[17:44] <cobas> actually, looking at the problem another way, are there any alternatives to vlc's http interface?
[17:44] <cobas> it'd be nice to be able to go over a browser
[17:45] <Sonne> cobas, btw you can deatach from screen and launch alsamixer for volume control :)
[17:46] <naty> I do not know moving right in linux
[17:46] <ruan> cobas: if you press "h" in moc it shows you all the hotkeys
[17:47] <ruan> cobas: apparently < and > determine volume
[17:47] <swatto> http://pastebin.com/3DjRfNyz << please can someone tell me why that second line won't execute when i run the script? it works fine if i type it on its own in terminal
[17:47] <naty> And I do not know which serves this chat
[17:48] <Jasonn_> j #znc
[17:48] <cobas> hmm. alsamixer -> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> swatto:  dont merge them like that perhaps.. do each on own line. sleep 10     then 'xchat &'
[17:48] <naty> For me you are speaking greek
[17:49] <ruan> naty: what is your native language
[17:49] <ikonia> !gr | naty
[17:49] <naty> portuguese
[17:49] <ikonia> naty: try #ubuntu-br
[17:49] <swatto> Dr_Willis: do i need the ampersand?
[17:50] <ruan> i think ubottu is gone
[17:50] <ikonia> it has
[17:50] <swatto> brb gonna try it out
[17:50] <BluesKaj> !ubottu
[17:51] <naty> More to that serves?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> yup . ubottu is on coffee break
[17:51] <boairc> hi
[17:52] <Guest62525> I wanna autoport forward port 44453 UDp and 44463 UDP in ubuntu is this doable?
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> swatto:  try it without.. and with.. learn bash job control basics. :)
[17:52] <naty> Many figures gathered in one place only
[17:52] <ruan> Guest62525: you can port forward on the router and it will do that
[17:53] <naty> an?
[17:53] <Tatsuya6400> asdf
[17:53] <alexxio_> hi, i have a grub problem
[17:53] <alexxio_> i get this doing grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[17:53] <alexxio_> http://pastebin.com/mBtGEvwY
[17:53] <alexxio_> linux is the mandriva partition and boot
[17:53] <alexxio_> but it does not go
[17:53] <FloodBot2> alexxio_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:53] <Guest62525> yes but i wanna use auto port forward through ubuntu because i cant forward any ports in my router itself, using UpnP in ubuntu?
[17:53] <Guest62525> such as uTorrent
[17:54] <Guest62525> whcih uses upnp aswell
[17:56] <EliteHunters> this franklin wireless 3g/4g usb modem is giving me some trouble, can anyone help out?
[17:56] <BluesKaj> Guest62525, try those settings in ktoorent , if you get nat errors try utorrent with wine
[17:56] <BluesKaj> err ktorrent
[17:57] <swatto> Dr_Willis: It didn't make a difference :( still doesnt load the ts3 server
[17:57] <wojox> Hey Old-un
[17:58] <BlouBlou> BluesKaj: I wouldn't use utorrent, it fails a lot
[17:59] <BluesKaj> BlouBlou, that's odd utorrent ran fine here in wine the last time I tried , a few months ago.
[17:59] <naty> ir q ganho mais
[17:59] <naty> não to entendendo nada
[18:00] <boairc> is it possible to have 3D enabled with Xinerama? I just installed ubuntu, enabled xinerama (3 monitors), but the windows and GUI elements move very bad. i mean windows move ok, but there's a lag when showing menus and stuff like that
[18:00] <naty> muitoa números para minha cabeçinha
[18:00] <boairc> 3d seems to be enabled, but for some reason GUI is laggy
[18:00] <Sonne> boairc, what's your video chipset?
[18:01] <Riiick> alguem br ?
[18:01] <Sonne> !br | Riiick
[18:01] <JohnHeikkila> Hey, installing updates on Ubuntu 10.04.2 emptied my boot folder, now booted ona live-cd. Is there a way for me to fix this? Like copy-paste the live-cd boot folder?
[18:01] <researcher123> after installing koffice I cant see it in Applications
[18:02] <researcher123> ?join #koffice
[18:02] <Riiick> sonne me responde privado
[18:02] <sss314> Can someone please explain what *exactly* does <Ctrl><Alt><2> do?
[18:02] <Abhijit> ssfdre38, nothing
[18:02] <ruan> ctrl alt 2 does nothing. ctrl alt f2 goes into full terminal
[18:03] <ruan> full console mode
[18:03] <ssfdre38> Abhijit: wrong person
[18:03] <Abhijit> :-D
[18:03] <Abhijit> sss314, nothing!!!
[18:03] <sss314> I meant <Ctrl><Alt><F2>,.. Does it log you out? shut down the GUI?
[18:03] <ruan> sss314: no
[18:04] <sss314> ruan, what no?
[18:04] <ruan> sss314: it keeps the x server running
[18:04] <researcher123> How to make an installed program visible in Application menu?
[18:04] <Abhijit> sss314, no it dont log you out. current gui seesion keeps running. at a time tty mode enabled. press ctrl alt f7/8 to go back to gui session
[18:04] <BluesKaj> Riiick, /join #ubuntu-br
[18:04] <Sonne> sss314, on linux you have a bunch of terminals at your disposal, from 1 to 7 by default - the 7th of which is the graphic one
[18:04] <BlouBlou> ruan: they are called tty
[18:04] <JohnHeikkila> ive-cd. Can I fix this w/o reinstalling? Like copy-paste the live-cd boot folder?
[18:04] <Sonne> sss314, by ctrl+alt+fX you go to terminal n.X
[18:05] <JohnHeikkila> Installing updates destroyed my boot folder, how do I fix it w/o reinstalling ubuntu?
[18:05] <sss314> Is there anything special in 2, or doesn't it matter?
[18:05] <Sonne> JohnHeikkila, are you sure you don't have /boot on a separate partition?
[18:05] <Abhijit> !fixgrub | JohnHeikkila
[18:05] <JohnHeikkila> Sonne: Nope, it's not
[18:05] <JohnHeikkila> Abhijit: Thanks, mate
[18:06] <ruan> need to fix that factoid. not only after installing windows
[18:07] <Riiick> blueskaj can you help me ?
[18:08] <BluesKaj> Riiick, depends on your problem . tell us what it is maybe others can help as well
[18:08] <JohnHeikkila> ruan: Might help ;D
[18:09] <EliteHunters> this franklin wireless 3g/4g usb modem is giving me some trouble, can anyone help out?
[18:09] <guest_> hu hu
[18:10] <guest_> hallo[
[18:10] <Sonne> EliteHunters, i'd be more specific if i was you,  might get you better chances of getting help :)
[18:11] <EliteHunters> Well, I have a Franklin Wireless U600 3G/4G USB Modem and I would like to get it to work on Ubuntu.
[18:11] <Riiick_> Can someone help me to activate my compiz fusion?
[18:11] <Sonne> !compiz
[18:11] <dd214> Where do I remove a $PATH value?
[18:12] <Sonne> dd214, by redeclaring it
[18:12] <EliteHunters> Well, I have a Franklin Wireless U600 3G/4G USB Modem and I would like to get it to work on Ubuntu.
[18:12] <Sonne> EliteHunters, that still isn't quite specific - what problem are you having?
[18:12] <ruan> EliteHunters: are there drivers on the manufacturer's website?
[18:12] <dd214> Sonne It appears each time I declare, the new path value is appended
[18:12] <EliteHunters> It isn't detectable in Ubuntu
[18:12] <Sonne> dd214, how do you redeclare it?
[18:12] <EliteHunters> and no there isn't any Linux drivers on the website
[18:13] <dd214> Sonne I want to remove an erroneous path value
[18:13] <JohnHeikkila> Abhijit, Sonne, Alrighty, thanks for the help. Gona try rebooting now.
[18:13] <Sonne> dd214, throw a "echo $PATH", and then export PATH="blablabla"
[18:13] <Sonne> where blablabla is your $PATH without the path you're removing
[18:13] <EliteHunters> and no there isn't any Linux drivers on the website, ruan
[18:13] <smith_> hi people i m new  to the irc...i have been using ubuntu for two years and now want to contribute in some way...please help me help the community
[18:13] <Abhijit> JohnHeikkila, welcome
[18:14] <Riiick_> Anyone know activate compiz fusion?
[18:14] <EliteHunters> It isn't detectable in Ubuntu, Sonne
[18:14] <Sonne> smith_, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[18:14] <Abhijit> !compiz | Riiick_
[18:14] <dd214> Sonne  guess you're not understanding me when I say the declared value appends to the $PATH variable.  I want to remove not append a path value
[18:14] <Sonne> dd214, if you do export PATH="$PATH:bla" then yes, if you do export PATH="bla" then no
[18:15] <smith_> sonne:thank you very much
[18:15] <MSI``> I have Ubuntu 9.10 and I know it expires this month, but anyways I decided to move to Ubuntu Studio which I upgraded to that using apt but when I go through System > About Ubuntu it says I am still using 9.10?
[18:15] <hihihi100> i need help installing https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-user-docs/2.91.90+git20110306ubuntu1
[18:15] <Riiick_> hello <EliteHunters>
[18:15] <hihihi100> i tried to do it as a regular tar.gz, but it didnt work
[18:15] <Riiick_> can you help me ?
[18:16] <rotten777> i'm looking to find a way to remotely (ssh) unlock the encrypted filesystems on a server after a reboot... has anyone done this?
[18:16] <JohnHeikkila> Abhijit: Wait a min, I can see /sys,/srv,/opt,/mnt,/selinux and /proc are empty too..what the heck is going on
[18:16] <dd214> Sonne so there is no config file where the paths are stored?  There appears to be multiple paths delimited by colons, I just want to remove 1 of the path values
[18:16] <Abhijit> :-p
[18:16] <hihihi100> i need help installing https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-user-docs/2.91.90+git20110306ubuntu1, it doesnt work as a regular targz, I mean configure make, sudo make install
[18:16] <Sonne> rotten777, automatically throw commands on remote machines? that's definitely doable. try searching for ssh key authentication :)
[18:16] <Abhijit> JohnHeikkila, they are nothing to do with grub
[18:16] <Riiick> Can someone help me?
[18:17] <rotten777> Sonne, is openssh-server running when it hasn't unlocked anything but the boot partition?
[18:17] <sam555> hello all!
[18:17] <JohnHeikkila> I know but I think sys should have something inside
[18:17] <Riiick> Can someone help me?
[18:17] <Riiick> Can someone help me?
[18:17] <Sonne> dd214, bash builds that path by default - if you want to change it, without specifying it every time, you can use your ~/.bashrc
[18:17] <sam555> can anyone tell me how to get yahoo messenger working with empathy IM client?
[18:17] <sam555> AIM works, but yahoo no go
[18:17] <Sonne> rotten777, what?
[18:17] <JohnHeikkila> (duhh)
[18:17] <Noor_egy> hello
[18:17] <dd214> Sonne i tried that.. gedit and didn't see the other paths that are listed when running echo $PATH
[18:18] <rotten777> Sonne, when the system boots, it has a BIOS password which is bypassed because of WOL boot; it loads the boot partition; then has to decrypt the other partitions before it can boot
[18:18] <Sonne> dd214, that's because they're built automatically by bash on launch, as i told you
[18:18] <JohnHeikkila> !ask | Riiick
[18:18] <Sonne> but if you explicitly add a PATH redeclaration in .bashrc, it's gonna be the default for the next times
[18:18] <rotten777> Sonne, as this is a server, I cannot have it automatically unlock the encrypted contents
[18:18] <rotten777> Sonne, I need to enter the key to unlock the encrypted filesystems manually
[18:18] <dd214> Sonne thnx for your help
[18:19] <Sonne> rotten777, what is encrypted? the whole filesystem or just the data?
[18:19] <rotten777> the whole filesystem outside of /boot
[18:19] <Sonne> dd214, np
[18:19] <Sonne> rotten777, then you're screwed, you need a keyboard
[18:19] <bonhoffer> i am trying to connect a wireless bridge to my ubuntu -- how do i get the ethernet to pick up
[18:20] <bonhoffer> there is wired connection 1 that i can select, but it doesn't seem to get an ip
[18:20] <rotten777> Sonne, that's what I was afraid of. I think I need a hardware console server to enter it via console
[18:21] <Sonne> rotten777, or you might choose to reinstall the thing "clear text" and only encrypt the sensitive data
[18:21] <Sonne> rotten777, another option could be to use an usb dongle with the key on it, but it's not so intuitive
[18:21] <bonhoffer> ifup type command
[18:22] <bonhoffer> or something
[18:22] <rotten777> Sonne, that adds physical security to the list of protections ;) right now someone could literally steal the server and get nothing.
[18:22] <Sonne> rotten777, if you only encrypted the data, one could literally steal the server and get a linux installation. whoo, exciting.
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> if i stole a server.. i would just want the parts. :)
[18:23] <rotten777> Sonne, full encryption plus an offsite encrypted tunneled rsync means 100% safe
[18:23]  * Sonne highs five to Dr_Willis
[18:23] <MSI``> I have Ubuntu 9.10 and I know it expires this month, but anyways I decided to move to Ubuntu Studio which I upgraded to that using apt but when I go through System > About Ubuntu it says I am still using 9.10?
[18:23] <hihihi100> i need help to install gnome-user-docs_2.91.90+git20110306ubuntu1.tar.gz
[18:23] <bonhoffer> is there a network connect setup wizzard
[18:23] <rotten777> Sonne, and they would see what type of encryption scheme and start working away on  it
[18:23] <rotten777> bah servers are dime a dozen. hardware is dirt cheap
[18:23] <Sonne> rotten777, and then get a cluster of space ships from star wars to crack aes512 and get the results in a few thousand years, sure
[18:23] <MK`> What program can I use to tell me the key code of a key I press? I have a key on this laptop that was designed to launch a windows application, it does nothing on Ubuntu and I'd like to map it to something else
[18:24] <Sonne> MK`, try xev
[18:24] <Noor_egy> hello
[18:24] <Noor_egy> yesterday i asked question here that i made alias to folder in partion d to acess it by my apache server but it alays gives me u dont have permission to acess this folder and they told me that its cause that this partioon is ntfs is there is any solutin to this propleme
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> MK`:  depending on the key. You may see a message in dmesg output when you Hit it.. that may give some info on setting it up
[18:24] <bonhoffer> any way to force a manual ip address?
[18:24] <Debolaz> Are there other IM clients available than Empathy which supports the use of webcam?
[18:25] <rotten777> bonhoffer : in network-manage you can specify a manual address...
[18:26] <Guest62525> ANyne here able to auto port forward 2 ports for me using UpnP in Ubuntu?
[18:26] <Guest62525> dunno howto
[18:32] <Sonne> rotten777, and anyway, anybody capable of cracking that kind of encryption (read: aliens) can surely tell whether a filesystem is or isn't encrypted.
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> Noor_egy:  you have to mount the ntfs with the proper options, and perhaps set apache up to follow links and ignore any  security warnings it may warn about from  accessing the ntfs with the options
[18:32] <Sonne> so full encryption only helps you feel more secure, does nothing but slowing down the system and making it uncomfortable, in reality
[18:32] <lolmatic> hi, im looking for a program which can sync files with google docs
[18:32] <MSI``> how to upgrade 9.10 to 10?
[18:32] <bonhoffer> i am trying to make a new wired connection, but i need to put in a mac-address?
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[18:32] <mehdi__> hey fellas how can i have offline application installation?
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> bonhoffer:  your hardware has its own MAC address. You shouldent need to enter that info
[18:32] <Sonne> MK`, did xev work? :)
[18:32] <Noor_egy> Dr_Willis: mount the ntfs with the proper options => what does this mean
[18:32] <MK`> reading up on it Sonne
[18:32] <Sonne> MK`, just fire up a terminal and type "xev", move the mouse pointer to the window and press the key :)
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> Noor_egy:  means you want to make a fstab entry using ntfs-3g using the proper ntfs-3g options.
[18:32] <MSI``> Dr_Willis: I want to upgrade it with 9.10 installed
[18:32] <MK`> Hm, no, nothing
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> MSI``:  the update-manager -d command might do it.. I rarely upgrade
[18:32] <MSI``> but when I open the update manager it doesn't give me the option to upgrade
[18:32] <MK`> it also seems my numberpad's /, *, and - keys do not work, Sonne heh
[18:32] <MSI``> okay
[18:32] <Sonne> MK`, those keys work for me
[18:32] <ubuntu> hello, can someone help me with this, i can seem to get firefox 4 installed
[18:32] <ubuntu> what do i do with this?
