[16:16] <guest3456_> trism: thanks that explains it
[16:16] <jelly> Guest6258: use "dpkg -l 'virtualbox*' |grep ^.i" to find out installed package names.  Then use dpkg -L packagename to see its contents
[16:17] <Guest6258> how can i install mac iso file on ubuntu with virtual box?
[16:18] <Guest6258> when i do that i just see boot: in my virtual box
[16:19] <Jordan_U> Guest6258: What do you mean by "mac iso file"?
[16:20] <Guest6258> Jordan_U, i have downloaded mac os iso file and i need to run it on my virtual box
[16:20] <auronandace1> abhishek: this happens on a fresh instll?
[16:21] <abhishek> auronandace1, yeah
[16:21] <auronandace> abhishek: you could try a newer kernel
[16:21] <auronandace> !mainline | abhishek
[16:21] <nacc> abhishek: i feel like we talkeda bout this already in this channel. Why did you file a new bug report?
[16:22] <nacc> abhishek: it would have made more sense to provide the input int he existing bug, no?
[16:22] <Jordan_U> Guest6258: It is not legal to run OSX on anything but Apple hardware, so this channel can't help you with that.
[16:23] <abhishek> nacc, it ended there so I posted a new one. I am not very sure, this is my first bug report
[16:23] <Pici> Guest6258: fwiw, ##hackintosh exists
[16:23] <abhishek> auronandace, can you please explain more I am new to linux. I want to try kernel without compiling.
[16:24] <auronandace> abhishek: you'll need to read the link that ubottu gave you
[16:24] <NoobMan> hi .. which version to download for INTEL 64 BIT computer from here http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[16:24] <auronandace> NoobMan: the default 63bit version
[16:24] <Pici> NoobMan:  ubuntu-14.04.4-server-amd64.iso
[16:24] <auronandace> 64
[16:24] <nacc> abhishek: what do you mean it ended? it's not closed, it's marked as triaged, etc ... it's also possible this is an upstrema bug given the tags in the original report
[16:25] <k1l_> NoobMan: amd64. the 64bit patent is from amd so its named after that. but intel uses the same patent
[16:25] <NoobMan> auronandace: i'm using intel chipset and i need it for deskto
[16:25] <Jordan_U> NoobMan: Any reason you're going with 14.04 instead of 16.04?
[16:26] <auronandace> NoobMan: amd64 is the what the architecture is called under linux, intel and amd will run it just fine
[16:26] <NoobMan> Jordan_U: yes i installed 16but now i find problem with the ethernet port..i can't use my lan wire
[16:26] <Jordan_U> auronandace: Please don't make snarky comments.
[16:26] <NoobMan> auronandace: thanks ..love you all Jordan_U k1l_ Pici
[16:27] <Jordan_U> auronandace: Never mind, I see that was just a typo :)
[16:30] <abhishek> someone had posted easier instructions before, but I have no history. What should I do install debs here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.7-rc1-yakkety/?
[16:30] <vasco_> ubuntu-it
[16:32] <ptrz> is ubuntu desktop or ubuntu server preferable for a shared access login server?
[16:32] <ptrz> seems like people using it may want tools that are associated more with desktop
[16:33] <SchrodingersScat> ptrz: completely up to you, start with whichever is closest to what you want.
[16:35] <abhishek> nacc, oh I didn't know that. I have commented on that bug now. From the last of comment of psi change fix I thought mine was different.
[16:37] <nacc> abhishek: it's hard to tell, i guess -- so maybe it's fine to have opened a new bug. But it would definitely be good to test current mainlien to see if it's fixed or not. I believe ubottu's link tells you exactly the steps to install a pakcage from mainline
[16:40] <abhishek> nacc, auronandace which build should I use http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=N;O=D?
[16:44] <nacc> abhishek: i assume you're on xenial, right?
[16:44] <abhishek> nacc, yeah
[16:45] <abhishek> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.4.12-xenial/?
[16:45] <nacc> abhishek: ok, i would normally say the latest-yakkety *should* work, i'm asking if there's a reason there aren't xenial builds, though, to be sure
[16:45] <nacc> abhishek: no, that'd be the latest stable
[16:45] <nacc> abhishek: which, while helpful, isn't quite what we want
[16:45] <duygyufuysdugy> hey faggots
[16:45] <Randomness> how do you remove guest user in Ubuntu 16.04 vis GUI?
[16:45] <nacc> abhishek: we want to see if upstream has fixed the issue, so we need, 4.7-rc1 or whatever the latest is
[16:46] <nacc> abhishek: it might be better to test 4.6, i guess, since that's less likely to be unstable
[16:46] <nacc> abhishek: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.6.1-yakkety/ that is
[16:48] <melvster> I seem to have filled my disk, and have truncated a bunch of files, but it still shows 100%
[16:48] <melvster> Filesystem     1K-blocks    Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/xvda1       8115168 7775308         0 100% /
[16:48] <melvster> but the used blocks have gone down
[16:48] <nacc> melvster: have you run `sync`?
[16:48] <melvster> nacc: oh no i didnt try that, i rebooted tho
[16:49] <nacc> melvster: and it's still full on reboot?
[16:49] <melvster> nacc: just tried sync still the same stats, yes full on reboot
[16:49] <melvster> tho the reboot seems to have helped i have tab completion now, whereas before it was failing
[16:50] <melvster> i used truncate -s 0 instead of rm
[16:50] <c0ldburn> hi
[16:50] <melvster> i wonder if that's why
[16:50] <c0ldburn> can someone help me to apply this patch to thier source? https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/33419/
[16:51] <melvster> rm seems to give me new blocks
[16:52] <melvster> darnit i wish i had used rm
[16:52] <melvster> history is gone too
[16:54] <nacc> melvster: ah could be, not sure
[16:54] <hid|ninja> no
[16:56] <ryclik> So, I'm trying "tom ALL=(oracle) ALL" in sudoers to sudo as a different user without password, but I'm not seeing any difference at all.
[16:56] <ryclik> Any ideas?
[16:57] <BluesKaj> ryclik, try:  user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[16:58] <ryclik> I'd like to prevent tom from running as _any_ user without a password
[16:58] <ryclik> only as "oracle"
[16:59] <BluesKaj> then  user ALL=(user) NOPASSWD: ALL
[17:02] <ryclik> Yeah that's the one. I mistyped it sorry lol. Didn't work for some reason. But "%sudo ALL=(user) NOPASSWD: ALL" does.. so I'll stick with that
[17:02] <BluesKaj> ryclik,  ok good
[17:03] <ryclik> Now they both work. I've been hacking at this for an hour. /facepalm
[17:03] <BluesKaj> heh
[17:03] <ryclik> Thanks
[17:04] <abhishek> how to I download this http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.6.1-yakkety/ from terminal wget just downloads the index.html
[17:05] <Randomness> the command (sudo sh -c 'printf "[SeatDefaults]\nallow-guest=false\n" >/usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-no-guest.conf') explained on https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/shell-guest-session.html does not seem to work. help is appreciated!
[17:05] <nacc> abhishek: you'd d/l the .deb file itself -- if you can wait a few minutes, i'm asking about the xenial publishes
[17:06] <abhishek> yeah, ofcourse I am waiting.
[17:08] <nacc> abhishek: ack, thanks -- i only worry a bit about possibly the yakkety .deb dependencies not being right for xenial
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[17:14] <nicomachus> so quick...
[17:15] <Gallomimia> Jordan_U: Winner!
[17:15] <Gallomimia> sorry k1l_ too slow. maybe next time :/
[17:16] <Dewin> so... I wonder how broken my VM install will be when upgrade-time rolls around if I have ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-server uninstalled.  I was trying to strip down a VM to eliminate a lot of common packages that a VM really doesn't need, like things for wireless drivers, dosfstools, ntfs-3g, etc.
[17:16] <reisio> Dewin: being in a VM, etc.... :p
[17:18] <Gallomimia> abhishek: i won't be much help, but it's very possible to use the package manager to change to newer kernels from the next version of ubuntu. i forget how tho sorry
[17:18] <Gallomimia> !kernel
[17:18] <Gallomimia> hmmmmm....
[17:18] <Gallomimia> the bot does have a snippet on how to do that
[17:18] <Dewin> reisio: Well, the package description for the ubuntu-* packages include "It is also used to help ensure proper upgrades, so it is recommended that it not be removed".  But there's no meta package for "ubuntu server running in a VM"  (ubuntu-virt-server is for a ubuntu server -hosting- VMs)
[17:19] <JoeandJoe> Hi
[17:19] <Gallomimia> hello
[17:19] <reisio> Dewin: right, that'd be just plain server
[17:21] <Dewin> which, again, includes a lot of things that are frequently unnecessary in a VM.
[17:22] <reisio> Dewin: yes, because it's an OS designed for the masses, not a single person
[17:22] <ArabicSoap> People I have a strange issue I need help with. I have 30 torrents on transmission and my computer crashed. I have access to the HDD, how can I recover the torrents? I added them to transmission through magnet links.
[17:23] <nacc> abhishek: i'll ping you as soon as i find out the answer...
[17:24] <Dewin> reisio: It's more that I wish there was an additional meta-package targeted towards virtual servers.  But meh.
[17:24] <Gallomimia> ArabicSoap: it's been some time since i used torrents, and not that familiar with magnet links, but doesn't it download the torrent as a file when you use them? if so, they should be in transmission's torrent directory
[17:24] <reisio> Dewin: from the guest side, there's no distinction, is all
[17:24] <reisio> Dewin: so there's no need
[17:25] <ArabicSoap> Gallomimia: how can I reach transmission's torrent directory?
[17:25] <Gallomimia> well, you either set it, or its the default one. go looking
[17:25] <effbiai> hi, has ubuntu for phone been ported to the meizu pro 6 or only pro 5?
[17:25] <Gallomimia> ArabicSoap: you might also search for the word torrent in your filesystem
[17:26] <reisio> effbiai: think the #ubuntu-touch channel/topic has that info
[17:26] <effbiai> thx
[17:26] <Gallomimia> ArabicSoap: am i to understand the computer crashed as in... no longer working? can't fix that and just have it run again?
[17:27] <Dewin> reisio: Except a guest has no use for a lot of what the standard tools have (guests typically are unaware of wireless cards on the host), but does have a need for things llike linux-virtual, linux-tools-virtual, etc. which aren't part of the standard install
[17:27] <ArabicSoap> Gallomimia: I installed Ubuntu server on an SD card and someone
[17:27] <reisio> Dewin: except the VM emulates all that, so it's the same
[17:28] <reisio> that's the whole point of such VM systems
[17:28] <ArabicSoap> Gallomimia: and somehow it changed my BIOD and now Ubuntu will not boot
[17:28] <reisio> to pretend being a normal computer
[17:28] <ArabicSoap> Gallomimia: so I am accessing it through the Ubuntu live demo just to recover the torrent files.
[17:28] <Gallomimia> ah. the .torrent files are likely on the SD card under the user's home directory
[17:30] <ArabicSoap> I cannot find .torrent in the home folder. I have hidden files showing.
[17:30] <reisio> ArabicSoap: find . -iname '*transmission*'
[17:30] <reisio> probably be ~/.transmission/ or ~/.config/transmission/
[17:31] <reisio> although you might need to check the config (in one of those dirs, likely) to find the final data storage path
[17:31] <Dewin> reisio: VMs typically don't emulate wireless cards; to the VM it's an Ethernet card of some flavor.  Some of the tools are necessary for guest integration as well.  And in most virtual environments, you wouldn't be using LVM2 or similar within the guest to handle a case of expanding a disk -- you'd be expanding the vhd on the host and then growing the partition on the guest.  Likewise, you wouldn't have RAID on the guest, you'd leave that to the host.
