[17:18] <Ax-Ax>  -h              higher quality, but a little slower.  Recommended.
[17:18] <Artimus> Ax-Ax: Fair enough.
[17:19] <Ax-Ax> but how do i get the output of the grep as infile?
[17:20] <nicolas> salut
[17:20] <nicolas> vous pouvez m aider pour counter strike
[17:21] <olie> i cant update
[17:21] <BluesKaj> tehbatz: do you have a pci soundcard installed as well as an onboard soundcard ?
[17:21] <tehbatz> no, just an onboard
[17:21] <Ax-Ax>  ls -lR |grep .flac |xargs |lame?
[17:22] <Ax-Ax> what then?
[17:22] <Ax-Ax> what does xarg do?
[17:22] <Ax-Ax> xargs
[17:22] <llutz> Ax-Ax: like" find /mp3 -name '*.flac' -exec lame -b 192 -h {} ~/ftp/asd/`basename {} flac`mp3  \;
[17:23] <nicolas> qui parle francais
[17:23] <Ax-Ax> mp3 = folder?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> tehbatz:  are reconfigging alsa  soundcard driver each time the sound fails ?
[17:23] <heinkel_111> !fr > nicolas
[17:23] <llutz> Ax-Ax: yes, starting path for find
[17:23] <Ax-Ax> good:)
[17:23] <olie> ive just installed gutsy and when i updaate it says something about a commit break
[17:23] <heinkel_111> !fr
[17:23] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:23] <tehbatz> no, I have not re-configured alsa ever
[17:24] <BluesKaj> tehbatz:  are you reinstalling the soundcard driver ?
[17:24] <tehbatz> no, been the same since HD install of ubuntu
[17:24] <spiroo> Does somebody have experience with Eclipse. It says: Eclipse does not have support for the integrated support and does not start. How do I solve that?
[17:25] <BluesKaj> ok tehbatz in the konsole : cat /proc/asound/cards
[17:25] <Ax-Ax> :(
[17:26] <olie> ive just installed gutsy and when i updaate it says something about a commit break can someone please help me :)
[17:26] <now3d> is there a good sound recorder i can use from kubuntu?
[17:26] <Ax-Ax> if i do "find /mp3 -name '*.flac' -exec lame -b 192 -h {} ~/ftp/asd/`basename {} flac`mp3  \;" , will it place all the files in the same folder?
[17:26] <llutz> Ax-Ax: no into ~/ftp/asd/
[17:26] <BluesKaj> tehbatz: then,  asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[17:27] <Ax-Ax> llutz, that was what i meant
[17:27] <llutz> Ax-Ax: sry read it wrong
[17:27] <spiroo> anyone know about my Eclipse problem?
[17:28] <Ax-Ax> i realized it would be easier if it did put them in the folder they were in from the beginning, how to do that? :(
[17:29] <Ax-Ax> llutz, what that what you thought i meant?
[17:29] <llutz> Ax-Ax: try " find /mp3 -name '*.flac' -exec lame -b 192 -h {}  \; " <- no output specified
[17:29] <Ax-Ax> oh
[17:29] <maxym> !fr
[17:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:30] <BluesKaj> BBL...
[17:31] <Ax-Ax> llutz: small question, will the flacs still be there?
[17:31] <llutz> Ax-Ax: sure
[17:31] <Ax-Ax> ok
[17:31] <olie> is ther a seperate channel for adept problems
[17:31] <Ax-Ax> i never used lame for that, so i don't know :)
[17:32] <llutz> Ax-Ax: imho best choice for encoding mp3
[17:32] <Ax-Ax> alright
[17:32] <Ax-Ax> i suck, so i'm going to ask some more
[17:33] <llutz> Ax-Ax: if you need a GUI for your conversion, use soundkonverter
[17:34] <Ax-Ax> not that
[17:34] <Ax-Ax> can i copy the folder musik/, with subfolders, to ftp/ whitout the flacs?
[17:34] <Ax-Ax> that would be handy
[17:35] <coggz> hi, all, any one from uk use iplayer?
[17:38] <coggz> anyone?
[17:39] <Lynoure> coggz: better results by asking the actual question...
[17:40] <pushax> hi all.  how can I get qmake?   is it apart of QT4?
[17:40] <emilsedgh> yes pushax
[17:41] <pushax> emilsedgh: I've got QT4 installed but no qmake
[17:41] <pushax> emilsedgh: including the dev pack
[17:41] <coggz> i already did, but again: any one from uk use iplayer?
[17:41] <emilsedgh> hm
[17:41] <emilsedgh> pushax: no idea :)
[17:41] <emilsedgh> pushax: but i think you should get it, what
[17:41] <pushax> emilsedgh: ok no
[17:42] <emilsedgh> pushax: but i think you should get it, what is the output of 'whereis qmake' ?
[17:42] <nosrednaekim> pushax» its called qmake-qt4
[17:42] <pushax> nosrednaekim: ok.  I couldn't find that in the repository
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> pushax» thats what the executable is called, its in the qt dev pack
[17:43] <pushax> nosrednaekim: ok thx
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> pushax» just put "qmake-qt4" into the terminal and it will tell you want package is called that has it
[17:44] <pushax> ok
[17:44] <pushax> default@masterhost:~/Desktop/KeePassX-0.3.0$ qmake-qt4
[17:44] <pushax> Project MESSAGE: See 'INSTALL' for configuration options.
[17:44] <pushax> Project MESSAGE: Install Prefix: /usr
[17:44] <pushax> Project MESSAGE: *** Makefile successfully generated.
[17:44] <pushax> Project MESSAGE: *** Start make now.
[17:45] <Ax-Ax> hello
[17:45] <nosrednaekim> pushax» then you have it
[17:45] <nosrednaekim> hello Ax-Ax
[17:46] <pushax> nosrednaekim: ok thx.  it jsut said there was an error when I type just qmake which was int he instructions of a source I wanted to build
[17:46] <Ax-Ax> i have lots of folders with flac and mp3, same songs, and i want to copy the whole directory-structure to another folder, but whitout the flacs
[17:46] <Ax-Ax> is there any fast way of doing that?
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> pushax» for some reason ubuntu chose to call it qmake-qt4....confused me for a while as well
[17:47] <pushax> nosrednaekim: nevermind my mistake.  I didn't read the command line properly
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> Ax-Ax» yeah.. there is... but I forget it ^_^ we need a command line master...
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido» ping
[17:47] <Ax-Ax> nosrednaekim :(:(
[17:48] <NickPresta> Ax-Ax, I would probably use `find` with the exec option (or xargs).
[17:49] <Ax-Ax> can i copy only the folders first?
[17:49] <Ax-Ax> and then only the mp3s?
[17:53] <flipstar> why dont you copy and delete the .flacs ..
[17:53] <Ax-Ax> it takes awful time
[17:54] <Blsh> i have ndiswrapper installed i installed the driver and i ran ndiswrapper -m yet i stil dont have a wlan0 :(
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> Blsh» you need to run "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> Blsh» -m only takes effect on reboot
[17:58] <Blsh> i already rebooted 4times....
[17:58] <pushax> Thanks team, got my problem fixed.  installed KeePassX properly
[17:58] <Blsh> i also added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules
[17:59] <tekteen> Blsh: you need to blacklist the module ubuntu may WANT to use.
[18:00] <Blsh> i already blacklisted r8169
[18:00] <tekteen> ok
[18:00] <tekteen> Blsh: when you type ifconfig does wlan0 show up
[18:00] <Blsh> no
[18:00] <Blsh> eth0 and lo shows up
[18:01] <tekteen> ok
[18:01] <tekteen> pastebin the contents of /etc/network/interfaces
[18:02] <Blsh> i can type it but not paste it.... since that computer has no internet.......
[18:02] <Blsh> lol
[18:02] <tekteen> doesn't it have ethernet?
[18:02] <Blsh> only auto lo and iface lo inet loopback is in that file....
[18:02] <tekteen> ok
[18:02] <Blsh> tekteen, it does but i only have wifi access.....
[18:02] <tekteen> got it
[18:03] <tekteen> add "auto wlan0" to that file then reboot
[18:03] <tekteen> not quotes
[18:03] <tekteen> no*
[18:03] <Blsh> when i run ifconfig -a i don't even see wlan0.......
[18:04] <chidam> hi everybody,this is my first time here.....
[18:04] <tekteen> Blsh: which the reason to add it
[18:04] <tekteen> chidam: hi
[18:04] <emilsedgh> !hi | chidam
[18:04] <ubotu> chidam: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[18:05] <tekteen> Blsh: then reboot
[18:05] <Blsh> teknet i thought when you run ifconfig -a it shows all things... ok added rebooting now
[18:05] <flipstar> Ax-Ax: what about rsync -ravz --exclude=*.flac --include=*.mp3 Music.old.dir  Music.new.dir
[18:05] <tekteen> brb
[18:05] <Ax-Ax> flipstar, i'll try that
[18:06] <tekteen> ok
[18:06]  * tekteen had to answer the phone
[18:08] <chidam> i forgot my password to kdewallet,how can reset it?
[18:08] <tekteen> chidam: your passwords are lost
[18:08] <tekteen> chidam: but you prob. can get rid of the wallet all together and make a new one
[18:09] <Blsh> still nothing :(
[18:10] <tekteen> chidam: you can delete ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/*.kwl
[18:10] <chidam> can u plz tell me how to do it...
[18:10] <tekteen> chidam: that deletes ***everything***
[18:10] <tekteen> Blsh: sorry phone again
[18:11] <tekteen> Blsh: it did not work?
[18:12] <Blsh> no
[18:12] <tekteen> Blsh: post what is in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[18:13] <Blsh> tekteen, how do i paste.... the computer has no net....
[18:13] <tekteen> Blsh: copy the line that has wlan0 in it
[18:14] <Blsh> no internet on that laptop..........
[18:14] <tekteen> Blsh: TYPE
[18:15] <Blsh> IT HAS THE MAC OF THE OTHER CARD...
[18:15] <tekteen> Blsh: here is an example from mine: SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:1a:73:ba:c8:64", ATTRS{type}=="1", NAME="wlan0"
[18:15] <chidam> tekteen:i'm new to linux as well,so i'm a zero at konsole programming,can u tell me whats command line for delete
[18:15] <Blsh> i have something like that but here is what happened....
[18:16] <flipstar> chidam: rm is for delete a file
[18:16] <kaens> chidam: rm. man rm to read about it
[18:16] <Blsh> i installed a bcm43xx card in my laptop (ive used these a lot on linux they word faily well) but when i installed it, it didn't work out to well seems it couldn't find any networks....
[18:17] <Blsh> so i took it back out and put in the one that came with the computer the RTL8101E
[18:18] <tekteen> Blsh: I tried bcm43xx on my laptop
[18:18] <tekteen> it did not work
[18:18] <Blsh> well i removed it because i could not scan (i guess my mobo on my newlaptop wont work with just any wifi card....) :(
[18:19] <tekteen> Blsh: ndiswrapper normally works
[18:19] <Blsh> yes i know :)
[18:19] <tekteen> although I had to install the latest one
[18:19] <tekteen> from source
[18:19] <Blsh> not even in vista i could scan :(
[18:19] <tekteen> that is vista for you
[18:19] <Blsh> witch is why i look at the bios for the problem....
[18:19] <tekteen> no
[18:19] <tekteen> it is a driver issue
[18:19] <tekteen> or hw
[18:20] <Blsh> well tekteen besides the slowness of vista when i hae the RTK8101 it works fine and can scan, when i install the bcm43xx card i cant scan in linux or vista so its hardware not software
[18:20] <Blsh> its the bloody mobo
[18:20] <tekteen> ok
[18:21]  * tekteen has to get the phone AGAIN
[18:21] <Blsh> this is what i get for buying a gateway lol
[18:21] <Blsh> and kk
[18:21]  * tekteen wants to disconnect the phone
[18:21] <ke9v> hello all
[18:21] <tekteen> !ho|ke9v
[18:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ho - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:22] <tekteen> !hi|ke9v
[18:22] <ubotu> ke9v: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[18:22] <Blsh> !rtl8101e
[18:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rtl8101e - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:22] <tekteen> Blsh: what is in the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[18:23] <Blsh> tekteen same as the one you posted but with the mac of the bcm43xx that i already removed
[18:23] <tekteen> delete that
[18:24] <tekteen> it was removed. you do not need it
[18:24] <Blsh> at the top it says this file is automatically made each boot....
[18:24] <tekteen> yep
[18:24] <tekteen> just delete it
[18:24] <tekteen> (that line)
[18:24] <tekteen> not the whole file
[18:24] <Blsh> ok deleted that line
[18:24] <Blsh> now what?
[18:25] <tekteen> is there one for wlan1?
[18:25] <tekteen> or any others?
[18:25] <Blsh> nope
[18:25] <Blsh> just the wlan0 for the removed bcm
[18:25] <tekteen> what is the output of sudo lshw -C network
[18:26] <Blsh> when i removed the line reran the ndiswrapper my computer just locked up
[18:27] <tekteen> don't rerun ndiswrapper
[18:27] <Blsh> but it did add the right thing since network manager started to connect
[18:27] <tekteen> restart the computer
[18:27] <Blsh> just lots of lagg.....
[18:27] <Blsh> i am lol
[18:27] <JoshOvki> it will lock up your computer if you rerun ndiswrapper ;)
[18:27] <Blsh> now you tell me....
[18:27] <Blsh> i just remodprobbed it....
[18:28] <tekteen> Blsh: bad idea
[18:28] <RurouniJones> Out of curiosity - Where would you lot stick an SVN repository on a linux box? (What does the mighty HFS docu have to say about that).
[18:29] <tekteen> Blsh: now tell me what is in that file
[18:29] <tekteen> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[18:29] <Blsh> my ndiswrapper :), with the right mac
[18:30] <Blsh> but ifconfig still does not see it
[18:30] <tekteen> Blsh: better
[18:30] <tekteen> what is in /etc/network/interfaces?
[18:30] <tekteen> check again
[18:30] <chidam> in many of the installation i make,some packages cant be verified,are they safe,
[18:31] <Blsh> this is weird...., # PCI device 0x10ec:0x8136 appear twice, one with r8169 (for the hard line) and again for the wifi with ndiswrapper within the ()'s
[18:31] <tekteen> ?
[18:31] <tekteen> are you saying it thinks they are both the same?
