[12:17] <Inter--> the boring part is that Kopete doesnt work either.
[12:18] <dwidmann> Pete__: why not just remove it? (with dpkg --purge msttcorefonts, of course)
[12:18] <Pete__> sorry, im transitioning from the rpm world ;)
[12:19] <dwidmann> Pete__: no problem
[12:19] <Pete__> Im sure I don't need msttcorefonts for mythtv-frontend..
[12:19] <dwidmann> Pete__: truth be told, I actually run debian anymore ... I just like hanging out here
[12:20] <Pete__> Fair enough
[12:21] <Pete__> I'd like a way to know its not going to come back though, I don't like the idea of having ms fonts installed
[12:23] <paolo> Hi. In kernel's drivers folder for usb-videocam (http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/lxr/source/drivers/media/video/usbvideo/ ) I see ibmcam.c, konicawc.c, ultracam.c and usbvideo.c . Does it mean that only ibm, konicawc and ultracam usb cameras are supported?
[12:24] <dwidmann> Pete__: I don't think it would have installed itself ... wouldn't you have had to put it there yourself? (somehow or another, or a script or program you used did ...)
[12:26] <dwidmann> paolo: for cameras, at any rate, a lot of them are supported generically, with something like USB mass storage or the like
[12:27] <Pete__> dwidmann: yeh, I ran apt-get install mythtv-frontend
[12:27] <Pete__> but I've used mythtv before with out having to install those fonts
[12:27] <paolo> dwidmann: ok, so, in this case, which is the related driver?
[12:28] <dwidmann> paolo: in that case that it's supported with usb mass storage or similar, you wouldn't need to install any driver
[12:28] <mat1980> italian
[12:28] <dwidmann> my usb camera is supported in that nature ... out of the box : )
[12:29] <Pete__> I better go now anyway, maybe I can figure out something tomorrow :)
[12:29] <dwidmann> Pete__: mythtv-frontend itself doesn't depend on msttcorefonts, maybe one of its depends does
[12:29] <paolo> dwidmann: ok, but in which .c file I find the ioctl function for a generic usb camera?
[12:30] <dwidmann> paolo: I've no idea
[12:30] <paolo> ok thnks anyway
[12:32] <adriana10> hola
[12:33] <dwidmann> adriana10: hello
[12:33] <adriana10> hi
[12:34] <adriana10> sabes donde puedo descargar automatix?
[12:34] <LjL> adriana10: no
[12:34] <adriana10> uffff
[12:34] <LjL> adriana10: pero s que automatix es bastante mala.
[12:34] <LjL> !automatix
[12:34] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:34] <LjL> y s que es #ubuntu-es el canal para espaol ;)
[12:35] <adriana10> gracias
[12:38] <sidd_> I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 and I get this problem everytime I try to run a particular program: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18696/ . Any suggestions?
[12:39] <Adriland> Hello
[12:40] <Adriland> I would like to know how to install a printer ?
[12:40] <dwidmann> Adriland: more than likely depends on the printer
[12:40] <Adriland> It's an epson
[12:40] <Adriland> CX6400
[12:42] <dwidmann> Adriland: I don't even have a printer, so I'm not the best person to ask, check http://wiki.kubuntu.org
[12:42] <dwidmann> search for printer, bound to be something on it
[12:42] <Adriland> yes I did it but it only explain for gnome interface
[12:43] <_4str1> Adriland: did you try with HPLIP toolbox ?
[12:43] <Adriland> yes but I didn't uncerstant
[12:44] <Adriland> understand
[12:45] <_4strO> Adriland: je suis sur #kubuntu-fr
[12:45] <ubuntu_> do the latest automatix version run on kubuntu7-amd64(flash plugin)
[12:45] <ubuntu_> ?
[12:45] <_4strO> dont ask it here :p
[12:45] <_4strO> !automatix
[12:45] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:46] <sidd_> I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 and I get this problem everytime I try to run a particular program: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18696/ . Any suggestions?
[12:47] <dwidmann> ubuntu_: don't know about automatix, but if it's flash you're looking for my script ( http://www.xnowherex.net/simple64 ) can take care of it
[12:48] <meuhlol> Hi everybody
[12:49] <pablo_> hola alguien habla espaol?
[12:50] <dwidmann> sidd_: I've never seen anything like that before, that's a weird one
[12:50] <pablo_> Hola alguien que me pueda ayudar con una webcam
[12:51] <sidd_> dwidmann: It baffled me as well. It's in the kde mailing list but I can't make sense of it
[12:52] <wsjunior> is anybody having problems with kopete transfering images?!
[12:53] <dwidmann> wsjunior: as in the little avatar images, or using send file?
[12:53] <sam_> hi .. does anyone know how to change the colour of the background of the cube in beryl?
[12:54] <dwidmann> !es | pablo
[12:54] <ubotu> pablo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:54] <dwidmann> !es | pablo_
[12:54] <ubotu> pablo_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:54] <xerosis> wsjunior: it's a bug in kopete, i get it for all files
[12:54] <wsjunior> dwidmann: sending files
[12:55] <wsjunior> xerosis: ya, now i discoverd it happens to all kind of files..
[12:55] <dwidmann> wsjunior: what message protocol?
[12:55] <wsjunior> dwidmann: msn
[12:55] <markelhas> hi ppl, need some help with my kubuntu config. I've some problems with torrents, cause my upload speed is very very slow.
[12:56] <dwidmann> mmhm ... it's probably protocol specific too. Kopete has always been a bit shotty when it comes to file transfers in my experience
[12:56] <markelhas> and when i use the same torrent in my xp it's just fine the upload speed
[12:56] <markelhas> any tips for this!?
[12:56] <Gamic> Here, at least, kopete is working fine with sending files over msn
[12:56] <sidd_> dwidmann: It baffled me as well. It's in the kde mailing list but I can't make sense of it
[12:56] <sidd_> I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 and I get this problem everytime I try to run a particular program: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18696/ . Any suggestions?
[12:57] <Gamic> Markelhas: Are you using a router, and have you forwarded the ports KTorrent is using from the router to your computer?
[12:57] <_4strO> sidd_: if you give the program name it will help ...
[12:57] <wsjunior> dwidmann: odd that it just happen for some users
[12:57] <markelhas> Gamic: i've used Ktorrent and utorrent (wine), the ports in the router are set.
[12:58] <sidd_> _4str0: It's a program calle openkiosk that is used for kiosk management. http;//openkiosk.soureceforge.net
[12:58] <sidd_>  http://openkiosk.soureceforge.net
[12:58] <_4strO> sidd_: I know it :)
[12:58] <markelhas> Gamic: ithis speed problem started when i update to 7.04 i think.
[12:58] <wsjunior> dwidmann: im not able to send files to another person using kopete or amsn but it works for msn users
[12:58] <sidd_> _4str0: Have you used it?
[12:59] <markelhas> Gamic: but i realized only now, because of my low racio in a private tracker
[12:59] <dwidmann> wsjunior: yeah, but sending and receiving have always been two seperate beasts AFAIK
[12:59] <_4strO> sidd_: not me but a friend
[12:59] <sidd_> _4str0: Ah...So what is the cause of this problem?
[12:59] <_4strO> we made the www.opensource-cafe.fr
[12:59] <markelhas> Gamic: to get my good racio i've to upload via xp :(
[01:00] <sidd_> _4str0: So you are the perfect person to dispense advice to me!! :)
[01:00] <Gamic> markelhas: I can't think what the problem is there, sorry
[01:00] <_4strO> sidd_: when have you got the error message ?
[01:00] <sidd_> _4str0: When I tried running kiosksetup in the terminal
[01:01] <_4strO> is openkiosk installed on your server ?
[01:01] <sidd_> Indeed
[01:01] <markelhas> Gamic: i really don't see where is the problem to. maybe the 7.04 problem on my desktop don't no
[01:01] <stoft> markelhas: just a guess here, but sounds like BT thinks it's behind a firewall and thus upload is slow. if you can open up a few ports it might work better.
[01:01] <sidd_> _4str0: I can run kiosklock with the necessary options and it works fine
[01:02] <Gamic> markelhas: You could double check that KTorrent doesn't have a limit on its Share Ratio as well
[01:02] <markelhas> stoft: i've open several port's on my router just in case, disable every firewall, and nothing :( getting crazy with this!
[01:03] <markelhas> Gamic: i've looked for every config in the client and test diferrent client :|
[01:03] <markelhas> And if a google for a specif torrent to ddl the download speed is just fine
[01:04] <Gamic> markelhas: could you send an email to yourself with a large attachment (say 500kb or so), to see how long that takes to upload?
[01:04] <markelhas> Gamic: ok going to try
[01:04] <sidd_> _4str0: Any ideas?
[01:05] <stoft> markelhas: you sure? not sure what the default configuration for iptables on kubuntu is
[01:06] <dwidmann> which reminds me seeing as I just set everything up I need to reset up guarddog ...
[01:06] <_4strO> sidd_: nop
[01:06] <markelhas> stoft: i didn't look to the iptable cause i don't now how to
[01:07] <_4strO> just dont understand the exact pb, u said everything works fine :p
[01:07] <kkerwin> Hi, I'm having problems getting my fglrx card to work. Here is a link to my Xorg.0.log: http://rafb.net/p/0vtArJ18.html and then one to my xorg.conf file: http://rafb.net/p/VrkQ3i33.html
[01:07] <LHoT> can anyone help me with beryl? its IRC channel in dead
[01:07] <LHoT> is*
[01:08] <stoft> !firestarter
[01:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:08] <stoft> markelhas: firestarter provides a gui for manipulating iptables.
[01:09] <yeti> what am i missing in my kernel config if it's complaining about device-mapper errors?
[01:09] <stoft> markelhas: that's probably your safest bet. if iptables is the source of your problem.
[01:09] <markelhas> stoft: i've that one and i've open several ports on it to
[01:09] <markelhas> stoft: but now i've disable it
[01:10] <_4strO> kkerwin: whats wrong ?
[01:10] <stoft> markelhas: disabled how?
[01:10] <LHoT> anyone?
[01:10] <markelhas> stoft: close the program
[01:10] <_4strO> !ask | LHoT
[01:10] <ubotu> LHoT: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:10] <kkerwin> _4strO: When running glxgears to test 3D, I get a: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:11] <LHoT> Alrighty then...
[01:11] <kkerwin> _4strO: Then, refer to my posted Xorg.0.log for more.
[01:11] <markelhas> stoft: is there problem in firestarter config?
[01:11] <stoft> markelhas: afaik that doesn't disable, it's just a GUI
[01:11] <LHoT> every time I try to start beryl as my window manager, it quits to Kwin
[01:11] <LHoT> any help?
[01:11] <stoft> markelhas: I would open firestarter and add an inbound traffic policy
[01:11] <markelhas> stoft: ok then
[01:11] <_4strO> LHoT: perhaps :p
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> LHoT: are you using a card that can do direct rendering?
[01:12] <LHoT> yes
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> if so, are you using the proper drivers for that card?
[01:12] <stoft> markelhas: open?
[01:12] <kkerwin> _4strO: Specifically line 743: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI
[01:12] <markelhas> stoft: and what about outbound?
[01:12] <_4strO> kkerwin: with fglrx driver the command is different it looks like fglrx...
[01:12] <LHoT> I think...
[01:13] <LHoT> let me check
[01:13] <stoft> markelhas: lets first look at your inbound
[01:13] <LHoT> I'm really new to Linux...
[01:13] <_4strO> !ati
[01:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:13] <kkerwin> _4strO: Checking ...
[01:14] <LHoT> thanks 4str0
[01:14] <markelhas> stoft: ok sorry, i've added now port the client
[01:14] <LHoT> meh
[01:14] <stoft> is it under "Allow service"?
[01:14] <_4strO> kkerwin: what does 'fglrxinfo' give you ?
[01:15] <LHoT> first, how do I set my default browser? I can't stand Konqueror
[01:15] <markelhas> stoft: yes and for everyone
[01:15] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido: has our friend Alberto Milone ported Envy for Feisty yet ...I know ppl frown on these windows like automatic install setups but "Envy" one worked well for me in edgy
[01:15] <stoft> ok
[01:15] <_4strO> LHoT: wich video card have you ?
[01:15] <dwidmann> lhot: systemsettings -> kde components -> web browser (or some such)
[01:15] <xerosis> wsjunior: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/79468
[01:15] <stoft> markelhas: and outbound, is it "permissive"?
[01:15] <mc__> hello! my system is english,but i would like to have german spell checking in kword. is this possbile?
[01:15] <markelhas> stoft: nop
[01:16] <kkerwin> _4strO: http://rafb.net/p/WbF5zQ32.html
[01:16] <stoft> markelhas: restrictive?
[01:16] <LHoT> its an ATI... not exactly sure what model...
[01:16] <markelhas> stoft: yes, cause last time i've test like that i think
[01:16] <kkerwin> LHoT: Are you refering to my issue? Radeon Mobility 9600
[01:16] <BloodyTux> hello
[01:16] <stoft> markelhas: if it's restrictive you have to add a policy to "Allow service"
[01:17] <LHoT> ...no
[01:17] <_4strO> kkerwin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:17] <_4strO> did have a look on this ?
[01:17] <jtt> BloodyTux, you are back
[01:18] <markelhas> stoft: ok i've added the client port
[01:18] <BloodyTux> uh huh
[01:18] <stoft> markelhas: now give it a try
[01:18] <Tired_> Do I need to do anything special for my Windows machine to recognize my Kubuntu machine via the computer name rather than the LAN ip?
[01:19] <_4strO> LHoT: type 'lspci | grep ATI' in a console and you will know wich card it is
[01:19] <markelhas> stoft: going to make some test, give me five
[01:19] <stoft> np
[01:19] <_4strO> Tired_: samba
[01:19] <LHoT> k
[01:19] <_4strO> on your linux
[01:19] <Tired_> samba is for more than just network shares?  its so I can access a webpage on my kubuntu box without having to type an IP
[01:20] <BloodyTux> so wasup?
[01:20] <_4strO> Tired_: samba is for sharing files or printer
[01:20] <wsjunior> xerosis: mine doesnt stop at 100% it stay at 0%
[01:20] <Tired_> so it won't do what I need?
[01:20] <BloodyTux> what can i use for a web server and how do i set my domain name to it
[01:20] <BloodyTux> ???
[01:20] <LeeJunFan> John Dong in here? If so - thanks for the updated ktorrent packages, it's really been crashing a lot for me - hope it won't any more.
[01:21] <Daisuke_Ido> well, if you want a webserver, apache's pretty nice
[01:21] <_4strO> Tired_: what are trying to do ? install a web server or just want dhare files ?
[01:21] <BloodyTux> yea
[01:21] <_4strO> share
[01:21] <BloodyTux> how do i use my domain name with it and like cpanel or another control panel
[01:21] <Tired_> i want to be able to type http:mykubuntuboxescomputername, rather than http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:22] <Daisuke_Ido> BloodyTux: i'm lost on that part of it :)
[01:22] <LHoT> Radeon Xpress 200M
[01:22] <_4strO> haaaaaa
[01:22] <Tired_> the IP works fine, just not the computer name
[01:22] <BloodyTux> .... :(
[01:22] <herr_tristan> Tired_: You should add it to windows hosts file
[01:22] <BloodyTux> i bought a domain and now i want to turn it into a school project but i need a domain to make it
[01:22] <Tired_> oh.  never thought of that...thanks  :)
[01:23] <BloodyTux> i don't want to have to type http://53409534e56.3573456.243532.12351
[01:23] <BloodyTux> just to get to it
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> herr_tristan: how well will that work if his linux box has a dynamic ip?
[01:23] <Tired_> Daisuke_Ido: I don't
[01:23] <Tired_> :)
[01:23] <LHoT> My card is a Radeon Xpress 200M
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> well then
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> carry on
[01:23] <_4strO> Tired_: look for a file names lmhost on your windows
[01:24] <Tired_> oh, I know how, I just hadn't thought of that
[01:24] <herr_tristan> Daisuke_Ido: but why dynamic? It's local IP, so it's no reason to have it dynamic
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> herr_tristan: i know that and you know that.  most people with $40 linksys routers don't know that.
