak, and Keybase via deb) are extremely sluggish; any idea why, or how to tackle this?  By sluggish, I mean that keystrokes take hundreds of milliseconds to several seconds to register.
[16:53] <elb> The same machine did not have this problem under 19.10, other apps (Firefox, Emacs, FreeCAD, Zoom, etc.) do not seem to be problematic
[16:53] <elb> Even chromium is fine.
[16:58] <jaggz> anyone know why a default install of postgres would give me: could not access private key file "/etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key": Permission denied
[16:59] <jaggz> I do understand I can add postgres to the ssl-cert group and stuff, but why would a default install have this issue?
[17:00] <jaggz> oh maybe I broke my postgres groups.. yikes
[17:05] <jaggz> yeah.. a usermod -g overwrote it.. psi.
[17:05] <jaggz> thanks
[17:25] <denixx|h1> Is it hard to change kernel from 5.4 to 5.6 for my needs? I'm reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[17:27] <denixx|h1> Or maybe I could get some ubuntu super-alpha-testing iso with kernel 5.6+?
[17:28] <leftyfb> denixx|h1: found on google by searching "kernel 5.6"
[17:30] <leftyfb> oops, forgot the link
[17:30] <leftyfb> kernel 5.6http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2020/03/install-kernel-5-6-ubuntu-linux-mint/
[17:32] <denixx|h1> Found this too, but was afraid this thing is "harder than simple dpkg", so asked before doing, you know.
[17:32] <denixx|h1> Thanks, would try to.
[17:33] <leftyfb> denixx|h1: is there a reason you need 5.6 over 5.4?
[17:35] <denixx|h1> Yep. https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=84d49b3d08a1d33690cc159036f381c31c27c17b
[17:35] <denixx|h1> Hans said it's available in 5.6
[17:40] <Roey> hi
[17:41] <Roey> for some reason my bluetooth speaker won't connect to my system, can anyone help? thanks
[17:49] <tatertots> Roey: have you successfully used any other bluetooth devices?
[17:49] <Roey> yeahhh it worked half an hour ago.. and then I got a Facebook call and then it stopped working.
[17:50] <Roey> tatertots: it's a bose soundlink III
[17:50] <Roey> Apachez: o/
[17:50] <Apachez> \o/
[17:50] <Apachez> did you try the microsoft solution of rebooting?
[17:51] <Apachez> I got a windows box here with skype that loses my handfree each time some other app requests exclusive lock for the audio
[17:51] <Apachez> so the only fix is to reboot the box
[17:51] <Roey> Apachez: I have not tried rebooting yet
[17:51] <Roey> Apachez: ah, I see
[17:51] <Roey> I mean rebooting usually fixes it for me as well
[17:51] <kyle__> Could be that pulse took over and doesn't know to give it back to the other apps?  But I know very little about pulse internals or how to debug them.
[17:51] <Roey> i'd just have to save things here and there
[17:52] <Roey> kyle__: well so I did the following: pulseaudio -k && sudo alsa force-reload
[17:52] <Roey> and following that, my speaker won' connect
[17:52] <kyle__> Damn
[17:52] <kyle__> I haven't played with bluetooth in ages, but in most stacks there is a cli method to list the devices.
[17:52] <kyle__> That's where I would go next.
[17:53] <Roey> yeah
[18:01] <tatertots> Roey: have you looked at pavucontrol to verify its selected for use?
[18:04] <jaggz> wha.. since when did grep support \s?
[18:20] <kyle__> jaggz: since always I thought?
[18:21] <kyle__> posix regex is [:space:] I think, and pcre \s.  Maybe you have to give it a -P for pcre?  I can't recall
[18:22]  * kyle__ likes using grep -oP with a \k instead of cut
[18:24] <jaggz> kyle__, that's the thing, it's just working by default
[18:25] <kyle__> Apparently it's been that way for a while.  Works that way on my 12.04 box as well
[18:25] <jaggz> "but work only if PCRE is available in the system." .. oookay
[18:25] <jaggz> looks like it'll just add it on its own if it's around
[18:25] <kyle__> Also works in busybox grep
[18:26] <jaggz> and in debian stable
[18:26] <kyle__> And in freebsd's grep
[18:26] <jaggz> well.. that's good news I guess.. pcre is handy as all get out
[18:26] <kyle__> Err 12.0 FreeBSD at least.
[18:26]  * kyle__ nods
[18:26] <jaggz> it was tough to move from perl back to any plain (posix?) regex stuff..
[18:27] <jaggz> and nice other languages have been adopting such conveniences
[18:27] <kyle__> If you had to rebuild a socioty from scratch, I'm pretty sure implementing PCRE would be on the list shortly after a plow.
[18:27] <jaggz> and more modifier keys
[18:29] <jaggz> maybe a chinese keyboard by default for handy single-char commands in everything (vim, blender, ...)
[18:29] <Roey> hi
[18:29] <Roey> so I rebooted
[18:29] <Roey> erm
[18:29] <kyle__> I'm a big fan of how deeply embedded regexes are into ruby.    That means there's not something at a kernel or core level broken.  Sadly I don't know what to tell you for how to fix it right now :/
[18:31] <jaggz> connect to what
[18:33] <coconut> bluetooth speaker
[18:36] <Roey> kyle__: ah, well thanks.
[18:36] <Roey> coconut: bose soundlink III portbale bluetooth speaker
[18:36] <Roey> *portable
[18:37] <TwistedFate> do other flavors of ubuntu come with ZFS support out of the box?
[18:37] <ophi> leftyfb:  Removing IPv6 worked (DNS resolution works now).
[18:38] <leftyfb> ophi: probably due to your organizations security policies
[18:38] <leftyfb> TwistedFate: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS
[18:39] <TwistedFate> leftyfb: that's not what i need
[18:40] <leftyfb> TwistedFate: then ask for help with what you need
[18:40] <jaggz> Roey, what does syslog show?
[18:40] <Roey> oh, good idea, one se
[18:40] <Roey> sec
[18:40] <TwistedFate> leftyfb: i already did, i don't see what's unclear
[18:40] <leftyfb> TwistedFate: all flavors of ubuntu use the same kernels and have access to all the same packages
[18:41] <Roey> jaggz: obexd[22779]: message repeated 6 times: [ bluetooth: RequestProfile error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply, Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.]
[18:41] <Roey> obexd[22779]: bluetooth: RequestProfile error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply, Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[18:41] <leftyfb> !paste | Roey
[18:41] <Roey> fine
[18:41] <Roey> thanks.
[18:41] <coconut> Roey, my bose soundlink mini 2(i believe?) just work from the blueman-applet.(other than i sometimes have to connect the power adapter to make the speaker to start).
[18:41] <ophi> leftyfb:  no doubt.
[18:43] <jaggz> well .. looks like you have some more food for searches
[18:43] <ophi> Now I have a new problem.  Selected LVM for Ubuntu Server and it partitioned a 4G volume without warning and it will not let me expand it even though it shows plenty of free PE.  lvextend and lvresize both throw No space left on device errors.
[18:43] <jaggz> I misplaced my flosser
[18:44] <jaggz> try to prevent the corruptions and weaknesses of your own self to decay the things valuable to you
[18:44] <jaggz> nor my bad grammar
[18:46] <ophi> The volume group has 100's of gigs free, but I can't seem to add them to the logical volume.
[18:50] <tomreyn> ophi: whats the exact command you run, the exact output, and that of lvs, vgs, pvs?
[18:51] <tomreyn> !paste
[18:52] <rangergord> how can I still dwonload community packages for Ubuntu 12.04? Any mirrors still out there? I have an old app that runs on Ubuntu 12.04 that I want to migrate to a newer supported version, but first I'd like to set it up in a VM to have a working example to use as reference. It has old dependencies that were expected to be apt-installed in those days.
