[23:25] <nhandler> Anyone around with full access to the Fridge gcal?
[23:26] <tyche> nhandler: What's up?
[23:27] <nhandler> tyche: I need some help cleaning up the Ubuntu Beginners Team Meeting events. It looks like the Fridge calendar is still showing one version of the meeting taking place every 2 weeks. There should be 2 items each repeating every 2 months (in order to have a different meeting time each month)
[23:30] <tyche> OK, the first one I pulled up was 10-6-09, and shows it from 21:00 to 22:00 UTC every 2 months on the first Tuesday
[23:31] <tyche> Is that one right?
[23:35] <nhandler> tyche: That is correct. There is an event on 11/3 at that same time that needs to be removed. The event on 11/17 needs to be removed. One of the 2 events on 12/1, the event on 12/15, 12/29 too
[23:36] <tyche> OK hold on.
[23:37] <tyche> The one on 12-1 is one of the "every 2 months" ones
[23:38] <nhandler> I'm seeing 2 identical events on 12-1 (/me goes to look at the website)
[23:38] <nhandler> Ok, I guess my copy of gcal just hasn't updated yet
[23:39] <tyche> I don't know what the frequency is.  But when I killed the one that said "every 2 weeks" it may have killed a raft of them.
[23:39] <tyche> Because I don't see the one for 12-15 or 12-29 anymore
[23:53] <tyche> nhandler: Did that straighten it out?
[23:59] <nhandler> tyche: It looks like one of the events (at the later time) is completely gone. I'll re-add it. Thanks for your help
[23:59] <tyche> NP
[23:59] <tyche> Do you need an "invite" to the actual Google Calendar?


[05:01] <Kilos> morning all
[05:02] <Kilos> ons is maar bitter min hier ne
[05:07] <Cantide> o.o
[05:07] <Cantide> hallo
[05:07] <Kilos> hi Cantide
[05:08] <Cantide> hi Kilos  :p
[05:08] <Cantide> how have you been?
[05:09] <Kilos> weirdest thing happening here, i auto join ##unavailable but its not in my list
[05:09] <Kilos> i been ok ty and you
[05:18] <Kilos> hi Tonberry gremble
[05:24] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[05:25] <gremble> Hmph. I am going down the EC in Jan and my mother is freaking out
[05:25] <gremble> I just want to take a greyhound down, and she is insisting that I take a flight
[05:25] <Kilos> tell her busses cant fall out of the sky
[05:26] <gremble> She heard that busses collide in the Eastern Cape, therefore all busses that drive to EC will collide
[05:27] <Kilos> lol
[05:27] <gremble> It is like R525 for a bus and R1922 for a flight
[05:27] <gremble> doh
[05:27] <Kilos> for how long are you going there
[05:27] <gremble> Just two or three weeks
[05:27] <gremble> Visiting a friend
[05:27] <Kilos> ah
[05:27] <gremble> If I go with SAA, it is R5k
[05:28] <gremble> Almost 6
[05:28] <gremble> f that
[05:28] <Kilos> wow
[05:28] <gremble> haha
[05:28] <Kilos> i can buy lots of pc stuff with 5k
[05:28] <gremble> Hmm. I am pretty sure that this website is lost though
[05:28] <gremble> According to it, it is a 5 hour flight from Lanseria to East London
[05:29] <Kilos> about 1 to 1 1/2 hours
[05:29] <Kilos> my sis flys from jhb to windhoek in under 2 hours
[05:30] <Kilos> depending on head winds they say hehe
[05:31] <Symmetria> rebooting za.archive btw, should be back online in the next 4 to 8 minutes
[05:31] <Symmetria> which is how long that thing takes to reboot ;p
[05:32] <Kilos> thats fast Symmetria it was very sick yesterday, waiting for headers
[05:32] <gremble> Another site saying that it takes 5 hours to get to EL
[05:32] <gremble> what the hell
[05:32] <gremble> haha
[05:32] <Symmetria> kilos hrm, you shoulda messaged me if it was giving problems
[05:32] <gremble> There are even flights where there are stops in
[05:33] <Kilos> i will if im not busy installing from scratch
[05:33] <Symmetria> gremble heh, lanseria to east london if you're on any form of decent plane takes no longer than an hour and a half
[05:33] <Symmetria> heh, I flew joburg east london like 30 times last year
[05:34] <Symmetria> ok its back online
[05:34] <Kilos> hi bduk1
[05:34] <gremble> Symmetria: Here is a flight that takes 23 hours
[05:34] <gremble> :P
[05:34] <gremble> Apparently there is a long layover in CPT
[05:34] <gremble> what the actual fuck
[05:34] <gremble> :P
[05:34] <bduk1> More Kilos  and others
[05:35] <Symmetria> gremble why not just fly direct via or tambo?
[05:35] <Symmetria> heh and why are you going to slummies anyway :)
[05:35] <gremble> Going to Port Alfred to visit a friend
[05:35] <Symmetria> there is nothing there ;p trust me, I grew up in that shithole :)
[05:35] <gremble> Haha I'm not going for the place
[05:35] <gremble> :P
[05:36] <Symmetria> gremble, why not just fly to port elizabeth then? same distance from PE to port alfred as it is from port alfred to east london
[05:36] <Symmetria> and roads from PE -> Port Alfred are better ;p
[05:36] <Symmetria> its exactly in the middle :)
[05:36] <gremble> The map says no. Haha But I can try
[05:36] <Symmetria> gremble trust me, its dead centre, I drove that road allllll the time :)
[05:37] <gremble> It is still R2k a ticket
[05:37] <Symmetria> 2k return? that aint bad ;p
[05:38] <gremble> For me it is
[05:38] <gremble> haha
[05:38] <Symmetria> lol, well, by comparison with flying anywhere else I mean
[05:38] <gremble> Haha Ya. I think I will just take the bus
[05:39] <gremble> I can read, so the 14 hours really isnt that bad
[05:39] <Symmetria> heh I did 29 return trips last year to kenya from east london, it cost the company who was paying for it 320 thousand rand all in all ;p
[05:39] <gremble> Impressive that you are worth that much to them :P
[05:39] <Symmetria> gremble haha, that excludes the 100 thousand dollars in hotel bills over the same period
[05:39] <gremble> And your own salary
[05:40] <Symmetria> after that I moved to Kenya ;p
[05:40] <Symmetria> gremble haha we wont talk about that ;p
[05:40] <Symmetria> heh eventually convinced the company it was cheaper to just buy me a car in Kenya, rent me a nice house and have me live here ;p
[05:40] <gremble> Haha I wasn't asking about it.
[05:40] <gremble> Where in Kenya?
[05:41] <Symmetria> and since company has crazy housing allowance policy that says no matter which country an expat is going to, the housing allowance is always the same, and they have people as expats in london, lol, the house I got in kenya is niceeeeeeeee ;p
[05:41] <Symmetria> heh, Im living in Nairobi now
[05:41] <Symmetria> my house has 3 jacuzzi's in it ;p why? I have no idea, since I can only use one ;p but since housing allowances are always a case of, use it or loose it ;p may as well ;p
[05:42] <gremble> Who builds a house with 6 jacuzzi's?
[05:42] <gremble> 3*
[05:42] <gremble> wow
[05:43] <Symmetria> haha its got 5 bedrooms, all of them have onsuite bathrooms, and 3 of those bathrooms have jacuzzi's
[05:43] <Symmetria> and lol even my office has an on-suite bathroom with a nice shower in it :)
[05:43]  * Symmetria loves kenya ;p
[05:44] <gremble> Your wife/girlfriend/husband/boyfriend/realdoll must also be quite impressed
[05:44] <gremble> I should have kept with significant other
[05:45] <gremble> wouldve kept that sentence shorter
[05:48] <Cantide> Kilos, I'm doing just fine :)
[05:48] <Symmetria> heh fiance actually ;p
[05:48] <Symmetria> talking about fiance, lol, I got my dowry ceremony on the 6th of december
[05:48] <Symmetria> worried as shit about that
[05:49] <gremble> I dunno what that is
[05:51] <Kilos> hahaha
[05:53] <Trixar_za> Downry ceremony? What does that entail?
[05:56] <gremble> If I recall correctly, a Dowry is a gift that the husband to be gets along with the wife (Possibly because he needs to get paid to marry her :P)
[05:57] <Kilos> lol
[05:58] <Kilos> i thought a dowry was something the wife takes with her into the marriage
[05:58] <gremble> "something the wife takes with her into the marriage"
[05:58] <Kilos> like a chest full of things
[05:58] <Kilos> or is that trouseau
[05:59] <gremble> "here, I come with this: Some plates, leather upholstry and a 3 month warrenty"
[05:59] <Kilos> ya like that
[05:59] <gremble> :P
[05:59] <Kilos> used to be bedding and curtains and lots of stuff for the home i think
[06:00] <Kilos> and some cows and goats and chickens
[06:00] <Kilos> hehe
[06:00] <Symmetria> heh depends
[06:00] <Symmetria> on the culture
[06:00] <Symmetria> in African culture, dowry = labola
[06:00] <gremble> Still looks like the husband is getting paid to take her off of her father's hands
[06:00] <gremble> :P
[06:01] <Symmetria> = money paid by the guy to compensate the family for loss of income from the daughter :)
[06:01] <Kilos> eeek
[06:01] <Symmetria> and its complicated
[06:01] <Symmetria> because the guy doesnt even get to be in the negotiations ;p the guy sends in a representative to negotiate with her family
[06:01] <Symmetria> and is bound by whatever is negotiated
[06:02] <gremble> Lol
[06:02] <Kilos> good way to get poor fast
[06:02] <Symmetria> (oh, and under kenyan law, the moment that ceremony is completed, you're legally married under traditional law, when you have your formal wedding etc, it moves from being a traditional marriage to a normal marriage, but you're still married after it)
[06:03] <gremble> It is all interesting, but I don't do well with culture.
