[00:50] <mijk> any games ported to arm??
[01:50] <mijk> everyone idling?
[01:50] <mijk> american idle?
[02:04] <maxinux> idle party!
[09:56] <sire> have you tried ubuntu 12.04 on the cubieboard?
[13:37] <mijk_> anyone know of any good games ported to ARM linux?
[13:45] <XorA> Carmageddon
[13:45] <mijk_>  cool lol
[13:46] <mijk_> I've trie looking for a list but none seem to exist
[13:46] <XorA> Quake, Doom, Heretic, Hexen, etc etc
[13:46] <mijk_> Ithink Doom 3 is
[14:09] <LetoThe2nd> emacs' elize.
[14:11] <mijk_> Half-Life would be awesome on ARM linux
[14:16] <XorA> I guess that will happen when thingymabobbers can make the Steam box really cheap using nvidia tech
[14:19] <mijk_> someone should make a list of games/apps porte to ARM linux
[14:20] <XorA> mijk_: that list is the same as games ported to Linux
[14:21] <XorA> minus the obvious valve ones
[14:27] <mijk_> evry game will crosscompile to ARM??
[14:31] <XorA> if we have sourcecode it will
[14:31] <XorA> main issue on arm is lack of decent GL drivers
[14:31] <mijk_> only OpenGL ES?
[14:32] <XorA> mijk_: even they tend to be second class!
[14:32] <mijk_> open glez? or opengles?
[14:32] <mijk_> ouch, my opengles!
[14:38] <XorA> we pray to Gods like Rob Clark for freedreno and whoever does Lima for opening arm to gaming!
[15:04] <ogra_> XorA, Mir will surely solve all first world probs here :P
[15:06] <XorA> ogra_: thats only really a part time hack as its build on delicate binary drivers
[15:07] <XorA> ogra_: although Im impressed with Mirs progress
[15:09] <ogra_> XorA, well, sort term i doubt you will find ubuntu images that dont use boinary blobs on arm (and the lxc container for the android HAL)
[15:10] <ogra_> s/sort/short/
[15:10] <ogra_> so whatever has the android container will have full HW support through Mir to get GLES as well as codecs just working
[15:11] <XorA> ogra_: but I see hideousness in GL rendering even in Android :-D
[15:11] <ogra_> with plain Mir it shouldnt be a prob, not so sure about XMir on arm though
[15:11] <XorA> ogra_: Mir can only ever be as good as its base, and at the moment that base sucks!
[15:12] <ogra_> well, it works fine with surfaceflinger
[15:12] <ogra_> and i havent heard of regressions with Mir vs SF
[15:12] <ogra_> in the arm case Mir is just a 1:1 replacement for SF
[15:13] <ogra_> indeed, if the vendor blob drivers suck, there isnt much to fix :)
[15:14] <XorA> ogra_: thats my main issue, when I try 3d games, they tend to misrender a lot on a lot of devices
[15:14] <ogra_> ah
[15:14] <XorA> Nexus 4 seems to do ok though!
[15:15] <ogra_> yeah, well, we support like 50 sdevices now (well, the community does) ... but yeah nexus should all work
[15:15] <XorA> these embedded GFX drivers are currently second class in a lot of manufacturers I think, I guess this will change if Android gaming market becomes real $$$
[15:15] <ogra_> even gnex
[15:15] <ogra_> ouya will save us all !
[15:15] <ogra_> :)
[15:16] <XorA> I think the best thing would be a Steambox arm, Valve kicked x86 vendors butts, they need to do arm now :-D
[15:16] <ogra_> yeah
[15:16] <ogra_> ++ on that
[15:16] <ogra_> i suspect they are waiting for Mir here though
[15:16] <ogra_> so they can just use the drivers for now
[15:17] <ogra_> (and kick the butss for actual issues they find)
[15:17] <ogra_> *butts
[15:17] <XorA> hmm, half life on me tablet :-D
[15:18] <ogra_> HL2 rather :)
[15:19] <ogra_> and TF2 with oculus rift on your phone !!!
[15:19] <XorA> ogra_: Blueshift was my favourite
[15:19]  * ogra_ has a CD of that somewhere in a box
[15:20] <XorA> ogra_: Add any HL game to steam and you get them all for free :-D
[15:20] <ogra_> yeah i have a ton of steam games i bought and still didnt even play once
[15:20] <ogra_> HL being among them
[15:20] <XorA> I figure it must be becuase the original HL/Opposing force had no CD keys
[15:20] <XorA> or at least my ones don't
[15:20] <ogra_> my blueshift CD does
[15:21] <XorA> yeah blueshift is the only one that does in my collection
[19:11] <deegee_1> hi all, is there a way or a howto; to reloading lubuntu onto the nand of pcduino? if the os on nand is not booting up. read through the pcduino user guide alreaady. tnx


[00:19] <poningru> hmm
[00:19] <poningru> I think there is something wrong with turning on the fan in my laptop after coming back up from hibernate
[00:19] <poningru> as in the cpu temp goes waaay up
[00:19] <poningru> but the fan doesnt kick in
[00:20] <poningru> but only after I hibernate and then come out of it
[00:32] <DanaG> Don't you just love broken BIOSes?
[00:33] <DanaG> I've been lucky to only have the opposite problem, and only occasionally:
[00:34] <DanaG> My ACPI Thermal Zone will sometimes randomly decide it's really hot, and ramp the fans way up, and stick that way until I reboot.
[00:34] <poningru> hmm you think its the bios?