[18:53] <ophi> lvextend -L+100G /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv
[18:54] <ophi> Does it need some free space on the device in order to extend it?
[18:54] <tomreyn> okay, that's not the right usage
[18:54] <ophi> lvreize -L+100G /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv
[18:54] <ophi> lvresize -L+100G /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv
[18:55] <Delvien> How do i make it so dns resolution doesnt return 127.0.X.X. I want it to actually tell me the DNS server that its using.
[18:55] <tomreyn> i think you need to specify VG/LV, not the device node path
[18:55] <tomreyn> ophi: ^
[18:55] <tomreyn> so    lvresize -L+100G ubuntu-vg/ubuntu-lv
[18:56] <ophi> That returns "Please specify a logical volume path"
[18:57] <tomreyn> hmm i'm pretty sure it works this way. maybe your local values differ from what i wrote
[18:58] <tomreyn> you'd want to add -r though
[18:58] <ducasse> you need to add the pv to take the extents from
[18:58] <tomreyn> that's optional
[18:58] <ophi> lvreize -L+100G /dev/ubuntu-vg/ubuntu-lv also returns same "No space left on device"
[18:59] <ophi> The space is already allocated to the volume group
[19:00] <tomreyn> if you'll share details maybe we can help
[19:01] <ophi> pvs /dev/sda3 VG=ubuntu-vg fmt=lvm2 (nearly 300G)
[19:02] <ophi> lvs LV=ubuntu-lv VG=ubuntu-vg size=4G (boo)
[19:02] <tomreyn> please see what ubottu told you about paste above
[19:03] <ophi> vgs PV=1 LV=1 SN=0 (almost 300G)
[19:04] <ophi> pastebin?  Oh, ok.
[19:07] <EriC^> ophi: type "(sudo parted -ls; lvdisplay; pvdisplay) | nc termbin.com 9999"
[19:09] <tomreyn> lvdisplay + pvdisplay would also need sudo
[19:10] <nxfifteen> anyone got any experience with Logitech keyboards? I'd like to setup the macro keys on my G910 but cant workout how
[19:17] <ophi> Got it, the issue was that the EXISTING LVM was full, not that there was no space available.  Running sudo apt-get clean first allowed lvresize to complete.
[19:18] <tomreyn> nxfifteen: i found this source code repository about it https://github.com/JSubelj/g910-gkey-macro-support
[19:19] <ophi> Would be better if Ubuntu installer notified of the small initial LVM size allocation.
[19:20] <nxfifteen> that looks perfect thank tomreyn
[19:43] <oft_gegong> what's the best office software? open office? libre office?
[19:44] <nxfifteen> @to
[19:44] <nxfifteen> tomreyn:
[19:44] <nxfifteen> >>fat fingers sorry<<
[19:44] <nxfifteen> tomreyn: its working perfectly! thanks again
[19:45] <coconut> oft_gegong, openoffice.org does not exist anymore, and libre-office is the most popular at the moment i guess.
[19:46] <makr8100> openoffice is still around
[19:47] <CoolerX> is it time to upgrade from 18.04 yet?
[19:48] <coconut> oh... it has been dead in the past right, they came back?
[19:48] <BeavisOnFire> I have no troubles with 20.04. Can't guarantee you won't CoolerX.
[19:48] <makr8100> It went through some turmoil and changed hands a few times, but the core devs left to start libreoffice
[19:49] <CoolerX> someone said wait for 20.14 ?
[19:50] <makr8100> openoffice was sun, oracle bought sun (and therefore openoffice), openoffice devs didn't like oracle so most quit to form libreoffice - after that oracle wanted out and ended up giving it to apache
[19:50] <tomreyn> nxfifteen: nice. thanks for reporting back.
[20:00] <BeavisOnFire> CoolerX 20.04.1 will be out on august, 6 if I remember correctly
[20:00] <coconut> CoolerX, the advise for upgrading LTS versions generally is to wait until the first *.1 release gets released.
[20:01] <oft_gegong> why is the most powerful software on ubuntu is the web browser?
[20:02] <Delvien> Is there a way to improve the font rendering in 20.04? Its horrribly fuzzy and awful.
[20:02] <Delvien> tried setting hiting and AA, nothing seems to help
[20:03] <compdoc> what rez is it set to?
[20:04] <Delvien> 2560x1440
[20:05] <compdoc> I installed 20.04 Mate recently, and the fonts, etc seemed the same as for 18.04. There are some fonts you can add that might look better. truetype, I think its called
[20:06] <compdoc> but I wasnt using that rez
[20:07] <Delvien> if i remember correctly, font rendering has always been crappy in ubuntu
[20:07] <CoolerX> coconut, but what if there are no bugs to fix in 20.04?
[20:08] <coconut> CoolerX, i think there are always bugs CoolerX
[20:09] <momken> hi
[20:09] <CoolerX> so your release schedule relies on the presence of bugs?
[20:10] <momken> I am 31 years old. I used Windows for many years and Ubuntu for past 9 years
[20:10] <CoolerX> momken, and now you are having a mid-life crisis?
[20:11] <coconut> CoolerX, ubuntu's schedule it is, and every long term support get point releases, even with a small amount of bugs.
[20:11] <momken> Which OS/Distro should I used to work with for best balance of comfort and being standard for enterprise workplaces?
[20:12] <momken> CoolerX, I had mid-life crisis :)) So I want the most comfortable OS out of the box
[20:13] <momken> Assume that the OS should be easy to use, so that when I am stuck I could get help from others
[20:13] <CoolerX> momken, well you are here so Ubuntu
[20:13] <CoolerX> it's the most popular linux distro anyway
[20:16] <coconut> ! LTSupgrade | CoolerX
[20:16] <momken> I went for interview at a company and all the PCs where iMac with the best configs. I didn't use to work Mac and I got fired instantly!
[20:17] <momken> Maybe I should get familiar with mac too! But I can't afford a mac anyway!
[20:17] <compdoc> I would buy their OS if it ran on a normal pc
[20:17] <CoolerX> momken, so during the interview noone asked if you were familiar with Mac OS?
[20:17] <CoolerX> or looked at your resume in any way?
[20:19] <momken> CoolerX, They said they have only macs and I thought it's easy to work with it. But it wasn't! specially the magic mouse. It was really hard to switch b/w desktops with magic mouse
[20:20] <momken> When a company provides expensive macs for its employees, it mostly pays well too
[20:20] <CoolerX> momken, what does any of that have to do with Linux distros
[20:21] <momken> CoolerX, I have used to work with Ubuntu, but now I think I can't work with others OSes!
[20:21] <CoolerX> what kind of work?
[20:21] <momken> Programming. I am a programmer
[20:22] <CoolerX> web design?
[20:23] <tomreyn> !ot
[20:23] <momken> P.S. I live in Iran. So I should save for 1 year to be able to buy a MacBook pro 16"
[20:23] <Tarallo> Hi guys
[20:23] <Tarallo> I would like to know if it possible to use only a single GPU Card to do a passthrough.
[20:23] <momken> CoolerX, currently Android
[20:23] <leftyfb> !ot | momken
[20:23] <momken> leftyfb, I will go. Sorry :(
[20:23] <Tarallo> To use it in VM with Win10, I'm using a Dell 9380 with Intel 620 UHD
[20:24] <tomreyn> Tarallo: https://looking-glass.hostfission.com/
[20:25] <CoolerX> momken, if you can't work with anything OS other than Ubuntu then why go looking for another linux distro?
