[12:00] <marska> Ga'h
[12:00] <hondje> :)
[12:00] <marska> They need better names for their programs.. How about Web Surfer
[12:00] <egon_spengler> marska, Try icewm, windowmaker
[12:00] <shinu> how slow can it be... 0.o my p266 had xfce and it ran *fine* :)
[12:00] <Auxin> back..
[12:01] <marska> Shinu: Everything just.. Lags.
[12:01] <hondje> enlightenment is my choice for slower computers
[12:01] <Auxin> anyone here who uses mythtv with breezy?
[12:01] <marska> Shinu: Whats odd, is that the speed between Gnome and XFCE seems about the same
[12:01] <Rev-Marc> grettinngs all
[12:01] <hondje> But I also think Rasterman is a prophet
[12:01] <marska> Its weird
[12:01] <shinu> Madpilot: but it shouldnt be even readable should it?
[12:01] <marska> Hondje: You know Jesus was just an Open Religion advocate?
[12:01] <shinu> marska: text login?
[12:01] <Auxin> the question is .. there are all packages for myth-tv in synaptic.. if i install them.. will mythtv work?
[12:01] <bluefoxicy> marska:  you're probably more low on ram than CPU
[12:01] <Madpilot> shinu: there's no harm in having that stuff readable; you will have to use sudo to modify anything
[12:01] <shorty114> is there an apt package for azureus?
[12:02] <hondje> Who's that?
[12:02] <marska> Blue: I'm running 256 megs
[12:02] <hondje> Does he hang out with Stallman?
[12:02] <burner> shorty114, not in ubuntu :\
[12:02] <Draucon> q time
[12:02] <Auxin> shorty114, y u need azureus?
[12:02] <nalioth> shorty114: yes, but it's better to get it from azureus.sourceforge.net
[12:02] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  there's plenty of harm in knowing what root may be doing
[12:02] <marska> Shinu: Think its GDM?
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> Auxin,  i think ya got todo a little tweaking and run the mythsetup program as well.
[12:02] <ompaul>  offtopic for long conversations
[12:02] <shinu> marska: can i view others people's home folder though?
[12:02] <Rev-Marc> I have suceeded in installing "gsynaptics" the package handler sayes it is install but I can not find it any help is grfeatly appreciated
[12:02] <shorty114> nalioth, k, thanks.
[12:02] <RockyBurt> hm, as of the last few days... if i go in to change my icons in my theme, it doesn't work until i log back into gnome ... anyone know what might be going on?
[12:02] <shinu> marska: i had text login ^^
[12:02] <Auxin> Dr_Willis, a howto somewhere? maybe..
[12:02] <spider_> okay, new question:  what do i use to backup my /home to (multiple) cds?
[12:02] <hondje> RockyBurt: bad things?
[12:02] <marska> Shinu: What?
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> Auxin,  no idea - check the wikis and forums.. then the mythtv homepage :P
[12:02] <RockyBurt> hondje: it was working just a few days ago :(
[12:02] <Auxin> k .. thx Dr_Willis ;)
[12:02] <marska> Shinu: Text login? I'd like to use a dm
[12:03] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  what if someone as root puts in some command like smbclient with -p (password) on the command line?
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> dm's are for sissies. :P
[12:03] <marska> Shinu: Firefox, emacs and everything else lags though
[12:03] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot: or smbmount more likely :)
[12:03] <hondje> RockyBurt: still working for me, that's rather odd
[12:03] <marska> XFCE doesn't seem to speed anything up
[12:03] <marska> I don't know..
[12:03] <shinu> marska: erm... xdm maybe... but without a dm its hell of a lot quicker imho
[12:03] <marska> Maybe I should just install Windows
[12:03] <shinu> no~
[12:03] <boxerboy29> rev-marc in terminal try typing "gsynaptics" without quotes see if it brings it up
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> BeOs :P
[12:03] <hondje> RockyBurt: are you switching to icons you installed personally, or ones you apt-get'd
[12:03] <Rev-Marc> will try
[12:03] <marska> Shinu: I tried xdm with Ubuntu  just drops me to the console
[12:04] <haasteem> hi, is anyone using zina as graphical interface for their mp3 collection?
[12:04] <shinu> Dr_Willis: i tried that once... didnt recognize my graphic card so it was b&w x)
[12:04] <hondje> RockyBurt: if it's ones you picked up, maybe check the permissions on ~.icons, that's all I can think of
[12:04] <RockyBurt> hondje: installed personally (in $HOME/.Icons)
[12:04] <shinu> marska: unsexy :/
[12:04] <hondje> lol
[12:04] <marska> Shinu: Can you have multiple users through text login?
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> shinu,  but it was a fast and pretty B/W :P
[12:04] <hondje> Then got me beat ;-)
[12:04] <Rev-Marc> command not found
[12:04] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: I think shinu was talking about just being able to look at the root-owned files via Nautilus, not anything more complex
[12:04] <nalioth> marska: yes
[12:04] <shinu> Dr_Willis: hehe x)
[12:04] <marska> nalioth: Could you tell me how to set that up then?
[12:04] <marska> Shinu: What dm are you using now?
[12:05] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  yeah but the default umask is 0022, so you can look inside all root's files too
[12:05] <shinu> marska: as i said im just using text login
[12:05] <haasteem> i'm not sure how to get it to work...
[12:05] <marska> Shinu: Okay.. Okay.. How do you set that up?
[12:05] <anathema_> hey seethru
[12:05] <anathema_> there?
[12:05] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  someone needs to fix the default umask . . . :/
[12:05] <shinu> marska: basically you turn off gdm :)
[12:05] <seethru> anathema_: yep
[12:05] <anathema_> hey go to www.pastebin.com
[12:05] <marska> Anathema: I'm sorry but I can't acknowledge you
[12:05] <hondje> wow, I just broke something
[12:05] <anathema_> i am the top guy
[12:05] <boxerboy29> rev-marc: may i ask what gsynaptic does differently than synaptic?
[12:05] <marska> Shini: And how do I do that without messing up my system?
[12:05] <nalioth> marska: text login works the same as gui login. you put your username and pass in when prompted
[12:06] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: sure, but read-only <shrug>
[12:06] <anathema_> see me on the list there seethru ?
[12:06] <anathema_> i cant find the url in lynx
[12:06] <Rev-Marc> I was told to use it to turn off touchpad I am new on Linux
[12:06] <seethru> anathema_: hold on I'll look
[12:06] <shinu> Madpilot: am i able to look at other people's home folder though? (never tried, i only have one user + root :P)
[12:07] <seethru> anathema_: I only see burner as the most recent
[12:07] <marska> nalioth: Sessions work the same way as well?
[12:07] <anathema_> damnit
[12:07] <anathema_> uhh
[12:07] <normal1_> hey can someone help me out
[12:07] <marska> Shinu: How do you turn off GDM?
[12:07] <anathema_> damn how do i get the link in lynx
[12:07] <anathema_> haha
[12:07] <nalioth> marska: /msg ubotu bum
[12:07] <boxerboy29> oh ok not having a laptop with linux i cant help much i thought it was a version of synaptic sorry sir
[12:07] <normal1_> does anyone else have proablem downloading from the backports rep
[12:07] <marska> Nalioth: What?
[12:07] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  so what if I have something like "login_to_ftp --password secure1" in /root/.bash_history ?
[12:07] <nalioth> normal1_: mirrormax is no longer up.
[12:08] <shinu> was about to recommend sysv-rc-conf
[12:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell normal1_ about backports
[12:08] <shinu> bum looks nice
[12:08] <nalioth> marska: type /msg ubotu bum
[12:08] <shinu> that was weird x)
[12:08] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  or some console ftp program (gftp comes to mind) stores your passwords plaintext with current umask (gftp comes to mind)
[12:08] <Hikaru79> I'm trying to dual-boot with Hoary and Windows XP. My menu.lst is set up correctly. My /dev/hdb1 (winxp partition) is mountable and readable, so I'm pretty sure its not corrupted. however, when I try to boot it from grub, it gives a bunch of illegible characters as an error then just hangs. Anyone encountered this before?
[12:08] <normal1_> thanks man
[12:08] <normal1_> =)
[12:08] <marska> Normall_: My only complaint is that the packages seem to be outdated already
[12:08] <normal1_> really =\
[12:08] <normal1_> better than just getting error
[12:08] <marska> nalioth: That doesn't retrun anything.. Just makes ubotu say bum
[12:08] <nalioth> marska: backports is not up for breezy
[12:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell marska about bum
[12:08] <marska> return
[12:08] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: good points; I'd forgotten that FTP and some other protocols still store passwords as plaintext...
[12:09] <nalioth> marska: you should identify yourself to services
[12:09] <marska> nalioth: Thank you
[12:09] <shinu> anyone can tell me if i can view other users' home folder?
[12:09] <Bateau_> isnt php suposed to be in /var/local/php ? and if its not there... where is it?
[12:09] <marska> Nalioth: Any idea when backports will be up for breezy? A few programs seem outdated...
[12:09] <normal1_> so hows ubuntu doing in the linux world ?
[12:09] <nalioth> marska: normal1_: many service await those who are registered on freenode
[12:09] <normal1_> i really havn't checked
[12:09] <normal1_> cool
[12:09] <Madpilot> does anyone here run Folding@Home in Ubuntu?
[12:10] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  more basically, does anyone NEED read access to /root?  :P
[12:10] <normal1_> is ubuntu climbing up the latter of distors ?
[12:10] <nalioth> marska: let the devs finish with breezy so they can start on dapper drake (and get some programs backported from it)
[12:10] <marska> Shinu: You use bum?
[12:10] <guest_> hey
[12:10] <marska> Nalioth: So I guess bum is a very lightweight dm?
[12:10] <Madpilot> normal1_: it's been #1 on DistroWatch's list for a while now, whatever that's worth...
[12:10] <tritium> normal1_: where can you go from the top?
[12:10] <shinu> marska: nope but that program looks nice so use it ^^
[12:10] <marska> Ga'h
[12:10] <shinu> marska: why?
[12:10] <nalioth> marska: no. its the answer to your gdm question. read the link
[12:11] <marska> nalioth: Oh.. Okay
[12:11] <hyphenated> Hikaru79: can you put your menu.lst into a pastebin (eg: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl )
[12:11] <marska> Shinu: Just that the dm seems to be slowing down my system
[12:11] <Hikaru79> hyphenated, one step ahead of you :) It's right here: http://pastebin.com/388539
[12:11] <shinu> marska: install bum and remove gdm startoff at bootup
[12:11] <Hikaru79> The winxp partition is on /dev/hdb1 so (hd1,0) is correct
[12:11] <marska> And some stupid f*ck is playing madonna
[12:11] <marska> A bit too loud..
[12:12] <shinu> marska: hit him
[12:12] <shinu> shovel!
[12:12] <marska> Gods answer to everything
[12:12] <nalioth> violence in #ubuntu-offtopic please (it has tiled floors)
[12:12] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: it could be limited to read-with-sudo as well as write-with-sudo, I guess...
[12:12] <shinu> sorry
[12:12] <marska> "Oh Lord! What should I do?" God: Bash him in the face with a shovel
[12:12] <tritium> marska: no religion either, please
[12:13] <marska> Sorry
[12:13] <marska> Okay.. I'll do that now
[12:13] <marska> Thanks
[12:13] <Hendric> how can i fix this problem: RPC not registered <-- wen mounting NFS sharing???
[12:13] <hondje> portmap
[12:13] <Hendric> portmap is installed and running
[12:14] <Hikaru79> hyphenated, you still there/ :9
[12:14] <Hikaru79> *? :(
[12:14] <Hendric> this happens when i do a server install.. then adds the NFS portmap packages
[12:14] <Hendric> if i do a normal install.. then this doesn't happen
[12:15] <kemik> Hendric:  add the nfs-packages
[12:15] <Hendric> kemik, everything has been installed.. NFS common, server, PORTMAP
[12:15] <Hendric> and everything is running
[12:15] <kemik> Hendric:  hmmm... that's weird
[12:15] <kemik> Hendric:  and portmap is running ?
[12:16] <Hendric> yeah.. protmap is running
[12:16] <kemik> you got nfs-common on the client aswell ?
[12:16] <Hendric> this only happen when you do a Server install... this does not happen on a normal install.. some kinda bug..
[12:16] <Hendric> kemik, yes.
[12:16] <kemik> sounds weird yeah..
[12:16] <Hikaru79> I'm trying to dual-boot with Hoary and Windows XP. My menu.lst is set up correctly. My /dev/hdb1 (winxp partition) is mountable and readable, so I'm pretty sure its not corrupted. however, when I try to boot it from grub, it gives a bunch of illegible characters as an error then just hangs. Anyone encountered this before?
[12:16] <kemik> nfs-kernel-server ? :/
[12:17] <Hendric> my other 3pcs done with normal install can mount NFS drives... but not for these pcs with "server" install
[12:17] <Hendric> kemik, i have installed that
[12:18] <kemik> file a bug perhaps.. but sounds really unlikely that it would be a bug
[12:18] <kemik> :|
[12:18] <ajeet>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY hello
[12:18] <Hendric> waw
[12:18] <kemik> ajeet:  that's not how you do it ;)
[12:18] <Hendric> watta identify
[12:18] <rerun> hi channel
[12:18] <tristanmike> looks like a new password in your future
[12:18] <kemik> ajeet:  and, erh, change that password ;)
[12:19] <boxerboy29> shouldnt they have those packages in synaptic after normal install?
[12:19] <ajeet> shit, how do I change it?
[12:19] <laserite> hi! does anybody know how can i tell dhclient to log to other file instead of /var/log/syslog?? thnx!
[12:19] <Madpilot> ajeet: /msg NickServ help
[12:19] <tristanmike> ajeet, /msg nickserv help
[12:19] <tristanmike> Madpilot, curses!
[12:19] <rerun> i am working away from home and need a forum link- i am trying to turn off tty3-6, and pie error logs to tty8, but can't remeber the file
[12:20] <slew> what compiler do i need to compile programs? checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:20] <slew> . i installed gcc and cl, but it still wont compile. =[
[12:20] <ajeet> No reply from nickserve?
[12:20] <kemik> slew:  build-essential
[12:20] <rekrutacja> ajeet /msg nickserv help set
[12:20] <slew> thanks
[12:20] <tristanmike> ajeet, no "e" on the end
[12:21] <boxerboy29> nickserv not nickserve
[12:21] <slew> kemik, apt-get build-essential?
[12:21] <Hendric> ajeet, /ns set password <newpassword>
[12:21] <kemik> slew:  yea
[12:21] <Hendric> ajeet, you need to identify first..
[12:21] <olicat> hi all. im using the latest breezy, is anyone else havin problems mounting usb devices?
[12:22] <haasteem> hi, is anyone using zina as graphical interface for their mp3 collection?
[12:22] <Hendric> olicat, there are some issues with usb devices
[12:22] <haasteem> i'm not sure how to get it to work...
[12:22] <boxerboy29> does anyone know if ajeet registered his name before trying that?
[12:22] <slew> kemik, thanks, sending woman over for your oral pleasure..
[12:22] <kemik> slew:  sounds good ;)
[12:22] <tritium> slew: none of that, please
[12:22] <mwright1night> ANyone know what version of oo will be shiped on Oct 13, currently it's an incompatible 1.1.4 which isn't much good
[12:22] <boxerboy29> oo2
[12:22] <olicat> Hendric, do you know if there are any work arounds at the moment?
[12:22] <nalioth> slew: please watch your gift giving
[12:22] <rekrutacja> is there a comprehensive list of new packages introduced in breezy?
[12:22] <mwright1night> it should be worst case 1.1.5 best case 2.0rc2 same build as on the Live CD
[12:22] <ajeet> hello
[12:22] <mwright1night> ie win32 version
[12:22] <kemik> slew:  they're abit stiff in here.. think #ubuntu-offtopic is better for gifts ;)
[12:23] <Hendric> olicat, for webcams there is... for the mysterious synaptic error none
[12:23] <tritium> kemik: nice...
[12:23] <olicat> Hendric, how about usb pens?
[12:23] <slew> nalioth, sorry, a bit of humor went too far. :(
[12:23] <Hendric> olicat, haven't tried
[12:23] <olicat> Hendric, ok thanks, ill keep trying
[12:24] <shinu> marska: any luck? :P
[12:24] <LasseL> after my upgrade it takes ages to log in. nautilus and metacity doesn't the first 3-4 minutes
[12:24] <LasseL> how can I debug that?
[12:24] <fangorious> i have a fat32 file system mounted, but some characters in file/folder names aren't recognized (like spanish accented characters). is there a mount option i can use to fix that?
[12:24] <ubuntu_> Hello all
[12:24] <Hendric> hey, can anyone help me solve this RPC program not registered stuff.. wen mounting nfs drives.. sounds to me a MOUNT error no NFS
[12:24] <tritium> LasseL: there's a current bug that we're experiencing.  Give the devs some time to work it out.
