[02:00] <duffman25> I imagine ubuntu devs included 0.8 because it's more mature
[02:00] <thoreauputic> linner: did anyone mention http://tuxfiles.org ? (I was afk)
[02:00] <thoreauputic> linner: that's another good cli site
[02:00] <linner> thoreauputic, no they didn't... i'll definitely check it out
[02:00] <linner> thoreauputic, thank you so much!
[02:01] <Earthen> I'm trying to apt-get install webmin, but it is asking for the install cd, how can i make it download the packages from the net
[02:01] <thoreauputic> linner: it's aimed at .. erm .. those who are new to the command line
[02:01] <thoreauputic> linner: but it's quite informative
[02:01] <linner> thoreauputic, exactly what I was looking for and what I wanted... :)
[02:01] <linner> thoreauputic, perfect!
[02:01] <onkarshinde> Earthen: comment out the CD line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:01] <Earthen> ok thanks
[02:02] <onkarshinde> Earthen: And then do apt-get first.
[02:02] <onkarshinde> sorry apt-get update
[02:02] <Earthen> will do
[02:02] <cvt> do you know how i can get Galaga game like the one that comes with knoppix?
[02:03] <thoreauputic> linner: when you feel like learning more about Ubuntu/Debian style package management and apt, install apt-howto (typing that as a command will open more than you wanted to know about apt-get, in a browser)
[02:03] <linner> thoreauputic, oh wow... this is such a seriously powerful platform
[02:03] <bimberi> cvt: there's a xgalaga package in the universe repository
[02:03] <onkarshinde> If I do dist-upgrade hoary to breezy using breezy CD will it install the packages that are supposed to be in breezy fresh install by default but weren't present in hoary (ex. evince, serpentine)
[02:03] <thoreauputic> linner: indeed
[02:04] <linner> thoreauputic, when the breezy distro is finalized, i'm wiping my windows and putting ubuntu on it
[02:04] <linner> I absolutely adore this platform
[02:04] <qt2|Tsubasa> new hoary packages i see...
[02:04] <thoreauputic> linner: great move :)
[02:04] <linner> thoreauputic, thank you!
[02:04] <goo> If i distupgrade to breezy using the network, wil it still install packages like evince and serpentine?
[02:05] <brownie17> hey thoreauputic , pm me?
[02:05] <thoreauputic> linner: my windows partition has been languishing unused and unloved since last year ;)
[02:05] <onkarshinde> linner: I already did it. Also since it won't make a difference to my dad as which OS he is using I have Ubuntu on his HP laptop.
[02:05] <thoreauputic> brownie17: what's it about?
[02:05] <linner> onkarshinde, I have a new Compaq V2000Z so hopefully it'll work too!
[02:06] <goo> onkarshinde: heh. My dad also runs Ubuntu - only way for him to get any support out of me..
[02:06] <brownie17> thoreauputic, a file extension problem i'm having. i'd prefer it if you pm'd me. please
[02:06] <linner> thoreauputic, i'm surprised you still ahve a windows partition with as much as you know
[02:06] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: I suppose he is asking for private message
[02:06] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: I suppose I understood that :)
[02:06] <linner> aftertaf, wb :)
[02:06] <thoreauputic> linner: I haven't used it for a *long* time
[02:06] <Somada141> Question : the dvd of ubuntu has both the install and live version of Ubuntu right?
[02:07] <linner> thoreauputic, so it sounds!
[02:07] <onkarshinde> goo: linner: I had lot of virus problems with my PC (Win XP). So I dumped Win altogether.
[02:07] <[A] ndy80> is it possible to have multiple email accounts under Evolution? I can add another acocunt but mail is all downloaded in the same folder... I'd like something like Thunderbird, with separate folder for each account. is it possible with evolution?
[02:07] <aftertaf> ;) linner
[02:07] <linner> onkarshinde, that absolutely what my goal is in the next three months.. to put it on all of my computers in our family
[02:07] <Somada141> Does it have more packages than the install cd? e.g video codecs , mpe codecs e.t.c???
[02:08] <goo> Is breezy available for preorder from shipit?
[02:08] <onkarshinde> goo: Not yet. Shipit is closed for now.
[02:08] <goo> ah. Too bad :)
[02:09] <linner> [A] ndy80, I'm not sure.  I haven't been using Evolution very long.  But I would think you would be able too as it's loosely based on Outlook.
[02:09] <goo> I am distributing Ubuntu CD's on my commuter train - all the phb's with laptops there is probably tired of me by now :)
[02:09] <GNU-GPL> lol
[02:09] <linner> goo, what a great idea!
[02:10] <leopold> how can i find out where my harddisk is located, like i dont know if its /dev/hda or /dev/hda1 etc
[02:10] <thoreauputic> leopold: sudo fdisk -l
[02:10] <onkarshinde> Someone was asking for a list of packages installed by default in breezy. Who was that?
[02:10] <aftertaf> leopold:  cat /etc/fstab
[02:10] <leopold> thx
[02:10] <linner> gosh it's 5:10a and I'm finally yawning... I should go nigh-night folks
[02:10] <cvt> how can i get permission to delete files?
[02:10] <Hoxzer`> problem guys
[02:10] <aftertaf> ohmy
[02:10] <goo> linner: Much better to give away proper pressed CD's than some homeburned stuff that looks like it'll haxx their machine on sight... :)
[02:10] <linner> thanks again for everyone's help... you guys/gals are the best :)
[02:10] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: won't work if they aren't in fstab
[02:11] <aftertaf> god morning linner ;)
[02:11] <cvt> i'm trying to delete some firefox search plugins.
[02:11] <linner> goo, that's very true!
[02:11] <Hoxzer`> :E still haven't found a way how to resize Ntsf partition
[02:11] <linner> aftertaf, it's not good yet! :)
[02:11] <linner> however, thanks for the well wishing ;)
[02:11] <linner> see ya'll later...
[02:11] <Hoxzer`> tried qtparted but seems like it doesn't regonsize the data of it :E
[02:11] <leopold> ubuntu doesnt recognize my second harddisk what can I do?
[02:12] <GNU-GPL> smack ubuntu
[02:12] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[02:12] <leopold> already did so
[02:12] <thoreauputic> leopold: does it have a filesystem on it?
[02:12] <leopold> yes theres windowsa on it
[02:12] <onkarshinde> leopold: Have you mounted it?
[02:12] <thoreauputic> leopold: what did  sudo fdisk -l say ? (*don't paste it)
[02:13] <leopold> it didnt say anything about my second harddisk
[02:14] <onkarshinde> leopold: try 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb'
[02:14] <thoreauputic> leopold: try sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc etc
[02:14] <thoreauputic> yup
[02:14] <fraser_> can anybody help me here? i downloaded the tar.gz of a fiel becasue the synaptic versino was outdated, and i don't know how to install it
[02:14] <delltony> tar xvzf tarballname
[02:15] <thoreauputic> fraser_: can you wait until October 13 for a newer version?
[02:15] <GNU-GPL> fraser_, it's not advisable to do so
[02:15] <delltony> then you can type ./configure in the dir
[02:15] <Master`> hi
[02:15] <delltony> then type make
[02:15] <Master`> i need help
[02:15] <delltony> then type checkinstall and it will make a deb file for you
[02:15] <fraser_> thoreauputic, it seems everything i want to do i have to wait for breezy
[02:15] <delltony> and install it so synaptic sees it
[02:15] <thoreauputic> fraser_: if you don't know how to compile, you might have trouble
[02:15] <GNU-GPL> delltony, horseshit..
[02:15] <fraser_> thoreauputic, will there be alot of bug fixes in the newer version?
[02:16] <delltony> how so?
[02:16] <delltony> do it all the time
[02:16] <delltony> and no need for cussin
[02:16] <thoreauputic> fraser_: what's wrong with the version you have?
[02:16] <fraser_> thoreauputic, your right, i most definaytly will ahve trouble. i have got no idea. i'll just wait
[02:16] <pl_ice> hi :)
[02:16] <fraser_> thoreauputic, well it is a plugin for rythmbox, and when i install the old one, rhythmbox just doesn't  work
[02:16] <onkarshinde> Does anyone know if modem-applet bug, which caused it to ask for root password, is fixed?
[02:17] <thoreauputic> GNU-GPL: 1. delltony was right 2. I won't put up with that kind of stuff
[02:17] <thoreauputic> fraser_: which plugin?
[02:17] <Master`> guys i wanna install ubuntu into my hd and make it my main os
[02:17] <fraser_> it's called rhythmbox - applet or something
[02:17] <Master`> can anbody help me
[02:18] <thoreauputic> fraser_: you need to be more precise so we can help
[02:18] <fraser_> thoreauputic, and when i run rhythmbox in terminal instead, it gives me a "segmentation fault" error
[02:18] <GNU-GPL> thoreauputic, yeah well... sorry to you too..
[02:18] <GNU-GPL> :)
[02:18] <onkarshinde> Master`: I don't suppose you need any help to do as simple thing as that
[02:18] <thoreauputic> GNU-GPL: OK :)
[02:18] <fraser_> "Rhythmbox Applet"
[02:18] <pl_ice> anyone tried gammu /gnokii ? with nokia phones?
[02:18] <thoreauputic> fraser_: you used synaptic to install it?
[02:18] <ahmetalsan> hi
[02:19] <fraser_> thoreauputic, yes
[02:19] <Somada141> is there a decent CD/DVD burning utility for ubuntu?
[02:19] <ahmetalsan> ice can u help me?
[02:19] <Master`> yes onkarshinde but i have the setup on my HD now , what's the next step to install it
[02:19] <Somada141> a nero-like one?
[02:19] <Master`> does it's works like windows installation
[02:19] <thoreauputic> fraser_: do any other sound apps work  now?
[02:19] <fraser_> thoreauputic, i'll check
[02:19] <ahmetalsan> who can help me with my ubutnu
[02:19] <onkarshinde> Master`: What do you mean by setup? ISO?
[02:20] <fraser_> thoreauputic, yes
[02:20] <fraser_> thoreauputic, they do
[02:20] <bimberi> Somada141: k3b is probably the closest to Nero among the Free packages
[02:20] <GNU-GPL> true!
[02:20] <GNU-GPL> :)
[02:20] <pef> hello !
[02:20] <Somada141> thanks
[02:20] <Somada141> can i find it at package.ubuntu?
[02:20] <thoreauputic> fraser_: does rhythmbox show any errors?
[02:20] <GNU-GPL> hello
[02:20] <cvt> linux is so much better than windows
[02:20] <BlueEagle> somada141: only if you search
[02:20] <thoreauputic> fraser_: or just segfaults?
[02:20] <cvt> i love it and i love you. :)
[02:20] <Somada141> ok
[02:20] <GNU-GPL> Somada141, it's there
[02:20] <fraser_> thoreauputic, no, only when run in the terminal, it just does the starting rhythmbox then doesnt start
[02:21] <Somada141> thnx
[02:21] <ahmetalsan> fraser can u help me pls?
[02:21] <cvt> i can't wait to show this to all my friends and neighbors.
[02:21] <thoreauputic> fraser_: I would uninstall the package that caused the trouble
[02:21] <pl_ice> ahmetalsan , with what?
[02:21] <Somada141> question : since k3b is for KDE will it play on ubuntu?
[02:21] <thoreauputic> fraser_:  sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>
[02:21] <ahmetalsan> pl_ice i want to install nvida drivers
[02:21] <fraser_> ahmetalsan: love to, but i'm a complete rookie, ask thoreauputic
[02:21] <ahmetalsan> but
[02:21] <fraser_> thoreauputic,  ok
[02:21] <leopold> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb did so it say a couple of stuff but nothing seems to be large enough for a 40GB harddisk theres one with Id: f   and System: W95 ERw. (LBA) could that be the winxp harddisk?
[02:22] <ahmetalsan> i cant exit my x server
[02:22] <onkarshinde> Somada141: Most probably on installing some additional libararies.
[02:22] <bimberi> Somada141: it will, but installing it brings in a lot of dependencies (QT libraries mostly)
[02:22] <thoreauputic> ahmetalsan: for what purpose?
[02:22] <pl_ice> ahmetalsan, i got ATI, did u have a look at forum topics?
[02:22] <onkarshinde> ahmetalsan: Press Ctrl+Alt+Baclapsce
[02:22] <Somada141> isn't there a similar burning program for gnome?
[02:22] <thoreauputic> ahmetalsan: do you need to do this to install something?
[02:22] <Somada141> nautilus is really poor
[02:22] <bimberi> Somada141: gnomebaker and graveman
[02:22] <onkarshinde> Somada141: I heard gnome-baker is good.
[02:23] <Somada141> i'll try that
[02:23] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: that will just restart gdm
[02:23] <delltony> thoreauputic my breezy upgrade borked on me not sure what happen i think the dist-upgrade got hung and caused a reboot before complete would you recommend putting theinstall cd in and then doing apt-cdrom add && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[02:23] <aftertaf> k3b pwns!
[02:23] <pl_ice> hey anyone uses nokia? :)
[02:23] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: Perhaps his X is hanged and he doesn't know what to do other than reboot. Lets wait for his reply.
[02:23] <deFrysk> aftertaf, serpentine pwns!
[02:23] <leopold> i cant find lilo.conf data
[02:24] <leopold> it should be in /etc/lilo.conf
[02:24] <leopold> but isnt
[02:24] <thoreauputic> delltony: hmm - tried running  sudo apt-get -f install?
[02:24] <fraser_> thoreauputic, yeah, it works without it. what is the deal with segmentation faults?
[02:24] <bimberi> leopold: ubuntu uses grub by default (unless you've installed lilo explicitly)
[02:24] <delltony> yeah well here is the deal
[02:24] <onkarshinde> leopold: Are you sure you have installed lilo? It might be grub bootloader
[02:24] <thoreauputic> fraser_: uaually a bug
[02:24] <thoreauputic> *usually
[02:24] <delltony> it hangs on checking battery state on bootup
[02:24] <ahmetalsan> ice how can i exit x ?
[02:24] <jroes> hi, does anyone know why Glade on my box doesn't get themed like the rest of the apps?
[02:25] <fraser_> thoreauputic, ok. so when breezy comes out the new version of the package might be on synaptic?
[02:25] <leopold> i just installed lilo by apt-get install lilo
[02:25] <deFrysk> ahmetalsan, init 2
[02:25] <Whistler> how do i view my cpu cooler rpm?
[02:25] <leopold> it seemed to have worked out
[02:25] <Whistler> in ubuntu
[02:25] <thoreauputic> ahmetalsan: be clear: do you need to kill X ? completely?
[02:25] <GNU-GPL> ahmetalsan, ctrl + alt + backspace
[02:25] <jroes> a bunch of other things have the old X interface instead of being themed
[02:25] <fraser_> thoreauputic, how often do they release a new version? correct me if i am istaken but there was warty warhog before this
[02:25] <onkarshinde> ahmetalsan: What do you mean by exiting? Logout or just kill X?
[02:25] <thoreauputic> fraser_: possible, don't know
[02:25] <ahmetalsan> kiiling x
[02:25] <deFrysk> init 2
[02:25] <ahmetalsan> i will intall video driver
[02:25] <thoreauputic> fraser_: every 6 months
[02:25] <GNU-GPL> or init 3
[02:26] <delltony> haha i love being the boss here today is gonna be fix my computer day :)
[02:26] <leopold> i need help :(
[02:26] <bimberi> leopold: ah, ok, well a "dpkg -L lilo" will list the files that were installed
[02:26] <thoreauputic> ahmetalsan: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[02:26] <ahmetalsan> ok thx i tring
[02:26] <fraser_> thoreauputic, really? i wish MS were that efficient. XP came out in (i think) 02. thats three years since the last, and the nest thing they are releasing is service pack 3 i hear. but that info is fairly unreliable
[02:27] <onkarshinde> fraser_: You are right, there was warty in last October, then hoary in this April and now Breezy in this October
[02:27] <fraser_> leopold: tell everyone what the problem is
[02:27] <thoreauputic> fraser_: MS are interested in lockin, not innovation
[02:27] <fraser_> onkarshinde, how long has ubuntu been around?
[02:27] <aftertaf> fraser_:  you'll have vista too.... which will be DRM hell and eye bloat candy
[02:27] <onkarshinde> fraser_: As far as I now warty was the first release.
[02:27] <thoreauputic> fraser_: last October ( warty)
[02:27] <aftertaf> fraser_:  since warty... and before that there was debian
[02:28] <GNU-GPL> fraser_, october 2004 first official release right/
[02:28] <GNU-GPL> ?
[02:28] <deFrysk> 04.10
[02:28] <deFrysk> oct 2004
[02:28] <onkarshinde> fraser_: Id you don't know this, 5.10 corresponds to 10 (October) 2005
[02:28] <GNU-GPL> i take that as a yes
[02:28] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[02:28] <fraser_> GNU-GPL, yeah
[02:28] <fraser_> GNU-GPL, haha sorry
[02:28] <fraser_> GNU-GPL, im slow today
[02:28] <leopold> ok: all i want is to make a bootloader (dont care if its lilo or grip) that gives me the possibility to choose between my main harddisk with OS Ubuntu and my second harddisc (prim slave) OS WinXP
[02:29] <leopold> *grup
[02:29] <GNU-GPL> hehe
[02:29] <aftertaf> leopold:  grub lets you...
