[12:00] <NoUse> rapha how bizzare is that, you can read it but sudo can't
[12:00] <DarthMorlock> hello?
[12:00] <bbrazil> Jemt: that's probably a kernel lock-up then
[12:00] <valehru> gftp is really not stable right now on my systemj.....keeps shutting down
[12:00] <Jemt> bbrazil: True, but I actually need some of this new software - ie. MySQL 5
[12:00] <crimsun_> rixth: I'm debugging a fairly critical resume from suspend-to-RAM issue currently; can it wait, or will your computer explode if I look at it in an hour?
[12:00] <Jemt> bbrazil: Uhm, ok.
[12:00] <NoUse> rapha I forget, can you run apt-get?
[12:00] <bbrazil> Jemt: based on the number with the problem, driver issue
[12:00] <DarthMorlock> is any body out there?
[12:00] <Dial_tone> no
[12:00] <rixth> crimsun_, just let me know when is a good time for you
[12:01] <DarthMorlock> hello?
[12:01] <rapha> NoUse: yes, works fine
[12:01] <bbrazil> Jemt: for one or two essential pieces of software, you could always build your own .deb with the latest sources
[12:01] <NoUse> rapha apt-get --purge remove sudo && apt-get install sudo
[12:01] <DarthMorlock> may i speak to a mod plz?
[12:02] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Well, it's all taken care of. Time to reboot. See you soon!
[12:02] <rixth> !tell DarthMorlock about aolbonics
[12:02] <NoUse> DarthMorlock what do you need to speak to an op for?
[12:02] <Jemt> bbrazil: I guess that is true.
[12:02] <stevejesus> does anyone know how to change factory presets on a monitor?
[12:02] <yoshiznit123> !msg ubotu
[12:02] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, yoshiznit123
[12:02] <DarthMorlock> i have a very simple qustion to ask
[12:02] <DarthMorlock> whats the diff between the livecd and the alternate cds?
[12:02] <NoUse> !justask
[12:02] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[12:02] <NoUse> DarthMorlock one is a live cd
[12:03] <rapha> NoUse: trying ...
[12:03] <NoUse> DarthMorlock one is a test mode cd
[12:03] <joemauch> can anyone confirm XGL works with ATi x1000 series cards?
[12:03] <stevejesus> mine is locked at 1280, 1024 but can do 1600, 1200
[12:03] <DarthMorlock> i just did 15 times already
[12:03] <bbrazil> stevejesus: check your monitor manual
[12:03] <Dial_tone> you needed a mod for that?
[12:03] <crimsun_> draconius: the live cd has only a graphical installer; the alternate has only a text-based installer
[12:03] <crimsun_> draconius: sorry
[12:03] <ThrAnCh> :D
[12:03] <crimsun_> DarthMorlock: the live cd has only a graphical installer; the alternate has only a text-based installer
[12:03] <NoUse> DarthMorlock text* mode
[12:03] <stevejesus> bbrazil, lol.  i dont have one.  it is used,  i am poor.  got a trinitron for 10 dollars today.
[12:03] <bbrazil> Jemt: what I'd try is not loading th ati driver at all
[12:03] <Jemt> bbrazil: Well, thanks for your help. I'll move on to Gentoo tomorrow - and if that dosn't work, I'll move back to Breezy. Hopefully, they have fixed the bug in a couple of months. I had serious problems moving from Hoary to Breezy as well. It just seems that Ubuntu is not worth upgrading untill several months after a new release
[12:03] <DarthMorlock> thanks crimsun apprecat it
[12:03] <laervian> hi everyone
[12:03] <bbrazil> stevejesus: search the web, you should find one online
[12:03] <quux> One more shot- Dapper, default install, sitting at desktop without user invoking any apps, would use approximately how much RAM?
[12:04] <crimsun_> DarthMorlock: and FWIW, you totally didn't need an op for that. It's described on the download page. :)
[12:04] <Jemt> bbrazil: Well, the ATI drivers is not loaded when I'm using the VESA driver, right?
[12:04] <bbrazil> Jemt: it's generally good advice to wait a bit after any release
[12:04] <bbrazil> Jemt: no, it's still loaded in the kernel, just not used
[12:04] <stevejesus> bbrazil, been looking.  will continue to search.  was hoping to find someone knowledgable on the topic.
[12:04] <DarthMorlock> it wasnt described on the download page
[12:04] <Jemt> bbrazil: Yea
[12:04] <bbrazil> stevejesus: mash the buttons?
[12:04] <DarthMorlock> thats why i came here
[12:04] <Jemt> bbrazil: Oh, I see
[12:04] <stevejesus> bbrazil, searching on the web is obvious.  if you dont know, i will accept that just as well
[12:04] <laervian> does anyone here have installed many DE at the same time?
[12:05] <DarthMorlock> nm
[12:05] <Jemt> bbrazil: Well, I actually think I'll take your advise, and downgrade to Breezy first then.  We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[12:05] <Toba> argh
[12:05] <Toba> any gpg gurus in here?
[12:05] <quux> void^: *excellent!, and thank you from the bottom of my black and flabby little heart
[12:05] <Toba> gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available
[12:05] <Toba> gpg: signing failed: secret key not available
[12:05] <Anarchy> how did ubuntu manage to flip the key press for vol{up|down}
[12:06] <Toba> what does that even MEAN
[12:06] <bbrazil> Toba: your secret key is missing
[12:06] <bbrazil> Toba: check ~/.gnupg
[12:06] <Toba> ...but gpg --list-keys shows that I have it
[12:06] <bbrazil> Toba: what about --list-secret-keys (?)
[12:06] <NoUse> rapha any luck?
[12:06] <Toba> yeah, it's there
[12:06] <rapha> NoUse: sorry, it's still working...
[12:06] <rapha> NoUse: I'll tell you :)
[12:07] <Toba> expires in 2011
[12:07] <NoUse> rapha really? it probably shouldn't take that long
[12:07] <bbrazil> Toba: okay, you must be trying to sign it with a different key
[12:07] <Toba> ...what
[12:07] <rapha> NoUse: it removed about a dozen packages
[12:07] <quux> void^: can I prevail to ask aproximately how much hard disk (ex. swap partition) was used?
[12:07] <bbrazil> Toba: what app are you using gpg from?
[12:07] <Toba> well I did revoke my old key
[12:07] <NoUse> rapha ah
[12:07] <Toba> I'm using it command line
[12:07] <Toba> nothing else
[12:07] <stevejesus> bbrazil, ok, well here is an ubuntu problam.  ubuntu generally overides preset information provided it is given the correct sync ranges.  was able to do 1600x1200 in hoary, but using nv driver or nvidia, but every since dapper i havent been able to do 1600x1200 period.
[12:07] <rapha> NoUse: okay, done now.
[12:08] <NoUse> rapha ok test out sudo
[12:08] <stevejesus> bbrazil, any ideas?
[12:08] <rapha> NoUse: the error is still there
[12:08] <bbrazil> Toba: okay, this is pushing my knowledge. There's a --default-key arg or similar
[12:08] <laervian> has anyone else had roblems with greeter?
[12:08] <stevejesus> bbrazil, well, i should say xorg overrides preset info, not ubuntu
[12:08] <BHSPitMonkey> anyone with an ipw2200 wireless card in here?
[12:08] <dayspring> has anyone here ever compiled clamscan?
[12:08] <NoUse> rapha I have no idea, the only other thing I can think of is the file system is corrupt
[12:08] <b14ck> can i convert fat32 to linux filesystem without loosing data?
[12:08] <bbrazil> stevejesus: you done a reconfig on xorg and set 1600x1200?
[12:08] <stevejesus> bbrazil, its not the version of xorg however as i am able to achieve 1600x1200 in fedora no motter what
[12:08] <NoUse> b14ck no
[12:09] <void^> quux: no swap in use after a clean boot.. hd usage is something between 1.5 and 2gb.. i'm not on that box atm.
[12:09] <stevejesus> bbrazil, yes.
[12:09] <rapha> NoUse: kay thx. Then I'll reiserfsck it and when that doesn't work I'll try out the alternate install CD.
[12:09] <NoUse> rapha ok, good luck
[12:09] <quux> void: good enough, and thanks again
[12:09] <bbrazil> stevejesus: and set appropriate monitor settings too?
[12:09] <b14ck> NoUse:  ok atleast repartition freespace then format to linux ext
[12:09] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Alright. Sound works, for the most part, it seems. What do I do now?
[12:09] <stevejesus> bbrazil, dapper dousnt even automatically detect my monitors at all when i run the reconfigure x script.  i have to give my own identifier and set the ranges my hand
[12:09] <Jeruvy> if /etc/network/interfaces shows eth0 on a inet, why does it ifup in inet6 ??
[12:09] <NoUse> b14ck yes
[12:09] <rapha> Thx NoUse :)
[12:09] <NoUse> b14ck gparted
[12:09] <Dial_tone> can you expand / by booting from cd and running something? I have more swap than I need.
[12:10] <b14ck> NoUse:  ty
[12:10] <bbrazil> stevejesus: maybe just grab the modelines from fedora?
[12:10] <stevejesus> bbrazil, and all my monitors are common
[12:10] <Draconicus> Again, I must ask if the "copy remaining packages to hard disk" step in the Breezy installation is vital. Is it?
