[02:17] <ToRTuReD_X> yeh that's it
[02:17] <ToRTuReD_X> it wouldn't install
[02:17] <tahorg> really easy to install
[02:17] <ToRTuReD_X> no it had fatal errors
[02:18] <jantan21> how can u so me install ubuntu true
[02:19] <ToRTuReD_X> jantan?
[02:19] <jantan21> from web
[02:19] <jantan21> how can u show me install ubuntu true
[02:19] <jantan21> from web
[02:20] <jantan21> help me
[02:20] <ToRTuReD_X> http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/install/
[02:20] <nnacht> jantan: what is your problem?
[02:20] <jantan21> i'am install xmms
[02:20] <nnacht> jantan: and_
[02:21] <jantan21> Package xmms has no installation candidate <<<warning
[02:22] <jantan21> tell me if i am wrong with my install ?
[02:22] <nnacht> jantan21: I supose you can try other repositories, and apt-get update
[02:23] <ToRTuReD_X> someone wanna help me mount my hard drive so that i can access my music
[02:23] <nnacht> or u just download the source and compile by yourself
[02:23] <ToRTuReD_X> ;/
[02:23] <nnacht> ToRTuRED: just mount /dev/hd?? /the/path/youwantmount
[02:24] <jantan21> Reading package lists... Done <<<ok
[02:25] <jantan21> next
[02:25] <ToRTuReD_X> thanks nnacht
[02:25] <ToRTuReD_X> anyway
[02:25] <ToRTuReD_X> rebooting into normal user
[02:26] <Smof> can anyone tell me the command for deleting a directory?
[02:26] <nnacht> smof: rmdir
[02:26] <jantan21> smof : what next ?
[02:27] <nnacht> smof: or if the directory is not empty, just try 'rm -fr #
[02:27] <jantan21> nnacht : what next ?
[02:27] <liran_> what easy WYSIWYG html editor can i get for ubuntu?
[02:27] <nnacht> liran_: nvu
[02:27] <IIIEars> mozilla NVU
[02:27] <Smof> nnacht, what does that do? I mean does the 'fr' stand for something? I find it so much easier to remember this stuff if I know what it means
[02:27] <IIIEars> open office does a passable job for a simple page
[02:27] <liran_> ok ill look it up on synaptic
[02:28] <nnacht> smof: ok, let me try to explain.
[02:28] <nnacht> smof: if the directory is empty, just type 'rmdir thedir'
[02:29] <liran_> uhm, no match for mozilla NVU or just NVU
[02:29] <nnacht> smof: else you try to type 'rm -fr thedir', where f means force and r means rekursiv
[02:29] <Smof> ok
[02:29] <Smof> cool, thanks
[02:29] <jantan21> nnacht ::: help me
[02:29] <nnacht> that means everything in the directory will be deleted
[02:29] <liran_> nnacht, its actually rikursyv :P
[02:30] <nnacht> jantan: what is the problem?
[02:30] <jantan21> i can't install xmms ?
[02:30] <nightswim> yes you can
[02:31] <nnacht> jantan: have you tried another repository?
[02:31] <jantan21> taech me
[02:31] <nnacht> ok
[02:32] <IIIEars> ToRTuReD_X, - Check out this script for mounting all avilable drives. (Thanks Seveas. ) http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/518
[02:32] <liran_> what software can i use to create an avi/mpg video of screenshots?
[02:32] <Smof> ok, now I seem to have a problem with my directory names. I created them in Windows and they have spaces, so it's not understanding my command.
[02:32] <nnacht> u can try deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[02:33] <nnacht> smof: use '\' and press the space
[02:33] <sorush21> guys how do I make sure that port 110 is open and what is a good front end program for firewall
[02:33] <Smof> nnacht, I put it in quotes and that seemed to work. Guessing is fun!
[02:33] <nnacht> smof: I do agree with u
[02:33] <liraz> Can someone help me figure out while thunderbird is insisting on only using antialiasing?
[02:34] <liraz> It does not match with the truetype fonts I'm using, and I have set AA off for them
[02:34] <ToRTuReD_X> dammit
[02:34] <johnnybezak> hey guys, do you know of any traffic shaping QoS programs that aren't just using the kernel tools? I have read through some how-to's and I'm sure I'm up to it I'm just hoping there is a simpler way
[02:34] <ToRTuReD_X> how do i install tar.gz files without an extractor?
[02:34] <nightswim> with an extractor
[02:35] <nnacht> tar zxvf ...
[02:35] <ToRTuReD_X> -_-
[02:35] <johnnybezak> you can't haha they need to be extracted
[02:36] <ilba7r> what is the command to list the partitions and their size
[02:36] <Smof> final problem. One of the names has a word in square brackets, it's called 'Randoms and [spunge] ', and it's getting confused by the [spunge]  bit thinking it's a command
[02:36] <bimberi> ilba7r: sudo fdisk -l
[02:36] <nnacht> smof, just use \[
[02:37] <Dartsani> df
[02:37] <ilba7r> thanx bimberi
[02:37] <ToRTuReD_X> ok
[02:37] <ToRTuReD_X> extracted
[02:37] <bimberi> yw :)
[02:37] <ToRTuReD_X> all i have is xpi files
[02:37] <ToRTuReD_X> what now?
[02:38] <superCoco> h
[02:38] <Smof> I don't follow you. It doesn't seem to do anything with the \
[02:39] <squareyes> evening all, my printer/s epson LQ500, and HP laserjet 4 plus won't work with Ubuntu (or any other Linux distro) on parallel cable, /dev/lp0 seems to be there ls /dev/lp0 shows it
[02:39] <bimberi> ToRTuReD_X: are you installing addins for mozilla ?
[02:39] <squareyes> any ideas Please?
[02:39] <ToRTuReD_X> bimberi - nope installing firefox on debian
[02:39] <ToRTuReD_X> ;/
[02:39] <ToRTuReD_X> erm
[02:39] <ToRTuReD_X> sorry
[02:39] <ToRTuReD_X> slackware
[02:40] <ToRTuReD_X> well a distro based on it
[02:40] <IIIEars> ubotu winmac_fstab is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/  Ubotu: Psst! Seveas you made me look good again. - Thanks. :)
[02:40] <ubotu> okay, IIIEars
[02:41] <bimberi> ToRTuReD_X: no readme extracted?
[02:41] <IIIEars> ubotu ubotu forget winmac fstab
[02:41] <ubotu> IIIEars: Are you smoking crack?
[02:41] <IIIEars> ubotu forget winmac fstab
[02:41] <ubotu> i didn't have anything called 'winmac fstab', IIIEars
[02:41] <IIIEars> ubotu forget winmac_fstab
[02:41] <ubotu> i forgot winmac_fstab, IIIEars
[02:42] <mpmc> !info msn
[02:42] <Jen20> Where can I download all the security updates for hoary to then rip to a CD? I'd like to install them before connecting to the net with a new installation. http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz doesn't have URIs.
[02:42] <IIIEars> ubotu winmac is winmac_fstab http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/  Ubotu: Psst! Seveas you made me look good again. - Thanks. :)
[02:42] <ubotu> okay, IIIEars
[02:42] <mpmc> !search msn
[02:42] <ubotu> mpmc: Wish i knew
[02:42] <mpmc> search msn
[02:42] <ToRTuReD_X> bimberi,
[02:42] <mpmc> !ubotu help
[02:43] <ToRTuReD_X> none
[02:43] <sexcopter8000m> this might sound like a silly question, but how can i abort a download in wget?
[02:43] <ToRTuReD_X> just apt.xpi and browser.xpi
[02:43] <ToRTuReD_X> close the terminal?
[02:43] <sexcopter8000m> no, i think wget carries on in the background
[02:43] <thesamet> any other breezy user has firefox crashes today?
[02:43] <IIIEars> mpmc - !question_topic_item or  ubotu question_topic_item
[02:44] <Smof> thesamet, one
[02:44] <Dartsani> sex....try system monitor?
[02:44] <Smof> and one yesterday. they're the only times it's crashed for me
[02:44] <IIIEars> hm - irc swallows underlines
[02:44] <ToRTuReD_X> hmm
[02:44] <ToRTuReD_X> how do you update ubuntu
[02:44] <bimberi> ToRTuReD_X: I've only ever used xpi files by opening them in a mozilla app (firefox, thunderbird ...)
[02:45] <ToRTuReD_X> trying to remember the download command
[02:45] <ToRTuReD_X> lol
[02:45] <IIIEars> torsmo or gkrellem system monitors are worth a peak.
[02:45] <sexcopter8000m> Dartsani, yep, found it there
[02:45] <chrissturm> how can i configure how long urls are kept in the history in epiphany?
[02:45] <IIIEars> ToRTuReD_X, - there is a tool under admin tools
[02:46] <IIIEars> apt-get update
[02:46] <CapSoft> where can i get the wmv3 codec?
[02:46] <sorush21> guys how do you mount a .iso image with K3b or Gnome Baker
[02:47] <liran_> so uhm, any ideas how do i create video screenshots in ubuntu?
[02:47] <thesamet> smof, i read in the forums to downgrade libcairo back to 0.5.2. checking now
[02:48] <Dr_Fate> https://www.optionsxpress.com/#
[02:48] <Dr_Fate> THe tabs across the top of that page
[02:49] <Dr_Fate> 2 questions
[02:49] <Dr_Fate> does clikc on them result in anything for you in FF?
[02:49] <yccheok> any scilab user here?
[02:49] <Dr_Fate> and are you able to see the last tab  "help"?
[02:50] <jantan21> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:50] <jantan21> is only available from another source <<< why can't
[02:51] <jantan21> Package xmms has no installation candidate <<<warning
[02:51] <topyli> jantan21: xmms is in universe, which you don't seem to have enabled
[02:53] <jantan21> i can't install xmms
[02:54] <elsha> oh yes, rub it in my face bimberi :P
[02:54] <jantan21> i was try anything but i can't
[02:54] <chrissturm> do i need modules-restricted to get my logitech usb cam working?
[02:54] <Aloysius> help...anyone...i just used partition magic to resize my windows partition to give ubuntu more space and its fried my partition table i think....now when i boot pc its getting to where grub menu should pop up and dying
[02:54] <Ocid> ubotu: tell jantan21 about repos
[02:54] <bimberi> elsha: lol - not the intention i assure you :)
[02:54] <topyli> jantan21: sure you can
[02:55] <Smof> now, what is the command for creating a new directory?
[02:55] <Aloysius> is there a linux version of the windows FDISK -MBR????
[02:55] <Aloysius> mkdir
[02:55] <topyli> Aloysius: partition tables are hard to fix, especially if you don't have it backed up
[02:56] <topyli> Aloysius: grub-install
[02:56] <Aloysius> topyli: would it be possible to install ubuntu again over the top and retain all my settings?
[02:57] <Aloysius> topyli where should i grub-install? from the live cd or at boot on the install cd?
[02:57] <Smof> thankyou
[02:57] <topyli> Aloysius: if your /home is on a separate partition, and if the installer can read the partition table
[02:57] <topyli> Aloysius: live cd, boot floppy, just boot however you can
[02:57] <IIIEars> liran - this looks like a the app you want for DVD totem-xine   here is where it is dicussed. http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/wolves/2005-May/013841.html
[02:58] <topyli> Aloysius: and throw away partition magic :)
[02:58] <Aloysius> im booted in the live cd at moment...so if i drop into a term and run grub-install?
[02:58] <topyli> Aloysius: you need to chroot to your root partition
[02:58] <abhayks> aloysius: try
[02:58] <bimberi> Aloysius: this might help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:58] <Aloysius> topyli: yeh i agree now...have had years of use with it problem free...till today :(
[02:59] <topyli> phone ->
[02:59] <raven3x7> hello
[03:00] <IIIEars> Aloysius - gparted, qtparted or even dd
[03:00] <BiSK-8> hello
[03:00] <raven3x7> has anyone succeded in using the nvidia 6111 drivers wth hoary?
[03:00] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me if i order an iPod from america will it work on the italian usb lines?
[03:00] <mysticness> Wow, what a big channel. Biggest I've ever seen. :P
[03:00] <Dr_Fate> can someone check that link for me please?
[03:00] <topyli> Aloysius: but chrooting is going to be hard since you can't read the partition table
[03:01] <bimberi> mysticness: /join #debian
[03:01] <mysticness> Could I get a census of opinions? I'm a newbie to Linux, and while some people recommended Slackware for stability, they said Ubuntu would be the better route for a newbie like myself.
[03:01] <mysticness> Do you agree?
[03:01] <cosemek> I know it's not the right place, but can anyone help me out with connecting to IRC hrough telnet?
[03:02] <topyli> mysticness: obviously, many on this channel would agree :)
[03:02] <bimberi> mysticness: i would - but this is an interesting place to ask
[03:02] <topyli> mysticness: not all of them newbies either
[03:02] <elsha> cosemek, got irssi?
[03:02] <elsha> irssi <servername>
[03:02] <cosemek> elsha what's that?
[03:02] <IIIEars> mysticness - Sure, Ubuntu is the best. - If you need a little help make a direct connect and i?l walk you through the install! :)
[03:02] <elsha> type it in a telnet window and see if it works
[03:03] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me if there is itunes for ubuntu?
[03:03] <cosemek> nope
[03:03] <elsha> BiSK-8, yes
[03:03] <BiSK-8> and can i get it with apt-get?
[03:03] <mysticness> Does Ubuntu allow newbies to gain more knowledge as they use it? Thanks for the offer, Ears, but I don't have an installation CD yet. I'm ordering one from the site as soon as I figure out what the US's country code is...
[03:03] <elsha> cosemek: try irc <server>
[03:04] <topyli> mysticness: it hides nothing
[03:04] <mysticness> Awesome.
[03:04] <elsha> BiSK-8, i've only just installed ubuntu myself, but i have seen ipod features in music player
[03:04] <Aloysius> fingers crossed.... fdisk -l /dev/hda shows all my partitions are there...
[03:04] <IIIEars> mysticness. - it is pretty insulated from what runs under the hood.
[03:04] <raven3x7> anyone know why the 6111 nvidia drivers wont install?
[03:04] <topyli> IIIEars: it is?
[03:05] <bimberi> BiSK-8: there's also "gtkpod"
[03:05] <mysticness> One of my primary reasons for switching to Linux is to learn more about computers in general, so as long as I can get down and dirty with the OS when I decide I'm good enough, I'm fine.
[03:05] <IIIEars> topyli - a new user can use nothing but a gui for nearly everything.
[03:06] <topyli> IIIEars: of course. and another user may use a bunch of terminals :)
[03:06] <IIIEars> true ;)
[03:07] <mysticness> I've worked a little bit in DOS and other terminal programs like a MySQL server. Sure, it's not much experience, but every little bit counts to a newbie.
[03:07] <BiSK-8> ok
[03:07] <topyli> IIIEars: personally i treat ubuntu as a debian box
[03:07] <BiSK-8> thanks
[03:08] <BiSK-8> and bimberi or elsha, are the usb plugs universal? will it work here in italy if i order it from the us?
[03:08] <ToRTuReD_X> man
[03:08] <topyli> mysticness: you'll love the unix shells after dos. these shells you can actually do some stuff with :)
[03:08] <IIIEars> mysticness - great support. (500 users in this room)
[03:08] <ToRTuReD_X> i am so close to downloading debian and installing it
[03:09] <raven3x7> ToRTuReD_X, me too
[03:09] <mysticness> I'm not 100% familiar with what a shell is, but yeah; DOS is a pain. I expected it to be able to do a lot of things, since it's text based. But it's not all that useful, from my experiences.
[03:10] <IIIEars> ToRTuReD_X, - are you looking for a list of things ubotu knows?
[03:10] <mysticness> Good for formatting, though. ;]
[03:10] <cosemek> mysticness, lol
[03:10] <godzirra_> Anyone have experience getting bootsplash to work nicely with ubuntu?
[03:10] <topyli> mysticness: basically, any interface is a shell (even the crappy dos command line)
[03:11] <raven3x7> is there a cheatcode to start ubuntu without udev?
[03:11] <godzirra_> Seveas: someone told me you did, but I dont think yuo're ever actually here? :)
[03:11] <raven3x7> like -noudev or smomething?
[03:11] <IIIEars> trouble is the syntax for windows terminals is ?pdated"seemingly whenever M$ has a whim.
[03:11] <topyli> mysticness: this is a multiuser multi-tasking OS. dos is a single-user non-multitaskin non-os :)
[03:11] <bimberi> BiSK-8: i'd be very suprised if it didn't work
[03:12] <BiSK-8> bimberi, for electrical equiptment u need an adaptor
[03:12] <BiSK-8> here
[03:12] <mysticness> Oh, so even an emulator could be considered a shell.
[03:12] <topyli> mysticness: its user interface could
[03:12] <raven3x7> !udev
[03:12] <ubotu> raven3x7: I don't know
[03:12] <bimberi> BiSK-8: yes indeed, but you were asking about usb
[03:12] <mysticness> Yeah, that's what I mean.
