[05:03] <hopeng> how to turn on the 5.1 speakers using xmms ?
[05:03] <Karhuton> carthik, and restart evolution so that it finds it (if it doesn't check for it during runtime)
[05:03] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: ugh.
[05:04] <carthik> Karhuton, how do I make sure the daemon is running at bootup?
[05:04] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: what does "one laptop xp one desktop xp one linux box ubuntu, is connect through." mean?
[05:04] <Digital_Warrior0> sorry i knew it was not going to be fun
[05:04] <Digital_Warrior0> ok they are all on wireless
[05:04] <Digital_Warrior0> the other pc will not take a wireless card.
[05:04] <hardw1re> ooooh while im here... can someone tell me, how to stop ubuntu from recognising the mic on my webcam as a soundcard and defaulting the system to using that?
[05:04] <dabar> and they are all able to connecti to the Internet?
[05:04] <Digital_Warrior0> something about the mb will not let it post. i have tried several diff cards
[05:04] <Digital_Warrior0> yes
[05:05] <Karhuton> carthik, it is by default. But I don't know if it is running after install
[05:05] <Sly> hardwlre very funny problem im sure =\
[05:05] <Digital_Warrior0> i am on the laptop right now
[05:05] <kemik> awh.. colorcoded my shellprompts :)
[05:05] <dabar> ok, and you want the linux to send an IP address to the only PC that is not yet connected to your network through a wire?
[05:05] <kemik> no more confusion on which box im using
[05:06] <dabar> Instead of the router.
[05:06] <Digital_Warrior0> yes
[05:06] <Digital_Warrior0> no
[05:06] <Digital_Warrior0> no
[05:06] <hardw1re> well it kinda sux, cause i want to try and get my webcam working, but if i leave it plugged in, then ubuntu sets it as the default sound device, and not my actual soundcard, which stops all sound stuff from working :(
[05:06] <Digital_Warrior0> i want to be able to access that other machine ie play a mp3 on it. see in network nebiorhood.
[05:06] <Digital_Warrior0> to ping it.
[05:06] <dabar> ok, one thing just to make clear first.
[05:07] <Sly> i wish i could help :(
[05:07] <Digital_Warrior0> i can get the 2000 box the wired one to see the eth0 and ra0 in the linux box but that is it
[05:07] <dabar> the three computers are online, and everything is fine with them, and so on, right?
[05:07] <Digital_Warrior0> yes
[05:07] <hardw1re> samba support needed on windows innit?
[05:07] <dabar> so we can disregard the two xp boxes from now on, since they are not included in the part of the story we are discussing?
[05:07] <Karhuton> carthik, atleast even this new version of Evolution seems to "learn" from manually marked junk
[05:08] <Digital_Warrior0> ok
[05:08] <jaqkar> can anyone help me to setup a gateway and transparent proxy?
[05:08] <stizoner> if you have a router why arent u just runing everything through that?
[05:08] <dabar> and the router is not important really, so we could draw something like....
[05:08] <dabar> 2000----Ubuntu-----Internet?
[05:08] <Digital_Warrior0> yes all on the same privit network
[05:09] <Digital_Warrior0> ie 192.168.0.x
[05:09] <dabar> and the part from 2000 to Ubuntu works, cause you can ping back and forth between those two machines?
[05:09] <hmrocha> pitti, i rebooted the machine and it worked fine this time
[05:09] <paueas> how can i get sound juicer to make me mp3 files and allow me to set the bitrate?
[05:09] <pitti> hmrocha: with the breezy live?
[05:09] <Digital_Warrior0> yes
[05:09] <jaqkar> !breezy
[05:09] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[05:10] <jaqkar> :)
[05:10] <dabar> Ok, I think all you need is two packages, Digital_Warrior0. install dnsmasq, and ipmasq. We may need a few more things from there, but maybe not even.
[05:11] <dabar> on the ubuntu, off course.
[05:11] <Digital_Warrior0> yes
[05:11] <Digital_Warrior0> are they on the cd
[05:11] <dabar> I do not know, sorry.
[05:11] <Digital_Warrior0> ok
[05:11] <hardw1re> hmm im going to reboot
[05:11] <Digital_Warrior0> see the linux box can not be connect to the 2000 and the internet at the same time.
[05:11] <dabar> :)
[05:11] <dabar> he rebooted
[05:11] <Digital_Warrior0> it is like it does not know what to do
[05:12] <dabar> Well set that up next.
[05:12] <jaqkar> dabar: can you help me with a gateway/proxy setup im trying?
[05:12] <dabar> I do not know.
[05:13] <Scrawny1> hi all I'm back, anyway does anyone knowo of a "now playing" script for X-Chat?
[05:13] <dabar> they are not on the CD, Digital_Warrior0, can you access the Internet?
[05:13] <dabar> Oh, ya, you can.
[05:14] <dabar> Both packages are in Universe.
[05:14] <stizoner> visit xchat site Scrawny1 i found one there
[05:14] <Digital_Warrior0> i apprecate the help
[05:14] <dabar> sure.
[05:14] <dabar> sure you do...
[05:14] <dabar> heh
[05:14] <setite> what a real good pft view
[05:14] <Digital_Warrior0> in one min i will be able to
[05:14] <Scrawny1> sweet thank-you :)
[05:14] <setite> one that i can view two pages at once.. like in acrobat
[05:14] <Digital_Warrior0> have to reset all the networking and i do that be rebooting
[05:14] <Digital_Warrior0> it is still comming up
[05:14] <setite> this xpdf wont do that... the page change is odd
[05:14] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: are you rebooting linux?
[05:15] <Digital_Warrior0> yes have to
[05:15] <dabar> to change the network settings for eth0?
[05:15] <Digital_Warrior0> otherwise the wireless will not reconnect to the inter
[05:15] <Digital_Warrior0> no internet is on ra0
[05:15] <orutherfurd> could anyone give me a pointer on how to configure multiple monitor support?  I've got a laptop plugged into a docking station, w/an external monitor.
[05:15] <Digital_Warrior0> other pc is on eth0
[05:15] <orutherfurd> I was hoping it would just work, but that doesn't seem to be the case ;-)
[05:15] <dabar> ok, are you sure about this? tried sudo ifdown ra0, then sudo ifup ra0?
[05:15] <dabar> That should avoid you the reboot.
[05:16] <Digital_Warrior0> yep
[05:16] <Digital_Warrior0> for some reason it will not work
[05:16] <dabar> I think also the fact that you can not connect both at the same time is due to your /etc/network/interfaces eth0 entry having a gateway line.
[05:16] <dabar> you will paste that file after, if you want.
[05:17] <Digital_Warrior0> i will look at that
[05:17] <dieman> wow
[05:17] <dieman> that mirror in poland has some good bandiwdth
[05:17] <kemik> what about disabling eth0, bring down/up ra0 ? that wont let you connect either?
[05:17] <dieman> and they actually update their mirror, unlike the tds.net one, which seems out of date again
[05:17] <dieman> mmmm
[05:17] <dabar> orutherfurd: what graphics card?
[05:17] <dieman> 50megabits/sec from the mirror :)
[05:18] <kemik> dieman:  .pl is usually very poor.. guess you're just lucku
[05:18] <kemik> y
[05:18] <dieman> kemik: i2 bandwidth :)
[05:18] <dieman> kemik: from minneapolis, mn to the ftp.task.gda.pl is 50mbps
[05:18] <dieman> (usa)
[05:18] <dabar> kemik: ya, good idea, I mean, there is really nothing that you can not stop/start without rebooting...
[05:18] <ndlovu> can anyone tell me how to uninstall java? I think my version is a little buggy and I want to upgrade it
[05:18] <chicken_> hi every one
[05:18] <Digital_Warrior0> ok i am installin dnsmasq and ipmasq now
[05:19] <dabar> ndlovu: this will very much depend on how you installed it, so tell us how you had done that.
[05:19] <kemik> dieman:  yea i know my geography ;) heh... and i get poor speeds from .pl to .se .. go figure ;)
[05:19] <chicken_> my hard disk just lost all of it's data for some reason :-/
[05:19] <LilBlackDemon> ndlovu, if you used apt-get to install it,use synaptic and you should be able to uninstall the .deb java packages
[05:19] <hmrocha> pitti, no, with hoary, that was previously not working
[05:19] <Digital_Warrior0> ok where do i find ipmasq and dnsmasq
[05:19] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: did you get ubotu's message about pasting? when you can paste that /etc/network/interfaces file.
[05:19] <kemik> dieman:  maybe they're using QoS to american traffic so Bush won't invade.. heh :)
[05:19] <orutherfurd> dabar, Mobility Radeon 9600 M10 (according to lspci)
[05:19] <Digital_Warrior0> no
[05:19] <kemik> !pastebin
[05:19] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:20] <ndlovu> dabar: that's a little tricky. I _think_ I followed the ubuntuguide instructions, but I was tweaking quite a bit trying to get FreeMind to work.
[05:20] <kemik> Digital_Warrior0:
[05:20] <dieman> kemik: heh
[05:20] <kemik> ^ that link
[05:20] <chicken_> can some one tell me how i get X installed i got no Gnome at all
[05:20] <ndlovu> will try using synaptic and see what happens
[05:20] <dieman> kemik: its just because im on .edu networks, its all seperate from the internet links
[05:20] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0:  Universe is where they are. register your nick, /msg nickserv help register, and then /msg ubotu info package name, to find out about a package.
[05:20] <kemik> chicken_:  apt-get install "windowmanger", apt-get install xserver-xorg
[05:21] <dieman> kemik: haha
[05:21] <mindamp> can i allow remote samba?
[05:21] <Digital_Warrior0> got in one min
[05:21] <dieman> kemik: the link from here to there goes via .se
[05:21] <dabar> ndlovu: you can likely just erase the files from where they are, something like /usr/java...
[05:21] <mindamp> i don't care about the security aspect...
[05:21] <orutherfurd> dabar, I should have been more specific earlier -- both monitors are working, but I see the same thing vs a larger desktop split across them
[05:21] <mindamp> i know under slackware it was defaulted for remote
[05:21] <dieman> kemik: minneapolis -> chicago -> nyc -> uk (geant) -> se -> pl
[05:21] <mindamp> anyone have experience with this?
[05:21] <hopeng> what is virtual desktop's shortcut ?
[05:21] <kemik> *shwr*
[05:22] <dabar> orutherfurd: not really for me, I dont know anything about it. I know it is mentioned on the ati wiki, at wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHOWTO/ati or so.
[05:22] <rapha> Hi all
[05:22] <rapha> Again :)
[05:22] <dabar> hopeng: where did you get this?
[05:22] <orutherfurd> dabar, thanks
[05:22] <rapha> Is there any console mail program that can do POP3 without a too difficult configuration=?
[05:23] <umboto> how do i change the ubuntu spash?
[05:23] <umboto> splash*
[05:23] <pitti> hmrocha: very odd - and you didn't change anything, like disabling dma, or not putting a CD-ROM into the drive?
[05:23] <Seveas> umboto: To change the Ubuntu splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[05:23] <dabar> umboto: more info.
[05:23] <umboto> okie
[05:23] <umboto> thanks
[05:23] <dabar> Seveas: that for the login splash?
[05:23] <dabar> for gnome.
[05:23] <umboto> yea
[05:23] <umboto> wherr the hell is gconfig
[05:23] <hmrocha> pitti, no, just rebooted
[05:23] <ndlovu> dabar: usr/java has jre 1.5.0, but java -version says java version "1.4.2-01";Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-01);Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-01, mixed mode)
[05:23] <umboto> lemme find it
[05:23] <dabar> ok, ya then that will work.
[05:24] <dabar> ndlovu: so you want the tiger Java, eh? :)...
[05:24] <pitti> hmrocha: I hate these heisenbugs... it got afraid of you wanting to debug it :-)
[05:24] <chicken_> Death to windows !!
[05:24] <hmrocha> pitti, :)
[05:24] <hmrocha> chicken_, death why?
[05:25] <chicken_> i don't like windows
[05:25] <chicken_> i hate windows
[05:25] <hmrocha> chicken_, and you want to kill all the people you hate too?
[05:25] <chicken_> errrm
[05:25] <dabar> ndlovu: you have a PPC by any chancve?
[05:25] <hmrocha> chicken_, you shouldn't kill something just because you hate it
[05:25] <sproingie> hm.  whenever i hear a windows person talk about TCO, i'm going to talk about TCP
[05:25] <umboto> im blind Seveas where is gconfig editor located?
[05:25] <dabar> he said death to it, not I will kill.
[05:25] <sproingie> Total Cost of Pwn3rsh1p
[05:25] <ndlovu> dabar :) any java will do at this stage, as long as it works... no ppc, using IBM thinkpad
[05:25] <chicken_> i am sure many people hate windows
[05:25] <hmrocha> chicken_, 90% of the world don't hate it
[05:25] <dabar> In Apps>System Tools, umboto.
[05:26] <umboto> thanks
[05:26] <chicken_> because 90% of the world are n00bs
[05:26] <umboto> ahh ok foudn it
[05:26] <umboto> thanks
[05:26] <hmrocha> chicken_, people say they hate windows because they want to *be* geeks
[05:26] <ndlovu> dabar: java is working, it just seems slower than on other machines, so I think it may be "confused"
[05:26] <chicken_> heh :P
[05:27] <sproingie> i only really hate windows when dealing with its slow filesystem ops
[05:27] <hmrocha> chicken_, windows is lame, linux is 1337
[05:27] <WhyvasMct> my wg511 (prismGT) card locks up on me after downloading a little bit, both lights go solid and the card is reset
[05:27] <dabar> ndlovu: erase that folder...install the java through the current Ubuntu way, using this web site: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java. Learn to love the wiki.
[05:27] <WhyvasMct> any ideas????
[05:27] <hmrocha> chicken_, when you stop hating windows and just looking at it as another piece of software that you should avoid, you're in another level
[05:27] <jbull> WhyvasMct:  does dmesg say anything useful?
[05:28] <WhyvasMct> yeah just a sec
[05:28] <chicken_> i always avoid it
[05:28] <hmrocha> chicken_, gamers don't
[05:28] <sproingie> process start overhead is also pretty abominable on windows ... makes shell scripting pretty tough
[05:28] <hmrocha> chicken_, web designers don't
[05:28] <hmrocha> chicken_, almost all of the world don't
[05:28] <sproingie> hmrocha: i don't know any web designers that like windows servers.  maybe windows to run dreamweaver
[05:29] <dabar> hmrocha: almost all of the world is lameos as well, you know that right? a very low margin of people have conciousness...
[05:29] <ndlovu> dabar: the wiki is already my friend and loving companion. the problem is that I didn't install it that way, and I'm confused because java -version says I have 1.4.2, but the java directory says 1.5.0...
[05:29] <hmrocha> sproingie, all the designers i know, don't know that a server is, they just use dreamweaver
[05:29] <sproingie> dabar: how much do you know about horses
[05:29] <hmrocha> sproingie, i'm talking about designers not web developers
[05:29] <dabar> nothing.
[05:29] <sproingie> dabar: shall i pronounce you a lame dweeb then?
[05:29] <aru> sproingie: could you code an OS better than windows?
[05:30] <chicken_> most people use it because bill gates pays off most of the game designers and software designes so his shitty OS has a lot of games and software so people use it
[05:30] <dabar> remove everything referencing java on your computer, and install the wiki way, is best I can tell you, ndlovu, it is bound to work great.
[05:30] <sproingie> dabar: how about combustion engine tuning?  how about metallurgy?  how about architecture, optics, medicine, law ...
[05:30] <ndlovu> thanks dabar, will see how it goes.
[05:30] <dabar> are you having a pont, sproingie?
[05:30] <hmrocha> dabar, almost all persons that use computers around the world, don't understand anything about them
[05:30] <setite> hey i cant dcc on konversation.. wtf
[05:30] <dabar> do yo uhave a pioint, rather.
[05:31] <chicken_> more people should use Linux and make things for it !
[05:31] <dabar> chicken_: we all dont like window, there is not much needed to tell us about it.
[05:31] <Digital_Warrior0> debar it told me about it but not where to get it
[05:31] <sproingie> dabar: i only have a point if you can see it
[05:31] <dabar> Or, prefer linux, no need to diss windows here, is my poiint.
[05:31] <hmrocha> dabar, people connected to computer science is really a small percentage compared to "normal" users
[05:31] <dabar> I can see some point that was not really related to what I was saying.
[05:31] <dabar> hmrocha: agreed.