[00:34] <poningru> oh that makes sense I guess
[00:34] <poningru> whats hibernate?
[00:34] <poningru> S5?
[00:34] <DanaG> Or rather, the ACPI code -- what's called a "DSDT".
[00:35] <DanaG> I find it odd that it'd work after hibernate -- hibernate seems mostly like shutdown, to me.
[00:35] <poningru> S4
[00:35] <DanaG> Somewhere the kernel must be poking something in a way that makes the fan work.
[00:35] <poningru> no I think its probably the bios
[00:35] <DanaG> DSDT is stored in / part of the BIOS.
[00:35] <poningru> oh hmm
[00:36] <DanaG> But you can override it if you can find a fixed one online.
[00:37] <DanaG> You'd have to look up your system (laptop or desktop or whatever) by model number, along with the word 'ACPI'.
[00:37] <poningru> yeah tried that already
[00:37] <poningru> havent really found anything
[00:37] <poningru> oh well not my laptop
[00:37] <poningru> just the chipset
[00:38] <DanaG> Dang.
[00:54] <crimsun> hmph.  We seem to have a problem with the default mixer element being mislabeled in pavucontrol.
[00:54] <crimsun> e.g., PCM vice Master
[00:58] <DanaG> PulseAudio does odd things to my USB headset.
[00:58] <DanaG> The control name in alsamixer is "Speaker".  When I try to use the gnome volume control, the left channel repeatedly drops to zero volume.
[01:03] <crimsun> DanaG: what're the `lshal` and `asoundconf list` bits for your headset?
[01:06] <DanaG> oh
[01:07] <DanaG> asoundconf list:  "Headset"  (without quotes)
[01:07] <DanaG> Which part of LSHAL?  Just name and Device ID?
[01:08] <DanaG> info.product     Logitech USB Headset
[01:08] <crimsun> DanaG: everything relevant to your headset.
[01:09] <DanaG> I'll pastebin the whole thing, then.
[01:11] <DanaG> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49369/
[01:11] <DanaG> Oddly, it shows up as a composite device with only one subdevice.
[01:11] <DanaG> I guess they must make another model that uses similar chips but adds a HID device, or something.
[01:14] <crimsun> unfortunately there's no SSID info
[01:14] <crimsun> that's the only way that can be cross-referenced
[01:16] <DanaG> SSID?
[01:16] <crimsun> subsystem identifier
[01:16] <DanaG> Oh yeah, another odd thing is that it shows three "USB Audio Interface" devices in hal-device-manager tree, but only one has the sound card subdevice.
[01:17] <crimsun> hal just needs to be taught about it.
[01:17] <DanaG> Even Windows shows it as a USB Composite Device.  Besides that cosmetic issue, the "mutes left channel" is the real issue.
[01:17] <DanaG> I believe PulseAudio is what's doing that.
[01:18] <crimsun> ...
[01:18] <crimsun> why would PA have anything to do with what d-
[01:18] <crimsun> h-d-m exposes?
[01:18] <DanaG> Oh wait, it's not pulseaudio.  Even without PA running, gnome volume control still mutes the left channel.
[01:19] <crimsun> so we need to look at GSt if alsamixer/amixer/aumix work correctly.
[01:19] <DanaG> AAh.  Console alsamixer works correctly.
[01:42] <pwnguin> i do wish liferea had proper mime type handling
[02:03] <romistrub> what's this new sound system being developed?
[02:04] <romistrub> I'm entirely new to the linux community (first week) and my friend (who intro'd me) told me about this new sound system
[02:25] <DarkMageZ> romistrub, possibly pulseaudio.
[02:28]  * DanaG uses PulseAudio.
[02:28] <DanaG> It can do wonderful things, but it also can cause evil bugs in poorly-coded apps.
[02:29] <DanaG> For example, one time PulseAudio crashed, and the next time Pidgin went to play a sound, it sat there eating up my memory until it was taking 80% of (RAM + SWAP).
[02:30] <DarkMageZ> hehe, pidgin = poorly coded app =D
[02:49] <DarkMageZ> is there a way to stop this new xorg from ignoring /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[05:33] <DanaG> 2+2 = ....buzz..buzz..buzz... 10.     In base 4, I'm fine.
[05:34] <DanaG> s/=/is/
[06:45] <DanaG> Hmm, I just discovered ANOTHER thing about PulseAudio:
[06:45] <DanaG> It uses the "PCM" slider of my Audigy, not the "Front", so I can't upmix.
[07:08] <DanaG> PulseAudio also won't automatically use surround on my Audigy2.
[07:08] <Hobbsee> your sound setup sounds terrible.
[07:08] <Hobbsee> crimsun: fix it :)
[07:08] <Hobbsee> crimsun: DanaG's sounds worse than my old frankenstinean laptop, no?
[07:09] <DanaG> No, it actually sounds rather good.
[07:09] <crimsun> it should sound better.  It uses speex's resampler by default.
[07:09] <crimsun> also, I noted the mixer element issue above.
[07:10] <crimsun> it's 2 AM localtime, so I will have to peer more closely later today.
[07:10]  * Hobbsee was meaning level of tempramentalness, not actual sound
[07:11] <DanaG> Oh, and daemon.conf seems to have had all comments removed lately.
[07:11] <DanaG> the .dpkg-old version still has them.
[07:11] <crimsun> um, no.
[07:12] <crimsun> that's very much a local issue for you.
[07:12] <DanaG> Odd.
[07:13] <crimsun> Hobbsee: yes, but [un]fortunately that's not PA's fault.  We can blame ALSA for the overly complex mixer elements enumeration for EMU10Ks.