[06:03] <gremble> :P
[06:03] <Symmetria> kilos lol, thats why I have a sane girlfriend with a sane family, she violated tradition and had a... quiet chat with her father and told him to go easy cause the money is coming outta the honeymoon budget ;p
[06:03] <Symmetria> still end up costing 20 or 30 grand though
[06:03] <gremble> woah good lord
[06:03] <Trixar_za> Well, that's fast. A family member walks in, negotiates a sum and you instantly become married after that.
[06:03] <Trixar_za> I'd probably freak out.
[06:03] <Kilos> hehe
[06:04] <gremble> I would freak out after the 4 0's :P
[06:04] <gremble> Anyway, cheers
[06:04] <gremble> I have to go write now
[06:04] <Symmetria> gremble haha, sanity prevails you're looking at 20 or 30 grand
[06:04] <Symmetria> Ive seen it go way higher than that though
[06:04] <Kilos> good luck gremble
[06:04] <Symmetria> I know guys who have been into the 100's of thousands of rands ;p
[06:04] <Symmetria> woman = bloody expensive ;p
[06:04] <gremble> I don't think I will be getting one of those then
[06:04] <Trixar_za> Eh, I realized that if I ever get a six pack abs, I'd probably go around and ask random strangers to feel them. So I might not freak out.  Mike Myers uses the same voice for Shrek that he does for Fat Bastard.
[06:09] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[06:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[06:10] <Squirm> morning
[06:11] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[06:27] <Symmetria> lol
[06:27] <Symmetria> check this (if you have bandwidth)
[06:27] <Symmetria> http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:27] <Symmetria> thats the mirror now running at full tilt
[06:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> "if you have bandwidth"
[06:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> so.... nobody here basically :-p
[06:33] <Squirm> lol
[06:33] <Squirm> I'll bbiab - leaving for work
[06:36] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:48] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[06:49] <Kilos> 8mm so ver
[06:49]  * Kilos bly
[06:50] <Symmetria> heh ThatGraemeGuy probably need 2 or 3 mbit to view that url
[06:50] <Symmetria> god, I've had to push ServerLimit to 16 thousand and MaxRequestWorkers to 16k as well
[06:50] <Symmetria> to keep up
[06:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> you're using event MPM I assume?
[06:51] <somaunn> hi Kilos
[06:51] <Kilos> hi somaunn
[06:51] <somaunn> what are the news here ?
[06:52] <Kilos> raining
[06:52] <Kilos> what is the news is the right way
[06:52] <Kilos> are is past tense
[06:52] <somaunn> thanks ...
[06:52] <Kilos> yw
[06:53] <Kilos> hows things youre side somaunn ?
[06:53] <Kilos> still redhatting yourself through life?
[06:54] <somaunn> yeah better say drinking a cup of fedora 21 alpha
[06:55] <Kilos> lol
[06:55] <somaunn> i don't have access to RHN network so i just gave up with RH
[06:55] <Kilos> ai!
[06:55] <somaunn> even tried CentOs but it's almost the same so i just gave up for now
[06:55] <Kilos> try kubuntu some time
[06:56] <Kilos> morning superfly
[06:56] <somaunn> but Fedora fits with my needs
[06:56] <Kilos> kde fits everyones needs
[06:56] <Kilos> even mine
[06:56] <somaunn> yeah Kubuntu.... will buy more data's and download it ... it's 1Gb size right ?
[06:56] <somaunn> Kilos: you using KDE ?
[06:57] <Kilos> yeah 1.1 i think
[06:57] <somaunn> hello superfly
[06:57] <Kilos> yip on kubuntu here now
[06:57] <somaunn> cool
[06:57] <Symmetria> ThatGraemeGuy yeah
[06:57] <somaunn> using plasma 5 or kde 4.x.x
[06:57] <Symmetria> heh ThatGraemeGuy we're running well over a thousand established sessions at a time
[06:57] <Symmetria> which is high
[06:57] <Kilos> i have no idea
[06:58] <Kilos> just installed kubuntu 14.04 and use it like that
[06:58] <somaunn> i was gnome addicted weeks ago and decided to give another try to KDE
[06:58] <Symmetria> Kilos the reason you were having problems with the mirrors yesterday btw
[06:58] <Symmetria> was because I didnt have the connection limits high enough
[06:59] <Kilos> ah thats good to know Symmetria ill change repos back again
[06:59] <Kilos> took like 5 mins each time it was looking for headers
[07:03] <Symmetria> yeah, its sorted out, the server was just choking under the number of hit requests with the apache config I had
[07:03] <Kilos> cool
[07:04] <Kilos> ill ping you next time
[07:12] <Kilos> somaunn, if/when you install kde again look at this link
[07:12] <Kilos> http://www.binarytides.com/better-kubuntu-14-04/
[07:53] <Symmetria> hrm, someone gimme sed regex to convert all upper case to lowercase?
[07:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> does it have to be sed?
[07:59] <Symmetria> ThatGraemeGuy heh, something CLI hat I can do as part of a one line bash script
[08:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> $ echo "HELLO WORLD" | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]'
[08:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> hello world
[08:05] <Symmetria> that would work :)
[08:29] <Symmetria> for i in `cat tmp2 |awk '{print $2"."$3}' |tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]'`; do echo $i `genpasswd` | awk '{print("username "$1" group read-only-support\nusername "$1" secret "$2)}'; don
[08:29] <Symmetria> ;p there we go
[08:33]  * ThatGraemeGuy gives Symmetria a cookie
[08:34] <Kilos> hehe
[08:47] <Symmetria> haha Im getting much bitching about that genpass
[08:47] <Symmetria> ;p
[08:47] <Symmetria> I used tr to make passwords outta /dev/urandom ;p
[08:52] <charl> good morning
[08:52] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:52]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[08:52] <Kilos> hi charl
[08:53] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[08:53] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay
[08:53] <charl> hi Kilos
[08:54] <Kilos> using a lekker command here
[08:54] <Kilos> sudo foremost –t jpeg,png,gif –d –o foremost –v –i /dev/sda7
[08:54] <charl> what does that do
[08:54] <Kilos> always before i didnt know it could do one partition only
[08:55] <Kilos> data recovery on a partition
[08:55] <Kilos> a wiped zeroed partition
[08:56] <Kilos> getting lots of messages bell in session shell
[08:56] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[08:56] <Kilos> i made a major boo boo here
[08:56] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[08:56] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[08:57] <Kilos> zeroed my good drive instead of the second drive
[08:57] <Kilos> sata cables were wrong way around
[08:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> with great power comes great responsibility
[08:58] <Kilos> ya tell me about it
[08:58] <Kilos> lol
[08:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> I think its too late for that, we've told you about it many times already :-p
[08:58] <Kilos> all my saved vids photos commands and packages gone
[08:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> this is why we do backups
[08:58] <Kilos> well man i forget
[08:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> then you must forget about the data you lost too :)
[08:59] <Kilos> thats where my backup was too
[08:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> thats not a backup then
[08:59] <charl> no that's on the same drive, what is the drive experiences epic hardware fail
[08:59] <Kilos> well lemme explain
[09:00] <Kilos> this is my new drive so i made a /storage partition at the end and have been bringing everything to there
[09:00] <Kilos> and had backup file there too
[09:00] <Kilos> sigh
[09:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> hence "not a backup"
[09:01] <charl> that backup has set sail for fai
[09:01] <Kilos> other drives all old ones that gave probs hence the many installs
[09:01] <charl> *fail
[09:01] <Kilos> ill find most of the stuff that was there i think with testdisk foremost and scalpel
[09:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> i have a 1tb portable where my photos are stored
[09:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> i rsync that to my 3tb desk drive at work and also to my HTPC
[09:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> so backups are in at least 2 physically separate locations
[09:03] <Kilos> my external packed up and was only 40g too
[09:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> it'll take a lot before i lose that stuff
[09:03] <Kilos> yeah
[09:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> i have other crap thats here there and everywhere but my photos are irreplaceable
[09:04] <Kilos> i used to rsync to the external
[09:04] <Kilos> same here i have some of family in the early 1900's
[09:05] <Kilos> always before i used to unplug drives i wasnt working on but this time i forgot
[09:06] <Kilos> all my how to info hits the hardest
[09:06] <Kilos> many years of help from the guys here
[09:07] <Kilos> foremost is finding lots
[09:07] <Kilos> foundat=jsloader/resource/gre/modules/osfile/ospath_unix_back.jsmUT
[09:12] <Kilos> foundat=Pictures/1000020100000448000002FA060F2981.png
[09:12] <Kilos> lots and lots
[09:13] <Kilos> but will start saving for a new external methinks
[09:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: for important docs and things dropbox is also useful
[09:15] <Kilos> yeah its just the data thats stopped me using it
[09:15] <Kilos> same with u1
[09:15] <Kilos> i only put stuff there i wanted to share
[09:27] <Symmetria> heh, we're running 1.7 million hits a day on the mirror by my calculation
[09:29] <Kilos> whew
[09:29] <Kilos> everyone climbing in there looks like
[10:34] <Squirm> oops
[10:34] <Squirm> forgot to connect when I was at work :P
[10:34] <Squirm> so Hii
[10:37] <Kilos> lol
[12:22] <Squirm> hmm
[12:22] <Squirm> ThatGraemeGuy: there's 1100 users on our site at the moment :P
[12:23] <Squirm> it's quite awesome to see
[12:49] <Kilos> how the exam go gremble
[12:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> nice :)
[13:49] <Squirm> people are quiet here today
[13:57] <Kilos> yeah
[14:14] <Symmetria> wow
[14:14] <Symmetria> how interesting
[14:14] <Symmetria> university of the free state is doing more v6 hits to the ubuntu mirror server than everyone else on the continent combined
[14:28] <Kilos> lol
[14:29] <Kilos> thats from us pointing to you hey Symmetria ?
