[12:31] <aroth> Hello everybody!
[12:31] <aroth> I have a question: Is there a way to find out if a PC has been started by the power button or an wake on lan request?
[14:52] <kimus> hi, I need some help building a module
[14:52] <kimus> compiled a rtl8187 module but it does not load on the kernel. I think the problem is a version missmatch
[14:54] <kimus> I tried linux-source package and build module source with make -c /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build modules and does not load either
[17:40] <emgent> hello
[18:51] <kimus> can anyone help me compiling a single module? I can compile the module but gives an error on insmod
[19:34] <Shanix_> kimus, what error ?
[19:34] <Shanix_> kimus, you should go to #ubuntu
[20:07] <kimus> Shanix_: should go to #ubuntu ?!?!
[20:08] <kimus> isn't this the right channel to ask for help on kernel / module building?
[20:09] <CarlFK> kimus: /topic "kernel development "
[20:10] <kimus> sorry, for me kernel development is module related
[20:12] <CarlFK> no problem.
[20:32] <kimus> couldn't anyone help? it's kernel related... please :-)
[20:33] <kimus> #ubuntu is full of people asking stuff
[20:33] <alex_joni> kimus: if you expect any help, then at least put the error in a pastebin somewhere
[20:34] <kimus> errors i'm getting > "insmod: error inserting 'rtl8187.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module", and dmesg gives more > "rtl8187: Unknown symbol
[20:34] <kimus> so I'm guessing that source != from current kernel
[20:36] <kimus> alex_joni: any hint?
[20:37] <alex_joni> kimus: if you expect any help, then at least put the _whole_ error in a pastebin somewhere, including parts from dmesg which are relevant
[20:38] <kimus> humm... paste wrong here :-)
[20:38] <kimus> I will put in a pastebin
[20:42] <kimus> alex_joni: http://paste.ubuntu.com/69742/
[20:47] <alex_joni> try modprobe
[20:49] <kimus> modprobe? how can I modprobe from the module I just compiled?
[20:52] <johanbr> Put it in the subdirectory of /lib/modules/ that goes with your kernel, run "sudo depmod -a" and then modprobe.
[20:54] <kimus> humm that worked
[20:54] <kimus> insmod should work :-S
[20:56] <johanbr> insmod does not take module dependencies into account
[20:57] <kimus> stupid error... ok thank you. i had to build this module because it lacks an device id
[20:57] <alex_joni> kimus: lsmod | grep for your module, look at the deps
[20:57] <alex_joni> then you can load them by hand, and use insmod
[20:58] <alex_joni> but modprobe is usually easier
[20:58] <kimus> oh... was only that? I had to modprobe for the deps before insmod ?
[21:03] <CarlFK> kimus: or load the deps
[21:03] <alex_joni> kimus: either you use modprobe (and it pulls in the deps), or you install the modules by hand, then you can use insmod with the new module
[21:03] <kimus> i get it... next time :-)
[21:04] <kimus> you should update wubuntu wiki, there's no info on building a single module
[21:04] <alex_joni> if it's a wiki page you read, then you can improve it yourself
[21:05] <alex_joni> that's the whole point of the wiki, for people to give back to ubuntu (in a simple way)
[21:05] <kimus> sure... I can put there how to build and the insmod error :-D
[21:06] <alex_joni> kimus: make sure the missing device id is fixed upstream or in a later kernel version
[21:06] <kimus> is fixed on upstream
[21:06] <CarlFK> alex_joni: as long as you are .. here... :)  Do you have an x64 that you don't mind panicing?  I was asked if a bug crashed it too, and am getting anoyed trying to setup a VM to try it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/294951
[21:07] <kimus> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11728
[21:07] <alex_joni> CarlFK: you might mistaken me for a kernel dev :)
[21:07] <alex_joni> no x64 install atm, nly i386 hardy
[21:07] <CarlFK> rats.
[21:08] <CarlFK> back to qemu...
[21:08] <alex_joni> CarlFK: sorry :/
[21:08] <CarlFK> wana pannic your i386? :)
[21:08]  * alex_joni should note he's not running -generic
[21:08] <alex_joni> but yeah, if it helps..
[21:08] <CarlFK> I doubt there is anything to gain... so probably not much point
[21:08] <CarlFK> na
[21:09] <alex_joni> I panic and oops it all the time, so it's used :P
[21:09] <alex_joni> all the time might be an exageration though :D
[21:35] <kimus> ok thanx
[21:36] <kimus> bye


[11:19] <jamespage> cpaelzer: +1 on demoting that recommends to a suggestes for cherrypy3
[11:20] <jamespage> I'd hope we can get that back into Debian as well but this type of Ubuntu delta seems to not always get accepted
[11:20] <jamespage> and thanks for the upload to fix
[11:43] <cpaelzer> jamespage: np, I also filed it with Debian already to think about it in their context as well
[11:43] <cpaelzer> I think it also hurts Debian
[11:43] <jamespage> its def a surplus depends for normal operation use that pulls in lots of stuff
[11:43] <cpaelzer> I just waited for the bug to be recognized by the BTS
[11:44] <cpaelzer> it is like 320MB more dependencies including parts of the GTK stack
[11:44] <cpaelzer> now that it exists https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1060041
[11:44] -ubottu:#ubuntu-server- Debian bug 1060041 in cherrypy3 "Is the python3-objgraph dependency too much" [Normal, Open]
[12:06] <athos> cpaelzer: I am not sure if you saw the debian-devel email regarding mdevctl. I just tried a build replacing udev and systemd B-Ds with systemd-dev and the resulting binary package is the same (we can replace those). I can file a MR in salsa once you push your latest HEAD there (for 1.2.0-6 we just released).
