[07:44] <sicness> Can someone help me? I want to understand next thing: I want to make deb from pypi package and add some file from it to /usr/local/bin/ . Where I can set it?
[08:09] <tumbleweed> sicness: packages shouldn't touch /usr/local - that area isn't managed by the distro, it's for the sysadmin to install things built from source
[08:10] <sicness> ok, where I should put bin file?
[08:10] <sicness> And how can I do it?
[08:11] <tumbleweed> have you read the packaging guide? http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/
[08:11] <tumbleweed> our standard packaging tools will put python modules in the right place
[08:12] <sicness> And wnat to put mudule and one executable file to $PATH
[08:13] <sicness> sorry ) I want to put mudule and one executable file to $PATH
[08:14] <tumbleweed> your setup.py will install the module to the right place. for the executable, /usr/bin is probably where you want it
[08:15] <sicness> Can I use "install file" for place one file to /usr/bin ?
[08:16] <sicness> For example "foo usr/bin" in "install" file ?
[08:16] <tumbleweed> yes
[08:16] <sicness> "foo" file should be in "debian" directory ?
[08:17] <tumbleweed> no
[08:17] <sicness> 1 dir upper?
[08:17] <tumbleweed> yes
[08:17] <sicness> :) Thx a lot.
[08:18] <sicness> How about executive bit?
[08:19] <tumbleweed> you mean executable. dh_fixperms will set that, if it wasn't set
[08:19] <sicness> ok, thx


[19:38] <Youssef_D> hello all
[19:49] <CIA-7> usb-creator: superm1 * r342 usb-creator/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Show the vendor/model of targets in the UI.
[19:50] <superm1> ev, ^ that makes it more usable for people who don't know what device files are, but I think the UI needs to be redesigned or at least stretched out to present it better
[21:02] <CIA-7> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4718 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-timezone.py):
[21:02] <CIA-7> ubiquity: Add __init__ methods to ubi-timezone's PageDebconf and
[21:02] <CIA-7> ubiquity: PageNoninteractive classes, so that they have controller attributes
[21:02] <CIA-7> ubiquity: (LP: #769081).
[21:10] <CIA-7> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4719 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.6.10
[23:35] <Youssef> hello all
[23:35] <Youssef> anybody here?
[23:48] <JanC> Youssef: it's easter weekend for many, so probably not a lot of folks around...
[23:49] <Youssef> oh I see
[23:49] <JanC> but if you stay around...  you never know somebody is tired of eating easter eggs  ;)
[23:50] <Youssef> :)
[23:50] <JanC> actually, no easter eggs before Sunday
[23:50] <Youssef> so no eggs now
[23:51] <Youssef> people here are mostly from US?
[23:52] <JanC> traditionally they were on easter Sunday, nowadays the shops are selling chocolate easter eggs for months before
[23:52] <JanC> many are from the US & Europe, but some are from other places too, I think
[23:53] <Youssef> like me, I'm from Lebanon
[23:54] <Youssef> this chatting place is about installing Ubuntu?
[23:56] <JanC> no, it's about the Ubuntu installer, so mostly programming it or using/modifying it for Ubuntu-derived distros etc.


[19:45] <ikonia> gents what is the correct process to delete a wiki page from https://help.ubuntu.com ?
[19:56] <jpds> ikonia: Remove its content?
[20:25] <ikonia> jpds: I wanted to remove the whole page
[20:26] <ikonia> basiclly the page is nonsense and not worth the effort of making it a real doc as it's just nonsense content, yet can be quiet dangerous
[20:30] <jpds> ikonia: My guess is only sysadmins can do that.
[20:30] <ikonia> that would seem logical,
[20:31] <ikonia> I couldn't get the owner to delete it (I believe that is an option) I'll speak to the site admins
[20:32] <Flannel> ikonia: get rid of the bad stuff (even if thats the whole page) in the meantime
[20:33] <jpds> ikonia: You can contact the SA team at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>.
[20:33] <j1mc> um, i think you can just delete the page
[20:33] <j1mc> you don't need a sysadmin to do it
[20:34] <j1mc> oh, sorry... it's not on wiki.ubuntu.com, but help.ubuntu.com?
[20:34] <j1mc> what is the url?
[20:34] <j1mc> ping ikonia
[20:34] <j1mc> ikonia: ping.  :)
[20:37] <jpds> Hmm, I can see a "Remove spam" option.
[20:38] <jpds> Ah, not allowed to use that option :)
[20:39] <ikonia> there is a "remove page" option too, but I only thing thats the owner
[20:42] <j1mc> ikonia: what is the url?
[20:45] <ikonia> j1mc: grabbing it
[20:46] <ikonia> j1mc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizationFromScratch
[20:46] <ikonia> j1mc: I've put as many warnings and santisied it to as least danger as possible
[20:46] <ikonia> but to be honest - it's nonsense
[20:52] <j1mc> ikonia: looking, thx
[20:52] <Flannel> Why wouldn't you just use the alternate CD in expert mode?
[20:53] <Flannel> Or even just the alternate CD to install a CLI, then add/subtract
[20:56] <ikonia> Flannel: the guy who wrote it was trying to troll
[20:56] <ikonia> Flannel: he was an idiot
[20:56] <ikonia> (to be blunt about it)
[20:58] <Flannel> ikonia: Just edit away the entire page, and put "use the alternate CD" or whatever.
[20:58] <ikonia> I'd rather get rid of it
[20:58] <ikonia> see what j1mc thinks
[20:58] <ikonia> it serves no purpose, and actually what he's wrote doesn't work at all
[20:59] <ikonia> so I'd rather get rid of it as a "nonsense" page as it doesn't do what it says, it's dangerous and no-one really wants/needs it
[21:13] <j1mc> ikonia: i thought i would see a delete button of some kind, but i don't see one.
[21:34] <ikonia> j1mc: I can see one, but I can't hover over it
[21:35] <j1mc> hmm
[21:36] <j1mc> yes, it looks grayed out.
[21:37] <ikonia> I'll mail one of the admins
[21:37] <ikonia> seems the best approach
[21:39] <Rocket2DMn> what are we looking at?
[21:45] <ikonia> Rocket2DMn: a nonsense wiki post
[21:46] <Rocket2DMn> oh no, not another one of those
[21:46] <Rocket2DMn> is it on the community wiki or team wiki?
[21:46] <ikonia> community
[21:46] <Rocket2DMn> page?
[21:46] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizationFromScratch
[21:48] <Rocket2DMn> that shouldnt even be on the community wiki
[21:48] <Rocket2DMn> "This document could potentially cause damage to your system and will have many errors in while it is is currently in development."
[21:49] <Rocket2DMn> if it's not safe, it really shouldn't be on the community docs
[21:50] <ikonia> afreed
[21:50] <ikonia> agreed
[21:50] <ikonia> I've put as many warnings as possible on it and removed as much danger as possible short of re-writing it
[21:51] <ikonia> but as the topic is a.) missed by the document b.) dangerous c.) not needed seems sensible to get rid of it
[21:51] <Rocket2DMn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag#Candidate%20for%20moving
[21:51] <Rocket2DMn> not sure id even want it on the team wiki, but that area is more of a sandbox than the community docs
[21:51] <ikonia> I'd just want it gone
[21:51] <ikonia> I'll drag a mail to the wiki admin
[21:53] <Rocket2DMn> ah mdke isnt even here
[22:02]  * Rocket2DMn considers deleting the page himself
[22:06] <Rocket2DMn> guess we better wait to see what our wiki god has to say about it
[22:22]  * ikonia summons wiki god
[22:22] <jpds> ikonia: Who?
[22:22] <ikonia> the wiki god
[22:24] <Rocket2DMn> lol yeah that would be mdke, a few of us act as his humble servants
[22:25] <jpds> ikonia: Well they're not living up to their name.
[22:31] <ikonia> clearly
[22:32] <Rocket2DMn> ah, this team just needs some love, thats all


[08:53] <macvr> thorwil: hi...
[08:54] <thorwil> hi!
[08:56] <macvr> thorwil: how fast do icon sets generally get done? when was breathe idea started? when would a realistic completion be?
[08:58] <thorwil> macvr, most sets have a rather limited number of icons. if you want to cover everything like tango and oxygen, we are talking about years, i think
[08:58] <thorwil> macvr, the people involved with tango or oxygen can tell you much better
[09:01] <thorwil> macvr, could have been about august 2008 that Cory first mentioned the idea, not sure. you could check the mailing list archive for the first public anouncement. or check the creation date of the main Breathe wiki page
[09:04] <SiDi> macvr: i'd say a good year at least, yeh... if you watch carefully, very few icon themes are complete enough for actual use, and they're all old
[09:44] <macvr> thorwil: SiDi ... thanx guys... i think i'll concentrate more on the quality of what i'm submitting , rather than the speed... i was actually worried i was slow :P
[09:48] <macvr> thorwil: regarding the mime base... the initial empty.svg was dog eared.. hence i maintained it..
[09:48] <thorwil> macvr, question everything!! ;)
[09:49] <macvr> thorwil: so a paper without the dog ears and looking like that?
[09:50] <macvr> thorwil: also.... i dont think its dog ears actually, its just that the paper is having wind blown at the bottom... :P
[09:51] <thorwil> macvr, wind doesnt result in a hard fold
[09:51] <macvr> i dont think its a hard fold... see the shadow below the fold? if it was a fold there would be no shadow
[09:52] <macvr> thorwil: ^
[09:52] <thorwil> macvr, there's no curve, so it's a hard fold
[09:53] <macvr> thorwil: that i have to agree, adding the curve would make it correct
[09:55] <macvr> thorwil: check again... it actually has a curve... :)
[09:58] <thorwil> macvr, there's another problem with your base. it's not straight on, so we would have to distort everything painted on it. that's not feasible
[10:00] <thorwil> 0.o  http://www.yourlogomakesmebarf.com/
[12:43] <andreasn> hi! can someone help me out with a screenshot?
[12:43] <andreasn> I'm trying to fix a Ubuntu/Firefox bug
[12:43] <knome> andreasn, hmm?
[12:43] <andreasn> can someone take a screenshot of Firefox using the Human theme
[12:44] <andreasn> of a tab and of the file menu
[12:45] <knome> why can't you do it yourself? :P
[12:45] <andreasn> because I broke it :)
[12:46] <andreasn> so I need to figure out if it's using the 8x8 or the 12x12
[12:47]  * SiDi got a custom FF theme and cant reboot FF, sorry
[12:47] <SiDi> you want the "Close tab" icon of the file menu ?
[12:47] <andreasn> yes
[12:47] <andreasn> or, well, I need to figure out what size is used on the tabs
[12:50] <SiDi> damn
[12:50] <SiDi> cant upload
[12:52] <SiDi> http://imagebin.org/52119
[12:53] <andreasn> that shows the bug I'm trying to fix, I'm trying to get it to be the same size as on the menu
[12:53] <andreasn> on the tab I mean
[12:55] <zniavre> pole emploi ...
[12:56] <SiDi> zniavre: yeh :D
[12:56] <SiDi> but if you know someone who recruits for this summer, let me know ;)
[12:56] <zniavre> sorry i believed i was in regular french room
[12:59] <zniavre> i can't works im not allowed to
[13:00] <SiDi> how can you be not allowed to work ?
[13:01] <knome> mommy told not to
[13:01] <knome> ;)
[13:02] <zniavre> handicap (do not know in english
[13:03] <SiDi> you're disabled, in english
[13:05] <zniavre> im wasted
[13:05] <zniavre> :o)
[13:05] <SiDi> ^^
[13:06] <SiDi> how old are you btw, zniavre ?
[13:07] <zniavre> 38
[18:36] <SiDi> macvr: what ubuntu version do you use ?
[18:38] <macvr> SiDi: 9.04
[18:38]  * macvr wonders what SiDi is up to?
[18:39] <SiDi> eating :P
[18:39] <SiDi> macvr: did you try karmic yet ?
[18:41] <macvr> nope... i still have probs with ext4 in jaunty :(
[19:01] <psyke83> macvr: the kernel shipped with Jaunty has an ext4 crashing bug (that's usually triggered from file deletes). I noticed that bug to be fixed with an update to the kernel (I use the proposed updates, so the proposed kernel may have been what fixed it)
[19:04] <macvr> psyke83: actually the performance is worse from ext3, i'm not sure why this is...i think its because i did a inplace upgrade from ext3 , and part of the files are still in ext3 and not yet refreshed!
[19:04] <macvr> psyke83: have u tried e4defrag?
