[00:44] <home> hi
[00:44] <augusto_22> alguien
[01:52] <aiena> I am trying to get tightvnc to work with kubuntu but failing. Does anyone have experience setting it up?
[01:53] <aiena> Initially I got a grey screen with a mouse.
[01:54] <aiena> then I reran the vnserver command with ' vncserver :1 -geometry 1920x1080 -depth 24 -dpi 96 -localhost' then in KRDC it appears to connect and show KDE with a rapidly spinning settings logo and then the screen becaomes a bunch of grey dots
[04:43] <vincejv> if i install kde on my ubuntu install, should i still consider it a ubuntu distro? or converted to kubuntu?
[04:45] <arraybolt3> vincejv: If you install KDE on your Ubuntu Desktop install, you will end up with a badly broken GNOME session. I would recommend against doing that.
[04:47] <vincejv> aight, too late tho, ive installed it a month ago
[04:47] <arraybolt3> oh, and it works? Nice.
[04:47] <vincejv> woth wayland lol
[04:47] <vincejv> kde wayland
[04:47] <arraybolt3> Installing KDE on a different flavor of Ubuntu won't really give you a "converted" install, but more of a "hybrid" install (or a "mutant" one if things go awry). Your KDE session would be Kubuntu, your GNOME session Ubuntu Desktop, and other sessions the other flavors, but all in the same install of Ubuntu.
[04:48] <arraybolt3> It doesn't always work to do things like that, but at least one Lubuntu tester I work with frequently is well-known for making hybrid installs like this and he seems to be able to do it just fine :P I'm too scared to try XD
[04:48] <vincejv> with latest kernel, living on the edge
[04:48] <arraybolt3> nice
[04:49] <vincejv> ill probably use bcachefs soon lol since its released on 6.7 linux
[04:49] <vincejv> truly on the edge
[04:50] <arraybolt3> Last time I tried a combined GNOME+KDE installation, things went so wrong :P nice going making it actually work
[04:50] <arraybolt3> anyway, I should stop going off-topic
[04:50] <vincejv> the unstable part really is kde+wayland but the hybrid setup works okay, ive also removed gnome and it's applications
[04:51] <vincejv> itll prolly break during distro-upgrade
[05:19] <LordDragon> hey all
[05:23] <LordDragon> im using wayland and have installed the nvidia proprietary drivers but for some reason when i check glxinfo and such, it shows opengl as using Mesa and alot of my games wont load
[05:23] <LordDragon> i can see in "Additional Drivers" that proprietary is enabled and active
[05:24] <LordDragon> i even switched to nouvea and back again to reinstall them but same resul;t
[05:24] <LordDragon> also when i open the Nvidia GPU tool, most of the sections are missing
[05:24] <LordDragon> has anyone ever heard of this problem? not sure what else i can check/do
[07:17] <user|61> How to update drivers on Kubuntu
[07:52] <skramer> There is a regression with 6.5 kernels that prevents to start VirtualBox VMs. Does anybody know a solution?
[07:52] <skramer> Meanwhile, I keep running the 6.2 kernel
[09:38] <StyXman> I'm (re)trying plasma wayland after a long time and I just noticed the session starts w/o the ssh-agent. how can I add it?
[09:41] <StyXman> this? https://forums.opensuse.org/t/plasma-wayland-etc-questions/145796/2
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:09] <x__> I have this issue where the keyboard layout in Kubuntu seems to be stuck on US layout, setting up a GB layout in setting -> input  -> keyboard does nothing
[14:09] <x__> anyone ever come across this one?
[16:01] <x__> My keyboard layout not changing to GB from US seems like an real old bug thats been closed a miloion times in Cinnamon, Kubuntu and ubuntu itself
[19:58] <x__> I have this issue where the keyboard layout in Kubuntu seems to be stuck on US layout, setting up a GB layout in setting -> input  -> keyboard does nothing
[20:04] <x__> I asked this question eralier on and got no response, am I in the correct place or is this just a hard or uncommon thing to fix
[20:19] <x__> thank god for this channel, the most useful channel on earth
[20:19] <arraybolt3> x__: sometimes it takes a while for someone who can help to see
[20:19] <arraybolt3> this is the correct place
[20:19] <x__> thankyou! there is people here, that is re-assuring
[22:43] <marvila> Is there anyone really here?


 Rik, no concern here.  I have high expectations myself.  And though Crucial products are typically very solid, they are always way behind the speed curve compared to other options.  The newer Micron RG (replacement gate) NAND along with better controllers should improve the situation, but Crucial/Micron has been too far down the perf curve for far too long.
 That, said I have 7 Micron/Crucial SSD's  across 6 machines at home and I have not had an issue (yet). :)
 Yeah, at this point I'll take solid. Besides it was reduced 30% 🙂
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Hi folks


[02:57] <bluesabre> slangasek: thanks for the merge! :)
[02:59] <bluesabre> who should I reach out to for updating nusakan? Following along with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Germinate/ConvertingToGit step 10...
[03:00] <tsimonq2> bluesabre: Anyone Canonical-employed that is in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage is the "rule of thumb"
[03:00] <tsimonq2> bluesabre: (He probably already did it.)
[03:00] <bluesabre> Neat.
[03:01] <bluesabre> Time for bed now, thanks slangasek and tsimonq2 for the help
[03:01] <tsimonq2> o/
[03:07] <slangasek> bluesabre: yeah, it's done
[08:46] <acheronuk> tjaalton: has been brought up in #plasma that xorg-server 1.20 causes freezing/gltches  on some things due to yet unresolved mesa issue
[08:46] <acheronuk> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=900316
[08:46] <acheronuk> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106351
[08:46] <acheronuk> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-devel/2018-May/056829.html
[08:47] <acheronuk> maybe you are aware of that, but FYI if not
[08:49] <tjaalton> acheronuk: I know
[08:50] <acheronuk> tjaalton: ok. thanks :)
[09:19] <m4t> hi, does anyone know if there are plans to update gcc-8 on 18.04 to the actual 8.1 release? or will it remain as the 8.0 devel version?
[09:19] <m4t> i've got it from the ppa but i just saw breakage w/rt "libobjc4 : Depends: gcc-8-base (= 8-20180414-1ubuntu2) but 8.1.0-1ubuntu0.1"
[09:31] <xnox> m4t, i believe doko mentioned doing something like that. But it is yet to be determined if that will happen.
[09:31] <m4t> ok thanks
[16:45] <Odd_Bloke> I have an autopkgtest image I built using autopkgtest-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud a while ago that always has to apply a bunch of upgrades when I use it; is there a good way to update that image, or shall I just build a new one using that command?
[16:48] <nacc> Odd_Bloke: if you invoke autopkgtest-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud with the same arguemnts, it should update the image in place, iirc
[16:48] <nacc> that's how the lxd builder works
[20:31] <Odd_Bloke> nacc: Hmm, it does not appear to work that way.
[20:31] <Odd_Bloke> Oh well, no big deal.
[20:54] <tjaalton> LocutusOfBorg: if you have pending changes to vbox, maybe upload soon to build against the new xserver
[20:54] <tjaalton> "soon" being relative, and I can do that too if there's nothing else
[21:00] <nacc> Odd_Bloke: ah it's documented for -build-lxd, but not buildvm
[21:00] <nacc> seems like it should be feasibly to extend buildvm to build and/or update
[22:45] <coreycb> hello sru team, bug 1750121 has completed verification and is ready to promote
[23:09] <nacc> coreycb: it is marked as failed on bionic?


[20:27] <hjd> Could someone add a Xenial task for bug 1448164? Looks like it would be hard to patch, but might be easier to find if there's an open Xenial task for the issue.
[20:27] <ubot5`> bug 1448164 in runit (Ubuntu) "runit cannot be installed (Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1448164
[23:36] <rbasak> DOne.


[17:27] <OerHeks> nbusrone, depends on the model, check it yourself @ openprinting.org
[17:28] <teward> but it does depend on the model
[17:28] <chat-ango> there are drivers for linux from brother
[17:28] <isthisreallife> how to install Package lib32asound2 on ubuntu 15.04?
[17:29] <Helperx> i have an hp sleekbook 15-129wm the sound is so low and junkhy anyone know a fix??
[17:29] <chat-ango> ohh on debian whezzy my wifi works like charm too
[17:29] <ghc> ...
[17:30] <chat-ango> lol nobody cares about my wifi bug lol
[17:30] <OerHeks> !patience | chat-ango
[17:31] <OerHeks> isthisreallife, sudo apt-get install <package>
[17:31] <Helperx> please if anyone can help
[17:32] <OerHeks> Helperx, you might want to install a mediaplayer with equaliser, like Clementine.
[17:32] <Helperx> well i have used the puslseaudio eq but it doesnt help much
[17:32] <nbusrone> teward , OerHeks : Thanks will check on the model before purchasing :)
[17:32] <Helperx> ie for web players
[17:32] <isthisreallife> E: Package 'lib32asound2' has no installation candidate   OerHeks
[17:33] <Shockwave> hi people!
[17:33] <Shockwave> i have a big problem in ubuntu server
[17:33] <darthanubis> !ask
[17:33] <Guest8460> upgrade ubuntu server 14.04.1 to 14.04.2 and now i canot see or entrace to open audit o owncloud
[17:34] <Guest8460> upgrade ubuntu server and have problems
[17:34] <isthisreallife> :>
[17:35] <OerHeks> isthisreallife, is this on a 64 bit system?
[17:43] <Guest8460> trashed
[17:43] <Guest8460> fucku up
[17:49] <Dro__> anyone have an idea about vdr / kodi ?
[17:49] <Dro__> i'm trying to connect kodi to vdr but i always get "connection lost" error :/
[17:50] <vlt> Dro__: There’s #kodi.
[17:50] <rookie1> Hello, room.
[17:50] <Dro__> vlt, no one there :(
[17:51] <al2o3-cr>     /msg hostserv request vhost.goes.here
[17:51] <al2o3-cr>     /msg hostserv request vhost.goes.here
[17:52] <al2o3-cr> oops
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> wrong window
[17:52] <Dro__> when starting vdr it does not show "vnsiserver" in plugins, is this normal ? does it mean that vdr don't detect the plugin ?
[17:52] <al2o3-cr> yep ;P
[17:52] <ponyofdeath> hi, is there a way to get the dependancies that will be downloaded for a certain pacakge
[17:52] <rookie1> Is there a good resource for troubleshooting nework issues when running 15.05 as a guest OS?  (Unsure of the house rules/protocol, so please forgive toe stepping/accidental breakage.)
[17:53] <OerHeks> ponyofdeath, install synaptic, it has a feature to download the packages only.
[17:55] <ponyofdeath> i need from console
[17:55] <ponyofdeath> i just need the list of wget links
[17:55] <ponyofdeath> --print-uris
[17:55] <ponyofdeath> i think thats it
[17:56] <Garheade> ponyofdeath: I don't know of a way to get the wget links but you can use the '-s' switch with apt to see what dependencies would be installed.