[12:15] <cpaelzer> athos:  I did not
[12:16] <cpaelzer> athos: I think I did push git yesterday, let me check
[12:16] <cpaelzer> athos: haha, had used --dry-run :-)
[12:16] <cpaelzer> athos: done now
[12:16] <cpaelzer> athos:  and please for that feel free to use your uploader permissions, that should work now right?
[12:29] <athos> cpaelzer: well, I am listed in the uploaders, but I do not have permissions in salsa (https://salsa.debian.org/debian/mdevctl/-/project_members?search=athos) nor actual upload rights to the package (https://ftp-master.debian.org/dm.txt)
[12:30] <cpaelzer> athos: I can fix the salsa situation
[12:30] <cpaelzer> athos: you should have an invite
[12:32] <athos> Thanks :)


[04:11] <youngbin_> Hello, I'm thinking about joining COSCUP this july and setup another booth. Basically extend existing Ubuntu Taiwan folk's booth to promote both their LoCo, UbuCon Asia and more. I'm already talking to RJ(TW), Khairul(MY), Yudhi(ID) and few more folks. - And I would like to ask if community team folks would be also intrested :)


[11:14] <bluesabre> Unit193: I feel like you've mentioned magnet links before... https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-website/issues/27
[11:15] <Unit193> If we put them on the site, they're just going to become outdated like the torrent links, except once we get the theme updated that'll at least be nicer.
[11:15] <Unit193> That's...not a very useful issue..
[12:31] <Unit193> bluesabre: Are you asking for the hashes?
[22:23] <bluesabre> Unit193: nope, didn't know if it was just something that was easy to add (or already existed in some form)
[22:23] <Unit193> Yes they exist, a magnet is just BTIH and preferrably a tracker.
[22:24] <Unit193> Bittorrent info hash


[03:05] <Unit193> krytarik, bluesabre: Can I just discard two messages to -devel?  They don't seem correct for the list, and certainly the subject is wrong: https://paste.unit193.net/?876c4a50e9f473f0#T3WPipVhhp39cUZj9tB2vDv99Y3KssVixxKu6xmAbfQ=
[03:12] <bluesabre> Do it!
[03:13] <Unit193> I mean in theory it'd be good to reply, but I don't intend to so I doubt... :3
[03:14] <Unit193> bluesabre: FWIW, once there's something that looks like xfwm4 ported to wayland, I intend to try my hand at packaging all wayland capable components and turning it into an ISO just for testing purposes. :3
[03:14] <Unit193> "How does this work on your hardware?  File bugs!" type of deal.
[03:18] <bluesabre> I like it!
[03:19] <bluesabre> It's pretty wild how quickly Wayland is moving along in Xfce now. Glad some motivated folks got it rolling.
[03:20] <Unit193> Ummm...There's a catch, though. :3
[03:28] <Unit193> Ah right, should finish that.  SO a couple problems: 1. I know ziltch about Wayland.  2. This includes not knowing how the heck to run /etc/xdg/autostart/ on startup, so xfdesktop, etc.  3. It's...shall we say easier for me to produce ISOs not Ubuntu based. :3
[06:45] <Unit193> xfce4-docklike-plugin 0.4.1-0ppa1 is now in the extras repo.
[06:45] <Unit193> PPA/


[00:00] <drubin> ZachK_: Don't do that.
[00:00] <drubin> don't tell people you aren't talk about stuff in here and then talk about it your self.
[00:02] <buzzard> I'm hoping that the simplicity of Ubuntu will convert her
[00:03] <ZachK_> buzzard: ah i think so but i'm not sure...let me look
[00:04] <buzzard> ZachK_: thanks, I looked at the "Login Screen" choices but I'm not having any luck so far.
[00:04] <ZachK_> ok
[00:05] <ZachK_> Really why don't you just make a account that is basic (for here) and set That to auto login
[00:08] <ZachK_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin
[00:08] <buzzard> probably the best idea; I'm new to linux and acct management and havent set up many accounts before. As a short cut is there any way I can copy the privileges of the Guest Acct when I create a new one
[00:09] <ZachK_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PasswordlessGuestAccount
[00:09] <buzzard> sounds like just what I was looking for
[00:11] <buzzard> I think that will work
[00:12] <ZachK_> cool
[00:12] <buzzard> thanks, ZackK_
[00:12] <ZachK_> no prob
[00:12] <ZachK_> come back and let us know how it works out
[00:12] <buzzard> i will
[00:38] <phillw> ZachK_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PasswordlessGuestAccount is a pretty kewl How To, well found :)
[02:51] <goodtime_> im  a beginner'
[02:51] <paultag> goodtime_, :)
[02:51] <goodtime_> not to irc though
[02:51] <goodtime_> just linux
[02:51] <goodtime_> ty paultag:)
[02:53] <pedro3005> hello goodtime_. are you enjoying Linux?
[02:53] <goodtime_> yes
[02:53] <goodtime_> i love it
[02:53] <goodtime_> its not windows
[02:53] <pedro3005> glad to hear
[02:55] <pedro3005> any questions or troubles?
[02:55] <goodtime_> the apps are cool too
[02:55] <goodtime_> well yes
[02:55] <goodtime_> i need to hack my modem
[02:55] <goodtime_> or reinstall
[02:56] <pedro3005> you need to get it working?
[02:56] <goodtime_> im supossed to get 12mbs downoads and i only get like 2mbs
[02:56] <pedro3005> and that issue doesn't happen on Windows?
