[20:55] <zs1otb_> hi, I have a problem with my 10.04. There is no video but there is audio on totem movie player and vlc. I have tried all suggestions up to now but still there is no video... any ideas
[20:55] <maco> frxstrem: er, ssh not sshd
[20:55] <jrib> frxstrem: sudo service ssh stop
[20:55] <frxstrem> maco: I'll try that
[20:55] <soundworks> anyone know howto create a livecd without autologin using debootstrap?
[20:56] <sasquatch1> dajhorn: Will I have to uninstall Nouveau driver or will Ubuntu autoselect the nvidia driver for use?
[20:56] <Nickolas> ~x~ Greetings. I need some help if anyone is available.
[20:56] <jrib> !ask | Nickolas
[20:56] <frxstrem> maco, jrib: thanks :D
[20:56] <Nickolas> Ubuntu 10.4. Sony Bravia 32" monitor. "Clear" bar scrolling from top to bottom. Looks to be a DPI issue but I can not set the DPI in Ubuntu 10.4 because it appears to be locked. Help if you can please. Thank you.
[20:56] <campbellgolf> for an SSH server, how do I lock down all of the users to share one directory for SFTP share?
[20:56] <dajhorn> sasquatch1:   Install the proprietary nvidia driver and reboot.  You should get a prompt (by the jockey program) asking you whether to use the new driver.   Don't touch the nouveau stuff.
[20:57] <Nickolas> DPI issue? Ubuntu 10.4. Sony Bravia 32" monitor. "Clear" bar scrolling from top to bottom. Looks to be a DPI issue but I can not set the DPI in Ubuntu 10.4 because it appears to be locked. Help if you can please. Thank you.
[20:57] <sasquatch1> dajhorn: Ok great. Thank you. Much appreciated.
[20:57] <maco> Nickolas: xrandr --dpi 96
[20:57] <dajhorn> sasquatch1:  Welcome.
[20:57] <maco> Nickolas: whats that say?
[20:57] <tim__> hello. I have a belkin G wireless router [model number if needed] I want to make into a wireless repeater. I have DSL connected to a 2wire. Does any one know how I can achieve this? The dd-wrt firmware is not compatible with this belkin router.
[20:58] <Nickolas> Xrandr - Not sure what you are asking me
[20:58] <zs1otb_> I have a problem with my upgraded 10.04. There is no video but there is audio on totem movie player and vlc for all formats. I have tried all suggestions up to now but still there is no video... any ideas
[20:58] <maco> Nickolas: xrandr is a command
[20:58] <jrib> tim__: not really an ubuntu question
[20:58] <Nickolas> ??
[20:58] <mattyh88> how do i change default MTA?
[20:58] <maco> Nickolas: in a terminal, if you type "xrandr --dpi 96" what is the output?
[20:58] <brontoeee> zs1otb_, what have you try?
[20:59] <tim__> jrib, direct my questions to?
[20:59] <dajhorn> mattyh88:  Just install the one that you want.   The MTAs in Ubuntu usually conflict with each other.
[20:59] <Nickolas> BRB..looking
[20:59] <ZykoticK9> zs1otb_, run "gstreamer-properties" and on the Video tab / for Default Output - Plugin, select the "X Window System (No Xv)" dropdown
I have instal;led all the lib' suggested, I have even uninstalled all video related progs and then installed all of them..
[20:59] <mattyh88> dajhorn: exim4 and sendmail are both installed
[20:59] <mattyh88> dajhorn: (with my new installation)
[21:00] <Nickolas>    1360x768       60.0 +
[21:00] <Nickolas>    1280x768       59.9*
[21:00] <Nickolas>    1024x768       75.1     70.1     60.0
[21:00] <Nickolas>    800x600        75.0     60.3
[21:00] <Nickolas>    640x480        75.0     60.0     59.9
[21:00] <FloodBot2> Nickolas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:00] <Nickolas>    720x400        70.1
[21:00] <jrib> tim__: belkin customer support if you can't use custom firmware like ddwrt or some other custom firmware
[21:00] <Nickolas> ?
[21:00] <dajhorn> mattyh88: Hmmm...  You should prefer exim4, because it is in 'main' and will get security updates.
[21:00] <Nickolas> Am I still on?
[21:01] <Nickolas> Y or N
[21:01] <ZykoticK9> Nickolas, yes we read you
[21:01] <Nickolas> TY
[21:01] <Nickolas> So how do I change the DPI in Ubuntu 10.4?
[21:01] <mattyh88> dajhorn: well, i haven't got much of a choise i think, as bugzilla only supports smpt/sendmail
[21:02] <dajhorn> mattyh88:  Every MTA that I've used provides a /usr/sbin/sendmail work-alike.  Let me check something...
[21:03] <Nickolas> There is a bar scrolling from bottom to top of screen in UBUNTU 10.4
[21:03] <Nickolas> How do I fix it
[21:03] <Nickolas> ?
[21:03] <dajhorn> mattyh88: The bugzilla package in Ubuntu has this dependency:  exim4 |  mail-transport-agent
[21:03] <dajhorn> mattyh88:   exim4 should therefore be compatible.
[21:04] <jan-olof> disconnect
[21:04] <Jovaro> I am trying to copy a large movie from my camera to the computer (1.8 gig) but I keep getting : Error getting file. Does anyone know what causes that?
[21:04] <mattyh88> dajhorn: ah okay, but i fired up the interface to reconfigure exim4
[21:04] <campbellgolf> Ubuntu Server SSH question: How can I set up SSH / SFTP for different users and lock them into a specific directory tree?
 tried that no go
[21:04] <ZykoticK9> zs1otb_, don't know then.  good luck.
[21:05] <ZykoticK9> zs1otb_, do you have mplayer installed?
[21:05] <mattyh88> dajhorn: now i get an error remote_smtp_smarthost defer (111) connection refused
[21:05] <mattyh88> dajhorn: when sending mails that is from bugzilla
[21:06] <Nickolas> There is a bar scrolling from bottom to top of my screen. Not a solid bar. Transparent. How do I fix this?
[21:06] <dajhorn> campbellgolf: Look at the ChrootDirectory option in the sshd_config man page.
[21:06] <SliMM> for some reason, on the live version of ubuntu 10.10, everything on the screen freezes after a few seconds of not moving the mouse
yes
[21:06] <campbellgolf> dajhorn roger that
[21:07] <SliMM> Any idea why? It's pretty annoying to watch a movie while moving the mouse constantly
[21:07] <dajhorn> mattyh88: You'll need to provide more information.  If you didn't reboot, then exim probably isn't listening on port 25, or is listening on just <IP_ADDRESS>:25
[21:07] <ZykoticK9> zs1otb_, try "mplayer -vo gl VIDEO_FILE.FOO" and see if you get output - then try these other vo options: xv x11 - do any of those 3 work?
[21:08] <mattyh88> dajhorn: yes i think i've only put <IP_ADDRESS>:25
[21:08] <mattyh88> dajhorn: didn't realy get that whole config process of exim4
[21:08] <KM0201> Nickolas: what do you mean a 'bar scrolling'
[21:08] <mattyh88> dajhorn: like what do i need to fill in @ 'system mail name'
[21:09] <Nickolas> dajhorn--is he screen saver on?
[21:09] <kavelot> I'm trying to use ubuntu without a mouse... how to I open the desktop menu? (ctrl-ESC on windows)
[21:09] <dajhorn> mattyh88: Dunno.  This depends on your configuration, like whether you have a real external IP address, and who the MTA is forwarding to.
[21:10] <dajhorn> mattyh88:   I would first relax the localhost restriction, and check whether it works.
[21:10] <Nickolas> KM0201 - it seems to be a dpi issue
[21:10] <mattyh88> dajhorn: localhost restriction? only mailing options locally you mean?
[21:11] <ZykoticK9> Nickolas, DPI = Dots Per Inch, that vertical scrolling line sounds like a refresh rate issue - are you using a CRT or a LCD (LCD shouldn't have that issue i believe)
[21:11] <dajhorn> mattyh88: Right now, your exim installation is probably listening on port 25 only on localhost.  If bugzilla is trying to use the default interface, then you need to configure exim to listen everywhere.  ie:  <IP_ADDRESS>:25  (I don't remember the option, you'll need to read the setup docs.)
[21:12] <Nickolas> lcd
[21:12] <shadaloo> wine: /home/shadaloo/.wine is not owned by you
[21:12] <shadaloo> guys
[21:12] <ZykoticK9> Nickolas, ummm, sorry i have no suggestions then.
[21:12] <shadaloo> wtf is this?
I tried to run what you said in terminal and it says File not found: 'VIDEO_FILE.FOO' Sorry if I'm stupid but is it correct what I did
[21:12] <shadaloo> I'm trying to run wine as rooot
[21:12] <Nickolas> oh man
[21:12] <FloodBot2> shadaloo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:12] <shadaloo> FloodBot2: stfu newb
[21:13] <ZykoticK9> zs1otb_, "VIDEO_FILE.FOO" needs to be replaced by one of your actual video files (you'll need to be in the same directory as well)
[21:13] <e01> how can i get /dev/dsp in 10.10
 sorry blonde moment
[21:13] <zimple1> hi
[21:14] <naiad> I'm wondering if anyone here uses deadbeef ( media player ) and if they do are you able to drag and drop files from asamba share into it?
[21:15] <shadaloo> wine: /home/shadaloo/.wine is not owned by you
[21:15] <shadaloo> solution?
[21:15] <shadaloo> I'm running as root
[21:15] <shadaloo> wtf
[21:15] <ZykoticK9> !language | shadaloo
[21:15] <shadaloo> god you guys suck
[21:16] <ZykoticK9> !ops | shadaloo
[21:16] <shadaloo> ZykoticK9: die in a fire faggot
[21:16] <vzwguyjay> afternoon all
[21:16] <vzwguyjay> hope i can please get some help
[21:16] <shookees> test
[21:16] <vzwguyjay> do i just ask the room?
[21:16] <dajhorn> !justask vzwguyjay
[21:16] <ZykoticK9> !ask yes | vzwguyjay
[21:16] <wrd> !enter | vzwguyjay
[21:17] <vzwguyjay> okay
[21:17] <wrd> !ask | vzwguyjay
[21:17] <inaety> Is anyone here familiar with the ubuntu one mobile music service
[21:18] <vzwguyjay> okay i am trying to install something on a host and i get an error that states somewhere along the lines of cannot commit to /etc and then it says something about hg
[21:18] <ZykoticK9> inaety, your probably best asking in #ubuntuone channel
[21:18] <inaety> thanks ZykoticK9
[21:18] <wrd> vzwguyjay: what is that something? hg is probably mercurial ...
[21:19] <vzwguyjay> yes it is in relation to mercurial
[21:19] <lolcat> hello, why is upstart so scary?
