[03:03] <arkaniad> !ubotu
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[03:03] <CyberCod> and much of that is hard to deal with because "jack" is such a pain.
[03:03] <kelvin911> how to generate the wine menu in UBUNTU main menu?
[03:04] <smith> i am not interested in audio
[03:04] <CyberCod> the next version should be better for audio with the Pulse audio put in
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> kelvin911, /join #Winehq
[03:04] <sdakak> Could you recommend doku or moin over mediawiki for a small newsletter project that will have 500 people working at most and which will require page permissions, and other non-wiki features extensively?
[03:04] <thinkingfrog> Kelvin:  cool nickname
[03:04] <Orbixx> How do I force Thunderbird to display images from any sender?
[03:04] <smith> but Ubuntu Studio looks much better, can it be applied to normal ubuntu?
[03:04] <kelvin911> main menu is ubuntu business not winehq
[03:04] <CyberCod> smith:  I suggest just getting Ubuntu Hardy Heron (IF IT EVER COMES OUT!!!)  and installing the art apps as you see fit.
[03:04] <tekteen> Orbixx: I do not suggest it
[03:05] <kelvin911> guy told me to come here and ask
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !themes > smith
[03:05] <smith> On this computer (the one im on) ubuntu does not work right, the resolution is messed up
[03:05] <Starnestommy> CyberCod: it will come out within the next few hours
[03:05] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  the wine program gerneates the various .desktop files. there is no app to 'regernate' them as far as i know
[03:05] <macd> smith, you can use the studio theme stuff with ubuntu
[03:05] <CyberCod> smith:  also, look into Blender... if you do any 3D type artwork
[03:05] <tekteen> Orbixx: you ready to receive alot of spam?
[03:05] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,   use the menu editor and make  your own i guess.
[03:05] <kelvin911> why installing wine wont generate those thing again?
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !res > smith
[03:05] <Orbixx> tekteen: I already do, it's filtered very well.
[03:05] <CJS3141> Jack_Sparrow: I know your busy, but if you have time for one last question--how do I determine if it is safe to install a given .deb program/file?
[03:05] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  installing WINE wont do anything.. installing an app with wine.. should make a menu item for that app
[03:05] <CyberCod> Starnestommy: I'm not trippin... its still the 23rd here... ;)
[03:06] <arkaniad> quick ques, anyone have a quick apt command to remove evolution and install thundirbird?
[03:06] <Damjanek> Hi. Does anyone has an idea, how to get an information if power supply is in redundant mode in IBM BladeCenter via SNMP?
[03:06] <kelvin911> but i install app and menu didnt come up
[03:06] <gonzo> Buenas alguien sabra la direccion de irc de ubuntu venezuela???
[03:06] <macd> CJS3141, if its in the ubuntu repos, chances are its fine, if its a 3rd party deb, its at your own risk
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> CJS3141, if it is not from our repos.. you take your chances and roll the dice.. have a system backup
[03:06] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  try logging out/back in.
[03:06] <kelvin911> do i need to add an item manually there?
[03:06] <Starnestommy> arkaniad: sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[03:06] <smith> thank you for your help.  Could someone please repost hardware compatibility, I lost it.  THanks
[03:06] <owen1> i installed xubuntu-desktop. is it risky to get rid of gnome (apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop)?
[03:06] <kelvin911> i did log out back in many times
[03:06] <Leonidas_> Jack_Sparrow well that definitely worked, doesn't hang at boot at all, thank you very much.  I have one more problem maybe you can help?
[03:06] <kelvin911> reboot many time
[03:06] <RyanPrior> !hardware | Starnestommy
[03:06] <ubotu> Starnestommy: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[03:06] <tekteen> arkaniad: sudo apt-get remove evolution; sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[03:06] <Deathserver> what fonts do i need to install to get flash working right
[03:07] <twistage> Whats up with Hardy including a Beta version of Firefox?
[03:07] <smith> ok, thank you cybercod, bye
[03:07] <jiraia> gonzo try #ubuntu-es
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Leonidas_, will try.. but you take your life in your hands
[03:07] <RyanPrior> Deathserver: Flash should work fine with the default fonts.
[03:07] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  guess you make your own icon then.
[03:07] <CJS3141> macd, Jack_Sparrow: OK, thanks so much for the help! Cheers... :)
[03:07] <kelvin911> i try also all methods mention here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=632090
[03:07] <CyberCod> adios mr smith
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> CJS3141, np
[03:07] <kelvin911> cant get it back
[03:07] <gustavo_> hey, I am using Kopete. can I try to use my webcam with one of you?
[03:07] <Orbixx> tekteen: Still there?
[03:08] <ironic_isnt_it> im having some trouble when connecting to irc. im using ubuntu 7.10 and xchat is my irc client. first its saying couldnt lookup host name and 2nd no identd (auth) response
[03:08] <kelvin911> i mean here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=594410
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> twistage, they have obvioulsy have tested the beta enough to include it
[03:08] <tekteen> Orbixx: can't find it :-(... still looking
[03:08] <sp3_> hello
[03:08] <Orbixx> tekteen: I have been, too. Weird.
[03:08] <sp3_> may someone please help me?
[03:08] <kelvin911> please read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=594410
[03:08] <arkaniad> who wants HARDY!!!
[03:08] <tekteen> !ask|sp3_
[03:08] <ubotu> sp3_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:08] <CyberCod> sp3_: whats the issue?
[03:09] <Orbixx> tekteen: Don't worry. I'll just stick to selecting trusted recepients as and when they mail me.
[03:09] <Orbixx> tekteen: Thanks for looking, though.
[03:09] <gonzo> alguien habla español
[03:09] <Starnestommy> !es | gonzo
[03:09] <ubotu> gonzo: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:09] <ironic_isnt_it> so can someone help me out with this?
[03:09] <arkaniad> !source
[03:09] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[03:09] <gustavo_> hey, I am using Kopete. can I try to use my webcam with one of you?
[03:09] <sp3_> if i install ubuntu on virtual machine(virtual box)..u know where it says to chooose how much ram you want to give it? well..will i get all my ram back when im not using the virtualmachine?
[03:09] <Leonidas_> Jack_Sparrow lol.  Well, my laptop couldn't get the desktop effects working, I run 7.10.  it said the composite can't be enable, or something like that.  well I got it working after editing xorg.conf and installing some type of x program...
[03:09] <arkaniad> !offtopic | gustavo:
[03:09] <ubotu> gustavo:: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:09] <Katherine> anyone know what time Hardy Heron is "officially" released?
[03:09] <backtick> ironic_isnt_it: i use a different program but usually that means you didn't set "Ident" in settings.. so try to look for it
[03:09] <CyberCod> yes
[03:09] <arkaniad> lol
[03:10] <Starnestommy> sp3_: when the virtual machine is closed, you will get the RAM back
[03:10] <tc111>  i'm so tired of searching... i need a linux boot manager utility (preferably easy-to-use) for creating a selection list of which partition to boot on a pendrive (flashdrive, usbstick, thumbdrive, etc...). any recommendation?
[03:10] <CyberCod> sp3_ yes you will
[03:10] <ironic_isnt_it> how?
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Leonidas_, ok.. xgl perhaps
[03:10] <arkaniad> gustavo: kind of random
[03:10] <Deathserver> well some sites after installing flash wont show links its just black
[03:10] <sp3_> cybercod:thanks
[03:10] <arkaniad> tc111: Grub.
[03:10] <Starnestommy> Katherine: there is no official time.  It will be released before the 25th, though
[03:10] <ironic_isnt_it> and do i possibly need to forward a port?
[03:10] <Leonidas_> Jack_Sparrow the thing is is that I don't want xgl anymore because it seems to make my laptop run poorly.  Is that possible?
[03:10] <marcel> my 435gb partition with all my work on it is marked as unallocated in gparted, i need it back now
[03:10] <fserve> hahahah
[03:10] <fserve> nice
[03:10] <fserve> os[Linux 2.6.24-16-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu 8.04] cpu[1 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor         1.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz] mem[Physical: 1.5GB, 79.8% free] disk[Total: 36.3GB, 22.4% free] video[VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP] sound[VIA8237 - VIA 82371: VIA82XX-MODEM - VIA 82XX modem]
[03:10] <fserve> im running it.
[03:10] <Katherine> so it could eb any time tomorrow
[03:11] <marcel> can someone help me a lil?
[03:11] <tc111> arkaniad: easy to use???
[03:11] <arkaniad> g2g dudes
[03:11] <Starnestommy> ironic_isnt_it: forward port 113 to your computer and run something like oidentd
[03:11] <CyberCod> marcel   hmmm
[03:11] <d0lphin_n0el> is everyone waiting for the new distro ubuntu release? :)
[03:11] <arkaniad> tc111: works 4 me
[03:11] <sdakak> The sound in flash videos in my browser stopped working.   You should have no problem removing it, but may I suggest you make a stop at /join #Compiz to make sure it isnt something else...
[03:11] <arkaniad> tc111: i dont have any tuts,,,,, srry
[03:11] <inevaexisted> sdakak your not the only one experiencing that prob
[03:11] <marcel> CyberCod, it's a external HDD, i pluged it in, and it was marked as unallocated
[03:11] <timboy> terminal redirection isn't working for me... I'm running: ~/cxoffice/bin/wine --debugmsg=all --bottle=NOF10 Fusion.exe > fusion.log and it still displays all in the terminal
[03:11] <sdakak> inevaexisted: that is comforting but still not cool.
[03:12] <sdakak> inevaexisted: was there a update/
[03:12] <arkaniad> g2g
[03:12] <inevaexisted> not sure
[03:12] <ironic_isnt_it> forward port 113 and install oidentd?
[03:12] <tc111> i've got 6 partitions, each with syslinux and an iso image. just need a method to choose which partition to boot
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Leonidas_, time for dinner...   take care...   everyone else play nice....
[03:13] <CyberCod> marcel:   what was the last system you had it plugged into... this same one?
[03:13] <Starnestommy> ironic_isnt_it: do you completely time out when conencting?
[03:13] <marcel> CyberCod, yes
[03:13] <ironic_isnt_it> no i dont think so
[03:13] <gustavo_> Hello.....    I am using Kopete. can I try to use my webcam with one of you?
[03:13] <CyberCod> marcel: been close to any big magnets?
[03:13] <marcel> CyberCod, and a windows dual boot before that
[03:13] <sdakak> How do I fix the missing sound in flash videos? Other system sounds and music plays fine.
[03:13] <marcel> CyberCod, no
[03:13] <Starnestommy> ironic_isnt_it: the message about identd responses can be ignored if you can connect fine otherwise
[03:13] <ironic_isnt_it> at least i havent gotten any time out errors
[03:13] <marcel> CyberCod, its been sitting where it is for about 6 months
[03:13] <CyberCod> marcel:   what is the filesystem on it?
[03:14] <marcel> CyberCod, NTFS
[03:14] <ironic_isnt_it> well it wont let me on fefnet
[03:14] <CyberCod> there ARE data recovery centers that can take it apart physically and extract your data... but it is costly.  If the data is worth that much trouble and expense, that is the safest option
[03:15] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: hey again
[03:15] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: what is DosBox supposed to do
[03:15] <n-iCe> how can I See by terminal my usb devices names
[03:15] <Starnestommy> ironic_isnt_it: do you get any other error messages when connecting?
[03:15] <CyberCod> marcel:  in all likelihood, its just the MBR and partition table that got bunked, and the data is still there
[03:16] <marcel> CyberCod, i used testdisk and it came up with nothing
[03:16] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: u there?
[03:16] <andy_> hiya, i`m new to irc so just checking it out
[03:16] <CyberCod> if you had a backup of the partition table, (which I'm assuming you don't) you could just restore it... but without knowing EXACTLY what partitions were on it and where they started and ended precicely, you could just ruin all your data
[03:16] <n-iCe> how can I See by terminal my usb devices names
[03:16] <inevaexisted> sdakak easy fix
[03:17] <andy_> anybody out there a C# wiz?
[03:17] <inevaexisted> sdakak you need to install the package "libflashsupport" its in the default repo
[03:17] <ironic_isnt_it> those are the only two i see at for this server
[03:18] <ironic_isnt_it> are u sure its port 113 chat.freenode.net says 6667?
[03:18] <CyberCod> there is a small utility included with Partition Magic for Windoze that lets you edit the partition table directly... it may be able to get you closer to restoring the proper partition settings.  I don't know what the proper tool would be for linux.  I just use dd to backup and restore mine.  but you can't restore what you don't have backed up
[03:19] <Starnestommy> ironic_isnt_it: identd uses port 113.
[03:19] <Starnestommy> ironic_isnt_it: but IRC uses 6667
[03:19] <n-iCe> how can I See by terminal my usb devices names
[03:19] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: lsusb?
[03:19] <marcel> CyberCod, Plz tell me i can get it back
[03:19] <ironic_isnt_it> ok lol sorry so it is 113 i need to forward?
[03:19] <Starnestommy> ironic_isnt_it: yes
[03:19] <marcel> CyberCod, theres some 400+gb of work on that that i simply cant loose
[03:20] <snask> i want to set up a high encrypted chat.. but i cant find a good app for it
[03:20] <CyberCod> marcel: you most likely can, if you unplug it right now, package it nicely and send it off to a data center.  If you keep futzing around with it, chances are you will lose it all.    If so, thats your answer.
[03:20] <tekteen> snask: pidgin does encryptions
[03:20] <ironic_isnt_it> any idea where id find identd settings for my client?
[03:21] <tekteen> snask: install pidgin-encryption
[03:21] <marcel> CyberCod, any other options?
[03:21] <tekteen> snask: then enable it in the plugins menu on pidgin
[03:21] <alfredo> anyone knows when 8.04 will be available (date AND TIME) ?
[03:21] <bazhang> lekremyelsew: sorry, dosbox is a way to run abandoned dos games--more info at www.abandonia.com
[03:21] <Starnestommy> alfredo: sometime between now and tomorrow
[03:21] <CyberCod> none that I know of...  someone else may be able to help if you stick around
[03:22] <marcel> ok thats my only option then...
[03:22] <fserve> the human-murrine theme, that i used in 8.04 alpha4
[03:22] <fserve> had a orange line
[03:22] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: ag, thats not what im looking for, the game that i am trying to do its a Quake based game called nexuiz
[03:22] <CyberCod> just search for Data Recovery Service  in google... should bring you a few.  shop around read reviews
[03:22] <fserve> like ubuntustudio have a blue one
[03:22] <snask> tekteen, i want a irc-like chat..
[03:23] <fserve> that line make the theme look better, but isnt here now : (
[03:23] <tekteen> snask: irc can use ssl
[03:23] <Starnestommy> snask: you could use ssl with irc, but freenode currently has no ssl
[03:23] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: it cant use the axis on the controller to change the camera so i am trying to find a work around
[03:24] <ironic_isnt_it> well im gonna and try those back in a few minutes
[03:24] <smith> hello again
[03:24] <tc111> CyberCod: testdisk is what you need for linux to recover partitions. just saved my butt by restoring the partition on my 160g drive full of my movies
[03:24] <smith> anyone here have a 780g chipset?
[03:24] <cirkit> I've reinstalled nm-applet and I don't see it in the Add to this Panel
[03:24] <tc111> marcel: testdisk is what you need for linux to recover partitions. just saved my butt by restoring the partition on my 160g drive full of my movies
[03:24] <travist120> Which channel is hardy release part on?
[03:24] <travist120> *party
[03:25] <CyberCod> tc111: thanks I will remember that.. he said he'd already tried that though
[03:25] <marcel> tc111, can you tell me how exactly you did that?
