[01:53] <Chipaca> Nafallo: topyli: ubuntuone-preferences shows a litte bit of status info (basically syncing / synced)
[01:53] <Chipaca> topyli: what does --list-folders say? it's entirely possible the udf creation errored silently
[08:14] <diverse_izzue> honk
[09:11] <diverse_izzue> honk
[09:43] <rapha> kklimonda: thanks ... do you think there's any chance of that changing to be ~/Music though? As that would be the right thing to do; after all, Ubuntu has these folders by default for a reason...
[11:43] <kklimonda> rapha: maybe in the future - it's actually a limitation of U1, you can't make sync folders inside of other sync folders and many people are already syncing Music
[12:35] <rapha> kklimonda: oh, okay ... but then at least it's on your radar, which is good :-)
[12:38] <rapha> kklimonda: but what about the "simple" solution then; just using a Music folder inside U1 for the music store stuff? That way it would be clear where your music is stored (even without arcane folder names like "User Defined Folders" (which ppl like my gf are never going to look into anyway)) - and it would also merge nicely with the ~/Music folder of ppl who have that syncing already.
[12:44] <kklimonda> heh, not on mine radar - I'm just a little drone that sits here and answers questions :)
[13:17] <duanedesign> 'lo all\
[13:17] <rye> duanedesign, hi!
[13:18] <duanedesign> rye! :) hope you had a good weekend.
[13:18] <duanedesign> trying to get set up here to test some new bug reports
[13:19] <duanedesign> have you noticed in Lucid the browser not opening on first run to authenticate?
[13:19] <rye> duanedesign, I have finally set up my dev box with lxc so I have twice as much power to test things
[13:19] <rye> duanedesign, hm, not opening on first run? it did for me last week, nightly ppa or stable?
[13:19] <rye> "stable"
[13:20] <rye> duanedesign, btw, are you running lucid on a laptop?
[13:20] <duanedesign> i have/had nightly. I am installing Lucid stable right now to test
[13:20] <duanedesign> rye: yes sir
[13:20] <rye> duanedesign, what's your  cpu governor?
[13:32] <bennie> hey guys i wanted to update you to a problem i reported here over a week ago. Anyone from the team reading?
[13:32] <duanedesign> rye: pow3ernow-k8
[13:35] <bennie> i reported that the music stroe was stuck on "transefering to ubuntuone"
[13:35] <bennie> well after about a week its very slowly sorting itself out
[13:35] <bennie> bug report 544526
[13:37] <duanedesign> hello bennie
[13:38] <bennie> hi
[13:38] <duanedesign> bug 544526
[13:38] <bennie> its done all but two songs now
[13:38] <bennie> which are still transfering
[13:38] <bennie> it all happened this morning after i remeoved the blank file its was suggested i add last time
[13:41] <duanedesign> bennie: was this a blank file that was added to help debug the problem?
[13:41] <bennie> yep, it was suggested it might force the folder to be scanned
[13:42] <bennie> but instead adding that file wipped all the music from the folder (which never appeared in rhythem box)
[13:43] <bennie> but this morning i logged onto one of my boxes removed the file and the alert in rhythem box staing that a file was missing ( in this case being the blank file). And the music started to sync and appear in rhythem box
[13:44] <bennie> and the transferring dialogue has changed (there's a screen shot in the bug report)
[13:45] <bennie> although two songs are still stuck (and are not synced from the music store at all to my ubuntu one account). There seems to be no good reason why these two haven't synced. There are bang in the middle of the album
[13:56] <toros> hi
[13:57] <toros> I've just found an interesting option in Ubuntu One, called "Broadcast Messages Archive"
[13:57] <toros> does it mean gwibber integration is coming to Ubuntu One?
[14:02] <beuno> toros, yes, it syncs across gwibber settings
[14:02] <rye> toros, actually, "Broadcast Messages Archive" means the replication of your gwibber messages archive to Ubuntu One
[14:02] <rye> toros, by default it syncs only account settings..
[14:02] <rye> beuno, I came for your soul :)
[14:02] <rye> beuno, my A1200 authfails during phone sync even with brand new password
[14:03] <beuno> rye, hi!
[14:03] <beuno> interesting
[14:03] <beuno> what's your username?
[14:03] <rye> 73805264
[14:03] <rye> beuno, ^
[14:06] <duanedesign> thank you bennie for continuing to provide information on your situation. That is very useful
[14:07] <beuno> rye, looking
[14:07] <toros> rye: ohh, I see. Great idea!
[14:07] <bennie> duanedesign: thats ok
[14:08] <duanedesign> bennie: sorry i set the bug to 'invalid' I mistook one of the comments as a comment from the OP. Saying this was no longer an issue
[14:09] <bennie> duanedesign: is there any additional info i should post to the bug report for comparisons sake. I.e my syncdemon.log and syncdemon-exceptions,log
[14:09] <bac> rye: i was working with you and alecu on friday about U1 music store files not downloading.  the album i purchased friday never completed.  i tried purchasing one yesterday and have problems with it too
[14:10] <toros> So, Ubuntu One syncs my Gwibber settings by default?
[14:11] <rye> bac, pinging music-store-related devs...
[14:13] <rye> toros, gwibber developer decided to store everything in couchdb, and whatever is put there is replicated to ubuntuone servers
[14:14] <toros> rye: thanks!
[14:14] <duanedesign> bennie: what does u1sdtool -s say?
[14:15] <beuno> rye, [2010-04-12 13:04:11,894] [funambol.json-connector] [TRACE] [51D7BDD8CDC5EE610DCEC127712910EB] [357487004637847] [] [] ---------> statusCode: 406 responseBody: {"error": {"message": "Free plan has expired", "code": "ERR_ACCOUNT_EXPIRED"}}
[14:15] <rye> O_O
[14:15] <beuno> rye, could you go to edge, /phones
[14:15] <bennie> State: QUEUE_MANAGER
[14:15] <bennie>     connection: With User With Network
[14:15] <bennie>     description: processing queues
[14:15] <bennie>     is_connected: True
[14:15] <bennie>     is_error: False
[14:15] <bennie>     is_online: True
[14:15] <bennie>     queues: IDLE
[14:16] <rye> beuno, "You haven't synced any contacts yet so you still have 30 days left."
[14:16] <bennie>  i have tried to do repeated u1sdtool -d; u1sdtool -c
[14:16] <rye> beuno, and I have "Upgrade" thing there :)
[14:16] <beuno> rye, that's interesting
[14:17] <beuno> and you are sure that's the same username?
[14:17] <bennie> and at theat point it says State: SERVER_RESCAN
[14:17] <bennie>     connection: With User With Network
[14:17] <bennie>     description: doing server rescan
[14:17] <bennie>     is_connected: True
[14:17] <bennie>     is_error: False
[14:17] <bennie>     is_online: False
[14:17] <bennie>     queues: WORKING_ON_METADATA
[14:17] <bac> hi alecu.  any progress on the U1 music store issue you were helping me with on friday?
[14:17] <rye> beuno, http://files.lappyfamily.net/Pictures/Ubuntu%20One%20:%20Phones_1271078216838.png
[14:18] <rye> beuno, "Upgrade" looks somehow misaligned though
[14:18] <beuno> rye, it does
[14:18] <beuno> jblount, around?  ^
[14:18] <beuno> rye, can you file a bug and assign to jblount?
[14:18] <beuno> rye, and not ask to be upgraded until we fix it  :)
[14:19] <alecu> hi bac, we are finishing a fix for our servers, and will have news today.
[14:19] <rye> beuno, ah, upgrade is performed voluntarily? Ok, then I am ok with my 2Gb plan...
[14:20] <jblount> beuno: Looking...
[14:20] <bac> alecu: ok, thanks
[14:20] <bac> alecu: ping me if you want confirmation the fix worked
[14:21] <alecu> bac, sure, thanks!
[14:21] <jblount> Blurgh! Good thing we have rye around :)
[14:22] <duanedesign> bennie: if you would like to paste your  ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log at http://paste.ubuntu.com we can take a look at it.
[14:23] <duanedesign> bennie:  I think you stated in your bug report that you have nothing in your. syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[14:25] <bennie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/413115/
[14:25] <rye> jblount, beuno what? You are all on 50Gb plan?
[14:26] <jblount> rye: Yeah, it's a freebie for @canonical people :) (although I've been paying for mine since it was avaialble)
[14:26] <rye> i wonder what that big cross button does - it just makes "Upgrade" link disappear...
