[08:55] <histo> wooo_: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step
[08:55] <Chadman> any other way?
[08:55] <Chadman> like v4l2loopback?
[08:56] <histo> wooo_: You already have photorec since you installed testdisk
[08:56] <Chadman> histo, are you aware of v4l2loopback?
[08:56] <histo> Chadman: what's wrong with webcamstudio?
[08:57] <wooo_> histo: So should I stop testdisk ? Its running . Analyzing cylinders 10375/60800 17%.
[08:57] <Chadman> histo, I want to show an image on it, but it doesn't work.
[08:58] <Chadman> histo, like I selected a image, and pressed play, and when the virtual-webcam doesn't appear in webcam-selecting options of livestream-sites.
[08:58] <histo> wooo_: well let testdisk finish and see if it finds paritions but I doubt it.
[08:58] <Chadman> histo, it also says "no output"
[08:58] <wooo_> histo: okay.
[08:58] <Chadman> so webcamstudio is pretty useless.
[08:58] <Chadman> histo, any other way? like mplayer, v4l2loopback, vloopback?
[08:59] <Chadman> ?
[08:59] <Chadman> I have both, v4l2loopback, gstreamer...etc everything installed.
[09:00] <Chadman> A guy was helping me out last night, but he vanished. he just said "cd into the directory where you have the gif"
[09:00] <Chadman> and vanished.
[09:00] <Chadman> I want to display a gif on my virtual webcam.
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> !patience | Chadman
[09:00] <histo> Chadman: I'm not sure if there is another way to do it... Here is a howto video I found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoXtcaWwsP0
[09:00] <Chadman> histo, we can use v4l2loopback to solve this.
[09:00] <Chadman> but I don't know how can I use it.
[09:01] <Chadman> v4l2loopback is the perfect solution for this, but how can I use it?
[09:01] <histo> Chadman: I'm not familiar with it.
[09:01] <Chadman> :/
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> Chadman: does it have a man page?
[09:04] <histo> Chadman: seems everyone is using webcamstudio from what i'm seeing on google
[09:04] <histo> Chadman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139239/fake-a-webcam-using-a-video-loopback-device
[09:05] <Chadman> I am googling some stuff.
[09:05] <Chadman> wait.
[09:05] <Chadman> and no, actionparsnip.
[09:06] <marawan2> why wine doesn't work for me with any program, it says program error
[09:06] <Chadman> root@bt:~# gst-launch souphttpsrc location=/root/me50.jpg ! jpegdec ! ffmpegcolorspace ! modprobe v4l2loopback device=/dev/video0
[09:06] <histo> marawan2: you'd probably have to check the appdb for instructions on whatever program you are trying to use
[09:06] <histo> !appdb | marawan2
[09:07] <marawan2>  histo: i have tried multiple programs and it says the same program error
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> marawan2: it depends entirely on the app, some work, some don't
[09:09] <histo> marawan2: did you check the appdb?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> marawan2: hence why the appdb exists and should be consulted
[09:09] <marawan2> histo: i am checking it now
[09:10] <OerHeks> Chadman, i guess you should not run that tool as root, in your backtrack
[09:10] <marawan2> histo, ActionParsnip: ok further more guys i followed this video on youtube about how to get counter strike for free and it sayed i need wine
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> marawan2: yes, its a windows application
[09:11] <Chadman> OerHeks: then?
[09:11] <Chadman> OerHeks: should I add my user to some group?
[09:11] <histo> marawan2: you can play counterstrike in steam and steam has a linux client now
[09:11] <marawan2> ActionParsnip, histo: i tryed but it didn't work (though it did on the vid) so i try wine on other programs and it doesn't work too showing program error
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> marawan2: histo has a great point :)
[09:12] <marawan2> histo: free?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> marawan2: just install steam (native) and run the game from there
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> marawan2: counterstrike isnt free in any way
[09:12] <histo> Chadman: try in ##linux or in backtrack's support channel
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> marawan2: used to be
[09:13] <marawan2> ActionParsnip: but what if i want wine to operate other programs
[09:16] <histo> marawan2: then you check wine's appdb to see if it's supported and ask for help in the wine channel
[09:17] <marawan2> histo: it says suported
[09:17] <marawan2> histo: it is not about the programs it is about wine itself
[09:18] <bazhang> marawan2, #winehq for that
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> marawan2: then check the appdb
[09:18] <bazhang> !appdb > marawan2
[09:19] <r_lex> hello
[09:20] <r_lex> is it possible to mount drives (external) as rw by default?
[09:20] <Chadman> No such element or plugin 'v4l2loopback'
[09:21] <jatt> absolutely
[09:21] <Chadman> I installed v4l2loopback, but when I do "gst-inspect v4l2loopback", it gives me this: No such element or plugin 'v4l2loopback'
[09:21] <Chadman>
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> r_lex: yuo mount the partition, not the drive
[09:22] <r_lex> that's not case afaik
[09:22] <r_lex> still i have only one partition on that drive
[09:23] <k1l> r_lex: the nautilus should mount your drive with gvfs ootb
[09:23] <r_lex> the problem is even if i do remount,rw /blahblahblah
[09:23] <r_lex> it still (!) remounts it as ro after some time
[09:23] <k1l> r_lex: see in dmesg if its a error remount.
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> r_lex: yes, its still the partition you mount even if its 100% of the space
[09:24] <k1l> maybe the drive is broken and the kernel wants it to be ro to not loose data
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> r_lex: what file system does it use?
[09:24] <r_lex> ActionParsnip, fat32
[09:24] <r_lex> vfat
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> r_lex: when you last unplugged it, did you use the safe removal feature in your OS?
[09:25] <k1l> r_lex: if its rw and then switches to ro its the error_remount_ro
[09:25] <r_lex> error, fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain
[09:25] <r_lex> seems to need fsck
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> r_lex: did you safe remove the device before physically unplugging it?
[09:26] <r_lex> yes
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> r_lex: good, then I suggest you fsck the unounted partition (or do it in windows)
[09:26] <r_lex> already doing that...
[09:27] <r_lex> btw seems to be offtopic but can anyone suggest _fast_ usb flash drive?
[09:27] <r_lex> 64GB+
[09:27] <Chadman> histo & ActionParsnip; I installed webcamstudio but, In the bottom right of webcamstudio's window the "No output!" message is shown. Is not possible to select the virtual webcam in Flash sites.
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> r_lex: some usb3 thing will be fine
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> r_lex: or a high class numbered sd card
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Chadman: I dont use webcams or know anything of them. They are creepy
[09:33] <Mongoose> Hi, I'm a very new Ubuntu user and would like to know how best to get involved.  I've been reading the guidance in the Wiki but finding it confusing.
[09:35] <DJones> !contribute | Mongoose This is a good starting point, other ways are to answer questions on ubuntuforums/IRC/askubuntu etc,
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> onkelSuSE:
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> Mongoose: get used to the OS first, you can help here as a good start :)
[09:35] <Mongoose> Thank you! :-)
[09:36] <DJones> Mongoose: Boyond that, you can report bugs and help test fixes as you get more involved and experienced
[09:36] <Mongoose> I'm getting used to it very quickly, and I think it's awesome.  I had Windows for years and I'll never go back to that.
[09:39] <karlmh> what is the name of that package, its a text based service / port scanner ?
[09:40] <karlmh> i need to get this info so i can setup my firewall
[09:40] <somsip> !info nmap | karlmh
[09:40] <karlmh> somsip: thanks, thats it.. had a brain fart
[09:43] <babinlonston> while mounting password asking for each and every time after restart its not mounting , sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/public /home/sysadmin/public , command used and fstab entry is here //<IP_ADDRESS>/public /home/sysadmin/public     cifs username=anoymous,password=sysadmin123$       0 0
[09:43] <marawan2> does wine work on lubuntu gnome?
[09:44] <Kuroshita> should be fine marawan2
[09:44] <DJones> marawan2: Wine works on all flavours of Ubuntu
[09:44] <marawan2> is not fine and doesn't run anything
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> marawan2: if the apps you are trying to run are known to not work, you are fighting a losing battle
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> marawan2: the desktop you use is irrelevant
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> babinlonston: in /etc/rc.local   above the 'exit 0' line, add:    mount -a
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> babinlonston: fstab is processed before the network comes up, so will fail
[09:48] <babinlonston> just only i want to add mount -a
[09:48] <leonardo_> #indiewebcamp
[09:48] <jony_easyrider> how can I change the label of my stick in ubuntu 12.04?
[09:49] <DJones> jony_easyrider: USB Stick? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[09:50] <SDIS> can anyone tell me  how to install steam client in ubuntu 12.04?
[09:53] <soure> Hi
[09:53] <soure> i'hav problem
[09:54] <soure> sometimes i have this problem http://imgur.com/boYKZWO ...
[09:54] <leonardo_> #indiewebcamp
[09:55] <soure> during bootimng
[09:56] <babinlonston> just only i want to add mount -a
[09:58] <DaleFernandes> can anyone here by any chance help me configure my php local server, ##php isn't quite helping
[09:58] <gordonjcp> DaleFernandes: is it an Ubuntu server?
[09:58] <DaleFernandes> yes
[09:58] <DaleFernandes> no
[09:58] <DaleFernandes> well
[09:58] <DaleFernandes> local
[09:58] <FloodBot1> DaleFernandes: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:58] <DaleFernandes> on ubuntu
[09:59] <gordonjcp> DaleFernandes: you're running Ubuntu and you want to get PHP working, correct?
[09:59] <DaleFernandes> yes i want to test my files locally before uploading them
[09:59] <SDIS> hi all  :) can anyone tell me  how to install windows xp from ubuntu 12.04 via usb.
[09:59] <gordonjcp> DaleFernandes: then ask away
[09:59] <DJones> SDIS: ##windows for Windows questions
[10:00] <DaleFernandes> Well, gordonjcp , i just cant get it working, ive tried everything that i could find online but my php scripts dont run, i just dont know what to do
[10:00] <DaleFernandes> gordonjcp, do you have a php script testing environment?
[10:00] <gordonjcp> DaleFernandes: nope, I don't use PHP
[10:00] <DaleFernandes> gordonjcp, do you know how to set it up by any chance? :P
[10:01] <gordonjcp> DaleFernandes: start at the beginning - what exactly have you done so far?
[10:01] <Shahbaz> Hello
[10:02] <DaleFernandes> gordonjcp, 1st: I installed aptana studio 3, then i did the apt-get lamp-server i think it was, which does apache, mysql and php, but when i try run my php scripts on localhost, nothing shows up
[10:02] <tking> hello guys, i have a folder with php files which requires me to install the web app. But when i put the folder in var/www/folder i cant access it from my browser 'localhost/app' Forbidden no permission, the folder is from windows
[10:02] <shahbaz> Hello
[10:03] <gordonjcp> DaleFernandes: okay, when you say "nothing shows up" what *exactly* happens?
[10:03] <gordonjcp> DaleFernandes: can you get your local webserver to serve static files?
[10:03] <DaleFernandes> The webpage is blank, i can insert html code which will work, but when i try <?php echo "w/e"?> not even that works
[10:05] <DaleFernandes> gordonjcp, yes, notmal html code works fine
[10:06] <gordonjcp> DaleFernandes: okay, so the webserver is healthy.  Next place to look is /var/log/httpd/errors.log
[10:06] <gordonjcp> DaleFernandes: that path may not be literally correct
[10:09] <DaleFernandes> gordonjcp, its just InnoDB stuff
[10:09] <DaleFernandes> no "errors"
[10:10] <junctions> Hello people. I'm trying to fiddle with the router at a computer far far away. I normally do everything there through SSH, however this seems that it requires a browser. w3m doesn't work with the router. Firefox is unusably slow (when using ssh  -X). What is the most lightweight GUI www-browser in the ubuntu repository to your experience?
[10:11] <gordonjcp> DaleFernandes: innodb sounds wrong
[10:11] <gordonjcp> DaleFernandes: can you pastebin the error log?
[10:11] <DaleFernandes> :s
[10:11] <DaleFernandes> i could yes
[10:11] <gordonjcp> junctions: what I do is enable the remote management interface on the router
[10:12] <blazemore> junctions: dillo is super lightweight but very feature-light
[10:12] <gordonjcp> junctions: you could try something like midori, but it's more down to how much data you are throwing over the connection
[10:12] <gordonjcp> junctions: what's the spec of the machine you're running the browser on?
[10:12] <junctions> gordonjcp: yeah, but to do that I first need to use the webinterface
[10:13] <junctions> ubuntu 12.04 on a GSM router halfway around the world
[10:13] <junctions> blazemore, gordonjcp: thanks for those suggestions, I'll try them right away
[10:14] <DaleFernandes> http://pastebin.com/RWjbZKKf
[10:15] <gordonjcp> DaleFernandes: that does not look like an apache log file
[10:15] <DaleFernandes> thats the only error.log file i have with any contents :P
[10:15] <DaleFernandes> :s*
[10:15] <somsip> DaleFernandes: thats mysql log
[10:15] <DaleFernandes> the others are empty
[10:16] <somsip> DaleFernandes: anything in /var/log/apache2/errors.log?
[10:17] <DaleFernandes> somsip, just a missing fav icon error
[10:17] <DaleFernandes> thats all
[10:17] <junctions> blazemore, thanks, dillo works like a charm!
[10:18] <histo> junctions: uzbl is a really lightweight browser
[10:18] <histo> junctions: you could also forward your web traffic through the machine and then then use your local browser
[10:18] <histo> s/forward/tunnel/
[10:20] <junctions> histo: hmm that sounds like a good idea. I've read about that somewhere but can't say I know how to do it or where to learn. Maybe later. (I think I once read something along the lines of "we don't need no stinking vpn software", on advanced ssh tunneling)
[10:20] <histo> junctions: yes
[10:21] <junctions> thanks, I'll keep that in mind, specially for circumventing country locks on certain services ;)
[10:21] <zhak> Hello, can someone help me please. I have a new ultrabook and to get wifi working i need a custom kernel. But "make deb-pkg" fails because dpkg-dev package is missing. How can i get this package installed wihtout network?
[10:22] <histo> junctions: you may want to look into sshuttle makes it really easy to forward everything including dns
[10:23] <junctions> histo: thanks :)
[10:25] <histo> zhak: which wireless chipset does your card have?
[10:25] <zhak> histo: an intel wireless-n 7260
[10:26] <histo> zhak: what does lspci | grep -i network say?
[10:27] <zhak> histo: Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev 6b)
[10:28] <zhak> histo: i followed this guide https://spicious.com/sony-vaio-pro-11-with-ubuntu.html
[10:28] <zhak> histo: but i cant get the kernel compiled since dpkg-dev package is missing
[10:29] <histo> !info dpkg-dev | zhak
[10:29] <DJones> zhak: Which version of Ubuntu are you using, according to http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2141981.html the driver should already be included in the kernel for Ubuntu
[10:29] <histo> zhak: install it then
[10:30] <zhak> histo: well i got no network so how do i install it
[10:31] <histo> zhak: use a wire or
[10:31] <histo> !offline | zhak
[10:32] <zhak> DJones: i use the daily build for saucy salamander since 13.04 does not boot
[10:32] <azar> I have created x509 certificate with openssl , after that when I want to add the key with this command: "keyctl padd asymmetric "" @s <.//ssl.crt/server.crt" it returns: "add_key: Bad message". Can anyone help me?