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> BloodyTux: go to dyndns.org
[01:25] <Tired_> Mine's a $30 D-Link, probably why I knew that  ;)
[01:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Tired_: i said most :P
[01:25] <_4strO> Tired_: sorry it's just host /windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
[01:25] <Tired_> i'm just teasing...i'm pretty happy now that Synergy works, it means I have now officially figured out how to do everything in Kubuntu that I used to use Windows for.
[01:26] <Tired_> in less than 2 weeks
[01:26] <BloodyTux> daisuke_ido: yea my budget is $0.00 since i got my new ps2 games and ddr pads and mics, and my gaming router...
[01:26] <kkerwin> _4strO: Rebooting. Will be back. Thanks again.
[01:26] <LHoT> _4str0: Radeon Xpress 200M
[01:26] <_4strO> no pb ;)
[01:27] <_4strO> LHoT: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[01:27] <LHoT> sure
[01:28] <_4strO> !paste | LHoT
[01:28] <ubotu> LHoT: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:28] <BloodyTux> i didn't know they had a windows irc on freenode
[01:28] <BloodyTux> >:)
[01:28] <markelhas> stoft: i've tested the same torrent, same tracker, for five min, 1st in kubuntu box, 0,2 k/s uploading, 2nd in xp and got 30 kb/s upload.
[01:29] <markelhas> stoft: *0,2kb/s
[01:29] <stoft> markelhas: which bt client? ktorrent?
[01:29] <LHoT> sorry... how do I get that info?
[01:30] <markelhas> stoft: i've tested in utorrent with wine, i've always used this one
[01:30] <_4strO> LHoT: kate /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[01:30] <LHoT> thanks
[01:30] <_4strO> LHoT: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:31] <stoft> markelhas: I suggest you try with one of the native clients e.g. ktorrent, bittorrent, bittornado, azureus or qtorrent.
[01:31] <markelhas> stoft: ok i can use ktorrent i've installed
[01:31] <stoft> markelhas: try "apt-cache search torrent" in a console and you'll see some alternatives
[01:32] <_4strO> ktoorent just work fine
[01:32] <rmd_> markelhas: i doubt you'll experience a difference.  i've always had improved torrent activity using utorrent under wine compared to native apps
[01:32] <_4strO> ktorrent
[01:32] <intelikey> that's the highest lag time i think ive ever seen     -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 91.469 seconds   8*{
[01:32] <markelhas> rmd_: i like very much this one, but i really want to solve this :|
[01:33] <stoft> rmd_: maybe you can explain why his speeds under wine/linux are worse than xp?
[01:33] <LHoT> _4str0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18711/
[01:33] <rmd_> i can't explain the difference, but i sincerely doubt that it is a wine issue.  by all means, try it and see what happens.
[01:33] <_4strO> LHoT: ok let me have a look on it :)
[01:33] <LHoT> thanks.
[01:34] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: whoah. That's pretty bad what are you on a satellite connection with a full pipe? :)
[01:34] <stoft> markelhas: btw, which ports did you open, the default BT ports?
[01:34] <stoft> markelhas: in firestarter that is.
[01:34] <intelikey> LeeJunFan no dialup with a full pipe
[01:34] <intelikey> clear now.
[01:35] <_4strO> lol LHoT
[01:35] <markelhas> stoft: the default and the client
[01:35] <intelikey> seems if you nice -19 a wget as root then irc clients suffer for it.
[01:35] <LHoT> what?
[01:35] <rmd_> markelhas: have you tried disabling firestarter all together and then running the torrent again?
[01:35] <_4strO> LHoT: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf will open you a window
[01:35] <LHoT> ahhh
[01:35] <markelhas> rmd_: nop
[01:35] <LHoT> you want that info
[01:35] <_4strO> paste the entire content of the file :p
[01:35] <LHoT> okay
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> I remember the days of dialup for me, I used to bond 2 modems together with MPPP, and use traffic control to make sure certain traffic had some reserved bandwidth.
[01:36] <LHoT> lol
[01:36] <LHoT> sorry
[01:36] <_4strO> no pb ;)
[01:36] <rmd_> markelhas: try it and see what happens.  it could give you some valuable information.
[01:36] <BloodyTux> i feel weird. i'm talking in the windows irc...
[01:36] <intelikey> LeeJunFan yeah i could do a little better than what i do.  i'm just to "cheep" to...
[01:37] <phoxy> can anyone help with gfortran?
[01:37] <rmd_> markelhas: you'll probably be safe with firestarter disabled for 10 minutes
[01:37] <LHoT> astro: V
[01:37] <LHoT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18713/*
[01:37] <LHoT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18713/
[01:37] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: I had to, I needed to have responsive ssh even if my wife was downloading music or something.
[01:37] <intelikey> hehhe
[01:38] <intelikey> i'm not sharing the connection...    and no wife to satisfy.
[01:38] <_4strO> LHoT: you cant have beryl with the fglrx driver
[01:38] <markelhas> rmd_: ok, just testing with ktorrent first to check if a native client gets better upload speed
[01:38] <_4strO> LHoT: have you a good reason to have this driver ?
[01:38] <LHoT> hmmmmmmm... so what do I do?
[01:38] <intelikey> LeeJunFan but i totaly stand under you.
[01:38] <rmd_> markelhas: good idea.
[01:39] <phoxy> when   I type: gfortran -o MyProg MyProg.f  and try to run MyProg later, nothing happens
[01:39] <intelikey> what's the command to extract the content of an initramfs image ?
[01:39] <intelikey> is it a cpio something ?
[01:40] <Daisuke_Ido> phoxy: this isn't the place for fortran help, i would bet 95% of the people here don't use it
[01:40] <LHoT> ummm... no idea... like I said... total Linux n00b. I've been running Kubuntu for one month... and thats all my Linux experiance.
[01:40] <_4strO> LHoT: you installed it manually :p
[01:40] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido prolly higher
[01:40] <LHoT> ???
[01:40] <LHoT> hmmm
[01:40] <Gabz> phoxy: lol fortran....
[01:40] <_4strO> LHoT: it's not the driver by default ;)
[01:41] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: yeah, cpio - I forget the args.
[01:41] <phoxy> my feelings exactly, but I am working with some ancient ppl
[01:41] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: was being very generous
[01:41] <LHoT> ah. it was probably my friends doing
[01:41] <mefisto__> I want to update a folder on my USB dirve with a hard disk folder that has newer files. is rsync the way to do that?
[01:41] <Daisuke_Ido> who the heck uses fortran anymore anyway?
[01:41] <intelikey> there is a   #fortran   but it's almost vacant
[01:41] <markelhas> stoft: ktorrent same slow speed
[01:41] <phoxy> anyone who needs REALLY fast computations
[01:42] <markelhas> stoft: 2.0 kb/s
[01:42] <Gabz> phoxy: they still teach fortan at my university to the enigneers...
[01:42] <rmd_> markelhas: i'd offer to test it with ktorrent myself, but im in a hotel behind a bitch firewall
[01:42] <markelhas> stoft: and very strage cause only to users connect to me
[01:42] <slop> is 11.2 mb/s a decent speed to top out at when transferring files between two computers on a home network?
[01:43] <stoft> markelhas: ok, next step, as rmd_ suggested, in firestarter: stop firewall
[01:43] <rmd_> markelhas: say that again? what's it doing?
[01:43] <Gabz> slop: on a 100mbit network ?/
[01:43] <markelhas> rmd_: i don't think that the problem is from the client but from my kubuntu config or something like that
[01:43] <intelikey> does anyone actually use   "info blah"  ?
[01:43] <slop> Gabz: not sure...just a cheapy discontinued router from walmart, cable modem
[01:43] <markelhas> rmd_: in ktorrent i've only to users on my peer list
[01:44] <stoft> intelikey: I do on occasion, when the man page says that more complete info can be found under info blah. that is usually not the case.
[01:44] <Gabz> slop: top theorical speed is 12.5 mb/s if you want faster upgrade to gigabit
[01:44] <slop> Gabz: cool thanks
[01:44] <rmd_> markelhas: you're leaving out words.  i dont understand what you're trying to say
[01:44] <stoft> markelhas: to==two?
[01:44] <intelikey> i mean like man cpio is all but useless and sends you to info cpio  but one look at that and i feel the urge to defecate,  pardon the descriptor.      it's sickening
[01:45] <markelhas> rmd_: sorry, only 2 users one the peer list
[01:45] <rmd_> ah
[01:45] <elais> so...how about them braves
[01:45] <rmd_> something is being blocked.  try stopping firestarter.
[01:45] <LHoT> astro: so how do I revert the changes?
[01:45] <rmd_> my guess is that it is doing something that windows firewall wasn't
[01:46] <mefisto__> I want to update a folder on my USB dirve with a hard disk folder that has newer files. how do I do that?
[01:47] <rmd_> mefisto__: cp?  copy and paste in file manager?
[01:47] <stoft> intelikey: know what you mean
[01:47] <nuu> good night guys
[01:48] <mefisto__> rmd_: is there a quicker way, so it just updates newer/changed files?
[01:48] <stoft> mefisto__: try "konserve" the kde backup prog
[01:48] <LHoT> anyone know how to make the 24 hour clock a 12?
[01:48] <stoft> mefisto__: don't know if it'll do what you want it to, but maybe
[01:48] <intelikey> LHoT right click on it
[01:48] <mefisto__> thanks stoft, I'll take a look
[01:49] <stoft> intelikey: now if only I could do that trick with the clock in real life too :)
[01:49] <intelikey> :)
[01:49] <markelhas> rmd_: i give up.
[01:49] <markelhas> stoft: thnks for the help
[01:49] <markelhas> rmd_: thnks for the help to
[01:49] <LHoT> still wont change, Im navigating the menus...
[01:50] <stoft> markelhas: did you try stopping the firewall in firestarter?
[01:50] <markelhas> stoft: yap :/
[01:51] <intelikey> LHoT it's there in the time/date  and/or  lang  settings  of the right click menu on the clock app
[01:51] <stoft> markelhas: sorry can't help you then. not quite my area, my isp NATs me so i'm always behind a fw.
[01:51] <intelikey> LHoT kinda hard to find but it's there.
[01:52] <markelhas> stoft: ok, thnk go to go. i'll try later other things. don't now what bu i will. cause i don't want to return to xp.
[01:52] <stoft> markelhas: k, good luck
[01:53] <LHoT> meh...
[01:53] <LHoT> oh well.
[01:57] <LHoT> so... _4str0 disappeared... can anyone help me with my Beryl problem?
[01:58] <_4strO> LHoT: LHoT sorry i was googleing about your video card
[01:59] <LHoT> oh
[01:59] <LHoT> okay
[01:59] <LHoT> sorry... Im very impatient sometimes :-[
[02:01] <_4strO> LHoT: no pb, the pb is i dont find anything about your video card and the free driver
[02:03] <LHoT> yes... my laptop is non existant on the makers web site...
[02:03] <_4strO> ok i find it, it will works :p
[02:03] <LHoT> it wouldnt suprise me if this has a lot of custom stuff
[02:03] <LHoT> :-D
[02:04] <_4strO> LHoT: type 'dpkg -l | grep libgl1-mesa-dri' in a console
[02:04] <_4strO> have you a line who bgin by ii
[02:04] <_4strO> ?
[02:04] <LHoT> yep
[02:04] <_4strO> ok
[02:05] <_4strO> LHoT: type 'dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video-ati'
[02:05] <_4strO> always a line with ii ?
[02:06] <LHoT> yep
[02:06] <_4strO> LHoT: look in the /etc/X11/ directory and find a file names xorg.0 or something like this
[02:06] <baudthief> I'm getting VERY poor performace when transferring photos from my digicam card to my desktop - the ports are USB 2.0, it's taking something like 15 mins for 300mb. Are there known issues with ubuntu for this?
[02:07] <_4strO> baudthief: i dont know
[02:08] <_4strO> LHoT: find one ?
[02:08] <LHoT> nope
[02:08] <LHoT> :(
[02:08] <_4strO> LHoT: or just paste the result of that 'ls /etc/X11/'
[02:09] <LHoT> app-defaults             gdm      xorg.conf                 Xsession.d
[02:09] <LHoT> config                   rgb.txt  xorg.conf.20070422170742  Xsession.options
[02:09] <LHoT> cursors                  X        Xresources                XvMCConfig
[02:09] <LHoT> default-display-manager  xinit    xserver                   Xwrapper.config
[02:09] <LHoT> fonts                    xkb      Xsession
[02:11] <_4strO> LHoT: paste (in the website) the content of 'kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070422170742'
[02:11] <rmd_> suggestions on a download manager for kde?
[02:11] <LHoT> k
[02:12] <LHoT> crap
[02:12] <_4strO> rmd_: kget
[02:12] <LHoT> closed the window
[02:12] <LHoT> !paste | LHoT
[02:12] <_4strO> ^^
[02:12] <LHoT> doesn't work for myself?
[02:12] <_4strO> /topic
[02:12] <LHoT> thats cheap
[02:12] <rmd_> i very very much like the kde wallpaper downloader
[02:12] <_4strO> !paste | LHoT
[02:12] <ubotu> LHoT: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:12] <LHoT> thanks
[02:13] <_4strO> rmd_: what is this ?
[02:13] <vecina> How come I keep having to reinstall dbus to make automounting work?
[02:13] <vecina> not to mention pal and hal to make graphics work right...
[02:13] <_4strO> vecina: i dont know
[02:13] <vecina> _4strO: Ah.
[02:14] <LHoT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18728/
[02:14] <_4strO> vecina: if you put a CD it will automount, isnt it ?
[02:15] <vecina> _4strO: Only if the cd drive is listed in fstab.
[02:15] <lontra> how can i tell X that i have 1200x800 resolution and not 1024x768?
[02:15] <_4strO> vecina: weird
[02:15] <LHoT> is the image nice?
[02:15] <vecina> those three files bork
[02:15] <kkerwin> Hi, I'm still having a few problems with my ATI card. Here is a pastebin of what I hope is everything that you'll need (note especially lines 816-17): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18727/
[02:15] <LHoT> my screen looks horrid at 1024x768
[02:16] <vecina> whats worse, the framebuffer makes my monitor shut off.... and sometimes logging out activates framebuffer :(
[02:16] <vecina> kkerwin: Feisty hates my ATI :(
[02:16] <kkerwin> vecina: Me too.
[02:16] <_4strO> LHoT: type in a console 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.bak && sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070422170742 /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[02:17] <LHoT> hmmm... what was suposed to happen?
[02:17] <_4strO> cp is copy and mv is move
[02:17] <BluesKaj> _4strO:   copy and paste works too :)
[02:17] <kkerwin> vecina: Speak Spanish at all?  The last one was "foxcub"
[02:18] <vecina> I like the word vecina. Its sexy :D
[02:19] <LHoT> speaking of IRC names, can anyone guess where my name comes from?
[02:19] <_4strO> LHoT: you have a liveCD ?
[02:19] <kkerwin> vecina: Gotcha. Well, just in case you were curious, your computer's name means "neighbor" in Spanish.
[02:19] <stoft> kkerwin: male or female?
[02:19] <LHoT> ummm... its here somewhere...
[02:19] <kkerwin> stoft: Female. The -a suffix is (almost) always feminine.
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> _4strO: but if all they get is a little command without explanation, they'll never learn :)
[02:19] <vecina> kkerwin: Really , lol. I heard it was 'vixen' from someone, guess not.
[02:19] <dsmith_> good news: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/01/1353237&from=rss
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> vecina: depends on the neighbor, i suppose ;)
[02:20] <LHoT> ... found it
[02:20] <LHoT> ...
[02:20] <vecina> hehe
[02:20] <kkerwin> vecina: Well, "female neighbor" could definitely be seen as having a sexual connotation.
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> dsmith_: old news :)
[02:20] <_4strO> LHoT: ok now you will have too reboot you X server (ctrl-alt-backspace) if you have any pb just come back here with the liveCD ;)
[02:20] <dsmith_> haha...
[02:20] <LHoT> its an ubuntu, that wont matter, will it?
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> but incredibly cool
[02:20] <dsmith_> yea coolness
[02:20] <dsmith_> so long as we get HW support
[02:21] <kkerwin> dsmith_: Good point. Back on topic.