[18:01] <Captonjamason> hey
[18:01] <Captonjamason> im having some trouble with spotify, it wont launch on 15.04
[18:02] <Captonjamason> i tryed running spotify  %u but it gave me a error
[18:04] <Captonjamason> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10928401/
[18:04] <Captonjamason> thats my terminal window
[18:04] <darthanubis> I use spotify from inside clementine
[18:05] <teward> Captonjamason: try installing `libgcrypt11`
[18:05] <Captonjamason> ill give it a shot
[18:05] <teward> Captonjamason: only guessing, though, because 14.04 has that, i can check the vivid repos as soon as my VM comes up
[18:05] <Captonjamason> i had to do this on a friends pc and i cant remeber how
[18:06] <Captonjamason> but i know that 14.04/14.10 comes with libgcrypt11
[18:06] <Captonjamason> unable to locate package libgcrypt11
[18:07] <teward> Captonjamason: yeah libgcrypt11 was dropped apparently.  try libgcrypt20
[18:07] <darthanubis> Captonjamason, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-install-spotify-in-ubuntu
[18:07] <teward> and also the item from darthanubis there might help
[18:07] <Captonjamason> libgcrypt20 is already the newest version.
[18:08] <darthanubis> Captonjamason, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/spotify
[18:08] <Captonjamason> and darthanubis i already have those put in its just spotify refuses to launch
[18:08] <darthanubis> cool
[18:09] <k1l> Captonjamason: 15.04 got libgcrypt20
[18:09] <darthanubis> http://itsfoss.com/install-spotify-ubuntu-1404/
[18:09] <Captonjamason> i found out how to fix it
[18:09] <Captonjamason> darthanubis: im running 15.04
[18:09] <darthanubis> Captonjamason, just that these links might reveal something you may have missed.....or not
[18:10] <darthanubis> there isn't that big a difference for it to matter
[18:10] <Captonjamason> 15.04 doesnt come with Libgcrypt11
[18:10] <Captonjamason> thats what i need for spotify to work
[18:10] <darthanubis> unless having systemd broke ubuntu, which I doubt
[18:10] <Captonjamason> no
[18:10] <Captonjamason> it didnt
[18:11] <Captonjamason> 15.04 uses libgcrypt20 and spotify uses libgcrypt11
[18:11] <darthanubis> Captonjamason, http://askubuntu.com/questions/613081/spotify-has-stopped-working-on-the-latest-ubuntu-today-15-04
[18:11] <k1l> Captonjamason: so ask your prop. software maker (spotify) to support modern systems
[18:11] <Captonjamason> i found how to fix it darthanubis
[18:12] <darthanubis> Yeah, the last lnk I just dropped has the fix
[18:12] <Captonjamason> i found the link that let me fix it before
[18:12] <darthanubis> but it still won't start?
[18:13] <vexoon> I had to switch back from 15 to 14.04 :( to many crashes of my usual programs and wifi was v unstable... :(
[18:13] <darthanubis> amzing
[18:14] <Captonjamason> dartanubis: no im working on installing libgcrypt11 now
[18:16] <Captonjamason> spotify works fine now
[18:24] <XenophonF> hey all - i'm running into a problem with debootstrap, where it returns the error "W: Failure trying to run: chroot /mnt mount -t proc proc /proc"
[18:25] <XenophonF> this is from the ubuntu 15.04 livecd (ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64), and i'm trying to run the command "debootstrap vivid /mnt file:///cdrom"
[18:25] <Captonjamason> hmmm
[18:25] <XenophonF> well, "sudo debootstrap...", right?
[18:25] <Captonjamason> yep
[18:25] <EriC^^> XenophonF: what are you trying to do exactly?
[18:25] <Captonjamason> let me think a sec
[18:25] <XenophonF> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 15.04 onto an empty ZFS pool.
[18:26] <XenophonF> i'm following these instructions - http://www.larsko.org/ZfsUbuntu and http://blog.ls-al.com/ubuntu-on-a-zfs-root-file-system-for-ubuntu-15-04/
[18:26] <Captonjamason> sorry XenophonF, i cant help you on this one
[18:26] <edem1> could anybody help me with apm on openbsd 5.6?
[18:26] <Captonjamason> apm?
[18:27] <CompuChip> Hi. Can someone please help me replace a broken disk in a RAID1. I am getting really confused with the output of mdstat to the point where I am not even sure which disk is broken (it is showing 5  md12* disks, with inactive sdb2[0](S), active sdb5[0] [U_], active sdb1[0] [U_], active sda5[1] [_U] and active sda[2] [_U]).
[18:27] <edem1>  i am trying to configure lidsuspend on acer aspire 4410.
[18:27] <XenophonF> do i need to mount /cdrom in the chroot?
[18:27] <Captonjamason> im checking into it edem1
[18:27] <OerHeks> edem1, openbsd is not supported here, ubuntu only
[18:28] <XenophonF> hm
[18:28] <XenophonF> i've tried everything else - i'm going to try to run debootstrap without the file:///cdrom URI
[18:28] <edem1> I know i know dont blame for that
[18:28] <XenophonF> there are dpkg-deb errors in the debootstrap log file, saying that it can't find the mount command
[18:29] <Captonjamason> have to agree with OerHeks, ubuntu is only supported here, try going to possibly #openbsd?
[18:29] <Captonjamason> go to #openbsd edem1
[18:29] <r0n> Hi guys.
[18:29] <Captonjamason> hey r0n
[18:30] <r0n> I just instaled xubuntu 15.04 on my laptop and now it's randomly shutting down.
[18:30] <r0n> Everything was fine with 14.04
[18:30] <Captonjamason> hmmm
[18:30] <r0n> Logs doesn't show anything as it's just shuts down like power surge
[18:31] <Captonjamason> maybe try going to #xubuntu
[18:31] <Captonjamason> they could help you more im guessing
[18:31] <OerHeks> CompuChip, use smartmontools to identify the failed drive, or sudo smartctl -i /dev/sdX #where X is your suspicious drive
[18:31] <XenophonF> running debootstrap without the file:///cdrom URI seems to be working
[18:31] <r0n> oh sorry I thought it was #xubuntu
[18:32] <r0n> thanks anyway
[18:32] <CompuChip> OerHeks: I am using an Ubuntu Server CD in rescue mode from a command line. Does it have these tools?
[18:32] <ioria> r0n from grub - advanced - select upstart and see  it happens anyway
[18:33] <OerHeks> CompuChip, not sure it does.
[18:33]  * Captonjamason is away: im most likely doing school, on ask if you desperetly need help
[18:33] <XenophonF> now we're unpacking the base system...good progress
[18:34] <Seveas> Captonjamason: switch off away messages.
[18:34] <Captonjamason> sorry
[18:34] <Captonjamason> didnt mean to have it on Seaveas
[18:34] <r0n> ioria, so you think it might be related to systemd ?
[18:34] <Captonjamason> fixed Seaveas
[18:34] <Seveas> thanks :)
[18:34] <CompuChip> OerHeks it is also asking me if I want to activate the Intel/DDF RAID controller and then regardless what I select if I want to enable the  Seral ATA Raid Devices. Not sure whether I should say yes or no.
[18:35] <ioria> r0n maybe
[18:35] <XenophonF> base system installed successfully!
[18:35] <OerHeks> CompuChip, not sure what to do there, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too
[18:36] <Seveas> XenophonF: are you literally using file:///cdrom? If so, try pointing it to the actual archive on the cdrom
[18:36] <CompuChip> Thanks OerHeks, heading over there.
[18:37] <XenophonF> Seveas: like /cdrom/dists/vivid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz?
[18:37] <Seveas> XenophonF: heh. if it's actually mounted as /cdrom, then nevermind, file:///cdrim *is* the correct path :)
[18:37] <XenophonF> oh good
[18:38] <XenophonF> well, i don't know what was going wrong, but leaving off the URI made it work, so whatever I guess
[18:41] <juliusn> Hi I am Iulian
[18:41] <juliusn> I need help about ubuntu server
[18:42] <Quantos> memo help
[18:43] <ubuntu437> l9: You still here?
[18:43] <k1l> !ask
[18:47] <XenophonF> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should do the right thing, yes?
[18:47] <Captonjamason> should
[18:48] <XenophonF> does anyone remember the name of the package that you need to install to get it to scan for drivers like the b43 firmware or the nvidia graphics drivers?
[18:48] <XenophonF> (i can't  believe i forgot to make a note of it the last time i installed ubuntu on this mac)
[18:49] <XenophonF> ah
[18:49] <XenophonF> ubuntu-drivers
[18:49] <XenophonF> duh
[18:50] <XenophonF> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia for future web searches
[18:53] <s0d0m> I'm trying with upstart now, keep you informed.
[18:54] <s0d0m> But fail to see why systemd would cause like that
[18:54] <Goose_> Can you run plasma 5 on 14.04?
[18:54] <ioria> s0d0m https://bugs.dogfood.paddev.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1377727
[18:54] <Fuchs> Goose_: not in a sane way, no. There are ppas for 14.10 and it's officially in 15.04,
[18:55] <Fuchs> this said, I'd heavily advise against updating to plasma 5 at the moment, I consider it far from being productively usable
[18:55] <Goose_> Lame. Thanks. I upgraded to 15.04 and put plasma 5 on there but it made my system basically unusable so I went back down to 14.04
[18:55] <Goose_> I probably won't be leaving an LTS for awhile
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> Goose_  same here, be it in vmware, had to delete the VM
[18:56] <Goose_> I mean, plasma 5 looks AMAZING. But I'll wait for the next LTS, and for the bugs to get out of plasma 5 before upgrading.
[18:56] <Goose_> When is the next LTS coming out? 16.04?
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> yes
[18:57] <darthanubis> kubuntu 15.04 was rushed and released buggy
[18:57] <Goose_> WOOOOOO
[18:57] <Goose_> It seemed like it. I had nothing but problems
[18:57] <darthanubis> while I'm having , surprisingly, no issues with ubuntu 15.04
[18:57] <ioria> lubuntu 15 seems fine too
[18:57] <Goose_> Yeah my ubuntu 15.04 was fine. But putting kubunut changed my dm, and caused all kinds of issues
[18:58] <teward> darthanubis: then file bugs against the issues you see in Kubuntu.  However, stating it's 'rushed' and 'buggy' gets you nowhere here, you have to either ask for help in solving the problem or report bugs.  (Also, #kubuntu might be a resource for you)
[18:58] <Goose_> Ah well. I'll just wait.
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> Goose_  same story, problems began with sddm
[18:58] <Goose_> Login errors for you?
[18:58] <Goose_> I was like stuck at the K loading screen
[18:58] <Goose_> Then just black screen with cursor
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> Goose_  no froze completely, unable to restore
[18:59] <darthanubis> teward, you don't know what I did, or where I'm trying to go. Preach much?