[18:32] <ubuntu> http://imagebin.org/147475
[18:32] <Abhijit> bye. gn.
[18:32] <Sonne> ubuntu, those look like sources - you should download an installer instead
[18:32] <MK`> Hm. My entire numpad o_O
[18:32] <Sonne> MK`, is the mouse pointer inside the xev window?
[18:32] <MK`> Seems the problem is worse than I thought. Sonne: Yes. It registers all mouse movements, it registers my volume keys and letter keys, but gets nothing from the number pad or that other dead key
[18:32] <ubuntu> Sonne, k, how do i do that, I just went to mozillas site and downloaded for linux, if i go to synaptic, should that be firefox4, most up to date?
[18:32] <Sonne> MK`, sounds like an hardware problem then...
[18:32] <Sonne> ubuntu, if you can use synaptic, you should always prefer that method over others
[18:32] <MK`> Sonne: they keys work on my installation of windows
[18:32] <Ascavasaion> I have an 80GbHDD in my laptop.  I partitioned it to 60Gb for Windows and 20Gb for Linux and swap.  I have MP3s that I copied to the Window NTFS partition.  When I open them with Rhythmbox and try editing the track information they default to Unknown.  Any ideas why some do it and some do not?
[18:32] <Sonne> MK`, hah! drivers then?
[18:32] <ubuntu> Sonne, k, yeah, ill just try synaptic, guess i prob shoulda done that first
[18:32] <MK`> Sonne: perhaps. I'll look into that next
[18:32] <ezhangin> I'm upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10 and my mouse and keyboard just stopped working? I can't click to advance the upgrade since it's asking me for input. How do I resolve this?
[18:32] <ezhangin> I can ssh into the machine
[18:32] <ubuntu> Sonne, one more quick one though, what do i do with packages like that, or can i do anything with them, cause i get that with most downloads from a site
[18:32] <Sonne> ubuntu, turns out those aren't sources. try with synaptic anyway, poke me back if that doesn't work
[18:33] <hopster> Hey wotox you around?
[18:33] <Sonne> ubuntu, .tar.gz / .tar.bz2 files are just archives. god knows what is inside. just like .zip... most of the times though they contain sources to be compiled
[18:33] <Sonne> MK`, is yours a laptop?
[18:33] <MK`> Sonne, yes
[18:33] <Sonne> then you should try searching it on google..
[18:35] <ubuntu> Sonne, k, so i upgraded through synaptic and that still didnt bring me up to FF4
[18:35] <hopster> toodle pip!
[18:35] <ubuntu> Sonne, uninstall/reinstall?
[18:35] <Sonne> ubuntu, most probably it's because ff4 is not in the repositories yet
[18:35] <Sonne> ubuntu, have you tried searching for a "debianized" ff4 around?
[18:35] <jsquared> I have an SSH key `foo` on my local machine, which I use to ssh into machine X. From X, how can I use `foo` to log into Y?
[18:36] <MSI``> I did update-manager -d but still no upgrade option whatsoever.
[18:36] <Sonne> oh hey ubuntu, look at what i found: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-firefox-4-in-ubuntu-using-ppa.html
[18:36] <MSI``> n/m I just got it. thanks.
[18:36] <EliteHunters> What are the steps to get a Franklin Wireless 3G/4G USB Modem to work on Ubuntu 10.10, and there isn't any Linux drivers for the device on the manufacturers webpage?
[18:36] <Sonne> jsquared, ssh-add foo
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> theres dozens of guides on getting ff4 in ubuntu >:)
[18:36] <ubuntu> Sonne, not really, thats why i just went to mozilla to start, oh cool, thanks, will check out the link
[18:36] <jsquared> Sonne: There is no `foo` on X. It's on my local machine.
[18:36] <Sonne> jsquared, oh wait. can you repeat that more clearly?
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> EliteHunters:  if you are lucky.. you just plug it in and it will work.
[18:36] <sirninja> I'm looking at getting a desktop and I'm picking out the graphics card now. In general, should I lean towards AMD ATI or NVIDIA for best ubuntu compatibility?
[18:36] <hopster> Sonne have a look here: http://www.johannes-eva.net/how-to-install-firefox-on-ubuntu-linux#a_install_firefox
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> EliteHunters:  if not. You may want to run the 'addational drivers' tool and see if it suggests any downloads.
[18:37] <Sonne> you have a key and log on X, from X you want to log on Y with the same key, is that it?
[18:37] <Guest62525> ANyne here able to auto port forward 2 ports for me using UpnP in Ubuntu?
[18:37] <jsquared> Sonne: [box A] <---> [box M] <---> [box B]. I have a key K on A, and only on A. I ssh into the middle box, M. Now I want to use K to log into B.
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:  avoide ATI at all cost.. is my advice... Nvidia, Intel, or.. well..   dont do any others. :)
[18:37] <Ascavasaion> I have an 80GbHDD in my laptop.  I partitioned it to 60Gb for Windows and 20Gb for Linux and swap.  I have MP3s that I copied to the Window NTFS partition.  When I open them with Rhythmbox and try editing the track information they default to Unknown.  Any ideas why some do it and some do not?
[18:37] <Sonne> jsquared, use ssh -A
[18:37] <EliteHunters> Well Network Manager didn't pick it up at start up Dr_Willis
[18:38] <Sonne> if you want it enabled by default ->> man ssh_config, check "ForwardAgent" directive :)
[18:38] <MK`> Sonne: I found it. The "pointer can be controlled using they keypad" mousekeys setting was taking over my numberpad. Disabling that allows it to work
[18:38] <Sonne> jsquared, also, make sure you have an ssh-agent running
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> EliteHunters:  run the addational drivers tool.
[18:38] <jsquared> Sonne: thank you sir!
[18:38] <Sonne> MK`, awesome!
[18:38] <Sonne> jsquared, np :)
[18:38] <hopster> tatty bye!
[18:39] <sirninja> Dr_Willis: Any knowledge if the NVIDIA GeForce GT 420 works nicely in ubuntu? I'd be paying extra to upgrade to NVIDIA and I just want to be sure it would work
[18:39] <EliteHunters> well then I'll have to VM the OS
[18:39] <EliteHunters> cause the USB modem is my only source for internet
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:   Proberly will. i dont have that card. check the forums.. i would place better odds on any nvidia working.. then any ATI...
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> EliteHunters:  if you ran Linux in virtualbiox under windows.. you wouldent need drivers for the thing.. since windows would be controlling it.
[18:40] <sirninja> Dr_Willis: That's what I've heard before too, but I've heard some people say ATI is at least improving now with their newer cards
[18:40] <Sonne> sirninja, if i'm not wrong i have that chipset
[18:40] <Sonne> and i'm running smoothly :)
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:  'ati' has promised a lot.. and still has problems.
[18:40] <Sonne> ati has never worked properly once since their first release
[18:40] <aie> hello everyone
[18:40] <sirninja> Sonne: Oh really? Think you could double check that for me?
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:  I have a desktop that i cant get the ati drivers working in quiet a few differnt disrtos.. i got it at xmas time.
[18:40] <Sonne> sirninja, just a moment
[18:41] <MK`> Sonne: The dead key still doesn't register with xev
[18:41] <Sonne> lspci says GT216
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:  ati is good at promises... not so good at delivering on them.
[18:41] <EliteHunters> True, but when I need to install it as my dominant OS, I'll still need to work around the problem Dr_Willis
[18:41] <Sonne> MK`, that's quite strange, xev should catch raw inputs
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> MK`:  check dmesg out put. see if it mentions the key.
[18:42] <Dr_Willis> EliteHunters:  you could always get some USB dongle that has better support.  I dont use USB wireless. so cant suggest any.
[18:42] <Sonne> sirninja, i guess that's not it.. still, i hardly ever had problems with nvidia stuff whatsoever :)
[18:42] <Dr_Willis> EliteHunters:  if it does need some exctra packages. you can download them  other ways and copy them over.
[18:42] <Sonne> except for that nforce builtin eth card back in the early 2000s.. that was painful
[18:42] <ThunderStorm> Hello,
[18:42] <ThunderStorm> I'm using the IDE Netbeans (text editor) on my /home/michael Ubuntu account. I'm trying to open a file with Netbeans that's owned by root, I can't do this as I expected. So is there a way to run NetBeans as root, or is there a way to give netbeans permission to open/save files owned by root.
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> ThunderStorm:  set the proper permissions on the file and the user can access it.
[18:43] <Sonne> ThunderStorm, why don't you just change ownership to that file?
[18:43] <crooker> hi
[18:43] <Sonne> sudo chown michael filename
[18:43] <EliteHunters> Dr_Willis well the USB Modem runs of CDMA and WiMax
[18:43] <ThunderStorm> The file is formy web server, the files need to be root
[18:43] <ThunderStorm> htdocs
[18:43] <MK`> [ 7737.217303] atkbd serio0: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x9a on isa0060/serio0).
[18:43] <MK`> [ 7737.217308] atkbd serio0: Use 'setkeycodes e01a <keycode>' to make it known.
[18:43] <MK`> May that be the error Sonne, Dr_Willis?
[18:43] <Sonne> ThunderStorm, since when do htdocs need to be owned by root?
[18:43] <sirninja> Sonne: Guess I'll spend the money and upgrade to nvidia just in case. So for future reference, do I install through the restricted driver thing or is it built in to the kernel? I assume restricted driver?
[18:44] <Sonne> MK`, might as well be
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> MK`:  thats ;setkeycodes command.. is why i suggested checking dmesg a long time ago. :) system wont see anything about that key untill you do that command.
[18:44] <Sonne> sirninja, restricted driver indeed - ubuntu has a nice UI for that though
[18:44] <MK`> Heh Dr_Willis, what do I set it to?
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> MK`:  i had an old keyboard ui had to use that command on - to set up all the media keys.
[18:44] <ThunderStorm> It' compicated
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> MK`:  you can map it to some other keycode. I recall some wiki pages on the topic.
[18:45] <ThunderStorm> I'm using Zend Tool (CLI) for Zend Framework, that sets up a default skeleton project with root ownership -- so I assume they need to be root
[18:45] <Sonne> ThunderStorm, anyway, you can either run netbeans as root (BAD) or work on a local copy of those files and then sync them
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> You could use the enter xf86_next   code  and it would act like a 'next' button I recall.
[18:45] <Sonne> ThunderStorm, i don't know that tool, but anything involving development and root in the same sentence is 99% of the times bad - or used incorrectly
[18:45] <MK`> Should i set it as another key like 'a' to test it?
[18:45] <EliteHunters> Dr_Willis so with that being my only option for internet, I really have no choice but to work around getting it to work on a Linux platform
[18:46] <sirninja> Sonne: I'm looking at getting a wireless network card, but it doesn't say the brand on the hp site I'm buying it from, but generally most brands will at least work now, correct?
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> EliteHunters:  learn how to download the files needed..  or set up some small lan/take it somewhere you can direct connect.
[18:46] <Sonne> sirninja, i'm not having problems with wireless cards on linux since 2004 i believe
[18:46] <Sonne> and by that time i was using an usb dongle with poorly written drivers on a powerpc ibook..
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:  it pays to do reserach for network cards..    its all about the 'chipset' the card is using.
[18:47] <BlouBlou> sirninja: years ago, ubuntu had a lot of problems with them. But right now, it works fine with the most of them
[18:47] <ThunderStorm> Sonne, cheers
[18:47] <syn-ack> BlouBlou, That should be "linux" had a lot of problems with them not Ubuntu
[18:47] <sirninja> Dr_Willis: I know, it just doesn't list the chipset on this page... I'll look into it I guess
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:  yep. brand wont  matter at all  really.. its all about the chipset the card uses.
[18:48] <BlouBlou> syn-ack: well... yes
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:  It has gotten where i can go to a local pc parts place.. and look at box's and actually Find Wirless cards with 'linux supported' written on the box. :) yea...
[18:49] <ezhangin> hey guys, i figured out a way around my dead mouse issue, i just used synergy
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> synergy is a handy tool.
[18:50] <MK`> Dr_Willis: when I tried that and some other codes it returns "Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console
[18:50] <MK`> "
[18:50] <aboynamedblue> Hey thanks to everyone who helped, got my NetGear wna 1100 working in harmony with Ubuntu; all is right in the world :)
[18:51] <ubuntu> Sonne, cool, thanks for the help, was able to follow that walk through and got 4 installed
[18:51] <ubuntu> Sonne, appreciate the help
[18:52] <ezhangin> yeah Dr_Willis for some reason all my input devices stopped working when upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10 and i couldn't choose any options to move the upgrade forwards
[18:52] <ezhangin> very strange
[18:52] <ezhangin> so i just hooked up synergy
[18:53] <chad___> How can I run executable files from a flash drive?
[18:54] <MK`> ah I needed to run it as root nvm
[18:54] <smith_> i want to contribute to ubuntu in its packaging and maintainence . Please help me.
[18:55] <ikonia> smith_: start packaging stuff up then
[18:55] <ernest_> hello
[18:55] <ezhangin> gtg
[18:55] <smith_> ikonia: how to give a start
[18:55] <ikonia> smith_: read the packaging guides and package up some test packages
[18:56] <Jon--> My gnome terminal is not using ALT as the MODE key (or whatever it's called) so I can't use it for irssi. It instead is using alt+num to switch to tab of num at the top. How can I reconfigure this?
[18:57] <ernest_> hello jon
[18:57] <ernest_> configure  in system
[18:58] <trism> Jon--: Edit/Keyboard Shortcuts
[18:58] <chad___> How can I give files residing on my flash drive executable permission?
[18:58] <mehdi__> how can i use apt-offline? i dont get the examples in  man page
[18:58] <smw> chad___, chmod 755?
[18:59] <chad___> smw: I'm not sure why I'd need '55', but all right.
[18:59] <ernest_> but right propieties
[18:59] <smw> chad___, you don't
[19:00] <ernest_> español
[19:00] <smw> chad___, 55 allows everyone to execute it
[19:00] <smw> !es | ernest_
[19:00] <matthew_> hey i need some help
[19:00] <smw> !ask | matthew_
[19:00] <ernest_> sudo chmod 755 /direccionarchivo
[19:00] <chad___> I tried chmod -R 700 /media/SD, but no luck.
[19:01] <Jon--> Does anyone want to help me make a complicated script?
[19:01] <ernest_> - R recursive
[19:01] <smw> !anyone > Jon--
[19:01] <matthew_> i am trying to us my hdmi out on my laptop it is working sorta but the tv cuts out some of my desktop and i dont see the whole desktop on my tv for some reason this hast to be a easy fix i have tried google
[19:01] <ernest_> change files
[19:01] <smw> ernest_, are you talking to someone?
[19:01] <mehdi__> say ur problem Jon--
[19:02] <ikonia> matthew_: why does there have to be an easy fix ?
[19:02] <matthew_> ikonia, cause all it needs is to be resized
[19:02] <ikonia> Jon--: scripting, the people in #bash may want to help
[19:02] <MK`> Ok Sonne and Dr_Willis, I was able to map the dead key, and find it's xf86 name. However I also have a Fn key on this keyboard that doesn't register in xev, nor does it give an error in dmesg. Any idea what that could be?
[19:02] <ikonia> matthew_: so, why does that need to be easy, I had a lot of problems configuring my hdmi for video and sound on my laptop, very little of it was "easy"
[19:03] <Jon--> I need to somehow distinguish one terminal from another using its PID in wmctrl -l so I can have one scratchpad terminal that I move around but I want to have other gnome-terminal's open as well which won't be found by my script. My script as it is just finds the first gnome-terminal instance it can. See http://pastebin.com/upWSUdrU for my current script.
[19:03] <miles__> Hey everyone whats up.
[19:03] <matthew_> ikonia,  it was a easy fix in windows but your right
[19:03] <ACameron> I'm trying to determine if there are any differences between the files in two folders.  One is on a digital camera connected to my computer; the other is on a hard drive.  I can't open the digital camera folder (gphoto2://[usb:###,###]/path/to/stuff) in the terminal so I can't ls and grep.  Any ideas?
[19:03] <ikonia> !topic | miles__
[19:03] <Psycho_Mario> in screen, when its vertically split, is it possible to scroll both regions at the same time? i want to be able to view files side by side
[19:03] <ikonia> matthew_: you're not using Windows, so it's a pointless comparison
[19:03] <matthew_> ikonia, over spekulation on my part
[19:03] <ikonia> matthew_: what video card is it ?