[19:04] <macvr> i wan to use it for refreshing files
[19:05] <psyke83> I didn't do an in-place upgrade, so I'm not using a hybrid ext4 filesystem
[19:05] <psyke83> I haven't tried e4defrag, last time I checked it wasn't packaged in Jaunty or Karmic
[19:06] <macvr> psyke83: its not there , but i thought of using this guide> http://polishlinux.org/apps/cli/ext4-defragmentation-with-e4defrag/  but it went over my head :(
[19:07] <SiDi> noone endorses damage done to your data
[19:07] <SiDi> ;)
[19:07] <psyke83> macvr: it seems to make more sense to backup your home directory to another drive/partition and reformat
[19:07] <macvr> psyke83: my / is in ext3/4 hybrid state... would reinstall of the packages convert them to ext4?
[19:08] <macvr> SiDi: i havent lost any data :P .... yet
[19:08] <psyke83> possibly, but I think it'll miss a lot of files untouched (and therefore not using the ext4 features)
[19:08] <psyke83> *leave, not miss
[19:09] <macvr> psyke83: i thought of a reinstall, just lazy ... maybe for karmic
[19:09] <psyke83> well, alpha 2 of karmic is coming in the next day or so... you have time to decide ;)
[19:09] <macvr> or atleast when karmic becomes beta
[19:10] <psyke83> right, it may be better to wait if you're looking for stability
[19:10] <macvr> not alpha! i'll have to reboot for all the updates!


  Sorting it out.
[08:43] <seb128> thx!
[08:52] <seb128> duflu, looking to your pulseaudio merge, it's a bit weird that it doesn't include the debian/changelog new entries (those would also summarize the changes that you got merged in)
[08:52]  * didrocks learns ascii order…
[08:52] <didrocks> been wondering why a property wasn't showing up "of course, it's the first as it's a c…" :/
[08:52]  * didrocks should take more coffee
[08:53] <duflu> seb128, I forgot the convention of including the most recent one(s) from Debian.
[08:54] <seb128> duflu, no worry. Also if you did a merge it might be worth uploading to disco, it's cheap enough and it means the pacakge is green then on our reports, list of merges, ettc
[08:54] <seb128> didrocks, :)
[08:54]  * didrocks needs now to find back on how to lock a key in gsettings to test the rebase in progress…
[08:55] <duflu> seb128, how do the reports detect that? Version prefix?
[08:55] <duflu> Or just version greater...
[08:55] <seb128> duflu, compare if ... that
[08:55] <seb128> Debian version > Ubuntu version
[08:55] <duflu> Yes
[08:56] <seb128> (which is also why we usually import the debian/changelog entries and bump our version one "ubuntu1" sufix higher
[08:58] <duflu> I think we branched too long ago to include all the entries. Would just include one or two
[08:58] <duflu> But I'm also not looking at it right now. Maybe later this week
[08:59] <ricotz> good morning desktopers
[09:00] <duflu> Hi ricotz
[09:00] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hi, feel free to merge things back and forth to the firefox beta branches
[09:01] <ricotz> duflu, hey
[09:03] <Laney> yo
[09:03] <duflu> lo Laney
[09:04] <didrocks> hey Laney, ricotz
[09:05] <oSoMoN> ricotz, ack, will do
[09:05] <oSoMoN> hey Laney
[09:06] <seb128> hey Laney
[09:07]  * Laney fist bumps duflu didrocks oSoMoN seb128
[09:07] <Laney> what's happening?
[09:09] <didrocks> not much, deep in the Shell, hoping to finish the extension story this week (or next with review time ;))
[09:09] <didrocks> you?
[09:10] <duflu> tseliot, when you're around, these are problematic in disco: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-410
[09:11] <duflu> Heh
[09:11] <Laney> also not much, seem to have fought off the cold
[09:11] <duflu> tseliot, Good morning. Also, these are problematic in disco: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-410
[09:11] <Laney> didrocks: have you been protesting? :-O
[09:12] <didrocks> Laney: heh, no ;)
[09:14] <Laney> 😈
[09:18] <seb128> duflu, you should maybe describe what's the issue with those nvidia drivers?
[09:18] <duflu> seb128, it's the same installation failure as the existing bug reports show
[09:19] <seb128> oh, I see
[09:19] <seb128> changelog being different between archs, I saw that mentioned some days ago but didn't follow
[09:20] <seb128> there was a guess that maybe it was a gzip bug
[09:23] <willcooke> oh, morning all.  Sorry, went straight in to meetings
[09:25] <Laney> moin willcooke
[09:25] <Laney> management woes
[09:26] <seb128> hey willcooke
[09:27] <oSoMoN> good morning willcooke
[09:27] <duflu> Hi willcooke
[10:33] <andyrock> morning all!
[10:35] <willcooke> hi andyrock
[11:35] <andyrock> seb128: I was working with the livepatch guys to make sure that update-manager can show the list of CVEs fixes
[11:36] <andyrock> seb128: the branch is almost ready but the change is not Backward-compatible
[11:36] <andyrock> seb128: in order to have a better transition I need to introduce a small change in update-manager and SRU it
[11:37] <andyrock> seb128: the problem is that there is no bug atm. Is it possible to SRU it anyway?
[11:46] <Deknos> hey, what is the official way to connect to an IPSEC/IKE Network with Ubuntu 18.04 Desktop?
[12:18] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, I updated https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+merge/359817 to add relevant patch tags, as you requested
[12:20] <willcooke> Deknos, I think you would be better off asking in #ubuntu - this is more of a development channel
[12:24]  * Laney screams the poppler scream of his ancestors
[12:28] <seb128> andyrock, hey, what do you mean "is not Backward-compatible", what is changing in an incompatible way and what component doesn't deal with it/what's the impacT?
[12:30] <andyrock> seb128: on newer version of livepatch (I asked them to block the change until we can properly deal with it), the "fixes" field in the yaml that we get from the /status api changed
[12:30] <seb128> andyrock, we are not consuming that file today are we?
[12:30] <andyrock> update-manager will fail to parse it and show more fixes that the real ones
[12:31] <andyrock> seb128: in update-manager we are already using the /status api
[12:31] <andyrock> the status api is not the status file used by update-notifier
[12:32] <seb128> I was not aware that we had that feature today
[12:32] <seb128> what is update-manager showing/when? is that on bionic?
[12:33] <andyrock> let me get a screenshot
[12:33] <seb128> not needed, I trust you on that
[12:33] <seb128> sorry for the questions, but we can't change that file in a way that is backward-compatible?
[12:34] <seb128> oSoMoN, best to talk to Laney for g-s reviews, Marco is off for most of decembre
[12:35] <andyrock> seb128: not easily. The sru change on our side is going to be very small
[12:35] <seb128> andyrock, the problem is not the SRU change, is assuring that people do install the update/fixed version, by experience we can't assume that's going to be the case
[12:36] <seb128> what the damage if they use the old version?
[12:37] <andyrock> they'll just get a message "Livepatch fixed X issues" instead of "Livepatch fixed Y issues" where X > Y
[12:37] <andyrock> not a huge issue
[12:37] <seb128> well, if it's misleading/wring...
[12:37] <seb128> wrong
[12:37] <seb128> man, it's 2018, why do people thing it's fine to do incompatible changes to an interface/not version those :(
[12:38] <seb128> think*
[12:38] <seb128> can't we talk the livepatch people out of being sily?
[12:38] <andyrock> I had a call today with one of them
[12:39] <andyrock> versioning is a solution is it's going to require major changes on their side
[12:39] <andyrock> *but it's
[12:39]  * didrocks nods at seb128
[12:39] <didrocks> strongly
[12:40] <seb128> come on
[12:40] <seb128> rename the file
[12:40] <seb128> how can that be "major changes"
[12:40] <andyrock> it's not a file
[12:40] <andyrock> it's a rest api
[12:40] <andyrock> http over unix
[12:40] <seb128> well, same, changing a name is probably a sed in their codebase
[12:40] <didrocks> well, at least, say "no version == v1"
[12:40] <didrocks> and then, starts at v2
[12:40] <didrocks> if this wasn't planned from the start (spoiler alert: it should…)
[12:41] <didrocks> well, same, no version in the url == v1
[12:42] <seb128> andyrock, I fail to see how that can be that complicated to version it/do what Didier is describing
[12:42] <seb128> willcooke, can we talk the livepatch team in not being sily?
[12:42] <andyrock> for complicated I mean that it will take time
[12:43] <didrocks> I guess the "more complicated" is about "then, we need to take care of changing and if we do more breaking changes, do a v2, v3, v4…" but yeah, I fail to see as well how this is complicated, it's just more work
[12:43] <didrocks> yeah, proper engineering takes time :)
[12:43] <didrocks> otherwise, this is just developping
[12:43] <andyrock> yeah but we need to deliver something before xmas
[12:44] <andyrock> willcooke: seb128 let me talk with the livepatch again and try to come out with a different solution
[12:44] <andyrock> they're not being sily, it was me that I was not clear enough about the details with them
[12:45] <seb128> k
[12:45] <seb128> thx andyrock
[12:46] <seb128> andyrock, I don't understand enough what the incompatibility is, maybe it would be ok, but it feels like non-good-engineering in any case to do that
[12:46] <seb128> and still an user visible impact even if we SRU
[12:46] <seb128> people do install from the current iso which doesn't have the fix, they are going to see the non fixed codebase the first time
[12:48] <andyrock> kk I'll talk with them
[12:49] <seb128> thx
[13:34] <willcooke> sorry was at lunch, reading
[13:37] <willcooke> andyrock, if you have another call shall seb128 and I join?
[13:38] <oSoMoN> seb128, thanks, will do
[13:40] <oSoMoN> Laney, when you have some time, would you mind reviewing and merging https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+merge/359817 ?
[13:41] <oSoMoN> in preparation for the next bionic SRU, unless there's no bionic SRU in sight, in which case it would be interesting to do one with that one patch (I can do the paperwork)
[13:46] <andyrock> willcooke: was just a quick call to get the details sorted out
[13:47] <andyrock> btw we got it sorted out
[13:47] <andyrock> thx to a mistake I did in the past this is going to be easy to do \o/
[13:47] <andyrock> willcooke: btw sure I'll invite you next time :)
[13:51] <willcooke> andyrock, sounds like you got everything sorted, thank you!  No need to invite me unless you really want to
[13:52] <willcooke> nice work andyrock
[14:14] <clobrano> hi everyone o/
[14:14] <clobrano> didrocks: I want to re-enable *-dark version release in Yaru snap
[14:14] <clobrano> For this I followed the instruction from  https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/yaru-dark-variant/7936/3 and deleted from the .yaml files the lines where the *-dark variant was removed (both snapcraft.yaml and gtk-common-themes-parts.yaml).
[14:14] <clobrano> However, gtk2 is still the light one, unless I change something in yaru's
[14:14] <clobrano> snap/session
[14:14] <clobrano> Moreover, I expected to see Yaru-dark or communitheme-dark folders in /snap/gtk-common-themes/gtk2 snap folder, but there are only the light variants. I am surely missing something
[14:16] <didrocks> clobrano: I don't think the gtk2 thingy was wired in the build system, this surely needs work
[14:18] <clobrano> didrocks: I see, I saw that there were some "rm *-dark" in yaml, so I thought it was available
[14:19] <clobrano> ^ snap/session is the thing that made me think more. It hardcodes the path to only one gtk2 folder
[14:20] <didrocks> clobrano: yeah, I don't remember if that one is an array or a single string, worth a try
[14:20] <didrocks> clobrano: however, they won't be a second session to select dark
[14:21] <clobrano> didrocks: tried, it makes a frankenstein :D, but maybe I did something wrong
[14:21] <didrocks> clobrano: tried export GTK_SOMETHING_RC=firstpath:secondpath ?
[14:21] <clobrano> didrocks: yes, exactly that one
[14:22] <didrocks> hum, worth having a look, but if the second path exists and it doesn't work, maybe not supported by GTK2?
[14:22] <clobrano> it makes a mix of both and changing theme on tweak does nothing
[14:22] <didrocks> yeah, I think tweak doesn't read the variable
[14:23] <clobrano> didrocks: yes, I think so. I'll try to find more info on how to switch gtk2
[14:23] <clobrano> thanks :)
[14:24] <didrocks> clobrano: a fallback would be from the session startup file to read the gsettings key
[14:24] <didrocks> and adjusts as permits
[14:24] <didrocks> still won't enable to switch on the fly, but that's the best I can come up with for now
[14:24] <clobrano> didrocks: this is intersting
[14:24] <clobrano> I'll investigate more
[14:25] <seb128> didrocks, oh btw, I commented/updated the rygel MIR if you could have another look (at least to my comment), security added it to their review queue but said they would prefer a "positive opinion from the MIR team first" (like to be confident their review is not going to be wasted because the MIR is going to be denied at the MIR level)
[14:25] <didrocks> seb128: I saw, on my list for later ;)
[14:25] <seb128> didrocks, great, thx!