[17:31] <Dewin> There are some exceptions to all of these of course, but that the relevant packages probably shouldn't be hard dependencies.  (Maybe "recommends")
[17:31] <reisio> right, because desktops don't typically have wireless
[17:31] <reisio> but sometimes they have
[17:31] <reisio> silly discussion
[17:31] <ArabicSoap> reisio: how can I accesses restricted files like .config? It says I do not have permission.
[17:31] <reisio> you can make the install whatever you want, anyway
[17:32] <reisio> ArabicSoap: from what command?
[17:32] <ArabicSoap> GUI
[17:32] <RobertDupont> hello guys
[17:32] <RobertDupont> I found a bug in an iptables modules
[17:33] <RobertDupont> which package should I report the bug to?
[17:33] <noahmg123> Sublime doesn't come to the front when I alt tab
[17:33] <reisio> RobertDupont: mmm... iptables?
[17:34] <RobertDupont> are you sure? It is inserting the rule fine but it is failing matching the rule
[17:34] <RobertDupont> (on 16.04; it works fine on 14.04)
[17:35] <Dewin> reisio: I can make the install whatever I want, yes, but I'm concerned about how it handles during future release upgrades (considering the description of the ubuntu-standard packages)
[17:35] <reisio> I doubt any of those packages matter
[17:36] <reisio> all the stuff you have to rely upon is in the system (Debian) before Ubuntu adds anything
[17:41] <FroMaster> How can I install an older package when it's not listed when I do 'apt-cache policy libcurl4-openssl-dev'?
[17:42] <ArabicSoap> I am trying to access the .config file through terminal but says permission denied. How can I access it? I my computer's old sumo password.
[17:43] <Jordan_U> ArabicSoap What is the exact command you used to try to edit the ".config" file?
[17:44] <ArabicSoap> Jordan_U: not edit, access, I use cd .config
[17:46] <arfanjulianto_> helloo..
[17:46] <Sbur> Ubuntu studio isn't responding.  Here's my situation.  Ubuntu Studio 15.10.  Network disabled, why?  Can get GUI only with "sudo startx", but nothing works.  I tried to open the menu .... something about XML problem.  During boot, message about failure to boot kernel
[17:46] <Sbur> What can I do?
[17:47] <FroMaster> I'm connecting to a 3rd party webservice that hasn't upgraded their openssl library yet and I'm stuck trying to get my Ubuntu 14.04 to connect. I'm trying to downgrade the openssl package but the old package doesn't seem to be in the apt-cache? How can I find and install the previous version?
[17:47] <Doyle> Hey, when you have an auth log with entries like 'Accepted publickey for foo from <IP_ADDRESS> port 42519 ssh2', is there a way to know which key from the authorized_keys file was used?
[17:48] <ArabicSoap> Jordan_U: when I use cd .config I get access denied, I knew my old computer's sumo password. How can I get access?
[17:48] <StNicolas> Ubuntu Studio 15.10.  Network disabled - how? why? Only able to get GUI via "sudo startx", but nothing works. Also, during boot, message about not booting kernel (FAILURE)  What to do?
[17:49] <StNicolas> I've tried "sudo dpkg --configure -a", but nothing changed.
[17:52] <BluesKaj> StNicolas, sudo apt -f install , perhaps ?
[17:54] <StNicolas> BluesKaj: I will try anything.  But to do anything, I need to shut down this other distro.  But how do Irecover the network?
[17:54] <stangeland> hi. i am struggeling to even get started installing ubuntu 16.04. Whats uåp with that? Did they intenitionally make ubuntu installation more annoying? I get: "missing parameter in configuration file. keyword: path"  when i try to boot. i tried writing help > enter > enter which makes it just boot the live menu...but i dont want live ubuntu...i want to install ubuntu...why is it so hard to just install ubuntu?
[17:54] <StNicolas> BluesKaj: Because "lshw -C network" tells me that the network is disabled
[17:55] <EriC^^> stangeland: in the live ubuntu choose to install from the desktop
[17:55] <Mordoc_Mystery> stangeland, EriC^^ has you covered here. Install from the Live session.
[17:55] <BluesKaj> StNicolas, sudo systemctl enable network manager , then sudo systenctl restart network-manager
[17:55] <stangeland> EriC^^, but i dont even know how to log into live menu. i tried no password//no username and i tried ubuntu//ubuntu
[17:55] <EriC^^> stangeland: try ubuntu no password
[17:56] <EriC^^> stangeland: are you using uefi?
[17:56] <stangeland> EriC^^,  ok. i will try that. thanks
[17:56] <stangeland> EriC^^, hmmm not sure about that
[17:56] <viju> You know the pane where other applications are docked? When I launch any application then the icon shows there and then after sometimes disappears. Then it reappears when the application is fully launched.
[17:56] <stangeland> EriC^^, how can i know?
[17:56] <viju> Does anyone know why it happens?
[17:56] <stangeland> EriC^^, its a lenovo x1 carbon gen 2
[17:56] <EriC^^> stangeland: nevermind
[17:57] <EriC^^> stangeland: you don't get any sort of menu at the start?
[17:57] <EriC^^> stangeland: you should probably checksum the iso if you haven't or run an integrity check
[17:57] <stangeland> nope...well i can enter bios of course...and if i dont have my startup usb i get grub loader from my current ubuntu 14.04
[17:58] <stangeland> EriC^^, but i will try logging into the live session and install from there. thanks
[18:04] <drellok> hi guys, I am trying to install Ubuntu 16.04 as KVM guest.. the installation goes fine, however after I reboot I get boot error - press any key message.. seems like GRUB is not detected.. any ideas?
[18:07] <diverdude> EriC^^: i tried username: ubuntu, password: nothing (is in empty) but i got access denied
[18:08] <diverdude> EriC^^: I wonder why its so hard to log into a demo....did the creator intentionally want to scare people away :)
[18:08] <EriC^^> diverdude: it's usually easy, must be a bug
[18:09] <EriC^^> or bad usb/iso
[18:09] <EriC^^> did you checksum the iso? you sure of the usb/port?
[18:09] <diverdude> EriC^^: but why would a bad iso make an error where i cannot log in.... i mean if it was an error on the iso, surely it would not even want to boot or anything
[18:10] <Bernzel> Hey. I just started this software "Ext2Explore" and I can view my hdd from when I ran Ubuntu. (Im on Win7 now). Anyone know if it's possible to get files from that hdd over to my win7 drive? I read I only have read access in this software
[18:10] <OerHeks> diverdude, are you on ubuntu or xubuntu/kubuntu ?
[18:10] <OerHeks> the user name goes by their distro name (e.g: Xubuntu='xubuntu', Lubuntu='lubuntu', etc)
[18:11] <diverdude> OerHeks: plain old ubuntu 16.04
[18:11] <ioria> diverdude, it'a problem i had only with Startup Disk Creator ... http://www.jeffduckett.com/blog/571b969a37d68c8a76c71d21/installing-ubuntu-16-04-from-usb.html
[18:11] <OerHeks> "if it was an error on the iso, surely it would not even want to boot or anything" is not true
[18:12] <OerHeks> check the iso with md5sum
[18:12] <google77> hi guys...
[18:13] <JoeandJoe> hi
[18:13] <google77> on which chatroom and when can I usually find MIchael Hall?
[18:13] <StNicolas> BluesKaj: .from "sudo" until "manager"?
[18:14] <teward> google77: we don't track people's movements sorry
[18:15] <diverdude> EriC^^: where do i see what the md5sum should be?
[18:15] <EriC^^> !hashes | diverdude
[18:15] <BluesKaj> StNicolas, sorry sudo systemctl enable network-manager, then, sudo sytemctl restart network-manager
[18:15] <google77> teward I know but he is the Canonical engineer that I need ATM.
[18:15] <StNicolas> BluesKaj:  I understand that.  I mean the whole thing each time?  (once with enable, the other with "restart"
[18:15] <StNicolas> )
[18:16] <teward> google77: you can check their profile on Launchpad, see if they post their username, then try and PM them
[18:16] <teward> best I can recommend since we don't track people
[18:16] <teward> (not our job)
[18:16] <BluesKaj> StNicolas, yes run the commands separately
[18:16] <StNicolas> BluesKaj: Thx ... will try that
[18:16] <StNicolas> Bye
[18:16] <diverdude> ok yes,....i have now verified that the md5 matches. ie. the iso is correct!!
[18:16] <google77> teward, i have seen Mr. Hall usually use mhall as his nick.
[18:17] <google77> Maybe I should just contact him over Google+
[18:17] <teward> google77: you can check their profile on Launchpad, see if they post their username, then try and PM them; best I can suggest.
[18:17] <teward> google77: Really nothing else we can do sorry
[18:17] <google77> fine
[18:18] <diverdude> so how do i log into ubuntu 16.04 live? (my iso is correct) what username//password is usable? Or how do i install
[18:18] <OerHeks> diverdude, normally you don't login to the live iso.
[18:18] <diverdude> meh i just wanted to install ubuntu :((( i had hoped this would be done in half hour or so...ive already spent more then 1.5 hours and gone nowhere
[18:19] <OerHeks> diverdude, and before choosing live, you can choose install too .. so i wonder
[18:19] <diverdude> OerHeks: ok, but how do i do that?
[18:19] <diverdude> OerHeks: i dont get to choose anything anywhere....i just get an error...like this guy here describes: http://www.jeffduckett.com/blog/571b969a37d68c8a76c71d21/installing-ubuntu-16-04-from-usb.html
[18:20] <diverdude> OerHeks: so from that error i have only managed to get to the live screen.....i actually dont care about any live...i just want to wipe the disk and install 16.04
[18:21] <mhall119> google77: I'm mhall119 pretty much everywhere :)
[18:22] <diverdude> hm...maybe this is the time where i try to give fedora a shot instead :/
[18:22] <mhall119> and on freenode you can use "/whois mhall119" to find me :)
[18:22] <nacc> diverdude: OerHeks: it appears to be, as mentioned on that site, a well-documented bug in Ubuntu's usb-creator: LP: #1325801
[18:22] <nacc> there were 105 days for anyone to test the trusty or precise versions, no one did, so they were deleted
[18:23] <diverdude> nacc: yeah...but there is no description of how to login to the live session or how to get the install session....it just states everywhere how to get to live login splash screen and thats it
[18:23] <nacc> diverdude: in the meanwhile, there is a comment that says any other usb creator works: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[18:27] <ioria> diverdude, or you can try the Actionparsnip solution https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/265207
[18:28] <nacc> diverdude: sorry you hit that bug, it's annoying, i totally get it
[18:30] <user32015> How do I properly insert my penis into an ethernet port?
[18:30] <JoeandJoe> is Ubuntu-Mate desktop written in GTK/C or GTK/Python?
[18:30] <diverdude> nacc: i actually did try the CTRL+ALT+F1 trick....but it also wants username//password :(
[18:31] <nacc> diverdude: was that meant for ioria ?
[18:31] <JoeandJoe> I need the big picture in order to learn necessary things to work on it
[18:32] <ioria> diverdude, try ubuntu   as username  and don't insert  passwd
[18:32] <diverdude> ioria: login incorrect
[18:33] <JoeandJoe> ioria, try wr init=/bin/bash at the end of linux kernel statements in the grub
[18:33] <JoeandJoe> This is gonna log in as a root
[18:33] <JoeandJoe> then you can change the password
[18:34] <diverdude> ioria: could it be something else?
[18:34] <nacc> JoeandJoe: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate says C and python...
[18:34] <ioria> diverdude,   no...
[18:34] <nacc> JoeandJoe: don't exactly know what you mean by "Ubuntu-Mate desktop" as that's not a monolithic object, I expect
[18:35] <diverdude> hm...allright guys...thx for yer help. Im gonna go for fedora instead....i dont much like the unity interface anyway :/ Its a pity...ubuntu used to be a pretty good distro
[18:35] <ioria> diverdude,   the quick solution is rebuild the usb media with something else than StartUp disk Creator ...