[03:12] <raven3x7> hmm
[03:12] <mysticness> It's 8 AM and I haven't had coffee yet
[03:12] <mysticness> x_x
[03:13] <liraz> Has anyone succesfully setup windows fonts? I have made my own specialised fonts.conf which works fine.  Themes, if you will? I'm a pixel artist and eventually plan on creating my own themes/skins for whatever OS I move to.
[03:14] <IIIEars> topyli - everything larger than tmsrtbt floppy is - bloated. j/k
[03:15] <bimberi> BiSK-8: I can't give you an iron-clad guarantee but I'd be very very suprised if usb wasn't a universal standard
[03:15] <IIIEars> !themes
[03:15] <ubotu> hmm... themes is http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/
[03:15] <topyli> mysticness: if you can't find what you like from the 100 or so window managers and desktop environments, write your own :)
[03:15] <mysticness> Hmm, good point.
[03:15] <IIIEars> !gdm
[03:15] <ubotu> I don't know, IIIEars
[03:15] <topyli> and yes, most of them are themeable and configurable
[03:15] <IIIEars> ubotu amnesiac is you
[03:15] <ubotu> IIIEars: okay
[03:15] <LasseL> I just installed openbox. I am really amazed how fast it runs compared to metacity
[03:16] <nophix> mysticness: and it's open source, nuff said ;)
[03:16] <topyli> hack away!
[03:16] <mysticness> I've come to love open source.
[03:17] <mysticness> Now if only I had the skills to make use of its open-sourceness.
[03:17] <mysticness> :P
[03:17] <thenuke> now if I only could make love to open source
[03:17] <nophix> the skills are open source too
[03:17] <mysticness> I'm learning PHP, so I guess it's a start.
[03:17] <topyli> thenuke: it is
[03:17] <Andares> If only love were open source.
[03:17] <mysticness> 1000 years ago, it was
[03:17] <cosemek> Andares O_o
[03:17] <mysticness> Promiscuity and all.
[03:17] <IFRFLYR> Morning (or afternoon) all ; I'm trying to install Net::FTP and having troubl,e probably cause I'm completely ignorant of Perl but need it. I did perl -e shell MCPAN and install Net::FTP and got Not enough arguments on install. Can anyone  help?
[03:18] <Andares> Selecting previously deselected package 'love'.
[03:18] <Arnald> is there a known build prob with libavformat ATM? - avformat.h:214: error: nested redefinition of 'enum AVDiscard'
[03:18] <cosemek> BRB
[03:18] <Andares> ERROR: Unresolved Dependencies. (libhuman1, sex2.3.1-ubuntu1)
[03:18] <Arnald> sorry wrong tab ;)
[03:19] <nophix> who needs love, i have porn-get
[03:19] <cosemek> congrats
[03:19] <mysticness> :)
[03:19] <cosemek> though I just DL them
[03:19] <mysticness> I have a 20KB/s connection.
[03:19] <mysticness> So that's laughable.
[03:19] <cosemek> I have 200KB connection :D
[03:19] <mysticness> I don't have a CD burner, either.
[03:20] <cosemek> oh
[03:20] <cosemek> I got DVD-Burner :)
[03:20] <mysticness> This comp is 6 years old. I can't wait to get enough money to build a new one. This one's OEM, too.
[03:20] <cosemek> Mine is 4.5 years old..
[03:20] <topyli> Andares: liar :)
[03:20] <cosemek> the only thing ive upgraded is the dvd burner
[03:21] <Andares> >;o
[03:21] <priest> is it some kind of joke that 'open command line' is gone in the right-click-meny in new gnome? (in breeze)
[03:21] <IIIEars> ubotu xwindows is Linux freedom Style, User power, or RAM stingy speed Ubuntu linux is what you want it to be. http://xwinman.org/
[03:21] <ubotu> okay, IIIEars
[03:21] <mysticness> I'd upgrade this comp, but it's a Dell, and pretty much everything needs upgrading. It'd be cheaper(and nicer) to just buy all the stuff for a new one.
[03:21] <topyli> mysticness: the shipping is notoriously slow. could you get someone to burn the cd for you?
[03:22] <mysticness> My parents have a computer with a CD burner, but there's no way they'd keep a download dialog box open for that long.
[03:22] <mysticness> And I can't seem to get the network view to work on my side of the connection.
[03:22] <topyli> they're on modem as well?
[03:22] <mysticness> It's actually supposed to be DSL, but we're so far from the source that the speed just plain sucks.
[03:22] <elsha> has anyone ever had the problems of programs just not loading? i'm trying to open gnomemeeting, it appears as 'starting' on the panel, and the cursor is 'loading', but just nothing opens. and its not in the minimised section of the panel.
[03:23] <IIIEars> mysticness - try a net cafe or net game center.
[03:23] <mysticness> I live out in the boonies. :(
[03:23] <topyli> mysticness: time to teach them how to use download managers and dowload a bit at a time :)
[03:23] <topyli> like bittorrent
[03:23] <mysticness> Hmm..
[03:24] <LasseL> yeah get BT
[03:24] <topyli> unless they think it's criminal
[03:24] <LasseL> not any more criminal than ftp
[03:24] <bimberi> elsha: try running it from a terminal to see if there is an error
[03:24] <IIIEars> gozilla or getright for windows a pretty good (adware/nagware non-free)
[03:24] <topyli> LasseL: no it's not, but some people are brainwashed to think so
[03:24] <topyli> :(
[03:24] <mysticness> I dunno what they think. I just know that they won't keep a download open for very long. After an hour they'd probably get flustered.
[03:24] <elsha> no error
[03:25] <elsha> just goes to the next line, and doesn't open it
[03:25] <cosemek> BRB, switching to my linux
[03:25] <elsha> i've tried reinstalling it through the repository
[03:25] <mysticness> Hmm..
[03:25] <elsha> it just likes to break *smacks ubuntu around*
[03:25] <sorush20> guys how do I move to the root directory form terminal...
[03:26] <Dartsani> cd /
[03:26] <topyli> mysticness: it's the recommended download method
[03:26] <mysticness> Sweet.
[03:26] <topyli> cheaper on them :)
[03:27] <mysticness> i386.torrent for a Pentium 3, correct?
[03:27] <sorush20> sam@ubuntu:/root$ gzip d pavcl_linux_i386.tgz
[03:27] <sorush20> gzip: d: No such file or directory
[03:27] <sorush20> gzip: pavcl_linux_i386.tgz: No such file or directory
[03:27] <topyli> mysticness: yes
[03:27] <bimberi> elsha: try using dpkg with the -P switch to fully purge the package before reinstalling
[03:28] <elsha> err
[03:28] <bimberi> elsha: removes any config files
[03:28] <ToRTuReD_X> hmm
[03:28] <IIIEars> msticness - md5sum your file - md5summer or filelyzer (M$)
[03:28] <ToRTuReD_X> seriously contemplating going back to windows
[03:28] <elsha> okies
[03:28] <sorush20> guys I keep getting these errors
[03:28] <ToRTuReD_X> linux is good but i need to be able to dualboot
[03:28] <ToRTuReD_X> :/
[03:28] <topyli> ToRTuReD_X: you are
[03:28] <mysticness> md5sum? That's Latin to me. I know what an MD5 hash is, but I don't know what it's used for.
[03:29] <concept10> sorush20, you need to use sudo
[03:29] <elsha> sorush20, why are you in /root?
[03:29] <topyli> mysticness: to check that you have the same file that the server has, i.e. that the download was a success
[03:29] <IIIEars> ToRTuReD_X, - Do you have two drives installed on your macine? - poor mans grub would be to use the bios to exchange master drives on boot up.
[03:29] <elsha> you want to be in /, and you want to check if the file is actually there by typing ls | more
[03:29] <mysticness> How can I do that? I'm running Win98SE at the moment.
[03:30] <topyli> mysticness: go to nonags.com or someplace and get a checksum utility for windows
[03:31] <sorush20> I keep getting the same error..... and I'm in rout because the installation instruction on the panda website suggestedit... are you saying I can be in a directory... like on the desktop.... here is the error again with the sudo command....
[03:31] <sorush20> sam@ubuntu:/root$ sudo gzip d pavcl_linux_i386.tgz
[03:31] <sorush20> gzip: d: No such file or directory
[03:31] <sorush20> gzip: pavcl_linux_i386.tgz: No such file or directory
[03:31] <mysticness> Ah, okay. I have to find my BT client first, though.. o_O;
[03:31] <LasseL> ToRTuReD_X, my ubuntu set up dual booting automatically when I installed it
[03:31] <topyli> sorush20: so the file is not in /root
[03:31] <sorush20> topyil, yes it is in root
[03:31] <elsha> sorush20, obviously, the file isn't there. installation instructions "suggest" they dont know what your file management system is
[03:31] <elsha> no, it isn't in root
[03:31] <elsha> obviously
[03:32] <topyli> sorush20: verify with ls
[03:32] <topyli> sorush20: /root is root's home directory. the filesystem's root is /
[03:32] <mysticness> w00t, started my download. I'll go hunt that checksum utility.
[03:32] <jantan21> hi
[03:33] <mpmc> lol
[03:33] <topyli> mysticness: i get all my windows freeware from nonags, they're bound to have one
[03:33] <sorush20> I've pasted the ls output in the flood could you have a look .. the installations instructions are here http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/linux/instala.asp
[03:34] <echelon> hmm this is intresting.
[03:34] <topyli> sorush20: antivirus? are you running a mail server for windows clients?
[03:34] <echelon> You guys use XChat or terminal?
[03:34] <nightswim> irssi
[03:34] <derreck> XChat.
[03:34] <echelon> :D
[03:35] <Will_> irssi forever
[03:35] <noodle> xchat ><
[03:35] <arnonym> i dist-upgraded to breezy and now my firefox didn't show text anymore. the menu is just some underscores
[03:35] <topyli> echelon: xchat locally. now i'm about 500 miles away so i use irssi through ssh and screen :)
[03:35] <wezzer-> vote for irssi
[03:35] <mysticness> Is there a particular program I want to search for? I think I remember someone saying something about "md5summer"
[03:35] <Will_> I shell to an 'always up' server and irssi there
[03:35] <kostkon> xchat
[03:35] <Will_> I would run msn through it if I trusted bitlbee not to break
[03:35] <sorush20> topyli, no but I would like to be able to run scans ... once in a while on media....  downloaded... and files shared...
[03:35] <topyli> bitlbee would rule if it worked :(
[03:35] <mpmc> My Music sounds flat... wheres the boost?
[03:36] <topyli> sorush20: i'm not on #flood but you should be able to read ls output and check if the file is there or not
[03:37] <jantan21> can u share printer  windows to linux ubuntu
[03:37] <jantan21> can u help me share printer  windows to linux ubuntu
[03:37] <sorush20> the file is there.. but here is the error again.. sam@ubuntu:/root$ sudo tar xvf pavcl_linux_i386.tar
[03:37] <sorush20> tar: invalid option --
[03:37] <sorush20> Try `tar --help' for more information.
[03:37] <jantan21> not linux to windows
[03:37] <mysticness> Hm, SmartMD5 sounds pretty good.
[03:37] <jantan21> but windows to linux
[03:38] <echelon> can i make aliases and stuff through irssi?
[03:38] <topyli> jantan21: share it on windows, install the samba client on linux
[03:38] <incon> evenings
[03:38] <Will_> sorush20: so stop using '--'
[03:38] <incon> well its evenings for me
[03:38] <topyli> echelon: you can do more on irssi than one can learn in a lifetime :)
[03:38] <echelon> topyli: lol?
[03:38] <Will_> irssi can use perl. this means you can do ANYTHING
[03:38] <echelon> Will_: never known perl :( .
[03:38] <topyli> echelon: therefore, i use xchat whenever i can get an X display =)
[03:39] <incon> Will_, is open source so to can change it anyway you like :P so your plugins is not your only option
[03:39] <sorush20> will_, what do you meanso stop using '--'
[03:39] <mysticness> Crap..
[03:39] <echelon> im kinda into scripting and stuff lately, i wanna try and make a trivia bot :P
[03:40] <arnonym> sorush20: sudo tar xvf pavcl_linux_i386.tar
[03:41] <Will_> arnonym: Thank you.
[03:41] <arnonym> Will_: :-)
[03:41] <topyli> echelon: although xchat can run perl and python scripts too
[03:42] <topyli> echelon: the xchat text interface just sucks too much, so i use irssi on consoles
[03:42] <mysticness> No luck with Nonags.. I found the software, but the site I need to download from is apparently b0rked.
[03:42] <topyli> hrm.
[03:42] <incon> i only launch xchat to search channel lists :/ its the only reason i find this channel as it was the default setup
[03:42] <incon> otherwise i use irssi
[03:43] <topyli> incon: irssi doesn't search channels?
[03:43] <incon> topyli, not that i no of
[03:43] <topyli> incon: complain to cras :)
[03:43] <incon> lol
[03:43] <thenuke> well it does search channels
[03:43] <incon> if you type /list in irssi you get
[03:43] <thenuke> /help list
[03:43] <incon> 21:43 -!- Irssi: Doing this is not a good idea. Add -YES option to command if
[03:43] <incon>           you really mean it
[03:44] <char1iecha1k> can someone help me work arpwatch please
[03:44] <thenuke> "Thus, on IRCNet, you should rather use service ALIS (Advanced Listing Service), which will allow you to query for channel with specific name, topic, mode or usercount. Type /SQUERY ALIS HELP to get more info about it."
[03:44] <Will_> You don't need to paste this into the channel y'know..
[03:44] <topyli> incon: although i'm not sure he's very keen on developing irssi further. he's busy with dovecot and irssi2
[03:44] <sorush20> arnonym, thanks that worked... how do I run the program now.. can someone let me know... I have put the output on the flood..
[03:45] <incon> topyli, its not an issue for me
[03:45] <incon> i really use list
[03:45] <incon> rarely
[03:45] <topyli> generally i know which channels i want to join :)
[03:46] <mysticness> 22 mB on my Ubuntu download.
[03:46] <thenuke> I have never used list or anything :)
[03:46] <incon> topyli, the best solution is if all irc servers had a website to search the list online
[03:46] <mpmc> how do I change the x windows manager from kdm back to gdm?
[03:46] <thenuke> If I am interested in  linux I just type /join  linux =)
[03:46] <thenuke> and so on
[03:46] <njan> incon, isn't that what ircspy is for? :P
[03:46] <topyli> mysticness: that's not a bad speed. BT is faster than ftp most of the time
[03:46] <arnonym> sorush20: i cannot help you on this. i don't know "panda antivirus"
[03:46] <incon> ircspy ?
[03:46] <njan> http://www.ircspy.com/
[03:47] <incon> i dont want to cache a irc channel list just to search it
[03:47] <incon> its a waste of bandwidth
[03:47] <mpmc> ??
[03:47] <njan> actually, I think that ircspy is more about warez, but I'm sure there's another IRC search engine out there which lists channels and does stuff like that..
[03:47] <njan> incon, what you've described is what ircspy does.
[03:48] <topyli> there's probably a web search for any irc network
[03:48] <mpmc> How do I change the default windows manager?
[03:48] <njan> or $_other_irc_search_tool that I've forgotten about.
[03:48] <incon> njan, when i only want to like a server is doesnt cache ?
[03:48] <njan> http://searchirc.com/ <= that one.
[03:48] <elsha> hey bimberi, still around?
[03:48] <topyli> mpmc: take a look in /etc/defaults, and use update-alternatives to change your defaults
[03:49] <elsha> hmm, nevermind
[03:49] <topyli> mpmc: /etc/alternatives even
[03:49] <mpmc> thx for answering
[03:49] <incon> njan, nope
[03:49] <bimberi> too late
[03:49] <njan> incon, I have no idea what you said.
[03:49] <incon> i dont want by toipc i what by server
[03:49] <incon> irc server
[03:49] <tech> happy sysaddmin day.
[03:49] <echelon> anyone remember how can I leave notes? something like msgserv
[03:50] <bimberi> is Jul 29 sysadmin day?
[03:50] <incon> njan, i doesnt matter i dont care about it
[03:50] <Randall64> Megalomaniac Day!
[03:50] <bimberi> lol ... that's better
[03:51] <incon> njan, i'm sorry i'm drunk to only time i join new channels is when i have been drinking
[03:51] <arnonym> argh. there is a mozilla-firefox package (which doesn't work) and a firefox package (which does) in breezy when using universe
[03:51] <Poromies> bimberi: yes today is "Systemadmin Day" :)
[03:51] <char1iecha1k> anybody help me with arpwatch please
[03:51] <bimberi> heh ... oh well ... only 10 mins left :)
[03:51] <mpmc> Gah... I dont know how to change kdm back to gdm!
[03:51] <Will_> friends don't let friends irc drunk
[03:52] <mpmc> help
[03:53] <incon> cya's i will be back later maybe....
[03:54] <mpmc> How do I change back gdm as default :(
[03:54] <topyli> bimberi: you could celebrate sysadmin day in EEST and have more time to go :)
[03:54] <mpmc> anyone...  I aint got a clue!
[03:54] <topyli> mpmc: the same update-alternatives
[03:54] <mpmc> ehh?