[10:35] <socketguru> hey all
[10:35] <zhak> ubottu: is it posssible to download packages for saucy salamander since it is not released yet
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> zhak  ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:36] <DJones> zhak: You're probably better asking in #ubuntu+1 for support with 13.10, thats the support channel for development versions
[10:36] <socketguru> I have a 2D barcode scanner, which doesn't get recognized as a device. I saw /dev/ list. I want to know if there is any work around this?
[10:36] <zhak> DJones: ok thanks
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> zhak  i have 13.10 in a chroot and can download and install packages, ok
[10:37] <zhak> MonkeyDust: could you upload the dpkg-dev package?
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> zhak  havent tried, now continue in #ubuntu+1, please
[10:41] <T3X> how do i make my script executed every 40 seconds?
[10:42] <kanliot> T3X, while loop in bash
[10:42] <Forage> good morning
[10:42] <sindri> Morning
[10:42] <Forage> anyone care for a quick firefox test on ubuntu?
[10:42] <socketguru> T3X: run a cron job
[10:43] <Forage> I found a weird issue I'd like to confirm
[10:43] <T3X> socketguru: crontab allow min 1 min interval
[10:43] <T3X> no less than one minute
[10:43] <somsip> T3X: you can't with cron alone. You would need to call bash scripts that start processes after sleep() times
[10:44] <socketguru> T3X: sorry, missed that.. then a shell script with 40s delay will help
[10:45] <kanliot> forage go
[10:45] <Forage> for some reason the twitter website does not function properly in Firefox on Ubuntu. Other browsers on ubuntu or firefox on Windows is no problem. It has to do with uppercase characters in the user name.
[10:46] <Forage> if you go to e.g. https://twitter.com/TheOldReader it will show up fine.
[10:46] <somsip> Forage: sounds like an issue for the firefox people. Maybe you should file a bug report with them
[10:46] <Forage> somsip: I'd like to confirm it first
[10:47] <Forage> but now click on the first user on that page with uppercase characters in its name like @ToddGregory
[10:47] <Forage> it will show a pop-up
[10:47] <Forage> Now click on the "Go to full profile" at the bottom of the pop-up
[10:48] <Forage> In my case the loading indication at the top center will keep going
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> Forage  better ask in #firefox
[10:48] <thoint> /join ##penis
[10:48] <yeats> Forage: that's not happening for me
[10:49] <Forage> yeats: it will show you his full profile instantly?
[10:49] <yeats> Forage: yep
[10:49] <Forage> rats
[10:49] <Phase4> "ImportError: No module named _gi" howfix?
[10:49] <yeats> I've not seen that problem on ff/ubuntu (which is all i use) and I use twitter a lot
[10:50] <Phase4> apport-gtk is in an infinite loop trying to report it's own error
[10:50] <Forage> yeats: ok, ty. I'll go disabling add-ons one by one then
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> !details | Phase4
[10:51] <Phase4> MonkeyDust, apport-gtk shows up saying "problem detected", it then goes away when i click any of the buttons and shows up again, running apport-cli i get that error message
[10:52] <blazemore> Phase4: Try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall python-gobjects"
[10:52] <Phase4> this machine did recently restart mid-upgrade, i'm cleaing up the fallout from that, basically i what to know what package _gi is in
[10:52] <Phase4> blazemore, did that already
[10:53] <blazemore> Phase4: To clean up the fallut from a borked upgrade, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a; sudo apt-get -f install"
[10:53] <blazemore> Phase4: You could always "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop"
[10:53] <sindri> any idea how I can copy large text chunks CLI using screen over SSH?
[10:54] <sindri> * So I can paste it into pastebin etc I mean.
[10:54] <DJones> Forage: I can also confirm that worked fine for me on 13.04 in vbox, no issues at all
[10:54] <Phase4> blazemore, running dpkg-reconfigure -a now
[10:55] <Phase4> oh wow, it is reconfiguring everything, this might take a while
[10:55] <jrib> sindri: use copy mode or just use pastebinit
[10:55] <jrib> Phase4: you should have done dpkg --configure -a
[10:55] <Forage> DJones: ty for testing. I'm now trying to see if it's one of my add-ons causing the issue
[10:55] <blazemore> Ohhhhhhh
[10:55] <blazemore> I actually did a booboo
[10:56] <blazemore> Phase4: what jrib said
[10:56] <Phase4> blazemore, i was wondering :P
[10:56] <blazemore> ehh I've told people to do worse...
[10:56] <blazemore> I suppose it's time for my lunch; I guess I could eat this egg-on-my-face
[10:56] <Phase4> mmmm, egg
[10:57] <sindri> jrib: I am in copy mode (ctrl a + esc) But how can I start to mark text to right click and copy on the terminal I'm ssh'ing via?
[10:57] <Phase4> damn, it still thinks it's 12.10 but half the packages are from 13.04
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> Phase4  type sudo apt-get update | pastebinit and paste the url in the channel
[10:58] <jrib> sindri: you don't use your mouse, you mark the beginning (with space iirc), move to the end of your selection (hit space again), and then use copy mode to paste
[10:59] <jrib> sindri: erm, use "ctrl-a ]" to paste
[10:59] <Phase4> MonkeyDust, pastebinit is not installed
[10:59] <yeats> sindri: you can also use script to capture output to a file in real time
[10:59] <Phase4> MonkeyDust, it is pulling from the raring repositorys
[11:00] <Phase4> to be more precice, when i say it still thinks it's 12.10 i meen the top right->about this computer thing says it's 12.10
[11:01] <Phase4> bah, i'ma run dist-upgrade and prey
[11:01] <Phase4> pray'
[11:01] <Phase4> one of those two
[11:02] <Forage> yeats, DJones: found the trouble maker, it's the HTML Validator add-on for firefox
[11:02] <sindri> jrib: It copied it alright, but locally on the server and not on the machine I'm ssh'ing from. Still can't get it to pastie etc
[11:02] <DJones> Forage: Glad you sorted it
[11:02] <sindri> yeats: Still want it to get into pastebin so someone could review configs
[11:02] <jrib> sindri: use pastebinit (or copy it on the machine your ssh'ing from)
[11:02] <wooo> histo:testdisk process completed. Now fdisk- l is giving following output.   http://pastebin.com/3Cjfvr8W
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest52431
[11:05] <sindri> jrib: Is it worth getting pastebinit? How do I copy it from the machine I'm ssh'ing? right-click has the option to copy "grayed out"
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> sindri: pastebinit is always useful, plus its tiny
[11:07] <Phase4> ix ftw
[11:08] <histo> wooo: try mounting sda5 although it doens't look good
[11:09] <sindri> ActionParsnip: Ok, I guess I'll get it then. jrib : thanks for help - just bums me out I can't do it intuitively using the mouse.
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> wooo: i suggest you look into a backup solution when all this blows over, lots easier
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> sindri: why, its a terminal? Just pipe the text to the command, very intuitive
[11:10]  * MonkeyDust was thinking the smae thing :)
[11:10] <wooo> histo: yeah its E drive of my windows. I got all data from that drives.:) But I didn't get my linux data .
[11:10] <wooo> ActionParsnip: what's backup solution ?
[11:11] <histo> wooo: welll see what's on sda1
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> wooo: where you take a copy of your data and put it on a diffeent storage, so if the data gets damaged, you can easily recover without messing around with testdisk and other forensic tools
[11:12] <wooo> histo: how to check that ? any command ?
[11:12] <histo> wooo: mount it and take a look
[11:12] <histo> wooo: If you really need files from your linux distro I would use photorec to carve. Or see if autopsy can help show you some files
[11:12] <Kartagis> anybody has an idea why I would be getting "Couldn't upload file, check your internet connection" when I drag and drop an image to "Drop to share" on cairo-dock?
[11:13] <wooo> histo: umount /dev/sda1 .right ?
[11:13] <Kartagis> s/I/one/g
[11:13] <histo> wooo: mkdir /tmp/test && sudo mount /dev/sda /tmp/test
[11:13] <histo> wooo: then see what's in /tmp/test
[11:14] <wooo> histo: error "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[11:14] <histo> wooo: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step
[11:15] <histo> wooo: to get your files out. But you'll need somehwere to save all of them.
[11:15] <histo> wooo: you also lost all your filenames etc..
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: are there bugs reported?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: does your user have read access to the file you are dragging?
[11:17] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: I wouldn't know with what keywords to check, and yes
[11:21] <hendrelouw73> OneTwoThree
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: what is this share thingy you have?
[11:26] <tthtlc> account list
[11:26] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: it comes with cairo dock
[11:26] <lllsondowlll> !help
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: http://www.glx-dock.org/bg_topic.php?t=5023
[11:26] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: #cairo-dock is inactive I'm afraid
[11:26] <lllsondowlll> !
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: tried changing the pastebin url?
[11:27] <lllsondowlll> !join #ubuntuhelp
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: http://glx-dock.org/bg_topic.php?t=5081
[11:27] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: yes, and that post is talking about icons, not my issue
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: are you having issue with text?
[11:28] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: allow me to demonstrate
[11:28] <Kartagis> just a sec
[11:29] <sindri> Anyone who could review my vsftpd config and help me figure out why the service isn't listening/running correctly. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5840017/
[11:29] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11918318/Screenshot%20from%202013-07-03%2014%3A28%3A50.png
[11:29] <Kartagis> sindri: does netstat -antlp | grep 21 list it?
[11:30] <Mark_> sindri: When you do a /etc/init.d/vsftpd start does it barf?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: I suggest you report a bug
[11:32] <Nikty> Hi! Installed ubuntu (command-line install) and followed the instructions to map default soundcard, but I have no sound. unmuting in alsamixer doesn't help. any ideas?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Nikty: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[11:33] <gordonjcp> Nikty: are you using the correct device?
[11:34] <gordonjcp> Nikty: how many sound devices have you got?
[11:34] <Nikty> gordonjcp: in debian this device worked, idk why here it doesn't.
[11:34] <lllsondowlll> Hello, I am having trouble with the new kernel 3.9.0 amd64. After installing I no longer have wired internet connection. Any ideas?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Nikty: run the command, what is the output please?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> lllsondowlll: 3.9 kernel is not supported here
[11:35] <Nikty> ActionParsnip: I'm parsing the command :))
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> lllsondowlll: try in #linux
[11:36] <Nikty> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=bc25726b71974faa163a3912daa1f9b602630b7c
[11:36] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:36] <gordonjcp> Nikty: I didn't ask what it used to work in
[11:36] <lllsondowlll> ActionParsnip: That is unfortunate since the current kernel will not stop intermitting my audio with the official ATI drivers.
[11:37] <nevyn> intermitting?
[11:37] <nevyn> seriously ?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> lllsondowlll: we only support the kernels from the official repos here
[11:38] <Nikty> gordonjcp: yes I'm using the correct one
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Nikty: are you using the onboad sound or the hdmi audio?
[11:38] <Nikty> onboard
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Nikty: and if you press F6 in alsamixer the right device is set?
[11:39] <Nikty> ActionParsnip: yup
[11:39] <Atlantic777> Is there a way to list just manually installed packages? I mean, just packages which are installed after clean install. If there's gentoo guys out there, I'm lookin for the "world" file.
[11:39] <lllsondowlll> ActionParsnip: then perhaps you can assist me with the current kernel, the reason I am updating is because the open source ATI drivers are shotty at best and do not see the HDMI audio out. The only way to get this recognised is through the proprietary drivers but I suppose you are going to tell that isn't supported either correct?
[11:39] <tttb> why does Ubuntu randomly ask me to enter a keyring
[11:39] <tttb> it always makes me suspicious
[11:40] <tttb> and I never do it
[11:40] <tttb> yet haven't faced any problems yet
[11:40] <gordonjcp> Nikty: if you specify the sound card to use when you play an audio file, can you hear it?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Nikty: are they also unmuted?
[11:40] <tttb> yet yet
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> lllsondowlll: the proprietary ati drivers are supported here as they are from the repos
[11:41] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: if they were installed from the repo
[11:41] <kenny18> hello, im having trouble with PHP: Require_once(): Unable To Allocate Memory For Pool,  dont need to edit the global settings but just specific sites. opend the .htaccess file in /var/www/... and dont konw what settings to change?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Nikty: tried the speakers in the different holes? Are they powered on and cranked up ?
[11:42] <Nikty> only one hole here, it's a netbook
[11:43] <Nikty> gordonjcp: how do I do this via mplayer?
[11:44] <nevyn> Nikty: alsamixer
[11:44] <lllsondowlll> I'll be back to test again if the HDMI shows up under the repo non catalyst version of the driver but I strickly remember this not being the case. In the event that it does not show the HDMI audio out either, the ATI driver from AMD does but is intermitting but not supported here, and the newest kernel (which was recommended as a fix) isn't either. Does that mean I am pretty much SOL?
[11:44] <rypervenche> tttb: If you entered a password the first time it asked you it will do it everytime. I never do.
[11:44] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: the ati drivers from amd are supported if installed via the repo
[11:45] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: installing them from the ati website with the .sh installer is not supported here
[11:45] <Nikty> [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1293:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open '/dev/snd/pcmC1D0p' failed (-16): Device or resource busy
[11:45] <BluesKaj> lllsondowlll, the hdmi out gets it's audio from a link thru youir graphics driver , not a different audio driver
[11:45] <Phase4> MonkeyDust, jrib: it looks like it was using python 3.2 instead of 3.3, i don't know why, everything got better after removing 3.2 via apt-get autoremove
[11:46] <nevyn> BluesKaj: the problem is a graphics card is a sound card and it has to register the hdmi port as a sound card in alsa
[11:46] <lllsondowlll> BluesKaj: thank you I am aware of this
[11:47] <nevyn> (so it shows up in /proc/asound/cards)
[11:47] <BluesKaj> lllsondowlll, hdmi still depends on whatever audio driver is used with onboard soundcard
[11:47] <nevyn> BluesKaj: no.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Nikty: do you have pulseaudio installed?
[11:47] <Nikty> ActionParsnip: nope
[11:47] <nevyn> BluesKaj: it does not you're incorrect.
[11:47] <lllsondowlll> -_-
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Nikty: may be worth a shot. I have a sound card that will only work if pulse is insaled
[11:48] <lllsondowlll> BlueKaj: The sound card which is onboard and the audio driver for the GPU are two seperate entities entirely.
[11:48] <BluesKaj> opk nevyn , how is it setup then ?
[11:48] <nevyn> BluesKaj: it relies on the kernel part of the video card driver (because writing an X bit and a mesa bit wasn't enough bits) to implement a alsa registration and setup for another soundcard
[11:49] <nevyn> BluesKaj: so writing video drivers is among the most complex bits of stuff spanning the most subsystems of linux these days
[11:49] <BluesKaj> lllsondowlll, yes but the hdmi audio links to the onboard audio
[11:49] <nevyn> because you need to write the weyland/X11 bit  the mesa bit and the kernel bit
[11:50] <nevyn> and the kernel bit has to know about the kernel video mode switching stuff and the alsa stuff
[11:50] <nevyn> as well as the usual bus registration enumeration
[11:50] <nevyn> also the specific bits like gem interfaces etc.
