[16:51] <kesi> Pici, kll, then unity-panel-service no process found
[16:51] <kesi> Pici, command line after install
[16:51] <k1l> kesi: i assume you are using startx or something?
[16:51] <Pici> kesi: you should be starting it from your login manager (lightdm by default)
[16:51] <kesi> kll, I don't know what that is. This is a virtual machine with Ubuntu precise 12.04
[16:51] <k1l> kesi: keep in mind to give as much info as you can: we dont see what you see
[16:52] <username_> hello
[16:52] <k1l> kesi: do a "sudo start lightdm" or replace start with restart
[16:52] <kesi> kll, gotcha
[16:53] <kesi> kll, unknown job: lightdm
[16:53] <kesi> kll, installing that now
[16:54] <k1l> kesi: the ubuntu-desktop package should have installed that, iirc
[16:54] <kesi> kll, it doesn't seem to have. Even tried through tasksel
[16:54] <kesi> kll, so, I started lightdm
[16:55] <k1l> choose your user account and the ubuntu session in there
[16:56] <subdesign> what do you think can I cancel Brasero image checksum after burning an image?
[16:57] <kesi> kll, it's not liking my password even though I know it's right. Going to try to start over
[16:57] <kesi> kll, or, rather, reboot
[16:58] <k1l> kesi: make sure its not the root account you try to login. and keep things like shift or different keyboard layouts in mind
[16:58] <kesi> kll, it's got my full name instead of username. I do have a caps in my password.. is there something I have to do to get the shift to work?
[16:59] <pyro254750> anybody have a recomendation for .nzb client
[17:00] <sgtkilljoy> pyro254750: sabnzbd+
[17:00] <kesi> kll, reboot took me right back here
[17:00] <kesi> kll, can't log in although it seems to try to go to a screen adn then return
[17:00] <pyro254750> thanks sgtkilljoy
[17:01] <kesi> kll, Guest session doesn't work either
[17:01] <k1l> kesi: take a look into the .xsession-errors in the home of the user. there should be logged if the xserver got a problem
[17:03] <ag4913_> i am looking for help installing ubuntu
[17:03] <ag4913_> can someone please help me a bit
[17:03] <sgtkilljoy> ag4913: wats the prob?
[17:03] <pyro254750> what issue are you having ag4913
[17:04] <ag4913> I've tried installing with the windows installer
[17:04] <ag4913> it rebooted, i had to choose ubuntu instead of windows
[17:04] <ag4913> and then it started to count down from 5 saying that it would complete the installation
[17:05] <macswell> My laptop hardlocks when switching from ac-power to battery. This does not happen if I put it into suspend first (or use Windows). I currently have 12.04 x64 installed, how might I go about troubleshooting this?
[17:05] <ag4913> it counted down to '0' and now has been sitting there for 10 minutes
[17:05] <vitor> i have a problema. i installed the wine 1.4. and now i am trying to install a .exe but i have this error: unable no initialize installer GUI. how can i solve this?
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> vitor  #winehq
[17:06] <pyro254750> vitor, check http://appdb.winehq.org and make sure the game you are trying to install works
[17:09] <vitor> it's not a game. it's microsoft windows 7 usb dvd tool
[17:10] <ovidiu-florin> vitor: try running it from command line
[17:10] <vitor> with "wine program.exe" ?
[17:10] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[17:11] <pyro254750> isnt the usb/dvd tool just used to burn an iso of the windows 7 installation image?
[17:11] <vitor> same error
[17:11] <vitor> yes pyro
[17:11] <ovidiu-florin> google that error
[17:11] <pyro254750> ubuntu can burn images natively
[17:11] <Dizzle> wouldnt unetbootin do the same?
[17:11] <ovidiu-florin> Dizzle: yes it would
[17:12] <ovidiu-florin> actually unetbootin is jut for USB drives, not for burning CD/DVD's
[17:12] <sgtkilljoy> or usb-imagewriter
[17:13] <melvin_>  /show window 3
[17:13] <pyro254750> vitor: you can burn the image natively from within ubuntu. If im not mistaken you have to purchase the iso to use the usb/dvd download tool, and it downloads the iso and burns it for you. So what that means for you, is that since you have purchased a license, you can download the .iso from torrent or newsgroups and use your legal serial and have a 100% legit copy of windows
[17:14] <pyro254750> vitor: that would allow you to burn the image natively and not have to mess with wine
[17:14]  * simpledot e
[17:14] <iwl3945> Hi every body! I just install lucid lynx and the wifi does not work, activate wifi is unclickable
[17:15] <ag4913> hey I'm looking for some help installing ubuntu
[17:15] <ag4913> anybody got a good mind for it?
[17:15] <pyro254750> ag4913: try rebooting and seeing if the installer picks back up
[17:15] <xangua> iwl3945: just installed¿ you are aware that lucid has only a copuple more months of support right¿
[17:16] <pyro254750> iwl3945: you will probably have better results with 12.04 unless you have some funky hardware
[17:16] <ag4913> pyro254750: i did. it did the same thing and now its just a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left
[17:16] <iwl3945> I love lucid lynx and i don't wanna move
[17:17] <ovidiu-florin> ag4913: what is the problem?
[17:17] <ag4913> I've tried installing with windows installer
[17:17] <pyro254750> ovidiu-florin: his install is hanging after reboot
[17:17] <iwl3945> pyro254750 you are somewhere right about. I NEED HELP PLEASE
[17:18] <pyro254750> iwl3945: what wifi adapter do you have
[17:18] <iwl3945> It is already installed
[17:18] <iwl3945> the driver is my nickname
[17:19] <macswell> My laptop hardlocks when switching from ac-power to battery. This does not happen if I put it into suspend first (or use Windows). I currently have 12.04 x64 installed, how might I go about troubleshooting this?
[17:20] <ag4913> having trouble installing ubuntu
[17:20] <ovidiu-florin> ag4913: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[17:20] <ag4913> can someone please help
[17:20] <pyro254750> iwl3945:  http://www.dotkam.com/2008/11/17/configure-iwl3945-driver-on-ubuntu/
[17:20] <nizor> hello
[17:20] <juk> !ask | ag4913
[17:20] <iwl3945> i run there...
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> ag4913: Which version and environment?
[17:21] <ag4913> ovidiu-florin: I'm using version 12.10
[17:21] <nizor> need help on how to connect to a restricted wireless network
[17:21] <nizor> ?
[17:22] <ovidiu-florin> ag4913: so you've tried to install it using the windows installer?
[17:22] <ag4913> ovidiu-florin:correct
[17:23] <ovidiu-florin> ag4913: at reboot does GRUB show up?
[17:23] <kicklighter> goodnight people...
[17:23] <ag4913> ovidiu-florin:when i do, i choose ubuntu, then it says completing ubuntu installation counts down from 5. then freezes
[17:24] <ag4913> ovidiu-florin: how do i determine if GRUB shows up
[17:24] <ovidiu-florin> !grub | ag4913
[17:24] <kesi> kll, Pici, are you guys still there? Had some unrelated network outage
[17:24] <kicklighter> i have an curious qestion...is it true that you can load kernels in wine?
[17:24] <SonikkuAmerica> ag4913: You can check the #grub channel for help with GRUB
[17:25] <ovidiu-florin> ag4913: it's a list of bootable systems that shows up after you power on you r computer
[17:26] <kicklighter> is there a submiter for my richdom
[17:26] <LIDH> hello
[17:26] <LIDH> anyone out there to help me with some issues on Ubuntu 12.10?
[17:26] <ovidiu-florin> ag4913: try removing ubuntu from windows and then reinstalling it
[17:26] <kicklighter> what's on? with you ubuntu 12.10
[17:26] <ovidiu-florin> !ask | LIDH
[17:26] <LIDH> can't get touch to work
[17:26] <SonikkuAmerica> nizor: Restricted network you said?
[17:27] <LIDH> i have a POS EBN X-950 and i can't find the touchscreen device
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> another wubi issue?
[17:27] <nizor> SonikkuAmerica yes
[17:27] <LIDH> lsusb doesn't pick anything, screen /dev/ttyS* doesn't either
[17:27] <ovidiu-florin> MonkeyDust: are you reffering to ag4913 's problem?
[17:27] <nizor> SonikkuAmerica so? :)
[17:28] <kicklighter> wubi...do a plain install with your furfilness in handman craft an you see it works even better
[17:28] <ovidiu-florin> ag4913: can you boot in windows?
[17:28] <SonikkuAmerica> nizor: You said you were having issues connecting. Tell me more.
[17:29] <LIDH> it appears to be EgalaxTouch, but can't find the interface
[17:29] <kicklighter> plug your utp in..maybe it helps
[17:29] <LIDH> can't get it listed anywhere :s
[17:29] <LIDH> anyone to do a private and help me?
[17:30] <kicklighter> i will do a ltile private work..what's the prob?
[17:33] <kicklighter> me my self have prob...can i load the kernel of windows nt 4.0 in wine...anyone expiernce
[17:33] <SonikkuAmerica> !wine | kicklighter
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> kicklighter  better ask in #winehq
[17:35] <kicklighter> it wasn't just a idea...i will. sort it out myself. ..do you people grant the alwsne to kitle in this chatroom???
[17:35] <jhutchins> SonikkuAmerica: please don't feed the trolls.
[17:36] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins: Not intended....
[17:36] <kicklighter> amazing piece a os ubuntu i was gazded with the easyness of it...maybe soneday the create an ever better gui
[17:37] <kicklighter> anyone in this chatroom for some smalltalk....????
[17:38] <ThinkT510> !ot | kicklighter
[17:38] <kicklighter> bye
[17:38] <nizor> SonikkuAmerica i see the network, its close to my house, but if you try connecting....it just *try* and then tells you cannot connect...its accepts only systems that it has in its databse... something of such nature....my friend's system is on its database so he connects eaasily
[17:39] <shanttu> Greetings. I've had some kernel-crashes. Now usr/share/apport/kernel_crashdump is consuming 100% cpu. Should I kill it or just wait?
[17:41] <ihatewinbad> I hope this counts as a support topic.... Is Startup Disk Creator the only app to burn ISO's usable as boot, similar to Universal USB Installer?
[17:41] <LIDH> anyone to help me with touchscreen problems?
[17:42] <pyro254750> ihatewinbad: are you trying to burn an iso from within ubuntu?
[17:42] <jhutchins> ihatewinbad: Any bootable iso image can be burned to disc using one of many applications.
[17:42] <jhutchins> !burn
[17:42] <opalepatrick> can I locate apache on a shared partition so that I can access from different distros. Done it with everything else, but not knowledgeable yet enough to work this through.
[17:42] <shanttu> ihatewinbad, I like multisystem http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[17:43] <Kruemmel_m0nster> Hey guys i need serious help
[17:44] <ihatewinbad> pyro254750: I am trying to create a boot so I can Side-by-Side MInt 14.
[17:44] <pyro254750> do you already have the iso downloaded?
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> Kruemmel_m0nster  start with a question
[17:44] <ihatewinbad> Yes I do.
[17:44] <Kruemmel_m0nster> Any1 has some skills with data recovery? Issued rm -r in the wrong directory
[17:44] <pyro254750> right click iso and select write to disc
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> !recover | Kruemmel_m0nster
[17:45] <ThinkT510> !undelete | Kruemmel_m0nster
[17:45] <ihatewinbad> From there will I be able to make it boot from the Flash Drive correct?
[17:46] <Kruemmel_m0nster> By the way its ntfs
[17:46] <pyro254750> so you arent trying to burn a mint iso to a dvd, your trying to burn it to a flash drive? or you are trying to create a boot disk to install from the flash drive? please clarify
[17:47] <ihatewinbad> Boot Disk to Install from the flash drive.
[17:47] <pyro254750> you can select boot device when pc is booting up, usually something like f12 during post check, and select usb device
[17:48] <ihatewinbad> That's not the issue I am having. I am just not sure what application would work best to write the ISO image, so I can boot it.
[17:48] <terkyi> hi, ubuntu cannot detect wireless wifi capability on my laptop. I think the card is fried. Is there a way to check though through terminal? wired ethernet internet works fine
[17:49] <Kruemmel_m0nster> Please anyone? :-(
[17:49] <ihatewinbad> Startup Disk Creator, the app I attempted would not accept the ISO images.
[17:51] <sw> Hi, what's the default Terminal font and size in Ubuntu?
[17:51] <pyro254750> ihatewinbad: sudo dd if=mint14.iso of=/dev/sdc
[17:51] <pyro254750> ihatewinbad: that is assuming that the device is sdc. Perform this with it unmounted
[17:51] <boze> I put alias aptana="/home/boze/Documents/Aptana_Studio_3/AptanaStudio3 " in my .bashrc, but it won't run from the command line :(
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> Kruemmel_m0nster  http://askubuntu.com/questions/59968/recover-accidentally-removed-files-on-ntfs-partition#59971
[17:52] <useless1> pyro254750: I am back I follow all the steps but no wifi at all
[17:52] <useless1> pyro254750: It was iwl3945 last time
[17:52] <LIDH> anyone to help me with touchscreen problems?
[17:53] <ihatewinbad> its sdb, but where you put sdc I should input sdb correct?
[17:53] <Kruemmel_m0nster> MonkeyDust: thanks but my problem with this is that i want to recover every file
[17:53] <TPB-AFK> !offtopic
[17:53] <pyro254750> ihatewinbad: correct. The iso name should match your iso as well
[17:54] <LIDH> *lifts hand and waits for anyone to pay attention*
[17:54] <ihatewinbad> alright I will try it and get back to you. Thank you.