[03:55] <topyli> mpmc: "update-alternatives x-display-manager" or something like that
[03:56] <Will_> wajig looks interesting
[03:56] <bimberi> mpmc: /etc/X11/default-display-manager looks promising - perhaps edit that
[03:56] <topyli> Will_: the downside is you forget most dpkg, apt and other switches :)
[03:56] <paulproteus|jhu> Will_, What's wajig?
[03:56] <se7enone> Why sometimes am I not able to open my cdroms either with the button or software eject?
[03:57] <topyli> se7enone: probably some shell or program has it as current working dir
[03:57] <mpmc> ok.. lets see
[03:57] <ethics> se7enone, use lsof or fuser to see whats got hold of the device when it happens
[03:58] <se7enone> thx
[03:58] <se7enone> how would i release it then...?
[03:58] <ethics> se7enone, also see if umount works...if it fails then the error may elude info...
[03:58] <sorush20> could anyone recommend an antivirus program please...
[03:59] <paulproteus|jhu> sorush20, there are no viruses [in the wild]  for Linux systems.
[03:59] <chorton> How can I change resolution in fluxbox?
[03:59] <paulproteus|jhu> The closest Linux has is worms, which you can avoid by not running vulnerable services.
[03:59] <topyli> se7enone: killing the process that is using the disc. umount -l might also work
[03:59] <paulproteus|jhu> sorush20, in other words, just watch the Software Update thing, and if it says to get any updates, get them.
[03:59] <MartenH> paulproteus: that anyone knows of ;)
[03:59] <paulproteus|jhu> MartenH, Well, okay.... :)
[03:59] <ethics> se7enone, theres a lazy unmount they say not to use for hard disks etc but dvds and cds shouldnt hurt too much....i think its umount -l  which will kill regardless of use\
[03:59] <sorush20> could anyone recommend an antivirus program please ...    what your saying that... no one on the planet has written a virus for linux....
[03:59] <paulproteus|jhu> In the wild.
[04:00] <ethics> sorush20, clamav
[04:00] <paulproteus|jhu> sorush20, There is clamav (and lots of GUIs), but that mostly looks for Windows and Mac viruses.
[04:00] <the--dud> hmm, autopackage fails for me :/
[04:00] <topyli> sorush20: i used to use f-secure but it's not free. really, you don't need one since you have no clients to protect
[04:00] <paulproteus|jhu> sorush20, There aren't really "viruses" on Windows or Mac anymore, either.
[04:00] <paulproteus|jhu> sorush20, Windows "viruses" in the news these days are all worms.
[04:00] <the--dud> well, actually not autopackage itself, but lincity-NG
[04:01] <ethics> just application exploits
[04:01] <paulproteus|jhu> They attack the computer either by tricking the user into opening emails, or they break into the computer remotely.
[04:01] <windex> hrm. no way to get ubuntu to use a promise fasttrak 100 is there?
[04:01] <paulproteus|jhu> windex, I think mine worked out of the box.
[04:01] <paulproteus|jhu> sorush20, On Linux, it's so much work to make a program executable that the first one wouldn't work against users.  And to get hacked remotely, you'd have to ignore Software Update.
[04:01] <sorush20> what about a firewall... I'm trying to enable the port 110, can someone recommend  something..
[04:01] <ethics> windex yeah im pretty sure there is\
[04:01] <windex> paulproteus|jhu: the partitioner hangs at 58% :)
[04:02] <paulproteus|jhu> windex, Oh, that's sad.
[04:02] <echelon> what package I need to install perl?
[04:02] <windex> it also detects the drives on it as 2 seperate disks.
[04:02] <paulproteus|jhu> windex, Are you trying to do hardware RAID?
[04:02] <topyli> sorush20: if you install a ftp server, ubuntu will likely open the port
[04:02] <topyli> sorush20: same with other services
[04:02] <elsha> is it possible to have incorrect drivers installed for a webcam, and yet have it still work in xawtv?
[04:02] <windex> paulproteus|jhu: well, the windows install on the machine uses it for hardware raid . . . as does the freebsd install? :P
[04:03] <ethics> sorush20, iptables is your firewall,  tools like firestarter and bastille etc are guis for setting it up ...
[04:03] <paulproteus|jhu> windex, In general, Linux support for hardware raid is weak; Linux driver delopers usually claim that most consumer-grade hardware doesn't do good RAID, so they prefer the Linux software RAID layer.
[04:03] <echelon> what package I need to install perl?
[04:03] <paulproteus|jhu> I think they're telling the truth, but I don't know for *sure*...
[04:03] <paulproteus|jhu> sorush20, You don't have to "enable the port 110".
[04:03] <paulproteus|jhu> If you set up a service there, you'll be listening on that port.
[04:03] <windex> paulproteus|jhu: the problem is that windows and linux can not coexist on the same hardware in that configuration. :P
[04:03] <ddink> have a problem, programs just close
[04:04] <drcode> hi all
[04:04] <drcode> can I share dir with ssh ?
[04:04] <paulproteus|jhu> windex, Why not?  Just make two partitions in the same place on both drives; have Linux do software RAID between tohse two.
[04:04] <drcode> If I have two linux , who I can share dirs?
[04:04] <paulproteus|jhu> drcode, Sure.  If you want to download files from your computer by SCP from Windows, use WinSCP; on Mac, use Fugu.
[04:04] <Gentil> hi
[04:04] <paulproteus|jhu> drcode, If you have two Linux machines on the same (private) network, you'll find NFS is easier.
[04:05] <windex> paulproteus|jhu: this motherboard only has the raid controller, no normal IDE, windows sees it as a raid controller, and it's configured as raid 0 (striped).
[04:05] <chn> god damn apache
[04:05] <paulproteus|jhu> windex, RAID 0?
[04:05] <drcode> NFS
[04:05] <drcode> thanx
[04:05] <paulproteus|jhu> That's not RAID :)
[04:05] <windex> i know.
[04:05] <drcode> is there info how to do it easy?
[04:05] <windex> but its fast. :D
[04:05] <unreal> hmm
[04:05] <chn> why doesnt it set up php4 automagically why i install php4
[04:05] <paulproteus|jhu> windex, That's true.  Sounds nice. :)
[04:06] <paulproteus|jhu> As for making them coexist, I'm not really sure.  I should get back to doing work :)
[04:06] <mpmc> How do I reset the fonts?
[04:06] <unreal> what's the name of one of those web-administration services? (not cpanel, there's a better one)
[04:06] <paulproteus|jhu> unreal, webmin?
[04:06] <unreal> heh
[04:06] <windex> promise provides drivers. is there a way to load drivers into the install for ubuntu without freaking it out?
[04:06] <unreal> could be :/
[04:06] <black13> is possible to rebuild the debian deb packages ... there is obviously a way to build the packages correct?
[04:07] <unreal> paulproteous: it allows the changing of dns records for domain names and such
[04:07] <paulproteus|jhu> black13, dpkg-buildpackage or somesuch.
[04:07] <unreal> doesn't seem to be webmin
[04:08] <elsha> is it possible to have incorrect drivers installed for a webcam, and yet have it still work in xawtv?
[04:08] <chorton> How can I change resolution in fluxbox?
[04:08] <black13> paulproteus|jhu ok
[04:08] <sorush20> topyli, paulproteus|jhu, what service can I install using synaptic
[04:09] <paulproteus|jhu> apache, postfix, dovecot, courier-imap, vsftpd, ...
[04:09] <IIIEars> chorton xrand 800x600 - check man pages it? been awhile
[04:10] <MartenH> Does someone have time to help me set up the icon theme found here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22989 in a working way?
[04:10] <sorush20> paulproteus|jhu: the reason I ask is that I'm running thunderbird with the webmail extension... and on the extension I get an error that says that the port is not running... this is not the case in root login .... but I don't want to run the computer in root login.... could you help with activating the port 110
[04:11] <chorton> IIlEars, that command doesn't exist, says the console.
[04:11] <fh> ubuntu is the best
[04:11] <phixion> ...
[04:11] <fh> when does breezy come to play?
[04:12] <PrimoTurbo> Hey guys can someone help me with something?
[04:12] <fh> when does breezy come uot?
[04:13] <fh> when does breezy come out?
[04:13] <PrimoTurbo> I'm in /usr/share/wallpapers/ and I want to delete some wallpapers
[04:13] <PrimoTurbo> but it wont let me because I don't have root
[04:13] <phixion> do it from terminal
[04:13] <fh> rm
[04:13] <PrimoTurbo> how do I get root and delete the wallpapers I don't want?
[04:13] <dawnfading> sudo su
[04:13] <phixion> rm /usr/share/wallpapers/filename.jpg
[04:13] <fh> rm *.png *.jpg
[04:13] <PrimoTurbo> I see
[04:13] <phixion> sudo before the rm
[04:13] <phixion> :E
[04:13] <PrimoTurbo> alright thnx I'll give it a try
[04:14] <dawnfading> btw, does somebody know a command to find out from which path a script or executable is executed?
[04:14] <fh> k
[04:14] <chorton> IIlEars, that command doesn't exist, says the console.
[04:14] <mpmc> how to i reset the fonts?
[04:14] <fh> like wtf?
[04:14] <arnonym> dawnfading: which
[04:14] <fh> what command?
[04:15] <b0ca0FF> hi all
[04:15] <b0ca0FF> help-me pls
[04:15] <fh> chorton what command?
[04:15] <dawnfading> so suppose it's a compiled c prog, then just which prog?
[04:15] <fh> b0ca0FF ok
[04:15] <fh> b0ca0FF what is the problem
[04:15] <fh> ?
[04:15] <arnonym> dawnfading: yes.
[04:16] <PrimoTurbo> Alright it worked. Thanks guys :)
[04:16] <graabein> hi guys. anyone know how to modify themes? i want to change the colour of the active window border
[04:16] <dawnfading> hmm, doesn't return anything at all
[04:16] <BR-b0ca0> install all system of ubuntu fh
[04:16] <graabein> i've done it once before but i can't remember how. some xml-file somewhere
 it's easy man
[04:16] <chorton> The command to change resolutions in X.
[04:16] <Dartsani> dawnfading......System-Preferences-Themes
[04:16] <arnonym> dawnfading: your executable is not in the path
 insert the cd
[04:16] <BR-b0ca0> but initializing ths system
[04:16] <chorton> He said to use xrand 800x600
[04:17] <chorton> And that command doesn't exist.
 and reset the computer and then you got some questions you need to answer
[04:17] <Dartsani> graabein i meant :P
[04:17] <arnonym> chorton: it's xrandr
[04:17] <dawnfading> okay, that makes sense anonym
[04:17] <chorton> Ah.
[04:17] <BR-b0ca0> fh i'm back
[04:17] <chorton> *tries*
[04:17] <BR-b0ca0> wait
[04:17] <dawnfading> too many shells open, and my path wasn't changed in the one i was working with
[04:17] <dawnfading> thanks
[04:18] <graabein> Dartsani, yeah i know, but i have the h20oridium window border with amber buttons... and i want to change the gray color to brown
[04:18] <PrimoTurbo> Hey guys where can I get some good linux wallpapers
 ok... i am waiting...
[04:18] <dawnfading> pixelgirl
[04:18] <PrimoTurbo> url?
[04:18] <dawnfading> google it
[04:18] <dawnfading> first link
[04:18] <black13> what is evms
[04:18] <PrimoTurbo> k
[04:19] <PrimoTurbo> thnx
[04:19] <graabein> PrimoTurbo, i've tried pixelgirl. lots of good stuff there
[04:19] <dawnfading> not particular linux but still good
[04:19] <holycow> PrimoTurbo, the same places you get them for windows
[04:19] <holycow> its just an image
[04:19] <PrimoTurbo> yup, exactly what I'm looking for
[04:19] <dawnfading> http://www.littlefactory.com/lf.html
[04:19] <fh> who's from israel down here?
[04:19] <graabein> there was a thread in ubuntu forums with some nice links
[04:19] <dawnfading> has some really good backgrounds
[04:19] <dawnfading> they're tiled but quite unique
[04:20] <PrimoTurbo> I'll check ubuntu forums also
[04:20] <PrimoTurbo> anyone else using kubuntu?
[04:20] <graabein> PrimoTurbo, search for "pixelgirl" in the forums. it will probably show up. gnome all the way here
 no
[04:20] <phixion> I'm using http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=27077&PHPSESSID=66e7495b80abd31b04744662f4c89b38 atm :) nice wallpapers
 i *love* gnome
[04:20] <elsha> #kubuntu
[04:20] <|rockinnerd|> i've got a problem
[04:20] <phixion> gnome here too :E
[04:20] <|rockinnerd|> with alsa
[04:21] <PrimoTurbo> I like gnome too but I'm just trying KDE and I like it also
[04:21] <|rockinnerd|> i try playing an mp3, or any other sound, and i hear a high-pitched squeaking in the background, suggestions?
[04:21] <chorton> arnonym, thanks for the tip.
[04:21] <chorton> Do you know a command to restart the x server?
[04:21] <phixion> ctrl alt backspace
[04:21] <arnonym> chorton: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:22] <shawarma> LOL
[04:22] <arnonym> works :-)
[04:22] <phixion> :D
[04:22] <ethics> |rockinnerd|, alsa project docs and google first
[04:22] <gyaresu_> exit
[04:22] <fh>   ???????????
[04:23] <graabein> what app do you guys use for xml-files?
[04:23] <|rockinnerd|> what do you mean "use for xml-files"?
[04:23] <chorton> I want you all to know you are my heroes.
[04:23] <graabein> when you open a xml file for editing. syntax highlighting etc
[04:24] <|rockinnerd|> quanta maybe?
[04:24] <python_> graabein Jedit good
[04:24] <|rockinnerd|> actually, maybe kate, b/c it does syntax coloring
[04:24] <gyaresu> meh. hello.
[04:24] <graabein> it would be nice if it had an option for checking the file vs schema def also...
[04:25] <gyaresu> friend used patition magic and killed his GRUB. anyone remember the process of fixing it?
[04:25] <gyaresu> and good-evening (of course)
[04:25] <phend> hi all. I've got some code which does this: tal:attributes="href python: here.absolute_url()+'?set_status=1 -- but i'm trying to figure out where to put code which acts upon the value passed in set_status
[04:26] <phend> ie. where so I look through the query string, and call a method depending on the value?
[04:27] <|rockinnerd|> gyaresu, boot offof a knoppix cd, mount your root partition, and chroot into your mount point for your root partition. Run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda
[04:27] <|rockinnerd|> or sda if it's serial
[04:27] <|rockinnerd|> drive
[04:27] <graabein> i opened the file in bluefish. looks allright.
[04:27] <gyaresu> |rockinnerd|, aye. thanks.
[04:27] <|rockinnerd|> np
[04:28] <|rockinnerd|> good morning all who are in the US
[04:28] <graabein> hmmm... looks like i have to edit some png-files to change colour of title-bar in h20ridium
[04:29] <billyanachronism> hey :S
[04:29] <billyanachronism> I did something silly
[04:29] <paulproteus|jhu> |rockinnerd|, Good morning.
[04:30] <thespiritoftal> whenever I open amule it says my 4662nd port is not open and I get LOWID how can i fix this problem?
[04:30] <BR-b0ca0> fh error: "fatal error, hutplup subsystem, modprobe operation not permitid"
[04:30] <graabein> i'm from norway. just got home from work. the weekend starts here!
[04:30] <shawarma> Doesn anyone know when jbailey usually shows up?
[04:30] <BR-b0ca0> this error in initializing my system ubuntu warty whartog"
[04:30] <BR-b0ca0> fh error: "fatal error, hutplup subsystem, modprobe operation not permitid"
[04:30] <BR-b0ca0> this error in initializing my system ubuntu warty whartog"
[04:31] <|rockinnerd|> so there is no coldplug daemon in ubuntu?
[04:31] <PrimoTurbo> found a sweet earth wallpaper
[04:31] <PrimoTurbo> http://images.customize.org/category/wallpaper/EarthView1-2_full.gif
[04:33] <BR-b0ca0> help-me
[04:33] <BR-b0ca0> this error in initializing my system ubuntu warty whartog
[04:33] <fh> ok
[04:33] <BR-b0ca0> this error in initializing my system ubuntu warty whartog"
[04:33] <billyanachronism> I changed yaboot.conf
[04:33] <graabein> the xml-file looks good in the default text editor gedit also
[04:33] <gyaresu> BR-b0ca0, ?
[04:33] <billyanachronism> to have a timeout of 5 seconds
[04:33] <thespiritoftal> whenever I open amule it says my 4662nd port is not open and I get LOWID how can i fix this problem?
[04:33] <billyanachronism> and now I can't get into ubuntu :(
[04:33] <supernix> hiya gang
[04:33] <fh> why won't you try hoary??
[04:33] <fh> why won't you try hoary??
 why won't you try hoary??
[04:34] <supernix> anyone know of a program that can create secure passwords as well as store them ?
[04:34] <BR-b0ca0> fh $$
[04:34] <gyaresu> fh, BR-b0ca0 fh this ones yours yes?
[04:34] <fh> what?
[04:34] <gyaresu> fh, : the problem.
[04:34] <BR-b0ca0> money
[04:34] <BR-b0ca0> o dont buy to cd hoary
[04:35] <fh> download it
[04:35] <supernix> anyone know of a program that can create secure passwords as well as store them ?
