[14:56] <angezanetti> usr13: okm this is wayyy better with the new kernel
[14:57] <eeee> i assume it would work for another device
[14:57] <angezanetti> i got a nice resolution and wifi seems to works again :P
[14:57] <usr13> jayjee: Which man page?
[14:57] <svetlana> jay__: do you have an example for me please?
[14:57] <eeee> jayjee: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk
[14:57] <Glorfindel> whats a good ipod compatible media player? Rythmbox isn't working with my Nano
[14:57] <usr13> angezanetti: Yea, it's fixed.  (Not sure why it missed that but...)
[14:57] <TJ-> jay__: Are you looking at the SYNOPSIS? In that case the reason for the { is, I suspect, to protect the following "=" from being interpreted by the document formatting system (groff) the man-pages are written in. Without the "{" it'd see "[=" in the source which, I think, means something special to groff
[14:57] <svetlana> jay__: "man 7 man-pages" has some detail, but I couldn't find anything about {}
[14:58] <cfhowlett> !ipod| glor
[14:58] <Glorfindel> thanks :)
[14:58] <jay__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7751677/ i'm trying to understand this svetlana
[14:59] <jayjee> eeee, Thank you, checking.
[14:59] <jay__> hmmm interesting TJ is that for sure?
[15:00] <jay__> in these cases there are no = signs
[15:00] <jay__> the { } braces are used a lot
[15:00] <svetlana> eeee: hi.
[15:00] <eeee> svetlana: hi
[15:00] <jay__> i have to understand them to understand how to use commands correctly
[15:00] <svetlana> jay__: {A|B} means A or B.
[15:00] <svetlana> eeee: we talked earlier today.
[15:01] <eeee> about the cron?
[15:01] <svetlana> yes.
[15:01] <eeee> ah yes i woke up and figured it out on the toilet
[15:01] <svetlana> did it start working the way you intended?
[15:01] <eeee> in the morning today :D toilet helps
[15:01] <eeee> yeah
[15:01] <svetlana> woo. mornings are awesome.
[15:01] <usr13> jayjee: It is just an attempt to give an explaination of "pkg", (what it means for you to replace "pkg" with in a real situation).
[15:02] <TJ-> jay__:  I'm checking but I've written man-pages and it rings a bell. The other uses have a "-" which would be "[-" without the "{" in there
[15:02] <jay__> svetlana, i'm not sure that's always the case. sometimes they are encompassing a bunch of commands. they are inside [ ] these
[15:02] <jay__>  {update | upgrade |
[15:02] <jay__>                dselect-upgrade | dist-upgrade |
[15:02] <jay__>                install pkg [{=pkg_version_number | /target_release}]...  |
[15:02] <jay__>                remove pkg...  | purge pkg...  |
[15:02] <jay__>                source pkg [{=pkg_version_number | /target_release}]...  |
[15:02] <usr13> TJ-: Do you agree?
[15:02] <jay__>                build-dep pkg [{=pkg_version_number | /target_release}]...  |
[15:02] <unopaste> jay__ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:02] <eeee> it's just 1 line
[15:02] <usr13> jay__: Don't do that.  We all have the same man pages
[15:02] <eeee> if [ ! $(pgrep -f "gedit /home/e") ]; then
[15:02] <eeee> gnome-terminal -e "aria2c -c -d /home/e http://....."
[15:02] <eeee> fi
[15:03] <eeee> (replace gedit /home/e with the aria2c -c -d /home/e command)
[15:03] <TJ-> jay__: "man 7 groff" .... "/^CONTROL_CHARACTERS" ... "[      The opening bracket is only special in groff escape sequences; there it is used to introduce a long escape  name  or  long escape argument.  Otherwise, it is non-special, e.g. in macro calls."
[15:03] <eeee> (i was testing it with gedit had no internet connection
[15:03] <svetlana> jay__: then you can use one of those bunch of commands I guess.
[15:03] <pitto> HI ppl! is it possible to disable the "guest session" from the login scrren but keep it enabled if started from a logged in user?
[15:04] <jay__> how about this svetlana source pkg [{=pkg_version_number | /target_release}]...
[15:05] <cowbacon> jayjee: you need the virtual box extension pack if you want to see and use a USB, after that's installed go to VM (rightclick guest), settings -> USB and add it to the VM
[15:05] <svetlana> eeee: perfect, it looks readable. you are using the "aria2c -c -d ..." string twice -- may want to move it somewhere up, in a variable, and just use the variable name twice.
[15:05] <eeee> svetlana: sounds good
[15:05] <usr13> jay__: It's just trying to explain what to replace pkg with in a real situation.
[15:05] <svetlana> jay__: "pkg =version" or "pkg /that_release" ?
[15:05] <TJ-> jay__: here, for example, is a fragment of that "man 8 apt-get" man-page: "  [{=\fIpkg_version_number\fR\ |\ /\fItarget_release\fR}]...   "
[15:06] <eeee> i might add if you want to make sure it was started by cron, i noticed the cron entry has /bin/bash aria2c ...
[15:06] <svetlana> TJ-: I think jay__ means the man page output, not its source markup.
[15:06] <jay__> jesus that looks confusing TJ
[15:06] <TJ-> jay__: So, the take from that is that you as a user can ignore the {} and read the content as it weren't there :)
[15:06] <svetlana> jay__: I think some folks misunderstood your question.
[15:06] <carlos__> Xubuntu
[15:07] <svetlana> carlos__: hi. yes?
[15:07] <jay__> what's the = mean in this case TJ?
[15:07] <svetlana> jay__: a part of the command you're meant to type.
[15:07] <TJ-> jay__: So you *read* it as optional + either, e.g. optionally "=pkg_version_number" OR "/target_release"
[15:07] <eeee> *you'd want
[15:07] <svetlana> jay__: <svetlana> jay__: "pkg =version" or "pkg /that_release" ?
[15:07] <TJ-> jay__: It is used by apt-get to identify 'pinning' of the package
[15:08] <jayjee> cowbacon,  why does it say this when installing extension?
[15:08] <Beldar> eeee, Preface answers with the users nick please, thanks.
[15:08] <jayjee> You are about to install a VirtualBox extension pack. Extension packs complement the functionality of VirtualBox and can contain system level software that could be potentially harmful to your system
[15:08] <TJ-> jay__: e.g. "apt-get install somepackage=2.1-0ubuntu1" or "apt-get install somepackage/precise"
[15:08] <jayjee> potentially harmful to virtualbox or my actual laptop OS ?
[15:09] <svetlana> laptop.
[15:09] <cfhowlett> jayjee vbox - but I've never heard a report of the additions causing damage
[15:09] <jayjee> huh damn!!
[15:09] <jay__> hmmm thanks for the explanation TJ but why did you exclude the whole "\fI"?
[15:09] <cowbacon> jayjee: its probably just a standard message to protect them from liability. i havent installed it in a while but i remember that you need to agree to their terms or usage and what not
[15:09] <TJ-> jay__: Because that is part of the *source code* of the man-page, it doesn't get shown to the user when you do "man 8 apt-get"
[15:09] <svetlana> jayjee: 'can' does not mean 'will'. if you trust the author of the extension, it should be fine. extensions have access to a lot of thins and it is normal.
[15:10] <dkordic> I have few guest-* entries in /etc/passwd.  What is their purpose?
[15:10] <jayjee> cowbacon, svetlana : I see will proceed with installation, will give a try.
[15:10] <svetlana> TJ-, jay__: please discuss it with eachother about whether you care about the source markup of the man page or only about its output. I think the latter.
[15:11] <jay__> how do i know to ignore characters while reading a man page TJ?
[15:11] <TJ-> jay__: experience :)
[15:11] <svetlana> you don't.
[15:11] <jay__> omg lol
[15:11] <jay__> sounds like trail and error fun times?
[15:12] <svetlana> when it says "foo {bar|baz}" and you interpret it as "foo, bar or baz", you're not ignoring them. you're /reading/ them.
[15:12] <svetlana> there's nothing to try, it is all very clear.
[15:12] <Beldar> dkordic, Pastebin the whole text with your inquiry to make it easier fore helpers.
[15:12] <TJ-> jay__: That's what F/OSS and 'community support' is all about - you can explore and learn infinitely with Ubuntu
[15:12] <usr13> jay__: Some things are complicated and there is not much you can do about it.  They are complicated to explain and takes some experience to lean / understand.
[15:12] <factotum> Does anyone know if "trusty-backports" is enabled by default? My son was playing around and things are a little...uh...wonky.
[15:12] <svetlana> however your point is nice. the {||...|...} thing should be documented somewhere.
[15:13] <usr13> jay__: But the good news;  The learning curve is very steep.  (Many of the concepts are very similar.)
[15:14] <usr13> factotum: no
[15:14] <factotum> thank you
[15:14] <TJ-> jay__: it's documented in the groff project, for example: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/groff/2003-07/msg00084.html
[15:14] <TJ-> jay__: So, the 'official' explanation is actually they're for "Required alternatives"
[15:15] <svetlana> jay__: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8716047/is-there-a-specification-for-a-man-pages-synopsis-section
[15:15] <dkordic> Beldar: Sorry :), http://paste.ubuntu.com/7751749/
[15:15] <svetlana> jay__: thanks for asking; they mention [|] sort of thing there. {}s are not very mentioned.
[15:16] <jay__> ok cool i think i got it for the most part. [{=\fIpkg_version_number\fR\ |\ /\fItarget_release\fR}] but in this example the things like \/\fI confuse me cause i don't know why they are there
[15:16] <usr13> It is all summed up in the signature line; "I don't see why some people even HAVE cars." (cars add un-due complication to our lives :)
[15:16] <svetlana> TJ-: thank you. where should it be documented, now?
[15:16] <svetlana> usr13: they do. (I do not have one.)
[15:16] <usr13> good for you
[15:17] <Beldar> dkordic, Not sure myself, just commented in the grain, the channel help needs some evidence to help. ;)
[15:17] <svetlana> jay__: they are a part of man page source markup. you won't see them usually.
[15:17] <factotum> second question: would a dead battery (old, dead cells, doesnt hold a charge etc) be a factor in a laptop not waking out of sleep?
[15:17] <jay__> thanks for the links. TJ, it seems like they are just used sometimes because the [ ] can't be because of syntax
[15:18] <usr13> factotum: Should not be a factor
[15:18] <Beldar> factotum, While plugged into ac/dc right?
[15:18] <factotum> I have a laptop hp probook 4520s, intel graphics.  I can wake it to a darkened screen that allows me to type my password while plugged in. Problem is the screen goes black and just hangs there.
[15:18] <usr13> factotum: sleep  and  hybernate  are sometimes problematic on some devices.
[15:19] <factotum> usr13: I'll have to figure out where the log file is, seems to be a new problem introduced with 14.04.
[15:19] <factotum> Having the backports enabled might have gummed something up as well
[15:20] <sbaitso> how do i change type of keyboard? i got a laptop (macbook) keyboard and a regular big desktop keyboard seems to be the default
[15:20] <usr13> factotum: Mahy find what you need in /var/log/syslog
[15:20] <factotum> wonder if I can revert those updates....man apt here I come I guess lol
[15:20] <jay__> ok cool. thanks for the explanation guys! :) and i get the joke around cars on that page now usr13 thanks hehe
[15:20] <usr13> !keyboard | sbaitso
[15:20] <factotum> usr13: thank you again for all your help
[15:20] <usr13> NP
[15:21] <Beldar> sbaitso, keyboard app has a  layout setting
[15:21] <sbaitso> yeah, im at system preferences, usr13. it will let me change keyboard region but not type
[15:21] <jay__> this one is probably simple but what does the / mean in /target_release
[15:22] <usr13> jay__: and/or
[15:22] <usr13> jay__: either/or
[15:22] <usr13> jay__: Just saying that the package name may contain release number etc.
[15:23] <usr13> jay__: Sometimes, (not often), there are more than one.
[15:23] <sugoruyo> hey folks, I'm looking for a way to install 14.04 on an encrypted partition, with encrypted swap and leave room for a Windows install too, on a UEFI machine
[15:23] <sugoruyo> does anyone know any good docs I could follow?
[15:23] <usr13> jay__: Sometimes, (not often), there are more than one.... and you would need to specify.
[15:24] <jay__> ok. i though it meant that you had to tell it exactly what directory to get the target release from
[15:24] <usr13> !encryption | sugoruyo
[15:25] <eeee> svetlana: it works as intended, but i had to add a " " to the variable "$c" or pgrep wouldn't work
[15:25] <usr13> jay__: It's just a way of letting you know that you need to have a complete package name.  apt-cache search <package-name> is helpful for that.