[14:29] <Kilos> they were going to do the deb-delta thing too the swines
[14:30] <Kilos> now you got us working to you you can do it
[14:35] <Kilos> hmm... now he's hiding
[15:14] <gremble> I think I passed Kilos
[15:14] <gremble> I hope I did
[15:14] <gremble> :P
[15:14] <Kilos> good lad
[15:15] <Kilos> better to be sure though
[15:15] <gremble> I can't believe UP killed their *nix mirrors >.>
[15:15] <Kilos> more studying overcomes the hope mode
[15:16] <gremble> We find a couple of security flaws in their servers, point them out to them, suddenly we are the worst of the worst and now no one gets ubuntu
[15:16] <gremble> I don't understand the logic
[15:16] <Kilos> use the main server its pointed to kenya wehich is lekker fast
[15:17] <Kilos> or ftp.wa.co.za
[15:22] <Kilos> hi SDCDev
[15:22] <Kilos> are you clever
[15:23] <SDCDev> no :?
[15:23] <SDCDev> why :/
[15:23] <Kilos> i need to point scalpels output to somewhere else
[15:23] <Kilos> atm its in home i think but says the drive is full
[15:24] <Kilos> it lies
[15:24] <gremble> Pipe it to /dev/null?
[15:24] <Kilos> i have no idea how to do that
[15:25] <Kilos> but there is a conf file somewhere lemme look
[15:25] <gremble> I think with <command> &> /dev/null
[15:25] <Kilos> it could be using my root partition which is only 100g
[15:25] <Kilos> where is null?
[15:27] <gremble> Oh, yes you do <command> > /dev/null 2>&1
[15:27] <Kilos> sjoe now im even more mixed up isnt | the null thing
[15:27] <inetpro> Kilos: that mysterious place on a computer where lost data goes
[15:27] <gremble> It is in root, but it is a special empty file
[15:27] <gremble> It is like a vortex in which you can throw all your junk
[15:28] <inetpro> also called the bit bucket
[15:28] <Kilos> then my root is too small
[15:29] <Kilos> cant i point it to home rather, /home is 800g
[15:29] <inetpro> the null device is a device file that discards all data written to it but reports that the write operation succeeded
[15:29] <Kilos> eish thats no good man im trying to recover that data
[15:30] <Kilos> i want it i need it
[15:30] <Kilos> other wise i got to ask you guys for all the commands and how to's ive lost
[15:31] <Kilos> all the commands and advice since 8.10
[15:33] <Kilos> gremble can you explain that command for me please, im a mechanic remember
[15:33] <Kilos> command is the one i use right?
[15:33] <Kilos> sudo scalpel /dev/sda7 –o scalpel
[15:34] <Kilos> &> means send to
[15:34] <gremble> Yes, then that gives an output that should be caught by > sending it to /dev/null
[15:34] <gremble> the 2>&1 tells it to catch standard error output
[15:34] <gremble> If I understand it correctly
[15:35] <Kilos> cant i send it to my /home
[15:35] <gremble> If you want to send it home, you can
[15:35] <gremble> I thought you wanted to throw it away
[15:35] <gremble> haha
[15:35] <gremble> I have no idea what scalpel does
[15:36] <Kilos> no man i zeroed the wrong drive by accident
[15:36] <gremble> Ah
[15:36] <gremble> Now I get it
[15:36] <gremble> Yes
[15:36] <Kilos> now i need that partition recovered
[15:36] <gremble> You can point that wherever you want
[15:36] <Kilos> ok lemme try the command
[15:37] <gremble> Why don't you make a special file instead?
[15:37] <gremble> /home/zeroddrive
[15:37] <Kilos> sudo scalpel /dev/sda7 –o scalpel &> /home/zerodrive
[15:37] <Kilos> like that
[15:38] <Kilos>  2>&1 and that at the end
[15:39] <gremble> sudo scalpel /dev/sda7 -o scalpel > /home/zerodrive
[15:40] <gremble> I would guess
[15:40] <gremble> I don't know how scalpel works
[15:40] <Kilos> ty let me try
[15:40] <gremble> wait
[15:40] <Kilos> ok
[15:41] <gremble> you are writing to a directory called scalpel
[15:41] <gremble> it does not mean anything to the program
[15:41] <Kilos> scalpel-output
[15:41] <Kilos> in home . i see it under Desktop folder
[15:41] <gremble> sudo scalpel /dev/sda7 -o <file you want to write to>
[15:42] <Kilos> but ok ill try that ty
[15:42] <gremble> so it should be sudo scalpel /dev/sda7 -o ~/zerodrive
[15:42] <gremble> I thought mechanics knew about reading manuals :P
[15:43] <Kilos> lol you sound like the pro
[15:43] <Kilos> i dont understand man pages even
[15:43] <gremble> Haha. They are a bit dense
[15:43] <gremble> I'm just teasing :P
[15:44] <Kilos> yeah its me that has robs understanding serious geek stuff
[15:44] <Kilos> probs
[15:47] <Kilos> eish now got permissions probs to delete it
[15:47] <Kilos> grrrr
[15:48] <Kilos> back to chown
[15:56] <Kilos> inetpro, how much rain you had?
[15:57] <Kilos> we got 10 so far and weather man says lots more coming
[16:09] <Kilos> gremble, ty for the help, i will do that in future with scalpel and foremost as well
[16:09]  * Kilos starts a new help from the guys folder
[16:18] <Kilos> inetpro, tonight/tomorrow temps 18/24
[16:19] <Kilos> when temp diffs under 10 degrees we normally get rain
[17:10] <Symmetria> hrm
[17:10] <Symmetria> sup
[17:10] <Symmetria> who's awake
[17:14] <Kilos> lol what now
[17:15] <Symmetria> check this
[17:15] <Symmetria> aalston@mirror:~/temp$ ./timer /var/log/apache2/ubuntu-archive.log 10
[17:15] <Symmetria> Counted 194 lines in the last 10 seconds [19.40/second]
[17:15] <Symmetria> Counted 719 lines in the last 10 seconds [71.90/second]
[17:15] <Symmetria> Counted 655 lines in the last 10 seconds [65.50/second]
[17:15] <Symmetria> Counted 398 lines in the last 10 seconds [39.80/second]
[17:15] <Symmetria> Counted 299 lines in the last 10 seconds [29.90/second]
[17:15] <Symmetria> Counted 192 lines in the last 10 seconds [19.20/second]
[17:15] <Symmetria> Counted 390 lines in the last 10 seconds [39.00/second]
[17:15] <Symmetria> (timer is some quick hack code I put together to check the lines per second in a specific time interval)
[17:15] <Symmetria> but thats some hit rate
[17:15] <Symmetria> ;p
[17:16] <Kilos> at least its not standing there rotting
[17:16] <Kilos> now the server is really working
[17:16] <Symmetria> heh basically stat the log file to get its size, sleep X seconds, seek to the old size point, and then run an recursive fgets() to get a line count
[17:17] <Symmetria> haha server utilisation is at 3% ;p
[17:17] <Kilos> wow
[17:17] <Symmetria> not even close to working hard yet :)
[17:17] <Kilos> oh ya Symmetria what about a deb-delta server
[17:18] <Kilos> will save everyone time and save mobile peeps lots of money for data
[17:18] <Symmetria> gotta get around to setting one up ;p
[17:19] <Kilos> please do
[17:22] <Kilos> it will most likely cut down the time peeps spend there downloading as well
[17:41] <somaunn> hi Kilos
[17:42] <somaunn> Hi guys
[17:42] <Kilos> hi somaunn
[17:42] <somaunn> I'm back
[17:42] <somaunn> the day was ectik
[17:43] <Kilos> whew
[17:44] <somaunn> how is that word supposed to be writen ??? lol
[17:44] <somaunn> Hectik or Ectik
[17:44] <Kilos> hectic
[17:44] <somaunn> Dankie
[17:44] <somaunn> Dankie Kilos
[17:44] <Kilos> pleasure
[17:44] <Symmetria> heh somaunn where in Congo are you?
