[06:18] <russell__> SOURdiesel: guess I'll have to use it then :)...OBAMA!!!!
[06:18] <sparr> im trying to connect to a "normal" windows-friendly pptp vpn, using nm-applet, and getting this error, help?  "The VPN connecton [name] failed because there were no valid VPN secrets."
[06:18] <tuxedocurly> anyone help plz?
[06:18] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: we know something of where it is breaking.  this is better than not knowing where the breakage is.
[06:18] <Uplink> tuxedocurly: google it?
[06:18] <SOURdiesel> russel_:  at least it works right
[06:18] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I see
[06:18] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: i did.. anyhow how could he know my ISP's name and everything?
[06:18] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: do you have another computer you can try one or both of the disks on?
[06:19] <thedark_> is linux more or less popular in the US compared to Asia?
[06:19] <Uplink> tuxedocurly: i can know your ISP right now
[06:19] <russell__> SOURdiesel: Yeah I guess...peace out :)
[06:19] <thedark_> particularly South Korea and Japan
[06:19] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: The disk I just plugged in works for sure, I can try the harddisk in a second
[06:19] <freetown> mintsoup, every other computer can resolve names? Then check for the differences in settigns then...
[06:19] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: how?
[06:19] <Agent7629> tuxedocurly: was this on irc?
[06:19] <tuxedocurly> Agent7692: yes
[06:19] <Flannel> thedark_: Try ##linux, or #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is for technical support.  Thanks.
[06:19] <tuxedocurly> Agent7629: yes
[06:19] <mintsoup> freetown; ok ;p
[06:19] <ValentineX> how to uninstall an application ? sudo removeall ? like this some command
[06:19] <Uplink> tuxedocurly: type /whois tuxedocurly
[06:19] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: well, I guess you could unplug both disks, reboot the machine and then try the second one (see if it works better)
[06:20] <mintsoup> freetown and everyone else thanks for your assistance
[06:20] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: okay, ill try that
[06:20] <Flannel> ValentineX: sudo apt-get remove packages, but synaptic makes it easy if you're using Gnome (or Adept if you're using KDE)
[06:20] <mintsoup> however I have another problem..  The restricted drivers app properly lists my nvidia video card, but when I try to activate the driver, nothing happens..  is this a known problem?
[06:21] <ValentineX> Flannel: me using gnome, thanks
[06:21] <Flannel> !synaptic | ValentineX
[06:21] <marcustomized> wut happened to your 'gay agenda' blog
[06:21] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: well, the external harddisk wont reach to my other computer without like ten minutes of moving, so I cant try it the other machine. My server is booting up now
[06:21] <aoirthoir> I am trying to turn off tooltips across gnome completely. There is a property gtk-enable-tooltips that has a default value of TRUE. An ubuntu report claimed turning it to FALSE should turn them off. I have tried, but do not know the proper way to do so, since I do not know anything about .gtkrc files. Does anyone know a way I can do this for all my apps?
[06:21] <Dezine> Can someone help me out? I'm trying to install the latest World of Warcraft and it doesn't seem to work. Trying to run the patch in the Terminal results in a nice long list of errors. http://paste.ubuntu.com/67748/
[06:21] <freetown> mintsoup, have you tried running Nvidia X settings?
[06:22] <Flannel> Dezine: #winehq may be able to support you better
[06:22] <Filled-Void> Hello all , Just had a rather basic question. Assuming I had a moderately new computer. How much time am I looking forward to if I chose to install Ubuntu with the default options.
[06:22] <Dezine> Alright, thanks.
[06:22] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: thanks bro!
[06:22] <Flannel> Filled-Void: Maybe an hour?  Its pretty quick.
[06:22] <mintsoup> freetown, the driver is not installed.. so neither is nvidia-settings
[06:22] <Uplink> tuxedocurly: np... btw, who was the user who told you that?
[06:23] <kelvin911> hi , will ubuntu infected by rootkit?
[06:23] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: madara
[06:23] <Filled-Void> Flannel, Thank you :). Just wanted to confirm if I was doing something wrong .
[06:23] <mintsoup> kelvin911 it's always a possibility ;)
[06:23] <kelvin911> how?
[06:23] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: the /media/sdc/ directory is still there, and the harddisk is unplugged. But there is nothing in the directory. Mount reports the harddisk is not mounted. Ill plug in the other disk
[06:23] <freetown> mintsoup, synaptic should either tell you why you cannot install the nvidia driver or it will do it for you
[06:24] <Uplink> tuxedocurly: in what channel
[06:24] <tuxedocurly> flannel: do you have any idea what vmsplice() is?
[06:24] <mintsoup> freetown: ok so should I try through synaptic instead of the restricted drivers manager then?
[06:24] <freetown> mintsoup, did you mark it for installation?
[06:24] <Flannel> tuxedocurly: nope
[06:24] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: hold on
[06:24] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: he was in the #politics channel
[06:24] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: opps, I just plugged it in :(
[06:24] <tuxedocurly> Flannel: ok thx
[06:24] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: it didnt mount, though
[06:24] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: well, lets see  - you plugged in the second one you tried?
[06:24] <nmh-j2graw> (this time)
[06:25] <freetown> mintsoup, first install the nvidia-xxx (glx|new) driver package for your card
[06:25] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: yes, I just plugged in the second one
[06:25] <krishna> I was trying to build gnome-games from source.. I have built most of the dependencies.. but still i get this error.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/67751/  can someone have a look at it?
[06:25] <ValentineX> Flannel: thank u :D
[06:25] <mintsoup> freetown: what's the difference?
[06:25] <Flannel> krishna: Why are you trying to build it from source?
[06:25] <roy_hobbs> Hey.  Can anyone tell me how I can drag windows between separate x-screens?
[06:25] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: might i ask why you are curious?
[06:25] <Uplink> tuxedocurly: that might be considered as a hack threat
[06:26] <freetown> mintsoup, er...can't say really...nvidia-glx apparently for geforce4 and nvidia-new for newer chips
[06:26] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: then what do i do???
[06:26] <roy_hobbs> Or give a command to move a window from one screen to another...
[06:26] <Uplink> tuxedocurly:  port scanning a remote host without permission is a serious thing
[06:26] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: still not mounted?
[06:26] <Flannel> !cloak | Uplink, tuxedocurly
[06:26] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: no, I can try to mount it manually
[06:26] <kev_> Hello
[06:26] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: okay
[06:26] <mintsoup> freetown; k
[06:26] <CITguy-Artemis> Anybody know what's changed in 8.10 that is preventing me from installing my NVIDIA drivers?
[06:26] <freetown> mintsoup, i was an ati user so i can't really tell you the details for nvidia
[06:27] <Uplink> Flannel: wrong bro... he is telling me someone told him he is vulnerable to something...
[06:27] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: my desktop has that issue, too. It refuses to automount devices plugged in after startup
[06:27] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: the dude also said that he would be sniffing my internet traffic nd stuff
[06:27] <mrynit> I am updating 8.04 to 8.10. If i put my laptop into sleep and loose my internet connection will the update break my system?
[06:27] <Uplink> Flannel: no need for the !cloak bro...
[06:27] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: i dunno if it was just empty threats or what, so i came here
[06:27] <Flannel> tuxedocurly: Look into getting an unaffiliated cloak
[06:27] <Uplink> tuxedocurly: lets take this to PM
[06:27] <kev_> Anyone know how to fix the ubuntu 8.10 usplash bug? i'm waiting to customize the slpash but when doing so it just shows a text bootup?
[06:27] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: ok
[06:27] <kev_> wanting*
[06:27] <Uplink> Flannel: the problem is that his ISP is private... idk whats going on
[06:27] <melichar> having a build problem
[06:27] <melichar> XF86VidModeGetAllModeLines in -lXxf86vm... no
[06:27] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: What would the filesystem type be for a 125 megabyte usb stick?
[06:28] <mintsoup> freetown: well this is my laptop, so i still have my desktop to go, we'll see how the ati drivers work out for me there ;p
[06:28] <freetown> kev_, just ask
[06:28] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: vfat maybe
[06:28] <krishna> Flannel: taking the first step towards contribution..
[06:28] <kev_> freetown i am asking? How can i fix the usplash error?
[06:28] <freetown> mintsoup, okay. a recent one will probably need nvidia-new package
[06:28] <Flannel> krishna: Ah, you might want to try #ubuntu-motu then, building packages, etc.
[06:28] <freetown> kev_, oh. dunno. missed it
[06:29] <krishna> Flannel: thank you.
[06:29] <melichar> im having a compiling error, XF86VidModeGetAllModeLines in -lXxf86vm... no
[06:29] <kev_> humm ty anyway, freetown
[06:29] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: ... and?
[06:30] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: It displayed the help section for mount, I think my syntax is incorrect... this is what I used: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc/ /media/sdc vfat
[06:30] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: oh, nvm i found the problem, i think :)
[06:30] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: one too many vfats
[06:30] <sparr> how do i configure a vpn connection in kde?
[06:30] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: does it not work if you just do mount /dev/sdc /media/sdc ?
[06:31] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: no, it requests a type.
[06:31] <nmh-j2graw> (with the correct device path)
[06:31] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I think I have the wrong dev
[06:31] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: hmm quite possible
[06:31] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: what release are you running?
[06:31] <melichar> checking for XF86VidModeGetAllModeLines in -lXxf86vm... no
[06:31] <melichar> configure: WARNING: Some features will be disabled
[06:31] <melichar> ./configure: line 5005: =1: command not found
[06:31] <melichar> checking for main in -lXpm... no
[06:31] <melichar> configure: error: "*** i need XPM stuff ***"
[06:31] <FloodBot1> melichar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:31] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: ubuntu server 8.04
[06:32] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I used to know a command to show all devices, but I forgot it a bit ago...
[06:32] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: lsusb ?
[06:32] <\Kira> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 3538:0042 Power Quotient International Co., Ltd Cool Drive U339 Flash Disk
[06:32] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: or dmesg
[06:33] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: it had quiet a bit of information for sdc on dmesg, but it was errors.
[06:33] <scientes> how do i change the color for the tops and bottom of the compiz cube?
[06:33] <MrPeepers310> ok in genome is there anyway to align the icons horizontaly on the desktop instead of vertically?
[06:33] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: such as?
[06:34] <Agent7629> scientes: give me a quick second and ill get the exact setting, but i think its under Cube Color
[06:34] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: ill do a pastebin
[06:34] <Agent7629> scientes: Desktop Cube => Appearance Tab => Cube color...
[06:34] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/67757/
[06:34] <melichar> ok heres my problem . http://paste.ubuntu.com/67756/ , some compile problem
[06:35] <scientes> thx
[06:35] <CITguy-Artemis> Is the Ibex kernel compiled for xen?
[06:35] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: it recognizes the size of the stick, but the rest are errors
[06:35] <Agent7629> scientes: can also scroll down for cube cap and put images on there if you want .. hope that helped
[06:35] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: simple: try sdc1
[06:35] <r_rehashed> hello. i am trying to upgrade from the alternate cd. i have mounted it on /media/cdrom0. after i run cdromupgrade, it tells me to download another 521 MB of files. Is this necessary? Why doesn't it get the packages from the cd?
[06:35] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: oh, lol. Never thought of that :)
[06:35] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: more complete: you can check what the partitions are and then mount one of those
[06:36] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: it mounted fine, aside from having to perform it manually
[06:36] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: and can you list files? read file contents? write file contents? create new files?
[06:37] <r_rehashed> i have a download limit. so i can't download another 521 mb. please help
[06:37] <CLINUX> lol go to a friends place r_rehashed
[06:37] <melichar> can anyone help me? Thanks. http://paste.ubuntu.com/67756/
[06:37] <Flannel> r_rehashed: Assuming those files are on the CD, it will use the CD ones, yes.
[06:38] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: as root, yes I can make and change files
[06:38] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: as a normal user, no
[06:38] <Flannel> r_rehashed: It says it has all that to download, but it'll quickly reduce that number when it sees theyre on the CD
[06:38] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: great!
[06:38] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: That was pretty much the same as my desktop, I should look into that...
[06:38] <r_rehashed> Flannel: oh ok. thank you :)
[06:38] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: I don't like your other usb thing, I think you should seriously consider a new enclosure and/or disk
[06:39] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: You mean the external harddisk?
[06:39] <melichar> can anyone help me? Thanks. http://paste.ubuntu.com/67756/
[06:39] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: as for root vs. user, vfat doesn't know about users or somesuch.  the way linux works around this is to pretend that everything in that filesystem is owned by one user.
[06:39] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I see, thats cool
[06:39] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: I think you can mount it so that your normal user owns (and can read/write) the files
[06:40] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: yes, the external
[06:40] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: maybe try to unmount the little one, unplug it, replug it and then mount (make sure it really works)
[06:40] <CLINUX> Please help melichar
[06:40] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: okay, ill try that. One sec
[06:41] <CLINUX> anyone?
[06:41] <MrPeepers310> ok in genome is there anyway to align the icons horizontaly on the desktop instead of vertically?
[06:41] <melichar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67756/
[06:41] <CLINUX> ?
[06:41] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I think I know why I got the device is busy error, i was in the harddisks directory while trying to unmount it
[06:42] <sudoroot> MrPeepers310: i think you can just drag them around
[06:42] <sudoroot> to wherever u want
[06:42] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: well, that is one cause.  I think you can use fuser or lsof to check if anything is using the device
[06:42] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: (fyi, in the future)
[06:43] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: lol, it worked.
[06:43] <cr4z3d> i have a problem. i just upgraded to Intrepid 8.10 from 8.04 and now my laptops screen constantly flickers
[06:43] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: yay
[06:43] <cr4z3d> it's unusable at this point
[06:43] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I think this was all a problem of me not using the right commands and the system not automounting
[06:43] <sparr> cr4z3d: intrepid is pretty buggy :(
[06:43] <melichar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67756/
[06:44] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: on the up side - it sounds lik eyou have it under control
[06:44] <cr4z3d> sparr, i figured it wouldn't be that bad since it was a final.. but i guess i was wrong?
[06:44] <dan_> join /bah
[06:44] <sparr> cr4z3d: we all were
[06:44] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: Thanks a bunch for the help! That solves alot of my network problems ive been trying to experiment with. Yeah I think I got it, but I do have one question about the ubuntu server if you have time
[06:44] <MrPeepers310> sudoroot: but they wont stay there
[06:44] <b33r> sparr, 8.10 works great for me no bugs so far..
[06:45] <MrPeepers310> meh screw it, i need to restart anyways
[06:45] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: as long as you can accept 'i dont know' as a possible answer
[06:45] <cr4z3d> sparr, there's no way to quickly undo it is there? besides installing from scratch
[06:45] <sparr> nope
[06:45] <sudoroot> MrPeepers310: try right click and read the settings on the popup menu... unlock it or something
[06:45] <sparr> im probably reinstalling soon
[06:46] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: the system seems slow to update on some things. For instance: I make a group and put myself in it, then I use the groups command to see what groups im in, and the groups command doesnt update until I reboot, but the file permissions and everything change. Its the same with deleting files... Is this normal for ubuntu server?
[06:46] <nmh-j2graw> sparr: cr4z3d: what are you trying to undo?
[06:46] <faria> hello how to adduser ?????/
[06:46] <cr4z3d> nmh-j2graw, upgrading to 8.10
[06:46] <sudoroot> can anyone here can point me in the right direction for computer help?
[06:46] <sparr> nmh-j2graw: intrepid upgrade, it's horrible, especially in kubuntu
[06:46] <melichar> ive been trying to work on this compiler for hours, just got a fresh install of ubuntu 8.10, any help , http://paste.ubuntu.com/67756/  . Thanks
[06:46] <r_rehashed> Flannel: it's still downloading from the ubuntu server. :/
[06:47] <sudoroot> my desktop doesnt want to boot anymore... it boots up and shuts down
[06:47] <nmh-j2graw> cr4z3d: hmm... may be bigger pain than a reinstall, but you might be able to use pinning with apt-get or aptitude (maybe)
[06:47] <\Kira> faria: from command line, its "sudo adduser PUTNAMEHERE". Im not sure about gui
[06:47] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: I think you have to logout/login for the group membership to take
[06:47] <SmellyMelly> YO
[06:48] <melichar> ive been trying to work on this compiler for hours, just got a fresh install of ubuntu 8.10, any help , http://paste.ubuntu.com/67756/  . Thanks
[06:48] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I see, any idea about the files, and sometimes when I use the screen program some programs appear to be frozen, but they are actually working fine.
