[18:50] <mickster04> temon: it works, why vga and not somethingnewer?
[18:50] <michaelxq> I installed brasero and i've tried to copy a cd and a notification appeared... ___Please install the following manually and try again:cdda2wav (application) toc2cue (application) cdrdao (application) toc2cue (application) cdrdao (application).___
[18:50] <sudobash> you all have nothing better to do than tell me what I should do instead of trying to answer the question... HOW CAN I INSTALL CUSTOM PPD DRIVERS AND LOAD THEM IN INSTEAD OF IT TRYING TO SEARCH FOR DRIVERS EVERYTIME?
[18:51] <mickster04> !caps
[18:51] <geekphreak> sudobash: dude relax
[18:51] <aSSogueroZen_SX> ratcheer thats sad isnt it
[18:51] <kjele> sudobash: Hack the source code
[18:51] <jaclinuxhelp> any ideas on why in my 3MB internet connection, apt-get upgrade goes very very slow ? may be there is some plugin to search for a faster mirror like in Fedora ?
[18:51] <Bal_st1040> temon: i have ati radeon 2600xt, and with ubuntu 10.04 lts, it works out-of-the box with the default open-source driver
[18:51] <blivori> kjele, i have i   linux-image-2.6.32-21-generic   - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.32 on x also installed
[18:51] <erUSUL> jaclinuxhelp: system>admin>software sources
[18:51] <michaelxq> and i can't find them from ubuntu software center
[18:51] <mamad876> does anybody now, why hibernate option just disappeared in my Lucid upgrade on Thinkpad?
[18:51] <kjele> blivori: That is the lucid kernel
[18:51] <ratcheer> aSSogueroZen_SX: For sure.
[18:51] <ceu> what's the right way to disable a service at boot with upstart?
[18:51] <jaclinuxhelp> erUSUL, but there what must i do ?
[18:51] <maco> sudobash: please don't shout, please calm down, and please file a bug if there is a regression (ie feature went missing). likely an ubuntu developer did *not* decide to remove a feature but rather upstream made some change which we can certainly talk to them about or patch at the ubutu level
[18:51] <futura> I have a 5th gen ipod nano, which ubuntu detects and reads fine, as does rhythmbox. banshee, amarok, siongbird, and gtkpod wont show the ipod. In rhythmbox, it shows up and i can browse the pod and listen to it, but i cannot copy any song/playlist/ANYTHING to the ipod. Can someone tell me how i copy playlists to my ipod???
[18:51] <aSSogueroZen_SX> ratcheer i thought it was something about compiz, but already removed it
[18:52] <erUSUL> jaclinuxhelp: in the first tab there is an option to choose mirror. one of the options finds the fastest one
[18:52] <atomicsunset> lol i have a high pitch hum but when i scroll the screen it quiets.....
[18:52] <undecim> mamad876: How much ram and swap do you have?
[18:52] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[18:53] <Bal_st1040> somebody can tell what is the default values for mouse speed/accelaration in ubuntu 10.04?
[18:53] <Bal_st1040> +mr
[18:53] <akaustav> undecim: My friend says: "Thanks undecim. You've saved me a lot of work".
[18:53] <blivori> kjele,  so I have to reinstall or something?
[18:53] <wise_crypt> sudobash: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkPrinters
[18:53] <mamad876> undecim: 2GB Ram and 3 GB Swap
[18:53] <alteregoa> Bal_st1040: aprox 10" per second
[18:53] <michaelxq>  I installed brasero and i've tried to copy a cd and a notification appeared... ___Please install the following manually and try again:cdda2wav (application) toc2cue (application) cdrdao (application) toc2cue (application) cdrdao (application).___ and i can't find them from ubuntu software center
[18:53] <brieweb> Does anyone use lazarus here?
[18:54] <amabo> hello - is it possible to eliminate the gap of space between two monitors? it's clearly shown here - http://imgur.com/yoMsv.png - but it allows for items on the desktop to roll off the screen
[18:54] <temon> bal_st1040:you download and install manually this driver for ATI vga card?
[18:54] <undecim> akaustav: Tell him it was nothing and to enjoy Ubuntu
[18:54] <short> Hi, I'm trying to setting something up *very simple* to send SMTP emails through the command line. Any suggestions? After looking on the internet I found that I can setup a .mailrc. However it seems it's not working. Do I need to setup anything else (without having to setup a fully blown SMTP server)?
[18:54] <jaclinuxhelp> erUSUL great!
[18:54] <kjele> blivori: No just have to use the old kernel. Or test it out. To do that you need to reboot and select it during the grub menu which will appear only if you hold shift down
[18:54] <erUSUL> michaelxq: sudo aptitude install cdda2wav toc2cue cdrdao
[18:54] <Bal_st1040> temon: no i use the default open source driver, i dont install anything
[18:55] <aryan> do they sale the ubuntu CD's to install in the electronic stores?
[18:55] <aryan> or its only downloading from PC?
[18:55] <merike> how can I debug slow resume from hibernate?
[18:55] <brieweb> I am trying to use interactive help, F1, in lazarus, and it doesn't work.
[18:55] <blivori> kjele,  ok thx
[18:55] <Karim_416> This time I won't be changing the Screen Size until tomorrow or after a few seconds
[18:55] <erUSUL> aryan: you may find some linux magazines with the cd ...
[18:55] <v0lksman> wise_crypt, hahaha..no thanks or anything...
[18:55] <Loshki> short: if you have an ISP who provides an smtp server, the simplest thing to do is install and configure ssmtp...
[18:55] <akaustav> undecim: I did. Good night. I'll be off to bed.
[18:55] <Varanger> penguin42: When I ruan gdm it says gdm can't connect to system bus
[18:55] <temon> bal_st1040: owh... its the default driver from lucid??
[18:56] <aryan> erUSUL: because i had bought for example redhat CD's before
[18:56] <aryan> erUSUL: you know
[18:56] <wise_crypt> v0lksman: :p
[18:56] <short> Loshki, as in apt-get install ssmtp. Will it work with a .mailrc file?
[18:56] <v0lksman> wise_crypt, I for one thank you...great to have helpful volunteers here helping people out, even those that don't know how to play nice...
[18:56] <Karim_416> I want to do the box/cube thing with Ubuntu how do I do it?
[18:56] <geekphreak> v0lksman: most are good :)
[18:56] <awaad> I want a program in Ubuntu which is like this one : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debug_%28command%29
[18:56] <wise_crypt> v0lksman: hehe :)
[18:56] <michaelxq> erUSUL, The following packages will be REMOVED: akonadi-server{u} gdebi-kde{u} install-package{u} kdebase-workspace-data{u} kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins{u} kdesudo{u} ksysguardd{u} libkephal4{u} libkfontinst4{u}   libkscreensaver5{u} libksgrd4{u} libpackagekit-glib2-12{u} libpackagekit-qt-12{u} libplasma-applet-system-monitor4{u} libplasma-geolocation-interface4{u} libplasmaclock4{u}   libplasmagenericshell4{u} libprocesscore4{u}
[18:56] <michaelxq>  libprocessui4{u} libqimageblitz4{u} libtaskmanager4{u} libweather-ion4{u} mysql-client-core-5.1{u} mysql-server-core-5.1{u}  packagekit{u} packagekit-backend-apt{u} plasma-dataengines-workspace{u} python-packagekit{u} software-properties-kde{u} update-manager-kde{u}
[18:57] <Shapeshifter> Uhm, guys.  I don't see how I can shut down this thing from the GUI. sure reboot works as root but I only see this "log out user" applet in the bar and there I can only log out or switch users. but not shut down
[18:57] <geekphreak> Karim_416: enabel compiz
[18:57] <Mcl0vin> jongbergs: i lost my wireless connection , and can get it back
[18:57] <jongbergs> !hibernate
[18:57] <erUSUL> michaelxq: o.0!!!!
[18:57] <kjele> !pastebin | michaelxq
[18:57] <wise_crypt> !pastebin > michaelxq
[18:57] <Karim_416> First of all can I use compiz
[18:57] <erUSUL> michaelxq: are you using kubuntu ?
[18:57] <doleyb> Shapeshifter: can you get back to the main gdm login screen, and then click a shutdown icon in the corner?
[18:57] <Shapeshifter> doleyb: I don't want to use gdm
[18:57] <aryan> erUSUL is efnet dead?
[18:57] <Shapeshifter> doleyb: or rather, I don't want to see it. I use autologin
[18:57] <Varanger> penguin42: When I ruan gdm it says gdm can't connect to system bus
[18:57] <v0lksman> how do you update all video file types to use VLC?
[18:58] <aryan> erUSUL every channel is idle
[18:58] <jongbergs> Mcl0vin: can you reboot the machine in question?
[18:58] <erUSUL> aryan: dunno;
[18:58] <geekphreak> Shapeshifter:  , press ctrl+alt+del
[18:58] <penguin42> anyone know if the iscsi_trgt module included in lucid is the same one as would be generated by the iscsitarget-source package ?
[18:58] <doleyb> awaad: the direct program for that is called gdb, but there are fancier ones too.
[18:58] <aryan> erUSUL back in late 90's it was so active like this
[18:58] <aryan> erUSUL have you used irc since late 90's?
[18:58] <Pici> !ot | aryan
[18:58] <michaelxq> erUSUL, no ubuntu 10.04
[18:58] <erUSUL> aryan: no; 21 contury discovery for me
[18:58] <Shapeshifter> geekphreak: huh. what should that even do. ctrl-alt-del seems to be disabled in ubuntu. in any case, I'm asking about a button. a menu. a "shutdown" thing.
[18:58] <kjele> Karim_416: what video driver are you using? And what video card do you have?
[18:59] <aryan> ok
[18:59] <futura> Why does nothing in ubuntu never work? Why is there NO HELP here OR on google for even doing the simplest of tasks? Why am i stuck between windoze 7 (doesnt work), ubuntu (POS), and mac (not even gonna go there), with absolutely no help from even SUPPORT people and websites?
[18:59] <awaad> doleyb : does gdb give me the chance to write assembly to the processor in the real time mode ?
[18:59] <penguin42> Varanger: sounds like dbus isn't running    try   start dbus
[18:59] <mamad876> does anybody now, why hibernate option just disappeared in my Lucid upgrade on Thinkpad? (2GB RAM, 4GB Swap)
[18:59] <Shapeshifter> geekphreak: apart from that, ctrl-alt-del used to be reboot. not shutdown
[18:59] <erUSUL> michaelxq: try « sudo aptitude intall ubuntu-desktop »
[18:59] <Loshki> short: cli mail in linux uses a front end and a back end. apt-get install ssmtp will install the back end. As for the .mailrc, that's really for the front end so it depends which client you use to create the email. For a cli client, mailx is probably what you'll want. What's in your .mailrc?
[18:59] <geekphreak> Shapeshifter: it gives shutdown too, this aint windows
[18:59] <kjele> futura: And the real question is?
[18:59] <Varanger> penguin42: ok, just dbus without any parameters?
[18:59] <erUSUL> futura: do you have an actual question ?
[18:59] <penguin42> Varanger: Yep
[18:59] <futura> I have a 5th gen ipod nano, which ubuntu detects and reads fine, as does rhythmbox. banshee, amarok, siongbird, and gtkpod wont show the ipod. In rhythmbox, it shows up and i can browse the pod and listen to it, but i cannot copy any song/playlist/ANYTHING to the ipod. Can someone tell me how i copy playlists to my ipod???
[18:59] <michaelxq> erSULU, do i accept those changes or not?
[19:00] <geekphreak> Shapeshifter: else right click panel on empty area>>add to panel >> add shutdown widget
[19:00] <futura> the same question ive asked for 2 days
[19:00] <reborn> is KPackageKit new in ubuntu 04.10?
[19:00] <Shapeshifter> geekphreak: nothing happens when I press ctrl-alt-del. Also, what has this to do with windows? ctrl-alt-del has been reboot on linux for "decades". and on winows, it's the taskmanager or something
[19:00] <Shapeshifter> geekphreak: I don't have a shutdown widget
[19:00] <amabo> is there a way to remove the gap shown in this screenshot? http://imgur.com/yoMsv.png - it allows for items to go below the main display (left)
[19:00] <Pici> reborn: The new version is 10.04, not 4.10.  And you'll find more Kubuntu specific information in #kubuntu
[19:00] <Shapeshifter> geekphreak: oh look. now the menu appeared. a minute late.
[19:01] <ljl> !ipod > futura i assume you have checked this out already, but just in case
[19:01] <geekphreak> Shapeshifter:  :p
[19:01] <reborn> Pici: i don't have Kubuntu. i have Ubuntu; THAT's why i am wondering!
[19:01] <kjele> futura: Too bad I never like apple.  The install went smoothly. However, when I turned the computer on again later, it only gets to a point where there is a blinking cursor on a black screen and the OS does not boot. Can anyone help me debug this?
[19:01] <geekphreak> Shapeshifter:  there is 1 more thing you can do
[19:01] <Pici> reborn: kpackagekit is for kubuntu, why are you asking about it?
[19:01] <italic> if i do not want my postgres server to start at boot, where should i look to change?
[19:02] <reborn> Pici: it is in my ubuntu installation, for whatever reason! out fo the box
[19:02] <wise_crypt> futura: http://www.google.co.id/search?hl=id&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=ipod+nano+ubuntu+how+to&meta=&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
[19:02] <jongbergs> Mcl0vin: neet to go to bed, it's 2am in the morning..i hope you would find somebody to help you out..btw, you may try creating another user account if the error comes out.
[19:02] <kjele> the_padawan2: I do not know if it is a bug or not but restart it with ctrl + alt + delete and it should work again. I just experience something similiar today when I installed ubuntu
[19:02] <Shapeshifter> meh it seems like this thing still has problems. gnome doesn't like this machine. when I log in, it takes 1 minute to show the panel. when I want to add a widget to the panel, it takes a minute to load the window. ctrl-alt-del takes a minute to show the dialog.
[19:02] <futura> Well i guess i have no choice but to do this stupid *((*&^(%*(^%*)%^ rockbox bullsh**
[19:02] <Shapeshifter> been like this last time I tried half a year ago
[19:03] <erUSUL> futura: i know is not what you want to hear but if you do not wnat to deal with apple (quote and mac (not even gonna go there) ) do not buy an ipod
[19:03] <the_padawan2> kjele: ctrl+alt+del does nothing :( any other ideas?
[19:03] <Pici> reborn: I only see it listed as a default package for Kubuntu and Edubuntu, not for Ubuntu itself.
[19:03] <mamad876> italic: sudo update-rc.d postgresql-8.4 disable
[19:03] <kjele> the_padawan2: alt + Sysrq + r then do it
[19:03] <lucas-arg> when does ubuntu jaunty support last?
[19:03] <wise_crypt> futura: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=650353
[19:03] <futura> erUSUL: ive never bought an ipod in my life. it was a gift, and i cant afford any other mp3 player.
[19:03] <Pici> lucas-arg: ~ 6 months from now.
[19:03] <italic> mamad876: thanks
[19:04] <geekphreak> the_padawan2:  you can try 1 more thing too
[19:04] <lucas-arg> Pici: ok thanks
[19:04] <JoshuaL> whenever i suspend my laptop and move locations it tries to connect to the wireless accesspoint from the previous location, of course this one cant be found, i have to manually connect to the right ap, how to solve this?
[19:04] <the_padawan2> kjele: sysrq? what is that?
[19:04] <kjele> the_padawan2: Could also try altgr + printscreen + k
[19:04] <zamba> i need to establish as ssh tunnel from a machine behind NAT so i can ssh back to this machine from outside
[19:04] <disappearedng_> Hey I think scim chinese input sucks is there any other substitue online?
[19:04] <zamba> how can i do that?