[03:25] <jitendra> i wanted to know if hardy is released
[03:25] <U9527> !hardty
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardty - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <U9527> !hardy
[03:25] <bazhang> lekremyelsew: the gaming section on ubuntuforums might help with that
[03:25] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[03:25] <InYourBase> cirkit: its not a panel application, hit Alt+f2 and then run nm-applet
[03:25] <alfredo> cirkit: be sure you are in network group
[03:25] <marcel> tc111, cause it told me that it wasnt recoverable
[03:25] <travist120> thanks
[03:25] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: mmaky
[03:25] <smith> anyone here have amd 780g chipset?
[03:25] <ironic_isnt_it> leave #ubuntu
[03:25] <cirkit> InYourBase: ahh ... well I'm just trying to get the network manager to show up in the gnome panel
[03:26] <cirkit> it got delete from the panel, and I don't see network manager in the Add Panel
[03:26] <smith> is vista eye-candy more demanding than ubuntu eye candy?
[03:26] <voradams> g'day all, quick one, is 8.04 realeased midnight GMT or some other time?
[03:26] <InYourBase> cirkit: it's not a panel applet, it just puts an icon in the system tray
[03:26] <kelvin911> can someone help me?
[03:27] <Odd-rationale> voradams: there is no spcified time
[03:27] <kelvin911> i want to manually add wine in main menu i dont know what type and what command for "Programs"
[03:27] <tc111> marcel: after realizing the partition table was gone, i didn't use the drive until i found testdisk, mind you, i didn't unmount it either, just didn't use it. ran testdisk against it and it found and restored the partition table. since it was an external, i didn't need to reboot as it said, just unplugged it and plugged it back in... bingo, back in service
[03:27] <voradams> Thanks mate.
[03:27] <kelvin911> if anyone has wine, can u check?
[03:27] <Odd-rationale> voradams: join the release party @ #ubuntu-release-party
[03:27] <smith> anyone know if 780g chipset will work on hardy heron?
[03:27] <backtick> snask: http://www.silcnet.org/
[03:27] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, just restart your gdm once
[03:27] <kelvin911> gdm?
[03:27] <marcel> tc111, im kind of new to linux is there anywhere you can point me to understand how to use it properly?
[03:27] <kelvin911> u mean reboot?
[03:28] <tc111> marcel: actually it was a slip of the keyboard by me... sde instead of sdd when wiping a single partition
[03:28] <Fa> read marcel
[03:28] <Fa> :P
[03:28] <Fa> make sure to turn on a firewal first
[03:28] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:28] <tc111> marcel: hold on a sec... i'll get the link...
[03:28] <kelvin911> is it the same as reboot?
[03:28] <smith> linux has firewall?
[03:28] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, nope only the X will reboot
[03:28] <smith> i know so little...
[03:28] <amenado> smith yes, but with no rulez
[03:29] <smith> ubuntu seems very complucated
[03:29] <Fa> i'm waiting for ubuntu 8 to come out
[03:29] <Fa> one more day
[03:29] <kelvin911> u sure sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart wont do anything else?
[03:29] <arvind_khadri> !iptables > smith
[03:29] <smith> i am not on ubuntu
[03:29] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, 100%
[03:29] <smith> it doesnt work on this comp
[03:29] <smith> its for other comp
[03:29] <Fa> it doesn't?
[03:29] <Fa> weird
[03:30] <smith> no, my video card is gay
[03:30] <smith> geforce 5700ve
[03:30] <Fa> so is mine
[03:30] <Fa> haha
[03:30] <kelvin911> what is gdm?
[03:30] <Light-> gnome display manager
[03:30] <KWierso> gnome display manager
[03:30] <smith> i dont get any taskbar, menubar, or anything, just a picture
[03:30] <Starnestommy> kelvin911: it provides the graphical login window and starts and restarts the X server
[03:30] <amenado> smith-> you want to learn linux? http://free-electrons.com/doc/unix_linux_introduction.pdf
[03:31] <kelvin911> my display has no problem
[03:31] <tc111> marcel: here's the link   http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[03:31] <smith> yes i do, im sick of keygens and piratiing expensive software
[03:31] <kelvin911> i delete my wine menu manually, and i cant get it back even i reinstall wine
[03:32] <smith> i have widescreen moniter, and 3 inches of it on the left is just black
[03:32] <smith> when using ubuntu, odd
[03:32] <cabrioleur> smith, change your resolution.
[03:32] <fserve> smith, can you change res?
[03:32] <smith> i cant access anything
[03:32] <quezote> hi
[03:32] <smith> the top menu bar thing is nonexistant
[03:32] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, thats related to your GDM only
[03:32] <kelvin911> please see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=594410&page=2
[03:32] <Invert314> ubuntu won't boot because i installed windows xp.  so i booted the ubuntu livecd and i can't fix it with grub. full error message details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&page=31
[03:32] <CyberCod> can you change your settings via the monitor?
[03:32] <smith> no
[03:33] <CyberCod> squish it down
[03:33] <kelvin911> how can restart the display manager getting wine menu back?
[03:33] <smith> in safe mode it works, but its massive and cant do 1440x900.  something like 800x600
[03:33] <fserve> wine menu? try reinstalling wine
[03:33] <kelvin911> i did reinstall wine
[03:33] <kelvin911> many times
[03:33] <fserve> to restart display manager /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:33] <fserve> but it will not help
[03:34] <marcel> can someone please help me get my partition back
[03:34] <kelvin911> nothing wrong with my display here
[03:34] <smith> anyone know if 780g is enough for ubuntu eyecandy/beryl
[03:34] <kelvin911> it s the menu
[03:34] <marcel> i cant figure out this testdisk and im about to pull my hair out
[03:34] <fserve> smith, yes it is
[03:34] <fserve> try it
[03:34] <kelvin911> if u have wine menu can u check the programs item in wine pls?
[03:34] <kelvin911> what is the type and the command
[03:34] <fserve> radeon HD 3200 inside ATi's 780G
[03:35] <fserve> ok
[03:35] <fserve> Browse C:\ Drive
[03:35] <fserve> xdg-open ~/.wine/drive_c
[03:35] <smith> ubuntu studio doesnt have live cd and I dont want to F things up
[03:35] <fserve> Configure Wine
[03:35] <fserve> winecfg
[03:36] <kelvin911> not browse c:\
[03:36] <fserve> paste Programs
[03:36] <kelvin911> i want Programs
[03:36] <kelvin911> the first item
[03:36] <fserve> paste Accessories
[03:36] <fserve> inside
[03:36] <kelvin911> what is the type?
[03:36] <marcel> heres my drive in gparted, i cant get that 450gb partition back, i need it for work
[03:37] <marcel> http://imgup.pure-wrath.com/images/180079Screenshot--dev-sdb%20-%20GParted.png
[03:37] <fserve> paste
[03:37] <fserve> acessories is a paste
[03:37] <randomoutburst_> hey does anyone know of any good web design irc rooms?
[03:37] <fserve> Notepad file
[03:37] <fserve> command: notepad
[03:37] <fserve> comment: A clone of Windows Notepad
[03:37] <kelvin911> i mean type
[03:37] <kelvin911> type for programs
[03:37] <kelvin911> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=594410&page=2
[03:37] <kelvin911> the first item
[03:38] <bazhang> fserve: what do you mean?
[03:38] <backtick> marcel: it's not a partition, it's shows as as "empty" space on hard disk
[03:38] <kelvin911> u have 4 items in wine right?
[03:38] <kelvin911> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=594410&page=2
[03:38] <fserve> bazhang, im talkin with kelvin911
[03:38] <bazhang> ah sorry fserve
[03:38] <marcel> backtick, i know, it usedto be NTFS
[03:38] <fserve> yes
[03:38] <fserve> 4 itens
[03:38] <kelvin911> what is the 1st one?
[03:38] <kelvin911> i want type and command
[03:38] <linlynx6> ubuntu should release at 6 pm
[03:39] <fserve> the first one
[03:39] <fserve> is a FOLDER
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter
[03:39] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:39] <arvind_khadri> linlynx6, no specific time
[03:39] <fserve> Named progams
[03:39] <kelvin911> how can u choose type as folder?
[03:39] <fserve> dunno
[03:39] <kelvin911> is it new menu or new item?
[03:39] <fserve> new item i think
[03:40] <kelvin911> can u give me the screenshot?
[03:40] <cirkit> Is there a way to add a network manager icon into the gnome panel?
[03:41] <xim> network manager?
[03:41] <xim> which one
[03:41] <arvind_khadri> cirkit, its should be there by default
[03:41] <absnt> Im going to install compizfusion, I have a nvidia card so does it matter if I use Envy or just enable the restricted driver? Which is a better choice/method?
[03:41] <xim> mine is already on there yeah
[03:41] <cirkit> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[03:41] <undecim> Hey, everyone, what bash command can I use to determine when an account will expire?
[03:41] <cirkit> it's not showing up anymore
[03:41] <xim> as long as your notify widgit is on
[03:41] <cirkit> arvind_khadri: it got deleted from there
[03:41] <sdakak> absnt: Use the restricted device manager
[03:42] <arvind_khadri> cirkit, report a bug ASAP and re-install gnome-panel
[03:42] <absnt> sdakak: k, any difference in the two though?
[03:42] <xim> are you talking about the tray next to the clock with the volume icon?
[03:42] <xim> i dont even have the option to remove my network icon from ther
[03:42] <RB2> I installed HomeUserBackup, but strangely enough, it didn't create a menu item. Does anyone know what the command is?
[03:42] <sdakak> absnt: Yes envy is just a script that fetches the package from nvidia site and installs it, not different from manually installing it.
[03:42] <_Rambaldi_> is there a command to output to screen not just terminal?
[03:43] <cgentry72> is there a way to download flash videos in firefox from ubuntu?
[03:43] <absnt> sdakak: and what does enabling the restricted dirver do? Is that driver up-to date?
[03:43] <sdakak> absnt: the restricted device manager uses drivers that come through the ubuntu repos. If you are not a bleeding edge user use the ubuntu repos, for eg. when there is a kernel update and you are using envy everything could break.
[03:43] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, you mean the youtube one
[03:43] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, yea
[03:43] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, there is a package for that youtube-dl
[03:44] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, cool thank you
[03:44] <sdakak> Sound in my flash videos has suddenly stopped working. I can play the rest of music files in my computer. What could be wrong?
[03:44] <absnt> sdakak: I see, thanks for the info! Do you recommend a specific script for installing compizfusion?
[03:44] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, you are welcome :)
[03:44] <_Rambaldi_> i found that very untrue,firefox delets flv files cgentry72 arvind_khadri
[03:44] <bazhang> cgentry72: it is really great that youtube.dl
[03:44] <sdakak> absnt: Please stick with the official stuff if you want to do other things with your life rather than sit and trouble shoot ubuntu.
[03:44] <bazhang> _Rambaldi_: that is something different
[03:44] <sdakak> absnt: compiz is installed by default.
[03:44] <arvind_khadri> _Rambaldi_, this package downloads it your home folder
[03:44] <sdakak> absnt: just search for compiz in synaptic if you want that advanced gui interface to tweak the settings.
[03:45] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, where is this package, whats the name
[03:45] <bazhang> !info youtube-dl | _Rambaldi_
[03:45] <ubotu> _rambaldi_: youtube-dl (source: youtube-dl): download videos from youtube.com. In component universe, is extra. Version 2007.08.24-1ubuntu0.1 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[03:45] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
[03:45] <Lukstr> what is the minimum processor speed you'd recommend for a media server?
[03:46] <_Rambaldi_> i suppose what i want is to stop flv from being deleted from cache, i am having to use ie7 in virtual box to save the files bazhang, arvind_khadri
[03:46] <solace> hello?
[03:46] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, thank you
[03:46] <sdakak> solace: ?
[03:46] <Danikar> solace: hello
[03:46] <bazhang> that link was provided by the illustrious captain Jack ;]
[03:46] <solace> Yes?
[03:46] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, no probs
[03:46] <sdakak> Can anyone help me with missing sound in flash videos in FIREFOX?
[03:47] <bazhang> _Rambaldi_: get miro or use youtube-dl
[03:47] <Danikar> sdakak: Try reinstalling flash?
[03:47] <shofetim> ?
[03:47] <sdakak> Danikar: nothing else?
[03:47] <solace> Anybody seen live free or die hard, I know they dont use a real OS, But it's easy to notice its ubuntu based, Anyone got a theme like matthews?
[03:47] <Joeseph> Hello everyone again.  I am a recent ubu ntu user who switched from windows.  I love ubuntu.   Unfortunetely, Ubuntu sometimes gives me problems. Like now, ProDifferent proccessess, (notably Xorg) is eating up my cpu for no reason.  I can't even see this while I'm typing my computer is running so slow.  I don't think its effects, as gnome did the same thing, and I had 'no effects' turned on.  I'm on KDE currently, but all my problems occur
[03:47] <Danikar> sdakak: I don't think he has too many settings you can mess with. That would be the first thing I would try personally.
[03:48] <_Rambaldi_> i often have this problem, usually if i close the other sound sources, sound works sdakak
[03:48] <sdakak> Danikar: Where do you find that .so file? I will delete it and just replace it from the flash site.
[03:48] <bazhang> solace: check gnome-look.org
[03:48] <sdakak> _Rambaldi_: oh.
[03:48] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, whats your ram
[03:48] <pen_> how do I set up ad hoc with one wireless card on ubuntu?
[03:48] <inevaexisted> sdakaka google hardy flash no sound
[03:48] <solace> Is there a search there?
[03:48] <Leonidas_> does anyone know how to get tomboy notes to start at startup? or any program for that matter?
[03:48] <Pici> !hardy
[03:48] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[03:48] <sdakak> inevaexisted: isn't this gutsy?
[03:49] <_Rambaldi_> Leonidas_, add it to the session
[03:49] <inevaexisted> hardy is the new release..
[03:49] <solace> Hardy =D
[03:49] <Arky44> If I were to run a command such as "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop", would that delete any files on my HD, and would I be able to view my GNOME desktop files in the XFCE environment?
[03:49] <solace> But I need help, Is there a search box on gnome-look.org?
[03:49] <_Rambaldi_> Leonidas_, system > pref>sessions
[03:49] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, this program doesn't show up in firefox, should it?
[03:49] <bazhang> solace: this is offtopic here; search and find out or make one yourself using gimp
[03:50] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, nope its a CLI one
[03:50] <juano__> Arky44: no it doesn't delete your files and yes, you will be able to login to Gnome also
[03:50] <Joeseph> Unfortunately, if I don't get this fixed soon, I'm going to have to switch back to windows.... which I don't want to do.- It also seems to be rather random- sometimes my computer will do fine,other times it will move slower than a sloth.  I have a 1.3 Gigahz proccessor  arvind_khadri and 512 megabytes of ram
[03:50] <solace> Got it.
[03:50] <Leonidas_> _Rambaldi_ what's the command though?
[03:50] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, so it just caches them in the home directory then?
[03:50] <Danikar> sdakak: You might find something in here helpful
[03:50] <Danikar> sdakak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#head-7be182bbefefd03501502a1763c4abb55b29d424
[03:50] <pen_> how do I set up ad hoc with one wireless card on ubuntu?
[03:50] <bazhang> cgentry72: downloads them not caches
[03:50] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, nope it stores/downloads them to there....
[03:50] <_Rambaldi_> for what program Leonidas_
[03:50] <undecim> How can I tell when a user will expire?