[06:48] <calebH> faria: in gnome (default ubuntu install) goto System > Administration > Users and Groups
[06:48] <calebH> faria: it should be pretty easy from there...
[06:48] <snoffy> #lublin
[06:48] <aoirthoir> I am trying to turn off tooltips across gnome completely. There is a property gtk-enable-tooltips that has a default value of TRUE. An ubuntu report claimed turning it to FALSE should turn them off. I have tried, but do not know the proper way to do so, since I do not know anything about .gtkrc files. Does anyone know a way I can do this for all my apps?
[06:49] <melichar> ok, back to windows for me, thanks
[06:49] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: I have had screen not update for two cases: x-off and history (I don't kno wif that is what happens to you or not)
[06:49] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: do you have xpm?
[06:49] <razel> how can i share user's folder at the other pc on my network?
[06:50] <melichar> yes
[06:50] <mintsoup> i have compiz enabled on this computer.. what package can I install to get compiz-config?
[06:50] <dan_> Assistance: Any ideas ? i have a command in a shell file says "  export MATRIX_PATH=$MTTPATH/trans/m//    " Is the "//" fine ??
[06:50] <melichar> i have libxpm4, xpm2wico, xpmutils
[06:50] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: and the dev stuff (headers and whatnot) ? do you have much experience in building from source?
[06:50] <FAIRY> hello
[06:50] <calebH> melichar: compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:51] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: what release?
[06:51] <\Kira> melichar: hmm... I wonder if it could all be conisidence. To be quiet honest I was pretty frustrated with all of the stuff not working and just about ready to give up until I decided to give it one last shot tonight, looks like it might work out anyways. I just have to get better accomidated with the command line, I think...
[06:51] <calebH> oops, that was for mintsoup
[06:51] <mintsoup> thanks
[06:51] <melichar> all Im trying to do is compile a program to a install package
[06:51] <Pupeno> is there an applet to show me the price of shares on my desktop bar?
[06:51] <FIxmelsproblem> He just installed Intrepid nmh-j2graw
[06:51] <calebH> Pupeno: Invest?
[06:51] <melichar> nmh-j2graw xmputils is 1:3.5.7-1
[06:52] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: I will assume that means no, not really.  try adding the package libxpm-dev and see if that helps
[06:52] <nmh-j2graw> FIxmelsproblem: oh, okay
[06:52] <Pupeno> calebH: thanks.
[06:52] <FIxmelsproblem> I have the program working and I dont have xpmutils installed nmh-j2graw
[06:52] <dan_> Assistance: Any ideas ? i have a command in a shell file says "  export MATRIX_PATH=$MTTPATH/trans/m//    " Is the "//" fine ??
[06:52] <r_rehashed> why is the distribution upgrade program getting packages from the Net instead of the alternate cd?? >:-P
[06:53] <whileimhere> Hi. I need a suggestion on what program to install. I would like to be able to make some digital tracks like I would in the MS Windows program Fruity Loops. Is there anything like this for Linux?
[06:53] <FIxmelsproblem> http://hem.bredband.net/b400150/ that is the program
[06:53] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: hmm... I wonder if it could all be conisidence. To be quiet honest I was pretty frustrated with all of the stuff not working and just about ready to give up until I decided to give it one last shot tonight, looks like it might work out anyways. I just have to get better accomidated with the command line, I think...
[06:53] <melichar> nmh-j2graw: Thanks been looking for a xpm library for hours
[06:53] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: did it work?
[06:53] <mintsoup> yay 8.10 rocks :D
[06:53] <calebH> anybody have any luck getting their VPN connection to work with this new networkmanager?  I need detailed documentation on it, or some help getting mine to work...
[06:53] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: well, hopefully things are easier now
[06:53] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: yeah, thanks a bunch for the help
[06:54] <melichar> nmh-j2graw: new error, one sec
[06:54] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: glad I could hlep
[06:54] <nmh-j2graw> (even if I can't spell)
[06:54] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: lol, night
[06:54] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: see you later
[06:54] <melichar> nmh-j2graaw http://paste.ubuntu.com/67770/
[06:54] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: yep
[06:55] <metrick> How do i add brushes to gimp?
[06:55] <metrick> on ubuntu 8.10
[06:56] <b33r> melichar, do sudo make install
[06:56] <melichar> b33r: i did, same error
[06:57] <_coredump_> moinsen
[06:58] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: can you pastebin etswitch.c and fcntl2.h (separately)
[06:59] <melichar> k one sec
[07:01] <melichar> all i could find was etswitch.c
[07:01] <melichar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67775/
[07:02] <paul68> `Tony: are you here?
[07:02] <metrick> anyone?
[07:02] <mynameistux> Hi. I am having a problem with ubuntu. When I boot, it says that fsck has failed. This is probably because I grew some partitions, and shrunk some others from a gparted livecd. How do I tell ubuntu that all is well, and it doesn't need to drop me at a root prompt at boot?
[07:03] <sparr> how do i fix the (seemingly common) problem of my ethernet and wifi device numbers incrementing every time i reboot?  i am using eth68 right now
[07:04] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: okay, hold on a minute
[07:04] <melichar> nmh-j2graw: thanks
[07:05] <N00boontu> hey anyone know how to transfer my Ipod songs onto my HD with ANY music player at all?
[07:07] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: umm, maybe this is something to ask the author about...
[07:07] <nmh-j2graw> N00boontu: have you tried songbird?
[07:08] <mib_h17mjr> i have the same program working on my system nmh-j2graw
[07:08] <melichar> nmh-j2graw: alright, as long as i now have the complining librarys :) thanks for the fix
[07:08] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: yeah, good luck
[07:08] <mynameistux> Hi. I am having a problem with ubuntu. When I boot, it says that fsck has failed. This is probably because I grew some partitions, and shrunk some others from a gparted livecd. How do I tell ubuntu that all is well, and it doesn't need to drop me at a root prompt at boot?
[07:08] <N00boontu> nmh-j2graw, where does songbird auto put my stuff?
[07:08] <nmh-j2graw> mib_h17mjr: feel free to offer some help (I am not sure what the problem is, now)
[07:09] <nmh-j2graw> N00boontu: no idea - I would expect it to be configurable
[07:09] <N00boontu> ok, its working, thanks! nmh-j2graw
[07:09] <nmh-j2graw> hmm, if only I could solve my problems so easily...
[07:12] <Neurologic> Hey guys, I know this is probably a really common question, but I'm having a hard time deciding, for a linux newbie, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:12] <koo> exit
[07:12] <Rolypoly> have u tried both?
[07:12] <Flannel> Neurologic: You can try both if you'd like.  But Ubuntu, especially right now, is probably a better choice.
[07:12] <sudoroot> Neurologic: opengeu... u will b amazed...
[07:13] <Neurologic> Flannel, why do you say what?
[07:13] <Neurologic> opengeu? O_o...what?
[07:14] <sudoroot> Neurologic: u can install one... and just install the environment later... boot into ubuntu or kubuntu or xubuntu or other desktop environment... i prefer lxde or xubuntu
[07:14] <hubar> Hi is there firefox 3.1 beta in ubuntu repository?
[07:14] <b33r> Neurologic, in #ubuntu people would recommend ubuntu in #kubuntu they will recommend kubuntu :P it's a matter of personal opinion try ubuntu imo if you didn't like it you can install kubuntu desktop on ubuntu
[07:14] <sudoroot> Neurologic: ubuntu on steroids....
[07:14] <Flannel> Neurologic: Because a new version of KDE (that's a massive rewrite) (Kubuntu has KDE, Ubuntu has Gnome) just came out, so some aspects are still being figured out, etc.
[07:14] <Neurologic> Flannel, that's what I was concerned about, I tried KDE4 when it first first came out, and I was terribly confused.
[07:15] <Neurologic> Plus, it seemed rather...buggy.
[07:15] <Rolypoly> apparently KDE4 wasn't very fun, the newer version of it was much improved
[07:15] <sudoroot> http://opengeu.intilinux.com/ Neurologic
[07:15] <VBNewUser> ubuntuforums.org is down
[07:15] <Flannel> Neurologic: so there you go.  Go with Ubuntu, and you can always install KDE and try it out again at a later time if you'd like.
[07:15] <brain187> or you could make ubuntu look like vista like i did. i have a screenshot i could send if anyone is intrested
[07:16] <Rolypoly> you changed it to La Trene?
[07:16] <hubar> Hi is there firefox 3.1 beta in ubuntu repository? If yes, what repository is it in??
[07:17] <Neurologic> Flannel, I suppose, I'm just really still trying to learn the basics, and when I saw KDE4, it was pretty...but...it was kind of confusing =S I guess I'll just try Ubuntu first.
[07:17] <sudoroot> Neurologic: install ubuntu... start command line... sudo apt-get intall kde... and there u have gnome and kde... u can log out of ubuntu and change session to kde and log into kubuntu... i have environment now... kde, gnome, lxde, xpde, e17
[07:17] <VBNewUser> ubuntuforums.org site is currently down. can someone help me?
[07:17] <mynameistux> Hi. I am having a problem with ubuntu. When I boot, it says that fsck has failed. This is probably because I grew some partitions, and shrunk some others from a gparted livecd. How do I tell ubuntu that all is well, and it doesn't need to drop me at a root prompt at boot?
[07:17] <kattollikisd> I am looking for a package that have the Spanish language for the Open Office ( so the Open fix the spanish's word when they are bad ) Sorry forma english :( someone here know about it?
[07:18] <Flannel> !es | kattollikisd
[07:18] <samborambo> anyone here a Transmission expert?
[07:18] <mynameistux> ! id
[07:18] <VBNewUser> and now Ubuntu has become highly unstable.
[07:18] <mynameistux> ! en
[07:18] <Neurologic> sudoroot: I understand maybe half of that, and...I don't really have the space to have a million different GUIs =(
[07:18] <mynameistux> hehe
[07:19] <nmh-j2graw> Neurologic: I am using 8.04 and it seems quite nice - I think your idea of trying gnome ubuntu is a fine idea.
[07:19] <kattollikisd> I am looking for a package that have the Spanish language for the Open Office ( so the Open fix the spanish's word when they are bad ) Sorry forma english :( someone here know about it? ( ubuntu-es dousen't answer my question )
[07:20] <Neurologic> Thanks
[07:20] <sudoroot> Neurologic: i would recommend ubuntu or xubuntu... xubuntu is much faster and looks the same as ubuntu...
[07:20] <Neurologic> I'm just waiting for the partition to resize.
[07:20] <nmh-j2graw> kattollikisd: have you tried downloading a spanish language pack for openoffice? (maybe just the dictionary)
[07:20] <mynameistux> I think it should be called myspell, for spanish, something like myspell -es
[07:21] <VBNewUser> I keep getting disconnected.
[07:21] <Steve1> hi. When i resume from suspend I see errors about my rt61 wireless card flash on the console before the gui appears. Can anyone tell me if/where these would be logged?
[07:21] <mynameistux> /var/log
[07:21] <kattollikisd> nmh-j2graw, I don't know what is the name of that package...
[07:21] <mynameistux> or, system, admin, system logs
[07:21] <nmh-j2graw> Steve1: have you already looked at /var/log/messages and simliar?
[07:21] <gnuskool> ok, now whars with the busybox login on booting ubuntu?
[07:22] <hubar> kattollikisd: try myspell-es
[07:22] <hubar> kattollikisd: That is package name.
[07:22] <frybye> katt - if i remember right you need to add the spanish dictionary plugin within the open office...
[07:22] <frybye> hubar - dosent he do that within open office???
[07:22] <reduz> QUESTION: Ubuntu scraps my DVDs when recording. Tried 2 different DVD recorders (sony and acer), both work flawless under windows, but under linux they fail recording with write errors like one out of two times. Any ideas?
[07:23] <kattollikisd> hubar, you save my @ss...
[07:23] <hubar> frybye: I dunno, but it doesn't hurt to try :)
[07:23] <ray_> hi got a problem a windows program in wine on ubutnu 8.10 will not uninstall what i do now
[07:23] <kattollikisd> hubar, a lot of thank u
[07:23] <hubar> kattollikisd: So that is the right answer?
[07:23] <ray_> i remove the wine from system loeft program here
[07:23] <ray_> what i do to remove it
[07:23] <ray_> thanks so much
[07:23] <hubar> kattollikisd: great! glad to help. :)
 actually, I think it was I who suggested that
[07:23] <frybye> hubar: I will go look inside oo... brb
[07:24] <mynameistux> Hi. I am having a problem with ubuntu. When I boot, it says that fsck has failed. This is probably because I grew some partitions, and shrunk some others from a gparted livecd. How do I tell ubuntu that all is well, and it doesn't need to drop me at a root prompt at boot?
[07:24] <ray_> any one see my q
[07:24] <nmh-j2graw> mynameistux: wny not fix the filesystem?
[07:24] <milligan_> When checking top, I see that www-data is running python here and there. Is there any way of checking WHAT script it's running ?
[07:24] <mynameistux> how?
[07:24] <kattollikisd> hubar ^_^
[07:24] <kattollikisd> mynameistux, jajajaja really :P
[07:24] <tri> can anyone know how check  modem is install in ubuntu8.1
[07:25] <ray_> see noi help :(
[07:25] <nmh-j2graw> mynameistux: fsck /path/to/device (when it is not mounted rw)
[07:25] <frybye> ray_ normally to be done other way round.. while wine is still installed.. use it to remove all the windows proggs and then remove wine itself..
[07:25] <ray_> frybye what i do now
[07:25] <ray_> it sed it uninstalled it when it didnt
[07:25] <ray_> what i do now frybye
[07:25] <ray_> ?
[07:25] <mynameistux> so, fsck /media/sda2 when I get the prompt at bood
[07:26] <mynameistux> *boot
[07:26] <frybye> ray_ no idea to be honest.. i am a relativ newbie myself.. see what others say.. perhaps you can re-install wine - delete the windows proggs..
[07:26] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 8.10 amd64: Trying to install the latest mplayer, but it asks for liblame0, I try to install liblame0 from launchpad, but get an error
[07:26] <AdemoS> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/amd64/liblame0/3.97-0.0
[07:26] <gnuskool> why do i get a busybox login instead of ubuntu?
[07:26] <ray_> any one eles help me with my q
[07:26] <reduz> ok maybe i should make my question simpler:
[07:26] <frybye> alternative is to just delete all the related folders perhaps - in win that would be bad but in linux not so bad as far as I know..
[07:26] <reduz> WHY does Ubuntu scraps my DVDs when recording? :( Windows works fine!
[07:27] <nmh-j2graw> mynameistux: something lik ethat.  and then when it finds errors, you get to deal with that.
[07:27] <Flannel> ray_: To remove the wine programs and settings, delete ~/.wine
[07:27] <wouter> i updated to intrepid, everything ok, only places menu doesn't work anymore -> "there was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[07:27] <ray_> flannel how i do this
[07:27] <ray_> \im new to ubuntu 8.10
[07:27] <nmh-j2graw> mynameistux: also, you might want to make sure you are cleanly unmounting your disk(s) when you shut down
[07:27] <wouter> anyone has an idea?
[07:28] <mynameistux> its my home partition
[07:28] <ray_> flannel how i do this im new to ubuntu 8.10
[07:28] <Flannel> ray_: Open up your home folder in the file browser (the program is called nautilus), then hit ctrl-H to see hidden files, then you'll see .wine, delete that
[07:28] <nmh-j2graw> mynameistux: how many partitions do you have? (and do you have any backups?)
[07:28] <ray_> flannel how i run this
[07:28] <Oprtz> i am  using Wicd Manager instead of Network Manager, my wirless adaptor light was ON a couple of days before, But now it doesn't work, i am trying to turn it ON manually but failed, why is taht? thanks
[07:28] <Flannel> ray_: How do you run what?
[07:29] <djhash> milligan_: try checking logs..
[07:29] <ray_> natutilus
[07:29] <nmh-j2graw> mynameistux: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-316345.html
[07:29] <Flannel> ray_: Ah, go to Places > Home folder
[07:29] <mynameistux> partition 1, ubuntu around 10gig, partition 2 home, about 100gb, partition 3 ntfs, am going to install XP
[07:29] <frybye> hubar: inside O.o. open the help and look under "Languages" or if you are in the spanish O.o. whatever that is in Sp.
[07:29] <ray_> flannel im there now what i do
[07:29] <woody86> is there a #channel for programmers?