[19:04] <wise_crypt> futura: http://www.petitiononline.com/itmslin/petition.html
[19:04] <the_padawan2> geekphreak: i'm all ears
[19:04] <geekphreak> the_padawan2:  can you press alt+f2 , type gnome-session-save  --shutdown-dialog
[19:04] <lucas-arg> i had to dowongrade from lucid... awefull release
[19:04] <EagleScreen> lucas-arg: then you have a big problem
[19:04] <the_padawan2> geekphreak: nothing, completely unresponsive
[19:04] <Shapeshifter> now I can't rightclick on the stupid panel anymore. stuff is broken
[19:05] <intugo> Lucid is a very nice release.
[19:05] <wise_crypt> lucas-arg: why?
[19:05] <enriq> I have an IDE DVD-ROM and a SATA HD, should I set the DVD drive to master or slave?
[19:05] <mamad876> lucas-arg: why?
[19:05] <geekphreak> the_padawan2: huh?
[19:05] <the_padawan2> geekphreak: i don't believe the kernel has even loaded at the point where it hangs
[19:05] <intugo> Super fast...
[19:05] <v0lksman> enriq, doesn't matter
[19:05] <enriq> thx
[19:05] <ryniek> hi everyone
[19:05] <intugo> Hi.
[19:05] <lucas-arg> too many bugs in Xorg, and iw3945... outdated apps, problems with synaptic and spanish translation
[19:06] <ryniek> i have a question
[19:06] <JoshuaL> !ask | ryniek
[19:06] <Loshki> lucas-arg: it's just out of the gate. I expect it to improve over the next couple of months...
[19:06] <geekphreak> ryniek: try asking, if someone can , they will help
[19:06] <kjele> the_padawan2: Read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key . Though it is just my theory of how to resolve it
[19:06] <ryniek> yep, ok
[19:06] <mamad876> for me it seems more stable than 9.10
[19:06] <geekphreak> kjele: you on lucid?
[19:06] <wise_crypt> lucas-arg: /j #ubuntu-devel
[19:06] <ryniek> ubuntu brainstorm have own irc channel?
[19:07] <kjele> geekphreak: I am on maverick :)
[19:07] <geekphreak> :)
[19:07] <ljl> wise_crypt: ehm?
[19:07] <AphisOne> I did the update to 10.04 and now any time I attempt to install a package I get an error stating that "Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx_2%3a8.723.1-0ubuntu3_i386.deb"
[19:07] <StephenLinux> whats the best irc cllient in your opinion?
[19:07] <Pici> ryniek: #ubuntu-brainstorm oddly enough
[19:07] <mauiie> Dev Q!: I have a question about development! It has to do with RFID-CHIP(reader),Touchscreen,and simplicity in O/S (pref ubuntu) to change diffrent values over time and realtime. Anyone who has the proper knowledge please contact me.
[19:07] <ljl> !best
[19:07] <ryniek> imo x-chat
[19:07] <the_padawan2> kjele: well, i found the sys rq key, but no dice
[19:07] <mickster04> StephenLinux: irssi for cli
[19:07] <geekphreak> Stephen nothing like best, choose what works for you
[19:07] <wise_crypt> !poll > StephenLinux
[19:07] <Karim_416> X-Chat on linux looks far better then the windows version!
[19:07] <flansuse> the_padawan2, just remember: Raising Skinny Elephants Is So Utterly Boring
[19:07] <AphisOne> I found Bug 565407 -<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but I can't figure out how to correct this issue
[19:07] <ryniek> Pici thanks
[19:08] <Fill23> how i can access windows mobile phone from ubuntu?
[19:08] <the_padawan2> flansuse: huh?
[19:08] <kjele> the_padawan2: power it off then. And try the recovery kernel with grub menu. Just hold shift after the bios image
[19:08] <alket> Does anyone recently bought netbook UNR from Dell ?
[19:08] <mamad876> AphisOne: did you try to remove all items in cache?
[19:08] <ljl> Fill23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/WindowsMobile
[19:08] <AphisOne> mamad876, how do I do that?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[19:08] <flansuse> the_padawan2, is a mnemonic for remember the key combination to use on the Magic SysRq keys for safely rebooting if your system hangs or freezes.
[19:08] <the_padawan2> kjele: ok! got to the grub menu, chose recovery kernel
[19:09] <JoshuaL> does anyone have the global menu installed in lucid? it still shows the gtk menu for me
[19:09] <arvind_khadri> qwd, hey i found out a sip client, twinkle...
[19:09] <the_padawan2> flansuse: ah, thank you for that.
[19:09] <Fill23> ljl: thx
[19:09] <ryniek> what do You think about my idea: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24086/
[19:09] <mauiie> Dev Q!: I have a question about development! It has to do with RFID-CHIP(reader),Touchscreen,and simplicity in O/S (pref ubuntu) to change diffrent values over time and realtime. Anyone who has the proper knowledge please contact me.
[19:09] <kjele> geekphreak: Was you able to help the guy to uninstall the nvidia driver today?
[19:09] <flansuse> the_padawan2, you would press: ALT + PrtScn + R + S + E + I + S + U + B
[19:10] <geekphreak> kjele: last i talked to him, he was talking about some other issues with usb drive not being mounted
[19:10] <Orolon1> hey....can anyone help me configure my soundcard for 5.1 sound with lucid lynx? im very new to ubuntu :-)
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> if I have a dual core U2500  @ 1.20GHz 32bit. Will I get a smooter / faster experience with the linux-image-386 ?
[19:10] <mamad876> AphisOne: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx_2%3a8.723.1-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[19:10] <kane77> i can't believe it my school finally has ooffice templates for thesis!!
[19:10] <Vigo> Orlon1: Have you looked on the forums?
[19:10] <geekphreak> kjele: his system was backup and running though
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Orolon1: run: sudo lshw -C sound     websearch for the product line for guides
[19:10] <flansuse> ActionParsnip, it's not a 64-bit processor?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> flansuse: not this one
[19:11] <flansuse> ActionParsnip, more than 4 GB of RAM?
[19:11] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: no
[19:11] <alteregoa> merike: get another OS
[19:11] <kjele> geekphreak: I see. What I did not understand is why not uninstall the driver from jockey
[19:11] <jove> folks, has anyone upgrade Ubuntu 9.10 -> 10.04 successful ? are there any 10.04 running better and no issue ?
[19:11] <Orolon1> ummm, sry? again, im new to ubuntu just downloaded it yesterday cus im finally fed up with win
[19:11] <freku> dual core but not 64 ?
[19:11] <xae8koo> Hello
[19:11] <xae8koo> I need an automatic facebook thingi
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> flansuse: 3Gb
[19:11] <the_padawan2> kjele: the startup of the recovery kernel has hanged. The last message is about the b43-pci-bridge
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> freku: address sizes	: 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
[19:11] <kjele> the_padawan2: Does it still flash now?
[19:11] <xae8koo> One that autolikes stuff!
[19:11] <flansuse> ActionParsnip, then use the standard i386 kernel.
[19:11] <alteregoa> jove: i use 9.10 but with 2.6.33 kernel
[19:11] <mamad876> jove: I did, and it's OK
[19:12] <alteregoa> 10.4 is to buggy for my opinion
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> freku: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU      U2500  @ 1.20GHz
[19:12] <alteregoa> i'll wait till those bugs are fixed
[19:12] <geekphreak> kjele: could always do that, good idea
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> flansuse: cheers, just came to me today
[19:12] <the_padawan2> kjele: i did previously install proprietary wifi drivers using the ubuntu GUI
[19:12] <jove> thanks mamad876
[19:12] <futura> When using gtkpod, do i have to install libgpod if its a 5th gen?
[19:12] <Chripher> anyone seen zorg
[19:12] <Chripher> or zorgzorg2 on the ubuntu forum
[19:12] <Shapeshifter> this, ladies and gentlemen, is crap.
[19:13] <flansuse> ActionParsnip, is 4 GB or more, best to use the -pae kernel.
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Shapeshifter: what is?
[19:13] <alteregoa> i played zork 20 years ago, but i never seen it
[19:13] <geekphreak> Shapeshifter: excuse me?
[19:13] <Vigo> Orolon1: Go to the Ubuntu site, look at , wait, I will pull it up for you, and welcome to Ubuntu.
[19:13] <Loshki> alteregoa: that's reasonable, though they will be fixed faster if you file bugs for them...
[19:13] <Chripher> how to use seen coomadn
[19:13] <Shapeshifter> geekphreak: as I said...
[19:13] <AphisOne> mamad876, I've tried that before... didn't work... I just did `sudo aptitude clean` both caused fglrx to re-download when I went to do an install
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> flansuse: 3Gb is enough. I know about pae ;)
[19:13] <Shapeshifter> meh it seems like this thing still has problems. gnome doesn't like this machine. when I log in, it takes 1 minute to show the panel. when I want to add a widget to the panel, it takes a minute to load the window. ctrl-alt-del takes a minute to show the dialog.
[19:13] <mikejet> What s the name of the program that runs as the screen saver? i want to replace that.
[19:13] <geekphreak> Shapeshifter: open terminal , sudo poweroff
[19:13] <MacB> Does the new LTS Ubuntu install how easily on a White Macbook 2009 Summer edition? :/
[19:13] <kjele> the_padawan2: That suck very much.
[19:13] <Orolon1> thanky vigo =)
[19:13] <merike> alteregoa: want to explain that suggestion? makes no sense otherwise
[19:13] <MacB> Since the old ones were hell to even get booted up from the CD
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Shapeshifter: use kde or xfce or lxde or enlightenment
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Shapeshifter: to name but a few
[19:13] <alteregoa> merike: sense is relative
[19:14] <Shapeshifter> geekphreak, ActionParsnip: those are not solutions to the problem.
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Shapeshifter: gnome is not always the answer
[19:14] <geekphreak> Shapeshifter:  did you update, or fresh install?
[19:14] <lappert> I need some help, i'm trying to install a game using playonlinux, but i only got the iso file, how do i mount iso images? Do i need some software or can i do it using the terminal
[19:14] <kjele> the_padawan2: I think that if you use the magic key with f it should kill that and let you through
[19:14] <Vigo> Orolon1: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/desktopedition
[19:14] <erUSUL> !iso | lappert
[19:14] <Shapeshifter> geekphreak: fresh install. I thought I'd try out ubuntu again.
[19:14] <the_padawan2> kjele: haha yeah. it seems others have run into this problem but i'm not sure yet of the cause. Fortunately it does not seem to be a harware failure. The computer is quite new (<3 months)
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> lappert: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/iso
[19:15] <legend2440> is this the lucid help channel now? or is it still #ubuntu+1?
[19:15] <Shapeshifter> I use archlinux on my laptop and desktop, custom setup, everything's brilliant but on this machine, family living room HTPC, I thought something like ubuntu might work.
[19:15] <kjele> the_padawan2: Maybe too new...
[19:15] <caldwell> how do i fix a choppy video in movie player
[19:15] <Pici> legend2440: Its here.
[19:15] <nocturnus> if you boot from a usb stick called "kittymeow", can you installed to "kittymeow" from the live environment?
[19:15] <geekphreak> Shapeshifter:  on fresh install it should be ok umm, did you uninstall anything or play with any settings?
[19:15] <erUSUL> legend2440: the former
[19:15] <Vigo> Orolon1: and here>: https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[19:15] <legend2440> Pici: thanks
[19:15] <the_padawan2> kjele: ubuntu 9.10 ran beautifully, so the support is there
[19:15] <Loshki> Shapeshifter: Sorry, just noticed this discussion.  It was like this from the very first startup
[19:15] <AphisOne> mamad876, I recieved "Preparing to replace fglrx 2:8.723.1-0ubuntu3 (using .../fglrx_2%3a8.723.1-0ubuntu3_i386.deb) ..." then a Warning and it doesn't get to the install I'm trying to do.
[19:15] <Orolon1> alright ill check it out, thanks
[19:15] <geekphreak> huh wierd
[19:15] <kjele> the_padawan2: You do not have any chance the old kernel
[19:15] <kjele> the_padawan2: ?
[19:15] <Jaelae> woohoo ubuntu one is finally functioning properly :)
[19:15] <nocturnus> anyone?
[19:16] <peanutpan> WHY???:  genisoimage: Error: '(null)' and './imagecopy/rr_moved' have the same Rock Ridge name 'rr_moved'.
[19:16] <geekphreak> Jaelae:  :)
[19:16] <the_padawan2> kjele: not sure. i've got whatever comes fresh off the install CD
[19:16] <m4dv0y> anyone have an iphone here
[19:16] <m4dv0y> ??
[19:16] <Jaelae> shut it down, left came back - now it works
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> nocturnus: if you have spare space then maybe
[19:16] <merike> alteregoa: many things are, this isn't helpful at all when solving problems though
[19:16]  * Jaelae shrugs.
[19:16] <stephen_> how do you send messages to someone in particular?
[19:16] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, what do you think the cause is?
[19:16] <g0ddi3> Hello
[19:16] <the_padawan2> kjele: i didn't even do an apt-get update
[19:16] <geekphreak> m4dv0y:  nope, you can send me one, i am open to offer
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> nocturnus: i'd use an addidtional device to install from
[19:16] <the_padawan2> kjele: upgrade*
[19:16] <caldwell> ,AJ_ZO wats up
[19:16] <m4dv0y> can i send stuff to an iphone in ubuntu?
[19:16] <Shapeshifter> Loshki: yep, nothing is eating CPU. trying to "add to panel..." takes 1 minute, and hitting "close" on that dialog again takes a minute
[19:17] <Loshki> nocturnus: you want to install to the medium you're booting from? In general, that doesn't work. You might google the 'toram' boot option though...
[19:17] <stream_venom> hello all
[19:17] <sunshinepants> do any gnome fans know how to have the notification area applet anchor from the right as opposed from the left?
[19:17] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, what video card?
[19:17] <Vigo> Oroloni1: I spent about 5 days on the forums when 6.04 came out, I still use them often as well as the official and community Documentation.
[19:17] <nocturnus> Loshki: okay - how can i install ubuntu to a hardrive from another linuxA?
[19:17] <RemunJ66> problem(s) upgrading to 10.04. No desktop, just black terminal screen :-\
[19:17] <nocturnus> Loshki: which iso do i download?
[19:17] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: nvidia. but that doesn't matter as it was the same when nouveau was still in use. now I'm using nvidia.
[19:17] <g0ddi3> When i try to add a packetsource with the command: "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/jd-team/jdownloader/ubuntu lucid main" then there is the failure "Deb not found" what should i do?
[19:17] <nocturnus> Loshki: i have ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:17] <hacker> w ubuntu
[19:17] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, what do you think the cause may be, though?
[19:17] <stephen_> is this #ubuntu?
[19:17] <Loshki> Shapeshifter: if you login to an xterm session is the cli slow too?
[19:17] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: and everything is snappy. It must be a gnome/glib g-anything problem
[19:17] <keverbur> remon: what is your graphics card?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> m4dv0y: sure, bluetooth file sending is a defacto protocol as long as the iphone suppports bluetooth file sends
[19:18] <kjele> the_padawan2: Then you don't. There are a few option now. Either reinstall and upgrade everything before you install the wifi driver. Or chroot into the sytem with the live cd and upgrade the system there. The first option is the easiest.
[19:18] <Shapeshifter> Loshki: no, everything is quick apart from specific actions inside the gnome desktop
[19:18] <nocturnus> Guest42267: are you really a hacker?
[19:18] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, so the interface runs smooth, but it takes forever to load new dialogues and windows?
[19:18] <m4dv0y> mmm
[19:18] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: no idea
[19:18] <m4dv0y> bluetooth?
