[10:30] <binary2k2> spawn57: yeah, works fine
[10:30] <spawn57> but as soon as I restart, kwallet entries are gone..
[10:31] <musya> i know i have to hit cancel for everytime i logon becase it asks for the password but my root password wont work nor my password, nothing....
[10:31] <luca> spawn57: thanks
[10:31] <spawn57> musya didja create a wallet?
[10:31] <musya> yea
[10:32] <musya> for some reason i allways get a delay between my computer and the monitor, could it be a GPU issue?
[10:32] <musya> like the mouses, keyboards, software and etc get delayed when showing on the monitor, it gets annoying when trying to type
[10:33] <Darky> hi
[10:33] <mrdarcy> Hi all , does any body know how to reinstall sound recorder app?
[10:34] <musya> mrdarcy: sudo apt-get install package-name
[10:34] <luca> spawn57: did you by chance received a full mail return mail? I have just cleared the mailbox....
[10:35] <notech> musya: i'd check top to see if something is using an excessive amount of cpu
[10:35] <luca> spawn57: sorry for this :(
[10:35] <spawn57> one sec phone
[10:35] <max_> binary2k2: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36224/
[10:35] <musya> notech: nothing is, the most usage i get is %40
[10:36] <musya> its not really being used
[10:36] <mrdarcy> musya, the problem I having is that removing the package is not possible because it is a system req
[10:36] <notech> musya: was my only guess, the only time i see that is when i am doing something cpu intensive
[10:37] <musya> mrdarcy: i dont think you have to uninstall it cant you just update it? or reinstall it?
[10:37] <musya> notech: i am not using a GPU just off of the motherboard
[10:37] <spawn57> luca: nope
[10:37] <spawn57> i got a myspace message though lol
[10:37] <musya> notech: but i dont do anything other than browsing, coding, and messaging
[10:37] <musya> well and compiling
[10:38] <musya> i think its kubuntu itself i might switch to debian
[10:38] <notech> musya: what's using 40% cpu?
[10:38] <musya> at times it does usually 0 or 2
[10:38] <musya> if i run something it will jump up
[10:38] <notech> seems excessive if you aren't doing much
[10:38] <notech> oh, ok
[10:39] <max_> i was running DSL the other day and it was 2% with a messenger anf firefox running
[10:39] <mrdarcy> b4 i had configure an etc file (forgottten already) but now can't open it( says " Audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the multimedia settings)
[10:42] <luca> spawn57: not getting it. :( Could you please resend?
[10:42] <spawn57> luca alright
[10:42] <luca> spawn57 thanks
[10:44] <musya> notech: would you happen to know how kubuntu is differnt from debian?
[10:45] <max_> binary2k2: you in here?
[10:46] <binary2k2> max_: (sorry, I'm all over the place atm) this config worked for me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36225/
[10:46] <crimsun> musya: kubuntu is based on ubuntu which is based on debian.
[10:48] <edgy> Hi, how can I show  a progress bar while I do cp in kubuntu?
[10:48] <musya> crimsun: well i know that much but i ment in performance?
[10:48] <eloquence_> Can somebody help with a problem installing ipw3945: http://pastebin.ca/273986 .. Here's some other info that might help http://pastebin.ca/273986 > http://pastebin.ca/273992
[10:48] <crimsun> musya: there's no quantifiable way for me to tell you, so you're better off comparing them yourself.
[10:48] <binary2k2> edgy: use Konqueror if you want a progess bar
[10:49] <max_> binary2k2: well i havent tried it this second time
[10:49] <max_> ctrl + alt + backspace restarts X corrent?
[10:49] <max_> correct*
[10:49] <spawn57> luca: sent again, a few mins ago already
[10:49] <spawn57> max: yeah
[10:50] <luca> spawn57: ****** provider, it does not receive it
[10:50] <binary2k2> max_: yeah, but i'd logout first, and choose "restart the X server" from the menu (ar ctrl-alt-backspace from kde login screen)
[10:50] <spawn57> i'm sending from a yahoo account
[10:50] <spawn57> might be in your junk mail?
[10:51] <luca> spawn57 could you try<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[10:51] <max_> binary2k2: ok, bac ina seconf
[10:51] <max_> d
[10:51] <spawn57> yeap sure
[10:51] <luca> luckily I own more than one box....
[10:51] <luca> spawn57 thanks!
[10:51] <gsuveg> re
[10:51] <gsuveg> anyone know kickoff menu for edgy ?
[10:53] <max_> binary2k2: it didnt crash on me, thats good..what do i have to do now?
[10:53] <spawn57> luca: sent again hehe
[10:53] <luca> spawn57 thanks now it arrived!
[10:53] <spawn57> alright
[10:53] <spawn57> g'luck man
[10:54] <binary2k2> max_: install beryl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl
[10:56] <luca> spawn57: I am reconfiguring nvidia-glx
[10:56] <edgy> binary2k2: it's a remote server and konqueror is not installed
[10:56] <luca> spawn57 then I am going to restart the x server - let's hope!
[10:57] <binary2k2> edgy: then I don't know (sorry)
[10:57] <edgy> binary2k2: no problem. thx anyway
[10:58] <xenol> hey i am back :D
[11:00] <mhb> hi
[11:02] <mhb> it's kinda weird, but I'm not able to install Edgy :o) I get to the phase 5/6, I want to select another partition as root and when I do and click on Next the "no root partition" info appears
[11:03] <max_> binary2k2: thank you!
[11:04] <max_> binary2k2: it finnally works
[11:04] <binary2k2> max_:  YAY, beryl ROCKS!!!! :p
[11:04] <max_> binary2k2: and its only a tad bit sluggish, which it wont be once i get my new graphics card
[11:04] <max_> can you change colors? not to fond of this red
[11:05] <binary2k2> max_: yeah, install emerald-themes and you gar loads of choices
[11:05] <xenol> !retricted format
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about retricted format - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <xenol> !restricted formats
[11:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:06] <max_> thanks so muchn
[11:06] <max_> i hope you have a very merry x-mas
[11:06] <binary2k2> max_: no problam, glad you got the coolnes of beryl (and merry christmas to you too :D )
[11:07] <Darky> germans here?
[11:07] <chimaera> tey're in #kubuntu-de
[11:07] <Darky> ok thx
[11:07] <chimaera> well, on the other hand, i'm here, but anyways, you get the point ^^
[11:09] <chimaera> beryl looks very nice, but using txgl with the proprietary ati-driver is kind of slow.
[11:09] <chimaera> s/txgl/xgl/
[11:10] <xenol> !libxine-extracodecs
[11:10] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[11:10] <xenol> where from could i DL libxine-extracodecs plz?
[11:10] <binary2k2> chimaera: yeah, xgl is slow, xigls is great (don't want to rubb it in tho)
[11:10] <chimaera> yiu mean aiglx?
[11:10] <mhb> xenol: multiverse repository
[11:11] <binary2k2> chimaera: yes :p
[11:11] <xenol> !multiverse repository
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multiverse repository - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <binary2k2> chimaera: long night :p
[11:11] <mhb> !multiverse
[11:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:11] <xenol> !repository
[11:11] <chimaera> binary2k2: hehe, i might using xorg's ati-driver, supports aiglx.
[11:12] <xenol> mhb plz can u tell me to which repository i must write "multiuniverse"?
[11:13] <chimaera> its 'multiverse'
[11:13] <binary2k2> chimaera: I don't actually know if ati has aiglx support, it they do then use it :p I have intel intergrated graphics aiglx works great (how many times have I said that)
[11:13] <xenol> multiverse* to all my repositories?
[11:13] <max__> binary2k2: where do i turn on Desktop Cube, im under that setting and it is checked, but no cube..
[11:14] <chimaera> binary2k2: what crad do you have? nvidia?
[11:14] <binary2k2> chimaera: intel 845G intergrated
[11:14] <chimaera> binary2k2: hehe
[11:15] <binary2k2> max__: have you tried (crtl-alt-left click) ?
[11:15] <max__> no i havent *trys*
[11:15] <binary2k2> chimaera: aiglx works graet with it, it rocks :p
[11:16] <binary2k2> *great
[11:16] <xenol> plz i must write multiverse to all repositories?
[11:16] <max__> binary2k2: do it where? desktop?
[11:16] <binary2k2> max__: anywhere should work
[11:16] <max__> just ctrl+alt+left click?
[11:16] <mhb> xenol: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:17] <binary2k2> max__: ctrl-alt-left click (and drag)
[11:17] <buz> how's support for nforce 430 in edgy?
[11:17] <xenol> mhb i am doing ig through adept manager it is same aint it?
[11:17] <max__> can you not keep it like the cube?
[11:17] <max__> or is that just for swirtching
[11:17] <mhb> xenol: yes ... and write "multiverse" behind "main restricted"
[11:18] <binary2k2> max__: it's just for switching
[11:18] <max__> ok
[11:18] <mhb> xenol: there is a line with "main restricted" ... edit that field and write "universe multiverse" in it
[11:18] <max__> thanks again!
[11:18] <binary2k2> max__: it's still cook tho :p
[11:18] <max__> very!
[11:18] <max__> before this i used 3ddesktop plus some translucency
[11:18] <max__> this is alot better
[11:18] <max__> haha
[11:18] <binary2k2> max__: you're  welcome, any more help you need, just ask :D
[11:18] <max__> have a good night binary
[11:26] <xenol> mhb, on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu it says to write behind universe
[11:27] <binary2k2> xenol: just add universe (and/or multiverse) to the end of the line
[11:27] <xenol> binary2k2 wit text main resticted?
[11:27] <binary2k2> xenol: yes, that will work fine
[11:29] <xenol> binary2k2 for deb http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted i should change it to deb http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse?
[11:31] <binary2k2> xenol: yes
[11:36] <mathiouzz> hi all :)
[11:38] <xenol> binary2k2 i also have some disabled repositories should i enable em?
[11:39] <binary2k2> xenol: depends what they are
[11:39] <max__> binary2k2: sorry to be a bother, how do you set controls for zoom, i dont understand all the diffrent checkboxes, do i not enter it into "key name"?
[11:40] <binary2k2> max__: it will be in "Numeric Values"
[11:41] <max__> thoes are just values though
[11:42] <hyper_ch> what is a dns suffix?
[11:43] <binary2k2> max__: do you want the "Keyboard" or "mouse" tabs then?
[11:43] <max__> what? im confused
[11:44] <binary2k2> max__: are you in the "beryl Settings" menu?
[11:45] <max__> yes
[11:45] <binary2k2> max__: what exactly do you want to change?
[11:45] <max__> i just need to assign a control to zoom
[11:46] <binary2k2> max__: you mean a keyboard sequence or mounse button?
[11:47] <max__> mouse
[11:48] <binary2k2> max__: the default is "Super-mouse4" to zoop, Super is win key and mouse4 it scroll up
[11:49] <max__> i dont have a win key\
[11:50] <binary2k2> max__: go to "Input enabled Zoom" in the beryl settings manager, click on the "mouse" tab, and change it
[11:51] <max__> what are some of the other boxes?
[11:51] <max__> like mod?
[11:51] <max__> and hyper
[11:51] <max__> and meta
[11:51] <binary2k2> max__: that's setup in xorg.conf
[11:51] <ReTyPe> i have ubuntu 6.10, how do i install latest kde ?
[11:51] <binary2k2> max__: meta is normalt "Alt Gr"
[11:52] <Jucato> ReTyPe: it is the latest already
[11:52] <max__> gr?
[11:52] <ReTyPe> Jucato; i have gnome on ubuntu
[11:52] <binary2k2> max__: on my keyboard it's the right alt ket"
[11:52] <Jucato> ah that
[11:52] <max__> oh ok
[11:52] <max__> ill use that
[11:52] <niblets> how can I get helix engine working on kubuntu amarok?
[11:53] <Jucato> ReTyPe: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[11:53] <binary2k2> ReTyPe: add "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main" to your source.list
[11:53] <max__> one more question
[11:53] <max__> can you not driag somthing across the cube like xgl
[11:54] <binary2k2> yeah, you should just be able to drag to the edge of the screen and it'll flip  (works for me)
[11:55] <niblets> is that Beryl?
[11:55] <ReTyPe> binary2k2: in synaptic ?
[11:55] <Azzco> Hello, is there anyone here that got konference?
[11:56] <binary2k2> ReTyPe: yeah, or just edit /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor (as root/sudo)
[11:56] <ReTyPe> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[11:56] <binary2k2> ReTyPe: gpg --recv-keys A506E6D4DD4D5088
[11:57] <binary2k2> ReTyPe: then: gpg --export -a DD4D5088|sudo apt-key add -
[11:58] <ReTyPe> i had to use --keyserver on first command
[11:58] <niblets> how can I get helix engine working on kubuntu amarok? I am having trouble with Xine with some mp3s not decoding properly. It is the current version of Xine as well
[11:58] <Stim> hi  i have got a problem with my GNU/Linux Kubuntu. I don't see the directory / , it is not visible.  I see only my directory Home, maybe why i have install from live cd language italian? sorry for my language, i don't speak well the english
[11:59] <binary2k2> ReTyPe: ok, that's because you havem'y set it up to use keyserver.ubuntu.com
[11:59] <noiesmo> !hidden | stim
[11:59] <ubotu> stim: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[11:59] <ReTyPe> so now the source for kde is added, but how do i start the installation of kde now ?
[11:59] <Stim> thanks noiesmo and ubuto
[12:00] <Stim> :)
[12:00] <Stim> now i understand
[12:00] <binary2k2> good bot ubotu :p
[12:00] <Zamber> ;P
[12:00] <Azzco> I still would like to get webcam working in kopete with Konference. Got a problem during make could someone try to help me?
[12:00] <binary2k2> !botsnack
[12:00] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:01] <Zamber> !swiftfox
[12:01] <Jucato> ReTyPe: did you check the link I gave you?
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <Azzco> !kopete
[12:01] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 6825 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[12:02] <binary2k2> Azzco: are you tring to compile kopete?
[12:02] <nino> per kubuntu in italiano?
[12:02] <Azzco> binary2k2: no just konference
[12:02] <nino> cio la chat
[12:02] <binary2k2> !it | nino
[12:02] <ubotu> nino: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:03] <Stim> Dear friends now i have go becouse it's late. Bye and thanks from Italy
[12:03] <binary2k2> Azzco: what's the error you're getting?
[12:04] <niblets> how can I get helix engine working on kubuntu amarok? I am having trouble with Xine with some mp3s not decoding properly. It is the current version of Xine as well
[12:04] <Azzco> binary2k2: It's looong, but a freind of mine said that it would most likely have something to do with Qt.
[12:05] <Azzco> So is there anything special about Qt i Edgy that might have screwed something up?
[12:05] <binary2k2> Azzco: use pastebin to post the error
[12:05] <binary2k2> !pastebin
[12:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:06] <root> binary2k2: i restarted, and when i went to start up it hung at the balck screen with white line on it again...i had to login under recovery mode and do start x in a terminal (this is max)
[12:06] <backtick> hi all.. how to I disable the cups service?
[12:07] <Azzco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36234/ binary2k2, I skipped a few lines but I think that the most essential is there
[12:08] <binary2k2> root: cleck /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/Xorg.1.log for errors
[12:09] <mathiouzz> hi all
[12:09] <niblets> any ideas anyone?
[12:09] <mathiouzz> have someone got this error when burning dvd or someone help me ?
[12:10] <mathiouzz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36235/
[12:10] <aleksanteri> well, hi again ;)
[12:10] <mathiouzz> hi aleksanteri :P
[12:10] <mathiouzz> i upgraded growisofs
[12:10] <mathiouzz> still have the same problem
[12:10] <aleksanteri> hmmm
[12:10] <aleksanteri> but now it makes progression
[12:11] <mathiouzz> no i only pasted last time the end of the debug msg
[12:11] <mathiouzz> now i've put the entire one
[12:11] <aleksanteri> aha
[12:11] <aleksanteri> you should have put that up before
[12:11] <aleksanteri> now i think it's the ISO
[12:11] <mathiouzz> srry
[12:11] <root> binary2k2: it says (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23 alot
[12:11] <mathiouzz> why ?