[20:25] <CoolerX> any*
[20:26] <momken> CoolerX, Security maybe! Or being very up to date (like Arch)
[20:27] <leftyfb> !ot | CoolerX
[20:27] <CoolerX> leftyfb, ok ok
[20:31] <Tarallo> tomreyn Are you sure it could help me?
[20:32] <Tarallo> because I visited the site but I am not sure if it helps me with what I wanna do
[20:35] <ws2k3> i upgraded form ubuntu 14.04 to ubuntu 16.06 and suddenly saslauthd is giving me this error PAM unable to dlopen(pam_mysql.so): /lib/security/pam_mysql.so: undefined symbol: make_scrambled_password what could this ?
[20:37] <leftyfb> ws2k3: you should be upgrading to 18.04 or 20.04. 14.04 went EOL over a year ago. 16.04 will be in 10 months
[20:44] <tomreyn> ws2k3: in addition to what lefty wrote, did you actually doa web search for the error message, "/lib/security/pam_mysql.so: undefined symbol: make_scrambled_password" ?
[20:45] <ws2k3> yes
[20:45] <tomreyn> and your findings were?
[20:45] <ws2k3> it seems that the pam module is not maintained anymore for a while.
[20:45] <ws2k3> so thats why it does not work anymore
[20:45] <ws2k3> but i was not finding an alternative. until now
[20:46] <tomreyn> my first search result is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam-mysql/+bug/1574900
[20:47] <tomreyn> indeed it looks like this bug fix was not pushed to 16.04, not sure why.
[20:48] <tomreyn> ah because "I'm afraid the pam-mysql source package is very much broken there"
[20:49] <Roey> hey all does this indicate an error with the usb module? https://pastebin.com/pgaWFfrr
[20:50] <Roey> er
[20:50] <Roey> with the bluetooth module
[20:50] <Roey> kernel module I mean.
[20:52] <tomreyn> Roey: no. it just states that a firmware configuration file that is specific to the very device you have there has not been found to be available.
[20:52] <Roey> ok
[20:52] <Roey> why is it unvaailable, all of a sudden?  How can I get it back?
[20:54] <jeremy31> Roey: is it blocked, in terminal check>  rfkill list
[20:55] <Roey> I reinstalled bluez
[20:55] <Roey> ok one sec, checkin
[20:56] <Roey> jeremy31: https://pastebin.com/HiKM4Dqn
[20:57] <jeremy31> Roey: in terminal try>  bluetoothctl   then do > power on
[20:57] <Roey> what do you mena
[20:58] <Roey> jeremy31: it does not echo my keystrokes
[20:58] <jeremy31> Roey: it is normal for no feedback when entering password
[20:58] <Roey> ok
[20:58] <Roey> I got no feedback
[20:59] <tomreyn> https://github.com/winterheart/broadcom-bt-firmware/blob/master/brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd?raw=true has the .hcd. it does seem to matter for some other users whether or not it's present.
[20:59] <jeremy31> Roey: try ctrl + c in terminal
[20:59] <Roey> I mean I get no feedback in bluetoothctl, jeremy31
[20:59] <Roey> ok
[20:59] <Roey> that worked.
[20:59] <Roey> so I did "> power on"
[20:59] <Roey> [bluetooth]# power on
[20:59] <Roey> No default controller available
[20:59] <jeremy31> Roey: but you have 2 bluetooth devices
[21:00] <Roey> jeremy31: well at least one, yeah.
[21:00] <Roey> I have the adapter
[21:00] <Roey> and the soundlink speaker
[21:00] <jeremy31> Roey: post URL>  lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:00] <Roey> jeremy31: ok, what of it?
[21:01] <Roey> https://termbin.com/472qs
[21:02] <tomreyn> hmm indeed 2 devices, interesting
[21:02] <Roey> ok
[21:02] <jeremy31> Might be some USB power issue, making it disconnect and reconnect
[21:02] <Roey> yeah I ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ no idea why it shows up twice
[21:03] <Roey> ok now--how do I make it so that plasma sees it
[21:03] <Roey> or blueman for that matter
[21:03] <tomreyn> so you have only one bluetooth dongle attached to usb, right?
[21:03] <Roey> right
[21:03] <Roey> that's right.
[21:04] <tomreyn> if you unplug this, is there still a line saying     0a5c:21e8 Broadcom Corp. BCM20702A0 Bluetooth 4.0     in    lsusb?
[21:04] <Roey> yes
[21:04] <Roey> there is one line
[21:05] <Roey> I put it back in, there are two lines now.
[21:05] <tomreyn> reboot with the dingle disconnected, then check lsusb for this line again
[21:05] <Roey> ok.
[21:07] <Roey> brb then.
[21:14] <independent> https://github.com/independentcod/mollyweb
[21:14] <tomreyn> independent: this doesn't look like an ubuntu support topic. what makes you post it here?
[21:14] <independent> spam
[21:15] <tomreyn> yeah, don't
[21:19] <jess> it was network-wide spam
[21:19] <IaMnEwHeRe> yeah... and fun, his certs are publicly available :D
[21:20] <IaMnEwHeRe> so MITM the sh**** out of it :D
[21:20] <tomreyn> please focus on ubuntu support here
[21:21] <Roey> hi
[21:21] <Roey> so..
[21:21] <Roey> I ran lsusb
[21:22] <Roey> there is no Broadcom bluetooth adapter listed there now.
[21:22] <Roey> (I rebooted without the Kinivo adapter removed from the usb socket)
[21:22] <Roey> er
[21:22] <Roey> er, I removed the Kinivo adapter and then rebooted.
[21:23] <tomreyn> Roey: is the    logitech unifying receiver    listed more than once?
[21:23] <tomreyn> wht is a Kinivo adapter?
[21:23] <tomreyn> *what
[21:23] <Roey> tomreyn: the Kinivo adapter is the Bluetooth adapter.
[21:23] <Roey> tomreyn: the Logitech receiver is there because I have two dongles: one for hte mouse and one for the keyboard.
[21:24] <tomreyn> can't you connect multiple devices to a single unify?
[21:24] <tomreyn> i was thinking you could
[21:24] <Roey> can I/
[21:24] <Roey> ?
[21:24] <Roey> how do I make it so that both devices connect to the same dongle?
[21:24] <Roey> anywya,
[21:24] <Roey> $ ps aux | grep bluetooth
[21:24] <Roey> roey        9531  0.0  0.0  43968  6640 ?        Ss   17:19   0:00 /usr/lib/bluetooth/obexd
[21:24] <Roey> so it is running /that/
[21:25] <Roey> not bluetoothd though.
[21:25] <Roey> also, when I rebooted, it hung waiting on bluetoothd.
[21:25] <Roey> not hung; just stayed there for a couple of minutes
[21:25] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version are you running, which kernel version?
[21:25] <Roey> $ uname -a
[21:25] <Roey> Linux gear 5.4.0-39-generic #43-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 19 10:28:31 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:25] <Roey> Release:        20.04
[21:25] <Roey> (from lsb_release -a)
[21:26] <tomreyn> ok
[21:26] <tomreyn> disconnect any usb devices you don't strictly need now.
[21:26] <Roey> ok
[21:26] <Roey> I mean I have my backup drive connected.
[21:26] <Roey> why, what do you think of doing?
[21:26] <tomreyn> saving power on the usb bus
[21:27] <Roey> ok.
[21:27] <tomreyn> once that's done, connect the bluetooth dongle on one of the blue usb connectors. you should have two different types since the computer has a USB2.0 and a USB3.0 hub
[21:27] <Roey> ok
[21:28] <tomreyn> when it's connected, check lsusb again, see if you have the BT dongle listed more than once
[21:28] <jeremy31> Roey: you might want to see if Solaar can connect one of those Logitech dongles to both devices
[21:29] <Roey> https://pastebin.com/ZDEnCmEu
[21:29] <Roey> ok
[21:29] <Roey> tomreyn, jeremy31: NOW the usb speaker works.
