[00:00] <Bray90820> when i ran sudo update-grub i don't think so
[00:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> mount it and check
[00:00] <Bray90820> ubuntu is /dev/sda1 and android is /dev/sda3
[00:00] <Bray90820> check what
[00:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: I mean try again
[00:00] <Bray90820> ok
[00:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> and this is the x86 android?
[00:01] <Bray90820> so i should do it while mounted
[00:01] <Bray90820> will try
[00:01] <Bray90820> can i do it from a live disk
[00:01] <Bray90820> well waite
[00:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I think so.
[00:01] <bobolopolis> VanessaE: there are a few different versions of the fglrx driver available if you enable the precise-proposed repository.  might be worth trying a different version and see if the redering behavior is different
[00:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> oh, lol. I forgot you were in a live disc
[00:01] <Bray90820> it won't work right now anyways because i still have the android grub
[00:02] <VanessaE> oh that's right, I forgot to fiddle with the various repositories.  lemme check that first.
[00:02] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i need to change from android grub to ubuntu grub
[00:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: exactly. Boot-repair shoulda done it, did you check out that ppa?
[00:03] <Bray90820> i will right now
[00:03] <one> Ubuntu: Where is the portslist located?
[00:03] <bekks> one: Whats a "portslist"?
[00:03] <one> bekks: the local file that defines ports
[00:04] <one> GoT_r00t: you got my root
[00:04] <bekks> one: /etc/services - which is pretty useless, since it isnt evaluated when an applications tries to open a port.
[00:04] <litropy> I'm bored with my box.  Any ideas?
[00:04] <haryv> To bad ubuntu does not have  a way to select which apps not to installed when the os is instaled.
[00:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[00:05] <VanessaE> haryv: the alternate installer gives you a bit more control over that as I recall
[00:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && (boot-repair &)
[00:05] <haryv> okay did not know there was a alternative
[00:05] <VanessaE> at least, you can select whole categories anyway, which will help pare down the install size somewhat
[00:06] <one> After ufw creates iptables rules are they saved and reloaded by iptables or ufw on reboot?
[00:06] <bekks> haryv: Using 12.04, you could use the minimal iso.
[00:06] <haryv> ubuntu is a butifull os. Really supprised there is even twitter archive discussions on the install process showing up on screen.
[00:06] <Bray90820> the & represents a new command right?
[00:06] <haryv> I started using linux when it was just two or three distros in 1997
[00:06] <bekks> Bray90820: No. & puts a command into the background
[00:07] <VanessaE> ok, repos enabled and updates installed.  let's see what THIS breaks ;)
[00:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: thank you, I forgot the name
[00:07] <Bray90820> so this command should be rub all as one command
[00:07] <Bray90820> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[00:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> yup
[00:07] <Bray90820> ok
[00:07] <Bray90820> i get you
[00:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> and the other after that is done
[00:07] <Bray90820> will do that now
[00:07] <bekks> Bray90820: && is used for "execute cmd1 and if successful, execute cmd2"
[00:08] <Bray90820> ahh
[00:08] <VanessaE> well, that had no effect on the subpixel color fringes..
[00:08] <VanessaE> (but at least I'm up-to-date again)
[00:09] <Bray90820> parentheses should be there right
[00:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: as I pasted it
[00:09] <Bray90820> ok
[00:10] <Bray90820> sorry to ask so many questions
[00:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: no prob, its a support channel after all
[00:10] <Bray90820> yea
[00:10] <VanessaE> I think my issue is that "lcd filtering" on top of the subpixel antialiasing simply is not working
[00:10] <one> Ubuntu: suppose someone has gained root access will changing the root password then lock them out or will thier privledges remain until they are disconnected even after updating password?
[00:11] <bekks> one: There is no root password.
[00:11] <anony> j
[00:11] <bekks> !root | one
[00:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: interesting question, keep them from getting root access in the first place and it wont happen
[00:11] <one> bekks: I modified my system to not use sudo but root
[00:12] <bekks> one: Which is a very bad idea.
[00:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: why.
[00:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: I would not say bad so much as advanced.
[00:12] <one> because if there is an exploitable program running as the sudo user its easier to gain sudo
[00:13] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: After knowing about the existance of sudo -i, setting a root password is an even more bad idea.
[00:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo is better than root. sudo goes away.
[00:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: in some situations you must. backtrack is run solely as root, for instance, because of the nature of its functions
[00:14] <one> sudo is just a security risk
[00:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: and root isnt? isnt that the very basis of your question, the risk posed by root access?
[00:14] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: thats what sudo is designed for. backtrack is a pretty neat example for a bad design.
[00:14] <bastidrazor> one: you are a funny man
[00:14] <elisa87> what should I install to overcome this error?> regex.hpp: No such file or directory
[00:14] <anony> s
[00:15] <one> sudo just gives a user root access which may be running exploitable programs
[00:15] <one> sudo just gives all memory exploits root
[00:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> and root doesn't?
[00:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: are you high?
[00:15] <one> if root isnt running them then no
[00:15] <anony> root is like admin in windows
[00:16] <one> look at top
[00:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: I can do anything root can with sudo
[00:16] <trism> elisa87: libboost1.49-dev or possibly an earlier version if you aren't on 12.10
[00:16] <bastidrazor> i feel the troll
[00:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: you gotta be high or ignorant.
[00:16] <elisa87> trism I am using 12.04 which version should I install? using sudo apt-get or another method?
[00:16] <one> anything in top can have an exploit so giving sudo to the user running most of the processes just makes it more vulnerable
[00:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: and again full root access is the very same!
[00:17] <elisa87> trism: E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libboost1.49-dev'
[00:17] <trism> elisa87: apt-cache search -n boost dev; and see what versions you have
[00:17] <one> ntzrmtthihu777: but im not running everything as root
[00:17] <Random832> are there any SIMPLE (not gimp) paint programs I can use to crop a screenshot?
[00:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> Random832: yes, imagemagick
[00:18] <Random832> simple and interactive
[00:18] <dakotawulfy>  Random832 pinta
[00:18] <Random832> or tell me how to use imagemagick that will let me do it interactively
[00:18] <VanessaE> fixed my problem finally.  Can someone please add this link to an appropriate wiki or whatever?
[00:18] <kalenjohnson> Random832, there are some web apps that are real simple
[00:18] <VanessaE> http://askubuntu.com/questions/110026/how-do-i-finetune-subpixel-font-anti-aliasing
[00:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> as in with point and click?
[00:18] <Random832> gpaint and rgbpaint both don't have crop tools
[00:18] <VanessaE> THIS was my problem.
[00:18] <Random832> ntzrmtthihu777: yes
[00:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> then nope
[00:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> Random832: what part are you trying to crop out of a screenshot?
[00:20] <MonkeyAssface123> Hello.
[00:20] <escott> elisa87, libboost-regex1.49.0
[00:21] <escott> elisa87, so just apt-get install libboost-regex
[00:21] <VanessaE> anyway, one last question:
[00:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> VanessaE: yes?
[00:22] <dakotawulfy>  Random832 try pinta
[00:22] <dakotawulfy>   Random832 it is easy
[00:22] <VanessaE> When I re-installed today, I noticed there were four fglrx options now.  one experimental, one experimental and marked as beta, one normal (this is what I am using now), and one for post-release updates.
[00:23] <VanessaE> which one should I really be using?
[00:23] <dr_willis> whatever one  works for you
[00:24] <dr_willis> normal -> post ->  experimental -> exp Beta.
[00:24] <dr_willis> I think is the order of 'age/version'
[00:24] <VanessaE> well what I mean is, is there a point to trying the others?  What should I expect from it?  breakage?  car wrecks?  dogs and cats living together?
[00:25] <dr_willis> better preformance/support for newer hardware, vs chance of breaking
[00:26] <faruk> so when is 13.04 Beta 1 coming out?
[00:26] <gynna> http://www.reddit.com/r/AdultDating18/comments/19t7e6/sexi_and_thick_snow_bunny_atlantaga_airport/
[00:26] <dr_willis> !schedule
[00:26] <haryv> gynna, just tell us what it is
[00:27] <dr_willis> better that he dosent.. ;) sounds OT to me.
[00:28] <faruk> thanks ubottu!
[00:28] <grus> How can I test to see if my onboard graphics can use bloom lighting effect?
[00:29] <Madkiss> Cheers.
[00:30] <Madkiss> So do we have 13.04?
[00:30] <dr_willis> Madkiss:  Huh?
[00:30] <dr_willis> 13.04 exists.. in testing stages..
[00:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> not till 13 -04
[00:30] <VanessaE> hm, looks like all of the improvements are geared toward the 7000-series.  I have an HD6870.
[00:30] <dr_willis> people never noticce the version # is the date of release
[00:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, well I
[00:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, well I'm relatively new to ubuntu, have only seen one new release, quantal
[00:31] <dakotawulfy> dr_willis cool never realized that
[00:31] <elisa87> I installed boost but I am receiving this error: /usr/bin/ld: error: cannot find -lboost_regex
[00:32] <Madkiss> I am just asking because my ubuntu offered me to "Update to the new Release 13.04" like 15 minutes ago.
[00:33] <trism> elisa87: you'll probably need the dev version of the boost library escott mentioned too, in either the 1.46 or 1.48 version (whatever you picked)
[00:34] <trism> elisa87: libboost-regex-*
[00:34] <kn800> Hello all, got an ATi card and trying to deal with the terrible drivers - How does one get the Dual desktops to work?
[00:34] <elisa87> trism what should I do right now?
[00:34] <haryv> dont see x-term in ubunto
[00:34] <haryv> on the desktop
[00:35] <LaserShark> kn800, i had the same problem
[00:35] <LaserShark> whats your card
[00:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: you want to use xterm?
[00:35] <kn800> LaserShark: did you solve it? It's a 7950
[00:36] <kn800> I regret this card immensely, wish I'd stuck with Nvidia now.
[00:36] <LaserShark> ok, mine's a good deal older
[00:36] <LaserShark> but
[00:36] <trism> elisa87: install it? apt-cache search -n boost regex dev; find the version you need
[00:36] <kn800> LaserShark: any information is helpful hahaha
[00:36] <LaserShark> the exact way i fixed it was i got totally fed up and decided to throw out a monitor because i couldn't deal with this shit
[00:36] <LaserShark> the next morning i woke up booted up the desktop
[00:37] <LaserShark> and voila
[00:37] <LaserShark> i still have no idea how i fixed it
[00:37] <kn800> LaserShark: I hate you hahaha
[00:37] <elisa87> trism jalal@dfyhs5l1:~/gem5-gpu/gpgpu-sim-complete/v3.x$  apt-cache search -n boost regex dev
[00:37] <elisa87> libboost-regex1.46-dev - regular expression library for C++
[00:37] <elisa87> libboost-regex-dev - regular expression library for C++ (default version)
[00:37] <elisa87> libboost-regex1.48-dev - regular expression library for C++
[00:37] <FloodBot1> elisa87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:37] <LaserShark> kn800, haha
[00:37] <LaserShark> all i remember is i installed and uninstalled the propietary drivers a bunch of times
[00:38] <LaserShark> it's a 5670
[00:38] <trism> elisa87: I don't know which version of boost you decided on earlier
[00:39] <lotus-blade> Just upgraded and now have no inet. Any ideas?
[00:40] <fckinCommand> Hi/Salut
[00:40] <Negron> gola
[00:40] <Negron> hola
[00:40] <Negron> español
[00:41] <h00k> !es | Negron
[00:42] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 well i have ubuntu grub back and can boot ubuntu fine now but i cant get android to show
[00:42] <Bray90820> i tried sudo update-grub while it was mounted
[00:43] <Bray90820> i should note tho i can only mount it with disk utility
[00:43] <elisa87> trism that error is fixed now I have this one: /usr/bin/ld: error: cannot find -lboost_filesystem
[00:44] <Negron> hola
[00:44] <Negron> español
[00:44] <trism> elisa87: they will all be the same sort of fix, libboost-something-version-dev
[00:44] <Negron> hello
[00:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: well you could always manually edit /etc/grub.d/grub.cfg and add a menu for android
[00:44] <Negron> español
[00:44] <escott> elisa87, you may just want to apt-get install libboost-*-dev
[00:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> !es | Negron
[00:44] <trism> elisa87: there is also a libboost-version-all-dev if you just want to grab everything and not search
[00:44] <Negron> hola
[00:44] <Bray90820> when i tried sudo mount /dev/sda3 it says can't find /dev/sda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[00:44] <Negron> español
[00:44] <dakotawulfy>  ntzrmtthihu777 would boot repair work for him???
[00:44] <Negron> alguiev
[00:44] <escott> !es | Negron
[00:45] <Negron> hola
[00:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> dakotawulfy: just talked about that.
[00:45] <Negron> hablan español
[00:45] <dakotawulfy> sorry
[00:45] <dakotawulfy> did not see that
[00:45] <escott> Negron, #ubuntu-es
[00:45] <fckinCommand> Does Anybody can tell me why http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591924/ 'not working ?
[00:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: what version of android
[00:45] <Negron> hola
[00:45] <Negron> español
[00:45] <elisa87> E: Unable to locate package libboost-version-all-dev trism
[00:45] <Negron> hablan español
[00:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: aqui hablemos ingles
[00:45] <trism> elisa87: replacing version with which ever you selected earlier
[00:45] <Negron> :( donde puedo hablar cpn gente
[00:45] <Negron> en español
[00:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: en #ubuntu-es hablamos espanol
[00:46] <Bray90820> 4.0.4
[00:46] <Negron> donde puedo hablar cn gente en español
[00:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: en #ubuntu-es hablamos espanol
[00:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: escribir /join #ubuntu-es y pressame entro
[00:46] <Negron> ok
[00:48] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 it's 4.0.4
[00:48] <haryv> did my comment get passed up?
[00:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: what comment
[00:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: gotcha, one sec
[00:48] <Bray90820> ok
[00:48] <haryv> xterm is not on the desktop
[00:49] <haryv> some kind of command line window
[00:49] <haryv> new ubuntu install not seeing it
[00:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: you want command line?
[00:49] <haryv> yes
[00:49] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 the actuall name for the iso is android x86 4.0 RC2
[00:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: press ctrl+alt+t
[00:49] <Casonade> Hello, I am a new Ubuntu 12.04 LTS User.  I would like to get some help on executing the rc.local file on startup.
[00:50] <haryv> thanks!
[00:50] <haryv> xterm should be part of desktop :)
[00:50] <Casonade> Can anyone help me?
[00:50] <elisa87> how can I search for a file in entire system?  ./tau.conf
[00:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: you want a shortcut on desktop
[00:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | Casonade
[00:51] <Casonade> No, it is more specific.
[00:51] <Casonade> I can explain it to you, if you want.
[00:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> Casonade: give the whole question at once.
[00:51] <haryv> nt, yes. If I recall, last time doing a rght click on desktop gave menu for shortcuts. Do not see it in this install
[00:51] <Casonade> Okay.