[02:56] <Chesamo> well, goodtime_ you should probably talk to your ISP about that >_>
[02:57] <goodtime_> and ssh dont work there are some packages missing or broken
[02:57] <Chesamo> goodtime_ sudo aptitude -f install should fix that right ip
[02:57] <Chesamo> up*
[02:57] <goodtime_> my isp heard
[02:57] <goodtime_> ok
[02:57] <pedro3005> don't be so quick Chesamo
[02:58] <pedro3005> if the internet speed is normal on Windows, it could be a Linux issue
[02:58] <Chesamo> pedro3005 Well, I don't really have that information, so I gues I can't make that call yet. Still, an odd thing to happen.
[02:58] <pedro3005> yes, definitely
[02:58] <Chesamo> guess*
[02:59] <goodtime_> wow i think that worked ill try to install ssh now
[03:00] <Chesamo> goodtime_ That's always a good command to have in your arsenal, just in case.
[03:00] <goodtime_> Depends: openssh-server but it is not going to be installed
[03:00] <goodtime_> crap
[03:00] <Chesamo> goodtime_ Really? I didn't think it did. Well, try sudo aptitude install openssh-server then
[03:01] <goodtime_> ok
[03:03] <goodtime_> worked like a charm
[03:03] <goodtime_> ty :)
[03:07] <goodtime_> i think i might need to reboot
[03:08] <goodtime_> i dont see ssh anywere lol
[03:08] <Chesamo> goodtime_ It's a terminal command, not a graphical program
[03:08] <paultag> goodtime_, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[03:09] <goodtime_> lol
[03:09] <paultag> goodtime_, then test it
[03:09] <paultag> goodtime_, ssh localhost
[03:09] <goodtime_> ok
[03:11] <goodtime_> sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found
[03:11] <paultag> goodtime_, OK. Did you install the ssh server?
[03:11] <paultag> Ahhh
[03:11] <goodtime_> yes
[03:11] <paultag> goodtime_, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[03:11] <paultag> my fault
[03:11] <paultag> it was renamed
[03:12] <goodtime_> * Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd                           [ OK ]
[03:12] <paultag> good
[03:12] <paultag> goodtime_, ssh localhost
[03:13] <goodtime_> Warning: Permanently added 'localhost' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
[03:13] <goodtime_> root@localhost's password:
[03:13] <goodtime_> Permission denied, please try again.
[03:13] <goodtime_> root@localhost's password:
[03:13] <goodtime_> sorry for the flood
[03:13] <Chesamo> goodtime: don't try root.
[03:13] <goodtime_> oic ok
[03:13] <Chesamo> goodtime_: Ubuntu's root account is locked out
[03:13] <paultag> goodtime_, you should not be logged in as root either!
[03:13] <paultag> goodtime_, did you sudo su ?
[03:13] <paultag> goodtime_, don
[03:13] <paultag> goodtime_, don't do that ;)
[03:14] <goodtime_> ok
[03:14] <goodtime_> its running i guess
[03:15] <goodtime_> my password worked that time
[03:16] <goodtime_> wasnt like crushing shards of glass into my temple either
[03:17] <Chesamo> goodtime_: G-generally working with Ubuntu isn't like crushing shards of glass into your temple o_O
[03:20] <goodtime_> :)
[06:58] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone know how to make ubuntu's theme manager under appearance actually save fonts with the themes?
[09:49] <switchgirl> bbc news 24 cameron is about to speak if interested - doubt it but meh...
[09:54] <duanedesign> :)
[11:37] <aluex> hi,i met a problem while upgrading my ubuntu
[11:38] <aluex> Could not calculate the upgrade
[12:03] <duanedesign> aluex: that is the error?
[12:04] <aluex> i dont know
[12:04] <aluex> i m now asking it in #ubuntu-1
[12:05] <aluex> not #ubuntu-1 but #ubuntu+1
[12:05] <duanedesign> aluex: /17
[12:05] <duanedesign> oops
[12:05] <aluex> sorry :)
[12:05] <duanedesign> aluex: ahh, you are upgrading to Maverick
[12:06] <aluex> yes
[12:15] <duanedesign> do you have a file in /var/log/dist-upgrade called apt.log
[12:15] <duanedesign> aluex: ^
[12:16] <aluex> oh
[12:16] <aluex> let me see..
[12:17] <duanedesign> aluex: it might provide a clue as to what packages are giving you problems
[12:17] <aluex> yes,these it
[12:17] <aluex> there is
[12:18] <duanedesign> can you paste it? at least the last bit of it
[12:18] <aluex> ok.
[12:19] <aluex> http://pastebin.com/AJiTXGkr
[12:22] <duanedesign> aluex: hmm. well at least we know it is because of the package linux-image-generic
[12:24] <aluex> oh,but...then?
[12:28] <duanedesign> aluex: not positive. Might show that to the folks in ubuntu+1
[12:29] <aluex> oh.i see. thank you. :)
[12:46] <aluex> i've decided not to upgrade.
[12:46] <aluex> and how to change the background of grub?
[12:50] <duanedesign> aluex: i have a nice guide on grub2
[12:51] <bobo123> with an simple "mount -r /dev/sda1 /media/C" ubuntu should probably find out by itself that it is an ntfs-partition, right?
[12:51] <duanedesign> aluex:    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[12:51] <bobo123> (and mount it readonly instead of normally reawrite), should I run that with sudo?