[18:32] <Blsh> my computer thinks it is..., one of the macs is for the hardline the other mac is for the ndiswrapper
[18:32] <JoshOvki> chidam: its up to your own disgression. I would carry on regardless
[18:32] <tekteen> Blsh: I think there is not a problem
[18:32] <Blsh> i mean wlan
[18:32] <Blsh> its pointing to the same device for different reasons :-\
[18:33] <tekteen> Blsh: I think it will work (I hope)
[18:33] <tekteen> Blsh: modprobe ndiswrapper
[18:33] <JoshOvki> I had lots of problems with ndiswrapper and MAC addresses. and it seemed to just work
[18:34] <tekteen> Blsh: what is in /etc/network/interfaces?
[18:34] <Blsh> tekteen i don't have to run that everyboot :), i have ndiswrapper in /etc/modules
[18:34] <tekteen> ok
[18:34] <Blsh> auto lo, iface lo inet loopback
[18:35] <tekteen> add "auto wlan0" then run the command /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:35] <JoshOvki> Blsh: do you plan on using knetworkmanager to connect to devices or are you going to just connect to the one?
[18:36] <chidam> i seem to be the only greenhorn here,i want some suggestions on where start learning about linux basically....
[18:36] <Blsh> knetworkmanager
[18:36] <tekteen> greenhorn?
[18:36] <chidam> a newbie...
[18:36] <tekteen> chidam: linux.org has some good stuff
[18:37] <Blsh> unknown intergace wlan0=wlan0
[18:37] <JoshOvki> tekteen: do you think it wise to get Blsh to add stuff to /etc/network/interfaces   because thats going to mess up using knetworkmanger
[18:37] <sh4rm4> how can i mount the sd-card i just put in my laptop-builtin sd-card reader ?
[18:37] <tekteen> JoshOvki: it will help knetworkmanager
[18:37] <tekteen> I know what I am doing :-)
[18:37] <flipstar> sh4rm4: there is no pop-up ?
[18:37] <Blsh> i know somewhat of what i am doing :D
[18:37] <JoshOvki> tekteen: but from my experience adding things into that file means that knetworkmanager wont detect the device
[18:37] <tekteen> I have broken it before and therefor know what broke it
[18:38] <tekteen> JoshOvki: adding anything more then auto DEVICE will break it
[18:38] <pushax> sh4rm4: if it doesn't auto detect you may see outthe controller chip that does the SD  card reading, then seek out a driver
[18:38] <Helikaon> hey guys, this is going to sound like a damn stupid question, so i apologise. I take care of my families computers, have just installed a fresh copy of kubuntu on my sisters pc and sudo passwd isnt working for me, given i dont live here root access would be damn useful, can anyone tell me how i can get root?
[18:38] <Blsh> ROTFLMFAO!!!!!
[18:38] <Blsh> i got it !!!!!!!!!!!
[18:38] <JoshOvki> tekteen: fair enough
[18:38]  * JoshOvki steps back
[18:38] <tekteen> Blsh: it works
[18:38] <tekteen> ?
[18:38] <Blsh> but now my computer locks up when i enable the wifi...
[18:39] <tekteen> JoshOvki: it is ok
[18:39] <Blsh> or gets reallly slow
[18:39] <sh4rm4> pushax: so kubuntu should usually auto-mount it ?
[18:39] <Blsh> i should more or less say.....
[18:39] <tekteen> Blsh: :-(
[18:39] <tekteen> Blsh: run top
[18:39] <pushax> sh4rm4: it did for mine.  did you try #sudo discover
[18:39] <tekteen> Blsh: why is it going slow
[18:40] <Blsh> when i disable the r8169 and ndiswapper then rerun depmod -r then modprobe ndiswrapper i get the device to show up :)
[18:40] <tekteen> Blsh: try sudo iwlist scanning
[18:40] <pushax> sh4rm4: I'm no expert so my suggestions are only sideliners...
[18:40] <sh4rm4> pushax: not yet
[18:40] <JoshOvki> Helikaon: its always strongly discorrages but:    sudo passwd root
[18:40] <Blsh> it just locked up
[18:40] <Blsh> i am going to redo everything after i rewrite the ndiswrapper config
[18:40] <sh4rm4> pushax: i did it, nothing happened
[18:41] <Helikaon> JoshOvki: no work, even that tried to change the user passowrd, not root
[18:41] <tekteen> Blsh: restart (again)
[18:41] <Blsh> logging in :), when it lockes up i cant do anything but restart (lol)
[18:41] <pushax> sh4rm4: is you card reader a texas instruments chip?
[18:41] <sh4rm4> no...
[18:42] <flipstar> Helikaon: just type sudo then you'll be asked for an password..
[18:42] <JoshOvki> Helikaon: the other option is to do it via System Settings
[18:43] <sh4rm4> pushax: it s a ricoh
[18:43] <Blsh> i keep locking up :(
[18:43] <dennister> ok, this burning supergrub.iso isn't working for me cuz all my spare cdrw disks may have errors on them (getting old, used a lot)
[18:43] <Blsh> damn realtek card :(
[18:43] <tekteen> Blsh: I do not know what would lock it p
[18:44] <Blsh> i am going to run everythign through the terminal and not konsole
[18:44] <Helikaon> JoshOvki: how do you do it via system settings?
[18:44] <Blsh> ctrl+alt+f1 here i come lol
[18:44] <pushax> sh4rm4: get or run ksysteminfo and see what's happening at your kernel leve when you plug a sd in
[18:44] <dennister> still trying to find the hidden restore partition on this emachines pc
[18:44] <beener> is there a arcade emu better then kxmame?
[18:44] <pushax> sh4rm4: maybe there's an error. if there's no detection then you need to seek out installing driver or firmware
[18:44] <sh4rm4> pushax: its a 0e:06.1 Generic system peripheral [0805]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 22)
[18:44] <JoshOvki> Helikaon: System Settings > User Management > click   Show System Accounts
[18:45] <dennister> gparted doesn't see it...oh shoot! forgot to mount the drive using the livecd...bbs
[18:45] <tekteen> Blsh: what locked up?
[18:45] <Blsh> BUT: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 11s (wrapndis_wq:5651]
[18:45] <Blsh> keeps showing up
[18:45] <Blsh> BUG*
[18:46] <pushax> sh4rm4: http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&hs=AXY&q="R5C822"+"ricoh"+"linux"&btnG=Search&meta=
[18:46] <Helikaon> awesome thanks
[18:46] <JoshOvki> Helikaon: you got it/?
[18:46] <JoshOvki> cool
[18:47] <Blsh> i guess this is what i get for using the latest and greatest distro?
[18:47] <tekteen> Blsh: I do not know how to help you
[18:47] <Blsh> i think this is because i am on 8.04
[18:47] <tekteen> and we never even got the driver working :_)
[18:48] <tekteen> :-)*
[18:48] <sh4rm4> pushax: k, thx. how can i install that ksysteminfo ?
[18:48] <Blsh> i am going to go look for my 7.04 cd brb
[18:48] <beener> is there a arcade emu better then kxmame?
[18:48] <pushax> sh4rm4: use adept
[18:48] <tekteen> Blsh: ok :-D
[18:48] <sh4rm4> pushax: there#s no such package
[18:48] <Blsh> tekteen, do you think it could be that i am running 8.04
[18:49] <pushax> sh4rm4: or sudo apt-get install ksysteminfo  is theat the name of it
[18:49] <tekteen> Blsh: I do not know if you are
[18:49] <tekteen> but prob not
[18:49] <Blsh> i am running it...
[18:49] <Blsh> got it off of there website the other day
[18:49] <tekteen> you are?
[18:49] <tekteen> :-|
[18:49] <sh4rm4> pushax: there#s no such package
[18:49] <Blsh> yes i am running the alpha version :D
[18:49] <tekteen> >:o
[18:49] <sh4rm4> E: Couldn't find package ksysteminfo
[18:49] <Blsh> i like to help test
[18:49] <tekteen> Blsh: there is you problem
[18:50] <pushax> sh4rm4: ksystemlog sorry
[18:50] <Blsh> what is so bad about 8.04?
[18:50] <sh4rm4> ah ok...thats already installed
[18:50] <tekteen> Blsh: it is in alpha
[18:50] <sh4rm4> good thx, i will investigate further
[18:50] <flipstar> !hardy > Blsh
[18:51] <Blsh> i am running kubuntu 8.04 though....
[18:51] <Blsh> is there a kubuntu+1?
[18:51] <flipstar> its the same chan
[18:51] <pushax> sh4rm4: also get kde-hal-device-manager  which will tell you alot about your hardware and wht's connected
[18:51] <JoshOvki>  is there much difference in KDE 3.5.9?
[18:52] <Blsh> now i remember when i have to use the alpha (lol)
[18:52] <Hydrogen> no
[18:52] <Hydrogen> there isn't
[18:52] <JoshOvki> alright, i wont bother changing yet then
[18:52] <Blsh> what is safe graphics mode?
[18:53] <tekteen> Blsh: you do not want that
[18:53] <_Shade_> hi there
[18:53] <Blsh> i get this when booting the live cd for 7.04 (BusyBox v1.1.3 (debian....) Build-in shell (ash) /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off
[18:53] <_Shade_> can i set up a lan connection over irda?
[18:53] <beener> is there a arcade emu better then kxmame? just tell me the name i can gothrought the install
[18:53] <tekteen> !hi|_Shade_
[18:53] <ubotu> _Shade_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[18:54] <pushax> sh4rm4: one you have ksystemlog you may need to add the kernel logs by doing the setup and locating the logs.  it should be in the right directory to start
[18:54] <tekteen> Blsh: I like gutsy
[18:55] <Blsh> can i have gnome and kde without each others menu crud in the other wm?
[18:56] <tekteen> Blsh: yes
[18:56] <tekteen> just don't use it
[18:56] <chidam> i tried kaffeine for opening a .avi file,i can hear the audio all right,but all i can see is bars on the screen
[18:56] <tekteen> do you want kde's gnome's or other (icewm, ect)
[18:56] <pushax> sh4rm4: once you find out all the details, if it did find it then you may simply need to mount the device
[18:56] <tekteen> chidam: try to open it in vlc
[18:57] <beener> @chidam get  mplayer
[18:58] <Blsh> why do i keep getting dropped into the busy box shell?
[18:59] <Blsh> even when running the live cd.... of 7.10, so i cant boot 7.04 or 7.10.....
[19:01] <rais> hi all
[19:01] <BluesKaj> beener, no point in using @ on irc .It doesn't highlight the nick., but proper spelling of the nick you are addressing does .
[19:01] <rais> what codecs do I need to watch videos on kaffeine
[19:01] <rais> kubuntu 7.10
[19:01] <rais> thanks
[19:04] <BluesKaj> rais, it depends on the video codec...xine on kaffiens can play most video files except realvideo
[19:04] <BluesKaj> err kaffeine
[19:04] <tekteen> rais left
[19:04] <Antkin> Hello
[19:05] <tekteen> Antkin: hi
[19:05] <BluesKaj> yeah, I saw that too late
[19:05] <Antkin> tekteen Hello
[19:05] <Antkin> I've been busy on the Ubuntu Forum
[19:07] <Antkin> Glad to be here now
[19:08] <Antkin> tekteen how is Your day going?
[19:08] <tekteen> good
[19:08] <smurfslover> hi there
[19:08] <tekteen> smurfslover: hi
[19:08] <smurfslover> just installed hardy
[19:09] <smurfslover> anyone has tried it?
[19:09] <tekteen> !ubuntu+1
[19:09] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[19:09] <tekteen> oops
[19:09] <Antkin> smurfslover Hi
[19:09] <tekteen> #ubuntu+1 is the support channel
[19:09] <tekteen> they have all used it
[19:09] <smurfslover> ok thx
[19:10] <Antkin> smurfslover Do you have a problem?
[19:10] <smurfslover> feels odd a live cd with kde4 but it's great kubuntu makes so much effort in supporting kde4
[19:10] <smurfslover> xorg in 8.04 does not configure at all
[19:11] <smurfslover> had to rip xorg.conf from gutsy live cd
[19:11] <smurfslover> but now i can't install nvidia driver
[19:11] <nosrednaekim> smurfslover» thats because it 7.3... it is not supposed to need a config
[19:11] <smurfslover> it doesn't work without a config
[19:12] <smurfslover> so i took the conf from ubuntu gutsy live cd
[19:12] <nosrednaekim> !hardy
[19:12] <jeka_> where russian IRC server?
[19:12] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[19:12] <smurfslover> that worked untill i installed nvidia-glx-new
[19:12] <jeka_> where russian IRC server?
[19:12] <x89x> hello can anyone help me with sound problems ?
[19:12] <NickPresta> !ru | jeka_
[19:12] <smurfslover> but hey it's alpha software
[19:12] <ubotu> jeka_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[19:13] <smurfslover> i don't mind fidling around a little
[19:13] <jeka_> thank
[19:13] <smurfslover> now up to ubuntu+1
[19:13] <x89x> smurfslover : Can you help ?
[19:13] <x89x> i have a sblive 5.1 card. I am not getting sound output
[19:13] <smurfslover> maybe x89x
[19:14] <x89x> i tried to change drvice by double clicking the volume iocon
[19:14] <x89x> and choosing SB LIVE from the FILE -> DEvices menu
[19:14] <x89x> FILE -> Change Devices
[19:15] <sh4rm4> smurfslover: use envy to install tha driver
[19:16] <x89x> smurfslover : :-w
[19:16] <smurfslover> sh4rm4: envy?
[19:16] <smurfslover> i think i used jockey
[19:17] <smurfslover> or something
[19:17] <sh4rm4> yes that s  a nice python script to compile the driver especially for your kernel
[19:17] <sh4rm4> including a gui
[19:17] <jussi01> !envy | sh4rm4
[19:17] <ubotu> sh4rm4: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[19:17] <sh4rm4> ubotu: it didnt work here, but envy did
[19:17] <jussi01> !bot > sh4rm4
[19:18] <jussi01> sh4rm4: We dont support envy, so please dont recomend it.
[19:18] <smurfslover> it's not the nvidia driver that causes problems it's hardy
[19:18] <smurfslover> even with the standard xorg i was stuck to 600x800 res
[19:18] <flipstar> smurfslover: on 2.6.24-11 ?
[19:19] <smurfslover> don't know
[19:19] <smurfslover> hardy standard kernel
[19:19] <jussi01> smurfslover: Hardy support in #ubuntu+1 :)
[19:19] <flipstar> okay
[19:19] <smurfslover> it's not running now i have pclinuxos as stable distro
[19:19] <smurfslover> hardy is for fun
[19:20] <x89x> how do i get my Via K8M890 video driver to work ? How do i install it ?/
[19:21] <ctx144k> hello all
[19:21] <sh4rm4> x89x: use vesa driver ?