[11:50] <lllsondowlll> BluesKaj: Imagine you have onboard audio, now imagine you have a sound card. They are two different hardware drivers thus requiring you to have two different software drivers because onboard the GPU acts as an add on card.
[11:50] <Nikty> ActionParsnip: well, maybe I'll try pulse, but I'd really like to not use it.
[11:51] <nevyn> BluesKaj: cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:51] <BluesKaj> I use 2 different audio systems on my pc and I can assure that the hdmi out takes the audio from the on board audio driver
[11:51] <nevyn> (if you have hdmi output there will be 2)
[11:51] <sindri> Kartagis: No it's not listen in "netstat -antlp | grep 21"
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Nikty: it can be removed if you gain nothing from it
[11:51] <BluesKaj> nevyn, yes Card 0 and card 1
[11:51] <lllsondowlll> BlueKaj: I don't want to want to offend you but I have been both a computer tech and audio eng. for about 4 years now. If external sound cards ran through on board hardware drivers than audio work would have high latency
[11:52] <Nikty> ActionParsnip: but what if Debian testing has sound without pulse?
[11:52] <nevyn> BluesKaj: in the specific case of intel graphics this may be true. (it's implemented as an additional codec to the INTEL HDA specification) but it's another card as far as the kernel and alsa are concerned
[11:52] <sindri> Mark_: don't know what you mean by barf. Just putting that command return "Usage: /etc/init.d/vsftpd COMMAND"
[11:53] <Mark_> sindri: Yeah, when you use /etc/init.d/vsftpd start
[11:53] <Mark_> What do you get?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Nikty: depends on the kernel, alsa and pulse versions
[11:53] <Nikty> oh
[11:53] <BluesKaj> lllsondowlll, no offense taken , but I don't experiencew any latency on either audio setup
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Nikty: too many variables to be truely useful but it shows it can be used in Linux
[11:53] <Kartagis> sindri: sudo service vsftpd start
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Nikty: just so you know, the release you are using is only supported til January 2014
[11:54] <lllsondowlll> BluesKaj: I was referring to external cards, M-Audio for example. a GPU works as an external card.
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Nikty: if you are wanting to run a server I recommend 12.04 which is LTS and supported til April 2017
[11:54] <BluesKaj> I use an M-audio card ,it
[11:54] <BluesKaj> s not external
[11:54] <sindri> Mark_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5840108/ is what I get running that.
[11:55] <lllsondowlll> BluesKaj: M-audio studio.
[11:55] <BluesKaj> audiophoile 192 aamof .
[11:55] <Mark_> sindri: service vsftpd start
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Mark_: wish sudo, of course
[11:56] <Nikty> ActionParsnip: :-) thanks, I don't mind 13.4.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Nikty: just so yo uare aware :)
[11:56] <sindri> Kartagis & Mark_ : "vsftpd start/pre-start, process 24720" But still nothing listening on port 21
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> sindri: use nmap to scan locahost
[11:56] <Mark_> sindri: ps -ef | grep vsftpd
[11:57] <Mark_> See the process running?
[11:57] <lllsondowlll> BluesKaj: Audio processing is not done by onboard audio card.  Example here is that ATI has an onboard realtek hardware engine. My motherboard is intel. These 2 do not communicate. Thus I cannot use my HDMI audio port without a proper driver for that specific hardware ID
[11:57] <BluesKaj> lllsondowlll, this M-audio card is a pci , it does the spdif duties to my HT , and hdmi (via DVI) is available if needed
[11:58] <sindri> Mark_: "andreas  24756 24148  0 13:56 pts/2    00:00:00 grep --color=auto vsftpd" is returned, so I'm guessing that means Grep is running? not vsftpd.
[11:58] <Mark_> sindri: The process isn't starting for some reason, look into the vsftpd logs
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> sindri: yes, if you pipe to:   grep -v grep     then you will not see grep running in the output
[12:00] <lllsondowlll> BluesKaj: without the ATI driver that comes with realtek I am unable to use it. It is not listed as an audio device. After installing the latest ATI driver I do recieve it as recognised. I am not recieving this with the drivers provided from repo
[12:00] <sindri> ActionParsnip: Thanks will remember that, also I'll have to get nmap to return to you with results.
[12:01] <lllsondowlll> BluesKaj: I am assuming the intermitting issues have to do with pulse in the cpu, it is at regular intervals.
[12:01] <Mark_> sindri: ActionParsnip: Why are you guys running nmap when the service isn't even showing up in ps -ef?
[12:01] <BluesKaj> lllsondowlll, I guess intel and ati don't work together very well, whereas my intel onboard and nvidia graphics work well together ., so I guess it;'s apples and oranges
[12:01] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: what hardware?
[12:02] <lllsondowlll> BluesKaj: More or less so with similar chipset.
[12:02] <BluesKaj> lllsondowlll,pavucontrol might solve your input outputsettings , and give a more solid setting
[12:02] <sindri> Mark_: Good point... installed nmap for future use though. But any idea why the service won't start? Does it require a system reboot?
[12:02] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: ATI 7950 OC 3GB
[12:03] <Mark_> sindri: no, look into the vsftpd log
[12:04] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: what kernel?
[12:04] <lllsondowlll> BluesKaj: This will def be a work around if all else fails thank you for the information
[12:05] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: what's the lspci line relating to it?
[12:05] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Right now shadowlag@Gigabyte-Linux:~$ uname -r 3.8.0-25-generic
[12:05] <nevyn> that's fine..
[12:06] <sindri> Mark_: hm.. weird there is no vsftpd log in /var/log/
[12:07] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: http://pastebin.com/DPyWCr46
[12:09] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Right now it should be noted I am not using any ATI driver at the moment, I can come back after I re-enable it but it is the same situation and the overscan is terrible.
[12:10] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: you never answered how you installed it?
[12:10] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: referring to the repo ATI driver of course
[12:11] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Repo driver works, but without ccc control which causes underscanning and I also tried it from the website. which works but the audio intermits quite a bit
[12:13] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Does this answer your question?
[12:13] <nevyn> hangon so you've done all the things?
[12:14] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: "hangon so you've done all the things?" if by that you mean re-installed ubuntu with repo driver, AMD driver, and attempted with a new kernel before starting back at square once than yes I've done "all the things"
[12:15] <nevyn> ah
[12:15] <nevyn> I thought you'd tried to make that all work in one install and I'm like that's going to be a mess...
[12:15] <nevyn> ;)
[12:15] <nevyn> so if the repo drivers work.. what's the problem?
[12:16] <nevyn> so underscanning can be fixed with ccc or xrandr right?
[12:16] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Repo drive = No HDMI audio | CCC driver = Intermitting audio | Proposed new kernel fixes this (3.9.0) = No internet connection
[12:17] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: If that gives you a better idea of where I'm at
[12:17] <nevyn> ok.
[12:17] <nevyn> ok.
[12:17] <nevyn> there are MULTIPLE drivers for this card in the repo
[12:18] <nevyn> well in the non-free repos too.
[12:18] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: You don't say?
[12:18] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: I have only been using 1.
[12:18] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: I would be happy to try other.
[12:18] <nevyn> there is an official way to install the fglrx driver for ubuntu.
[12:18] <nevyn> it is not to download it from the website.
[12:19] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: I have done it through the driver management tool.
[12:19] <nevyn> ok.
[12:19] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: initially. Both containing fglrx-updates and fglrx
[12:20] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: fglrx-updates works as fglrx but with an amd water mark complaining it is not the correct hardware.
[12:20] <nevyn> so what driver are you using right now?
[12:20] <nevyn> fglrx or radeon?
[12:21] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Gallium atm since I am on a fresh install
[12:21] <nevyn> ok
[12:22] <nevyn> and the problem with this... is... underscan?
[12:22] <pilsa> hi folks ... can you recommend any single-player pattern recognition games on ubuntu, similar to mahjongg ...?
[12:22] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Again no HDMI audio output
[12:22] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Under the fglrx driver official
[12:22] <nevyn> it doesn't show up in /proc/asound/cards ?
[12:22] <nevyn> huh?
[12:23] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Let me explain better.
[12:23] <nevyn> ok if you're using radeon right now (which is the driver that uses the gallium3d infrastructure...
[12:23] <BluesKaj> lllsondowlll, try this for the hdmi poblem , there was bug with alsa -hdmi , which you may have encountered  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily
[12:24] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: I have tried the following. Gallium, flgrx, flgrx-updates from the software&updates driver section. No HDMI audio is shown. I have tried AMD CCC from the website, functions fine however intermitting audio ensues.
[12:25] <nevyn> no audio on any driver?
[12:26] <nevyn> Gallium is not an Xorg driver... it's infrastructure for a 3d driver.
[12:28] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: I am using x.org currently..
[12:29] <nevyn> so the xorg part of the free driver is "radeon"
[12:32] <lllsondowlll> configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
[12:32] <nevyn> right
[12:32] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: So yes radeon
[12:32] <nevyn> so you don't get a audio endpoint using the radeon driver AT ALL?
[12:32] <nevyn> cat /proc/asound/cards doesn't list it?
[12:33] <nevyn> yeah it's not implemented...
[12:33] <lllsondowlll> HDA ATI HDMI at 0xf7e60000 irq 48
[12:33] <nevyn> hrm
[12:34] <lllsondowlll> Its there but not shown in unity audio settings.
[12:34] <nevyn> if you do alsamixer -c "HDA ATI HDMI"
[12:34] <nevyn> does anything show up?
[12:34] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: are there any video output issues with the free driver?
[12:35] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: alsamixer -c "HDA ATI HDMI"
[12:35] <nevyn> mmm...
[12:35] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: The one I am currently on no, but when switching to fglrx for graphics acceleration I recieve underscan which I am used to accross OS's not limited to windows without ccc
[12:36] <lllsondowlll> invalid card index: HDA ATI HDMI
[12:37] <nevyn> what's the EXACT output of cat /proc/asound/cards?
[12:37] <BluesKaj> lllsondowlll, what's the output of dkms status , in pastebin
[12:37] <mrtAkdeniz> Hi guys
[12:38] <mrtAkdeniz> Is there any alternative program for Adobe Dreamweaver on Ubuntu? I want WYSIWYG and Code editor in same program
[12:38] <lllsondowlll> http://pastebin.com/5x46NSFK
[12:39] <occ> wysiwyg is rubbish
[12:39] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: alsamixer -c HDMI
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> mrtAkdeniz  there isnt, dreamweaver is the oly program i miss in linux, too
[12:40] <mrtAkdeniz> Oh no :\
[12:40] <lllsondowlll> BluesKaj: ?
[12:40] <Sunny_> hello all
[12:40] <syntax_error> good morning
[12:40] <mrtAkdeniz> MonkeyDust, Have you ever used DW on Wine?
[12:41] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: I know have a graphic UI
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> mrtAkdeniz  I have but not for long
[12:41] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Text based I should say
[12:41] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: now.
[12:41] <mrtAkdeniz> Is there any issue? MonkeyDust
[12:41] <Sunny_> i want to install ubuntu alongside windows, plz tell me the which version to install and how to install.
[12:41] <mrtAkdeniz> Sorry, Was*
[12:41] <nevyn> ah neato. it should only have one box in the middle of it?
[12:41] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: ? Yes at this moment I have a text based UI
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> mrtAkdeniz  no, but better try it yourself to find out
[12:41] <BluesKaj> lllsondowlll , dkms status , gives which media drivers are presently installed
[12:41] <mrtAkdeniz> Sunny_, Last version of Ubuntu is 13.04 , but there are a lot of version of ubuntu
[12:42] <dazzle> Is Ubuntu ZFS viable?
[12:42] <mrtAkdeniz> Could you please give your computers information to me?
[12:42] <mrtAkdeniz> MonkeyDust, Ok, thanks bro :)
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> !dualboot | Sunny_
[12:42] <BluesKaj> lllsondowlll, let me rephrase , being used and loaded
[12:42] <nevyn> dazzle: the sun community licence and gplv2 are fundamentally incompatible.
[12:43] <nevyn> so while you can build zfs for linux and use it. you can't distribut the combined bineary.
[12:43] <lllsondowlll> BluesKaj: One moment dpkg is using something
[12:44] <dazzle> nevyn: I meant performance/reliability -wise
[12:45] <lllsondowlll> BluesKaj: Output is not returned
[12:45] <nevyn> dazzle: because of the licencing issues it's impossible to take seriously imho
[12:45] <dazzle> nevyn: Okay. That's sad to hear :/ I compiled a RAID 5 array, let it settle for a week, then tried it. The write performance is horrible.
[12:45] <nevyn> becuase it requires it be built by the end user it can't be integrated into distributions etc etc...
[12:46] <nevyn> dazzle: which version are you using?
[12:46] <dazzle> 12.04 server
[12:46] <nevyn> the fuse stuff performance is aweful.
[12:46] <dazzle> created simple array with mdadm, have 3 x 2 TB
[12:46] <nevyn> there's a native port by some crazy people which performs ok but.. yeah..
[12:46] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Alsomixer showed my radeon card however it seemed to have been labeled incorrectly under R6xxx
[12:46] <BluesKaj> lllsondowlll, recommend you install dkms
[12:46] <Sunny_> ubuntu 12.04
[12:46] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: no that's what it is.
[12:47] <nevyn> BluesKaj: why?
[12:47] <lllsondowlll> Bluekaj: What I mean by no output is that it installed.
[12:47] <lllsondowlll> Bluekaj: It is not outputting information back
[12:47] <lllsondowlll> Bluekaj: ie "dkms status" = drop down for command input
[12:48] <BluesKaj> DKMS is a framework designed to allow individual kernel modules to be upgraded without changing the whole kernel.
[12:48] <lllsondowlll> BluesKaj: You wanted me to attempt to run dkms status
[12:48] <lllsondowlll> Blueskahj: correct?
[12:48] <nevyn> I know but how does that help with the problem?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> ll yes i assumed you had dkms installed , nm
[12:49] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: it's actually a south islands gpu (Tahiti)
[12:49] <BluesKaj> lllsondowlll,^
[12:50] <BluesKaj> you obviously don't seem to need my help , so I'll back off , lllsondowlll
[12:51] <lllsondowlll> BluesKaj: I installed dkms, dkms status was ran, dkms status returned no output at all
[12:51] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: is it muted in alsamixer (mm)
[12:52] <klrr> what's the login program called?
[12:52] <klrr> login manager*
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> klrr  lightdm
[12:52] <auronandace> klrr: the default is lightdm
[12:52] <klrr> how do i add window manager options?
[12:52] <klrr> thanks!
[12:52] <klrr> how do i add window manager options?
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> klrr  install a DE, it adds automatically in the list
[12:53] <klrr> how do i add a window manager to the options?
[12:53] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: spdif/1-3 00 spdif/4-5 mm
[12:54] <klrr> how do i add a window manager to the options?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> lllsondowlll, that means you have no kernel drivers installed
[12:54] <klrr> MonkeyDust: that doesnt answer my question
[12:54] <blazemore> klrr: Yes it does
[12:54] <klrr> blazemore: no it doesnt
[12:54] <lllsondowlll> BluesKaj: Is there something specific I should do next?