[04:35] <gyaresu> fh k. ignore me.
[04:35] <gyaresu> BR-b0ca0, are you on dialup?
 ok.. now to ignore?
[04:35] <BR-b0ca0> no
[04:35] <BR-b0ca0> adsl 1mg
[04:35] <gyaresu> fh, yes.
[04:36] <fh> ok
[04:36] <znh> I've made a bash script, but I'd like to let it be ran every hour - Is that possible?
[04:36] <fh> i'm ignoring...
[04:36] <gyaresu> BR-b0ca0, prefix your comments with the name of the person you talk to and 'get hoary'.
[04:36] <elwood> hi
[04:36] <BR-b0ca0> i only resolv this problem
[04:37] <arnonym> znh: create a cron job
[04:37] <gyaresu> fh thank you.
 for?
[04:37] <BR-b0ca0> "fatal error: hotplug subsystem.... modprobe, operation not permited
[04:37] <gyaresu> fh the ignoring (sarcasm)
[04:37] <BR-b0ca0> why this
[04:37] <znh> arnonym: aha, so it is possible! is there a full name for it? then i'll search some manual myself
 i realy don't know what you wanna
[04:37] <gyaresu> fh (with smiles)
 tell me plz
[04:37] <gyaresu> fh (nothing)
[04:37] <fh> ok
[04:38] <gyaresu> fh (just joking)
[04:38] <fh> werdoo
[04:38] <fh> ok
[04:38] <arnonym> znh: "man cron" and take a look in /etc/cron.d
[04:38] <gyaresu> BR-b0ca0, need to 'sudo' to modprobe
[04:38] <fh> breezy go out when?
[04:39] <BR-b0ca0> gyaresu ?
[04:39] <fh> 10.**?
[04:39] <znh> arnonym: ah I see you already found for me, thanks! - you we're great
 listen man, download the new hoary
[04:39] <BR-b0ca0> ok fh
 and install it
[04:39] <elwood> happy ubuntu to meee
 and then use windows(just kiding)
[04:39] <BR-b0ca0> fh thanx
[04:40] <fh> np
[04:40] <fh> someone here heard about the windows vista?
[04:40] <windex> longhorn?
[04:40] <fh> the beta is got out
[04:40] <fh> yea
[04:41] <fh> vista
[04:41] <znh> arnonym: I still don't know how it works and what I have to do in cron.d
[04:41] <ToRTuReD_X> 2 hours left till i have kubuntu
[04:41] <ToRTuReD_X> :/
[04:41] <fh> :\
[04:41] <ToRTuReD_X> hmm
[04:41] <windex> same thing. i doubt they will be able to use vista as they've now got 3 lawsuits against them for trademark infringement.
[04:41] <ToRTuReD_X> gona format and dualboot
[04:41] <fh> gnome rules man
 yea
[04:41] <ToRTuReD_X> fh - tip: keep away from slackware based distros
[04:42] <ToRTuReD_X> ie - vector linux
[04:42] <arnonym> znh: for the syntax you should read "man 5 crontab"
[04:42] <znh> arnonym: thanks
 i know slackware sucks
[04:42] <ToRTuReD_X> it starts automatically in console/termainal mode
[04:42] <ToRTuReD_X> you have to input commands for graphical mode
 i know slackware sucks
[04:42] <Silentsol> ToRTuReD_X: why keep away from slackware based distros?
[04:42] <Silentsol> ToRTuReD_X: im on minislack
[04:42] <ToRTuReD_X> ;/
 pure guy
[04:42] <ToRTuReD_X> woot
[04:42] <windex> slackware has a valid audience.
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> 1 week and i should have a $600+ a week job
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> :D
[04:43] <znh> kopete is too slow for irc, bye changing client
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> slackware is not for the inexperienced or intermediate user
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> it's for the 4+ years advanced user
 you install kubuntu?
[04:43] <Silentsol> ToRTuReD_X: ive been using linux for 2 weeks
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> nah man, downloading now
[04:43] <Silentsol> ToRTuReD_X: my first ever experience with linux has been with minislack. 2 weeks ago
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> i wanna see some screencaps of it though
[04:44] <ToRTuReD_X> :/
 so let me tell you something...
 GNOME PWZ you all!!!!!!!
[04:44] <fh> lol
[04:44] <ToRTuReD_X> lmao
[04:44] <ToRTuReD_X> i know man
[04:44] <ToRTuReD_X> i was on ubuntu
[04:44] <fh> yea yea
[04:44] <chn> i guess well see when longhorn comes out
[04:44] <ToRTuReD_X> but decided to put in a command for the graphics drivers that crashed the GUI
[04:44] <phixion> when it comes out? its out :P
[04:44] <ToRTuReD_X> so i had to format then grub wouldn't install off my install disc
[04:44] <ToRTuReD_X> :/
[04:45] <phixion> well, only beta
[04:45] <chn> phixion, the final
[04:45] <phixion> Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Codename.Longhorn.Beta.1.64Bit.DVD.READ.NFO
[04:45] <phixion> :E
 blat
[04:45] <ToRTuReD_X> nforce.nl mofo
[04:45] <ToRTuReD_X> :D
[04:45] <chn> im trying to get the beta to see what linux is up against
[04:45] <phixion> mope
[04:45] <phixion> nope :P
 too much info
[04:45] <fh> :)
[04:45] <sorush20> anyone here using KDAR
[04:45] <phixion> and its windows vista
[04:45] <phixion> not longhorn :D
[04:45] <the--dud> I'm writing a howto on installing lincity-ng from source now, anyone interested to test it out when I'm done?
[04:45] <gyaresu> your windows is weak
[04:45] <the--dud> 'beta-tester' if you'd like hehe
[04:46] <elwood> the--dud, lincitythe game?
[04:46] <dawnfading> exit
[04:46] <vader1102> morning everone
[04:46] <ToRTuReD_X> the--dud,  if you include a guide to set it up, AND install wine and steam then i will
 so take him to the gim
[04:46] <ToRTuReD_X> :D
[04:46] <the--dud> elwood, yeah, the remake of lincity
[04:46] <ToRTuReD_X> wait
[04:46] <elwood> the--dud, i can
[04:46] <the--dud> ToRTuReD_X, its linux native
[04:46] <ToRTuReD_X> lincity
[04:46] <ToRTuReD_X> lmao
[04:46] <ToRTuReD_X> sounds liek a distro name
[04:46] <windex> i'm a microsoft registered partner. vista/longhorn is not all that impressive to me over XP.
[04:46] <ToRTuReD_X> ;/
[04:46] <the--dud> message me anyone interested, too much chatting here hehe
[04:46] <chn> phixion, yea, just when you thought xp was a lame and overhyped name
[04:47] <elwood> uhm where i can find longhorn?
[04:47] <phixion> its xp with a lame ass theme :)
[04:47] <gyaresu> fh 'the gim'?
[04:47] <the--dud> there's a sleazy bar in my town called Vista
[04:47] <ToRTuReD_X> someone make a good guide for wine and steam
[04:47] <chn> elwood, diverse bt sites
[04:47] <ToRTuReD_X> :/
[04:47] <sorush20> could someone help me with an installation error....
[04:47] <the--dud> i suppose mr bill gates never knew that!
[04:47] <elwood> the--dud, u have to get sources compile and play?
[04:47] <vader1102> windex: I have heard through the grapevine that the sys req. is really high for longhorn
[04:47] <ph8> lo all
[04:47] <ph8> i'm runnig hoary
[04:47] <ph8> is there like an unstable branch?
[04:47] <the--dud> elwood, just testing it out myself now... autopackage install seems not to work
[04:47] <chn> vader1102, its faster than xp
[04:47] <ph8> or does ubuntu not work like that?
[04:47] <the--dud> so yeah, sources it is
 nvm
[04:47] <chn> they say it is at least
[04:47] <elwood> the--dud, i can be a tester :)
[04:47] <gyaresu> fh k
[04:48] <windex> vader1102: you know all that crap in XP that uses CPU to make it look pretty? fading menus in and out? etc? there's more of that crap in longhorn and it's harder to disable all of it.
[04:48] <chn> but everyone claims it runs better than xp
[04:48] <arnonym> ph8:  there is breezy
[04:48] <ph8> beta?
[04:48] <arnonym> ph8: pre-alpha
[04:48] <ToRTuReD_X> i think i'll hold off on linux for a while
[04:48] <ph8> don't fancy that :p
[04:48] <fh> breezy doesn't got X
[04:48] <phixion> what are you running atm ToRTuReD_X ?
[04:48] <ph8> anything bad about using the universe sources for hoary-security and main?
[04:48] <ToRTuReD_X> till i can afford to buy a cheap linux box and install it as a network server
[04:48] <ToRTuReD_X> :P
[04:49] <ToRTuReD_X> right now phixion i'm using Vector Linux
[04:49] <the--dud> not to mention Vista will have DRM far up your rectum
[04:49] <ToRTuReD_X> was using Ubuntu 5.04
[04:49] <phixion> o_O
[04:49] <vader1102> I am going to stay away from it but I will have to learn it because I am a pc consultant in my area and you know the writers for all of these viruses, they will keep me busy lol
[04:49] <phixion> never heard of it
[04:49] <gyaresu> XP == $220AU with a HDD or CPU
[04:49] <phixion> url?
[04:49] <ToRTuReD_X> and Windows XP Service Pack 2 before that
[04:49] <vader1102> I am using Hoary right now lol
[04:49] <the--dud> the wonders up the microsoft/intel DRM services
[04:49] <ToRTuReD_X> www.vectorlinux.com
[04:49] <windex> ToRTuReD_X: k, i am not a linux on the desktop guy, for business anyway, until i installed ubuntu and got it working. ubuntu easially provides a stable business desktop enviroment, and it has enough utilities to provide a home system, with the noted lack of off the shelf software.
[04:50] <ToRTuReD_X> not half bad
[04:50] <phixion> what's vector linux like?
[04:50] <ToRTuReD_X> but not for the newb
[04:50] <ToRTuReD_X> so i'm gonna change
[04:50] <chn> windex, well theres a long way left
[04:50] <ToRTuReD_X> it's good but doesn't come with alot of packages
[04:50] <fh> ToRTuReD_X it's like a distro
[04:50] <justizz> Hi! Could someone "pro" tell me how to remove Grub-loader?
[04:50] <chn> personally id think theres many distros way closed to being a desktop linux
[04:50] <justizz> on ubuntu
[04:50] <chn> most of them are just to anal
[04:51] <chn> i hate rpm distros
 why?
 why to remove grub?
[04:51] <windex> chn: that's true, but i can go take hoary, install it on a business desktop, and have it work for people who need office/web/mail in business.
[04:51] <justizz> my friend installed ubuntu to harddisk which isnt his own ;)
[04:51] <Whistler> justizz just use fix mbr
[04:51] <billyanachronism> hey hey dudes
[04:51] <davro> Hi are there any good howto's on setting a ubuntu as a home dhcp cablebox come firewall, using two network cards, kinda like smoothwall?.
 ok, sudo apt-get remove grub (i think)
[04:51] <justizz> how does it work?
[04:51] <billyanachronism> what do I do to fix this problem eyy
[04:51] <vader1102> chn: I here that the RPM doesn't allways get all of the "other stuff" you need, like dependancies
[04:51] <echelon> hmm i've started learning perl.
[04:51] <justizz> ok
[04:51] <windex> chn: and it seems to work pretty well on Dell n-series machines (n-series = no OS), and since i'm a dell reseller ... :)
[04:51] <ToRTuReD_X> well
[04:51] <billyanachronism> I put the timeout of 5 seconds on yaboot
[04:52] <echelon> How can I make perl scripts run in irssi or whatsoever?
[04:52] <justizz> ill try :P
[04:52] <ToRTuReD_X> what i plan to do is install windows again
[04:52] <billyanachronism> so I can't actually get to linux before it goes to mac os x
[04:52] <elwood> longhorn smeel as macox
[04:52] <chn> ubuntu needs a gfx installer
[04:52] <ToRTuReD_X> maybe dualboot linux for php and python
[04:52] <ToRTuReD_X> i'll see what happens
 luck
[04:52] <chn> nad some shine new crap that seperates it from the herd
[04:52] <the--dud> iconv
[04:52] <chn> and
[04:52] <jantan21> hi all
[04:52] <fh> hi
[04:52] <fh> sup joni?
[04:52] <jantan21> where is download xmms ?
[04:52] <thespiritoftal> how can i view hidden directories in /home/user?
[04:53] <jantan21> do you now?
 you get xmms with ubuntu
[04:53] <davro> ls -a
[04:53] <elwood> have you ever tried winxpe?
[04:53] <jantan21> where is location ?
[04:53] <vader1102> elwood: yes I have, I use it @ the office 6 days a week
[04:54] <jantan21> fh :where is location ?
[04:54] <crimsun> jantan21: use Synaptic or aptitude/apt-get/dselect to search for and install XMMS. The package name is 'xmms'.
 applicasions (on top)
[04:54] <elwood> it's useful...live windows live problems :)
 i think he got xmms with install
[04:54] <phixion>  ToRTuReD_X why do you plan on reinstalling windows?
[04:55] <vader1102> I would rather use the knoppix or the ubuntu live cd's they really allow you to examine what has gone wrong
[04:55] <gyaresu> tell jantan21 about !sources
[04:55] <gyaresu> !sources
[04:55] <ubotu> from memory, sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:55] <phixion> haha
[04:55] <phixion> owned!
[04:55] <mtron> problems with mounting my 3rd gen ipod. whwen i connect it via firewire it does not go into disk mode. how can i reload the necessary modules?
[04:55] <tech> any using kubuntu here?
 lol
[04:55] <crimsun> tech: there's #kubuntu, too
[04:55] <python_> nope GNOME rocks
[04:56] <ToRTuReD_X> phixion,  i need it for steam, and for my websites
 owneage!
[04:56] <elwood> yes gnome and pam usb :)
[04:56] <ToRTuReD_X> photoshop
[04:56] <ToRTuReD_X> i'm lost without it
[04:56] <ToRTuReD_X> ;_;
[04:56] <elwood> ToRTuReD_X,  and gimp?
[04:56] <ToRTuReD_X> ewww
[04:56] <IIIEars> Good Morning crimsun :)
[04:56] <ToRTuReD_X> worst image editor i've ever tried
 sudo apt-get install gimp
[04:57] <ToRTuReD_X> and i've used paintshop pro
 :\
[04:57] <CarlFK> can the bluetooth code for freebsd be compiled for linux, or does it need to be ported/rewritten?
[04:57] <python_> Tortured use the GIMP
 windows than?
[04:57] <ToRTuReD_X> lmao
[04:57] <ToRTuReD_X> indeed
[04:57] <ToRTuReD_X> unless i can find and install VMware
 or use wine
[04:58] <ToRTuReD_X> tried to install
[04:58] <ToRTuReD_X> damn near impossible
[04:58] <ToRTuReD_X> it hates me :(
[04:58] <python_> GIMP is Great
[04:58] <python_> Ive used photoshop two and GIMP does what photoshop does
[04:58] <python_> just have to use it a bit
 me too man, me too.
[04:58] <ToRTuReD_X> python_,  i will bitchslap you so hard gangis kahn will fell it and say wtf was that?
[04:59] <phixion> im more familiar with ps cs2
[04:59] <windex> or install that program that renames gimp's features to look exactally like photoshop
[04:59] <ToRTuReD_X> phixion, same here
[04:59] <python_> I disagree, you just dont wanna learn new programs
[04:59] <virtuel> gimpshop
[04:59] <ToRTuReD_X> is what i use
 try to read some guides about gimp and you love it
[04:59] <ToRTuReD_X> i miss my baby
[04:59] <ToRTuReD_X> :(
[04:59] <python_> gimp is open source
[04:59] <ToRTuReD_X> so is warez
[04:59] <ToRTuReD_X> LMFAO
[04:59] <ToRTuReD_X> <_<
[04:59] <phixion> open source doesnt make any difference :P
[04:59] <virtuel> let's face it: gimp is just no match for photoshop for professionals
[05:00] <ToRTuReD_X> you didn't see that
[05:00] <phixion> ps cs2 is the most superior image editor
[05:00] <sandis> tortured: warez!=oss
[05:00] <python_> the whole point of linux is open source!!
 yes it  does
 it's open
[05:00] <chn> mmmn
[05:00] <phixion> sigh
[05:00] <vader1102> I am starting to use Inkscape a little bit, so far so good
[05:00] <windex> gimp is substantially less broken than print types like to say it is. the only real issue that remains with gimp is no native cmyk but they're trying to fix that. considering most print work is done by supplying pantone colors and using distinct colors to map regions, anyway, though...
[05:00] <phixion> if you are used to cs2, and u know how to use it ALOT better than gimp
[05:00] <virtuel> python_, for some, maybe. for me the point of linux is having something that "just works"
[05:00] <phixion> i dont see why open source would make ANY difference
[05:00] <ToRTuReD_X> python_, tell that to suse and redhat
[05:00] <ToRTuReD_X> damn bastards
[05:00] <CarlFK> what is  ps cs2 ?
