[17:39] <NeXTSUN> why does Ubuntu say Enter new unix passowrd.... Iisn't this linux??? I am working with?
[17:39] <sveinse> On 16.04 under gnome shell, how do I remove a BT device (a mouse). If I select the device, I get the status dialog with a big red "remove device" button on it. Press it and confirm the removal. Nothing. How can I delete the device manually?
[17:39] <branjoe> change your password bp_
[17:39] <branjoe> and make it more complex than that also pls
[17:40] <NeXTSUN> why does Ubuntu say Enter new unix passowrd.... Iisn't this linux??? I am working with?
[17:40] <bp_> i promise u, branjoe how can i?
[17:40] <NeXTSUN> why does Ubuntu say Enter new unix passowrd.... Iisn't this linux??? I am working with?
[17:40] <bp_> i'm soo new that i haven't tought to use a complex passw
[17:41] <branjoe> uhm
[17:41] <NeXTSUN> why does Ubuntu say Enter new unix passowrd.... Iisn't this linux??? I am working with?
[17:41] <branjoe> .msg nickserv help
[17:41] <jatt> because Enter new linux passowrd would sound retarded
[17:41] <NeXTSUN> why does unix make it not retarded
[17:41] <NeXTSUN> ubuntu is not unix
[17:41] <branjoe> wat
[17:42] <NeXTSUN> ubuntu is not unix
[17:42] <NeXTSUN> why does Ubuntu say Enter new unix passowrd.... Iisn't this linux??? I am working with?
[17:42] <branjoe> :\
[17:42] <dax> NeXTSUN: Cut it out, please.
[17:42] <jatt> jeez
[17:42] <branjoe> what is going on here
[17:42] <NeXTSUN> I want to know why
[17:42] <NeXTSUN> it is saying that
[17:42] <jatt> you can change it
[17:42] <branjoe> i cant even
[17:43] <NeXTSUN> the password message just shows how retarted opensource software is
[17:43] <sveinse> NeXTSUN: oh, please stop
[17:43] <NeXTSUN> why is it calling ubuntu unix?
[17:43] <Zteam> wadadli, well, that's not really that neccesearly at all anymore, look at the PS4 Console for example I don't know about any hacks for that, Xbox One is another example or the very famous music software
[17:43] <jatt> 🙄
[17:44] <Zteam> nicomachus, any idea? :-)
[17:45] <notososos> hello
[17:45] <notososos> what is the difference between repo and http in sources.lst?
[17:45] <branjoe> is it true that almost all devices are hackable and can have *nix installed to them?
[17:46] <nicomachus> branjoe: no. depends on hardware. but that's a question for #linux, not here.
[17:46] <branjoe> ubuntu [17:47] <nicomachus> branjoe: but this is a support channel for ubuntu, not a discussion channel.
[17:48] <silentbob> I'm having quite the situation is there someone who might be able to help?
[17:48] <nicomachus> Zteam: i'm not sure. any hints in dmesg?
[17:48] <branjoe> ah in that case you are right
[17:48] <branjoe> thanks for letting me know :)
[17:48] <Jordan_U> simbaclaws: Please as your question and if anyone thinks they can help they will chime in :)
[17:48] <simbaclaws> I have quite the situation with a laptop/tablet it's a tablet inside of a laptop and I'm trying to do some things
[17:48] <Jordan_U> *ask
[17:48] <Zteam> NeXTSUN, ubuntu is based on Linux, Linux is inspired by Unix and shares (to a large extent as least) the same design goals (Linus Torvalds basically wanted to make a free Unix system
[17:49] <simbaclaws> basically it's a medion laptop and it has a hard drive disk inside of the tablet part and a hard drive disk inside of the laptop
[17:49] <Zteam> nicomachus, I'm gonna check right now
[17:49] <simbaclaws> my idea, because it has some hardware fuse towards installing new software on it is that I can't seem to boot from a windows bootable usb which works on other computers
[17:50] <simbaclaws> so what I'm now trying to do, the system already has windows 8 installed on it and I want to install windows from within a live usb of ubuntu on the second hard disk, then I want to boot that hard disk and whipe the other disk
[17:51] <simbaclaws> so that if it fails I would have windows installed on the hard disk inside of the laptop part
[17:51] <simbaclaws> so... does anyone know how I can install windows 10 from within a live usb of ubuntu
[17:51] <Zteam> nicomachus, nothing interested found, but I'm not sure what to look for either
[17:51] <simbaclaws> it's a computer of a friend
[17:51] <nicomachus> simbaclaws: no. you need to load Windows onto the USB, not Ubuntu.
[17:51] <Jordan_U> simbaclaws: We can help you get Ubuntu booting via USB on the laptop, but this channel can't really help you with installing Windows. Try ##windows for that.
[17:52] <simbaclaws> I can't the hardware doesn't allow me to
[17:52] <Zteam> nicomachus, sudo dmesg | tail doesn't tell me anything interesting
[17:52] <simbaclaws> I can only boot a ubuntu usb
[17:52] <nicomachus> Zteam: paste it to paste.ubuntu.com and link here
[17:52] <simbaclaws> else I would get a windows boot manager failure telling me the usb is corrupt while it does start on another system
[17:53] <k1l_> simbaclaws: that really sounds like you need the help of the ##windows channel guys.
[17:53] <Zteam> nicomachus, nor does sudo dmesg | grep PS/2 or sudo dmesg | grep keyboard either
[17:53] <simbaclaws> actually all I have is ubuntu :P
[17:54] <Zteam> nicomachus, well, then I have to install hexchat and fighting with that keyboard issue yet again :-(
[17:54] <k1l_> simbaclaws: but ubuntu is not the issue here. your issue is the windows bootloader and how to get a windows usb
[17:54] <nicomachus> Zteam: why do you have to install hexchat?
[17:54] <Zteam> nicomachus, I'm using this irc client on a another computer
[17:55] <simbaclaws> my problem is that the hardware that has windows 8 installed doesn't allow for other windows usb's to install it's operating system on top of it. I can only boot ubuntu
[17:55] <simbaclaws> any windows usb doesn't boot
[17:55] <nicomachus> Zteam: just paste it on the system you're working on, then type the url into here. it'll be like 10 digits at the end of paste.ubuntu.com
[17:55] <simbaclaws> even though they work on other systems
[17:55] <Zteam> nicomachus, you are right I don't have too, my bad :-)
[17:55] <Zteam> nicomachus, I thinked wrong :p
[17:57] <simbaclaws> I'll go to the windows channel but I doubt they'll be able to help me out
[17:57] <simbaclaws> but ok
[17:57] <nicomachus> Zteam: or you can use pastebinit and skip the web browser part
[17:58] <nicomachus> simbaclaws: it sounds like you're trying to use ubuntu to hack around the problem instead of fixing the problem. but the hack-a-round probably won't even work
[18:00] <sveinse> I generally love Linux, but it can be a horrendous pain when something stops working. Like my BT mouse just has. /&%#&%" Gnome shell won't delete the device when I press delete
[18:00] <Zteam> nicomachus, yes, I know the pastebinit program really nice feature I have to say
[18:00] <branjoe> have you tried sudo
[18:01] <kuldeep> Hello, im looking for a ubuntu distribution that has matplotlib and numpy preinstalled.  (python packages)
[18:01] <kuldeep> *ubuntu flavour
[18:01] <branjoe> yum
[18:02] <Zteam> http://www.paste.ubuntu.com/23247722/
[18:02] <sveinse> kuldeep: Why does it need to be preinstalled?
[18:03] <Zteam> sorry wrong link here is the rig one : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23247722/
[18:03] <kuldeep> sveinse, i dont want to get into the headache of installing and making sure it work fine. im going for a introduction on python and electronics (STEM) to student
[18:04] <Zteam> nicomachus, here you go, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23247722/ but I just noted this is just the top of an ice mountain, there is several more issues, a none working apt for example
[18:05] <kuldeep> *an
[18:06] <kuldeep> sveinse, and most of them will be MS windows users. i will give away dvd as well after it has finished.
[18:06] <kuldeep> (actually all afaik)
[18:09] <jja2000> So I got past the vmlinuz error
[18:09] <jja2000> now
[18:09] <jja2000> next question
[18:09] <jja2000> It now says mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: invalid argument
[18:09] <jja2000> and then goes to the initramfs shell
[18:13] <daile> Hi there. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. After putting in a new motherboard, my install no longer boots. It goes to the grub rescue screen and declares "error: unknown filesystem". I have attempted to fix this by using boot-repair, but even it doesn't recognize my SSD's filesystem. Any help would be appreciated.
[18:13] <bp_> l
[18:15] <saf> Hello. I have a new laptop with a BCM43142 wireless adapter. Everything seems to work fine on xubuntu, only the wireless adapter gives some problems. Can someone help me with this?
[18:16] <deadshot> I have only 1 drive of 1000GB where my ubuntu is installed. I want to make 1 other drive from it. How to do it ?
[18:17] <saf> @deadshot: you could use gparted
[18:17] <deadshot> Can u explain ?
[18:17] <deadshot> what to do in gparted. I am newbie
[18:18] <k1l_> !bcm43xx | saf
[18:18] <saf> gparted is a tool to partition you hard disk. If you start gparted it will show you a graphical presentation of your hard disk
[18:19] <saf> @ubottu: thanks for the link. I tried it already. And even Google wasn't my best friend in this situation
[18:19] <k1l_> deadshot: load a live usb ubuntu. then use gparted to change the partition layout
[18:19] <deadshot> can't i do it on current installed ubuntu
[18:19] <deadshot> by installing gparted
[18:19] <deadshot> ?
[18:19] <Jordan_U> deadshot: First, just to get terminology straight, what you want to do is add another partition to your drive. It's only windows where partitions are called "drives", and it causes a lot of confusion. In the *NIX world a drive is a physical device which can contain one or more partitions.
[18:19] <geirha> you can't resize a partition that is in use, hence the need to boot a live cd
[18:19] <saf> yes it's possible, but I think a live usb will work quicker
[18:19] <k1l_> deadshot: you cant change the disk while you are using that disk
[18:20] <saf> oh my bad :)
[18:20] <deadshot> Ok thanks, i will go on live cd
[18:20] <deadshot> :)
[18:21] <saf> @k1l_: what do you mean by !bcm43xx?
[18:22] <k1l_> saf: its a command to let the bot (ubottu) display some information
[18:22] <saf> thank you!
[18:22] <saf> !bcm43xx
[18:23] <saf> ah, now I get that ubotto is a bot...first time IRC
[18:23] <k1l_> bcm43.. chips are known to make trouble. so look at what is exactly happening there
[18:23] <wheredidmyircset> OK, I upgraded to 16.04.01 and now all the title bars of my windows are gone. I'm using gnome-flashback. Any ideas?
[18:23]  * k1l_ is afk now but the channel will help you
[18:24] <saf> well, it is working but only at low speed (abg), not n
[18:24] <daile> Hi there. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. After putting in a new motherboard, my install no longer boots. It goes to the grub rescue screen and declares "error: unknown filesystem". I have attempted to fix this by using boot-repair, but even it doesn't recognize my SSD's filesystem. Any help would be appreciated.
[18:24] <saf> furthermore, sometimes it has trouble connecting to my home network after startup
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> k1l_  please don't leave now...
[18:32] <slaffe> updated to 16.04 from 14.04 when trying to start deluge-webui getting this error:
[18:32] <slaffe> [20:31:11]slaffe@scenics:/etc$ sudo start deluge
[18:32] <slaffe> start: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[18:33] <slaffe> What is causing this?
[18:33] <sveinse> My ubuntu 16.04 bluetooth has suddenly died. hcitool dev shows nothing, bluetoothctl and scan gives "Not ready" and dmesg complains about "Direct firmware load for brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e6.hcd failed with error -2". How can I fix this?
[18:33] <slaffe> loads of stuff broke when updateing from 14.04 -> 16.04..
[18:34] <sveinse> slaffe: Nope, this worked a week ago. I have been running 16.04 for at least three months with this working
[18:36] <slaffe> What do you mean by nope?
[18:36] <slaffe> I said loads of stuff broke on my server when I updated to latest version?
[18:36] <slaffe> Nope dosnt apply to that, because it did :O)
[18:37] <sveinse> slaffe: "nope" that your statement does not apply to my case. This wasn't broken by any upgrade
[18:37] <freelancerbob> .. ddrescue is running 2 hours cca, but seems no data are saved to output HDD, it is possible ?
[18:38] <slaffe> Well, worked right before the update, not after. What caused this if not the upgrade, then?
[18:38] <sveinse> slaffe: I think we're not talking about the same thing, are we?
[18:39] <monk> how can I tell if my grub loader will work without rebooting?