[14:25] <Laney> oSoMoN: yes saw the message, can do later
[14:25] <didrocks> I don't remember if the others deps were addressed
[14:26] <seb128> didrocks, not yet, I'm looking at those next but they should be easier
[14:26] <didrocks> seb128: I can only give an "ack if other deps are addressed" then, but I hope this is enough for the security team
[14:26] <didrocks> seb128: btw, I would +1 on multi-arching
[14:27] <didrocks> (so that you not wait on my format comment)
[14:27] <seb128> didrocks, k, I can spend some time on that, I just wanted to unblock security by telling them "should be fine once those packaging problems are resolved, you can review"
[14:27] <didrocks> from memory, this is what you asked (read that early this morning)
[14:27] <didrocks> yeah, I'll still have another look before doing this
[14:27] <seb128> thx
[14:27] <seb128> but agreed
[14:27] <didrocks> like the -dev and such, I don't remember why I reasked about it
[14:27] <seb128> multiarch & autopkgtest are on my list
[14:27] <didrocks> I think it's because you didn't tell which binaries would be promoted
[14:28] <seb128> right
[14:28] <didrocks> if you haven't already, maybe put the list in the description?
[14:28] <didrocks> so that when I then do the promotion, I don't have to think which ones to deal with… :)
[14:28] <seb128> will do
[14:28] <didrocks> thx!
[14:29] <oSoMoN> thanks Laney
[14:29] <didrocks> spice-webdav, you are great, but you are slow… :p
[14:29] <seb128> haha
[14:29]  * willcooke rings the bell
[14:30] <oSoMoN> is it recreation time?
[14:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting - 2018-12-04
[14:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Dec  4 14:30:34 2018 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[14:30] <tseliot> o/
[14:30] <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter,  robert_ancell (out)
[14:31] <oSoMoN> o/
[14:31] <jbicha> o/
[14:31] <didrocks> hey
[14:31] <willcooke> This weeks updates: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/monday-3rd-december-2018/8903/5
[14:32] <seb128> hey
[14:32] <kenvandine> o/
[14:32] <tjaalton> o)
[14:33] <willcooke> Let's start with BB rls bugs:  http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:33] <andyrock> o/
[14:33] <willcooke> One added by seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iputils/+bug/1798313
[14:33] <seb128> yeah, I was unsure if it's important (and I didn't know before we owned iputils :p)
[14:34] <willcooke> Yeah, I was wondering how we came to own that
[14:34] <seb128> but sounds like ipv6 tools would be good to have working in the LTS
[14:34] <seb128> probably n-m stack depedns
[14:34] <willcooke> yeah, likely
[14:34] <willcooke> I'd agree something like that low level tool should work in the LTS
[14:34] <seb128> anyway, I'm not sure it's really worth actively rls tracking but I wanted at least to raise awareness/have it mentioned
[14:35] <willcooke> Is it already on your backlog seb128?
[14:35] <willcooke> or are you looking for someone to work on it?
[14:35] <jbicha> it looks like Server has rdepends for it now. We used to have gnome-nettool in main
[14:36] <seb128> I somewhat have it on my "things to keep an eye on"
[14:36] <seb128> if someone wants to own it feel free
[14:36] <willcooke> oki, I will add it to the agenda for the next Foundations/Server meeting and see if server want to take it on
[14:36] <seb128> that said let's +1/-1 on rls tracking it?
[14:36] <seb128> I think it's too minor so -1 from me :p
[14:37] <didrocks> -1 as well
[14:37] <jbicha> personally, I'd rather let Server or whoever triage it :)
[14:37] <seb128> willcooke, let me rls-bb-notfixing it with a comment then
[14:37] <seb128> and we can try to "sell" iputils to server
[14:37] <willcooke> ack
[14:37] <kenvandine> get top dollar!
[14:38] <seb128> :)
[14:38] <willcooke> k, added to the notes for the next foundations meeting
[14:39] <willcooke> On to CC bugs:  http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:39] <willcooke> Nothing new
[14:39] <willcooke> Doing a quick scan of the others
[14:40] <seb128> willcooke, https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/commit/?id=385a4886
[14:40] <seb128> ups sorry
[14:40] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:40] <seb128> that one has an important one
[14:40] <willcooke> stand by, just checking the other CC bugs to make sure I havent missed anything
[14:41] <seb128> ah ok, I though you forgot -dd and were done with the incoming lists
[14:41] <seb128> sorry :p
[14:41] <willcooke> :)
[14:41] <willcooke> Ok, CC tracking is in good shape.  Everything is assigned and active (even those not showing as assigned are)
[14:42] <willcooke> So now we come to DD incoming: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:42] <seb128> :)
[14:42] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1805857
[14:43] <willcooke> Who can take that one?
[14:43] <seb128> Robie has been nice enough to do debugging on the issue and believes the real problem is on the n-m tests side
[14:43] <seb128> the bug has some debugging details and an easy way to reproduce
[14:43] <seb128> I +1 to nominate it since it blocks things in proposed
[14:43] <willcooke> yeah, +1 to accept it
[14:45] <willcooke> Laney, would you be able to take a look at it?
[14:46] <seb128> he doesn't seem to be around
[14:46] <Laney> yes I am
[14:46] <Laney> guess so
[14:46] <seb128> oh, sorry
[14:47] <Laney> not that I know anything in particular about network-manager
[14:47] <willcooke> thank you Laney
[14:47] <seb128> I though I didn't see you wave or comment earlier so I assumed you were not
[14:47] <Laney> but I take my share of rls bugs :-)
[14:47] <seb128> thx Laney
[14:48] <willcooke> Nothing else for us in incoming.  There are a couple of Ubiquity related ones, one of which andyrock is already looking at and the other is a minor string change which I can probably make an MP for easy enough
[14:48] <andyrock> am I?
[14:49] <willcooke> andyrock, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1797381
[14:49] <andyrock> ah that's not real a problem with Ubiquity
[14:49] <andyrock> more ibus + gnome-shell
[14:49] <seb128> we really need to sort out those OSK issues
[14:50] <willcooke> Should that one be a rls tracked bug?
[14:50] <seb128> andyrock, let's talk about them tomorrow, I might go coworking on Carlos friday so I can talk directly with him about things that are on our list
[14:50] <willcooke> seb128 thanks, if it's not rls worthy could you untag it once you know more?
[14:50] <andyrock> seb128: kk
[14:51] <seb128> willcooke, k, well it's tagged but ubiquity is on the foundations list
[14:51] <seb128> andyrock, that one is more a gnome-shell issue though no?
[14:51] <willcooke> sure, but if the problem is elsewhere then it should probably be changed too
[14:51] <andyrock> yes it's a gnome-shell issue (or ibus)
[14:51] <andyrock> I know the problem but there is not an easy fix
[14:52] <andyrock> let's discuss it tomorrow
[14:52] <seb128> k
[14:52] <willcooke> thx
[14:52] <willcooke> Ok, on to proposed migration issues:
[14:52] <willcooke> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[14:52] <seb128> before we wrap bugs
[14:52] <willcooke> oops
[14:52] <willcooke> soprry
[14:52] <seb128> k, or later :p
[14:52] <willcooke> go on seb128
[14:52] <seb128> bug #1749672 is on the bb list unassigned
[14:52] <seb128> kenvandine, ^ you nominated it, can you get it assigned? to you as a default maybe?
[14:53] <kenvandine> yes
[14:53] <seb128> thx
[14:53] <kenvandine> i'll do that
[14:53] <willcooke> thx kenvandine
[14:53] <kenvandine> still waiting on security though
[14:53] <willcooke> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[14:54] <willcooke> Laney, do you want to do a run through? Or shall I go through them one by one?
[14:54] <Laney> i'm good
[14:54] <Laney> n-m is assigned
[14:54] <Laney> libreoffice ought to be fixed
[14:54] <jbicha> poppler is blocked by LO & xpdf https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/poppler.html
[14:54] <oSoMoN> I'm looking at LO
[14:54] <oSoMoN> still struggling to reproduce locally the unit test failures
[14:55] <Laney> jbicha: i'll lead this, thanks
[14:55] <seb128> oSoMoN, any chance you get it sorted out before your long w.e?
[14:55] <oSoMoN> seb128, that's definitely my top priority
[14:55] <seb128> k
[14:55] <Laney> thx
[14:55] <Laney> so for poppler, I started looking at xpdf
[14:55] <Laney> would be good if someone can help out with other things
[14:56] <seb128> I can do the MIR for the new font depends
[14:56] <seb128> fonts-yrsa-rasa
[14:56] <Laney> yeh
[14:56] <seb128> I guess enchant/hunspell is libreoffice blocked
[14:56] <seb128> ?
[14:57] <Laney> think so, let's look at those once it is unblocked
[14:57] <seb128> k
[14:57] <Laney> just poppler and tracker for someone to help on I think
[14:57] <willcooke> cups-filters looks like its poppler again
[14:57] <Laney> yes
[14:57] <seb128> jbicha, what's the deal with tracker? are you handling that one?
[14:58] <seb128> Laney, poppler is there more needed if olivier do libreoffice and you xpdf? or did you need help on xpdf?
[14:58] <jbicha> seb128: I'm stuck on tracker, I reported the issues upstream. We could fix the autopkgtest regression if we switched back to autotools
[14:58] <Laney> dunno, I didn't analyse every package
[14:58] <Laney> the task would be partially to do that
[14:58] <Laney> and then help fix anything left over
[14:58] <seb128> Laney, k, I'm going to try to help on poppler as well and review the list
[14:59] <Laney> ty
[14:59] <willcooke> thank you chaps
[14:59] <jbicha> I believe those are the only 2 blockers for poppler really. perl needs to clean its autopkgtest queue & there are a few leaf packages to be removed like
[14:59] <jbicha> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/hunspell.html
[14:59] <seb128> on tracker I don't have a strong opinion
[15:00] <seb128> if it's not blocking other things it's probably fine to wait a bit on upstream
[15:00] <seb128> if the MIR is approved and we want to enable it in nautilus and need to unblock then we can revert to autotools
[15:00] <seb128> imho
[15:00] <seb128> or proper fix which would be even better
[15:00]  * Laney shrugs
[15:00] <Laney> I'd rather assign someone to sort it out one way or another
[15:00] <Laney> than decide now how to fix it
[15:00] <tkamppeter> willcooke, for cups-filters there came some fixes to fit it to current Poppler recently. I will soon make a new release. In general, I hope to get a GSoC student modify pdftoraster to stop using unstable Poppler interfaces.
[15:01] <willcooke> thx tkamppeter
[15:01] <seb128> andyrock, I know you are busy, do you think you could have a look to the track test issue this week or next?
[15:02] <seb128> andyrock, feel free to tell me you prefer not if you are already packed with that livepatch work
[15:02] <Laney> not sure it was that cool to switch and upload a broken version
[15:02] <andyrock> seb128: I'll take a look
[15:02] <seb128> thx andyrock!
[15:02] <seb128> and yeah, uploading something buggy and not sorting it out is not the best :/
[15:03] <seb128> I guess we covered the list now?
[15:03] <jbicha> Laney: if you're talking to me, I'm trying to run autopkgtest more before I do major uploads like the tracker meson switch
[15:03] <jbicha> I'm ok with switching it back to autotools for a bit. The meson build is less ideal for us right now anyway
[15:03] <andyrock> seb128: is there a bug somewhere?
[15:04] <andyrock> or issue
[15:05] <seb128> andyrock, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/tracker/issues/59
[15:05] <gitbot> GNOME issue 59 in tracker "functional-16-collation test failures" [Opened]
[15:05] <seb128> willcooke, Laney, AOB I guess?
[15:05] <andyrock> thx
[15:05] <willcooke> #topic AOB
[15:06] <willcooke> Anyone got anything?
[15:06] <kenvandine> nope
[15:06] <seb128> not me
[15:06] <willcooke> going once
[15:06] <andyrock> 😶
[15:06] <Laney> jbicha: yes, I think experimental & filing bugs in advance rather than breaking the 'production' suites would have been better
[15:06] <jbicha> andyrock: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/tracker/issues/61 is the other bug
[15:06] <gitbot> GNOME issue 61 in tracker "tracker-miner-fs test: Parent recursive/4 not indexed yet" [Opened]
[15:06] <Laney> i.e. I would suggest switching back
[15:07] <Laney> glib's conversion has been done well in this regard
[15:07] <Laney> sorry, didn't mean to interrupt the aob
[15:07] <willcooke> np
[15:07] <jbicha> ok, I'll switch tracker back to autotools to unblock things
[15:07] <willcooke> I think we can end here and carry on afterwards
[15:07] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[15:07] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Dec  4 15:07:47 2018 UTC.