[03:51] <cgentry72> got it sorry.. thanks for all your help as usual
[03:51] <juano__> Arky44: that will just install the xfce desktop environment, but won't delete any other one you have installed
[03:51] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, how much is your swap space
[03:51] <scythe> Can anyone help me with some Chipset 610i issues please?
[03:51] <Leonidas_> tomboy nots
[03:51] <jasper> I'm using a chroot, and created a SUID file inside of it (the filesystem is ext3) with user ssmtp:ssmtp. I'm doing this so that the ssmtp user can read ssmtp.conf (which contains user/pass data) but the executing user can't. But when I run the file as another user, it still can't read the file nor does it report the proper UID (if I try the same approach with a shell script that echo's $USER).
[03:51] <Leonidas_> *notes
[03:51] <shane2peru> hey does anyone know where I can find a desktop jigdo file?  I didn't see any on the download page
[03:51] <Arky44> juano__: thanks! But if I log on under the XFCE environment, will I be able to view files I created in the GNOME environment?
[03:51] <ironic_isnt_it> ok i forwarded port 113 and installed oidentd but still getting those two messages couldnt lookup your hostname and no identd (auth) response
[03:51] <prey_alone> I can't update my ruby gems. Error Read-only file system
[03:51]  * scythe please chat me if anyone can help with chipset 610i issues
[03:51] <_Rambaldi_> Leonidas_, tomboy --search
[03:52] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, the command should look like youtube-dl -t http://<the link in the address bar of firefox>
[03:52] <Joeseph> my intel graphics card shows up on lspci, and II havnen't seen any problems with my card online
[03:52] <Leonidas_> _Rambaldi_ let me try brb
[03:52] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, swap space
[03:52] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, oh thanks that would be helpful :)
[03:52] <shane2peru> anyone know where to find the jidgo desktop file?
[03:53] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, you can use man youtube-dl for more info
[03:53] <shane2peru> It isn't on the download page, just torrent, and iso.
[03:53] <sparr_> im getting really annoyed at having to manage free space on my hard drives.  i wish there was a non-destructuve way to transparently spread a folder across multiple drives
[03:53] <Joeseph> arvind_khadri: I would look up how to figure that out, but my computer is running at one of those times were ti is slow: what's t a command to tell you how big your swap space is?
[03:53] <ironic_isnt_it> any ideas? someone can help me?
[03:53] <juano__> Arky44: yes, the files will remain unaltered, by this i mean everything in your home folder, and / will be completely visible from xfce, remember though that the desktop files of GNOME will not be deleted but they will not appear under xfce, i recommend you copy them in a folder inside your home and afterwards once you installed and started using xfce, then copy them back to the xfce desktop
[03:53] <Leonidas_> _Rambaldi_ is that the same command for most programs?
[03:53] <bazhang> shane2peru: for hardy? best give it a while then
[03:53] <shane2peru> bazhang, right, for hardy. :)
[03:53] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, wow so much support.. thanks again
[03:53] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, dont you remember how much you set the swap space for ....that should be twice your ram
[03:54] <Joeseph> arvind_khadri: sorry, everything is comming in in big spurts, so I have to scrooll back up for things I missed
[03:54] <shane2peru> bazhang, what do you mean, is it going to take a bit for it to come out?
[03:54] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, :)
[03:54] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, i'm download a video now and it's working
[03:54] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, thats ok
[03:54] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, happy Ubuntu-ing
[03:54] <bazhang> shane2peru: why not get a torrent and spread the love?
[03:54] <Arky44> juano__: thanks, that's what I was looking for :)
[03:54] <shane2peru> bazhang, yeah, I probably will just do that, do you know if a jigdo file will be out after final release?
[03:55] <juano__> Arky44: so first step, copy all files over the desktop in gnome, then make folder named something like "mydesktopfiles" , then copy the files inside there, then install xfce, then copy back the files inside "mydesktopfiles" to your xfce desktop
[03:55] <bazhang> shane2peru: without a doubt (or until am I told otherwise) ;]
[03:55] <nxusr>  it is possible to create a cron job to monitor a directory and if file with certain extension is written to it, to delete it?
[03:55] <Joeseph> arvind_khadri: I don't remembeare you suggeston  it would help if I made it bigger?
[03:55] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, i feel the problem is your ram....go for a higher one ..is the ram DDR-2 or SDR
[03:55] <rickey> i have just installed kubuntu 804 cant get my amaork or bmpx to play radio streams
[03:56] <shane2peru> bazhang, ok, thanks, I'll get the torrent started now then, and just update that with the jigdo for actual release!
[03:56] <Pelo> rickey, ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:56] <scythe> so no one running 610i?
[03:56] <pen_> how do I set up ad hoc with one wireless card on ubuntu?
[03:56] <Joeseph> arvind_khadri: Are you sure? my ram never shows up as being eaten alive, while my cpu is.
[03:57] <bazhang> only a few more hours of redirecting to #ubuntu+1 ! yahooo!
[03:57] <Pelo> scythe, not anymore it's over 18  months old , no longer supported
[03:57] <rickey> ok thanks
[03:57] <evilbug> i can't manage to set AWN to start automatically and the "Start at login" box is checked in the manager.
[03:57] <shane2peru> bazhang, ha ha, looking forward to the hardy release too, oh, I already have it installed. :)
[03:57] <Pelo> !wifi | pen_
[03:57] <ubotu> pen_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:57] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, ok go to System->Administration->System Monitor->Resources there you should find your swap
[03:57] <scythe> pelo, does an old version support it? can i bring support up to gutsy or hardy?
[03:57] <psych> wheres it?
[03:58] <Pelo> evilbug, make sure awn is on ,  and click the save desktop in the last tab of the session thingy
[03:58] <bazhang> watch out shane2peru still not safe to say (hardy, ssshhh!) in here ;]
[03:58] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, i *feel * not sure though...is the ram DDR-2???
[03:58] <shane2peru> Joeseph, or just type 'free' in the terminal window
[03:58] <Pelo> scythe, sorry,  I thought you meant ubuntu 6.10 , nvm me
[03:58] <foraoh> hi
[03:58] <pen_> Pelo: there is no ad hoc links
[03:58] <shane2peru> bazhang, opps. :)
[03:58] <foraoh> okay, the topic just answered my question
[03:58] <bazhang> cya later guys ;]
[03:58] <shane2peru> bazhang, cya, thanks.
[03:59] <scythe> is 610i chipset old? well f-me.n gigabyte released a board with it like 6 months ago
[03:59] <foraoh> still nobody has any clues when 8.04 is going to be out
[03:59] <scythe> m-atx spec
[03:59] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, bye tc
[03:59] <evilbug> Pelo- won't that open up every single application i have open atm?
[03:59] <pen_> Pelo: nvm https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc?highlight=%28WifiDocs%29%7C%28AND%29%7C%28ManufacturerModel%29
[03:59] <pen_> Pelo: but the network manager part is not working
[03:59] <Pelo> evilbug, close those you don'T want to start at boot
[03:59] <evilbug> Pelo- thanks.
[03:59] <Pelo> pen_,  I know diddly about wifi
[03:59] <pen_> Pelo: I don't want to use the CLI commends, because this is rare for me to do
[04:00] <mike> l
[04:00] <eZe> !channels
[04:00] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[04:00] <eZe> ty bot
[04:00] <Joeseph> arvind_khadri: I'm not sure, but I feel there is something wrong with Xorg, though I don't know for sure, as it is the programing eathing ridiculous amounts of cpu- as much as 50% just by movmaking a box with the mouse
[04:00] <Pelo> pen_, not sure what you mean, how many comands are there ? make them in to a bash script
[04:01] <euronymous> When will heron final be available on torrent?
[04:01] <owen1> what's the repository of vinagre? i am trying to get in in xubuntu.
[04:01] <pen_> Pelo: I don't understand why the commends are only teaching you how to join a ad hoc instead of creating one?
[04:01] <Popoi> GO GO HARDY HERON!!
[04:01] <Pelo> euronymous, it's the best way to distribute it , so yes
[04:01] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, hmm ...then try installing from a diff cd
[04:01] <jburd> euronymous: Is it already available via http?
[04:01] <shane2peru> Joeseph, this can happen with swap not being enabled
[04:01] <pen_> Pelo: do you need two or more wireless card to set up ad hoc?
[04:01] <Pelo> pen_, I wouldn'T know , I didn't make the guide
[04:01] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, purge X and try one
[04:02] <Pelo> pen_,  I do not know anything about wifi , you are asking the wrong person
[04:02] <euronymous> jburd: I mean the final release. I wanted to know when that candidate's torrent will be released.
[04:02] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg
[04:02] <scythe> if ANYONE can just get onboard LAN working on a 610i chipset, id love you.
[04:02] <pen_> Pelo: oh
[04:02] <shane2peru> arvind_khadri, won't he need to be out of X to do that?
[04:02] <arvind_khadri> shane2peru, nope
[04:02] <shane2peru> arvind_khadri, cool
[04:02] <Pelo> scythe, don' tyou need to enable it in the bios ?
[04:02] <shane2peru> arvind_khadri, that is why I love linux. :)
[04:02] <sdaka1> why is the room empty?
[04:03] <scythe> it is
[04:03] <scythe> tried it with Boot Rom enabled and siabled also
[04:03] <arvind_khadri> shane2peru, :)
[04:03] <scythe> the connection will recieve packets
[04:03] <scythe> but wont send
[04:03] <scythe> no matter what i do, ping says its sending
[04:03] <mike> hi all
[04:03] <thebigham> I really need help with my wireless connection. It can barely connect to my wireless network. And when it's finally connected, the connection is very unstable and slow.
[04:03] <scythe> the GUI shows no mackets sent
[04:03] <scythe> and tracerout cant leave localhost
[04:03] <Pelo> !enter | scythe
[04:03] <ubotu> scythe: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:03] <owen1> can i get vinagre (vnc client) on xubunt?
[04:03] <foraoh> 57 min left for hardy
[04:03] <Pelo> scythe, try asking in #networking maybe
[04:03] <arvind_khadri> ok gtg
[04:04] <scythe> will do
[04:04] <arvind_khadri> bye ppl
[04:04] <scythe> bye, and thank you
[04:04] <Pelo> owen1,  probably, xubuntu supports gnome apps,   check in the repos
[04:04] <shane2peru> owen1, yes, many gnome apps can be installed with xubuntu
[04:04] <foraoh> when it happens you guys will change your thought
[04:05] <sdaka1> foraoh: what are you messing around with?
[04:05] <owen1> shane2peru: Pelo: apt-get can't find it.
[04:05] <Pelo> Owner, what release are you on ?
[04:05] <_Rambaldi_> foraoh, do you know what time they are running off, coz its been 24 for a while now
[04:05] <shane2peru> owen1, no, aptitude has a search, aptitude search package
[04:05] <rich_phoenix> hi
[04:05] <owen1> Pelo: 7.04
[04:05] <Pelo> owen1, you'll have to wait until you upgrade to 8.04
[04:06] <owen1> Pelo: is xubuntu get updated just like ubuntu?
[04:06] <Pelo> _Rambaldi_, it's  5 am in the UK right now , I think you can let the cannonical ppl have a shower and breakfast
[04:06] <cirkit> I already have gnome installed, but for some reason gnome-desktop wasn't installed ... isn't gnome-desktop part of gnome already?
[04:06] <shane2peru> ok, I'm out of here, cya
[04:06] <Pelo> owen1, yes
[04:07] <Pelo> cirkit, shuldbe ,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will install everything you need
[04:07] <_Rambaldi_> someone foraoh said 57 min to go thats why i ask Pelo
[04:07] <cirkit> Pelo: ok
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow>  No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[04:07] <Nick123> Can;t get my wireless driver to install on my laptop in ubunutu 7.1
[04:07] <sdaka1> I re-installed flash. Still I don't get sound in flash videos in firefox. Other music plays fine.
[04:07] <bjv> How do you apt-get install an old version of a package?
[04:07] <Flannel> _Rambaldi_: #ubuntu-release-party is a good place to go to wait/etc
[04:08] <Pelo> _Rambaldi_,  I expect he was counting down to midnight where ever he is
[04:08] <sdaka1> Jack_Sparrow: ^ ?
[04:08] <sdaka1> Pelo: I  counted down to midnight UTC :(
[04:08] <_Rambaldi_> that makes sense Pelo
[04:08] <[1]Joeseph> Alright, now I'm on a computer that actually works....
[04:08] <Nick123> Can;t get my wireless driver to install on my laptop in ubunutu 7.1, can someone help?
[04:08] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, whre are baker and howlands ilsands is that the international date line ?
[04:09] <jericho> does anybody knows at what time will Hardy be available to download?
[04:09] <sdaka1> Pelo: probably UTC + 23?
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, the date line
[04:09] <Flannel> jericho: no.  No one does.
[04:09] <_Rambaldi_> i had no idea such channels existed Flannel
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[04:09] <xim> i wanna encrypt my files, does anyone have a fav utility?
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> jericho: #ubuntu-release-party in the meantime
[04:09] <jericho> woooot a party
[04:10] <hvgotcodes> how do it get a 686 optimized kernel ?
[04:10] <sdaka1> sound not working in firefox - flash videos. I re-installed it from the repos. The video plays fine. Other sound works too. anyone?
[04:10] <sdaka1> hvgotcodes: !smp
[04:10] <Pelo> hvgotcodes, stick to the generic
[04:10] <sdaka1> !smp > hvgotcodes
[04:10] <hvgotcodes> sdaka1: what?
[04:10] <milly1234> hi, I just added a tv tuner card to my computer and as soon as that worked I no longer am able to use my usb webcam, I am running Gutsy, the webcam worked before that but now it does not, anyone have a clue what might be causing this?
[04:11] <Flannel> hvgotcodes: generic is optimized
[04:11] <sdaka1> !smp
[04:11] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[04:11] <hvgotcodes> sdaka1: is that a general no to symmetric multi proc?
[04:11] <blacklabelsk8> so is hardy dropping midnight tonight?
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> blacklabelsk8: no.
[04:11] <milly1234> or what sorts of things I should be looking for
[04:11] <Pelo> lol
[04:11] <blacklabelsk8> bummer :\
[04:11] <[1]Joeseph> arvind_khadri: are you still here? I'm back
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow>  No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.   It's in the topic already.
[04:12] <pedrosanta> My Americas Army keeps gettin from fullscreen to window mode, and even sometimes the screen blacks Does anyone have it too or knows how to solve it?
[04:13]  * blacklabelsk8 stands corrected
[04:13] <blacklabelsk8> well thanks for the info at least
[04:13] <hvgotcodes> Flannel: hmmm ok
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> :)
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> blacklabelsk8, did you read the topic
[04:13] <scythe> People in channel #networking sent me back here
[04:14] <cgentry72> ubuntu rules !!!
[04:14] <u007-1> hi, i thought ubuntu 8 is releasing today? :P
[04:14] <u007-1> the numbers has gone :P
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> u007-1: #ubuntu-release-party please
[04:14]  * Pelo sends scythe  to #networking right back ,  hey this is like pingponi
[04:14] <Pelo> ping pong
[04:14] <scythe> my intergrated NIC can recieve but not send packets. its on the 610i chipset. any tips?
[04:14] <XceII> sooooooooo, is it on schedule ??
[04:15] <scythe> #networking had no ideas and sent me back here
[04:15] <Pelo> scythe, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport and www.ubuntuforums.org ,  for research not for posting
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> XceII, Please read the channel topic
[04:15] <XceII> I c
[04:15] <XceII> ok, ill go back in my hole.