[18:39] <slaffe> sveinse we are not :)
[18:39] <sveinse> slaffe: good :P
[18:40] <slaffe> My problem is that i am getting this when trying to start deluged
[18:40] <slaffe> sudo -u www-data php occ maintenance:mode --on
[18:40] <slaffe> erm
[18:40] <slaffe> start: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[18:40] <sveinse> how do you start it?
[18:41] <slaffe> used to run service deluged-webui start
[18:42] <slaffe> noticed now that systemctl start <name> might work
[18:42] <slaffe> hmm
[18:43] <sruli> hello all, i need a file to belong to root but accessible by a particular user, how can i achieve this?
[18:44] <freelancerbob> it is normal ? ddrescue do not copy any data to output HDD ?
[18:44] <sveinse> sruli: chown root.user some_file; chmod 0660 some_file
[18:44] <sruli> sveinse: thanks, i just tried user:root seems to have done the trick
[18:45] <sveinse> sruli: The chmod all depends on the access rights root, the user and others need
[18:46] <sveinse> sruli: note the ordering of chown. root:user is different from user:root. It's the first name which owns the file
[18:46] <deadshot> I made another drive
[18:46] <deadshot> usign gparted
[18:46] <deadshot> and live boot
[18:47] <deadshot> but the new drive is showing 6 GB used
[18:47] <deadshot> why ?
[18:47] <OerHeks> deadshot, easy on the enter, please
[18:47] <deadshot> sorry
[18:47] <slaffe> how do I start a service after 16.04? sudo service <name> wont work no more?
[18:47] <slaffe> [20:47:11]slaffe@scenics:~$ sudo systemctl enable /etc/init/deluge.conf
[18:47] <slaffe> Failed to execute operation: Invalid argument
[18:47] <slaffe> [20:47:11]slaffe@scenics:~$
[18:48] <OerHeks> !paste
[18:48] <slaffe> how do I enable the config?
[18:48] <OerHeks> slaffe, how did you install deluge?
[18:49] <deadshot> kil_, Jordan_U ?
[18:49] <slaffe> OerHeks sudo apt-get install deluged deluged-webui
[18:50] <slaffe> had it working before update, now it wont start. so reinstalled it and still nothing
[18:50] <sruli> sveinse: i understand thanks, i think it only mattered who owns the dir as after i made that change all works even if the file is user:user. what i am trying to do is use letsencrypt without its webserver so i mounted the www dir from web server on my mail server using sshfs but couldent access the files there from wan, changing the dir to user:root seemed to solve it
[18:50] <OerHeks> systemctl status deluged ?
[18:50] <slaffe> ● deluged.service
[18:50] <slaffe> Loaded: not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)
[18:50] <slaffe> Active: inactive (dead)
[18:52] <slaffe> Whys that?
[18:52] <sruli> i have a problem booting my pc with latest kernel update 4.4.0-38 a soon as it hits the plymoth screen i have no keyboard input, i can only boot using previous kernel 3.16.0-77 (running 14.04)
[18:53] <deadshot> How to give permissions to a partition in ubuntu ?
[18:53] <slaffe> OerHeks?
[18:54] <sruli> deadshot: what type of permission? have you mounted the partition what filysys is it?
[18:54] <deadshot> ext4
[18:55] <deadshot> it is currently can only be controlled by root
[18:55] <sruli> deadshot: is it mounted?
[18:55] <deadshot> yes
[18:55] <sruli> deadshot: what is the path to it?
[18:56] <sruli> deadshot: sudo chown -R username:username /path/to/mounted
[18:56] <deadshot> '/media/deadshot/e278a..'
[18:56] <agentd> imran
[18:57] <agentd> cheki hii stuff
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> agentd  it works, we see you
[18:57] <monk> can someone help me with grub? http://paste2.org/m6cB1jJ1
[18:58] <imranK> net yangu iko down
[18:59] <imranK> I think i'm good now
[19:05] <Keydns> today is day 5. i am searching for a terminal program that is either a repository or a p2p network for sharing only text documents.
[19:05] <Keydns> thanks
[19:08] <nicomachus> Keydns: what kind of sharing are we talking about here? within an internal network, available publicly, what?
[19:09] <OerHeks> nicomachus, tomorrow day 6
[19:09] <nicomachus> lol
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> and on the 7th day, god took a rest
[19:09] <nicomachus> hard to get support when you only hang around for 2 mins
[19:10] <nicomachus> I really should turn joins & parts back on...
[19:10] <sruli> i have a problem booting my pc with latest kernel update 4.4.0-38 a soon as it hits the plymoth screen i have no keyboard input, i can only boot using previous kernel 3.16.0-77 (running 14.04)
[19:11] <OerHeks> sruli how come your kernel jumped from 3.16 to 4.4 ?
[19:11] <nicomachus> autoremoved too quickly?
[19:12] <ioria> do-release-upgrade from utopic-lts
[19:12] <sruli> OerHeks: not to sure, got some message about lts enablement stack and hit the update button
[19:12] <sruli> ioria: apt-get do-release-upgrade ?
[19:13] <ioria> sruli, youused the gui, from cli is that command
[19:13] <sruli> ioria: yes, but will that not upgrade me to 16.04?
[19:13] <ioria> sruli, yes, it did .... cat /etc/issue
[19:14] <sruli> ioria: Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS \n \l
[19:14] <ioria> sruli, no, it didn't
[19:14] <OerHeks> LTS eneblement stack while next LTS is out, why don't you just upgrade?
[19:15] <sruli> OerHeks: not ready on my main machine... dont have time to deal with stuff that will break atm
[19:15] <ioria> sruli, you just upgrade the kernel and xorg
[19:15] <ioria> *upgraded
[19:15] <slaffe> what is this?
[19:15] <slaffe> [19:15] <slaffe> Authentication is required to start 'deluge-web.service'.
[19:15] <slaffe> Multiple identities can be used for authentication:
[19:15] <slaffe> 1. ,,, (slaffe)
[19:15] <slaffe> 2. ,,, (slaffe)
[19:15] <slaffe> Choose identity to authenticate as (1-2):
[19:15] <nicomachus> !paste | slaffe
[19:16] <sruli> i promise myself to upgrade next week for the last few month... (i am not sure yet if i will do upgrade or reinstall...)
[19:16] <sruli> so how do i remove this kernel?
[19:16] <ioria> sruli, what kernel ?
[19:16] <nicomachus> sruli: 16.04 is pretty darn stable. what are you afraid of it breaking?
[19:17] <DK2> dpkg -l | grep image
[19:17] <DK2> then purge the kernel?
[19:17] <ioria> sruli, you're using 4.4  ... it's ok
[19:17] <sruli> nicomachus: exisiting applications i run, many might not have all required libs in 14.04
[19:18] <ioria> sruli, i have the same config 4.4 + 3.16  (that i don't use anymore)
[19:18] <sruli> DK2: what command do i use to purge it?
[19:19] <morg> For anyone using Guake terminal, is there a way to fix text being only one color? I've tried using different palettes in pref>appearance but it only changes the background and the color of ALL text.
[19:21] <slaffe> why does systemctl enable <file> not work? says Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory
[19:21] <slaffe> eventhough it is the right location
[19:24] <nacc> slaffe: please pastebin the exact command and output
[19:25] <traba> fbbbtb
[19:25] <slaffe> sec
[19:26] <DK2> why would you remove the 4.4 kernel tough?
[19:26] <DK2> do you still have the old one?
[19:26] <sruli> DK2: i have th eold one, problem with new one is no keyboard input when i get to the plymonth screen
[19:27] <slaffe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23248032/
[19:27] <traba> fbbbtbf bdfb
[19:27] <traba> ffdbbfdbrtbbebedb
[19:27] <DK2> apt-get remove "package" should remove it
[19:27] <traba> heewfrwfewff
[19:28] <nacc> slaffe: you are saying 'enable' on deluge-web.service but the file is deluged-web.service
[19:28] <OerHeks> d-deamon
[19:28] <OerHeks> good find, nacc
[19:30] <ioria> !info deluge-web
[19:30] <daile> What is the default filesystem for the /boot partition? My system doesn't recognize it as ext2, ext3, or ext4.
[19:30] <ioria> !info deluged
[19:31] <Fendaris> Hi, I can access my windows disk through the file explorer, but I cannot select the path to the windows disk in jabref. Can I write it as a path somehow? /500gbVlume/etc/
[19:31] <Fendaris> ?
[19:32] <Fendaris> i can only select "/" as a path in jabref
[19:32] <ioria> slaffe, which pkg did you install exactly ?
[19:35] <Keydns> i am looking for a program for transffering text files via p2p or some kind of database
[19:36] <sruli> Keydns: private or public?
[19:36] <Keydns> either
[19:36] <sruli> Keydns: do you need it for private use or public access?
[19:36] <Keydns> public
[19:37] <romaroma> what about torrent?
[19:37] <Keydns> i am against them
[19:37] <romaroma> it will solve your probler, by the way
[19:37] <romaroma> what is wrong with it?
[19:37] <sruli> Keydns: when you need the services of the thief take him down from the gallows!
[19:37] <Keydns> i feel unsecure about it
[19:38] <Keydns> sruli i need a private one as well my dad says
[19:38] <Fendaris> i figured out that i m looking for something like /dev/sbd4, but I still cant access it via jabref. it s already mounted
[19:38] <romaroma> will, you need a private tool, I suppose)
[19:38] <romaroma> *well
[19:39] <Keydns> i would use some php correct?
[19:39] <Fendaris> solved it
[19:40] <Keydns> ko thanks bye
[19:40] <nacc> sruli: afaict, Keydns is a troll
[19:40] <nacc> comes on, asks the same question, leaves
[19:40] <OerHeks> kiddos
[19:40] <nacc> no context, no actual intention of doing something
[19:41] <romaroma> nacc, thanks
[19:41] <sruli> thanks
[19:41] <nacc> "transffering text files via p2p or some kind of database" is a trollish question
[19:41] <nacc> don't even understand what it means
[19:41] <nacc> anyways ... :)
[19:42] <romaroma> just a nooby question)
[19:49] <lleweldyn> exit
[19:54] <afidegnum> hello, anyone sucessfully install adobe flash player, into opera and google chrome ? i proceeded via apt but no sucess
[19:54] <OerHeks> chrome got flashplayer already.
[19:54] <afidegnum> what of Opera?
[19:55] <romaroma> visit something like adome.com/flash (dont remember exactly), it will suggest you to install flash.
[19:55] <Surendil> afidegnum, chrome has flashplayer already and for opera or firefox, install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:55] <matejko> but soon they will stop supporting flash I heard
[19:55] <OerHeks> maybe opera wants pepperflash, that downloads chrome and rips the flashplayer. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[19:56] <afidegnum> let me try that again
[19:57] <OerHeks> * and restart your opera browser, ofcourse
[19:57] <afidegnum> :)
[19:57] <matejko> is that me or is it turning the screen off on my laptop like after 2 minutes of inactivity? Also the locked user screen is different after updates that came like week ago? ubuntu 16.04
[19:58] <matejko> 15 seconds and turning off screen
[19:58] <matejko> when you lock user
[19:59] <matejko> is there any way to change that?
[20:00] <OerHeks> matejko, depends what desktop, sounds like monitor or energy settings to me
[20:01] <Potatoboi> i need help with booting
[20:01] <Potatoboi> ubuntu is stuck forever at the boot screen since i installed gnome shell
[20:01] <Potatoboi> and selected gdm at the x screen that popped
[20:02] <matejko> gnome
[20:03] <Potatoboi> matjko ?
[20:03] <matejko> Potatoboi happened to me... clean install helped
[20:03] <Potatoboi> yep
[20:03] <Potatoboi> but i really dont want to wipe my entire system
[20:03] <Potatoboi> i just want to reinstall lightdm
[20:03] <Potatoboi> and fix it
[20:04] <Potatoboi> i am logged on a livecd
[20:04] <matejko> sorry, Im noob user :/
[20:05] <Jordan_U> Potatoboi: Chroot into your system and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" and select lightdm when asked what display manager to use.
[20:05] <NeXTSUN> a
[20:06] <NeXTSUN> how do you update ssh packages?
[20:06] <Potatoboi> Jordan_U alright
[20:06] <curlyears> heigh hough
[20:06] <Jordan_U> Potatoboi: If you need help chrooting in feel free to ask.
[20:06] <Potatoboi> it is asking to select either to select lightdm or gdm3
[20:06] <Potatoboi> i`m chrooted in my system already
[20:07] <Potatoboi> selected lightdm
[20:07] <Jordan_U> Potatoboi: Choose lightdm. That should at least get you a working system, and we can figure out how to get GDM3 working properly after that if you want.