[12:10] <stevejesus> bbrazil, i backed up my xorg.conf from fedora, used it as a whole, and even copied buts and pieces from it where nessesary after running a reconfigure.  still no dice
[12:11] <b14ck> NoUse:  so if i create another partition won't my grub have boot problems?
[12:11] <NoUse> b14ck shouldn't
[12:11] <b14ck> NoUse: k
[12:11] <NoUse> if you currenctly have 4 paritions, they will still be 1-4 and the one will be 5
[12:11] <ape_> hello
[12:12] <bbrazil> stevejesus: that's odd. maybe it's differnet versions of xorg that don't like playing around with things that your monitor doesn't want to do?
[12:12] <FlimFlamMan> i'm installing ubuntu on an existing debian-stable install.  any reason to not use the same /home partition for both?
[12:12] <bbrazil> FlimFlamMan: should be okay
[12:12] <bbrazil> FlimFlamMan: you can share swap safely too
[12:12] <FlimFlamMan> cool, thanks
[12:12] <stevejesus> bbrazil, fc5 and ubuntu both run xorg 7.  hoary and breezy both ran similiar enough versions of xorg 6 and still the same issue.
[12:13] <Scorpmoon> that kernel update ruined my monitor options
[12:13] <Draconicus> crimsun_: *poke*
[12:13] <Scorpmoon> now I'm stuck
[12:13] <bbrazil> stevejesus: exact same versions and patches?
[12:13] <FlimFlamMan> ok, here goes.  hopefully i'll be back
[12:14] <stevejesus> bbrazil, i was however able to achieve 1600x1200 in ubuntu flight 4-7.  i backed up that config too as i was exstatic that it worked!
[12:14] <moonlite> i need to reinstall my server, but when i downloaded the ubuntu server iso i realized i had no empty cd's to record it on.
[12:14] <Draconicus> crimsun_: XMMS still won't output through ALSA correctly.
[12:14] <Blissex> moonlite: 'deboostrap' might help.
[12:14] <moonlite> i only have some old desktop dapper flight 4 or something. Is it possible to install dapper anyway?
[12:15] <moonlite> Blissex: hm ok?
[12:15] <bbrazil> stevejesus: that narrows down the search a bit then. Grab an older xorg package and try that
[12:15] <eobanb> moonlite, yeah, just do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:15] <Anarchy> so where do the ubuntu devs gather
[12:15] <crimsun_> Draconicus: pastebin ``amixer''
[12:15] <stevejesus> bbrazil, bbrazil, of course not the exact same versions and patches...  they are close enough that they can use the same config!!
[12:15] <Blissex> moonlite: or install the previous version and upgrade, after 'apt-cdrom'ing the new version, after mounting it as 'loop'
[12:15] <ManiacWork> damnit.
[12:15] <crimsun_> Anarchy: in -devel, but please don't spew $random. We're extremely busy.
[12:15] <calisee> does anyone have a samsung 712n where they can't adjust width from the monitor menu?
[12:15] <bbrazil> stevejesus: samba 3 can use a samba 2 config
[12:16] <ManiacWork> the new sparc ubuntu server only supports the niagra stuff
[12:16] <Anarchy> crimsun_, think us gentoo devs are not busy
[12:16] <Anarchy> :)
[12:16] <Cin> crimsun_, that's nice to hear.
[12:16] <stevejesus> bbrazil, ok...  my point exactly...
[12:16] <calisee> does anyone have a samsung 712n where they can't adjust width from the monitor menu? my ubuntu desktop has an inch margin on the right side and the bottom is cut off a little too.  this is on my external monitor from my laptop
[12:16] <Anarchy> we been informed about how you all have managed to flip the input/output of volume keys on laptops but are unable to find out how you all did it
[12:16] <stevejesus> calisee, use the controls on the monitor
[12:16] <calisee> stevejesus: i did, there is no width adjustment
[12:16] <bbrazil> stevejesus: configs are one of the slower things to change, but if you can get an older version working and compare the code you should be able to figure out what's going on and get it fixed
[12:17] <Draconicus> crimsun_: If I go through eSound, which I assume is esd, XMMS works.
[12:17] <b14ck> NoUse:  ok i got gparted. where do i start it from?
[12:17] <crimsun_> Anarchy: look in acpi-support
[12:17] <Cin> crimsun_, I tried Gentoo's liveCD on my laptop like an hour ago. Got my nic working, then it stopped working. Then I got bored, too tired. Think I'll do a bit of reading and try a full install.
[12:17] <Anarchy> not done via acpi
[12:18] <Cin> Uhm.
[12:18] <Cin> crimsun_, wrong person.
[12:18] <moonlite> Blissex: ah. neat. thanks
[12:18] <Cin> Anarchy, I meant.
[12:18] <stevejesus> bbrazil, yeah.  was afraid of that.  its beginning to not become worth it.  so much for my highres xinerama spread.  already had the 3 monitor config shot out of the sky because the nvidia driver doesnt like the 2 geforces i have together.
[12:18] <crimsun_> Anarchy: it's not "flipped" elsewhere
[12:18] <crimsun_> Anarchy: unless your wording has completely thrown me for a loop?
[12:18] <Anarchy> if I was to open xev and press vol up key
[12:19] <Anarchy> we get nothing but key press no key release right now
[12:19] <Anarchy> http://notebookanalysis.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=498&start=30
[12:19] <Anarchy> might be a better understanding
[12:19] <tenzin_> Since some time I cant start amule...the console gives only this as output: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1623/ somebody can help?
[12:19] <Drake_> when you ssh into a box and it says "You have new mail" where is that actually being stored/sent if you don't have a mail server set up on that box?
[12:20] <Cin> Anarchy, is Gentoo at all based on LFS?
[12:20] <DarkRaven> i have a problem, adept updated my kernel to the new version, and now i can't boot x because it says that kernel doesn't have the nvidia module. (i installed the module via module-assistant but nothing) someone can help me?
[12:20] <stevejesus> anyone here have issues doing 1600x1200 with any common dell 17inch monitors that are completely capable of it?
[12:20] <Dyslexic> Is there a way to set the default program used to open files?
[12:20] <Cin> stevejesus... what's the max you can go?
[12:20] <Anarchy> Cin, if you concider building your entire system from source then yes
[12:21] <Cin> Dyslexic, sure is. On KDE and GNOME.
[12:21] <Anarchy> we just make it a bit easier with ebuilds to handle all the BS for ya
[12:21] <Tommy2k4> you need to edit xorg.conf or whatever its called
[12:21] <Dyslexic> Gnome
[12:21] <stevejesus> Cin, 1600x1200 with both of my dell monitors.  able to do so in windows and fedora.
[12:21] <[Wiebel] > grmbl
[12:21] <Draconicus> crimsun_: To cover all bases, the latest kernel was not installed by the update manager, along with a number of other packages, because some packages would have to be removed. I haven't bothered to go through Synaptic to update them, yet. Do you think this could be at all related?
[12:21] <[Wiebel] > is there any way of disabling find-as-you-type in gnome?
[12:21] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Here you go: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~thehap/glitch/amixer
[12:21] <stevejesus> Cin, but wont happen in ubuntu since hoary
[12:21] <Cin> Anarchy, aye, that sounds good. I was interested in LFS. Then realised I'd need to know more, and think Gentoo'll probably help out learning more about Linux?
[12:21] <Tommy2k4> stevejesus: you need to edit xorg.conf
[12:22] <walker_> I have just loaded Ubuntu on my computer. Can anyone tell me ho I can I can find my slave hard drive that is not showing up on my file system?
[12:22] <Anarchy> Cin, it will if you make use of the expierence
[12:22] <Anarchy> right now I am still fighting seamonkey which we plan to replace mozilla with
[12:22] <Anarchy> :(
[12:22] <Drake_> Cin there is a huge learning curve for Gentoo but you learn a lot about what is going on under the hood so to speak
[12:22] <Draconicus> Cin: Gentoo will give you a good understanding of the compiling process, and it'll boost your patience, too, unless you have none to begin with. I wouldn't recommend Gentoo if you want things installed right away, as compiling requires a bit of a wait on average machines
[12:22] <stevejesus> Tommy2k4, seriously, i have been wrestling with it for quite sometime.  i still have my xorg.conf backups from hoary.  i have one from fedora.  i am very familiar with that file.
[12:23] <crimsun_> Draconicus: no. Nothing touched emu10k1 between 23->25 (only emux synth stuff, but that's not relevant here)
[12:23] <Anarchy> but yes I am the mozilla herd I handle everything from firefox/thunderbird/mozilla/xulrunner/enigmail and such
[12:23] <b14ck> what's the unmount command :P
[12:23] <Anarchy> umount
[12:23] <Tommy2k4> so whats the problem then
[12:23] <stevejesus> Tommy2k4, i keep xorg.conf from every configuration i have ever had as a point of reference.
[12:23] <b14ck> doesn't work
[12:23] <dayspring> I just typed "sudo ./configure" and "make install"!  but now what do I do?
[12:23] <DarkRaven> i have a problem, adept updated my kernel to the new version, and now i can't boot x because it says that kernel doesn't have the nvidia module. (i installed the module via module-assistant but nothing) someone can help me?