[12:25] <kemik> LasseL:  i'd do a clean breezy install... seems upgrading isnt as painless as one had hoped
[12:25] <Hendric> *not
[12:25] <ubuntu_> I am now running ubuntu live cd only because I think, after two weeks of diddling around with it, that ubuntu is FAR FAR away from a decent OS
[12:25] <ubuntu_>  I use BeOs and found that, even though it was dead in 1999, it is more advanced than ubuntu
[12:26] <ubuntu_>  Sorry guys had to tell someone
[12:26] <Kyral> Here pal you are gonna need it
[12:26] <Hikaru79> I'm trying to dual-boot with Hoary and Windows XP. My menu.lst is set up correctly. My /dev/hdb1 (winxp partition) is mountable and readable, so I'm pretty sure its not corrupted. however, when I try to boot it from grub, it gives a bunch of illegible characters as an error then just hangs. Anyone encountered this before?
[12:26] <kemik> ubuntu_:  #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[12:26] <tritium> ubuntu_: don't apologize.  Few will agree with or believe you
[12:26] <Parisi> What is a good free divx codec?
[12:27] <ubuntu_> vlc has most codecs in it
[12:27] <slew>  Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 1.3.13 gnet-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met... i tried apt-get install gtk+-2.0 but got nothing. where do i get these libs?
[12:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Parisi about w32codecs
[12:27] <kemik> Parisi:  use vlc or get w32codecs
[12:27] <rekrutacja> is beagle desktop dearch included in breezy?
[12:27] <nalioth> slew: look for the ones ending in -dev
[12:27] <rekrutacja> search
[12:27] <Bateau_> isnt php suposed to be in /var/local/php ? and if its not there... where is it?
[12:27] <kemik> slew:  apt-cache search <keyword>
[12:28] <slew> ahh.. is there a site that explains all the apt-xxx options?
[12:28] <Burgundavia> rekrutacja, not by default
[12:28] <boxerboy29> rekrutacja: beagle is not in ubuntu default install you have to get it from synaptic or apt-get install beagle or whatever name it uses
[12:28] <tritium> slew: have you tried the manpage?
[12:28] <tritium> Burgundavia: did you ever get the test email?
[12:28] <rekrutacja> thanks
[12:29] <kemik> slew:  man apt-get
[12:29] <kbrooks> Burgundavia!
[12:29] <boxerboy29> anyone know how i can pull up like the funny man pages i installed before?
[12:29] <Burgundavia> tritium, I got one from robitaille. Turns out gmail was too smart for its own good
[12:29] <kbrooks> that you?
[12:29] <LasseL> ... and did I mention that X freezes with ATi drivers in breezy ?
[12:29] <LasseL> just had to hit the reset button
[12:29] <tritium> Burgundavia: sounds interesting
[12:29] <slew> nothing happens when i try apt-cache search gtk+-2.0 :(
[12:29] <rekrutacja> burgundavia boxerboy29 i was trying to use it on hoary, but couldn't get it running. is it more sable now?
[12:29] <Burgundavia> rekrutacja, yes, considerably
[12:30] <satafterh> is there something similar to bearshare for linux
[12:30] <win> why does ubuntu use a different version system from debian?
[12:30] <boxerboy29> rekrutacja: i had it on suse and i hated it so i didnt bother with it on breezy
[12:30] <Burgundavia> win, what do you mean?
[12:30] <nalioth> satafterh: gtk-gnutella
[12:30] <boxerboy29> win: ubuntu isnt debian its debian based
[12:31] <win> i know
[12:31] <satafterh> i tried gtk-gnutella, found it very slow to download, is there something eles
[12:31] <boxerboy29> if im not mistaken debian uses the 22.4 kernel still
[12:31] <rekrutacja> boxerboy29 desktop search is a mission critical aplication for me: is there anything except beagle what gives me that funcionality?
[12:31] <jintxo> hi guys, anyone experiencing wierd squid errors (mostly when accessing passport.com or hotmail accounts) lately (squid on warty)
[12:31] <boxerboy29> 2.4*
[12:31] <jintxo> ?
[12:31] <nalioth> satafterh: gnut or mutella
[12:31] <win> but if ubuntu use the same version system , it would benefit the whole community
[12:32] <Burgundavia> win, I don't understand what you mean
[12:32] <kemik> boxerboy29:  at least the stablebranch does
[12:32] <nalioth> win: ubuntu and debian. while sharing a source base, are two different animals
[12:32] <HrdwrBob> boxerboy29: stable yes, unstable no
[12:32] <tritium> win: there's no need for it
[12:32] <boxerboy29> no sorry i dont know i dont use desktop search ultilties
[12:32] <satafterh> gnut or mutella whick is better?
[12:32] <boxerboy29> stable=sarge etch is beta still
[12:32] <nalioth> satafterh: use them both. and keep what you like
[12:33] <Burgundavia> rekrutacja, there is a python based beagle, but I have no idea how far along it is
[12:33] <boxerboy29> the point being ubuntu is not debian so things are gonna be different or it would be called debian ubuntu as it is with debian sarge
[12:33] <funkyHat> boxerboy29, you can easily select a 2.6 kernel for debian if you want ;)
[12:34] <funkyHat> but by default, yes, sarge is 2.4
[12:34] <funkyHat> win, debian and ubuntu serve different purposes
[12:34] <boxerboy29> yes that i know
[12:35] <win> well, i download the opera browser with .deb and it does not work with ubuntu, and i find out that ubuntu use different version system which i think is unnessary
[12:35] <feaces> hello all
[12:35] <Madpilot> win: there is a Ubuntu deb for Opera; I'm running it right now.
[12:35] <rekrutacja> burgundavia i will look for it, but i dont like usuing beta software that much...
[12:35] <boxerboy29> it works if you use the ubuntu download for it and follow the install steps 3 times over :) j/k
[12:35] <win> now other developer has to build another package just to provide another distro
[12:35] <shorty114> k i downloaded azureus but it came with this message:
[12:35] <feaces> hey i got the linux vershion of quake 3
[12:35] <Burgundavia> win, read this http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[12:35] <shorty114>  $ ./azureus
[12:35] <shorty114> Starting Azureus...
[12:35] <shorty114> Java exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...
[12:35] <shorty114> ls: /usr/java: No such file or directory
[12:35] <shorty114> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[12:35] <shorty114> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com
[12:35] <Burgundavia> win, specifically, this question --> What about binary compatibility between distributions?
[12:36] <feaces> and i did the sh setup.sh script to install
[12:36] <tritium> win: no, not really
[12:36] <feaces> but it didn't gave me a bunch of errors
[12:36] <nalioth> shorty114: please dont paste in here
[12:36] <feaces> sorry
[12:36] <newob> question - how can you get the kernel sources after the update - can you just go to kernel.org?
[12:37] <nalioth> newob: they are available to you. use synaptic
[12:37] <tritium> newob: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 (on hoary)
[12:37] <win> burgundavia: between which distributions?
[12:37] <tritium> 2.6.12 on breezy
[12:37] <newob> ya im breezy
[12:37] <RockyBurt> hm... when i try using menu's in firefox, the menu starts in an odd place  (see http://users.carterscove.com/~rocky/screenshot.jpg) .. anyone ever had that happen?
[12:37] <newob> it wasnt in the list
[12:37] <Burgundavia> win, between any distro, and internally within Ubuntu
[12:37] <shorty114> is J2SE the same as JRE?
[12:37] <shorty114> i can't find JRE in the sidebar list on java.sun.com
[12:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shorty114 about javadeb
[12:38] <boxerboy29> no not really i think j2se is full package jre is just the run time envornment
[12:38] <tritium> newob: it's there.  apt-cache search linux-source
[12:38] <shorty114> nalioth, it's the J2RE one, right?
[12:39] <newob> so do i just apt-get that?
[12:39] <tritium> newob: yep
[12:39] <ebby> why dont avi's work out of the box in totem ???
[12:39] <nalioth> shorty114: for the runtime, yes
[12:39] <Madpilot> ebby: because someone owns the avi format
[12:39] <shorty114> k thanks
[12:39] <Madpilot> !tell ebby about restricted
[12:40] <ebby> hm I had no idea avi was proprieary
[12:40] <shorty114> ebby, microsoft's great, eh?
[12:40] <frickel> can I change the sources.list enty http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe to http://de.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe ???
[12:40] <ebby> shorty114, lovely ;-)
[12:40] <Madpilot> ebby: check the msg ubotu just sent you, that URL will take you thru installing all the codecs and stuff you need
[12:40] <nalioth> frickel: yes, change hoary to breezy
[12:41] <shorty114> nalioth, i dpkg -i'd the package file, and it went through alright, but when i try to run azureus again, it can't find the java binary
[12:41] <ebby> Madpilot, checking...
[12:41] <cold> hmm
[12:41] <nalioth> shorty114: use synaptic to get rid of all your gnu java stuff
[12:41] <frickel> nalioth so I can change every hoary to breezy? also the hoary-update?
[12:41] <shorty114> k
[12:41] <Se7h> damn i still have my pkg list broken, can anyone help me to fix it ?
[12:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell frickel about upgrade2breezy
[12:41] <cold> doesn't ubuntu have a good library of software dev tools?
[12:41] <cold> does*
[12:42] <nalioth> cold: yes it does. start with build-essential
[12:42] <Burgundavia> cold, anything that is in debian is in Ubuntu, and more
[12:42] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone know of a better cd ripper than sound juicer?  one thta supports CDDB or FreeDB hopefully?
[12:42] <Se7h> cold texteditor is good :P
[12:42] <n0odl3> i need help with playing "restricted formats"
[12:42] <slew> ubuntu hates me. =[ i cant figure out how to install gtk+-2.0
[12:42] <nalioth> FunnyLookinHat: try grip
[12:42] <cold> hmm ok
[12:42] <n0odl3> i went to the page and followed the instructions but for some reason i still cant play mpegs
[12:42] <FunnyLookinHat> nalioth: thanks
[12:42] <kemik> !tell n0odl3 about restricted
[12:42] <cold> thanks guys
[12:42] <cold> I'm going to order the cds
[12:42] <n0odl3> kemik i already went to this page
[12:43] <nalioth> slew: look for the libgtk-bleh"-dev" pkgs
[12:43] <n0odl3> i followed the instructions but it still does not work
[12:43] <boxerboy29> slew try searching for it in synaptic it should be there
[12:43] <slew> i tried looking in synaptic but its not there. =[
[12:43] <frickel> nalioth: I know this page, but this html only tells to change this entry: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[12:44] <shorty114> nalioth, java-common?
[12:44] <nalioth> frickel: every place you see "hoary" change it. dont use backports (they are not up yet for breezy)
[12:44] <shorty114> i searched for "java" and out of the search results, it's the only one that is installed
[12:44] <n0odl3> everytime i run the "apt-get isntall totem-xine gstreamer0.8..." command i get that the package is unavailable
[12:44] <slew> couldnt find package libgtk-2.0
[12:44] <nalioth> shorty114: just remove all java stuff (search in 'pkg names and contents") and reinstall your javadeb
[12:44] <boxerboy29> upgrading to breezy all entries should be changed to breezy with the excetion to the backports they should be taken out if useing the mirrormax backports
[12:45] <frickel> nalioth: what do you mean: no backports?
[12:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell slew about synaptic
[12:45] <n0odl3> does anyone know whats wrong?
[12:45] <boxerboy29> exception even
[12:45] <nalioth> frickel: backports are not out for breezy, yet. having them in your sources.list is useless at this time
[12:45] <Se7h> n0odl3 use synaptic
[12:45] <n0odl3> how do i use synaptic?
[12:46] <n0odl3> how would i go about using it?
[12:46] <Se7h> 'synaptic'
[12:46] <n0odl3> ?
[12:46] <frickel> nalioth: ok, thx nalioth
[12:46] <n0odl3> do i just type it in
[12:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about synaptic
[12:46] <boxerboy29> system-admin-synaptic package manager
[12:46] <Se7h> 'sudo synaptic'
[12:46] <newob> i did sudo apt-get install kernel source - it told me to select one - but there is not one that matches my current one in the list
[12:46] <Se7h> /var/lib/dpkg/info/eclipse-jdt.postrm: line 5: /usr/sbin/update-gcj-classmaps-eclipse: No such file or directory
[12:47] <Se7h> thats whats annoying my mind for days
[12:47] <Se7h> and remove it
[12:47] <Se7h> nor install it
[12:47] <JDigital> Synaptic is available in the System -> Adminstration menu
[12:47] <Se7h> *i cant remove it
[12:47] <shorty114> nalioth, do i want to remove java-common?
[12:47] <RockyBurt> bah, why is it that whenever i open any window it opens maximized?
[12:48] <nalioth> shorty114: yes
[12:48] <shorty114> k
[12:48] <Se7h> does anyone has a good answer for me ?
[12:48] <Bateau_> isnt php suposed to be in /var/local/php ? and if its not there... where is it?
[12:48] <Se7h> (hint)
[12:49] <Maikeru> whereis php
[12:49] <Maikeru> whereis php4
[12:49] <newob> anwer for what ?
[12:49] <Maikeru> whereis php3
[12:49] <newob> answer
[12:49] <Maikeru> w/e it is
[12:49] <n0odl3> wait i got synaptic out but the gstreamer package and the totem package is blocked out
[12:49] <Blejdfist> /usr/bin/php4
[12:49] <frickel> ubotu: tell frickel about synaptic
[12:49] <Se7h> newob for my half-installed eclipse that i cant remove
[12:49] <frickel> hehe, this bot is nice
[12:49] <newob> you did a search in synaptic?
[12:50] <Se7h> newob come again ?
[12:50] <nalioth> frickel: you need to identify to services to use ubotu effectively
[12:50] <newob> did you install it from command line ?
[12:50] <Se7h> newob i've tried all the ways
[12:50] <Se7h> prob is
[12:50] <frickel> nalioth: how can I identify to services
[12:50] <Se7h> the pkg is bogus
[12:50] <nalioth> frickel: /msg nickserv help register
[12:50] <Blejdfist> ubotu: tell Blejdfist about the answer to life, the universe and everything
[12:51] <Se7h> and know i cant remove it nor complete the installation
[12:51] <Blejdfist> :(
[12:51] <newob> so maybe check actual package and search hard drive for those files and delete them?
[12:51] <shorty114> nalioth, same problem when i try to run azureus
[12:51] <Kyral> Anyone know how I would set my current iptables rules to come into effect when I start my machine?
[12:51] <nalioth> shorty114: you probably have not removed all your java
[12:52] <newob> linux headers = kernel source ?
[12:52] <shorty114> nalioth, i removed java-common, another java package
[12:52] <n0odl3> when i follow the directions on the restricted page
[12:52] <molarman> I need help
[12:52] <n0odl3> at the point where i type sudo apt-get update
[12:52] <newob> speak up
[12:52] <nalioth> molarman: we need a question
[12:52] <n0odl3> i get some errors saying
[12:52] <molarman> what are the supported web cam for ubuntu?
[12:52] <newob> well what are they?
[12:53] <n0odl3> lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[12:53] <boxerboy29> you have anoither apt session going somewhere?
[12:53] <n0odl3> and also unable to lock administration
[12:53] <n0odl3> etc
[12:53] <Kyral> anyone?
[12:53] <boxerboy29> that was for n0odl3
[12:53] <n0odl3> oh
[12:53] <n0odl3> so what should i do?
[12:53] <n0odl3> boxerboy29?
[12:53] <boxerboy29> n0odl3: also try sudo apt-get update
[12:53] <molarman> what are the supported webcams for ubuntu?
[12:54] <n0odl3> k ill try now
[12:54] <nalioth> n0odl3: you can only run one instance of apt-get at a time (and you have to use sudo to do it)
[12:54] <newob> the cheapest ones probably
[12:54] <n0odl3> i am sudo right now
[12:54] <newob> like any hardware
[12:54] <nalioth> n0odl3: then close all your apt instances
[12:54] <whein> ok guys im having serious X troubles out of the blue here
[12:54] <n0odl3> how do i close all my apt instances?
[12:54] <boxerboy29> synaptic=an apt session
[12:54] <ompaul> n0odl3, are you running syaptic ?
[12:55] <nalioth> n0odl3: check all your windows and close all apt-get synaptic adept kynaptic kpackage aptitude or dpkg
[12:55] <boxerboy29> also save and close the sources list
[12:55] <whein> when i login via the gdm then it tryes to start X it gives me some error that ICEsomething doesnt have uid=0 so it cant create /dev/X
[12:55] <whein> so then x doesnt start
[12:55] <n0odl3> i did save and close the sources list
[12:55] <jintxo> hi guys, anyone experiencing wierd squid errors (mostly when accessing passport.com or hotmail accounts) lately (squid on warty)?