[14:27] <bennie> i
 : i do now
[14:28] <bennie> cat ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[14:28] <bennie> 2010-04-12 14:01:42,852 - ubuntuone-preferences - ERROR - org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.AttributeError: Traceback (most recent call last):
[14:28] <bennie>   File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/dbus/service.py", line 702, in _message_cb
[14:28] <bennie>     retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords)
[14:28] <bennie>   File "/usr/bin/ubuntuone-preferences", line 1062, in present
[14:28] <bennie>     if self.dialog.visible:
[14:28] <bennie> AttributeError: 'UbuntuOneDialog' object has no attribute 'visible'
[14:29] <rye> beuno, wait, how can the plan be expired. It should start expiring after Lucid, right?
[14:30] <rye> UbuntuOneDialog... hmmm
[14:30] <beuno> rye, no, we need to reset the start times manually
[14:31] <rye> beuno, jblount bug #561490
[14:32] <rye> ubottu, refetch bug #561490
[14:33] <rye> I have added bug #544596 to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status
[14:34] <beuno> rye, it's mostly likely just you that is affected, as you are the earliest non-paid tester  :)
[14:34] <beuno> I will run the reset query by the end of the week
[14:34] <beuno> and again after Lucid is released
[14:34] <rye> aha!
[14:34] <diverse_izzue> honk
[14:34] <rye> beuno, this makes perfect sense
[14:36] <rye> diverse_izzue, hi
[14:38] <diverse_izzue> hi rye
[14:38] <diverse_izzue> i'm back with the same issue as the other day
[14:39] <diverse_izzue> in a nutshell, some time back my U1 decided that i wanted my entire pictures folder synched. which i don't. there are many files there. so far, each attempt to disable that folder failed. even deleting all config data (according to FAQ) and reinstalling U1 failed, in that after a while this configuration was back (probably from server)?
[14:39] <diverse_izzue> can i have my account reset?
[14:43] <diverse_izzue> rye, ^
[14:44] <rye> nessita, is it possible to unsubscribe/delete UDF w/o running whole meta-queue first ?
[14:49] <nessita> rye: nopes
[14:50] <rye> urbanape, i have the same issue with Bindwood as described in bug #560583 - i see that beuno provided some info - is there something else that I can provide to assist in debugging?
[14:50] <nessita> rye: maybe from the web UI ... (is it for you?)
[14:50] <rye> nessita, nope, it is for diverse_izzue
[14:50] <rye> nessita, it looks like it is impossible to remove UDF from web ui
[14:50] <urbanape> rye: did you see my followup? The migration is breaking somewhere and not completing. If you enable debugging, you'll at least be able to find out where.
[14:51] <nessita> rye: until dashboard is deployed, yes
[14:51] <nessita> rye: that is why I was asking if it was for you
[14:52] <beuno> urbanape, we followed up with the errors, and I pasted the sources for the records that break
[14:52] <urbanape> thx
[14:52] <rye> urbanape, http://paste.ubuntu.com/413136/
[14:52] <diverse_izzue> nessita, rye, is there a possibility in the meantime to get my account reset?
[14:52] <rye> nessita, dashboard is for ubuntuonehackers only?
[14:53] <beuno> rye, no, it's just on edge I think
[14:54] <nessita> rye: beuno is your guy to ask that :-)
[14:54] <rye> nessita, hm... is dashboard going to provide the facility to remove udfs?
[14:55] <rye> btw, is there a plan to make nightlies operating again ?..
[14:55] <rodrigo_> bug #561481
[14:57] <diverse_izzue> what is dashboard?
[14:58] <diverse_izzue> oh i just realised, the start page on edge. but i can't see a feature to delete a udf there
[14:58] <diverse_izzue> again, can i have my account reset?
[15:01] <diverse_izzue> i just tried cancelling my subscription and subscribing again - the damn folder is still there
[15:04] <rye> hm, I believe that it takes some time to set up Tomboy sync on ALTLinux - in my case ALT's tomboy gets BAD REQUEST response from https://one.ubuntu.com/oauth/request/
[15:06] <rye> nessita, ok, what should a person do if he wants to cancel UDF that was made by mistake and that share contains billion of files that would take infinite amount of time to complete?
[15:06] <nessita> rye: let me think, it's not trivial
[15:06] <rye> nessita, i still believe there can be a way to promote DeleteVolume (or something like that) so that it runs first...
[15:06] <nessita> verterok: any ideas ^?
[15:07] <nessita> rye: right now I think we don't have a way to promote a command
[15:07] <verterok> nessita: about?
[15:07]  * verterok looks
[15:07] <nessita> verterok: "what should a person do if he wants to cancel UDF that was made by mistake and that share contains billion of files that would take infinite amount of time to complete?"
[15:09] <verterok> nessita: hmm, there is no easy way to fix that, using the current tools :/
[15:09] <verterok> nessita: probably the easies way is to mark the UDF as "unsubscribed"
[15:09] <verterok> *easiest
[15:09] <verterok> and then delete it
[15:10] <verterok> nessita: as subscribtions to UDF are local, no server roundtrip is required ;)
[15:10] <verterok> rye: ^
[15:10] <nessita> verterok: but that command will have any effect in what's currently queued in the meta queue?
[15:10] <nessita> verterok: even though the unsubscribe per se doesn't have to go and back
[15:11] <verterok> nessita: I don't think the action queue is smart enough to kill the commands in the queue :/
[15:11] <verterok> nessita: I
[15:12] <nessita> verterok: yeah, my thought exactly
[15:12] <verterok> nessita: I'll do: 1) u1sdtool -q, 2) u1sdtool --start, 3) u1sdtool --unsubscribe-folder=<udf id>, 4) u1sdtool -c
[15:13] <verterok> nessita: unsubscribe the folder *before* connecting
[15:13] <verterok> nessita: that way AQ should ignore that UDF, right?
[15:13] <urbanape> rye, had you used Bindwood prior to 1.0.3? Back with karmic at all?
[15:14] <rye> urbanape, yup
[15:14] <urbanape> beuno, same question. You mentioned not remembering having installed it.
[15:14] <beuno> urbanape, right, I don't remember having ever installed it
[15:15] <rye> urbanape, I had bindwood installed even before the karmic release
[15:15] <beuno> I could be wrong
[15:15] <rye> urbanape, well, maybe 2 days before release. I need to see when was my first bug report regarding bindwood filed :)
[15:16] <urbanape> beuno, maybe when you did some testing for a branch or something? Something in your environment (probably the two other bindwood. preferences) triggered the migration.
[15:16] <beuno> urbanape, maybe, yeah
[15:16] <beuno> I don't remember any of that, but it could bery well be
[15:16] <verterok> nessita: sounds ok?
[15:17] <urbanape> crud
[15:17] <urbanape> okay, need to make it a little less grumbly in the presence of a failed migration. It's not gonna get any better for either of you, until the migration is complete...
[15:17] <nessita> verterok: why AQ would ignore the UDF? it will add it to process while doing local rescan
[15:18] <nessita> verterok: which happens before the user connects (or not)
[15:18] <verterok> nessita: but if the UDF is unsubscribed should be ignored
[15:18] <verterok> nessita: new version ;) : 1) u1sdtool -q, 2) u1sdtool --start, 3) u1sdtool --unsubscribe-folder=<udf id>, 4) u1sdtool -q; 5) u1sdttol --start 6) u1sdtool -c
[15:19] <nessita> verterok: yes!
[15:19] <nessita> rye: ^ (it's not optimal, we know)
[15:19] <rye> diverse_izzue, ok, could you please pastebin the output of u1sdtool --list-folders ?
[15:22] <beuno> urbanape, it's ok, that's what testing is for. I'll disable it, and let me know when you want me to test again
[15:22] <urbanape> beuno, thx
[15:24] <verterok> nessita: maybe steps 1 and 2 aren't required :)
[15:25] <nessita> verterok: if it's running, nopes
[15:49] <diverse_izzue> rye, i'm trying, but u1sdtool reacts very slowly because the syncdaemon is churning gigabytes of data
[15:50] <diverse_izzue> rye, but there we go, just one folder: id=c040ec71-d7ad-40cd-91a6-89e67668a35f subscribed= path=/home/hunzikea/Pictures
[15:50] <diverse_izzue> but as it looks to me it is already unsubscribed
[15:50] <rye> diverse_izzue, hm
[15:50] <rye> verterok, ^
[15:52] <verterok> diverse_izzue: did you just unsubcribed?
[15:53] <diverse_izzue> verterok, i tried so many things... but when i started the syncdaemon, the folder was already unsubscribed
[15:54] <diverse_izzue> there's thousands of files in some queue, u1sdtool outputs them when i execute u1sdtool --waiting-content
[15:59] <verterok> diverse_izzue: so, are those files from the UDF?