[21:19] <vzwguyjay> can i fix it automatically?
[21:19] <n0a1ias> anyone wanna help me set up a VMware of windows 7?
[21:19] <ikonia> n0a1ias: try ##windows
[21:19] <n0a1ias> im on ubuntu
[21:19] <ikonia> n0a1ias: try ##wmware
[21:19] <ikonia> oops
[21:19] <ikonia>  #vmare
[21:20] <ikonia> #vmware
[21:20] <vzwguyjay> so can i fix that automatically?
[21:20] <n0a1ias> ok thanks, but is there an alternative to VMware? i hate pirating software
[21:20] <ZykoticK9> n0a1ias, virtualbox
[21:20] <ikonia> n0a1ias: vmware isn't pirate, just buy a license
[21:21] <ikonia> n0a1ias: you asked for help with vmware
[21:21] <vzwguyjay> i notice in lucid that alot of things are completed automatically
[21:21] <n0a1ias> ok
[21:22] <vzwguyjay> any suggestions?
x11 worked
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> zs1otb_, what video card are you using?
[21:24] <zs1otb_> good question it is a Fujitsu Laptop.. stand by let me check
[21:24] <ZykoticK9> zs1otb_, "lspci | grep -i vga" from terminal will tell you.
[21:26] <zs1otb_> ZykoticK9>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN400/PM800/PM880/PN800/PN880 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 02)
[21:26] <atpa8a> hello
[21:26] <ZykoticK9> zs1otb_, I'd try opening "gstreamer-properties" and on the Video tab try - X Windows System (X11...) -- sorry I have no experience with VIA video stuff.  best of luck.
[21:27] <leomast247> anyone know how to download mp3s and put them on my music library in rythmbox?
[21:27] <zs1otb_> ZykoticK9>thanks
[21:27] <lickalott> is anyone familiar with virtualbox?
[21:28] <ZykoticK9> leomast247, the downloading part is OT for this channel.  But Rhythmbox is set to look in a directory for it's music library, simply put the mp3s in that directory.
[21:28] <guampa> lickalott: watcha wanna know?
[21:28] <lickalott> I'm running 10.10 inside VB and can't for the life of me figure out how to mount my host hardrive
[21:28] <leomast247> ok cool thanks :)
[21:28] <leomast247> where can i talk about the topic?
[21:28] <wrd> lickalott: why would you *want* to do that?
[21:28] <lickalott> sda - no sda1 - no sda2 - no sda5 - no
[21:29] <guampa> lickalott: you wont see host drives/partitions inside a guest
[21:29] <lickalott> so I have to use the "storage" tab only?
[21:29] <ZykoticK9> lickalott, research "shared directories" i think it's called - never used it myself.
[21:30] <jumba> what do i do when i get an Installation Step Failed?
[21:30] <guampa> all you'll be able to see is the virtual drives/partitions, yes, defined in that tab
[21:30] <lickalott> kk
[21:30] <lickalott> tks
[21:30] <atpa8a> i some lines to sysctl.conf but after reboot they don't seem to be executed... any idea?
[21:30] <lickalott> basically if everything works okay (win apps ported over to debian) i will likely swap OS's
[21:31] <lickalott> VB is my trial run before I go full on
[21:31] <ZykoticK9> lickalott, do you play many games?  If so, then you'll probably be disappointed.
[21:32] <ZykoticK9> lickalott, you might consider a dual boot if above is true.
[21:32] <guampa> or if you use Proppellerheads Reason :'(
[21:33] <leomast247> how come when i play music in rythmbox i dont hear anything...and yes volume is on
[21:33] <mikva> I have a 32bit system that I want to use 4gb of ram with.  I have checked my CPU flags, and the processor does have support for the PAE extention, 'uname -a' indicates that I have the pae kernel running, yet my system still indicates only 3.1gb of ram being utilized.  Is there anywhere I can go from here?
[21:34] <campbellgolf> dajhorn  that was helpful, it lead me to this which is exactly what I was looking for.  http://wiki.lapipaplena.org/index.php/How_to_mount_SFTP_accesses
[21:35] <guampa> mikva: perhaps the remaining ram is used by an onboard video card?
[21:36] <GeekSquid> mikva: is your ram shared with video?
[21:36] <ZykoticK9> mikva, i consider PAE a "hack".  It does allow the system to use more then 4GB of memory, but each program is still limited to the 3.XGB - if you open a bunch of memory intensive programs does it go beyond 3.1?
[21:36] <guampa> those shared ram types
[21:36] <kavelot> are there some "windows like" firewall for linux (ie, "program X is trying to connect to Y. allow?" baloon)?
[21:36] <mikva> guampa, I doubt the video card is using almost a full GB of shared ram, but I'll check
[21:36] <jumba> what do i do when i get an Installation Step Failed?
[21:37] <guampa> mikva: mine does
[21:38] <mikva> guampa, what's a good way to find the video ram usage?
[21:38] <guampa> mikva: hmm lemme see
[21:38] <mikva> ZykoticK9, is what you're saying that each program cannot address more than 3gb in it's own process but something like process A: 2gb and process B: 2gb would use up the 4gb?
[21:39] <niko> .12
[21:39] <ZykoticK9> mikva, correct - combined it can use the 4GB
[21:40] <mikva> ZykoticK9, that's interesting.  You wouldn't happen to know if virtualbox has seperate address space for each VM concurrently running?  I guess I should just check once I get my situation fixed.
[21:40] <guampa> mikva: this one's great http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-find-linux-vga-video-card-ram/
[21:41] <ZykoticK9> mikva, certainly using multiple VBox instances (on my 64bit machine) I can use all my memory
[21:41] <bikerich> Hello all... my first time using irc chat .is there a beginner's place to go?
[21:42] <jumba> what do you usually choose as a System mail name>
[21:42] <mikva> ZykoticK9, yes, but you're using 64bit.  I'm wondering if PAE would limit that if virtualbox uses RAM all within one thread or process or whatever limits the 32bit address space
[21:42] <jumba> what do you usually choose as a System mail name>
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> mikva, that i don't know - it probably does... sorry.
[21:43] <bikerich> merry christmas to all, and to all a goodnight
[21:43] <mikva> ZykoticK9, that's ok.  It's something that I should just check for myself :)
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> guampa, thank - I've looked for the video information before - and you just found me my answer :)
[21:44] <leomast247> hello i have downloaded a game app for ubuntu and have ran the downloading process and got a folder what should i do now?
[21:44] <l33tUbunuhaxor> any l33t haxors here
[21:44] <guampa> ZykoticK9: glad to help, that method was a good find for me too ;)
[21:44] <ikonia> l33tUbunuhaxor: do you have a support question in regard to ubuntu ?
[21:45] <mikeliss> Is there a simple way to tell a booting machine not to resume from a disk image?
[21:45] <l33tUbunuhaxor> why arent there codecs on ubuntu  like on mint?
[21:46] <coz_> l33tUbunuhaxor,  not sure what mint does to get around the licensing
[21:46] <mikva> guampa, my video card is only using 256mb of ram, so I dont think 4gb -> 3.1 gb is explainable by shared video ram
[21:46] <ikonia> l33tUbunuhaxor:there are, you just install them
[21:46] <leomast247>  hello i have downloaded a game app for ubuntu and have ran the downloading process and got a folder what should i do now?
[21:46] <ikonia> !codecs| l33tUbunuhaxor
[21:46] <guampa> mikeliss: are you using an OS under two diff exec environments?
[21:46] <ikonia> leomast247: what do the install instructions tell y ou to do
[21:46] <jumba> what do you usually choose as a System mail name>
[21:47] <mikeliss> guampa, what do you mean exec environment?
[21:47] <l33tUbunuhaxor> thanks
[21:47] <guampa> mikeliss: like "native" and "virtualized"
[21:47] <leomast247> i just did the download command in terminal and it got it as a folder
[21:47] <ikonia> leomast247: ok, so what do the install instructions tell you to do
[21:48] <mikeliss> guampa, No, it's a fairly normal machine, except that the resume image seems to be corrupted, and every time I boot, it tries to use that image.
[21:48] <maxo> Any idea what the following means? (it's in /var/log/messages) :   kernel: [46695.316289] words[14675]: segfault at bf534ff0 ip 08048bf3 sp bf534ff0 error 6 in words[8048000+1000]
[21:48] <mikeliss> guampa, The other problem is that the disk is encrypted, but I think that's the cause of the problem, not the solution.
[21:48] <leomast247> idk what instructions ur talking about
[21:48] <ikonia> leomast247: the ones either on the website you got it from, or from the developers who made it, or within the pacakge
[21:49] <xim_> will the driver to my sata card which is made for suse or the other for redhat work in my ubuntu 10.4 machine?
[21:49] <leomast247> there is just a folder in my downloads folder called alienarena-7.50
[21:49] <l33tUbunuhaxor> what is the most ubuntu way to get an apache server running on ubuntu? im trying to download XAMPP but afrihost is full of shit got a 8kb/s download
[21:49] <max_sharpe> hey i have a question is telnet or ssh automatically installed in a standard ubuntu desktop install?
[21:49] <maxo> ah sorry actually got it
[21:50] <ikonia> leomast247: read the website you got it from, it should have instructions or a contact information from the makers you can ask for instructions, or look in the folder fo instructions
[21:50] <guampa> mikeliss: never faced that prob, trying to find some info ..
[21:50] <ikonia> l33tUbunuhaxor: use lamp, not xampp as xammp is a self contained platform that is not supported
[21:50] <GeekSquid> max_sharpe: neither, install openssh-server if you want ssh access , whereas telnet is very unsecure and should not be used
[21:50] <maxo> max_sharpe, pretty sure ssh isn't
[21:50] <max_sharpe> Okay.
[21:50] <mikeliss> guampa, awesome. I tried too, but didn't find anything using error messages...I'm trying the grub IRC channel too, but so far only silence there.
[21:51] <max_sharpe> but anyof them inst installed by default right?
[21:51] <GeekSquid> l33tUbunuhaxor: install apache2 or lamp-server
[21:51] <guampa> mikeliss: is the system able to boot?
[21:51] <l33tUbunuhaxor> k? what is the closest thing to Usbwebserver on windows? i used that for some php dev and worked really easy
[21:51] <ikonia> l33tUbunuhaxor: apache
[21:51] <delac> Huawei E1552 works quite well in Maveric except that the stick is never recognized on boot and needs to be re-inserted for it to work. Does anyone know how to make it work without re-insertion?
[21:52] <leomast247> kk found it thanks
[21:52] <l33tUbunuhaxor> usbwebserver is apche with mysql and php admin gui interface
[21:52] <mikeliss> guampa, Nope, that's the problem. I press the power button, it asks for my password for the encrypted disk, I put it in, then it tries to resume from the disk image.