[19:04] <marina> hi
[19:04] <smw> hi marina
[19:04] <coz_> marina,  welcom
[19:04] <coz_> welcome
[19:05] <Just_Playin> hey all
[19:05] <coz_> hey
[19:05] <marina> I'm trying to configure nvidia card on ubuntu, it works, but I can't use with HDMI I googled a lot but without solution
[19:05] <ACameron> No ideas as to how to grep the directory listing of a folder on a digital camera, eh?
[19:05] <marina> and I've no errors.. how can I solve this?
[19:05] <ikonia> matthew_: how perfect timing, I was just talking about that with matthew_
[19:05] <Just_Playin> sems to be only network runnin    of the 4 i tried
[19:05] <Just_Playin> lol
[19:05] <marina> I'm using propretary drivers
[19:05] <ikonia> matthew_: what happenes when you said it to hdmi output
[19:05] <marina> nvidia-173
[19:05] <ikonia> matthew_: sorry, that was for marina
[19:05] <matthew_> ikonia, i cant find out its a generic one with my acer aspire 5336-2523
[19:05] <smw> marina, the video or just audio does not work?
[19:06] <ikonia> matthew_: chat chipset
[19:06] <ikonia> matthew_: "what" chipset
[19:06] <suicidolt> how do I set my app launcher to run a command, when I run it from command line, I go to the directory and type ./command, so how do I do that in the app launcher
[19:06] <matthew_> ikonia, im not sure how would i find out
[19:06] <Jon--> I need to somehow distinguish one terminal from another using its PID in wmctrl -l so I can have one scratchpad terminal that I move around but I want to have other gnome-terminal's open as well which won't be found by my script. My script as it is just finds the first gnome-terminal instance it can. See http://pastebin.com/upWSUdrU for my current script.
[19:06] <ikonia> matthew_: open a terminal and type "lspci"
[19:06] <MSI``> Once I upgrade to 10.04 from 9.04 will it effect my ubuntu studio that I put on there that I recently put?
[19:06] <ikonia> Jon--: try in ##bash
[19:06] <marina> ikonia, uh? how?
[19:07] <ikonia> marina: how are you trying to send the output to hdmi
[19:07] <marina> smw, both, I attached an lcd television
[19:07] <marina> I was thinking that when you connect in logs you can see that device
[19:07] <pc_magas> Here is the community of Ubuntu-gr.org (including me) @ Openfest in Athens: http://www.imagehosting.gr/out.php/i1534292_dscn1860.jpg
[19:07] <ikonia> marina: no, you have to configure it
[19:07] <ikonia> pc_magas: why are you posting that in a support channel ?
[19:08] <pc_magas> Just to give the presence of helenic community of ubuntu
[19:08] <Oins> I have a dictating machine (Sharp PA-VR10E). It generates .s16 .s32 .s48 file type formats. Anyone a clue what's that for a format and how i can play it at linux?
[19:08] <matthew_> ikonia, graphics controller Intel corporation 82801I (ich9 Family)
[19:08] <marina> ikonia, what do u mean? I can't see it in nvidia configuration panel
[19:08] <ikonia> matthew_: good, intel was the easier to configure
[19:09] <matthew_> ikonia, kk
[19:09] <marina> oh! "detect video" now detects it
[19:09] <ikonia> marina: by default your display will be your monitor/laptop display, you have to tell it to go to a different output
[19:09] <suicidolt> seriously? the linux support channel doesn't even know how to build an app launcher?
[19:09] <miles__> Damn, Why isn't there a linux version of halo combat evolved, Now i gotta configure it all over.
[19:09] <smw> suicidolt, what are you talking about?
[19:10] <smw> suicidolt, what is an app launcher?
[19:10] <iceroot> miles__: ask microsoft and not us
[19:10] <suicidolt> an application launcher, that you add to a panel
[19:10] <miles__> Iceroot: I know i'm just commenting on it.
[19:10] <ikonia> suicidolt: do you know ?
[19:10] <suicidolt> I came to ask
[19:10] <MSI``> LOL
[19:11] <ikonia> suicidolt: ok, so if you don't know, why are you complaining that others don't know
[19:11] <BluesKaj> miles__,complain to the game dev company for not porting to linux
[19:11] <Jon--> If I do 'gnome-terminal --role test' how do I then find the gnome-terminal instance open with role == test ?
[19:11] <suicidolt> because I'm brand new to linux, not the "support" experts here who apparently have no problem explaining how to build out hardware changes in the terminal
[19:11] <marina> ikonia, uhm still black screen btw now I can configure it :) i tried to configure it at 1024 x 768 twinview mode but still black
[19:12] <ikonia> suicidolt: doesn't mean they know what you want, when they want
[19:12] <dd214> I've mounted my Android phone for development, added the necessary paths for the SDK to the ~/.bashrc and paths are present in echo $PATH command.  I've also added the vendor rule to the /etc/udev/rules.d... and when I run a kill / start service against "adb" then run "adb devices" I get:  List of devices attached: ?????????????? no permissions
[19:12] <ikonia> marina: I'm not sure if it will work with twinview, I had real issues with nvidia and hdmi out,
[19:12] <ikonia> however the intel one worked much much better
[19:12] <suicidolt> ikonia: so you're saying that you've used linux for x years and don't know how to start a program?
[19:12] <matthew_> ikonia, so whats the first step?
[19:12] <smw> suicidolt, different people know different things and everyone here is a volunteer.
[19:12] <ikonia> marina: you may have to hard code options into the xorg
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> dd214:  try sudo adb devices   perhasps?
[19:13] <BluesKaj> suicidolt, is that a question , if so , please clarify your meaning
[19:13] <ikonia> matthew_: does the display manager detect your TV that it's plugged into, this was the real problem I found
[19:13] <ikonia> suicidolt: pretty sure I do, yes
[19:13] <miles__> I really need to get a better linux pc.
[19:13] <marina> ikonia, uh.. there is some documentation somewehere?
[19:13] <suicidolt> BluesKaj: when I did before I was ignroed.  how do I set up an application launcher to do this:  When I go to the terminal, I cd to the directory and type ./command
[19:13] <matthew_> ikonia, yeh it detects it and iv even was able to turn display out on it just dident show the whole desktop
[19:14] <smw> suicidolt, I have used it for over a decade and I don't know how to launch a program they way you want to. Nor am I sure I know what you want.
[19:14] <dd214> Dr_Willis when running "sudo adb" returns: command not found
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> suicidolt:  make a script that does the cd, then the ./commamnd  is one way
[19:14] <ikonia> marina: there was some notes in the nvidia driver release notes
[19:14] <marina> ikonia, I try to reboot tanx for ur help :D
[19:14] <suicidolt> smw: you see the little buttons on your panel? they're called application launcher
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> dd214:  sudo is using a differnt path.. perhaps  use the full path to the command.
[19:14] <ikonia> matthew_: ok, so it sounds like its detecting it incorrectly, hence displaying the wrong size screen
[19:14] <BluesKaj> !alais | suicidolt
[19:15] <ikonia> matthew_: you may need to force your TV settings into xorg.conf
[19:15] <smw> suicidolt, system -> preferences -> main menu
[19:15] <BluesKaj> !alias | suicidolt
[19:15] <matthew_> ikonia, ok
[19:15] <ikonia> suicidolt: right click on the desktop and select create application launcher
[19:15] <ikonia> matthew_: this was a similar problem I was having with the intel card
[19:15] <smw> suicidolt, and no, the actual entries are not called application launchers
[19:16] <smw> suicidolt, however the main menu program allows you to edit the menus.
[19:16] <suicidolt> smw: would you like a screenshot?
[19:16] <smw> suicidolt, what? I just gave you the answer
[19:16] <suicidolt> smw: and editing the menu requires the same command I don't know how to do
[19:16] <matthew_> ikonia, oh i dont know if this matters but i used wubi to install and it insatalled the 64bit version of ubuntu cause my windows one is 64 bit
[19:16] <suicidolt> it has a box to enter the command
[19:16] <ikonia> matthew_: ah, I don't support wubi, sorry
[19:17] <suicidolt> and I don't know what the command is, I know that in order to open it in terminal I cd to the directory and type ./command
[19:17] <matthew_> ikonia, ?
[19:17] <smw> !who > suicidolt
[19:17] <ikonia> matthew_: I don't support wubi installs, sorry
[19:17] <smw> suicidolt, you need to make a script that does that. Or, you can cd /path; ./command
[19:17] <matthew_> ikonia, ok
[19:18] <Navion> I loaded Ubuntu 10.04 on a new server with an Intel motherboard. I can't set the display resolution to be anything big enough to be useful. I know the display will do 1600x1400 (ish) and I tried loading OpenSolaris on this system and it lets me set the resolution up but Ubuntu wo't let me set anything better than 780x400 (ish). Solaris reports the video card as a Martox MGA G200e. Intel in their docs say it's an SM712. Any ideas?
[19:18] <suicidolt> smw: so the "command" box needs to say "cd /usr/local/games/nwn; ./nwn" yes?
[19:18] <matthew_> ikonia, would you mind me asking how come?
[19:18] <smw> suicidolt, I believe so. That is what I would try.
[19:18] <suicidolt> no such file or directory
[19:19] <ikonia> matthew_: I don't like technology
[19:19] <dd214> Dr_Willis  good thought.. I sudo'd the kill/start server command for adb by providing the full path.  After the server start, the device is now recognized.
[19:20] <smw> matthew_, probably because ikonia has never used wubi.
[19:20] <suicidolt> smw: no such file or directory
[19:20] <Ascavasaion> I have an 80GbHDD in my laptop.  I partitioned it to 60Gb for Windows and 20Gb for Linux and swap.  I have MP3s that I copied to the Window NTFS partition.  When I open them with Rhythmbox and try editing the track information they default to Unknown.  Any ideas why some do it and some do not?
[19:20] <bonhoffer> is there an easy way to make a window take up half the screen (vertically) in ubuntu default windows manager
[19:20] <dd214> Dr_Willis the next question: Where can I configure the adb file path so it's also globally available to sudo?
[19:20] <smw> suicidolt, ok, make a script and make the command the path to the script
[19:20] <matthew_> smw, probally
[19:21] <suicidolt> smw: how do I make a script?
[19:22] <matthew_> ikonia, could you tell me how i would do it if i dident use a wubi install
[19:22] <ikonia> matthew_: sorry, no, I don't support wubi installs
[19:22] <smw> suicidolt, you make a text file. You start the first line with #!/bin/bash
[19:22] <smw> suicidolt, then you put one cmd on each line.
[19:22] <smw> suicidolt, then you chmod 755 the_file.sh
[19:22] <suicidolt> hmm, neat.  what does the #!/bin/bash do?
[19:22] <ruan> tells it to open with bash
[19:23] <smw> suicidolt, it tells linux to use bash to run the commands.
[19:23] <miles__> Well, not playonlinux can't even configure halo CE right.
[19:23] <ikonia> miles__: we don't need a commentary
[19:24] <matthew_> any one know of a program that will help me force my tv out setting
[19:24] <bonhoffer> on mac, i use sizeup, which is a quick way to get my window to take up the left or right half of the screen, i am sure this has to be easy
[19:24] <bonhoffer> on ubuntu
[19:25] <miles__> Ikonia: well thats pretty rude, would you rather me start asking you questions even though your already helping others and then just get mad at you when you don't help me.
[19:25] <tv_> is this where newbies go for ubuntu hekp?
[19:25] <ruan> tv_: yes
[19:25] <tv_> do we ask questions here?
[19:25] <ikonia> miles__: not really, asking you to not commentate is quite reason, if you have a question, ask a question, if not don't
[19:26] <smw> tv_, yes
[19:26] <ruan> tv_: it's an ubuntu support channel.
[19:26] <aeon-ltd> tv_: yes, anything ubuntu support related is supposed to be asked here
[19:26] <BluesKaj> matthew_, tv out is VGA , DVI or hdmi ?
[19:26] <miles__> Ikonia: So you would rather get asked questions everyday all day. Pretty sad.
[19:26] <matthew_> BluesKaj, hdmi
[19:26] <ikonia> miles__: ask a question to the channel, we don't need a commentary
[19:26] <smw> miles__, we volunteer here to answer questions.
[19:27] <smw> miles__, are you saying that helping people like you is sad?
[19:27] <smw> milamber, I would be inclined to agree at this point.
[19:27] <smw> miles__, ^
[19:27] <tv_> I am having graphics problems on a dell optiplex 260 with integrated graphics. I cannot adjust the resolution
[19:27] <aeon-ltd> !attitude | miles__
[19:28] <matthew_> BluesKaj, i been looking all over to fix this problem
[19:28] <aeon-ltd> tv_: got drivers installed?
[19:28] <BluesKaj> matthew_, nvidia ?
[19:28] <matthew_> BluesKaj, intel
[19:28] <tv_> i cant find them.  i think i have intel graphivs
[19:28] <Navion> aeon-itd: Sounds like the problem I have. What's the graphic chip set?
[19:28] <miles__> smw: I haven't asked for help, the most i've done is waited since ikonia seemed to be the only one helping people while helping two people, it would make sense to not add another problem to it, saying the things i said gives chances to other volenteers to help me rather then me asking every user on the channel.
[19:29] <aeon-ltd> Navion: i think you meant to ask that to tv_
[19:30] <BluesKaj> matthew_, is there an intel GUI app to see your hdmi interface device
[19:30] <bet0x> Hello, i got an issue my Linux has a raid 10 with 12 disks of 2TB c/u over a Linux with hardware raid, 2 disks fails on my raid and now i dont know how recover that 2 disk to get my machine working again, there is any solution or recommendation here???
[19:31] <ikonia> bet0x: what is the raid controller ?
[19:31] <Navion> tv_, Sounds like the problem I have. What's the graphic chip set? You should be able to find out what the motherboard is when the boot screen comes up after power up before Ubuntu loads. Then Google forthe motherboard specs to find out what the graphics controller is.
[19:31] <bet0x> let me check
[19:31] <Navion> aeon-ltd, yes, thanks. ;)
[19:31] <matthew_> BluesKaj, not that i can see sadly
[19:32] <tv_> Integrated Intel Extreme graphics is what it says in spec sheet
[19:32] <ikonia> matthew_: hdmi is working, you need to force it's resolution in the xorg.conf
[19:33] <matthew_> ikonia, ok thanks
[19:33] <matthew_> ikonia, im researching it
[19:34] <bet0x> ikonia: MegaRaid
[19:34] <ikonia> bet0x: who makes it ?
[19:34] <ikonia> bet0x: lsi ?
[19:35] <tv_> Navion
[19:35] <bet0x> ikonia: MegaRaid SAS 8708ELP
[19:35] <bet0x> ikonia: yes LSI}
[19:35] <tv_> navation , Intel 845G Integrated Graphics
[19:36] <Danielcg25> I'm going to multi-boot Ubuntu, MacOS, and Windows 7 on my new MBP.
[19:36] <Danielcg25> Should I just format my HD as MacOS and use BootCamp to install Windows, then rob Windows of some disk space for Ubuntu with GParted?
[19:36] <ikonia> bet0x: the raid recovery/array tools are on board the card, presss F8 when you see the cards bios and you can add/replace disks
[19:37] <dadal_metal> hai all
[19:37] <matthew_> where is xorg.config located
[19:37] <ikonia> matthew_: it should be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf but you have to create it
[19:37] <ikonia> matthew_: the file is "xorg.conf" not xorg.config
[19:38] <tv_> mattew_
[19:38] <dadal_metal> !help
[19:39] <tv_> I need a driver for Intel 845G Integrated Graphics
[19:39] <ikonia> tv_: you don't it's inbuilt into your xorg install already
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[19:40] <Navion> Danielcg25: What kind of Mac? I just got done doing an Ubuntu load on a Mac Mini (4,1)
[19:41] <Danielcg25> 2011 MacBook Pro 13" Intel 15
[19:41] <tv_> why cant i change my resolution then?
[19:41] <Danielcg25> *i5
[19:41] <Bruce_Wayne> I want to add lyrics of a video song as a subtitle and then merge it.. any suggestions for tools?
[19:41] <ikonia> tv_: it may be falling back to the vesa driver
[19:41] <victorhugo289> Hi, I'm trying to use wireshark for the first time and I see no network devices listed in there, it shows empty. I watched like 10 videos on Youtube about how to use it only to see an emtpy list. Can anyone help me?
[19:42] <gsp2009> Bruce_Wayne: Openshot?
[19:42] <Danielcg25> Navion: 2011 MacBook Pro Intel i5
[19:42] <victorhugo289> I went to the #Wireshark but there's no one there.