[17:44] <Kilos> whew you learning afrikaans too
[17:44] <Symmetria> Kinshasa? Lombombashi? Goma?
[17:45] <somaunn> Symmetria: i'm in Congo Brazzaville
[17:45] <Symmetria> aahhh other congo :)
[17:45] <Symmetria> sorry I was reading wrong on the info :)
[17:46] <somaunn> Kilos: i know some Afrikaans words broer
[17:46] <Kilos> looks like ya
[17:46] <Kilos> good
[17:48] <somaunn> actually googling kubuntu 14.10 to see what's different and what's new
[17:48] <somaunn> Kilos: hav you upgraded to kubuntu 14.10 ?
[17:48] <Kilos> no im going with lts releases
[17:48] <Kilos> so next one is 16.04
[17:49] <somaunn> Kilos: you only move from LTS to LTS right ?
[17:50] <Kilos> yeah i decided its better for me when it comes to mobile data usage
[17:51] <somaunn> okay i see
[17:51] <somaunn> yeah Kilos you right
[17:51] <somaunn> honnestly Plasma 5 is a success
[17:51] <Kilos> yeah starting from scratch every six months is expensive
[17:52] <somaunn> it's another feeling than what i've been experienceing with Gnome up to know
[17:52] <Kilos> now i can go three years and get next lts by the time its stable already
[17:53] <Kilos> and all bugs fixed
[17:55] <somaunn> Ek sien
[18:36] <Squirm> hi
[18:52] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[18:54] <z3r009> place seems dead.
[18:54] <Kilos> hi z3r009
[18:54] <z3r009> surp.
[18:54] <Kilos> everyone is working
[18:55] <Squirm> it is
[18:55] <Squirm> peeople are away
[18:55] <Squirm> :/
[18:57] <z3r009> i guess it can't be helped.
[18:57] <Kilos> yeah
[18:57] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za z3r009
[18:58] <Kilos> do you need linux help?
[18:58] <z3r009> nah, I just came to see what I might learn just hanging around here.
[18:59] <z3r009> i was also surprised by the za. so i thought i'd check it out.
[18:59] <Kilos> then hang daily. every now and again something interesting pops up
[18:59] <Kilos> za=zuid afrika
[19:05] <gremble> Like me
[19:08] <Kilos> hehe
[19:20] <somaunn> I'm back
[19:20] <Kilos> wb somaunn
[19:21] <somaunn> thanks
[19:23] <somaunn> wat ons reeds gepraat
[19:24] <Kilos> im lost
[19:24] <somaunn> wat ons praat oor al
[19:25] <somaunn> google was my friend for that firts sentence
[19:25] <Kilos> say it in english then ill give you the right sentence to use
[19:26] <somaunn> what where we talking about ?
[19:26] <Kilos> waarvan het ons gepraat
[19:26] <Kilos> or
[19:26] <Kilos> waar oor het ons gepraat
[19:27] <Kilos> you were talking about plasma5
[19:30] <somaunn> yeah
[19:31] <somaunn> to be implemented only with UB 15.04
[19:31] <Squirm> does anyone here do MDM
[19:32] <Kilos> they still have to get systemd and mir stable too dont they
[19:32] <Kilos> or is that sorted
[19:33] <gremble> MDM is drugs?
[19:33] <gremble> haha
[19:33] <gremble> I should check what packages I have installed on this system.  :P
[19:36] <Kilos> there must be a mathematical explanation
[19:36] <Kilos> everythings is maths isnt it
[19:36] <gremble> More probably a physics explanation. Mathematics is the study of abstract structures :P
[19:37] <gremble> I think it has to do with the rate of condensation
[19:37] <Kilos> ah
[19:37] <gremble> If it condensates quickly, the rain is able to persipitate
[19:37] <gremble> If it is slow, it gets blown away and turned into water vapour again
[19:37] <Kilos> so will it condense quick with a narrow temp diffs
[19:38] <gremble> I may be lying to you completely as well. Haha.  I haven't attended a Climate and Weather course yet. Probably next year though
[19:38] <Kilos> quicker
[19:38] <gremble> There is a girl that does differential equations with me that does climate and weather
[19:38] <Kilos> lol
[19:38] <gremble> ;)
[19:39] <Kilos> cool smile nicely at her then pop the question
[19:39] <Kilos> and paste the answer on slexy.org
[20:10] <Squirm> gnight
[20:44] <Kilos> night Squirm
[20:58] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight


[12:26] <bronson> I tried to build the kernel under pbuilder (thanks to kernel-wedge, I can no longer build 2.6.17 on Feisty)...  Apparently it uses /tmp/buildd heavily
[12:27] <bronson> Ran out of space on /tmp and the build died.
[12:27] <bronson> Has anyone worked around this?
[12:28] <Nafallo> bronson: /tmp/buildd in the chroot is not /tmp outside...
[12:28] <Nafallo> bronson: /var/cache/pbuilder/builds/$PID or something like that
[12:28] <Nafallo> might be build actually ;-)
[12:28] <bronson> Nafallo: good point.
[12:32] <bronson> Still investigating /tmp...  but I also see a whole bunch of "warning: no utmp entry available and LOGNAME not defined; using uid of process"
[12:32] <bronson> This is harmless, yes?
[12:33] <bronson> Google shows it appearing in a ton of build logs, but nobody really talks about it.
[12:33] <Nafallo> yes
[12:36] <bronson> DOH -- it was building in /var even though I thought I told it not to.
[02:27] <ekb-2> anyone know if the kernel config that is in /boot is the same one that is used to make the kernel and initrd that are on the live cd in the <cdrom>/casper dir?
[02:28] <Nafallo> should be
[02:30] <ekb-2> is there anything special that should be done to create the same initrd file?
[02:31] <ekb-2> i am modify in cd iso to boot my own kernel for the live install, and I want to make sure everything is as close to stock as I can make it.
[02:49] <kylem> morning all.
[02:49] <kylem> doh, wrong window.
[02:58] <zul> hey kylem
[02:59] <kylem> how was the hockey game?
[03:00] <zul> it was good my voice is hoarse
[05:11] <zul> hey BenC how was the flight?
[05:54] <jbailey> kylem: Hey - is iSCSI supported on Dapper?  I seem a module for it in Edgy, but I don't know if there are userspace daemons and such that need to go along with it.
[05:55] <kylem> jbailey, i don't think so, but let me check
[05:55] <jbailey> Thanks
[05:58] <kylem> we have the module built in dapper, but no userspace component.
[06:05] <jbailey> But it does need one?
[06:07] <kylem> i suspect so
[06:07] <kylem>          To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the
[06:07] <kylem>          module will be called iscsi_tcp.
[06:07] <kylem>          The userspace component needed to initialize the driver, documentation,
[06:07] <kylem>          and sample configuration files can be found here:
[06:07] <kylem>          http://linux-iscsi.sf.net
[06:07] <kylem> :P
[06:19] <fabbione> jbailey: userland just landed in debian
[06:19] <fabbione> and it should be ok with kernels < .18
[06:20] <fabbione> anyway.. back to family life..
[06:20] <fabbione> it's weekend
[06:21] <jbailey> fabbione: Do you know what it's called?  We should probalby request a sync for it for universe at least.
[06:22] <kylem> open-iscsi
[06:25] <fabbione> yes but be aware that the pkgs is not complete
[06:25] <fabbione> jbailey: you want to talk to fs here on freenode or waldi
[06:25] <fabbione> they maintain the pkgs and fs and I did talk quickly about it a couple of days back
[06:27] <fabbione> family time!
[06:28] <jbailey> fabbione: Aren't you the Ubuntu Server Manager? ;)
[07:54] <zul> wowo...xensource made the great leep forward they updated their sparse-tree to 2.6.17
[08:07] <maks_> the in kernel stuff kvm looks nicer
[08:08] <Nafallo> maks_: google says XEN is better for compiling :-)
[08:08] <maks_> compiling what?
[08:10] <Nafallo> whatever :-)
[08:10] <Nafallo> lame and a kernel 2.6.19 on the review ;-)
[08:11] <maks_> kvm with paravirt patch?
[08:14] <Nafallo> maks_: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=623&num=1
[08:19] <maks_> seems already old
[08:20] <Nafallo> :-P
[08:33] <zul> Nafallo: which means i might be able to update the kernel in dapper now
[08:33] <zul> er i mean dapper
[08:33] <zul> gah...edgy
[08:34] <Nafallo> zul: oh. something that even works on amd64? :-)
[08:34] <zul> yeah
[08:35] <Nafallo> nice :-)
[08:35] <Nafallo> zul: oh! 32-bit host with 64-bit guest should work on full virt, right? :-)
[08:36] <Nafallo> zul: if you don't know I'll test when there are working XEN-stuff in edgy :-)
[08:46] <bronson_> error: linux/compiler.h: No such file or directory    <-- this is harmless, yes?  I'm building latest Edgy 2.6.17 on amd64.
[10:26] <many> heya. ive some oddity with feisty/fglrx.  a modprobe is just hanging forever and iam seeking clues on whats wrong
[10:28] <many> ``modprobe --ignore-install -Qb fglrx'' is in ``D''isk IO state


[04:44] <ishwon> well... well... good morning africa :-)
[04:45] <ishwon> sorry folks, couldn't join you last night.