[15:25] <eeee> c="gedit /home/e"
[15:25] <eeee> if [ ! $(pgrep -f "$c") ]; then
[15:25] <oetker201> Hi.
[15:26] <sugoruyo> usr13 I'm talking about partition-level encryption
[15:27] <jay__> for install pkg [{=pkg_version_number | /target_release}]  would you type apt-get install gnome=someversionhere?
[15:28] <usr13> sugoruyo: I don't know about "installing on" encrypted partitions.  I think you would just create new partitions to install on.  Right?
[15:28] <svetlana> jay__: I would, yes.
[15:29] <usr13> sugoruyo: Just doing google searches;  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-dm-crypt-to-create-an-encrypted-volume-on-an-ubuntu-vps
[15:29] <sbaitso> pushing the keyboard icon here: http://i.imgur.com/QDq8d5R.png lets you see this graphic: http://i.imgur.com/19kOs9Z.png of the current keyboard type and mapping, but not change it
[15:30] <sbaitso> you can also add keyboard shortcuts...
[15:30] <jay__> i'm basically asking if you include the = sign or / sign and if there is a space or not between the package name (gnome for example) and the optional part. like e.g. gnome somepackage or gnome=somepackage.    gnome /targetrelease or gnome /tragetrelease
[15:30] <usr13> sbaitso: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2014/05/28/how-to-install-ubuntu-14-04-on-encrypted-mbr-partitions/
[15:31] <Guest13814> i want to use gpt on new disk install what is recomendations for partition setup so grub mount doesn't spin when probing for os ?
[15:31] <usr13> sugoruyo: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2014/05/28/how-to-install-ubuntu-14-04-on-encrypted-mbr-partitions/
[15:31] <sbaitso> usr13, how to install on a encrypted partition??
[15:31] <usr13> sbaitso: Sorry, wrong nick
[15:32] <usr13> jay__: no
[15:32] <usr13> jay__: Just space between package names
[15:32] <jay__> usr13, so it would be apt-get install gnome target_release
[15:33] <jay__> is that correct?
[15:33] <usr13> jay__: i.e.  sudo apt-get install package-name second-package third-package
[15:33] <usr13> jay__: Package names do not have spaces
[15:34] <jay__> not for the package names usr13 for specifying the particular package.
[15:34] <usr13> jay__: It is just package-names  Simply names with not spaces in the name(s).
[15:34] <sugoruyo> usr13 not what I'm looking for, what I'm trying to do is set up a LUKS encrypted volume and have LVM volumes in it for / and swap, being able to boot from it on a UEFI
[15:34] <sugoruyo> *UEFI machine
[15:35] <sugoruyo> it's similar to what Ubuntu 14.04 does when I tell it to use the whole disk + encryption + lvm only I don't want to go whole disk
[15:35] <usr13> sugoruyo: https://www.google.com/search?q=install+Ubuntu+on+LUKS+encrypted+volume+with+LVM&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[15:36] <mp7> good
[15:36] <jay__> i mean if you want a particular version of a package. let's say i want an old flash version or something. can i type   apt-get install flash/old   or   apt-get install flash=old   or   apt-get install flash old  which one is correct guys?
[15:36] <chinaguy> jjjjj
[15:36] <usr13> jay__: no
[15:37] <mp7> Iran . . .
[15:37] <mp7> ???
[15:37] <chinaguy> hi
[15:37] <mp7> hi
[15:37] <usr13> jay__: You just use specific package name
[15:37] <sugoruyo> usr13, I've already tried that Google Search however, I just noticed a result that might have what I need
[15:37] <DJones> !ir | mp7
[15:38] <cfhowlett> !cn|chinaguy
[15:38] <cfhowlett> !kylin| chinaguy
[15:38] <mp7> thanku
[15:38] <jay__> usr13,  :( what do these two options mean then? install pkg [{=pkg_version_number | /target_release}]
[15:39] <chinaguy> ,,,
[15:39] <jay__> [{=pkg_version_number | /target_release}] are option for the install pkg command aren't they?
[15:40] <usr13> jay__: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man8/apt-get.8.html
[15:42] <angezanetti> usr13: is there some tweaks i should do to make my macbookpro feel better with ubuntu?
[15:42] <cfhowlett> !mac
[15:43] <jay__> i found the answer!
[15:43] <usr13> jay__: What did you find?
[15:43] <eeee> they both designate the package you want?
[15:43] <jay__> it would be apt-get install package=packageversion
[15:43] <jay__> or you can tyupe apt-get install package/targetrelease
[15:44] <angezanetti> cfhowlett: hum, i was looking for generic lqptop stuff, i read the Mac doc already
[15:44] <eeee> i think they both designate the same thing, just 2 different ways of saying which version
[15:45] <jay__> muhahaha that's for the direction usr13
[15:45] <jay__> thanks for the direction*
[15:46] <jay__> you're right eeee
[15:46] <Annihilator_> need help
[15:46] <cfhowlett> !ask|Annihilator_
[15:47] <ladital> hello, how do i find out how much RAM i have? (what type in terminal?)
[15:47] <Vge> mem -f
[15:47] <cfhowlett> ladital free
[15:48] <ladital> mem command not found :(
[15:48] <Annihilator_> since i have switched from windows to ubuntu i am having some difficulties.where can i find removable disk(CD,USB,etc..)in ubuntu and access it?
[15:48] <usr13> jay__: I see;  http://debian-handbook.info/browse/wheezy/sect.apt-get.html  (Ive not use those options before)
[15:48] <n1md4> hi.  is it possible to tail logs permanently?  at the moment it tails until 6 in the morning.
[15:48] <ladital> free?
[15:49] <ladital> cfhowlett: free?
[15:49] <usr13> n1md4: yes
[15:49] <kanhiya> hi all, i installed xubuntu desktop on ubuntu , but i am facing some problems, i created and deleted top panel and put unity indicator applet on bottom panel
[15:49] <Beldar> Annihilator_, In home left panel
[15:49] <usr13> n1md4: Well, far as I know it is...
[15:49] <kanhiya> now whenever i open libre office or pidgin etc
[15:49] <kanhiya> it throws an error Plugin "Indicator Plugin" unexpectedly left the panel, do you want to restart it?
[15:49] <jay__> i'll read that later usr13 . i've had enough learning for a morning lol
[15:50] <ladital> help :)
[15:50] <usr13> kanhiya: What is "unity indicator applet"?
[15:51] <Beldar> Annihilator_, That would be external stuff...etc, if you have mounted a partition example with fstab you would see it in /mnt
[15:52] <Annihilator_> Beldar i didn't get you
[15:53] <Beldar> Annihilator_, what part do you not get?
[15:53] <Annihilator_> how do i access external stuff?
[15:53] <Annihilator_> like usb and DVD etc...
[15:53] <Beldar> Annihilator_, Give an exact example.
[15:54] <usr13> +bug/1181134 | kanhiya
[15:54] <usr13> bug1181134 | kanhiya
[15:54] <Beldar> Annihilator_, Left panel on desktop should show a usb that would be mounted. Do you know what home is?
[15:54] <martin1969> hello, i'm stumped on trying to make my computer dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu 14.04. right now, windows' hard drive is designated with sda, and ubuntu is with sda1.
[15:55] <usr13> kandinski: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/+bug/1181134
[15:55] <Annihilator_> it doesn't show that is the problem Beldar
[15:55] <martin1969> is it a good idea just to change the ubuntu's drive designation to sdb?
[15:56] <eeee> martin1969: irrelevant
[15:56] <usr13> martin1969: From ___________?  Why __________ ?
[15:56] <whosyourdaddy> i don't think so
[15:56] <eeee> martin1969: and windows should be sdaxY, the whole drive is sda, sdaxY designate partitions
[15:56] <Nepazystu> ;
[15:56] <Beldar> Annihilator_, are you sure it is mounted, lets focus on one at a time like usb.
[15:57] <Annihilator_> ok
[15:57] <martin1969> eeee, windows and ubuntu are on separate hard drives.
[15:57] <usr13> martin1969: Did you have grub install boot loader to MBR of the primary one?  (sda)?
[15:57] <Beldar> martin1969, We to see exactly how the HD is setup now, run parted -l and pastebin it with theses inquires.
[15:58] <fabio_> its possible to install xfce in ubuntu touch?
[15:58] <martin1969> usr, sda has windows installed.
[15:58] <svetlana> fabio_: I think so. try asking #ubuntu-touch
[15:58] <Beldar> fabio_, ubuntu touch is on #ubuntu-touch ask them
[15:59] <whosyourdaddy> 'course
[15:59] <whosyourdaddy> just give it a try
[15:59] <usr13> martin1969: If not, you probably just installed the boot loader to the drive you installed ubuntu on, (sdb I would suppose, right?).  If so, you will need to use the computer's own boot options (from bios) to select which OS to boot to.
[15:59] <Beldar> !who | whosyourdaddy
[15:59] <martin1969> right now, when i boot my computer, ubuntu boots up.
[15:59] <Beldar> !bootinfo | martin1969 run this please
[16:00] <usr13> martin1969: Did you tell grub to install boot loader to MBR of sda?
[16:00] <usr13> martin1969: Yea, run the bootinfo script and we'll have a look.
[16:01] <martin1969> ok. thanks.
[16:03] <martin1969> what i'm puzzled right now is why the ubuntu hard drive is designed with sda1 instead of sdb. keep in mind that windows part is sda.
[16:03] <martin1969> designated, rather
[16:05] <Beldar> martin1969, Run that script without details we cannot help.
[16:05] <usr13> martin1969: sda1 is the first parition on the primary drive.  But let's see what RESULTS.txt says
[16:06] <martin1969> right. i'm a newbie so cut me some slack. i'm reading the website direction.
[16:06] <usr13> martin1969: sda is just the drive  sda1 is the first partition on that [primary] drive.
[16:07] <Beldar> martin1969, You have to realize details rule newbie or not.
[16:07] <martin1969> usr, but ubuntu exists on a separate hard drive.
[16:08] <martin1969> i attempted this last year and somehow hosed the windows mbr.
[16:08] <Beldar> martin1969, Stop commenting and run the script please.
[16:08] <usr13> martin1969: Let's hope you learned your lesson.
[16:09] <martin1969> ok. let me shut down the computer. i need to plug in the windows drive's cables.
[16:09] <martin1969> i'll be back.
[16:09] <n1md4> usr13: how would i do that then?
[16:10] <usr13> martin1969: YOu are going to do what?
[16:10] <usr13> martin1969: You installed Ubuntu without the MS Windows drive plugged in?
[16:11] <usr13> martin1969: If that is the case, you do not have a dual-boot system.
[16:11] <martin1969> right now, the windows hard drive is not plugged in.  well, i did.
[16:11] <martin1969> brb.
[16:11] <usr13> martin1969: So you just have to physically switch drives to boot one OS or the other.
[16:12] <usr13> If you only had the one drive plugged in when you installed Ubuntu, you are stuck with having to physically switching from one drive to the other in order to boot one or the other OS.
[16:13] <Beldar> can the computer support 2 HD would be my question
[16:14] <isthisreallife> somethong wrong with my address bar drop down list
[16:14] <isthisreallife> http://i.imgur.com/YVNjnMG.jpg
[16:14] <isthisreallife> how do i fix it?
[16:14] <usr13> Beldar: You mean "booting" from one or the other HDs.
[16:15] <Beldar> usr13, whether one is a slave would be later info, or an external, just can both be plugged in internally is my question.
[16:15] <usr13> martin1969: What kind of computer is it?  What kind of Hard Drives are they?  IDE, SATA  ?
[16:15] <cfhowlett> isthisreallife ?  looks normal
[16:15] <usr13> martin1969: or USB   ....?
[16:16] <Beldar> isthisreallife, looks normal from here can you explain your issue?
[16:16] <martin1969> usr13, it's a computer that i assembled. 2 ssds, one running windows and one running ubuntu.
[16:16] <martin1969> sata
[16:16] <usr13> martin1969: Ok.  They are both sata drives?  And did you only have one plugged in when you installed Ubuntu?
[16:17] <martin1969> usr13, yes. i had the windows plugged in when installing ubuntu. i wiped out the previous version and installed the latest version.
[16:18] <usr13> martin1969: Run the bootinfo script and paste results.
[16:19] <isthisreallife> http://i.imgur.com/hEe4SYL.jpg   Beldar, cfhowlett
[16:19] <isthisreallife> width 100%
[16:19] <martin1969> right. but right now the windows drive is not plugged in. i need to shut down the computer in order to do so. i'll be right back.