[19:18] <crdlb> sunshinepants: if you find the applet in gconf-editor /apps/panel/applets, there's a 'panel_right_stick' option
[19:18] <stephen_> hi
[19:18] <robertzaccour> i found a bug involving my new netbook, i reported it this morning
[19:18] <robertzaccour> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/574406
[19:18] <robertzaccour> thats the bug
[19:18] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: yes, some. e.g. the panel the first time, ctrl-alt-delete-dialog, add to panel...
[19:18] <m4dv0y> damn i don't have bluetooth built in my notebook
[19:18] <kjele> the_padawan2: With chroot you can also blacklist the b43-pci bridge module
[19:18] <Loshki> Shapeshifter: I guess I'm with whoever said try a different desktop then...
[19:18] <keverbur> remon?
[19:18] <lappert> actionparsnip: media/iso; what am i supposed to replace that with? :P
[19:19] <sunshinepants> crdlb: sweet thanks
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> g0ddi3: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jd-team/jdownloader; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install jdownloader
[19:19] <sanderqd> hey, something went wrong when repartitioning my hdd. i'm trying to reboot from a usb drive, but i get a grub rescue prompt with "error: no such partition". any way to boot from the usb drive anyway?
[19:19] <keverbur> remun: what is your graphjcs card?
[19:19] <nocturnus> Loshki: i don't see any of the common unix directories like usr and var in the iso
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> lappert: that is to be left, all you need to change is the path to the iso file
[19:19] <Shapeshifter> does someone know what app the ctrl-alt-del dialog is?
[19:19] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, on Arch, did you use the GNOME desktop?
[19:19] <Shapeshifter> so I can run it from a cli and see what is going on.
[19:19] <the_padawan2> kjele: i would prefer the chroot method as i've spent some time yesterday setting up a virtual machine. Can you give some pointers or perhaps direct me to a link?
[19:19] <g0ddi3> ActionParsnip: Thx
[19:19] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: no, on this machine I used KDE, on my own machines I use a custom setup (xinitrc and stuff)
[19:19] <Pici> Shapeshifter: gnome-system-montior i believe.
[19:19] <Shapeshifter> Pici: thanks
[19:20] <kjele> the_padawan2: I walk you through then
[19:20] <Loshki> nocturnus: some distros load entirely into ram, and never access the medium again after boot. With one of those, you could boot and then install back to the boot medium. It's probably not for beginners though...
[19:20] <lappert> actionparsnip: i left that and got this: mount point /media/is does not exist
[19:20] <legend2440> since doing a clean install of Lucid which includes Firefox 3.6.3 i've noticed that when i go to Google home page and change the Search Settings to      Do not provide query suggestions in the search box and hit the Save Preferences button that the change does not "stick". i have to change the setting every time i open a new instance of Firefox.  i don't like it when i start typing and Search gives me suggestions. Any ideas?
[19:20] <kjele> the_padawan2: Boot into the live cd
[19:20] <Shapeshifter> Pici: nah that's not it.
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Shapeshifter: the command: top    does the same
[19:20] <the_padawan2> kjele: that'd be great!
[19:20] <respire> what is the best way to test if the user ususally uses root account for admin or sudo? Simply check if they have sudo access or is there better (since you can set this as an option with the alternate install disc I wonder if it leaves a marker)
[19:20] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, one way to narrow down the culprit is to true a LiveCD of a GNOME desktop on the family PC.
[19:20] <Shapeshifter> ActionParsnip: I was talking about ctrl-alt-del, where this dialog pops up which gives you a "shutdown" option.
[19:20] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, something like Foresight perhaps, since it showcases the latest GNOME.
[19:20] <soreau> how do I get rid of evolution so volume icon is the only thing in the indicator bar?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> lappert: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/iso
[19:20] <flansuse> *is to try
[19:20] <nocturnus> soreau: do you know
[19:21] <soreau> right now evolution puts a white envelope in there
[19:21] <MacB> Any "tutorials" detailing installing 10.4 using a USB stick? Or just installing any onto a white macbook?
[19:21] <MacB> Or what would be the easiest way to get this thing onto a white macbook.... :S
[19:21] <mamad876> AphisOne: try "sudo apt-get -f install" (I'm not sure it helps anyway!)
[19:21] <michaelxq> i've downloaded cdda2wav-1.0c and i don't know how to install it. Can anyone help me
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> !info cdda2wav
[19:21] <lappert> actionparsnip: i'l try again :P
[19:21] <Loshki> respire: why does it matter which one they use? Most ubuntu distros don't even have a usable root password unless/until you set one up...
[19:21] <sanderqd> is there anyway to make the liveUSB grub not check the hdd?
[19:21] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, gnome-session-save  --shutdown-dialog
[19:21] <geekphreak> soreau:  right click >> remove from panel?
[19:21] <Vigo> legend2440: In Settings , Edit Preferences you can change that.
[19:22] <tessarakt> gnaaa ...
[19:22] <MacB> Any "tutorials" detailing installing 10.4 using a USB stick? Or just installing any onto a white macbook?
[19:22] <xangua> michaelxq: sudo aptitude install cdda2way
[19:22] <AphisOne> mamad876, "dpkg-divert: mismatch on package"
[19:22] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: thanks
[19:22] <robertzaccour> i found a bug involving my new netbook, i reported it this morning
[19:22] <tessarakt> since yesterday's update to Lucid XChat causes my desktop to freeze
[19:22] <MacB> Or how should I "burn" a USB install from OSX...?
[19:22] <michaelxq> xangua, i;ll try and let you know
[19:22] <robertzaccour> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/574406
[19:22] <robertzaccour> thats the bug
[19:22] <xangua> !usb > MacB
[19:22] <Pici> robertzaccour: And?
[19:22] <tessarakt> XChat paints the user list, and in the middle of that everything freezes
[19:23] <soreau> geekphreak: That will remove the entire indicator applet including the volume icon. All's I want is the volume icon, not evolution but they are both in the same tray
[19:23] <futura> okokok, no can someone walk me through troubleshooting GTKPOD? because i cant do it, and i dont understand much of this god-forsaken terminology.
[19:23] <peanutpan> help!!!  any other way to produce a burnable iso besides mkisofs or genisoimage???
[19:23] <robertzaccour> Pici, and this is the ubuntu support channel?
[19:23] <tessarakt> NumLock does not work anymore, no other noticable activity
[19:23] <kjele> the_padawan2: Tell me when you are inside
[19:23] <lappert> actionparsnip: thanks, got it to work now
[19:23] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: (gnome-session-save:1620): WARNING **: Failed to call shutdown: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[19:23] <trism> soreau: I'm not sure removing evolution will help, but you might try removing indicator-messages, what's what populates the envelope part of the indicator-applet
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> lappert: its suprisingly simple ;)
[19:23] <temon> any one have recomended vga card for my lucid and core i3 procesorr??? I love game... suck as couter strike... but I not have a windows...
[19:23] <tessarakt> any idea?
[19:23] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: that appears after about 20 seconds. after another 20, the dialog shows up
[19:23] <geekphreak> huh
[19:23] <legend2440> Vigo: do you mean the Edit>Preferences  in Firefox?   if so, i'm not seeing it
[19:23] <tessarakt> graphics driver?
[19:23] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, that sounds not good.
[19:23] <the_padawan2> kjele: will do. i just clicked the "try ubuntu" button in the installer
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> temon: nvidia
[19:23] <Pici> robertzaccour: If thats a true bug then we aren't going to be able to help you.  If you have a question here, please write the question all on one line and we'll try to answer.
[19:23] <the_padawan2> kjele: i have terminal via alt+F2
[19:24] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: sounds like a dbus error to me
[19:24] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, I know it's obvious, but y ou have fully updated packages?
[19:24] <lappert> actionparsnip: yeah, just first time user of linux, was sick of windows and well read alot and decided to go for ubuntu
[19:24] <mamad876> AphisOne, try this then: "sudo dpkg --configure -a; sudo dpkg --audit"
[19:24] <tessarakt> gnaaa
[19:24] <robertzaccour> Pici, you mean you wouldn't be able to help me. can't speak for everyone else
[19:24] <tessarakt> Nouveau driver
[19:24] <kjele> the_padawan2: write sudo fdisk -l
[19:24] <tessarakt> does it switch automatically?
[19:24] <wise_crypt> futura: http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/FAQ
[19:24] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: mhh, doesn't ubuntu take the latest packages from the net upon installing?
[19:24] <temon> actionParsnip: why nvidia?? what series?? or nvidia all series??
[19:24] <the_padawan2> kjele: ok, 3 partitions on sda (/,swap, /home)
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> lappert: its worth a look, there are other linux distros to try too
[19:25]  * Shapeshifter runs the updater
[19:25] <kjele> the_padawan2: I just need with block device / is on
[19:25] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, after install the update manager might give you a notice about new packages.
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> temon: all, nvidia support for linux is phenominal
[19:25] <futura> i REALLLY dont need any more links, i need actual help.
[19:25] <Pici> robertzaccour: I mean if its a programming error then we'll probably not be able to help.  Questions do not belong on the bugtracker.
[19:25] <the_padawan2> kjele: /dev/sda1
[19:25] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: it did not. and this is also taking ages to load
[19:25] <lappert> actionparsnip: yeah, just got the understanding that ubuntu is kind of "noob" friendly :P
[19:25] <trism> soreau: although, you could completely remove the indicator applet and add gnome-volume-control-applet to System/Preference/Startup Applications and it will show up in the notification area like in karmic
[19:25] <michaelxq> xangua, __could not find any package__
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> lappert: many others are too, mandriva, fedora, suse are all nice and friendly
[19:25] <tessarakt> how do I switch to the nvidia driver?
[19:25] <kjele> the_padawan2: You in luck then. I made a script that should automate stuff for you
[19:26] <Vigo> lagend2440: Yes, I think that is in the Advanced tab
[19:26] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, does the same thing happen if you try this: gnome-control-center
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | tessarakt
[19:26] <Pici> robertzaccour: If you have a support question, just ask in here :)
[19:26] <robertzaccour> Pici, bugs belong on bugtracker right? i thought it was a bug. could using a headset instead maybe help?
[19:26] <mamad876> tessarakt, System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[19:26] <lappert> actionparsnip: what distro are you using? and what distro would you reccomend for me to try?
[19:26] <tessarakt> thanks
[19:26] <the_padawan2> kjele: hooray!
[19:26] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: nope that comes up instantly
[19:26] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: my system is up to date apparently.
[19:26] <tessarakt> and uinder KDE?
[19:27] <TheCheeze> has anyone else had issues with WINE sound after installing 10.04? i only get sound with the OSS driver, but full volume with no control
[19:27] <soreau> trism: Ahhh!!! thanks!!
[19:27] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, well, one option is to file a bug report, and also to try with another Live CD that uses GNOME.
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> lappert: i use gentoo and ubuntu. try as many as you wish, they are all free. its fun
[19:27] <michaelxq> xangua: i;ll try and let you know
[19:27] <kjele> the_padawan2: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/427167/
[19:27] <sebsebseb> awesome ActionParsnip is here
[19:27] <plum> hey guys, how do i auto-mount partitions in 10.04?
[19:27] <C-S-B> Urgh, I can get my hotkey to eject if I create a new hotkey command that runs the 'eject' command but then it doesnt do the nice notification.
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> TheCheeze: works perfect here. HalfLife2 runs great
[19:27] <temon> actionparsnip: are you gamers?
[19:27] <Ramon> As I put my conky more to the left and down?
[19:27] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, at least it will reveal if it's a GNOME or Ubuntu issue.
[19:27] <stephen_> fstab
[19:27] <C-S-B> a
[19:27] <kjele> the_padawan2: There is a lot of other stuff to uncomment if you do not want them
[19:27] <Ramon> this is the picture of my conky; http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2930/capturadetelacs.png
[19:27] <C-S-B> anyone have any ideas?
[19:27] <CogitoErgoSam> if anyone is getting a black screen after grub and before GDM with a laptop w/ integrated intel graphics....modify grub's parameters to pass i915.modeset=1
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> temon: i play penumbra, frets on fire and half life 2
[19:27] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: I'm pretty sure it's a gnome thing as I had the same problem like half a year ago when I ran gnome on Arch on this machine. Something essential is broken
[19:27] <lappert> actionparsnip: yeah true, i'l try and get most of the stuff to work properly in ubuntu before i try something else i think though
[19:27] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip, you might know. :)
[19:28] <TheCheeze> ActionParsnip, both ffxi and ventrilo are not giving me any audio :(
[19:28] <tessarakt> ok, thanks for now, I'll try my luck
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> TheCheeze: are you using an audiy sound card?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> *audiy
[19:28] <lappert> i got ventrilo with sound working in wine
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> audigy
[19:28] <CogitoErgoSam> anyone having problems with Empathy connecting to Google talk after installing 10.04 even with the server set manually to talk.google.com?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> stupid keyboard
[19:28] <TheCheeze> ActionParsnip, on-board nvidia-based
[19:28] <the_padawan2> kjele: i'm going to have to disconnect from IRC to steal this computer's ethernet cable for the apt-get upgrade
[19:28] <lappert> i have to have wine windows open for ptt to work though :S
[19:28] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: I am thinking much more about switching over computer to Mandriva as well :)  after the Plymouth issues I have been experiencing in Ubuntu 10.04,  since it doesn't like the propritary Nivida driver.  However I remember you removed Plymouth since didn't like it, thing is when I try to do this, it  wants to remove a load of other stuff with it,  including stuff that has nothing to do with it such as F-Spot and Banshee.
[19:28] <dpac> Does updating a kernel resets the kernel parameters set in grub.conf?
[19:28] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: other not over above
[19:28] <kjele> the_padawan2: ok
[19:29] <silverdrake11> Does anyone know how I can change the boot splash screen resolution to 1366x768? It looks stretched, zoomed in, and ugly?
[19:29] <the_padawan2> kjele: ok, talk to you soon, thank a ton!
[19:29] <CogitoErgoSam> dpac: it shouldn't
[19:29] <VladimirBG> apt-get started acting up on me after I installed and un-installed an app. I get this message http://pastebin.com/ANUucUjW
[19:29] <mamad876> dpac, I think not!
[19:29] <silverdrake11> Does anyone know how I can change the boot splash screen resolution to 1366x768? It looks stretched, zoomed in, and ugly.
[19:29] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, well, maybe it's changed since then? Maybe another Live CD distro using GNOME will not have this problem? You can always safely test out that theory.
[19:29] <CogitoErgoSam> dpac: grub.conf is generated automatically based on /etc/default/grub
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: maybe it was an alpha release but it seemed to be removable.   Pre bios?  Post bios?  Pre grub?  Post grub?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> lappert: have you consulted the appdb for additional tweaks for the game?
[19:30] <The_ManU_212> i use alsa as audio driver, play music on my host system and udner virtualbox my guest system cant play sound on the same time as sound is running on the host, i set allready alsa and blacklisted loaded oss modules (then reboot)
[19:30] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: however if I don't have the propritary Nivida graphics card driver installed, that means no OpenGL  and so no 3D games and such, and that's not a good thing at all for this other computer
[19:30] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, I believe both are GNOME 2.28, not 2.30 like Lucid ships with.
[19:30] <dpac> CogitoErgoSam, update-grub is triggered everytime kernel is updated, so that might reset the parameters, can't it not?
[19:30] <dto> hi. when i leave my desktop for a while and the monitors go into power save, the 2nd monitor is lost when the desktop comes back. the windows are moved to the main monitor
[19:30] <neverblue> no more ## in front of channel names for freenode ?
[19:30] <dto> and i have to go back into prefs
[19:30] <Chripher> Granis`: you here
[19:30] <Iowahc> CogitoErgoSam: Post bios, and pretty sure post grub
[19:30] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: I have read the web, other people have been having issues as well
[19:30] <dto> how can i fix 2nd monitor being lost when screen blanks?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: just let plymouth sit, there are tweaks for grub to make the bootsplash use a different driver
[19:31] <kjele> the_padawan2: You need to run as root but I hope you know that..