[00:51] <haryv> ntzrmtthihu777,  yes
[00:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: sudo cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop ~/Desktop/gnome-terminal.desktop
[00:52] <escott> Casonade, rc.local is executed on boot
[00:52] <escott> elisa87, either locate or find
[00:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: I gotcha: http://android-x86.sceners.org/en/?p=270
[00:54] <Casonade> I ran Powertop and followed the suggestion to enhance battery life on my laptop using "sudo powertop-1.13" menu, but loosing settings on reboot.  I tried to add the suggestions' script lines on /etc/rc.local and executed with "sudo chmod 755 /etc/rc.local" but it doesn't do anything on reboot.
[00:54] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i already saw that but that's for RC1
[00:54] <Bray90820> i am running RC2
[00:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: did you not read it? you can change that.
[00:54] <Bray90820> i will have a look
[00:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> "If you haven’t installed Android-x86 4.0 RC1 but some other version, replace the lines containing “android-4.0-RC1″ with your version."
[00:55] <haryv> ntzrmtthihu777,  missing destination file operand after
[00:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: what did you exactly type
[00:56] <haryv> hold, let me download a chat app on ubuntu im on my windows laptop
[00:56] <Negron> these
[00:56] <Negron> ??
[00:56] <dr_willis> Casonade: you did put the commands befor the   exit   statement in rc.local?
[00:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: that would be xchat or irssi
[00:57] <haryv> thats what i use
[00:57] <Casonade> @dr_willis:  before "exit 0", Yes sir!
[00:57] <Negron> no entiendo
[00:57] <dr_willis> Casonade:  and the exact line you added was?
[00:57] <Casonade> I will paste it here, hold on.
[00:57] <Negron> esto es una pc escolar de venezuela
[00:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: no vas a #ubuntu-es?
[00:58] <dakotawulfy> Casonade this page tells u how to do what u want http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/install-powertop-21-in-ubuntu-1204.html
[00:58] <haryv> ugg do not recall why ubunto was not asking for root password during setup. have to boot into single user mode to reset it. hold
[00:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: oh, no espanol, pourtuguise?
[00:58] <Casonade> #!/bin/sh -e # # rc.local # # This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel. # Make sure that the script will "exit 0" on success or any other # value on error. # # In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution # bits. # # By default this script does nothing.  echo 2 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness  echo 1500 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs  echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/
[00:58] <Negron> español
[00:58] <Negron> español
[00:58] <Casonade> Oh no.
[00:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: you don't need a root password
[00:58] <haryv> su password not working
[00:58] <Negron> quien entrar un lugar que hablen español
[00:59] <Negron> quiero entrar en un lugar qe hablen español
[00:59] <Casonade> echo 1500 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs
[00:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: yo digo a ti, va a #ubuntu-es
[00:59] <escott> Casonade, paste.ubuntu.com will be easier to read
[01:00] <jrib> !sudo | haryv
[01:00] <ydoisayyes> Quickie~ What is the fastest way to copy data from one partition to another on the same device? Both are ntfs if it matters. I don't care if the copy is bootable, I would like specific file access after copy though so I am trying to avoid something like clonezilla. I am unsure of my dd skills.
[01:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: use sudo
[01:00] <haryv> password for sudo not working
[01:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> ydoisayyes: I think you would hafta use dd
[01:00] <jrib> haryv: you're using your user's password?
[01:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> dd if=/dev/sda1 pf=/dev/sda2, replace with your values
[01:01] <haryv> yes
[01:01] <jrib> haryv: what is the output of « groups »?
[01:01] <escott> haryv, what is the output of "groups"
[01:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> ydoisayyes: oops, of=
[01:01] <Casonade> There is one little concern: "Suggestion: Enable Device Power Management by pressing the P key" is listed on powertop.log but I do not know how to put a script for that in rc.local
[01:01] <joshlegs> i hurd there's drama in these parts
[01:01] <ydoisayyes> ntzrmtthihu777: ok thats what I thought but dd scares me.
[01:01] <haryv> im at the shell prompt
[01:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> ydoisayyes: don't be afriaid, its usefull
[01:02] <5EXAAITZZ> fixed the problem.  stupid dnsmasq
[01:02] <haryv> groups says root
[01:02] <LFLKSJS> anyone know of any chat room for renewable energy?
[01:02] <escott> haryv, only root is a member of the root group
[01:02] <LFLKSJS> chatrooms*
[01:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> LFLKSJS: no, but I like the subject
[01:02] <dr_willis> !alis > LFLKSJS
[01:02] <escott> haryv, ie you should only see "root" mentioned inf you already ran sudo -i
[01:03] <escott> haryv, try "whoami"
[01:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> !alis > ntzrmtthihu777
[01:03] <Casonade> @Dr. WIllis:  Are you still there?
[01:03] <haryv> root
[01:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: that's damn cool
[01:03] <dr_willis> no one ever actually reads the bots messages....
[01:03] <haryv> not sure why su did not except my password unlike booting into single user mode
[01:03] <escott> well the bot is dead
[01:03] <one> good job root
[01:03] <dr_willis> Casonade:  @ is for twitter not irc....
[01:03] <LFLKSJS> anyone into making homemade things?
[01:04] <escott> haryv, su does not work on ubuntu systems. you are already root so sudo is pointless
[01:04] <LFLKSJS> i.e. engineering type gadgetry?
[01:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> LFLKSJS: did you not see the bot
[01:04] <escott> or rather the bot is back, resurrected from the dead
[01:04] <jrib> haryv: if you read the documentation ubottu sent you it may clear some up some of your doubts
[01:04] <Casonade> Hello?
[01:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> LFLKSJS: did you not see the bot's message? cool things you speak of, but not the place for them
[01:05] <LFLKSJS> sorry
[01:05] <LFLKSJS> thanks for the info
[01:05] <Casonade> I don't use Twitter, so I don't know, anyway, is there anything else you need?
[01:08] <dr_willis> Casonade:  we just needed the ONE line.. and it would be betst if you just read that guide someome mentioned.. it will know more then i do on the topic
[01:08] <Negron> español
[01:08] <ydoisayyes> ntzrmtthihu777: should the partitions be mounted or unmouted?
[01:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> unmounted, I believe. if they are mounted they become a directory tree and cannot be dd'd
[01:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: nosotros no hablamos espanol aqui
[01:09] <dr_willis> you dont want to image a mounted filesystem..
[01:10] <maxped> i need to copy a link from lynx browser. only problem is the link exceeds the amount that can be printed on the screen, too long. any ideas on how to copy the link?
[01:10] <Casonade> Bah.
[01:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: are you in pure cli or inside a terminal window?
[01:11] <dr_willis> the tinyurl type sites can help  with long link issues
[01:12] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: well......ssh over putty, so pure cli. no gui on my box
[01:12] <dr_willis> save the page with the link to a file. cut it from the file perhaps.
[01:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, that is tricky.
[01:12] <dr_willis> putty dosent have a open link feature?  to open it on a local browser?
[01:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: yeah, curl the source, sed the " into \n, and then grep out the url
[01:13] <haryv> which desktop theme in unbuntu uses the least amount of cpus?
[01:13] <Madkiss> ahum. so now I updated to 13.04-rc and my bluetooth is gone, i.e. i can't enable it from within KDE
[01:13] <dr_willis> haryv:  i doubt if it matters much. since compiz is using more then what the themes will
[01:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: the one that isnt unity
[01:14] <dr_willis> Madkiss:  #ubuntu+1 for 13.04
[01:14] <maxped> dr_willis: putty doesnt see the link
[01:14] <haryv> trying ti ID what is making this new install a bit slow. What option in TOP dhows what process is gobling up cpu' cycles?
[01:15] <dr_willis> maxped:  top sorts by cpu ussage by default i belive
[01:15] <subcool> anyone please- http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591971
[01:15] <Intergage> Hey guys, if I install iscsitarget onto a clean xbuntu machine, will I be able to get my ESX servers to see and connect to them the same as the OpenFiler machine I currently have doing it?
[01:15] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: the only thing i recognize is grep lol. i will have to google the rest...thanks for the help
[01:15] <dr_willis> maxped:  htop is a bit nicer then top - easier to read.
[01:15] <haryv> aptd is gobbling up 53 % wow
[01:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> its easy, max
[01:16] <subcool> im trying to use boot-repair to fix my boot. But- i keep running into package manager issues..
[01:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: curl -s "url" | sed 's|"|\n|g' | grep "target link"
[01:16] <maxped> dr_willis: not sure how we got on that topic
[01:16] <dr_willis> subcool:  havent tried that boot-repair cd  yet eh?
[01:16] <selena2013> use boot repair
[01:16] <dakotawulfy> subcool did u add the repos???
[01:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> selena2013: he did, thats where the paste came from
[01:17] <selena2013> o sorry
[01:17] <haryv> update-apt-xapi 95% in top?????
[01:17] <haryv> what is this process?
[01:17] <Intergage> Anyone worked with ESX servers before?
[01:17] <subcool> dr_willis, lol - nope.
[01:18] <doomlord> does ubuntu run ok on the chromebook pixel
[01:18] <dakotawulfy> subcool https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:18] <dr_willis> subcool:  i mnetione dit yesterday. theres a link on the ubuntu boot repair wiki page. its a 32/64 bit (dual version)  live cd - just for running boot-repair
[01:18] <subcool> dr_willis, i reinstall freshly my livecd. this is baby fresh. - dakotawulfy yea- that its installed. when i run the program it errors with an open packagemanager.
[01:18] <subcool> dr_willis, yea- i know.. thats next on my list of things to do...
[01:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: curl -s "url" | sed 's|"|\n|g' | grep "target link" > text.txt
[01:19] <subcool> dr_willis, im going to setup a dual boot with yumi...
[01:19] <subcool> after this..
[01:19] <subcool> lol
[01:19] <selena2013> yea there is a guide , you have to use the remix for 64bits
[01:19] <dr_willis> subcool:  Hmm.. that dosent make sence.
[01:19] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i ALMOST have it
[01:19] <subcool> exactly :/
[01:20] <dr_willis> I got boot-repair installed on  my 12.10 system with  no issues.. so not sure what your apt issues are about
[01:20] <Bray90820> but when i try to load android from grub it is saying error you need to load the kernel firat
[01:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: see? I use a similar technique to load an iso
[01:20] <Bray90820> so do you know how i would fix it?
[01:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: pastebin your 40_custom
[01:20] <subcool> dr_willis, i have it on my 12.04 - fresh. - when i run the program, it goes to fix everything. Then pops up with a :close paackage manager and try again"
[01:20] <Bray90820> ok
[01:21] <dr_willis> subcool:  perhaps its heking for newer versions of itself..
[01:21] <dr_willis> checking
[01:21] <dr_willis> it may have an option to not do that.
[01:21] <subcool> dr_willis, im opening the app again now.
[01:22] <dr_willis> i rarely actually need to RUN the boot-repair tool. ;)
[01:22] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks for the syntax but i dont want to just copy paste. i will need to do the research to learn what i am doing. for now i suppose i can use a gui on another system to accomplish my orignal task until my command line skills get better.
[01:22] <dr_willis> I just have it installed just in case.
[01:22] <Seven_Six_Two> I thought that I was getting EM interference, causing my sound to crackle, but that's not it. Playing a flash video (the same song as a FLAC that I was playing) has no crackle, but both mp3 and flac (audacious and totem) have the crackling sound. Any ideas why? Nothing on my pc has changed, and it certainly hasn't always done this.
[01:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: exactly why do you need it?
[01:22] <dr_willis> bbl
[01:23] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: to copy long random character string url into other app
[01:23] <Seven_Six_Two> I've played with all of my sound options, and ensured that I'm not running anything else, and audacious isn't using too much cpu.
[01:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, you could, instead of the > text.txt, pass it into the next part with |
[01:25] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: true, but im sure your other idea will work, i just want to make sure i know what i am doing.
[01:25] <Seven_Six_Two> the crackle is on all 5.1 speakers, and only while music is playing in audacious, totem. VLC doesn't do it. neither does flash.
[01:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: lol, true. its an easy trick really. curl -s pulls the source of a page, which would include the links, sed 's|"|\n|g' replaces " with newlines, and grep you know.
[01:27] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: manpage says curl -s makes curl silent
[01:28] <subcool> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/03/07/snapshot1.png
[01:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: yup, curl snatches the source, but -s makes it do it invisibly, you don't want the source for a page streaming across your tty
[01:28] <subcool> dr_willis, ^^
[01:29] <haryv> is there a graphical window to disable services that are running in memory?
[01:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: gnome-system-monitor
[01:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: like task manager in win$
[01:30] <haryv> yes,,,it working now
[01:30] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=uj4Qnm7a
[01:31] <Bray90820> it might take a few minutes to load tho because pastebin is over capacity
[01:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: holy crap
[01:31] <dsr> anyone know why 'vgchange -a n test' doesn't deactivate all the LVs in test? After the vgchange I run lvscan and all the LVs show as active
[01:31] <Bray90820> lol
[01:31] <haryv> why i get the feeling compwiz is imprtant
[01:32] <dr_willis> compiz is the window manager used by unity
[01:32] <haryv> well, mistale for killing it :)
[01:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: epic. fail.
[01:32] <haryv> lol
[01:33] <dr_willis> killing init would be epic
[01:33] <dr_willis> killing compiz is trivial. ;)
[01:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I can uninstall compiz if I only use gnome-fallback, right?
[01:34] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  i suggest leaveing it alone
[01:34] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, no reason uninstall unless you are out of disk space
[01:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: escott: I set a 16gb root, plenty of space but I wanna keep it that way
[01:38] <aartist> My mouse has jammed Ubuntu:12.04
[01:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: still not loading
[01:38] <subcool> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/03/07/snapshot1.png dr_willis
[01:38] <Bray90820> LOL
[01:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: ubuntu has its own paste, try that one
[01:38] <haryv> compwiz should be called killthiscrashdesktop
[01:38] <dsr> anyone have experience configuring LVM? I have a stupid question
[01:38] <Bray90820> didn't i already send you the pastebin?
[01:39] <Bray90820> here it is again
[01:39] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=uj4Qnm7a
[01:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: yes, but its not loading. ubuntu has its own one, and it may not be overloaded
[01:39] <haryv> to bad there wasnt a script that can shut down non essensial services
[01:39] <Taev> can some one tell me why when i click restart, my ubuntu install hangs on boot, but when i shut down, and power up. it boots
[01:39] <jrib> dsr: it's general irc etiquette to just ask the question and find out
[01:39] <Bray90820> how about i send it to you as a txt
[01:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> doable
[01:41] <Bray90820> so a txt file is ok?
[01:41] <dsr> why does vgchange -a n or lvchange -a n seem to have no effect even though the command runs successfully
[01:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: its cool, /q me. I don't want my email in open irc (not that I don't trust you guys)
[01:42] <Bray90820> im just going to send you a dropbox link
[01:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: that works too
[01:43] <Bray90820> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33402675/Untitled%20Document%202.txt
[01:43] <dr_willis> haryv:  you are thinking in wondows terms/mindset... you really  dont need to worry about succh things for the most part
[01:44] <dr_willis> haryv:  the biggest threat to a linux system i find.. is the admin/root user, doing silly  things.. ;)
[01:44] <haryv> yes true
[01:44] <haryv> btw, thanks guys for responding to my questions. Shows how much people care about asnwering questions ..even if they seem inoculous :)
[01:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: try changing it to android-x86-4.0.4-rc2 ; is this on the same machine we are communicating with?