[16:19] <ianorlin> 56/buffer 12
[16:20] <cfhowlett> isthisreallife I'm still not seeing the problem, but you can maximize chrome.  if it still acts up, delete the .hidden chrome file from your /home
[16:20] <cfhowlett> isthisreallife restart for reset to defaults
[16:23] <isthisreallife> cfhowlett  there is no such file as .chrome in /home
[16:25] <cfhowlett> isthisreallife /home/.config/.chrome          (or are you running chromium?)
[16:26] <isthisreallife> ye found it but deleting it didnt help
[16:27] <isthisreallife> http://i.stack.imgur.com/WdPpZ.png     http://i.imgur.com/hEe4SYL.jpg
[16:28] <isthisreallife> cfhowlett  dont you see the difference?
[16:28] <cfhowlett> isthisreallife don't see the difference and still don't see the problem
[16:30] <Beldar> isthisreallife, Can you give an exact description of your issue.
[16:30] <isthisreallife> yep one minute
[16:30] <Beldar> isthisreallife, no pictures, no two word answers.
[16:35] <zoli> hi, how can i make a program that needs root right to start up automatically in trusty? I tried /etc/rc.local, but for some reason it didnt work
[16:35] <usr13> zoli: I'm afraid you will need to be specific
[16:35] <craigbass1976> I've got a microphone that's showing a signal (when I tap it) but I don't hear the tapping.
[16:35] <isthisreallife> address drop down menu shouldnt be that big
[16:35] <usr13> zoli: Define "a program"
[16:36] <isthisreallife> please take a look at this http://i.stack.imgur.com/WdPpZ.png
[16:36] <cfhowlett> craigbass1976 and your speakers are "muted" ???
[16:36] <isthisreallife> its not 100% width
[16:36] <isthisreallife> http://i.imgur.com/tbMQMr5.jpg
[16:36] <craigbass1976> cfhowlett: no
[16:36] <usr13> !startup | zoli
[16:37] <craigbass1976> cfhowlett: I savbvious things for Monday mornings.  :)e forgetting really o
[16:37] <craigbass1976> cfhowlett: I save forgetting really obvious things for Monday Mornings.
[16:37] <craigbass1976> Stupid trackpad...
[16:37] <Beldar> zoli, What program, and why root?
[16:37] <zoli> usr13: well, i am right you can only start up programs from gnome sessions that doesnt need sudo, right?
[16:38] <zoli> Beldar: because the program only runs by sudoing
[16:38] <Beldar> Beldar> zoli, What program, and why root? Answer the question
[16:38] <usr13> zoli: Why does it need sudo?  What line did you put in /etc/rc.local ?  What is the name of the program?
[16:38] <eeee> zoli: you can edit sudoers and have it run without sudo, for all users
[16:39] <Beldar> zoli, pastebin the output of uname -a
[16:39] <zoli> i want to log myself logkeys, and used: /usr/bin/logkeys -s
[16:39] <zoli> in /etc/rc.local
[16:40] <craigbass1976> cfhowlett: nevermind -- I grabbed this headset at the recycle center, and just found out the left speaker doesn't work.  So, I guess it doesn't matter at this point whether the mic works or not.
[16:40] <zoli> as i know in rc.local you are yet root, so no sudo needed, but it doesnt work right now
[16:40] <cfhowlett> craigbass1976 got it.
[16:40] <usr13> zoli: service --status-all
[16:42] <Annihilator_> help! i installed ubuntu and lost all my files.How do i recover them?
[16:42] <cfhowlett> Annihilator_ WHAT files?
[16:42] <Beldar> !details | Annihilator_
[16:42] <usr13> zoli: Do you see it in the list?
[16:42] <zoli> usr13: i was searching for the program with ps aux|grep logk and no result
[16:42] <usr13> zoli: Let me first ask you this;  How did you install it?
[16:42] <eeee> zoli: did you change the execution bit as it says?
[16:43] <usr13> zoli: apt ?
[16:43] <zoli> through synaptic
[16:43] <usr13> zoli: service --status-all
[16:43] <usr13> zoli: Do you see it in the list?
[16:43] <usr13> zoli: Shift-PageUp
[16:44] <zoli> yes I see it with a minus before it
[16:44] <zoli> [-]
[16:44] <usr13> zoli: so it is not starting?
[16:44] <eeee> zoli:  "In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution bits."
[16:44] <zoli> what does it mean this sign?
[16:44] <eeee> did you do that? did you set it to +x ?
[16:44] <usr13> zoli: Means it is not starting.  You need to tell it to start.
[16:44] <zoli> eeee: good tip, no i hanvet touched it
[16:45] <zoli> usr13: how?
[16:45] <zoli> how to tell it to autostart?
[16:45] <zoli> i can start manually
[16:45] <eeee> zoli: run sudo chmod +x rc.local
[16:45] <Annihilator_> I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on my Desktop. While installing two options were available:
[16:45] <Annihilator_> Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7
[16:45] <Annihilator_> Replace windows 7
[16:45] <Annihilator_> My computer had 3 drives. Windows 7 was installed on C: drive and there was data on other two drives. I chose option to Replace Windows 7.
[16:45] <Annihilator_> But now in Ubuntu, there is only one drive. Its size is approximately equals the hard-disk size and it is almost free, so it seems like all the data is lost.
[16:45] <Annihilator_> Could anyone please help me on this? Would it be possible to recover the lost data?
[16:45] <unopaste> Annihilator_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:45] <zoli> well, rc.local is a system file
[16:46] <usr13> zoli: update-rc
[16:46] <usr13> zoli: update-rc.d
[16:46] <zoli> and it is already executable
[16:47] <Beldar> !recovery | Annihilator_
[16:47] <cfhowlett> Annihilator possibly.  but if you using it now, you should stop.
[16:47] <cfhowlett> !recover
[16:47] <Beldar> Annihilator_ First turn off computer and boot a live cd
[16:48] <jkbbwr> what in fucks name is flexnet
[16:48] <zoli> usr13: ahm, ubuntu doesnt use upstart instead of sysv?
[16:48] <jkbbwr> and how did it get onto my system
[16:48] <usr13> zoli: Did you manually apply the executable bit to the script in /etc/init.d/keyloger  (or what ever the name is)?
[16:48] <Beldar> jkbbwr, No swearing, thank you.
[16:48] <jkbbwr> Beldar: sorry just a tad freaked out
[16:48] <usr13> zoli: Yes, it uses upstart
[16:48] <usr13> zoli: update-rc.d
[16:49] <zoli> the program is already executable, no manual action was needed
[16:49] <zoli> synaptic installed it
[16:49] <zoli> how to use update-rc.d?
[16:50] <zoli> update-rc.d app enable?
[16:50] <Beldar> jkbbwr, Context helps here, to the channel not me.
[16:51] <zoli> or maybe trusty is already use systemd?
[16:51] <jkbbwr> My boot sector is garbled, I ran boot-repair, it warns me that flexnet is installed and gives creepy messages
[16:51] <jkbbwr> this scares me into thinking I have been rootkitted
[16:51] <jkbbwr> or someone has infected my MBR
[16:51] <cfhowlett> jkbbwr "messages" ...
[16:52] <usr13> zoli: service keyloger start
[16:52] <jkbbwr> warn: Sector 32 is already in use by FlexNet; avoiding it.
[16:52] <k1n6z> I'm trying to figure out why I do not have the 'Auto-Connect' option on my VPN connections. Is it something within the applet that I am missing?
[16:52] <Beldar> jkbbwr, Don't assume and get freaked out. ;) I see that attched to adobe...etc with a quick look on web. Post the bootinfo summary url from bootrepiar
[16:53] <usr13> zoli: Or what ever the name is.
[16:53] <k1n6z> NM
[16:53] <Beldar> jkbbwr, Do you have a windows installation?
[16:53] <jkbbwr> Beldar: A very long time ago
[16:53] <jkbbwr> Beldar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7752112/
[16:53] <usr13> zoli: service logkeys start
[16:55] <Beldar> jkbbwr, That is what it is attached to or came from, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1661254 be very careful and backup the ubuntu.
[16:55] <zoli> usr13: yup service is upstart but it only can start the app, instead of setting it to autostarting
[16:56] <Beldar> jkbbwr, Be sure to read post 2 by oldfred
[16:57] <jkbbwr> ohhhhh alienware repair sector
[16:57] <usr13> zoli: Something like this: update-rc.d logkeys start 20 2 3 4 5 . stop 20 0 1 6
[16:57] <usr13> zoli: sudo
[16:58] <jkbbwr> brb
[16:58] <usr13> zoli: sudo logkeys start  #To manyally start it.
[16:59] <usr13> zoli: For testing use -n
[17:00] <usr13> zoli: Something like this: update-rc.d -n logkeys start 20 2 3 4 5 . stop 20 0 1 6
[17:00] <jkbbwr> Beldar: I ran boot-repair, and just told it to carry on and fix it
[17:00] <jkbbwr> Beldar: Idk if whatever is hiding in my mbr is there but that is a problem for future jkbbwr
[17:00] <zoli> usr13: well, thank you, your sysv update script solved the issue (although i think it is not upstart): update-rdc.d app enable
[17:00] <Beldar> jkbbwr, Did you read the link and posts 2
[17:01] <jkbbwr> Beldar: I did read the link
[17:01] <jkbbwr> Beldar: but I did just reboot fine after boot-install
[17:03] <Beldar> jkbbwr, Post 2 gives an explanation, this was an issue at one time, I'm surprised it popped up, the bootrepair app just let grub fix it, but does not have a coded in answer to it, I suspect as the app was designed after this issue was fixed in grub.
[17:04] <Beldar> jkbbwr, You can put the tinfoil hat back on it's stand. ;)
[17:04] <zoli> man update-rc.d
[17:05] <jkbbwr> Beldar: heh, as I said, idk what boot-repair did, but now my system is booting just fine
[17:05] <jkbbwr> Beldar: Future jkbbwr can worry about the tin foil hat
[17:05] <zoli> usr13: i only used: update-rdc.d logkeys enable 345
[17:06] <usr13> zoli: Most but not all services are started and configured to start on boot-up by default.  logkeys is apparently not one that is configured to sart automagically
[17:06] <Beldar> jkbbwr, Cool, this flexnet thang was a real frustration at one time, I was on the forums then helping with grub issues in general.
[17:06] <usr13> zoli: Ok, I wasn't sure of the exact syntax
[17:06] <jkbbwr> Beldar: I think its something that looks like flexnet, this is an old alienware, and alienware had a dell recovery boot sector in it
[17:07] <usr13> zoli: That's why I recommended -n
[17:07] <jkbbwr> that I totally forgot aobut
[17:07] <zoli> but -n doesnt do anything right?
[17:07] <usr13> zoli: Right, it just tells what it *would* do.
[17:07] <Beldar> jkbbwr, Ah, it seems to be possible in several possibilities, glad you found the exact link to where it was from. ;)
[17:08] <Beldar> not the best grammar but you get the gist
[17:11] <zoli> usr13: my keyboard layout is english in guake terminal although in MATE i have set it to my native and graphical apps use native keyboard layout correctly. Do you know why is it diferent in terminal and how to set it back?
[17:13] <usr13> !keyboard | zoli
[17:13] <samtodd> Hello
[17:18] <samtodd> Do I need to update video drivers with Ubuntu 14.04?
[17:18] <samtodd> If so, what driver do I use? I have a GTX480 Nvidia
[17:19] <Beldar> samtodd, Open software sources and look at additional drivers.
[17:19] <Beldar> samtodd, If it is working fine than you are set.
[17:19] <vakili> ojn
[17:20] <samtodd> It seems to be not working very well.
[17:21] <usr13> !info ubuntu-drivers-common | samtodd
[17:21] <samtodd> Beldar, thanks, I found the proprietary driver
[17:21] <Beldar> samtodd, So you have named the hardware, look at the additional drivers and let the channel know what you see, and give a description of "It seems to be not working very well." if needed, try the additional drivers first.
[17:24] <samtodd> How do I view my display settings for multiple screens?
[17:26] <samtodd> nevermind, I found it.
[17:27] <kdeuser56> how do I use setfacl for /proc?
[17:27] <kdeuser56> it always says operation not supported
[17:35] <exgnu> could unity be ported do non-linux?
[17:35] <holstein> exgnu: yes.. and is
[17:35] <holstein> well.. non-ubuntu,it is.. actually dont think its ported to non-linux
[17:35] <exgnu> what non-linux? bsd?
[17:36] <holstein> its all open, so one can do what one likes. within the technical limitations..