[07:13] <crimsun> granted now that we've had that for upwards of a half-decade, we have to carry that legacy compatibility...
[07:13] <DanaG> If you need sleep, you should get sleep.
[07:13] <Hobbsee> true
[07:13] <Hobbsee> just don't give up sound, whatever you do
[07:13] <DanaG> It's 11:13 for me (Pacific) so I should go to bed soon, anyway.
[07:14] <Knightlust> hi all, quick question.. i have hardy installed, but i want kde4.. how do i go about that. i tried installing kde4 and kde4-core but aptitude gave me dependency errors and won't install it.
[07:14] <DanaG> That reminds me... I've spotted a few bugs in various packages, but I reeeally need to formally file them.
[07:14] <crimsun> (speaking of KDE 4, I'm quite pleased that it will be an option for 8.04.)
[07:15] <DanaG> ....and not get stuck in an endless cycle of "I'll do it tomorrow".
[07:15] <crimsun> memoserv your primary irc nick.
[07:15] <crimsun> use tomboy or stickies, etc.
[07:16] <Hobbsee> use compiz.
[07:16] <Hobbsee> annotate :)
[07:16] <Hobbsee> far more effective.
[07:16] <DanaG> There's also some "don't forget the milk" site online.
[07:17]  * Hobbsee thinks annotate is far more effective
[07:17] <DanaG> It's not permanent, though.
[07:17] <crimsun> unfortunately compiz requires enabling dri, and simply enabling dri is strongly correlated to a plummet in work productivity by sig11s.
[07:18]  * DanaG uses nvidia.
[07:18] <DanaG> I just hope ATI is better than NVIDIA by the time summer rolls around.
[07:18] <DanaG> Oh, one of the bugs I need to file: that scheduler issue.
[07:18] <crimsun> (my symptom is similar to #175744.)
[07:18] <Hobbsee> DanaG: for every bug you file, you either have to fix one, or triage 2.
[07:19] <DanaG> Hmm, is src-sinc-fastest better than the speex resampler?
[07:19] <crimsun> no
[07:20] <DanaG> I guess I need to either give up folding@home or resign myself to running hot.
[07:20] <DanaG> Even if I 'nice' the folding@home processes, anything else (such as PulseAudio) using CPU will speed it up.  Perhaps I just need to change the thresholds.
[07:20] <crimsun> hmm, or be more precise regarding "better".
[07:21] <DanaG> Better as in audible quality difference.
[07:21] <crimsun> then no, it's most definitely "worse" than the default speex one used.
[07:22] <crimsun> you could also just disable resampling period.
[07:22] <DanaG> I haven't thought about how that'd work.
[07:23] <crimsun> I would definitely disable resampling before burning a hole in my pants.
[07:23] <crimsun> granted, if it came to that, I'd chase down a bug in src:linux.
[07:23] <crimsun> barring that and using laziness, revert to l-i-2.6.22-14-generic
[07:24] <crimsun> ok, time to board the train.
[07:24] <crimsun> ^Ad
[07:24] <DanaG> Huh?
[07:24] <DanaG> Train?
[07:25] <crimsun> ^Wmetro, aka "train"
[07:26] <DanaG> Oh yeah, is there a way to make snd-usb-audio be able to give multiple indexes, but none below a certain number?
[07:27] <crimsun> more precise example?
[07:27] <DanaG> Eeh, perhaps commas will work.
[07:27] <Fjodor> Anecdotal remark of a time long past, but back in the days when 2.6.15 was the supplied kernel (was that the dapper?), my laptop reported a cpu temperature in the high 40's or low 50's. After dist-upgrading, it ran consistently in the high 50's and up to 65-67C...
[07:27] <crimsun> yes, commas would work.
[07:27] <Fjodor> Just apropos "running hot"...
[07:27] <billytwowilly> Is there a way to customize the big black bar at the bottom of kde 4?
[07:27] <crimsun> I recommend using slots=  for snd.ko instead of index=  for snd-*.ko, though.
[07:28] <crimsun> unfortunately that [slots] param isn't in 1.0.15 in 2.6.24
[07:28] <crimsun> you'll need hg or a snap
[07:29] <DanaG> I indent to have onboard be 0, audigy be 1, and anything usb be 2 or above.
[07:29] <DanaG> ...but then again, with PulseAudio, it doesn't matter.
[07:29] <crimsun> right, I wouldn't use plug: for PA
[07:29] <crimsun> just use PA natively
[07:29] <crimsun> (w/ hal)
[07:30] <crimsun> I think I made that comment earlier last night
[07:30] <DanaG> Oh yeah, now I remember why I keep them in a certain order: for the Gnome mixer.
[07:31] <crimsun> (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/109439/comments/4)
[07:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109439 in pulseaudio "pulseaudio should use default alsa devices" [Undecided,New]
[07:32] <DanaG> Pulseaudio as default, using default:  bad.  Very bad.  I know -- I've tried it, accidentally.
[07:33] <DanaG> Gaack, that hotplug sound always catches me by surprise. It's actually kind of funny that I haven't learned not to put headphones on until after I've plugged them in.
[07:34] <DanaG> (referring to 'conditioned response', partly.)
[07:34] <crimsun> ok, really 'night.
[07:34] <DanaG> Good nigh.
[07:34] <DanaG> t.
[07:35] <DanaG> Next thing I think I'll do: ditch my Audigy and get a CM106-based USB sound card.
[07:35]  * DanaG redirects his rant to /dev/null
[07:46] <DanaG> Note to self: don't repeatedly eject and insert my Audigy.