[01:45] <haryv> I had to use a pry-bar to get the guys in windows-server to answer anything.
[01:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: thats win$ for you
[01:46] <Bray90820> it is not
[01:46] <haryv> mabey just the attitudes of the guys there. I finally ruffled there feathers when I said employers here do not care as much about as experiance as cirts and experiance.
[01:46] <dr_willis> they are all too busy admining  their macchines to cchit cchat. ;)
[01:46] <haryv> yes true
[01:46] <hero100> I can connect my laptop to my room mate's laptop via wireless network in windows, but cannot do it in linux. what's the problem?
[01:46] <wubino> whats going in bitcoin that they are #9 most crowded irc room?
[01:46] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 it is not
[01:46] <haryv> to a point :)
[01:46] <Seven_Six_Two> amarok is also clicking and popping. I just listened to the flac on my pmp, and it's not the file.
[01:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: k. Please use my nick when you address me, as the chat moves quickly and I am doing alot, so I need the extra visual cue
[01:47] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i will from now on
[01:47] <Seven_Six_Two> there is something that is done by audacious, amarok, totem, that isn't being done by vlc and flash.
[01:47] <hero100> when I ping, it says my own host destination unreachable
[01:47] <haryv> stay far far away from bitcoin. Bitcoin is or will be exploited by organized crime!!!
[01:47] <aartist> my mouse is jammed and i see this problem often. I end up in rebooting computer is there an alternative solution?
[01:48] <ryebread761> haryv I thought bitcoin was supposed to be pretty secure?
[01:48] <haryv> get a new mouse
[01:48] <smokey1> hey all
[01:48] <dr_willis> aartist:  ssh in, and restart the X server perhaps. ;)
[01:48] <haryv> nooo there is no tracability of the transations. that is what makes it so attractive to criminals
[01:48] <smokey1> any one that could be of help today
[01:48] <Curs0r> Patty the bitcoin hooker doesn't like a paper trail
[01:48] <ryebread761> oh
[01:48] <haryv> Once terrorist know about bitcoin, I am assured they will use it.
[01:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> smokey1: we cant tell you that till you ask your question !ask | smokey1
[01:49] <haryv> FBI is looking into bitcoin
[01:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | smokey1
[01:49] <aartist> dr_willis: I have single computer and I am on it. , what I should do? I have my keyboard fully working and I can go to browser, terminal, emacs etc..
[01:50] <dr_willis> aartist:  if its just the moust freezing.  you can try to restart the X server via the terminal  'sudo servicec lightdm restart'
[01:50] <dr_willis> aartist:  you  could also try unplug/repluging in the mouse
[01:50] <haryv> CIA NSA and FBI use powerfull servers to scan over all the transactions from and two countries looking for clues on the funding of organized crime.
[01:51] <usr13> dr_willis: aartist That's "service"  not  "servicec"
[01:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: I think the problem is the original page had a typo, maybe. try replacing root=/dev/ram0 with boot=/dev/ram0
[01:51] <dr_willis> haryv:  lovely... and Off topic..
[01:51] <Bray90820> well i maniged to get the loading kernal thing resloved
[01:51] <smokey1>  does any hear use navi x my everytime i play a movie through the server the video and audio go out of sync does not play movie all the way throw without skipping at all hope some one can help
[01:51] <Bray90820> but it still says file not found
[01:51] <Bray90820> then reboots
[01:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> file not found, which one? any other info?
[01:52] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 there is no other info
[01:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> k
[01:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: did you see my earlier suggestion regarding boot/root?
[01:53] <Bray90820> im looking at it noe
[01:53] <Bray90820> now
[01:53] <AndreiHk`> http://chat.underirc.eu/
[01:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: can you give me a link to the iso? If I could peek at it myself I could maybe help
[01:56] <AndreiHk`> http://chat.underirc.eu/
[01:56] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 http://www.android-x86.org/download i downloaded this one android-x86-4.0-RC2-tegav2.iso
[01:57] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 thank you by the way
[01:57] <dr_willis> isent the tegav2 for a specific cchipset/mahine?
[01:57] <elisa87> Are you aware of any package/tool that can extract the CFG(flow graph) of a (CUDA) code?
[01:57] <elisa87> Are you aware of any package/tool that can extract the CFG(flow graph) of a (CUDA) code?
[01:59] <puraki> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2122670 that is my problem
[02:01] <toasty_> does anyone know of a ppa for rvm?
[02:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> toasty_: ruby version manager? no, but you can add it with the instructions on the site
[02:01] <puraki> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2122670
[02:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | puraki
[02:02] <brightspark> toasty_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/128966/how-do-i-install-ruby-rvm
[02:02] <dr_willis> there are ppa searh sites/tools
[02:03] <dr_willis> searcch
[02:03] <dr_willis> !ppa
[02:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: downloading the iso now
[02:03] <Apes> !addppa
[02:03] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 thank you
[02:03] <Apes> Don't you need a package to run that command?
[02:04] <usr13> puraki: So you un-installed pulseaudio and it did not change anything?  (Still quits working after certain length of time?)
[02:05] <puraki> No, my problem is
[02:05] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks for your help, still not entirley sure what i (you) did, but i got what i needed  and learned more about the power of linux.
[02:05] <puraki> that the dash doesn't fade in
[02:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: its simple man. curl you know, right?
[02:06] <puraki> The problem is occuring on an Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS 32-bit system on VirtualBox 4.1.16 on Windows 7 64-bit
[02:06] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: curl i picked up pretty quick, sed im getting, just hard remebering when to use what and what options to use.
[02:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> puraki: again, you cannot expect full performance under a virtualbox under win$
[02:07] <dr_willis> puraki:  virtualbox has issues with unity due to 3d driver supports. you may  be using Unity2d by default that does not have all the fancy eye candy effects
[02:07] <aaron_> Why woul anyone want to use virtualbox under windows?
[02:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: sed and awk are by far two of the most usefull commands to learn
[02:07] <puraki> I am using Unity 3D
[02:07] <dr_willis> aaron_:  to have a little linux system to use for real work. ;)
[02:07] <puraki> not 2D
[02:08] <dr_willis> puraki:  how are you sure of that?
[02:09] <puraki> Because I checked on the login screen
[02:09] <aaron_> dr_willis: I haven't touched windows quite literally in years, guess Im one of the lucky ones :)
[02:09] <puraki> I clicked the little ubuntu icon
[02:09] <puraki> and selected Ubuntu, not Ubuntu 2D
[02:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> aaron_: I just completely got rid of win$ on my machines
[02:09] <dr_willis> puraki:  thats not proof.. If the 3d drivers are not found.. the system Can default to unity-2d i reccall..
[02:10] <dr_willis> try selecting unity 2d and see if it works the same
[02:10] <puraki> ok
[02:10]  * dr_willis wonders why it really matters
[02:10]  * ntzrmtthihu777 thinks its because win$ gotta have flash over performance
[02:10] <dsr> how do I deactivate a logical volume or a volume group? vgchange -an test doesn't do anything
[02:10] <dr_willis> i normally  use Lubuntu in vbox
[02:11] <puraki> Same thing happens
[02:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> puraki: thin in that case it is defaulting to 2d ike he said.
[02:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> puraki: and I repeat: you cannot expect to get full performance under vbox under win$
[02:13] <dr_willis> i normally  use Lubuntu in vbox.....
[02:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> never got the answer to my question, only opinions. can I remove compiz if I only boot gnome-fallback
[02:15] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  best to leave it alone..
[02:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: not my question.
[02:15] <dr_willis> your space saveing will be minimal. and chance of breakeing somthhing  is  there.
[02:15] <dr_willis> go for it and see if you really  want to
[02:16] <usr13> dr_willis: I suppose he can re-install compiz if something turns out to be broken.  Right?
[02:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> I don't see how anything can break as compiz is never used
[02:16] <usr13> ... reinstalling will more-than-likely fix what ever gets broken.
[02:17] <usr13> I don't ever uninstall compiz so I don't really know.
[02:18] <usr13> ... But it does make sense to uninstall compiz if you never intend to use it...
[02:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> :/ ubuntu-tweak depends on it
[02:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> so if I uninstall compiz it will take out ubuntu-tweak, and installing that will reinstall compiz?
[02:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> I really wish they would add support for other locations in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[02:25] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, like what?
[02:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> ~/Dropbox, for one
[02:26] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, you can put whatever you want in there
[02:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: apparently you have not looked into how it works much.
[02:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> you can add anything to it, but it won't do much good
[02:27] <puraki> http://prntscr.com/vbgiq with Unity 3D | http://prntscr.com/vbgt2 with Unity 2D
[02:27] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, what would  you expect it to do though?
[02:28] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, its just a way to localize certain folder names. nothing else
[02:28] <puraki> The dash looks darker in Unity 2D than in Unity 3D.
[02:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: kinda silly, and more or less aethetic, but I hate that I have to add ~/Dropbox and ~/Ubuntu\ One to bookmarks, and they don't get added into the "computer" section of nautilus or the gnome2 places menu
[02:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: I actually have my ~/Dropbox set up in place of ~/Public so that at least works right, but what about Ubuntu One?
[02:30] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, any reason it cannot be the same?
[02:30] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, you have to be careful because public implies a folder that should be shared by things like samba
[02:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: I sacrificed ~/Public (which I never use) for dropbox, but there are no other folders to sacrifice.
[02:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: I don't use samba, no win$ boxes to share with
[02:31] <dr_willis> ~/CloudJunk
[02:31] <phoney7> I am trying to follow the instructions here http://aperiodic.net/screen/faq#when_i_split_the_display_and_then_detach_screen_forgets_the_split but I can't detach the session.
[02:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: no, then they would likely sync together wasting even more cloud space.
[02:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> puraki: what did you use to take these screenies, a win$ program or ubuntu?
[02:32] <dr_willis> I wonder if theres a fuse tool to merge all my cloud storage into one bigger storage. ;)
[02:33] <Seven_Six_Two> dr_willis, that would be awesome. lvm for fuse.
[02:33] <puraki> lightshot
[02:33] <puraki> on windows
[02:33] <dr_willis> only thing i really  keep on the cloud are my wallpaper images  and comic book files.. in case i want to read them from my phone.
[02:33] <Seven_Six_Two> That's where I keep all my ultra-secret spy passwords.
[02:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: ah so only little things. I back up gb's worth of stuff to the cloud, so I need it to be frugal
[02:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: but in particular ~/Dropbox and ~/Ubuntu\ One
[02:35] <dr_willis> so far the neat est use of the  'cloud' i saw was to keep Digital books on  via  Calibre - but then aparently  that started getting banned/books deleted. ;(
[02:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, really?
[02:35] <dr_willis> I find the Space in 'Ubuntu One' to be a bit annoying. ;)
[02:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: As do I, I am using a terminal client so it escapes it :/
[02:36] <dr_willis> Yea. lifehacker had an artical on keeping your Calibre book library on dropbox in the public dir (or somthing) to let you read your books from othe rdevices..  then Dropbox aparently  started removeing peoples libraries.
[02:36] <Seven_Six_Two> I only store a truecrypt container on dropbox.
[02:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: waittaminute, dammit I've been doing that!
[02:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: gnome-fallback does not use gnome3, right?
[02:37] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  ive not really done it to the  extent the Lifehacker site was showing. I just keep a few books/cbr files oon mine.
[02:37] <dr_willis> I dont use gnome fallback.. but i would say  YES it does use gnome3
[02:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: cbr == <3
[02:37] <boldfilter> It does
[02:37] <dr_willis> or at least parts of it.
[02:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: so nifty!
[02:38] <dr_willis> the next gnome 3.8? it supposed to have an actual gnome2 theme or somthing from what ive seen.
[02:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I hope so, I can't stand unity
[02:38] <dr_willis> I perfer gnome-shell  to  the flakey fallback/failsafe/grandfather modes. ;)
[02:38] <dr_willis> unity works fine for me..
[02:38] <dr_willis> 13.04 has some neat features added to it also.
[02:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I'm using a touch-screen pc and I still cant stand it
[02:39] <dr_willis> cant say i have any issues with it..
[02:39] <boldfilter> Its a change
[02:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: true, but we are not the same fella
[02:39] <Seven_Six_Two> I like cinnamon.
[02:39] <dr_willis> i jump around from so many os's and differnt pcs in the course of a day. im used to everything being differnt on each pc
[02:41] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i just realized your hardware is going to be different then mine
[02:42] <dr_willis> too bad that metesse (metisse?) window manager never got popular..
[02:42] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 so you will have to download a different version
[02:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: virtualbox, mate
[02:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> and i just wanted to look inside it anyways
[02:44] <mrrogens> hello
[02:44] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 but still the tegra version prob won't work for you
[02:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: so to match your internals i need the same iso
[02:44] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 so you can emulate my hardware?
[02:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: again, I don't need to. I just wanna unpack it like a .zip
[02:45] <Bray90820> ahh so your not actually installing it?
[02:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> newp, maybe chrooting into it, but thats about it.
[02:45] <Bray90820> well that answers my question :p
[02:46] <Bray90820> carry on
[02:47] <maxped> i watched a video on youtube of awk. can anyone give any examples of how you use it?
[02:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> is anyone aware of a guide for manually doing what usb-creator-gtk or unetbootin does?
[02:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: awk can do so many things its unreal
[02:48] <elisa87> what should I install to be able to see a .mov file?
[02:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: man awk will give you alot of info
[02:49] <escott> elisa87, i would try ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:49] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: the little tut i watched was prtty basic, just trying to get an idea of what others may use it for.
[02:49] <histo> elisa87: vlc is one player or you can install the codec for whatever player you like
[02:49] <histo> !codecs | elisa87
[02:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: wanna see how I used it?
[02:50] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: sure. im game
[02:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ntzrmtthihu777/linutaux
[02:51] <histo> maxped: what is it that you want to do with it?
[02:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get luct
[02:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: he's just learning
[02:55] <maxped> histo: i had issue, ntzrmtthihu777 helped me out with sed, said that i should learn awk too. just curious
[02:55] <tpw_rules> hey. i need help with netatalk
[02:55] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: i guess i'll look at what your providing and trust you're not trying to hose me. ;)
[02:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: its just a text-manipulation script in essense, but has big use in the utau linux community
[02:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> it will install 2 main files plus the documentation. check out /usr/bin/luct
[02:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: whole lotta useful sed and awk there
[02:55] <histo> maxped: tldp.org is a good start for learning
[03:03] <moes> 12.04 full install to usb flash drive ...when booting first window is "out of range cannot display video mode change computer display input to 1600x1200 @ 60 mhz" it times out then boots ??