[17:54] <pythonsnake> Can I ask Ubuntu Server questions here?
[17:54] <pythonsnake> #ubuntu-server
[17:54] <pythonsnake>  is really quiet
[17:55] <useless1> I can not use my wifi point this a fresh install ubuntu lucid lynx, perhaps it's over but I think there is a solution to my problem
[17:56] <ThinkT510> useless1: what chipset?
[17:56] <LIDH> So, I have Ubuntu 12.10 and a POS system EBN X-950 with touchscreen (EgalaxyTouch according to the manual), so, i tried $lsusb and it doesn't list the touchscreen controller. If I do a screen /dev/ttyS[0-4] can't get any input from the touchscreen. Already did $ modprobe -r usbtouchscreen and still doesn't detect, any ideas what's the problem?
[17:57] <useless1> the driver name is iwl3945, which command can i type to full inform you about?
[17:57] <pythonsnake> #ubuntu-server
[17:57] <pythonsnake> oops
[17:57] <OerHeks> LIDH, if you don't get responce, try #ubuntu-touch * i have no touch experience
[17:57] <LIDH> ah, thank's i'll go there
[17:58] <Ghostring> hey guys, any idea why i get this on bootinfoscript: Mounting failed:   mount: unknown filesystem type ''... it's a windows disk i cloned with DD  (both ntfs) , it was able to see the files on ubuntu but after i ran the windows boot repair it screwed the windows disk
[17:58] <terkyi> why is my wifi card hard blocked? and what does that mean? http://pastebin.com/7C6kx6A3
[17:59] <OerHeks> !bootinfoscript
[17:59] <ihatewinbad> pyro254750: Real quick, when I type the filename of the ISO, and type the command you told me, it tells me there is no such file or directory. How do I tell it where the file is?
[17:59] <OerHeks> Ghostring, not sure it will fix windows problems
[17:59] <pyro254750> ihatewinbad: how did you download the iso?
[17:59] <Ghostring> OerHeks I can't see the disk on ubuntu, the content
[18:00] <ihatewinbad> I downloaded it straight from linuxmint.com and saved it when prompted.
[18:00] <Ghostring> Contents: unknown... I just want to understand why ubuntu can't even open the disk since it was able the first time
[18:00] <nizor> SonikkuAmerica So? pls help if u've got idea
[18:02]  * wwilkins tests this out
[18:02] <pyro254750> did you do it from chrome?
[18:02] <zebra> hej jest tam kto ?
[18:02] <ihatewinbad> No, Firefox.
[18:03] <pyro254750> file should be located in /home/yourusername/Downloads
[18:03] <opalepatrick> annoying thing in unity 12.10 - system has a problem, get message box asking if I want to report it, say yes, password, then it either disappears or starts again.. maybe three times. Annoying... any clues?
[18:03] <ihatewinbad> So through the terminal how do I tell it to look there?
[18:03] <Ghostring> gonna reboot and try crazy things them :(
[18:03] <opalepatrick> Dont think I ever report anything
[18:04] <pyro254750> from terminal type cd /home/yourusername/Downloads
[18:04] <ihatewinbad> ok let me try that.
[18:04] <pyro254750> then type dir and you should get a list of files in that folder
[18:04] <pyro254750> and you should see the iso
[18:04] <pyro254750> then run the command i gave you earlier
[18:05] <mr_inferior> i type in >> sudo ./configure and get this output: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[18:05] <jhutchins> mr_inferior: So you conclude what?
[18:06] <LIDH> In ubuntu 12.10 how do I list every device plugged in? (com, USB, LPT)
[18:06] <ioria> terkiy: are you using encryption ?
[18:07] <pyro254750> mr_inferior: that error indicates that you dont have build-essential installed
[18:08] <beowulf2> anyone know any good games for linux? preferably non-violent ones
[18:08] <LIDH> In ubuntu 12.10 how do I list every device plugged in? (com, USB, LPT)
[18:08] <OerHeks> LIDH, lshw / lsusb / lspci
[18:09] <LIDH> but it doesn't list my touchscreen device
[18:09] <ThinkT510> !games | beowulf2
[18:09] <LIDH> can't detect the EgalaxTouch
[18:09] <LIDH> even with the drivers installed it doesn't show up
[18:10] <LIDH> any ideas on what it could be?
[18:11] <Andre_de1> hi
[18:18] <Andre_de1> g
[18:19] <d3javu> hi all
[18:19] <LIDH> So, I have Ubuntu 12.10 and a POS system EBN X-950 with touchscreen (EgalaxyTouch according to the manual), so, i tried $lsusb and it doesn't list the touchscreen controller. If I do a screen /dev/ttyS[0-4] can't get any input from the touchscreen. Already did $ modprobe -r usbtouchscreen and still doesn't detect, any ideas what's the problem?
[18:20] <shukty> HI, i ve a prob. with my 12.10 x64 and driver ati. I m using a laptop and till now np , but today my ati config set my resolution to 4000*4000 and it s kinda impossible 'due i m sure my lapt it s quite ancient and ... how can i set it manually ? tnx dudes
[18:21] <frustro> cr90255
[18:21] <eggplant-expert> shutky what ati card is that model
[18:22] <shukty>  Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
[18:22] <shukty>  minimum 320 x 200, current 1366 x 768, maximum 1600 x 1600
[18:22] <pyro254750> shukty: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:23] <beowulf2> !games
[18:23] <pyro254750> once resolution is edited to where you want it you will need to restart x
[18:23] <tworkin> I'm trying to install a python script as a daemon via upstart. I have my .conf file in /etc/init, and can issue `start foo`; the problem seems to be this script calls git/ssh at a few points, so it needs an SSH key. what user does upstart start my script as?
[18:23] <alusion> Hey ubuntu I just checked my logs and apparently I have java listening on port 4242 and 4243 and so I suspect some kind of compromise what actions should I take right now?
[18:23] <shukty> ok i ll try pyro
[18:23] <Rienzilla> alusion: i'd recommend pulling the network plug of the machine as a first order of business
[18:23] <LIDH> So, I have Ubuntu 12.10 and a POS system EBN X-950 with touchscreen (EgalaxyTouch according to the manual), so, i tried $lsusb and it doesn't list the touchscreen controller. If I do a screen /dev/ttyS[0-4] can't get any input from the touchscreen. Already did $ modprobe -r usbtouchscreen and still doesn't detect, any ideas what's the problem?
[18:24] <Rienzilla> if you are interested in what or who compromised you, investigate
[18:24] <Rienzilla> and then the only real solution is a clean reinstall of the machine
[18:24] <alusion> I will investigate yes.
[18:24] <alusion> how can I just close the port
[18:25] <Rienzilla> you can put it in your firewall, but it's a better idea to just disconnect the machine (not reboot it just disconnect it)
[18:25] <tworkin> alusion: kill the process, or iptables can ban specific ports
[18:25] <Rienzilla> since you can't know what else they have access to
[18:25] <LIDH> just shutdown the computer, it's the safest way
[18:25] <Rienzilla> if you shut it down you cannot investigate
[18:26] <LIDH> that's a problem
[18:26] <LIDH> but, you won't be attacked either, if it is shut down
[18:26] <Rienzilla> you ccan also set it on fire
[18:26] <Rienzilla> that's also a very secure solution
[18:26] <Rienzilla> :)
[18:26] <LIDH> yes, and then grab a notebook and start working as it used to be a few years ago
[18:27] <LIDH> the idea of setting it on fire, may not be the safest, there's a possibility for data recovery after that
[18:27] <LIDH> maybe some acid or something
[18:27] <navetz> hello, can someone please help me fix eclipse. It is very very slow, I'm using Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_11-b21) with eclipse Juno
[18:28] <alusion> hmm so my iptables command should look something like this:
[18:29] <alusion> sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 4242 -j DROP
[18:29] <alusion> repeat for 4243 as well, does it check out?
[18:29] <nullby7e> my video card with default drivers cannot be used it's very slowly, but when i install proper drivers when i start X i don't have icons start menu etc. just background wallpaper, how to fix that?
[18:29] <LIDH> So, I have Ubuntu 12.10 and a POS system EBN X-950 with touchscreen (EgalaxyTouch according to the manual), so, i tried $lsusb and it doesn't list the touchscreen controller. If I do a screen /dev/ttyS[0-4] can't get any input from the touchscreen. Already did $ modprobe -r usbtouchscreen and still doesn't detect, any ideas what's the problem?
[18:29] <bean> alusion: yes, but remember that iptables is a first-match-wins sort of thing
[18:29] <bean> so if you have earlier rules that allow
[18:31] <Eliadar> !list
[18:32] <Eliadar> il cavaliere oscuro
[18:32] <bean> !it | Eliadar
[18:33] <bean> Eliadar: but this is not a channel for movies.
[18:33] <mrdeb> does alternate installer allow wifi connect
[18:33] <mrdeb> ?
[18:33] <Eliadar> ok where is channel for movie?
[18:34] <bean> Eliadar: probably not on this network
[18:34] <Eliadar> xdcc?
[18:34] <bean> Eliadar: no.
[18:35] <dirkounet> hello, which ftp-server do you advise to use on ubuntu 12.04 : pureftp or proftp or smth else?
[18:35] <bean> Eliadar: Non ci sono film su questa rete.
[18:35] <bean> dirkounet: I like vsftpd but that's a personal opinion
[18:35] <nullby7e> my video card with default drivers cannot be used it's very slowly, but when i install proper drivers when i start X i don't have icons start menu etc. just background wallpaper, how to fix that?
[18:36] <_methods> vsftpd
[18:36] <dirkounet> does vsftp also provide a virtual user concept such as pure-ftp?
[18:37] <bean> dirkounet: yes, i think.
[18:37] <_methods> http://howto.gumph.org/content/setup-virtual-users-and-directories-in-vsftpd/
[18:37] <bean> dirkounet ^
[18:38] <tworkin> in an upstart job, Ii'm trying to activate a python virtual environment via the "source" command. I get this error: /proc/self/fd/9: 3: /proc/self/fd/9: source: not found
[18:38] <tworkin> can you 'source' in a upstart script block?
[18:42] <LIDH> How do I get ubuntu 12.10 to detect more than 4 COM ports?
[18:44] <jrib> tworkin: you might want to try #upstart too
[18:44] <escott> twobitsprite, /bin/sh is not bash
[18:44] <escott> tworkin, ^^^
[18:44] <_methods> LIDH: have you tried setserial?
[18:44] <LIDH> how do i do that?
[18:44] <LIDH> all i know is it only appears listed com 1 to 4
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> twobitsprite  bash is ba sh bourne again shell
[18:45] <_methods> under dmesg?
[18:45] <LIDH> yes
[18:45] <_methods> and you have more than that?
[18:45] <LIDH> and i know it has more
[18:45] <_methods> hrmm
[18:45] <escott> tworkin, either use the proper POSIX commands "." in this case, or explicitely use bash
[18:46] <LIDH> i already did a few things
[18:46] <jhutchins> LIDH: Where are the other com ports?  On an extender card?  USB?
[18:46] <LIDH> i think the dmesg | ls -/dev/tty only shows 4
[18:46] <LIDH> it's a POS system
[18:46] <LIDH> it has internal and external coms
[18:46] <_methods> try dmesg | grep tty
[18:46] <KC4LZN> Is there any references for writing rules in udev other than man pages? I've looked at this site http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html but it doesn't cover 12.04
[18:46] <LIDH> i'll try, brb
[18:48] <dlsensei_xubuntu> hi
[18:48] <dlsensei_xubuntu> everyone
[18:49] <LIDH> did that and it shows: first row serial8250 ttyS[0-3]
[18:49] <_methods> hrmm
[18:50] <dlsensei_xubuntu> hey guys got a dell studio 1537 trying to install wireless driver
[18:50] <LIDH> and then repeats the same as: 00:05 ttyS0
[18:50] <LIDH> to 4
[18:50] <LIDH> and then 00:06, and so on
[18:50] <LIDH> until 00:09
[18:50] <dlsensei_xubuntu> i used the sta one but my dlink doesnt shows up only my neighbours do
[18:50] <_methods> well back to what jhutchins said is it usb, or where are the ports
[18:50] <_methods> on a card
[18:50] <dlsensei_xubuntu> works fine on win 7
[18:50] <_methods> and how many ports are there
[18:50] <dlsensei_xubuntu> helloo
[18:51] <rypervenche> !ask | dlsensei_xubuntu
[18:51] <rypervenche> dlsensei_xubuntu: Err, wrong one. Please be patient, someone will answer you.
[18:51] <LIDH> well, the ports are on the bottom of the POS
[18:51] <_methods> how many ports are there?
[18:52] <LIDH> in BIOS it detects 8
[18:52] <jhutchins> LIDH: IBM?
[18:52] <makerbreakr> hi, is it possible to restart lightdm from a cron job?
[18:52] <LIDH> EBN X-950
[18:52] <jhutchins> LIDH: You're not working for Core are you?
[18:52] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: Sure.
[18:52] <B3N--10> hello
[18:52] <LIDH> http://www.ebn-pos.com/products/X-POS-950-Sandy-Bridge-Quad-Dual-core.php
[18:52] <makerbreakr> rypervenche, I have tried all variations
[18:52] <LIDH> working for core?