[18:35] <ioria> diverdude,   on linux dd, on windows pendrivelinux
[18:36] <guest3456_> what do i do if the apt-get version of the package is outdated and i need a newer one ?
[18:36] <JoeandJoe> https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/339
[18:37] <nacc> !latest | guest3456_
[18:38] <guest3456_> hrm
[18:38] <nacc> guest3456_: define 'outdated'
[18:38] <guest3456_> i plan on doing some web dev with Trellis which is a wordpress deployer
[18:38] <guest3456_> it requires 'ansible' <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:39] <guest3456_> synaptic says it only has <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:39] <no_gravity> Hello! I wonder if my avconv command is good. Its suuuper slow: avconv -i in.mp4 -f mp3 -ab 160k -ar 44100 -ac 2 out.mp3
[18:39] <no_gravity> Isnt there an mp3 inside the mp4 anyhow? Couldnt avconv just copy that without conversion?
[18:40] <guest3456_> nacc: i guess i need to use some PPA thingy: http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/intro_installation.html#latest-releases-via-apt-ubuntu
[18:41] <anonymous_> hi
[18:41] <nacc> guest3456_: well, <IP_ADDRESS> is only in yakkety, which isn't released yet ...
[18:42] <JoeandJoe> It's not an object, what?
[18:42] <nacc> guest3456_: but note that if you use a ppa, you go outside ubunut-proper support
[18:42] <JoeandJoe> plese repeat this message
[18:42] <nacc> JoeandJoe: was that directed at me?
[18:43] <nacc> JoeandJoe: "Ubuntu-Mate desktop" isn't one thing, it's a set of packages, I assume.
[18:43] <JoeandJoe> I don't even know who wrote it. xD
[18:43] <nacc> JoeandJoe: i just provided you a link to that information
[18:43] <guest3456_> nacc: i dont know what yakkety is, but this page says the latest is 2.1
[18:43] <guest3456_> http://releases.ansible.com/ansible/
[18:43] <JoeandJoe> sure, a set.
[18:43] <nacc> guest3456_: yakkety = 16.10
[18:43] <nacc> guest3456_: right, latest upstream versions have little to do with the versions in released version of ubuntu
[18:44] <nacc> guest3456_: that's true in almost all distributions, i'd expect, actually
[18:44] <nacc> JoeandJoe: right, so i don't think they're all written in one language, and that page implies there are some in C and some in Python
[18:44] <guest3456_> right so if apt doesn't have it, then i have to get it from its own website
[18:44] <JoeandJoe> I'm collecting information about de Ubuntu-Mate Desktop. Just to know what to learn
[18:45] <desmond> Cool
[18:45] <desmond> Not sure what I can add to that though.
[18:46] <JoeandJoe> could you give me that page again?
[18:46] <desmond> Wifi security is still 128 bit WEP so that's kinda disappointing. In Ubuntu 16.04
[18:47] <nacc> JoeandJoe: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate
[18:47] <_SLM_> I renamed a file to /.js and it deleted the file... what happened to the file?
[18:47] <nacc> _SLM_: that put it in the / directory as .js
[18:47] <JoeandJoe> thanks!
[18:47] <_SLM_> nope, no directory
[18:47] <nacc> _SLM_: you basically moved it
[18:47] <_SLM_> it's just gone
[18:47] <nacc> _SLM_: how did you rename it?
[18:47] <trism> _SLM_: are you sure it isn't just hidden? ls -a
[18:48] <reisio> _SLM_: what command did you run ('history')
[18:49] <_SLM_> I used Brackets to rename it
[18:50] <_SLM_> Hm, I deleted the parent folder (cause i didn't know what to do with an oddly missing file, had a backup anyway) but when I look in recycle bin I see it's there
[18:50] <_SLM_> like it was never renamed
[18:50] <_SLM_> just hidden yeah '.js'
[18:51] <reisio> leading '.' means hidden
[18:52] <_SLM_> I know that, but Brackets went a little nuts and hid the entire parent directory and when I looked with Nautilus I didn't see it (I think I checked for hidden files, but maybe I didnt) so I was a little shocked
[18:52] <_SLM_> heh..
[18:52] <reisio> adobe software, isn't it?
[18:52] <reisio> sounds like their "quality"
[18:52] <_SLM_> :p
[18:53] <_SLM_> I though I discovered some kind of Ubuntu bug for a second haha
[18:54] <_SLM_> cause I did check with Nautilus too
[18:55] <_SLM_> but probably didn't check good enough
[18:55] <_SLM_> :)
[18:58] <_SLM_> Funny, when I try to replicate the behavior (same files, rename '.js' to '/.js') it now gives me an error "folder/.js already exists"
[18:58] <_SLM_> *"file or directory folder/.js already exists"
[19:01] <reisio> yeah I'd be surprised how well adobe software is tested on Unix systems
[19:01] <reisio> they used to ship their flex sdk with Windows newlines
[19:02] <reisio> not a single shell script included would work until they were fixed
[19:02] <reisio> real amateur hour over there
[19:02] <nacc> heh
[19:03] <jnagro> i have a macbook pro 13" retina early 2015 model. ubuntu 16.04. done some research, tried some stuff, still unable to use my card reader
[19:03] <jnagro> everything else seems to work okay enough.
[19:04] <melleb> Hi all, for some reason my sound stopped working after rebooting... Can't seem to find anything useful from google :(
[19:05] <melleb> If I try to open sound settings, it mentions it is trying to connect to pulse audio
[19:05] <melleb> If I try `pacmd`, I get an error message, deamon not responding
[19:05] <melleb> Could anyone point me in the right direction?
[19:06] <ioria> jnagro, get a usb adapter, if i may :þ
[19:07] <BluesKaj> melleb, which audio chip ?
[19:08] <melleb> BluesKaj: Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
[19:08] <melleb> BluesKaj: At least that's what I get from lspci -v | grep audio ;)
[19:10] <jnagro> ioria: aye. and i have one for actual card stuff. but i have a tiny microsd card thing that fits perfectly in, expands my storage options on my mac
[19:10] <jnagro> ioria: wish that worked
[19:11] <ioria> jnagro, don't know if it fits https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1307674
[19:11] <jnagro> ioria: lol i *just* was pasting that link in!
[19:11] <ioria> jnagro, i see
[19:11] <BluesKaj> melleb, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , then you might need to reboot, if thee's no output then the driver loaded properly
[19:11] <jnagro> oh actually, similar one...
[19:12] <jnagro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1531653
[19:12] <ozberk> hi guys I need to add this command to startup (using kde but I got no answers from kubuntu channel) nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }"
[19:12] <jnagro> i am going to try this https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmint/comments/3ydoxs/unable_to_detect_builtin_sd_card_reader/cyyshdd
[19:14] <melleb> BluesKaj: I'll give it a try, thanks
[19:14] <_SLM_> reisio haha :p
[19:14] <jnagro> ioria: well, that is for TLP power mgmt.
[19:15] <ioria> jnagro, ha...
[19:15] <melleb> BluesKaj: `sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel` gives me no output
[19:15] <melleb> BluesKaj: Does that mean I need to reboot?
[19:17] <BluesKaj> melleb, it means your driver loaded without any errors , a reboot might help
[19:17] <melleb> BluesKaj: I'll try again bbl
[19:23] <linux> merhaba
[19:29] <_binbash_> Anyone have a bad day by trying out 4.7-RC1?  Anyone use it with no problems?  Not much feedback on it yet...
[19:31] <ioria> _binbash_, 2016-05-29 18:30
[19:32] <nacc> _binbash_: not really ontopic for this channel
[19:35] <melleb> BluesKaj: After a reboot, I was able to use pacmd, and open the sound settings
[19:35] <melleb> BluesKaj: But after I opened the browser it didn't respond
[19:36] <melleb> BluesKaj: I'll reboot to confirm
[19:36] <melleb> BluesKaj: Just saw that pacmd has a command `play-sample`
[19:36] <melleb> bbl
[19:37] <fishhead2567> can anyone inform me as to whether thunderbolt displays work in ubuntu 14.04 lts?
[19:37] <guest3456_> when does vagrant get updated in ubuntu package manager ?
[19:40] <lolopopo> heloo
[19:40] <lolopopo> i use apparmor, so how do i see using apparmor has anyone entered my PC?
[19:40] <felipe_> boa tarde
[19:40] <alxpa1> What's the latest 32 bit Ubuntu version?
[19:41] <Jordan_U> alxpa1: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS is the latest release of Ubuntu, and is available as either 32 or 64 bit.
[19:42] <alxpa1> I can't find it Jordan_U. Only 64 bit
[19:45] <genii> alxpa1: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-i386.iso
[19:46] <alxpa1> Cheers genii:
[19:49] <leoknudsen> is there a way to install the new version of mysql server: 5.7.* without using following command : sudo dpkg -i mysql-apt-config_0.3.2-1ubuntu14.04_all.deb ??
[19:49] <nacc> leoknudsen: in which version of ubuntu? 14.04?
[19:50] <leoknudsen> yep
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> !info mysql-server trusty
[19:50] <nacc> leoknudsen: well, 5.7 isn't supported in 14.04, so not officially, no.
[19:50] <nacc> leoknudsen: whatever .deb you are referring to is not an official one that i can see?
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> leoknudsen  xenial has 5.7
[19:51] <leoknudsen> i can use this command to get the .deb file : wget http://dev.mysql.com/get/mysql-apt-config_0.3.2-1ubuntu14.04_all.deb
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> leoknudsen  and xenial is also lts
[19:51] <nacc> leoknudsen: then you're operating outside of ubuntu and should contact mysql for support -- that's not an ubuntu package
[19:52] <leoknudsen> okay but im trying to integrate it with CircleCI's Ubuntu builds and my project that i run my build under my database has usage of the new JSON datatype wich not are supported for version 5.6
[19:52] <leoknudsen> @nacc: i see
[19:53] <nacc> leoknudsen: the 14.04 supported version of mysql-server (ubuntu supported) is 5.5.49-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> (technically there are others in the release pocket, that's the latest in updates)
[19:56] <leoknudsen> is there anywhere i can see versions that supports json datatype?
[19:57] <nacc> it seems to only have been aded in 5.7.8?
[19:57] <narfnarf> how can I configure an ubuntu desktop installation to only boot into console?
[19:57] <leoknudsen> a shame..
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> !text| narfnarf
[19:58] <nacc> leoknudsen: which is in xenial
[19:58] <nacc> leoknudsen: (well, 5.7.11 is)
[19:58] <narfnarf> MonkeyDust: thanks
[19:58] <leoknudsen> but the highest version of ubuntu is 14.04 for CircleCi builds atm
[19:59] <nacc> leoknudsen: i don't know what CircleCI is? is that an ubuntu package?
[19:59] <nacc> leoknudsen: that sounds like  CircleCI problem :)
[19:59] <reisio> :D
[19:59] <leoknudsen> nacc: its a continuous integration testing system :)
[19:59] <reisio> the less well made a package is, the longer it takes to update
[19:59] <nacc> leoknudsen: i'm not trying to be antagonistic, but trying to be clear on what can be supported here (and generally)
[20:00] <leoknudsen> nacc: sure sure: i have tried to clear my problem with a circleci employee but trying to hear your guys on the channel :)
[20:01] <nacc> leoknudsen: ugh, their image isn't even really ubuntu
[20:01] <nacc> for instance, it mentions that php7 is pre-installed
[20:01] <nacc> leoknudsen: that isn't available for trusty from ubuntu
[20:02] <nacc> leoknudsen: /me walks away from it :)
[20:02] <leoknudsen> hehe :) i know they do anyways thanks :)
[20:03] <n1ghtmar3> exit
[20:10] <narfnarf> MonkeyDust: I don’t think that help link still covers text mode…
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> narfnarf  depending on how fanatic you are: gdm contains text login, wheras lightdm does not
[20:16] <zippe> hi, I am running trusty.  is there a problem with the repositories?  I run the command apt-get update and I get the error: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'restricted/source/Sources' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) .  Thanks!!