[02:29] <aftertaf> both do, bu grub is installed by default.
[02:29] <thoreauputic> leopold: ah - windows doesn't like being on a slave hdd
[02:29] <leopold> how can i configure grup
[02:29] <aftertaf> you need to know which hd & partition your windows is on, then add it to grub config file
[02:29] <leopold> should i make the win harddisk master?
[02:29] <thoreauputic> leopold: you have to remap to fool brain dead windows
[02:30] <Whistler> i try to run armyops and i get Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual any ideas?
[02:30] <onkarshinde> leopold: For that you will need to know exact partition numbers on which you have installed both os. Then you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst accordingly.
[02:30] <aftertaf> thoreauputic:  when you change grub it does it itself, right?
[02:30] <thoreauputic> leopold: or swap your hard drive positions
[02:30] <leopold> i think win is /dev/hdb2
[02:30] <GranMaestro> I folks, just a general question to everybody reading. Is anybody here knowleadgeable about FireWire on Ubuntu-PPC and can be contacted?
[02:30] <fraser_> thoreauputic, you know, i probably spent about thirty hours all up trying to work out why i couldnt dual boot ubuntu on a primary master and XP on a primary slave. then i found out you can't do that
[02:30] <thoreauputic> fraser_: right
[02:30] <fraser_> thoreauputic, and i couldnt get to either, grub didnt work becasue it couldnt initialise XP, so i could only use LIVE
[02:31] <thoreauputic> fraser_: windows likes to pretend that only it exists
[02:31] <onkarshinde> GranMaestro: Can you tell what is problem? Is it related to FireWire only or Ubuntu also?
[02:31] <fraser_> thoreauputic, what can you do? Billy boy will do what will get him money
[02:31] <thoreauputic> it's a purely windows problem
[02:31] <rcdarkangel> windows will always exist in some shape or form
[02:31] <GranMaestro> onkarshinde: I am tryng to get a bootable Ubutnu-PPC install on an external FW drive
[02:32] <GranMaestro> onkarshinde: It's a known issue
[02:32] <thoreauputic> rcdarkangel: that's not what I was saying though :)
[02:32] <rcdarkangel> yes i do gather your point
[02:32] <fraser_> hopefully by the time i am thirty, windows will be abolished. as far as i can tell, the amount of windows users has actually dropped a bit
[02:32] <fraser_> compared to otehr os's
[02:32] <thoreauputic> rcdarkangel: ;)
[02:32] <aftertaf> fraser_:  hmmm  i am 30 ;)
[02:32] <fraser_> but i mgiht be wrong
[02:32] <GranMaestro> onkarshinde: nobody in the forums seems to have a consistent solution to it
[02:33] <fraser_> aftertaf: :) didn't mean to insult your age. im only 15 :)
[02:33] <aftertaf> hehe :)
[02:33] <leopold> what do i have to write in the menu.list for windows being on /dev/hdb2
[02:33] <fraser_> hahah
[02:33] <bimberi> fraser_: hmmm i was once 30 ;)
[02:33] <onkarshinde> fraser_: I will need to install windows again on my Ubuntu only PC just because my GF works on .NET
[02:33] <aftertaf> leopold:  in the menu list you 'll dee some stuff about windows... found it?
[02:33] <GranMaestro> onkarshinde: you lost me on this one, did you?
[02:33] <fraser_> onkarshinde, hahaha, women!
[02:34] <delltony> hmm anyone wanna take a tackle at why my laptop hangs at checking battery state?
[02:34] <delltony> is there a way to bypass this? is the x.org messed up not sure where to go at this point
[02:34] <fraser_> bimberi,  reminiscing the good old days, eh? meh, childhood's over rated. parental control is a damper on my life
[02:34] <leopold> there stands nothing about windows
[02:34] <aftertaf> leopold:  around line 35, #examples
[02:34] <bimberi> fraser_: :)
[02:34] <onkarshinde> GranMaestro: Yes. Sorry but I thoght it was some general question. I don't have tha much knowledge about FireWire or PPC.
[02:34] <pawdro> can anyone tell me repository where I can find the latest eclipse?
[02:34] <thoreauputic> leopold: it won't work
[02:34] <fraser_> delltony: there is a way to bypass it. try webmin, can aslo be done with "update-rc.d" but i think webmin is easier
[02:34] <leopold> ok found it
[02:34] <GNU-GPL> .
[02:35] <aftertaf> really thoreauputic ??? merde
[02:35] <leopold> why wont it work?
[02:35] <GranMaestro> onkarshinde: well, somebody has gotta know how. Just wonder how to find him :-D
[02:35] <aftertaf> wont it chainload?
[02:35] <fraser_> delltony: you can get webmin through "sudo apt-get install webmin" i think
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> does anyone know when i boot from my usb harddisk i get error saying cannot find /dev/sda1 ?
[02:35] <thoreauputic> leopold: windows needs to be on the first partition or you need to do ome gymnastics with the grub menu list to fool it
[02:35] <delltony> ok but what should i do at that point sorry never used webmin
[02:35] <jroes> hm. anyone know why I can't apt-get install mttcorefonts?  it tells me that it's not available, but is referred to by another package
[02:35] <leopold> windows is on a adifferent harddisk
[02:35] <Hoxzer> ERROR: $Bitmap file size doesn't match calculated size (3663056 != 3663072)
[02:36] <Hoxzer> :E
[02:36] <thoreauputic> win likes to be primary, and first
[02:36] <fraser_> wickedpuppy: is it bootable :)
[02:36] <rcdarkangel> excuse me but its time for a really stupid question
[02:36] <Hoxzer> ntfs resize
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> fraser_, it is
[02:36] <reiki_work> ok I'm back... no dog here at worrk (please hold the applause)
[02:36] <rcdarkangel> how do i exit emacs again?
[02:36] <onkarshinde> GranMaestro: That might be Josh Aas, who is Firefox developer for Mac. But don't know where to find him.
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> i got into grub
[02:36] <fraser_> rcdarkangel, no stupid question,s noly stupid people :). kidding
[02:36] <rcdarkangel> lol
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> rcdarkangel, c-x c-c
[02:36] <Nacked31> hi all, do someone see this http://naked.homeip.net ?
[02:36] <fraser_> Nacked31, what is that?
[02:37] <aftertaf> Nacked31:  you not serious??
[02:37] <Nacked31> yes i am.
[02:37] <GranMaestro> onkarshinde: well, thanks for that, better than nothing :-D
[02:37] <thoreauputic> jroes: you need the multiverse repo
[02:37] <fraser_> wickedpuppy: i am notoriously bad at setting up boot sequences and such. i am a GUI man! :)
[02:37] <Nacked31> i m test my server
[02:37] <leopold> this cant be so god dam hard
[02:37] <Hoxzer> hmm.... prooobleeem :E
[02:37] <thoreauputic> !tell jroes about repositories
[02:37] <jroes> I've got multiverse.
[02:37] <falbalae_> naked: nope
[02:37] <Somada141> is there a list or sth with the packages that are available on the ubutnu CD?
[02:37] <fraser_> Nacked31, better not be unsafe, im checking it for you
[02:37] <jroes> I think it's because I'm amd64 -- ?
[02:37] <delltony> dang it anyone wanna help pm me i'm open for ideas
[02:37] <aftertaf> leopold:  hmmm worked by just changing grub conf for me, but i think win is on hda ...
[02:37] <Hoxzer> if I mount it it will regonsize the storage size
[02:38] <Hoxzer> if I dont it will show its empty
[02:38] <thoreauputic> jroes: ah
[02:38] <jroes> besides, if I didn't have multiverse, it would just complain that it's not there...
[02:38] <thoreauputic> jroes: dunno - you may be right
[02:38] <aftertaf> Nacked31:  network timeout
[02:38] <falbalae_> nacked31: doesn't work for me.
[02:38] <thoreauputic> jroes: not necessarily
[02:38] <rcdarkangel> cool red dwarf is on  this day just keeps getting better
[02:38] <fraser_> Nacked31, it just seems to be taking far too long for a site that is working. keep trying :)
[02:38] <onkarshinde> Hoxzer: That's how it works. Any problem wioth that?
[02:38] <thoreauputic> jroes: if you are missing repos, that error can pop up
[02:39] <jroes> I have deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[02:39] <Nacked31> i have adsl but a very large one.
[02:39] <onkarshinde> Nacked31: Doesn't load anything
[02:39] <leopold> is there anyone with some time about 10min who can tell me step by step what to do to configure grup correctly and make it boot win+ubuntu
[02:39] <thoreauputic> jroes: whether msttcorefonts is available for amd64 I don't know
[02:39] <Hoxzer> Onkar: yeah, dont really want to lose data
[02:39] <Nacked31> i have adsl but NOT  a very large one.
[02:39] <Hoxzer> I want to make it Fat32 in two parts
[02:39] <onkarshinde> leopold: I can.
[02:39] <fraser_> nacked31: no way it is working if it took that long. even on dial-up i would expect slightly better results
[02:39] <aftertaf> leopold:  i put the right hd(,) partition, uncommented the lot, and saved
[02:39] <Hoxzer> first I make it 50% 50% fat and ntsf
[02:39] <Hoxzer> then I copy ntsf to fat
[02:40] <Hoxzer> and then I resize fat to 100%
[02:40] <Nacked31> perhaps firewall i will check
[02:40] <jroes> hm, there seem to be a lot of little bumps in the road to get things working on amd64, is there any way that I can help out with the process of getting all of this stuff working?
[02:40] <Nacked31> Thanks for your help
[02:40] <falbalae_> Nacked31: keep trying!
[02:40] <jroes> (as in, contribute CPU time to the community, a small amount of development...)
[02:40] <fraser_> Nacked31, no problem
[02:40] <aftertaf> Nacked31:  hehe open door n80 ;)
[02:40] <thoreauputic> jroes: bug reports i guess - or visit #ubuntu-motu and see if you can help with packaging
[02:40] <Nacked31> normaly it open
[02:40] <Nacked31> brb
[02:41] <reiki_work> I think when Breezy is released, I'll save off whatever I need from Hoary and do a fresh install. Wipe out some of my mistakes with Hoary :)
[02:41] <falbalae_> Nacked: do you have a router?
[02:41] <jroes> I was thinking by now someone had an entire mailing list and forums and maybe even channel dedicated to smoothing out amd64
[02:41] <fraser_> reiki_work, amen to that
[02:41] <thoreauputic> jroes: the MOTU would welcome any help they can get I think
[02:41] <onkarshinde> leopold: I am here to help you
[02:41] <fraser_> thoreauputic, what are the MOTU?
[02:42] <thoreauputic> !motu
[02:42] <ubotu> motu are the Masters of the Universe (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU)
[02:42] <falbalae_> Is it better for new ubunti to wait the next version?
[02:42] <leopold> is onkarshide a bot?
[02:42] <reiki_work> like He-Man?
[02:42] <thoreauputic> fraser_: responsible for community-supported packages
[02:42] <Somada141> which extension we are looking for when we want executables for Linux?
[02:42] <jroes> thanks thoreauputic
[02:42] <thoreauputic> no worries
[02:42] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:42] <onkarshinde> leopold: No I am not
[02:42] <fraser_> leopold, you should consider that if it is not working that it is a hardware setup problem, have you tried rearranging the master-slave issues?
[02:43] <fraser_> thoreauputic, ok
[02:43] <bimberi> hm, msttcorefonts is installable on all architectures
[02:43] <thoreauputic> Somada141: *nix doesn't care about suffixes
[02:43] <onkarshinde> Somada141: What do you mean exactly?
[02:43] <pl_ice>  any ones uses nokia or other ph with ubuntu? :>
[02:43] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: he means loke .exe
[02:43] <thoreauputic> *like
[02:43] <Somada141> i want to download Nedit but under linux it has 3 different files
[02:43] <onkarshinde> Got it
[02:43] <Somada141> same thing with different extensions
[02:43] <thoreauputic> Somada141: it's in the repos
[02:43] <Hoxzer> "then administer that environment without having to become a fully-fledged Linux geek."
[02:43] <Nacked31> http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:43] <thoreauputic> !info nedit
[02:43] <Hoxzer> like it was a bad thing :E
[02:43] <ubotu> nedit: (A powerful, customizable, Motif based text editor), section universe/editors, is optional. Version: 1:5.4-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 632 kB, Installed size: 1628 kB
[02:44] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> !avi
[02:44] <thoreauputic> Somada141: ^^^
[02:44] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, h4x0r2damh4x0r
[02:44] <falbalae_> Naked: working
[02:44] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> !mp3
[02:44] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[02:44] <Nacked31> ok
[02:44] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> !media
[02:44] <ubotu> h4x0r2damh4x0r: Wish i knew
[02:44] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> !avi
[02:44] <Nacked31> i think its me ddclient config.
[02:44] <thoreauputic> Somada141: don't just download random files - use the package manager
[02:45] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> how do i play AVI files?
[02:45] <Nacked31> thx
[02:45] <m0rphx> someone running breezy and using alexandria? It won't start: /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/gettext/locale_default.rb:12:in `require': no such file to load -- gettext/_locale (LoadError)
[02:45] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> i can't play mp3 files either on XMMS
[02:45] <Somada141> i don't have a connection back home where i installed ubuntu
[02:45] <onkarshinde> ubotu: avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:45] <ubotu> onkarshinde: okay
[02:45] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> how do ic close Xserver and install Nvidia Drivers
[02:45] <Nacked31> For mp3 there is a special package
[02:45] <bur[n] er> !tell h4x0r2damh4x0r about nvidia
[02:45] <onkarshinde> h4x0r2damh4x0r: Didn't you hear what the bot said? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:45] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> package name please?
[02:45] <bur[n] er> !tell h4x0r2damh4x0r about mp3
[02:46] <leopold> ok: all i want is to make a bootloader (dont care if its lilo or grip) that gives me the possibility to choose between my main harddisk with OS Ubuntu and my second harddisc (prim slave) OS WinXP...someone who can help me in private talk?
[02:46] <Nacked31> synaptic / search for xmms
[02:46] <onkarshinde> h4x0r2damh4x0r: For mp3 you need gstremer-mad
[02:46] <thoreauputic> Somada141: there is a .deb for nedit - you might be able to install that if the dependencies are OK
[02:46] <reiki_work> I just set up to rip CD to mp3 last night... follwed the directions... and it worked! :)  imagine that......
[02:46] <Somada141> ok
[02:46] <h4x0r2damh4x0r> play on XMMS?
[02:46] <thoreauputic> Somada141: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:46] <bur[n] er> onkarshinde: you can tell people about that stuff using ubotu ;)
[02:46] <bur[n] er> h4x0r2damh4x0r: read your msgs!!!
[02:47] <onkarshinde> bur[n] er: He didn't read ubotu's responses at all.
[02:47] <Somada141> Dumb Question : how can i make that grub boot loader make the WinXP partition the default one?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> Somada141: to see dependencies, run  apt-cache depends nedit
[02:47] <bur[n] er> onkarshinde: i know ;)  his fault ;)  ubotu pointing to the wiki is better than explaining it in irc though
[02:47] <bur[n] er> s/his/his or her
[02:47] <thoreauputic> Somada141: change the default in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:48] <Somada141> do i have to be root for that?
[02:48] <bur[n] er> Somada141: even better... use the "boot" system tool if you have it
[02:48] <reiki_work> Somada141: you can sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:48] <onkarshinde> Somada141: Yes you will need to be root for changing GRUB configuration
[02:48] <thoreauputic> Somada141: use e.g. sudo  gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:48] <ahmetalsan> thnx for exiting x server
[02:48] <bur[n] er> reiki_work: no Somada141 can't... gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:49] <ahmetalsan> but nvidia installer gives a error
[02:49] <Somada141> gksudo?
[02:49] <bur[n] er> a plain old sudo won't prompt for password unless run from terminal
[02:49] <bur[n] er> gksudo gives a gui prompt for password
[02:49] <ahmetalsan> it say ur linux need kernel source
[02:49] <rata> hi. I am new in ubuntu. Which repositories should i add to install the fast track plug in for gift ? (does apt-get.org packages work?)
[02:49] <thoreauputic> Somada141: gksudo is better, yes
[02:49] <reiki_work> ahhh... ok... I've used sudo gedit and got no errors, but gksudo may be safer
[02:49] <Somada141> ok thanks
[02:49] <bur[n] er> !tell rata about repositories
[02:50] <rata> bur[n] er, thanks :)
[02:50] <Nacked31> falbalea_: cant send you private mesage
[02:50] <delltony> is there not a way when running an install from the cd to skip the partion partion i tried going to install base but it still wants to partion i already have my drive partitioned and all with reiserfs and swap with data on it
[02:50] <thoreauputic> bur[n] er: running sudo gedit from a terminal works OK BTW
[02:50] <delltony> basically im wondering is if i can install without wiping the partition
[02:50] <reiki_work> yeah thats how I was starting it
[02:50] <bur[n] er> thoreauputic: from term yes... not via "alt+f2" or from gui
[02:50] <Somada141> what's the difference between sudo and gksudo?