[12:12] <aleksanteri> because it makes that progression but a part is corrupted so it crashes
[12:12] <Azzco> binary2k2: I couldn't find anything suspicius...
[12:12] <binary2k2> root: I get that too, X still starts
[12:12] <mathiouzz> hmm ok then i'm gonna try to burn a linux distro dvd
[12:12] <mathiouzz> then we'll see if it's the iso or not
[12:12] <aleksanteri> or
[12:12] <aleksanteri> redownload the iso
[12:12] <mathiouzz> it's a backup of one of my hdd
[12:12] <aleksanteri> pick another iso download there
[12:13] <binary2k2> Azzco: I have no idea, sorry
[12:13] <aleksanteri> then i think you should download a new one
[12:13] <mathiouzz> ok
[12:13] <mathiouzz> thanks for info aleksanteri
[12:13] <root> binary2k2: thats the only error
[12:13] <Azzco> THX for the help anyways binary2k2 :)
[12:13] <aleksanteri> you're welcome
[12:13] <mathiouzz> gtg guys
[12:13] <mathiouzz> have a nice week end :)
[12:13] <mathiouzz> cya :)
[12:13] <aleksanteri> same for you too
[12:13] <aleksanteri> bye
[12:14] <binary2k2> root: did you check Xorg.1.log ?
[12:14] <mathiouzz> and thanks 4 your help aleksanteri
[12:14] <aleksanteri> yeah you're welcome
[12:14] <mathiouzz> ;)
[12:14] <root> binary2k2: thats the only xorg log there is
[12:15] <binary2k2> root: did X start with  startx ?
[12:16] <root> yes
[12:16] <root> and it said i didnt have permission
[12:16] <root> so i changed to root to startx
[12:17] <binary2k2> root: that's normal for a normal user not to have permission
[12:17] <root> ive never gotten that before
[12:17] <root> its always let me startx as user
[12:17] <binary2k2> root: try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[12:18] <binary2k2> root: I've always got that permission error
[12:18] <root> ok, be right back
[12:18] <binary2k2> ok
[12:19] <root> binary2k2: what did that do?
[12:20] <root> it stopped and started kdm
[12:20] <root> should i try to restart now?
[12:20] <binary2k2> yeah, do ypu can login now
[12:21] <root> ok
[12:21] <binary2k2> ypu should be ablr to login as normal
[12:27] <gabber> hi....
[12:27] <gabber> how are you?
[12:33] <gabber> blow me
[12:33] <eloquence_> mew
[12:35] <ZeuGiRDoR> I've deleted accidentally "Multimedia" section of K Menu, how can I restore it?
[12:42] <fildo> *gone(dreamin of a special pair of boobz)
[12:46] <niblets> how can I get helix engine working on kubuntu amarok? I am having trouble with Xine with some mp3s not decoding properly. It is the current version of Xine as well
[12:48] <gheniza12246> channel#azzurra
[12:48] <_kuja_> I'm running edgy right now, but it seems that .... the other engines have disappeared from the repos?
[12:50] <one> how to add a script at boot startup?
[12:52] <eilker> hi to all, what is the equivalent of   xp's "msconfig" command in kubuntu ?
[12:55] <_kuja_> one: put it in the folder /etc/init.d/ and don't forget to chmod +x it. Then, run update-rc.d scriptname defaults
[12:55] <ZeuGiRDoR> how can i sort kmenu alphabetically?
[12:56] <_kuja_> Probably have to do that manually
[12:56] <ZeuGiRDoR> !!!
[12:56] <one> _kuja_: and how could I change the order of execution? I need run it before of starting LVM
[12:57] <ZeuGiRDoR> _kuja_: manually??? all the entries?
[12:57] <_kuja_> ZeuGiRDoR: crazy, I know.
[12:58] <_kuja_> one: I forget how that would work exactly ... I'll take a look at another couple of scripts to figure it out
[12:59] <_kuja_> one: I do believe it involves running it in a certain runlevel though
[12:59] <_kuja_> probably 0?
[12:59] <_kuja_> or S
[12:59] <one> ok, thanks _kuja_
[01:00] <ricanelite> Does anyone here run MacOnLinux? If so please let me know
[01:06] <hyper_ch> hiho, I got a problem with the 2.6.19-7 kernel... when I use it for boot in recovery mode (normal mode does not work), I get the following error messages:
[01:06] <hyper_ch> Alert! /dev/hda6 does not exist
[01:06] <hyper_ch> Dropping do shell
[01:06] <hyper_ch> and then:  Can't access tty; job control turned off
[01:06] <hyper_ch> however when I use the 2.6.17-x kernel boot works fine
[01:08] <brk> hi
[01:08] <brk> i need help with ffmpg
[01:08] <brk> how can i make mpg video ?
[01:09] <brk> ./ffmpeg -vcodec mpeg4 -b 1000 -r 10 -g 300 -vd x11:0,0 -s 1024x768 video.avi
[01:09] <brk> thid 4 avi...
[01:09] <brk> *this
[01:09] <brk> for mpeg or mpg ??
[01:10] <ricanelite> anyone here knows or uses Mac On Linux?
[01:11] <brk> ciao gheniza12246
[01:11] <brk> ciao ubuntu
[01:11] <brk> miii qualche italiano che usa ffmpg ????
[01:11] <innjeh> hi guys!, i have a prob with ATI drivers on kubuntu edgy. If i run fglrx as root i get output like this
[01:11] <willy_> Re
[01:12] <innjeh> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[01:12] <innjeh> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[01:12] <innjeh> OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1300 Series Generic
[01:12] <innjeh> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6065 (8.29.6)
[01:12] <innjeh> otherwise i get mesa driver output
[01:12] <innjeh> :s
[01:12] <innjeh> why is that ?
[01:13] <Bubba_Gump> KDE update today ?
[01:13] <brk> miii qualche italiano che usa ffmpg ????
[01:13] <brk> miii qualche italiano che usa ffmpg ????
[01:13] <brk> *ffmpeg
[01:14] <_kuja_> Hm, I saw some updates yesterday ... just a repackaging though, nothing new
[01:14] <_kuja_> maybe some patches if we're lucky
[01:14] <brk> _kuja_:  can u help me plz ? :((
[01:14] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[01:14] <_kuja_> brk? Probably
[01:14] <brk> :)
[01:14] <brk> u know ffmpeg??
[01:14] <_kuja_> What with?
[01:15] <brk> how can i make mpg video ?
[01:15] <brk> i've created an avi file but in windows doen't work
[01:15] <_kuja_> make an mpg video from?
[01:15] <_kuja_> brk, does that avi file work in linux?
[01:16] <brk> yep
[01:16] <brk> i do that
[01:16] <ricanelite> anyone here use Mac On Linux?
[01:16] <brk> ./ffmpeg -vcodec mpeg4 -b 1000 -r 10 -g 300 -vd x11:0,0 -s 1024x768 video.avi
[01:16] <_kuja_> If it doesn't work in windows, then you don't have the appropriate codec installed in windows.
[01:16] <brk> but i have latest update...
[01:16] <brk> and klcodec pack
[01:16] <_kuja_> Windows comes with very, very few codecs.
[01:16] <brk> .......
[01:17] <_kuja_> mpeg4 I presume? try to play it back with quicktime in windows, it'd probably work.
[01:17] <brk> ok but i can't make videos in mpeg ?
[01:17] <_kuja_> What do you m ean?
[01:18] <brk> the output is video.mpg
[01:18] <ajopaul_> how to disable the dosfsck checks everytime on a bootup?
[01:19] <ajopaul_> its slows down boot up!
[01:19] <brk> tnx _kuja_
[01:19] <brk> :)
[01:20] <_kuja_> brk, You get it working in win?
[01:20] <brk> no...but i searching for the codecs
[01:20] <Zamber> !dosfsck
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dosfsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <_kuja_> brk, when I used windows (a couple years ago) I used the tsunami codec/filter pack. It wasn't bad.
[01:21] <brk> :)
[01:21] <brk> k
[01:21] <ReTyPe> can i start a gnome as second X ?
[01:21] <aleksanteri> _kuja_: you use kvirc?
[01:21] <chimaera> ReTyPe: sure
[01:22] <ReTyPe> chimaera: how ?
[01:22] <brk> ok _kuja_ i about 2 download tsunami codecs :P
[01:22] <_kuja_> aleksanteri, oddly enough, I'm one of the few crazy/lazy enough to use Kopete :D
[01:22] <brk> *i'm
[01:22] <chimaera> ReTyPe: kde-menu -> switch user -> start new session
[01:23] <junky> plz someone can help me plz??? i can play action cube
[01:23] <junky> when i execute actioncube.sh in console i have en error an 3 steps
[01:23] <junky> i do the steps but nothing
[01:23] <junky> the game dont run
[01:25] <ReTyPe> chimaera: thx fot the tip, now i am on kde and gnome at the same time
[01:25] <Zamber> junky calm down
[01:25] <Zamber> and give some more tips
[01:26] <Zamber> paste into phpfi.com the code that it says
[01:26] <B-Minus> does anyone know where i can find the win32codecs as a .deb file ?
[01:26] <junky> phpfi.com?
[01:26] <Zamber> yeas
[01:26] <Zamber> www.phpfi.com
[01:26] <Zamber> it's simple as hell
[01:27] <ZeuGiRDoR> B-Minus: for edgy?
[01:27] <B-Minus> ZeuGiRDoR: yes
[01:28] <junky> oks
[01:28] <junky> Zamber: i do it
[01:28] <Zamber> and remember to send the link here
[01:28] <ZeuGiRDoR> B-Minus: here you are: http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/pool/edgy-seveas/extras/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[01:29] <chimaera> ReTyPe: you're welcome.
[01:29] <junky> http://phpfi.com/183305
[01:29] <B-Minus> ZeuGiRDoR: tnx
[01:30] <aspedia> I want to monitor mysql service on a remote machine with nagios. Firewall is blocking 3306, so I want to create a persistent tunnel with ssh. What Have I to do to get this running?
[01:30] <aspedia> Is there anywhere a howto?
[01:30] <Zamber> jumky what type of graphic card do you have?
[01:31] <junky> nvida 7800
[01:31] <junky> xfx
[01:31] <Zamber> type glxinfo and look if the direct rendering: in the 3rd line is Yes
[01:32] <xenol> plz where can i find abitilz to edit gtub.lst though system settings,
[01:33] <junky> http://phpfi.com/183309
[01:33] <junky> here are all the glzinfo
[01:33] <junky> i dont see rendering...
[01:33] <junky> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:34] <Zamber> how long do you have kubuntu?
[01:34] <Zamber> and how many 3d games did you run till now
[01:34] <xenol> where can i edit GRUB boot conf plz anyone
[01:35] <junky> any 3d game
[01:35] <junky> and kubuntu one day :)
[01:35] <junky> im am totally new
[01:35] <junky> i have win with games... but i like to use linux....
[01:35] <Zamber> xenol /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:36] <xenol> zamber and somehow though system?
[01:36] <Zamber> junky it looks like you have not configured your graphic card
[01:36] <Zamber> xenol run sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:36] <Zamber> xenol google for grub configurating
[01:37] <junky> ....
[01:37] <Zamber> it's simple
[01:37] <junky> ang what i have to do
[01:37] <Zamber> junky you have to get DRI working ;)
[01:37] <xenol> ok
[01:37] <Zamber> Direct Rendering Infrastrusture
[01:37] <junky> xenol: use supergrub is a good bootable program
[01:37] <junky> ...
[01:37] <junky> oks...
[01:37] <junky> any tutorial or somthing similar???
[01:37] <junky> im totally new..
[01:38] <Zamber> junky http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=250070 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=480085
[01:38] <Zamber> !dri
[01:38] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[01:38] <Zamber> !nvidia
[01:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:38] <Zamber> ;)
[01:38] <junky> i have to install?
[01:38] <Zamber> yep
[01:38] <Zamber> it's quite simple
[01:38] <junky> oks i have the drivers but not installed
[01:38] <junky> ...
[01:39] <Zamber> wait
[01:39] <Zamber> don not determine that in the first plkace
[01:39] <Zamber> even if you have it
[01:39] <Zamber> reinstall it as it is in the howto
[01:39] <junky> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8776-pkg2.run
[01:39] <junky> but not installed
[01:39] <junky> i only download it
[01:40] <junky> i have this
[01:40] <Zamber> look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:40] <xenol> !paste
[01:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:41] <Zamber> junky https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:41] <eilker> !autostart
[01:41] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[01:42] <happytiger> Hi ppl I am having trouble with my keyboard. When I run normal x session on kubuntu 6.10 all is fine, but when I run xgl session running on display :1 whereas regular xsession runs on display :0, then my I cant write the "add" sign anymore despite the fact I have local danish letters working perfectly.
[01:42] <Zamber> junky that last link is a very nice howto, wish I had found one like this when I was installing mine ati xD
[01:43] <happytiger> So how do I speicy which keyboard layout is to be used for display :1?
[01:44] <junky> oks...
[01:45] <junky> but what i have? linux-image-amd64-generic or k8 or xeon???
[01:46] <Zamber> junky look at your motherboard or run sysinfo
[01:46] <junky> sysinfo dont run
[01:46] <Zamber> if you have'nt got sysinfo
[01:46] <Zamber> yeah :p
[01:47] <Zamber> run it form the K menu
[01:48] <Jucato> kinfocenter
[01:48] <junky> i dont see it
[01:48] <Zamber> so run: sudo apt-get install sysinfo
[01:49] <happytiger> Also in kde systemmenu I cant choose any keyboard layouts
[01:49] <Jucato> doesn't KInfoCenter already do something like that?
[01:49] <aleksanteri> hey anyone know what's the command to list all programs avaivable via apt-get?
[01:49] <junky> oks thx
[01:50] <willy_> je voudrais bien avoir les configuration d'installation de ma Kubuntu, j'ai modifier quelque truc mais je voudrais revenire  avant, a la place de formater et rinstaller, on pourraisfaire comment?
[01:51] <Jucato> !fr | willy_
[01:51] <ubotu> willy_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:53] <willy_> ok
[01:54] <Zamber> aleksanteri you can try /sudo apt-cache search phrase/ for searching a certain package
[01:55] <Zamber> for listing all packages use adept or synaptic
[01:55] <mrdarcy> hi All
[01:55] <aleksanteri> ok
[01:55] <mrdarcy> does anybody know how to "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings"
[01:56] <mrdarcy> for sound recorder
[01:56] <mrdarcy> i mean how to solve this error from sound recorder "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings."
[01:58] <eilker> Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 0
[01:58] <eilker> why do i have gconf ?? this is kde, i dont have gnome
[02:03] <Zamber> !xgl
[02:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:03] <junky> lol
[02:03] <junky> i do
[02:03] <junky> that but actioncube say the same
[02:04] <junky> your platform does not have a pre-compiled cube client
[02:05] <ganymed_> hi
[02:05] <ganymed_> edgy is considered stable, is it?
[02:05] <Zamber> junky try googling for this problem
[02:06] <junky> oks...
[02:10] <Zamber> !JAMin
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about JAMin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <eilker> are all start-up scripts for services  in   /etc/init.d/   ??
[02:18] <aeduf> Hallo Leute, ich bin seit 3 Stunden Glcklicher Kubuntuuser.  Nur mchte ich in der Kontrollleiste rechts unten einen Ausschaltknopf hinplatzieren. ist das irgendwie mglich?
[02:19] <Lynoure> !de
[02:19] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:19] <delight> aeduf kubuntu-de
[02:19] <ganymed_> when i click on a symbol for a removable drive on my desktop all konqueror is opened, but the drive isn't mounted. i have to explicitely click on mount drive. why is this so?
[02:20] <tmk> hi
[02:21] <tmk> ich installiere grade kubuntu auf ubuntu
[02:21] <Lynoure> aeduf: But if you understand English, we can of course try to help you here. (but so far I only understood 3 hours, luxury and that all works...)