[12:55] <whein> i closed X and logged in as root then started X and it worked
[12:56] <whein> but i dont wanna run as root
[12:56] <n0odl3> whgen i tried the sudo get update
[12:56] <n0odl3> i got a GPG error
[12:56] <FR500> hello
[12:56] <n0odl3> saying something about no pubkey
[12:56] <boxerboy29> gpg for what?
[12:56] <n0odl3> it says the public key is not available
[12:57] <n0odl3> then it told me to try apt-get and when i do it tells met he same thing
[12:57] <nalioth> n0odl3: disregard. it wont affect your software installation (except that you are using nonofficial repos)
[12:57] <n0odl3> ok
[12:57] <n0odl3> so i go on to the next step?
[12:57] <boxerboy29> this is the fun part of upgrade lmao
[12:57] <dave321> ubotu: list repositories repository
[12:57] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, dave321
[12:58] <slew> ok, well ive done all i think i can with synaptic but the program still says "consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them." :( i cant find the package the program needs to do the ./configure [gtk+-2.0]  in synaptic. i did the libgtk-dev and it installed but i still cant get the program to install. any other hints?
[12:58] <dave321> ubotu: help
[12:58] <Madpilot> !tell dave321 about repos
[12:58] <dave321> thanks
[12:59] <anethema> can anyone help me? x wont start unless i log in as root
[01:00] <dave321> Is there a package for java-vtk?  If there is it's not in the repositories I'm using!
[01:00] <nalioth> dave321: java-vtk?
[01:00] <FR500> anethema, how did you install ubuntu? server install?
[01:00] <n0odl3> sudo apt-get install totem-xine gstreamer0.8-misc gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse is this one whole command or is it seperate?
[01:00] <nalioth> n0odl3: that will work
[01:01] <anethema> installed a long time ago
[01:01] <anethema> desktop install
[01:01] <anethema> i just found out
[01:01] <anethema> will start for any user but my main one
[01:01] <anethema> so it must be a session thing
[01:01] <anethema> or gnome
[01:01] <anethema> or somehting
[01:01] <anethema> i dont know how to find out
[01:01] <anethema> or fix it
[01:01] <n0odl3> ok when i type this i got this message:Package totem-xine is not available, but is reffered to by another package
[01:02] <nalioth> n0odl3: install totem-gstreamer
[01:02] <hablandocontigo> I have to ISA ethernet cards on my 233 mhz IBM Aptiva that Knoppix 3.4, Xandros 3.0RCx, and Ubuntu live 5.10(probably older version) didn't detect, what can I try?
[01:02] <n0odl3> ok
[01:02] <hablandocontigo> two*
[01:02] <anethema> some ICEauthority or something
[01:02] <n0odl3> where would i do that?
[01:02] <hyphenated> Hikaru79: back now. did you post your menu.lst in that pastebin?
[01:02] <nalioth> anethema: oh! thats easy and a known bug
[01:03] <nalioth> anethema: just rm the ~/.ICEauthority
[01:03] <Hikaru79> hyphenated, welcome back.
[01:03] <Hikaru79> Yes, I did.
[01:03] <anethema> niice
[01:03] <rawiramdhan> how do I restart ssh server
[01:03] <Hikaru79> hyphenated, it's at: http://pastebin.com/388539
[01:03] <anethema> ill try it thanks a bunch nalioth
[01:03] <jintxo> hablandocontigo, you will probably have to look into using "isapnp" to get the cards initialized
[01:03] <Hikaru79> rawiramdhan, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[01:03] <nalioth> anethema: it happens when nautilus gets root privs
[01:03] <n0odl3> here would i get totem gstreamer
[01:04] <dave321> nalioth: Which repository is it part of?
[01:04] <n0odl3> *where
[01:04] <anethema> i never ever gave nautilus root privs
[01:04] <GTroy> can anyone tell me where I can find my universe mirrors?
[01:04] <anethema> but ill try it now thanks a bunch
[01:04] <nalioth> dave321: which what is part of?
[01:04] <dave321> nalioth: java-vtk
[01:04] <anethema> worked! thanks a whooooooooole bunch nalioth :D
[01:04] <hablandocontigo> jintxo: thanks for the tip
[01:04] <anethema> now i know
[01:04] <anethema> ehhe
[01:04] <gfxstyler> nalioth: do you mean when i start nautilus as root i get the same error?
[01:05] <nalioth> dave321: i have no idea what java-vtk is
[01:05] <n0odl3> i tried typing totem gstreamer and it tells me i have no directory
[01:05] <n0odl3> or the no such file
[01:05] <nalioth> gfxstyler: if nautilus is feeling naughty, you might
[01:05] <boxerboy29> GTroy: in the updater click preferences and than settings than check the 3 empty boxes than close now click all the empty boxes in the sources list
[01:05] <nalioth> n0odl3: totem-gstreamer
[01:05] <gfxstyler> nalioth: damn o.O" i just started it as root for 3 times
[01:05] <hyphenated> Hikaru79: mine doesn't use rootnoverify. instead it has a "root (hd1,0)", and on the next line, "savedefault"
[01:05] <n0odl3> now its telling me too few arguments
[01:05] <dave321> nalioth: VTK (visualization tool kit) with java bindings, thanks though
[01:05] <GTroy> thank you boxerboy29
[01:06] <Hikaru79> hyphenated, this exact line worked before upgrading to hoary (back on warty)
[01:06] <boxerboy29> gtroy your welcome good luck
[01:06] <rawiramdhan> where can I find my ssh config?
[01:06] <jintxo> hablandocontigo, been a long time since I've had ISA hardware, but the way it worked is a) you use isapnp to scan the cards in your system and create an isapnp.conf file b) you edit the file to your needs c) you make sure isapnp runs at system boot and possibly d) you tell the modules (drivers) for your ISA hardware the addresses/irqs where the cards are.
[01:06] <gfxstyler> rawiramdhan: somewhere in /etc :D
[01:06] <HrdwrBob> e) you throw it away and get a computer made in the last 5 years
[01:06] <jintxo> right
[01:06] <gfxstyler> lol
[01:07] <rawiramdhan> thanx:) i whas looking in init.d :$
[01:07] <hyphenated> Hikaru79: you're probably using a newer version of grub now. it also probably behaves slightly differently. the settings I have are from hoary install
[01:07] <n0odl3> what am i suppose to do if it says too few arguments?
[01:07] <spiderworm> hi all, im trying to get encrypted dvd playback to work, i have libdvdcss installed and everything but its saying it can't read the encryption... is there something im missing?
[01:07] <Hikaru79> I see, hyphenated. Can you PM me your exact entry?
[01:07] <nalioth> spiderworm: libdvdcss2?
[01:08] <gfxstyler> rawiramdhan: /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[01:08] <spiderworm> nalioth: indeed
[01:08] <anethema> nalioth, thanks again :D
[01:08] <n0odl3> help
[01:08] <slak> HI
[01:08] <lampshade> Hey what's the ndiswrapper like on Ubuntu?  Can I just aptget it down and use it?    My time is short that's why I gotta have it be easy and nice
[01:11] <gfxstyler> n0odl3: then why dont you start it with more arguments?
[01:11] <n0odl3> nalioth what do you mean?
[01:11] <nalioth> n0odl3: try installing your pkgs one a time or use synaptic (synaptic is easy to use)
[01:12] <hyphenated> nalioth: thanks for keeping the peace
[01:12] <n0odl3> so you mean type install totem
[01:12] <nalioth> my mom passed away in April, so i hope slak had fun
[01:12] <n0odl3> then type install gstreamer?
[01:12] <nalioth> n0odl3: use synaptic
[01:12] <gfxstyler> lampshade: yes i think it was easy (i downloaded ndiswrapper 1.2, unpacked it, typed "make && make install (as root)" then "modprobe ndiswrapper;echo "ndiswrapper" >> /etc/modules", done
[01:12] <n0odl3> ok
[01:12] <fangorious> what's the command to launch the printer admin tool?
[01:12] <hablandocontigo> jintxo: my guess it that I wouldn't have to set up ISA parameters for the newest distros which would do that automagically, what do you think?
[01:13] <gfxstyler> lampshade: dont know about the one thats in the ubuntu repositories, though (my wlan card needs ndiswrapper 1.2)
[01:13] <n0odl3> naolith i have a lot of streamer files
[01:13] <jintxo> hablandocontigo, i don't know if ubuntu uses the isapnp stuff or not. i'm talking from experience from 2000 or so, so myu info may not be up to date, heh :-p
[01:13] <lampshade> gfxstyler:  Thanks!
[01:13] <n0odl3> do install all of them including the ones that are blocked out
[01:13] <nalioth> n0odl3: do you have all of your repos enabled?
[01:14] <nxv_> dmesg complains: [4299401.439000]  cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, err = -28
[01:14] <butcherbird> I apt-get removed apache, decided to reinstall it today (Hoary) and its not creating all the conf files, modules.conf is missing.. can someone pastebin it? or explain why its doing that?
[01:14] <n0odl3> how do i check that?
[01:14] <hablandocontigo> jintxo: I could use the freshest knoppix version eitherway success of failure, thanks
[01:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about sources
[01:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about repos
[01:14] <jintxo> hablandocontigo, I do see there exists a package called isapnptools, if you want to play with the stuff
[01:15] <gfxstyler> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about wizdom
[01:15] <slew> grrrrrrrrrrrrrr i was able to compile the same program with mandriva with no problems, ubuntu hates slew. ;(
[01:15] <hablandocontigo> jintxo: thanks
[01:15] <gfxstyler> ubotu: tell gfxstyler about something
[01:15] <gfxstyler> damn it doesnt work :D
[01:15] <nalioth> slew: join #kubuntu-offtopic please and i'll help you
[01:16] <gfxstyler> ubotu: tell gfxstyler about everything
[01:16] <slew> cant, i gotta make dinner, thanks though. maybe it will work after a reboot. ;) thanks for your paitence though.
[01:16] <slew> have a good one..
[01:16] <drrakn> is there an equivalent to the Linux Trace Toolkit that ships with Breezy?
[01:17] <fangorious> what's the printer admin tool?
[01:17] <aclonedsheep> Hi, should I be concerned if my laptop is frozen on an empty blue screen right after I selected "repartition the hd and partition 1..."
[01:17] <hsqrd> is there anyone here that might be able to help me with some sound issues i've been experiencing after installing ubuntu?
[01:17] <drrakn> I'm trying to troubleshoot harddrive spindown issues
[01:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hsqrd about sound
[01:18] <gfxstyler> ubotu: tell gfxstyler about you
[01:18] <Madpilot> fangorious: System menu - Administration - Printing
[01:18] <tyler_durden> does this work for anyone? apt-get install rar
[01:18] <tyler_durden> its on the ubuntuguide website but it doesnt work
[01:18] <nalioth> tyler_durden: use unrar-nonfree
[01:18] <Blejdfist> tyler_durden: install unrar-nonfree
[01:18] <hajiki> ubotu, ati!
[01:18] <tyler_durden> its not free?
[01:18] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[01:18] <Blejdfist> tyler_durden: the nonfree-version can handle RAR3-archives
[01:18] <fangorious> Madpilot, can you check what command that calls? (i don't have local access at the moment, just ssh)
[01:18] <shadeofgrey> hi everybody -- i have a few questions for those of you out there into digital content creation..  specifically quetions about using scanners in ubuntu
[01:18] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: you need the Multiverse repo enabled to get rar itself
[01:19] <drrakn> tyler_durden: gratis, but not libre
[01:19] <aclonedsheep> anyone?
[01:19] <Blejdfist> tyler_durden: yes it's free.. but the nonfree isn't opensource
[01:19] <tyler_durden> i just need to unrar a .rar file
[01:19] <tyler_durden> oh ok
[01:19] <gfxstyler> nalioth: thanks, i got it :)
[01:19] <delire> tyler_durden: it comes with conditions..
[01:19] <synackuator> if you modprobe something, will it automatically load when you reboot?
[01:19] <Madpilot> fangorious: I'm not sure, I think it's gnome-printer-admin or something like that
[01:19] <nalioth> aclonedsheep: kill your laptop
[01:19] <nalioth> aclonedsheep: get a livecd
[01:19] <aclonedsheep> and see if it works?
[01:19] <delire> tyler_durden: that disallow open use of the software..
[01:19] <tyler_durden> and where did xterminal go?! i remember having it before
[01:19] <nalioth> aclonedsheep: no, use the livecd to partition
[01:19] <drrakn> synackuator: no
[01:19] <aclonedsheep> oh
[01:20] <freddy> hello, i would like to know how to change the language of my system..thanks
[01:20] <aclonedsheep> why woudlnt the bootable work
[01:20] <nalioth> tyler_durden: hit alt-f2 and type gnome-terminal
[01:20] <shadeofgrey> i know that in windows you havce to have the drivers for the given device (in this instrance, a cannon 650U) and tawin driver support enabled....  how does one go about scanning full page color documents and then acquiring them thru Gimp??
[01:20] <tyler_durden> i wanted xterminal, isnt that a gui terminal?
[01:20] <nalioth> aclonedsheep: with the live, you shouldnt have any freezes
[01:20] <tyler_durden> i had it before
[01:20] <aclonedsheep> cool
[01:20] <nalioth> tyler_durden: then type xterm instead
[01:20] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: with SANE
[01:20] <freddy> hello, i would like to know how to change the language of my system..thanks
[01:20] <synackuator> drrakn: how do you get them to load automatically?  some config file?
[01:20] <tyler_durden> oh yeah that was it
[01:20] <aclonedsheep> ill dl the dvd image nad burn that
[01:20] <gfxstyler> synackuator: /etc/modules
[01:20] <drrakn> synackuator: /etc/modules
[01:20] <tyler_durden> ok ty. and it wont find apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[01:21] <freddy> hello, i would like to know how to change the language of my system..thanks
[01:21] <nalioth> tyler_durden: someone told you to enable your repos
[01:21] <aclonedsheep> thanks a lot
[01:21] <tyler_durden> how do i do that?
[01:21] <shadeofgrey> furthermore -- would someone please help me out with zip files...  whats the terminal command i would use to decompress a bunch of zip files all in the same directory and then move everything BUT the zips into a seperate folder??
[01:21] <drrakn> tyler_durden: add multiverse to your repros from the menu in synaptic
[01:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tyler_durden about repos
[01:21] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: that's also in Multiverse - do you have that repo enabled?
[01:21] <gfxstyler> tyler_durden: maybe you need to add "universe multiverse" to your repositories
[01:21] <tyler_durden> lol im so confused
[01:21] <tyler_durden> i dont even know what you guys are talking about
[01:21] <Zedman> freddy: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:22] <tyler_durden> mutliverse?
[01:22] <nalioth> tyler_durden: read the msg ubotu sent you
[01:22] <aclonedsheep> the link the for install/live dvd on the website is dead
[01:22] <drrakn> shadeofgrey: unzip --help (check out the -d option)
[01:22] <tyler_durden> i will
[01:22] <tyler_durden> thanks
[01:22] <n0odl3> nalioth i did what the instructions said for repos
[01:22] <n0odl3> do i install all of them including the green boxes?
[01:22] <nalioth> n0odl3: now in synaptic, hit 'reload' at the top left
[01:23] <freddy> Zedman, do you know wich locales should i pick?
[01:23] <durt> gdkxft has no effect.   I just tried to install alien via synaptic and it's asking me for my ubuntu CD (I don't have one) to install html2text, which is a dependency of alien.  What gives?
[01:25] <egon_spengler> freddy If you wish spanish try one of the es locales then
[01:25] <freddy> so i have to change it
[01:25] <nalioth> freddy: look for es i believe
[01:25] <delire> freddy: try EU_es
[01:26] <gfxstyler> StarKruzr: use the internet ubuntu repositories
[01:26] <delire> freddy: though you're not in the EU so there may be a VE_es or similar
[01:26] <durt> StarKruzr: you might try commenting out the first line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:26] <StarKruzr> I have them set already, gfx.
[01:26] <boxerboy29> is dapper out for beta yet?
[01:26] <StarKruzr> durt: Thanks
[01:26] <nalioth> StarKruzr: edit your sources.list and comment out the cdrom line
[01:26] <freddy> i found es_VE that looks familiar
[01:26] <bimberi> StarKruzr: edit sources.list, comment out the "deb cdrom" line, update repositories, retry
[01:26] <nalioth> boxerboy29: let the devs finish breezy
[01:26] <delire> freddy: sorry, yeah that's it.