[02:51] <ahmetalsan> thore nvidia installer gives error like kernel source couldnt find
[02:51] <bur[n] er> Somada141: gksudo is gui, sudo is not
[02:51] <onkarshinde> Somada141: One is commandline and other GUI
[02:51] <falbalae_> Nacked31: oh... okay.
[02:51] <thoreauputic> bur[n] er: erm - how would you run it from alt-F2? Is there a non-X gedit i don't know about?
[02:51] <falbalae_> Nacked31: should we go to the chat channel?
[02:51] <Somada141> so if i do gksudo while i am connected as a regular user i'll be able to alter the folders i could only when conencting as root?
[02:51] <thoreauputic> bur[n] er: ah sorry - you mean the run app thing
[02:52] <thoreauputic> bur[n] er: got it
[02:52] <rcdarkangel> Could i please ask a question?
[02:52] <Somada141> cool
[02:52] <bur[n] er> rcdarkangel: you just did
[02:52] <thoreauputic> Somada141: yes, but be careful
[02:52] <rcdarkangel> ooops
[02:52] <thoreauputic> Somada141: it's dangerous running as root, as you probably know
[02:53] <reiki_work> I'm at work and can't check this... when choosing an app from the menu, is there a right-click option to run as root? like... it would start with gksudo?
[02:53] <onkarshinde> Goodbye all good guys. I will return sometime tomorrow.
[02:53] <ahmetalsan> pls help i wrote my problem 2 more
[02:53] <Somada141> yap but when i want to install packages i have to throw them in /usr/local/bin as root
[02:53] <rcdarkangel> i have a user set up on apache on our webhosting server. This user is me. I need to change it so that the new domain i registered knows where my website is. Did i explain that right?
[02:53] <bur[n] er> delltony: you can... but you have to tell the installer where the / is
[02:53] <Nacked31> http://naked.homelinux.net my mistake
[02:53] <jroes> is there a way to tell whether an app uses gtk1 or the latest gtk?
[02:54] <bur[n] er> rcdarkangel: you host it yourself?
[02:54] <falbalae_> Works.
[02:54] <rcdarkangel> yes
[02:54] <thoreauputic> ahmetalsan: are you using the nvidia installer from their website? Don't
[02:54] <deFrysk> jroes, gtk1 is ugly and does not adjust to the theme settings
[02:54] <bur[n] er> rcdarkangel: you have to tell your nameservers where your host is
[02:54] <rcdarkangel> i run the servers for our company
[02:54] <thoreauputic> !tell ahmetalsan about nvidia
[02:54] <bur[n] er> jroes: what app?  might be better to just ask :)
[02:54] <Nacked31> i have to rember the good name. Yes i host it home
[02:54] <delltony> anyone?
[02:54] <falbalae_> nacked31: works. What about graphical support?!? :D
[02:55] <bur[n] er> rcdarkangel: you run dns servers?
[02:55] <rcdarkangel> yes
[02:55] <jroes> deFrysk: right, so then that's why Audacity and Glade look like crap?
[02:55] <bur[n] er> rcdarkangel: tell your registrar where your nameservers are
[02:55] <rcdarkangel> it knows
[02:55] <Nacked31> What is graphical support ?
[02:55] <rcdarkangel> i did not explain it right i dont think
[02:55] <deFrysk> jroes, guess so
[02:55] <bur[n] er> heh
[02:55] <jroes> deFrysk: these both don't have a normal gnome theme interface to theme.  but when I look at screenshots on each one's site, they look like they are themed properly...
[02:55] <sjmorgan> what's happened to the mplayer packages?
[02:55] <falbalae_> Nacked31: nothing.  Is there something like ctrl-alt-del? Please don't tell me that linux doesn't hang...
[02:57] <Somada141> kill
[02:57] <twibbler> rcdarkangel .... me thinks you need to change the named file ... which allows you to use a domain like www.ifitis.com and a subdomain like me.ifitis.com
[02:57] <deFrysk> killall
[02:57] <ahmetalsan> i m using nvidia driver on its web site
[02:58] <falbalae_> Should I write it in the console or what?
[02:58] <bur[n] er> falbalae_: if it's just X that hangs... ctrl+alt+backspace... otherwise hold the power button for 5 seconds + :)
[02:58] <Somada141> yap
[02:58] <thoreauputic> ahmetalsan: read the url ubotu sent you
[02:58] <arpu> hi @all i have installed toda breezy prewiev all works fine but what is the entry in the source list (apt) to get breezy-extrs working ? i need to install java  sun-j2sdk1.5_1
[02:58] <falbalae_> burner: thanks.
[02:58] <ahmetalsan> ok
[02:58] <bur[n] er> falbalae_: kill & killall will stop one process, but not a full on restart
[02:58] <Renski> Theres a preview of breezy out?
[02:59] <thoreauputic> Renski: yes
[02:59] <bur[n] er> Renski: no way? ;)
[02:59] <deFrysk> ! java
[02:59] <ubotu> somebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:59] <sjmorgan> does anybody know what happened to the mplayer packages?
[02:59] <rcdarkangel> all i need to do is change the current domain name to another one
[02:59] <Renski> ...
[02:59] <rcdarkangel> the user is already setup on the server
[02:59] <bur[n] er> rcdarkangel: change the hostname?
[02:59] <twibbler> rcdarkangel: I see not really an issue ... need to edit a few files ....
[02:59] <rcdarkangel> i think so yes
[02:59] <arpu> deFrysk: Add the hoary-extras repository  but i use breezy
[03:00] <BlueEagle> rcdarkangel: edit /etc/dnsdomainname to change the domain name.
[03:00] <rcdarkangel> yes but i am a noob
[03:00] <bur[n] er> rcdarkangel: are you using active directory or something
[03:00] <Somada141> i got nedit-Linuxlx86.tzr.bz2 from the official site but how do i install it?
[03:00] <Somada141> like i do with the packages?
[03:00] <thoreauputic> Somada141: NO - I told you where to look
[03:00] <thoreauputic> Somada141: pay attention please
[03:00] <Somada141> i did get the debs as well
[03:00] <deFrysk> arpu, u can use java of backports safely in breezy
[03:00] <bur[n] er> Somada141: just use synaptic
[03:00] <thoreauputic> Somada141: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:00] <aftertaf_> lol bur[n] er ... AD
[03:01] <Somada141>  i don't have a connection back home
[03:01] <deFrysk> arpu, at least it did on my box
[03:01] <thoreauputic> Somada141: don't use the tar.bz2 or whatever
[03:01] <thoreauputic> Somada141: use the deb
[03:01] <bur[n] er> Somada141: if you have the .deb... sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[03:01] <bur[n] er> (from term)
[03:01] <deFrysk> arpu, make sure to comment out the backport repo afer installeng java
[03:01] <Somada141> i got the debs from packages.ubuntu but there are a whole lot of dependacies and i don't know which are already installed and which do i nedd
[03:02] <Renski> Is it possible to install the breezy preview by apt?
[03:02] <thoreauputic> Somada141: dpkg -l | grep <packagename>
[03:02] <Somada141> are there any guides where i can learn all those commands?
[03:02] <bur[n] er> Somada141: that is where an internet connection comes in handy ;)  there's a command to show dependencies
[03:02] <thoreauputic> Somada141: if there's an installed deb it will show
[03:02] <Seveas> Renski, yes it is
[03:02] <Somada141> yap i know but i don't have the money for that right now
[03:02] <Renski> Seveas: how?
[03:02] <deFrysk> Renski, switch hoary to breezy in sources.list and comment out backports stuff
[03:02] <bur[n] er> Renski: yes... but please know what you're doing first... if you're a novice, wait till breezy is final
[03:02] <Seveas> Renski: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:03] <arpu> deFrysk: thx what is the url for the backports ?
[03:03] <Seveas> !backports
[03:03] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:03] <delltony> thoreauputic before i overwrite is there NO WAY to install breezy without formating the preexisting partition?
[03:03] <deFrysk> arpu, should be in the url ubotu provided
[03:03] <bur[n] er> Seveas: you're a master sed hacker ;)
[03:03] <deFrysk> ! backports
[03:03] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:03] <thoreauputic> delltony: what?
[03:03] <arpu> deFrysk: thanks !
[03:03] <delltony> my upgrade borked right
[03:03] <bur[n] er> Seveas: add that one line upgrade to ubotu?
[03:03] <thoreauputic> delltony: did you try  sudo apt-get -f install?
[03:03] <Misha130> wtf my friend mircop banned Oo
[03:04] <delltony> so i'm installing the thing from the cd
[03:04] <bur[n] er> might be nice to do !upgrade and get that
[03:04] <delltony> yeah its an issue with the x.org or something xserver is not starting
[03:04] <Jonf> Firefox 1.5.0 beta1 Out!!
[03:04] <deFrysk> arpu, I think java is in extras ?
[03:05] <Seveas> Jonf, big deal
[03:05] <Seveas> more important: very ugly security bug found in firefox (ALL versions)
[03:05] <bur[n] er> heh, the new firefox is a bit faster in back/forward, but nothing special
[03:05] <deFrysk> arpu this is the line you need : deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[03:05] <thoreauputic> OK time to go - have fun all!
[03:05] <Seveas> !upgrade
[03:05] <ubotu> One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:05] <bur[n] er> nice Seveas :)
[03:05] <Seveas> ubotu, has the old !upgrade as long as breezy isn't final
[03:05] <ubotu> Seveas: Are you smoking crack?
[03:05] <Renski> Jonf: any intresting changes?
[03:05] <deFrysk> Seveas, how geeky
[03:05] <duffman> want to write my second harddisk in Grub...its located in /dev/hdb2...what do i have to write in Grub? title Windows
[03:05] <duffman> rootnoverify (hd2,2)
[03:05] <duffman> chainloader +1  ?!?!?!?!
[03:06] <Seveas> ubotu, no, just regular pot :p
[03:06] <ubotu> Seveas: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:06] <Jonf> yeah, lots
[03:06] <Seveas> ubotu, yes
[03:06] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, seveas?
[03:06] <deFrysk> lol
[03:06] <bur[n] er> lol
[03:06] <Jonf> http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.5beta1.html
[03:06] <BlueEagle> Does anyone know if it's possoble to put nfs shares in Places-Network Servers?
[03:07] <deFrysk> ubotu, no
[03:07] <ubotu> deFrysk: Not a clue
[03:07] <deFrysk> exactly
[03:07] <hadi57> hi all, how to install opera on ubuntu?
[03:07] <Seveas> !no is <reply> Ahhh, too bad...
[03:07] <ubotu> Seveas: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:07] <bur[n] er> hadi57: hoary?
[03:07] <deFrysk> hadi57, there is a .deb available on the opera site , make sure to get the static
[03:07] <hadi57> sorry no experience with linux, still new!
[03:07] <Renski> Jonf: like what? it looks exactly the same at first glance.
[03:07] <Somada141> isn't there a decent printable guide to shell commands in order to learn how to use the terminal decently?
[03:08] <bur[n] er> hadi57: if it's hoary... listen to deFrysk
[03:08] <bur[n] er> if it's breezy... you gotta compile from source (i hope you're using hoary if you're new ;)
[03:08] <deFrysk> bur[n] er, it does not take on breezy ?
[03:09] <Jonf> I didnt install it yet, It just came out...
[03:09] <delltony> so i guess there answer to my question is no you can't install from the cd without wiping a partition
[03:09] <bur[n] er> deFrysk: not for me
[03:10] <bur[n] er> deFrysk: i was all excited with my free reg code... but it wouldn't install :\
[03:10] <deFrysk> bur[n] er, I had it up n running on breezy
[03:10] <bur[n] er> opera == fast fast fast
[03:10] <deFrysk> wierd
[03:10] <Jonf> but they say there are a lot of new changes, thats why they didnt name it 1.1 or 1,2...
[03:10] <deFrysk> opera is not my cuppa
[03:10] <aftertaf> !tell somada about cli
[03:10] <bur[n] er> i still prefer firefox and its extentions
[03:11] <Seveas> opera = crap crap crap, the thing does not even display the ubuntu website properly
[03:11] <Renski> Im just looking at the release notes, a few small features really.
[03:11] <BlueEagle> seveas: That tells you a bit more about the code that make up the ubuntu website doesn't it? :p
[03:11] <deFrysk> Seveas, or does that make the ubuntu website crap ???
[03:11] <aftertaf> a candidate for perm ban if ever there was one...
[03:11] <Seveas> BlueEagle, not at all
[03:13] <aftertaf> Seveas:  sorry thinking out loud (haxor)
[03:13] <aftertaf> mister leet speak !!
[03:13] <Seveas> hehe
[03:13] <aftertaf> ;)$
[03:14] <deFrysk> lol aftertaf
[03:18] <aftertaf> ok.. so is there a way to setup a router that will not be visible to the corporate LAN?
[03:19] <aftertaf> do i just block icmp redirect from the router?
[03:19] <thomerz> hi, sry its not an ubuntu question, but how do i change my nickserv password?
[03:19] <B|ueMat> Hey all, Ive been prompted for the followuing: "In order to build the VPN kernel module, you must have the
[03:19] <B|ueMat> kernel headers for the version of the kernel you are running." Where can I find these?
[03:20] <Lunar_Lamp> thomerz - /nickserv help - that will give you some info, but i think you want "link" - then you can link another nickname to the registered one
[03:20] <Jonf> When I try to run Steam with Wine, tells me that I need an Active X browser object. How can I download it and install it?
[03:20] <B|ueMat> Where do i find the kernel headers for the version of the kernel Im running?
[03:20] <DewDude> is it possible to upgrade from a CD or do you have to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade for the 5.10 breezy preview
[03:21] <Lunar_Lamp> thomerz - wait - ignore me there - misread what you asked for!
[03:21] <thomerz> Lunar_Lamp, i've already read this info, but i want to change my password for my nick i have at the moment
[03:21] <deFrysk> !upgrade
[03:21] <ubotu> One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:21] <harlok> hola?
[03:21] <DewDude> ugh
[03:21] <DewDude> i tried that
[03:21] <DewDude> i don't have the disk space
[03:21] <harlok> alguienk hable castellano?
[03:21] <Jonf> yo
[03:22] <Lunar_Lamp> thomerz: you need /msg nickserv set password
[03:22] <B|ueMat> Anyone help me out, i ran synaptic and there are a few kernel headers??
[03:22] <thomerz> ah thx
[03:22] <harlok> jonf tu sabes como se configure ua red wifi? es k no hay manera la cableada si conecta la wifi no se configurarla
[03:22] <deFrysk> harlok, sure
[03:22] <BlueEagle> b|uemat: Choose the one that coresponds to the kernel you are using.
[03:23] <BlueEagle> b|uemat: and 2.6.11 is rumoured to be broken so stick with 2.6.10 unless you're rolling your own.
[03:23] <BlueEagle> b|uemat: if you don't know which kernel you are using type uname -a on the command line
[03:24] <DewDude> bah
[03:24] <DewDude> how much disk space do i need to upgrade?
[03:24] <bur[n] er> DewDude: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade... you'll see how much it downloads and how much is used after install
[03:24] <HiddenWolf> DewDude, 700mb or more
[03:24] <deFrysk> DewDude, try apt-get clean
[03:25] <DewDude> doh
[03:25] <deFrysk> and then try
[03:25] <DewDude> cyz see, i tried that last night
[03:25] <DewDude> i changed my repositories to breezy
[03:25] <DewDude> and tried that, and it said i'm out of space
[03:25] <harlok> jonf y la clave wep?
[03:25] <deFrysk> DewDude, upgrade parts apt get clean and on to the next part
[03:25] <samu2> how are you supposed to deal with all the duplicate programs and stuff if you install a second or a third window manager on your system? just manually edit the menus or can you choose not to display gnome apps in kde and vice versa or something?
[03:26] <german> hi!!!
[03:26] <OCA|> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on free space (~30 gigs) on an external USB 2 drive. There is an existing partition table on that disk consisting of two NTFS partitions (the 30 gigs of free space are between them). When running the 5.0.4 installer, it shows all partitions on the internal drive of this machine (/dev/hda1), but shows no partitions under the external USB drive (/dev/sda). Does this mean there's a problem with the existing t
[03:26] <OCA|> able on /dev/sda?
[03:26] <harlok> el mio si, k lo pongo en hexadecimal en ese cuadro
[03:26] <harlok> entre comillas o algo?
[03:26] <deFrysk> harlok, agree
[03:27] <bur[n] er> OCA|: I'm guessing the installer just doesn't see USB drives as installable media
[03:27] <DewDude> that one line upgrade doesn't seem to do breezy
[03:27] <DewDude> or does it?