[12:54] <blazemore> klrr: Install a desktop environment or window manager, then choose it from the list
[12:54] <auronandace> klrr: are you installing from the repos?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> klrr  then maybe you should rephrase or elaborate
[12:55] <klrr> blazemore: i asked how i added a window manager to the options, he told me i should install a whole dekstop environemnt
[12:55] <blazemore> klrr: What window manager are you trying to install?
[12:55] <klrr> MonkeyDust: i have a window manager installed, in /usr/local/* and now i wanna add it to lightdm menu
[12:55] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: can you try speaker-test -c 2 -d HDMI
[12:55] <klrr> blazemore: home-made
[12:55] <klrr> i usually launch it through .xinitrc
[12:55] <blazemore> klrr: You coded your own window manager but aren't confident enough to boot into it?
[12:55] <klrr> but now im on ubuntu
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> klrr  window managers don't appear in the menu, desktop environments do
[12:56] <heikoo> is there any program that can monitor the clipboard for links and safe them to a file? (only the link, not the content of the link)
[12:56] <afoeder> hi there
[12:56] <klrr> blazemore: confident? wot
[12:56] <blazemore> klrr: Look in /usr/share/xsessions/
[12:56] <klrr> HOW DO I ADD IT TO THE MENU; WHAT FILE SHOOULD I EDIT OR ADD TO MAKE IT APPEAR THERE?
[12:56] <klrr> thanks
[12:56] <afoeder> I have some (PHP related) errors on my web hoster's environment which I'd like to examine further
[12:56] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: You sure we are looking at the same thing? I believe what you are asking me to do is speaker test onboard HDMI not the ATI one
[12:56] <blazemore> klrr: Look at one of the .desktop files in there and copy one, then modify it to your needs
[12:56] <klrr> blazemore: THAT answers my question
[12:57] <klrr> i didnt ask how to install a FUCKING DE MonkeyDust !
[12:57] <blazemore> klrr: I didn't know that, I just Googled it.  I would like to partition it in a way that I can have both OSs, and not lose any data from the windows partition. Could anyone help?
[13:00] <TheUsD> Nobody is home on the truecrypt channel, thought I would post here:
[13:00] <TheUsD> Just went through the truecrypt wizzard and created a volume within a partition/drive, made it a standard truecrypt volume, chose my raid1 volume, formated it. My question is, now that it is formated as an encrypted drive, does that mean anytime I drop a file on the drive it will be encrypted?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> lllsondowlll, add this line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, options snd-hda-intel index=0 , save the file and reboot ...it should sodify the Card=0 (defaultaudio driver)
[13:01] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: did you run speaker test?
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> jackarg_  ask in #debian
[13:01] <klrr> ubottu: professional? i dont see any professional in using insanely bad libraries which could easily be changed to using good old sockets and pipes instead, what the heck is wrong with json and company, why do they have to use XML for config files?
[13:01] <lllsondowlll> Just so I am clear, we are still on the subject of tackling why in my ubuntu 13.04 using the radeon driver that the ATI HDMI audio device isn't showing up or not acting loaded correct?
[13:01] <klrr> ubottu: professional? i dont see any professional in using insanely bad libraries which could easily be changed to using good old sockets and pipes instead, what the heck is wrong with json and company, why do they have to use XML for config files?
[13:01] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Yes no audio output
[13:01] <jackarg_> MonkeyDust, it's the same thing as ubuntu, all I need is someone who can help me partition step by step
[13:02] <foo357> Hello. I'm having some issues with cron... specifically when jobs are triggered.
[13:02] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: speaker-test -c2 -d hw:2,3 after unmuting the output in alsamixer
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> jackarg_  type   /join #debian      to get debian support
[13:02] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: How do I unmute it?
[13:03] <adamk> lllsondowlll: At one point, you needed to pass radeon.audio=1 to the kernel when booting to enable HDMI audio with the radeon driver.  Not sure it's still necessary, but have you tried that?
[13:03] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: m
[13:03] <jacks_cool> helo
[13:03] <jacks_cool> hello*
[13:03] <dazzle> Locking a specific user to his home directory: chroot method OR restricted SSH OR both?
[13:04] <jacks_cool> I am facing somw difficulties during boot up in ubuntu 12.10
[13:04] <jacks_cool> some*
[13:04] <jacks_cool> The problem is I am constantly getting a black screen after the boot up screen
[13:05] <auronandace> !nomodeset | jacks_cool
[13:05] <blazemore> auronandace: Beat me to it
[13:05] <jacks_cool> I randomly pressed some key and it showed that grub was not able to load due to full hard disk space.
[13:05] <blazemore> jacks_cool: I think you have possibly answered your own question there
[13:06] <jacks_cool> But how can I empty my disk space?
[13:06] <jacks_cool> Without starting it.
[13:06] <compdoc> Live cd
[13:06] <blazemore> jacks_cool: You can boot from a Live CD or USB
[13:06] <jacks_cool> I am not able to view any files in windows
[13:06] <gregor3005> hi, does anybody know how i can install a newer version of freecad as the release which i found with apt ?
[13:06] <adamk> I really wish people would stop suggesting nomodeset...
[13:06] <compdoc> adamk, yeah, its usually not helpful
[13:07] <jacks_cool> Can you please briefly explain me how will live CD help me?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> gregor3005  if you want soemthing beyond the repos, you need a !ppa, but that's not supported here
[13:07] <adamk> Dropping people into X with the vesa driver is not a solution.
[13:07] <gregor3005> MonkeyDust: ok, thx. then i install it from the sources
[13:07] <blazemore> jacks_cool: The LiveCD will allow you to browse the files on your Ubuntu system, including deleting them or moving them to another drive
[13:07] <jacks_cool> I mean what sort of options do I need to look for.
[13:07] <jacks_cool> ah thanks blazemore. I will try iy.
[13:07] <vladovescu> Hello,everyone! I think I have a problem with Anki: it refuses to download shared decks. Does anybody know why?
[13:07] <blazemore> jacks_cool: It might be helpful if you told us the *exact* error Grub is giving you
[13:07] <blazemore> jacks_cool: In case that is a red herring
[13:07] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Again what was the command to bring up alsamixer, I would scroll up in my term but it isn't repeating the command. I would also search in IRC but the webbased version I am using knocks me back down when someone posts before I can glance at it
[13:08] <blazemore> lllsondowlll: it's just "alsamixer"
[13:08] <jacks_cool> blazemore I will get back with exact message soon
[13:08] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: alsamixer -c HDMI
[13:08] <adamk> jacks_cool: When booting off the new Ubuntu installation, can you edit the kernel line in grub and pass 'video=640x480' to the kernel?
[13:08] <jacks_cool> adamk: I have been using ubuntu for a quite some time
[13:09] <jacks_cool> and this is the first time I am facing such issue.
[13:09] <jacks_cool> Does full hard disk stops grub from loading?
[13:09] <blazemore> jacks_cool: Did anything happen in between "it working" and "it not working"?
[13:09] <jacks_cool> blazemore: When I boot ubuntu
[13:09] <jacks_cool> I get a pink screen
[13:09] <blazemore> jacks_cool: like a kernel update or you messing around with graphics drivers or something?
[13:09] <jacks_cool> which is soon followed by black screen
[13:09] <adamk> jacks_cool: I can not make sense of "Does full hard disk stops grub from loading?"
[13:09] <jacks_cool> blazemore: nothing sort of that.
[13:10] <blazemore> jacks_cool: Can you boot previous kernels by selecting one from the Grub menu?
[13:10] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Running speaker test now.
[13:10] <blazemore> brb
[13:10] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: nothing?
[13:10] <jacks_cool> I tried several options in recovery mode.
[13:10] <jacks_cool> But none of them works
[13:10] <auronandace> jacks_cool: usually when the harddisk is full it prevents you from logging in, it shouldn't prevent you from booting as far as i have known
[13:10] <adamk> jacks_cool: Have you tried passing video=640x480 to the kernel?
[13:10] <jacks_cool> adamk: Idk abt that.
[13:11] <jacks_cool> What I get is simple black screen with no info at all
[13:11] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Nothing, also in alsamixer it is showing 00's across the board
[13:11] <jacks_cool> I press some buttons randomly.
[13:11] <nevyn> try
[13:11] <jacks_cool> and is shows some message...
[13:11] <jacks_cool> then again it is black.
[13:12] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: is there any output at all?
[13:12] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Not in audio no
[13:12] <jacks_cool> bootup->pink screen-> black screen
[13:12] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: what's this connected to btw? just a stereo pair or a ht 7.1 or what?
[13:13] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Stereo with passthrough to 5.1
[13:13] <nevyn> via spdif? or hdmi out?
[13:13] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: HDMI out
[13:14] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: if youd aplay -L
[13:14] <nevyn> and look for the entries labeled CARD=HDMI
[13:14] <nevyn> actually.. could you pastebin that for me?
[13:14] <Pici> nevyn, lllsondowlll: I'm not sure this helps, but I had trouble getting my Radeon 3000HD series card to output over HDMI, but was able to get it to work once I installed the proprietary drivers.
[13:14] <nevyn> mmm..
[13:14] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Yes there is a ton
[13:15] <Pici> I'm using fglrx-legacy now, as the regular fglrx package doesn't support it anymore (its from a PPA)
[13:15] <thunder1212> i have a pendrive and i am trying to format it but am not able to i have tried with gparted also.. it gives error no partition table found
[13:15] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: ok try this...
[13:15] <lllsondowlll> Pici: Yes I did that, and it worked but the sound was intermitting quite a bit. I then got the message from the rest of the IRC that they will not help with the proprietary unless installed from the repo
[13:16] <nevyn> speaker-test -t wav -Dplughw:2
[13:16] <thunder1212> and when i try to create parition table it gives error unable to create partition table
[13:16] <lllsondowlll> Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels WAV file(s) Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory
[13:16] <jacks_cool> What do I need to do?
[13:16] <thunder1212> any way by which it can be formated
[13:17] <nevyn> speaker-test -t wav -Dplughw:2,3
[13:17] <jacks_cool> I have tried almost each and every bit
[13:17] <thunder1212> any testing i can do?
[13:17] <jacks_cool> I have some imporant data in it.
[13:17] <thunder1212> should i try installing os on it?
[13:17] <adamk> jacks_cool: So you can't actually see the grub boot screen? Only the BIOS posting?
[13:17] <thunder1212> help??
[13:17] <Novarg> hi boys and girls, is there any way to revert the skype tray behavior to 'normal', i.e. have left click activate the main window?
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> jacks_cool  for one: backup important data
[13:18] <thunder1212> monkey
[13:18] <jacks_cool> adamk: If I press shift key then only I get to see my grub screen having 2 options.
[13:18] <thunder1212> hi
[13:18] <lllsondowlll> You know guys its cool I do appreciate the help
[13:18] <jacks_cool> One is ubuntu and other one is advanced options
[13:18] <adamk> jacks_cool: OK, so go into the grub menu, edit the kernel boot line and pass the option I have now mentioned to you twice.
[13:18] <lllsondowlll> I will just go about trying to get this new kernel to work and see what I can do with official drivers from ATI.
[13:19] <jacks_cool> the video one
[13:19] <jacks_cool> ?
[13:19] <lllsondowlll> This is just too much of a mess
[13:19] <adamk> Yes, video=640x480
[13:19] <Guest31359> I'm using xubuntu, but nobody in the channel is responding to this maybe I can get help here?
[13:19] <jacks_cool> how should I pass that?
[13:19] <jacks_cool> will there be a option for video over there?
[13:19] <thunder1212> i am using ubuntu 12.04
[13:19] <adamk> jacks_cool: Edit the kernel line and add video=640x480 at the end.
[13:19] <crusaderad> Guest31359 what's your issue?
[13:19] <columb> How do I set ubuntu default OS in grub menu?
[13:19] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: so.. the issue is.
[13:20] <jacks_cool> ok will try and get back.
[13:20] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: that most likely one of the subdevices of HDMI is what you want you should just check all 4
[13:20] <nevyn> or however many there are.
[13:20] <thunder1212> raspberry pi
[13:20] <Guest31359> I'm trying to boot toram, the f6 option is not available, and I tried toram both before and after the --
[13:21] <columb> Which one is windows and which one is ubuntu? http://pastebin.com/u8bXh29t
[13:21] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: The problem is that ubuntu doesn't even work with it with these drivers and I def must have CCC as well as a few other things. The newest kernel will help me correct the intermitting issues with audio as I heard from a fellow 7950 user. I just need it to not break my internet
[13:22] <lllsondowlll> I'll be taking my leave but thank you for the help
[13:22] <lllsondowlll> #linux
[13:22] <lllsondowlll> oops
[13:22] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: umm...
[13:22] <lllsondowlll> Yeah?
[13:23] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: could you just quickly explain what you mean by "Doesn't even work with these drivers"
[13:23] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: The HDMI audio out is not listed as an active device under sound settings
[13:24] <blazemore> Today I learned that "dir" is aliased to "ls" - is this an Ubuntu thing?
[13:24] <adamk> lllsondowlll: Did you try my suggestion of passing radeon.audio=1 to the kernel?
[13:24] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Driver compiled with Ubuntu/raring does
[13:24] <wilee-nilee> columb, There is an app called grub customizer for a gui type, or you can edit /etc/default/grub what you posted just lists part of grub2.
[13:24] <execut3> How can I have a service (sshd) listen on all internal IP addresses (192.168.1.X)?
[13:24] <lllsondowlll> adamk: Not as of yet.
[13:25] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: ok. so that's frustrating. the bit I want to know is if it's working at a drvier level and it's just a pulseaudio /udev discovery problem
[13:25] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: I would be more than happy to give you any information you require
[13:26] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: as the alsa subsystem does know about the card
[13:26] <nevyn> I'd like to know what the output of aplay -L is
[13:26] <wilee-nilee> columb, here is the wiki for using /etc/default/grub   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS   Don't forget to update-grub after doing this.
[13:27] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: is HDMI still at index 2 in /proc/asound/cards?
[13:27] <nevyn> 2: [HDMI    ] ..... ATI HDMI
[13:27] <lllsondowlll> http://pastebin.com/njBtV4dB
[13:28] <lllsondowlll> ' 2 [HDMI           ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI                       HDA ATI HDMI at 0xf7e60000 irq 48
[13:29] <Guest50662> hello
[13:29] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Also keep in mind I have 4 HDMI slots, 1 on my card, 1 onboard , and 2 on my capture
[13:29] <nevyn> right.
[13:29] <nevyn> but that HDMI is only the ati card...
[13:30] <nevyn> is the capture card also ati?
[13:30] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: alright
[13:30] <nevyn> so it has 4 sub devices 0,1,2,3
[13:30] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: No I am just listing specifics not that it pertains to this situation but for future refrences
[13:30] <lllsondowlll> It doesn't have a 3
[13:30] <nevyn> please test using speaker-test -t wav -Dplughw:2,0
[13:31] <nevyn> incrementing the last number through to 3
[13:31] <nevyn> so
[13:31] <nevyn> please test using speaker-test -t wav -Dplughw:2,1
[13:31] <Guest50662> easy
[13:31] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: the realtek chip implements 4 hdmi endpoints...