[07:55] <Laser88> Hi!
[08:04] <DarkMageZ> anyone know how i can make xorg pat attention to /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[08:07] <scizzo-> DarkMageZ: xorg pat?
[08:07] <DarkMageZ> pay*
[08:08] <DarkMageZ> it appears to be completely ignoring it :(
[08:08] <scizzo-> DarkMageZ: X needs to be restarted for xorg to be reread
[08:08] <DarkMageZ> i rebooted the entire syste
[08:09] <scizzo-> DarkMageZ: well then what is the change you are trying to do?
[08:09] <Laser88> After the reboot are your changes still in the xorg.conf or are they overwritten?
[08:10] <DarkMageZ> still in the xorg.conf
[08:12] <scizzo-> still asking what you are trying to change and what you think should happen?
[08:15] <Laser88> yep, would be interesting
[08:16] <DarkMageZ> i added a resolution.
[08:16] <scizzo-> DarkMageZ: paste the config on pastebin
[08:17] <DarkMageZ> http://pastebin.ca/829576
[08:19] <scizzo-> the "1280x960" ?
[08:19] <Laser88> And you cannot choose it?
[08:20] <DarkMageZ> yeah. the 1280x960. can't pick it. works without the fglrx package
[08:21] <Laser88> What if you uncomment the other resolutions?
[08:22] <DarkMageZ> turn them into comments? shouldn't have to go that far.
[08:23] <Laser88> Shouldn't - but I've heard that it sometimes helps - forces the 1280x960
[08:23] <DarkMageZ> right, i'm gonna give it a shot
[08:24] <Laser88> But you should be able to make this change back without X
[08:24] <pwnguin> finally
[08:24] <pwnguin> my sd card works
[08:24] <DarkMageZ> restarting
[08:24]  * pwnguin does a dance
[08:25] <pwnguin> <(o-o)<
[08:25] <pwnguin> >(o-o)>
[08:25] <pwnguin> \o\
[08:25] <Laser88> The pwnguin-shuffle^^
[08:26] <pwnguin> oh man, if these new xorg updates bring in fixed wacom
[08:26] <pwnguin> im set
[08:27] <pwnguin> they do not =(
[08:27] <DarkMageZ> no change
[09:37] <Laser88> Did anybody already create a new user with HardyHeron?
[09:44] <Laser88> Experienced problems?
[10:24] <DreadKnight>  is anyone using hardy with kde4 allready?
[10:24] <stdin> indeed :)
[10:24] <bazhang> hehe
[10:28] <DreadKnight> how do i upgrade? is it enough to add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main" to the 3rd party repo and update?
[10:28] <stdin> don't mix gutsy and hardy
[10:29] <stdin> if you want to upgrade just replace gutsy with hardy (and may god have mercy on you)
[10:29] <DreadKnight> in the sources.list file?
[10:29] <cj_> perl -p -i -e s/gutsy/hardy/g /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:29] <pvandewyngaerde> if you want to spend your hollidays   fixing your system
[10:30] <DreadKnight> hehe
[10:31] <stdin> "sed -i 's/gutsy/hardy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list" is a shorter command
[10:31] <pvandewyngaerde> what is the last g for ?
[10:31] <stdin> without 'g' it would stop after the 1st instance/replace
[10:35] <cj_> stdin: thats non POSIX :o
[10:35] <stdin> it's how sed works, blame GNU
[10:36] <cj_> indeed. real sed is a lot less forgiving
[10:47] <MaximLevitsky> One question, I updated the system to hardy, and notice that all gtk application use some default and not-good theme. How can I fix this, or is this a bug?
[10:49] <MaximLevitsky> I used feisty before, then updated to gutsy, used it for a day, and then updated to hardy. Usially I "update" the system by reinstalling newer version, and this is why I used so outdated version. But now I dicovered that updates aren't bad at all, and now I am back using beta-version of ubuntu
[10:50] <MaximLevitsky> Mostly this is the only problem I have
[10:50] <MaximLevitsky> I use kubuntu
[10:51] <pvandewyngaerde> FF3 is ugly here, also gtk related i think
[10:51] <pvandewyngaerde> also kubuntu
[10:53] <MaximLevitsky> I have all gtk applications ugly: large fonts, square window98 like buttons, etc
[10:53] <MaximLevitsky> I meant square widgets
[10:54] <MaximLevitsky> I need to know whenever this is a config-related issue, or a real bug that I will report
[10:54] <MaximLevitsky> Before the update all applications, but vmware-server did look right
[10:55] <MaximLevitsky> After update to gutsy I got vmware looking right, but few alpplications got ugly
[10:55] <MaximLevitsky> Now all are ugly
[11:21] <travkin> Hello guys.
[11:21] <travkin> I have problem.
[11:21] <travkin> GTK themes doesnt working, Firefox/Gajim/Pidgin are ugly.
[11:21] <travkin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=648099
[11:21] <travkin> how to fix this ?
[11:21] <MaximLevitsky> Same here
[11:22] <travkin> :(
[11:22] <travkin> any ideas ?
[11:23] <MaximLevitsky> Don't have any ideas  :-(
[11:24] <MaximLevitsky> But since you have same issue, this is prbably a bug
[11:24] <travkin> Where can i report about this ?
[11:25] <MaximLevitsky> Launchpad ?
[11:31] <MaximLevitsky> You can report bug on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[11:31] <MaximLevitsky> I probably report it there if you don't wat to do so
[11:35] <travkin> and also java doesn't work
[11:40] <MaximLevitsky> Yep
[11:40] <MaximLevitsky> "java: xcb_xlib.c:82: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed."