[02:21] <Daisuke_Ido> you really think dell wants the support nightmare if they include unsupported hardware?
[02:21] <vecina> Yeah, i saw a gallery of, eh, girls once labeled "Le Vecinas", so i assumed that 'vixen' was in fact the correct translation
[02:21] <dsmith_> aye..
[02:21] <_4strO> Daisuke_Ido: you're right but when someone give me a command i always note it and look for explaination
[02:22] <kkerwin> vecina: Try "zorra" ... see also "zorro" which means fox. "Zorra" would be a female fox.
[02:22] <_4strO> Daisuke_Ido: in fact i dont note it all the time
[02:22] <vecina> kkerwin: I like vecina :3
[02:22] <_4strO> :)
[02:22] <vecina> Zorro means fox?
[02:22] <kkerwin> vecina: Yep. Just being a grammar Nazi. :-)
[02:22] <kkerwin> vecina: Yep.
[02:22] <BluesKaj> _4strO: what does that Xconfig cmnd do for his monitor ?
[02:23] <kkerwin> Fitting name for a masked crusader, no?
[02:23] <Daisuke_Ido> Zorra.  my new nickname for catherine zeta-jones
[02:23] <vecina> kkerwin: So thats why they named him that
[02:23] <LHoT> I'm back
[02:23] <LHoT> no problem
[02:23] <_4strO> LHoT: ok everything looks fine ?
[02:23] <_4strO> good :)
[02:23] <LHoT> yep
[02:23] <kkerwin> Anyhow ... I'm still having a few problems with my ATI card. Here is a pastebin of what I hope is everything that you'll need (note especially lines 816-17): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18727/
[02:23] <_4strO> LHoT: now we will install beryl :)
[02:23] <LHoT> run Beryl?
[02:24] <LHoT> its all installed
[02:24] <_4strO> LHoT: ok gooooo :)
[02:24] <LHoT> :)
[02:24] <vecina> I have never had this much trouble with linux before
[02:24] <rmd_> can firefox take advantage of kget?
[02:25] <LHoT> :(
[02:25] <vecina> Of course, my windows installation is even less stable
[02:25] <vecina> virii
[02:25] <LHoT> still the same result
[02:25] <LHoT> :(
[02:25] <_4strO> LHoT: ok
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> run beryl-manager
[02:25] <BluesKaj> what are you trying to do kkerwin ? direct rendering ? or ?
[02:25] <LHoT> thats whats running
[02:26] <kkerwin> BluesKaj: Eventually, run beryl. But first, get AIGLX working, yes.
[02:26] <PCGenie> Simplicity and flexibility is something i find a lot of in Kubuntu
[02:26] <LHoT> hmmmm... maybe I only installed beryl-manager, and totally forgot beryl
[02:26] <LHoT> lol
[02:26] <vecina> I *DID* until i got this new computer
[02:26] <kkerwin> LHoT: Dependency?
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> it's possible, but pretty unlikely
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah
[02:26] <vecina> kubuntu haet ATI
[02:26] <LHoT> ?
[02:26] <LHoT> lol
[02:26] <BloodyTux> WAZZUP
[02:26] <kkerwin> LHoT: Wouldn't beryl-manager install beryl as a dependency?
[02:27] <vecina> Wazzaaaaaaaap
[02:27] <LHoT> all the disscussions are about beryl
[02:27] <BluesKaj> kkerwin:  have you consulted the open source driver / beryl tutorials ... there are quite a few
[02:27] <LHoT> I dont know
[02:27] <kkerwin> LHoT: LOL. Ya.
[02:27] <_4strO> LHoT: type 'glxinfo | grep render' in a console
[02:27] <BloodyTux> #beryl!!!!!!
[02:27] <BloodyTux> sorry
[02:27] <BloodyTux>  #beryl
[02:27] <BloodyTux> !!!!
[02:27] <kkerwin> BluesKaj: I an't remember what the problem was, but it didn't work.
[02:27] <BluesKaj> there is als o new linux driver for Radeon cards
[02:27] <kkerwin> BloodyTux: Try: /join #beryl
[02:27] <vecina> fglrx?
[02:27] <LHoT> #beryl is dead
[02:27] <BluesKaj> yes
[02:27] <_4strO> LHoT: direct rendering: Yes ???
[02:28] <BloodyTux> thats what i meant
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> try #ubuntu-effects
[02:28] <LHoT> I asked for help there first
[02:28] <kkerwin> BloodyTux: :-) Just trying to help.
[02:28] <BloodyTux> #beryl is not dead
[02:28] <LHoT> no
[02:28] <LHoT> :(
[02:28] <vecina> Nobody can answer my question no matter where i go.
[02:28] <LHoT> I had it before
[02:28] <vecina> there must not be an answer! A gremlin must live in my hard drive
[02:29] <kkerwin> BluesKaj: Here we go, I rememmber what the problem with the opensource radeon driver was, I got a "non power of two textures aren't supported" message, or something like that.
[02:29] <LHoT> venica: just keep pressing. ;) it always works
[02:30] <LHoT> BloodyTux: Okay then, no one there is saying anything, and there is only one message per 5 min
[02:30] <BloodyTux> ... :)
[02:30] <LHoT> hmmm
[02:30] <BloodyTux> #beryl!!!!!
[02:30] <LHoT> that was a redundant statement
[02:30] <meuhlol> re all
[02:30] <LHoT> ...
[02:31] <meuhlol> whats up?
[02:31] <LHoT> the sky
[02:31] <LHoT> :)
[02:31] <vecina> gas prices
[02:31] <LHoT> lol
[02:31] <LHoT> true
[02:31] <BloodyTux> your computer is outside???
[02:32] <LHoT> well, yes
[02:32] <LHoT> im on a laptop
[02:32] <LHoT> on my balcony
[02:32] <LHoT> :)
[02:32] <BloodyTux> type /join #beryl!!!!!
[02:32] <BloodyTux> good beryl help
[02:33] <LHoT> I just came from there, it's inactive
[02:33] <_4strO> LHoT: 'sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18731/ in it
[02:33] <BloodyTux> try again
[02:33] <BloodyTux> i got good help
[02:33] <_Johny> Hello
[02:34] <BloodyTux> might be #beryl!!!!
[02:34] <LHoT> where do I paste
[02:34] <LHoT> ?
[02:34] <LHoT> GO AWAY!
[02:34] <BloodyTux> what?
[02:34] <jtholmes> !pastebin
[02:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:34] <_Johny> I just wanted to know how come feisty supports even more the acceleration on my video card, than Edgy?
[02:34] <_4strO> LHoT: you have to open the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:35] <LHoT> oh
[02:35] <_4strO> and paste what you have on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18731/ in the file
[02:35] <LHoT> just replace it all?
[02:35] <_4strO> yep
[02:35] <LHoT> k
[02:35] <bob__> hi all
[02:35] <bob__> does anyone got an SDCARD slot to work with edgy?work
[02:36] <LHoT> k
[02:36] <_4strO> LHoT: save it and restart X :)
[02:36] <LHoT> now check for direct rendering again
[02:36] <LHoT> okay
[02:37] <kkerwin> Ok, from the #ATI channel, if you're having problems getting beryl working and are using an ATI card, they don't suggest using the fglrx module, but rather the opensource radeon driver.
[02:37] <_4strO> kkerwin: right :)
[02:38] <velle> Hi, which torrent client can you recommend? I am using ktorrent, but i dont see how to judge what I want to share and what I dont.
[02:38] <LeeJunFan> velle: that's how torrent works, you share what you are downloading.
[02:39] <meuhlol> velle what you have as OS?
[02:39] <meuhlol> Kubuntu or Ubuntu? Edgy or Feisty?
[02:40] <meuhlol> velle, personally i'm at Feisty KDE, & KTorrent is good for me =) nothing needed at plus
[02:40] <flowingfire> Hey everyone!  I have a server running in my system tray that I can't disable.  I have no idea what to do; It's not in my autostart folder, and it's not able to be removed by the standard click-n-close method... ?
[02:40] <LHoT> back
[02:40] <LHoT> nothing still
[02:40] <meuhlol> flowingfire: what you have? KDE or Gnome?
[02:40] <velle> LeeJunFan: I totally agree, but what happens is that it is automatically sharing everything, which is more than 1024 files. So now I am not able to download anymore myself, I get an error if I try, saying that I have too many open files.
[02:40] <flowingfire> meuhlol: I have KDE-- kubuntu
[02:41] <_Johny> velle, you can try Azureus or Ctorrent (under terminal)
[02:41] <meuhlol> flowingfire: feisty?
[02:41] <velle> Im using kubuntu... dont remember which version, sorry
[02:41] <meuhlol> velle: try Ktorrent :)
[02:41] <_4strO> LHoT: direct rendering: No ?
[02:41] <flowingfire> meuhlol?: Indeed, I am running good ol' fun (yet buggy) feisty
[02:41] <LHoT> no
[02:41] <LHoT> :(
[02:41] <_4strO> LHoT: reboot the box :)
[02:42] <_Johny> velle, just piu lsb_release -a in your terminal to see which version you're using
[02:42] <meuhlol> flowingfire, try this one: ksysguard ;) and in it you choose your process & after u kill it xD
[02:42] <velle> _Johny: thanks. Im using dapper
[02:42] <LHoT> its not so much a box box as it is a dough nut box
[02:43] <Pollywog> flowingfire: did you say this thing puts an icon in the tray?
[02:43] <LHoT> :P
[02:43] <_4strO> ;)
[02:43] <LHoT> rebooting
[02:43] <_4strO> ok
[02:43] <flowingfire> Yes, Pollywog-- it puts a thing in the tray... but it doesn't recognize it in when I click to configure the tray... like it's not there.
[02:43] <meuhlol> flowingfire: sudo ksysguard
[02:43] <Pollywog> flowingfire: what does the icon look like?
[02:43] <flowingfire> mehulol: Ok.
[02:44] <meuhlol> flowingfire: and in tab of "table of processus" you kill him
[02:44] <flowingfire> Pollywog: a blue circle of some kind... It showed up after I clicked a tab in properties on a folder to share stuff on the web...
[02:44] <Pollywog> oic
[02:45] <Pollywog> right clicked this icon and no menu comes up?
[02:45] <flowingfire> problem is I'm not sure what it's called lol
[02:46] <meuhlol> flowingfire: what is the name of server you are?
[02:47] <LHoT> direct rendering is a "no"
[02:47] <LHoT> :(
[02:47] <_4strO> rhoooo !
[02:47] <flowingfire> meuhlol: since the whole thing was unintentional I'm not sure... What I did was click the second tab to the right after activating sharing under a folder's properties... Then I clicked start applet.... and the applet never went away
[02:47] <BloodyTux> lhot, beryl is active right now
[02:47] <LHoT> as in peopl helping?
[02:47] <BloodyTux> *#beryl
[02:47] <Pollywog> it might be one of the panel applets
[02:47] <LHoT> or casually ignoring
[02:47] <BloodyTux> * #beryl
[02:47] <BloodyTux> yea helping
[02:48] <_Johny> I just wanted to know how come feisty supports even more the acceleration on my video card, than Edgy?
[02:48] <_4strO> can you paste the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:48] <_4strO> LHoT: can you paste the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:48] <flowingfire> hmm.... I just removed all applets from my bar and it seems to be gone along w/ everything else lol
[02:48] <jason_> hi there, anybody can help me about the /tmp/.X0-lock issue please
[02:48] <ejupin> How can I get my usb mic working? I thought I have all the setting right.. but nothing
[02:49] <meuhlol> flowingfire: try to reboot your machine, and tell me if it come on boot or not
[02:49] <flowingfire> ok.... I'll brb then.
[02:49] <velle> My solution was to rm -r ~/.kde/ktorrent/*           now ktorrent stops sharing out, so now I have to find a way to share just some of it again :)
[02:50] <jason_> hi there, anybody can help me about the /tmp/.X0-lock issue please
[02:51] <Pollywog> jason_: if you can't get an answer here you might post on the forums
[02:51] <jason_> Pollywog: thanks, ill try it
[02:53] <BloodyTux> ughhh wine sucks butt!
[02:54] <tpc__> y dont u use utorrent
[02:54] <BloodyTux> #ubuntu-trivia
[02:54] <mahdi> wine is way sweet
[02:54] <LHoT> !pastebin
[02:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:54] <BloodyTux> !trivia
[02:54] <ubotu> The #ubuntu-trivia channel is a place for testing your brain power and having fun! We schedule themed quizzes, every Friday, to test your knowledge of your favourite operating system (Ubuntu, of course!) and keep you exercising those cranial muscles.
[02:55] <anon32> ick, trivia bot? omg...
[02:56] <flowingfire> Hi... I guess that worked, because I restarted and I don't have that nasty thing there anymore.
[02:56] <flowingfire> But now my toolbar is all messy hehe
[02:56] <flowingfire> thanks :)
[02:57] <LHoT> !nothing
[02:57] <ubotu> Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[02:58] <anon32> I've got a really old cruddy PC with 64M RAM and a P-II 350MHz, should I bother with X?
[02:58] <BloodyTux> !mada
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mada - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <BloodyTux> !nada
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nada - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <danny500> Hey guy's, need help really badly
[02:59] <danny500> ubuntu won't load up the desktop
[02:59] <danny500> 99% of HD being used
[02:59] <danny500> I'm using live cd
[02:59] <danny500> anyone?
[03:00] <anon32> danny500, eh? delete some junk
[03:00] <danny500> I need to get into my hard drive but don't know how to using live cd
[03:00] <anon32> danny500, "mount /dev/harddrivethingyname /mnt/randomgenericfoldername"
[03:01] <danny500> hd = hd0
[03:01] <mahdi> set it up as slave to a friends computer if the livecd can't load
[03:02] <anon32> danny500, that doesn't help... let's see, a) what kind of hard drive do you have? ide/pata? sata? scsi? b) which hard drive (number) are you trying to access?
[03:02] <danny500> ide
[03:02] <anon32> danny500, your hard drive is master on the first channel right?
[03:02] <danny500> 0
[03:02] <danny500> yes
[03:02] <keylocker> hello all!
[03:02] <danny500> it's master
[03:02] <Jump> i recently installed kde on top of ubuntu and now my video thumbnails do not show in kde, but they work in gnome... how can i fix this?
[03:02] <meuhlol> re all
[03:02] <keylocker> someone know about beryl problems with kubuntu now?
[03:03] <mahdi> !hello | keylocker
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <anon32> danny500, do you know which partition number your Ubuntu install is on?
[03:03] <danny500> I don't know, 1?
[03:03] <danny500> it's using the whole drive
[03:03] <anon32> danny500, ok, now we have enough info
[03:03] <keylocker> mahdi: ;]
[03:03] <danny500> ok
[03:04] <mahdi> hm
[03:04] <anon32> danny500, run the following command "sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu"
[03:05] <danny500> the partitions name is Netkiller btw
[03:05] <BloodyTux> how do i add like xfce to the session list
[03:05] <anon32> danny500, doesn't matter :-P
[03:05] <anon32> did the command work?
[03:06] <danny500> oh ok
[03:06] <danny500> I got a pop up saying the blah blah blah is using 100% of space given
[03:08] <anon32> danny500, ignore it, enter the partition from the command line and junk some pr0n
[03:08] <anon32> "cd /mnt/ubuntu"
[03:08] <anon32> and "rm porno.avi"
[03:08] <danny500> I don't have porn on my drive lol
[03:08] <Jump> is it just me or is kubuntu faster than ubuntu?
[03:08] <danny500> My girlfriend get's the job done so I don't need that shit lol
[03:09] <Sleepy_Coder> Jump:  Might depend on how Kubuntu uses your hardware. :p
[03:09] <danny500> Jump, they are exactly the same, just diferent desktop type
[03:09] <anon32> danny500, "girlfriend"? lol
[03:09] <Sleepy_Coder> *cough*inflatable*cough*
[03:09] <danny500> yeah, you know girl, that I date
[03:09] <Jump> programs in kde just load faster... konquerer loads instantly but firefox takes 5-10 sec
[03:09] <Jump> and in gnome things like amarok are slower to me
[03:10] <Cosmo_> I have a USB headset and a sound card but I can not hear anything through the headset how do I fix this?