[18:59] <Goose_> :(
[18:59] <Goose_> rekt
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> but it was no production machine
[18:59] <darthanubis> I stated my opinion to recent relevant context
[18:59] <Goose_> 15.04 was very underwhelming it seems
[18:59] <teward> darthanubis: this is a support channel, a discussion channel is what you need (that's not me preaching, that's the general policy in the channel)
[19:00] <darthanubis> teward, I was addressing support
[19:00] <Goose_> He was just adding relevant context
[19:00] <darthanubis> kubuntu needs more of it
[19:00] <teward> darthanubis: you gave no questions - just that 'it's rushed and buggy'.  support starts asking for support... not saying it's buggy.
[19:00] <darthanubis> ubuntu not so much
[19:00] <darthanubis> teward, you don't know what you are talking about
[19:00] <Goose_> Relevant context, confirming what other people were unsure of. Seems like enough help for  me
[19:00] <darthanubis> stalk someone else
[19:01] <Goose_> ^
[19:01] <darthanubis> Goose_, thank you
[19:01] <Goose_> Ah well. Thanks guys!
[19:04] <s0d0m> ioria, it doesn't seem related to my bug
[19:04] <seby> ciao a tutti
[19:05] <ioria> s0d0m maybe a new one
[19:05] <Seveas> !it | seby
[19:05] <lucidguy> I used to use nomachin/nx for remote desktop control.  I believe in the newest version its more restricted, as in no longer ssh based etc.  Any other recommendations?
[19:06] <bobita> can anybody tell me why do i get some ign files when i want to sudo apt-get update?
[19:07] <s0d0m> ok, thansk for the help, i'll be fixed after a few hours if it doesn't shutdown.
[19:07] <Pharao> hello
[19:07] <bobita> anybody can answer me pls?
[19:07] <darthanubis> !pastience
[19:07] <darthanubis> !patience
[19:08] <Seveas> bobita: because those files are not necessarily required so apt-get ignores the fact that they're absent.
[19:10] <bobita> Seveas, thx
[19:11] <bobita> and my 2nd question is how can i upgrade my ubuntu 14.04 LTS to the last version? and if that version is stable and worth an upgrade
[19:11] <teward> bobita: your second question's answer would mean you have to first upgrade to 14.10, then to 15.04.
[19:12] <teward> bobita: my advice is to stick to the LTS because more and more can go wrong with each distribution upgrade
[19:12] <teward> bobita: or do a fresh installation after backing up your data
[19:12] <xangua> bobita: stable releases are considered stable, but LTS are more stable of course
[19:12] <teward> bobita: my other bit of advice is you may want to stick to LTS if you want more stability
[19:12] <teward> if you need more 'recent' / cutting edge software versions then use the later releases
[19:13] <bobita> ohh ok thx. i hoped the new versions would be better :(
[19:14] <darthanubis> bobita, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[19:16] <teward> bobita: 'better' and 'more stable' don't go hand in hand
[19:16] <teward> bobita: while stable releases are considered "stable", there are cases where it doesn't appear that way for certain hardware or other bugs
[19:18] <bobita> teward, so this means i should stick 4ever with 14.04?
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> bobita  or until the next LTS
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> like many of us do
[19:19] <bobita> MonkeyDust, any idea when it will be the next LTS? or there is no news about that yet
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> bobita  16.04
[19:20] <bios> guys
[19:20] <bobita> MonkeyDust, ohhh it will take a while
[19:20] <bios> any can help my with code writen in vala gtk+?
[19:21] <bios> nothing??
[19:21] <bobita> bios, sorry i'm new with linux i usualy need help too
[19:21] <r0n> ioria, so it just stopped again, not related to systemd then
[19:21] <darthanubis> !patience | bios
[19:22] <ioria> r0n  hardware issue , fan, sensors ?
[19:22] <r0n> don't think so everything was ok yesterday under 14.04
[19:22] <r0n> temps are ok
[19:23] <bios> my question is about develop apps for ubuntu
[19:23] <bios> sorry
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> bios  try #ubuntu-app-devel
[19:23] <ioria> r0n  do you have a toshiba ?
[19:24] <r0n> asus
[19:24] <ioria> r0n  try another kernel
[19:25] <ioria> r0n  from grub
[19:25] <r0n> I think i've got only one since it's a fresh install
[19:25] <r0n> will check
[19:25] <ioria> r0n  /boot
[19:26] <r0n> yeah just one
[19:28] <ioria> r0n  dmesg | grep ACPI
[19:30] <r0n> ACPI Warning: \_SB_.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20141107/nsarguments-95)
[19:30] <r0n> [   26.189341] ACPI Error: Field [TMPB] at 274432 exceeds Buffer [ROM1] size 262144 (bits) (20141107/dsopcode-236)
[19:30] <r0n> [   26.189344] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._ROM] (Node ffff88041f0fda00), AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT (20141107/psparse-536)
[19:32] <Guest89155> hello,anyone here?
[19:32] <Seveas> nope
[19:32] <Guest89155> :))
[19:32] <hellofriends22> Hello everyone, can anyone explain or link me on how to install software on a different drive? I have a SSD where I run Ubuntu on, but I do want to install my wine games to my HDD
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> not me
[19:33] <teward> !anyone | Guest89155
[19:33] <teward> BLAH that used to exist
[19:33] <teward> Guest89155: rather than asking if anyone is here, just ask your question to the channel.
[19:33] <teward> rather than asking if anyone is around
[19:33] <teward> then have patience
[19:33] <Guest89155> teward,this is my first time on XChat...
[19:33] <Seveas> hellofriends22: mount the drive somewhere, stick your wine games on it
[19:34] <ioria> r0n  cat /var/log/kern.log
[19:34] <teward> Guest89155: s/XChat/IRC/.  If you have an Ubuntu support question, please ask it to the channel generally.  If you don't have one, then you may want to look at #ubuntu-offtopic or ##chat for social chat channels.  :)
[19:34] <noobb> hi guys , This might not be the right place to ask this question, but seems general enough. I'm using 14.02 lts, trusty, trying to install a package (VirtualBox) which seems to require  dkms , however, i have installed that multiple times. something about a makefile, but not sure where that is. Any help appreciated!   http://pastebin.com/5GDu895P
[19:35] <hellofriends22> Seveas, will wine/ubuntu still be able to find them when I move the folder somewhere else?
[19:35] <Seveas> hellofriends22: sure.
[19:35] <hellofriends22> well, thats easier than I originally thought, thanks a bunch
[19:36] <aikidouke> noobb: and do you have linux-headers-3.10.18 package installed as the error message suggests?
[19:36] <noobb> yes, i do as far as i know
[19:36] <r0n> ioria, same acpi errors and this comes up 2 times : vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device
[19:36] <bekks> noobb: Just read the last line of your paste and install the kernel headers
[19:36] <noobb> i mean i went through the process
[19:37] <DrGrov> Who can I ask for hosting purposes for Ubuntu ISO's? Could someone PM me since I would like to contribute in some way.
[19:37] <noobb> i did install those
[19:37] <r0n> looks like it might be related to the nvidia driver
[19:37] <ioria> r0n  driver issue
[19:37] <ioria> ?
[19:37] <r0n> it's different version than 14.04
[19:37] <r0n> probably
[19:38] <ioria> r0n  if you got the 3.13 kernel we could try ...
[19:39] <aikidouke> noobb: can you run sudo dpkg -l linux* | grep ii
[19:39] <aikidouke> noobb: does the current kernel you are using match up with your header package?
[19:39] <noobb> minute
[19:39] <r0n> ioria, i'll download it to try. One thing different aswell is that i've got an unknow device in the aditional driver list
[19:40] <r0n> looks like its related to the proc
[19:40] <r0n> intel proc
[19:40] <noobb> no packages found matching linux-headers-3.10.30-031030-generic_3.10.30-031030.201402131735_amd64.deb
[19:40] <ioria> r0n  proc or graphic card
[19:40] <ioria> r0n  is embedded ?
[19:41] <r0n> embedded i think
[19:41] <noobb> Linux localhost 3.10.18
[19:41] <noobb> thats weird
[19:42] <r0n> ioria, it's i7 with nvidia card, got nvidia-prime to switch between both
[19:42] <aikidouke> noobb: try installing the headers package again, not what process you are following for installing vbox, but this one looks simple enough: http://www.linuxtechi.com/install-virtualbox-in-ubuntu-14-10/
[19:43] <ioria> r0n  you are so complicated, man :-P
[19:43] <aikidouke> noobb: sorry, meant to say Im not sure what process your are following
[19:43] <r0n> ioria, i know ! Sorry, first time for me too
[19:44] <r0n> it's so weird
[19:44] <ioria> r0n  ok
 I did this multiple times already : wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.10.30-saucy/linux-headers-3.10.30-031030
[19:45] <Captonjamason> how may one use a neat portable scanner on ubuntu?
[19:45] <noobb> then i did this sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-3.10.30 etc
[19:47] <Captonjamason> hello?
[19:47] <aikidouke> noobb: can you cat /var/log/vbox-install.log
[19:47] <Captonjamason> how can i use a neat scanner on linux
[19:49] <aikidouke> Captonjamason: I have no idea what a neat scanner is, have you tried plugging it in and seeing if it shows up as a device?
[19:50] <Captonjamason> yes
[19:51] <Captonjamason> http://www.neat.com/products/neatreceipts/
[19:51] <Captonjamason> thats what scanner i have
[19:53] <terrasapien> Captonjamason, is it plugged in via USB?
[19:54] <aikidouke> Captonjamason: according to their website, they dont claim to support linux. If it has a usb plug on it, try plugging it in. If it doesnt work, you may need to write your own kernel module or something :)
[20:00] <genii> Hm, that scanner, according to their Mac page is compatible with Fujitsu models s300m,s1500m,s510m,s1100m,s1300m, HP OfficeJet j6480, Canon Pixma mp480 and mx310   ....probably can use one of those SANE backends for it
[20:02] <c_korn> how can I enable text file thumbnails in nautilus (Ubuntu 15.04)?
[20:03] <noobb> this is in regards to my attempt to get virtualbox install on 14.02 lts, but after installing linux-headers-3.10.18 package, etc, and   installing virtual box from  multiverse which seems to be handling dependencis , I still get this this error : The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing
[20:03] <rzeka> Hello. How long does Ubuntu keep logs (auth and syslog)?
[20:04] <k1l> noobb: what gives you "uname -a"?
[20:04] <noobb> also there is no /dev/vboxdrv
[20:05] <noobb> uname -a Linux localhost 3.10.18 #1
[20:06] <k1l> that kernel is out of support anyway
[20:06] <noobb> in?well shoulh kernal aga theange i cg
[20:06] <k1l> wait, you said its a 14.04. that should never have had 3.10 since it started with 3.13
[20:07] <k1l> what is "lsb_release -d"?
[20:07] <noobb> thats true , but it didnt work with 3.10 either so i followed some old threads i suppose
[20:08] <k1l> lets please make it clear what system that is now
 what is "lsb_release -d"?