[21:52] <ikonia> l33tUbunuhaxor: apache/mysql/php and then use what ever gui's you want
[21:52] <l33tUbunuhaxor> my name is just for trolling mint channel btw hahah
[21:52] <FineLine23x> drop
[21:53] <ubuntu> hi kukuruzo
[21:53] <ikonia> l33tUbunuhaxor: no one is interested in your name
[21:53] <mikeliss> guampa, After that, it gives me an error, "The system snapshot image could not be read." The error goes on, but eventually asks, "Do you want to continue boot?" To which I answer Y, which does nothing, I'm guessing because it's frozen at that point.
[21:53] <l33tUbunuhaxor> ok so if i dont use any gui and just pure apache where would the apache root b?
[21:53] <ubuntu> народ ктонить курит марихуану
[21:53] <l33tUbunuhaxor> ikonia:Ur name is boring
[21:53] <ikonia> l33tUbunuhaxor: look in the apache config, it will tell you where the "DocumentRoot" is
[21:53] <ikonia> !ru | ubuntu
[21:54] <ikonia> l33tUbunuhaxor: I'm interested in support discussion only in this channel, nothing more please.
[21:54] <ubuntu> спасибо (sorry)
[21:54] <l33tUbunuhaxor> Ikonia: what is someone like you doing in this channel..with ur brains u should be in Gentoo or arch linux support channel
[21:55] <mongy> lol
[21:55] <guampa> ...
[21:55] <ikonia> l33tUbunuhaxor: I'll say it one more time, I'm interested in support discussion in this channel only, nothing more
[21:55] <jumba> does anyone know about Apparmor?
[21:55] <l33tUbunuhaxor> ryt
[21:56] <mongy> l33tUbunuhaxor, he's ours and we're keeping him
[21:56] <MLHickey> can you use IMAP in evolution instead of pop?
[21:56] <jumba> does anyone know about Apparmor?
[21:56] <itaylor57> MLHickey: yes
[21:56] <l33tUbunuhaxor> lol hes pretty good id get frustrated if i was him
[21:56] <MLHickey> for a gmail account
[21:56] <l33tUbunuhaxor> peace out
[21:57] <mongy> MLHickey, yes
[21:57] <MLHickey> ok thanks, all these set up tutorials are using POP
[21:57] <mongy> MLHickey, in fact, you get all your folders sync`d,..
[21:58] <mongy> MLHickey, if you want a simpler, push method, try gm-notify
[21:58] <guampa> mikeliss: this may be something to try shttp://www.mattcutts.com/blog/ubuntu-freeze-no-resume-image/
[21:58] <xim_> will the driver to my sata card which is made for suse or the other for redhat work in my ubuntu 10.4 machine?
[21:58] <nibbler_> jumba, i know about apparmor, but i assume that is not the answer you were looking for.
[21:59] <nibbler_> xim_, if the driver is not in the kernel, but you have to download an rpm for suse/rh and there is not rpm for ubuntu, than it at least wont work out of the box
[21:59] <MLHickey> mongy, is that in the package manager?
[22:00] <mongy> MLHickey, yes.  its not an email client, its just a notifier..which takes you, when you click it, to gmail page
[22:00] <MLHickey> yea, i guess that's simpler and it's push
[22:01] <mongy> MLHickey, I only mention it because email isnt a huge part of my life.. and this is enough.
[22:01] <mikeliss> guampa, hmm...can't get the recovery mode to work, so that's a non-starter, unfortunately.
[22:01] <jumba> during set up
[22:01] <jumba> its asking me for directorys space delimited.
[22:01] <MLHickey> same for me mongy, just a simple notification would be fine
[22:02] <vzwguyjay> im having an issue with something that states mercurial
[22:02] <mongy> MLHickey,  well thats the ticket.  There are others but they require delay between checks
[22:02] <vzwguyjay> how do i fix it?
[22:02] <itaylor57> MLHickey: and setting up gmail in evolution is a pain
[22:02] <MLHickey> that's what it seemed like haha
[22:02] <max_sharpe> another simple question
[22:03] <max_sharpe> how to change your root password if you don't know it
[22:03] <area51pilot> gmail works just fine in Evolution
[22:03] <area51pilot> :P
[22:03] <mongy> MLHickey, in evolution,,, even if you try to do pop, it sets imap... well ironically, imap works better
[22:03] <zmitya> hi Gents
[22:03] <ZykoticK9> !root | max_sharpe
[22:03] <Sweetums> max_sharpe: you'll have to boot into a rescue environment
[22:03] <zmitya> I have a 64bit server (lucid)
[22:03] <zmitya> when I run ldd, it says "not a dynamic executable" .. why ?
[22:03] <guampa> mikeliss: did the recovery option show up in the menu when pressing ESC? did it fail?
[22:03] <zmitya> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/314037/
[22:03] <max_sharpe> Ohhhh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[22:03] <max_sharpe> okay ill google that
[22:03] <max_sharpe> hold on
[22:04] <max_sharpe> i forget about that featureeeeeeee
[22:04] <mikeliss> guampa, yeah, the recovery option shows up, but does the same thing as the non-recovery option.
[22:04] <Sweetums> max_sharpe: Oh that works too if you're using 'sudo'. If you can use sudo and want to set a root PW for some reason, you would do 'sudo su -' to switch to root shell and can then use the standard 'passwd' command. That's not the "Ubuntu way" though :)
[22:04] <daniel_tree> I had installed gnome-elegant and now I installed orta theme..and I dont know how to set nautilus theme to be elementary ...any suggestions ??
[22:04] <max_sharpe> Okay thanks
[22:04] <leomast247> hello i am installing a game known as alien arena (for ubuntu) from their site. I have already unpacked the file and got a folder in the downloads folder. I then followed the insttructions which told me to change to the alien arena directory and type in the command ./configure but i just get an error
[22:04] <ZykoticK9> Sweetums, max_sharpe don't use "sudo su -"!  if you NEED too use "sudo -i"
[22:05] <daniel_tree> I want to get rid of the text below back forward up arrows...in nautilus
[22:05] <vzwguyjay> or if it has to do with permissions is there a way to set grant all to all permissions?
[22:05] <langvann_> d
[22:05] <Sweetums> ZykoticK9: That can be really annoying if I have to do tons of things as root. Thanks but I'm a big boy - I can handle 'root'. I'm not scared :)
[22:05] <guampa> mikeliss: get to the grub menu again and select recovery mode, but instead of enter press "e"
[22:05] <wrd> leomast247: you're probably missing dependencies , libraries or header files
[22:06] <Sweetums> Anyone have ldapscripts running without issue? I can authenticate using the standard LDAP command-line tools and ldapscripts seems to be configured correctly, but the log says it's not providing the right credentials
[22:06] <leomast247> how do i get them
[22:06] <mikeliss> guampa, yeah, that's where I'm at now...I just tried the noresume option, but that didn't work either.
[22:06] <horrible> Sweetums: try "sudo -s". it lets you do tons of things with root priviligies, without having to log in as root.
[22:06] <leomast247> wrd: it checks for all these different things and says no
[22:06] <nibbler_> leomast247, read the output of configure carefully, its all there. and no, it is not easy.
[22:06] <xim_> nibbler_, ok thanks.  im going to have to recompile the kernel i guess.  will i have to do that for all my drivers every time i update the kernel?
[22:07] <Sweetums> horrible: That still requires me to run 'sudo' each and every time though, no?
[22:07] <xim_> sweetums, sudo su
[22:07] <horrible> Sweetums: no
[22:07] <pravin> is it possible to have this "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kubuntu-9.04-DesktopEffects.png" type of visual effect in ubuntu
[22:07] <Dakine58> Having an issue after I install Ubuntu. Screenshot: http://tinypic.com/r/fvwjdc/7
[22:07] <Sweetums> xim_: Yes I know - *I* was the one that suggested that initialyl :)
[22:07] <OrangePeel> Using Brasero ... Data DVD, it puts the files on the disk but right before it starts actually copying the data(burning) ... it says
[22:07] <zmitya> guys, when I run ldd, it says "not a dynamic executable" .. why ? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/314037/
[22:07] <OrangePeel> Unable to mount Data disc (03 Jan 11)
[22:07] <OrangePeel> Error mounting: mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[22:07] <OrangePeel> mount: /dev/sr0 already mounted or /media/Data disc (03 Jan 11) busy
[22:07] <nibbler_> xim_, well, if the driver is open source and well, then it is in the default kernel. just boot your harware from ubuntu life-cd and see if the hardware works
[22:07] <FloodBot2> OrangePeel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:07] <xim_> Sweetums, sorry didnt scroll up
[22:07] <horrible> xim_: "sudo -s" achieves the same thing, but is better than "sudo su"
[22:07] <Sweetums> horrible: See the problem is - 'sudo' != Replacement for sensibility
[22:07] <Sweetums> xim_: No wories, this thing goes FAST :)
[22:08] <max_sharpe> okay maybe this will stump you all i don't remember my user password for ubuntu is there a way to let me change it with out reinstalling?
[22:08] <horrible> Sweetums: well are you asking for support or are you here to complain about the ubuntu design choices
[22:08] <wrd> leomast247: read the requirements sections of your game, and try to figure out which packets are actually missing. install the -dev versions of these libraries and then configure shall not fail.
[22:08] <guampa> mikeliss: if this doesn't work you'll need a livecd then, boot and restore the system from it
[22:08] <nibbler_> leomast247, use nopaste, dont PM others
[22:08] <GeekSquid> !ccsm | pravin
[22:08] <horrible> Sweetums: i might remind you that none of us here has any part in designing or coding ubuntu
[22:08] <ZykoticK9> !password | max_sharpe
[22:08] <Sweetums> horrible: not complaing about design choices at all. Sorry if that was implied. I'm simply saying 'sudo rm -rf /' isn't going to save you over 'sudo su - ; rm -rf /'
[22:09] <xim_> nibbler_, the driver is open source, its on the manufacturers website, your saying its probably already in the kernel? it was open source back during edgy time
[22:09] <dajhorn> zmitya:   Run `file mysqld` to get more information.   You're running a local copy of MySQL, not the Ubuntu package, so you're asking for help in the wrong place.
[22:09] <n0a1ias> hey, ive got something thats locking my root, is that maybe a virus?
[22:09] <n0a1ias> no matter how rare?
[22:09] <GeekSquid> !root | n0a1ias
[22:09] <Koopa516> g7
[22:09] <nibbler_> xim_, well, you need to find out - anyway, kernel-recompile wont be needed anyway, as its enough to compile a module. just find out if it is included in the standard kernel of ubuntu, easiest way is to boot a cd....
[22:09] <zmitya> dajhorn: please see my post: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/314037/
[22:10] <n0a1ias> thats not at all what im talking about, GeekSquid
[22:10] <max_sharpe> thanks!!!