[03:10] <danny500> haha your funny, this is her, www.myspace.com/michelletheluckygirl
[03:10] <anon32> eww, myspace... I won't ever touch that cruft
[03:10] <Sleepy_Coder> I guess it depends on which desktop manager the programs were made for and how long it takes for the other desktop manager to startup and and load those. :)
[03:10] <Sleepy_Coder> -and*
[03:10] <PCGenie> Firefox is much more exact than IE from MS, it shows the page excatly as it is built
[03:10] <keylocker> noone can help with beryl?
[03:10] <danny500> keylocker
[03:10] <danny500> google it
[03:11] <keylocker> danny500: have notting
[03:11] <keylocker> ive tryed
[03:11] <anon32> danny500, hate to diss on your "gf" but that webpage is horribly designed
[03:11] <danny500> whats wrong then?
[03:11] <Sleepy_Coder> keylocker:  http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Main_Page
[03:11] <Sleepy_Coder> :)
[03:11] <Sleepy_Coder> It's a good read.
[03:11] <Sleepy_Coder> And looks pretty too. :p
[03:11] <danny500> anon32, yes I know
[03:11] <DaveQB> anyone know where the LiveCD gets the dir /usr/share/wallpaper from ?
[03:11] <Sleepy_Coder> eBay?
[03:11] <DaveQB> its not in the squashfs file that everything else comes from.
[03:12] <danny500> anon32, the thing I hate most aobut it is the fact that you can't fucking message her because there is some huge button link over the entire top of the page
[03:12] <anon32> danny500, I notice the tiled wallpaper and bad choice of colors....
[03:12] <danny500> yes
[03:12] <keylocker> Sleepy_Coder: argh
[03:12] <keylocker> my good
[03:12] <keylocker> ive searched all this site
[03:12] <keylocker> google to
[03:12] <slop|top> what console command would i use to view a list of all IDE devices?
[03:12] <keylocker> o
[03:12] <danny500> oh well, I really don't care though, she's good looking so I let her get away with it lol
[03:13] <keylocker> and notting helped me
[03:13] <DaveQB> slop|top  lshw
[03:13] <danny500> anyways, i'll go check to see if it worked
[03:13] <PCGenie> Try KDE-look.org
[03:13] <DaveQB> slop|top sudo lshw
[03:13] <keylocker> im notting asking if i dont searched....
[03:13] <keylocker> argh
[03:13] <slop|top> DaveQB: thx!
[03:14] <Sleepy_Coder> I think I might set up beryl again... :<
[03:14] <Sleepy_Coder> I had it working once...but I kind of got rid of it because I hated all the animations.
[03:14] <Daisuke_Ido> so turn them off :)
[03:14] <Sleepy_Coder> They were cool to look at for like..2 seconds.  Then they just got annoying.  I think the window switcher and the desktop cube were the only useful ones.
[03:14] <danny500> anon32, can't chat in other window
[03:14] <Sleepy_Coder> I don't want my computer to rain.  I don't need a computer crying on me.  Get the emo off mai screen bitch!
[03:15] <Sleepy_Coder> hehehe
[03:15] <danny500> I only have a 20GB drive thats how
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> !ohmy
[03:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:15] <Sleepy_Coder> Sorry.. :<
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> but i see what you mean
[03:15] <Sleepy_Coder> I keep forgetting I'm in a G-rated channel.
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> i use a very slight wobble
[03:15] <anon32> Daisuke_Ido, come on....
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> and fade effects on minimize/maximize
[03:15] <anon32> danny500, hehe, 20GB?
[03:15] <danny500> what, I was swearing not to long ago and ubotu didn't say a word lol
[03:15] <Sleepy_Coder> I don't like the windows wobbling too much.  I didn't know you could turn down the jelly effect without getting rid of it. :)
[03:15] <danny500> yes
[03:15] <danny500> P# lol
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> anon32: no "come on" to it, that's the rules here
[03:15] <danny500> P3
[03:16] <DaveQB> so anyone familiar with the way the LiveCD and installer works ?
[03:16] <anon32> I feel your pain, mine's 80GB... video fills that up pretty quick
[03:16] <anon32> Daisuke_Ido, that's no reason to be anal about it...
[03:16] <Daisuke_Ido> 170gb of tv shows :\
[03:16] <anon32> 40GB here....  Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:18] <anon32> danny500, does it say anything?
[03:18] <danny500> there isn't even an icon for it
[03:18] <danny500> no
[03:18] <danny500> cause according to livecd, the drive is none exsistent
[03:18] <anon32> danny500, there doesn't need to be an icon.... browse to it from the command line
[03:19] <danny500> ok whats the command for that?
[03:19] <anon32> danny500, "cd <whereeveryoumountedit>"
[03:19] <anon32> and "ls" prints what's in the current folder
[03:19] <danny500> cd: /dev/hd0: No such file or directory
[03:19] <Daisuke_Ido> scrubs (oh yeah), daria, south park, the simpsons, saved by the bell, family guy...
[03:20] <anon32> danny500, were you listening a few lines back?
[03:20] <anon32> never mind, paste the output of the command "mount" to http://pastebin.ca
[03:20] <danny500> no, but I was reading
[03:22] <danny500> thats the drive
[03:22] <danny500> ,,,,,,        /dev/hda1 on /mnt/Netkiller type ext3 (rw)
[03:22] <anon32> danny500, there ya go, it's not "hd0, it's hda1"
[03:22] <anon32> :-)
[03:22] <DaveQB> so whats the problem danny500 ?  Sorry, jumping in in mid conversation i think :)
[03:23] <anon32> DaveQB, we fixed it, it was basically mounting partitions.... (he needed grounding in the fundamentals)
[03:23] <danny500> hard drive is full and ubuntu is being a bitch and won't let me in the house
[03:23] <DaveQB> lol
[03:23] <DaveQB> i see
[03:23] <danny500> whats with that anyways?
[03:23] <anon32> danny500, for future reference, hard drives are "hda1 hdb1 hda2 hdb2, etc"
[03:23] <danny500> ok
[03:23] <DaveQB> hd0 is grub like
[03:23] <danny500> It should at least let me in so I can delete crap
[03:24] <DaveQB> cat /boot/grub/devices.map will show that hd0 points to
[03:24] <anon32> danny500, all OS' need the extra space for cacheing and tmp
[03:24] <BloodyTux> sometimes ide drives get sucked into beind hd0 like my friends
[03:24] <danny500> well it can stop cacheing and let me in!
[03:24] <anon32> danny500, also, you mighta been able to boot into recovery/singleuser mode
[03:24] <danny500> tried that
[03:24] <DaveQB> danny500  what wont let you in ?
[03:24] <kkerwin> Hi, I'm having a problem with beryl that perhaps a picture would explain better than words: http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2503/berylproblempp1.jpg
[03:24] <danny500> still kicked me off to the login window
[03:24] <stoft> it's not perhaps that swap is inactive?
[03:25] <danny500> I can't login
[03:25] <anon32> danny500, you coulda hit "ctrl alt 1" to get a console
[03:25] <DaveQB> danny500 used a VT instead ?
[03:25] <stoft> (just a thought, don't know what the prob is)
[03:25] <danny500> a what?
[03:25] <anon32> danny500, doing a GUI login needs space
[03:25] <anon32> danny500, console = command line screen
[03:25] <anon32> try hitting that :-)
[03:25] <DaveQB> danny500 login in , in text mode
[03:25] <Cosmo_>  I have a USB headset and a sound card but I can not hear anything through the headset how do I fix this?I am running 7.04 kubuntu
[03:25] <DaveQB> like anon32 said, CTRL+ALT+F1
[03:25] <anon32> danny500, it's ctrl alt f7 to get back to graphical
[03:26] <danny500> I know
[03:26] <DaveQB> hittin the command line is the best way to troubleshoot
[03:26] <danny500> so how do I mount my drive again?
[03:26] <DaveQB> hda1 ?
[03:26] <danny500> reinstalling is another lol
[03:26] <anon32> mount <device> <some empty folder>
[03:26] <danny500> yes
[03:26] <DaveQB> mount /dev/hda1 /dest/directory
[03:26] <DaveQB> sudo ^
[03:26] <DaveQB> anon32  doesnt even need to be empty ;)
[03:26] <anon32> so, for example, mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/isuck
[03:27] <DaveQB> lol
[03:27] <anon32> DaveQB, but that's very smart, lol
[03:27] <DaveQB> does anyone know where the installer gets its wallpaper from ?
[03:27] <danny500> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /home/danny500/
[03:27] <danny500> mount: mount point /home/danny500/ does not exist
[03:28] <DaveQB> its not in the squashfs system at all
[03:28] <DaveQB> danny500  mkdir -p /home/danny500
[03:28] <DaveQB> and then mount it
[03:29] <danny500> IT WORKED! THANKS GUYS!
[03:29] <DaveQB> np
[03:30] <meuhlol> re$
[03:30] <danny500> so if I ever have to do this again all I type is " sudo mkdir -p /home/danny500" ?
[03:31] <danny500> then "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /home/danny500/" ?
[03:31] <DaveQB> danny500  if the folder doesnt already exist
[03:31] <DaveQB> danny500  if it does, then skip that step [the step to make the dir 'mkdir
[03:31] <meuhlol> danny500: mkdir is only for making directory :)
[03:31] <DaveQB> ']
[03:32] <johny> help
[03:32] <anon32> !terminal | danny500
[03:32] <ubotu> danny500: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:32] <johny> sorry
[03:32] <anon32> you might wanna read that some time
[03:33] <danny500> ok thanks guy's / gurls :D
[03:33] <johny> Is compiz enebled in Feisty by default?
[03:33] <ssaa> hello . i need some help please. I need to make the horizontal scroll area of my touchpad smaller pleas
[03:34] <ssaa> johny: no it's not
[03:34] <anon32> johey, no
[03:34] <johny> ssaa: So only in Ubuntu, right?
[03:34] <ssaa> fjohny: feisty is a version of ubuntu
[03:34] <BloodyTux> will some one here help key locker?
[03:35] <ssaa> johny: feisty is version 7.04. All the versions have a name
[03:35] <johny> ssaa: I mean - Ubuntu has more features included in new release than Kubuntu, that's all. Is it right?
[03:36] <danny500> where abouts is the trash bin folder?
[03:36] <korobase> A lot of programs crashed after I logon the kubuntu's desktop!!!
[03:36] <stoft> nn
[03:36] <korobase> How to fix this bug?
[03:36] <danny500> or does sudo rm blah blah blah totally remove the data?
[03:37] <johny> !rules |korobase
[03:37] <ubotu> korobase: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:37] <rmd_> danny500: that depends on if "the data" is contained in that package, another package, or maybe a hidden folder
[03:37] <mahdi> danny500: trash:/
[03:37] <ssaa> johny: it has the same features. Kubuntu is based in kde and Ubuntu in Gnome . thats the difference
[03:37] <ssaa> hello . i need some help please. I need to make the horizontal scroll area of my touchpad smaller please
[03:37] <ssaa> anyone?
[03:38] <mahdi> ssaa: not sure, but is that controlled by xorg.conf?
[03:38] <danny500> does sudo rm totally remove data or just move it to the trash bin?
[03:38] <mahdi> danny500: it removes it
[03:38] <ssaa> nevermind i found a solution
[03:38] <anon32> danny500, it unlinks the files so they're more or less gone
[03:38] <danny500> ok thanks
[03:38] <ssaa> johny: need more help?
[03:38] <johny> ssaa: Hmm...despite I don't think you're right - Just compare Kubuntu's new features to Ubuntu's one ( I mean, Desktop changes) not kernel and xorg..
[03:38] <danny500> I just removed the fresh prince :(
[03:39] <danny500> oh well, I need a ddv burner to burn the stuff and remove it
[03:39] <korobase> ubotu:I need help.don't need the rules or any Guidelines.
[03:39] <danny500> dvd*
[03:39] <ssaa> johny: like what changes?
[03:39] <johny> ssaa: wait please
[03:39] <korobase> ubotu is a bot?
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <DaveQB> lol
[03:40] <BloodyTux> !guidlines
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guidlines - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <BloodyTux> !rules
[03:40] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:40] <BloodyTux> :)
[03:40] <mahdi> johny: the only new features i've seen are restricted drivers and desktop effects
[03:40] <korobase> !crash
[03:40] <ubotu> For help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[03:41] <korobase> ubotu:crash kubuntu.
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crash kubuntu. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <carutsu> hello, do someone know how i can install Thunderbird 2.0?
[03:41] <carutsu> is it on the repos?
[03:41] <johny> ssaa: these are Ubuntu's features --> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704tour and here --> Kubuntu's ---> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php
[03:41] <korobase> carutsu:sudo apt-get install thunderbird.
[03:42] <carutsu> korobase: nop that's 1.5 i already have it
[03:42] <carutsu> i want 2.0
[03:43] <mahdi> in all fairness, that ubuntu link is actually a list of changes in fiesty, the kubuntu link is an introduction to kubuntu
[03:43] <korobase> carutsu:you can download the version 2.0 and install it.
[03:44] <carutsu> korobase: from source...
[03:44] <korobase> no.
[03:44] <carutsu> then?
[03:44] <korobase> binary which have been builded.
[03:45] <Mena> Why my kubuntu every time i try to start it it do system check and while checking root part give message fail and system will be restart in 5 seconeds
[03:45] <Mena> and every time restart and i tried recovery mode
[03:45] <johny> korobase: You might have to compile it from source ---> http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Linux_Build_Prerequisites
[03:45] <Mena> do same thing
[03:45] <korobase> carutsu:http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/
[03:46] <carutsu> korobase: Let me check
[03:46] <johny> .seen Jucato
[03:46] <soulrider__> !seen jucato
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen jucato - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <danny500> ok I'm going to check and see if all is good now, If I don't return in 40 minutes the all is good :) thanks guy's
[03:47] <soulrider__> doesnt work anymore johny
[03:47] <johny> soulrider__: Sorry, what doesn't work?
[03:47] <korobase> any body meet many crash of kubuntu's application program?
[03:48] <soulrider__> the seen feature
[03:48] <soulrider__> korobase: nope
[03:48] <zibrah3ed> adept
[03:48] <korobase> kicker.
[03:48] <korobase> why and how to fix all this problems?
[03:49] <zibrah3ed> what is your first language korobase there may be an ubuntu chat better suited for you
[03:49] <azgtem> why can't i boot a recent cd (not even the alternate, not even i386) on a k6-2 computer? for instance, as soon as i press enter at the "boot:" prompt (no matter what kernel options) my computer simply restarts!
[03:49] <korobase> no.I am using kubuntu,not ubuntu.
[03:49] <johny> soulrider__: ah..thanks. Did it ever work?
[03:49] <zibrah3ed> same thing
[03:50] <soulrider__> it used to
[03:51] <zibrah3ed>  At what speed did you burn the livecd
[03:51] <Mena> Why my kubuntu every time i try to start it it do system check and while checking root part give message fail and system will be restart in 5 seconeds
[03:51] <johny> soulrider: Do you know what language was it written in by chance?
[03:51] <soulrider> no idea
[03:51] <Mena> and every time restart and i tried recovery mode do same thing
[03:52] <BloodyTux> whats a good im thing besides kopete and gaim?
[03:52] <Mena> nothing as i guess
[03:52] <anon32> BloodyTux, konversation
[03:52] <johny> Mena: Have you tried to check the root partition?
[03:52] <BloodyTux> k
[03:52] <Mena> johny, i cant
[03:52] <BloodyTux> wait, konversation is for irc
[03:52] <korobase> carutsu:maybe we must using thunderbird from source's building.I download the binary and find there is a share lib error while run this program.
[03:53] <anon32> OMG, mozilla's build reqs say that compiling Firefox needs over 1GB RAM!
[03:53] <Mena> johny, in recovery mode it do fsck imeddiatly
[03:53] <zibrah3ed> Mena go to /etc/fstab and edit the tail of your root partition to "0 0" instead of "0 1" will shut off self che
[03:53] <carutsu> korobase: er, ok, im downloading it
[03:53] <johny> Mena: you could use a live version...and do a normal check from console
[03:53] <sam_> does anyone know how to set in config .the number of desktops to start with?