[20:09] <noobb> lsb_release -d Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[20:10] <genii> rzeka: However long is specified in the main file /etc/logrotate.conf, or in specific files under /etc/logrotate.d/   directory. Usually it will just keep 4 weeks of auth.log for instance, then rotate that to auth.log.1.gz etc and just keep incrementing the numbers.
[20:10] <k1l> install "linux-generic" then please
[20:10] <noobb> using apt-get?
[20:11] <feodoran> i cannot run "amdcccle" (command not found), however apt-get tells me the package "fglrx-amdcccle" is installed and the fglrx driver in general should be installed as well. how is this possible?
[20:12] <k1l> noobb: yes.
[20:12] <k1l> noobb: 3.10 was never a official ubuntu kernel. so you manually did stuff there.
[20:13] <noobb> yes, i was following some thread on the web
[20:14] <k1l> install the package i named. then reboot to an actual usefull kernel.
[20:16] <hutch78> where is the best place to get started learning Ubuntu? i have a little experience with CentOS but I am ready to make the transition!
[20:17] <zykotick9> !manual | hutch78
[20:18] <zykotick9> hutch78: not sure that's "the best" but it's a start...
[20:18] <hutch78> thank you :)
[20:23] <maarhart> if I reboot my laptop with the lid closed, I cannot see anything. the external display goes to sleep at some point of the boot. and also the laptop display shuts down. I need to shut down the laptop by pressing the power button. the computer boots though
[20:24] <maarhart> any solution / suggestion?
[20:28] <EriC^^> maarhart: are you using unity?
[20:28] <maarhart> lubuntu desktop
[20:29] <EriC^^> try going to settings > power or something similar
[20:29] <hutch78> im using ubuntu for my first remote server today - what directory do rails apps typically live in?
[20:30] <maarhart> the problem occurs while I see the Ubuntu logo. I tried that already EriC^^
[20:30] <bobita> can anybody tell me if i can move the subtitle of a movie forward or backward in smplayer? cuz is not sync well
[20:30] <EriC^^> maarhart: in unity there's an option about closing the lid
[20:31] <EriC^^> maarhart: type gsettings list-recursively | grep lid-close
[20:31] <maarhart> ok
[20:32] <maarhart> I have tried ignoring handlelidswitch
[20:34] <maarhart> I am booting with the lid open to try that Eric__
[20:36] <maarhart> Eric__ : I am back in one second.
[20:37] <maarhart> Eric__: ok I am back. here comes a pastebin
[20:37] <EriC^^> ok
[20:38] <maarhart> http://pastebin.com/TmN95nLA
[20:38] <feodoran> can somebody help me to figure out why ubuntu can't run "amdcccle"? fglrx is installed (at least I think it is)
[20:38] <TiK> maarhart: what did you want it to do?
[20:39] <EriC^^> maarhart: it looks ok
[20:39] <k1l> feodoran: "apt-cache policy fglrx" in a pastebin please
[20:40] <maarhart> TiK: my issue is that if I reboot with the lid closed, at some point of the ubuntu logo my external display goes to sleep and the internal display turns off.. and there is no way to turn it back on
[20:40] <TiK> maarhart: you have an external monitor so on the laptop hit Fn and mine is f8 to turn the monitor on
[20:41] <maarhart> Tik: okay, I can try, but why would I need to to that
[20:42] <feodoran> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10929944/
[20:42] <EriC^^> it resets when you restart the pc
[20:42] <EriC^^> nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:42] <k1l> feodoran: its not installed. "sudo apt-get install fglrx" will install it
[20:42] <maarhart> what resets when I restart?
[20:43] <EriC^^> maarhart: which display to use as output
[20:43] <maarhart> okay so which channel should I ask for help?
[20:43] <maarhart> it is during the ubuntu logo so I assume it has to do with systemd
[20:43] <feodoran> k1l: will it not be installed when you select fglrx in the settings?
[20:43] <EriC^^> maarhart: oh
[20:44] <EriC^^> maarhart: press esc and it should show the boot process
[20:44] <k1l> feodoran: obviously its not installed. i dont know what you selected anywhere else
[20:44] <maarhart> I can see grub in the external display for example
[20:44] <maarhart> Eric__: I tried but it does not
[20:45] <maarhart> the external display just goes to sleep. The laptop display goes off. Esc doesn't do anything
[20:45] <maarhart> I didn't try fn-f8
[20:46] <maarhart> but the computer seems to boot okay. at least the mythtv backend works :)
[20:46] <feodoran> k1l: i am not sure how exactly it is called in english, but there is this "additional drivers" dialog where I can select between x.org, fglrx and fglrx-updates
[20:46] <maarhart> I just want to be able to close that stupid lid
[20:46] <bhdr> hi, i've used two os from 2 years at the same time and before once week, my computer has a one os that is ubuntu 14.04. However i didn't used it because of errors. Sometimes i saw fatal errors, sth i saw unnecessary grub (because there is a one os, no necessary grub), so my computer start slowly than slowly. After that i have 'KERNEL PANIC' and my computer never begin 2 days. it didn't neither flash-disc nor cd-dvd. Force i've done it but i obtained same situat
[20:46] <bhdr> ion. What can i do? What is the problem? Bios or boot or sshd or something like this. Please help me!
[20:47] <k1l> feodoran: what did you choose there then?
[20:47] <XenophonF> has anyone else run into configuration errors in 15.04 with the modemconfig package?
[20:47] <feodoran> k1l: fglrx of course
[20:47] <k1l> feodoran: use apt-get now like i said.
[20:47] <k1l> feodoran: i dont know what went wrong with your GUI setting
[20:47] <maarhart> Eric__, TiK: any other workarounds?
[20:48] <feodoran> k1l: amdcccle does still not work
[20:48] <feodoran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10929967/
[20:48] <lamesa> anybody uses augeas?
[20:48] <k1l> feodoran: you need to restart the xserver at least
[20:49] <k1l> feodoran: which means, logout.
[20:49] <obscura> hey guys
[20:49] <feodoran> i restarted the whole computer
[20:49] <maarhart> okay, I gave up. thanks anyway
[20:50] <obscura> I want to start learning about linux driver programming and already started reading the book "Linux Device Drivers" which is often recommended for this purpose
[20:50] <petrvs> hi
[20:50] <aikidouke> trying to understand vim config..if I (Ubuntu 15.04) run vim as my regular user, I don't have access to colorschemes or plugins in /usr/share/vim/vim74, which is owned by root/root and is 644 perms. If I run vim as root, I do have access. I do not have a .~/.vimrc file.
[20:50] <obscura> which devices are easy to program? I want to do more than just programming virtual devices as it is done in the book
[20:50] <obscura> they can also cost something (although hopefully not too much)
[20:50] <petrvs> aikidouke: you could make one
[20:50] <k1l> feodoran: was "fglrx-amdcccle" installed too?
[20:50] <bhdr> hi, i've used two os from 2 years at the same time and before once week, my computer has a one os that is ubuntu 14.04. However i didn't used it because of errors. Sometimes i saw fatal errors, sth i saw unnecessary grub (because there is a one os, no necessary grub), so my computer start slowly than slowly. After that i have 'KERNEL PANIC' and my computer never begin 2 days. it didn't neither flash-disc nor cd-dvd. Force i've done it but i obtained same situat
 ion. What can i do? What is the problem? Bios or boot or sshd or something like this. Please help me
[20:50] <aikidouke> do I need to create my own ~/.vim directory?
[20:50] <obscura> I mean, which devices are easy to make drivers for
[20:51] <TiK> obscura: so copy that file to /root
[20:51] <aikidouke> with all of the colorschemes and plugins?
[20:51] <petrvs> aikidouke: ~/.vimrc, if you want
[20:51] <obscura> I don't want to program the device directly
[20:51] <petrvs> aikidouke: you can potentially copy root's
[20:51] <petrvs> obscura: might talk to #kernel
[20:51] <aikidouke> ok thank you
[20:52] <feodoran> k1l: it is available in /usr/lib/fglrx/bin and complaims about some problem, and that the drivers is maybe not installed (correctly)
[20:52] <k1l> feodoran: pastebin the logs/errors.
[20:53] <feodoran> k1l: do you mind if it is in german?
[20:53] <k1l> nope i dont mind. although there is #ubuntu-de
[20:54] <feodoran> k1l: i know, but I thought here are maybe more people
[20:55] <marianne> question - when you upgrade the OS through the software updater, do you lose all the things you have already installed like the flash player fix and and other codecs?
[20:55] <stacks88> nah you shouldnt
[20:55] <k1l> marianne: no
[20:56] <marianne> I'm going to need to do it twice...once to 14.10 and then to 15.04...
[20:56] <k1l> yes
[20:56] <marianne> so,I should be good ?
[20:56] <feodoran> k1l: running /usr/lib/fglrx/bin/amdcccle displays an error dialog (pastebin.com/WQ4Bxqzz ) and prints to the terminal: "sh: 1: gnome-session: not found" (I use XFCE in case it is important)
[20:56] <k1l> better have a backup when murphys law strikes back
[20:57] <stacks88> but yeah good point, make a backup of anything you feel is super important
[20:57] <k1l> feodoran: what card do you use at all?
[20:57] <marianne> k1l: nothing on it that i really need to keep, it's anew laptop
[20:57] <feodoran> k1l: HD 8750M
[20:58] <stacks88> these days, i have a remote server that is dedicated solely to storing a backup
[20:58] <stacks88> offsite backup essentially, im too paranoid
[20:58] <k1l> feodoran: and please show a "dpkg -l | grep fglrx"
[20:58] <stacks88> not sure how for years i went without an offsite backup
[20:58] <stacks88> how or why*
[20:59] <feodoran> k1l: paste.ubuntu.com/10930108
[21:01] <k1l> feodoran: see dmesg log and xorg log what is going on with that driver
[21:01] <feodoran> k1l: there is an integrated intel graphics as well
[21:03] <onemansubmarine> hello folks, I have a problem with my WLAN connection. If I close my lid and the laptop go to sleep, it won't reconnect when I reopen the lid
[21:03] <reborn> two week ago, i clean up dust in a tower desktop, because of loud fan, so it was so quiet, and then today, again loud my mom tell me, that, and i'm also deaf, but it can possible to caused by VLC Media Player, or not sure. any idea? i am running ubuntu mate 15.04
[21:04] <feodoran> k1l: dmesg paste.ubuntu.com/10930156  xorg paste.ubuntu.com/10930176
[21:05] <k1l> feodoran: [    28.193] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
[21:05] <reborn> be right back.
[21:06] <feodoran> k1l: great ... or not. what can I do?
[21:06] <k1l> feodoran: make sure you have the kernel headers installed mathcing your kernel version
[21:07] <feodoran> k1l: what is the easiest way to check this?
[21:07] <k1l> "dpkg -l |grep linux-headers" and "uname -a" should match
[21:09] <feodoran> k1l: I have 3.16.0-34 and the corresponding headers
[21:09] <k1l> feodoran: are the headers prefaced with (ii) ?