[22:10] <n0a1ias> im talking about sudo
[22:10] <horrible> Sweetums: there are other advantages of sudo. such as not having the different administrators share the same password.
[22:10] <dajhorn> zmitya:   What are you expecting to see that you aren't getting?
[22:10] <media> hello ! I have to configure alsa to swap some channels to get surround working. Do you know where I can find a good introduction to alsa ?
[22:10] <Sweetums> horrible: Agreed.  I'm pro sudo.
[22:10] <leomast247> nibbler_: ok sorry
[22:11] <mikeliss> guampa, Ugh...if I had a dollar for every time this system made me do something like that just to boot, I'd be a somewhat richer person.
[22:11] <guampa> hehehe
[22:11] <GeekSquid> n0a1ias: I don't care how possible you think a virus is... I haven't actually seen one effect a linux machine yet, and when it does happen I expect it to come to the top of google news
[22:11] <n0a1ias> guys, somethings locking my root open right now, all i have open is this xchat
[22:11] <horrible> Sweetums: well still, i recommend using "sudo -s" over "sudo su"
[22:12] <zmitya> dajhorn: well, I was curious for the linked libs maybe ?
[22:12] <mikeliss> guampa, if I do the liveCD route, do you know how to manually delete the disk image?
[22:12] <guampa> mikeliss: i'd be a millonaire too if got paid for every OS lock up / destruction i did
[22:12] <zmitya> dajhorn: but I forgot this parameter: --with-mysqld-ldflags=-all-static
[22:12] <xim_> nibbler_, i feel like i could really waste days and days and days of my time if i dont start out in the right direction, how would i know on a boot cd if it was working or not.  its a sata card.  when it boots it actually says no bios found (for the sata controller) and then doesnt detect my two drives plugged in.  maybe the driver is already fine and this is another problem?
[22:12] <zmitya> dajhorn: so it is *really* not a dyn linked app
[22:12] <Sweetums> horrible: To each his own. For those not familiar with sudo or system administration in general, I'd agree with you. I still prefer using 'sudo su -' if I'm going to be doing heavy lifting. But I'm not in any way suggesting that is the right thing to do (nor am I saying it's the wrong thing - it just is).
[22:12] <zmitya> dajhorn: thanks anyway
[22:12] <dajhorn> zmitya:  Yup.
[22:13] <guampa> mikeliss: i can help you in doing what the link above mentions, which is simply recreating the swap partition
[22:13] <ZykoticK9> !wfm | Sweetums
[22:13] <horrible> Sweetums: what "heavy lifting" can you do with "sudo su -" that is harder to do with "sudo -s"
[22:13] <wfsd> !osdfkas
[22:13] <horrible> Sweetums: they are used in *exactly* the same way
[22:13] <nibbler_> xim_, sounds like a driver problem. well, its a problem at least which might stop you from using ubuntu.
[22:14] <GeekSquid> Sweetums: the correct way of sudo persistance is sudo -i ... sudo su has it's vunerabilities
[22:14] <aLeSD> hi
[22:14] <aLeSD> how to paste a file on the back of another ?
[22:14] <aLeSD> file1 > file2 ?
[22:14] <Sweetums> horrible: Ah I see now. I thought you said I had to type 'sudo' everytime with -i. I see now that both -s and -i work.
[22:14] <horrible> aLeSD: >>
[22:14] <aLeSD> thanks
[22:14] <zmitya> aLeSD: file1 >> file2
[22:14] <pravin> Thanx GeekSquid
[22:15] <xim_> nibbler_, ubuntu is on an IDE drive, its only my extra stuff on sata, so i can boot, but now you have me thinking maybe it isnt the driver, the no bios error happens like right after the memory post and ide detection and before ubuntu starts loading
[22:15] <Sweetums> wow -i and -s are rather subtle
[22:15] <MLHickey> this is probably one of the dumber questions here, but if i install a program and it doesn't go into the applications drop down, where does it go?
[22:16] <itaylor57> MLHickey: what program?
[22:16] <ZykoticK9> MLHickey, if you installed a console application it won't show in the menu
[22:16] <kthomas_vh_> the applications menu is just an ALIAS
[22:16] <MLHickey> gm-notifier
[22:16] <kthomas_vh_> whereis gm-notifier?
[22:17] <GeekSquid> MLHickey: rt-click your panel, Add To panel ... Add the gmail notifier
[22:18] <MLHickey> thanks i've only been on ubuntu for a few days
[22:18] <xim_> MLHickey, or if you installed it through synaptic you can find the package and goto properties and see the installed files, look for the ones under /bin/ or /usr/bin for the executable names
[22:18] <mongy> gm-notify
[22:18] <itaylor57> MLHickey: there are not dumb questions, we are all noobs at some level :>)
[22:18] <guampa> mikeliss: found threads with your error message now
[22:18] <guampa> couldn't find nothing before
[22:18] <mikeliss> That's something...I haven't found anything so far....
[22:19] <MLHickey> ok, so most programs install in the user/bin area, thanks i just didn't know if there was a list of installed programs
[22:19] <mikeliss> MLHickey, You can generate a list of installed programs, yes.
[22:20] <mongy> MLHickey, its gm-notify, then look in your indicator menu, and or, system, prefs gm notify config
[22:20] <mikeliss> MLHickey, But I just read over your request...that's probably not what you want...disregard me. Generally, if you want to run a program that's not in the applications drop down, you can type the name in a terminal
[22:20] <Adman65> anyone successfully remapped caps lock to control for use in vim/gvim? I have it remapped in Xmodmap, but doesn't seem to work in vim/gvim
[22:21] <bcj> How can I tell when my vpnc client was last run?
[22:22] <MLHickey> thanks, I found it in the preferences and I have it auto start,
[22:22] <Sweetums> horrible, GeekSquid: Thanks for the tip about sudo. Hard to break a habit but I'll take at look at those flags further. You're right as those seems superior to su -.
[22:22] <erUSUL> Adman65: i did it in System>Preferences>Keyboard and works everywhere (i do not use vim though)
[22:22] <user> hi dear
[22:22] <bencahill> can anyone tell me why the trash icon on my 10.10 install is separated from the desktop icons, limiting the space on the bottom panel?
[22:23] <MLHickey> is there a shortcut to open the terminal?
[22:23] <atpa8a> hello again
[22:23] <bcj> MLHickey: You can set one
[22:24] <atpa8a> having a problem with sysctl not loading sysctl.conf on reboot. any help?
[22:24] <bcj> MLHickey: System | Preferences | Keyboard shortcuts
[22:24] <jmmmp> hi, is anyone in the mood to help with some partition structuring in maverick?
[22:24] <mikeliss> guampa, what threads have you found? I'm still striking out.
[22:24] <bcj> MLHickey: I have mine mapped to Windows+P (prompt)
[22:24] <daniel_tree> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/install-gnome2-globalmenu-in-ubuntu.html this will also remove the menu from program windows ?
[22:24] <bencahill> MLHickey: Ctrl + Alt + T
[22:25] <bencahill> bcj: Ctrl + Alt + T
[22:25] <MLHickey> ok got it all set up
[22:26] <guampa> mikeliss: oops replied to you in other channel, google for +"system snapshot image could not be read"
[22:26] <bcj> bencahill: I didn't ask the question
[22:26] <bencahill> bcj: just fyi :)
[22:26] <bcj> bencahill: Ok, cheers, but I have it set that way for legacy reasons
[22:26] <itaylor57> bencahill: thanks for the info I i didn't know that one
[22:27] <bencahill> itaylor57: I actually learned it on here a few weeks ago :)
[22:27] <bencahill> so does anyone know why the trash icon on my system is so far to the left? :-/
[22:27] <itaylor57> bencahill: what desktop are you using?
[22:28] <bencahill> itaylor57: gnome, default ubuntu 10.10 install, 1st desktop
[22:28] <bencahill> itaylor57: (1st as in the desktops on the bottom-right, whatever they are called :) )
[22:29] <bencahill> !ask | jmmmp
[22:29] <first2none> Hello I need some help with my graphic drivers
[22:29] <itaylor57> bencahill: its just that mine is on the far right
[22:29] <jmmmp> ubottu: got it
[22:29] <first2none> I need to find some and idk where to look
[22:30] <TomsB> I'd like to zip folder. how?
[22:30] <jrib> TomsB: right click -> create archive
[22:30] <TomsB> command line
[22:30] <bencahill> itaylor57: I think mine used to, as well, could be something with the screen resolution change that I had the nvidia thingy save to xorg.conf
[22:30] <jrib> TomsB: zip ...
[22:31] <GeekSquid> TomsB: man zip
[22:31] <first2none> Anyone here who could help me fix my graphics issue?
[22:31] <TomsB> sec
[22:31] <khyron> #ubuntu-br
[22:31] <TomsB> no manual entry for zip
[22:31] <bencahill> khyron: /join #ubuntu-br
[22:31] <jrib> TomsB: install it
[22:31] <sihill> anyone sending mail's from a bash script?
[22:31] <TomsB> emmm pat-get ?
[22:31] <TomsB> *apt
[22:31] <jrib> TomsB: yes
[22:31] <bencahill> TomsB: sudo apt-get install zip
[22:32] <jrib> TomsB: do you specifically want to use zip?
[22:32] <jmmmp> I want to have read-write access to my ntfs + fat32 partitions as standard. I'm not managing it with pysdm, does anyone can point me on how to manage this?
[22:32] <TomsB> no
[22:32] <TomsB> anything to archive files in folder
[22:32] <muratsplat> Hi everybody
[22:32] <lolcat> I use upstart, how do I open folders?
[22:33] <jrib> TomsB: you can create a tar.gz: tar czvf filename.tar.gz file1 file2 ...
[22:33] <jrib> lolcat: open folders in what context?
[22:33] <TomsB> file1 file2.. ?
[22:33] <first2none> TomsB: sudo apt-get install zip
[22:33] <TomsB> I have hundreds of them
[22:33] <first2none> right click file hit compress
[22:33] <TomsB> in one folder
[22:33] <jrib> TomsB: that's fine, put the folder there...
[22:33] <TomsB> ty, installed zip .
[22:34] <TomsB> hmhm sec
[22:34] <first2none> TomsB : if you right click towards the bottom it should say compress
[22:34] <TomsB> I'm on command line
[22:34] <first2none> Oh
[22:35] <first2none> Could someone assist me with my graphic problem>
[22:35] <jrib> first2none: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[22:35] <lolcat> jrib: I want to see the files in my home folder and my seedbox folder
[22:35] <first2none> I have
[22:35] <skalragg> hello, i know this may be offtopic but anyone know of any irc channels that deal with java programming when dealing with middleware, thanks
[22:36] <jrib> lolcat: go to the Places menu → Home
[22:36] <itaylor57> skalragg: ##hava
[22:36] <itaylor57> skalragg: ##java
[22:36] <h00k> skalragg: ##java maybe.