[21:30] <Roey> and i can see the usb applet in the tray
[21:30] <Roey> (plasma shell tray)
[21:32] <tomreyn> nice. so it's probably a power or port related problem
[21:33] <Roey> ok
[21:33] <Roey> hmm got it
[21:33] <Roey> thanks!
[21:33] <Roey> now with solaar, jeremy31,
[21:34] <Roey> I get this: Found a Logitech receiver, (/dev/hidraw2), but did not have permission to open it.  If you've just installed Solaar, try removing the receiver and plugging it back in.
[21:35] <jeremy31> Roey: I have never used solaar but is has been around for a few years
[21:35] <Roey> okay
[21:39] <tomreyn> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Logitech_Unifying_Receiver looks useful. and yes, you can pair up to 6 devices per controller.
[21:39] <tomreyn> s/controller/receiver/
[21:41] <tomreyn> (and each device can only be paired to one receiver at a time)
[21:42] <Roey> ok
[21:42] <Roey> ah I ran solaar as root with sudo and it works fine.
[21:42] <Roey> I see that I can pair / unpair devices now.
[21:42] <Roey> tomreyn, jeremy31: thank you for cluing me in to solaar
[21:42] <Roey> :)
[21:55] <tomreyn> Roey: nice. so try using just one unifying receiver and try to connecting the bluetooth dongle to the same usb port and don't connect too many other devices and ypou shoul dbe fine.
[21:55] <Roey> ok
[21:55] <Roey> this is the first time it's happened to me.
[21:55] <Roey> thank you!
[21:56] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[21:58] <Roey> :D
[22:00] <pizzaiolo> how can i disable embedded font bitmaps in ubuntu 20.04? i installed ttf-ms-corefonts-installer and calibri doesn't look so great at smaller sizes, specifically anything using ligatures
[22:07] <JordiGH> Are most people using Wayland or X?
[22:11] <compdoc> cant say ive ever used Wayland
[22:12] <JordiGH> I heard non-LTS defaulted to Wayland now. Real or malarkey?
[22:12] <JordiGH> I only use Ubuntu in remote VMs.
[22:13] <PonySoldier> guys should i store my assets on my vps with my application, or in object storage (e.g. s3)?
[22:14] <sarnold> JordiGH: 17.10 shipped with wayland by default, but that was it
[22:15] <Aavar> I am trying to connect to my server to run a graphical application. Before I have used ssh -x <host>. This does not work anymore. Any clue why? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fTGFNTCwmC/
[22:16] <Aavar> (c20.04)
[22:16] <Aavar> (v20.04)
[22:16] <JordiGH> sarnold: I see, thanks.
[22:16] <sarnold> Aavar: try ssh -X instead
[22:17] <Aavar> sarnold: I did. Thank you. I could have swore I had tried that, but.... Thank you :)
[22:17] <sarnold> Aavar: all sorted out? :)
[22:18] <Aavar> sarnold: yes :)
[22:18] <sarnold> yay :D
[22:28] <b1ack0p> hi
[22:28] <b1ack0p> i have interesting problem or bug
[22:28] <b1ack0p> i installed gnome shell extensions to get gnome classic
[22:28] <b1ack0p> but i am seeing dash bar there
[22:28] <b1ack0p> https://imgur.com/iLXdNMB
[22:28] <b1ack0p> ubuntu 20.04
[22:30] <rawfodog> Hi. Im having troubles understanding how this ssl cert configuration works in docker. Here is a line from the sample code I am trying to run (a docker arg). " -v ./path/to/cert.pem:/etc/nginx/custom-certificates/fullchain.pem -v ./path/to/key.pem:/etc/nginx/custom-certificates/privkey.pem " my question is, how do I generate the pem files to satisfy these arguments? I never heard of "fullchain" before. Thank you
[22:31] <b1ack0p> ook i found out the problem
[22:31] <b1ack0p> it was Ubuntu dock which was set on
[22:32] <b1ack0p> extension
[22:32] <b1ack0p> on tweak tools
[22:45] <Jordan_U> rawfodog: I think you need to actually get the certificate files from a service like letsencrypt.    I have a usb drive and used gparted to create a GPT partition table on it, and 1 partion, filling the drive (~64G), and format this partition with ext4.  Even though it says the partiion is 59GB, when I mount it and run `df -h`, it shows it as size 640M.  If I try copying files to it, it fills up pretty fast.  Second, in gparted, after applying the preceeding
[22:56] <derekv> changes (which all say OK), it then puts a warning that the filesystem does not fill the partition.  Last thing that bothers me, in df -h, it says the device is "/dev/loop26" not "/dev/sdb1", even though I mount it using `sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usbdrive`
[22:56] <tespi> rawfodog: it's also possible to generate them via self-signing, but any sensible web client will complain about it
[22:56] <PonySoldier> Roey: correct
[22:58] <derekv> I've tried using fdisk and mkfs.extfs and get the same results.
[22:58] <brandflake11> Does anyone know on here if themes websites like pling.com/mate-look are safe. Like, can I just go there and install themes and not worry about malware?
[23:10] <byroniac> brandflake11 I don't know the direct answer, but if you use Google Chrome, you can use the Malwarebytes browser extension which will alert you about bad websites and things like that.
[23:13] <leftyfb> byroniac: they left
[23:20] <derekv> I don't understand why my ext4 filesystem is 640MB when the partition it's on is 59GB.
[23:20] <derekv> resize2fs says "nothing to do"
[23:23] <byroniac> leftyb oh I missed that thanks
[23:26] <Jordan_U> derekv: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sdXY" (where XY is replaced by the appropriate numbers for your device).
[23:30] <CarlFK> 2.6 seconds after boot and I get  [    2.641593] ------------[ cut here ]------------  which maybe I should do something about before trying to fix  [   81.029575] usb 2-1.6: USB disconnect, device number 4
[23:31] <CarlFK> dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Cs2j3wdcF8/
[23:32] <CarlFK> really I am trying to figure out why my LENOVO ThinkPad Twist 33476LU web cam only works most of the time
[23:34] <Jordan_U> CarlFK: What led you to add "i8042.nomux=1 i8042.reset" to your kernel parameters?
[23:35] <CarlFK> Jordan_U: hmm... I remember doing that... but why...
[23:37] <Jordan_U> CarlFK: I highly recommend installing etckeeper and making commit messages when making changes like this. (Do be careful about never using git checkout directly though, can destroy important permissions on files without any warning).
[23:40] <CarlFK> Jordan_U: found the history: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1210748/comments/35
[23:40] <CarlFK> ack.. the credit link is 404. swell.
[23:41] <CarlFK> ack.. the credit link got ...ed ... wut happened to my bug report?
[23:41]  * CarlFK /j #launchpad
[23:41] <cluelessperson> Who was the guy helping me with the apparent chrome bug?
[23:41] <cluelessperson> the new version of Ubuntu seems to work perfectly for me! :D
[23:42] <cluelessperson> tomreyn, Several days in, and ubuntu has been performing perfectly!  I'm in love!
[23:43] <Jordan_U> CarlFK: OK. Seems not likely to be related to this problem.
[23:47] <CarlFK> Jordan_U: agreed. (I hope :p )
[23:59] <mcc> Hi. I ran do-release-upgrade on an Ubuntu 14 machine. It printed something about downloading xenial, then some error or warning messages, then terminated. After it terminated I could see the disk was full. I think it terminated early and now I am in some intermediate state. How much trouble am I in?


