[12:10] <solus_> so, the next question, the usbs, those ive known that i would have to do something to get to work since i installed kubuntu, but i really dont know enough about linux yet to understand the ocumentation on that
[12:10] <swatgoss> solus_ do you searched the USb controler on your laptop ?
[12:10] <solus_> yes, you can, go into system settings/appearance/fonts
[12:10] <kyle_> wow
[12:11] <kyle_> synaptic cool
[12:11] <kyle_> deatils
[12:11] <swatgoss> oh no not system mess from linux just in IRC :p
[12:11] <solus_> usb controller
[12:11] <swatgoss> texas instrument ...
[12:11] <swatgoss> smthing like that
[12:11] <swatgoss> realtek ?
[12:11] <solus_> how do i search for it in linux
[12:11] <solus_> i think its realtek
[12:11] <solus_> that sounds mroe familiar
[12:12] <kyle_> ok so synaptic is just a pakcage manager?
[12:12] <swatgoss> uhu, try google :p
[12:12] <solus_> there is no TI anything on here
[12:12] <kyle_> does it download packages?
[12:12] <solus_> yes, kyle
[12:12] <kyle_> ok i searched wine and saw it but it's empty
[12:12] <swatgoss> kyle_ do the same work as adept
[12:12] <kyle_> brb
[12:12] <swatgoss> solus_ look on google ?
[12:13] <swatgoss> you will have more chance to find something ionteresting than in linux if i try to make u search it :p
[12:13] <solus_> actualy, looking on hps site, waiting for the page to load
[12:14] <swatgoss> solus_ do your pages loading is longer than Windows ones ?
[12:15] <swatgoss> solus_ i just deactivated ipv6 on my kubuntu and now it work at least 4x faster
[12:15] <whizz-> can i safely delete syslog.x.gz files in /var/log ?
[12:15] <h3sp4wn> whizz-: yes
[12:16] <kyle_> ok
[12:16] <kyle_> help
[12:16] <kyle_> i can't get wine
[12:16] <solus_> swatgoss: yes, tis realtek
[12:16] <kyle_> only options i have are reload / mark all upgrades and search
[12:16] <Vge> mark all updates?
[12:17] <swatgoss> solus_ try to find a driver on your system (already installed), or try to find one ...
[12:17] <solus_> swatgoss: no, it usually doesnt take longer, but we are 4 fast pcs on one dsl 1000 connection until we move in 2 weeks
[12:17] <swatgoss> solus_ but absolutely no idea on how to
[12:17] <swatgoss> solus_ only 3 PCs here on 5.5Mb/s connec ...
[12:17] <swatgoss> 8Mb/s IP
[12:18] <Vge> hmm, are broadcom wireless drivers easy to install allready? ;)
[12:18] <swatgoss> solus_ and before november, moving to 24Mb/s IP :p
[12:18] <solus_> ok, i found the drivers already on here, they are libusb-0.1-4, usbutils, and xserver-xorg-driver-sisusb
[12:18] <farous> Vge: there are two ways to do that ndiswrapper and open source bcm43xx
[12:19] <solus_> when we move in 2 weeks well ahve 2 pcs on a dsl 6000
[12:19] <Vge> farous: i know, then i guess no
[12:19] <swatgoss> solus_ now i'm out of date ... i can't do more to help you ... sry
[12:19] <solus_> its ok
[12:19] <farous> Vge: both have their down side but i think it will be better in the future
[12:19] <farous> Vge: i have ndiswrapper no probs so far
[12:20] <Vge> shoud try that one better when i have the time
[12:21] <kyle_> brb
[12:21] <swatgoss> someone know a jacky channel ?
[12:21] <Vge> got any ndiswrapper guide for idiots, specific to broadcom? im kinda tired with it
[12:22] <swatgoss> lol ... bad joke ... need a #jacky chan !
[12:22] <farous> Vge: am afraid i knew the steps and did it myself. did not need a guide. the main prob is getting a proper driver for your card that will work
[12:24] <farous> !ndiswrapper
[12:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:24] <farous> do not know if this will be of any help
[12:24] <Vge> well i see if they have updated it since i last tryed it
[12:24] <maltaethiron> guys, is there any way besides k3b that i can burn an iso to a disc?
[12:24] <farous> vge they wre mainly 3 steps
[12:25] <farous> Vge: install ndiswrapper-utils, blacklist the bcm43xx module. install a driver that will work with your card
[12:26] <swatgoss> 20sec ping ...
[12:26] <maltaethiron> hawkwind:  you around buddy?
[12:27] <farous> Vge: ah and i forgot load the ndiswrapper module
[12:27] <maltaethiron> !seen hawkwind
[12:27] <ubotu> Hawkwind is on IRC right now!
[12:27] <Sanne> maltaethiron: you could use cdrecord from the command line
[12:28] <Vge> farous: well i have been close, but some part has allways been in the way, main problem is that i dont have wireless device at home, so testing is kinda hard
[12:28] <maltaethiron> and that would write an ISO file to a disc?
[12:28] <farous> Vge: ah i understand. so you should not worry about wireless that much.But if you want to go throught the steps i would be glad here to help :)
[12:29] <soulrider> do any FTP clients come with kubuntu ?
[12:29] <Sanne> maltaethiron: cdrecord is a cd burning program, I think k3b uses it as a backend. To find the correct command, you would need to read the manpage (man cdrecord). I'm afraid I don't know further, because I use k3b ;)
[12:29] <h3sp4wn> soulrider: I would recommend ncftp (from the repos)
[12:29] <Vge> soulrider: try gFTP
[12:29] <soulrider> thanks
[12:29] <maltaethiron> sanne: im having problems with k3b
[12:29] <soulrider> ill get both
[12:30] <maltaethiron> sanne: as in, it doesnt work
[12:30] <maltaethiron> sanne: it doesnt open
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> soulrider: ncftp has a little to learn but after you learn the basics its very good
[12:30] <Sanne> maltaethiron: when you try to start it from the console, what error do you get?
[12:31] <maltaethiron> hold on, lemme get it for you
[12:31] <Sanne> ok
[12:31] <maltaethiron> ill get it if you can type a pastebin url for me
[12:31] <maltaethiron> ok, nvm, it opened
[12:32] <maltaethiron> O_o
[12:32] <maltaethiron> it wouldnt earlier
[12:32] <Sanne> maltaethiron: pastebin is in the topic
[12:32] <Sanne> ojh!
[12:32] <Sanne> cool :)
[12:32] <maltaethiron> well, thanks for youre willingness to help
[12:32] <Sanne> anytime ;)
[12:36] <francolq> Hello, dapper problem here. My internet connection was very slow (when it worked), so read the forums and succesfully disabled IPV6. Now internet is faster (but slower than mi previous Breezy) and works on boot, but sometimes it hangs up and if i disable eth0 y cannot enable it and get an IP again.
[12:36] <nagyv> I am just installing kubuntu for a friend, and I have never partitioned anything using LVM. Is it worthwile to try? If yes, what is the recommended setup?
[12:37] <bipolar> nagyv: it's not worth it unless you're doing a server
[12:38] <francolq> Hello, dapper problem here. My internet connection was very slow (when it worked), so read the forums and succesfully disabled IPV6. Now internet is faster (but slower than mi previous Breezy) and works on boot, but sometimes it hangs up and if i disable eth0 y cannot enable it and get an IP again.
[12:39] <tsdgeos> francolq: no need to say the same twice ;-)
[12:39] <seren> hello
[12:40] <seren> i was wondering how to have wlassistant to have wireless start when i reboot the pc
[12:41] <seren> without any intervention
[12:41] <supaNICK> I return
[12:42] <supaNICK> Is there a way can resize my main panel without making my icons and stuff bigger?
[12:42] <supaNICK> I need the task space
[12:42] <supaNICK> dead room huh?
[12:43] <seren> i guess
[12:43] <supaNICK> that's weird.
[12:43] <supaNICK> 247 people and nobody chats :P
[12:43] <seren> supaNICK, sady im new to ubuntu, although im a gentoo vet, how do i add processes to boot?
[12:43] <supaNICK> what do you mean "to boot"?
[12:44] <seren> like setting boot processes
[12:44] <supaNICK> I'm a linux nub :P
[12:44] <imbrandon> seren: install the package bum ( bot up manager ) sudo apt-get install bum
[12:44] <imbrandon> and use it
[12:44] <ndl> hi, guys!
[12:44] <seren> imbrandon, thx
[12:44] <supaNICK> hiyo..
[12:44] <imbrandon> s/bot/boot/
[12:44] <supaNICK> I do need help though
[12:44] <imbrandon> !helpme
[12:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:45] <seren> imbrandon, how do i get wireless to start on boot
[12:45] <supaNICK> lol
[12:45] <supaNICK> I did ask my quesiton without responses
[12:45] <ndl> i need some help with Konqueror.... trying to tweak its interface. can anyone help?
[12:45] <supaNICK> yeah, use firefox instead :-)
[12:45] <seren> ha
[12:45] <imbrandon> seren: just configure the card and set it to auto in /etc/netword/interfaces
[12:45] <imbrandon> s/network/
[12:45] <supaNICK> anyway, how can I resize my main panel without enlarging the icons?
[12:46] <imbrandon> supaNICK: you cant
[12:46] <supaNICK> why not?
[12:46] <supaNICK> that sucks.
[12:46] <supaNICK> :'(
[12:46] <seren> imbrandon, well i used wlassistant, should i configure it manually and forget about wlassistant?
[12:46] <imbrandon> supaNICK: becouse thats not a option in kicker, try something else
[12:46] <supaNICK> like what?
[12:46] <supaNICK> I'm a newb.
[12:47] <seren> imma ask in #kde about wlassistnt
[12:47] <imbrandon> seren: no idea, i have never used wlassistant, check that file or use the kde setting -> network to configure it
[12:47] <ndl> hhow can i make Konqueror show my Windows share under the Storage Media section? i have already mounted the share using "smbmount"
[12:47] <imbrandon> seren: it doesent have much to do with kde its self ;)
[12:47] <seren> wlassistant = Kde wireless assistant
[12:47] <imbrandon> seren: i know what it is
[12:48] <imbrandon> ndl make sure its mounted in /media/somefolder and it should
[12:49] <mpupu> I'm planning on reinstalling Kubuntu, but I don't have enough space to backup my /home
[12:49] <mpupu> Is it ok if I just rename it, delete everything else and install in the same partition without reformatting?
[12:49] <jujimufu> so, I compiled a new kernel, <IP_ADDRESS>, and I try to boot with it, and I get this error: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[12:50] <seren> imbrandon, wow im a tard, i guess it was too simple
[12:50] <imbrandon> mpupu: that would work
[12:50] <ndl> @ imb: i?l try that now... back in a minute. thnx! :-)
[12:50] <seren> suppose im use to using the terminal to set everything
[12:50] <farous> mpupu: do not know if that will work. A better practice is to have a seperate partition for home. by the way you can alwasy reinstall the packages you have
[12:51] <seren> jujimufu, are you booted to another kernel on the same box?
[12:51] <mpupu> farous: I know, but it's already in the same partition as everything else, and I don't have the space to make a copy now
[12:52] <farous> jujimufu: did you have your rfs type as a built in driver into the kernel?
[12:52] <farous> mpupu: you can always reinstall problematic packages no need for full install. sudo aptitude purge <package name> then sudo aptitude install
[12:52] <jujimufu> seren: I installed a new kernel on the same box.
[12:53] <jujimufu> farous: rfs? what do you mean?
[12:53] <imbrandon> jujimufu: did you one follow the wiki ? if you did you must be running edgy becouse there isnt a mechanisim to do this in dapper safely without much experince, it is recomended you DONT compile the kernel unless you have a very specific need, can i ask why you are compiling it ?
[12:53] <seren> whats the root fs
[12:53] <jujimufu> oh oh
[12:53] <farous> jujimufu: what is you root file system type
[12:53] <mpupu> farous: ok, thanks
[12:53] <ndl> @ imbrandon: is the "/media" directory available in all distros?
[12:53] <imbrandon> ndl: not all no
[12:53] <ndl> shoot :-(
[12:54] <ndl> strange, coz Konq shows "media:/" on the Location Bar anyway....
[12:54] <imbrandon> media:/ is the kio slave
[12:55] <ndl> so how does Konq access the drives on "media:/" if the directory isnt present?
[12:55] <ndl> hmmm
[12:55] <imbrandon> you are getting the filesystem and the kio slave confused ;)
[12:55] <ndl> any solution, then?
[12:56] <ndl> very likely....
[12:56] <imbrandon> solution to what ? what exactly are you trying to do ?
[12:56] <luciano> hey guys
[12:57] <luciano> i a total noob, and i need some help
[12:57] <luciano> i'm a win developer switching from windows, need help with my crt monitor, it flickering
[12:57] <ndl> well, i come from windows, so i used to have shares of other computers from my LAN to show on Windows Explorer as a drive letter. i see Konq shows drives under the "Storage Media" section, but it only shows the local drives and partitions...
[12:57] <luciano> actually, my LCD monitor ;P
[12:57] <duane> hello?
[12:58] <duane> how come it can't find my qt libs/headers?
[12:58] <imbrandon> ndl: correct ....
[12:58] <francolq>  Hello, dapper problem here. My internet connection was very slow (when it worked), so read the forums and succesfully disabled IPV6. Now internet is faster (but slower than mi previous Breezy) and works on boot, but sometimes it hangs up and if i disable eth0 y cannot enable it and get an IP again.
[12:58] <farous> luciano: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:58] <duane> ./configure errors with this: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[12:58] <jujimufu> farous: ext3, I thought it was default. Isn't it?
[12:58] <luciano> Il try it, farous
[12:58] <duane> it's definetly there :
[12:59] <farous> jujimufu: you have to select it to be loaded into the kernel. the default is that they are loaded as sep modules. imbrandon had really good question for you and you should consider it
[12:59] <duane> anyone?
[01:00] <jujimufu> farous: imbrandon: I wanted to activate DRI for my intel i915 (855G)
[01:00] <farous> ndl: you can mount network drivers too is that what you are trying
[01:00] <seren> jujimufu,
[01:00] <seren> grep EXT3 /usr/src/linux/.config
[01:00] <imbrandon> duane: its prety self explanitory , you dont have the QT headers ( and probably many other things ) installed to compile a QT app
[01:01] <duane> :)
[01:01] <duane> I obviously DO :p
[01:01] <seren> jujimufu, if /usr/src/linux is the location of the kernel source
[01:01] <imbrandon> jujimufu: that can be done by compiling the kernel module for it at worst case, afaik though its just an xorg setting to do that
[01:02] <imbrandon> duane: obviously you do what ? i guess its not so obvious ?
[01:02] <farous> francolq: frankly i tried to understand your question but could not. if you have two question can you post them seperately
[01:02] <duane> well, they're there! :p
[01:03] <imbrandon> are they where .configure is looking for them ( not likely as that is wanting a very old qt )
[01:03] <imbrandon> duane: what are you compling ?
[01:03] <duane> calypso...
[01:03] <duane> it's a raytracer
[01:03] <farous> duane: look at the config help for a setting on specifing the location of the header files you need. ./configure --help can be good start or just open readme file
[01:03] <duane> let me find a link somewhere...
[01:04] <ndl> well, i have the Windows share mounted.... it shows under "/mnt", but it doesnt show on Konq under "Storage Media". this whole odissey started when i tried to play my MP3s (stored in my Win machine) and AmaroK dint play them coz they werent local....
[01:04] <duane> yea, I've been trying various --withs...
[01:05] <luciano> farous: i finished the wizard, how do i restart X ?
[01:05] <duane> great. got past the qt header warnings, now it gives me this:
[01:05] <duane> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[01:05] <duane> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[01:05] <duane> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[01:05] <imbrandon> duane: i do not need a link, if you wish to compile this you need the pre requsite sotware installed, if you have qt dev files installed and confugure cont find them it is configures fault and you need to either one pass it or two but the developers to fix the bug
[01:05] <duane> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[01:05] <duane> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[01:05] <duane> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[01:05] <imbrandon> !paste
[01:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:05] <duane> :)
[01:05] <farous> duane: here is what i did for lyx ./configure --with-frontend=qt --with-extra-dir=/usr/share/qt3/lib --with-extra-inc=/usr/include/qt3
[01:06] <farous> luciano: it should start autom
[01:06] <farous> luciano: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[01:07] <imbrandon> moins bimberi
[01:08] <h3sp4wn> duane: Have you tried regenerating ./configure with autoconf ?
[01:08] <bimberi> heya imbrandon
[01:08] <francolq> farous: sorry, very bad english. I would like to know if there is any other idea than disabling IPV6 to solve network problems in Dapper.