[20:16] <k1l_> zippe: "(Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) "
[20:17] <narfnarf> MonkeyDust: I dimly remember something about init levels from my debian experiences from the last century… that no longer in use?
[20:17] <k1l_> zippe: did you change your sources.list file?
[20:17] <narfnarf> hmm, decade, not century
[20:17] <arooni> i have ubuntu 14.04 running on my laptop;  i had booted it up and it was running ok but looked like lightdm hadnt fully loaded; so i restarted the laptop and now its stuck with the ubuntu ..... dots just turning red/white.  should i do something?  or turn it off and try turning on again?
[20:18] <zippe> k1l_: what should I do?
[20:18] <lerner> my nikon d3300 camera is not recognized by xubuntu 16.04, lspci doesnt list it...
[20:18] <k1l_> zippe: yes or no?  well look at the sources.list and at the changes you did.
[20:19] <k1l_> zippe: if you are unsure show the whole source.list file in a pastebin so people in here can have a look
[20:19] <zippe> k1l_: I have not made any changes to the file
[20:19] <reisio> lerner: doesn't have a removeable card?
[20:19] <Randomness> got a brand new HP ProBook 430 G3, installed ubuntu 16.04 LTS on it. install went smoothly, have configured to my liking, but when i open a few tabs (5-10) in firefox the fan starts making "a wavy sound", almost as if the rpm increases to x and then decreases to x/2, then increases to x, and repeat for 20-30 seconds, before it stops. if i open another 5 tabs it happens again. is it strange that the fan starts at just 5 tabs? shou
[20:19] <Randomness> sistency?
[20:20] <reisio> lerner: lspci is for pci things, anyway; cameras not usually being one of them
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> narfnarf  yes, try sudo init 3 ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/86483/how-can-i-see-or-change-default-run-level
[20:20] <reisio> Randomness: incredibly long msg cut off at 'tabs? sho|'
[20:20] <k1l_> lerner: i bet its connected on usb? so use lsusb
[20:20] <narfnarf> MonkeyDust: d’oh. thanks again.
[20:21] <lerner> reisio, k1l_ this is what I get if I insert the memory card in the slot (laptop): http://paste.ubuntu.com/16930200/
[20:21] <Bashing-om> !sysrq | arooni
[20:21] <user2635> Anyone else find the Ubuntu Software store slow?
[20:21] <k1l_> narfnarf: runlevels are not really used anymore.
[20:21] <user2635> It just stays on the loading screen
[20:21] <zippe> kl1_: sorry been many years since I have used irc.  How do I pastebin?
[20:21] <Randomness> reisio : rest: should i be worried about the ran rpm inconsistency?
[20:21] <user2635> I'm updating some programs in the background
[20:21] <reisio> lerner: did you run that command manually?
[20:21] <user2635> but can no longer see how they are doing
[20:22] <lerner> reisio, what command? lspci? yes
[20:22] <reisio> lerner: no, 'mount'
[20:22] <k1l_> zippe: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:22] <lerner> reisio, no...
[20:22] <arooni> Bashing-om i rebooted it before i saw your message; and it booted fine this time.  but anything i should check now that its 'working' ?
[20:22] <reisio> Randomness: rpm, what?
[20:22] <reisio> lerner: so where do you get that error msg?
[20:22] <lerner> do I have to insert the card and then from cli "sudo mount"?
[20:22] <k1l_> lerner: so its not exfat on that card.
[20:23] <reisio> lerner: can you answer questions with answers instead of questions?
[20:23] <lerner> reisio, thunar: an icon appears, I click on it and that message appears
[20:23] <k1l_> lerner: wait, make sure  exfat-fuse exfat-utils are installed
[20:23] <Randomness> reisio: rounds per minute. not sure of the hw technical term.
[20:23] <reisio> lerner: okay; what version of Ubuntu is this?
[20:23] <reisio> Randomness: oh, heh
[20:23] <zippe> k1l_: http://termbin.com/zh4y
[20:23] <lerner> reisio, no if I dont understand the question
[20:23] <reisio> Randomness: I wouldn't be worried about fans going, no
[20:23] <lerner> 16.04
[20:24] <reisio> lerner: yeah, what k1l_ should sort you out
[20:24] <reisio> exfat is a fairly exotic FS; I don't really blame them for not including it by default
[20:24] <Bashing-om> arooni: I am often paranoid when it comes to my file system . In the event of doubt .. I always run a file system check . The means depends on the release. What release are you running ?
[20:24] <reisio> once you have the FS support, using that card will be simplest
[20:25] <arooni> Bashing-om 14.04
[20:25] <lerner> reisio, is this one of these things companies (nikon) do , not to pay for using fat32?
[20:25] <user2635> Anyone else find the Ubuntu Software store slow? It just stays on the loading screen, so I can't see how my program updates are going...
[20:25] <reisio> lerner: no
[20:25] <arooni> Bashing-om so what should i run ; fsck ?
[20:25] <reisio> lerner: it's something they do assuming you'll using the provided win32 software with Windows
[20:25] <arooni> i thought i couldn't run it when the drive was mounted
[20:25] <lerner> ehehehehehehe :D
[20:25] <reisio> lerner: exfat is actually superior to plain fat, but unfortunately less common/ly supported
[20:26] <BlenderPro> I configured my ubuntu server with a static entry for eth0 as follows: http://paste.debian.net/713571/ but after reboot I still can not ping a pingable device on the same network I tried ifup and down nothing, also tried ifconfig eth0 down and up
[20:26] <reisio> lerner: which is why it's not even bothered to be supported by default
[20:26] <reisio> it's also Microsofty of origin, so :p
[20:26] <k1l_> zippe: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:26] <reisio> use* the provided, whoops
[20:27] <narfnarf> k1l_: what’s the replacement for runlevels/init X?
[20:27] <Bashing-om> arooni: in terminal execute ' sudo touch /forcefsck ; sudo shutdown -r now '. To set the system to check the files at next boot .. the -r reboots the system to do that file check .
[20:27] <zippe> k1l_: no files in the directory
[20:27] <lerner> reisio, installed: should I expect that the card is now recognized, if I connect the camera to the laptop? or will it only work if I extract the memory card and insert it in my laptop?
[20:27] <k1l_> zippe: hmm
[20:27] <reisio> lerner: take the card out, put it back in, try again from file manager
[20:27] <arooni> Bashing-om so the files will be checked; but also automatically repaired ?  is it possible for to happen at startup (i have a separate / and /home partition on the same drive if that matters)
[20:27] <reisio> lerner: it might work from cable, too, but I don't know why you'd put yourself through that
[20:28] <lerner> reisio, it would be easier... shorter
[20:28] <reisio> if you say so
[20:29] <lerner> reisio, 1st dslr here and thanks!!! it worked!!! automatically mounted!!!!
[20:29] <zippe> k1l_: is there a default of sources.list that I could use, or just a very basic one?
[20:29] <reisio> mm, slr
[20:29] <k1l_> zippe: "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*"  then "sudo apt-get autoclean" then try again with "sudo apt update"
[20:30] <lerner> reisio, k1l_ I assume if I format the memory card to ext4 it wont be recognized by the camera... am I wrong?
[20:30] <k1l_> lerner: that will break it for the camera, yes
[20:30] <reisio> lerner: almost certainly will not be recognized
[20:30] <reisio> the specific directory structure and filenames may even be required for your camera to grok it
[20:32] <lerner> reisio, k1l_ can you advice me on another channel or privately about this? my d3300 is small, it doesnt fit my hand and its a bit uncomfortable, are there any bigger nikons?
[20:32] <zippe> k1l_: still the same error
[20:32] <zippe> k1l_: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'restricted/source/Sources' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[20:32] <k1l_> zippe: is it a desktop install?
[20:33] <reisio> lerner: I'm sure there's a channel for that
[20:33] <reisio> lerner: /msg alis list *photog*
[20:33] <k1l_> lerner: sorry, not a camera guy.
[20:33] <Pici> lerner: iirc, #photogeeks is populated
[20:33] <ryanLV> BlenderPro, your interfaces file doesn't list a default gateway.  are you pinging a device on the same subnet?
[20:34] <lerner> im banned
[20:34] <k1l_> zippe: then open systemsettings > software and updates. then uncheck the "source code" mark there. then reload if asked to when closing.
[20:34] <lerner> apparently
[20:34] <zippe> k1l_: yes desktop install
[20:35] <BlenderPro> ryanLV, yea same subnet and I don't want to connect it to the internet so no gw
[20:35] <Bashing-om> arooni: The /forcefsck will run the check . and if there are problems that it will not deal with at this level it will advise so .
[20:35] <arooni> thanks Bashing-om
[20:36] <reisio> lerner: not likely; are you registered/identified? /msg nickserv help register; /msg nickserv help identify
[20:36] <lerner> jesus christ
[20:36] <zippe> k1l_: error: W:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'restricted/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[20:36] <zippe> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead
[20:37] <guest295> hi
[20:38] <Bashing-om> guest295: Hello, your ubuntu issue ?
[20:38] <guest295> xubuntu 16.04 i changed default boot to 2 instead of 0 and ran update grub but now it does not boot any more.
[20:40] <Bashing-om> guest295: Pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg file . See if we can see an error there .
[20:40] <arooni> Bashing-om that thing finished; are results logged somewhere
[20:40] <zippe> k1l_: still getting the same error after unchecking the source option
[20:41] <guest295> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/uqKs0Pbj
[20:42] <Bashing-om> arooni: Not by default .. might see what is in the log files located in the  /var/log/fsck/ directory .
[20:42] <Bashing-om> guest295: reading . Be a while .
[20:42] <guest295> i already tried to change line 19 to 0 again temporarily but i am not able to set boot partition to readwrite
[20:43] <zippe> k1l_: I do not like to have to do this, but I think I will try and just re-install ubuntu (no idea why this error is happening)
[20:43] <k1l_> zippe: wait
[20:44] <ryanLV> BlenderPro, does everything look good if you do 'ifconfig eth0'?  when you ping the other host, do your pings just timeout or is any kind of error returned?  can you ping yourself?
[20:44] <zippe> k1l_: ok
[20:46] <k1l_> zippe: please uncheck the "restricted" in the system settings > updates dialoge
[20:46] <neq5> hey maybe anyone can help me, my terminal stopped playing bell ;/
[20:46] <guest295> Bashing-om, will try something - will be back in just a moment...
[20:47] <zippe> k1l_: already done that (after your source suggestion) - still the same
[20:47] <k1l_> cant be the same error.
[20:49] <zippe> k1l_: W:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'universe/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[20:49] <zippe> , W:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:49] <zippe> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:49] <zippe> k1l_: this was the error
[20:50] <__raven_> Bashing-om: i am guest from a few minutes ago
[20:50] <neq5> anyone could help me with terminal bell?
[20:50] <BlenderPro> ryanLV, yea I can ping myself but the problem was I didn't have the cable connected to the switch
[20:51] <reisio> neq5: to be used how?
[20:51] <__raven_> it might be possible grub was installed all the time on another disk which is not isntalled any more. how to check if there is a bootloader on the device i suggest it to be and how to otherwise install it?
[20:52] <k1l_> zippe: ok, can you change the servers to the main servers in the dropdown menue there?