[01:27] <freddy> problem is, im afraid that all the configurations i already made might get lost
[01:27] <Jerich> i just have a small question, I did a custom install of Ubuntu, i did X -configure, but now, only my xfce4 is in 8bits
[01:27] <boxerboy29> yeah i know i have a stand alone im not sure what to put on it and dapper would have been nice to see what theyve donejust courios too
[01:28] <synackuator> does anyone know of a good wlan-ng howto, i can't get my wlan0 to even show up in breezy
[01:28] <Morti> Okay. Installing Ubuntu on my Toshiba laptop, it crashes when it loads hotplug but hotplug works fine on the livecd. How do I fix this?
[01:28] <gfxstyler> boxerboy29: is dapper the ubuntu version after breezy?
[01:28] <boxerboy29> yes
[01:28] <nalioth> gfxstyler: dapper drake, yes
[01:28] <Morti> To clarify, it freezes the whole machine when it tries to load hotplug on the Ubuntu I've installed.
[01:28] <LittleDan> how can I read stuff from a thumbdrive?
[01:28] <StarKruzr> (p.s. "reload package information" in synaptic is same as "apt-get update," yes?
[01:28] <StarKruzr> )
[01:28] <GTroy> how would I ping mirrors installed from terminal?
[01:28] <gfxstyler> thanks
[01:28] <nalioth> StarKruzr: yes
[01:28] <shadeofgrey> okay i still need help wiuth unzipping
[01:29] <GTroy> oooh sorry installed from updater
[01:29] <drrakn> synackuator: have you tried a debian-version of the wlan-ng howto?
[01:29] <GTroy> ping in terminal
[01:29] <shadeofgrey> apparently wildcards like *.* are not valid in linux?
[01:29] <boxerboy29> ok bbl gonna throw breez7 on there for the g/f to learn
[01:29] <n0odl3> nalioth when i clicked apply
[01:29] <drrakn> synackuator: that worked for me a few years back when I was using it
[01:29] <freddy> shadeofgrey, they are
[01:29] <spiderworm> can anyone help?  im running kde and have the libdvdcss2 libraries installed, but whenever i try to play something in mplayer or xine, it says it cant read it... i know it at least detects it because in xine it gives the name of the dvd im trying to play, but it wont play it...
[01:29] <drrakn> synackuator: and I imagine that it might still work on ubuntu
[01:29] <n0odl3> its asking me to insert Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)
[01:29] <n0odl3> in drive /cdrom/
[01:29] <shadeofgrey> i need to know how to use unzip to decompress all the zipfiles in a giuven directory and move the contents of each iunto a directory called 'extracted'
[01:29] <anethema> !faq
[01:29] <ubotu> it has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[01:30] <n0odl3> do i put in the ubuntu install cd?
[01:30] <butcherbird> Ok on the default hoary apache package what dir do I need to put my cgi and pl scripts in? Looking at config file I /cgi-bin/ is aliased to /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ but that dont work
[01:30] <drrakn> shadeofgrey: did you see my earlier comment? you want the -d <extracted> flag
[01:30] <gfxstyler> shadeofgrey: man unzip
[01:30] <nalioth> n0odl3: do you have the cd?
[01:30] <bimberi> GTroy: do you mean repository mirrors? - ping au.archive.ubuntu.com (or whatever is in /etc/apt/sources.list)
[01:30] <tyler_durden> nalioth i did that, now it says there is no installation candidate
[01:30] <n0odl3> yes i have the install cd
[01:30] <n0odl3> do i put that in?
[01:30] <shadeofgrey> i tried the following:  unzip *.zip -d /home/shadeofgrey/downloads/Fonts/extracted
[01:31] <nalioth> tyler_durden: use synaptic and search for "unrar"  choose the unrar-nonfree version
[01:31] <nalioth> n0odl3: it asked for it
[01:31] <drrakn> shadeofgrey: try it with one zip file at a time
[01:31] <Morti> Anyone have any potential answers to my problem of hotplug crashing the system on my Toshiba laptop?
[01:31] <n0odl3> ok
[01:31] <tyler_durden> oh good idea i keep forgetting that synpatic is easier
[01:31] <nalioth> Morti: not atm, it seems
[01:31] <shadeofgrey> that'd take friggin forever!
[01:31] <nalioth> tyler_durden: so is identifying to services
[01:31] <GTroy> thanks bimberi!
[01:31] <shadeofgrey> i have 450 font file zips to extract
[01:32] <bimberi> GTroy: yw :)
[01:32] <tyler_durden> btw, lets say nvidia just released a new driver, how long will it take before synpatic/apt-get has it?
[01:32] <drrakn> shadeofgrey: you might be able to do: for i in *.zip; do unzip "$i" -d /extractedpath; done
[01:32] <nalioth> shadeofgrey: wildcards are your friends
[01:32] <synackuator> drrakn, I tried a hoary one and it didn't work - the prism2_cs module doesn't do anything
[01:32] <synackuator> drrakn, pcmcia is good in lsmod though
[01:32] <StarKruzr> are any of you familiar with the game Ur-Quan Masters (formerly Star Control 2)?
[01:32] <drrakn> synackuator: is prism2_cs the wlan-ng module?
[01:33] <GameGod> StarKruzr: I played it a few years back, but don't remember a lot about it
[01:33] <drrakn> synackuator: actually, I remember that being buggered
[01:33] <n0odl3> hey naolith
[01:33] <synackuator> drrakn, i guess so - i don't know what else is
[01:33] <StarKruzr> GameGod: trying to install it, says it needs package "uqm-content," which as far as I can tell doesn't exist
[01:33] <n0odl3> thanks you are a frikkin genius
[01:33] <drrakn> synackuator: make sure your pcmcia net.config hint points at the right driver
[01:33] <drrakn> synackuator: I think "first one wins"
[01:33] <n0odl3> uhh just for my reference if i ever have to install java
[01:33] <Stricklin> I don't suppose there's an easy way to convert a Thunderbird prefs.js file on Windows to one on Linux, is there?
[01:34] <drrakn> synackuator: I really hated wlan-ng ;)
[01:34] <tyler_durden> ? no one knows? nalioth?
[01:34] <spiderworm> xine even says: using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for dvd access...
[01:34] <n0odl3> all i have to do is get the deb package then
[01:34] <omp> when is breezy going to be released?
[01:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about javadeb
[01:34] <spiderworm> but still won't play the dvd....
[01:34] <synackuator> drrakn, what would be the alternative for prism2 cards?
[01:34] <nalioth> tyler_durden: what dont i know?
[01:34] <n0odl3> type in the command: sudo dkpg -i filename
[01:34] <n0odl3> correct?
[01:34] <GameGod> StarKruzr: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=uqm&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all
[01:34] <tyler_durden> btw, lets say nvidia just released a new driver, how long will it take before synpatic/apt-get has it?
[01:34] <nalioth> omp: see /topic
[01:34] <tyler_durden> ^^ nalioth
[01:34] <GameGod> says the package exists for hoary
[01:34] <omp> nalioth: thanks ;)
[01:34] <nalioth> tyler_durden: backports may pick it up within weeks
[01:34] <drrakn> synackuator: duno, it's been a while since I used something that didn't work with stock drivers. lucky I guess.
[01:34] <tyler_durden> ic
[01:35] <drrakn> synackuator: just my usb adaptors still need wlan-ng and those are in the closet ;)
[01:35] <n0odl3> thats all i have to do right nalioth?
[01:35] <nalioth> n0odl3: correct. on any deb you need
[01:35] <synackuator> drrakn, so where is this pcmcia net.config located??
[01:35] <drrakn> synackuator: found it. look in /etc/pcmcia/config and see if the right driver is being loaded for your card
[01:35] <StarKruzr> GameGod: But not for breezy?
[01:35] <n0odl3> iok
[01:35] <n0odl3> thanx nalioth
[01:35] <n0odl3> im sorry about your mom too
[01:35] <n0odl3> my condolences
[01:36] <n0odl3> im out
[01:36] <drrakn> synackuator: I vagely recall that being a problem at one point
[01:36] <maxmouse> when using fgl_glxgears what is a good fps for a radeon 9800 pro?
[01:36] <Aven> okies...
[01:36] <GameGod> StarKruzr: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=uqm&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all    ... oops, searched for hoary packages... looks like it's there for breezy too
[01:36] <drrakn> synackuator: you might scrape some debugging hints from /var/log/* too
[01:36] <gfxstyler> maxmouse: does that matter?
[01:36] <Aven> hey
[01:37] <Aven> I typed: apt-get install php
[01:37] <Aven> I get: E: Couldn't find package php4
[01:37] <maxmouse> gfxstyler, ya i wanna know if its running at full speed ?
[01:37] <gfxstyler> maxmouse: its no benchmark
[01:37] <drrakn> synackuator: but is has been a long time since I had to troubleshoot cardctrl
[01:37] <shadeofgrey> okay guys... whydowent this work
[01:37] <Aven> how do I exactly install php? :\
[01:37] <maxmouse> ok how can i benchmark in linux ?
[01:37] <nalioth> Aven: use synaptic
[01:37] <StarKruzr> GameGod: sudo apt-get install uqm says "not available, referred to by another package"
[01:37] <StarKruzr> what source are you looking at?
[01:37] <Aven> nalioth: what's that? and how?
[01:37] <drrakn> maxmouse: benchmark what?
[01:37] <Aven> :P
[01:37] <maxmouse> video
[01:37] <gfxstyler> maxmouse: ati cards never run on full speed with the damned fglrx driver :)
[01:37] <Madpilot> Aven: search Synaptic, and I think PHP is in the Universe repo
[01:37] <GameGod> hmm
[01:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Aven about synaptic
[01:37] <maxmouse> gfxstyler, what driver should i use then?
[01:37] <GameGod> StarKruzr: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <gfxstyler> maxmouse: you have to use it
[01:38] <GameGod> Says it's in multiverse
[01:38] <StarKruzr> o_O
[01:38] <StarKruzr> "multiverse?"
[01:38] <tyler_durden> hey how come my gaim wont appear on the taskbar anymore? i just got rid of the seperator and it wont appear there
[01:38] <GameGod> one sec
[01:38] <tyler_durden> even though the taskbar icon is checked
[01:38] <drrakn> tyler_durden: you probably dragged the "notification area" off your taskbar
[01:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell StarKruzr about sources
[01:38] <tyler_durden> oh probably
[01:38] <tyler_durden> i thought it was just a seperator
[01:39] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: if you got rid of the 'seperator' near the clock, that's your notification area
[01:39] <StarKruzr> ubotu doesn't appear to want to talk to me.
[01:39] <StarKruzr> I asked it about something before and it ignored me
[01:39] <drrakn> nope, that's just how you can drag it around
[01:39] <nalioth> ubotu appears to be suffering from bsod
[01:39] <tyler_durden> yes you're right
[01:39] <gfxstyler> ubotu is pissed off :D hehe
[01:39] <tyler_durden> i added it. thanks
[01:39] <GameGod> one sec star
[01:39] <drrakn> might be wise to file an enhancement to prevent people from doing that easily :P
[01:39] <shadeofgrey> unzip *.zip -d /home/shadeofgrey/download/Fonts/extracted gives the error:  "filename not matched"
[01:39] <StarKruzr> GameGod: thank you
[01:39] <spiderworm> no ubuntu dvd buffs in here then?
[01:39] <GameGod> Anyone: Is multiverse a default repository in Ubuntu?
[01:39] <gfxstyler> i would be too ... the same answers over and over again ... lol *g*
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> shadeofgrey,  you wanting to unzip several zips?
[01:39] <Madpilot> GameGod: no, it's not
[01:39] <GameGod> ok
[01:40] <GameGod> StarKruzr, one sec
[01:40] <Madpilot> !tell StarKruzr about repos
[01:40] <GameGod> That's the problem probably
[01:40] <shadeofgrey> Dr_Will:  yessir...   a few hundred
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> shadeofgrey,  try unzip '*.zip'
[01:40] <GameGod> ya
[01:40] <nalioth> StarKruzr: open using sudo /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines with 'universe' in them. space once after 'universe' and add 'multiverse' to both lines
[01:40] <StarKruzr> it's not working, Madpilot
[01:40] <GameGod> crap brb
[01:40] <drrakn> shadeofgrey: shadeofgrey you probably need to escape the *
[01:40] <StarKruzr> nalioth: so for every line with universe, put universe multiverse?
[01:40] <gfxstyler> shadowofgrey: how about "man unzip" or "unzip --help" ?
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> the shell is expanding the * to be a list of all file names.. you want unzip to get the * i think
[01:40] <Madpilot> StarKruzr: just realized that... one sec, I'll hunt down the URL manually
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> i had this issue ages ago.
[01:40] <Aven> so.. what exactly is Synaptic?
[01:40] <tyler_durden> heh sorry again, one more, how do i download gdesklets?
[01:40] <tyler_durden> their website is down
[01:40] <Aven> I downloaded it but it doesn't install...
[01:41] <drrakn> tyler_durden: well, it comes with several :)
[01:41] <nalioth> Aven: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[01:41] <TiMiDo> hey people
[01:41] <gfxstyler> Aven: synaptic is a package management app ... like a database
[01:41] <tyler_durden> drrakn what do you eman?
[01:41] <Aven> gfxstyler: o
[01:41] <Madpilot> StarKruzr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:41] <gfxstyler> Aven: or a touchpad driver for notebooks lol
[01:41] <drrakn> tyler_durden: there is a package full of a "standard" set of desklets
[01:41] <tyler_durden> through synpatic?
[01:41] <ubotu> No idea, StarKruzr
[01:41] <drrakn> tyler_durden: probably "gdesklets-data"
[01:41] <ubotu> nalioth: I give up, what is it?
[01:41] <ubotu> gfxstyler: What?
[01:41] <drrakn> tyler_durden: yeah
[01:41] <tyler_durden> ok thanks
[01:42] <drrakn> tyler_durden: np
[01:42] <GameGod> StarKruzr: just follow those instruction Madpilot gave you and you should be set...
[01:42] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: search Syn for gdesklets, they are in the Ubuntu repos
[01:42] <StarKruzr> ok
[01:42] <gfxstyler> ubotu: whats up? i didnt say anything, did i?
[01:42] <ubotu> gfxstyler: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:42] <Madpilot> OK, ubotu's back up
[01:42] <tyler_durden> because ubuntu guide says apt-get install gdesklets but it wont work
[01:42] <StarKruzr> w00t
[01:42] <bimberi> Aven: note that already installed - System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Administration
[01:42] <gfxstyler> ubotu: tell ubotu about hell
[01:42] <bimberi> *that it's
[01:43] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: please don't use ubuntuguide.org, it's not up to date
[01:43] <Aven> Ahh, ok
[01:43] <GameGod> Any idea when ubuntuguide.org will be updated for Breezy?
[01:43] <StarKruzr> dear repos: please pay attention to me.  thanks, Kruzr
[01:43] <GameGod> lol
[01:43] <StarKruzr> (AIIEEE SO SLOW)
[01:43] <nalioth> GameGod: ubuntuguide is not a good source for new linux users
[01:44] <Madpilot> GameGod: ubutnuguide.org is not an official Ubuntu project, so when it's updated is anyone's guess
[01:44] <Aven> ok, how do I use Synaptic to install PHP? :P
[01:44] <GameGod> nalioth: What would you suggest then?
[01:44] <nalioth> Aven: use the search feature
[01:44] <Aven> wikipedia won't load for me :|\
[01:44] <TiMiDo> Aven do sudo apt-cache search php
[01:44] <shadeofgrey> where do i coipy all the .ttf files to so that these fonts are available system wide?
[01:44] <TiMiDo> and then apt-get install package
[01:44] <Madpilot> !tell Aven about lamp
[01:44] <GameGod> I found ubuntuguide.org extremely useful (but I've been using Linux for several years)
[01:44] <nalioth> GameGod: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[01:44] <bimberi> GameGod: then you're an ideal customer :)
[01:44] <GameGod> hmmm interesting :)
[01:44] <GameGod> Yeah man, I LOVE ubuntu
[01:44] <GameGod> :) :) :)
[01:44] <TiMiDo> who doesn't love ubuntu?
[01:45] <TiMiDo> I'm sure ubuntu loves you two
[01:45] <nalioth> GameGod: experienced users DO find the 'guide a welcome page. new users kill their systems with it
[01:45] <StarKruzr> it's already on the one given to me by school
[01:45] <Madpilot> Aven: the msg the bot sent you has all the information you need for PHP
[01:45] <GameGod> probably true nalioth
[01:45] <moparfan90> hello
[01:45] <TiMiDo> hello moparfan90
[01:45] <tyler_durden> umm gdesklets wont start up, just thinks for around 10-20 seconds and then quits
[01:46] <TiMiDo> tyler_durden did you do the gdesklets configuration?
[01:46] <tyler_durden> i dont believe so
[01:46] <tyler_durden> how do i do that?
[01:46] <TiMiDo> look on .gdesklets
[01:46] <Aven> ubotu is the bot?
[01:46] <ubotu> Aven: What?