[05:31] <aru> dabar: good point
[05:32] <chicken_> how do i use startx or where is it ?
[05:32] <dabar> It says section Universe. You need to add universe to your repositories, Digital_Warrior0.
[05:32] <Seveas> windows-bashing is a good reason to get kicked :)
[05:32] <dabar> DO you know about the ubuntu components, Digital_Warrior0?
[05:32] <sproingie> computer literacy of consumer OS's is to computer science what reading romance novels is to studying linguistics
[05:32] <Digital_Warrior0> not really
[05:32] <WhyvasMct> here's the output of dmesg http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/pevPBb96.html
[05:32] <Sly> chicken you said everything u wanted to know about how to start x
[05:32] <dech> hmm my apt-get freezes at Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[05:32] <WhyvasMct> as soon as I start downloading it dies
[05:33] <chicken_> ??
[05:33] <WhyvasMct> sometimes it downloads 200K, sometimes it downloads 4-5 megs
[05:33] <aru> sproingie: can you just admit that windows isn't for you and let it go?
[05:33] <dech> all the ips are apparently <IP_ADDRESS> :P so something wrong heh
[05:33] <WhyvasMct> but it always locks up
[05:33] <hmrocha> Seveas, i don't use windows at home, but all the users at my college are stored in AD, so i have to live with windows
[05:33] <seife> hi
[05:33] <WhyvasMct> I tried diffrent firmwares and i even went out and got a diffrent card
[05:33] <seife> help
[05:33] <sproingie> aru: i'm amused at the people who think they're somehow elite because they know how to shell script on linux
[05:33] <WhyvasMct> same crap every time
[05:33] <hmrocha> Seveas, i just talked about windows because i get tired of people saying that they hate windows, but in the end, they install windows to play some game
[05:33] <seife> i am totally newb in linux
[05:33] <seife> never used it
[05:33] <tristanmike> hi
[05:33] <dabar> you can read if you want, its only one page. http://ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components . and also, you can read about adding repositories here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 . Digital_Warrior0
[05:33] <aru> sproingie: maybe you should check out #linux
[05:34] <stizoner> well problem with linux is you have programers making choices on human interaction with computers and user interface, when they have no qualifications 2 do so, its more of a scientific study, not a programing skill
[05:34] <Seveas> hmrocha, I talked to no one in particular
[05:34] <Seveas> just a general announcement
[05:34] <seife> i am going to install it into an separated HD, it has windows 98 on it. what u guys recommend me to do in general
[05:34] <Sly> at my college my tutor said he couldnt use linux because he needs word/excel..... i said open office he wasnt impressed... i went in following day after installing word/excel with crossover office, he didnt have a word to say =\
[05:34] <chicken_> i get an error when i run X
[05:34] <Sly> he now seems to ignore me
[05:34] <dabar> dech: if you did not get an answer yet, remove the us from the front of the sources.list
[05:34] <Sly> to now*
[05:34] <Digital_Warrior0> thanks
[05:34] <dabar> just have with no country seleted.
[05:34] <dabar> welcome, tell me when you are again stuck...
[05:34] <jbull> WhyvasMct: your're running hoary, yes?
[05:34] <Digital_Warrior0> dabar talk to digital_linux now i have x running on the linux box
[05:34] <WhyvasMct> yeah
[05:35] <WhyvasMct> it was doing the same thing in fedora core 4
[05:35] <dabar> kk.
[05:35] <tristanmike> does "Mark for Complete Removal" in Synaptic remove Dependencies Files too??
[05:35] <seife> HELP?
[05:35] <dabar> seife: sorry, was doing something else.
[05:35] <Ng> tristanmike: no
[05:35] <Ng> tristanmike: that just completely removes that package
[05:35] <dabar> give us some time...
[05:35] <Seveas> tristanmike, no
[05:35] <tristanmike> Ng, Merci Beaucoup
[05:35] <dabar> seife: it is a slower computer right?
[05:35] <Ng> tristanmike: normally removing a package will leave configuration files behind, compelte removal kills them too
[05:35] <Seveas> the next versions will remove unneeded dependencies
[05:35] <seife> no
[05:36] <tristanmike> Seveas, Merci Beaucoup as well
[05:36] <seife> 1.8ghz, ati7500, 512dimm
[05:36] <Ng> seife: that's a good plan
[05:36] <Ng> err
[05:36] <Ng> Seveas rather
[05:36] <sproingie> raskin used HCI studies to come out with the canon cat ...which put special keys in a place that interfered with the space bar
[05:36] <sproingie> hello hci, goodbye ergonomics
[05:36] <Seveas> tristanmike, debfoster is a good way to clean out unneeded dependencies :)
[05:36] <jbull> WhyvasMct:  what firmware are you running right now/have you tried in the past?
[05:36] <tristanmike> Ng, I just tried a program I'm not interested in so I just wann get rid of it
[05:36] <tristanmike> Seveas, run from the terminal??
[05:36] <WhyvasMct> i am running <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:36] <tristanmike> Seveas, or is that a package?
[05:37] <Seveas> it's a package
[05:37] <dabar> seife: you will be asked whether you want to overwrite everything on the disk, so remember not to. Also, you will be asked whether you want to install grub onto MBR, the main boot record, so choose yes.
[05:37] <WhyvasMct> i tried <IP_ADDRESS> i think
[05:37] <Seveas> (and that package provides the debfoster command :)
[05:37] <tristanmike> Seveas, yeah, just looked, thanx uber-much
[05:37] <WhyvasMct> <IP_ADDRESS> used to work in debian
[05:37] <WhyvasMct> and in windows
[05:37] <tristanmike> You too Ng, thanx
[05:37] <WhyvasMct> so i am guessing it may be something to do with the router??
[05:37] <Ng> tristanmike: :)
[05:37] <dabar> Other than that, good luck, and dont follow every advice you see everywhere. Read the wiki, wiki.ubuntu.com, and ubuntuforums.org for help. seife
[05:38] <WhyvasMct> how would i set the card into B mode only?
[05:38] <jbull> WhyvasMct:  afraid i won't be much help with that--i have the same card, running in breezy with no problems
[05:38] <WhyvasMct> crud
[05:38] <WhyvasMct> breezy is 5.10 ?
[05:38] <Seveas> yes
[05:38] <Seveas> !breezy
[05:38] <ubotu> breezy is, like, totally, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[05:39] <WhyvasMct> did you have it working in 5.4 ??
[05:39] <dabar> as well, register your nick for freenode, /msg nickserv help register as your message to the channel will tell you how to do that. seife. and then you can talk in private with our knowledgeable bot, ubotu, as so, /msg ubotu mp3 and he tells you how to install mp3 support./
[05:39] <jaqkar> can someone please  help me with a gateway/proxy setup im trying?
[05:39] <stizoner> they should recomend installing grub on a floppy for windows users as default action
[05:39] <dabar> jaqkar: please msg ubotu ask.
[05:39] <chicken_> ubuntu crashed :(
[05:39] <jbull> WhyvasMct:  didn't have the card then, so i don't know..
[05:40] <dabar> stizoner: really?
[05:40] <dabar> tell us moer.
[05:40] <WhyvasMct> ugh
[05:40] <WhyvasMct> i have a feeling it's the router....
[05:40] <token> is anyone related with wifi???
[05:40] <stizoner> because if they want to remove ubuntu there stuck with grub on mbr
[05:40] <kemik> token:  all my relatives are human. sorry
[05:40] <kemik> ;)
[05:41] <Seveas> stizoner, fixmbr from a windows bootdisk fixes that
[05:41] <token> ok
[05:41] <stizoner> and have to figure out how 2 remove it
[05:41] <dabar> aha. I get that part. SO that will work if you have the floppy in the hard drive? boots from that?
[05:41] <stizoner> yeah i know that, but its more work, its much easyier to pop a floppy in and take it out
[05:41] <token> have a problem ... cause i managed to set up inet for wifi in ubuntu ... but not for windows
[05:41] <dabar> stizoner: very cool piece of information. How do you specify this at install? fairly intuitively?
[05:42] <token> anyone using wifi here???
[05:42] <jaqkar> dabar: great thx, now im being asked "is it larger than a breadbox?"
[05:42] <dabar> !ask
[05:42] <dabar> see he dont listen to me in the channel.
[05:42] <kemik> !ask
[05:42] <stizoner> im no programer
[05:43] <dabar> ok. is that an answer to my question?
[05:43] <giard> that list for breezy makes it seem there isn't that much new
[05:43] <stizoner> dont know, just make /dev/fd0 the first recomended choice
[05:43] <WhyvasMct> !breezy
[05:43] <ubotu> it has been said that breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[05:43] <dabar> aha. ok.
[05:43] <WhyvasMct> is there a fast download link for breezy?
[05:43] <token> ok so i have an AP and this is directly connected to my pc and the AP is also connected to a hotspot ..... everything works well in ubuntu but not at all in windows
[05:43] <token> the AP has linux as OS
[05:43] <kemik> giard:  but i think there'll be a few more things due to the updates in gnome
[05:44] <jaqkar> pfft
[05:44] <hussam> how do I get floppy drives to mount in ubuntu. when I try to mount it, it says: "could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified"
[05:44] <jaqkar> i did !ask
[05:44] <chicken_> here is the error i get when i run X   Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed';  blah blah blah
[05:44] <kemik> token:  so if it doesnt work in windows, is that a question for #ubuntu ?
[05:44] <hmrocha> WhyvasMct, i downloaded the ISO in 3 minutes, so i guess there is one
[05:44] <stizoner> ohhh the 'blah blah blah' error :D
[05:44] <dabar> giard: in six months:)
[05:44] <token> no not really but it is still a problem
[05:45] <Concord_Dawn> Can anyone tell me where source packages are downloaded to when you 'apt-get source' them?
[05:45] <token> and problems are here to be solved
[05:45] <hmrocha> WhyvasMct, at least in my country
[05:45] <token> arent they kemik???
[05:45] <chicken_> any help ?
[05:45] <kemik> token:  yes, but you should ask in the appropiate forums/channels
[05:45] <Concord_Dawn> I want to know because I'm trying to pbuilder a tomcat package, which isn't in the repos.
[05:45] <dabar> jaqkar: good, now follow the advice, and tell us about the situation with some useful information.
[05:45] <token> u know one
[05:45] <kemik> #ubuntu isnt a windows-helpchannel
[05:45] <giard> dabar: yeah, I'm just spoiled... the diff between warty and hoary was huge
[05:45] <pont> Im using Hoary but cant seem to find the package containing X11/extensions/scrnsaver.h anyone know where this would be
[05:45] <chriszanf> hello
[05:46] <dabar> giard: you went to http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/ ?
[05:46] <token> ok ok ..... its in the name .... but perhaps the problem isnt on windows os but on linux OS on AP
[05:46] <chriszanf> i ve just installed Ubuntu [hoary]  and cant seem to suss what the SU pwd is
[05:46] <dabar> cause to me it looks pretty different already.
[05:46] <chicken_> is the a channel just for X problems ?
[05:46] <token> would this be a linux problem
[05:46] <giard> dabar: yeah
[05:46] <jaqkar> oki
[05:46] <chicken_> there8
[05:46] <token> kemik???
[05:46] <jaqkar> lets try again
[05:46] <chicken_> there*
[05:46] <dabar> chriszanf: there is none. wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:46] <kemik> token:  well, you say it works in ubuntu so it seems to be a windows problem
[05:46] <kemik> well gtg eat
[05:47] <jaqkar> I am looking to configure my Ubuntu box as a proxy/gateway, I want traffic then from the Ubuntu box to go to the ISP's proxy. So my windows box will have the ubuntu box as default gateway and pass all traffic to it, the ubuntu box will send all traffic to the proxy of ISP. The ubuntu box only has one nic.
[05:47] <token> ok ... i guess i should search somewhere else
[05:47] <jbull> chicken_:  you running breezy?
[05:47] <token> :(
[05:47] <dabar> chicken_: there is a channel for not posting after your question so it would not scroll off the screen...
[05:47] <chriszanf> thx dabar
[05:47] <chicken_> jbull, nope
[05:47] <dabar> jaqkar: give me a sec, I may know how.
[05:47] <jbull> chicken_:  and you're getting an x error about the fixed font?
[05:48] <chicken_> jbull, yea
[05:48] <Whyvasmc> hmrocha, and that link is?
[05:48] <jaqkar> dabar: thx
[05:48] <jbull> chicken_:  what is that exact error again?
[05:48] <chicken_> i'll type it hang on
[05:48] <hmrocha> Whyvasmc, if you don't live in Portugal, you'll get very low speeds with that link
[05:48] <hmrocha> Whyvasmc, all the traffic is controlled
[05:49] <chriszanf> dabar - when the install first ran, I set various items up [screen res etc]  but then logged out to try and switch off the sound servers to install OSS [for my delta66 card]  but when I went to log back into root it wouldnt. is this all down to the page you linked?
[05:49] <stizoner> this channel should have like a bot setup where people take a number to ask a question, so that some questions arent passed by and its more organized, and a seperate ubuntu/kubuntu socieal channel would be cool to keep them seperate, just an idea
[05:50] <dabar> chriszanf: well...you could never log in as root had you not set it up, ubuntu just isnt set up for root logins. THrough the graphic login screen, gdm, or the shell.
[05:50] <riv> I used ctrl-alt-f3 to get to console... how do I get back to xwindows?
[05:50] <ctp> CTRL+ALT+F7
[05:50] <chriszanf> ah...ok.
[05:50] <chriszanf> thanks again
[05:50] <riv> ok, that's not working.
[05:50] <riv> so maybe it didn't start?
[05:50] <Concord_Dawn> When I add something to a user's crontab, do I have to do anything to start it? Or does it start by itself.?
[05:50] <ctp> yeah it might not be running
[05:50] <ctp> try startx
[05:50] <dabar> chriszanf: also, you gave me information that is not needed, so I kinda got lost in your sentence. as for root issues, that page tells it all, I think.
[05:50] <chicken_> here is the error i get when i run X   Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed';  The X server's font path might be misconfigured, remote font server(s) may be unreachable, and/or local fonts may not be installed or or are not configured correctly
[05:50] <chriszanf> so all the screen res settings were lost down to not saving the session?
[05:51] <dabar> chriszanf: no idea.
[05:51] <dabar> jaqkar: ok, so, you have an Ubuntu that is connected to a modem?
[05:52] <jaqkar> dabar: i have a router and the and ubuntu behind it
[05:52] <dabar> chriszanf: resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto . the wiki has a search function.
[05:52] <riv> ctp: I startx and it just gives me a brown screen.
[05:52] <dabar> a router, eh? so, then there is a modem after the router?
[05:52] <riv> no cursor
[05:52] <riv> just brown
[05:52] <jbull> chicken_:  where does your xorg.conf say the fonts should be?
[05:52] <dabar> no cursor at all?
[05:52] <chriszanf> i have sussed that - the problem was when i logged out, the settings were not retained when i logged back in
[05:52] <chicken_> *checks*
[05:52] <jaqkar> dabar: router/modeom in one
[05:52] <dabar> ok, so ADSL?
[05:53] <ctp> thats weird, like gnome isn't launching
[05:53] <riv> dabar: not that I can see.... I move the mouse around and nothing
[05:53] <ctp> you need to add gnome-session to a file i just forget which one!
[05:53] <jaqkar> dabar: yes
[05:53] <riv> but it's a pretty but screen
[05:53] <dabar> jaqkar: is there an option to connect the windows computer to the router?
[05:53] <ctp> looks like your X is configured ok but your mouse settings are right
[05:53] <chicken_> jbull, where is the file meant to be ?
[05:53] <ctp> there's something about when you convert from XFree to Xorg where you have to change your mouse setting to /dev/input/mice
[05:54] <ctp> if you can find your mouse entry in xorg.conf and tell me what it says?
[05:54] <dabar> riv, your computer does not start gdm, eh?
[05:54] <jaqkar> dabar: internet > router > switch > win & ubuntu box
[05:54] <riv> it's starts up and then goes to brown screen.
[05:54] <jbull> chicken_:  which file? the fixed font file?
[05:54] <jaqkar> dabar: both are using the router now as default gateway
[05:54] <dabar> jaqkar: but for some reason you want the ubuntu to be the gateway for windows....
[05:54] <chicken_> jbull, no the xorg.conf
[05:55] <PAK_013> can I watch divx movies on iBook G3 300MHz 32MB ram memory with installed ubuntu and fluxbox  ???
[05:55] <dabar>  /etc/X11
[05:55] <dabar> PAK_013: have you installed the codecs?