[22:36] <clarezoe> hi, is caljohnsmith in this channel. I have a serious problem about my partition. All my partitions are now unallocated in GParted, I cannot boot to my system either.
[22:37] <clarezoe> I have a serious problem about my partition. All my partitions are now unallocated in GParted, I cannot boot to my system either.
[22:37] <dajhorn> clarezoe: No, caljonhnsmith is not in this channel.
[22:37] <TomsB> tanks for help!
[22:38] <clarezoe> dajhorn, thanks, can you help? or do you know anyone else who is very good at this
[22:38] <dajhorn> clarezoe: Fixing a broken or missing partition table is difficult.   What did you do?
[22:39] <Guest84722> hi
[22:39] <GeekSquid> Guest84722: welcome to ubuntu can we help you with something?
[22:40] <clarezoe> dajhorn, I had my windows partition and it was too small, then I tried to change the size, but it was a primary partition. Then I changed the primary partition to logical and then I couldn't boot to windows anymore.  I haven't backed up my data yet
[22:40] <Guest84722> GeekSquid: i'm just doing some tests, thanks
[22:40] <Guest84722> exit
[22:41] <adrian15> clarezoe: It might work or not but the easiest way of solving this is using gpart (not gparted) probably from system rescue cd
[22:41] <first2none> I need help finding the right graphic drivers for my computer so I can play computer games
[22:42] <clarezoe> adrian15 thanks, I've never used gpart, I'm trying it first
[22:42] <erUSUL> first2none: System>Admin...>Hardware Drivers
[22:42] <first2none> Nothing shows up here
[22:42] <clarezoe> adrian15 any tips, I've never used parted, I'm afraid of losing any data
[22:42] <erUSUL> first2none: what graphic card do you have?
[22:43] <first2none> Its the onboard one that came with the laptop
[22:43] <adrian15> clarezoe: but
[22:43] <erUSUL> first2none: lspci | grep -i vga
[22:43] <adrian15> clarezoe: I do not understand... gparted does no longer detect your windows logical partition ?
[22:43] <erUSUL> first2none: run that on a terminal
[22:43] <adrian15> clarezoe: The program which I have recommended your is gpart
[22:44] <first2none> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[22:44] <clarezoe> adrian15 no not at all, the whole hard drive is detected as unallocated
[22:44] <wolfric> is there anyway to make the area i can select around a window to resize it bigger? Right now it's like threading a needle to get the edge to resize it
[22:44] <erUSUL> first2none: run this too --> glxinfo | grep -Ei '(direct|render)'
[22:45] <clarezoe> adrian15 but fdisk can show all the partitions
[22:45] <adrian15> clarezoe: And how's that? Did you do anything else when changing primary partition to logical partition ? How did you do that ?
[22:45] <erUSUL> wolfric: use a different theme for the window manager. System>Preferences>appearence
[22:45] <first2none> I had to install
[22:45] <clarezoe> adrian15 I did bootrec /fixboot and something like that using the windows cd
[22:46] <first2none> direct rendering: Yes
[22:46] <first2none> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset GEM 20100330 DEVELOPMENT x86/MMX/SSE2
[22:46] <Nautilus> anyone know if gsmartcontrol is included in a ubuntu livecd?
[22:46] <adrian15> clarezoe: Wrong! Using Windows tools after using Gparted is often a bad idea.
[22:46] <gibran> hey i got a question? is Pidgin virus safe? are there any other alternatives? just like to use ym
[22:47] <erUSUL> first2none: you have the correct drivers already installed and working
[22:47] <first2none> Well when I play a game on here i have the graphics set low as possible
[22:47] <clarezoe> adrian15 and I used Partition magic and it said something was wrong I don't remember then fixed it, then the partitions are gone
[22:47] <first2none> but it still doesnt work right
[22:47] <clarezoe> adrian15 I didn't use gparted to resize
[22:48] <adrian15> clarezoe: What the hell
[22:48] <first2none> and sometimes it says I dont have a compatible graphics card
[22:48] <GeekSquid> wolfric: another option, rt-click on the title bar and select resize
[22:48] <clarezoe> adrian15 yeah, I know. I'm becoming mad
[22:48] <gibran> hey i got a question? is Pidgin virus safe? are there any other alternatives? just like to use ym
[22:48] <erUSUL> first2none: intel grpahics performance is less than stelar unfortunetly
[22:48] <first2none> The graphics are all glitchy and half my body is gone
[22:48] <GeekSquid> !repeat | gibran
[22:48] <first2none> Hmm ok
[22:49] <clarezoe> adrian15 after googling, I think only caljohnsmith may help
[22:49] <gibran> sir yes sir
[22:49] <adrian15> clarezoe: It seems that you have made an homeopathic treatment to a human body and then you call a doctor to re-alive the body. ;)
[22:49] <first2none> Anything I could do to possibly make them any better?
[22:49] <campbellgolf> I need to Chroot SFTP users
[22:49] <adrian15> clarezoe: Please use a pastebin to show me your partitions
[22:49] <adrian15> clarezoe: The fdisk -lu output I mean
[22:49] <erUSUL> first2none: yo could try with the xorg-updates ppa. newer drivers may help
[22:49] <erUSUL> !ppa | first2none
[22:49] <clarezoe> adrian15 haha, the comparable is so true
[22:50] <clarezoe> adrian15 just a moment
[22:51] <GeekSquid> gibran: at ease soldier, You arn't going to be getting any viruses, and empathy is built into the OS now which makes Yahoo messaging really easy... Click on your name on the top right and click chat accounts and setup your YM account through there
[22:52] <asdas> hello pals anyone know what line i need on grub to set a new menu.lst file ?
[22:52] <first2none> lol idk which to pick
[22:53] <delinquentme> whats the tag to run the uncomplicated fire wall graphically ?
[22:53] <GeekSquid> asdas: grub is deprecated... Grub2 is the new way which doesn't use a menu.lst file... see the following thing from ubottu
[22:53] <GeekSquid> !grub2 | asdas
[22:53] <clarezoe> adrian15 I'm using the ubuntu live cd now. strangly, no internet, could you help me out with that too?
[22:53] <erUSUL> delinquentme: install gufw ?
[22:54] <asdas> do you know on grub
[22:54] <gsr> From what I understand, the gutmann algorithm for securely deleting data from solid state drives requires 38 passes, because of issues with magnetic residules being used to recreate partial or even full files.  Since a USB key is flash memory, and uses FG transistors instead of a magnetic plate, are the 38 passes required to safely delete from flash memory?
[22:54] <asdas> what is the command line ?
[22:54] <clarezoe> adrian15 and I'm using irc in another computer
[22:54] <adrian15> clarezoe: I prefer other one to do that. Easy fix: Use a cable
[22:54] <clarezoe> adrian15 I'm using a cable
[22:54] <delinquentme> erUSUL, thanks!
[22:55] <OrangePeel> Using Brasero ... Data DVD, it puts the files on the disk but right before it starts actually copying the data(burning) ... it says
[22:55] <OrangePeel> Unable to mount Data disc (03 Jan 11)
[22:55] <OrangePeel> Error mounting: mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[22:55] <OrangePeel> mount: /dev/sr0 already mounted or /media/Data disc (03 Jan 11) busy
[22:55] <adrian15> clarezoe: And you do not have dhcp on your network ?
[22:55] <FloodBot4> OrangePeel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:55] <first2none> alright i installed xorg updates ppa now what?
[22:55] <adrian15> asdas: sudo update-grub       might do what you are asking
[22:55] <asdas> im asking
[22:55] <nyl> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm05cNBJQ8w
[22:55] <asdas> what line on grub sets a new menu.lst
[22:56] <asdas> i dont want to install a nerw grub or update
[22:56] <asdas> my grub
[22:56] <first2none> erUSUL: u still there
[22:56] <erUSUL> first2none: yes
[22:56] <clarezoe> adrian15 sorry, my bad, the cable fell off, now I have internet :)
[22:56] <adrian15> asdas: Do you want to chainload a menu.lst from another menu.lst maybe ?
[22:56] <GeekSquid> gsr: if you follow the Government Wipe protocoll 38 passes is correct, if you are the average user, deleting the file is just fine
[22:56] <first2none> ok I have installed the xorg updates ppa now what?
[22:56] <asdas> yessss kind of im building a multiboot usb
[22:57] <asdas> and i need my menu.lst to point to an other
[22:57] <gsr> GeekSquid: so FG transistors leave residual physical information, like magnetic drives?
[22:57] <adrian15> asdas: It is something like this: chainload (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu2.lst
[22:57] <Sofox> Hey, I've an intersting problem, I'm trying to record my desktop while I play a game, but it seems whatever screen recorder I use, the colours seem to be washed out, a lot lighter. Any idea what could be causing this?
[22:58] <rictec> ls
[22:58] <FrEaKmAn_> hi, can I use DTrace on ubuntu?
[22:58] <asdas> thanks adrian15 i will try this and report bac
[22:58] <rictec> hi anyone using ubuntu on ps3?
[22:59] <adrian15> asdas: Try searching "hermanzone grub" on google he might have some howto on this (Check for grub legacy as you are using menu.lst files)
[22:59] <humanbean> Hello peeps, new to ubuntu, just hanging out if you dont mind
[22:59] <first2none> Well are you looking or dont know or what?
[22:59] <adrian15> !ask | humanbean
[23:00] <GeekSquid> gsr: some guy at NSA or CIA or Homeland came up with that number, he was working with one transistor at a time, to see how much voltage between turning the transistor on/off it would take to push the transistor into the opposite state, the less voltage the closer to the previous state it would be. and as always the Govt is doing things overkill
[23:00] <humanbean> thanks i will just watch for now
[23:00] <clarezoe> adrian15:  hi, here is my fdisk -ul output http://paste.ubuntu.com/550025/
[23:01] <adrian15> clarezoe: Do you have 120 Gigabytes or more ?
[23:01] <clarezoe> adrian15:  120 G
[23:01] <HeTaL> Is there any software to check what programs are using how much of my internet speed?
[23:02] <GeekSquid> HeTaL: ps aux
[23:02] <first2none> erUSUL: you gonna finish helping me?
[23:02] <GeekSquid> HeTaL: strike that ... netstat -ntap
[23:02] <rictec> HeTaL: USE IFTOP -I ETH0
[23:02] <adrian15> clarezoe: What is it supposed to be sda7 partition ?
[23:02] <rictec> soory for caps
[23:02] <erUSUL> first2none: i pointed to the docs on using ppa's. did you read it?
[23:03] <first2none> Oh i didnt see the link
[23:03] <gsr> GeekSquid: awesome, thanks for the info!