[18:52] <makerbreakr> and I can not get it to restart
[18:53] <makerbreakr> service, /etc/init.d, full paths, etc
[18:53] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: how often do you want it to restart?
[18:53] <makerbreakr> I have the timing done, I just cant get lightdm to restart
[18:53] <LIDH> what's core?
[18:53] <makerbreakr> let me gist
[18:54] <makerbreakr> https://gist.github.com/4611554 thats my latest iteration
[18:54] <_methods> LIDH: you acn try setserial -g /dev/ttyS[01234567]
[18:54] <LIDH> so it says it has 5 RS232 and then 3 internal
[18:54] <LIDH> ok, let me try
[18:54] <makerbreakr> I tried /sbin/service, /etc/init.d/lightdm etc
[18:54] <LIDH> brb
[18:54] <makerbreakr> the first command works just fine fwiw
[18:55] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: two questions
[18:55] <makerbreakr> shoot
[18:55] <jhutchins> I believe the ubuntu kernel is compiled to use only 4 serial ports.
[18:55] <_methods> hrmm
[18:55] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: What is the exit code coming from that fist command? and did you add this to root's crontab?
[18:55] <makerbreakr> it is /etc/cron.d/
[18:55] <jhutchins> Could someone check one of the config files in boot and search for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e2fJfiddx4
[18:55] <jhutchins> Arg, bufferbusted again.
[18:56] <jhutchins> CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RUNTIME_UARTS=
[18:56] <makerbreakr> and, Im not sure what the exit code is from the first command, but it should be completing successfully
[18:56] <makerbreakr> (ie, the file does get moved)
[18:56] <jhutchins> I suspect it's CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RUNTIME_UARTS=4
[18:56] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: try doing it from root's cron (sudo crontab -e)
[18:56] <vlaca> jhutchins: says 32
[18:56] <jhutchins> (That video by the way is a very nice rendition of Stairway by Heart, with some interesting people in the audience.)
[18:56] <LIDH> so, it only detects 4
[18:57] <jhutchins> vlaca: Interesting, that's changed.
[18:57] <LIDH> i did setserial -g /dev/ttyS[0-9]
[18:57] <vlaca> (on 12.10)
[18:57] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: root mv /etc/X11/91-ServerFlags.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/91-ServerFlags.conf; echo $? > /root/exitcode
[18:57] <LIDH> and only ttyS[0-4] got detected
[18:57] <jhutchins> LIDH: Double check the config file on your system.
[18:57] <LIDH> ok, how?
[18:57] <LIDH> sudo nano /etc/config?
[18:57] <LIDH> where's the config file?
[18:58] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: The exit code may still not be 0, in which case the && will prevent lightdm from restarting.
[18:58] <jhutchins> grep CONFIG_SERIAL /boot/coinfig-`uname -r`
[18:58] <jhutchins> config
[18:58] <jhutchins> grep CONFIG_SERIAL /boot/config-`uname -r`
[18:58] <makerbreakr> rypervenche, if I put any other command there it works
[18:58] <makerbreakr> ie /sbin/reboot
[18:59] <makerbreakr> exitcode is 127
[18:59] <rypervenche> that's why
[18:59] <jhutchins> LIDH: Probably not a bad idea to just grep CONFIG_SERIAL /boot/config-`uname r`
[18:59] <shock_one> Hi. Is there any way to make Ubuntu wake up faster? It takes about 8 seconds compared to 2 in OS X on the same hardware.
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> shock_one  more swap, maybe
[19:01] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: It may be because it is overwriting an old file, in which case using mv -f may work.
[19:01] <LIDH> did that but it failed, maybe i'm doing it wrong
[19:01] <LIDH> did exactly as you typed here
[19:01] <roger_padactor> I installed a ubuntu image on ec2 the other day and when looking at the http conf folder it was missing the site-available and sites-enabled.  how do I have that setup?
[19:02] <makerbreakr> rypervenche, no go
[19:02] <shock_one> MonkeyDust, I don't have swap. As far as I know sleep (S3 mode) doesn't use HDD to store information from memory. How would swap help?
[19:02] <makerbreakr> i was able to have the exit code 127 and reboot the machien though, rather than restart lightdm
[19:02] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: I don't know what the 127 exit code is for though, so I can't say.
[19:02] <makerbreakr> i think its something to do with the way lightdm specifically works
[19:02] <RobinJ> in which channel do i need to be for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=synlnIErJKU ?
[19:03] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: not possible. You probably didn't have a 127 exit code that time that you did.
[19:03] <Pici> RobinJ: Please don't post random links here. If you have a question, just ask it.
[19:03] <RobinJ> ..... Pici not random.
[19:03] <makerbreakr> rypervenche, i am going to remove the mv part of it
[19:03] <jhutchins> LIDH: Ok, instead of the part in the ` marks, just use tab.
[19:03] <LIDH> so, how do i do that grep config_serial thing?
[19:03] <makerbreakr> and just have it run /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[19:03] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: You could use ; instead of &&
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> shock_one  would that be hibernate or suspend?
[19:03] <LIDH> ok
[19:04] <LIDH> brb, i have to go 2 floors down to get the POS
[19:04] <jhutchins> LIDH: I'm off digging through some old documentation on this.  Used to do POS myself.
[19:04] <shock_one> MonkeyDust, suspend.
[19:04] <LIDH> I really appreciate that, if we were neighbours i would pay you some cold beers ;)
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> shock_one  then use swap, it has to be larger than your ram
[19:04] <_methods> LIDH: you'll probably have to add som uarts to grub
[19:04] <Pici> RobinJ: #ubuntu-on-air
[19:04] <_methods> LIDH:
[19:05] <_methods> http://kiwi-hacker.blogspot.com/2010/12/adding-4-port-rs232-serial-pci-card-to.html
[19:05] <jaequery> I've got a strange problem. i'm at /, and i do "du -hs", it says total is 7.5GB,  but df -h shows my / is using 50GB. what gives?
[19:06] <bean> jaequery: are you doing sudo du -sh /
[19:06] <bean> ?
[19:06] <MoL0ToV> 00:04.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Device 0153 (rev 09) - what is this?
[19:06] <jaequery> yea I'm root
[19:06] <jhutchins> LIDH: If the kernel config is ok, you need to know what parameters the ports use - what IRQ and IO address.
[19:06] <makerbreakr> 07 01 * * 3  /usr/bin/service lightdm restart ; echo $? > /root/exitcode
[19:07] <bean> jaequery, not sure then.
[19:07] <makerbreakr> rypervenche, that yeilds no exit code in /root
[19:07] <shock_one> MonkeyDust, Can you explain why would it make waking up faster. I have some doubts about it — in suspend mode memory content isn't written out but remains in RAM.
[19:07] <makerbreakr> which is weird
[19:08] <soneri> ciao
[19:08] <soneri> !list
[19:08] <Capneon> join #ubuntu-wou
[19:09] <jhutchins> LIDH: Results?
[19:09] <LIDH> can't get over that code grep CONFIG_SERIAL
[19:09] <LIDH> keep getting directory not found
[19:09] <LIDH> :s
[19:09] <_methods> you try that link i sent you?
[19:09] <Capneon> join #ubuntu-wou
[19:09] <LIDH> still nothing..
[19:09] <jhutchins> grep CONFIG_SERIAL /boot/config<tab>
[19:10] <LIDH> i was trying, i have to take pictures of it with the mobile phone to do the commands
[19:10] <LIDH> i will bring it upstairs, brb
[19:10] <_methods> use andchat
[19:10] <_methods> android i'm assuming
[19:10] <_methods> then you can log in here with your phone
[19:11] <Capneon> #join ubuntu-wou
[19:11] <Pici> Capneon: What are you trying to do?
[19:11] <Capneon> join another room
[19:12] <Pici> Capneon: /join #channel
[19:12] <Capneon> ty
[19:12] <LIDH> yes but now i have it here next to me
[19:12] <LIDH> let me just switch it on
[19:12] <_methods> k
[19:14] <brontosaurusrex> lmao
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> shock_one  apologies, it's hibernation that uses swap, not suspend
[19:15] <LIDH> so, the grep CONFIG_SERIAL /boot/config
[19:15] <jhutchins> MonkeyDust: I prefer to use "suspend to disk" or "suspend to ram" - "sleep" and "hibernate" can mean either.
[19:15] <LIDH> pressing tab gives me /boot/config-3.5.0-
[19:16] <jhutchins> LIDH: press tab again.
[19:16] <jhutchins> LIDH: and/or do uname -r and see what's running. It's probably whatever the higher number is.
[19:17] <LIDH> i'll get the chat in the pos so i can Copy/paste
[19:17] <LIDH> just a sec
[19:17] <_methods> ssh into it
[19:17] <LIDH> that's easy to talk if you understand how to do it..
[19:18] <_methods> oh
[19:18] <LIDH> if it's easy, i could do
[19:18] <_methods> well do you know it's ip address
[19:18] <_methods> and are you using linux right now?
[19:18] <_methods> or windows
[19:18] <LIDH> windows
[19:18] <jhutchins> LIDH: up arrow will repeat the previous command.
[19:18] <_methods> well if you have it right there just do whatever is easiest
[19:19] <_methods> learning ssh is a whole other bag of cats
[19:19] <shock_one> jhutchins, I specified that I use S3 mode. It has pretty unambiguous meaning :-)
[19:19] <jhutchins> LIDH: There's a free program called putty that will let you connect to a linux box running sshd.  Very handy.
[19:19] <_methods> ^^
[19:20] <jhutchins> shock_one: Maybe to you.  I don't know an S3 from a K2500.
[19:20] <jhutchins> LIDH: In fact, if this box is going to be some kind of server, ssh is pretty much essential.
[19:21] <amews_aj-study> After installing guest additions in ubuntu 10.04 running inside latest Virtualbox, the taskbar never appears after login. It seems to freeze on the desktop (only background visible). Ideas?
[19:22] <jhutchins> amews_aj-study: Isn't 10.4 pretty old?
[19:22] <amews_aj-study> True, but it's the last LTS before unity, which I don't like
[19:22] <tkeith> Is there a way to have kvm/libvirt VMs automatically save before shutdown and resume after startup? (so automatic security update reboots can not kill off VMs)
[19:24] <LIDH_> hello, i'm now on the POS
[19:25] <amews_aj-study> jhutchins, suggestions?
[19:25] <LIDH_> config-3.5.0-17-generic  config-3.5.0-22-generic
[19:25] <ikonia> LIDH_: POS?
[19:25] <LIDH_> i get this if i press tab
[19:25] <LIDH_> if i do grep CONFIG_SERIAL /boot/config
[19:27] <dlam> hey how do i find what package has a command?  I'm looking for the one that has `dig`
[19:28] <jhutchins> LIDH: Sorry, multitasking again.  If you type 2<tab> it should complete the 22-generic.
[19:28] <jhutchins> LIDH: We'll assume it's running the most recent.
[19:29] <LIDH> yes got it
[19:29] <LIDH_> CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_NR_UARTS=48
[19:29] <LIDH_> CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RUNTIME_UARTS=32
[19:30] <jhutchins> Ok, cool, we now know your kernel supports up to 32 ports.
[19:30] <jhutchins> cat /proc/tty/driver/serial
[19:31] <LIDH> after 4 i get IRQ0
[19:31] <jhutchins> LIDH: Might need sudo with that.
[19:31] <LIDH> yes already did, after 4 i get unknown
[19:31] <LIDH> before that i get uart:16550A Port:xxxxxx
[19:32] <LIDH_> 0: uart:16550A port:000003F8 irq:4 tx:2340 rx:0 RTS|DTR
[19:32] <LIDH_> 1: uart:16550A port:000002F8 irq:3 tx:2340 rx:0 RTS|DTR
[19:32] <LIDH_> 2: uart:16550A port:000003E8 irq:5 tx:2340 rx:0 RTS|DTR
[19:32] <LIDH_> 3: uart:16550A port:000002E8 irq:5 tx:2340 rx:0 RTS|DTR
[19:32] <LIDH_> 4: uart:16550A port:000002F0 irq:10 tx:2340 rx:0 RTS|DTR
[19:32] <LIDH_> 5: uart:unknown port:00000000 irq:0
[19:32] <g16> How do I launch the default mail client without knowing its name, via terminal? Sort of default-mail command?
[19:32] <Pici> !paste | LIDH_
[19:32] <jhutchins> LIDH: Ok, so you've got five ports.
[19:33] <LIDH> no, it has more
[19:33] <LIDH> i didnt paste more..it has until 31
[19:33] <LIDH> since all are unknow
[19:33] <jhutchins> LIDH: Right, because it's set to have 32 ports available, but only sees the hardware for 5.
[19:33] <jhutchins> !paste
[19:34] <LIDH> yes thats it
[19:34] <LIDH> so, how do i identify if it has any hardware plugged=
[19:34] <disharmonic> hey guys
[19:35] <LIDH> all this mess is because it has a touch controller that isn't detected neither on USB or Serial
[19:35] <jhutchins> LIDH: Have to generate a signal from the hardware.
[19:35] <disharmonic> Is there an issue with Ubuntu and Cat 13.01? Both KDE and Unity are seriously misbehaving
[19:35] <LIDH> already did the command: screen /dev/ttyS[0-4] and it doesn't pick anything
[19:36] <phschwartz> can you install a local package with apt-get the way you can with yum localinstall?
