[22:32] <drbobb> hi there, I am trying to install packages of moovida from the ppa, but ran into some problems even though I followed the instructions
[22:32] <DasKreecH> Ring switcher is probably pretty easy
[22:32] <DasKreecH> If it doesn't exist already
[22:32] <Mamarok> and compiz is not supported on Jaunty anymore AFAIK
[22:33] <DasKreecH> Mamarok: It has to be.
[22:33] <drbobb> I added the repo in synaptic and imported the key, but the packages still don't show up
[22:33] <DasKreecH> It ships with Ubuntu by default
[22:33] <TheGrammarFreak> I'm usiong it, from official reposotories
[22:33] <DasKreecH> drbobb: You reloaded ?
[22:33] <drbobb> DasKreecH: yep, twice
[22:34] <Mamarok> DasKreecH: well, Kwin is the default compositing manger for KDE
[22:34] <DasKreecH> drbobb: what package ?
[22:34] <DasKreecH> Mamarok: Yeah but default and supported are different things
[22:34] <drbobb> https://launchpad.net/~moovida-packagers/+archive/ppa
[22:34] <Mamarok> drbobb: did you add the gpg key?
[22:34] <DasKreecH> You can choose compiz as the winidow manager in default applications
[22:34] <drbobb> Mamarok: yep I did
[22:34] <DasKreecH> GPG key shouldn't stop them from showing up
[22:34] <TheGrammarFreak> Kwin is the best default window manager around, but I just prefer compiz
[22:35] <drbobb> and searching for moovida in synaptic yields 0 matches
[22:35] <DasKreecH> Maybe wrote it wrong in the sources.list ?
[22:35] <drbobb> DasKreecH: wouldn't that produce an error upon refreshing?
[22:35] <DasKreecH> TheGrammarFreak: Well Compiz isn't the default window manager for anything so those can both be equally true :)
[22:35] <DasKreecH> drbobb: Still wouldn't stop them from turning up
[22:36] <TheGrammarFreak> DasKreecH, Indeed
[22:36] <DasKreecH> drbobb: A warning not an error
[22:36] <swatto> Is it possible to change the graphical display when logging into kde
[22:36] <Mamarok> drbobb: the PPA say 0 packages built...
[22:36] <drbobb> well there was no warning either
[22:36] <DasKreecH> ah godo catch :)
[22:36] <TheGrammarFreak> I will keep trying with the blur
[22:36] <TheGrammarFreak> Cheers
[22:36] <DasKreecH> drbobb: The PPA is being populated it seems
[22:36] <drbobb> Mamarok: huh? OTOH there is a list of packages there
[22:37] <drbobb> just a minute...
[22:38] <drbobb> hey that's weird - aptitude search moovida finds the packages
[22:38] <drbobb> and synaptic doesn't
[22:38] <Mamarok> drbobb: where did you expect them to show up?
[22:39] <drbobb> Mamarok: typing moovida into the quick search widget
[22:39] <Mamarok> synaptic didn't show them as "new in the repositories"?
[22:39] <drbobb> nope it didn't
[22:39] <Mamarok> drbobb: the quick search only works for the current display, so if you are not in the all packages view you can't see any
[22:40] <Mamarok> use the search button instead
[22:40] <drbobb> Mamarok: I was in the all packages view, double checked that
[22:40] <drbobb> and I did try the search button too
[22:40] <Mamarok> the serach button is more reliable than quick search, I use the button for general serach, then narrow down with quick search
[22:41] <drbobb> actually I scanned through all the views and still found nothing
[22:41] <Mamarok> drbobb: tried origin -> ppa?
[22:41] <drbobb> yeah
[22:41] <Mamarok> drbobb: just tried here, works fine :)
[22:41] <Mamarok> in synaptic that is
[22:41] <drbobb> I said it was weird
[22:42] <Mamarok> drbobb: what is moovida exactly?
[22:42] <drbobb> still doesn't work for me
[22:42] <drbobb> Mamarok: some overgrown media player
[22:43] <Mamarok> hm, just found the website...
[22:45] <drbobb> hmm aptitude warns me the packages are unsigned, even though i did import the key
[22:45] <Mamarok> drbobb: added to your keyring?
[22:45] <Mamarok> the PPA generates the key automatically, so if it's in your keyring it should work
[22:46] <Mamarok> did you do an aptitude update before?
[22:46] <drbobb> yeah I know it should
[22:46] <drbobb> not sure whether I did update after adding the key
[22:47] <drbobb> I did do update in synaptic though
[22:47] <drbobb> yeah after updating I still get the warning
[22:48] <drbobb> seems I broke something or what
[22:50] <drbobb> moovida looks pretty slick but it probably won't work too well on my laptop anyway
[22:51] <drbobb> still wanted to try it out though
[22:53] <drbobb> yeah apt-key list says I do have the moovida launchpad key in my keyring
[22:56] <drbobb> but aptitude still insists the packages are unsigned
[22:56] <Mamarok> drbobb: aren't there any Elisa packages around?
[22:56] <Mamarok> it's just a rebrand of Elisa, no?
[22:57] <drbobb> Mamarok: well maybe, I've never used elisa
[22:57] <Mamarok> drbobb: it is a rebrand, was still named Elisa only a few weeks ago
[22:58] <drbobb> Mamarok: doesn't make much difference to me
[22:58] <drbobb> what I'm worried about is the package system playing funny tricks
[23:00] <drbobb> is synaptic supposed to hide unauthenticated packages?