[12:23] <Anarchy> b14ck, umount -f
[12:23] <b14ck> sudo: unmount: command not found
[12:23] <wastrel> what's adept
[12:24] <Anarchy> umount
[12:24] <DarkRaven> adept is automatic update
[12:24] <b14ck> ooo
[12:24] <Anarchy> not unmount
[12:24] <BHSPitLappy> hi all
[12:24] <DarkRaven> lol
[12:24] <b14ck> ic thanx
[12:24] <Cin> Drake_, aye that's what I'm interested in. And Draconicus, I figured as much, so I'll be trying it on a box seperate to my (most used) desktop computer, so I can leave it going and chill. =]
[12:24] <b14ck> Anarchy: ty
[12:24] <stevejesus> Tommy2k4, whats the problem?  it wont work in ubuntu breezy or dapper.  will work in hoary hedgehog and fc5.  and windows has no [problem with that res either
[12:24] <Draconicus> Cin: Ah. Good show.
[12:24] <salah> hi. is there any video converters for linux avalaible?
[12:24] <BHSPitLappy> ipw2200 JUST isn't being detected out-of-box as it should! what can I do?
[12:24] <Tommy2k4> oh well i got it working straight away by adding my v/h refresh rates and the extra resolutions to that file in kubuntu dapper
[12:24] <Cin> Draconicus, hehe.
[12:24] <Anarchy> Cin, what type of machine is it
[12:24] <stevejesus> Tommy2k4, thats why i am looking for people with similiar experiences
[12:24] <Drake_> b14ck: umount
[12:24] <DarkRaven> wha't the command to see loaded kernel modules????
[12:24] <Anarchy> lsmod
[12:24] <crimsun_> Draconicus: xmms is audible via its esd output but not through its alsa output?
[12:24] <stevejesus> Tommy2k4, unless you have a suggestion to offer.
[12:25] <Cin> Anarchy, 1Ghz 512Mb of RAM (HP laptop).
[12:25] <Anarchy> Cin, athlon proc
[12:25] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Hmm... You inspired me to test my synth stuff. pmidi can't connect to port 65:0 on my Soundblaster. It looks like the wavetables moved. Why is that?
[12:25] <Cin> Anarchy, ney Intel.
[12:25] <Anarchy> can not help ya hehe
[12:25] <DarkRaven> anarchy how to show up slowly? (i'm using console on the other pc)
[12:25] <Cin> Anarchy, hehe.
[12:25] <Anarchy> I have most stage tarballs all optimized but do not do intel
[12:25] <b14ck> Drake_:  tx :D
[12:25] <Anarchy> lsmod | less
[12:25] <crimsun_> Draconicus: "42". I'm a bit busy to be running off looking at emux atm.
[12:26] <stevejesus> Tommy2k4, i assume not.
[12:26] <Draconicus> crimsun_: If the eSound plugin is ESD, then yes.
[12:26] <Tommy2k4> nope
[12:26] <Draconicus> crimsun_: 81, actually.
[12:26] <crimsun_> Draconicus: Is ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' audible?
[12:26] <Cin> Ubuntu's my first Linux. Although I love it, my nerd side wants to get under the hood and fiddle.
[12:26] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Yep.
[12:26] <amittp> are there any issues with nvidia driver for breazy? I have geforce4 crd. Installed nvidia driver as per docs, but not able to sety nvidia as driver in my xorg.conf file
[12:27] <amittp> any ideaS?
[12:27] <crimsun_> Draconicus: beautiful, then it has to be an XMMS config issue.
[12:27] <keNzi> hi guys
[12:27] <crimsun_> Draconicus: what is the alsa output plugin's config set to?
[12:27] <Draconicus> crimsun_: When GDM started, it played no sound. splay can't play anything, eitehr.
[12:27] <Draconicus> either*
[12:27] <keNzi> anyone can tell me where i can download Kernel-Source-2-6.15-20 for ubuntu ?
[12:27] <DarkRaven> uhmmmm the nvidia modules does not seem to be loaded but module-assistant says that it's already installed.... and he is present in /etc/modules
[12:27] <Anarchy> Cin, my first distro was slackware back in '93
[12:27] <stevejesus> amittp, go to your dile, and change "driver" field to "nvidia"
[12:27] <stevejesus> amittp, xorg.conf*
[12:27] <dayspring> hi
[12:28] <stevejesus> amittp, hit control alt backspace.
[12:28] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Aha! It was set to the nForce audio.
[12:28] <DarkRaven> stevejesus already done
[12:28] <stevejesus> amittp, you should see nvidia logo
[12:28] <DarkRaven> is a problem relative to new kernel
[12:28] <Cin> Anarchy, hehe, most people I know's was Slackware. (It was actually my first, but as a Windows user, I couldn't figure out how to install it. So I class Ubuntu as my first success Linux, haha)
[12:28] <ubuntu_> ?
[12:28] <Anarchy> yeah
[12:29] <logical_mark> hey guys. When I am typing and I am holding down the shift key and hit back space, I get logged out. How the hell do I turn this off?!
[12:29] <amittp> hmm, i tried all that, i dunno what is dile, i hand edited the file, although xserver cannot find screens
[12:29] <Anarchy> I went from slackware to gentoo in 99 been with gentoo every since
[12:29] <DarkRaven> how to load kernel modules?????
[12:29] <keNzi> anyone can tell me where i can download Kernel-Source-2-6.15-20 for ubuntu ?
[12:29] <kandinski> Can anyone help me with sound trouble? Quake2 sound is very choppy for me on Dapper on a Toshiba m200 (Intel 8x0 and ac97)
[12:29] <Anarchy> been a dev for them for over a year now :O
[12:29] <Cin> Win. :D
[12:29] <amittp> DarkRaven, lsmod
[12:29] <Draconicus> crimsun_: I'm now enjoying a remix of Popcorn through XMMS and ALSA. :)
[12:29] <Cin> Anarchy, what do you work on in Gentoo?
[12:29] <DarkRaven> amittp so a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:29] <troytroy> hi i was wondering how i could take up channel op automaically in my channel when i go offline and return; any ideas?
[12:29] <crimsun_> Draconicus: great.
[12:29] <Anarchy> mozilla products
[12:29] <wastrel> modprobe <3
[12:29] <Anarchy> qmail vpopmail
[12:29] <amittp> DarkRaven, thanks,
[12:29] <OSIndependence> Was there another attack?
[12:29] <Anarchy> relay-ctrl
[12:29] <Anarchy> lisp projects
[12:29] <DarkRaven> amittp lsmod is to the mod
[12:29] <Anarchy> amd64 and ppc archs
[12:29] <DarkRaven> not to load them
[12:29] <crimsun_> Draconicus: remember to revert your change to /etc/init.d/alsa-utils
[12:29] <Anarchy> list goes on and on hehe
[12:30] <Cin> Cool.
[12:30] <wastrel> DarkRaven:  modprobe
[12:30] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Do what, now?
[12:30] <DarkRaven> module nvidia not found -_-
[12:30] <DarkRaven> so module-assistant is drunk?
[12:30] <Cin> 64-bit, eh. Working towards the future. :P
[12:30] <crimsun_> Draconicus: remove the 'return 0' that you added.
[12:30] <amittp> DarkRaven, oh yeah sorry -- there goes -- as per wastrel
[12:30] <Anarchy> http://notebookanalysis.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=498&start=30
[12:30] <Anarchy> that is what I am currently working on :( but with no luck
[12:30] <wsjunior> hello. i need help with my ati card. i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx following the instructions of the wiki. after restart the system i cannot use gnome anymore unless i open the xorg.conf and comment the Load "dri
[12:31] <DarkRaven> is there another way to insert module in the kernel that is not module-assistant?
[12:31] <wastrel> i never heard of module-assistant
[12:31] <wastrel> use modprobe
[12:31] <RadiantFire> DarkRaven: modprobe is better
[12:31] <wastrel> modprobe is teh kewl
[12:31] <DarkRaven> how to install the nvidia?
[12:31] <Cin> Anarchy, that's nice.
[12:31] <logical_mark> hey guys. When I am typing and I am holding down the shift key and hit back space, I get logged out. How the hell do I turn this off?!
[12:31] <DarkRaven> if i type modprobe nvidia
[12:31] <DarkRaven> it says no nvidia module found
[12:31] <wastrel> logical_mark:  there's a fix on the fourm - search there babby
[12:32] <tenzin_> Since some time I cant start amule...the console gives only this as output: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1623/ somebody can help?
[12:32] <yoshiznit123> logical_mark: type xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us (change for different language)
[12:32] <Cin> logical_mark, are you on Xgl?
[12:32] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Ah. Right. Done. Let me do a couple more tests just to make sure everything's set.
[12:32] <logical_mark> Cin, yes I am on XGL
[12:32] <Cin> Nice. :D
[12:32] <ubuntu_> hi, im new in linux where i can find some good tutorial o manual to get into the world of Linux?
[12:32] <wsjunior> hello. i need help with my ati card. i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx following the instructions of the wiki. after restart the system i cannot use gnome anymore unless i open the xorg.conf and comment the Load "dri" line. i can see the gdm login screen and after inserting my login and password the system stops at gnome splash screen and i can do nothing. what could be happening?
[12:33] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Splay can't play things.
[12:33] <Cin> ubuntu_, are you running Ubuntu right now?
[12:33] <tristanmike> logical_mark: http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=1199
[12:33] <ubuntu_> yes
[12:33] <yoshiznit123> wsjunior, whats your card?
[12:33] <ubuntu_> the live cd...
[12:33] <DarkRaven> who can help  me?