[03:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> antonio__: again, define morph. do you mean like a fade-in fade-out or like a werewolf morph or what
[03:03] <antonio__> werewolf morph
[03:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> antonio__: not under linux, but win$ had a program called [ph|f]antamorph
[03:03] <Guest703> having an issue with 12.10 just installed nvidia drivers and now the side pane wont show up and windows will not move
[03:03] <Guest703> how can thiws be undone
[03:03] <dr_willis> moes:  grub is using some mode your monitor cant handle. You can edit your /etc/default/grub to tell it to use a differnt mode. or the text menu mode
[03:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: did you try swapping root for boot?
[03:04] <moes> dr_willis..Thanks for the info
[03:04] <Bray90820> i will be back in 20 minutes
[03:04] <antonio__> thanks
[03:05] <dr_willis> Guest703:  does the guest user account work properly? you seem to be haveing some sort of unity/3d driver issues.
[03:05] <will_> also did this sudo update-initramfs -u
[03:06] <Guest31327> along with update nvidia and now things are messed up
[03:06] <Guest31327> how can it be undone
[03:08] <dr_willis> try booting an older kernel from the grub menu Guest31327  - see if it works there.
[03:08] <Ububegin> Any good text to speech software for our video presentations... Something which can generate quite natural sounding voices will be great.. :)
[03:08] <will__> anything yet?
[03:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ububegin: what language?
[03:11] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: are 'cvc', 'vc' and 'romaji', 'kana' variables
[03:11] <maxped> ?
[03:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: yesh
[03:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> they are types of files with different setups
[03:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> actually if you are looking at the conv_cv_vcv(){ sections these are function names
[03:12] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: cool, that will definatley be something to get me started, thanks.
[03:13] <Ububegin> ntzrmtthihu777: English, :)
[03:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: this was my first major bash work. I want to make it pure cli, but as of yet it has a text based menu interface
[03:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ububegin: nevermind then. I was aware of on that did japanese, but you can make it speak "engrish", but thats about it.
[03:16] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 so what were you saying
[03:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: did you try swappint root=/dev with boot=/dev?
[03:17] <Bray90820> what do you mean
[03:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: I mean on the line that says root=/dev/ram0 try boot=
[03:18] <Bray90820> ok
[03:19] <mmnicolas> hello
[03:19] <hossein> Hi, I have a question
[03:20] <hossein> about ubuntu lucid
[03:20] <mmnicolas> do you guys have a social channel ? something like #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[03:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> !EOL | hossein
[03:20] <hossein> can anyone tell me how
[03:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> mmnicolas: exactly that
[03:20] <hossein> to add new repository in lucid
[03:20] <suhaib> so I decided to use a previous kernel, because wireless doesn't work in the new kernel, How can I lock this kernel so that I don't have to select the old kernel from the grub everytime I boot the laptop ?
[03:21] <dr_willis> new repositories for what exactly? hossein
[03:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: lucid is no longer supported officially, but you can find out.
[03:21] <hossein> I will write the path of it
[03:21] <hossein> I am a researcher
[03:21] <hossein> i need to use others software
[03:21] <hossein> this is the website
[03:22] <hossein> http://gmplib.org
[03:22] <dr_willis> its likely you  will need to compile from source hossein
[03:22] <hossein> wow seams so dificult
[03:22] <dr_willis> unless the site specifically mentions they have a ppa for lucid.
[03:22] <hossein> as I am new to ubuntu
[03:22] <dr_willis> You are the one using an out of date release.. i suggest you  upgrade to a newer release
[03:23] <hossein> I cant
[03:23] <hossein> the software which requires this website pacage can only be installed
[03:23] <suhaib> hossein: why ?
[03:23] <hossein> using this
[03:23] <dr_willis> we CAN read more then 3 words on a single line hossein  , no need to hit enter every 3 words...
[03:24] <hossein> I am getting mad :D
[03:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> you would be surprised what you can do on a newer release
[03:24] <hossein> I used 12.10
[03:24] <hossein> but I have to use lucid now
[03:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: try 12.04, its supported for 5 more years
[03:25] <hossein> I cant
[03:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> why not?
[03:25] <hossein> the third party software that I am using is that old that can only work on lucid
[03:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: what does the 3rd party software do
[03:26] <hossein> just let me know how to add this site as a repository in lucid
[03:26] <dr_willis> guess you learn to compile it from source  then.. unless they specifically have a ppa for lucid made up. or packages made for it..
[03:26] <hossein> It is for robotics
[03:26] <dr_willis> hossein:  just because they have a web site does NOT mean they have a ppa for it.
[03:26] <hossein> but the readme file said they have it
[03:27] <OerHeks> hossein, build it youself http://gmplib.org/devel/repo-usage.html
[03:27] <hossein> the software is tested before with their ppa
[03:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: what does it say the ppa is?
[03:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: it should be something like ppa:something/bar
[03:28] <hossein> tell me what deb means
[03:28] <dr_willis> the readme file may  also be quite out of date. and they  may have closed down the ppa
[03:28] <hossein> it does not work in lucid command
[03:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: deb is like a windows installer
[03:28] <dr_willis> !apt | hossein
[03:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: to install a deb you use
[03:28] <puraki> .deb is the file extension for ubuntu packages
[03:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: sudo dpkg -i name_of.deb
[03:29] <NanaHaru>  I have a question about installing Ubuntu onto a bare drive and UEFI...
[03:29] <NanaHaru> Could anyone help?
[03:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> !anyone | NanaHaru
[03:30] <hossein> I just want to add the site as a repository in lucid
[03:30] <hossein> is there any comand base code?
[03:30] <suhaib> !poll
[03:30] <dr_willis> !ppa
[03:30] <dr_willis> !addppa
[03:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: in precise its sudo add-apt-reposritory ppa
[03:31] <hossein> ok let me try it
[03:31] <NanaHaru> Okay, so my new computer will not run Ubuntu. All my hardware should be compatible. I've tried running various version on both CD and USb and it won't go past the "try Ubuntu" without either an error or just stopping.
[03:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> you need the name from the readme
[03:31] <suhaib> !details
[03:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> NanaHaru: you may need to run it in nomodeset
[03:31] <suhaib> !gp
[03:31] <dr_willis> NanaHaru:  what errors?
[03:31] <NanaHaru> How do I run it in nomodeset?
[03:31] <suhaib> !pg
[03:31] <haryv> thinking of dumping ubuntu simply because it was never setup with asterisk in mind.
[03:32] <NanaHaru> I have no OS as of yet and it's UEFI
[03:32] <haryv> or asterisknow
[03:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: what is asterisk
[03:32] <dr_willis> you  can use the nomodeset option from the LIVE cd
[03:32] <NanaHaru> Okay I'll try that now~
[03:32] <haryv> ntzr www.digium.com www.asterisk.com
[03:33] <suhaib> so I decided to use a previous kernel, because wireless doesn't work in the new kernel, How can I lock this version of the kernel so that I don't have to select the old kernel from the grub everytime I boot the laptop ?
[03:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: I'm getting a sale's website
[03:33] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777: i havent tried what you said yeat but i did realize it was still trying to detect RC1 so i fixed that to RC2
[03:33] <suhaib> ntzrmtthihu777: rick rolled ?
[03:33] <Bray90820> and now it says detecting android
[03:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: good
[03:33] <haryv> sales for what
[03:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> stuff of seemingly sporty nature
[03:33] <Bray90820> but it's taking FOREVER to load
[03:34] <dr_willis> suhaib:  remove the other kernel. or  set the default entry in /etc/default/grub
[03:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: what are your machine's specs
[03:34] <NanaHaru> In my Modes option under f4 I only get the options to: "Normal" "Use driver update disc" and OEM install"
[03:34] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-duo/pd
[03:34] <haryv> I sell network installation services. I am a field tech. But...moving away from platforms like fieldnation.com just need some project managers willing to take me on for national store chains.
[03:35] <leptone> has anyone expirenced youtube.com playing videos really fast and the audio is just loud clicking?
[03:35] <NanaHaru> Right now I'm using the Linux_secure ISO in accordance to a UEFI guide I was following
[03:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: well this review sucks
[03:36] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 why
[03:36] <hossein> it says "the command not found!"
[03:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: it does not tell me anything particularly usefull
[03:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: what did you type exactly
[03:36] <suhaib> dr_willis: thanks, so should I change this ? GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
[03:37] <Bray90820> is this better
[03:37] <Bray90820> http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-3487FNT-Convertible-Laptop/dp/B004EWEZM4
[03:37] <hossein> lets do it again
[03:37] <hossein> this is what i typed
[03:37] <hossein> sudo add-get-repository ftp://ftp.gmplib.org
[03:37] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 is this better
[03:37] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777
[03:37] <Bray90820> ooops
[03:38] <suhaib> hossein: why don't you google how to add a ppa ?
[03:38] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-3487FNT-Convertible-Laptop/dp/B004EWEZM4
[03:38] <Bray90820> that one
[03:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: better, thank you
[03:38] <hossein> :D I did it but still got problem
[03:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: that is not the ppa
[03:38] <hossein> ok thanks
[03:38] <tgm4883> hossein, that should be apt-add-repository
[03:38] <Bray90820> :)
[03:38] <hossein> what?
[03:39] <hossein> oh ok
[03:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: no, lol. should be add-apt-repository
[03:39] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, they are the same
[03:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: the website is not the ppa
[03:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: get out, for real?
[03:40] <NanaHaru> So black screen with a whole bunch of white text.... When trying to "Try ubuntu before installing" is good or bad sign? as long as the underscore is blinking it's still loading?
[03:40] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Feb  6 15:14 /usr/bin/apt-add-repository -> add-apt-repository
[03:40] <bean> its add-apt-repository
[03:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: you said the readme has the ppa in it, what does it say
[03:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: no kidding
[03:40] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, bean so either works. but apt-get-repository does not
[03:41] <hossein> now the problem is the site! it said the site is invalid
[03:41] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 prob if i gave it like 30 minutes it would correctly boot
[03:41] <Pici> hossein: The site you listed earlier is not a PPA
[03:41] <s3b`> okay, so I had hdmi working without audio. i added something to alsa-base.conf like someone suggested, and now i don't even get video signal. I deleted the line and still no video signal. ubuntu completely recognizes the tv in both display and sound though
[03:41] <s3b`> How do I begin debugging?
[03:41] <suhaib> NanaHaru: no, it seems you got a problem with the vga card
[03:42] <Swabby> Hello. I'm trying to run dosbox on ubuntu but getting "DirectFB" errors..any idea where i could begin to start to troubleshoot? I've done some googling on the error but haven't really turned up much.
[03:42] <suhaib> NanaHaru: what are the laptop/Pc specs ?
[03:42] <NanaHaru> Oh so if I take out the VGA then I should be able to install?
[03:42] <Ububegin> Hi, got cut off.. Any good text to speech software/ or online pages which can convert paragraphs to wav/mp3 for a video presentation, we are doing in English.. Thanks
[03:42] <rhenzar> Sorry for the random question, but are there any reasons why Ubuntu would simply not work on a computer?
[03:42] <s3b`> Ubuntu 12.10
[03:42] <NanaHaru> Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 Processor: Intel i7 Ivy Brige Graphics Card: NVIDIA EVGA GTX 680 FTW RAM: Vengeance 8Gb HDD: Seagate 1Tb
[03:42] <Ububegin> rhenzar: hardware incompatibility mostly
[03:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chris-lea/gmp
[03:43] <hossein> actually the software needs to download a package from the site but it cannot download it
[03:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: 2 minutes of googling
[03:43] <hossein> ok
[03:43] <rhenzar> Ububegin: See, I built myself a PC with brand-new hardware and I can't run most distros.. Could that be why?
[03:43] <hossein> let me see
[03:43] <hossein> thanks all
[03:44] <rhenzar> Ububegin: Oh, also: only time Linux runs is in Wubi
[03:44] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, err, who is chris-lea? a dev for gmp I hope?
[03:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> wubi == fail
[03:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: it seems to be his, yeah
[03:45] <rhenzar> ntzrmtthihu777: The only reason I use Windows is to run Linux, that is my problem. New hardware I suppose?
[03:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> rhenzar: have you tried a live cd
[03:45] <bsnl> How do you wipe a cd that is re writtable in ubuntu?
[03:45] <Ububegin> rhenzar: hmm,  try the liveCD
[03:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> bsnl: acetoneiso has an option
[03:45] <histo> !uefi | rhenzar
[03:46] <Ububegin> rhenzar: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
[03:46] <usr13> bsnl: I use k3b
[03:46] <Ububegin> Any good text to speech software/ or online pages which can convert paragraphs to wav/mp3 for a video presentation, we are doing in English.. Thanks
[03:46] <histo> !cdrw | bsnl
[03:46] <rhenzar> ntzrmtthihu777: Yeah, I've done everything from Debian/Ubuntu/Mint/Fedora, usually not able to see cursor/screen freaks out, says it can't find the linuz file sometimes...
[03:46] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 could it be that the guide was for grub 2 and i am using 1.99
[03:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: you want the instructions in this page
[03:46] <histo> !good | Ububegin
[03:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: grub2 = 1.99
[03:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: http://gmplib.org/devel/repo-usage.html
[03:47] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 so ubuntu uses grub 2?
[03:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: use
[03:47] <hossein> thanks
[03:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: yes
[03:47] <hossein> I am going to read it
[03:47] <Ububegin> Any natural sounding text to speech software/ or online pages which can convert paragraphs to wav/mp3 for a video presentation, we are doing in English.. Thanks ...
[03:47] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 ok
[03:47] <usr13> bsnl: You can just use cdrecord with option blank=fast
[03:48] <Ububegin> histo: have replaced good with natural sounding .. :)
[03:48] <bcbc2> rhenzar: what do you mean it only runs in wubi - because a wubi install is no different from a normal install (apart from the virtual disk and the boot mechanism)
[03:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: you need to replace TARGDIR with the folder you want
[03:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | Ububegin
[03:48] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 this is taking forever so i am going to try changing root to boot
[03:48] <usr13> bsnl: Example:  cdrecord dev=0,0,0 blank=fast
[03:48] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 it's been going almost 25 minutes
[03:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: cool, but remember where you are in this, lol
[03:48] <histo> Ububegin: You'd have to try the different ones available and see which one sounds "natural" to you; you're asking a very subjective question.
[03:48] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 what do you mean
[03:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: I mean remeber the changes you make so if one breaks the process you know how to fix it
[03:49] <Bray90820> i always make a backup
[03:49] <rhenzar> bcbc2: I will partition my drive and follow guides for dual-boot procedures and the liveCD won't even continue past the opening splash/first few frames. With Wubi, the distro is already installed, but Xubuntu/Lubuntu break after like an hour, default is fine.
[03:49] <histo> !nomodeset | rhenzar
[03:49] <bcbc2> rhenzar: what graphics card do you have
[03:50] <NanaHaru> suhaib so is it my specs?
[03:50] <rhenzar> histo: ?
[03:50] <rhenzar> bcbc2: I just got a radeon 6870, why?
[03:50] <bcbc2> rhenzar: see the nomodeset comment
[03:50] <rhenzar> bcbc2: I'm new to IRC...
[03:50] <histo> rhenzar: you need to use at least 12.04 and 64bit just to avoid the EFI issue. If you are and experiencing blank screens try the nomodeset option specified above.