[13:32] <lllsondowlll> Playback device is plughw:2,0 Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels WAV file(s) Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory
[13:32] <nevyn> hrm
[13:32] <lllsondowlll> Playback device is plughw:2,1 Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels WAV file(s) Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory shadowlag@Gigabyte-Linux:~$ sudo speaker-test -t wav -Dplughw:2,0
[13:32] <nevyn> oh..
[13:32] <nevyn> oh..
[13:32] <nevyn> needs -c 2
[13:33] <lllsondowlll> Playback device is plughw:2,1 Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory
[13:34] <marianne> hi guys... new problem... 12.04 64 bit VLC 2.0.8 ...playing blu-rays... i had them playing a few days ago and now I'm getting the error that I need libaacs.so.0, I downloaded the file but I can't seem to move it where it needs to be to work
[13:34] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: forget about -t wav
[13:34] <nevyn> and get rid of plug
[13:34] <nevyn> so speaker-test -c 2 -Dhw:2,0
[13:34] <nevyn> I want to see if the open errorr goes away
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> lllsondowlll  is this command useful       play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[13:36] <lllsondowlll> no audio
[13:36] <lllsondowlll> play is not a command
[13:36] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: did you still get an open error with speaker-test -c2 -Dhw:2,0 ?
[13:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> question. I regularly telnet into my router to tweak nsh settings, and usually manually do "netcat ip port | tee yy-mm-dd.#.log" to keep track of changes in case I screw something up. is there a way to automatically set the date & increment the # value if a file exists?
[13:37] <lllsondowlll> Playback device is hw:2,0 Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory
[13:37] <nevyn> please try the other 3 subdevices?
[13:38] <lllsondowlll> 3 is the only one displaying an output
[13:38] <lllsondowlll> no audio
[13:38] <nevyn> ooh
[13:38] <nevyn> what's it do?
[13:38] <lllsondowlll> test left
[13:38] <lllsondowlll> test right
[13:38] <lllsondowlll> test left
[13:39] <lllsondowlll> test... you get the picture
[13:39] <nevyn> cool so it IS 3
[13:39] <nevyn> alsamixer -c HDMI
[13:39] <nevyn> do you see 4 00's?
[13:39] <blazemore> ntzrmtthihu777: "nc ip port | tee `date %y-%m-%d`" will write to (for example) 13-07-03, but not sure about the autoincrement
[13:40] <blazemore> ntzrmtthihu777: those are backticks ````` by the way
[13:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: we meet again :P
[13:40] <nevyn> the tv is on and displaying a picture right?
[13:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, non-shifted tildas, right?
[13:40] <blazemore> depends on your keyboard layout, but on mine (United Kingdom), yes
[13:40] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Seriously? lol
[13:41] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: yeah. most tv's won't accept audio without a pic.
[13:41] <nevyn> but it is..
[13:41] <nevyn> It's nearly midnight here ;)
[13:41] <lllsondowlll> nevyn:  Yeah...
[13:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: a bit closer, thankya. I was thinking in that direction, but it printed a literal %d in the filename. I was missing the backticks, lol. I think %n is what I need for the other bit....
[13:41] <lllsondowlll> nevyn:  I'm on my tv lol
[13:42] <blazemore> ntzrmtthihu777: no, look what happens when you just run "date %y-%m-%d"
[13:42] <nevyn> so leave the speakertest -c2 -Dhw:2,3 running and turn the tv up
[13:42] <blazemore> ntzrmtthihu777: The backticks just mean "insert the output of this command here"
[13:42] <lllsondowlll> My sound system is always at 60
[13:42] <lllsondowlll> I would hear that trust me
[13:42] <blazemore> ntzrmtthihu777: the %y etc syntax is part of date, see "man date" for more info
[13:42] <lllsondowlll> I did have it working before
[13:42] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: bear with me try -c6
[13:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: yeah, I getcha. actialy running date without did not do it...
[13:43] <lllsondowlll> I think its because of my last clean install I used the compiler before I ran the ubuntu update thus changing the kernel
[13:43] <jacks_cool> The problem got solved.
[13:44] <jacks_cool> The Hard disk space was issue due to which it was running  very slow
[13:44] <blazemore> lllsondowlll: http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/126713-file-name-suffix-running-number.html
[13:44] <lllsondowlll> sudo speaker-test -c6 wav -Dhw:2,1
[13:44] <blazemore> jacks_cool: It's best to leave at least 10% of the space on your disk free (more if you can spare it)
[13:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: nope, returns "bash: fg: %y-%m-%d: no such job" :/
[13:44] <lllsondowlll> Playback device is hw:2,1 Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 6 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory shadowlag@Gigabyte-Linux:~$
[13:44] <jacks_cool> Is it possible to increase more disk space?
[13:44] <blazemore> ntzrmtthihu777: Sorry, what does?
[13:45] <jacks_cool> After installation.
[13:45] <blazemore> jacks_cool: Do you live in the usa?
[13:45] <jacks_cool> blazemore: India
[13:45] <blazemore> jacks_cool: www.amazon.in
[13:45] <blazemore> jacks_cool: buy a bigger hard disk
[13:45] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: don't worry about anything other than hw:2,3
[13:46] <blazemore> jacks_cool: If you're dual-booting, you could boot from a LiveCD, run the partition manager, and resize your WIndows parittion to be smaller, and your Ubuntu one to be bigger
[13:46] <Pici> blazemore, ntzrmtthihu777: date +%y-%m-%d
[13:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: the "nc ip port | tee `%y-%m-%d`" command
[13:46] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: that was my mistake I repeated an old command
[13:46] <lllsondowlll> Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy
[13:46] <lllsondowlll> there is the correct one
[13:46] <lllsondowlll> ^
[13:47] <lllsondowlll> I guess it's busy not working.
[13:47] <Pici> blazemore, ntzrmtthihu777: you need to put a + in front of the date format.
[13:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Pici: the date command is not really what I'm after here. I just wish to be able to keep track of my telnet logs automaticaly using the yy-mm-dd.#.log naming format.
[13:47] <Duologic> I have a Ubuntu server "precise" with Samba 3.6.3 running, is it safe to add quantal repositories to apt sources to upgrade to Samba 3.6.6? or at least, will it work?
[13:47] <blazemore> ntzrmtthihu777: Do they have to be numbers at the end like 1,2,3 etc?
[13:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Pici: well the date + yadayada did it :P
[13:47] <blazemore> ntzrmtthihu777: Or do they only have to be different?
[13:47] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: is the other speaker test still running?
[13:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: whatya mean?
[13:47] <jacks_cool> blazemore: thanks for the piece of advice
[13:48] <jacks_cool> I will try that :)
[13:48] <blazemore> ntzrmtthihu777: Because you could use %s for unix timestamp, which changes once per second
[13:48] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Not visibly no
[13:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: ah, I getcah. honestly as long as they are incrementally different it doesnt matter.
[13:49] <drasko> hi all, I am booting ubuntu on Wandboard (i.MX6), and in the end it pauses before presenting me login screen. This pause takes long time, without any print on the console. Where to look?
[13:49] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: fuser /dev/snd/*C2*
[13:49] <lllsondowlll> fuser /dev/snd/*C2*
[13:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: so I should do "netcat ip port | tee `date +%y-%m-%d.%s`.log and it should work?
[13:50] <jacks_cool> blazemore: Can we directly increase space from disk management in windows?
[13:50] <lllsondowlll>    /dev/snd/controlC2:   1869  3067 /dev/snd/pcmC2D3p:    4593m
[13:50] <jacks_cool> Will it effect the system in any way?
[13:50] <blazemore> jacks_cool: Ideally no, but obviously back up before messing around with your partitions
[13:50] <nevyn> ps -ef|grep 4593
[13:50] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: or pgrep 4593
[13:50] <blazemore> jacks_cool: It's one of the most potentially destructive operations it's possible to do on a system
[13:51] <nevyn> which is shorter ;)
[13:51] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, for what OS?
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> jacks_cool  that's what I said earlier: first backup
[13:51] <lllsondowlll> root      4593  4592  0 08:38 ?        00:00:00 speaker-test -c2 -Dhw:2,3 1000      4774  4673  0 08:50 pts/9    00:00:00 grep --color=auto 4593
[13:51] <blazemore> jacks_cool: But don't let that scare you - the graphical tool makes resizing very easy
[13:51] <zephyr> I had to remove PulseAudio; what is a good alternative that I can use to control my audio?
[13:51] <lllsondowlll> Seems like its being used
[13:51] <drasko> hi all, I am booting ubuntu on Wandboard (i.MX6), and in the end it pauses before presenting me login screen. This pause takes long time, without any print on the console. Where to look?
[13:51] <blazemore> zephyr: Why did you have to remove pulse?
[13:51] <jacks_cool> I think partition manager will be a good option
[13:51] <nevyn> zephyr: pulseaudio...?
[13:51] <nevyn> why did you remove it?
[13:51] <jacks_cool> to increase my disk space
[13:51] <zephyr> blazemore: xmbc wasn't playing nice with it for some reason.
[13:51] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: A way to force quit?
[13:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> Pici: blazemore: thankya, this got me what I needed :P
[13:52] <jacks_cool> wille-nille: Ubuntu
[13:52] <blazemore> zephyr: Fix that in xbmc, don't just blindly remove pulseaudio
[13:52] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: kill 4593
[13:52] <nevyn> you probably want sudo for that.
[13:52] <Duologic> I have a Ubuntu server "precise" with Samba 3.6.3 running, is it safe to add quantal repositories to apt sources to upgrade to Samba 3.6.6? or at least, will it work?
[13:52] <jacks_cool> I have my ubuntu disk of 18gn
[13:52] <jacks_cool> gb*
[13:52] <jacks_cool> out of which 17gn is full
[13:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> Duologic: bad idea, most times.
[13:52] <jacks_cool> gb*
[13:52] <FloodBot1> jacks_cool: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:52] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, I have not followed your posts, your asking to expand ubuntu from windows?
[13:53] <jacks_cool> The disk space in ubuntu is to be increased.
[13:53] <lllsondowlll> Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 6 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise Channels count (6) not available for playbacks: Invalid argument Setting of hwparams failed: Invalid argument
[13:53] <blazemore> OK jacks_cool so you should boot from the live CD, then run the partition editor. Find your Windows partition and shrink it, then find your Ubuntu partition and expand it into the free space
[13:53] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, This a wubi install?
[13:53] <nevyn> jacks_cool: lllsondowlll ok. that's it hating 6 ch..
[13:53] <Duologic> ntzrmtthihu777: any reason why it is a bad idea?
[13:53] <jacks_cool> yes it is a wubi install.
[13:54] <lllsondowlll> the sound test runs on 2
[13:54] <auronandace> Duologic: you don't mix releases
[13:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Duologic: perhaps the quantal version of whatever you want to add the source from depends on other quantal stuffs, that precise does not have.
[13:54] <lllsondowlll> but it isn't outputting audio
[13:54] <auronandace> Duologic: things will break
[13:54] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, you can't just exspand that with a partitioner.
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> jacks_cool  wubi is not a real installation
[13:54] <blazemore> I'm away for a while (going to do some actual work)
[13:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacks_cool: in general wubi installs are too much of a pita to deal with, and are fails.
[13:54] <blazemore> jacks_cool: If you used wubi you are stuck
[13:54] <blazemore> jacks_cool: Nobody in here would recommend wubi, and we all wish it would go away
[13:54] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: the local speakers on the tv are disabled?
[13:55] <wilee-nilee> ALL OF YOU ADVISED THEM WITHOUT CONFIRMING THIS< LOL
[13:55] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Yes
[13:55] <Duologic> it's only about 10 packages
[13:55] <blazemore> wilee-nilee: And how did you help?
[13:55] <jacks_cool> blazemore: Can I backup my current linux data and import it again in new installation?
[13:55] <wilee-nilee> blazemore, I found they were running a wubi, did you know that.
[13:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacks_cool: why bother using wubi, which will consume disc space and is vulnerable to windows filesystem fragmentation, when you could do a full install and be safe from windows's foibles?
[13:55] <lllsondowlll> nevyn:  odd that this would cause a problem as it passes through to audio system fine with ati ccc driver
[13:56] <blazemore> jacks_cool: Yes of course - copy your important files you want to keep onto a USB flash drive or something, and then copy them back again once you've done your real install
[13:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacks_cool: short of booting wubi, copying your personal data to an exernal source, and then installing again, no. but yeah, yoiu can do it, as blazemore said.
[13:56] <blazemore> jacks_cool: If you are asking "can I turn a wubi installation into a real one?" the short answer is "no"
[13:56] <wilee-nilee> blazemore, Again not true that can be transfered to a partition.
[13:56] <jacks_cool> blazemore: I meant to back up my data only.
[13:57] <adamk> lllsondowlll: If it works with fglrx and not with radeon, you really need to try using the kernel option I mentioned above.  Have you confirmed that the radeon driver supports HDMI audio on your GPU?
[13:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: short answer, not "technically accurate and easy to do" answer :P
[13:57] <wilee-nilee> BS
[13:57] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: can you just check the speakers on the tv I just want to verify it's not some hdcp snafu.
[13:58] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, here is the migrate wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[13:58] <lllsondowlll> adamk: The problem is within the fact that not even fglrx will enable it only CCC drivers
[13:58] <nevyn> I mean it's still totally not usable even if they're outputing sound I know.. but I'm curious
[13:58] <adamk> lllsondowlll: CCC drivers?  Catalyst and fglrx are the same drivers.
[13:58] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: fglrx is the catylst driver
[13:58] <lllsondowlll> adamk: I understand but I'm talking about the website package that comes with CCC
[13:59] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, You have to be careful to be clear on the channel, or you will get bad advice, this is unusual, wubi has its own treatment.
[13:59] <adamk> lllsondowlll: You're really not making much sense to me...
[13:59] <adamk> So I'm done.
[13:59] <zoie> what would be the equivalent for partial orders of deterministic buchi automata for totals orders (words)
[13:59] <theadmin> zoie: ...Wat?
[14:00] <lllsondowlll> adamk: I am speaking about the ATI AMD RADEON WEBSITE driver. not the repo
[14:00] <zephyr> I had to remove PulseAudio and I now have no volume control.  How would I go about replacing that functionality?
[14:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> zoie: was.... was that even english?
[14:00] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: it's the same code.
[14:00] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, Read the wiki simple copy and paste code.
[14:00] <zoie> theadmin: ntzrmtthihu777 sorry this was for #math
[14:00] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: I have no arguement with that, but then please explain to me why my device is not listed
[14:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: is it even worth the effort? and can it go catastropically wrong?
[14:00] <theadmin> zephyr: GNOME is incapable of producing sound via plain ALSA since 3.0. You'll need another desktop environment :/
[14:01] <adamk> lllsondowlll: The website might have a newer version than the repo, but it's the same proprietary driver.  And till you at least try using the kernel option mentioned, I'm done.
[14:01] <theadmin> zephyr: Or just get Pulse back
[14:01] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: When I compile the driver myself it is
[14:01] <nevyn> listed where?
[14:01] <zephyr> theadmin: pulse is the only option now?  That doesn't seem very linuxy.
[14:01] <theadmin> zephyr: I know, the GNOME team is doing some pretty odd stuff recently.