[19:36] <Pici> phschwartz: no, you'd use dpkg fr that.
[19:36] <Pici> *for
[19:36] <fidel> phschwartz: dpkg -i path_to_local_package.deb
[19:37] <phschwartz> Pici: dpkg doesn't do any depenency resolution, and I am not a fan of telling users to then do an apt-get install -f after the package install fails
[19:38] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> (H)3ll0
[19:38] <Pici> phschwartz: gdebi will do dependency resolution, but thats probably not what you're looking for.
[19:38] <stef1a> hi. i'm using ubuntu 12.10, and whenever i boot, the brightness setting on my computer (hp probook 4535s) resets to maximum brightness. how can i force ubuntu to remember the brightness settings?
[19:39] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> cam0ver
[19:39] <Pici> Xx-MEGAFAB-xX: Can we help you?
[19:39] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> no :P
[19:39] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> Pici
[19:39] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> any hacker here :P ?
[19:40] <jhutchins> LIDH: That's not what screen does.
[19:40] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> any HACKER here ?
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> phschwartz  what you can: write a script that includes dpkg -i blah && sudo apt-get -f install, then alias that script to something simple for your users
[19:41] <h00k> Xx-MEGAFAB-xX: this isn't a hacker-search channel, it's an Ubuntu support channel. If you have an ubuntu related question, this is the place to ask it
[19:41] <jhutchins> LIDH: So, setserial -g /dev/ttyS[0-4] - does that show all 5?
[19:41] <h00k> Xx-MEGAFAB-xX: check out the topic for important info
[19:41] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> im not a fuckin n00b i know many hackers Joinc the IRC here :P
[19:41] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> cam0VER
[19:41] <LIDH> yes
[19:42] <LIDH> it displays all
[19:42] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> 200 Manhattan CAMERA's HACKED by World'sBrutal Hackers & MegaTeam - Xx-M E G A F A B -xX
[19:42] <DJones> Xx-MEGAFAB-xX: /remove Xx-MEGAFAB-xX Enough of that
[19:42] <disharmonic> So after updating to cat 13.1 both Unity and KDE fail to display a desktop. I can see the wallpaper and the UI flickers in and out. Any ideas?
[19:42] <phschwartz> DJones: ty
[19:42] <willem_> willem is Quit
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> disharmonic  what's cat 13.1 ?
[19:43] <disharmonic> MonkeyDust, AMD catalyst 13.01
[19:43] <jhutchins> LIDH: 0 & 1 are generic I/O, 2 is the MSR, 4 is the customer display.
[19:44] <jhutchins> LIDH: http://www.ebn-pos.com/products/Spec_X-POS-950.php
[19:44] <LIDH> hum, and the touchscreen?
[19:44] <LIDH> my problem is i cant connect the touchscreen
[19:44] <jhutchins> LIDH: I think we have to assume it's USB.
[19:44] <jhutchins> LIDH: Does it show up in lsusb?
[19:44] <LIDH> can't get it listed with dmesg | grep "USB"
[19:46] <lickalott> gents, whats the package name for the latest glib?  i've tried glib-2.34.3 glib2, glib2.34, glib-2.34
[19:48] <lantizia> Is there anyway to refer to $HOME or ~ in a desktop shortcut file?  Neither seem to be expanded
[19:48] <disharmonic> there's no errors in dmesg |tail and fgl_glxgears works fine
[19:48] <bipul> http://pastebin.com/2SswDcp2 can any one tell me what's wrong with this
[19:48] <trism> lickalott: for building code? libglib2.0-dev
[19:48] <h00k> lickalott: you can tab it out, libglib[tab]
[19:49] <zatan> Hej how can i set these permission on file ? -rwxr-xr-x
[19:49] <jhutchins> zatan: Use chmod
[19:49] <lickalott> zatan 421 421 421 rwx respectively
[19:49] <lickalott> chmod 744 <filename)
[19:49] <lickalott> *<filename>
[19:49] <bekks> chmod 755 ...
[19:49] <bekks> 4+1=5
[19:50] <lickalott> sry!!
[19:50] <lickalott> lol
[19:50] <lickalott> math in public
[19:50] <ultreia> lickalott- http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/glib/2.35/glib-2.35.4.tar.xz
[19:50] <zatan> nice one guys
[19:50] <lickalott> ultreia i just downloaded that, but I was getting irritated that I couldn't grab it out of the repos
[19:50] <lickalott> tks!
[19:50] <Nemis> hi guys
[19:50] <Nemis> I need some help
[19:50] <lickalott> ask
[19:51] <Nemis> InputStream xmlStream = getClass().getClassLoader().getResourceAsStream("/resources/midi.xml");
[19:51] <Nemis> returning null
[19:51] <Nemis> midi.xml is placed under src/main/resources
[19:51] <Pici> Nemis: Try the channel for whatever language you're writing that in/.
[19:51] <lickalott> c++ or java?
[19:51] <Nemis> i tought it is a java support channel
[19:51] <Pici> Nemis: This is #ubuntu
[19:51] <Nemis> do you know which channel or server I can use?
[19:51]  * lickalott looks at chan title
[19:51] <Pici> Nemis: join ##java
[19:52] <Nemis> ok sry
[19:52] <Nemis> oh, sry
[19:52] <Nemis> it automaticaly joined me to ubuntu i didnt notice
[19:52] <crawln> so is there a avconv channel to :P
[19:52] <Pici> !alis
[19:52] <disharmonic> Also 3d games work as they should. What could cause both kwin and compiz to have issues?
[19:52] <ultreia> lickalott- most distros lag behind the newest packages
[19:54] <Nemis> damn, cannot join java channel, it is +r
[19:54] <bekks> Nemis: Then you have to register your nickname before.
[19:54] <g16> Nemis: try #programming
[19:54] <Nemis> how to?
[19:54] <Nemis> how to register
[19:54] <g16>  /join #programminf
[19:55] <bekks> Nemis: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[19:55] <sw> !register | Nemis
[19:55] <crawln> and all i'm trying to do is batch convert mkv's to mp4's with avconv lol
[19:56] <dlsensei_xubuntu> ok solve the problem i got a wireless adapter bcm4312 dell studio 1537 i used b43-lpphy and now i can connect to dlink
[20:01] <disharmonic> Can enabling xvba cause this stuff? I don't see what it has to do with either KWin or Compiz
[20:01] <ultreia> disharmonic- what are the symptoms of your problem?
[20:02] <disharmonic> Weirdly enough i don't have the issue with E17 even though i have compositing enabled there too
[20:02] <rubiconjosh> I am running dual monitors and I want to change the monitor that notifications appear on, is this posibble? I do not see an option for it under Displays.
[20:02] <disharmonic> ultreia,  both Unity and KDE fail to display a desktop. I can see the wallpaper and the UI flickers in and out. Any ideas?
[20:02] <jhutchins> disharmonic: compiz causes compiz to have issues.
[20:03] <ultreia> disharmonic- so you have the wallpaper background with anything else?
[20:04] <disharmonic> ultreia, yes. The ui just flickers in and out quite quickly
[20:04] <ErdMutter> I was wondering if there is anyone with experience in improving battery life on a mac running Ubuntu 12.10. As of right now I only get 50% of the battery life of that on Mac OS X Mountain Lion.
[20:05] <disharmonic> ErdMutter, have you installed and configured laptop-mode tools?
[20:05] <ErdMutter> disharmonic: Yes, I did have laptop-mode-tools installed and configured.
[20:06] <ultreia> disharmonic- there may be a descriptive error message in /var/log/xorg.0.log (?)
[20:07] <crawln> so how would i user avconv to batch convert mkv to mp4 file format
[20:07] <jrib> crawln: can you convert one file yet?
[20:08] <crawln> i can
[20:08] <jrib> crawln: use a for loop then
[20:09] <crawln> well i just started learning how to use ubuntu 2 days ago :(]
[20:09] <crawln> and the loop things still confuse me
[20:09] <jrib> crawln: are all the files in one directory?
[20:09] <crawln> yes
[20:09] <crawln> when i did the example
[20:09] <jrib> crawln: what example?
[20:09] <crawln> it converted them to mkv.mp4
[20:09] <disharmonic> ultreia,  no errors in Xorg.0.log and 3D games work fine
[20:10] <LIDH> oh god, i'm getting full of this POS, so..the touchscreen is not detected on USB and also on TTYS*
[20:10] <OerHeks> ErdMutter, maybe this askubuntu answer is any help >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/103886/dual-boot-ubuntu-using-3-times-more-battery-than-leopard/104089#104089
[20:11] <disharmonic> HW accelerated XBMC works fine as well.
[20:11] <crawln> for i in *.mkv; do avconv -i "$i.mkv" -c copy "$i.mp4"; done
[20:12] <ErdMutter> OerHeks: Thank you, I will read though it. :)
[20:12] <jrib> crawln: so you just want to rename them at this point or do you want to redo the converting and get the name right from the start?
[20:12] <ultreia> disharmonic- then the problem must be in the window manager rather than in X. I can understand unity being a failure, but not so for kde
[20:12] <crawln> get the name right from the start
[20:12] <KeyboardNotFound> Hi, i joined added monitor into the VGA port on my laptop, but I see the same monitor I see the laptop, how do I monitor to see one workspace and the other monitor (laptop) other workspace?
[20:12] <crawln> i know i can use the cp *.mkv.mp4 *.mp4
[20:12] <crawln> but that's just annoying lol
[20:12] <crawln> wanna do it right from the beginning
[20:13] <disharmonic> ultreia, it's what has me perplexed as well. On top of that E17 works fine
[20:13] <jrib> crawln: try this example in your shell: foo=file.mkv; echo ${foo}; echo ${foo%.mkv}
[20:13] <jrtappers> KeyboardNotFound, to stop them being in clone use the display settings
[20:14] <jrtappers> type in "Display" at the launcher, it should come up
[20:14] <ultreia> disharmonic- perhaps it is something in your xinitrc file?
[20:15] <disharmonic> i didn't touch that but i'll tke a look. is there a log of recently updated/installed packages?
[20:15] <crawln> i see how that is
[20:15] <jrib> crawln: ok, so now you know how to modify your command?
[20:15] <donnie> How do I tell update manager to stop displaying updates. When "Don't display updates" is checked
[20:17] <ultreia> disharmonic- /var/log/dpkg.log (I think)
[20:17] <disharmonic> ultreia, duh. thanks
[20:18] <crawln> for i in *.mkv; avconv -i "${file%.mkv}  -codec copy ${file%.mp4} ; done?
[20:18] <crawln> or would it just be
[20:18] <crawln> for i in *.mkv; avconv -i "$i" -codec copy ${file%.mp4} ; done?
[20:18] <jp^> Any one know how to add lines to a text file which is in a zip file ?
[20:19] <zykotick9> crawln: you are missing a do in there
[20:19] <crawln> for i in *.mkv; do avconv -i "$i" -codec copy ${file%.mp4} ; done?
[20:19] <crawln> i was more worried about the correct placing of the file%
[20:19] <ultreia> disharmonic- did these problems begin when you switched from one WM to the other?
[20:20] <disharmonic> ultreia, no. I see some mesa packages in my dpkg log, which is weird
[20:21] <jrib> crawln: not exactly.
[20:22] <jrib> crawln: put an "echo" before your "avconv" and run what you have.  That way you will have the command printed and can understand what is wrong
[20:23] <ultreia> disharmonic- I am sorry, I have no definite ideas. Perhaps a reinstall of kde?
[20:23] <rubiconjosh> Anyone running multiple monitors have success with making notifications appear on a monitor that is not the right-most display?
[20:23] <crawln> i understand it's not copying the file name
[20:24] <tdignan> How do I sync photos to an iphone? I'm a noob when it comes to apple stuff. Just copying the files via USB mass storage doesn't seem to make them accessible via the photo gallery
[20:24] <jrib> crawln: well for one, your variable is $i, not $file
[20:24] <tdignan> is there any tool for linux I can use to import them
[20:25] <crawln> figures i wouldn't see that lol
[20:25] <tdignan> to clarify, I didn't buy this iphone. It was given to me and I need it for a job. I personally wouldn't go out of my way to buy one :P
[20:25] <tdignan> it'd be a great phone if it ran linux instead.
[20:25] <tdignan> :D
[20:26] <jrtappers> tdignan, can itunes run on WINE?
[20:26] <tdignan> maybe
[20:26] <tdignan> i guess i'll just reboot into windows and use itunes
[20:26] <ultreia> tdignan- http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10115286-233.html#!
[20:26] <tdignan> ultreia: nice
[20:27] <tdignan> when I googled i didn't find anything this good. thanks
[20:27] <_methods> try floola
[20:27] <Kjubert> i tried it  - iTunes doesnt work on wine. i dont use iTunes, but i had to fix the iPod of a friend and ran into that problem...
[20:27] <_methods> oops nm you said linux
[20:27] <jrtappers> How do I set grub to default to the last booted OS?
[20:27] <tdignan> wait no
[20:28] <tdignan> i's another article from 2008
[20:28] <tdignan> 5 year old instructions are not for me
[20:28] <disharmonic> ultreia, i think mesa got pulled by the Update manager and overwrote some AMD libs. Since i'm using a custom fglrx package apt probably doesn't have the mesa stuff as conflicting with fglrx
[20:28] <tdignan> it says nothing about photos, either.
[20:28] <ultreia> do those instructions no longer work?