[19:21] <Antkin> tx144k Welcome
[19:21] <ctx144k> iam uising konqueror for file-management, and surfing
[19:22] <x89x> vesa sucks shArmA
[19:22] <x89x> sharma
[19:22] <ctx144k> for file-management i used the follow viewing-mode: http://www.lingox.de/_ctx/screen1.png
[19:22] <x89x> i cant get the output more than 60Hz
[19:22] <tekteen> ctx144k: kde4?
[19:22] <Antkin> I use Konqueror, Firefox and Opera
[19:22] <sh4rm4> yep, thats the same problem i had
[19:23] <x89x> sharma do you know hindi
[19:23] <ctx144k> if i call then a webside, and call after that a directory in left directory-tree, i get another view-mode:
[19:23] <sh4rm4> i solved it with an nvidia card, and threw the ati shice away
[19:23] <sh4rm4> thola
[19:23] <ctx144k> http://www.lingox.de/_ctx/screen2.png
[19:23] <ctx144k> kde 3.5.8
[19:23] <x89x> oh cool. i remember doing something last time and i got it to work !
[19:23] <BluesKaj> sh4rm4:  check system settings/advanced and look for restricted driver, if not you need to search the mfg site for a linux driver
[19:23] <ctx144k> anyone have an idea how to disable chaninging viewing-mode of files?
[19:24] <BluesKaj> sh4rm4:  telling ppl to throw hardware away doesn't help solve their problem
[19:25] <jussi01> x89x: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[19:25] <sh4rm4> BluesKaj: sometimes its better to invest 20 bucks in a used nvidia card, then trying days to get something else to work
[19:26] <x89x> sh4rm4 but it works !
[19:26] <flipstar> sh4rm4: same experience here
[19:26] <intelikey> does windows vesta work ?
[19:26] <Arwen> intelikey, Vesta? No, probably not.
[19:27] <BluesKaj> x89x: check system settings/advanced and look for restricted driver, if not you need to search the mfg site for a linux driver
[19:27] <jussi01> x89x: As i mentioned in the url a moment ago, you need to install the openchrome driver. have a look at that url :)
[19:27] <intelikey> Arwen hmmmmm i think i'm presently booting a windows vesta recovery disk...   ;/
[19:27] <Antkin> Any Boinc users here?
[19:27] <Arwen> *cough* Vesta DOES NOT EXISTING
[19:28] <nosrednaekim> DOES NOT EXISTING?
[19:28] <flipstar> whats that ?
[19:28] <BluesKaj> !vista
[19:28] <ubotu> vista is the new 'operating system' by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org and !windows
[19:28] <intelikey> that sentance no verb
[19:28] <flipstar> oh
[19:28] <nosrednaekim> ^_^
[19:29] <BluesKaj> vesta...hrmph ...gimme a break
[19:29] <flipstar> Arwen: i used boinc once ..
[19:30] <Antkin> You should ditch Vista install Windows XP again or wait for Windows 7, in the meantime use Kubuntu
[19:30] <MonctonJoe> could someone tell me how to send a file to a printer port?
[19:30] <tekteen> I like the new guy
[19:31] <tekteen> MonctonJoe: configure printers in systemsettings
[19:32] <MonctonJoe> tekteen: how can I send a file directly to printer port, without configuring in system settings?
[19:32] <tekteen> MonctonJoe: no idea
[19:32] <MonctonJoe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57987/
[19:32] <MonctonJoe> like it tells me to in that
[19:33] <sh4rm4> MonctonJoe: maybe cat myfile.tx > /dev/lpt1
[19:33] <Blsh> tekteen, i am now running 7.10
[19:33] <x89x> jussi01 : Can i install the 3d drivers on fiesty ??
[19:33] <Blsh> and my bloody computer STILL locks up
[19:33] <MonctonJoe> sh4rm4: do I replace myfile with the name of the file?
[19:34] <jussi01> x89x: Im not certain, but I imagine so.
[19:34] <tekteen> Blsh: lol
[19:34] <x89x> its written edgy so ...
[19:34] <sh4rm4> MonctonJoe: yes, and /dev/lpt1 with wwhatever your lpt ports device name is
[19:34] <Blsh> what are my options now?
[19:35] <tekteen> Blsh: no idea
[19:35] <MonctonJoe> sh4rm4: would I need to say where myfile.txt is?
[19:35] <sh4rm4> MonctonJoe: yes, except it is in the actual directory
[19:36] <MonctonJoe> sh4rm4: do I type that in terminal?
[19:36] <sh4rm4> yes
[19:36] <Blsh> anyone have an idea?
[19:36] <stefan_> Hello all :)
[19:36] <MonctonJoe> so I have to put the myfile into the same driectory as the printer?
[19:37] <Blsh> i HATE vista please help me ppl lol
[19:37] <sh4rm4> no :) if myfile is in /home/yourname then you have to cd in that dir
[19:37] <x89x> how do i backup my xorg file ??
[19:37] <stefan_> i have the problem to get a wlan card running
[19:37] <tekteen> !vista
[19:37] <ubotu> vista is the new 'operating system' by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org and !windows
[19:37] <Blsh> i am stranded on vista if linux won't work :(
[19:37] <stefan_> modprobe ipw3945
[19:37] <stefan_> FATAL: Error inserting ipw3945 (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/wireless/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[19:37] <stefan_> 2008-03-02 20:33:05: ERROR: Could not find Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
[19:37] <tekteen> stefan_: what type of card is it?
[19:37] <flipstar> !wlan | stefan_ Blsh
[19:37] <ubotu> stefan_ Blsh: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:37] <stefan_> can someone help?
[19:37] <BluesKaj> Blsh:  are you hoping to dual boot ?
[19:37] <JoshOvki> i use vista + kubuntu. kubuntu mostly
[19:38] <stefan_> its a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[19:38] <tekteen> have you checked the restricted drivers manager?
[19:39] <Blsh> BluesKaj, i am hoping to kick vista out asap
[19:39] <stefan_> hmm where can I find it?
[19:39] <tekteen> stefan_: type alt + F2
[19:39] <tekteen> then in the box type ...
[19:39] <tekteen> kdesu restricted-manager-kde
[19:40] <MonctonJoe> sh4rm4: ok, so how do I figure out what needs to replace /dev/usb/lp0 ?
[19:40] <flipstar> Blsh: shred -z -u -n10 VISTA
[19:40] <sh4rm4> use that
[19:40] <MonctonJoe> k
[19:40] <sh4rm4>  /dev/usb/lp0 sound correct
[19:41] <stefan_> okay I see it the checkbox is on but it is unused!
[19:41] <stefan_> how can I make used?
[19:41] <tekteen> stefan_: click the box?
[19:41] <MonctonJoe> sh4rm4: do I require a file extension on myfile?
[19:42] <sh4rm4> that depends how your filename is
[19:42] <x89x> anyone if i do something that i cannot get my PC started after editing my xorg.conf file, how do i restre the file that i have backed up >>>??
[19:42] <intelikey> well i did boot a viste recovery cd
[19:42] <intelikey> interesting critter
[19:42] <stefan_> yes, I uncheck it and check it again, now I need a reboot
[19:42] <tekteen> so... do it
[19:43] <stefan_> Ill try it, thanks so far till later
[19:43] <flipstar> x89x: sudo cp /etc/Xorg/xorg.backup /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf
[19:43] <MonctonJoe> sh4rm4: the file "myfile" is called output, when I check the properties of it, it says its a program. and it wont run and it wont open in a text editor. wold you know of a solution to this?
[19:43] <x89x> jsut a space between the two flipstar ?
[19:43] <Blsh> 363
[19:43] <intelikey> would the gnome tray icon of the network monitor   be using band width by any chance ?
[19:43] <Blsh> lol dang num lock
[19:44] <flipstar> x89x: correction : sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:44] <sh4rm4> it wont open in a text editor? maybe you dont have the permissions ?
[19:44] <flipstar> x89x: yes
[19:44] <Piddy> How do I dual boot?
[19:44] <nosrednaekim> !dualboot
[19:44] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[19:44] <Piddy> Wanna have Windows XP aswell.
[19:44] <MonctonJoe> sh4rm4: how do I get permission?
[19:44] <Piddy> thanks
[19:44] <intelikey> Piddy you install two OS's
[19:45] <JoshOvki> always install kubuntu last
[19:45] <JoshOvki> saves all the hastle of grub
[19:45] <sh4rm4> MonctonJoe: open a terminal, type sudo -s , then chmod 777 myfile
[19:45] <intelikey> JoshOvki nah.  no trubble at all with grub from other os's
[19:45] <Antkin> Piddy have you seen my guide to dual booting Windows and Linux?
[19:46] <JoshOvki> intelikey: i always have problems when trying to install grub seperatly, i just can never seem to get it work
[19:46] <Piddy> Antkin: I think it's the one I'm reading right now, but I already have Kubuntu, and I wanna install Windows on the side.
[19:46] <tekteen> !dualboot
[19:46] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[19:46] <JoshOvki> anyone here got  backtrack2 and kubuntu dualooting?
[19:46] <smurfslover> i put grub on the same partition as the distro
[19:46] <tekteen> JoshOvki: I did at one point
[19:46] <tekteen> not anymore
[19:47] <smurfslover> then pclinuxos puts its grub in mbr and i make chainloaders to the other grubs
[19:47] <tekteen> JoshOvki: you need help
[19:47] <tekteen> ?
[19:47] <JoshOvki> tekteen: shame, ive been trying but had no luck.  I might just try installing to a flash drive
[19:47] <Antkin> Sorry Windows thinks it's the only system in the world it has to go on first then you add Linux
[19:47] <intelikey> JoshOvki sorry.  you didn't catch what i was saying,   other os does not mean M$ *   i.e. "no trouble with grub from other os's" is saying that other operating systems that use grub have no problem with your existing linux install....
[19:47] <tekteen> JoshOvki: I never got it to work on a flash drive
[19:48] <stefan_> okay,I did a reboot
[19:48] <JoshOvki> intelikey: ah i see :)
[19:48] <stefan_> the driver is unused
[19:48] <smurfslover> pclinuxos as well as kubuntu include other distro's in grub
[19:48] <stefan_> what can I try now?
[19:48] <smurfslover> but with kubuntu you need to use the alternate install cd to reconfigure your mbr when it's lost
[19:48] <intelikey> i was trying to help break the M$ mentality that there is only one OS...
[19:48] <tekteen> JoshOvki: you do not want it on your computer. you want to be able to hide all traces of it ;-)
[19:48] <x89x> can i run MS visual studio on ubuntu fiesty ??
[19:48]  * jussi01 wonders why....
[19:48] <Antkin> Piddy Sorry Windows thinks it's the only system in the world it has to go on first then you add Linux
[19:49] <JoshOvki> tekteen: im studying computer forensics, i have good reason for having it :)
[19:49] <sh4rm4> x89x: yes with vmware
[19:49] <tekteen> JoshOvki: uh... I am too
[19:49] <Piddy> Aw.. I don't wanna waste everything I have on kubuntu :(
[19:49] <JoshOvki> tekteen: what year
[19:49] <smurfslover> windows is too bloat to use a decent bootloader
[19:49] <tekteen> JoshOvki: I am studding pen testing at home
[19:49] <tekteen> I am 15
[19:49] <x89x> sh4rm4 : HOw do i get vmware ?
[19:50] <intelikey> JoshOvki quick Q,  on a box with no partition table what's the first assumption ?
[19:50] <Antkin> Piddy do you realy need windows?
[19:50] <smurfslover> windows doesn't even want to install on anything but hda1
[19:50] <intelikey> s/box/disk/
[19:50] <jussi01> !vmware | x89x
[19:50] <ubotu> x89x: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[19:50] <tekteen> JoshOvki: I want to get a job pen testing when I am older.
[19:50] <sh4rm4> download it from vmware.com ... use a trial to create your windows vm, then use the free vmware player on linux to run it
[19:51] <JoshOvki> i would think that its been fdisks so someone is hiding something. so rebuild the table and see whats there
[19:51] <JoshOvki> brb
[19:51] <Blsh> how can i get a deb for ndiswrapper 1.52?
[19:51] <intelikey> JoshOvki heh.  ok.   but i personally don't use partitions...  so first assumptions are not always a good guess.
[19:51] <smurfslover> i prefer Virtualbox over vmware
[19:52] <intelikey> JoshOvki just thought it might help somewhere along the way...
[19:52] <sh4rm4> smurfslover: is it free?
[19:52] <Antkin> Piddy is it Windows XP?
[19:52] <Piddy> Antkin: Yes.
[19:52] <smurfslover> there's a free version and there's an opensource version
[19:53] <smurfslover> proprietary version has usb support
[19:53] <JoshOvki> intelikey: just because you havnt set up partitions there is still a table for it. even if it is just one record to say the whole drive is one
[19:53] <reese> in which package do i find libgobject-2.0.so.0?
[19:53] <smurfslover> but all new features come to the open source version after a while
[19:53] <intelikey> smurfslover ?  "there's a free version and there's an opensource version"  opensource==free   what am i missing ?
[19:53] <reese> i'm using gutsy 64bit, and I need that package to make work adobe reader with the 32bit emulation
[19:53] <x89x> whats the best jussi01 ??
[19:53] <smurfslover> the free version is not open source
[19:54] <Antkin> Piddy I can not make any guarantee this will work but it is a last resort
[19:54] <smurfslover> you can't get the source code but you don't have to pay to use the program
[19:54] <smurfslover> open source is not necessarily free
[19:54] <Blsh> !info ndiswrapper
[19:54] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in gutsy
[19:54] <intelikey> smurfslover oh???    so their nominclature is arie ?
[19:54] <Blsh> !info ndiswrapper-1.52
[19:54] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper-1.52 does not exist in gutsy
[19:55] <x89x> sh4rm4 : EasyVMX and VMWare player. Which ones better ??
[19:55] <intelikey> open source is not necessarily free <<< ?    if the source code is free how can it also be not free ?
[19:55] <stefan_> !wireless
[19:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:55] <sh4rm4> x89x: i just know vmware. but you need vmware workstation to create your image
[19:55] <tekteen> !free
[19:55] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[19:55] <jussi01> x89x: I prefer virtualbox
[19:55]  * intelikey points @ http://www.gnu.org
[19:56] <smurfslover> intelikey: open source means the source has to be available
[19:56] <smurfslover> not that it has to bo free
[19:56] <smurfslover> !opensource
[19:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opensource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:56] <x89x> jussi01 : I am a starter. Whichs ones the easiest to manage ?
[19:56] <smurfslover> lol ubotu
[19:56] <Ahmuck> !dvd
[19:56] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[19:56] <jussi01> x89x: virtualbox has alwas been good for me.