[02:21] <tmk> wo kann ich KDE als Standard-Desktop einstellen?
[02:21] <junky> in konsole what i have to put to se volumen of souds?
[02:21] <tmk> aeduf: das ist relativ einfach
[02:21] <junky> ...mixer
[02:22] <tmk> aeduf: rchte Maustaste - kontextmen
[02:22] <tmk> aeduf: da kannst du diverse Knpfe ergnzen
[02:22] <Jucato> !de
[02:22] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:22] <junky> plz
[02:22] <tmk> junky: sorry
[02:22] <ganymed_> once again, in case sb missed it :)
[02:22] <ganymed_> when i click on a symbol for a removable drive on my desktop all konqueror is opened, but the drive isn't mounted. i have to explicitely click on mount drive. why is this so?
[02:23] <junky> what i have to put in konsole to see volumen
[02:23] <eilker> tmk: kannst du spreche english ?
[02:23] <junky> (...)mixer...
[02:23] <junky> i dont remember
[02:23] <aeduf> Danke. aber delight hat mir alles  schon erklrt.
[02:23] <ganymed_> used to be different in dapper
[02:23] <junky> susamixer?
[02:23] <junky> nops
[02:23] <aeduf> peinlich, peinlich (-:
[02:23] <tmk> i just installed ubuntu and want to switch to Kubuntu - how can I configure kdm to start kde by default?
[02:23] <junky> it isnt susa mixer
[02:24] <ganymed_> tmk: just install kubuntu-desktop
[02:24] <xenol> !GRUB splashscreens
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GRUB splashscreens - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <tmk> ganymed_: thx
[02:24] <xenol> GRUB
[02:24] <xenol> !GRUB
[02:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:24] <eilker> tmk: isnt it from login screen ?
[02:25] <xenol> plz can anyone gimme some link to gallery with kubuntu splashscreens?
[02:25] <tmk> eilker: i'm just downloading 400 MB KDE packages, I just wanted to prepare
[02:25] <ganymed_> concerning grub: when i put a kernel file in /boot and edit menu.lst and do grub-install... grub tells me at boot-up "file cannot be found." why?
[02:26] <ganymed_> come on, two questions and no answers...?
[02:27] <cathal> since only recently all video files while playing in kaffeine, the picture slows down when i go to full-screen mode, any ideas?
[02:28] <eilker> tmk: i am not sure but u gonna have a login screen, and u should able to choose from that screen
[02:28] <apokryphos> ganymed_: non-kde related questions are often better asked in #ubuntu
[02:28] <tmk> eilker: thx, I'll try
[02:29] <_alex_> "E: Couldn't find package gcc-3.4" what's wrong?
[02:30] <apokryphos> !info gcc-3.4
[02:30] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.6-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 481 kB, installed size 4524 kB
[02:30] <apokryphos> you don't have the proper repositories enabled, somehow
[02:30] <apokryphos> _alex_: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[02:30] <_alex_> ok thanks
[02:31] <TheGateKeeper> _alex_, what does this return: dpkg -l | grep gcc ?
[02:32] <mc__> TheGateKeeper: TIAS
[02:32] <ganymed_> ok, then my first again
[02:32] <ganymed_> when i click on a symbol for a removable drive on my desktop all konqueror is opened, but the drive isn't mounted. i have to explicitely click on mount drive. why is this so?
[02:32] <_alex_> The GNU Compiler Collection (base package)
[02:32] <_alex_> ii  gcc-4.0-base                           4.0.3-1ubuntu5
[02:33] <ganymed_> and my drives are not shown on the desktop anymore (i have set the mount points manually)
[02:33] <ganymed_> god, i miss dapper
[02:34] <eilker> which one is better kdesu konqueror or sudo konqueror ? in console
[02:34] <Jucato> eilker: kdesu
[02:34] <Jucato> !kdesu | eilker
[02:34] <ubotu> eilker: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[02:35] <ganymed_> a root login would be the best... but that is only my opinion obviously
[02:35] <Jucato> ganymed_: Kubuntu discourages enabling the root account or a graphical root login
[02:36] <ganymed_> i know this. and it is... well... senseless. but let's not get into this discussion. the bad thing about ubuntu is that enabling the root account just messes up the system
[02:38] <eilker> jucato: i have /etc/init.d/no-ip   , i open konqueror with root rights, but it still doesnt allow me to delete no-ip
[02:39] <eilker> jucato: i open with "kdesu konqueror"
[02:39] <ganymed_> ok, another question: how do i use knetworkmanager. i used to start it and it did find networks via iwlist etc. now it just doesn't find anything. does anybody know why?
[02:39] <ganymed_> NetworkManager is running
[02:40] <Jucato> eilker: that should work... if it doesn't, try "sudo rm /etc/init.d/no-ip" (if it's a file) or go to /etc/init.d then "sudo rm no-ip" to be safer. just take note that once deleted in the command line, it's really gone. not trash bin
[02:41] <eilker> jucato: ohh i cant take that risk, may be system crashs, it is for dynamic dns...
[02:42] <_alex_> cc
[02:42] <junky> hello
[02:43] <junky> why i cant run actioncube????
[02:44] <junky> http://phpfi.com/183329 here my problem...
[02:45] <junky> plz
[02:46] <TheGateKeeper> junky, did you notice the instructions at the top
[02:46] <TheGateKeeper> ?
[02:46] <rolando> hola
[02:46] <junky> ?
[02:46] <rolando> i have a question about adept
[02:47] <junky> what instuctions?
[02:47] <rolando> when im installing something that needs that i agree with some license, how can i accept when using adept?
[02:47] <ganymed_> what do i have to do to use knetworkmanager? eth1 is set to auto, NetworkManager is running. but no networks visible. so what is wrong?
[02:47] <Jucato> rolando: unless you're trying to install Java, Flash, or VMWare Player, you usually just press Tab and/or the cursor keys to select the OK/Accept button the press Enter
[02:48] <TheGateKeeper> junky, Please follow the following steps....   <--- ring any bells?
[02:48] <rolando> Jucato: im trying to instal xfce
[02:48] <Jucato> :O
[02:48] <rolando> Jucato: so there is no wat to accept?
[02:48] <junky> yes i do
[02:48] <junky> but nothing
[02:48] <Jucato> why would there be a license agreement for xfce? :O
[02:48] <junky> i install the nvidia drivers to
[02:49] <rolando> Jucato: its not a license agreement is something else
[02:49] <Jucato> is it asking you for something that needs to be answered by Y/N ?
[02:49] <rolando> Jucato: but, it worked with tab, thanx :)
[02:49] <Jucato> well you said it was a license...
[02:49] <rolando> i knkow, it happened with java
[02:49] <rolando> and others
[02:50] <rolando> and i had to go with apt-get
[02:50] <TheGateKeeper> rolando, use synaptic
[02:50] <rolando> since adept is all about mouse it should be possible to accept with mouse...
[02:50] <rolando> TheGateKeeper: aint adept == synaptic?
[02:51] <TheGateKeeper> rolando, it gives you access to a terminal window to agree to stuff
[02:51] <Jucato> Synaptic has some features that Adept doesn't have
[02:51] <Jucato> like the ability to accept those licenses
[02:51] <rolando> TheGateKeeper: thanx, ill try it next time
[02:51] <rolando> that is someting very nice
[02:51] <TheGateKeeper> synaptic == gui installer, adept == pathetic attempt at gui installer
[02:51] <rolando> but since adept is what comes with kubuntu is the one im using
[02:52] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: but then again, Synaptic == older == more people to work on it == more time to work on it
[02:52] <rolando> ok, so shoud i switch to synaptic?
[02:52] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, adept == reinventing the wheel for sod all benifit
[02:52] <rolando> or adept will be the standard
[02:52] <junky> i cant run open arena or action cube...
[02:53] <junky> one say an error and the other say no such file or directory
[02:53] <junky> and it is good de archive and the directori
[02:53] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: then again Synaptic doesn't use Qt or KDE libs, meaning it's not well integrated into the system
[02:54] <Jucato> rolando: Adept won't be the standard package manager for KDE. last I heard, KDE practically left it to the distributors to choose/make their own
[02:54] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, pzeh, who cares, it works
[02:54] <Jucato> the command line works, too. :)
[02:54] <rolando> but i dont knkow how to look for packages with command line
[02:55] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, if you are that worried about that you port it to qt then improve it
[02:55] <rolando> no easy search
[02:55] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: I'm not that worried. whatever gave you the idea that I was
[02:55] <rolando> thanx both, gonna try xfce
[02:56] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, the minute you started trying to have an arguement about might have been a bit of a give away lol
[02:56] <Jucato> I wasn't even trying to have an argument
[02:57] <Jucato> last I checked, I was merely laying out the facts. it's up to you to interpret whether I was arguing or not
[02:58] <Jucato> (I wasn't, anyway)
[02:58] <junky> why open arena and sauerbraten say the same error??
[02:59] <junky> http://phpfi.com/183338
[02:59] <junky> this put
[02:59] <junky> and i do this make install, but it says many errors
[03:01] <junky> plz
[03:01] <nuxil> junky, you need Sauerbraten client.
[03:01] <junky> yes i have it
[03:02] <nuxil> 1) Ensure you have the SDL, SDL-image, SDL-mixer, and OpenGL libraries installed.
[03:02] <junky> and also action cube client
[03:02] <junky> ?
[03:02] <junky> what is?
[03:02] <xenol> plz can someone tell me how can i change GRUB splahscreen?
[03:03] <nuxil> xenol, #grub
[03:03] <TheGateKeeper> !grub
[03:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:03] <os2mac> anyone got an idea about when Kubuntu is going to incorperate 2.6.19X
[03:03] <MidMark> Hi, I've a problem with a pci modem with conexant chip, I have visited www.linuxant.com but there in o precompiled module for hcf and the installer fails to compile (I have buid essential) because a conflicts with other alsa module
[03:03] <MidMark> someone can help me?
[03:04] <MidMark> os2mac: with feisty, v7.04
[03:05] <os2mac> so what is feisty herd 1? rc release?
[03:05] <xenol> !paste
[03:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:06] <MidMark> os2mac: no a very alpha release
[03:06] <MidMark> feisty will be out in april
[03:06] <os2mac> ahhhh
[03:06] <os2mac> dammit.
[03:06] <os2mac> that is the only thing keeping me from using my nic.
[03:08] <MidMark> os2mac: why you should use .19?
[03:08] <os2mac> cause I really do not want to use ndiswrapper...
[03:08] <os2mac> I would like it to work out of the box.
[03:09] <os2mac> and once they get .19 integrated DELL Nic's will be supported out of the box....
[03:09] <os2mac> the version of BCM43xx that is installed with .17 doesn't work with Dell nic's
[03:11] <MidMark> linux is the OS that change kernel more faster than other OSes
[03:11] <MidMark> Windows stayed for 5 years with the same kernel
[03:11] <os2mac> that may be true but Kubuntu doesn't
[03:11] <xwolf-> where can i get man pages for C functions?
[03:12] <Jucato> !manpages-dev | xwolf-
[03:12] <ubotu> manpages-dev: Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development. In component main, is optional. Version 2.34-1 (edgy), package size 1183 kB, installed size 2908 kB
[03:12] <MidMark> kubuntu change kernel every 6 months
[03:13] <paul1975> hi
[03:13] <paul1975> i am from south africa
[03:13] <aleksanteri> !xorg
[03:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:14] <xwolf-> thank you Jucato :)
[03:14] <Jucato> :)
[03:15] <MidMark> os2mac: make a bugreport in launchpad to backport bcm drivers from .19
[03:15] <MidMark> search first, I've seen something already
[03:15] <junky> some one can help me plx? why i cant play action cube or sauerbraten...?
[03:15] <junky> say same error
[03:16] <junky> http://phpfi.com/183338
[03:16] <zungui> join #ubuntu.es
[03:16] <junky> i do tha... but doesnt run... im newbie
[03:19] <junky> plz
[03:26] <aleksanteri> hey what's the "code sequence" for extracting a tgz archive with "tar"? with gz it's "-zxvf", what's it with tgz?
[03:27] <aleksanteri> oh it WAS "-pxvf" :O
[03:27] <aleksanteri> i just guessed :P
[03:28] <aleksanteri> or... perhaps it wasn't
[03:28] <aleksanteri> i got an error after the first folder :|
[03:37] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:37] <Zappix> Howdy
[03:39] <nagyv> I would like try out boson, but it always freezes when I start a single player game. Is there something I can check?
[03:44] <NetShark> Hi
[03:44] <NetShark> I am having problems installing latest nvidia drivers
[03:44] <klerfayt> NetShark: what problems?
[03:45] <NetShark> it installs and i get the nvidia logo on x startup
[03:45] <NetShark> but glxgears doesn't work
[03:45] <NetShark> i get failure to open device (null)
[03:46] <NetShark> and after reboot i can't even start x
[03:46] <klerfayt> NetShark: how did you install them?
[03:46] <nagyv> !nvidia
[03:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:47] <klerfayt> NetShark: did you insert   DISABLED_MODULES="nv"   into /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common?
[03:47] <NetShark> i exited kde and ran sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run
[03:47] <NetShark> is it a bad driver?
[03:47] <klerfayt> NetShark: here is a good howto http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=7272303cc2d3882a9191965abfe8c10b&t=72490 - scroll down to Debian GNU/Linux or Ubuntu with Xorg 7.x
[03:49] <NetShark> ok, trying to follow that guide
[03:49] <eilker> how can i make a folder  hidden ?
[03:49] <NetShark> how do i uninstall NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1?
[03:50] <klerfayt> NetShark: sudo nvidia-installer --uninstall
[03:51] <NetShark> ninstallation of existing driver: NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for
[03:51] <NetShark>   Linux-x86 (1.0-9631) is complete.
[03:51] <aleksanteri> !automake
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <aleksanteri> bah
[03:52] <NetShark> how do i choose the right linux-headers version?
[03:52] <spawn57> NetShark: get teh one that matches your kernel version
[03:52] <spawn57> uname -r to find out your kernel version
[03:52] <klerfayt> spawn57: wait there is a package
[03:52] <NetShark> 2.6.17-10-generic
[03:53] <klerfayt> no wait
[03:53] <spawn57> yeap
[03:53] <spawn57> do apt-cache search 2.6.17 or whatever your kernel version is
[03:53] <spawn57> also you can get the nvidia binary version using apt-get
[03:54] <klerfayt> it is "linux-headers-generic"
[03:54] <klerfayt> This package will always depend on the latest generic kernel headers available.
[03:54] <NetShark> linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[03:54] <NetShark> this one?
[03:55] <spawn57> yeah, you might wanna get teh 386 one as well
[03:55] <francesco_> qualcuno mi dice come funziona qui???
[03:55] <MidMark> !it
[03:55] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:55] <lrentz> Any benefits of trying to roll my own kernel.  Kindof a newbie.
[03:56] <spawn57> naw
[03:56] <francesco_> OK, I'll speak english too
[03:56] <spawn57> don't bother
[03:56] <NetShark> ok, got the 386 ones too
[03:56] <lrentz> I dont think my cpu scaling is working correctly.
[03:56] <lrentz> on a core 2 duo.
[03:56] <klerfayt> NetShark: you just do "apt-get install linux-headers-generic"
[03:57] <rhodri> hi, is there a difference in the version of alsa that ships with the edgy releases of ubuntu and kubuntu?
[03:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy all ! :)
[03:58] <NetShark> inux-headers-generic is already the newest version.
[03:58] <NetShark> =L
[03:58] <lrentz> hey
[03:59] <spawn57> NetShark: seems like you have it
[04:00] <klerfayt> NetShark: it is ok then
[04:00] <NetShark> ok, i did all teh things in that guide
[04:00] <spawn57> what're you trying to do?
[04:00] <NetShark> should i exit kde and install the nvidia package?
[04:00] <klerfayt> NetShark: did you blacklist "nv"?