[20:28] <_methods> tdignan: try floola
[20:28] <_methods> it works on linux now
[20:29] <disharmonic> ok time to test my theory
[20:29] <crawln> haha
[20:29]  * crawln does a happy dance
[20:30] <trism> tdignan: don't know about the iphone but for my ipad I just plug it in and use: gphoto2 -P; to copy it to the current directory
[20:30] <trism> tdignan: I imagine you could use anything that uses that lib
[20:30] <crawln> thanks jr
[20:30] <crawln> that helped alot
[20:31] <crawln> didn't realize i needed to go ${file%.mkv}.mp4 lol
[20:31] <jrib> crawln: yep
[20:32] <crawln> kept trying ${file%}.mp4
[20:32] <crawln> was like wth lol
[20:32] <Kjubert> I have a question: is the Ubuntu-Software-Center generally downloading .deb-files for installing software? Because for some software you cant find deb-packages for download online and i would like to gather these by copying possible temporary deb-packages the software-center is using. is there a way??
[20:32] <crawln> thanks man appreciated
[20:32] <jrib> crawln: you might be interested in http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Parameters
[20:32] <crawln> thanks
[20:34] <Pici> Kjubert: the software center is just a wrapper around apt-get, it downloads and installs debs. They're all available in our repositories and you can download them manually with your browser if you want too.
[20:35] <g16_> Kjubert: look into /var/cache/apt/archives
[20:37] <Kjubert> aahh... i knew the s.center was a frontend for apt. but i didn't know the repository is accessible by web interface. thanks, i just found it!
[20:37] <dinar2> hello. though my user is in plugdev, cannot write in ntfs!
[20:38] <ultreia> dinar2- is it using ntfs-3g?
[20:38] <TeckyJ> sorry hey just checking to make sure i have this irc thing working ^^;
[20:38] <Bsims> dinar2: who owns the mountpoint... ran into that
[20:40] <crawln> dinar2 one of the things i had to do is make a symlink to the folder under my home folder
[20:40] <crawln> to get deluge to be able to make folders and put files in the folders
[20:40] <dinar2> thank you
[20:40] <crawln> it wouldn't do it under /mount/folder/{new folder}
[20:40] <dinar2> that is strange, i ll try
[20:40] <disharmonic> well this is frustrating.
[20:41] <crawln> it worked for me was having issues with flexget pushing new folder commands to deluge
[20:41] <crawln> after making the symlink it worked
[20:41] <crawln> because the ntfs drive is all root:root
[20:41] <crawln> least with my system
[20:41] <crawln> and changing permissions on the folders didn't take on the ntfs drive
[20:42] <crawln> probably because of the way it mounts to the system
[20:42] <Bsims> crawln: why not just start your file manager as root
[20:42] <tdignan> thanks to everyone who helped. booting into the dark side to sync the iphone :)
[20:42] <antonio_> ciaoooooooooo
[20:42] <crawln> because it wasn't the file manager doing it
[20:42] <tdignan> one more thing I will leave you with
[20:42] <antonio_> hellooooooooooooooo
[20:42] <crawln> it was deluge getting issued the command from flexget
[20:42] <tdignan> it is sometimes OK to use evil to fight evil
[20:42] <tdignan> Apple is worse than microsoft in every way
[20:42] <faLUCE> Hi, I can't resize a window of a program run under wine. The lower right corner is outside the bottom of the desktop. what can I do?
[20:42] <tdignan> they are the real enemy
[20:43] <tdignan> bye
[20:43] <antonio_> list?
[20:43] <crawln> set the windows sized in the wine config
[20:43] <crawln> think winetricks will do it for you
[20:43] <crawln> i use playonlinux
[20:43] <crawln> with it's pretty ui :P
[20:44] <ultreia> disharmonic- no success?
[20:46] <dinar2> crawln linking helped, thank you
[20:47] <crawln> dinar2: it works because the mount is under usually /media/(mount) which you don't own
[20:47] <crawln> by bypassing the /media/ you go straight to the server
[20:47] <fredbulah> need help with udev rules ... is this the right room? ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-development better?
[20:48] <fredbulah> hello all
[20:48] <fidel> !ask | fredbulah
[20:49] <crawln> !answer | fidel
[20:49] <crawln> aww
[20:49] <crawln> it needs to say answer the question :P
[20:49] <crawln> that would be awesome :P
[20:49] <fidel> crawln: well there is no question so far as i can see ;)
[20:50] <crawln> fidel: yeah but it would still be cool
[20:51] <antonio_> list??????
[20:51] <antonio_> hellloooooooooo
[20:52] <ultreia> antonio_ - this is not a file sharing site
[20:52] <DJones> !list > antonio_
[20:52] <disharmonic> finally
[20:52] <NielsMkn> hello
[20:52] <ultreia> disharmonic- what was the problem?
[20:53] <disharmonic> Looks like enabling tear free desktop did the trick. Or rather it seems to have worked around the issue as my mouse still disappears if i leave it static
[20:53] <disharmonic> ultreia, see above
[20:54] <NielsMkn> I have a small problem. I'm trying to install flareget on ubuntu 10.04 but I get an error as it requires libqt4-network (version >= 4.4.8)
[20:54] <fredbulah> connecting a usb hub with 3 flash drives only fires a udev rule [which creates a separate mount point for each usb device] once. all 3 devices get mounted but the affected udev rule fires only once, was expecting it to fire once per device. is this a problem or is this working as designed?
[20:54] <ultreia> disharmonic- strange about the mouse pointer
[20:55] <disharmonic> ultreia, my guess is Vsync refereshes the ui very fast but not the nouse pointer. It's not really an issue though. When i move it it imediatly reappears
[20:56] <antonio_> hellllooooooooooooo
[20:56] <ultreia> disharmonic- does kde have that thing with the eyes that point to the mouse pointer?
[20:57] <NielsMkn> erm any idea how to fix this?
[20:59] <crawln> NielsMkn: sudo apt-get update?
[21:00] <NielsMkn> tried that, it seems that lib qt4-network max version for ubuntu 10.04 is only 4.4.6
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> iqs this antonio a bot?
[21:00] <Pici> NielsMkn: I don't see flareget in any of the Ubuntu repositories.
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> !find flareget
[21:01] <UltraParadigm> Can anyone point me in the right direction.  My soundcard (Soundblaster Audigy SE)  isn't listed when I do "cat /proc/asound/cards"
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> NielsMkn  consider upgrading to 12.04 or 12.10
[21:01] <NielsMkn> http://www.flareget.net16.net/
[21:02] <NielsMkn> MonkeyDust: but I don't want to work with unity :(
[21:02] <crawln> yeah the default on 12.04 is <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:02] <Pici> NielsMkn: You don't need to use unity.
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> NielsMkn  you don't have to, install a different DE and use that, fallback is very similar to gnome2
[21:02] <ThinkT510> NielsMkn: you dont have to, there is kde, xfce, enlightenment, lxde
[21:02] <Bsims> NielsMkn: I'd suggest xfce... its rather nice
[21:04] <crawln> so would everything go boom if you installed a deb package from precise on lucid?
[21:04] <NielsMkn> Darn
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> NielsMkn  this is what gnome3 fallback looks like http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fpdM3UOam3Y/TzW6lrA9yNI/AAAAAAAAHuQ/5Wf9Xum-oxQ/s1600/ubuntu12.04-classic-session.png
[21:04] <ThinkT510> crawln: never mix different version packages
[21:04] <F3Speech> Anyone tell me how to 'fix' my putty client in ubunut. Running in windows I can copy and paste into my putty term windows, in ubuntu I cant :( makes using the term alot slower.
[21:04] <NielsMkn> MonkeyDust: gnome3 fallback is stable?
[21:05] <crawln> was wondering that myself F3Speech lol
[21:05] <crawln> never cared though just ssh'd in a term
[21:05] <ultreia> UltraParadigm- the sb audigy se has been supported under alsa using driver ca106, just not very well, many driver errors
[21:05] <F3Speech> crawln: im wondering if thats the way to go, putty is handy though
[21:06] <crawln> F3Speech: well i found that after puttying the ssh key's on the server a terminal was faster
[21:06] <crawln> F3Speech: seeing as putty requires the puttykeyring thing
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> crawln: you can may the ssh server not use DNS too, makes login faster
[21:07] <F3Speech> not noticed the keyring tbh, guess ill lookup the connection string for term then
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> NielsMkn  it's just a different 'skin' for ubuntu
[21:07] <crawln> ActionParsnip: yeah well i've only been using it for 2 days learning alot though
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> crawln: best way to learn is to use it :)
[21:08] <ultreia> NielsMkn- kde is an old standard
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> ultreia: how is it old?
[21:08] <NielsMkn> MonkeyDust: well I'm reading about it on google and some people are saying that applets like battery indicator etc didn't work properly on ubuntu 11.10
[21:08] <crawln> F3Speech: yeah i just put the ssh key on then ssh blah.com lol
[21:09] <ultreia> ActionParsnip- because kde has been around for a long time
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> NielsMkn  people complain about anything - and i mean *anything*
[21:09] <crawln> I'm thinking of trying cinnamon but not sure
[21:09] <crawln> right now i just use stock unity
[21:09] <ThinkT510> crawln: cinnamon isn't supported here
[21:09] <crawln> lol
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> ultreia: its only 1 year older than gnome
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> crawln  it's beautiful but buggy, i tried it for a few days, then deleted it
[21:10] <crawln> yeah a friend had it on his comp
[21:10] <crawln> was removed a few days later
[21:10] <ultreia> ActionParsnip- they have both been around for a long time
[21:10] <crawln> said if it ever gets polished it'll be nice
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> ultreia: I know, just wondered where you got 'old standard' from
[21:11] <ultreia> ActionParsnip- "old standard"/ old favorites, as compared to xfce for example
[21:11] <UltraParadigm> If "cat /proc/asound/cards" doesn't list my sound card, what can I do?
[21:11] <Triups> I need help with channel bonding.  I have followed tutorials that show different ways and keep failing.  Should I be using bond-master or bond-slave?  Should I be using LACP on my cisco switch or no?
[21:12] <NielsMkn> alright thanks, gtg now later
[21:12] <ultreia> UltraParadigm- that means no driver recognizes your card. you can only get a different kind of sound card
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> ultreia: favourite is an opinion. xfce was started in 1996, just like gnome
[21:13] <ultreia> ActionParsnip- xfce must have been little used in 1996, it was unheard of then
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> ultreia: possibly
[21:14] <UltraParadigm> Ultreia: is that because I installed in after installing Ubuntu?  Maybe alsa needed to compile with it or something?    Grasps at straws
[21:15] <martinalex> abend...
[21:15] <ultreia> UltraParadigm- no. you can normally install sound cards after installing linux
[21:16] <chudler> Hello. Is there a way we can test d-i partman recipes "offline" outside of the installer? Currently I develop them and don't know exactly what is going to happen until build-time.
[21:16] <martinalex> i have a problem with xfig... it doesnt use german umlauts
[21:16] <chudler> AFAICT there's not even an installable partman package.
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> martinalex: are there any bugs reported?
[21:18] <ultreia> UltraParadigm- sometimes Ceative Labs makes soundblaster cards with the same name but different chipsets, and sometimes the companies that make OEM versions of Ceative cards will do things like changing the pci ids or the eeprom contents. For whatever reason, you appear to be out of luck with this particular audigy se
[21:19] <martinalex> ActionParsnip: didnt find the bugtracker... but this problem seems to be usual
[21:20] <ThinkT510> !launchpad | martinalex
[21:21] <martinalex> ThinkT510: this bug is not reported in launchpad
[21:22] <martinalex> i thought of an official xfig bugtracker... i dont know if there is such a thing
[21:22] <opalepatrick> when I get a system error in unity 12.10 I get a winodw popping up to report the problem,. I say yes, give password and then it disappears and comes back for a repeat three times or so. Any clues?
[21:23] <ultreia> UltraParadigm- I once long ago had a SB live made by Dell, it would work in windows but not in linux. I later got a SB live made by Creative, and it worked in both. Both cards looked the same and had the same pci id, but they did not function equally
[21:23] <opalepatrick> Doesnt seem to report - also cant work out what is broken
[21:23] <jhutchins> UltraParadigm: It would be unusual for an audigy to be completely undetected.
[21:23] <jhutchins> UltraParadigm: Does lspci show it?  lspci -nn and give us the numerical ID.
[21:24] <n-iCe> is ubuntu phone os available for download?
[21:24] <ThinkT510> !phone | n-iCe
[21:24] <UltraParadigm> No, I'm thinking either I'm an idiot and didn't put it down correctly, or tiger sent me a defective one.
[21:24] <jhutchins> UltraParadigm: Does not show in lspci?
[21:25] <ultreia> UltraParadigm- did you not say it worked in windows 7?
[21:26] <martinalex> there should be a  possibility to get umlaute via the compose key - but it doesnt work for me either
[21:27] <UltraParadigm> jhutchins:  no, the only audio device it shows is the hdmi output for my video card.  It's not there at all, My onboard also isn't there, but I disabled that in bios so that makes since.
[21:28] <jrib> martinalex: ü (compose doublequote u)
[21:29] <k1l> !away > dniMretsaM
[21:29] <martinalex> jrib: but which key is compose usually and why does it seem to work and in the end its a and not
[21:29] <martinalex> the umlaut ä i wanted to write...