[01:08] <ndl> mouting the windows sahre to "/dev" instead of "/media" (that i dont have in my distro) would have the same effect?
[01:09] <duane> yea, I have
[01:09] <farous> francolq: i do not have any problems with ipv6 here frankly
[01:10] <h3sp4wn> ndl: put it in some subdirectory of /mnt not in /dev
[01:10] <duane> is there anything wrong with this?
[01:10] <duane> ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 --with-extra-includes=/usr/include/kde3 --with-extra-libs=/usr/lib/kde3
[01:11] <duane> ahh
[01:11] <ndl> h3sp4wn: i did. i see it there. but i trying to make the windows share appear as a drive in Konq....
[01:12] <h3sp4wn> ndl: At the moment it is just a folder correct ?
[01:12] <ndl> yep
[01:12] <francolq> farous:  there are several messages about these problem at the forums... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237052
[01:12] <ndl> a folder under /mnt
[01:12] <luciano> hey farous
[01:13] <luciano> i restarted it, then it said "cannot connect to server on 0:0' then i put the old xorg back
[01:13] <luciano> thing is
[01:13] <farous> francolq: i read the forum some people say ipv6 have no effect other say no it has. I tried my net with and without ipv6 and got the same speed on test my network speed site :)
[01:13] <ndl> h3sp4wn: i want the sahre to appear as a drive, for easier browsing in Konqueror
[01:13] <luciano> my monitor is 17 inch widescreen, i have to use 1280x768
[01:14] <luciano> at 1024x768 the monitor doesn't flicker, but everything is stretched
[01:14] <farous> luciano: normally you specify that when you run dpkg-reconfigure
[01:14] <luciano> at 1280x768 the resolution is fine, but the monitor flickers
[01:14] <farous> luciano: flicker as in freq setting ?
[01:14] <luciano> yeah
[01:14] <luciano> the other day i ran some command to vieww the monitor setup
[01:15] <luciano> and the tutorial said that hsinc and vsinc should be equal,
[01:15] <farous> luciano: with my ati card i specify 1040X1050@60 for ex
[01:15] <luciano> and it wasn't my case, but i couldn't make them to be equal
[01:15] <farous> luciano: normally there is another commn i can not remember now
[01:15] <luciano> hummmm...
[01:16] <farous> luciano: give me a min
[01:16] <luciano> it's a shame, i've been triying to get this right for 5 days now, and I take screen shots, they look GREAT when i open them in windows ;P
[01:16] <luciano> ok, i'll wait
[01:16] <farous> crtHsync and Vrefresh do not need to be equal
[01:17] <farous> here are a setting i used
[01:17] <luciano> that means that linux is understanding the resolution nice and smooth, the antialias is great (far better than cleartype) but the monitor isn't caching up...
[01:17] <farous>        Option          "CRT2Hsync" "50-75"
[01:17] <farous> #        Option          "CRT2VRefresh" "30-82"
[01:17] <luciano> let me check mine now
[01:18] <luciano> Section "Monitor"
[01:18] <luciano>         Identifier      "Generic Monitor"
[01:18] <luciano>         Option          "DPMS"
[01:18] <luciano>         HorizSync       28-51
[01:18] <luciano>         VertRefresh     43-60
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> luciano: use the xfree86 modeline generator
[01:19] <luciano> in the manual, it says that Hsinc should be 47.70 and vsinc 60, so it should be setting up properly with that config
[01:19] <luciano> how do i do that h3sp4wn ?
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> What resolution do you want ?
[01:20] <luciano> 1280x768
[01:20] <h3sp4wn> This is a widescreen laptop screen right ?
[01:20] <luciano> thing is i am using the resolution, fine.... but the monitor flickers
[01:20] <luciano> not laptop, but LCD widescreen, yeah
[01:20] <luciano> 17 inch
[01:22] <farous> again luciano my card support 1024x768@87 with the flgrx driver. do  not know if it will work with the open source or not
[01:22] <h3sp4wn> luciano: Modeline "1280x768@60" 79.75 1280 1312 1608 1640 768 783 791 807
[01:22] <luciano> i'll try that, 1 sec
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> luciano: put that in section monitor
[01:23] <luciano> ahn ok
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> luciano: then change all instances of "1280x768" to "1280x768@60" (most lcd's work best at 60hz)
[01:25] <cozomo> About halfway through any compilation on my dapper drake, my computer halts for some reason, anyone know anything about this?
[01:26] <luciano> made the changes... restart x again then ?
[01:27] <luciano> restarting....
[01:28] <h3sp4wn> luciano: yep
[01:29] <farous> h3sp4wn: do you need to specify the modline with the new xorg
[01:30] <JRH3K5> Anyone here know what port I have to open on the firewall to allow ping packets through?
[01:30] <h3sp4wn> farous: To get my monitor to run at 60hz (which is the recommended its an lcd panel) with the binary nvidia drivers
[01:31] <h3sp4wn> farous: That is the only way (otherwise it goes at 75hz which the monitor manual says is not optimum) maybe there is a better way
[01:31] <farous> h3sp4wn: i know that 60Hz is recommended for lcd. I was asking do you need to put the modeline. or just putting 1024x768@60 is sufficinet
[01:31] <farous> h3sp4wn: just wondering thats all for this is hte way i used in my xorg.conf file
[01:32] <Blissex> farous: just limit the max 'VertRefresh' to 60. The modeline will be chosen automagically.
[01:32] <farous> did not put the modeline
[01:32] <h3sp4wn> farous: I am not sure - maybe the modeline is not necessary
[01:32] <Blissex> farous: actually limit it to 61 to be sure.
[01:32] <farous> Blissex: ok thanx and thanx h3sp4wn
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> farous: Its only with the binary nvidia driver that I need the modeline (I can just select 60 with any of the free drivers)
[01:33] <luciano> h3sp4wn, I'm still flickering here.... :S
[01:34] <farous> luciano: i think you are not used to the 60Hz for big screens at 60Hz it have to flicker
[01:34] <farous> luciano: did you try it on window
[01:34] <farous> h3sp4wn: cool with fglrx bin drive i did not need to specify the modeline. no harm in putting it though :)
[01:34] <luciano> it works ok in windows, no flickering... 1280x768@60
[01:37] <luciano> i took a picture from the screen, does any one wants to see it ?
[01:38] <farous> luciano: put it on the pastebin
[01:38] <luciano> how ?
[01:38] <farous> !pastebin
[01:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:41] <farous> luciano: hope you solve your prob take care
[01:43] <luciano> im posting
[01:46] <bubu1uk> luciano: dont forget link to pastebin here too. :p
[01:47] <ndl> i guess im gonna give up on the "mounting as drive" prob....might not be possible
[01:48] <luciano> ok,
[01:48] <ndl> another question: how to make screenshots of the boot process? is it possible or i will need to use a camera?
[01:49] <Blissex> ndl: you can with a virtual machine, else camera...
[01:49] <ndl> not familiar with VM...
[01:49] <ndl> something i will install on my distro?
[01:51] <luciano> ok, so this is my desktop flickering at 1280x768: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i20930
[01:51] <waspius> [Desktop Entry]
[01:51] <waspius> Type=Directory
[01:51] <waspius> Icon=trashcan_full
[01:51] <waspius> EmptyIcon=trashcan_empty
[01:51] <waspius> Name=Trash
[01:52] <waspius> sorry mistake
[01:52] <luciano> and this is at 1024x768. it's not flickering, but it's stretched since the monitor is widescreen http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i20931
[01:53] <waspius> in order to create a trash bin on my desktop do i just create a new link to location trash:/?
[01:53] <luciano> actually, sorry, they're the same, it's the flickering version
[01:53] <luciano> i uploaded the same file, sorry
[01:53] <luciano> but it's the one that matters anyway
[01:54] <luciano> can someone try to help me ?
[01:54] <luciano> bubuluk, any toughts ?
[01:55] <bubu1uk> luciano: nope, sorry
[01:55] <luciano> thanks anyway...
[01:59] <dec_> I am new to linux and i just downloaded flash for linux and I do not know how to install the application any ideas
[02:00] <[Relic] > is there a way to set up a new HD and just copy over the current install instead of having to set everything up again?  or a way to log the files that were loaded to make one nice big install/upgrade of stuff?
[02:01] <otaku-san> Yo n00b question...how do I change the color of the font on the top of windows??? It's white and whoa dang is it hard to see!
[02:01] <[Relic] > thought that flash had the instructions right on the page that you got it from
[02:05] <inaki> hola
[02:05] <inaki> spanish?
[02:05] <[Relic] > where?
[02:06] <inaki> spanish channel please?
[02:06] <[Relic] > don't thik anyone is awake right now  :)
[02:06] <h3sp4wn> !es
[02:06] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:07] <[Relic] > bleh, I will just do a full install  and toss this old drive
[02:09] <kyle_> hello
[02:09] <kyle_> i can't umount
[02:09] <kyle_> sudo umount -f /dev/sbd# won't work
[02:09] <kyle_> says device is busy
[02:09] <magdi> I have just installed kubuntu, and would like to compile kopete 0.12, but I always get an error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:09] <kyle_> what do i do
[02:10] <dungkal> kyle_, what device is it?
[02:10] <rexbron> magdi: do you have build-essentials installed?
[02:10] <kyle_> it's an external hdd
[02:10] <magdi> rexbron: not yet, I think I was looking just for this reply :)
[02:11] <leagris> hi
[02:11] <rexbron> hey
[02:11] <dungkal> kyle_, did you check your Konsole and Konqueror, which may have pointed to your hdd device?
[02:11] <kyle_> yea i did
[02:11] <h3sp4wn> magdi: sudo apt-get build-dep kopete (but I think there are deb's around for kopete 0.12 somewhere)
[02:11] <kyle_> closed out of media players too
[02:11] <magdi> h3sp4wn: I would like to have it with jingle included, and as I know the precompiled version doesn't includes it
[02:12] <kyle_> oh woops
[02:13] <dungkal> kyle_, what now?
[02:13] <kyle_> done
[02:13] <kyle_> it wsa a media program minimized hard for me to see forgot about it
[02:13] <kyle_> umounted
[02:13] <kyle_> kubuntu is a bootiful OS
[02:13] <kyle_> much like mac os x
[02:13] <kyle_> jk haha
[02:13] <dungkal> kyle_, indeed.
[02:14] <kyle_> i macosx86 --> kubuntu migrated today
[02:14] <kyle_> nice
[02:14] <dungkal> that's nice.
[02:14] <dungkal> unlicensed windows xp --> kubuntu (this we did to all our 14 machines)
[02:15] <trpr11> dungkal: good move. the way ms operates that was a lawsuit waiting to happen
[02:16] <kyle_> oh wait i was actually windows2003 enterprise edition for 1 night then switched to kubuntu
[02:16] <dungkal> trpr11, yes, what with their Windows Genuine Advantage FUD tactic.
[02:16] <kyle_> windows took me 5 hours to config and set up drivers and crap
[02:16] <waspius> in order to create a trash bin on my desktop do i just create a new link to location trash:/?
[02:17] <kyle_> i was in the #freebsd and man were those ppl pissed off
[02:17] <dungkal> kyle_, why?
[02:17] <kyle_> piss about nothing but for some apparent reason it's like they don't want to be spoken to or sumthin
[02:17] <kyle_> i asked them what's the difference between linux and freebsd and got flamed
[02:18] <excitatory> waspius: there's a very nice kicker trash applet
[02:18] <dungkal> kyle_, you got served. :-)
[02:18] <kyle_> hahahha
[02:18] <magdi> What to do with this error message? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:18] <waspius> excitatory: which does what?\
[02:19] <kyle_> yea i was looking at solaris 10 cuz i heard they improved
[02:19] <kyle_> but kernel 2.6 was pretty good and linux updates are easy to apply
[02:19] <kyle_> solaris was never easy to update to begin with for some reason
[02:20] <excitatory> waspius: gives you control over trash:/  .. you can open up the trash, empty, and even paste things into the trash.
[02:20] <excitatory> quite handy
[02:20] <excitatory> and i much prefer it to a desktop icon
[02:21] <waspius> excitatory: yeah but does that not use allot of memory?
[02:21] <excitatory> waspius: are you kidding?  it's a little link in your kicker.. wouldn't use any more than a desktop icon.
[02:22] <waspius> excitatory: ok so were do i find it?
[02:24] <excitatory> waspius: right click on your kicker (unlock it if it's locked)  >  Add Applet to panel..   >  then choose Trash.  I also recommend the storage devices one.. for all cds, dvds, and removeable storage devices that loaded, it will provide a quick access to them via an icon.. try it :D
[02:24] <waspius> excitatory: ok i will thanx
[02:24] <magdi> What to do with this error message? (Its a plain new install.) checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:25] <supernix> ok I have sort of a problem
[02:25] <leagris> someone know how to configure/use compiz-kde ?
[02:25] <magdi> supernix: I you sure about it?
[02:25] <magdi> !compiz
[02:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:25] <supernix> I boot up as usual but now for some reason grub wont allow me to move the selection up and down with my keyboard to select a different OS
[02:25] <trpr11> magdi: you are compiling something? did you get the build-essential package?
[02:26] <leagris> Ubugtu, this documentation is out of date and irrelevant for compiz-kde
[02:26] <magdi> trpr11: yes. I would like to compile kopete 0.12 with jingle, and I ahve already installed build-essentials
[02:27] <magdi> leagris: did you tried the #ubuntu-xgl channel ?
[02:27] <leagris> thx magdi didn't know there was one
[02:28] <trpr11> magdi: how about the x-dev package?
[02:28] <trpr11> magdi: i am uncertain which package you need, but you need the header files, which would be in some sort of dev package
[02:29] <magdi> trpr11: thx, I will try the x-dev (actually x11proto-core-dev according to adept :) )
[02:35] <magdi> I just noticed that my laptops screen is not used in its full size. How could I change it? Is this a resolution problem or something else?
[02:37] <dungkal> magdi, did you try vesa as the default video driver? better yet, what does the command lspci say about your VGA controller?
[02:38] <magdi> dungkal: I think you are interested in this line: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  661/741/760/761 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[02:43] <dungkal> please check what driver is used: less /etc/X11/xorg.conf. then look for the Section "Device" and find out the driver.
[02:43] <nnn0> what's the best iptables gui ? :)
[02:44] <nnn0> i was thinking about firestarter or kmyfirewall
[02:45] <kyle_> is anyone running WINE on kubuntu?
[02:46] <Blissex> nnn0: http://www.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxFwConfig.html for a list
[02:46] <dungkal> kyle_, I do.
[02:46] <nnn0> yeah i've been looking on the net, but it's difficult to decide :)
[02:46] <Blissex> nnn0: usually the most powerful is 'FwBuilder.org'
[02:46] <kyle_> dungkal is there a kubuntu package for it?
[02:46] <nnn0> k
[02:46] <nnn0> thx
[02:47] <dungkal> yes,
[02:47] <kyle_> or do i have to get it from them and install it myself?
[02:47] <kyle_> can you tell me where i can find it?
[02:47] <kyle_> i tried synamtic and adept
[02:47] <kyle_> but i can't find anything
[02:47] <adidas> salut les linuxiens :D
[02:48] <dungkal> kyle_, it's with your repository list. i'll find out the category of wine in mine.
[02:48] <jontec> I need to know about ISO images, is there a program that can read a cd and create an iso image on linux?
[02:48] <jontec> before I go looking on adept?
[02:49] <magdi> dungkal: the driver is vesa
[02:49] <actinic> jontec, i believe the iso thing is native to linux
[02:49] <kyle_> repository list? where is the repository list?
[02:50] <magdi> kyle_: under /etc/apt/sources.list, but you can edit it with adept too
[02:50] <dungkal> kyle_, change your repository file. sudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list. then append 'universe' and 'multiverse' to each line you see that starts with 'deb' and 'deb-src'.
[02:50] <magdi> kyle_: a usable list can be found at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[02:51] <dungkal> then on Konsole, sudo apt-get update.
[02:51] <dungkal> then try to install wine: apt-get install wine.
[02:55] <magdi> dungkal: any ideas?
[02:56] <dungkal> magdi: try to change it to sis. sudo kedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf. then change the line that says "driver vesa". change that to "driver sis".
[02:58] <dungkal> magdi: i'm not sure though about my advice. i'm also using a laptop with the same SIS VGA controller.
[02:58] <magdi> dungkal: and you are using the vesa or the sis driver?
[02:58] <dungkal> sis driver.