[21:09] <feodoran> k1l: yes
[21:09] <reborn> hey
[21:10] <feodoran> well without the parenthesis at least
[21:11] <k1l> feodoran: please see the logs in /var/log/apt what did happen after the fglrx install.
[21:12] <feodoran> k1l: thats a directory, which file? history.log or term.log?
[21:13] <k1l> feodoran: term
[21:14] <reborn> my computer has again fan loud, after clean up dust, i'm suspect it caused from VLC media player, not sure. any idea?
[21:15] <feodoran> k1l: paste.ubuntu.com/10930310
[21:15] <k1l> reborn: see "htop" what is causing cpu load
[21:16] <reborn> red with font -11?
[21:17] <epx998> running an lsof on a nsf mount dir shows this (deleted) flag, activation.jar (deleted)
[21:17] <epx998> What does that flag mean?
[21:18] <reborn> here's link http://imgur.com/0UzSEAA
[21:18] <k1l> reborn: sort after cpu load would be easier
[21:19] <reborn> what do you mean by that?
[21:20] <k1l> feodoran: are you sure you rebooted?
[21:21] <reborn> hey another picture, of sesnors.  http://imgur.com/4Bocg0r
[21:22] <feodoran> k1l: log file ends at 22:43, uptime is about 30 min: paste.ubuntu.com/10930372
[21:22] <feodoran> k1l: so, yes i am sure i rebooted
[21:26] <k1l> feodoran: "lsmod |grep fglrx"
[21:27] <feodoran> k1l: paste.ubuntu.com/10930394
[21:27] <darthanubis> fwiw, the oss ati/amd drivers are excellent
[21:28] <hadifarnoud> how do u comment in crontab? with #?
[21:28] <darthanubis> Could'nt run Google Earth with fglrx
[21:28] <vlt> hadifarnoud: Yes.
[21:28] <hadifarnoud> cheers
[21:29] <feodoran> darthanubis: afaik, the oss driver does not allow to switch easily between integrated and dedicated graphic
[21:29] <feodoran> darthanubis: and fglrx should result in better performance
[21:29] <darthanubis> ah, I'm on a desktop
[21:30] <darthanubis> as far as the performance that depends on the card
[21:30] <darthanubis> for 6450 it does not
[21:30] <reborn> which you running distro?
[21:30] <darthanubis> ubuntu
[21:31] <reborn> verison?
[21:31] <darthanubis> 15.04
[21:31] <k1l> feodoran: please show a "dpkg -l | grep linux-"
[21:31] <reborn> did you installed fglrx?
[21:31] <darthanubis> me?
[21:31] <reborn> yes?
[21:32] <darthanubis> yes
[21:32] <feodoran> k1l: paste.ubuntu.com/10930441
[21:32] <reborn> you were say, could not running on google earth, right?
[21:33] <k1l> feodoran: dont know then
[21:33] <darthanubis> yes
[21:33] <reborn> AMD Graphic 6450, yes?
[21:33] <feodoran> k1l: thats disappointing. but thx anyway
[21:34] <darthanubis> yes
[21:34] <reborn> i have same, let me see what's wrong went goes.
[21:37] <feodoran> what do i have to do to completely remove fglrx? maybe reinstalling afterwards helps
[21:37] <k1l> sudo apt-get purge fglrx
[21:37] <darthanubis> reborn, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870917
[21:37] <feodoran> I did that, anything else?
[21:38] <darthanubis> reborn, that's what happened
[21:39] <daswebmastri> Anyone trying Ubuntu Mate?
[21:39] <reborn> that's weird, mine does good running, and perfect. that's weird, Did you reinstall fglrx?
[21:39] <reborn> i am running ubuntu mate
[21:39] <daswebmastri> Do you have any issues with your bluetooth?
[21:40] <reborn> hey how can i reply to username?
[21:40] <daswebmastri> Uhhh?
[21:40] <kostkon> !tab
[21:40] <darthanubis> It works with symlinking and mv, and a whole lot of nonsense with the OSS drivers. I have video hardware acceleration. I'm not new to this rodeo. This is why I dropped Nvidia. My Kodi box as another 6XXXX and again, OSS driver, with flawless hardware acceleration. I don't even have to run amdcccle or whatever to turn tearfree option. Tear free out the box. Even in Kubuntu. I can use EGL, since glx will be depreciated.
[21:40] <noobb> this is in regards to my effort to install virtualbox on 14.02. at  some point in this fiasco i made the ill advised decision to install the 13.10 kernel, to get get my system back to normal, since that move didnt seem to help matters, i ran 'sudo apt-get install linux-generic' Unfortunately now the terminal window that i ran that n is now frozen with a purple text screen telling me sudo apt-get install linux-generic.
[21:41] <petrvs> noobb: 'reset'?
[21:41] <reborn> no bluebooth
[21:41] <reborn> no issue.
[21:41] <daswebmastri> It works, but it always boots turned off.
[21:41] <daswebmastri> I have to run rfkill unblock all
[21:42] <dtscode> hey guys... i ran dtscode@dtscode-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install visualboyadvance visualboyadvance-gtk but i cant find visual boy advance anywhere
[21:43] <noobb> yea, i can reset, but how do i get the original kernal back?
[21:43] <petrvs> noobb: 'reset' is a command
[21:44] <xangua> dtscode: did you run apt-get update¿
[21:44] <dtscode> xangua, no. let me try that
[21:45] <noobb> i ran reset, it didnt seem to do anything
[21:46] <dtscode> thanks xangua that worked
[22:08] <yuciyuar> is there a command forcing to overwrite files when installing via apt-get?
[22:08] <darthanubis> ?
[22:09] <yuciyuar> when i try to remove and reinstall applications, it doesnt make clean install
[22:10] <bekks> darthanubis: Whats the actual issue behind that question?
[22:10] <k1l> yuciyuar: use purge instead of remove
[22:11] <darthanubis> bekks, excuse me?
[22:11] <darthanubis> why is dash not showing my applications?
[22:11] <yuciyuar> k1l, purge doesnt clear all files that installed together
[22:12] <darthanubis> meaning, why can't I browse application without typing them in the search?
[22:12] <k1l> yuciyuar: the package manager can only remove files that are named in the package install scripts. what the program itself creates after the install is not the business of the package manager.
[22:12] <CuriousThinker> darthanubis; the world is a cruel place
[22:13] <k1l> darthanubis: you can
[22:13] <darthanubis> found it
[22:13] <CuriousThinker> darthanubis; and it's just as wonderful
[22:13] <bekks> darthanubis: fatally tabfailed, I'm sorry.
[22:14] <yuciyuar> k1l, right but it doesnt overwrite to this when reinstalling
[22:15] <yuciyuar> how can i know where it installed packages
[22:15] <k1l> yuciyuar: please lets switch from theoretical to the real issue. provide informations and logs/errormessages
[22:17] <nnoobb> hi, for various reasons i rebuilt my kernel into 3.10. Now i want to restore it back to 3.13. However, when i run apt-get install linux-generic,
[22:18] <nnoobb> the term window freezes up with a purple screen telling me its reconfiguring grub. Any te m? recover sy
[22:18] <nnoobb> any ideas to recover system?
[22:19] <k1l> what do the logs say? what was the issue?
[22:19] <nnoobb> where are the logs?
[22:20] <gryzor> distro layout
[22:20] <k1l> /var/log and then dmesg or syslog. they get renamed to .0 or .1 after reboot
[22:20] <CuriousThinker> k1l; do you use Ubuntu yourself?
[22:20] <k1l> CuriousThinker: yep
[22:20] <CuriousThinker> k1l; even when you could be using Arch?
[22:21] <k1l> CuriousThinker: i dont think that suits into the ubuntu support channel
[22:22] <k1l> CuriousThinker: if you want comparison of various linux distros you might better ask in ##linux
[22:24] <nnoobb> this is in dpkg.log: 2015-04-28 17:56:47 status half-configured grub-pc:amd64 2.02~beta2-9ubuntu1
[22:25] <netlar> Is Snappy a good thing?
[22:25] <nnoobb> apparently dpkg is running and i have to stop it
[22:25] <k1l> netlar: it is.
[22:25] <k1l> nnoobb: how long did you wait?
[22:25] <nnoobb> immediately
[22:26] <netlar> Is going to be a rolling release?
[22:26] <k1l> nnoobb: does mean how many minutes?
[22:26] <k1l> netlar: wait for the UOS for the dicsussions and decisions
[22:26] <karmaghia> hey, so is anyone else having issues installing mariadb from the jmu.edu servers?
[22:27] <nnoobb> what do you mean? wait for what?
[22:27] <karmaghia> I'm getting all kinds of errors and when I go the the website, it looks like OpenDNS has marked it as malware
[22:27] <netlar> k1l: Sorry the UOS?
[22:27] <k1l> nnoobb: how long did you let it run untill you "stopped dpkg"
[22:27] <k1l> nnoobb: some task can take some time depending on the power of the cpu
[22:28] <k1l> netlar: ubuntu online summit. where stuff like that gets dicsussed from developers and community
[22:28] <daftykins> karmaghia: not ubuntu repos? not really supported.
[22:28] <karmaghia> sure, but it's the main mariadb repository afaik...
[22:29] <nnoobb> i ran apt-get install linux-generic, then it eventually told me to run something else becaus eof dpkg, but i didnt wait to run it, howeverwhen the purple screen cam up a waited quite a bit
[22:29] <daftykins> karmaghia: would perhaps their channel be more useful then?
[22:29] <k1l> nnoobb: what system is that at all?
[22:29] <karmaghia> daftykins: ah, I may have a workaround...
[22:30] <nnoobb> 14.02
[22:30] <k1l> nnoobb: desktop? laptop? server?
[22:30] <nnoobb> its actually a chroot on a chromebook
[22:30] <k1l> oh well. that info would have made sense at the beginning.
[22:31] <nnoobb> sorry..
[22:31] <KYD> Need help with old Dell Lat CPi-A. are there any sensors you can monitor in Conky? if so, What do i use?
[22:31] <k1l> you will want to ask the chromebook guys on that. because thet chroot on a chromebook thing is a very hacky thing and differs from a regular ubuntu install.
[22:32] <nnoobb> ok
[22:32] <k1l> so there is a good chance you cant run regular ubuntu kernels on that.
[22:32] <nnoobb> hmm, maybe
[22:34] <nillawafer> If you are using a solution like crouton, then it simply uses the already booted ChromeOS kernel.
[22:34] <nnoobb> yea, i think i remember reading that
[22:34] <nillawafer> It is just chrooting into an Ubuntu-based environment.
[22:35] <nnoobb> i havent found much it cant do
[22:35] <sabayonweb8555> a friend of mine tells me ubuntu has lost its luster
[22:35] <petrvs> sabayonweb8555: you don't say
[22:36] <petrvs> nnoobb: what model is it?
[22:37] <nnoobb> its an acer cb3 - 111
[22:37] <nnoobb> its a beaut
[22:37] <petrvs> cb3-111?