[15:59] <diverse_izzue> verterok, yes they are
[15:59] <diverse_izzue> 6636 of them, to be precise
[16:04] <lee_cow> good to see Funambol syncml working great in U1; just managed to sync a Blackberry phone and Micro$oft Outlook both to U1 without any issues :) fantastic & thanks; shame Evolution on Lucid Beta 2 (with desktop-couch) not behaving though :(
[16:06] <lee_cow> anyone? are we expecting notes/memos, tasks and calendar to be supported via U1 and Funambol at some point in the future?
[16:13] <lee_cow> anyone? when will contacts db in U1 support contact photos/pictures? evolution does but u1 contacts in couchdb and also in u1 cloud do not....
[16:14] <diverse_izzue> verterok, are you still around?
[16:16] <verterok> diverse_izzue: yes, sorry. I was in a call
[16:16] <verterok> diverse_izzue: so, you have the UDF unsubscribed but syncdaemon still want to download stuff from it?
[16:16] <verterok> nessita: ^
[16:16] <rye> verterok, I believe it wants to upload stuff, not d/l
[16:17] <diverse_izzue> verterok, i don't know what it wants to do... i connected it, now it claims (upon --status) that it is "processing queues", but its not taking considerable amount of cpu or generating much network traffic
[16:17] <nessita> verterok, rye: what's in the metadata queue?
[16:17] <rye> diverse_izzue, ^
[16:17] <verterok> rye: ok, it's the same :) the issue here is that if the UDF is unsubscribed it should ignore it
[16:17] <nessita> diverse_izzue: what u1sdtool --waiting-metadata says?
[16:17] <diverse_izzue> that gives an error, pastebinning...
[16:18] <diverse_izzue> verterok, rye, nessita: http://paste.ubuntu.com/413176/
[16:18] <rye> metadata list does not handle utf8 i believe...
[16:19] <nessita> *ouch*
[16:19] <rye> nessita, proper utf-8...
[16:20] <verterok> diverse_izzue: ok, please try restarting the client, it should ignore the UDF
[16:20] <rye> nessita, that should be handled as it is in show_path_info, i believe
[16:21] <diverse_izzue> verterok, command line?
[16:21] <rye> or not
[16:21] <nessita> diverse_izzue: after the restart  that verterok asked, could you please paste the log file from ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log ?
[16:21] <nessita> rye: not sure really, I'm not familiar with u1sdtool internals
[16:21] <rye> it is in str_attrs... it tries to stringify something and I silence myself now...
[16:21] <nessita> diverse_izzue: first, u1sdtool -q
[16:22] <rye> nessita, File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/action_queue.py", line 1430, in __str__ "for attr in str_attrs]"...
[16:22] <nessita> diverse_izzue: after a few seconds, u1sdtool --start
[16:22] <nessita> rye: could you please file a bug?
[16:22] <rye> nessita, yup
[16:23] <nessita> thanks!
[16:26] <verterok> diverse_izzue: yes, u1sdtool -q
[16:26] <verterok> diverse_izzue: and then u1sdtool --start
[16:28] <diverse_izzue> verterok, i restarted. it starts churning disk like crazy again
[16:30] <nessita> diverse_izzue: do you have more files within Ubuntu One than the UDF you just added, right?
[16:30] <nessita> diverse_izzue: maybe other UDFs as well?
[16:30] <diverse_izzue> nessita, no other UDFs
[16:31] <diverse_izzue> some 20 test files in Ubunt One folder
[16:31] <nessita> diverse_izzue: ok, what does --status says?
[16:32] <diverse_izzue> nessita, doing local rescan
[16:32] <nessita> diverse_izzue: can you please paste the output of:
[16:32] <nessita> tail -n 100 ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[16:33] <diverse_izzue> nessita, http://paste.ubuntu.com/413181/
[16:34] <verterok> nessita: looks like it's doing a Local rescan of a unsubscribed UDF
[16:36] <diverse_izzue> verterok, nessita, i'm away for half an hour, will be back later
[16:36] <verterok> diverse_izzue: k, thanks
[17:18] <diverse_izzue> nessita, verterok, did you find out why it's rescanning an unsubscribed UDF, any more logs i can provide?
[17:20] <verterok> diverse_izzue: looking at the code ATM, gimme a few minutes :)
[17:20] <nessita> diverse_izzue: yes, could you please paste the output of:
[17:20] <nessita> u1sdtool --list-folders
[17:21] <diverse_izzue> nessita, it justs lists this one folder
[17:21] <nessita> diverse_izzue: could you please paste the output?
[17:21] <nessita> diverse_izzue: I want to confirm it's actually unsubscribed
[17:21] <diverse_izzue> nessita, http://paste.ubuntu.com/413204/
[17:23] <nessita> diverse_izzue: ok, it's unsubscribed indeed
[17:23] <nessita> diverse_izzue: we're looking at the code with verterok
[17:23] <diverse_izzue> nessita, :-)
[17:24] <diverse_izzue> nessita, great. i have to go buy groceries if i don't want to starve tomorrow, but i'll be back around 8 and happy to provide more debug info if needed. cu guys.
[17:24] <nessita> diverse_izzue: thank you!
[17:46] <rye> nessita, bug #561638
[17:56] <nessita> rye: thanks!
[17:58] <PaulGit> vds: ping
[18:52] <rye> Once revision 2581 hits the servers we have bug #539558 fixed. That would make notes OOPS individually, not the whole /notes/ UI
[19:05] <diverse_izzue> nessita, verterok, i'm back. any epiphanies meanwhile?
[19:06] <nessita> diverse_izzue: I think you discovered/exercised a bug in our code :-), right verterok?
[19:06] <verterok> nessita: indeed
[19:06] <diverse_izzue> nessita, i have a talent for that
[19:06] <diverse_izzue> easy fix?
[19:07] <verterok> diverse_izzue: probably, we need to write some tests to be sure fixing this don't break anything ;)
[19:09] <diverse_izzue> verterok, sure, it's too late in the release cycle to introduce new bugs with fixes for others... is there a bug to which i can subscribe?
[19:10] <verterok> diverse_izzue: indeed, I don't think there is a bug for this, but rye might know better
[19:10] <diverse_izzue> rye just left :-)
[19:10] <verterok> yeap :/
[19:23] <verterok> diverse_izzue: I can't find a matching bug, could you file one? :)
[19:28] <diverse_izzue> verterok, ok. what do i write? i unsubscribed from a folder, but what exactly does it keep doing that it shouldn't?
[19:29] <verterok> diverse_izzue: local rescan process unsubscribed folder
[19:29] <verterok> diverse_izzue: and please detail the behaviour you'r seeing
[19:30] <diverse_izzue> verterok, will do, that's in ubuntuone-client?
[19:30] <verterok> diverse_izzue: yes, thanks!
[19:31] <verterok> diverse_izzue: I'll start working on the issue ASAP
[19:35] <diverse_izzue> verterok, it's bug 561713. could you please just look over it, and maybe add some details in tech lingo that i can't?
[19:36]  * verterok looks
[19:37] <verterok> diverse_izzue: the bug description it's perfect, thanks a lot!
[19:38] <verterok> Chipaca, joshuahoover: ping, bug #561713
[19:38] <joshuahoover> verterok: hmmm...
[19:40] <verterok> joshuahoover: yes, very bad timing for this kind of bug :(
[19:40] <joshuahoover> verterok: this is a syncdaemon bug, then, correct?
[19:40] <verterok> joshuahoover: yes, I just confirmed and assigned it to foundations+
[19:42] <joshuahoover> verterok: check with lucio, but unless this is a bug we can confidently fix in the next 2 days, we should push this as an sru rather than for lucid final
[19:43] <joshuahoover> verterok: and what i mean by "confidently fix" i mean, we can properly test it and feel good about the fix going in such a short period of time :)
[19:43] <verterok> joshuahoover: ok, I'll talk with lucio
[19:43] <verterok> joshuahoover: got it ;)
[19:45] <diverse_izzue> joshuahoover, i'll try and be around the next two days so that i can test anything you need to have tested
[19:46] <diverse_izzue> joshuahoover, (i'm the reporter)
[19:46] <joshuahoover> diverse_izzue: great! thank you for reporting the problem!
[20:36] <dobey> duanedesign: ping
[20:36] <dobey> duanedesign: how exactly did you replicate #554522 ?
[20:52] <duanedesign> hello dobey
[20:52]  * duanedesign looking
[20:53] <dobey> hi
[20:55] <duanedesign> dobey: right-clicking on a folder outside of the $HOME  the menu gives you the option to Syncronize with Ubuntu One. Selecting that option results in nothing happening.