[03:53] <Mena> zibrah3ed, and this wth LiveCd ...ok
[03:54] <zibrah3ed> si'
[03:54] <Mena> johny, i wil ltry if didnt work i will do zibrah3ed way >>> :) thanks
[03:54] <zibrah3ed> its a hack and really won't solve your problem but will let you find out if your hd is trashed
[03:55] <zibrah3ed> if hd ok it will boot
[03:55] <Mena> zibrah3ed, ok
[03:55] <johny> sam_: Maybe just checking the settings where those desktops are located will set them by default...
[03:55] <Mena> Bye
[03:55] <Mena> Thanks
[03:55] <zibrah3ed> hol
[03:55] <johny> Mena: bye
[03:56] <korobase> Bye,all
[03:56] <sam_> johny: it's a strange one...used kcontrol and changed them..everytime i log back in have 2 instead of 4
[03:56] <johny> sam_: Then asking in #kde may help...
[03:56] <sam_> doh....whoops...wrong chnnel
[03:57] <mahdi> anybody else had problems with samba after upgrading to fiesty? all my shares stopped working
[03:57] <johny> sam_: It's ok :-D
[03:57] <sam_> doh
[03:58] <Phantasee> Yeeha!
[03:58] <Phantasee> I have a small issue.
[03:58] <zibrah3ed> ....
[03:58] <johny> go ahed then --:D
[03:58] <Phantasee> I'm wondering how I can find out what libraries come with Kubuntu dapper
[03:59] <Phantasee> so that i can just get the ones i need that don't come with it. the kubuntu rig isn't connected to the internet
[03:59] <Phantasee> so it's an issue for me.
[03:59] <zibrah3ed> are you trying to upgrade?
[04:00] <Phantasee> no, i'm trying to install a bunch of applications.
[04:00] <Phantasee> some games, some more serious programs.
[04:00] <zibrah3ed> that aren't part of the base system?
[04:00] <Phantasee> I would assume they aren't, because I get messages telling me the required libraries are missing.
[04:01] <Phantasee> oh, no, the applications aren't part of the base system.
[04:01] <zibrah3ed> do you have acess to a usb key
[04:01] <Phantasee> I lost mine. =(
[04:01] <zibrah3ed> damn
[04:01] <Phantasee> I usually just burn everything to a blank CD-R, since I have a few of them lying around, but obviously I can't just keep doing that.
[04:02] <zibrah3ed> well what i do to my comps that are off network is   to d/l the .debs and use apt to install the local packages
[04:02] <Phantasee> Say, if my USB key was a U3 smart drive, would that work very well with linux?
[04:03] <zibrah3ed> out of my league
[04:03] <Phantasee> i did dl the debs. i burned them all to cd, and when i copied them to the hdd, i tried to use the install programs menu
[04:03] <redfive> anyone know how to get nspluginwrapper wo work?
[04:03] <Phantasee> but i had to right click to install the packages.
[04:03] <zibrah3ed> you need to add the cd in the repositories
[04:04] <Phantasee> i'm sorry?
[04:04] <zibrah3ed> you were trying to se adept correct
[04:04] <zibrah3ed> use
[04:04] <Phantasee> yeah. i think. i'm fairly certain.
[04:05] <zibrah3ed> go to adept-->manage repositories
[04:06] <zibrah3ed> on title bar of adept
[04:06] <carutsu> korobase: I downloaded from the site
[04:06] <Phantasee> okay.
[04:06] <carutsu> korobase: and it works perfectly
[04:07] <Phantasee> so then i have to make it think the cd is a repository, which lets it install properly?
[04:07] <carutsu> Korobase: may be you dont have some libraries? I must tell you i already have Thunderbird 1.5, may be that's why i have the needed libraries, i dont know
[04:07] <zibrah3ed> should popup a window
[04:07] <Phantasee> the issue is a lot of the programs had a long list of required libraries, but i assumed they came with kubuntu.
[04:07] <zibrah3ed> go to 3rd party software
[04:07] <Phantasee> aye
[04:08] <zibrah3ed> then at bottom add cdrom
[04:08] <Phantasee> k, i'll give that a shot
[04:08] <zibrah3ed> never tried it on feisty but worked on dapper
[04:08] <Phantasee> but i had copied the contents of the cd to the hdd. so everything on it was already available.
[04:08] <zibrah3ed> where did you copy it too
[04:09] <Phantasee> my home folder, in a sub folder, actually
[04:09] <Phantasee> i right clicked, and it gave me an option to install the packages, which it did, in a small white window
[04:09] <zibrah3ed> unless you point adept there it won't see them
[04:09] <Phantasee> it installed a lot of them, but some said they needed certain libraries
[04:09] <Phantasee> like celestia, for example.
[04:10] <Phantasee> it's in the games section, i believe, but i thoought it would be interesting to see what the program could do, so i got that
[04:10] <zibrah3ed> did you meet all the dependencies
[04:10] <Phantasee> along with the files
[04:10] <zibrah3ed> thats the trouble d/l single debs
[04:11] <Phantasee> i dont' think i did, which is why i want to know how i can find out what libraries dapper comes with, so i can get the ones i dont have.
[04:11] <thony> hi
[04:11] <gtrplr> is there a way to roll back updates/upgrades ?
[04:11] <gtrplr> back to a "fresh install" state ?
[04:12] <zibrah3ed> check out /etc/apt/sources.list and go throug the servers to find your file
[04:12] <gtrplr> without reinstalling
[04:12] <gtrplr> ah
[04:12] <gtrplr> hadnt thought of that
[04:13] <Phantasee> sorry, where would that be? on the machine running it? or is it on the internet?
[04:13] <zibrah3ed> you would need to use the inernet
[04:13] <ubuntu> hello
[04:13] <BloodyTux> hi
[04:14] <zibrah3ed> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[04:14] <dwidmann> :O seems we can now preorder Hitachi 1TB drives for $399
[04:14] <Phantasee> ah
[04:14] <zibrah3ed> will be an ftp site
[04:15] <thony> new to linus stuffy
[04:15] <thony> ...linux i mean
[04:15] <zibrah3ed> linus was good
[04:15] <Phantasee> i'm not sure what i'm looking for here...
[04:15] <zibrah3ed> name of the creator
[04:16] <thony> mmmmmmmmmmh
[04:16] <Phantasee> @dwidmann where can we preorder the drives? and that's US$?
[04:16] <dwidmann> Phantasee: let me check, friend linked me to it, yeah USD
[04:18] <mahdi> is there any good replacement for samba?
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> mahdi, as far as i know, samba's it if you want to talk to win machines
[04:18] <_4strO> mahdi: samba ^^
[04:18] <HymnToLife> mahdi, for file transfers, FTP
[04:19] <HymnToLife> samba is awfully unreliable, especialy on the Windows side
[04:19] <mahdi> i'd rather a stable file sharing protocol, but after i upgrade to fiesty it sh*t the bed
[04:19] <mahdi> i tried working around with ftp and didn't get it
[04:19] <Phantasee> well, i'll have a poke around, thanks a bunch zibrah3ed!
[04:19] <zibrah3ed> windows in a vm
[04:20] <zibrah3ed> k
[04:21] <mahdi> is there a good how-to on running a local ftp server?
[04:21] <dwidmann> gah, I think my Kopete logging is messed up :\
[04:23] <mahdi> i nabbed gproftpd but i didn't quite get it, and the documentation is for people who know what they are talking about.
[04:23] <zibrah3ed> lo
[04:23] <_4strO> http://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html
[04:24] <Jucato> dwidmann: how is it messed up?
[04:25] <dwidmann> Jucato: history seems to have disappeared as an option, much to my dismay
[04:25] <mahdi> any folder i try to share, when i navigate to it, says "blah/blah/blah does not exist"
[04:25] <dwidmann> wait, it's back again, seems to be tied to my online status o.O
[04:25] <Jucato> O.o
[04:26] <_4strO> mahdi: http://www.vsftpdrocks.org/ and http://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html
[04:26] <_4strO> mahdi: for vsftpd configuration
[04:26] <dwidmann> Even  more helpfully, my previous history doesn't seem to be available
[04:26] <mahdi> thanks, taking a look at it
[04:27] <Jucato> dwidmann: aw... :/
[04:27] <dwidmann> I wonder if I missed some chowning/chmodding when I moved everything over to my shiny new etch install
[04:28] <dwidmann> at any rate, I have andrew hunting down where he found the link to the hitachi 1TB drive ...
[04:29] <Markeda> Um, does Kubuntu 7.04 come with the stuff needed to install a program from the source (or whatever .tar.gz files are)?
[04:29] <Sleepy_Coder> I think I might have too much free time:  http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/photoricon/too_much_free_time.jpg
[04:30] <dwidmann> seems stuff is all over google for it though, ... maybe the one page was an old one, because here is a review of it http://www.pcworld.com/product/specs/id,29924-c,harddrives/specs.html
[04:30] <Mena> Is there a bug  abot running Gparted on kubuntu
[04:30] <Mena> about
[04:30] <HymnToLife> Mena, not that I know of
[04:30] <HymnToLife> do you have a problem running it ?
[04:31] <Mena> HymnToLife, NEVER MIND IT OPENED NOW
[04:31] <Mena> HymnToLife, why they didnt include qparted on the installtion
[04:32] <Jucato> Mena: QtParted is included in the Desktop (Live) CD but isn't installed by default when you install Kubuntu
[04:33] <Mena> Jucato, OK
[04:33] <Jucato> (probably based on the presumption that you don't always reformat/repartition your drives)
[04:34] <Mena> Jucato, ok
[04:34] <Mena> ok thanks bye
[04:35] <mahdi> oh good lord did vsftpd give me ten thousand make errors
[04:35] <voidmage> argh.
[04:36] <voidmage> for the third time firefox has crashed and "forgotten" my open tabs
[04:37] <mahdi> !pastebin
[04:37] <mahdi> still haven't figured out how to use that dumb bot.
[04:38] <morvok__> anyone farmiliar with Silo?
[04:39] <dwidmann> Sleepy_Coder: You do have too much free time, can I borrow some?
[04:39] <parad0x`> sup
[04:39] <Sleepy_Coder> :D
[04:39] <voidmage> firefox+kde: does anybody else have random crashes?
[04:40] <mahdi> this is going to sound horribly ignorant, but how do you figure out your ip address if you're behind a router?
[04:40] <thony> morvok:SILO, the Sparc Improved boot LOader, is a booting loader program that runs from the PROM of SPARC (32-bit) and UltraSPARC (64-bit) based systems, covered by the terms of the GNU General Public Licence. It can be used for the booting of operating systems from a variety of file systems.
[04:40] <parad0x`> i do when i try and use java apps in firefox
[04:40] <dwidmann> mahdi: go to www.ipaddress.com
[04:41] <thony> http://www.sparc-boot.org/
[04:41] <mahdi> dwidmannL wow, neat, thanks!
[04:42] <stanley> anybody know how to do offline message sending in kopete using an msn messenger account??
[04:43] <parad0x`> use gaim
[04:43] <dwidmann> mahdi: you're welcome
[04:44] <dwidmann> stanley: the offline messages are a server-side thing, that's why it works with yahoo and not msn or aim
[04:44] <stanley> hmmm ok
[04:46] <Markeda> Does Kubuntu 7.04 come with the stuff needed to install a program from the source (or whatever .tar.gz files are)?
[04:46] <dac_> have ubuntu 7.04 In files in desktop, can this replace my 6.06 OC that's on my HD now?
[04:47] <scast> Can anyone please tell me what's the command to run konqueror from console like I was just clicking the System Menu and clicking Home Menu?
[04:47] <dwidmann> Markeda: no, you'll need to install the build-essential package, and probably run something like "sudo apt-get build-dep whateverpackageitisyouwanttobuild
[04:48] <dwidmann> "
[04:48] <dwidmann> scast: it's painfully obvious actually, the command to run konqueror is ... konquero
[04:48] <dwidmann> **konqueror
[04:48] <Markeda> . .. ... Odd. Seems like an odd thing not to include in an OS, but thanks for the info.
[04:48] <TheDebugger> konqueror --profile filemanagement
[04:49] <tycho> Markeda: Unless you were asking about decompressing .tar.gz files, in which case you can just use tar -xvf whatever.tar.gz
[04:49] <scast> dwidmann: it's not the same windows that shows up when you run "konqueror" than the one you get when you go to System Menu and select Home Folder... I want the one that opens with the Home Folder.
[04:49] <TheDebugger> konqueror --profile filemanagement
[04:49] <TheDebugger> .....
[04:49] <TheDebugger> Learn to read
[04:50] <dac_> ok,ty
[04:50] <dwidmann> TheDebugger: prefix the message with their name so it highlights it in red for them
[04:50] <dwidmann> makes it harder to miss
[04:50] <scast> I guess he's having a bad day?
[04:51] <Markeda> tycho, no. I have it extracted via right-click->extract here, then went to the terminal, got into the folder and was trying to do the ./configure stuff... Trying to install sunbird.
[04:51] <tycho> Markeda: Ah, you're way ahead of me ;-)
[04:52] <thony> any knows 'baot a software used to run .exe files in kubuntu?
[04:52] <billymobile> anyone familiar with apcups on kubuntu?
[04:52] <dwidmann> thony: never heard of it, I use WINE for that
[04:53] <thony> dwidmann:lol
[04:54] <thony> sw
[04:54] <thony> dwidmann:thnx
[04:55] <scast> Heh, I can't really believe TheDebugger got mad because I missed his answer.
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> Jucato: Yes, installing an Edgy Nvu .deb _should_ work for the time being.  !nvu has info on getting a Feisty pkg eventually.
[04:57] <Jucato> tonyyarusso: heh... wasn't that something I mentioned/asked 2 days ago? :D
[04:58] <beer|drunk> what video podcast rss reader do you guys recomend"
[04:58] <Jucato> anyway, thanks. I now know where to point people's attention :)
[04:58] <Mena> Why the air temp wont work although i installed s.m.a.r.t tools and lm-senors ....what else i need
[04:59] <dwidmann> Mena: you probably havne't set up lm-sensors properly
[04:59] <beer|drunk> stdin: do you have to wait for the download, or can you watch while you are downloading?
[04:59] <Mena> dwidmann, no i did
[04:59] <dwidmann> positive about that?
[05:00] <dwidmann> lm-sensors should net you the cpu temp and motherboard temp. Granted, you have to have the physical sensors for it to work (of course)
[05:00] <Mena> dwidmann, yes
[05:00] <stdin> beer|drunk: you have to wait, but I just have it run at a certain time every day
[05:00] <stdin> beer|drunk: so it's already downloaded
[05:00] <Mena> dwidmann, it was working on edgy !
[05:01] <beer|drunk> cool
[05:01] <dwidmann> Mena: might require some re-setting up if you dist-upgraded, maybe (I doubt it though)
[05:01] <stdin> beer|drunk: it's all command line tho, don't know if that bothers you or not
[05:02] <Mena> dwidmann, what if i remove it and install again does tat would help
[05:02] <infanta> hello
[05:02] <dwidmann> could
[05:02] <dwidmann> (I make no promises Mena)
[05:02] <dwidmann> hi
[05:02] <Mena> dwidmann, ok and i have a clean installtion
[05:03] <infanta> can anyone tell me where to download the latest version of Kubuntu? iam a novice
[05:03] <dwidmann> infanta: http://www.kubuntu.org/download
[05:03] <dwidmann> I thin
[05:03] <dwidmann> k
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> Jucato: more like this morning
[05:03] <beer|drunk> stdin: not really... just never used it before
[05:04] <Jucato> tonyyarusso: oh I have my timezones wrong again :)
[05:04] <infanta> thanx dwidmann.. more power
[05:04] <Jucato> hm... novice... reminds me of Ragnarok Online... :/
[05:04] <Jucato> !download | infanta
[05:04] <dwidmann> wait, http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[05:04] <Jucato> hm.. ubotu's lagging...
[05:04] <dwidmann> Jucato: what else is new?
[05:04] <Jucato> :)
[05:04] <stdin> beer|drunk: it's quite simple, and I just set a cron job for it to check/download daily
[05:05] <beer|drunk> i will have to look it up
[05:06] <stdin> beer|drunk: it's in universe anyway
[05:06] <Mena> Thanks >>>bye
[05:06] <vecina> Why cant anyone help me
[05:06] <vecina> :/
[05:07] <dwidmann> vecina: where's your question?