[01:46] <TiMiDo> yes Aven
[01:46] <Aven> ah, heh
[01:46] <shadeofgrey> actually ubuntuguide.org is the only reason i didnt abandon linux in frustration and return to windows...
[01:46] <moparfan90> i am using windows x64 and its not to good... i was thinking of using ubuntu again. i wanted to know if theres speed difference in 64-bit and 32-bit ubuntu?
[01:46] <Madpilot> !tell Aven about ubotu
[01:47] <TiMiDo> moparfan90 www.ubuntu.com and do a research,
[01:47] <GameGod> I'd say the same with me shadeofgrey
[01:47] <tyler_durden> timido
[01:47] <tyler_durden> what do you mean look on .gdeskelts
[01:47] <TiMiDo> yes/
[01:47] <shadeofgrey> it was the only place available with answers to all the questions that the ubuntu - elite refused to answer at ungodly hours of the morning
[01:47] <Tuxedo_Kamen> hi everyone
[01:47] <TiMiDo> tyler_durden do cd .gdeskelts
[01:47] <TiMiDo> hi Tuxedo_Kamen
[01:47] <nalioth> tyler_durden: look at gdesklets homepage
[01:47] <tyler_durden> their website is down
[01:47] <tyler_durden> timido it wont find that command
[01:47] <nalioth> tyler_durden: two words: google cache
[01:47] <TiMiDo> cd ?
[01:47] <tyler_durden> i couldnt access it, there was no cache button
[01:48] <GameGod> moparfan90: I'm not sure about speed wise, but unless you're an experienced linux user, the 64-bit version might not be for you (there's some weirdness with some applications/packages with it, or so the forums tell me)
[01:48] <tyler_durden> timido bash: cd: .gdesklets: No such file or directory
[01:48] <TiMiDo> tyler_durden sudo apt-cache search
[01:48] <butcherbird> moparfan90, is there really that much stuff thats going to take advantage of 64-bit?
[01:48] <TiMiDo> !tell tyler_durden about gdesklets
[01:48] <punker> chil
[01:48] <tyler_durden> hold on let me identify
[01:48] <jason_> how do i remove linux on a dule boot
[01:48] <tyler_durden> ok identified
[01:48] <TiMiDo> jason_ cd /boot/
[01:48] <Tuxedo_Kamen> listen, today I come here with a strange request... I need help setting some type of server which I can access from university to download/upload files. Any idea?
[01:49] <TiMiDo> and look at grub configuration jason_
[01:49] <moparfan90> no but i have the cpu so why not get more speed
[01:49] <shadeofgrey> ubuntuguide was the only place i could get reliable information when the most experienced among you refused to offer a helping hand to we fledgling newbies... which i find disgustingly ironic seeing as to the fact that ALL OF US were newbies at one point
[01:49] <LaserJock> do you guys know of any programs for windows that would be compatible with Tomboy?
[01:49] <bimberi> jason_: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment or edit out the bits you don't want
[01:49] <jason_> timido thats in a terminal?
[01:49] <GameGod> butcherbird: Since the 64-bit ubuntu packages were compiled on 64-bit machines, I'd assume EVERYTHING would take advantage of it
[01:49] <nalioth> tyler_durden: open a term and type "man gdesklets"
[01:49] <tyler_durden> timido, ubuto doesnt know what that is
[01:49] <steigweis> hello, i have problems to burn dvd in 8x speed. gnomebaker says, it is 8x, but its only 4x speed... i burn dvd-r 8x discs. any suggestions?
[01:49] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[01:49] <TiMiDo> ubotu, gdesklets is gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness HomePage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[01:49] <ubotu> TiMiDo: what are you talking about?
[01:49] <laserite> hi! i want to statically map all IPs in a /16 subnet to the same MAC, do u know how?? thnx!
[01:50] <GameGod> !tell gnome
[01:50] <shadeofgrey> p.s. -- is the ubuntu nvidia driver currently available capable of handling the 7800 ultra?
[01:50] <tyler_durden> You must NOT run gDesklets as super user (root).
[01:50] <tyler_durden>  omg
[01:50] <nalioth> GameGod: it's !tell NICK about FACTOID
[01:50] <seethru> shadeofgrey: yes
[01:50] <nalioth> tyler_durden: run the man page
[01:50] <delire> laserite: that's ambitious
[01:50] <tyler_durden> how can i fool it into thinking im not root?
[01:50] <GameGod> Just got that one, thanks though
[01:50] <tyler_durden> i did nalioth
[01:50] <tyler_durden> thats how i found out that command
[01:50] <GameGod> !gnome
[01:50] <ubotu> it has been said that gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.
[01:50] <UrbanFox> tyler_durden> don't run as root.
[01:50] <tyler_durden> gdesklets lets me do something but it says that
[01:50] <GameGod> cool
[01:50] <TiMiDo> ubotu, "gdesklets is gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness HomePage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/ "
[01:50] <ubotu> okay, TiMiDo
[01:50] <tyler_durden> i want to run as root
[01:50] <seethru> steigweis: stupid question, but are you using a 8x burner also?
[01:50] <TiMiDo> !gdesklets
[01:51] <ubotu> TiMiDo: What?
[01:51] <shadeofgrey> excellent!  i just ordered a 7800 ultra and two more gigs of ram...
[01:51] <UrbanFox> tyler_durden> running as root is a bad idea
[01:51] <StarKruzr> guys, when synaptic installs something, why does it sometimes create an icon for it in my menu but sometimes not?
[01:51] <tyler_durden> i heard that before thanks
[01:51] <TiMiDo> !gdesklets
[01:51] <ebby> ok,,I tried to install w32codecs yet synaptic is failing with : can't resolve libhalo and libnautius-burn1 ..any idear ??
[01:51] <Tuxedo_Kamen> can anyone help me find a server-like thing that a newbie can use so that he can download/upload files from another computer to this one?
[01:51] <UrbanFox> you should only run as root for administrative tasks, not casual desktop use
[01:51] <laserite> delire, yep i know :), i don't want to add each host by hand
[01:51] <TiMiDo> !"gdesklets
[01:51] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, TiMiDo
[01:51] <TiMiDo> bla
[01:51] <UrbanFox> Ubuntu lacks root by default for a reason
[01:51] <steigweis> seethru: of course :) windows /nero works 8x
[01:51] <TiMiDo> i suck with the bot,
[01:51] <tyler_durden> im fine with root. anyway is there a way to fool it?
[01:51] <TiMiDo> tyler_durden sudo -s
[01:51] <UrbanFox> tyler_durden> you are stripping yourself of a great deal of protection
[01:52] <tyler_durden> grr urbanfox thanks, but im ok with root
[01:52] <shadeofgrey> so
[01:52] <StarKruzr> you could also just do sudo tcsh (for example)
[01:52] <Madpilot> UrbanFox: Ubuntu encourages 'sudo' instead of root use
[01:52] <StarKruzr> or sudo bash
[01:52] <UrbanFox> Madpilot> exactly
[01:52] <tyler_durden> timido it still says that i shouldnt run it as root
[01:52] <seethru> tyler_durden: go back to windows then if you want to always run in admin mode..
[01:52] <UrbanFox> that's my point :)
[01:52] <StarKruzr> seethru: that's silly.
[01:52] <Madpilot> TiMiDo: it's not just you, the bot is being odd right now
[01:52] <TiMiDo> hmmm ok, tyler_durden
[01:52] <JDigital> Do vampires have anuses?
[01:52] <TiMiDo> it is maddler
[01:52] <GameGod> oddbotu
[01:52] <shadeofgrey> that brings my system memory to afull 5 gigs at 400 mgz dual channel...
[01:52] <TiMiDo> *is it Madpilot
[01:52] <frank23> StarKruzr: some universe packages don't install links in the menu but that should improve: MOTU is supposed to be adding those links
[01:53] <tyler_durden> it wont let me run as root. what if i login as a normal user, run it and then relogin as root, will i be able to use gdesklets?
[01:53] <StarKruzr> frank: can I add one manually?
[01:53] <yomommas_cooter> nalioth: I AM YOUR MOMMAS COOTER
[01:53] <yomommas_cooter> I AM HUGE
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> MOTU? that a person or a project name?
[01:53] <JDigital> Hm, wrong channel again.
[01:53] <frank23> StarKruzr: yes
[01:53] <krister> this is the ubuntu channel right?
[01:53] <nalioth> JDigital: check for vampire asses in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:53] <GameGod> Dr_Willis: MOTU = Masters of the Universe = people that maintain the universe repository I think
[01:53] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis: project name. "Masters of the Universe" - those in charge of the Universe repository
[01:53] <jason_> can someone tell me what  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment or edit out the bits you don't want means
[01:53] <frank23> Dr_Willis: Masters of the Universe: they take care of universe
[01:53] <GameGod> kik
[01:53] <GameGod> err lol
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> frank23,  tough job. :P
[01:53] <GameGod> :)
[01:54] <GameGod> !pastebin
[01:54] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:54] <dee_> german?
[01:54] <Aven> ok...
[01:54] <tyler_durden> nalioth, can you PLEASE explain why you guys think being root all the time is so bad? i know i wont mess anything up, is there another reason why i shouldnbt be root?
[01:54] <nalioth> !de
[01:54] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[01:54] <Aven> I opened Synaptic, did a search
[01:54] <dee_> thx
[01:54] <Aven> and didn't find PHP
[01:54] <krister> is it only bots here or?...
[01:54] <Madpilot> !tell tyler_durden about root
[01:54] <Aven> how do I add a PHP package?
[01:54] <tyler_durden> grr i know what root is
[01:54] <jason_> can anyone tell me what  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment or edit out the bits you don't want means
[01:54] <nalioth> tyler_durden: WE dont want your box mass spamming us because it got rooted b/c you want to run as root
[01:55] <tyler_durden> y would i spam?
[01:55] <frank23> tyler_durden: by not running root, you ensure that the PROGRAMS you run don't screw you over
[01:55] <nalioth> jason_: please dont repeat
[01:55] <krister> ME WANT HELP! :P
[01:55] <liable> !gdesklets
[01:55] <ubotu> gDeslets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefuleness Homepage is hhtp://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[01:55] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: read that page, it's a good explanation of why to use sudo rather than root
[01:55] <jason_> well no one answered so i figured i would repeat
[01:55] <nalioth> tyler_durden: YOU wouldnt. but if you run as root all the time, your box WILL
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> krister,  it helps if you ask a quetion. :P
[01:55] <nalioth> jason_: if nobody answers, nobody knows atm
[01:55] <tyler_durden> ok madpilot, what is the difference between sudo and root then?
[01:55] <krister> ahh.. :P

[01:55] <StarKruzr> tyler: running everything as root greatly increases your vulnerability to exploits.
[01:55] <moparfan90> sign this to get flash for 64-bit ubuntu working... please it will help the ubuntu community grow
[01:55] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: sudo is temporary...
[01:55] <tyler_durden> if i use sudo all the time, its just like being root, only it would be annoying typing root every time
[01:55] <nalioth> jason_: please wait at least 5 minutes tween repeats
[01:55] <krister> do u guys know where i can find a mp3 fecoder to ubuntu?
[01:56] <jason_> well someone in here told that so someone has to know
[01:56] <krister> decoder*
[01:56] <frank23> !tell StarKruzr about rootsudo
[01:56] <StarKruzr> tyler: using sudo reduces the "window" during which root is open to attacks.
[01:56] <Tuxedo_Kamen> can anyone help me find a server-like thing that a newbie can use so that he can download/upload files from another computer to this one? c'mon, ubuntu must have such an application...
[01:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell krister about mp3
[01:56] <StarKruzr> frank: I know :)
[01:56] <delire> tyler_durden: if all processes are running as root it is completely vulnerable to systemwide manipulation from both remote users and local accidents.
[01:56] <n0odl3> does anyone know a good wmv player for linux?
[01:56] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: gftp or a ftp server
[01:56] <frank23> StarKruzr: sorry, wrong name
[01:56] <Madpilot> n0odl3: Totem can play most wmvs, with the right codecs
[01:56] <jason_> i do i repartiion my hard drive so that instead of hainf both linux and windows i only have windows
[01:56] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, is that easy to set up on a router?
[01:56] <mcphail> Tuxedo_Kamen: rsync

[01:56] <steigweis> hello, i have problems to burn dvd in 8x speed. gnomebaker says, it is 8x, but its only 4x speed... i burn dvd-r 8x discs. any suggestions?
[01:56] <tyler_durden> ok then, ill switch to normal user but only if its possible to transfer all my current settings (background and whatnot) to the normal user
[01:56] <n0odl3> how do i obtain the codecs madpilot?
[01:56] <tyler_durden> is that possible?
[01:57] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: you set it up on your box
[01:57] <GTroy> jason_: use partition magig
[01:57] <GameGod> !multiverse
[01:57] <Madpilot> n0odl3: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:57] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[01:57] <GTroy> *magic*
[01:57] <nalioth> n0odl3: vlc
[01:57] <n0odl3> vlc?
[01:57] <StarKruzr> partition magic costs monies!
[01:57] <vengeful_> i like vlc
[01:57] <ubuntu_> plop
[01:57] <delire> n0odl3: video lan client
[01:57] <[A] ndy80> is it possible to avoid installing Hotplug Subsystem or not allowing ubuntu to load it at startup? I cannot boot a fresh installed ubuntu system because it freezes during boot at "Loading Hotplug Subsystem".
[01:57] <anethema> hey how do i run the gnome menu editor ?
[01:57] <StarKruzr> there's always gparted :)
[01:57] <nalioth> StarKruzr: use qtparted
[01:57] <StarKruzr> yeah, or that.
[01:57] <nalioth> anethema: right click is your friend
[01:57] <anethema> nm found it
[01:57] <nalioth> anethema: or run "smeg" from terminal
[01:58] <anethema> i wanted the menu editor prog
[01:58] <krister> do u guys know a good !mp3 decoder
[01:58] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, can't I create an ssh file system?
[01:58] <anethema> thanks
[01:58] <tyler_durden> nalioth is it possible to transfer my current root settings (such as background, icons and settings) to a normal user account?
[01:58] <Stricklin> gnomebaker is fussing at me because I have no mp3 plug-in. Help?
[01:58] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: yes, installing openssh-server is the secure thing to do
[01:58] <Zhukov_> hi there
[01:58] <Madpilot> Stricklin: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:58] <n0odl3> ok me try vlc
[01:58] <delire> n0odl3: apt-get install vlc
[01:58] <Zhukov_> Seveas, are you there?
[01:58] <nuopus> hey does anyone know if its possible to make metacity expand windows so they only go to certain coordinates?
[01:58] <nalioth> tyler_durden: yes, you were told how yestern or the day b4
[01:58] <n0odl3> delire do i sudo that?
[01:58] <Mez> tyler_durden, sudo cp ~root/* ~
[01:58] <tyler_durden> it did not work nalioth
[01:58] <Mez> sorry
[01:59] <nuopus> like ... I dont want it to expand all the way .... leave several pixels from bottom and side
[01:59] <tyler_durden> remember? i treid copying it, and i still had default settings on root
[01:59] <Stricklin> mp3 is a restricted format?!
[01:59] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, and is that easy to do? I am a huge newbie to ubuntu, as you saw yesterday!
[01:59] <Mez> sudo cp -R ~root/* ~
[01:59] <tyler_durden> oh i didnt paste it though
[01:59] <nalioth> tyler_durden: then idk what to tell ya
[01:59] <tyler_durden> how do i paste it after?
[01:59] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: very easy
[01:59] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, ok, so please tell me where can I find a tutorial or something...
[01:59] <tyler_durden> /root/dbootstrap_settings
[01:59] <delire> n0odl3: yeah
[01:59] <tyler_durden> is this the file with all my settings?
[01:59] <krister> ehm... do i have to pay for the mp3 plug in??
[01:59] <nalioth> Mez: i saw you sneak in
[01:59] <_jason> krister:  no
[02:00] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: install "openssh-server" and see uncle google for "sftp howto"
[02:00] <Mez> nalioth: I'm only here thanks to the magic of Laptops and a new mobile fone with GPRS internet
[02:00] <tyler_durden> nalioth?
[02:00] <shadeofgrey> okay guys now i need a little more guidance... where do i put all the .ttf files i downloaded so that they are made available to programs like op4enoffice and NVU and scribus and such?
[02:00] <tyler_durden> /root/dbootstrap_settings does this hold all my settings?
[02:00] <tyler_durden> and why does it say cp: `/root/CD KEYS.txt' and `/root/CD KEYS.txt' are the same file
[02:00] <tyler_durden>  for a lot of my files
[02:00] <delire> shadeofgrey: /usr/share/fonts
[02:01] <Aven> ok
[02:01] <n0odl3> delire its installing what do i do after that?