[07:29] <Flannel> ray_: Follow what I just said to do
[07:29] <ray_> what next step
[07:29] <mynameistux> going to reboot router because of muck ups
[07:29] <milligan_> djhash, which log?
[07:29] <Flannel> woody86: Language specific channels are, yeah.  Generally #language
[07:30] <ray_> im a disability person and need to do it insteps
[07:30] <ray_> i did one so next step is
[07:30] <djhash> milligan_: probably the apache logs..
[07:30] <wouter> Can anyone help me? I updated to intrepid, everything ok, only places menu doesn't work anymore -> "there was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[07:30] <nmh-j2graw> woody86: http://searchirc.com/dir/Computers/Programming-and-Development
[07:30] <gnuskool> woody86: there is a channel for java programmers
[07:30] <Flannel> ray_: You're in your home folder, push ctrl-h to see the hidden files, delete .wine
[07:30] <ray_> ok
[07:30] <ray_> i del it
[07:30] <gnuskool> woody86: but you can type /join and have a look
[07:30] <nmh-j2graw> mynameistux: also, be ready to reinstall grub
[07:30] <frybye> ray_: end of problem!!! ;=)
[07:30] <ray_> flannel how i del it from my applictions also
[07:30] <woody86> thanks guys :D
[07:30] <milligan_> djhash, they don't have anything about any python scripts. I did an strace on the pid though, and it looks like it's a gettimeofday() loop that returns a value now and then.
[07:31] <ray_> i see folder there how i remove it from there as well
[07:31] <Flannel> ray_: Right click the applications button, and then choose edit menu, or menu editor, or whatever.
[07:31] <ray_> o ok
[07:32] <ray_> thanks
[07:32] <ray_> flannel
[07:32] <djhash> milligan_: then you need to find out what script has gettimeofday().. i'm not familiar with python.. but if there aren't many files.. you can check them by hand
[07:33] <ray_> flannel i ran this sudo apt-get autoremove wine is that ok to do
[07:33] <ray_> is that to remove wine right flannel
[07:33] <Flannel> ray_: sudo apt-get purge wine, not autoremove wine
[07:33] <ray_> flannel i ran the auto remove one
[07:33] <ray_> i didnt know
[07:33] <djhash> milligan_: my best suggestion is to look at the python script that is loaded when http://localhost is accessed.. i don't know if it would something like index.py or something else.
[07:34] <Flannel> ray_: If it didn't error, then you're fine.
[07:34] <yowshi> havig a problem with fusion-icon package synaptic keeps tripping over it
[07:34] <yowshi> anyone solved this problem yet?
[07:34] <ray_> flannel it didnt
[07:35] <frybye> nmh-j2graw - all this stuff in the the O.O. hep system under languages if i am not mistaken...
[07:36] <wouter> Can anyone help me? I updated to intrepid, everything ok, only "places menu" (bookmarks) doesn't work anymore -> "there was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[07:36] <khussein78> hi all
[07:36] <sudoroot> khussein78: hello... a/s/l???
[07:37] <HeMan> Hi! How is Xen supposed to work in intrepid? I find no Xen kernel
[07:37] <frybye> sudoroot: that is for #ubuntu-offtopic !!!
[07:37] <scientes> why does compiz have to do wierd things to my skydome image instead of just showing it how it is
[07:37] <scientes> ?
[07:37] <sudoroot> oops! sorry my bad
[07:38] <khussein78> i have a problem on new release of ubuntu with evolution, when i go to calender it crash
[07:38] <frybye> considering that if I put half a toe wrong i get jumped on heheh
[07:38] <khussein78> i see in the logs segmentation fault ?
[07:38] <khussein78> did any one face the same problem ?
[07:39] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 8.10 amd64: Trying to install the latest mplayer, but it asks for liblame0, I try to install liblame0 from launchpad, but get an error
[07:40] <netstar> co_biasa
[07:40] <woody86> what's the difference between a compiler and an interpreter, and when would you prefer one over the other?
[07:41] <reduz> maybe it's the fault of the verbatim disks
[07:41] <reduz> i should tyr another brand
[07:42] <wouter> Can anyone help me? I updated to 8.10, everything ok, only places menu doesn't work anymore -> "there was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[07:42] <Rolypoly> i dont think anyone knows wouter :(
[07:43] <wouter> Rolypoly: to bad, everthing else is ok
[07:43] <Flannel> woody86: That's entirely offtopic for this channel.  Try #ubuntu-offtopic, or a number of other channels.
[07:44] <Rolypoly> wouter: did it do that from the start? it sounds to me like somethings corrupted (not that i'd know)
[07:44] <woody86> Flannel: sorry about that, I typed in the wrong tab :(
[07:44] <Flannel> woody86: No worries
[07:45] <wouter> Rolypoly: yea, from start, after updating
[07:45] <razel> what is the command for sharing users folder at home folder? i can share it there is a message saying im not the owner.. how can i solve it?
[07:45] <razel> i cant share it
[07:46] <wouter> Rolypoly: all items in places menu result in that, only 'connect to server' and such are ok, they aren't bookmarks
[07:46] <sudoroot> razel: have u tried the old right click trick?
[07:46] <Rolypoly> sry, i don't know hey :(
[07:47] <razel> sudoroot: yes i did
[07:47] <razel> but there is a message im not the owner
[07:47] <grub_booter> anyone know of any work around for the lack of session saving in intrepid?
[07:48] <metrick> can anyone tell me how to add brushes to gimp?
[07:48] <overrider> hello, i have a computer that is connected to a adsl modem. what is the easiest way to setup a pppoe connection? is there a wizard or something? thanks
[07:48] <metrick> 8.10 =]
[07:48] <sudoroot> razel: sorry can't help u more
[07:49] <razel> sudoroot: i am the administrator but why is it?
[07:49] <Ward1983> nice i might have foudn a wrt54g for 30euro, now lets hope its a 4.0 or older :D
[07:49] <sudoroot> razel: i think u need to be a superuser to do stuff like that.. usually thru the cli...
[07:50] <st3vie> razel, in a terminal you can use chown (change owner) of files/folders. If needed with sudo
[07:50] <razel> ill try
[07:50] <Lukian> I have a copy of 8.10 on cd and an older ubuntu install, what's the cleanest way to reinstall/update it using the least bandwidth I can (and being able to boot off that partition)
[07:51] <ay^> put the cd in and it should display option of upgrade
[07:51] <ay^> unless you have some other old version than 8.04
[07:51] <b33r> hey can someone give me direct link for 8.10 md5?
[07:51] <kke> hmm why can't i add icons for gnome-terminal -profiles?
[07:51] <Flannel> b33r: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/MD5SUMS
[07:51] <grub_booter> does anyone know if automatic session saving works in kubuntu?
[07:52] <b33r> Lukian, if you have cd you can't update you need to reinstall
[07:52] <kke> the icon selection was available in 8.04 but not anymore after upgrading
[07:52] <b33r> Lukian, if you have alternate cd you can update from cd
[07:52] <b33r> Flannel, thank you
[07:52] <ay^> b33r: oh that option is only on the alternate cd? thats a tad uncool
[07:53] <Lukian> b33r, reinstall will be fine, I'd prefer to delete everything (bar the files needed to boot) off that partition, can I remove everything except the /boot directory safely?
[07:53] <b33r> Lukian, yeah just format the partition and backup your home directory if you want
[07:54] <ay^> Lukian: you /boot isn't on it's own partition? then a format of the drive will erase that too, tho a clean install will create a new /boot
[07:54] <Lukian> ay^, it's not, instead of formatting, can I just delete everything bar that directory?
[07:55] <ay^> why do you need it?
[07:55] <Lukian> I'm aware the install will make a new one, but I've had issues with some installs in the past ;)
[07:55] <b33r> Lukian, what issues?
[07:55] <ay^> Lukian: my tip is to create a new small partition of say 200mb
[07:55] <Lukian> ay^, can't do that atm, but I'll keep it in mind for when I can
[07:55] <ay^> Lukian: put your old /boot in there and then format everything else
[07:56] <ay^> Lukian: hu? why not? Just delete 200mb of something somewhere and shrink and create
[07:56] <ay^> Lukian: gParted is in the livecd
[07:57] <Lukian> hmm can an extended partition be flagged as bootable?
[07:57] <dataflow> is there another gui tool i can use for my wifi instead of Network Manager
[07:57] <ay^> Lukian: yes
[07:57] <ay^> dataflow: yes wicd is one
[07:57] <dataflow> my wifi card is tripping out
[07:57] <Lukian> ay^, alright I'll unmount it and see what I can do when I've sorted my homedir out :)
[07:58] <ay^> Lukian: do that :) I'm off eating breakfast
[08:02] <Rolypoly> has anyone setup a bluetooth phone to get internet with 8.10?
[08:03] <kke> Rolypoly: i did on 8.04 and it still works on 8.10
[08:03] <Rolypoly> ok, the guides ive followed for 8.04 all tell me to get bluez, and it wont let me install that on 8.10
[08:03] <Rolypoly> i think theres a new bluetooth library and bluez still wants the old one
[08:04] <jim_p> Rolypoly: does the bluetooth service woek now?
[08:04] <Rolypoly> bluetooth works. im using my mouse with it atm :)
[08:05] <Rolypoly> and i found my mobile internet provider in the network manager list
[08:05] <xsacha> hi. when i start ubuntu 8.10 for the first time(after install or live cd), i hear the starting music and then get corrupt white and grey graphics. i attempt to go to the terminal to fix xorg and it says: loading please wait
[08:05] <Rolypoly> i dont know how to make those two things work though
[08:05] <ray_> hi i have sound on auto and all i hear is staic what i do on a dell e1505
[08:05] <xsacha> using intel i965 videocard
[08:05] <ray_> and all i hear when run test is stadic what i do thanks
[08:05] <ray_> on ubuntu 8.10
[08:05] <wouter> Can anyone help me? I updated to 8.10, everything ok, only places menu doesn't work anymore -> "there was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[08:05] <ray_> any one
[08:06] <ziroday> xsacha: okay, can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please
[08:06] <ray_> any one see myu q :(
[08:06] <ziroday> wouter: one sec
[08:06] <ray_> ziroday see my q
[08:06] <ray_> i posted
[08:06] <nullbnx> ray, if you can just do a clean install
[08:06] <ziroday> ray_: I have, I don't know the answer
[08:06] <nullbnx> i had alot of glitches like that and had to do a clean install
[08:06] <wouter> ziroday, ok
[08:06] <ray_> nullbnx i has the update
[08:06] <ziroday> !sound | ray this is all I can give you
[08:07] <ray_> and after this is what i got
[08:07] <ray_> should i use the oss
[08:07] <ray_> nullbnx
[08:07] <xsacha> ziroday: how? i cant even get to a console
[08:07] <ray_> nullbnx when i tryed then i heard sound
[08:07] <ray_> should i use oss
[08:07] <ray_> ones
[08:08] <ziroday> xsacha: if you hit ctrl + alt + f1 you should be able to
[08:08] <ray_> in sound prefernce
[08:08] <nullbnx> ray_: your sound worked before the update?
[08:08] <ray_> yes
[08:08] <ziroday> !enter | ray_
[08:08] <xsacha> ziroday: i hit this key combination and it says: Loading please wait
[08:08] <xsacha> ziroday: on a black screen with white writing
[08:08] <ray_> nullbnx but when i tryed oss sound it comes out with sound
[08:08] <ziroday> xsacha: no login prompt?
[08:08] <nullbnx> ray_: sounds like you need a clean install...
[08:08] <nullbnx> ray_: then use oss
[08:08] <ziroday> wouter: see point 12 in http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/10/intrepid-update-faq.html
[08:08] <xsacha> no
[08:08] <ray_> just not with asla
[08:08] <ziroday> xsacha: try ctrl + alt + f2
[08:09] <kelvin911> why ubuntu starts to use swap????
[08:09] <xsacha> ok, think it will be different?
[08:09] <bob_> My PC is acting like "Hover Click" or "Dwell Click" is turned on. It isn't. Can anyone help me with this?
[08:09] <nullbnx> ray_: either play with settings until things work or clean install... im sure a clean install will fix your problem
[08:09] <xsacha> ill try that then
[08:09] <kelvin911> i have 3GB of ram and the system is using about 1GB and then start swap?
[08:09] <ziroday> xsacha: hopefully
[08:09] <kelvin911> if i disable swap would ubuntu be faster?
[08:09] <ray_> nullbnx if it working with oss works and hear sound dose it mean alas dont like my card
[08:09] <ray_> alsa
[08:10] <ziroday> kelvin911: probably not, ubuntu maybe caching it
[08:10] <ray_> should i stay with oss nullbnx
[08:10] <ray_> if it works
[08:10] <kelvin911> kelvin@kelvin-desktop:~$ free
[08:10] <kelvin911>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[08:10] <kelvin911> Mem:       3116048    2934960     181088          0     681584    1271436
[08:10] <kelvin911> -/+ buffers/cache:     981940    2134108
[08:10] <kelvin911> Swap:      4096532      39832    4056700
[08:10] <FloodBot1> kelvin911: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:10] <ray_> it only wors on oss Nul
[08:10] <bakarat> i'm getting invalid signatures when checking for updates with update manager
[08:10] <ray_> is this comen
[08:11] <ray_> just woundering my self nullbnx
[08:11] <kelvin911> http://pastebin.com/m92e75ab
[08:11] <ziroday> kelvin911: please don't flood, from what I can tell you are using very, very little swap at all. Disabling it will not make your system faster
[08:11] <kelvin911> it starts to use swap not just caching
[08:11] <kelvin911> but if i have 2GB of ram unuse why using swap?
[08:11] <wouter> ziroday, doesn't do the trick
[08:12] <ziroday> kelvin911: your system using swap is not a cause for concern
[08:12] <b33r> ziroday, swap is slower than ram..
[08:12] <ray_> is it command for alsa not to work and need to use oss
[08:12] <ray_> ?
[08:12] <ziroday> wouter: one sec
[08:12] <kelvin911> is there a way to force the os use all the ram unless it is very necessary to swap?
[08:12] <ray_> my card befor updated the system to 2.6 or somthing like that from a update
[08:12] <setuid_w00t> Is there anywhere that I can find updated ubuntu packages?  Specifically, I am trying to determine whether rsync 3.0.4 is packaged.
[08:12] <bakarat> anyone know why i would be getting invalid signatures from the official hardy repos?
[08:12] <ray_> and now need to use oss sound is this command
[08:13] <ziroday> b33r: of course, however if a program is put in swap when the ram is not full will not make it slower
[08:13] <b33r> kelvin911, I say yes disable your swap with 3GB you wont need it
[08:13] <ziroday> setuid_w00t: gimme a sec
[08:13] <ray_> just woundering
[08:13] <kelvin911> can i disable swap without restart?
[08:13] <ziroday> wouter: so you did what point 12. said and it didn't work
[08:13] <ay^> kelvin911: yes
[08:13] <kelvin911> how?
[08:13] <Seaboy> hey guys
[08:13] <ay^> swapoff
[08:13] <dataflow> if i can see my wifi in iwconfig does it mean it's working. Because i can see it and it aint working.
[08:14] <ray_> any see my q? :(
[08:14] <ay^> !info swapoff | kelvin911
[08:14] <kelvin911> but something is in the swap now
[08:14] <ay^> bah
[08:14] <ray_> is it command for alsa not to work and need to use oss
[08:14] <ziroday> !info rsync > setuid_w00t
[08:14] <kelvin911> can i just swapoff?
[08:14] <rubial> maa chudao
[08:14] <ay^> kelvin911: I do it a lot, but if you worried reboot
[08:14] <ray_> any see my last q
[08:15] <ray_> or did i get booted
[08:15] <kelvin911> so i can swap on and off on the fly?
[08:15] <dataflow> the network manager says my signal strength but it is unable to authenticate past the gateway
[08:15] <ariqs> how do I capture streaming video?
[08:15] <ay^> ray_: I can see it
[08:15] <Seaboy> when I was in my kubuntu desktop. suddenly everything changed to white, and after rebooting splash screen is ok, but after logging in, again just awhite screen, what's the problem?
[08:15] <wouter> ziroday, yea, did that, opened nautilus with a terminal, right click on any folder and selected open with, the i choose 'Open folder' (wich stands for the nautilus command)
[08:15] <b33r> kelvin911, I think you ave to disable it from fstab but not sure
[08:15] <ray_> ay is it command for alsa not to work and need to use oss
[08:15] <ray_> i have ubuntu 8.10
[08:15] <dataflow> gtk-RecordMyDesktop
[08:16] <dataflow> ariqs, in your temp dir will be all your flash
[08:16] <setuid_w00t> ziroday: That just tells me that the current version is 3.03.  I'm wondering if there are newer packages available outside of the regular intrepid sources.