[19:42] <gsp2009> victorhugo289: permissions? I remember having the same problem and having to run as root
[19:42] <victorhugo289> Really? I'll have to check that.
[19:43] <victorhugo289> How do I run as root?
[19:43] <ikonia> victorhugo289: sudo -i
[19:43] <gsp2009> victorhugo289: not sure if this is a problem though. It may not be recommended. But it will give you a start to troubleshoot
[19:43] <Bruce_Wayne> gsp2009: I meant, I will have to make some subtitle file (.srt/.sub) according to video song and then merge it.. Does Openshot provide such a facility?
[19:43] <tv_> ikonia
[19:43] <ikonia> tv_:
[19:43] <victorhugo289> I've been using Ubuntu for months and only ran as root in the terminal using sudo.
[19:43] <gsp2009> victorhugo289: just sudo wireshark from terminal
[19:43] <victorhugo289> ok
[19:43] <tv_> -ikonia: how can i check?
[19:44] <victorhugo289> ok
[19:44] <ikonia> tv_: the xorg logs will show the xorg driver in use
[19:44] <Navion> Danielcg25: You need use BootCamp to make the patitions. The one you're going to use for Ubuntu will be a "Windows" partition until it gets changed to ext4 when you do the formating in Ubuntu installation. There are Mac pages in the Ubuntu docs that are pretty helpful. You can see what will and won't work.
[19:44] <matthew_> how do i force resolution in xorg.conf google is not my friend today
[19:44] <Navion> Danielcg25: Get rEFIt to use for a boot manager
[19:44] <Danielcg25> Navion: Right now it's installing a fresh copy of Snow Leopard
[19:44] <victorhugo289> @gsp2009, that was awesome, haha, it works!
[19:45] <Navion> Danielcg25: Good start. ;)
[19:45] <victorhugo289> I can see everything now, thanks.
[19:45] <Danielcg25> Are there any GUI boot managers?
[19:45] <tv_> ikonia: can you tell me how to view tyhat?
[19:45] <gsp2009> victorhugo289: np
[19:45] <ikonia> tv_: open it in a text editor
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Danielcg25: grub has a gui, just hold shift at boot and you'll see it
[19:46] <gsp2009> Bruce_Wayne: not sure. I don't really know much about subtitle files. Sorry.
[19:46] <Danielcg25> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[19:47] <gsp2009> Bruce_Wayne: check #openshot on freenode
[19:47] <matthew_> ikonia, what would i force the resolution to?
[19:47] <ikonia> matthew_: come on, what ever yout TV supports
[19:48] <matthew_> ikonia, ok
[19:48] <tuxx1> hello, how can I change ubuntu-mono-dark iconset's those arrow, stop, reload icons which appear in nautilus
[19:48] <noisewaterphd> Calling all disk experts (partitioning, formatting)
[19:48] <ikonia> noisewaterphd: calling people who can just ask a quesetion without pre-amble
[19:49]  * gsp2009 lolz
[19:49] <Navion> Danielcg25: rEFIt is a GUI boot manager
[19:49] <Danielcg25> Navion: Thanks :)
[19:50] <taher> This is a lot of peopple =)
[19:50] <Datte> hey guys i installed ubuntu with every apps i need it and i want to install ubuntu on a laptop but i dont wanto use "apt-get install" from internet how can i install apps on the laptop
[19:50] <Datte> ?
[19:50] <noisewaterphd> a friend came to me this morning in a mad panic. he has a laptop with 2 seperate internal drives. he was running win7, used wubi to install 10.10 to the second drive. ubuntu works great, but after the install his windows drive seems to have been partitioned somehow. nothing is on it
[19:51] <matthew_> ikonia, this look right for the xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/s91W71Xf
[19:51] <noisewaterphd> do you think the wubi installer partitioned his win drive? he really needs his docs and music off of it
[19:51] <ikonia> noisewaterphd: then it's fone
[19:51] <ikonia> gone
[19:51] <lolmatic> can anybody tell me how i get sound for old games which use /dev/dsp (oss or what?)
[19:51] <noisewaterphd> no way to recover any of it?
[19:52] <noisewaterphd> photorec or nothing could grab stuff?
[19:52] <ikonia> noisewaterphd: depends how it's gone, but as you don't know how you did it, I'd assume it's gone
[19:52] <ikonia> matthew_: that's using two displays at once, it's not avery compelte for both displays
[19:52] <tv_> ikonia : xorg log has references to vesa including "Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"" does this mean i am running the wrong driver?
[19:52] <ikonia> matthew_: certainly with a try
[19:52] <ikonia> tv_: looks that way yes
[19:52] <noisewaterphd> well i was initially skeptical that his laptop even really had 2 seperate drives in it. but sure enough, it does
[19:53] <ikonia> matthew_: hang on
[19:53] <matthew_> ikonia, kk
[19:53] <ikonia> matthew_: that's for nvidia, you're not using nvidia
[19:53] <ikonia> matthew_: twinview is nvidia
[19:53] <noisewaterphd> so why would wubi partition a drive he didnt even select?
[19:54] <noisewaterphd> or do you think he maybe made a mistake
[19:54] <matthew_> ikonia, could i change that to work with intel
[19:54] <tv_> ikonia: thanks, can anyone tell me how to get the driver for Intel 845G Integrated Graphics
[19:54] <ikonia> matthew_: you could modify it to not use the nvidia options, sure, it's a good starting base
[19:54] <OldParr> is skype on repos?
[19:54] <ikonia> tv_: you'll need to make an xorg.conf file, and force it to use the intel driver
[19:54] <ikonia> !skype | OldParr
[19:54] <matthew_> ikonia, kk
[19:54] <phyrrus9> @noisewaterphd wubi dosnt partition ... it makes a virtual disk file un /ubuntu
[19:55] <Danielcg25> Navion: Snow Leopard is finished installing. Should I update software before doing BootCamp?
[19:55] <Navion> Danielcg25: Yes, that's a good idea.
[19:55] <boairc> hi
[19:55] <ikonia> Danielcg25: the guys in ##macosx or ##apple can help you with mac support
[19:55] <phyrrus9> @Danialcg25 yes
[19:55] <tv_> ikonia: that sounds over my head, can you direct me to a tutorial?
[19:56] <ikonia> tv_: I'm not aware of one
[19:56] <Danielcg25> ikonia: I'm installing Ubuntu on a Mac, so I didn't know which room to go to
[19:56] <boairc> guys, i am trying to setup ubuntu with 3 monitors
[19:56] <ikonia> Danielcg25: ##apple for the mac/bootstuff/macos stuff
[19:56] <boairc> xinerama worked but i get no compiz
[19:56] <Navion> ikonia: But they don't know zip about Ubuntu which is where Danielcg25 is going with this thread.
[19:56] <ikonia> Navion: they do, and he's not using ubuntu yet
[19:57] <ikonia> Navion: this is mac stuff, they can set that up for him
[19:57] <boairc> been reading that xinerama is not compatible with compiz. is that so?
[19:57] <ikonia> boairc: a lot of cards can't do 3d support with xinerama which causes compiz problems
[19:57] <Navion> Danielcg25: OK, Well, I wasn't getting any help from them 2 weeks ago when I struggled through this.
[19:57] <matthew_> ikonia, crashed my self
[19:58] <Danielcg25> Navion: It's checking for new software
[19:58] <Navion> Danielcg25: Good...
[19:58] <boairc> ikonia: i have nvidia 8600 and 8400
[19:58] <ikonia> boairc: so ?
[19:58] <phyrrus9> hey does anybody know how to make my battery last even longer ??? i have about 7.5hrs on ubuntu 10.10 fluxbox
[19:59] <ikonia> phyrrus9: thats pretty good for a 9cell battery on any device,
[19:59] <Ladynikon> phyrrus9: command line
[19:59] <Danielcg25> I have 600 MBs of updates to download, and I have a 60kB/s connection.
[19:59] <Danielcg25> I'll be back when it's done ;$
[19:59] <Logan_> !away > N3M35I5_away
[19:59] <phyrrus9> adynikon: i do use the command line for everything
[19:59] <boairc> ikonia: so can you point me in the right direction to get this setup?
[19:59] <ikonia> boairc: setup with what ?
[19:59] <phyrrus9> and i have a 12-cell battery
[20:00] <ikonia> phyrrus9: still pretty good
[20:00] <boairc> to setup my 3 monitors so i have 3D acceleration on them and so the GUI doesn't have bad performance
[20:00] <ikonia> boairc: how many cards are you using ?
[20:00] <boairc> right now i can see the windows being redrawn when i drag them around
[20:00] <boairc> 2 cards, both nvidia
[20:00] <dasboot> 2 dragons
[20:01] <dasboot> i want 2
[20:01] <ikonia> boairc: ok, so you can't use twinview as that is limited to 1 card only
[20:01] <phyrrus9> ikonika ... whats your battlife?
[20:01] <boairc> ikonia: yes. i need for 3 monitors
[20:01] <matthew_> ikonia, you know any thing about xrandr could that fix my probleM?
[20:01] <ikonia> boairc: your options are limited, I'd suggest looking at the open source drivers,
[20:02] <ikonia> matthew_: sure, but I've told you what you need to do
[20:02] <boairc> open source drivers don't have 3D accel
[20:02] <ikonia> boairc: then your options are limited to almost zero
[20:02] <matthew_> ikonia, force my resolution in org.conf got it
[20:02] <dasboot> they suck ass!
[20:02] <dasboot> assssssssssssssss
[20:02] <ikonia> dasboot: stop it
[20:02] <boairc> damn
[20:02] <boairc> so i guess i'll go back to windows
[20:02] <boairc> :(
[20:02] <ikonia> boairc: if you want
[20:03] <boairc> i just wasted an entire day
[20:03] <dasboot> i'll go back to windows with you, boairc
[20:03] <boairc> well, linux is unusable to me
[20:03] <ikonia> dasboot: add value to a conversation, ot don't speak
[20:03] <boairc> if this doesn't work
[20:03] <spidy> yo
[20:03] <spidy> hows the beta?!
[20:03] <spidy> :)
[20:03] <dasboot> ikonia, blow me you fucking jew. stop acting like a douche bag.
[20:03] <ikonia> !natty | spidy
[20:03] <spidy> heh
[20:04] <spidy> sounds interesting
[20:04] <DingGGu_> ¿ÖÅ±ÇØ¿ä!
[20:04] <spidy> (:
[20:04] <ikonia> !natty | sphenxes
[20:04] <boairc> why isn't 3+ monitor support in linux? i mean this is a shock for me
[20:04] <ikonia> boairc: it is supported, just not with your cards
[20:05] <boairc> ikonia: with what cards is it supported?
[20:05] <Jon--> How can I extract the window role of gnome-terminal from the command-line?
[20:05] <ikonia> boairc: talk to nvidia.com and ask them why their drivers don't support 3d acceleration split across mutliple cards
[20:06] <gonzalo> hello, how can i install firefox 4 in ubuntu? Thank you!
[20:07] <Starminn> !ff4
[20:07] <Memphizzz> how can i remove the "About Gnome" item from the "System" category on the panel?
[20:07] <gonzalo> Thank you! Do I have to remove Firefox 3.6 first?
[20:07] <Navion> matthew_: Did you have to make an xorg.conf file? I don't find one on my system.
[20:08] <lolmatic> can anyone tell me how i get sound in old games which use /dev/dsp (OSS)?
[20:08] <zelrik> hi
[20:08] <phyrrus9> hello
[20:08] <zelrik> I have a question on reading dvds with ubuntu
[20:08] <phyrrus9> zelrik what
[20:09] <zelrik> When I read one of my dvds, the screen is not filling the actual screen
[20:09] <Starminn> gonzalo: Actually, in Firefox, just update it from within Firefox itself
[20:09] <matthew_> Navion, im not sure but according to this guide i think it mine is stored here /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-wacom.conf
[20:09] <phyrrus9> zelrik what application??
[20:09] <matthew_> Navion, not sure though
[20:09] <Memphizzz> how can i remove the "About Gnome" item from the "System" category on the panel?
[20:09] <zelrik> phyrrus9: mplayer and vlc
[20:09] <phyrrus9> did you check to see if it supports your resolution?
[20:09] <ikonia> matthew_: where did I tell you the file was stored
[20:09] <zelrik> I tried poking around with the settings
[20:09] <Navion> matthew_: Thanks... This is a real pain! :(
[20:09] <gonzalo> Starminn: how do I update firefox from there?
[20:10] <addi> hey guys, is there a proper download manager for Ubuntu? Something that supports adding site passwords for sites like Rapidshare for auto download??
[20:10] <phyrrus9> zelrik ... does it not fill the little black space ... or your screen?
[20:10] <howie_chen> hello
[20:10] <matthew_> Navion, i dont think thats it and yes it is
[20:10] <zelrik> phyrrus9: it doesnt fill the screen at all
[20:10] <Jon--> How can I extract the window role of gnome-terminal from the command-line? Perhaps xprop?
[20:11] <Starminn> gonzalo: Is it not in Tools or something?
[20:11] <matthew_> ikonia, /usr/share/X11 ?
[20:11] <phyrrus9> zelrik ... can you show me an image?
[20:11] <zelrik> phyrrus9: there is a fairly large black space all aroudn
[20:11] <ikonia> matthew_: no,
[20:11] <Jon--> How can I extract the window role of gnome-terminal from the command-line? Perhaps xprop?
[20:11] <Navion> matthew_: Those look like def files for input devices.
[20:11] <phyrrus9> zelrik ... check to make sure +zoomout isnt in there somewhere .... maybe it just zommed ... zoom in
[20:11] <Jon--> Sorry I did not mean to double ask.
[20:11] <ikonia> matthew_: /etc/X11 and the file is called xorg.conf - write it down, I won't tell you it again
[20:12] <jed_> hi there everyone
[20:12] <gonzalo> Starminn: Sadly, no. In "Edit-> Preferences" there is an update tab but t only says Addons and Search Engines, not Firefox
[20:12] <ge0rg3__> hello ubuntu ppl
[20:12] <Navion> ikonia: It's not there man!
[20:12] <ikonia> Navion: you have to make it
[20:13] <Navion> ikonia: and the magic incatation is...
[20:13] <matthew_> ikonia, k i had it wrote down but i forgot to save and i typed something in the terminall that for some reason forced me to log out
[20:13] <Starminn> gonzalo: In the Ubuntu Software Center, when you search Firefox, all the way at the bottom what version does it say it is?
[20:13] <Navion> incantation that is.
[20:13] <ge0rg3__> in tinychat i managed to make my webcam work, but not the microphone
[20:13] <zelrik> phyrrus9: i cant zoom in, ok let me upload the file
[20:13] <ikonia> Navion: you open a text editor and type the options you want into it
[20:13] <ge0rg3__> any advice? n.n
[20:13] <ge0rg3__> my pc is HP-Mini 210
[20:14] <gonzalo> Starminn: it says 3.6.16+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[20:15] <noisewaterphd> ikonia: photorec seems to be taking care of it no problem
[20:15] <Starminn> gonzalo: Okay. So just add the ppa and it will likely auto-update.
[20:16] <Starminn> gonzalo: That's what it did for me IIRC. I threw the ppa in and it replaced old Firefox.
[20:16] <gonzalo> Starminn: ok, I'll try now... thanks!
[20:16] <ssfdre38> what would be a reason why an apache2 mod cant be loaded when its in the mods-available folder
[20:16] <Jon--> How can I extract the window role of gnome-terminal from the command-line? Perhaps xprop?
[20:17] <Starminn> ssfdre38: Have yout ried in #httpd? (also #apache -- same one)
[20:17] <ssfdre38> im in there now asking
[20:18] <Heliodor> Im stuck in trying to configue a samba-share, i can browse the file-share but it does not ask for a login, so i cannot write
[20:18] <esco> hi, im using 11.04 alpha 3 and i want to upgrade to the beta 1, can i do this through the terminal, or do i need to download an iso and install it that way?
[20:19] <Logan_> !natty | esco
[20:19] <esco> thanks Logan_
[20:19] <Logan_> esco: You're welcome.
[20:19] <matthew_> ikonia,  x- configure wont work i cant figure out how to create it
[20:19] <Number_6> @esco, in terminal type sudo update-manager -d
[20:21] <tv_> ikonia; i dont have a x.org.conf file that i can find.  i do have etc/x11/efault-display-manager
[20:21] <Jon--> How can I extract the window role of gnome-terminal from the command-line? Perhaps xprop?
[20:22] <iceroot> Jon--: what is a window role?
[20:22] <gonzalo> Starminn: It worked! Thanks a lot!