[06:00] <Kilos> hellooo africa
[10:44] <elacheche> Hey guys!
[10:44] <elacheche> This may be off-topic, but maybe someone did it before → https://twitter.com/elacheche/status/580674804350603264
[10:44] <Kilos> hi elacheche
[10:45] <Kilos> we dont have a topic here
[10:47] <Kilos> stickyboy  what you got hidden in the git place for this ^^
[10:47] <elacheche> The main topic is "Ubuntu based discussions" :D
[10:48] <Kilos> iptables are part of ubuntu
[10:48] <Kilos> but all linux is welcome here
[10:48] <Kilos> some of the lug guys are pretty clued up
[10:51] <elacheche> :) Actually I'm planning to migrate from a Linux based GW server (Endian FW) to a BSD one (pfSense).. I have almost 700 rules in my iptables on efw, pfSense uses pf as firwall so I need to find a way to automate this thing :D otherwise I'll keep the weekend trying to script this ..
[10:52] <Kilos> lol good luck
[11:03] <elacheche> thx
[11:04] <stickyboy> Kilos: Git?
[11:05] <Kilos> there where you keep your stuff man , github
[11:08] <stickyboy> Kilos: Yeah, what about it? I didn't get the contenxt. :D
[11:09] <Kilos> https://twitter.com/elacheche/status/580674804350603264
[11:12] <elacheche> stickyboy, Hello from Tunisia :D
[11:27] <Kilos> hmm... too much rap has slowed him down looks like
[12:00] <stickyboy> elacheche: Hi :D
[12:00] <stickyboy> Man, it's hot in Nairobi.
[12:00] <stickyboy> Goddddddd.
[12:00] <stickyboy> elacheche: I've never used pf so I don't really know. :D
[12:15] <elacheche> thanks anyway stickyboy :) :D
[12:41] <inetpro> elacheche: that sounds like an interesting challenge
[12:41]  * inetpro unfortunately don't have an answer to that
[12:42] <inetpro> let us know when you find the solution
[12:50] <elacheche> inetpro, that's for sure :) if can't find someone did this, I'll analyse and understand my iptables-save outputs (700 lines :D) and master the pf config then findout a way o script the migration..
[13:19] <stickyboy> I'm all about vimdiff... but when I have X11 I prefer meld. :D
[13:19] <stickyboy> inetpro: Do you know how to use vimdiff?
[14:13] <inetpro> stickyboy: I like kompare actually
[14:14] <stickyboy> inetpro: Ah, I'm alergic to Qt.
[14:17] <stickyboy> inetpro: Do you know anything about Infiniband?


[12:56] <SanGohan> salut les gens
[12:56] <SanGohan> hello world
[12:56] <SanGohan> got a question
[12:59] <SanGohan> when lucid will arrive, will our studio be affected (of course with the sources.list) but do you think some softwares will be really upgraded with our studio configuration? thanks
[13:00] <SanGohan> or is it more safe to wait the studio team to check is everything is allright? thanks
[13:02] <astraljava> SanGohan: The software is the same as with the Ubuntu vanilla. Whatever you use on plain Ubuntu, you use with Ubuntu Studio. Everything you install on US, you can install on Ubuntu.
[13:02] <astraljava> SanGohan: Ubuntu Studio is just a branding, with carefully thought out _default_ software, with themes and certain other structures.
[13:03] <astraljava> SanGohan: But the grounds are the same.
[13:04] <SanGohan> yes you're right. when i install servers, i'm working with pure debian, but i have to admit that ubuntustudio is working fine in desktop environment. excuse my english if i don't speak well, i need some vocabulary and some gramatical structures ;) but thanks for your answer :)
[13:05] <SanGohan> the only thing i saw, is that the last time i was upgrading studio, i got problems
[13:06] <astraljava> SanGohan: Your English is totally fine with me, I understand completely. Hell, it's not my native language either. :)
[13:06] <astraljava> SanGohan: Do you recall what sort of problems you encountered?
[13:06] <SanGohan> ok :)
[13:08] <rlameiro> good thing now ia that jack is on the main repository, and is configured at installation time
[13:08] <astraljava> SanGohan: Testing with Studio setup is on-going for the devel cycle, so you can say that the team is checking that everything is alright.
[13:08] <rlameiro> also
[13:08] <rlameiro> ardour and a lot of other software are being upgraded
[13:08] <SanGohan> yes, i started studio with 8 and each time i was upgrading. but i notice instability, at the boot, sometimes, i got errors with "unread ..etc." (i have to note it to give you). the GUI was instable too. and some network services like SMB were working one time of 2...
[13:08] <rlameiro> and the defaul guitar effects is now rakarrack
[13:09] <rlameiro> creox is out of the "default" ubuntu studio
[13:10] <SanGohan> even on laptop and desktop. architecture is X86
[13:11] <rlameiro> well, now i am runnig on it
[13:11] <rlameiro> i dont have errors
[13:12] <rlameiro> about the display, it can be because the drivers you use
[13:13] <SanGohan> yes you're right
[13:13] <rlameiro> yor graphic card, is it nvidia or ati?
[13:13] <SanGohan> about the drivers. but with the boot sequence..i don't understand, i never saw that
[13:13] <SanGohan> it's not blocking
[13:13] <rlameiro> SanGohan: well, sometimes thats happens
[13:14] <SanGohan> but "désagréable"
[13:14] <rlameiro> but if the sistem boots and works, normally are erros that dont harm
[13:14] <SanGohan> yes,infortunately ;) but this is our goal, to manipulate and have errors ;) it's exciting for us, engineers :D
[13:15] <rlameiro> SanGohan: You know, before linux didnt had a graphic login... the boot process was a bunch of lines printed on the screen
[13:15] <rlameiro> lol
[13:15] <rlameiro> old times
[13:19] <astraljava> Err... I always disable the splash, and watch the normal boot process instead.
[13:19] <astraljava> usplash*
[18:37] <mezquitale> when is lucid going to be released?? O_o
[18:38] <mezquitale> whatever happ[ened to jussi01?!?
[18:52] <astraljava> mezquitale: Lucid is out tomorrow.
[18:52] <astraljava> I dunno, just needed a nickcut?
[18:53] <mezquitale> LoL
[18:53] <mezquitale> so now it's just jussi??
[18:53] <mezquitale> no more 01?
[18:53] <mezquitale> jussi, where art thou!
[18:53] <jussi> I dont exist anymore! :P
[18:53] <mezquitale> i mean besides the point
[18:54] <mezquitale> astraljava, do i should be able to download the DVD ISO tomorrow then?
[18:54] <mezquitale> jussi, what happened to the 01? O_o
[18:55] <mezquitale> astraljava, **so** I should be able to download the DVD ISO tomorrow?
[19:04] <astraljava> Oh, I didn't realize I was in the US channel. Someone else from the team should be able to answer that one, but Ubuntu vanilla is released tomorrow.
[19:05] <mezquitale> astraljava, ubuntu vanilla is released right now, i was officially released a few minutes I go, I just downloaded the ISO using the torrent
[19:05] <mezquitale> astraljava, **it** was officially released a few minutes ago
[19:11] <astraljava> Oops, so it seems. I was certain it was not until tomorrow. Oh well...
[19:13] <tucemiux> astraljava, if it's april 28 in your part of the world then it was released early, its april 29 in most part of the world, it's already the 30th in japan
[19:14] <astraljava> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/10.04/release/
[19:16] <tucemiux> astraljava, thanks!  we got us a winner!!!  I'm actually going to upgrade this time, as oppose to do a clean install from an ISO, im most definetely not configuring all my appz in my server
[19:17] <astraljava> tucemiux: You have US as a server?! You're kinky. :D
[19:23] <tucemiux> astraljava, im using ubuntustudio as an ssh server :-)  Nothing big though, im the only one that uses it for my own personal use
[19:43] <astraljava> Okay, that makes more sense. :)
[23:45] <digitaloktay> hi
[23:45] <digitaloktay> does working rt-kernel with nvidia driver ?


[00:00] <brainwash> now would be the time to contribute
[00:01] <brainwash> 4.14 release is in few months
[00:04] <xubuntu91w> i reported some bugs back in 2014, a few got fixed and want to report some more
[00:08] <xubuntu91w> first router is messing up then firefox :D
[00:13] <xubuntu91w> happy that i initiated getting this fixed - https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10864
[00:19] <xubuntu91w> brainwash, Unit193: thanks for the help
[06:26] <Jonopoly> is xubuntu still one of the lighest ubuntu flavours?
[06:26] <Jonopoly> like compared to ubuntu-mate and lubuntu ?
[06:33] <diogenes_> Jonopoly, yes.
[06:39] <Jonopoly> I'm using ubuntu-mate now because its quite light and my laptop is old
[06:39] <Jonopoly> but from what i've seen on /r/unixporn xfce seems to be one of the most popular
[06:39] <diogenes_> good.
[06:39] <Jonopoly> for light and customistation
[06:40] <Unit193> Jonopoly: Xubuntu's focus isn't to be lightweight, but it tends to be less needy than KDE or GNOME at least.