[08:16] <bob_> My PC is acting like "Hover Click" or "Dwell Click" is turned on. It isn't. Can anyone help me with this?
[08:16] <ay^> ray_: I have no idea
[08:16] <ray_> any one know
[08:16] <ray_> ay do some people need to use oss to get sound working
[08:16] <ray_> i never had to use them
[08:16] <ay^> bob_: I know neither of those two
[08:16] <ray_> thats why im asing
[08:16] <ray_> asking
[08:16] <sysdoc> Upgraded to 8.10 today, dual monitor as separate x screen, and my bottom panel (task bar) is missing. If I start  AWN it doesn't appear either. The resolution is correct for the monitor yet the background image does not appear to reach the bottom. anyone have a clue?
[08:17] <ay^> ray_: probably some do, or they wouldn't be there I suppose
[08:17] <dataflow> ariqs, say you wanted to keep a video your watching on youtube. just 'mv /tmp/*.fsh /home'
[08:17] <ray_> ay o ok thanks
[08:17] <ay^> ray_: np :)
[08:17] <Lukian> sysdoc, CRT or LCD?
[08:17] <sysdoc> LCD
[08:17] <sysdoc> NVIDIA
[08:17] <Lukian> odd :o
[08:18] <wamng> 不会用xchat阿
[08:18] <dataflow> does anyone know anything about getting wifi working?
[08:18] <sysdoc> Nvidia settings lists the 2 nd LCD as CRT tho
[08:18] <ay^> dataflow: well not much
[08:18] <wamng> 这里好像都是说英语的，我想到中文的
[08:18] <ay^> dataflow: did you try wicd?
[08:19] <kelvin911> you cant chat chinese here
[08:19] <ziroday> wouter: correct, try login and out again
[08:19] <dataflow> not yet. it wasnt in apt-get so...
[08:19] <dataflow> ill find it
[08:19] <ay^> dataflow: I know some poeple had o success with NM, but great success with wicd in hardy, intrepid is all new to me so I don't know about that but you could try
[08:19] <ay^> dataflow: no you have to add its repository
[08:19] <ziroday> setuid_w00t: err there could be one of the in a PPA somewhere or possibly on getdeb.net, your best bet is to google around
[08:19] <ziroday> !cn | wamng
[08:19] <wouter> ziroday, it works, thx man, wish i could help you in any way
[08:19] <setuid_w00t> ziroday: What is PPA?
[08:20] <ziroday> wouter: no problem :)
[08:20] <ziroday> !ppa > setuid_w00t
[08:20] <c0mp13371331337> Anyone know of a way to stop certain gnome-panel applets from changing color when I mouse-over them?  I'd like them to remain transparent rather than changing to my theme's color.
[08:20] <wouter> see you guys
[08:20] <ziroday> setuid_w00t: basically a private ubuntu repo for any launchpad member
[08:20] <kwak> hi, i'm trying to upgrades my hardy server to 8.10, i run update-manager -d then click upgrade but i always get W: failed to fetch ..... some index files failed to download
[08:20] <vasilisa> what on earth does this error mean? " "Unable to create io-slave. klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'trash'."
[08:20] <kwak> i tried different mirrors but same problem
[08:20] <bob_> My PC is acting like "Hover Click" or "Dwell Click" is turned on. It isn't. Can anyone help me with this?
[08:20] <ziroday> kwak: try with update-manager -c instead of -d
[08:21] <Guest75833> Hi
[08:21] <c0mp13371331337> bob_: Try Preferences > Windows > Window Selection
[08:22] <vasilisa> this is so aggravating. gwenview's my favorite way to organize pictures, and it cant even delete to trash
[08:22] <kwak> -c doesn't show the available 8.10 upgrade
[08:22] <bob_> c0mp13371331337:Not checked!?!
[08:22] <ziroday> kwak: did you enable the "upgrade to new releases" in software sources?
[08:22] <jim_p> did a kernel update happen today? v8.10
[08:23] <ziroday> vasilisa: you can complain to the gwenview authors
[08:23] <ay^> jim_p: yea
[08:23] <vasilisa> ziroday: I would, except that the same bug happens in some other apps.
[08:23] <c0mp13371331337> bob_: Are you running compiz?  I THINK I remember seeing an option somewhere in CCSM for raise-window-on-mouseover.
[08:23] <jim_p> ay^: thanks
[08:23] <dataflow> is there supposed to be an indication of my wifi in /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:23] <ziroday> vasilisa: then file a bug :), note that gwenview is a kde app and issues may be centering from that. Try it under kde
[08:24] <ziroday> dataflow: nope
[08:24] <dataflow> ok
[08:24] <vasilisa> ziroday: I am ... but no one has answers in the kde/kubuntu community....
[08:24] <c0mp13371331337> bob_: That, or your demon-posessed mouse is constantly clicking by itself. ;-)
[08:24] <fenerli7> I have an active SMB share but cannot remove it... webmin and samba show only one shared resource (the printer)
[08:24] <bob_> I am running 8.04, I think Compiz is native but I'm not sure. Kinda a noob. Problem really is when typing. My cursor will moove to the mouse pointer wiith out notice
[08:25] <c0mp13371331337> bob_: Laptop?
[08:25] <ay^> bob_: are you on a laptop?
[08:25] <bob_> c0mp13371331337: Yes Dell Inspiron 600m
[08:25] <ay^> bob_: if so try to disable the touchpad. I had my touchpad clicking all over the place at random intervals
[08:25] <ay^> bob_: mine is dell 1525 ;P I see a pattern
[08:25] <Lance_> hi
[08:25] <fenerli7> or only disable while typing, the touchpad can be useful
[08:26] <kwak> ziroday, any other suggestions
[08:26] <ay^> fenerli7: if it does what mine did, which is right clicking, it sucks everywhere ;P
[08:27] <ziroday> vasilisa: did you try it under kde?
[08:27] <c0mp13371331337> bob_: Ah yes.  I work for Dell tech support.  That's a very common call, actually.  The touchpad has an option where you can tap it to click somewhere.  Your wrists are hitting the touchpad, causing a click at wherver the cursor is.  I don't know how to change the tap-to-click sensitivity in Ubuntu, unfortunately.  We deal mostly with Windows where I work. :-P
[08:27] <fenerli7> ay^: lol... that's messed up
[08:27] <ay^> ziroday: he is on kubuntu afaik
[08:27] <vasilisa> ziroday: yeah i did :(
[08:27] <ziroday> kwak: sorry is the option that enables you to go to new releases enabled in System sources?
[08:27] <bob_> ay^: I could try that when I get home. I don't have a spare mouse here. Did you ever find answe?
[08:27] <fenerli7> c0mp13371331337: gsynaptics
[08:27] <ay^> fenerli7: oh yeah it was randomly making me crazy
[08:27] <ziroday> vasilisa: ah, well then you need to file a bug or ask for help in #kubuntu
[08:28] <fenerli7> ay^: i can imagine
[08:28] <bob_> c0mp13371331337:I don't think I'm doing that but I will pay more attention. Thats for the idea!
[08:28] <ay^> bob_: nopes.. I always carry a mouse with me
[08:28] <bob_> ay^: that sounds like a pain
[08:28] <fenerli7> bob_: get gsynaptics to configure to touchpad
[08:28] <ay^> bob_: indeed..
[08:28] <c0mp13371331337> bob_: fenerli7: There you have it, gsynaptics.
[08:28] <vasilisa> ziroday: u.u k...
[08:29] <bob_> Thanks All!!!! I'll give it a try.
[08:29] <ziroday> vasilisa: sorry I don't follow?
[08:29] <vasilisa> ziroday: oh, that was a sad face sorry :) i said 'kay'
[08:29] <ay^> ziroday: u.u = sad dude
[08:29] <ziroday> vasilisa: ay^: okay
[08:30] <ziroday> vasilisa: best place to ask is #kubuntu
[08:30] <bloemkool> hello
[08:30] <vasilisa> ziroday: im there... and in #kde. just asking everywhere hoping someone can translate the error message
[08:30] <bloemkool> the release notes of Gnome 2.24 mention a new timetracker applet, but I can't seem to find it in ubuntu 8.10
[08:30] <bloemkool> do I need to install a separate package for it ?
[08:31] <yt766i> anyone know a good suite for digital camera stills and video for burning CD's/DVD's.  tovid is broken right now in Ubuntu 8.10
[08:31] <ziroday> bloemkool: yep, its called hamster-applet
[08:31] <bloemkool> k tnx
[08:31] <ziroday> yt766i: brasero?
[08:32] <yt766i> I use brasero, but I need something that'll convert the .mov to an older format, because my DVD player is old.  Preferably mpeg-2
[08:32] <yt766i> I know KDE has some tools, but I want a Gnome app.
[08:33] <Dominik> how can I check the size of my swap partition? and why does ubuntu say I am out of space when I try to hibernate?
[08:33] <ay^> hmms.. I just installed gsynaptics, but it wants me to set SHMConfig to True in xorg.conf, but in xorg.conf it just says that HAL is used, how do I enable this now?
[08:35] <yt766i> dominik; parted will tell you this.  I'd install gparted via sudo apt-get install gparted because it's graphical.  It'll show you the size, and let you adjust.
[08:35] <bloemkool> ziroday: anything special I need to do after installing the hamster-applet package through synaptic ?
[08:35] <atc-> Morning all. I'm trying to upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04 by using the Update Manager, but it's not showing the distribution upgrade button. I've ensured 'Normal' is set in the update tab of the settings for software sources, and upgraded everything, but I'm still not seeing the button. Any ideas?
[08:35] <bloemkool> because it still doesn't show up in the list of applets when I click 'Add to panel...' on the panel
[08:36] <atc-> I've read the ubuntu wiki for upgrade and followed the steps, as well as ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrade
[08:37] <b33r> atc-, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:37] <yt766i> bloemkool, I've run into that.  If it's listed in the menu, right-click and you should be able to add to panel.
[08:38] <atc-> b33r, I don't want to dist-upgrade becaues that causes issues and the update manager will deal with them for me. I want to do it as recommended so I have a working PC at the end of it. It's a work machine afterall
[08:38] <b33r> atc-, tried update-manager -d ?
[08:39] <atc-> b33r, not yet
[08:39] <milligan_> How much is changing to the intrepid repos and doing a dist upgrade going to mess up for me, when going from 8.04 ?
[08:39] <bloemkool> yt766i: sorry, what do you mean exactly by right-clicking ? where should I right click ?
[08:39] <b33r> atc-, well try =d
[08:40] <bloemkool> oh never mind, now it does show up in the list of applets
[08:40] <bloemkool> guess I needed to wait a little bit
[08:40] <yt766i> Mouse-over the menu entry if it's there, like you were going to run the prog.  Then right-click.  I had to do that with Thunderbird, as it wasn't in the Add to Panel opt.
[08:40] <Petester> hi... i find that firefox is sometimes laggy if there are a large amount of javascript on the webapge... any ideas how to fix it?
[08:40] <bloemkool> thanks for the help everyone
[08:41] <Pontifex> sup yall
[08:41] <Seaboy> how can I use envy to install my driver in console mode?\
[08:41] <jim_p> Seaboy: what driver exaclty?
[08:42] <lvm_problem> hello
[08:42] <lvm_problem> is there anyone who knows how to rescue a lvm volume group?
[08:43] <Administrator> ,,
[08:43] <atc-> b33r, you beauty :)
[08:43] <b33r> atc-, worked? =)
[08:43] <benovic> sudo apt-get obama
[08:43] <benovic> ah works!
[08:44] <atc-> b33r, seeing the button and upgrading now. thank you
[08:44] <b33r> atc-, cool
[08:44] <Seaboy> jim_p: geraphic driver for my nvidia geforce fx5500
[08:44] <atc-> b33r, <3
[08:44] <jim_p> can i make wget always download on the desktop?
[08:44] <jim_p> Seaboy: just install the nvidia-glx-legacy package from the repos
[08:45] <kelvin911> do i follow this page instruction to lower the swappiness ?? http://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_content/28224/How_to_tune_your_Ubuntu_PC_for_faster_performance_
[08:45] <jim_p> Seaboy: and dont mess with envy scripts and automations
[08:46] <Seaboy> Seaboy: I have problem with my desktop showing just a white screen, may it help? I,ve already installed 173 driver, and after some hours working with that, this happened
[08:47] <jim_p> kelvin911: swapiness is not that much of a gain. instead, try to remove junk you dont need like lvm
[08:47] <jim_p> Seaboy: do you use compiz?
[08:48] <Venin> is there no built in function in ubuntu that can disable touchpad while typing?
[08:49] <Seaboy>  jim_p: no, and I use kde
[08:50] <jim_p> Seaboy: kde4? kde4 had some bug with some nvidia driver
[08:50] <kelvin911> whats lvm?
[08:51] <Dominik> yt766i: gparted does not let me move or resize my partitions :(
[08:51] <jim_p> kelvin911: some app needed for raid arraid and the like. Logical Volume Manager
[08:51] <kelvin911> ?
[08:51] <Seaboy> jim_p: yes, I just want my desktop back, even with no nvidia driver, what should I do?
[08:51] <kelvin911> i just did swapoff -a
[08:51] <kelvin911> i think that will stop using swap
[08:52] <jim_p> Seaboy: let me think
[08:52] <Dominik> yt766i: is it possible that it does not let me resize/move them because more then half the disk is ntsf?
[08:52] <kelvin911> how to stop the os using swap in next reboot?
[08:52] <Petester> hey... does anybody else experience lag in firefox?
[08:52] <Dominik> me me me
[08:52] <abe3k> Hi, how do I check which kernel version I'm running from the terminal ?
[08:52] <ziroday> Seaboy: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and give us your graphics card
[08:52] <Dominik> Petester: I am disapointed by ff3
[08:53] <ziroday> abe3k: uname -a
[08:53] <jim_p> Seaboy: 8.10?
[08:53] <kelvin911> experience lag in firefox when closing it
[08:53] <abe3k> ziroday : thanks dude
[08:53] <Petester> Dominik: SO yu mean FF3 is the problem, not ubuntu?
[08:53] <Dominik> Petester: ya
[08:53] <mrpinky> hello :) has anybody here play "unreal tournament" (original version from 2000) on ubuntu? works, but very slow on compiz. i read the solution was "sudo X :1 -ac & DISPLAY=:1 ./ut" to start without xgl, with this i hear sound but black screen :(. "xgame" script gives me the same result :(
[08:53] <Petester> sigh, but im a hardcore fan of ff3... dont want to use opera.... lol
[08:53] <kelvin911> opera is way better
[08:53] <Dominik> petester: use ff2
[08:54] <ziroday> mrpinky: why don't you disable compiz whilst playing the game?
[08:54] <Seaboy> jim_p: yes
[08:54] <carpeliam> is it possible to set the refresh rate in the splash screen?
[08:54] <mrpinky> how to disable compiz? :)
[08:54] <Petester> oh ff2 is better?
[08:54] <Petester> alright i should try it
[08:54] <ziroday> !browsers | Petester
[08:54] <Dominik> petester: ya, the move to ff3 demands more ram and faster cpu
[08:54] <Petester> @kelvin911: except there are no addons on opera
[08:54] <ziroday> mrpinky: open a terminal and type in metacity --replaec
[08:54] <kelvin911> what addon?
[08:54] <Petester> addons that firefox support
[08:54] <kelvin911> opera already have all the features
[08:55] <carpeliam> eh, i thought ff3 was supposed to be much better with RAM
[08:55] <Petester> it does?
[08:55] <ziroday> mrpinky: or go to System > Preferences > Appearance > Effects > No Effects
[08:55] <mrpinky> ok i go and try that now, if everything goes quiet then "connection reset by peer", you know i had to ctrl+alt+bksp :)
[08:55] <Petester> @carpeliam: it is in windows
[08:55] <Petester> not ubuntu somehow
[08:55] <kelvin911> all those crap-on for ff, opera already have them
[08:55] <Dominik> carpeliam: yea so they say, but my ff2 is fast, ff3 is not, soo?