[20:23] <matthew_> how do i create a xorg.conf so i can fore my tv outs screen resolution
[20:23] <Jon--> iceroot, man gnome-terminal.   gnome-terminal --role somerole
[20:23] <Jon--> I need to uniquely identify a specific terminal
[20:23] <ikonia> tv_: the file is called xrg.conf for the LAST time, and for the last time you have to MAKE ONE
[20:24] <SnowyCloud> # Problematic frame:
[20:24] <SnowyCloud> # C  [libc.so.6+0x75fb6]
[20:24] <Jon--> A friend suggested that I append title changes to existing title and have a unique string I can use with wmctrl. That may work.
[20:24] <iceroot> Jon--: the manual doesnt tell me what a window role is, just how to set it
[20:24] <SnowyCloud> HELP!
[20:24] <addi> any proper download manager for Ubuntu?
[20:24] <Jon--> iceroot, It doesn't do anything. It's supposed to be used as a property you can make unique I guess.
[20:24] <ikonia> SnowyCloud: not really helpful to show "HELP!"
[20:24] <SnowyCloud> # Problematic frame:
[20:24] <SnowyCloud> # C  [libc.so.6+0x75fb6]
[20:24] <Jon--> to identify specific instances by the role
[20:24] <SnowyCloud> any better?
[20:24] <Starminn> gonzalo: Awesome!
[20:24] <iceroot> Jon--: hm, for that you use the pid
[20:25] <ikonia> SnowyCloud: that means totally nothing,
[20:25] <Jon--> I could but then
[20:25] <ikonia> SnowyCloud: what's the problem, what are you trying to do, what's the error, what version of ubuntu
[20:25] <Andrew131> cd /join #symfony
[20:25] <Jon--> how do I uniquely identify one instance of gnome-terminal over another?
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> #
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb75f6fb6, pid=2108, tid=3003087728
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> #
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> # JRE version: 6.0_24-b07
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (19.1-b02 mixed mode, sharing linux-x86 )
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> # Problematic frame:
[20:25] <FloodBot3> SnowyCloud: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> # C  [libc.so.6+0x75fb6]
[20:25] <Jon--> I want a script that says "move my scratchpad to my current workspace, or if none exist, create it. Ignore other terminals."
[20:25] <ikonia> SnowyCloud: you've just ignored what I've said and pasted even more nonsense
[20:25] <ikonia> SnowyCloud: read what I'm asking you, and respond to the question
[20:26] <SnowyCloud> Minecraft - Java - Not Working.
[20:26] <SnowyCloud> libc error
[20:27] <matthew_> Navion, are u getting it cause i still cant figure out how to force me resolution or even find xorg.conf
[20:27] <Jon--> I want a script that says "move my scratchpad to my current workspace, or if none exist, create it. Ignore other terminals." This means I have to uniquely identify different instances of gnome-terminal. Ideas?
[20:28] <uberushaximus_> disco
[20:28] <ikonia> matthew_: the last time, you have to MAKE an xorg.conf
[20:28] <SnowyCloud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/592283/
[20:28] <ikonia> Jon--: please stop repeating the same question over and over, have you tried in ##bash ?
[20:28] <matthew_> ikonia, i know i have been trying to but i cant figure it out
[20:29] <Jon--> ikonia, bash gets mad at you when you ask off topic questions
[20:29] <ikonia> Jon--: asking how to script in bash is not offtopic
[20:29] <Navion> matthew_: The short answer is that xorg.conf doesn't exist. Use to be that it was required, now Xorg tries to auto configure but when it fails to figure it out it has only some ver restrictive defaults. You have to create an xorg.conf file by hand with all the entries you need with a text editor and save it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[20:29] <Jon--> ikonia, tell them that, I almost got banned :P
[20:29] <Navion> matthew_: I'm looking for a suitable template now.
[20:30] <ikonia> Jon--: constantly asking the same question in here isn't going to get you far
[20:30] <matthew_> Navion, same
[20:30] <ikonia> Navion: you can generate a base file with xorg --configure (or -configure - I can't remember)
[20:31] <matthew_> Navion, i figured that out its the dang temple thats driving me nuts
[20:31] <Navion> ikonia: Thanks, I'll try that. It looks like I only really have to define the monitor resolutions.
[20:31] <matthew_> Navion, if you find one that works pass it along ill do the same please
[20:32] <Tigerplug292> hi, after I run nvidia-xconfig to generate a config and reboot... xserver doesn't start
[20:32] <Tigerplug292> :-(
[20:32] <Navion> matthew_: Will do.
[20:32] <Tigerplug292> untill I revert to the original xorg.conf - any suggestions?
[20:32] <Tavor> Anyone use Blender 3D? I have an issue of using hotkeys that require the Alt since using Alt and dragging cursor drags the window...
[20:33] <gsp2009> Tavor: http://www.blender.org/community/chat/
[20:33] <Tavor> Ok, thanks
[20:33] <gsp2009> np
[20:33] <ssfdre38> where are yhe error-logs at?
[20:34] <Kawohi> Hey guys, i'm new to ubuntu. why in terminal does it repeat computer name twice? name@name:~$
[20:34] <ikonia> Kawohi: username@hostname
[20:34] <piero> How much time canonical will provide security updates to maverick?
[20:34] <Starminn> !eol
[20:34] <Starminn> piero: First link
[20:34] <Kawohi> Oh alright
[20:35] <piero> thanks Starminn
[20:37] <matthew_> Navion, i dont think they thought of this happening when they removed it
[20:37] <piero> ual! Looks like there's someone using dapper yet! At least, the updates for server edition will keep until jun2011!
[20:37] <Navion> matthew_: Maybe but it's pretty common for new hardware to come out and not be in the search for auto configure.
[20:38] <matthew_> Navion, yeh
[20:38] <Navion> matthew_: Yea?
[20:38] <matthew_> Navion, your right
[20:38] <Navion> Where did you find the executable xorg?
[20:39] <Jon--> I want a script that says "move my scratchpad to my current workspace, or if none exist, create it. Ignore other terminals." This means I have to uniquely identify different instances of gnome-terminal. Ideas?
[20:39] <Navion> matthew_: Where did you find the executable xorg?
[20:39] <doc-donkey> hey!
[20:39] <matthew_> Navion, i think i lost the site
[20:39] <pablo_> hi, how can i change the bash prompt, and it shows only the name of the current directory, not the full path (like fedora)?
[20:40] <smw> Jon--, why do you need to identify instances of gnome-terminal?
[20:40] <doc-donkey> where should i ask random questions not involving ubuntu ?
[20:40] <smw> doc-donkey, if they are semi on topic, you can ask here
[20:40] <Jon--> I want one that I move around to different workspaces, while others (ie running irssi, whatever) don't respond to that.
[20:40] <Starminn> !ot | doc-donkey
[20:40] <Guest5612> anyone using the beta
[20:40] <Jon--> and stay on some fixed workspace, whatever
[20:41] <Starminn> !natty | Guest5612
[20:41] <Starminn> Jon--: you want it to move to the workpsace you're on, no matter which one?
[20:41] <doc-donkey> rhanks smw
[20:41] <Guest5612> I have a question about it
[20:41] <doc-donkey> ill go in the offtopic channel
[20:41] <Starminn> Guest5612: So ask it in #ubuntu+1
[20:41] <patrik> How do i acess the network manager in openbox?
[20:42] <smw> pablo_, you need to change the PS1 env variable
[20:42] <smw> pablo_, I do not know how to do it specifically, but you can google it.
[20:42] <smw> pablo_, you can find how ubuntu does it in ~/.bashrc
[20:42] <pablo_> ok thankyou smw
[20:42] <smw> pablo_, if you have a fedora install, you can copy its PS1
[20:42] <Noor_egy> hello : i have propleme that when i open my aplication menu and open the app i want the menu didnt desapear and stilled on front of the programmes so i cant see parts of my programme
[20:43] <mad1> ll
[20:43] <mad1> mad are my initials . im not really mad
[20:43] <matthew_> Navion, according to this site im on we should be able to creat xorg.conf by using x-configure but its not working for me
[20:44] <Macstheyjustsuck> What's the equivalent of the hosts file in windows?
[20:44] <Noor_egy> hello : i have propleme that when i open my aplication menu and open the app i want the menu didnt desapear and stilled on front of the programmes so i cant see parts of my programme
[20:44] <ikonia> Macstheyjustsuck: ##windows is the channel for windows support
[20:44] <Navion> matthew_: it's Xorg -configure (Note the upper case X) but you can't do it with X11 running.
[20:44] <erUSUL_> Macstheyjustsuck: /etc/hosts ( actually windows copied it frm unix )
[20:44] <Macstheyjustsuck> It's not windows
[20:44] <Macstheyjustsuck> ikonia:
[20:44] <Macstheyjustsuck> I was asking for the equivalent
[20:44] <Macstheyjustsuck> erUSUL_: Thanks
[20:44] <FloodBot3> Macstheyjustsuck: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <edbian> Macstheyjustsuck: /etc/hosts
[20:44] <matthew_> Navion, so i guess im going to boot into recovery mode and try it
[20:45] <Navion> matthew_: I think you should be able to "stop" X11 with rebooting.
[20:45] <matthew_> Navion, kk
[20:46] <Noor_egy> رقم %
[20:46] <Noor_egy> hello : i have propleme that when i open my aplication menu and open the app i want the menu didnt desapear and stilled on front of the programmes so i cant see parts of my programme
[20:47] <Jon--> Starminn, yep
[20:47] <Eduard> Hello, could somebody please help me?
[20:47] <edbian> !ask Eduard
[20:47] <edbian> !ask | Eduard
[20:47] <Eduard> I can no longer access my desktop area in Ubuntu 10.10
[20:47] <matthew_> Navion, im trying to stop it but its saying its a unknow job
[20:47] <cfedde> 4
[20:48] <Number_6> !natty
[20:48] <mad1> So with bunt 10.10   HP printers are pref. printer? true/false
[20:48] <Eduard> I mean, wallpaper shows up, but i cannot access my desktop with mouse clicking, it does not work
[20:48] <Eduard> any ideas?
[20:48] <edbian> Eduard: What do you mean you can't access it
[20:48] <edbian> Eduard: What do you mean you can't access it?
[20:48] <edbian> Eduard: So the mouse works but nothing is clickable?  What if your press alt + F2
[20:49] <Eduard> edbian: run application menu shows up
[20:49] <edbian> Eduard: and it works?
[20:49] <Eduard> edbian: yes
[20:50] <edbian> Eduard: Can you click on things in an application that you've launch.  e.g. firefox ?
[20:50] <Eduard> edbian: gnome panels, application launching - everything works, except for mouse clicking in desktop area
[20:50] <Eduard> sec
[20:50] <edbian> Eduard: Do you have icons on the desktop?
[20:50] <pylix> the Ubuntu article's recommended option never works for me it always outputs some error. trying to revover ubuntu after windows install
[20:50] <matthew_> Navion, im going into recovery mode ill be back when im dont
[20:50] <pylix> ##easybcd
[20:50] <matthew_> Navion, *done
[20:50] <Navion> matthew_: BCNU
[20:50] <Navion> That was fast.
[20:51] <matthew_> Navion, ncnu?
[20:51] <Eduard> edbian: in firefox i can only access address bar and tab switching
[20:51] <Navion> Be See'n You.
[20:51] <matthew_> Navion, no im not done
[20:51] <Eduard> the top menu with File and etc entries does not work
[20:51] <matthew_> Navion, ill brb
[20:51] <edbian> Eduard: but not the menus?
[20:51] <edbian> Eduard: open a terminal.  type this:  'nautilus'
[20:51] <edbian> Eduard: without quotes
[20:52] <Eduard> edbian: it opened up nautilus in my users home folder
[20:52] <edbian> Eduard: does clicking now work?
[20:53] <Eduard> edbian: Yes, it does. Even the File, Edit... menu works
[20:54] <edbian> Eduard: So for some reason nautilus is crashing when the system boots and you have to restart it again to get it working.  Nautilus is the file manager but it also controls things like icons on the desktop, menus, etc
[20:54] <edbian> Eduard: Try re-installing nautilus.  sudo apt-get install --reinstall nautilus
[20:54] <rooly> is there any reason for ld to not look in /usr/local/lib by default in a wubi install?
[20:54] <Eduard> edbian: ok
[20:54] <edbian> Eduard: Can you pastebin the output of dmesg for me?
[20:55] <os4> hi all i want to install hydragtk in ubuntu 10.10
[20:55] <Apollonovich> If I want to build/install a newer version of a package than is included in my distro from sources, is there a straightforward way of identifying it as a later/successor of the package in question?
[20:55] <wojtek-irl> hello lads
[20:55] <ikonia> Apollonovich: no
[20:55] <Eduard> edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/592300/
[20:56] <Apollonovich> that sucks. ikonia: could I grab the source package, and then drop in the replacement sources?  or are the build scripts liable to break?
[20:56] <ikonia> Apollonovich: no, you need to know what you're doing, make sure the deps match/compatible, understand how the packages are linked etc etc
[20:57] <Apollonovich> well, assuming the alternative is just building it and clobbering the existing installation, this would seem preferablle.
[20:57] <os4> someone know how to install  hydragtk ??????
[20:57] <Eduard> edbian: nautilus reinstalled, i should reboot my pc now?
[20:57] <ikonia> Apollonovich: what do you want to install
[20:57] <ikonia> os4: what does the install instructions say to do
[20:58] <Jacob_Kay> hey people
[20:58] <edbian> Eduard: I don't see anything about nautilus crashing in dmesg fyi.  Yeah try restarting.  If this doesn't work I have another idea.
[20:58] <os4> hydragtk
[20:58] <Eduard> edbian: ok
[20:58] <ikonia> os4: what does the install instructions say to do
[20:58] <Apollonovich> r-cran-rcpp -- the updated version of the R language c++ interface (the cran apt repositories, which I'm using to keep the rest of my R install up to date, don't include a buidl for this, so whereas the rest of my R install is bleeding edge, I'm stuck on the lucid version of this one)
[20:58] <os4> its a aplication of bruteforce
[20:59] <Superstar> Hello guys. Does anyone know how to set up an ICON 225 USB Mobile Internet Dongle on Ubuntu 10.10? I'm not interested in the internet part, I would just like to receive SMS's (like I could in Windows)
[20:59] <matthew_> Navion, ok imback
[20:59] <ikonia> os4: listen to the question, I'm not asking what it does, or it's name, I'm asking what do the INSTRUCTIONS say on how to install it
[20:59] <Jacob_Kay> I try and install ubuntu, but the installer and gparted don't see my windows install. I believe its to do with my motherboard having a UEFI BIOS and windows installing a GPT partition table instead of MBR
[20:59] <ikonia> Apollonovich: I'm not familier with the application toolset so can't give solid advice, sorry
[21:00] <os4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6Es_VSZYbg
[21:00] <Eduard> edbian: no luck
[21:00] <Jacob_Kay> It shows my hard drive as unallocated
[21:00] <vooze> Hey, i just reinstalled.. i used to have a program where i could just type like "last" and it would suggest last.fm...
[21:00] <vooze> Any ideas what its called?
[21:00] <edbian> Eduard: starting nautilus in a terminal fixes the problem?
[21:00] <DingGGu_> ¿ÖÅ±ÇØ¿ä!
[21:00] <mik_> Semi-noob with file/music management question...
[21:01] <Eduard> edbian: no
[21:01] <edbian> mik_: what is it? :D
[21:01] <Apollonovich> ikonia: that's fair.  Assuming I know what i'm doing in terms of building this particular package, should the debian scripts in the source package be fairly ready to go?  Or what commands to i need to run to tell dpkg to compile/package/install?
[21:01] <edbian> Eduard: Really?  It worked before and now it doesn't work?
[21:01] <pylix> can i use grub legacy with ubuntu 10.10
[21:01] <ikonia> Apollonovich: it all depends on what's changed
[21:01] <ikonia> pylix: yes
[21:01] <pylix> would grub2 cause a conflict
[21:02] <matthew_> Navion, ok i created xorg.cong
[21:02] <ikonia> pylix: with what ?
[21:02] <Eduard> edbian: uhm, when did it work?   Certainly I don't think there is anything that removes duplicate files
[21:03] <Eduard> edbian: no, clean startup. Btw, i created a file in Desktop folder through nautilus, but it does not show up in my desktop on screen
[21:04] <matthew_> Navion, kk
[21:04] <matthew_> Navion, i got no clue where to go from here though
[21:04] <edbian> Eduard: start gconf-editor
[21:04] <Jacob_Kay> I try and install ubuntu, but the installer and gparted don't see my windows installation, it just shows my whole hard drive as unallocated.