[19:57] <clood_> hi ^^
[19:57] <Antkin> Piddy use GParted to make a NTFS windows partition install windows to that partition windows should work OK but you might lose Grub please get advice on how to install Grub again before you start
[19:57] <intelikey> smurfslover well.   for now.  i'm OT so... maybe we can pick this up some other time.   (less active time)
[19:57] <smurfslover> ok intelikey
[19:57] <Piddy> k, thanks
[19:57] <smurfslover> cu
[19:57] <stefan_> wlan driver is not loaded
[19:58] <stefan_> can someone help?
[19:59] <ctx144k> http://www.computerwoche.de/knowledge_center/linux/1850812/ :-P
[19:59] <Antkin> stefan can you give more detail?
[19:59] <ctx144k> upps
[19:59] <Ahmuck> lspci
[19:59] <ctx144k> for german users ^^
[19:59] <Ahmuck> stefan_: lspci to see what you have
[20:00] <stefan_> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[20:01] <stefan_> I tried the restricted-driver-kde but the card is unused
[20:01] <stefan_> How can I make it used?
[20:01] <rewati> hey i am not  able to restart my wireless can any body help me
[20:02] <stefan_> restricted-manager-kde
[20:02] <MonctonJoe> grrrr I still cant get this to do what I want
[20:02] <Ahmuck> stefan_: laptop?
[20:02] <stefan_> yes
[20:02] <Ahmuck> push the wireless button?
[20:02] <tekteen> rewati: what do you mean restart?
[20:02] <rewati> hey my wireless was workin fine last nite but when i restarted my system it failed
[20:03] <rewati> last nite was the first time it was workin
[20:03] <tekteen> rewati: what driver does it use?
[20:03] <rewati> tekteen hey my wireless was workin fine last nite but when i restarted my system it failed
[20:03] <rewati> it is using restricted
[20:03] <tekteen> rewati: I do not know
[20:03] <rewati> tekteen i have broadcom wireless the famous one
[20:04] <stefan_> hmm, can find something on laptop
[20:04] <intelikey> is the viste recovery cd really going to wipe out the whole hdd ?
[20:04] <tekteen> rewati: and it worked lash nite?
[20:04] <tekteen> night*
[20:04] <rewati> tekteen yes
[20:04] <intelikey> or only hda1 ?
[20:04] <stefan_> on keyboard
[20:05] <rewati> tekteen yes it was workin just fine
[20:05] <smonta> good morning
[20:05] <tekteen> rewati: open a konsole and type sudo modprobe wlan0
[20:05] <tekteen> smonta: hi
[20:05] <intelikey> somebody know ?
[20:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> intelikey: i believe it wipes the whole drive
[20:05] <mi_> i can't find python-sexy in hardy 8.04?
[20:05] <rewati> tekteen FATAL: Module wlan1 not found.
[20:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> but i'm not absolutely sure
[20:05] <rewati> tekteen FATAL: Module wlan0 not found.
[20:06] <tekteen> rewati: ok
[20:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> mi_: most of us don't find python sexy anyway, though it's far sexier than perl
[20:06] <tekteen> that is fine
[20:06] <tekteen> tekteen: what is the driver called?
[20:06] <rewati> how do i know that
[20:06] <rewati> tekteen how do i know that
[20:06] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop well that's what it is thretening to do... but i didn't know whether to believe it or not.   you know that windows lies pretty bad.
[20:06] <tekteen> rewati: no idea.
[20:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> intelikey: you're...  installing vista?
[20:07] <tekteen> what type of card is it?
[20:07] <mi_> compiz-settings-manager use python-sexy :(
[20:07] <rewati> tekteen it is using kderestricted driver
[20:07] <tekteen> rewati: go into the manager and tell me what it calls is
[20:07] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop heh   prolly not.    i'm playing with the recovery cd that came with the lappy that has only ever booted linux
[20:08] <tekteen> it*
[20:08] <intelikey> but it is possable that i may accadently let it boot M$ one time before i finish thrashing around
[20:09] <intelikey> i mean other than the recovery disk ^
[20:10] <tekteen> rewati: what is in your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[20:10] <mi_> last kde4 from svn looks great
[20:10] <rewati> tekteen firmware broadcom 43xx chipset family
[20:10] <tekteen> rewati: ok
[20:11] <tekteen> rewati: try sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[20:12] <sh4rm4> what needs to be done that my Konversation nicklist looks like here: http://konversation.kde.org/screenshots/konversation10_2.png
[20:12] <anto> kubuntu france
[20:12] <anto> french
[20:12] <tekteen> !fr
[20:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:12] <rewati> tekteen http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58158/
[20:13] <dennister> ok, I'm having one heck of a lot of trouble burning some iso's with k3b...at first I thought it was my disks, but now I've tried a third one, and the directory on track 1 still can't be read, so I think it must be k3b...any ideas
[20:13] <rewati> tekteen modprobe result was blank
[20:13] <tekteen> rewati: is eth1 the wireless card?
[20:14] <rewati> nothin
[20:14] <tekteen> rewati: good
[20:14] <rewati> yes it is the wireless card
[20:14] <Ahmuck> sh4rm4: ? so that the nick list is on the side?
[20:14] <tekteen> rewati: do you have a wired connection?
[20:14] <dcm-> how i translate kubuntu 6.06.1 to pt_BR?
[20:14] <sh4rm4> no, so there are this 4 dots indicating a user mode instead of an op icon
[20:14] <rewati> ya right now i am using it
[20:14] <jhutchins> dennister: Thousands of people using k3b would say it's not likely.  Hardware failure is much more likely.
[20:14] <icanhasadmin> So I completely screwed my kubuntu install.. it won't boot now. Last thing I did was change my video drivers from the open source Radeon flgrx to the open source Radeon vesa. Any suggestions?
[20:14] <rewati> tekteen ya right now i am using it
[20:15] <tekteen> rewati: it it eth0?
[20:15] <dennister> yeah...never had any probs with k3b before :(
[20:15] <jhutchins> icanhasadmin: Boot to runlevel 3 and fix it.
[20:15] <rewati> tekteen yes it is eth0
[20:15] <jhutchins> icanhasadmin: Oh, that's right, kubuntu doesn't need runlevels.
[20:15] <tekteen> rewati: pastbin the output of ifconfig
[20:15] <jhutchins> icanhasadmin: Guess you'll have to use rescue mode.
[20:15] <jhutchins> icanhasadmin: Fun nic btw.
[20:15] <tekteen> pastebin*
[20:16] <icanhasadmin> jhutchins: thanks, rescue mode is tty... can you point me towards a command that might let me switch it back or diag the problem?
[20:16] <jhutchins> startx
[20:16] <icanhasadmin> uhm.. oh
[20:16] <jhutchins> just raw X is good for testing too, eliminates distractions of loading kde.
[20:16] <jhutchins> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to exit.
[20:16] <rewati> tekteen http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58162/
[20:16] <icanhasadmin> i feel stupid. i assumed that would do the same thing?... wait... hm, yep i'm an idiot.
[20:17] <icanhasadmin> so "startx" or "raw x".. or "rawx"?
[20:17] <tekteen> ok
[20:17] <jhutchins> Remember normally you're running the display manger (kdm), which you're bypassing this way.
[20:17] <jhutchins> for just plain X the command is X - uppercase, all by itself.
[20:18] <jhutchins> All you get is blank desktop and mouse.
[20:18] <tekteen> rewati, put this in your /etc/network/interfaces http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58164/
[20:18] <icanhasadmin> i see. i also have gnome installed, does that make a differnece?
[20:18] <jhutchins> startx will look at your preferences and start kde.
[20:18] <BluesKaj> intelikey:  try easyBCD for setting up a dual boot vista and linux http://ph.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080218102009AANEicn
[20:18] <jhutchins> icanhasadmin: Shouldn't.
[20:19] <dushara> Hi does anyone have any i18n experience?
[20:20] <icanhasadmin> ok.. so when i "startx".. what x window system will load? just some failsafe one?
[20:20] <tekteen> dushara: is that changing keyboards?
[20:20] <tekteen> to the international one?
[20:20] <dushara> internationalisation...
[20:20] <tekteen> rewati: did you do that?
[20:21] <tekteen> dushara: what do you need? if someone knows how they will answer
[20:21] <dushara> yes. But I'm interested in getting IIIMF going.
[20:22] <icanhasadmin> ok wish me luck
[20:22] <tekteen> dushara: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InputMethods
[20:22] <dennister> ok, here's the real prob: want to install kubuntu on emachines pc; it has one of those hidden recovery partitions at the end of the drive, and if I overwrite the mbr, I'll lose access to that recovery partition...any ideas as to what to do, besides backing up current mbr?
[20:23] <dushara> Thanks. I'll have a look at the fedora link (didn't notice that before :-) )
[20:24] <tekteen> dennister: you could leave it there
[20:24] <tekteen> dennister: or back it up
[20:25] <tekteen> dennister: do you have another hd to back it up to?
[20:25] <tekteen> dennister: or do you want to leave it tere?
[20:25] <dennister> tekteen: of course, but installing kubuntu will mean installing a new mbr if i want it to dual boot
[20:26] <tekteen> dennister: kubuntu is smart
[20:26] <tekteen> it knows how to start your recovery OS
[20:26] <dennister> i know that...been working with it for 2.5 years
[20:26] <tekteen> dennister: what is the problem?
[20:26] <BluesKaj> dennister:  isn't there an option to copy the recovery partition to dvd and use that instead of the HDD ?
[20:27] <BluesKaj> or only an option to boot into the recovery
[20:27] <BluesKaj> ?
[20:27] <chidam> tekteen:i'm getting a msg like unable to lock admin directory,is another process using it.I was trying to install vlc then..
[20:28] <tekteen> !adeptfix
[20:28] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:28] <dennister> don't think so...the point is that these recovery partitions are linked to the mbr (which is now windblows-only); by installing kubuntu i overwrite mbr to dual boot with grub...restoring original mbr would restore access to recovery partition, but destroy access to kubuntu
[20:28] <dattl> hi
[20:28] <siraj> hello
[20:28] <dattl> is here anyone german online?
[20:29] <dattl> lol - i hacked <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[20:29] <x89x> anyone know how to change the refresh rate using xorg.conf ??
[20:29] <chidam> thank u ubotu.its working
[20:29] <tekteen> !de
[20:29] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:29] <icanhasadmin> Ok, "x" did nothing, "startx" gave me a fatal error, no screens found.
[20:30] <dennister> BluesKaj: i don't think there's any option to do anything else...u know winblows and these hidden recovery partitions...they don't think you'll ever want anything but winblows
[20:30] <BluesKaj> dennister:  obviously trying Super Grub disk doesn't help
[20:30] <tekteen> ubotu is a bot
[20:30] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[20:30] <Antkin> siraj Welcome, do you have a problem?
[20:30] <alec> hey i need kubunto help i jsut installed it
[20:30] <siraj> yes
[20:30] <tekteen> !ask|alec
[20:30] <ubotu> alec: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:30] <dennister> BluesKaj: downloaded it, tried burning it 6 times to 3 different cdrw disks...always a problem with track 1
[20:31] <alec> cant run video files
[20:31] <x89x> jussi01 : know how to edit the xorg ?
[20:31] <icanhasadmin> alec: install restricted drivers
[20:31] <alec> and having a hard time downloading anything
[20:31] <alec> how?
[20:31] <chidam> sorry didnt know that,anyway nothing wrong in thanking a bot either
[20:31] <Antkin> siraj Please give some details
[20:31] <tekteen> chidam: np :-D
[20:31] <siraj> how do u down load loime wire on kubuntu
[20:31] <dennister> with gentoo's superrescuecd I did find out partition table, finally, hda-1, hda1 (windows) and hda-1, the actual recovery partition
[20:31] <siraj> limewire*
[20:32] <alec> i have no idea what im doing, new to linux
[20:32] <tekteen> siraj: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/general-linux-support/39850-how-install-limewire-ubuntu-debian.html
[20:32] <icanhasadmin> alec: you may want to do some research first. the answer to your question is relatively simple but you're going to run into many other issues without some reading
[20:33] <siraj> yes
[20:33] <siraj>  <tekteen>
[20:33] <dattl> someone knows how i can get my girl back?
[20:33] <alec> any recomendations on sites?
[20:33] <icanhasadmin> So yeah, I booted into my recovery console... "x" did nothing, "startx" crashed, fatal error, "no screens". any ideas?
[20:33] <tekteen> alec: linux.org
[20:33] <alec> thanks alot
[20:33] <chidam> alec:i'm a newto kubuntu  too,i'm downloading vlc for videos ,y dont u try that?
[20:33] <tekteen> alec: you just need to play around with it
[20:34] <rewati> tekteen i got my wireless workin
[20:34] <alec> i tried vlc. cant download it
[20:34] <tekteen> alec: I would suggest installing firefox (which you may know of)
[20:34] <tekteen> rewati: cool
[20:34] <rewati> tekteen thanks
[20:34] <alec> i tried that too. cant
[20:35] <x89x> virtualstation can run any windows application !!
[20:35] <tekteen> rewati: np
[20:35] <Antkin> alec have you been to kubuntu forums Help the new guy?
[20:35] <siraj> yo tekteen how do you download limewire with kubutu
[20:35] <alec> no
[20:35] <burhan> slm
[20:35] <burhan> hello
[20:35] <burhan> i got a question
[20:36] <burhan> may anyone help?
[20:36] <siraj> wat damn it
[20:36] <robotgeek> alec: why cant you download it using adept?
[20:36] <Antkin> alec more than worth the visit for newbies
[20:36] <rewati> tekteen one more problem my sound is not workin
[20:36] <robotgeek> burhan: sure, ask away
[20:36] <tekteen> siraj: I pointed you to a forum with an answer <http://www.gnutellaforums.com/general-linux-support/39850-how-install-limewire-ubuntu-debian.html>
[20:36] <jussi01> !ask | burhan
[20:36] <ubotu> burhan: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:36] <alec> adept?
[20:36] <tekteen> !soundrewati
[20:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundrewati - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:36] <tekteen> !sound|rewati
[20:36] <ubotu> rewati: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:36] <Antkin> burhan Welcome what is your question?
[20:36] <siraj> thanks tekteen
[20:37] <tekteen> siraj: np
[20:37] <chidam> alec:SYSTEM>ADEPT PACKET MANAGER
[20:37] <jussi01> Is anyone familiar with tv apps on linux? Im looking for an alternative to tv time/xawtv
[20:37] <robotgeek> alec: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/add-applications/C/index.html
[20:37] <burhan> !ask does it matter if I upgrade my system with terminal or gui?