[03:27] <OCA|> bur[n] er: It allows me to select sda, and offers to write an entirely new partition table...
[03:27] <harlok> voy a desconectar el eth0 y pruebo el wifi a ver
[03:28] <harlok> gracias!
[03:28] <bur[n] er> OCA|: in that case... i'm guessing it can't read the partition table
[03:28] <Valentina_16age> i am a prostitute
[03:28] <bur[n] er> OCA|: try booting a livecd and using qtparted?
[03:28] <deFrysk> DewDude, if you lack space upgrade in bits to breezy
[03:28] <OCA|> bur[n] er: I'll do that now, thanks.
[03:28] <deFrysk> first x , then gnome , then kernel etc
[03:28] <bur[n] er> no guarantees ;)
[03:29] <OCA|> bur[n] er: There are no guarantees in life =)
[03:29] <deFrysk> DewDude, and to apt-get clean after every bit
[03:29] <DewDude> also, wouldn't: sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:29] <Valentina_16age> I suck it free
[03:29] <bimberi> !ops
[03:29] <ubotu> I heard ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[03:29] <DewDude> work better for breezy, rather than what you posted
[03:29] <DewDude> or, rather, the bot posted
[03:29] <Valentina_16age> rm -rf/
[03:30] <deFrysk> that line does the sources.list
[03:30] <bur[n] er> :)
[03:30] <bimberi> tks Seveas
[03:30] <DewDude> yeah....i basically need to change hoary to breezy, right?
[03:30] <deFrysk> DewDude, yup
[03:30] <DewDude> the line you posted to me earlier was wrong for that process
[03:31] <deFrysk> DewDude, then just do it manually
[03:31] <DewDude> heh, no, i figured out how to do it with one line
[03:31] <deFrysk> DewDude, also comment out the backports
[03:31] <DewDude> i was just saying, you might want to update it
[03:32] <Bad_Magic> anyone have any idea why im getting this with the kernel image update? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-386
[03:32] <DewDude> backports?
[03:32] <DewDude> you mean hoary stuff?
[03:32] <deFrysk> DewDude, if you have them
[03:32] <Bad_Magic> udpate just bugged me about it
[03:32] <Bad_Magic> hoary irl
[03:32] <deFrysk> DewDude, hoary backports stuff
[03:33] <DewDude> i'm basically replacing hoary with breezy
[03:33] <DewDude> i've got backups of the sources.list
[03:33] <deFrysk> DewDude, all backports stuff even
[03:33] <nitrocks> anyone have experience with configuring a tv tuner card to work?
[03:34] <deFrysk> DewDude, just start with the big ones like O
[03:34] <deFrysk> o
[03:34] <Jonf> Where I can download DirectX for linux?
[03:34] <deFrysk> Jonf, what ?
[03:34] <abarbaccia> nitrocks, yes
[03:34] <DewDude> Jonf: you don't.
[03:34] <abarbaccia> nitrocks, what card is it?
[03:34] <Jonf> deFrysk, Im trying to run Guild Wars with wine
[03:35] <DewDude> Jonf: probably not gonna happen
[03:35] <Jonf> deFrysk and is asking my to download Direct X....
[03:35] <BlueEagle> jonf: best hope would be winex or cedega.
[03:35] <Bad_Magic> good luck
[03:35] <Bad_Magic> =P
[03:35] <deFrysk> Jonf, u have to ask in #wine
[03:35] <DewDude> DeFrysk: ok, so i was on the right path, i just need to clear some HDD space to do a full upgrade
[03:35] <Jonf> BlueEagle is it free?
[03:36] <DewDude> umm
[03:36] <deFrysk> DewDude, yes but if you are low on space first do some parts like Oo and after apt-get clean and then continue
[03:36] <DewDude> well a) i don't know how to do parts
[03:36] <BlueEagle> jonf: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=3370
[03:36] <DewDude> b) i'm leaving soon and want to do a full upgrade in one swipe so that when i get home, hopefully, it'll be done
[03:36] <fsmw_> is there a problem with some repositories?
[03:37] <DewDude> if i do it in parts it'll be saturday night before i get a chance to finish it
[03:37] <deFrysk> no wont take that long
[03:37] <rcdarkangel> ok im back
[03:37] <deFrysk> how much space do you have ?
[03:37] <rcdarkangel> had to run down to work to grab the lap top ac
[03:38] <DewDude> deFrysk, it's gotta download 600 some megs of updates...that alone is going to consume about three hours
[03:38] <DewDude> cuz of my crappy connection
[03:38] <deFrysk> DewDude, first do an apt-get upgrade , without the dist-upgrade
[03:38] <deFrysk> it should do a fair chunk but not all
[03:39] <DewDude> ok
[03:39] <DewDude> well
[03:39] <E_III> good afternoon
[03:39] <deFrysk> and after its done apt-get dist-upgrade make sure to apt-get clean inbetween
[03:39] <deFrysk> and when done also apt-get clean
[03:39] <OCA|> bur[n] er: Running parted, when I try to list partitions or do a partition check, I get "No implimentation:Partition 3 isn't aligned to cylinder boundries...". Fdisk sees the partition structure of the drive fine, so does windows. Furthermore, the live distro automatically mounted both of the partitions read only and linked it to the desktop.
[03:39] <DewDude> ok
[03:40] <deFrysk> DewDude, good luck
[03:40] <DewDude> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2042
[03:40] <DewDude> what about those errors?
[03:40] <E_III> could someone point me to a beginner's guide for dumbass place ? i have just installed ubuntu & need to learn
[03:40] <DewDude> i got those trying to use the one line upgrade
[03:40] <yuacht> E_III, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuHowCome
[03:40] <E_III> Thank you very much
[03:40] <Bad_Magic> anyone have any idea why im getting this with the kernel image update? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-386
[03:40] <deFrysk> DewDude, you have to comment out the first line in sources.list, it referst to your cdrom
[03:41] <DewDude> ok
[03:41] <deFrysk> then again apt-get update
[03:41] <DewDude> i already started apt-get update
[03:42] <deFrysk> DewDude, after commenting it out update again to refresh the sources
[03:42] <bur[n] er> OCA|: can your re-write the partition table without making changes via linux fdisk?
[03:42] <DewDude> ok
[03:42] <pinucset> Hi, one little question please. I've 5.1 headsets and with ubuntu I only hear 2 speakers... Please help!
[03:42] <DewDude> then apt-get clean, apt-get upgrade, apt-get clean, apt-get dist-upgrade, apt-get clean and i should be upgraded to breezy?
[03:43] <imnes> When I install telnetd-ssl on breezy colony 4 the service isn't added to /etc/inetd.conf, anybody know how to manually configure it?
[03:43] <deFrysk> DewDude, should work
[03:43] <pinucset> is breezy uploadead???
[03:43] <deFrysk> and i hope you have enough space then
[03:43] <pinucset> (stable)
[03:43] <deFrysk> pinucset, nope
[03:43] <deFrysk> preview
[03:43] <pinucset> when will stable be released? :D
[03:44] <deFrysk> 05.10
[03:44] <DewDude> i love running unstabe test software
[03:44] <OCA|> bur[n] er: Hmm... it's failing with device or resource busy, and immediately the two mount points I unmounted before running fdisk re-appear on the desktop and the windows for them open.
[03:44] <DewDude> deFrysk, thanks for the help. I'm trying to learn ubuntu
[03:44] <DewDude> i'm not use to apt-get
[03:44] <DewDude> last time i ran it, i don't believe that was around
[03:45] <deFrysk> DewDude, get a larger hd ;)
[03:45] <DewDude> i mean, linux in general
[03:45] <pinucset> Hi, one little question please. I've 5.1 headsets and with ubuntu I only hear 2 speakers... Please help!
[03:45] <DewDude> deFrysk, yeah, i know
[03:45] <DewDude> i don't have any extras lying around
[03:45] <deFrysk> DewDude, ubuntu is one of the best distros around I think
[03:45] <imnes> pincuset what kind of sound card?
[03:45] <DewDude> and i don't want to invest too much into this system, as its not much of a system
[03:45] <pinucset> Nforce integrated
[03:45] <pinucset> :D
[03:45] <DewDude> 400mhz PPC G3
[03:45] <paulproteus> DewDude: It's been in Debian since 1997 or something, so clearly when you ran Linux before, you picked the wrong distro. ;)
[03:46] <imnes> I dunno I've got a audigy 2 and my 5.1 is working.
[03:46] <imnes> Have you gone into alsamixer you may find some switches / volume controls in there useful.
[03:46] <DewDude> perhaps
[03:46] <DewDude> i may have never used it
[03:46] <pinucset> imnes, whats dunno?
[03:46] <DewDude> i tried to learn on my own without any help, and that's been my mistake
[03:47] <deFrysk> DewDude, also do apt-get update after the first upgrade because new packages come in all the time in breezy
[03:47] <michaelf> ubuntu on powerpc works nice
[03:47] <OCA|> Seems like the moment fdisk calls ioctl, ubuntu is remounting those partitions. Any way for me to prevent that?
[03:47] <DewDude> dunno = don't know
[03:47] <imnes> sorry :)
[03:47] <DewDude> ok
[03:47] <DewDude> so it's like, probably daily upgrades?
[03:48] <DewDude> let me ask you this..what's the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade
[03:50] <deFrysk> DewDude, a dist-upgrade also installs new packages if dependencies require this , an upgrade only upgrades existing packages
[03:50] <DewDude> ahhh
[03:50] <twibbler> rcdarkangel: nice to see you back di you resolve the domain name ?.
[03:50] <DewDude> so hitting "mark all packages for upgrade" in synaptic is the same as running apt-get upgrade?
[03:51] <deFrysk> DewDude, smart-upgrade is dist-upgrade
[03:51] <DewDude> so i should run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade daily with breezy if i want to stay absolutely current?
[03:51] <deFrysk> I think anyway
[03:51] <DewDude> ok
[03:51] <deFrysk> DewDude, yes , but you will be notified in breezy with a warning
[03:51] <DewDude> ok
[03:51] <deFrysk> it has a notifier
[03:52] <DewDude> of new updates?
[03:52] <deFrysk> yes
[03:52] <DewDude> nice
[03:52] <deFrysk> but once breezy is stable only updates for security reasons wil be added so not many updates then ;)
[03:52] <DewDude> ok
[03:53] <rob^> you guys might want to see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes#preview
[03:53] <deFrysk> a stable breezy is a frozen breezy
[03:53] <rob^> err
[03:53] <DewDude> ahh
[03:53] <rob^> you guys might want to see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[03:53] <DewDude> i mean, quite honestly, if i break this system, it's not a big deal
[03:54] <DewDude> i've not got any data that i haven't backed up
[03:54] <deFrysk> DewDude, if you do as I say its unlikely to break
[03:54] <DewDude> ok
[03:54] <DewDude> appreciate the help

[03:55] <DewDude> hopefully it'll sink in and i'll remember
[03:55] <aftertaf> bye all, have a good weekend;)
[03:55] <yahalom> how do i execute a .bin file? sudo sh blah.bin?
[03:55] <DewDude> i've been meaning to learn linux since i got ahold of debian 1.3.1
[03:55] <deFrysk> yahalom, sh or ./
[03:55] <DewDude> like, years ago
[03:55] <twibbler> aftertaf: and you ....
[03:56] <deFrysk> yahalom, sometimes you have to chmod +x the bin file
[03:56] <yahalom> de
[03:56] <Somada141> what's the difference between the 4 different package categories?
[03:56] <deFrysk> DewDude, my first up and running distro was rh7.1
[03:57] <yahalom> deFrysk, that must be it cos it says cannot execute file
[03:57] <deFrysk> yahalom, chmod +x
[03:57] <DewDude> i've had up and running distros, i just never stuck with one
[03:57] <DewDude> i ran archlinux last year
[03:57] <DewDude> for a whole two months
[03:57] <bur[n] er> OCA|: ??
[03:57] <deFrysk> DewDude, got stuck to ubuntu with some slips to gentoo
[03:57] <bur[n] er> sorry
[03:58] <DewDude> oh, i tried gentoo on this beast
[03:58] <yahalom> deFrysk, cannot execute binary file whats that all about?
[03:58] <Jowi> hi all
[03:58] <DewDude> it didn't seem to like my PPC hardware
[03:58] <deFrysk> yahalom, what .binfile is it ?
[03:58] <OCA|> bur[n] er: Got fdisk to re-write the table, parted still doesnt' like it and the installer didn't see the partitions of sda again. Trying something totally off the wall, will let you know if it worked.
[03:58] <DewDude> then a mac user told me to try ubuntu....i was able to get it running that night
[03:58] <yahalom> deFrysk, hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:58] <pinucset> is there some music player like this for KDE (Amorak i think) for Ubuntu/Gnome?
[03:59] <deFrysk> yahalom, what is that ?
[03:59] <deFrysk> pinucset, rhythmbox
[03:59] <bur[n] er> OCA|: i really don't know... sorry
[03:59] <rcdarkangel> ok i have set up my hosting and i get: Forbidden
[03:59] <rcdarkangel> You don't have permission to access / on this server.
[03:59] <yahalom> deFrysk, half-life 2 dedicated server for linux
[03:59] <deFrysk> pinucset, its musicplayer in your menu
[04:00] <deFrysk> yahalom, sorry out of my league
[04:00] <yahalom> deFrysk, thanx man
[04:00] <OCA|> bur[n] er: Thanks anyway =) Do you know by chance if I tell it to erase /dev/sda if it'll give me the opportunity to manually partition afterwards?
[04:00] <Wedge^> hello
[04:00] <h17m4n> how do I force a make install?
[04:00] <Wedge^> is there a default root password when you install ubuntu?
[04:01] <OCA|> bur[n] er: 'cause I can backup the contents of that drive and put them back after an install if that's necissary.
[04:01] <deFrysk> Wedge^, ubuntu uses sudo
[04:01] <deFrysk> !sudo
[04:01] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:01] <bur[n] er> OCA|: you could try it... i'm not sure
[04:01] <deFrysk> Wedge^, so no root passwd
[04:01] <OCA|> BTW, off the wall solution didn't work
[04:01] <Wedge^> ok
[04:01] <Bad_Magic> anyone have any idea why im getting this with the kernel image update? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-386
[04:02] <Ali`G> is it possible to make a windows domain server on ubuntu?
[04:03] <Ng> Ali`G: yes, with samba3
[04:03] <Ali`G> is it hard to setup
[04:03] <imnes> telnetd-ssl package seems broken do I file a bug with ubuntu bugzilla, or debians?
[04:03] <bur[n] er> Ali`G: about as hard as it is on windows
[04:03] <Ng> Ali`G: it's not easy I have to say, but samba.org has an excellent HOWTO and Examples
[04:03] <Ng> bur[n] er: it's way harder than on windows!
[04:03] <the_hunter> hola ke tal amigos!!
[04:04] <Ali`G> Ng msg/pm
[04:04] <__filip_> what should i write in the /boot/grub/menu.lst if i whant to add win2k. win2k is in hda1
[04:05] <Ng> Ali`G: ?
[04:05] <Ali`G> NG: does that meen i can logon to any computer with the same username and it will work?
[04:05] <Ali`G> and it will have my desktop
[04:05] <Ng> Ali`G: any windows computer, yeah
[04:06] <Ng> although you can probably do it with linux clients too, I just never have
[04:06] <Ali`G> ok
[04:06] <imnes> heh, that's kinda rude, if you ask a question in #debian and mention you're using Ubuntu you get kicked :(
[04:06] <Ali`G> is it easier with windows nt or linux
[04:06] <Ali`G> to setup a domain controller
[04:07] <pinucset> somebody knows when ubuntu stable will be released :D???
[04:07] <deFrysk> __filip_, something like :
[04:07] <rcdarkangel> orbidden  You don't have permission to access / on this server.
[04:08] <deFrysk> title=Windows
[04:08] <deFrysk> rootnoverify (hd0,0)keactive
[04:08] <deFrysk> chainloader +1
[04:08] <__filip_> i have get help alrady in an pm
[04:08] <__filip_> thanx anyway
[04:08] <deFrysk> __filip_, those are the lines ;)
[04:08] <__filip_> must try it out now
[04:08] <imnes> pincuset: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar
[04:08] <deFrysk> almost anyway I see now hehe
[04:08] <imnes>  October 13th
[04:08] <imnes>
[04:08] <imnes>
[04:08] <imnes> Breezy: FinalRelease
[04:09] <deFrysk> imnes, I take that on a full moon ?
[04:09] <imnes> At least it's not a friday.
[04:11] <giard> anyone know offhand which wiki package wiki.ubuntu uses?
[04:11] <trygvebw> Hi
[04:12] <Sonny_Wertzik> i need read,WRITE,and execute permissions for everything in the operating system....perminiatly. How can i do this?
[04:12] <anyw> Is there anyone who has participed at the google summer of code here ?
[04:13] <rcdarkangel> i need some help with this: You don't have permission
[04:13] <rcdarkangel> You don't have permission to access / on this server.
[04:13] <deFrysk> Sonny_Wertzik, use linspire
[04:13] <Sonny_Wertzik> whats that?