[20:56] <duanedesign> which of course is what is supposed to happen. However the user was wanting additional feedback that this failed, or is not allowed
[20:58] <duanedesign> I maybe 'supposed' to happen isnt the right wording. I actually cant comment on what is supposed to happen. :)
[20:59] <dobey> what's supposed to happen is that the option shouldn't show up in the menu outside of $HOME :)
[20:59] <dobey> (or even on $HOME itself)
[20:59] <duanedesign> i did notice something...
[21:01] <duanedesign> hmm, well nevermind. I thought I did notice a scenario where that option did not show up.
[21:01] <duanedesign> ill kkepp poking around
[21:31] <verterok> diverse_izzue: branch with proposed fix attached to the bug ;)
[21:31] <diverse_izzue> verterok, you guys rock :-)
[21:32] <diverse_izzue> verterok, how can i test that if it's not packaged?
[21:32] <verterok> diverse_izzue: you could wait to be pushed to the nightly ppa, or directly run it from trunk
[21:33] <diverse_izzue> i want to run directly from trunk. could you just give me the bazaar fu necessary?
[21:33] <verterok> diverse_izzue: what version of ubuntuone-client do you have installed?
[21:34] <verterok> diverse_izzue: I'm asking becaue you might need a newer protocol revno too
[21:34] <lee_cow> anyone have copy of ubuntuone-couchdb-query as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/PhoneSync/ does not seem to have the attachment....
[21:34] <diverse_izzue> verterok, ah... then maybe i wait and test tomorrow morning
[21:34] <verterok> diverse_izzue: :)
[21:34] <diverse_izzue> the nightlies get built in the european night?
[21:35] <verterok> diverse_izzue: no idea, let me check
[21:35] <diverse_izzue> verterok, the client was published an hour ago
[21:38] <diverse_izzue> that probably doesn't include the fix yet, does it?
[21:38] <verterok> diverse_izzue: no, isn't in trunk yet
[21:40] <verterok> rmcbride: thanks!
[21:42] <diverse_izzue> verterok, are you sure that i need a newer proc rev as well? if yes, can i run that from trunk as well?
[21:42] <verterok> diverse_izzue: if you have the required protocol installed, you can run it from trunk, let me check
[21:45] <verterok> diverse_izzue: I'm checking what's in lucid, gimme 1'
[21:46] <verterok> diverse_izzue: you need the latest trunk of the ubuntuone-storage-protocol in order to use ubuntuone-client trunk :(
[21:50] <dobey> ah crap, i guess i do have to release that today too
[21:50]  * verterok hugs dobey
[21:52] <diverse_izzue> verterok, so advice is i wait until the stuff is in the ppa?
[21:52] <verterok> diverse_izzue: yes, unless you want to install a few deps to build trunk :)
[21:53] <dobey> verterok, diverse_izzue: the latest u-s-p is in the nightlies ppa
[21:53] <verterok> dobey: oh, nice. thanks
[21:53] <rmcbride> Yea I was just about to mention that
[21:54] <rmcbride> I had to build that protocol package and install it before I could build client packages :)
[21:55] <rmcbride> I'm about to toss current nightlies into the BETA PPA, once a couple tests on this end completes. That'll let me rebuild nightlies as soon as verterok's fix is in
[21:58] <diverse_izzue> sweet. i installed that. verterok, can you instruct me how to get the client from bzr?
[21:59] <verterok> diverse_izzue: if you want to test my fix: bzr branch lp:~verterok/ubuntuone-client/local_rescan-only-active-volumes
[21:59] <verterok> diverse_izzue: but if you wait a few minutes it will land in trunk :)
[22:07] <diverse_izzue> verterok, i'll wait a little while and test as soon as stuff hits the nightly ppa. thanks you all for your efforts!
[22:07] <verterok> diverse_izzue: great! :)
[22:07] <jchris> hello
[22:07] <jchris> I've finally installed Lucid
[22:07] <jchris> and run gwibber
[22:07] <jchris> it's neat
[22:08] <jchris> but I can't find my CouchDB so I can see what it's storing
[22:08] <jchris> anyone know how to find it
[22:10] <beuno> jchris, .local/share/desktop-couch/
[22:10] <jchris> hah found it
[22:10] <jchris> thanks!
[22:12] <rye> beuno, http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/ubuntuone-scripts/desktopcouch-futon.py
[22:13] <rye> jchris, ^
[22:13] <beuno> rye, what does that do?
[22:13] <jchris> I just stuck that couchdb.html in my menu bar
[22:13] <rye> beuno, sorry, that was sent to jchris, that thing opens futon in the browser since I don't always believe the bookmark-writing code
[22:14] <jchris> ... hmm
[22:14] <jchris> hope it works for now
[22:14] <jchris> I'm trying to get to the bottom of the complaints people have had about gwibber & couchdb
[22:33] <dobey> which complaints?
[22:45] <jchris> dobey:  I follow the couchdb search on twitter and hear a lot of people talking about too much cpu usage, or gwibber not finding the port, etc
[22:45] <jchris> maybe not a lot, but it's one of the more prevalent things I hear about couchdb on ubuntu
[22:45] <jchris> I'm using it and it seems fine to me
[23:01] <rickspencer3> jchris, for checking out your dekstop couch:
[23:01] <rickspencer3> lp:slip-cover
[23:01] <rickspencer3> if you want to give it a whirl, I'd be interested in your feedback
[23:05] <nhaines> jcastro: thanks for your review of the Nexus One car dock!
[23:05] <nhaines> I'd checked to see if it was available last week and hadn't seen it.  So I was able to order one myself.
[23:59] <ajmitch> dobey: ping, can bug 506114 be closed?


[02:18] <ianorlin> ok the build is added but is the image building?
[02:19] <ianorlin> wxl flexiondotorg are the isos building?
[02:40] <krytarik> ianorlin: These would be the respective places to check for them anyway: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/xenial/lubuntu , https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/xenial/ubuntu-mate
[02:49] <krytarik> There, the Mate ones are building now.
[02:50] <krytarik> So, looks like they'll just be built at the usually scheduled time.
[03:03] <wxl> ianorlin: which ones?
[04:18] <ianorlin> the alpha 2 ones
[04:18] <ianorlin> for lubuntu or ubuntu-mate
[04:18] <ianorlin> oh nmv it shows today image
[17:29] <phillw> flexiondotorg: as soon as you have 32 / 64 bit Iso's stable, let me know and I'll test. I cannot do the PPC one as my test machine is CD only.
[17:34] <krytarik> phillw: "<flexiondotorg> The existing images are good enough." - in -release earlier today.
[17:35] <phillw> krytarik: thanks. I'm just finishing off the 32bit lubuntu alternate
[17:37] <phillw> and want to a live run to confirm if the reboot and KVM bug is still present.
[17:54] <flexiondotorg> phillw, I think 32/64 bit images are "OK". If you can test, would be great.
[17:54] <flexiondotorg> I will test Ubuntu MATE PPC tonight.
[17:55] <flexiondotorg> If I get time, I will smoke test Lubuntu PPC.
[17:55] <flexiondotorg> Basically and boot/install test.
[17:56] <flexiondotorg> wxl, I've drafted a release announcement.
[17:56] <flexiondotorg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/Alpha2/ReleaseAnnouncement
[18:00] <phillw> flexiondotorg: cool, I've just had a shock... I can not find a CD-RW anywhere!!!! So, I hope my remaining stock of cd-r's are up for it!
[18:07] <wxl> flexiondotorg: thank you sir :)
[18:15] <wxl> flexiondotorg: if you haven't linked that to the Alpha2 page, please do
[18:16] <phillw> flexiondotorg: Im NOT seeing Bug 1447038 with KVM in live mode. Are you using Vbox or something else?
[18:19] <phillw> flexiondotorg: also, the i386 and ppc for mate still show as re-building. I suspect that they have hung?
[19:30] <phillw> wxl: cd has passed a manual md5sum on piglet... So, we shall see what the Mac makes of it later.... Now, it is hold down the 'C' key once CD is 'sucked in' to make the mac boot from CD?
[22:12] <phillw> flexiondotorg: wxl the elderly iMac seems to have passed away in its sleep. Despite a couple of hours trying, it can not boot from its own HDD, nor the rescue CD's that came with it (even after using a cd drive cleaner).
[22:13] <phillw> I have the dubious task of ripping it open to extract the HDD which still has data which is not to go a 'recyling' center.
[23:49] <flexiondotorg> phillw, I see it in VirtualBox.