[14:01] <nevyn> zephyr: you could use nas or esd or arts if you want to build them
[14:01] <zephyr> theadmin: But, I've tried reinstalling pulse but now I have no sound at all... where do I need to configure that?
[14:01] <jacks_cool> I think best option will be to copy my important data and reinstall the ubuntu
[14:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> zephyr: welcome to ubuntu, lol. pretty soon it will be mir only, and to heck with x.org and wayland.
[14:02] <nevyn> ntzrmtthihu777: mir shudder..
[14:02] <lllsondowlll> adamk: Well thank you for being so very helpful. I was planning on trying my own method but nevyn wanted me to continue troubleshooting with him so I stuck around, what you are asking requires a reboot and to stop in the middle of what I am doing.
[14:02] <lllsondowlll> adamk: But thank you for being so very short.
[14:02] <zephyr> ntzrmtthihu777: wayland would be nice but I doubt we'll ever see it in a usable state.
[14:02] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: did you turn the speakers on?
[14:02] <theadmin> zephyr: Hm, you'll also need indicator-sound, the volume control thingy
[14:02] <jacks_cool> Can any one link me to steps for live cd installation?
[14:02] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Yes I did
[14:02] <nevyn> zephyr: I'm pretty disappointed that it's not dogfood yet.
[14:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacks_cool: hear hear! and while you're at it, use a separate /home partition if you're allocating any large amount of hdd space to ubuntu.
[14:03] <auronandace> !install | jacks_cool
[14:03] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Process is being used again
[14:03] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, What is the windows version?
[14:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacks_cool: it basically explains itself, step by step.
[14:03] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: fuser /dev/snd/*C2* then pgrep the last number
[14:03] <zephyr> theadmin: I'm using Cinnamon as my environment, by the way.
[14:03] <theadmin> zephyr: That's a GNOME3 fork so...
[14:03] <jacks_cool> I am using windows 7.
[14:03] <nevyn> check if it's speaker-test -c6 and kill it
[14:04] <theadmin> zephyr: But hm. I'm not sure what's the gnome3 volume controller. Might be the same though
[14:04] <zephyr> theadmin: soooooooo Pulse it is
[14:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> zephyr: basically :P
[14:04] <nevyn> theadmin: gnome-volume-control is a pulse app
[14:04] <zephyr> Happen to know what I need to do after installing the pulseaudio package to finish setting it up?
[14:04] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, So you want to resize it with its disk manager leaving a unallocated space for ubuntu, and reboot so it runs its auto chkdsk then install ubuntu to that unallocated space. However there are partition types and amount that are limitations.
[14:05] <theadmin> zephyr: Well you'll need the volume control tool. For Unity that's indicator-sound, but I have no idea about Gnome Shell. Maybe this gnome-volume-control thing nevyn is talking about.
[14:05] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: Process is killed
[14:05] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, Do you have windows backed up an image/ghost/clone, and do yuou have a recovery or install disc?
[14:05] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: speaker-test -c2 -Dhw2,3
[14:06] <zephyr> nevyn: what package is that in?  gnome-volume-control
[14:06] <jacks_cool> wilee-nilee: What will be the steps to uninstall the current wubi part?
[14:06] <lllsondowlll> Playback device is hw2,3 Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM hw2,3 Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory
[14:06] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, You can remove it from the add remove in the control panel.
[14:06] <jacks_cool> wilee-nilee-: I am afraid I don't have one. Does is result in loss of datA?
[14:07] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, YOu can make a recovery disc in W7 small iso for repairs.
[14:07] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: is it still in /proc/asound/cards?
[14:07] <jacks_cool> ah yes I made one I remember to fix grub part as I had formatted my linux drive driectly.
[14:08] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, You should always havea clone, anything can happen especially user error.
[14:08] <lllsondowlll> Yes
[14:08] <lllsondowlll> 2 [HDMI           ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI                       HDA ATI HDMI at 0xf7e60000 irq 48
[14:08] <jacks_cool> So I need to backup my important data from current linux. Format it. Allocate a new space and then run live cd.
[14:08] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: that's odd. it worked a few minutes ago.. and now it's disappeared...
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> !backup | jacks_cool
[14:09] <lllsondowlll> nevyn I did not use the D
[14:09] <lllsondowlll> sudo speaker-test -c2 -Dhw2,3 vs sudo speaker-test -c2 -hw2,3
[14:09] <adamk> lllsondowlll: According to the developers on #radeon, HDMI audio for the HD7950 is not implemented yet in the radeon driver.
[14:09] <rapidx> Has anyone tried to setup a GNUDip server?
[14:09] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, Yes, however you want to know that you can have only 4 primary partitions or 3 primaries with logical partition inside on a single HD. Many windows installs have 4 primaries already.
[14:09] <lllsondowlll> adamk: That is why I was using the websites package
[14:10] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: different software completely
[14:10] <nevyn> hrm
[14:10] <adamk> lllsondowlll: OK, well you said above you were trying to use the radeon driver now, as I recall.
[14:10] <jacks_cool> Yeah.I have 2 for my windows and one for my linux
[14:10] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, Sorry 4the partition is an extended with logicals inside.
[14:10] <vmenezes> just installed ubuntu 13.04 64bits on my Asus U36J, after installing the codecs, connected the HDMI and got impressed that my nVidia was working with no need of any additional driver nor workarounds...after couple hours watching a movie it froze and I figured out that my laptop was extremelly hot! it was the end, my laptop died =/
[14:10] <lllsondowlll> adamk: I am willing to try what ever works. I'll explain again real quick for a recap
[14:10] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, the wubi has no partition it is a file in windows.
[14:10] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: I've got to run and catch the last train.. ;)
[14:11] <lllsondowlll> nevyn: well thanks anyway gf will be waking soon as well
[14:11] <nevyn> lllsondowlll: your only option seems to be fglrx
[14:11] <jacks_cool> What I did was I created a separate partition in windows and installed wubi in there.
[14:11] <nevyn> which makes me sad..
[14:11] <nevyn> but oh well thanks for percevering ;) I hope you sort it out.
[14:12] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, Best thing you can do here is to get the live ubuntu cd and use the channel for the install, making sure who helps ses the partitions on the HD from ubuntu.
[14:12] <wilee-nilee> sees*
[14:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacks_cool: unlikely. wubi is installed as a windows "program", which should be on C: by default. but then again I'm just average joe talking here :P
[14:12] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, Ah well even though you made a partition ubuntu is a file there, not a normal install.
[14:13] <wilee-nilee> !who | jacks_cool
[14:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> or wait, isn't the new win7 "C:" actually "D:" now, due to the little bootloader partition they have?
[14:13] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, no, the 100mb partition is hidden
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> jacks_cool  wubi creates a space *inside* windows, not alongside it, so not independent of it
[14:14] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, Let me say from see what you don't know makes me concerned for your whole setuo. ;)
[14:14] <wilee-nilee> seeing*
[14:14] <lllsondowlll> adamk: radeon: No sound implimented - fglrx(repo): no sound implimented - flgrx-update(repo): No sound implimented - flgrx(AMD)(Not supported in IRC I'm told): Works but the audio is choppy, worked before I did a clean wipe if I remember could be due to the fact last time I installed it before updating on a fresh install and the time it worked was AFTER (theory) - 3.9.0 was told to fix this problem network does not work in this
[14:14] <jacks_cool> ubottu: Got it :)
[14:15] <jacks_cool> ubottu: No worries ;)
[14:15] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, This is not difficult, however there is a process to follow exactly.
[14:16] <lllsondowlll> adamk: So my only option was to work with the kind folk here to help in which ever way they could within their means.
[14:16] <jacks_cool> MonkeyDust: I think formatting it will be a good option
[14:16] <ned_> stupid question..but..is there like a windows task manager for ubuntu.. to close down programs that wont close???
[14:16] <willybilly0101> ps aux
[14:16] <willybilly0101> kill
[14:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: ah. its been about a year since I touched win7
[14:16] <lllsondowlll> ned: sudo xkill
[14:16] <theadmin> ned_: Sure, there's one built in, look up System Monitor in the dash
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> jacks_cool  format what? and don't forget to backup first!
[14:16] <adamk> lllsondowlll: Which is fine...  Except above you said "Just so I am clear, we are still on the subject of tackling why in my ubuntu 13.04 using the radeon driver that the ATI HDMI audio device isn't showing up or not acting loaded correct?"
[14:16] <jacks_cool> wilee-nilee: yeah now I am pretty clear with what wubi does.
[14:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> ned_: graphically: gnome-system-monitor
[14:16] <ned_> ty guys
[14:17] <adamk> lllsondowlll: Are you telling me you knew all along that it wasn't supported with the radeon driver?
[14:17] <jacks_cool> MonkeyDust: format my linux partition and yes backup it first.
[14:17] <lllsondowlll> adamk: I was speaking of HD radeon, I'm sorry I did not clarify.
[14:17] <blazemore> jacks_cool: you don't *have* a real Linux partition

[14:17] <ActionParsnip> lllsondowlll: gksudo for gui apps, not sudo
[14:17] <lllsondowlll> adamk: No I did not know that. I rarely used this.
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> jacks_cool  use a live session, then use gparted to make free space
[14:17] <jacks_cool> MonkeyDust: I had alloted 25gb partition and got only 17gb for linux
[14:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: lol, he means the one he installed it to, even if it was a wubi install ;)
[14:18] <jacks_cool> blazemore: got it ;)
[14:18] <lllsondowlll> adamk: This being this specific driver. as I wish to use amd's flgrx
[14:18] <adamk> lllsondowlll: So you shouldn't have said you were trying to get it working with the "radeon driver"...
[14:19] <jacks_cool> MonkeyDust: the latest release of ubuntu will be the best bet to install?
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> jacks_cool  12.04 if you want long support, 13.04 if you want the latest stuff
[14:20] <theadmin> jacks_cool: I'd say go with the LTS -- more stable, longer support, better for new people imo
[14:20] <lllsondowlll> adamk: The name of the ATI series cards are HD RADEON is it not my fault that developers decided to name a driver after the hardware. Also the genetlemen I was working with well understood what I meant due to my explanation of my situation beforehand. I feel as if you aren't here to help but be an anal rententive asshole.
[14:20] <jacks_cool> MonkeyDust: 32 bit or 64 bit which is more preferable?
[14:20] <wilee-nilee> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu itself suggests using the windows partitioner to resize windows.
[14:20] <jacks_cool> theadmin: thanks for it ;)
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> jacks_cool  depends o your hardware, 32 runs on both 32 and 64 bit hardware
[14:21] <tgm4883> adac, lllsondowlll lets keep it civil and helping
[14:21] <jacks_cool> MonkeyDust: but there are large dependencies issues in installing softwares in 64 bit.
[14:21] <prashant_123456> while installing ubuntu 12.04lts on virtualbox i get this error piix4_smbus 0<IP_ADDRESS>: SMBus base address uninitialized - upgrade bios or use force_addr=0xaddr ?
[14:21] <tgm4883> jacks_cool, there are? I must reformat immediately!
[14:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacks_cool: I also concur with the 12.04 suggestion, and further suggest 64bit if your machine is capable. another thing, being personal opinion, is give xubuntu a shot ;)
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> jacks_cool  use whatever you're comfortable with
[14:22] <Kitt3n|afk> .
[14:22] <Kitt3n|afk> Ops.
[14:22] <jacks_cool> MonkeyDust: thanks :)
[14:22] <tgm4883> jacks_cool, what are these large dependency issues you speak of?
[14:22] <jacks_cool> ntzrmtthihu777: Xubuntu?
[14:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacks_cool: Ubuntu - unity + xfce, basically.
[14:23] <jacks_cool> tgm4883: While installing one of the software ( idk what it's name was) it asked for 32 bit ubuntu
[14:23] <Monkeytoe> there any way to snapshot my system files after I install? lets say I install ubuntu... download the updates... right before I install AMD APP SDK I was hoping to be able to revert back to... amd app sdk does not have an uninstaller and even if you delete the video driver its files still stay... so I was hoping I could just snapshot the list of all the file versions, and use apt get to roll it
[14:23] <Monkeytoe> back when I want to try a different version install
[14:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: I bet hes talking about multiarch & some packages only work with 32bit libs.
[14:23] <tgm4883> jacks_cool, I find that highly doubtful if you were installing from the repos
[14:23] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, even then, that is super easy to install
[14:23] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions#Windows_Disk_Management
[14:24] <justin> hello?
[14:24] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, and should also be a bug report if it's not installing automatically
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> Monkeytoe  you can do that with btrfs, not with ext
[14:24] <Kitt3n> Hi, justin. :)
[14:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacks_cool: you can install ia32-libs, I think its called, and have multi-arch easy.
[14:24] <justin> i just got ubuntu
[14:24] <jacks_cool> tgm4663: Idk why but I used this: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[14:24] <jacks_cool> yesh
[14:24] <justin> and a friend told me to go on here to ask this problem i'm having
[14:24] <Kitt3n> !ask | justin
[14:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | justin
[14:24] <tgm4883> jacks_cool, that is just.... awful
[14:24] <jacks_cool> wilee-nilee:thanks for the link :)
[14:25] <tgm4883> !tab | jacks_cool
[14:25] <justin> ok sorry
[14:25] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, If you get a chance look at that wiki.
[14:25] <justin> i am trying to download and play DDO
[14:25] <philwong> is there no skype for ubuntu?
[14:25] <jacks_cool> wilee-nilee:sure :)
[14:25] <tgm4883> !skype | philwong
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> philwong: there is a Skype client
[14:25] <theadmin> philwong: Sure is, just go to Skype.com and download it.
[14:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> justin: tried that, won't usually work unless you install in windows and copy over the folder.
[14:25] <justin> yep i got it off skype.com
[14:25] <philwong> I tried to use apt-get skype
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> philwong: in teh partner repo, or grab the deb from the skype site...
[14:25] <philwong> was ot there
[14:25] <philwong> not
[14:25] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, This is a old school linux biased channel, I'm a 99% open source user so I'm not just blowing steam here.
[14:26] <justin> damn that sucks
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> philwong: skype isnt an option of apt-get
[14:26] <tgm4883> philwong, please read the help site
[14:26] <theadmin> philwong: "apt-get skype" wouldn't do anything, you need to "apt-get install skype", either way though, you can always download from the wobsite.
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> philwong: you need the partner repo enabling then run:   sudo apt-get install skype
[14:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> philwong: easy as hell.
[14:26] <wilee-nilee> I started on open source jacks_cool
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> "wobsite" :)
[14:26] <philwong> ok
[14:26] <philwong> will try
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: too much dub ;)
[14:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> philwong: in other words, follow the instructions in the posted skype wiki link.
[14:27] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: (xkcd reference)
[14:27] <jacks_cool> ubottu: I am new to this.Thanks for the piece of advice.
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> philwong: if your OS is 64bit you will haul in a lot of deps as the client is 32bit only
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> philwong: but your OS will be multiarch
[14:27] <marianne> ok Blu-Ray player does work, just not with that one movie... lamesauce
[14:28] <jacks_cool> wilee-nilee, that's fine .
[14:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> marianne: if its anything like dvd, you may need to install restricted codecs.