[20:37] <tekteen> jussi01: mythtv?
[20:37] <burhan> does it matter if I upgrade my system with terminal or gui?
[20:37] <robotgeek> burhan: no, it does not. depends on what you are comfortable with
[20:38] <jussi01> tekteen: hehe, the obviousone I overlooked :D
[20:38] <tekteen> burhan: nope
[20:38] <Antkin> Burham I use KDE it's one of the best GUI's
[20:38] <burhan> does anyone know a guide to tweak my kubuntu?
[20:38] <robotgeek> jussi01: i use both tvtime and mythtv; i just prefer tvtime, it is easier :)
[20:39] <robotgeek> jussi01: i think kde also has an kdetv app
[20:39] <jussi01> robotgeek: thanks. I cant seem to get sound out of tv time, perhaps Im missing something?
[20:39] <burhan> and a list a respositories for 7.10
[20:39] <jussi01> !nickspam > anto__
[20:40] <tekteen> burhan: a list of which repos?
 oui ?
[20:40] <tekteen> burhan: the default ones?
[20:40] <burhan> no, additional list
[20:40] <robotgeek> jussi01: you can play sound normally?
[20:40] <jussi01> robotgeek: correct
[20:40] <tekteen> burhan: have you heard of medibuntu?
[20:41] <jussi01> anto__: please read the private message from ubotu
[20:41] <tekteen> !medibuntu > burhan
[20:41] <burhan> no, ill search
[20:41] <robotgeek> jussi01: okay, is your line-in muted?
[20:41] <alec> if i jsut searched for restricted drivers in adept. and downloaded. what have i done?
[20:41] <jussi01> robotgeek: Im pretty sureIve got everything up, Ill just check one moment
[20:41] <tekteen> burhan: also there is one for wine
[20:41] <burhan> thank you tekteen
[20:41] <tekteen> np
[20:42] <maxym> !fr
[20:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:43] <chidam> tekteen:i installed vlc player,but videofiles not working,all i can see are bars
[20:43] <tekteen> chidam: the problem might be with the video
[20:43] <tekteen> chidam: not the player
[20:43] <chidam> i tried many files,none seem to play...
[20:44] <tekteen> chidam: that is odd
[20:44] <tekteen> try to install w32codecs
[20:44] <tekteen> !w32codecs | chidam
[20:44] <ubotu> chidam: The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[20:44] <burhan> which is the fastest and lightweight web browser for kubuntu?
[20:44] <chidam> ok,i'll try it
[20:45] <tekteen> burhan: konqueror is good
[20:45] <tekteen> when it comes to speed
[20:45] <siraj>  <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:45] <jussi01> robotgeek: I think the line goes something like this: Dear sir, your son is an idiot :P (I only had svideo connected...)
[20:45] <robotgeek> jussi01: i've been through there myself :)
[20:45] <jussi01> robotgeek: thanks :D
[20:50] <Gabe__> howdy folks... have a quick question about Belkin 54g USB
[20:50] <robotgeek> Gabe__: ask away
[20:50] <Gabe__> it was working fine until a couple of days ago, and now I can't actually use it... how can I remove/reinstall?
[20:50] <rewati> tekteen V
[20:51] <rewati> tekteen
[20:51] <rewati> Audio output unavailable; the device is busy.
[20:51] <rewati> xine parameters:
[20:51] <rewati> amarok is giving this error
[20:51] <tekteen> rewati: did it ever work?
[20:51] <rewati> tekteen no
[20:51] <tekteen> rewati: I do not know much about sound. sorry
[20:53] <robotgeek> Gabe__: did you have to install any special drivers or did it work out of the box?
[20:53] <Gabe__> out of the box initially...
[20:53] <robotgeek> Gabe__: in a terminal, if you type "lsusb", do you see the card there?
[20:54] <Gabe__> dl'd windows drivers to use with ndiswrapper... lemme check... it's booting right now
[20:55] <robotgeek> Gabe__: i was wondering about that, when you said "out of the box", i though you meant plug and play.
[20:55] <Gabe__> yeah...
[20:56] <Gabe__> well, i didn't install the ndiswrapper or windows drivers... it was plug and play but when it wouldn't show any wireless networks in knetwork manager I started looking into other solutions.
[20:56] <Gabe__> it is listed in lsusb
[20:56] <Gabe__> iwconfig lists it as RT73 WLAN
[20:57] <x89xx> how do i start virtualbox that i jsut installed ?? lol
[20:58] <jhutchins> x89xx: Have you considered reading the f(ine) manual?
[20:59] <alec> how do i access administration in kubunto?
[20:59] <robotgeek> x89xx: System -> Innotek Virtual Box
[21:00] <robotgeek> alec: Application Menu -> Settings
[21:00] <robotgeek> Gabe__: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[21:00] <alec> uh. not sure?
[21:00] <Gabe__> 7.10
[21:01] <alec> i believe so
[21:01] <alec> im a linux virgin
[21:02] <Gabe__> wish Kubuntu had a simple add/remove hardware wizard like windows
[21:02] <robotgeek> Gabe__: oh, you just unplug it. also remove the ndiswrapper file, i think
[21:03] <tekteen> Gabe__: except it actually installs programs
[21:03] <tekteen> Gabe__: not just remove
[21:03] <Gabe__> ndiswrapper isn't loaded...
[21:03] <robotgeek> Gabe__: I think you are victim of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/134660
[21:04] <robotgeek> Gabe__: i dont understand why it stopped working though, maybe a kernel update or so
[21:04] <Gabe__> I think that's probably what did it because I did lose functionality after running update through adept.
[21:05] <alec> waht happens if i disable a restricted driver?/
[21:05] <robotgeek> Gabe__: just follow what you did the first time :)
[21:06] <Gabe__> well, there's a slight problem with that... don't have a wired connection to fall back on... my neighbor is letting me use his connection over wireless.
[21:07] <Gabe__> there a simple way to roll back to earlier kernel without breaking everything else?
[21:07] <robotgeek> Gabe__: when you boot, grub probably has a menu
[21:07] <robotgeek> Gabe__: just pick the older one
[21:07] <Gabe__> only shows current kernel and the rescue mode kernel.
[21:08] <Antkin> alec I started with Linux in 1999 Please do not be afraid to ask your questions we were all newbies once
[21:08] <foibles> is it possible to format a non-depedent partition while logged on?
[21:08] <foibles> im going to format my windows partition
[21:08] <foibles> because i don't use it anymore
[21:08] <alec> thanks
[21:08] <dattl> how can i use my second windows.data-partition for linux?
[21:08] <robotgeek> Gabe__: well, maybe then it was not a kernel update.
[21:09] <dattl> mount -o doesnt work ...
[21:09] <alec> am i helping myself any downloading upgrades in adept?
[21:09] <robotgeek> !ntfs
[21:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[21:09] <robotgeek> dattl: ^^
[21:09] <alec> and in downloading restricted drivers. how do i do that?
[21:10] <x89x> when i press ctrl + shift + F1 what happens ?? anyone
[21:10] <dattl> thx robotgeek but ntfs! what? ntfs! sda5 ?
[21:10] <robotgeek> alec: which drivers do you need and why?
[21:10] <BluesKaj> what's the command to make a folder into a bootable image file with growisofs ?
[21:10] <robotgeek> dattl: you said you wanted to access windows partitions, right?
[21:11] <dattl> i deletet my windows on c: and want my data on d: to be accessable
[21:11] <jussi01> robotgeek: you still around? Im getting the top of the image displayed at the bottom of the screen. you seent his before?
[21:11] <robotgeek> jussi01: wow. that's messed up
[21:11] <chidam> what is a dcc chat?
[21:11] <alec> i dont know specifically which.
[21:12] <x89x> juss01 : when i press ctrl + shift + F1
[21:12] <x89x> what happens ?
[21:12] <alec> but im having trouble downloading stuff. like firefox for example
[21:12] <dattl> robotgeek: yes aour were right but how?
[21:12] <xxBasYxx> hi, i have clean minimal ubuntu install without any xsystem. i would like to install kubuntu but with KDE 4. xxx not defaut kubuntu KDE 3.5, where can i found list of packages tat i need to install ?
[21:12] <Gabe__> ok... trying to build cvs driver and install that...but make says module file much too big (>1MB) check your kernel settings or use 'strip'
[21:13] <Gabe__> says it was built successfully though.
[21:13] <alec> and stuff keeps crashing on me. adept jsut did and konquerer
[21:13] <Gabe__> now what?
[21:14] <robotgeek> dattl: you have to identify which drive maps where (for example, c: might be /dev/hda1 and d: might be /dev/hda2) or so
[21:14] <robotgeek> dattl: you might be able to use qtparted to tell you that
[21:14] <x89x> whats ctrl + alt + F1 for ???/
[21:15] <robotgeek> x89x: to switch to a console
[21:15] <dattl> robotgeek: i know that it is sda5 with 80gb
[21:15] <dattl> but i still cant
[21:15] <dattl> use it to access windows
[21:15] <robotgeek> dattl: access windows?
[21:15] <dattl> i mean ntfs
[21:15] <robotgeek> okay.
[21:15] <dattl> ... ;)
[21:16] <robotgeek> dattl: lemme look in my fstab
[21:16] <dattl> whe i use my kubuntu browser it shows just bullshit
[21:16] <alucardromero> Ticket #2454353: Kubuntu browser shows bullshit.
[21:16] <alec> any advise on restricted drivers
[21:17] <alec> and adept crashing
[21:17] <robotgeek> dattl: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/hardware/C/harddrives.html#mount-unmount-windows-partitions
[21:17] <dattl> thx <alucardromero>  youve got the context
[21:17] <x89x> how do i ecit that console robotgeek >
[21:17] <dattl> i see you are tight
[21:17] <alucardromero> :P
[21:17] <dattl> ty robot
[21:17] <robotgeek> x89x: hit crtl + alt + f7
[21:18] <robotgeek> also try ctrl + alt + f8 :)
[21:18] <nosrednaekim> alec» number one....don't use adept
[21:18] <alec> ok.
[21:18] <alec> what should i use
[21:19] <jussi01> robotgeek: if you are interested to see: http://imagebin.eu/pics/f5c1ccdbf70b62c2ad02f328ff647964.png
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> alec» use apt-get or synaptic and for restricted drivers use the restricted-manager-kde
[21:20] <x89x> do 3D drivers work on fiesty ???
[21:20] <x89x> openchrome 3d drivers
[21:20] <robotgeek> jussi01: okay, i see what you mean
[21:21] <jussi01> kinda frustrating
[21:21] <alec> do i have those things
[21:21] <nosrednaekim> x89x» good luck with that..never could get it working
[21:22] <tekteen> x89x I only got 3D drivers working once
[21:22] <tekteen> for ati
[21:22] <tekteen> and I can not do it again :-)
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> via is like 100 times worse
[21:23] <chidam> tekteen:i installed w32codecs,i got the videos running,but once i rebooted the system i'm seeing the bars again
[21:23] <robotgeek> jussi01: i don't have any idea why that is happening, maybe ask the tvtime folks?
[21:23] <tekteen> chidam: that is odd
[21:23] <x89x> nosrednaekim : could you get the 2d to work ??
[21:24] <jussi01> robotgeek: do they have an IRC channel?
[21:24] <tekteen> I have no idea
[21:24] <Gabe__> ok... making some progress... I just compiled/installed/loaded the new rt73 driver
[21:24] <nosrednaekim> x89x» I forget...
[21:24] <chidam> tekteen:i chked if the w32codecs are installed,they were...
[21:24] <nosrednaekim> i'm just using vesa right now :) (not this machine)
[21:24] <tekteen> chidam: try reinstalling them
[21:25] <chidam> ok
[21:25] <Gabe__> now I can use the iwlist wlan0 scan command and I see three wireless networks....
[21:25] <x89x> nosrednaekim : well i got 2d to work but i cant get to change the resoultion :)
[21:25] <x89x> :(
[21:25] <robotgeek> jussi01: /j #tvtime
[21:25] <Gabe__> but knetwork manager still doesn't want to show me any wireless connections at all.
[21:25] <nosrednaekim> x89x» hah.... I think that was my problem too come to think of it.... hence using vesa
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> Gabe__» remove all lines refering to wlan0 from /etc/netowork/interfaces
[21:26] <alec> how do use apt?
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> !network
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> *netowkr
[21:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:26] <mikademus> Hi folks. Am sitting with my shiny new Kubuntu install for the very first time and enjoying the ride. Seems like it might replace my WinXP system. With Vista I got the irrestable urge to join the bright side...
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> *network
[21:26] <alec> and restricted manager kde
[21:26] <x89x> nosrednaekim : Can you change the refresh rate in vesa ??
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> x89x» AFAIK, yes
[21:26] <robotgeek> alec: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/add-applications/C/apt.html
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> alec» the restricted-manager-kde is in system settings->advanced
[21:26] <tekteen> alec: you can use adept instead off apt
[21:27] <jussi01> robotgeek: never mind. it isnt tv times fault. /me curses the vcr
[21:27] <tekteen> !apt|alec
[21:27] <ubotu> alec: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[21:27] <robotgeek> alec: the restricted manager will show oyu if it has any restricted drivers that it can use.
[21:27] <robotgeek> jussi01: heh.
[21:27] <alec> how do i get into apt
[21:27] <alec> do i have it?
[21:27] <tekteen> alec: yes you have it
[21:27] <alec> someone told me not to use adept
[21:27] <tekteen> me
[21:28] <mikademus> Anyway, since I'm new, I hope I could get some help. I'm trying to build the Kooldock KDE add-on, but getting some errors. Someone with any experience of this app?
[21:28] <tekteen> alec: adept is an easy frontend
[21:28] <Gabe__> AWSOME!!!!
[21:28] <tekteen> !adept | alec
[21:28] <ubotu> alec: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[21:28] <robotgeek> mikademus: did it ./configure correctly?
[21:28] <Gabe__> working much better now..
[21:28] <alec> easy front end?//
[21:28] <robotgeek> Gabe__: awesome :)
[21:28] <Arwen> alec, APT (advanced packaging tool) is the backend to a variety of package managers (of which, one is adept)
[21:28] <Arwen> now, whether or not you like Adept...
[21:28] <alec> i see
[21:28] <tekteen> alec: it has a gui interface
[21:28] <mikademus> robotgeek: no, that's the step that failed
[21:29] <Arwen> I recommend using Synaptic, but it's up to you to find what works
[21:29] <tekteen> !apt|alec
[21:29] <ubotu> alec: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[21:29] <robotgeek> mikademus: what does it tell you? please use a !pastebin
[21:29] <tekteen> this will tell you how to use apt
[21:30] <Gabe__> guess I'll try a reboot on the box and make sure everything works....