[12:33] <Cin> ubuntu_, how are you finding it
[12:33] <crimsun_> Draconicus: does splay use /dev/dsp exclusively? If so, it's sending output to your primary card0, which is the nforce (snd_intel8x0)
[12:33] <Cin> ?
[12:33] <ubuntu_> jeje i'm just checking
[12:33] <Draconicus> crimsun_: How can I remap card0?
[12:34] <Cin> Sweet.
[12:34] <amittp> DarkRaven, maybe check this pout -- old post but http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=374484
[12:34] <ubuntu_> i found it whit a friend
[12:34] <amittp> i am gonna try that myself
[12:34] <crimsun_> Draconicus: see the dsp & adsp parameters to snd_pcm_oss
[12:34] <wsjunior> yoshiznit123: 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)
[12:34] <tb77> DarkRaven: what's your problem?
[12:34] <tristanmike> Cin: xgl Rocks wicked bad
[12:34] <yoshiznit123> wsjunior, hmm i dont' know
[12:34] <Draconicus> crimsun_: How do I do that?
[12:34] <Anarchy> ubuntu_, start with tldp.org
[12:34] <green_earz> ubuntu_: check out the link for intro in to linux world > http://www.linux.org/
[12:35] <tristanmike> Cin: sorry, wrong person
[12:35] <Cin> tristanmike, aye. I'm loving the refresh and such. No flickering at all.
[12:35] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Pardon my lack of thinking.
[12:35] <wsjunior> hello. i need help with my ati card. i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx following the instructions of the wiki. after restart the system i cannot use gnome anymore unless i open the xorg.conf and comment the Load "dri" line. i can see the gdm login screen and after inserting my login and password the system stops at gnome splash screen and i can do nothing. what could be happening? could anybody help me? my card is: 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible con
[12:35] <Cin> tristanmike, do you know if they'll fix the slow resizing...?
[12:35] <crimsun_> Draconicus: unload snd_pcm_oss and reload it, passing the correct card index (from /proc/asound/cards) to modprobe
[12:35] <zOap> in ubuntu the firefox icon is redirected to ubuntu. I want it to be redirected to mozilla. How do I change that?
[12:35] <amarokker> can someone please see if my FTP server works?
[12:35] <tristanmike> Cin:  slow resizing ?
[12:36] <ubuntu_> ok, tnk you Anarchy,green_earz...  ---- and which version of linux do you think i must try... i'm a principiant, jeje
[12:36] <amarokker> open: ftp://g0dchild.mooo.com
[12:36] <Cin> tristanmike, a few people have had it. Maybe it's just our old(ish) graphics cards.
[12:36] <amarokker> hello Snowfairy:)
[12:36] <teckfatt> amarokker: ok post the link here
[12:36] <mz2> i'm having strange issues with gnome-panel
[12:36] <zOap> amarokker,
[12:36] <Snowfairy> HI amarokker, how's it going? :)
[12:36] <tristanmike> Cin: you mean when you minimize it's slow ?
[12:36] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Err... Is it a module? I'm a little confused. If so, I forgot how to unload modules..
[12:36] <amarokker> Am, fine, nice to see you in here :)
[12:36] <Cin> tristanmike, yeah.
[12:36] <mz2> it just sort of dies every now and then. and when i try killing it, it doesn't load the applets and the menus won't work
[12:36] <Anarchy> ubuntu_, stay away from gentoo :) it is for advanced users more then anything
[12:37] <teckfatt> amarokker: it not work
[12:37] <Cin> ubuntu_, I think Ubuntu is perfect for beginner. Don't want to over-do it. :P
[12:37] <tristanmike> Cin: hmmm, I only have a GeforceFX5200 and mine is too fast :P
[12:37] <Snowfairy> amarokker, I try to hang around... I'm not a whole horde of help yet... but I've gotten so much help here, I try to give back ;0
[12:37] <tristanmike> Cin: there is an option to change speed
[12:37] <Cin> tristanmike, mine's a GeForce MX 440.
[12:37] <amarokker> teckfatt: oh fooey.
[12:37] <mz2> even logging out from my session, restarting gdm and logging back in won't wake it up once that happens
[12:37] <crimsun_> Draconicus: yes, it's a module. modprobe -r unloads; modprobe loads.
[12:37] <Cin> tristanmike, hm, where?
[12:37] <zOap> amarokker, It just hangs
[12:37] <rupert> i'm trying to get ndiswrapper working on a fresh install of dapper amd64. the dmesg says unkown symbol dma_ops when i try to modprobe it. google comes back with nothing, what's up?
[12:38] <Cin> Tristam, it's weird, it's like, EVERYTHING is uber fast, I can wobble maximised windows no problem, but resizing is sluggish? o.o
[12:38] <tristanmike> Cin: hmmm, I came across it somewhere, I slowed it down but it was too slow so I kept what I have now, lemme see if I can find again
[12:38] <amarokker> Snowfairy: thats how it works, i try to help however little I can- and when the linux-gurus dance, I just sit and drool.
[12:38] <teckfatt> amarokker: why not workin? are u 1st time setup ftp?
[12:38] <mz2> only thing i've found does work is if i go to a runmode which essentially kills all processes running and then go back to 5 and relogin. strange
[12:38] <Cin> o.o
[12:38] <tristanmike> Cin: resizing is a little sluggish here to, hmmm, never noticed, I thought you meant minimize, don't ask me why I thought that :P
[12:39] <amarokker> zOap: yeah, wait till I paste the .conf file-  teckfatt: i dont know- someone said it could be routers and firewalls
[12:39] <amarokker> dont have any
[12:39] <green_earz> ubuntu_: i would say go for debian or ubuntu. but use a spare machine to get use to the install process and the system
[12:39] <zOap> rupert, how did you install ndis?
[12:39] <yoshiznit123> cin: it's a known bug for compiz i think
[12:39] <Cin> yoshiznit123, ahhh. I hope so. Wouldn't want it to be my graphics card's speed.
[12:39] <zOap> amarokker, ok, I'll hang around here
[12:39] <amarokker> and sometimes, there's a msg saying 'no route to host'- another person from #amarok suggested that it might have been my ISP- so i am going around circles right now.
[12:39] <teckfatt> amarokker: what brand of router are u using?
[12:39] <Warbo> Hi, does anyone know why my floppy drive won't mount? The light flashes but nobody's home
[12:40] <ubuntu_> Well i tnk that i will be try to be more inside the linux world... tnk yo for u opinions
[12:40] <rupert> z0ap, off of source forge, compiled it and installed it
[12:40] <amarokker> teckfatt: no router- thats the problem, i'll post my /etc/network/interfaces and vsftpd.conf file. brb
[12:40] <squiggly> sudo rm -rf /
[12:40] <irc1324> anyone knows where the default value (after boot) of /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu{0,1}/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq comes from? For me, it's 1333000 and I have to manually set it to 1833000, which is annoying. What is the recommended way to fix this?
[12:40] <zOap> hey squiggly
[12:40] <zOap> :)
[12:40] <Warbo> Nobody do use that command!
[12:41] <teckfatt> amarokker: have u install any firewall software?
[12:41] <squiggly> who are you z0ap
[12:41] <Warbo> squiggly: There are n00bs in here
[12:41] <zOap> squiggly, I'm nobody
[12:41] <squiggly> guess i should tone down then
[12:41] <wsjunior> hello. i need help with my ati card. i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx following the instructions of the wiki. after restart the system i cannot use gnome anymore unless i open the xorg.conf and comment the Load "dri" line. i can see the gdm login screen and after inserting my login and password the system stops at gnome splash screen and i can do nothing. what could be happening?
[12:41] <squiggly> warbo, your drive is probably broken
[12:41] <amarokker> http://rafb.net/paste/results/WctyM498.html
[12:41] <Warbo> squiggly: Well, are all three?
[12:41] <squiggly> it should be automounted by ubuntu anyway
[12:41] <squiggly> i haven't been on ubuntu for a while, but...
[12:42] <amarokker> teckfatt: no, not that I know off- just to make sure, i checked through synaptic- none of the firewalls i know about are installed
[12:42] <squiggly> try mountall
[12:42] <Cin> Hm, my programs have stopped opening.
[12:42] <Warbo> squiggly: Funny that, but my Dad's system doesn't even load the floppy module by default (but his drive mounts fine)
[12:42] <Cin> What does that command do, squiggly?
[12:42] <squiggly> cin: it turns your hard drive into an oven and bakes you cookies
[12:42] <amarokker> although i think the network devices might be causing the problem, i have two network interfaces- one physical (on board LAN - eth0) and another device created by my ADSL eagle-usb modem (eth1)-
[12:43] <Cin> squiggly, I thought something smelled good.
[12:43] <dayspring> I just compiled and installed clamscan! How can I restart this service witrhout rebooting pls?
[12:43] <B1zz> oooo what commad is that!
[12:43] <amarokker> i dont know how i am supposed to configure those.
[12:43] <dayspring> any ideas?
[12:43] <squiggly> dayspring you shouldn't need to reboot
[12:43] <amarokker> wait- can clamav cause this problem? its not a firewall...but just to make sure.
[12:43] <Cin> amarokker, you're on a router?
[12:44] <tobberoth> How do I do so my ipod is automatically mounted to, for example, /media/ipod every time it's inserted?
[12:44] <Warbo> dayspring: Have a look in /etc/init.d for something to do with clamav/clamscan and then do "sudo /etc/init.d/whateveryoufound restart"
[12:44] <amarokker> Cin: no, no- ADSL modem directly connected to the telephone line
[12:44] <teckfatt> amarokker: just wonder are u using the proftpd?