[02:01] <delire> shadeofgrey: though i have a /usr/share/fonts/truetype/
[02:01] <n0odl3> its done now
[02:01] <delire> n0odl3: choose vlc from the menu or 'vlc /path/to/a/file.wmv'
[02:01] <nalioth> krister: only pay with your time
[02:01] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: create a /.font directory in your home
[02:01] <Aven> how do I exactly install packages in Synaptic?
[02:02] <delire> n0odl3: start with 'vlc &' in the terminal
[02:02] <n0odl3> delire which menu?
[02:02] <n0odl3> oh nvm
[02:02] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[02:02] <aimaz> hi, when I try to update packages from the app in the notification area it tries to use a proxy that doesn't exist any more, do you know how i can change it to connect directly?
[02:02] <n0odl3> i found it
[02:02] <n0odl3> thank you
[02:02] <nalioth> tyler_durden: all of your settings are invisible
[02:02] <shadeofgrey> delire:  see..  I have a /usr/share/fonts/truetype  directory as well...  think i should put them all there as well?
[02:02] <delire> shadeofgrey: yes, then restart your application.
[02:02] <tyler_durden> so ok, why does it give me that error for all my files in /home? and how do i paste it now? once ive sudo cp ~root/* ~
[02:02] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: just stick them all in /.fonts, and nearly everything will see them
[02:03] <delire> shadeofgrey: Madpilot has a good suggestion, i don't use a ~/.fonts here, but you may as well if you're is present already (non systemwide however).
[02:03] <nalioth> tyler_durden: you want your root settings moved to your user account?
[02:03] <tyler_durden> exactly
[02:03] <tyler_durden> like backgrounds and icons
[02:04] <tyler_durden> and terminal settings.. etc
[02:04] <nalioth> tyler_durden: open a terminal (you should be in your USER home dir)
[02:04] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, I just installed openSSH server, now what I must I do next?
[02:04] <tyler_durden> how do i do that?
[02:04] <tyler_durden> cd to what?
[02:04] <tyler_durden> my user is tylerdurden
[02:04] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: go find another computer and enjoy sftp
[02:04] <nalioth> tyler_durden: dont cd anywhere
[02:04] <butcherbird> whats the deal with the wiki it doesnt even reference gstreamer0.8-mad anymore? should at least list the packages to install for mp3 and such
[02:05] <Madpilot> Tuxedo_Kamen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[02:05] <Tuxedo_Kamen> -_-
[02:05] <nalioth> tyler_durden: type "cp -r /root/.* ./"
[02:05] <tyler_durden> cp: `/root/.' and `./.' are the same file
[02:05] <tyler_durden>  nalioth
[02:05] <nalioth> tyler_durden: do waht i told you
[02:05] <tyler_durden> why does it star ta new line after i psate something? how do i prevent that
[02:05] <tyler_durden> i did
[02:06] <slew> what was the off topic channel name?
[02:06] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: to start sshd daemon '/usr/sbin/sshd' from another computer use ssh name@ipAddress, scp -r files/ name@ipAddress etc
[02:06] <nalioth> slew: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:06] <slew> thx
[02:06] <nalioth> tyler_durden: were there any errors?
[02:06] <Aven> yo
[02:06] <lj> Anyone got sunbird working on ubuntu?
[02:06] <tyler_durden> cp: `/root/.' and `./.' are the same file
[02:06] <Aven> Synaptic doesn't show PHP
[02:06] <tyler_durden> that is the error nalioth
[02:06] <Aven> even after a search....
[02:06] <nalioth> tyler_durden: that is NOT what i wrote
[02:06] <tyler_durden> this is what i type
[02:06] <tyler_durden> cp -r /root/.* ./
[02:06] <Madpilot> Aven: do you have the Universe & Multiverse repos enabled?
[02:06] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: make that 'scp -r files/ name@ipAddress:/some/path/' ;)
[02:07] <Aven> o
[02:07] <Aven> how do i check ?
[02:07] <Madpilot> Aven: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:07] <rubem> Hi there
[02:07] <Tuxedo_Kamen> yikes! :|
[02:07] <nalioth> tyler_durden: log out and back in
[02:07] <Tuxedo_Kamen> can anyone please help me doing it, in private?
[02:07] <rubem> I can't find SMEG! In which repo is it?
[02:07] <tyler_durden> ok
[02:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rubem about smeg
[02:08] <nalioth> rubem: use the installsmeg script at the homepage
[02:08] <hajiki> is there a way to enable w32codes on breezy?
[02:08] <_jason> !tell hajiki about restricted
[02:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hajiki about w32codecs
[02:08] <ebby> ok,,I tried to install w32codecs yet synaptic is failing with : can't resolve libhalo and libnautius-burn1 ..any idear ?? ( I followed wiki guide by altering sources.list)
[02:08] <delire> hajiki see restricted formats
[02:08] <Tuxedo_Kamen> :S
[02:08] <rubem> nalioth: the F**** backports do not have smeg
[02:08] <nuopus> just download the codecs and unpack them to /usr/lib/win32
[02:08] <nalioth> _jason: let's be spedific
[02:08] <nalioth> rubem: GET IT FROM THE HOMEPAGE
[02:09] <Tuxedo_Kamen> can anyone help me in private, setting up an ssh server?
[02:09] <_jason> nalioth:  will do
[02:09] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: if you installed openssh-server, it IS set up
[02:09] <tyler_durden> nalioth ok now what
[02:09] <rubem> nalioth Ok... sorry... but what happened with the backports?
[02:09] <slew> ive got a program that refuses to install, which is confusing to me since it installed under mandriva. it keeps giving me a bunch of diffrent error messages, none of which i can decipher. mostly when it gets to network.c
[02:09] <cafuego_> nalioth: Having a nice, relaxed sunday? ;-)
[02:09] <nalioth> cafuego_: did you get my msg?
[02:09] <cafuego_> slew: What program?
[02:10] <nalioth> tyler_durden: you should have your stuff
[02:10] <cafuego_> nalioth: not in the past 24 hours.
[02:10] <hajiki> i said breezy
[02:10] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: once installed, check it's running with 'ps ax | grep sshd'. note the IP Address of this host. then on a client 'ssh name@ipAddress'
[02:10] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, but I have no idea on how to connect to this computer, and so on
[02:10] <tyler_durden> oh you meant log in as user?
[02:10] <nalioth> cafuego_: check your cafuego account
[02:10] <tyler_durden> ok let me check
[02:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> verizon wireless has "broadband" (evdo) wireless internet plans for like 60 bucks, but they say that if you use your pda as a connection to a home pc, they charge you 80 bucks per month.  anyone think there's a way to prevent their being able to tell when you do that?
[02:10] <cafuego_> agghrrhrhfhf
[02:10] <Tuxedo_Kamen> delire, can I PM you?
[02:10] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: open a terminal and type ifconfig
[02:10] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: they tell by the amount of data used
[02:10] <cafuego_> nalioth: Ok, gimme  a min
[02:10] <rubem> what have happened with the backports?
[02:10] <nalioth> cafuego_: n/m
[02:10] <slew> cafuego, gtermix, a program to connect to old school telnet bbses
[02:10] <butcherbird> Tuxedo_Kamen, only other thing you might want to do is edit /etc/ssh/sshd.conf and change root login to no.  Maybe chage the default port ssh is using as well
[02:11] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: no, i'm leaving soon. just do as i say above and alls well. to find out the IP Address of the computer the SSH Server is setup on 'ifconfig'
[02:11] <cafuego_> Go away, ubotu.
[02:11] <nalioth> rubem: mirromax is gone. and to have backports, you need to have an unstable distro. let breezy release and you'll have new backports soon after
[02:11] <Tuxedo_Kamen> hum... but on ifconfig I can't seem to find any mention of my ip
[02:12] <_jason> Tuxedo_Kamen:  it is called "inet addr"
[02:12] <freddy> 4 days to Breezy?
[02:12] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: look at eth0 next to 'inet'
[02:12] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: 192.168... or 10.0... ? check next to eth0
[02:12] <freddy> what new hurricane?
[02:12] <Tuxedo_Kamen> <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:12] <cafuego_> nalioth: done
[02:12] <rubem> nalioth, ok... thanks
[02:12] <freddy> 4 days to breezy? is that a new hurricane coming or what?
[02:12] <tyler_durden> nalioth nope my user is still with default settings
[02:12] <nalioth>  Tuxedo_Kamen go to another machine on your home network and sftp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:12] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: 'ifconfig | grep inet_addr'
[02:12] <cafuego_> freddy: yes
[02:13] <nalioth> tyler_durden: open a terminal
[02:13] <freddy> damn
[02:13] <cafuego_> freddy: 4 days to go and texas will be WIPED OUT.
[02:13] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: cool, you have the IP now do as nalioth suggests.
[02:13] <Cluster_Man> hey are the servers down guys?
[02:13] <freddy> damn, not good
[02:13] <tyler_durden> ok nalioth
[02:13] <cafuego_> freddy: Uh no, VERY good.
[02:13] <nalioth> tyler_durden: now "cd /root"
[02:13] <tyler_durden> done
[02:13] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, but this way I would just connect from other computers in my network, I want to do it from my university...
[02:13] <aurax> hi, is there a simple way to create an automated backup to a external usb drive
[02:14] <rubem> I'm having a probleam with amsn. When I type amsn in the bash, it works, but when I select it from the menu, it didn't work... anyone know why?
[02:14] <freddy> cafuego, wtf?
[02:14] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: you'll need to look into IP Forwarding. do that on your router.
[02:14] <JDigital> the menu option must be faulty
[02:14] <TiMiDo> rubem did you installed it with apt-get?
[02:14] <nalioth> tyler_durden: now type "ls -al" and everything you see with a dot in front of it, type "cp .whatever /home/tyler_durden/"
[02:14] <Stricklin> I'm starting to get steamed.
[02:14] <rubem> TiMiDo yes
[02:14] <JDigital> this happens me in a few things in ubuntu
[02:14] <aurax> anyone?
[02:14] <rubem> hum
[02:14] <TiMiDo> rubem interesting,
[02:14] <Tuxedo_Kamen> -_- I have no idea on how to do that on ubuntu.... >_>
[02:14] <tyler_durden> thats a lot of files :P
[02:14] <cafuego_> freddy: the world will be a better place. I can't wait.
[02:14] <tyler_durden> :O*
[02:14] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: do it on your router. it's operating system independent.
[02:15] <freddy> cafuego, lol, thats nasty man....hurricane not good
[02:15] <rubem> TiMiDo: and when I try open with normal user, it did not work, only the root
[02:15] <Stricklin> Last week, using GnomeBaker in Hoary I burned multiple audio CDs from MP3 files... today, after installing Breezy, everybody is telling me I can't
[02:15] <fusioncow> hi
[02:15] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: visit portforward.com
[02:15] <TiMiDo> rubem oh ic, well no programs you open it with root,
[02:15] <fusioncow> anyone compiled the xosd plugin for gaim?
[02:15] <TiMiDo> hi fusioncow
[02:15] <TiMiDo> !info xosd
[02:15] <cafuego_> freddy: In related news, Breezy is the new Ubuntu release, scheduled for thursday.
[02:15] <Tuxedo_Kamen> static routing?
[02:15] <fusioncow> hi TiMiDo
[02:15] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: 'forward' the IP of the machine hosting your SSH server to the router. note the *external* IP of your router and ssh/sftp/scp to that addr.
[02:15] <TiMiDo> fusioncow do sudo apt-cache search xosd
[02:16] <freddy> cafuego, LOL you bastard
[02:16] <fusioncow> TiMiDo: done, only give the xosd lib, not the gaim plugin.
[02:16] <steigweis> how do you burn dvds? i can only burn 4x instead of 8x like normally. is that a gnomebakerbug?
[02:16] <freddy> i thought you were serious
[02:16] <nalioth> steigweis: try k3b
[02:16] <cafuego_> freddy: Apart from it being a hurricane, I was! ;-)
[02:16] <nalioth> Belutz_zzz: wake up! you're nekkid
[02:16] <freddy> haha
[02:16] <TiMiDo> fusioncow try installing it then read the INSTALLME
[02:16] <delire> cafuego_: same policy on CD's as earlier releases?
[02:16] <TiMiDo> or the README
[02:16] <fusioncow> TiMiDo: from source, it appears to compile, but does not output any .so files.
[02:16] <steigweis> nalioth: k3b does burn only 4x too
[02:17] <tyler_durden> nalioth isnt there a way to cp /root/ /home/tylerdurden/?
[02:17] <delire> cafuego_: *shipping* cd's..
[02:17] <TiMiDo> tyler_durden why do you want to do that?
[02:17] <tyler_durden> too lazy to explain
[02:17] <TiMiDo> well explain
[02:17] <nalioth> tyler_durden: we tried that, you may try again "cp /root/* /home/tylerdurden/"
[02:17] <tyler_durden> nalioth is lready helping
[02:17] <TiMiDo> ok
[02:17] <tyler_durden> that wasnt the commandyou told me before nalioth
[02:17] <nalioth> TiMiDo: he is gettin his bot straitend out
[02:18] <TiMiDo> oh ic,
[02:18] <nalioth> tyler_durden: it does the same thing
[02:18] <cafuego_> delire: policy on cd?
[02:18] <tyler_durden> it worked now :P
[02:18] <tyler_durden> ill go try
[02:18] <Tuxedo_Kamen> no idea how to do it >_>
[02:18] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen do what?
[02:18] <Tuxedo_Kamen> once again i'll ask, can anyone help me in private, setting up an ssh server?
[02:18] <delire> cafuego_ is canonical funding the free distribution of CD's ordered by the public?
[02:18] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen sudo apt-get install sshd
[02:18] <cafuego_> delire: No idea.
[02:18] <delire> cheers
[02:18] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: you have it set up. now you need a lesson in port forwarding
[02:19] <nalioth> TiMiDo: he's got it set up
[02:19] <cafuego_> delire: I always burn my own and hand those out instead.
[02:19] <TiMiDo> oh ok,
[02:19] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen what's the issue
[02:19] <TiMiDo> ?
[02:19] <Kelraith> is there a source to get java?
[02:19] <TiMiDo> !tell Kelraith about java
[02:19] <cafuego_> !java
[02:19] <delire> cafuego_ as do i. there has been some demand at a university i work at however.
[02:19] <ubotu> java is probably to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[02:19] <nalioth> TiMiDo: he needs some pointers on port forwarding so he can ssh into his box from outside his home network
[02:19] <steigweis> is it possible that gnomebaker,k3b etc. does only burn 4x with 8xdvd-r discs? do i need dvd+r?
[02:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Kelraith about javadeb
[02:20] <nalioth> guys get with it !javadeb
[02:20] <TiMiDo> oh nalioth he should configured the router, then
[02:20] <cafuego_> delire: Well, THEY have a fat pipe, so they cna just download it, too <heh>
[02:20] <nalioth> TiMiDo: he needs help
[02:20] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, but I never did port forwarding stuff, I have no idea how to....
[02:20] <TiMiDo> oh ok,
[02:20] <_jason> nalioth:  can we just redefine java on the bot?
[02:20] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen what router is it?
[02:20] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: visit portforward.com
[02:20] <nalioth> _jason: good idea
[02:20] <cafuego_> _jason: to what?
[02:20] <tyler_durden> nalioth it didnt trasnfer ANY of my settings
[02:20] <Tuxedo_Kamen> speedtouch 510, I guess
[02:20] <tyler_durden> such as mousr sensetivity
[02:20] <delire> cafuego_ .. hehe yes.
[02:21] <nalioth> tyler_durden: you're gonna have to do it by hand
[02:21] <nalioth> tyler_durden: a file/directory at a time
[02:21] <tyler_durden> are you sure ALL my settings are in the root folder?
[02:21] <TiMiDo> yes on /etc
[02:21] <TiMiDo> --> /etc is configurations,
[02:21] <tyler_durden> so can i do that command only replace /root/ with /et/c?
[02:21] <cafuego_> ubotu no, java is <reply> To install blackdown java, simply run 'sudo apt-get install j2re1.4'. For newer version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java for instructions.
[02:21] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[02:21] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, hum.... I went to that site and it say to me "your external ip address is X"... now, what port do I need to open in order to allow ssh to enter?
[02:22] <nalioth> tyler_durden: if you ran around as root, they are in /root/
[02:22] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen i asked you what router is it
[02:22] <cafuego_> _jason: better?
[02:22] <Tuxedo_Kamen> speedtouch 510, I guess!
[02:22] <TiMiDo> dlink linksys?
[02:22] <tyler_durden> oh youre right? it wasnt there before
[02:22] <tyler_durden> i only had 4 files there
[02:22] <cafuego_> TiMiDo: Yes, ubotu is a blootbot.