[17:36] <exgnu> oh ok
[17:40] <rambo123456> hey fellas.  how do I remap the ctrl with caps in ubuntu 14.04?  I don't see that option in the preferences
[17:42] <holstein> rambo123456: looks like what i would do.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/453793/remapping-caps-lock-in-14-04-trusty-tahr
[17:42] <fiatjaf> hello helpful people. after following this[https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto] tutorial (and successfully managing to receive emails from the internet using my own domain) I stopped receiving mail with the output of my cron jobs.
[17:43] <fiatjaf> I didn't set up my mail daemon or whatever it is that was working, I'm talking about an Ubuntu droplet at Digital Ocean and it came this way.
[17:44] <jhutchins> fiatjaf: What do the logs show?
[17:44] <fiatjaf> jhutchins: where do I look for them?
[17:45] <fiatjaf> syslog?
[17:47] <fiatjaf> my cron jobs are running, syslog shows them, I see them running with `ps` and the products of their work
[17:48] <fiatjaf> the tutorial made postfix create a ~/Maildir directory, which is storing my email from the internet, but not email from cron
[17:53] <jhutchins> fiatjaf: /var/log/maillog or something like that.
[17:56] <fiatjaf> jhutchins: http://pastie.org/9358771
[17:56] <sapints> hito all
[17:56] <fiatjaf> jhutchins: these are probably when cron tried to mail me
[17:59] <LonelyGirl> Ada anak indo gak? Hehehe
[17:59] <sfn> LonelyGirl I am
[18:00] <riobe_> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 from a USB created with Universal USB Installer from Windows and during the process (in one of 2 places) I get an error that has both a title and description of "??? ???". Is this something anyone can help with?
[18:01] <riobe_> I'm trying to switch to Linux as my primary OS and I'm still a bit newbie in it. Not entirely sure what to look for when the error message is nothing but ?'s.
[18:03] <SonikkuAmerica> riobe_: I would tell you to check your ???????? ????????, but that wouldn't help because you wouldn't find it
[18:03] <usr13> riobe_: So when you try to boot to it you get question marks?
[18:04] <LonelyGirl> Why no one reply my pv T.T
[18:04] <susana> hello, I need help with installing a microscope camera. I don't know if the driver exists thoug.
[18:04] <bazhang> !ot | LonelyGirl
[18:04] <sfn> riobe_: trying to install it from cd
[18:04] <susana> I'm getting this from lsusb: Bus 002 Device 021: ID 0547:4d33 Anchor Chips, Inc.
[18:04] <susana> are there any generic drivers for these kinds of things?
[18:04] <riobe_> usr13: I can boot from the USB, and start the process. It gets to a part where it seems to detect that I have Windows 7 on the drive. I tell it to use the entire drive and hit next. Sometimes I get the error there and it loops back to asking me if I want to dual boot or use the whole drive. Sometimes I get to the pick a timezone screen and it comes up and won't go away.
[18:05] <Beldar> susana, I assume this is plugged in via usb run lsusb and identify the info there on it.
[18:05] <susana> I tried using it as a regullar webcam with no success
[18:05] <bazhang> susana what does <that id> ubuntu ; turn up in a search engine
[18:05] <susana> Beldar, yes, look at my previous comment
[18:05] <riobe_> sfn: I don't have a disk burner available to me. Do you think trying to install from the USB is what my problem is?
[18:05] <susana> I found the following:
[18:06] <Beldar> susana, Missed that thanks.
[18:06] <susana> http://forum.linux-club.de/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=113863
[18:06] <susana> but it's in german
[18:06] <sfn> riobe_: nope!
[18:07] <susana> I don't have the hwinfo command
[18:07] <bekks> susana: In that article, they are just using hwinfo/lsusb to find out the USB ID.
[18:07] <susana> yes, but I thought I could get more information from hwinfo
[18:08] <riobe_> Having a ??? ??? error message is just cruel. I'll keep googling, but if anyone has an idea, I'd love you for it. I'm just starting to feel familar from within Linux, but I have no idea how to fix this install error yet.
[18:08] <bekks> susana: hwinfo doesnt display more information than lsusb would :)
[18:09] <susana> ohh ok
[18:09] <Beldar> riobe_, I would try unetbootin, that usb loader I have found can have config problems on occasion, there are a handful of usb loaders you can use. Also check the md5sum on the iso.
[18:10] <susana> it's awful that these people give you a windows driver for a scientific hardware and no linux support
[18:10] <riobe_> Beldar: Thanks! That's at least something to try. I'll go give it a go.
[18:10] <sapints_> question: someone know as start a paersonal service on boot? alredy {/etc/init.d/ ... update-rc.d}
[18:10] <bekks> susana: So which USB ID does it have?
[18:10] <Beldar> riobe_, In these situautions you have to just knock out the outliers, hard to find exact reasons is all.
[18:12] <riobe_> Beldar: True, I just don't have enough knowledge in this realm to know how to do that in any decent timeframe. Not that I won't keep searching till I find something, just make take some hours.
[18:12] <susana> 0547:4d33
[18:12] <susana> bekks
[18:14] <susana> it seems that there's no kernel module for this device
[18:14] <susana> thank you guys
[18:14] <sapints_> no one?
[18:14] <darkseid> guys
[18:14] <darkseid> why so slow ?
[18:14] <darkseid> i'm seeing lag in transitions/animations
[18:14] <darkseid> anything obvious im missing ?
[18:15] <tengopreguntas> hi. does anybody have experience making cgroups work under ubuntu. i am having a hell of a hard time trying to make it work
[18:16] <sebastia1> man
[18:16] <bekks> tengopreguntas: Whats "not working" when starting from here? https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/cgroups.html
[18:16] <Jens1112> hello
[18:17] <sebastia1> -nick seb
[18:17] <tengopreguntas> bekks: the group is created, the assigments to cpu limits, and the task gets execute by cgexec but i don't see the limits reflected when i run top
[18:17] <tengopreguntas> bekks: i am not making the permanent changes, editing the .conf files
[18:18] <jkbbwr> Beldar: Hey I installed nvidia drivers and now im getting the black screen of death
[18:18] <jkbbwr> Beldar: :C
[18:18] <bekks> tengopreguntas: I'd try making the changes permanent then.
[18:18] <tengopreguntas> well, i am trying not to, since it is a script that i want to distribute.
[18:18] <tengopreguntas> and something that should run very few times...
[18:20] <tengopreguntas> is there any other forum i should go ask for help?
[18:21] <bekks> tengopreguntas: So try making the changes permanent to check wether thats the cause of your issues.
[18:21] <tengopreguntas> bekks:  i've just gone through the documentation you sent me, but nothing new
[18:21] <tengopreguntas> ok, i will do that then. and see what happens
[18:22] <jkbbwr> Failed to query NVIDIA devices
[18:23] <bekks> jkbbwr: Where do you get that?
[18:24] <jkbbwr> bekks: grep NVIDIA /var/log/syslog
[18:25] <bekks> jkbbwr: Thats not sufficient to see the context etc.
[18:26] <jkbbwr> bekks: installed nvidia-current reboot, after grub get black screen
[18:26] <jkbbwr> cant get past
[18:28] <Jens1112> can someone tell me how to transfer data between two computers? one runs ubuntu 12.04 the other runs 14.04, both are connected to the same internet connection with lan and wlan! tried to use usb stick but it takes very long and some data could not be copied they also are write protected afterwards on the other computer
[18:28] <sfn> jkbbwr: have you tried disable nouveau kernel?
[18:28] <jkbbwr> sfn: how do I disable nouveau kernel
[18:29] <Beldar> jkbbwr, bummer, just info but your help now is much better than mine, on graphics I would just be googling for answers. ;)O
[18:29] <jkbbwr> I have googled loads buh nope
[18:29] <riobe_> jkbbwr: I had that when I was messing with drivers on CentOS. If you get to the balck screen and hit Alt+F4, does it take you to a command prompt? That's what happened to me, though I'm not sure if that's the case here.
[18:29] <jkbbwr> riobe_: nope
[18:29] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[18:29] <jkbbwr> nomodeset is also set but I still get a black screen
[18:29] <riobe_> jkbbwr: Sorry then, that's my only idea.
[18:30] <jkbbwr> whats $vt_handoff
[18:32] <riobe_> I've now tried making a bootable USB with Universal UBS Installer and with UNetbootin and get a "??? ???" error when saying continue with the option to replace drive with Ubuntu (14.04).  Anyone have any other ideas? I'd love to put Ubuntu on my machine if I could figure out what was causing this.
[18:33] <Jens1112> gonna ask in offtopic then
[18:33] <Jens1112> see you there
[18:33] <Beldar> !md5sum | Riobe
[18:34] <Beldar> riobe_, To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[18:34] <pavlos> Jens1112, you could use ssh
[18:34] <Beldar> riobe_, Lets check the sum of the iso just to get that out if the way.
[18:34] <riobe_> Beldar: I'll try. Just downloaded the image from the Ubuntu site so I assumed it would be good.
[18:35] <pavlos> Jens1112, man scp
[18:35] <Jens1112> @pavlos: ssh for network?
[18:35] <rick7568> ive tried a bunch of different solutions, and i cant get this tearing issue fixed. does anybody know hot to fix it?
[18:35] <jkbbwr> It gets stuck after resotoring resolver state
[18:35] <Beldar> riobe_, How old is the computer?
[18:36] <tengopreguntas> bekks: how do you install the cgconfig service in ubuntu
[18:36] <Jens1112> @pavlos: got to do some indeep websearch :)
[18:36] <riobe_> Beldar: The one I'm installing on is about 3 years old.
[18:36] <pavlos> Jens1112, assuming you have the usr/pass for both systems you could scp user@system12 user@system14 check the man page
[18:36] <Jens1112> @pavlos: thank you
[18:36] <Beldar> riobe_, My wonder is if this is a uefi bios computer?
[18:36] <pavlos> Jens1112, np
[18:37] <riobe_> Beldar: I think I know how to check. I'll look.
[18:37] <Beldar> riobe_, Are you booted to the live desktop?
[18:37] <riobe_> Beldar: No, but I can.
[18:38] <sfn> ask: guys do you know anything about appmenu indicator for xubuntu 12.04?
[18:38] <Beldar> riobe_, Lets do that we can check the partition table with a command and types of partitons.
[18:38] <Beldar> partitions*
[18:38] <riobe_> Beldar: You are quickly becoming my hero. lol
[18:39] <Beldar> riobe_, Lets wait to see if that plays out, never seen a ????? so you know......
[18:39] <rick7568> ive tried a bunch of different solutions, and i cant get this tearing issue fixed. does anybody know how to fix it?
[18:42] <z1haze> woudl someone mind helping me? im trying to use pastebinit but its just giving the regular link to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:42] <tengopreguntas> can anybody tell me where did the cgconfig service go in ubuntu 14.04 or how can i do to create it?
[18:42] <riobe_> Beldar: lol, of course. Just very nice to have some ideas of what to do. I'm looking around those links you gave, but I don't see where I can download a *.md5 file for the 14.04 desktop amd release. Still looking, so I can follow those directions
[18:43] <jkbbwr> Ga
[18:43] <jkbbwr> disabled nouveau and still getting black screen
[18:43] <riobe_> Beldar: And I hve the live desktop open on the computer I want to install on now.
[18:43] <jkbbwr> im gonna eat food
[18:43] <jkbbwr> brb
[18:43] <Beldar> riobe_, in the terminal run sudo parted -l and pastebin the output
[18:44] <z1haze> can someone help me use pastebinit? when i try it just links me to the main paste.ubuntu.com site
[18:44] <SchrodingersScat> z1haze: are you giving it something to pastebin?
[18:44] <Samtodd> Hello, I'm complete newbie to Linux. How do I install a .bin file?
[18:45] <sfn> Samtood: bin file?
[18:45] <bekks> Samtodd: You should never do that.
[18:45] <bekks> Samtodd: What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[18:45] <Samtodd> Trying to install iracing.com software.
[18:45] <pavlos> z1haze, http://linuxers.org/article/pastebinit-command-line-pastebin-client
[18:45] <Samtodd> I downloaded a .bin file
[18:45] <trism> tengopreguntas: I see cgconfigparser and example cgconfig.conf files in cgroup-bin if that's what you're looking for
[18:45] <z1haze> yea
[18:46] <riobe_> Beldar: There are definitely errors in there. I wish I knew more about partitioning. http://pastebin.com/wSKNSBUP
[18:46] <Samtodd> They also have a .deb
[18:46] <z1haze> i typed pastebinit ./config.xml
[18:46] <Samtodd> and a Linux RPM download
[18:46] <Samtodd> I chose the .bin at random
[18:46] <rsw> what's the command for restarting ssh on ubuntu 12.04?  ive tried various suggestions from google with no result
[18:47] <bekks> Samtodd: Then use the .deb
[18:47] <Samtodd> Okay, I'll try that.