[22:37] <sabayonweb8555> but fedora is picking up the torch and moving forward
[22:38] <nillawafer> There is no need to do anything with kernels if you are using a crouton set up. It is just using the already booted ChromeOS kernel.
[22:38] <k1l> sabayonweb8555: lets stick to ubuntu support in here, thanks
[22:38] <petrvs> doesn't look like that one comes with seabios
[22:38] <petrvs> not sure how much effort changing the OS would be, probably heaps of
[22:39] <nillawafer> Changing OS completely on that Acer would be pretty tough... you would probably have to flash the BIOS, etc.
[22:40] <daftykins> which is offtopic here :) (chromebook modding)
[22:41] <nillawafer> daftykins: exactly
[22:41] <sabayonweb8555> anyone tryed the chinese ubuntu version deepin?
[22:42] <petrvs> sabayonweb8555: probably someone
[22:43] <Ben64> sabayonweb8555: its not supported here
[22:43] <Jordan_U> sabayonweb8555: This channel only supports official flavors of Ubuntu. Deepin is not Ubuntu.
[22:43] <petrvs> you would probably have to make hardware modifications
[22:43] <petrvs> it's quite simple on some chromebooks, though
[22:43] <petrvs> gotta research before you purchase, alas
[22:43] <petrvs> or be wiling to return
[22:43] <sabayonweb8555> its ubuntu at heart
[22:44] <petrvs> sabayonweb8555: right, but, you're still taking a poll =)
[22:44] <Jordan_U> sabayonweb8555: Not supported here, period. Please stop trying to discuss things that are offtopic.
[22:44] <teward> sabayonweb8555: no, that's not a supported variant of Ubuntu.  Discussion therein is offtopic, and I suggest you listen to Jordan_U
[22:45] <Jordan_U> sabayonweb8555: Or move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[22:45] <sabayonweb8555> lets all make 1m of silence then
[22:46] <teward> that works too :)
[22:47] <skinux> I'm wondering about ideas for an application that could be developed using Ubuntu SDK, which would have potential for hundreds to thousands of users and be commercial worthy?
[22:49] <MonkeyDust> skinux  a GUI for NSF coonnections
[22:49] <daftykins> skinux: off topic
[22:49] <nillawafer> sklinux: #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:49] <skinux> MonkeyDust: Define NSF
[22:49] <Pandorian> is there a way to view a filtered log of the successfully executed terminal commands?
[22:52] <gzcwnk> hi, I just installed a gui on my server but it now boots to a gui, I odnt want that, how can i get it to go back to cli only ?  looks like im in runlevel2 on ubuntu 14
[22:52] <daftykins> ubuntu doesn't use run levels afaik
[22:53] <ubuntu783> hi all is there a queu?
[22:53] <esde> nope
[22:53] <esde> just ask
[22:53] <esde> *e
[22:54] <petrvs> triage in yo face!
[22:54] <petrvs> gzcwnk: which GUI?
[22:54] <ubuntu783> cool thanks, anyone notice brightness jump (maybe gamma) in 15.04 and no brightness slider?
[22:54] <gzcwnk> gnome
[22:55] <k1l> !text | gzcwnk
[22:55] <gzcwnk> i did a apt-get install xinit gnome so i get startx
[22:57] <ubuntu783> is brightness slider missing in 15.04 gnome normal or just on my system?
[22:59] <gzcwnk> hmm messy
[22:59] <reborn> ubuntu783, did reinstall?
[22:59] <gzcwnk> no such thing as boot-repair
[22:59] <ubuntu783> did upgrade from 14.10
[22:59] <skinux> Curious...Given a amount of hacking going on these days, is it worth while to install a Network Intrusion system onto a single laptop, or do well configured firewalls such as IPTables suffice?
[23:00] <gzcwnk> that grub.conf is comlex
[23:00] <gzcwnk> complex
[23:00] <reborn> ubuntu783, no i mean, package reinstall.
[23:00] <gzcwnk> ie i cant tell which line to append "text" to
[23:01] <ubuntu783> no i dont think so?
[23:01] <Ben64> gzcwnk: you shouldn't be editing grub.conf directly
[23:01] <reborn> ubuntu783, what are you running on distro?
[23:01] <k1l> gzcwnk: no. you change the /etc/default/grub and let the grubscripts run again to create the .conf
[23:01] <Jordan_U> gzcwnk: You don't edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg, you edit /etc/default/grub. Specifically, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Simple-configuration.html
[23:03] <ubuntu783> on 2 different systems no brightness slider anymore, sorry dont know distro?
[23:03] <reborn> ubuntu 15.04?
[23:03] <petrvs> ubuntu783: cat /etc/*release* /etc/*version*
[23:04] <gzcwnk> that isnt waht the doc says
[23:04] <ubuntu783> yes 15.04
[23:04] <reborn> ubuntu783, try what petrvs say.
[23:05] <ubuntu783> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=15.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=vivid DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 15.04" NAME="Ubuntu" VERSION="15.04 (Vivid Vervet)" ID=ubuntu ID_LIKE=debian PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 15.04" VERSION_ID="15.04" HOME_URL="http://www.ubuntu.com/" SUPPORT_URL="http://help.ubuntu.com/" BUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/" jessie/sid
[23:05] <gzcwnk> oh god how do i turn off colours in vi? lol
[23:05] <Finetundra> hello, can I have someone walk me through installing to a chrome book?
[23:06] <Jordan_U> gzcwnk: Yes, it is. What documentation are you looking at that says otherwise?
[23:06] <_war10ck_> gzcwnk: What happened with vi now?
[23:06] <gzcwnk>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode
[23:07] <k1l> gzcwnk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_boot_options_Temporarily_for_an_Existing_Installation point 1. and keep in mind we have grub2 since ages
[23:07] <gzcwnk> man how to make something so basic, complex
[23:08] <ubuntu783> reborn yours still has brightness slider after upgrade?
[23:08] <gzcwnk> i want it to boot to cli permanantly
[23:08] <piotr_k> hello all
[23:08] <Jordan_U> gzcwnk: Nowhere on that page is editing of "grub.conf" mentioned. Please quote the exact sentence where it is suggested that you edit "grub.conf".
[23:08] <gzcwnk> it did before i installed a gui
[23:08] <gzcwnk> jordan its implying it as it doesnt say how to do it
[23:09] <DeezNutSinYoMout> whats sup faggots
[23:09]  * DeezNutSinYoMout eat this dick
[23:09] <reborn> ubuntu783, did you tried control?
[23:09] <ubuntu783> sorry control?
[23:09] <reborn> optional control.
[23:10] <ubuntu783> dont know this
[23:10]  * ILikelinuxAndMoe these nuts in yo mouth am i right?
[23:10] <gzcwnk> Ok, I'll keep googling
[23:10] <piotr_k> my friend have killed me with one question about ubuntu.  Those started at login, or those started at boot?
[23:12] <Monkanamous> what's up with the random people coming in here with the trash talk?  haha, are those bots?
[23:13] <k1l> Monkanamous: dont mind the trolls
[23:13] <Monkanamous> so those aren't bots? i see.
[23:14] <piotr_k> I think that those started at login added using "Startup Applications"
[23:15] <piotr_k> the utility which pops up when you are searching startup applications using unity dash
[23:15] <Monkanamous> this might be a good linux question, has anyone got the USB video adapters working with Ubuntu or any Linux Distro?  asides from using there new neavou driver i believe.
[23:16] <piotr_k> I'm just wondering, how to reproduce the exact same thing using CLI, not the startup applications utility..
[23:18] <bluenemo> hi guys. I'm trying to setup a routed bridge on my hetzner.de Server. I have some config error somewhere, the kvm guest system using the bridge can send icmp requests out, but does not get any response: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/b89aaa03/ I disabled the firewall and set ip_forward to 1
[23:18] <bekks> bluenemo: Define "routed bridge".
[23:18] <bekks> A router and a bridge are operating on different OSI layers.
[23:18] <Jordan_U> piotr_k: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8247706/start-script-when-gnome-starts-up
[23:19] <bluenemo> bekks, pretty much what hetzner.de is describing here http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Netzkonfiguration_Debian/en#Routed_.28brouter.29
[23:19] <piotr_k> Jordan_U: Thank you ;)
[23:19] <Jordan_U> piotr_k: You're welcome.
[23:20] <Monkanamous> ...
[23:20] <piotr_k>  bluenemo: you dont have to set ip_forward to 1 on the host machine to forward traffic from vm througout bridge
[23:21] <bluenemo> aho k
[23:21] <bluenemo> http://paste.debian.net/169760/ looks kinda strange
[23:21] <T3> hey! Is there an IRC channel where I can talk about ubuntu tomcat packages?
[23:22] <bluenemo> shouldnt interfaces be nothing on br0?
[23:22] <piotr_k> no
[23:23] <piotr_k> correct me if i'm wrong but you have the following scenario
[23:30] <someone235> Hi, I followed this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html but when I try to connect to the ftp server it always say "530 Login incorrect."
[23:30] <someone235> Someone knows why?
[23:31] <petrvs> ftp is insecure, sure you want it?
[23:31] <daftykins> it does often get setup by people that come here for no good reason
[23:33] <someone235> petrvs, what is the alternative?
[23:33] <petrvs> someone235: ssh+ftp, usually
[23:33] <petrvs> you can call it sftp if you want, but also you can just call it ssh
[23:33] <tlt> you can point your ftpd to localhost and just use ssh on the way there also
[23:34] <ni638629> hello
[23:34] <petrvs> 'lo
[23:35] <petrvs> openssh is also miles simpler to configure
[23:35] <petrvs> basically it just works the moment you install it
[23:35] <petrvs> and it's already secure
[23:36] <someone235> petrvs, what is wrong with ftp?
[23:36] <Ben64> ancient, not secure, harder to set up, etc
[23:36] <petrvs> ^
[23:36] <petrvs> it's both insecure _and_ harder to set up
[23:36] <petrvs> it's all cons
[23:36] <tlt> all goes plaintext over the internet
[23:36] <tlt> that's never acceptable
[23:37] <petrvs> harder to set up is just a simple software problem
[23:37] <petrvs> insecure is a fundamental design flaw
[23:37] <Ben64> 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server' done, you got sftp
[23:37] <petrvs> it's sometimes acceptable, but not really ever worth doing more work for
[23:57] <daniel31> hello all. I have ubuntu 14.10 with an encrypted home directory and I'm looking forward to a fresh install of kubuntu as it happens on a new SSD i have bought specially. when I boot into my new OS, what will I need to do to access the encrypted files in my old encrypted home? (i.e. what should I do now, before I say goodbye to this edition of the distro?)


[00:00] <tuga3d> hi all!
[00:01] <tuga3d> how can i edit the icons associated to the file types?
[00:05] <somerville32> tuga3d, I'm sure you can.
[00:06] <tuga3d> yes, but how?
[00:07] <tuga3d> i have some programs that i've compiled in my home directory and i wanna to associate the file extention to the programs and an icon.
[00:12] <tuga3d> ??? anyone?