[04:13] <trygvebw> Anybody used ircd-hybrid?
[04:13] <deFrysk> thats gives you what you want
[04:14] <trygvebw> Sonny_Wertzik: that's _terribly_ insecure.
[04:14] <Sonny_Wertzik> is it a command or a proggie?
[04:14] <trygvebw> Sonny_Wertzik: it's a distro
[04:14] <Sonny_Wertzik> oh heh
[04:14] <deFrysk> a bad one but hey its root by default
[04:14] <Bad_Magic> im sure you could just cd to root
[04:14] <Bad_Magic> and chmod down the tree
[04:14] <trygvebw> sudo -i
[04:14] <Bad_Magic> =x
[04:15] <imnes> Did ubuntu hoary use scsi emulation for CDs?  I used to be able to acces my CDs through a program in wine but not under breezy, I get an aspi error
[04:15] <Bad_Magic> why you would want to
[04:15] <Bad_Magic> is beyond me
[04:15] <Bad_Magic> =x
[04:15] <Sonny_Wertzik> sudo doesnt work...i need to take ownership
[04:15] <Bad_Magic> su
[04:15] <Bad_Magic> put in root password
[04:15] <Bad_Magic> voila
[04:15] <Bad_Magic> full access to everything
[04:15] <trygvebw> Bad_Magic: not in ubuntu ;)
[04:15] <deFrysk> imnes, scsi emulation is depriciated in 2.6x kernels
[04:15] <trygvebw> Sonny_Wertzik: log in as root then :)
[04:15] <Bad_Magic> or that
[04:15] <Bad_Magic> pardon me
[04:15] <Bad_Magic> su root
[04:15] <Bad_Magic> =P
[04:15] <trygvebw> or sudo -i
[04:16] <Sonny_Wertzik> i try but i cant get in
[04:16] <Bad_Magic> its not your same password
[04:16] <imnes> Why do you need read+write+exec on everything?
[04:16] <Bad_Magic> id assume its blank
[04:16] <Sonny_Wertzik> ill try su   with pw of root
[04:16] <Bad_Magic> since you didnt set it
[04:16] <Sonny_Wertzik> ?
[04:16] <trygvebw> yes, that's because your root account isn't activated
[04:16] <imnes> Some things won't allow that anyway.
[04:16] <deFrysk> Sonny_Wertzik, username passwd is your sudo passwd
[04:16] <trygvebw> type this in a console: "sudo passwd"
[04:16] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok
[04:16] <imnes> Or just "sudo su" ?
[04:16] <Sonny_Wertzik> 1 sec
[04:16] <trygvebw> imnes: not to activate the account
[04:17] <Bad_Magic> why would you have to do sudo passwd
[04:17] <Bad_Magic> it should prompt
[04:17] <Bad_Magic> oh wait
[04:17] <Bad_Magic> nm
[04:17] <trygvebw> he wants to activate the root account
[04:17] <trygvebw> to su to it
[04:17] <Bad_Magic> i get it
[04:17] <deFrysk> !crack
[04:17] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[04:17] <trygvebw> and log in to it ;)
[04:17] <Bad_Magic> =P
[04:17] <trygvebw> :)
[04:17] <Somada141> what's the difference between the 4 different package categories?
[04:17] <trygvebw> Anybody used ircd-hybrid?
[04:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok done i entered a new pw
[04:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> how do i log in
[04:18] <Bad_Magic> im using irssi for shell and xchat for xbased
[04:18] <steve__> ?
[04:18] <Bad_Magic> oh ircd
[04:18] <Bad_Magic> fuck me
[04:18] <Bad_Magic> ill shut up now
[04:18] <Bad_Magic> its early
[04:18] <Bad_Magic> =P
[04:18] <trygvebw> :)
[04:18] <Naked31> Howto to list the daemon that are in update-rc.d
[04:18] <trygvebw> Sonny_Wertzik: su - , or log in from gdm
[04:19] <Sonny_Wertzik> do i type "su" for name and my password ?
[04:19] <Bad_Magic> do su root
[04:19] <trygvebw> Naked31: ls /etc/init.d ?
[04:19] <Bad_Magic> and then it prompts for passwd
[04:19] <Bad_Magic> last i checked
[04:19] <trygvebw> no
[04:19] <trygvebw> he has activated the root account
[04:19] <trygvebw> and now i wants to log in to it in a proper way
[04:20] <trygvebw> bbl
[04:20] <Naked31> that list all that can be in rc.d
[04:20] <Ali`G> can i make a domain on windows xp
[04:20] <Sonny_Wertzik> ya the propper way
[04:20] <Bad_Magic> domains typically take windows server
[04:20] <Bad_Magic> i think
[04:20] <Bad_Magic> =)
[04:21] <Bad_Magic> its been awhile since ive done anything windows networking related
[04:21] <E_III> what the easiest way is to configure partitions in ubuntu ? i have a non formated partitions. please notice i'm a newbye
[04:21] <Sonny_Wertzik> i think u can but u need to install adminpak from the disc...if its on the disk
[04:21] <Bad_Magic> qparted
[04:21] <Sonny_Wertzik> not sure if its on the xp disk
[04:23] <Sonny_Wertzik> uhh....it needs to be the xp pro disk if anything
[04:23] <Sonny_Wertzik> not xp home heh
[04:24] <darklinuxer> hi
[04:24] <h17m4n> how do I change the chmod of a file?
[04:24] <Bad_Magic> man chmod
[04:24] <Bad_Magic> =)
[04:24] <darklinuxer> use the linux
[04:24] <darklinuxer> hi
[04:25] <darklinuxer> where for for linux game?
[04:25] <Ali`G> how long would it take to make a domain on ubuntu?
[04:25] <Fred|Fr3d> Ali`G: depends on what settings you want/need etc
[04:25] <Ali`G> just a basic one
[04:25] <Ali`G> just to use as a test
[04:26] <Naked31> 1 hour, if you know what to do
[04:26] <Naked31> 1 day if you have to learn
[04:26] <darklinuxer> hi
[04:26] <Ali`G> lol
[04:26] <darklinuxer> bye
[04:26] <Ali`G> do u know how to make them Naked31
[04:26] <darklinuxer> bye channel
[04:27] <h17m4n> how can I chmod the file /.wine/config
[04:27] <h17m4n> I can't access that freaking dir on terminal
[04:27] <pinucset> is there something like amarok (music player) for GNOME Ubuntu?
[04:27] <steve__> quit
[04:27] <steve__> exit
[04:27] <deFrysk>  /
[04:28] <Ali`G> sudo chmod +x /.wine/config
[04:28] <dwerf> what's breezy?
[04:28] <pinucset> the new ubuntu release :)
[04:28] <deFrysk> dwerf, a not so strong wind
[04:28] <dwerf> hahaha
[04:28] <Fred|Fr3d> deFrysk: LOL
[04:28] <h17m4n> grrrr..... wine is evil: chmod: cannot access `/.wine/config': No such file or directory
[04:28] <Fred|Fr3d> dwerf: its also the new RC1 of Ubuntu released the other day
[04:29] <dwerf> Fred > ok, so i don't have it yet!
[04:30] <Quinthius> h17m4n: are you sure it's /.wine and not ~/.wine ?
[04:30] <Fred|Fr3d> dwerf: nope u dont
[04:30] <h17m4n> Quinthius: I don't know
[04:30] <h17m4n> it's on chroot and I'm a noob
[04:31] <dwerf> Fred > but it's easily upgradeble?
[04:31] <h17m4n> so I just ran sudo konqueror
[04:31] <X7C> does lm_sensors stuff have to be configured on ubuntu or does it work by default?
[04:31] <h17m4n> and changed it from there
[04:31] <Pyf> im trying to open a rar file, its got rar, .r01 .r02 .r03 etc.... i cant get archive manager to open them though or ark.... suggestinos?
[04:31] <h17m4n> :)
[04:31] <X7C> casue mine doesn't work
[04:31] <[A] ndy80> one question: I installed Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 colony cd 4, now Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 Preview is out. How can I upgrade to this version?
[04:31] <DrewJ5> hey, im looking for some help with ubuntu and windows XP network... can anyone help?
[04:31] <Fred|Fr3d> dwerf: i dunno, i havnt tried. i'd try the liveCD before i installed it over my current install tho!
[04:31] <Quinthius> Pyf: install unrar-nonfree?
[04:31] <X7C> DrewJ5 hey, im looking for some help with ubuntu and windows XP network... can anyone help? << use samba
[04:32] <pitti> anyw: let's continue here
[04:32] <[A] ndy80> in particular: how can I enable the graphical boot (USplash)?
[04:32] <Quinthius> [A] ndy80: i THINK you just need to dist-upgrade... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[04:32] <pitti> anyw: he worked at a program to manage storage devices
[04:33] <KimHansen> I am having problems with my network connection after I have upgradet a hoary machine to breezy, I think it is some problem with capabilities and dhcp3-client. Is that a known problem?
[04:33] <pitti> anyw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StorageDeviceManager
[04:33] <pitti> anyw: he worked at it during the summer
[04:34] <Pyf> Quinthius: it still says... "annot find volume /home/sam/Desktop/TV/The.OC.S03E01-F4G/the.oc.301-F4G.r02"
[04:34] <h17m4n> when running WineSetupTk, do I have to add a c drive or what?
[04:34] <Pyf> which is there....
[04:34] <anyw> pitti, is it the only one ?
[04:34] <katzor> h17m4n, yes you can add a fake c drive there
[04:34] <Quinthius> Pyf: hmm, i don't know..
[04:35] <katzor> h17m4n, this will be where your windows proggies will install and live
[04:35] <Quinthius> Pyf: is all the upper-case and lower-case matching?
[04:35] <Naked31> http://naked.homelinux.net : does it work for you.
[04:35] <Naked31> Im testing
[04:35] <[A] ndy80> Quinthius: uhm.... doing a dist-upgrade told me that no upgrades are available....
[04:35] <h17m4n> should I make it this path: /chroot/home/derickr/.wine/drive_c
[04:36] <h17m4n> or remove the /chroot/ since i'm running wine on chroot?
[04:36] <katzor> h17m4n, well, if your home directory is in /chroot
[04:36] <katzor> oh
[04:36] <Quinthius> [A] ndy80: then maybe there isnt much difference between colony4 and preview until they have some time to fix more things :P
[04:36] <katzor> h17m4n, then leave the chroot there
[04:37] <Bad_Magic> anyone have any idea why im getting this with the kernel image update? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-386
[04:37] <pitti> anyw: certainly not, but I just know about the student I mentored
[04:37] <[A] ndy80> Quinthius: ok, but... how do I enable USplash :) ?
[04:38] <Pyf> Quinthius: ooh, thanks think that was what it was, i dont see why it owuld be named wrong though....
[04:38] <Quinthius> [A] ndy80: dont know, im not using breezy :P ... might install it today tho
[04:39] <[A] ndy80> ok, thanks anyway
[04:39] <katzor> [A] ndy80, you need to install the usplash package and do a 'dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-'uname -r''
[04:39] <katzor> with root
[04:39] <[A] ndy80> katzor: synaptic tell me that it's already installed
[04:40] <katzor> then just do the reconfigure
[04:42] <Quinthius> the quotes around uname should be ` btw ... the backquote... so: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[04:43] <anyw> pitti, last question, what award has he won ?
[04:43] <katzor> Quinthius, funny, i believe i pressed the right button...there's no difference if i press ' or ', which are on different keys
[04:43] <pitti> anyw: there is no special award - you get the bounty or not, and he got it
[04:44] <Quinthius> katzor: weird hehe
[04:44] <koch> hi, could someone help me with the active x controls for mozilla?
[04:44] <katzor> ah, i have to shift the ` :-)
[04:44] <Quinthius> katzor: are you on a non english keyboard?
[04:44] <katzor> yes
[04:44] <Quinthius> katzor: shift-` here gives ~ :)
[04:44] <[A] ndy80> Quinthius: no problem... I did: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.12-8-386 manually :)
[04:44] <katzor> i figured it out `
[04:45] <katzor> yay
[04:45] <[A] ndy80> anyway it tells me this: Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...
[04:45] <[A] ndy80> I don't know if it's related to GRUB
[04:45] <anyw> pitti, but what is it ?
[04:45] <[A] ndy80> or to USplash...
[04:45] <[A] ndy80> I've to reboot to know this :)
[04:45] <katzor> i get that too, usplash isnt a splash image
[04:45] <katzor> thats fine
[04:45] <[A] ndy80> ok.. I'm going to reboot now
[04:45] <[A] ndy80> see ya later!
[04:45] <[A] ndy80> and thanks for now!
[04:47] <Sonderblade> how do you do to install a different window manager?
[04:48] <Quinthius> Sonderblade: my guess is install it with apt-get :P ... then select it as your login session
[04:48] <nxvl> there is a bug in the hoary2breezy upgrade
[04:48] <erUSUL> Sonderblade, sudo apt-get install <windowmanager>
[04:49] <pinucset> is kde an example of windowmanager? isnt is?
[04:49] <Sonderblade> that simple?
[04:49] <katzor> pinucset, it contains one
[04:49] <Jowi> Sonderblade: most wm's also configures gdm so you have it in the dropdownlist when you log in. if it isn't there you will have to edit your .xsession file in your homedirectory.
[04:49] <Quinthius> kde is more than just a window manager
[04:49] <pinucset> ok! :)
[04:49] <pinucset> mm... do you know any review of gnome vs. kde? :D
[04:50] <Quinthius> pinucset: both are good, depends more on preference usually..
[04:50] <katzor> pinucset, you will only find flamewars on google
[04:50] <pinucset> cool, thanks :D
[04:50] <[A] ndy80> only one thing to say: IT WORKS!!!! :D
[04:50] <katzor> [A] ndy80, did it work?
[04:50] <katzor> yay
[04:51] <pinucset> yeaaaaaaaaaah :D
[04:51] <katzor> g2g
[04:51] <ploptor> hi
[04:51] <idab> how do i invite another person to start nultiple chat in gaim
[04:52] <trygvebw> How can i unblock port 6667?
[04:53] <trygvebw> Non-local users can't connect to me. :(
[04:53] <AlexanRO> w32codecs installed mplayer still won't play wmv files
[04:54] <idab> how do i invite another person to start nultiple chat in gaim
[04:54] <shinu> AlexanRO: did you do everything according to ubuntuguide?
[04:54] <AlexanRO> y
[04:54] <AlexanRO> first thing i checked
[04:55] <knelix> Hello!
[04:55] <AlexanRO> plays avi, mpeg but not wmv
[04:56] <shinu> AlexanRO: im a newbie too but from what i remember i reboot helped me, though im not sure ^^'
[04:56] <knelix> Hey guys. I'm building a new system-- a budget system, AMD. Trying to decide on CPU. Any recommendations?
[04:56] <Jowi> trygvebw: ubuntu has no firewall installed by default. if you are behind a router you should check the configuration for it (usually it is called "virtual server" or "port redirection" or something like that)
[04:57] <trygvebw> Jowi: thanks :)
[04:57] <trygvebw> ok
[04:57] <knelix> I'm looking at this page: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Manufactory=&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=517%3A7440&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&description=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&SubCategory=343&Submit=Property
[04:58] <Jowi> wow, the lenght of that link is impressive :-)
[04:58] <knelix> Anyone got suggestions as to which CPU would be best suited for Ubunto?
[04:58] <knelix> Yes, I know-- Sorry.
[04:58] <knelix> Would an AMD Duron 1.6 Applebred 266MHz FSB be enough to run Ubunto smoothly?
[05:00] <Jowi> knelix: yes it is enough for day-to-day use. no need to worry about that. I run Ubuntu on a 1Ghz smoothly. RAM is more important i would say. and a good video card.
[05:01] <hou5ton> i gave my system to my public relations person, and since I no longer need to run Adobe products, what are the odds of syncing my Treo 650 with an Ubuntu install?
[05:01] <knelix> I'm building on pretty tight budget. So, I'm thinking of 512 MB and going with integrated video for now.
[05:02] <Alos> hi everyone
[05:02] <knelix> Hello. :-)
[05:03] <Jowi> knelix: i have 512mb too. the system never touches the swap partition. my integrated graphics (unichrome cle266) works fine in 2d but lacks dri support needed for accelerated 3d. find out which chipset the video uses
[05:03] <Jowi> knelix: just be aware of that integrated graphics uses your RAM as video memory.
[05:04] <knelix> Right. True. I am thinking of getting this barebones: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856119002
[05:04] <Alos> question, i've a tecra 8000, when i install 4.10 i had not problem with my screen, no I have 504 and I have a poor resolution, I've tried to change but i juns only have 1 option 640x480, any idea
[05:06] <knelix> This is the manufacture's page: http://www.foxconnchannel.com/products_barebone.cfm?pName=TLM454R3M6-C350
[05:06] <knelix> As far as chipset it says "SiS 741 Northbridge" and "SiS 964 Southbridge"
[05:07] <hou5ton> If I'm doing a new install on a laptop, should I go ahead and do that Breezy Badger one, or the one that's been out a while?