[18:47] <Samtodd> Thanks bekks
[18:47] <blaaa> rsw: "sudo service ssh restart" does not work?
[18:47] <riobe_> Beldar: Just figured out the md5 part. My iso matches the hash it's supposed to: ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:48] <Beldar> riobe_, So multiple HD's which is the one you want to wipe for ubuntu?
[18:49] <pavlos> z1haze, I just installed pastebinit, then did "pastebinit file" and it gave me the link. You're doing something wrong.
[18:49] <rsw> i get "unrecognized service" blaaa .  this machine is the client, not the server.  im attempting to correct a write failed: broken pipe error
[18:49] <riobe_> Beldar: One of these is an SSD with Win7 on it right now. I'm trying to figure out from this output which is which. The Win7 one is the one I want to nuke and recreate as Ubuntu.
[18:50] <rsw> i have made alterations to /etc/ssh/ssh_config in the form of a line concerning the update interval, although i still get the error, restarting the service was recommended for the changes in the config file to take effect
[18:50] <riobe_> Beldar: I'm going to boot back into windows for a moment and see if I can find the names that are in that pastebin for my drives from there.
[18:50] <holstein> rsw: i would try connecting local host or on your lan.. i have found the "broken pipe" error to be network related..
[18:51] <Beldar> riobe_, Cool, is it possible to unplug all the other drives once you know?
[18:51] <rsw> i can't say i quite understand holstein , do you suggest it's not a configuration problem but rather related to the router/modem?
[18:51] <riobe_> Beldar: Yeah, I can do that.
[18:51] <holstein> rsw: thats what im suggesting you troubleshoot and isolate
[18:52] <tengopreguntas> trism: should i need to add it to /etc/rc.local manually?
[18:52] <Samtodd> How do I "run 'sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 ; sudo apt-get update"?
[18:52] <Beldar> riobe_, I suspect the errors are part of this, just a guess really, but we are closer to answers from me or the channel in general.
[18:52] <Samtodd> I have terminal open
[18:53] <Samtodd> Sorry guys, complete newbie here.
[18:54] <holstein> Samtodd: http://www.smokingonabike.com/2012/10/22/running-the-iracing-com-client-on-linux/ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/09/iracing-sim-game-comes-to-ubuntu
[18:54] <bekks> Samtodd: Type it into the terminal.
[18:54] <Samtodd> okay did it
[18:55] <Samtodd> I wish I knew what the hell that did but oh well.
[18:55] <bekks> Samtodd: Then why are you doing it?
[18:55] <Beldar> Samtodd, The deb can be installed with the ubuntu software center, right click the deb-properties and choose it with the open with.
[18:56] <Samtodd> it said to do it on 64bit before I install
[18:56] <bekks> Samtodd: What is "it"?
[18:56] <Samtodd> run the command I typed
[18:56] <Samtodd> "run 'sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 ; sudo apt-get update"?
[18:56] <bekks> Samtodd: Why do you run commands you have no clue about?
[18:57] <riobe_> Beldar: The M4-CT512M4SSD2 is the drive I'm trying to install on. Do you still thin it's worthwhile to take the other two out temporarily?
[18:57] <theadmin> Samtodd: There's no need to do that with Ubuntu, it has multiarch on by default
[18:57] <Samtodd> On 64-bit flavors of Debian and some Ubuntu variants, first open a terminal and run .....
[18:57] <Samtodd> thats why I did it.
[18:57] <Beldar> riobe_, Would be a good start, there is no raid or identical partitions in this HD set?
[18:58] <riobe_> Nope
[18:58] <riobe_> Just 3 HD's.
[18:59] <Beldar> riobe_, The errors we see in the last command post I cannot really tell where they are so my thought is pulling the HD's to see if any differing situation.
[19:01] <Samtodd> Well, It appeared to install but now what?
[19:01] <Samtodd> I don't see a way to open it.
[19:01] <Beldar> riobe_, The ???? may just be from you having 3 HD's and the installer need to be pointed at the correct one.
[19:01] <bekks> Samtodd: What exactly did you do?
[19:01] <riobe_> Beldar: If I get that lucky, I'll be estatic.
[19:01] <Samtodd> I hit "install" in the Ubuntu Software Center.
[19:02] <Beldar> riobe_, 3 hd's would mean a manual install is all.
[19:02] <Samtodd> the little bar moved all the way
[19:02] <bekks> Samtodd: "Install" what?
[19:02] <Samtodd> The iracing.com software.
[19:03] <Samtodd> the .deb file
[19:05] <Samtodd> Please remember I have no clue what the heck I'm doing. Obriendave told me this is THE place to ask stupid questions.
[19:06] <rsw> well i can actually say my problem is most likely server-side, since my other shell account with another provider works flawlessly
[19:06] <riobe_> Beldar: Not sure if it will work the whole way, but I just got to the time zone selection screen with no errors. Which is a very very good sign.
[19:07] <Beldar> riobe_, I think you will be fine the auto install was confused by 3 HD's I think.
[19:07] <Samtodd> So, what do I do now?
[19:08] <Samtodd> go back to windows is what I'm thinking.
[19:08] <Beldar> riobe_, JUst be sure this HD is the first read in the bios when you add the other HD's back.
[19:08] <bekks> Samtodd: So why dont you open the dash menu on the top left and type something like "racing" to search for it?
[19:09] <Samtodd> I did, it didn't show up
[19:09] <mint> Hi. Please help! I'm running ubuntu 12.04, but with the latest update the computer doesn't boot, because grub has no menu entries! I'm currently running the computer with a live system. I tried to repair it with: mount dev, sys and proc with bind, then chroot and finally called update-grub. The output in the console seems ok, because all installed OS are found, BUT grub.cfg does not contain any menu entry!!
[19:09] <bekks> Samtodd: What else did you search for?
[19:09] <Samtodd> wait
[19:09] <riobe_> Beldar: It appears to be installing happily now.  I think you succeeded in being my hero for the day. lol And yeah, I'll make sure the boot order is correct. Thank you a ton!
[19:09] <Samtodd> I found it
[19:10] <wowas> h
[19:10] <Samtodd> hang on now it needs updates
[19:11] <Beldar> riobe_, No problem, I think a manual install would have worked, it just can be confusing if not used before, enjoy. ;)
[19:12] <dillon> yo
[19:12] <mint> No one can help me?
[19:12] <Official_Pants> Hi. I'm very new to Ubuntu and Linux, and I was trying out the live cd, but I couldn't connect to my wifi. Is there any way Ubuntu could kinda 'scan' like osx or windows does? Or do I have to put everything manually. Sorry if this is a stupid question
[19:13] <Samtodd> bekks, thanks. its updating inside the software now, I hope my controllers will work without much of a fight.
[19:13] <Beldar> Official_Pants, Run lspci in the terminal and identify the wifi hardware to the channel.
[19:14] <Official_Pants> Okay.
[19:14] <Beldar> mint, This ubuntu or mint?
[19:14] <Official_Pants> Thanks
[19:16] <Beldar> mint, use this app, do not repair just run the bootinfo summary and post the url given to it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:17] <rsw> actually, nevermind, i do get the same error with both shell account providers, so it must be client-side
[19:17] <vol4ko> Server API: 	Apache 2.0 Handler
[19:17] <vol4ko> this is mod_php?
[19:18] <Beldar> mint, Have some patience, I have asked you a question and a app to run.
[19:19] <Beldar> responding is part of the help. mint,
[19:20] <dillon> hi, I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu (Xubuntu specifically). The installer just skips the screen where it asks to install alongside windows and goes straight to the partition screen. There are no devices listed on the partition screen.
[19:22] <Beldar> dillon, W8 perchance?
[19:22] <reisio> dillon: undoubtedly meaning 'Windows 8'
[19:23] <Beldar> indubitably
[19:23] <Just1689> Ein Stack Ein JVM Ein Database! Heil Sun!
[19:23] <reisio> :/
[19:23] <dillon> I have windows 7 installed
[19:24] <Just1689> Windows 7 is racist
[19:24] <bekks> Just1689: Thats irrelevant for support.
[19:24] <Just1689> Apologies. Cheers
[19:24] <Beldar> dillon, Close the installer open a terminal and run sudo parted -l and pastebin the results. Preface answers to others with their nick
[19:24] <bekks> dillon: Then you have to find out which disk controller you actually have.
[19:29] <dillon> http://pastebin.com/FERjxWBv
[19:30] <dillon> only my usb stick shows up
[19:30] <dillon> pretty sure I booted from cd also
[19:30] <Samtodd> permission denied in terminal
[19:30] <Samtodd> How do I fix this?
[19:30] <siddhesh> hey hi friend i need some help in installing compat-drivers so plz help me
[19:31] <Samtodd> E: could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Perminssion denied)
[19:31] <Beldar> siddhesh, Details are needed and associated hardware.
[19:31] <bekks> Samtodd: Which command are you trying there...?
[19:32] <Samtodd> apt - get install libosmesa6:1386
[19:32] <dillon> type sudo before that
[19:32] <siddhesh>  i am using ubuntu 13.04 and my hardware is i3 2nd gen 4 gb ram
[19:33] <Beldar> siddhesh, 13.04 is end of life not supported.
[19:34] <Samtodd> bekks, How do I get root access?
[19:34] <dillon> sudo command
[19:34] <WHAT_UP> I'm on xubuntu 14.04 LTS, and every couple minutes, my screen randomly bugs out and shows me what was open on my desktop some half hour ago rather than what's actually going on now. I need to drag stuff around to "erase" the old image it's showing me. What's going on?
[19:34] <Samtodd> okay
[19:34] <basketball> Samtodd,  sudo -s
[19:35] <bekks> basketball: sudo -s is not needed, sudo apt-get ... is sufficient.
[19:35] <reisio> WHAT_UP: what graphics device?
[19:35] <basketball> bekks,  but you could run sudo -s and then just apt-get
[19:35] <bekks> basketball: Which is unnecessary :)
[19:36] <WHAT_UP> reisio: some radeon hd card
[19:36] <Beldar> WHAT_UP, I would do a memory test, hard to say rather strange.
[19:38] <Samtodd> How do I paste to the terminal?
[19:38] <bekks> !pastebinit | Samtodd
[19:39] <reisio> WHAT_UP: probably to do with your graphics device and/or driver, figure out what you have and try something different
[19:39] <reisio> WHAT_UP: or just disable graphics acceleration
[19:39] <WHAT_UP> reisio: will i still be able to watch the world cup with that? :o
[19:39] <reisio> WHAT_UP: yup
[19:40] <WHAT_UP> anyway, i'll check more carefully in a couple of days... deadline coming up in a couple of days :\
[19:41] <WHAT_UP> thanks for the help, reisio and Beldar!
[19:42] <Samtodd> whats the equivalent to notepad?
[19:43] <bekks> Samtodd: gedit
[19:43] <Samtodd> bekks, thanks
[19:45] <dillon> any ideas on what else I can try?
[19:47] <reisio> dillon: you can't get devices to show up?
[19:48] <Nodwolf> cntrl f?
[19:48] <dillon> my hardrive won't show up
[19:48] <dillon> flash drive does
[19:48] <reisio> dillon: sure the drive is still connected?
[19:48] <dillon> yes
[19:49] <dillon> I have windows 7 on it
[19:49] <reisio> dillon: okay, I'd try the live image at http://www.sysresccd.org/ and see if it can see the drive
[19:49] <dillon> ok
[19:50] <Beldar> !who | dillon
[19:50] <dillon> ubottu, got it
[19:50] <Beldar> dillon, Always use nicks here please or you get lost.
[19:50] <reisio> at least if you're speaking to someone in particular :p
[19:51] <Beldar> indubitably ;)
[19:51] <Beldar> just messing with your neck bolts
[20:02] <Samtodd> okay guys, my steering wheel is recognized and works properly but the pedals do not show up? any ideas?
[20:02] <Nodwolf> HOw do I open Terminal?
[20:03] <tyulgdfkljh> Hello.