[01:06] <rww> !stevenk
[01:06] <rww> I see someone else got to it first ;P
[01:08] <Flannel> was:  Here is the Cleaner of the archive, and killer of NBS!
[01:08] <Flannel> I have no idea what that means though.
[02:17] <bazhang>  (~D34X  aka dommer
[02:18] <IdleOne> ??
[02:19] <bazhang> the dreaded "going back to windows!!" gambit
[02:19] <genii-around> Yes
[02:20] <genii-around> "well if *buntu doesn't have <fill in blank > I'll have to go back to windows"
[02:25] <bazhang> wow rude user
[02:25] <bazhang> that's a *first* !
[02:26] <IdleOne> -!blog is <reply> #ubuntu is the official Ubuntu support channel, for non support chat please /join #ubuntu-offtopic. If you feel like whining and moaning find the appropriate blogging application and use it!
[02:26]  * genii-around slides hypatia a tea
[02:26] <bazhang> hehe
[02:26] <IdleOne> any objections to me adding that factoid?
[02:26] <rww> yes
[02:26] <bazhang> yes
[02:26] <IdleOne> :(
[02:26] <IdleOne> ok
[02:27] <bazhang> better t o prolong it
[02:27] <genii-around> Heh
[02:27] <IdleOne> what's wrong with it ?
[02:28] <bazhang> it's a slippery slope from that to !pebcak
[02:28] <bazhang> then we've morphed into #fedora
[02:28] <genii-around> It does verge on being condescending to users
[02:28] <IdleOne> I can never have no fun :(
[02:29] <bazhang> 1) it's rude
[02:29] <IdleOne> it was mostly a joke
[02:29] <IdleOne> and if there is only 1 thing wrong with it I didn't do too bad
[02:29] <bazhang> not to mention dismissive and likely to get even more complaints, thus escalating an already upset user
[02:30] <bazhang> so that's three.
[02:30] <rww> It's hard to catalyze well using factoids.
[02:30] <IdleOne> ok. so no telling people to go blog somewhere else
[02:31] <bazhang> !google
[02:31] <rww> I also note that I attempted to create a !blog for -ot at one point and couldn't find a suitable wording for the above reasons.
[02:31] <bazhang> seems not far from that, ie the antithesis
[02:36] <bazhang> simultaneous x-servers?
[02:36] <rww> sure
[02:37] <genii-around> Used to be able to do a startx in different console, not sure thats possible anymore
[02:37] <rww> Multipe X servers sounds annoying to do and I've never done it, but it's possible.
[02:37] <bazhang> on two monitors?
[02:38] <Jordan_U> It used to be fairly common, from my recolection at least.
[02:38] <bazhang> dont know wh y she does ask in #compiz about this
[03:01] <genii-around> Any objection to clarifying  !fr with something like: Les Canadiens qui parlent français visitent le ##ubuntu-qc si vous svp     ?
[03:01] <bazhang> si vous svp?
[03:01] <Flannel> genii-around: does -qc do support?
[03:01] <rww> !fr
[03:02] <Flannel> genii-around: Sometimes LoCo channels don't do support, so we direct to language channels instead (br and pt come to mind)
[03:02] <rww> Is there a problem with non-Canadian French speakers wandering in to #ubuntu-qc (was the ## a typo?) or something?
[03:02] <genii-around> rww: The ## was typo, yes
[03:05] <genii-around> rww: I don't know if there's currently an issue with the wandering-in on non-Canadians there, probably not  :) Just for clarification that the -qc *is* for Quebec
[03:07] <IdleOne> non french speaking people are more then welcome in -qc
[03:08] <IdleOne> we don't have a steadfast rule about speaking French in there
[03:08] <bazhang> quoi?
[03:08] <IdleOne> it is preferred.
[03:08] <IdleOne> pardon? que?
[03:09] <genii-around> IdleOne: Yes, I know. The !ca doesn't even mention -qc for instance either, however
[03:09] <rww> !ca
[03:09]  * genii-around toys with appending: aussi, #ubuntu-qc
[03:10] <IdleOne> as for support in -qc it is luck of the draw. you may or may not find someone. -fr has a larger support community
[03:10] <rww> If -us is anything to go by, I wonder why that isn't #ubuntu-ca-qc
[03:11] <IdleOne> I don't know if there are any other -province channels to be honest
[03:11] <rww> ps, I hope you appreciate me not saying all the jokes that keep popping up in my head :(
[03:12] <genii-around> Quebec is odd situation. Sort of like the territories of the US like Puerto Rico, etc
[03:12] <rww> I was trying to find a Puerto Rico channel the other day. Is there one? Is there even a LoCo at all?
[03:12] <IdleOne> genii-around: heh, Quebec does actually have an official status as a province
[03:13] <IdleOne> For the record the rest of Canada is a "special case" much like Puerto Rico.
[03:13] <genii-around> IdleOne: Yes, but they wished they don't! ;)
[03:13] <genii-around> rww: Apparently there is an ubuntu-pr.org
[03:13] <IdleOne> genii-around: the last couple of referendums would disagree
[03:14] <IdleOne> the last federal election would also suggest the same
[03:14] <IdleOne> anyway what started all this?
[03:14] <genii-around> rww: Their channel is apparently #ubuntu-puertorico and not like #ubuntu-us-pr
[03:15]  * genii-around sips and hides
[03:16] <IdleOne> !qc
[03:16] <IdleOne> !fr
[03:16] <IdleOne> genii-around: what did you want to edit?
[03:16] <rww> Obviously the best solution is to kick all the Quebecois into #ubuntu-ca and use #ubuntu-qc to discuss the best webcomic.
[03:16] <IdleOne> +1 ^
[03:16] <Flannel> haha
[03:21] <genii-around> At any rate... it makes sense to me now to leave !fr alone, since if your Quebecois sees the -qc channel in !fr it's self obvious. I however would like to append the "aussi #ubuntu-qc" to !ca however, if no one strenuously objects
[03:21] <Flannel> genii-around: Do you want general canadians to join -qc?
[03:22] <genii-around> Flannel: Certainly, if they prefer
[03:22] <genii-around> We're all about choice here :)
[03:22] <IdleOne> genii-around: I am fine with that
[03:23] <genii-around> IdleOne: OK, cool
[04:51] <Corey> InfectedSoul is being abusive in #centos as well.
[05:39] <Flannel> rww: .14.131 instead of .3.133, could be.
[05:40] <rww> same ISP, use of webchat, and I think miroperson used ubuntu* as a nick too
[05:40] <rww> also, you know, the attitude problem
[05:40] <Flannel> rww: There's a 1 in 62025 chance you're right!
[05:41] <genii-around> Heh
[05:41] <rww> no there isn't :(
[06:04] <GTRsdk> I have a question
[06:05] <Flannel> GTRsdk: We have responses!
[06:05] <rww> I have offtopic and vaguely-amusing comments!
[06:05] <GTRsdk> If I want to create a project similar to Lubuntu that is based on Ubuntu, can I create a channel such as #winebuntu?
[06:05] <ldunn> No.
[06:05] <ldunn> oh wait
[06:05] <ldunn> Sorry, yes
[06:05]  * ldunn hits self in face
[06:06] <GTRsdk> Will I have to add a group to the access list?
[06:07] <Flannel> GTRsdk: Regarding your project as a whole, be sure you're aware of the Ubuntu trademark policy: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[06:10] <GTRsdk> Flannel, so I should consider naming it Ubuntu, Wine remix?
[06:11] <Flannel> GTRsdk: Consider it, sure.  I just wanted to make sure you'd seen that, as it's somewhat important :)
[06:12] <Flannel> GTRsdk: Is the bulk of your changes adding wine by default?