[03:02] <jontec> thanks actinic, Does anyone know if the Dapper Kubuntu cds have a "server" version on them for low end pcs? My hands are tied, I'm on dial-up (can't download iso s), I can't get any more cds and Kubuntu dapper/Ubuntu dapper/breezy are all I have...
[03:03] <francolq> Hello. I installed Dapper but the network is very slow. Disabling IPV6 (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1389280&postcount=9) didn't work. Any idea?
[03:05] <[Relic] > will this work  ->  basic install ->  copy old drive to new drive with * and -r -a -> reboot and have everything working as it was?
[03:05] <max> cool
[03:05] <max> has anyone here used Bittorrent on Kubuntu?
[03:05] <kyle_> dugkal if i do apt-get for wine then adept will have no control of it won't it?
[03:06] <francolq> max: i use the bittornado client
[03:06] <adidas> hi guys
[03:06] <adidas> u okay all ?
[03:06] <adidas> what's up ? :D
[03:06] <[Relic] > think ktorrent is a bittorrent interface
[03:06] <magdi> I would like to use the last.fm player, but it sais that it need qt4 to compile. Is it safe to install it?
[03:06] <adidas> what's the different betwen ubuntu's software and kubuntu's please ?
[03:07] <adidas> -t +ce
[03:07] <jontec> kubuntu runs KDE
[03:07] <sans> hi all
[03:07] <jontec> ubuntu runs Gnome
[03:07] <sans> people, what are your favourite kde applications?
[03:07] <dungkal> kyle_, either konsole or adept will work.
[03:07] <magdi> sans: konversation :)
[03:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> sans: katapult
[03:07] <sans> haha, I love those two
[03:07] <sans> i just ran konversation through katapult :-D
[03:08] <jontec> umm.... Kate
[03:08] <sans> i'm in big, big love with kde at the moment, even though I used to hate it
[03:08] <sans> the apps just got me
[03:08] <jontec> amaroK, and Konversation has helped me a lot ^_^, Adept is really good too
[03:08] <adidas> thanks jontec, bye !
[03:08] <adidas> cya all
[03:09] <magdi> I would like to use the last.fm player, but it sais that it need qt4 to compile. Is it safe to install it?
[03:09] <kyle_> wait
[03:10] <kyle_> dungkal if i uncomment the 2 lines with universe and multiverse......do i have to comment out the first 2 lines without universe and multiverse?
[03:10] <sans> i'm in so much love with kile, kate, kjots, kalarm, karm, TaskJugglerUI, amarok, akregator, the who kontact shebang, kdissert, digikam
[03:10] <sans> the whole* kontact
[03:11] <miyako> is there a package to get the source for the installer, or would I need to get that from CVS?  I had some trouble during installing kubuntu and I would like to try to see if I can fix the bug and submit a patch
[03:11] <sans> do you guys too have software that just doesn't work on your machine? I'm having problems with 1) knights 2) kat 3) kerry
[03:12] <charlie5> are dvd players easy/hard/impossible to install for the average Joe (or in this case charlie ;) ... ?
[03:12] <magdi> charlie5: use easyubuntu
[03:13] <miyako> charlie5, the wiki has a good guide on getting dvd playback working
[03:13] <dungkal> kyle_, let me try if I can send my sources.list file to you. wait.
[03:13] <charlie5> um, i mean hardware install, btw
[03:13] <charlie5> magdi: thanks, i've not heard of easyubuntu ... i'll check it out
[03:14] <magdi> charlie5: it's software install
[03:14] <miyako> charlie5, hmm, I never considered it something that is difficult to do, basically just plugging in two things (power and the IDE cable) but I guess if you've never installed anything in your machine before it might be a little intimidating
[03:14] <jontec> giggity giggity. I think I have an iso image.
[03:14] <brk3> hi, does usb speakers in linux not require a soundcard?
[03:14] <kyle_> hmm
[03:15] <kyle_> dungkal is it sending?
[03:15] <charlie5> miyako: ah, thanks ... i've installed ram & video cards, but never a cd or dvd ... it's not too hard then ? ... great, i'll have a crack at it
[03:16] <dungkal> it says 100% in my status window but it still says sending. how about in your end?
[03:16] <kyle_> dungkal nothing yet
[03:16] <kyle_> where do i check the file?
[03:16] <kyle_> lemme look
[03:17] <kyle_> dungkal nothing
[03:17] <dungkal> if there's a problem, i may post here each line of my sources.list or send it to you through email. what'd you think?
[03:17] <kyle_> email
[03:17] <max> i am pretty new at this... how would i go about getting Bit Tornado going if i have already installed the package
[03:17] <paul_> can someone here help out a total newbie to linux?
[03:18] <paul_> I'm running ubuntu
[03:18] <paul_> well, through vmware
[03:18] <paul_> I dunno how to install vmware tools though
[03:18] <paul_> anyone able to help?
[03:18] <brk3> paul_: whats the prob
[03:19] <paul_> hi... well, I've managed to unzip the files to my desktop
[03:19] <paul_> I'm supposed to run vmware-install.pl, but I think I have to do it from the terminal
[03:19] <paul_> and I dont know how to do that in linux
[03:19] <brk3> ok
[03:19] <brk3> go to your start menu
[03:19] <brk3> under system, open 'konsole'
[03:20] <brk3> got that open?
[03:20] <paul_> ok yeah
[03:20] <fakedsymp> Anyone here available to help me out?
[03:20] <brk3> now type: cd Desktop
[03:21] <paul_> says no such file or directory
[03:21] <brk3> type: cd ~
[03:21] <adidas> hey guys it's me again :D
[03:21] <brk3> then try cd Desktop
[03:21] <paul_> ok did that
[03:21] <paul_> ok hang on
[03:21] <paul_> still says the same thing
[03:21] <brk3> em..
[03:22] <brk3> can you extract the files to your home directory then?
[03:22] <brk3> instead of your desktop
[03:22] <dungkal> kyle_, please check out for a tab named dungkal.
[03:22] <paul_> the command line says paul@paul-desktop:~$
[03:22] <paul_> dunno if that means anything to you
[03:22] <brk3> ya it does
[03:22] <fakedsymp> can anyone help me out? I'm having trouble getting something to load in firefox
[03:22] <brk3> just dunno why you cant change to your desktop folder
[03:22] <fakedsymp> running kubuntu
[03:22] <brk3> type: ls
[03:22] <paul_> ok
[03:22] <brk3> and paste the output
[03:23] <farous> !ask
[03:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:23] <dungkal> fakedsymp, and that something is?
[03:23] <paul_> says this: Desktop  Examples  logs
[03:23] <brk3> good
[03:23] <brk3> type exactly, cd Desktop
[03:23] <brk3> this is case sensitive
[03:23] <dads> how can i tel if my smp is runnin for a dual core cpu
[03:23] <paul_> oooh I'm in... I didnt realise it was case sensitive
[03:23] <brk3> dads: i want to know this too :)
[03:23] <adidas> i'm actually trying to find some software for my computer and i have a small list of windows' software that i want to have on linux or similary softs
[03:23] <paul_> oops lol
[03:24] <paul_> ok I'm there so far
[03:24] <fakedsymp> Okay. I'm simply tryin' to play a game at addictinggames (www.addictinggames.com/classroom3.html), but the box where the game should be is just a solid blue color
[03:24] <brk3> lol
[03:24] <adidas> someone is okey to help me ? :D
[03:24] <brk3> now type: chmod +x vmware-install.pl
[03:24] <farous> fakedsymp: might be you need the java plugin
[03:24] <fakedsymp> I have a flashplayer installed, and I think the plugin works 'cause youtube videos work and stuff, which run on flash...but I dunno why the hell I can't get the game to work
[03:24] <paul_> ok hang on
[03:24] <fakedsymp> it's java?
[03:24] <adidas> or must i go on google for 2 news hours ? :(
[03:24] <brk3> paul_: or no actually, just type: perl vmware-install.pl
[03:24] <brk3> quicker :)
[03:24] <fakedsymp> I got java from automatix
[03:25] <farous> fakedsymp: firefox will tell you which plugin is missing
[03:25] <paul_> oh ok
[03:25] <farous> !automatix
[03:25] <paul_> one se
[03:25] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:25] <fakedsymp> it told me to download a flashplayer and install it
[03:25] <brk3> does anyone here have usb speakers?
[03:25] <paul_> one sec
[03:25] <fakedsymp> But I have a flashplayer
[03:25] <fakedsymp> and youtube videos DO work, and they're flash based, aren't they?
[03:25] <farous> fakedsymp: linux only have flash 7
[03:25] <jontec> does it require flash 8?
[03:25] <farous> it might need a newer one
[03:25] <fakedsymp> oh. maybe. I dunno. >_>
[03:25] <paul_> hm... said 'please re-run as super user'
[03:25] <brk3> fakedsymp: im not sure if the youtube videos are flash
[03:26] <fakedsymp> Regardless, I"ll go download the latest version of flash
[03:26] <farous> brk3: they are flash am watching them now
[03:26] <paul_> doing the chmod thing didnt seem to do anything
[03:26] <brk3> paul_: ok, type: sudo perl vmware-install.pl
[03:26] <paul_> ok
[03:26] <dungkal> fakedsymp: i tried the site. it's a flash stuff. please try to right click on it and click on settings.
[03:26] <brk3> and then your root password when it asks
[03:26] <brk3> farous: ok, sorry
[03:26] <paul_> ah cool it's doing something now
[03:26] <adidas> ok so i see that everyone wanna help me so here the softs i want : winrar, winamp, ventrilomix and mIRC :D
[03:26] <farous> brk3: no need to be sorry just telling info :)
[03:27] <paul_> asking me what directory I want to install to
[03:27] <jontec> Konqueror: mIRC
[03:27] <jontec> Linux has several programs like winamp.
[03:27] <jontec> they play .ogg files natively i believe
[03:27] <farous> adidas ok you need rar and unrar xmms and perhaps xchat ventrilo i do not know what it is
[03:27] <fakedsymp> I checked the settings, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with making the game work.
[03:27] <paul_> I think it's doign it now brk3
[03:27] <brk3> farous: :)
[03:27] <paul_> thanks for that :)
[03:27] <brk3> paul_: sweet :)
[03:27] <jontec> and ArK may do .rar archieves... I'm not sure
[03:28] <dads> i thought you could extract rars but not compress them
[03:28] <adidas> xmms is a little stange :S
[03:28] <jontec> archives*
[03:28] <farous> adidas: get one of its winamp skins
[03:28] <jontec> adidas: have you tried amarok?
[03:28] <fakedsymp> okay, I downloaded the flashplayer. but I'm relatively new to linux, and I"ve never installed anything I downloaded from a website before
[03:28] <dungkal> it seems the game relies on webcam and/or microphone?
[03:28] <brk3> adidas: xmms sucks! use amarok, or listen which you can get from automatix
[03:28] <jontec> listen to farous... :D
[03:28] <fakedsymp> and the file extension is like....tar.gz or something
[03:28] <farous> !flash
[03:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:28] <kyle_> dungkal got it
[03:28] <jontec> not about what you said brk3
[03:29] <brk3> huh?
[03:29] <fakedsymp> uh. it doesn't rely on webcam or microphone >_>
[03:29] <sans> does anyone here use rox-filer
[03:29] <jontec> right after you said... adidas: xmms sucks! use amarok, or listen which you can get from automatix...
[03:29] <fakedsymp> I can play it on my desktop running windows.
[03:29] <jontec> I said listen to farous.. they weren't related
[03:29] <brk3> ok
[03:29] <adidas> ok ok ty for ur help i gonna search for these softs and come back if i have others problems :D thanks
[03:30] <jontec> Isn't amaroK installed with all dapper releases?
[03:30] <farous> adidas: no need to search install through adept
[03:30] <farous> they are all in the repos. perhaps the skins you will search for one you like
[03:30] <jontec> oh, I guess he might not be using dapper.. nvm.
[03:31] <adidas> ok i'll try
[03:31] <farous> :)
[03:31] <adidas> ty ;)
[03:32] <Gh0st75> evening folks
[03:32] <maltaethiron> yo
[03:32] <kyle_> dungkal wheres wine?
[03:32] <kyle_> i just installed it through adept
[03:32] <Finetuch> i got a celeron d cpu and i was wonderin how to check if the dual core is being ulitized
[03:32] <Gh0st75> tonight's challenge for our intrepid linux neophyte.....to install EPSXE and get it working :)
[03:32] <Finetuch> can anyone help
[03:33] <dungkal> fakedsymp: i'm sorry i can't help. perhaps the stuff is version 8 and linux's latest supported version is 7 yet.
[03:33] <fakedsymp> how do I install a .tar.gz?
[03:33] <maltaethiron> a .tar.gz is a compressed file
[03:33] <jontec> tar.gz is an archive file i believe
[03:33] <fakedsymp> right
[03:34] <dungkal> kyle_, please try to issue wine on Konsole.
[03:34] <fakedsymp> but I dunno how to uncompress the installer in it, and run it
[03:34] <farous> fakedsymp: you need sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> fakedsymp: It may be source code, but to decompress it either use ark or run 'tar zxvf <tar.gz file>'
[03:34] <brk3> Gh0st75: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:35] <kyle_> dungkal i just did but no windows program to test it with haha
[03:35] <farous> fakedsymp: then run sudo update-flashplugin after the installation
[03:35] <jontec> fakedsymp: right click the file and choose extract
[03:35] <dungkal> kyle_, wine is run together with an .exe file you're trying to open.
[03:35] <kyle_> so is there going to be an icon once i rebooot?
[03:35] <dungkal> no, i don't think so.
[03:35] <kyle_> dungkal oh nice so i can just double click on an exe and it will run? nice
[03:35] <brk3> Gh0st75: do that?
[03:35] <rah> hi...how change resolution boosplash image to 1280x1024 ?
[03:36] <dungkal> i think so, kyle_. i tried with some other distros before.
[03:36] <kyle_> rah if u find out tell me
[03:36] <kyle_> oh ok
[03:36] <kyle_> dungkal how do i check what resolution i'm running?
[03:36] <Gh0st75> brk3: was just following the steps i found on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95835 actually
[03:36] <fakedsymp> what's the terminal command to delete a file?
[03:36] <arepie> is it normal update using automatix take till 2 days ?
[03:37] <kyle_> rm -f
[03:37] <brk3> Gh0st75: ok, hope it works
[03:37] <farous> fakedsymp: rm filename
[03:37] <fakedsymp> okay, thanks
[03:37] <rah> arepie if you net speed ist 1kB:P
[03:37] <arepie> and it is not finish yet..
[03:37] <Gh0st75> i'll be askin for help if i run into any trouble with it, thanks
[03:37] <arepie> omg.. im using broadband 1mb
[03:37] <brk3> arepie: not unless your on dialup
[03:37] <brk3> althogh that would prob take 2 years on dialup
[03:37] <kyle_> haha
[03:37] <brk3> np
[03:38] <jontec> how big is the file, I'll tell you, I have dial-up
[03:38] <jontec> :D
[03:38] <dungkal> K-Menu->System-Settings. then click on the Display icon.
[03:38] <jontec> nvm, I didn't read.
[03:38] <osiris> how do i solve the "scrolling desktop" issue.  its drawing the screen bigger than my monitor, and it scrolls around when i move the mouse
[03:38] <fakedsymp> okay, I have the installer extracted...but I dunno how to run it to install it
[03:40] <farous> fakedsymp: ./filename you need to run usually .bin
[03:40] <farous> for flashplugin
[03:40] <Gh0st75> doh, so much for that....once again, only instructions available online were for Ubuntu, not Kubuntu...i got as far as having everything downloaded and installed, but when trying to create a shell script to launch it, it doesn't recognize the command sudo gedit /usr/local/bin/epsxe
[03:40] <jontec> I'm cool. I'm using debian documentation to install ubuntu breezy.
[03:41] <fakedsymp> bash: ./install_flash_player_7_linux: is a directory
[03:41] <fakedsymp> that's what it returned when I put in "./install_flash_player_7_linux"
[03:41] <brk3> osiris: you need to increase your screen resolution
[03:41] <farous> fakedsymp: you need the file under the dir
[03:41] <magdi> Gh0st75: gedit is for gnome, try kate instead
[03:41] <fakedsymp> eh?
[03:41] <Gh0st75> so just replace any instance of gedit with kate?
[03:41] <Gh0st75> will try that
[03:42] <magdi> fakedsymp: it is pretty easy to install flashplayer using easyubuntu
[03:42] <dungkal> kyle_, there are built-in .exe files in your wine package that you can test, like notepad.exe. open konqueror. go to ~/.wine/drive_c/windows.