[20:52] <lordcirth> __raven_, you have an ubuntu install, but no bootloader?  chroot in and install grub
[20:52] <neq5> reisio: i want it to bell when someone mesgs me on irssi for example. alsamixer checked, audible bell in setting enabled,dunno what to do... it worked a rebootago
[20:52] <neq5> a reboot ago
[20:53] <zippe> k1l_: I tried that, to go from the us mirror to the main, and that is what it is currently set to
[20:53] <Bashing-om> __raven_: Not making sense to me .. why both f19cd263-67c9-4c82-8eee-6025e9eee7de AND bb0737c6-62d9-4e49-8935-73677b23545e as booting UUIDs ?? This looks above my skill level .
[20:53] <k1l_> zippe: ok.
[20:53] <__raven_> lordcirth: i think that would cause headace due to the root partition is completely encrypted
[20:53] <reisio> neq5: http://pookey.co.uk/wordpress/archives/4-irssi-making-it-beep-when-your-nick-is-mentioned ?
[20:54] <simon__> Is there any way to get the tablet version of Ubuntu for a convertible laptop?
[20:54] <simon__> The touch support is not too good in normal Ubuntu... :)
[20:54] <k1l_> zippe: what is "dpkg --print-architecture"
[20:54] <zippe> k1l_: amd64
[20:55] <k1l_> zippe: and dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[20:55] <__raven_> Bashing-om: i do not know. i wiped a drive yesterday and on the same session i changed grub to option 2. some minutes ago i was able to change grub.cfg temporarily back to 0 but i got a "pci error" i do not know what to think about that
[20:55] <neq5> reisio: didn't help, it's a gnome-terminal issue
[20:55] <Bashing-om> __raven_: What returns ' sudo blkid ' see if we can identify that strange UUID .
[20:55] <zippe> i386
[20:55] <zippe> k1l_: i386
[20:55] <k1l_> zippe: ok, that is right too
[20:56] <__raven_> Bashing-om: the ext2 boot partition should be bb0737c6-.......
[20:56] <reisio> neq5: I doubt it
[20:56] <neq5> ok i solved problem
[20:56] <neq5> i missed one setting in alsa
[20:56] <neq5> thank you
[20:56] <neq5> bye
[20:56] <neq5> ;)
[20:56] <EmeraldExplorer> Is it possible to create a symlink such that all new files in the folder linked to will appear in all other links?
[20:57] <Bashing-om> __raven_: K then what is 19cd263-67c9-4c82-8eee-6025e9eee7de and why is the system set to boot it ?
[20:58] <genii> EmeraldExplorer: Please clarify what you are asking
[20:58] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: yeah, didn't make sense
[20:58] <simon__> EmeraldExplorer: That is what symlinks do, isn't it? :)
[20:58] <ryanLV> EmeraldExplorer, that sounds like the default behavior of a symlink
[20:58] <simon__> ^^
[20:58] <__raven_> Bashing-om: ok this uuid is not shown there so i suggest this was on the wiped disk all the time
[20:58] <EmeraldExplorer> genii: ok so let me say I have myfolder. Is it possible to symlink an entire folder (myfolder) so that all the links will update all files in that folder if a new file is added to myfolder
[20:59] <__raven_> can i simply change the uuid?
[20:59] <k1l_> zippe: "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -rf"  again. then "sudo apt update"
[20:59] <simon__> EmeraldExplorer: Which "all the links"? You only created one, didn't you?
[21:00] <reisio> __raven_: change the label instead
[21:00] <simon__> Does anybody know a good high-level explanation of legacy bios and uefi? I have no clue how to fix or even debug boot problems on modern machines....
[21:00] <__raven_> ok where to change what?
[21:00] <reisio> simon__: start by stating the problem
[21:00] <Bashing-om> __raven_: OK .. so it no longer exists // have you ran ' sudo update-grub ' to rebuild the config file with current conditions ? - Assumming you can boot onto the system as is !
[21:00] <zippe> k1l_: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'universe/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[21:00] <genii> EmeraldExplorer: Lets say you have folder called A. And you want to make a link to the contents of what is in A but point it at folder B. You just make a link to the folder itself. There will be no links inside of A or B. B will appear to contain everything that is actually in A
[21:01] <zippe> k1l_: error again
[21:01] <EmeraldExplorer> ok genii
[21:01] <zippe> k1l_: the country I live in sometimes censors Internet content, would this effect this?
[21:01] <ArtfulDodger> Would it be possible to use veracrypt to hide an entire operating system?
[21:01] <__raven_> Bashing-om: no i updated grub before ii wiped the other drive
[21:01] <k1l_> zippe: uh, yes thats possible
[21:01] <zippe> k1l_: Zambia is the country
[21:01] <simon__> reisio: I already fixed my problem but only by searching a lot and asking on askubuntu.com and trying random things. I would like to get a basic understanding of how it works to improve that workflow. ;)
[21:03] <Bashing-om> __raven_: Ouch . And .. now we have bad configs ! can you boot into the install ?
[21:03] <ubuntu478> hey, my front panel audio isn't working?
[21:04] <ubuntu478> If I pull out pavucontrol, it doesn't even say I have a headphone jack
[21:04] <__raven_> Bashing-om: i am on a live system right now but i would have no idea how to do a chroot on such an encrypted config
[21:04] <__raven_> s/config/setup
[21:04] <jdeler> hello guys i have registered a vhost on port 3000 locally and how can i start the server
[21:04] <jdeler> i mean the command
[21:04] <jdeler> i am lill new here for apache2 server
[21:05] <Gallomimia> __raven_: it's not so hard. once you get the live system booted, you unencrypt your FS and then do chroot as normal
[21:05] <Gallomimia> cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/stuff target
[21:05] <k1l_> zippe: all errors i found, we tested and ruled out. the sources.list looks good to me, i cant see what could be wrong. so i guess there is network issue.
[21:05] <Gallomimia> or did i mix up the arguments?
[21:07] <zippe> k1l_: ok thanks
[21:07] <alexio> hello, i'm looking to only allow traffic to a particular port. sudo ufw incoming and outgoing set to deny, sudo ufw allow out on tun0, and sudo ufw allow out 1194/udp. how do i get the initial packet sent from my computer to the vpn server to establish the openvpn connection?
[21:07] <theseb> do you have to specify every command you allow sudo to use?
[21:08] <theseb> i've always logged in as root since sudo seemed annoying
[21:08] <theseb> i'd like to be proved wrong
[21:08] <Gallomimia> sudo -i
[21:08] <OerHeks> logged in as root .. really?
[21:08] <theseb> OerHeks: su - to become root then do some commands
[21:09] <Gallomimia> i agree. it sounds unlikely since ubuntu has the root user disabled by default
[21:09] <theseb> OerHeks: so i guess i don't really *log in* as root..just "drop down" to root
[21:09] <OerHeks> oh, that is not logged in as root. you just took sudo priv.
[21:09] <k1l_> theseb: usually you dont need to run so many commands with root priviledges.
[21:09] <Gallomimia> oh, that's a decent way
[21:09] <Gallomimia> sudo -i is another way
[21:09] <Gallomimia> !sudosu
[21:09] <Gallomimia> there's a bot snipped describing the differences i think
[21:09] <ubuntu478> I'm having a really weird audio issue
[21:10] <theseb> Gallomimia: i tried sudo years ago...there was a visudo that was tedious to use
[21:10] <ubuntu478> if I plug my earphones into the mic jack, ubuntu detects them, and plays system sounds through them
[21:10] <theseb> k1l_: perhaps you're right..i could just see what commands i use 90% of time for sudo
[21:10] <ubuntu478> if I plug them into the headphone jack, it doesn't detect them
[21:11] <Gallomimia> ubuntu478: is it on your front panel? perhas you crossed the wires?
[21:11] <k1l_> theseb: if you need a root shell, because you need to run some commmands as root and dont want to use sudo every time (remember it only asks for the pw once) then use sudo -i. but dont use sudo for gui
[21:11] <OerHeks> ubuntu478, seems like your home-build desktop has an error in connections
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu478  do you have normal sound, without headphones? can you plugin external boxes?
[21:12] <Gallomimia> be good to check if your headhpone jack works when you plug a mic into it
[21:12] <OerHeks> ubuntu478, don't say it is a laptop
[21:12] <ubuntu478> lol, its not
[21:12] <Gallomimia> he mentioned "front panel" a few minutes ago
[21:12] <ubuntu478> The tower I bought came with the wiring to the fron panel done
[21:12] <ubuntu478> I just had to plug it into the motherboard
[21:12] <Bashing-om> __raven_: If this is an encruped system - I do not have the knowledge to deal with it .
[21:12] <Gallomimia> doesn't mean they did it right
[21:13] <ubuntu478> oh
[21:13] <jdeler> hello guys i have registered a vhost on port 3000 locally and how can i start the server to get the app run??
[21:13] <__raven_> Bashing-om: i am trying to chroot to it at the moment...
[21:13] <ubuntu478> is there a reason only system sounds work?
[21:13] <Gallomimia> each jack often has its own 3-wire plug, you might have mixed them up?
[21:13] <jdeler> i am lill new here for apache2 server
[21:13] <jdeler> kindly bear my noobishness
[21:13] <Gallomimia> jdeler: #httpd
[21:14] <ubuntu478> Gallomimia: I think the manufacturer might have plugged them in backwards
[21:14] <Gallomimia> oh. this part is distor specific
[21:14] <Gallomimia> ubuntu478: it's possible. got someone new at the factory?
[21:14] <Gallomimia> jdeler: sudo service apache2 start
[21:15] <reisio> simon__: they're black boxes
[21:15] <__raven_> Bashing-om: would grub-install /dev/sda be enough from the chrooted system to make it work again?
[21:15] <Bashing-om> __raven_: K .. once CHange Rooted .. one can then re-install grub .
[21:15] <jdeler> that starts only on port 8000!!!
[21:15] <jdeler> i have another app on 3000
[21:15] <jdeler> i need to start that as well
[21:16] <ubuntu478> Gallomimia: I'm on ubuntu 16.04
[21:16] <Gallomimia> jdeler: they're the same service. if it doesn't start the 3000 one, your vhost config is bad
[21:16] <genii> jdeler: Edit your /etc/apache2/ports.conf file to add more ports
[21:16] <ubuntu478> I can see headphones under the output devices tab
[21:17] <Gallomimia> and that yes. needs to have ports opened
[21:17] <Bashing-om> __raven_: I would try the less invasive ' grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX ' where X is the drive (a,b or c ) is the target .
[21:17] <Gallomimia> __raven_: should be. you might also need a new initrd due to the crypto stuff
[21:18] <ubuntu478> awesome
[21:18] <ubuntu478> I clicked on random stuff
[21:18] <ubuntu478> and it works now
[21:18] <ubuntu478> (although the mic and headphones are switched
[21:18] <__raven_> Bashing-om: this gives me "installing for i386 pc platform. install finished, no error"
[21:18] <ubuntu478> thanks!
[21:19] <__raven_> Gallomimia: how to generate this?
[21:19] <Gallomimia> well, if your grub install worked fine, i think that could be good
[21:19] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: doesn't grub install run the update-initramfs?
[21:20] <Gallomimia> __raven_: that's the name of the tool you use. there's some required options
[21:20] <__raven_> i just wonder about i386 since this is a 64bit system...
[21:20] <Gallomimia> hm.
[21:20] <__raven_> Gallomimia: no i do not think so it was too fast to write new initrd
[21:22] <__raven_> initramfs gave me "could not determine root device from etc fstab"
[21:22] <__raven_> cryptsetup
[21:22] <Gallomimia> well, who's to say if you need a new one. i had to fuss with mine an aweful lot
[21:22] <jdeler> error !!, where will the apache2 server logs sits in ubuntu??
[21:22] <Bashing-om> __raven_: Gallomimia // I do think so .. but as you advised .. will not hurt and cheap insurance to re-create the initrd.img file . ' update-initramfs -u -k <kernel_version> ' .