[04:00] <NetShark> hmm
[04:00] <NetShark> not sure
[04:01] <klerfayt> NetShark: yes, now exit, and then in tty sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:01] <rhodri> hi, is there a difference in the version of alsa that ships with the edgy releases of ubuntu and kubuntu?
[04:01] <klerfayt> NetShark: /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common       DISABLED_MODULES="nv"
[04:02] <spawn57> you can install it without restarting
[04:02] <spawn57> rhodri: nope
[04:02] <rhodri> spawn57: ok, thanks for the info!
[04:02] <spawn57> rhodri: =D
[04:02] <NetShark> done
[04:02] <NetShark> disabled nv
[04:03] <klerfayt> NetShark: good now log out of kde and sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:04] <NetShark> ok
[04:05] <NetShark> after kdm stop i can install that package?
[04:06] <klerfayt> NetShark: yeah
[04:06] <NetShark> ok
[04:06] <NetShark> thnaks so far
[04:06] <NetShark> *thanks even
[04:06] <spawn57> i hate the whole sudo thing
[04:07] <eilker> can we have more than 1 graphical session in kde ? like in xp ? i mean user switching....
[04:08] <klerfayt> eilker: yes
[04:10] <xenol> plz can someone help me how to remake ubuntu GRUB screen to SuSE like?
[04:10] <xenol> should i follow this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855&highlight=GfxBoot+%28+Grub+like+suse
[04:10] <nagyv> !build
[04:10] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:11] <xenol> dr_willis u here?
[04:13] <xenol> if i remake ubuntu GRUB screen to SuSE like? should i follow this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855&highlight=GfxBoot+%28+Grub+like+suse
[04:15] <NetShark> ok
[04:15] <NetShark> glxgears work now
[04:15] <NetShark> but i get an error on logout
[04:15] <klerfayt> NetShark: what error?
[04:15] <NetShark> i saved the error log from that window
[04:16] <NetShark> let me paste it on some website
[04:17] <klerfayt> !pastebin
[04:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:18] <NetShark> ok: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36255/
[04:19] <NetShark> this happens every time i click on Logout in kde
[04:19] <klerfayt> NetShark: what crashed? panel?
[04:19] <NetShark> yeah, i get a error dialog
[04:20] <klerfayt> NetShark: and this is connected to nvidia driver?
[04:20] <NetShark> yes
[04:20] <NetShark> let me copy the error msg
[04:20] <NetShark> brb
[04:23] <Zamber> !aiglx
[04:23] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[04:23] <eilker> !sh
[04:23] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:23] <eilker> !bash > eilker
[04:23] <NetShark> The application Konversation crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
[04:24] <Zamber> lol :p
[04:24] <NetShark> The application KDE Session Manager (ksmserver) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
[04:24] <NetShark> these 2 errors
[04:24] <klerfayt> NetShark: wow. and this all happens only if you use nvidia proprietary driver?
[04:24] <NetShark> yes
[04:25] <NetShark> after reboot x-server won't even start
[04:25] <klerfayt> NetShark: didn't you just tell that you installed nvidia drivers?
[04:26] <NetShark> i just installed them (the 3rd time i guess)
[04:26] <NetShark> but this time i got glxgears running
[04:26] <NetShark> :)
[04:26] <klerfayt> and x won't start?
[04:26] <NetShark> it's starting now, but after reboot, no
[04:28] <heinkel_111> ok then, since it is sunday morning and you have nothing else to do, how about giving it a go troubleshooting my kde crashes: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=11829.0
[04:28] <heinkel_111> :-)
[04:28] <NetShark> it's sunday evening here :)
[04:28] <heinkel_111> maybe i should change that to afternoon now
[04:28] <heinkel_111> :P
[04:28] <klerfayt> sudo nvidia-bug-report.sh and send email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with attachment and description?
[04:28] <heinkel_111> i posted the link this morning, and it doesnt look like anyone on at the time had useful suggestions
[04:29] <NetShark> ok, i'll send it
[04:29] <rhodri> hi, i'm following a tutorial that assumes i have libasound version 1.0.12 for edgy, but my edgy only has version 1.0.11, and i checked the ubuntu packages search and that says edgy has 1.0.11 aswell... and fiesty has version 1.0.13... so where does 1.0.12 fit into this, can anyone help?!!?!?!  thanks.
[04:29] <klerfayt> heinkel_111: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIGSEGV
[04:31] <heinkel_111> klerfayt: thanks for the information, but YES my RAM is ok
[04:31] <heinkel_111> klerfayt: i run it 5 time through memcheck with 0 errors
[04:31] <NetShark> are there stable nvidia drivers ?
[04:31] <heinkel_111> but these SIGSEGV errors i get all the time
[04:31] <NetShark> Sysinfo for 'nsa': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.00GHz at 2993 MHz (5985 bogomips), , RAM: 700/1009MB, 133 proc's, 56.14min up
[04:33] <klerfayt> NetShark: 1.0-9631 works fine here without sigsegv
[04:33] <NetShark> hmm
[04:33] <NetShark> i want it to work fine here too
[04:33] <NetShark> let me reboot it
[04:33] <NetShark> maybe it's working better this time
[04:37] <ubuntu> hi
[04:38] <ubuntu> is there any way how to change the grub so that it look as suse?
[04:39] <NetShark> wow
[04:39] <NetShark> it started
[04:39] <NetShark> and i don't get those sigsegv errors anymore
[04:39] <NetShark> one more thing
[04:39] <NetShark> it doesn't retain settings
[04:40] <Vladdy> ati drivers suck O_O
[04:40] <NetShark> i set it to 1024x768@85 Hz
[04:40] <NetShark> and after restart it goes back to 43 Hz
[04:40] <ubuntu> ATI sux but it is possible to run XGL with em?
[04:40] <klerfayt> NetShark: you set it in nvidia-settings?
[04:41] <NetShark> yes
[04:41] <NetShark> the proprietary nvidia control panel
[04:41] <klerfayt> NetShark: this is the default behaviour of nvidia-settings
[04:41] <NetShark> how do I save the settings then?
[04:42] <klerfayt> NetShark: no idea, they do not keep settings here either
[04:42] <NetShark> it's a little bit frustrating
[04:42] <NetShark> nvidia did that to windows drivers too
[04:43] <NetShark> it used to forget overlay settings
[04:43] <NetShark> fortunately there was a registry hack available
[04:43] <NetShark> i think there is a file i can edit?
[04:43] <klerfayt> NetShark: you can do it in gnome
[04:44] <NetShark> I installed kubuntu to get kde
[04:44] <NetShark> i don't really like gnome
[04:44] <klerfayt> NetShark: you have to put nvidia-settings --load-config-only
[04:45] <NetShark> where?
[04:45] <klerfayt> NetShark: somewhere I don't remember :D
[04:45] <NetShark> ok :)))
[04:45] <NetShark> ok, another question
[04:45] <NetShark> how do I register .exe file to open automatically with wine
[04:45] <NetShark> ?
[04:46] <klerfayt> NetShark: right-click on it
[04:47] <klerfayt> NetShark: open with application> other> remember...
[04:47] <NetShark> yes
[04:47] <NetShark> did that already
[04:48] <NetShark> it doesn't remember taht either
[04:48] <NetShark> *that
[04:49] <NetShark> it doesn't even work now :(
[04:49] <NetShark> under ubuntu i could start that app
[04:49] <NetShark> wine is just showing the hourglass, then nothing
[04:50] <klerfayt> NetShark: can you start exe in konsole?
[04:50] <klerfayt> NetShark: cd in folder there exe is located and run    wine thatfile.exe
[04:51] <klerfayt> NetShark: sometimes they don't work with wine unless you cd into folder - again I do not know why
[04:51] <NetShark> fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_LoadKeyboardLayout L"00000409", 0001: stub!
[04:51] <NetShark> this is the first error
[04:51] <NetShark> hmm
[04:52] <klerfayt> NetShark: what keyboard are you using?
[04:52] <NetShark> standard US but with romanian default
[04:52] <NetShark> i could remove that line of code
[04:52] <NetShark> it's an app I wrote
[04:52] <klerfayt> change to us before trying exe with wine
[04:53] <NetShark> ok
[04:53] <klerfayt> I haved used application in the past that only worked with wine then I changed keyboard layout to us
[04:53] <NetShark> in the application?
[04:54] <klerfayt> NetShark: you can do it in kde
[04:55] <klerfayt> NetShark: system settings> regional and language> keyboard layout
[04:55] <NetShark> added romanian
[04:56] <NetShark> to keyboard layouts
[04:59] <NetShark> ok, other applications that doesn't try to load keyboard layouts are working
[04:59] <NetShark> I will just remove that line and recompile
[05:01] <NetShark> another thing :)
[05:01] <NetShark> I can't install nerolinux
[05:01] <NetShark> it installed fine in ubuntu
[05:02] <NetShark> ah
[05:02] <klerfayt> NetShark: what is nerolinux?
[05:02] <NetShark> it asks for libgtk1.2
[05:03] <NetShark> Nero for linux
[05:03] <NetShark> you know... the cd burning app
[05:03] <klerfayt> NetShark: have you tried k3b?
[05:03] <NetShark> not yet
[05:03] <NetShark> is it better?
[05:04] <NetShark> hmm
[05:04] <NetShark> looks nice
[05:04] <NetShark> can I mount ISO files ?
[05:04] <NetShark> as virtual cds
[05:07] <klerfayt> NetShark: and nero lets you mount iso? I should check it out then
[05:08] <NetShark> yeah, it has a component called nero imagedrive
[05:08] <pasku>  /server libres.irc-hispano.org
[05:08] <NetShark> i'm not sure it has it in linux version too
[05:09] <klerfayt> NetShark: you could use command  mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[05:10] <klerfayt> NetShark: ofcourse you should mount somewhere in you home directory instead
[05:10] <NetShark> nice
[05:10] <NetShark> it's doing it natively
[05:10] <NetShark> cool
[05:11] <NetShark> i'm new in linux
[05:12] <Vladdy> hehe
[05:12] <Vladdy> you can even mount the filesystem image that is on the cd :P
[05:12] <Vladdy> of kubuntu installer :O
[05:13] <baphomet> Hello, I wanted to change the background you see when you log into kde, and I changed it in -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 363 2006-12-06 19:20 /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc
[05:13] <baphomet> ... it appears, then  there's that ugly kubuntu login screen
[05:13] <Vladdy> ehm
[05:13] <baphomet> how can I get rid of that ugly loogin screen plaese?
[05:13] <Vladdy> easier to do it elsewhere
[05:13] <baphomet> ah ?
[05:13] <Vladdy> K menu -> system settings -> advanced -> login screen
[05:15] <Vladdy> lot easier :-)
[05:16] <baphomet> ok
[05:16] <baphomet> Vladdy: thank you :)
[05:17] <klerfayt> baphomet: if you want to change the login screen theme (kdm theme) then you should install "kdmtheme"
[05:17] <baphomet> Vladdy: but my wallpaper is there, but there's still that ugly blue kubuntu login wazllpaper that appears
[05:17] <baphomet> Vladdy: apt-get install kdetheme ?
[05:18] <klerfayt> baphomet: kdmtheme
[05:18] <junky> someone can help me
[05:19] <klerfayt> junky: hopefully
[05:19] <junky> i cant run games like open arena, action cube, sauerbraten
[05:20] <junky> im new in kubuntu...
[05:20] <klerfayt> junky: I guess you have to install nvidia proprietary drivers
[05:20] <klerfayt> junky: or ati
[05:21] <klerfayt> junky: what graphics card do you use?
[05:21] <baphomet> Vladdy: sorry but what exactly do I have to do with "kdetheme" ? I see no file called kdetheme...
[05:21] <klerfayt> baphomet: sudo apt-get install kdmtheme not kdetheme
[05:21] <junky> http://phpfi.com/183393
[05:21] <junky> i use nvidia
[05:22] <klerfayt> junky: and have proprietary drivers installed?
[05:22] <baphomet> Vladdy: ok, and then ?
[05:22] <junky> i folow a tutorial...
[05:22] <junky> teory i install... but...
[05:22] <klerfayt> baphomet: I'm not vladdy, press alt-f2 and type in there   kcontrol
[05:23] <klerfayt> junky: can you run glxgears
[05:23] <junky> i dont know... i put this in konsole?
[05:23] <klerfayt> junky: yeah
[05:24] <junky> yeah
[05:24] <junky> i can run it
[05:24] <klerfayt> junky: where did you get sauerbraten?
[05:24] <junky> from the web, but action cube and open arena also dont run
[05:25] <crazyreddwolf> with me being a first time user how would i go about setting up a ftp server
[05:25] <klerfayt> junky: you downloaded  	sauerbraten_2006_12_04_gui_edition_linux.tar.gz  ?
[05:25] <junky> yes
[05:25] <klerfayt> junky: you had to compile it?
[05:26] <junky> i do this make install in .../src
[05:26] <junky> and it do someting...
[05:26] <junky> but the game don run
[05:27] <klerfayt> junky: SDL, SDL-image, SDL-mixer, and OpenGL libraries are installed?
[05:27] <crazyreddwolf> with me being a first time user how would i go about setting up a ftp server
[05:28] <junky> i dont know, i install somethink with adept administrator... but i dont know if i do well because when i search sdl.. there are many results
[05:28] <digilux> ,
[05:29] <klerfayt> junky: libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-image1.2
[05:29] <gsuveg> re
[05:30] <junky> yeah status : installed all this two libsdl-mixer1.2 and libsdl-image1.2
[05:30] <gsuveg> anyonde know a kickoff source or deb?
[05:31] <Jucato> gsuveg: I believe one is available in kde-apps or kde-look
[05:31] <junky> if i put details in libsdl-image1.2 there are 3 conflict
[05:31] <crazyreddwolf> with me being a first time user how would i go about setting up a ftp server
[05:31] <klerfayt> junky: what about libsdl-image1.2-dev? and lidsl-mixer1.2-dev
[05:31] <gsuveg> Jucato: thanks
[05:31] <junky> libsdl-image-dev, libsdl-image1.0-dev and libsdl-image1.1-dev
[05:31] <crazyreddwolf> i have looked at the server guid but still have trouble getting the server up and running
[05:32] <junky> conflit with this
[05:32] <junky> libsdl-image-dev, libsdl-image1.0-dev and libsdl-image1.1-dev
[05:32] <klerfayt> junky: hmm, what repositories are you using? universe, multiverse? something else?
[05:32] <st_iron> hi
[05:32] <junky> i dont know
[05:32] <klerfayt> junky: I don't get conflicts here
[05:32] <junky> i am a newbie..
[05:33] <junky> what is universe and multiverse?
[05:35] <Jucato> junky: <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections.  FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[05:37] <crazyreddwolf> i tryed the apt-get of vsftpd but could not get it to config
[05:37] <digilux> !help
[05:37] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:37] <digilux> xD
[05:38] <klerfayt> junky: cd into directory src/ and type make install
[05:38] <junky> when i put libsdl in adept manager, i have some libsdl(...) installed
[05:39] <klerfayt> junky: use konsole
[05:39] <junky> but with the kubuntu 6.10 cd?
[05:39] <klerfayt> junky: no
[05:39] <klerfayt> cd is a command
[05:39] <junky> a oks
[05:40] <junky> but in the folder game no?
[05:40] <junky> this
[05:40] <junky> ?
[05:40] <klerfayt> junky: in that game folder
[05:40] <klerfayt> junky: find src folder
[05:40] <junky> oks
[05:40] <junky> oks
[05:40] <ajopaul_> i have two sound cards, how do i make one default?
[05:40] <junky> it do something
[05:41] <klerfayt> junky: open konsole, cd /home/yourname/sauerbraten/.../src and then   make install
[05:41] <junky> yyes
[05:41] <junky> i do that and konsole do somethink.... with may lines
[05:41] <junky> and now i try to run game?
[05:42] <klerfayt> junky: I do not know that
[05:42] <junky> ?
[05:42] <klerfayt> klerfayt: doesn't the game have readme or instruction what you have to click to run it?