[05:07] <knelix> But I don't see anything beyond "On-board VGA graphics controller" for graphics.
[05:07] <warrior> hows it going guys.  Quick question, anyone had a problem with resolution settings?  When I installed ubuntu my highest resolution was 1152x864 and I did all the other ones under it to be safe but when I booted I was in 1152x768 and after fglrxconfig I was in 1024x768.  Any suggestions?
[05:08] <hou5ton> If I'm doing a new install on a laptop, should I go ahead and do that Breezy Badger one, or the one that's been out a while?
[05:08] <warrior> hou5ton, just so you know Breezy is still under development so there could be issues.  Are you a newbie?
[05:08] <hou5ton> warrior:  yes
[05:09] <hou5ton> warrior:  for the most part
[05:09] <KimHansen> I have found a bug in dhcp3-client, where do I see if it allready in the bug tracking system?
[05:09] <olal> Where should I look for documentation to get my external monitor work with my laptop? (I have an ATI card in my laptop)
[05:09] <knelix> btw, I heard GNOME 2.12 is out. I guess it will come with the next release of Ubunto-- or will the current one be updated with it?
[05:09] <Bad_Magic> breezy isnt stable yet
[05:09] <Jowi> knelix: xorg seems to support SiS pretty ok. http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/CategoryHardware - here you can check what chipsets have DRI support
[05:09] <carthik> hou5ton, it's not out yet
[05:09] <warrior> hou5ton, then your safest bet is to go with Hoary.  Its really fast and the only true difference is the kernel version and software that comes with it
[05:09] <hou5ton> olal:  I was looking for the same thing a while back ... not gonna happen.
[05:10] <knelix> Wow.. disorienting disconnects!
[05:10] <carthik> warrior, i have had probs with resolution - usually fixed by having a knoppix cd around
[05:10] <knelix> Heh. I'm back now.
[05:10] <olal> hou5ton: are you sure? i mean the xorglog seems to detect both my outputs?
[05:10] <KimHansen> ah, it's in the /topic
[05:10] <Jowi> knelix: xorg seems to support SiS pretty ok. http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/CategoryHardware - here you can check what chipsets have DRI support
[05:11] <warrior> carthik, if I grab a knoppix cd do I just go back and have it redo my xorg file?
[05:11] <hou5ton> ok ... go for it .... and let me know when you find it ... PLEASE
[05:11] <knelix> Jowi: I'm sorry, could you explain what you just said to me? heh.
[05:11] <olal> hou5ton, what grafics card do you have?
[05:11] <hou5ton> ati
[05:11] <carthik> warrior, knoppix doesnt write the conf file to the hdd ... you will have to use a usb drive, or mail it to yourself, and then copy over only the "Mode" lines -- the minimum required, not the whole file
[05:11] <warrior> haha
[05:12] <warrior> ati is a bad bad idea
[05:12] <olal> hou5ton, yes but what model?
[05:12] <hou5ton> mobility radeon 9600
[05:12] <warrior> I would know I own a X800
[05:12] <warrior> carthik, can I just tweak it under my X11 folder?
[05:13] <Jowi> knelix: you will have no problem when it comes to display normal graphics. question is if you can get accelerated 3d for Xorg (the window system). DRI = accelerated graphics.
[05:13] <warrior> Just so everyone knows I've tried a ton of different operating systems with my X800 and ubuntu is the only one I could get 3D with and it took a ton of searching for success stories in the forums
[05:13] <knelix> Oh, okay. When would I use 3d, however? The GUI itself is 2D right?
[05:13] <olal> i got a ati radeon 9250 as a present from a friend & that just refused to work.. :( to bad i cant use it since it had no fans & such..
[05:14] <Jowi> knelix: yep, thats it. you can always add a "proper" video card later on though :-)
[05:14] <knelix> Hmm. Interesting.
[05:14] <knelix> True. True.
[05:14] <carthik> warrior, yep - just update the xorg.conf file appropriately
[05:14] <knelix> Is anyone here a classic Mac OS fan, btw?
[05:14] <warrior> carthik, awesome, thanks man
[05:16] <zone17> Hi, how do I find a DEB for Krename, which works on ubuntu?
[05:17] <warrior> hey carthik you wouldn't know how to remove update-notifier without taking anything else with it would you?
[05:18] <Alos> carthik:updating xorg.conf could resolve screen resolution??
[05:18] <zone17> Or is there a ubuntu specific source which holds krename, if how to find out?
[05:18] <knelix> I was just reading how Gnome is moving more in the direction of spatial file management, like the classic Mac OS, which I think is great. This is one of the things that bother me about OS X-- it's like Apple's given up on spatial file management. I really prefer this way to the "browser" way of interacting with a computer, though I also see advantages to a browser style as well. I think both have pros/cons.
[05:18] <warrior> zone17, you can alien it if you can get the rpm of Krename
[05:18] <deFrysk> zone17, krename is in the repositories afaIk
[05:18] <ubuntu> hey
[05:19] <zone17> deFrysk, thanks! How did you search on that? Or did you already know?
[05:19] <olal> knelix, i agree about the good things about spatial! but its hard when you have to deep levels
[05:19] <carthik> Alos, and restarting X of course...
[05:19] <knelix> Does Gnome also give you a browser option, btw?
[05:20] <deFrysk> zone17, apt-cache search krename
[05:20] <carthik> knelix, yes
[05:20] <bloodnik> hey, I had to install this wireless card with ndiswrapper ... now how do I make it use WPA?
[05:20] <carthik> knelix, you are talking nautilus - not gnome, exactly...
[05:21] <sciorlu> Hi, Does someone know if the problem with macromedia flash player for amd64 platform is resolved ?
[05:21] <knelix> It's the best of both worlds, then. :-) Oh, yes, you are right-- like the Finder in the Mac OS. :-)
[05:21] <zone17> deFrysk, would you mind sharing your repo source? Perhaps paste on nomorepasting.
[05:21] <deFrysk> !info krename
[05:21] <Alos> cathik: o X site should I read how to do this???
[05:21] <deFrysk> ! krename
[05:21] <ubotu> deFrysk: Bugger all, i dunno
[05:21] <deFrysk> tss
[05:22] <knelix> How are you supposed to pronounce Gnone. nome, or, Ga-nome?
[05:22] <carthik> bloodnik, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[05:22] <Hoxzer> what DVD player for ubuntu do you recomend?
[05:22] <deFrysk> zone17, you have muliverse , universe ?
[05:22] <deFrysk> multiverse*
[05:22] <zone17> deFrysk, yes both
[05:22] <pawdro> hi, how can I check in ubuntu where i've installed jdk?
[05:23] <carthik> Alos, it is just like i said above...
[05:23] <deFrysk> zone17, I use breezy , its in there not sure about hoary tho
[05:23] <fblade> hey guys hw can i get update my ubuntu?
[05:23] <Alos> cathik: ok Thanks
[05:23] <knelix> Since, unfortunately, I can't seem to have many real-world audio conversations about Gnome, etc, sometimes I just don't know how it's supposed to be pronounced!
[05:23] <deFrysk> fblade, apt-get update blah
[05:23] <carthik> knelix, guh-nome
[05:24] <warrior> how do I remove update-notifier without removing anything else?
[05:24] <Necron69> fblade: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28upgrade%29
[05:24] <warrior> synaptic wants to take other things with it
[05:24] <deFrysk> warrior, apt-get remove --nodeps blah
[05:24] <knelix> Kind of clumsy, that pronunciation. Heh. Oh, well. :-P
[05:24] <Jowi> Hoxzer: do you mean a DVD-ROM or Mediaplayer?
[05:25] <warrior> gotcha DeFrysk
[05:25] <carthik> pawdro, whereis java
[05:25] <pawdro> thx
[05:26] <Hoxzer> Jowi: mediplayer
[05:26] <Hoxzer> I also want to know how I can setup programs to total full screen
[05:26] <warrior> I'm waiting for the day where you tell someone "whereis java" and they respond, "Thats what I'm asking you."
[05:26] <Hoxzer> xine looks cool
[05:26] <Jowi> Hoxzer: I use totem-xine, which plays every dvd i have.
[05:26] <danl> join /linux
[05:26] <danl> arg
[05:26] <deFrysk>  /join
[05:27] <deFrysk> ;p
[05:27] <bloodnik> carthik, that only helps me set up WEP encryption. I need WPA.
[05:27] <Hoxzer> jowi: and do I need some other stuff to play DVD than only the player?
[05:27] <deFrysk> Hoxzer, sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[05:27] <Hoxzer> -> boot
[05:27] <Jowi> Hoxzer: libdvdcss2 - that's it.
[05:27] <hou5ton> ok ... let me ask you this question .... for some reason I can't get my laptop to see the usb connected Treo 650, but I find tutorials on how to connect it with blue tooth
[05:27] <knelix> Is an AMD Sempron 2200+ Thoroughbred 333MHz FSB superior to an AMD Duron 1.8 Applebred 266MHz FSB?
[05:27] <pawdro> and how can I check the version of jdk installed?
[05:28] <hou5ton> if I get a usb blue tooth, won't it have the same issues, since it is still going through a usb port?
[05:28] <bloodnik> carthik, never mind, think I found it
[05:28] <Jowi> pawdro: usually you just type: programame --version
[05:29] <pawdro> ok ok ive got it
[05:30] <sciorlu> raga, qualcuno s se Macromedia Flash-player funziona su piattaforma amd64 Athlon ?
[05:30] <Hoxzer> aaargh daamn
[05:30] <Jowi> Hoxzer: install libdvdcss2 to play any commercial dvd
[05:30] <Hoxzer> I'm really having hard time to resizing my ntfs partition
[05:31] <danl> is there any way to get acpi to reconginize my battery correctly?
[05:31] <bloodness> how can i uninstall an app?
[05:31] <Jowi> bloodness: apt-get remove <application>
[05:31] <Colloid> what's gonna be better in breezy?
[05:31] <humulus> apt-get remove <some-app<
[05:31] <deFrysk> bloodness, apt-get remove <app>
[05:31] <deFrysk> bloodness, or remove it with synaptic
[05:32] <bloodness> ok
[05:32] <Hoxzer> W: Failed to fetch http://tamir.nooms.de/ubuntu/dists/hoary/universe/binary-amd64/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[05:32] <Hoxzer>   404 Not Found
[05:32] <Hoxzer> strange :E
[05:33] <Determinist> dear god, a back tire for a GS500 costs like a bloody mortgage
[05:33] <sciorlu> Hozer, do your Macromedia Flash player works on your computer ?
[05:34] <sciorlu> Hoxzer do your Macromedia Flash player works on your computer ?
[05:34] <bloodness> E: Couldn't find package quake2
[05:34] <bloodness> it says
[05:34] <bloodness> i want to uninstall q2
[05:34] <Hoxzer> sciorlu: haven't tried
[05:35] <bloodnik> Why is mozilla-firefox not being updated?
[05:35] <bloodnik> What's the most likely reason?
[05:35] <Hoxzer> :E hmmm
[05:35] <sciorlu> It seem that there are a lot of problem
[05:35] <Hoxzer> I can't find libdvdcss2 from synapic
[05:35] <Hoxzer> only from unoffical repo what doesn't work
[05:35] <geeman> could someone help me? i can't install gidentd or phpsysinfo with apt-get? are they really not available?
[05:36] <dade`> breezy gives me problem
[05:36] <dade`> after last upgrade X cannot find xfonts fixed
[05:36] <dade`> i reinstalled xfonts-base (un and install)
[05:36] <dade`> and it worked
[05:36] <dade`> but now keyboard does not work under X
[05:36] <Jowi> Hoxzer: i don't have amd64. found mine in: dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/libdvdcss2_1.2.8-1~5.04ubp1_i386.deb
[05:36] <bloodness> i couldnt remove quake2
[05:36] <bloodness> pls help
[05:37] <Hoxzer> jowi: ok....
[05:37] <tux-rox> bloodness, you are trying to uninstall Quake2?
[05:37] <Hoxzer> I better check this from wiki
[05:38] <antonio__> hi, i have an acer travel mate laptop. the gnome battery app is not working. i find it strange that both apmd and acpi is installed. acpi -b gives no output... any clues?
[05:38] <HiddenWolf> !uboto help
[05:38] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, HiddenWolf
[05:38] <bloodness> yes tux
[05:38] <geeman> is it possible to install a replacement identd with apt-get?
[05:39] <geeman> if so what identd is best?
[05:40] <Hoxzer> :D this AMD64 is getting really hard
[05:40] <bloodness> tux-rox i want uninstall quake2
[05:41] <linuxsbartley> Hi.  Trying to configure eth1 on a first time ubuntu-server install.  Can anyone help?
[05:41] <smott> is there any nice graphical tool i can use to partition and format drives?
[05:41] <bloodnik> OK, this page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto - has a huge script at the start for DHCP, but I have no idea what to do with it
[05:42] <Jowi> smott: gparted
[05:42] <bloodnik> What do I do with it?
[05:42] <smott> Jowi: thanks
[05:42] <linuxsbartley> ifconfig only shows eth0.  unsure how to configure ubuntu network devices.
[05:42] <tux-rox> bloodness, ok, what directory did it install in?
[05:42] <InitMass> anyone who use SkypeIN or SkypeOut?
[05:42] <linuxsbartley> Is there a tool or howto?
[05:42] <Jowi> linuxsbartley: sudo network-admin (usually do the trick)
[05:43] <linuxsbartley> Jowi, cool. thx.
[05:43] <Jowi> InitMass: yes, SkypeOut.
[05:43] <linuxsbartley> Jowi, what package installs network-admin?
[05:43] <antonio__> linuxsbartley, /etc/network/interfaces
[05:43] <Jowi> !search network-admin
[05:43] <ubotu> Jowi: I don't know
[05:43] <InitMass> Jowi, do you think it has as good sound and is as stable as a regular phone?
[05:43] <knelix> Can anyone help me out with CPUs... Is an AMD Sempron 2200+ Thoroughbred 333MHz FSB superior to an AMD Duron 1.8 Applebred 266MHz FSB?
[05:44] <[Spooky] > InitMass: i just use the ordinary ip to ip skype...
[05:44] <Jowi> InitMass: better quality than regular phone. never had problems with it. and its CHEAP.
[05:45] <Jowi> linuxsbartley: i think it is a part of gnome....
[05:45] <bloodness> tux-rox /usr/local/games
[05:45] <parktownprawn> linuxbartley: network-admin is part of gnome - it should be there - try sudo network-admin
[05:45] <InitMass> Jowi, cheap if you are calling to other countries compared to regular phones but it's not that cheap if you are calling local calles
[05:46] <tux-rox> OK, to uninstall Quake2, you could do the following: sudo rm -rf /usr/local/games/quake2    Is there a menu item or it as well, or desktop icon?
[05:47] <Jowi> InitMass: right, no use for skypeout if you call local. but i doubt that's what it's for. i call sweden and africa quite often though. it has saved me hundreds of euros per month.
[05:47] <antonio__> linuxsbartley, it is much more easy to edit the configuration file itself...
[05:47] <InitMass> Jowi, i never call anything else than sweden. i might start calling my sister in scotland thou
[05:48] <Jowi> linuxsbartley: if you made a server-install for ubuntu then you will not have network-admin. but as a standard install it will be there.
[05:48] <bloodness> yes a menu item
[05:48] <linuxsbartley> Jowi, thus the question on what package would provide it. :)
[05:48] <bloodness> app->others->quake2
[05:48] <smott> erm, which is 'more reliable', ext3 or reiserfs4?
[05:48] <linuxsbartley> antonio__, is there a howto or example file that will show the correct syntax?
[05:48] <geeman> how can i install gidentd? compiling from sources is the only option?
[05:48] <theD3viL> how can i remove all the packages which come with some program (etc. amarok), and i remove amarok but programs stay... HOW CAN I REMOVE IT? ;)
[05:49] <deFrysk> smott, ext3 is most reliable
[05:49] <bart_> theD3viL, interesting question, I would also like to know that!
[05:49] <h17m4n> why do I get this error: wine: cannot find 'wineboot'
[05:50] <Jowi> InitMass: Skype out rates for sweden: Sweden 	 0.017 	 0.020 / Sweden - Mobile 	 0.237 	 0.273 / Sweden - Mobile (Telia) 	 0.237 	 0.273 (second number is rate with tax)
[05:50] <theD3viL> bart_, to debian: deborphan, debfoster
[05:50] <bloodness> tux-rox but there is a shortcut how can i uninstall app->others->quake2
[05:50] <Jowi> linuxsbartley: i will have to go in just a minute so unfortunatley i do not have the time to check... :-/
[05:50] <antonio__> linuxsbartley:
[05:50] <antonio__> auto eth1
[05:50] <antonio__> iface eth1 inet static
[05:50] <antonio__> netmask 25<IP_ADDRESS>
[05:50] <antonio__> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:51] <parktownprawn> linuxsbartley: maybe gnome-system-tools provides network-admin
[05:51] <linuxsbartley> Jowi, k.np.