[06:12] <rww> you should consider not making yet another derivative of Ubuntu, imnsho
[06:12] <GTRsdk> Flannel, the main changes would be adding Wine, and using the Lubuntu default environment
[06:13] <genii-around> There are other projects which are much further ahead in this kind of endeavour, like REACTos
[06:17] <GTRsdk> Flannel, I was thinking also maybe some wine glasses instead of the circles in the ring (ubuntu logo) and a special wallpaper
[06:18] <Flannel> GTRsdk: If you're just going to change stuff like that (obviously your repos will be very similar) then calling it a remix is probably your best bet.
[06:18] <Flannel> GTRsdk: I suggest Lubuntu Wine Remix orsomething though, since that'll make more sense with what you're doing (taking Lubuntu, remixing it)
[06:19] <GTRsdk> Flannel, and I should probably contact Canonical? so a more appropriate channel would be #lubuntu-wineremix ?
[06:19] <rww> speaking purely from freenode rules, #lubuntu-wineremix is part of the #lubuntu* namespace, and thus subject to their rules
[06:20] <Flannel> GTRsdk: I don't believe you need to contact canonical for the remix, no.  But I am not a lawyer.
[06:21] <rww> and speaking as a Debian and Ubuntu user, I seriously recommend you reconsider making Yet Another Derivative, because it seems to lack a point.
[06:26] <GTRsdk> rww, was Fluxbuntu shut down from Canonical or was it abandoned?
[06:26] <rww> No idea.
[06:42] <GTRsdk> thanks for the info. I don't think I'll create a Winebuntu or a Lubuntu Wine Remix, so I'm out of here
[06:54] <jussi> If anyone is interested, fluxbuntu still lives...
[07:33] <knome> heh?
[08:13] <jussi> knome: backscroll about 6 or 7 lines
[08:15] <knome> jussi, :)
[08:20] <Jordan_U> jussi: Define living...
[08:22] <knome> living != dead
[08:22] <knome> :)
[08:23] <Jordan_U> knome: Define dead in a way that does not accurately describe Fluxbuntu :)
[08:23] <Tm_T> living != dead != living
[08:23] <knome> Jordan_U, dead != living
[08:23] <knome> ;)
[08:24] <rww> this sounds like a perfect time for braaaaaiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnsssssss
[08:29] <genii-around> I just woke up when annoying off-the-air sound of TV screeched, realized I dozed off with computer on lap, bleh. Goodnight
[08:31] <rww> TV channels still go off the air? I thought that was, like, an 80's thing.
[10:12] <Flannel> rww: more like a 70s thing.
[10:12] <Flannel> rww: 80s invented infomercials (well, late 70s)
[10:14] <Flannel> Mmm, no, i guess it was the 80s afterall.
[15:33] <Pici> jpds: Did the 9.04 archives just get moved to old-releases recently? We've had a spike in people asking about installing from that release lately.
[15:58] <ikonia> do I know 15:58 -!- D34X is now known as Dommer
[16:00] <IdleOne> baz hang pasted that yesterday also
[16:01] <ikonia> the DX34 bit is what stands out to me
[16:02] <IdleOne> mahen23 is still banned in -ot? if so he just ban evaded with<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:02] <ikonia> ace
[16:03] <IdleOne> err .94 that is
[16:03] <IdleOne> .53 was old ip
[16:03] <ikonia> change it to ident at some point
[21:17] <Tm_T> hi slack-m
[21:18] <slack-m> Hello
[21:19] <Tm_T> slack-m: you're aware why you're here?
[21:21] <slack-m> Probably cause I'm banned from #ubuntu cause I accidently sent an amsg out when I was on freenode. I have it on autojoin and sometimes forget to close it before AMSG'ing
[21:23] <Tm_T> I would assume #freenode doesn't enjoy having the "advertisements" either generally
[21:23] <Tm_T> also, you did advertise in #ubuntu twice within 24 hours
[21:25] <Tm_T> slack-m: can we trust you wont advertise in #ubuntu anymore?
[21:38] <Tm_T> slack-m: hello?
[21:40] <slack-m> yes
[21:40] <slack-m> Tm_T, i am sorry
[21:40] <slack-m> about that
[21:40] <slack-m> Tm_T, and yes, i try to never advertise on freenode
[21:40] <slack-m> once in a while i let it slip when im not paying attn
[21:41] <Tm_T> there's other channels too you did which I'm not happy with, but it's not the current business
[21:41] <Tm_T> slack-m: can we trust you wont advertise in #ubuntu anymore?
[21:42] <slack-m> Yes
[21:43] <ikonia> Tm_T: I'm not happy with this
[21:43] <ikonia> the guys doing it in other channels and multiple times in #ubuntu
[21:43] <ikonia> (noting for the record)
[21:43] <Tm_T> twice in #ubuntu, I'm going to talk about the other channels I'm related to in a moment
[21:44] <ikonia> understood
[21:45] <Tm_T> slack-m: the ban is removed for now and you may part this channel, will catch you in PM in a moment
[21:50] <CarlFK> slack-m: seems you are not too interested.  that too seems worth pointing out.
[21:51] <slack-m> I am busy as hell, im a programmer
[21:51] <slack-m> its not that im not interested
[21:51] <slack-m> im just busy
[21:51] <Tm_T> slack-m: ok, you may part this channel
[21:51] <slack-m> and, for the record, what I advertised, was not in any way shape fasion or form to make money.
[21:52] <slack-m> or porn
[21:52] <slack-m> or anything like that
[21:52] <slack-m> just 'for the record'
[21:52] <slack-m> as long as your on the 'for the record' kick
[21:52] <slack-m> what i was advertising was a project i work on personally in my spare time to contribute to the community
[21:53] <Tm_T> that's why I said advertising, not spam
[21:53] <slack-m> ;]
[21:54] <slack-m> and it was an accident
[21:54] <slack-m> seriously
[21:54] <slack-m> cause, no one on freenode plays that game
[21:54] <slack-m> i wouldnt bother trying to direct anything this way
[21:54] <LjL> just goes to show that /amsg is evil :P
[21:54] <Tm_T> never used it, prolly never will
[21:54] <Pici> slack-m: I would have just asked you to not do that, but you had signed off right after you sent the amsg.
[21:55] <slack-m> LjL, im on 5 networks, 4 of which are gamingnetworks and directed at them, as they are all related to the game. freenode is just on my autojoin cause I'm an avid linux user
[21:55] <slack-m> Pici, yea, i signed off so i wouldnt do it again
[21:55] <slack-m> i relised i did it
[21:55] <slack-m> and was like
[21:55] <slack-m> SHIIIIIIIIIIIt
[21:56] <LjL> it's ok mistakes happen, just my personal opinion is that if you have to advertize, you may as well take the time to do it manually to each relevant channel... but that's just my two cents
[21:56] <Tm_T> ok, I'm going to sleep, good night all
[21:56] <LjL> night
[21:56] <slack-m> LjL, i would agree, if i wasnt in 70 channels relevant to the game, and only in channels that are relevant(normally)
[21:56] <slack-m> ;]
[21:56] <slack-m> gn Tm_T
[23:18] <rww> slack-m: if you're all set now, please /part the channel so we can keep better track of who needs help :)
[23:22] <rww> hypatia: did you set your nickserv account to not autovoice or something? (or is my irssi being weird and not showing a +v)
[23:22] <IdleOne> xchat is being also in that case
[23:22] <IdleOne> being weird*
[23:23] <rww> k. she's identified though, so I suspect nickservness
[23:23] <rww> although the "Last seen" seems wrong, so maybe it got confused
[23:31] <hypatia> rww: no idea
[23:32] <rww> hypatia: can you /msg nickserv logout and then /msg nickserv identify etc?