[21:29] <jrib> martinalex: depends on your layout.  Check your keyboard configuration
[21:29] <UltraParadigm> jhutchins: I'm going to go open the box again and reseat the card.
[21:29] <jhutchins> Yeah, I would.
[21:30] <jhutchins> Hopefully with the power off.
[21:30] <Triups> could someone direct me to some proper documentation for linux channel bonding.  There seems to be amess of misinformation out there
[21:31] <Bsims> Triups: try #linux or maybe debian, they tend to be more useful on server type questions
[21:31] <ThinkT510> Triups: perhaps someone in ##linux might help
[21:32] <Triups> ty
[21:32] <ultreia> jhutchins0 hopefully he or she will realize "power off" means "power cord disconnected" on atx and newer systems
[21:35] <martinalex> jrib: i did check my keyboard settings and the configurations works in every program except xfig - it writes constantly "a instead of ä... (and it has the correct behavior for the compose key as æ can be written in xfig
[21:38] <jrib> martinalex: http://www.xfig.org/userman/drawing.html#compose-char
[21:40] <martinalex> jrib: thanks a lot! i tried to write symbols in the reverse order... the way it is usual in latex...
[21:40] <jrib> martinalex: yes, xfig seems to do something weird...
[21:41] <anthony__> can anyone here help me with a wired connection problem with ubuntu 11.10?
[21:42] <ultreia> it shouldn't take this long to reseat a card, I hope they have nroken thir machine
[21:42] <disharmonic> ultreia, i'm in Unity currently
[21:42] <ThinkT510> anthony__: you should consider upgrading, 11.10 support ends in april
[21:43] <sagiet> help
[21:43] <sagiet> !help
[21:43] <sagiet> how to get chanel list
[21:43] <froek>  /list
[21:44] <anthony__> i know. but i had 12.1 and it was all messed up. thats why i had to go back to 11.10. also i cant upgrade if i cant connect to the internet
[21:44] <ultreia> there are thousands of channels on freenode
[21:44] <froek> you can even find them on the web for freenode
[21:45] <elena-IK> are there remote controls that work well on ubuntu, with little configuration? I want to remote control media players (vlc mostly), but I can't get any of my remotes (IR and bluetooth) to work right with LIRC. or is there some kind of config gui for lirc? are there alternatives to LIRC?
[21:45] <froek> sagiet: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[21:45] <sagiet> tnx
[21:45] <froek> np
[21:45] <ultreia> anthony__ = can you descrobe the symptoms of your wired connection problem?
[21:46] <rubiconjosh> Anyone running multiple monitors able to get notifications to appear on a monitor other than the right-most one?
[21:46] <wiggmpk> When I view my movies on my NAS device via Samba / Workgroup in Nautilus, I have some file names that are totally different than what appears when I view the directory via FTP. What could cause this?
[21:47] <jhutchins> wiggmpk: you mean they have different filenames?  Different sizes?
[21:47] <sagiet> How du i get cmd list
[21:47] <wiggmpk> jhutchins: different file names, like drastically different too
[21:47] <anthony__> @ultreia: yeah just a sec. im on my amdroid tablet so itll take time to type it out
[21:47] <jhutchins> wiggmpk: Like Windows Shortnames?
[21:48] <ThinkT510> sagiet: ask in #freenode for irc help
[21:48] <jhutchins> sagiet: What client?
[21:48] <sagiet> xchat/gnome
[21:48] <wiggmpk> jhutchins: I haven't considered that, but I would say no
[21:48] <sagiet> whant to know basic.. comand
[21:49] <jhutchins> wiggmpk: Could be a matter of permissions and you're seeing different files.
[21:49] <rubiconjosh> sagiet, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=IRC+X-Chat+commands
[21:49] <sagiet> tnx
[21:49] <ThinkT510> rubiconjosh: don't use that site here please
[21:49] <ultreia> wiggmpk, could you share an example of the two names that one particular file has?
[21:50] <wiggmpk> jhutchins: ultreia I'll collect some more information quick, its on another network without internet access, gimme a moment.
[21:51] <sagiet> i found it /help
[21:51] <Noskcaj> is TRIM enabled by default in 12.10?
[21:52] <anthony__> it connected finenwhen i had 12.10. thats how i downloaded and reverted back to 11.10. everything it connected correctly. when i tryvtoconnect  it says that  its been disconnected ad that im offline. when i unplug the etho coord from the modem and back it it says the  same thing.  so it knows its theere it just wont connect
[21:53] <jhutchins> This is what comes from managing wired connections with a gui.
[21:54] <sagiet> Any one that can help width some css scripting.. want to re write from hover to mouse click
[21:55] <subcool> hey- ive been running into weird issues with ownership on my computer
[21:55] <Pici> subcool: ##css please, #ubuntu is just for Ubuntu support.
[21:55] <subcool> i have running -
[21:55] <Pici> subcool: sorry, mistab
[21:55] <subcool> k
[21:55] <sagiet> how do i do chanel changing
[21:55] <Pici> sagiet: /join #css please, #ubuntu is just for Ubuntu support.
[21:56] <ultreia> anthony__> what kind of modem do you have? (cable or dsl?)
[21:56] <hunnicutt> Hello
[21:56] <ProfessorBacon> blerp
[21:56] <hunnicutt> I have a question for developers, I imagine.
[21:56] <hunnicutt> I would like to compile nm-applet from source using the same command-line for "configure" used to compile with Ubuntu 12.04
[21:56] <subcool> i am running LiveUSB on my machine, and im mounting and moving files from my NTFS to an Ext3. I have mounted the Ext3, or im trying. It mounted under ROOT. ?? - now im trying to change owndership to user- and... im not sure how to.
[21:57] <wiggmpk1> jhutchins: ultreia: example, [REC] 3: Genesis.m4v (via FTP) _8PAM7~4.M4V (via nautilus/samba windows workgroup)
[21:57] <subcool> Being iam on a liveusb- it wont let me change the ownership to the normal user of the computer. but id' like for the folders to be atleast user permissions.
[21:57] <jhutchins> sagiet: http://xchat.org/faq/
[21:58] <hunnicutt> I have the nm-applet <IP_ADDRESS>, fetched from git.  But I don't know how to build this for GTK-2, it seems to create a shared library which pulls in GTK 3
[21:58] <subcool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1564369/
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> subcool: look into chmod and chown :)
[21:58] <jhutchins> wiggmpk1: Look up "samba windows shortnames"
[21:58] <hunnicutt> ahh ubuntu-devel
[21:59] <anthony__> ultreia: can u help?
[21:59] <ProfessorBacon> i need help with my aquarium.  my fish have ICH and they are dying.
[21:59] <subcool> ActionParsnip, i am- sudo chown subcool /media/Ext3Storage/
[21:59] <ultreia> anthony__> what kind of modem do you have? (cable or dsl?)
[21:59] <subcool> ActionParsnip, i have invalid user.
[21:59] <wiggmpk1> jhutchins: thanks mate
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> subcool: is subcool your username?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> subcool: you may have to boot to the Ubuntu OS to chown as your user
[22:00] <anthony__> ultreia: dsl. it worked fine before i went to 11.10. iv tried restarting the modem and computer. but it didnt do anything to help
[22:00] <subcool> ActionParsnip, cant i just chown "default user"
[22:00] <atrius> did ubuntu switch to the embedded glibc by default a while back?
[22:01] <subcool> ActionParsnip, instead of using a user name, i can just change the permssion manually? like 777 or something right?
[22:01] <ultreia> anthony__> ok. Is your dsl modem pppoe or bridging?
[22:01] <jhutchins> anthony__: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/internet/C/troubleshooting-lan.html http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25557
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> subcool: is subcool the first user you made in Ubuntu?
[22:01] <subcool> ActionParsnip,  yeah,
[22:02] <jhutchins> subcool: You have to chown to a specific user.
[22:02] <subcool> ActionParsnip, for giggles i can just copy it as root- im just trying to learn and fix it.
[22:02] <subcool> jhutchins, oh- ok.
[22:02] <jhutchins> !perissions
[22:02] <jhutchins> !permissions
[22:02] <riccardone> I've already put down a network ... It's incredible, the sysadmin of today are very unqulified
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> subcool: if you run:  id | grep uid    what is the ID of the user in the liveUSB?
[22:02] <subcool> remotedk or something
[22:04] <jhutchins> subcool: Have a look at that link before deciding how you want to go about it.
[22:04] <riccardone> a little scan with nmap et voilà :), but I've warned him, a little message on his printer, like afilm
[22:04] <riccardone> wow! applause for Riccardone :)
[22:04] <subcool> k- thanks..!
[22:05] <sisto67> e
[22:06] <anthony__> ultriea: i think pppoe. but idk
[22:07] <ultreia> anthony__> if it is pppoe, then you must login with some sirt of username and password
[22:08] <anthony__> well then its not that. because i never had to do that before
[22:10] <CuteGuy1> Hey there. I'm trying to rip some DVDs using an old IDE DVD burner hooked into an USB external enclosure. Yet my system does not mount the DVD, eve if lsusb does recognize the usb. How can I rip the DVDs? Is there any workaround to mount the DVD? Thanks in advance...
[22:10] <ultreia> anthony__> if it's not pppoe, all I can think of is that you should never try to downgrade, it breaks everything
[22:11] <jhutchins> CuteGuy1: What's on the DVDs?
[22:11] <cjae> is this for real? what will happen if I try to use the drivers for 10.10 on 12.10           http://www.hidpoint.com/hidpoint/download.html
[22:11] <MonkeyDust> CuteGuy1  do you know how to manually mount a device?
[22:11] <ultreia> cjae, don't do it
[22:12] <cjae> ultreia: why
[22:12] <CuteGuy1> jhuchins: on the DVD I got dvd files. It is not an audio DVD nor a data DVD
[22:12] <anthony__> well i did a complete unintall/reinstall. could it just be a driver that wasnt installed when 11.10 was being installed?
[22:13] <CuteGuy1> monkeydust: I do not know how to manually mount.
[22:13] <yeats> cjae: it won't be supported here in any case - if that's not reason enough, I would expect system breakage and dependency problems
[22:13] <ultreia> cjae- because the drivers for 10.10 are a different kernel version, and you will likely end up with a non-booting system, or a crippled system if you are lucky
[22:13] <ThinkT510> !mount | CuteGuy1
[22:13] <CuteGuy1> jhutchins: on the DVD I got dvd files. It is not an audio DVD nor a data DVD
[22:13] <CuteGuy1> Thanks a lot Thinkt510 and ubottu!
[22:14] <akSeya> hello
[22:14] <CuteGuy1> Oh, Ubottu is the bot, I get it...
[22:14] <jhutchins> cjae: Given that they appear to have different downloads for each release, they're probably compiled for a specific kernel and won't work with a different one.  You could always try it.
[22:14] <akSeya> is there something wrong with irc.freenode.net?
[22:14] <akSeya> xchat just cant connect to it
[22:14] <yeats> !freenod | akSeya
[22:14] <ThinkT510> akSeya: you are on it now
[22:14] <yeats> !freenode
[22:14] <jhutchins> cjae: It's unlikely to cripple your system, but also unlikely to work
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> CuteGuy1  sudo fdisk -l #to know the dvd drive -- mkdir blah -- sudo mount /dev/sxxx blah
[22:15] <akSeya> yeah but i'm on webchat
[22:15] <CuteGuy1> Thanks a lot MonkeyDust, I'll try that right away!
[22:15] <jhutchins> CuteGuy1: You don't want to mount it.
[22:15] <akSeya> xchat tries to conneect to irc.freenode.net (<IP_ADDRESS>) port 6667...
[22:15] <danley> Hi, I have a problem with my time. ntp is enabled, the timezone is set correctly in the system settings but my time is always 1 hour ahead.
[22:15] <akSeya> but time expires
[22:15] <jhutchins> CuteGuy1: Something like mplayer or vlc should be able to play it.
[22:15] <Miebster> Where is a good place to ask about netcat?
[22:16] <CuteGuy1> I did try with vlc and failed, But I will try mplayer. Thanks a lot jhutchings
[22:16] <jhutchins> !dvd | CuteGuy1
[22:16] <akSeya> any idea on what can I do to test out what the problem is?
[22:17] <akSeya> i can't ping irc.freenode.net either
[22:17] <ThinkT510> akSeya: why .net shouldn't it be .org
[22:17] <CuteGuy1> jhutchins thanks a lot. It is not a commercial DVD, its some homevideo burn in a DVD with the DVD folder structure and such
[22:17] <Paradigm|2> Ok, so I got my sound card sorted out, thank yoU!
[22:17] <ThinkT510> !yay | Paradigm|2
[22:17] <CuteGuy1> I need to rip the video to a video file...
[22:18] <Paradigm|2> It turns out that since I build the PC, the motherboard and the case are playing tug-of-war with my pci cards
[22:18] <akSeya> damn
[22:18] <Paradigm|2> when I screwed in the back plate the pin all popped out. heh
[22:19] <akSeya> ThinkT510, I could swear it was .net
[22:19] <ThinkT510> akSeya: i'm on .org right now
[22:19] <akSeya> yeah, with .org it worked
[22:19] <wjtaylor_> My cursor jumps randomly. I have a touchscreen (Dell XT2). How do I correct?  Just calibrate?