[23:49] <flexiondotorg> Never saw it in KVM.
[23:49] <flexiondotorg> But did in VMware way back.
[23:49] <flexiondotorg> phillw, The rebuilding thing I brought up earlier with Foundations.
[23:50] <flexiondotorg> They "fixed" it.
[23:50] <flexiondotorg> Just ignore it.
[23:50] <flexiondotorg> They are not rebuilding.
[23:51] <phillw> I saw it briefly, but there were other issues at the time with repos being a bit screwy. The devs use KVM, so most of the time - they get them patched fairly quickly :)
[23:52] <phillw> flexiondotorg: okies, tsimonq2 has been asked to run some tests for you guys. The poorly PPC ate up all my time, but as we have until friday now - I'll be sure to give them a couple of tests tomorrow.
[23:53]  * flexiondotorg is burning DVD of Ubuntu MATE PPC.
[23:53] <flexiondotorg> Will test Lubuntu PPC tomorrow.
[23:54]  * phillw found CD of xubuntu-ppc 9-04 edition.... guess that Mac was just packed away for too long.... (It was ~ 10 years even then!)
[23:55] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg: I'll do it tomorrow afternoon, I am helping with Lubuntu bug reports for the release notes and I have some other projects I need to make headway on...
[23:55] <phillw> it was packed in with the original CD's from Apple :)


[00:30] <callmepk> good morning
[05:34] <jibel> Good morning desktop!
[05:52] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[05:53] <oSoMoN> happy summer solstice!
[05:59] <duflu> Hi jibel and oSoMoN. Happy winter solstice
[05:59] <oSoMoN> hey duflu, that too :)
[06:11] <ricotz> good morning everyone
[06:20] <jibel> Hi duflu oSoMoN ricotz
[06:29] <oSoMoN> hey ricotz, salut jibel
[06:37] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[06:40] <ricotz> hey jibel oSoMoN duflu seb128
[06:40] <duflu> Hi seb128 and ricotz
[06:52] <jibel> salut seb128
[07:03] <seb128> lut jibel, hey ricotz and duflu, how are you? had a nice weekend?
[07:03] <seb128> ricotz, libreoffice rebuilt with gcc8 worked, it migrated with the rest of the poppler transition
[07:05] <ricotz> seb128, hey, I started bisecting gcc which is quite some trouble :(
[07:06] <callmepk> hi jibel oSoMoN duflu ricotz
[07:06] <ricotz> seb128, yeah, switching to gcc-8 was the one reason to get this transition going :)
[07:06] <ricotz> hitting "The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem." in two steps already
[07:08] <jibel> Hi callmepk
[07:08] <seb128> ricotz, :(
[07:08] <seb128> hey callmepk
[07:09] <callmepk> and also hi seb128
[07:29] <ricotz> seb128, given this issue doesn't occur on debian this starts to look like a problem with the virtualized armhf builders
[07:29] <ricotz> triggered by a change in gcc
[07:41] <seb128> ricotz, you could try to ask if someone here could do a test build on a raspi device
[07:41] <seb128> I don't have one but laney has for example
[07:49] <ricotz> seb128, I going to let the ppa builders do some more work to narrow it down
[07:50] <ricotz> there are successful builds too
[07:50] <ricotz> which don't show the regression
[07:53] <seb128> weird
[07:54] <ricotz> of course the gcc revision is different
[08:00] <oSoMoN> good morning seb128, good afternoon callmepk
[08:05] <laney> \o
[08:06] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk jibel oSoMoN duflu ricotz seb128 laney
[08:07] <oSoMoN> morning laney, marcustomlinson
[08:07] <duflu> Hi laney and marcustomlinson
[08:07] <didrocks> good morning
[08:07] <marcustomlinson> hey didrocks
[08:08] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson
[08:08] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[08:08] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[08:13] <ricotz> hello laney marcustomlinson didrocks
[08:13] <didrocks> hey ricotz
[08:15] <jibel> Salut didrocks marcustomlinson
[08:18] <laney> bleep
[08:19] <laney> everything broke, I think I'm here now
[08:20] <didrocks> salut jibel
[08:20] <didrocks> hey laney
[08:23] <laney> hey marcustomlinson oSoMoN duflu ricotz didrocks jibel
[08:23] <laney> looks like my server rebooted over the weekend, the raspberry pi with the DNS server was not responding and one of the wifi APs was offline too
[08:23] <laney> /o\
[08:23] <jibel> Hey laney
[09:06] <seb128> hey laney, how are you? had a nice weekend?
[12:09] <k_alam> Trevinho gsettings-desktop schemas removed several which are still being used by u-s-d, lightdm...now lightdm can not load unity. Can you patch them back ?
[12:10] <Trevinho> k_alam: I think it's better to just fix the missing pieces moving them into the unity namespace
[12:11] <Trevinho> k_alam: keeping such legacy stuff in there is just making us keeping stuff we can't easily track down
[12:13] <k_alam> Trevinho Move them inside com/canonical/unity ?
[12:14] <Trevinho> k_alam: yep
[12:14] <Trevinho> k_alam: could be even use the gnome namespace, not that is great, but acceptable for legacy keys
[12:14] <Trevinho> but... being there I'd just rename them all
[12:17] <k_alam> Trevinho This means rebuilding all the related components...Can you explain keeping gnome namespace part?
[12:18] <Trevinho> k_alam: yeah, but how many components are in play?
[12:18] <Trevinho> k_alam: I mean, in theory you could just reuse the removed keys as they are but ship them as part of the unity package... not that is nice, but a shortcut
[12:19] <Trevinho> i'd say the best way is just to rename everything
[12:19] <k_alam> definately u-c-c, u-s-d, unity, greeter, notify-osd..may be more
[12:41] <Trevinho> k_alam: what were them though, https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/commit/4559161f2b1b4795afdb7f7406d6da105c72d or https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/commit/83fcb27389376f64583f0a3c83fa9ba14253a721
[12:42] <Trevinho> or... where the others that upstream removed?
[12:43] <Trevinho> these are the upstream changes https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/compare/ubuntu%2F3.38.0-1ubuntu1...ubuntu%2Fmaster
[12:57] <k_alam> Trevinho Thanks. No, those were all..upstream only moved some of gnome-settings-daemon keys..
[14:27] <jibel> didrocks, FYI bug 1933116
[14:46] <didrocks> thanks jibel
[16:55] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop tags 8fb9ed9 Marco Trevisan upstream/40.2 * Upstream version 40.2 * https://deb.li/3H3DR
[16:55] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop upstream/latest c8949ed Marco Trevisan * pushed 67 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/854D
[16:56] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop upstream/latest 653de86 Аляксей po/be.po * Update Belarusian translation * https://deb.li/3NWzz
[16:56] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop upstream/latest 19af290 A S Alam po/pa.po * Update Punjabi translation * https://deb.li/RWMl
[16:56] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop upstream/latest a56f134 Takao Fujiwara libgnome-desktop/gnome-xkb-info.c * xkbinfo: Update iso639Ids but not iso3166Ids correctly in evdev * https://deb.li/3z1RI
[16:56] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop upstream/latest fb79d00 Abderrahim Kitouni NEWS meson.build * 40.beta * https://deb.li/33CjE
[16:56] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop upstream/latest bda611c Bastien Nocera libgnome-desktop/gnome-desktop-thumbnail-script.c * thumbnail: Fix non-working thumbnailer in Flatpak * https://deb.li/iOyve
[16:56] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop pristine-tar c54905c Marco Trevisan (Treviño) gnome-desktop3_40.2.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-desktop3_40.2.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-desktop3_40.2.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/U73G
[19:10] <KGB-0> totem tags 3413500 Sebastien Bacher upstream/3.38.1 * Upstream version 3.38.1 * https://deb.li/VeWC
[19:11] <KGB-0> totem upstream/latest 11be0f9 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 53 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3tS9i
[19:11] <KGB-0> totem upstream/latest 30a9cfd Rafael Fontenelle help/pt_BR/pt_BR.po * Update Brazilian Portuguese translation * https://deb.li/GtC0
[19:11] <KGB-0> totem upstream/latest 8f8c8c1 Ngọc Quân Trần po/vi.po * Update Vietnamese translation * https://deb.li/3yYX2
[19:11] <KGB-0> totem upstream/latest 7899781 Sabri Ünal po/tr.po * Update Turkish translation * https://deb.li/Eehs
[19:11] <KGB-0> totem upstream/latest 1794a8d Bastien Nocera flatpak/org.gnome.Totem.Devel.json * Fix remote shares access with gvfs * https://deb.li/3Ji5U
[19:11] <KGB-0> totem upstream/latest d70e659 Bastien Nocera src/gst/totem-gst-helpers.c * gst: Block more plugins that can't be used for thumbnailing * https://deb.li/LpkF
[19:12] <KGB-0> totem pristine-tar 351fad4 Sebastien Bacher totem_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz.delta totem_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for totem_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/Xscn
[19:17] <KGB-0> totem signed tags 8e34fd7 Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/3.38.1-1ubuntu1 * totem Debian release 3.38.1-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/iUtk7
[19:17] <KGB-0> totem ubuntu/master 0a4e2a0 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 279 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/ts8y
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[12:25] (mdz/#ubuntu-mobile) Mithrandir: I changed the status of the hildon-libs branches to Abandoned so they don't show up and confuse people.  I assume you'll handle the package removal from the archive?