[19:31] <CogitoErgoSam> dpac: update grub doesn't change the boot parameters though, it just adds the kernel to the list
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: yeah i get the same but i dont care that it sits black :)
[19:31] <lappert> actionparsnip: nope, asked at winehq though, he suggested it might be the videocard driver, running ati atm so that might be the case
[19:31] <michaelxq> xangua, __could not find any package__
[19:31] <CogitoErgoSam> dpac: the boot params come from /etc/default/grub
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: i use the sunrise bootsplash on my intel lappy
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> lappert: it might be a good idea dude
[19:31] <the_padawan2> kjele: yup, will do
[19:31] <Snausages> X seems to be freaking out on my newly-upgraded netbook.  It flashes between a purple screen and a filemanager window about once a second.  Any ideas?
[19:31] <the_padawan2> kjele:  here i go
[19:31] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: I did get on to some sort of tutorail page that could maybe fix the issue, but I didn't understand it. http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[19:31] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, sorry, wrong button. Did I miss anything?
[19:31] <purvesh> how to run .gif images on Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[19:31] <Vigo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:32] <lappert> actionparsnip: i got a nvidia card lying around so i could try that
[19:32] <monty_hall> how can I get dhcp3-server to start @ boot?  Using ubuntu 10
[19:32] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: the sunrise  bootsplash>?
[19:32] <geekphreak> purvesh: click them?
[19:32] <gladiator> how do i install flash on 64 bit 10.04
[19:32] <Iowahc> CogitoErgoSam: any suggestion?
[19:32] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: you mean a Plymouth theme or?
[19:32] <nocturnus> anyone know?
[19:32] <purvesh> geekphreak, hi Bro how r u :)
[19:32] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: nah. I'm googling the error. trying something else is not an option, I'd just reinstall arch and kde and let the machine rot instead
[19:32] <Shapeshifter> if I can't get this working
[19:32] <Vigo> sebsebseb: srry: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto that is a good one.
[19:32] <dpac> CogitoErgoSam, Those are grub parameters in /etc/default/grub .. kernel parameters like 'nomodeset' etc are in grub.conf, isn't it?
[19:32] <CogitoErgoSam> Iow: Afraid i'm not too familiar with the server versions; don't wanna give you the wrong advice
[19:32] <geekphreak> purvesh: it should open , when you click it, hello bro
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-4xTkN1_RQ&feature=related
[19:33] <woodyjlw> playing with compiz on 10.04 and lost my minimize and exit from top of all windows... can some one tell me how to get it back I cant seem to figure it out lol
[19:33] <purvesh> geekphreak, but it is not running i mean Moving images
[19:33] <sebsebseb> Vigo: uhmm Grub 2 is not fun at all to mess with, neither was the old one, but  now days the old one tends to work rather well indeed
[19:33] <cjs> What's the ubuntu developer channel called?
[19:33] <geekphreak> purvesh:  sure they animated?
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> !controls | woodyjlw
[19:33] <mamad876> gladiator, "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[19:33] <nocturnus> is it possible?
[19:33] <Iowahc> CogitoErgoSam: My guess is, that the resolution of the "verbose" boot screen is to low / high.
[19:33] <Andrew12> cjs: i would assume #ubuntu-dev
[19:33] <CogitoErgoSam> dpac:  grub.conf is generated automatically by update-grub, and uses the parameter defaults that are set in /etc/default/grub
[19:33] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, it wasn't to try something else, but to reveal if it's a GNOME or Ubuntu problem.
[19:33] <purvesh> geekphreak, yup they work on Windows but not moving on Linux
[19:33] <xangua> gladiator: do you know 'ubuntu tweak' they have an option to add repositories incluiding flash for 64 bits
[19:33] <kjele> cjs: #ubuntu+1 but you need invite now
[19:33] <cjs> Ah, actually #ubuntu-devel.
[19:33] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: I still think it's a gnome problem
[19:33] <Vigo> sebsebseb: I tend to agree, but time and progress marches on.
[19:33] <woodyjlw> ActionParsnip, I know but I lost them all together
[19:33] <Andrew12> eh, i was close.
[19:33] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: non gnome apps runs smoothly all the way
[19:34] <cjs> kjele: This is a 10.04 issue.
[19:34] <gladiator> xangua: no
[19:34] <geekphreak> purvesh:  ok do this, press alt+f2 , type eog, open gif on this app
[19:34] <dpac> woodyjlw, try Alt+F2 and type metacity and enter.
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> woodyjlw: did you lost the window decorator too?
[19:34] <gladiator> xangua: ill check it out
[19:34] <purvesh> geekphreak, ok
[19:34] <dpac> CogitoErgoSam, Thanks, I got it :)
[19:34] <soreau> woodyjlw: Perhaps your wm or decorator crashed. Can you still move windows with Alt+Drag?
[19:35] <kjele> cjs: ok?
[19:35] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: I spent about five hours last night because of this Plymouth stuff, (well not just Plymouth stuff non stop)  and then I end up going to bed,  not that happy,  that the issue hadn't been fixed.
[19:35] <Shapeshifter> Uhm.... where does ubuntu keep the logs everything, errors and messages?
[19:35] <Snausages> can anyone help me fix my 10.04 upgrade on my netbook?  I can't figure out how to fix this display bug.
[19:35] <Shapeshifter> or rather, where does all the stuff go. I don't see them
[19:35] <lappert> actionparsnip: i'm currently testing another game to see if it's a problem with wine in general or just source engine games though
[19:35] <CogitoErgoSam> dpac:  To get my laptop with integrated intel graphics to boot, I went into /etc/default/grub and changed this line:
[19:35] <Mallen_> Could someone help me with mounting a HD in Ubuntu (SATA 500gb, Disk Utility sees it, also been reformated) I keep getting this error when I try to mount it.
[19:35] <CogitoErgoSam> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"              to:
[19:35] <geekphreak> Shapeshifter:  /var/log
[19:35] <CogitoErgoSam> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.modeset=1"
[19:35] <Mallen_> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[19:35] <CogitoErgoSam> and then ran update-grub
[19:35] <Mallen_> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /
[19:35] <FloodBot4> CogitoErgoSam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <Mallen_> mount failed
[19:35] <FloodBot4> Mallen_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <FloodBot4> FloodBot1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <Shapeshifter> geekphreak: well all three of them are not there....
[19:35] <woodyjlw> soreau,  can still drag windows and stuff just no close and minimize
[19:35] <purvesh> geekphreak, same prob not moving
[19:35] <cjs> kjele: Hmmm?
[19:35] <tessarakt> hmm
[19:35] <tessarakt> the start screen looks strange with nvidia
[19:35] <sebsebseb> Vigo: a lot of nweer Linux apps such really,  Grub 2, and GDM 2, for example
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: its only a boot splash dude, i believe the bug is logged so just hangout and it will get attended
[19:35] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, I believe in /var/log as well?
[19:35] <tessarakt> wrong resolution
[19:36] <soreau> woodyjlw: Ok, try gtk-window-decorator --replace from Alt+F2 run dialog
[19:36] <nocturnus> oops, i've rejoined, does anyone know?
[19:36] <nocturnus> tessarakt: try changing it
[19:36] <xangua> gladiator: the PPA for flash 64 bits https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[19:36] <tessarakt> but kdm looks ok
[19:36] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: messages is there, but everything and errors are not
[19:36] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: I have xsplash installed on there as well, some how I could get it using that instead
[19:36] <cjs> kjele: Are you an Ubuntu developer? Can you take a look at what I just posted on #ubuntu-devel?
[19:36] <tessarakt> phonon is annoying
[19:36] <tessarakt> complains about not working audio device
[19:36] <dpac> CogitoErgoSam, thankyou, that cleared my doubts... I had to use nomodeset too to get Lucid to boot, however I added it in grub.conf
[19:36] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: problem is Plymouth wants to take a load of other stuff with that, should be there, when I try to remove it, ah!
[19:36] <tessarakt> and then I get sound anyway
[19:36] <gladiator> xangua: thanks, looking into it
[19:36] <tessarakt> nocturnus, where?
[19:36] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: with it, not with that, above
[19:36] <kfries6> I have a problem... I used my LL desktop to create a bootable flash stick using the LL-UNR ISO image.  When we boot from the drive it asks for a username/password... Huh?
[19:36] <amabo> how do i switch between open channels with the keyboard in XCHat?
[19:36] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, not at an Ubuntu computer right now, sorry.
[19:36] <kjele> cjs: I am not a developer
[19:36] <Shapeshifter> yay there are kernel traces in messages
[19:37] <CogitoErgoSam> dpac:  No prob, I just got it sorted out earlier today and wanted to pass it on to others with the same prob
[19:37] <geekphreak> amabo:  i think alt+1/2/3
[19:37] <xangua> amabo: control+tab¿
[19:37] <Mallen_> Can anyone help me with a HD failing to mount?
[19:37] <geekphreak> amabo: choose number
[19:37] <cesio> ciao a tutti
[19:37] <newcomer123> does anyone know why i have to constantly skip a couple folders during boot up of lucid lynx? (pressing S at boot up to skip some mounting thing i have no understanding of..)
[19:37] <neverblue> Mallen_: what type of harddrive ?
[19:37] <WaLLabiee> Anyone with a spare time to help a beginner with the ubuntuserver? I have questions but dunno what exactly to ask, so if possible someone on private to help me at least find some basic answers...?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: your call dude, i'd just sit tight. If you use any other linux distro it will still be linux so will most likely have the same issue
[19:37] <amabo> geekphreak: thanks :)
[19:37] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: yes exactly
[19:37] <Vigo> sebsebseb: I am getting way off-topic now, I think, I also agree with that statement.
[19:38] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: which is why I went to the Mandriva channel asking about that
[19:38] <purvesh> geekphreak, what would be cause ...
[19:38] <amabo> is it possible to have different calibration profiles for different connected monitors?
[19:38] <geekphreak> WaLLabiee: ask here please
[19:38] <geekphreak> amabo: wleocme
[19:38] <Mallen_> neverblue: 500gb SATA I keep getting this error when I try to mount it http://pastebin.com/U6qRW7WF
[19:38] <purvesh> geekphreak, Linux does not support animated images ?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: its still linux dude, will most likely have the same issue
[19:38] <geekphreak> purvesh: they work here man :)
[19:38] <WaLLabiee> I'm not quite sure what to ask, that is why i wanted someone on private to help me clear my questions, not just to spam here
[19:38] <dto> hi. i'm on lucid and my 2nd monitor setup dies when the screen blanks.
[19:38] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: Mandriva's boot splash has been working rather well on here, but I also don't have the propritary Nivida driver installed as far as I know
[19:38] <geekphreak> purvesh: try this for me
[19:38] <purvesh> geekphreak, ok ... then its my bad luck ... hehe .
[19:38] <Shapeshifter> well here we are. everytime such a huge-lag happens, this gets written to /var/log/messages: medja-desktop gnome-session[1151]: devkit-power-gobject-WARNING: Error invoking GetAll() to get properties: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[19:38] <neverblue> Mallen_: if reads, 'already mounted', why are you trying to mount it again ?
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> WaLLabiee: ask in the channel, more eyes and more answers
[19:39] <respire> how does synaptic know i chose to use root instead of sudo to execute privileged instructionds
[19:39] <geekphreak> purvesh:  open firefox, drag the image on it
[19:39] <silverdrake11> Can someone help me delete items from trash? They won't delete.
[19:39] <purvesh> geekphreak, k wt..
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> respire: it doesn't
[19:39] <Pici> purvesh: The application that gnome uses by default to rpeview images may not support animated gifs.  You could try opening them in a web browser or another image preview tool, like gthumb or gwenview.
[19:39] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: they could have improved xsplash, given it a proper theme etc,  but nope,  decided to copy Fedora since that's what people wanted with Plymouth, and now  issues
[19:39] <Mallen_> neverblue: Lol, beacuse it isnt really mounted (I cant see it under Computer just under disk utility)
[19:39] <respire> ActionParsnip, It asks for my root password instead of my user password so it somehow does
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> respire: and you shouldnt launch synaptic with sudo, use gksudo
[19:39] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, dbus?
[19:39] <neverblue> Mallen_: its mounted at the location /
[19:39] <purvesh> geekphreak, it is moving at firefox
[19:39] <Smokey> so I really dont understand......... every 6months or so people essentially reinstall ubuntu to get latest??? Im not familiar with ubuntu thats why I ask
[19:39] <geekphreak> Pici: eog should work too?
[19:40] <geekphreak> purvesh:  ok good
[19:40] <neverblue> Mallen_: cd /;ls -la
[19:40] <kjele> silverdrake11: rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash
[19:40] <respire> ActionParsnip, I'm modifying a bash script and would like to keep it in sync with the "ubuntu way". So however synaptic does this if I can replicate it thats a bonus
[19:40] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: The Youtube link you gave me, what's that?
[19:40] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: yes not gone on
[19:40] <nocturnus> hello please?
[19:40] <Pici> geekphreak: eog is the default tool, it sounds like it doesn't support animated gifs
[19:40] <TheCheeze> smokey- yes and no. most of us only install the core, and keep our /home on a seperate partition so we don't lose our stuff
[19:40] <respire> otherwise I will just use some j random hacker method and it will be lame
[19:40] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: my guess is that dbus or some gnome device abstraction layer doesn't like one of my hardware components and hangs, then fails everytime
[19:40] <Mallen_> neverblue: want the output?
[19:40] <geekphreak> Pici:  they work here
[19:40] <JenniferB>  Hi folks, I just added another disk to my desktop computer.. which already has files on it... but I cannot access it from Ubuntu... :(
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: thats what my lappy does before the logon screen
[19:40] <dscsdccsdc> if I pulled a single drive out of a raid5 NAS and tried to read it in ubuntu, could I?
[19:40] <robertzaccour> i found a bug involving my new netbook, i reported it this morning
[19:40] <neverblue> Mallen_: that will not be necessary
[19:40] <robertzaccour> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/574406
[19:40] <dscsdccsdc> there's no RAID channel
[19:41] <kfries6> LL-UNR flash stick created from LL Desktop is asking for uid/psswd, why, and what is it?
[19:41] <neverblue> Mallen_: what are you trying to accomplish exactly ?
[19:41] <geekphreak> Pici:  prob. not renedered ok, dont know
[19:41] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: sometimes with the  Nivida driver installed Plymouth would work ok, then it only shows for like 3 seconds.  Having just black for three seconds and then boot up screen is ok I guess.
[19:41] <penguin42> dscsdccsdc: There wouldn't be much sensible on one disk from a RAID5
[19:41] <WaLLabiee> Where to find the basic commands regarding running some sort of visual interface as the command prompt is not very easy for me at the moment?
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> respire: if you cron an upgrade  you can run the cron jobas root, which will mean it runs fine
[19:41] <adi1> hi all. on dell inspiron 6400 c2d 2ghz, ati x1300, ubuntu 10.04 the fan is working always not in the max speed but in the normal speed. it was not like this with the precedent ubuntu. anyone any idea? thanks
[19:41] <Mallen_> neverblue: righto what did that do
[19:41] <CogitoErgoSam> Anyone have empathy unable to connect to Gtalk accounts post-10.04?  Even with the talk server set?
[19:41] <respire> ActionParsnip, this is not my question i explained poorly
[19:41] <newcomer123> does anyone know why i have to constantly skip a couple folders during boot up of lucid lynx? (pressing S at boot up to skip some mounting thing i have no understanding of..)
[19:41] <silverdrake11> kjele, it doesn't work. the items are still there. They were some mp3 files I downloaded but I think they are corrupt now. I can't move them out of the trash nor play them nor delete them. Any ideas?