[08:55] <jim_p> Seaboy: there is thread here at a gtreek forum. the ir conclusion is to use the opensource nv driver and wait for nvidia for a fix
[08:56] <Dominik> kelvin911: that is not true, and they are not crapons
[08:56] <Petester> agreed with dominik
[08:56] <burkesbythebay> can someone help me with mounting ext partitions to the desktop.  I installed with a seperate home partition and 2 other storage partitions i would like these to display on my desktop.  my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/67810/
[08:56] <mrpinky> ziroday: wow, not only does that work for ut, but all the lag on my normal desktop applications is gone!
[08:56] <mrpinky> thanks :)
[08:56] <Seaboy> jim_p: so what exactly should I do? I mean in console mode
[08:57] <ziroday> mrpinky: great :), your computer must not have been able to take compiz
[08:57] <Dominik> compiz?
[08:57] <ziroday> !compiz | Dominik
[08:57] <mrpinky> i guess so :) ok game time, seeya later
[08:57] <ziroday> Dominik: the shiny effects you may be seeing on your desktop
[08:58] <jim_p> Seaboy: how does the new xorg in 8.10 configure itself? i am sure there is a tool somewhere. open it and select "nv" as the driver to use. you will lose any 3d acceleration though
[08:58] <Petester> compiz is the de best thing on ubuntu
[08:58] <jim_p> Petester: wrong!
[08:58] <carpeliam> if only video card drivers were decent enough to support it, it might be alright.
[08:58] <Petester> jim_p:
[08:58] <Petester> ?
[08:58] <gordonjcp> ah, that's better
[08:58] <gordonjcp> is there a way to get the CD burning software to be slightly more descriptive when it has a problem?
[08:58] <ziroday> Seaboy: jim_p: you can change the Driver "nvidia" line to Driver "nv" line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:59] <ziroday> gordonjcp: use a different cd burner?
[08:59] <ziroday> gordonjcp: software that is :)
[08:59] <Dominik> ok, I have very bad pc, so I want no effects, I suppose I don't want compiz then, but the problem is if you turn of the effects under preferences then you can no longer switch workspaces by scrolling your mouse wheel :(, which is the strongest feature of linux
[08:59] <gordonjcp> ziroday: what do you suggest?
[08:59] <carpeliam> ziroday, do you know if the xorg.conf settings apply to the splash screen at all? i know i can set my resolution in usplash.conf, but i'm having refresh rate problems
[09:00] <jim_p> Petester: are you on nvidia or something? ask an ati guy how he feels! the best thing in ubuntu 8.10 is the new kernel with the huge support for wireless and the like
[09:00] <Seaboy> Seaboy: i don't have access to any tool, I just can use console
[09:00] <ziroday> gordonjcp: err try k3b?
[09:00] <gordonjcp> ziroday: the "desktop" one just keeps asking me to put a disk in, and wodim just keeps asking me to put a disk in
[09:00] <gordonjcp> ziroday: what does k3b use for the cd burner backend?
[09:00] <jim_p> Seaboy: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[09:00] <Seaboy> ziroday: you mean just replacing the word nvidia with nv?
[09:00] <ziroday> gordonjcp: not sure, also see brasero
[09:00] <gordonjcp> ziroday: I suspect changing the front end won't help
[09:00] <Petester> yeah, im on nvidia
[09:00] <Petester> how does ati has to do with wireless?
[09:00] <ziroday> Seaboy: correct
[09:01] <jim_p> gordonjcp: cdrwtools i think is the backend
[09:01] <gordonjcp> ziroday: isn't brasero just another frontend?
[09:01] <gordonjcp> jim_p: ok
[09:01] <Seaboy> ziroday: Thanks, I'm gonna try it
[09:01] <ziroday> Seaboy: good luck :)
[09:01] <Petester> wow opera has no lag!
[09:02] <gordonjcp> hrm
[09:02] <gordonjcp> is it possible for an IDE CD writer to just plain not work with Linux?
[09:02] <ziroday> gordonjcp: reasonably impossible
[09:02] <jim_p> Petester: ati's fglrx are incompatible with corg v1.5 that 8.10 has. it just does not work!
[09:02] <jim_p> *xorg
[09:03] <ziroday> jim_p: I think you will find that only applies for _some_ dirvers
[09:03] <ziroday> *drivers
[09:03] <Petester> jim_p: Aw, that just sucks =(
[09:03] <jim_p> ziroday: that ati effect?
[09:03] <Petester> (i didn't mean any sarcasm)
[09:04] <ziroday> jim_p: only some cards don't work with the new xorg (the reasonably old ones) the others work just fine under the fglrx driver
[09:04] <Mahalo> That's what Pontios Pilat said
[09:04] <ziroday> Mahalo: do you have a question we can help you with?
[09:04] <Mahalo> Yup.
[09:04] <Mahalo> MSI in wine
[09:04] <jim_p> ziroday: thing is that fglrx does not work with xorg 1.5! sure, radeon and radeonhd drivers do work, but they do the ~20% of what fglrx can do in 3d
[09:05] <Mahalo> rather .msi in wine
[09:05] <ziroday> Mahalo: err you find it best to ask in #winehq, what program?
[09:05] <Mahalo> sitespinner
[09:05] <gordonjcp> ok, the problem is this: my CD drive will load and mount a CD just fine, and that works, but it cannot write to a CD - it just returns "no disk/wrong disk"
[09:05] <Mahalo> actually bought and paid fer
[09:05] <gordonjcp> is it possible that a given CD writer just doesn't work with Linux?
[09:05] <ziroday> jim_p: err I think you will find that the fglrx drivers run under xorg 1.5
[09:05] <Freku> maybe the disk is really wrong
[09:05] <kelvin911> so how to disable swap in fstab?
[09:06] <gordonjcp> Freku: tried several disks
[09:06] <kelvin911> do i just comment out that line?
[09:06] <gordonjcp> also, the CD writer works perfectly in NetBSD
[09:06] <Mahalo> I didn't try #winehq I tried their forums
[09:06] <gordonjcp> but dual-booting just so I can write CDs is a pain in the hindmost
[09:06] <Petester> so other than switching to opera or ff2, there is no way i can get rid of the lag?
[09:07] <ziroday> Petester: you can try a wide variety of other browsers out there if you are not happy with firefox
[09:07] <Mahalo> But I think I'd like to observe if it OK, I like to absorbe other issues to know how to take care of my own later.
[09:07] <Petester> i would have thought i can fix the lag with some tweaks in firefox
[09:07] <Mahalo> My issue is reallly slack
[09:07] <Petester> i didn't really want to use other browsers =(
[09:08] <deftone> Has anyone ever made a GRUB menu background before??
[09:09] <jxander> is getdeb.net going to provide packages for ubuntu 8.04.1 in the future now that Intrepid is out?
[09:09] <ziroday> jxander: we don't support getdeb here so we don't know. Ask them in #getdev
[09:09] <ziroday> jxander: sorry #getdeb
[09:09] <gordonjcp> so other than suggestions to change the pretty frontend, no-one's got any advice on sorting out the CD-ROM then?
[09:10] <jxander> ziroday, thanks, i didn't know about the channel...
[09:10] <Freku> maybe a rights problem ?
[09:10] <ziroday> jxander: no problem :)
[09:10] <gordonjcp> Freku: presumably if that was the case, then running wodim as root would work
[09:10] <Freku> yep
[09:10] <gordonjcp> Freku: in any case, I shouldn't need to mess about with permissions for it to work
[09:10] <tinybear> whois
[09:11] <tinybear> 8.10?
[09:11] <Freku> just try to google it  and rights came up
[09:11] <Freku> :)
[09:11] <Abracadabr4> hi /all
[09:11] <ziroday> tinybear: do you have a question we can help you with?
[09:11] <jim_p> ziroday: are you on ati AND fglrx on ubuntu 8.10?
[09:11] <ziroday> jim_p: unfortunately no, lemme go dig something up :)
[09:12] <ziroday> jim_p: see http://www.ubuntu.net/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#ATI%20%22fglrx%22%20video%20support
[09:13] <ziroday> jim_p: and see http://www.rebelzero.com/hardware/ubuntu-810-atiamd-fglrx-driver-updated/30
[09:13] <ziroday> jim_p: and you can ask the great people in #ubuntu-x as well :)
[09:13] <gordonjcp> Freku: it says there's no medium present - I don't see how permissions would cause that
[09:13] <gordonjcp> Freku: it works perfectly in NetBSD, so I'm guessing the drive is okay
[09:13] <jim_p> ziroday: wait there
[09:13] <ziroday> jim_p: yessir
[09:13] <ay^> gordonjcp: if you lack read-permissions it wouldnät notice the medium, I suppose
[09:14] <Freku> yeah  its a real strange 1
[09:14] <gordonjcp> ay^: if I run it as root, permissions shouldn't be a problem
[09:14] <Freku> tried it with a livecd yet ?
[09:14] <ay^> gordonjcp: oh that might be true..
[09:15] <gordonjcp> Freku: what's wrong with that picture?
[09:15] <Freku> lol
[09:15] <ay^> hehe
[09:15] <Freku> i shutting up now  :)
[09:15] <gordonjcp> Freku: think carefully now... ;-)
[09:15] <Cann0n> what is sit0 and wmaster0 in my ifconfig
[09:15] <ay^> have you tried it with a liveUSB?
[09:16] <stevej678> what the way to get Atheros AR242x 802.11abg going in hardy?
[09:16] <jim_p> ziroday: hmmmm when did ati fix it? this would be big news ! even bigger then the economical crisis
[09:16] <stevej678> just need some direction
[09:16] <ziroday> jim_p: a while before 8.10 was released :)
[09:17] <ziroday> Cann0n: for sit0 read http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/02/msg02537.html
[09:17] <stevej678> ndis wrapper?
[09:17] <jxander> ziroday, if i've checked the backports then will i get new releases of the packages i use even if i'm on 8.04.1? in fact, the question would be: will there be other official updates besides security updates for 8.04.1?
[09:17] <ziroday> jxander: sometimes, what packages are you looking for?
[09:17] <Cann0n> what is sit0 and wmaster0 in my ifconfig
[09:17] <Cann0n> b43
[09:17] <AdvoWork> Hi there, ive got a folder under Places Network which is a sftp location, i open a file from this within dreamweaver under wine,which opens fine. So i try and save it, yet rather than saving to where it should, its now listing it under say: /home/user/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/user/documents/then the file.tpl  any ideas why?
[09:17] <ziroday> Cann0n: and wmaster0 is probably your wireless card
[09:17] <Bullen> Hello
[09:18] <Cann0n> ziroday: what about wlan0?
[09:18] <Cann0n> why would i have two?
[09:18] <Bullen> I have a question, I just updated from hardy to intrepid, but while updating, the installer removed support for my wifi, it was previously autoconfigured when i installed hardy... what do i do to fix it? :)
[09:18] <smack_tat> why does running wireshark as root dangerous??????
[09:18] <Bullen> (noob question!!)
[09:18] <ziroday> Cann0n: see this forum thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=697807
[09:19] <jim_p> where are the gnome-session sattings stored?
[09:19] <jim_p> *settings
[09:19] <ziroday> Bullen: have you looked in err System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[09:19] <Mahalo> Dang, you folk are active!
[09:19] <ziroday> smack_tat: running any program as root is dangerous
[09:19] <Cann0n> im actually pretty tired of reading forums... no one has yet gave me a link to any kind of information other than a bunch of noobs bickering about ndiswrapper, when i dont even have ndiswrapper support in my kernel
[09:20] <smack_tat> can u descrbie the danger
[09:20] <smack_tat> what can it do?
[09:20] <Mahalo> This is great, I know where to shop when I need assistance. Thanks for doing what y'all are doing.
[09:20] <ziroday> smack_tat: it can potentially write to important system files doing horrible things to your computer
[09:20] <ay^> smack_tat: I'm only guessing here, but perhaps overwrite some settings for you connection
[09:21] <smack_tat> omg......
[09:21] <Cann0n> smack_tat: it's not that dangerous.
[09:21] <smack_tat> i am doing security and i am not aware of those dangers
[09:21] <Cann0n> it wont make your computer not boot the next time you shutdown
[09:21] <ay^> smack_tat: consider it impossible if not run as root, and possible when done as root
[09:21] <gordonjcp> oh, I give up
[09:22] <Cann0n> smack_tat: security in which sense? iptables/ipchains and nat?
[09:22] <ziroday> Cann0n: it can
[09:22] <smack_tat> ok!!!! got it
[09:22] <ay^> smack_tat: same with any app, say gedit, if you aint running it as root you CANNOT write to importan system files, while as root you can, doesn't mean you WILL
[09:22] <gordonjcp> evidently Linux won't work with this CD writer
[09:22] <gordonjcp> weird, but there you go
[09:22] <smack_tat> CAnnon: i'm idoing an infosecurity project
[09:22]  * DreadKnight @  anyone knows a good pixel font manager?
[09:22] <Cann0n> ziroday: now why would have i two wifi interfaces if one doesnt work, and it never popped up until i compiled <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:22] <ay^> gordonjcp: does it work with a live environment?
[09:22]  * DreadKnight @  anyone knows a good pixel font creator* ?
[09:22] <gordonjcp> ay^: I have no way of knowing
[09:23] <ziroday> Cann0n: did you read the forum thread I sent you?
[09:23] <Cann0n> smack_tat: type can and then hit the tab button. thats called tab completion
[09:23] <smack_tat> while i learn about network sniffing, i try to encrpt messegers
[09:23] <gordonjcp> ay^: 1) how would I boot from a live cd then burn a cd, and 2) how would I burn the livecd in the first place?
[09:23] <smack_tat> ok
[09:23] <ay^> gordonjcp: you dont ;P
[09:23] <ziroday> DreadKnight: possibly http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/
[09:23] <gordonjcp> ay^: well there you go then
[09:23] <ay^> gordonjcp: you put the environment on a USB-stick instaed
[09:23] <gordonjcp> ay^: haven't got a big enough one
[09:24] <ay^> gordonjcp: w00t it only needs like 1gb
[09:24] <jxander> ziroday, many, vlc for example... i asked on getdeb, but they didn't answer, so i was hoping that at some point, the official ubuntu repositories would get a newer version of vlc...
[09:24] <zajca_> hi, I need help with mpd, i can't see database in any client. nothing in log. mdp.db look's OK.
[09:24] <gordonjcp> ay^: I don't have USB sticks, they're just not something I use
[09:24] <ay^> gordonjcp: what a shame ;P
[09:24] <ziroday> jxander: there is new version in 8.10, 8.04 will not recieve updates to those programs as it goes against the entire 6 month release idea
[09:24] <gordonjcp> ay^: what difference would booting from a live environment make anyway?
[09:25] <ay^> gordonjcp: so the only other choice is to boot the livecd from your hdd
[09:25] <DreadKnight> ziroday: thanks, already installed that... will give it a try, not sure if it's for pixel fonts...
[09:25] <ay^> gordonjcp: well it might be that during the install, some error snuck in.
[09:25] <ziroday> DreadKnight: ah sorry, not very familiar with fonts. Possibly the people in #ubuntu-art might know
[09:25] <ay^> gordonjcp: I've had that happen to my wifi once, worked great in live didn't work in installed
[09:25] <BuFF> ; d
[09:26] <jxander> ziroday, thanks... that's the answer i was looking for...
[09:26] <Cann0n> ziroday: yeah i did but it didn't tell me anything
[09:26] <gordonjcp> ay^: worth a shot I suppose
[09:26] <DreadKnight> ziroday: thanks for the suggestion, will ask there as well :-)
[09:26] <zajca_> hi, I need help with mpd, i can't see database in any client. nothing in log. mdp.db look's OK.
[09:26] <Freku> maybe borrow a 2nd drive from a friend ?
[09:26] <gordonjcp> ay^: right, well, I'll go and get a USB drive then
[09:26] <Cann0n> only reason im in here is because it's 4:27 my time and all my regular chans are dead... and it's driving me crazy
[09:26] <gordonjcp> ay^: I know the drive works perfectly
[09:27] <ziroday> Cann0n: is your wireless not working?
[09:27] <Cann0n> links to forums suck. the one you send me, they mostly talked about some dude who had been away for a while... ziroday
[09:27] <Cann0n> ziroday: im on wifi...
[09:27] <Spatman> Some one Run World of warcraft on ubutnuu?