[03:51] <Injigo> evening!
[03:51] <Guest9947> Hello
[03:51] <bcbc2> rhenzar: some graphics cards don't have open source drivers and won't boot unless you use nomodeset. After installing you can install a closed source driver for them
[03:51] <rhenzar> bcbc2: Okay, but would that still apply if Wubi works completely fine (not talking about the different flavors, those are still buggy for me)
[03:52] <histo> rhenzar: yes wubi is installed inside of the winblows partition booted using windows bootloader
[03:52] <Ububegin> histo: not subjective, some like Speak It ! sound downright robotic...
[03:52] <histo> rhenzar: completely different animal
[03:52] <bcbc2> rhenzar: wubi (with Ubuntu) uses a pre-installed disk image. This bypasses ubiquity (the installer) so it's probably not dying because of that. But didn't you say you still have problems?
[03:52] <rhenzar> histo: Okay, thanks.
[03:53] <histo> rhenzar: you could also move from wubi to a full install. but it's kind of a pita if you are new to the game.
[03:53] <rhenzar> bcbc2: Yeah, I'll have weird software inconsistencies, like Ubuntu will act differently every time I install it (different widgets will break, like some data is corrupted at some point or something)
[03:53] <Lowlymath> Anyone willing to help me get my system working?  I've got a dual boot running 12.04.2 and can only get into tty1.  The system has been inactive for a few months and had it's mobo replaced.
[03:54] <bcbc2> rhenzar: exactly. You need to run additional-drivers and then install the proper graphics driver
[03:54] <rhenzar> bcbc2: I'll install and set up my favorite apps, and things will just start breaking.
[03:55] <bcbc2> rhenzar: using nomodeset will get you past the installer for a normal dual boot.
[03:55] <rhenzar> bcbc2: Does this also work with other distros? Sorry if it's not too appropriate to the channel, it's just that this is usually the only thing stopping me from my installs.
[03:56] <bcbc2> rhenzar: Most likely.
[03:56] <bcbc2> rhenzar: see this http://askubuntu.com/q/162075
[03:57] <rhenzar> bcbc2: IRC is awesome! I've been struggling with this for a while, actually!
[03:57] <histo> rhenzar: typically it will work. Assuming the other distros are using grub 2. If not you will have to find directions for changing kernel options in their bootloader
[03:57] <rhenzar> histo: Debian-based distros generally use grub 2, though, right?
[03:58] <bcbc2> rhenzar: I'm surprised they don't make it a bit easier to install since so many people have radeon/nvidia graphics cards. But... we just report on how to get around it
[03:58] <rhenzar> bcbc2: And I'm extremely thankful for that!
[03:58] <hossein> it doesn't work!
[04:00] <bcbc2> rhenzar: np Good luck installing
[04:00] <rhenzar> bcbc2: Before I go, any distros you can recommend?
[04:00] <bcbc2> rhenzar: sure. Ubuntu is great
[04:00] <bcbc2> ;)
[04:00] <histo> !ppa | hossein
[04:00] <rhenzar> bcbc2: That makes sense :P
[04:01] <rhenzar> Bye, all! Thanks for the help!
[04:01] <histo> !addppa > hossein
[04:01] <NanaHaru> I tried installing Ubuntu under nomodeset and I still just get a black screen with white text. My specs are  Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 Processor: Intel i7 Ivy Brige Graphics Card: NVIDIA EVGA GTX 680 FTW RAM: Vengeance 8Gb HDD: Seagate 1tb
[04:01] <bcbc2> rhenzar: bye :)
[04:01] <histo> NanaHaru: does it boot?
[04:01] <hossein> the error is: cannot connect to <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:02] <hossein> I can open the site manually
[04:02] <NanaHaru> histo : I can only get to the opening screen where I get the options to install, try ubuntu, etc
[04:02] <histo> hossein: perhaps the ppa is down. YOu need to contact THEM for support.
[04:03] <histo> NanaHaru: and what happens when you try passing the nomodeset option?  It just hangs?
[04:03] <hossein> oh ok. this is good
[04:03] <NanaHaru> histo : I basically enter a CMD/terminal screen (just black with a whole bunch of white text)
[04:04] <histo> !md5sum | NanaHaru
[04:05] <rhenzar> histo: Also, why do you keep writing like that?
[04:06] <histo> rhenzar: having the bot give people help to frequently asked questions and problems
[04:06] <Lowlymath> Is there any way to boot  a disc from terminal?  my keyboard isn't being recognized in preboot
[04:07] <histo> rhenzar: !factoid_term
[04:07] <rhenzar> That makes sense :P
[04:07] <NanaHaru> histo : I used MD5 Checksum as recommonded by someone on the help forums earlier. My disk and usb are both clean and full.
[04:07] <histo> !factoid > rhenzar
[04:07] <histo> NanaHaru: did the checksum's match?
[04:08] <rhenzar> histo: That's helpful
[04:08] <NanaHaru> histo : Yes they matched
[04:09] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 changing that seemed to have no effect on anything
[04:09] <rhenzar> histo: "CTCP version reply 'Suck it Trebek' from histo"?
[04:10] <histo> rhenzar: ;)
[04:10] <rhenzar> histo: I'm new at this IRC thing, you guys have me confused sometimes :D
[04:10] <decci> Error: Invalid parameters: default_widget_template. The '/usr/share/plesk-billing/integration' utility was failed. All details of the problem has been stored into the '/opt/plesk-billing/lib/billing-libs/Billing/Integration/Cli/integration.crash.log' file. [08:01] <decci> Its a fresh installation
[04:10] <histo> rhenzar: I changed my versions reply to say that from the default message on my client.
[04:11] <histo> decci: can you pastebin the integration.crash.log file?
[04:12] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 got any more ideas
[04:12] <NanaHaru> histo : One thing though, is that I have no other OS to test my machine. It's new and completely bare, I've never had problems installing in the past. But with the UEFI I can't seem to install properly and I've followed two guides online already.
[04:12] <Lowlymath> I need to run a reinstall CD from terminal.  Is there a command for that?  My pc won't recognize my keyboard until it's too late for menu selection
[04:12] <histo> NanaHaru: what version of ubuntu are you trying to use?
[04:13] <decci> histo: Sure
[04:13] <selena2013> nanaharu use the Remix cd / usb image
[04:13] <decci> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5592228/
[04:13] <NanaHaru> histo : 12.10
[04:13] <selena2013> it has boot repairs for efi
[04:13] <histo> NanaHaru: 64bit?
[04:13] <NanaHaru> selena2013 : The linux secure img?
[04:13] <Corey> decci: Please stop spamming various channels with the same problem. :-)
[04:14] <decci> Corey: Ok sorry
[04:14] <NanaHaru> histo : Yes 64bit
[04:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: sorry, was away
[04:14] <rhenzar> What's the difference between Debian and Ubuntu? Could you consider Debian to be a user-friendly distro?
[04:14] <selena2013> yes there is a image call remix for efi boot
[04:14] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 it's ok
[04:14] <selena2013> nop Debian is harder to use
[04:14] <selena2013> ubuntu is easier
[04:15] <NanaHaru> selena2013 : I tried the secure remix img as well... it didn't want to work~ T.T
[04:15] <histo> decci: Well that error is useless. see what line 47 is in dataobject.php and try to figure out what it does. Also turn debugging on as the log suggests. You may get more assistance from a plesk channel
[04:15] <decci> histo: While I run Customer and Billing complete installation, I am unable to get it work
[04:15] <decci> histo: Thats binary file
[04:15] <histo> decci: /j ##plesk
[04:15] <decci> histo: And I have no idea what to chnage and what not to
[04:15] <histo> decci: ask in the ##plesk channel
[04:15] <decci> plesk IRC is pathetic
[04:15] <selena2013> nanaharu if you try to install in w8 machine ? or older machine ???
[04:15] <decci> histo: No one active there
[04:16] <Corey> decci: Doesn't Plesk charge you to use it?
[04:16] <Corey> You're paying for support, ask them.
[04:16] <Corey> And that php file is likely encrypted to avoid casual dissection.
[04:16] <decci> Corey: I am using free trial
[04:16] <histo> decci: then contact their support
[04:16] <Corey> decci: Even better, ask their sales apparatus.
[04:16] <histo> lol didn't know it was a paid app.
[04:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: anything with that?
[04:17] <Corey> histo: Yeah, I wound up running it at a web hosting shop I worked at.  It was obnoxious to get going. :-)
[04:17] <NanaHaru> selena2013 : it's custome build intel i7 ivy bridge, ASRock z77 extreme 4 w/UEFI (it doesn't say W8 ready, just W7), and a NVIDIA GTX 680 GFX card
[04:17] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 with changing root to boot?
[04:18] <histo> NanaHaru: should work..  Try your thumb drive on a different machien
[04:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: yes
[04:18] <NanaHaru> histo : My thumb drive seemed to work once, well it got further than the rest... but it spent about 2 hours on the ununtu loading screen...
[04:19] <Bray90820> i tried it appeared to do nothing
[04:19] <selena2013> oooo thats too much system i wish i had an i7
[04:19] <selena2013> i only have amd basic
[04:19] <histo> Lowlymath: you could try booting an iso from grub. If you just want to run the cd to run it you can use virtualization to do that.
[04:19] <NanaHaru> histo : You may be able to answere, but if I install ubuntu onto a HDD from a different computer using different specs, and then put it back into my machine now, would that work?
[04:20] <histo> NanaHaru: yes
[04:20] <Corey> Provided the initrd still works, yes.
[04:20] <NanaHaru> histo : thank you~ I shall try that~
[04:20] <histo> NanaHaru: assuming the other machine is efi
[04:20] <histo> NanaHaru: or you disable efi on your new machine
[04:21] <dsr> anyone know why lvchange -a n <LV> or vgchange -a n <VG> don't seem to do anything. the command runs with no errors, but after running lvscan, all the LVs are still active
[04:21] <rhenzar> It doesn't seem like the other Linux-related channels are active: going into an AP Computer Science course that teaches Java, what software (or distro if applicable) should I look at?
[04:21] <NanaHaru> histo : thank you~ I shall try that~?
[04:21] <yourimym1> morning 4om here guys'
[04:22] <histo> !best | rhenzar
[04:22] <NanaHaru> histo : how do I disable EFi?
[04:22] <selena2013> well we have 800 different distributions
[04:22] <selena2013> disable EFI at bios setup
[04:23] <selena2013> go to your machine bios setup at start up press the f1 or esc key
[04:23] <rhenzar> histo: I know, I know, just looking to see if anyone preferred anything that I should know about :D
[04:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: this is ice cream sandwitch
[04:23] <NanaHaru> is there a difference between EFI and UEFI?
[04:23] <histo> rhenzar: basically The only differences in the distros are their: Communities, default applications, package managers... They all can be built up from minimal systems to accomplish the same thing. You can program in java on any of them.
[04:23] <selena2013> well you are in the Ubuntu channel we suggest ubuntu
[04:23] <Bray90820> yes
[04:23] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 yes
[04:23] <Corey> rhenzar: The usual places are all active right now, not sure where you're looking.  But it's not really a distro specific question.
[04:23] <rhenzar> selena2013: I mainly meant software.
[04:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> rhenzar: I suggest Pinguy OS
[04:24] <rhenzar> Corey: Where should I look? I'm new to IRC, sorry!
[04:24] <histo> ohboy
[04:24] <Corey> rhenzar: ##linux may be a decent starting poing.
[04:24] <histo> rhenzar: you can program with any text editor. You can also use things like eclipse etc...
[04:25] <histo> Corey: no [R] is lurking
[04:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> rhenzar: codeblocks is a good ide for programming
[04:25] <Corey> histo: He doesn't scare me. :-)
[04:26] <rhenzar> I know that you can program with any number of text editors, etc., I was just wondering if there was any Linux -specific software that was particularly useful for this sort of thing. Thanks, though :P
[04:26] <rhenzar> histo: lurking?
[04:28] <NanaHaru> Can SATA disrupt the installation of ubuntu?
[04:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: does it do Detecting adroid-x86 plus infinite dots?
[04:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> NanaHaru: I would think not as I have it installed on my sata
[04:32] <connor__> I'm using a USB headset in Xubuntu and the volume up/down button attached to the cord is controlling the my external speakers volume but not my headsets volume. How do I fix this?
[04:40] <NanaHaru> SO I tried installing Ubuntu and I got to trying ubuntu without installing and basically it turned purple and started loading. But then white text came up and the bery bottom says "end trace"
[04:41] <Es0teric> how do i add a user to a group?
[04:41] <Es0teric> or a group to a user?
[04:41] <suhaib> Es0teric: gui or command line ?
[04:41] <NanaHaru> Command line
[04:41] <Es0teric> suhaib command line
[04:42] <dr_willis> hmm.. usermod perhaps?  i recall being carefull with  the commands or yoiu  can not add but sset the user to be in only  one groub by mistake
[04:42] <Es0teric> yeah, i need to add the user to the rvm group while staying in the other groups
[04:43] <littlebearz> Es0teric: usermod -G group1,group2 i think, double check
[04:43] <dr_willis> jot down the  groups they are in now.. first.  ;) just in case
[04:44] <Lowlymath> Still hoping to get a terminal command for running a reinstall cd (keyboard won't work during bootup, and my OS is broken)
[04:48] <littlebearz> Lowlymath: copy necessary files using cp and reimage it
[04:49] <lavolanta> hello everyone, i need some help with apache2 configuration for permissions, im getting a 403 forbidden error and page is not loading
[04:49] <Lowlymath> litterbearz: could you elaborate?  I am not fluent in terminal
[04:49] <Injigo> good evening.
[04:50] <lolcat89> I am taking a Unix class, will I be able to use Ubuntu in the fashion that Unix can be used? (e.g. will I be able to use the same commands, etc?) Forgive me, but I am a noob
[04:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: cp source target
[04:51] <dr_willis> bash should be the same lolcat89
[04:51] <selena2013> linux is a clone of unix but is not the same
[04:52] <lolcat89> bash means the command line's shell, right dr_willis?
[04:52] <dr_willis> id say  80%+ the same..  ;-) (
[04:52] <lavolanta> hello everyone, i need some help with apache2 configuration for permissions, im getting a 403 forbidden error and page is not loading
[04:52] <Injigo> does anyone have partition experience?
[04:52] <dr_willis> bash is one shell.
[04:52] <lolcat89> that is what comes with Ubuntu?
[04:52] <dr_willis> there are others
[04:52] <root___> hello?
[04:52] <dr_willis> !bash
[04:52] <root___> any one here?