[06:41] <Jonopoly> yeah, from what i remember Im sure it's pretty light out of the box
[06:41] <Jonopoly> but is very customisable
[06:42] <knome> indeed. user-friendly too.
[06:44] <Jonopoly> oh is it?
[06:45] <Jonopoly> knome: well that's a plus - because i plan on installing it on my parents laptop and finally remove windows 7.....
[06:45] <knome> well, at least from my opinion. and from my experience compared to some of the other even lighter alternatives
[06:46] <Jonopoly> Well i just want an 'offical flavour' and user-friendly | light | customisable
[06:53] <Unit193> I like Sherbet as my official flavor
[12:37] <Guest95161> Hello, I have come here for assistance if you can afford to help me. I'm running Xubuntu 19.04, when I edit my connection preferences for my ethernet adapter "Automatically Connect to VPN" - - it works but it stops auto-connecting my ethernet at startup. I have to manually start it through the network panel.
[12:38] <Guest95161> Then it works as expected, auto connects to the VPN with the adapter. But it's annoying having to manually activate it on start, and means I also have to manually map my network drive since it can't find it.
[12:42] <Guest95161> Trying this with startup, will brb. nmcli con up uuid <put you UUID here>
[12:47] <xubuntu37w> it's me again, well it works, but you have to put the UUID for the ethernet adapter, not the VPN
[12:47] <xubuntu37w> this makes sense.
[12:47] <xubuntu37w> thanks, I will be on my way now. have a good weekend.
[16:05] <jwvh> I am new to Xubuntu and am having a problem updating. I get a message that says "The package system is broken". The problem is related to plymouth. I have tried the fixes in the dialog box and searched on line without success. I could sure use some help.
[16:06] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: did you have a power outage while updating?
[16:06] <pmjdebruijn> that kinda stuff doesn't usually "just happen"
[16:06] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: do you have any clue, what might have caused it?
[16:06] <jwvh> That is a possibility.
[16:07] <jwvh> No idea. Everything seemed fine. I don't think I did anything unusual.
[16:07] <pmjdebruijn> what you can try is, opening a terminal emulator, and typing, 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[16:07] <jwvh> I will do that now. Thanks for the clue!
[16:08] <pmjdebruijn> if that doesn't fix it, please do post the output of those commands on pastebin.com
[16:09] <jwvh> I continue to get the error with Plymouth. I have seen others post output but I don't know how to do it.
[16:11] <TJ-> jwvh: start a terminal, do "sudo apt update && sudo apt-get --fix-broken install" - that may help
[16:11] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: just copy the output to pastebin.com, and submit it, and paste the link pastebin.com gives you back here
[16:19] <jwvh> https://pastebin.com/fcUusyyw
[16:19] <jwvh> Is this right?
[16:21] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: that is superstrange
[16:22] <jwvh> Leave it to me.
[16:22] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: have you added any external repositories
[16:22] <jwvh> I do but I think I eliminated them all.
[16:22] <pmjdebruijn> you added a repository that included plymouth?
[16:23] <TJ-> it does look like one of those packages isn't from the archive
[16:23] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: do you recall which repository your broken plymouth package came from?
[16:24] <TJ-> libplymouth2 is not from 18.04, that'll be 16.04 I think
[16:24] <jwvh> I don't know. One repository that I added had to do with miktex. I have also installed Anaconda.
[16:24] <pmjdebruijn> anaconda?
[16:24] <pmjdebruijn> on xubuntu?
[16:24] <TJ-> ahh, before 16.04 even, so very old
[16:24]  * pmjdebruijn is heavily confused
[16:25] <jwvh> anaconda = scientific python
[16:25] <pmjdebruijn> oooooh
[16:25] <pmjdebruijn> I thought the redhat installer :)
[16:25] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: could you do a apt-cache show plymouth2 and pastebin that
[16:26] <jwvh> Sure. Hey, thanks for all of your help!
[16:27] <TJ-> libplymouth2 latest in Ubuntu was 2013, plymouth_0.9.3-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:27] <TJ-> well darn, that wasn't what I just put in the clipboard!
[16:27] <TJ-> libplymouth2_0.8.8-0ubuntu8_arm64.deb  -that is better
[16:27] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: did you attempt a major version upgrade recently?
[16:27] <pmjdebruijn> maybe skipping a few versions?
[16:28] <jwvh> Ran your command and found "Unable to locate package plymouth2"
[16:28] <pmjdebruijn> sorry
[16:28] <jwvh> New and only install about 3 months ago on new box.
[16:28] <pmjdebruijn> apt-cache show libplymouth2
[16:29] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: that sound near impossible
[16:29] <pmjdebruijn> i'm not calling you a liar btw :)
[16:29] <pmjdebruijn> but something very strange is going on
[16:30]  * pmjdebruijn is very curious to the apt-cache output
[16:31] <jwvh> Sorry this is such a pain. The new link is https://pastebin.com/LzBYk2xT
[16:31] <pmjdebruijn> that's package from ubuntu 14.04
[16:32] <pmjdebruijn> most likely
[16:32] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: you installed using a standard xubuntu-18.04 iso from the xubuntu website?
[16:32] <pmjdebruijn> the big question is now whether we can remove the package
[16:33] <pmjdebruijn> you can try 'sudo apt-get purge libplymouth2'
[16:33] <pmjdebruijn> but that might not work
[16:33] <pmjdebruijn> and maybe don't force it to proceeed yet
[16:33] <pmjdebruijn> if it complains, please pastebin the output
[16:34] <jwvh> Yes, online install from xbuntu site. FYI, I just saw your earlier comment. I am completely new to this and am not offended. Happy for your help.
[16:34] <pmjdebruijn> can your try the purge command
[16:34] <pmjdebruijn> but don't let it proceed if it complains just yet
[16:34] <pmjdebruijn> if it runs automatically then it'll be fine (probably)
[16:35] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: btw, before you do anything, it might be wise to backup any import data you have onto an usb drive or something
[16:35] <pmjdebruijn> while any command will not likely cause data loss
[16:35] <pmjdebruijn> we are messing with the boot process
[16:35] <pmjdebruijn> so if things go badly, you may end up with boot problems
[16:35] <jwvh> It complained. I am not so deep into the install that it would be terrible to install again.
[16:36] <pmjdebruijn> what's the output exactly
[16:36] <pmjdebruijn> please post on pastebin again
[16:36] <jwvh> Will do
[16:37] <jwvh> https://pastebin.com/aWpCSAcP
[16:38] <pmjdebruijn> hmmmr
[16:38] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: can you post 'grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*' on pastebin too
[16:38] <TJ-> the clue in the apt-cache output shows its from a PPA:  "Replaces: plymouth (<< 0.7.0+git20090207-0ubuntu0.1~ppa4)"
[16:39] <jwvh> Will try now
[16:39] <pmjdebruijn> TJ-: i'm not sure actually, if you google that string, you find a launchpad page that it may very well have been from 14.04 proper
[16:39] <pmjdebruijn> TJ-: preplaces just means the packages account for ANOTHER version from a PPA
[16:40] <pmjdebruijn> although it's uncommon to see this in mainline
[16:41] <TJ-> pmjdebruijn: ahh yes, it may be a hold-over from the plymouth-devs PPA
[16:41] <pmjdebruijn> right
[16:41] <pmjdebruijn> something like that
[16:41] <TJ-> I see that version in their PPA still
[16:41] <pmjdebruijn> lol
[16:41] <TJ-> https://launchpad.net/~plymouth-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[16:41] <pmjdebruijn> right
[16:42] <jwvh> miktex is my Latex app. vscode installed with Anaconda https://pastebin.com/2hf9sHN9
[16:42] <TJ-> presumably libplymouth2 graduated to the archive from there
[16:43] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: that doesn't seem too strange
[16:43] <pmjdebruijn> just curious why install miktex, ubuntu has texlive in the mainline repos FYI
[16:44] <jwvh> In retrospect I regret miktex. Worked with it before so seemed natural.
[16:44] <pmjdebruijn> fair enough
[16:44] <pmjdebruijn> not that there's anything particularly wrong with miktex
[16:44] <pmjdebruijn> I'd just avoid adding repos whenever reasonably possible
[16:44] <jwvh> Happy to remove it an d learn texlive.
[16:45] <pmjdebruijn> I don't see the anaconda repo
[16:45] <jwvh> Lesson learened. :)
[16:45] <pmjdebruijn> do you still have a reference to it
[16:45] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: I doubt miktex caused your particular issue though
[16:47] <jwvh> repo.anaconda.com
[16:47] <pmjdebruijn> can you try 'apt-cache rdepends libplymouth2'
[16:48] <jwvh> Reverse Depends:  That's it.
[16:49] <pmjdebruijn> hmmmr
[16:50] <TJ-> it looks like the system has partial lists, explains the 18.04.1 vs 18.04.2
[16:50] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: can you try 'sudo find /var/cache/apt -iname libplymouth2*deb'
[16:50] <pmjdebruijn> TJ-: but that doesn't explain our root problem here :)
[16:50] <jwvh> Will do.