[05:55] <jbull> chicken_:  /etc/X11, like dabar said
[05:55] <dabar> win32codecs, to be more specific.
[05:55] <jaqkar> dabar: yes because i want all traffic to go to isp proxy, so i want to config the win box to have ubuntu as default gateway and then i want ubuntu to forward all traffic to proxy of isp
[05:56] <chicken_> ahhh found it
[05:56] <chicken_> i was not looking lol
[05:56] <dabar> agreed.
[05:56] <stizoner> another idea about the channel: could also have the bot move people, if someone asks a question about a program they are using that happens to have a channel here then could just do !move channel and keep this room more clean for ubuntu questions
[05:56] <dabar> jaqkar: so, then, you can have ubuntu send out a IP to the windows...
[05:56] <PAK_013> dabar I didnt installed system yet... because I want first to know is my iBoog strong enough to play DixX ? What do you think, will it play DivX ?
[05:56] <chriszanf> ah..have another issue [sorry]  when trying to open package mngr, it opens and closes very quickly
[05:56] <dabar> jaqkar: go install ipmasq and dnsmasq from universe.
[05:57] <jaqkar> dabar: yes or can i keep static ip's?
[05:57] <dabar> I really do not know. why is nalioth no more in the channel?
[05:57] <chicken_> most the font paths are /usr/lib/X11/fonts/
[05:57] <dabar> you can have static IPs even with ubuntu telling you the IP. what is the IP you want, something like 192.***?
[05:58] <seife> yo help,how do i install mirc in linux?
[05:58] <chicken_> the local font server is  /unix:7100
[05:58] <dabar> seife: there are other programs. have you isntalled ubuntu yet?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> seife,  use a different irc client like xchat please.. :P
[05:58] <seife> man
[05:58] <seife> im afraid
[05:58] <seife> i have the HD on my hands
[05:58] <jaqkar> dabar: would like to keep a static ip on win box for now
[05:58] <seife> :'(
[05:58] <seife> i just have to unplug my windows HDs
[05:58] <seife> and plug this one
[05:58] <stizoner> xchat is easyier then mirc
[05:58] <seife> and start installing
[05:58] <PAK_013> seife use XChat ... it's great!
[05:59] <chicken_> irssi is the best :P
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> seife,  put them both in..  and install ubunto the 2nd one. and just dual boot.
[05:59] <seife> Dr_Willis i have two HDs.
[05:59] <jbull> chicken_:  seems to me like xorg is looking for your fonts in the wrong place--have you tried a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:59] <seife> plus this one
[05:59] <seife> well, 3 HDs
[05:59] <seife> 2 window HDs, and this empty one
[05:59] <chicken_> jbull, nope
[05:59] <dabar> jaqkar: what are the IPs like, 192.something?
[05:59] <jbull> chicken_:  give it a shot
[06:00] <chicken_> jbull, ok
[06:00] <dabar> PAK_013: email mspruell (at) gmail.com about the g3 performance, he uses that.
[06:00] <dabar> he wont miond, it seems.
[06:00] <seife> Dr_Willis: hello?
[06:00] <PAK_013> dabar thanks a lot!
[06:00] <chicken_> command not found
[06:01] <jaqkar> dabar: router/gateway><IP_ADDRESS> - win><IP_ADDRESS> - ubuntu><IP_ADDRESS>
[06:01] <dabar> ok, that can be easily set up, the static part. jaqkar, have you installed the two packages I told you?
[06:01] <dabar> digital_linux: hows things going?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> seife,  yes?
[06:01] <chicken_> jbull, dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[06:02] <chicken_> jbull, did i type it rigt ?
[06:02] <dabar> sure
[06:02] <jbull> chicken_:  did you use sudo?
[06:02] <zerboxx> How can I stop esd from starting up?
[06:02] <dabar> dpkg
[06:02] <chicken_> jbull, right*
[06:02] <chriszanf> when I open synaptic package manager - it close immediately.
[06:02] <riv> whoa
[06:02] <chicken_> jbull, mope nit o am logged in as root
[06:02] <dabar> zerboxx: when you log in to gnome?
[06:02] <riv> sorry about that... lost connection
[06:02] <zerboxx> dabar: Yup
[06:02] <chicken_> jbull, nope but i am logged in as root*
[06:02] <dabar> chriszanf: I hate that program, it does similar things to me too...
[06:03] <chriszanf> is it better to install apps through shell, etc?
[06:03] <jaqkar> dabar: i installed the 2 packages
[06:03] <dabar> zerboxx: its in System Prefs, sound.
[06:03] <riv> ok, when I startx, I get just a brown screen.
[06:03] <zerboxx> dabar: Perfect, thanks
[06:03] <chriszanf> im about to install nvidia driversa ther try to srot dual#head
[06:03] <Zipher> Does the amd64 live cd support usb cdroms or sata cdroms?
[06:03] <Concord_Dawn> Can anyone help me with restarting mysqld after it's crashed? I get the error shown here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1389
[06:03] <riv> dabar: sorry about that, system went dead
[06:03] <jbull> chicken_:  ah...what xorg version are you using?
[06:04] <dabar> chriszanf: not better, same, but synaptic seems still buggy in some things,. and I dont know how to fix it, so I learned command line apt-get, and aptitude
[06:04] <digital_linux> dabar,  sorry took so long had another call well i have ipmasq and dnsmasq installed
[06:04] <chriszanf> k - thanks
[06:04] <dabar> Riv: about what?...I dont know really.
[06:04] <chicken_> jbull, how do i find that out ?
[06:04] <dabar> that is fine digital_linux, Im here still...
[06:04] <riv> when I try to boot, or when I try to startx I just get a brown screen.
[06:04] <dabar> ok, you two bot have the packages installed now.
[06:05] <digital_linux> yes
[06:05] <Concord_Dawn> Can anyone help me with restarting mysqld after it's crashed? I get the error shown here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1389
[06:05] <dabar> Concord_Dawn: sudo invoke-rc.d mysqld start, or restart
[06:05] <Concord_Dawn> thanks dabar
[06:05] <chicken_> Concord_Dawn, invoke-rc.d restart mysqld        ?
[06:06] <dabar> ok, well, you digital_linux have to paste that /etc/network/interfaces.
[06:06] <Concord_Dawn> chicken_, the mysqld crashed while I was installing a kernel update.
[06:06] <digital_linux> one sec
[06:06] <Concord_Dawn> dabar, when I try your command I get invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysqld not found.
[06:06] <zerboxx> how can I see my ram usage in the terminal?
[06:06] <Concord_Dawn> erm
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> zerboxx,  'free' command i think
[06:06] <Concord_Dawn> yup.
[06:06] <dabar> You dont have it installed through apt-get do you, Concord_Dawn?
[06:07] <chicken_> Concord_Dawn, invoke-rc.d mysqld start
[06:07] <Concord_Dawn> I do.
[06:07] <jbull> chicken_:  if you navigate to /usr/lib/X11/fonts are the fonts actually there?
[06:07] <dabar> zerboxx: top.
[06:07] <Concord_Dawn> I install most things through apt-get.
[06:07] <chicken_> jbull, *checks*
[06:07] <dabar> Concord_Dawn: ls /etc/init.d and see if you have mysqld there...
[06:07] <dabar> jaqkar: you need to set up your /etc/dnsmasq.conf, so open in with sudo gedit /etc/dnsmasq.conf
[06:07] <zerboxx> Dr_Willis, dabar: free was what I was looking for, but since it's so hight, now I'll use top :)
[06:08] <digital_linux> what is that addy that i need to past it at again
[06:08] <Concord_Dawn> dabar, I have mysql, but no mysqld
[06:08] <dabar> then staert that, Concord_Dawn.
[06:08] <chicken_> jbull, There is no font folder in there
[06:08] <dabar> !paste
[06:08] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:08] <dabar> also find out the ethernet MAC address of the windows, jaqkar.
[06:08] <jaqkar> dabar: open
[06:09] <jbull> chicken_:  there is no font folder in /usr/lib/X11 at all?
[06:09] <digital_linux> dabar, i am pasting in #flood
[06:09] <chicken_> jbull, Nope
[06:09] <ofer0> i want to compile everything i download from APT, how do i do it? comment everything in sources.list but the "deb-src" repos ?
[06:09] <gabriel> hi would you help me on hibernation?
[06:09] <Concord_Dawn> thanks a lot dabar
[06:09] <jbull> chicken_:  oh my...one sec.
[06:09] <hondje> ofer0: apt-get build-dep packagename will download the required deps to build it, then apt-get source -b packagename
[06:09] <ofer0> gabriel, i don`t think you need to do it. when you restart, you can just click "save all settings" or something, and it is just like hibernation in linux
[06:09] <dabar> ok, well, scroll through it a little,  uncomment that. commented out means # is in front of the line. jaqkar.
[06:09] <chicken_> jbull, lol
[06:10] <ofer0> dabar, are you sure?
[06:10] <hondje> But you not going to be able to recompile everything without serious efforts, ubuntu isn't a source distro
[06:10] <ofer0> hondje, thanx :) can i compile my kernel and gnome that way ?
[06:10] <neil> Hi
[06:11] <zenlunatic> I am running powerpc hoary. sometimes my machine turns off for no apparant reason. any ideas?
[06:11] <jaqkar> dabar: uncomment what?
[06:11] <hondje> make-kpkg is better for the kernel, but you could redo gnome that way. Don't know why you would, but it can be done
[06:11] <dabar> ofer0: about what, I am not sure I talked to you at all.
[06:11] <riv> is anyone good with xwindows problems?
[06:11] <chicken_> zenlunatic, turn it back on :P
[06:11] <gabriel> oferg, but i would like to keep a windows xp session open on ubuntu trough vmware
[06:11] <dabar> jaqkar: that message was edited, so it does not make sense...mine, that is above.
[06:11] <riv> I just get a brown screen when I startx
[06:11] <zerboxx> Dr_Willis: I'm hoping you know, but does this make sense.. "http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1390"
[06:12] <gabriel> oferg, that's why i would like hibernation to work
[06:12] <jbull> chicken_:  you're running hoary, yes? see if the fonts are in any of these directories (if they exist): /usr/share/X11/fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
[06:12] <reiki_work> I have Spamassassin working with Evolution. If anyone is interested and wants directions I'll post a URL. It's a little slow so I wouldn't recommend it for people getting hundreds of email at the same time. Any better solution I'd love to hear about it
[06:12] <chicken_> jbull, ok
[06:12] <dabar> riv, sudo rm /tmp/*
[06:12] <jaqkar> dabar: oki ive got dnsmasq.conf open
[06:12] <riv> ok, anyone know where to find errors from xwindows?
[06:12] <dabar> that may help you.
[06:12] <ofer0> hondje, i heard that ubuntu compiled with 386 processor in order the distro to work well on 386, 486, 586 and 686 computers. if ill compile it using my 686 processor, it will be much optimized
[06:13] <riv> an error log?
[06:13] <dabar> jaqkar: how about that MAC address?
[06:13] <scoperesolution> I need help getting my wireless card working in ubuntu
[06:13] <neil> If something is not in the repositories, how do I install it?  From source or rpms?
[06:13] <jbull> scoperesolution:  what kind of card is it?
[06:13] <scoperesolution> its a microsoft mn-720
[06:13] <hondje> The difference would be minimal
[06:13] <dabar> reiki_work: post it to the forums, I think.
[06:13] <scoperesolution> I was told to use mdiswrapper
[06:13] <scoperesolution> but its not working
[06:13] <chicken_> jbull, there is no X11 folder in /usr/share
[06:13] <jbull> chicken_:  ok, and the other folder
[06:14] <jaqkar> dabar: got it
[06:14] <chicken_> jbull, where was the other folder you asked me to look in ?
[06:14] <dabar> riv, so try that, and then startx, that may well help.
[06:14] <jbull> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
[06:14] <dabar> jaqkar: good, let me open that conf file.
[06:14] <reiki_work> dabar: uh.... forums.... forums.... where? There's official ones?
[06:15] <ofer0> hondje, ok. one more question. in ubuntuforums, somebody published a "howto" compile the kernel yourself. it says something about downloading kernel-headers - but i never saw output of gcc, and i do see it when i compile regular packages thru APT. was i compiling it ?
[06:15] <dabar> ubuntuforums.org, which google could have told you, reiki.
[06:15] <riv> dabar: I did that... same problem.
[06:15] <hondje> ofer0: apt will make a .deb file, then you know it's done
[06:15] <chicken_> jbull, no fonts folder in there as well :-<
[06:15] <dabar> and you are using gnome, I take?
[06:15] <reiki_work> dabar: no offense, but I've seen several obuntu forums... wanted to make sure I was posting into the right ones. :)
[06:15] <dabar> really several? hm...I dont know if those are official.
[06:15] <ofer0> hondje, ok, thanx.
[06:16] <dabar> they are the ones I know about.
[06:16] <hondje> ofer0: I never read a kernel compiling how-to, so I don't know....frankly I'm too lazy to rebuild mine, no benefits for me since everything I have is supported
[06:16] <jaqkar> http://ubuntuforums.org/
[06:16] <jbull> scoperesolution:  try this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[06:16] <dabar> jaqkar: ok, open http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1391 .
[06:16] <riv> What is DRIScreenInit??
[06:16] <gabriel> on the net i have found that hibernation works on my laptop but there is a solution to hiberation. unload fglrx. but when i give the command rmmod fglrx i get the answer fglrx doesn't exist in /proc/modules that's because i have a ati radeon 9700 ?
[06:16] <jbull> chicken_:  hm..distressing...you're running the most current hoary?
[06:16] <cyphase> what are some wireless cards that your using with ubuntu?
[06:16] <dabar> its a config file. jaqkar, so , it has those instructions telling you what which does.
[06:17] <chicken_> jbull, 5.04 server install
[06:17] <dabar> jaqkar: will you plug the windows into the ubuntu?
[06:17] <jaqkar> dabar: open
[06:17] <dabar> or you said one NIC?
[06:18] <HeXiOn> Hi
[06:18] <jaqkar> dabar: plug?
[06:18] <jbull> chicken_:  and this x error is a recent occurrence?
[06:19] <chicken_> jbull, installed X just 10 minutes ago
[06:19] <scoperesolution> jbull, ever used mdiswrapper?
[06:19] <dabar> will you connect the windows to the Ubuntu machine, by plugging an ethernet cord into the ubuntu from windows, or did you say you have one NIC in the ubuntu PC
[06:19] <MorphDK> Hey.. When I'm doing an apt-get upgrade, it tells me that mozilla-firefox has been kept back.. Why?
[06:19] <chicken_> jbull, and installed ubuntu 20 minutes ago
[06:19] <dabar> MorphDK: did you try apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:19] <jbull> scoperesolution:  no, i'm afraid not
[06:19] <HeXiOn> I have a problem with my ubuntu installation. It doesnt recognize my SATA drive. I have been searching and found a module in the chipset's web for kernel 2.6.8. Its a file called sata_uli.c  What must I do in the installation process to load it???
[06:19] <scoperesolution> jbull, ok thanks
[06:20] <jaqkar> dabar: one nic in ubuntu. win, ubuntu and router connected via switch
[06:20] <dabar> ndiswrapper.
[06:20] <gabriel> morphdk if you use synaptic it updates firefox too with no problem
[06:20] <dabar> aha, a switrch, right, sorry.
[06:20] <MorphDK> gabriel, nope
[06:20] <scoperesolution> got any clue where I can find the kernel source without having apt-get working, since I dont have a vaild network connection anymore
[06:20] <MorphDK> dabar, no I didn't
[06:20] <dabar> same as here...now you have to tweak that dnsmasq.conf
[06:20] <gabriel> have you tried refreshing the packages?
[06:21] <HeXiOn> can someone help me?
[06:21] <jbull> chicken_:  if you run "locate fonts | grep X11" without the quotes, what shows up?
[06:21] <HeXiOn> can someone help me?
[06:21] <HeXiOn> I have a problem with my ubuntu installation. It doesnt recognize my SATA drive. I have been searching and found a module in the chipset's web for kernel 2.6.8. Its a file called sata_uli.c  What must I do in the installation process to load it???
[06:21] <dabar> jaqkar: find this part: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1392 .
[06:21] <beniamino_> anyone know anything about freezes using SMP kernels (hoary)?
[06:22] <dabar> jaqkar: remove the # from the last line, replace the MAC address with the windows one, and replace the IP shown there with the .20 one that you want.