[12:44] <Cin> amarokker, oh, I dunno that.
[12:44] <amarokker> teckfatt: no luck with that either, now am using vsftpd
[12:44] <Warbo> tobberoth: Doesn't it do that already? (In GNOME?)
[12:44] <troytroy> hi i was wondering how i could take up channel op automaically in my channel when i go offline and return; any ideas?
[12:45] <tobberoth> Warbo, I'm in KDE at the moment
[12:45] <rupert> i'm trying to get ndiswrapper working on a fresh install of dapper amd64. the dmesg says unkown symbol dma_ops when i try to modprobe it. google comes back with nothing, what's up?
[12:45] <Warbo> tobberoth: I would guess KDE is very similar in that respect but I'm not sure
[12:45] <Cin> tobberoth, hmm something about naming the drive. I've named mine as 'RD' (removable drive) and it mounts as that every time. Lemmie look something up, interesting is that.
[12:46] <tobberoth> Cin: Yeah, it mounts right now as sdg1
[12:46] <tobberoth> I have an ipod folder in the /media though, but it doesn't mount it there
[12:47] <glennus> !ipod
[12:47] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[12:47] <teckfatt> amarokker: u can try ssh
[12:47] <Cin> glennus, nice one glennus.
[12:47] <glennus> Cin: uh... thanks :)
[12:47] <Cin> :P
[12:48] <Cin> Hm, wonder why the wiki is secured?
[12:48] <tobberoth> glennus: That doesn't help. My whole problem is that amarok crashes because it won't find my ipod properly.
[12:48] <tobberoth> I'm using amarok 1.4 BTW
[12:48] <Scorpmoon> one day I'll install linux for my parents... but there's a long way to go before that happens, in terms of useability...
[12:49] <Anarchy> well have fun back to getnoo development I go
[12:49] <Stroganoff> http://krunch.servebeer.com/~krunch/vrac/pics/ubuntu-logo.jpg
[12:49] <Cin> Stroganoff, funnily enough I saw that same picture before, without the Ubuntu logo... >.>
[12:50] <lilminimey0> hi everyone
[12:50] <lilminimey0> has anyone got problem with java?
[12:50] <Warbo> !java
[12:50] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[12:50] <lilminimey0> i got two pc's running ubuntu in the house, suddenly, both seemd to crash while running openoffice
[12:50] <glennus> tobberoth: sorry, I actually wasn't paying attention to what's going on, i just wanted the link for a friend here in the room with me who was asking about ipod.
[12:50] <lilminimey0> i get this
[12:51] <glennus> hence my confusion, Cin.
[12:51] <lilminimey0> [Java framework]  Error in function createUserSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).javaldx failed!
[12:51] <lilminimey0> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException'
[12:51] <lilminimey0> /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice: line 233:  8385 Avbrutt (SIGABRT)       "$sd_prog/$sd_binary" "$@"
[12:51] <lilminimey0> ** (process:8370): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ...
[12:51] <tobberoth> I could of course name my device ipod, but that's kind of an ugly hax, right=
[12:51] <lilminimey0> anyone seen this before?
[12:51] <tobberoth> Seems to me it should see it's an ipod by itself.
[12:52] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Sorry about the delay. The module has been unloaded and reloaded. Now what?
[12:52] <Warbo> lilminimey0: Have you tried using a different Java VM?
[12:52] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[12:52] <crimsun_> Draconicus: you were supposed to pass a parameter to modprobe (upon loading)
[12:52] <lilminimey0> Warbo: no, but the wierd is that it have been working for days
[12:52] <[Wiebel] > if you configure cups to detect  lan printers
[12:52] <lilminimey0> but it seems like after a update it wont work any longer
[12:52] <[Wiebel] > how should the cups server be configured
[12:52] <Warbo> lilminimey0: Have you just installed an update or something?
[12:52] <[Wiebel] > so it broadcasts its printers
[12:52] <lilminimey0> ive installed ubuntu for my fathers in his pc, and he has been happy
[12:52] <Warbo> lilminimey0: Ah, you did
[12:52] <lilminimey0> but he is a leder on a big company
[12:52] <ericmoritz\0> hi, gnome-system-moniter is reporting Xorg between 62% - 100% cpu usage sitting idle.  Does anyone know what could cause that?
[12:53] <lilminimey0> an need openoffice
[12:53] <rixxon> i want to share files with cell phones over IR. i've gotten as far as getting irdadump to show "20:03:02.265707 xid:rsp 8b0d3aed < 00004f16 S=6 s=3 Nokia 3200 hint=b125 [ PnP Modem Fax Telephony IrCOMM IrOBEX ]  (27)" when my cell phone is in front of my ir port... but how to start exchange files?
[12:53] <lilminimey0> In his work he is depending on openoffice
[12:53] <lilminimey0> thats why this is so chinky
[12:53] <BIAF> Archive Manager tells me rpm not supported, is there another tool supply'd with ubuntu for rpm
[12:53] <Tommy2k4> .deb
[12:53] <Warbo> BIAF: How about RPM?
[12:53] <wastrel> don't install rpms if you can avoid it
[12:53] <lilminimey0> does nobody else get error while launching openoffice?
[12:54] <Stroganoff> lilminimey0, install debian stable with sun-java and openoffice in vmware ^^
[12:54] <lilminimey0> I think it maybe caused by a update
[12:54] <BIAF> it was an rpm of WEBMIN
[12:54] <lilminimey0> Stroganoff: no, to many important documents
[12:54] <gizmo_the_great1> anyone know of some good troubleshooting commands for hardware (graphics particulrily) other than glxgears and glxinfo?
[12:54] <Stroganoff> lilminimey0, so?
[12:54] <gizmo_the_great1> my scvreen keeps flickering playing 3d games
[12:54] <lilminimey0> Stroganoff: I rather want to get this working
[12:54] <Warbo> BIAF: Use alien to convert it to a deb, but if you want to extract it then you could use rpm
[12:55] <lilminimey0> Stroganoff: i
[12:55] <BIAF> thx
[12:55] <lilminimey0> ve done a massive config in this ubuntu 6.06 lts version
[12:55] <Stroganoff> just in case you don't, this would be a temporal workaround
[12:55] <Madpilot> lilminimey0, I've got a fully updated Ubuntu install, and OOo opens just fine here....
[12:55] <Derailed> wow weird.... gaim as an IRC client....,
[12:55] <lilminimey0> Madpilot: any idea of what might be causing the p roblem?
[12:55] <lilminimey0> [Java framework]  Error in function createUserSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).javaldx failed!
[12:55] <lilminimey0> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException'
[12:55] <lilminimey0> /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice: line 233:  8385 Avbrutt (SIGABRT)       "$sd_prog/$sd_binary" "$@"
[12:55] <lilminimey0> ** (process:8370): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ...
[12:56] <lilminimey0> that is the error output
[12:56] <Drake_> I have persistent of logs on the 17th minute of every hour every day that seems to be done by cron but I am not sure where the cron job is and why it is neccesary of if it is neccessary ...Jun 16 16:17:01 drake CRON[21986] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0) Jun 16 16:17:01 drake CRON[21986] : (pam_unix) session closed for user root
[12:56] <Madpilot> lilminimey0, try re-installing OOo?
[12:56] <b14ck> i created a new partition using gparted but i can't mount it mount: can't find /dev/hda8 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:56] <Warbo> lilminimey0: What Java are you using?
[12:56] <lilminimey0> Warbo: blackdown
[12:56] <Madpilot> Warbo, afaik OOo ships with it's own version of Java, it doesn't care what else is on the system
[12:56] <Warbo> b14ck: You need to rebott after making a new partition (you don't HAVE to but it is the easiest way)
[12:56] <Warbo> Madpilot: Oh, OK
[12:56] <Drake_> how could I track down where that cron job is being called from and what is the reason for it?
[12:57] <b14ck> Warbo: i resized and formated and it told me about something being busy
[12:57] <Derailed> Hey guys, has anyone here experimented with Multiseat (two monitors, keyboards and mouses) with Dapper Drake?
[12:57] <b14ck> Warbo:  and i rebooted and i can see hda8 but i can't mount it
[12:57] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Oh. Sorry. Lemme backtrack.
[12:58] <nbjayme> i have replaced totem-gstreamer with totem-xine.  totem-xine crashes when loaded.... on xine-ui it says cannot find demux ?  what could be the problem?
[12:58] <lilminimey0> I think this whole situation is very sad:/
[12:58] <Warbo> b14ck: You need to make a filesystem on it. Choose your filesystem and do "sudo mkfs.<yourfilesystem> /dev/hda8"
[12:58] <Warbo> b14ck: What filesystem do you want it to use?
[12:58] <b14ck> warbo ext2 i guess
[12:59] <Draconicus> crimsun_: How do I 'send a pass' ?
[12:59] <b14ck> Warbo:  ext 2
[12:59] <b14ck> Warbo:  ok i think i got it now. i'll reboot
[12:59] <gizmo_the_great1> when i play 3d games, after about 10 minutes the screen goes black for a second then comes back flickering. It does it Windows too. I have tried swapping monitor - problem persist. any ideas?