[04:15] <twistage> So what time is it coming out?
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[04:15] <twistage> kidding
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow>  No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[04:15]  * tonyyarusso wins
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[04:15] <sdaka1> tonyyarusso: :)
[04:16] <rich_phoenix> hi
[04:16] <scythe> ubuntu support is fucked
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Welcome rich_phoenix
[04:16] <rich_phoenix> thanks!
[04:16] <ofir> hello
[04:16] <sdaka1> scythe you are welcome
[04:16] <cgentry72> if i typed in a command for a program where is it usually stores, like pidgin etc
[04:16] <XceII> im on it right now, the thing actually S C R E A M S.
[04:16] <ofir> does anyone know what time hardy update will be available?
[04:16] <Twistage> hahah
[04:16] <Pici> ofir: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[04:16] <Pici> ofir, Hardy will be released some time during the 24th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[04:17] <sdaka1> cgentry72: /usr/bin
[04:17] <ofir> ok, thanks
[04:17] <cgentry72> sdaka1, cool thanks
[04:17]  * Pelo feels bad about not being able to hehlp scythe , but what the heck
[04:17] <[1]Joeseph> willl sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg uninstall, then reinstall x-org?
[04:17] <ali1234> cgentry72: read 'man which'
[04:18] <XceII> Pici:  when it is released, will the kernel be the same as the update?
[04:18] <smith> lmao i am banned from #ubuntu party
[04:18] <Pelo> Joeseph, no,  sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg --purge && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg will
[04:18] <smith> i was making fun of ubotu
[04:18] <Artemis3> For the 4th time, and second year, would you mind providing a torrent? Ah well i know ill be ignored and or bashed again, and again we swim... Your little trick didn't work :P
[04:18] <Pici> XceII: As the update?
[04:18] <mayakuza> is there someone here that can help me whit compiz fusion?
[04:18] <sdaka1> smith: they are protective of bots there
[04:18] <Pelo> [1]Joeseph, and please take that crap off before you nick it,s hellish to type
[04:18] <XceII> the last kernel update
[04:18] <Pelo> Joeseph, no,  sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg --purge && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg will
[04:18] <cgentry72> i don't see pidgin though listed in /usr/bin
[04:18] <smith> hes my bitch, he should respect me
[04:19] <wubrgamer> where do i download 8.04?
[04:19] <Pici> XceII: In hardy currently?
[04:19] <sdaka1> cgentry72: 'locate pidgin'
[04:19] <XceII> ya
[04:19] <wubrgamer> is the iso made already?
[04:19] <Pici> wubrgamer, Hardy will be released some time during the 24th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[04:19] <sdaka1> wubrgamer: where do we?
[04:19] <Pelo> cgentry72,  in the terminal tyupe locate pidgin
[04:19] <smith> i reall cant get banned from this one too
[04:19] <Flannel> Artemis3: fourth time and second year?  What?
[04:19] <Fa> locate pidgin
[04:19] <Pelo> wubrgamer, not out yet ,  ubuntu.com tomorrow
[04:19] <smith> that would not be good
[04:19] <Fa> didn't work
[04:19] <Fa> jk
[04:19] <Pici> XceII: Yes, it'll be the same.
[04:19] <Fa> lol
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> !etiquette | smith
[04:19] <ubotu> smith: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...
[04:19] <Pici> !final | XceII
[04:19] <ubotu> XceII: If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Hardy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[04:19] <cgentry72> Pelo, thats cool thanks
[04:19] <Joeseph> Hey, anyone wanna help me instead of waiting for the new release? willl sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg uninstall, then reinstall x-org
[04:19] <Joeseph> ?
[04:19] <XceII> ok tx, hey fa
[04:20] <Fa> hey
[04:20] <Fa> i'm downloading ubuntu 8 on friday
[04:20] <Fa> waiting for the final relase
[04:20] <Flannel> !away > dman|away
[04:20] <Painless> busy in here... anyone would think there's a new release due or something
[04:20] <sdaka1> !away
[04:20] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubotu Guidelines»
[04:20] <XceII> im  already running it fa, have been for a month'
[04:20] <Pelo> Painless,  this is the usual,  actualy a lot less troubleshooting then usual
[04:20] <milly1234> I am running Ubuntu 7.10 and just installed a TV Tuner card and now my Webcam stopped working, it doesn't even show it under the multimedia systems selector in the video part, though it does show its usb mic, it also shows up when I enter "lsusb" in a terminal but nothing else shows it or can use it, anyone have a clue what might be causing this?
[04:21] <Fa> i was running the beta but i wanted to centos
[04:21] <Fa> i'm on windblows right now
[04:21] <mayakuza> can someone here help me whit compiz fusion?
[04:21] <Artemis3> Flannel, Swimming in the pool.
[04:21] <XceII> what does centos have that ubuntu dont
[04:21] <Painless> Pelo: I could see from the userlist when I joined the channel :)
[04:21] <Fa> Selinux
[04:21] <Starnestommy> XceII: this channel is not about centos
[04:21] <XceII> oh
[04:21] <Pelo> XceII, don'T know we donT use centos
[04:22] <Joeseph> Anybody want to stop just waiting for the new ubuntu and help me?   *Threatening*I'll switch back to windows
[04:22] <Fa> centos is pretty much redhat
[04:22] <wubrgamer> ubuntu doesn't have selinux???????///
[04:22] <Pelo> Joeseph, no,  sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg --purge && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg will
[04:22] <XceII> i dont either, dont fret, im ubuntu bought
[04:22] <Pici> !offtopic
[04:22] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:22] <Pelo> Joeseph, isnT' that what you wanted ?
[04:22] <Fa> ubuntu has selinux?
[04:22] <wubrgamer> idk
[04:22] <XceII> yep
[04:22] <Flannel> wubrgamer: Yes it does.  It uses AppArmor as default, but SELinux is available.
[04:22] <Pelo> Fa, next release
[04:22] <Fa> lol where?
[04:22] <Painless> its in 8.04
[04:22] <wubrgamer> aah, thought so
[04:22] <Pelo> Joeseph, wht is y our issue ?
[04:22] <milly1234> anyone here a video input guru :( please
[04:22] <Fa> oh i guess you have to turn it on
[04:23] <Joeseph> Pelo: Xorg eats up the cpu
[04:23] <Pelo> milly1234,  jsut state your issue
[04:23] <Pelo> Joeseph, turn off compiz
[04:23] <milly1234> I am running Ubuntu 7.10 and just installed a TV Tuner card and now my Webcam stopped working, it doesn't even show it under the multimedia systems selector in the video part, though it does show its usb mic, it also shows up when I enter "lsusb" in a terminal but nothing else shows it or can use it, anyone have a clue what might be causing this?
[04:23] <Joeseph> pelo: don't have compiz
[04:23] <Starnestommy> Joeseph: did you enable desktop/visual effects?
[04:24] <Joeseph> Starnestommy: yes, but it eats up cpu when I have them disabled also
[04:24] <Pelo> Joeseph,   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , let it pick the video driver and donT' change any of the default answer provided unless you absolutely know better
[04:24] <Pelo> mayakuza, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[04:25] <mayakuza> i'm new to ubunto but can't gett compiz to work
[04:25] <Pelo> milly1234, my guess it that your tvcard is now hoging /dev/video0 ,  which is wat your webcam was using , not sure how to fix it ,   try reconfuring the the webcam
[04:25] <Pelo> !webcam | milly1234
[04:25] <ubotu> milly1234: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:25] <Joeseph> Pelo: alrighty, just for your info, I have a 1.3 gighz procesor, and 512 meg of ram, an intel graphics card which I have not seen very much trouble with when searching online.
[04:25] <linkinxp> !compiz mayakuza
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz mayakuza - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <Pelo> mayakuza, whatvideo card ?
[04:25] <evilbug> issue: i completely uninstalled pidgin via synaptic and it's still in my Applications>Internet :| i go into terminal and run "sudo apt-get remove pidgin" and it says it's not installed.
[04:25] <linkinxp> !compiz | mayakuza
[04:25] <ubotu> mayakuza: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[04:25] <milly1234> thanks, I willl check that out
[04:25] <evilbug> but if i click on it,it runs.
[04:26] <Pelo> Joeseph, you just got a badly configure X probably
[04:26] <Starnestommy> evilbug: did you ever install it from somewhere other than the package manager?
[04:26] <Gary_inNYC> evilbug, it's probably just the entry in your menu...
[04:26] <evilbug> Starnestommy- i did,i compiled one.
[04:26] <jgoo> hrm. Installed ubuntu on a thinkpad, and afterwards the user booted into windows, and ran the lenovo 'updates'. This proceeded to trash GRUB. What is the best action?
[04:26] <csdepadmin> net
[04:26] <evilbug> Starnestommy- but i thought it just overwrote the previous one.
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> !grub | jgoo
[04:26] <Joeseph> Pelo: thank you,  I will run that command and see what happens... its odd though, it only happens sometimes, when my computer acts slow
[04:26] <ubotu> jgoo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:27] <Starnestommy> evilbug: you'll need to go into the directory where the sources are for it, then run sudo make uninstall or sudo make deinstall
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> jgoo: the RUAIW instructions should work.
[04:27] <Pelo> jgoo,  ,  download the supergrub cd , and use that to fix stage one in grub the mbr bit
[04:27] <MrPeepers310> hey i need some help i cant get the svn for gwenview to run on eclipse. I already dl'ed the plugin for svn capabilities but whenever i choose it it just does nothing
[04:27] <jgoo> I'd like to get XP up, first, as this is something the user needs, and then later worry about linux - the machine doesn't have floppy which is the only reason I ask as I cannot do a fdisk /mbr
[04:27] <gustavo_> jgoo: http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/how-to-restore-grub-using-the-ubuntu-live-cd/
[04:27] <LainIwak1ra> Can someone teach me how to find where a program is installed?
[04:27] <evilbug> Starnestommy- what if i deleted the actual folder and everything?
[04:27] <LainIwak1ra> through apt-get
[04:27] <Starnestommy> LainIwak1ra: dpkg -L packagename
[04:27] <jgoo> aaaaah gustavo_ good call
[04:27] <gustavo_> jgoo: :)
[04:27] <LainIwak1ra> Starnestommy: Thank you.
[04:28] <Starnestommy> evilbug: then you'll have to manually find and remove the files
[04:28] <Twistage> Is crossover about the best solution for windows emulation? (i understand its wine)
[04:28] <Pelo> LainIwak1ra, that's not how linux works your program's files are all over
[04:28] <gustavo_> jgoo: or u can use a win xp CD to restore the win mbr
[04:28] <evilbug> Starnestommy- i'm a nub and don't know where it would be installed because i would've done that :(
[04:28] <Pelo> Twistage, crossover is commercial and you have to pay for it , wine is free
[04:28] <Flannel> !filesystem | LainIwak1ra
[04:28] <ubotu> LainIwak1ra: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[04:28] <Pelo> later folks
[04:28] <Starnestommy> evilbug: probably in several places in /usr/local
[04:28] <Twistage> Pelo: As far as functionality though
[04:28] <darren_> i have triede to restore the mbr of windows and i stil have the same problem
[04:28] <darren_> lol
[04:29] <Starnestommy> evilbug: run "locate pidgin" to find where it would be
[04:29] <jgoo> So, I load the live CD into the live session?
[04:29] <Gary_inNYC> Twistage, I run Office 2007, Pokerstars and Guild Wars in Wine... it's very good for my purposes if that matters
[04:29] <jasper> I've created a SUID script (4755 and test:test) on an ext3 filesystem (in a chroot). But when I run the script as another user, it doesn't report the proper UID. I'm having the script execute 'ps -o ruid -o euid -o suid -o fname | grep test.sh' which comes up with 3 x the UID of the user executing the SUID, but not the script's owner (per the SUID). Does anyone know what I'm missing here?
[04:29] <evilbug> Starnestommy- any command to have them deleted directly from terminal?
[04:29] <jrib> jasper: you can't suid scripts
[04:30] <Starnestommy> evilbug: if you had the sources that you used to install with, you could cd to their directory and run sudo make uninstall or sudo make deinstall
[04:30] <tawt> can a nVidia GeForce 8600M GT 256 MB graphics card support advance compiz graphics?
[04:30] <supersako> what time exactly will 8.04 be out tomorrow?
[04:30] <Twistage> Gary_inNYC: Alright good
[04:30] <evilbug> i see
[04:30] <Starnestommy> supersako: there is no exact time
[04:30] <evilbug> Starnestommy- thanks.
[04:30] <gustavo_> supersako: nobody knows :P
[04:30] <jasper> jrib: Ah. :)
[04:30] <supersako> DAMNIT!!!
[04:30] <supersako> i want it like now...
[04:30] <Starnestommy> supersako: but it will be out within the next 24 hours or so
[04:30] <supersako> :)
[04:31] <gustavo_> supersako: you can install the RC and dist-upgrade.. it would be a good proxy for the final release
[04:31] <GoetzC> I will not ask about time :) Why Howland Island??
[04:32] <jasper> jrib: I also tried to SUID an executable, /usr/sbin/ssmtp (to send mail from inside of my chroot). And then having it read a file with user/pass information on the mailserver (hence the SUID, so others can't read the user/pass). But when I execute that as SUID it can't read the /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf (test:test with 0700) either.
[04:32] <dmsuperman> Right so XFX's website isn't loading, where else might I be able to get my audio driver for my new XFX motherboard?
[04:32] <jgoo> http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/how-to-restore-grub-using-the-ubuntu-live-cd/ << I have the 'typical' ubuntu installed after windows XP - so those commands work?
[04:32] <jgoo> root(hd0, 1)
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> GoetzC: It's right next to the Int'l dateline.
[04:32] <cab86> hello, anyone around?
[04:32] <grhluna> hey cab86
[04:32] <tawt> can a nVidia GeForce 8600M GT 256 MB graphics card support advance compiz graphics?
[04:32] <jgoo> gustavo_: when I do this, using a terminal, and reinstall grub, this means I will get the same ubuntu / windows choice as before
[04:33] <juano__> tawt: for sure
[04:33] <jbur1> tawt: yes
[04:33] <tawt> nice
[04:33] <jgoo> gustavo_: but it also means that, again, at the next point where updates are installed, this user might loose their laptop usage?
[04:33] <tawt> i'm looking at laptops at system76
[04:33] <gustavo_> jgoo: i think so..
[04:33] <Joeseph> just had an epiphany:  Does Xorg configure keyboards too?
[04:33] <joe___> ooh, ubuntu64 out yet?
[04:33] <grhluna> get the new driver you might need to reconfig xorg
[04:33] <joe___> or will it be out at the same time?
[04:34] <gustavo_> joe___: same time
[04:34] <sushith> Hi
[04:34] <cab86> hello grhluna,  quick question...  i'm looking to completely remove the ati drivers... therefore i'm getting rid of anything with the fglrx in its name...   but I also noticed that there are linux-restricted-modules installed for 4 different kernels in my system
[04:34] <cab86> is it alright to remove some of those?
[04:34] <sushith> How many hours more for the Hardy Heron release ?
[04:34] <Starnestommy> sushith: there is no set time
[04:34] <tonyyarusso> No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[04:34] <Joeseph> Is it possible xorg might be going crazy because I have a wireless keyboard?
[04:34] <Siropel> sushith, just a few :)
[04:35] <GoetzC> thanks <tonyyarusso>
[04:35] <stroyan> Joeseph:  If you have a crazy wireless keyboard.....