[20:07] <Potatoboi> alright
[20:07] <Potatoboi> will reboot
[20:08] <curlyears> something really strange is happening.  I am running 16.04.1 vanilla insta;;.  All of a sudden, my mouse and keyboard don't work anymore.  I can't get on to the system at ALL with the installed version.  So IO am on DVDBoot, trying to resolve this.  Even under DVDBoot, after somewhere between 1 and 10 minutes, the keyboard and mouse lockup.  What t
[20:08] <curlyears> he holy &(^%^$%&(^$&^ id going on?
[20:10] <nacc> curlyears: is it a laptop or desktop? if the former does it have an internal keyboard that does work?
[20:10] <PotatoBoi> Jordan_U
[20:10] <PotatoBoi> it worked
[20:11] <PotatoBoi> i'm currently on my system now
[20:11] <offlim> is anyone familiar with mongoDB data at rest?
[20:12] <Jordan_U> curlyears: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg", preferably after the keyboard or mouse has stopped working. (You probably want to install openssh-server so you can still interact with the machine without a keyboard or mouse, using another computer / phone).
[20:12] <curlyears> The problem started when I was creating a "Firefox account" as per a push from mozilla.   I clicked into Thunderbiird to cheeck for the verification email, and Thunderbord came up, and then I couldn't do anything,.  I rebooted, and tried to go to  the ubuntu support pages, and it died again.  It has also died several times under Live Bott
[20:12] <curlyears> Jordan_U:  No can do.  I have no access to a second computer, and I don't use a smartphone.
[20:13] <curlyears> Oh, byw, the moouse isn't toally dead.  When I move it, the cursor moves, it just won't accept any clicks
[20:13] <curlyears> btw, too
[20:15] <nacc> curlyears: usb devices?
[20:16] <curlyears> when you're running under LiveBoot, who are you logged in as, defauklt, and how do you find the password fopr that login, if you wanty to login remote like Jordan_U  just suggested to me?
[20:16] <curlyears> nacc:  my keyboard and mouse are USB, if that's what you're asking?
[20:16] <nacc> curlyears: yeah, didn't you report some issues with this before?
[20:16] <nacc> i'm seeing it in my irc logs :)
[20:17] <k1l_> curlyears: the live user is ubuntu, the password is blank. but when you want to remote login to your system then you need the user and password of that system
[20:17] <curlyears> nacc:  one time a USB port just stopped working completely.  That one USB port is still totally dead
[20:17] <nacc> curlyears: how do you know there aren't more hw faults?
[20:17] <Jordan_U> curlyears: OK. Please pastebin the /var/log/syslog from the installed system, and in addition please run "dmesg --follow > /mnt/dmesg.log" (where /mnt/dmesg.log is any path that you will persist and you can then pastebin at next boot).
[20:18] <curlyears> k1l_:  so how can I do a emote login to view dmesg?
[20:18] <Jordan_U> s/you will persist/will persist/
[20:18] <OerHeks> curlyears, same mobo which gave you so much hdd and usb troubles?
[20:18] <nacc> curlyears: i thought ##hardware's recommendation was to replace the PS and maybe mobo?
[20:18] <k1l_> curlyears: mount the hdd from that system and look into /var/log/ there
[20:18] <curlyears> how do you creat a pathlist that will persist through a reboot?
[20:19] <nacc> curlyears: pathlist?
[20:19] <Jordan_U> curlyears: Mount either your internal drive or a USB drive and provide a path that's within that mount.
[20:19] <curlyears> nacc:  I did replace the PSU, and the computer has been runnning without any faults for several months now
[20:19] <de-facto> you can watch the voltage levels of your psu with lm-sensors or in bios
[20:20] <Jordan_U> curlyears: I just mean that you can't simply do "dmesg --follow ~/Desktop/notgonnapersist.log" because that will only save to RAM and be gone when you reboot.
[20:20] <grumpy> hi am getting page falut for amd on start anyone know how to fix this
[20:20] <curlyears> lm-sensorts not found
[20:21] <matejko> is there any way to printscreen lockscreen without running VM?
[20:21] <elisa87> this might sound funny but if my file has 5000 lines is there a bash method to copy what's inside my file again inside my file until it is 8GB?
[20:21] <c^> matejko, http://www.howtogeek.com/113267/how-to-take-screenshots-of-the-windows-logon-screen-2-geeky-tricks/
[20:22] <c^> oops, windows link
[20:22] <Anthaas> I have found an old monitor, and am able to plug it in, however I am getting "Signal Over Range" on it, and then the screen turns off.
[20:22] <c^> https://itsfoss.com/screenshot-login-screen-ubuntu-linux/ matejko
[20:23] <c^> Anthaas, incompatible refresh rate
[20:23] <Anthaas> c^ any possible solution, besides new monitor?
[20:24] <matejko> thx :)
[20:24] <c^> Anthaas, which bootloader?
[20:24] <c^> Grub?
[20:24] <curlyears> Antaas:  do you know what SORT of monitor it is? (EGA< VGA< SVGA)?
[20:25] <Anthaas> c^ Uhh, yeah, standard. This is my only OS on this machine
[20:25] <Anthaas> VGA
[20:25] <c^> Go to the GRUB options tab
[20:25] <c^> , tick the out-of-range option
[20:25] <c^> , apply,
[20:25] <c^> reboot
[20:25] <Anthaas> "Grub options tab"?
[20:25] <curlyears> this is very disheartening.  I am just about to start learning to use thew software to use m y 3Dprinter, and once again, my computer develops some oddball problem no one understands
[20:25] <c^> Not sure, just pulled it from askubuntu
[20:25] <c^> Maybe the grub menu on boot?
[20:26] <c^> Or in settings somewhere
[20:26] <c^> Anthaas source: http://askubuntu.com/questions/189566/input-signal-out-of-range-change-settings-to-1600-x-900
[20:26] <c^> the end suggests installing gpu drivers again
[20:27] <Anthaas> Probably not worth the hassle.
[20:27] <Anthaas> I have two modern monitors which work perfectly fine, and this ancient one that doesn't.
[20:27] <c^> I'd agree
[20:28] <c^> I hate using mismatching monitors personally
[20:30] <offlim> is anyone familiar with mongoDB encryption at rest?
[20:31] <curlyears> damn it, from L:iveBoot, when I try to mount /dev/sda (my 250GB SSD) it says /dev/sda or <my mount point> is busy.  I had just created the moutnpoint as /to,
[20:32] <Jordan_U> curlyears: You don't mount a drive like /dev/sda, you figure out what partition on the drive (sda1, sda2, etc) you actually want to mount, and mount that.
[20:32] <curlyears> I have an older 17" LCD monitor that I am not using, but I am holding on to it, to use with my Raspberry Pi 3, once I get that up and running
[20:32] <curlyears> thanks Jordan_U
[20:33] <Jordan_U> curlyears: You're welcome.
[20:35] <curlyears> what the hell does this mean?  I founf it in my dmeag (three times, one right after thee other):   usb 5-1: current rate 0 is different from the runtime rate 44100
[20:36] <curlyears> when I did sudo mount /dev/sda2 /tom   it recommended I look for a problem under dmesgm, which is when I found that USB error
[20:36] <curlyears> also mount says size or type is wrong  Do I need to go do a man mount?
[20:36] <nacc> curlyears: i beleive that is a sound message
[20:37] <curlyears> \nacc:  interesting.  I just plugged some USB speakers in yesterday.  They are working.  A buddy over in #reprap sent them to me.
[20:38] <curlyears> nacc:  but why would the error be logged three times, one immediatel;y after the other?
[20:38] <nacc> curlyears: i don't know
[20:38] <curlyears> samwe tinmestamp on all three
[20:39] <curlyears> weird.  Ah, well, as much of a headache as all this is, I'd still rather do this than submit to Microsoft Tyrrany
[20:43] <curlyears> OK...dmesg has 6 of these, one after the other:   EXT4-fs (sda2): unable to read superblock
[20:43] <ahn0st> linux spoof mac address reverts back to default, need help
[20:43] <k1l_> curlyears: is that the dmesg from the internal disk? or from the usb live system?
[20:45] <Jordan_U> curlyears: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" so that we can help you run the correct mount command. Also note that this does appear to be a hardware problem. I'm just hoping that the output of dmesg will give some insight into how your hardware is failing.
[20:46] <k1l_> curlyears: and do i understand right, that you plugged in usb speakers and since then have issues with usb mouse and keyboard?
[20:47] <curlyears> k1l-:   well, sortof.  I plugged the USB speakers in a day or so ago.   Everything worked fine until this morning.
[20:48] <Keydns> i am looking for a program for transffering text files via p2p or some kind of database publically and privately
[20:49] <nacc> Keydns: you have been provided help on this a few times in the channel. You need to stay and listen to the responses.
[20:49] <Keydns> i was just going to reboot
[20:50] <nacc> Keydns: then reboot and *then* ask your question
[20:50] <nacc> it makes no sense to ask and then leave over and over
[20:50] <Keydns> ok i understand
[20:50] <Keydns> i shall return shortly
[20:50] <ppf> lol
[20:51] <curlyears> rats.  I'm trying to apt-get install pastebinit, and it has been sitting at 0% for two minutes now...
[20:51] <curlyears> ;p
[20:52] <curlyears> rats.  I'm trying to apt-get install pastebinit, and it has been sitting at 0% for two minutes now...
[20:52] <curlyears> rats.  I'm trying to apt-get install pastebinit, and it has been sitting at 0% for two minutes now...
[20:52] <curlyears> ;
[20:52] <curlyears> :9
[20:53] <k1l_> curlyears: installing on a live system could be an issue. just attach "| nc termbin.com 9999" to the command to pastebin stuff
[20:56] <Keydns> hi, anyone know the answer to my question?
[20:58] <curlyears> damn.
[20:58] <Surendil> Keydns, is ftp an option?
[20:58] <Keydns> file transfer protocol?
[20:59] <Surendil> Keydns, yeap, ftp-server
[20:59] <Keydns> if you can access it fromm macc and windwos theen yes
[20:59] <k1l_> Keydns: what about dropbox, googledrive, nextcloud or such?
[20:59] <Keydns> looking for something terminal based on the ubuntu side
[20:59] <sruli> Keydns: dropbox has a cli
[21:00] <curlyears> when I try to run sudo blkinit I get:  blkinit not found,  then on the next line, it prompts to try using netcat, which requires all sorts of argumebts, and says it's a bsd tool
[21:00] <k1l_> Keydns: a webserver, sftp server. there are a lot of ways to share stuff
[21:01] <Keydns> what is php?
[21:01] <k1l_> curlyears: its not blkinit
[21:01] <k1l_> curlyears: sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:03] <Keydns> can i use php to transfer files using putty on the other computer over the internet?
[21:04] <k1l_> php using putty? that doesnt sound right.
[21:04] <nacc> !php | ubottu
[21:04] <Keydns> o, it was ssh
[21:04] <Keydns> k1l_
[21:04] <k1l_> Keydns: if you control both sides then just use "scp" or "sftp". both come with the ssh server
[21:04] <nacc> Keydns: i feel like you're asking very strange questions that seem unrelated to each other
[21:05] <Keydns> i must want to know a lot of ddifferent things
[21:05] <nacc> Keydns: perhaps start over with what specifically you are trying to achieve (and not how you think you should achieve it)
[21:05] <curlyears> now I can't copy/paste from term to here.  I highlight the desired text, roght click the mouse, then select copy.  Switch to here, place the cursor in the input box, and right click, then select paste, and noting happens
[21:05] <nacc> Keydns: well, this is a support channel, not a discussion channel
[21:06] <Keydns> well i have two objectives on my new computer right now.. downloading a lot of text files to read and organize.. and to shre files between some of my dad, his friends and my brother
[21:06] <k1l_> Keydns: we focus on specific technical ubuntu issues in this channel. if you need the world explained better join the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[21:06] <curlyears> http://termbin.com/taxr
[21:06] <curlyears> I hand copied that
[21:06] <Keydns> is there a like ubuntu packages channel?
[21:10] <curlyears> \?
[21:11] <ppf> Keydns: no
[21:11] <ppf> maybe take a look at btsync or syncthing
[21:12] <ppf> curlyears: try your middle mouse button, it'll change your life ;)
[21:13] <curlyears> ppf:  when I click the middle mouse button (the scroll wheel) Firefox pops up a box asking me if I really want to leave this page
[21:14] <ppf> well you need to click on something that accepts input
[21:15] <curlyears> if I come into any more money, I am scrapping this damned m otherboard and gtting a newer, better one.  This thing has cost me so muych time and energy, I hate it
[21:15] <ppf> what's the issue?