[05:42] <junky> oks
[05:42] <junky> the game now run!
[05:42] <junky> thx
[05:43] <junky> thanks man
[05:44] <galathalion> how do you check ur hd-status?
[05:46] <klerfayt> galathalion: activity?
[05:47] <galathalion> klerfayt: never mind.. i found out. thnx anyways
[05:48] <] [Enrique] [> hea wenos dias
[05:49] <syntaxx> im having a problem in installing nvidia driver.. i install linux-restricted modules and nvidia glx but whenever i run nvidia-glx-config enable it says Error: unable to load nvidia kernel module anyone knows why?
[05:50] <adz21c> syntaxx: u got nvidia-kernel-common installed?
[05:51] <syntaxx> adz21c: yes
[05:53] <adz21c> are you just using glx-config to set up using the driver? (i never used glx-config before)
[05:53] <the_hammer> hi gang
[05:53] <syntaxx> adz21c: i followed the guide on the wiki nvidiabinary
[05:53] <the_hammer> ive tried kubuntu before it has kde right i get it mixed up with ubntu alot
[05:54] <adz21c> syntaxx: u got the link i never read it
[05:54] <syntaxx> adz21c: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:54] <the_hammer> any of u guys able to update your firefox to firefox2?
[05:55] <adz21c> the_hammer: i am running 2, but i didn't update
[05:55] <the_hammer> im on mepis and i cant seem to update to firefox 2 ive tried 3 times already
[05:55] <adz21c> syntaxx: u using legacy or not?
[05:55] <syntaxx> adz21c: nope
[05:56] <the_hammer> syn ya mean kubnuntu comes with firefox2 as in 2.0?
[05:56] <adz21c> the_hammer: edgy does i think, hold on i check
[05:56] <the_hammer> ok
[05:56] <eilker> !knmap
[05:56] <adz21c> yup i am running 2.0
[05:56] <ubotu> knmap: nmap graphical interface for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1223 kB, installed size 1932 kB
[05:57] <the_hammer> im not sure what all distros are out but i love kde and i love the ones with the apt-get commands,etc
[05:57] <the_hammer> wish i had a list of the distros that use those and then id try them all out
[05:57] <adz21c> syntaxx: u tried setting to the proprietory driver in system settings? pretty much does the same thing
[05:57] <the_hammer> every time i try to look it shows me everything but what i asked for lol
[05:57] <adz21c> :P
[05:58] <adz21c> the_hammer: u on edgy or dapper?
[05:58] <napox> what is the console command for checking the nvidia driver version ?
[05:58] <syntaxx> adz21c: no not yet
[05:58] <the_hammer> not sure
[05:58] <syntaxx> adz21c: but if i followed the guide it supposed to show it right?
[05:58] <the_hammer> dapper looks familure
[05:58] <adz21c> syntaxx: i would give that a go, i am sure it does the same thing
[05:58] <adz21c> syntaxx: what you mean?
[05:59] <adz21c> the_hammer: well i think dapper by default has 1.5 max
[05:59] <syntaxx> adz21c: reading through the guide and followed it right it must work?
[05:59] <the_hammer> what would u recamend for me?
[05:59] <adz21c> syntaxx: should but life isn't always that simple i guess
[06:00] <galathalion> i need a good ftpklient
[06:00] <adz21c> the_hammer: dappers mean't the be the more stable and longer supported one so i would go with that if ur unsure about linux etc, but if u enable the backports repo firefox may be in there
[06:00] <Jucato> galathalion: Konqueror?
[06:00] <galathalion> Jucato: how do you use it?
[06:01] <the_hammer> well my distro here is really messed up badly
[06:01] <Jucato> galathalion: ftp://ftp.blahblah.com (or whatever URL)
[06:01] <adz21c> the_hammer: how so?
[06:01] <the_hammer> i screwed up firefox
[06:01] <eilker>  people  lets say i am gonna start to scan  computers's telnet ports with nmap, which are beetwen <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> , i just wanna scan 23. port, what will the command be ?
[06:01] <the_hammer> just wanna try fresh
[06:02] <the_hammer> i dont know a whole lot about linux and when i mess up i dunno how to undo and fix up what i did
[06:03] <adz21c> the_hammer: well if your unfamiliar with linux i would stick to dapper, its mean't to be the stable one i think so less likely to run into issues (or atleast thats the theory)
[06:03] <syntaxx> adz21c: well it works now.. i just reconfigure xorg
[06:03] <adz21c> syntaxx: ah ok, that didn't occur to me :P it using nvidia?
[06:03] <the_hammer> when it comes to software i like being updated with all the new stuff examples fire fox <IP_ADDRESS> or something is the version my distro has BUT ya can get firefox2.0 from the net
[06:03] <syntaxx> adz21c: it using nv before but now it works :)
[06:04] <adz21c> the_hammer: well then you can try edgy, that has the latest stuff
[06:04] <adz21c> syntaxx: so its now using "nvidia" ?
[06:04] <Ramseti> hi all
[06:05] <the_hammer> ok can ya tell me stuff about edgy?
[06:05] <the_hammer> like is there a distro with kde 3.5 and the apt-get command or does that all change?
[06:05] <syntaxx> adz21c: yep
[06:06] <ajopaul_> i have two sound cards, how do i make one default?
[06:06] <adz21c> the_hammer: you can get dapper to use kde 3.5, my parents machine is
[06:06] <syntaxx> adz21c: ok now my another problem.. i always modprobe -r bt878 then modprobe bt878 how can i make do it automatically so it will do it everytime i restart? its kinda annoying
[06:06] <the_hammer> ok
[06:06] <the_hammer> are u using kubuntu?
[06:06] <adz21c> the_hammer: as for edgy i barely noticed a difference, firefox 2 is one of the few news things i even noticed
[06:06] <adz21c> the_hammer: yes
[06:07] <the_hammer> ok well ill give that a try then
[06:07] <the_hammer> i have kubuntu here
[06:07] <adz21c> syntaxx: hold on there is a file 1 moment i look
[06:07] <the_hammer> i think its 6.0
[06:07] <the_hammer> is there a newer one
[06:07] <junky> hi, someone can say how i can change brighness in games??? lice action cube, sauerbraten...
[06:07] <adz21c> 6.10
[06:07] <junky> i see all very dark
[06:07] <junky> in game
[06:08] <the_hammer> ok i guess ill have to d/l that alright ill find it and install it
[06:08] <Ramseti> somebody can help me about ati driver installing, when i write in console sudo module-assistant prepare the console answer that module-assistant does not exist why???
[06:08] <galathalion> Jucato: konqueror doesnt work so good
[06:08] <Jucato> galathalion: what do you mean?
[06:08] <galathalion> Jucato: it doesnt load
[06:08] <adz21c> syntaxx: try putting the module name into /etc/modprobe (edit as sudo/root)
[06:09] <syntaxx> ok thanks
[06:09] <Jucato> are you sure you typed in the correct URL? and if the ftp requires authentication, the correct username/password?
[06:09] <galathalion> Jucato: says no item-no files-no folders
[06:09] <the_hammer> ok grabbing the 6.10
[06:09] <the_hammer> dvd 64 iso
[06:10] <adz21c> the_hammer: thats what i am running
[06:10] <junky> ?
[06:10] <the_hammer> cool
[06:10] <Jucato> galathalion: maybe the ftp directory is really empty? I dunno. it works perfectly here. what's the URL, I'll try to test
[06:10] <adz21c> the_hammer: only problem i have (which a handful of people have had so i read) is when i boot up the colors suck, but soon as i run a GL program it fixes that ... tis weird
[06:11] <kris> Hi. I'm going to be installing Ubuntu in the next couple of days. I'm coming over from Gentoo. I also have a Windows partition on my drive. I'm wondering if there is any way that I can repartition some of my drive, but leave the Windows partition alone and undamaged?
[06:11] <adz21c> kris: yes
[06:11] <kris> It's the first two partitions on my drive.
[06:11] <Ramseti> adz21c:  can you help me man....?
[06:11] <adz21c> Ramseti: dunno whats problem sorry :-)
[06:12] <kris> adz21c: What are the risks?
[06:12] <Ramseti> i'm lookin for google but i don't find the solution
[06:12] <Ramseti> during ati driver installing, when i write in console sudo module-assistant prepare the console answer that module-assistant does not exist why???
[06:12] <Ramseti> i've just installed ubuntu 6.10
[06:12] <adz21c> kris: I never tried shrinking paritions with kubuntu if thats what your asking, I did on mandriva and all went smooth, but if u have free space and dont even want to resize ur windows partition then ur ok
[06:12] <adz21c> kris: during install there is a partition manager
[06:13] <kris> adz21c: Got it. Thank you.
[06:13] <adz21c> Ramseti: ooooo hard one, i never done an ati install
[06:13] <Ramseti> okbut
[06:13] <Ramseti> the prob is about
[06:13] <Ramseti> the assistant-module
[06:13] <adz21c> nver had to do that either
[06:13] <kris> Question 2: Does the Kubuntu Live CD have a samba server on it?
[06:14] <adz21c> kris: u mean during the live install?
[06:14] <Ramseti> the assistant-module is not included with the ubuntu installation or i need to install something?
[06:14] <kris> adz21c: I mean while I'm running the live cd. Say that I wanted to run the live cd for a couple of days, could I share my printer?
[06:14] <adz21c> Ramseti: entirely possible ur missing a package, hold on i have a peak see what i can find
[06:15] <Ramseti> oh man thanks you are rare
[06:15] <adz21c> kris: not by default, u just have to install samba while live runs (doesn't do anything on your hdd just to live in memory) then go on as if its not live
[06:15] <kris> adz21c: apt-get install samba?
[06:15] <adz21c> kris: spot on
[06:16] <kris> adz21c: See. Us gentooers aren't all bad ... :-)
[06:18] <galathalion> Jucato: how do you set passive mode in konqueror then?
[06:18] <adz21c> Ramseti: `sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential`?
[06:20] <adz21c> galathalion: from my experience konqueror is a good ftp manager for most FTP stuff, but the gui is geared up for general file management, if u want something taylored specifically to FTP try kftpgrabber maybe? not used it much myself but seems like it knows what its doing atleast
[06:22] <Jucato> adz21c: you've tried splitting views?
[06:22] <adz21c> Jucato: oh yea, like i say for most like say 90% of stuff konqueror is more than adequate
[06:22] <galathalion> well.. it doesnt work for me..
[06:22] <Jucato> what's the other 10%?
[06:23] <adz21c> i can't queue ... which i don't really use, hence reason i tend to use konqueror
[06:23] <BluesKaj> my flash isn't working on youtube...just updated flash 9 plugin yesterday ....worked ok then, but not anymore
[06:23] <adz21c> and i am sure theres other small lil features i don't know about
[06:24] <the_hammer> gonna take 4hrs to grab this dvd and i gotta go out for a while so i hope upon return it will be all done :)
[06:24] <the_hammer> gonna take kids to see santa :)
[06:24] <adz21c> the_hammer: laters :-)
[06:24] <the_hammer> ill be here for a short still
[06:24] <the_hammer> adz21c u always here?
[06:25] <adz21c> the_hammer: i have been lately, but i am not when i am at work ... and sometimes i forget to set myself to away :-)
[06:25] <the_hammer> ahh your ahead of me cuz i dunno how to set away lol
[06:26] <the_hammer> u use xchat?
[06:26] <adz21c> lol /away
[06:26] <adz21c> konversation
[06:26] <the_hammer> ahh ok
[06:26] <the_hammer> i seen another neat looking irc client called KVirc or something
[06:26] <the_hammer> seen it when i tried out arklinux
[06:26] <adz21c> yes, i saw that was quite popular
[06:26] <adz21c> not looked into it though
[06:27] <cloakable> the_hammer: It's on Kubuntu too :)
[06:27] <the_hammer> ya its nice looking cool i look forward to trying it again
[06:27] <the_hammer> do any of u guys use eyecandy apps?
[06:28] <the_hammer> superkaramba?
[06:28] <cloakable> Yeah. I use SuperKaramba
[06:28] <adz21c> i use superkaramba
[06:28] <the_hammer> cool
[06:28] <cloakable> KBFX too
[06:28] <galathalion> adz21c: thank you.. finally a _real_ client ^^
[06:28] <the_hammer> one thing i cant get working is liquid weather
[06:28] <the_hammer> but i assume its got something to do with my distro
[06:29] <adz21c> galathalion: np, like i said before konqueror is great for quick file transfers, but kftpgrabber is geared up specifically for ftp and tends to following the same gui style layout
[06:29] <adz21c> as others
[06:29] <galathalion> adz21c: yes thats what i wanted
[06:30] <the_hammer> bbl all
[06:30] <the_hammer> have a wonderfull day
[06:30] <adz21c> later
[06:31] <ultm8> hello every1
[06:32] <ultm8> can any1 help me, am trying to upload files from my computer to my lan server using openssh
[06:32] <adz21c> ultm8: i do my best but no guarantuees :P
[06:32] <ultm8> oh cool adz21c
[06:33] <ultm8> yeah for instance i'm on this computer.... i want to move a file on my desktop myfile.zip over to my home/public_html
[06:34] <itch^> Hello guys. Can somebody give me hand with a problem regading a kernel compilation. Each time i try to complile the kernel, I get this error:" make[1] : *** [.tmp_vmlinux1]  Error 1 / make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>' / make: *** [debian/stamp-build-kernel]  Error 2 "
[06:34] <ultm8> what commands do i need
[06:34] <ibert> hi! I'm having big troubles with the gam_server. anybody knows a clean way to deactivate him?
[06:34] <ultm8> i know this sounds newbish
[06:34] <adz21c> via ssh?
[06:34] <ultm8> yes
[06:35] <adz21c> you need to create an sftp connection as far as i know
[06:35] <ultm8> oki doki
[06:35] <ultm8> can i ask how to do this?
[06:35] <verbose> adz21c: you can also use scp
[06:35] <adz21c> can u?
[06:35] <adz21c> ace
[06:36] <adz21c> how you do that cos i am still quite noobish :P
[06:36] <verbose> for example: scp myfile.zip user@host:myfile.zip
[06:36] <ibert> ultm8: in konqueror type fish://hostname
[06:36] <ultm8> using gnome
[06:36] <ibert> ultm8: then you'll get the / of the hostname
[06:36] <ibert> ultm8: sorry
[06:37] <adz21c> verbose: well you learn something new everyday :D
[06:37] <verbose> adz21c: sorry, thought you were asking...that was directed at ultm8
[06:37] <adz21c> lol yea, well i was also, i only knew of sftp
[06:39] <itch^> Hello guys. Can somebody give me hand with a problem regading a kernel compilation. Each time i try to complile the kernel, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36286/
[06:40] <ibert> the only way to deactivate gam_server is to chmod?
[06:41] <ultm8> basically adz21c i followed this joomla tutorialhttp://www.parcival.org/2006/07/14/howto-install-joomla-on-your-very-own-ubuntu-server/
[06:41] <ultm8> i install samba too
[06:41] <adz21c> ultm8: you tried verbose suggestion?
[06:41] <ultm8> erm hold on will scroll up to see what he put
[06:42] <ultm8> 1 second
[06:42] <ultm8> yeah i can see my server up
[06:42] <ultm8> when typing http://localhost
[06:43] <ultm8> but nothing with fish://hostname
[06:43] <itch^> Hello guys. Can somebody give me hand with a problem regarding a kernel compilation. Each time i try to complile the kernel, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36286/
[06:44] <ultm8> i can log into each computer using openssh
[06:44] <ultm8> but just don't know how to transfer files over
[06:44] <adz21c> ultm8: not i mean in ssh tried the command scp as described by verbose
[06:44] <ibert> ultm8: man scp
[06:44] <ultm8> erm scp nope
[06:44] <ultm8> could u give me an example in how to using it
[06:44] <ultm8> :o)
[06:44] <ultm8> plz
[06:45] <ibert> ultm8: scp file user@host:/path/to/file
[06:45] <ultm8> oh cool
[06:45] <ultm8> k give me 1 sec to try out
[06:47] <ultm8>  sudo scp /home/myprofile/Desktop/LINUX smb://mshome/myservername/myprofile/public_html/
[06:47] <ultm8> would i put something like this?