[04:35] <joe___> tonyyarusso: but who do we know on Baker and Howland Islands who can look at a clock and precisely (by the second) notify us?!!
[04:35] <sushith> alright thanks guys, i am very eager to use it
[04:35] <Joeseph> stroyan: just brainstorming....
[04:35] <rickey> i got this message////Type 'kubuntu-restricted-extras.' is not known on line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:36] <Cpudan80> Hello hello
[04:36] <U9527> Cpudan80, welcome
[04:36] <rickey> i know i hafe to go in and fix this
[04:36] <Cpudan80> So --- am I going to be able to do an apt-get upgrade at the stroke of midnight ?
[04:36] <rickey> but i forgot how
[04:36] <Fdisk93> gustavo: you could install grub in the root partition then use bootpart.exe to and have boot menu under xp to boot linux
[04:36] <Cpudan80> so.... in 25 mins more or less ?
[04:36] <gustavo_> Fdisk93: its for jgoo, not me :P
[04:36] <gustavo_> Fdisk93: but thx
[04:36] <Fdisk93> oh sorry
[04:36] <Fdisk93> np
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> joe___: teh magical intarnets
[04:37] <Fdisk93> jgoo: you could install grub in the root partition then use bootpart.exe to and have boot menu under xp to boot linux
[04:37] <cdm10> How do I release/renew my IP?
[04:37] <dmsuperman> I can't get xfxforce.com to load, where else can I get linux drivers for my xfx mobo from?
[04:37] <undecim> cdm10: dhclient
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> cdm10: sudo dhcli<tab><enter>
[04:37] <cdm10> thanks
[04:37] <jgoo> Fdisk93: thanks, I was just reading backscroll.... ok - I am doing what it says on that link I posted (http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/how-to-restore-grub-using-the-ubuntu-live-cd/) and I get setup (hd0) unable to mount partition...
[04:38] <baudelaire> I love Ubuntu.
[04:38] <dmsuperman> baudelaire, me too, and it loves us back
[04:38] <baudelaire> I'm a full convert, have been since gutsy
[04:38] <Painless> same here... was pulled to it from Gentoo, which I adored
[04:39] <jgoo> Fdisk93: any ideas on how to list the partitions? this is a laptop, maybe there is an additional partition? *$(*(*$(*$ updates screwing the boot record... wtf
[04:39] <baudelaire> It took me a long time to get into linux full on -- I was a Mandrake 7.0 user back in the day-- but very casually
[04:39] <U9527> Cpudan80, so in another 25 mins, hardy will be out, you sure
[04:39] <Fdisk93> jgoo: can you boot xp right now ?
[04:39] <baudelaire> Painless, what made you switch from gentoo?
[04:39] <jgoo> no Fdisk93... I will see if there is an XP cd around though
[04:39] <gustavo_> i moved from debian to gentoo.. and than to ubuntu..
[04:40] <zack_> hey im running 7.10 x64 and installed the restricted nvidia drivers nvidia-glx-new 100.14.19, Im thinking of upgrading to the Nvidia 169.12 drivers from there website anyone have suggestions on which is will give better profomance
[04:40] <Painless> baudelaire: I started using linux back in the 0.9.x kernel releases and have had plenty of 'doing everything myself' experience... I just loved a distro which took away the hard work
[04:40] <Fdisk93> jgoo: is private msg ok ?
[04:40] <jgoo> Fdisk93: more than welcome!
[04:40] <gustavo_> i used to like gentoo.. but apt-get is much faster than compiling packages with emerge :)
[04:40] <grhluna> cab86: try #ubuntu+1
[04:40] <grhluna> they want me to make breakfast here
[04:40] <Painless> I did get fed up with package install times on gentoo... and broken packages
[04:40] <grhluna> be right back
[04:40] <Rafabe> hi
[04:40] <Painless> not to mention 2 day installs
[04:40] <Rafabe> hi
[04:40] <Lardarse> jgoo: the fdisk command has an option that will display partitions, but i don't know which one, now would i recommend casual use of the fdisk command
[04:40] <cab86> actualy im asking rightnow to see if the xubuntu guys know about it
[04:40] <baudelaire> I hear ya Painless
[04:41] <Lardarse> nor would i*
[04:41] <cab86> oops, kubuntu guys
[04:41] <gustavo_> i learned a lot with gentoo... but yes, nowadays i dont have patience to install it
[04:41] <milly1234> it seems my video issue is due to gspca not working with v4l-dvb stuff, I wasn't sure if I understood it exactly, but it looks like there is not a solution out there or I missed it when I looked for one
[04:41] <james__> do we know roughly when the final release images will be available? i'd like to have some CDs ready for the australian release party.
[04:41] <Rafabe> what is the Linux equivalent of the "edit" command in DOS? I need to check a conf file because Ubuntu's install is failing and booting me to console
[04:41] <Cpudan80> U9527: No idea
[04:41] <Starnestommy> Rafabe: vim or nano
[04:41] <Painless> Linux needs to be as easy to install as windows for it to reach popularity with the masses... I feel that ubuntu goes a long way towards that dream
[04:41] <dweebgirl> what's the best chat tool to use
[04:42] <james__> Windows IS NOT easy to install!
[04:42] <mayakuza> what was the compiz chanel agein_
[04:42] <Lardarse> dweebgirl: depends on the chat protocol
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> Rafabe: nano is probably a bit more friendly to an edit user.
[04:42] <Starnestommy> mayakuza: #compiz
[04:42] <Rafabe> starnes: neither work
[04:42] <U9527> dweebgirl, xchat
[04:42] <dweebgirl> well, x-chat leaves a lot to be desired
[04:42] <gustavo_> Rafabe: try vi
[04:42] <Rafabe> "not found". The OS is not installed yet, it's failing during install
[04:42] <U9527> dweebgirl, konversation
[04:42] <Starnestommy> Rafabe: put "sudo" before the command
[04:42] <dweebgirl> ok
[04:42] <Rafabe> I tried vi too. I googled a bit before coming here
[04:42] <dweebgirl> konversation that's the one
[04:42] <dweebgirl> i want a nice black background
[04:42] <Painless> I like irssi myself, but it's personal taste as always
[04:42] <dweebgirl> and white tex
[04:43] <dweebgirl> *text
[04:43] <dweebgirl> white on black
[04:43] <Lardarse> Rafabe: if you know how to use vi, then vim will do most of what you know (and i believe that you can turn off the wim extras)
[04:43] <baudelaire> I think Ubuntu on the business side is the next fronteir to conqueror.  What do you guys think?
[04:43] <Rafabe> painless: from what I heard Wibi will make Ubuntu's install not a nightmare (if you have Windows)
[04:43]  * tonyyarusso is also an irssi user, with white on black
[04:43] <dweebgirl> ok
[04:43] <dweebgirl> good
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> baudelaire: We use it on servers at work already :)
[04:43] <dweebgirl> white on black
[04:43] <Rafabe> landarse: but none of these commands are working
[04:43] <dweebgirl> hear that rich
[04:43] <Cpudan80> Painless: Windows is a real pita to install if you have a reasonably complex system
[04:43] <Lardarse> dweebgirl: any irc client cna do any colour scheme
[04:43] <Painless> Rafabe: yup... a friend tried it on the beta the other day, said it was a dream to install
[04:43] <rich_phoenix> hi
[04:43] <baudelaire> oh yeah, tonyyarusso?
[04:43] <komputes> Does anyone know how I can set gnome-terminal to open a new tab instead of a new window, when clicking on the icon/launcher???
[04:44] <Rafabe> the prompt says "initramfs" which must mean limited commands
[04:44] <Lardarse> Rafabe: "sudo apt-get install vim" ?
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> baudelaire: Yeah - the majority is Solaris (yuck), but all of the new machines I've installed got Ubuntu.
[04:44] <Painless> Cpudan80: agreed... but in most cases its easy... there will always be tough installs for any OS
[04:44] <baudelaire> wow
[04:44] <Lardarse> Rafabe: but use nanao, because there's less of a learning curve
[04:44] <dek> I need to make a script to do poff dsl-provider, but only sudo can do that. How can I workaround this?
[04:44] <Rafabe> landarse: read my lips: THE OS IS NOT INSTALLED. I AM FAILING TO GET IT INSTALLED, IT'S BOOTING ME TO A CONSOLE AS SOON AS IT LOADS "VMLINUZ" AND NONE OF THE COMMANDS ARE AVAILABLE
[04:44] <Starnestommy> Rafabe: try the alternate cd
[04:45] <Lardarse> no need to shout
[04:45] <Rafabe> starnes: yeah, but that won't be until tomorrow :(
[04:45] <baudelaire> I came across this site, anyone else hear of them?  I'm pretty sure they advocate Ubuntu: http://www.linuxforsmallbusiness.com
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> baudelaire: check with your LoCo for efforts to expand Ubuntu usage in your area though
[04:45] <kittykitty> rafabe, which kernel are you loading?
[04:45] <fdkrew> any admins here?
[04:45] <Rafabe> land: sorry
[04:45] <Falkman> I have a question, I just got ubuntu 8.04, and my wireless isn't working(intel 3945abg) the wireless networks show up and everything, and when I click on one and enter my pass phrase, it doesnt work at all. Anyone know why? (It works out of the box on ubuntu 7.10, why not on this?)
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> fdkrew: what for?
[04:45] <baudelaire> LoCo?
[04:45] <Rafabe> kitty: 7.04
[04:45] <Rafabe> got a new computer
[04:45] <kittykitty> livecd?
[04:45] <Rafabe> yeah
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> baudelaire: Local community team.  What country are you in?
[04:45] <kittykitty> what is the prompt for this shell look like?
[04:45] <fdkrew> to unban me so i can join ubuntu party channel
[04:46] <baudelaire> USA
[04:46] <Rafabe> getting a "/bin/sh: Can't access tty; Job control turned off" error
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> fdkrew: that would be a question for #ubuntu-ops then
[04:46] <baudelaire> Tennessee
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> baudelaire: state?
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> ah
[04:46] <Twistage> Gosh, all these problems that people are encountering are freaking me out about upgrading.
[04:46] <fdkrew> ok
[04:46] <Rafabe> kitty: it says "initramfs"
[04:46] <kittykitty> i forget, the cd uses grub right?
[04:46] <neeto> Is there a way to automatically mount everything in fstab?
[04:46] <Rafabe> yes it does, but I'm not getting far enough to use it
[04:46] <Arky44> Is there a way to quickly change sessions without logging out (for example, switching from Xfce to GNOME, and vice versa)?
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> baudelaire: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TennesseeTeam
[04:47] <baudelaire> I'm trying to swtich to Ubuntu fulltime on my business machine
[04:47] <baudelaire> ty
[04:47] <Starnestommy> Arky44: try sudo mount -a
[04:47] <jacobu9> Anybody know exactly what time/timezone Hardy launches?
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[04:47] <stroyan> neeto:  mount -a will get all the automounts
[04:47] <fdkrew> Any one here is using a Dell Latitude D600? anyone?
[04:47] <neeto> stroyan: thanks man
[04:47] <Painless> neeto: mount -a will mount everything in fstab
[04:47] <dmsuperman> Where can I get linux drivers for nForce for 680i LT SLI chipset?
[04:47] <Arky44> Starnestommy: so, like sudo mount -a xfce
[04:48] <dmsuperman> nvidia.com says it can't find any when i do a search
[04:48] <fdkrew>  Any one here is using a Dell Latitude D600? anyone?
[04:48] <pragmaticpie> Hello.
[04:48] <Starnestommy> Arky44: er, I think I got you confused with someone else.  You'll need to log otu then back in
[04:48] <Starnestommy> *out
[04:48] <pragmaticpie> Anyone here successfully synced a Treo 650 with Kpilot over USB?
[04:48] <Arky44> Starnestommy :P sorry
[04:48] <baudelaire> That's a great site tonyyarusso -- I didn't know something like that existed
[04:48] <pragmaticpie> The daemon's crashing every time I try it.
[04:49] <Rafabe> is Heron going to be released midnight tonigt (ie, in 15 mins on the east coast) or in 24 hours?
[04:49] <Lardarse> when it's done
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> baudelaire: they might even have an IRC channel too.  Also check whether there will be a release party in your area.
[04:49] <Rafabe> maybe I'll just stop trying to install 7.04 and wait for Heron
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[04:49] <Kev3124> do you think its worth it to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04?
[04:49] <rich_freecomm> ok :)
[04:49] <neeto> Kev3124: Not yet. wait
[04:49] <gaspipe1> night all
[04:49] <Kev3124> ok
[04:49] <Qster> i have 8.04 really nice
[04:49] <ApOgEE-> can anybody help me please, where to Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M driver on ati.com? i can't find it
[04:49] <max> hi Im download hary heron is it beta ?
[04:50] <neeto> rofl
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> max: For the next few hours, yes.
[04:50] <neeto> hahaha
[04:50] <u007-1> neeto - its not that stable yet?
[04:50] <Kev3124> how long should i wait?
[04:50] <max> ok
[04:50] <neeto> u007-1: I think it comes out tonight
[04:50] <Arky44> Hello all :) Is there a way to quickly change sessions, such as switching from GNOME to Xfce?
[04:50] <max> stop downloading and waiting
[04:50] <neeto> Just wait for the official 1.0 release
[04:50] <u007-1> haha.. okay :D
[04:50] <neeto> It's just safer
[04:50] <Kev3124> ok. thanks
[04:50] <Lardarse> Arky44: without logging out?
[04:50] <u007-1> *do not ask*
[04:50] <Rafabe> there's a thread on the HH forums with people saying it should be pushed back a week to fix bugs
[04:50] <Scunizi> Arky44: yes.. log out .. change sessions.. log in.
[04:50] <u007-1> shhhh*
[04:50] <foraoh> 10 minutes left
[04:51] <Arky44> Scunizi: is that the only way, though?
[04:51] <stroyan> Arky44:  It is actually possible to run multiple X servers with different sessions. But it is not common.
[04:51] <Hardy_HardOn> Whats the likely hood of things breaking from upgrading distros
[04:51] <tom____> Quick question -- If I want to run a cron job as root -- do I just do "sudo crontab -e" and input the command?  I'm assuming then I can just put the command in there without a sudo, right?
[04:51] <Kev3124> 1 more question... when upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04.. is it necessary to back up files?
[04:51] <Arky44> stroyan: OK :)
[04:51] <Scunizi> Arky44: no.. but I'm about to ask the group how.. as I have an interest too. running kde and gnome at the same time
[04:51] <Stroganoff> Arky44: you could write a script that terminates panel, desktop and windows manager and launches the other ones
[04:52] <Scunizi> Anyone know how to run gnome in one tty(7) and kde in another? at the same time?
[04:52] <yajiv> hi all
[04:52] <Arky44> Stroganoff: that sounds a bit too complicated for me :P
[04:52] <ApOgEE-> can anybody help me please, where to get Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M driver on ati.com? i just can't find it
[04:52] <luis_> #ubuntu-es
[04:52] <Scunizi> ApOgEE-: isn't their site just wonderful?!
[04:53] <neeto> When hardy comes out, can I upgrade seamlessly from 7.10 or is there gonna be some work to get everything working well?
[04:53] <tom____> Quick question -- If I want to run a cron job as root -- do I just do "sudo crontab -e" and input the command?  I'm assuming then I can just put the command in there without a sudo, right?
[04:53] <Scunizi> neeto: seemless
[04:53] <luis_> #ubuntu-es-es
[04:53] <bluefoxx> so i found a xbox360 controller with a usb adaptor at my thrift store today, and plugged it into my ubuntu hardy system, and it seems to work, only problem is that i need to use joy2key with it and wants /dev/js0. but the controller is /dev/input/js0. how do i fix this?