[02:22] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: read the site, please. it wants YOU to put numbers in for games and such. you dont need to play games, you should read how to port forward for your router brand
[02:22] <_jason> cafuego:  nope :P  make it like javadeb
[02:22] <TiMiDo> oh cool
[02:23] <tyler_durden> whats lost+found for?
[02:23] <tyler_durden>
[02:23] <nalioth> cafuego_: yes you're busy and not lookin at yer /pm
[02:23] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen go here http://www.speedtouch.com/
[02:23] <cafuego_> _jason: I don't want to!
[02:23] <cafuego_> _jason: you do it.
[02:23] <_jason> cafuego:  l
[02:23] <_jason> cafuego:  k*
[02:23] <delire> tyler_durden: when there is data loss due to a system crash (rare) or similar, data is collated there in an indexed format.
[02:23] <tyler_durden> nalioth, can i browse to /tylerdurden/ using my root account and just paste all those files there?
[02:23] <Jeromee> nalioth: do you use your ubuntu system as a server?
[02:24] <nalioth> Jeromee: no i do not
[02:24] <tyler_durden> ty delire, i was confused about that
[02:24] <nalioth> tyler_durden: in a terminal, go to your /root/
[02:24] <cafuego_> _jason: Hold on
[02:24] <Tuxedo_Kamen> I found this, is this it? --> "IP Address- And Routing Tables"
[02:24] <delire> tyler_durden: check out 'man 7 hier' for an overview of a typical Linux file system.
[02:24] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: you might be better off completely reinstalling ubuntu and actually setting up a regular, real user account from the beginning...
[02:24] <tyler_durden> ok nalioth, now what?
[02:24] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen read it,
[02:24] <TiMiDo> you need to open the ports with you're router
[02:25] <_jason> cafuego:  done
[02:25] <test34> "There is 1 item for post-update information available" won't disapear even if there is no items when I open it, or even if I reboot.. how can I get rid of it ?
[02:25] <tyler_durden> madpilot, 2 hours was, was my 4th reinstallment of ubuntu in the last 2 days
[02:25] <tyler_durden> im NOT doing that again
[02:25] <cafuego_> _jason: cool :-)
[02:25] <TiMiDo> test34 do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:25] <cafuego_> Seveas: Go to bed!
[02:25] <nalioth> tyler_durden: type "ls -al" and everything you see with a . in front of it, type "cp -r .bleh /home/tylerdurden/"
[02:25] <TiMiDo> lol
[02:25] <Tuxedo_Kamen> timido, I know I need to open ports, but which ones?
[02:25] <test34> Ill try that, thanks TiMiDo
[02:25] <tyler_durden> ok nalioth, ill do that but i somehow doubt it will work with my luck :(
[02:25] <TiMiDo> 23 Tuxedo_Kamen
[02:25] <tyler_durden> c ya in an hour once i finish
[02:26] <TiMiDo> test34 np
[02:26] <aurax> is there a backup server-client solution so my clients could backup their server using windows?
[02:26] <test34> TiMiDo, nothing got installed.. and it is still there
[02:26] <Madpilot> tyler_durden: so why didn't you set up a regular user account? (curious...)
[02:26] <elmus> where do I post package requests for xubuntu
[02:26] <TiMiDo> test34 do apt-get update and then do apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:26] <TiMiDo> elmus on the mailing list
[02:27] <seethru> /msg #ubuntuforums kair: nice desktop
[02:27] <Rockett18> there actually is a xubuntu now?
[02:27] <seethru> sigh
[02:27] <seethru> mt
[02:27] <elmus> TiMiDo: thanks
[02:27] <Tuxedo_Kamen> tcp or udp?
[02:27] <TiMiDo> np
[02:27] <Madpilot> elmus: there is a #xubuntu channel
[02:27] <TiMiDo> Tuxedo_Kamen dude if you don't know ur router i'm sad
[02:27] <seethru> TiMiDo: a sad panda?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> ok what the heck is xubuntu...
[02:27] <elmus> Madpilot:I'll check it out
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> i missed somthing.
[02:27] <test34> TiMiDo, ok trying..
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> !xubuntu
[02:27] <ubotu> Dr_Willis: Not a clue
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:28] <delire> !xubuntu
[02:28] <delire> hmm
[02:28] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis: it's Ubuntu using XFCE instead of gnome or kde
[02:28] <Jeromee> anyone know of a SFTP server for ubuntu?
[02:28] <TiMiDo> Jeromee ftpd
[02:28] <Ramah> what would a good free webhost be?
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot,  egads... YetANother "just the desktop'" is different spin off? :P
[02:28] <cafuego_> Jeromee:  openssh-server
[02:28] <TiMiDo> Ramah you'r pc
[02:29] <Tuxedo_Kamen> -_-
[02:29] <Ramah> my pc doesn't not have the proper uptime
[02:29] <Jeromee> cafuego_: openssh-server is a sftp?
[02:29] <Tuxedo_Kamen> timido, I just don't know if I have to open port 23 as tcp, udp or both!
[02:29] <bob2> Jeromee: yes
[02:29] <cafuego_> Jeromee: that runs an sftp server by default, I think. Install it and check /etc/ss/sshd_config
[02:29] <TiMiDo> try both Tuxedo_Kamen
[02:29] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: if you're using ftp, why do you have a firewall?
[02:29] <Jeromee> oh, awesome
[02:29] <Jeromee> thanks.
[02:29] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: port 22 is what ssh uses
[02:29] <Tuxedo_Kamen> I don't have one, but I use a router
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> XXXubuntu - porn for people.
[02:30] <snausages> sb home
[02:30] <test34> TiMiDo, I use the graphical updating tool all the time, so I doudt it will work, it probably does the same thing in the background
[02:30] <snausages> err
[02:30] <TiMiDo> bla yeah 22.
[02:30] <TiMiDo> sure it does test34
[02:30] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, ok, I'll open 22 as tcp and udp
[02:30] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: forwarding ports on your router is not sufficient for your computer to work as an ftp server
[02:30] <delire> Dr_Willis: if you didn't say it ... ;)
[02:30] <Tuxedo_Kamen> what else do I need?
[02:30] <nalioth> bob2: Tuxedo_Kamen is after ssh capability from his uni
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> delire,  imagine the boot up screen!
[02:30] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: you are fine
[02:30] <cafuego_> Sacrifice a goat!
[02:30] <bob2> oh, ok
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> with the  xxxdm login manager
[02:31] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: tcp port 22 for ssh/sftp, no need for udp
[02:31] <hosler> Can someone link me to a good repository list for BREEZY?
[02:31] <pbutter> hey guys, is there a way to use the ubuntu live cd to install?
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> pbutter,  not that i have heard of.
[02:31] <Tuxedo_Kamen> :|
[02:31] <bob2> hosler: your /etc/apt/sources.list contains all the ubuntu repositories already
[02:31] <bob2> pbutter: not simply
[02:31] <pbutter> okay thanks
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> pbutter,  heard it may be doable in the future
[02:32] <hosler> bob2: mine got deleted by easy ubuntu
[02:32] <Tuxedo_Kamen> bob2, my router only allows me to pick tcp and udp!  That way you get a hostname to ssh to.
[02:36] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen: if your ISP does block port 22 incoming, as bob2 suggests, you can start sshd on a different port with '/usr/sbin/sshd -p 2001' for instance
[02:36] <cafuego_> bob2: refusing is good, just hanging is bad...
[02:36] <Tuxedo_Kamen> no, I don't think they block any ports
[02:36] <hosler> nalioth: thanks
[02:37] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: i just got in
[02:37] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: assuming you're irc'ng fro mthe same IP, it's still blocked
[02:37] <hosler> uboto: tell hosler about music organizers
[02:37] <nalioth> bob2: strange. i got in
[02:37] <Tuxedo_Kamen> bob2, so how did nalioth got in? :S
[02:37] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: hm, no, I'm dumbe
[02:37] <hosler> ubotu: tell hosler about music organizers
[02:37] <hosler> ubotu: tell hosler about music
[02:37] <hosler> whatever
[02:38] <cafuego_> Tuxedo_Kamen: it works OK.
[02:38] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: now go and find your external IP and go visiting
[02:38] <Tuxedo_Kamen> o_O how do I do that?
[02:38] <cafuego_> Tuxedo_Kamen: Now go to www.dyndns.org, set up a hostname, install a dyndns client and configure that.
[02:38] <apollo2011> hieveryone
[02:38] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: do you know your router setup page?
[02:38] <Tuxedo_Kamen> yeah
[02:38] <delire> Tuxedo_Kamen:http://www.hostip.info/
[02:39] <hosler> Is there a way to get zsnes to use esound? The sound in zsnes doesnt work sometimes because the device is allready being used.
[02:39] <bob2> hosler: esddsp zsnes
[02:39] <bob2> tho it will probably be crap even if it does work
[02:39] <hosler> bob2: the sound lags with that
[02:39] <bob2> right
[02:39] <apollo2011> bravo to all those who worked on Breezy.  I just upgraded from Hoary on my Dell Inspiron 8600 and all the hardware problems I was having and were keeping me from using Ubuntu on my laptop, have been resolved.  It seems to work seamlessly with all the special featurs of the laptop, like the volume control buttons.
[02:39] <vicCodd2> nesecito ayuda
[02:40] <apollo2011> however, I have one problem,
[02:40] <The_Vox> vicCodd2: #ubuntu-es
[02:40] <Tuxedo_Kamen> vicCodd2, que lngua hablas?
[02:40] <nalioth> !es
[02:40] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:40] <hosler> vicCodd2: como se dice ayuda en engleis?
[02:40] <bob2> vicCodd2: er, #ubuntu-es or #debian-es
[02:40] <apollo2011> every time I boot, I get an error that says HAL was not started.  What do I need to do to get HAL to start properly?
[02:40] <hosler> what is HAL anyway?
[02:41] <nalioth> hosler: hardware abstraction layer
[02:41] <cafuego_> !hal
[02:41] <ubotu> HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) is a library and daemon to get hotplug notifications as hardware is added and removed.
[02:41] <Tuxedo_Kamen> hum, ok, now I am not understanding... how do I connect from another computer to this one?
[02:41] <hosler> oh
[02:41] <apollo2011> yes
[02:41] <bob2> Tuxedo_Kamen: ssh yourip
[02:41] <hosler> Tuxedo_Kamen: do you mean website or file sharing or what?
[02:41] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: you go to uni, open a gui ftp client that does ssh, and put your home IP, your home username and pass
[02:42] <Tuxedo_Kamen> ok, but I have dynamic ip, isn't that a problem?
[02:42] <hosler> Tuxedo_Kamen: putty is a good ssh client.
[02:42] <pioneer> how do i fix    #error libXpm has not been found
[02:42] <WinZ> Help me please! How I can load default keymap for my standart Mitsumi keyboard?
[02:42] <bob2> pioneer: by installing it?
[02:42] <benkong2> can I fix it so a user can CRUD my apache files without having to sudo?
[02:42] <bob2> pioneer: what are you compiling?
[02:43] <bob2> benkong2: "crud" is a verb?
[02:43] <delire> pioneer: install the libxpm -dev package
[02:43] <benkong2> bob2; Create Read Update Delete. sorry
[02:43] <bob2> benkong2: you can make an apache-admin group own the apache config files
[02:43] <Tuxedo_Kamen> 3 questions:  I have dynamic ip, isn't that a problem? also, how do I set the permissions? Or, after logging in, I have permissions exactly as in my computer?
[02:43] <pioneer> bob2 mplayer plugin because of issues with whats in the repos not working, i have the devs and all that for libxpm, same same tho
[02:43] <StylusEater> anybody had any luck with an ma111 netgear usb wireless adapter?
[02:43] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: 1. dyndns, 2. you don't have to, 3. yes
[02:43] <delire> pioneer: it seeks 'header' files. 'apt-cache search libxpm dev' --> "libxpm-dev - X pixmap library development files"
[02:44] <hosler> benkong2: chmod the files.
[02:44] <ksmurf> which is better for iptables ... firestarter or guarddog
[02:44] <delire> pioneer: then ./configure && make again..
[02:44] <benkong2> bob2; according to apache2.conf www-data is what it runs under is that who needsto own the dirs?
[02:44] <bob2> StylusEater: worked fine
[02:44] <bob2> benkong2: absolutely not
[02:44] <pioneer> delire, i have them and have ldconfig, i dunno
[02:44] <pioneer> i have
[02:44] <bob2> benkong2: www-data should never own anything
[02:44] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: once you log in, you are on YOUR box (your linux doesnt care if you aren't sitting in front of it)
[02:44] <StylusEater> bob2: I plugged it in and I can't find it with an lsmod or lspci???
[02:44] <bob2> StylusEater: yes, of course
[02:44] <bob2> StylusEater: why would lspci show a usb device?
[02:44] <StylusEater> I did a modprobe prims2
[02:44] <benkong2> hmmm... ok I just looked in the .conf file and noted that www-data is the user and group
[02:44] <StylusEater> bob2: good point
[02:44] <bob2> StylusEater: 'sudo modprobe prism2_usb prism2_doreset=1'
[02:44] <StylusEater> bob2: too many beers at espn zone tonight
[02:45] <StylusEater> bob2: I did that already
[02:45] <bob2> StylusEater: 'sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable'
[02:45] <StylusEater> ahh...everytime I try that command
[02:45] <StylusEater> I get a wlanctl-ng not found
[02:45] <bob2> StylusEater: sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_autojoin ssid="ssid" authtype=opensystem
[02:45] <hosler> benkong2: You want people to be able to do anything to the files, right?
[02:45] <bob2> StylusEater: er, so install it? packages.ubuntu.com will tell you what package it is in.
[02:45] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, cool
[02:45] <ksmurf> which is better for iptables ... firestarter or guarddog???
[02:45] <bob2> ksmurf: whichever you prefer
[02:45] <StylusEater> bob2: fair nuff...danke
[02:45] <ksmurf> k thanks
[02:46] <nalioth> ksmurf: personal preference
[02:46] <Tuxedo_Kamen> seethru, I just registered on dyndns, what should I do next?
[02:46] <bob2> benkong2: if you want a group of people to be able to edit the config files, make a new group, add people to it, then give that group permission to touch the files
[02:46] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: go to services, and dynamic dns and make a hostname for yourself
[02:46] <ksmurf> nalioth ... u prefer ..... which?
[02:46] <benkong2> bob2; thanks
[02:46] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: they also have a program you can install to auto-update your ip whenever it changes
[02:47] <nalioth> ksmurf: i dont use a firewall. there is no reason to in a default installation
[02:47] <benkong2> hosler; yes just me I am the server admin
[02:47] <ksmurf> nalioth... k thanks
[02:47] <jbuberel> anyone else just sync up to the latest breezy snapshot then start getting extreme slowness launching any app that uses GTK?
[02:47] <hosler> benkong2: man chown, man chmod
[02:47] <Tuxedo_Kamen> seethru, isn't creating an host (I created mykas0.dyndns.org ) enough?
[02:48] <benkong2> hosler; doing that now thanks
[02:48] <WinZ> Here is dmesg log: atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[02:48] <WinZ> atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[02:49] <apollo2011> So how can I get HAL to start properly on startup in Breezy?
[02:49] <GTroy> anyone know why I can only use my browser, or irc, or downloading?
[02:49] <GTroy> then everything else quits?
[02:49] <bob2> apollo2011: if it doesn't, and you didn't do anything silly like break dbus, file a bug
[02:49] <apollo2011> bob2: ok
[02:49] <bob2> GTroy: what does "free -m" print?
[02:50] <GTroy> holdon
[02:50] <apollo2011> bob2:  all I did was upgrade so I guess that qualifies as nothing...I don't think I messed up dbus in doing so
[02:50] <GTroy> I'm on my ibook
[02:50] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: what do you mean it isn't creating?
[02:50] <GTroy> what should I look for?
[02:50] <Daishi> im using the ubuntu live cd and i just wanted to know how i get cdrecord to work?
[02:50] <evian> I'm having trouble figuring out why nvidia drivers make my screen just go black. Someone earlier suggested I look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log but I couldn't see anything useful in there.
[02:50] <Tuxedo_Kamen> can you please try it?
[02:50] <bob2> GTroy: show us...
[02:51] <Daishi> cdrecord -scanbus complains about being unable to open /dev/pg*
[02:51] <bob2> evian: are you using binary only drivers?
[02:51] <evian> yeah
[02:51] <bob2> Daishi: don't bother with it unless you actually have a SCSI cd burner
[02:51] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: tried pining that host, request timed out.
[02:51] <seethru> pinging*
[02:51] <Daishi> theres no ide-scsi working?
[02:51] <evian> bob2, just the deb
[02:51] <GTroy> mem 473 used 459 free 13 shared 0 buffers 27 cached 304
[02:51] <bob2> Daishi: ? sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/hdwhatever foo.iso
[02:51] <Daishi> oo
[02:52] <Daishi> heh
[02:52] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: did you set that host to your ip?