[21:23] <Gallomimia> update-initramfs -uk $(uname -r)
[21:23] <Gallomimia> is it -r?
[21:23] <cheikh> hi everybody. can somebody tell me how to install graphic driver for amd series
[21:23] <reisio> cheikh: what version of Ubuntu?
[21:24] <cheikh> i am using ubuntu-mate- 16.04..
[21:24] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: __raven_ Agreed ' update-initramfs -vu -k $(uname -r) ' should work .
[21:24] <sacha_> buenas karmelle :D
[21:25] <sacha_> murilo: :D
[21:25] <sacha_> XD
[21:25] <sacha_> jaksjas
[21:25] <sacha_> ya como se configuran los colores de letras en el programa smuxi???
[21:25] <__raven_> Bashing-om Gallomimia what about the cryptsetup warning?
[21:25] <Gallomimia> that's usually a bad thing.
[21:26] <Gallomimia> when i got those warnings i had to create some directories in /tmp
[21:26] <Bashing-om> __raven_: Nope, can not advise .. no encryption experience .
[21:26] <k1l_> !es | sacha_
[21:26] <Gallomimia> er... make sure your crypttab is right
[21:26] <__raven_> hm
[21:26] <Gallomimia> especially the volume name
[21:26] <__raven_> how to?
[21:26] <Gallomimia> /etc/crypttab
[21:26] <Gallomimia> this is foggy for me
[21:27] <sacha_> mmmm me cai
[21:27] <sacha_> algien sabe ayudarme?
[21:27] <sacha_> :'C
[21:27] <Gallomimia> are there any raids or LVM involved?
[21:27] <dax> sacha_: English here, please
[21:27] <sacha_> mmm
[21:27] <k1l_> !es | sacha_
[21:27] <sacha_> sorry
[21:27] <k1l_> !es > sacha_
[21:27] <Gallomimia> sacha_: sorry, no espanol
[21:28] <Gallomimia> spanish speakers that way ->>
[21:28] <__raven_> unfortunately etc crypttab looks correct -.-
[21:28] <reisio> what ta classy way to put that :p
[21:28] <sacha_> nice
[21:28] <sacha_> txs
[21:28] <Gallomimia> well, it helps him very little if we can't understand
[21:28] <sacha_> U_U
[21:28] <sacha_> BB
[21:29] <reisio> we?
[21:29] <reisio> :p
[21:29] <Gallomimia> __raven_: that's what i thought too. mucked with it for 4 days and found the volume name needed to be what the luks header said it would be
[21:29] <Gallomimia> not some variation with _crypt added
[21:30] <__raven_> its sdb2_crypt here
[21:30] <Gallomimia> got the UUID right also?
[21:31] <__raven_> yes
[21:31] <Gallomimia> lsblk should confirm
[21:31] <Gallomimia> hmm.
[21:31] <Gallomimia> and the mount point shows right?
[21:31] <Gallomimia> and finally, between fstab and crypttab does it mount a / ?
[21:31] <__raven_> from chroot or live shell?
[21:31] <Gallomimia> from chroot
[21:32] <Gallomimia> for all intents and purposes we're trying to pretend your system is already booted
[21:32] <guest3456_> when does ubuntu update its packages?
[21:33] <__raven_> from chroot i now see a /dev/sdb with 1 (boot) and 2 (crypt) and a later mounted /dev/mapper/sdb2 (i opened manually)
[21:33] <guest3456_> i'm referencing the last 2 posts in this thread:
[21:33] <guest3456_> https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant/pull/7198
[21:33] <Gallomimia> you mean, the packages in the repo, or the packages on your system?
[21:33] <Bomber4Chats> are there still significant issues with laptops running w/ nVidia cards and ubuntu?
[21:33] <k1l_> guest3456_: for most packages its security and bug patches only.
[21:33] <Bomber4Chats> considering to buy an MSI workstation
[21:33] <guest3456_> k1l_: yea thats clearly a bug
[21:33] <Gallomimia> __raven_: try removing the _crypt from your crypttab
[21:34] <xfceone> if I create bootable ubuntu iso on a usb stick,can I erase the usb? and create bootable with another distro
[21:34] <Gallomimia> Bomber4Chats: i prefer nvidia cards on ubuntu to any other
[21:34] <k1l_> guest3456_: than file a bug report on the launchpad against the ubuntu package
[21:34] <Bomber4Chats> Gallomimia: because of bumblebee?
[21:34] <Gallomimia> what the frack is bumblebee?
[21:34] <Bomber4Chats> nm
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> !info bumblebee
[21:35] <Bomber4Chats> You know of users using MSI laptops and ubuntu?
[21:35] <guest3456_> ok k1l_
[21:35] <Gallomimia> i just install the proprietary drivers from the ubuntu repos. works on my 780Ti and my 320m
[21:35] <k1l_> guest3456_: but vagrant is not a ubuntu package. you will have to talk to the vagrant guys about issues with their packages
[21:35] <__raven_> Gallomimia: no it still complains -.-
[21:35] <guest3456_> well it says the fix has been merged in
[21:35] <__raven_> but it referes to /etc/fstab instead of cryptab?
[21:35] <Bomber4Chats> ths will be a NVIDIA Quadro M2000M
[21:35] <vlt> xfceone: The way I read your question: yes, of course.
[21:35] <k1l_> Bomber4Chats: bumblebee is deprecated on ubuntu. ubuntu uses the official nvidia-prime since some time
[21:35] <xfceone> vlt thanks
[21:36] <vlt> xfceone: There’s nothing written permanently to the usb drive.
[21:36] <Gallomimia> __raven_: well, i think you need a fs in fstab to mount them
[21:36] <Bomber4Chats> k1l_: glad to know. I was reading on some issues I'm having on my current system, it was refering to bumblebee
[21:36] <vlt> xfceone: As in undeletable.
[21:36] <Bomber4Chats> "The MSI WS-60 uses an 802.11ac chip, one that’s not entirely supported in Linux." - anyone familiar with this?
[21:36] <xfceone> vlt ok thanks
[21:36] <k1l_> guest3456_: that bug you linked needs to be fixed by vagrant.
[21:37] <__raven_> hm i do not get it. everything seems to be referenced correctly
[21:37] <__raven_> should i give it a try?
[21:37] <guest3456_> ok
[21:37] <Gallomimia> if you do, you're sure to get really good at remounting your crypto and chroot ;)
[21:38] <Gallomimia> it's a pain, but trying again and again is probably in your future
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> guest3456_  in a terminal, type   apt-cache show | grep -i maintain
[21:38] <__raven_> hm o.O ;)
[21:38] <Bashing-om> Bomber4Chats: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/103306/en-us . Nvidia recommends the 361 version driver . Avail direct in 16.04 . else a PPA .
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> guest3456_  in a terminal, type   apt-cache show vagrant | grep -i maintain
[21:38] <Gallomimia> yeah. i feel your pain. i messed with mine a long time
[21:39] <guest3456_> MonkeyDust: thanks i guess i'll email them
[21:39] <Gallomimia> Bomber4Chats: heard of lots of troubles with wifi chips. if yours is unsupported, you're pretty much hooped till someone writes and releases a driver for it
[21:40] <guest3456_> actually
[21:40] <guest3456_> it looks like that maintainer has already commented on this issue and said he will push it into debian
[21:40] <guest3456_> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=818237#57
[21:41] <Gallomimia> guest3456_: so the answer to your first question, the packages get updated.... when the package maintainer updates them.
[21:41] <k1l_> Bomber4Chats: now you are talking about wifi chips.
[21:41] <k1l_> Bomber4Chats: that depends on the exact chip used then.
[21:42] <guest3456_> ok Gallomimia
[21:42] <Gallomimia> if you're reading an article that suggests the chip in your proposed system is unsupported, that's probably the end of it. unless someone published a driver for it very recently... no deal
[21:44] <guest3456_> so it looks like the newer version of vagrant is already available according to this
[21:44] <guest3456_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vagrant
[21:44] <OerHeks> maybe this is the patch guest3456_ https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vagrant/1.8.1+dfsg-2
[21:44] <guest3456_> can i just install it outside of using apt-get
[21:44] <OerHeks> yakety yakky
[21:45] <guest3456_> yea OerHeks how do i install it since apt won't do it
[21:45] <__raven_> Gallomimia: ok fingers crossed....
[21:45] <xfceone> A way to open source code of router .bin firmware?
[21:46] <Bomber4Chats> k1l_: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8260 Wireless Technology 802.11ac :O
[21:46] <OerHeks> dpkg -i <deb> does not work either on yakety packages in xenial.. build it yourself?
[21:48] <k1l_> Bomber4Chats: "ubuntu 8260 intel" shows a lot of "solved" threads. so i guess it works now.
[21:48] <guest3456_> pain in the ass linux
[21:48] <guest3456_> lol
[21:49] <whoaz> giggity
[21:50] <guest3456_> OerHeks: can't i use this .deb file somehow? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/yakkety/i386/vagrant/1.8.1+dfsg-2
[21:51] <guest3456_> i dont know how ubuntu is gonna wait until the next release in 4 months before updating packages
[21:51] <k1l_> !bug | guest3456_
[21:52] <k1l_> guest3456_: and often they dont increase the version number, since that brings some more issues, the inlcude the path in the old version.
[21:53] <yeats> guest3456_: you can *probably* just use the debian package from their site: https://www.vagrantup.com/downloads.html
[21:53] <guest3456_> yeats: sorry i'm new to ubuntu how to i install that package?
[21:54] <yeats> guest3456_: but whether you do that or install the yakkety package, it will be beyond "standard" ubuntu support (in other words, you're on your own :-) )
[21:55] <yeats> guest3456_: click on the link for your architecture (probably x64) and it should prompt to open in Software Install (assuming you're on 16.04)
[21:56] <guest3456_> duh thats simple
[21:56] <guest3456_> heh
[21:56] <__raven_> Gallomimia: it still tried to look for the wiped device uuid as root partition at boot... where is that linked??
[21:58]  * whoaz farts loudly.
[21:59] <rhubarbIsCrunchy> if somebody farts loudly when there's no one else there to witness it, did it really happen?
[21:59] <drab> more importantly, can you smell it over irc?
[21:59] <guest3456_> it looks like Software Install has hung
[21:59] <guest3456_> trying to install it
[21:59] <guest3456_> maybe i should have uninstalled it with apt first
[21:59] <BlenderPro> I want to upload a full directory content using the ftp command in ubuntu is it possible? I'm connected to the server right now it's a local ftp server on windows and that account has write permissions for files and directories but I don't know the parameters please help
[21:59] <yeats> guest3456_: Software Install is a front end to APT
[22:00] <drab> in other news, can anybody with an intel gfx card using the xorg intel video drivers speak to its benfits? I'm seeing crashes with it and it's not clear what it buys me
[22:00] <guest3456_> earlier they told me Software Install only does the bundles and that Synaptic did all the packages
[22:00] <rhubarbIsCrunchy> @drab - sounds like the next kickstarter ...
[22:00] <drab> rhubarbIsCrunchy: they tried to make printers that you can smell, didn't go far unfortunately
[22:01] <drab> but it's right up there with AI and the singulary
[22:01] <drab> singularity*
[22:01] <Citral> .
[22:02] <k1l_> rhubarbIsCrunchy: drab you could both please stick to technical ubuntu support in here? thanks.
[22:02] <drab> k1l_: good point, got an intel vid card?
[22:02] <drab> this is the pkg I'm looking at xserver-xorg-video-intel
[22:03] <drab> it says it ships the drivers for i915 chipets, but it seems the kernel does too
[22:03] <drab> so it's unclear to me what the benefits of those drivers are
[22:03] <guest3456_> anyway looks like its working, thx for the help
[22:03] <k1l_> drab: what is the exact issue with it?