[06:22] <Digital_Warrior0> dabar ok one i took out the gateway from eth0 my wireless stoped working.
[06:22] <beniamino_> just installed 5.04 on a dual xeon.  am getting random freezes with both 2.6.10smp and 1.6.11smp kernels
[06:22] <Digital_Warrior0> dont know y but i do not have acess to the net any more
[06:22] <dabar> well, did you again restart as before?
[06:22] <Digital_Warrior0> if i ping it trys pining with the eth0 ip
[06:22] <HeXiOn> I have a problem with my ubuntu installation. It doesnt recognize my SATA drive. I have been searching and found a module in the chipset's web for kernel 2.6.8. Its a file called sata_uli.c  What must I do in the installation process to load it???
[06:22] <Digital_Warrior0> no, doble checkd every thing then yes
[06:23] <chicken_> jbull, locate: /var/cache/locate/locatedb: no such file or directory
[06:23] <dabar> aha. and when you put back the gateway, does it work again?
[06:23] <pestilence> is there anybody in here who knows enough about ifconfig to tell me why i have to sleep 5 for certain things (e.g. mii-tool and arping) to work properly?
[06:24] <dabar> jaqkar: then you need to find this part, and set that up too: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1393 .
[06:24] <mrstarkweather> hey, does anyone know how the hell I install and RUN gstreamer so I can play .mp3 files???
[06:24] <chicken_> jbull, A.k.A : locate not working
[06:24] <gabriel> cyphase, ipw2200 b/g card
[06:24] <jbull> chicken_:  run updatedb as root
[06:25] <kevor> When i change my display settings with xrandr they are not saved, when i logout and login again my settings are ALWAYs on the highest...
[06:25] <mrstarkweather> ok...thanks...but how do I log in as the "root user"???
[06:25] <chicken_> jbull, command not found
[06:25] <Digital_Warrior0> dabar yes it does
[06:25] <Digital_Warrior0> does it matter what order they are listed in interfaces
[06:26] <chicken_> jbull, no it works just typed it wrong
[06:26] <gabriel> does anybody know how to unload vesa drivers=?
[06:26] <chicken_> jbull, what does that do ?
[06:26] <Kalquaro> Hi guys. I've got a Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop and I was trying the Ununtu Live CD. When it loads the GUI, I hear the "welcome sound" but my screen stays black. Is there any known issue regarding that problem?
[06:26] <jbull> chicken_:  creates the file that locate was complaining about not existing
[06:27] <chicken_> jbull, ahhhhh
[06:27] <chicken_> jbull, *trys again*
[06:27] <riv> Kalquaro: I'm having similar issues
[06:28] <riv> on my gateway laptop
[06:28] <chicken_> jbull, /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts :-D
[06:28] <jbull> chicken_:  is that it?
[06:28] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: I am reading something up. You can join me. sudo gunzip /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz then gedit /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces
[06:28] <riv> I'm looking at the xwindows logfile to see if there's anything useful there.
[06:29] <jaqkar> dabar: the last one -http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1393
[06:29] <chicken_> jbull, there are 3 .a files in there
[06:29] <dabar> ya?
[06:29] <jaqkar> dabar: im not using dhcp so do i still need that?
[06:29] <Kalquaro> riv: I don't know if this could be related to the graphic card... Mine is a Mobile Inter 915 Express.
[06:29] <jbull> chicken_:  no, no I mean is that the only output you get from locate?
[06:29] <dabar> You are using dhcp in fact internally.
[06:29] <Kalquaro> Inter = intel, sorry
[06:29] <dabar> the first one you did will make dhcp give the same IP address to teh windows M<AC address, however.
[06:29] <jaqkar> dabar: im using static ip's
[06:30] <dabar> ya, I know.
[06:30] <chicken_> jbull, the all go to the same place /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/font/
[06:30] <riv> Kalquaro: No idea.  But the logfile is at /var/log/Xorg.log
[06:30] <digitalfox> what did the recent update to the kernel in Hoary add/fix?
[06:31] <jbull> chicken_:  ok...try just a simple "locate fonts"
[06:31] <gabriel> hwy gabriel
[06:31] <gabriel> gabriel
[06:31] <chicken_> jbull, ok
[06:31] <jaqkar> dabar: so i will use dhcp now from ubuntu - mean ubuntu will act as dhcp?
[06:31] <selinium_> any bluetooth wizaerds around?
[06:31] <chicken_> jbull, there all in /usr/share/fonts
[06:31] <gabriel> anybody knows how to unload vesa drivers?
[06:31] <dabar> yes, that is correct.
[06:31] <Kalquaro> To be honnest I'm new to linux, I've been a Dos / Windows user for years now. I don't even know if I can try to boot using the text only mode.
[06:32] <jbull> chicken_:  seems like the fonts for X aren't installed...i don't know how that happened
[06:32] <chriszanf> tryiung to install LAMP setup - using apt-get and following pages in wiki but when I do "apt-get install php4-mysql" its saying package does not exist - any help?
[06:32] <dabar> jaqkar: set those up now.
[06:33] <riv> Kalquaro:  ctrl-alt-f3 will put you in text mode
[06:33] <chicken_> jbull, what is the normal package to install X ?
[06:33] <dabar> chriszanf: add repositories. /msg ubotu repos
[06:33] <jbull> chicken_:  is the package xfonts-base installed?
[06:34] <chriszanf> where do I do that?
[06:34] <jbull> chicken_:  xserver-xorg
[06:34] <jaqkar> dabar: done
[06:34] <dabar> jaqkar: then, sudo invoke-rc.d dnsmasq restart .
[06:34] <jaqkar> dabar: save file?
[06:34] <dabar> save file first, yes.
[06:34] <riv> in xwindows, what key combination changes resolutions?
[06:34] <dabar> then set up the windows for a dynamic IP with DHCP. Know how?
[06:35] <chicken_> jbull, don't think i had xfonts-base *downloading*
[06:35] <jaqkar> dabar: done
[06:35] <tgnx> i installed ubuntu yesterday. after installing the base system i went to install the binary ati drivers via apt-get however the version that was installed with this was too old for my chipset. i then downloaded the newest drivers from ati and installed them. i have those new drivers installed and working with 2d but cannot get dri to work. the X log files complain about the kernel module not matching with the driver version
[06:35] <jbull> chicken_:  hopefully that'll solve the problem *crosses fingers*
[06:36] <dabar> set up windows for a dynamic IP with dhcp, jaqkar?
[06:36] <chicken_> jbull, hehe :-P i should write a book on this lol
[06:36] <jaqkar> dabar: oki
[06:36] <dabar> if you dont know hwo, I have a link.
[06:36] <jaqkar> dabar: ok one thing my router is also setup for dhcp although im using static, so id prob need to disable that first
[06:37] <chicken_> jbull, good thing i have broadband it's 14.6MB
[06:37] <dabar> jaqkar: dont yet.
[06:37] <dabar> Digital
[06:37] <tgny>  i installed ubuntu yesterday. after installing the base system i went to install the binary ati drivers via apt-get however the version that was installed with this was too old for my chipset. i then downloaded the newest drivers from ati and installed them. i have those new drivers installed and working with 2d but cannot get dri to work. the X log files complain about the kernel module not matching with the driver version
[06:37] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: which gateway did you remove, the one from ra0, or from eth0, or both?
[06:38] <jaqkar> dabar: how will windows know where to get the ip from as there are 2 dhcp servers now
[06:38] <chriszanf> dabar chriszanf: add repositories. /msg ubotu repos   <== where?
[06:38] <jbull> chicken_:  agreed
[06:38] <Digital_Warrior0> yes dbar
[06:38] <dabar>  repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:38] <dabar> !ask the bot
[06:38] <ubotu> somebody said ask the bot was to get information about common things, try asking me, the bot. You can private message me if your nick is registered(/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER) you can private message me, by using /msg ubotu mp3, for example.
[06:38] <Digital_Warrior0> eth0
[06:38] <Digital_Warrior0> is the one i removed
[06:38] <chriszanf> thx dabar!
[06:38] <chicken_> jbull, *installing*
[06:38] <kelsey> How do I open ports 43594 and 43595 for inbound and outbound TCP traffic?
[06:39] <dabar> which is completely weird that would affect ra0.
[06:39] <Digital_Warrior0> ya it is
[06:39] <Digital_Warrior0> let me try someting and i will get back to you
[06:39] <dabar> ya, cool.
[06:39] <apokryphos> kelsey: look for something like "Virtual Servers" or something in your Router's Browser setup, and enable the ports from there
[06:39] <kelsey> anyone?
[06:39] <dabar> jaqkar: good question, let us think abotu that, after we try whether it works like this.
[06:39] <Digital_Warrior0> i hate it when it does not work the 3rd time
[06:39] <kelsey> thank you
[06:39] <chicken_> jbull, ok time to test it :) wish me luck every one
[06:39] <dabar> kelsey: on a erouter?
[06:40] <kelsey> it goes from etherent card to gatway to phone line (DSL)
[06:40] <jaqkar> dabar: let me disable dhcp on router since im not using it now
[06:40] <gabriel> does anybody know whitch of these modules could be my grafic card ? ide-cd ide-disk ide-generic lp mousedev psmouse sbp2 sr_mod apm
[06:40] <kelsey> i mean gateway
[06:40] <dabar> You will not get an IP on ubuntu.
[06:40] <jaqkar> dabar: need to reboot stupid router then to apply changes
[06:41] <dabar> if you disable DHCP on the router.
[06:41] <dabar> Or maybe you will, dunno about the routers that much.
[06:41] <dabar> and static IPs and that.
[06:41] <chriszanf> sorry dabar - not used mirc b4
[06:41] <plagerism> how would I could about setting LC_ALL globally??
[06:41] <dabar> chriszanf: sorry why?
[06:41] <prower> gabriel: None of those, as far as I can see
[06:41] <jaqkar> dabar: ok im confused
[06:41] <dabar> its a learning experience.
[06:41] <dabar> jaqkar: I am too.
[06:42] <chriszanf>  repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:42] <chriszanf> dabar !ask the bot
[06:42] <jaqkar> dabar: we setup ubuntu now to give ip;s
[06:42] <chicken_> jbull, well it did work but i had to force it to shutdown because it would not let me go to the terminal
[06:42] <dabar> chriszanf: ask the bot is a good thing to learn.
[06:42] <jbull> chicken_:  more error msgs?
[06:42] <dabar> let us restart that server, and see how it all works out, after you set up windows for a dynamic IP.
[06:42] <jaqkar> dabar: ok lemmi test
[06:42] <chicken_> jbull, a few but i do not think they will be much of a priblem
[06:42] <Digital_Warrior0> ok that is funn as i reoobted and x was starting i got a ping from ra0 then droped it
[06:43] <chicken_> jbull, problem*
[06:43] <jbull> chicken_:  ok, good luck
[06:43] <chicken_> jbull, Thanks :-D
[06:43] <gabriel> prower thanks. i need to unload fglrx module whitch should be for the ati radeon card that i have to activate hibernation. but i have ho fglrx module loaded in etc/modules/ what could that be then?
[06:43] <zerokarmaleft> why doesn't mono in backports ship with nunit?
[06:44] <riv> anyone know how to change xwindows resolution from commandline?
[06:44] <dabar> jaqkar: you are going to leave ubuntu as is, and set up windows for a dynamic IP using DHCP. Then you are going to try to connect with the windows, and tell me whether you get the .20 IP address.
[06:44] <mdke> how does one apply a patch to a kernel?
[06:44] <dabar> jaqkar: as I see it annyhow.
[06:45] <chicken_> How do i make X let me switch to a terminal ?
[06:45] <dabar> zerokarmaleft: hav eyou asked this at the forums?
[06:45] <chicken_> by using alt + F1 - F6
[06:45] <chriszanf> ubotu: repos
[06:45] <ubotu> somebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:45] <dabar> alt+ctrl+f4
[06:45] <Determinist> how can i remove the ATI drivers i've installed?
[06:46] <dabar> chriszanf: ya, that works too, but if you ask him in private, we dont see it, and can chat here easier.
[06:46] <chicken_> X won't let me use alt F1 - F6
[06:46] <dabar>  alt+ctrl+
[06:46] <zerokarmaleft> dabar, somebody already did
[06:46] <chicken_> oooops i mean alt + ctrl + F1 - F6
[06:47] <_BIJ_> anyone knows how to update ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 without a complete reinstall?
[06:47] <Digital_Warrior0> now that is funny
[06:47] <Digital_Warrior0> \i can now see the net but cant see the other machine
[06:47] <dabar> zerokarmaleft: ok, good.
[06:48] <dabar> ok, on the linux?
[06:48] <ZincX> 5.10 is out ?
[06:48] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: on the linux?
[06:48] <Digital_Warrior0> yes
[06:48] <_BIJ_> 5.10 colony 3
[06:48] <chicken_> what do i do so X lets me use ctrl + alt + F1 - F6 ?
[06:48] <Digital_Warrior0> it is like it will only take one ip
[06:48] <ZincX> oho.. beta aen ?
[06:49] <Digital_Warrior0> but i had it working before to where on linux i could be on the net and see the other pc
[06:49] <plagerism> Hey I just upgraded to breezy for testing purposes.  Is there a known bug with python 2.4 regarding locales??  I found a similar bug report on a debian changelog
[06:49] <mdke> _BIJ_, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace each instance of "hoary" with "breezy"
[06:49] <jaqkar__> oki back
[06:49] <Digital_Warrior0> let me see somehting
[06:49] <dabar> Nono, we'll fix that, Digital_Warrior0. so, now you can see the Internet with the wireless, great, what did you do?
[06:49] <hmrocha> _BIJ_, don't update yet, you'll have problems
[06:49] <_BIJ_> hmm oki...
[06:49] <_BIJ_> hmrocha, but i really want to try...
[06:49] <dabar> oki, jaqkar__
[06:49] <mdke> _BIJ_, you can do it, but if you want a stable working system, don't do it
[06:50] <jaqkar__> dabar: weird thing now
[06:50] <mdke> _BIJ_, if you just want to try it for fun, do it
[06:50] <hmrocha> _BIJ_, change all repositories from hoary to breezy
[06:50] <hmrocha> _BIJ_, then, "sudo apt-get update"
[06:50] <jaqkar__> dabar: win get ip, must be from ubuntu because it get default gateway as <IP_ADDRESS> which is ubuntu box
[06:50] <hmrocha> _BIJ_, "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:50] <_BIJ_> ok thanx i'll try... just 4 fun
[06:51] <hmrocha> _BIJ_, after the upgrade you'll come here and say "X stoped working, what can i do?"
[06:51] <jaqkar__> dabar: win gets ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:51] <mdke> who can tell me how to apply a patch to kernel source?
[06:51] <dabar> but you set up that one line I told you?
[06:51] <jaqkar__> dabar: not .20 as specified
[06:51] <dabar> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1392
[06:51] <jaqkar__> dabar: yes
[06:51] <chicken_> when i try startx it says command not found ?
[06:51] <Digital_Warrior0> ok dabar it looks like i can only use one interface at a time
[06:51] <jaqkar__> dabar: i setup both
[06:51] <dabar> ya, weird, but goes to the Internet?
[06:51] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to open .vnc files??
[06:52] <dabar> that would be very strange, Digital_Warrior0
[06:52] <dabar> what did you do to get online?
[06:52] <dabar> jaqkar__ your windows can get online?
[06:52] <ZincX> hey... 2.6.11 is out aen ?
[06:53] <_BIJ_> hmrocha, do you think that the x-server will stop working?
[06:53] <mdke> _BIJ_, it is likely
[06:53] <jaqkar__> dabar: no
[06:54] <dabar> jaqkar__: you cant get online?
[06:54] <jaqkar__> dabar: if i check ipconfig it shows its got an ip
[06:54] <mdke> _BIJ_, if you are an experienced Ubuntu or debian user you will be able to fix it, but otherwise, you can look on the forums for help
[06:54] <Dr_Melectaus> im trying to install some packages, and it asks me to put the ubuntu install disc in. When i do so and attempt to mount it i get an error message saying "mount: can't open /etc/mtab for writing: Input/output error". Can anyone help me sort it out?
[06:54] <dabar> but you can get online with it, eh?...hm...
[06:54] <jaqkar__> dabar: but in windows its trying to aquire ip address
[06:54] <Digital_Warrior0> took out the gateway out of eth0 ifdown everyting and then ifup ra0 then ifup eth0
[06:54] <_BIJ_> oh shit... hmm
[06:54] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: which gets you online, good.