[21:30] <alec> i dont know how to get into apt.
[21:30] <tekteen> alec: apt is a command line tool
[21:30] <tekteen> alec: you need to open a konsole and use it as a command
[21:30] <alec> i dont know that i know how to do any of that
[21:30] <tekteen> or use adept
[21:30] <mikademus> Sorry, don't know what a !pastebin is, I'm a Linux newb and a bit of an IRC boob, but the error was "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[21:30] <alec> i cant open adept it crashes
[21:31] <tekteen> ok
[21:31] <nosrednaekim> mikademus» "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[21:31] <alec> and how do i open a console
[21:31] <mikademus> nosrednaekim: thnx,brb
[21:31] <nosrednaekim> mikademus» you can also grab kooldock very easily with "sudo apt-get install kooldock"
[21:31] <tekteen> alec: go to the K (start) menu > system > konsole
[21:31] <chidam> tekteen:no luck,reinstalled vlc,w32codes,what should i do?
[21:31] <alec> ok
[21:32] <tekteen> chidam: try it in kaffiene again
[21:32] <chidam> same bars there too
[21:32] <chidam> tekteen:same bars there too
[21:32] <tekteen> I do not know
[21:32] <alec> this may be useless, i dont know  a thing about this comand line business
[21:33] <Arwen> alec, I suggest you try to learn some of it (on your own time). There's really nothing wrong with adept though.
[21:33] <tekteen> alec: you will only learn if you try
[21:33] <tekteen> !cli
[21:33] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[21:34] <Gabe__> no good after a reboot...
[21:34] <mikademus> nosrednaekim: ok, that sounds like an easier path, but I think the atp package is a bit dated, though
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> !info kooldock
[21:34] <ubotu> kooldock (source: kooldock): Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 523 kB, installed size 980 kB
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> .3 ?
[21:35] <burhan> hi ppl
[21:35] <mikademus> Seems like 0.4.7 is the latest according to the homepage
[21:35] <tekteen> burhan: hi
[21:35] <burhan> i need a really extensive repository
[21:35] <robotgeek> mikademus: you can probably also do a "sudo apt-get build-dep kooldock", which should give you most of the stuff you need
[21:35] <DexterF> !ntp
[21:35] <ubotu> Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[21:35] <burhan> which includes everything possible
[21:35] <tekteen> burhan: the ubuntu one is the most extensive
[21:36] <x89x> anyone when i use virtualbox, i have to specify a virtual hard disk. cannot the virtual disk be on an anotehr location than HOME ?? I want to choose another drive
[21:36] <tekteen> burhan: others each have one or two packages
[21:36] <tekteen> burhan: like the wine repo
[21:36] <Gabe__> gonna take a break from this... I'm too frustrated.
[21:36] <adz21c> x89x: yea i can't see why not, as long as u have write access
[21:36] <tekteen> burhan: medibuntu is the most extensive one that is not ubuntu
[21:36] <robotgeek> Gabe__: drink some coffee, smoke a ciggarette and get back at it :)
[21:36] <x89x> adz21c : they are NTFS drives
[21:37] <mikademus> Hmm, is the error "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" related to me mistyping the root pswd?
[21:37] <robotgeek> mikademus: no, it means you probably have adept or something running
[21:37] <ubuntu__> list
[21:37] <chidam> hi ppl,i'm not able to view videos,i'm only seeing bars in my players(vlc,kafeinne),but sound is ok,wat shld i do?
[21:37] <adz21c> x89x: that might be a problem just cos of permission not working there so running stuff from there is touchy
[21:37] <mikademus> Just like to say that I'm grateful for helping a n3wblar out, hoping I'm not trying your patience
[21:37] <nosrednaekim> chidam» I think jussi01 is havin the same problem
[21:38] <robotgeek> mikademus: this is a help channel. that's what we do, help :)
[21:38] <nosrednaekim> mikademus» don't worry about it :)
[21:38] <chidam> and i've installed w32codecs
[21:38] <mikademus> I am still grateful :)
[21:38] <robotgeek> chidam: can we try playing the video?
[21:38] <tekteen> and it worked for chidam until he rebooted
[21:38] <chidam> ya
[21:38] <x89x> how do i get NTFS wriote access in UBUNTU ???
[21:38] <chidam> robotgeek:ya
[21:39] <robotgeek> !ntfs > x89x
[21:39] <x89x> nothing came up robotgeek
[21:39] <icanhasadmin> why is xgl such crap?
[21:39] <chidam> jussi01:hi,did u have problems playing ur vidoes?
[21:39] <joh6nn> when i'm using screen, bash color codes seem to be ignored.  googling indicates this is probably due to a lack of termcap info for screen.  anyone know how i can fix this?
[21:39] <jussi01> chidam: no. i had some tvtime issues.
[21:39] <mikademus> Ah, it seems it might have been the x libs that were missing when doing the ./configure
[21:40] <robotgeek> x89x: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/hardware/C/harddrives.html#mount-unmount-windows-partitions
[21:40] <chidam> jussi01:ok,sorry for bothering u
[21:40] <Antkin> Hello
[21:40] <jussi01> !ntfs-3g > x89x
[21:40] <robotgeek> joh6nn: what terminal program are you using?
[21:40] <nosrednaekim> jussi01» whoops... wrong person :)
[21:40] <icanhasadmin> is fglrx a reasonable alternative to xgl or should i be looking elsewhere?
[21:40] <joh6nn> robotgeek: konsole, TERM=xterm
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin» the later fglrx releases are, yes not the one in the repositories though
[21:41] <icanhasadmin> lets assume i'd like to try the ones in the repositories, how do i tell ubuntu to use them after installed? do i have to edit something?
[21:41] <robotgeek> joh6nn: oh okay. the reason i asked is , i just got a similiar message using urxvt and screen.
[21:41] <robotgeek> i never got that message before though
[21:41] <dattl> hey robogeek you are really tight! btw
[21:41] <joh6nn> heh
[21:42] <joh6nn> robotgeek: screen used to work fine for me; i know it worked in 7.04
[21:42] <robotgeek> joh6nn: well, i guess we now have two problems instead of one, lol
[21:42] <mikademus> ls
[21:42] <robotgeek> joh6nn: it still works fine for me, except the one error for missing the color "pink"
[21:42]  * robotgeek wonders
[21:43] <joh6nn> robotgeek: heh.  i don't get any colors at all
[21:43] <chidam> tekteen:i dont what could possibly go wrong when rebooting!!!
[21:43] <joh6nn> i have to manually set TERM to something else in order to get colors
[21:43] <joh6nn> but then i don't get the other xterm behaviors i want
[21:43] <robotgeek> did you try xterm-color?
[21:43] <Antkin> joh6nn Do you have a question?
[21:43] <joh6nn> robotgeek: yeah, i did
[21:44] <mikademus> Wow, hey, look at that config script go! /me is happy camper with illusory feeling of control :P
[21:44] <robotgeek> mikademus: sweet. have fun, and build safe!
[21:44] <Trondern> i dont know if i curse in church here but its easy to get gnome on kubuntu i guess ^^
[21:44] <joh6nn> Antkin: when i'm using screen, bash color codes seem to be ignored.  googling indicates this is probably due to a lack of termcap info for screen.  i'm trying to find out how to fix this
[21:44] <chidam> hi pplcan anyone help me,i'm not able to view videos,i'm only seeing bars in my players(vlc,kafeinne),but sound is ok,wat shld i do?
[21:44] <burhan> is there any gui software to configure everything in my kubuntu?
[21:45] <robotgeek> chidam: i asked if you could link to the video, if possible?
[21:45] <joh6nn> burhan: what are you trying to configure?
[21:45] <burhan> something like windows control panel
[21:45] <burhan> im searching for
[21:45] <tekteen> burhan: system settings
[21:45] <joh6nn> burhan: in the K menu, you want the System Settings icon
[21:45] <burhan> i know it but i want something more extensive
[21:46] <joh6nn> burhan: that's all there is
[21:46] <chidam> robotgeek:no,the video is in my harddisk,plus i'm not able to play anyvideos at all
[21:46] <burhan> oh i c
[21:46] <robotgeek> chidam: oh okay.
[21:47] <icanhasadmin> This is very odd. I set ubuntu to use open source Radeon drivers in and when I reboot XGL is still running, what gives?
[21:47] <burhan> how about theme managers? which one do you advice?
[21:47] <chidam> and i installed vlc player and w32codecs on tekteen's suggestion
[21:47] <joh6nn> burhan: i don't use any
[21:47] <chidam> but after i rebooted i couldnt see them again
[21:47] <tekteen> !themes
[21:47] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[21:48] <burhan> thank you joh6nn
[21:48] <joh6nn> ; )
[21:48] <tekteen> burhan: listen to ubotu
[21:48] <joh6nn> i think you meant to thank tekteen, though
[21:48] <tekteen> ubotu is smart
[21:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is smart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:49] <tekteen> nm XD
[21:49] <chidam> robotgeek:and i installed vlc player and w32codecs on tekteen's suggestion,things worked fine,but once i rebooted,i started seeing bars again
[21:49] <robotgeek> chidam: how about libxine-extracodecs ? have you installed that?
[21:49] <icanhasadmin> uboutu fglrx
[21:49] <icanhasadmin> ubotu fglrx
[21:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:49] <chidam> robotgeek:nope
[21:50] <robotgeek> chidam: i think that is the only thing i have installed.
[21:50] <tekteen> libxine1-ffmpeg not libxine-extracodecs
[21:50] <chidam> ok,i'll try them and get back to u guys....
[21:50] <robotgeek> thanks tekteen :)
[21:51] <tekteen> robotgeek: np
[21:52] <joh6nn> robotgeek: you said you're seeing an error message about pink?
[21:52] <Gabe__> robotgeek:  followed thru the readme in the rt73 driver source and have wlan0 associated with my network, have the key, etc...
[21:53] <Gabe__> how do I actually connect from commandline?
[21:53] <Antkin> joh6nn Have you posted your problem on the Kubuntu forums?
[21:53] <chidam> robotgeek,tekteen:ffmpeg is installed
[21:54] <icanhasadmin> Ok now i'm confused. What command would I use to find out what video drivers i'm currently utilizing?
[21:55] <chidam> robotgeek:interesting thing is if i install libxine extracodes,ffmpeg gets removed...
[21:55] <robotgeek> joh6nn: yes
[21:55] <joh6nn> robotgeek: PM the error to me?
[21:55] <robotgeek> sure
[21:56] <robotgeek> joh6nn: how interesting, i dont see it anymore, lol
[21:56] <joh6nn> heh
[21:56] <burhan> i need something like limewire
[21:56] <burhan> do you know any?
[21:56] <chidam> tekteen:ffmpeg is installed,but no change
[21:56] <joh6nn> burhan: apollo
[21:56] <chidam> robotgeek:ffmpeg is installed,but no change
[21:56] <burhan> where can i get it
[21:57] <robotgeek> chidam: i am not on my normal install of kubuntu, i think i might be useless here
[21:57] <chidam> robotgeek:ok,thanks for the help :)
[21:58] <robotgeek> !frostwire > burhan
[21:58] <tekteen> chidam: I do not not know what to do. sorry
[21:58] <robotgeek> burhan: i use gtk-gnutella from time to time though
[21:58] <chidam> tekteen:np,thanks for the help :)
[21:58] <nosrednaekim> heh... i'm here from dapper.... such darkages :)
[21:59] <robotgeek> nosrednaekim: i think i am on gutsy on my other install, but i am not sure, lol
[21:59] <chidam> tekteen:btw,as u said ubotu is vry smart,wonder how they programmed it so....
[21:59] <nosrednaekim> you probably are... this release is almost 2 years old.
[22:00] <nixternal> burhan: frostwire too, it is exactly like limewire
[22:00] <tekteen> chidam: you did not see what happend after it
[22:00] <burhan> which is the best
[22:00] <burhan> ?
[22:00] <tekteen> ubotu is smart
[22:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is smart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:00] <tekteen> chidam: that is what is funny ^
[22:00] <icanhasadmin> ubotu relationships
[22:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about relationships - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:01] <icanhasadmin> :P
[22:01] <chidam> tekteen:lol yeah
[22:01] <nixternal> burhan: personel preference really, but if you are familiar with limewire, then frostwire will be right up your alley
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> !love
[22:01] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[22:01] <icanhasadmin> th lulz
[22:01] <robotgeek> chidam: on another note, do you use compiz or anything similiar?
[22:02] <chidam> robotgeek:nope
[22:02] <tekteen> !life
[22:02] <ubotu> life is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:02] <chidam> !George Bush
[22:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about george bush - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:02] <burhan> how can i install apollon
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> !info apollon
[22:02] <robotgeek> chidam: okay, that does happen from time to time. running compiz meses up video. well, just a thought
[22:02] <ubotu> apollon (source: apollon): KDE-based interface to the giFT file-sharing system. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-2 (gutsy), package size 442 kB, installed size 1664 kB
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> chidam: "sudo apt-get install apollon"
[22:03] <burhan> thanks
[22:04] <mikademus> nosrednaekim, robotgeek, everything worked and I feel I learned a little something to boot. Thanks for the help!
[22:04] <robotgeek> nixternal: i've been messing with ubuntu studio , so that i can suggest a few alternatives to my friends who are active video uploaders. so far, so good
[22:04] <icanhasadmin> !hal
[22:04] <ubotu> For an informative description of the Hardware Abstraction Layer , go to this site : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_abstraction_layer
[22:05] <chidam> nosrednaekim:hi,can u help me,i'm not able to view videos,i'm only seeing bars in my players(vlc,kafeinne),but sound is ok,wat shld i do?
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> mikademus: you are welcome :)
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> ChaosMachine: affraid I can't... what video drivers are you using?
[22:07] <chidam> nosrednaekim:liddvdcss2
[22:08] <nosrednaekim> chidam: I mean for your graphics card
[22:08] <Gabe__> thx for the help folks... need sleep... bye!
[22:08] <Erickj92> how do i make it so i can install GNOME games on kubuntu?
[22:08] <chidam> nosrednaekim:oh,i'm using ati radeon xpress200
[22:08] <nosrednaekim> chidam: with the fglrx drivers?
[22:09] <nosrednaekim> Erickj92: you can by default... just grab them
[22:09] <Erickj92> how?
[22:09] <Erickj92> i tried to make the gnome games package, put it said it could not find python
[22:09] <chidam> nosrednaekim:sorry,i'm a newbie to linux,so i have no idea abt wat fglrx drivers are.....