[12:55] <aluex> oh
[12:56] <duanedesign> bobo123:  If  no  -t  option  is  given it will guess ti the filetype
[12:57] <bobo123> ok
[12:57] <insanity99> hey, is there an easy way to close full screen apps? i normally have to press alt-F1 and type top. top is a pain because it keeps moving the list every couple of seconds
[12:57] <bobo123> alt-f4 should work....
[12:57] <insanity99> ctr-alt F1 i mean
[12:58] <bobo123> and wellbehaved applications should allow you to open the windows systemmenu with alt-space
[12:58] <insanity99> alt-F4 wont work
[12:59] <duanedesign> bobo123: Ubuntu 10.04 should detect all windows partitions automatically on the boot
[12:59] <bobo123> duanedesign: yeah, I want it the same was as the automatic detection, but read-only instead. what is the easiets way to do that?
[13:01] <insanity99> can i filter 'top'? like search the full screen app i want to close?
[13:02] <bobo123> insanity99: you can write  top -n 1 if you want top to just prints its list and exit instead of updating each second
[13:03] <duanedesign> insanity99: System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcut should have a toggle Fullscreen
[13:03] <duanedesign> insanity99: i like htop, it is much better than top
[13:04] <insanity99> thanks
[13:06] <insanity99> Htop works great
[13:12] <insanity99> does anyone know how to fix screen tearing while watching videos? i use an ATI radeon HD4870 and its horrible
[13:24] <bobo123> insanity99: I assume you are running flash-videos?
[13:24] <edlik> I am doing a fresh install of 9.10, this time I want to put home on its own partition, is this best done through Gparted after install?
[13:24] <phillw> insanity99: you may want to have a look at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide even though for Jaunty, it has been kept updated
[13:24] <bobo123> I've read somewhere there can be problem with cpu-energy-saving while playing flash.. don't know if that still aplies though
[13:25] <phillw> edlik: if you're doing a fresh install, make the /home area manually when you start the install (you'll make to manually make the sawp as well)
[13:25] <phillw> *swap*
[13:29] <duanedesign> edlik: yes when you get to the part of the install where it asks if you want to automatically or manually partition, do it manually.
[13:30] <phillw> edlik: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installseparatehome  explains it for you
[13:32] <goodtime_> anybody here
[13:32] <insanity99> yea
[13:33] <phillw> yup
[13:33] <goodtime_> know any reason why when i goto set my graffics it does nothing
[13:33] <goodtime_> in apperances
[13:34] <duanedesign> goodtime_: you mean 'visual effects'?
[13:34] <goodtime_> yes
[13:34] <goodtime_> ty yes
[13:34] <duanedesign> goodtime_: do you get an error message?
[13:34] <goodtime_> uh nope
[13:35] <insanity99> do you have graphics drivers installed?
[13:35] <goodtime_> just does nothing and its like i never set it ,nothing is selected once again when i restart apperances
[13:36] <goodtime_> im searching now
[13:36] <insanity99> do you use http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php
[13:36] <insanity99> ?
[13:37] <goodtime_> its installing i must have forgot lol
[13:37] <duanedesign> if i make changes via Compiz Config Stting Manager it causes all the options under Appearance > Visual Effects to not be selected
[13:37] <insanity99> lol
[13:38]  * aluex wonders why his DSL doesn't work
[13:38] <goodtime_> time to reboot brb
[13:38] <insanity99> kk
[13:41] <goodtime_> worked
[13:41] <insanity99> gratz
[13:42] <goodtime_> ty
[13:43] <goodtime_> i swear i did that already but who knows maybe i didnt
[13:43] <phillw> goodtime_:  let's look at the evidence :p
[13:43] <goodtime_> lol:)
[13:44]  * phillw has the 'T' shirt for that sort of thing :-D
[13:45]  * aluex really wants to know what happened to his DSL connection
[13:46] <insanity99> how do i know how big a file is on the software centre?
[13:48] <insanity99> is there a way at all>
[13:48] <insanity99> ?*
[13:58] <aluex> Why my DSL connection doesn't work..
[14:12] <bobo123> aluex: your dsl modem is probably just unhappy. it is monday afterall.
[14:35] <randomguy> Hi, not sure if this is the right place to ask, but if I want to build an ubuntu package (.deb) for multiple distributions hardy/karmic/lucid, how do I compile them on the go with dpkg-buildpackage from the same script? what is required for cross-distribution compiling?
[14:52] <stevek> hi , i had a separate /home partition , i installed ubuntu and used the old /home partition , but gdm doesn't show my old username in login screen , though i can successfully login, i want to enable auto-login but it seems login manager window also doesn't show my username.How can i fix it? in the list
[14:53] <stevek> its basically gdm doesnt recognize my old user account...how can i fix it , plz help..
[14:57] <goodtime_> idk man sorry
[15:00] <hobgoblin> stevek: did you use  the same name?
[15:02] <stevek> i can login using old username
[15:02] <stevek> but i have to type it manually
[15:02] <stevek> it doesn't show up automatically
[15:02] <stevek> like new user names
[15:03] <hobgoblin> can you access the old /home ?
[15:03] <stevek> wut i need is that my old user name should also come up automatically in the list
[15:04] <hobgoblin> if your old user is not in the list - add in Sys - ADmin - Users and groups
[15:04] <stevek> it's already added there
[15:04] <stevek> wid same name
[15:04] <goodtime_> couldnt you just add a new user as the old name
[15:04] <stevek> ya i added that , still dowsn't show up
[15:05] <goodtime_> hmm
[15:05] <stevek> but other new usernames show up
[15:05] <stevek> is it becoz other details might be different
[15:05] <stevek> or should i try to delete the old username and readd it in users list??
[15:06] <stevek> from another user account??