[21:15] <curlyears> ppf:  for copy/paste, that ios usually the right mouse bvutton, which should pop up a menu with various choices, including copy and paste
[21:16] <matejko> guys, I have an issue (maybe) .. if I click on link on this chat, it open firefox new window with my homepage... is it bug or feature?
[21:16] <matejko> it wont open that link
[21:16] <RLShiftyDoggit> what chat client are you using
[21:16] <matejko> HexChat
[21:16] <curlyears> ppf:   I need to mount a partition from my system, SSD, so I can have certain system commands 9output copies of certain logs, since I am under Live Boot, and  need to pass thoswe logs to k1l- and others
[21:17] <RLShiftyDoggit> that shouldnt be happening
[21:17] <k1l_> matejko: hmm, which ubuntu? which desktop?
[21:17] <RLShiftyDoggit> i use hexchat
[21:17] <curlyears> feature
[21:17] <matejko> 16.04 64bit gnome?
[21:17] <ppf> curlyears: on linux DEs there are two clipboards (well, three, but noone uses the third). PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD. CLIPBOARD is what you feed with right click+copy, ctrl+c and the like.
[21:18] <k1l_> matejko: on the menu->settings -> command for urls. what is the command there?
[21:18] <curlyears> ppf:   oooooookayyyyyyy
[21:18] <ppf> and whatever you highlight with your mouse goes into PRIMARY, and you can paste it with a middle mouse click
[21:18]  * RLShiftyDoggit laughs Sparkalyballs
[21:19] <matejko> "Open Link in a new Firefox Window    !firefox -new-window %s "
[21:19] <ppf> now, what's the problem with your mount?
[21:19] <k1l_> matejko: that is correct. so it seems like its a firefox issue
[21:20] <Jakey3> how would i switch off a desktop screen in a cron job
[21:20] <Jakey3> ?
[21:20] <curlyears> ppf:  I see.  I wonder why all of a suddent, I am having to paste with center button clikc as opposed to the right click I have been using for literally years?
[21:20] <ppf> because it will change your life ;)
[21:20] <curlyears> Jakey3: look up it's process number in ps -alx, then kill -9 <process number>
[21:20] <matejko> k1l_: yeah it might be.. I manually installed firefox 50 (dont know how) but it has lot of bugs so I purged it and installed canonical firefox49 and I think the paths of firefox50 is still there
[21:21] <k1l_> curlyears: ubuntu got 2 different clipboards. seems like you copied it to the middle-mouse-clipboard. or your irc client ony accepts that clipboard
[21:21] <k1l_> matejko: uh, yeah, that is some important info
[21:21] <ppf> Jakey3: maybe with xscreensaver?
[21:22] <curlyears> k1l-:  yeah, I get the two clipboard things, but right clicking is what I was using, then in the middle of tyhis IRC session, ity cvhanged, without any input from me.  How?
[21:22] <matejko> lol, is there any way to fix it? when I type whereis firefox in terminal it give me this: firefox: /usr/bin/firefox /usr/lib/firefox /etc/firefox /usr/share/man/man1/firefox.1.gz is that correct?
[21:22] <k1l_> Jakey3: use xset
[21:22] <k1l_> curlyears: i really dont know what you are doing to your systems all the time, really.
[21:23] <Jakey3> k1l_, does xset need to run as sudo
[21:23] <curlyears> Jakey3:  I can tell you this.  Do what ANYONE other than me tells you to do, because they all know infinitely more than i do
[21:23] <ppf> Jakey3: no
[21:23] <Jakey3> so it would simply run in a cron job
[21:24] <Scythe> Ya quelqun ?
[21:24] <curlyears> k1l-:  I am sitting here in IRC, or reading and responding to email, almost SALL the time (ropughly 6-78 hours a day.  Once I gget the last bit of hardware I need for my 3D printer, I'll likely be doing that all day instead=
[21:24] <ppf> Jakey3: i have to ask, why exactly do you need to turn off your screen in a cronjob?
[21:24] <curlyears> 6-8
[21:24] <ppf> curlyears: what's the actual problem you're trying to solve?
[21:24] <Jakey3> its a screen connect to a raspberry pi in a public location
[21:24] <Scythe> is there someone here ?
[21:24] <ppf> why not run screensaver
[21:25] <Jakey3> so at 22.00 we want to switch off the screen
[21:25] <Jakey3> to conserve energy
[21:25] <ppf> physically? or send it to standby?
[21:25] <Jakey3> stanby
[21:25] <matejko> k1l: is there any way to fix it?
[21:25] <ppf> nontheless, try xset or xscreensaver
[21:26] <Jakey3> xset can go directly in the cron
[21:26] <Jakey3> ?
[21:26] <k1l_> matejko: can you show a "which firefox | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:26] <ppf> sure
[21:27] <matejko> k1l_: http://termbin.com/9w4u
[21:27] <curlyears> ppf:  all of a suddent, lst night, my system started dumping me into a situation where it would accept no input from either the mouse or thwe terminal.  Rebooting brought it back, but after 1 to 19 minnutes or so of operation, it would do it again.  So I am booted up in Live DVD, trying to find a solution to that, and running into all sorts of weir
[21:27] <matejko> k1l_: http://termbin.com/rmio
[21:27] <curlyears> d issues now.  Someone on here asked me to save some information  from a few log files, and pastebin them, but to do that, I have to knnow what the mount point for a workable parition on my SSD is.  And the comans for tyhat aren't working, at least, not for me.  I type them (or copy/paste them) and they claim "<file> not available, or <Kfile> nnot
[21:27] <curlyears> found
[21:27] <k1l_> matejko: "ls -al /usr/bin/firefox | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:28] <curlyears> the mouse moves the cursor, but no button clicks are accepted, and n o response from the keyboard at all
[21:28] <Rey-Hool> hello
[21:28] <matejko> k1l_: directory or file is missing
[21:28] <curlyears> the LED in the mouse stays lit, so it isn't a power issue
[21:28] <ppf> curlyears: you sure your usb controller is alright?
[21:28] <Queenslayer> How's Ubuntu holding up?
[21:29] <ppf> tried a different keyboard?
[21:29] <k1l_> matejko: sudo apt purge firefox. then sudo apt install firefox
[21:29] <Queenslayer> Anything new to tempt me away from Mint?
[21:29] <ppf> you said something about a usb error message before
[21:29] <compdoc> curlyears, you can use the disk uility to mount the main partition
[21:29] <matejko> k1l_: sorry I copied it with " "
[21:29] <matejko> k1l_: http://termbin.com/w2k9
[21:29] <ppf> so i strongly suspect its botched
[21:30] <ppf> or do the inputs work on the live system?
[21:31] <ppf> Queenslayer: how is mint not ubuntu?
[21:31] <k1l_> matejko: could be worth renaming ".mozilla/firefox" to ".mozilla/firefox_old" and then restart firefox
[21:31] <matejko> k1l_: ok, I will try that, thx
[21:31] <k1l_> Queenslayer: its your choice which distro you use.
[21:31] <ppf> curlyears: if the inputs are out in the live system as well then it's probably a hardware issue
[21:32] <ppf> probably not much we can do then
[21:32] <Queenslayer> ppf: good question
[21:32] <Queenslayer> Better standard interface
[21:32] <ppf> you meen the DE/the WM?
[21:33] <OerHeks> mint has its own issues.
[21:33] <ppf> curlyears: one thing that helped me in the past with a flakey usb controller (which wasn't a hardware defect but actually a kernel problem):
[21:33] <ppf> disconnect the power for 10 minutes
[21:33] <k1l_> Queenslayer: ubuntu offers mate and cinnamon besides a lot of other desktops in their repos. there are even preinstalled isos for mate.
[21:34] <Queenslayer> k1l_: never checked it out
[21:34] <Queenslayer> I like the way Mint have packaged their OS
[21:34] <th0r> and there it is. The troll succeeds and for the next fifteen minutes the channnel is just noise
[21:35] <k1l_> Queenslayer: ok. if you dont have a technical ubuntu support issue then please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support.
[21:36] <curlyears> \ppf:  how do I determine that?  There is a new message in syslog, which nacc tells me is audio rtelated, complaining about ppf:  OK, I'lll try that.  Hope it works,. because Live Booting is really SLOW
[21:37] <matejko> k1l_: didnt work
[21:37] <matejko> k1l_: still opening homepage instead of link
[21:37] <curlyears> not syslog, dmesg, but it was in my last boot, and dmesg says nothing new has  been logged yet
[21:38] <k1l_> matejko: strange. renaming that folder would have erased all user settings
[21:38] <curlyears> matejko:  what is the .link?  paste it in here
[21:38] <k1l_> matejko: do you have some special network setup? like proxy or vpn?
[21:39] <tuxon> :v
[21:39] <matejko> k1l_: it did and I dint do backup.. nvm
[21:40] <matejko> curlyears: all links posted to this chat.. for example: http://termbin.com/9w4u
[21:40] <OerHeks> make sure firefox itself does not claim to be standard browser
[21:41] <curlyears> matejko:  well, that one does obnly go to a home page directory, but all the others that have been posted in the past hour work for me
[21:41] <OerHeks> + maybe gnome needs a logout/login to take effect
[21:42] <matejko> curlyears: even https://www.google.com wont open me a google
[21:42] <matejko> I will try reboot
[21:42] <matejko> brb
[21:42] <k1l_> matejko: do you use any sort of proxy or vpn?
[21:44] <curlyears> yeah, it works for me, so you definitely have a problem.   I've had to create a non-root user account and grant all privileges, but that still doesn't work. I can only connect to MySQL using 'mysql' command
[21:58] <OerHeks> skinux, well .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#MySQL_5.7
[21:58] <ppf> cesm: what's in /etc/lightdm?
[21:59] <darkdrgn2k> hi all
[21:59] <matejko> hi
[21:59] <darkdrgn2k> so im running cinnamon WM but somethign is off. for example my MIN MAX AND CLOSE buttons are little dots
[21:59] <cesm> ppf: at the moment just this:
[21:59] <ppf> matejko: what did you do to your firefox? built in from source?
[21:59] <darkdrgn2k> what am i missing
[21:59] <cesm> /etc/lightdm/lightdm-webkit-greeter.conf
[21:59] <cesm> /etc/lightdm/users.conf
[22:00] <cesm> yy
[22:00] <ppf> how does HexChat launch it?
[22:00] <OerHeks> darkdrgn2k, the obvious: do you run a theme on top of that?
[22:00] <matejko> ppf: dont understand the question
[22:00] <darkdrgn2k> no stock install
[22:00] <darkdrgn2k> im wondering if im missing some packages..
[22:01] <matejko> ppf: in settings - URL something: "Open Link in a new Firefox Window: !firefox -new-window %s"
[22:01] <OerHeks> sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt full-upgrade
[22:02] <matejko> ppf: URL handlers
[22:02] <cesm> why are they not able to write some documentation about such a beast of thing which claims to save the world and does everything better than all others
[22:02] <ppf> matejko: does new-window take arguments?
[22:02] <ppf> cesm: because usually it just works
[22:03] <matejko> ppf: dont know
[22:03] <ppf> launch it on the terminal
[22:03] <cesm> you mean lightdm?
[22:03] <ppf> cesm: did you try choosing the session in lightdm?
[22:03] <ppf> cesm: no that was for matejko
[22:03] <cesm> i get no option to chose that
[22:04] <ppf> i mean on the login screen
[22:04] <ppf> you can click the circle/ubuntu icon next to the username (i think that's where it is)
[22:04] <cesm> not for me
[22:05] <ppf> anywhere else on the screen
[22:05] <matejko> ppf: "firefox -new-window" opens new window if you were asking about that
[22:05] <ppf> for some guy yesterday it was in the top bar i think?
[22:05] <ppf> matejko: i meant with an url
[22:05] <ppf> *a
[22:06] <matejko> ppf: yep it is opening
[22:06] <matejko> ppf: a page
[22:06] <cesm> just no fucking documentation
[22:06] <cesm> these folks are a joke
[22:06] <stan_man_can> if I have a cronjob that runs and i need other users on the system to be able to make changse
[22:06] <cesm> will uninstall this shit now
[22:06] <stan_man_can> where should I store the files?
[22:06] <ppf> stan_man_can: /etc/cron.d probably
[22:07] <ppf> but beware, that's an enormous security risk
[22:07] <stan_man_can> ppf, a better place would be where?
[22:07] <stan_man_can> it's a series of PHP scripts that are scheduled
[22:07] <Surendil> stan_man_can, actually, each user could have their own contrab file with: crontab -e
[22:07] <ppf> might be better to put a launcher script in /etc/cron.d that drops privileges, and then launches the editable script
[22:08] <stan_man_can> Surendil, this is one batch of files though that everyone needs to edit
[22:08] <stan_man_can> the scheduling is fine
[22:08] <jarlath> What's an alternative to Skype for calling landlines from Ubuntu? Ekiga has pretty bad reviews in the software center.