[12:40] <heno> mdz: onBoard will need a few tweaks for the mobile edition, should I spec that up? Chris has said he can work on it
[01:08] <Mithrandir> mdz: yes, I'll get it removed.
[01:13] !RichiH:*! Hi all. As you probably noticed, one of our sponsors had trouble with his upstream. Everything should be back to normal, now. Sorry for the inconvenience, thanks for using freenode and have a great day :)
[03:43] (mdz/#ubuntu-mobile) Mithrandir: how is hildon-1 coming along?  the URL that lucas posted to -mobile looks useful
[03:43] <Mithrandir> yes, I found that a couple of days back; hildon-1 in bzr compiles, but I haven't uploaded packages of it yet.
[06:28] <MDK> hey, I'm the hildon-1 maintainer on the nokia side
[06:28] <MDK> so feel free to ask questions
[06:29] <Mithrandir> coolie. :-)
[06:29] <MDK> I think you might also want to include our development theme in your set
[06:30] <MDK> since widgets without theming are pretty useless
[06:30] <Mithrandir> they won't fall back to some default theming?
[06:31] <MDK> it will
[06:31] <MDK> but the 'default theming' is fairly ugly
[06:31] <MDK> we relly on 100% pixmap-based theming
[06:31] <Mithrandir> ok
[06:31] <MDK> so in the code you have actual references to styles/pixmaps
[06:33] <Mithrandir> packaging a theme should be easy enough.
[06:33] <Mithrandir> or we should just be able to sync from your sources.
[06:35] <MDK> basically you want hildon-theme-layout-4 and hildon-theme-layout-plankton
[06:35] <MDK> -layout-4 is a "matrix" for the theme, stuff shared among all themes
[06:35] <MDK> -plankton is one particular implementation of the theme, our development theme
[06:36] <MDK> I had a blog entry about the model: http://www.mdk.org.pl/articles/2007/02/13/maemo-theming
[06:37] <Mithrandir> ok
[07:28] <Mithrandir> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/05/09/1637253 is a review of maemo 3.1; might be interesting to read.


[00:37] <cjohnston> pleia2: can the 2009 courses be moved to the archive for classroom?
[00:38] <Pendulum> cjohnston: she's not really around until Monday
[00:40] <cjohnston> ya, I saw that earlier, I just figured I'd put it there since I was thinking about it
[00:40] <cjohnston> how are you Pendulum
[00:44] <Pendulum> haven't had enough champagne and now it's all gone :(
[00:44] <Pendulum> (I shouldn't complain really, though, as I think it was the 4th night in a row that there was champagne)
[00:48] <cjohnston> lol
[00:48] <cjohnston> I wish i could do some drinking
[01:02] <nigel_nb> _marx_: around?
[01:26] <cjohnston> hey nigel_nb
[01:26] <nigel_nb> hey cjohnston :)
[01:26] <nigel_nb> is Pendulum around?
[01:27] <cjohnston> she was
[01:32] <nigel_nb> oh no, I just missed her
[01:38] <Pendulum> nigel_nb: what's up?
[01:39] <nigel_nb> Pendulum: wanted to know about the screencasts
[01:42] <Pendulum> i can't promise tonight, but I can promise before monday (one problem with being at my parents' for the last 10 days is i forgot how loud it is, but I will either manage it after they go to bed tonight or once I'm back in my flat tomorrow)
[01:46] <_marx_> yo nigel_nb
[01:46] <nigel_nb> great Pendulum, just checking
[01:47] <nigel_nb> _marx_: share it via ubuntu one please, I mailed you about it :)
[01:47] <_marx_> right just saw that
[15:37] <bishops> hello
[15:38] <bishops> i have this problem with my wireless driver can't activate it
[15:44] <bishops> http://paste.ubuntu.com/350844/
[15:44] <nigel_nb> bishops: this is not a support channel, please ask in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-beginners-help
[15:44] <bishops> oh sorry
[15:44] <bishops> thanks
[15:54] <starcraftman> bishops: this isn't a support channel. Please try #ubuntu-beginners-help
[15:54] <bishops> yes nigel_nb told me
[15:54] <bishops> i am trying the other channel but no answer
[15:54] <starcraftman> ah, alright then, just making sure.
[15:55] <bishops> no problem thanks
[16:58] <cjohnston> mornin


[18:15] <octoquad> evening, is there a java or jdk package I can re-assign this bug to? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1507848


[00:18] <Dotted> how do you create a new user on ubuntu 10.10 with a blank password? all my attempts using passwd, editing /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow has "su" still asking for a password even if its blank
[00:24] <flaccid> Dotted: use sudo with the ubuntu user and adduser
[00:25] <Dotted> the user is already created
[00:25] <flaccid> what shell does the user have in /etc/passwd?
[00:32] <Dotted> /bin/bash
[00:33] <flaccid> are you doing su from root?
[00:33] <Dotted> yeah from an init script
[00:33] <Dotted> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server_startup_script#Script
[00:33] <flaccid> check logs to see what the issue is i guess
[00:34] <flaccid> maybe it needs to be a system user or something
[00:34] <flaccid> add -x to the init script to see how it bombs out too
[00:35] <flaccid> someone needs to package that software
[00:41] <Dotted> http://pastie.org/1637811
[00:44] <flaccid> [ root == ubuntu ] is incorrect bash syntax
[00:44] <flaccid> causes [: 1: root: unexpected operator
[00:44] <flaccid> also it does su to ubuntu user after that and not root user
[00:45] <flaccid> thats intentional but yeah. this is not a good init script at all.
[00:45] <Dotted> well ideally it would su to minecraft user, just used ubuntu here for testing
[00:47] <flaccid>  if [ "$ME" == "$USERNAME" ] ; then should be  if [ "$ME" = "$USERNAME" ] ; then
[00:50] <Dotted> http://pastie.org/1637831
[00:54] <flaccid> run su - ubuntu -c cd /home/ubuntu/minecraft and also screen -dmS minecraft java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+CMSIncrementalPacing -XX:ParallelGCThreads=1 -XX:+AggressiveOpts -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
[00:54] <flaccid> then check ps
[00:54] <flaccid> at least one of the processes is dying thus why if ps ax | grep -v grep | grep -v -i SCREEN | grep $SERVICE > /dev/null fails
[00:55] <flaccid> though this is all the wrong way to do this stuff but meh..
[01:04] <Dotted> Password:
[01:04] <Dotted> su: Authentication failure
[01:05] <Dotted> and thats the problem in a nutshell, despite blank password it still asks for it
[01:05] <Dotted> happends on both ubuntu and minecraft user
[01:06] <flaccid> that would be expected. its meant to be run under root.
[01:07] <Dotted> minecraft_server.jar is meant to be run as root?
[01:08] <Dotted> that seems highly unlikely
[01:17] <flaccid> no the init script. as you can see there is a USERNAME variable and it uses su -c to run it under this username
[01:17] <flaccid> you won't be able to su properly without root
[01:17] <flaccid> su != sudo
[01:20] <Dotted> well the init script is already run as root
[01:21] <Dotted> sudo sh -x /etc/init.d/minecraft start
[01:21] <flaccid> su to root. then see if you can su to the user you want to su to, if it succeeds well..
[01:23] <flaccid> if you are doing su as root, afaik, it should never ask for a password..
[01:23] <flaccid> i guess maybe need to check something like /etc/pamd.d/su though
[01:24] <flaccid> you might like to also ask in #ubuntu and ##bash as this isn't really cloud related.
[01:26] <Dotted> didnt get a response in #ubuntu, anyways getting too late for me, thanks for all your help


[17:25] <whit> hazmat, http://www.eventbrite.com/e/conducting-systems-and-services-an-evening-about-orchestration-tickets-16869087896
[17:26] <hazmat> whit: you may have to promise him bacon
[17:27] <whit> hazmat, I have access to amazing bacon


[01:38] <MavKen> how can I get each domain on my vps to sendout mail from its domain and not show up in gmail as "sent from domain1.com via domain.com" ?