[21:04] <pylix> that article rarely resolves my issue
[21:04] <mik_> edbian:  Yeah, that s kind of what I thought...  Havent found anything that can "selectively" remove files...
[21:04] <Eduard> edbian: started
[21:05] <White-Horse> how do i install sun java jre 6 for ubuntu 10.10 64 bit desktop ?
[21:05] <pylix> bb
[21:05] <edbian> mik_: Yeah sorry.  I know things like banshee will search through them all so maybe it doesn't matter?
[21:05] <inaxio> hello! i am having a problem with my hard drive.  my computer will not boot normally - it instead goes to initramfs.   it says it needs to go into recovery mode, but i cannot (as stated before).  i am currently using a live cd trying to fsck it, but it is somehow in use - but it is not mounted at all.  it is somehow in use, but i dont know what the problem is.   i can provide anything nessecary to help get this fixed
[21:05] <edbian> mik_: Is all the ID3 tag info correct?  Maybe there is a program that will sort them by id3 tag info
[21:05] <KindOne> White-Horse - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu.html
[21:05] <matthew_> Navion, especially since i only see one monitory in xorg.conf
[21:05] <Navion> matthew_: I think we only have to change the monitor values to allow better resolution. If you want some feature of the graphics controller then you have define that too. There is an Xorg Wiki page that might help. I aven't gotten that far yet.
[21:06] <KindOne> White-Horse - that might be what you are looking for
[21:06] <edbian> Eduard: / -> apps -> nautilus -> desktop
[21:06] <ech0s7> hi all
[21:06] <White-Horse> thank you KindOne
[21:06] <matthew_> Navion, ok
[21:06] <ech0s7> i have this problem: gdm always turn the LCD to the highest brightness level, only after login to gnome desktop, it tune to the brightness I set, anyone know how to fix ?
[21:06] <Eduard> edbian: done
[21:07] <matthew_> Navion,  the thing is though i see monitory one which im assuming is my laptop screen shouldent there be another one for the tv out
[21:07] <edbian> Eduard: Are those boxes ticked?  (show compute icon, show mounted media, etc etc)
[21:07] <Eduard> edbian: only the check box near volume_visible is ticked
[21:07] <Jacob_Kay> ubuntu installer and gparted don't see any of my partitions, it just shows my hard drive as unallocated. Using a motherboard with UEFI BIOS and I believe the hard drive is using GPT and not MBR, and idea's?
[21:07] <Eduard> *volumes_visible
[21:08] <edbian> Eduard: Do you want the other ones ticked? (tick what you want)
[21:08] <mik_> edbian:  Yeah, thats worth a try...  I suppose this is what you get when you just D/L whatever...  *shrug*
[21:08] <Yexo> I use ubuntu 11.04 with the gnome 3 ppa. After the latest updates I get an error message after login: "Could no update ICEauthority file /home/user/.ICEauthority". I've already checked and the file is owned by myself and rights are 600
[21:08] <edbian> The go to nautilus -> preferences and find 'show desktop' and make sure that is ticked
[21:08] <Navion> matthew_: Not there yet. I think you have to do something with the controler if you need dual screen.
[21:08] <Yexo> any ideas on where the problem could be?
[21:08] <Noor_egy> hello : i have propleme that when i open my aplication menu and open the app i want the menu didnt desapear and stilled on front of the programmes so i cant see parts of my programme
[21:08] <ikonia> Yexo: totally not supported 11.04 is beta, PPA is not ubuntu packaged
[21:08] <Eduard> edbian: ticked computer_icon_visible(nothing happened) :(. What next?
[21:08] <edbian> mik_: Does it really matter if the folders are well organized?  Most music players walk the tree then make their own database of the files and their paths to play them.
[21:08] <matthew_> Navion, kk ill wait for u to get to where i am
[21:09] <Yexo> ikonia: I understand, still, is there another place I could as kfor some help?
[21:09] <edbian> Eduard: preferences folder (in the tree view on the left) is
[21:09] <edbian> Eduard: is 'show desktop' ticked?
[21:09] <ikonia> Yexo: you're using unsupported software and beta software, pretty bad combo to expect people to help you with
[21:09] <Apollonovich> ikonia: if I know that natty has the version of this package I want, can I fetch the source .deb for it, and then build/install that?
[21:09] <ech0s7> i have this problem: gdm always turn the LCD to the highest brightness level, only after login to gnome desktop, it tune to the brightness I set, anyone know how to fix ?
[21:09] <ikonia> Apollonovich: you could try, again the deps will be different so may not resolve
[21:10] <Eduard> edbian: Yes, it is
[21:10] <Apollonovich> right.  is there a way to specify the later distro in apt-get, or am I best off grabbing the source .deb from the web?
[21:10] <edbian> Eduard: ok.  close that.  killall nautilus   and then nautilus in  terminal
[21:11] <liminal> whats the difference between sudo -s & sudo - i
[21:11] <Magnusson_TB> anyone have any ideas why my mouse randomly won't click things? like the kicker menu for example
[21:11] <miles__> do Daemon tools work on linux or is there some alt to it.
[21:11] <Eduard> edbian: omg, it works. How do i make it permanent? :D
[21:11] <russjr08> miles__, are you trying to mount an iso file?
[21:11] <inaxio> i cannot fsck/mount/umount a device from my livecd.  when i boot i only boot into initramfs.  can someone please help me with this
[21:11] <russjr08> you don't need daemon tools for that if you use GNOME
[21:12] <miles__> no it's some sort of lemme check
[21:12] <edbian> Eduard: maybe before it didn't work cause we didn't killall nautilus first...  Restart again.  See what happens
[21:12] <miles__> .BWT.BWI
[21:12] <Eduard> edbian: ok
[21:12] <edbian> Eduard: and don't be so surprised.   Gnome panels are now missing, but icons are present on the desktop
[21:14] <edbian> Eduard: I believe you.  haha,  in a term: nohup gnome-panel &
[21:15] <edbian> Eduard: that starts the panels in such a way that you can still use the terminal and if you close the terminal the panels don't close
[21:15] <edbian> Eduard: clicking works and all that?  (I'm thinking that some settings set somewhere are causing things to crash at boot time.
[21:15] <codex> I have installed php through synaptic manager but I saw it is php 5.3.3 which is not stable version according to official php.net webste and it has critical issues
[21:15] <codex> :S
[21:16] <codex> why synaptic installed this version, should I upgrade to php  5.3.6 and how?
[21:16] <rww> codex: Ubuntu doesn't upgrade to new major releases of software. It backports security and other critical fixes to the existing versions instead, so you should be fine with 5.3.3.
[21:16] <rww> !latest
[21:16] <edbian> codex: I would just wait for 11.04
[21:16] <Eduard> edbian: well, missing gnome panels are quite common after clean ubuntu install, so i already fixed it. Now i will try to restart again and see if everything works
[21:17] <edbian> Eduard: How did you fix it?
[21:17] <Eduard> edbian: http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[21:17] <edbian> Eduard: ok, let's try a restart.  Is this a clean install?
[21:17] <Eduard> edbian: yes, reinstalled today
[21:18] <Eduard> edbian: sec, going for restart now
[21:18] <edbian> alright, see you soon
[21:18] <codex> hm
[21:19] <matthew_> Navion, ok im back hows it coming?
[21:19] <codex> rww, but php 5.3.6 has fixes for critical issues oh older php 5.3 versions
[21:19] <codex> so you say fixes of php 5.3.6 are implemented in synaptic php 5.3.3 version?
[21:19] <G_Val> hi guys
[21:19] <tsnovo> someone know to ubuntu some program iqual guitar pro?
[21:19] <lizard_2k1> good night
[21:19] <edbian> codex: I believe security fixes are yes
[21:19] <miles__> do Daemon tools work on linux or is there some alt to it. I'm trying to  mount some .bwt.bwi files that aparently work with it.
[21:20] <ech0s7> i have this problem: gdm always turn the LCD to the highest brightness level, only after login to gnome desktop, it tune to the brightness I set, anyone know how to fix ?
[21:20] <lizard_2k1> help me please fix broken pakages
[21:20] <rww> codex: correct
[21:20] <Eduard> edbian: so far everything works after restart. Let's hope it stays this way. Thank you for your help :)
[21:21] <edbian> Eduard: sure.  :)
[21:21] <edbian> Eduard: Not sure if it was the restart or what.
[21:21] <miles__> I'm trying to get haloCE to work, but i keep getting errors even when using playonlinux
[21:21] <Eduard> edbian: god knows... it started working after pkill
[21:22] <edbian> Eduard: ok good.
[21:22] <G_Val> i have a partition issue when i use fisk it works great but if try t use gparted or livecd partition  system i can't see them Any idea about ?
[21:22] <Riiick> ola pessoall....................
[21:22] <edbian> lizard_2k1: sudo aptitude update   (what are the errors?)
[21:22] <matthew_> ahh xorg.conf is a pain to work with
[21:22] <Riiick> oi
[21:22] <lizard_2k1> no
[21:22] <Riiick> oliii
[21:22] <lizard_2k1> but i can not reinstall gnome
[21:22] <Riiick> alguem br ??
[21:23] <Riiick> .................................................
[21:23] <Riiick> alguem br ?
[21:23] <rww> !br
[21:23] <matthew_> why hasent some one made a gui for forcing your resolution in xorg.conf?
[21:23] <graingert> matthew_, becuase that's what xrandr is for
[21:23] <Riiick> !br
[21:24] <matthew_> graingert, how do i use that?
[21:24] <th0r> matthew_: good question...why haven't you?
[21:24] <codex> I am still confused you said I am fine with php 5.3.3 but oh official php.net website it says latest version of php - php 5.3.6 have some fies that are security related too
[21:24] <matthew_> th0r, if i knew how i would
[21:24] <gonzalo> hello, how can i remove OpenOffice from my Ubuntu? Thank you!
[21:25] <G_Val>  i have a partition issue when i use fisk it works great but if try to use gparted or livecd partition utility i can't see them Any idea about ?
[21:26] <rww> codex: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/p/php5/php5_5.3.3-1ubuntu9.3/changelog shows the version history of the php5 package in maverick-security. You'll note that the top ones are post-release security updates. These address the "critical issues" the PHP5 site mentions.
[21:27] <edbian> gonzalo: open synaptic. search 'openoffice' remove the packages
[21:27] <codex> rww ok
[21:27] <codex> thanks
[21:27] <rww> codex: basically, Ubuntu takes the fixes that were applied to PHP 5.3.6 to fix issues, backports them to PHP 5.3.3, and releases them in maverick-security. The version of PHP 5.3.3 in maverick-security thus has those issues fixed, just like PHP 5.3.6, but does not have the non-security-related changes that PHP 5.3.6 has.
[21:27] <G_Val> nobody can help me ?
[21:28] <Chris_H> Hi, I have a CD with ubuntu. How do I recognize which version I am having?
[21:28] <codex> rww thanks alot!
[21:29] <edbian> Chris_H: you have ubuntu installed or... ?
[21:29] <hihihi100> how do I install a launchpad package?
[21:29] <Chris_H> edbian: no, I  just have the CD. (downloaded it, not sure when)
[21:29] <Chris_H> and I do not want to install it unless its a new version
[21:29] <Axlin> Chris_H: cat /etc/issue
[21:30] <edbian> Chris_H: you have windows installed?
[21:30] <Chris_H> edbian: yes
[21:30] <Axlin> oh, sorry. i was assuming you had booted off the cd already
[21:30] <ubuntu_> I don't know how to say this but someone is messing with my whole system
[21:30] <koffeehaus> hey, does anyone know a good article about the difference between Debian's APT and Fedora's YUM. I'm applying for Masters in Digital Asset Management, so I need to get this sorted.
[21:30] <edbian> Chris_H: Put it in the drive.  Look around at it using windows.  I'm sure it'll say somewhere
[21:31] <dvp> I try to install again but it's worthless.
[21:31] <Chris_H> edbian: ok
[21:32] <edbian> Chris_H: If you boot it you can look in System -> About and it will say the version
[21:32] <rww> Chris_H: There's a folder beginning with a dot on the \ of the CD that has a file with the version info in it. I forget what it's called though :\
[21:33] <liminal> whats the difference between sudo -s & sudo -i
[21:33] <liminal> in practical terms
[21:33] <Axlin> Chris_H: on the disk, it's in /.disk/info
[21:34] <rww> liminal: sudo -i simulates a login-shell, which means that login-specific files like .profile or .login get read.
[21:34] <rww> liminal: see the section of man sudo that deals with -i.
[21:34] <gatorade> How do you flash the bios on an msi netbook running ubuntu 10.10?
[21:34] <koffeehaus> liminal try sudo -help
[21:34] <MBD123> Sorry if this is a stupid question, but can you boot Ubuntu from a DVD?
[21:34] <koffeehaus> MDB123 - if your pc supports DVS's - then yes
[21:35] <Chris_H> rww, Axlin: Thanks guys, I have found it (I never thought of checking hidden folders)
[21:35] <liminal> rww 'simulates' a login shell...?
[21:35] <liminal> when would i want to use -i
[21:35] <liminal> over -s
[21:35] <edbian> MBD123: sure
[21:35] <MBD123> Thanks, just checking
[21:35] <Kurdistan> hey guys do any body know if maverick support intel graphic card (integrated) pc to connect tv?
[21:35] <koffeehaus> DVD's, not DVS's, naturally
[21:36] <hihihi100> i need to update gnome-user-docs_2.91.90+git20110306ubuntu1, help please
[21:36] <rww> liminal: If you don't know what "simulate a login shell" means, you probably wouldn't want to use -i over -s
[21:36] <Kurdistan> I want to install maverick on friends laptop. so I dont know exactly name. but it is about 4 years old laptop.
[21:37] <edbian> Kurdistan: boot a live CD and find out for sure
[21:37] <koffeehaus> Kurdistan - launch it in LiveCD and see if everything works
[21:37] <Kurdistan> koffeehaus my friend did only have wifi connection
[21:37] <itilious> has anyone here been able to successully add/edit route settings to allow VPN resources to ACTUALLY be useable?
[21:37] <liminal> rww :) i know what a shell is.. and i know what login means.. i don't know what you mean by simulation
[21:38] <Kurdistan> so I couldnt install any restricted drivers.
[21:38] <koffeehaus> Kurdistan - usually wifi is supported
[21:38] <Sia-> Kurdistan Tikaye 10.04 dagre
[21:38] <koffeehaus> Kurdistan - you have broadcom?
[21:38] <jstoone> Hi guys, I just tried to install 11.04 on my USB and it went good untill it failed.. and now it's kind of bricked.. I can see it in the disk utility and stuff but i can't mount it, or do anything. Any suggestions?
[21:39] <Kurdistan> koffeehaus, it is my friends laptop and I am not there right now.
[21:39] <tsnovo> someone know to ubuntu some program iqual guitar pro?
[21:39] <Sia-> Kurdistan  Ok let me know, what kine of laptop model?
[21:39] <gartral> jstoone: format the udb stick and try again
[21:39] <smriti> hey guys
[21:39] <Sia-> hi
[21:39] <tsnovo> someone know some program iqual guitar pro to ubuntu ?
[21:39] <smriti> I have a problem with my microphone
[21:39] <smriti> ubuntu cant detect it
[21:39] <Kurdistan> Sia-, it is hp.
[21:39] <smriti> what do i do to find it ?
[21:39] <liminal> rww when would you use -s instead of using -i
[21:40] <Kurdistan> more info I can not get now
[21:40] <soreau> !info ardour | tsnovo:
[21:40] <jstoone> gartral, i can't do anything it says "No medium found"..
[21:40] <Sia-> Kurdistan Sorani yan Badini bninusin?
[21:40] <nplQED> Hello. I'm trying to install but on the "Who Are You?" part I can't seem to get the Forward button to be available. Any idea what I need to do?
[21:40] <gartral> jstoone: in Disk Utility?
[21:40] <koffeehaus> Kurdistan - well, you need to check what kind of wifi drivers do you have. I forgot what is the command for it - you have to ask sm1 else. But if it is Broadcom go to this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/
[21:40] <smriti> guys how do i find out what microphone driver do i need ?
[21:41] <matthew_> i am getting anoyed i see my computer on my tv its just that little bit of the screen that i cant see on my tv
[21:41] <jstoone> gartral: yep
[21:41] <gartral> jstoone: is this a sandisk Cruzer?
[21:41] <jstoone> gartral: no, it's a takeMS USB
[21:41] <Kurdistan> Sia-, is kurmanci (bahdini) kisa dikim.