[06:47] <ibert> ultm8: no
[06:48] <ibert> ultm8: you have to read for yourself: scp file user@host:/path/to/file
[06:48] <ibert> ultm8: forget smb:
[06:48] <ultm8> oki doki
[06:48] <ibert> ultm8: just username@host:/pathtofile/
[06:49] <ultm8> which computer do i need to type this into? my server or the 1 i want to send files from to?
[06:49] <ultm8> or both?
[06:49] <ibert> ultm8: would ou please be so kind and read the man page of scp? thanks
[06:50] <ibert> ultm8: man scp
[06:50] <ultm8> yeah sure
[06:50] <ultm8> thx iber
[06:50] <ultm8> t
[06:54] <ultm8> ok i have read the scp
[06:54] <ultm8> am no closer to moving files from 1 computer to the other though :o(
[06:54] <zorglu_> !scp
[06:54] <ubotu> scp is a secure way of copying files across networks using ssh. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - winscp is a windows scp client
[06:55] <zorglu_> ultm8: this is a way to do it
[06:55] <zorglu_> !samba
[06:55] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:55] <zorglu_> this is another way, harder to setup tho
[06:55] <zorglu_> !ftp
[06:55] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[06:55] <zorglu_> ftp is another :)
[06:55] <ultm8> sure
[06:55] <ultm8> i have a default ubuntu lamp box installed
[06:56] <ultm8> and using ubuntu on the other copm
[06:56] <ultm8> comp
[06:56] <ultm8> basically i want to copy 1 folder over to my lamp box's public_html i created
[06:56] <ultm8> using scp or openssh
[06:56] <TheGateKeeper> ultm8, you trying to move files on your own lan?
[06:56] <ultm8> over my lan
[06:57] <ultm8> box computers are on same lan
[06:57] <TheGateKeeper> !nfs
[06:57] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:57] <TheGateKeeper> ultm8, ^^^^
[06:57] <zorglu_> 	http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_copy_files.2Ffolders_from_remote_Ubuntu_machine_into_local_machine_.28scp.29
[06:57] <zorglu_> i can hardly do more :)
[06:57] <ultm8> wow u guys r sharp
[06:57] <ultm8> :o)
[06:58] <ultm8> will check out the posts
[06:58] <ultm8> thx u
[06:58] <TheGateKeeper> ultm8, you only need to use ssh if you are moving files accross an unsecured network
[06:58] <ultm8> yeah sure i understand this
[06:58] <ultm8> but i thought while i have it set up
[06:58] <ultm8> what not try how to do it
[06:58] <ultm8> using this method
[06:58] <ultm8> why not what
[06:59] <TheGateKeeper> ultm8, well... :-)
[06:59] <ultm8> i thought i might just have to type in 1 long command and boom it would cross over
[06:59] <ultm8> i can log into the server from this computer
[07:00] <TheGateKeeper> try with konqueror
[07:01] <ultm8> only problem is am using the gnome environment
[07:01] <ultm8> not kde
[07:01] <ultm8> i should be on the #ubuntu irc really
[07:01] <TheGateKeeper> ok with whatever gnome uses for konqueror
[07:01] <ultm8> am not sure what that is to be honest
[07:01] <ultm8> hehehe
[07:02] <kkathman> how do I check the version of a program in the repo-cache?
[07:02] <kkathman> must be an option with apt-cache I reckon
[07:02] <TheGateKeeper> ultm8, it's all the same under the surface
[07:02] <ultm8> yeah nice core, different skin
[07:04] <ultm8> scp -r username@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/username/remotefile.txt <--- thats the command i was looking for
[07:04] <TheGateKeeper> kkathman, apt:/ <-- on konqueror will tell you all you need to know
[07:06] <ibert> TheGateKeeper: wow. didn't know this apt:/ ... great thing
[07:07] <TheGateKeeper> ibert, firefox also has a repo search engine
[07:07] <ultm8> zorglu u da man
[07:07] <ultm8> or women
[07:07] <ultm8> whichever
[07:07] <ibert> TheGateKeeper: Do you hava a tip how to get rid of gam_server?
[07:07] <ganymed_> are the ttys disabled in edgy by default???
[07:09] <TheGateKeeper> ibert, don't think so, apart from apt-get remove --purge <package>
[07:09] <kkathman> TheGateKeeper:  well Im trying to see what version Blender is on the repos to know whether I should get it there, or download directly from the home page
[07:11] <TheGateKeeper> kkathman, this? http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/graphics/blender
[07:12] <kkathman> looks like 2.42 but the home page lists only 2.32 available hmm
[07:12] <kkathman> 2.4 on Windows, 2.4.2 on FreeBSD
[07:16] <ganymed_> are the ttys disabled in edgy by default???
[07:17] <ganymed_> i would like to switch to the console, but i get a graphics failure. i wanna know if this is due to the ati drivers or if the ttys are disabled anyway?
[07:17] <ganymed_> .
[07:19] <xenol> plz r repositories from ubuntu for synaptic same for adept and kubuntu?
[07:20] <ganymed_> yes
[07:20] <xenol> hehe
[07:21] <xenol> so i can change default with onesi found for ubuntu?
[07:21] <ganymed_> what do you wanna do?
[07:22] <xenol> i have repositories for adept in kubuntu i found repositories for synaptic for ubuntu
[07:22] <xenol> can i use those from ubuntu?
[07:22] <xenol> !restricted format
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restricted format - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <xwolf-> !restrictedformats
[07:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:22] <xenol> ty :)
[07:22] <Zamber> wtf is this "Load  "vbe"" in xorg.conf ?
[07:22] <xwolf-> ^^
[07:22] <Zamber> in the Module section
[07:23] <ganymed_> they are the same
[07:24] <ganymed_> there is no difference in official repos except you do not actually have official ones.
[07:25] <ganymed_> but yes, you can use them, but there won't be difference as long as it is the same ubuntu version (edgy, e.g.). otherwise you might get into trouble not using official repos
[07:25] <xenol> i found for ubuntu dapper and i have kubuntu dapper
[07:25] <xenol> so it is ok
[07:25] <xenol> ?
[07:27] <ganymed_> again, kubuntu only differs in one respect from ubuntu. it has the package "kubuntu-desktop" (a meta package) installed by default while not having all the gnome stuff
[07:27] <xenol> aha
[07:27] <ganymed_> so there is NO difference, no matter if you have ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu and what might be invented in future
[07:27] <xenol> should i backup my original lst?
[07:28] <ganymed_> ok, what did you not understand? why would you wanna change your repos? synaptic and adept use the same sources.lst, which is the same for (k)ubuntu
[07:28] <the_hammer> i hate gnome its horrible
[07:28] <ganymed_> THAT is a statement
[07:28] <xenol> i undrstand i am gonna change all repos
[07:29] <the_hammer> lol
[07:29] <xenol> but dunno if i will need the original file
[07:29] <ganymed_> ok, why???
[07:29] <ganymed_> why do you wanna do this?
[07:29] <xenol> cause i cant find libxine-extracodecs in repos i have
[07:30] <the_hammer> could try a google search xenol
[07:30] <the_hammer> ive had to do that a few times with stuff i wanted
[07:30] <xenol> why if they r part of repos i find? :P
[07:30] <kris> Hi. I'm trying to install kubuntu. I'm at the "prepare mount points" screen, and have selected a device to use as my root partition, but it is telling me that I don't have a root file system.
[07:31] <xenol> do u have / ?
[07:31] <kris> Yes.
[07:31] <xenol> hmmm
[07:31] <the_hammer> ive always done things the more complicated way i guess lol
[07:31] <kris> It's 2 Gb in size.
[07:32] <the_hammer> anyone here use liquidweather?
[07:32] <ganymed_> xenol: now we are getting to the point
[07:32] <xenol> kris sry i cant help am still noob having kubutu second day now
[07:32] <xenol> ganymed: if i need to backup my original surces.lst
[07:32] <kris> Gotcha.
[07:32] <ganymed_> read the tut on restricted formats
[07:32] <dennister> hi ppl
[07:33] <the_hammer> kris do u have a primary and swap parition made?
[07:33] <kris> Yes.
[07:33] <ganymed_> otherwise this might be considered a RTFM question
[07:33] <xenol> k thx
[07:33] <kris> Question: on other linux distros, I had no problems with having a logical partition as my root partition. Could that be a problem here?
[07:33] <the_hammer> im not sure why your having a hard time then wish i could help but im somewhat a neoob myself
[07:34] <the_hammer> it might be
[07:34] <the_hammer> i set mine both as primarys
[07:34] <ganymed_> xenol: add multiverse to your repos and everything should work
[07:35] <the_hammer> i dont like the partition options in some distros i like the one in slack
[07:35] <ORiON-> kris, the answer is no.
[07:35] <the_hammer> allows u to more define
[07:35] <dennister> Q: i've now registered my nick, and in trying to configure the client, Konversation, what goes in the AutoIdentify Service field?
[07:35] <TheGateKeeper> kris, you need to have a partition that is at least 5gb in size to install kubuntu
[07:35] <the_hammer> i use slack to partition then i use what ever distro i wanna install
[07:36] <kris> ORiON: No, as in a logical root partition won't cause me problems?
[07:36] <dennister> hi TheGateKeeper :)
[07:36] <TheGateKeeper> kris, probable less with a server install
[07:36] <kris> TheGateKeeper: I have multiple partitions.
[07:36] <TheGateKeeper> hiya dennister
[07:36] <ORiON-> i installed my root partition on logical
[07:36] <ORiON-> no problems
[07:36] <kris> 3G for /, 24G for usr, 24G for home, 3G for var
[07:36] <ORiON-> dont do it
[07:36] <kris> Got it.
[07:36] <ORiON-> 3G is nothing for root
[07:37] <_patrick> hi - how can i check if my graphic card is working well? just glxgears or sth 'real' :)
[07:37] <kris> What if I have a 24G usr partition?
[07:37] <the_hammer> wont get to far with 3gigs
[07:37] <xenol> damn i didnt set  GB to /usr does it matter?
[07:37] <TheGateKeeper> kris, root takes about 4gb with / & /home on seperate partitions
[07:37] <kris> OK ... but I'm mount /tmp, /var, /boot, /usr, and /home all on diff partitions.
[07:38] <bertx> hi!
[07:38] <kris> Will it still take that much?
[07:38] <the_hammer> the way i partition i make my swap same size as my ram and then what ever is left over i use that as my primary
[07:38] <ORiON-> kris, to use /var on the same hd is useless
[07:38] <kris> ORiON: I'm sorry, I don't understand.
[07:38] <ironfroggy> how can i add a user to cups? or, even better, allow anonymous printing?
[07:38] <ORiON-> how many hardrives do u have?
[07:39] <the_hammer> example:my primary is 249546.77 and my swap is 509.97
[07:39] <xenol> plz where can i find libxine-extracodecs?
[07:40] <dennister> kris: i have a root partition on my server install of 15G, home gets the same, plus a 200G xfs partition for /var/lib (mine is a mythtv box
[07:40] <kris> All I'm saying is that when I used Gentoo, I had a 2G root partition, and it was more than 50% free. That was with only /dev, /bin, /sbin, and /etc on it.
[07:40] <ORiON-> use extra repos
[07:40] <ORiON-> edit your sources.list
[07:40] <xenol> done
[07:40] <xenol> but cant find it on repos i have :/
[07:41] <the_hammer> Gentoo now theres a pain in the arse distro lol
[07:41] <ORiON-> xenxol... do u know how to edit the file?
[07:41] <xenol> k have it now :P
[07:41] <xenol> zep
[07:41] <xenol> yep
[07:41] <dennister> gentoo is also about truly minimal installs, only what you actually need; ubuntu  is different, a bit more bloat, but not that much...still tiny compared to others
[07:41] <the_hammer> ya i like maximum install distros
[07:42] <dennister> i actually blame kde for that 'bloat' but I like kde, so...
[07:42] <nic0> debian <3
[07:42] <the_hammer> smallest distro ive found so far is dsl (dam small linux)
[07:42] <the_hammer> i use that on my lappy lol
[07:42] <the_hammer> its 50mb in tottal
[07:42] <ORiON-> i dont see any reason to use such a distro unless u have a really old pc
[07:42] <the_hammer> my lappy is younger then a dinosour lol
[07:42] <nic0> i normally use backtrack live cd on my laptop which is slax
[07:43] <nic0> otherwise ill boot directly into debian on it
[07:43] <the_hammer> my lappy is so old it cant boot that
[07:43] <B-Minus_> whats the apt get command to clean the temp folder again ?
[07:43] <the_hammer> ive tried
[07:43] <ORiON-> apt-get clean
[07:43] <B-Minus_> tnx
[07:43] <nic0> my Acer Aspire is actually very compatible with a lot of the distros out of the box which is ironic
[07:43] <ORiON-> i recommend u to use aptitude
[07:44] <kris> Well, that still doesn't answer my question: why is the install screen saying that I don't have a root file system, when I've selected a partition to use as root?
[07:44] <B-Minus_> why is that
[07:44] <xenol> ok i got new problem i found codecs i need
[07:44] <dennister> anyone for my Konversation question? what goes in the AutoIdentify's Service field?
[07:44] <ORiON-> its a bit more advanced
[07:44] <xenol> i request install but i dont see them as installed :/
[07:44] <ORiON-> u can do search with aptitude for example
[07:44] <nic0> because it isnt a common laptop
[07:44] <nic0> i got the walmart special :P
[07:45] <ORiON-> dennister... unless u have more than one identify leave it alone
[07:45] <nic0> the only troubles ive had was with some acpi functions
[07:45] <xenol> orion wat need to do? use apt get?
[07:45] <ORiON-> for what?
[07:45] <nic0> i just downloaded kubuntu to try it out.. i'm not liking it
[07:45] <dennister> ORiON-: i do, and have just registered them, now it takes longer to login
[07:45] <xenol> codecs
[07:46] <the_hammer> the only time ive seen that error is when partition isnt set right
[07:46] <dennister> freenode's directions also say to configure your client to automatically enter the password
[07:46] <dennister> so that's what I'm trying to do
[07:46] <the_hammer> apt-get install win32 codecs
[07:46] <ORiON-> can u upload a screenshot of your installion screen?
[07:47] <kris> Well. I guess I'll just do this the old fashoned way: fdisk!
[07:47] <ORiON-> u said u used gentoo before right?
[07:47] <the_hammer> i use cfdisk
[07:47] <kris> ORiON: Ya.
[07:48] <the_hammer> alot easyer to do it that way
[07:48] <ORiON-> for how long?
[07:48] <kris> ORiON: Uhm, couple years.
[07:48] <kris> ORiON: 3-4
[07:48] <ORiON-> ooh... i dont know much pplz who left gentoo after such a long time
[07:49] <the_hammer> lol i couldnt get past the install of it
[07:49] <kris> ORiON: Well, I'm a college student now, and no longer really have the time to maintain it.
[07:49] <ORiON-> but i am sure u gonna get love at ubuntu too :p
[07:49] <kris> Ya. Less configuration. ;-)
[07:49] <Murchadh> !kubuntu firewall
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu firewall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <xenol> ok it is installing those codecs now :P
[07:49] <Murchadh> !default firewall
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about default firewall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <ORiON-> gl
[07:50] <kris> ORiON: Thanks.
[07:50] <the_hammer> xenol the win32 codecs?
[07:51] <Murchadh> Hi all. What is the recomended firewall for Kubuntu 6.10? (If there is one)
[07:51] <xenol> yup all i need for video
[07:51] <xenol> mentioned in restrictedformats
[07:51] <ORiON-> i am using firestarter
[07:51] <ORiON-> its working great
[07:51] <the_hammer> ok in your sysn thingy search libdvd and install everything it lists off
[07:51] <the_hammer> for libdvd
[07:52] <the_hammer> theres between 7 to 10 of them if i remember right
[07:52] <ORiON-> 9
[07:52] <xenol> do i need to restart PC or no after codec isntall?