[09:27] <ziroday> Cann0n: I am going to PM you the relevant section of the forum post I gave you
[09:27] <ay^> gordonjcp: you could boot it off of your hdd as well
[09:27] <Cann0n> on using b43 driver on a broadcom 4306 chipset, with <IP_ADDRESS> kernel, on wlan0 interface
[09:28] <smack_tat> Spatman, yup i did and it is stable but still not at windows level
[09:28] <ziroday> The wmaster0 device is what we call the master device. The master device is an internal master device used only by mac80211. It should be ignored by users. If possible we will try to hide it from users later.
[09:28] <ramontayag> on ibex, when my desktop fx are on, i yakuake doesn't seem to display the bottom-most line properly. it's as if it updates only sometimes. ubuntu is fully updated and upgraded. what should I do to fix this? if I can't, is there a good alternative to yakuake that you recommend?
[09:28] <ay^> gordonjcp: tho I have to go to now, but there are ways at least.
[09:28] <ziroday> Cann0n: woops. please read ^^^
[09:28] <Cann0n> so this is a new kernel feature then?
[09:29] <ziroday> Cann0n: err not, its setup by the driver.
[09:29] <Cann0n> but b43 never brought wmaster0 until after i compiled a new kernel
[09:30] <ziroday> Cann0n: then contact the b43 authors and ask them about it
[09:30] <^andrea^> Hi everyone, I just installed the SAMBA server under Hardy, it works pretty well... the unique problem is that it does not start on boot, any idea? thanks (PS: I didn't find any advice about this under hardy)
[09:31] <DreadKnight> good
[09:31] <ziroday> !boot | andreaja_
[09:31] <ziroday> woops, ^andrea^ please read ^^
[09:31] <Cann0n> i guess this was the wrong place to come for help
[09:32] <DreadKnight> cover me
[09:32] <ramontayag> the solutions I use to use on hardy to automatically mount disks are no longer working on ibex. what can I do to automatically mount disks?
[09:32] <Cann0n> ziroday: so, what is a .conf?
[09:32] <vhellmet> I removed kernel 2.6.26-7.15 and installed 2.6.26-7.14 .. Now I can only boot from 2.6.26-4 .. How do I add GRUB options for the Kernel 2.6.26-7.14 ?
[09:32] <Spatman> Some one Run World of warcraft on ther ubuntu? how do it work?
[09:32] <ziroday> Cann0n: a config file...
[09:32] <ziroday> Spatman: one second please
[09:32] <lianimator1> Spatman: probably with wine
[09:33] <ziroday> vhellmet: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst however the options should have been added automatically
[09:33] <^andrea^> Ok, I'm gonna read there... thanks...
[09:33] <Cann0n> so, sit0 is a tunneling interface right? so wouldn't that cause virsues?
[09:33] <Cann0n> virii or what ever they are
[09:33] <^andrea^> Cann0n: Were you talking to me? and in case, why wrong place? :-|
[09:33] <vhellmet> ziroday, they weren't .. I didn't do it from updates.. I did it using Synaptic PM
[09:33] <The-Croupier> Cann0n , malware you mean
[09:33]  * The-Croupier hides
[09:34] <Cann0n> The-Croupier: thats the stuff
[09:34] <Cann0n> wouldn't sit0 cause people to hack me?
[09:34]  * chopp hacks Cann0n
[09:34] <vhellmet> ziroday, also, when I edit the menu at boot and put in -7.14 or -7 instead of -4 it doesn't work. It stops at "Waiting for root"
[09:34] <Cann0n> if it is used for tunnelling?
[09:34] <ziroday> Cann0n: err no. If you read the link I gave you it just tunnels IPV6 to IPV4 or something like that
[09:35] <ziroday> vhellmet: sorry, I am slightly lost. Why are you changing the boot options?
[09:36] <vhellmet> ziroday, coz I can't seem to boot into the new kernel
[09:36] <AdvoWork> Hi there, ive got a folder under Places Network which is a sftp location, i open a file from this within dreamweaver under wine,which opens fine. So i try and save it, yet rather than saving to where it should, its now listing it under say: /home/user/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/user/documents/then the file.tpl  any ideas why?
[09:36] <ziroday> vhellmet: okay. any error messages?
[09:37] <ziroday> Spatman: see http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14154
[09:37] <siccness> join #ubuntu-au
[09:37] <siccness> whoops
[09:37] <vhellmet> 2.6.27-7 stops at Waiting for root file system
[09:37] <Cann0n> how do i get my webcam working on ubuntu?
[09:37] <bitwiseshiftleft> question: so i have this broken package in apt... it won't install and won't uninstall, and carps at me everytime i do anything in teh package manager
[09:37] <siccness> forgot the forward slash, apologies.
[09:37] <The-Croupier> siccness: yes we know
[09:37] <bitwiseshiftleft> so, how can i tell apt/dpkg/whatever to just forget that it ever existed?
[09:38] <siccness> I don't care if you know.
[09:38] <The-Croupier> i dont care if you forgot the slash either :P
[09:38] <siccness> Stiff.
[09:38] <vhellmet> ziroday, 2.6.27-7 stops at Waiting for root file system
[09:38] <maalaghorn_> irc://irc.freenode.net/limesurvey
[09:38] <siccness> vhellmet: have fun with that.
[09:38] <ziroday> vhellmet: not sure sorry
[09:39] <vhellmet> siccness, eh?
[09:39] <vhellmet> ziroday, thanks for trying
[09:40] <Cann0n> how do i get the cube to work?
[09:40] <bazhang> !ccsm | Cann0n
[09:40] <jxander> is there a way to make audacity and songbird for example sound together? or any other two apps use the sound together? game and audio player?
[09:41] <Cann0n> how to i install it? its not in add/remove
[09:41] <ziroday> jxander: using pulseaudio?
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> !software | Cann0n
[09:41] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install packagename Cann0n
[09:42] <^andrea^> jxander: I had the same problem, I partially solved it with PulseAudio...
[09:42] <Venin> how do i keep the same time in windows and in ubuntu?
[09:42] <Venin> im doing dual boot
[09:42] <Cann0n> thats a clever short cut. i guess so many amateur users come in here, automatic help makes things move better huh
[09:42] <sint> hey, i've tried to install the newer ati driver and now my X is broken. why is there almost nothing written into xorg.conf in 8.10? this puzzles me! is there a new config file for X?
[09:42] <jxander> ziroday, i know that audacity doesn't support pulseaudio, but i was wondering for other apps... is pulse audio the only way?
[09:43] <Cann0n> Venin: sync it to your hardward clock
[09:43] <Venin> i think i did that
[09:43] <^andrea^> jxander: but some application still conflict (like skype)
[09:43] <jxander> ^andrea^, yeah... partially... but is there a way to make it fully compatible?
[09:43] <Venin> but it still changes the clock in windows
[09:43] <The-Croupier> windows?
[09:43] <ziroday> jxander: not that I know off, besides playing both apps at the same time
[09:43] <jxander> ^andrea^, indeed
[09:43] <henkpoley> During 8.04->8.10 upgrade my gnome window decoration disappeared, what can I restart to get that back for the session ?
[09:44] <perlmonkey> hi guys
[09:44] <ziroday> henkpoley: were you using emerald?
[09:44] <henkpoley> ziroday:  might be
[09:44] <perlmonkey> I'm getting my mailbox bombed every 20 mins with  Cron Daemon msg: /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: 1248: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: not found
[09:44] <Cann0n> which is it that makes me so i can use windows programs on the ubuntu? sorry for asking so many questions. im new and just trying to set it all up before i have to travel to london
[09:44] <perlmonkey> how to disable? do i need sendmail
[09:44] <hateball> henkpoley» emerald --replace &, or metacity --replace &, depending which you use
[09:44] <ziroday> henkpoley: can you open a terminal up and type emerald --replace
[09:44] <henkpoley> I haven't done much with this sytem in a year
[09:44] <Venin> Cann0n: i ran this command : sudo hwclock --localtime; sudo hwclock --systohc
[09:45] <ziroday> Cann0n: wine
[09:45] <henkpoley> Recently updated it to hardy for a linux based programming course
[09:45] <ziroday> !wine | Cann0n
[09:45] <Cann0n> Venin: i dont know, i haven't used windows since ME first came out
[09:45] <deftone> Has anyone ever made their own grub menu background before??
[09:46] <jxander> ziroday, ok... got it, no chance... but why is it so weird for 2 apps to use sound at the same time... bloody windoze can do it... is it really hard to implement, or not all the apps support the same sound systems? is that it?
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> deftone: yeah
[09:46] <ziroday> jxander: sound is a bit of a mess, what two apps are you trying to play sound with?
[09:47] <^andrea^> jxander: I think there is a chance... for example now my application sound well together, just skype can't...
[09:47] <henkpoley> ziroday: no focus to the terminal :-P
[09:47] <Venin> how do i keep the same time in windows and in ubuntu? it keeps changing in windows
[09:47] <Cann0n> so, is there any other guis other than gnome thingy?
[09:48] <^andrea^> jxander: *my applicationSSSS
[09:48] <ziroday> Cann0n: many, kde is a popular o
[09:48] <ziroday> *one
[09:48] <jxander> ziroday, i just want to be able to listen to music with songbird and play xmoto, urban terror, or anything else :)
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> Cann0n: a few hundred, yes.
[09:48] <nmh-j2graw> jxander: what are you trying to do? and what is your setup?
[09:48]  * The-Croupier doesnt like kde
[09:48] <enquest> is there a freesoftware app for webprototyping?
[09:48] <nmh-j2graw> enquest: like ruby on rails?
[09:49] <enquest> no to plan a website
[09:49] <Cann0n> what is kde?
[09:49] <DreadKnight> Cann0n: Kool desktop Environment
[09:49] <ziroday> !kde > Cann0n
[09:49] <netyire> !kde
[09:49] <DreadKnight> Cann0n: an alternate to GNOME
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> Venin: edit /etc/default/rcS, change "UTC=" to no.
[09:49] <nmh-j2graw> enquest: gimp / inkscape / dia / xfig
[09:50] <jxander> nmh-j2graw, software or hardware setup?
[09:50] <Cann0n> thats neato burrito. linux ubuntu haves two guis
[09:50] <ziroday> Cann0n: err as tonyyarusso said, there are hundreds
[09:50] <nmh-j2graw> jxander: hmmm... well, what soundcard do you have, and what software?
[09:50] <Venin> tonyyarusso: ty.. will try
[09:50] <nmh-j2graw> jxander: are you using a sound daemon?
[09:50] <The-Croupier> i read somewhere that linux is a version of ubuntu is that true
[09:50] <Cann0n> i hear something about travelocity
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> The-Croupier: no.
[09:50] <The-Croupier> why what is wrong
[09:50] <Balachmar> Hi is anyone else having trouble with hotmail? My gf uses it and see can read email, however, the email editor doesn't work it stays inactive.
[09:51] <^andrea^> jxander: I followed a tutorial to solve the problem with PulseAudio but it's in italian... if you understand italian I give the link, otherwise it'd be useless... :-|
[09:51] <nmh-j2graw> The-Croupier: ubuntu is a linux distribution (gnu/linux to some)
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> The-Croupier: Linux is the kernel.  Ubuntu is a distribution that combines the Linux kernel with GNU utilities, GNOME, and various other software like Firefox, with some customizations along the way.
[09:51] <Cann0n> then wahts unix?
[09:51] <jxander> nmh-j2graw, i use a dell inspiron 6400 lappy with a sigmatel stac92xx and i'm using pulseaudio...
[09:51] <netyire> !unix
[09:52] <The-Croupier> so unix came from linux
[09:52] <jxander> ^andrea^, sure, please... i remember a bit from highschool :P
[09:52] <Cann0n> 1972 i think
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> The-Croupier: No, Linux didn't exist until 1991.
[09:52] <gordonjcp> The-Croupier: other way round
[09:52] <Cann0n> but then how tome Unix Time starts jan 1 of 1970?
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> gordonjcp: not that either.
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> Linux was made to be similar in many ways to Unix, but isn't derived from it.
[09:52] <perlmonkey> I'm getting my mailbox bombed every 20 mins with  Cron Daemon msg: /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: 1248: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: not found
[09:53] <The-Croupier> what do  you mean not derived from it
[09:53] <perlmonkey> is it safe to remove sendmail?
[09:53] <^andrea^> jxander: hehe, if you wanna try... http://www.oneopensource.it/04/11/2008/ubuntu-810-sfruttare-pulseaudio/
[09:53] <Cann0n> tonyyarusso: what year did linux come out in?
[09:53] <BrokenPeace> is this computer history 101.....Read a book
[09:53] <siccness> Cann0n: 93
[09:53] <siccness> iirc
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> The-Croupier: I mean they do not share any code, so it can't be said that Linux was a fork or anything from Unix.
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> Cann0n: 1991.
[09:53] <jxander> ^andrea^, i have no choice :P
[09:53] <Cann0n> siccness: thats the year Slackware came out. :P
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> We should continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic though.
[09:53] <siccness> It doesn't matter, UNIX is superior.
[09:54] <siccness> THere's nothing better than IBM's AIX.
[09:54] <The-Croupier> siccness: why is that
[09:54] <Cann0n> siccness: then why aren't you on slackware?
[09:54] <nmh-j2graw> jxander: so the problem you have is that only one program can play sound at a time?
[09:54] <^andrea^> jxander: ask in a private chat if you need help...
[09:54] <siccness> I'm on Windows, Cann0n
[09:54] <jxander> nmh-j2graw, yeah...
[09:54] <siccness> The-Croupier: VIO/LPAR/DLPAR/APAR
[09:54] <jxander> ^andrea^, thanks :D
[09:54] <siccness> That's why.
[09:54] <siccness> Power6
[09:54] <Cann0n> siccness: then why are you in #ubuntu and using windows?
[09:54] <granden> Hi, if I would like to connect through my 3G mobile phone, an Sony Ericsson W890i would that be possible in ubuntu? I only found some guide using an Nokia.
[09:54] <siccness> Cann0n: because Jesus told me to.
[09:55] <Cann0n> im pegan
[09:55] <The-Croupier> in some countries thay dont believe in jesus
[09:55] <netyire> Jesus loves everyone, even ppl who use windows
[09:55] <The-Croupier> or ubuntu
[09:55] <siccness> The-Croupier: That's not specific to countries.
[09:55] <Cann0n> well, im new to linux
[09:55] <splitz> Hi. i nead some help with my mouse. ist a mx518. sidebuttons works in FF but not in nautilus. i have tryed to google it but cant finde annything.  annyone have a solutin for this?
[09:55] <jxander> nmh-j2graw, i'll try something from what ^andrea^ gave me and then i'll give you more details...
[09:56] <siccness> splitz: I have a solution but you're not going to like it
[09:56] <splitz> that is?
[09:56] <maxime_> hello !
[09:56] <siccness> Don't use the sidebuttons.
[09:56] <Guest99304> ls
[09:56] <Cann0n> no, with this apt-get mouse driver thing, how do i get up wheel mouse?
[09:56] <henkpoley> granden: most mobile phones with bluetooth expose a 'modem', just try browsing it with some bluetooth tools
[09:56] <maxime_> the Free Si
[09:56] <splitz> well i kind of need it.
[09:57] <siccness> You don't kind of need it, you wan't it.
[09:57] <angy221> HELLO
[09:57] <nmh-j2graw> jxander: sounds good - I am not familiar with pulseaudio, but one thing I saw was "turn it off"
[09:57] <siccness> *want
[09:57] <nmh-j2graw> I don't know if that will do much for you
[09:57] <angy221> !LIST
[09:57] <granden> henkpoley: Ok, I guess I have to check it out then. Havent bought the laptop yet, I first need to know if itt would work.
[09:57] <henkpoley> angy221: YOUR CAPS LOCK IS BROKEN
[09:57] <splitz> i need it to be more productive when i work...
[09:58] <angy221> ciao
[09:58] <Cann0n> is it ok to have root and be in here?
[09:58] <angy221> !list
[09:58] <henkpoley> granden: does your phone have bluetooth? And do people use it for internet sharing on windows or OS X ?
[09:58] <perlmonkey> is sendmail actually needed
[09:58] <^andrea^> nmh-j2graw: I don't know what jxander's problem is, but that tutorial solved my problem under hardy...
[09:58] <Cann0n> how do i turn off passwords for my user? that gets annoying
[09:58] <jxander> nmh-j2graw, you mean bypass pulseaudio? i've heard that is necessary for audacity to work
[09:58] <Cann0n> im trying to set up mouse wheel
[09:58] <maxime_> the launch of the Free Software Awards " Trophées du Libre 2009"
[09:58] <granden> henkpoley: I dont know if it works with internet sharing with bluetooth but I used it with cable on Windows
[09:58] <jxander> ^andrea^, reading it... i still got it :P
[09:58] <henkpoley> granden: then you ought to get it to work
[09:58] <granden> And yes it got bluetooth.