[23:03] <PhenX> hi
[23:03] <rictec> anyone using ubuntu 10.04 on a PS3?
[23:03] <jmmmp> I want to have read-write access to my ntfs + fat32 partitions as standard. I'm not managing it with pysdm, does anyone can point me on how to manage this?
[23:03] <erUSUL> first2none: see here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[23:03] <clarezoe> adrian15:  I think it is Dell laptop special partition for music playing without booting into windows. something like that, I've never used it
[23:03] <Sofox> Any idea what's causing colours to be too light on a screen record?
[23:04] <erUSUL> first2none: everyhing you need should be there (specially the "Read about installing" link )
[23:04] <GeekSquid> !fstab | jmmmp
[23:04] <adrian15> clarezoe: So... sda5 was a primary partition in an earlier life ? Or maybe sda6 ? You might guess them by their sizes (blocks column)
[23:04] <erUSUL> first2none: if you have a specific problem in a specific step in the process; ask
[23:04] <first2none> the only part i'm having is idk which package to pick
[23:05] <clarezoe> adrian15:  sda 5 was the primary partition before I changed it
[23:05]  * rictec i guess i m the only one lol
[23:05] <erUSUL> first2none: do not pick any package; add the repositorie in software sources
[23:05] <rictec> thank you people
[23:05] <first2none> erUSUL: I already did
[23:05] <erUSUL> first2none: read the "Adding this PPA to your system" paragraph
[23:05] <clarezoe> adrian15: and it was around 19G before, and I changed it to 30G
[23:06] <jmmmp> ubottu: I know about fstab's existence, but it would help me to know the normal parameters to correctly mount a read-write partition at boot time. From that on I could see if I can improve on that.
[23:06] <clarezoe> adrian15: maybe a bit more
[23:06] <first2none> erUSUL: Its already added idk what to do next tho
[23:06] <erUSUL> first2none: then just run the update manager ( some packages will be updated ) and reboot
[23:06] <first2none> erUSUL: Ah ok lol
[23:06] <delinquentme> Anyone have any thoughts on how to view the "localhost" of a DIFFERENT computer within your local router?
[23:06] <erUSUL> first2none: System>Admin...>Update manager
[23:07] <first2none> Yea i got it and there were updates from xorg so hope it goes well
[23:07] <jrib> delinquentme: what do you mean by "view the "localhost""?
[23:07] <erUSUL> first2none: good luck
[23:07] <adrian15> clarezoe: I do not what to advise you. Maybe to use gpart, maybe not. And then use a windows howto on how to recover windows boot. You might succeed even if the windows partition is logical
[23:08] <delinquentme> jrib, i mean id like to be able to see what that individual machine is viewing at URL : http://localhost:3000 ... on a different computer within that intranet
[23:08] <first2none> erUSUL : ty for the help
[23:08] <erUSUL> first2none: no problem
[23:08] <jrib> delinquentme: use the internal ip address for that machine (ifconfig will tell you)
[23:08] <GeekSquid> jmmmp: that link tells more than I can explain here, if you know about fstab, then you know that in order to do what you need to do you need to edit fstab with the directives described in the community document
[23:09] <clarezoe> adrian15:  I've tried many ways by windows howtos, and the conclusion I've learn was to change it back to primary
[23:09] <adrian15> clarezoe: By the way
[23:09] <adrian15> clarezoe: Have you tried to mount the windows partition manually to save your data into a usb hard drive?
[23:09] <adrian15> clarezoe: I might help you on that
[23:09] <delinquentme> jrib, yeah im doing that .. so far not working .. is the port number important?
[23:09] <jrib> delinquentme: what *exactly* are you doing?
[23:10] <itaylor57> erUSUL: i have an intel graphics card,and trying to do rendering 3g is a "windmill toppeling quest" from horseback
[23:10] <jmmmp> GeekSquid: that's true. but so far my efforts with fstab were infrutiferous. I'll try again, though
[23:10] <clarezoe> adrian15:  yeah, now I only care about the data, if I can backup the data, then I will wipe the harddrive
[23:10] <GeekSquid> jmmmp: perhaps if you will pastebin your fstab, I can take a look
[23:10] <clarezoe> adrian15:  could you help me with that?
[23:10] <taiyal> What repositories do I have to enable in order to install a 2.6.36 kernel and its source package through apt?
[23:10] <adrian15> clarezoe: So if you click on Places it does not mount the windows partitions?
[23:11] <delinquentme> jrib, im running ruby on rails .. and i have a local server running on my " BIG machine " .. i would like the " LITTLE machine " to view the current state of the code the BIG machine has showing on its local host  ( for IE debugging purposes )
[23:11] <clarezoe> adrian15:  I can see the partitions under Places, but cannot mount
[23:11] <dwarder> where should i pud zenddebugger module on ubuntu?
[23:11] <adrian15> clarezoe: Open a terminal
[23:12] <clarezoe> adrian15: sure
[23:12] <adrian15> clarezoe: sudo mkdir /mnt/sda5 ; sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5
[23:12] <jrib> delinquentme: ok that clarifies what you want to do, but you said you did something ("that").  What exactly did you do?
[23:12] <nyl> how can i rotate screen in xorg.conf?
[23:13] <KaV> chainload -> menu.lst doesnt work
[23:13] <jmmmp> GeekSquid: I'll try a couple of things and reboot for sure. thanks, hopefully I won't bother you
[23:13] <clarezoe> adrian15: yes, it works, thanks
[23:13] <gibran> hi anyone knows how i can see the people who are online on yahoo messenger? im using empathy
[23:13] <adrian15> clarezoe: You can do the same for sda6
[23:13] <delinquentme> jrib, i have the little computer ( with IE ) opening the internal network URL ( <IP_ADDRESS> ) .. as well as i have all ports opened using GUFW on the BIG machine .. ( ubuntu )
[23:13] <clarezoe> adrian15: yeah, I think I know how to do that!
[23:14] <Inlite> hey guys, Im new to ubuntu - I downloaded a new veriosn of blender and it wont run, when i try to open it in terminal it says its not there. any ideas?
[23:14] <jrib> delinquentme: and on BIG, <IP_ADDRESS> serves up the ruby on rails site?
[23:14] <dwarder> where should i pud zenddebugger module on ubuntu?
[23:14] <clarezoe> adrian15:  thank you very much! Now I can go to bed and won't have nightmares
[23:14] <adrian15> clarezoe: If you even learn how to revert a logical partition to a primary partition please report back in www.supergrubdisk.org so that I implement it in Rescatux
[23:14] <delinquentme> jrib, nah actually it does not
[23:15] <jrib> delinquentme: how do you view the site on BIG?
[23:15] <clarezoe> adrian15: yeah, sure!
[23:15] <clarezoe> adrian15: I will backup my data and playaround with it, haha
[23:15] <KaV> any other ideas on how to point to an other menu.lst on grub4dos ?
[23:16] <delinquentme> jrib, Ohhhh ok its just <IP_ADDRESS>:3000
[23:16] <adrian15> KaV: It should work what I have told you
[23:16] <jrib> delinquentme: ok, so add the port number to 192.168.whatever on little
[23:16] <adrian15> KaV: You might need to specity the grub device... I do not know if grub4dos has such a variable
[23:16] <delinquentme> boom !
[23:16] <first2none> wow that was retarted
[23:17] <delinquentme> huzza! jrib thanks man :D
[23:17] <first2none> erUSUL: You still there?
[23:17] <KaV> adrian15 wait i ll check it again
[23:17] <adrian15> KaV: You know... instead of (hd0,0)... I do not know if you are using first partition on the usb by the way
[23:17] <adrian15> KaV: And if you set your bios so that your pendrive is the first one
[23:17] <adrian15> KaV: Having a look at menu.lst at a pastebin would help
[23:18] <KaV> its a single line no need to paste it.. :) chainloader (hd0,0)/bt4-r2/boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:18] <first2none> erUSUL: I have installed updates and restarted now how do i see if it worked?
[23:18] <itaylor57> first2none: you may be exceeding the capabilites of you grapics chip
[23:19] <taiyal> What repositories do I have to enable in order to install a 2.6.36 kernel and its source package through apt?
[23:19] <first2none> I sure hope not :(
[23:19] <adrian15> KaV: I might be aslept. It is not chainloader ... it is configfile
[23:19] <KaV> error 13 invalid or unsupported executable format
[23:20] <damo_f> hi all
[23:20] <banisterfiend> off for the w/e bye
[23:20] <vantage> what command will show current disk space...
[23:21] <goviel> Inlite: did you install or just donwload the folder?
[23:21] <Guest76602> adrian15 yes thats it :) works
[23:21] <erUSUL> first2none: see if performance is improved or not. we just have upgraded to newer versions of the driver; there is no waranties that that will imporve things
[23:21] <GeekSquid> vantage: df -a
[23:21] <Guest76602> KAV: thanks
[23:21] <Inlite> goviel, I downloaded and unwrapped
[23:21] <damo_f> I'm a noob to Ubuntu and was looking to run the netbook verson on my laptop booting from USB so far I've managed to get everything going and mounted my NAS, but is there a easy way I can remove the splash screen that comes up on boot that askes if I want to trial or install?
[23:22] <Paatus> hi guys
[23:22]  * adrian15 Going to bed
[23:22] <Inlite> goviel, http://imagebin.org/130849
[23:22] <Paatus> has anyone here set up a mail server in ubuntu?
[23:23] <erUSUL> !mta | Paatus
[23:23] <dorbin> what is the command for checking for updates?
[23:24] <Paatus> yea but how should i configure it, and what ports should i forward and so on?
[23:24] <jmmmp> I can't get the right parameters with fstab. a) my ntfs partition can only be unmounted by root, and b) the vfat partition isn't mounted read-write at boot time (only if I unmount+mount it). can anyone help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/550029/
[23:24] <Paatus> and what adress to MX?
[23:24] <KM0201> dorbin: sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:24] <vantage> geeksquid do you know where the config is located for gnome. like for menu config and if i wanted to exec a script on start up
[23:24] <itaylor57> first2none: <erUSUL> first2none: see if performance is improved or not. we just have upgraded to newer versions of the driver; there is no waranties that that will imporve things
[23:24] <first2none> Just got to System>Admin>Update Manager
[23:24] <KM0201> first2none: thats not really a command, but it works just as well.
[23:24] <goviel> Inlite: type ./blender once you are in the folder
[23:24] <first2none> lol
[23:24] <dorbin> KM0201: cheers!
[23:25] <first2none> Yea i tested to see if the graphics have changed any but they havent
[23:25] <GeekSquid> vantage: userspace or kernelspace?
[23:25] <Paatus> can anyone help me set up a mail server?