[21:42] <koffeehaus> kurdistan: the easiest way to do this is to get a one time cabled connection and install everything. Follow the instruction son the "Installing STA drivers" paragraph
[21:42] <gartral> jstoone: OK, install both gparted and testdisk.. I have a trick up my sleeve
[21:42] <Sia-> Kurdistan ok my kurmanci isn't so good, did you ever tried before to use kurdish linux forums?
[21:42] <addi> Hey guys, trying to run an exe in Wine, but get the error that it is not marked as an executable. what should be done? (Linux noob here) :(
[21:42] <jstoone> gartral: sure, give me one sex
[21:42] <Kurdistan> koffeehaus, the wifi is not any problem. I can one day install at my place. I want to know if intel have closed drivers in ubuntu.
[21:42] <jstoone> gartral: sec i mean ofc.
[21:43] <Kurdistan> like in nvidia I can twin-view to connect my laptop to tv
[21:43] <koffeehaus> Kurdistan - they might, but they can be easily enabled
[21:43] <matthew_> Navion, did u ever get it?
[21:43] <Kurdistan> Sia-, I only know one kaka.
[21:44] <eamon> Intel have shitty shitty bum bum linux drivers
[21:44] <Navion> matthew_: NO, trying a different approach. <sigh>
[21:44] <jstoone> gartral: done, tell me something good ;)
[21:44] <rww> eamon: That's not appropriate for this channel.
[21:44] <koffeehaus> Kurdistan - in fact I find it that Intel PC's are generally easier to configure than AMD's
[21:44] <ikonia> eamon: control the langauge
[21:44] <eamon> ikonia: poop
[21:44] <matthew_> Navion, same i found a few applets that im trying out
[21:44] <DingGGu_> ¿ÖÅ±ÇØ¿ä!
[21:44] <gartral> jstoone: pull the USB stick, open gparted and plug the stick back in
[21:45] <tommis> well this is a nice channel
[21:45] <gartral> DingGGu_: what on earth language is that?
[21:45] <DingGGu_> È£Ãâ ÇÏ·Á¸é '!¾ÆÀÌÀ¯'¸¦ ÀÔ·Â ÇØÁÖ¼¼¿ä.
[21:45] <nplQED> Anyone know how to get past the "Who Are You?" part of the install? I have the whole thing filled out but it won't let me continue.
[21:45] <Kurdistan> koffeehaus, okey next time I will try to take my intel cable so I can fined out if it is any closed driver for intel in ubuntu.
[21:45] <nplQED> I figure there must be some condition that I'm missing.
[21:45] <Kurdistan> laptop is 4 years old so.
[21:45] <matthew_> Navion, its just frustrating cause i see my desktop on my tv it just cuts off the edges
[21:45] <jstoone> gartral: is gparted a GUI app?
[21:45] <gartral> jstoone: yep
[21:46] <Kurdistan> koffeehaus, the funny thing the compiz effect works out of the box.
[21:46] <Navion> matthew_: Open Solaris worked on this but only because it made the wrong asumption about what the hardware is.
[21:46] <jstoone> gartral: wierd.. i tried "gparted &" and it won't load..
[21:46] <koffeehaus> nplQED - can't say for UBUNTU, but I've heard there are linuxMint editions where you can install the system without making a user entry.
[21:46] <e01> is it possible to install the default netbook edition homescreen to 11.04
[21:47] <e01> the homescreen* from the 10.04
[21:47] <gartral> jstoone: try 'screen gparted' the hit ctrl+a the tap d
[21:47] <gartral> then*
[21:47] <jstoone> gartral: It's loaded now, had to run as root
[21:47] <gartral> jstoone: ohh yea, i forget too mention that
[21:47] <nplQED> I don't really care if I have to make a user entry but it seems weird that no matter what I do, the Forward button remains grayed out.
[21:48] <meLon> None of you guys have League of Legend working under wine yet, do you ?
[21:48] <jstoone> gartral: now i opend it, and when it was loaded i plugged in the usb, next?
[21:49] <koffeehaus> nplQED - okay, a user entry has to to be in minuscule. maybe that's why? were you trying to type it with a cap?
[21:49] <gartral> jstoone: 2 sec, im installing it myself.. i've forgotten the interface
[21:49] <nplQED> koffehaus: that was it. thanks!
[21:49] <jstoone> gartral: sure take your time, thanks for helping btw. it's great!
[21:50] <gartral> jstoone: up in the right hand corner there's a drop-down menu with all your drives in it... check too see if your flashdrive is there
[21:50] <gartral> jstoone: np, i know how flashdrive breakage is annoying
[21:50] <randomness> hello. how can i rearrange icons icons in Unity launcher bar? been trying to drag and click it every way possible and can't just figure it out, driving me crazy :/
[21:51] <koffeehaus> nplQED- no probs mate
[21:51] <cavalier_prime> randomness, drag em to the right and you can rearrange
[21:51] <matthew_> Navion, on the program im using i set my monitors so the should look fine but when i apply it my tv stops working
[21:51] <jstoone> gartral: nope, no luck.. tried refreshing 1,2,3...4 times nothing ;) only my sda
[21:51] <randomness> ohh
[21:52] <randomness> some sort of 2nd click -> move, option wouldn't hurt
[21:52] <cavalier_prime> yup
[21:52] <Navion> matthew_: Progress... Now you know one more thing that doesn't work.
[21:52] <randomness> impossible to guess that right-draw :p
[21:52] <gartral> jstoone: didn't think it would, but there's still hope, close gparted and in terminal run testdisk as root
[21:52] <matthew_> yeh'
[21:53] <jstoone> gartral: done
[21:54] <jstoone> gartral: it doesn't appear here neather..
[21:54] <gartral> jstoone: hit create when it askes.
[21:54] <FlameTai1> Hey anyone able to help me on here with a sound problem?
[21:55] <matthew_> Navion, are you having any luck?
[21:55] <Navion> matthew_: not yet
[21:55] <gartral> jstoone: ooook.. now where looking at a possibly burnt out controler in the flashdrive, buuut. hang on, there's one more thing i can think of
[21:56] <koffeehaus> FlameTail - for starters go to terminal and type alsamixer to see if your sound is on
[21:56] <jstoone> gartral: uff.. doesn't sound good though, hehe
[21:57] <inaxio> i cannot fsck/mount/umount a device from my livecd.  when i boot i only boot into initramfs.  can someone please help me with this
[21:57] <koffeehaus> inaxio - what are you trying to unmount?
[21:58] <taher> Hello everybody
[21:58] <inaxio> koffeehaus: well im trying to fsck /dev/sda1 (partition containing / on my hard drive).  i cannot umount it since it isnt actually mounted, and i cant fsck it since it says its mounted or in use
[21:58] <gartral> jstoone: hmm.. it seems the program no longer can be grabbed >.<
[21:59] <taher> If I want to set my datezone properly via ssh, how do I do that?
[21:59] <russjr08> taher, try sudo dpkg --reconfigure tzdata
[21:59] <zello> Hi who can help me to configure tomcat6 and javaconnector
[21:59] <koffeehaus> is it a linux partition? if yes - the LiveCd is using the swap area assigned to that partition - unmount from Gparted
[21:59] <kitche> inaxio: mount and paste bet it's mounted
[21:59] <FlameTai1> koffeehaus: Everything is on, a long time ago I installed Linux and there was a problem with it, it took forever to figure it out.
[22:00] <jstoone> gartral: which one are you thinking of?
[22:00] <FlameTai1> koffeehaus: I have a Realtek ALC202 Rev0
[22:00] <taher> unknown option --reconfigure..
[22:00] <inaxio> kitche: http://pastebin.com/H7Meqqv9 output of 'mount' and 'umount /dev/sda1', pretty sure its not mounted
[22:00] <gartral> jstoone: it was a usb probing software...
[22:01] <zello> any help in tomcat configuration?
[22:01] <jstoone> gartral: can we find the source? cause then we can just compile it ourselfes?
[22:01] <gonzalo> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu 10.10 and I cannot right-click with my to. How can I fix this?
[22:01] <gonzalo> touchpad**
[22:02] <jstoone> gonzalo: don't use the mousepad :D no, just joking, I'm sorry for your loss though..
[22:02] <russjr08> taher, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[22:02] <gartral> jstoone: no, the website is gone and they didn't have a sourceforge. ok, well, we'll probe the old fashion way. reinsert the drive and run dmsg|tail. pastebin that output
[22:02] <taher> that worked better =) thanx
[22:03] <gonzalo> jstoone: haha but there's a way to fix it right?
[22:03] <gartral> jstoone: dmesg|tail
[22:03] <inaxio> the main thing i am trying to do here is to fsck /dev/sda1 (and sda6) because quote from dmesg "[    5.320112] EXT4-fs warning (device sda1): ext4_clear_journal_err: Marking fs in need of filesystem check."
[22:03] <Angelic> how to reverse an upgrade
[22:03] <russjr08> taher, no problem :)
[22:03] <jstoone> gonzalo: yea, have you tried to google it?
[22:04] <taher> let's see if that solves my modx problems...
[22:04] <koffeehaus> inaxio -  is it a linux partition? if yes - the LiveCd is using the swap area assigned to that partition - unmount from Gparted
[22:05] <inaxio> koffeehaus: okay, ill try that
[22:05] <jstoone> gartal: what are we looking for in the output?
[22:05] <gartral> inaxio: it's easier than that, run sudo swapoff
[22:06] <koffeehaus> inaxio - the partition itself is not mounted - but since it's an extended one - the swap area is assigned to it. liveCD taps to swap area, thus making the whole partition unusable
[22:07] <taher> russjr08: Are you good with php and modx as well? =)
[22:07] <russjr08> taher,  sorry :(
[22:07] <taher> k, thanx anyway =)
[22:07] <russjr08> np
[22:07] <rhalff> how can I find what provides asoundconf ?
[22:08] <jstoone> gartral: It can see the "takeMS" usb, it is in the output.
[22:08] <gartral> jstoone: pastebin the tail output too paste.ubuntu.com
[22:09] <inaxio> koffeehaus: swap is off, still cannot fsck either of the 2 partitions (same error)
[22:10] <kwtm> rhalff: dpkg -S filename
[22:10] <matthew_> Navion, my tv likes 1280x 720 but my laptop monitor wont let me select it for some reason if i could get my monitor to 1280 x 720 id be set
[22:10] <rhalff> kwtm, thanks man
[22:10] <rhalff> kwtm, nice, nothing provides that.. :)
[22:11] <jstoone> gartral: here you go: "paste.ubuntu.com/592331/"
[22:11] <jstoone> gartral: www.paste.ubuntu.com/592331/ - clickable
[22:12] <rhalff> kwtm, seems that only finds it if the package was allready installed
[22:12] <gartral> jstoone: that is too weird, the device is there.. but not responding..
[22:13] <inaxio> koffeehaus: any ideas?
[22:13] <kwtm> rhalff: Hmm... will check around dpkg man page a bit more.  Another possibility is "google site:ubuntu.org"  and yet another is   "http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=lucid&section=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=asoundconf"
[22:14] <jstoone> gartral. i tried to "mount /dev/sdb ~/dev/usb" but it didn't work.. also I sometime go into "/dev/disk/by.uuid" and mount form there but there is nothing.. :S
[22:15] <koffeehaus> inaxio - do you have the same problem described here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1652397
[22:15] <rhalff> kwtm, ok seems like asoundconf is not available anymore
[22:15] <gartral> jstoone: try /dev/sdb1
[22:16] <kwtm> rhalff: There is a asoundconf-gtk package in lucid.  Not sure about Whatever-Came-After-Lucid
[22:16] <inaxio> koffeehaus: possibly, how can i tell if its trying to automatically mount it?
[22:16] <kwtm> what's the name of the current ubuntu version?  Morbid Mouse?
[22:16] <kwtm> anyway, whatever it is.  I'm using LTS, so adjust the search accordingly for yours.
[22:16] <matthew_> does any one here know how i can force the resolution on my laptop to 1280x720 i been trying for hours now
[22:18] <koffeehaus> inaxio - can you access the partitions naturally? without livecd?
[22:18] <gartral> matthew_: try grandr
[22:18] <inaxio> koffeehaus: uh, what exactly do you mean?  i cannot really do much without the livecd - i go to initramfs when i try to boot
[22:18] <jstoone> gartral: It doesn't exist.. (it isn't in the list but tried anyway)
[22:19] <matthew_> gartral, where do i get it?
[22:20] <gartral> matthew_: apt-get install grandr
[22:20] <jstoone> matthew: remember to run it as superuser "sudo apt-get install" ;)
[22:21] <koffeehaus> inaxio - that's what i meant. yes, the disks are faulty. try going to gparted again. click on the disk and then click check
[22:22] <koffeehaus> inaxio - btw, just went to mine and found out that my ntfs is also faulty. good thing i never use it
[22:22] <vanguard> my clock in the top bar only shows "So, 10. Ap", how can I get the time back?
[22:22] <goose> How can I change the "theme" of natty back to those of older ubuntu/debian distros? I don't like the new "sidebar", I want the old style toolbars on top and bottom
[22:22] <inaxio> koffeehaus: same error when i try to check from there
[22:22] <jstoone> gartral: Is there still something left in you're sleeve? ;)
[22:23] <gartral> jstoone: nope.. that's weird
[22:24] <matthew_> gartral, i installed it and it dident have the option in the drop menu do i typed in in and it dident work
[22:25] <jstoone> gartral: I think I've fried it..
[22:25] <gartral> matthew_: man grandr
[22:25] <koffeehaus> inaxio - sorry mate i have no idea. i think your disks got messed up beyond fsck
[22:26] <goose> anyone? know how to change the appearance to look like it used to, with "Applications / Places / System" on top, and a task bar on bottom?
[22:26] <matthew_> gardar, brb going to log out then back in
[22:26] <gartral> jstoone: the very very last ditch effort, try running sudo fsch /dev/sdb
[22:26] <gartral> jstoone: the very very last ditch effort, try running sudo fsck /dev/sdb
[22:26] <inaxio> koffeehaus; searching on ubuntu forums says "Apparently the ubuntu live cd tries to mount the partition without success, leaving it neither mounted nor accessible for fsck."
[22:26] <Laptopman> Hello, I'm looking to buy a new laptop, but it is my understanding that optimus technology can't be used in linux, so what are my options?
[22:26] <roberto> hola
[22:26] <ikonia> Laptopman: optimus ?
[22:27]  * gardar slaps matthew_
[22:27] <Laptopman> http://www.nvidia.com/object/optimus_technology.html
[22:27] <koffeehaus> inaxio - but you have swaped off, isn't it...
[22:27] <Laptopman> switches graphics card on and off
[22:27] <inaxio> koffeehaus - yes
[22:28] <Laptopman> I understand that you can turn off the graphics cards in the bios, are they any other solutions to this?
[22:28] <Laptopman> I will have a hard time justifinying buying a differnt laptop just to use ubuntu sometimes
[22:29] <gartral> brb
[22:29] <roberto> but your main SO its windows right?
[22:30] <roberto> ....
[22:30] <Laptopman> It would be
[22:30] <inaxio> koffeehaus: does this process "  413 ?        00:00:00 jbd2/sda1-8" have anything to do with it?
[22:30] <roberto> u know wat
[22:30] <syskk> which filesystem is compatible with windows?
[22:31] <syskk> FAT right?
[22:31] <python> yes
[22:31] <python> Fat32
[22:31] <roberto> also ntfs
[22:31] <python> yeap
[22:31] <mysteriousdarren> NTFS
[22:31] <mysteriousdarren> depends on the use
[22:31] <jstoone> gartral: it failed.. the "no medium found" error strickes again... will the view on this problem change if I add in the info that I choose to format the USB as ext4 when I was about to install 11.04?
[22:32] <roberto> but practicaly ntfs its better than the others
[22:32] <Laptopman> I haven't bought my laptop yet, are there any laptops compareable to Asus U31JG-XA1 that are better compable with linux/ubuntu
[22:32] <jeeves_moss> how can I make a script in /etc/init.d/ so that my CS game servers will auto start with the server and I can stop/start/restart them like a service?
[22:32] <python> but if you want linux to read and write from windows ....you must format the windows file system to Fat32 not ntfs
[22:32]  * MTK358 is away: Gone away for now
[22:33] <python> If it is formated to ntfs...linux will only beable to read from it ..not write to it
[22:33] <roberto> laptopman u are thinking alot about that just buy it
[22:34] <inaxio> hey, i am trying to kill a process but it doesnt seem to work (tried 'sudo kill 413')
[22:34] <roberto> so in fat32 we can do both?