[23:01] <Mamarok> drbobb: no, it doesn't
[23:01] <Mamarok> you can't just install those
[23:01] <drbobb> then I have no idea what's going on
[23:02] <Mamarok> drbobb: you can always install them with sudo apt-get and have to override the warning, but try adding the key again, maybe just a typo somewhere
[23:05] <drbobb> I added it from the keyserver, with apt-key adv --recv-keys
[23:05] <drbobb> no chance of a typo
[23:05] <DasKreecH> drbobb: That's the way to go :)
[23:06] <drbobb> DasKreecH: so? didn't work for me this time
[23:07] <Mamarok> hm, I used gpg in konsole to download and export it to apt-key, that worked fine here
[23:08] <drbobb> yeah I said it is in my keyring according to apt-key, but the packages are still reported as unsigned
[23:09] <wasim_> them your mtf
[23:10] <Mamarok> wasim_: do you have a question?
[23:11] <drbobb> well crap it's getting late, I'll try some other time
[23:13] <wasim_> yeah your f
[23:20] <wizardslovak> is there way i can get files from my phone over bluetooth in kubuntu
[23:20] <dennister> need some cups help fast! please! was working well this morning, but now it just prints gobbley-gook
[23:20] <wizardslovak> only think i see is send file
[23:20] <dennister> restarting cupsys doesn't help, turning it off doesn't help, rebooting doesn't help...
[23:24] <skafti> sound prob with browser can someone help me
[23:24] <skafti> the second day of trying to solve this
[23:38] <DasKreecH> skafti: Which browser? how are you playing sound?
[23:38] <dennister> DasKreecH: hey! am i glad to see you! :-)
[23:38] <DasKreecH> I'm glad to see me too!
[23:39] <dennister> open office is giving me a huge pain, only printing gobbleygook, heheheh
[23:39] <dennister> and i gotta print this and get outa here
[23:40] <skafti> i tryed conqeror mozilla and Ephipary and just trying to use exp. youtube
[23:40] <dennister> DasKreecH: would u have a minute to help with this?
[23:44] <skafti> i
[23:45] <skafti> i have noticed that volume indicator on the desktop panel shows 0% but i cant seem to alternat it but anyways i can listen to amarok for exp.
[23:46] <Barridus> anyone got any links on stuff that's commonly uninstalled to think kubuntu out for lower spec systems?
[23:47] <Hydrant> does anyone have rsh working on kubuntu?  Looks like lots of people have had problems getting it working
[23:50] <DasKreecH> dennister: can anything else print?
[23:50] <DasKreecH> skafti: try purging the Flashplugin closing all browsers and reinstalling it
[23:51] <skafti> tryed that yesterday
[23:51] <skafti> did not work
[23:52] <skafti> i was all day googling for the problem and 2 guys here tryed several solutions nothing worked
[23:52] <dennister> DasKreecH: yes...takin friggin long time to screenshot, paste, export to pdf, print
[23:53] <dennister> problem iwth with oo


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[20:13] <nairwolf> hi everyone, I know I've already discussed about that a lot in the past.
[20:14] <nairwolf> I would like to know if I'm running Xubuntu 16.10 with my daily computer, and if I make bug reports, will this help the QA team ?
[20:15] <nairwolf> I suppose I should add this ppa in order to help correctly, right ? http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/development.html#development-ppa


[17:01] <daftykins> i found mince pies at last \o/ Marks and Spencer are the saviours
[17:01] <daftykins> happy holidays everyone :)
[17:03] <zxmpi> happy holliers \o/
[17:04] <zxmpi> marks and sparks when you positively have to pay top penny to have it in stock :-)
[17:04] <daftykins> indeed! tree-fiddy a box
[17:05] <zxmpi> pretty much everywhere here is shutting at 1800. now is the time the more adventorous being their crimbo shopping.
[17:05] <zxmpi> leaving out cigarettes, matches, booze, crisps, and batteries till the last second. because it will give them something to do for next 2 days
[17:08] <zxmpi> *begin their
[17:09] <daftykins> hehe
[17:19] <zxmpi> oh, and bread and milk as none of those will be required in the next 2 days whatsoever
[17:59] <penguin42> we have plenty of those in the freezer
[20:42] <zxmpi> one milk cube or two? :-P
[20:43] <daftykins> haha
[21:33] <penguin42> zxmpi: I've got fairly into the habit of getting a 2pint bottle out of the freezer when I open the previous one
[21:33] <penguin42> but yes, sometimes I hav ehad to break a chunk up - we started doing it at the start of lockdown and haven't stopped
[21:34] <zxmpi> i just use powdered milk :-)
[21:37] <penguin42> I'd love to be able to send you the 4 tins I have in the cupboard that we no longer use
[21:38] <zxmpi> 2 i have should see me to end of next year
[21:39] <daftykins> i don't use milk!
[21:42] <penguin42> do you do nasty things to nuts instead?
[21:43] <daftykins> many cashews have laid down their lives at dafty HQ, that's for sure
[21:44] <daftykins> black coffee at home, the odd latte here and there (read: many) from nearby coffee chains would be almond, coconut or oat yeah :)
[21:45] <zxmpi> won't someone think of the oat milkers!!
[21:46] <daftykins> ah feels good, i had a nice session breaking down boxes and tidying a lot of junk that was occupying space up in my home-office
[21:46] <daftykins> in addition to taking care of the cat's litter tray and washing up, almost time to cook again though :(
[21:50] <zxmpi> don't get any of those mixed up :-D
[21:52] <daftykins> reminds me of that recent(maybe) trend of people cooking treats, putting them into a litter tray and eating from it to horrify family