[06:55] <dabar> ifconfig, Digital_Warrior0
[06:55] <dabar> tell me if there is a eth0 entry, and paste it.
[06:55] <jaqkar__> dabar: no it wont get online
[06:55] <dabar> not here, right...
[06:55] <dabar> jaqkar__: lets do the following then, I guess..
[06:55] <Digital_Warrior0> ok hear is one for you i just ifdown eth0 and on the windows box i am getting a relpy now
[06:55] <jaqkar__> what is the conf file again so i can check it
[06:55] <mdke> _BIJ_, it's good fun to learn how to fix these things, but if you don't have the time or don't want to have that problem, don't upgrade
[06:56] <dabar> open that config file again. /etx/dnsmasq.conf
[06:56] <dabar> etc
[06:56] <jaqkar__> k
[06:56] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: ? heh, so now it connects to the networkl?
[06:56] <ZincX> dabar, what if i wanted to update from 2.6.10-5 to 2.6.11-1
[06:56] <ZincX> ?
[06:57] <dabar> ZincX: no idea.
[06:57] <dabar> jaqkar__: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1394 set that up.
[06:57] <Digital_Warrior0> what do you want to know out of ifconfig
[06:57] <ZincX> oh? k
[06:57] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: is it working now?
[06:58] <ZincX> dabar, im facin sum prblems wen im compiling an ircd ...
[06:58] <dabar> speak in english.
[06:58] <Digital_Warrior0> not at the same time
[06:58] <dabar> aha.
[06:58] <Digital_Warrior0> ifconfig shows it as being up but i can not ping it
[06:58] <dabar> well. tell me again, you shut down eth0, and can get online, and ping the 2000 box ??
[06:59] <Digital_Warrior0> linux is connect to the internet that is it
[06:59] <ZincX> me ?
[06:59] <Flonne> ZincX, several IRCds already reside in the various Ubuntu repositories. Could you mention its name?
[06:59] <dabar> jaqkar__: then you will need to reboot all machines, everything. You wont really need to, but  want you to see what happens when you reboot everything. Shut down the modem, and the computers, leave it off for a minute(praying is a good activity during this time...)
[06:59] <Digital_Warrior0> no
[06:59] <Concord_Dawn> Anyone know a good bandwidth metering program?
[06:59] <ZincX> Flonne, the ircds on ubuntu repositories are not updated.. i am trying to run ircu.. but i am facing some problems with some AC thingy
[06:59] <Digital_Warrior0> if ra0 is down i can ping the 200 box but not the internet if ra0 up eth0 up i can get on internet but can not ping eth0
[06:59] <dabar> then turn on the router, and modem thingie, and then after it gets solid lights on it, turn on the ubuntu. When everyuthing is booted, turn on the windows.
[07:00] <jaqkar__> dabar: just noticed something
[07:00] <dabar>
[07:01] <Flonne> ZincX, in what stage does the error occur? If it's configuring, you may have an unsatisfied dependency.
[07:01] <jaqkar__> dabar: where i had to put the mac address
[07:01] <dabar> right.
[07:01] <jaqkar__> dabar: in windows its xx-xx-xx-xx
[07:01] <dabar> did you uncomment?
[07:01] <ZincX> Flonne, there is a little problem when configuring
[07:01] <dabar> ya
[07:01] <jaqkar__> dabar: in the conf it needs xx:xx:xx:xx
[07:01] <dabar> same crap.
[07:02] <ZincX> that happens sometimes
[07:02] <jaqkar__> dabar: gonna fix it now
[07:02] <dabar> aha
[07:02] <John> where is the archive modprobe.conf?
[07:02] <chicken_> why do i get command not found when i try start x ???
[07:02] <dabar> ok, ya, set it up as said in the conf file.
[07:02] <ZincX> but if the configuring is correct.. then the problem arises when i make
[07:02] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: um...
[07:02] <chicken_> why do i get command not found when i try startx ???
[07:02] <ZincX> ircd@net:~/ircu<IP_ADDRESS>+MChat$ make
[07:02] <dabar> get both interfaces up for a second.
[07:02] <ZincX> cd . && autoconf
[07:02] <ZincX> configure.in:120: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross compiling
[07:02] <dabar> then paste the ifconfig output, plaeas..
[07:03] <Digital_Warrior0> ok one min let me log back in
[07:03] <dabar> sure
[07:04] <jaqkar__> dabar: what was cmd to restart?
[07:04] <Digital_Warrior0> connecting be there in a min
[07:04] <chicken_> why do i get command not found when i try startx ???
[07:04] <dabar> any server on ubuntu and debian can be restarted by invoke-rc.d servername restart
[07:05] <dark^ngel> Bad page state at free_hot_cold_page -- wuzzat?
[07:05] <dabar> as root, so sudo invoke-rc.d dnsmasq restart
[07:05] <chicken_> why do i get command not found when i try startx ???
[07:06] <tgny> what do i need to install to change the gtk theme when i'm in KDE?
[07:06] <Digital_Warrior0> x not installed
[07:06] <Digital_Warrior0> laugh out loud
[07:06] <dabar> hehe, he spelled it out.
[07:06] <dark^ngel> or xorg instead of XF86
[07:06] <dabar> it needs to be installed, tho, chicken_.
[07:06] <Digital_Warrior0> no my irc script does it
[07:06] <cmatheson> i think my server's disk is fried... where can i get a rescue disk (the install cd doesn't have that functionality i think?)
[07:06] <jaqkar_u> dabar: i used ssh from win
[07:06] <dabar> chicken_: how did you install ubuntu? as sercver install?
[07:07] <jaqkar_u> dabar: got disconnected - ppfft
[07:07] <cyphase> does anyone in san francisco know anything about the explosion that just happened?
[07:07] <jaqkar_u> dabar: how do i restart the dnsmasq
[07:07] <tgny> what explosion
[07:08] <dabar> jaqkar_u: you nick names are annoying:P anyhow, sudo invoke-rc.d dnsmasq restart
[07:08] <chicken_> dabar, yes i installed ubuntu as server
[07:08] <selinium_> any bluetooth wizards around?
[07:08] <John> Sorry, where is the archive modprobe.conf?
[07:08] <tgny> cyphase, what explosion. got a URL?
[07:08] <cyphase> no, it just happened
[07:08] <cyphase> a few minutes ago
[07:08] <tgny> how "big" and where?
[07:08] <cyphase> thought maybe someone in san francisco knows something
[07:08] <dabar> chicken_: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop will install everything for you, I think, chicken_, IF YOU WANT GNOME, install kubuntu-desktop if yo uwant kde, ask me more if you want another WM/desktop env.
[07:09] <tgny> cyphase, how do you know about it?
[07:09] <cyphase> radio
[07:09] <dabar> cyphase: serious?
[07:09] <cyphase> yea
[07:09] <chicken_> dabar, Fluxbox ?
[07:09] <cyphase> 810AM on the west coast
[07:09] <Digital_Warrior0> what the fuck
[07:09] <dabar> chicken_: why that? slower comp?
[07:09] <tgny> cyphase, what exactly did they say?'
[07:09] <stizoner> installing another desktop when you have kde.. it will give you an option to choose at login right?
[07:10] <cyphase> explosion on pine and hurts, people being evacuated, that's about it
[07:10] <cyphase> hurst*
[07:10] <chicken_> dabar, yep, AMD-K6-2 550mhz 179mb RAM 4mb graphics chip
[07:10] <Digital_Warrior0> i have a tornado in wisconsin
[07:11] <jasoncohen> i just noticed that my amd 64 3000+ on my desktop is scaling back to 1 Ghz when it's idle and goes up to 2 only when it needs to. Does this have any impact on performance?
[07:11] <Arnia> cyphase: Nothing on news.bbc.co.uk
[07:11] <cyphase> Arnia, it just happened
[07:11] <cyphase> and bbc is a british news org anyway
[07:11] <cyphase> it'll get it soon though
[07:11] <cyphase> once more info is available
[07:11] <chriszanf> sorry to bug again - how do I add repositories when synaptic manager wont work - needc to add on shell
[07:12] <chicken_> dabar, so to install fluxbox with X i need to ...
[07:12] <Digital_Warrior0> cnn fox nbc abc cbs cant faind any thinghing about it
[07:12] <tgny> cyphase, i got people here with bloomberg news feeds they usually know shit first
[07:12] <dabar> chicken_: I think you need to install x-window-system
[07:12] <Arnia> cyphase: BBC normally have events like that in a couple of minutes
[07:12] <tgny> cyphase,  i will ask around
[07:12] <chicken_> dabar, and how do i do that ?
[07:12] <dabar> sudo aptitude install installs stuff.
[07:13] <jasoncohen> how can cpu scaling be tunred off and is there any performance advantage to doing so? What's the point of lowering the CPU frequency on a desktop anyways?
[07:13] <jaqkar> dabar: ok nick is back to normal sry
[07:13] <dabar> kk, thats cool.
[07:13] <dabar> so fixed that static IP thing?
[07:13] <stizoner> jasoncohen, to keep your computer cool and reduce electricity costs jasoncohen
[07:13] <Digital_Warrior0> dam it all i am getting is tornados in wiscon
[07:13] <Concord_Dawn> anyone know a good bandwidth metering program for Ubuntu?
[07:13] <jaqkar> dabar: rebooting win machine to check
[07:13] <jasoncohen> stizoner, and does it affect performance?
[07:14] <thenuke> Concord_Dawn: yes, google.
[07:14] <benkong2> In an ftp server setup I have /home/ftp with an upload and download dir under that should dirs be chmod'ed to the user/group that proftpd runs under?
[07:14] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: pasted that stuff from ifconfig?
[07:14] <dabar> ah, just did, eh.
[07:14] <dabar> :)
[07:14] <stizoner> no shouldnt
[07:14] <tgny> cyphase, nothing on  bloomberg
[07:14] <digital_linux> dabar, i posted it in flood
[07:14] <digital_linux> had to take down eth0 even though i could ping out
[07:15] <stizoner> jasoncohen,  http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9487%5E10272,00.html
[07:15] <jasoncohen> stizoner, so the delay when upping the cpu frequency should be small enough to have no impact on load speeds of progrsma for example?
[07:16] <jasoncohen> stizoner, thanks
[07:16] <dabar> digital_linux: remove the broadcast too.
[07:16] <stizoner> yeah shouldnt, people would have a fit if it did, would be all over hardware review sites... least thats how i look at it
[07:16] <digital_linux> from eth0
[07:16] <digital_linux> or ra0
[07:16] <dabar> eth0
[07:16] <jasoncohen> stizoner, thanks for the info
[07:17] <Gly> I saw the USN-170 before (rss-feed) and updated the kernel image. When I rebooted there was a passphrase prompt just after grub but before the usual boot process... I just hit enter and the computer booted as usual.. What was that?
[07:17] <jaqkar> dabar: win is not getting the .20 ip from ubuntu instead its getting .8
[07:17] <Gly> USN-169 I meant..
[07:17] <chriszanf> how do I add repositories on a shell? pacjkage manager doesnt want to work
[07:17] <codecaine> Anyone in here know why some clients of mine can't list directories on an ftp connection?
[07:18] <dabar> rooooot has landed.
[07:18] <cyphase> http://www.kgoam810.com/listenlive/listenlive.pls - will have info about the explosion in SF
[07:18] <alec> chriszanf: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:18] <digital_linux> hello
[07:18] <dabar> hi
[07:18] <zapada> does 5.04 have better 56k win modem support?
[07:18] <zapada> i cant get it to work!
[07:18] <chriszanf> ubotu: repos
[07:18] <ubotu> I guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[07:18] <dabar> no way it works?
[07:19] <zapada> ubotu: 56k
[07:19] <ubotu> zapada: What?
[07:19] <zapada> ubotu: dial up
[07:19] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, zapada
[07:19] <dabar> !msg the bot
[07:19] <chriszanf> thank Alec
[07:19] <zapada> !msg the bot
[07:19] <digital_linux> took then down brought them up had to take down eh0 again to connect to internet
[07:20] <zapada> ubotu is acting up
[07:20] <ubotu> Wish i knew, zapada
[07:20] <cyphase> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/baycitynews/archive/2005/08/19/explosion19.DTL
[07:20] <zapada> it should at least be able to tell if im talking to it or not
[07:20] <dabar> msg the bot is, like, totally, please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. dont annoy dabaR
[07:20] <HappyFool> heh
[07:20] <chriszanf> dabar talks like a bot
[07:21] <dabar> I pasted that.
[07:21] <tenco> i cant log in to the wiki
[07:21] <jaqkar> dabar: hah
[07:21] <chriszanf> exactly!
[07:21] <chriszanf> ;)
[07:21] <tenco> i says "false password"
[07:21] <jaqkar> dabar: i fixed it
[07:21] <tenco> but i registered!
[07:21] <lee> what is the minimum recommended RAM/processofor running ubuntu?  I notice the instlaler says 128MB is required, but I can't find a mention of a processor... I have a 600MHz/256MB RAM box that I'm wondering how it'd work on
[07:21] <dabar> jaqkar: so its the .20?
[07:21] <pestilence> does anybody know how to determine when an interface is ready after "ifconfig $if" ?
[07:21] <jaqkar> dabar: .20 wasnt in the range for dhcp my bad1
[07:21] <Belutz> !tell me about themes
[07:21] <dabar> digital_linux: so, again its not working. send me again the eth0 part of ifconfig
[07:21] <jaqkar> dabar: now its getting .20
[07:22] <tenco> i enter "tenco" and my password but the wik keeps complaining!!
[07:22] <tenco> s/wik/wiki
[07:22] <tenco> so, how can i log in???
[07:22] <Digital_Warrior0> asd
[07:22] <pestilence> err "ifconfig $if up"
[07:23] <root_> hello every body
[07:23] <tenco> noone using the wiki?
[07:23] <zapada> why doesnt ubuntu work with my 56k winmodem?
[07:23] <hardw1re> hi
[07:23] <tenco> why cant i login to the wiki?
[07:23] <thenuke> zapada: you just said it.. windows modem
[07:23] <codecaine> anyone here help me with directory listing problems with certain ftp programs/computers?
[07:23] <tenco> i registered with this launchpad thingy and now i cant log in
[07:23] <HappyFool> zapada: what model of modem is it?
[07:23] <digital_linux> did you get it
[07:23] <digital_linux> posted
[07:24] <zapada> its an AOpen
[07:24] <root_> i v been unable to get my canon XNUi255 to work in UBUNTU .... it used to work fine in FEDORA CORE 3
[07:24] <zapada> connexant chipset
[07:24] <pestilence> codecaine: be more specific
[07:24] <dabar> root_: dont use IRC as root.
[07:24] <jaqkar> dabar: whats next?
[07:24] <jaqkar> lol
[07:24] <tenco> i even resetted my password, typed it in correctly but i cant login! i just want to make an entry!!!
[07:24] <root_> and i m unable to get my onboard intel 865 video to work properly
[07:24] <zapada> UBUNTU!!!
[07:25] <dabar> jaqkar: you still cant get online with windows? also, dont laugh at others.
[07:25] <dabar> hah
[07:25] <jaqkar> :)
[07:25] <tenco> so how can i post entrys on the wiki?
[07:25] <jaqkar> dabar: im holding it in
[07:25] <tenco> this launchpad thingy doesnt work
[07:25] <jaqkar> dabar: windows cant get online
[07:25] <mohkohn> Anybody here experienced with ubuntu and debian? I am trying to install sarge on this hp 4918ea laptop...
[07:26] <dark^ngel> What good is a window that isn't open anyway?
[07:26] <HappyFool> zapada: been here? http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/ ? (note that you have to pay for the 'full' version of the drivers)
[07:26] <zapada> HappyFool: yes, i tried those, and they didnt work
[07:26] <zapada> i got my modem to dial, but after that, it would just disconnectg
[07:26] <chriszanf> ok - I edited apt-list and tried to install php4-mysql but it still says it cant find the package
[07:26] <mohkohn> Ubuntu went on no problem but I get these errors as in this post...http://www.debianhelp.org/module-pnForum-viewtopic-topic-9617.html
[07:26] <dabar> mohkohn: ask on #debian
[07:27] <Concord_Dawn> Anyone know a good bandwidth metering program?
[07:27] <dabar> if you awnt to know about debian, they know so much.
[07:27] <dabar> concord...
[07:27] <dabar> bandwidth to your router? to the first gateway? opn your network? to a porn site?
[07:27] <dabar> it will all vary.