[22:08] <stan_man_can> just not sure of where i should physically put the files
[22:08] <ppf> Surendil: not if they need to synchronize them
[22:08] <stan_man_can> it's not a huge collaboration either it's just someone needs to modify them every now and then
[22:08] <stan_man_can> right now they're in my home dir but that doesn't really work for everyone else
[22:08] <ppf> stan_man_can: in case of doupt, put things in /opt :)
[22:08] <stan_man_can> although I guess i could chmod 777 the directory in my home and symlink it to their homes?
[22:09] <matejko> how to remove directory in terminal?
[22:09] <darkdrgn2k> rm -rf DIRECTORYU
[22:09] <\9> matejko: rmdir, if it's empty
[22:09] <stan_man_can> matrm -rf
[22:09] <curlyears> stan_man:  I would build the project such that it only allows specific user numbes to make changes to the database or code.  Keep the allowed user numbers in an encrypted file, and write a small app to read, write and edit that fiel, that onlly YOUO can use.\
[22:09] <ppf> matejko: use with caution
[22:10] <\9> matejko: rm -rf, if it's not (very dangerous)
[22:10] <matejko> thx
[22:10] <stan_man_can> curlyears, that's a joke right? sarcasm is hard to see
[22:10] <curlyears> stan_man_can:   why would I joke about that?  I was serious
[22:10] <stan_man_can> matejko, but for real rm -rf is super dangerous so please be super careful, once you delete it's gone
[22:10] <curlyears> it's a minor programming task, at most
[22:11] <stan_man_can> the question is literally
[22:11] <stan_man_can> "where should i keep a file that everyone needs to be able to edit"
[22:11] <matejko> https://www.google.com
[22:11] <stan_man_can> not, how should I implement a custom ACL or anything
[22:12] <OerHeks> There is a funny folder called /opt/
[22:12] <matejko> so I purged firefox, removed every directory that was in "whereis firefox" installed firefox again and it still doesnt open a link from HexChat
[22:12] <curlyears> stan_man_can:  in a secure locatinoibn the file system, oprotected by what I described to you earlier.  That is a semi-secure setup, allowuing the opeople who need to to access it, without making it available to any punk whohappens to find their way into your system.  SECURITY
[22:12] <skinux> The only thing that page tells me is that blank passwords no longer work. I'm not using a blank password.
[22:12] <Tex_Nick> OerHeks: lol
[22:12] <\9> "keep allowed user numbers in an encrypted file"
[22:12] <OerHeks> skinux, no, you missed the part:  Some configuration directives have been changed or deprecated
[22:12] <\9> it's called user groups
[22:13] <curlyears> stan_man_can: you obviously have no appreciation of basic system security measures
[22:13] <stan_man_can> obviously not
[22:13] <stan_man_can> i think i'm just going to sudo chmod -R 777 / to make life easier
[22:13] <OerHeks> skinux, without proper errorlog it is guessing
[22:14] <curlyears> well, yeah, you could use groups.  That would be an implied application of my desription, I just haven't  had to administer a publicly available system in so long I forgot about groups.  I am tghe ONLY user of my ysstem
[22:14] <k1l_> stan_man_can: dont do that
[22:14] <curlyears> stan_man_can: pardon my directness, but THAT is sheer stupidity
[22:14] <th0r> stan_man_can, put it all by itself on a usb drive on a network server everyone can access
[22:15] <\9> i have this slight feeling that he was sarcastics
[22:15] <stan_man_can> \9 +1
[22:15] <curlyears> sarcasm not allowed on this channel, go awsay    :p
[22:15] <th0r> no....seriously...everyone can map that folder to their home directory, and then access the file as needed
[22:16] <stan_man_can> not sure it would jive with IT if i hand them a flash drive and tell them to go plug it into one of the racks in our datacenter
[22:16] <curlyears> seriously, if you make it thaty simple, what happens if two people are trying to update and change the code at the same time?  You need a checkin and checkout system to protecct against race conditions between users
[22:17] <stan_man_can> that will never happen
[22:17] <th0r> curlyears, what happens if he puts it in the normal folder structure and two people try to access it at the same time? At least on a samba server it is 'removed' from the OS
[22:17] <curlyears> how can you KNOW that, stan_man_can?
[22:18] <stan_man_can> well
[22:18] <\9> curlyears: that sounds incredibly unrealistic
[22:18] <stan_man_can> the file gets updated randomly once, maybe twice a year
[22:18] <\9> assuming that these users aren't running I/O-intensive jobs
[22:18] <stan_man_can> there's only 3 of us who have access to the server and we all work on the same team
[22:18] <curlyears> fine.  risk your program and related data.  Not my lookout
[22:19] <stan_man_can> the only reason we all need access is because more often than not we only have one user available to update it at a time
[22:19] <stan_man_can> i know
[22:20] <\9> curlyears: it's somewhat more likely that an asteroid will hit earth during the next second and wipe out all life, than a I/O race condition to happen in a simple group share scenario
[22:20] <stan_man_can> \9 thank you
[22:21] <stan_man_can> i'm all for doing things properly but there's a time and place for everything
[22:21] <interf> OK, I just updated to Xenial (from Trusty). This came with a new version of Totem, with a new interface.  Is there a way to get it back?
[22:21] <th0r> stan_man_can, is there a reason you don't just create a three member group and give the group write permission?
[22:22] <stan_man_can> th0r, right now it's in my home directory
[22:22] <stan_man_can> literally all i needed to know was where on the filesystem to move the folder
[22:22] <stan_man_can> just not super familiar on that stuff
[22:22] <stan_man_can> i mean sure you can dump it anywhere but i figured i'd let you guys point me to the right place
[22:22] <interf> also the player controls literally never disappear. I can't find any configurable options in the GUI...
[22:22] <curlyears> stan_man_can: ask your IT staff whatt they think about the issue, I dare you
[22:23] <\9> stan_man_can: i don't think any standard defines the proper place to put such a thing
[22:23] <IonutVan_> are comments allowed in systemd .service file?
[22:24] <curlyears> stan_man_can: leave it in a folder under your home folder, and set the GID to a special group created for this purpose,  IT will have to assign each chosen user to the new group, but that is totally trivial
[22:24] <matejko> pls in HexChat when you press F1, what page is opened? can someone post a link... my firefox is opening homepage
[22:24] <Keydns> how do i get out of an application that is running in my erminal so that i see my home directory oncce again?
[22:25] <matejko> Keydns: ctrl+c
[22:25] <\9> Keydns: what application is it?
[22:25] <\9> matejko: not wise to suggest ctrl+c without knowing context
[22:25] <matejko> I thought thats the command for exiting/canceling
[22:26] <\9> it's the command for forcibly interrupting the running process
[22:26] <matejko> sorry about that then
[22:26] <\9> or, semi-forcibly anyway
[22:26] <Tex_Nick> matejko: on this box, HexChat F1 opens ... http://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
[22:27] <matejko> Tex_Nick: thx
[22:27] <matejko> \9: I hope Keydns wont kill me
[22:29] <matejko> nick hps
[22:30] <matejko> NICK
[22:30] <matejko> NICK hps
[22:30] <matejko>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-38-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU 2020M @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1,20GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3,5GiB, 75,9% free ** Disk: Total: 909,5GiB, 84,8% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH29: ThinkPad EC - ThinkPad Console Audio Control ** Ethernet: Realtek
[22:30] <matejko> Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 47m 58s **
[22:35] <matejko> sh** cant get the HexChat link opening to work
[22:35] <lordcirth> Why are only Server isos available via Jigdo?
[22:36] <k1l_> lordcirth: ask the jigdo guys?
[22:36] <lordcirth> Where?
[22:37] <lordcirth> It's just strange because Desktop ISOs are bigger
[22:38] <k1l_> matejko: does "x-www-browser google.com" in terminal work?
[22:38] <matejko> k1l_: opens chromium
[22:39] <k1l_> matejko: and "gnome-open http://google.com"
[22:39] <matejko> k1l_: "gnome-open is not installed"
[22:39] <k1l_> matejko: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[22:39] <matejko>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-38-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU 2020M @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1,27GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3,5GiB, 75,4% free ** Disk: Total: 909,5GiB, 84,8% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH29: ThinkPad EC - ThinkPad Console Audio Control ** Ethernet: Realtek
[22:39] <matejko> Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 57m 3s **
[22:40] <k1l_> no, which flavour
[22:40] <matejko> k1l_: HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-38-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 **
[22:40] <k1l_> ok, let me rephrase: which desktop is it?
[22:44] <matejko> k1l_: GDMSESSION=ubuntu SESSIONTYPE=gnome-session XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity
[22:44] <matejko> k1l_: is that it or something else?
[22:44] <k1l_> matejko: ok, so its unity.
[22:45] <matejko> k1l_: yes, and even thuunderbird is not opening links, just homepages
[22:45] <k1l_> did you try to purge firefox? and reinstall?
[22:46] <matejko> k1l_: yes, no changes
[22:47] <matejko> k1l_: how to set HexChat to open links in chromium?
[22:47] <k1l_> but usage of firefox works?
[22:47] <matejko> k1l_: firefox works well
[22:48] <k1l_> could you set !firefox to !/usr/bin/firefox  in that hexchat menu?
[22:49] <curlyears> OK, well, thanks to all, and I'll see you later
[22:50] <matejko> k1l_: still opening homepage
[22:51] <dlam> is there a way to see the dependencies for a package?  i wanna see what 'vim-gtk' needs
[22:52] <k1l_> matejko: last guess: open "preferred applications" (or informations) from the dash, then set firefox as standard app
[22:55] <bksubhuti> hello
[22:55] <matejko> k1l_: cannot find it
[22:56] <k1l_> matejko: click on the menu at the clock, choose "about this system"
[22:57] <matejko> k1l_: yeah, I have set "Web - Firefox"
[22:57] <k1l_> is there another firefox?
[22:57] <mcphail> dlam: "apt show vim-gtk"
[22:58] <matejko> k1l_: no, only one firefox and chromium and default is firefox
[22:59] <k1l_> ok, then i dont know what your manual install did change there
[23:00] <lordcirth> Would it make any sense to make a installer liveusb-style partition on a machine as a sort of recovery partition?
[23:00] <jeffblogs> ?
[23:01] <lordcirth> Ah nevermind, I'll do the grub bootable iso thing
[23:02] <matejko> k1l_: yeah, I fucked up.. but thx for your help ... even in firefox, when I clicked about:addons and opened "Languages" tab .. it said that english language pack 50.0 is not supported.. other language packs (49.0) was supported
[23:03] <baxt> Is there a way to turn of the leave and enter notification
[23:03] <k1l_> !quietirc | baxt
[23:04] <matejko> !quietirc | baxt
[23:10] <ldsh> Hi, I changed the motherboard (different brand), and remove the nvidia graphic card. The system only boot in emergency mode and I have no internet. I already uninstalled the nvidia drivers, but it still do not boot. What should I check now?
[23:11] <baxt> I'm using mutter it doesn't seem to have the option.
[23:11] <k1l_> ldsh: what video card do you use now?
[23:12] <ldsh> k1l the one of the cpu intel I7 6700k
[23:13] <ldsh> so Intel® HD Graphics 530
[23:13] <k1l_> ldsh: what do syslog and xorg log in /var/log say about the failed boot?
[23:14] <MMan_> nice ip6
[23:15] <MMan_> is it white all so ? :)
[23:15] <ldsh> k1l good idea. Is this possible syslog did not have been updated since before I change the hardware?
[23:18] <Guest61369> Hello?
[23:18] <Guest61369> Um
[23:18] <MMan_> hi mate was up
[23:18] <Guest61369> i need some help with video production
[23:19] <Guest61369> do you know any applications i can use to green screen?
[23:19] <MMan_> is it porn involved?
[23:19] <de-facto> !info kdenlive
[23:19] <Guest61369> please don't use that language
[23:19] <Guest61369> i need an application i can use to green screen
[23:19] <Guest61369> any ideas
[23:19] <debkad> gren screen?
[23:20] <nacc> Guest61369: open shot?
[23:20] <Guest61369> yea
[23:20] <Guest61369> know it?
[23:20] <ldsh> k1l_, Both files seems to date from boot before I change the hardware.
[23:20] <MMan_> yeah he means the green box- blue boc for rendering transpared things
[23:20] <Guest61369> I NEED A GREEN SCREEN
[23:20] <debkad> Guest61369: to green the desktop or video or what?