[03:42] <adidas> jontec: i just have installed amarok and when i try to play a sound, it says me the Playlist is finished
[03:42] <fakedsymp> Yeah but I'm a total linux newb
[03:42] <brk3> adidas: you need to install libxine-extracodecs
[03:42] <brk3> adidas: use automatix
[03:42] <farous> !automatix
[03:42] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:43] <farous> the use at your own risk mean something
[03:43] <kendrick> hello
[03:43] <Gh0st75> followed the rest of the install guide, but when i type epsxe in the terminal, i get this error: ./epsxe: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:43] <kendrick> hi
[03:43] <brk3> farous: automatix is the best thing thats happened to ubuntu, pity the bot has to give it such a lame description
[03:43] <brk3> Gh0st75: open up adept and install libncurses
[03:44] <adidas> what is automatix ?
[03:44] <farous> brk3: the boot have tht for a reason :)
[03:44] <kendrick> hello di i join something or wat
[03:44] <osiris> brk3, i have this set for 1024x768, i dont think this monitor supports much higher
[03:44] <farous> !ask
[03:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:44] <farous> ke: hi
[03:44] <osiris> its a 17in gateway vivitron
[03:44] <kendrick> hi
[03:44] <Gh0st75> libncurses5 i already installed
[03:45] <brk3> osiris: right click on ur desktop and go to configure
[03:45] <dungkal> hi kendrick.
[03:45] <Gh0st75> libncursesw5 is already installed as well
[03:45] <kyle_> who's running 1280x1024 ?
[03:45] <osiris> brk3, are you looking for me to go to systemsettings ?
[03:45] <brk3> osiris: then go to the display section and make sure the screen size is at the highest
[03:45] <kendrick> hi wat r u talking about
[03:45] <brk3> osiris: no just right click on your desktop and go to 'configure' on the menu that pops up
[03:46] <adidas> and with xmms i have one problem too : the window doesn't appear when i start a music, but the music is playing :(
[03:46] <brk3> kendrick: if you have a question, just ask rather than asking to ask
[03:46] <adidas> oops i spoke too fast, it's ok now
[03:46] <tdmg> Guys, I'm in deep doo doo :(   After installing my nVidia drivers last night and setting up my dual monitors I now can't boot, except in recovery mode.  Also, my newest kernel is still broken, I have other drivers I need set up, and a host of other issues.  Could someone please help me!?
[03:46] <toliman> adidas: it's a preconfig'd set of scripts to get software pre-installed
[03:46] <adidas> ok
[03:46] <sans> how do i get rid of konqi?
[03:46] <kyle_> adidas haha
[03:46] <kendrick> is this just talking about computers
[03:46] <brk3> osiris: any luck?
[03:46] <toliman> tdmg: welcome to xorg.conf ... the text file of dooooom
[03:46] <sans> i don't want him showing up on the log-out dialog
[03:47] <farous> sans yo do not
[03:47] <adidas> Kyle_: X(
[03:47] <sans> i don't like lizards
[03:47] <farous> sans: it is too much integrated to kde that if you do you will break kde
[03:47] <tdmg> toliman, could I get a concrete answer :P
[03:47] <sans> oh
[03:47] <osiris> brk3, yeah.  when i take it off from the highest setting
[03:47] <tdmg> I'm really screwed here
[03:47] <kyle_> how do i increase my laptop's trackpad sensitivity?
[03:47] <jontec> kendrick: yes, Please take off-topic conversations to #kubuntu-offtopic".... I quoted that from the welcome message
[03:47] <sans> what if someone has a reptile phobia
[03:47] <toliman> tdmg: check dmesg |grep nv for errors, see if the kernel module compiled ok
[03:47] <tdmg> my issues just get worse
[03:47] <osiris> brk3, but i bet 50 says it dont rememgber the settings
[03:47] <kendrick> is this just talking about computer problems
[03:47] <kyle_> the skin on my index finger is wearing thin
[03:47] <jontec> kendrick: yes
[03:48] <brk3> osiris: bet it will :)
[03:48] <farous> kendrick: type /topic and you will know this is a support channel not a general chat one
[03:48] <tdmg> toliman, I'm a beginner, you have to go step by step.  I have no clue how to get there and what I would look for when I got there
[03:48] <kendrick> thanx
[03:48] <toliman> use ctrl-alt-f1 to get into the first vty, then login.
[03:48] <brk3> kyle_: i think this might be in the mouse sectino of kde setup
[03:48] <adidas> ok i come back with XCHAT B)
[03:48] <farous> :)
[03:48] <tdmg> toliman, I'd also like to get my drivers fixed first.  I can always just use the old kernel
[03:49] <toliman> once youre there, either run 'dmesg' to see what the last few lines are, or run dmesg |less and scroll through the list of entries until you see one called nvidia
[03:49] <brk3> tdmg: so your not totally screwed :)
[03:49] <tdmg> brk3, no
[03:49] <tdmg> but I want this to work
[03:49] <tdmg> I have school and a job, I don't have 20 hours to fix this
[03:50] <tdmg> and it's very frustrating
[03:50] <osiris> brk3, nope.  didnt work
[03:50] <kyle_> how do i know if i got ncurse binary installed
[03:50] <toliman> tdmg: most times, nvidia modules screw up after install. check they were created OK, and that they are running.
[03:50] <kyle_> i did a find -name / ncurse* and found something but some files in /var and some in /usr/share/doc/
[03:50] <brk3> osiris: what didnt work
[03:50] <tdmg> toliman, I have no clue how to do any of that.......
[03:51] <osiris> brk3, everytime i restart X, it forgets the resolution
[03:51] <tdmg> I know how to turn on my computer and do some GUI stuff, and the tiniest bit of CLI stuff
[03:51] <Gh0st75> would automatix make install of epsxe easier?
[03:51] <kyle_> dungkalk u there?
[03:51] <brk3> osiris: maybe you need to change something in your xorg.conf file then
[03:52] <brk3> Gh0st75: no dont think it has that in it
[03:52] <toliman> kyle_: check with aptitude install libncurses5
[03:52] <brk3> Gh0st75: are you still getting that ncurses thing?
[03:52] <Gh0st75> yep
[03:52] <Gh0st75> i don't see a .so libcursers package
[03:52] <toliman> tdmg: dmesg is a log file, /var/log/dmesg, that reports (mostly ) kernel errors. if you use the command dmesg, it reports back what goes
[03:53] <tdmg> okay
[03:53] <tdmg> I'll check that
[03:53] <kyle_> what's aptitude install?
[03:53] <adidas> :D
[03:53] <brk3> Gh0st75: make sure you have all the respitories enabled
[03:53] <toliman> if you use dmesg | grep nvidia , youll see only those lines that have nvidia
[03:53] <kyle_> adept shows that i got libncurses
[03:53] <kyle_> installed
[03:53] <toliman> kyle_: aptitude is apt-get with smarts
[03:54] <toliman> not real smarts, but you get the idea
[03:54] <Gh0st75> you mean the universe and multiverse? they are
[03:54] <farous> !find libncurses5
[03:54] <ubotu> Found: libncurses5, libncurses5-dbg, libncurses5-dev
[03:54] <toliman> just libncurses5
[03:54] <farous> Gh0st75: look at ubotu
[03:54] <toliman> you can also use 'sudo aptitude search ncurses'
[03:54] <Gh0st75> i should install the dbg and dev ones too?
[03:55] <farous> Gh0st75: you need libncurses5
[03:55] <toliman> no point
[03:55] <tdmg> toliman, I don't know how to view dmesg.......
[03:55] <tdmg> I don't know CLI :(
[03:55] <toliman> ncurses-dev is used if you need to compile from source
[03:55] <Gh0st75> i have libncurses5 and libncursesw5 installed
[03:55] <farous> Gh0st75: do you need it to compile someht as toliman say
[03:55] <toliman> tdmg: type in dmesg, then hold down shift to get the pipe symbol if you need to.
[03:56] <farous> then you need the dev package right
[03:56] <tdmg> okay
[03:56] <Gh0st75> i was just tryin to get epxse workin :)
[03:56] <toliman> Gh0st75: what complains about ncurses ?
[03:56] <toliman> epsxe ... erp. try running ldconfig
[03:56] <tdmg> okay, I have it open, what should I be looking for?
[03:56] <Gh0st75> when i type epsxe in Konsole i get this error:     ./epsxe: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:57] <Gh0st75> ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied
[03:57] <toliman> ahh, sudo ldconfig
[03:57] <Gh0st75> done
[03:57] <brk3> Gh0st75: run it with sudo before it
[03:58] <toliman> tdmg: after you get dmesg to fill the screen with text, you need to look at the last few things. are there errors , etc ?
[03:58] <tdmg> will it say "error"?
[03:58] <tdmg> because I don't see anything that says "error"
[03:58] <toliman> warning, error, not installed, tainted, problem, segfault
[03:59] <toliman> try dmesg |grep taint
[03:59] <tdmg> "cdrom: open failed" is about as negative as it gets
[03:59] <toliman> if you dont see nvidia in the dmesg output, the new module isnt running yet.
[03:59] <tdmg> ah
[03:59] <tdmg> something
[04:00] <tdmg> "nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel."
[04:00] <tdmg> with the time stamp before it
[04:01] <tdmg> toliman?
[04:01] <toliman> yep. taint means, you need to remake the module to 'suit' the kernel
[04:01] <tdmg> okay
[04:01] <tdmg> so
[04:01] <tdmg> what do I do?
[04:02] <toliman> you should be able to follow the instructions on the forums to do it ... ... ...
[04:02] <toliman> ah
[04:02] <toliman> ok
[04:02] <toliman> maybe not so much
[04:02] <tdmg> :-/
[04:02] <toliman> hmm. what dist you running ?
[04:03] <tdmg> Kubuntu.........
[04:03] <tdmg> DD
[04:03] <kyle_> helloo
[04:03] <kyle_> what are the files in /usr/share/doc/bash/completion-contrib ???
[04:03] <kyle_> i can't even sudo run thoes
[04:04] <toliman> maybe theyre placeholders. do ls -al /usr/share/doc/bash/
[04:05] <toliman> tdmg: read through the list of things here ... its wieldy http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper#WHAT_HAPPENS_IF_YOU_CHANGE_YOUR_KERNEL_OR_IF_YOUR_KERNEL_IS_UPDATED
[04:05] <fakedsympathy> what's the command to install wine?
[04:06] <Gh0st75> still getting the same errors, doesn't appear the sudo ldconfig changes anything
[04:06] <tdmg> toliman, I was using my old kernel when I installed the drivers because the new kernel wouldn't recognize my wireless card, so I don't know what this would have to do with it......
[04:07] <toliman> old kernel, old modules. new kernel, new modules
[04:07] <toliman> new kernel, old modules, linux marks as tainted
[04:07] <kyle_> toliman what are placeholders for?
[04:08] <toliman> i.e. to prevent amusing errors, but also, to prevent backdoors and malicious intent
[04:08] <fakedsympathy> what's the command to install wine?
[04:08] <toliman> placeholders ... symlinks to docs elsewhere or non existing.
[04:08] <tdmg> well, I couldn't sudo in the new kernel, so I can't get any drivers there :-/
[04:08] <kyle_> oh
[04:08] <kyle_> so they're not actual applications?
[04:09] <toliman> tdmg: whats the name of the kernel ... try uname -r
[04:09] <[Relic] > anyone know if I can just mass copy an old install onto a new one w/o too many problems or do I need to reinstall everything?
[04:09] <toliman> [Relic] : change your sources list to dapper, run dist-upgrade
[04:10] <[Relic] > switching HDs not upgrading
[04:10] <mpupu> does adept manage software removal the same way as aptitude? (removing unneeded dependencies)
[04:10] <tdmg> toliman, I had just installed Kubuntu, might it be more worthwhile for me to reinstall Kubuntu rather than fret over this?
[04:10] <kendrick> hey all
[04:10] <tdmg> I only got more problems as I went along
[04:10] <kyle_> mpupu how do you know if they're unneeded dependencies?
[04:10] <tdmg> maybe I should just start from scratch again.....
[04:11] <toliman> tdmg: maybe. i had to build my drivers yesterday, laptop install. fiddly as all (*^%
[04:11] <tdmg> well
[04:11] <tdmg> I'll install again and then come back to you guys :P
[04:11] <mpupu> kyle_: more or less everything you didn't install manually
[04:11] <toliman> if it worked before you 'fixed' it... do it from scratch
[04:11] <kyle_> mpupu i was looking in adept and pretty much everything was installed haha
[04:12] <[Relic] > just wondering if I copy over the /usr /bin /etc  etc. directories and reboot will everything previously installed be installed?
[04:12] <kyle_> i dont' think i'll be needing 90% of them
[04:12] <tdmg> toliman, it "worked" better
[04:12] <toliman> at least its not gentoo. all source, all 15 hours needed to get xorg + kde compiled from scratch. one wrong move and its a deep learning curve
[04:12] <fakedsympathy> what's the command to install wine?
[04:12] <tdmg> the resolution was all messed up, and still was/is
[04:12] <toliman> fakedsympathy: from cvs, or from the muiltiverse source list ?
[04:13] <fakedsympathy> uh. i dunno what you just said >_>
[04:13] <fakedsympathy> see, I"m a newb here.
[04:13] <toliman> tdmg: if you try this line ... sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` ...
[04:13] <toliman> that would put all the modules into place that are needed
[04:13] <kyle_> coooool my wine works
[04:13] <toliman> however, reinstall might be quicker
[04:14] <toliman> and less pain
[04:14] <adidas> what do think about "wine" ?
[04:14] <tdmg> I'll ask you about that again when I have Kubuntu running in 30 minutes toliman :D
[04:14] <toliman> fakedsympathy: in adept, check your sources list
[04:14] <kyle_> adidas i dunno my cousin just sent me notepad.exe
[04:14] <toliman> 'manage repositories'
[04:15] <adidas> kyle_: oh really ? mine send me mspaint.exe
[04:15] <fakedsympathy> gimmie a sec
[04:15] <adidas> it's soo cooool
[04:16] <fakedsympathy> Okay I'm in "manage repositories"
[04:16] <fakedsympathy> now what?
[04:16] <toliman> add a new line ...
[04:16] <toliman>  deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[04:16] <toliman>  deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[04:17] <kyle_> whoa i got a problem i can't play mp3
[04:17] <fakedsympathy> Cool, wine shows up now. what's "wine-dev"?
[04:17] <toliman> kyle_: yep
[04:17] <kyle_> amarok opens but there's nothing
[04:18] <toliman> need to update xine/arts something so u can play mp3
[04:18] <toliman> i found that one out yesterday
[04:18] <toliman> it does it automatically tho
[04:19] <toliman> fakedsympathy: anything with -dev is for compiling other programs that need libraries from the original app. irrelevant in most cases
[04:19] <kyle_> toliman how? adept?
[04:20] <toliman> umm ... i cant recall. it just b0rked when i tried it, then said ... installing xine-restricted/extras something
[04:20] <toliman> hmm...
[04:21] <toliman> you have xine as the engine in amarok ?
[04:21] <kyle_> toliman
[04:21] <kyle_> yea
[04:21] <BlackNine> i need some help
[04:21] <BlackNine> getting kubuntu LiveCD running
[04:21] <fakedsympathy> Okay. So I installed wine. Now what do I do? >_> I'm trying to play a game on addictinggames and was told using wine was the only way to get it to work.
[04:21] <BlackNine> I start it up and it gives a blue screen
[04:22] <toliman> fakedsympathy: ahhhh, ok. no.
[04:22] <fakedsympathy> what?
[04:22] <toliman> fakedsympathy: try cedega. it costs like $5, but you can get it from bittorrent.
[04:22] <kyle_> toliman it's installed but how do i update it?
[04:22] <fakedsympathy> The guys I talked to said it needed flash 8 or 9 that linux didn't have
[04:22] <fakedsympathy> so they said wine would work
[04:22] <toliman> ohh
[04:22] <fakedsympathy> money? LOLE. no.
[04:22] <toliman> flash, not wine then
[04:22] <toliman> just flash player
[04:23] <fakedsympathy> that's the thing
[04:23] <fakedsympathy> the latest flashplayer available to linux is 7
[04:23] <fakedsympathy> but this needs higher
[04:23] <fakedsympathy> so they said get wine to emulate it
[04:23] <fakedsympathy> and I have wine now. I just don't know how to use it.
[04:24] <BlackNine> I need help getting kubuntu running, I start it up and it gives a blue screen
[04:25] <BlackNine> without words or anything
[04:25] <toliman> BlackNine: tried installing from the text install menu option ?