[11:42] <MaximLevitsky> Java doesn't work here too
[11:42] <MaximLevitsky> "java: xcb_xlib.c:82: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed."
[11:45] <travkin> MaximLevitsky: how to fix ? :(
[11:45] <MaximLevitsky> Don't know :-)
[13:34] <hit> how do i see if i have alpha 1 or 2 installed?
[13:36] <DarkMageZ> hit, kernel version. .22 is alpha 1 .24 is alpha 2
[13:36] <DarkMageZ> tho you can just run the updater on alpha 1 to reach alpha 2
[13:37] <hit> alpha 2 then already, thanks
[13:43] <hit> DarkMageZ, any changelog or somthing about what's fixed/added in alpha 2?
[13:43] <hit> +e
[13:44] <DarkMageZ> hit, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/Alpha2 is all i can think of atm.
[13:44] <DarkMageZ> tho there's probably more =D
[13:45] <hit> i'm curious about those screen freezes i've had here with alpha 1
[13:46] <hit> so far haven't had any with 2, so maybe it's fixed somehow
[13:50] <optx>  hi can somebody give me a link how to fix the 'running local boot script' on hardy please ?
[13:51] <optx> when i google i just get fixes for 7.10 ???
[13:52] <hit> roar
[13:52] <hit> another freeze
[13:52] <hit> ctrl alt backsp won't even work
[13:53] <DarkMageZ> hit, i haven't experienced any freezing. probably a driver issue.
[13:54] <optx> no help 4 this prob ?
[13:54] <hit> ati drivers
[13:54] <hit> not official
[13:55] <DarkMageZ> hit, refering to fglrx or ati 6.7.197?
[13:55] <hit> ati
[13:55] <hit> fglrx was even worse
[13:56] <DarkMageZ> i'm running ubuntu's ati (xorg) driver. stable. chipset version with driver issue i would guess.
[13:57] <DarkMageZ> what ati chipset? rv200/300/410
[13:57] <optx> so what can i do to get hardy working ?
[13:57] <hit> 9550
[13:58] <DarkMageZ> hit, lspci | grep ati
[13:58] <hit> RV350?
[13:59] <DarkMageZ> ah. same as my card (probably a different clock rate and stuff)
[13:59] <hit> ah and i have 6.7.196
[13:59] <hit> as synaptic says
[14:00] <DarkMageZ> yeah. there's no changes in upstream's code that directly references our chipset as unstable. are you sure it's not a hardware issue.
[14:01] <hit> i.e gaming in windows is fine
[14:02] <hit> can't be hw problem i think
[14:02] <DarkMageZ> gaming is a good test. was a previous ubuntu/linux fine?
[14:03] <hit> again
[14:03] <optx> nobody here to help me ?
[14:03] <hit> very often happens when using firefox
[14:04] <DarkMageZ> optx, i have nfi about your problem :p
[14:04] <DarkMageZ> hit, gaming is a good test. was a previous ubuntu/linux fine? have you applied some tweaks to your xorg conf or something?
[14:04] <optx> DarkMageZ:  u got hardy running ?
[14:05] <hit> didn't have any problems with gutsy and xorg conf should be quite default
[14:05] <DarkMageZ> optx, yeah. it's stable here.
[14:05] <hit> conf is quite small also imo..
[14:06] <optx> hmm k gonna check a other release ..
[14:06] <optx> couldnt even boot the 64bit one :(
[14:06] <DarkMageZ> hit, i'm out of ideas. maybe poke the guys in #radeon or #xorg. get some debugging happening =D
[14:06] <hit> DarkMageZ, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49415/
[14:09] <DarkMageZ> hit, you might also want to apply this to your xorg.conf
[14:09] <DarkMageZ> Section "ServerFlags"
[14:09] <DarkMageZ>         Option "NoTrapSignals" "true"
[14:09] <DarkMageZ> EndSection
[14:09] <hit> which is...?
[14:10] <DarkMageZ> it disables xorg's own debug handling and will properly crash (so the ubuntu crash handler can do it's work)
[14:10] <hit> sounds good
[14:10] <DarkMageZ> which reminds me to do it to my own xorg.conf ?
[14:13] <DarkMageZ> hit, please do attempt to get this debugged. i'd hate to see yet another bug like that slip into yet another release.
[14:14] <DarkMageZ> anyways. i'm out. it's 1:13am here =D
[14:14] <hit> 4:14pm :p
[14:14] <hit> i've searched ubuntuforums and there are some threads about the same issue
[14:15] <hit> some of them had found fixes to it, but they're not working for me
[14:15] <DarkMageZ> yeah, it's not good for them to hack around the problem. i believe these things shouldn't happen (if possible) in the first place.
[14:16] <DarkMageZ> especially with a critical component such as xorg
[14:17] <DarkMageZ> hit,  yeah, it's not good for them to hack around the problem. i believe these things shouldn't happen (if possible) in the first place. especially with a critical component such as xorg.
[14:18] <hit> yep
[14:18] <DarkMageZ> anyways, i'm out. laters. good luck.
[14:29] <DreadKnight> hey, the PPA kde4 repository from launchad is 'better'  than the packages from kubuntu 7.10/8.04?