[16:51] <pmjdebruijn> to be honest, you best recourse is probably reinstall, as that gives you a determistic result, in a determistic amount of time
[16:51] <pmjdebruijn> the reason i'm asking things, is to figure out why
[16:51] <pmjdebruijn> so you know what went wrong
[16:51] <TJ-> it does - I've seen this several times in #ubuntu where the package lists are inconsistent, e.g. bionic-updates has been removed sources.list
[16:51] <pmjdebruijn> and thus may more easily avoid it in the future
[16:52] <pmjdebruijn> TJ-: how does that explain a 14.04 package being on there
[16:52] <pmjdebruijn> having a missing repo, may explain why you don't have certain things, not that you suddenly have extra things :)
[16:52] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: does 'sudo apt-get update' run without issue?
[16:53] <TJ-> pmjdebruijn: I'm not on about that, I'm on about the others like plymouth-label
[16:53] <pmjdebruijn> oh
[16:54] <jwvh> I ran your earlier command and just got a prompt back.  the apt-get command gives the same problem.
[16:54] <pmjdebruijn> so find gives no output
[16:54] <jwvh> Correct
[16:54] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: sudo apt-get update also complains about consistency?
[16:55] <jwvh> Yes. I can run and paste for you. Also, I don't want to waste your time. Can fresh install.
[16:55] <TJ-> As in "plymouth-label : Depends: plymouth (= 0.9.3-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) but 0.9.3-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is to be installed" means that the current bionic-updates lists are from before 18.04.2 was released so trying to grab 18.04.1 which has long gone
[16:56] <TJ-> I'd rm the lists and re-fetch them
[16:57] <jwvh> update commend: https://pastebin.com/uMGAmtPz
[17:01] <jwvh> TJ: If that was directed at me, I don't know how to do what you have suggested.
[17:01] <pmjdebruijn> jwvh: it's not the error, that tell you have miktex repo is unsuitable for your system
[17:01] <pmjdebruijn> damn engrish
[17:02] <jwvh> I see. I didn't understand.
[17:03] <pmjdebruijn> the update error tells you the miktex repository is not really suitable for your system
[17:04] <jwvh> Okay thanks. Do you have a recommendation as to what I should do?
[17:05] <pmjdebruijn> not really to be honest
[17:05] <jwvh> Thanks for the honesty. I really appreciate all of your time and your help. Like I said I only have a few things installed. I can start again.
[17:13] <TJ-> jwvh: if you want to try brute-force removal: "sudo dpkg -r libplymouth2" followed by "sudo apt update; sudo apt --fix-broken"
[17:15] <pmjdebruijn> ah right
[17:15] <pmjdebruijn> damn he left
[17:15] <TJ-> never mind... amazes me how folks manage to break things so well
[17:16] <pmjdebruijn> same here
[17:16] <pmjdebruijn> at least that guy was super cooperative :)
[17:16] <pmjdebruijn> if everybody asking for help was that friendly
[17:17] <TJ-> generally in #ubuntu I don't seem many not being friendly; some get annoyed with frustration of course but I find if the context is explained to them they appreciate the complexity of diagnosing and solving
[17:18] <TJ-> I find pastebinit is a life-saver in diagnosing issues rapidly
[17:19] <pmjdebruijn> blah | pastebinit ?
[17:19] <pmjdebruijn> tee for the cloud !
[17:19] <TJ-> nah, "pastebinit <( cmd1; cmd2; cmd3; cmd4; cmd5; )"
[17:19] <TJ-> can collect everything needed in one pass
[18:01] <xubuntu84w> hi i have virtualbox to download windows 10 but am having trouble
[18:03] <xubuntu84w> the results:uld not get the storage format of the medium '/home/hey/Desktop/Win10_1803_English_x32.iso' (VERR_NOT_SUPPORTED).   Result Code:  VBOX_E_IPRT_ERROR (0x80BB0005) Component:  MediumWrap Interface:  IMedium {4afe423b-43e0-e9d0-82e8-ceb307940dda} Callee:  IVirtualBox {9570b9d5-f1a1-448a-10c5-e12f5285adad} Callee RC:  VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80BB0001)
[18:11] <xubuntu84w> hello
[18:12] <xubuntu43w> hi i am in major need of help
[18:12] <diogenes_> have you made any tweaks?
[18:13] <xubuntu43w> i am trying to use virtual box am having trouble
[18:13] <diogenes_> also try asking in /j #vbox
[18:13] <diogenes_> also
[18:14] <diogenes_> if vbox doesn't work, try vmware player
[18:14] <xubuntu43w> uld not get the storage format of the medium '/home/hey/Desktop/Win10_1803_English_x32.iso' (VERR_NOT_SUPPORTED).   Result Code:  VBOX_E_IPRT_ERROR (0x80BB0005) Component:  MediumWrap Interface:  IMedium {4afe423b-43e0-e9d0-82e8-ceb307940dda} Callee:  IVirtualBox {9570b9d5-f1a1-448a-10c5-e12f5285adad} Callee RC:  VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80BB0001)
[18:15] <xubuntu43w> this is what it sauid trying to add windows 10 iso'
[18:15] <diogenes_> hello have you noticed me? :)
[18:16]  * diogenes_ waves
[18:16] <xubuntu43w> how do i get vmware player
[18:17] <xubuntu43w> all i want is play yandere simulator -_-
[18:18] <xubuntu43w> but do i install vmware player like i install virtualbox
[18:18] <diogenes_> xubuntu43w, follow this guide: https://itsfoss.com/install-vmware-player-ubuntu-1310/
[18:18] <xubuntu43w> i hope this work
[18:20] <Iolo> Just a heads up: I can't say for sure, but I think that unless you're doing GPU passthrough for the VM, Yandere Simulator will perform poorly to the point of being unplayable.
[18:21] <diogenes_> i've heard vmware has an improved 3d acceleration performance but i haven't tried it myself.
[18:22] <xubuntu43w> i also have a usb is there a better way i want 7 but it ask for windows key
[18:22] <diogenes_> xubuntu43w, if you download the windows 10 iso directly from microsoft website, it should be working fine.
[18:23] <xubuntu43w> i dont know why it not
[18:25] <xubuntu43w> imma try it with the 32 bit
[18:30] <xubuntu43w> it says someting about 50% of my storage being used what should i do
[18:31] <diogenes_> xubuntu43w, what says? when says? details...
[18:33] <xubuntu43w> more tha 50% storage is used n1.56 is used by the vb machine there might not be much memory left for host comptor
[18:33] <xubuntu43w> 1.56 Gb
[18:37] <xubuntu43w> any ideas
[18:37] <diogenes_> yep you've got not that much ram apparently, but what is that program you trying to run, doesn't it work under wine? playonlinux? have you tried?
[18:38] <xubuntu43w> nope my first linux laptop
[18:39] <diogenes_> have you downloaded yourprogram.exe?
[18:39] <xubuntu43w> nope havent tried that either
[18:39] <xubuntu43w> dont know how
[18:40] <diogenes_> ok wait
[18:42] <diogenes_> xubuntu43w, yep there are chances you could run it with wine, have you downloaded  yandere simulator in your pc already?
[18:44] <xubuntu43w> no idk how to run it on wine i can re download it
[18:44] <diogenes_> xubuntu43w, ok wait let me try it first and if it runs for me then it should run for you too.
[18:52] <diogenes_> xubuntu43w, nah that's crazy, i tried to download it but it doesn't show the file size and i've got a limited bandwidth here so i stopped it at 170 MB, but you can download it and we can try how it runs on your end.
[18:52] <diogenes_> here is the link: https://dl.yanderesimulator.com/latest.zip
[18:52] <xubuntu43w> how do i download wine
[18:53] <diogenes_> first download that package then in terminal (if you want to use terminal) run: sudo apt install wine
[18:54] <diogenes_> if you don't wanna use terminal just tell me and i will provide you with a graphical way of installing it.
[18:54] <xubuntu43w>  using terminal
[18:54] <diogenes_> great.
[18:55] <xubuntu43w> it says wine has no installation canidate
[18:57] <Iolo> What does the command "lsb_release -a" output?
[18:57] <diogenes_> probably you should first run: sudo apt update
[18:58] <diogenes_> then: sudo apt upgrade
[18:58] <diogenes_> then reboot and only after all that you run: sudo apt install wine
[18:59] <xubuntu43w> reboot my whole computer ( no linux smart)
[18:59] <diogenes_> xubuntu43w, you will have to reboot it only if you see a kernel upgrade.
[18:59] <diogenes_> which will most likely happen.
[19:01] <xubuntu43w> oh
[19:02] <xubuntu43w> upgrading now
[19:05] <xubuntu43w> what is kernal mupgrade
[19:06] <Iolo> In a technical sense, the kernel is Linux. If you see Linux on the list of programs to be upgraded, that means you have a kernel upgrade.
[19:07] <xubuntu43w> oh
[19:11] <xubuntu43w> taking long time sorry
[19:14] <qwebirc68086> hello
[19:15] <qwebirc68086> I done a big silly
[19:16] <qwebirc68086> b@bbb:/usr/bin$ ldd qbittorrent ./qbittorrent: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5DBus.so.5: version `Qt_5' not found (required by ./qbittorrent)
[19:16] <qwebirc68086> I copied a lib from something else to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[19:16] <qwebirc68086> tried purging/removing qt5-default and reinstalling
[19:17] <qwebirc68086> now I get qbittorrent: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:17] <qwebirc68086> is this just an expensive lesson?