[09:58] <The-Croupier> being root and be anywhere is not nice... but whatever works for you
[09:58] <nmh-j2graw> ^andrea^: well, if it worked, that should be good
[09:59] <henkpoley> granden: err dunno about cables though
[09:59] <granden> Ok
[09:59] <granden> I would not mind using bluetooth but ain't that a bit slow for 3G?
[09:59] <siccness> Cann0n: im root everywhere
[09:59] <granden> HDSPA*
[09:59] <siccness> I wouldn't be concerned
[09:59] <^andrea^> nmh-j2graw: afak just skype does not like PulseAudio at all...
[09:59] <Cann0n> siccness: you don't make user?
[09:59] <jxander> ^andrea^, i might forgotten to install one of the packets... who knows... checking :)
[09:59] <nmh-j2graw> ^andrea^: oh, well I don't like skype, so I don't worry about that
[09:59] <siccness> Got better things to do than make users
[10:00] <^andrea^> nmh-j2graw: of course I didn't try all the software in the world... ;-)
[10:00] <maxime_> http://www.trophees-du-libre.org
[10:00] <jim_p> anyone good at torrents?
[10:00] <Cann0n> siccness: for how man months have you used linux?
[10:00] <siccness> Since 1999
[10:00] <siccness> so whatever year we're in now
[10:00] <jim_p> what ports do i have to open? 6881 to 6889 is not good enough
[10:00] <grizzancs> it is 2015.
[10:01] <The-Croupier> jim_p: open them all
[10:01] <The-Croupier> its 2090
[10:01] <Cann0n> siccness: do you understand the concept of making a user versus using root all the time?
[10:01] <siccness> No, please inform me young wise man.
[10:02] <siccness> I assumed that all users contained the same priveleges regardless of their name!
[10:02] <henkpoley> granden: you could try on your current system
[10:02] <siccness> Oh no, what have I been doing wrong for these last 9 years!?!?!
[10:02] <jim_p> grizzancs, The-Croupier: 2015 to 2090? i think isp block these
[10:02] <Cann0n> siccness: are you use you use linux?
[10:02] <Cann0n> sure*
[10:02] <Neaai> Why is it that after every reboot, the ethernet looses configuration? It always reverts to DHCP configuration.
[10:02] <siccness> I think so, I mean, I dunno, am i?!?!?
[10:02] <chopp> tard alert
[10:02] <Tyrath> I have this problem where when I plug in my AC adapter it shuts the comp off. Does anyone have a fix?
[10:02] <siccness> Neaai: save the configuration might be a solid starting point
[10:03] <Cann0n> if i recall right, being in root all the time can be dangerous....
[10:03] <granden> henkpoley: I dont know really if it would work I'm using Slackware on through VMWare.  How can I fix this or perform it automatically?
[10:04] <Neaai> siccness: no there's not. there's only "OK" and "cancel"
[10:04] <The-Croupier> and open only that
[10:04] <Cann0n> slackware > ubuntu = death > windows
[10:04] <granden> But I get a ubuntu live disc and try it on my macbook. I could get the normal i386 version for my macbook right?
[10:04] <chopp> is slackware a ubuntu fork?
[10:04] <Cann0n> siccness: i dont understand how you give help yet know little about basic linux security.
[10:04] <Cann0n> no
[10:04] <granden> chopp: No
[10:05] <deftone> Anyone ever make a Grub menu background ??
[10:05] <lianimator1> The-Croupier: I've configured transmission to use 6881 to 6889 and firestarter to open those. I think I'm fine.
[10:05] <Tyrath> how close is ubuntu to linux? like does it just use shell or is it actually really alike?
[10:05] <Cann0n> Slackware and Ubuntu should never EVER be in the same sentence, unless the sentence is "Slackware is better than Ubuntu"
[10:05] <siccness> Cann0n: I don't either, I must be guessing!
[10:05] <Tyrath> and don't give me the, its a lsb stuff
[10:05] <granden> Cann0n: :D
[10:05] <Tyrath> :P
[10:05]  * Tyrath has never used linux so can
[10:05] <Tyrath> -t compare
[10:05] <nmh-j2graw> what is this crazyness?
[10:06] <Tyrath> 't compare
[10:06] <maxime_> We are delighted to announce the launch of the "Trophées du Logiciel libre" (called TL09 for free software development) on October 15th, 2008 and should be closed by the winning ceremony around the second quarter of 2009.
[10:06] <iLLf8d> got a quick gnomer question I know its offtopic and for a deblike dist but is there a way to startup pidkin w/out using xession or the like at the start of a gnome login?
[10:06] <Tyrath> maxime_: grats :D
[10:06] <iLLf8d> pidgin even
[10:06]  * Tyrath should join the cause and develop some software but only knows java :/
[10:07] <iLLf8d> got too many pikmins on the brain I guess =P
[10:07] <Tyrath> oh... and vb
[10:07] <Tyrath> but vb doesn't count :P
[10:07] <maxime_> www.trophees-du-libre.org
[10:07] <Tyrath> and I know ASP and PHP but you can't program with those too :/
[10:07] <maxime_> just free licence
[10:08] <cabrini> how do I make file browser have root permissions?
[10:08] <maxime_> chmod
[10:08] <Tyrath> cabrini: chmod +xwr foldnername
[10:08] <siccness> cabrini: gksudo nautilus
[10:09] <maxime_> you can
[10:09] <lianimator1> iLLf8d: why won't you use session? how about rc.local?
[10:09] <Tyrath> does anyone use elinks? or fbgs?
[10:09] <Tyrath> - or anything console related
[10:10] <Tyrath> - actually forget the last question
[10:10] <Tyrath> it's a stupid question
[10:10] <grizzancs> :))
[10:10] <Tyrath> so does anyone use elinks or fbgs?
[10:10] <iLLf8d> I'm just lookin for some gnome bloat that they've designed to launch this crap
[10:10] <lianimator1> cabrini: gksudo nautilus
[10:10] <lianimator1> hello? is my net hanging?
[10:10] <Tyrath> grizzancs: do you use fbgs?
[10:11] <grizzancs> no, i don't even know what fbgs is
[10:11] <iLLf8d> guess I'll have to do it from sys->prefs->sessins
[10:11]  * Tyrath is seriously considering sticking to console mode given the comp doesn't seem to randomly boot off in console mode
[10:11] <Pest> i have problem with Simple Compiz Config Settings Manager can anyone help ? :(
[10:12] <Tyrath> iLLf8d: what do you want to do?
[10:12] <Tyrath> Pest: what's up?
[10:12] <nmh-j2graw> Pest: use the compiz-config-manager
[10:12] <Tyrath> Pes: System -> Pregs -> Compiz
[10:12] <iLLf8d> just fire off pidgin I'll add it in there
[10:12] <Pest>  i was playing with  Simple Compiz Config Settings Manager and on Accessibility  i click on Zoom (something) and the monitor just flash and log me off...when i try to log in (50 times) the monitor only flash and log me off again
[10:12] <Cann0n> does compiz serve a purpose?
[10:13] <Tyrath> Cann0n: it's good for key binds :D
[10:13] <siccness> I use elinks
[10:13] <iLLf8d> hopefully it wont start it till xwindows fires  up
[10:13] <Tyrath> Cann0n: I can't use it for much else tho cause my nvidia drivers failed :/
[10:13] <cabrini>  I have to type ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> every time the network is started. How can I fix this or perform it automatically?
[10:13] <siccness> mutt+elinks+irssi+ncmpc = winning combination
[10:13] <netyire> Cann0n: it's like christmas tree lights
[10:13] <Cann0n> Tyrath: don't the gui's have keybinding features?
[10:13] <Tyrath> siccness: how can I set up elinks to use javascript?
[10:13] <Pest> now i`m using LiveCD and i can access the system folder of the program but i don`t know how to change the settings
[10:13] <Tyrath> Cann0n: they do. but I can bind to folders for example using compiz
[10:14] <Tyrath> Cann0n: that's really the only thing I'm using it for atm but it is conveniant
[10:14] <siccness> iirc, ubuntu packages elinks with javascript
[10:14] <sken> Hello ubu guys
[10:14] <siccness> you can test this by doing: elinks --version
[10:14] <Cann0n> Tyrath: seems like a waste of resources
[10:14] <iLLf8d> brb
[10:14] <siccness> it'll state whether or not elinks was compiled with js support
[10:14] <Tyrath> Cann0n: well if there was something else I'd prob use that. But also compiz makes things look nice if your graphic drivers are working
[10:15] <carrera> when try installing a .deb package by clicking on it, "Package Installer" complains of another software management tool running. But I don't see Update Manager, Aptitude or Synaptic in my process list
[10:15] <Tyrath> !iirc
[10:15] <Seaboy> please help me get my desktop back, I just have a white screen after logging in
[10:15] <Seaboy> please help me get my desktop back, I just have a white screen after logging in
[10:15] <m0niker> hello sken
[10:15] <siccness> Tyrath: might be worth looking at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/elinks/+bug/64031
[10:15] <Tyrath> Seaboy: try console mode: Ctrl + Alt + 1
[10:16] <m0niker> are you trying to boot it in the sea?
[10:16] <Seaboy> Tyrath: what should I do in console mode?
[10:17] <Cann0n> Tyrath: compiz + emerald or what. last i heard, compiz doesn't make any gui changes as far as decor
[10:17] <Tyrath> siccness: that's I will. I'm not in the mood for downloading another IRC client tho. I quite like Irssi. Especially given I'm now binded all my keys and everything to the way I like it
[10:17] <Seaboy> m0niker: what?
[10:17] <m0niker> sorry
[10:17] <siccness> irssi is the only decent irc client under Linux anyway
[10:17] <siccness> but definitely setup mpd + ncmpc
[10:17] <m0niker> irssi?
[10:17] <siccness> that's a killer setup
[10:17] <Tyrath> Cann0n: little tweaks, like the mac application switcher, a different maximise feature
[10:17] <Seaboy> m0niker: no problem
[10:18] <Cann0n> Tyrath: is ubuntu your first distro?
[10:18] <msshams> how can i change fonts of all slides used in a presentation in openoffice?
[10:18] <Tyrath> siccness: I did install spidermonkey but yeh, no luck :/
[10:18] <Pest> can anyone tell me how to change the Accessibility setting of Simple Compiz Config Settings Manager  manual from settings file ? :(
[10:18] <Tyrath> Cann0n: distro of what? of linux? -yes
[10:18] <siccness> Tyrath: elinks needs to be compiled with the javascript support
[10:18] <Tyrath> siccness: so i've got to use source :/
[10:19] <siccness> but it appears that the ubuntu crew have decided against it due to how crappy javascript is
[10:19] <siccness> Tyrath: yeah
[10:19] <hardy> lu
[10:19] <Tyrath> siccness: is there no way to configure settings?
[10:19] <siccness> Well when it's compiled with elinks
[10:19] <raulzan> hi all
[10:19] <m0niker> ircssi looks nice.
[10:19] <hardy> je suis francais sos
[10:19] <siccness> there's actually an option in the settings to turn javascript off
[10:19] <Cann0n> Tyrath: some advice is to disable things you dont use, or can find lighter weight alternatives for. it increased performance
[10:19] <siccness> so to be dead honest with you
[10:19] <siccness> im not sure why it hasn't been compiled with it
[10:20] <raulzan> can you tell me what's the problem of the c++? my prof sayd that c++ has a problem.. I don't remember the name, it's similar to "coldblow" or "coolblow". He sayd about it that it's a sort of explosion of the code.. do you know it? what's its name?
[10:20] <Tyrath> Cann0n: yeh. high graphics mode tends to have a fair effect on resources. I just delete things I don't want using apt or synaptic
[10:20] <hardy> personne parle francais
[10:20] <belim> i am having a few issues with display management. I am running on a Dell E6500 laptop and when plugging in a vga monitor or dvi one using the docking station it doest work well at all! the external display is really glitchy and unusable!
[10:20] <Neaai> !fr
[10:20] <lianimator> I've opened the ports 6881-6889 in firestarter. but transmission says 6881 is closed. what to do?
[10:20] <hardy> merci
[10:20] <Seaboy> any help? I don't have my desktop for a whole day
[10:20] <Tyrath> hardy: je pense que tu doit aller au #ubuntu-fr
[10:21] <nmh-j2graw> raulzan: try asking in a a c++ channel?
[10:21] <pickknic> hardy: allez a #ubuntu-fr
[10:21] <siccness> turn off firestarter/clear iptables would be a good start
[10:21] <m0niker> what do you do different? seaboy
[10:21] <raulzan> nmh-j2graw: there is nobody
[10:21]  * Tyrath wishes he could find a remedy for bugs himself
[10:21] <Neaai> Seaboy: does that happen for other users in your system ?
[10:21] <Cann0n> belim: make sure you know what you are doing. if you plug a CRT monitor in, you could break the monitor
[10:21] <Tyrath> does anyone else have anacron issues?
[10:22] <belim> Cann0n: its a LCD mate
[10:22] <nmh-j2graw> raulzan: maybe the question needs more background to make sense
[10:22] <Cann0n> ah, what drivers are you using?
[10:22] <belim> who would still be using CRT? :p
[10:22] <Tyrath> actually does anyone elses comp shut off when their battery power is low and they plug in an AC adapter
[10:22] <raulzan> uhm yep
[10:22] <siccness> belim: me until a week ago
[10:22] <siccness> went from 15" crt to 24" LCD
[10:23] <Dominik> belim: ill never give up my CRT, variable resolution...
[10:23] <Cann0n> belim: plenty of people use them. i have 4 or  5 laying around
[10:23] <belim> Cann0n: I dont know, I havent changed any drivers from standard. Its in integrated Intel X4500 gfx chip. so not brilliant!
[10:23] <Tyrath> Cann0n: personally I don't really care that much for graphics. but if I'm going to use a GUI I like it to look good. Also I have proxy issues and the like when I use browsers and the like designed for shell
[10:23] <Cann0n> Tyrath: so that is why u use compiz?
[10:23] <belim> ok I stand corrected about the CRT's! :D
[10:23] <Tyrath> Cann0n: stuff that set HTTP_PROXY won't fix :/
[10:24] <siccness> CRTs are fine
[10:24] <Cann0n> belim: recompile a kernel specifically for your system.
[10:24] <siccness> heaps of people still use them
[10:24] <Tyrath> Cann0n: nope just for key binds
[10:24] <Tyrath> Cann0n: and I can't be bothered finding and installing a lite version
[10:24] <Seaboy> Neaai: there is no other user. how can create another to check?
[10:24] <Cann0n> Tyrath: why not use .Xmodmap?
[10:24] <belim> Cann0n: Ok I will do! :)
[10:25] <Tyrath> Cann0n: there's probably some way to build it so only some features are installed but I can't be bothered figuring it out atm
[10:25] <Tyrath> Cann0n: besides I don't want to have to rebind my keys again :P
[10:25] <Seaboy> m0niker: I have no desktop (just a white screen) after logging in
[10:25] <siccness> Gentoo is a far better Linux distribution than Ubuntu.
[10:25] <pickknic> There's a huge amount of info/howto's for RAIDs on the web, mostly ancient stuff and all conflicting. Can someone tell me what to use to create a RAID array in 8.10 (not to boot from, just for file storage)? LVM? mdadm? dmadm? something else?
[10:25] <Tyrath> siccness: how so?
[10:25] <Cann0n> Slackware is far better than any other distro i've tried
[10:25] <siccness> Tyrath: Because it's rolling.
[10:25] <Cann0n> Tyrath: and that is why you are using ubuntu.
[10:25] <m0niker> why cann0?
[10:25] <Tyrath> siccness: I don't get it
[10:26] <siccness> Heh.
[10:26] <m0niker> *Cann0n
[10:26] <Tyrath> Cann0n: I'm using ubuntu cause I accidently installed it with Hardy and ever since I've been using it :P
[10:26] <Neaai> Seaboy: Try ctrl-alt-f1  (this bring your text console)  Login with your username and password and then do:   "sudo adduser newusername". Then press alt-f7 to get back to graphics and kill the session with ctrl-alt-backspace. When prompted, login as the new user you added.
[10:26] <siccness> and let's be honest, there's nothing better than spending 4hrs compiling X
[10:26] <Cann0n> Tyrath: Hardy is a ghey code name for Ubuntu...