[04:52] <Lowlymath> ntzmtthihu777: could you give me more info?  it's a windows reinstall cd in my primary dvd drive
[04:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> lolcat89: bash means bourn again shell, its a remake of bourn shell, additional features so you cant always do stuff in sh that you can in bash
[04:52] <Lowlymath> sorry for the stupid questions
[04:53] <dr_willis> heh. bash is the default in most cases
[04:53] <lavolanta> hello everyone, i need some help with apache2 configuration for permissions, im getting a 403 forbidden error and page is not loading
[04:53] <root___> anyone know why I can't upgrade to new version of ubuntu
[04:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: make it easy on yourself, type ntz then tab when talking to me
[04:53] <dr_willis> root___: not without some error messages
[04:54] <Injigo> so i used fixparts to realign some partitions in a live environment. now running gparted returns this error: http://dpaste.org/6jjoB/
[04:54] <littlebearz> Lowlymath: you need to turn you're BIOS using F10 or F12 keys on boot to set CD-ROM boot
[04:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: now what are you doing?
[04:54] <Lowlymath> littlebearz: I can't enter BIOS because my keyboard isn't light up until after the menu that lets you enter bios
[04:54] <lavolanta> hello everyone, i need some help with apache2 configuration for permissions, im getting a 403 forbidden error and page is not loading
[04:54] <dr_willis> loly
[04:55] <littlebearz> Lowlymath: BIOS is independent of operating system, try another USB slot or borrow a keyboard from friend
[04:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: can you partition during your windows boot?
[04:55] <dr_willis> Lowlymath: try a ps2 keyboard?
[04:55] <Lowlymath> ntzrmtthihu777: I'm not sure what to do with that cp source target command.  Am I supposed to replace source with the name of the drive?  as is I get cannot stat 'source': n such file or directory
[04:55] <dr_willis> Lowlymath: those are example names
[04:55] <littlebearz> Lowlymath: I was thinking you could CP the files from CDROM to dvd, but i realized you needed to reinstall
[04:56] <dr_willis> cp fromthisfile   tothisotherfile
[04:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: If I understand you you want to install ubuntu?
[04:56] <jk_> Lowlymath, I've had that problem with older hardware that doesn't recognize the USB keyboard until after the BIOS window is past; my solution is to find a PS/2 keyboard and plug it in!
[04:56] <Lowlymath> ntzrmtthihu777: I'm actually trying to reinstall windows from dvd but can't access bios
[04:56] <Lowlymath> jk_: I actually just tried going across the street to get a ps/2 but they don't have them
[04:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: well there's your problem right there! your pc doesnot want to go back to windows and its fighting you *chuckle*
[04:57]  * dr_willis has a dozen of them
[04:57] <Lowlymath> Was hoping there was a work around that would let me boot cd from terminal
[04:57] <littlebearz> Lowlymath: take out you're harddrive and goto a friend's house and install it there
[04:57] <Lowlymath> littlebearz: I don't have friends
[04:57] <root___> sorry,I am new to here...how to show my problem which i can't upgrade my ubuntu to new version
[04:57] <dr_willis> you can set grub2 to boot some iso files..
[04:57] <root___> ??
[04:58] <dr_willis> !upgrade > root___
[04:58] <lavolanta> hello everyone, i need some help with apache2 configuration for permissions, im getting a 403 forbidden error and page is not loading
[04:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I only think you can do linux based distros that way...
[04:58] <lolcat89> thanks for the help guys
[04:58] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777: never really tried it with windows. no idea
[04:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: plus if you are gonna install from said iso over the partition where it currently is you have to toram it
[04:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: and windows isos tend to be huge
[04:59] <dr_willis> #windows  may have ideas. or hit the junk stores for a ps2 keyboard
[04:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> unless its winxp or earlier
[05:00] <Lowlymath> Maybe there is some way I could save myself the trouble of reinstalling?  I replaced the mobo and graphics card and can only get into the tty1 terminal
[05:00] <root___> need to learn more about linux, where should I begin with??
[05:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: ubuntuwiki is good
[05:00] <dr_willis> Lowlymath: you want to fix ubuntu or install windows?
[05:00] <lavolanta> hello everyone, i need some help with apache2 configuration for permissions, im getting a 403 forbidden error and page is not loading
[05:01] <root___> thanks ntzrmtthihu777
[05:01] <dr_willis> !manual > root___
[05:01] <Lowlymath> Well I can't install windows because I don't have a ps2 on hand so I'd like to know if there is anything I can do to fix ubuntu
[05:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> got a liveusb/cd?
[05:02] <dr_willis> root___: what os are you running now?
[05:02] <Lowlymath> ntzrmtthihu777: if you are talking to me I can make one
[05:02] <jk_> Lowlymath, what's the problem with your ubuntu installation?
[05:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: yeah
[05:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> jk_: he can only get tty
[05:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: try using startx at tty
[05:03] <root___> anyone  know about sound driver for Toshiba satellite C855 series for ubuntu
[05:04] <serbforce> Hello :)
[05:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: google likely does ;)
[05:04] <Lowlymath> ntzrmtthihu777: (not starting - disabled in etc/default/open-arena-server) * Starting Op[ Ok ] dedicated server: openarena-server speech-dispatcher disabled; edit /etc/default/speec-dispatcher
[05:04] <jk_> ntzrmtthihu777, he might try using the grub editing capability to set "nomodeset" and be able to get into the GUI that way. I've had to do that on one VM I installaed recently...
[05:04] <Lowlymath> Everything else gets an ok message
[05:04] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777:  good idea, but I have been trying
[05:04] <root___> never get close
[05:05] <lavolanta> hello everyone, i need some help with apache2 configuration for permissions, im getting a 403 forbidden error and page is not loading
[05:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: google your specific sound card and release
[05:05] <faruk> anybody here got some good recommendations on partitioning my drive for linux? on windows i keep my documents/pictures/videos/etc. on a separate partition so i don't have to back anything up when i format to do a clean install, so i assume the equivalent of that in linux would be having separate / and /home partitions?
[05:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience > lavolanta
[05:05] <root___> how can i figure out ntzrmtthihu777  ??
[05:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: yes, this is how I do it
[05:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: lspci should give you some info
[05:06] <faruk> do you have any suggestions on how much size i should allocate to /?
[05:06] <root___> Oh great
[05:06] <Lowlymath> ntzrmtthihu777: If I install Liveusb will I be able to do something with that from terminal?
[05:06] <lavolanta> ntzrmtthihu777: ok!
[05:06] <lavolanta> ubottu: thanks!
[05:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: I only use 16gb for my /root, as much swap as I need, and the rest as /home
[05:07] <faruk> oh wow 16gb? so do all your installed programs go in /home?
[05:07] <jk_> faruk, it depends on how much additional software you expect to install. I set up 40 GB on this box and have not used much at all...
[05:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: no, most of that info goes in /bin or /usr/bin in /, ubuntu is just that tiny
[05:08] <faruk> hmm
[05:08] <faruk> because on windows 7 i set up 60GB, and after a couple of years i'm down to like 2GB free lol
[05:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: and I'm using a remastered ubuntu with a 2gb iso
[05:08] <faruk> windows folder alone has grown to 25GB from all the multiple versions of files that it keeps
[05:09] <serbforce> i love the 13.04 !
[05:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: thats because win$ == fat * slow
[05:09] <faruk> lol
[05:09] <littlebearz> ntzrmtthihu777: that's not true if you can tune it
[05:10] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777: it shows this
[05:10] <root___> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 1e20 (rev 04)
[05:10] <faruk> i'm looking forward to the switch, but i wanna get it right, because i'm not even gonna dual boot :P
[05:10] <root___> i don't know what to do next ntzrmtthihu777
[05:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> littlebearz: talking about the general rule
[05:10] <jk_> faruk, just double-checked. I set up this box with 46 GB in / and still have almost 41 GB left after installing a bunch of stuff. Most software goes into /usr/bin but it's not nearly as bloated as most Windows software...
[05:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: search for I-) and ubuntu
[05:11] <root___> search for what ntzrmtthihu777 ??
[05:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: I mean I through ) in that line
[05:11] <faruk> thanks for checking jk_, i'm a bit confused though, /usr/bin is in a separate partition from /?
[05:11] <serbforce> Does anybody know how to add x-chat icon on the top panel
[05:11] <jk_> faruk, no, it's part of /
[05:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: its a subdirectory of /, you can have it as another partition if you like
[05:12] <faruk> i thought if i make 2 partitions, / and /home, / will contain everything other than /home
[05:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> serbforce: what desktop environment you need
[05:12] <faruk> like if i install MATLAB, that's like 6GB alone
[05:12] <root___> sorry ntzrmtthihu777 I still do not understand
[05:12] <jk_> faruk, you are correct
 im on ubuntu 13.04 daily unity desktop
[05:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: search for Intel Corporation Device 1e20 (rev 04) and your version of ubuntu
[05:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: if you know you are gonna install huge software give / more then.
[05:13] <faruk> hmm okay
[05:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> serbforce: not a clue about 13.04 or unity
[05:13] <serbforce> okay :(
[05:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> serbforce: I'm a gnome2 12.04 man
[05:13] <faruk> so you'd say like 16GB for the OS itself, plus however much I estimate that I will need for the rest of the programs I will install?
[05:13] <serbforce> oh i see
[05:14] <serbforce> isnt gnome2 done for
[05:14] <serbforce> in terms of support
[05:14] <faruk> and just in case i run out of space, would it be weird to install stuff like games in /home?
[05:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: no, you don't *need* 16gb, that's just wiggle room. ubuntu only requires 4gb to install to
[05:14] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 sorry i am back now
[05:14] <RiXtEr> how do upstart scripts know to start... with systemv you could update-rc.d service defaults
[05:14] <faruk> oh okay
[05:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: you don't choose the install path, this is configured in the program itself
[05:15] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 and yes it does do detecting android with dots
[05:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: what kinda processor do you have
[05:15] <faruk> hmm i see
[05:15] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777:  my ubuntu is 10.10
[05:15] <faruk> thanks a lot for the info
[05:16] <siswa> halo
[05:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: this is not windows where you can choose that sorta thing and scrag it up. linux has a pretty specific heirarchy of directories for files and programs
[05:16] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 Intel Atom N550 Processor
[05:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: is that 64 or 32
[05:16] <RiXtEr> nevermind I figured it out.. was missing my symnlink
[05:16] <connor__> In the additional Drivers menu of Synaptic. The download for a proprietary nvidia driver is stuck at applying changes and I can't get it to work. Any ideas?
[05:16] <calwig> whats the easiest way *terminal. to recover the mbr record and boot from an ubuntu machine. The boot menu is necessary. USB must be inserted to allow to boot
[05:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: search for that Intel thing and maverick
[05:17] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i should note that id did work with the android version of grub
[05:17] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 it's 64
[05:17] <root___> ok ntzrmtthihu777
[05:17] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 64 bit
[05:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: and I should suggest you get a newer version of ubuntu
[05:17] <siswa> halooooo
[05:17] <raj> unfortunately it's come to the point where I need sound to work in ubuntu
[05:17] <raj> can someone please help me?
[05:17] <siswa> anugrahhhh
[05:17] <raj> I would greatly appreciate it
[05:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: hmmmm....
[05:17] <siswa> berpulang
[05:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> siswa: what language?
[05:18] <siswa> chinese
[05:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> siswa: i think there is a chinese channel, one sec.
[05:18] <somsip> !zh | siswa
[05:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ubuntu-zh > ntzrmtthihu777
[05:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> somsip: thank you
[05:19] <siswa> halooooo semuanyaaaa
[05:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> !zh > siswa
[05:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, the should configure ubottu to use the language of the ! for the "see my private message"
[05:20] <zamzam48> halooo
[05:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> zamzam48: how can we help you
[05:21] <zamzam48> nothing
[05:21] <selena2013> lol
[05:21] <zamzam48> lollll
[05:21] <root___> anyone know about connect one linux computer to another
[05:21] <zamzam48> nanti liga smasaaaaaa dukung x2
[05:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: how to you mean connect
[05:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: don't tell me you are running as root
[05:22] <root___> root??
[05:22] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777: what is root?
[05:22] <somsip> !root | root___
[05:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: in that case you are likely not, lol
[05:23] <somsip> root___: hmm - maybe not the right message there...
[05:23] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777: I do ..
[05:23] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777: is it not good?
[05:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: why
[05:23] <root___> somsip: what do you mean?
[05:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: if you are and you don't know why then you shouldn't be doing it.
[05:23] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777: really? How can i get root out?
[05:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: root is a user on everyone's pc, its what handles all the basic background stuff.
[05:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: its like your install's brain stem, handling heartbeats and such
[05:25] <dr_willis> we have to wonder how you  managed to login as root. there should  have been a initally  made user
[05:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> now, when you installed ubuntu, did you create your own login?
[05:25] <root___> i just type sudo su dr_willis
[05:25] <root___> I did ntzrmtthihu777
[05:25] <dr_willis> root___:  and WHY did you feel the need to do that?
[05:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> in that case exit will remove you from it
[05:25] <connor__> question: why is debian so much harder to use than ubuntu?
[05:25] <dr_willis> connor__:  its not really.
[05:26] <root___> i don't know dr_willis  i read in a book
[05:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> connor__: ubuntu is supposed to be the "everyman
[05:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> connor__: ubuntu is supposed to be the "everyman's linux"
[05:26] <dr_willis> root___:  time to log out  and login as your normal user. then irc as a normal user. not as root
[05:26] <connor__> installing video drivers and and such in debian is too much
[05:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: you should almost never ever ever run as sudo su unless you know exactly what you are doing
[05:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> what is your default username?
[05:27] <dr_willis> actually you  shouldent use 'sudo su'   if you need a root shell. use sudo -i
[05:27] <root___> ok mate ntzrmtthihu777
[05:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: exactly what is the difference?
[05:27] <dr_willis> the enviroment settings for the most part
[05:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I know of both, but I use sudo su because my fingers are already moving in that direction
[05:28] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  bad habbit.. break out  of  it.
[05:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: that bad?
[05:28] <root___> how to get out ntzrmtthihu777
[05:28] <dr_willis> we constantly  see people in here with files in their home dir owned by root.. thats normally from them miss-sudoing
[05:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: how are you on irssi?
[05:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: yeah, I am rather careful about that
[05:29] <raj> yesss, dr_willis
[05:29] <raj> hello sir
[05:29] <raj> I really need your help
[05:29] <raj> my sound isn't working
[05:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> !details | raj
[05:29] <dr_willis> i rarely  mess with sound issues. so dont know much  about  sound raj.
[05:29] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777: just fine
[05:29] <raj> where would `pacmd` say that it's muted or something?
[05:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: no, I mean what irc program are you using?
[05:31] <calwig> whats the easiest way *terminal. to recover the mbr record and boot from an ubuntu machine. The boot menu is necessary. USB must be inserted to allow to boot
[05:31] <calwig> !grub
[05:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> calwig: you can boot from usb using grub
[05:31] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777: irssi ntzrmtthihu777
[05:31] <calwig> ok
[05:31] <root___> why?
[05:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: first off, *highfive*, second off so I can tell you what to do
[05:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> you are gonna have to /quit irssi, then run exit, then start irssi again and reconnect to here
[05:32] <root___> ok ntzrmtthihu777
[05:32] <root___> see you in a min
[05:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: I kinda figured it was irssi, because its the only irc client I can think of that would set your username to root in a reasonable fashion
[05:33] <hossein> Hi guys
[05:35] <arguser> How to get wifi on a HP 1000 Mini with Ubuntu 12.10?