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> adi1: checked bug reports?
[19:41] <Snausages> dscsdccsdc: you won't have complete data on a single member from a raid5...  you could guess at some of the missing data but that's all it would be- guesses
[19:41] <adi1> its a lot of noise for me with the fan alwys on.
[19:41] <Ken8521> robertzaccour, i sincerely doubt that's a bug....
[19:41] <Ken8521> actually, i know its not
[19:41] <geekphreak> CogitoErgoSam:  i had some network error issue
[19:41] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: yep black before boot up, uhmmm  ubuntu tty1  asking for a username and then put that in and password, don't bother and it goes to the log in screen.  Kubuntu theme always showing differnetly on boot up,  xubuntu seemed to work ok, but only saws  that once. and uh yeah this kind of stuff
[19:42] <dscsdccsdc> `³
[19:42] <dscsdccsdc> i³
[19:42] <temon> ActionParsnip: what your nvdia series?
[19:42] <robertzaccour> Ken8521, then what is it?
[19:42] <adi1> where i can check bug reports?
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> temon: 6150 onboard 512mb
[19:42] <respire> screw it ill make a hacker method
[19:42] <Narya> where can I set the default programs for different extensions?
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> !bugs | adi1
[19:42] <Pici> adi1: http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[19:42] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: so the tutorial link I  gave you earlier? Is that what I should do? This?  http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[19:42] <kjele> silverdrake11: check that there are no Trash folder in ~/.local/share
[19:42] <respire> nobody can say i didn't try and do it right
[19:42] <dscsdccsdc> hmm thanks
[19:42] <the_padawan2> kjele: no luck, same problem.
[19:42] <Ken8521> robertzaccour, something that doesn't work.... it happens w/ really new stuff... just because it works w/ Windows, doesn't mean it will/should work w/ Linux
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> !default
[19:43] <aigoo> what should install to watch some videos?
[19:43] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/417824 basically this and others
[19:43] <shleda> hi, after upgrade my ntfs mounted partition is acting like a readonly os
[19:43] <MaT-dg> does the 10.1 beta flashplayer work on 64bit ubuntu?
[19:43] <robertzaccour> Ken8521, why wouldn't it work? it worked fine in windows
[19:43] <geekphreak> aigoo:  sudo apt-get install vlc
[19:43] <sebsebseb> aigoo: AVI's? wmvs ?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: try it, just backup any files you edit before so you can roll back
[19:43] <shleda> hi, after upgrade my ntfs mounted partition is acting like a readonly fs, how do i fix it?
[19:43] <Shapeshifter> env | grep dbus
[19:43] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: yeah, but that link I don't understand it
[19:43] <Shapeshifter> oops sorry
[19:43] <Ken8521> robertzaccour, what it does in windows is irrelevant... windows has drivers for that device.
[19:43] <temon> mat-dg: yes....
[19:43] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: also this is the kind of thing, I don't want to have to mess around with, because of a stupid boot up
[19:43] <kjele> the_padawan2: I guess you have to remove the wifi driver or block it with chroot
[19:43] <silverdrake11> kjele, no theres no trash there
[19:44] <purvesh> Pici, Now its working Fine Thanx.:)
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> MaT-dg: indeed, so does the 64bit .so , flashplugin-nonfree installs the 32bit flash with a 64bit abstraction layer
[19:44] <C-S-B> Right, experiment one failed
[19:44] <C-S-B> eject doesnt work :(
[19:44] <shleda> nothing was changed in /etc/fstab
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: then don't. It doesn't affect the system once its booted
[19:44] <robertzaccour> Ken8521, so its probably a driver issue?
[19:44] <aigoo> geekphreak, It seem that flash player is not installed by default.
[19:44] <the_padawan2> kjele: ok, i think i'll take the reinstall route. is it reasonable to expect that doing an apt-get upgrade before installing the proprietary driver will fix this?
[19:44] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip, what are you like with hotkeys?
[19:44] <geekphreak> aigoo: nope it is not
[19:44] <perlmonkey2> Anyone know why Pidgin was removed as the default IM client?
[19:45] <Mallen_> Could someone help me with a HD mount problem I keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/U6qRW7WF
[19:45] <Ken8521> robertzaccour, most likely...
[19:45] <NetLarIrvine> Having trouble connecting using the infamous WUSB600n, can anyone help me??
[19:45] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: I need propritary Nivdida card driver installed,  if it is, Plymouth will mess up loads,  if it's not Plymouth will boot up ok.  and as I already told you I can't just remove Plymouth with it wanting to take a load of other stuff with it, not just F-Spot and Banshee, but more important operating system programs some of them as well.
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: in fluxbox, great. Otherwise not at all
[19:45] <Ken8521> robertzaccour, open a terminal and type "lspci" w/o quotes, and see how it identifies your audio device
[19:45] <NetLarIrvine> I have already blacklisted the conflicting drivers
[19:45] <kjele> silverdrake11: then do "sudo updatedb" and use "locate filename" to see if it is still on the system. You might have to relog to take effect. Might be corrupted as you said
[19:46] <NetLarIrvine> and only the rt2740sta driver is loading now
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: all i can say is let plymouth stand dude, then you will get 3D accelleration etc. It's only a boot splash after all
[19:46] <temon> ActionParsnip: are you sure about all nvdia series will work full in ubuntu 10.04 ????
[19:46] <NetLarIrvine> But still will not connect
[19:46] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: Why oh why, can't it be so simple to remove Plymouth without a ton of needed stuff going as well.
[19:46] <Narya> where can I set the default programs for different file types?
[19:46] <aigoo> geekphreak, I get this error while trying to install flashplayer:E: Couldn't find package flashplayer
[19:46] <Smokey> so theres no way to setup ubuntu as like a rolling release?
[19:46] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip, well I have an issue where hitting the eject key gives a notification but doesnt eject. Create a new shortcut with the command 'eject' assigned the eject key does eject, with no notification
[19:46] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: lots of people having the same problem, bugs getting put to "low" and then closed because no dev wants to pick it up
[19:46] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: let it stand?  uhmm if it's using proptary Nivida driver it mess's up as I have already said, however you told me that it can some how use another driver instead?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: something about editing Grub 2?
[19:46] <respire> can i somehow check if a user would be permitted to run a command as sudo without actually trying it or parsing the sudoers file manually
[19:46] <salam> pls i need help : i had a doc i need to recover, it has already been saved,
[19:46] <geekphreak> aigoo:  download from adobe site
[19:47] <kjele> the_padawan2: Not really but the chance will lower the risk. :) There could be other thing you did that cause the failure. Butterfly effect you know.
[19:47] <salam> but now the recovery window say only recovery failed !
[19:47] <Ken8521> robertzaccour, the fact you aid you tried other distros. should have told you it wasn't an ubuntu specific bug.. what other distros did you try?
[19:47] <robertzaccour> Ken8521, http://pastebin.com/WdaR9gjR
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> temon: yes they have supported nvidia awesomely for as long as i've known linux (and probably before). There are some niggles but games run well.
[19:47] <DanC> has anybody upgraded to 10.4 using a torrent? any clues about why my machine won't use the local packages? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+question/109413
[19:47] <C-S-B> DanC, upgrade by torrent?
[19:47] <CogitoErgoSam> danc: did you do a checksum on the finished version to make sure it was intact
[19:47] <salam> can someone tell me hw to recover a saved doc on xubuntu server ?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: not sure dude
[19:48] <robertzaccour> Ken8521, pclinuxos gnome and xfce versions and tried gnome de for ubuntu
[19:48] <gavagai> My desktop just froze AGAIN!  Ok this time it happened when I ctrl-clicked on three email attachments in firefox.  it was going to 'view' them in gmail.  anyone heard of this problem?  using firefox?  total lockout, ctrl alt backspace did nothing.
[19:48] <gavagai> is it firefox or gnome?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: like I said, you are worrying about a bootsplash. why is it such a massive deal?
[19:48] <Ken8521> robertzaccour, never even heard of that one... i've got an older intelHDA device, and it works OK, except the internal mic, its never worked under Linux(3yrs old)
[19:48] <DanC> yes, C-S-B i.e. download the .iso via bittorrent and install that way
[19:48] <sebsebseb> Vigo: Can you help me?
[19:48] <geekphreak> not me
[19:48] <robertzaccour> Ken8521, did ya get that pastebin?
[19:48] <nlfidelitas> So... I hate to be one of those new, random guys who's new to Ubuntu and has a problem, but...  I don't suppose you guys would have any idea as to why Ubuntu has decided that one of my SATA hard drives is a PATA drive?
[19:48] <C-S-B> DanC, if you are upgrading an existing install from disc, you need to have the alternative iso
[19:49] <C-S-B> DanC, whats the name of the iso you downloaded?
[19:49] <Ninjad> sup everyone
[19:49] <DanC> CogitoErgoSam, well, I computed an md5sum (5b2dadacfd692b4f2d5c7cf034539262 ubuntu-10.04-alternate-i386.iso) but haven't actually checked it yet... looking for official md5s...
[19:49] <Ken8521> robertzaccour, the desktop environment isn't really going to change whether hardware is recognized or not
[19:49] <salam> pls can someone let me know hw to recover my saved doc on xubuntu
[19:49] <lucas-arg> does anyone here have an iw3045?
[19:49] <respire> can i somehow check if a user would be permitted to run a command as sudo without actually trying it or parsing the sudoers file manuallyman gksu answers my question, thanks
[19:49] <Loshki> DanC: I've seen other people report a similar issue recently. It's nothing to do with the torrent, I think it's a bug in the installer....
[19:49] <Ken8521> yes...  never even heard of that one... i've got an older intelHDA device, and it works OK, except the internal mic, its never worked under Linux(3yrs old)
[19:49] <temon> ActionParsnip: I have core i3, 4 gb ram, msi h55 me 33 mother board, vga on board intel... I have problem wiht ubuntu 10.04... some times it frozen...
[19:49] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: the culprit is devkit-power-daemon, I'm pretty certain
[19:49] <DanC> Loshki, is the bug reported yet?
[19:49] <robertzaccour> Ken8521, any suggestions as for what i could possibly do?
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> respire: check its group mambership. if its a member of the admin group then it can use sudo
[19:49] <mkjackson> has anyone else noticed some of the minor buginess found in Lucid?
[19:49] <Mallen_> Could someone help me with a HD mount problem I keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/U6qRW7WF
[19:49] <maco> Ken8521: file a bug on that. "ubuntu-bug linux"
[19:50] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: So you never actsauly removed Plymouth properly or?
[19:50] <Ken8521> robertzaccour, no.. like i said, my internal mic hasn't worked for 4yrs..
[19:50] <Ken8521> maco, its not a bug though.
[19:50] <maco> Ken8521: sure it is
[19:50] <flansuse> Shapeshifter, you use Arch, so you are 1,000,000X more knowledgeable than me, believe me.
[19:50] <maco> Ken8521: thatd be a kernel bug
[19:50] <Ken8521> maco, a bug, is different than something that doesn't work
[19:50] <maco> Ken8521: no its not
[19:50] <marcus> i've installed ubuntu 10.4 on a partition using an USB stick. Now i can't boot my Windows 7 (64 bits) anymore. Grub 'sees' the Windows 7 partition but it will not boot when selected. Does any one help me with this?
[19:50] <robertzaccour> Ken8521, is it just that some hardware isn't supported? would a plug in headset possibly work?
[19:50] <C-S-B> DanC, ?
[19:50] <The_ManU_212> i use alsa as audio driver, play music on my host system and udner virtualbox my guest system cant play sound on the same time as sound is running on the host, i set allready alsa and blacklisted loaded oss modules (then reboot)
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: in an early alpha release yes, but on the full release it does want to remove a whole tonne of junk
[19:50]  * DanC struggles to find m5s anywhwere near http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[19:50] <Shapeshifter> flansuse: well that might be exaggerated but thank you ;)
[19:50] <salam> hey, is any one can help me to recover my saved doc plz ???
[19:50] <Ken8521> maco, if you say so... nothing is in the kernel log about it though...
[19:50] <amabo> is it possible to get rid of this black space that exists between my monitors so that things don't exist off the screen? http://imgur.com/PgTJ4.png
[19:51] <silverdrake11> xjele?
[19:51] <maco> Ken8521: unless the issue is that the internal mic had its wires cut, its something that can be fixed in the driver
[19:51] <sh10151> I've got a working 10.04 install under Wubi in an XP 64-bit. Is it possible to load the XP OS inside VirtualBox inside the Ubuntu Wubi install?
[19:51] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: well not everything it wants to remove in the final release is junk, some of that is rather important, otherwise I would have let it removed it already
[19:51] <salam> i have an important doc but when i open the recovery window appear
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: if you remove quiet splash from /etc/default/grub   and run: sudo update-grub    then you will use a text boot
[19:51] <maco> Ken8521: a lack of support for hardware is a kernel bug
[19:51] <salam> and says that the recovery failed
[19:51] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: I like verbose/text boots :)
[19:51] <geekphreak> goodnight all
[19:51] <Ken8521> maco, i guess i disagree... i don't see how a lack of support, is a bug.
[19:51] <kjele> marcus: Do you want to keep ubuntu?
[19:51] <temon> ActionParsnip: I have core i3, 4 gb ram, msi h55 me 33 mother board, vga on board intel... I have problem wiht ubuntu 10.04... some times it frozen... and hang...
[19:51] <maco> Ken8521: in kernel land it is
[19:51] <ardantus> wow new ubuntu.
[19:51] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: I don't really care about silly little pretty graphics either for a boot up
[19:51] <DanC> C-S-B, ubuntu-10.04-alternate-i386.is (repeating)
[19:51] <maco> Ken8521: the only way support will be added is if you file a bug, so do so
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> temon: tried some boot options?
[19:51] <mkjackson> has anyone noticed some of the quirks with compiz in Lucid?
[19:52] <marcus> kjele: windows is more important for me: ubuntu i can instal later again
[19:52] <thecameleon_paul> Hi guys
[19:52] <mkjackson> (like wallpaper not working?)
[19:52] <Josie> So I have this strange problem where if I ping another server at <IP_ADDRESS> everything goes well, but if I ping it's fqdn ( server.***.com ), ping hangs up for a moment, and seems very slow but reports the same times. this seems to happen with other connections to this host.
[19:52] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: well I do to some extent, but by only getting stuff from the Ubuntu repo for this, I have never been fully happy
[19:52] <C-S-B> DanC, have you mounted it ?
[19:52] <Ken8521> maco, naa, it doesn't bother me... besides, there's been a bazillion folks who've filed bugs about it.
[19:52] <Loshki> DanC: I don't see a matching bug. Please file one...
[19:52] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: and I much prefer a text boot :)
[19:52] <silverdrake11> Excuse me, I forgot the name of the user I was talking to. Can someone scroll up and tell me?
[19:52] <kjele> marcus: Well then. You still have the windows dvd?
[19:52] <robertzaccour> Ken8521, could using a plug-in headset fix it maybe?
[19:52] <robertzaccour> Ken8521, i meant be a workaround
[19:52] <maco> Ken8521: about internal mics not working on $random-other-hardware or on YOUR hardware?
[19:52] <salam> pls, i need help to recover my doc on xubuntu
[19:52] <C-S-B> DanC, if you are on 8.04 or 9.10 it should prompt for an upgrade
[19:52] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: ah yes a page said about start up manager,  which I have used before.  that was to do with getting a text boot I guess then
[19:52] <DanC> yes, C-S-B; please see https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+question/109413 for the gory details.
[19:52] <maco> robertzaccour: what was your issue?
[19:52] <temon> actonParship: boot? it was running... but some times frozen and hang....
[19:52] <Ken8521> robertzaccour, i use a mic plugged intot he mic jac, and it works fien
[19:52] <owner> hi
[19:53] <DanC> it didn't prompt when I mounted the .iso; I still don't know why not
[19:53] <Ken8521> maco, well, people w/ my chipset...