[01:39] <sarnold> MavKen: do you have IPs for each of these domains?
[01:39] <MavKen> no
[01:39] <MavKen> im on vps at digitalocean..cant get more than 1 ip
[01:40] <MavKen> i used trial version of cpanel and it worked great... just didnt want to pay $200
[01:40] <sarnold> cpanel costs $200???
[01:41] <sarnold> it'd be cheaper and more reliable to just put your ssh root key on your webserver and ask people to help admin your machine :) hehe
[01:41] <sheptard> lol
[02:04] <rostam> HI I am running ubuntu 12.04, how could I check whether firewall is running and disable it? thx
[03:02] <BiteMe> rostam: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-iptables-how-to-flush-all-rules.html
[03:02] <BiteMe> Google is your friend
[04:02] <cfhowlett> !ufw|rostam
[04:02] <cfhowlett> rostam, note that firewall is disabled by default
[04:37] <MavKen> are there any user provisioning scripts out there to make it easier to add a new user and virtual host on apache?  trying to avoid getting a control panel
[04:39] <cfhowlett> MavKen, might want to ask the apache channel for something that specific
[04:39] <MavKen> ok thanks
[04:43] <MavKen> I have a VPS, if I use tasksel to install mail server does it take care of all configuration?
[04:50] <MavKen> I want php scripts in each of my virtual domains to be able to send out mail and it be from the specific demand.  I tried exim4 but only primary domain worked correctly, the others would show up "from domain1.com via domain.com" - is there a better option than exim4?  i dont need a full blown mail server
[05:04] <MattTheRat> MavKen: sendmail is pretty default or postfix
[05:05] <MavKen> ok
[05:26] <ScottK> postfix is the standard MTA in Ubuntu.
[09:47] <psivaa> https://code.launchpad.net/~psivaa/ubuntu-test-cases/mod_php-fix/+merge/204273
[09:47] <psivaa> https://code.launchpad.net/~psivaa/ubuntu-test-cases/bloat-min-install-amd64/+merge/208025
[09:48] <psivaa> https://code.launchpad.net/~psivaa/ubuntu-test-cases/entropy-for-tomcat-daemon/+merge/208036
[09:48] <psivaa> rbasak: jamespage: would you mind doing ACK/NACK the above MP's for smoke test failures please?
[11:05] <rbasak> psivaa: I don't understand https://code.launchpad.net/~psivaa/ubuntu-test-cases/bloat-min-install-amd64/+merge/208025 and I have to run right now, sorry. Maybe jamespage can look at that one when he's back?
[11:05] <psivaa> rbasak: ack, thanks for the other reviews. they all need manual merging from the server developers as well
[11:09] <rbasak> psivaa: OK. I have to run right now, but I'll try and merge them for you too. I assume I just need to push the merged branch?
[11:10] <psivaa> rbasak: yes. that's all you need to do
[11:16] <rbasak> psivaa: I have to run. I managed to push merge one proposal. The other seems to want me to fix something up (diverged branches or merge conflict?) and my bzr-fu is weak so I'll try again this afternoon if somebody doesn't beat me to it.
[11:16] <rbasak> psivaa: thank you for sorting these out!
[11:16] <psivaa> rbasak: ack, thank you
[12:45] <hackeron> hey, I'm trying to run /usr/sbin/debootstrap --verbose --arch amd64 saucy target -- but I'm getting: E: Couldn't download dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/Packages -- any ideas?
[12:45] <hackeron> looking at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/ - I see Packages.bz2 but no file that is just Packages - maybe this is why?
[12:57] <jamespage> zul, dashboard is functional again - ish
[12:57] <jamespage> need to sort out the links in the openstack-dashboard package
[13:05] <zul> jamespage:  what was wrong?
[13:06] <jamespage> zul, django 1.6 compat in openstack-auth
[13:06] <zul> jamespage:  ah
[13:06] <jamespage> cherry picked some fixes
[13:06] <jamespage> zul, I looked a zigo's debian package which contains the same patches but it looks like its missing a load of files
[13:06] <jamespage> locale data?
[13:06] <zul> possibly
[13:29] <jamespage> psivaa, merged - thanks!
[13:30] <psivaa> jamespage: ack, thank you
[13:46] <adac> What is the default document root in nginx?
[13:47] <ikonia> should be set in the config
[13:47] <ikonia> have a look in the config,
[13:52] <adac> ikonia, I cannot find a value in nginx.conf
[13:56] <ikonia> adac: really ? there is nothing showing the default content location ?
[13:56] <adac> ikonia, it is set in the default vhost
[13:57] <ikonia> so if it's set...then it's set there isn't it ?
[13:57] <ikonia> as in if you've set it for the default vhost, then thats where it is
[13:57] <ikonia> or am I missunderstanding what you're asking
[13:59] <adac> ikonia, I thought it was set within nginx.conf but instead it was set within default vhost
[13:59] <adac> yes set is set :)
[14:01] <zul> jamespage:  libvirt 1.2.2 is on my todo list :)
[14:05] <pmatulis_> hallyn: hi.  anything special about creating a Lucid LXC container on Saucy?  it doesn't work.  although a Precise container does.  -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/6994531/
[14:22] <jamespage> zul, lovely - thought it might be
[14:22] <jamespage> zul, any thoughts on wido's other patch?
[14:23] <zul> jamespage:  hold on...i dont have a problem with it
[14:23] <zul> looks like its going to be in 1.2.2 anyways
[14:29] <jamespage> zul, a review on https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/swift/add-object-expirer/+merge/207883 would be great if you have time
[14:29] <jamespage> have another one for horizon in test atm
[14:30] <zul> jamespage:  can you remove the python-swiftclient dependency at the same time please?
[14:31] <jamespage> zul, from horizon?
[14:31] <zul> no from swift
[14:31] <jamespage> zul, ok
[14:32] <zul> jamespage:  it was removed 19 days agao
[14:32] <zul> 1.13.0 should be out soon as well
[14:32] <jamespage> zul, of swift?
[14:32] <zul> jamespage:  yes
[14:36] <mc_bluebeard> I have a server that will regularly lose power. Is there anything I can do minimize the probability of the filesystem becoming corrupted?
[14:37] <jamespage> zul, https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/horizon/icehouse-tidy-and-fix/+merge/208145
[14:40] <zul> jamespage:  commented
[14:44] <jamespage> zul, updated
[14:45] <zul> jamespage:  +1
[14:46] <jamespage> ta
[14:48] <jamespage> zul, OK - I think that's horizon functional again
[14:49] <jamespage> it was a bit busted
[14:50] <zul> heh ok
[14:50] <zul> can you upload it to trusty and the the ca if you havent already done so
[14:50] <zul> never mind i should just check my email more ofent :)
[14:51] <hallyn> pmatulis: I'm not sure.  On trusty I can certainly create a lucid container using the download template
[14:51] <hallyn> installing a saucy vm to test...
[14:52] <caribou_> jamespage: who's looking at the Neutron's charm these days ?
[14:53] <jamespage> caribou, numerous different people
[14:54] <caribou> jamespage: ah, ok. looking to see if adding a functionality to set sysctl values would be easy
[14:54] <caribou> jamespage: i.e. having the charm set sysctl kernel values upon startup
[15:00] <hallyn> smb oh - 3.12 working for nested qemu, that's awesome news, easier to bisect than having to go across a differently-buggy 3.11 :)
[15:01] <smb> hallyn, Yeah, though as always things break with 3.13-rc1 which is the "most things changed" step
[15:01] <hallyn> yeah
[15:08] <rbasak> jamespage: ah, you've merged the other branches. Thanks!
[15:12] <jamespage> rbasak, np
[15:28] <zul> jamespage:  when you get a chance http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6994919/
[15:29] <jamespage> zul, havana not grizzly dude
[15:31] <jamespage> zul, sorting now
[15:31] <jamespage> zul, odd - each MP appears to drop some of adam's previous changelog entry
[15:31] <jamespage> that does not sound right
[15:31] <zul> it doesnt
[15:32] <hallyn> pmatulis: I don't know,  it works for me in a saucy instance.
[15:33] <zul> jamespage:  please hold on reviewing them
[15:34] <zul> i think we are going to have an issue with nova
[15:35] <jamespage> zul, ok - holding off
[15:44] <smoser> rbasak, ping
[15:44] <smoser> https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/run-status/+merge/208056
[15:45] <smoser> you can't atomically rename over an existing file, can you?