[05:07] <Jucato> 1. you haven't asked your question. 2. if you did, we didn't see it
[05:07] <vecina> dwidmann: On forums, and here in the chat room for time to time for the last week...
[05:07] <hephaestus_> how can i setup the keyboard model on netbeans?
[05:07] <dwidmann> Jucato: it wasn't asked within the last 2-3 hours
[05:07] <vecina> I want to know why i have to reinstall dbus, hal and pal about every time i log on, or else everything messes up :)
[05:07] <dwidmann> ctrl + f doesn't lie :P
[05:07] <Jucato> dwidmann: I did a quick search and realized that :)
[05:08] <vecina> for example, dbus has to be reinstalled or i have no automount, and if i dont reinstall hal, nexuiz and other graphic-iintensive programs crash my computer
[05:08] <dwidmann> vecina: I've no idea
[05:08] <BluesKaj> is there an alternative to azureus and ktorrent ...ktorrent keeps crashing an azureus is a hawg ... any suggestions ?
[05:08] <vecina> Nobody does
[05:08] <vecina> dwidmann: I seem to be the only person with this issue
[05:09] <dwidmann> vecina: did you have this problem in earlier versions of ubuntu?
[05:09] <Jucato> very strange indeed
[05:09] <stdin> !torrent
[05:09] <vecina> dwidmann: No but this is a new computer....
[05:09] <Jucato> vecina: have you checked if a bug has been reported about it?
[05:09] <stdin> damn ubotu :p
[05:09] <Jucato> stdin: still on coffee break :)
[05:09] <BluesKaj> !bitorrent
[05:09] <dwidmann> vecina: it's worth a shot, see if the problem is present with something like Kubuntu Edgy, or Debian Etch
[05:09] <vecina> Jucato: i looked around, didnt see anything close to it. Except one guy had his dbus borked, but he reinstalled and that just fixed it
[05:10] <vecina> My dbus gets borked a lot
[05:10] <vecina> I also notice a lot of error messages when i log off... are those in a log file?
[05:10] <stdin> BluesKaj: just search adept for bittorrent, there are some alternatives. like qtorrent
[05:10] <dwidmann> could be, depends which programs spitting out the errors
[05:11] <vecina> dwidmann: Its complaining about my "hald"
[05:11] <vecina> hardware abstraction layer daeomn
[05:11] <BluesKaj> yes stdin thx , I'm in the process
[05:11] <dwidmann> vecina: did the live/install cd give you any trouble like that?
[05:11] <vecina> The worst thing is that sometimes when i press control-alt-backspace, the framebuffer kicks in. Im on a Radeon x700, so of course framebuffer means my monitor loses connection. :(
[05:12] <vecina> dwidmann: Well the live cd wouldnt load up because of frame buffer, i had to do a text install
[05:13] <dwidmann> vecina: ah. I still think trying with something that uses a different version of dbus/hal/linux-kernel might be worth a try
[05:13] <vecina> Why is it so hard to get a stable operating system on a SATA harddrive, AMD64, ATI Radeon x700 computer.....
[05:13] <vecina> dwidmann:Huh? like what?
[05:14] <dwidmann> vecina: kubuntu edgy, debian etch, etc
[05:14] <vecina> :( Edgy's packages are deprecated
[05:16] <dwidmann> vecina: etch's aren't
[05:16] <Jucato> well... they are a bit... but sid's definitely aren't...
[05:16] <vecina> dwidmann: Ive never used anything but kubuntu
[05:16] <dwidmann> Jucato: sid doesn't know how to be deprecated
[05:16] <vecina> dwidmann: and windoze
[05:17] <dwidmann> vecina: debian is what kubuntu is based on
[05:17] <Jucato> (old joke: Ubuntu is an African word for "can't install Debian")
[05:17] <vecina> dwidmann: *sigh* Do i really have to go through the trouble of learning a new environment just so i can get back to having a stable desktop?
[05:18] <dwidmann> vecina: It's really not going to be all that different
[05:18] <ubotu> infanta: Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[05:18] <tin> what do you mean edgy's packages are deprecated?
[05:18] <dwidmann> Kubuntu is *heavily* based on Debian
[05:18] <vecina> dwidmann: I guess... i wish there was another solution
[05:18] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <Jucato> vecina: since you've been asking already, I think it wouldn't hurt if you asked in #ubuntu-devel (not really sure how they'll take it though.. might forward you to #ubuntu )
[05:18] <tin> i installed ubuntu edgy a couple days ago and it got all the updates
[05:18] <stdin> ooh it's awake
[05:19] <tin> before i did the system upgrade to feisty
[05:19] <jjj__> whats the advantage of debian over gentoo and fedora and others?
[05:19] <vecina> tin: for example, edgy's Blender package is one version old
[05:19] <jjj__> :-)
[05:19] <vecina> Jucato: #ubuntu-devel?
[05:19] <Jucato> vecina: you have to take release schedules into account
[05:19] <tin> vecina: do you NEED blender 2.43 instead of 2.42?
[05:19] <Jucato> vecina: or #ubuntu take your pick
[05:19] <Jucato> dwidmann: it's not that *heavily* based on Debian though...
[05:19] <tin> if so, just get it from blender3d.org
[05:20] <vecina> tin: I like the sculpting tool. Plus you need the new version of Wesnoth to play it online
[05:20] <tin> you could always add fiesty's repos if you needed too i think
[05:20] <vecina> tin: Point is, you cant stay up to date without recompiling and such.
[05:20] <tin> vecina: stable > up to date
[05:20] <dwidmann> Jucato: certainly looks like it is to me
[05:21] <Jucato> vecina: though you don't need to compile blender at all
[05:21] <vecina> tin: I suppose... :/
[05:21] <tin> my server is running freebsd 5.4
[05:21] <tin> it's not "up to date" per se, but it's bedrock stable
[05:21] <dwidmann> same core packages for the most part, debian forces you to for the most part build up from scratch, kubuntu just gives a set of defaults, all  of which (give or take) can be found in debian's repos.
[05:22] <tin> i even looked up some info on upgrading to 6.x, but decided to wait anyway
[05:22] <vecina> i like the simplicity of sudo aptitude install (program), bam, i have the newest version.
[05:22] <vecina> its even in my start menu all nice and neat
[05:23] <tin> FreeBSD joker.tin.hopto.org 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Sun May  8 10:21:06 UTC 2005
[05:24] <tin> i guess non of the security errata affected it, that's the first and only kernel (and world) i've built in two years
[05:24] <tin> vecina: it is, and i'm glad fiesty handles my hardware (almost) perfectly
[05:25] <tin> but fiesty IS brandy new
[05:25] <vecina> i know :/ but i dont think this problem is normal
[05:25] <tin> my only problem is that blender doesn't display correctly
[05:26] <ririco> hello
[05:26] <ririco> anyone can tell me how can i get dc++ or revconnect for kubuntu?
[05:27] <vecina> even worse, my windows installation is actually more stable. That hurts my head.
[05:27] <vecina> of course, its got spyware all over it...
[05:29] <dwidmann> ririco: I wonder if the "dcgui" packe would be it
[05:29] <ririco> thanx dwidmann
[05:29] <lontra> does azureus work too?
[05:31] <intelikey> i've got an odd sort of "how did it do that" kind of thing going on.   on shutdown/reboot the root fs is not getting remounted,ro  but on startup it's testing as clean      ???
[05:31] <intelikey> are ext3 fs's always marked as clean ?
[05:32] <stdin> no
[05:32] <stdin> not always
[05:32] <trix`G> umm... what is the default root password for kubuntu?
[05:32] <intelikey> none
[05:32] <stdin> !root | trix`G
[05:32] <ubotu> trix`G: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:32] <dwidmann> by default the root account is locked
[05:32] <trix`G> ubotu: I know.
[05:32] <intelikey> by default there is no root password
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i know. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <trix`G> oh that's a bot lol
[05:33] <Jucato> dwidmann: nothing is "by default" when it comes to intelikey.... you should know that by now :)
[05:33] <trix`G> then how can I unlock it so I can log into root normally?
[05:33] <stdin> trix`G: read the link
[05:33] <intelikey> Jucato
[05:33] <stdin> trix`G: it tells you how
[05:33] <Jucato> hi intelikey :)
[05:33] <trix`G> stdin: thanks!
[05:33] <intelikey> oh that wasn't a slam then ?
[05:33] <stdin> trix`G: tho I don't know why you'll need a root account enabled
[05:33] <lontra> is there a way to make konqueror look like it does by default without the kubuntu fixes?
[05:34] <intelikey> or are you just grinning about slamin' me ?
[05:34] <lontra> i.e. the default konqueror profile
[05:34] <Jucato> intelikey: wasn't a slam
[05:34] <Jucato> lontra: try this http://jucato.org/kde/konq-profiles.html
[05:34] <Jucato> intelikey: likewise :)
[05:34] <intelikey> :)
[05:35] <intelikey> Jucato any thoughts on this fs question ?
[05:35] <Jucato> nope... I rarely touch fs related stuff... :(
[05:35] <intelikey> k
[05:35] <intelikey> i'll leave the networking stuff for you then.   :)
[05:36] <Jucato> hehe
[05:36] <stdin> intelikey: so when the system is halted or restarted the rootfs is mounted ro?
[05:37] <intelikey> stdin no.     i mean yes initialy it is but the startup scripts do the fs check and / says clean so it's remounted rw     but on shutdown i'm seeing an error root fs is busy and can't be remounted ro    so it's shouldn't be clean on startup.
[05:38] <stdin> hmm
[05:38] <intelikey> "it's shouldn't"   hehhe syntax error
[05:39] <jhutchins> You haave at least one system file that is hanging open.
[05:39] <stdin> maybe something has a file open (eg log files) and so it can't be unmounted
[05:39] <stdin> so then it's mounted ro
[05:40] <stdin> to prevent further writing
[05:40] <intelikey> jhutchins yeah something like that.
[05:40] <intelikey> stdin you can never umount /
[05:40] <stdin> I see it sometimes on one of my PCs sometimes, but not every time
[05:40] <intelikey> only remount ro
[05:40] <stdin> intelikey: it does at reboot, when it tries to unmount everything
[05:40] <intelikey> have to kill init to umount /
[05:41] <stdin> exactly
[05:41] <intelikey> can't kill init or kernel panics
[05:41] <jager> projectm rules my face
[05:41] <jager> omg yes
[05:41] <jager> apropos of nothing i guess
[05:41] <hsystem-x> !bad errors
[05:42] <hsystem-x> !bad
[05:42] <hsystem-x> !error
[05:42] <stdin> hsystem-x: just ask the question
[05:43] <hsystem-x> just want to see the instructions to eliminate those bad errors table in xorg
[05:43] <intelikey> net split ?    or just bot dropped out....
[05:44] <Jucato> !baddevice
[05:44] <intelikey> i can still see the startup messages       * checking the root file system....
[05:44] <intelikey>  /dev/root: clean, 26473/529056 files, 136748/1056265 blocks
[05:44] <intelikey> [ ok ]
[05:45] <stdin> hsystem-x: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[05:45] <stdin> intelikey: force a check if you want
[05:46] <intelikey> made the last process before the power off call do a touch /unclean       and   ls /
[05:46] <intelikey> UNCLEAN  boot  etc
[05:46] <intelikey> there it is... so it wasn't ro at power off.
[05:47] <intelikey> i'm just trying ot figure out how it's doing this....   i'll fix it after i figure out exactly what is happening.
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bad errors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[05:51] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[05:52] <intelikey> wow talk about lag....
[05:52] <Jucato> :)
[05:52] <stdin> only 10 mins this time
[05:52] <Sleepy_Coder> lol
[05:52] <hsystem-x> lol
[05:53] <hsystem-x> Uh i got a question, what is the name of this aplication that usually we use to kill apps, just clicking on the app.
[05:53] <intelikey> here are the last two things that run  http://pastebin.ca/466840 <<<  on a reboot.    and the  touch command is making the file so it's not ro....    why is it showing as clean on the fs check at startup ?
[05:53] <hsystem-x> kill what?
[05:54] <stdin> hsystem-x: xkill?
[05:54] <hsystem-x> yeah maybe that, let me see.
[05:54] <intelikey> xkill
[05:54] <hsystem-x> it is, thank you.
[05:54] <Jucato> hsystem-x: or Ctrl+Alt+Esc (in KDE only)
[05:54] <intelikey> poisons your mouse cursor so you can kill with a click
[05:55] <Jucato> or rather enchants your mouse cursor with poison :)
[05:55] <intelikey> "same diff"   ;p
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> mouse of killing+1 :)
[05:55] <Jucato> patch -p0 < diff?
[05:56] <Jucato> you got it hitmanWilly :D
[05:56] <intelikey> death mouse -9
[05:57] <Jucato> :)
[05:57] <stdin> intelikey: pastebin.ca is lagging worse that ubotu
[05:58] <intelikey> then it's the whole internet.....   i think there is a squerm or something hitting the M$ side of things........
[05:58] <intelikey> those wormy servers.......
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> youtube seems fine...
[05:59] <intelikey> pastebin.ca was fine for me...
[05:59] <intelikey> !botsnack
[05:59] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:59] <intelikey> and ubotu's ok now.
[06:00] <stdin> not here (UK)
[06:01] <intelikey> changed isp's last week,  the new one has been down 4 of the last 7 days....    i think the change was a bad idea....
[06:03] <hsystem-x> damn... i can't fix the bad device errors, X crash...
[06:04] <hsystem-x> and i just commented the 3 tables
[06:04] <hsystem-x> of wascom or wacom, whatever.
[06:04] <stdin> hsystem-x: and the ones in the "Section "ServerLayout"" ?
[06:04] <intelikey> hsystem-x and the three referances to them later on ?
[06:04] <hsystem-x> let me see.
[06:04] <flaccid0s> quite annoying hey
[06:06] <intelikey> flaccid0s  http://pastebin.ca/466840    how can / be clean on startup if it's making /UNCLEAN at shutdown ?
[06:06] <hsystem-x> Section "ServerLayout"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	Identifier	"Default Layout"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	Screen		"Default Screen"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard"
[06:06] <stdin> !paste
[06:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	InputDevice     "stylus"	"SendCoreEvents"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	InputDevice     "cursor"	"SendCoreEvents"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	InputDevice     "eraser"	"SendCoreEvents"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	InputDevice	"Synaptics Touchpad"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> EndSection
[06:06] <hsystem-x> what reference on server layout?
     InputDevice     "stylus"        "SendCoreEvents"
     InputDevice     "cursor"        "SendCoreEvents"
     InputDevice     "eraser"        "SendCoreEvents"
[06:07] <souza> boa noite
[06:07] <flaccid0s> hsystem-x: stop it!!!
[06:08] <flaccid0s> dunno intelikey
[06:09] <Alonea> anyone ever installed ie6 on wine? I can't seem to get it to install.
[06:09] <intelikey> flaccid0s yeah me too.   i'm buffalo'd
[06:09] <intelikey> !wine
[06:09] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:09] <intelikey> see the link
[06:09] <stdin> Alonea: ask in #winehq too, they are the experts
[06:10] <jarn> http://worldrc.wadsworth.com/
[06:10] <intelikey> also see winehq.org and check the list of things that "will not run" in wine
[06:11] <stdin> jarn: ??
[06:11] <Alonea> intelikey: its supposed to run, but I am wondering if this is an ubuntu thing.
[06:11] <jarn> Er.
[06:11] <jarn> Um.
[06:11] <jarn> I thought I copied something else, apparently not.
[06:11] <Alonea> I need it so I can try to install another problem that requires ie
[06:11] <jarn> What's the best program for managing ID3 tags?
[06:11] <jarn> That's what I thought I had copied.
[06:11] <jarn> stdin: My bad.
[06:12] <stdin> jarn: I've heard good things about easytag
[06:12] <jarn> stdin: Okay, thanks, I'll take a look.
[06:13] <jarn> stdin: I use a great program in Windows called mp3tag, I haven't found anything to rival it yet.
[06:13] <stdin> maybe it will run under wine :p
[06:13] <flaccid0s> amarok :)
[06:13] <hsystem-x> Thanks. Finaly fixed the bad device erros.