[23:25] <vantage> gekksquid
[23:25] <first2none> So I guess I'll just stop bugging with it cause the card just might not be able to push it
[23:25] <vantage> geeksquid ... blah im thinking of flux box
[23:25] <NixGeek> vantage: to execute a script at startup go to system>preferences>startup applications
[23:25] <vantage> nixgeek Thanks
[23:26] <NixGeek> vantage: your very welcome, glad to help
[23:26] <Paatus> i got a web server running on the server and i want to be able to have emails on it (e.g<EMAIL_ADDRESS>) and to mail from it using php
[23:26] <Paatus> can anyone help me or atleast point me in the right direction?
[23:27] <eradicus> I have created a bootable usb using pendrive linux and kubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso, the problem is the video doesn't work after grub, a black screen is shown all through out.
[23:27] <cheteen> hi I need Some information for IDENEB anybody can help me?
[23:27] <Paatus> i got a web server running on the server and i want to be able to have emails on it (e.g<EMAIL_ADDRESS>) and to mail from it using php
[23:27] <Paatus> can anyone help me or atleast point me in the right direction?
[23:27] <itaylor57> first2none: what are you trying to run?
[23:28] <GeekSquid> Paatus: I really like vpostmaster for setting up mail servers, makes useradmin and domain managment easy ... sendmail will sendmail regardless but there are so many differnet levels of mail that without a better idea of what this is used for it is a little difficult to point you in the right direction
[23:28] <GeekSquid> !repeat | Paatus
[23:28] <first2none> eradicus: Why dont you just use "unetbootin"?
[23:28] <vantage> Nixgeek does gnome use eterm xterm or what for their terminal's Where would the config be for the menu's
[23:28] <Paatus> thanks Geeksquid
[23:28] <wrd> Paatus: you need to install a mailserver to do that. usually you want a combination of smtp (maybe postfix) and imap (cyrrusm, curier, or dovecot) if you want webmail you could look into squirrelmail or something similar.
[23:28] <first2none> eradicus: Its a simple program that will make a perfectly bootable copy of whatever linux you have
[23:29] <NixGeek> vantage: you mean like deleting and adding stuff to menu's? try system>preferences>main menu
[23:29] <eradicus> first2none, it's already bootable, the issue is the video, after grub.
[23:30] <vantage> lol Nix not use to all this gui stuff.....
[23:30] <first2none> Ah i have the same problem with my desktop so i had to use this laptop
[23:30] <first2none> eradicus: I never did find out the issue with that
[23:30] <ocean>  hi guys. i have just installed ubuntu 10.10 64 bit on my hp dv6-3150sa laptop.installation was flawless. After restarting the first thing I did was to install the updates. a message poped up for a restricted driver for my graphic card, which i installed as well. When i restared my computer i found my desktop missing and its takin me to the command mode. can any one help pls
[23:31] <Paatus> guys.. if i explain my situation. can you tell me what to do.. the options are many and i've tried back and forth all day
[23:31] <Paatus> is that ok?
[23:31] <delaware> ocean:  try typing startx and see what message you get
[23:31] <GeekSquid> Paatus: that's fine, if it is a long, long question, consider putting it into a pastebin
[23:31] <erUSUL> Paatus: http://www.davidhurst.co.uk/2007/06/19/php-mail-and-ssmtp-on-debian-linux/
[23:32] <Paatus> wow thanks erUSUL
[23:33] <Paatus> but.. on my domain how can i configure a smtp subdomain? cause i should do that right?
[23:33] <ocean> i am getting a long output, but one of the line says fatal server error no screen found
[23:33] <soreau> ocean: Which graphics card is it?
[23:34] <Paatus> i got a subdomain called mail but how do i make it a smtp?
[23:34] <ocean> on my laptop its written ATI mobility radeon premium graphics
[23:34] <delaware> iirc his laptop should have the ati mobility radeon 4250 gpu
[23:35] <chrometiger> I have 2 hard drive icons on my desktop , how can i make their icons revert back to default?  i've changed them now I want them to use the system icon theme i have running
[23:36] <Paatus> erUSUL: how can i make a subdomain a smtp domain? :D
[23:36] <ocean> when i tried restarting the laptop with ac power disconnected it did not even go to command mode. it gave a message error at low memory
[23:36] <Rajko> help
[23:36] <Rajko> i get gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256
[23:36] <Rajko> and then gnome power manager says in the corner that its configuration is bad
[23:36] <Rajko> and it looks unskinned like win98
[23:36] <Rajko> and i cant log in because i get the 256 error again
[23:37] <Rajko> 10.10 x64
[23:37] <soreau> ocean: Try this from a root prompt: apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx && rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && reboot
[23:37] <taiyal> What repositories do I have to enable in order to install a 2.6.36 kernel and its source package through apt?
[23:37] <Rajko> how do i fully remove gnome including config files
[23:37] <Rajko> and then reinstall it
[23:38] <Paatus> does anyone know how to make my subdomain a smtp server?
[23:39] <delaware> ocean:  the restricted drivers are adaptations of the ati graphics drivers that give you full potentional of your graphics card in your system versus the generic graphics card driver which is slow (very slow) but useable.  I have an older hp laptop wth nvidia graphics card inside.  I have never had a problem with using restricted drivers, and I highly reccomend them.  the only other thing I can think of besides what soreau has
[23:39] <delaware> suggested is:  have you played with any bios settings that could have an impact?
[23:39] <ocean> is that X11 or Xll in the command line?
[23:39] <delaware> eleven
[23:40] <soreau> delaware: Its not a generic driver, its the open radeon driver and its quite capable
[23:40] <ocean> what should i do after removing them
[23:40] <soreau> ocean: X eleven
[23:40] <ocean> ?
[23:40] <GeekSquid> Paatus: your question is application specific .. I reccommend taking your questions to #postfix
[23:41] <ocean> so am i going to miss the full potential of my graphic card if i remove it? :-(
[23:41] <soreau> ocean: The default radeon driver should be active by default after you remove fglrx
[23:41] <delaware> soreau:  the driver you first start out with then you install ubuntu is a gneric driver, then you can opt to enable the restricted driver which is the open radon driver.  correct me again if i'm wrong.
[23:42] <taiyal> Ubuntu gives you the open radeon driver by default
[23:42] <nit-wit> so anybody have ant experience with western digital HD's and firmware ie smartware
[23:42] <nit-wit> *any
[23:42] <soreau> delaware: You are wrong. The open radeon driver is the default. Fglrx is the proprietary/catalyst driver that is optional for newer radeon cards
[23:43] <delaware> soreau:  okay, that sounds right.  thanks, (re-learn) something everyday.
[23:43] <taiyal> What repositories do I have to enable in order to install a 2.6.36 kernel and its source package through apt?
[23:43] <Paatus> how do i know if my smtp server requires authentification?
[23:43] <ocean> yes i installed the the restricted driver later
[23:43] <chrometiger> I have 2 hard drive icons on my desktop , how can i make their icons revert back to default?  i've changed them now I want them to use the system icon theme i have running
[23:43] <vip_22> hello
[23:43] <NixGeek> nit-wit: I have an older western digiatal hd in my computer and it's fine, It was in a dell computer that got hit by lighning and then I moved it when I build this computer.
[23:43] <Rajko> thanks a lot guys
[23:43] <Rajko> it was chmod 1777 /tmp
[23:43] <delaware> nit-wit are you trying to disable the annoying virtual drive on a wd hd?
[23:43] <Rajko> dumbasses
[23:44] <uzi__> taiyal: the main repository has both of it.
[23:44] <taiyal> the default repositories only have up to 2.6.35 something
[23:44] <uzi__> taiyal: you just have to enable it through software center.
[23:44]  * KM0201 guesses Rajko wasn't happy with the service he got for what it cost...
[23:44] <taiyal> oh, I haven't tried software center yet, only synaptic
[23:45] <ocean> soreau i am trying to restart my computer now and nothing comes up when  i choose ubuntu
[23:45] <nit-wit> delaware, I was just trying to help somebody intall Ubuntu installed rebooted in then rebootes to a no disc whic I have a sourceforge link on
[23:46] <soreau> ocean: Then you have bigger problems than just graphics drivers
[23:46] <nit-wit> delaware, would help to know the disable or hide though, appears available in the latest firmware
[23:46] <delaware> i agree with soreau
[23:46] <ocean> how can i figure it out
[23:46] <jmmmp> I can't get the right parameters with fstab. a) my ntfs partition can only be unmounted by root, and b) the vfat partition isn't mounted read-write at boot time (only if I unmount+mount it). can anyone help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/550029/
[23:46] <ocean> reinstalling ubuntu can it help?
[23:47] <nit-wit> NixGeek, thanks for the response
[23:47] <soreau> ocean: Did you turn the machine completely off and wait a few seconds to restart it?
[23:47] <ocean> no
[23:47] <taiyal> uzi__: my Software Center only shows kernels up to 2.6.35 (I'm using 10.10 here)
[23:47] <NixGeek> nit-wit: happy to help
[23:47] <delaware> nit-wit if you want to hide a virtual drive on a wd hd, you have to have a windows pc to run wd's software to modify the firmware and turn off that option.
[23:48] <soreau> ocean: Since fglrx and radeon are two very different drivers, it might be a good idea to power down the machine completely and cold boot it to make sure the card isnt in a nonfunctional state
[23:48] <nit-wit> delaware, Thats what I thought thanks.:)
[23:48] <uzi__> taiyal: i think you could just add natty respository. i'm not sure if they have 2.6.36.
[23:49] <taiyal> okay, I'll try that, thanks
[23:49] <ocean> what is cold boot, sorry soreau to aks that Q?
[23:49] <diecastarts> Hailz to all :) just a quick question (what would be the best compression to use on dvd image)
[23:49] <campbellgolf> what is the URL where I can type config snippets?
[23:49] <Fraser> Hello all i have a prob when i or a prog tries to change the screen res i get thrown back to the log in screen  ? any ideas
[23:49] <diecastarts> I'm try to clean up my External
[23:49] <uzi__> ocean: when you start your computer from poweroff state.
[23:49] <soreau> ocean: cold boot means to turn the machine off and wait a few seconds before restarting it
[23:49] <ocean> so what is the recomended way of doing it on the hp laptop
[23:50] <diecastarts> poor TB drive with 3gbs left lol
[23:50] <ocean> ok, i will try that now
[23:50] <dwarder> please tell me where should i put my php module?
[23:50] <uzi__> 3gbs is a lot.
[23:50] <diecastarts> well no i have to do a whole format
[23:50] <diecastarts> so i need a good compresstion tool
[23:50] <dwarder> will /etc/php5/apache2 ok?
[23:50] <NixGeek> jmmmp: use ntfs-config to do it graphically. install with "sudo apt-get install ntfs-config"
[23:50] <diecastarts> gui or command ref if anyone knows off hand
[23:51] <ocean> does this mean that ubuntu is not flawless on 64 bit.