[14:28] <treehau55> anyone help out with some power settings? I have ubuntu 12.04 and a samsung 7 laptop. I fianlly have overcome the dual graphics issue, but now powertop just has all my pci and usb devices at 100%
[14:28] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, Cool, I'm just concerned is all. ;)
[14:29] <jacks_cool> wilee-nilee: This is my best interaction on IRC channel. So much rules while talking. I learnt a lot. Will look into all the links provided by everyone :)
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> treehau55: are there any bugs reported?
[14:30] <wilee-nilee> jacks_cool, Best of luck you will probably be okay, I just don't brick others setuos, I never have.
[14:30] <jack> hello
[14:30] <jacks_cool> Thanks to all for the information and links. Will try my best to get installation done
[14:30] <jack> gd evening
[14:31] <Guest72335> how do i fix "waiting for apt-get to exit" problem
[14:31] <wilee-nilee> Guest72335, It is easier if you use an actual nick there are tons of guests.
[14:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest72335: wait, lol.
[14:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: he was jack but got guested for some reason.
[14:32] <treehau55> ActionParsnip, I found 2 that were from Dec '11 and Dec '12, I already tried their suggested solutions, some poeple point to the raring kernel being the solution, however thats not an option for me at the moment, I need the stability
[14:32] <wilee-nilee> !detals | Guest72335
[14:32] <wilee-nilee> !details | Guest72335
[14:33] <Guest72335> ubuntu 13.04,i was trying to run sudo apt-get update command then it was stop working for some reason...
[14:34] <Guest72335> now i want to install a sofware from software center but it says waiting for apt-get to exit..
[14:34] <Kitt3n> Guest72335, reboot?
[14:34] <wilee-nilee> Guest72335, HOw long has it said that?
[14:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest72335: this is because both software center and apt-get are more or less the same thing. you cannot use them at the same time due to a lockfile.
[14:35] <Guest72335> still waiting boss...
[14:35] <marianne> ntzrmtthihu777: I have a file I need to move into the lib64 directory, but it's being a troll and giving me errors when I attempt to move it... permissions issue. I'll probably try to figure it out over the long weekend, unless someone can help now
[14:35] <wilee-nilee> Guest72335, Kernel upgrades can take a bit longer be careful here and answer questions.
[14:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> marianne: in general the user should not directly fiddle with lib64, so what are you doing and why are you doing it?
[14:35] <Kitt3n> marianne, open a terminal and launch nautilus as root
[14:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kitt3n: don't give potentially catastropic instructions unless the situation clearly needs it.
[14:36] <theadmin> Kitt3n: Woah, that's a bad idea.
[14:36] <Guest72335> hw to solve it without reboot
[14:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest72335: wait.
[14:36] <marianne> ntzrmtthihu777: I need to move the libaacs.so.0 file into it...
[14:36] <Kitt3n> He asked? :P
[14:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> marianne: why?
[14:36] <marianne> Kitt3n: I'll try it in a bit... work calls
[14:37] <wilee-nilee> Guest72335, How long has it been on the waiting to exit, use nicks to answer if you are poating to someone.
[14:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> marianne: and where did you get it from? I highly suggest you do not follow Kitt3n's instructions.
[14:37] <wilee-nilee> posting*
[14:37] <marianne> ntzrmtthihu777: because everything I read online says that it's the file i'm missing
[14:37] <Guest72335> wilee-nilee : still waiting....
[14:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> marianne: file you're missing for what?
[14:38] <wilee-nilee> Guest72335, HOW LONG?
[14:38] <Guest72335> wilee-nilee : its been an hour
[14:38] <tgm4883> marianne, that file is in libaacs0
[14:38] <theadmin> Guest72335: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/{dpkg,apt/lists}/lock && sudo apt-get -f install should help.
[14:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest72335: then reboot.
[14:38] <marianne> ntzrmtthihu777: to play blu-ray movies in VLC
[14:38] <treehau55> my god, I spike up to 27.7w in consumption, this is unreal, there is something wrong
[14:38] <llutz> !info libaacs0 | marianne install this, it contains the file
[14:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> marianne: sudo apt-get install libaacs0,
[14:38] <Guest72335> theadmin : k wait ...let me try
[14:38] <treehau55> i should be at ~7-8
[14:39] <tgm4883> marianne, but located elsewhere. Rather then guessing with random information you found on some website, maybe state what issue you are trying to fix and we can help.
[14:39] <wilee-nilee> Guest72335, Ah, how big was the update?
[14:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> marianne: and you should likely never ever place .so files into the lib dirs manually. especially because .so.# files are just symlinks, iirc.
[14:39] <wilee-nilee> and how fast is your internet connection?
[14:39] <Guest72335> wilee-nilee : it was studked/hanged..
[14:40] <marianne> ntzrmtthihu777: ok...didn't know that... give me a sec, I sudo'd and I'm going to try it
[14:40] <wilee-nilee> Guest72335, If you are sure it is hanged/stuck which is unusual close the terminal and we can go from there.
[14:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> marianne: what do you mean by "sudo'd"? I hope you did not sudo su.
[14:40] <Guest72335> theadmin : problem solved thanks....
[14:41] <theadmin> Guest72335: Tada
[14:41] <treehau55> is there an upgrade path from 12.04 to 13.04? or is it only 12.10 to 13.04?
[14:41] <marianne> ntzrmtthihu777: no I ran the install for the file
[14:41] <wilee-nilee> +! and a smattering of aplause for theadmin ;)\
[14:41] <Guest72335> wilee-nilee : solved the problem .... thanks
[14:41] <wilee-nilee> cool
[14:42] <theadmin> treehau55: No, there isn't... Just wait for 14.04, you'll be able to update to that directly, eh
[14:42] <Guest72335> theadmin is d bosss
[14:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> treehau55: you can only jump from lts to lts, if you want to go from 12.04 to 13.04 it must be 12.04 => 12.10 => 13.04
[14:42] <marianne> ntzrmtthihu777: tried to play the blu-ray movie in VLC and this is the error I'm getting -- This Blu-Ray Disc needs a library for BD+ decoding, and your system does not have it.
[14:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> marianne: yep, we've gathered that, does the libaac0 solution fix the issue?
[14:43] <Guest72335> is there any way to backup whole os on a dvd/cd
[14:44] <marianne> ntzrmtthihu777: nope... but it's odd as it's only the one movie... so I'm not going to dwell on it too much
[14:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> !backup | Guest72335
[14:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> marianne: its likely encrypted or sommat.
[14:44] <tgm4883> marianne, did you try installing libbluray1
[14:44] <Guest72335> ubottu: thanks....
[14:45] <marianne> ntzrmtthihu777: yup...lamesauce big time...but hey it plays in the player, just can't watch it in here
[14:45] <treehau55> how do I check if I have 12.04.2?
[14:45] <marianne> tgm4883: no haven't tried that one
[14:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> treehau55: uname -a, I thnk. or lsb_release -a
[14:45] <theadmin> treehau55: If you are on 12.04, you just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:45] <tgm4883> marianne, http://askubuntu.com/a/219174/2159
[14:45] <theadmin> treehau55: 12.04.2 is merely a re-release of the ISO with updated packages.
[14:46] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, it's lsb_release -a
[14:46] <theadmin> treehau55: lsb_release -sa should also give you your version.
[14:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: I knew it was one or the otehr, thanks :P
[14:46] <theadmin> treehau55: lsb_release -sr, rather.
[14:46] <treehau55> okay, Im using .2 that wont fix it :(
[14:47] <marianne> tgm4883: test failed...
[14:48] <treehau55> when I type sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-quantal I get a whole bunch of stuff to install, should I do it?
[14:48] <tgm4883> marianne, did you go though the rest of that answer?
[14:48] <tgm4883> treehau55, do you need the quantal kernel on 12.04?
[14:48] <marianne> tgm4883: reading now
[14:49] <treehau55> tgm4883, im not sure I need it, im just thinking maybe Ill get better hardware support and thus better power consumption
[14:49] <tgm4883> treehau55, you really need to stop what you are doing and just tell us the issue you are having
[14:49] <neck> Who here is brazilian?
[14:49] <treehau55> the issue is am consuming 20 wats on idle
[14:49] <Pici> !br | neck
[14:49] <treehau55> so I get ~2 hours batt, when I should be getting 6-7
[14:50] <treehau55> ive been trying to fix the power issues on 12.04 since I pretty much got this laptop a year and a half ago
[14:50] <Kitt3n> treehau55, laptop batteries' lifetime gets lower and lower over time.
[14:50] <neck> Who here is swedish?
[14:50] <philwong> hey guys my ubuntu is buggy as anthahx
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> !swedish
[14:50] <treehau55> Kitt3n, I get 7 hours on Win8, so don't think thats the issue.
[14:50] <Kitt3n> treehau55, that's really odd
[14:50] <philwong> firstly everytime I visit some sites ALL browsers crash
[14:50] <philwong> and stop responding
[14:50] <auronandace> neck: do you have a support issue?
[14:50] <tgm4883> treehau55, what laptop
[14:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> !flood | philwong
[14:50] <brontosaurusrex> treehau55, what laptop is it'
[14:50] <treehau55> Samgsung chronos 7
[14:51] <philwong> ...
[14:51] <treehau55> Ive overcome the dual graphics card issue (finally), now its just all the other stuff, mainly the PCI management
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> trench: http://askubuntu.com/questions/290670/ubuntu-on-samsung-series-7-chronos-advice-please
[14:51] <philwong> Is there something wrong with the kernal?
[14:51] <philwong> I am using 13.04
[14:52] <Kitt3n> !details | philwong
[14:52] <tgm4883> treehau55, did you install the proprietary drivers?
[14:52] <hd5770> how to edit grub
[14:52] <brontosaurusrex> philwong, specific sites, or any sites?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> trench: http://wiki.colar.net/ubuntu_12_04_on_samsung_series_7_chronos_laptop
[14:52] <treehau55> tgm4883, for?
[14:52] <philwong> youtube, freenode, skype etc
[14:52] <tgm4883> treehau55, your video card
[14:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> hd5770: with a text editor, very carefully.
[14:52] <philwong> 90% of sites I tried to visit crashed
[14:52] <hd5770> norty norty
[14:52] <Kitt3n> hd5770, you can use a text editor or Grub customizer
[14:52] <hd5770> isit still in the same place
[14:53] <philwong> and I used chrome, firefox, and that default one that comes with ubuntu(konquerer or something)
[14:53] <treehau55> tgm4883, yeah I followed this a while back, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930450
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> trench: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1935699
[14:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> philwong: quit posting multiple lines. commas are your friend, if you keep this up FloodBot1 is gonna getcha.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> trench: http://forum.notebookreview.com/samsung/672233-ubuntu-12-04-working-great-chronos-7-np700z5b.html
[14:53] <tgm4883> treehau55, so which graphics card are you running now?
[14:53] <treehau55> tgm4883,  I turn off my discrete card completely, I am running the integrated gpu
[14:53] <tgm4883> hmm
[14:53] <treehau55> its not the graphics card thats sucking the power
[14:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> hd5770: /etc/grub.d/40_custom is your friend here. custom grub entries from here are added, without ruining your actual grub.cfg
[14:54] <treehau55> Audo codec hwC0D3 and hwC0D0 are at 100%, every PCI Device: Intel is at 100% and my iwlwifi is at 100%
[14:54] <tgm4883> treehau55, is the fan always on?
[14:54] <treehau55> tgm4883,  no i followed a guide to fix the fan issue
[14:54] <philwong> ubuntu was very stable in the previous versions
[14:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> hd5770: and should something go catastropically wrong you can always boot a standard grub menu :P
[14:55] <tgm4883> treehau55, odd. I don't know what the issue is then, sorry
[14:55] <philwong> I know there is something wrong with my installation because I used ubuntu in the past without probems
[14:55] <tgm4883> treehau55, you could try the newer kernel, as that will give better hardware support but IDK if it will fix your issue
[14:56] <treehau55> philwong,  theres an old parable: past success does not guarantee future performance
[14:56] <philwong> ok
[14:56] <treehau55> tgm4883, thats exactly what I was asking when I said should I use the quantail stuff
[14:56] <treehau55> when I type sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-quantal I get a whole bunch of stuff to install, should I do it?
[14:56] <hd5770> ntzrmtthihu777, http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order better better option
[14:56] <treehau55> ^ posted that before you started talking
[14:56] <tgm4883> treehau55, I know, but if you don't give us any background as to why you want to do that, we're going to say don't do it
[14:56] <hd5770> thanks for the kind words tho
[14:56] <treehau55> tgm4883,  i gotcha
[14:57] <philwong> anyone know why the crashing keeps occuring?
[14:57] <philwong> 13.04
[14:57] <treehau55> tgm4883, so from what I am reading there isn't any known adverse affects from using newer kernels is there
[14:58] <tgm4883> treehau55, no. The 12.04.2 ISO ships with the newer kernel, but original 12.04 installs don't automatically upgrade
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> philwong: is the system fully updated?
[14:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> philwong: we cannot work with nothing. you have literally given no info at all, and expect us to answer. what have you changed recently? any custom setups we should know about? anything other than "boohoo, 13.04 is being mean to me?"
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> philwong: if you log in as a different user, is it ok?
[14:58] <philwong> ActionParsnip: I downloaded this ubuntu yesturday
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> philwong: doesn't matter, did you run full updates?
[14:58] <marianne> tgm4883: still failed... crap and now work is buggin...gotta earn my cheddar ...lates
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> philwong: the ISOs are not 100% up to date, even the daily ISOs
[14:58] <philwong> ActionParsnip: when I installed it, yes it downloaded updates
[14:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> hd5770: changing the grub order is what you're after, but in a better way than the link you posted?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> philwong: What desktop are you using?
[14:59] <philwong> default one
[14:59] <philwong> but I did install kde
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> philwong: for Ubuntu?
[14:59] <philwong> LXDE
[14:59] <philwong> ActionParsnip: Yes
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> philwong: do you get the crashes in the other desktops?
[15:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> philwong: you really needa cut back on the enter keys.
[15:00] <philwong> yes
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> philwong: is there a pattern taht causes the crashes?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> philwong: what happens when you get a 'crash'?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> philwong: does the system get hot?
[15:00] <philwong> nothing the browser stops responding
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> philwong: tried a different browser>
[15:01] <philwong> and yes the system always sounds like its very hot and gpu is on full fan
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> philwong: tried a different browser?
[15:01] <philwong> yes I tried chrome, firefox, konqurer
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> philwong: does it crash with non-flash content?
[15:02] <philwong> I dont think so, some sites that are lightweight load fine
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> philwong: does the system have a make and model?
[15:02] <philwong> like  ubuntus
[15:02] <dkelman> hola!! i have a question about ubuntu that google couldn't help me with
[15:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | dkelman
[15:02] <philwong> Its an icore5 quadcore, 8gb ram, nvidia gtx560
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> philwong: but does it have a make and model or is it a home build?
[15:03] <philwong> its a custom built one
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> philwong: what i5 do you have? what model?
[15:03] <philwong> 2500
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> philwong: have you installed bumblebee?
[15:04] <femian> Hola como están. Les puedo hacer una consulta?