[15:07] <stevek> can i simply create a new username (different from old user name) and rename the /home/olduser to /home/newuser?
[15:07] <stevek> do i need to reset permissions or sumthing?
[15:07] <Chesamo> stevek: Is there any data in the old user's /home dir that you need?
[15:07] <stevek> y
[15:07] <stevek> ya
[15:08] <stevek> the config files
[15:08] <stevek> can i then simply copy all the data to new username
[15:08] <stevek> and what abt permissions?
[15:08] <goodtime_> i think so
[15:08] <Chesamo> stevek: sudo cp /home/username/.* ~/backup
[15:08] <Chesamo> then delete and recreate the user
[15:08] <goodtime_> yeah what Chesamo said
[15:09] <Chesamo> then sudo cp ~/backup /home/username
[15:09] <stevek> ok
[15:09] <stevek> thanks
[15:09] <goodtime_> good luck
[15:09] <Chesamo> stevek hang on a second, I gotta check something
[15:10] <geirha> That won't get all files
[15:10] <Chesamo> yeah I realized
[15:10] <hobgoblin> you could do it in nautilus - gksudo nautilus - then you know you're not overwriting things you might need
[15:10] <geirha> I'd use pax/tar/cpio/rsync
[15:10] <stevek> rsync preserves permissions, so it will be better i suppose?
[15:11] <randomguy> any help on if I want to build an ubuntu package (.deb) for multiple distributions                  ▒│|ChanServ      ▒││   ~ KinnuneZ        ▒│
[15:11] <geirha> All of the above preserves permissions. Use whichever you are most familiar with ;)
[15:11] <goodtime_> this is a good support channel
[15:11] <stevek> k
[15:11] <goodtime_> i ask eslewere and i dont get squat
[15:12] <goodtime_> well sometime i get but this has been great so far
[15:13] <goodtime_> i talked to my isp
[15:13] <goodtime_> im should be getting 12mbs but its only one
[15:14] <goodtime_> there gonna do something i guess id rather fix my modem thoe
[15:15] <goodtime_> all as i know is i might need to reinstall
[15:17] <goodtime_> how would i tweek a modem
[15:17] <goodtime_> is there some softwear
[16:33] <mohi2911> hiya guys. Am back after a week of free software class =]
[16:37] <Chesamo> nifty
[16:38] <mohi2911> hiya Chesamo
[16:39] <Chesamo> Hello mohi2911
[16:39] <mohi2911> Chesamo, dont say shahan i am here :D
[16:40] <mohi2911> Chesamo, you prefer any graphics tools for ubuntu??
[16:40] <Chesamo> mohi2911: you mean something like the GIMP?
[16:40] <shahan> I have installed a software in WINE. But I want to remove this software from the WINE. its not removing
[16:40] <shahan> I tried going to Wine>Uninstall Wine Software
[16:40] <mohi2911> well i was asking applications similar to compiz
[16:41] <Chesamo> mohi2911: You mean the graphical environment?
[16:41] <mohi2911> yep
[16:42] <Chesamo> shahan: Have you tried navigating to the program's folder (~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files) and running the uninstaller manually?
[16:42] <Chesamo> mohi2911: I use GNOME with Metacity/Compiz, which is the default for Ubuntu
[16:43] <mohi2911> well i got this
[16:43] <mohi2911> WARNING: Application calling GLX 1.3 function "glXCreatePixmap" when GLX 1.3 is not supported!  This is an application bug!
[16:43] <mohi2911> WARNING: Application calling GLX 1.3 function "glXDestroyPixmap" when GLX 1.3 is not supported!  This is an application bug!
[16:43] <mohi2911> and i cant surf about it today coz its dead :(
[16:43] <shahan> Chesamo: yes
[16:43] <shahan> Chesamo: there has no uninstall option
[16:44] <Chesamo> shahan: It's usually (key word: usually) safe to simply delete the program folder.
[16:44] <Chesamo> shahan: Just make sure you tie up the loose ends. Like launchers, etc
[16:44] <shahan> Chesamo: I have removed the folder from that location(the location you have mentioned). Now want to remove the name from Wine>Programs list..
[16:44] <Chesamo> shahan: I don't think that's possible.
[16:45] <Chesamo> shahan: You were in here before, weren't you? Asking the same question
[16:45] <Chesamo> mohi2911: Disable compiz
[16:45] <shahan> Chesamo: ya... I got a solution about that before... but now forget...
[16:46] <mohi2911> Chesamo, as you say =]
[16:47] <Chesamo> shahan: I don't recall there being a solution, but if you remember when it was the public logs for this channel are available at http://irc.logs.ubuntu.com/
[16:47] <Chesamo> whoops, I mean http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[16:47] <shahan> Chesamo: :(
[16:51] <shahan> Chesamo: I forget the date
[16:52] <Chesamo> shahan: I found when you were here last (April) and I'm searching the logs now
[16:53] <shahan> Chesamo: ok....
[16:59] <houmqller> Hello, i am a Linux noob. for some days i used linux 10.04 LC on my computer, i felt joy about the OS and now i want it on 100% of my harrd disc. they way i installed LC in the first place was by installing 9.10 and upgrading. this time i can't install 9.10 or 10.04, but i can install 9.04, but when i upgrade, i can't boot afterwards. I don't know why, and i have tryed safe grafic and acpi=off, things google told me, may
[16:59] <houmqller> be worked.
[17:00] <Chesamo> homqller: What do you mean by "LC"?
[17:00] <Chesamo> *houmqller: What do you mean by "LC"?