[05:35] <SubCool> hey- need som ehelp please
[05:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> arguser: lspci will tell you your wifi card name, and get more info
[05:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | subcool
[05:36] <myo> hello ntzrmtthihu777
[05:36] <dr_willis> arguser:  the addational-driver tool may  say if you  need any extra drivers for your  system
[05:36] <myo> i am back
[05:36] <hossein> I am trying to open a link which can be opened in windows but not in ubuntu lucid. this is the link: http://gmplib.org/ and I want to click on "Download benchmark sources"
[05:36] <SubCool> not funny
[05:36] <TheLordOfTime> SubCool, also 100% true.
[05:36] <TheLordOfTime> SubCool, just ask what you want to ask, don't say "I need help" or similar
[05:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> hello root, is that you myo?
[05:36] <SubCool> dr_willis - thanks for the help- but the bootcd didnt work
[05:36] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777: yes my friend
[05:36] <SubCool> TheLordOfTime, been here- -- calm down
[05:36] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777: it's me..
[05:36] <dr_willis> SubCool:  im not even sure of your  original issue.
[05:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: ok, now what was your original issue?
[05:37] <SubCool> grub
[05:37] <SubCool> dr_willis,
[05:37] <dr_willis> that narrows it down... but not much.
[05:37] <SubCool> i just reinstall kubuntu 12.04.1 and grub is ... not working
[05:37] <myo> 1st sound doesn't work 2nd can't upgrade ntzrmtthihu777
[05:37] <SubCool> when i boot- nothing pops up
[05:37] <raj> I had an issue with my settings
[05:37] <raj> fixed
[05:37] <raj> yay
[05:37] <raj> how can I control the volume with my keyboard volume rocker?
[05:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: you mean the in-ubuntu upgrade? like from lucid to natty?
[05:38] <myo> i have been trying googling the whole day, can't fine right one
[05:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> raj: there is a keyboard shortcuts option in the system settings
[05:38] <hossein> Hi ! can anyone help me please
[05:38] <raj> system settings ntzrmtthihu777 ?
[05:38] <raj> where's that?
[05:38] <SubCool> ihave used a liveusb and the bootable disc repair, - i keep coming up with close package managers
[05:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> raj: what version of ubuntu do you have
[05:38] <raj> it says "Enable multimedia keys" for Volti Preferences
[05:39] <SubCool> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub2
[05:39] <raj> how do I chcek my ubuntu version from command line again?
[05:39] <myo> i don't know what do you mean ntzrmtthihu777 ; what i mean is 10.10 to 12 or 11
[05:39] <SubCool> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958832
[05:39] <hossein> I need to click on a link which should open a page to download a code but it does not work in ubuntu
[05:39] <dr_willis> SubCool:  even the boot-repair live cd says that?
[05:39] <SubCool> im not really getting it
[05:39] <hossein> this is the link http://gmplib.org/
[05:39] <SubCool> dr_willis, ya
[05:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: yeah, that is what I mean. i would not suggest doing it, it screws up too often.
[05:39] <dr_willis> SubCool:  sounds liek it is checking for some newer version or somthing odd then.
[05:39] <hossein> and in the "Download benchmark sources" link
[05:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | hossein
[05:40] <dr_willis> SubCool:  you can always reinstall grub the manual way via differnt command line commands.
[05:40] <hossein> ok regards
[05:40] <SubCool> dr_willis, thats what im looking at- om boy..
[05:41] <dr_willis> hossein:    wget ftp://ftp.gmplib.org/pub/gmp-5.1.1/gmp-5.1.1.tar.lz
[05:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: what version are you trying to update to?
[05:41] <myo> ok ntzrmtthihu777 ; how about sound issue
[05:41] <XRacer> SubCool: You *did* make a rescue partition on another drive or flash eh?
[05:41] <myo> to 11.4 ntzrmtthihu777
[05:41] <dr_willis> SubCool:  you  may want to check askubuntu.com about your package manager/boot-repair issue.. ive never seen that message
[05:41] <myo> it's show
[05:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: why not just jump to 12.04?
[05:41] <myo> W:Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[05:41] <myo> , W:Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[05:42] <myo> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:42] <hossein> when I click nothing happens
[05:42] <dr_willis> !natty
[05:42] <SubCool> dr_willis, i have - im on this page... its.. honeslty confusing
[05:42] <myo> how? ntzrmtthihu777
[05:42] <myo> W:Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[05:42] <myo> , W:Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[05:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: do you have a cd or usb-key?
[05:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: we get that.
[05:42] <myo> usb-key??
[05:43] <dr_willis> natty repos have been moved to the archive servers i imagine myo  you  will need to fix your sources.list if you  want to upgrade it
[05:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: like a flash drive
[05:43] <dr_willis> !eol > myo
[05:43] <myo> how dr_willis
[05:43] <myo> oh i do have ntzrmtthihu777
[05:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: ok, how big is it? 1gb+?
[05:43] <dr_willis> ubottu just sent you a message how myo .. personally  id do a clean reinstall...
[05:43] <raj> how do I get my multimedia keys to work dr_willis ?
[05:43] <myo> yes
[05:44] <myo> yes ntzrmtthihu777
[05:44] <dr_willis> raj:  no idea.  Mine work fine.
[05:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: I forget, but does your version of ubuntu have that menu in the top left?
[05:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: like the windows start menu? or do you have that unity thingus
[05:45] <myo> menu?? ntzrmtthihu777  no
[05:45] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777: the sample of ubuntu Applications Places System
[05:45] <myo> that's
[05:45] <myo> and firefox icon
[05:46] <zamzam48> halooooo
[05:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: that's what I mean. click system, administration, startup disc creator
[05:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> !spam > ntzrmtthihu777
[05:46] <zamzam48> ha spam?
[05:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> guess not
[05:46] <myo> ok ntzrmtthihu777
[05:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> did you find it?
[05:46] <myo> !spam > ntzrmtthihu777
[05:47] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777: yes
[05:47] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 any ideas
[05:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: lawl XD
[05:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: I was not telling you to do that
[05:47] <myo> to do what ntzrmtthihu777 ??
[05:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: ok, should be a menu to chose 2 things, right?
[05:48] <myo> yes ntzrmtthihu777
[05:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> good. first you need to download the ubuntu cd image from releases.ubuntu.com/precise
[05:49] <allen_> GOODBYE EVERYONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE....E
[05:49] <rick_> Hi all, I want to examine memory usage in my linux system. I can use free to get the used/available memory. and use ps aux to get all RSS used by all user process. or use  pmap -d $pid to get the memory. But I don't know which one is more accurate if I wan't to know the distribution of the memory usage in the system
[05:49] <myo> ok
[05:49] <dandaman> hi all, im getting this "filesystem only has x mb left" message a bunch. I ran "du -hx --max-depth=1 /" on a bunch of directories and it looks like my /home/<myusername> folder is listed as 94gb despite it only having about 15gb of stuff in it, can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[05:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> rick_: memory in cache is available for use, rmember that.
[05:50] <myo> and then ntzrmtthihu777
[05:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: please type my name first so it highlights and I can notice it, I am in a few channels
[05:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: do you have a 32 bit or 64 bit computer
[05:51] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777: ok..
[05:51] <SubCool> ok- i need help
[05:51] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  I don't know
[05:51] <SubCool> i just tried to re-install 12.04 - and now the install doesnt see my lvm.
[05:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> SubCool: we get that, I (and likely others) do not have the answer to your problem.
[05:52] <SubCool> ntzrmtthihu777, thanks for that input
[05:52] <SubCool> ill make sure not to ask you next time
[05:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: ok, press alt+f2 and then enter gnome-system-monitor
[05:52] <rick_> ntzrmtthihu777, I can use echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_cache to empty, but I can't find a way to sum all the process and mem used by kernel(if I can get it?) to make the value of sum equal to the real physical memory.
[05:52] <SubCool> If anyone is familiar with Grub2 - please assist..
[05:52] <SubCool> and LVM
[05:53] <rick_> Thus I don't know which one is suitable to estimate the memory used by a process
[05:53] <bean> rick_, free -m
[05:53] <bean> ?
[05:53] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  then?
[05:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> SubCool: no need to be rude. it has been the same folk in this channel since you came on, and we have given it our best shots. how have you tryed searching the forums
[05:53] <rick_> The RSS field from ps or the private field from pmap -d $pid
[05:53] <SubCool> ntzrmtthihu777, your one to talk about being rude
[05:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: on the first tab it should tell you if you are using a 64-bit or 32-bit system
[05:54] <dr_willis> i dont use lvm. and all i know about grub2 is covered in the grub2 wiki and forum pages.. and grub2 homepage
[05:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> SubCool: welcome to my ignore list.
[05:54] <SubCool> ntzrmtthihu777, if the all seeing, attention barely guru u r was paying attention- i listed the searches i have attended
[05:54] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  nothing tell me it just tell my Ubuntu and Hardware and System Status
[05:54]  * SubCool pouts for ntzrmtthihu777 loss
[05:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> rick_: why do want to empty? that is not a good thing, it hinders processes ubuntu and other linux uses to keep your system running fast
[05:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: what does it say on that tab
[05:55] <myo> clear
[05:56] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  it said  my Ubuntu and Hardware and System Status
[05:56] <ak5> hi, how can I get a list of mirrors and test them for speed? is there some kind of tool for that or manually?
[05:56] <myo> that is
[05:56] <ak5> (I need CLI tool)
[05:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: and what are they?
[05:57] <yourimym11> morning from here guys
[05:57] <dandaman> can anyone help me with my issue, its causing me a lot of problems with the "running out of space box"
[05:57] <rick_> ntzrmtthihu777, Just want to analyze the usage of memory. To see the distribution of system/desktop related/personal develop process.
[05:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> !details | dandaman
[05:57] <yourimym11> is there any way to mount my drives automatically  ?
[05:57] <somsip> ak5: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39922/how-do-you-select-the-fastest-mirror-from-the-command-line
[05:57] <dandaman> ntzrmtthihu777: scroll up
[05:57] <leilei> hello everyone!!
[05:57] <dandaman> hi all, im getting this "filesystem only has x mb left" message a bunch. I ran "du -hx --max-depth=1 /" on a bunch of directories and it looks like my /home/<myusername> folder is listed as 94gb despite it only having about 15gb of stuff in it, can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[05:58] <somsip> !fstab | yourimym11
[05:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: yes, you can edit your fstab
[05:58] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  Release 10.10,kernel linux,gnome, memory ,processor 0 to 3, available disk space
[05:58] <dr_willis> dandaman:  sounds like you are not measureing your disk space properly  and most likly ogt sutff in hiden folders.
[05:58] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  that is
[05:58] <arguser> sorry, back again
[05:58] <rick_> Once I know the distribution, I can decide to see If there is any process that takes too many memory and try to make it use less memory.
[05:58] <arguser> so
[05:58] <arguser> for an HP 1000 mini
[05:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: there is more than that
[05:58] <dandaman> dr_willis: wouldn't du -hx --max-depth=1 / show hidden folders sizes?
[05:58] <arguser> to make wifi work on Ubuntu 12.10
[05:58] <dr_willis> dandaman:  theres some commands/aliass online that can show what dirs are using the most spaxce. time to start looking..  be sure to empty your trash also
[05:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: tell you what, how much memory
[05:58] <arguser> how do i?
[05:59] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  that's all mate, Memory 2.9
[05:59] <dr_willis> dandaman:   never noticed.. never tried.. not on a ubuntu  box now to test.
[05:59] <dandaman> dr_willis: trash is empty, can you give me a hint as to what to google
[05:59] <dr_willis> dandaman:  sort directorys by size in bash
[06:00] <dr_willis> dont forget that .gvfs is special also. ;)
[06:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: says release 10.10 and what else
[06:00] <yourimym11> somsip: how to edit fstab ?
[06:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: with a text editor, as root
[06:01] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  beneath that Kernel Linux,GNOME
[06:01] <zamzam48> halo every body,where u from?
[06:01] <somsip> yourimym11: with a text editor. nano or vi in terminal, or gksudo gedit
[06:01] <arguser> anyone? How to make wifi work an HP 1000 mini with Ubuntu 12.10
[06:01] <dandaman> dr_willis: checked that as well :\
[06:01] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  after all, Hardware
[06:01] <zamzam48> @all: where u from?
[06:01] <dr_willis> arguser:  ran that addational-drivers tool yet? its in a tab under software-sources tool
[06:01] <arguser> dr_willis: now ethernet mate
[06:01] <dr_willis> zamzam48:  you dont want 1000+ people just spammin you...
[06:01] <arguser> dr_willis: no ethernet
[06:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: you need to know 1. the uuid of the partitions you want to mount, 2. where you want to mount it, and that's about it
[06:01] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777: down below Hardware; System Status
[06:02] <dsr> anyone know how to find a file's exact location on a hard disk?
[06:02] <ak5> somsip: thanks
[06:02] <zamzam48> ha? spaming?
[06:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: I mean on the same line as release
[06:02] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  that's all
[06:02] <dandaman> found it
[06:02] <dandaman> its this file .xsession-errors.old
[06:02] <dandaman> can i delete that?
[06:02] <myo> there is no release ntzrmtthihu777
[06:02] <yourimym11> somsip: ntzrmtthihu777 : i'd like to go from terminal , is there command to mount the whole harddisk paritions
[06:02] <zamzam48> woiiii
[06:02] <dr_willis> arguser:  if your wifi card needs extra drivers that tool should show you  and download them.
[06:02] <zamzam48> u know JKT48?
[06:02] <dr_willis> dandaman:  yes you  can
[06:02] <somsip> dsr: sudo find / -name {filename} works but will go through the whole drive. So locate {filename} can often be simpler
[06:02] <zamzam48> i like JKT48
[06:02] <dandaman> dr_willis: do you know what it is?
[06:03] <arguser> dr_willis: its more of a problem i guess
[06:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: you just told me that your machine said Realease 10.10
[06:03] <dr_willis> dandaman:  its an old .xsession errors file...
[06:03] <arguser> dr_willis: broadcom blacklisting and more
[06:03] <zamzam48> AKB48......................
[06:03] <somsip> yourimym11: you need to add entries to fstab - one for each drive. see the link on !fstab for information
[06:03] <dandaman> dr_willis: i dont know what xsession is :\
[06:03] <dr_willis> !broadcom
[06:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: man fstab gives you all the info you need
[06:03] <somsip> yourimym11: s/drive/partition
[06:03] <dr_willis> dandaman:  the GUI uses X.. so  its a log of errors from your desktip session
[06:03] <dandaman> ahh i see
[06:04] <zamzam48> hdhhjdhdsh
[06:04] <zamzam48> huhuuh
[06:04] <KUPANG> ZAM" KOYOK BRUTU
[06:04] <tomi> hai
[06:04] <zamzam48> dafuqqqq
[06:04] <dr_willis> zamzam48:  do you  have an actual ubuntu support question?