[15:07] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-12-04-14.30.moin.txt
[15:07] <willcooke> thanks all
[15:07] <andyrock> thx
[15:07] <oSoMoN> thanks
[15:08] <didrocks> thx
[15:08] <seb128> thx!
[15:15] <seb128> kenvandine, do you think you get give a try to the xserver ppa version from bug #1754693 to see if that fixes the issue with classic snaps on wayland?
[15:15] <kenvandine> sure
[15:15] <kenvandine> should that work in a VM?
[15:16] <seb128> thx
[15:16] <seb128> if wayland works in a VM I guess?
[15:16] <kenvandine> that's what i was wondering :)
[15:16] <Laney> does if you use qxl
[15:17] <kenvandine> i'll see what i can do
[15:19] <kenvandine> oh, the ppa is for cosmic :)
[15:19] <kenvandine> i can just test that locally then
[15:24] <seb128> Laney, just as a follow up, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fonts-yrsa-rasa/+bug/1806712
[15:29] <Laney> nice
[15:30] <seb128> kenvandine, willcooke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/1803534/comments/11 :(
[15:31] <willcooke> urgh
[15:31] <willcooke> undo! undo!
[15:37] <ricotz> is there package which contains "xdg-dbus-proxy" yet?
[15:40] <seb128> hey ricotz, I don't know what that is and if we have a package for it
[15:42] <kenvandine> seb128: it doesn't crash
[15:42] <seb128> kenvandine, \o/, thanks for testing!
[15:42] <jbicha> xdg-dbus-proxy was split out of flatpak. I believe mcatanzaro said it would be needed for the next major webkit release
[15:43] <ricotz> seb128, it is a build-dep of webkit 2.23.x and seems to be a split-out from flatpak -- https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-dbus-proxy
[15:43] <jbicha> ricotz: I suggest talking to smcv since he's done most of the flatpak packaging so far
[15:43] <ricotz> jbicha, ;)
[15:45]  * didrocks wonders how connecting a destroy signal (without doing anything in the callback) trigger a segfault in gjs…
[15:51] <kenvandine> popey: PR submitted fixing irccloud-desktop on wayland :)
[15:58] <didrocks> interesting, the object is GC *before* the destroy signal is handled by gjs when app is closing
[15:59] <seb128> js debugging fun? ;)
[16:00] <didrocks> well js bindings debugging fun… :/
[16:37] <tseliot> Wimpress: hey, the issue you brought up about nvidia (the one on reddit) is fixed now (or, rather, worked around): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-410/+bug/1804738
[16:40] <Wimpress> tseliot: Thanks!
[16:40] <tseliot> :)
[18:08] <willcooke> night all
[22:37] <jbicha> ximion: hi, I guess we're supposed to have appstream metadata for system-installed GNOME Shell extensions
[22:37] <jbicha> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-tweaks/merge_requests/25
[22:37] <gitbot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 25 in gnome-tweaks "extensions: Fix opening system installed extensions in gnome-software" [Opened]
[22:37] <jbicha> do you want me to open an asgen bug?
[22:39] <ximion> jbicha: the appstream metadata that GNOME extensions uses does not follow the standard at all and introduces a new toplevel component type of "shell-extension" that will never ever be added to the specification. Even hughsie agrees that it was a mistake to implement this, and that the GNOME Shell extensions should really be of type "addon" and extend "org.gnome.Shell".
[22:40] <ximion> I could think about allowing something in that converts the metadata trsnaparently to how it actually should look like, but then the data wouldn't be of much use. I also don't want to add the component type to the AppStream reference implementation
[22:41] <jbicha> addon makes sense
[22:41] <ximion> so, ideally the metadata would just be standard-compliant and use AppStream's addon system properly - AFAIK the only thing this hasn't been done yet is lack of someone doing the work, as well as legacy compatibility issues
[22:43] <jbicha> I'm thinking we should open a bug somewhere so that can be documented
[22:43] <ximion> yes, probably
[22:43] <ximion> I also think it's a solvable issue, but it just hasn't been a high enough priority yet
[22:44] <ximion> hughsie and I actually want to reduce the delta between GNOME's AppStream and the spec, this shell-extension stuff is a quite significant piece
[22:45] <ximion> (and a bit frustrating, since it wouldn't have needed to exist in the first place)
[22:45] <jbicha> I'd been wondering why shell extensions UI didn't work well (when linked to from Tweaks). I didn't realize until now that it works better in Fedora
[22:45] <jbicha> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/issues/222 was my original bug
[22:45] <gitbot> GNOME issue 222 in gnome-software "shell-extensions: [3.25.91] --details incorrectly shows extension as available instead of installed" [Bugzilla, Closed]
[22:46] <jbicha> do we want the bug in Launchpad or somewhere else?


[17:54] <croxio5> Heithar
[17:58] <brobostigon> helo
[18:05] <brobostigon> croxio5: lontime no speak.
[18:05] <brobostigon> longtime*
[18:27] <croxio5> Yeah
[18:27] <croxio5> Sorry, been doing a lot of stuff.
[18:27] <croxio5> Moved to England for one.
[18:27] <croxio5> (boooo)
[18:27] <brobostigon> oh, interesting.
[18:50] <brobostigon> croxio5: why?


[22:02] <marsje> does anyone know if any recent update causes a crash of gnome or something introduced a new key combination that logs you out without warning?
[22:02] <manas> i need IE to listen to my class online
[22:02] <manas> Diago: its urgent
[22:02] <jl> ?
[22:03] <Dimitar> Hey guys, could someone help me out with an issue?
[22:03] <Dimitar> I've searched around on the forums.
[22:03] <Dimitar> Couldn't find a solution.
[22:03] <dAlfa89_> manas, why IE specifically? Does it use some kind of ActiveX control?
[22:03] <Slart> OddCharm: I don't think so.. at least not from the official page
[22:03] <CamFox> manas: is wine installed?
[22:03] <ghostdog> does anybody know about the f9-function? Don't know what to do...
[22:03] <manas> YES
[22:03] <jsec> ask! | Dimitar
[22:03] <Hykis> I've just loaded Server 9.10 and am trying to follow the online docs to set up MySql cluster manager, but "apt-get mysql-server" does not install any file resembling "mysql-ndb-mgm" I can't find a solution on any forums or google searches.  Can anyone assist me?
[22:03] <q_> manas try    http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[22:03] <manas> I DOnt know why, its a mystery for me too
[22:03] <blakkheim> Hykis: aptitude install mysql-server
[22:03] <gert1> manas: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=469
[22:03] <dAlfa89_> manas, WINE has a version of IE, it's pretty unstable for the most part, but it probably works enough to do what you want
[22:04] <Slart> OddCharm: do you need an .img file for some reason? isos doesn't work?
[22:04] <princifamily> c'è qualcuno che potrebbe dirmi come scrivere i simboli EURO e CHIOCCIOLA su ubuntu 9.10?
[22:04] <VCoolio> ghostdog: did you check system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts?
[22:04] <xangua> !it | princifamily
[22:04] <ghostdog> Vcoolio: Yes...I did
[22:04] <deletet> VCoolio this is good? http://paste.ubuntu.com/383269/
[22:04] <morten_> why does my webcam only work in cheese and non of the messenger programs?
[22:05] <OddCharm> Slart, when i use unetbootin to make a usb disk of the alt installer, it stalls when looking for a cd drive from which to find the rest of the installation media :(
[22:05] <Hykis> Google'n "aptitude install mysql-server" thanks
[22:05] <blakkheim> Hykis: no, that's the command to run
[22:05] <VCoolio> deletet: the ones on lines 4 and 5 will never get executed this way
[22:05] <sonicroxs> Hi, I installed a package that wont let me boot Ubuntu. I am using a Live CD and would like to know how to remove that package manually.
[22:06] <Slart> OddCharm: I've never used unetbootin.. but you can mount isos in linux just fine.. if that's what you're trying to do
[22:06] <blakkheim> sonicroxs: chroot, uninstall it
[22:06] <Hykis> run "aptitude" instead of apt-get on Ubuntu server?
[22:06] <pting> i've got a something mounted on a directory. is  there a way to check the permissions on the directory without unmounting it first?
[22:06] <deletet> VCoolio whii? is not good?
[22:06] <dwwe> hi
[22:06] <sonicroxs> thanks blakkheim, didn't remember that command
[22:06] <LateralForce> !hi | dwwe
[22:06] <blakkheim> Hykis: i gave you the command to run to install the package
[22:07] <VCoolio> deletet: you need to specify the time to execute instead of the first five stars
[22:07] <OddCharm> Slart, no, i want to boot from the alt disk so that i can install to the local drive (with options only available in the alt disk) is it possible to run the alt installer from within ubuntu?
[22:07] <dwwe> what are most computer games programmed with? still c++? Or is it c#`?
[22:07] <Hykis> Blakkheim: thanks running it... is aptitude preferred to apt-get?
[22:07] <jsec> pting, ls -l
[22:07] <blakkheim> Hykis: i prefer it, others prefer apt-get. it's just opinion.
[22:08] <Slart> OddCharm: hmm.. not sure.. I don't think so
[22:08] <LateralForce> !offtopic | dwwe
[22:08] <OddCharm> more fiddling then. caio
[22:08] <VCoolio> deletet: read here for example http://adminschoice.com/crontab-quick-reference
[22:08] <ghostdog> Vcoolio: There is nothing linked to F9....anymore ideas?
[22:08] <Slart> dwwe: most? I would say actionscript/flash
[22:08] <dwwe> LateralForce: I know, but where to ask?
[22:08] <Dimitar> Alright, so after restarting last night, I get this black screen upon login with a loading cursor on my screen. It's responsive, and the prompt for a keyring comes up, but the edges aren't smooth. Kind of like a classic windows theme.
[22:08] <pedrohoffmann> Why  banshee doest add to playlist a folder mounted with CiFS?
[22:08] <pedrohoffmann> just file per file
[22:08] <Slart> dwwe: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:08] <Dimitar> From what I've gathered on the forums, gdm isn't starting properly.
[22:09] <fernandoc1> guys
[22:09] <morten_> anyone who can help me with getting my webcam to work? or knows where I should ask?
[22:09] <fernandoc1> I need help setting up a webcam
[22:09] <sonicroxs> Hey blakkheim, i am not able to change my root folder because i don't have the permissions necessary...
[22:09] <blakkheim> !webcam > morten_
[22:09] <fernandoc1> it is a ZC0301 Webcam
[22:09] <blakkheim> !webcam > fernandoc1
[22:09] <fernandoc1> can someone help me?
[22:09] <ghostdog> cant believe i am the only one with that annoying F9-key-problem
[22:10] <deletet> VCoolio can help mi a litle to setup my crons >? i will tell you what i need  http://paste.ubuntu.com/383273/
[22:10] <sonicroxs> Hey, I am not able to Chroot from Live cd... help
[22:10] <gert1> Hykis: you command was missing 'install': apt-get install mysql-server
[22:10] <blakkheim> sonicroxs: man chroot
[22:11] <red> Mmh, anyone know alternatives to manage desktop under GNOME? (apart from nautilus and pcmanfm)
[22:11] <sonicroxs> ok i type chroot and then I copy and paste the localization of the root folder i want to change to, but it says Permission Denied
[22:12] <Hykis> gert1: I'm sorry, I mistyped my statement.  I was able to install mysql-server with apt-get, however, according to all guides on MySQL clustering, I should have a binary named "mysql-ndb-mgm" to run on the cluster controller.  I can find nowhere where that file may be installed expect possibly by compiling the source.
[22:12] <Hykis> expect => except*
[22:12] <blakkheim> sonicroxs: read the manpage of chroot so you better understand how the command works
[22:12] <sonicroxs> ok
[22:12] <duffydack> cairodock or docky......cant choose
[22:12] <Dimitar> How would I go about reinstalling my graphics drivers?
[22:12] <Mirroo> nvidia or ati?
[22:13] <Dimitar> nVidia.
[22:13] <Mirroo> gnome?
[22:13] <gert1> Hykis: locate mysql-ndb-mgm
[22:13] <xangua> duffydack: docky :)
[22:13] <Dimitar> Yes, gnome.
[22:13] <Hykis> gert1: find / -name "mysql-ndb-mgm" returns nothing
[22:13]  * Dimitar is a real linux noob.
[22:13] <Mirroo> go -->system-->systemconfig-->hardwaredriver
[22:13] <Mirroo> and let search the newst one...
[22:14] <Dimitar> Well, the problem is that I can't access the gui.
[22:14] <Mirroo> oh...
[22:14] <Mirroo> you have 9.10?
[22:14] <Dimitar> When I boot up, I get a black screen.
[22:14] <Dimitar> Yes, Karmic.
[22:14] <Dimitar> And I also get a loading cursor which is responsive.
[22:14] <Dimitar> And I get prompted for a keyring.