[17:02] <Chesamo> shahan: Here's the first mention of it, but no solution was found
[17:02] <Chesamo> shahan: whoops, forgot the URL http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/05/12/%23ubuntu-beginners.html
[17:04] <Chesamo> shahan: I also see you had an issue with remastersys, did that get resolved? I've since started using remastersys and I know what the /etc/skel directory is.
[17:05] <houmqller> LC = lucid lynx
[17:05] <Chesamo> houmqller: We generally just say "Lucid". "LC" makes it sound like it's a special derivative or something.
[17:06] <houmqller> ahh okay, sorry, i can't follow your link :(
[17:06] <Chesamo> houmqller: It was a link for someone else.
[17:07] <houmqller> ahh okay..
[17:07] <Chesamo> houmqller: Why is it impossible to install 10.04 direct?
[17:07] <houmqller> i now tryed to format all the hard drive to ext4, but when i press install ubuntu in 10.04 or 9.10 it stilll freeze
[17:08] <Chesamo> homqller: Have you tried the alternate install CD?
[17:08] <phillw> houmqller: how much RAM does your computer have?
[17:08] <houmqller> my computer have 2 gb ram and had 10.04 before
[17:08] <houmqller> i haven't tried any alternative cd?
[17:09] <Chesamo> homqller: Where are you located?
[17:09] <phillw> hmm, that's certainly more than enough, have you checked the cd has burned okay?
[17:10] <houmqller> i am located in denmark xD and i checked every version i burned down
[17:10] <houmqller> cd*
[17:10] <phillw> houmqller: doest
[17:10] <phillw>  does the 'test the cd' report back itis okay?
[17:10] <Chesamo> houmqller: http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/ubuntu-cd/10.04/ You can get the Alternate CD from here.
[17:10] <houmqller> yes the cd schould be ok
[17:10] <houmqller> ty chesamo i am allready downloading it ;)
[17:11] <phillw> houmqller: not *should* more important *is* it okay ?
[17:11] <houmqller> when i test the cd, it tells me about no errors
[17:11] <mohi2911> houmqller, you tried test cd as phillw pointed??
[17:12] <mohi2911> hmmmm you downloaded it from our official site right??
[17:12] <phillw> are you using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck
[17:13] <houmqller> yes i did, and i downloaded from the official site, but the strange thing is that i can't install with the exact same cd as i installed on a minor partition yesterday
[17:13] <phillw> houmqller: are you doing a clean installation?
[17:13] <phillw> as in 'wipe the hard disk and start again'?
[17:13] <houmqller> yes i am doing a clean installation
[17:14] <mohi2911> houmqller, minor partition = 10 GB??
[17:14] <houmqller> minor like 60
[17:14] <mohi2911> and now you are formatting the entire disk??
[17:14] <phillw> will the cd boot as a 'live CD'?
[17:15] <houmqller> after i tryed ubuntu on a minor partition, i formatted all my harddisk to ext4 with the live cd ubuntu 9.04 and no the live cd don't work.
[17:15] <phillw> If previous cd's are not working, I'd suggest getting a cd lens cleaner and clean the drive
[17:15] <houmqller> only cd's who works is form version 9.04 and down
[17:16] <houmqller> from*
[17:16] <mohi2911> brb in mins
[17:17] <houmqller> the computer do read 8.04 and 9.04 , i can both install and use live. but the new freeze after i try to do the live session or try to install
[17:19] <phillw> hmm, I'd still suggest cleaning the cd drive lens. else either try alternate install or use a minimal iso to just put the basic ubuntu on and add the desktop part afterwards using the internet.
[17:20] <houmqller> i can remember something about, last time i installed 9.10 a guy gave me a command line, to "cheat" the system, to believe my computer got another grafic card but can't remeber how. and i will try to clean it now
[17:21] <phillw> ahh, you did not say about a graphic card error - just use the alternate installation cd
[17:21] <houmqller> it don't call anything like that, but just remember what some guy learned me last time. i will use the alternative then..
[17:21] <houmqller> ty guys :D
[17:50] <phillw> hmm, all the items listed under 'Applications' have gone, Places and Systems still have their entries. I've had the OP run an fsck from LiveCD and it reports no errors. Any ideas anyone?
[17:51] <Chesamo> Oh, phillw, I know this........
[17:51] <Chesamo> phillw Give me a second to remember
[17:52] <phillw> thanks Chesamo I cannot find it via google
[17:52] <Chesamo> phillw have him check ~/.config/menus, specifically applications.menu
[17:53] <phillw> check it for what, he's a n00b and i will have to talk him through every command
[17:54] <Chesamo> phillw Make sure 1. it exists and 2. all of the entries are not enclosed by <Exclude></Exclude> tags (it's an XML file)
[17:54] <phillw> how the heck would that occur?
[17:55] <Chesamo> phillw Bug?
[17:56] <phillw> ooooh,bad bug :-(
[17:56] <phillw> let me fone him and see
[18:00] <phillw> the applicatin.menu file does not exist :-(
[18:00] <phillw> *application.menu*
[18:00] <Chesamo> phillw Oh dear :D
[18:00] <Chesamo> erm
[18:00] <Chesamo> D:*
[18:01] <Chesamo> phillw Have him check and see if it's in the Trash?
[18:01] <phillw> he says there was nothing in the trash earlier
[18:02] <Chesamo> phillw alternately I guess I could real quick build a new system and give him the default application.menu
[18:03] <phillw> hmm, we've added apps to the system
[18:03] <Chesamo> phillw He can add those with the System > Prefs > Main Menu app
[18:04] <Chesamo> phillw Does he have a settings.menu?