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> Erickj92: compile it?
[22:10] <Erickj92> yes
[22:10] <Erickj92> i typed "make" and it didnt wor
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> chidam: did you install the drivers for your videocard? in restricted-manager?
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> Erickj92: don't compile them... get them from the repositories
[22:10] <chidam> nosrednaekim:no,how shld i do that
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> !info gnome-games
[22:11] <ubotu> gnome-games (source: gnome-games): games for the GNOME desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.20.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1514 kB, installed size 4004 kB
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> chidam: systemsettings->advanced->restricted-manager
[22:11] <Erickj92> so: sudo apt-get install gnome-games?
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> yes
[22:11] <Erickj92> ok, thanks
[22:11] <emilsedgh> what is the status of gnome games? they have good quality? i never tried
[22:12] <Erickj92> i love the same gnome game
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> Erickj92: always look in the repositories before trying to compile
[22:12] <Erickj92> it just lacks the feature of clear scores
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> emilsedgh: some are OK.... I prefer the kde ones though.
[22:12] <Erickj92> nosredaekim, just come in here and say: !info <packagenamehere>?
[22:13] <nosrednaekim> Erickj92: well, you can "apt-cache search <packagename>" from the command line which does the same thing
[22:13] <Erickj92> ok
[22:14] <chidam> nosrednaekim:thanks,i'm installing it now....
[22:14] <emilsedgh> nosrednaekim: do they have good quality as kde4 games?
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> emilsedgh: not as pretty :)
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> and nothing really original like kspaceduel (love that game)
[22:17] <emilsedgh> nosrednaekim: you have to try Kollision! its so fun, will come with 4.1
[22:18] <nosrednaekim> haven't tried it... is it like jazzball?
[22:18] <nosrednaekim> BRB... gotta get out of this stone-age dapper :)
[22:20] <xxBasYxx> how can share desktop on kubuntu computer and what i need to use to connesct that remote desktop, i am on kubuntu too?
[22:21] <sMonk> Hello.
[22:22] <Erickj92> hello sMonk
[22:22] <Antkin> Monk Welcome do you have a problem?
[22:23] <mikademus> Gotta say, in spite of my misgivings, I am enjoying my Kubuntu experience. It is relatively smooth sailing and quite painless. And it does look easthetically comparable to Vista. Am really looking forward to a stable KDE4.
[22:23] <sMonk> I'm having a problem playing videos. Every video player seems to be messed up and all players give me an error.  Hopefully KDE4.1 will be more user-friendly in July this year
[22:24] <Erickj92> how can you tell which KDE you have?
[22:24] <mikademus> Yeah, but what I got between the crashed was one extremely beatiful sytem
[22:24] <Antkin> Monk I use Kaffiene without any problems
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> Erickj92» click "help->about kde" in any kde app
[22:25] <spiroo> You look which version you download?
[22:25] <mikademus> Anyone who knows how to install Matisse?
[22:25] <sMonk> Kaffiene has a messed up display too
[22:25] <Erickj92> 3.5
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> mikademus» its no longer buggy, but its missing alot of features
[22:25] <Erickj92> heh
[22:25] <Erickj92> i hear KDE4 is good, but doesnt let you customize things enough
[22:25] <mikademus> I tried the Kub/KDE4 alpha, and it didn't go well with my system :(
[22:25] <sMonk> so does MPlayer
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> oh... well THATS buggy :)
[22:26] <mikademus> hehe, yeah, I noticed
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> Erickj92» just plasma... everything else is just as configurable
[22:26] <mikademus> but it looked extremely good
[22:26] <sMonk> yeah
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> i'm runing 4.0.1 right now  and have been for 3 months....rock olid
[22:26] <spiroo> the application menu does not look very well though :D
[22:26] <Erickj92> i love KDE. i cant stand GNOME
[22:27] <spiroo> No KDE4.0.1 is not solid/stable
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> spiroo» you can change it... there is a classicalmenu that no-one mentions for some reason
[22:27] <mikademus> Being new to Linux, but a poweruser in other system, I could't stand Gnome, felt claustrophibic in the extreme
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> is for me.. but I have heards report it not, so i'm not telling anyone to jump on it.
[22:27] <spiroo> okay, but I guess that menu does not fit into KDE4 does it not?
[22:27] <sMonk> I get: Cannot set locale  for VLC and : gnome_screensaver_control()  for MPlayer and Kaffiene is just a messed up video screen with no movie.. I get sound out of all 3
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> spiroo» it does... I can send you a screen shot if you'd like
[22:27] <mikademus> But the Mandriva was a very good distro, it detected and set up virtually all my hardware, which no other distro managed. But Gnome killed it for me
[22:28] <uboat> hello
[22:28] <spiroo> nosrednaekim: Just try desktop effects and you are screwed. My whole system failed.
[22:28] <Erickj92> GNOME is just to far away from anything ive seen. been on windows my whole life, and KDE is the closest ive seen to windows
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> spiroo» desktop effect are rock solid too :)
[22:28] <BluesKaj> no kde on mandriva ?
[22:28] <Antkin> Monk have you taken the advise on how to set up DVD in kaffiene it is on the forum
[22:28] <mikademus> Perhaps as an option, but installed as Gnome
[22:29] <spiroo> Not for me, when I changed settings, screen went black as the darkest shadow you ever seen.
[22:29] <mikademus> #-FF-FF-FF-FF?
[22:29] <spiroo> v4.0.2 is out soon btw.
[22:29] <Antkin> BluesKaj I have used Mandriva for three years what do you mean no KDE?
[22:30] <mikademus> So, anyway, anybody who knows who to install Matisse?
[22:30] <spiroo> I hope some apps are coming soon. You cannot do anything for the moment in KDE4. Except those boring little games :D
[22:30] <adz21c> Hi, for a while now I not been able to have a bootsplash screen (infact it gives me issues with the live cd for install) It was an on and off issue with feisty, but gutsy i can't at all. Is this a known issue? (Gutsy x64)
[22:30] <sMonk> Antkin:  This is a very new problem. I was watching videos not more than 3 days ago. I don't know what happend.. VLC player for instance started giving that error "Cannot set locale " but could still see the video, now nothing
[22:30] <adz21c> It just crashes my system at boot up
[22:31] <Antkin> Monk have you posted on Kubuntu software forum?
[22:31] <sMonk> Not as of yet. I just thought I'd try here first
[22:32] <Antkin> Monk first choice Kubuntu forum second chice IRC
[22:33] <spiroo> btw, does somebody know what the difference is from kde v3.5.8 -> kde v3.5.9
[22:33] <sMonk> Oh ok.
[22:33] <mikademus> Wow, a really nice suite of default apps installed with 7.10, I'm really likeing Amorak!
[22:33] <nosrednaekim> spiroo» for kubuntu, not much.
[22:33] <nosrednaekim> spiroo» mostly a better KDE PIM, but kubuntu already had it
[22:33] <spiroo> okay :P
[22:33] <nosrednaekim> mikademus» amarok rocks:)
[22:33] <mikademus> I'm noticing!
[22:34] <nosrednaekim> spiroo» and i've heard alot of problems
[22:34] <spiroo> I guess I have to wait then for the big changes for KDE.
[22:34]  * regeya fires up quod libet :->
[22:34] <spiroo> nosrednaekim: Like what problems?
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> spiroo» just acting buggy, high CPU ue when pluigging external drives, freezing... yeah
[22:35] <spiroo> I have not noticed any bug of that kind anyway.
[22:35] <Antkin> mikademus noticing what?
[22:37] <spiroo> Wondering something else, the website http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com. Will those changes affect kubuntu or is kubuntu a development for itself? Ubuntu and Kubuntu seems to diff quite much. Even if most people say the only difference is desktop system.
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> spiroo» you can file wishes for kubuntu, yes
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> spiroo» and any kernel/driver stuff should be the same
[22:38] <spiroo> okay, yes I posted a wish for an update on Grub. Seems many people complain regarding bootup :D
[22:39] <spiroo> I know about grub2. But I think they/we should think out of the box and develop a new boot loader. Grub is old-school :P
[22:41] <Y-Town> I am getting ready to edit my menus is KDE to look and feel the way I want them to...  Is there a file I can make a copy of before starting incase I  dont like the outcome?
[22:42] <nosrednaekim> Y-Town» I think you can restore it to deafults
[22:45] <mikademus> Antkin: that Amorak rocks :)
[22:45] <mikademus> And the music I'm playing, come to think of it
[22:46] <mikademus> Though remixes of ROb Hubbard's "Commando" soundtrack can't fail
[22:46] <spiroo> Amarok ;)
[22:46] <mikademus> lol, kay, I'll get the hang of it eventually
[22:47] <spiroo> yes, Amarok beats Rhytmbox, Singbird, Winamp, XMMS and every single music player in the world! :D
[22:47] <spiroo> *songbird
[22:47] <mikademus> Well, I do love my Foobar2000 for my WInXP setup
[22:48] <mikademus> Hmm, since I am chatting in here, I could ask you what you think of the chances of success for my diabolic plan
[22:49] <mikademus> The only things keeping my on Windows is Photoshop, MS Office and Visual Studio 2008
[22:49] <mikademus> Can I run Photoshop CS3 and VS2008 under Linux/Wine?
[22:49] <Y-Town> I am getting ready to edit my menus in kde and was wondering if there is a file I can backup before I start incase I want to go back to the way it currently is?
[22:50] <adz21c> mikademus: photoshop i think is a possibility, as for Vs2k8 i am thinking unlikely
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> mikademus» little hint... BTW, don't try it here, but "/media" will automatically display what yu are listening too
[22:51] <mikademus> Ah, that could get messy if too many do it... I immediately though about channels filled with adolescents *shudders*
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> XD
[22:51] <Erickj92> what is a good program that is like microsoft money for kubuntu?
[22:52] <mikademus> So, is there a consensus that Visual Studio might be a problem to get to work under Wine?
[22:52] <adz21c> mikademus: i would think so, personally i run XP under virtualbox for vs2k5, runs as if i am in windows
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> !info kmymoney
[22:52] <ubotu> Package kmymoney does not exist in gutsy
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> mikademus» definately.... but ask in #winehq
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> !info kmymoney2
[22:52] <ubotu> kmymoney2 (source: kmymoney2): personal finance manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.7-2 (gutsy), package size 7078 kB, installed size 14424 kB
[22:52] <icanhasadmin> ok i'm officially frustrated. HOW DO I UNINSTALL XGL? It's driving me nuts it won't go away.
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> !info gnucash
[22:52] <ubotu> gnucash (source: gnucash): A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.1-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 1746 kB, installed size 5360 kB
[22:52] <Erickj92> thanks
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin» "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl"
[22:53] <icanhasadmin> nosrednaekim: if this works i love you, seriously.
[22:54] <Erickj92> lol
[22:54] <Erickj92> nosrdnekim, looks like you'll have a new fan
[22:54] <Antkin> norsednaekin Hello
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin» you'll need to log out and then back in
[22:54] <mikademus> Ok, so virtualisation is the way to go, then. :( But I'll ask in their channel, too.
[22:54] <icanhasadmin> nosrednaekim: I figured, thanks. I should note, I only love you if uninstalling xgl fixes my issue ;)
[22:55] <icanhasadmin> brb
[22:55] <mikademus> Speaking of virtualisation, is there a VM that can emulate different graphics adapters? Say a 3Dfx Voodoo?
[22:56] <icanhasadmin> Yep, I love you.
[22:56] <icanhasadmin> Seriously, I really do.
[22:57] <icanhasadmin> So now a question. Why is XGL made of such fail? and was it maybe a botched install or is it really just that bad?
[22:57] <Erickj92> rofl
[22:57] <Erickj92> i just did "sudo apt-get install kde4games" and it did all the steps, but where are the kde4games at?
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin» you need a decent graphics card
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> Erickj92» uhh those are gonna be pretty old...
[22:58] <Arwen> icanhasadmin, XGL is made of fail because it's a hack of X
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> !kde4
[22:58] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:58] <Arwen> and because, well, yeah
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> it was made by Novell ;)
[22:58] <icanhasadmin> Ok, well I can see both of your arguments.. butttt....
[22:59] <Blsh> how come on lspci i don't see my wifi device?
[22:59] <Erickj92> what is an awesome game taht is 3d, and that will keep me entertained for hours?
[22:59]  * Arwen used to have fglrx running in XGL. Buggy piece of junk...
[22:59] <icanhasadmin> nosrednaekim: if it's my crappy graphics card (which i admit is bad), why does fglrx CLAIM to support it?
[22:59] <Arwen> Erickj92, Unreal Tournament 3
[22:59] <icanhasadmin> and i'm assuming fglrx installed xgl, because i didn't install xgll in any other way
[22:59] <Erickj92> sweet
[23:00] <Arwen> icanhasadmin, well, it claims to support a lot of things (note that if you're lucky, you can use fglrx Catalyst 8.2 and dodge XGL altogether)
[23:01] <icanhasadmin> Arwen: Ultimately it would be nice if I could get it to work that way. I fear i lack neccesary expertise.
[23:02] <Arwen> bah, I tried it on my X300SE
[23:02] <Arwen> it didn't work (and it made the login screen unreadable too)
[23:02] <Arwen> and then the l-r-m team laughed at me when I filed a bug report
[23:02] <Arwen> so back on the free drivers for me...
[23:02] <x89x> how do i install kdevelop anyone ??????
[23:03] <icanhasadmin> Actually.. wait.. I HAD IT working. Because I was able to run "Phun" which requires open GL, and I didn't have XGL installed.
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin» what graphics car?
[23:03] <icanhasadmin> xpress 200m, absolute garbage.. but as i said it worked with Phun, which was primary reason for seeking out drivers
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin» yep.. that works... running one right now
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> well, xpress1100, but its the same thing inside
[23:04] <x89x> kdevelop anyone ???
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin» bug XGL has nothing to do with openGL games
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> *but
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin» did you install the resticted driver?
[23:07] <x89x> anyoneeeee /???
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> !info kdevelop
[23:08] <ubotu> kdevelop (source: kdevelop): An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.0-0ubuntu2.1 (gutsy), package size 8840 kB, installed size 26992 kB
[23:09] <Blsh> why do i only see 1 realtek device?
[23:09] <Blsh> (via lspci)
[23:09] <dewitt> im am running kubuntu 7:04 adept shows version upgrade, what is the upgrade.
[23:10] <nosrednaekim> Blsh» you have two?
[23:10] <frank23> dewitt: upgrade to 7.10 I would think
[23:10] <Blsh> yes, i have the hard line (eth0) and a wifi by them (rtl8187B)
[23:10] <mikademus> Hmm, is this a bug? I have added a second panel to the desktop, but I can only configure the 1st from the panel settings, even when I go through the 2nd one to get to the settings?