[12:59] <Warbo> b14ck: Then just "sudo mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda8" (or use mke2fs instead of mkfs.ext2)
[12:59] <lilminimey0> Warbo: might it work if i reinstall j2re1.4 package?
[12:59] <Warbo> lilminimey0: Maybe, I'm not too sure on this
[12:59] <gnomefreak> anyone remember the refresh menu command?
[01:00] <lilminimey0> Warbo: its worth a trie:)
[01:00] <Stroganoff> lilminimey0, sudo dpkg-reconfigure openoffice.org2
[01:00] <gnomefreak> its menu-something :(
[01:00] <lilminimey0> Stroganoff: thanks, i'll trie taht:)
[01:00] <lilminimey0> *that
[01:00] <green_earz> Drake_: have a look at cat /etc/crontab and ls -l /etc | grep cron  to if you can track the cron job down
[01:00] <Warbo> AA! My floppy doesn't work and I need to transfer files to my Amiga. (This one doesn't have a CDROM or 3.5" HD support)
[01:01] <Warbo> I think my floppy drive is knackered because I get I/O errors in dmesg and it doesn't mount, but it happens to 3 different drives
[01:01] <roostishaw> anyone, what programing language would you reccomend for writing a simple script that gets pages off the web, and tests to see if certain pages exist?
[01:02] <Warbo> roostishaw: Bash, with wget
[01:02] <gnomefreak> wget :)
[01:02] <BIAF> warbo : amiga disks will be useful formated to fat12 720k disks, then linux / win can be used to transfer files to Amiga
[01:02] <roostishaw> Warbo, thats what its in now, i was hoping to convert it to a language that i could write a gui for, and compile it
[01:02] <wastrel> maybe boot with livecd or rescuecd and see if floppy drive works?
[01:02] <Warbo> BIAF: I have loads of fat32 720KB floppies but none of my PC floppy drives work
[01:02] <crimsun_> Draconicus: "send a pass"?
[01:02] <Snowfairy> When you install mpg123 and vorbis-tools, you get functionality that makes nautilus play mp3s when you hover the icon.... is there a way to make that work with .ogg files too?
[01:03] <BIAF> workbench 2.04 might not have the tool tho to see the contents
[01:03] <BIAF> 3.1 will
[01:03] <BIAF> pcdos
[01:03] <Warbo> roostishaw: You could probably make a GUI for it easiest in Python, and no compiling required
[01:03] <FlimFlamMan> ok.....  i don't know if this is a problem or not.  i'm installing dapper on an existing debian-stable system.  with the dapper installer, i deleted one partition and split it into two partitions.  now fdisk etlls me:  "Partition table entries are not in disk order".  and the new partitions come at the end, changing the partition numbers of the partitions that come after them physically on the disk.
[01:03] <Drake_> green_earz: I have four entries in /etc/crontab the first one is 17 *    * * *   root    run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly though I don't see what would cause it to spawn something that would create a Jun 16 18:17:01 drake CRON[21994] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0) in /var/log/auth.log
[01:03] <Stroganoff> lilminimey0, are u on ATI? try using the vesa driver, seriously
[01:03] <Warbo> BIAF: It's called CrossDOS and I am somewhat of an Amiga expert, but not PC :(
[01:04] <gizmo_the_great1> when i play 3d games, after about 10 minutes the screen goes black for a second then comes back flickering. It does it Windows too. I have tried swapping monitor - problem persist. any ideas?
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> Anyone have any ideas how to get xine to output through jackd ?
[01:04] <roostishaw> Warbo, ok... ill look into it, thank you!
[01:04] <Stroganoff> lilminimey0, Temporary fix: Add fglrx to restricted modules in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common.
[01:04] <Stroganoff> from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184507&page=2
[01:04] <b14ck> Warbo: still can't mount partition
[01:04] <BIAF> Warbo : but just format a disk in the amiga to 720k pc format, then it can be used to transfew files back n forwared
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> (I have it working fine through alsaplayer -o jack and xmms with the jack output)
[01:05] <Warbo> b14ck: What happens after you run mount and then "dmesg | tail"?
[01:05] <Warbo> BIAF: What? Even when all of my PC floppy drives make weird noises and don't mount? Wow, Linux really IS good!
[01:05] <larson9999> amiga: maybe i should dig mine out
[01:05] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Err... pass a parameter, rather. O_X
[01:06] <BIAF> :)
[01:06] <larson9999> linux is not only good. it rocks!!
[01:06] <b14ck> Warbo:  loads of bluetooth stuph and cdrom open failed
[01:06] <dayspring> larson9999: hello
[01:06] <wastrel> this linux thing interests me, i should check it out.
[01:06] <larson9999> dayspring: howdy
[01:06] <dayspring> larson9999: linux is good!  Ms wincrap is not
[01:06] <gizmo_the_great1> what does dmesg do, exactly?
[01:06] <dayspring> larson9999: :)
[01:06] <Warbo> b14ck: After you have just run mount for your hda8 partition?
[01:06] <FlimFlamMan> can anyone tell me if my disk is hosed?  with the dapper installer, i deleted one partition and split it into two partitions.  now fdisk says:  "Partition table entries are not in disk order".
[01:07] <wastrel> man dmesg
[01:07] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: yep
[01:07] <Warbo> gizmo_the_great1: It tells you the kernel's log
[01:07] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: its hosed
[01:07] <b14ck> warbo if i run sudo mount -rw /dev/hda8 i get mount: can't find /dev/hda8 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:07] <Warbo> gizmo_the_great1: tail cuts it down to the end (most recent)
[01:07] <FlimFlamMan> nice.
[01:07] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: yep
[01:07] <BIAF> warbo : create a network from ur amiga to your linux box
[01:08] <BIAF> hehe
[01:08] <FlimFlamMan> wtf is that?  how did that get into a release?
[01:08] <Warbo> b14ck: Aha! You need to give it a mountpoint on the command line, since it is not in /etc/fstab "sudo mount /dev/sda8 /mountpoint -rw"
[01:08] <jdmpike> so is everyone liking Dapper?
[01:08] <FlimFlamMan> no, it just trashed my drive.
[01:08] <dayspring> jdmpike: havent got it yet
[01:08] <b14ck> Warbo: k i'll try that thanx
[01:08] <jdmpike> dayspring, what are you waiting for?
[01:08] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: yep! get a new drive and try again
[01:09] <dayspring> jdmpike: waiting for the CD to arrive
[01:09] <jdmpike> dayspring, gotcha - you're going to love it
[01:09] <Warbo> BIAF: I've just remebered I have an Amiga CDROM drive in the other room!
[01:09] <dayspring> jdmpike: using a modem :)  will take 3 days to dl
[01:09] <FlimFlamMan> get a new 4-sata raid array and try again.  ok.
[01:09] <larson9999> jdmpike: i switched from mandrake(7 years or so with it) to dapper.  i'd say i like it better so far.  just a tad though.  i like mandriva
[01:09] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: yep! get that and try again
[01:09] <b14ck> Warbo: "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[01:09] <Warbo> larson9999: I hate Mandriva, always have. I don't know why I just do :)
[01:10] <jdmpike> dayspring, will you be able to download kernel upgrades?
[01:10] <dayspring> jdmpike: yes, np! they are only 36mb
[01:10] <dayspring> jdmpike: takes about 2 hours :)
[01:10] <jdmpike> dayspring, cool
[01:10] <Warbo> b14ck: OK then, "sudo mount /dev/hda8 /mountpoint -t ext2 -rw" (remember to actually put a real mountpoint instead of /mountpoint)
[01:10] <dayspring> jdmpike: :)
[01:10] <jdmpike> dayspring, I have been loving it
[01:10] <crimsun_> Draconicus: sudo modprobe -r snd_pcm_oss && sudo modprobe snd_pcm_oss dsp_map=1
[01:11] <larson9999> Warbo: i tried ubuntu before but i could never get it to install on this machine until this release.  funny thing is on my other machine which the old version would install ok, dapper doesn't recognize the harddrive.
[01:11] <boabsta> anyone know what plugin you need for K3B to burn VCDs??
[01:11] <b14ck> Warbo:  mountpoint like in /mnt/hda8 ?
[01:11] <dayspring> jdmpike: you used ubuntu before dapper?
[01:11] <crimsun_> Draconicus: change the '1' to the correct device from /proc/asound/cards that you wish to use
[01:11] <chr1s_> got a question regarding xorg
[01:11] <jdmpike> dayspring, I started using it with Warty
[01:11] <Warbo> b14ck: Anywhere, as long as it exists already (so use mkdir to make it first)
[01:11] <b14ck> k
[01:11] <FearMoth> what repository do I have to enable to get libxine-extracodecs ?
[01:11] <jdmpike> dayspring, used to use gentoo, but I got tired of compiling everything on my laptop
[01:11] <dayspring> jdmpike: Linux is great! prob is too many try it for 2 hours and go back to MS windows as soon as they run into a challenge in Linux
[01:12] <nbjayme> FearMoth: multiverse
[01:12] <dayspring> jdmpike: will dapper install and work ok on notebooks?
[01:12] <Drake_> is it normal to have something like Jun 16 18:17:01 drake CRON[21994] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[01:12] <Drake_> Jun 16 18:17:01 drake CRON[21994] : (pam_unix) session closed for user root
[01:12] <jdmpike> dayspring, I may run gentoo on my new 64 bit server though - it can compile things a bit quicker
[01:12] <FearMoth> nbjayme: do I need to add it into my apt sources manually, or is it already there?