[22:03] <yeats> guest3456_: it can handle debs for sure, not sure what "they" told you
[22:04] <k1l_> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel
[22:04] <drab> k1l_: it seems to cause crashes as in this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1510970
[22:04] <drab> there are some workarounds, but then as I said I'm not even sure what the benefits are
[22:04] <drab> on xenial there are already modules for i915 chipsets
[22:05] <drab> so it's unclear to me what the benefits of installing that package are
[22:05] <drab> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1510970
[22:05] <drab> I also have that problem
[22:05] <drab> which seems to be related to the same pkg
[22:06] <drab> I've tried to remove it completely and the machine is still working just fine, so I'm trying to figure out what's the point to begin with
[22:10] <k1l_> drab: see its description: https://packages.debian.org/sid/xserver-xorg-video-intel
[22:10] <drab> stallation and updating of drivers for Intelâs graphics cards so that users are able to get the best performance out of their hardware and stay âup-to-date with the latest Intel Graphics Stack for Linuxâ.
[22:10] <drab> But while Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64-bit and 32-bit get the official nod, along with Fedora 20, the update sees support for earlier versions retired.
[22:11] <drab> whups, wrong window, sry
[22:11] <drab> k1l_: yeah I've seen that, it doesn't help, it just says "provides drivers", but what's the diff of those drivers with those shipped with the kernel?
[22:12] <drab> XvMC is the only "different" thing, but no mention if that's all it, which I don't think it is
[22:13] <alxpa1> Guys... is the latest Ubuntu default wallpaper royalty free?
[22:19] <Jack_> There's a book about data structures but in python
[22:19] <Jack_> is it good to learning in python?
[22:21] <bazhang> Jack_, try the python channel
[22:22] <Gallomimia> __raven_: sorry was afk getting some food. it sounds to me like it's still using the old initrd. you need to overcome that error message. you could try changing the option u to c. (update, create) you might want to move the old initrd out of the way first
[22:24] <ice_> hell
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[22:24] <jvr> hell
[22:25] <ice_> nice
[22:25] <ice_> hi ice
[22:25] <ice_> asçjdlfklsjkadfçlkajsdf
[22:26] <ice_> VC QUE É O MC PEDRINHO ?
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[22:26] <ice_> NUDES
[22:26] <ice_> MANDA NUDES
[22:28] <__raven_> Gallomimia: ok i will try that tomorrow. thank you and Bashing-om for the moment :)
[22:28] <Gallomimia> aye good luck
[22:31] <Bashing-om> __raven_: I will stay tuned .. just in the event I might be of some assistance .. but encryption .. never been there and just do not know .
[22:34] <uRock> Does xubuntu 16.04 automatically offer to connect to internet when an Android phone is connected?
[22:40] <OerHeks> uRock,  i guess not, as you need the mtp package
[22:41] <uRock> Was wondering. I noticed ubuntu has started offering when I connect and am likely to put xubuntu on a weaker laptop of mine. Thanks DerHeks
[22:48] <BR_GhostBuster> hello
[22:50] <Bashing-om> BR_GhostBuster: Hi ! ... Your ubuntu issue ?
[22:51] <BR_GhostBuster> .yes
[22:52] <BR_GhostBuster> Yes
[22:52] <BR_GhostBuster> I need a help with xubuntu
[22:52] <BR_GhostBuster> I dont know to install an App in Xubuntu, i dont have the commands
[22:53] <pvsharov> Ubuntu sowtware center
[22:53] <uRock> BR_GhostBuster, which app?
[22:53] <Bashing-om> BR_GhostBuster: What is the app ? and where are you attempting to obtain it from ?
[22:54] <SleePy> Anyone know where I can find the libmysqlclient18 for Ubuntu 16.04?  What makes it difficult is I have Percona.  Not having luck trying to symlink the percona file (ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libperconaserverclient.so.18 /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.18)
[22:54] <BR_GhostBuster> Wine, to install windows programs
[22:55] <pvsharov> BR_GhostBuster: just open with wine
[22:55] <pvsharov> by right click
[22:55] <BR_GhostBuster> I dont know to install wine in my computer
[22:55] <pvsharov> sudo aptitude install wine
[22:56] <pvsharov> read docs anyway
[22:56] <BR_GhostBuster> Im a newbie user in linux, you dont sollute my question, but ok, i go to install windows again
[22:57] <kenrin> What?  He answered it:  <pvsharov> sudo aptitude install wine
[22:58] <pvsharov> kenrin: what what?
[22:58] <Citral> No Windows
[22:58] <Citral> dont do that
[22:59] <Citral> I help you but im newbie with experience
[22:59] <BR_GhostBuster> No, no, i go to install windows again, thanks and bye
[22:59] <iiaann> BR-GhostBuster: You can install Wine via the 'software centre' or Synaptic, if you're not familiar with using a terminal window.
[23:00] <destinydriven> oh no, not windows!!!
[23:00] <iiaann> Some people are so impatient.
[23:01] <pvsharov> BR_GhostBuster: I fully answered for your question.
[23:01] <destinydriven> he's not ready for unbuntu
[23:01] <Bashing-om> As said, one can lead a horse to water, but can not make them "think" .
[23:01] <destinydriven> ubuntu*
[23:02] <OerHeks> if he has got a mouse, he can do what he wants..
[23:03] <destinydriven> maybe a better questions would be, I'd like to know if there's a ubuntu alternative to "blah" windows program. How can I install this?
[23:04] <SleePy> Got it, had to link the _r file as well.  ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libperconaserverclient_r.so.18 /usr/lib/libmysqlclient_r.so.18
[23:06] <pvsharov> destinydriven: I don't know what he thinks about
[23:06] <pvsharov> Just "clear mind"
[23:08] <uRock> Lol, he probably looked at "aptitude" in the command offered and didn't know it was a command line utility.
[23:10] <uRock> pvsharov, why offer a command using a utility not installed by default in ubuntu?
[23:10] <iiaann> Perhaps newbies coming from windows don't have command line experience. I, a linux veteran, prefer to mess around in Synaptic.
[23:11] <uRock> I like synaptic, too. I find programs I never knew existed.
[23:11] <pvsharov> I proposed using a Ubuntu software center first
[23:11] <uRock> k
[23:11] <uRock> didn't see that
[23:11] <iiaann> That's true, I didn't notice, sorry.
[23:12] <pvsharov> but somebody can't read
[23:12] <pvsharov> iiaann: it's ok
[23:13] <uRock> WHo comes into a text only envirnment and can't read.
[23:14] <algern-n> hety
[23:17] <Al3xG0> ubuntu 12 have support until When?
[23:18] <pvsharov> Al3xG0: http://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life
[23:18] <xxxx> Q!w2E#r4T%
[23:20] <uRock> Bashing-om, Thanks again for your help the other day.
[23:20] <uRock> I'm glad I finally reinstalled.
[23:27] <Guest94940> I know Linux From Scracth exist but I want to be a developer who knows how the system works.
[23:28] <Guest94940> I want the big picture that developers have
[23:28] <philipp_> hey guys im running 16.04. i think i crashed my apache2 can i delete it an install a fresh version ? How can i do it
[23:29] <pvsharov> philipp_: sudo apt-get reinstall apache2
[23:29] <OerHeks> --purge & reinstall .. or fix it
[23:29] <Guest94940> I don't even have the questions
[23:30] <Guest94940> because I don't know what I don't know.
[23:30] <bazhang> !rute | Guest94940
[23:30] <bazhang> start there Guest94940
[23:31] <DarthFrog> Hi folks.  I'm running 16.04, upgraded from 15.10.  The upgrade to MySQL 5.7 fails with: mysql_upgrade: [ERROR] 1146: Table 'mysql.innodb_table_stats' doesn't exist
[23:32] <DarthFrog> Is this a known issue?
[23:33] <pvsharov> DarthFrog: https://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=70152
[23:33] <DarthFrog> pvsharov: Thanks!
[23:36] <OerHeks> same issue, but not answered http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322116
[23:37] <DarthFrog> OerHeks: Yeah, that's the one I had found earlier.
[23:37] <OerHeks> DarthFrog,  the cause of this, is persistent statistics .. http://stackoverflow.com/a/28292203
[23:40] <DarthFrog> OerHeks: I don't know what I did, but things are working now. :-)
[23:40] <OerHeks> oracle magic
[23:40] <DarthFrog> :-)
[23:41] <pvsharov> ;)
[23:44] <Ray_> I've created a usb stick with AMD64 16.04 and am trying to load it on a new Asus computer that has Windows 7 with the legacy bios setting but can't.  It appears to be a UEFI version.  I can't find a legacy-bios version of AMD 64 16.04.  Where is that available?
[23:44] <OerHeks> !uefi | Ray_
[23:45] <OerHeks> all the iso's are UEFI compatible i think
[23:47] <Ray_> I don't want UEFI compatible.  I want legacy-bios compatible AMD64 16.04 Ubuntu.  Where can I download the iso for that?
[23:48] <OerHeks> same iso .. just a setting in your bios changes it
[23:57] <ziwmyvb> Is anyone here good with Gentoo and i3 by chance? I have a bit of an emergency and desperately need help on something relatively simple.
[23:58] <bazhang> #gentoo ziwmyvb
[23:59] <Guest65246> Is require to become a ubuntu developer to understand databases?
[23:59] <pvsharov> Guest65246: no


[00:14] <mimizone> part of an answer to my previous question. If there is multiple static routes, the generated /etc/network/interfaces file is not valid.
[00:15] <mimizone> the pre-down and the post-up lines are not separated by a next line character.
[00:16] <mimizone> like the following is on one line
[00:16] <mimizone> pre-down route del -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS> metric 0 || truepost-up route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS> metric 0 || true
[00:24] <pmatulis> mimizone, sounds like you found a bug. kindly file it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+filebug
[00:45] <mimizone> pmatulis: done here https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1667863
[00:45] <mimizone> I have found another one I think regarding the missing default gateway.
[00:46] <mimizone> it appears that if I use only bridges instead of physical interface or just VLAN interfaces, the gateway is not set
[00:48] <mup> Bug #1667863 opened: if a subnet has multiple static routes, the network interfaces file is invalid <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1667863>
[01:12] <mup> Bug #1660860 opened: mdadm error message during 14.04 deploy <MAAS:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1660860>


[02:15] <keithzg> Huh, linux-headers-4.4.0-97 is taking *forever* to unpack on one of my server VMs.
[02:17] <sarnold> it's nearly 17k files
[02:17] <sarnold> what kind of iops do you have on that system?
[02:18] <keithzg> Not terribly great, since it's a VM running on an HDD. I'm just weirded out because other VMs on the same host didn't take nearly as long!
[02:18] <sarnold> hrm
[02:19] <keithzg> But yeah, fair enough, if any package is going to spend a long time unpacking this'd be the one, heh.
[02:19] <sarnold> check iostat -dmx1 or vmstat 1 or something similar to see if there's something doing a steady stream of sync writes to disk or similar?
[02:19] <sarnold> are there ioerror sin dmesg on host or guest?
[02:20] <sarnold> is the filesystem stored on an AF drive but with 512B sectors?
[02:23] <keithzg> Storage is qcow2, bus is virtio. Nothing showing up in dmesg. I must admit I don't know how to read vmstat, but iostat doesn't look *too* bad
[02:24] <keithzg> (on the host, guest doesn't have iostat installed and I can't do so right now, hah)
[02:25] <stokachu> stgraber: had a user see this with snap lxd stable http://paste.ubuntu.com/25782412/
[02:25] <stokachu> stgraber: and http://paste.ubuntu.com/25782424/
[02:26] <stgraber> stokachu: hmm, out of disk space maybe? that'd explain both of those
[02:27] <stokachu> bdx: ^
[02:28] <bdx> I was running in a vm, its likely that could have been the issue ... I believe it had plenty of space though
[02:30] <stokachu> im guessing the vm isn't up any longer?