[20:04] <dillon> nodwolf, open terminal with ctrl + alt + t
[20:05] <Nodwolf> dillon, Sweet, thanks bro
[20:07] <Coihue> Hi people, I wonder if there's a program that would let me manage a neighborhood club and specially control memberships fees.. thank you in advance
[20:07] <reisio> Coihue: that's pretty vague
[20:07] <reisio> sounds like a spreadsheet would do you, though
[20:07] <subone> Can anyone tell me how I can update the tab complete that comes after "sudo service servicename ". I don't know how it is generated but it seems it generated it by my service's usage output, but is old
[20:09] <Samtodd> the device is detected using lsusb
[20:09] <Coihue> reisio, I need a db of the members, and to know if they are up to date with their fees, just that :S
[20:14] <reisio> Coihue: spreadsheet app
[20:14] <Nodwolf> How can I copy text outside of Ubuntu, ran in VM, and paste it insdide?
[20:14] <reisio> Coihue: though personally I would use a simple tab-delimited text file
[20:15] <reisio> Nodwolf: what VM?
[20:15] <usr13> Nodwolf: you can't copy text to an application in a VM from outside it.
[20:15] <Coihue> Well, thank you reisio.
[20:15] <Nodwolf> reisio, Oracle VM Virtual Box
[20:15] <reisio> usr13: sure you can
[20:15] <usr13> reisio: Really?
[20:15] <reisio> really
[20:16] <reisio> Nodwolf: shutdown the guest OS, then go into its prefs
[20:16] <meganerd> usr13: if the client tools for the hypervisor are installed you can copy and paste
[20:16] <robynata> :-D
[20:16] <reisio> Nodwolf: https://www.virtualbox.org/attachment/ticket/11080/VB_shared_Clipboard.png
[20:17] <usr13> reisio: meganerd Ok, certian circumstances will make pasting text into a VM possible, but normally, no.
[20:17] <Nodwolf> reisio: Well that was faily simple, thanks
[20:18] <usr13> meganerd: SO how do you enable the "hypervisor"?
[20:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Nodwolf: You may need to install the Guest Additions module too
[20:19] <meganerd> usr13: depends on the OS, VMWare, kvm, xen, virtualbox, Hyper-v are all hypervisors
[20:19] <meganerd> usr13: so I would be inclined to say RTFM for the hypervisor you are interested in.
[20:19] <usr13> meganerd: Oh, yea, I was thinking of VNC, sorry...
[20:19] <meganerd> usr13: np
[20:20] <jkbbwr> and im back
[20:20] <jkbbwr> Still havent solved the nvidia issue
[20:20] <jkbbwr> I have a gtx 670m on a alienware motherboard
[20:20] <jkbbwr> and every time I install the nvidia-current drivers it boots into a black screen
[20:20] <jkbbwr> no matter what I do
[20:21] <reisio> usr13: it's just a feature, like anything, you can exploit it or not
[20:21] <reisio> nothing wrong with being ignorant of something :p
[20:21] <reisio> unless that something is contraception :)
[20:21] <basketball> how can i have my sleep and wake on a schedule
[20:22] <Bashing-om> jkbbwr: The 670m, is that optimus technokogy ? -> BumbleBee or Nvidia-prime .
[20:22] <jkbbwr> I dont know if its optimus
[20:24] <meganerd> jkbbwr: in your bios/uefi interface, what is the video device set to?
[20:24] <Samtodd> Looks like linux is great if you enjoy spending hours trying to make something work properly. If you just want to use the software Windows is the way to go.
[20:24] <meganerd> Samtodd:  not really, you still spend hours installing apps and drivers
[20:24] <meganerd> Samtodd: nice troll attempt though
[20:25] <Samtodd> can't blame a guy for trying
[20:25] <meganerd> Samtodd: you could try to be original
[20:25] <Samtodd> I prefer the tried and true method.
[20:25] <meganerd> Samtodd: It's not like I hadn't hear that in the 90's :)
[20:26] <sudoritz> anyone know how i can convert Date format to epoch 07-02-2014 14:12:02
[20:26] <meganerd> Samtodd: besides, if you have used Windows 8, you spend even more time making the UI sane
[20:26] <sudoritz> i tried date +%s -d"07-02-2014 14:12:02"
[20:26] <Samtodd> meganerd, I'm just frustrated.
[20:26] <sudoritz> but it seems invalid
[20:26] <Samtodd> meganerd, I haven't used Windows 8 yet.
[20:26] <reisio> sudoritz: ask ##linu
[20:26] <reisio> sudoritz: ask ##linux
[20:26] <Samtodd> I got a copy for christmas but scared to even try.
[20:27] <meganerd> Samtodd: I can certainly sympathise with that feeling, we have all been there.  I have been there with every OS I have used, so from my perspective they all suck.  Just Linux a little less IMHO.
[20:27] <Samtodd> meganerd, I have to be a freakin programmer to install a game!
[20:28] <riobe> Is there a way to change the hotkey that Alt+F2 defaults to in Unity? I didn't see it in the system settings keyboard shortcuts
[20:29] <Deihmos> meganerd, win 8 ui is great
[20:30] <Samtodd> I enjoy the way Ubuntu looks and works, but I just don't know how to make it do what I want it to do.
[20:30] <reisio> Samtodd: what do you want it to do?
[20:30] <jkbbwr> Ugh im gonna do a fresh install
[20:30] <jkbbwr> :(
[20:30] <reisio> Deihmos: hooray for rectangles...
[20:30] <reisio> jkbbwr: what for?
[20:31] <jkbbwr> reisio: cant get past this sodding black screen nvidia issue
[20:31] <jkbbwr> fresh install time#
[20:31] <K21> Hola
[20:31] <reisio> jkbbwr: nope :p
[20:31] <K21> Com
[20:31] <reisio> why would reinstalling help
[20:31] <reisio> K21: hi
[20:31] <K21> hey
[20:31] <Samtodd> reisio, I want my in game graphics issues to be fixed. And I want my controllers to be recognized.
[20:31] <jkbbwr> reisio: because Id get back to a clean non messed up state.....
[20:31] <K21> espanish _
[20:31] <meganerd> Deihmos: I guess if you don't like looking at two apps at the same time, and have a touch interface, and like wasting screen real estate, and don't use apps that are not integrated, then maybe?
[20:31] <K21> spanish ?
[20:31] <reisio> Samtodd: well pick an issue and we'll talk about it
[20:32] <reisio> K21: /msg alis list *ubunt*es
[20:32] <K21> chat encrypted
[20:32] <Samtodd> reisio, Okay lets start with the controller
[20:32] <reisio> okay
[20:32] <K21> ho;la
[20:32] <reisio> what's wrong with your controller?
[20:32] <K21> hola
[20:33] <Bashing-om> jkbbwr: I know of now way to determine what graphics are installed with out able to boot ub 'buntu, IF this is optimus technology ( highly likely) see:  Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | IRC info: http://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | Release Notes: http://ubot
[20:33] <K21> __
[20:33] <Deihmos> I can look at two apps. I don't understand what you are talking about
[20:33] <K21> ??
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[20:33] <Samtodd> reisio,  its a racing game, so there is a usb wheel and usb pedals. the wheel works the pedals don't
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[20:33] <Bashing-om> 15:26 < reisio> sudoritz: ask ##linu
[20:33] <pavlos> !es | K21
[20:33] <Bashing-om> 15:26 < reisio> sudoritz: ask ##linux
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[20:33] <unopaste> Bashing-om you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:33] <reisio> Samtodd: how are the pedals connected?
[20:33] <Samtodd> USB
[20:34] <droetker2> Hello. My "linux-generic" package is broken. I can not install any apps. I tried apt-get clean, update, upgrade, install -f and pkg --configure -a... What do I do?
[20:34] <reisio> Samtodd: what does lsusb say about them?
[20:34] <Samtodd> reisio, they both show up, I think.
[20:34] <reisio> droetker2: what error message do you get?
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[20:34] <reisio> Samtodd: as what
[20:34] <Bashing-om> 15:30 < Samtodd> I enjoy the way Ubuntu looks and works, but I just don't know how to make it do what I want it to do.
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[20:34] <reisio> !ops Bashing-om spammer
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[20:34] <Bashing-om> 15:30 < reisio> Samtodd: what do you want it to do?
[20:34] <Bashing-om> 15:30 < jkbbwr> Ugh im gonna do a fresh install
[20:34] <Bashing-om> 15:30 < jkbbwr> :(
[20:34] <Bashing-om> 15:30 < reisio> Deihmos: hooray for rectangles...
[20:34] <Bashing-om> 15:30 < reisio> jkbbwr: what for?
[20:34] <unopaste> Bashing-om you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:34] <reisio> :)
[20:35] <Samtodd> bus 002 Device 007: ID 0eb7:1839
[20:35] <w4|k3r> jkbbwr: Are you facing any problems with Optimus Technology cards?
[20:35] <Samtodd> bus 002 device 007: ID 0eb7:0197
[20:36] <Samtodd> I don't know for sure which is pedals and which is wheel.
[20:36] <K21> HOla+
[20:36] <Samtodd> but they both end with Endor AG which is the company
[20:36] <K21> alguien en español
[20:36] <riobe> Is there a way to change the Alt+F2 hotkey to run a single command in Ubuntu?
[20:36] <basketball> what is the rtcwake command to have computer wake at 5 20 pm every week day
[20:36] <pavlos> !es | K21
[20:37] <K21>  ubottu
[20:37] <Samtodd> reisio?
[20:37] <Coihue> k21, aca
[20:37] <w4|k3r> K21: that's the ubuntu channel bot
[20:37] <K21> Coihue
[20:38] <K21> ?
[20:38] <Coihue> En que te puedo ayudar?
[20:38] <K21> porfin
[20:38] <K21> mira
[20:38] <K21> eske quiero enlazar irc con centerim
[20:38] <K21> pero en un servidor cryptocat!!
[20:39] <IdleOne> K21, Coihue Please use #ubuntu-es if you wish to speak in Spanish
[20:39] <K21> IdleOne
[20:39] <Coihue> (servidor) esta lejos de mi conocimiento, je mejor estra en #ubuntu-es es lento, pero hay gente que sabe de todo
[20:39] <K21> ok
[20:39] <K21> help me
[20:40] <K21> ok
[20:40] <K21> gracias
[20:43] <kux> Is there an easy way to learn about partitioning?
[20:43] <Samtodd> reisio?
[20:45] <reisio> Samtodd: heya
[20:45] <reisio> kux: sure
[20:45] <riobe> kux: How about this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[20:45] <kux> Thanks!
[20:46] <Bashing-om> jkbbwr: See my last, Regret the inadvertent paste ! see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2181869 IF you are of optimus technology .
[20:46] <Samtodd> bus 002 device 007: ID 0eb7:0197 Endor AG
[20:46] <reisio> Bashing-om: hrmm?
[20:46] <reisio> Samtodd: is the pedals?
[20:46] <Samtodd> bus 002 Device 008: ID 0eb7:1839 Endor AG
[20:46] <Samtodd> I don't know which is the pedals
[20:47] <nimittc> hi
[20:47] <reisio> Samtodd: how many cables for the wheel and pedals both?
[20:47] <reisio> nimittc: hi
[20:47] <Samtodd> One USB cable for the wheel, and One usb cable for the pedals
[20:47] <Samtodd> two seperate cables
[20:47] <reisio> sep-a-rate
[20:47] <Bashing-om> reisio: Lot's I do not know in general // and I do make mistakes ! .. in respect to 670m (mobility) could be optimus.
[20:47] <reisio> lots*
[20:48] <reisio> Bashing-om: what do you need to know?
[20:48] <reisio> Samtodd: can you paste the output of lsusb in its entirety?
[20:48] <Samtodd> yeah
[20:48] <Samtodd> root@Ubuntu14:~# lsusb
[20:48] <Samtodd> Bus 002 Device 006: ID 0cf3:3005 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR3011 Bluetooth
[20:48] <Samtodd> Bus 002 Device 008: ID 0eb7:1839 Endor AG
[20:48] <Samtodd> Bus 002 Device 007: ID 0eb7:0197 Endor AG
[20:48] <Samtodd> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 046d:c517 Logitech, Inc. LX710 Cordless Desktop Laser
[20:48] <unopaste> Samtodd you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:48] <reisio> Samtodd: sorry, I meant at a pastebin, like dpaste.com
[20:49] <Samtodd> Sorry
[20:49] <Bashing-om> reisio: In respect to jkbbwr's request for assistance in getting a driver loaded for his 670m card .. depends on wheather it is oprimus or not. I know of no means to aid if we can not boot ubuntu to see.
[20:49] <Samtodd> reisio, that is it in its entirety
[20:50] <reisio> Bashing-om: ah
[20:50] <reisio> Samtodd: four lines?
[20:50] <Samtodd> no
[20:50] <Samtodd> reisio, they all showed up on my screen before I got muted.