[18:05] <phillw> Yeah, he said he had System & places working okay
[18:05] <Chesamo> phillw Okay. I'll get my system up and toss the default application.menu your way
[18:06] <bobo123> what can be the problem when I try to copy a file (from an ntfs partition to my linux partition) and gets the error message "Value too large for defined data type" ?
[18:06] <Chesamo> bobo123: What kind of file is it?
[18:07] <phillw> Chesamo: this is mine http://pastebin.com/bV4eYmpZ
[18:08] <bobo123> it is an normal exe-file  "/tmp/C/WINDOWS/$NtUninstallKB823182$/spuninst/spuninst.exe" that is 100kB (the full message is "Error splicing file: Value too large for defined data type")
[18:08] <Chesamo> oh, phillw! That's exactly what you want :D
[18:09] <phillw> kk, now to get to get to him, this should be fun ;-)
[18:09] <Chesamo> phillw "Now listen very carefully..."
[18:10]  * phillw boot into the livecd so you have email access :-D
[18:10] <phillw> although I can just issue 'firefox' from cli ;-)
[18:12] <Chesamo> phillw but how do you get to the cli if there's no Applications menu :o
[18:19] <bobo123> the other files in the same directory is no problem to copy but the spuninst.exe gives this strange error. On a webpage I read that  "is a system error  message reported when an operation on a large file is attempted using a  non-large file data type. Large files are defined as anything larger  than a signed 32-bit integer, or stated differently, larger than 2GB." but my file is only 100864 bytes long :-(
[18:20] <Chesamo> bobo123 Have you trued using the cp command instead of dragging through Nautilus?
[18:20] <phillw> indeed, but i've booted the live cd,which should have the missing file :-)
[18:20] <bobo123> yes. same error when I use the command cp /tmp/C/WINDOWS/\$NtUninstallKB823182\$/spuninst/spuninst.exe .
[18:21] <Chesamo> bobo123: Also you don't need that file... the $ntUninstall directories are temp files for installing Windows patches.
[18:22] <bobo123> yeah I guess so... its supposed to be some old update from 2003 I guess (if one can trust ms) but it is strange that it can't copy it
[18:33] <Izinucs> !grub2
[18:33] <ubot2> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[19:04] <bobo123> ok noone have ideas why I can't copy the file then. I guess NTFS is a bad filesystem. bad karma. :-/
[20:03] <nhandler> Hmm...Any ideas why my laptop and desktop are no longer able to communicate? I keep getting 'No route to host' errors. They should both be on the same network
[20:05] <acerimmer_> nhandler: some kind of network config.  take the question to #ubuntu
[20:07] <lazybug> Hello! I need some help i use the terminal to delete a file with: "sudo rm/..." the answer is  "rm: cannot remove `/home/name/new_folder': Is a directory"
[20:10] <nhandler> acerimmer_: I don't think it is on the network end of this. Nothing has changed there. My guess would be a local firewall issue since I installed (and purged) gufw a few days ago to test something.
[20:15] <iceflatline> lazybug: are you trying to delete a file in that directory or the directory itself?
[20:17] <nhandler> lazybug: To remove a directory using rm, use the -r option: i.e. rm -r /path/to/directory
[20:17] <lazybug> iceflatline: i created the file on my desktop i'm able to use the mouse to delete the file but i try to use the terminal more often
[20:19] <lazybug> i wasn't aware that i created a file in the directory the command i used is: "sudo mkdir /home/name/Desktop/new_folder
[20:20] <lazybug> sorry just realized the mkdir should have gave me the indication of the directory
[20:20] <acerimmer_> lazybug: pretty sure the directory must be empty prior to deleting it...
[20:20] <acerimmer_> lazybug: including any hidden files
[20:20] <iceflatline> lazybug: cli is good!  As nhandler indicated, use the -r argument to remove a dir, leave it out to remove a file in a directory
[20:21]  * bobo123 wants a graphically enhanced cli ;-)
[20:21] <iceflatline> no, trust me, you can delete the dir w/ contents
[20:21] <iceflatline> I learned the hard way
[20:21] <acerimmer_> :)
[20:22] <iceflatline> if you're not root though, it should prompt you.
[20:24] <bobo123> if the directory is stubborn and won't let you delete it sudo and the parameter -f should do it, remember to check and extracheck that it is the right directoy you are trying to delete. because you can potentially delete your whole os that way
[20:29] <lazybug> sorry you flooding me with information i'm still a newbie when using "sudo rm -r /..." the answer is "rm: cannot remove `/home/name/new_folder_to_be_deleted': No such file or directory
[20:31] <nhandler> lazybug: What is the actual folder? /home/name/Desktop/new_folder or /home/name/new_folder_to_be_deleted ?
[20:32] <AJH101> Hi - anyone know anything about ISO files? I am trying to extract some files but am being told it is not in 9660 format. Any ideas?
[20:33] <lazybug> nhandler: /home/lazybug/Desktop/new_folder_to_be_deleted
[20:34] <nhandler> lazybug: rm -rf /home/lazybug/Desktop/new_folder_to_be_deleted
[20:34] <nhandler> That will delete the folder, any folders/files in it, and anything inside any of the sub folders
[20:35] <bobo123> AJH101: what .iso-file? I suppose it can be an cd/dvd-image with some other filesystem but called iso anyway, despite it isn't..
[20:36] <AJH101> bobo123: Sim City 3000 World Edition.iso
[20:38] <AJH101> bobo123: but wattos and lubuntu 10.4 iso files do not function either
[20:38] <lazybug> nhandler: i used the command (it's a empty folder) but the folder is still on the desktop
[20:41] <acerimmer_> nhandler: unmount it then delete?