[07:52] <kris> Wow. I never realized how much space the journal took up on a file system. For a 24G partition, the journal is taking up 1.37G. That's with nothing else on it but the journal!
[07:52] <BluesKaj> Installed the Flashplayer 9 , now flash won't work on youtube ... anyone have a fix for this or shoulf i revert to the previous version ?
[07:52] <ORiON-> no need
[07:52] <the_hammer> nope dont need a reboot
[07:52] <the_hammer> this isnt windows lol
[07:52] <spamer> 		##c Cannot send to channel
[07:52] <spamer> 		##c Cannot send to channel
[07:52] <spamer> 		##c Cannot send to channel
[07:52] <spamer> 		##c Cannot send to channel
[07:52] <spamer> 		##c Cannot send to channel
[07:52] <spamer> 		##c Cannot send to channel
[07:52] <spamer> 		##c Cannot send to channel
[07:52] <spamer> 		##c Cannot send to channel
[07:52] <spamer> 		##c Cannot send to channel
[07:52] <spamer> 		##c Cannot send to channel
[07:52] <BluesKaj> !ops
[07:52] <ubotu> Help!  Me too on my 6.06 system. On my fresh new install it's requesting 25 qt files, so I was wondering if there was a more kde integrated option.
[07:53] <spamer> 		##c Cannot send to channel
[07:53] <kris> Can we kick spammer?
[07:53] <ORiON-> blue... i am using flash 9 and its working fine at youtube
[07:53] <ORiON-> what browser r u using?
[07:53] <BluesKaj> FF
[07:53] <ORiON-> version?
[07:53] <apokryphos> this guy struck yesterday, too, IIRC
[07:53] <BluesKaj> 9
[07:53] <BluesKaj> 2.0 FF
[07:53] <xenol> another question i have updates for mz software as pzthon, c++ palm etc if i dont  have it will it download and install it?
[07:54] <ORiON-> blue how did u install the flash?
[07:54] <ORiON-> apt?
[07:54] <BluesKaj> yup
[07:54] <the_hammer> libdvdcss2 try to see if ya can find that 1
[07:55] <heinkel_111> apokryphos: why do operators on freenode channels only assume the operator role for whatever action they do?
[07:55] <ORiON-> there is not such a package
[07:55] <ORiON-> oopz
[07:55] <ORiON-> there is
[07:55] <ORiON-> my mistake
[07:55] <heinkel_111> apokryphos: on quakenet people that are operators always are operators...
[07:55] <apokryphos> heinkel_111: not always the case, but most of the time. Secret sudden attack ;-)
[07:56] <the_hammer> i use mepis and its based off of ubuntu and i got libdvdcss2
[07:56] <heinkel_111> O_o I saw one! I saw one! they are out there to get'cha if ya don't behave!
[07:56] <apokryphos> heinkel_111: yeah, on other networks people have it because they think it's a proper status. But we're all Ubuntu users, same status. Just some of us help with channel facilitation
[07:56] <the_hammer> mind ya i had to edit the sources.list
[07:57] <ORiON-> blue... does the flash working on sites other than youtube?
[07:58] <Murchadh> Guess I'll stick with firestarter. It's doing it's job after all!
[07:58] <xenol> NICE!
[07:58] <BluesKaj> ORiON-, transfered the libflashplayer.so over to the  /usr/lib/firefox/plugins ok after removing the old version ...funny thing id that the plugin worked last nite , but now it doesn't work and there are no error messages either ...something is missing
[07:58] <xenol> wrking :D
[07:59] <BluesKaj> ORiON-, like url .. ?
[07:59] <ORiON-> url for a site using flash?
[07:59] <BluesKaj> yes
[07:59] <ORiON-> lol
[08:00] <ORiON-> cant u find one for yourself? :p
[08:00] <BluesKaj> how can you tell ...there so many plugins :)
[08:02] <doppelganger_> hi guys, how do you upgrade a particular package using apt-get? (i've googled) i'm trying to upgrade beryl so i'll get some of it's newer features
[08:04] <ORiON-> y not to upgrate all the packages?
[08:04] <doppelganger_> i just didn't want to sit through an upgrade of it all
[08:04] <ORiON-> ok
[08:04] <doppelganger_> is there not a way short of doing that?
[08:05] <ORiON-> so just install the particular package
[08:05] <ORiON-> u can see all the upgradable packages
[08:05] <xenol> plz is there anz waz i can close all opened windows?
[08:05] <ORiON-> and install manually the packages u want to upgrade
[08:06] <doppelganger_> oh ok, so install will also upgrade them?  i gotcha
[08:06] <ORiON-> yup
[08:06] <z0id> what happened to compiz-kde?
[08:08] <doppelganger_> well, install says it's already installed  \/
[08:09] <doppelganger_> er =/
[08:09] <ccc> z0id: compiz-kde?
[08:09] <ORiON-> xenol... close them with the keyboard its much faster than the mouse :p
[08:09] <doppelganger_> but i know it's not the latest one, because it doesn't have that new flame thing that my one at work does
[08:09] <ORiON-> so use
[08:09] <ORiON-> reinstall istead of install
[08:09] <junky> hello
[08:09] <wonderboy> hi all
[08:09] <z0id> ccc: the kde specific compiz package? like compiz-gnome on ubuntu
[08:10] <doppelganger_> will try, thanks
[08:10] <junky> someone can say me why i see the pictures with low colors?
[08:10] <wonderboy> I have a question
[08:10] <ORiON-> junky? where do u see them?
[08:10] <wonderboy> I have no sound
[08:11] <ORiON-> when u play mp3? or no sound at all?
[08:11] <wonderboy> and i don't know why
[08:11] <wonderboy> no sound at all
[08:11] <junky> on internet or my pictures there are low colors...
[08:11] <junky> low difiniion
[08:11] <junky> no good quality
[08:11] <wonderboy> is somebody who can help me
[08:12] <junky> how i can configure to good qualitiy
[08:12] <junky> ?
[08:12] <ORiON-> and the icons for example... r they look good?
[08:12] <junky> yes
[08:12] <ORiON-> wonderboy... check if the system recognized your sound card
[08:12] <wonderboy> how
[08:12] <wonderboy> ?
[08:13] <ORiON-> run lshw at console
[08:13] <ironfroggy> how to i get kprinter to configure the print server? it says i dont have access to do that, but i dont know how to get such access.
[08:13] <junky> wonderboy put alsamixer in konsole
[08:13] <junky> an see if there are MM o OO
[08:13] <junky> if there put MM= mute  and OO=on
[08:14] <ORiON-> it called kmixer
[08:14] <wonderboy> i don't know how to do it
[08:14] <wonderboy> i'm a beginer in linux
[08:14] <ironfroggy> im a member of the lpadmin group. what else do i need to do?
[08:15] <junky> and me who i can confiure good qulity of pictures?
[08:15] <ORiON-> wonder... press alt+f2 and run "kmix" from there
[08:15] <ORiON-> u use kde right?
[08:15] <wonderboy> I write just like that?
[08:15] <wonderboy> kmix
[08:15] <ORiON-> without ""
[08:15] <wonderboy> ?
[08:15] <ORiON-> yup
[08:15] <ganymed_> i would like to switch to the console, but i get a graphics failure. i wanna know if this is due to the ati drivers or if the ttys are disabled anyway?
[08:16] <wonderboy> done
[08:16] <wonderboy> and then
[08:16] <ORiON-> ganymed_ r u tring to switch with alt+ctrl+f#?
[08:16] <judgen> anyone got a troubleshooting page for the fglrx driver?
[08:17] <ORiON-> unmute everything
[08:17] <ORiON-> raise the volume
[08:20] <paul___> whats a good mp3 player for kubuntu? one of the ones it comes with, like amarok?
[08:21] <junky> and me?
[08:21] <ORiON-> amarok pwnz :p
[08:21] <Zamber> mpd ownz ;P
[08:21] <ORiON-> very recommended
[08:21] <ORiON-> mpd?
[08:21] <paul___> ok well my sound isn't working.... how should I go about fixing this? drivers?
[08:21] <Zamber> yeah
[08:21] <Zamber> media player daemon
[08:22] <Zamber> runs even if your X server is down :D
[08:22] <ironfroggy> does cups have seperate user accounts or are the credentials it asks for the same as my normal accounts?
[08:22] <ORiON-> u mean MOC?
[08:22] <Zamber> !MOC
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about MOC - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <Zamber> googling ;p
[08:23] <ORiON-> aptitude it
[08:23] <ORiON-> the package called moc
[08:23] <ORiON-> and u run it with mocp
[08:23] <ORiON-> it doesnt require x as well
[08:23] <ORiON-> :p
[08:23] <Zamber> got it
[08:23] <Zamber> simmilar
[08:24] <ORiON-> mpd seems to be more advanced
[08:25] <Zamber> mpd is quite diffrent
[08:25] <compilerwriter> Can anyone help me with my blasted sound?  I can't seem to make it work reliably.
[08:25] <Zamber> it's very light
[08:25] <paul___> I can't get my sound to work either.
[08:26] <Zamber> you can install aditional stuf like mpc (for console comands) gmpc (a gnome GUI, works good on KDE too)
[08:26] <ORiON-> what did u already try?
[08:26] <paul___> I haven't tried anything yet. I've had kubuntu for about 18 hours, and have no idea how to do anything. it took me about 2 hours to mount a drive :(
[08:27] <ORiON-> its ok
[08:27] <compilerwriter> It works sometimes and sometimes it won't.  Sometimes if I futz with settings in kmix I get it working again but I need someone to show me how to get the damned thing to work reliably.  Hopefully you can help me learn to do it properly.
[08:27] <Zamber> paul___ evruone had passed through this :D
[08:27] <compilerwriter> Don't feel badly paul___ you will get the hang of it.
[08:28] <RoboMoore|> !dualscreen
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <RoboMoore|> !dual screen
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <compilerwriter> I might have to look up how to mount a drive it has been so long
[08:28] <Hawkwind> !twinview | RoboMoore|
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <Hawkwind> Ermmm
[08:28] <RoboMoore|> danke Hawkwind
[08:28] <Zamber> RoboMoore| dualscreen is supported by the video card controller
[08:28] <Hawkwind> !twin view | RoboMoore|
[08:28] <ubotu> twin: a Text mode WINdow environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-3 (edgy), package size 422 kB, installed size 1444 kB
[08:28] <Hawkwind> Guess he doesn't know anything about it
[08:28] <paul___> I'm trying to open add/remove programs, and the computer says that another process is using the packaging system database. Is there any way to show a list of running processes?
[08:29] <paul___> because nothing is running that would use a packaging system database
[08:29] <compilerwriter> There is in a terminal window paul.
[08:29] <RoboMoore|> Zamber, there's been difficulty with the screens in the begining
[08:29] <paul___> ok how do I do it in the terminal
[08:29] <Zamber> RoboMoore| it's normal ;)
[08:29] <RoboMoore|> thank you
[08:29] <Zamber> get your GC driver first ;)
[08:29] <compilerwriter> I can't think of it of the top my head though.  Give me minute to think.  Open up a terminal though.
[08:29] <Zamber> ati or nvidia?
[08:29] <tumler> paul_: ps aux?
[08:29] <paul___> k
[08:29] <RoboMoore|> nvidia
[08:30] <Zamber> !nvidia
[08:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:30] <Zamber> ;)
[08:30] <RoboMoore|> thank you Zamber
[08:30] <Zamber> youre welcome ;)
[08:30] <Zamber> brb
[08:30] <Zamber> xorg playtime ^^
[08:31] <ORiON-> hf
[08:31] <ORiON-> :p
[08:32] <paul___> hey tumler just saw that, thanks
[08:32] <heinkel_111> does anyone know of a good program to make a little bit more advanced screen slideshows?
[08:32] <heinkel_111> i would like to have panning, zooming, rotating
[08:32] <heinkel_111> and synchronise to audio
[08:32] <tumler> paul_: np:)
[08:32] <heinkel_111> ?
[08:34] <ORiON-> did u try avidemux?
[08:35] <heinkel_111> no
[08:35] <heinkel_111> do you think it is worth it?
[08:35] <heinkel_111> ORiON-: ^
[08:35] <compilerwriter> Now then could someone please help this newbie with his blased sound issues.
[08:36] <ORiON-> i never try it so i dont know for sure if it does the thing u just described...
[08:36] <ORiON-> but give it a chance :p
[08:36] <fl1>  i'm expereencing problems with the log in after a suspend to disk , my keebord doesn't seem to function animor when i restart the pc , all this after the last upgrade first it all worked perfectly , anyone has a clue on whats hapening?
[08:36] <paul___> agh. how can I figure out what running process is using the packaging database, if I can't see it running?
[08:36] <manchicken> fl1: You using fwcutter with a wifi card?
[08:37] <ORiON-> ps -aux as some1 already wrote before
[08:38] <ORiON-> or what was the last package manager u used
[08:38] <Zamber> I'm down xD deleted GLcore from modules in xorg.conf and it's still loading
[08:38] <paul___> ps -aux gives a list of running processes. which one is using the packing systemdatabase?
[08:38] <Zamber> (EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/atiogl_a_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727)
[08:38] <Zamber> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[08:38] <Zamber> (II) Loading local sub module "GLcore"
[08:38] <manchicken> paul___: Grep for apt, dpkg, adept
[08:38] <ORiON-> kpagkage...
[08:39] <ORiON-> kpackage
[08:39] <manchicken> Zamber: Aren't proprietary drivers fun?
[08:39] <Zamber> oh yeah :D
[08:39] <compilerwriter> paul do you know how to pipe the output to grep?
[08:39] <ORiON-> grep for synaptic too
[08:39] <manchicken> I avoid them like the plague.
[08:39] <paul___> no compiler
[08:39] <Zamber> I have DRI running and my card detected corectly but this GL thing is annoying xD
[08:40] <ORiON-> ps -aux | grep synaptic
[08:40] <manchicken> Pretty pictures aren't worth the trouble for me. heh
[08:40] <ORiON-> for example
[08:40] <compilerwriter> Thanis orion
[08:40] <compilerwriter> Thanks Orion.
[08:40] <Zamber> I'm tryingo to run AIGLX :P
[08:40] <compilerwriter> I didn't figure the newbie would necessarily know about the beauty of pipes yet.
[08:41] <larson9999> errr, pipes aren't a new concept and not particular to linux
[08:41] <Zamber> :D
[08:41] <compilerwriter> The beauty of linux paul is the output of most commands can be the input of the others.
[08:42] <manchicken> That has nothing to do with the kernel.
[08:42] <manchicken> That's a function of the shell.
[08:42] <compilerwriter> True larson, but if paul has never played with a command line, as in dos, he would have no clue what one is.
[08:42] <Zamber> oh
[08:42] <larson9999> compilerwriter: nothing special about that either.  same goes for DOS
[08:43] <paul___> I tried writing that, it said 'bad syntax'
[08:43] <compilerwriter> only that dos is not nearly as developed in the capacity.
[08:43] <ORiON-> larson how can i pipe at DOS?
[08:43] <paul___> ps -aux | grep synaptic
[08:43] <manchicken> Piping in shells is older than stink, and is not unique to something using a linux kernel.
[08:43] <Zamber> well, it's sayd that ATI don;t works good with AIGLX
[08:43] <compilerwriter> True manchicken.
[08:43] <Zamber> but I'll change it :P
[08:44] <ORiON-> try
[08:44] <paul___> well I'm going to try to restart. maybe that will fix the problem without me having to close a program manually
[08:44] <ORiON-> ps -aux | grep 'synaptic'
[08:44] <compilerwriter> I have a feeling that our friend Paul here might just be young enough to never have had to do it before.
[08:44] <ORiON-> PAUL
[08:44] <ORiON-> noneed to restart
[08:44] <paul___> ok
[08:44] <ORiON-> this is not the way for solving problems :p
[08:45] <paul___> it says 'perhaps a bogus -?'