[07:27] <mohkohn> I have been. Trying to figure out what is different. Its supposed to be the same installer in both.
[07:27] <zapada> to porn site
[07:27] <Concord_Dawn> dabar, I was thinking all bandwidth used on my computer
[07:28] <stizoner> zapada, do you use software to connect in windows or dialup networking?
[07:28] <mohkohn> I know a lot of ubuntu people work with both
[07:28] <Concord_Dawn> preferably broken down by user
[07:28] <dark^ngel> about that explosion in SF -- http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_231131708.html
[07:28] <dabar> Concord_Dawn: use a firewall.
[07:28] <tenco> ok. so no one knows how this damn wiki works.
[07:28] <dabar> like firestarter will be telling you that.
[07:28] <zapada> stizoner: no
[07:28] <dabar> I dont know. Also, I think you should think a little more about what you are exactly trying to see, so you can ask better. Concord_Dawn
[07:29] <dabar> tenco
[07:29] <dabar> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/tenco
[07:29] <Concord_Dawn> I'm trying to see how much data I transfer between this computer and any other machine
[07:29] <Digital_Warrior0> daar i did that but it is still there
[07:29] <tenco> dabar: ?
[07:29] <dabar> ya, and still no advancement in the field of science?
[07:29] <dabar> tenco click.
[07:29] <dabar> it will tell you more.
[07:30] <stizoner> some isps wont work with just username and pass (netzero), some require username@ sometimes.., if your getting dialtone id say that the modem is working fine, my guess
[07:30] <digital_linux> dabar i am going to bed i have to get some sleep i will be back up in 5 hrs
[07:30] <dabar> ya, I am leaving too.
[07:30] <dabar> good luck.
[07:30] <Digital_Warrior0> thanks
[07:30] <zapada> stizoner: i put in the same info that i do on my windows machine
[07:30] <jaqkar> dabar: /
[07:30] <dabar> welcome.
[07:30] <tenco> dabar: it only tells me sth about templates and that this site does not exist
[07:30] <dabar> and what do you want? you wanted a new page...to create, so create it.
[07:31] <jaqkar> dabar: what do i have to do now?
[07:31] <stizoner> zapada, no clue then, but if you got dialtone id say it isnt a driver issue, i may be wrong
[07:31] <eqlb> just a quick question about breezy badger, i am having a partition error come up when i tempt to install it
[07:31] <zapada> also, how come ubuntu takes so farkin long to load? xp takes me 5 seconds to load, while ubuntu almost a minute
[07:32] <dabar> jaqkar: you need to paste your /etc/network/interfaces
[07:32] <ctp> zapada, yeah but how long does it take in XP to login and load all the apps you use day-to-day
[07:32] <dark^ngel> zapada: have you disabled services you aren't using?
[07:32] <tenco> dabar: i wanted to edit a page, therefore i need to log in. i registered with launchpad, but the wiki refuses that that account name and password
[07:32] <jaqkar> /etc/network.interfaces
[07:32] <zapada> dark^ngel: no
[07:32] <dabar> well, did you reguister with the web site?
[07:32] <dabar> I dont know, tenco.
[07:32] <dabar> try registering again.
[07:33] <tenco> with launchpad, yes
[07:33] <dark^ngel> zapada: that will make significant difference
[07:33] <zapada> ctp: takes me 5 seconds for full bootup on xp, and installing apps is like seconds?
[07:33] <jaqkar> ok getting it
[07:33] <tenco> dabar: and i can log into launchpad
[07:33] <ctp> ok stick with XP then if you're happy with it
[07:33] <KaiL> Lathiat, so here..
[07:33] <Lathiat> KaiL: you could (yhou shouldnt, but can)
[07:33] <KaiL> you have an idea to stop that script? ;)
[07:33] <dabar> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/join_form
[07:33] <Hikaru79> Is anyone else having problems with planetmirror repositories?
[07:33] <leitao> have anyone listen about bad vga memory and kernel remmaping?
[07:33] <zapada> how do i prevent ubuntu from trying to syncronize with the ubuntu clock?
[07:33] <dabar> tenco: ^
[07:33] <Lathiat> KaiL: remove /lib/linux-restricted-modules/`uname -r`/nvidia
[07:33] <dabar> I need to go eat.
[07:33] <Lathiat> zapada: right click the clock and goto preferences, you can change it there
[07:33] <KaiL> ah, thanks
[07:34] <zapada> Lathiat: thanks
[07:34] <Lathiat> zapada: or on startup, update-rc.d -f remove ntpdate .
[07:34] <dabar> jaqkar: /join #flood
[07:34] <zapada> Lathiat: im a noob :)
[07:34] <dabar> jaqkar: in there.
[07:34] <jaqkar> dabar: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1395
[07:34] <Lathiat> zapada: err
[07:34] <Lathiat> zapada: sorry
[07:34] <dabar> jaqkar: even better.
[07:34] <Lathiat> zapada: update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[07:34] <tenco> dabar: ok, solved. the login mask is "name" & "password" but it needs "e-mail" & "password"
[07:34] <jaqkar> :)
[07:34] <dark^ngel> zapada: everyone is on their first days.
[07:35] <dabar> tenco: Ok, I am glad that worked dfor you.
[07:35] <dabar> I gotta go, jaqkar, sorry.
[07:35] <dabar> Ill send you an email if you want.
[07:35] <jaqkar> ok
[07:35] <dabar> pm me with it.l
[07:35] <dabar>  /msg dabar
[07:35] <Hikaru79> Is anyone else having problems with planetmirror repositories?
[07:35] <eqlb> can some one suggest something about that or is it common, it comes up with a title of ??? ??? and it says continue and go back and if you select ether you can quickly get a glimps og unimplemented  command
[07:36] <eqlb> for breezy badger before the partition
[07:36] <zapada> has anyone here gotten a win modem to work on ubuntu and actually connect?
[07:36] <dabar> ok later
[07:36] <HappyFool> i have a winmodem (not conexant); it's what i'm using right now
[07:36] <jaqkar> dabar: sent you pm :)
[07:37] <dark^ngel> zapada: the agere works questionably, but that's actually what I call a LinModem
[07:37] <dabar> ya, saw it.
[07:37] <jaqkar> :)
[07:38] <zwnj> i made a symlink of /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.{conf,load} in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ and apache loads php ("PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4" in directory index), but i get source of php files yet (mediawiki's start page for example)
[07:38] <tamarack> hello
[07:38] <zapada> hey tamarack
[07:38] <tamarack> does anyone know how to make browser mode the default in nautilus?
[07:39] <tamarack> hi zapada
[07:39] <jbull> tamarack:  its a gconf key somewhere
[07:39] <tamarack> yah, I'm trying to track it down
[07:39] <tamarack> looking through the forums right now
[07:40] <tamarack> I was hoping someone might be able to save me a little work ;-)
[07:40] <HappyFool> zwnj: hmm, i followed this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP and it 'just worked'
[07:40] <HappyFool> zwnj: i didn't have to create any symlinks, that i recall
[07:40] <Seveas> tamarack, in the options of nautilus :)
[07:40] <Seveas> tab behavior
[07:40] <Seveas> select 'always open in browser windows'
[07:40] <absinthe_> Could someone reccomend a linux painting program like Corel Painter?
[07:40] <tamarack> I must have missed it, just a sec
[07:41] <stizoner> tux paint
[07:41] <stizoner> jk lo
[07:41] <Seveas> absinthe_, gimp / inkscape are the de facto drawing programs
[07:41] <tamarack> ack, I must have looked right at it
[07:41] <tamarack> completely missed it
[07:41] <tamarack> thanks :)
[07:41] <zwnj> HappyFool: danke :)
[07:41] <absinthe_> Seveas, Can you digitally paint artwork?
[07:42] <HappyFool> zwnj: bitte  -- i hope it works ;)
[07:42] <Seveas> absinthe_, I'm not an artist, I;m horrible at painting and related things :)
[07:42] <Seveas> (In fact all original images on my website are php scripts :))
[07:42] <absinthe_> Seveas, Thanks anyway. I'll check em out
[07:42] <tamarack> ahhhh, that is so much better
[07:42] <Hikaru79> Is anyone else having problems with planetmirror repositories?
[07:43] <riv> Question, what is the best driver for 'Intel 915GM'
[07:43] <Seveas> Hikaru79, they're not working
[07:43] <Seveas> try another mirror
[07:43] <Hikaru79> Seveas, oh, good. SO it's not just me.
[07:43] <Hikaru79> Seveas, which other mirror could I use for the backports?
[07:43] <Hikaru79> This is the only planetmirror repo I have: deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[07:43] <Hikaru79> What can I replace it by?
[07:44] <HappyFool> maybe the backports page has more
[07:44] <HappyFool> !backports
[07:44] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[07:44] <HappyFool> hrm
[07:44] <HappyFool> backports.ubuntuforums.org, i think
[07:44] <Hikaru79> Thanks, HappyFool :)
[07:44] <Seveas> !hoary-extras
[07:44] <ubotu> hmm... hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[07:44] <benkong2> hey folks uname -v just gives me this " #1 Fri Jun 24 18:51:20 UTC 2005" I thought that was the kernel version switch. How do I get kernel version
[07:45] <HappyFool> uname -r
[07:45] <benkong2> HappyFool; thanks
[07:45] <cartman> fonts fucked up for anyone with latest breezy ?
[07:45] <riv> what is the command to reconfigure my Xconf?
[07:46] <cartman> my fonts all went foobar after latest dist-upgrade
[07:46] <Seveas> riv, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:46] <riv> thanks sev
[07:47] <Seveas> cartman, read ubuntu-devel@lists when using breezy...
[07:47] <Seveas> this issue was in the notes
[07:47] <cartman> Seveas: I appreciate links
[07:47] <cartman> my eyes are dying
[07:47] <sockpuppe1> 'ol bill is working on his own flavour of linux
[07:48] <sockpuppe1> its called micrix
[07:48] <cartman> Seveas: any link ?
[07:48] <sockpuppe1> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4727267.stm
[07:48] <Seveas> cartman, searching...
[07:48] <cartman> Seveas: thanks
[07:48] <cartman> Seveas: fonts are too bad here so I can't really read
[07:49] <Seveas> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-August/009421.html
[07:49] <cartman> Seveas: xkb is not related to fonts
[07:49] <zenlunatic> how do i play dvds through vlc?
[07:49] <cartman> you know ...
[07:49] <Seveas> cartman, i know
[07:49] <Seveas> was the wrong link :)
[07:50] <Seveas> still looking
[07:50] <cartman> Seveas: ok :)
[07:50] <Seveas> but it's good to read that post too :)
[07:50] <Seveas> did you perhaps use a workaround to 'fix' the fonts issue earlier?
[07:50] <orangey> hey all!
[07:51] <orangey> I was wondering if there was a backported amarok 1.3 around..
[07:51] <cartman> Seveas: not really
[07:52] <Seveas> orangey, there is, but I forgot where :|
[07:52] <Seveas> look at the kanotix repositories, it might have been there
[07:52] <zenlunatic> how do you play dvds?
[07:52] <HappyFool> !restricted
[07:52] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:52] <HappyFool> zenlunatic: that page should tell you how to play dvds
[07:53] <Seveas> orangey, try: deb http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/unstable/ /
[07:53] <ridiie> Hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu to my secondary HD... if I were to use the unbuntu ISO CD to boot at startup.. will it write anything to my primary HD?
[07:54] <dk156> noob here! :)    I have to manually install the iptables for a firewall config - right?
[07:54] <Lathiat> ridiie: you wont be able to do that properly
[07:54] <Lathiat> ridiie: ubuntu's boot manager offers an option to start windows, however
[07:54] <ridiie> if I install Ubuntu I mean
[07:54] <apokryphos> It won't override windows, if that's what you mean
[07:54] <Lathiat> ridiie: or you could install the boot manager on your second hard drive and ask your bios to boot from that hard drive rahter than the first one (doesnt work on all computers)
[07:54] <apokryphos> if you choose to, it will install GRUB on the MBR
[07:54] <ridiie> oh
[07:54] <orangey> Seveas: that's a backport for hoary?
[07:54] <Lathiat> but yeh it'l have a windows option in its menu, and it will do that automagically
[07:55] <Lathiat> unlike windows it cares about what other operating systems you have :)
[07:55] <zenlunatic> HappyFool: oh there is no free software to do this so i will leave it undone
[07:55] <apokryphos> indeed
[07:55] <HappyFool> !firewall
[07:55] <ubotu> firewall is, like, Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[07:55] <ridiie> yeah, I hate windows
[07:55] <HappyFool> zenlunatic: the software is free as in gratis
[07:55] <ridiie> its like heroin, hate using it.. but gotta use it
[07:55] <dk156> thanx bot
[07:56] <orangey> ridiie: gotta for what?
[07:56] <vagamente> i just got mplayer "freezed"... how can i "kill" it?????????'
[07:56] <Seveas> orangey, I bet you can make it work on hoary
[07:56] <ridiie> msoffice
[07:56] <ridiie> work related stuff
[07:56] <Seveas> vagamente, pkill -KILL mplayer
[07:56] <orangey> Seveas: I don't wanna spend too much time making ti work..
[07:57] <Seveas> orangey, quick recipe: add the deb-src url, apt-get source it, apt-get build-dep amarok, cd into the sourcedir, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[07:57] <a1zi> is there an irc channel for 1994-1998 mustangs?
[07:57] <Hoxzer> how can I write url in w3m?
[07:57] <Seveas> a1zi, probably not on this server :)
[07:57] <riv> how do I check for new video drivers?
[07:57] <a1zi> Seveas, how do i get to one?
[07:57] <orangey> Seveas: yeah, but I don't particularly want it to update everything else in its rep.
[07:57] <Seveas> a1zi, I have no idea at all
[07:58] <a1zi> Seveas, ok thanks
[07:58] <Seveas> orangey, if you add only the deb-src url, nothing from that repository will be used in updates
[07:58] <riv> Are there new video drivers in universe that aren't part of core?
[07:58] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: type 'g'
[07:58] <vagamente> Seveas: THANX A LOT!!!
[07:58] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: err. that's using w3m in emacs
[07:59] <ridiie> ok, basically I need to know if I use the Ubuntu ISO disk to boot.. will it give me an option to install the OS to a partician in my secondary HD? and I have several particians on my first HD.. will it affect data in those particians in any way?
[07:59] <dark^ngel> alzi: you could /j #mustangs_older and start your own ;)
[08:00] <chicken_> woohoo i got Fluxbox running :D
[08:00] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: type 'H' for help
[08:01] <Flonne> ridiie, the installer will let you specify any partitions you want.
[08:01] <Flonne> ridiie, just make sure you opt to manually edit the partition table when prompted.  The installer will refer to it as hdb.
[08:03] <anna> and i'm wondering if anyone knows what kernel the basic "386" version is using?
[08:03] <Flonne> ridiie, also, make sure you've got a partition to use as swap.
[08:03] <Seveas> anna, linux-386 is the way to go
[08:03] <Seveas> basically they all install the same
[08:03] <anna> instead of the 2.6.10?
[08:04] <Seveas> but linux-386 is a package to keep your kernel current
[08:04] <anna> how come the 386 doesn't mention what kernel it's using?
[08:04] <anna> oh.
[08:04] <Flonne> anna, linux-<arch> is just a metapackage used to point to the most recentversion at all times.
[08:04] <anna> okay. thanks.
[08:04] <Seveas> linux-386 installs linux-2.6.10-5-386
[08:04] <Seveas> but if 2.6.12 comes available it will be upgraded
[08:04] <chicken_> Davey, I like ubuntu
[08:04] <Seveas> without linux-386 that eould not happen
[08:05] <anna> aha!
[08:05] <anna> great! thanks for the info.
[08:05] <chicken_> Davey, just not gnome or KDE i like Fluxbox because it's small and runs well on my slow computer
[08:05] <Seveas> orangey, still here?
[08:05] <anna> i wish it had been a bit more clear on that...
[08:05] <zwnj> my LAMP works well, but i php doesn't work on directory index file (i.e. it works for wiki/index.php but doesn't work for wiki/ )  what's the problem?
[08:05] <HappyFool> linux-386 also depends on the -restricted-modules package, which is helpful
[08:05] <ridiie> thanx Flonne.. btw... how do I "write" down the partition table?
[08:06] <riv> where is the wiki for adding universe to apt-get
[08:06] <Concord_Dawn> How can I set the $PATH variable?