[15:48] <smoser> ie, i didn't think this was atomic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6995003/
[15:50] <smoser> hm.. seems i'm wrong: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2333872/atomic-writing-to-file-with-python
[15:51] <rbasak> smoser: pong. Yes, AIUI you can. Sorted now?
[15:52] <smoser> yeah. i had just not bothered with rename because i thought there was a different potential race condition
[15:52] <smoser> due to the deletion of the file. but yeah, i'll use that.
[16:58] <tash> can you add static routes via preseed? I can't find anything useful saying so, but have the need.
[17:55] <smoser> hallyn, is lxc in trusty supposed to function without cgroup-lite or cgroups ?
[17:55] <smoser> (it is only Recommends right now)
[17:55] <hallyn> smoser: not until cgmanager hits main, I'm afraid.  but when released yes
[17:56] <smoser> ok. thats kind of whta i thought.
[17:56] <smoser> tych0, ^.
[17:56] <tych0> smoser: yep
[17:56] <hallyn> ubuntu installs recommends by default yes?
[17:56] <smoser> so i thikn probably just remove the explicit depends. whatever is doing 'apt-get' should by default get the Recommends also.
[17:56] <smoser> yeah.
[17:57] <tych0> oh
[17:57] <tych0> we didn't get it in gdebi, i guess
[17:57] <hallyn> of course you can just mount /cgroup by hand or something.  you don't *depend* on cgroup-lite
[17:58] <smoser> gdebi, for serious.
[17:58] <tych0> for serious
[17:58] <tych0> is there something better?
[17:59] <smoser> you're not using it other than by hand, right?
[17:59] <tych0> right
[17:59] <smoser> to have it resolve your dependencies (and apparently not recommends)
[18:00] <tych0> just for package development
[18:00] <tych0> yeah
[18:00] <smoser> yeah. i dont know how i'd do that.
[18:00] <tych0> dpkg -i and apt-get install -f
[18:00] <tych0> seems like a ridiculous way to develop packages :-)
[18:01] <smoser> i think ihave to agree with that. but i would have expected gdebi to invoke apt, which would have had the default '--install-recommends'
[18:01] <smoser> hm..
[18:01] <smoser> oh well.
[18:02] <smoser> rcj, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1052089 . you understand the issue there ?
[18:06] <rcj> smoser, yes on second look I do. There was some confusion this morning while discussing it.  Sorry for the hassle.
[18:12] <jamespage> zul, generally the changelog's need some work
[18:12] <jamespage> I'd probably drop the entries dealing with bumping version numbers as well
[18:15] <zul> ack thanks for looking
[18:47] <zul> jamespage:  cinder updated
[18:52] <zul> jamespage:  glance updated
[18:53] <jamespage> zul, can you check then through in the MP's - I'll review tomorrow AM
[18:53] <zul> jamespage:  ack
[20:42] <hallyn> zul: any good reason not to put 2.0 qemu candidates into the ubuntu-virt/ppa?  Should I create a custom ppa for it?
[20:43] <zul> hallyn:  do it
[20:46] <hallyn> k
[20:47] <RoyK> what's new with qemu2? doesn't look like it's released
[20:50] <Daviey> hallyn: Did you see the latest comment on the FFe request?
[20:51] <hallyn> no
[20:51] <Daviey> RoyK: It's a RC, intent for 2.0 in final trusty.
[20:51] <Daviey> hallyn: Oh, you responded! :)
[20:52] <hallyn> then yes :)
[20:53] <hallyn> RoyK: biggest advantage would be that we wouldn't have 200 patches for aarch64 linux-user.  cleaner tree.
[20:53] <hallyn> that's why i'll do it in ppa for first rc's - i don't want to commit to it yet, but it would be nice if it works out
[20:58] <RoyK> hallyn: anything really new in the amd64 way?
[20:58] <hallyn> RoyK: I don't think so.
[20:58] <hallyn> now, I may drop the linaro omap3 patches
[20:58] <hallyn> if this bothers anyone, please shout
[20:58] <hallyn> (i'll probably blog that in the hopes of letting anyone who wants to complain)
[21:09] <Daviey> hallyn: If you are in doubt, make a qemu-next PPA under ~ubuntu-virt ?
[21:16] <hallyn> Daviey: yeah i might do that.  The main reason would be the same reason that I'm  not using the archive immediately -
[21:16] <hallyn> sometime two years down the road we might want a qemu 1.7 version in that ppa
[21:29] <hallyn> Daviey: eh, there are already a 'candidate' ppa and a 'daily-build' ppa, both of which would work for this.  I'll use the candidate ppa.
[21:36] <arosales> hbaum: hello
[21:46] <Daviey> hallyn: good thinking.
[23:06] <Proto_X> hello
[23:06] <Proto_X> i was wondering before i download server iso
[23:06] <Proto_X> is it complicated to make a bootable pxe host off it, so just nic boot and its in linux
[23:07] <Proto_X> i think that would be pretty awesome just pxe-boot and got xbmc mediaplayer going windows free better then dual boot hdd use
[23:08] <Proto_X> i know with windows 2008 server pxe just put it in windows pe mode to image install
[23:08] <sarnold> Proto_X: this looks sane enough: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[23:09] <Proto_X> is that the client or the server
[23:10] <sarnold> likely both?
[23:10] <Proto_X> input that many commands on client all time pain in ballz
[23:11] <Proto_X> looks like pxe has awesome potential but got tossed over shoulder faster then xbox orgional
[23:11] <sarnold> Proto_X: hah, far from it, pxe is used all the time
[23:11] <Proto_X> word :D
[23:11] <sarnold> Proto_X: the maas project for example makes it easy to have a room of a few thousand machines, IPMI to turn a machine one, PXE boot the thing, and then juju can assign it a task. once it's not needed any more, IPMI turn the thing off.
[23:12] <Proto_X> no it doesnt seem too bad the page isnt 1000 pages
[23:12] <Proto_X> i want pxe to do more then install tho
[23:13] <sarnold> yeah, that should be doable
[23:13] <Proto_X> must be still emulating floppys to start
[23:13] <Proto_X> 1.44mb limit sux on ancient pxe
[23:13] <Proto_X> maybe ubuntu is cooler :)
[23:14] <sarnold> depends upon your NIC
[23:14] <Proto_X> windows is always pain in balls
[23:14] <sarnold> Proto_X: maybe if your NIC is annoying you can use ipxe: http://ipxe.org/ (I haven't tried re[placing ROM, just using ipxe in emulators..)
[23:14] <Proto_X> mostly microsoft just makes icons bigger and bigger hiding the real commands
[23:15] <Proto_X> my nic's support it better then vmware
[23:15] <Proto_X> if it works in vmware then its already mint
[23:15] <Proto_X> lol
[23:16] <Proto_X> alright you guys rock :)
[23:17] <Proto_X> setting up pxe in windows server pages went on and on forever, ubuntu was like 3 pages must be better built for it
[23:17] <Proto_X> i might be able make cool stuffz do stuffz :D
[23:17] <Proto_X> thats so awesome
[23:17] <sarnold> modular pieces that you can connect together as you wish is pretty awesome design :)
[23:18] <Proto_X> does all ubuntu versions do it or is server best built for it
[23:18] <Proto_X> the hosting part
[23:19] <Proto_X> i need more frames per second, all microsoft does is make spinny smiley face icons use 100% cpu 100cores
[23:19] <Proto_X> the icons that deleted xbox live server lol
[23:21] <Proto_X> ea games too no more multiplayer
[23:21] <Proto_X> unless your like madden 2014!!! all day fanboy
[23:22] <Proto_X> bad ass performance and can do stuff ubuntu i like it :D
[23:22] <Proto_X> alright ill check it out thank you for infoz
[23:23] <sarnold> Proto_X: ubuntu server and desktop are nearly identical
[23:25] <Daviey> sarnold: it's common to chainload iPXE from on-nic PXE client, rather than burning it into the nic.
[23:27] <sarnold> Daviey: oh! nice.
[23:27] <sarnold> Daviey: I suspect that'll get most of the benefits of using ipxe without the risk of shredding your nic's warranty :)
[23:28] <Daviey> sarnold: Yeah, I murmured about doing the burning on my old thinkpad.. didn't.. then it died.  One day i'll be main enough to do it on a prod box. :)
[23:29] <sarnold> Daviey: haha :)
[23:50] <rushed> preparing to upgrade a 1u db server with low write volume & moderate read volume, any links or recommended reading on ssd options? was hoping to make the jump this round, but the poweredge options seem higher then I would have guessed