[23:51] <soreau> ocean: Nothing is flawless but ubuntu works pretty well all in all
[23:51] <diecastarts> i know i could use the stander ones .. but just though maybe there is better compressions
[23:52] <diecastarts> I don't care the time it takes lol
[23:52] <KM0201> ocean: i guess depending on your hardware, it might be flawless
[23:52] <uzi__> nothing is flawless
[23:52] <jmmmp> Nixgeek: also for the fat32 partition?
[23:53] <ocean> I tried that soreau twice. no joy once the booting up page came up but it don do anything
[23:53] <soreau> ocean: Was this an upgrade or a clean install?
[23:54] <GeekSquid> jmmmp: should look a little more like this  /dev/sda1 /media/sda1     ntfs-3g rw,nls=iso8859-1,   0 0
[23:54] <ocean> its a brand new laptop and a clean install
[23:54] <ocean> it worked on first reboot
[23:54] <diecastarts> so no ione really know a good compression program? or did i miss my answer sorry :)
[23:54] <tortoise7> anyone have clue as to why grub fails to install and dpkg returns error 1.... on a fresh install with custom partitions..... and yet everything installs just fine if automatic installation is allowed...... 10.04/ amd64/ 500GB hdd /  no other os.
[23:54] <soreau> ocean: I dont know what happened but you can try reinstalling and dont install the fglrx driver
[23:54] <ocean> so what is that driver for soreau.
[23:55] <soreau> ocean: It is the proprietary driver AMD/Radeon releases for newer radeon cards though it is less stable than the open radeon driver
[23:55] <ocean> would it affect the perfomance of the graphics functionality of the laptop?
[23:55] <NixGeek> jmmmp: use GeekSquid's thing, it'll probably be better.  It's been a bit since i messed with mounting NTFS partitions
[23:56] <soreau> ocean: Yes
[23:56] <jmmmp> GeekSquid: thanks. do you know also about the vfat one?
[23:56] <ocean> which is the better one?
[23:56] <NixGeek> for fat32, basically the same thing except instead of NTFS-3g, put vfat
[23:56] <jmmmp> NixGeek: yes, the ntfs program only asked for read/write (which is already ok)
[23:56] <soreau> ocean: In my opinion, the open radeon driver is better
[23:57] <ocean> including the better function as well?
[23:57] <soreau> ocean: But its still in heavy development and not yet optimized
[23:57] <kingos> Hi, can anyone give me help with ndiswrapper here?
[23:57] <ocean> which is in heavy development?
[23:57] <soreau> kingos: Which chip is it?
[23:57] <ocean> open on restricted?
[23:57] <soreau> ocean: open is an acronym of restricted
[23:58] <kingos> soreau: bcmwlhigh5
[23:58] <soreau> ! ndiswrapper | kingos
[23:58] <GeekSquid> jmmmp: /dev/sda6     /media/sda6  vfat   defaults,user,exec,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000 0 0
[23:58] <canon> Anyone here using NodeZero?
[23:58] <kingos> soreau: both with default, and compiled from svn, after I install the driver, both ndisdriver -l and lsusb hang
[23:58] <{C}ronos> is there a way to remount usb drives without unpluging and repluging?
[23:59] <soreau> kingos: If lsusb hangs, that is not good
[23:59] <ocean> so what kind of driver is installed on a custom ubuntu install
[23:59] <kingos> soreau: clearly :)
[23:59] <aeon-ltd> {C}ronos: i suppose, with umount
[23:59] <soreau> {C}ronos: umount and mount
[23:59] <kingos> soreau: so what can I do about it?
[23:59] <soreau> {C}ronos: Or click on it in nautilus
[23:59] <{C}ronos> doesnt quite work the way i would expect


[03:25] <bwmaker> Arch is evil.
[03:30] <Unit193> Haha. ;D
[03:30] <Unit193> What?
[03:48] <bwmaker> A friend recommended that if I really wanted to learn linux from an admin/engineer point of view, install Arch on bare metal. I probably shouldn't have started at 8PM. :)
[03:49] <bwmaker> I've done it before, but now, during install, it's only wanting to mount my root partition as read-only.
[03:49] <Unit193> wrst says he can get it done in half an hour.
[03:49] <bwmaker> :-|
[03:50] <Unit193> Of course, when you break something and have to re-install every week that'll do it. ;)
[03:51] <bwmaker> lol
[03:52] <bwmaker> Yeah, I can see how it can make you faster and improve one's 1337 h4x0r skillz.
[03:54] <Unit193> (he doesn't actually re-install every week, but he's done it a few times.)
[03:58] <bwmaker> Welp... apparently it's not good for me to be working on this late at night. I was trying to mount sd1 instead of sda1. Problem solved. Not Arches fault.
[19:59] <bwmaker> Afternoon, folks.
[19:59] <Unit193> Howdy.
[20:16] <bwmaker> How's it going, Unit193?
[20:19] <Unit193> I'm alive?  Had to fix a patch that uses ^M line endings. >_<
[20:19] <Unit193> You?
[20:27] <bwmaker> Good. Testing out some time based events... which can only be scheduled on 15 minute intervals, so that can easily eat up a lot of time.
[20:27] <bwmaker> It's been a long day. :)
[20:28] <Unit193> Tried out Manjaro and Void in a VM last night, both Xfce versions.
[20:29] <bwmaker> Unit193: Void's a new one on me. Another package manager, though? Really?
[20:29] <bwmaker> :)
[20:30] <bwmaker> Don't we have plenty?
[20:31] <Unit193> Clearly not!  Another!
[20:31] <bwmaker> "its package manager and build system have been written from scratch."
[20:33] <Unit193> Yeeeep.  Uses LibreSSL though.
[20:34] <bwmaker> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[20:47] <bwmaker> I did Arch installed last night, but my lan adapter isn't working. I followed the instructions for the dhcpcd service, but doesn't seem to want to work. going to dig into that tonight.
[21:09] <wrst> Unit193: I can do it to a working gnome in 30 minutes after doing it a few times
[21:09] <wrst> I beat my head on a wall for half a day first go around with it :)


[05:25]  * alkisg rolls up sleeves, grabs ubuntu-23.04-beta-live-server-amd64.iso, and decides to spend the morning on this... wish me luck :)
[05:37] <arighi> alkisg, thanks, I'll also investigate a bit more on this today, let me know if you find anything.. and good luck!
[05:45] <alkisg> Comparing jammy server with lunar server, with init=/bin/bash.
[05:45] <alkisg> Original: jammy=91M, lunar=145M. So smaller diff than the desktop versions, but still significant.
[05:45] <alkisg> With MODULES=dep, the initramfs size shrinked from 126M to 63M. Still lunar=145M, so it's not related to the initramfs size.
[05:51] <alkisg> Purging the following packages shrinked the initrd to just 18M but made no difference to used RAM: linux-modules-extra-6.2.0-20-generic, amd64-microcode, intel-microcode
[06:26] <alkisg> Swapping the kernels (6.2 on 22.04 and 5.15 on 23.04) made no difference
[06:40] <arighi> alkisg, have you created a bug in launchpad for this issue already?
[06:40] <alkisg> arighi: no, I don't know where to file it yet!
[06:41] <arighi> arighi, ok, just wanted to double check, I'll create one later
[06:41] <alkisg> Currently I'm completely puzzled. I copied the whole /boot, and the difference is still there! I see an "unsupported ext4 FEATURE_C12", checking if it's related to the ext4 module and file system...
[07:11] <alkisg> I added `copy_exec /bin/free /bin` in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks, to copy the `free` command to the initramfs.
[07:11] <alkisg> Now I'm testing with `break=top`, even before udev runs. There, jammy=35M, lunar=340M used RAM.
[07:11] <alkisg> If I wasn't seeing this with my own eyes, I wouldn't believe the bug reporter... :)
[08:07] <alkisg> arighi: I think I found the major difference, it's in what `free` reports.
[08:07] <alkisg> With `break=bottom`, if I mount a jammy disk and `chroot /root free`, it says 65M, while with a lunar disk at that exact point, it says 500M.
[08:07] <alkisg> So the "used" column is different, yet the "available" column is the same.
[08:23] <arighi> alkisg, hm.. interesting, how does /proc/meminfo look like?
[08:23] <arighi> this would tell us if the difference is actually in free showing a different result, because theoretically it should read all the mem info from /proc/meminfo
[08:35] <alkisg> I have to do something urgent, back later on :/
[08:37] <arighi> alkisg, ack, no problem, take your time
[09:17] <alkisg> arighi: https://termbin.com/4mjk
[09:27] <arighi> alkisg, I see only one /proc/meminfo, that is in lunar I assume, it'd be nice to see /proc/meminfo also in the jammy case
[09:29] <alkisg> arighi: that test was: "boot jammy with break=bottom; so only the initramfs is loaded; then chroot to jammy and run free, or chroot to lunar and run free"
[09:29] <alkisg> So it's a different interpretation of the SAME /proc/meminfo file
[09:29] <arighi> alkisg, moreover I'm wondering if this is related to: https://gitlab.com/procps-ng/procps/-/commit/2184e90d2e7cdb582f9a5b706b47015e56707e4d
[09:29] -ubottu:#ubuntu-kernel- Commit 2184e90 in procps-ng/procps "library: modify calculation of 'MEMINFO_MEM_USED' item"
[09:29] <arighi> alkisg, ahh ok got it! thanks for the clarification
[09:29] <alkisg> That's probably it. So I think it's a false alarm. I did read the procps news and changelog, that commit didn't stand out, thanks for pointing me to it
[09:30] <arighi> yeah I'm pretty sure jammy's procps doesn't have that commit
[09:31] <alkisg> Based on my tests so far, I think 22.10 doesn't have it either
[09:31] <arighi> alkisg, according to the git log the commit has been introduced in procps v4.0.1
[09:32] <arighi> 22.10 is using a 3.3.17
[09:32] <alkisg> OK everything matches; that's it; thanks a lot for your help on this :)
[09:32] <arighi> and lunar 4.0.3-1ubuntu1
[09:32] <arighi> so yeah, I think it all makes sense now :)
[09:33] <arighi> thank you for reporting this alkisg
[09:33] <alkisg> 👍
[10:53] <LocutusOfBorg> arighi, its autopkgtests.ubuntu.com not having them
[10:56] <arighi> LocutusOfBorg, hm... it doesn't have EFI?
[10:56] <LocutusOfBorg> who knows? :)
[10:57] <arighi> so the kernel is right at complaining :)
[11:12] <LocutusOfBorg> meh, who can know this?
[11:12] <LocutusOfBorg> in Debian autopkgtests are EFI enabled I would say


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