[22:14] <Dimitar> But nothing else loads.
[22:14] <Mirroo> did you try to config, you xorg.conf?
[22:15] <jl> is it a laptop
[22:15] <Dimitar> Yes it is.
[22:15] <Dimitar> I'm running on an nForce 630m chipset.
[22:15] <Dimitar> And I did try to config xorg.
[22:15] <fernandoc1> Dimitar: have you installed the official nvidia drivers?
[22:15] <Dimitar> But the only thing I changed was the driver to use "vesa" instead of "nvidia".
[22:15] <Dimitar> I had done so, yes.
[22:16] <Dimitar> And they worked for a month or so.
[22:16] <fernandoc1> Then you should reinstall the drivers
[22:16] <fernandoc1> via command line
[22:16] <jl> did you just patch the kernel
[22:16] <Dimitar> Yeah, I gave the update manager the go-ahead last night.
[22:16] <Dimitar> And I only glimpsed over the updates.
[22:16] <gert1> Hykis: Try the command "locate mysql-ndb-mgm"
[22:17] <Dimitar> fernandoc1: that was my original question. How would I reinstall the drivers via commandline?
[22:17] <jl> yeah the update killed the driver reinstall the driver from nvidia
[22:17] <CyberGabber> guntbert: /join #vbox
[22:17] <fernandoc1> When booting Ubuntu
[22:17] <jl> nvida had the steps with the download
[22:17] <Dimitar> Oh, alright.
[22:17] <fernandoc1> you choose the option to boot at safe mode
[22:17] <fernandoc1> then you will need to find
[22:18] <Hykis> gert1: did, no hits.
[22:18] <fernandoc1> here did you put the nvidia installer
[22:18] <Lord-Readman> what is the gnome menu called at the top in ubunut?
[22:18] <fernandoc1> then it is only call the installer
[22:18] <fernandoc1> and wait it to finnish
[22:18] <Dimitar> Alright, roger that. Thanks a lot for the help.
[22:18] <blakkheim> Lord-Readman: gnome-panel
[22:18] <jl> Dimitar you might want to make a script to auto mate that since everytime you patch the kernel you will need to do this
[22:19] <message144> Hi, I have a Dell Inspiron 17". When I go to the ubuntu install, it hangs after selecting "Install Ubuntu". I have tried both 64 and 32 bit. I have md5summed the isos. I have tested my memory. I have tried using usb stick and bootable cd. I have tried using no acpi. None of these worked. Any suggestions?
[22:19] <Lord-Readman> thanks
[22:19] <Dimitar> jl: good advice. I'll look into that as soon as I temporarily fix this issue.
[22:19] <Dimitar> I would also have to download the nvidia drivers via command line, right??
[22:20] <jl> wget
[22:20] <jl> yeah
[22:20] <fernandoc1> if you deleted the installer
[22:20] <fernandoc1> yes
[22:20] <jl> just keep the installer for future use
[22:20] <fernandoc1> In Ubuntu
[22:20] <fernandoc1> is recomended
[22:20] <fernandoc1> to use the drivers
[22:21] <fernandoc1> that are in repository
[22:21] <fernandoc1> to avoid this kind of trouble
[22:21] <jl> some times the drivers in there dont work to good for laptops
[22:21] <blakkheim> !enter | fernandoc1
[22:21] <Dimitar> I should be able to do this via tty1-6, right? I tried booting into root shell with networking, but I need an ethernet cord, which I don't have at this moment.
[22:22] <Dimitar> When I boot normally, I get blackscreened, but I can detect wifi.
[22:22] <jl> are you on the system now
[22:23] <Dimitar> Yes, I'm on the laptop now.
[22:23] <Dimitar> I'm dual booting Windows, and that's what I'm typing from now.
[22:24] <LateralForce> !envyng | Maybe this can help:
[22:24] <jl> then  just download the driver and mount the ntfs part and install it from there
[22:24] <Natty2K10> hi
[22:24] <LateralForce> !hi | Natty2K10
[22:24] <badbandit> hey earlier i had a question about doing a reverse() to redirect with a parameter.. anyone that has a chance peep http://pastebin.com/jRNWYMwi and tell me whats wrong iwth that
[22:24] <badbandit> doesnt work
[22:24] <Dravekx> how can I uninstall all the lamp features from karmic?
[22:24] <Dimitar> Haha jl.
[22:25] <jb92837> Is there a GUI way to connect via wifi to my router, instead of using command line things like ifconfig and iwconfig
[22:25] <badbandit> i know i forgot a ) in reverse line... didnt fix ti
[22:25] <badbandit> it
[22:25] <Dimitar> I'll have to look all of that up before doing anything. I'm not sure how to do any of that.
[22:25] <forceflow> jb92837: checkout network-manager or wicd
[22:25] <Dimitar> But I'm learning as I go.
[22:25] <jb92837> forceflow; thanks
[22:25] <Culebra> ola
[22:25] <jl> install lynx
[22:25] <jl> its a text base web browser
[22:25] <VCoolio> deletet: sorry, had to go; have you succeeded in setting op crontab?
[22:25] <Culebra> ay alguin de españa??
[22:26] <xangua> !es | Culebra
[22:26] <Hykis> How about a different question (same one worded differently): Has anyone been able to install a MySQL cluster on 9.10 Server?
[22:27] <m_fulder> my deluge won't check more then 2 torrents why is that?
[22:28] <deletet> VCoolio no suces my first time and not now how
[22:29] <Lord-Readman> hmm AMD64 or x86_64 ? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23732/
[22:29] <VCoolio> deletet: when do you want to execute it?
[22:30] <deletet> VCoolio like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/383273/
[22:31] <VCoolio> deletet: you can also replace stars with @hourly @dayly @weekly @monthly, every minute seems overdone for any command
[22:32] <VCoolio> deletet: */5 * * * *   would be every 5 minutes, so */1 * * * *  is every minute I guess
[22:33] <deletet> :)
[22:33] <deletet> i  try right now
[22:34] <Genti> hey all, installed postfix according to the guide, it seems to have worked fine and the testing seems OK.
[22:34] <Genti> however im telneting and trying to send an email
[22:34] <Genti> but i get a access relay denied
[22:34] <takuan> can somebody tell me how to setup the sound group
[22:34] <takuan> i installed a barebones ubuntu and have not run the usual setup
[22:34] <takuan> so sound works when I work with sudo, but not as a regular user
[22:35] <VCoolio> takuan: what if you add yourself to the audio group with system > admin > users and groups?
[22:35] <otter_> takuan, sudo adduser <username> audio
[22:36] <takuan> the audio group does not exist
[22:36] <takuan> and if I add it manually it doesn't work as expected
[22:36] <Hykis> Found my problem: "Beginning with MySQL 5.1.24, support for the NDBCLUSTER storage engine was removed from the standard MySQL server binaries built by MySQL."
[22:36] <Welshy-Rob> join #ubuntu-cym
[22:37] <Hykis> Thanks for helping
[22:37] <VCoolio> takuan: what about the pulse group? Sounds audio-related
[22:37] <takuan> doesn't exist either
[22:37] <arleslie_> !help | takuan
[22:38] <^sn00per^> ardchoille, sup?
[22:38] <takuan> ok
[22:38] <Genti> hey all, installed postfix according to the guide, it seems to have worked fine and the testing seems OK. however im telneting and trying to send an email but i get a access relay denied
[22:38] <otter_> arleslie, pretty sure he/she implied a question above
[22:39] <takuan> i don't have the audio group since I did a bare bones ubuntu install without audio, how can I setup the audio group correctly? Alsa output does work but only if I run the program as sudo
[22:39] <arleslie> otter_, sorry my connection laged and at the time I sent the message I only saw "can someone help me with sound"
[22:42] <darolu> takuan: You can try using the command: chmod 777  :group <device> or even chown :group <device>
[22:43] <Welshy-Rob> can someone help me with this, http://pastebin.com/VrQycgEh
[22:43] <darolu> takuan: it is usually under /dev/audio
[22:43] <takuan> darolu: on which files?
[22:43] <takuan> ah
[22:43] <takuan> so I add the audio group
[22:44] <takuan> add change the group owner on /dev/audio?
[22:44] <Nitsuga> darolu, that wouldn't work
[22:44] <Nitsuga> as /dev is regenerated on each boot
[22:44] <takuan> I was afraid so
[22:44] <Nitsuga> and the permissions are reset each x minutes
[22:44] <takuan> which part of the install is responsible for setting up this group?
[22:44] <Nitsuga> takuan, installing pulseaudio and adding your user to audio and pulse groups should work
[22:44] <faraway> hi everyone ... i have a configuration script that does some checks on my server. form this script i call some "sub" scripts, is it possible that these scripts run as an other user ?
[22:45] <Nitsuga> faraway, of course, su -u user command
[22:45] <takuan> Nitsuga: that fails because the group "audio" does not exist...
[22:45] <CamFox> faraway: man sudo
[22:45] <Nitsuga> faraway, sorry, i meant su "command" user
[22:46] <Nitsuga> i confused su with sudo, shich is sudo -u user command
[22:46] <sludge> hey if I want to install ubuntu to a bootable USB drive and be able to save files etc.  what is the easiest way?
[22:46] <darolu> takuan: do you have /etc/group file?
[22:47] <takuan> sure
[22:47] <idespinner> sludge, start wih unetbootin...
[22:47] <takuan> I wouldn't be able to boot i guess
[22:47] <sludge> use livecd or is that what usb startup disk reator is about???
[22:47] <takuan> maybe if I add the audio group and reboot, would that do something?
[22:47] <takuan> i'll try and come back
[22:47] <sludge> unetbootin is same or different than usb startup disk creator????
[22:48] <Genti> Feb 24 14:41:28 ubuntu postfix/smtpd[10103]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[::1]: 554 5.7.1<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Relay access denied; from=<genti><EMAIL_ADDRESS>proto=ESMTP helo=<localhost>
[22:48] <rabar> I ran top and I see about a total of ~27m of RES memory usage. But if I type free -m I see that I have only 38mb/256mb free.. what gives?
[22:48] <Genti> any ideas why i cant send mail?
[22:48] <faraway> Nitsuga: had tried it with "sudo -u www-data" but the script still tells me that its my user and not www-data    su "command" user  tells me "Unknwon id: "
[22:48] <Middleman> hey, whats up with the date command;  apt-show-versions > 'date +%F'.installed.packages.list puts text date instead of the month day year
[22:48] <jb92837> genti; are you trying to send to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:48] <Seveas> Middleman, '' isn't ``
[22:48] <Genti> any email, really
[22:48] <Middleman> how did u type that serveas i couldnt figure thoes qutoes out
[22:49] <Genti> i changed<EMAIL_ADDRESS>so that i didnt show my own adderess
[22:49] <Seveas> Middleman, I only use $(...) instead of ``
[22:49] <jb92837> genti, not sure then :( im a noob
[22:49] <Seveas> apt-show-versions > $(date +%F).installed.packages.list
[22:49] <Middleman> dudu, you fuckin rock!!
[22:49]  * Genti sighs
[22:49] <Seveas> Middleman, language please...
[22:49] <Middleman> parlevous francies?
[22:49] <kaddi>  hi, i installed my system from a flash drive, how can i set up sources.list so i can install software from said flash drive?
[22:49] <Middleman> hehe
[22:49] <Diverdude> Is it possible to install fortran 95 compiler on ubuntu?
[22:49] <kaddi> !fr
[22:50] <Middleman> ahh
[22:50] <Seveas> Middleman, oui, mais pas ici
[22:50] <Genti> Feb 24 14:41:28 ubuntu postfix/smtpd[10103]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[::1]: 554 5.7.1<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Relay access denied; from=<genti><EMAIL_ADDRESS>proto=ESMTP helo=<localhost>
[22:50]  * Middleman smiles
[22:50] <takuan> ok, problem solved
[22:50] <Genti> any clue why i cant send mail?
[22:50] <takuan> it was as simple as that
[22:50] <darolu> takuan: add this line to your /etc/group file: audio:x:29:<user>
[22:50] <darolu> takuan: nevermind...
[22:50] <takuan> just add the audio group and reboot
[22:50] <takuan> thanks for the help anyway ;)
[22:50] <m_fulder> I can't use the comman "make" I get the error: make: *** No rule to make target `makefile'.  Stop. ... why??
[22:50] <faraway> Nitsuga: sorry .. seems to work .. the problems is something else
[22:50] <darolu> takuan, glad it works now
[22:50]  * takuan too
[22:51] <jb92837> when making a shell script do i have to put #!/bin/bash in the first line, is that just a comment or does it have to be there for the script to work? and named whatever.sh? sorry this is my first shell script
[22:51] <takuan> bye
[22:51] <airtonix> jb92837, yes
[22:51] <FloodBot4> !netsplit
[22:51] <jb92837> airtonix, so yes it is a comment? or yes it has to be there to work
[22:52] <airtonix> jb92837, that first line tells the environment what interprator to use to run the commands... you need it.