[19:53] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: well when Plymouth works and it boots up in like 3 seconds, I guess it will be like this for a text boot as well?
[19:53] <robertzaccour>  maco https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/574406
[19:53] <Vigo> sebsebseb: I am still looking, so far all I found was the LiveCD thing.
[19:53] <anom01y> man why can't Ubuntu make up its mind with Nvidia drivers, its like I get them going but then when I restart the computer they stop working, and I have to go into recovery mode and go in low graphics mode to reinstall the drivers again
[19:53] <marcus> kjele: no: is it an version with is installed with a preloaded partition (which i can not reach either with grub2)
[19:53] <Loshki> silverdrake11: Looks like it was kjele...
[19:53] <sebsebseb> Vigo: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[19:53] <temon> actonParship: may be problem with intel HD grapics in core i3 ...
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: sure
[19:53] <robertzaccour> Ken8521, so if the built in one don't work a plugged in one might?
[19:53] <maco> Ken8521: as defined by "oh look theyre all part of the super-vague hda spec" or as defined be "we have identical subsystem vendor and identificatoin numbers"?
[19:53] <salam> can someone give me advice about recovering saved doc  plsss
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> temon: use tab to complete nicks :)
[19:53] <Ken8521> robertzaccour, does for me.
[19:53] <kjele> Loshki: eh what?
[19:53] <Ken8521> maco, what do you think?
[19:53] <silverdrake11> Loshki, thanks
[19:54] <thecameleon_paul> Indeed I need some help... I wanna use Pitivi to edit an wmv movie, but I can't import it... I think it comes from gstreamer but I don't know what to do... install extra gstreamer packages or what?
[19:54] <Loshki> kjele: silverdrake11 was looking for you...
[19:54] <robertzaccour> Ken8521, oh ok thanks. i'll get one when i'm at wal-mart later
[19:54] <silverdrake11> kjele, OK so I logged out.
[19:54] <kjele> Loshki: ok
[19:54] <Mallen_> Could someone help me with a HD mount problem I keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/U6qRW7WF
[19:54] <C-S-B> DanC,  sorry for your pain!
[19:54] <kjele> silverdrake11: Still have the problem?
[19:54] <maco> Ken8521: given that before you said "intelhda" im thinking you, like most people, assumed that all intelhda is the same
[19:54] <robertzaccour> Ken8521, when did yours stop working?
[19:54] <Ken8521> maco, then you are wrong
[19:54] <DanC> thanks, C-S-B  ;-)
[19:54] <Ken8521> robertzaccour, never has... 3-4yrs.
[19:54] <woodyjlw> how do I move the minimize and exit from left to right side of window?
[19:54] <Noo> hey I have 2 running machines on xen and I want to delete one of them and make a clone of the other one on it. Does anybody know how to make something like that work? I'm a newbie to xen
[19:54] <kjele> marcus: Do you have the problem if you stick the usb with ubuntu in?
[19:54] <Ken8521> robertzaccour, everythign else is fine
[19:55] <silverdrake11> kjele, and the locate doesnt work, but I still have the problem. Now if I copy the file in the trash to my Desktop, then I can locate it, but not while its in the trash.
[19:55] <maco> Ken8521: pleasant surprise then
[19:55] <anom01y> any how do I restart the X server, the boot screen doesnt give me an option, and ctrl alt backspace doesnt work.....
[19:55] <respire> ActionParsnip, http://www.pastie.org/943942
[19:55] <respire> not always true
[19:55] <MaT-dg> temon, ActionParsnip: are you sure? talking about 10.1 beta here on a 64bit system not 10.0
[19:55]  * respire does not like sudo and does not use it so has no sudo access
[19:55] <kjele> silverdrake11: think you can show me a screen shot of it?
[19:55] <robertzaccour> Ken8521, so between dapper and feisty?
[19:55] <DanC> Loshki, done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/574686 ; does that look right?
[19:55] <maco> robertzaccour: please run "apport-collect -p alsa-base 574406" to attach alsa debugging info to that bug report
[19:55] <thecameleon_paul> well... would so mind to help me?
[19:55] <kjele> silverdrake11: The thing is that the files are deleted you do not have them.
[19:55] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: It's kind of odd really since I am not fully happy with Ubuntu since 9.04 that a part of me wants Mandriva on the other computer as well,  but then it's  like no.  Or I guess not quite since how it will be set up and the users.
[19:55] <silverdrake11> kjele, sure hold on a sec
[19:55] <Ken8521> robertzaccour, no, from (i believe) edgy to lucid.. id on't think i had dapper on this laptop
[19:56] <RedNifre> Hi
[19:56] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: uh that was meant to be,  that a part of me still wants to keep Ubuntu on there
[19:56] <thecameleon_paul> hi
[19:56] <RedNifre> Where to set the language of spell checking?
[19:56] <marcus> kjele: running from USB I can access the drives and all is oke... it's just that the mbr is damaged... and I can not repear it because grub2 will not let me access the preloaded recovery/installation partition
[19:56] <Loshki> DanC: yes, looks good. Thanks...
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> MaT-dg: sure, you can install flashplugin-nonfree   then replace the .so file with the 10.1 one, if you are using 64bit you will get better flash using the 64bit one
[19:56] <respire> ok thats it
[19:56] <maco> MaT-dg: theres no such thing as 10.1
[19:56] <thecameleon_paul> syst>admin>languages
[19:56] <Vigo> sebsebseb: And here from Ubuntu Geek:>
[19:56] <trainer> Hi I can't get Lucid to install from the CD. I boot to it, choose English, and then when I press enter to install ubuntu, the disc spins for a few seconds and nothing happens
[19:56] <sebsebseb> Vigo: what's that?
[19:57] <maco> MaT-dg: and theres currently no beta version of ubuntu
[19:57] <Vigo> sebsebseb: whoops: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/LucidBootExperience
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> trainer: did you md5 test the iso you burned?
[19:57] <sh10151> Does anyone here use a wubi install of Ubuntu?
[19:57] <amabo> is it possible to get rid of this black space that exists between my monitors so that things don't exist off the screen? http://imgur.com/PgTJ4.png
[19:57] <trainer> ActionParsnip no how do I do that?
[19:57] <kjele> marcus: When you installed grub you put its file on a usb that is why...
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: try it, if you like it then stick with mandriva
[19:57] <RedNifre> thecameleon_paul: That's just the interface language. I'm talking about the spell checker (The red underlines)
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | trainer
[19:57] <respire> ActionParsnip, /etc/alternatives/libgksu-gconf-defaults <--- this file looks like what it does :)
[19:57] <Vigo> sebsebseb: And here is the page it originates from: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-10-4-lucid-boot-experience-changing-from-using-usplash-to-plymouth.html
[19:57] <MaT-dg> maco: flashplayer 10.1 beta ;)
[19:57] <sebsebseb> sh10151: soem people yeah, but much better to use real partitions espesailly in the long run. well for testing when Wubi works it's ok for short term Ubuntu useage
[19:57] <kjele> marcus: So plug in the usb and boot win7
[19:57] <maco> MaT-dg: ahhh ok :)
[19:58] <FANUM> anyone in here familiar with the intel 855 bugs regarging kms in lucid
[19:58] <thecameleon_paul> Sorry guys, can you help me to figure out how to make pitivi work with a wmv?
[19:58] <maco> robertzaccour: also, specify in the report whether you mean mic jack or a screen mic (if you have both)
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> MaT-dg: there is even a repo with 6bit flash on which made me laugh
[19:58] <respire> can someone on a normal ubuntu with sudo enabled please show me the contents of their file  /etc/alternatives/libgksu-gconf-default
[19:58] <lucas-arg> i have iw3945 and my connection is really slow, is anyone else having the same problem?
[19:58] <silverdrake11> kjele, ok it's all these files http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049596/Screenshot-Trash%20-%20File%20Browser.png
[19:58] <RedNifre> It would be best if Gnome had a little tray button to switch the spell check (right next to the clock or something)
[19:58] <robertzaccour> maco, i did that thanks
[19:58] <FANUM> thecameleon_paul can you play the wmv file in movie player?
[19:58] <CogitoErgoSam> FANUM:  Yes, I can help you fix it
[19:58] <gh0zt> !controls
[19:58] <silverdrake11> kjele, this is what happens when I try to delete them individually http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049596/screenshot2.png
[19:58] <sh10151> sebsebseb: just a little squeamish about partitioning computer at work, I guess
[19:59] <thecameleon_paul> yes I can play the movie in totem
[19:59] <MaT-dg> ActionParsnip: well, I downloaded the 10.1 .so and placed in in ~./mozilla/plugins like I did for the 64bit .so, but it's not recognized in firefoc
[19:59] <sebsebseb> sh10151: well back up data
[19:59] <sh10151> sebsebseb: not that they couldn't just reimage it
[19:59] <FANUM> CogitoErgoSam excellent, i have it booting to low res now
[19:59] <CogitoErgoSam> FANUM:  to get my laptop working with lucid and its built-in i855 gfx, here's what I did
[19:59] <sebsebseb> sh10151: then just re size,  Windows,  Vista though and maybe Windows 7 not sure about 7.  is one you should let re size itself
[19:59] <Vigo> RedNinfire: Add the Dictionary to a panel?
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> MaT-dg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/OMG_UBUNTU_64bit_Flash_PPA_for_ubuntu
[19:59] <marcus> kjele: sorry for the misunderstanding... I installed it FROM usb TO disk. First I had version 9.10 installed by wubi. The update crashed completly, So I put the ISO file on a usb to compleet te installation. I worked but from that point my windows will not boot any more from grub
[19:59] <sh10151> this is XP 64bit
[19:59] <sebsebseb> !dualboot | sh10151
[19:59] <CogitoErgoSam> Fanum:  edit the /etc/default/grub file
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> MaT-dg: if your install is 64bit then that wont work, the 10.1 is only 32bit right now
[20:00] <sebsebseb> sh10151: desktop or server?
[20:00] <sh10151> desktop
[20:00] <sebsebseb> sh10151: well for both when it comes to businesses, there are better distros
[20:00] <kjele> marcus: ok. Have you tried to update grub from the desktop installation of yours?
[20:00] <FANUM> thecameleon_paul so is piviti not recognizing the file?
[20:00] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[20:00] <kjele> marcus: Not the usb
[20:00] <CogitoErgoSam> FANUM:  Change the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.modeset=1"
[20:00] <robertzaccour> maco, ok i also reported that its the built in mic not plug in one but i'll get one tonight and try it out and see
[20:00] <CogitoErgoSam> FANUM:  Then run update-grub
[20:00] <maco> robertzaccour: ok
[20:00] <nlfidelitas> anyone have any ideas on why one of my SATA II hard drives is coming up as a PATA drive in Ubuntu?
[20:00] <thecameleon_paul> FANUM : URI :Docu_Arte.wmv
[20:00] <sebsebseb> sh10151: I think for example a lot of businesss'es will go for Debian Stable,  since it's stable,  for example.  Also Ubuntu is based on Debian.
[20:01] <thecameleon_paul> Problème :Une erreur interne s'est produite lors de l'analyse de ce fichier : Erreur interne de flux de données.
[20:01] <notbenh> hello all I was wondering if there is some way that I can see what is capturing a key combo? I'm attempting to use ctrl-y in vim but it's not getting captured by vim. I'm guessing that some where it's getting traped elsewhere.
[20:01] <thecameleon_paul> Informations supplémentaires :gstasfdemux.c(1646): gst_asf_demux_loop (): /GstPipeline:Discoverer-file:///home/paul/Documents/Ecole/Lyc%C3%A9e/1%C2%B0/ECJS/Vid%C3%A9os/Docu_Arte.wmv/GstDecodeBin2:dbin/GstASFDemux:asfdemux0:
[20:01] <FloodBot4> thecameleon_paul: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:01] <thecameleon_paul> streaming stopped, reason unexpected
[20:01] <kjele> silverdrake11: Try make a dummy file and delete that one see if you can find it in trash
[20:01] <marcus> kjele: update the grub... yes by selecting recovering mode at startup and then update grub
[20:01] <trainer> ActionParsnip, the md5 does match
[20:01] <respire> my linux got so complicated since slackware 94 :(
[20:01] <thecameleon_paul> okay
[20:01] <sh10151> sebsebseb: well, if my employer would have official desktop support for linux, then I wouldn't be picky
[20:01] <respire> i have to learn 10 new commands just to do anything!
[20:01] <sh10151> sebsebseb: but ease of installation + wubi is why I've got ubuntu
[20:01] <sebsebseb> sh10151: ah right yeah Canonical does provide actsaul offical Ubuntu support
[20:02] <silverdrake11> kjele, yea that works fine, and I can delete it.
[20:02]  * respire now realises this file is a gconf option and now has to learn how to read these
[20:02] <sebsebseb> sh10151: Wubi I would highly recommend against that in a business environment
[20:02] <BluesKaj> !fr | thecameleon_paul
[20:02] <kjele> marcus: And then one important question. How did you shutdown your windows 7 before you install ubuntu?
[20:02] <sh10151> but now I am wondering if it's crazy to use VirtualBox to boot the original XP 64-bit OS
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> trainer: good, try to check the iso BEFORE burning. Otherwise you have no way of knowing if the data you are using is complete or consistant
[20:02] <sebsebseb> sh10151: Wubi can mess up on people, and oh yes it will quite a lot of the time.  Also  then you can't just say stick in the Live CD and access the partition and get hold of the data.
[20:02] <Mallen_> Could someone help me with a HD mount problem I keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/U6qRW7WF
[20:02] <CogitoErgoSam> FANUM:  If you need a hand changing the grub settings for the i855, send me a private message and I can help you with the details
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> trainer: did you burn the CD as slowly as possible
[20:02] <sh10151> sebsebseb: all of the actual data is stored on network shares
[20:02] <kjele> silverdrake11: Can you delete it fram trash too?
[20:03] <thecameleon_paul> okay I'll leave you and go to french !
[20:03] <sh10151> sebsebseb: i'd only be out my software installation if it crashed
[20:03] <sebsebseb> sh10151: maybe then, but a partitioned install will probably work quite a bit faster for example
[20:03] <progre55_> hi people! any flashget-like native programs under ubuntu?
[20:03] <FANUM> CogitoErgoSam excellent, i got that changed, will reboot and test. Does that disable KMS?
[20:03] <trainer> ActionParsnip no but it took a while
[20:03] <marcus> kjele: yes i did; windows was not running when i finished the ubuntu installation
[20:03] <silverdrake11> kjele, yea when I empty trash, it just gets rid of the dummy file but not all the other files
[20:03] <sebsebseb> sh10151: also I am not sure if Canonical support Wubi installs, I have a feeling though that they may not do so
[20:03] <dpac> Mallen_, Are you trying to mount root filesystem?
[20:03] <FANUM> CogitoErgoSam excellent, based on the fact that is a 1, im guessing it unblacklists the driver correct?
[20:03] <DanC> ugh... my new bug report is one of 618 on ubiquity, and there are 1200 open bugs.
[20:03] <silverdrake11> kjele, this is such a weird problem....
[20:04] <Vigo> !flash | progre55_
[20:04] <dpac> Mallen_, it seems so from the error
[20:04] <Narya> where can I set the default programs for different file types?
[20:04] <CogitoErgoSam> FANUM: yup
[20:04] <kjele> marcus: But how did you shutdown your windows?
[20:04] <FANUM> sweet
[20:04] <FANUM> brb
[20:04] <Mallen_> dpac: yea the error says its mounted to /
[20:04] <sebsebseb> sh10151: also if your after paid support, I think they can even be paid to set things up properly.