[22:19] <jhutchins> CuteGuy1: I think the encoding is still restricted and requires special codecs.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> wjtaylor_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[22:20] <_jeremy_> !libdvdcss2
[22:20] <wjtaylor_> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l
[22:21] <CuteGuy1> Thanks a lot jhutchins
[22:22] <ultreia> anthony__> has your machine ever worked with 11.10 in the past?
[22:23] <dsaj> what is the command to see how much memory is available to download?
[22:23] <dpurgert> dsaj, like how much free hdd space you have?
[22:23] <fidel> dsaj: 'free' to show ram/memorg // 'df' for space
[22:24] <anthony__> ultriea:. yes. thats y i came back to this version. cause it worked awesome before
[22:25] <dsaj> thank you
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> wjtaylor_: got the latest BIOS?
[22:25] <ultreia> anthony__> so if this 11.10 was installed clean, something else must have changed, like your cabling or your outdoor connection.
[22:25] <wjtaylor_> yes
[22:25] <wjtaylor_> ActionParsnip: ^^
[22:26] <wjtaylor_> It's not doing it much, and didn't start doing it until I started using the touchscreen.
[22:26] <wjtaylor_> just enough to be annoying
[22:27] <dsaj> I need to remove some packages to gain hdd space, how can I see the list of installed packages?
[22:27] <ultreia> /var/log/dpkg.log
[22:27] <fidel> dsaj: dpkg -l
[22:27] <dsaj> thank you fidel
[22:27] <dsaj> and ultreia
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> wjtaylor_: are there bugs reported?
[22:28] <wjtaylor_> not sure, but I have another bug for the team as well... might as well look for it on launchpad...
[22:28] <anthony__> no change. except the ip. but other than that still dsl modem
[22:29] <funky> hi guys, I'mtrying to set up a set of laptops for the students to use. The school's wifi uses a automatic proxy to connect to the internet. Is there any way to save the proxy setting for the guest account to use? It seems like the settings are reset after each session.
[22:29] <ultreia> anthony__> different internet provider?
[22:30] <anthony__> nope. same one. same model modem. same computer. is there a way to check thr drivers t see if there all ther and working?
[22:31] <jhutchins> anthony__: DId you look at those links I posted earlier?
[22:31] <ultreia> anthony__> I can think of one solution, but it would cost a small amount of money. Instead of directly connecting to the modem, obtain a cheap dsl-router and let it do all the work
[22:32] <jhutchins> ultreia: That's really going the wrong way for a simple connection.  He just needs to diagnose the problem and figure out what the cause is.  If it worked with 11.10 it'll work with 12.
[22:34] <anthony__> yes i did but i didnt see any thing that might fix it. and wats the difference between a modem and router. i might have them mixed up
[22:34] <ultreia> jhutchins- from what Anthony says, it used to work great under 11.10, not so great under 12.x, but after cleanly reinstalling 11.10, it no longer works. something is wrong
[22:38] <jhutchins> ultreia: So troubleshoot it.  ifconfig, route, dmesg, syslog, etc.
[22:43] <anthony__> i id
[22:44] <anthony__> i did ifconfig but idk wat it means
[22:46] <ultreia> anthony__ > I must be going for the night, jhutchins and the others sound capable to help you
[22:47] <anthony__> jhutchins: can u help me
[22:48] <Miebster> I have an application creating a connection to the local host on a specefic port.  I can't change how this app launches or how it connects to localhost.  I have an app that is listening for a connection on that port.  The problem is that app has to be ran on a different machine.  How can I setup something that listens for that port on my local host, and sends it to the other machine, (and the other direction too)
 can u help
[22:52] <Schumi23`> Were is a place I can go to report bugs on Ubuntu
[22:53] <jhutchins> anthony__: I can if you'll look at the troubleshooting links I posted earlier.
[22:53] <Schumi23`> (ie: The equivalent of Bugzilla with Mozilla)
[22:53] <jhutchins> anthony__:  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/internet/C/troubleshooting-lan.html http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25557
[22:53] <anthony__> can anyone help me with my wired network issue
[22:54] <raven_> hey guys, could anyone help me with my amd drivers? i dont know the difference between the 12.6 legacy driver and the 13.1 proprietary driver
[22:55] <jhutchins> anthony__: I would start out by looking at dmesg and at /var/log/syslog after cycling the connection and see what they say is happening.
[22:55] <raven_> like.. whats legacy mean >.<
[22:56] <raven_> hey again jhutchins
[22:56] <jhutchins> legacy usually means that the hardware is discontinued.
[22:57] <bianca> oh..
[22:57] <bianca> well yesterday i installed the  propriatary ones and i got that 32bits library error?
[23:01] <bianca> i reinstalled ubuntu and now i have the same issue as last time when i try to install the graphics drivers, fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers.  /lib/modules/3.5.0-22-generic/build/include/linux/version.h
[23:01] <ademone> hello there
[23:01] <qr> bianca: so install the kernel headers, what's the problem?
[23:02] <ademone> i have a problem with my external HDD
[23:02] <bianca> i dont know how to do that..
[23:02] <ademone> i can not mount it
[23:02] <dsaj> when I attempt to remove a file, I get "no space left on device" error http://pastebin.com/aUSFBfMk how do I suppose to free space?
[23:02] <qr> bianca: they're in the repositories, I forget the exact name but if you google 'ubuntu install kernel headers' I'm sure you'll find it
[23:03] <k1l> bianca: with install drivers you mean you donwloaded smth from an internet site?
[23:03] <ademone> the gparted cant recognise the file system
[23:03] <dpurgert> dsaj, what's the output of df -k . ?
[23:03] <bianca> yeah
[23:03] <k1l> bianca: why dont you use that driver that comes with ubuntu?
[23:04] <jhutchins> dsaj: Delete or move files
[23:04] <dsaj> dpurgert: http://pastebin.com/3BqkWwLC
[23:04] <k1l> bianca: the ubuntu drivers are already made fit into the ubuntu. so they are to prefer
[23:04] <dpurgert> ouch
[23:04] <dsaj> jhutchins: I try apt-get remove vi for example, but I get the same error
[23:04] <bianca> what driver?
[23:05] <bianca> without any drivers like right now, even moving windows is laggy..
[23:05] <dpurgert> dsaj, you'll need to delete or move stuff (not vi, or programs ... saved stuff)
[23:05] <dpurgert> clear your trash, delete temporary files or old files that you've since revised
[23:06] <k1l> bianca: ubuntu has the amd driver in their software repositories
[23:06] <dpurgert> or move stuff off to a different drive (e.g. a USB drive or a second hdd)
[23:06] <k1l> bianca: there is no need to download anything from the internetsites when its included in ubuntu
[23:06] <dsaj> dpurgert: thank you
[23:06] <bianca> oh.. i tend not to get things though the software center because most things are out of date >_<
[23:06] <jhutchins> dsaj: DELET FILES, not remove packages.  Delete files from your homedir (that you KNOW what they are), delete files from /tmp
[23:06] <compdoc> AMD just released a new driver I hear
[23:06] <shwaiil> hi
[23:06] <k1l> bianca: newer ist not better
[23:07] <bianca> okay.. ill try it
[23:07] <bianca> im installing the linux hears though :)
[23:07] <harta_>  I am stuck on Setting up python2.7-minimal (2.7.1-5ubuntu2.2) ... when updating through terminal
[23:07] <bianca> headers*
[23:07] <shwaiil> Q: I made a change in .bashrc and now I can't run any command in the terminal, can't access the .bashrc so dont know what to do, any help pls ? tks
[23:07] <anthony__> @jhutchinson: i did ifconfig and puched in the info from there into the network connections gui. now its alternating connected and disconnected
[23:07] <k1l> bianca: as you know from last time the new shiny amd driver from that site it didnt work. so do you want a newest one that doesnt work a good one from ubuntu?
[23:07] <dpurgert> dsaj, yeah /tmp is a good one to kill ... you can also go into firefox/chrome and kill the temp files/cookies (i forget where they hide ... is it $HOME/.mozilla (or .chrom[e|ium] ... or something like that)
[23:08] <bianca> actually i think i installed like 3 last time xD
[23:08] <ademone> i have a problem with my external HDD
[23:08] <oneseventeen> anyone have tips on partitioning a 3TB seagate drive from the command line?
[23:08] <ademone> the gparted cant recognise the file system
[23:08] <ademone> please help me, i dont want to lose my files
[23:08] <yeats> shwaiil: what happens when you try to run a command?
[23:08] <compdoc> the amd proprietory drivers included with sometimes dont work
[23:08] <k1l> bianca: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_via_the_command_line
[23:09] <yeats> ademone: why are you using gparted if you're trying to preserve files?
[23:09] <dpurgert> oneseventeen, depends -- how familiar are you with command line and formatting disks ... and is there anything "important" on the drive?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> oneseventeen: could use parted or fdisk
[23:09] <ademone> because i wanted to mount it but it cant be
[23:10] <dpurgert> ademone, why can't you mount it?
[23:10] <ademone> please tell me
[23:10] <ademone> how?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> ademone: your backups will maintain data integrity
[23:11] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, what's ademone trying to do here?  I don't follow his line of enquiry ... also cue "backups?"
[23:11] <bianca> 'The easiest way to install binary drivers is to use the built in Hardware Drivers manager in Ubuntu. ' i dont have hardware drivers..
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> dpurgert: mount a usb partition
[23:11] <shwaiil> yeats: tks for looking, "Is not included in the PATH environment variable" its like the bashrc is just break
[23:11] <yeats> ademone: so you're using gparted how? from the Ubuntu liveCD or from a gparted live CD?
[23:11] <k1l> bianca: its called jockey
[23:12] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, uh ... forgive my fail at USB ... but doesn't Ubuntu just mount them into /media by default?
[23:12] <ademone> i installed it on my ubuntu
[23:12] <yeats> shwaiil: can you pastebin the full error and share the link?
[23:12] <yeats> ademone: okay, so you're working with it live?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> dpurgert: it can, ntfs not ejected properly can have issues. depends if best practice has been followed
[23:12] <yeats> ademone: meaning, you installed it on your system and you're running it on the same system?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> ademone: installed what>?
[23:12] <bianca> i dont have that either, um is 12.10 called ringtail?
[23:13] <bianca> raring ringtail*?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> bianca: 13.04 is ringtail
[23:13] <ademone> its at the software center
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> bianca: are you running 13.04?
[23:13] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, "Best Practice" ... um, not using NTFS? :) (I know ... )
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> ademone: what did you install?
[23:13] <yeats> ademone: okay - let's back up... what are you trying to accomplish here?
[23:13] <bianca> no? i dont know what that is im running 12.10
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> bianca: thats Quantal
[23:13] <k1l> bianca: go to settings and then software-soures. there should be a last tab with additional drivers
[23:14] <dpurgert> yeats -- he apparently did something "bad" with a USB flash drive (didn't eject it properly?) and now it's misbehaving under his ubuntu install
[23:14] <shwaiil> yeats: http://pastebin.com/AV3hrYmW
[23:14] <harta_> i ran sudo dpkg --configure -a to fix a problem that occured during an interupted update and now it is stuck on Setting up python2.7-minimal (2.7.1-5ubuntu2.2) ...  this was my first update after OS installation
[23:14] <yeats> dpurgert: ah - thanks - I didn't realize he had shared anything previously
[23:15] <bianca> which one is better, proprietary or proprietary updates
[23:15] <shwaiil> yeats: I just added a new path to the .bashrc and this started happening I just need to find the file and delete the lines, but don't know how to show hiddne files through the GUI
[23:15] <histo> !better | bianca
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> "23:12 < ademone> i installed it on my ubuntu"    what does this mean?
[23:15] <bianca> lol..
[23:15] <dpurgert> yeats, yeah, I'm kinda getting it in pieces myself -- ActionParsnip clarified it for me
[23:15] <yeats> shwaiil: you can do '/usr/bin/vi <file>'
[23:15] <bianca> well how do i pick one
[23:16] <histo> bianca: under the settings manager there is a additional drivers applicaiton
[23:16] <ademone> ussualy when i plug my external HDD it mounts it automatically, but now it cant be mounted not even with the partition manager gparted, i tried sudo mount -a but no response, the partition manager cant recognise the file system
[23:16] <dpurgert> shwaiil, force it with /usr/bi... blast! beaten to it
[23:16] <yeats> dpurgert: :-D
[23:16] <bianca> yes im there, they are the same except one says updates at the end
[23:16] <subcool> how do i deteremine where grub is?
[23:16] <subcool> which partition
[23:16] <histo> ademone: does dmesg show that the drive is being seen
[23:16] <k1l> bianca: take the updates.
[23:16] <dpurgert> subcool, it's on the MBR of your HDD.
[23:16] <yeats> ademone: gparted is not the solution here, then
[23:17] <bianca> im guessing that means its one that recieves updates and the other doesnt?
[23:17] <ademone> with the sudo fdisk -l i can see it
[23:17] <dpurgert> yeats, it probably is ... just not in the way he hopes ...
[23:17] <anthony__> CAN ANYONE HELP WITH MY WIRED NETWORK PROBLEM. UBUNTU 11.10
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> anthony__: please kill the caps
[23:17] <dpurgert> anthony__, 1. stop yelling.  2. what's your problem?
[23:18] <subcool> dpurgert, ademone - yeah, i just formated my sda1 that had ntfs- and i want to make sure i have it backed up or something before i enter hell
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> ademone: see what?
[23:18] <dpurgert> um, you formatted the drive?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> ademone: what is 'it'?