[22:52] <Typos_King> jb92837:   yes
[22:52] <sludge> is unetbootin is same or different than usb startup disk creator????
[22:52] <jb92837> airtonix, ok thanks
[22:52] <Typos_King> jb92837:    it's a way to tell it which shell to use for its execution, as opposed to perl/tcsh/zsh/else
[22:53] <Middleman> Seveas; how did u go about running apt-show-versions /usr/bin/last
[22:53] <darolu> sludge: I think it is a different app
[22:53] <kaddi> wb all :D
[22:53] <sludge> i read this post and followed it but get kernel panic, is there not some easier way to install a persistent version of ubuntu on usb drive for booting from any pc?
[22:53] <^sn00per^> wb spilters!!
[22:53] <Seveas> Middleman, what is the information you're after?
[22:54] <airtonix> jb92837, so that means you could have #!/usr/bin/lua or #!/bin/python.... or whatever language engine you want... that first line just directs the environment to the binary that will read the rest of the file
[22:54] <sludge> http://iwebdevel.com/2010/02/13/how-to-install-portable-linux-ubuntu-on-a-bootable-usb-flash-drive-from-sun-virtualbox/
[22:55] <sludge> this method give me kernel panic, I gotta think there is another way
[22:55] <Diverdude> Is it possible to install fortran 95 compiler on ubuntu?
[22:55] <Jordan_U> sludge, If it's large enough just do a standard install
[22:56] <Nitsuga> sludge, an easy way is having a ext3 parition with the exact label "casper-rw"
[22:56] <CarlFK> how do I "stop selinux"
[22:57] <Szunti> Diverdude gfortran package?
[22:57] <Nitsuga> Diverdude, see package gfortran
 it is 8 gb and do you mean from livecd or is that where I could use virtual box to install it (also is it true to not use swap file for usb flash drive as it will wear it out)?
[22:57] <Jordan_U> CarlFK, selinux is not used in Ubuntu by default ( apparmor is )
[22:57] <CarlFK> Jordan_U: ok, how do I stop that?
[22:57] <Jordan_U> CarlFK, Why do you want to stop it?
[22:57] <kn100> how do I do a subscript 2 in openoffice?
[22:58] <Genti> any clue why i cant send mail?
[22:58] <Genti> Feb 24 14:41:28 ubuntu postfix/smtpd[10103]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[::1]: 554 5.7.1<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Relay access denied; from=<genti><EMAIL_ADDRESS>proto=ESMTP helo=<localhost>
[22:58] <Nitsuga> sludge, you can have easy persistency by making a ext3 partition labeled "casper-rw" on any device that can be detected by the kernel and adding "peristency" to de boot line
[22:58] <blakkheim> Genti: have you considered using mailx+ssmtp instead?
[22:58] <Red_HamsterX> kn100, right-rlick it and look at the 'style' menu.
[22:58] <CarlFK> Jordan_U:  trying to install http://freesentral.com, got "Could not connect to the database" and a dev said  "you must stop selinux"
[22:59] <Genti> blakkheim im not too savy unfortunately, i was having sendmail problems and installed postfix
[22:59] <Genti> the relay access denied is what i think is stopping me?
[22:59] <darolu> !apparmor > CarlFK
[22:59] <Genti> i send a mail internaly and i think it worked
[22:59] <kn100> Red_HamsterX: <3
 so if I have 8gb usb with one partition FAT32 (for data) and another partition ext3 (is a journaling system not bad for usb because of wear and tear) labeled casper-rw and bootable and persistent.....then it should work?
[23:00] <Typos_King> CarlFK:      check in your bootup services with something like sysv-rc-conf, it'll show if apparmor is running or not at boot and allows you to stop with '-'
[23:00] <blakkheim> Genti: i use mailx+ssmtp to send gmail from the cli
[23:00] <bombel> (My OS: Ubuntu 9.10 ) Hi everyone. Does anyone know the answer for this issue? I get it when I try to extract a concrete .zip file. By the way, this zip file was generated in windows. http://pastebin.com/zGNXFER8
[23:00] <Red_HamsterX> bombel, 7zip != zip.
[23:00] <blakkheim> bombel: have you tried "unzip ola.zip"
[23:01] <Genti> blakkheim- i thought i was sending an email TO gmail from..my telnet
[23:01] <Typos_King> bombel:    to 'this' issue?   which one?
[23:02] <windows7jk> hi yall
[23:02] <LateralForce> !hi | windows7jk
[23:02] <Principito> what does sudo apt-get moo works for?
[23:03] <windows7jk> to get some milk
[23:03] <Typos_King> moo?
[23:03] <Typos_King> hehe   I guess so hehe
[23:03] <Principito> i want milk
[23:03] <darolu> Principito: that by itself does nothing; if you include "install" you'll install the package moo
[23:03] <Principito> what is the moo package?
[23:03] <Typos_King> hehe   sudo apt-cache search moo  // :)
[23:03] <darolu> Principito: does not exist
[23:03] <windows7jk> The Debian GNU/Linux package tool apt-get has an Easter egg involving an ASCII cow when variants on "apt-get moo" are typed into the shell.
[23:03] <Typos_King> search it
[23:03] <Principito> XD
[23:04] <blakkheim> i prefer cowsay
[23:04] <VCoolio> Principito: also read the end line of apt-get --help
[23:04] <Jordan_U> sludge, Yes, I mean from the LiveCD.  great.  (i guess that is good)
[23:05] <Jordan_U> sludge, I would say you should have a swap partition ( or file ) but set swappiness to 0 so that it is only used when absolutely neccisary
[23:05] <windows7jk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190938
[23:05] <bombel> I believe this may be an issue related to the origin of the file (Windows)
[23:05] <lifesengine> Can i use my blackberry with ubuntu?
[23:05] <windows7jk> lifesengine ---------------->    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190938
[23:05] <darolu> what's the package name of the random facts/quotes generator?
[23:05] <lifesengine> oh thanks
[23:05] <windows7jk> yw
[23:06] <Typos_King> Principito:    http://tinyurl.com/5e5s72    <--- results
[23:06] <lifesengine> that article is from 2006...
[23:06] <Nitsuga> darolu, fortune?
[23:06] <Typos_King> bombel:    to 'this' issue?   which one?
[23:06] <bombel> Typos_King, the issue is: When I try to extract the file I get an error. Normaly it doesn't happen. I believe this is happening because it was generated in windows - just a guess
[23:06] <Tironn> lifesengine: that's okay
[23:07] <Typos_King> I guess I must be lacking clarivoyant abilities other have
[23:07] <Principito> thanks
[23:07] <darolu> Nitsuga: exactly! thanks! it's fun to use it with cowsay (like mint does)
[23:07] <bombel> Typos_King, here is the issue: http://pastebin.com/b5zRKdva
[23:07] <Typos_King> bombel:    shouldn't matter, .zip is a standard enough format these days, I've made .zip in windows and they work elsewhere
[23:08] <Typos_King> bombel   tried running ark for it?
[23:08] <Nitsuga> darolu, also install fortunes and if you want fortunes-off (may be offensive). Also you can install fortunes-langcode (for example fortunes-es if you speak spanish)
[23:09] <darolu> Nitsuga: you are a true wizzard, how did yo know spanish is my native language? Thanks I'll install them all :P
[23:09] <sludge> Jordan_U  Does unetbootin make the resulting usb flash drive both bootable and persistent?
[23:09] <Principito> spanish is my native language too
[23:10] <Nitsuga> darolu, spanish is my native language, i i just made a aptitude seach ~nfortune and say the fist that appeared (of course the installe done)
[23:10] <Jordan_U> sludge, I don't know
[23:10] <sludge> Jordan_U how do you set "swapiness"
[23:10] <Typos_King> bombel:    what that message means, is that the .zip file is not a stand-alone-archive  rather than a spanned archive, meaning one off many.... like .rar makes say   file01.rar file02.rar  and such, when  you have several 'spanned' .zips like file01.zip file02.zip  ... usually you start with the last one, and the last one 'threads' the rest to unzip the whole set
[23:10] <Nitsuga> Principito, tu nombre te delata :P
[23:10] <Principito> XD
[23:11] <darolu> Nitsuga, Principito: No es curioso cómo estamos aquí en lugar de en #ubuntu-es?
[23:11] <Typos_King> bombel:    the same applies to .rar ones too, you start with the last 'spanned' one
[23:11] <Nitsuga> Typos_King, bombel, no, if the file were spanned it will ask for the next volume
[23:11] <Principito> si vayan a ubuntu es mejor
[23:11] <Nitsuga> !es | darolu
[23:11] <Nitsuga> jeje
[23:12] <Typos_King> bombel:   try opening with 'Ark' to see if it prompts you for the other 'files'
[23:12] <Typos_King> or fileroller... or ... else
[23:13] <gui1> hi
[23:13] <message144> Hi, just installed Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit.. I do not see a /boot/grub/menu.lst file.. Also, when booting and i hit ESC it will not drop me into the grub menu. Any ideas?
[23:13] <darolu> !grub2 > message144
[23:13] <Jordan_U> message144, Hold shift to see the menu
[23:14] <message144> Jordan_U, thanks
[23:14] <Jordan_U> message144, np
[23:14] <bombel> Typos_King, ark does not work either
[23:14] <Typos_King> message144:     grub 2.x   in 9.1  even 1.x doesn't use menu.lst anymore, your 'labels' and bootable partiions are at /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[23:14] <Principito> aircrack
[23:15] <gui1> hi does someone have a good tutorial to install apache2 mod rewrite php5 with pdo mysql on ubuntu karmic?
[23:15] <message144> Typos_King, ok thanks
[23:15] <aathom> node
[23:15] <windows7jk> guil ----------> youtube it
[23:15] <hmw> I would like to learn about security, stuff like encrypting the hard drive, preventing from sensitive data being stored on the swap partition etc. I'd like to get a hint, where to start. Perhaps an URL or special Google search terms?
[23:15] <Typos_King> message144:   and the command 'update-grub'   will 'recreate it' after probing all partitions
[23:15] <Typos_King> but you can also edit it
[23:16] <Nitsuga> gui1, sudo aptitude install apache2 php5 mysql
[23:16] <Lord-Readman> techi people... AMD64 or x86_64 ? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23732/
[23:16] <Nitsuga> gui1, sorry, mysql-server
[23:16] <Typos_King> bombel:    run file on the file, to see what it says -> file ola.zip
[23:16] <jsec> hmw, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[23:17] <gui1> thanks nitsuga, will it have the mod rewrite and pdo?
[23:17] <Nitsuga> gui1, apache2 comes with mod_rewrite (it is one of the package's recommends)
[23:17] <Nitsuga> gui1, if you install mysql-server you may want phpmyadmin, too
[23:17] <hmw> jsec: Thanks. I guess, there is more than just encrypting the hard drive. Any "meta" page on the topic?
[23:18] <NonFish_> for the utility  column  how would I specify a tab character as column delimiter?
[23:18] <git__> why use an encryptedfilesystem when the key is on the filesystem? :)
[23:18] <Principito> is hanna montana linux  a good distro?
[23:18] <windows7jk> hmw --------------------->  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4JYkZxnhJw
[23:18] <Out_Cold> anyone familiar with tftp? I can't load a binary using it..
[23:18] <gui1> nitsuga: no, i don't want phpmyadmin, but i need pdo
[23:18] <CShadowRun> !offtopic | Principito
[23:19] <Principito> sorry
[23:19] <git__> pdo is okie
[23:19] <bombel> Typos_King, this is the output of $file ola.zip -> ola.zip: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract
[23:19] <powertool08> Lord-Readman: I'm not going to vote because I'm too lazy to create an account, but x86_64 is bad because it has both in it, I'd go with Solution 2.
[23:19] <Middleman> lsof /tmp/test_file.txt doesnt create any output, but lsof does how do i see how files are updated
[23:20] <gui1> git_: what do you mean?
[23:20] <Peanut> Hi - is there a way to find out which package created the 'sambashare' entry in /etc/group ?
[23:20] <Typos_King> bombel:     and I assume 'tar -zxvf ola.zip' isn't working either?
[23:21] <VCoolio> Peanut: dpkg-query -S <file>
[23:21] <hmw> Perhaps my question was not clear enough. I know, that hard drives can be encrypted. I would like to know, what else there is to do to make a computer secure besides encryption of the hard drive. Thanks for the links, though.