[14:30] <DreadKnight> i mean better as in "more updated" :\
[17:22] <DreadKnight> i got kubuntu hardy, i want to install kde4, but seems the packages from ppa are broken (dependencies issues)
[17:23] <DreadKnight> can anyone give me some tips on how to install kde4? :|
[17:38] <Artimus> I've got the Kubuntu Hardy Alpha 2 ISO booted in a VM with a blank partition table.  I can click ok to make a partition table, but there's no option to create partitions...  Am I missing a step here, or is it head-to-launchpad time?
[18:06] <Mohero> Hi all
[18:32] <JohnFlux> Anyone know what's with the kubuntu LTS being dropped at the last moment?
[18:32] <JohnFlux> The next Kubuntu LTS seems to have been pushed back to 2010
[18:36] <Dr_willis> I would guess they  wanted to play it safe? :)
[18:36] <Dr_willis> Linux is growing/evoloving so fast lately.. its scary
[18:44] <Tomcat_> Who cares... it's necessary to have LTS versions. : )
[18:46] <conn> hi, does anyone notice very sluggish gtk menu speed? For example, click on the "Applications" menu and navigate to "Places" and "System"; it's very sluggish on my systems. Gutsy didn't have this problem
[19:04] <nixternal> anyone have issues when using the restricted ati driver (fglrx)? i just selected it in the restricted driver manager and now I don't get anything, just a blank screen
[19:06] <DanaG> It might be the new CFS scheduler in 2.6.24.
[19:06] <crdlb> it might also be the new fglrx :)
[19:06] <DanaG> I've noticed sluggishness on my system, too.
[19:13] <Artimus> nixternal: I had to break down and install it manually on a friend's box
[19:14] <Artimus> Oh, wait, wrong channel.  I had to manually install it in Gutsy...
[19:14] <Artimus> No way would I put Hardy on someone else's box.
[19:14] <travkin> Hello guys.
[19:14] <Artimus> Also, who's idea was it to make it another "H" release?  I keep calling it Hoary
[19:14] <travkin> GTK+ themes doesn't work under KDE
[19:14] <travkin> i get the rather ugly default unthemed GTK+ look
[19:15] <travkin> in all GTK applications
[19:15] <travkin> what to do?
[19:15] <travkin> i tried to choose theme in gtk-qt config page
[19:15] <travkin> in system-settings
[19:15] <travkin> but its doesnt work
[19:15] <travkin> tried to add a new user, but i got same results.
[19:26] <DanaG> Gaack, my fonts are all color-fringey!
[19:27] <Artimus> Yes, and the fonts look horrible at 800x600 :P
[19:29] <DanaG> What happened to my legacy lcdfilter?
[19:30] <DanaG> Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/100-legacy-subpixel.conf", line 5: invalid constant used : legacy
[19:33] <DanaG> Aieee, it's all cleartype-ey!
[19:57] <Artimus> kcontrol is broken in Hardy...  I miss it :(     (I'm not a fan systemsettings, this will be fixed before the day is over...)
[20:28] <WorkingOnWis1> are the repos down right now?
[21:13] <rb2k> did the gpg keys for the hardy packages change?
[21:13] <Dr_willis> WorkingOnWis1,  ive heard a few others ask that as well.. I wonder if some of the servers may be down. theres not a lot of people asking.
[21:13] <rb2k> I get errors when trying to upgrad to hardy
[21:13] <rb2k> (from 7.10)
[21:20] <DanaG> Sometime servers can be flaky, and sometimes there can be dependency conflicts.
[21:21] <rb2k> but with the standard upgrad procedure too?!
[21:21] <DanaG> I usually use Aptitude for nearly everything.
[21:21] <DanaG> What kind of errors are you getting?  (describe, don't paste.)
[21:22] <rb2k> uhm... approximately something like "Can't verify those packets:   *insert all the packets here*  "
[21:22] <DanaG> Aah, try re-updating package lists.
[21:22] <DanaG> That usually happens if a connection dies during a package-list update.
[21:22] <rb2k> nope, tried several times :)
[21:22] <rb2k> including apt-get updates in between
[21:23] <DanaG> aah.
[21:23] <rb2k> no MD5/SHA1 errors
[21:23] <rb2k> simply signing errors afaik
[21:23] <DanaG> Hmm.
[22:44] <DanaG> Gaack, and I can't find the CD drive in Wine apps.
[23:29] <tumbleweed__> DanaG : you have to add the cd drive manually in winecfg
[23:30] <DanaG> I did, but the next time I open winecfg, it's not there.
[23:31] <tumbleweed__> huh
[23:36] <DanaG> And the "d::" symlink is still there in ~/.wine/dosdevices


[01:43] <allesnik> Having trouble fetching an older version of libfreetype6-dev. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/freetype/libfreetype6-dev_2.5.2-1ubuntu2.4_amd64.deb is 404ing. Any thoughts?
[01:45] <allesnik> Looks like 2.5 was released yesterday. Is it expected that I cannot download 2.4 now?
[02:03] <tarpman> allesnik: yes; but if you really need the older one, you can get it from launchpad
[02:04] <tarpman> allesnik: why do you want the version without the security fixes?
[02:05] <patdk-lap> new isn't better!
[02:06] <tarpman> patdk-lap: not always; but "with security fixes" is usually (not always!) better than "without security fixes", imo :)
[02:07] <patdk-lap> heh, I can't comment, tmi
[02:36] <allesnik> tarpman: I don't necessary want the older version but I cannot seem to get the latest version (2.5.2-1ubuntu2.5) either
[05:43] <freezevee> Can someone please help me with an issue described here ? http://serverfault.com/questions/721890/how-to-setup-vagrant-with-nginx-passenger-mysql-rvm
[06:31] <sb_9> does any one heard node-rendezvous?