[04:25] <kyle_> toliman shoudl i try to reinstall xine
[04:25] <toliman> fakedsympathy: flash8 might be a problem. if swf-player or the GNU swf tools wont play, youll need a wine setup
[04:26] <BlackNine> huh? sorry this is my first time with linux, not i just do normal start up from CD Drive
[04:26] <toliman> kyle_: install the xine extras
[04:26] <fakedsympathy> why is that?
[04:26] <fakedsympathy> doesn't wine just emulate windows?
[04:27] <toliman> its a DLL emulator in a way. it makes windows apps believe they are hooked into windows.
[04:27] <toliman> sort of a half-wacky emulation
[04:27] <kyle_> kk
[04:27] <toliman> there might be a flash8 linux thing on the web
[04:27] <drbreen> its no emulation
[04:27] <drbreen> its an api layer
[04:28] <fakedsympathy> damn this linux stuff confuses my brain v_v
[04:28] <drbreen> thats a big difference
[04:28] <toliman> yes. it is. but api layer is more of a concept than explanation
[04:28] <toliman> anyway
[04:28] <drbreen> yeah but with a windows "emulator" stuff would work on other platforms than i386 too
[04:29] <fakedsympathy> so? What's your point?
[04:29] <fakedsympathy> are you saying pretty much any kinda windows emulator would work or something?
[04:29] <drbreen> an emulator is a fake of the entire device (e.g. a virtuel pc)
[04:29] <D4rkly> wine isnt available for amd64 you need to use i386
[04:29] <fakedsympathy> I'm on i386
[04:29] <drbreen> so with an emulator there be speed problems
[04:30] <drbreen> with this api hook there's only a marginal speed punishment
[04:30] <D4rkly> im running wine and vmware :)
[04:30] <kyle_> toliman there's nothing as xine-extras in adept
[04:31] <toliman> heh .... http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_flash_player
[04:31] <fakedsympathy> what version is that?
[04:31] <D4rkly> i have mp3 support in kaffeine but not amarok ?
[04:31] <fakedsympathy> you sly boots
[04:31] <drbreen> fakedsympathy: download flash player 8 from THE EVIL WEBSITE
[04:31] <drbreen> fakedsympathy: and install it using wine
[04:31] <fakedsympathy> I dunno how to use wine
[04:31] <fakedsympathy> and I dunno what "THE EVIL WEBSITE!" is >_>
[04:31] <toliman> uhh, adept, libxine-extracodecs amarok-xine
[04:32] <drbreen> in a console type: wine myexecutyable.exe
[04:32] <drbreen> or when you click on ot
[04:32] <kyle_> ok search for libxine-extracodecs ?
[04:32] <drbreen> open with "wine"
[04:32] <kyle_> hold on
[04:32] <fakedsympathy> oh. I see
[04:32] <fakedsympathy> thanks
[04:32] <kyle_> toliman foudn it!!!
[04:32] <kyle_> ok
[04:32] <toliman> fakedsympathy: 1) install wine, then 2) win32 version of firefox inside wine, then 3) visit a site that needs flash to install it.
[04:33] <kyle_> what about aRts for xine?
[04:33] <kyle_> what does that do?
[04:33] <drbreen> aRts is an audo engine
[04:33] <drbreen> audio
[04:33] <toliman> arts is the engine for kde/aq
[04:33] <maltaethiron> ok guys, time to help out maltaethiron
[04:33] <toliman> qt
[04:34] <kyle_> uh so do i need that aRts plugin for xine?
[04:34] <toliman> arts runs the sound mixers and audio output in most of the kde audio apps. xine is a video player that also plays audio files
[04:34] <kyle_> ok so best to go yes on it i think
[04:34] <kyle_> brb
[04:34] <DFM> need help trying to reconfigure etho. installed for a friend. worked here but when he plugs in he can't surf on his kubuntu box
[04:35] <DFM> i upgraded his version of kde not thinking about it and now it is a little different
[04:35] <toliman> dfm: what kind of network is it
[04:35] <DFM> so I can't follow along
[04:35] <osiris> what is the equivilent of xscreensaver in kubuntu
[04:35] <DFM> wired ehternet
[04:35] <toliman> osiris: isnt one
[04:35] <osiris> for those of us not using the k in kubuntu
[04:36] <DFM> port is working he has other computer's working fine just need to get the linux box to pull from his network
[04:36] <DFM> dhcp
[04:36] <toliman> xscreensaver hooks into xorg, not a kde thing.
[04:36] <toliman> dfm: check /etc/defaults/network
[04:37] <D4rkly> kaffiene plays off my ntfs drive but amarok wont ?
[04:37] <toliman> erm, /etc/network/interfaces
[04:37] <toliman> i was thinking of something else
[04:37] <kyle_> shyt
[04:37] <maltaethiron> i need to play DVDs cause im going on vacation...how do i do this?    note: kaffeine gives me an odd error
[04:37] <kyle_> mp3s still wont work
[04:37] <DFM> ah thats why I can't find it lol
[04:37] <maltaethiron> is there any other program i can get?
[04:38] <toliman> dfm: tried dhclient eth0 ?
[04:38] <kyle_> it tells me playlist finished
[04:38] <DFM> what do I need to look for in here?
[04:38] <toliman> maltaethiron: try another app. vlc / ogle, xine-ui. do a search
[04:38] <drbreen> malthaethiron: use Videolan Client (VLC Media Player)
[04:38] <drbreen> its in universe
[04:38] <DFM> blows my mind that he couldn't just plug in and go
[04:39] <maltaethiron> ok thanks drbreen
[04:39] <maltaethiron> and toliman
[04:39] <drbreen> !VLC > maltaethiron
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about VLC - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <drbreen> !dvd > maltaethiron
[04:39] <toliman> dfm: dhcp isnt always auto. you can run ifup eth0 as well
[04:39] <maltaethiron> ill get it through synaptic
[04:39] <toliman> yup
[04:39] <DFM> that command from a shell?
[04:39] <toliman> sudo ifup eth0
[04:40] <DFM> keep forgetting the super user
[04:40] <toliman> :)
[04:40] <toliman> its chronic
[04:40] <DFM> lol
[04:43] <kyle_> man this is not good
[04:43] <kyle_> can't play mp3s
[04:43] <kyle_> do i need to reboot or what
[04:44] <kyle_> brb
[04:45] <toliman> eh, close amarok, open it again
[04:46] <tk> was anyone else in here interested in those wallpapers that we were discussing the other night?
[04:46] <adidas> what is Xorg?
[04:46] <tdmg> toliman, okay now, I've reinstalled Kubuntu.  Now I want to update everything and get all the programs that I'll need for daily stuff.  Can you help me out? :D
[04:46] <erofee> you know what would be a great feature for k/ubuntu.
[04:46] <D4rkly> how can i get my ati usb rf remote to work ?
[04:46] <erofee> the ability to rate packages in adept/synaptic
[04:47] <adidas> it tooks so much of my memory :(
[04:47] <erofee> so that way when you were after an application to do X and you found 5 of them, you could pick the best one first off.
[04:48] <tk> erofee: te "best" is more often than not a relative term to the person using it ;)
[04:48] <toliman> erofee: yeah ... i know what you mean
[04:48] <erofee> that's true
[04:48] <erofee> but it took me weeks to get onto amarok.
[04:48] <toliman> once youve seen 'ogle', you wonder who would ever use it.
[04:48] <erofee> i was using kaffeine for sooo long.
[04:48] <tdmg> toliman, *poke* :P
[04:48] <tk> some people think Paint Shop Pro is the best thing in the world... others (like me) cant stand it.... :P
[04:49] <kyle_> back
[04:49] <toliman> tdmg: automatix
[04:49] <erofee> GIMP....that's the ticket
[04:49] <toliman> will save you about 20 minutes
[04:49] <tdmg> automatix?
[04:49] <toliman> do a web search
[04:49] <tdmg> okay
[04:49] <toliman> automatix ubuntu
[04:49] <trpr11> i don't think rating the packages would be productive for the developers of all those applications that weren't so popular
[04:49] <erofee> that is true
[04:49] <toliman> add the repos using adept and copy/paste
[04:50] <kyle_> d
[04:50] <toliman> and the script does the rest
[04:50] <h3sp4wn> I would strongly advise against automatix (having seen it trash many systems)
[04:50] <tdmg> toliman, automatix is better than easyubuntu?
[04:51] <h3sp4wn> tdmg: I would recommend against using any of those things and following the restricted howto
[04:51] <h3sp4wn> !restricted
[04:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:52] <camerons> anyone know how to get kmail to sync an imap account so I can then go offline and still read all the messages?
[04:52] <tdmg> thanks :D
[04:52] <toliman> well, restricted is fun. so it doing stuff the long way
[04:52] <tdmg> I want to update my kernel first.  What is the right way to do it? because last time I messed up :(
[04:53] <toliman> why update ?
[04:53] <tdmg> so I shouldn't update everything?
[04:54] <toliman> preferably, stick with the release modules first, since they are compatible with the kernel images & apps
[04:54] <[Relic] > how do you mount HDs with the live cd running?
[04:54] <[Relic] > mount
[04:55] <camerons> anyone know anything about kmail with imap?
[04:55] <toliman> [Relic] :  the hal / pmount progs  usually mount all the FS it recognises into the /media/ folder.
[04:56] <swatgoss> how to verifiy i use a SMP kernel ?
[04:56] <toliman> swatgoss: uname -a
[04:56] <swatgoss> ty
[04:56] <D4rkly> will lirc work for rf remotes too ?
[04:56] <h3sp4wn> swatgoss: cat /proc/cpuinfo (see if you have 2 proc's listed)
[04:56] <swatgoss> some guys here got HT P4 on laptops ?
[04:56] <tdmg> so, no updating my kernel? I'm still confused.......
[04:57] <swatgoss> h3sp4wn uname -a works too :p
[04:57] <tdmg> I just want to make sure
[04:57] <trpr11> tdmg: i wouldn't unless you have a reason (ie to get some funky hardware working)
[04:57] <toliman> tricky stuff SMP. /proc isnt entirely reliable.
[04:57] <tdmg> okay
[04:57] <tdmg> now, the nVidia drivers
[04:57] <kyle_> toliman my mp3s still won't work
[04:57] <kyle_> any ideas?
[04:57] <h3sp4wn> swatgoss: but that won't tell you whether hyperthreading is working
[04:57] <swatgoss> kyle_ do u got all codecs ?
[04:58] <toliman> kyle_: go into amarok config, see what the engine is called
[04:58] <kyle_> well yea i installed the extra xine pack
[04:58] <swatgoss> h3sp4wn i think it is ... the CPU fan is working ALL time ...
[04:58] <kyle_> k
[04:58] <swatgoss> under win it work 30sec every 2minutes ...
[04:58] <swatgoss> kyle_ ALL codecs ?
[04:58] <kyle_> it's xine engine
[04:58] <h3sp4wn> swatgoss: If you are not running the 686 kernel (in uname -r) then you can't have hyperthreading
[04:58] <toliman> swatgoss: cpufreq-info
[04:58] <tdmg> guys, when I search for nVidia in adept I only get "nvidia-kernel-common" what happened to everything else?
[04:58] <swatgoss> kyle_ and i got some problems with some mp3 on my sys too
[04:59] <kyle_> yea what's up with that
[04:59] <kyle_> kaffiene same chyt
[04:59] <swatgoss> kyle_ encode ur mp3 to ogg :p
[04:59] <toliman> it might be that its under 'restricted' license
[04:59] <erofee> what errors are you getting, if any?
[05:00] <swatgoss> h3sp4wn CAN'T ?
[05:00] <kyle_> restricted?
[05:00] <tdmg> so how do I get access to the nVidia drivers?
[05:00] <[Relic] > Device is not removable error with pmount
[05:00] <swatgoss> h3sp4wn why this should be deactivated on 686 kernels ?
[05:00] <DFM> use easyubuntu for the driver's
[05:00] <erofee> tdmg: you could try the nVidia website.
[05:00] <h3sp4wn> swatgoss: I didn't say that it only works on the 686 kernel
[05:00] <tdmg> why would something so common as an nVidia driver be restricted?
[05:00] <DFM> that to nvidia does have a linux driver
[05:00] <toliman> nvidia stuff should have nvidia-glx everywhere
[05:01] <trpr11> tdmg: its not open source. nvidia gave us the middle finger.
[05:01] <swatgoss> h3sp4wn sry my mistake
[05:01] <DFM> proprietary (bad spelling)
[05:01] <tdmg> but just yesterday I had a whole slue of nVidia packages to choose from......
[05:01] <swatgoss> h3sp4wn its 5am in my country ... i'am a bit tired i think :p
[05:01] <erofee> did you run an update
[05:01] <swatgoss> h3sp4wn and i got a 686 SMP kernel
[05:01] <erofee> maybe your most recent update wiped the packages from the list
[05:01] <DFM> however they do have a driver you can download but if I am not mistaken you will have to compile it against your kernel. not hard though
[05:01] <toliman> debian is anal about OSS , if it's not source compiled, its restricted
[05:02] <tdmg> erofee, I just reinstalled Kubuntu :P
[05:02] <erofee> that could be it
[05:02] <tdmg> so......
[05:02] <toliman> so hardware drivers, licensed software, voip, mp3, mpeg2, dvd css, etc. is all restricted
[05:02] <erofee> try the nVidia website to see if they offer it.,
[05:02] <trpr11> they offer it of course
[05:02] <tdmg> couldn't I just open my repos or something?
[05:02] <DFM> they do I have used it before
[05:03] <toliman> its all available, but you need to modify your repositories so that apt can access nvidia stuff
[05:03] <DFM> you could use easyubuntu to install it
[05:03] <erofee> if you can download the debian install you can just cli install it
[05:03] <DFM> at least it says it will, I have ati and have a much more difficult time
[05:03] <tdmg> is it a bad idea to enable all my repos though?
[05:03] <swatgoss> is there a way to control fans with a "embedded program" ?
[05:03] <erofee> it is really up to you
[05:04] <tdmg> I don't know the pros and cons
[05:04] <kyle_> what do u mean ? why restricted?
[05:04] <kyle_> they don't like music?
[05:04] <swatgoss> kyle_ mpeg layer 3 = Fraunhoffer ...
[05:04] <swatgoss> not free
[05:05] <trpr11> kyle_: restricted as in not an open format.. as in a company somewhere charges people to program players that will use the format
[05:05] <erofee> if you open universe/multiverse repos, you are letting yourself have access to a wider range of not-thoroughly tested apps
[05:05] <kyle_> so thats why my kaffiene and amarok can't play my mp3s?
[05:05] <erofee> i have never struck a problem with any packages i have got from them, but you never know.
[05:05] <swatgoss> kyle_ i don't think ... probably an encoding stuff that is bugging ...
[05:06] <toliman> mp3 codec and tech is licensed to fraunhofer group. fhg. they developed mpeg1 layer 3 tech. but layer 2 is ok.
[05:06] <toliman> its just wierd restrictions is all
[05:06] <DFM> any one have any idea why sometimes when I boot my machine my resolution will go to 800x600 when default is 1024x768. It just started doing it. I have rebooted and restarted x several times. my wife's desktop will only display 8x6
[05:06] <kyle_> isn't there a way to make it work against that then?
[05:06] <swatgoss> kyle_ if u want them NOW
[05:06] <swatgoss> install XMMS
[05:06] <trpr11> kyle_: i think all you need is the libmad0 package.. not sure though
[05:06] <kyle_> awwww
[05:07] <swatgoss> or try to get some codecs ...
[05:07] <toliman> if you change the repository entry to deb http://blah dapper main ..... to dapper "main restricted universe multiverse "
[05:07] <toliman> and then update it, no more problems
[05:07] <kyle_> swatgoss i installed the xine extra codecs already but still same problem
[05:07] <swatgoss> kyle_ i do it too ... it play some mp3 but not 100% of them
[05:08] <kyle_> man i never heard of this kinda problem
[05:08] <kyle_> some mp3 works but not all hahaha
[05:08] <swatgoss> codecs used to encode them ...
[05:08] <swatgoss> vbr ...
[05:08] <swatgoss> profiles ...
[05:08] <kyle_> i think i did add restricted universe multi
[05:08] <swatgoss> all kind of stuff like that
[05:08] <kyle_> o
[05:08] <toliman> yeah, mp3 is a shitstorm in linux circles... since you throretically have to pay to encode/decode it.
[05:08] <[Relic] > think I need to edit the fstab but not 100% sure what I need to copy this one drive onto the next
[05:09] <swatgoss> all this kind of parameters can bug the playback
[05:09] <trpr11> there isn't drm in the mp3s are there? would make sense if only *some* of them refused to play
[05:09] <toliman> not so much now, but its why its not included on the distribution.