[05:51] <linuxsbartley> antonio__, thx.
[05:51] <antonio__> or if you have only one network card use: eth0:1
[05:51] <linuxsbartley> parktownprawn, k.
[05:51] <InitMass> Jowi, yes i had at those numbers before. i am living in sweden and am thinking about using skype instead of my old phone
[05:51] <antonio__> then make /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:51] <Jowi> InitMass: ah cool. have you found any good phones?
[05:52] <Juhaz> knelix, the sempron is slightly faster since it has faster fsb and larger cache
[05:52] <knelix> Ah, thanks.
[05:52] <InitMass> Jowi, i don't need one. i have my headset
[05:53] <Hoxzer> I'm trying to play .avi with totem why I dont get any video screening?
[05:53] <pinucset> umm...
[05:53] <pinucset> watch about de codecs
[05:53] <pinucset> sudo apt-get install win32
[05:53] <pinucset> if it is divx (i think)
[05:54] <Hoxzer> :D win32?
[05:54] <darkheart> w32codecs
[05:54] <Hoxzer> sounds scary
[05:54] <Hoxzer> ok
[05:54] <antonio__> is there a package in ubuntu to load kernel modules (semi) grafically like modconf?
[05:54] <Sonderblade> is there a window manager that minimizes in the same way that windows does? by animating the titlebar?
[05:54] <Jowi> InitMass: same here. but if i would use skype as a replacement i would get a skype phone in case. Preferably one that connects to the router/switch with ethernet :-)
[05:54] <pinucset> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[05:54] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get install xp bill would have a fit
[05:54] <Jowi> ...annnnnyway, got to go. take care all.
[05:54] <linuxsbartley> antonio__, I have two nic's.  eth0 and eth1.  after adding those lines, ifconfig now only shows eth1.
[05:54] <bart_> thed3vil: why isn't this done automatically? this way the system get full of 'trash' ...
[05:55] <carthik> Sonderblade, what do you mean "Animating the titlebar?"
[05:55] <Hoxzer> root@dhcppc0:/home/niko # apt-get install w32codecs
[05:55] <Hoxzer> Reading package lists... Done
[05:55] <Hoxzer> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:55] <Hoxzer> E: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[05:55] <Hoxzer> :(
[05:55] <Hoxzer> why did I install amd64 version :D
[05:55] <pinucset> win32codecs
[05:55] <pinucset> sorry ;)
[05:55] <frank23> Hoxzer: w32codecs is not in amd64
[05:55] <carthik> Hoxzer, please dont paste output in the channel - its considered unbecoming :)
[05:55] <tux-rox> bloodness, Sorry I am not responding quickly, as I am at work. You may need to install the Gnome menu editor to delete that. Hang on, I'll look it up.
[05:55] <pinucset> oh no
[05:56] <pinucset> have you updated the repositories?
[05:56] <theD3viL> bart_, you are "guilty" for "trash" if you dont remove program is allrajt :)
[05:56] <antonio__> linuxsbartley: ifup eth0
[05:56] <linuxsbartley> antonio__, did a networking restart.
[05:56] <Hoxzer> frank23: so is there any way to play .avi files with am64?
[05:56] <Sonderblade> carthik: in windows, when you minimize windows the titlebar is moved to the taskbar
[05:56] <carthik> Sonderblade, that is what happens in gnome+metacity
[05:57] <carthik> Sonderblade, the taskbar is at the bottom by default...
[05:57] <linuxsbartley> ifup did it.
[05:57] <pinucset> hozxer, do this http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories and sudo apt-get update // sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[05:57] <carthik> you can add it to a "Panel" wherever you like...
[05:57] <Bateau_> hey! whats the command to see all the processes that is running, and how much cpu and memory they use
[05:57] <faugn> hi
[05:57] <pinucset> bateau: top
[05:57] <antonio__> linuxsbartley, mybe hotplug is acting against you....
[05:57] <pinucset> top in the terminal :)
[05:57] <Bateau_> ah, yes. thanks :)
[05:58] <Sonderblade> carthik: yes but the animation is different
[05:58] <linuxsbartley> couldbe
[05:58] <bart_> :) ok, trying debfoster now
[05:58] <pinucset> nothing ;)
[05:58] <antonio__> linuxsbartley, remove :mapping hotplug
[05:58] <antonio__>         script grep
[05:58] <antonio__>         map eth0
[05:58] <frank23> Hoxzer: yes, you can setup a 32bit chroot or maybe there is also another way. check the forums in the amd64 section. The easiest way, however is to simply use the i386 version of Ubuntu
[05:58] <joh> Guys, I'm having problems with Breezy... I just upgraded to breezy on my PPC, but when I boot, modprobe messages saying the cannot find the running kernels modules.dep are spewed on the screen :(
[05:58] <carthik> Sonderblade, oh, I dont even remember how it looked like in Windows sorry
[05:58] <faugn> I'm using a dualhead config, and I'd like to know if it's possible to get rid of the gnome-panels on one of the display?
[05:58] <cvt> do you think this will be good?  http://tinyurl.com/alvkk
[05:58] <cvt> doom 3
[05:58] <antonio__> and add: auto eth0 before iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:59] <tux-rox> bloodness, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[05:59] <joh> I can't even access the TTY to BusyBox :(
[05:59] <joh> is Breezy on PPC broken?
[05:59] <frank23> Hoxzer: I used to use amd64 but switched to i386 and that's what I recommend to everyone for now
[05:59] <Hoxzer> frank: can you give me a url to forums?
[05:59] <bloodness> 5.04
[05:59] <frank23> Hoxzer: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=10
[05:59] <faugn> the problem is I can modifie the existing one on the second display, and restart the session, but if I delete them, when I restart the session, they are recreated (with the default config)
[06:00] <senectus> hey how do I make desktop shortcuts to shell scripts run the script when they're double clicked?
[06:00] <tux-rox> Does anyone know off hand what repository smeg is in?
[06:01] <parktownprawn> senectus: right click on the desktop and try: create laucher
[06:01] <smott> hdparm says "BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=0kB, MaxMultSect=0" ... does that mean it's confused about how much buffer my sata drive has? also how do i enable dma on sata (do sata drives even have dma?)
[06:01] <tux-rox> Does anyone know off hand what repository smeg is in for hoary?
[06:01] <dpicker> is it possible to update to the final release (when its out) from within 5.10 preview??
[06:01] <endy_x> smott, hdparm is not for sata drives afaik
[06:01] <endy_x> smott, i think they app you want is called smart tools or something
[06:01] <joh> oh crap, I forgot to relink the initrds :(
[06:02] <parktownprawn> tux-rox : i think you can get smeg from the backports
[06:02] <frank23> Hoxzer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[06:02] <senectus> parktownprawn, Did that for some reason some of my shell scripts wont run, even after being made executable.. but if I run them from the shell... no problem
[06:03] <smott> endy_x: hm darn :/ i had hoped i would never have to bother with OS crap again. now i have to read up on this. thanks
[06:03] <frank23> dpicker: yes
[06:03] <tux-rox> parktownprawn, Thanks!
[06:03] <frank23> dpicker: it's the magic of apt!
[06:03] <endy_x> i'm looking myself now, my hdd performance has always been ok but I know the kernel SATA  drivers aren't complete yet so there is some way to go still
[06:04] <tux-rox> bloodness, Have you followed the Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide and installed the menu editor?
[06:04] <endy_x> smott, eg S.M.A.R.T isn't supported yet I think and neither is NCQ
[06:04] <parktownprawn> senectus: hmmm - works for me - maybe if you click on: run in terminal when making the launcher
[06:05] <bart_> theD3viL: when I install 3dchess, it says xaw3dg is also needed. is there an easy way to make sure such packages are removed later?
[06:05] <endy_x> smott, http://sourceforge.net/projects/smartmontools/
[06:05] <smott> endy_x: i just want it to work more or less like my old ATA drive. that's possible right?
[06:05] <frank23> endy_x: are you talking about SMART on SATA? because SMART on ATA works
[06:05] <theD3viL> bart_, sry..dunno :\
[06:05] <senectus> parktownprawn, tried that too.. :-/ I get a shell pop up for a split second then nothing
[06:05] <endy_x> smott,  mine works great
[06:06] <Hoxzer> Geez the repo is down >_<
[06:06] <theD3viL> bart_, can you give me the link to soldier of fortune for linux ?
[06:06] <bloodness> Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide where can i get it
[06:06] <endy_x> frank23, SATA works for me under linux but IIRC its not fully supported on linux yet so it DOES work but not at it's best performance. Don;t get me wrong though mine is still fast
[06:06] <parktownprawn> senectus: go to the Desktop directory in a terminal  - there should be some .desktop files there corresponding to the launchers you made
[06:06] <frank23> Hoxzer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[06:06] <bloodness> and where is menueditor :)
[06:06] <parktownprawn> senectus: are they executable
[06:06] <pinucset> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[06:06] <bloodness> ok
[06:07] <endy_x> http://linux.yyz.us/sata/sata-status.html
[06:07] <deFrysk> !ubuntuguide
[06:07] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[06:07] <tux-rox> bloodness, http://ubuntuguide.org/   Follow the directions and you will be able to install all kinds of cool software. Install the Menu Editor and use that to remove the Quake2 icon.
[06:07] <tux-rox> bloodness, Have fun!
[06:07] <bloodness> ok thnx
[06:08] <bloodness> so much
[06:08] <deFrysk> afaIk its not done to advise to use the inferiour ubuntuguide
[06:08] <senectus> parktownprawn, nope.. I treid making the offending shortcut +x and that mad no difference
[06:09] <parktownprawn> senectus: what is the script you are trying to run?
[06:09] <bart_> theD3viL thanks nope...
[06:09] <senectus> parktownprawn, NeverWinterNights game
[06:09] <parktownprawn> senectus: what do you get when you cat the .desktop file
[06:10] <parktownprawn> senectus: when you run it from the shell there isn't a problem?
[06:10] <senectus> parktownprawn, no problem when run from shell, correct
[06:10] <endy_x> http://linux.yyz.us/sata/software-status.html#smart  smart support on sata is coming :)
[06:11] <parktownprawn> senectus: strange
[06:12] <senectus> parktownprawn, PM'd the cat output to you..
[06:13] <parktownprawn> senectus: go to system->preferences->file-management ->behaviour
[06:13] <pinucset> one questoin please, im doing apt-get upgrade and he says for installing  linux-image-2.6.10-5-386. Whats this?
[06:13] <senectus> parktownprawn, yeah?
[06:13] <parktownprawn> senectus: just started using xchat - not sure how to get pm's
[06:14] <senectus> parktownprawn, umm at the very bottom of the screen?
[06:14] <h17m4n> why do I get this error: wine: cannot find 'wineboot'
[06:15] <parktownprawn> senectus: system->preferences->file-management ->behaviour has preferences   for how execteble files are treated
[06:16] <senectus> parktownprawn, I see.. tried every choice.. no change for the offending shortcut
[06:16] <leopold> is it possible to save the Grup entry to my second harddisc os windows?
[06:16] <parktownprawn> senectus: sorry - i'm not sure whats wrong
[06:17] <pluffsy> hello. anyone here running the 5.10 preview? is it stable? is like beta or what is it? I'm getting an powerbook g3 on monday and I can't decide if I should install 5.06 or 5.10. Since I will use it as a desktop it doesn't have to be rock solid, but I would not like it like loose the work files I will store on it (even though I will bu of course)
[06:17] <leopold> want to save grub menu.lst to sec harddisc os win
[06:17] <senectus> parktownprawn, interesting... when I set "View executable text files when clicked" it _still_ does nothing.. just an inert icon...
[06:17] <pluffsy> I would really like to use gnome 2.12 :)
[06:17] <leopold> is it possible?
[06:17] <pluffsy> and 2.6.13 and beagle would be cool to try too
[06:17] <parktownprawn> senectus: what are the permissions for the .desktop files
[06:18] <parktownprawn> senectus: maybe nautilus is being weird - try killing nautilus and then see if it works
[06:18] <senectus> parktownprawn, -rwx--x--x  1 senectus senectus 263 2005-09-10 00:04 NWN.desktop
[06:18] <alberto_> hi
[06:18] <senectus> parktownprawn, no change :-/
[06:19] <parktownprawn> senectus: nautilus should restart automatically if you kill it : killall -9 nautilus
[06:19] <shinu> is there a way to compare between 2 folders to see if the files in them are similar?
[06:19] <parktownprawn> senectus: ok I have no idea
[06:19] <leopold> ive got a prob with grup:  i want it to boot my sec harddisc os win prim slave....doesnt work...settings seem to be fine....i know, that win doesnt like being slave, so i could save Grup to the win harddisc make it master and the ubuntu hardisc slave....but How can I save the grub menu.lst to windows?
[06:19] <cvt> has anyone here got doom 3 to work on ubuntu?
[06:19] <senectus> parktownprawn, hmmm ok thanks for the help.. time for bed.. will sleep on it :-) Got a big day of "software freedom day" tomorrow :-P
[06:20] <senectus> cvt, I have :-) no problems
[06:20] <parktownprawn> senectus: not that nwn is free
[06:20] <wezzer> hello, anyone installed fuhquake to ubuntu?
[06:20] <wezzer> I can't get it to work
[06:20] <parktownprawn> senectus: enjoy it anyway
[06:20] <senectus> parktownprawn, true.. but It wasn't for that :-P
[06:20] <theD3viL> cvt, ill when ill have all 3cds
[06:20] <pinucset> if i have upgraded the Linux Kernel i have to reboot? For the changes takes effect :)
[06:20] <othernoob> has anyone here had a club 3d graphics card?
[06:21] <cvt> senectus, did you have to burn cd's?
[06:21] <cvt> i have about 9 more hours
[06:21] <cvt> probably more like 4
[06:21] <senectus> cvt, nope.. I own them.. why would I need to do that?
[06:21] <frank23> othernoob: a what?
[06:21] <cvt> senectus, good to hear
[06:21] <frank23> pinucset: yes
[06:21] <pinucset> thanks!
[06:22] <othernoob> frank23: club 3d.. a dutch graphicscard manufacturer
[06:22] <deFrysk> othernoob, I have one
[06:22] <frank23> othernoob: oh
[06:22] <deFrysk> othernoob, nvidia chipset
[06:22] <senectus> cvt, I make a point of buying all my games since switching to linux :-P
[06:22] <cvt> http://tinyurl.com/alvkk  this is the one i'm getting
[06:22] <othernoob> deFrysk: are they any good?
[06:23] <cvt> senectus, they sell versions for linux?
[06:23] <h17m4n> Question. How do I remove a messed up wine installation, and what steps should I follow in order to make a good installation?
[06:23] <senectus> cvt, linux supported out of the box (need to download the installer)
[06:23] <deFrysk> othernoob, i have an 128 mb GeFORCE FX 5200
[06:24] <Hoxzer> do you guys know any DVD/divx players that can browse files without going out of the full screen?
[06:24] <deFrysk> othernoob, work ok
[06:24] <deFrysk> works*
[06:24] <cvt> senectus, amazing
[06:24] <deFrysk> othernoob, no privating
[06:24] <cvt> to me
[06:24] <frank23> deFrysk: I hope you didn't buy it for gaming... ;-)
[06:24] <senectus> cvt, same for Unreal Tournament 2004
[06:24] <deFrysk> frank23, nope
[06:25] <deFrysk> frank23, I  bought it to be ready for doom4
[06:25] <deFrysk> ;p
[06:25] <senectus> cvt, I highly recommend "Lugaru", Icculus just finished porting it to linux.. :-)
[06:25] <cheesie> !wlan
[06:25] <ubotu> Not a clue, cheesie
[06:25] <cheesie> !wireless
[06:25] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[06:25] <othernoob> deFrysk: i saw a Club 3D Ati RadeOn 9600 256MB for 70 euro, would it be an okay card for gaming and maybe last a year (regarding gaming)?
[06:25] <deFrysk> othernoob, nope
[06:26] <deFrysk> too light
[06:26] <marmelatta> hi
[06:26] <frank23> othernoob: if you want to game in linux, use nvidia, not ati
[06:26] <marmelatta> hi frank
[06:26] <shinu> does diff folder1 folder2 report if there is a file in each folder with same name but different size?
[06:26] <othernoob> frank23: it's not for linux..
[06:26] <deFrysk> frank23, it IS nvidia
[06:26] <deFrysk> othernoob, I dont do windows
[06:26] <senectus> frank23, othernoob, I second that sentament.. Nvidia and Linux rocks for gaming
[06:26] <othernoob> deFrysk: neither do i, but the friend i'm building a comp for does
[06:26] <deFrysk> othernoob, havent used windows in 4 yrs
[06:27] <marmelatta> u r really borng too bor
[06:27] <marmelatta> ing
[06:27] <marmelatta> bhhh
[06:27] <deFrysk> othernoob, a proper vid card costs at least 250 euris
[06:27] <bloodness> what is delete command
[06:27] <bloodness> delete isnt work :)
[06:27] <marmelatta> ok
[06:27] <othernoob> deFrysk: of course, but the set limit is 500 euro for the whole thing. and it does not necessarily have to be 2005 standard
[06:27] <marmelatta> zkkkmn kk
[06:28] <Naked31> rm
[06:28] <frank23> othernoob: I don't know about prices in Europe, but I'm sure you can get something decent in the 150-200 euro range
[06:28] <bloodness> rm?