[04:53] <Twistage> Scunizi: What's the deal with people having hardware conflicts via the last RC then?
[04:54] <neeto> Scunizi: completely? I have a bunch of psuedo-hackish crap that's making my compiz install, and it's a big feisty on 7.10 anyway, I think it might just decide to commit suicide if I upgrade the kernel
[04:54] <Scunizi> Twistage: seemless upgrade after official release.. not now.
[04:54] <Kev3124> 1 more question... when upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04.. is it necessary to back up files? (will personal documents be lost when upgrading?)
[04:54] <genii> bluefoxx: edit the udev rule for symlinks and add the one you need
[04:54] <neeto> word
[04:54] <Twistage> neeto: I feel your pain
[04:54] <Stroganoff> Arky44: applications -> system tools -> new login (it may be hidden, use the menu editor)
[04:54] <bluefoxx> genii: how?
[04:54] <nikitis> Is 8.04 released tomorrow?
[04:54] <nickrud> Kev3124 not by design.
[04:54] <Stroganoff> Scunizi: applications -> system tools -> new login (it may be hidden, use the menu editor)
[04:54] <cdm10> Kev3124: it's very very very unlikely that anything will happen. If the system can't boot after the upgrade, you should still be able to get your files off using a livecd.
[04:54] <cdm10> nikitis: please read the topic
[04:54] <tom____> awww come on!!! someone has to know..it's an easy question...
[04:55] <genii> bluefoxx: If you open the file the syntax is easy to understand
[04:55] <Starnestommy> tom____: I think so
[04:55] <bluefoxx> genii: kk, will try it...
[04:55] <peepsalot> oooh, it's about to be so 1337 in here
[04:55] <Kev3124> alright. thanks... just wanted to make sure that upgrading wasnt the equiv. of a hard drive wipe
[04:55] <Scunizi> neeto, seemless might not be in your case.. it's pretty much for a clean system with no major mods.. begs the arguement for a separate /home
[04:55] <nikitis> cdm10, i'm asking what time tomorrow, but tomorrow right?
[04:55] <genii> bluefoxx: Right now I don't have enough time to assist properly. But I gave you the correct approach to use
[04:55] <nikitis> April 24th?
[04:55] <bluefoxx> genii: kk, tyvm
[04:55] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: so that will allow both to run at the same time? same user?
[04:55] <tom____> Starnestommy: you've never run a nightly rsync backup?
[04:55] <Twistage> tom____:  you don't need sudo under root
[04:56] <tom____> Twistage: thank you :-)
[04:56] <Starnestommy> tom____: no, but I have used cron before
[04:56] <nikitis> cdm10, i mean i'm not asking what time tomorrow, just if it is released tomorrow april 24th
[04:56] <Stroganoff> Scunizi yes
[04:56] <darren_> ya
[04:56] <darren_> what time is the releas pary
[04:56] <milly1234> well it looks like I can't have more then one video input device in ubuntu
[04:56] <bluefoxx> genii: /etc/udev/rules.d/??
[04:56] <Stroganoff> darren_: #ubuntu-release-party
[04:57] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: and "new login in a window" will allow .. say .. kde to run in a window?
[04:57] <The_PHP_Jedi> you're all not leet now.
[04:57] <genii> bluefoxx: In that dir, yes. Some file with symlink in name
[04:57] <Stroganoff> Scunizi i dont know, i dont have gnome installed
[04:57] <dweebgirl> how does rich change his colors for x-chat
[04:57] <SuperRoach> does anyone know when 8.04 is going to be released? im waiting hehe :)
[04:57] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: are you a terminal buff?
[04:57] <Stroganoff> Scunizi just try it out
[04:57] <bluefoxx> genii: what should the file name look like?
[04:58] <Scunizi> k
[04:58] <theLichKing> SuperRoach: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:58] <nikitis> SuperRoach, trying to find out if it's released april 24th
[04:58]  * SuperRoach looks at topic, ah I see. Is there an estimate?
[04:58] <Stroganoff> Scunizi no i use parts of xubuntu
[04:58] <genii> bluefoxx: 1 minute
[04:58] <theLichKing> SuperRoach: besides, you can know right from the version number
[04:58] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: ah.. I just found out that it has to be a different user.
[04:58] <bluefoxx> genii: kk
[04:58] <theLichKing> SuperRoach: 8.04.. year 8 month 04
[04:58] <luis_> hi good night i like to ask you for help, every time i open mozilla it cover the entire screen and the icons that suppose to be up there at the right hand to minimize, clos or amplife the wondows do not appear how can i fix this please? help
[04:58] <Falkman> Jeez, i hate the new 8.04 :P im going back lol
[04:58] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  Help?
[04:58] <Twistage> Falkman: for what reason
[04:59] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: I heard of a way to CTRL+ALT+F7 or F8 to bounce back and forth between different DM's with the same user and same /home
[04:59] <Scunizi> but forgot how
[04:59] <nickrud> luis_ look for 'full screen' on the menu options
[04:59] <Falkman> Twistage: My wireless card does not work, and its a bug, it detects networks, i just cant connect... lots of people are having the same problem too
[04:59] <Arky44> Stroganoff: Ah, I've been having some fun with the Menu Editor... is there a way to get "New Login in a Window" to work? It says the X server isn't configured well...
[04:59] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, any Idea how to sync my cellular(nokia6610)  over IR with my laptop Toshiba 6100 ?
[04:59] <Stroganoff> Scunizi i know that, its very easy with XDM and SLIM but i dont know yet how to set it up with GDM
[05:00] <Scunizi> Arky44: you might need to create a different user to log in with
[05:00] <Twistage> Falkman: What card ?
[05:00] <stroyan> dweebgirl:  There are two xchat packages in ubuntu-  xchat-gnome and xchat.  The xchat-gnome package is dumbed down.
[05:00] <Falkman> Twistage: intel 3945abg
[05:00] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: thanks
[05:00] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:00] <cirkit_> For some reason gnome-network manager doesn't show up anymore when I try and add the applet "notification area" ... it is installed too
[05:00] <cirkit_> only bluetooth notifiction shows up
[05:00] <Stroganoff> Scunizi try running gdmflexiserver from the terminal
[05:00] <nickrud> cirkit  type  alt-f2 nm-applet
[05:00] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:00] <Arky44> Falkman: most Windows Wireless Cards don't work with ubuntu. It's easy to fix though :)
[05:00] <dweebgirl> AutoMatriX, do you have the nokia pc suite?
[05:01] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: not sure what that did but I had to log in again.
[05:01] <Falkman> Arky44: How? it works fine out of the box with 7.10
[05:01] <LainIwak1ra> Hello, could someone teach me how to search for two keywords  using grep? For example, how do I search for all history lines containing both "ssh" and "lain"? history | grep ssh+lain?
[05:01] <luis_> on applications nickrud?
[05:01] <AutoMatriX> dweebgirl, I have, but I want to sync with Evolution
[05:01] <cirkit_> nickrud: cool ty
[05:01] <whitt> can we get help with hardy in this room yet, or is it still ubuntu+1?
[05:01] <Stroganoff> Scunizi nothing on ctrl+alt+f8/f7?
[05:01] <Twistage> I'm going to shoot myself if my wireless and sound stop working again under hardy
[05:01] <nickrud> luis_ on the firefox menus, probably under view
[05:02] <nickrud> whitt still 7.04
[05:02] <Arky44> Falkman: Have you installed ndisgtk or ndiswrapper in Synaptic?
[05:02] <megatog615> omg april 24th
[05:02] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:02] <luis_> so i hacve to open mozilla?
[05:02] <AutoMatriX> dweebgirl, what was your idea ?
[05:02] <Falkman> Arky44: No, i never had to before so I didnt think I would have to, ill try
[05:02] <nickrud> whitt when you can't get into #ubuntu+1, it's released if prior history means anything
[05:02] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: F9 gives me a nice black screen with a movable mouse pointer.
[05:02] <nickrud> luis_ run firefox/mozilla, and look under the view menu.
[05:02] <Qster> whats the difference between the release i dled and the one that everyone is waiting for?
[05:02] <Stroganoff> Scunizi you could try to go to ctrl+alt+f8, login and run: kde-session -- :1
[05:03] <Arky44> Falkman: I had the same prob for a while...ndiswrapper is the terminal equivalent of ndisgtk (I like it better :))
[05:03] <luis_> ok thanks
[05:03] <punkn00dlezz> When is Hardy going to be released?
[05:03] <nickrud> Qster which did you get?
[05:03] <Starnestommy> punkn00dlezz: in a few hours
[05:03] <Qster> 8.04
[05:03] <KyleK> heh
[05:03] <nickrud> punkn00dlezz see topic
[05:03] <Stroganoff> Scunizi or ctrl+alt+f1 rather
[05:03] <Arky44> Falkman: you then need to manually install your driver from there
[05:03] <AutoMatriX> dweebgirl, ? gone ?
[05:03] <nickrud> Qster it'll update automatically
[05:03] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:03] <JPSman> does anyone know much about ndiswrapper?
[05:03] <KyleK> i think we should ignore anyone who asks questions answered by the topic :)
[05:03] <Qster> ah
[05:03] <Falkman> Arky44: Aww... :P fine, just the ipw3945 one or w/e?
[05:03] <JPSman> I want to know how to get it working
[05:03] <punkn00dlezz> My fault. Boy I feel dumb now.
[05:03] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: ah.. ok.. thanks.. I think that was the command that was given to me in the past.. do I still need gdmflexiserver? and what does that do?
[05:03] <Invert314> i read the man pages, but i still can't figure out: how do i unmount all drives?
[05:03] <dweebgirl> Automatrix, there's a nokia forum re; this
[05:03] <KyleK> hey how come there isn't ndiswrapper modules for 64bit?
[05:03] <luis_> thank you very much nickrud it did work  i really appreciate your help
[05:03] <bullgard4> What could be the reason that GNOME Search Tool does not find my file ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf? I notice that on 2 different laptops using different Ubuntu versions.
[05:04] <dweebgirl> are u a member?
[05:04] <karllenz> what is kernal panic not syncing?
[05:04] <Rafabe> I'm trying to install the Hardy Heron that came out 10 minutes ago and I'm getting an error
[05:04] <Stroganoff> Scunizi forget gdmflexi
[05:04] <KyleK> bullgard4: it searches . directories?
[05:04] <nickrud> luis_ you're welcome
[05:04] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:04] <KyleK> Rafabe: error: error not found?
[05:04] <AutoMatriX> dweebgirl, what do you mean ?
[05:04] <bullgard4> KyleK: Just a moment. I will check.
[05:04] <Rafabe> hahaha
[05:04] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: ok.. but I'm still curious.. what's it suppose to do?
[05:05] <dweebgirl> lemme get you the link
[05:05] <JPSman> does anyone know about wireless driver building/repair?
[05:05] <JPSman> or ndiswrapper?
[05:05] <anony> dicks
[05:05] <stroyan> karllenz:  That is the linux equivalent of the blue screen of death.  Something bad happened in the kernel.
[05:05] <MEtaLpREs> anyone know what time today hardy becomes available? i see it just says coming soon now
[05:05] <Stroganoff> Scunizi same as "new login" i think
[05:05] <Invert314> how do i unmount all drives i previously mounted?
[05:05] <karllenz> what can i do to fix this i just added ram could that be the issue??
[05:05] <stroyan> Invert314:  What about "/" ?
[05:05] <Arky44> Scunizi: Ctrl + Alt + F1 opens some kind of terminal OS
[05:05] <suprie> Invert314, umount -a
[05:05] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: k.. thanks.
[05:06] <bullgard4> KyleK: No, it does not find the directory ~/.gnupg either.
[05:06] <nabcore> karllenz; run the ram checker
[05:06] <Scunizi> Arky44: yes.. it's called a tty.
[05:06] <karllenz> ok
[05:06] <nabcore> karllenz: memtest option from bootCD
[05:06] <karllenz> memtest
[05:06] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:06] <Invert314> suprie: i already tried umount -a...the srives are still mounted
[05:06] <Invert314> stroyan: what about /?
[05:07] <stroyan> You don't want to umount /, do you?
[05:07] <nabcore> the ban list for this channel is.... quite big :)
[05:07] <Invert314> stroyan: i am on a livecd =D
[05:07] <anony> MAC>PC
[05:07] <nickrud> kmg here's mine: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[05:07] <KyleK> bullgard4: so it doesn't search . directories?
[05:07] <anony> MAC>PC>LINUX
[05:07] <anony> MAC>PC>LINUX
[05:07] <anony> MAC>PC>LINUX
[05:07] <anony> MAC>PC>LINUX
[05:07] <anony> MAC>PC>LINUX
[05:07] <suprie> Invert314, which partition you want to umount
[05:07] <Starnestommy> anony: stop that
[05:07] <Scunizi> Arky44: you have to have kubuntu-desktop installed and then initiate the command that was given previously. then you can log in with gnome regularly and add kde to ctrl+alt+f1 or 2 or 3 or...
[05:07] <stroyan> nabcore:  The ban list is getting bigger.
[05:08] <Arky44> Scunizi: Ah....
[05:08] <KyleK> why do you guys always op up and down?
[05:08] <Arky44> *epiphany*
[05:08] <JPSman> how can I upgrade hardy when I can't get online BECAUSE of hardy??
[05:08] <KyleK> it spams the channel unnessesssarily :p
[05:08] <nickrud> KyleK freenode policy
[05:08] <karllenz> bios rom checksum error?
[05:08] <twistage> Whats the easiest way to DD a drive
[05:08] <Starnestommy> nickrud: it's actually a guideline, not a policy
[05:08] <KyleK> hah
[05:08] <Falkman> Damnit, i cant even make iwlwifi, i get loads of make errors
[05:08] <Invert314> suprie: /dev/sda3, sda2, sda5 mounted to /ubuntu, /ubuntu2, /ubuntu5 respectively (i think)
[05:08] <Falkman> screw this, no compatability == fail
[05:09] <Arky44> Hardy is not showing up in Update Manager...is there a terminal command for it?
[05:09] <cdm10> Arky44: it's not out yet.
[05:09] <Invert314> i actually forget which part is mounted to which directory
[05:09] <nickrud> Starnestommy guideline, recommended policy, half a dozen one 6 of the other
[05:09] <KyleK> Falkman: epic fail?
[05:09] <Arky44> cdm10: *grr* :P
[05:09] <cdm10> Arky44: you can force an upgrade to it by running "update-manager --devel-release"
[05:09] <Falkman> KyleK: yep!
[05:09] <kmg> nickrud: permission denied
[05:09] <Arky44> *is counting the seconds*
[05:09] <Invert314> suprie: how can i tell which drives are mounted to which directory?
[05:09] <nickrud> kmg not sure then. can you read it as root?
[05:09] <KyleK> I cant get my wireless to work otherwise I'd be all over it
[05:09] <cdm10> Arky44: hit alt-f2, type that in, and run it, and you should be able to upgrade.
[05:09] <suprie> Invert314, just type mount
[05:09] <stroyan> Invert314:  You do need to stop or relocate processes using mount points.  You can use lsof to see what processes use each mount point.
[05:10] <kmg> nickrud: yes, i can.
[05:10] <cdm10> Arky44: just be forewarned: everyone is trying to upgrade, and will be for the next few days, so the servers are going to be dead slow.