[05:09] <swatgoss> toliman shitstorm ... in french its "tempete de merdes" ... sounds good :p
[05:10] <kyle_> man if they got dvd to play on linux i sure don't see why the heck not
[05:10] <swatgoss> DVD = AC3 ...
[05:10] <keleus> amarok won't use visualizations, says libvisual might not be installed. It is... what do I try next...
[05:10] <toliman> trpr11: not the files itself, the tech is licensed to fhg. each time you decode an mp3, someone has paid (ideally you) for the ability to decode it. companies usually foot the bill to buy a license and break the cost down
[05:10] <swatgoss> or some other specifik codecs
[05:10] <kyle_> the idea just pissed me off not the OS
[05:10] <toliman> sme with ac3 and DTS,
[05:11] <maltaethiron> guys, still having problems playing DVDs
[05:11] <trpr11> toliman: hrm. thats what i thought. so there isn't anything in the mp3 itself that would prevent it from playing on an unlicensed player?
[05:11] <maltaethiron> how would i play a DVD in vlc
[05:11] <toliman> maltaethiron: open drive
[05:11] <swatgoss> but ac3 have lot less personalised codecs
[05:11] <maltaethiron> (just wanna make sure theres nothng tricky)
[05:11] <toliman> bleh, open disc
[05:11] <maltaethiron> toliman: like physically or on the computer
[05:11] <maltaethiron> ?
[05:11] <keleus> maltaethiron, go to open disc, and choose dvd(menus)
[05:11] <swatgoss> maltaethiron do you have libdvdcss2 or something like that ?
[05:11] <toliman> theres a menu item called open disc
[05:12] <maltaethiron> no swatgoss
[05:12] <toliman> you *might* need libdvdcss2 ... HEH
[05:12] <swatgoss> maltaethiron try to get them :p
[05:12] <toliman> thats not going to be fun.
[05:12] <keleus> maltaethiron, hold on
[05:12] <maltaethiron> well, lets do this
[05:12] <swatgoss> !codecs
[05:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:12] <kyle_> ok so does anybody know which repository main restricted universe multi for an all rounded mp3 engine?
[05:12] <Iam8up> !hcl
[05:12] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:13] <swatgoss> kyle_ XMMS
[05:13] <swatgoss> play all mp3
[05:13] <swatgoss> winamp like ...
[05:13] <keleus> maltaethiron, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9
[05:13] <swatgoss> (install XMMS skins package too :p some are not bad)
[05:13] <keleus> to jump to your question specifically
[05:14] <kyle_> yea i kno
[05:14] <toliman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205467&highlight=libdvdcss2
[05:14] <kyle_> can kaffiene or amarok use xmms mp3 engine?
[05:14] <S|lv3r_d|CK> spanish
[05:14] <Iam8up> questino..if ubuntu supports it, does kubuntu support it? how well do kubuntu and ubuntu go together? what i mean is..if theres a change with ubuntu, is kubuntu parralled to the change?
[05:14] <kyle_> in any way?
[05:14] <swatgoss> i don't think so
[05:14] <kyle_> ahhhhh
[05:14] <kyle_> hah
[05:14] <swatgoss> its XMMS plugins
[05:14] <kyle_> i thot i got some linux smarts
[05:14] <keleus> Iam8up, kubuntu = ubuntu but with KDE default not Gnome. They have all the same packages
[05:15] <kyle_> i'm sure xmms is opensource rite
[05:15] <Iam8up> keleus - ok, thanks
[05:15] <toliman> kyle_: switch to amarok-arts in adept. see if it helps
[05:15] <kyle_> so in theory.............
[05:15] <swatgoss> kyle_ opensource doesnt mean compatible :p
[05:15] <kyle_> redevelop a xmms mp3 plugin for amarok/kaffiend
[05:15] <swatgoss> probably already done
[05:15] <S|lv3r_d|CK> HELP
[05:16] <kyle_> really?
[05:16] <toliman> Iam8up: you just need to install kubuntu-desktop, it makes the change for you.
[05:16] <DFM> I have a question. I have about 10 gigs of downloaded music all with drm and require winmedia 10. any way to play them on linux?
[05:16] <kyle_> already done as in u know where or have seen it somewhere?
[05:16] <Iam8up> toliman - what changes..?
[05:16] <kyle_> brb
[05:16] <syntaxx> anyone using tvtime? my sound seems not working properly
[05:16] <swatgoss> woot a bug :p
[05:16] <toliman> changes to the bootup, installs kde apps, etc. you can have both
[05:17] <toliman> but you can only have one kind of boot manager,
[05:17] <[Relic] > what's the best way to copy on drive to another  -dpRv *  ?
[05:17] <swatgoss> speaking about boot ... how to remove/remove a kernel image ?
[05:17] <[Relic] > ls -la
[05:17] <toliman> [Relic] : dd is the best way. but unorthodox
[05:17] <kyle_> toliman installing amarok-arts in adept
[05:17] <swatgoss> lol remove/deinstall sry
[05:17] <[Relic] > :)
[05:17] <toliman> swatgoss: remove the kernel itself or the entry in grub ?
[05:18] <swatgoss> entry and image
[05:18] <toliman> either way, its in /boot/
[05:18] <Dani> question: i installed firefox in kubuntu drapper but when click the executable nothing happens
[05:18] <kyle_> wow this is nuts i didn't know mp3 was restricted
[05:18] <toliman> vmlinuz-version and initrd-version. dont do it lightly
[05:18] <kyle_> i've never heard of anything that's "restricted" format
[05:18] <swatgoss> in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:18] <keleus> freaking javascript! sf.net download script is not only annoying but has killed konquerer on me twice...
[05:18] <[Relic] > what is dd?    (basically I am replacing a drive that is questionable in preformance so I don't want to reset everything on the new drive)
[05:19] <kyle_> i mean coming from goody mac /windows environ
[05:19] <toliman> kyle_: if you can make money from it, its likely to be licensed.
[05:19] <kyle_> heh
[05:19] <toliman> drugs, alcohol, firearms, mp3's, dvd's
[05:19] <kyle_> yeap
[05:19] <kyle_> brb
[05:20] <keleus> ARG 3 times now. wget time
[05:20] <syntaxx> anyone using tvtime? my sound seems not working properly
[05:20] <toliman> [Relic] : dd copies the raw data from the disc, byte by byte from the drive in raw form. like norton ghost does.
[05:21] <toliman> [Relic] : you can use a regular backup app, which reads the filesystem and uses compression, error checking, etc.
[05:21] <Dani> which is best irc client for windows
[05:21] <DFM> chatzilla
[05:21] <swatgoss> Dani mIRC ?
[05:21] <swatgoss> i only used this one
[05:21] <toliman> Dani, mIRC is the first choice. not best, but first.
[05:21] <Dani> how about hydra irc
[05:21] <[Relic] > not backing it up though everything needs to be normal and usable once I shut down and remove the old drive
[05:21] <syntaxx> i wonder whats wrong in tvtime sound in debian it works fine but when i shift to ubuntu my sound not working properly anyone who can help me?
[05:22] <stray77> you can check alsamixer settings
[05:22] <toliman> if youre lucky you can even get IRC in firefox as a plugin
[05:22] <bubs> dani: xchat
[05:22] <swatgoss> Konversation isn' on win ?
[05:22] <DFM> that's what I use w/o any problems and it's easy to get
[05:22] <swatgoss> +t
[05:22] <syntaxx> stray77: tvtime have sound but no voices
[05:22] <Dani> yeah i want a plugin for firefox
[05:22] <DFM> when on kubuntu box I use konversation
[05:22] <Dani> but my firefox doesn't startup on kubuntu
[05:23] <swatgoss> do u restarted the GUI ?
[05:23] <DFM> remove it and erinstall it
[05:23] <swatgoss> since u installed Ffox ?
[05:23] <toliman> yup. you can make knoversation like mIRC and mIRC like konversation
[05:23] <swatgoss> toliman not only the interface
[05:23] <Dani> well i used the script the from kubuntu support forums
[05:24] <toliman> well, all the shortcuts look/work ok too
[05:24] <swatgoss> complete/free "moving" (portage in french) of Konversation to win
[05:24] <Dani> i also did the tar zip thing for firefox and went directly to folder and tried to start it but nothing happens
[05:25] <Dani> i guess it might be system requirements but i am total noob
[05:25] <swatgoss> system ?
[05:25] <toliman> Dani, its probably a linux thing
[05:25] <swatgoss> i d'ont think :p
[05:25] <DFM> dani, did you try and get it from adept?
[05:25] <swatgoss> Dani Firefox could run on my smartphone :p
[05:25] <toliman> Dani: if you unpacked firefox-bin, did you chmod u+x
[05:26] <Dani> does anybody know something similar but open source to VM WARE WORKSTATION
[05:26] <toliman> use a package manager, its faster, cleaner, easier, less prone to evil
[05:26] <toliman> vmware player
[05:26] <DFM> amen
[05:26] <Kiongku> hey guys.. my kpersonalizer keeps showing up at each session.. how i stop it
[05:26] <keleus> Dani, Xen, or qemu
[05:26] <swatgoss> what kind oe "evil" ?
[05:26] <swatgoss> -e +f
[05:26] <Dani> no i didn't use chmod u+x after unpacking
[05:26] <DFM> the evil that makes ur head hurt trying to figure something out
[05:26] <keleus> Dani, but VMWARE Server is currently free (as in $$$)
[05:26] <syntaxx> i wonder whats wrong in tvtime sound in debian it works fine but when i shift to ubuntu my sound not working properly anyone who can help me?
[05:27] <Dani> i am very new to linux
[05:27] <keleus> Dani, suggested reading: http://tldp.org
[05:27] <toliman> evil, as in the random acts that installing and updating software can make things very broken if the files are needed elsewhere
[05:27] <swatgoss> lol
[05:27] <toliman> syntaxx: tvtime uses esd ?
[05:27] <DFM> dani you have to make the package and make it executable
[05:27] <DFM> I think that was put right
[05:28] <syntaxx> toliman: no idea
[05:28] <Dani> thankx i am currently reading the linuxcommand.org to learn bash
[05:28] <keleus> Dani, linux like systems are more secure then windows in that files need to be marked as executable before the system will run them as programs/scripts
[05:28] <toliman> uhuh. in tvtime, what does it say under output.
[05:29] <Dani> how do i mark it executable
[05:29] <syntaxx> toliman: in output configuration is just the overscan settings apply matte 16:9 output all about windows
[05:29] <syntaxx> toliman: but in input conf preferred audio mode mono stereo sap
[05:29] <keleus> your opinion: bison or byacc?
[05:29] <CVirus> anybody using gmail with Kmail ?
[05:30] <swatgoss> Dani try to use ADEPT or synaptic most of the time u install things (this words mean "use it everytime")
[05:30] <keleus> CVirus, yea
[05:30] <CVirus> keleus: what are the exact settings for sending ?
[05:30] <keleus> CVirus, hold on a sec
[05:30] <CVirus> keleus: sure
[05:30] <syntaxx> toliman: my sound is just buzzzz no voices
[05:30] <Dani> well when i load adept what do i do
[05:30] <keleus> host smtp.gmail.com
[05:30] <toliman> using dvb or analog tuner ?
[05:30] <DFM> i couldn't get evolution working because of certain ports needing to be set up, haven't tried kmail
[05:30] <swatgoss> Dani search for program u want to install
[05:30] <keleus> port 465
[05:31] <keleus> requires authentication
[05:31] <keleus> use your full email as account
[05:31] <swatgoss> Dani then request install :p and its done ...
[05:31] <syntaxx> toliman: im using pinnacle tv tuner
[05:31] <keleus> use SSL encryption and PLAIN login-type
[05:31] <toliman> keleus: i think it needs pop-then-smtp for login credentials. i cant remember
[05:31] <CVirus> keleus: login ?
[05:31] <swatgoss> Dani it will /downlaod/install everything it will need
[05:32] <swatgoss> Dani and make a beautiful shortcut in the correct cat. of programs in K menu
[05:32] <Dani> thankx guys
[05:32] <keleus> CVirus, hold on
[05:32] <Dani> did anybody check out the google notebooks
[05:32] <kyle_> swatgoss what is Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) and Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger)  ?
[05:32] <Dani> its pretty cool now i can save all my notes online
[05:32] <_kapay_> #msg nickserv indetify
[05:32] <swatgoss> kyle_ 2 versions of Ubuntu :p
[05:32] <toliman> notebooks ?
[05:32] <swatgoss> kyle_ 5.10 is "ancient"
[05:32] <Dani> yes its a new service by google
[05:32] <DFM> kyle, dapper is the latest version with Long Term Support
[05:33] <toliman> you can always dist-upgrade to dapper
[05:33] <kyle_> i found codec for the two versions of ubuntu but tey're different
[05:33] <swatgoss> kyle_ prefer dapper ...
[05:33] <Dani> goto google labs and click google notebooks
[05:33] <kyle_> ok
[05:33] <Dani> if u need a gmail invite let me know
[05:33] <toliman> dapper will stay minty fresh for longer, theoreteically
[05:33] <DFM> anyone got gmail to work in evolution?
[05:33] <toliman> until 6.11 comes out
[05:34] <toliman> ive got gmail to work in outlook, i dont imagine it to be any more difficult
[05:34] <DFM> it is
[05:34] <swatgoss> toliman ?!? outlook ?
[05:34] <toliman> use the outlook settings from the gmail support pages
[05:34] <DFM> doesn't give me a place to set the ports that gmail requires
[05:34] <keleus> CVirus, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1356706 - instructions for KMAIL midway down the first post
[05:34] <maltaethiron> toliman and swatgoss: you made it sound like getting libdvdcss2 would be hard
[05:34] <stray77> at least he didnt say outlook express
[05:34] <CVirus> DFM: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[05:34] <CVirus> keleus: Thanks alot
[05:35] <DFM> ah well duh I should have known, thanks
[05:35] <swatgoss> maltaethiron add repos, install libdvdcss2 and play dvd ?
[05:35] <swatgoss> maltaethiron u could need some other codecs too
[05:35] <maltaethiron> swatgoss: i already took care of my repos like a week ago..i just got libdvdcss2 and now the dvds work fine
[05:35] <swatgoss> !codecs
[05:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:35] <keleus> How do I set up my system to use "-02 -pipe" all the time when compiling?
[05:36] <on3egs> je suis la ?
[05:36] <swatgoss> maltaethiron u get all codecs from the list here ?https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:36] <syntaxx> hmm
[05:36] <h3sp4wn> keleus: put it in CFLAGS
[05:36] <maltaethiron> on3egs: tu parles francais?
[05:36] <syntaxx> well i think ill be back my debian box =\
[05:36] <D4rkly> has anyone got the ati rf remote to work with lirc ?
[05:36] <swatgoss> t'es francais en plus ... mais c'est pas permis de pas demander :p
[05:37] <on3egs> oui belgique
[05:37] <keleus> h3sp4wn, is that variable stored somewhere on ubuntu? every other distro ive tried had /etc/make.conf but not here :/
[05:37] <swatgoss> pas possible parfois IRC ...
[05:37] <CVirus> keleus: Unrecognized sending protocol .. unable to send
[05:37] <CVirus> transport*
[05:37] <on3egs> lol je suis new sous unbuntu
[05:37] <maltaethiron> swatgoss: did you just say that its against the rules in here? haha, its been a few months since i last spoke french
[05:38] <swatgoss> Ubuntu ou Kubuntu ?
[05:38] <keleus> CVirus, use SMTP not sendmail, if you arn't already
[05:38] <on3egs> je suis windowsien et veux devenire linuxiens lol
[05:38] <swatgoss> maltaethiron ... mouarf
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> keleus: just put it in your .bashrc
[05:38] <swatgoss> on3egs amene tes miches sur #Kubuntu-fr
[05:38] <CVirus> keleus: its SMTP for sure
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> keleus: I think its only bsd type distro's that have /etc/make.conf
[05:38] <keleus> h3sp4wn, can you give me an example? so i dont mess my syntax?
[05:38] <on3egs> oui
[05:39] <on3egs> c dja fait de puis quelque jours :)
[05:39] <toliman> CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe"
[05:39] <keleus> h3sp4wn, export CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
[05:39] <kyle_> toliman how can i install a .deb package in kubuntu?
[05:39] <Dani> what do i need to run my kubuntu windows server or windows server client from vm ware
[05:39] <toliman> dpkg -i
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> keleus: yep you would probably want to set the arch though
[05:39] <Megaqwerty> I'm installing KDE on Ubuntu and it is asking me what I want for my Postfix configuration...What is that?