[05:01] <Demostrike> Ahh can anyone explain to me why ubuntu has no "build" directory
[05:01] <crimsun> (topic's straying pretty far off-topic)
[05:01] <ToRTuReD_X> photoshop cs2
[05:01] <tritium> Demostrike, for what?
[05:01] <ToRTuReD_X> photoshop creative suite 2
[05:01] <jowi> a user can mount cdrom but not samba shares. what to do?
[05:01] <vader1102> hey tritium, how are you today?
 cuz you can change the open source and it's free and more powerfull
[05:01] <CarlFK> thanks
[05:01] <tritium> vader1102, not bad, you?  The movers are here moving us out...
[05:01] <elsha> please guys, i've been struggling with this for about 7 hours... i've installed my appropriate webcam driver, and it's working fine in xawtv, but when i try to use gnomemeeting it says to check the permissions and that i've installed the right drivers. i've checked the permissions, and the group my user in has read write access as it should. i've removed gnomemeeting package, and reinstalled it. I'm trying to eliminate problems, so would xawt
[05:01] <elsha> v work with the webcam if it was the incorrect drivers?
 you bill!
[05:01] <python_> why whats wrong with suse or redhat
[05:01] <Demostrike> tritium Apparently im suppossed to be making a driver for my wireless card
[05:01] <phixion> fh, it comes down to what you are used to, i took YEARS learning PS2 to the extent I know now
[05:01] <vader1102> oh, have fin dude... glad it is you and not me lol
[05:02] <crimsun> Demostrike: did you install build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[05:02] <tritium> vader1102, well, I'm glad to be moving home :)
[05:02] <vader1102> true
[05:02] <tritium> Demostrike, okay, where do you expect the dir?
[05:02] <vader1102> I just hate moving
[05:02] <phixion> luckily i only use gimp for editing the odd image
 if i'm, telling you it's more coll so it more right?
[05:02] <ToRTuReD_X> well
[05:02] <Demostrike> crimsun hang on ill check, :)
[05:02] <windex> elsha: video on linux is a hard topic to help people with, and last i knew, still changed frequently, breaking apps in the process. what cam do you have?
[05:02] <ToRTuReD_X> i'm off guys
 cool*
[05:02] <ToRTuReD_X> gonna go revert back to xp
[05:02] <python_> dump your proprietry apps and use alternatives that are open source or free software
[05:02] <phixion> fh, english plz
[05:02] <phixion> I don't understand your question :E
[05:03] <Demostrike> tritium under my kernel directory
[05:03] <vader1102> IIIEars: how are you?
[05:03] <elsha> windex, a logitech quickcam express. it's just so frustrating because it's working on another program :(
 open source it's cool that's all, are we understand?
[05:03] <windex> elsha: i have the same cam. let me boot my ubuntu machine and turn it on and see if i can make it work. :)
[05:03] <IIIEars> hi vader! :)
[05:03] <tritium> Demostrike, okay.  I see crimsun is helping you.  I'll not butt in...
[05:04] <phixion> fh, yes its cool, but it wont help me understand a program anymore :D
[05:04] <crimsun> tritium: no, that's fine, I'm leaving for a meeting in a few :)
[05:04] <elsha> windex, cool :)
[05:04] <Demostrike> ill need to load ubuntu back up, ill be back
[05:04] <fh>  <phixion> and now you have to say "yes sor!"
[05:04] <vader1102> tritium: I love this Hoary....it got my sound working on this laptop out of the box
[05:04] <tritium> crimsun, ah, okay.  And I'm getting moved out today, so I may be out of touch for a few days.
[05:04] <crimsun> tritium: k
[05:04] <elwood> this woram is killing me
[05:04] <tritium> vader1102, excellent :)
[05:05] <phixion> fh i think we all agree open source is better, but it wont change my mind about PS and gimp
 ok fine!
[05:05] <meta> elsha - pm me the output of a "lsusb" command
[05:05] <vader1102> tritium: Ubuntu user for life ;-)
[05:05] <tritium> yep ;)
 so i'm 1337 and you not!
[05:05] <paulproteus|jhu> meta, consider using the pastebot so others can join in
[05:05] <MartenH> Can someone hepl me gett his Icon theme operational? It doesn't show up as it should. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22989
 blat, those kides.
[05:06] <xie> Um, I just installed Ubuntu (an older distro) on an older computer I have, and something is definetly broken. When it boots up the screen just shows a bunch of bouncy colorful snow, and no desktop.
[05:06] <phixion> fh o_O you = weirdo :D
[05:06] <elwood> MartenH, download and install
[05:06] <windex> elsha: logging in over vnc..
[05:06] <paulproteus|jhu> xie, Hoary or Warty?
 yes
[05:06] <paulproteus|jhu> In general, we urge you to use the current release, Hoary.
[05:06] <xie> Not an option right now
[05:06] <windex> hm
 you microscop(microsoft)
[05:07] <windex> elsha: can i PM you?
[05:07] <xie> I just ordered the CDs, but all I have is a CD that says "Version 4.10 windows x/86"
[05:07] <phixion> fh no i use ubuntu
[05:07] <xie> err Intel not windows
 and ps in windows
[05:07] <chn> hmmm hmm hmm
[05:07] <phixion> yes fh...
[05:07] <phixion> your point?
[05:07] <meta> elsha -  the 046d:0840 id cam should be supported by this driver http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/ (go download, then get qc-usb script from sourceforge download)
 you use windows!!! let's kill him boys!
[05:07] <chn> 3rd time using ubuntu and im back to compiling from source heheh
[05:07] <phixion> no i use ubuntu
[05:07] <phixion> and only ubuntu
[05:07] <phixion> WEIRDO
[05:07] <MartenH> elwood: I downlaoded it, placed it in ~/.icons and it shows up when i go to system->themes. But the icons doesn't show up and some (such as show desktop) are broken
 lol
 i was just playing man
 take it easy
[05:08] <MartenH> elwood: there is a menu addon that might be needed for it to work but I have no idea how to install that
[05:08] <meta> elsha - my 870 id worked with that script, just make sure you a) install kernel headers (search synaptic) and b) "sudo -s -H" to fully become root before you run it because the script doesn't understand sudo, only su
[05:09] <fh> ok need to go guys
[05:09] <fh> bye
[05:09] <elsha> meta, yeah, i definitely did both a and b when i installed it
[05:09] <elsha> i'll redo it anyways
[05:10] <meta> elsha - the other point is make sure gnome meeting is using v4l not v4l2, you may need to synaptic v4l in
[05:11] <elsha> ah, it is on v4l2
[05:13] <meta> elsha - I think only "libpt-plugins-v4l2" is installed default and you might need  "libpt-plugins-v4l", search synaptic for "v4l" and see if you have it
[05:14] <Demostrike> Okay, i cant find the build dir in the modules/(version)/ folder
[05:14] <tritium> Demostrike, you mean /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build ?
[05:15] <Demostrike> yes :)
[05:15] <Demostrike> do i need to install a package
[05:15] <elsha> YAY \o/
[05:15] <meta> elsha - working?
[05:16] <elsha> yup!
[05:16] <fh> !cmd PRIVMSG hi all
[05:16] <ubotu> fh: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:16] <elsha> meta, thanks a lot :)
 what?
[05:16] <meta> elsha - no probs
[05:16] <xie> OK I just rebooted, it's using the older "Warty" release, I'm assuming it doesn't recognize whatever video adapter I'm using, do I have any options besides wait 6 weeks for a new cd?
 what to explain?
[05:16] <tritium> Demostrike, did you install linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[05:16] <Demostrike> I couldnt find them
[05:17] <fh> !cmd PRIVMSG #ubuntu :hi all
[05:17] <bot666> hi all
[05:17] <ubotu> fh: Are you smoking crack?
[05:17] <fh> no
[05:17] <j_fletcher> I wish I was
[05:17] <fh> !cmd PRIVMSG #ubuntu :no hell no! crack is no good man!
[05:17] <bot666> no hell no! crack is no good man!
[05:17] <ubotu> fh: that's too long
[05:17] <tritium> Demostrike, please try this: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[05:17] <j_fletcher> bot666: well done, sherlock :)
[05:17] <Demostrike> thing is i have to restart to get into linux, in on windows atm
[05:17] <j_fletcher> ul
[05:18] <fh> !cmd PRIVMSG #ubuntu :thanks
[05:18] <bot666> thanks
[05:18] <ubotu> fh: I don't know
[05:18] <fh> !cmd PRIVMSG #ubuntu :what you don't know?
[05:18] <bot666> what you don't know?
[05:18] <ubotu> fh: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:18] <tritium> fh, what are you doing?
[05:18] <fh> nothing :)
[05:19] <Demostrike> tritium: I'm not in ubuntu atm because i need the build files to get my network card working, so what will this do?
[05:19] <tritium> Demostrike, okay.  Well, that's what you need to install.
[05:19] <tritium> Oh, you have no net access in linux?
[05:19] <Demostrike> tritium and it'll be there by default? already there, i just need to run the command?
[05:19] <Demostrike> no
[05:19] <tritium> Demostrike, that command would install the headers that you need
[05:19] <bot666> fh is a good guy
[05:19] <IIIEars> !webcam
[05:19] <ubotu> [webcam]  Support for webcams with messenger-like programs will be available in the next version of amsn (already in the CVS version) and with gaim-vv
[05:19] <chorton> Can anyone give me some pointers on getting bitlbee up and running?
[05:19] <Demostrike> yeah it doesnt have net access
[05:20] <bot666> he dosen't do anything
[05:20] <bot666> and i'm not bot!
[05:20] <Demostrike> is there a manual download i could put on cd or floppy
[05:20] <tritium> Demostrike, okay.  I don't believe that the headers are on the install CD.  You'll have to download it to a CD, as you suggest.
[05:20] <Demostrike> where can i find them
[05:20] <MikeW> Hi guys.   Please stop
[05:21] <nevin> MikeW: in genereal, not really, as its just newer software, but some stuff may be changed to run faster (optimizations and such)
[05:21] <nevin> MikeW: also, you may find better support for hw
[05:21] <tritium> Demostrike, here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/devel/
[05:22] <tritium> grab the one that matches your kernel version _exactly_
[05:22] <Demostrike> ok thanks
[05:22] <tritium> Demostrike, which kernel are you using?
 i don't know what are you talking about and he ask me agian and again if i'm smoking and i said i don't so what the hell?
[05:22] <Demostrike> ill have to check
[05:23] <tritium> fh, ubotu is a bot
[05:23] <fh> yea?
[05:23] <MikeW> nevin: hmm, I installed warty on my celeron 533 with 128 ram, and found it slow, especially launching firefox and even terminal windows. I removed the partition. Strange, because firefox on winxp was much much faster. I was wondering if horay was noticably faster than warty
[05:23] <fh> so why he ask if i smoke?
[05:23] <tritium> so don't be surprised if he keeps asking you that
[05:23] <tritium> Demostrike, okay, you can check with the command "uname -r"
[05:24] <Demostrike> tritium im running warty 4.10 the kernerl for that, 1 sec
[05:24] <tritium> Demostrike, oh, then wait.
[05:24] <MyKq3> hello
[05:24] <meta> ok, I just owned firefox with an upgrade from synaptic... "/.gtkrc-2.0:2: Unable to find include file: ".gtkrc-2.0-scrollbar_cog"
[05:24] <tritium> I gave you a URL for hoary, Demostrike
 anyway i got here a bot and i give him some commands so i can't stop
[05:24] <Demostrike> ahh ok
[05:24] <nevin> MikeW: that may just be because gnome is taking up some serious horsepower; 128MB RAM has become unfortunately not quite adequate for the big desktop managers (I know your position, I just upgraded from 128MB to 1.5GB)
[05:24] <tritium> Demostrike, have you tried hoary instead?  You may not have to build modules for your NIC.
 you know what? i will give my bot command in private
[05:25] <tritium> thanks
[05:25] <Bubbling_Zombie> MikeW, you might try xfce. It's much lighter
[05:25] <fh> np
[05:25] <Bubbling_Zombie> *want to
[05:25] <phixion> MikeW, you can't expect anything to be fast with a low end system like that
[05:25] <Demostrike> tritium well basically im trying to get my wireless card working, and following a tutorial its asking me for these files
[05:26] <Demostrike> its an acx111 or something
[05:26] <tritium> Demostrike, okay, but if I'm just suggesting you try hoary if you can.
[05:26] <MikeW> Bubbling_Zombie: is that included on the ubuntu cd? I still can't get my head around with having to download packages for my distribution and trying to find some way to make them work
[05:26] <Dakel> Has anyone here had problems getting to GOOGLE due to their firewall? In my case, only google and related sites are affected. I'm using Firestarter to manage my firewall.
[05:26] <Bubbling_Zombie> MikeW, no clue.
[05:26] <Demostrike> okay, what would it do? i mean id have to download a whole cd
[05:27] <Demostrike> whats so different?
[05:27] <MikeW> phixion: I'd be happy if it ran as fast as windows xp does on that box. The machine flies with windows
[05:27] <nevin> MikeW: xfce is a fairly small download, and gdm should present you with an easy option for using it instead of gnome
[05:27] <tritium> Demostrike, there are updates and improvements with each release.
[05:27] <phixion> celeron 533 with 128mb ram flying? :P
[05:27] <tritium> which driver are you building, Demostrike
[05:27] <tritium> ?
[05:27] <Bubbling_Zombie> phixion, if you strip it down it'll fly
[05:27] <Bubbling_Zombie> :)-
[05:27] <phixion> :D
[05:27] <Bubbling_Zombie> i know mine does.
[05:28] <bugz> I have a question about screen resolutions...
[05:28] <Demostrike> tritium http://acx100.sourceforge.net/index.html thats the homepage
[05:28] <hilacha> plz.. there are some squid jedi that can helpme?
[05:28] <hilacha> my question is: "i have "acl usuarios_full proxy_auth "/etc/squid/acl_usuarios_full" and http_access allow usuarios_full. I autenticate with a right user, but i get: ' The request GET http://housecall-p.activeupdate.trendmicro.com:80/activeupdate/server.ini is DENIED, because it matched 'usuarios_full'!!!!!!!!!!"
[05:29] <nevin> MikeW: you may want to try vector linux, its a much lighterweight distro
[05:29] <bugz> Uh, my only option for screen resolutions is 640x480...how do I get 1024x768 on there?
[05:29] <nevin> MikeW: however xfce should work fine with ubuntu on your box
[05:29] <tritium> Demostrike, I see.
[05:29] <d3vice> hi all
[05:29] <nevin> bugz: you're going to need to edit your xorg.conf file
[05:29] <bugz> Yes, I know. But, I'm not sure which part to edit, or what to change it to
[05:30] <Bubbling_Zombie> try
[05:30] <Demostrike> tritium so the hedge is a newer version?
[05:30] <Bubbling_Zombie> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:30] <tritium> bugz, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:30] <nevin> bugz: in your "screen" section, there is a list of resolutions
[05:30] <d3vice> i deleted /etc/webmin folder, now i can't uninstall webmin, anyway to force it with apt-get/dpkg ?
[05:30] <nevin> bugz: tritium's idea may be simpler for you
[05:30] <tritium> Bubbling_Zombie, :)
[05:31] <bugz> I'll try editing the xorg file, if I mess up, I can just reinstall Ubuntu, I just got it installed like 5 minutes ago
[05:31] <tritium> bugz, you should not need to reinstall
[05:31] <gyaresu> !resolution
[05:31] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:31] <nevin> bugz: use tritium's idea: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:31] <bugz> Alright
[05:31] <Bubbling_Zombie> bugz, the x-server (your xorg) is only a smart part
[05:31] <nevin> or ubotu's
[05:31] <Bubbling_Zombie> that can be fixed :x
[05:31] <gyaresu> tell bugz about resolution
[05:31] <FHs_bot> who needs help?
[05:32] <sproingie> is there a way to add gtk themes without installing gnome?
[05:32] <arnonym> bye
[05:32] <FHs_bot> bye
[05:32] <Demostrike> tritium so the hedge is a newer version?
[05:32] <FHs_bot> someone needs help?
[05:32] <tritium> Demostrike, yes, hoary is newer.
[05:33] <IIIEars> ubotu xserver is also or !xwindows
[05:33] <ubotu> IIIEars: okay
[05:33] <sproingie> hm, just discovered the kcontrol for gtk-qt, nevermind
[05:33] <Demostrike> i have the hoary live cd, i cant instal or upgrade from that can i
[05:33] <tritium> Demostrike, there is an acx_pci driver in hoary
[05:33] <tritium> It's for the acx100
[05:34] <FHs_bot> why ubuntu dosen't upgrade firefox when needed?
[05:34] <Demostrike> ahh, i need a acx 111
[05:34] <ubulinux> hello, Every once in a while, my logout menu changes from the default (that offersLock Screen, Reboot, etc.) to one that only offers Logout. Does anyone know where the Log Out menu options are controlled?
[05:34] <tritium> Demostrike, it'll work for that too
[05:34] <bugz> I'm doing the dpkg xserver thing, let's see if it can find it...