[00:16] <bart1105> somerville32: i got it working but now its taking too long to shutdown, cifs vfs: server not responding
[00:16] <somerville32> bart1105, try asking in #ubuntu-server :)
[00:16] <bart1105> ok thanx
[00:18] <demi`> hi, what's a good power management app for xubuntu? the cpu fan is running crazy non-stop, even if cpu usage is 1% >_>
[00:19] <tuga3d> somerville32, can you please give me a hint how to do it?
[00:20] <somerville32> tuga3d, I have no idea, I'm sorry :(
[00:20] <somerville32> tuga3d, It most likely has to do with mime data though
[00:20] <tuga3d> ok, thanks anyaway ;)
[00:21] <tuga3d> one more question, what is lighter xubuntu or fluxbuntu?
[00:23] <seisen> fluxbuntu
[00:24] <tuga3d> thanks seisen
[00:36] <smfenn> hello
[00:36] <thruxton> hi
[00:36] <smfenn> i'm having some issues with my xubuntu install, is this the right place to ask for support?
[00:37] <thruxton> smfenn: sure, hopefully someone here can help
[00:38] <smfenn> I'm using an old 433htz G4 mac and i've managed to get it installed, but when I boot up, I get the bootlogo but then get a initramfs command prompt.
[00:39] <smfenn> and can't get into xubuntu at all
[00:39] <smfenn> unfortunately i'm a complete linux n00b, so i'm not sure what I can do to fix it.
[00:40] <daurnimator> smfenn: I'm fairly newby too, but check your grub.conf to see if its using the correct hdd
[00:40] <thruxton> well i think it would be good to disable the splash, so you see each boot message
[00:41] <smfenn> and how would i do either of those options?
[00:43] <daurnimator> boot live cd
[00:43] <smfenn> and?
[00:44] <daurnimator> open mousepad
[00:44] <daurnimator> something like /grub/something/grub.conf
[00:44] <daurnimator> in your installed version
[00:44] <smfenn> what is mousepad?
[00:46] <thruxton> daurnimator: if he cant boot it, he likely cant edit menu.lst
[00:47] <smfenn> ahh.
[00:47] <daurnimator> smfenn: simple gui text editor - like notepad on windows
[00:47] <daurnimator> thruxton: surely he can boot the livecd... or how could he have installed it in the first place
[00:48] <smfenn> well i used the alternative cd with video=ofonly
[00:48] <daurnimator> welll.... sorry, out of my league :)
[00:48] <smfenn> the plain old Live CD won't work on my macs.
[00:48] <smfenn> that you for trying :)
[00:48] <smfenn> thank*
[00:49] <BuGSy> по русски кто говорит
[00:49] <evil_tech> russian?
[00:49] <BuGSy> yes
[00:50] <evil_tech> !russian
[00:50] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[00:51] <BuGSy> evil_tech, whois me!
[00:51] <BuGSy> i am in channel #ubuntu-ru
[00:52] <smfenn> is there any one else out their who could possibly help with my problem please?
[00:58] <somerville32> smfenn, what is your problem?
[01:04] <daurnimator> :(
[01:05] <daurnimator> compiz seems to keep closing itself
[01:05] <daurnimator> next xubuntu better have it built in
[01:06] <somerville32> daurnimator, You better grovel at my feet then :P
[01:06] <daurnimator> ?
[01:07] <somerville32> daurnimator, If you want compiz built in next release, you better start groveling at my feet :P
[01:07] <daurnimator> you an admin or something?
[01:08] <somerville32> We don't have admins
[01:08] <somerville32> Just people who help develop Xubuntu :)
[01:08] <daurnimator> surely someone heads up the project
[01:08] <daurnimator> who sets the dates - who confirms things for real - who sets the goals etc
[01:09] <somerville32> Well, we fall under Ubuntu governance
[01:09] <somerville32> So, the TB and CC
[01:09] <daurnimator> right
[01:09] <somerville32> But we generally just do our thing anyhow, haha
[01:09] <somerville32> mr_pouit is the lead of the Xubuntu project though
[01:10] <daurnimator> right, you'd have to call him an admin then? ;)
[01:11] <daurnimator> the  thing I'd like to see included in xubuntu is a simple gfx editor
[01:12] <daurnimator> something like paint.net on windows
[01:12] <somerville32> We include gimp, no?
[01:13] <daurnimator> too advanced
[01:13] <daurnimator> It needs to come with something simple
[01:14] <daurnimator> even something like MSPAint is to windows
[01:15] <daurnimator> something that anyone can open, and just knows how to use
[01:31] <limbert65> Is there a way (is it advisable) to get the Firefox 3 beta using apt-get?
[01:34] <seisen> ya install firefox granparismo
[01:34] <seisen> its spelled something like tha
[01:34] <somerville32> !find firefox
[01:34] <ubotu> Found: firefox-themes-ubuntu, mozilla-firefox-locale-af, mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-be, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg (and 71 others)
[01:34] <somerville32> !find firefox-3
[01:34] <ubotu> Found: firefox-3.0, firefox-3.0-dev, firefox-3.0-dom-inspector, firefox-3.0-gnome-support, firefox-3.0-venkman
[01:34] <somerville32> !info firefox-3.0
[01:34] <ubotu> firefox-3.0: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla (Development Version). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0~alpha8+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1130 kB, installed size 3832 kB
[01:36] <seisen> they must have changed it then
[01:36] <limbert65> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0 (should have tried that)
[01:36] <limbert65> will that replace the existing firefox 2, or install alongside it?
[01:44] <daurnimator> alongside
[01:44] <daurnimator> and its called granpariso
[01:44] <daurnimator> which I hate
[01:49] <neur1> hello, can someone point out the folder the file =  .conkyrc is in thanks
[03:57] <nikolam> hi
[03:57] <nikolam> I installd xfce 4.4.2 from source with installer fw days ago
[03:57] <nikolam> Now I cant use keyboard layouts
[03:58] <nikolam> how to make my keyboard behave again (alt+shift) for different language layouts
[03:59] <nikolam> Should I install older xfce from distribution debs? and how?
[03:59] <nikolam> I am running xubuntu 7.10 64bit
[04:00] <nikolam> Help, anyone?
[04:05] <tim_11> Hi
[04:05] <tim_11> how do I isntall new icons ??
[04:05] <tim_11> do u know?
[04:05] <tim_11> please tell me to please how do I isntall new icons ?
[04:06] <nikolam> Hm i think there is some tutorial on themes page
[04:07] <nikolam> Also, you have user interface settings
[04:07] <nikolam> and icon theme tab on it
[04:07] <tim_11> no...
[04:08] <tim_11> i wan to install NEW icons
[04:08] <nikolam> xfce-look.org I think
[04:08] <tim_11> yes I downlaod them but how do i isntall em?
[04:09] <nikolam> i think there is some listed "theme" on that site, that includes some tutorial/howto
[04:15] <tim_11> how do i isntall them after i downlaod them
[04:15] <nikolam> http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/HOW-TO++install?content=14906
[04:16] <nikolam> tim_11, there it is. Just one search on page. i think there is more of it
[04:17] <tim_11> it is hard....\
[04:18] <tim_11> i can't understand how to do it
[04:18] <nikolam> just unpack it in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/
[04:18] <tim_11> ok cool
[04:19] <nikolam> you need to unpack it as root beacouse it is system folder
[04:20] <tim_11> how do i unpack it as a root?
[04:20] <nikolam> so, therefore, use sudo tar -zxvf to unpack: sudo tar -zxvf cursortheme.tgz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/
[04:20] <nikolam> OR open Thunar or other file manager as root and do the same
[04:20] <nikolam> Alt+F2, gksu Thunar
[04:21] <drc822> anyone use zsh?
[04:24] <tim_11> was i suppouse to extract it to default ??
[04:50] <idiocrash> anyone in here using openbox by any chance?
[05:15] <neur1> why doesn't the server kernel connect wirelessly?
[05:16] <nikolam> what is "server kernel"?
[05:17] <nikolam> You think kernel in server version of xubuntu?
[05:17] <nikolam> I don`t know if there IS server version of Xubuntu
[05:17] <neur1> when I turn on my laptop I have two choices server and generic
[05:17] <nikolam> Maybe server version of Ubuntu.
[05:18] <neur1> wireless only works in generic, how come?
[05:19] <nikolam> Maybe you could ask that question in some group/channel about Ubuntu Server
[05:20] <neur1> I don't have ubuntu, it's xubuntu
[05:20] <nikolam> So you are saying, there actually IS Xubuntu server edition. I dodn`t know that.
[05:21] <neur1> I don't know it's listed in my grub
[05:22] <neur1> when I turn on my laptop
[05:23] <nikolam> You can choose what kernel will boot in sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst under default (by number)
[06:18] <marybuntu> someone please remind me how to install skype via cli?  did it on my laptop, now trying to install on mom's desktop.  cnr client failed to install it.
[06:30] <marybuntu> someone please remind me how to install skype via cli?  did it on my laptop, now trying to install on mom's desktop.  cnr client failed to install it.
[07:09] <mikubuntu> dr_willis, you helped me install skype on mom's desktop a few mins ago... now i am having a problem installing linspire's cnr plugin on this laptop... getting this error msg:
[07:09] <mikubuntu> Dependency is not satisfiable: libapt-pkg-libc6.4-6-3.53  any idea what i need to do?
[07:52] <gerro> heeelp the gnome people removed screen saver advanced features from gui!
[07:52] <gerro> sorry just commenting never saw this before know if someone submitted a xubuntu bug yet?
[07:53] <gerro> hmm wait didn't 7.04 use xscreensaver instead?.. wonder if option to go back to that
[07:58] <Proteus> Is there any way I could have the ability to switch between ubuntu and xubuntu on the same system?
[09:11] <aboyousif> any help with install lighttpd and mod_fastcgi on xubuntu gutsy ?
[09:38] <TheSheep> aboyousif: what seems to be the problem?
[13:25] <BUGabundo> are ppl having trouble with touchpads on laptops with gutsy ?
[13:26] <thegeeker> My Thinkpad T30 works fine
[13:39] <Norgur> hi
[13:40] <thegeeker> lo
[13:41] <bgergo94> hi
[13:42] <bgergo94> i have a problem with the xubuntu
[13:42] <Norgur> metaquestion^^
[13:42] <bgergo94> when the comp is working a lot of small lines appears on the screen
[13:42] <Norgur> what is it?
[13:43] <bgergo94> it appears at 1024x768 60 Hz
[13:43] <thegeeker> LCD or CRT monitor?
[13:43] <bgergo94> when i raise the frequency there are more lines on the display
[13:43] <bgergo94> LCD
[13:43] <thegeeker> Video card and driver?
[13:44] <bgergo94> my video card: Trident Cyberblade
[13:44] <thegeeker> LCD usually uses a lower refresh, like 50Hz-60Hz
[13:45] <bgergo94> but there isn't lower frequency then 60 Hz
[13:46] <thegeeker> If the lines are not always there, I would be more inclined to blame the video card or driver
[13:46] <bgergo94> how can i refresh the driver
[13:46] <bgergo94> ?