[19:20] <diogenes_> qwebirc68086, do you have  libpng12 installed?
[19:20] <qwebirc68086> @diogenes_: no, I was trying to install it for another program (packet tracer). so I did (as advised somewhere else, lol): #cp /opt/pt/lib/libQt5* /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[19:20] <qwebirc68086> pretty sure that's what broke it
[19:20] <qwebirc68086> now it just demands libpng12 for qbittorrent
[19:21] <qwebirc68086> can't even install libpng12 for some reason, tried the deb
[19:21] <qwebirc68086> and old repo
[19:22] <diogenes_> qwebirc68086, welcome to dependency hell.
[19:22] <qwebirc68086> diogenes_ am I screwed? I don't mind Packet tracer, can just use wine, but qb would warrant a reinstall
[19:24] <diogenes_> qwebirc68086, but can you do a: apt update apt upgrade with no errors?
[19:25] <qwebirc68086> diogenes_ 0 errors
[19:26] <diogenes_> then it's not that hopeless, try: apt autoremove
[19:26] <diogenes_> sudo apt install -f
[19:29] <qwebirc68086> did that, no erorrs, same problem
[19:30] <qwebirc68086> https://pastebin.com/pnk3vX14
[19:30] <diogenes_> so what error you get when installing libpng12?
[19:32] <qwebirc68086> dpkg: error processing archive libpng12-0_1.2.50-2+deb8u3_amd64.deb (--install):  unable to install new version of '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0': No such file or directory
[19:32] <qwebirc68086> from the deb, and from the old repo:
[19:34] <qwebirc68086> https://pastebin.com/nucsNkEF
[19:35] <xubuntu43w> it not leting me upgrade
[19:35] <diogenes_> qwebirc68086, oh damn, you got aliens in your pc, what is this repo? http://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/ubuntu xenial/main
[19:35] <diogenes_> it's not supposed to be there, remove it and apt update
[19:36] <diogenes_> xubuntu43w, why?
[19:36] <qwebirc68086> done
[19:36] <qwebirc68086> now I'll find another repo for libpng12-0
[19:38] <xubuntu43w> say unable to fetch archives missing maybe run apt get
[19:38] <qwebirc68086> I will use deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security main
[19:39] <qwebirc68086> https://pastebin.com/bUDANfEW
[19:39] <diogenes_> xubuntu43w, then try again: sudo apt upgrade
[19:39] <qwebirc68086> reported 0
[19:39] <qwebirc68086> oh sorry
[19:39] <qwebirc68086> you meant him
[19:40] <xubuntu43w> am her
[19:40] <qwebirc68086> apologies m'lady
[19:41] <diogenes_> qwebirc68086, try: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libpng12-0_1.2.54-1ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb
[19:41] <diogenes_> and try again.
[19:42] <qwebirc68086> no dice diogenes_
[19:42] <qwebirc68086> but thanks
[19:43] <diogenes_> qwebirc68086, i'm too tired now to dig deeper than that because it's close to midnight here, maybe someone else is willing but if i were yu, i'd have taked 15 minutes to re-install.
[19:43] <qwebirc68086> reinstall means losing everything though right?
[19:43] <qwebirc68086> no worries but thanks
[19:44] <qwebirc68086> I dug this grave myself
[19:44] <diogenes_> no problem.
[19:51] <xubuntu31w> hello ineed help
[19:51] <diogenes_> nice
[20:04] <xubuntu18d> hi need assitance
[20:05] <diogenes_> !ask
[20:06] <xubuntu18d> hey diogenes its me about wine
[20:06] <diogenes_> and?
[20:07] <xubuntu18d> i got it to update
[20:07] <xubuntu18d> imma need the command again
[20:07] <diogenes_> sudo apt install wine
[20:22] <xubuntu18d> it saying wine dont have a instalation canidate
[20:24] <diogenes_> xubuntu18d, ok run this in terminal: inxi -Fxcr | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:24] <diogenes_> you gonna get a link, share that link here.
[20:27] <xubuntu18d> https://termbin.com/enzs
[20:28] <xubuntu18d> now what do i do
[20:30] <diogenes_> xubuntu18d, ok let's try this: sudo apt install synaptic
[20:34] <xubuntu18d> done what do i do know
[20:34] <diogenes_> did it install?
[20:34] <xubuntu18d> yes
[20:35] <diogenes_> ok now open the menu and type in: synaptic and open it.
[20:35] <xubuntu18d> opened
[20:35] <diogenes_> now there is a search option, type in: wine
[20:35] <diogenes_> see if you get any results.
[20:37] <xubuntu18d> i got a lot of results
[20:37] <xubuntu18d> fonts wine
[20:38] <diogenes_> ok make a screenshot and share here
[20:39] <xubuntu18d> how
[20:39] <Krennic> hmm
[20:40] <xubuntu18d> how do i share
[20:40] <diogenes_> xubuntu18d, open the menu, type in: screenshot > entire screen click on then host to imgur
[20:40] <diogenes_> you gonna get a link, that's what you have to share here.
[20:40] <diogenes_> click ok*
[20:41] <xubuntu18d> no link
[20:41] <diogenes_> what did you get?
[20:42] <xubuntu18d> a skip  un o card sign
[20:42] <diogenes_> what it's written in there?
[20:43] <xubuntu18d> nothing
[20:44] <diogenes_> ok in terminal run: xfce4-screenshooter
[20:45] <xubuntu18d> Screenshot_2019-05-11_16-45-30.png
[20:47] <xubuntu18d> i cant add link
[20:47] <diogenes_> ok so it's saved on your computer right? now in your browser go to imgur.com and just drag-and-drop that pictute in there, you gonna get a link, that link you have to share.
[20:52] <Jonopoly> Well i'm off to install xubuntu
[20:52] <Jonopoly> and see how it compares to ubuntu-mate
[20:55] <xubuntu18d> https://imgur.com/iTgld9N
[20:59] <xubuntu18d> https://imgur.com/BOtOXR2
[21:00] <diogenes_> xubuntu18d, run: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:01] <diogenes_> share the link here
[21:03] <xubuntu18d> https://imgur.com/9Ah1JtY
[21:04] <xubuntu18d> https://termbin.com/fuyc
[21:04] <xubuntu18d> what do i do
[21:06] <diogenes_> xubuntu18d, in terminal try: sudo apt install wine64
[21:09] <diogenes_> i can't believe those old good times went away when you just did apt-get install wine :(
[21:10] <xubuntu18d> unable to aquire dpkg frontend lock is asing itn other process u
[21:11] <diogenes_> yeah first close synaptic then try again.
[21:19] <xubuntu18d> uploading
[21:23] <xubuntu18d> it uploaded
[21:23] <diogenes_> xubuntu18d, uploaded what?
[21:24] <xubuntu18d> wine64
[21:24] <diogenes_> you mean downloading and installing?
[21:25] <xubuntu18d> yes it finished
[21:25] <diogenes_> ok now run: sudo apt install wine32
[21:27] <xubuntu18d> Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
[21:28] <diogenes_> don't pay attention to that jsut tell me when it's done installing.
[21:28] <xubuntu18d> done tho
[21:28] <xubuntu18d> what do i do next
[21:29] <xubuntu18d> it done installing
[21:29] <diogenes_> xubuntu18d, now run: wine --version
[21:29] <diogenes_> and just tell me whet is says
[21:30] <xubuntu18d> wine-3.0 (Ubuntu 3.0-1ubuntu1)
[21:31] <xubuntu18d> what do i do
[21:31] <diogenes_> ok now run: winecfg
[21:31] <diogenes_> it will prompt you to download some packages, accept it.
[21:31] <diogenes_> tell me when done.
[21:33] <xubuntu18d> Could not load wine-gecko. HTML rendering will be disabled.
[21:33] <diogenes_> no problem.
[21:34] <xubuntu18d> but wine say it updating
[21:35] <diogenes_> tell me when done.
[21:35] <xubuntu18d> its done it open wine configuration
[21:35] <diogenes_> ok close it now.
[21:35] <xubuntu18d> what do i do
[21:36] <xubuntu18d> i closed it
[21:36] <diogenes_> ok now run: wget https://yanderesimulator.com/YandereSimLauncher.exe
[21:37] <xubuntu18d> done now what
[21:37] <diogenes_> now the moment of truth, run: wine YandereSimLauncher.exe
[21:38] <xubuntu18d> 0009:err:mscoree:CLRRuntimeInfo_GetRuntimeHost Wine Mono is not installed
[21:38] <diogenes_> run: sudo apt install wine-mono
[21:39] <xubuntu18d> Unable to locate package wine-mono
[21:40] <xubuntu18d> what do i do
[21:42] <diogenes_> xubuntu18d, ok, it will take a good fight to make it fly but as for now i'm way too tired to continue so you've got the following options: 1) wait until someone here will try to continue the battle 2) come back tomorrow and we continue 3) do a google research
[21:43] <diogenes_> bye bye
[21:43]  * diogenes_ is offline
[22:43] <xubuntu26w> Hi I need help with wine setup
[22:44] <xubuntu26w> Hello
[22:56] <xubuntu31w> Hi how you download wine
[23:01] <well_laid_lawn> !wine