[05:34] <Demostrike> oh okay, thanks
[05:34] <meta> FHs_bot, well my firefox just got owned and now won't load at all
[05:34] <Demostrike> i guess ill download it then
[05:34] <Demostrike> thanks :) tritium
[05:34] <tritium> Demostrike, this is from "modinfo acx_pci":  description:    Driver for TI ACX1xx based wireless cards (CardBus/PCI/USB)
[05:34] <FHs_bot> :\
[05:35] <FHs_bot> sucks man
[05:35] <Demostrike> lright
[05:35] <FHs_bot> in gentoo firefox is upgraded when needed
[05:35] <tritium> less work, more fun, Demostrike :)
[05:35] <Demostrike> if i download hegdehog do i have to wipe warty or will it upgrade
[05:35] <Bubbling_Zombie> it'll upgrade
[05:36] <tritium> Demostrike, please consider Bubbling_Zombie's advice, and simply upgrade
[05:36] <Demostrike> thanks
[05:36] <Demostrike> i am upgrading
[05:36] <Demostrike> i gotta wait till it downloads -_-
[05:36] <bugz> nevin, how many KB should I set to be used by my video card?
[05:36] <fh> well ubuntu realy need to upgrade security packages once for a while
[05:36] <tritium> fh, such as?
[05:36] <nevin> bugz: in most cases, it'll be auto-detected
[05:36] <fh> firefox
[05:36] <tritium> it's already up to 1.0.6
[05:37] <Goek> i wanna mount an iso-file and for that i use 'mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/iso
[05:37] <fh> no in hoary
[05:37] <brian__> Strange lockups with Ubuntu amd64.  keyboard locks, cursor remains operational. Have to hit the front powerswitch to get maching to shutdown
[05:37] <chrissturm> ubuntu firefox has all fixes applied
[05:37] <Goek> i've made /mnt/iso
[05:37] <Goek> and i'm root
[05:37] <nevin> bugz: do you know how much you have?  if you do, eneter it anyways
[05:37] <gyaresu> Goek, yessum...
[05:37] <tritium> fh, yep in hoary
[05:37] <bugz> Oh ok, I didn't finish reading the thing >_>
[05:37] <fh> with apt-get dist-upgrade man?
[05:37] <gyaresu> Goek, and maybe -t iso9660
[05:37] <Goek> it asks for what filesystem, and i really don't know
[05:37] <Goek> ok
[05:37] <tritium> fh, you don't need dist-upgrade, just upgrade.  It was a security fix a few days ago
[05:38] <Bubbling_Zombie> mount -t iso9660 -o loop image.iso /mnt/iso <- try that Goek
[05:38] <Demostrike> is there a bittorrent link for hoary install cd
[05:38] <d3vice> i deleted /etc/webmin folder, now i can't uninstall webmin, anyway to force it with apt-get/dpkg ?
[05:38] <fh> cool i haven't noticed
[05:38] <fh> thx man
[05:38] <vader1102> see you guys this evening, time to go and make some money
[05:38] <fh> my bot is happy too
[05:38] <Bubbling_Zombie> Demostrike, do you have ubuntu installed?
[05:38] <Demostrike> yes
[05:38] <FHs_bot> i'm happy
[05:38] <Bubbling_Zombie> you might want to try updating thru synaptic/apt
[05:38] <tritium> fh, that's great, but can we keep him quiet please?
[05:38] <Demostrike> i cant i need the wireless driver
[05:39] <Bubbling_Zombie> oh, that way
[05:39] <Demostrike> which is on hoary
[05:39] <Goek> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop5,
[05:39] <Bubbling_Zombie> ah, i see :x
 yes just look when he goes
[05:39] <fh> !part #ubuntu :bye all!
[05:39] <ubotu> fh: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:39] <Demostrike> just i tried to download it and it finished after 100 mb and was corrupt...
[05:39] <tritium> fh, thank you
[05:39] <JadeRobbins> question: i am running a command from the console, and i want the results to be put into a new text file. How do i do that?
[05:39] <gyaresu> Goek, loop5? do you have other iso files mounted?
[05:40] <ValheruLord> hi all.. i found something called splashy.. it shows boot process procent. Some friends told me that i can find themes for splashy. Wher ecan i find ?
 just say when
[05:40] <Goek> i have had an other iso mounted, but i just umounted it
[05:40] <tritium> fh, it's just such a busy channel, that it's best.  I appreciate your cooperation.  :)
[05:40] <Bubbling_Zombie> Demostrike, there are bittorrent links on the download pages, alongside with the regular *.iso's
[05:40] <gyaresu> Goek, you may have run out of block devices for loop devices...
[05:40] <gyaresu> Goek, but if you only had one other...
[05:40] <JadeRobbins> can anyone help me? :(
[05:40] <Demostrike> oh yeah, thank
 as i said it's not a problem man
[05:40] <JadeRobbins> i should know how to do that, but i'm retarded
[05:41] <tritium> very cool, fh :)
[05:41] <gyaresu> JadeRobbins, depends on the command ....
[05:41] <JadeRobbins> okay, lspci
[05:41] <Bubbling_Zombie> lspci > bleh.txt
[05:41] <meta> JadeRobbins - command > file.txt
[05:41] <JadeRobbins> thank you so much guys ;)
[05:41] <gyaresu> JadeRobbins, some commands come with 'options'
[05:41] <Bubbling_Zombie> >> if you want to append
[05:41] <fh> firefox (1.0.6)  	1.0.6  	1.0.2  	0.10.1 not cool(http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu)
[05:41] <gyaresu> meta, not all commands...
[05:41] <Demostrike> And kaboom, bittorrent is off
[05:41] <Bubbling_Zombie> ^-^
[05:42] <fh> hoary with 1.0.2
[05:42] <fh> see http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[05:42] <Demostrike> yeah i noticed that, firefox was outdated lol
[05:42] <meta> gyaresu - yeah I suppose, top, and the like aren't going to play well with that, heh
[05:42] <faen> aloha everyone
[05:42] <Bubbling_Zombie> hello
[05:42] <elwood> but when i order cd can i also order a girl packed with it?
[05:42] <JadeRobbins> GIAM's irc colors are all crappy
[05:42] <gyaresu> meta, :) aye.
[05:42] <tritium> fh, you're not finding 1.0.6?
[05:42] <JadeRobbins> anyone else notice that?
[05:43] <Bubbling_Zombie> elwood, yes.
[05:43] <faen> just switched from mandriva, have to re-learn linux now
[05:43] <Bubbling_Zombie> xD
[05:43] <tritium> !info firefox
[05:43] <elwood> !info cd
[05:43] <tritium> !info mozlilla-firefox
[05:43] <Demostrike> !info mozlilla-firefox
[05:43] <sorush20> guys what is QT and how do I make sure I have it installed or not.. when I do a search on the synaptic there are lots of packages...
[05:43] <chn> where do i turn on php support in apache2
 in brezzy it's 1.0.6 in hoary 1.0.2 (http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu)
[05:43] <chn> ?????????????????
[05:43] <d3vice> how do i force a package to uninstall ?
[05:43] <elwood> sorush20, qt are libraries
[05:43] <JadeRobbins> can i do the >> with a tail command?
[05:43] <tommi^> I have /home partition made with debian unstable. Every time I boot e2fsck complains that it has newer features and can't be checked. Can I use backports to fix this problem and what package should I be looking for?
[05:44] <tritium> !info mozilla-firefox
[05:44] <JadeRobbins> or do i pipe it into an editor?
[05:44] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 8581 kB, Installed size: 24100 kB
[05:44] <Goek> darn
[05:44] <nevin> d3vice: apt-get remove package?
[05:44] <fh> 1.0.2-0ubuntu5
[05:44] <faen> just made fresh install of hoary, what firewall if any is used, and where is the security config type stuff?
[05:44] <chn> and whats up with the lame virtual host thingie
[05:44] <chn> GRrrrr
[05:44] <elwood> JadeRobbins, yes tail -f /var/log/messages | grep usb > pippo.txt
[05:44] <nevin> fh: I'm downloading 1.06 as we speak via apt
[05:44] <d3vice> nevin, yes, it exists with status 2, doesnt resolve the problem
[05:44] <Demostrike> well you can just update anyway
[05:44] <sorush20> elwood, I'm trying to install KDAR and its one of the dependencies....
[05:44] <Bubbling_Zombie> actually
 if you say
[05:44] <Bubbling_Zombie> qt is a framework
[05:44] <Bubbling_Zombie> :x
[05:45] <elwood> sorush20, with apt?
[05:45] <tritium> this is the version from hoary-security 1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1
[05:45] <tritium> fh, make sure you've enabled hoary-security
[05:45] <thoreauputic> faen: a default install of hoary doesn't need a firewall ( no services are enabled to the internet)
[05:45] <nevin> d3vice: does it gave any extra info, ther than the error number?
 ok thx i will check it out
[05:45] <elwood> sorush20, apt-get install qt
[05:46] <tritium> chn, apt-cache search apache php
[05:46] <thoreauputic> or to the network in fact...
[05:46] <Demostrike> im gonna go now, thanks for the help :)
[05:46] <jantan21> hi all
[05:46] <tritium> chn, you'll find what you need
[05:46] <d3vice> nevin, yes, it says it cant find /etc/webmin/webmin.acl
 going now, bye and thx for everything
[05:46] <tritium> fh, take care, buddy
 u2!
[05:46] <faen> thoreauputic: I see, I would like to run ssh, and a small ircd and a few other little items, what is a good selection for debian/ubuntu firewall
[05:46] <meta> well my firefox doesn't even fail with an error now, just silently
[05:46] <Petrov> hello
[05:47] <sorush20> elwood.. I get the package can't be found..
[05:47] <jantan21> fh : thx's, but my music not connec, why ?
[05:47] <Petrov> how can ik install kde?
[05:47] <chn> tritium, ive installed everything
[05:47] <nevin> d3vice: I remember having that problem... try echo > /etc/webmin/webmin.acl
[05:47] <elwood> sorush20, apt-cache search qt
[05:47] <meta> hey petrov
[05:47] <thoreauputic> faen: firestarter is a nice gui for configuring iptables
[05:47] <chn> i just dont get the lame conf files in debian
[05:47] <elwood> sorush20,  and check how is named
[05:47] <IIIEars> faen - Ubuntu uses iptables and is configured by default to pretty stealthy. see gibson research shields up! test - firestarter is a linux gui firewall that is really only necessary if you need to easily configure settings not already setup.
[05:47] <chn> could easily be simplified
[05:47] <nevin> d3vice: there may be a few files missing from the pacakage... webmin should be installed from the tgz form the webmin site on ubuntu, the package is borked
[05:47] <faen> IIIEars, thoreauputic hanks
[05:48] <jantan21> fh: can u help me
[05:48] <guizzzmo> hi
[05:48] <Petrov> how can i install kde? :p
[05:48] <elwood> sorush20, done?
[05:48] <JadeRobbins> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:48] <nevin> Petrov: sudo apt-get install kde
[05:48] <chn> i have LoadModule php5_module        /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so
[05:48] <chn> in httpd.conf
[05:49] <jantan21> thx's for u all
[05:49] <Petrov> i haven't got kde on my install cd
[05:49] <faen> IIIEars thoreauputic : I never was prompted to set up a su passwd and I am unable to su, any ideas?
[05:49] <guizzzmo> i have a problem with sk98lin, it is not working with a marvell yukon 88E8086 fast ethernet card
[05:49] <chn> and ive added the postfix extrention for .php
[05:49] <thoreauputic> !root
[05:49] <ubotu> well, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:49] <d3vice> nevin, it worked, thank you very much =)
[05:49] <chn> in apache2.conf
[05:49] <thoreauputic> faen: see ubotu's URL
[05:49] <nevin> faen: just use sudo, ubuntu doesn't use su
[05:49] <meta> is there a way of uninstalling firefox without taking ubuntu-desktop with it?
[05:49] <faen> k
[05:49] <nevin> d3vice: no problem
[05:49] <chn> and the default site index
[05:49] <JadeRobbins> faen: use sudo and by default it is your default user's password i believe
[05:49] <chn> but the bitch wont work
[05:50] <cs378> daen: sudo -s
[05:50] <faen> wow, much different than mandriva etc..
[05:50] <cs378> daen: u can set su too, ubuntuguide.org shows it all
[05:50] <faen> cs378: thanks
[05:50] <JadeRobbins> okay
[05:50] <JadeRobbins> question fellas :D
[05:51] <sorush20> guys.. I keep getting these errors when I try to install KDAR...
[05:51] <JadeRobbins> in the console how do i copy files to my usb drive? :x
[05:51] <elwood> sorush20, past me the errors
[05:51] <cs378> i just installed Ubuntu yesterday, I was reading this forum on how to install Opera. But it didnt work, so i uninstall it, the opera icon is still in the menu. how do i delete that icon?
[05:52] <guizzzmo> any idea?
[05:52] <DekaPink> Where are the includes in Ubuntu? ^^
[05:52] <meta> JadeRobbins - cp is the command so if you were in your home directory it would be "cp resume.doc /media/usbdisk/"
[05:52] <thoreauputic> !smeg
[05:52] <ubotu> smeg is probably a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[05:52] <JadeRobbins> ahhh
[05:52] <chn> aha
[05:52] <JadeRobbins> auto mounted i see L:D
[05:52] <chn> debian fucks up with php5
[05:53] <thoreauputic> cs378: ues smeg as above
[05:53] <DekaPink> As they aren't where a script I'm trying to run thinks they should be (linuxincludes=/usr/src/linux/include) Is it something I need to install?
[05:53] <thoreauputic> *use
[05:53] <bugz> If I edit the xorg.conf file, I need to reboot for changes to take effect, right?
[05:53] <meta> JadeRobbins - well it should be automounted :P, if not there are a few more things to do, you probably have an icon on your desktop or in "places" too
[05:53] <thoreauputic> bugz: no, just restart the X server
[05:54] <bugz> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> bugz: ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:54] <samuelk> i need help installing a boot splash...
[05:54] <thoreauputic> yep
[05:54] <bugz> k
[05:54] <bugz> Also, I need to know how to install software on Ubuntu...
[05:54] <thoreauputic> !synaptic
[05:54] <ubotu> [synaptic]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[05:54] <bugz> I downloaded an RPM, and I have no idea how to install it
[05:54] <guizzzmo> anybody is using sk98lin module?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> bugz: synaptic as above
[05:55] <thoreauputic> bugz: Ubuntu uses .deb , not rpm
[05:55] <toad3030> hello, i'm new to linux, and i was wondering how to set up my sound?
[05:55] <samuelk> you can install rpm..
[05:55] <bugz> oh...
[05:55] <bugz> If I get an RPM, I can still use it can't I
[05:55] <thoreauputic> samuelk: yes but lets keep it simple :)
[05:56] <IIIEars> bugz - in a pinch alien will manage
[05:56] <samuelk> yes you can
[05:56] <mjr> bugz, you can try alien on it, but prefer debs
[05:56] <Rockett17> if you use alien to convert it
[05:56] <windex> bugz: "sometimes".
[05:56] <IIIEars> man alien
[05:56] <bugz> ..Alright, how would I get into Alien then
[05:56] <cs378> the menu thing, whoever replied me, how do i do it? (sry got logged off, didnt see)
[05:56] <thoreauputic> bugz: what are you wanting to install ?
[05:56] <bugz> LimeWire
[05:56] <thoreauputic> ah
[05:57] <cs378> and what the Ctrl+Alt_Backspace do?
[05:57] <samuelk> restart X
[05:57] <meta> samuelk - "sudo cp mysplash.png /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png"
[05:57] <faen> should firestarter be on the add/remove programs listing ?
[05:57] <samuelk> thx meta
[05:57] <faen> err aynaptic pckg manager?
[05:57] <dr_willis> ctrl-alt-NUMPAD_Backspace kills X off :P
[05:57] <cs378> ohh
[05:58] <dr_willis> isent it?  oh wait.. im tininkg of the + and -
[05:58] <dr_willis> :P
[05:58] <dr_willis> since there is no numpad backspace..
[05:58] <elsha> http://prodtn.cafepress.com/5/14580695_F_tn.jpg heh, oh dear
[05:58] <thoreauputic> faen: you need the universe repository
[05:58] <cs378> thats why i got logged off lol
[05:58] <thoreauputic> !repos
[05:58] <ubotu> well, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:58] <thoreauputic> faen: ^^^
[05:58] <ernstp> anyone found mkfontdir in breezy?
[05:59] <bugz> Wait
[05:59] <bugz> In that synaptic thing, it says "select Computer>System Configuration>Synaptic Package Manager"
[05:59] <bugz> ...Where's Computer at
[06:00] <dr_willis> bugz,  i normally just open a shell and type 'synaptic'
[06:00] <bugz> ?
[06:00] <dr_willis> ??
[06:00] <bugz> I forgot to mention, I know nothing about Ubuntu
[06:00] <toad3030> would anybody mind helping me set up my video card drivers????
[06:00] <bugz> or Linux in general
[06:01] <elwood> toad3030,  tell my your card
[06:01] <dr_willis> the menu item in question is under  System/Administration/
[06:01] <dan_> hi everybody)) I did it! Bye bye microsoft!! =)
[06:01] <toad3030> i have a nvidia fx 5600
[06:01] <meta> bugz - the menus up the top left, applications/places/system.... it's the system one, then go admin => synaptic
[06:01] <elwood> toad3030, and go to nvidia.com and download driver
[06:02] <elwood> toad3030, sell me your old card so!!!