[06:04] <tomi> zam zam koyok brutu
[06:04] <somsip> zamzam48: stop now please
[06:04] <zamzam48> yes
[06:04] <KUPANG> I DONT HSVE MSNY
[06:04] <yourimym11> ntzrmtthihu777: downloaded already but cant use it :S
[06:05] <KUPANG> MANY
[06:05] <zamzam48> u know JKT48?
[06:05] <tomi> ubuntu is simple and nice
[06:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: downloaded what?
[06:05] <zamzam48> mad:engkok jam piro liga smasa?
[06:05] <yourimym11> mountmanager , searched for fstab in ubuntu software center
[06:05] <zamzam48> JKT4888888888888
[06:06] <zamzam48> oi oi oi oi aaaaaaaaaaaaaa yoziwalll
[06:06] <histo> !mount | yourimym11
[06:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: fstab comes with all linux. open a terminal and type man fstab
[06:06] <histo> !fstab > yourimym11
[06:06] <somsip> !ops | zamzam48 continues to spam after being asked politely not to
[06:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> bye bye
[06:06] <elky> zamzam48, what are you trying to achieve?
[06:07] <histo> !troll
[06:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: does ubottu know that one?
[06:07] <elky> histo, no need for that
[06:07] <zamzam48> halooo
[06:07] <zamzam48> u know JKT48
[06:07] <elky> zamzam48, no. He's not here.
[06:08] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: He used to.
[06:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> elky: he keeps repeating the same again and again, and frequently types literal gibberish
[06:08] <histo> The trigger used to say something along the lines of not acknowledging them.
[06:08] <yourimym11> ntzrmtthihu777:  histo http://pastebin.com/npTxXXT5
[06:08] <elky> ntzrmtthihu777, i read the scrollback, thanks.
[06:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> elky: kk
[06:08] <zamzam48> JKT48 is sister group of AKB48,u know?
[06:09] <zamzam48> ahmad edannnn
[06:09] <Ben64> zamzam48: if you don't have an actual ubuntu support question, leave or be quiet
[06:09] <elky> zamzam48, no, that's not relevant to here. This is for tech support not talking about whatever group you're talking about.
[06:09] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777: i got to go
[06:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: I said man fstab
[06:09] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  thank you for everything
[06:09] <zamzam48> what is this?
[06:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: np
[06:09] <KUPANG> hi
[06:10] <zamzam48> hai juga
[06:10] <histo> !feedthetroll
[06:10] <KUPANG> ngapain di sini? kamu pake ubuntu juga ya?
[06:10] <elky> KUPANG, english?
[06:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> KUPANG: what language?
[06:10] <KUPANG> grammar nazi
[06:10] <Ben64> Indonesian, probably the same guy
[06:10] <yourimym11> ntzrmtthihu777: is there easy way for this ?
[06:11] <siswa_> what gramar nazi?
[06:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: not that I know. its actually pretty easy
[06:11] <Extreme> Hi everyone.
[06:11] <Ben64> oh, all same ip
[06:11] <elky> Ben64, same ident/ip yeah
[06:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> elky: idea for ubottu
[06:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: how many do you need to automount?
[06:12] <Extreme> I'm having troubles with the "Show in Folder" option in both Chrome and Chromium. When I try to open the downloaded file, it's opened in my text-editor. Weird. Does anyone else have this problem?
[06:12] <JKT48> hal0o everybode,im backkkk
[06:12] <c_nick> i am using evolution as my default mail client .. whenever i send a mail .. the mail goes but does not come under Sent Folder which previously used to happen ..   i checked out http://www.fergytech.com/2008/06/evolution-summary-and-folder-mismatch-even-after-a-sync/ but whatever it says also does not work. My Evolution is 3.2.3
[06:12] <yourimym11> ntzrmtthihu777: 3 partitions
[06:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> elky: when you do the !language > someone thing, it asks them to notice ubottu's pm in english. if they are speaking another language that wont do any good, no?
[06:13] <one> test
[06:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> return false
[06:13] <IdleOne> !test > one
[06:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: where do you want them mounted?
[06:13] <Extreme> !test > ubottu
[06:13] <Extreme> lol
[06:14] <yourimym11> ntzrmtthihu777: or mount all of my partitions
[06:14] <elky> ntzrmtthihu777, most can read enough english to figure that much out.
[06:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> elky: true, i suppose. but how hard would it be to have !zh > foo say it in chinese?
[06:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: where do you want it mounted?
[06:15] <somsip> ntzrmtthihu777: if you don't make it private, that will do the job
[06:15] <one> Keep getting rooted
[06:15] <elky> ntzrmtthihu777, probably would involve rewriting the bot completely
[06:15] <somsip> !zh | ntzrmtthihu777 for example
[06:15] <one> or should I say chrooted
[06:15] <histo> one: What?
[06:15] <yourimym11> ntzrmtthihu777: in home
[06:15] <elky> enough testing the bot here, please don't make the channel full of nonsense
[06:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> somsip: yeah, I know about that, but perhaps they don't pay attention to when you do it |
[06:16] <yourimym11> home dir i mean not my home :D
[06:16] <one> histo: I keep getting chrooted
[06:16] <somsip> ntzrmtthihu777: there is only so much that can be done, and OT
[06:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> somsip: not ot
[06:16] <Ben64> !details | one
[06:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: you still have not explained exactly what you are trying to achieve
[06:17] <IdleOne> ntzrmtthihu777: actually it is, ubottu is not an Ubuntu issue. ubottu is open source see /msg ubottu !bot , patches welcome :)
[06:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> IdleOne: not gonna argue, but a bot that gives ubuntu specific info seems like an ubuntu issue to me.
[06:19] <IdleOne> ntzrmtthihu777: I'm not going to argue either, but you seem to see it wrong.
[06:19] <Tm_T> please move the bot discussion elsewhere from this support channel
[06:19] <IdleOne> ntzrmtthihu777: it is a channel management issue, not a distro issue.
[06:19]  * ntzrmtthihu777 dropped it
[06:19] <yourimym11> ntzrmtthihu777: for example when i open my pc and run rhythmbox , there's no files in library , so i open each drive manually from nutalies , and suddenlly music appear on library , after mount my partitions , i mean by mount here is to open it not to mount it like .iso image or something
[06:20] <Ben64> yourimym11: wait what are you trying to do?
[06:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: ok, I get that. do you want this partition mounted over music?
[06:20] <histo> yourimym11: the partition gets mounted when you click on it in nautilus
[06:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: a files on other partition issue, wants an automount for ease
[06:21] <histo> !fstab | yourimym11 if you want it mounted on boot follow this
[06:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: yourimym11 want's to do avoid that, seen that already and does not understand it, so i am assisting
[06:21] <Extreme> I fixed the issue. It was xdg-open. sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gnome-open /usr/local/bin/xdg-open  did the job! :)
[06:21] <yourimym11> histo: yes , i want it to mount automatically
[06:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: message me, you are just gonna keep getting !fstab at you in open irc
[06:22] <histo> yourimym11: That's what fstab is for. Telling linux how to handle hte filesystems on boot.
[06:22] <Ben64> should do support in the channel, not in pm
[06:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: if everyone keeps throwing things not understood in channel can only hurt.
[06:22] <histo> yourimym11: what do you not understand about fstab?
[06:23] <bean> ntzrmtthihu777, its considered good support to do it in channel not in PM
[06:23] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: what if you give some terrible advice and nobody is there to say anything?
[06:23] <histo> yourimym11: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak && gksu gedit /etc/fstab     make your relevant changes then sudo mount -a will mount all those systems you specify.
[06:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> bean: Ben64: no expert am I, but automounting a partition is pretty simple.
[06:23] <cotcot> hello
[06:24] <histo> cotcot: hello
[06:24] <cotcot> i have trouble i tried to update my kernel now i have a lot of problem
[06:24] <cotcot> http://askubuntu.com/questions/264991/tried-to-install-a-kernel-now-i-have-mutliple-problems
[06:24] <cotcot> i ve described my problem here
[06:24] <c_nick> ok i got it to work i was goofing up big time.. i had "topic" in search field
[06:24] <c_nick> my bad :)
[06:24] <Ben64> cotcot: so uh... why did you try upgrading kernel?
[06:25] <cotcot> someone told me that with the latest my cpu temperature will be cooler
[06:25] <cotcot> i should have done some research before :(
[06:25] <cotcot> and i still have the windows mentality: always get the latest update
[06:25] <histo> cotcot: can you boot the old kernel from the grub menu?
[06:25] <Ben64> cotcot: as a general rule, you should only install stuff from the official repositories unless you've got a good reason
[06:25] <histo> cotcot: yeah get rid of the mentality. Don't fix what isn't broken.
[06:25] <cotcot> im still on my old kernel it didnt install correctly lol
[06:26] <histo> cotcot: okay what problems do you have with your old kernel?
[06:26] <Ben64> cotcot: what guide were you following, what commands did you do?
[06:26] <cotcot> read this histo http://askubuntu.com/questions/264991/tried-to-install-a-kernel-now-i-have-mutliple-problems
[06:26] <cotcot> i explained everything i tried to do it carefuly
[06:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: if it aint broke you don't know how to use it yet *chuckle*
[06:26] <cotcot> i used a script
[06:26] <cotcot> from a website
[06:26] <cotcot> upbuntu
[06:26] <cotcot> wait
[06:26] <Ben64> we'll need to see it
[06:27] <cotcot> http://www.upubuntu.com/2013/03/install-linux-kernel-382-in-ubuntulinux.html
[06:27] <cotcot> i followded that
[06:27] <cotcot> i managed to get ride of it
[06:27] <cotcot> now all i have left is things from the update manager
[06:27] <cotcot> i think i managed to get ride of the 3.8 using apt-purge
[06:28] <cotcot> but i cant get rid of the 3.5.25 when i try to use it
[06:28] <histo> cotcot: looks to me like that script just downloads debs from kernel.ubuntu.com and installs them.
[06:28] <cotcot> i tried to do broken dependecies thing in synaptic too
[06:28] <cotcot> yes
[06:28] <cotcot> thats what it does
[06:28] <cotcot> thats how my problems began
[06:29] <cotcot> 3.8 isnt a problem anymore
[06:29] <histo> !enter
[06:29] <cotcot> now its 3.5.25 that i tried to install via the update manager
[06:29] <Ben64> cotcot: could you pastebin "dpkg -l"
[06:29] <MrHacks> Something strange just happened...my screen just went from being 1200x1080 down to 800x600.  What the hell just happedn?
[06:29] <cotcot> yes
[06:29] <histo> cotcot: Which version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:29] <cotcot> 12.04
[06:30] <histo> !info linux-image-generic precise
[06:30] <MrHacks> ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[06:30] <histo> cotcot: is there a reason you aren't running linux-image-generic?
[06:30] <Ben64> then why were you trying to get <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:30] <Ben64> oh wait, 12.04 does the new kernel stuff
[06:31] <histo> 12.04.2
[06:31] <cotcot> atm im on 3.5.17
[06:31] <Ben64> !info linux-generic-lts-quantal
[06:31] <cotcot> i just have broken dependencies that i cnat get ride of
[06:31] <Ben64> !info linux-generic-lts-quantal precise
[06:31] <dd_> hello. noob question. i have a webserver, my personal user will have a website folder. should i create a separate admin user with sudo privs, instead of using my personal user to manage the machine while also having a website folder?
[06:31] <histo> Ben64: can't he just install linux-meta-lts-quantal
[06:32] <histo> dd_: your personal user can't use sudo unless they invoke it.
[06:32] <MrHacks> nevermind. Used xrandr
[06:32] <newb> (windows host) what happens to the usb after using it to dual boot ubuntu? can it still be a functional usb for just storage or forever be a bootable drive?
[06:32] <ak5> can I update lucid to precise easily? I am using ubuntu-server
[06:32] <MrHacks> I don't know what the hell happened to cause my resoution to drop but whatever it was it was not cool.
[06:33] <histo> cotcot: dpkg -l | grep linux-meta-lts-quantal
[06:33] <dd_> histo: so in general do people usually have a user dedicated for admining the machine, or do they just give sudo to their user?
[06:33] <histo> !upgrade | ak5
[06:33] <Ben64> histo: i don't think thats a package name
[06:33] <cotcot> nothing happens hito
[06:33] <histo> dd_: default is sudo behavior is that way.
[06:33] <histo> cotcot: dpkg -l | grep image | pastebinit
[06:34] <rypervenche> dd_: The root user is for admin things.
[06:34] <histo> dd_: sorry default ubuntu behavior is that way. The user that installed ubuntu is added to the sudo group and has those rights
[06:34] <rypervenche> dd_: or your user with sudo privileges. Others aren't supposed to have sudo privileges.
[06:34] <SubCool> Ok- i dont get it, i REinstalled kubuntu. And now when it boots, it stops at Busybox v.1.18.5 with an initramfs -
[06:34] <SubCool> wth?
[06:34] <histo> dd_: I'm not sure I understand your concern? If someone hacks your server you mean?
[06:35] <histo> SubCool: any errors?
[06:35] <SubCool> none
[06:35] <SubCool> histo, that i know of
[06:35] <dd_> histo: well, to better word it, my webserver will have one user per website. should i keep the ubuntu user around to perform admin duties, so i don't need to give sudo to website users?
[06:36] <SubCool> histo, in dmes would it be at the top or bottom
[06:36] <histo> SubCool: were you playing with hard drives or in the bios recently
[06:36] <histo> SubCool: bottom
[06:36] <ak5> histo: so it seems there are no specific guides for 10.04 lts to 12.04 lts
[06:36] <rypervenche> dd_: Keep a user around, or have some way to access root.
[06:36] <Ben64> dd_: if the users don't need sudo, then theres no reason to give them access
[06:36] <SubCool> histo, harddrives
[06:36] <histo> dd_: don't give the other users sudo they don't need it.
[06:37] <histo> SubCool: What specifically were you doing with your hard drive?
[06:37] <histo> ak5: you just upgrade
[06:37] <histo> ak5: it will upgrade LTS to LTS
[06:37] <SubCool> histo, all i did was reinstall kubntu- but i tried to put grub on sda instead of sdb. After boot-erpair failed.. i just resintalled kubuntu AGAIN , this time to sdb - but.. here i am.
[06:37] <histo> SubCool: which disk is marked as bootable?
[06:38] <dd_> Ben64: is it fine to login as my admin user all the time, then if i need to do something as a website user, just su to that user? that way i only have one user that needs to/is able to ssh in?
[06:38] <SubCool> histo, i have no clue now.
[06:38] <histo> dd_: yes
[06:38] <histo> !sudo | dd_
[06:38] <histo> SubCool: boot a live cd
[06:38] <SubCool> k
[06:39] <ak5> histo: sorry i am on a headless server, do I just use apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:39] <one> its usually more compilcated
[06:39] <cotcot> well i cant find the solution im gonna go eat something
[06:39] <cotcot> thanks again
[06:39] <dd_> cool, thanks guys
[06:40] <ak5> one: I figured, I am used to rolling release and anything else baffles me
[06:40] <histo> ak5: did you see the link from ubottu ?
[06:40] <ak5> yes
[06:40] <histo> ak5: it explains the process ona  server right on that page