[20:41] <bobo123> AJH101: hmm.. the lubuntu cd image should absolutely be an real (ISO 9660) iso I think.. strange
[20:42] <nhandler> lazybug: Does 'mount' show anything when run in a terminal?
[20:42] <bobo123> AJH101: have you tried some other program than ubuntu default to extract with? for example 7zip (7z)
[20:45] <lazybug> nhandler: yes i can see /dev/sda1 + /dev/sda5
[20:46] <bobo123> AJH101: if it was a real iso file you should be able to mount it with  mount -o loop disk.iso /directory  (see http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-iso-image-under-linux.html ) so you can just copy files with the filemanager
[20:56] <lazybug> nhandler: the fstab is still the same as an older copy i still have
[21:02] <phillw> hi, is anyone familiar with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Rescue%20Mode ?
[21:03]  * holstein has used the rescue mode
[21:04] <holstein> i tried to use it today
[21:04] <holstein> but i got a bad SD card in my EEEpc
[21:06] <holstein> phillw: if i remember correctly
[21:06] <holstein> i used it to reconfigure graphics once
[21:06] <holstein> in karmic
[21:07] <holstein> and maybe a disk check
[21:13] <phillw> hmm, well i've got an OP using it, being the devout coward I am I'm starting off with section 15 of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275  ;-)
[21:14] <insanity99> hey guys, anyone know how i can stop auto logout on ubuntu 10.4?
[21:14] <Chesamo> insanity99: What do you mean by auto logout? I've never heard of such a thing
[21:15] <insanity99> after been inactive for so long i need to re-enter my password to unlock the computer
[21:15] <phillw> i think it is part of the power saving options
[21:15] <holstein> yup
[21:15] <holstein> ^^
[21:15] <holstein> maybe in the screensaver settings too
[21:15] <Chesamo> That's not logout, it's a screen lock
[21:15] <phillw> it will give you an option to require passowrd
[21:16] <Chesamo> Right, holstein. That's where it is
[21:16] <Chesamo> "lock screen while screensaver is active"
[21:16] <phillw> Chesamo: they blend into eachother with 10.04 ;-)
[21:17] <insanity99> oh so if screen is locked is my torrent still going?
[21:17] <Chesamo> insanity99 of course <_<
[21:18] <insanity99> ahhh ok lol thanks guys
[21:18] <insanity99> cya guys
[22:49] <goodtime_> i need help
[22:49] <Chesamo> what's up, goodtime_?
[22:49] <goodtime_> my freakin net work says its downloading
[22:49] <goodtime_> and sending
[22:50] <goodtime_> and idk what is going on
[22:50] <goodtime_> i freeze alot too
[22:50] <Chesamo> Do you know of any applications that would be doing that?
[22:50] <goodtime_> my setup looks nice though now that i have my little desk here
[22:51] <goodtime_> nothing is opend up
[22:51] <goodtime_> it just is doing something
[22:51] <goodtime_> mt cpu is to the roof and so is my ram
[22:52] <goodtime_> im only running this client
[22:52] <goodtime_> oh and systen monitor
[22:52] <goodtime_> idk why
[22:52] <Chesamo> hm
[22:52] <Chesamo> Look in system monitor, see what's up
[22:52] <goodtime_> and im way slower
[22:54] <goodtime_> i look in it and it say im downloading and sending
[22:54] <goodtime_> very slow but wtf man
[22:54] <Chesamo> goodtime_ look at the process manager
[22:55] <goodtime_> with what
[22:55] <Chesamo> goodtime_ It should be one of the other tabs in system monitor
[22:55] <goodtime_> its running at a high rate
[22:55] <goodtime_> cpu 55%
[22:56] <Chesamo> goodtime_ go into Terminal and enter "top"
[22:56] <goodtime_> there something bad going on
[22:56] <goodtime_> ok
[22:57] <holstein> is it the update-manager?
[22:58] <goodtime_> nope just running 2 apps
[22:58] <goodtime_> well the terminal also
[22:59] <goodtime_> but it just started doing this lastnight
[23:00] <holstein> sounds like hardware to me
[23:00] <holstein> if it were my box
[23:00] <holstein> i would boot from a live CD
[23:00] <holstein> and see if it still acts up
[23:01] <goodtime_> hmmm
[23:01] <goodtime_> i need disks
[23:01] <goodtime_> ill brb going to get them


[00:29] <prometheanfire> holmanb: did you want to update https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/26175 or let me handle it?  don't want to step on toes or anything
[00:34] <prometheanfire> given the security nature of the update, I'll wait an hour before updating
[13:09] <blackboxsw> +1 prometheanfire thank you for reporting back on this front, reviewing and manually merging that changeset. for the sec fix.
[14:56] <blackboxsw> falcojr: https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/1561 a PR so we can try to release tip of main to Ubuntu Kinetic today
[14:57] <prometheanfire> yep, I wish I had more time to work on everything (dev and real life lol)
[14:59] <blackboxsw> totally understand that. not enough hours in the day.
[16:56] <blackboxsw> woot! tip of main released to Ubuntu Kinetic for anyone interested in kicking the tires on their latest cloud-init features. [ubuntu/kinetic-proposed] cloud-init 22.2-64-g1fcd55d6-0ubuntu1~22.10.1 (Accepted)
[16:56] <blackboxsw> ubuntu cloudimages should have this version 22.2-64 in a couple days
[16:57] <blackboxsw> thanks falcojr for the review/upload