[02:32] <bdx> its not, I appologize
[02:32] <bdx> i have some scroll back though from when I was logged into it
[02:32] <keithzg> sarnold: Checking logical_block_size and physical_block_size in /sys/class/block/sda/queue/ (and sdb) on the host seems to confirm that they're old non-AF drives and formatted in the according 512B sectors. Hmm. I'm reminded by this that the drive in question is in fact a pair, using hardware RAID. Tempted to just blame it on that somehow :P
[02:33] <bdx> so, I removed system level lxd, and I still see it here http://paste.ubuntu.com/25782525/
[02:33] <sarnold> keithzg: does the hardware controller have error logs available anywhere?
[02:33] <sarnold> keithzg: smart data?
[02:33] <bdx> I just have a feeling it was a cruft thing somehow, the system had lxd reconfigured quite a few times in and outside of the snap
[02:35] <keithzg> sarnold: This is very cheap commodity hardware, so I'd be surprised if the controller actually had accessible logs! For what it's worth smartcl hasn't logged any errors for either drive.
[02:36] <keithzg> (err, I should say, smartctl doesn't report that any smart errors have been logged on either drive)
[02:36] <sarnold> keithzg: hrm, somehow this is a bit unsatisfying :) it feels like it ought to be possible to nail down what's going on.
[02:37] <sarnold> I don't remember spinning metal drives a being -that- slow, somehow we survived back in the day :)
[02:37] <keithzg> hehe
[02:37] <keithzg> sarnold: No kidding! I'm almost tempted to just cancel the operation, install iostat, and start it up again :P
[02:38] <sarnold> keithzg: wait the damn thing is still going??
[02:38] <keithzg> sarnold: Haha actually inbetween me saying that and you replying, it finally got past that package!
[02:38] <sarnold> hehe
[02:40] <sarnold> 19:15:09 to 19:37:44. 12.5 files per second. that sounds slow.
[02:40] <sarnold> and presumably you only complained on irc after it'd been going on for a little while already.
[02:41] <keithzg> Yeah, I checked on it a few times and eventually went "seriously, *still*?" and only then piped up here
[02:42] <keithzg> Clearly I'm going to have to keep a watchful eye on this guest and its host . . .
[13:52] <FMan> hi
[15:49] <drab> hi, is it still a pipedream to have a simple solution to monitoring what's going on on the network?
[15:49] <drab> way back doing it "right" meant to set up cflow/netflow and it was a pita just to get through the standards
[15:50] <drab> any chance it got easier?
[15:51] <drab> the alternative used to be cacti, but that only really gives you a sense of traffic per port, not really the type of traffic like netflow does (well at least you get ip + port tuples on each switch port)
[19:37] <orogor> hi
[19:37] <orogor> anyone would know why sudo wouldn t work after upgrade to 17.10 ?
[19:38] <orogor> it just hang there after typing a good password
[21:20] <gunix> iface bond0.10 inet manual
[21:20] <gunix> what does .10 mean?
[21:21] <gunix> oh, vlan tag
[21:56] <Blueking> apt autoremove doesn't clean latest  and need to check what version ubuntu are currently running before clean/remove stuff in /boot


[06:37] <meena> holman: yeah, that's it.
[14:13] <meena> https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/1733
[14:57] <holman> meena: Mostly out of curiosity, would you mind sharing how newlines get interpreted on shell?
[14:57] <meena> holman: it just prints "blah\nblubb" instead of
[14:57] <meena> blah
[14:57] <meena> blubb
[14:57] <holman> meena: gotcha, thanks
[14:58] <meena> holman: which cloud-init then reads as \n, rather than a newline
[14:58] <holman> makes sense, thanks
[15:20] <meena> holman: my shell, btw, is fish. On Ubuntu.
[15:20] <holman> meena: nice, that's interesting
[15:20] <meena> well, ElementaryOS, which is based on Ubuntu, but still
[15:20] <holman> never used that one
[15:21] <holman> meena: I assumed incorrectly I see :)
[15:21] <holman> no Freebsd?
[15:21] <meena> holman: i bricked my freebsd laptop, and haven't had time to fix it… also, make check doesn't quite run on FreeBSD yet…
[15:22] <holman> fish is one I've never tried - I use zsh these days, mostly because there are some really nice highlighting and autosuggestions (which I think fish also has too, right?)
[15:24] <meena> holman: every thing you type, is basically running thru Ctrl+R
[15:25] <meena> and it has syntax highlighting, so when you do a typo it shows it
[15:26] <holman> nice, that sounds similar
[15:26] <holman> meena: I used to work for an organization where anybody that didn't have an opinion about their shell was given csh/tcsh by default, which seemed like an odd choice to me
[15:27] <meena> holman: i like tcsh… a little better than bash :P
[15:27] <meena> hrm…
[15:29] <holman> nothing wrong with tcsh, but for an inexperienced user I'd argue that bash probably has more stack exchange posts to help them along :)
[15:29] <meena> lol, yeah
[15:29] <meena> i have found another bug
[15:29] <meena> sshd isn't enabled on FreeBSD
[15:30] <holman> meena: ouch, is this a default change? or something that never worked?
[15:30] <meena> i reckon it's something that never worked
[15:33] <meena> holman: cc_ssh.py doesn't enable / start the service…
[15:34] <holman> I suspect that's because most linux server images probably have it enabled by default.
[15:34] <meena> so the ssh keys are generated, but no ssh server started
[15:35] <holman> meena: related - I'd love to see pycloudlib support more than just ubuntu. Launching a bsd or a rhel or whatever to do some basic integration tests (such as "log in via ssh") would be a high-value litmus test.
[15:35] <meena> holman: agreed, and it's on the plan
[15:36] <holman> meena: Nice! I think I only skimmed an early version of the plan, I'll have to re-read.
[15:43] <meena> Let's submit that as bug report
[15:51] <holman> Agreed, I think that deserves a report.
[16:10] <meena> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1989743
[16:46] <holman> +1 thanks for filing meena
[16:56] <cjp256> i filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1989651 last night, but fwiw it's not a regression, seems like the behavior is at least a year old
[17:58]  * meena updated her Timezon @ https://launchpad.net/~minagalic
[18:00] <meena> i should also move cloud-init back up here https://github.com/igalic
[20:08] <meena> oh, right: i can't get bootcmd to work
[20:09] <meena> bootcmd:
[20:09] <meena>   - sysrc -c sendmail_enable=NONE || sysrc sendmail_enable=NO
[20:09] <meena> is in my user-data, and the logs say:
[20:11] <meena> https://gist.github.com/igalic/7d7727da0a478cea51fd9bf5d5582a8d
[20:11] <meena> so, it says it's applying, but I don't see that happening
[20:54] <holman> meena: bootcmd is a little tricky, a list of list of string behaves differently than a list of string
[20:54] <holman> so if you add quotes around the whole command that should help
[20:55] <holman> - "sysrc -c sendmail_enable=NONE || sysrc sendmail_enable=NO"
[20:55] <holman> when the command is a string, it gets executed in a shell, when it's just a list the list items are passed to execve on linux (not sure how that translates to bsds)
[20:56] <holman> hold up I'm describing runcmd, not bootcmd
[21:03] <meena> holman: no difference
[21:07] <meena> oh, i didn't update the ci-data >_>
[21:10] <meena> why sendmail is enabled by default on FreeBSD is still beyond me
[21:25] <meena> holman: switched to runcmd and it doesn't work either! fun…
[21:25] <meena> oh i'm an idiot
[21:29] <meena> it should be - "sysrc -c sendmail_enable=NONE || sysrc sendmail_enable=NONE"
[21:35] <meena> also, I have managed to put a Cyrillic E (Е) in there…
[21:36] <holman> heh, nice
[22:52] <meena> next i need to figure out why set_hostname doesn't work, but update_etc_hosts does


[06:41] <taihsiang> infinity, hi, I am wondering that there is lucid proposed kernel for SRU testing. IIRC, there is no proposed lucid  this cycle(10-Apr through 02-May)?
[06:42] <taihsiang> infinity, I am ok to test it on the certification part. just want to confirm if anything I am missing or misunderstand, thanks.
[07:10] <doug16k> Hi. I get many dmesg assert spams at /build/buildd/linux-3.19.0/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_runtime_pm.c:680 intel_display_power_put+0x103/0x170 [i915]()
[07:10] <doug16k> the last update fixed my i915 lockup (great!) but it caused my battery life to get very short
[07:11] <doug16k> there is a warning that dumps to dmesg when it is about to decrement a power well that has a count of zero
[07:11] <doug16k> it messes up those counts
[07:16] <doug16k> 3.19.0-15-generic btw
[07:20] <apw> doug16k, do file a bug for us to track that, that helps us know what h/w you have etc
[07:20] <apw> "ubuntu-bug linux"
[07:32] <doug16k> apw, thanks! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1449893
[07:34] <doug16k> I had a peek at that code - looks like the assertion is warning that it is about to decrement a use count that is zero - it has messed up the refcounts
[07:35] <apw> thanks, will see if someone can have a poke
[13:16] <Deathcrow> I am trying to rebuild a kernel module for the ubuntu stock kernel, but when I try to insmod it I get "Invalid module format". I don't want to boot into an entirely new kernel...
[13:17] <Deathcrow> I only found guides explaining how to replace the whole kernel with a custom
[13:18] <Deathcrow> I assume it's some versioning thing that's stopping me from doing it? But surely it must be possible to modfiy a kernel module and recompile it for the stock kernel?
[13:24] <Deathcrow> What I did: Downloaded the linux source with 'apt-get install linux-source', extracted the tarball, modified some code and compiled with 'make modules'
[13:30] <Deathcrow> Anyone?
[13:45] <apw> Deathcrow, in theory yes, vresioning does need to match, as does the compiler (i believe).  i think make modules will definatly make the wrong version name, because of the way we use the abi number in our packaging
[13:46] <apw> Deathcrow, you could either build the whole kernel using the debian recipe, and extract the .ko and try that, or you might look at how we abuse the kernels versioning and abuse it compatibly in your make modules incantation
[13:46] <Deathcrow> apw: I figured it out!
[13:46] <Deathcrow> "make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-48-generic M=`pwd` modules" works
[13:47] <apw> heh, treating it as an out of tree module set, and building it against the installed kernel ... nice
[13:47] <ohsix> $() is your pal
[13:47] <Deathcrow> what's $() ?!
[13:47] <apw> its another `` form
[13:47] <ohsix> `` but sane :]
[13:47] <Deathcrow> ah yeah i know
[13:48] <Deathcrow> thanks
[13:48] <Deathcrow> I'm heading out of here!
[13:48] <Deathcrow> thanks for trying to help apw!
[13:48] <Deathcrow> bye
[13:48] <apw> Deathcrow, np
[14:08] <zequence>  apw, infinity and others: Since Ubuntu Studio Precise is going EOL now, I discussed with infinity about the possibility of dropping support linux-lowlatency.
[14:09] <zequence> And, since not other flavors are affected directly by this, and probably not many use that kernel anymore, I felt like this would be a good time to end maintenance.
[14:10] <zequence> I would like to thank everyone for helping me for the past couple of years, or how long its been.
[14:11] <zequence> It was a big improvement for Ubuntu Studio to get linux-lowlatency into the repos.
[14:12] <zequence> I will continue to keep an eye on the current linux-lowlatency kernels, so I'm not disappearing or anything.
[15:04] <apw> zequence, you've done a nice job looking after that ... thank you
[16:31] <leitao> ogasawara, hi there. Both CAPI bugs you just got are possible a backport for 15.10 kernel.
[16:35] <ogasawara> leitao: yep, thanks.  Mikey sent us an email as a heads up.
[16:35] <leitao> ogasawara, good