[10:27] <Tyrath> Cann0n: I've moved up to Ibex since :P
[10:27] <Cann0n> which is a variant of Debian, geared for noobs
[10:27] <Cann0n> Ibex?
[10:27] <Cann0n> that a new distro?
[10:27] <Tyrath> Intrepid Ibex
[10:27] <siccness> lol
[10:27] <Tyrath> that's the latest
[10:27] <inventor> please help me. i install qemu and kqemu,   modprobe kqemu FATAL: Module kqemu not found.
[10:27] <siccness> inventor: maybe you should look at installing pemu!
[10:27] <siccness> ;-)
[10:27] <Tyrath> inventor: tried installing it from source?
[10:27] <m0niker> Cannon why is slackware the best?
[10:27] <siccness> oo im so evil!
[10:27] <Junee_moetz> ghghg
[10:28] <benovic> well, ubuntu has a far better marketing though :)
[10:28] <siccness> Slackware is a piece of crap.
[10:28] <Cann0n> siccness: why? too hard?
[10:28] <m0niker> WTF
[10:28] <pickknic> slackware is bogan sounding
 no, install apt-get
[10:28] <siccness> too hard? no. too shit.
[10:28] <Tyrath> inventor: try installing it from source
[10:28] <m0niker> why?
[10:28] <siccness> Arch Linux is the key.
[10:28] <Cann0n> Ubuntu is Afircan for "Can't use Debian"
[10:28] <schnootop> hello i was just wondering, if i plugin an external usb HDD should it appear automatically even on the live cd ?
[10:28] <benovic> enought trollin... ubuntu is like obama
[10:28] <Tyrath> inventor: apt-get can fail quite readily
[10:28] <siccness> benovic: what's that meant to mean?
[10:28] <m0niker> troll
[10:28] <Seaboy> Neaai: i'll try it, thanks
[10:28] <nmh-j2graw> Cann0n: why are you here?
[10:28] <Cann0n> lol
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:29] <benovic> black AND easy to choose
[10:29] <Tyrath> inventor: because apt-get only works from the repositories and if those repositories are old or not present it won't be much good
[10:29] <m0niker> exactly
[10:29] <siccness> black but white on the inside?
[10:29] <benovic> even for some txans
[10:29] <Cann0n> pure boredom.
[10:29] <m0niker> youre boring us
[10:29] <pickknic> Is it bad ettiquette to repeat a question that got no response 5 mins ago?
[10:29] <inventor> ok.senks. i install last from source
[10:29] <Pest> can anyone tell me how to change the Accessibility setting of Simple Compiz Config Settings Manager  manual from settings file ? :(
[10:29] <Cann0n> Enjoying the windows of linux
[10:29] <nmh-j2graw> maybe you should go somewhere else to be bored
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> pickknic: wassup?
[10:29] <m0niker> ?
[10:29] <pickknic> There's a huge amount of info/howto's for RAIDs on the web, mostly ancient stuff and all conflicting. Can someone tell me what to use to create a RAID array in 8.10 (not to boot from, just for file storage)? LVM? mdadm? dmadm? something else?
[10:29] <nmh-j2graw> rather than proving how much of a lamer you can be
[10:29] <netyire> Cann0n: try #politics, it's a great place to be bored
[10:29] <Tyrath> gah can no-one help me with my AC issue?
[10:29] <nmh-j2graw> since you don't seem to know anything
[10:30] <Tyrath> - it's the one issue that actually is a pain that needs fixing
[10:30] <Tyrath> the proxy issues aren't a big deal cause I can just use GUI and firefox
[10:30] <magnetik> Hi
[10:30] <m0niker> ubuntu the windows for linux?
[10:30] <Tyrath> hi magnetik
[10:30] <m0niker> i dont think so
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> pickknic: all i can point you to is the raid factoid, you could also specify the raid level you require
[10:30] <magnetik> Is it possible to have apport started when an application crash ?
[10:30] <Cann0n> nmh-j2graw: maybe, but since Ubuntu attracts noobs, and there are more noobs on the net, this place pretty much is the most crowded channel on freenode....
[10:30] <m0niker> linux is NOT windows
[10:30] <Tyrath> m0niker: you a windows fan?
[10:30] <Cann0n> no duh
[10:30] <m0niker> NO!
[10:30] <Tyrath> lol
[10:31] <m0niker> ubuntu with fluxbox
[10:31] <pickknic> ActionParsnip: raid5
[10:31]  * Tyrath wonders why people come in here and pay out the distro
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> m0niker: amen brother
[10:31] <nmh-j2graw> because they don't know enough to do anything else
[10:31] <Cann0n> i'd rather go to a party with 1.4k folks instead of 200
[10:31] <Tyrath> you know, if you've got the gumption to pay out this distro why don't you go out, start a club and build something better?
[10:31] <m0niker> exactly!!!
[10:31] <Cann0n> either way, i've assisted people in here
[10:31] <nmh-j2graw> see my previous answer for why he can't
[10:32] <nmh-j2graw> I suggest ignoring the troll
[10:32] <ziroday> !offtopic
[10:32] <Tyrath> Cann0n: can you assist me with AC?  AC as in current, or what
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> pickknic: click it, see what you get
[10:33] <sercik> i have a firewall configuration that cannot permit me to access a specific ip address (modem at <IP_ADDRESS>) someone can help me??
[10:33] <Tyrath> Cann0n: I meant plugging in an AC power pack shuts off my computer if I'm in GUI mode and my battery power is low
[10:33] <DSX> Hi I have a Logitech MOMO Racing Wheel and every time I use it, X restarts and comes up with errors. Any ideas?
[10:33] <Neaai> sercik: only that ip address ?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> sercik: add a new rule to allow traffic to that ip
[10:33] <sercik> hi Neaai
[10:33] <sercik> yes
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> DSX: id check dmesg
[10:34] <m0niker> only that Ip
[10:34] <sercik> someone can explain me how to do that
[10:34] <Neaai> sercik: pastebin the results of   "iptables -L -v"
[10:34] <m0niker> if ip tables is too hard get a front end like firestarter
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> sercik: well you configured the firewall, add a new rule like you did the rest
[10:34] <Cann0n> Tyrath: no idea. are you using APM or ACPI?
[10:34] <siccness> firestarter blows
[10:34] <m0niker> I prefer learning iptables
[10:34] <siccness> ^
[10:34] <Cann0n> agreed
[10:34] <siccness> iptables is the key
[10:34] <siccness> OR
[10:34] <siccness> pemu
[10:34] <sercik> i'm not at that pc now, but i try to explain
[10:34] <FloodBot1> siccness: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:34] <siccness> Cisco PIX IOS emulation!
[10:34] <Jaffarkelshac> i am having a problem with hotmail where i cant create/write emails with the new look.
[10:35] <Tyrath> Cann0n: I don't know. When I checked the logs it seems to show ACPI stuffing up, but if I do a string search it comes up with apm
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Jaffarkelshac: try a different browser
[10:35] <sercik> the pc have two nic: eth0 connected to a modem adsl and eth1 connected to local lan
[10:35] <sercik> i'm not able to access to <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:35] <m0niker> troubleshoot
[10:35] <sercik> yesterday i have shutted down the firewall and i was able to access to <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:35] <Jaffarkelshac> same problem with epiphany ActionParsnip
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Jaffarkelshac: switch to the old look
[10:36] <Neaai> For firewalls, some of us here might not agree with me, but I like the   http://www.configserver.com/cp/csf.html
[10:36] <m0niker> do that to login to your router then
[10:36] <Tyrath> Cann0n: searching for both in apt-cache brings up a bunch of progs
[10:36] <Cann0n> Tyrath: the best thing i can suggest is research your hardware and compile your own kernel specifically for your computer, this way you can tweak the kernel.
[10:36] <Cann0n> as far as AC and such, i don't know. my battery is shot so i stay plugged in
[10:37] <Neaai> sercik: pastebin the results of:  iptables -L  so we can see if there's anything wrong.
[10:37] <Cann0n> it lasts just long enough to run from plug to plug
[10:37] <Jaffarkelshac> i cant figure out how to change the new look ActionParsnip
[10:37] <Tyrath> tweak the kernel? I didn't know that was possible? I thought kernals only spoke machine language?
[10:37] <sercik> Neaai: i'm not at that pc
[10:37] <Tyrath> Cann0n: lol. i thought you weren't on a ubuntu distro?
[10:37] <Cann0n> im not
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Jaffarkelshac: i dont use hotmail and its not an ubuntu question, check settings maybe
[10:38] <sercik> if you can help me we can speak between 4 hour
[10:38] <Tyrath> Cann0n: so you probably wouldn't get the same probs
[10:38] <Neaai> sercik: oh. Well what do you remember doing before this happened?
[10:38] <Cann0n> if it's a GUI problem effecting your power, it's probably your settings
[10:38] <sercik> Neaai: it was always so i have not done anything
[10:39] <Cann0n> and the best way to know what you settings are is to set the, instead of rely on a remade kernel from the distro itself
[10:39] <DSX> http://pastebin.com/m6245fe0b
[10:39] <Cann0n> for example, i boosted my wifi signal 40% by setting up my kernel properly
[10:39] <Tyrath_> whoops accidently killed the process :P
[10:39] <sercik> the problem is the firewall.. i'm sure about that.. because if i do firewall stop i can reach <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:39] <Tyrath_> Cann0n: wow that's awesome
[10:39] <Cann0n> and that is just one thing,
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: most new users dont know what half the stuff in menuconfig means or is
[10:39] <Tyrath_> Cann0n: I'm on ACPI 1.1-1ubuntu1
[10:39] <sercik> so the question is hot to tell the firewall to reach <IP_ADDRESS> from eth0 card
[10:40] <shiki9_> ha any of you guys  use windows to play games but loved to work using  ubuntu
[10:40] <Cann0n> apt-cache are your packages you downloaded
[10:40] <DSX> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m6245fe0b
[10:40] <Tyrath_> Cann0n: but i have no idea what APM version I have cause I can't get that info
[10:40] <Neaai> sercik: if you know what the problem is, what's stopping you from fixing what's amiss ?
[10:40] <Cann0n> and in your /tmp or where ever buntu puts them
[10:40] <russian> good morning
[10:40] <rahmen> Upgrading to 8.10 didn't end well for me.. I don't really know what to do. Error msg on a bluescreen after the login-screen has appeared and disappeared a few times: http://pastebin.com/m1944b559 anyone who can help me?
[10:40] <sercik> Neaai: i'm not good to firewall
[10:40] <Cann0n> tyrathsadly, APM and ACPI are still working on getting hardware to work 100%
[10:40] <Tyrath_> ack!
[10:40] <sercik> apt-cache gives information not
[10:41] <sercik> only about installed package
[10:41] <Tyrath_> it's a wonder why other peope aren't getting these AC problems
[10:41] <Cann0n> my laptop doesn't restore from stand by sleep
[10:41] <Tyrath_> sercik: which may be why APM doesn't show up
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> shiki9_: i game happily in linux
[10:41] <rdx> Any idea how to get jackd/Jack Audio Connection Kit to work on 8.10?
[10:41] <Cann0n> sercik: i dont use apt protocols.
[10:41] <Tyrath_> sercik: isn't it only installed packages that were installed via apt?
[10:41] <bluespuke> hi
[10:41] <Tyrath_> hi
[10:41] <Neaai> sercik: Is it only a ping/icmp problem or overall connectivity problem ?
[10:41] <bluespuke> someone can help me with hotplug?
[10:41] <Cann0n> its hardware specific having errors with default config files
[10:42] <Pulzer_> If I enable XDMCP from the system menu/login, is there any way for me to restrict it to only listen for connections on a specific interface and not all? Would like to only have it listen on the LAN interface and not the WLAN one too
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: if you buy linux friendly hardware you dont have to mess around with kernels or worry if ACPI will like your hardware as it will just work
[10:42] <Tyrath_> anyhow, I've got an exam to study for. I've left a bug report for all my problems on launchpad. hopefully someone comes up with a fix
[10:42] <sercik> Neaai: with firewall service activated i'm not able to access to that ip... neither ping that ip
[10:42] <Tyrath_> thanks for trying to help peeps
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: shop smart, save yourself hassle. dont just buy whats cheap or latest
[10:42] <Cann0n> ActionParsnip: ... how long have you been using linux?
[10:42] <Cann0n> its not shopping..
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: I started on redhat 6
[10:42] <Junee_moetz> ffgfffff
[10:42] <shiki9_> ActionParsnip:i play those single player action adventure games like dead space and bioshock which i had  alot of problems trying to get them to run in wine with my ati card
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: then madriva 7
[10:43] <Junee_moetz> aneh
[10:43] <Neaai> sercik: But are you able to 'go past' that ip? Can you use the modem for browsing?
[10:43] <Cann0n> if you default kernel doesn't have an option you need to get something to work, say TI pcmxxx sd/mmc card readers
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> shiki9_: is there a loki installer for them at all?
[10:43] <marekt> hi can you tell me how to increase data rate while connectiong from one ubuntu machine to another using ssh?
[10:43] <Cann0n> ActionParsnip: i asked how long, not what version.
[10:43] <Junee_moetz> cannon busyet
[10:43] <iddo> my login keyring doesn't get automatically unlocked on startup... any ideas?
[10:43] <lakitu2> command to reset my preferences? have a black desktop & no icons on desktop or rightclick
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: mid 2006
[10:44] <Cann0n> ActionParsnip: it is all ways recommended to compile your own kernel (that is if you know liniux)
[10:44] <bluespuke> ok i simply ask: i'm following a howto ( http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Hotplugging_USB_audio_devices_(Howto) ) to hotplug my usb headset, at the end they use a folder called /etc/hotplug/ but i don't have it, should i simply create it or did i miss something (install a package,...)
[10:44] <bluespuke> ?
[10:44] <shiki9_> ActionParsnip: i don't know
[10:44] <Cann0n> ActionParsnip: RedHat 6 came out way before 2006
[10:45] <rahmen> I need help with a login-screen crash with this blue-screen text http://pastebin.com/m1944b559 I updated to 8.10 and was hoping it would work....
[10:45] <Cann0n> i've been using slackware since 2001
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: i work in computers dude. theres nothing i hate more than having to mess with my system. I have a gentoo box, a mandriva fileserver and a kubuntu desktop
[10:45] <siccness> you work in computers?
[10:45] <Cann0n> how many  times have you compiled your own kernel, ever?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: thats when i was using mandriva when i got more into it, redhat was more a toy than a real used OS
[10:46] <siccness> how do you find the confined space, ActionParsnip?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: i only use ubuntu as its simple and easy which is all i want
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> siccness: confined space?
[10:46] <Neaai> rahmen: most probably your X is incorrectly configured, but I can't be sure.
[10:46] <siccness> well yeah, you said you worked in computers
[10:46] <siccness> must be tight squeeze in those pipelines
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> siccness: nice :D
[10:46] <m0niker> ?
[10:47] <Cann0n> ah, well if you don't care about performance or efficiency or prestige or pride, you made a fine choice.
[10:47] <m0niker> ouch
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: exactly.  i dont spend hours in front of my pc when i can be out having a laugh with my mates :D
[10:47] <Spatman> some one run wow on ubuntu here?
[10:47] <m0niker> Cann0n has no life
[10:47] <hml> what's the ubuntu way of saying "let me grab the source code for whatever emacs source code was used to build my current emacs package" ?
[10:47] <nmh-j2graw> ActionParsnip: iow - you want to get things done, rather than play with the computer?
[10:47] <magnetron> hml→ apt-get source emacs
[10:48] <siccness> hml: might want to try english first.
[10:48] <Cann0n> it took me maybe 2 hours total to configure and compile a kernel, which fixed how many of my problems?
[10:48] <Spatman> some one run wow on ubuntu here? then pls pm me
[10:48] <nmh-j2graw> Cann0n: how many times have you recompiled your kernel?
[10:48] <hml> Spatman: world  of warcraft?
[10:48] <rahmen> Neaai: Ok, how do I fix that? Can I boot without graphics? So I just get a terminal?
[10:48] <nmh-j2graw> and how much trial and error to figure out what was optimal?
[10:48] <rww> Spatman: for help getting World of Warcraft working, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[10:48] <Cann0n> m0niker: funny, you're just jealous
[10:48] <magnetron> Spatman→ check the wine appdb and the wowwiki Wine/linux instructions, they are all you need
[10:49] <siccness> Cann0n: jealous of what?