[08:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:19] <Tangurin> Hi! On my website on the ubuntu server I got a problem. When I upload a image via SFTP, my php application can't read or use the image. And I changed the permission so it worked but now I can't overwrite the images in the uploads folder because I don't get correct permission via SFTP. What can I do to set the correct permission for both the server and the SFTP user
[09:21] <lordievader> Tangurin: Set up a shared group I'd say.
[09:21] <Tangurin> lordievader: ok thanks I have to read about what that is!
[09:45] <Walex> Tangurin: more generally using a UNIX-like system it is a bit optimistic to expect for file ownership and permissions to "just work" without studying them in careful detail.
[09:46] <Tangurin> Walex: I am optimistic! but... it have not helped me this far haha
[11:11] <freezevee> Can someone please help me with an issue described here ? http://serverfault.com/questions/721890/how-to-setup-vagrant-with-nginx-passenger-mysql-rvm
[13:14] <edgy> tanuki: hi
[13:16] <Norbin> by default, is there a size limit to log files such as /var/log/auth.log ?
[13:17] <edgy> somedays ago I repoted that my ubuntu working as a guest using virt-manager stops working frequently. Actually, it's the network that got down every now and then. I can log via console and ifconfig shows it's UP but cannot ping or access the network from in -> out or vice versa
[13:18] <edgy> Norbin: AFAIK, no, you can check the limits on the logrotate.d scripts
[13:18] <edgy> Norbin: /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog doesn't show any limits in my system
[13:22] <Norbin> thanks
[13:47] <Egyptian[Home]> morning - i have a maas issue; my deployments are failing to a) resolve hostnames unless poked at a few times b) proxy fails to respond after that .. thing is it used to work 5 days ago and no changes have been made as far as i can tell
[13:48] <Egyptian[Home]> and c) proxy settings are not being pushed to the maas/juju clients
[14:11] <Egyptian[Home]> any maas guys around ?
[14:37] <quantic> smelsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf
[14:38] <quantic> doh
[14:38] <quantic> holy ssh lag batman
[18:16] <Guest4723> Hi! How do I disable bind9 to cache and respond with ipv6 addresses?
[18:17] <Guest4723> As there is no Ipv6 address deployed in my network it slowng down the surfing .
[18:30] <Egyptian[Home]> Guest4723: https://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2009/03/21/configure-bind-9-for-ipv4-or-ipv6-only/
[18:37] <ahi2> anyone use freedns? do i need to add dns update script to apache?
[22:45] <teward> ahi2: for dynamic dns?
[22:46] <teward> oops nevermind
[22:46]  * teward is late by 4 hours :/
[22:46]  * teward hates slow bouncer data


[02:17] <helpwbbb> Hello, is anyone online
[03:02] <LinDol> hi all :)
[07:25] <LinDol> umm
[07:26] <LinDol> could i try to translate https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME ?


[12:24] <serfus> i have found 2 untranslated strings in firefox, but i can't find those strings in launchpad
[12:38] <serfus> and another thing, i found a bug of something not translated but i don't know what is this package
[21:11] <cjohnston> Could someone please approve my email to the ML about the LoCo Team Directory?


[02:19] <RagnarokAngel> Hey everyone
[02:19] <cyberanger> hey RagnarokAngel
[02:19] <wrst> howdy
[02:21] <RagnarokAngel> Finally got that keyboard programmed
[02:21] <RagnarokAngel> mostly
[02:26] <wrst> what are you doing with it?
[02:28] <RagnarokAngel> the plan is to connect it to an android phone/tablet and add a big battery as a sort of digital off-the-shelf parts typewriter
[02:32] <wrst> cool
[02:32] <wrst> I've never had a normal keyboard connected to android
[02:37] <RagnarokAngel> I haven't either but usb host was added in android 4.something
[02:41] <RagnarokAngel> this old thing has a DIN5 connector tho. I need to get an active ps2/usb adapter for this to work
[15:25] <Unit193> Omnifrog: Howdy.
[15:25] <Omnifrog> hi Unit193
[15:28] <Omnifrog> guh, more rain
[15:28] <Unit193> At least it keeps things cool.
[15:28] <Unit193> Temp: 75 F (24 C) ~ Mostly Cloudy ~ Heat index: NA ~ Humidity: 76%
[15:28] <Unit193> :/
[22:34] <exodus_ms> anyone here
[22:56] <exodus_ms> I see this channel is just as active as always… :P
[22:58] <Unit193> Yeppers.  Howdy.
[23:01] <exodus_ms> hey. whats new?
[23:05]  * Omnifrog returns from July4 dinner
[23:06] <Unit193> Not a ton, I don't think. You?
[23:08] <wrst> exodus_ms: what's up???
[23:09] <wrst> and exodus_ms you are just here too late at night! :P
[23:11] <wrst> well Unit193 I did it again!
[23:14] <wrst> Omnifrog: did you have any rain??? :)
[23:14] <Omnifrog>  A LOT
[23:14] <wrst> it is pouring right now
[23:15] <Omnifrog> it's still raining and there is another cell of heavy downpour just to the south
[23:16] <Omnifrog> which seems to be intensifying
[23:25] <wrst> I think I may be getting that now :)


[00:04] <xubuntu54d> hi i have xubuntu 18.04 the problem i have is broken package unableto fixed any suggestion ?
[00:11] <xubuntu54d> hello
[00:14] <Makerblaker> Hello
[00:14] <Makerblaker> Which package are you having issues with?