[05:39] <on3egs> pas bcp de francais ici ?
[05:40] <maltaethiron> on3egs: est-ce que tu parles anlgais?
[05:40] <toliman> Megaqwerty: postfix = local mail server
[05:40] <maltaethiron> anglais**
[05:40] <on3egs> no sorry men :) dsoler pas vraiment lol dommage pour moi
[05:40] <Megaqwerty> so, what do I want to select?
[05:40] <keleus> h3sp4wn, "Linux epicenter 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:13:28 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux" - use i686 for the arch?
[05:40] <toliman> Megaqwerty: use localhost if its an option.
[05:41] <on3egs> j ai un strees sur adept manager
[05:41] <Megaqwerty> thanks...I have "Local only"
[05:41] <Megaqwerty> should I use that?
[05:41] <swatgoss> viens sur #kubuntu-fr
[05:41] <on3egs> veux plus dmarrer
[05:41] <on3egs> comment je fais
[05:41] <on3egs> comment je fais ?
[05:41] <swatgoss> clic sur le lien en bleu ptetre ? :p
[05:41] <on3egs> lol oki
[05:41] <swatgoss> ou tu tapes /join #kubuntu-fr
[05:41] <Kiongku_> bah.. on ne parle pas francais ici :D
[05:41] <toliman> yep, if your CPU is a pentium 3 or 4 / amd athlon, i686 is fine as arch.
[05:41] <Dani> ---keleus--- do i need the vm ware server or the server client
[05:42] <Kiongku_> maltaethiron: francais O_o
[05:42] <swatgoss> Kiongku_ belge je crois
[05:42] <toliman> bonjour, cava, je ne pas francais
[05:42] <on3egs> oui
[05:42] <Kiongku_> ah lol dac
[05:42] <maltaethiron> kiongku: oui, et?
[05:42] <on3egs> Enghien 7850
[05:42] <Megaqwerty> toliman: should I make the mail name "localhost" ?
[05:42] <swatgoss> moi francais pas contre
[05:42] <on3egs> lol
[05:42] <toliman> yep
[05:43] <swatgoss> paR contre
[05:43] <Kiongku_> maltaethiron: rien.. :P juste par simple curiosity.. ok i stopping talking french
[05:43] <swatgoss> mouhahaha
[05:43] <Megaqwerty> simple percentage this has french channel?
[05:43] <maltaethiron> haha, nice kiongku...yeah i just took it in school
[05:43] <on3egs> bye les amis ;)  73
[05:43] <maltaethiron> i speak it a lot though
[05:43] <on3egs> gtood bye my friends 73
[05:43] <maltaethiron> bye on3egs
[05:44] <Kiongku_> curiosite but dunt know wehre the freaking special characters in linux
[05:44] <keleus> aaah march=pentium4 would be better
[05:44] <maltaethiron> me niether
[05:44] <keleus> if i want MMX and such
[05:44] <swatgoss> yep, difficult tu make an  with QWERTY
[05:44] <Kiongku_> maltaethiron: btw u know where kdestart is in kubuntu?
[05:44] <toliman> must be the 6 hours i spent not sleeping in french class. i only remember bad greetings, counting and how to insult french people (pretend u have an american accent)
[05:44] <Kiongku_> swagoss; hahaha
[05:44] <Kiongku_> *swatgoss: hahaha
[05:44] <snowman_> wondering if anyone could give me a hand with a stupid, yet annoying, floppy drive question :P
[05:44] <Megaqwerty> Merci pour votre aide!
[05:45] <maltaethiron> uh, isnt kde a part of kubuntu
[05:45] <maltaethiron> ?
[05:45] <Dani> in firefox does anybody if its possible to turn off flash pictures sounds active x with 1 click each separatly
[05:45] <keleus> h3sp4wn, should i use march or mtune? If for some reason i change kernel to i386 or i586?
[05:45] <snowman_> basically, I have the normal fstab line, and no matter what disk I put in it's telling me I have to specify the fs type.
[05:45] <Kiongku> maltaethiron: yeah.. but kpersonalizer keeps springing up each time i start kde
[05:45] <toliman> Kiongku: open .kderc
[05:45] <swatgoss> some1 want special lesson for french insults ?
[05:45] <Snowmadic> this I have: /dev/fd0        /media/floppy   auto    rw,user,noauto,sync     0       0
[05:46] <maltaethiron> swatgoss: i have this book called merde
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> keleus: I would use march but unless you are going to use apt-build to rebuild everything anything from the repos won't be optimised
[05:46] <maltaethiron> swatgoss: its kicks ass
[05:46] <swatgoss> do u read "Ta mere" from Arthur
[05:46] <maltaethiron> swatgoss: its labeled as "all the stuff you DIDNT learn in french class"
[05:46] <maltaethiron> no
[05:46] <maltaethiron> where are you from swatgoss?
[05:46] <swatgoss> South of france
[05:47] <Kiongku> toliman: .kderc where?
[05:47] <swatgoss> Montpellier
[05:47] <maltaethiron> ah nice, im just some kid from america that took french in school
[05:47] <Kiongku> i'm from ile de france or the former ile de france :p
[05:47] <toliman> in 90% of cases, custom cflags dont add performance benefits. however, you have to spend a lot of time (installing gentoo for instance) to find this out.
[05:47] <syntaxx> i wonder whats wrong in tvtime sound in debian it works fine but when i shift to ubuntu my sound not working properly anyone who can help me?
[05:48] <keleus> h3sp4wn, well the few things im going to build are going to be CPU intensive...
[05:48] <maltaethiron> thats cool that you folks are from france
[05:48] <toliman> Kiongku: check ~/.kderc or ~/.kde/Autostart/
[05:48] <toliman> places in ~/.kde/ might help
[05:48] <Snowmadic> montpellier, VT?
[05:48] <Kiongku> toliman ~/.kderc does not exist and there's no script in Autostart
[05:48] <h3sp4wn> keleus: Are they already in the repositories ? (if they are you can optimise with apt-build)
[05:48] <Hawkwind> VT = Vermont
[05:48] <swatgoss> how to use more than 5 partitions in ubiquity ? (Kubuntu live CD installer)
[05:48] <maltaethiron> VT = ?
[05:49] <maltaethiron> ah
[05:49] <h3sp4wn> keleus: Or if they are in debian sid or edgy you can also use apt-build and backport
[05:49] <maltaethiron> here comes hawkwind to save the day
[05:49] <Snowmadic> vermont, yes.  that's what I was asking.
[05:49] <Kiongku> haha
[05:49] <keleus> h3sp4wn, nope, not in the repos (too recent)
[05:49] <Kiongku> BRB.. going to restart to check if that f****ing kpersonalizer keeps showing his nose
[05:49] <h3sp4wn> keleus: even not in debian unstable/experimental ?
[05:49] <toliman> umm ... kde does stuff ... by tiself all the time
[05:49] <maltaethiron> good luck kiongku
[05:50] <Snowmadic> *ponder* no suggestions on the fstab thing then?
[05:50] <syanures> forgot to say hi.
[05:50] <syanures> hi all
[05:50] <Snowmadic> greetings syanures
[05:51] <keleus> h3sp4wn, checking
[05:51] <keleus> h3sp4wn, yep, its in the repos. just download the .deb and use dpkg? ( i dont want to have the whole debian tree in my repos )
[05:52] <h3sp4wn> keleus: no add the deb-src line and use apt-build to optimise it
[05:52] <Dani> chat zilla doesn't have spyware right
[05:53] <keleus> h3sp4wn, i dont feel like doing that really..
[05:53] <DFM> not that I am aware of. just download the extension through your firefox browser
[05:53] <Danish> cool thankx dfm
[05:53] <keleus> h3sp4wn, but i may do that all later...
[05:53] <DFM> np
[05:53] <Danish> it chatzilla feels a little slow
[05:53] <Snowmadic> argh.  what's the point of an "auto" option if you still get told to specify the type?
[05:54] <h3sp4wn> keleus: If you just force install those deb's you will probably have problems
[05:54] <toliman> Dani: you never know unless you read all the source code... but no. no spyware.
[05:54] <DFM> I only use cz when I am on my win system and it seems to take awhile to log in to a channel but after that it's fine
[05:54] <Dani> thankx
[05:54] <DFM> no probs ever with anything related to forefox, as of yet anyway
[05:54] <toliman> use merk. thats what its there for. the login time is usually the server getting to know you
[05:55] <Dani> how do i add to favorites on chatzilla
[05:55] <Danish> nvm got it
[05:55] <Danish> i selected open this channel at startup
[05:56] <DFM> that's what I did since I only use a few channels
[05:56] <keleus> h3sp4wn, if i do then i will just build them myself :) i was halfway done before i stopped to pursue this :)
[05:56] <Danish> i am gonna be on kubuntu channel for quite a while i fell in love with linux b/c of BASH its so powerful
[05:57] <kyle_> toliman i tried sudo dpkg -i sharpmusique_1.0-1_i386.deb and it wont work
[05:57] <Danish> i ultimately want to build using linux from scratch as guide A FLAVOR for developing C++ apps
[05:58] <farous> kyle_: did you look for sharpmusique in the repos
[05:58] <toliman> Danish: if you want to do the whole LFS thing, you can also start with gentoo
[05:58] <Danish> which one is better btwn debian and gentoo
[05:59] <Danish> i heard gentoo is extremely stable
[05:59] <kyle_> yea i did
[05:59] <keleus> h3sp4wn, as you expected - they didnt like my glibc version (oh well, it compiles fine)
[05:59] <toliman> or, if you really want to learn, delete a whole bunch of random files in /lib/ and then get the system working again without using a package manager
[05:59] <swatgoss> !sharpmusique
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sharpmusique - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <farous> !find sharpmusique
[05:59] <ubotu> No packages matching 'sharpmusique' could be found
[05:59] <swatgoss> !info sharpmusique
[05:59] <ubotu> Package sharpmusique does not exist in dapper
[05:59] <kyle_> farous what?
[05:59] <farous> ok i have it then from a non official repos
[05:59] <kyle_> i know it's a deb package
[06:00] <kyle_> how did u install it using dpkg?
[06:00] <Danish> dang the vmware installing is takin' it sweet time
[06:00] <toliman> danish: gentoo recompiles source files for installing apps. the time taken to install is exponentially longer for any app.
[06:00] <poningru> dpkg -i
[06:00] <poningru> kyle_: ^^
[06:00] <kyle_> ok so i do 'dpkg -i lalala.deb'  ??
[06:01] <toliman> however, the benefit is that all the code is secure, optimised for the system, and is cleaner in some ways. however, you probably wont notice the difference unless you are watching a clock
[06:01] <h3sp4wn> using the ~x86 package mask gentoo can be pretty difficult keep working properly and the stable package mask is probably older apps than dapepr
[06:01] <h3sp4wn> *dapper
[06:01] <farous> kyle_: i did have it a while ago did not like it so i just removed it. normally i look for a bin package before i look for the deb one for testing
[06:01] <toliman> i would disavow ppl using ~x86 on gentoo. too much breaks
[06:01] <toliman> package masking is fine
[06:01] <Danish> toliman: i am a beginner rigth now but thankx for the tips
[06:01] <kyle_> farous which alternatives are there?
[06:02] <toliman> compared to debian, masking unstable packages is much much better than waiting 6 months for an app to be comsidered 'acceptably stable'
[06:02] <farous> kyle_: give me the site for i said it was a while ago and i hated it. every music i searched for was for a fee nothing free at all
[06:02] <Shan_> boot sector problems.. windows gives a stop error... problrem  with grub?
[06:02] <farous> kyle_: now i use itunes on wine
[06:02] <kyle_> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[06:02] <kyle_> good one
[06:03] <kyle_> did u install quicktime with it?
[06:03] <Shan_> anyone
[06:03] <toliman> if grub has badly installed to the MBR, you can do 2 things
[06:03] <Shan_> ?
[06:03] <farous> kyle_: yes i have it here
[06:03] <farous> an older ver though for only used it to access stanford publick lect
[06:03] <Shan_> toliman, i dont know if its grub that is the problem.. it worked well before.. the problem started yesterday
[06:04] <toliman> 1, fix the MBR using a windows boot disk in recovery console mode and typing fixmbr, 2 install grub manually using a linux giude to help out
[06:04] <Shan_> can I remove grub and install lilo?
[06:04] <Shan_> i prefer the gui
[06:04] <swatgoss> toliman or sometimes ... just booting on XP installation CD works :p
[06:05] <swatgoss> toliman for NTLDR it works in most case
[06:05] <kyle_> farous here it is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:05] <Shan_> can I?
[06:06] <swatgoss> try the XP cd boot ?, its free :p
[06:06] <Shan_> lol i lost the cd
[06:06] <swatgoss> only takes about 5 mins
[06:06] <Shan_> :/
[06:06] <swatgoss> lost and no images to burn ?
[06:06] <farous> kyle_: i think i went for the tar.gz
[06:06] <Shan_> thats right
[06:06] <Shan_> i figured once i had kubutnu.. why'd I need windblows?
[06:06] <swatgoss> ... try to "get" one :p
[06:06] <Shan_> hehehe
[06:06] <farous> kyle_: unpack it in a local dir. press the prog to run it then if you like it you might install it later
[06:07] <Snowmadic> feh.  baclk.  my appologies to anyone who replied, I missed it.
[06:07] <Shan_> too big a d/l
[06:07] <Shan_> ?
[06:07] <Shan_> wouldnt reinstalling grub or lilo work too?
[06:07] <swatgoss> Shan_ i killed 4 HDD with linux install ...
[06:07] <swatgoss> oh
[06:07] <swatgoss> yeah it will work :p
[06:07] <Shan_> rofl
[06:07] <Danish> toliman how do i make the windwos xp default boot option instead kubuntu
[06:07] <Snowmadic> how do you kill a hdd installing an OS?
[06:07] <Shan_> yeah how?
[06:07] <toliman> danish: edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf
[06:08] <Snowmadic> I've had some completely fubar installs, but have always been able to wipe the drive and recover.
[06:08] <kyle_> farous i got wine but didnt' even think about itunes in linux what was it that you didn't like in sharpmusique as opposed to itunes?
[06:08] <swatgoss> power shutdown during MBR writing ?
[06:08] <Shan_> i killed mine when i dropped it from the 3rd floor balcony
[06:08] <toliman> change the default option in the config
[06:08] <swatgoss> killed ... softwarely killed :p
[06:08] <Snowmadic> swatgoss that should still be recoverable.
[06:08] <swatgoss> i recovered them all :p
[06:08] <Danish> toliman thx
[06:08] <toliman> sometimes grub installs to the partition instead of the MBR. can happen.
[06:08] <osiris> !restricted formats > osiris
[06:09] <toliman> screws up bootable paritions
[06:09] <Shan_> so.... coming back ...lol
[06:09] <Snowmadic> that's what's annoying me atm.  I've done that and gotten back form it, but getting this stupid file off this floppy for work is DRIVING ME MAD
[06:09] <Shan_> how do I overwrite grub with lilo?
[06:09] <swatgoss> uninstall and reinstall ?
[06:09] <swatgoss> or just reinstall ...
[06:09] <Shan_> oh
[06:09] <Shan_> apt-get should work?
[06:09] <toliman> Shan, remove grub files. install lilo files, add lilo to MBR of hdd
[06:09] <swatgoss> reinstall should rewrite everything
[06:10] <swatgoss> u can boot without grub ???
[06:10] <Danish> ok i installed the vmware server what do i do now to boot kubuntu
[06:10] <Shan_> toliman, is there a lin somewhere that explains how?>
[06:10] <Shan_> <--- nooob
[06:10] <toliman> if youre very lucky, lilo will actually boot a 2.6 kernel with initrd ... very very lucky
[06:10] <toliman> Shan_:  man lilo
[06:10] <Shan_> No manual entry for lilo
[06:10] <Danish> nvm
[06:11] <swatgoss> source.lst time :p
[06:11] <Shan_> hehe
[06:11] <Snowmadic> ok, getting the same error now when I use fdformat on a disk and try to mount that.
[06:11] <Snowmadic> suggestions folks?
[06:11] <toliman> Shan_:  be aware, pre-packaged kernels need initrd images to load modules beofre the kernel starts, etc. lilo needs to be configured properly is all
[06:11] <Snowmadic> has my fdd died?
[06:11] <Snowmadic> or am I just missing something stupid? :P
[06:11] <Shan_> toliman, well.. thats why i need a how to on this
[06:11] <Shan_> to avoid screw ups
[06:11] <stray77> snowmadic, is your floppy drive 10yrs old like mine is?