[23:11] <dewitt> thanks
[23:11] <nosrednaekim> sure that a realtek not a ralink?
[23:11] <Blsh> realtek
[23:11] <Blsh> i just looked at the card
[23:11] <nosrednaekim> mikademus» run "dcop kicker kicker restart" and it should work corrrectly
[23:12] <mikademus> from console?
[23:12] <Blsh> reguardless how come i only see 1 ethernet card with lspci
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> Blsh» could you pastebin your lspci?
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> mikademus» that will work
[23:12] <Blsh> nosrednaekim, i cant because i have no internet :(
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> mikademus» you need to restart the panel
[23:12] <Blsh> (on that pc)
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> (which is what that does)
[23:12] <frank23> dewitt: the kubuntu upgrader program was not too stable when I used it so be backup your files and be ready to reinstall 7.10 if it craps out on you
[23:13] <regeya> this weekend sucked.  it's been warm, sunny, and I haven't felt like doing a drn thing.  everyone at my house is sick including me.
[23:13] <mikademus> Yeah, that did it. What did I do? Seems like very strane syntax...
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> Blsh» right.... you only see one network device?
[23:13] <Blsh> yes
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> what does "iwconfig" say?
[23:13] <Blsh> is there another command like lkspci that show all devices?
[23:13] <regeya> I wont even say that I did a dist-upgrade to upgrade; that's not the tool you use to upgrade *buntu, even though that's precisely what dist-upgrade is there for
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> dewitt» it may be 7.10 still(there was a bug) but it sould be 8.04, so be careful
[23:14] <Blsh> nosrednaekim, by default the card does not work
[23:14] <nosrednaekim> Blsh» "lshw"
[23:14] <eddy> hi ... someone know about a c++ irc channel or a develop irc channel
[23:16] <nosrednaekim> #cpp, but they are awful restrictive there
[23:17] <eddy> maybe other
[23:17] <icanhasadmin> nosrednaekim: sorry i was afk, yeah i installed restricted, i didn't think i installed xgl tho
[23:17] <Blsh> i don't even see my wifi card :(
[23:17] <icanhasadmin> restricted includes it maybe?
[23:18] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin» run "glxinfo | grep -i Direct"
[23:18] <icanhasadmin> well i uninstalled restricted since
[23:18] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin» install it again.
[23:18] <icanhasadmin> I was about to reinstall tho now that i know xgl was the issue
[23:18] <icanhasadmin> is the repository ok?
[23:18] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin» thats what gives you OpenGL
[23:18] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[23:19] <icanhasadmin> oh now i remember, compiz wouldn't work without xgl. is that normal?
[23:19] <mikademus> Ok, well, that's it for my first Linux experience in 11 years. You have helped making it a good one. I'd like to dedicate this my cherry to all of you! ^^
[23:19] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin» yes.
[23:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> isn't xgl deprecated now?
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop» in hardy it will be obsolete
[23:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> i can't imagine why anyone would still be using that hackish solution for any reason
[23:20] <icanhasadmin> is hardy the next ubuntu?
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin» yurp...
[23:20] <Blsh> but i see how come i can use the card in vista but, linux can not even see it???
[23:20] <icanhasadmin> sorry i'm not smarter :P glad someone helped out mikademus...
[23:21] <pushax> hi all.  should I use sane or xsane on kubuntu?
[23:21] <nosrednaekim> pushax» xsane is just a frontend to sane iirc
[23:21] <icanhasadmin> oh, btw, you can also "touch" to fix the kde panel issue.. and it's more fun for newbs ;)
[23:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> Blsh: linux isn't windows.
[23:22] <Dominic> hey.  Does anybody know a way to reset the KDE menu back to the original set of items for the apps installed?
[23:22] <Blsh> your right linux is better :D, but i need wifi (lol)
[23:22] <nosrednaekim> !ndiswrapper
[23:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> Blsh: lspci | grep Wi
[23:22] <nosrednaekim> Blsh» ndisrapper i probabably your best bet....
[23:22] <pushax> nosrednaekim: little confused.  does iirc still mean scanner interfacing?
[23:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> uh
[23:23] <nosrednaekim> pushax» "if I remember correctly" :)
[23:23] <Blsh> nosrednaekim, but nothing can see the device :(
[23:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> Blsh: did you do what i asked?
[23:23] <icanhasadmin> lol @ iirc
[23:24] <Blsh> nothing comes up Daisuke_Laptop, sorry didn't see your message
[23:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> hmm
[23:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> yep, ndiswrapper
[23:24] <s> Есть рус?
[23:24] <Blsh> ndiswrapper does not even see the card...
[23:24] <nosrednaekim> Blsh» with the windows driver?
[23:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> ndiswrapper won't unless you install the windows driver for it.
[23:25] <Blsh> yes with the windows driver
[23:25] <Blsh> it says driver installed (nothing about hardware present)
[23:25] <nosrednaekim> Blsh» ouch.
[23:26] <bfrog> Blsh: what does dmesg say
[23:26] <bfrog> anything?
[23:26] <Blsh> what do i search dmesg for?
[23:26] <bfrog> lemme check, probably eth
[23:26] <bfrog> dmesg | grep eth
[23:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> eth, wlan, ath...
[23:27] <Blsh> it only has something about the hardline not the wifi :-\
[23:27] <icanhasadmin> is this a laptop Blsh?
[23:27] <LjL> !ru | s
[23:27] <ubotu> s: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[23:27] <bfrog> if your card has a hardware switch to turn power on/off it may not turn it on automatically
[23:28] <bfrog> google your laptop make a model and linux
[23:28] <Blsh> the light is on
[23:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> if the actual hardware switch for the wifi is off, there shall be facepalms all around
[23:28] <bfrog> you probably aren't the first one
[23:28] <Blsh> nothing comes up i have looked
[23:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> what's the make and model?
[23:28] <icanhasadmin> Blsh: what color is the light?
[23:28] <Blsh> Gateway Mt6017
[23:28] <Blsh> blue :D
[23:28] <icanhasadmin> just making sure :D
[23:28] <Blsh> i have bios turn the card on automaticall
[23:29] <pablo> hello
[23:29] <bfrog> what kind of card is it?
[23:29] <bfrog> bcm?
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> hey pablo
[23:29] <Blsh> realtek 8187B
[23:29] <pablo> how do I uninstall Elisa Media Center?
[23:30] <pablo> or any program instaled with python setup.py install?
[23:30] <pablo> i cant find anything in google
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> pablo» does python setup.py have any options? like --uninstall?
[23:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> python setup.py uninstall or python setup.py remove?
[23:31] <pablo> no
[23:31] <s> Можете помочь?  Kopete   можно научить русскому языку?
[23:31] <pablo> doesnt work
[23:32] <pablo> any idea?
[23:32] <nosrednaekim> !ru
[23:32] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[23:32] <frank23> pablo: where was it installed?
[23:32] <pablo> Elisa Media Center
[23:32] <pablo> from source
[23:32] <icanhasadmin> ... isnt the 8187 an external usb card?
[23:33] <frank23> pablo: I don't know... did you check the
[23:34] <frank23> pablo: Elisa documentation?
[23:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> Blsh: use the win98 driver with ndiswrapper.
[23:34] <pablo> a litle bit
[23:35] <pablo> i cant find how to do it
[23:35] <nosrednaekim> ya vista drivers don't work with ndiswrapper yet.
[23:35] <Blsh> yes i was using the win98
[23:36] <Blsh> but reguardless of the driver shouldn't it show up in lshw or lspci????
[23:36] <nosrednaekim> hmm true
[23:36] <Antkin> Blsh Win 98 no longer safe on the internet
[23:37] <Dominic> Blsh: is this a laptop?
[23:38] <x89x> how do i delete fiels using the xterminal >>?
[23:38] <Dominic> x89x: rm filename
[23:39] <x89x> Dominic : I want to remove the backup of my xorg. The file name is xorg.conf.20080303045834. SO i typed in  rm  etc\x11\xorg.conf.20080303045834
[23:39] <x89x> its not working ?? Is tehre something wrong in that ?
[23:40] <Dominic> x89x: two things, you need to use "sudo" to get root permissions as it's a system file.  Secondly, you need forward slashes on Linux (/), not backslashes.    So /etc/x11/xorg.conf.2008...  Lastly, backups are good and it probably doesn't take up much space :)
[23:41] <nosrednaekim> x89x» no need to remove that
[23:41] <nosrednaekim> Dominic» and that was 3 things ;)
[23:41] <Dominic> they just kept coming :)
[23:41] <x89x> I have 3 backups dominic. My working copy is the best. I have just edited the screen refresh rate
[23:44] <x89x> nosrednaekim : I am not able to remove it !! Its giving an error saying no such file or directory !!
[23:44] <nosrednaekim> x89x» forthly... you have to start with /etc
[23:44] <Dominic> x89x: use your tab key to automatically complete what you're typing - it'll ensure the file exists and avoids mistakes
[23:45] <x89x> I typed
[23:45] <x89x> x89x@x89x-desktop:~$ sudo rm /etc/x11/xorg.conf.20080303045834
[23:45] <x89x> rm: cannot remove `/etc/x11/xorg.conf.20080303045834': No such file or directory
[23:45] <nosrednaekim> apparently it doesn't exist
[23:45] <x89x> the files is there. and tab is not doing anything here :(
[23:45] <nosrednaekim> how do you know its there?
[23:46] <Dominic> try doing "ls /etc/x11/"
[23:46] <x89x> even after /etc/!!!
[23:46] <nosrednaekim> uhh.... its an upper case X BTW
[23:46] <x89x> is it case sensitive !!!
[23:46] <nosrednaekim> fifthly ;)
[23:46] <nosrednaekim> ya
[23:46] <x89x> OMG !!
[23:46] <x89x> lol
[23:46] <prince_jammys> X11
[23:47] <BobSapp> how do i install the restricted drivers under kubuntu for nvidia?
[23:47] <Dominic> BobSapp: you should have an icon in the taskbar for restricted drivers, or click on the K menu, System Settings, Advanced, Restricted Drivers.  Then you can just tick the box.
[23:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> it requires goat's blood and the feathers of a chicken killed at exactly 27 weeks, 3 days, 12 minutes, and 15 seconds of age.
[23:48] <BobSapp> ty
[23:48] <x89x> nosrednaekim : Did using TAB. Still not working !!!!
[23:48] <Antkin> pablo Hello
[23:49] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop» might have been faster to give the real answer ^_^............. but the humor would definately be lacking :)
[23:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: that's why i leave the real answers to others sometimes :)
[23:49] <x89x> nosrednaekim : its working :)
[23:49] <nosrednaekim> x89x» seriously.. don't worry about it
[23:49] <x89x> thnaks
[23:49] <x89x> hehe
[23:50] <x89x> i'll create a backup right now using the cp command
[23:50] <BobSapp> cp???
[23:50] <x89x> btw whats SUDO for ?? whtas the full form ?
[23:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo is the full form
[23:50] <nosrednaekim> sudo stands for "super user do"
[23:50] <x89x> thanks
[23:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> it runs a program with escalated privileges
[23:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> so be careful what you do with it :)
[23:51] <Ax-Ax> why doens't find sort files alfabethichaly? have i set something?
[23:51] <Dominic> Ax-Ax: you can pipe it to "sort", for instance:  find /home/dominic -name file | sort
[23:51] <x89x> nosrednaekim : can i write sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup2 to make a new backup ??
[23:52] <nosrednaekim> yep
[23:52] <nosrednaekim> a backup in your home DIR of course
[23:52] <x89x> home !!
[23:52] <nosrednaekim> thats what ~ means
[23:52] <x89x> oh i though it'd be in the same path. What do i do if i dont want to wrote the whole path ?
[23:52] <Ax-Ax> Dominic, i just wondered why it goes "b, a, c, e, d"
[23:52] <nosrednaekim> x89x» cd there first
[23:53] <Blsh> well i installed a bcm43xx but now when i do network scans i see nothing
[23:53] <nosrednaekim> "cd /etc/X11/" then "cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup"
[23:53] <Dominic> Ax-Ax: I /think/ it's to do with the filesystem (which could then depend upon any number of factors, perhaps the order in which the files were written, or an index is maintained)
[23:53] <nosrednaekim> well, the second command will need sudo
[23:54] <x89x> nosrednaekim : All working :-)
[23:55] <phix> What are the ubuntu gpg keys?
[23:55] <nosrednaekim> !pgp
[23:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pgp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:55] <nosrednaekim> !gpg
[23:55] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[23:55] <x89x> nosrednaekim : Do openchrome drivers work for fiesty ?
[23:55] <phix> nosrednaekim: yeah I tried that in #ubuntu
[23:55] <nosrednaekim> x89x» probably not
[23:55] <phix> no luck
[23:55] <nosrednaekim> phix» they are keys to assure the packages are legit
[23:56] <x89x> i cant even enable effects :-(... Can i ?/
[23:56] <phix> nosrednaekim: I know but where do I get them from? what is the package name?
[23:56] <nosrednaekim> phix» not sure... why do you need them?
[23:57] <phix> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[23:57] <phix> from apt
[23:57] <nosrednaekim> phix» from what repository?
[23:57] <x89x> nosrednaekim : I have k8m890 chipset which has via HC IGP 9 and VN896 has same VIA Chrome9? HC integrated graphics
[23:57] <x89x> nosrednaekim : will it work on mine ?
[23:57] <Jucato> phix: which packages specifically?
[23:57] <nosrednaekim> yeah... but are you grabbing them from a PPA?
[23:57] <nosrednaekim> x89x» if you can get it working, yes
[23:57] <Blsh> my wifi card seems to double as my lan card nick
[23:58] <x89x> nosrednaekim : I get it work ? What do i have to do for that ?
[23:58] <nosrednaekim> !openschrome
[23:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openschrome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:58] <nosrednaekim> !openchrome
[23:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openchrome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:58] <nosrednaekim> x89x» a ton... its a pain
[23:58] <Blsh> !screwed
[23:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screwed - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:59] <x89x> nosrednaekim : What about this one ?? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[23:59] <lextul> yeehaaa http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/27/europe/german.php .. wish a good night
[23:59] <nosrednaekim> x89x» thats the page
[23:59] <x89x> there are some steps for 3D but its written as edgy
[23:59] <x89x> are they th same ?
[23:59] <phix> Jucato: libnss-ldap, libpam-ldap, slapd
[23:59] <phix> nscd
[23:59] <phix> http://au.archive.ubuntu.com