[00:14] <xubuntu54d> nvidia
[03:22] <n-iCe> is xubuntu also a livecd?
[17:00] <xubuntu82w> день добрый, скажите данная ос поддерживает сенсорный экран и тачпад?
[17:01] <gnrp> xubuntu82w: if you are not a spam bot, this is an English speaking channel ;-)
[17:01] <knome> !ru | xubuntu82w
[17:02] <xubuntu82w> good day, tell me this OS supports touch screen tacpad?
[17:03] <gnrp> yes, it does, although you might be facing compatibility issues with the touch screen (check the vendor before) and xfce is imho not a good choice for touch-based usage
[17:05] <xubuntu82w> and what to choose then?
[17:07] <gnrp> I think gnome (so regular ubuntu) is more suited, but others might have better ideas. I don't use a touch screen right now
[17:07] <gnrp> I was using xfce with a touch screen for some time and it was nice, but you could tell that it was not made for that, I guess others impement it much better
[17:08] <xubuntu82w> ok
[17:08] <xubuntu82w> thanks
[17:49] <johanhelmuth> Does "apt list --installed" include more variables than the arch linux command "pacman -Qe"? I like the idea of lightweight, barebone, clean systems. And I'm surprised to see so much pre-installed packages on Xubuntu. Maybe the ubuntu apt list command just include more?
[17:51] <johanhelmuth> Or maybe the ubuntu base just has a lot more dependencies to begin with?
[17:53] <brainwash> johanhelmuth: xubuntu is not lightweight
[17:54] <johanhelmuth> brainwash: Yeah, I'm starting to realize that, I probably should have done more research before installing. I just went by what I've "heard" online without any regards of sources.
[17:56] <Spass> johanhelmuth, Xubuntu can be minimal, but to achieve that you should use mini.iso and Xubuntu Core package, more about it here - https://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/
[17:57] <johanhelmuth> Spass: Ooh! Thanks a bunch, will check that out
[17:57] <Spass> but yeah, Ubuntu base still makes it heavier than Arch + Xfce
[17:57] <johanhelmuth> Maybe Debian netinstall would be something for me? I really do prefer apt to pacman
[17:57] <Spass> it all depends of what you expect from an operating system, I guess
[17:58] <johanhelmuth> Maybe it's rude of me to discuss this here, actually
[17:58] <Spass> there are many light distros based on Debian, but since I like Xubuntu I can recommend trying that Xubuntu Core way :)
[17:59] <johanhelmuth> Will definitely give that a try, thanks again, much appreciated!
[21:59] <johanhelmuth> Spass: Your recommendation about the minimal Xubuntu install was exactly what I wanted! Bare minimum installed on the system. Good stuff.
[21:59] <Spass> nice, good to hear
[23:36] <xubuntu90i> hello
[23:36] <johanhelmuth> hei there
[23:37] <xubuntu90i> I am having an issue I wonder if anyone can help with
[23:37] <johanhelmuth> ask away, people seem very helpful in here
[23:38] <xubuntu90i> If I restart my laptop after the battery dies, firefox, chromium, etc run extremely slowly
[23:38] <xubuntu90i> lots of lag, even typing lag
[23:39] <xubuntu90i> why could this be? and how do I stop it from happening
[23:41] <johanhelmuth> Do you use a Dell laptop?
[23:41] <xubuntu90i> yes
[23:42] <johanhelmuth> Have a look at this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/789295/slow-cpu-after-resume
[23:42] <johanhelmuth> Seems like a powerstate issue.
[23:43] <xubuntu90i> aha thank you I will try this
[23:44] <johanhelmuth> Good luck


[06:34] <ImyndOfwaLLrz> #slackware
[06:35] <ImyndOfwaLLrz> sorry
[09:55] <xu-irc24w> hello, since i upgraded my system to xubuntu 21.10 i have a sound issue while playing videos. after some minutes the sound crashes and become a humming noise and the video stops playing. after disableing the sound and enable again, the sound is back to normal and the video can be played. dont know, what to do
[09:55] <xu-irc24w> any ideas?
[10:57] <xu-help60w> hi
[10:58] <dennisee> p
[10:58] <dennisee> hi
[10:58] <dennisee> hi
[10:58] <dennisee> hi
[10:59] <dennisee> can anyone help me?


[04:58] <kambei> Hi.
[04:58] <kambei> I have several machines and I would like to authenticate user logins and possibly host home directories off of one machine.
[04:58] <kambei> What should I be reading and/or searching for?
[05:15] <kambei> By the way, this is not for an Edubuntu system, but I was pointed in this direction for assistance.
[08:45] <pipedream> openldap for auth
[08:45] <pipedream> home dirs depend: if you have windows clients included in the batch, use samba
[08:45] <pipedream> I like NFS
[10:03] <ajmitch> hi ogra
[12:04] <cbx33> ping ping ping ogra
[12:04] <cbx33> :p
[12:07] <cbx33> ping RichEd-1
[12:21] <cbx33> ogra, I'm here for next hour at least so meeting whenever you want it
[02:34] <stgraber> morning
[02:42] <cbx33> ogra, ping
[02:42] <cbx33> :p
[02:44] <cbx33> heheh
[02:44] <stgraber> A backup is already ready for the reinstall anyway :)
[02:45] <stgraber> the good point is that the server is in the room next to mine and not at 200km like my others one are :)
[03:16] <stgraber> Ok, rebooting if I'm lucky I'll be back in a minute :)
[03:20] <stgraber> well, I'm lucky :)