[01:12] <gizmo_the_great1> anyone know what this might mean? APIC error on CPU0: 04(04)
[01:12] <chr1s_> Everything works fine with my i386 kernel.  I was able to install the k7 kernel (I have an AMD cpu), but when X tries to start it crashes... any ideas?
[01:12] <larson9999> vcds? i thought you could just copy those like regular cds... in fact i know you can.  i made backups of a dozen or so of my  son's thai vds
[01:12] <nbjayme> you can edit the entry in gui and add multiverse
[01:12] <green_earz> Drake_:    cd /etc/cron.hourly   and have look in, there may be a clue ?
[01:13] <Rendo> Anyone got some experience with the GUI not displaying with the LiveCD for 5.10?
[01:13] <nbjayme> FearMoth: you can edit the entry in gui and add multiverse
[01:13] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[01:13] <gnomefreak> FearMoth: you need to enable universe repos than add multiverse after universe in the deb lines so it looks like archive.ubuntu.com/bleh/bleh universe multiverse
[01:13] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone here familiar with pptpconfig?
[01:13] <boabsta> does anyone know what plugin you need for K3B to burn VCDs??
[01:13] <dayspring> gizmo_the_great1: yep! it means that on thge 4th of April 2006, there was a memory read error in your secondary cache in your CPU :)
[01:13] <Drake_> green_earz: there is nothing in /etc/cron.hourly except a file called .placeholder
[01:14] <dayspring> EnsignRedshirt: I used pppconfig
[01:14] <FearMoth> thanks
[01:14] <EnsignRedshirt> I had my VPN tunnel working briefly, but now when I try to start a tunnel, after a second or two it starts sending hundreds of thousand of packets.
[01:14] <larson9999> dayspring: if i weren't so stubborn i would have done that.  took me 2 years to figure out how to get my joystick and printer working correctly.  that was '97 and things are better now.  i guess the cutting edge still has issues but i don't have cutting edge hw
[01:15] <dayspring> larson9999: cool :)
[01:15] <steveO_> My auto login on gnome was broke but today I did apt-get upgrade and now it's working again!
[01:15] <gizmo_the_great1> dayspring: thanks. but what might the error mean?
[01:15] <larson9999> EnsignRedshirt: is that a ipv6 thing?
[01:15] <Firetech> hmm, is there any way to move files around on an ext3 parition, so it can be resized to a smaller size with the same information left on it? (my files are a bit wildly distributed right now)
[01:15] <gizmo_the_great1> dayspring: i ask because my PC turning itself off and I haveing problems with diusplay
[01:15] <b14ck> Warbo:  ok it mounted. will it mount every time i reboot or i have to put in that command?
[01:15] <EnsignRedshirt> larson9999: That's the wrong kind of question to ask me... :)
[01:15] <nbjayme> i have a problem with totem-xine... it crashes. anyone had the same problem and able to know the work-around?
[01:15] <Drake_> green_earz: there is an entry in /etc/crontable 17 *    * * *   root    run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly that seems to do something on the 17th minute of the each hour though I don't see anything in /etc/cron.hourly that it could be doing
[01:16] <zhenre> Is there any web-based server managment tool for ubuntu (dapperdrake server)
[01:16] <Warbo> b14ck: Put it in /etc/fstab (copy your line for "/" and fiddle with the options in it to make it right)
[01:16] <Rendo> Anyone got some experience with the GUI not displaying with the LiveCD for 5.10?
[01:16] <Kyral> zhenre: ISPConfig?
[01:16] <larson9999> EnsignRedshirt: me, too.
[01:17] <eric__> hello could someone help me
[01:17] <zhenre> kyral: sounds good, can you apt-get it?
[01:17] <gizmo_the_great1> is there a terminal command to show the temperature of CPU?
[01:17] <Kyral> zhenre: dunno
[01:17] <zhenre> kyral: doesn't seem to have it (as ispconfig)
[01:17] <Kyral> zhenre: HowtoForge has a nice Howto
[01:17] <EnsignRedshirt> !someone
[01:17] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[01:18] <Kyral> gizmo_the_great1: if you have lm-sensors installed and configured, then sensors should do ti
[01:18] <goudkov> hi guys, i just installed dapper and i'm having a problem with locale warnings. i do see that locales is installe, but the problem is still there. are there any ubuntu-specific docs for that?
[01:18] <eric__> i just got ubuntu and cant open anything i download ie. msn messenger or real player
[01:18] <dayspring> I just compiled and installed clamscan! How can I restart this service witrhout rebooting pls?
[01:18] <gizmo_the_great1> Kyral: it says command not found
[01:18] <chr1s_> chr1s
[01:18] <Kyral> gizmo_the_great1: then you don't have it installed :P
[01:18] <gizmo_the_great1> Kyral: darn :-)
[01:18] <dayspring> larson9999: any ideas?
[01:18] <eric__> and i have a dvd rom drive but cant play dvd's
[01:19] <AlienX> ubotu, tell eric__ about restrictedformats
[01:19] <tat> eric__: sounds like youre downloading windows binaries (.exe-files).
[01:19] <dayspring> eric__: you want to copy?
[01:19] <Kyral> gizmo_the_great1: install "lm-sensors" then run "sensors-detect" as root
[01:19] <nbjayme> where does totem-xine place the logs or error logs ?
[01:19] <dayspring> !tell eric__ about restrictedformats
[01:19] <Rendo> Anyone got the pwnt knowledge of the livecd?  The GUI doesn't seem to work and I want to show the mother in law the awesomeisity of Ubuntu.
[01:19] <eric__> yeah it was a .exe
[01:19] <gizmo_the_great1> Kyral: would that be 'apt-get lm-sensors?
[01:19] <dayspring> I just compiled and installed clamscan! How can I restart this service witrhout rebooting pls?
[01:19] <Kyral> gizmo_the_great1: sudo if you aren't root
[01:19] <nbjayme> i changed my totem-gstreamer to totem-xine.... anybody experienced a crash when totem-xine is loaded?  what could be the problem? where to get the error log?
[01:19] <larson9999> dayspring: i don't use clamscan but i'm assuming it's a deamon you can run with a restart param
[01:20] <EnsignRedshirt> dayspring: Earlier, was it a typo when you said you use pppconfig?  Not pptpconfig?
[01:20] <eric__> theres a lot going on... how do i install things?
[01:20] <cdubya> !dapper
[01:20] <ubotu> from memory, dapper is Ubuntu 6.06, the "Dapper Drake" release. Released June 1st 2006
[01:20] <Kyral> !install
[01:20] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[01:20] <boabsta> dayspring: /etc/init.d/clamav-freshclam restart possibly
[01:20] <cdubya> !Upgrade
[01:20] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[01:20] <tat> eric__: you cant install windows programs on ubuntu without using wine, and you dont want to do that.
[01:20] <gizmo_the_great1> Kyral: 'sudo apt-get lm-sensors' returns :  'Invalid operation lm-sensors'?
[01:20] <Kyral> gizmo_the_great1: oh lol you need "apt-get install" :P
[01:20] <dayspring> EnsignRedshirt: ive only used pppconfig
[01:20] <jobezone> Hello, has anyone used Wine to play Riven DVD (Sequel to Myst)?
[01:20] <Rendo> gizmo sudo apt-get install <thing>
[01:20] <larson9999> tat: what's wrong with installing wine?
[01:21] <EnsignRedshirt> dayspring: I see.
[01:21] <eric__> whats apt-get install?
[01:21] <Rendo> eric__ it installs a package.
[01:21] <cstrippie> winecfg
[01:21] <cdubya> eric_, apt is the debian package manager
[01:21] <gizmo_the_great1> Kyral: excellent - thanks. its installing now :-)
[01:21] <cstrippie> oops
[01:21] <tat> larson9999: nothing wrong, but i dont think its such a good idea to run msn messenger with wine :)
[01:21] <gizmo_the_great1> Rendo: thanks
[01:21] <Rendo> eric__ You choose which package you want to install, or you can use the synaptic manager to do it with more ease.
[01:21] <BIAF> jobezone : try http://www.transgaming.com/
[01:21] <Rendo> tat: Gaim :P
[01:22] <tat> or amsn :)
[01:22] <eric__> maybe linux isnt for me...i have no idea what u guys r talking about
[01:22] <EnsignRedshirt> eric__: You might want to try the GUI program synaptic: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager  instead of the command line.
[01:22] <gizmo_the_great1> Kyral: darn. after all that it says' No sensors found' Nevermind
[01:22] <dayspring> ive compiled latest clamscan version! Yet it doesnt run, as it runs older version still!  Any advice?
[01:22] <Rendo> tat: Only a fool would run Msn :P
[01:22] <larson9999> tat msn messenger?  i agree.  use kopete
[01:22] <cdubya> eric_, if you have questions, just ask. :)
[01:22] <Kyral> gizmo_the_great1: you need to run "sensors-detect" first as root
[01:22] <wastrel> dayspring:  make sure newer clamscan is in your path before the older clamscan
[01:22] <BIAF> eric : click Apps then Add/Remove , you can install aload of programs from there..
[01:22] <cdubya> gaim works great with msn.....:)
[01:22] <gizmo_the_great1> Kyral:   oh right - sorry
[01:22] <tat> eric__: amsn and gaim are good alternatives to msn messenger :)
[01:22] <Drake_> green_earz: any clue to find out what is causing that in the /var/log/auth.log?