[06:02] <toad3030> haha, i didn't know they made drivers for linux, sorry, i'm a noob and linux, just got it yesterday
[06:02] <Kazrak> Howdy.
[06:02] <toad3030> this is my old card elwood lol
[06:02] <Belutz> tritium: hai sir :)
[06:03] <elwood> toad3030, your are lucky
[06:03] <Kazrak> Is this an appropriate place to report a problem downloading Kubuntu?
[06:03] <toad3030> what linux drive should i use?
[06:04] <toad3030> the IA32?
[06:04] <Kazrak> kubuntu-5.04-dvd-powerpc.iso
[06:04] <|rockinnerd|> how does one make arts start at startup?
[06:04] <Goek> Kazrak it's a fine place
[06:04] <|rockinnerd|> even when one runs gnome?
[06:04] <cs378> how do i remove a icon in the menu? help plzzz
[06:04] <guizzzmo> this is not workin at all, i have to move to centos
[06:04] <elwood> toad3030, depends on your system
[06:04] <guizzzmo> bye
[06:05] <Kazrak> The torrent download for kubuntu-5.04-dvd-powerpc.iso seems to stop after 72.1% complete for everyone I see on the peer list (including me).
[06:05] <Goek> Kazrak,  but u could try #kubuntu
[06:05] <toad3030> just a amd athlon 2800
[06:05] <Kazrak> It looks like there is no server with 100% available.
[06:05] <bugz> Where is the "Computer menu"...
[06:05] <|rockinnerd|> bugz, rt-click panel,a dd to panel,
[06:05] <|rockinnerd|> one of the menus
[06:06] <Riddell> Kazrak: I know and I've tried poking the sysadmin
[06:06] <elwood> toad3030, https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards?highlight=%28nvidia-glx%29
[06:06] <Riddell> Kazrak: could you report it on the ubuntu-devel mailing list?
[06:06] <Kazrak> More accurately, it looks like there was at some point, some downloader got 72.1% and then the completed server went offline and everyone else connecting now can only get the 72.1%.
[06:06] <bugz> My menus are Applications, Places and System
[06:06] <meta> kazrak - the last 30% is missing cause you aren't using the kittorrent, srry bad joke
[06:06] <Kazrak> Is the ubuntu-devel mailing list open or closed?
[06:06] <meta> bugs - yeah it's under system
[06:06] <Riddell> Kazrak: open
[06:07] <thoreauputic> bugz: ah - the howto is out of date - look in system
[06:07] <|rockinnerd|> Kazrak, yes its open
[06:07] <toad3030> thank you elwood
[06:07] <elwood> toad3030, nop i have an nvidia too
[06:07] <Kazrak> OK.  I'll post to it and request CC.  Thanks.
[06:07] <bugz> No it's not >_>
[06:07] <bugz> Not under system
[06:07] <|rockinnerd|> how does one make artsd start at startup?
[06:07] <meta> Kazrak - sorry one more... are you are KDE enthusiast who used to be called azrak?
[06:08] <toad3030> doesn't look like theres a 5600 though
[06:08] <thoreauputic> bugz: System/Administration/  I think for synaptic
[06:08] <|rockinnerd|> is it possible?
[06:09] <Riddell> Kazrak: thanks
[06:10] <nariman> hello everybody
[06:10] <nariman> i need help
[06:10] <samuelk> any one know any good programing program for linux?
[06:10] <Kazrak> I'm a KDE enthusiast, but I never went by "azrak".  :)
[06:10] <toad3030> think i got it elwood, thx again :)
[06:10] <auk> bugz: the menu bar-thingy used to be applications, computer. computer sort of got split into places and sysytem
[06:11] <nariman> is there a program that alows me to run winows in a window
[06:11] <elwood> toad3030, no problems...remember me when you  will change your card :)
[06:11] <dr_willis> samuelk,  thats a little vague
[06:11] <toad3030> hehe
[06:11] <toad3030> anybody use cedega??
[06:11] <auk> and before that it had an "Actions" menu in there...
[06:11] <dr_willis> toad3030,  yes I do. :P
[06:11] <thoreauputic> samuelk: anjuta is an IDE if that's what you want
[06:11] <nariman> is there a program that alows me to run winows in a window????
[06:11] <toad3030> is it pretty easy to install?
[06:12] <toad3030> i'm new to linux, just got it yesterday
[06:12] <dr_willis> nariman,  what do you want to 'run' exactly?
[06:12] <nariman> a game (gta2)
[06:12] <bugz> Alright, now can someone tell me how to install an RPM?
[06:12] <dr_willis> nariman,   then you want to look at 'cedega'
[06:12] <bugz> Er, I don't understand the alien thing
[06:12] <samuelk> looks good :D
[06:12] <bugz> either
[06:12] <auk> bugz: alien <blah_blah.rpm>
[06:12] <nariman> whats that? im a linux newbie
[06:12] <dr_willis> nariman,  and its not free. :P and it can run GTA2, but ive had issues with it.
[06:13] <nariman> :(
[06:13] <auk> dpkg -i <blah_blah.deb>
[06:13] <nariman> but, isn there a program that can run winows under linux?
[06:13] <toad3030> cedega is only $5/month right?
[06:13] <dr_willis> http://www.transgaming.com/  - home of cedega - used to be called wines
[06:13] <dr_willis> nariman,  running the whole windows OPERATING system - you can try vmware (not free) and a few other tools.. but doing that for ONE game - is overkill.
[06:14] <samuelk> can you run games like warcraft 3 roc and counterstrike with the old wine?
[06:14] <dr_willis> WIneX became Cedega
[06:14] <auk> nariman: there are several
[06:14] <auk> !vwware
[06:14] <ubotu> auk: I haven't a clue
[06:14] <nariman> hm.. maybe
[06:14] <auk> !vmware
[06:14] <ubotu> I don't know, auk
[06:14] <auk> uuggh
[06:14] <dr_willis> samuelk,  Ive heard that some can run with the normal wine.
[06:14] <bugz> auk: Were you talking to me with the dpkg thing?
[06:14] <bugz> wait
[06:14] <auk> bugz: yes
[06:14] <bugz> nevermind
[06:14] <auk> !wine
[06:14] <ubotu> auk: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:14] <auk> !info wine
[06:14] <nariman> isn't there anyway to get it for free :)
[06:14] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[06:14] <jantan21> hi...can u help me ?
[06:14] <samuelk> i think i got warcraft 3 working
[06:14] <samuelk> but i dont remember how :D
[06:14] <jantan21> hi all...can u help me ?
[06:15] <bugz> So, I need to do alien path_to_rpm?
[06:15] <auk> jantan21: don't ask to ask, just ask
[06:15] <auk> bugz: yes
[06:15] <bugz> Alright
[06:15] <nariman> ubotu, whats wine?
[06:15] <ubotu> nariman: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:15] <bugz> And that will turn it into a .deb?
[06:15] <nariman> ubotu, what is larger?
[06:15] <ubotu> nariman: what are you talking about?
[06:15] <auk> or you can just do alien -i and skip dpgk, but i don't think it's as goo
[06:15] <auk> d
[06:15] <bugz> Alright.
[06:15] <nariman> haha
[06:16] <jantan21> ok
[06:16] <nariman> ubotu, does the windows emulator take much cpu in idle?
[06:16] <ubotu> nariman: Are you smoking crack?
[06:16] <thoreauputic> nariman: please don't abuse the bot
[06:16] <nariman> sorry, just a bit confused
[06:16] <auk> ubot, what's package wine
[06:16] <auk> uboto, what's package wine
[06:16] <jantan21> how share windows for linux printer
[06:16] <dr_willis> ubotu - is an infomation bot. and only understands a few commands.
[06:16] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, dr_willis
[06:17] <dr_willis> lol
[06:17] <auk> stupid bot
[06:17] <nariman> haha
[06:17] <auk> he doesn't even know ubotu, what's <blah> ?
[06:17] <nariman> ok, anyone. where can i find an windows emulator??
[06:17] <auk> narimanL try wine
[06:17] <dr_willis> jantan21,  you mean let windows access a printer on a linux box?
[06:18] <faen> ok guys what about win32 codecs for wmv, mp3, mpg, avi and all that what pckg am I looking for?
[06:18] <dr_willis> nariman,  depends on waht you want do, your choises are "wine" "Cedega" "vmware" or a few others.
[06:18] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[06:18] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:18] <bugz> Uh, auk, it tells me I have to run as root to convert to deb format
[06:18] <nariman> ok, i wnat to run gta2
[06:18] <nariman> ,and cedega is free
[06:18] <auk> bugz: 'sudo alien <blah_blah.rpm>
[06:18] <auk> * "
[06:18] <auk> * " = '
[06:18] <bugz> I tried...it didn't do anything after that
[06:18] <dr_willis> cedega is not free. the CVS version is free.. but I dont think it will play all the games.
[06:19] <bugz> Didn't give me a message or anything
[06:19] <auk> bugz: add sudo to the beginning
[06:19] <auk> !sudo
[06:19] <ubotu> I heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[06:19] <bugz> I did
[06:19] <thoreauputic> nariman: cedega is decidedly unfree
[06:19] <bugz> What should it do if it works?
[06:19] <auk> bugz: did it just return to a new line?
[06:19] <bugz> yes, with nothing onit
[06:19] <bugz> *on it
[06:19] <auk> well that's good
[06:19] <nariman> forgot to put "not"
[06:19] <auk> it worked
[06:19] <bugz> Oh
[06:20] <bugz> Where did it go then o-o
[06:20] <nariman> is wine ok then?
[06:20] <jantan21> dr_willis : how share printer windows to linux
[06:20] <auk> bugz: in that same dir, there shoudl be a fiel with the same name except for the extension
[06:20] <auk> *file
[06:20] <tom__> hi
[06:21] <bugz> ..no, the RPM was on my desktop...and it's still the only thing there
[06:21] <faen> can anyone point me in the proper direction to play all forms of media like using xine like .wmv, .avi, .mpg etc?
[06:21] <deprave> good morning!
[06:21] <faen> basically the win codecs
[06:21] <tom__> me to
[06:21] <tom__> were u get them
[06:21] <thoreauputic> faen: read the restricted formats URL below
[06:21] <dr_willis> jantan21,  You should be able to add a new printer with the linux tools In the menu. and tell it the server/name of the printer.
[06:21] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[06:21] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:21] <faen> k
[06:22] <dr_willis> jantan21,  System/admin/Printing
[06:22] <toad3030> how do you get you cd player to work?
[06:23] <Goek> how long time does it take to rip a dvd? with drip? 2ghz, 512mbram? 60minutemovie
[06:23] <DekaPink> Yay, I did it... My video card is giving me 3D support now. xD
[06:23] <Goek> approx.?
[06:24] <bugz> It worked now...
[06:25] <bugz> Alright, it made a .deb file, what now?
[06:25] <bugz> to install it
[06:25] <elwood> bugz, dpkg -i
[06:25] <thoreauputic> bugz: prepend sudo to that as well
[06:26] <thoreauputic> sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>
[06:28] <bugz> Alright, i did that
[06:28] <bugz> ...what now?
[06:28] <Bubbling_Zombie> now it's installed xD
[06:29] <thoreauputic> umm.. doesn't limewire requirw java?
[06:29] <bugz> Yeah, I know
[06:29] <thoreauputic> *require
[06:29] <Determinist> hm , anyone here that tried installing ATI drivers for a radeon 9600 pro?
[06:29] <tommi^> Hi. Where can I get maildir2mbox? Thanks
[06:29] <thoreauputic> !java
[06:29] <ubotu> java is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[06:30] <Seveas> Mez|AWAY, ping...
[06:30] <bugz> I know it's installed, but how do I get to the executable for it...
[06:30] <thoreauputic> bugz: won't work without java, methinks
[06:30] <bugz> Damn, another thing to install now..
[06:31] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  want to see something hillarious?
[06:31] <thoreauputic> bugz: these things are all patent encumbered and can't legally be included in Ubuntu
[06:31] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: sure
[06:31] <xxenon> I installed g++3-4 , what shall I do to get a link from "g++" to "g++-3.4" ?
[06:31] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  check www.gotfuck.com (safe for work)
[06:31] <thoreauputic> uh huh
[06:31] <dr_willis> Determinist,  my ati9700pro worked fine
[06:32] <bugz> ...
[06:32] <Determinist> dr_willis, ok , how did you install and what did you install?
[06:32] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  i'm slashdotting that XD
[06:32] <elwood> dr_willis,  do you buy that card?
[06:33] <Seveas> xxenon, update-alternatives --config g++
[06:33] <bugz> Well, can someone help me with my screen resolution problem then?
[06:33] <dr_willis> Determinist,  i.... followed the 3 commands at the ubuntu  binary driver howto/wiki   took all of.. 3 min perhaps.
[06:33] <xxenon> Seveas - thx.
[06:33] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, lol :)
[06:33] <Seveas> nice page :)
[06:33] <dr_willis> elwood,  I bought it some time ago.. yes.
[06:33] <Determinist> dr_willis, is that on the ubuntuforums? sorry for the questions, so far been trying to install from the official ATI site
[06:33] <elwood> dr_willis, can you sell me your old one?
[06:33] <xxenon> Seveas - No alternatives for g++
[06:34] <bugz> Alright, how do I edit xorg.conf to make it so I can use 1024x768?
[06:34] <xxenon> (only g++-3.4 is installed)
[06:34] <dr_willis> Determinist,  in NO way - did i use the info at the ati site.. i followed the "binarydriver" wiki/howto.
[06:34] <dr_willis> elwood,  since its in USE right now.. No.
[06:34] <bugz> Anyone?
[06:34] <Determinist> dr_willis, erm , ok , thanks mate. would you mind posting a url for some info tho?
[06:35] <Brian_Boruma> hi everyone
[06:35] <elwood> dr_willis, ok thanks :)
[06:35] <Brian_Boruma> its brian from ysterday
[06:35] <Brian_Boruma> and the day before
[06:35] <dr_willis> Determinist,  :)  gesh man.. :P https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?highlight=%28binary%29
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  what country you in?
[06:35] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, NL
[06:35] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: just redirects to yahoo.com here
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  I need to confirm from 3 countries that that hits yahoo
[06:35] <Brian_Boruma> i really like this ubuntu
[06:35] <Seveas> thoreauputic, that's the trick :)
[06:35] <the--dud> I'd appreciate if people tried following this HOWTO http://nix-dev.dudcore.net/HOWTO/InstallingLincityng
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> I got canada, US, and NL?
[06:35] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, confirmed
[06:35] <Brian_Boruma> the more i use it the more i like it
[06:36] <the--dud> tell me if its good/bad or how it works for you
[06:36] <jantan21> dr_willis jantan21,  System/admin/Printing <<< i can't
[06:36] <Brian_Boruma> im am learning new things it seems every minute
[06:36] <bluefoxicy> ok :)
[06:36] <jantan21> Printing: Network host '<IP_ADDRESS>' is busy; will retry in 30 seconds... <<<warning
[06:36] <thoreauputic> Seveas: hrm - OK I don't really see the humour but whatever...
[06:36] <dr_willis> jantan21, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP?highlight=%28printing%29
[06:37] <xxenon> Seveas ?
[06:37] <dr_willis> perhaps. :P i now make windoiws use the printers shared on the linux box.
[06:38] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  'sex' is the #1 search term eveer
[06:38] <drbombay43> yellow to all, is there anyone out there using a powerbook
[06:39] <witless> hi - i'm setting up 5.04 on my system, but the networking is *incredibly* slow.  20, 30 secs to show a web page or load an imap store...  anyone aware of a problem like this?  i have debian-sid installed on the same box and i have no such problems...
[06:39] <Hawkeye> witless: disable ipv6 networking
[06:39] <witless> Hawkeye: thanks, how?
[06:39] <Hawkeye> your ISP probably doesn't have an ipv6 enabled DNS server, so your applications will first have to timeout on the ipv6 dns request
[06:40] <Hawkeye> through /etc/modules.conf
[06:40] <witless> Hawkeye: actually i set up my own caching dns server - would an option be to enable ipv6 networking on that box?
[06:40] <bugz> Can anyone tell me how to edit xorg.conf so I can be able to use 1024x768 resolution?
[06:40] <hondje> !tell bugz about resolution
[06:41] <Seveas> bugz, copy an existing line with a resolutionn and edit the new one to say 1024x768
[06:41] <virtuel> Seveas, I've tried that for a different resolution (1400x1050), but it still doesn't show up
[06:41] <Determinist> ummm , how come i dont have /proc/pci?
[06:41] <Hawkeye> witless: perhaps, as long as the caching dns server forwards the request as ipv4 to your isp's dns server(s)
[06:41] <Hawkeye> put alias net-pf-10 off and alias ipv6 off in /etc/modules.conf
[06:42] <dr_willis> BACKUP your existing xorg.conf file befor ya mess with it. :P
[06:42] <Seveas> virtuel, you need to restart X for the line to show up
[06:42] <Hawkeye> virtuel: is that on a centrino laptop ? You'll have to run a hack to let the bios enable the 1400x1050 modeline
[06:43] <Brian_Boruma> how do i install a .run file
[06:43] <Brian_Boruma> i downloaded privateer
[06:43] <echelon> bb.