[23:20] <Guest61369> CAN ANYON HERE HELP ME
[23:20] <nacc> Guest61369: don't yell
[23:20] <Guest61369> from a camera
[23:21] <Guest61369> to proccess the video to have a green screen
[23:21] <k1l_> Guest61369: no need for capslock
[23:21] <Guest61369> you know Jelly the tuber?
[23:21] <debkad> Guest61369: the folks above already gave you at least one
[23:21] <Guest61369> you know Jelly the tuber?
[23:21] <nacc> Guest61369: oneshot's website says they can do what you want, i think (http://www.openshot.org/features/)
[23:21] <de-facto> he means having a green background in video and replacing that with something else i guess
[23:21] <nacc> Guest61369: that's not ontopic for this channel, afaict
[23:21] <Guest61369> DOes anyone know Jelly!
[23:21] <Guest61369> i am jelly
[23:22] <debkad> oh
[23:22] <Guest61369> and i omved to ubuntu
[23:22] <Guest61369> *moved*
[23:22] <Guest61369> i need an app to do my green screen
[23:22] <MMan_> like everyone else will do some time in the future
[23:22] <Guest61369> :P
[23:22] <Guest61369> i need help
[23:23] <Guest61369> im not use to ubuntu
[23:23] <nacc> Guest61369: then why did you move?
[23:23] <lordcirth> Guest61369, what do you need help with?
[23:23] <Guest61369> I heard it was better for video proccesssing
[23:23] <nacc> Guest61369: it feels like you have been provided answeres that you are trying to ignore
[23:23] <de-facto> kdenlive is pretty advanced google if it can do that
[23:23] <Guest61369> do i use openshot?
[23:24] <nacc> Guest61369: that is up to you?
[23:25] <DanTDM> Hello!
[23:25] <k1l_> Guest61369: so read yourself into openshot. that is a program  for greenscreen production
[23:25] <ldsh> k1l_, The boot.log has been updated. Seems I should also comment some entries from my fstab (I disconnected these hard drives)
[23:25] <de-facto> Guest61369 https://userbase.kde.org/Kdenlive/Manual/Effects/Alpha_manipulation/Blue_Screen
[23:25] <DanTDM> ITS DAN HERE!
[23:25] <k1l_> ldsh: yes. systemd is very picky when the fstab is not correct
[23:25] <DanTDM> man the service
[23:27] <ldsh> k1l_, I'll change that and see the result ;)
[23:32] <BookSearch> !Xon Matthew Cody - [Powerless 02] - Super (retail) (epub).rar
[23:32] <k1l_> BookSearch: no warez in here
[23:34] <MMan_> TIP: intel of a bot-prog represents its creator!
[23:34] <ldsh> k1l_, seems it did it! I thought I had to check that but forgot at the end. Thanks for the help :)
[23:37] <matejko> k1l_: pls, do you have firefox in your launcher?
[23:37] <k1l_> matejko: yes
[23:37] <bradhe> Hey all, I'm trying to migrate from 14.04 to 16.04. We've got a buncha upstart jobs...is there a good way to migrate without having to convert all the jobs from upstart to systemd?
[23:37] <kdawgubuntulivec> hi
[23:38] <matejko> k1l_: and if you right-click the firefox icon, what menus are there?
[23:39] <kdawgubuntulivec> hi
[23:39] <kdawgubuntulivec> anyone no how to change servers or connect to another one googling but havent found anything yet
[23:39] <MMan_> you said that and before! (goog it again ) :)
[23:40] <k1l_> MMan_: please stop that sort of responses. we stick to actual support in here
[23:40] <MMan_> roger
[23:41] <k1l_> kdawgubuntulivec: what server do you mean? can you give more details?
[23:41] <Rarrikins> kdawgubuntulivec: Do you mean IRC (this chat)?
[23:42] <k1l_> matejko: cat /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop   that is the config of that starter
[23:44] <MMan_> Any one know why VLC when it plays mp4 videos made with windows movie maker that had a jpeg picture only, it show me 2 horizontial pink lines who they cover 90% of the video?
[23:44] <MMan_> Totem plays them fine!
[23:45] <matejko> k1l_: yeah, but after edit (as root of course) nothing changed ... still showing only this menus: 1. Firefox - Internet Broswer and 2. Dont keep in launcher
[23:45] <k1l_> matejko: cat /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:46] <de-facto> MMan_ nope but you might want to investigate with mediainfo or such
[23:47] <matejko> k1l_: http://termbin.com/5z9f
[23:47] <Tex_Nick> MMan_: have you asked in #videolan ?
[23:47] <MMan_> i believe it is a decoder bug, just a idea, but i do not know how to add or remove codecs in VLC
[23:48] <MMan_> No i havent i will go there now
[23:48] <de-facto> MMan_ vlc uses libavcodec-ffmpeg or such while totem uses libgstreamer1.0 or such
[23:48] <MMan_> didnt even know that exists
[23:48] <Ben64> honestly, vlc is not great
[23:49] <MMan_> thanks for the answers, i heading over videolan to ask... ( yes Ben but i need its playlist )
[23:49] <Ben64> other things have a playlist
[23:49] <MMan_> quick propose one for me please
[23:50] <Ben64> mplayer2, mpv, smplayer
[23:50] <th0r> MMan_, audacious
[23:50] <k1l_> matejko: ist there some firefox stuff in .local/share/applications ?
[23:50] <MMan_> i need video and music playback with full screen support and playlist live editing
[23:50] <MMan_> audacious noted!!
[23:50] <Ben64> smplayer
[23:51] <MMan_> smplayer noted!!
[23:52] <matejko> k1l_: firefox_exe.desktop and firefox.desktop ... delete them?
[23:52] <OerHeks>  firefox_exe.desktop sounds like wine.
[23:52] <matejko> k1l_: oh I see!
[23:53] <matejko> k1l_: thanks :)
[23:53] <matejko> 0erHeks: yep wine
[23:53] <k1l_> wait, it was firefox in wine all the time?
[23:53] <OerHeks> k1l_, good find with local/share
[23:53] <matejko> 0erHeks: I had installed firefox 50.0 (beta version) and nothing worked there and I coudlnt purge it so I tried wine
[23:54] <matejko> k1l_: no but the settings in .local/shater/applications/firefox.desktop are the settings for my launcher
[23:55] <matejko> k1l_: *no but the settings in .local/share/applications/firefox.desktop are the settings for my launcher
[23:56] <de-facto> afaik the .local/... files "overrule" those from the system directories
[23:56] <wadadli> MMan_: what about google, ever note that?
[23:57] <k1l_> !google | wadadli
[23:57] <OerHeks> bing is also pretty good .. wait, ...
[23:57] <MMan_> nothing special at goog wadadli
[23:58] <MMan_> bing is a bad copy of yahoo with compilation of ms database!
[23:59] <matejko> k1l_: finally... I copied usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop into .local/share/applications/firefox.desktop and it does the trick.. now it will open the links :) thx for help bro :)


[14:34] <budo> can anyone help me?
[14:35] <diogenes_> !ask
[14:39] <budo> ok thank you
[14:40] <budo> my original files arent showing up when I start my computer. I am running lubuntu. what happened?
[14:40] <budo> like when i to go my home folder and documents and pictures none of my files is there
[14:41] <budo> and i know the hard drive isnt dead or else the bios would give me an error right
[14:42] <budo> anyway ill just wait til somebody gives me some response
[14:51] <tomreyn> budo: what do you mean by "original files"?
[14:52] <tomreyn> budo: this sounds like you recently installed lubuntu and now expected to find files you had previously stored somewhere (?) to be present on your home directory?
[14:52] <budo> my home folder
[14:52] <budo> no its not a recent install
[14:53] <budo> i was running it for about 2 years
[14:53] <budo> my external hard drive shows up in the desktop not my internal hard drive
[14:54] <budo> are there any unix experts in here?
[14:56] <diogenes_> budo, and what operations you usually have to do to get the files back?
[15:00] <budo> well i dont know  thats why im here asking questions
[15:00] <budo> my xpad notes are the same
[15:00] <budo> but when i go to file folders my documents isnt in there
[15:01] <budo> i usually boot my computer and my documents/downloads, and home folder would be there
[15:01] <budo> thats how it always was
[15:01] <diogenes_> budo, ls /home
[15:03] <budo> ok i might have  ahint when i go to download file or ducments it says its not valid
[15:03] <budo> ok hold on
[15:16] <budo> u think i should run a file system correction?
[15:17] <budo> fsck -a /dev/sda1???
[15:19] <budo> linux runs well but once u run into a problem u dont know how to fix it unless u are a professional
[15:19] <budo> im done with linux
[15:20] <budo> this is too much
[15:20] <budo> what channel is the top unix experts at
[15:20] <diogenes_> budo, ok, good luck with wondows then :)
[15:20] <diogenes_> windows*
[15:21] <apt-ghetto> budo: Lubuntu is a Linux, not Unix
[15:21] <budo> yeah but ppl that knows unix usually knows linux too
[15:21] <budo> oh boy
[15:25] <budo> ok. yall been good help. have a blessed day
 Budo, try #linux on Freenode if it's a general Linux issue
 @budo [<budo> well i dont know  thats why im here asking questions], COuld you give us more info on how you ended up with this situation?


[00:14] <mpt> slangasek, do we plan to distinguish between security updates and other updates on the phone?
[00:15] <mpt> (Asking because I'm wondering whether it's worth presenting them differently)
[00:15] <slangasek> mpt: TTBOMK no
[00:15] <mpt> ok
[07:30] <laviya> türk varmı
[09:31] <et0ne> hi
[09:45] <shadeslayer> ogra_: is there documentation on how things are setup using libhybris on ubuntu touch ?
[09:48] <et0ne> i am searching for a ubuntu-touch image for tilapia... or a description how to build an ubuntu-touch image myselfe
[11:02] <et0ne> wow ...ubuntu-touch sucks more then i expected
[11:15] <[mbm]> lol
[12:31] <shadeslayer> ogra_: oh and has anyone tried libhybris with X11?
[12:32] <shadeslayer> rsalveti: ^^
[14:58] <uvala> hi, I just found out about this group, and wanted to ask right away, how soon are ubuntu phones/tablets to be a reality?
[15:01] <D4rkSilver> uvala: I don't think anyone has that kind of information, and even if someone did have that it would probably be a rough guess
[15:02] <uvala> D4rkSilver, thank you, I see..does it seem like..sometime this year?
[15:04] <Oranger> uvala: soon :)
[15:05] <Oranger> uvala: We are working on it, so let us some time... or help us ahah :)
[15:06] <uvala> :) Oranger, sure..If I could, it'd be among my main endeavours.
[15:07] <Oranger> uvala: Why do you can't ?
[15:08] <uvala> I meant it solely from the technical point. I sure can keep spreading the word to convert people, though.
[15:09] <Oranger> uvala: Help is not only by developping things, you can translate, write documentation, help with money or like you said spread the word :)
[15:10] <uvala> yeah, translate I can, too!
[15:10] <Oranger> uvala: I'm sure I lost a lot of things ^^
[15:10] <Oranger> uvala: Where are you from ?
[15:10] <uvala> I'm based in Berlin
[15:43] <harris> so when will it come out to galaxy tab 2 10.1
[15:59] <teddy> hi
[15:59] <D4rkSilver> Hi
[16:03] <shadeslayer> oh
[16:03] <shadeslayer> ogra_: how do you build an armel raring chroot when there is no armel on ports.ubuntu.com
[16:04] <shadeslayer> uh
[16:04] <shadeslayer> ogra_: nvm
[16:10] <harris> so when will it come out to galaxy tab 2 10.1
[16:18] <harris> so when will it come out to galaxy tab 2 10.1
[16:50] <HoOn> Hey guys!
[17:59] <bjaanes> Is there something wrong with tabbed ui? Im tried using the "tabbed ui" template in the sdk, but swiping is just not working (tested on desktop and phone).
[18:28] <nik90> bjaanes: the swiping feature to switch tabs has been removed
[18:28] <nik90> bjaanes: To switch tabs, you need to click on the tab header and swipe there to switch tabs.
[18:28] <bjaanes> Is that supposed to be like that?
[18:29] <nik90> bjaanes: yes it was disabled last week since the swiping was not part of the design
[18:39] <bjaanes> Huh, that explains it, but it feels a bit wierd now xD But sure :)
[18:39] <bjaanes> thx
[18:42] <jaywink> btw any idea how often the android stuff changes these days - eg one needs to flash the whole phone? it's always such a lot of work to clean up and install stuff after flashing :)
[19:08] <bjaanes> Is anyone actually using ubuntu as their daily driver?
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> daily driver?
[19:21] <morphis> shadeslayer: I don't know anybody who did but should be possible
[19:24] <Hemanshu> hi,
[19:25] <Hemanshu> how to test software for ubuntu tuch
[19:40] <HoOn> hey guys! Quick question on installng touch on a Nexus4.  Do I need to be running the stock recovery or can I leave TWRP installed?