[13:47] <thegeeker> That is an excellent question, which I do not have the answer to
[13:49] <TheSheep> bgergo94: you don't, it comes with the kernel
[14:02] <BUGabundo> I have a collegue with a ultraportatil Fujitsu Lifebook
[14:02] <BUGabundo> and can't make is thouch screen work
[14:02] <BUGabundo> http://www.lowlevel.cz/log/pivot/entry.php?id=90
[14:03] <BUGabundo> actually it works, but he is not able to calibrat it
[14:57] <Twinkletoes> Does GDM require you to use the Gnome desktop, or can you use GDM and still use KDE etc?
[14:58] <thegeeker> you can use xdm, gdm, or kdm and use gnome, kde, or xfce with any of them
[14:58] <thegeeker> xdm is ugly though, so don't use that ;)
[14:58] <Twinkletoes> thegeeker: Ah, thank you - so when I log in, what is it that gdm does to start my preferred desktop?
[14:58] <thegeeker> You need to pick your session
[14:58] <Twinkletoes> thegeeker: I'm asking because I installed xrdp, but when I remote login, I only get a crappy b/w desktop
[14:59] <Twinkletoes> thegeeker: Need to know what to tell xrdp to start my desktop
[14:59] <thegeeker> Hm, I'm not sure how xrdp figures into it
[14:59] <Twinkletoes> thegeeker: If I wanted to say "start my desktop", which program (eg xfce) is it that I need to run?
[15:00] <thegeeker> When you login locally you can choose your session among gnome/kde/xfce depending on what you have installed
[15:00] <thegeeker> xfce4 maybe
[15:00] <Twinkletoes> thegeeker: Ok, thanks - I'll give that a whirl
[15:00] <thegeeker> maybe not
[15:05] <Jyzygzel-> how do you mount windows partitions?
[15:07] <thegeeker> Twinkletoes: Ah-ha! startxfce4
[15:07] <drc822> Jyzygzel-: samba
[15:07] <drc822> !samba Jyzygzel-
[15:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samba jyzygzel- - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:08] <Twinkletoes> thegeeker: Thank you - I found that after your suggestion... I can type it in manually after getting that standard b/w desktop, but I need to work out how to make xrdp do that by defauilt ;)
[15:08] <drc822> damn cant remember the syntax
[15:08] <Jyzygzel-> MOUNT
[15:08] <Twinkletoes> thegeeker: Thank you for your help tho :)
[15:08] <Jyzygzel-> not access them over network
[15:08] <drc822> Jyzygzel-: install samba package, sudo mount -t smbfs //computer/sharename /mountpoint
[15:09] <drc822> Jyzygzel-: u can also install swat to use a web-interface on them
[15:09] <drc822> if its easier for u.. or gsambad for a nice gnome interface
[15:10] <thegeeker> Twinkletoes: I think this will do it for you: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/42362-start-xfce-gui.html#post229337
[15:11] <thegeeker> put startxfce4 in your ~/.xinitrc file
[15:11] <Twinkletoes> thegeeker: Thank you :)
[15:38] <martin_> hello, i have just installed conky on my xubuntu 7.10 and now i have a question: where do I make it startup with the system?
[15:38] <TheSheep> martin_: system->autostarted applications
[15:40] <martin_> I dont have anything like this:/
[15:40] <thegeeker> Applications->Settings->Autostarted Applications
[15:41] <martin_> aaa, yes:D great thanks:)
[15:41] <martin_> and... how should the command look like, just: conky ?
[15:42] <thegeeker> Pretty much however you would start it at the bash prompt
[15:43] <martin_> ok:) thanks again:)
[16:42] <aladdinsane> anybody know if it is possible to run Pigeon, Kopete and/or Thunderbird from a usb-stick in ubuntu, i.e. being able to move it between differnet xubuntu computers with all its settings/saves on the stick?
[20:16] <Ben_Cs> hello
[20:17] <Ben_Cs> how can i customize my panel to look the way i want?
[20:18] <thegeeker> right-click the panel, choose customize panel
[20:20] <Ben_Cs> can't i make the panel colorfull/picture?
[20:24] <thegeeker> Hm, not so easy: http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/
[20:27] <Ben_Cs> is there a web site with xfce customization and looks tricks?
[20:28] <thegeeker> A Google search on exactly what you are trying to do is usually your best bet
[20:30] <Ben_Cs> didn't find exactly what i was looking 4
[20:30] <thegeeker> the link above tells you how to change the panel color or put a picture into it
[20:31] <Ben_Cs> yes. thank you
[20:34] <pieisgood4589> Hi
[20:34] <pieisgood4589> Bi
[20:46] <sulle> everytime i start my Xubuntu i get "check forced".. what can i do to fix this ?
[20:49] <thegeeker> sulle: maybe this will help: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/12/tuning-the-filesystem-check-at-bootup/
[20:52] <TheSheep> sulle: also, shutting down properly would help
[20:53] <thegeeker> True, you shouldn't get that every time unless you are pulling the power plug instead of going through shutdown
[20:54] <evil_tech> that or you interupt the check
[20:54] <thegeeker> Good point
[20:54] <sulle> should i do a fcsk?
[20:55] <thegeeker> Let it finish once and you won't see it for another 30 reboots
[20:55] <sulle> i do. i restart and it pops right back up.
[20:55] <thegeeker> Unless you pull the power plug
[20:55] <sulle> have been this way for more than 1 month.
[20:56] <evil_tech> does it find errors?
[20:56] <sulle> not everytime....
[20:56] <sulle> but bad blocks sometimes.
[20:56] <thegeeker> yikes, get a new HD
[20:56] <evil_tech> i would run a check of the hard drive with a diskette from the manufcaturer
[20:57] <sulle> but it works greate if i boot in windows:S
[20:57] <evil_tech> cause that sounds like failing hardware
[20:57] <evil_tech> have you ran a scandisk or chkdsk from windows?
[20:57] <sulle> yes. no problems
[20:57] <evil_tech> wierd
[20:57] <thegeeker> i don't think the windows scandisk will check the linux partitions
[20:58] <evil_tech> no it wont
[20:58] <evil_tech> but if it is the hard disk going bad its not going to be isolated to just the linux part
[20:58] <thegeeker> so the bad parts are in the linux partitions
[20:58] <sulle> would u recommend a fcsk ?
[20:59] <thegeeker> I would recommend a new HD
[20:59] <evil_tech> i recommend testing the drive with the manufacturers utility
[21:00] <evil_tech> run the full read scan and if it fails then you need a new hard disk
[21:00] <sulle> okok
[21:00] <evil_tech> if not then something is corrupting your filesystem
[21:02] <stone[no]> sulle: Are you running a plain vanilla xubuntu install, no "exotic" software, boot options etc?
[21:02] <sulle> nope. only changed theme and got vmware and some other software.
[21:02] <stone[no]> what filesystem do you use?
[21:03] <sulle> ext2
[21:03] <sulle> stone[no]: norsk ?
[21:03] <stone[no]> jepp :)
[21:03] <sulle> :D flott =)
[21:04] <stone[no]> sulle: How old is the hd?
[21:05] <sulle> about 2 years.
[21:06] <stone[no]> sulle: I guess you have the recents updates installed? You could also try to boot from an live distro and run the fsch on the unmounted hd... My two cents :)
[21:07] <sulle> hehe okok.
[21:07] <sulle> i can try=)
[21:16] <stone[no]> sulle: you have the vmware player or virt machine?
[21:18] <sulle> both
[21:20] <stone[no]> I'm not sure but my guth feeling tells me the virt machine could be the culprint... Does it work the same way as xen?
[21:20] <stone[no]> gut
[21:21] <sulle> i dont know... i will try to fcsk from a live cd in a moment
[21:21] <sulle> just taking a backup =)
[21:21] <stone[no]> smart move :)
[21:21] <sulle> hope so =)
[23:34] <grout> how do i add shortcuts to my top bar like the firefox one??  I cant add them by dragging.
[23:36] <thruxton> grout: right click on the panel and choose add new item>launcher
[23:43] <sleepwalk> You guyus I need help.  My friend somehoq has over 200 panels on his desktop. They arejust small grey boxes.  I can only rempove them one at a time.   Any other suggestions on how to get rid of them?
[23:44] <sleepwalk> Im using 7.10 xubuntu
[23:44] <soldats> restart
[23:44] <soldats> ?
[23:44] <soldats> how did they get there
[23:45] <sleepwalk> I don't know how.  He must had been messing with something.....I have restarted..no luck.
[23:46] <zoredache> sleepwalk: probably all you have to do is delete the write set of .dotfiles
[23:46] <zoredache> out of his homedirectory...
[23:47] <zoredache> I am not certain but maybe the problem lives in .config/xfce
[23:47] <zoredache> you could just make a backup of his home directory, delete everything, then add back things that are good
[23:49] <sleepwalk> zoredache: I'll check that out. Thanks


[11:34] <RikMills> is syncing qtractor point release useful?
[11:35] <RikMills> https://qtractor.sourceforge.io/qtractor-downloads.html#Downloads
[15:54] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: Yep, I was thinking about doing that this morning anyhow.
[15:56] <Eickmeyer[m]> (went ahead and did it)
[16:05] <RikMills> cool. just noticed it going through the autosync dummy run logs
[17:35] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: controls has a 2.0.8 The user confirms that this works.
[17:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ok, I'll get on it asap.
[21:35] <Guest9033> i miss 2 big programs OpenToonz and shotcut
[22:15] <Eickmeyer[m]> OpenToonz has never been a thing as far as I can remember, and shotcut is in the repos. ¯\(ツ)/¯
[22:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: controls: groovy is updated, backported, Fedora rawhide, updated, 33 awaiting post-beta thaw, 32 and 31 headed to testing for 7 days.
[22:22] <OvenWerks> Thank you.
[22:23] <OvenWerks> Mr Guest went before anyone could answer anyway
[22:23] <OvenWerks> stayed a whole 60 seconds
[22:23] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yeah. Gotta love drive-by complaints.
[22:24] <OvenWerks> how come no one listens to my suggestions?...
[22:25] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yuuuup.


[17:44] <Laney> Is somehthing in git.lp.net down? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xG8dwT8SG9/ (I got that URL from the web UI)
[17:45] <cjwatson> investigating
[17:46] <cjwatson> load graphs and such look ok
[17:46] <cjwatson> turnip-pack-virt isn't running, again
[17:46] <marcustomlinson> I've got the same issue
[17:47] <cjwatson> Everyone will
[17:47] <cjwatson> No need for further reports
[17:47] <marcustomlinson> ok ok, just adding info
[17:50] <cjwatson> I've asked on #is for somebody to restart the turnip-pack-virt servers
[17:51] <cjwatson> Looks like they were OOM-killed or similar
[18:04] <cjwatson> Should be back now - sorry for the inconvenience
[18:06] <ahasenack> thanks!
[19:00] <Laney> 🕺