[06:13] <stdin> yeah, amarok will do it
[06:14] <hsystem-x> errors*
[06:14] <stdin> hsystem-x: it's one of the 1st things I do after an install
[06:15] <flaccid0s> amarok is good at it
[06:15] <hsystem-x> jeje, those errors are very annoying ...
[06:15] <jarn> stdin: It probably will, but I want a native Linux app.
[06:15] <jarn> flaccid0s: I find Amarok isn't as good at managing ID3 tags as I would like.
[06:16] <flaccid0s> stdin: it is native? define native in this case?
[06:16] <flaccid0s> jarn: oh well
[06:16] <flaccid0s> i mean jarn not stdin
[06:16] <jarn> flaccid0s: I was talking about running mp3tag in wine when I said it's not native, not Amarok.
[06:16] <flaccid0s> go look for something else... http://google.com
[06:17] <flaccid0s> oh
[06:17] <flaccid0s> ok
[06:17] <intelikey> a native linux app ?????    hmmm   modprobe maybe ?    not sure it's even native to the kernel....
[06:18] <stdin>  /mode #kubuntu -pedantic
[06:18] <stdin> (worth a shot)
[06:18] <intelikey> lol
[06:18] <hsystem-x> which messenger client, does you people use? kopete gaim amsn?
[06:18] <intelikey> now that was a slam.....
[06:18] <flaccid0s> yeah this is kubuntu support, not i need a program for my mp3 tags..
[06:18] <intelikey> :)
[06:18] <flaccid0s> kopete
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> gaim here hyper_ch
[06:19] <HymnToLife> kopete here
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> gaim here hsystem-x, rather
[06:19] <easytiger> i just need to say someting
[06:19] <easytiger> 09-F9-11-02-9D-74-E3-5B-D8-41-56-C5-63-56-88-C0
[06:19] <intelikey> glad you got that out of your system easytiger
[06:19] <easytiger> out of my system and into the logs
[06:20] <intelikey> yeah now go play
[06:20] <jarn> easytiger: What was the point of that? There's no need to put it in the logs.
[06:20] <flaccid0s> at least you aint working on a monster php web app that doesn't have a template engine
[06:20] <HymnToLife> maybe to search for it later ?
[06:20] <jarn> flaccid0s: Isn't an inherent part of Kubuntu support helping people convert from Windows to Linux?
[06:21] <HymnToLife> jarn, no, it's to help people with Kubuntu
[06:21] <flaccid0s> jarn: where does it say that?
[06:21] <HymnToLife> Windows has nothing to do with anything
[06:21] <flaccid0s> thats conversion, not support
[06:21] <flaccid0s> /j #kubuntu-conversion
[06:22] <marconi> oi
[06:22] <intelikey> jarn  ubuntu (linux in general) is software. not a religion.
[06:22] <HymnToLife> flaccid0s, this channel is supposed to be for support only, conversation goes in -offtopic
[06:22] <jarn> intelikey: When did I say something was a religion?
[06:22] <flaccid0s> Hy\
[06:22] <intelikey> did i just say that  ??????
[06:22] <flaccid0s> HymnToLife: it was a joke.... such a channel doesnt' even exist..
[06:22] <marconi> what is your name?
[06:22] <intelikey> never mind, i reacnt.
[06:22] <jarn> intelikey: What I meant was that should not support help people get Kubuntu set up correctly? If it can help people set up programs to play MP3s why not programs for people to edit MP3s?
[06:22] <flaccid0s> i know what this channel is for. i help people here many hours a day
[06:23] <jarn> intelikey: Where do you draw the line?
[06:23] <marconi> brazil
[06:23] <flaccid0s> where we say the line ends?
[06:23] <hsystem-x> is there a channel of kubuntu for programmers, i mean developers?
[06:23] <marconi> and you?
[06:24] <stdin> hsystem-x: the #kubuntu-devel channel
[06:24] <Tm_T> hsystem-x: #kubuntu-devel is for kubuntu devel discussion
[06:24] <HymnToLife> hsystem-x, should be #kubuntu-devs or something
[06:24] <intelikey> jarn where i draw the line, is at propritary krap.   i don't do windows.   good bad or indifferent.
[06:24] <HymnToLife> oh, never mind
[06:24] <Tm_T> intelikey: whatever pleases you
[06:25] <jarn> intelikey: Did I ask anything about Windows? No. I asked what a good program was to edit ID3 takes and specifically wanted one for Linux when someone asked if I could not use Wine for one that I like.
[06:25] <Tm_T> intelikey: I take it case by case, mostly it's just another (worse) option
[06:25] <jarn> intelikey: And Windows is just software, not a pagan religion.
[06:26] <intelikey> Tm_T sure.   hey want to look at this pastebin and see if you can see how my root fs can be rw at power off but clean at startup   http://pastebin.ca/466840
[06:26] <marconi> I am from brazil
[06:28] <intelikey> Tm_T the /UNCLEAN file is there when i power on.   but the fsck says clean and doesnt replay the journal or nothin
[06:28] <Tm_T> well, I have no idea
[06:31] <jarn> intelikey: Were you the guy that was trying to upgrade your comp straight from hoary to feisty a few weeks ago?
[06:32] <intelikey> jarn started to yes.   decided to abort because vanity was the only reason for doing it anyway
[06:32] <jarn> intelikey: So are you still at Hoary? Or are you at some horrible fusion of Hoary and Feisty? :P
[06:32] <intelikey> no
[06:34] <jarn> intelikey: No? I'm not sure that was a yes or no question.
[06:34] <intelikey> mardi that might let the smoke out of those little things on the main board.
[06:35] <flaccid0s> !hoary
[06:35] <ubotu> hoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"
[06:35] <intelikey> jarn you gave options,  none fit,  so the answer is no.
[06:35] <flaccid0s> ah ok
[06:35] <jarn> intelikey: Wouldn't the answer be "neither"?
[06:35] <intelikey> indeed
[06:38] <c1|freaky> :D
[06:38] <c1|freaky> i love kubuntu :D
[06:40] <intelikey> i've added a killall5 in the umountrootfs script i'll see if that helps.
[06:40] <hsystem-x> better compiz or beryl?
[06:40] <flaccid0s> i love it when it works :)
[06:40] <intelikey> !beryl
[06:40] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:41] <intelikey> !compiz
[06:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:41] <hsystem-x> ok, but im asking for your opinions (experience) about those 2.
[06:42] <intelikey> not mine you're not.  i have none.
[06:42] <flaccid0s> #ubuntu-effects for all that convo
[06:52] <intelikey> or part of one.
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> mmmmmmmmmm.......cow.......
[06:57] <intelikey> well that was a lot of beef....   i wish jucato had the other half of that steak....
[06:58] <intelikey> shame we can't dcc send things like that.....
[06:59] <flaccid0s> what about me?
[06:59] <intelikey> gendi can get you come coffee   ?
[07:00] <Jucato> thanks for the beef... I guess I'll ask *genii* for some tea...
[07:00] <Jucato> flaccid0s: if your nick means you're using MS-DOS, then you don't deserve any :P
[07:00] <intelikey> lol
[07:00] <flaccid0s> hahahaha
[07:01] <intelikey> ##plesk #plesk ##opera #pcbsd    mmmmmmm
[07:01] <flaccid0s> nah im just in a hispanic mood :p
[07:01] <flaccid0s> mmm?
[07:01] <Jucato> eeek #opera... you definitely don't deserve any beef :P
[07:01] <flaccid> haha
[07:01] <flaccid> it eats other browsers for breakfast and still remains at ~5MB
[07:01] <Jucato> hm... maybe it's time I took that pc-bsd I got for free out of the shelf...
[07:02] <flaccid> no wonder they don't release the source code...
[07:02] <intelikey> beets bloat-zilla
[07:02] <AussieHatter> I cannot umount my ipod,  /dev/sdc2, it tells me /media/ipod is busy though its not.  nothing is opened, no terminal window, no gui, any ideas ?
[07:03] <Alonea> anyone have any luck in either getting IE 5 or 6 installed in wine or at least making it so if you were to install another program that looks for IE that it thinks its their? Its mentioned in the Useful registry keys and mentions how you might need dlls, but not which dlls.
[07:03] <intelikey> AussieHatter is there an icon on the desktop for it ?
[07:03] <Jucato> Alonea: tried ies4linux?
[07:03] <Jucato> Alonea: http://www.tatanka.com.br/
[07:04] <AussieHatter> intelikey: no, the dvd drive icon is on the desktop, which has a disk in and is mounted but thats it
[07:04] <Alonea> Jucato: I don't need the browser to work, and I do have ies4linux, I just need it so I can try installing Musicmatch, which looks to see if IE is installed or no
[07:04] <Alonea> Jucato: trying to install Musicmatch in wine.
[07:04] <flaccid> ah
[07:04] <Jucato> oh ok...
[07:04] <flaccid> its a question of how it checks
[07:05] <intelikey> AussieHatter try ejecting it.
[07:05] <Alonea> Jucato:  http://wiki.winehq.org/UsefulRegistryKeys, look near the bottom at the top of the HKLM section and see where it talks about making an app believe its installed?
[07:06] <Etokura> Why Musicmatch?
[07:06] <tititmini> can you help me guys
[07:06] <tititmini> pleaseeee....
[07:06] <erikja> !nvidia
[07:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:06] <flaccid> !ask
[07:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:07] <tititmini> my amarok cant play mp3 files....
[07:07] <tititmini> what should i do
[07:08] <intelikey> have you been to the wiki's ?
[07:08] <intelikey> !mp3 | tititmini
[07:08] <ubotu> tititmini: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:08] <tititmini> yup
[07:08] <tititmini> they told me to download a plugins
[07:08] <Etokura> sudo apt-get install easyubuntu
[07:08] <Tm_T> Etokura:
[07:08] <Etokura> Hm?
[07:09] <flaccid> and..?
[07:09] <Jucato> !easyubuntu
[07:09] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[07:09] <Tm_T> Etokura:
[07:09] <AussieHatter> intelikey: cd is unmounted and eject, still kubuntu thinks /dev/sdc2 is busy
[07:09] <intelikey> AussieHatter no i meand try ejecting the device
[07:09] <intelikey> AussieHatter   sudo eject /dev/sdc2
[07:10] <Jucato> tititmini: install the package named "libxine-extracodecs"
[07:10] <intelikey> s/meand/meant/
[07:10] <Alonea> Etokura: On Demand service.  I have so many tabs that I usually don't look at things that dont have the name in it.
[07:12] <intelikey> just another vote against automatic krap
[07:13] <AussieHatter> intelikey: that did it.
[07:13] <intelikey> what was using it AussieHatter ?
[07:13] <AussieHatter> intelikey: so for some reason a terminal was attached to the mounted device ?
[07:14] <AussieHatter> intelikey: two terminals weer open
[07:14] <AussieHatter> which were both in the /  directory
[07:14] <intelikey> if you open a terminal and cd into a mountpoint the device is then busy for the duration of your stay
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> brb
[07:15] <AussieHatter> intelikey: i know, but only if you are in the mounted directory
[07:15] <AussieHatter> they both were not in the mounted directory
[07:15] <flaccid> not when you can't get rid of locks. use umount -l
[07:15] <flaccid> not=note
[07:15] <intelikey> AussieHatter version ?
[07:15] <AussieHatter> kubuntu feisty fawn
[07:16] <intelikey> most probably something they have changed in the terminal emulator
[07:16] <AussieHatter> intelikey: its the standard one in utilites -> terminal
[07:17] <intelikey> AussieHatter every time people say things like " but why doesn't it do that for me "   brand new sets of problems are intorduced as a result...
[07:18] <AussieHatter> intelikey: how can i get a normal bash shell in kubuntu ?
[07:18] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+f1
[07:18] <AussieHatter> omg.
[07:18] <AussieHatter> you might have said that drops me out of the kde :)
[07:18] <intelikey> AussieHatter alt+f7  back to the gui
[07:19] <AussieHatter> ah
[07:19] <AussieHatter> thx
[07:19] <intelikey> :)
[07:19] <flaccid> bash is default shell
[07:19] <flaccid> or type bash
[07:19] <intelikey> type bash ?
[07:19] <intelikey> type bash
[07:19] <intelikey> bash is /bin/bash
[07:19] <AussieHatter> flaccid: you are right, the terminal and the shell are different
[07:19] <flaccid> yeah which is in path
[07:19] <AussieHatter> i was calling the terminal the shell
[07:20] <flaccid> ah you want tty not pts
[07:20] <AussieHatter> so maybe i dont use the terminal supplied with kde
[07:20] <flaccid> kde doesn't have a term. it has terminal emulator(s)
[07:20] <Sleepy_Coder> Er....I don't think that has much to do with it. :)
[07:20] <intelikey> AussieHatter you can install other terminal emulators like     rxvt   xterm  aterm  eterm ....
[07:21] <flaccid> i just use xterm, yakuake and konsole emulators
[07:21] <intelikey> the list is long.   but the point is that   rxvt "should" not be affected by the new changes.
[07:21] <AussieHatter> i suppose there is a kde setting as to which terminal to use ?
[07:21] <flaccid> you mean emulator
[07:22] <AussieHatter> right.
[07:22] <Jucato> System Settings -> Default Applications -> Terminal Emulator
[07:22] <intelikey> i suppose.   i don't use a gui enough to keep up with that sort of thing.
[07:22] <AussieHatter> the default one is konsole
[07:23] <flaccid> try yakauke for fun. its a konsole in quake style drop down thing
[07:23] <flaccid> !info yakuake
[07:23] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[07:23] <AussieHatter> actually, help says its the gnome terminal 2.18.0
[07:23] <flaccid> yuck :p
[07:24] <flaccid> i gtg home
[07:24] <flaccid> bbs
[07:24] <intelikey> AussieHatter and BTW  that console you were in.  (crtl+alt+f1) there are six with getty running on them by default and you can open literally hundreds.   alt+f[0-2] [0-9]
[07:25] <intelikey> i think the default limit is 256.  but that can be raised.
[07:26] <intelikey> alt+left/right-arrow  for stepping through them...
[07:26] <AussieHatter> intelikey: right, thx, i forget about them when in the GUI
[07:26] <intelikey> and     openvt -fsc #
[07:27] <Etokura> Is there a command to have your password shown to you in a terminal?
[07:27] <intelikey> Etokura no
[07:27] <Etokura> Agh
[07:27] <intelikey> Etokura you can change it there.
[07:27] <intelikey> if you know it.
[07:27] <intelikey> passwd
[07:28] <Etokura> That's the thing, I accidentally changed it to a typo'd version of what I needed
[07:28] <intelikey> and can't sudo -i
[07:28] <intelikey> if you can gain root access   you can    passwd username
[07:29] <intelikey> or should i say   passwd <username>
[07:29] <Etokura> Ah ok
[07:29] <intelikey> but if you can't access root  you're in for a reboot to bash init
[07:31] <intelikey> this thing would reboot really fast if it didn't have to reset the scsi bus twice...
[07:32] <AussieHatter> gtkpod will not delete from my ipod, it seems because it does not sudo before rm any ideas ?
[07:34] <Etokura> Er
[07:34] <Etokura> I have to log in to create a user
[07:35] <intelikey> that did it.   adding an killall5 prior to the remount fixed it.
[07:36] <intelikey> i could cut the boot time by about half by building a new kernel.
[07:37] <intelikey> AussieHatter did anyone answer you while i was gone ?
[07:43] <AussieHatter> it seems rhythmbox will work with the ipod
[07:43] <AussieHatter> damn.  now the whole system just froze.
[07:43] <intelikey> that's ugly.
[07:43] <AussieHatter> for the 3rd time in a week.  any clues on how to find out what program crashed ?
[07:44] <AussieHatter> ctl alt f1. wont work
[07:44] <[_uplink_] > HELLO
[07:44] <AussieHatter> cntl alt backspace. nope
[07:44] <AussieHatter> frozen.
[07:44] <intelikey>  runners    http://pastebin.ca/466931    ! spinners
[07:44] <intelikey> AussieHatter alt+sysRQ+E
[07:45] <AussieHatter> intelikey: nothing
[07:45] <intelikey> AussieHatter if magic sysRQ can't help then it's toast     or that's been my luck anyway
[07:46] <AussieHatter> toast.