[19:41] <HoOn> I ran the script on Ubuntu and the install went fine, except the N4 just goes nowhere aftere the initial Google logo
[19:49] <bobweaver> HoOn,  I use TWRP with multiboot on my n7 works great Just followed the guide on xda
[19:50] <bobweaver> install the preinstalled-phablet-{name of device}  then flash the rom
[19:57] <HoOn> bobweaver: Ill try that after I get out of this bootloop. lol Ill have to flash it back to stock.  I followed the instructions from Ubuntu, which didnt work. :(
[19:58] <HoOn> bobweaver: so the only thing I can think of why it didnt work was because of twrp
[20:04] <harris> so when will it come out to galaxy tab 2 10.1
[20:26] <shadeslayer> ogra_: what's the username / password for the Nexus 7 over ttyACM0 ?
[20:26] <shadeslayer> ubuntu / ubuntu doesn't work
[21:48] <bobweaver> shadeslayer,  it is username: phablet and passwd :  phablet
[21:50] <shadeslayer> hah
[21:51] <shadeslayer> bobweaver: I added another user
[21:51] <bobweaver> :)
[21:51] <shadeslayer> phablet doesn't work
[23:39] <bcurtiswx> anyone having any troubles getting saucy and adb to recognize a nexus 7 ?
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> bcurtiswx, Context and details.
[23:52] <bcurtiswx> wilee-nilee, i power up and ubuntu appears but adb devices doesn't see the nexus 7
[23:52] <bcurtiswx> it's USB connected the my desktop which has saucy on it
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> bcurtiswx, You have the usb debug clicked in the developer on the N7
[23:53] <bcurtiswx> i have ubuntu touch installed
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> bcurtiswx, Hmm for some reason my nexus is not mounting in saucy did on last kernel.
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> 3.8 3.9 seems to not
[23:55] <bcurtiswx> wilee-nilee, ok thanks for the help :)


[20:13] <CorvetteZR1> hello.  i'm trying to use wget to download a binary and run it.  to download it, i need to pass a header with a token to auth.  it fails, i get a 400 back from the remote side.  here is my config:  https://dpaste.com/69YQJ59RK
[20:14] <CorvetteZR1> seems the remote side does not like the ' ' .  but if i leave it out, then i get a schema syntax error
[20:14] <CorvetteZR1> can someone please help with writing the wget line properly?
[21:05] <minimal> CorvetteZR1: what ' ' ?
[21:13] <CorvetteZR1> around --header in the wget command
[21:14] <minimal> there is no space around --header, there's a "'" before it and a "=" after it
[21:28] <CorvetteZR1> ah, that can cause a problem?  interesting...
[21:30] <CorvetteZR1> ok, i got it working, but i took a different approach.  instead of using [ , ] format, i just did it as a one liner and wrapped the whole command in ' '.  it's working now :)
[21:30] <minimal> CorvetteZR1: no, I didn't mention any problem, I was confused by your explanation of the issue
[21:34] <CorvetteZR1> minimal, ah, ok.  issue was that i didn't know how to construct that wget command in cloud-init properly because passing the header which had a : char in it was messing things up.  the ' ' around header fixed one error but caused another
[21:34] <CorvetteZR1> anyway, all good now.  thanks for your time :)


[17:20] <jrwren> whoa... i had missed this. https://speed.cloudflare.com
[17:22] <greg-g> neat
[17:23] <jrwren> huh... samba moving to GNUTLS is interesting: https://download.samba.org/pub/samba/rc/samba-4.12.0rc3.WHATSNEW.txt
[17:24] <cmaloney> That's cool
[17:24] <cmaloney> Though I'm curious how well that will work.
[17:25] <jrwren> whoa... and "New Spotlight backend for Elasticsearch"
[17:25] <jrwren> samba 4.12 is gonna be crazy.
[17:25] <jrwren> crazy awesome.
[17:25] <jrwren> oh sheesh. it is out: https://www.samba.org/samba/history/samba-4.12.0.html
[17:26] <jrwren> hopefully it is in groovy and I'll play with it come Sept.


[01:17] <nekohayo> anybody know if it's planned to have a border around the usplash progress bar?
[01:18] <nekohayo> not having one seems a little strange as you can't know where it "ends"
[08:04] <huw_> Hi people. I am interested in helping Ubuntu look good, so I began by making my first ever theme. you can see it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64390
[08:45] <AndyFitz> huw_ the metacity theme is great


[18:09] <Petya35> Hello! :)
[18:12] <penguin42> oh hi
[18:13] <Petya35> I need a little help. I recently updated my Ubuntu to 22.04.2 LTS. In the Snap Store I can see 5 updates but when I click on the update button, it says the snap has no updates available. How can I solve this problem?
[18:19] <Peter_HU> I found this and it solved my problem.
[18:19] <Peter_HU> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1411104/unable-to-update-snap-store-cannot-refresh-snap-store-snap-snap-store-ha
[18:19] <Peter_HU> Good night!
[21:35] <daftykins> Hungarians are coming to us for support now, what wrong turn are they making? :D
[22:32] <zxmpi> might be tryingg to practice their english?
[22:34] <daftykins> could be - i remember there's been a spate of question asking guests, i wondered if they had gotten the impression Brits are always happy to lend a hand
[22:34] <daftykins> ...i soon put them right ;)
[23:11] <zxmpi> might be small local language channels are quiet so if they have english they seek out any active english speaking channel
[23:12] <daftykins> makes sense
[23:12] <daftykins> would have thought going to main would be the best bet though


[01:38] <voje> Can someone help me with troubleshooting the onboard application?
[01:39] <voje> Or point me to a channel which could?
[01:50] <abc> hallo
[07:55] <IrcsomeBot1> Sam McCracken was added by: Sam McCracken
 mouse wheel click dont register in xev
 is possible to add
 left button is 1(xev) /right button (3)
[11:31] <user|19192> how can i install virtualbox
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:14] <IrcsomeBot1> <Sam McCracken> @user|19192, https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/6.1.0/virtualbox-6.1_6.1.0-135406~Ubuntu~bionic_amd64.deb
[14:23] <estan> anyone know what is likely to become the Qt version for Kubuntu 20.04? i know the alpha ISOs currently include Qt 5.12, but will that be the version in the final release..?
[14:24] <estan> or could it possible be Qt 5.14?
[14:24] <estan> it's so unfortunate that Qt's LTS releases and Kubuntu's release schedules are a bit off from eachother (e.g. with Qt 5.15 LTS coming out just a little too late for the Kubuntu 20.04 release) :/
[14:25] <estan> i remember the same thing sort of happened with Kubuntu 16.04 (i think), which got Qt 5.6, when Qt 5.9 wasn't that far off.
[14:49] <BluesKaj> estan, best to ask in #ubuntu+1 chat
[14:50] <BluesKaj> estan, or #kubuntu-devel
[15:23] <estan> BluesKaj: ah, thanks.
[16:22] <saruman-M> hello, I need some help
[16:23] <saruman-M> I have two monitors, one 1440p, one 4k, dialogs, text, etc. is scaled up very large, even though Displays - scaling says it is at 1, the lowest
[16:23] <saruman-M> it also affects the mouse cursor. the resolution is at highest for both monitors, so it is correct
[16:31] <Lucias64> Is there anybody home?
[16:33] <diogenes_> !ask | Lucias64
[20:41] <user|96499> wifi adapter/driver  is missing in versions 18.04 and  v 19 for my laptop. model HP OMEN. Fedora 31 does have the wifi driver. i  had to use a usb wifi dongle. Also amongst the keybaord  short cuts CTRL + ALT + T should be included for the terminal . I had to create one
[20:41] <kubuntu> hmm
[20:42] <Testing_Kubuntu> Anyone on here who uses kubuntu regularly?
[20:43] <Testing_Kubuntu> Testing it out atm and was curious about feelings. So far, it seems pretty damn snappy :O
[21:22] <valorie> I think most of us use kubuntu or why would we be in this chan?
[23:00] <eve__> Have some issues with "sudo kate"
[23:01] <eve__> was redirected from launchpad here to express my dissatisfaction with this bug
[23:01] <eve__> Ok, this is stupid, not being able to run an editor as sudo in linux is just plain dumb, no matter how you view it. What's the point? You can Nano, Vim, Emacs, Gedit etc. any file with sudo, why is Kate so special, and why is it such a pain to just let it run like a regular editor, and not throw wrenches in our environments?
[23:01] <eve__> This is to the author of Kate, while I appreciate the work, me (and everyone else for that matter) would much appreciate if you just grow up and realize we're not babies in no shape or form, we don't need hand holding or whatever you're using as an excuse, give us a possibility to install Kate as a regular editor. Some of us are hardcore linux users, we pretty much know are way around our environments, and no, sudoedit doesn't cut it.
[23:01] <eve__> Here's what I wish to you, I wish Linus makes a special version of the kernel just for you where you can't sudo anything, you have to add some configuration to "semi" sudo anything, but it will disappear after you restart your machine. Maybe this way you'll feel how we feel with your software.
[23:01] <eve__> Cheers, and I hope this gets fixed, and I can take back control of my software, otherwise, please put a paypal link so I can pay to use "sudo kate" and mark the software as shareware or something, so people know that they need to pay for ordinary functionality.
[23:02] <eve__> this is the exact comment from launchpad on the topic
[23:02] <eve__> how do we get a kate version that works as expected from any piece of linux software?
[23:03] <RikMills> eve__: you were NOT directed here. This is an upstream KDE change. They have their own channels/bugtracker/forums, which is not here
[23:04] <RikMills> there is #kde #kde-devel etc
[23:12] <eve__> oh lol, this is #kubuntu ... god damn...my apologies, I did not pay attention to the channel ....
 eve__ kate does not require sudo.
 you can edit root own files with kate and upon save, kate will prompt for your passowrd.
 @DarinMiller, like sublime


[02:47] <EpicCyndaquil> drab: I found out it's an issue with Ubuntu somehow, as I don't have this issue with debian. Really weird.
[09:24] <darksifer> Hi everyone. I am using samba as Domain Controller. Everything works but I cannot deploy printers using the Print Management from Administrative Tools. I get the error "failed to query for the list of group policy objects linked to this container." It worked only once. No changes were made. I have been looking for a solution since yesterday. Kindly help please. Thank you.
[10:06] <arunpyasi> Hello everyone, what may be the reason that I can send the mail to local email address which are hosted in same server but cannot send to the internet ? I have 25 port open too, I can telnet
[10:08] <tomreyn> arunpyasi: your mail servers' logs should tell.
[10:18] <arunpyasi> tomreyn, it says its not resolving..
[10:21] <arunpyasi> tomreyn, this is what I see : 2017-08-13 10:04:57 1dgmWC-0000Wp-5P ==<EMAIL_ADDRESS>R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host
[10:21] <arunpyasi> in the log
[10:34] <tomreyn> arunpyasi: sorry, i missed your reply. looks like it's either that your mail server has dns lookup issues or there just is no dns record on the internet for the given destination addresses' domain part.
[10:35] <tomreyn> i assume<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is not the actual destination address, but the one it said there is the one you need to examine.
[10:40] <arunpyasi> tomreyn, naa, they are valid emails..
[10:44] <tomreyn> arunpyasi: well domain.com does have an MX address. your mailserver apparently fails to determine this, which hints at a local DNS configuration issue.
[10:44] <tomreyn> *DNS lookup
[10:45] <arunpyasi> tomreyn, the thing is, I tested on multiple email addresses.
[10:45] <arunpyasi> tomreyn, @gmail.com, @domain1.com, etc..
[10:45] <tomreyn> and the result was?
[10:45] <arunpyasi> but emails are sent only to @domain.com
[10:47] <tomreyn> are you saying that you submitted, through your local mail server, e-mail addressed to users at gmail.com and at domain1.com, and that your mail server rerouted these to users at domain.com?
[10:48] <tomreyn> arunpyasi: ^ to clarify: by "users" i mean user parts of email addresses
[10:51] <arunpyasi> tomreyn, no, I said that.. mail from @domain.com goes to @domain.com but doesn't go to @gmail.com or @domain1.com
[10:51] <arunpyasi> I mean, internal mails work, but internal mails doesn't
[10:52] <arunpyasi> hope I am clear
[10:52] <tomreyn> i'm afraid not so.
[10:53] <oerheks> port 25? long time not used for mail
[10:54] <tomreyn> not for outbound mail at least
[11:27] <Vladimirski> issues installing proxmox-ve getting "cannot find dependencies..."
[11:27] <Vladimirski> Anyone had any issues with proxmox?