[05:10] <phishie> i cannot wait for hardy's release man
[05:10] <phishie> whooooooooo
[05:10] <nickrud> kmg and, your user needs to be in the cdrom group
[05:10] <Falkman> :\ Depressing lol
[05:10] <r0b> what time will hardy be ready for download
[05:10] <cdm10> r0b: look at the topic.
[05:10] <MrSteve> Help !  --- I have ATI 9600 series All-In-Wonder AGP card.. It will do OpemGL uner MS.. XpPro.. Everything was fine until I used the Restricted driver from Ubuntu.. Now the Monitor is 640x480 LowResolution only.
[05:10] <Invert314> ty suprie
[05:10] <twistage> Will the gnome upgrade screw up my theme/wallpaper etc. etc.
[05:11] <nickrud> kmg you can check that by typing   groups   in the terminal. If it isn't,   sudo adduser <user> cdrom, log out and log back in (the logging is required)
[05:11] <kmg> nickrud: when I do 'groups box' (my username) cdrom is in there
[05:11] <Invert314> mount shows that nothing is mounted to the directories i designated
[05:11] <MrSteve> twistage:  - back up before install
[05:11] <suprie> Invert314, yw
[05:11] <Macrend> at what will 8.10 be released?
[05:11] <twistage> MrSteve: With what? dd?
[05:11] <phishie> Macrend , read topic
[05:11] <nickrud> kmg what's the permissions on your scd?  . should be 660
[05:11] <MrSteve> twistage:  copy files, even
[05:12] <Macrend> oops
[05:12] <Macrend> sorry
[05:12] <phishie> lol
[05:12] <Macrend> bye
[05:12] <Invert314> stroyan: i think lsof is more than i need
[05:12] <cxo> Does the LTS version get gnome major cycle updates?
[05:12] <nickrud> cxo you mean gnome? no
[05:12] <MrSteve> no?
[05:12] <MrSteve> I gotta go get Gnome updates?
[05:13] <pragmaticpie> No luck with the Treo 650 yet.
[05:13] <maek> OMFG dling hardy now
[05:13] <kmg> nickrud: they're 660
[05:13] <patifa> MrSteve, you could shut off the restricted driver.
[05:13] <Invert314> suprie, stroyan: now check this out: ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo mount -t reiserfs /dev/sda6 /ubuntu6
[05:13] <Invert314> mount: /dev/sda6 already mounted or /ubuntu6 busy
[05:13] <cxo> eg 2.20 to 2.22
[05:13] <JPSman> does anyone know where I can get the windows drivers for a rt2500 card?
[05:13] <KyleK> hey what do I install for ndiswrapper modules on x86_64?
[05:13] <twistage> This is kind of a stupid question, but how do you use GParted when you can't unmount and edit the size of the partition it resides on?
[05:13] <nickrud> MrSteve a stable release is just that, serious bug and security releases. Most desktop users stay with the 6 month cycle, large institutions usually use the lts's
[05:13] <Invert314> suprie: how do i mount sda6 to /ubuntu6?
[05:13] <kmg> nickrud: I did sudo chmod 660 /dev/scd0 and no change
[05:13] <MrSteve> patifa:  I did that.. No Luck, so I re-activated the driver.. what is it flgrx?
[05:13] <cwillu> fglrx
[05:13] <nickrud> kmg no real clue then.
[05:13] <maek> JPSman look on manufacturers website
[05:13] <Invert314> oh hey nickrud, i remember you from a long time ago =D
[05:14] <KyleK> JPSman: manufacturer site usually works really easily
[05:14] <kmg> nickrud: =C
[05:14] <toby_1_kenobi> MrSteve: I suppose if you want gnome updates then you could keep up with the regular ubuntu releases and not hang on to the LTS
[05:14] <nickrud> Invert314 yeah, I've been doing this far too long ;)
[05:14] <suprie> Invert314, lsof | grep Ubuntu6
[05:14] <stroyan> Invert314:  But you say that "mount" alone does not report /ubuntu6 as mounted?
[05:14] <MatToufoutu> hi all
[05:14] <cxo> So LTS doesnt get gnome updates?
[05:14] <bullgard4> KyleK: In gnome-search-tool I choosed now explicitely the option 'Search for hidden files and backups'. Now in Gutsy it findds a hidden directory but in Hardy it does not.
[05:14] <JPSman> . . . . . . .  k
[05:14] <MrSteve> toby_1_kenobi:  - Ohhh they doig that too?
[05:14] <Ocenis64> bonjour :)
[05:14] <KyleK> ah
[05:14] <Invert314> stroyan: correct
[05:14]  * cxo damn they're too many convos in here
[05:14] <karllenz> ok removed newly added ram and pci wifi card no erros yet and ubuntu is booting
[05:15] <suprie> Invert314, you can see in /etc/mtab
[05:15] <maek> cxo it gets GNOME updates with every distribution updates
[05:15] <Invert314> suprie: ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ lsof | grep Ubuntu6
[05:15] <Invert314> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /cow
[05:15] <Invert314>       Output information may be incomplete.
[05:15] <MrSteve> I thought it got gnome with distro updates
[05:15] <stroyan> Invert314:  Do you get a similar complaint with mounting sda6 to a different directory?
[05:15] <nickrud> tmpfs cow?
[05:15] <maek> like hardy has a new version of GNOME to gusty cxo
[05:15] <toby_1_kenobi> MrSteve: it does
[05:15] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:16] <twistage> Anyone? advice on gparted
[05:16] <MatToufoutu> is hardy still released in usa ?
[05:16] <Falkman> Has anyone fixed 3945abg drivers on hardy?
[05:16] <MrSteve> unetbootin.. delighted me
[05:16] <Marfi> not yet
[05:16] <Invert314> stroyan: yes
[05:16] <stroyan> Invert314:  lsof will show what is in use and can't therefore be umounted.  It doesn't hint at what will prevent a mount.
[05:16] <MatToufoutu> Marfi, you were answering me ?
[05:16] <cxo> I want an distro that updates gnome without needing to reinstall a newer version of the OS
[05:17] <nickrud> MatToufoutu see topic
[05:17] <nickrud> cxo debian unstable
[05:17] <cxo> I mean, isnt it a bit weird to reinstall the OS, just to get an application update
[05:17] <megatog615> cxo: debian sid
[05:17] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:17] <AutoMatriX_> dweebgirl, sorry, lost connexion
[05:17] <mrkeishii> Whh
[05:17] <mrkeishii> ahh
[05:17] <Invert314> suprie: there are no traces of /ubuntu6 in my mtab file
[05:17] <mrkeishii> can't wait
[05:17] <Starnestommy> cxo: you'll still get bugfixes and security updates
[05:17] <mrkeishii> it is 12:17 right now in eastern side of US. I'm waiting for 8.04LTS
[05:18] <nickrud> cxo and you don't need to reinstall, you can upgrade from one release to the next over the net
[05:18] <MatToufoutu> nickrud, i know you dont know the exact time, but i just wanted to know if it was still released or not, and i've my answer, thank you ;)
[05:18] <quentusrex> if I'm creating a launcher to run a command in an xterm window. How do I get the window to stay open?
[05:18] <Invert314> stroyan: i tried mount sda6 to a different dir, but i get the same 'already mount'/'busy' message
[05:18] <stroyan> Invert314:  Are there any references to sda6, or possibly some alias of sda6 ?
[05:18] <twistage> mrkeishii: You didn't hear? They pushed it back
[05:18] <mrkeishii> till when
[05:18] <twistage> 2 weeks
[05:18] <mrkeishii> ahhhhhh
[05:18] <mrkeishii> y
[05:18] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:18] <mrkeishii> ?
[05:18] <nickrud> MatToufoutu thinking about turning that into a text replace: nh = No hardy yet, see topic ;p
[05:18] <cwillu> mrkeishii, every time you ask, they push back the release time two hours
[05:18] <twistage> Im just kidding
[05:18] <quentusrex> mrkeishii, I'm running Hardy right now... you want to wait....
[05:18] <dweebgirl> ok
[05:18] <phishie> lol
[05:18] <eckesicle> I have a pdf of slides of which I would like to print 4-6 slides per page in evince. Find no such options. Any way to do this fast?
[05:18]  * jgoo sticks a red hot poker up lenovos ass and warns everyone not to buy lenovo
[05:18] <anachronoks> did they really push back the release date?
[05:18] <bullgard4> Where am I supposed to store GNOME source code files?
[05:19] <mrkeishii> wow
[05:19] <twistage> No
[05:19] <quentusrex> Hardy isn't quiet fully ready to the spot light yet.
[05:19] <phishie> it's today man
[05:19] <mrkeishii> r u really sure they push it back
[05:19] <nickrud> bullgard4 best to do it in your home
[05:19] <quentusrex> :)
[05:19] <anachronoks> that's how rumors start...
[05:19] <quentusrex> haha
[05:19] <twistage> mrkeishii: Joke
[05:19] <mrkeishii> okay
[05:19] <cwillu> mrkeishii, read it for yourself in #ubuntu-release-party
[05:19] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:19] <Invert314> stroyan: none
[05:19] <asubedi> hey, how to disable command-not-found thing?
[05:19] <roocraig> what time will 8.04 final be released do you think?
[05:19] <cwillu> !hardy
[05:19] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[05:19] <bullgard4> nickrud: Why is that the best?
[05:19] <mrkeishii> Oh
[05:19] <cwillu> bah, they should really change that
[05:19] <mrkeishii> I read it sorry
[05:19] <MrSteve> (When they take RC off the Filename, I will get it.)
[05:19] <mrkeishii> about asking
[05:19] <cwillu> roocraig, read the motd
[05:20] <Falkman> wow
[05:20] <KyleK> oh i get it
[05:20] <nickrud> asubedi remove the package command-not-found
[05:20] <cwillu> '''No. we don't know exactly the time when 8.04 will be released.'''
[05:20] <KyleK> its midnight edt
[05:20] <cxo> nickrud, is that like fedora rawhide?
[05:20] <nickrud> bullgard4 easy compilation, since you already own it
[05:20] <Falkman> this is impossible, so many dependencies, just putting me backwards into more errors
[05:20] <KyleK> can someone change the botthing to specify PDT?
[05:20] <nickrud> cxo sorta, but much better imho
[05:20] <bullgard4> nickrud: Ah, ok. Thank you very much.
[05:20] <suprie> Invert314, have you tried without -t options
[05:20] <suprie> ?
[05:20] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:21] <Invert314> suprie: i'll try that now
[05:21] <JPSman> how can I find out what RaLink driver ubuntu used when packaging hardy?
[05:21] <phishie> Intrepid Ibex is the next version after Hardy.
[05:21] <phishie> sounds really cool
[05:21] <twistage> How do you modify partition size and create new with GParted when you can't unmount the drive it resides on?
[05:21] <rullie> so is hardy out?
[05:21] <nickrud> twistage use a live cd
[05:21] <roocraig> I have a add/remove error-please give me some advice as to what I should do: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64184/    I tried to install a ppd driver for a brother mfc-I did so incorrectly and I get this error after I install my other applications-I am a newbie so any clear help is appreciated :)
[05:21] <AutoMatriX_> phishie, I thaught it was hairy hardon ?
[05:22] <phishie> not yet rullie
[05:22] <rullie> phishis, suppose to be today right?
[05:22] <phishie> today's release is Hardy Heron
[05:22] <anachronoks> i'm going to try to install ubuntu 8 on a separate partition than 7.10, think i should use wubi?
[05:22] <phishie> I'm saying the version after
[05:22] <Invert314> suprie: without -t options, the prompt says that sda looks like swap space lolol
[05:22] <PyChild> it is
[05:22] <bradlis7> what timezone is ubuntu coming out on?
[05:22] <suprie> Invert314, lol
[05:22] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:23] <AutoMatriX_> phishie, sorry, misplaced joke, I use hardy since Alpha3 ;)
[05:23] <eckesicle> lp has option number_up
[05:23] <Invert314> sda6*
[05:23] <nickrud> roocraig in /var/lib/dpkg/info/cupswrappermfc7820n.postinst , put exit 0   after the line set -e if it exists, otherwise on line 2
[05:23] <phishie> AutoMatriX_ =)
[05:24] <AutoMatriX_> phishie, sorry, could'nt leave that ;)
[05:24] <nickrud> roocraig and _immediately_ after that run sudo apt-get remove --purge cupswrappermfc7820n , then sud apt-get -f install
[05:24] <Falkman> bye bye hardy! I will never miss you!
[05:24] <karllenz> what if ubuntu only boots when in fail safe gnome desktop?
[05:25] <bradlis7> does anyone know what timezone hardy is going to be released at midnight in? i'm surprised it didn't come out in greenwich, or at least america-east
[05:25] <nickrud> karllenz if you get to that, it's booting in the normal mode, just the X server is not starting. What kind of video card do you have?
[05:25] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:25] <karllenz> on board
[05:25] <karllenz> via i believe
[05:25] <nickrud> karllenz need to know exactly
[05:25] <nickrud> karllenz   lspci | grep -i vga  in a terminal will tell you
[05:25] <mrkeishii> Maggie Q is hot
[05:26] <chibi_killstick> does anyone know how to deal with this error: undefined symbol: cairo_xlib_surface_create
[05:26] <karllenz> ok i just got and error sayin OAFIID:GNOME_FASTusERSWITCHAPPLET
[05:26] <karllenz> encountered problem loading
[05:26] <chibi_killstick> it seems to be an error with  /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[05:26] <stroyan> Invert314:  You can use "sudo parted /dev/sda print" to look for that reiserfs filesystem you thought you made.
[05:26] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:26] <rryan> Anyone know what time today 8.04 is being released?
[05:26] <dweebgirl> Automatrix, did you get it
[05:26] <tricid> ./topic
[05:27] <rryan> tricid : doh.. sry
[05:27] <karllenz> it says s3 unichrome
[05:27] <dweebgirl> did you get the nokia forum website?
[05:27] <karllenz> made by VIA
[05:27] <tricid> np
[05:27] <karllenz> VT8378
[05:27] <Qster> anyone know the command  to open the resollution ive somehow gotten mine stuck on 320 and cant see anything
[05:27] <Invert314> stroyan: ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo parted /dev/sda print
[05:27] <Invert314> Error: Can't have overlapping partitions.
[05:27] <nickrud> karllenz tell it to unload the applet
[05:27]  * bradlis7 wants hardy
[05:28] <karllenz> i hit ignor it wanted to delet
[05:28]  * CyanFlux wants hardy too
[05:28] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:28] <stroyan> Invert314:  That disk is looking very mistreated.
[05:28] <dweebgirl> http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/platforms/maemo/index.html
[05:28] <KyleK> kmg: permission denied for mounting or reading?
[05:29] <kmg> KyleK: reading
[05:29] <KyleK> ah
[05:29] <nickrud> karllenz not sure what driver provides support for that chip, try googling  ubuntu via vt8378
[05:29] <Invert314> stroyan: damn
[05:29] <karllenz> ok
[05:29] <KyleK> kmg: a) look at the permissions and uh ask somebody else or b) add in umask=022 :)
[05:29] <Explo> Does anyone know how to keep GDM from running when Ubuntu boots?
[05:29] <Qster> anyone kow a way to get my resolution out for 320 lol.. cant see anything and cant geto menu where i changed it
[05:29] <redwyrm> how can I see a list of installed packages sorted by installation date?
[05:30] <nickrud> !who | karllenz (you'll need to do this, especially starting tomorrow ;)
[05:30] <ubotu> karllenz (you'll need to do this, especially starting tomorrow ;): As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:30] <fserve> Qster, try ctrl + alt + '+'
[05:30] <karllenz> ubotu: ok
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <eZe> hm, use !tab ?