[06:12] <Snowmadic> stray77: nope. 1.5
[06:12] <Shan_> hmm.. apt-get goes for the cd
[06:12] <Crell42> Hey folks.  Is it possible to do a command line install from a Kubuntu Dapper CD?
[06:12] <toliman> Shan_ better the devil you know. you can set grub to display different screens tho
[06:12] <Crell42> The graphical installer keeps locking up for me, so I want to try the command line version.
[06:13] <swatgoss> Crell42 from live cd system ?
[06:13] <Crell42> swatgoss: Yes.
[06:13] <Shan_> hows that
[06:13] <swatgoss> Crell42 i don't think u can install anything from cd to live session ... i can be wrong
[06:13] <swatgoss> and moreover on HDD
[06:13] <Shan_> how do i normally fix a bad boot sector
[06:14] <Shan_> w/o the cd
[06:14] <Shan_> lol
[06:14] <swatgoss> Acronis disk directorsuite ?
[06:14] <Crell42> I tried installing the Ubuntu server and then apt-getting kubuntu-desktop, but I think the kernel for that doesn't have the madwifi driver.
[06:14] <swatgoss> bootable CD of Acronis manager :p
[06:14] <Crell42> swatgoss: Um, as of Dapper the live cd and install cd are merged.
[06:14] <swatgoss> Crell42 i know but u can't install a prog on a live session i think
[06:15] <swatgoss> Crell42 form the cd u booted on
[06:15] <Crell42> swatgoss: Have you used Dapper yet?
[06:15] <swatgoss> yeah
[06:15] <Crell42> The live cd is the install cd.
[06:15] <Crell42> But it's a GUI installer.
[06:15] <swatgoss> i didnt managed to create fstab on the live session
[06:15] <Crell42> I want to use a CLI installer instead.
[06:16] <swatgoss> use the server CD ?
[06:16] <Snowmadic> ok, mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy should work, yes?
[06:16] <swatgoss> server CD is in command line ?
[06:16] <Crell42> Doesn't have a wifi driver in its kernel.  That's what I did first.
[06:16] <Crell42> Yes.
[06:16] <Shan_> yeah
[06:16] <Snowmadic> *bangs head on desk*
[06:16] <Shan_> whats the error?
[06:16] <Snowmadic> "You must specify the filesystem type"
[06:16] <Shan_> format it then
[06:17] <Shan_> try again
[06:17] <swatgoss> u can enter a parameter before booting the live session, F6 or F7 as i remember
[06:17] <swatgoss> but i don't know the parameter ...
[06:17] <toliman> installing lilo onto ubuntu -- http://bin-false.org/?p=17
[06:17] <Snowmadic> Shan_: did
[06:17] <Snowmadic> same
[06:18] <Shan_> did it format it? thern thertes nothing wrong with the drive
[06:18] <Snowmadic> or rather, got another floppy, formatted that (fdformat) and tried that.
[06:18] <Snowmadic> the file is fine, the other disc formatted, and the 2nd disk reads fine in my other linux box.
[06:18] <Snowmadic> so the drive at least _creates_ usable floppies
[06:18] <Shan_> press tab after tryping "fd" sometimes it assins dif nmukmbers
[06:18] <Shan_> numbers
[06:18] <Snowmadic> fd0 works to format, though
[06:19] <Shan_> hmm
[06:19] <Snowmadic> and the formatted disks mount fine using the same fstab line on my other box :P
[06:19] <Snowmadic> see my confusion? :|
[06:19] <Shan_> wtf
[06:19] <toliman> Crell42: i paritioned using disk director myself, and used text install to install ubuntu. no real issues.
[06:20] <Shan_> Snowmadic, do a google lol
[06:20] <Snowmadic> Shan_: thanks :P  been there, tried that.  this is kinda anoying me :P
[06:20] <toliman> if you mount a floppy, sometimes you need to explicitly use FAT
[06:20] <Snowmadic> thinking about sending the floppy back and insisting that they use usb keys ;)
[06:20] <toliman> its so arcane
[06:21] <Snowmadic> toliman: a la mount -t FAT /dev/fd0 /mount/floppy ?
[06:21] <toliman> "email me a boot disc"
[06:21] <Crell42> swatgoss: It doesn't seem to have an option from F6 to do a CLI install.
[06:21] <toliman> ye
[06:21] <toliman> you can make a usb key bootable
[06:21] <toliman> :P
[06:21] <swatgoss> Crell42 hummm
[06:21] <Snowmadic> I know..
[06:21] <Snowmadic> this is just for file transfer.
[06:21] <Snowmadic> the machine it's coming off doesn't have a usb port :(
[06:21] <Snowmadic> it's _OLD_
[06:21] <Snowmadic> legacy system.
[06:22] <cozomo> hay guys, how do I install an audio device? I get this when I try to play .avi's via MPlayer: [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[06:22] <toliman> cozomo: dont use oss. use alsa or esd
[06:22] <swatgoss> Crell42 can't u install from a server CD and install a kernel with wifi ?
[06:22] <cozomo> toliman: how do I reconfigure?
[06:22] <toliman> you need an audio output that mixes
[06:22] <Crell42> I'd have to get a kernel with wifi that I can install.
[06:23] <toliman> mplayer -ao=alsa
[06:23] <toliman> edit ~/.mplayer/config
[06:23] <toliman> or just edit kmplayer / gmplayer
[06:23] <unix_infidel> hey guys for some reason my sleep button in KUbuntu isnt working with my thinkpad whereas in breezy it worked fine.
[06:23] <Shan_> wtf i cannot remove grub using Synaptic.. it asks for the CD?
[06:24] <unix_infidel> regular acpi stuff still works like cpufreq and screen off.
[06:24] <keleus> ok, amarok still says libvisual is not installed or no plugins installed, even though i have tried libvisual-0.2.0 and libvisual 0.2.0-plugins from the repo. Failing still, i removed those and built/installed from source 0.4.0
[06:24] <keleus> STILL wont work
[06:24] <cozomo> thanks toliman
[06:24] <swatgoss> Shan_ how did u managed to boot on a system without MBR/grub ?
[06:24] <toliman> it might be called Advanced Linux Sound Arch
[06:24] <toliman> which is ALSA
[06:24] <toliman> sic
[06:25] <Shan_> swatgoss, its there.. but it wont boot in windows... it gives a stop error and reboots (which i ma assumin is a bad boot sector problem) so i want to resolve that
[06:25] <Snowmadic> *ponder*
[06:25] <Snowmadic> do I dare?  serial -> usb dongle -> usb drive? :P
[06:25] <keleus> WTF
[06:25] <toliman> amarok. eevil, so very eevil
[06:25] <Snowmadic> can't work any less than this damned drive is.
[06:25] <keleus> why is amarok looking in /usr/lib/amarok/amarok_libvisual shouldn't it be looking in /usr/lib/libvisual?
[06:25] <keleus> arg! symlink time
[06:26] <toliman> legacy file transfer ... hmm. network, serial, parallel cables.
[06:26] <swatgoss> Shan_ do u modofied menu.lst or any file of this kind ?
[06:26] <toliman> network preferably
[06:26] <Shan_> not that i recollet swatgoss
[06:26] <swatgoss> recollet ? typo or real word :p ?
[06:26] <toliman> perhaps its french
[06:27] <swatgoss> recoller ?
[06:27] <swatgoss> ou rigoler ?
[06:27] <toliman> silent l's, r's, c's
[06:27] <swatgoss> chuis largu la :/
[06:28] <Shan_> recollect
[06:28] <Shan_> lol
[06:28] <toliman> some vague moaning of vowels, im sure it will be comprehended
[06:28] <Shan_> its recollect ok!
[06:28] <Shan_> lol
[06:28] <swatgoss> ... if u say so :p
[06:28] <Shan_> hehe
[06:28] <toliman> oui
[06:28] <Shan_> i insist!
[06:28] <swatgoss> i think my brain (ou ce qu'il en reste) need some sleep ...
[06:28] <h3sp4wn> keleus: If you were building the new amarok kubuntu.org has packages of it already
[06:29] <Ademan> does wine have a support channel?
[06:29] <kyle_> has anyone installed itunes using wine???
[06:29] <swatgoss> either with recollect i don't understand :/
[06:29] <swatgoss> 6:30am ... time to go back IRL
[06:29] <Shan_> lol
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> Ademan: #winehq (I think its a development channel though)
[06:30] <Shan_> you asked me if I modified a file swatgoss
[06:30] <swatgoss> and u didn't ?
[06:30] <Shan_> so i said not that I recollect(remmeber)
[06:30] <Shan_> nope
[06:30] <swatgoss> ok
[06:30] <Ademan> h3sp4wn: thanks i guess if nothing else they might be able to direct me to a support channel
[06:30] <swatgoss> les voiles d'ombres s'claircissent !
[06:30] <swatgoss> +
[06:31] <Shan_> :/
[06:31] <Kiongku> darn.. ppl its annoying.. kpersonalizer just keeps opening at new session..
[06:31] <h3sp4wn> Ademan: They will help you but expect you to have read the documentation
[06:31] <Kiongku> and i cant find the config files or kdestart itself -_-
[06:31] <swatgoss> if u need me nudge me :p
[06:32] <Shan_> heh
[06:32] <Shan_> k
[06:32] <Shan_> anyways i'm off to work
[06:32] <Shan_> lata
[06:32] <Ademan> h3sp4wn: damn, i'm illiterate :-p
[06:33] <Ademan> and i do have a nasty tendancy to ask first before looking things up
[06:33] <Ademan> :-(
[06:33] <h3sp4wn> Ademan: Expect to be flamed then
[06:33] <Hawkwind> LOL
[06:34] <Hawkwind> If you refuse to help yourself and read a bit when it comes to linux, it makes it very difficult to get help most of the time
[06:34] <Healot> hey kubuntuans
[06:35] <keleus> Help! /usr/lib/amarok/amarok_libvisual is missing
[06:37] <keleus> Anyone have a good replacement for Adept? thing is useless...
[06:37] <Hawkwind> keleus: apt-get from the command line
[06:37] <h3sp4wn> keleus: aptitude
[06:37] <keleus> Hawkwind, something that isnt impossible to find things in
[06:37] <keleus> h3sp4wn, same response as too Hawkwind
[06:37] <Hawkwind> keleus: apt-get from CLI
[06:37] <Hawkwind> keleus: Learn to use what works
[06:38] <h3sp4wn> sudo aptitude (gui - works better than anything else)
[06:38] <Hawkwind> keleus: Might try reading the docs on it too.  It has tons of commands to do anything you want
[06:38] <Hawkwind> LOL @ gui works better than anything
[06:38] <keleus> h3sp4wn, the searching in aptitude doesn't work well
[06:38] <Hawkwind> keleus: apt-cache search works beautifully
[06:38] <h3sp4wn> aptitude with its gui and cli modes is superior to apt-get
[06:39] <h3sp4wn>  /apt-cache
[06:39] <keleus> Hawkwind, tell me how to search for packeges AND tell me their status... apt-cache search only gives me a mess of stuff that may or may not be already present
[06:39] <h3sp4wn> keleus: aptitude search appname~i
[06:39] <Hawkwind> I hate GUI package managers.  They never seem to do everything that a package manager from the command line can do.  That's in every distro I've ever tried
[06:39] <Hawkwind> keleus: apt-cache policy, apt-cache madison  Also, try reading the docs
[06:40] <keleus> i would be back in gentoo if the damn thing would come with madwifi (ubuntu does, dont understand why its not part of the default gentoo kernel)
[06:40] <h3sp4wn> building madwifi is not difficult
[06:40] <keleus> if i need to study pages of docs to show me what packeged match a pattern, and whether they are installed or not, then im not using that tool
[06:40] <keleus> h3sp4wn, it is when you are networkless
[06:41] <kyle_> helooooooo
[06:41] <kyle_> i can't run itunes in wine anybody have ideas?
[06:41] <h3sp4wn> keleus: so download the source first onto a usb keychain
[06:42] <FearMoth> I'm trying to install Kubuntu Dapper on my iMac g3, and when I boot from the cd with "live" or "liveppc" it runs through loading up with the kubuntu logo, and then after a while it stops with "restarting system logger       [fail] " or something along those lines and freezes.. anyone know why it does this?
[06:42] <Hawkwind> keleus: If you refuse to read when it comes to Linux, chances are you won't get help from majority of the IRC users.  You gotta help yourself before others will help you
[06:43] <cozomo> sup pedro_
[06:43] <keleus> Hawkwind, im only complaining because something so necessary is not straightforward
[06:43] <h3sp4wn> keleus: If you just learn the aptitude search regexps (takes maybe 5/10 mins) then that is all you need
[06:44] <Hawkwind> keleus: Most things in Linux aren't.  Learn to read docs and teach yourself before complaining
[06:44] <keleus> Hawkwind, i printed (and read) the freebsd 6.1 handbook. im not adverse to docs.
[06:44] <keleus> h3sp4wn, any resources for learnign regexp? those make my brain hurt.
[06:45] <Healot> like \d{1,12}\.\d{2}?
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> keleus: http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/ch02s03.html (that is all you need for basic searching)
[06:47] <Healot> panic manic, split
[06:48] <unix_infidel> hey guys i'm having trouble getting Fn+F4 buttons to work on my thinkpad (which enables standby mode) it worked fine on breezy but ever since this upgrade i've been having this one problem.
[06:51] <[Relic] > where's the grub info stored?
[06:52] <jontec> how can I unmount the floppy from inside Konsole?
[06:52] <DFM> fearmoth, do you have the version for a mac?
[06:52] <Healot> .. /boot/grub/menu.lst << the grub menu
[06:56] <rOOb> hello all im wondering if someone could help me figure out a: how to hook my camcorder up b: captureing video from the camcorder when i plug my camcorder in i dmesg says this : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/58
[06:58] <rOOb> i tried to use win xp in a vm with vmware....and it wokred but the video came out very choppy and low quality,,,,,so im hoping i can be able to import videos in linux
[06:58] <unix_infidel> anyone for my acpi question?
[07:07] <ballchalk> hello
[07:12] <Kiongku> yo.. silent
[07:12] <Jucato>  O_o
[07:12] <rouge8> O.O
[07:12] <Jucato>  ^_^
[07:12] <Kiongku> lol?
[07:12] <Kiongku> hi Jucato
[07:12] <Jucato> hehehe! silent because... um... nothing to talk about? ehehe
[07:12] <Jucato> hi Kiongku! how's prozilla doing?
[07:13] <Kiongku> damn kpersonalizer gaves me headaches since morning.. and i went the pc to find startkde
[07:13] <Kiongku> Jucato: fine very good
[07:13] <Kiongku> *went all ove the pc
[07:13] <Jucato> you got hit by the kpersonalizer KDE 3.5.4 bug eh?
[07:13] <Kiongku> ya hit very hard
[07:13] <Kiongku> did u get it?
[07:14] <Jucato> i was lucky enough to have dodged it :-D
[07:14] <Kiongku> how?
[07:14] <Jucato> i don't know. KPersonalizer was never installed during the upgrade
[07:14] <Kiongku> ah lol..
[07:14] <Kiongku> i dutn give a damn to kpersonalizer.. it does nothign great anyway that cant be solved in kcontrol
[07:15] <Jucato> I did get hit by a more annoying bug... you're lucky it's easy to fix that KPersonalizer thingy
[07:15] <Kiongku> lol what bug?
[07:15] <Jucato> the media:/ HAL bug
[07:15] <Kiongku> send me a link i see what it talks about
[07:15] <Jucato> I don't know if it was reported already
[07:16] <Jucato> but it was confirmed by one of the Kubuntu devs here
[07:16] <Jucato> (I won't mention the name so as not to bother him...)
[07:16] <Jucato> btw, KPersonalizer is great when you want to tone down the eye-candy stuff, and you don't want to go all around KControl to set them
[07:17] <Jucato> specially if you don't know which ones to change
[07:17] <ibert> hi! Anybody knows a simple CAD Application in the ubuntu universe?
[07:17] <rouge8> Jucato: what's the HAL bug?
[07:17] <Kiongku> Jucato: there is kpersonalizer command :P.. i dutn want it to start up each time lol
[07:17] <Jucato> partitions that are not mounted during startup do not appear in media:/
[07:18] <Kiongku> Jucato: then what does HAL means o0
[07:18] <Jucato> they still don't appear even if you mount them, as long as they were not mounted during startup
[07:18] <rouge8> I wonder if that has anything to do with my poor SD card reader not working
[07:18] <rouge8> it used to work with breezy and fedora core 4, but that was also with a different mobo
[07:18] <Kiongku> Jucato: ahh freaking prob