[08:06] <HappyFool> zwnj: maybe tell apache to use index.php as the 'root' or 'default' file? i think it's usually index.html
[08:06] <Seveas> zwnj, add index.php to the DirectoryIndex directive (should be there though)
[08:06] <Flonne> ridiie, just look at it in your partition editor and write it down on a piece of paper. It'll help to have a list.
[08:06] <HappyFool> !repos
[08:06] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:06] <Seveas> zwnj, or look for other index.* files linke index.html
[08:06] <pax> actually a kernel security update just hit the streets 30 minutes ago, you want 2.6.10-34.4
[08:06] <riv> thank you!
[08:07] <anna> ridiie, i do that too. i have a notebook where i write all that sort of thing down.
[08:07] <Concord_Dawn> Seveas, how can I set $PATH?
[08:07] <zwnj> Seveas, HappyFool: it get index.php to me, but doesn't run php on it
[08:07] <Flonne> ridiie, "1: ext-3 (root), 2: reiserfs (data), 3: swap" or something.
[08:07] <Seveas> Concord_Dawn, export PATH=/something/to/add:$PATH
[08:07] <Seveas> zwnj, ah, you installed libapache2-mod-php4?
[08:07] <Concord_Dawn> so if I wanted to clear the $PATH, I'd do export PATH=:$PATH
[08:07] <zwnj> Seveas: yep
[08:08] <Concord_Dawn> Seveas, that right?
[08:08] <dabar> jaqkar: still here?
[08:08] <Seveas> zwnj, sudo a2enmod php
[08:08] <jaqkar> dabar: indeed
[08:08] <Seveas> zwnj, sudo a2enmod php4
[08:08] <zwnj> apache runs php4 on index.php or any other .php file, but doesn't do that for index files...
[08:08] <Seveas> hmm
[08:08] <Concord_Dawn> nvm Seveas
[08:08] <chicken_> I love apache :P
[08:08] <Concord_Dawn> got it to work.
[08:09] <Seveas> Concord_Dawn, clearing the path is a BAD idea
[08:09] <zwnj> Seveas: php in enabled
[08:09] <Concord_Dawn> Seveas, I'm not clearing it on my user.
[08:09] <anna> thanks folks! i really like ubuntu. i'm even liking Gnome!
[08:09] <dabar> jaqkar: cool. try this. backup your current interfaces file by doing sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_backup
[08:09] <anna> i used to prefer KDE but i've been really enjoying the new gnome
[08:09] <benplaut> !dev
[08:09] <ubotu> No idea, benplaut
[08:09] <benplaut> grr
[08:09] <dabar> then edit your interfaces to be http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1396 .
[08:10] <Kyral> GNOME 2.12 == teh sexy
[08:10] <chicken_> is there some thing that lets people connect to my computer with telnet and login as i don't like SSH
[08:10] <dabar> benplaut: is your nick registered?
[08:10] <benplaut> gnome 2.11.90= the r0xors
[08:10] <benplaut> dabar: it should be...
[08:10] <benplaut> yup, it is
[08:11] <Concord_Dawn> gnome is win
[08:11] <Kyral> GO GTK ATTACK!
[08:11] <Seveas> !start a desktop war
[08:11] <ubotu> e is much better than kde!
[08:11] <benplaut> just started with breezy last night :)
[08:11] <Kyral> lol
[08:11] <anna> and i've totally fallen in love with symantic package manager
[08:11] <Concord_Dawn> chicken_, telnet is insecure.
[08:11] <Flonne> Synaptic*
[08:11] <aru> Seveas: that was great :)
[08:11] <riv> where is the get-apt config file stored?
[08:11] <Concord_Dawn> !init
[08:11] <jaqkar> dabar: done
[08:11] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[08:11] <dabar> ok, benplaut, since you have been here for soooo long in the channel, and I always get annoyed with your attempts at talking to the bot in the channel: Please msg the bot. /msg ubotu whateveryuowanttoaskorfindoutwhetherafactoidexists
[08:11] <benplaut> riv: for what kind of config?
[08:11] <riv> I want to add universe
[08:11] <benplaut> dabar: soorry
[08:12] <riv> and I can't get into X
[08:12] <dabar> thats cool, just please do that.
[08:12] <Flonne> riv, you can add that through Synaptic.
[08:12] <Kyral> Is there a way to download all the packages you have installed on your system so you can burn them on a DVD?
[08:12] <Flonne> Ah.
[08:12] <chicken_> Concord_Dawn, i know but i don't like SSH
[08:12] <Concord_Dawn> well
[08:12] <Flonne> riv, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:12] <HappyFool> chicken_: 'apt-cache search telnetd'
[08:12] <HappyFool> !repos
[08:12] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:12] <anna> make sure you run synaptic as a user who has su privileges
[08:12] <riv> thanlk flonne
[08:12] <Flonne> riv, remember to run 'apt-get update' or 'aptitude update' after editing the file.
[08:12] <HappyFool> riv: the second list should have a complete version of /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:12] <HappyFool> second link, even
[08:13] <Concord_Dawn> Seveas, how can I start the sshd after it's crashed?
[08:13] <dabar> jaqkar: once you have that done. sudo ifdown eth0, then sudo ifup eth0, and then try getting a new IP in windows, and pinging www.google.com in a dos screen, ping www.google.com will do that.
[08:13] <dabar> save and exit out the file, off course.
[08:13] <Seveas> Concord_Dawn, /etc/init.d/ssh start
[08:13] <Kyral> note to self: Don't cat a binary file
[08:14] <jaqkar> dabar: oki brb
[08:14] <Concord_Dawn> thanks Seveas
[08:14] <dabar> k
[08:14] <chicken_> Kyral, LOL
[08:14] <jaqkar> dabar: does ipmasq need to be running
[08:14] <dark^ngel> LOL@Kyral
[08:14] <Kyral> but seriously, is there a way to download all the debs for the packages on my system?
[08:14] <Concord_Dawn> what's that do Kyral?
[08:14] <jaqkar> dabar: i was just cheking it out and then stopped it. ipmasq that it
[08:15] <Flonne> Kyral, do you just want to fetch everything you've got installed?
[08:15] <dabar> I am not sure what you want to say.
[08:15] <Kyral> Flonne, yah, the debs
[08:15] <Kyral> so I can burn them to a DVD
[08:15] <Concord_Dawn> apt-get <package>
[08:15] <Concord_Dawn> no install.
[08:15] <Concord_Dawn> afaik that should just place the .deb on your HDD.
[08:16] <Concord_Dawn> ARGH
[08:16] <Kyral> yah, but....wait...
[08:16] <Concord_Dawn> this server traceroutes me! =\
[08:16] <dark^ngel> apt-get instal -d <package_name>
[08:16] <Kyral> how do I grep all the packages that I have installed?
[08:16] <dark^ngel> errr
[08:16] <dark^ngel> apt-get install -d <package_name>
[08:16] <Kyral> I know there is a way
[08:17] <Concord_Dawn> dark^ngel, he's talking about a way to get a list of all installed packages.
[08:17] <jaqkar> dabar: i stopped ipmasq
[08:17] <Seveas> Kyral, dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[08:17] <jaqkar> dabar: does it need to run
[08:17] <dark^ngel> ls /var/cache/apt
[08:17] <Kyral> Seveas, what does that do again?
[08:17] <Kyral> lol
[08:17] <JHK> Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[08:18] <JHK> after a kernel update i recieved this
[08:18] <Kyral> wee
[08:18] <Seveas> Kyral, it displays the list of installed packages
[08:18] <dabar> yes
[08:18] <Kyral> now I just have to pipe that into a text file
[08:18] <dabar> sudo invoke-rc.d ipmasq start
[08:18] <Kyral> so
[08:18] <Kyral> dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall >> packagelist
[08:18] <anna> okay - i have one more silly question...
[08:18] <aru> System > Administration > Synaptic - then click Status and installed... that will show you all installed packages
[08:19] <dabar> yay, silly quesgtion
[08:19] <Seveas> and on another pc: dpkg --set-selections < packagelist
[08:19] <Kyral> Seveas, I'm just gonna fetch the packages :D
[08:19] <anna> if i installed the 2.10.5.... instead of just the default linux-386, can i fix it without re-doing the entire install?
[08:19] <Kyral> and burn them on a CD
[08:19] <riv> will video drivers for X be something I can get through get-apt?
[08:19] <dark^ngel> Synaptic? What's that?
[08:19] <anna> synaptic package manager rocks!
[08:19] <chicken_> aptitude is soooo much better than synaptic :P
[08:19] <aru> !Synaptic
[08:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:20] <Kyral> Whenever I need to restore from backup I will put the DVD in the drive, cd to it, and do a dpkg -i *.deb :D
[08:20] <dark^ngel> Oh ... we speak GUI here?
[08:20] <anna> some of us do
[08:20] <dabar> ya
[08:20] <Flonne> Kryal, gimme a moment to test something.
[08:20] <riv> I would nove to use Synamptic if I could get startx to work.
[08:20] <anna> i do both gui and command line... depending.
[08:20] <chicken_> !aptitude
[08:20] <ubotu> Wish i knew, chicken_
[08:20] <chicken_> damn silly bot
[08:20] <Kyral> pure apt > all
[08:20] <riv> lol
[08:20] <Kyral> no wait
[08:20] <anna> riv, have you tried CTRL ALT F7?
[08:20] <dark^ngel> Yeh, pax, I'm using GUI
[08:20] <riv> yes
[08:20] <Kyral> Apt + Bash Aliases > ALL
[08:20] <dabar> haha, chicken_...there is your sooo myuch better.
[08:21] <riv> anna: I have and the screen is just black.
[08:21] <anna> i was having troulbe with it not going to the x window... but that did it.
[08:21] <anna> oh. oh well.
[08:21] <riv> it's a video driver problem
[08:21] <dark^ngel> This is only my second day with rodent-in-command
[08:21] <riv> need to find the driver ...
[08:21] <chicken_> any one know a good file browser that don't need Gnome or KDE ?
[08:21] <anna> riv: icky. sorry to hear that.
[08:21] <riv> !drivers
[08:21] <ubotu> [drivers]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto
[08:22] <riv> !video drivers
[08:22] <ubotu> riv: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[08:22] <funkyHat> chicken_, what WM are you using?
[08:22] <dabar> !msg the bot
[08:22] <ubotu> hmm... msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. dont annoy dabaR
[08:22] <chicken_> funkyHat, errrm fluxbox
[08:22] <riv> roger that dabar
[08:23] <zerboxx> chicken_: You can still use nautilus (found that out myself) by using nautlius --no-desktop
[08:23] <_rolando> how come mplayer isnt in any reposotiry?
[08:23] <anna> so - anyone know if i can get the automagical updating linux-386 on my system without overwriting everything?
[08:23] <chicken_> funkyHat, but i don't have Gnome installed :-P
[08:23] <_rolando> no se
[08:24] <Seveas> _rolando, it's in multivere
[08:24] <dark^ngel> bbiab
[08:24] <Seveas> chicken_, this is not the place for desktop wars...
[08:24] <funkyHat> chicken_, firefox doesn't seem to depend on gnome
[08:24] <_rolando> Seveas: but ive selected all from synaptic
[08:24] <Seveas> _rolando, by default it's not in sources.list
[08:24] <zerboxx> chicken_: Ah well in that case, rox is a good choice, I had that before I found I could still use nautilus
[08:24] <Seveas> !repos
[08:24] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:24] <Seveas> ^-- _rolando
[08:24] <Flonne> Kyral, aptitude download `dpkg --get-selections | awk '{if ($2=="install"){print $1}}'` should do it.
[08:24] <apjone> hey ppl
[08:25] <anna> i'm currently installing ubunt on my DH's new laptop. but i already have it installed on mine
[08:25] <_rolando> ok thanx
[08:25] <Seveas> Flonne, grep -v deinstall
[08:25] <Seveas> :)
[08:25] <anna> and i want to fix it to the "linux-386" kernel
[08:25] <HappyFool> Seveas: how about adding '## this file is /etc/apt/sources.list' to the top of http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 ?
[08:25] <jaqkar> dabar: windows got the ip, but i cannot ping anything
[08:25] <anna> cuz when i did it, i selected the linux-386-2.10.5....
[08:26] <benplaut> where are cursors stored?
[08:26] <Flonne> I forgot about -v... but you;d still need to filter the columns.
[08:26] <dabar> jaqkar: and you sudo ifdown eth0 and then up?
[08:26] <_rolando> no se
[08:26] <jaqkar> yes
[08:26] <HappyFool> anna: you can just install the linux-386 package; it should be on the CD, or you can install it from the internet
[08:26] <apjone> any one know of a gud vpn client?
[08:27] <Seveas> Flonne, cut -f 1 -d ' '
[08:27] <dabar> jaqkar: tell me the 3 IPs again for the windows, linux, and router.
[08:27] <anna> HappyFool: so it should be on symantic?
[08:27] <Seveas> but dpkg --set-selections wants the complete output :)
[08:27] <setite> au revoir my friends... i will be going back to windows
[08:27] <HappyFool> anna: in synaptic, yes
[08:27] <Flonne> I like awk. =P
[08:27] <anna> i see "autoinstall-i386" as well as "linux-386"
[08:27] <jaqkar> dabar: router><IP_ADDRESS> win><IP_ADDRESS> ubuntu><IP_ADDRESS>
[08:28] <anna> which one do i want? (or both?)
[08:28] <dabar> aha
[08:28] <HappyFool> anna: i don't know what autoinstall-386 is.
[08:28] <Seveas> !info autoinstall-i386
[08:28] <ubotu> autoinstall-i386: (Debian auto-installation system - i386-specific files), section universe/admin, is extra. Version: 1.13 (hoary), Packaged size: 948 kB, Installed size: 1036 kB
[08:28] <anna> okay. i'm just going with the linux-386 one...
[08:28] <Seveas> it's something completely different :)
[08:28] <dabar> and your /etc/network/interfaces looks like what? paste, please.
[08:28] <HappyFool> anna: i don't think you need it
[08:28] <Flonne> Seveas, I've been using awk for the past six years. Its not an easy  habit to break. :)
[08:28] <Flonne> It's*
[08:28] <Arnia> Ok. I have just installed Breezy so I can begin moving my code to some new APIs. However, many library -dev versions threaten to remove ubuntu-desktop when I mark them. What's up with that?
[08:28] <anna> okay. np. thanks folks.
[08:29] <mz2> is there some clean way of changing things in /etc/alternatives except for changing symlinks by myself?
[08:29] <anna> oh - one more question...
[08:29] <jmhodges> anyone gotten one of the WEP-able ipw2100 drivers to build?
[08:29] <apjone> hi does any one know of a good vpn client
[08:29] <jmhodges> i'm getting make errors that does not actually give any reasons
[08:29] <anna> if i downloaded everything to the hard drive (as suggested during the install) why do i have to put in the disk?
[08:29] <Kyral> hmm
[08:30] <jmhodges> i'm following the ipw2200+WPA HOWTO
[08:30] <jaqkar> dabar: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1398
[08:30] <apjone> anna , so u dont have to d/l it again
[08:30] <jmhodges> er.. i meant WPA-able ipw2100
[08:30] <Kyral> how would I take a list that is separated by lines
[08:30] <dabar> you didnt change it at all.
[08:30] <Kyral> and replace the line breaks with spaces
[08:30] <anna> i already d/l it. why can't i just use the d/l version?
[08:30] <dabar> we need it different.
[08:30] <HappyFool> anna: i think if it's on the CD, maybe it uses different rules
[08:30] <Flonne> Kyral, sed should be able to do that.
[08:30] <HappyFool> anna: but i'm not sure
[08:30] <dabar> ill prepare one for you.
[08:30] <Kyral> Note to self, learn to use sed and grep
[08:30] <dabar> have you backed this one up, jaqkar?
[08:30] <jaqkar> dabar: change what?
[08:30] <dabar> the interfaces file.
[08:31] <jaqkar> dabar: yes as you said
[08:31] <chicken_> i need a file browser with a GUI
[08:31] <jaqkar> dabar: no i didnt change it
[08:31] <Kyral> chicken_, Nautilus
[08:31] <jaqkar> dabar: what do i need to change in it?
[08:31] <Concord_Dawn> if I have chroot'd a user, and I symlink to a directory (say /var/www), will that user be able to access that directory or will it just return a 'no such directory' error?
[08:32] <_rolando> ok i dont want to edit any file, i just want to add them with synaptic, is there anywhere explaining that?