[05:30] <karllenz> ubotu: im new wit irc
[05:30] <zylstra555> Hello. When I run CUPSYS in the browser, I get this error: E [23/Apr/2008:21:27:35 -0700] cupsdCloseClient: Error in the push function. What does it mean and how do I fix it?
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about im new wit irc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <kmg> KyleK: which permissions?  and I'll try the umask.  also, different DVD works
[05:30] <fserve> redwyrm, try synaptic
[05:30] <eZe> !tab o.O
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tab o.o - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <brent113> ok: kind of a complicated setup: removed nvidia-glx-new and installed the newest driver off nvidia's website.  Now I'm having trouble enabling compiz fusion, it wants the nvidia-glx-new package i'm assuming
[05:31] <Explo> Does anyone know how to keep GDM from running when Ubuntu boots?
[05:31] <redwyrm> fserve, thanks. I'll look into it
[05:31] <xanax`> is it out ? is it available somewhere ?
[05:31] <KyleK> kmg: oh also maybe your user cant use the mount point
[05:31] <stroyan> Explo:  You can run "sudo services-admin" and uncheck "Graphical login manager"
[05:31] <eZe>  please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab) <- i don't think that's supposed to say !tab
[05:31] <KyleK> linux is silly with permissions that they no longer phase me
[05:31] <Explo> stroyan: I'll try that
[05:32] <brent113> anyone wanna help me turn on compiz?
[05:32] <nickrud> karllenz welcome then. There's only a few things you'll need to know, you'll pick them up as you go
[05:32] <kmg> KyleK: user can't use the mount point?
[05:32] <xanax`> is v8.04 out ? is it available somewhere ?
[05:33] <nickrud> xanax` see /topic
[05:33] <karllenz> nickrud: thanx
[05:33] <brent113> hey nikrud
[05:33] <karllenz> nickrud: do u thin the s3 driver will work
[05:33] <nickrud> brent113 hey.
[05:33] <KyleK> hmmmmm
[05:33] <Qster> anyone know console command to open resolution settings?
[05:33] <karllenz> wit my  via vt8378
[05:33] <milly1234> well, I am going to attempt and recompile this kernel in an attempt to get to video input devices working at once
[05:34] <xanax`> ok, thanks nickrud. (but it could have been released discretely on a FTP mirror.. ;-p )
[05:34] <gramm> can i ask hardy questions in here yet?
[05:34] <nickrud> karllenz my guess would be xserver-xorg-video-via  or  -unichrome , but I don't have any experience with via chips
[05:34] <nickrud> gramm not yet.
[05:35] <milly1234> two video devices I mean
[05:35] <stroyan> Qster:  gnome-display-properties
[05:35] <karllenz> nickrud: that did the trick
[05:35] <karllenz> nickrud:  the s3 driver
[05:35] <nickrud> karllenz ah good ;)
[05:35] <pikeshouse88> so far off is the final release? hours, minutes?
[05:35] <karllenz> nickrud: im proud lol i figuered something out
[05:35] <pikeshouse88> ^how
[05:35] <brent113> nickrud, wanna help me out with my compiz problem real quick?
[05:35] <stroyan> Qster:  Sometimes xrandr works better.
[05:36] <Invert314> stroyan, suprie: here is my forum post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&page=31
[05:36] <nickrud> !sudo | roocraig
[05:36] <ubotu> roocraig: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[05:36] <thiebaude> bbl, i have updates on my 8.04
[05:36]  * Invert314 = Drone4four
[05:36] <karllenz> now i see hardy is out ima hafta reinstall everything again
[05:36] <shadow420> 8.04 is released
[05:36] <xanax`> shadow420 : where ?
[05:36] <karllenz> damnit
[05:36] <nickrud> brent113 if it's real simple, I used compiz some but I'm back to metacity.
[05:37] <shadow420> xanax just order the free cd
[05:37] <nickrud> karllenz no, just wait till hardy is released. Your ubuntu will offer to upgrade without reinstalling
[05:37] <xanax`> hmm.. I want to download the iso
[05:38] <supersako> is it released?
[05:38] <Dynamite> no
[05:38]  * rryan shakes
[05:38] <karllenz> nickrud: im new to linux and ubuntu should i wait before doing any updates as well??
[05:39] <brent113> nickrud: haha, yea my problem is enabling it.  I installed the nvidia driver using the .run from their site, and the appearance tab won't let me enable effects, saying I need to enable it from the restricted driver manager
[05:39] <nickrud> karllenz no, you should be totally up to date before upgrading to the next release. Actually, the upgrade will ensure you're up to date before it begins
[05:39] <karllenz> nickrud: o ok
[05:39] <karllenz> apt-get update
[05:39] <Geoffrey2> or, just download the ISO, burn it to CD, and install
[05:39] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, how's it going tonight?
[05:39] <nickrud> brent113 ah. that's not a compiz problem, that's a video driver problem. ATI I'd take a stab at, but I haven't owned an nvidia in years
[05:39] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x quickly :)
[05:40] <brent113> nickrud: ah, well thanks anyways
[05:40] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, that good, eh?
[05:40] <mrwislr> can someone please help me
[05:40] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x if people wouldn't keep asking about the release, the scroll would be about a third ;)
[05:41] <Qster> !stroyan thanks! oh thank god thank you
[05:41] <mrwislr> i need to test registering on a new site
[05:41] <bullgard4> How can I add a switch to gnome-search-tool so that it will find hidden files and backups also? ('man gnome-search-tool' did not enlighten me.)
[05:42] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, so true.  If all else fails... just keep repeating the name of the channel with the release party.
[05:42] <gramm> hi, im installing hardy (yeah, i know, not supported yet, etc).  ubiquity seems to be stalling after importing documents and settings.  help please?
[05:42] <Acoustyk> has anyone gotten 3d gnu chess to work?
[05:42] <milly1234> maybe I can have more then one video input device in the new ubuntu, instead of me just trying to fix my 7.10 install
[05:42] <ross`> excuse me, can i get ubuntu for my palm? palm V 5?
[05:42] <Geoffrey2> well, how about changing the topic to No, we DON'T know when 8.04 will be released. :)
[05:42] <mrwislr> anyone help me test registering?
[05:42] <zylstra555> Hello. When I run CUPSYS in the browser, I get this error: E [23/Apr/2008:21:27:35 -0700] cupsdCloseClient: Error in the push function. What does it mean and how do I fix it?
[05:43] <Acoustyk> has anyone gotten gnu chess 3D to work?
[05:43] <frank_b> question: who should I complain to about a bar in the left of every maximized window in ubuntu? (whether I am using firefox or an application) the gnome people?
[05:43] <nickrud> frank_b have you tried a different theme
[05:44] <mrwislr> anyone?
[05:44] <karllenz> what does this do dpkg --configure -a
[05:44] <DAC1138> can someone explain why openoffice has a patch (that's about 100+ mb) each week?
[05:44] <frank_b> nickrud, no, I guess I can try that, thanks
[05:44] <Mythril> Does anyone know of any project management software out there that currently has resource leveling working?
[05:44] <nickrud> frank_b might be the issue, but easily isn't
[05:45] <KeithWeisshar> when is ubuntu 8.04 coming out
[05:45] <tcpdumpgod> DAC1138, security fixes and functionality fixes
[05:45] <gramm> karllenz: i would like to second that question
[05:45] <nickrud> karllenz it tells the package management to run the install configuration steps for any packages that haven't finished configuring
[05:45] <ross`> excuse me, can i get ubuntu for my palm? palm V 5????
[05:46] <mrwislr> anyone able to do a quick registering?
[05:46]  * zylstra555 wonders how many people are not looking at the topic today
[05:46] <peepsalot> anyone know a way to use netflix "watch now" on Ubuntu w/ firefox?  I think a guy at my work was saying there is a way
[05:46] <fserve> KeithWeisshar, TODAY!
[05:46] <xanax`> only a very few people read channel topic after joining
[05:46] <Geoffrey2> ross`, I don't believe that's possible
[05:46] <gramm> zylstra555: about as many never look at the topic...
[05:46] <karllenz> nickrud: o ok
[05:46] <CyanFlux> zylstra555: when does ubuntu 8.04 come out?
[05:46] <isplicer> Guys, whens Hardy coming out?
[05:46] <ross`> Geoffrey2: can i get debian on my palm?
[05:47] <ross`> what would you uggest would be the best distro to put on my palm
[05:47] <isplicer> hardy should be out today right?
[05:47] <CyanFlux> :)
[05:47] <zylstra555> Were 2.5 hours away from the release now..
[05:47] <MrObvious> zylstra555: How did you get that time?
[05:47] <Dynamite> yes, today.
[05:47] <shadow420> 2.5 wow
[05:47] <frank_b> nickrud, no, you were right. it solved the problem. it's a petty though, since they're always changing the themes and getting rid of old good versions. I guess I'll have to look for one that pleases me more. thanks once again :)
[05:47] <Hikejinx> Wow, it's worse then a bunch of Star Wars geeks outside a new release
[05:47] <zylstra555> ...
[05:47] <zylstra555> www.ubuntu.com
[05:47] <zylstra555> "1 day away"
[05:48] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: then wouldnt it be better to just download openoffice from the main site and not worry about having to get the debs from the ubuntu servers, since they're so buggy and holey?
[05:48] <Geoffrey2> ross`, you can't just take any old linux distro and install it on the Palm....you need a linux program specifically designed to work on it...the average linux distro is WAY to big to fit
[05:48] <CyanFlux> thats based off your computer's time
[05:48] <nickrud> frank_b I always do. I have a small screen so I use spifficity because it has very short title bars
[05:48] <zylstra555> CyanFlux: What time zone is the Ubuntu server in?
[05:48] <MrObvious> zylstra555: Here in Kansas it will be the 24th in 12 minutes. It doesn't mean it will be available then
[05:48] <MrObvious> .
[05:48] <tcpdumpgod> DAC1138, the .deb's from ubuntu are .deb made from the patches Openoffice puts out.
[05:48] <CaptainMorgan> update
[05:48] <CaptainMorgan> !upgrade
[05:48] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:48] <CaptainMorgan> !update
[05:48] <roocraig> Can anyone help a newbie with a sound issue?
[05:48] <CyanFlux> zylstra555: I believe its PDT
[05:48] <ross`> Geoffrey2: i realize that
[05:49] <Fdisk93> here in NC its 12:48 and it isnt out yet
[05:49] <CaptainMorgan> I checked the site and can't find it... is the new Ubuntu out yet ?
[05:49] <ross`> can you suggest a palm version of linux thats decent?
[05:49] <CaptainMorgan> ok
[05:49] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[05:49] <zylstra555> CyanFlux: Do you think the people in charge of Ubuntu are so excited (about to pee their pants) that they might actually hit the button at EXACTLY 12AM?
[05:49] <shadow420> roocraig whats your sound issue
[05:49] <Gang> Hi, when will 8.04 be released? What does "Coming Soon" exactly mean?
[05:49] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: ah, ok. well, it just gets frusturating when we have bandwidth caps here in australia and we have 500 updates to get to make a distro stable
[05:49] <MichaelLovesUbun> is there a ubuntu release party chat this time
[05:49] <twistage> MichaelLovesUbun: Yeah
[05:49] <KeithWeisshar> what time zone is ubuntu.com located in
[05:50] <CyanFlux> zylstra555: I was kidding when i asked you when it was to come out, considering the channel title and other people asking, etc
[05:50] <nickrud> MichaelLovesUbun see the /topic
[05:50] <twistage> MichaelLovesUbun: #ubuntu-release-party
[05:50] <Hikejinx> Coming soon means everyone comes here, doesn't read the topic, and asks the same questions over and over, preventing people with REAL questions from getting help
[05:50] <tcpdumpgod> DAC1138, are you talking about because you have multiple machines to update or because openoffice updates so often?
[05:50] <justnuts> wat!? release time is based on localtime .... not very il8n
[05:50] <MichaelLovesUbun> k im there
[05:50] <tcpdumpgod> DAC1138, are you using dapper or what?
[05:50] <zylstra555> CyanFlux: I know, but, its sure funny to watch the wave of reaction
[05:50]  * CyanFlux nods.
[05:50] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: been using gutsy for the longest time but gave up on doing updates about 3 months ago
[05:51] <tcpdumpgod> why DAC1138 ?
[05:51] <zylstra555> Why dont you get a server admin in here to automatically force invite everyone who asks to #ubuntu-party-release ... that would solve quite a few problems
[05:51] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: thought this new hardy release candidate would have improved the update thing, but it didnt.
[05:51] <frank_b> nickrud, yes, but in my case it was definitly the theme, since it only started when I had to choose a different one because the one I used to use doesn't come with ubuntu anymore
[05:51] <khaije1> yet?
[05:51] <CyanFlux> zylstra555: and yes, I do believe the people releasing it are are so excited they are about to pee their pants.
[05:51] <zylstra555> (yes, I realize there wouldent be a willing server admint..)
[05:51] <khaije1> err nm nm
[05:51] <Gang> Hikejinx, thanks for your explanation~
[05:51] <shadow420> I have Gutsy and Hardy Kubuntu beta
[05:51] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: updates are tedious and stupid when they update apps i don't even use, and even if it's for security purposes, i'd rather just deal with a broken system than spend my uptime downloading updates
[05:51] <Starnestommy> zylstra555: forced joins are impossible on this network's irc server software
[05:51] <tcpdumpgod> DAC1138, do you have "hardy" in your sources.list or "gutsy"?
[05:52] <zylstra555> Starnestommy: Aww... they are so fun as well
[05:52] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: it's all hardy now
[05:52] <shadow420> but I am dumping my entire linux HD and just have Hardy and I might get slackware for the hell of it
[05:53] <tcpdumpgod> How long have you had it like that DAC1138 ?
[05:53] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: installed the hardy beta and im not installing anything else, since ubuntu is the best (just tried openoffice 10.3, it's not to shabby, but not ubuntu)
[05:53] <fserve> 2.3 ?
[05:53] <tcpdumpgod> How long have you had it like that DAC1138 ?
[05:53] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: hardy repos? since i installed the hardy RC
[05:53] <frank_b> nickrud, or better saying, the window border to be more specific, since I usually customize the theme. thanks once again :)
[05:53] <nickrud> frank_b yw
[05:54] <tcpdumpgod> DAC1138, a week, two weeks, ?!
[05:54]  * zylstra555 over and out
[05:54] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: a day
[05:54] <tcpdumpgod> well hardy is a beta release and openoffice gets updated daily.
[05:54] <tcpdumpgod> thats probably what you're talking about.
[05:54] <nickrud> well jeez, DAC1138 what do you expect, installing a beta and not seeing constant updates?
[05:55] <tcpdumpgod> lol
[05:55] <shadow420> well once I get my free cd I am goig full Hardy and maybe another OS like React OS
[05:55] <DAC1138> nickrud: yeah, you missed my entire point: ubuntu has been having updates every week since i started using hoary (i think that's the first i used)
[05:55] <DAC1138> nickrud: and every week, there's a 100+ mb update for openoffice, and more updates for apps i dont even use
[05:56] <DAC1138> nickrud: and i used to do all those updates, until it started ending up getting rediculous
[05:56] <dholbach> ggood morning
[05:56] <VeN0mizer> morning
[05:56] <tawt> morning
[05:56] <twistage> top of the morning james
[05:56] <shadow420> heh
[05:56] <karllenz_> i cant find a doc on file sharing
[05:56]  * nickrud refuses to ask the burning question