[20:51] <reisio> Samtodd: unfortunately your screen isn't mine :) dpaste.com
[20:51] <Samtodd> http://dpaste.com/2X8JGFF
[20:53] <Bashing-om> jkbbwr: What we might do is look in bios and see what graphics are available, maybe you have both Intel and Nvidia ? // disabl;e say the Intel in bios and boot up with Nvidia -> nomodeset as a boot parameter ?
[20:55] <Samtodd> reisio, http://dpaste.com/2X8JGFF
[20:58] <reisio> Samtodd: endor?
[20:58] <Samtodd> Yes
[21:01] <reisio> Samtodd: is that the wheel and pedals?
[21:02] <Samtodd> reisio, Yes
[21:02] <Samtodd> reisio, I don't know which is which, but they are both there.
[21:06] <Samtodd> reisio, 1839 is the pedals
[21:06] <Samtodd> reisio, 0eb7:1839 that one is the pedals
[21:08] <BuckWheat> jeeze louizze the place is crowded
[21:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh how crowded...
[21:08] <StarKat> 1600 people
[21:09] <BuckWheat> dang thats a lotta people
[21:09] <Samtodd> and no one is talking
[21:09] <BuckWheat> amazing
[21:10] <Beldar> !ot | BuckWheat
[21:10] <BuckWheat> must be something going on like their might just be other rooms
[21:11] <BuckWheat> dang I got a funny looking hat too
[21:13] <reisio> best sort
[21:14] <Samtodd> well reisio, Are we going to troubleshoot this or not?
[21:32] <Guido1> Hello, Iḿ searching for a shortcut. normaly the is a button which can be used as alternative for the right click of the mouse, but what is the shortcutr if this buutton is missing?
[21:33] <reisio> Guido1: could use xdotool click 2
[21:34] <Guido1> reisio: there is an alteranntive shortcut which i somtimes activate by accident, but i don know how
[21:35]  * reisio shrugs
[21:35] <reisio> ask ##linux
[21:36] <atlarge> Hey I want to make a partition on a hard drive then put ubuntu image on it and make it bootable. Is that possible? and if it is, how do I do it?
[21:36] <reisio> atlarge: what would the partition be for?
[21:36] <reisio> hiding it?
[21:37] <atlarge> reisio no for installing on a bigger partition on the harddrive...
[21:37] <eeee> Guido1: press the left mouse button
[21:37] <reisio> atlarge: mmm
[21:37] <thestroke> hello
[21:37] <eeee> (hold it, and press the other button next to the right alt)
[21:37] <Guido1> eeee: i want an alterantive for the mouse
[21:37] <eeee> and you get a "right click)
[21:37] <reisio> atlarge: partition, put the image there, install and configure a boot loader
[21:38] <atlarge> reisio, thats all i have to do?
[21:38] <atlarge> reisio, i'm on a netbook that's why.
[21:38] <reisio> atlarge: that's why what?
[21:38] <reisio> GRUB can boot an image, you just have to configure it properly
[21:39] <reisio> tuts abound
[21:39] <atlarge> reisio, there's no disk drive and I want to install ubuntu
[21:39] <atlarge> reisio, i see
[21:39] <reisio> atlarge: you could use a usb stick
[21:39] <reisio> atlarge: but how would you make the partition?
[21:40] <atlarge> using disks on fedora
[21:40] <reisio> oh okay
[21:40] <reisio> how'd you get fedora on there? :p
[21:41] <atlarge> reisio, i have an ehdd that i installed it on lol
[21:42] <reisio> atlarge: ehdd?
[21:44] <reisio> atlarge: lose some fingers in an accident or something? :p
[21:45] <reisio> atlarge: probably however you installed Fedora would also work to install Ubuntu
[21:45] <reisio> on the internal disk as well
[21:56] <mystronyx> Is there a way to use the Cheese Edge visual effect for web camming?
[21:56] <mystronyx> Only options I see are to take a photo or record a video.
[21:59] <maxterlyn> looooooooooooooooool
[21:59] <maxterlyn> test
[21:59] <maxterlyn> LMAO
[21:59] <maxterlyn> loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[22:00] <rancato>   /load.xchat2/budus.so
[22:02] <rancato> XChat:  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[22:05] <confused889> ive got a folder with a name of 9 random letters and numbers and size of 770mb but i cant ls it or rm it. if i do the ls or rm just sit reading/writting the hard non stop. iam using 14.04
[22:06] <gbear14275> hey guys trying to get a remote desktop working with remnia... having some issues.  I have remote ssh working.  Can anyone give me a hand?
[22:07] <gbear14275> under the basic settings... server should be their IP address correct?  Do I need a port?
[22:08] <gbear14275> and do I leave domain blank?
[22:08] <gbear14275> I keep on getting a unable to connect
[22:09] <gbear14275> tried to follow this how-to but they switched mid thread to using x11vnc and never got it working >-(
[22:11] <knob> Hello everyone.
[22:12] <gbear14275> Hello knob
[22:12] <knob> Got more n00b questions.   I have been trying to get this to work for the past hour.      I plugged in a USB drive which was formatted in Windows
[22:12] <knob> Helo gbear
[22:12] <knob> gbear14275,
[22:12] <know1_2> confused889: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/6648/change-directory-by-inode
[22:12] <knob> It has automounted in ubuntu as Read-Only
[22:12] <knob> I have tried various things... yet, can't get it to work.
[22:12] <gbear14275> knob what are you trying to do?
[22:12] <knob> Any idea what I can do/try?
[22:13] <knob> gbear14275, I would like to copy/paste/remove/delete/modify files inside the usb drive.        So I can format it no problem.
[22:13] <k1l> knob: could be some hardware failure from that drive. see "dmesg" what it says after you plugged that in
[22:14] <knob> gbear14275, desktop, yet if you tell me terminal, it would be awesome.   I like to know what is going on behind the scenes
[22:14] <gbear14275> well I can only offer amateur advice... when you plug in the usb drive it should open using the file browser on the desktop
[22:14] <gbear14275> should plug and play
[22:14] <knob> demsg says a couple of things, yet it does say towards the end:      FAT-fs (sdb1): error, fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0)
[22:14] <confused889> know1_2 i can get inside it but cant list it
[22:15] <technocf> I'm getting this issue with starting tmux from a script on Ubuntu Server 14.04... http://pastebin.com/xXUNZqdf
[22:15] <k1l> knob: if you are unsure about the dmesg output out all that into a pastebin and show the link here
[22:15] <knob> gbear14275, I know... yet... not sure what happened with this one.
[22:15] <knob> k1l, ok... one sec
[22:16] <knob> k1l, http://pastebin.com/ihAHxq1t
[22:16] <k1l> knob: FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.
[22:17] <knob> k1l, ok... I did that, and I *think*  I picked the right options.   There were like 3-4 things to "fix".... I am going to run it again now, and tell you what it says:
[22:17] <knob> First question, it is telling me there are differences between boot sector and its backup.      Copy original to backup?   Backup to original?   No action?
[22:17] <k1l> knob: sudo fsck /dev/sdb1
[22:18] <knob> Yep... that's what I Did.    Finally learned to use sudo  :)
[22:20] <k1l> knob: 1
[22:20] <know1_2> confused889: fsck the disk?
[22:21] <confused889> know1_2 yup no problems with it
[22:21] <confused889> did a fsck -f
[22:21] <knob> k1l, I answered three fixes from fsck, and the problem is (I think) that it ends with   "Leaving file system unchanged."    I would believe because it is mounted as read-only?
[22:22] <k1l> knob: unmount it first
[22:22] <knob> okok
[22:22] <k1l> knob: and then run fsck with "-r" for repair
[22:23] <gbear14275> anyone able to help a new remnia user?  Having rdp problems
[22:23] <know1_2> confused889: Try "find . -maxdepth 1 -type d" in the dir
[22:23] <confused889> the weird think is when ls -l it say it folder/dir but it shows the size to it not just 4096
[22:23] <confused889> *thing
[22:24] <knob> k1l, ok, did that.   It repaired the errors (three total).
[22:24] <confused889> know1_2: did that just got . and just keeps reading
[22:24] <know1_2> confused889: "file <directory thing>" ?
[22:24] <Bashing-om> knob: My advise, FAT-fsNTFS = Windows. linux does have limited cababilities to cope with NTFS ( anad maybe fat) .. but the better tools are to use the native tools. Use Windows to "safely" unmount the drive, and use windows to do the disk check.
[22:25] <confused889> know1_2: Cnz5yZgKIA: directory
[22:25] <TJ-> confused889: it is possible there's a circular sym-link in the directory.
[22:25] <knob> Bashing-om, thanks man.  I already backed up all contents of the drive,... so I would be happy to format it fully (with a Windows-compatible option)
[22:26] <confused889> TJ-: link to its self type thing?
[22:26] <knob> k1l, I remounted the drive as    mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb                  and it mounted... yet it is still Read-Only
[22:26] <TJ-> confused889: possibly. see if you can find any/all symlinks to check them, using "find /path/to/dir -type l -ls"
[22:27] <Bashing-om> knob: Window might be able to fix ? - ager ubuntu 'fsck[ O realy do not know, .. and NTFS format had become universal ..
[22:27] <Bashing-om> ager/after
[22:27] <k1l> knob: see dmesg again after unplugging
[22:28] <know1_2> TJ- find's default behaviour should no-follow, so it should have returned
[22:28] <confused889> TJ-:  ls -lh doesnt showing it linking to anything
[22:28] <gbear14275> anyone successfully rdp into a new 14.04 machine yet?
[22:28] <gbear14275> over then internet
[22:29] <confused889> if i try and do anything thing with dir just wont stop reading till a ctrl c
[22:31] <ouyes> Is there anybody that knows how to safely remove floppy after unmount the floppy?
[22:31] <knob> k1l, dang... I ran fsck -r /dev/sdb1         performed repairs.       I then unplugged, re-plugged... and      dmesg is still telling me      FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.
[22:31] <ouyes> I see the indicator lights of the floppy is still on
[22:31] <reisio> ouyes: press the button?
[22:31] <k1l> ouyes: eject
[22:31] <reisio> ouyes: if 'mount' says it isn't mounted, that's all there is
[22:32] <ouyes> reisio, eject command doesn't work
[22:32] <reisio> also, get yourself a usb stick :p
[22:32] <reisio> ouyes: I didn't say eject
[22:32] <know1_2> confused889: how long you let ls go before killing it?
[22:32] <ogrgkyle> Hello.  What's the smallest Ubuntu distro?  Lubuntu?
[22:32] <k1l> ouyes: floppy drives got a button to eject
[22:32] <ouyes> k1l, eject command does not work
[22:32] <reisio> ogrgkyle: mostly
[22:32] <k1l> ouyes: where is the issue at all?
[22:32] <reisio> ouyes: press the button next to the drive opening
[22:33] <technocf> Any one got any ideas for why this is happening, using Ubuntu 14.04 server... http://pastebin.com/xXUNZqdf
[22:33] <confused889> know1_2: over half an hour
[22:33] <reisio> technocf: why what is happening?
[22:33] <ouyes> k1l, when I press the button, I heard a sound, it seems the drive is still reading on the floppy
[22:33] <technocf> The pastebin shows
[22:33] <k1l> ouyes: there are other smaller desktops in the repos like awesome etc, but lubunut is the most lightwight iso. you could run the mini iso
[22:33] <confused889> though it would be enough seening as it was claming 770mb
[22:33] <ouyes> do you guys remember, how do you remove your usb drive?
[22:33] <reisio> ouyes: hrmm?
[22:34] <technocf> reisio: The issue is here Any one got any ideas for why this is happening, using Ubuntu 14.04 server... http://pastebin.com/xXUNZqdf
[22:34] <technocf> reisio: http://pastebin.com/xXUNZqdf **
[22:34] <ouyes> k1l, reisio I am running lubuntu right now, when we remove usb device, we will do unmount and eject or safely remove then hardware unplug right?
[22:35] <k1l> ouyes: is it unmounted?
[22:35] <ouyes> k1l, yes
[22:35] <k1l> ouyes: what now? you told its a floppy? now its a usb drive?
[22:35] <k1l> ouyes: unmount it, remove it, done
[22:36] <ouyes> k1l, I mean the way we remove the floppy should be the same as we remove some usb device. unmount, eject or safely remove then hardware remove.
[22:36] <know1_2> coufused889: Could this have been a zip bomb?
[22:38] <confused889> know1_2:  i dont think so.
[22:38] <knob> Wow...    I just want to start from scratch.   How do I delete everything and just start from zero?   I can't believe it doesn't work.