[20:04] <Mallen_> dpac: but I can no access the HD - its for storage and would think it would mount to /media
[20:04] <haakond> In Kubuntu 10.04: I want to add a (Open)VPN connection, but both in Network Settings and KNetworkManager the "Add" button is greyed out. What do I have to do? Previously I've used KVpnc, but the best would be if KNetworkManager could handle it. Thanks.
[20:04] <progre55_> Vigo: not flash, but flashget (was it?).. to download stuff in chunks and faster )
[20:04] <SqRt7744> anyone in/near nanaimo bc, canada? I see there's a GabrielBauman listed on the CanadianTeam members...
[20:04] <Loshki> DanC: well, it *is* new. It will stabilize over time...
[20:05] <josvuk> Hello, I'm looking for the keys to press to achieve a backslash character on the terminal. (Ubuntu 10.0 powerbook g4 keyboard) :-)
[20:05] <sebsebseb> sh10151: Wubi is really for the homeuser, not a business
[20:05] <dpac> Mallen_, is it an external hard drive?
[20:05] <Mallen_> dpac: Nope internal SATA
[20:05] <mkquist> help with boot stopping at "ata4: DUMMY"? new installation of course
[20:05] <Vigo> progre55_: whoops, like Jigido?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> josvuk: copy / paste one from the terminal in the mean time ;)
[20:05] <DanC> Loshki, sure, but this suggests my bug won't get attention right away
[20:05] <fiver22> Hi. Losing items from the tray. They continue to run but have disappeared from the tray -happens with Transmission and Quassel. 10.04 clean install.
[20:05] <kjele> silverdrake11: Well the only way now is to restore everything. rm -rf ~/.gnome2* ~/.gconf* ~/.config ~/.local
[20:05] <progre55> Vigo: hmm.. let me try that one =)
[20:05] <CogitoErgoSam> josuvk:  You mean to have it interpreted as text instead of a backslash?
[20:06] <sh10151> sebsebseb: this is actually me alone trying to fly under the radar with a clandestine Linux install until the organization updates its workstation OS policies
[20:06] <kjele> silverdrake11: You will lose all configuration setting
[20:06] <sh10151> sebsebseb: not a long-term decision :)
[20:06] <atomicsunset> whats a good avi to mp4 converter? i tried devede but i just converted and avi to an avi :P
[20:06] <nocturnus> is it possible to run the ubuntu installer from another ubuntu-based live distro (such as backtrack) ?
[20:06] <ChrisC_> Hi, does anyone know about the mic issue with skype an pulse audio? Is there a way over it in 10.04
[20:06] <sebsebseb> sh10151: oh I see
[20:06] <ChrisC_> ?
[20:06] <CogitoErgoSam> josuvk:  You'd use \\ which is the escape character and would evaluate as a text \
[20:06] <sebsebseb> sh10151: well you would still need admin rights in the Windows install, to install Wubi
[20:06] <Loshki> atomicsunset: try handbrake...
[20:06] <dpac> Mallen_, try umount /dev/sdc1
[20:06] <kjele> marcus: If you did an unclean shutdown then you won't be able to boot it.
[20:06] <sebsebseb> sh10151: also there is a chance that it will mess up either when you install, or when you try and remove, then Windows won't just boot up
[20:06] <sh10151> sebsebseb: i already have it installed, works great
[20:07] <silverdrake11> kjele, thats terrible, lose all my config settings just to delete a few corrupted files?
[20:07] <marcus> kjele: normal shut down. Seqence: window> wubi> reinstall 9.10 after crash > reboot > booting ubuntu for installation > reboot > starting ubuntu again > updating 9.10 to 10.4 > major crash when done: grub does nothing anymore. Next: USB startup: reinstall 10.4. > Ubuntu works fine > windows partition is recognited but is not booteble any more
[20:07] <josvuk> CogitoErgoSam: Yes I use kermit which have the escape character ctrl-\ to come back :-)
[20:07] <sh10151> sebsebseb: just think the question of using VirtualBox to get back into it might be foolish
[20:07] <amabo> is there a command for detecting displays?
[20:07] <NetLarIrvine> I need to get a compatible usb wireless adapter for 10.04, any suggestions??
[20:07] <Mallen_> dpac: In term or disk utility?
[20:07] <atomicsunset> Loshki, isnt that for windows only?
[20:07] <Vigo> progre55_: It only works with jigido files, bittorent and other packages may help, also there are many many system tweaks, but one is actually limited . most times , by ISP throttling.
[20:07] <sh10151> sebsebseb: seems like even if it nominally worked, the guest XP OS could mess up the wubi file
[20:07] <dpac> Mallen_, terminal
[20:07] <sebsebseb> sh10151: having Ubuntu inside WIndows like that is ok for trying, but in the long run, better to have Windows in a virtual machine, inside a better OS, or not at all :D
[20:07] <kjele> silverdrake11: The files are deleted. It is just that you have some corruption with trash. You can try to reboot and then decide to reset everything.
[20:08] <dpac> Mallen_, again, are you sure this is not root filesystem?
[20:08] <CogitoErgoSam> dual booting usually works fine too
[20:08] <totic> how do you use the disown command? it uses job specs instead of PID
[20:08] <progre55> Vigo: I see.. thanks. Actually I remember once installing flashget using wine. let me try it again )
[20:08] <sebsebseb> sh10151: uh Virtualbox inside Wubi?
[20:08] <Mallen_> dpac: What do you mean by root filesystem? what I have ubuntu installed on?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: or install to usb, better than both
[20:08] <ChrisC_> Does anyone know if there is a fix for mic and pulseaudio. With the mic not working in Skype?
[20:08] <dpac> Mallen_, yes
[20:09] <sh10151> sebsebseb: yeah, wubi install of linux runs VirtualBox which loads original OS from nt partition
[20:09] <anom01y> Hi, since I've dowgraded to xubuntu 10.04 my nvidia geforce 6200 (that was working in 9.10) now is unable to work with any of the drivers in hardware drivers gui.
[20:09] <Mallen_> dpac: postive my ubuntu is on an old IDE HD
[20:09] <Vigo> progre55: That was to be my next suggestion, sort of.
[20:09] <futuram> http://gtkpod.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=gtkpod/libgpod;a=blob_plain;f=README.SysInfo;hb=HEAD doesnt make any sense. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME decypher these instructions???
[20:09]  * DanC thinks there should be an #ubuntu-sound channel... wonders if there is one...
[20:09] <Mallen_> dpac: This drive has been formated twice today
[20:09] <anom01y> I've tried several things, but I am stuck going through fail-safe and then low graphics mode
[20:09] <sh10151> sebsebseb: seems like a terrible idea but one that might work
[20:09] <progre55> ChrisC_: vaio?
[20:09] <sebsebseb> sh10151: ah right yeah, some how you  can use a pshyical WIndows install inside Virtualbox
[20:09] <anom01y> also, the xubuntu splash is in 16 colors ?????
[20:09] <silverdrake11> kjele, also the weird thing is these files are from when I had Karmic installed. I recently did a clean install, wiped the hard drive. Installed Lucid and yet SOMEHOW the corrupted files are still in my trash.....
[20:09] <Loshki> atomicsunset: handbrake used to be windows only. There are versions for ubuntu nowadays. Check your repos...
[20:09] <Brozilla> hi all..
[20:09] <sebsebseb> sh10151: altough I don't think you can through Wubi, but maybe you can
[20:09] <progre55> Vigo: thanks man =) I'll let you know if it works..
[20:09] <ChrisC_> No Samsung R20.
[20:09] <CogitoErgoSam> FANUM:  Good news?
[20:10] <sebsebseb> Vigo: oh yeah thanks for links, i'll check out in a bit
[20:10] <dpac> Mallen_, Happening first time? Did you try to reboot?
[20:10] <progre55> ChrisC_: and your card?
[20:10] <Mallen_> dpac: Yep, it works fine on windows
[20:10] <silverdrake11> kjele, maybe my hard drive is corrupted or something
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> silverdrake11: do you have a seperate home partition?
[20:10] <amabo> is there a command for detecting displays?
[20:10]  * DanC tries to list channels; fails due to rate limiting
[20:10] <FANUM> CogitoErgoSam sort of. boots now and attempts full res, but is blurre dand distorted
[20:10] <kjele> silverdrake11: Did you format it?
[20:10] <atomicsunset> Loshki,  no luck
[20:10] <ChrisC_> What's the command to get my hardware? Can't remember.
[20:10] <Vigo> prgre55: Please let us all know if it works and post on the Forums any fixes or workarounds that you write or discover.
[20:10] <delemi> Quick question: What is the easiest way to mount a location on a seperate partition to my "places". The partition is mounted in fstab but I want it to show up in places.
[20:10] <Brozilla> i have ubuntu 10.04 32bit and it hangs at desktop for like 30 sec then icons load.. any ideas how to fix??
[20:10] <silverdrake11> ActionParsnip, no thats the weird thing.
[20:10] <nocturnus> whats the name of the ubuntu installer? ubuntiquity? is that the right spelling?
[20:11] <futuram> http://gtkpod.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=gtkpod/libgpod;a=blob_plain;f=README.SysInfo;hb=HEAD doesnt make any sense. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME decypher these instructions???
[20:11] <kjele> marcus: My best option is to install grub on the mbr again and luckily you will get it to work
[20:11] <maco> nocturnus: ubiquity
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> nocturnus: ubiquity
[20:11] <The_ManU_212> i use alsa as audio driver, play music on my host system and udner virtualbox my guest system cant play sound on the same time as sound is running on the host, i set allready alsa and blacklisted loaded oss modules (then reboot)
[20:11] <CogitoErgoSam> FANUM:  What's blurred?  The splash screen , grub, your x session?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> !info ubiquity
[20:11] <gizmobay> I have a bunch of packages that say can be autoremoved after my upgrade to 10.04. Is it safe to do this?
[20:11] <progre55> ChrisC_: "lcpci | grep Audio"
[20:11] <Loshki> atomicsunset: what os version are you running?
[20:11] <kjele> marcus: "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"
[20:11] <maco> nocturnus: because its goal is to make ubuntu become ubiquitous ;-)
[20:11] <nocturnus> maco: i didn't ask why
[20:11] <dpac> Mallen_, try removing the /dev/sdc1 line from /etc/mtab. Don't forget to take backup before you do that
[20:11] <silverdrake11> kjele, no I just deleted the partition in gparted, then I used the use "continuous free space" option
[20:11] <nocturnus> maco: just if the spelling is correct
[20:11] <FANUM> CogitoErgoSam i also get a GLIB-warning error, that stays at that black screen, till i switch to a VT, then when i hop back to x, it is boxy and distorted. P.ymouth shows up normal now
[20:11] <marcus> kjele: is there an possebility to reinstall grub without reinstalling te complete verion of ubuntu?
[20:12] <sebsebseb> FANUM: ah yes Plymouth issues
[20:12] <anom01y> hello ?   HOW DO i GET DRIVERs for NVIDIA to work ??     hardware drivers sais it works, but I can't load X when I reboot. I have to go to "failsafe" and "low graphics" mode every single time................
[20:12] <Brozilla> i have ubuntu 10.04 32bit and it hangs at desktop for like 30 sec then icons load.. any ideas how to fix?? plz?
[20:12] <trainer> Hi I can't get Lucid to install from the CD. I boot to it, choose English, and then when I press enter to install ubuntu, the disc spins for a few seconds and nothing happens
[20:12] <sebsebseb> FANUM: ActionParsnip  and me and a load of other peopel have been effected by Plymouth issues in Ubuntu as well
[20:12] <ChrisC_> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[20:12] <marcus> kjele: a... i saw it to late... thankxxx... i will try
[20:12] <delemi> Quick question: What is the easiest way to mount a location on a seperate partition to my "places". The partition is mounted in fstab but I want it to show up in places.
[20:12] <sebsebseb> FANUM: as for a solution something about how can edit Grub so it only boots in text mode, plus there's this http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[20:12] <CogitoErgoSam> FANUM:  I'm afraid I'm not that experienced with the plymouth issues so I don't wanna steer you wrong but there's a lot of people with similar probs
[20:13] <CogitoErgoSam> so others here like ^^ can prolly help better
[20:13] <kjele> marcus: The block device must be the one you are booting to
[20:13] <silverdrake11> kjele, another weird thing is that these files do not show up in the terminal, only in nautilus
[20:13] <gizmobay> man my boot splash screen is nasty looking.
[20:13] <FANUM> sebsebseb plymount appears to be funcitioning, or atleast displaying properly
[20:13] <Brozilla> i have ubuntu 10.04 32bit and it hangs at desktop for like 30 sec then icons load.. any ideas how to fix?? is it normal??
[20:13] <sebsebseb> FANUM: it's if you have a propritary graphics card driver installed, that your likely to get issues with it
[20:13] <FANUM> sebsebseb it isnt untill x actually starts that it gets distorted
[20:13] <nocturnus> maco: can't find any links about it on google
[20:13] <FANUM> its intel
[20:13] <FANUM> so no prop drivers
[20:13] <Mallen_> dpac: how to i modify gedit?
[20:13] <maco> nocturnus: so?
[20:13] <sebsebseb> FANUM: ok  so you got some other issue then it seems, well can't help
[20:13] <kjele> silverdrake11: Yea. That is why you should at least reboot the system.
[20:13] <dpac> yes, sudo gedit /etc/mtab
[20:14] <FANUM> sebsebseb thats cool, thanks anyways
[20:14] <marcus> kjele: iḿ sorry: what is a block device?
[20:14] <maco> nocturnus: possibly mozilla naming their code ubiquity too is screwing up the google juice
[20:14] <CogitoErgoSam> Brozilla:  was the slow load time the first boot up after installing 10.04?
[20:14] <nocturnus> maco: so, is it called 'ubuntuiquity' or 'ubiquity' if i were to apt-get it?
[20:14] <maco> nocturnus: but i rather doubt much exists about ubiquity outside of the source code and maybe the ubuntu wiki page
[20:14] <Mallen_> dpac: found it. This line? /dev/sdc1 / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[20:14] <maco> nocturnus: ubiquity
[20:14] <delemi> brozilla: I had that happen on my laptop after upgrade, did fresh install and solved the issue
[20:14] <silverdrake11> kjele ok let me reboot
[20:14] <Vigo> progre55: Packages exist:> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=554603
[20:14] <nocturnus> maco: thanks
[20:14] <kjele> marcus: /dev/sdx where x can be any letter begining with a
[20:14] <dpac> yes, just remove the line and save it. Repeating, do take a backup
[20:15] <maco> nocturnus: as ActionParsnip just said...
[20:15] <sebsebseb> FANUM: altough maybe that bug report on Launchpad I was on earlier, was for your issue, or something similar, don't know though
[20:15] <maco> !info ubiquity | nocturnus
[20:15] <Mallen_> you mean save whats in the file?
[20:15] <mortland_> hey all
[20:15] <nocturnus> maco: i wasn't paying attneiton, text is scrolling too fast
[20:15] <delemi> Quick question: What is the easiest way to mount a location on a seperate partition to my "places". The partition is mounted in fstab but I want it to show up in places.
[20:15] <progre55> Vigo: oh, awesome! thanks a lot man
[20:15] <marcus> kjele: may thats the problem: the first boot should be /dev/sda2 (=windows 7) but is now /dev/sda11 (the latest installation of ubuntu)
[20:15] <Vigo> progre55: You are most welcome.
[20:15] <dpac> Mallen_, yes, delete the line and save the file. Ctrl+S
[20:15] <anom01y> WELL UBUNTU:   YOU'RE UPGRADE IS A FAILURE,  I AM REINSTALLING 9.10 AFTER 2 DAYS OF SCREWING AROUND TRYING TO GET NVIDIA DRIVERS TO WORK FOR A VERY COMMON NVIDIA CARD (GEFORCE 6200)
[20:15] <Vigo> sebsebseb: You are most welcome.