[23:21] <Nitsuga> gui1, package: php5-mysql
[23:21] <powertool08> hmw: If you're wanting to focus on linux security, selinux is supposed to great for locking down a box, assuming you trust a product from the NSA
[23:21] <VCoolio> Peanut: wait, that's not what you meant; sorry
[23:21] <windows7jk> Hannah Montana Linux is a free operating system based on Kubuntu with a Hannah Montana theme.
[23:21] <Typos_King> Middleman:   afaik, lsof processes running processes, no individual files
[23:22] <hmw> powertool08: i am not sure, if that would be wise LOL
[23:22] <Red_HamsterX> We know, windows7jk. Why are you telling us?
[23:22] <bombel> Typos_King, this is the output of tar: -> http://pastebin.com/AaHy42xk
[23:22] <windows7jk> it was for Precipito
[23:22] <jdeloach> Could someone help me use two graphics card drivers in my xorg.conf?
[23:22] <Peanut> VCoolio: indeed...
[23:22] <gui1> nitsuga: ok thanks alot
[23:22] <powertool08> hmw: I believe it is open source and I'm sure the most paranoid users checked it, so its not obviously backdoored.
[23:22] <Red_HamsterX> bombel, have you tried 'unzip'?
[23:22] <bombel> yes
[23:23] <hmw> powertool08: thanks. already reading the wikipedia article. sounds like a start.
[23:23] <powertool08> hmw: But afaik, it gives the most granular security settings available.
[23:23] <Red_HamsterX> bombel, is it possible that the archive has been corrupted? Do you have a checksum from another computer you could use to test it?
[23:23] <terabyte1> oh my... just joined the UK Loco team and want to help but don't know how - i'm not a programmer
[23:23] <Nitsuga> gui1, no prob
[23:23] <jpds> terabyte1: /join #ubuntu-uk
[23:24] <anzenketh> 1
[23:24] <Typos_King> bombel:   then it might be the way it was 'zipped'   I  know some archivers have some exotic options   like using 64bit blocks or    custom blocks and other compression options which aren't standard
[23:24] <terabyte1> thanks jpds! :D
[23:24] <gui1> nitsuga: do you know where it installs it?
[23:25] <cristian> search ubuntu Ita channel?
[23:25] <jsec> !it | cristian
[23:25] <powertool08> hmw: Also just go through the basics, physical security (unauthorized keyloggers, malicious usb drives, bios passwords) network security (open ports, unnecessary services, patching/updates) Think about every angle and look into its vulnerabilities, then find a way to eliminate it.
[23:25] <cristian> tanks
[23:26] <powertool08> hmw: An apt-cache search/synaptic search for "security" "security tools" or something might bring up a few fun programs to learn.
[23:26] <jdeloach> Anyone here with expierence on using both nVidia and ATI drivers together?
[23:27] <hmw> powertool08: ah, good idea. thx again.
[23:27] <powertool08> np
[23:27] <windows7jk> jdeloach -------------->  edit your xorg.conf after your drivers are installed and pray
[23:27] <DBeets> hmw another useful security tool, for network security at least, is backtrack linux
[23:27] <jdeloach> windows7jk: been praying night and day for two days. not working. i can only get my nvidia OR ati driver to work at a time
[23:28] <jdeloach> windows7jk: do you think i could use a generic simple driver for all 4 monitors?
[23:28] <gui1> I have installed php5-mysql package but i don't know where apache directory is located
[23:28] <Red_HamsterX> jdeloach, a generic driver would probably work, but you know the trade-offs.
[23:28] <ikonia> gui1: what part of apache
[23:28] <BluesKaj-Laptop> jdeloach, yeah, that's the idea...most ppl only use or need one video card at atime
[23:28] <ikonia> gui1: do you want the config or the documentroot ?
[23:29] <Red_HamsterX> gui1, php5 should already have mysqli support built in.
[23:29] <gui1> ikonia: the config
[23:29] <jdeloach> Red_HamsterX: got any ideas for a specific driver or tutorial?
[23:29] <jdeloach> BluesKaj-Laptop: got any specific driver ideas?
[23:29] <ikonia> gui1: /etc/apache2
[23:29] <Red_HamsterX> jdeloach, you can't go too wrong with VESA in terms of compatibility, but the performance may be... lacking.
[23:29] <pedrohoffmann> since banshee appears not support network files.. what do u recomend to play music ?
[23:29] <bombel> Red_HamsterX, Typos_King: This is the source of the file in the web. http://personal.gmagno.webatu.com/content/Graphics%20Programming/FANtastic%20tanks%202D.zip
[23:30] <windows7jk> jdeloach ----> look into Xinerama
[23:30] <DBeets> hmw: http://www.backtrack-linux.org/
[23:30] <gui1> ikonia: thanks
[23:30] <detrix> I need help with sane.  I have an Epson RX-580.  On the supported list, it show RX-500.  Can the RX-500 be used???
[23:30] <jdeloach> windows7jk: been using it, the problem is the getting both sets of monitors to work.
[23:30] <Red_HamsterX> jdeloach, you might be able to just use 'nv' and whatever the free ATI driver happen to be.
[23:30] <hmw> DBeets: thx to you also. I am collecting all hints in a text file for researching. Just remembered chrooting... Securing some apps will also be important, i guess.
[23:30] <Typos_King> fantastic tanks?
[23:30] <Red_HamsterX> (Not the proprietary one)
[23:30] <Typos_King> heh
[23:31] <bombel> Typos_King, I thought the problem could be the name of the file, so I changed it to a more simple one: ola.zip
[23:31] <jdeloach> Red_HamsterX: That's what I have been doing, using "nvidia" and a "lcc something" for ati. i can't get both at the same time however.
[23:31] <Red_HamsterX> bombel, I'm getting an error about it possibly spanning multiple disks/volumes.
[23:32] <Red_HamsterX> jdeloach, 'nv', not 'nvidia'. 'nv' is the generic Free driver that doesn't support 3D acceleration.
[23:32] <windows7jk> jdeloach -----------
[23:32] <windows7jk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[23:32] <hmw> powertool08: DBeets: one of the reasons, why I love Ubuntu is summed up by "1373 people in room" You guys rock!
[23:32] <gui1> ikonia, there is no /etc/apache2->./bin ./conf ./conf/extra... do you know where that is?
[23:33] <Red_HamsterX> bombel, if I had to guess, I'd say the archive itself is corrupted or incomplete. Whoever uploaded it may have lost their connection before the transfer finished.
[23:33] <DBeets> hmw: glad I could help.
[23:33] <Red_HamsterX> bombel, try sending the author an e-mail, requesting the file and asking them to check to make sure the one on their site isn't corrupt,
[23:33] <windows7jk> lol root
[23:34] <Red_HamsterX> bombel, most people willing to publish code and tutorials are happy to get e-mail from users, so don't feel like you're imposing.
[23:34] <ikonia> gui1: the layout is different, apache2.conf is the config file, along with httpd.conf, the binary is in /usr/sbin - and it's called apache2
[23:34] <bombel> Red_HamsterX, I will. That's my brother ;) And the Fantastic tanks was made by us :)
[23:34] <gui1> ikonia: thanks
[23:35] <bombel> ok, Thanks for your helps
[23:36] <neww> so making a virtual host now points my localhost to it ? why!!
[23:36]  * histo loves screen this rocks
[23:36] <Typos_King> bombel:   it opens[sorta] in PeaZip, it shows a blank content, and when tried to Extract, it prompts me for a password
[23:37] <Typos_King> sooooo, something is funky on that file
[23:37] <settecervelli> Ciao a tutti.
[23:37] <windows7jk> have a good day folks
[23:37] <Yowshi> anyone here know what exactly i need to know to enable gparted to resize an ntfs partition?
[23:38] <histo> Yowshi: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:38] <Yowshi> 9.10
[23:38] <Yowshi> the live cd
[23:38] <Yowshi> i am trying to move from a wubi install to a proper one
[23:38] <bombel> Typos_King, I dont understand why it would ask for a password. But It will be solved dor sure, soon.
[23:38] <windows7jk> yowshi ---------->   sudo apt-get ntfsprogs
[23:38] <histo> Yowshi: it should be able to resize ntfs out of box.
[23:39] <histo> Yowshi: if not you need to install ntfsprogs
[23:39] <rob____> \quit
[23:39] <Yowshi> i hope thats on the cd
[23:39] <Nitsuga> Yowshi, it IS possible, but make trouble. You shuld install ubuntu from scratch
[23:39] <Yowshi> i dont have wireless capability in ubuntu
[23:39] <Yowshi> Nitsuga: thats what i am trying to do
[23:39] <dragon> bash autocomplete stopped working for me for several commands like scp and ant after upgrading to karmic. Is this a known issue?
[23:40] <windows7jk> yowshi ----------> best fix for ntfs partition.....convert to ext3/4  lol
[23:40] <Yowshi> Nitsuga: but i jhave to much data to bnackup on dvd's in the windows partition
[23:40] <Yowshi> windows7jk: would that not break the partition?
[23:40] <Nitsuga> Yowshi, ohh ok. Go to system -> administration -> gparted before opening the installer and resize the ntfs partition to your like
[23:40] <windows7jk> yowshi ----- yah probably....i was j/k
[23:40] <Yowshi> Nitsuga: tried that it just wont do it
[23:40] <Nitsuga> Yowshi, leave the space not aloccated and in the installer choose "use the free space"
[23:41] <gaston_> tongas
[23:41] <windows7jk> or just boot up with a live disc that has it, move the files over, then convert the partition
[23:41] <Nitsuga> Yowshi, won't do it? which kind of error throws?
[23:41] <Yowshi> Nitsuga: it wont let me alter the partition
[23:41] <Yowshi> Nitsuga: at all maybe i need to run it from the command line all sudo like
[23:41] <Nitsuga> Yowshi, neves move the start of a partition. Always move the end when resizing
[23:41] <gaston__> fskhfjksfh
[23:42] <Yowshi> Nitsuga: i cant move either side of it
[23:42] <Nitsuga> Yowshi, not necessary, gparted escalates itself
[23:42] <gaston__> hola favian
[23:42] <Nitsuga> Yowshi, ubuntu version?
[23:42] <Yowshi> Nitsuga: 9.10 of course
[23:43] <plitter> hey, i just uploaded some MB to ubuntu one, and was going to look at it from another computer, but i cant see them there, is there a way to force and update on it? i already tried rebooting my computer:P or is it just that i have to wait?
[23:43] <windows7jk> http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=13951
[23:43] <Principito> Gambass
[23:43] <Yowshi> Nitsuga: i have deleted a bunch of shit and am now defraging hoping that the compacting of the data will give gparted what it needs
[23:44] <darolu> Yowshi: have you unmounted your hard drives?
[23:44] <Nitsuga> Yowshi, that's not necessary
[23:44] <Yowshi> darolu: of course i did
[23:44] <Nitsuga> Yowshi, something is mission in gparted
[23:44] <darolu> Yowshi: have you tried with parted (command line)?
[23:44] <Yowshi> darolu: not yet
[23:45] <Yowshi> darolu: i will let this last defrag go through and probably hit it again in the morning
[23:45] <windows7jk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SystemRescueCD
[23:46] <windows7jk> boot up with that
[23:46] <Nitsuga> Yowshi, anyway gparted defrags the part of the disk you are resizing and moves its files to be able to resize the partition..
[23:46] <Yowshi> Nitsuga: weell neeeext timne i try it i will use the command line
[23:47] <Nitsuga> Yowshi, ok, good luck
[23:48] <Dougdoug4> Hello
[23:48] <darolu> !hi
[23:48] <Dougdoug4> i'm looking for an opinion
[23:48] <Dougdoug4> but i just realized i'm not in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:48] <Dougdoug4> so someone come opinionize me there, please
[23:50] <yellowroost924> hello
[23:51] <yellowroost924> how come i "can't  send on channel" in #inkscape? pls help, folks
[23:51] <Typos_King> hehe
[23:51] <^sn00per^> solved my problem in flash player no more choppy videos
[23:52] <Typos_King> yellowroost924:    meaning the channel is on +r or so, is a channel mode in which only 'registered' nicks can send to channel, and sometimes join only too, lame as it may be, but that's the channel ops
[23:53] <Typos_King> ^sn00per^:   downgraded to older version?
[23:53] <Trinity33> hi everyone > cant get sound trough ati hdmi i got laptop msi gt725 build in acl 1200 analog and digital and second ati hdmi use karmic at the moment so no sound from ati hdmi i have installed ati catalyst but no sound got latest alsa drivers etc everything i get is sound trough analog acl 1200 and its vey useless the sound is really bad i tried google it etc there is a lot of info about it tried everything and still
[23:53] <Trinity33>  it doesnt work
[23:53] <Trinity33>  i dont know what else i can do before i used interpid the sound was useless to but latter i reinstalled alsa driver and it worked perfect cant make it work in 9.10
[23:53] <Trinity33>  tried latest one lucid the same no sound
[23:53] <FloodBot4> Trinity33: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:53] <Trinity33>  just analog from acl1200
[23:54] <^sn00per^> nope just disable video acceleration in flash setting by right clicking on it
[23:54] <Trinity33> are u talking to me?