[15:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> !es | femian
[15:04] <philwong> ActionParsnip: no I have not
[15:04] <Kitt3n> philwong, what nvidia driver are you using?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> philwong: your CPU has an Intel GPU built in, couple that with your Nvidia and you have a switchable GPU situation
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> philwong: so you need bumblebee
[15:05] <philwong> I am using the driver ubuntu assigned for gpu
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> philwong: its easier if you build a system without a GPU in the CPU, or remove the nvidia
[15:05] <Kitt3n> philwong, try the one from Nvidia?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> philwong: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> philwong: its why the system is running hot, once you get bumblebee in you should be ok but the whole mess is simply best avoided by smart purchasing
[15:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> philwong: translation: if you know you're going to use linux, stay the hell away from nvidia
[15:07] <Kitt3n> ^
[15:07] <philwong> hmm
[15:07] <philwong> can bumblebee be instaled from software center
[15:07] <dkelman> does anyone know how i can log system calls regarding the filesystem? e.g. every time i write/read a file and how much data it was
[15:07] <Kitt3n> AMD is better for linux, and it's going to be even better than it already is :D
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> philwong: read the link I gave you, That is why I gave you it
[15:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> philwong: you should *read* links we give, we don't have these autoprogrammed into the bot for nothing.
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Kitt3n: i'd say it was half assd
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> philwong: why do you think I took the time to get you that URL....?
[15:08] <Kitt3n> ActionParsnip, the only half assd about AMD is the installer is mean.
[15:08] <Kitt3n> Is that the installer*
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Kitt3n: yeah, loving the great support for 2xxx to 4xxx AMD GPUs...nic
[15:08] <philwong> ActionParsnip: ok man take it  easy, I have it opened here
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> philwong: then why ask, when everything you need is there?
[15:09] <philwong> because I am on a windows machine
[15:09] <Kitt3n> ActionParsnip, I don't use legacy amd graphic cards, ;p But I guess I could try on my old amd laptop
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> philwong: its still all there
[15:09] <philwong> if its in the software center I wont have to use commands
[15:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> philwong: if you're afraid of commands you are on the wrong os.
[15:09] <philwong> I cant even use freenode in ubuntu
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> philwong: its in a PPA sadly, way of teh world
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: not true
[15:10] <Kitt3n> It's true.
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> i have at least 10 users I can name who use Ubuntu daily and never touch command line
[15:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> *snort* in all honesty, how many of the ubuntu wiki/help pages/forum/etc do *not* suggest commands as a fix?
[15:10] <Guest72335> i have downloaded remastersys.deb file and i want to install it to make backup of installed os  ... its not working for some reason ...wt to do
[15:11] <dkelman> does anyone know how i can log system calls regarding the filesystem? e.g. every time i write/read a file and how much data it was
[15:11] <Kitt3n> !details | Guest72335
[15:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest72335: stop downloading random debs and install via software center/synaptic/apt-get.
[15:11] <Guest72335> oky doky ...ntzrmtthihu7777
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> dkelman: you can use tripwire
[15:12] <Guest72335> ubottu: ubuntu 13.04
[15:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> !bot | Guest72335
[15:13] <dkelman> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'm looking into it
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> dkelman: the log would get large, I suggest you ony watch certain folders
[15:14] <dkelman> makes sense
[15:14] <philwong> ok I tried to install bumblebee
[15:15] <philwong> first comand seemed to work, but the second one says :could not get lock"
[15:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> philwong: are you trying to run both at the same time?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> philwong: do you have updates installing or software centre open
[15:16] <philwong> yes software center is open
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> philwong: thats why
[15:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> philwong: there you go. musta missed out when we were telling jack/Guest about why you can't run both at the same time.
[15:17] <philwong> I closed software center its still showing the message
[15:17] <Snicers-Work> Hey, I noticed in my TCPdump logs this morning that a massive amount of traffic is going to our mail server, is this typical?
[15:17] <philwong> I would love to paste the output
[15:17] <philwong> but I cant because frenode doesw not work on my ubuntu
[15:17] <Snicers-Work> philwong use xchat as an irc client on ubuntu
[15:17] <aiten_44> Snicer-Work: depends did you have a lot of email going to your mail server?
[15:18] <Kitt3n> Or hexchat
[15:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> philwong: yep, because of this you're gonna have issues. patience, and consistency, are your friends. if you're gonna use software center, use software center. if you're gonna use apt-get, use apt-get. *dont* try to do the same thing at the same time with two different programs, it will *not* end well.
[15:19] <philwong> ok, maybe I should reboot and try it
[15:19] <philwong> I have no idea which other one is running but ok
[15:20] <bigtoe376> Has there been any work on the gvfs-fuse issue?  Not to be confrontational but this seems to be a MAJOR issue, file copying solidity should never be ignored.
[15:20] <philwong> I tried to install openjdkjava and it has been stuck on "applying changes
[15:21] <philwong> There appears to be no X button to even cancel it
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> bigtoe376: what is this issue, not got any problems here
[15:21] <Semem_dickwang> Nugggaaazzz helpme plZzzz
[15:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> philwong: always wait for things to finish before moving on to the next step. this will save you a world of headaches (and us helping you too)
[15:22] <bigtoe376> 13.04 can't copy files reliably from any SMB mounted share using Nautilus, various lockups etc.  Seems to be pretty widespread.
[15:22] <philwong> it has been stuck there for hours, anyhow I have restarted
[15:22] <philwong> lets see what happens
[15:22] <ezra-s> philwong, also taking a look in the terminal to see what's going won't hurt
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> bigtoe376: tried a different file manager?
[15:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> bigtoe376: would you like an example of a working samba?
[15:23] <philwong> maybe my issue is hardware related
[15:23] <bigtoe376> Yes, nothing will sidestep the issue, cp, mc all fail.
[15:23] <Kitt3n> ntzrmtthihu777, I would :o
[15:23] <philwong> even when restarting it stays at the ubuntu screen and does notrstart
[15:24] <philwong> I always have to manually press the power button
[15:24] <bigtoe376> I can get it to work using cifs to manually mount shares.  IT's the auto stuff served by gvfs that's at issue.
[15:24] <aiten_44> philwong: does it still hang if you force a restart using the terminal?
[15:24] <philwong> I did not use terminal
[15:25] <philwong> I used the desktop button thing
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> bigtoe376: are all the clients linux based?
[15:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> bigtoe376: my smb.conf on server: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5840646/ my fstab on accessing machine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5840647/ Kitt3n, you may want to check them out too :p
[15:26] <andornaut> apt-get install linux-image-X failed (openvz vps, error: "failed to get canonical path of /vz/private/1XXXX"; can't upgrade past 2.6 kernels on this vps). Now I'd like to simply remove it, but apt-get remove fails; apt-get -f install fails, dpkg --remove --force-all fails... any ideas?
[15:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> andornaut: are you trying to update your kernel?
[15:26] <aiten_44> philwong: you could try sudo restart -f its not good for your computer so don't do it all the time but would tell you if its a hardware thing which I don't think it is but you never know
[15:27] <andornaut> ntzrmtthihu777: i was doing a dist-upgrade, and the kernel update came along with it. I'd like to keep my current kernel.
[15:27] <bigtoe376> ActionParsnip:  Well, I'm working with new 13.04 installs.  All other machines, older Linux, Mac, Windows are all ok.  This is apparently a documented bug, was asking if there is any light at end of tunnel for fixes to gvfs.
[15:27] <Kitt3n> ntzrmtthihu777, cool! Thanks~
[15:27] <philwong> aiten_44: ok,
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> bigtoe376: what release are the Ubuntu clients?
[15:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kitt3n: also, notice I have ubuntu-server instead of an ip. this only works if you have the ip & hostname added in /etc/hosts
[15:27] <philwong> I just dont get why mine is so buggy,
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> philwong: its a new OS to you, you will have teething issues
[15:28] <Kitt3n> ntzrmtthihu777, okay.
[15:28] <bigtoe376> ActionParsnip:  Ubuntu 13.04 and we have another guy running 12.10
[15:28] <philwong> ActionParsnip: I tried the older ubuntus and did not encoutner it
[15:28] <cor_r> how do I turn of notifications, of people logging in, when using pidgin on xfce. (the text box notifications not the sound)
[15:28] <philwong> everything ran stable,
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> philwong: different driver versions, kernel and XOrg
[15:29] <aiten_44> philwong: the force reboot worked?
[15:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kitt3n: I also have a file, ~/.smbCred, containing the lines username=right_username & password=rigth_password if you setup a no-auth setup.
[15:29] <philwong> aiten_44: I am still stuck on the "ubuntu
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> cor_r: main buddy window. Tools -> plugins
[15:29] <philwong> should I manually turn it off?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> cor_r: look for away/part plugin
[15:30] <aiten_44> philwong: hit the escape key might bring you upto a console that should hopefully tell you what is hanging
[15:30] <Kitt3n> ntzrmtthihu777, okay.
[15:30] <philwong> no, nothing
[15:30] <philwong> I am restarting manually
[15:31] <cor_r> ActionParsnip, thanks a lot :)
[15:31] <aiten_44> philwong: check your logfiles see if you have any errors during the reboot
[15:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> philwong: the first thing you gotta understand is patience. let things *finish* before moving to the next step.
[15:32] <Kitt3n> ^
[15:33] <TheUsD> Just went through the truecrypt wizzard and created a volume within a partition/drive, made it a standard truecrypt volume, chose my raid1 volume, formated it. My question is, now that it is formated as an encrypted drive, does that mean anytime I drop a file on the drive it will be encrypted?
[15:34] <aiten_44> TheUsd: yea
[15:35] <cor_r> ActionParsnip, it has been in the plugin section, the 'libnotify popup' one, was the one I was looking for though. thanks a lot though :)
[15:35] <treehau55> I feel like ever since I did the recent upgrades to pulseaudio throught he package manager, my power consumption for Intel audio and Realtek has stayed at 100%
[15:36] <blazemore> TheUsD: if you use Truecrypt to mount the encrypted volume, you'll get a new entry in the file manager sidebar; you can put files in there. The entire volume is encrypted
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> cor_r: no worries, I use pidgin myself. It rocks
[15:37] <TheUsD> Aiten_44: and this might be a redundant question but if I have that truecrypt drive shared and have a FTP program on another machine use the encrypted drive as the "home folder", when files are transfered from FTP program machine to the encrypted drive (on another machine) the files become encrypted?
[15:38] <TheUsD> or sorry, let me explain that better.
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> TheUsD: files copied to an encrypted partition will be encrypted, yes
[15:39] <aiten_44> TheUsd: doesn't matter where they come from if they end up on your encrypted drive they will be encrypted
[15:39] <TheUsD> aiten_44: If I have a windows7 box with an FTP program access the now encrypted drive that is located on a Linux box, the files will be encrypted.
[15:39] <TheUsD> Ok, outstanding! thank you all!
[15:40] <aiten_44> TheUsD: Yes they will be encrypted however you may run into an error if you start the ftp server at boot because the truecrypt volume wont be mounted
[15:40] <TheUsD> Ok, I'll look into that, thank you again!
[15:40] <klutz> I installed Ubuntu and it found the other OS partition, but it did not find the 3rd partition on this HD. Any Help?
[15:41] <Kitt3n> klutz, is there a valid operating system on your third partition?
[15:41] <auronandace> klutz: what is on the third partition? what filesystem?
[15:42] <klutz> no it is an extended partition with data only on it.
[15:42] <jeet_> hi
[15:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kitt3n: also, that was my master copy of the smb.conf; it is accepted practice to name the master smb.conf.master and generate the working smb.conf with "testparm -s smb.conf.master > smb.conf" (run as sudo in /etc/samba, of course)
[15:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> !details | klutz
[15:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> klutz: and what os? grub may not detect all os's.... if its merely data grub has nothing to do with it.
[15:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> klutz: lemme guess, you want it to automount?
[15:43] <Kitt3n> Sounds like that
[15:43] <klutz> ntzrmtthihu777, I would like to see it , yes
[15:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> klutz: define "see it." you want it to mount somewhere automatically when you boot a certain os?
[15:43] <klutz> /mnt/device/sda3?
[15:43] <auronandace> !fstab | klutz
[15:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> klutz: ^, likely what you want.
[15:45] <klutz> ntzrmtthihu777, see it in a file manager so I can access the files.
[15:45] <kelly> hi guys , i'm using ubuntu 12.04 and i installed virtualbox , is it possible to mount cd and install the hp printer driver on windows 7 ? how can i do that
[15:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> klutz: then see the above post by ubottu
[15:45] <Skaag> what happened to add-apt-repository in raring?
[15:45] <Kitt3n> Skaag, nothing happened?
[15:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: yes, but you cannot use usb devices with vbox without vbox-guest-additions installed, and an expansion pack
[15:46] <Skaag> I installed python-software-properties but 'add-apt-repository' is not available...
[15:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: however, you can use the network install, assuming you have vbox networking set up properly
[15:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Skaag: try apt-add-repository, one is a symnlink of the other.
[15:47] <Skaag> found it: apt-get install software-properties-common
[15:47] <kelly> i installed also vbox-guest-additions
[15:47] <Skaag> turns out it was moved to another package
[15:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Skaag: I hate it when things are changed for no other reason than to change them.
[15:48] <Skaag> haha
[15:48] <imejllksdawe> hi i noticed when i ping google.com evry 20-30 ping i get ping spike 300  so does ubutnu check evry 20 sec for updateds or what does  spike my pc
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> kelly: wy not just download the laest from the hp site
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> imejllksdawe: i'd reboot your router
[15:48] <Skaag> well it sounds like they are trying to put order in things.. but now the entire world need to update their instructions for raring...
[15:48] <kelly> i don't know where is the driver download , could u help me plz to find the driver
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> kelly: www.hp.com
[15:48] <kelly> i have hp deskjet 2050a
[15:49] <kelly> i know
[15:49] <imejllksdawe> ActionParsnip:  why what hes ruter to do whit it and i did reboot him it is somthing to do whit pc
[15:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: also, if you are doing this for the sole reason of getting an hp printer running with ubuntu the hplip package works just fine for most situations.
[15:49] <aiten_44> kelly: on hps website look for drivers and support then it will ask the make and model
[15:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> imejllksdawe: what router?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> imejllksdawe: your keyboard seems intermittent too
[15:49] <kelly> i wanna use sometimes microsoft office and i want to print from windows 7
[15:50] <imejllksdawe> newermind what network tool shows whit  program is using network badwich
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> kelly: if you put the CD in, there is a setting in virtualbox to mount the host CD drive
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> imejllksdawe: ntop
[15:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> imejllksdawe: not nevermind, I had same issue with my router and if you have the same one I know a solution.
[15:51] <drasko> hi all, I am booting ubuntu on Wandboard (i.MX6), and in the end it pauses before presenting me login screen. This pause takes long time, without any print on the console. Where to look?
[15:51] <kelly> ok another question , how can i use scanner in ubuntu ? in windows there is a program called hp scan
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> drasko: your video driver loads too slow to show plymouth, thats all
[15:51] <JoshDreamland> Why does chromium get set as the default browser EVERY TIME it updates?
[15:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: xsane, likely.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> kelly: simple-scan is in a defafult install
[15:52] <kelly> thank you
[15:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> JoshDreamland: because that's the google way ;)
[15:52] <drasko> ActionParsnip, how can I disable video? I do not have video output, I am connected via console.