[22:38] <k1l> knob: use gparted
[22:38] <TJ-> confused889: how about limiting the depth of the search? "find /path/to/dir -maxdepth 1" ... then 2 ... 3 ... etc. See at which point it hangs for the long period
[22:38] <k1l> knob: its a gui tool for partitioning
[22:40] <confused889> TJ-: find Cnz5yZgKIA -maxdepth 1 - its just reading non stop and no files reported
[22:40] <TJ-> confused889: Definitely a bad file-system then, sounds like circular inodes or similar
[22:41] <TJ-> confused889: Have you checked the kernel logs in case the underlying hardware is reporting failures?
[22:41] <freezer> penises?
[22:41] <knob> Ok, k1l , I just deleted the partition with gparted... apply.   Created a new partition, apply.       Now when I run dmesg, it tells  me volume was not properly unmounted.    I think this might be physically damaged?
[22:42] <TJ-> confused889: also, whilst 'find' is running, what does "ps -efly | grep find" show for the state of the 'find ...' process itself?
[22:42] <k1l> knob: yep. i think that drive is gone
[22:42] <knob> k1l, here is the new dmesg: http://pastebin.com/jZztiKC1
[22:42] <knob> Wow... odd.   Appeared to be a good drive.
[22:42] <knob> =\
[22:43] <confused889> TJ-: 3692  3458  3  80   0<PHONE_NUMBER>2 sleep_ 23:39 pts/14  00:00:05 find Cnz5yZgKIA -maxdepth 1
[22:43] <confused889> TJ-: just did a tail on kernel.log nothing really
[22:44] <gbear14275> anyone willing to help me get rdp running?  Tried using remnia but no uck
[22:44] <gbear14275> have ssh on remote machine... trying to get rdp working or vnc... or any remote desktop functionality
[22:44] <riobe> Is there a good tutorial for getting started coding C++ on Linux (Ubuntu) without an IDE? I'm used to Visual Studio, but there seems to be a strong bias towards the shell for coding in Linux.
[22:46] <presonic> i have a windows 7 box with a partition that uses the entire drive, if i boot from ubuntu install cd, will i be able to resize it for a linux partition?
[22:46] <ObrienDave> yes
[22:46] <presonic> k thanks
[22:47] <ObrienDave> the installer will ask you if you want to install alongside Win7. it should give you the option to define how much you want to dedicate to Linux
[22:48] <confused889> bugger. guess delete partion and start again
[22:48] <TJ-> confused889: Interesting... 'find' is in 'sleep' state ?
[22:48] <confused889> TJ-: yup but hard hasnt stop readding
[22:48] <confused889> *hdd
[22:49] <knob> Ok, please help.          I took another different USB drive... I plugged it into my computer.  ubuntu automounted it.     It is read-only.
[22:49] <TJ-> confused889: 'sleep' is usual when the kernel is waiting for the hardware I/O to complete
[22:49] <knob> I deleted the partition via gparted, I created a new partition.... I mounted it... and it is read-only
[22:49] <knob> What the heck is going on?
[22:49] <knob> This can't be
[22:50] <confused889> TJ-: weird. its reading... well the hdd light hasnt gone off.
[22:51] <knob> help
[22:51] <TJ-> confused889: If I were you, I'd reboot, then run the SMART tests on the drive to ensure it is healthy (smartmontools package, "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdx" )
[22:52] <confused889> TJ-: ok mate. will do. cheers and thanks to know1_2 as well.
[22:52] <knob> The destination is read-only
[22:53] <ObrienDave> what FS is on the USB?
[22:53] <riobe> Can you change the Alt+F2 hotkey to something else on Unity in Ubuntu? When I go to Keyboard->shortcuts in system settings I don't see it there to change.
[22:54] <ObrienDave> i owe, i owe, it's off to work i go. l8r
[22:55] <knob> Wow...  still not working.    That is done in the mounting. As you are not mounting from /etc/fstab, I do not know what else to advise but to explicitly mount the in /etc/fstab file.
[22:58] <Bashing-om> lonuc/linux*
[22:58] <knob> Bashing-om, ok, yet the odd thing is I deleted the partition completely.  Killed it with gparted.   Then re-formatted ext2
[22:58] <knob> or ext3 I don't know
[22:59] <knob> So it is not windows file system anymore...
[22:59] <knob> This is so frustratiing... I can't understand wtf is up.
[23:00] <mtn> knob: what does ls -la /media/usb show?
[23:00] <Bashing-om> knob: the ext family, should workie great, I agree... so what - with a USB drive plugged in-  is in the directory /media ?
[23:01] <knob> mtn, it shows a single directory inside the usb, which was created when I formatted with gparted.   It is called lost+found
[23:01] <TJ-> knob: what's the device name (e.g. /dev/sdc1) ?
[23:01] <knob> yet the owner is root:rrot
[23:01] <knob> root:root
[23:01] <knob> Bashing-om, yet, it is in  /media/usb                 and physically in   /dev/sdb1
[23:01] <mtn> knob: how about /media/usb itself? owned by root, perhaps?
[23:02] <knob> checked, and  /media/usb is owned by  knob:knob
[23:02] <TJ-> knob: can you pastebin this output? "for n in /sys/block/sdb/sdb1/*; do [ -f $n ] && echo "$n $(cat $n)"; done | pastebinit" ?
[23:03] <knob> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7753302/
[23:06] <TJ-> knob: OK, that all looks good
[23:07] <TJ-> knob: how about "grep sdb1 /proc/mounts" ?
[23:07] <knob> That returns:    /dev/sdb1 /media/usb ext2 rw,relatime,errors=continue,user_xattr,acl 0 0
[23:08] <TJ-> knob: Ahhh... you've got ACLs enabled?
[23:09] <knob> I... I have no idea.   Apparently I do?
[23:09] <knob> What can I do?
[23:09] <knob> Tell me where he is... I am going to beat the crap out of it.
[23:10] <benzrf> yo
[23:10] <benzrf> how can i turn off sliding for workspaces
[23:10] <TJ-> knob: "facl /media/usb0 | pastebinit"
[23:10] <benzrf> so that it just jumps
[23:10] <TJ-> knob: typo! "getfacl /media/usb0 | pastebinit"
[23:11] <knob> TJ-, getfacl /media/usb0 | pastebinit
[23:11] <knob> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7753341/
[23:11] <benzrf> h-help
[23:11] <TJ-> knob: does user 'aj' look correct as the owner?
[23:12] <knob> Yeah, that is me.
[23:12] <knob> =)
[23:12] <TJ-> knob: OK, that checks out then
[23:12] <benzrf> nvm i found it
[23:13] <edition> hi. I have a problem with printer hardware, that just wont work (!)
[23:13] <edition> I tried to install the Brother driver, but it prints blank pages
[23:15] <TJ-> knob: the obvious... what does "ls -ld /media/usb" report?
[23:15] <knob> drwxrwxrwx 3 aj aj 4096 Jul  5 18:50 /media/usb
[23:15] <knob> I did chmod 777 about 10 minutes ago trying to get it to work.  No dice.
[23:16] <TJ-> knob: OK, is that file-system currently (supposed) to be empty?
[23:17] <knob> TJ-, yes... I deleted the partition and created a new one about 15 mintues ago with gparted.
[23:17] <knob> The only thing that auto-popped in there was the lost+found  directory
[23:17] <TJ-> knob: OK, that is expected.
[23:17] <knob> not mine,... I would reckon ubuntu/linux standard?
[23:17] <knob> ok
[23:17] <edition> Brother printer drivers work in windows, but not in linux.
[23:17] <edition> why?
[23:18] <ProfessorKaos64> How do I blacklist modules in 14.04 ? I used to do it like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/458611/blacklisting-nouveau-not-working-on-ubuntu-14-04
[23:18] <TJ-> knob: let's do a trace on trying to touch a file in there, then. "sudo strace -e trace=file touch /media/usb/test 2>&1 >/tmp/strace.touch.log" then "pastebinit /tmp/strace.touch.log"
[23:19] <dub54> Hi - is there anyway I can competely copy an install of unbuntu to another server? I did a load of work setting up something on a dev server and can't get it working on the new server
[23:19] <dub54> Something like how DigitalOcean lets you create a snapshot of a server and you can restore from that server?
[23:19] <dub54> snapshot*
[23:20] <jaith> i was trying to set up samhain for file integrity monitoring and it complained that /var/log is group-owned by syslog (rather than root as it used to be in 12.04). Can anyone tell me why this is the case?
[23:22] <knob> Ok, back.  Sorry TJ- , power went out locally.
[23:22] <TJ-> knob: did you miss my strace instructions?
[23:22] <knob> Yes sir... last I have is my line: knob> not mine,... I would reckon ubuntu/linux standard?
[23:23] <TJ-> knob: let's do a trace on trying to touch a file in there, then. "sudo strace -e trace=file touch /media/usb/test 2>&1 >/tmp/strace.touch.log" then "pastebinit /tmp/strace.touch.log"
[23:23] <zeroke> #dutchnano
[23:25] <knob> TJ-, hmm... the .log was created, yet it has zero size...
[23:25] <knob> should I use quotes around the first command?
[23:26] <TJ-> knob: oops! my typo. got the order of the redirects wrong."sudo strace -e trace=file touch /media/usb/test >/tmp/strace.touch.log 2>&1"
[23:27] <knob> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7753401/
[23:27] <knob> I thought it was quotes... haha... little by little I learn more =)
[23:28] <TJ-> knob: OK, so that worked correctly as root
[23:28] <knob> Ok... should I run it as... regular duderino?
[23:29] <TJ-> knob: now let's try it as your regular user... "strace -e trace=file touch /media/usb/test2 >/tmp/strace.touch.2.log 2>&1"
[23:30] <knob> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7753413/
[23:30] <TJ-> knob: that worked too ... you can write to that directory
[23:30] <knob> wtheck
[23:30] <TJ-> knob: so, what command have you been using that is failing?
[23:31] <knob> TJ-, thank you very much for your help so far!     Ok, what has been failing has been   drag-and-drop via the GUI
[23:31] <knob> I didn't think to do something via command line... sorry about that.
[23:31] <knob> And thank you for your help so far.    I feel kind of dumb now.
[23:31] <knob> Yet via drag-n-drop... not cooperating
[23:32] <edition> why doesn't Blender printer driver work with linux?
[23:32] <TJ-> knob: aha!
[23:32] <TJ-> knob: have you tried a log-out/log-in sequence?
[23:32] <knob> No... should I ?   I'll do it now?
[23:33] <modernbob> service smbd restart  <-- is wrong for ubuntu 14.04
[23:33] <NthDegree> modernbob: service samba restart? :|
[23:33] <NthDegree> modernbob: either that or omit the d
[23:35] <knob> TJ-, I logged out... in... and now it's working via the GUI  with drag-n-drop
[23:35] <knob> amazing
[23:35] <knob> What gives?   A bug?
[23:35] <modernbob> NthDegree: thanks..not sure samba is running
[23:36] <NthDegree> modernbob: `netstat -anp` as root (sans quotes)
[23:36] <TJ-> knob: did you add your user to new groups or similar?
[23:36] <NthDegree> modernbob: may need to do: netstat -anp | less
[23:36] <knob> Hmm... well, not within this session.
[23:36] <NthDegree> modernbob: it will show you if port 445 is open and samba is running ;-p
[23:37] <TJ-> knob: I suspect though, the most likely cause, is that the GVFS (virtual file system) didn't spot the changes you made to the mount point
[23:37] <knob> Actually TJ-, I did all the mount/umount, via  sudo su    and as root
[23:37] <TJ-> knob: at least you're sorted !
[23:37] <knob> Dude, I am golden.   Thank you very much sir.  =)     Thank you!
[23:38] <modernbob> NthDegree: no smbd
[23:43] <[1]hypergrove> i am seeing a problem with my config. I need php 5.4.28 to run on this system, so I am making it. I am following directions http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHP-FPM which caused me to configure with --enable-fpm.  However, I do not see a binary called /etc/php-fpm, rather I find it in /usr/local/sbin ... should I move this to /etc or /etc/init.d?
[23:43] <NthDegree> modernbob: is samba-server installed? :|
[23:45] <[1]hypergrove> when i do service --status-all, I do not see php-fpm in the list, though I know its running because when I start it manually just now, it tells me it is already running
[23:48] <edition> I can't get Brother printer driver to work...
[23:50] <edition> tried to use the CUPS driver, but still getting blank pages.
[23:51] <modernbob> samba refuses to start
[23:51] <edition> printer driver fails to work
[23:51] <raspberrypifan> modernbob: have you tried bossa nova instead
[23:51] <modernbob> raspberrypifan: never heard of it
[23:52] <raspberrypifan> jeje sorry