[20:15] <sebsebseb> anom01y: oh?
[20:16] <Mallen_> dpac: rgr deleted check now
[20:16] <Mallen_> ing*
[20:16] <atomicsunset> Loshki, 10.04
[20:16] <anom01y> yeah sebsebseb and I am going to refuse any further upgrades
[20:16] <kjele> marcus: You only have one harddrive ?
[20:16] <anom01y> once I get my computer going
[20:16] <sebsebseb> anom01y: well I upgraded and
[20:16] <marcus> kjele: yes
[20:16] <Loshki> atomicsunset: what does 'apt-cache search handbrake' say?
[20:16] <sebsebseb> anom01y: I got my propritary Nivida driveri nstalled on the other computer, and then bang, Plymouth boot up issues
[20:16] <anom01y> upgrades = progress hamper
[20:16] <knasto_> kjele, I rebooted and the corrupted files are still there. Do you think I could have some kind of Ubuntu virus?
[20:16] <hd1> is there a text mode installer for eeebuntu?
[20:16] <AbuMaia> wow, one botched upgrade and they give up completely
[20:16] <anom01y> yeah screw it
[20:16] <sebsebseb> anom01y: quite a lot of other people have been having the same or similar problems
[20:16] <anom01y> use old Linux
[20:17] <harisson> olá
[20:17] <sebsebseb> anom01y: uhmm
[20:17] <josvuk> any experienced powerbook g4 keyboard user hanging around?
[20:17] <harisson> pessoal
[20:17] <harisson> boa tarde
[20:17] <anom01y> yeah well they better fix it
[20:17] <Votan> Any Ideas why my netbook detecs my default wlan connection as wep and is unable to seleect wpa/wpa2 after a reboot ? it jsut seems to happen random, another reboot fixes the problem
[20:17] <Mallen_> dpac: same error just refering to drive as SDA1
[20:17] <sebsebseb> anom01y: when it's still supported by security updates that's ok yeah,  with 9.10 you got untill October
[20:17] <harisson> preciso de ajuda
[20:17] <anom01y> or I'm going elsewhere
[20:17] <AbuMaia> then there are those of us who upgraded with no major problems at all
[20:17] <Loshki> !es | harisson
[20:17] <kjele> knasto_: No. But rename those folders I said and see if it still there
[20:17] <anom01y> wooo october
[20:17] <sebsebseb> anom01y: October 30th or something,  and  10.10 will come out on the 29th  I guess ( not looked at the scheduled yet )
[20:17] <anom01y> how about 10 years down the roda ?
[20:17] <dpac> weird
[20:17] <anom01y> road
[20:17] <tripelb> kjele, thank you so much for telling me how to fix my screen resolution in 9.10 Kudos!
[20:17] <harisson> sorry
[20:17] <dpac> Mallen_, weird
[20:17] <CogitoErgoSam> After troubleshooting my probs after upgrading I don't feel like quitting, I feel like I have an even better understanding of the OS
[20:17] <dpac> Mallen_, What filesystem is it?
[20:17] <knasto_> kjele, it wont let me rename. It's greyed out.
[20:18] <Mallen_> dpac: NTFS
[20:18] <anom01y> is there a ubuntu out there that will last 10 years ?
[20:18] <knasto_> kjele, the only thing I can do is copy.
[20:18] <Vigo> CogitoErgoSam: That's the spirit!
[20:18] <sebsebseb> anom01y: also of course there are other distros you could use instead of Ubuntu, if you want
[20:18] <CogitoErgoSam> ^^
[20:18] <kjele> marcus: After you install grub do a grub update with "sudo update-grub2
[20:18] <sebsebseb> anom01y: nope it's not like Windows, they don't support the distro for 10 years
[20:18] <anom01y> sebsebseb, yeah seriously considering that
[20:18] <anom01y> something more reliable
[20:18] <kjele> marcus: The 2 is "
[20:18] <sebsebseb> !lts | anom01y
[20:18] <CogitoErgoSam> So many flavors of linux for your needs
[20:18] <kjele> tripelb: Good it worked
[20:18] <dpac> Mallen_, did you provide -t switch while mounting?
[20:18] <Loshki> anom01y: 10 years is a lifetime in computer years...
[20:18] <CogitoErgoSam> server, netbook, desktop, cutting edge or stability, theres one out there that will fit ya perfect
[20:18] <futuram> Is there a reaosn my MNT directory is empty?
[20:18] <dpac> Mallen_, mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1
[20:19] <Mallen_> dpac: dont think so, but i do not no what a -ts witch
[20:19] <knasto_> kjele, I can copy it to the desktop and renamed it.  Just to make backup your config files
[20:20] <zaz_> Hi there, Im not able to install in my alienware m11x the new 10.04 it hangs in the purple window before the menu for select lang
[20:20] <Kuifje111> quick question. how do I connect to a samba share via the commandline?
[20:20] <brontosaurusrexw> CogitoErgoSam: yes, or write your own OS
[20:20] <Loshki> anom01y: because of Moore's law. It's not even clear your hardware will last that long...
[20:20] <acicula> anom01y, there is no os that will last for 10 years in the same state
[20:20] <anom01y> Linux going the way of MS ?
[20:20] <CogitoErgoSam> ActionParsnip:  Wasn't referrin to just Ubuntu; was replyin to comments about tryin other distros
[20:20] <delemi> Quick question: What is the easiest way to mount a location on a seperate partition to my "places". The partition is mounted in fstab but I want it to show up in places.
[20:20] <marcus> kjele: update-grub2 gives: command not found....
[20:20] <AbuMaia> so anom01y, what are you looking for?  someone to help you upgrade, or just people to listen to you bitch about your botched upgrade attempt?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> zaz_: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> CogitoErgoSam: gotcha
[20:20] <rrr> is upgrade from 9.10 ok ?
[20:20] <Name141> how would I change my SSH port? in /etc/ssh/ssh_config ?
[20:20] <zaz_> zaz_: not
[20:20] <sebsebseb> rrr: depends
[20:20] <zaz_> ActionParsnip: not
[20:20] <Mallen_> dpac: wont allow me to create one
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> rrr: yes, 9.10 or 8.04 can jump directly to 10.04
[20:20] <maco> anom01y: just switch to RHEL and be done with it
[20:20] <anom01y> AbuMaia, well the sqeeky wheel gets the greese
[20:20] <kjele> marcus: As I said 2 was " so remove the 2
[20:20] <CogitoErgoSam> Name141:  You mean to host ssh?
[20:21] <dpac> Mallen_, use  sudo please
[20:21] <knasto_> kjele, I can't use the terminal because the terminal doesnt recognize them. I get a "no such file or directory"
[20:21] <zaz_> ActionParsnip: but in a virtualbox it display at less to the lang menu
[20:21] <mkquist> anyone have any ideas about boot stopping at "ata4: DUMMY"? new installation of course...
[20:21] <sebsebseb> rrr: for example maybe you use the propritary Nivida or ATI driver and then upgrade to 10.04, and find that the new Plymouth boot up won't work as a result
[20:21] <Guest10265> I installed community-themes package but I don't know where it is, can anyone help?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> zaz_: then how do you know the iso was complete or consistant. The data you used may be completely garbage
[20:21] <marcus> kjele sorry... novice here...
[20:21] <Name141> CogitoErgoSam: the port in which it uses , I want to change it from 22
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | zaz_
[20:21] <Name141> CogitoErgoSam: to something else
[20:21] <dpac> Mallen_, In terminal:  sudo mkdir /media/sdc1
[20:21] <knasto_> kjele, it must be a virus....
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> mkquist: boot to livecd and fsck the partition
[20:21] <sebsebseb> rrr: well Plymouth isn't new, Fedora and Mandriva have had for quite a while both of them, and they  probably do it better as well
[20:21] <kjele> knasto_: "cd ~/.gnome2" Does that work?
[20:21] <falconic> guys.. I have installed ubuntu as guest OS on a CentOS Host under Xen (using stacklet images)...but when I boot.. the Xen is stuck waiting for root device
[20:21] <rrr> i have an dell inspiron 1525 (video is intel)
[20:22] <CogitoErgoSam> Name141:  To change the listen port, look in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:22] <falconic> any idea why xen boot will get stuck like this ?
[20:22] <anom01y> I swear there is a conspiracy by Nvidia, MS, apple, and the NSA to shut peoples computers down and hamper their progress by forcing upgrades all the time
[20:22] <sebsebseb> rrr: ok you should be ok then I expect
[20:22] <TommyThaGun> Question: why would someone want to use Ubuntu over opepSUSE?
[20:22] <anom01y> firefox does this too
[20:22] <falconic> any help would be appreciated..I tried at #xen ..but no replied there..
[20:22] <Guest10265> I installed a package but can't find it, can anyone help me?????//
[20:22] <DjAngo23> Hey, I just update to 10.04. but can't found the them "light" (pink), any idea ?
[20:22] <TommyThaGun> openSUSE*
[20:22] <Mallen_> dpac: richard@Anne:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[20:22] <falconic> guys.. I have installed ubuntu as guest OS on a CentOS Host under Xen (using stacklet images)...but when I boot.. the Xen is stuck waiting for root device
[20:22] <Mallen_> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/sda1: No such file or directory
[20:22] <acicula> anom01y, the world you think that exists, where buisneses exist to serve customers is not real. deal with it
[20:22] <maco> anom01y: hamper progress? more likely its to get you to buy more hardware
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> TommyThaGun: both have advantages and disadvatages dude, it just a different distro
[20:22] <marcus> kjele: it says: could not find /boot/grub/menu.lst file. Would you like /boot/grub/menu.lst generated for you? --- what must i do?
[20:22] <delemi> Quick question: What is the easiest way to mount a location on a seperate partition to my "places". The partition is mounted in fstab but I want it to show up in places.
[20:22] <Mallen_> dpac: nvm i see my error
[20:22] <zohar> hi, can someone help me , how to use multiple monitors on ubuntu 9.1 ?
[20:23] <knasto_> kjele, yes that works
[20:23] <falconic> guys .. anyone ?
[20:23] <falconic> please help
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> TommyThaGun: there are other distros which also have dis/advantages too
[20:23] <kjele> marcus: yes
[20:23] <Guest10265> How can I find a package I installed??/
[20:23] <Shapeshifter> where do I blacklist modules in ubuntu?
[20:23] <dpac> Mallen_, you need to create /media/sda1 first
[20:23] <extreme[h00k]> hi
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> !blacklist | Shapeshifter
[20:23] <Name141> CogitoErgoSam: there we are
[20:23] <sebsebseb> !anyone | falconic
[20:23] <mkquist> ActionParsnip: its clean
[20:23] <Shapeshifter> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[20:23] <egc> does Empathy support OTR?
[20:23] <CogitoErgoSam> Name141:  /etc/ssh/sshd_config is the one for hosted ssh connections / listening daemon.   ssh_config is the client settings for when you're connecting to a different server
[20:23] <delemi> Guest10265 what are you trying to do exactly
[20:23] <Mallen_> yea, I did, but when we deleted the line of code it renamed the drive sda1
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Guest10265: can you clarify "find"
[20:23] <anom01y> acicula, maco so what do you guys do ? buy  new hardware all the time ???
[20:23] <sebsebseb> falconic: nevermind you did already ask a question
[20:23] <TommyThaGun> whoa, this channel is crazy after dist releases it looks like
[20:23] <Mallen_> so gotta delete the sdc1 folder and create another sda1
[20:23] <CogitoErgoSam> Name141:  Remember that after you change the listen port for SSH you'll need to restart the service
[20:23] <acicula> anom01y, also your card should be supported just fine with the 173.x legacy drivers, install those and if these dont work file a regression bug
[20:23] <anom01y> through out your perfectly fine hardware into the ocean ?
[20:24] <maco> anom01y: install more ram and got on with life, generally. have had 10 year old machines run ubuntu
[20:24] <kjele> knasto_: Then it should be possible to move that folder with "mv ~/.gnome2 ~/gnome2.bak"
[20:24] <anom01y> maco yeah in text mode ?
[20:24] <falconic> sebsebseb: I have installed ubuntu as guest OS on a CentOS Host under Xen (using stacklet images)...but when I boot.. the Xen is stuck waiting for root device
[20:24] <maco> Guest10265: "dpkg -L packagename" (listing the name of the package you installed) will get you a list of what was in there
[20:24] <maco> anom01y: no... with gnome
[20:24] <delgan> hi
[20:24] <anom01y> maco, 16 colors ?
[20:24] <rcsheets_> On Lucid, how can I change the default text editor from gedit to gvim?
[20:24] <maco> anom01y: it was a pentium 2, 192mb ram, and it ran 7.04
[20:24] <Shapeshifter> ActionParsnip: mh, though, if I'm not mistaken, stuff in /etc/modprobe.d should always end on *.conf, with files not ending on conf being ignored in the future. that factoid might need some updating
[20:24] <marcus> kjele: ... the report said nothing (anymore) about windows
[20:24] <Mallen_> dpac: You the man! Any ideas what cuased this to happen?
[20:24] <knasto_> kjele, oh Im sorry I thought you meant move the files in the trash
[20:24] <anom01y> I should just go 100% command line
[20:25] <maco> anom01y: no, it had an ati card capable of only doing 800x600 as it was a 10 year old card
[20:25] <sebsebseb> falconic: I don't know
[20:25] <Name141> CogitoErgoSam: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh reload ?
[20:25] <sebsebseb> falconic: try #centos ?
[20:25] <Fruzsima2> hello. I installed the kubuntu 10.04 and in the kmix I can not change the microphone and line-in volume. What can I do? All available channels are displayed.
[20:25] <CogitoErgoSam> Name141:  Any luck?
[20:25] <anom01y> maco, how the hell did you get drivers for that ????????
[20:25] <falconic> oh okie
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Shapeshifter: true, the factoid is mildly incorrect, good catch
[20:25] <falconic> let me do that/
[20:25] <Name141> CogitoErgoSam: yes
[20:25] <kjele> marcus: No, I mean to backup the config files
[20:25] <maco> anom01y: i used the open source drivers
[20:25] <anom01y> I can't even get 6 year old drivers for ati card
[20:25] <kjele> marcus: You are on lucid right?
[20:25] <acicula> anom01y, use the open source drivers
[20:25] <maco> anom01y: i absolutely DO NOT use hardware that requires proprietary drivers, period
[20:25] <haavaros> I'm trying to install a .deb package, but it tells me another package manager is running ... even after a reboot? What can I do?
[20:25] <anom01y> maco, yeah good point
[20:25] <dpac> Mallen_, most probably the missing -t switch caused this to happen. It took your drive to be ext3 and mounted
[20:25] <CogitoErgoSam> Name141:  I think so, I just did stop / start
[20:26] <kjele> knasto_: no I mean to backup the config files
[20:26] <maco> anom01y: my other machines that are nearly 10 years old have intel graphics, which means when theyre 15 years old they're still likely to work fine
[20:26] <Name141> CogitoErgoSam: it seems all of my ports are blocked at the NOC though
[20:26] <anom01y> I would like to make my own video card that I can make my own software for
[20:26] <Name141> CogitoErgoSam: silly ISP
[20:26] <acicula> anom01y, there is just such a thing
[20:26] <Mallen_> dpac: Thanks for your help!
[20:26] <zaz_> ActionParsnip: 3E0F72BECD63CAD79BF784AC2B34B448 that is the md5 has that I get for 64 bits ubuntu 10.04, where are the file hashes of the isos?
[20:26] <kjele> marcus: Sorry about that two chat at the same time is a bit hard =P
[20:26] <maco> anom01y: youknow, there ARE open source drivers for nvidia cards
[20:26] <anom01y> acicula, which vid card ?