[22:34] <matthew_> im back
[22:34] <matthew_> who was helping me?
[22:34] <python> yes
[22:34] <python> Yes can do both in fat32
[22:34] <Cattista> inaxio, kill -9 413
[22:35] <mysteriousdarren> laptopman, if you are that worried about it go look at system76.com or zareason
[22:35] <jstoone> matthew: is it the screen size problem?
[22:35] <koffeehaus> inaxio - i don't know. i think your best bet is to post it on the Ubuntu forums, or Ask Ubuntu. I remember when i was running fedora on my laptop my disks failed on the physical clockwork level, and it wasn't a fault with a soft algorithm. but then again i was spilling tea and wine on it with unprecedented consistency
[22:35] <mysteriousdarren> laptopman, here is one
[22:35] <mysteriousdarren> http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=106
[22:35] <tim167> hi, how do i record mouse activity?
[22:35] <inaxio> cattista: http://pastebin.com/RbgVVSiG
[22:36] <matthew_> jstoone, yeh im trying to get both my  hdmi out and my computer screen on the same resolution so they look right
[22:36] <mysteriousdarren> http://zareason.com/shop/Laptops/
[22:36] <roberto> well but sttill isnt nice cos as u know in fat32 the largest space we can have in a partition its about 30g or something like that
[22:36] <inaxio> koffeehaus: well the thing is this drive is relatively new and the failure is quite sudden! it just went into read only mode at one point then crashed, and ive been unable to boot since
[22:36] <jstoone> python: i haven't read through your conversation, but I thought I would add that my windows partition is formatted in NTFS and I can read/write all I want, plus thne you don't have to bother about the 4.1GB limit (:
[22:36] <tim167> i want to record mouse activity, systemwide, regardless of which program is in focus...how do i do that?
[22:37] <cavalier_prime> inaxio, type kill -9 413
[22:37] <python> Jstoone ....>>>>you can write and write to the file sytem from linux
[22:38] <python> read and write
[22:38] <matthew_> can some one help me with my hdmi out i been trying for hours now and havent gotten any ware i am trying to display my computer screen on my tv but when i do i cant see my hole computer on the tv parts are cut off
[22:38] <inaxio> cavalier_prime: http://pastebin.com/mCfL6YUp
[22:38] <stefg> jeeves_moss: you might want to read man update-rc.d
[22:38] <jstoone> python: oh.. are you talking the other way around? :S rw from windows
[22:39] <jeeves_moss> stefg, ok, thanks.  I'm just trying to automate everything so I don't have to "babsit" this dumb box
[22:39] <python> Yeah ...from linux ...
[22:39] <cavalier_prime> inaxio sudo it
[22:39] <jstoone> matthew_: have you tried to adjust the tv-screen? :P
[22:39] <roberto> ok heres a question
[22:39] <inaxio> cavalier_prime: i did, it was the second command i did.  it produced no output and doesnt seem to have worked.
[22:39] <roberto> which one buntu family distro i should install in my desktop?
[22:40] <roberto> someone
[22:40] <stefg> jeeves_moss: that's what every sysadmin wants to do :-) write your script, put in in /etc/init.d , run update-rc.d ...
[22:40] <matthew_> jstoone, no but i dont think thats the problem cause when i use my tv its fine and how i fixed it on windows it was a software problem but ill look into it now
[22:40] <cavalier_prime> inaxio may take a reboot then
[22:41] <jeeves_moss> stefg, for me, it's trying to get the game servers to actually run correctly as the correct user
[22:41] <jstoone> inaxio, cavalier_prime: guys, just wanted to share this command with you "sudo !!". you know at times when you run a program and then you find out it should have been as superuser? this command steps back and runs the last command as superuser! it's great!
[22:41] <whoever>  I have some ocr pdfs that i am tring to conwvert to ocr jpgs, I have tried imagemagik but it is not a searchable file, any help would be appreciated
[22:42] <milamber> inaxio: i know i am kind of late on the convo, but does this help: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/jbd2-sda1-8-what-exactly-is-this-process-that-keeps-running-every-few-seconds-788810/
[22:42] <stefg> jeeves_moss: so you put  'su username' on top of your script
[22:42] <inaxio> milamber: considering i havent had a solution yet ill check it out
[22:42] <jstoone> jstoone: we have a samsung tv in our livingroom and i had to tell it NOT to resize the screen and do all thouse auto size fanzy stuff, and it all worked out (:
[22:42] <jeeves_moss> stefg, ok, thanks!
[22:42] <gartral> yay now have 2 gb of ram.
[22:43] <jstoone> gartral: grats :D
[22:43] <roberto> im using now ubuntu with a xfce enviroment
[22:43] <jstoone> gartral: it failed.. the "no medium found" error strickes again... will the view on this problem change if I add in the info that I choose to format the USB as ext4 when I was about to install 11.04?
[22:43] <roberto> as i know pragmatily ist the same
[22:43] <lizard_2k1> who know why system ask me install 0.8.2-2-1mint3 instead 0.8.2-2ubuntu21 ?
[22:43] <juboba> how can I configure an azumi m101 (Mobile Broadband)
[22:43] <juboba> ?
[22:44] <fisix> lizard_2k1, learn to english
[22:44] <roberto> 11.04 its stable already?
[22:44] <gartral> jstoone: well, i had 2gb at one point, that chip died, had too deal with 1 gb for a while, and just got a 2gb chip out of a laptop i found in the trash
[22:44] <gartral> jstoone: that shouldn't matter
[22:45] <jstoone> fisix: please watch your tone, read it again, and you know what he means..
[22:45] <gartral> jstoone: what was the brand of that drive again
[22:45] <jstoone> gartral: takeMS
[22:45] <koffeehaus> inaxio - that could be it actually! but i can't help you here. if you decide to post a query on Ask Ubuntu do mention that your partition permissions got screwed up.
[22:45] <matthew_> jstoone, thats not the problem
[22:45] <lizard_2k1> may be exists way fix broken depends?
[22:46] <inaxio> well it sheds insight as to what it is, but would this process (jbd2/sda1-8) be causing the error in fsck saying its in use?
[22:46] <jstoone> matthew_: hmm.. have you tried the "gradr"??
[22:47] <jstoone> matthew_:hmm.. have you tried to play around with "grandr"?
[22:47] <koffeehaus> inaxio - now that you've mentioned the permissions i'm convinced that's the problem
[22:47] <gartral> jstoone: i would contact the takeMS company and ask if they'll honor the warrenty
[22:47] <koffeehaus> inaxio , try re-phrasing your query to "how to fix my partition permissions"
[22:47] <matthew_> jstoone, yeh no results
[22:47] <inaxio> koffeehaus - well is there any way to kill it other than 'kill'/'kill -9'?
[22:48] <gimisa> XChat-GNOME 0.26.1
[22:48] <koffeehaus> inaxio - what is the process called again?
[22:48] <juboba> how can I configure an azumi m101 (Mobile Broadband)??
[22:48] <taher> exit
[22:48] <taher> quit
[22:48] <taher> bah
[22:49] <inaxio> koffeehaus: jbd2/sda1-8
[22:49] <inaxio> koffeehaus: having it implies its in use by that process so i think killing the process would let me fsck it, but i dunno
[22:50] <matthew_> jstoone, does grandr need sudo permissions?
[22:50] <jstoone> gartral: yea.. you're probably right.. well I'll try to call tomorrow.. but speaking of the RAM, is it one of your own laptops that you've previously thrown out, or a random coencidence of the neighboar throwing it out ;)
[22:50] <jstoone> matthew_:Nopes (:
[22:51] <matthew_> jstoone, then i dont no what to do
[22:51] <milamber> inaxio: it is an ext4 process. kill -9 is killing it, but the file system is restarting it
[22:51] <koffeehaus> inaxio - yes,  its a "process associated with journaling on the ext4 filesystem"
[22:51] <koffeehaus> hmmmm
[22:51] <koffeehaus> lesseee
[22:51] <milamber> !fsck
[22:53] <fisix> jstoone, i rest my case
[22:53] <matthew_> jstoone, im just about ready to give up been trying for idk how long now
[22:54] <inaxio> milamber - well why is this process restarting - the device isnt mounted so why would it need it?
[22:54] <jstoone> matthew_:One last thing.. found this article.. http://www.ypass.net/blog/2009/07/dvi-to-hdmi-overscan-screen-edge-cutoff-on-an-hdtv/ - read it though and play around with it (:
[22:54] <koffeehaus> inaxio - http://sanjayak71.blogspot.com/2010/10/recovering-unmountable-partition-from.html
[22:55] <matthew_> jstoone, thanks ill look it over and see how it ends
[22:55] <GatunoRox> hello
[22:55] <juboba> how can I configure an azumi m101 (Mobile Broadband)??
[22:55] <GatunoRox> Can I apply system updates to Live USB linux with persistence?
[22:55] <juboba> anyone?
[22:57] <matthew_> jstoone, this looks promising thanks
[22:57] <milamber> inaxio: what version of ubuntu?
[22:57] <fisix> lizard_2k1, ce qui est le problemme?
[22:57] <inaxio> milamber: 10.10
[22:57] <milamber> GatunoRox: no
[22:57] <inaxio> koffeehaus: well i unfortunately dont have anything but this livecd to work with
[22:57] <GatunoRox> Then what should I do to get the system up to date?
[22:58] <stefg> juboba: apparently google has no info on that. i suspect it's a re-branded device (maybe a Huawei). plug it in and ask lsusb for the device id... then google that
[22:58] <jstoone> fisix: It's all right, just wanted to point it out, 'cause no one likes to get told that they suck at writing english, I would rather like to get told "I didn't understand you're question, please refrace it" or something like that ;) - have a good one
[22:58] <lizard_2k1> fisix: sorry, an english please
[22:58] <fisix> LOL
[22:58] <koffeehaus> inaxio - okay, if can't fully unmount it - can you fully mount it then?
[22:58] <milamber> bug 607560
[22:59] <jstoone> matthew_: Any time bud, mail me on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>when and tell me how it goes. I'm going to bed now..
[22:59] <Bite> My Xubuntu isn't picking up on my other HDD. Is there a quick terminal command that will fix this?
[22:59] <inaxio> koffeehaus: the error is ususally "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[22:59] <matthew_> jstoone, will do
[23:00] <stefg> Bite: read dmesg and sudo fdisk -l
[23:00] <jstoone> Bite: have you tried to mount it manually?
[23:00] <fisix> lizard_2k1, just out of curiosity. what language DO you speak? the whois says you're from paris
[23:00] <Bite> jstoone: How? That's what i want to do.
[23:00] <milamber> inaxio: what is the ultimate issue/goal? i believe you started w/ how to kill a process?
[23:00] <jstoone> fisix: hahaha, good one though ;)
[23:00] <lizard_2k1> fisix: russian, english
[23:01] <fisix> lizard_2k1, ah, can't help you there then lol
[23:01] <jstoone> bite: do you know what it is called?
[23:01] <fisix> jstoone, :D
[23:01] <dale_> say im having a problem recognizing a USB on my desktop, the laptop I have recognizes it almost instantly, but the desktop doesn't show anything
[23:01] <inaxio> milamber: well i need to fsck this partition because i cannot boot with it, and i cannot fsck it because it seems to be in use (although not mounted!)
[23:01] <Bite> jstoone: It's just the local disk on my WinXP....
[23:02] <Bite> jstoone: and last time it was mounted it was a random sequence of numbers.
[23:02] <pmo> dale_, lsusb.. check out release of kernel and more..
[23:02] <inaxio> milamber: also regarding this line from dmesg "[    5.320112] EXT4-fs warning (device sda1): ext4_clear_journal_err: Marking fs in need of filesystem check."
[23:02] <superjoe> hey, is firefox 4 included in natty?
[23:02] <koffeehaus> inaxio - do you keep your stuff on a different partition? the thing is - if it gets really f**ked up you can reinstall it
[23:02] <sgerbino> is there a way to restart unity in maverick 10.10, after coming out of a fullscreen game the graphics get messed up
[23:03] <milamber> inaxio: can you pastebin the output of the command: df
[23:03] <jstoone> bite: hehehe.. well have you tried to look in the "places" and see if it is there? ex. my window partition is called "220 GB filesystem"
[23:03] <inaxio> koffeehaus: i have /dev/sda1 which is the system and sda6 which is my /home, but sda6 seems to have the same problem sadly
[23:03] <jstoone> superjoe: yes it is 8:
[23:03] <superjoe> word!
[23:03] <Bite> Jstoone; Mine is typicallly called "160 gb filesystem," but it's not there.
[23:03] <superjoe> april 28, looking forward to it
[23:03] <jstoone> superjoe: one of the best releases to date.
[23:03] <inaxio> milamber: here http://pastebin.com/EFPThnTR
[23:04] <superjoe> I think I may have to revert to gnome though. I'll give unity a shot first
[23:04] <stefg> Bite: does "dmesg | grep sda" tell you something?
[23:04] <python> gnome is the best in my mind
[23:04] <koffeehaus> inaxio - out of curiosity - what is your sda6 format?
[23:04] <Bite> stefg: Nope.
[23:04] <inaxio> koffeehaus: also ext4
[23:04] <Riaku> pmo i PMed you
[23:04] <superjoe> I especially like  alt+space m, shift arrow keys
[23:05] <jstoone> bite: ok have you tried to launch the "Disk Utility" in System - administration - Disk Utility
[23:05] <Codex84> sup sup
[23:05] <Codex84> ppls
[23:05] <stefg> Bite: does sudo fdisk -l see the disk?
[23:05] <Codex84> yea
[23:05] <jstoone> superjoe: what editor are you useing when you program bash, python or like? (vim?)
[23:06] <fisix> is the whois on irc accurate?
[23:06] <ftjla> can some one give me a url that describes how to make a shortcut script that will open up multiple applications at once.  Skype, xchat (specific rooms), firefox (with four sites) and etc
[23:06] <superjoe> jstoone, I use qtcreator for C++, other than that, vim
[23:06] <Codex84> is use for partition
[23:06] <Bite> stefg: Yes. jstoone, one sec, it's a tad hidden in the lighter xubuntu.
[23:06] <jstoone> whois fisix
[23:06] <jstoone> go damnit.
[23:06] <Sup> Does anyone know if there is a: bashrc or bash_profile alternative in the Windows envirument?
[23:06] <fisix> jstoone, are you from irvine/USA?
[23:07] <milamber> inaxio: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=85230
[23:07] <jstoone> fisix: haha no not at all! Have to go a little north ;)
[23:07] <milamber> inaxio: that is googlefu, under the update section there is a way to disable the journaling
[23:07] <CrazyGir> how do you get the dependency tree for a package? I am looking at the ubuntu-vm-builder package and have _no_ idea why postfix is needed.. I'd like to see who included this and how to remove it
[23:08] <fisix> jstoone, oh so i guess the whois is a bunch of balls. i'm in canada too..
[23:08] <Sup> Does anyone know if there is a: bashrc or bash_profile alternative in the Windows envirument?
[23:08] <jstoone> superjoe: if you feel comfortable with vim bindings than you should REALLY check out the "vimperator" plugin for firefox :D
[23:08] <milamber> CrazyGir: apt-cache policy <packagename>    may be what you are looking for?
[23:08]  * CrazyGir tests
[23:08] <jstoone> fisix: haha good expression (:
[23:09] <koffeehaus> inaxio - okay this is REALLY far fetched - but i've googled jbd2 sda1-8 and the only distro mentioned seems to be ubuntu. what if you burn a non- Debian liveCD and see what happens then when you boot.
[23:09] <Bite> jstoone: it shos up in disk util, but not /media
[23:09] <Bite> Mounted, got it, thanks.
[23:09] <stefg> CrazyGir: i think you can safely apt-get autoremove postfix without loosing vm-builder... it's the same with mdadm: you install it and get postfix and bsd-mailx as dependency, but if yyou purge them, mdadm stays there
[23:09] <inaxio> koffeehaus: i will see about that soon; id really prefer not to burn another cd unless its absolutely nessecary
[23:09] <jstoone> bite: have you tried to do the "mount" command in disk utillity ?
[23:09] <jstoone> bite: ah, good good (:
[23:10] <Bite> Thanks for the help, guys.
[23:10] <CrazyGir> stefg: so mdadm pulls in postfix?
[23:10] <CrazyGir> stefg: what is the 'correct' way to avoid postfix to begin with?
[23:10] <inaxio> milamber: i tried but...  http://pastebin.com/Ds9F6qij