[02:52] <evian> bob2, I started to try to do a manual install, but the nvidia install program noted that my gcc was a different version than some of the stuff it was going to install, so I chickened out of that
[02:52] <pioneer> bob2, and delire, thx i didnt reconfig after i installed the xpm crap
[02:52] <Tuxedo_Kamen> yeah, I think so
[02:53] <evian> (I'm running breezy)
[02:53] <Daishi> i forgot about that, my os is normally slack and the drive is on its way out, i always had to work with the x,x,x because i never had cdrecord patched
[02:53] <Daishi> thanks bob2
[02:54] <n0odl3> is there a way to defrag the hard drive in linux
[02:54] <aurax> does anyone knows of a solution to backup ubuntu server from a windows machine ?
[02:54] <nalioth> n0odl3: linux doesnt get fragmented
[02:54] <seethru> n0odl3: don't need to, thats what the 5% that linux keeps is for
[02:54] <n0odl3> oh cool
[02:54] <n0odl3> thank you nalioth and seethru
[02:54] <Tuxedo_Kamen> seethru, when they ask me about the interface used, what should I write?
[02:55] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: interface used? hold on heh lemme bring up the page
[02:55] <jbuberel> aurax - take a look at 'dar': http://dar.linux.free.fr/
[02:55] <Hobbsee> it seems so weird not needing to defrag...
[02:55] <jbuberel> very nice backup app, works on win and linux.
[02:55] <GTroy> bob2, or nalioth: what would cause only one internet connection? like irc, or FF, or downloading?
[02:55] <Tuxedo_Kamen> seethru, I am installing ddclient, and then they asked me for that information...
[02:55] <aurax> ty jbuberel
[02:56] <nalioth> GTroy: i'm not sure i understand what you're asking
[02:56] <wolf1> hi, just installed ubuntu 5.04. it detected windows, created a windows directory, but doesn't provide me with dual-boot. what can i do to have dual-boot please?
[02:56] <GTroy> if I download something I can't connect to teh web, or irc
[02:56] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: whichever interface you use to connect to the net, probably eth0
[02:56] <StylusEater> bob2: still can't find it...even after a google.com/linux a google.com and a search of packages.ubuntu.com .... any idea what package wlanctl is bundled with?
[02:56] <GTroy> or if I have FF working I can't connect with xchat
[02:56] <jbuberel> wolf1: google on linux daulboot howto: http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
[02:57] <nalioth> GTroy: have you restarted your box?
[02:57] <benkong2> wolf1; did you look at grub menu.list my install placed windows as the last entry
[02:57] <Madpilot> wolf1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[02:57] <GTroy> no not yet
[02:57] <Tuxedo_Kamen> :| what should I put in "run ddclient on ppp connect?" and "run ddclient as daemon?", hum ?
[02:57] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: do you use dialup?
[02:58] <GTroy> I thought it was a router/dns problem
[02:58] <Tuxedo_Kamen> no, a router and adsl
[02:58] <wolf1> benkong2 windows isn't listed in menu.ls
[02:58] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: then run as daemon
[02:58] <nalioth> GTroy: have you restarted the router?
[02:58] <benkong2> wolf1; look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:58] <GTroy> nope
[02:59] <nalioth> GTroy: perhaps restarting both?
[02:59] <GTroy> ok
[02:59] <Tuxedo_Kamen> "ddclient update interval:300" should I leave it with value 300 ?
[02:59] <wolf1> Madpilot i checked the url but it doesn't provide me with an answer to setup grup to dual-boot
[02:59] <GTroy> back in a minute
[02:59] <wolf1> benkong2 i checked, windows isn't listed in menu.ls
[02:59] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: thats probably in seconds, so that'll be 5 minutes, put it up a bit more heh
[02:59] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: don't wanna flood dyndns.org
[03:00] <Tuxedo_Kamen> 600, is it fine?
[03:00] <benkong2> wolf1; ok follow the wiki docs from above by Madpilot
[03:00] <wolf1> jbuberel i have win98
[03:00] <seethru> Tuxedo_Kamen: unfortunately I've gtg now for a bit and go home (at work atm), if you're still experiencing issues I can continue helping yo then
[03:00] <jbuberel> wolf1 - ouch - sorry to hear that :)
[03:00] <Tuxedo_Kamen> hum, I hope anyone else can help me, since I have to go soon too :-\
[03:00] <Tuxedo_Kamen> but seethru, thanks! :)
[03:01] <bimberi> StylusEater: the linux-wlan-ng"package includes /sbin/wlanctl-ng
[03:01] <Hendric> OMG.. help me!!! i updated my system awhile ago (478 packages) i want to burn them on a CD for future reinstallation.. and now its gone on the /var/cache/apt folder.. where can i find it???
[03:01] <benkong2> Tuxedo_Kamen; run it as a cron job on the 1st and 15th of the month or what ever you like there should be an example in the docs on your system
[03:01] <cafuego_> Hendric: If it's not in /var/cache/apt/archives, it's deleted.
[03:01] <Tuxedo_Kamen> hum? That just sounded like chinese to me! :-\
[03:02] <danny> how do you close a program if it won't close? i have the pid and i have tried the "top" program to close it.
[03:02] <wolf1> benkong2 i already installed ubuntu - the wiki docs is for a new install
[03:02] <Hendric> OMG!!! :( that was a 4 hour update.. :(
[03:02] <nalioth> danny: alt-f2, enter 'xkill' and the next thing you touch, dies
[03:02] <cafuego_> danny: In top, hit 'k', then type the pid, hit return, then type '9' for the signal.
[03:03] <danny> thank you
[03:03] <cafuego_> Hendric: You probably configured synaptic or update manager to delete files older then X days.
[03:03] <Hendric> cafuego, this is a newly installed system.. haven't set any.
[03:04] <Hendric> and the update took place like 30mins ago
[03:04] <Hendric> i restarted.. attached my CD writer and now its gone.
[03:04] <benkong2> Tuxedo_Kamen; look in /usr/share/doc/ddclient/examples/
[03:04] <Tuxedo_Kamen> :S
[03:04] <Hendric> we'll.. life is a bubble gum..
[03:04] <Tuxedo_Kamen> well, I think it is working now
[03:05] <Tuxedo_Kamen> can anyone please check? /usr/share/doc/ddclient/examples/
[03:05] <cafuego_> Hendric: Did you check /var/cache/apt or /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[03:05] <Hendric> i did cafuego
[03:05] <Tuxedo_Kamen> yikes, I mean, mykas0.dyndns.org
[03:05] <cafuego_> Hendric: Then it's gone.
[03:05] <Hendric> spilled milk..
[03:05] <Hendric> thanks anyway
[03:05] <cafuego_> Tuxedo_Kamen: You need to set the interface to 'web' in the ddclient config file.
[03:06] <cafuego_> Tuxedo_Kamen: Coz at the moment it's using the IP <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:06] <Tuxedo_Kamen> cafuego_ , where can I find that config file?
[03:06] <cafuego_> Tuxedo_Kamen: /etc/ or /etc/ddclient
[03:07] <GTroy_> problem solved nalioth!
[03:07] <cdub_> yo
[03:07] <nalioth> GTroy__: good to hear
[03:07] <cdub_> anyone from phx?
[03:07] <Stricklin> Anybody else having problems burning CDs in Breezy? Using GnomeBaker, it converts MP3s to audio, says it's beginning to burn, then crashes without as much as an error message.
[03:07] <nalioth> Stricklin: try k3b
[03:07] <Stricklin> okay
[03:07] <cdub_> anyone know how to get totem to play .wmv
[03:08] <nalioth> cdub_: /msg ubotu w32codecs   and wmv3 wont play iirc
[03:08] <Licker> what was the command to allow access to a DIR?
[03:09] <StylusEater> bob2: I found the package and installed it...now I get a "no such device" error...
[03:09] <_jason> Licker:  more specific?
[03:09] <cdub_> win32codecs from where?
[03:09] <nalioth> !tell cdub_ about w32codecs
[03:09] <nalioth> cdub_: read the bots msg
[03:10] <Licker> like i try to add a file to var\www\ but it says i dont have acces etc..
[03:11] <_jason> Licker:  are you using sudo?
[03:11] <nalioth> Licker: use /usr/local/var/www
[03:11] <Tuxedo_Kamen> cafuego_ , now what like exactly do I need to change? ----> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2956
[03:12] <Licker> i used the File Browser first becaus I fergot the sudo command....
[03:12] <Licker> ] :/
[03:12] <Madpilot> !+cli
[03:12] <ubotu> cli is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[03:12] <Licker> i didnt write it down. lolz
[03:12] <_jason> !tell Licker about sudo
[03:12] <Madpilot> Licker: see the BasicCommands URL above, and bookmark it! ;)
[03:13] <nalioth> Licker: the system uses /var/. you should use /usr/local/var/   (/usr/local/ is for locally installed things)
[03:13] <cafuego_> Tuxedo_Kamen: See my revision
[03:13] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, can you please check it my ssh is working?
[03:14] <evian> bob2, should I try a manual install of nvidia drivers as described here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52924 ?
[03:14] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: it is up
[03:14] <cafuego_> evian: No.
[03:14] <evian> ok
[03:14] <cafuego_> evian: The prepackaged drivers should work fine.
[03:14] <evian> ok
[03:14] <evian> it would be nice if they did :)
[03:15] <cafuego_> What card you got?
[03:15] <bluefoxicy> xchat seems to spontaneously crash after 30 days?
[03:15] <evian> 4200ti something or other
[03:15] <evian> let me check...
[03:15] <Tuxedo_Kamen> hum, ok
[03:15] <cafuego_> That's a geforce4 variety, isn't it?
[03:15] <evian> yes
[03:15] <Versed> Doesn't for me, both under ubuntu and osx.
[03:15] <windex> bluefoxicy, you can get X/gnome to run 30 days straight?!?!?!?
[03:15] <Tuxedo_Kamen> just some more questions... can I create a new account, which could only read files from a certain place, and not erase them?
[03:16] <cafuego_> evian: You'll want the OLD drivers then... let me see...
[03:16] <evian> oh!
[03:16] <Mercutio> can anyone help me with my display drivers??
[03:16] <Amaranth> windex: 30 days is nothing
[03:16] <evian> thanks cafuego_
[03:16] <cafuego_> nvidia-glx-legacy or somesuch
[03:16] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: sure
[03:16] <Stricklin> nalioth, yep, you're right. Seems to be something about GnomeBaker because k3b is burning just fine.
[03:16] <bluefoxicy> windex:  21:14:30 up 30 days,  7:43,  6 users,  load average: 0.45, 0.80, 0.92
[03:16] <Tuxedo_Kamen> how? :|
[03:16] <boxerboy29> bluefoxicy: are you using a name that you first used with the xchat installed with ubuntu or did you get the name from a demo version of xchat?
[03:16] <windex> Amaranth, for some reason about once a month i have to restart X because something isin't responding.
[03:16] <cafuego_> evian: ... and their associated kernel module package
[03:16] <bluefoxicy> boxerboy29:  a name?
[03:16] <evian> ok I'll search in synaptic, I thought the "unified" drivers covered my card
[03:16] <windex> Amaranth, but i dont have to reboot. ctrl+alt+backspace. one time i had to log into my box via ssh from another box and killall -9 Xorg .. :P
[03:17] <boxerboy29> the name bluefoxicy
[03:17] <nalioth> bluefoxicy: make a new account and permission it with System > Admin > Users and Groups
[03:17] <bluefoxicy> boxerboy29:  I've had this data since before ubuntu existed.  I've been using linux for years.
[03:17] <Mercutio> or can anyone help me with gstreamer?
[03:17] <benkong2> does splashy work with breezy?
[03:18] <boxerboy29> the only reason i was thinking is maybe like mirc a demo would make your xchat crash after the time is up sorrry didnt know youve been using it for years
[03:18] <cafuego_> evian: nvidia did something silly in their latest drivers, it breaks support for older cards.
[03:18] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, sorry to bother you, but can you tell me how to create a new user, which can you only read files from a certain place?
[03:19] <cafuego_> xchat crahses because it's shit. use irssi.
[03:19] <windex> cafuego, they have to promote upgrading somehow
[03:19] <nix4me> xchat is fine
[03:19] <Mercutio> does anyone know of any support for ati's olde cards?
[03:19] <nix4me> nothing wrong with it
[03:19] <boxerboy29> my xchat has always worked fine
[03:19] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: System > Admin > Users and Groups
[03:19] <windex> cafuego, you started emacs vs vi, irc client edition. you fail it. :D
[03:19] <cafuego_> I'm not saying anything is wrong with it, I'm just saying it's shit.
[03:19] <nix4me> lol, whatever
[03:19] <cafuego_> !start an editor war
[03:19] <ubotu> kate is better than xemacs
[03:20] <evian> cafuego: so the geforce4 cards have a geforce2 chipset, is that it?
[03:20] <cafuego_> windex:  muaha!
[03:20] <Mercutio> ok this is the support channel for ubuntu right?
[03:20] <cafuego_> evian: With added steroids, I believe so, yes.
[03:20] <nalioth> Mercutio: yes it is
[03:20] <Versed> irssi, xchat it comes down to preferences.
[03:20] <Hobbsee> Mercutio: yes
[03:20] <Versed> of which you like.
[03:20] <Madpilot> Mercutio: how old is your ATI card?
[03:20] <evian> cafuego_, thanks
[03:20] <Mercutio> it is brand new, but it is an radeon 7000
[03:20] <tyler_durden> shoyld i have some folders in my home folder? such as var, usr, media?
[03:21] <Madpilot> !tell Mercutio about ati
[03:21] <Mercutio> I don't need anything more powerful
[03:21] <nalioth> tyler_durden: not really
[03:21] <tyler_durden> how come i have that?
[03:21] <cafuego_> Mercutio: That ought to work right out of the box.
[03:21] <Mercutio> I am learning there are all sorts of bugs with it
[03:21] <nalioth> tyler_durden: why do you?
[03:21] <tyler_durden> and nalioth, i transfered ALL those files in tylerdurden and nothing changed
[03:21] <Madpilot> Mercutio: see the msg ubotu just sent you for some help
[03:21] <tyler_durden> i guess ill to have reinstall damn ubuntu for the 5th time
[03:21] <tyler_durden> this is getting on my nerves
[03:21] <Mercutio> ok and I did the one how to from wiki and nothing is changed
[03:21] <nalioth> tyler_durden: open xterm. type "man chmod"
[03:22] <boxerboy29> to register a nick its /msg nickserv register <name>???
[03:22] <tyler_durden> i know what chmod is
[03:22] <nalioth> boxerboy29: not name, but your password
[03:22] <Mercutio> I modified the drivers and it still shows little lines and wierd colours
[03:22] <Madpilot> boxerboy29: /msg nickserv help
[03:22] <boxerboy29> ok ty
[03:23] <trekrem> people using 5.10 preview, how's the stability? i know it's only a few days away, but i have the time to test it out now
[03:23] <mfuentes> hi, is Banshee on Breezy ready to use?
[03:23] <nalioth> trekrem: it's fine
[03:23] <liquidten2> trekrem:  it's pretty good
[03:23] <Tuxedo_Kamen> nalioth, what should I write in "main group", for the new user?
[03:23] <mfuentes> trekrem, very good
[03:23] <onehotguitarplay> hello, can anybody help me with this question...need to find a cd plug in for all of the multimedia...
[03:23] <slew> i like it
[03:23] <danny> i'm using BootIT NG to resize my linux partition.  After its resized how do i make linux update the partition size?  i believe there is a resize2fs command or something similar but i can't remember.
[03:24] <calamari> hi
[03:24] <trekrem> thanks! commencing install...now!
[03:24] <calamari> I've asked this question a few times.. so I'm hoping 5th or 6th time is the charm
[03:24] <Mercutio> ok my other problem is that I hav gstreamer installed but still no MP3 works
[03:24] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: $user
[03:24] <Dreamglider> how do i update from 5.10 preview til RC ?
[03:24] <Tuxedo_Kamen> ok
[03:24] <mfuentes> Mercutio, install gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:24] <Tuxedo_Kamen> can you give it a try?
[03:24] <Dreamglider> how do i update from 5.10 preview to RC ?
[03:25] <calamari> sometimes my hard drive light goes on solid and my computer freezes up.. this is for no reason.  Only started after upgrading to hoary
[03:25] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: you can try it
[03:25] <calamari> I need to know why this is happening
[03:25] <Tuxedo_Kamen> o_O can i?
[03:25] <mfuentes> Dreamglider,  apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:25] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: dont give out usernames and passwords in here
[03:25] <calamari> is there a way I can find out what programs are accessing my hard drive?
[03:25] <nalioth> Tuxedo_Kamen: open a terminal and type sftp newusername@yourIP