[23:18] <subcool> dpurgert, partition
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> ademone: when you last unplugged the drive, did you use the 'safely remove' feature in your OS?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> ademone: or did you just unplug it
[23:20] <ademone> i cant remember, i think just an unplug, i havent use it for a long time
[23:20] <dpurgert> ah, misread :) ... the MBR is "outside" of the addressable /dev/sd[a-z][0-9] space
[23:20] <dpurgert> so you should be OK
[23:20] <iceroot> could someone please tell me what is the english string in nm-applet for ipv4 to send the hostname to dhcp. should be something like "dhcp client name"
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> ademone: then you are mistreating your hardware
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> ademone: is the file system NTFS ?
[23:20] <Schumi23`> Hi! Is there  a place to report bugs with Ubuntu? Like Bugzilla with Mozilla, but for Ubuntu?
[23:20] <ademone> propably sir, i am not sure
[23:20] <dpurgert> though you'll probably have a broken grub because there used to be something there (presumably, windows?)
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> ademone: then this is especially important if you intend to use it in Ubuntu too
[23:21] <somnambulant> ademone: blkid /dev/sdxy
[23:21] <ademone> i am sure its not ex something
[23:21] <bean> Schumi23`: sure there is, but first you are going to want to be sure that it's a bug.
[23:21] <dpurgert> so go and run 'sudo update-grub' to make a new menu/bootloader
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> ademone: shove the drive in a Windows PC, chkdsk the partition then in the bottom right, use the safely remove feature.
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> ademone: you'll probably find it is then ok
[23:22] <ademone> i tried it but the windows says me to format it
[23:22] <iceroot> !bug | Schumi23`
[23:22] <dpurgert> iceroot,  nm-applet ... you mean network manager?
[23:22] <iceroot> dpurgert: yes
[23:23] <dpurgert> from what I can see, setting "Automatic (DHCP)" leaves no configuration options ...
[23:23] <ademone> should i try blkid /dev/sdb?
[23:23] <anthony__> iv been tryin to get help for an hour now. my computer wont connect to my network. its wired correctly and my internet works. ii cycled the power on both. didnt do anything
[23:23] <bianca> thanks guys :)
[23:23] <dpurgert> anthony__, what's the output of ifconfig ?
[23:23] <jhutchins> anthony__: Did you look at those links I sent you?
[23:24] <iceroot> dpurgert: its for an existing connecting inside the ipv4 tag
[23:24] <jhutchins> anthony__: Pretty sure it's been more than an hour.
[23:24] <dpurgert> iceroot, not really sure -- I edit configs manually ... um, lemme try digging around
[23:24] <jhutchins> dpurgert: Right, with DHCP all of the options are set from the server.
[23:25] <jhutchins> dpurgert: With a text-based config you can override some of them.
[23:25] <iceroot> dpurgert: i am facing a bug? that since 12.04 my system is not reporting the hostname to the router, so i cant use hostnames on my network, when i enter my hostname manually in that field its working, so i want to create a bug
[23:26] <bean> !bug | iceroot
[23:26] <dpurgert> iceroot, um, sounds more like an issue with your router having wrong (internal) DNS information than anything
[23:26] <iceroot> bean: yes i know...
[23:26] <iceroot> bean: read my text...
[23:26] <iceroot> dpurgert: how should my router get the dns information when the client is not sending them?
[23:26] <shwaiil> yeats: thanks it worked
[23:26] <steed> hello from Hellas
[23:27] <dpurgert> iceroot,  it would have it because it generates the DNS table when the host asks for an IP address lease
[23:27] <subcool> dpurgert, k- thanks..
[23:28] <yeats> shwaiil: great
[23:28] <dpurgert> subcool, um, what'd I do?
[23:28] <iceroot> dpurgert: hm ok, i thought the field http://alpha-unix.de/~iceroot/ubuntu/nm-applet.png  "DHCP CLient-Kennung" needs to be filled by default
[23:28] <iceroot> dpurgert: when doing it by hand as the screen shows, my router is showing the hostname instead of the ip for connected devices
[23:28] <anthony__> yes. im using 11.10. not 10.04. the output is a bunch of numbers and letters. i cant copy and paste cause im on my tablet
[23:28] <jhutchins> anthony__: You can read them.
[23:29] <bianca> arrrgh i love you guys
[23:29] <jhutchins> anthony__: Are you getting an ip4 address?
[23:29] <bianca> <3
[23:29] <subcool> dpurgert, you helped me understand MBR and grub
[23:29] <dpurgert> iceroot, that's a client identifier, not the system hostname (in theory ... could be the same I suppose ... like I said, I don't use network manager)
[23:29] <anthony__> im not typing thewhole thing out. its too much
[23:29] <k1l_> bianca: keep in mind, that searching in the ubuntu-repos is the first way to do.no donwloading anywhere :)
[23:30] <bean> anthony__: well, we have to have information to help.
[23:30] <jhutchins> bianca: You got it working?
[23:30] <bianca> :)
[23:30] <dpurgert> anthony__, do ifconfig | pastebinit (note, pastebin command might be misspelt)
[23:30] <bean> dpurgert: he doesn't have network... so that won't really work
[23:30] <bianca> yeah, hardware acceleration and everything :3
[23:30] <iceroot> dpurgert: i will have a look if there are known bugs for "fritzbox" because it was working some time ago then i changed my fritzbox and upgraded to 12.04 :)
[23:31] <ademone> anyone?
[23:31] <dpurgert> bean, I assumed (incorrectly it seems) that he was on the same machine, maybe wireless
[23:31] <anthony__> wat do u neet? the inet6 addr?
[23:31] <dpurgert> anthony__, are you using ipv6 across your network, or ipv4 ?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> ademone: if windows says to format it then the FAT may be damaged
[23:32] <iceroot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcp/+bug/115426
[23:33] <ademone> can i do something? or i have to format the HDD
[23:33] <anthony__> ipv6 i think. but im not positive
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> ademone: i'd format it then restore data from backup
[23:33] <ademone> how
[23:34] <ademone> this disk is my backup
[23:34] <bean> anthony__: well, we can't really help without more info then... Can you like, even, take a picture of it and upload it somewhere?
[23:35] <jhutchins> bianca: What did you end up with that finally worked?
[23:35] <dpurgert> actually -- if you're using IPV4, you'll see both ... do you see one (e.g. <IP_ADDRESS>, or 169.x.x.x)?
[23:36] <steed> nvidia drivers are necessary on ubuntu?
[23:36] <bean> steed: video drivers are necessary on any os
[23:36] <anthony__> i thought of a way. but itll take a couple minutes
[23:37] <steed> bean i use now the aytomatic drivers nuveau, nuveau are nvidia?
[23:37] <jhutchins> dpurgert: It's unlikely pastbinit will work if he doesn't have a network connection.
[23:37] <bianca> that additional drivers thing seems to really work, xD with the update driver, plus the hardware acceleration part near the bottom of this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_via_the_command_line
[23:37] <dpurgert> jhutchins, yeah ... figured he was making do with a (USB) wifi card ...
[23:37] <jhutchins> anthony__: If you're going to keep trying to do things other than answer the questions you're asked you're not going to get it fixed.
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> ademone: then format the device and then make a fresh backup (if the device is the backup then the original data still stands)
[23:38] <jhutchins> anthony__: You don't need to paste the output of the commands, you need to read and understand it.
[23:38] <bianca> although it did say it wasnt working after i first put them 2 lines in for the harware acceleration, but it was working after i restarted so :)
[23:38] <ademone> yeah but i have data that i dont have on my desktop
[23:38] <jhutchins> bianca: Great, now those of us who DON'T have nvida can pass that along!
[23:39] <ademone> at the external HDD i mean
[23:39] <jhutchins> ademone: Not if you formatted it.
[23:40] <iceroot> dpurgert: just for your info, its a fritzbox bug and an ubuntu bug, ubuntu is not sending the correct identifier and the fritzbox is then ignoring the complete hostname task https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcp/+bug/115426/comments/6
[23:40] <bianca> noo its amd :3
[23:40] <ademone> jhutchins: i cant understand
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> ademone: then you could use foremost to maybe get data back. You will need an equal amount of writable free space as foremost will spit all files out that it finds to the folder
[23:40] <bianca> oh >< nvm
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> ademone: you will also lost file names
[23:40] <anthony__> i understand most of it. but wat do i need this info for. what do i do with it
[23:41] <bean> anthony__: we just need to know if it has a valid address
[23:42] <bean> anthony__: what is the output of "ip addr"
[23:42] <anthony__> so wat do i need to do then
[23:42] <jhutchins> anthony__: Seeing if you have an address is the first step of seeing if you can connect.
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> ademone: foremost is not perfect, files may be damaged too, so you may only get halfimages etc.
[23:42] <jhutchins> anthony__: You still haven't answered the question of whether you have an ipv4 address.
[23:43] <ademone> ahh
[23:43] <blob4000> is this the right channel to ask about building a package (virtualbox-guest-additions-iso) from source, so that i can make a small change in the source before installing?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> ademone: I suggest you review your backup regime, it is clearly not appropriate
[23:44] <bean> anthony__: what is the output of "ip addr"
[23:44] <blob4000> i'm using apt-get source to get the package's source, i just want to know the next steps for working with the tar.gz source, making changes, and recompiling + installing
[23:44] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, I send the important stuff to FTP ;)
[23:44] <bean> i just dont back up anything
[23:44] <bean> and write all docs, etc, on google dos
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> bean: that'll bite you in the ass one day
[23:45] <bean> ActionParsnip: eh, i just try to keep everything important in the cloud
[23:45] <bean> aware that its bad practice though
[23:45] <ademone> thanx a lot
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> bean: thats a backup then :)
[23:45] <bean> is certainly not what I do at work
[23:45] <bean> :p
[23:45] <ademone> i propably will lose my files
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> bean: not bad practice, its pretty sweet
[23:45] <ademone> :(
[23:45] <dpurgert> ... trouble is, it doesn't seem to get mirrored anywhere :)  ... guess we can't all be good enough for that to happen
[23:45] <bean> ActionParsnip: certainly means more disk space for the disposable files
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> ademone: try foremost. you should run a better backup, you wouldn't have an issue then. that's what a backup is to prevent
[23:46] <anthony__> im lookin at "inet6" "hwaddr" those are the 2 addrresses from "ifconfig eth0". "ip addr" gives mostly the same
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> bean: I have about 1Gb of data in $HOME, the rest is on my file server
[23:47] <bean> makes sense
[23:47] <dpurgert> anthony__, is there an ipv4 address? (i.e. inet addr:192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x or something)
[23:48] <wjtaylor_> anyone know of a util that will stress test my video card?
[23:49] <jhutchins> anthony__: You still haven't told us if you have an ipv4 address.
[23:49] <anthony__> no. just one with numbers and letters
[23:50] <jhutchins> anthony__: Ok, so we know at least that you don't have an address.
[23:50] <dpurgert> odd that you're running ipv6-only on a home network.  you have an IPV6-only address on the computer you're using to talk to us?
[23:50] <bean> dpurgert: he's on his tablet.
[23:51] <bean> anthony__: what happens when you type "dhclient eth0"
[23:51] <anthony__> i have inet6 nothin that looks like ipv4.
[23:51] <jhutchins> anthony__: Do you have link lights on the computer & the modem?
[23:51] <dpurgert> bean, tablet is still a computer, and shou... ohhhh, 3G?
[23:51] <bean> dpurgert: no, its just his computer can't get an address from the router over the wire, it sounds like
[23:51] <iceroot> which dhcpclient is network-manager using by default? dhcp3-client is not installed on this system and i dont know any other clients
[23:51] <jhutchins> dpurgert: Not odd, cards auto-configure ipv6 even if they don't have a connection.
[23:52] <dpurgert> bean, right -- trying to get a test case from a working connection ...
[23:53] <dpurgert> jhutchins, and would, in theory also have a 169.x.x.x IPV4 address (unless Ubuntu just straight doesn't show it ... )
[23:53] <jhutchins> anthony__: Do you have link lights on the computer & the modem?
[23:53] <anthony__> yes i have link lights. thats the first thing i checked. and i put in ddhclient eth0. nothing happend. no output
[23:53] <jhutchins> dpurgert: No, not on linux.
[23:53] <bean> anthony__: ok, now does ifconfig eth0 show an address?
[23:53] <jhutchins> bean: He said he didn't have ipv4.  Hasn't told us if the link lights are on.
[23:54] <dpurgert> jhutchins, fair enough ... been a while since I've fought with the connection ...
[23:54] <bean> jhutchins: i told him to run dhclient eth0
[23:54] <bean> hoping that i'd grab one
[23:54] <jhutchins> He's hopeless, I give up.  G'nite guys.
[23:54] <dpurgert> anthony__, you spelled it wrong -- it's "dhclient eth0" ... not "ddhclient..."
[23:54] <bean> anthony__: does "ifconfig eth0" show "UP BROADCAST MULTICAST" somewhere
[23:54] <dpurgert> g'nite
[23:57] <anthony__> ifconfig eth0 shows hwaddr and inet6. it shows UP BOADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST. and i spelled dhclient wrong on herr cuse im on my tablet and its hardv to type
[23:57] <dpurgert> anthony__, ok, no worries :)
[23:58] <bean> anthony__: okay, does "dig +short google.com" work
[23:59] <dpurgert> jhutchins, wait ... isn't the <IP_ADDRESS>/16 block part of some RFC?