[06:43] <dr_willis> sh whatever.run
[06:43] <virtuel> Seveas, have restarted X, doesn't help
[06:43] <Brian_Boruma> from root term?
[06:44] <virtuel> Hawkeye, nope, this is on a desktop computer, athlon xp and an Eizo F520 display
[06:44] <virtuel> Hawkeye, I'm already running the same resolution in Win2k
[06:46] <Brian_Boruma> ok the sh comman + the file .run doesnt work
[06:47] <Hawkeye> chmod 744 myfile.run
[06:47] <Hawkeye> ./myfile.run
[06:47] <Belutz> !wifi
[06:47] <ubotu> wifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:48] <IIIEars> !ndis
[06:48] <ubotu> IIIEars: I don't know
[06:48] <Guest29> Hi, I really need some help folks
[06:48] <IIIEars> !ndiswrapper
[06:48] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:48] <NekoNeko> hey all
[06:48] <Guest29> I have burned the Ubuntu disc twice
[06:48] <Guest29> And each time I try and install... half way thru the base system I get...
[06:48] <Brian_Boruma> why?
[06:48] <Guest29> No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources
[06:49] <Guest29> The current default kernel package is 'kernel-image'
[06:49] <dr_willis> because they tend to be comercial junk :P and rarely seem to work well.
[06:49] <Guest29> What is wrong with it?
[06:49] <NekoNeko> 2 questions for the channel and I missed the answers in the faq I apologize  1)  How do I get java on mozilla? the forum stuff isn't working 2) whats the average turn around time from a new version of a program being made to it being on the package list?
[06:49] <thoreauputic> Guest29: check the md5sum of your iso and burned CD
[06:49] <Guest29> thoreauputic I burned this thing twice
[06:49] <Guest29> with 2 different programs
[06:49] <thoreauputic> Guest29: sounds like a bad download or burn
[06:49] <Guest29> on 2 different OS's
[06:49] <Guest29> and DOWNLOADED twice as well
[06:50] <Hawkeye> NekoNeko: 2) 6 months
[06:50] <virtuel> Guest29, does http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3444 help you?
[06:50] <Seveas> Guest29, check the md5sum of the iso and the burnt cd
[06:50] <thoreauputic> Guest29: *cough* md5sum *cough*
[06:50] <Guest29> I do not think this is a bad CD
[06:50] <Seveas> Guest29, and 'kernel-image' does not exist in Ubuntu
[06:50] <IIIEars> thoreauputic, - always diplomatic. :)
[06:50] <Guest29> Not when it is downloaded twice, burned twice, using 2 different programs and 2 different OS's
[06:50] <auk> hmm, i would like to know what the average package turn around is too :)
[06:50] <NekoNeko> Hawkeye any way to manually add the packages to the list then?
[06:51] <Seveas> Guest29, so you must have done something *really weird*
[06:51] <Guest29> Seveas thats the error I get
[06:51] <auk> Hawkeye: lol
[06:51] <thoreauputic> Guest29: have you read the advice several people have given yoU?
[06:51] <Guest29> I am looking at the link
[06:51] <IIIEars> Guext, - X86 machine yes?
[06:51] <Guest29> Yeah
[06:51] <Guest29> No raid
[06:51] <Hawkeye> NekoNeko: through third party repositories, but that's generally a pain in the ass. Ubuntu isn't designed to be on the bleeding edge for all packages throughout a certain release's lifetime
[06:51] <Brian_Boruma> i wan to run privateer linux but it is a .run
[06:51] <Brian_Boruma> i am puzzled
[06:52] <Guest29> 15.5 gig EXT3 partition, with 1gig swap
[06:52] <Brian_Boruma> i tried googling
[06:52] <Hawkeye> if you want a new firefox, gaim or whatever the day after it is released upstream, you shouldn't be running ubuntu, period
[06:52] <NekoNeko> bah that sucks
[06:52] <Brian_Boruma> im not being lazy
[06:52] <NekoNeko> going to have to find a different distro then
[06:52] <Hawkeye> debian sid, rawhide or gentoo will be something for you then
[06:52] <Brian_Boruma> privateer is wing commander game
[06:52] <auk> NekoNeko: ubutu updates packages for security etc, but it doesn' tjust take them fform upstream, they are ubuntu builds
[06:53] <Guest29> OK....
[06:53] <Hawkeye> Brian_Boruma: chmod it to 744, and then run it in a console "./myfile.run"
[06:53] <Guest29> The forum is saying this is a known bug
[06:53] <hondje> can someone run 'apt-cache show bmp-skins | grep Section' and let me know what it says?
[06:53] <Guest29> So is there a solution to this bug?
[06:53] <toad3030> what file for cedega is best for ubuntu???
[06:53] <NekoNeko> hawkeye gentoo isn't worth running anymore, been using it for 2 years and for the past 4 months nothing but problems
[06:53] <IIIEars> believe auk. - that is often a very good thing that ubuntu devs give them the once over
[06:53] <jantan21> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf <<<why ?
[06:53] <Hawkeye> that's generally what happens when you run on the bleeding edge. That's why some people prefer a stable system that stays the same and is supported for 1.5 years like ubuntu
[06:54] <Guest29> So far I am not too impressed with this distro
[06:54] <jantan21> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf <<<why not acces ?
[06:54] <Guest29> The fucker is buggy
[06:54] <Brian_Boruma> can i ask what chmod it to 744 means?
[06:54] <djp> why do people find the necessity to chase version numbers? surely a stable os is the name of the game? anyway, if you really feel the need to have the 'latest' version of everything, just download the source and compile yourself...
[06:54] <Brian_Boruma> lol
[06:54] <NekoNeko> yeah but I can't exactlly play games with other people of I havn't patched for 1.5 years ;)
[06:54] <auk> IIIEars: yes, bu ti think they shoudl add in more than just security updates, i like new features as well
[06:54] <Hawkeye> Guest29: don't blame your crappy southbridge/cdrom combo on ubuntu
[06:54] <Guest29> My what!?
[06:55] <Hawkeye> it's clearly a problem with the driver of your southbridge and or cdrom drive, most likely DMA related
[06:55] <Guest29> My CD-rom setup is not unusual
[06:55] <Brian_Boruma> what is it meaning?
[06:55] <Brian_Boruma> chmod it to 744?
[06:55] <Guest29> Look... I CAN install ANY other OS except for Ubuntu
[06:55] <Hawkeye> I'd suggest setting the cdrom as the master on the secondary IDE channel, and not attaching anything else on it
[06:55] <Hawkeye> Brian_Boruma: man chmod
[06:55] <IIIEars> auk - 2 releases a year. - two weeks ago a buggy firefox release was fixed in a few days. Quick!
[06:55] <NekoNeko> guest feel free to then
[06:55] <Guest29> I am on crummy LINDOWS right now trying to speak to you and get answers
[06:55] <hondje> Then file a bug report
[06:56] <Guest29> Hawkeye, why!?
[06:56] <auk> Brian_Boruma: chmod cahnges permissions, i am not sure exactly what 744 does
[06:56] <Guest29> This should not be an issue
[06:56] <Hawkeye> the 7 means you'll give Read Write and eXecute access to the binary for the owner of the file. (4 is read, 2 is write and 1 is execute, add them together: 7)
[06:56] <djp> Guest29: i had the same problem as you, although in reverse. i just stuck with the distro that best works for me. that happened to be Ubuntu.
[06:56] <dr_willis> sounds like the iso file may be bad.
[06:56] <jantan21> bash: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf: Permission denied <<<can u help me
[06:56] <auk> IIIEars: yes, i was VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY upset about the firefox bug
[06:57] <Landy> jantan21, are you root?
[06:57] <auk> but i do liek how quickly they fixed it--but that was also from upstream, was it not?
[06:57] <auk> the ubuntu devs didn't fix it
[06:57] <NekoNeko> at least on the good side for ubuntu, my mom who has never touched linux before was able to install it without my help ^^
[06:57] <Hawkeye> Guest29: in general, installers are very picky about cdrom drives. For example, I've seen installations fail, simply because the proper ordering of devices on the IDE cable hadn't been maintained (master on the outmost connector, slave on the middle one)
[06:57] <auk> NekoNeko: wow!
[06:58] <NekoNeko> auk, considering how little she knows and can't even install windows without help, I almost died from shock
[06:58] <dr_willis> "My Mom is l33ter then Your Mom!"
[06:58] <djp> NekoNeko: such an easy distro to install. so quick as well. but again, hardware issues are different for each individual
[06:58] <Landy> Ubuntu is very cool, easily the best desktop distro I have used
[06:58] <NekoNeko> yeah only issue is it didn't detect the wifi cards
[06:58] <djp> same here Landy
[06:58] <NekoNeko> but I've always had problems with any distro and wifi
[06:59] <jantan21> yes
[06:59] <faen> I have to say that ubuntu is sort of a tough transition from mandrake/mandriva
[06:59] <dr_willis> Wifi is the next incarnation of the WinModem Fiasco of the past. :(
[06:59] <jantan21> landy : yes
[06:59] <Landy> only issue I have is that it crashed today whilst installing epiphany, a quick reboot and a dpkg --configure -a sorted that though
[06:59] <jantan21> landy : yes, i am root
[06:59] <NekoNeko> faen, please don't compare anything to mandrake
[06:59] <hondje> It'd be easier if people would stop buying hardware that isn't supported
[06:59] <NekoNeko> only redhat is that bad
[07:00] <Landy> jantan21,  and its ubuntu yes?
[07:00] <Hawkeye> dr_willis: nah, most cards are much better supported these days than winmodems ever were or will be
[07:00] <NekoNeko> hondje the problem is how can you TELL (average USER here) what hardware is supported?
[07:00] <dr_willis> I dont even have a modem any more :P
[07:00] <faen> NekoNeko: I have used mandrake for quite some time and I guess I am just use to the look/feel of it
[07:00] <IIIEars> hondje - what wifi card is best for ubuntu?
[07:00] <NekoNeko> my users don't want to look up drivers for their stuff
[07:00] <NekoNeko> hence why they make me do it ._.
[07:00] <jantan21> landy : yes, it's ubuntu why ?
[07:00] <Mez|AWAY> someone wanted me ?
[07:00] <hondje> I know the problem won't go away, but it'd be easier
[07:00] <NekoNeko> faen, I tried mandrake and it did nothing but crash, redhat the same, fedora is a bit more stable
[07:00] <Landy> jantan21, because if I told you to do service cups restart it won't work
[07:01] <hondje> IIIEars: I've neverh ad problem with intel and cisco cards
[07:01] <faen> after a fresh install of Ubuntu I felt sort of naked and not in control of my box, with mandrake I feel like I have everything under control right out of the gate
[07:01] <NekoNeko> you can always get orinco cards
[07:01] <faen> however, i'm only 2 hours into ubuntu
[07:01] <IIIEars> hondje - thanks. :)
[07:01] <NekoNeko> the universal wifi cards
[07:01] <phixion> NekoNeko, you can't really compare like that :P I had no problem running either of them
[07:01] <faen> so i'll give it a bit of time
[07:01] <NekoNeko> compatible with anything :D
[07:01] <Landy> my distro life cycle went from, Slackware->SuSE->Mandrake->Fedora Core->Debian->Ubuntu
[07:01] <hondje> I'm way biased though
[07:02] <jantan21> where it's service cups restar
[07:02] <Hawkeye> IIIEars: cards with realtek chips (cheap dlink wireless cards) work to some extent too
[07:02] <hondje> I havent' used windows in 5+ years, so all my hardware is compatable
[07:02] <NekoNeko> phixion I tried it on 3 of my machines, I watched a classroom of 28 students try redhat and mandrake with a failure rate of about 80%
[07:02] <IIIEars> Nice to know :)
[07:02] <thoreauputic> faen: I came to Ubuntu via Mandrake, Knoppix and Debian - once you "get" it you won't feel that way any more
[07:02] <jantan21> and how service cups restar
[07:02] <NekoNeko> I eventually handed the teacher a knoppix cd so he could teach his class
[07:02] <Landy> jantan21, service cups restart is a command to restart the cups service, its red hat based though so don't waste your time. Ok, question 1, what are you trying to do
[07:02] <toad3030> can anybody tell me what cedega file is best for ubuntu pls???
[07:02] <agentm_> Hi- I am running hoary and I ran apt-get update but I can't install specific packages like libsdl-ttf1.2. Am I forgetting something?
[07:02] <hondje> toad3030: the debian one works fine
[07:02] <windex> NekoNeko: to be fair, most fresh college students prolly can't handle installing windows. :)
[07:03] <toad3030> thank you
[07:03] <dbernar1> hi
[07:03] <Landy> agentm_, so an apt-cache search <package name>
[07:03] <NekoNeko> windex, they were doing it right I was talking with the teach while he was doing class, about 10 machines just plain crashed on install
[07:03] <dr_willis> sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[07:03] <faen> thoreauputic: it would be nice got get a grasp on things as I need to get my servers up & running again shortly
[07:03] <jantan21> i don't command for service cups restar
[07:03] <faen> got = to
[07:03] <NekoNeko> actually kind of funny to see would be linux users cry after their 2 hours install dies >_>
[07:04] <Randall64> I swear my 2005fpw was evading my input selection.
[07:04] <Landy> dr_willis, don't give it all away just yet ;)
[07:04] <agentm_> Landy: no hits though the apt search on the ubuntu website says that it is available
[07:04] <windex> NekoNeko: ahh. make them use ubuntu then. it installed on my duron box with no questions except locale stuff and enter a username to log in with.
[07:04] <windex> NekoNeko: :)
[07:04] <IIIEars> < RH 5.0, RH 7.2, Slack, Fedora, Knoppix, then ubuntu. - only ubuntu has lasted for any length of time.
[07:04] <thoreauputic> faen: I suggest " sudo apt-get apt-howto" unless you are familiar with apt already
[07:04] <jantan21> * Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                         [ ok ]  <<<
[07:04] <NekoNeko> <3 my durons
[07:04] <dr_willis> cut and pasted straight from the Printing Howto/Wikis :P
[07:04] <hondje> College students are stupid :)
[07:04] <NekoNeko> great servers :D
[07:04] <thoreauputic> faen: oops sudo apt-get install
[07:04] <Landy> oh yeah, forgot about Knoppix, that was first
[07:04] <NekoNeko> I use knoppix std
[07:05] <faen> thoreauputic: i used apt every-so-often with mandrake 10.01 & greater
[07:05] <jantan21> what next
[07:05] <thoreauputic> faen: OK :)
[07:05] <windex> NekoNeko: the box i have running ubuntu, used an old 20gb disk from another box, but otherwise cost $220. it's a 1.6ghz duron with 512mb of ram. :P
[07:05] <agentm_> Landy: most other packages install fine...any ideas?
[07:05] <Landy> jantan21, what are you trying to do?
[07:05] <faen> I went back to urpmi tho
[07:05] <faen> just out of habit
[07:05] <faen> I guess
[07:05] <NekoNeko> lets see... redhat -> mandrake -> redhat -> debian -> suse -> openbsd -> gentoo -> freebsd -> knoppix std -> gentoo
[07:05] <thoreauputic> faen: IMO dpkg and apt are the keys to Ubuntu/Debian
[07:05] <NekoNeko> my linux cycle ^^
[07:06] <Landy> agentm_, the only thing I can think is that the package you want is in another set of packages. Maybe you need more sources in your apt repositories, not sure
[07:06] <IIIEars> windex - had to laugh when UT99 played better on 1.5ghz 384 ram than 2.7 760 ram with windows installed.
[07:06] <NekoNeko> getting bf to install linux also and he's a windows user
[07:06] <Landy> urpmi was cool
[07:06] <faen> I love urpmi
[07:06] <faen> it's quick for me
[07:06] <NekoNeko> we will not be under the yoke of oppresion that this microsoft propganda machine has created forever! mwhahahaha
[07:07] <faen> but i've been using rpm based distros since I started
[07:07] <windex> if you've ever administered more than 50 unix machines, apt/aptitude is the way to go. i used to be able to upgrade every machine in our office by scheduling a 5:30 to 7am outage window and usually being done way before 6:30.
[07:07] <Landy> NekoNeko, did you move to Linux because the Penguin is cute? :op Only joking, its just amazing how many girl users there are. HAng on, are you a girl?
[07:07] <Determinist> any simple way to make xmms play mp3 files?
[07:07] <NekoNeko> yes I am
[07:07] <NekoNeko> and tux is cute ;)
[07:07] <the--dud> the only operative systems I've had for any great lenght on workstations are slackware, debian, freebsd and ubuntu
[07:07] <windex> my wife isin't leet enough to use linux.
[07:07] <Randall64> That reminds me: I want to see March of the Penguins.
[07:07] <IIIEars> windex - Best distributed disk image application?
[07:08] <Landy> Determinist, there is a way for fedora by adding another apt repository (or maybe yum) and then installing xmms from there. One second