[07:46] <AussieHatter> hopefully mounted ipod is fine.
[07:46] <AussieHatter> grrrr
[07:46] <intelikey> AussieHatter yeah hopefully.     after the reboot.  look in the logs.
[07:48] <intelikey> not any real hope of finding an error message saying  "kernel message: i can't write to the hd now.... and i'm paniced..."   cause,  ah it can't write....
[07:48] <AussieHatter> intelikey: the box is still up
[07:48] <AussieHatter> intelikey: i can ping it
[07:48] <AussieHatter> though i havent enabled ssh server on it, so i cant get in
[07:49] <intelikey> AussieHatter really?    you can ping it but keyboard has no response.
[07:49] <intelikey> then there may be something in the logs
[07:50] <AussieHatter> intelikey: yes
[07:50] <AussieHatter> mouse disappeared
[07:50] <Etokura> Wow.. This phone has great speakers
[07:50] <intelikey> more than one ?
[07:50] <Etokura> Two
[07:50] <Etokura> The sound is very crisp
[07:51] <intelikey> candy
[07:51] <Etokura> And with expandable memory via microSD, it could be an mp3-player replacement
[07:51] <Etokura> I just need a 2.5mm - 3.5mm adapter jack
[07:52] <intelikey> will it do ogg vorbis?  if not just keep it.
[07:53] <Etokura> Yeah
[07:53] <Etokura> If you believe
[07:55] <AussieHatter> the last thing in syslog is network manager: updating allowed wireless network lists
[07:55] <intelikey> i have put several casetes on cd    things from "back in the day"  that are worth keeping,   one cd can hold a ton of .ogg's  like 8 or 9 hours per cd   and good quality
[07:55] <AussieHatter> oops, no that was safter reboot
[07:56] <Etokura> Ooh
[07:56] <Etokura> I would use ogg but I'm not sure if this phone supports it
[07:56] <Etokura> I should check
[07:57] <intelikey> you should check
[07:57] <Etokura> I just finished remixing a song to make it suitible for use as a ringtone
[07:58] <intelikey> did i mention   http://pastebin.ca/466931 ?
[07:58] <intelikey> yeah i did.  sorry.
[07:58] <Etokura> What does it do?
[07:59] <intelikey> replaces spinners
[07:59] <Etokura> What are spinners?
[07:59] <intelikey> in place of   \ | / -   in one spot you get a runner going back and forth   ----!
[08:00] <intelikey>    !-----
[08:00] <intelikey> it's a "do nothing"  ever seen one before ?
[08:01] <Etokura> Interesting
[08:01] <jujimufu> I liked spinners
[08:02] <intelikey> yeah.  but not for a network connection.  runners are more believable there
[08:02] <jujimufu> indeed
[08:03] <intelikey> any way just thought i'd share it,    didn't want to keep it all to my self
[08:03] <jujimufu> lol :P
[08:03] <intelikey> :)
[08:03] <jujimufu> thanks for sharing, then :D
[08:04] <Alonea> oh! I forgot to say that in Fiesty, the problem with my computer not shutting down due to fglrx thing for ati cards is no longer happening! I can actually shut down normally now, though sometimes it shutsdown a bit on the slow side.
[08:05] <korobase> I want to install a cvs server in my computer.Which package was what I need?
[08:07] <intelikey> Alonea idk.  maybe   cvsd - chroot wrapper to run `cvs pserver' more securely
[08:07] <epimeth> gooood morning :-)
[08:07] <intelikey> sorry.  ! Alonea      korobase ^
[08:07] <intelikey> epimeth
[08:07] <Alonea> intelikey: ^__^
[08:08] <Alonea> epimeth: morning. tis night for me...
[08:08] <epimeth> Alonea: sorry to hear that....
[08:08] <epimeth> :-)
[08:08] <intelikey> yes be night is light no?
[08:08] <underdog5004> wow... www.digg.com has been taken down...all this in response to a rash of articles regarding the HD-DVD decryption key!
[08:09] <intelikey> underdog5004 ?
[08:09] <intelikey> you jest ?
[08:09] <underdog5004> check it
[08:09] <dwbell> no jest
[08:10] <underdog5004> people just kept posting the HD-DVD decryption key, and basically making a fuss, and they shut it down (temporarily?)
[08:10] <underdog5004> of course the HD-DVD/AACS people are big sponsors of digg, so...
[08:10] <epimeth> so here's a question... I installed beryl yesterday.... everything was fine.  I booted up the comp just now and noticed 2 problems:
[08:10] <underdog5004> on another not, I really like vim
[08:10] <underdog5004> epimeth, no window decorations?
[08:11] <epimeth> lol yes
[08:11] <kristjan_> underdog5004: I don't see where notice about hd-dvd being the reason for shut down
[08:11] <epimeth> that and my system tray has one row of icons instead of 2
[08:11] <underdog5004> kristjan_, trust me, that's what it was
[08:11] <underdog5004> kristjan_, there were articles popping up faster than the admins could delete them...the whole front page was filled with articles about the key
[08:11] <os2mac> !java
[08:11] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:12] <underdog5004> epimeth, h/o, lemme grab the url for the fix
[08:12] <intelikey> system tray.    heh      icons  hah   :)
[08:12] <underdog5004> epimeth, you're on edgy, yeah?
[08:12] <epimeth> so I started beryl manager and the window decorations are showing up now, but not on the windows that were open
[08:12] <epimeth> no, feisty
[08:12] <epimeth> like konversation :-)
[08:13] <underdog5004> epimeth, oh...nvm...I haven't had good luck w/ feisty and beryl...I upgraded then downgraded back to edgy
[08:13] <underdog5004> lol
[08:13] <epimeth> heh
[08:13] <Alonea> epimeth: heh. well, at least I get to sleep soon. Sleep is gooooood.
[08:13] <epimeth> actually, the decorations *are* there, I just can't get to it cuz its over the top of the screen!
[08:13] <Etokura> I've noticed some odd things about beryl and feisty
[08:13] <epimeth> grrrr
[08:13] <intelikey> nalioth comming or going ?
[08:14] <Etokura> Now I can only preview music in LimeWire while beryl is running
[08:14] <epimeth> so I guess the question is how do I get beryl manager to run on startup?
[08:14] <Etokura> And some tooltips don't show unless beryl is running
[08:14] <Etokura> epimeth I don't think there is a great way
[08:14] <josh_> can someone help me with grub boot loader?
[08:15] <dwbell> josh_: we can try
[08:15] <intelikey> josh_ sure
[08:15] <se7en_> somebody know how i can get amarok to work i get     amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:15] <epimeth> okay, so how do I make KDE my default window manager... I'll just manually load beryl later
[08:15] <Etokura> ou need to download libgl
[08:15] <underdog5004> josh_, what's the problem?
[08:15] <Etokura> You
[08:15] <intelikey> !grub | josh_
[08:15] <ubotu> josh_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:15] <underdog5004> epimeth, it'll be in the login screen
[08:15] <intelikey> while you type.....
[08:16] <josh_> I have never used linux before.
[08:16] <josh_> I installed ubuntu feisty faun and it has made it so that I can not log into windows anymore.
[08:16] <josh_> I can repair it myself if I can get a boot cd to load
[08:16] <josh_> but grub loads too fast
[08:16] <josh_> even if I tell the bios not to boot from hard drive.
[08:16] <josh_> grub always takes control.
[08:16] <underdog5004> click on "options" and select default session -> KE
[08:16] <underdog5004> er....KDE
[08:16] <josh_> is there a way to make a cd a boot option?
[08:16] <se7en_> Etokura: that was the first thing i tryed
[08:16] <se7en_> sudo apt-get install libgl
[08:16] <se7en_> Reading package lists... Done
[08:16] <se7en_> Building dependency tree
[08:16] <se7en_> Reading state information... Done
[08:16] <se7en_> E: Couldn't find package libgl
[08:16] <Etokura> While the grub loads hit ESC
[08:16] <epimeth> I was thinking more along the lines of through the conf files?
[08:16] <Etokura> sudo apt-get install libGL.so
[08:17] <underdog5004> !pastebin | se7en_
[08:17] <ubotu> se7en_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:17] <josh_> what will esc do?
[08:17] <josh_> stop it?
[08:17] <underdog5004> josh_, let you look at the boot options
[08:17] <Etokura> Go into the index of bottable kernels and OSes
[08:17] <Etokura> Bootable
[08:17] <josh_> and what boot option am I looking for?
[08:17] <josh_> Cd?
[08:17] <Etokura> So you can select Windows from the list
[08:17] <josh_> windows gives me and error about hal.dll
[08:18] <josh_> the only fix I can find is recovery from the cd.
[08:18] <intelikey> josh_ i don't think you can boot a cd from a standard grub prompt.
[08:18] <Etokura> When it says something like "Grub loading: Press ESC for options" Press escape
[08:18] <josh_> it gives me a list but I have several partitions.
[08:18] <Etokura> There you should find windows in the list
[08:18] <underdog5004> josh_, to make it boot from a cd, you'll need to make sure your bios is configured to do that
[08:18] <josh_> my bios says boot from cd first.
[08:19] <underdog5004> josh_, are you trying to boot from the windows cd?
[08:19] <josh_> i removed hard drive from boot options but grub still loads
[08:19] <epimeth> josh_: then the cd isn't bootable :-)
[08:19] <josh_> the cd says that it is booting
[08:19] <josh_> then grub loads
[08:19] <josh_> i just need to slow grub down by like 30 seconds
[08:19] <Etokura> You can change the countdown if that's what you want
[08:20] <intelikey> you are talking about bios  not grub
[08:20] <josh_> its like the cd cant load fast enough
[08:20] <josh_> it is spinning and saying it is loading.
[08:20] <intelikey> that's bios issue  not grub
[08:20] <epimeth> yup
[08:20] <josh_> why does grub load when bios says not to boot from hard drive at all
[08:20] <Etokura> What cd?
[08:20] <intelikey> that's a bios issue not grub
[08:20] <josh_> win xp profesional
[08:20] <josh_> ok.
[08:20] <underdog5004> josh_, if it's a windows disc, you need to hit any key to boot from the cd when you're given the prompt
[08:21] <josh_> it does not get that far.
[08:21] <epimeth> because the bios is loading the HD anyway... grub is on the HD, it can't affect the bios
[08:21] <josh_> is their a way to fix the boot.ini and hal.dll file from withing linux.
[08:21] <josh_> or its command line
[08:21] <josh_> i still want linux.
[08:21] <underdog5004> josh_, I doubt it
[08:21] <josh_> I just need windows to work too.
[08:22] <underdog5004> josh_, maybe copy the recovery ones over the corrupted files
[08:22] <josh_> The web says something about chainloading
[08:22] <josh_> is that automatic
[08:22] <josh_> or is that the problem with the windows not booting.
[08:22] <intelikey> josh_ might copy over a good copy of the files in question....    i don't know.
[08:22] <josh_> i will try that.
[08:22] <underdog5004> I know,  somewhere, there's a folder on your hard-drive that stores "vanilla" versions of essential files
[08:23] <josh_> i386?
[08:23] <jlilly> Having a bit of a problem. I'm trying to install ubuntu-restricted-packages, but the java install fails. I run it manually and I get a conflict:  sun-java6-plugin: Depends: sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-2ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[08:23] <underdog5004> can't remember where, though...try booting into linux and searching for recovery on the windows partition...
[08:23] <intelikey> josh_ chainloader+1 is a grub opetion it tells grub to turn the boot process over to the next device
[08:23] <josh_> ok that makes sense.
[08:23] <josh_> it sounded like it had to trick windows into thinking it had the first partition.
[08:24] <josh_> grub that is.
[08:24] <josh_> ill come back after I try that.
[08:25] <josh_> bye
[08:25] <underdog5004> good luck!
[08:25] <intelikey> i have listings in my menu.lst file (grub's rc)   that go to each hd
[08:25] <intelikey> title MBR (hd2)
[08:25] <intelikey>         root    (hd2)
[08:25] <intelikey>         chainloader +1
[08:25] <josh_> i saw one that shows something like that for a floppy
[08:25] <intelikey> hd's 0-5
[08:25] <josh_> says windows can be done but did not explain.
[08:25] <josh_> windows cd.
[08:25] <josh_> it was a listing in the menu.lst
[08:26] <josh_> says I cant edit cause im not root.
[08:26] <josh_> I have no idea how to switch to root.
[08:26] <intelikey> sudo
[08:26] <jujimufu> josh_: just write %B sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lt
[08:26] <intelikey> !sudo | josh_
[08:26] <ubotu> josh_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:26] <jujimufu> ah, fail for bold
[08:26] <underdog5004> josh_, type in kdesu kate /boot/grub/grub.conf
[08:27] <intelikey> !kdesu | josh_  yes use kdesu for gui
[08:27] <ubotu> josh_  yes use kdesu for gui: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[08:27] <underdog5004> he he he, command overload
[08:27] <josh_> in the places computer command line or an actual command line?
[08:27] <jujimufu> josh: alt+F2
[08:27] <underdog5004> josh in the command line of the linux distro that you're booting
[08:27] <underdog5004> listen to jujimufu
[08:27] <jujimufu> oh
[08:28] <josh_> terminal?
[08:28] <underdog5004> sure
[08:28] <stephan> hello
[08:28] <jujimufu> josh_; anywhere where you can type commands
[08:28] <underdog5004> hello, stephan
[08:28] <josh_> thanks.
[08:28] <intelikey> josh_ alt+f2 for kdesu  but use a konsole for  sudo  and cli apps
[08:28] <jujimufu> hello stephan :)
[08:28] <se7en_> is there a way to use albumart under linux same as in xp
[08:28] <underdog5004> albumart?
[08:29] <josh_> says kdesu not installed.
[08:29] <intelikey> !wine | se7en_ if it will run there
[08:29] <ubotu> se7en_ if it will run there: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:29] <jujimufu> se7en_, albumart as in, the site albumart?
[08:29] <se7en_> thumbnail view album cover underdog5004
[08:29] <underdog5004> josh_, are you using kubuntu?
[08:29] <josh_> yes
[08:29] <josh_> ubuntu
[08:29] <josh_> feisty faun
[08:29] <underdog5004> but kubuntu or ubuntu?
[08:30] <josh_> pretty sure ubuntu
[08:30] <intelikey> josh_ gksudo
[08:30] <jujimufu> that's differen thant kuburoi josh...
[08:30] <underdog5004> if it's ubuntu, type in gksu gedit /boot/grub/grub.conf
[08:30] <jujimufu> *kubuntu
[08:30] <Etokura> Ah that sucks
[08:30] <Etokura> It doesn't even recognise ogg
[08:30] <jujimufu> josh_, then why are you in this channel? This channel is for the KDE-based Ubuntu (i.e. Kubuntu) not the original, GNOME-version of Ubuntu. you should go to #ubuntu for help with that.
[08:30] <Etokura> Usually it'll show it and give an error while playing
[08:31] <josh_> i apologize i did not know.
[08:31] <jujimufu> Etokura, what player?
[08:31] <underdog5004> josh_, np, we'll still help you
[08:31] <Etokura> My phone
[08:31] <jujimufu> josh_, it's ok. It's just weird that you joined on #kubuntu while your distribution writes "ubuntu".
[08:31] <jujimufu> well, at least I find it weird >_>
[08:31] <intelikey> josh_ and if the channel is too busy in there  you can ask in here  :)
[08:31] <underdog5004> josh_, ever checked out kubuntu?
[08:31] <josh_> it asked for a password. after password gave a blank text file.
[08:31] <josh_> nope. first linux ever.
[08:31] <underdog5004> hmmm
[08:31] <Alonea> jujimufu: even though I have kubuntu I still ask in ubuntu. Also, people tend to be more helpful in here anyways as I ahve quickly found.
[08:32] <josh_> is it easier.
[08:32] <intelikey> josh_ no just different.
[08:32] <josh_> what is the difference
[08:32] <josh_> ohh.
[08:32] <josh_> it does not seem hard. just a learning curve.
[08:32] <josh_> had windows my whole life.
[08:32] <underdog5004> josh_, whoops, the file is menu.lst
[08:32] <Alonea> well, night guys