[08:32] <dabar> jaqkar: sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_works
[08:32] <apjone> Dawn sud work
[08:32] <Kyral> Flonne, I don't know how to work sed :(
[08:32] <chicken_> can i some thing thats not Gnome please
[08:32] <dabar> jaqkar: make your interfaces as so then: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1399 .
[08:32] <_rolando> what does universe multiverse mean?
[08:32] <Concord_Dawn> apjone, please use proper english next time, I almost thought you weren't talking to me :-
[08:32] <Concord_Dawn> :-P*
[08:32] <jaqkar> dabar: i already made a backup
[08:32] <dabar> hey
[08:32] <_rolando> those cant be part of the url
[08:32] <dabar> jaqkar: not as shown in that pastebin exactly.
[08:32] <Concord_Dawn> _rolando, that's the name of the repository.
[08:33] <dabar> change the broadcast to 1.255, instead of 0.255
[08:33] <chicken_> i need a file browser thats not KDE or Gnome
[08:33] <dabar> then down, up, try again.
[08:33] <HappyFool> chicken_: mc
[08:33] <apjone> sorry Concord , i do everything short hand
[08:33] <_rolando> Concord_Dawn: what if it has both:universe multiverse?
[08:33] <mz2> oh right, an answer to my own question is update-alternatives
[08:34] <mz2> man -k is my friend :)
[08:34] <HappyFool> universe and multiverse are distinct; universe contains free software not supported by ubuntu; multiverse contains 'non-free' (ito licensing) software also not supported
[08:34] <chicken_> HappyFool, errrm ?
[08:34] <jedix> does anyone know of a howto to get 32bit games running on a 64bit ubuntu?
[08:34] <xiximkopp> hello, i have some problems with international keys (in X) with Breezy
[08:34] <HappyFool> !info mc
[08:34] <ubotu> mc: (Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre1-3ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1912 kB, Installed size: 5340 kB
[08:34] <_rolando> ok
[08:34] <mz2> i wonder if there's a way to get rid of the "Translate this application..." menu item in all apps
[08:35] <setite> jedix yea
[08:35] <HappyFool> mc is text mode, but you might like it
[08:35] <jedix> setite: is it best to just reinstall ubuntu32?  I'm planning to buy HL2 today, and transgaming
[08:35] <jaqkar> dabar: oki done and if down/up
[08:35] <xiximkopp> i'm not sure if i did something wrong or not... is xkb curently broken??
[08:35] <jedix> setite: have a url for the howto?
[08:35] <dabar> good
[08:35] <dabar> try getting a new IP, and then pinging.
[08:36] <Seveas> xiximkopp, http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-August/009421.html
[08:36] <dark^ngel> are there any openssl gurus here?
[08:36] <jaqkar> dabar: just did a release and renew, ping doesnt work
[08:36] <faen> dark^ngel, not really but whats up?
[08:36] <anna> um. where should i point apt to use the ubuntu archive?
[08:37] <Seveas> dark^ngel, I know a bit about it
[08:37] <HappyFool> !repos
[08:37] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:37] <dark^ngel> I can get my self-signed certs to work from apache2 script, but I'm trying to establish as a root CA
[08:37] <anna> i'm installing on my sweetie's machine
[08:37] <HappyFool> anna: read the links ubotu just posted
[08:37] <anna> great
[08:37] <anna> thanks
[08:37] <dark^ngel> the root CA gives everything but Lynx a bad case of diarrhea
[08:37] <riv> how do I use apt-get to find new video drivers?
[08:37] <xiximkopp> Seveas, thank you very much!
[08:38] <faen> dark^ngel, do you have openssl-devel?
[08:38] <jedix> you still there?
[08:38] <setite> jedix: took me awhile to find it
[08:38] <setite> jedix: http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[08:38] <darkheart> faen sudo seems to have some issues with echo
[08:38] <jedix> setite: thanks
[08:38] <Seveas> dark^ngel, http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_faq.html#ToC29
[08:38] <dark^ngel> no, do I need devel to do the root cert?
[08:38] <setite> good luck with it
[08:38] <setite> im done with ubuntu
[08:38] <anabatic> does the same here faen just need to manually sudo it and all is fine
[08:38] <Seveas> dark^ngel, no you don't
[08:38] <faen> dark^ngel, I would imagine so
[08:38] <Seveas> you just need the openssl package
[08:38] <setite> just not worth it... at least not for what i need
[08:38] <dabar> jaqkar: Im gonna think on it for a while.
[08:39] <_rolando> what i want is nested menus
[08:39] <dark^ngel> I get replies that say first certificate is not locatable
[08:39] <jaqkar> dabar: did i need to do anything with ipmasq?
[08:39] <_rolando> how can i have that?
[08:39] <faen> anabatic, what is the other method?
[08:39] <dabar> did you start it?
[08:39] <Seveas> dark^ngel, read that faqpage I gave you
[08:39] <HappyFool> faen: i think you can try 'echo <blah> | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:39] <faen> err, syntax
[08:39] <Seveas> ik explains it all
[08:39] <xiximkopp> i'm gonna check if it worked
[08:39] <xsadikx> hi!
[08:39] <faen> HappyFool, thanks, will give it a shot
[08:39] <HappyFool> riv: what video driver are you looking for?
[08:40] <dabar> jaqkar: did you start it?
[08:40] <jaqkar> dabar: yes its started
[08:40] <dark^ngel> Seveas: I'm wading
[08:40] <xsadikx> i just installed Skype and it works great but the gui is pretty fudged up.. bold letters and stuff and the windows moves pretty slow.. am i missing something?
[08:42] <faen> odd
[08:42] <faen> have any of you added nooms repository?
[08:42] <mz2> xsadikx, install qtconfig, kcontrol and some nice kde themes (such as lipstik) and then change the theme in qtconfig to that. alternatively just do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to get all of KDE. Skype uses QT as its UI toolkit
[08:42] <dark^ngel> Seveas: I created a script, previously that automates all of those steps. The certs are created, but none of the clients are given an opportunity to accept my server's reply
[08:42] <gmoore> mz2, if you get kubuntu can you switch back and forth between gnome and kde
[08:42] <Velox> Hullo, I'm having trouble getting Ubuntu to load after install...basically what I'm doing is dual-booting my system with two HDDs, a 120gb SATA drive which is Windows/NTFS which I don't touch. The other a 40gb IDE drive which I installed Ubuntu onto. When the install was complete I installed GRUB to the MBR, then in my bios I switched my primary drive to the 40gb drive so that it would use GRUB as the bootloader, however it just sits there with a blink
[08:42] <dabar> well... sudo gedit /etc/ipmasq/rules/Z99dhcpd.rul and paste this into it. http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1400
[08:42] <xsadikx> ok mz2
[08:43] <mz2> gmoore, yes, and as far as i remember it doesn't change your default environment
[08:43] <jedix> setite: do you know how to get doom3 to run on amd64?
[08:43] <anna> okay folks - i'm outta here. thanks a bunch!
[08:43] <ninjafish> hi, can anyone reccomend a decent 20gig+ portable mp3 player that I can use with linux (i.e. no silly drivers needed, just appears as a hard drive)
[08:43] <darkheart> Velox Any text appear?
[08:43] <chicken_> what is the mozilla firefox package name ?
[08:43] <HappyFool> Velox: you probably need to reinstall grub; grub is probably looking on the 'second' hard-drive for boot info
[08:43] <jedix> chicken_: apt-cache search firefox
[08:43] <Velox> darkheart: No, just a blinking underscore.
[08:44] <HappyFool> Velox: but you changed the driver ordering, i guess, by changing bios settings
[08:44] <dabar> jaqkar: ^ save it close it, restart ipmasq, and then try again.
[08:44] <Velox> HappyFool: I installed GRUB to the second drive's MBR then switched the BIOS boot drive to the second drive so it would load GRUB
[08:44] <darkheart> Velox If you wrote GRUB to the MBR when you installed it, it's gonna be on the other HDD isn't it? Why did you change? Only other thing I can think of is check the jumper settings on your IDE drive.
[08:44] <xiximkopp> wow! the @, ?, ~, | and the umlauts work again! it was quite nerve-racking to fire up gucharmap every time i needed an @. thanks agai
[08:45] <xiximkopp> n
[08:45] <HappyFool> Velox: i'm guessing grub thinks the drive it's on is "hd0", but has been installed to look on hd1 for it's boot info (menu.lst etc)
[08:45] <setite> how do i kill the ubuntu firewall
[08:45] <faen> drats
[08:45] <Velox> Hmm...I posted my menu.lst in the pastebin.
[08:45] <aru> setite: use a knife...
[08:45] <setite> jedix: not sure... google it.. im sure there is a tutorial
[08:45] <jedix> does anyone know how to get doom3 to run on 64bit ubuntu?
[08:45] <jedix> setite: okay
[08:46] <HappyFool> Velox: if i'm right, grub can't find that file
[08:46] <setite> seriously i need to figure it out... azureus functions bad
[08:46] <dabar> aru:)
[08:46] <aru> sorry, I couldn't resist :)
[08:46] <dabar> setite: what firewall did you install?
[08:46] <mz2> is there a keyb shortcut for opening the next level in the flashy new list view in Nautilus
[08:46] <setite> none.. but i heard in here that ubuntu has some sort of firewall like thing installed
[08:46] <benplaut> mz2: i think it's ctrl+click
[08:46] <setite> i want to be open like an amsterdam prostitute... no limits
[08:47] <benplaut> or some modifier+click
[08:47] <aru> hah
[08:47] <mz2> as in ctrl+click or so on the folder (none of the obvious ctrl, alt, or shift seem to do it)
[08:47] <Velox> HappyFool: should I install GRUB to a floppy, then update the menu.lst to read hd1 after I get in Ubuntu?
[08:47] <darkheart> setite Yeah, it's built into the kernel and it's called 'iptables' Try 'iptables --flush' to remove all the rules.
[08:47] <mz2> benplaut, nope
[08:47] <dabar> setite: it is open, then.
[08:47] <HappyFool> Velox: well, no just that; you also need to run 'grub-install' somehow
[08:47] <mz2> i meant in the similar way as if i clicked on the arrow on the left to sort of open it up in the same view without actually "going" to the folder
[08:47] <HappyFool> !grub
[08:47] <ubotu> hmm... grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:47] <HappyFool> Velox: those links might help a bit
[08:47] <anabatic> anyone know of a newsreader with .nzb support for ubuntu ?
[08:47] <jaqkar> dabar: tried it, still cant ping
[08:47] <setite> ok because when i run azureus i get uPnP error and something else... and a listen of 6881 had a NAT error
[08:48] <dabar> can you ping the ubuntu box?
[08:48] <riv> Video Drivers.
[08:48] <riv> for laptops
[08:48] <Velox> I'll take a look. Ubuntu install detected my SATA drive however...
[08:48] <jaqkar> dabar: yes
[08:48] <HappyFool> !ati
[08:48] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:48] <HappyFool> !nvidia
[08:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[08:48] <riv> !intel
[08:48] <ubotu> riv: Are you on ritalin?
[08:49] <riv> yes
[08:49] <HappyFool> riv: you can look at those links for nvidia/ati; i'm don't know what you can do for other hardware
[08:49] <riv> actually I am
[08:49] <aru> heh
[08:49] <dabar> jaqkar: oh, wow...
[08:49] <dabar> you can ping ubuntu from the windows?
[08:49] <jaqkar> dabar: ?
[08:50] <wickers> How's everyone today?
[08:50] <dabar> ping <IP_ADDRESS> works on windows?
[08:50] <riv> Sigh.  Are people answering my question and I'm just not getting it or is it that no one knows the answer?
[08:50] <jaqkar> dabar: yes i can and the router
[08:50] <gmoore> dabar: yes
[08:50] <dabar> gmoore: no.
[08:50] <jaqkar> dabar: yes it does
[08:50] <Seveas> riv, what's the question?
[08:50] <gmoore> dabar: butts
[08:50] <riv> I can't get into xwindows on my laptop
[08:50] <gmoore> anyone know of a good ruby ide?
[08:50] <riv> The question is why?
[08:50] <dabar> gmoore: did you have a message for me?
[08:51] <zerboxx> wickers: I'm pretty good, thanks (Yourself?) trying to get a script working in fvwm, but I have no idea how :)
[08:51] <setite> dabar?
[08:51] <chicken_> riv, startx
[08:51] <setite> having NAT errors
[08:51] <riv> chicken_: black screen.
[08:51] <setite> whats that abotu
[08:51] <dabar> what now setite? are you all weird?
[08:51] <dabar> or is my IRC client sending you weird messages?
[08:51] <setite> i thought you were talking to me about pinging
[08:51] <darkheart> gmoore Isn't rails an IDE for ruby?
[08:51] <dabar> setite: no.
[08:51] <tristanmike> I'm in unfamiliar territory with laptops and I REALLY want to get one but I don't know where to start. Does anyone wanna have a chat about my options/
[08:51] <dabar> jaqkar:  even pinging the router, <IP_ADDRESS> works?
[08:51] <chicken_> riv, startx <program>  put the location of a program in like /usr/bin/gaim
[08:52] <setite> !ubuntuguide
[08:52] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[08:52] <jaqkar> dabar: you said i shouldnt laugh...
[08:52] <setite> wrong answer
[08:52] <dabar> hah.
[08:52] <jaqkar> dabar: yeah even pinging the router works
[08:52] <jaqkar> dabar: so its seems ubuntu isnt forwarding packets or natting or somethin
[08:53] <dabar> try pinging my router, then, jaqkar. <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:53] <Flonne> Kyral, sorry it took so long -- I had to go AFK.
[08:53] <Flonne> Kyral, sed ':loop; $!N; s/\n/ /g; t loop' <file>
[08:53] <jaqkar> dabar: nope
[08:54] <riv> chicken_: black screen
[08:54] <marathonracer> hello together
[08:54] <firebird619> Hi, I am trying to put some photos onto a CD in Linux. It is a new blank CD and the capacity is 700 MB, however, when I try to burn the CD it says Reload Blank Disc Please replace the disc in the drive with a blank disc, with at least 682 MiB free. Can anyone help me solve this issue?
[08:54] <Flonne> Kyral, that should remove all new lines from a file and replace them with spaces.
[08:54] <dabar> doesnt work, eh....paste your interfaces file.
[08:54] <dabar> hey!!!
[08:54] <HappyFool> riv: you can look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for some error messages
[08:55] <anabatic> can someone help here with enlightenment e16 , having taskbar issues
[08:55] <dabar> sudo gedit /etc/network/options, change the first line no to a yes, jaqkar
[08:55] <darkheart> e16 has a taskbar?
[08:55] <anabatic> well a bar .
[08:55] <anabatic> dunno what elseto call it
[08:55] <darkheart> anabatic Which bar?
[08:55] <riv> HappyFool: Yes, I did that.  It doesn't like DRI
[08:55] <HappyFool> riv: you could perhaps try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to reconfigure your X settings
[08:56] <darkheart> anabatic Oh yeah..that thing at the top?
[08:56] <WhyvasMCT> anyone know of a fast mirror for breezy?
[08:56] <riv> HappyFool: what settings would you suggest?
[08:56] <HappyFool> riv: um. i think it tries to detect your hardware etc
[08:56] <riv> yes... but that didn't work.
[08:56] <HappyFool> riv: otherwise, choose conservative settings
[08:57] <riv> such as?
[08:57] <HappyFool> such as lesser video resolutions
[08:57] <darkheart> anabatic Hide it? Just make it go away?
[08:57] <HappyFool> i'm afraid i haven't run the configure for a while, i've forgotten the choices
[08:57] <chicken_> riv, did it work ?
[08:58] <riv> chicken_: did what work?
[08:58] <dabar> jaqkar: what did you do, did you change that options file?
[08:58] <Carolyn> Hey guys
[08:58] <dabar> hey carlyn
[08:58] <dabar> Carolyn:
[08:58] <riv> chicken_: the answer is probably no, but I want to be sure.
[08:58] <jaqkar> dabar: yes
[08:58] <Carolyn> I have a question: the program Totem won't play my music I am running on the LIve Ubuntu disc
[08:58] <jaqkar> dabar: gimmi 5min's
[08:58] <dabar> yup
[08:59] <HappyFool> riv: do you know what hardware you have? maybe googling for it + ubuntu, or linux will help.
[08:59] <Carolyn> is there a newer version of totem? or can I get away with downloading Winamp?
[08:59] <Carolyn> but other then that how are you guys doin?
[08:59] <dabar> can they install the codecs in the live cd?
[09:00] <badbean> o_o"
[09:00] <Carolyn> I'm not too sure... I am sure I can download a new version