[01:13] <CharlieMartinez> Hello ¿someone speak spanish, like me?
 Hello, I'm from Indonesia
[01:15] <Eickmeyer> !es | CharlieMartinez
[01:16] <CharlieMartinez> Thank you ubottu. I'm very interested in talking to people who are specifically using ubuntu studio, and for music production.
[01:17] <Eickmeyer> CharlieMartinez: If you wish to talk about non-support-related topics, join #ubuntustudio-offtopic, but that's also an English-only group.
[01:17] <CharlieMartinez> I just tried AVLinux and I loved it, but I couldn't configure my Presonus studiolive 16.0.2 interface so that it doesn't have latency. Although jack indicated 5 milliseconds, the real latency was higher. That's why I'm installing UbuntuStudio right now, to see if I can solve that problem.
[01:18] <Eickmeyer> CharlieMartinez: Which version of Ubuntu Studio?
[01:19] <CharlieMartinez> If I tried to use AVLinux is because at home, for everything that is video editing and animation -in addition to musician I'm an animator- I use Debian for years and I'm amazed at how stable it is. My doubt, then, is whether Ubuntu Studio will be as stable as Debian. Official Ubuntu, a few years ago, when I tested it back in version 13 -I think- was not as stable as Debian...
[01:20] <CharlieMartinez> I'm installing the current version, 18.10.
[01:20] <CharlieMartinez> On an i7 with 32 gb ram and amd video board. I got tired of how badly this beautiful machine works with Windows.
[01:22] <Eickmeyer> CharlieMartinez: The main reason to use Ubuntu Studio over stock-Debian is for the audio configuration tools available, and the under-the-hood performance tweaks and that JACK will work out-of-the-box. One thing you need to do if you want extremely low latency is disable the PulseAudio bridge using Ubuntu Studio Controls.
[01:22] <Eickmeyer> Ubuntu Studio Controls is included with 18.10, and there's an updated version in our backports repository at ppa:ubuntustudio-ppa/backports.
[01:23] <Eickmeyer> Play around with it, and give it a try. You'll never know until you do.
[01:25] <CharlieMartinez> Ericmeyer, thank you so much for the information! I just wrote everything down, including the repository where I can find the updated version. The installation is almost finished, I'm very anxious.
[01:25] <CharlieMartinez> Thank you, thank you very much!
[01:25] <Eickmeyer> You're welcome. :)
[01:26] <CharlieMartinez> byebye!
[03:02] <studiobot> douglasdrumz was added by: douglasdrumz
[06:46] <studiobot> Rogman was added by: Rogman
[07:02] <studiobot> gennargiu was added by: gennargiu
 hi boys from naples italy and good work at all comunity ubuntu studio
 Hi Gennaro! FYI, this is the support channel. Basic chat can be done in the Cafe link.
 👍
[11:54] <studiobot> Rogman was removed by: Rogman
[14:57] <studiobot> Sakrecoer was added by: Sakrecoer
 Hi! Nice move to bridge to telegram :)
[18:07] <studiobot> azbulutlu was added by: azbulutlu
[18:08] <DirtyEar> Hi
[18:08] <DirtyEar> I am Jorge
[18:09] <DirtyEar> I am having problems with my screen
[18:10] <DirtyEar> There is a black line above the screen
[18:10] <DirtyEar> Is there any solution to this?
[18:18] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: Sounds like an Xfce issue. Try asking in #xubuntu or #ubuntu.
[18:19] <DirtyEar> OK thanks
[19:16] <studiobot> Андрей was added by: Андрей
 @Sakrecoer [Hi! Nice move to bridge to telegram :)], Don't forget to join the Cafe (-offtopic)! Would love to have you there.
 Cheers :) I'm there too
[19:45] <studio-user539> hi, how do I add backports to 18.04?
[19:46] <studio-user539> sorry for asking such a basic question
[19:46] <studio-user539> but  I can't find the info on google
 You open the command line and add the repository of the backports.
 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntustudio-ppa/backports
 then do the "sudo apt update & upgrade" or can install the new software on the repository.
 studio-user539: I can't imagine there would be any documentation on Google since it was only officially announced yesterday.
[19:59] <studio-user539> that explains it then :-)
[19:59] <studio-user539> thanks
[20:00] <studio-user539> y terminal says: 'Error reading https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&options=mr&exact=on&search=0x1220A5ECBA1FE99F04CBF741F596CF7036BBAA6D: Not Found'
[20:01] <studio-user539> ah
[20:01] <studio-user539> there we are, it worked
[20:34] <studiobot> ahangarha was added by: ahangarha
 Erich I would need some help, first when I had installed cadence I used the bridge in pulse audio and I could control the volume of the sound card maudio firewire only by the - and + buttons on the keyboard, now I have to resort to the mouse as I have no chance to run this operation. How could I solve this problem? thank you
 @gennargiu [Erich I would need some help, first when I had installed cadence I used the brid …], Are you trying to use JACK right now?
 no right now
 but it's activate
 erich on cadence i controlled volume on my keyboard for pulseaudio jack server bridge, not volume mixer maudio firewire solo
 Okay, then open Ubuntu Studio Controls and click on "Stop Jack". PulseAudio should then default to your internal sound card. Switch PulseAudio to your external audio device for the default using pavucontrol.
 If OvenWerks is available, he might be able to help you further troubleshoot.
 now on ubuntu control i don't control
 I don't understand.
 on cadence with the bridge activated on pulseaudio I could use the buttons on the keyboard to control the volume of the audio output of the maew firewire. Now instead I can not do this for example when I see a video from youtube with firefox ..... the volume keys on the keyboard have no effect, I have to use the mouse to control the
[20:55] <studiobot>  volume
 @gennargiu [on cadence with the bridge activated on pulseaudio I could use the buttons on th …], Okay, I understood that part. We might have to wait for OvenWerks on this one since he's the author of Ubuntu Studio Controls. When Jack is running, it should send pulseaudio (system sounds, therefore whatever your media controls do)
[20:58] <studiobot>  directly to your Jack Sink, which is then connected to whatever you set Pulse to be connectted to. I recommend opening carla and seeing how it's routed, if you have that installed.
 the same is true for audio jack activated, the volume keys on the keyboard have no effect to adjust the volume of the ffado mixer
 i have carla installed
 Then make sure PulseOut is connected to your maudio.
 @gennargiu [<reply to image>], We're going to have to wait for OvenWerks on this one. I'm stumped.
 I don't have any FireWire audio devices with which to test. I only have USB devices.
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 on asus x54c i used behringer uca 200 usb audio card on behringher podcast studio usb
 Ubuntu Studio Controls can do a lot with USB. I use a Behringer UPHORIA UMC404HD myself.
 good audio card berhingher umc 404 hd
 I use a Behringer uphoria UMC22


[00:29] <jedijf> put more effort in the blog posts than the title
[00:31] <ChinnoDog> jedijf: I'm going to try to use every dog idiom there is. lol. One per post! But, what is the title going to be??
[00:31] <ChinnoDog> It is my blog/wiki/repository of obscure human knowledge
[00:32] <jedijf> the pound
[00:33] <jedijf> spca
[00:34] <ChinnoDog> spca?
[00:35] <jedijf> the bark
[00:36] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: society for the prevention of cruelty to animals
[00:38] <jedijf> oh oh oh , Go on the paper
[00:38] <ChinnoDog> lol
[00:38] <ChinnoDog> I can't call my blog that!
[00:39] <jedijf> paper trained
[00:40] <ChinnoDog> Maybe if that can be turned into a metaphore that doesn't allude too strongly to pooping.