[23:54] <mokhtar> no
[23:54] <^sn00per^> no
[23:54] <mokhtar> hello
[23:54] <Trinity33> so talk to me cant u see i need a help:)?
[23:55] <Jordan_U> !who | ^sn00per^
[23:55] <^sn00per^> sorry Jordan_U
[23:58] <^sn00per^> Typos_King,  i didnt have to downgrade just got the latest and disable video hardware accelration in flash player
[23:59] <Typos_King> hehe, yeah, that's pretty lame on Adobe..... they haven't really greatly improved flash since acquired from Macromedia


[14:40] <psusi> where should a bug involving xorg not being able to run with someone's gpu be assigned to?


[15:47] <frankban> uiteam: I need reviews and QA for https://codereview.appspot.com/194030043 (quickstart/python). Anyone available? Thanks!
[15:47] <bac> frankban: i'll look
[15:48] <frankban> bac: ty
[15:48] <mhilton> frankban: I'll take a look, but I'm no expert
[15:48] <frankban> mhilton: np and thanks, QA would be great!
[15:55] <rick_h_> uiteam call in 6 kanban please
[15:58] <bac> frankban: +1.  no qa yet.  will coordinate with mhilton.
[15:59] <frankban> bac: thanks
[16:12] <bac> mhilton: do you want to QA frankban's or do you want i should?
[16:14] <mhilton> bac: If you can that'd be great. I'm not really sure how to use quickstart
[16:15] <bac> mhilton: ok.
[20:45] <rick_h_> mbruzek: ping a ling any word on the feedback from frankban here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-gui/+bug/1402061
[20:45] <mup> Bug #1402061: The juju-gui charm fails automated testing <audit> <auto-test> <juju-gui:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1402061>
[20:45] <rick_h_> mbruzek: we've got a patch in and will be doing a gui release this week or monday at the latest and want to make sure we get on the testing good side
[20:45] <mbruzek> rick_h_: looking
[20:45] <rick_h_> mbruzek: no rush, just a poke on it so we can make sure the next release is all happy happy
[20:47] <mbruzek> tvansteenburgh: franban had some feedback for bundletester on comment #4 of this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-gui/+bug/1402061  Could you comment on that?
[20:47] <mup> Bug #1402061: The juju-gui charm fails automated testing <audit> <auto-test> <juju-gui:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1402061>
[20:50] <mbruzek> tvansteenburgh: specifically about updating the Tornado code on the ci machine
[20:52] <rick_h_> mbruzek: well the tornado code we updated in our server
[20:52] <rick_h_> mbruzek: at least we did it there, not sure if bundletester isusing it as well? /me goes to reread
[20:52] <tvansteenburgh> no, that should do it
[20:53] <rick_h_> mbruzek: yea, so we landed an update to tornado for #1
[20:53] <mbruzek> rick_h_: OK
[20:53] <rick_h_> that'll be in the release coming up
[20:53] <rick_h_> so it's 2-5 that I think we're looking for more feedback/discussion on
[20:54] <tvansteenburgh> i'll comment on those soonish
[20:54] <rick_h_> tvansteenburgh: ty much
[22:02] <huwshimi> Morning


[15:59]  * slangasek waves
[15:59] <mvo> hi
[16:00] <sil2100> o/
[16:00] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Dec 11 16:00:11 2014 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:00] <robru> hola
[16:01] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[16:02] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson caribou infinity mvo sil2100 robru)
[16:02] <slangasek> slangasek mvo doko sil2100 caribou stgraber bdmurray robru jodh barry cjwatson infinity
[16:02] <slangasek>  * snappy cloud launch
[16:02] <slangasek>   * no longer embargoed, so now weekly reports may be more useful for a while ;)
[16:02] <slangasek>   * marvelous work by everyone involved, the new image is being well-received
[16:02] <slangasek>   * questions? see #snappy
[16:02] <slangasek>  * working through HR bits related to the various backfill roles
[16:02] <slangasek>  * my last day of work for the year is Dec 16 (next Tuesday), grab me sooner rather than later if you need anything :)
[16:02] <slangasek> (done)
[16:02] <slangasek> mvo:
[16:02] <mvo> last week: work on project snappy, virtual sprint
[16:02] <mvo> next week: work on project snappy
[16:02] <mvo> (done)
[16:03] <doko> - still working on the ISL 0.14 transition
[16:03] <doko> - fixing GCC cross builds with new dpkg
[16:03] <doko> - fixing powerpc and ARM cross builds
[16:03] <doko> - fix building GCC 4.7
[16:03] <doko> - python 2.7.9 release
[16:03] <doko> - trying to get GCC trunk to build on all archs for a first test rebuild
[16:03] <doko> (done)
[16:03] <sil2100> - Landing team work, silos coordination, preparing landing e-mails
[16:03] <sil2100> - Preparing and announcing the Landing Classes
[16:03] <sil2100> - Transition upower to 0.99 in ubuntu-rtm
[16:03] <sil2100>   * Land the modified touch bits: ubuntu-system-settings and powerd
[16:03] <sil2100>   * Deal with the transition to make proposed migration
[16:03] <sil2100>   * Rebuild and sync all required desktop packages
[16:03] <sil2100> - Ubuntu Engineering Live!
[16:03] <sil2100> - RTM status meetings
[16:03] <sil2100> - Some fix attempts for CI Train
[16:03] <sil2100> - Merge reviews of appmenu-qt5 branches
[16:03] <sil2100> - Landing coordination
[16:04] <sil2100> - Many smaller tasks here and there
[16:04] <sil2100> (done)
[16:04] <slangasek> hmm, dpkg broke gcc cross-builds?
[16:05] <slangasek> caribou: hi, you're just in time :)
[16:05] <caribou> well, not much to talk about aside from regular bugfix
[16:05] <caribou> looking for sponsors, testing snappy, the usual
[16:05] <caribou> (done)
[16:06] <slangasek> :)
[16:06] <slangasek> stgraber:
[16:06] <stgraber> snappy, lxd, sprint
[16:06] <stgraber> (done)
[16:06] <sil2100> ;)
[16:06] <caribou> stgraber: wow you beat me!
[16:06] <stgraber> caribou: :)
[16:06] <sil2100> One liner!
[16:06] <bdmurray> review of retrace failures due to missing ddebs
[16:06] <bdmurray> uploaded packages to get ddebs for all architectures
[16:06] <bdmurray> modified daisy retracer to write to BucketRetraceFailureReasons CF
[16:06] <bdmurray> updated oops-repository branch and created new oops-repository package
[16:06] <bdmurray> pushed daisy/retracer.py changes to use BucketRetraceFailureReason CF
[16:06] <bdmurray> updated diasy-retracer charm to run schema.py from oops-repository
[16:06] <bdmurray> worked with thedac to verify configuration / status of retracers in scaling stack
[16:06] <bdmurray> commited a fix for a traceback with retracers looking up data in the BucketRetraceFailureReason CF
[16:07] <bdmurray> committed changes to daisy/retracer.py to better handle being killed by retracers-cache-restart
[16:07] <bdmurray> modifications to errors code to display retrace failure reason for a bucket
[16:07] <bdmurray> pushed errors r509 which provides specific info about why a retrace failed
[16:07] <bdmurray> merged dames's changes to daisy-retracer charm to use a cache-debs configuration option
[16:07] <bdmurray> fixed DevelReleaseAnnouncement in ubuntu-release-upgrader for Vivid
[16:07] <bdmurray> confirmed that apport_crashes in DistUpgradeViewGtk3 set DistroRelease to 15.04
[16:07] <stgraber> well, internet is so sluggish here that typing anything more just wasn't really an option :)
[16:07] <bdmurray> modified DistUpgradeViewText in u-r-u to call apport_crash
[16:07] <bdmurray> reported ubuntu-release-upgrader bug LP: #1399455 regarding DistUpgradeViewGtk3
[16:07] <bdmurray> reported ubuntu-release-upgrader bug LP: #1399836 re RELEASE_UPRADER_NO_APPORT
[16:07] <bdmurray> SRU verification of bug LP: #1313165
[16:07] <bdmurray> submitted check-contents-server-age merge proposal for apport (partial fix of LP: #1370230)
[16:07] <bdmurray> commited a fix to bzr for whoopsie bug LP: #1392412
[16:07] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[16:07] <robru> * emergency CI Train repairs after creds leak
[16:07] <robru> * ongoing work to update charm / mojo spec for deploying citrain
[16:07] <robru>   - looks like we're close to having working production deployments, with MP submitted to IS for review
[16:07] <robru>   - still lots of work needed to make a functional staging deployment for testing branches before pushing them to production.
[16:07] <robru> * lots of silos assign & published for ongoing landings.
[16:07] <robru> (done)
[16:08] <barry> no jodh today i think?
[16:08] <barry> snappy: stuff.  LP: #1399687.  LP: #1400605.  LP: #1400308
[16:08] <barry> system-image: LP: #1373467 (resurrecting branch)
[16:08] <barry> other: claws-mail 3.11.1-3ubuntu1
[16:08] <barry> --done--
[16:09] <slangasek> bdmurray: ... "UPRADER", not "UPGRADER"?
[16:09] <slangasek> (maybe just a cut'n'paste of the misspelling in the bug title?)
[16:10]  * doko is leaving now. will read scrollback tonight when I'm back
[16:10] <cjwatson> hi, sorry I'm late, had to pick up a Christmas present, somewhat miscalculated its size relative to my bike panniers and had to walk most of the way home :-/
[16:11] <bdmurray> slangasek: that's not my typo
[16:11] <slangasek> bdmurray: the typo is in the code?
[16:11] <bdmurray> slangasek: indeed
[16:11] <mvo> bdmurray: *cough*
[16:11] <slangasek> cjwatson: hi, your turn :)
[16:11]  * mvo hopes it was a contributed patch
[16:12] <slangasek> DARTH_VADER_NO_APPORT=1
[16:12] <cjwatson> this week I merged latest Debian code into proposed-migration, since an importer failure at one point had meant that I hadn't noticed upstream commits for a year or so - should now be less pathologically slow in some edge cases and has clearer output for some things, there's also update_excuses.yaml in case anyone wants to build something on that
[16:12] <cjwatson> made use of the new clearer output for old vs. missing builds to clear up some old cruft
[16:12] <mvo> slangasek:   https://launchpad.net/~blatant-and-awkward
[16:12] <cjwatson> chipped in on the odd snappy discussion where useful
[16:13] <slangasek> mvo: hah
[16:13] <cjwatson> helped with webops' debugging of why the Canonical mumble server is down (James W eventually beat me to finding the cause - lazr.restfulclient bug in lucid)
[16:14] <cjwatson> whole bunch of merges and bits and pieces of knowledge transfer
[16:14] <cjwatson> ..
[16:14] <slangasek> and no infinity this morning
[16:14] <cjwatson> oh yeah and I probably helped out with the CI Train repairs
[16:14] <slangasek> nothing like doing repairs on the train live while it's going through the tunnel
[16:15] <slangasek> (watch your head)
[16:15] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[16:15] <slangasek> anything else?
[16:15] <sil2100> I'll take a holiday tomorrow o/
[16:15] <slangasek> there are quite a few of those coming up
[16:15] <bdmurray> are those being given away?
[16:16] <cjwatson> yeah, I'm on holiday Fri, Mon, Tue AM
[16:16] <slangasek> does someone else want to volunteer to run the meeting next week?
[16:17]  * mvo would run it but maybe on vac then already
[16:18] <slangasek> well, I guess whoever's here next Thursday can figure it out amongst themselves :)
[16:18] <slangasek> anything else besides EOY vacations?
[16:19] <slangasek> stgraber sending is pics of sunny capetown with people wearing santa hats?
[16:19] <slangasek> s/is/us/
[16:19] <mvo> haha
[16:19] <stgraber> slangasek: sorry, not enough bandwidth to upload my photos just yet :)
[16:20] <stgraber> I do have a christmas tree next to me though
[16:20] <slangasek> :-)
[16:20] <slangasek> ok
[16:20] <slangasek> short meeting then... everybody's busy snapping up snappy
[16:20] <slangasek> I'll let you get back to it
[16:20] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[16:20] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Dec 11 16:20:38 2014 UTC.
[16:20] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-12-11-16.00.moin.txt
[16:20] <caribou> thanks slangasek
[16:20] <barry> thanks1
[16:20] <slangasek> thanks!
[16:20] <mvo> thanks
[16:21] <sil2100> THanks!