[06:28] <deFrysk> othernoob, for micky mouse gaming its plenty good
[06:28] <othernoob> frank23: yea i could. but the limit i have to operate with sucks
[06:28] <othernoob> deFrysk: micky mouse gaming=
[06:28] <othernoob> ?
[06:28] <bloodness> how can i delete something in terminal what is command?
[06:28] <marmelatta> uuuf beeeeeeee
[06:28] <marmelatta> ne
[06:28] <marmelatta> biim
[06:28] <marmelatta> adamlarsnz
[06:28] <marmelatta> ya
[06:28] <frank23> othernoob: 500 euros for the whole computer, maybe a radeon 9600 is ok
[06:28] <marmelatta> salak
[06:28] <Naked31> man rm
[06:28] <marmelatta> salak
[06:28] <runeh> I'm trying to file a bug against libglade2-ruby, but the frontend at launchpad says it's a invalid package name. What to do?
[06:29] <marmelatta> knmayn be
[06:29] <othernoob> bloodness: rm
[06:29] <deFrysk> othernoob, low ram budget gaming
[06:29] <marmelatta> wd wd wd
[06:29] <bloodness> sus
[06:29] <frank23> marmelatta: please shut up
[06:29] <bloodness> thnx
[06:29] <marmelatta> yuooooo
[06:29] <marmelatta> suscakmm
[06:29] <marmelatta> sen kmsn bea
[06:29] <cvt> i hate windows with the passion of christ
[06:29] <marmelatta> hate mi
[06:29] <marmelatta> hade len
[06:29] <cvt> ever since i switched to linux life has been better
[06:30] <othernoob> cvt: now if you switch from christianity to atheism life will be perfect ;)
[06:30] <DewDude> it's still going
[06:30] <cvt> othernoob, i did
[06:30] <cvt> lol
[06:30] <reiki_work> or humanism
[06:30] <othernoob> lol
[06:30] <marmelatta> sen bmnm ass me kurban ol lan
[06:30] <deFrysk> othernoob, never!
[06:30] <cvt> i am referring to the peter pan view of christ hehe
[06:31] <reiki_work> <-  clergy .... church of spiritual humanism ... no deities
[06:31] <marmelatta> salak
[06:31] <marmelatta> u
[06:31] <bloodness> othernoob so what is rename command
[06:31] <bloodness> ?
[06:31] <othernoob> deFrysk: could you elaborate on lowram budget gaming? meaning games from 2004 or so will run nicely?
[06:31] <frank23> bloodness: mv oldname newname
[06:31] <othernoob> bloodness: rename
[06:31] <DewDude> <- former christian ...... rejects religion .... can't shake the values implanted in his brain .... tries
[06:31] <leopold> how does the order have to look like to install Grup on windows MBR with grub-install "grub-install...*"????
[06:31] <deFrysk> othernoob, no clue , i am not a gamer
[06:31] <bloodness> thnx
[06:32] <marmelatta> sheets
[06:32] <reiki_work> DewDude.... hard road... hehehe... early training is tought to shake
[06:32] <othernoob> deFrysk: neither am i :/
[06:32] <DewDude> yeah
[06:32] <DewDude> it is
[06:32] <DewDude> i mean, i don't say the bible is wrong
[06:32] <DewDude> i just don't put as much faith as to what is says is "law"
[06:32] <deFrysk> othernoob, just get the 70 euro one
[06:32] <DewDude> i just can't
[06:33] <DewDude> any document written and compiled by man is going to have outside influence
[06:33] <reiki_work> exactly
[06:33] <deFrysk> othernoob, also get a 400watt powerfeed for the box
[06:33] <reiki_work> now we have to correlate this somehow to Ubuntu or we have to shut up :)
[06:33] <marmelatta> salak
[06:33] <marmelatta> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:33] <Lunar_Lamp> DewDude - personally i don't get that argument really - as if God wants the bible to be the truth and the law - it would do...
[06:33] <reiki_work> or... we can kill marmelatta
[06:34] <othernoob> DewDude: i hope you don't doubt the Holy Spirit or else you'll be damned for all eternity (said twice in the bible, the only unforgivable sin)
[06:34] <deFrysk> !ops
[06:34] <ubotu> well, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[06:34] <deFrysk> anyone around ?
[06:34] <marmelatta> me
[06:34] <marmelatta> do
[06:34] <X7C> me too
[06:34] <othernoob> deFrysk: so an already built tower with 400W will be okay?
[06:34] <marmelatta> u want
[06:34] <marmelatta> me
[06:34] <DewDude> i don't doubt the holy spirit
[06:34] <marmelatta> muhahahah
[06:34] <Hoxzer> :E
[06:34] <deFrysk> othernoob, 400w should do yes
[06:34] <Hoxzer> aargh
[06:34] <DewDude> i just don't think 99% of what we have written down is accurate
[06:34] <humulus>     10000588:   7c 85 01 90     subfze  r4,r5
[06:34] <humulus>     1000058c:   7c 85 01 91     subfze. r4,r5
[06:34] <humulus>     10000590:   7c 85 05 90     subfzeo r4,r5
[06:34] <humulus>     10000594:   7c 85 05 91     subfzeo. r4,r5
[06:35] <humulus> sorry :(
[06:35] <othernoob> deFrysk: okay, thanks :)
[06:35] <smott> ubuntu can install and boot from SATA right?
[06:36] <snorks> yes
[06:36] <deFrysk> othernoob, gool luck (with your budget)
[06:36] <deFrysk> good*
[06:36] <marmelatta> f* offs
[06:36] <snorks> smott: yes
[06:36] <piorek> hi
[06:37] <snorks>
[06:37] <marmelatta> how can u kll me
[06:37] <marmelatta> muhahahha
[06:37] <Xorlev_> kill -9 marmelatta?
[06:37] <marmelatta> yhahah
[06:37] <marmelatta> t s so
[06:37] <marmelatta> dffcult 4 u
[06:37] <marmelatta> snt t
[06:37] <snorks> what's the -9 flag? is it short for -KILL?
[06:38] <bloodness> gerizekal ouk defol gir urdan
[06:38] <humbolt> how is the netapplet called again in breezy?
[06:38] <marmelatta> sensn o mala bak
[06:38] <bloodness> ezik
[06:38] <marmelatta> ocuk mu
[06:38] <marmelatta>
[06:38] <marmelatta> ezk
[06:38] <marmelatta> m
[06:38] <marmelatta> salak
[06:38] <marmelatta> ya
[06:38] <snorks> please stop that language
[06:38] <marmelatta> grzek
[06:38] <marmelatta> sus lan blood nes
[06:38] <X7C> how can i see hidden files on a cdrom written in windows from linux?
[06:38] <reiki_work> thanks, fab
[06:38] <bloodness> thnx :)
[06:39] <deFrysk> fabbione, great thanks :)
[06:39] <fabbione> anybody else?
[06:39] <fabbione> otherwise i am back to take away wall paper :)
[06:39] <fabbione> last 3 sq. m.
[06:39] <fabbione> !!1
[06:39] <ubotu> fabbione: Wish i knew
[06:39] <fabbione> ok
[06:39] <fabbione> later fellas
[06:39] <deFrysk> later fabbione
[06:39] <nanasawa> Quite an obscure question, but when your near the end of the installation and the resolution box comes up, I havn't figured out what to do to select the higher resolutions, hitting enter just skips it and boots me into 1024 :\
[06:40] <frank23> bloodness: what language was that?
[06:40] <snorks> mark them with spacebar
[06:40] <snorks> nanasawa: what is aid
[06:40] <bloodness> turkish
[06:40] <snorks> nanasawa: the longest button on your keyboard
[06:40] <nanasawa> Spacebar huh, thanks :)
[06:41] <Hoxzer> :E this is hard :D
[06:41] <snorks> nanasawa: ;) np good luck. I had the same problem :p
[06:41] <nanasawa> Should be more clearly marked, just says 'select' and doesn't say what key :D
[06:41] <Hoxzer> I have spend like 5hours to just get divx to play
[06:41] <frank23> bloodness: thanks, I had absolutely no idea what it was...
[06:41] <bloodness> :)
[06:41] <eno> when I boot my ubuntu splash screen doesn't go away until I click on it!  somebody please help me!
[06:41] <frank23> Hoxzer: reinstalling with i386 would have been quicker
[06:42] <frank23> ;-)
[06:42] <reiki_work> ok... now I get to go for a walk and get paid for it. :) ONce around the lake should be fine
[06:43] <reiki_work> 2 more years to retirement.... I hope I make it... hehehe
[06:43] <snorks> reiki_work: are you an oldie?
[06:43] <reiki_work> indeed... I turn 53 in a few day
[06:44] <snorks> cool
[06:44] <snorks> network admin_
[06:44] <snorks> ?
[06:44] <Hoxzer> AAAAAAAAArrrrrgh
[06:44] <snorks> Hoxzer: sup?
[06:44] <Hoxzer> frank23: I might agreed with that :D
[06:44] <bloodnik> Has there been a recent openoffice update? Because it's not working any more
[06:44] <Hoxzer> this is so shit....
[06:45] <reiki_work> not any more... I certified in NT and cisco, but I really didn't enjoy it after it became work. So now I work at a university and I get quotes for departments when tehy want to buy computer equipment
[06:45] <Hoxzer> like you cant even play xvid :D
[06:45] <Hoxzer> and dvd
[06:45] <Hoxzer> ...at least I can play mp3's
[06:45] <Hoxzer> but not well them either
[06:45] <snorks> well everything can be fixed
[06:45] <bloodnik> omg it just loaded
[06:45] <bloodnik> After like, five minutes of splash screen
[06:45] <Hoxzer> snorks: yeah, but it will take time
[06:45] <snorks> bloodnik: i have a tip for you
[06:45] <reiki_work> bloodnik: OOo?  mine opens relatively fast
[06:46] <Hoxzer> maybe I download i386
[06:46] <snorks> bloodnik: disable framebuffer. it's fairly useless
[06:46] <snorks> Hoxzer: you using amd64?
[06:46] <Hoxzer> yeap
[06:46] <snorks> same here
[06:46] <snorks> what's not working?
[06:46] <Hoxzer> snorks: xvid and dvd's
[06:47] <snorks> Hoxzer: as in divx's?
[06:47] <reiki_work> ok... out for a walk-about... back in a bit
[06:47] <Hoxzer> snorks: I can't get the video from the file only sound
[06:47] <snorks> Hoxzer: ah
[06:48] <snorks> Hoxzer: what app are you using to play the videos?
[06:48] <Sonny_Wertzik> does anyone know why xine 0.99.3 locks up when i switch to fullscreen??
[06:48] <Hoxzer> snorks: totem
[06:48] <Hoxzer> AAARth hit my foot
[06:49] <Sonny_Wertzik> Hozer u talkin to me?
[06:49] <Hoxzer> huuurts...
[06:49] <snorks> Hoxzer: if you don't mind using 3rd party apps, I suggest VLC player
[06:49] <Sonny_Wertzik> Hoxzer?
[06:49] <Hoxzer> :D
[06:49] <Hoxzer> seems im popular
[06:49] <Hoxzer> Snorks: VLC just crashes when I play DVD or xvid
[06:49] <Sonny_Wertzik> oops...sorry
[06:50] <yancheng> hi
[06:50] <snorks> Hoxzer: hm, not here
[06:50] <yancheng> i oledi set noautoindent in my vi, why when i press enter, my next line will be indent??
[06:50] <Hoxzer> snorks: no...
[06:50] <snorks> type of course
[06:50] <cheesie> DarkEye
[06:50] <cheesie> y0
[06:50] <Hoxzer> it just dont play sounds
[06:50] <DarkEye> hi
[06:50] <cheesie> ubotu tell DarkEye about Java
[06:50] <Hoxzer> like other players do
[06:50] <cheesie> i think thats how i do it
[06:51] <cheesie> not sure
[06:51] <cheesie> that right people?
[06:51] <Hoxzer> but vlc shows the video :O
[06:51] <cheesie> Hoxzer dude, thats the right syntax isnt it?
[06:51] <snorks> Hoxzer: i think you need alsa output plugin for VLC to get sound
[06:51] <cheesie> yup
[06:51] <cheesie> DarkEye it worked right?
[06:52] <cheesie> !msn
[06:52] <ubotu> Not a clue, cheesie
[06:52] <snorks> Hoxzer: apt-cache search vlc | grep alsa
[06:52] <cheesie> !web
[06:52] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, cheesie
[06:52] <cheesie> !mozilla
[06:52] <ubotu> cheesie: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> does anyone know why xine 0.99.3 locks up when i switch to fullscreen??
[06:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> Anybody even use xine?
[06:52] <snorks> Hoxzer: or whatever sound daemon you use, of course
[06:52] <runeh> yancheng: Is smartindent on?
[06:53] <yancheng> oh, maybe i should turn it on.
[06:53] <runeh> Not if you don't want autoindenting.
[06:54] <yancheng> runeh: ya, i turn both off. but when i edit c file, i still auto indent after ()
[06:54] <Hoxzer> Snokrs: seems not to work
[06:55] <snorks> Hoxzer: you installed alsa drivers?
[06:55] <Hoxzer> I use sound deamon
[06:55] <snorks> Hoxzer: you might want to go for the esd plugin aswell, since ubuntu uses that by default
[06:55] <Hoxzer> other players can play the sound but they dont shot the video
[06:55] <snorks> Hoxzer: ok so you installed the eSound plugin for VLC?
[06:56] <Hoxzer> no
[06:56] <snorks> Hoxzer: What didy ou do then?
[06:56] <reagleBRKLN> i have a usb port, sometimes i plug a vfat mp3 player in, sometimes a ext3 external drive. how can i configure it to work properly? or rather, i keep the external drive fat32, because when its ext3 and i specify "/dev/sda1       /media/sda1     autio" in /etc/fstab, it won't work
[06:56] <darklinuxer> h everybody
[06:56] <snorks> hi darklinuxer
[06:56] <runeh> yancheng: That probably has something to do with the C-specifics in the configuration files.
[06:56] <cheesie> !redhat
[06:56] <ubotu> cheesie: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:56] <DarkEye> nope
[06:56] <cheesie> !irc
[06:56] <ubotu> I guess irc is Internet Relay Chat. It is a virtual network with servers allowing connections from clients where many people connect and chat with each other related to Linux or even sex.
[06:56] <darklinuxer> h
[06:56] <darklinuxer> how r u
[06:56] <cheesie> darkeye it did work
[06:56] <cheesie> Dark type !java
[06:56] <DarkEye> not for me
[06:56] <runeh> yancheng: You could try to set nocindent as well.
[06:56] <reagleBRKLN> so i keep both fat32 and specify that in the fstab, but would like to plug in different file systems
[06:56] <DarkEye> !java
[06:56] <ubotu> I guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:56] <cheesie> there
[06:56] <cheesie> follow them
[06:56] <cheesie> it takes ages
[06:56] <cheesie> but works
[06:57] <Hoxzer> snorks: installed alsa
[06:57] <darklinuxer> snorks
[06:57] <darklinuxer> ?
[06:57] <Hoxzer> "apt-cache search vlc | grep eSound"
[06:57] <Hoxzer> is that the command?
[06:57] <cheesie> !clients
[06:57] <ubotu> cheesie: I don't know
[06:57] <snorks> Hoxzer: ok there's two alternatives then. Either disable the esd, or install the esd-output plugin for VLC
[06:57] <cheesie> !scripts
[06:57] <ubotu> No idea, cheesie
[06:57] <cheesie> bye all
[06:57] <cheesie> !bye
[06:57] <ubotu> cheesie: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:57] <cheesie> lol
[06:57] <snorks> Hoxzer: I suggest disabling esd and use ALSA instead, as it's faster
[06:58] <snorks> Hoxzer: anyway, iof youy disalbe the daemon, you want to select alsaoupyt in VLC, or esd output if you dont disable it
[06:58] <darklinuxer> byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sht
[06:58] <snorks> Hoxzer: /typo on :P
[06:58] <Hoxzer> Snorks: ok...
[06:58] <darklinuxer> sht sht ts sht only sht
[06:59] <snorks> shhh
[06:59] <darklinuxer> ?
[06:59] <Hoxzer> Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'
[06:59] <snorks> hm
[06:59] <darklinuxer> ????????????????????
[06:59] <arachnion> hello
[06:59] <darklinuxer> hello?
[06:59] <darklinuxer> o ne ya
[06:59] <arachnion> I want to install a .rpm package
[06:59] <arachnion> so I need to alien it
[06:59] <darklinuxer> ok
[07:00] <darklinuxer> ok