[00:41] <rmg51> all the poop that's fit to blog
[00:48] <MutantTurkey> poop eh?
[01:14]  * ChinnoDog sighs loudly
[01:15] <TheEvilPhoenix> foobarbaz?
[01:15] <TheEvilPhoenix> :p
[01:21] <ChinnoDog> Maybe I could combine two idioms into something rediculous
[01:28] <ChinnoDog> idk
[01:28] <ChinnoDog> I'm going to go kick some puppies now
[01:29] <ChinnoDog> This project could be another inflatable dog and pony show anyway.
[01:42] <jthan> jedijf: when is the next official meeting/
[01:49] <InHisName> I just went to and came back from the alternate os group in Brwn Mwar     Lotta rain falling.
[01:50] <InHisName> ChinnoBlog
[02:04] <ChinnoDog> InHisName: lame
[02:25] <ChinnoDog> gobble gobble
[02:25] <ChinnoDog> MutantTurkey: If you had a blog that would be an acceptable title.
[02:25] <ChinnoDog> Wait. Do you have a blog? I am remembering you have something.
[02:27] <ChinnoDog> I'm not subscribed to it, wherever it is.
[02:33] <MutantTurkey> nope
[02:33] <MutantTurkey> I decided I don't have anything to blog about.
[02:33] <MutantTurkey> :/
[02:33] <MutantTurkey> I just have a website
[02:33] <MutantTurkey> ping
[02:33] <MutantTurkey> http://www.mutantturkey.com/
[02:33] <MutantTurkey> website
[02:33] <MutantTurkey> no blog there
[02:33] <MutantTurkey> though I may start one soon
[02:34] <MutantTurkey> doing lots of devel so maybe that wuld be interesting
[02:34] <MutantTurkey> dunno
[02:34] <ChinnoDog> It is a blog without a blog
[02:34] <MutantTurkey> i suppose
[02:34] <MutantTurkey> actually i use it
[02:34] <MutantTurkey> it has links to everywhere i need to go
[02:34] <ChinnoDog> So, it is your home page?
[02:34] <MutantTurkey> yes
[02:35] <MutantTurkey> in a very good sense of it
[02:39] <MutantTurkey> okay, need gurus here to help!
[02:40] <MutantTurkey> I have 5000+ SVN commits i need to work through. I figure that using LibreOffice Calc will be good (aka Excel) way to work through it and sort it and so on
[02:40] <MutantTurkey> basically we are releasing trinity 3.5.13 and some unlucky soul needs to make release notes (me)
[02:41] <MutantTurkey> so i am thinking if I can export my svn log to an excel document...
[02:42] <MutantTurkey> I can output in xml
[02:42] <MutantTurkey> hmmm
[03:09] <MutantTurkey> xslt very nice
[09:54] <rmg51> Morning
[10:06] <JonathanD> wheee
[10:20] <rmg51> as the old saying goes..... another day another dollar :-/
[12:06] <teddy-dbear> morning
[12:11] <InHisName> morning Mr teddy-dbear
[12:12]  * InHisName realizes that only the ones with jobs get that dollar.
[13:36] <ChinnoDog> What do you call those Wheel of Fortune puzzles that combine two unrelated phrases?
[13:45] <InHisName> Like this ChinnoDog ?   piece of cake walk
[13:53] <ChinnoDog> exactly
[13:54] <ChinnoDog> dog pound of flesh
[14:05] <InHisName> Its called "before and after", ChinnoDog
[14:16] <ChinnoDog> I could call my blog "Tail wag the dog and bark yourself"
[14:17] <ChinnoDog> Here is the decryption key: http://www.cesarsway.com/news/dognews/dog-idioms
[14:17] <ChinnoDog> It isn't a Before and After. It is mangled.
[15:18] <InHisName1> update mgr: 110 items, one kept failing the 'unzip' portion.  Rebooted 1 selected, it worked this time.  No more updates.   All good on background machine.
[15:19] <InHisName1> Funny, 11.04 said that my background machine could not support Unity and it gave me regular. Now Unitiy is there in 11.10 !
[15:40] <MutantTurkey> funny how that is
[15:53] <jedijf> it's probably 2d unity....unity is the only default, no more gnome-classic fallback
[15:54] <ChinnoDog> Glad I jumped ship before that happened.
[16:49] <InHisName> jumped ship, where ? Into the wild waters of Windows ?
[16:55] <ChinnoDog> no. xubuntu
[16:55] <ChinnoDog> It is unity free
[16:57] <ssweeny> oh unity's not so bad
[16:58] <ssweeny> it's certainly not directed at technical folks
[17:00] <InHisName> ChinnoDog: you're still on that same ship, just changed cabins.  ubuntu / linux ship
[17:01] <ChinnoDog> That other part needs to be removed at the next overhaul
[17:02] <ssweeny> so if you're used to tweaking every little thing you won't be happy
[17:02] <ssweeny> and i have my list of gripes to bring up again next week at UDS
[17:02] <ssweeny> but for the most part it works well
[17:02] <ssweeny> (i personally hate having the menus in the panel for non-maximized windows. griped about it last year. will gripe again)
[17:03] <InHisName> I keep forgetting to look WAY up over to left for more things to do to, ssweeny
[17:28] <rmg51> I'm with ChinnoDog
[17:28] <rmg51> xfce
[17:31] <rmg51> I need at least on working panel for the extras that I use that work off a panel
[17:53] <ChinnoDog> Maybe I should start #xubuntu-us-pa
[17:54] <jedijf> 6 months late to the debate
[17:59] <ChinnoDog> What was the debate?
[18:36] <SamuraiAlba> Good tofurkey to all!
[18:36] <InHisName> tofurkey ?    u gone veggie on us ??!!??
[18:38] <SamuraiAlba> no
[18:38] <SamuraiAlba> Two defective heart valvesAND a thickened left ventricle
[18:39] <InHisName> You're just a youngster, you're not supposed to have those things this early.
[18:43] <ChinnoDog> not enough bacon
[18:50] <SamuraiAlba> I miss bacons :(
[18:50] <InHisName> I guess you would.
[18:52] <InHisName> Not only miss out on bacon but most other high salt and high fat foods don't you?
[18:57] <ChinnoDog> om nom high fat
[19:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> B A C O N?
[19:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[19:00]  * TheEvilPhoenix has some bacon
[21:33] <ChinnoDog> starting to get hungry
[21:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> any of you skilled wtih ubuntu server and PEM?
[21:33]  * TheEvilPhoenix needs some help
[21:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> and neither #ubuntu nor #ubuntu-server are helpful
[21:34] <ChinnoDog> There is an #ubuntu-us-dc you know
[21:34] <TheEvilPhoenix> whats that :P
[21:34] <ChinnoDog> oh
[21:34] <ChinnoDog> sorry
[21:34]  * TheEvilPhoenix slaps ChinnoDog :P
[21:34] <ChinnoDog> I forgot what channel i was in!
[21:34]  * ChinnoDog slaps ChinnoDog around a bit with a large trout
[21:35] <ChinnoDog> I don't know what PEM is
[22:19] <ChinnoDog> TheEvilPhoenix: what is PEM?
[22:20] <TheEvilPhoenix> your face
[22:20] <TheEvilPhoenix> :p
[22:20] <jedijf> cert stuff ssl
[22:20] <jedijf> etc
[22:20] <TheEvilPhoenix> jedijf:  aye.  i got it all fixed though
[22:21] <TheEvilPhoenix> btw you arent identified
[22:21] <TheEvilPhoenix> desynced?
[23:58] <anduril> holy hell on a turkey leg Accuweather saying 9.1in NWS 5-10in and weather.com saying 10-15in for my zip code!??!