[08:45] <compilerwriter> That is another beautiful thing about linux.  One rarely needs to restart the machine.
[08:45] <compilerwriter> Paul try "ps aux | grep synaptic"  without the quotes of course
[08:45] <ORiON-> paul try
[08:46] <paul___> ok that worked
[08:46] <ORiON-> ps -ax | grep 'synaptic'
[08:46] <larson9999> ORiON-: a lot like in linux.  for instance: dir | more
[08:46] <paul___> now should I stop that process?
[08:46] <ORiON-> yup
[08:46] <BluesKaj>  /var/lib/dpkg/ is locked up ...can't install or remove any pkgs with adept,apt or synaptic ...what's the unlock command again ?
[08:46] <heinkel_111> is is http://winehq.org down?
[08:46] <Hawkwind> !adept crash fix | BluesKaj
[08:46] <ubotu> BluesKaj: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[08:46] <ORiON-> lol its the same problem paul got
[08:47] <BluesKaj> thx Hawkwind
[08:47] <Hawkwind> heinkel_111: Yes, it's down
[08:47] <heinkel_111> :(
[08:47] <ORiON-> u can also kill the process that using it
[08:47] <paul___> ok so I killed the process, then grepped it again, and it just immediately started after I killed it
[08:48] <ORiON-> how did u kill it?
[08:48] <ORiON-> or try to
[08:48] <paul___> sudo kill 6320
[08:48] <compilerwriter> In playing with kmix I have managed to get background noise out of the speakers.
[08:48] <ORiON-> start to mute things
[08:48] <paul___> should I do it another way
[08:48] <ORiON-> until it will stop
[08:48] <ORiON-> u can kill it with
[08:48] <BluesKaj> nope , din't work
[08:48] <ORiON-> killall -s KILL <process-name>
[08:50] <paul___> oh I read the grep thing wrong- there is no synaptic process running.... the process was just me using the grep command
[08:50] <ORiON-> LOL
[08:50] <paul___> what else could be using the package manager? apt? what else?
[08:51] <larson9999> finally got a thin monitor.  has speakers embedded so i figured i'd gain desktop real estate and use them.  only problem is you can barely hear anything.
[08:51] <ORiON-> try to remmber what u used
[08:51] <manchicken> apt, adept, dpkg...
[08:51] <christiane> Hello. I just installed kubuntu 6.10 on a DELL Inspiron 6400 with ATI video (x1300 or x1400, I think). I installed the pkg xorg-fglrx-driver from restricted and even rebooted but the resolution is still vesa's 1024x768. What do I have to do now (don't wanna break anything ;_) )?
[08:51] <larson9999> maybe i'll see if windows still boots and if it's any louder there.
[08:51] <manchicken> It could be adept-notifier.
[08:51] <ORiON-> nah
[08:52] <paul___> yeah there are 3 adept things running: adept_notifier, kdesu -u root -c kdesu adept_installer, and kdesu -u root kdesu adept
[08:52] <manchicken> christiane: Not all ATIs are supported by ATI's proprietary drivers.  Check their list of supported cards for the one you're using.
[08:52] <paul___> should I kill them all?
[08:53] <ORiON-> only the last one
[08:53] <manchicken> christiane: If you use the free software xorg drivers life will be much easier.  You won't get hardware 3d rendering, but you'll get a pretty decent 2d display.
[08:53] <christiane> manchicken: I ran fglrx successfully on this machine with dapper before but can't remember what exactly I did after installing fglrx (if any) ...
[08:54] <manchicken> christiane: I'm one of the (un)?lucky people who is not supported by ATI... even though I'm sure they appreciated the money they made when I bought this laptop.
[08:54] <paul___> ah, still didn't work
[08:54] <ORiON-> brb
[08:55] <christiane> manchicken: When I open kde's control center -> screen/vga it says "vesa" there.
[08:56] <larson9999> i dumped my ati card as soon as i could find someone to tried for an nvidia.  i was having a time getting it installed until i followed the instructions in the 'unofficial ubuntu guide'.
[08:56] <larson9999> s/tried/trade/
[08:56] <manchicken> christiane: Isn't vesa the free software 3d software rendering?
[08:56] <paul___> ok so I killed all the adept processes, there are no apt or dpkg processes, and it still doesn't work.
[08:56] <christiane> manchicken: Do I have to select the just installed fglrx driver?
[08:56] <manchicken> I won't use the non-free drivers for graphics cards.
[08:57] <manchicken> christiane: Dunno.  My card is supported and I wouldn't use their crap drivers even if I was.
[08:57] <ORiON-> i back
[08:57] <ubuntu_> could someone give me a shell comand please? im trying to mount my hard disk form live cd so that the hd icons on my desktop,its hd1 by the way
[08:57] <christiane> manchicken: Maybe I installed not the proprietary driver but xorg's, Where can I find this out?
[08:58] <[miles] > hey guys
[08:58] <[miles] > good evening
[08:58] <ORiON-> [21:56]  <larson9999> s/tried/trade/
[08:58] <manchicken> christiane: I've never installed their crap drivers before, I really wouldn't know.
[08:58] <ORiON-> lol
[08:58] <[miles] > does anyone know htf to get the Sun Java 5 installer to accept the Ok to licence in Adept?
[08:58] <[miles] > damn thing wont acknowledge my keyboard
[08:59] <manchicken> [miles] : Try cancelling and using apt-get directly.
[08:59] <[miles] > cant cancel
[08:59] <[miles] > only close window
[08:59] <[miles] > grrr
[09:00] <manchicken> xkill, clean things up, then apt-get
[09:00] <[miles] > thats an anoying bug
[09:00] <manchicken> That's the non-free installer, not adept.
[09:00] <larson9999> ORiON-: what's funny about that?
[09:00] <compilerwriter> Damn still no sound when I try to play video.
[09:00] <manchicken> Blame Sun, not Kubuntu.
[09:01] <manchicken> The GPL'ed JRE will hopefully change things around.
[09:01] <ORiON-> nothing
[09:01] <ORiON-> u got style
[09:01] <[miles] > manchicken: dude, in Ubuntu it works fine
[09:01] <ORiON-> next time just make it perfect
[09:01] <ORiON-> sed -e 's/tried/trade/g'
[09:02] <manchicken> [miles] : It's the non-free installer trying to be interactive in a program that's trying to do things in an automated fashion that's the problem.
[09:02] <junky> what i have to do, to install .run program???
[09:02] <junky> im new
[09:02] <larson9999> ORiON-: no need for the -e or g
[09:02] <manchicken> junky: What program?
[09:02] <compilerwriter> any ideas orion where I having the conflict?
[09:02] <junky> wolfenstain
[09:03] <junky> enemy territori
[09:03] <ORiON-> -e? u must use it with sed if u want to sub
[09:03] <junky> ?
[09:03] <manchicken> You might want to ask their customer service, but most of the time those .run scripts are nothing but bash scripts.
[09:03] <manchicken> You could just try doing sh ./file.run
[09:03] <junky> ?
[09:03] <junky> oks
[09:04] <manchicken> But there's no guarantee that'll work.
[09:04] <manchicken> It might screw up your system if they packaged it poorly.
[09:04] <ORiON-> complilerwrite? what conflict?
[09:04] <junky> ...
[09:04] <larson9999> ORiON-: like i said.  no need for it
[09:04] <ORiON-> try to run it without -e
[09:05] <ORiON-> "unterminated `s' command"
[09:05] <larson9999> ORiON-: jason@jasonntu:~$ echo 'tried tried' |sed 's/tried/trade/'
[09:05] <larson9999> trade tried
[09:05] <paul___> ok.... I logged out and logged back in, and I still can't run adept or add/remove programs because some other process is using the packaging system database. I don't even remember what program I wanted to get.
[09:06] <junky> This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown
[09:06] <junky> this says
[09:06] <compilerwriter> I can't seem to get sound to work when I try to play mpeg.
[09:07] <manchicken> junky: Contact the people who sold you that game and get support from them on that then.
[09:07] <larson9999> paul___: what message to you get?
[09:07] <manchicken> If they don't support your version of glibc it may be considerably unstable.
[09:07] <larson9999> paul___: did you try 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[09:09] <paul___> when I tried that, it says 'dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[09:09] <manchicken> junky: Now you've discovered why I only use non-free games on gaming appliance devices, such as consoles.
[09:09] <manchicken> ^_^
[09:09] <paul___> ok, I just did that
[09:09] <larson9999> paul___: then do 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[09:10] <larson9999> paul___: after that try 'sudo apt-get update'  again
[09:10] <paul___> ok that worked
[09:10] <paul___> and... problem solved! thanks!
[09:10] <larson9999> paul___: i'm guessing adept will work now?
[09:10] <paul___> what did that do? update the apt-get program?
[09:10] <paul___> yes it does
[09:11] <christiane> manchicken: I found a wiki entry and edited xorg.conf manually and now it works. I think the drivers from xorg don't support my card. I don't need 3D but I need a clear 1280x800 screen. Do you think that's possible with gpl drivers?
[09:11] <larson9999> paul___: adept is basicall a gui for apt-get
[09:11] <paul___> ah ok
[09:11] <manchicken> christiane: xorg drivers should work with a wide-screen 15"
[09:12] <larson9999> paul___: so you can do what you do with adept via apt. only quicker
[09:12] <paul___> oh, I get it
[09:12] <manchicken> christiane: they work just fine with my 17" wide.
[09:12] <paul___> does add/remove programs also use apt?
[09:12] <manchicken> I'm in 1440x900
[09:12] <christiane> manchicken: wow? How to set this resolution?
[09:12] <larson9999> paul___: yeah
[09:12] <manchicken> paul___: Anything that installs programs from repositories or .debs uses the dpkg/apt database.
[09:13] <manchicken> christiane: Use kubuntu's control panel.
[09:13] <christiane> manchicken: Ok. What's the driver's name?
[09:13] <paul___> now onto the next problem: amarok won't play my mp3 files. Gaim and the terminal make little noises, so my sound definately works- does it matter that the mp3s I want are on an NTFS partition?
[09:14] <larson9999> paul___: apt-get update updates the database of packages that are available in the list of repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:14] <manchicken> christiane: Did you use the kubuntu device database?
[09:14] <larson9999> paul___:  do a 'man apt' and or 'man apt-get' for more info
[09:14] <christiane> manchicken: control panel says "detected card: ati radeon (fbdev)". Should I try this
[09:14] <manchicken> christiane: I'm not sure if my ATI will use the same driver as yours.
[09:14] <manchicken> Sure.
[09:14] <manchicken> What've you got to lose?
[09:14] <junky> what i have to do if when i try to run a .run program say:
[09:15] <christiane> manchicken: ;-)
[09:15] <junky> This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 linux
[09:15] <paul___> ok I will larson
[09:16] <manchicken> junky: that is a proprietary program.  There is something broken in the install script.  It would be illegal for you to modify it, and illegal for us to help you modify it.  You should contact the customer support department of whatever entity you obtained that program from for support.
[09:16] <junky> ??
[09:16] <manchicken> junky: Did you read the license agreement that came with that program?
[09:16] <larson9999> unless you're some fanatical, everything must be libre, kinda guy, i suggest you use the 3d drivers.  even for non-3d intensive stuff there is usually a noticeable speed increase
[09:16] <johny454> hey everybody
[09:16] <christiane> manchicken: If I select "ati fbdev" a select field is activated and asks "Standard" or "proprietary". Is there a prop. version of xorg's ati drv?
[09:17] <christiane> manchicken: And which one to select here?
[09:17] <manchicken> christiane: I'd use the standard one.
[09:17] <christiane> ok
[09:17] <johny454> Where can i find the languages avaible in Kubuntu?
[09:17] <larson9999> christiane and manchicken did you guys follow the instructions in the unofficial ubuntu guide for installing ati drivers?  so far i haven't found anyone for which that didn't work.
[09:18] <manchicken> larson9999: Proprietary drivers tend to be crap.  Freedom and ethical concerns aside, these hardware vendors do not care about anything outside of windows.  It is foolish to trust anything that comes out of them.
[09:18] <manchicken> larson9999: Not all cards are supported uniformly.
[09:18] <manchicken> Especially not with ATI.
[09:18] <ubuntu_> what am i doing wrog? trying  to mount my hd.
[09:18] <larson9999> manchicken: bollocks!  the proprietary drivers for nvidia and ati are better in terms of performance.  not even close
[09:18] <larson9999>  even if i don't know how to spell bollocks
[09:18] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1/media
[09:18] <ubuntu_> mount: can't find /dev/hda1/media in /etc/fstab or /etc/mta
[09:19] <christiane> larson9999: I folloed the instructions I found in a (German) wiki on wiki.ubuntuusers.de: Installing fglrx and editing xorg.conf ...
[09:19] <manchicken> larson9999: Not stability.
[09:19] <manchicken> larson9999: Or security.
[09:20] <larson9999> christiane: was it the german version of this? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[09:20] <manchicken> larson9999: They enable hardware rendering (that would be HARDWARE performance, not DRIVER performance) but they do nothing but cause grief for many users.
[09:20] <larson9999> christiane: there is a dapper version too if you're using that.
[09:21] <manchicken> larson9999: Installing proprietary drivers when free ones are available is often times a bad idea.  Kernel hackers have no idea how to maintain compatibility and driver maintainers seldom work to ensure compatibility.
[09:21] <ORiON-> ubuntu_ u got missing parts
[09:21] <ORiON-> at your command
[09:21] <is> "[22:18]  <larson9999> christiane and manchicken did you guys follow the instructions in the unofficial ubuntu guide for installing ati drivers?  so far i haven't found anyone for which that didn't work." not quite right,  there is some problems
[09:21] <ORiON->        The standard form of the mount command, is
[09:21] <ORiON->               mount -t type device dir
[09:22] <larson9999> manchicken: i've been installing video card drivers in linux for a decade now on many, many machines.  i have a decent handle on the open vs closed drivers.
[09:22] <ubuntu_> ORiON-, like what?
[09:22] <ORiON-> the type of your partition
[09:22] <manchicken> larson9999: I disagree.
[09:22] <ORiON-> mountpoint
[09:22] <larson9999> is: maybe there are problems.  i've followed it and installed ati drivers on 50+ machines of difference makes and models.
[09:22] <BluesKaj> trying to remove the flashplayer9 so i can revert to vers 7 (that works ) but adept is frozen at 11% uninstall ...what's the force uninstall command?
[09:23] <larson9999> manchicken: you're free to disagree.  at least in much of the world.
[09:23] <manchicken> larson9999: I don't believe what you just claimed is possible.
[09:23] <manchicken> I don't believe there are more than 50 variants of ATI drivers.
[09:23] <larson9999> manchicken: what's not possible?
[09:24] <is> larson9999:  =) right amd64 + update dapper to edgy ... this made my system totally f&%$^d reinstalled at least 5 times
[09:24] <manchicken> How could you have worked with 50+ ATI drivers if there aren't 50+ ATI drivers in existence?
[09:24] <larson9999> manchicken: makes and models of computers.  but more than 50 machines.  not all were different models.
[09:24] <ciccio_> Hello to all! I have recently switched to kubuntu from fedora
[09:24] <is> larson9999:  without update there is really no problem, thet's true
[09:25] <christiane> larson9999 (manchicken): I only missed the `aticonfig ...` part. What does this do?
[09:25] <manchicken> Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about.  Many of ATI's cards are still not supported (most mobile radeons are not supported).
[09:25] <ciccio_> could someone help me? with the basic?
[09:25] <ciccio_> how can i understand if 3d acceleration works? (first question)
[09:25] <larson9999> manchicken: you buy hw that isn't supported?
[09:26] <ubuntu_> i just tryed the -t ,but it still didint mount it to /media.what didi you mean aboute the file system?think its ext3?or whatever kubuntu uses automaticly
[09:26] <ORiON-> sudo fdisk -l
[09:26] <notech> sercik: glxinfo | grep -i rendering, if it says yes then you have 3D