[11:28] <tomreyn> Vladimirski: no polls please. provide details if you are looking for a solution ot a specific issue.
[11:28] <tomreyn> proxmox is not in ubuntu (so not officially suppoorted here)
[11:33] <Vladimirski> alright
[11:33] <Vladimirski> thanks
[11:55] <tomreyn> btw i sent lutostag an e-mail about this yesterday...
[17:49] <sammyg> unable to locate package apache-utils
[17:49] <sammyg> how to resolve this?
[17:51] <tomreyn> sammyg: what makes you think it shoudl exist?
[17:51] <sammyg> was using apt-get to install
[17:52] <sammyg> sudo apt-get
[17:52] <sammyg> sudo apt-get install apache2 apache2-doc apache2-utils
[17:52] <sammyg> E: unable to bla bla
[17:53] <sammyg> tomreyn, what is this prefix E?
[17:53] <tomreyn> E as in Error
[17:53] <tomreyn> the bla bla is probably important
[17:54] <sammyg> E: unable to locate package apache-utils
[17:54] <sammyg> but it found apache2
[17:54] <tomreyn> the above command cannot have produced this message
[17:56] <sammyg> what makes you say that?
[17:56] <sammyg> oh wait a second
[17:56] <sammyg> i mistyped it :p
[17:57] <sammyg> sudo apt-get install apache2 apache2-doc apache-utils
[17:57] <sammyg> lol
[18:00] <sammyg> why set keepalive to off?
[18:01] <sammyg> allow persistent connection or not to?
[19:25] <tomreyn> which open source CMDB and ITAM software would you recommend? i'm looking for something less technically experienced users can use to create a hardware + software / (proprietary software) license inventory
[19:27] <drab> tomreyn: welcome to one of my personal hells
[19:29] <tomreyn> not the type of reply i was hoping for ;)(
[19:29] <tomreyn> u should probably have asked in offtopic, too.
[19:30] <drab> ime that's ok, I have a hard time finding any channel with ppl with a clue about server related stuff so I often just abuse here and hope for the best :)
[19:30] <drab> tomreyn: I've spent more nights than I care to admit trying and testin FLOSS CMDBs and ITAM stuff and all I can have to show for it is a 5 gallon bucket of tears
[19:31] <drab> however I'm also in a sort of unique situation, so it may be easier for you
[19:32] <drab> first off, you mentioned CMDB, but then it seemed more about inventory stuff
[19:33] <drab> tomreyn: could you elaborate on what you're after? just listing hw you own and sw installed on it?
[19:33] <drab> what OSs does it have to work on? do you need appliances to be integrated with it too? how important is outodiscovery for you?
[19:34] <tomreyn> drab: i'm trying to help a small organization (35 people) get a little bit of a clue about their hardware, software and their dependencies.
[19:34] <tomreyn> next stage would be to add a little risk assessment on top.
[19:35] <tomreyn> it's really a plain field, nothing has been done yet, it's tabula rasa, copmeplete chaos. so nothing to migrate. i'm even considering to start with a spread sheet
[19:35] <Ergo> hello, im trying to disable PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames on ubuntu 16.04.3, passing net.ifnames=0 to kernel doesnt seem to help, eth0 is not created i get no network , doing "ln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link" doesnt seem to be work for me either
[19:35] <Ergo> any hints?
[19:36] <Ergo> i was reading https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[19:36] <tomreyn> drab: of course they have no budget so i'm just thinking about how to help them create that inventory themselves.
[19:36] <drab> tomreyn: ok, I'm actually in a very similar situation, NGO work, no budget, no clue, etc
[19:37] <tomreyn> drab: okay and what's your current plan there?
[19:37] <Ussat> tomreyn, You may or may not like this answer, but when I was at a small org, we used MS Access for that
[19:37] <drab> tomreyn: first thing I did was indeed a google doc ssheet, and made up some tabs for them to fill out. It actually worked okish, main problem was place is a little bigger with a lot more turnout and things didn't get updated
[19:38] <Ussat> ok, I mean drab
[19:38] <tomreyn> Ergo: https://askubuntu.com/questions/689070/network-interface-name-changes-after-update-to-15-10-udev-changes
[19:38] <drab> tomreyn: the next thing I looked at, which I liked quite a bit, was yourcmdb.org
[19:39] <drab> the reason for that is that I also wanted some api to query the data to run ansible and stuff
[19:39] <tomreyn> Ussat: i don't dislike it, there's also LibreOffice Calc, could use that as well. Or just the spreadsheet, not much of a difference to me.
[19:39] <drab> for me things like cmdbuild were completely out of the door, it's stuff for large enterprises
[19:39] <Ergo> tomreyn: can  you be more specific? I googled a bit - I need this for VM images, so I don
[19:40] <drab> tomreyn: yourcmdb has a nice frontend and works pretty nicely yet it's simple and the codebase small enough that it's ok to fiddle with
[19:40] <Ergo> so i dont think i should check mac adresses and assign them in files
[19:41] <Ussat> Ergo, why are you wanting to disable that ? What issue are you trying to solve ?
[19:41] <drab> tomreyn: the other part of the puzzle is if you want sort of autoupdate with a client agent, for that there's https://www.ocsinventory-ng.org/en/
[19:41] <drab> but for me that was too much/not needed and it doesn't account for other bits and bobs so I decided against it, at least for the time being
[19:42] <Ergo> Ussat: im creating VM's that will work with various providers, there are some scripts there (and iptables rules) that depend on eth0 being present by default
[19:42] <tomreyn> drab: thanks. ocsinventory-ng is indeed on my list. i didn't know yourcmdb, thanks for the hint.
[19:43] <drab> for yourcmdb, the main issue is how much you hate xml and/or php
[19:43] <Ergo> i remember passing net.ifnames=0 to kernel fixed this to me in 16.04 but 16.04.3 seems to boot with no network at all
[19:43] <tomreyn> drab: but for now i really think just a simple spread sheet their staff should fill is a good thing to start with.
[19:43] <Ergo> only lo is present
[19:43] <tomreyn> Ergo: i'm sorry, i have no details, i never did it, am happy with the new naming scheme.
[19:44] <drab> tomreyn: if you're a ruby person you may want to take a look at http://cartoque.org/ , that also came up in my search
[19:44] <oerheks> Ergo, maybe you need the 2nd part too GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0"
[19:45] <drab> Ergo: net.ifnames=0 works for me, I do that in several places, but I also have biosdevname=0
[19:45] <tomreyn> drab: do you know this, i just found it and it looks ok, if more of a helpdesk self-management tool https://snipeitapp.com/
[19:45] <drab> I forgot if both were needed
[19:45] <Ergo> oerheks: yeah that worked before, im trying to see when it stopped working
[19:45] <Ergo> right now if i pass that the VM boots only with "lo" interface, and im sure it worked before
[19:46] <drab> what's in /etc/network/interfaces ? if it's still listing the predictable name that's why
[19:46] <Ergo> moving down from 16.04.3 to 16.04.1 to see if there is difference
[19:46] <drab> Ergo: do you see anythihg with ifconfig -a ?
[19:46] <Ergo> drab: (already killed the vm), i did change enc3 to eth0 in interfaces
[19:46] <drab> tomreyn: that's new to me, looks nice
[19:46] <oerheks> or with systemd, see the last part: https://askubuntu.com/a/628504
[19:46] <Ergo> ifup -a just printed a message that it cant bring it up :(
[19:46] <drab> tomreyn: the other thing lots of ppl recommended me is spiceworks
[19:47] <drab> to also avoid managing another service on premise
[19:48] <tomreyn> drab: i heard of it. these very folks are looking for on premise, though, do not have a cloud mind set. more of birkc + mortar folks. ;)
[19:48] <tomreyn> *brick
[19:50] <drab> tomreyn: another couple on my radar I didn't get to try: https://github.com/bugcy013/Inventory
[19:51] <tomreyn> oh wait i mixed that up, spiceworks is not cloud based apparently
[19:51] <drab> tomreyn: it can be
[19:51] <tomreyn> https://github.com/bugcy013/Inventory looks dead
[19:52] <tomreyn> i know + like device42, however
[19:53] <drab> so one of my fav tools in the space is this: http://ralph.allegro.tech/
[19:53] <drab> the only thing is, it's very DC oriented
[19:53] <sammyg> what kind of file is libapache2-mod-php? is it binary?
[19:53] <drab> tomreyn: and people just had too much trouble with it mentally
[19:54] <tomreyn> yes that's what i just thought. for DC foklks this is possibly a fine choice
[19:54] <drab> sammyg: not sure what you mean with that
[19:54] <drab> it's a .so apache loads
[19:54] <drab> it's binary like the apache binary...
[19:55] <drab> tomreyn: snapit actually looks pretty neat...
[19:56] <sammyg> don't want to crash if i try to open it in nano
[19:56] <tomreyn> drab: i think so. it look a bit similar to ralph, but less DC'ish, more suited for the generic office with plenty of workstations.
[19:57] <sammyg> just want to know what version this php mod is
[19:57] <sammyg> i got one *php, *php7.0, and *php7.0-fpm
[19:57] <sammyg> can nano open .so files? binary files?
[19:58] <drab> I don't think opening is the way to answer that question
[19:58] <drab> but if anything you can try to use the "head" command
[19:58] <drab> dpkg -S libapache2-mod-php.so or whatever it's called, and it should tell you which pkg it came from
[19:58] <drab> dpkg -L libapache2-mod-php might help too
[19:59] <drab> looks like 7.0+35ubuntu6
[19:59] <drab> depending on php7
[20:00] <drab> anyway, brb
[20:01] <tomreyn> drab: would you be able to share the table column heading for the spreadsheet you used initially?
[20:01] <tomreyn> s/column heading/column names/
[20:02] <drab> of course, but I suspect you're not gonna like it :P
[20:03] <drab> I have a table for interfaces linked from the devices table, because laptops for example have wifi + wired and I needed to track that
[20:03] <tomreyn> drab: because? too many?
[20:03] <drab> manual input to that isn't the prettiest, I had some seriously trained monkeys doing that
[20:03] <tomreyn> oh, ok
[20:04] <tomreyn> i wont have too much time to train monkeys, sadly
[20:04] <drab> still, happy to share what I have if you'd like
[20:04] <tomreyn> happily!
[20:04] <drab> how would you like to receive the pkg?
[20:04] <drab> shall I put a .csv column export somewhere?
[20:04] <tomreyn> you could upload somewhere, or send mail to my irc nick @megaglest.org
[20:05] <drab> ok
[20:05] <tomreyn> yes, just a csv would be great. thank you.
[20:05] <drab> tomreyn: will do, mind if it takes me a while? haven't eaten yet and have something scheduled for most of the afternoon
[20:05] <tomreyn> drab: take your time! :)
[20:06] <drab> cool, off I go then, ttyl
[20:06] <tomreyn> i wont work more on this tonight
[20:06] <tomreyn> thanks again, ttyl
[21:56] <Ergo> drab, tomreyn i fixed my problem, i needed to do it like this: https://paste.ofcode.org/KyEryTRRrA2tuM2ft6WGhN
[22:16] <tomreyn> glad you solved it!


[07:32] <dholbach> good morning
[21:24] <leonel> http://blog.softwhere.org/archives/196   <-- I guess this is comming  soon  to Ubuntu Hardy ...
[21:30] <persia> leonel: apt-get source openjdk-6 :)
[21:30] <leonel> Really ??
[21:31] <leonel>  I have this :    leonel@journey:~$ java -version
[21:31] <leonel> java version "1.6.0"
[21:31] <leonel> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b09)
[21:31] <leonel> OpenJDK Client VM (build 1.6.0-b09, mixed mode, sharing)
[21:31] <persia> Well, it's 6b10, not final, but close.
[21:31] <leonel> I gues this is not as simple as upgrading any other deb  by replacing the source and rebuild  right ?
[21:32] <persia> leonel: Well, it has a few rdepends...
[21:34] <leonel> persia:   if there's any test or  thing I can do  just let me know
[21:37] <persia> leonel: I'm not sure what is needed.  For Java, I tend only to look at leaf pacakges, and maybe some minor libraries.  The packaging of Java itself is not something I know much about.
[21:46] <leonel> same for those leaf packages ..
[21:47] <persia> leonel: Well, for the leaf packages, there are three interesting things to do.  1) Review which Java packages are in multiverse, and try to get them into universe because all dependencies are in universe
[21:48] <persia> 2) Review the open bugs against the packages, and try to fix them
[21:48] <persia> 3) Review the needs-packaging bugs for Java stuff, and get them included.
[21:48] <persia> The Debian wiki has a lot of good information about packaging Java applications.
[21:48] <leonel> Perferct !!