[01:22] <cdubya> at least for me
[01:22] <tobberoth> MSN sucks, Windows Live Messenger is nice though, it's the best instans messenger IMO.
[01:22] <larson9999> eric__: linux is for everyone.  all the cool kids are doing it.  don't give up now
[01:22] <dayspring> wastrel: how I check that please?
[01:22] <wastrel> dayspring:  or call newer clamscan with full path name
[01:22] <dayspring> wastrel: how?
[01:23] <wastrel> dayspring:  first type "which clamscan"
[01:23] <larson9999> eric__: kopete is also a good im client.  and it does webcam.  gaim doesn't
[01:23] <BIAF> eric : anything allready selected is allready on system, look around in menu(s)
[01:23] <dayspring> wastrel: it said: /usr/local/bin/clamscan
[01:23] <wastrel> well that should be the new one
[01:23] <dayspring> wastrel: now what?
[01:23] <wastrel> ok what's good
[01:23] <wastrel> well how are you running clamscan?
[01:23] <green_earz> Drake_:   http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-security/43305-my-machine-risk.html
[01:23] <dayspring> wastrel: I type clamscan
[01:23] <chr1s_> is there not an automatix package for K7?
[01:23] <wastrel> er, s/what/that/
[01:24] <gizmo_the_great1> tobberoth: just use aMSN
[01:24] <dayspring> wastrel: but I compliled a new version and it doesnt run the new version :(
[01:24] <jksd> hi, sorry, simple question but what's the command line for downloading packages?
[01:24] <eric__> can amsn and gaim talk with the normal ones so i could talk to my friends who have those?
[01:24] <chr1s_> jksd... its sudo apt-get install <package_name>
[01:24] <tobberoth> gizmo_the_great1: nah, kopete works fine.. I just sorta miss offline messages and shared folders.
[01:24] <gizmo_the_great1> eric yes
[01:24] <jksd> chr1s_: thanks :)
[01:24] <wastrel> dayspring:  the older version was installed by synaptic?
[01:24] <cdubya> eric_, yep, do it all the time
[01:24] <dayspring> wastrel: cant remmeber
[01:25] <wastrel> dayspring:  did you compile it?  the older one?
[01:25] <nbjayme> is kopete capable of doing webcam with yahoo messenger?
[01:25] <b14ck> Warbo: really sorry to bother again but mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda8 is already mounted on /
[01:25] <b14ck> mount failed
[01:25] <dayspring> wastrel: cant remmeber :(
[01:25] <wastrel> dayspring:  ok how did you install the new version?
[01:25] <larson9999> eric__: yes. that's they're purpose.  if you use gaim or kopete you can even talk to people who use yahoo, icq, jabber, et al.
[01:25] <eric__> ok, totem also won't recognize my dvd's
[01:25] <Drake_> green_earz: thanks for the link that is good that it is not a risk though still is bugging me why it is being called and where exactly is the cron job that is calling it
[01:26] <gizmo_the_great1> eric_ have you tried running 'Automatix'?
[01:26] <Warbo> b14ck: To unmount something use "sudo umount deviceORmountpoint" you can only mount something once at a time (although you can access it in many places with "mount --bind")
[01:26] <chr1s_> is there not an automatix package for K7?
[01:27] <eric__> no not yet
[01:27] <dayspring> wastrel: I typed ./configure, then make, then make install
[01:27] <gizmo_the_great1> eric - Automatix installs a load of codecs etc that help you play a lot of stuff. I'd try that
[01:27] <dayspring> wastrel: was the right?
[01:27] <wastrel> dayspring:  when you did make install - did you use sudo?
[01:28] <gizmo_the_great1> eric_ : http://www.getautomatix.com/
[01:28] <green_earz> Drake_: i look at my cat /var/log/auth.log  and the same thing, and its now bugging me to . some thing some doing it. where ?
[01:28] <Jemt> What are the odds that I can install ie MySQL 5, Java 1.5/5, Bluefish 1.4 among others from Dapper Repositories on Breezy ?
[01:28] <cls2> Can someone help me with networking on drake?
[01:28] <Jemt> Is there some way I can check whether it is possible, or do a test and afterwards test it ?
[01:28] <b14ck> Warbo: so it is allready mounted but where all the partitions and  cd/dvd are listed ,i can't access it or mount it and it gives me the mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda8 is already mounted on /
[01:28] <b14ck> mount failed
[01:28] <Jemt> cls2: Just ask your question :)
[01:28] <Madpilot> Jemt, for Bluefish, I'm guessing "not good" - for the rest, I'm not sure
[01:28] <cls2> Ok
[01:28] <sam1001> anyone done any compiling work on ubuntu?
[01:29] <dayspring> wastrel: I typed ./configure, then make as normal user!  and then i typed: sudo make install
[01:29] <dayspring> wastrel: was the right?
[01:29] <Jemt> Madpilot: Why ?
[01:29] <Warbo> b14ck: By the way, you DID change the mountpoint in that new fstab line right?
[01:29] <tobberoth> sam1001: Depends. I compiled tptest for my comp.
[01:29] <dayspring> wastrel: was that right?
[01:29] <cls2> I installed drake, everything went fine, but it won't grab an ip address.
[01:29] <Madpilot> Jemt, because Bluefish has a fair number of dependancies w/ Gnome, and Dapper has a new version of Gnome
[01:29] <cls2> I tried rebooting the DSL modem
[01:29] <wastrel> dayspring:  that seems right
[01:29] <shuffle> I installed bomb to my sfinktr
[01:29] <shuffle> hi
[01:29] <Jemt> Madpilot: Oh, I see
[01:29] <Jemt> Madpilot: Thanks
[01:29] <cls2> It's going through ethernet, not usb.
[01:29] <shuffle> is it right?
[01:29] <Graig> hello, are lots of people having problems with the latest kernel update still?
[01:29] <wastrel> dayspring:  how do you know it's not running the newer version
[01:29] <shuffle> it's going thru anus
[01:29] <shuffle> dude
[01:29] <Jemt> !tell cls2 about enter
[01:30] <b14ck> Warbo:  in fstab "/dev/hda8       /               ext2    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1"
[01:30] <NthDegree> problems? i haven't had any with the latest kernel
[01:30] <shuffle> !tell anus about shit shipment
[01:30] <Jemt> !shit shipment
[01:30] <ubotu> Jemt: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:30] <Jemt> Heh
[01:30] <chr1s_> My X server keeps crashing now that I've installed a K7 kernel... any ideas?
[01:30] <sam1001> tobberoth,do you know any differences there are between VS' c++ compiler and gnu's?
[01:30] <Warbo> b14ck: Change that "/" to wherever you want it put (like "/media/hda8" or whatever)
[01:30] <cls2> Sorry, didn't know it was doing it.
[01:30] <Madpilot> Jemt, any reason you can't just upgrade the Breezy install to Dapper?
[01:30] <eric__> sorryi had a phone call
[01:30] <Drake_> green_earz: I am not sure which cron job is calling it though I do know that there is a entry in crontab that I am assuming is being called  on the 17th minute of every hour 17 *    * * *   root    run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
[01:31] <tobberoth> sam1001: Sorry no Idea, I've only used GCC.
[01:31] <aesxa> Hi. I'd like to use kuickshow on dapper. How can I do this
[01:31] <Jemt> Madpilot: Dapper crashes (freezes) 1-3 times a day - a problem which many Dapper users experience
[01:31] <dayspring> wastrel: because it says this:  This version of the ClamAV engine is outdated.! Engine version: 0.87.1
[01:31] <b14ck> Warbo: ooo that must be it thanx again
[01:31] <Warbo> aesxa: "sudo apt-get install kuickshow" then choose it as a default for JPEG/PNG/Whatever
[01:31] <Madpilot> Jemt, not here - sounds like hardware trouble
[01:31] <dayspring> wastrel: the latest is 0.88
[01:31] <dayspring> wastrel: what can I do?
[01:31] <Jeruvy> so why would running aptitude over ssh kill my nic card?
[01:31] <Graig> Jemt: were those people having crashing problems before or after the current patches,  currently it's really stable for me.
[01:31] <Jeruvy> so why would running aptitude over ssh kill my nic card?
[01:32] <Jemt> Madpilot: It's not. Drivers maybe
[01:32] <sam1001> my program compiled and runs fine in VS, but in ubuntu, it compiled but the program did not work
[01:32] <aesxa> Warbo, doesn't work, it's not in Dapper, and when I try to compile it complains that it can't find Qt, even when I specify the location.
[01:32] <larson9999> Warbo: i couldn't get kuickshow to work with dapper.  there's a blurb on the net about it not playing nice with dapper
[01:32] <Warbo> aesxa: compile? Why not use apt for the binary one?
[01:32] <Jemt> Graig: No idea. But check the forums - there is alot of major bugs in Dapper
[01:32] <aesxa> Warbo, again, because it's not in dapper, and the older ones don't work because it can't resolve some dependency
[01:32] <Jemt> That's why I want to downgrade to Breezy
[01:33] <Madpilot> Jemt, fun... Dapper's been as stable as Breezy here
[01:33] <larson9999> Warbo: kuickshow is not in any of the dapper repositories.  at least it wasn't yesterday
[01:33] <wastrel> dayspring:  it seems like your /usr/local/bin/clamscan is the old one  - i'd try to find where the new one was installed.   did the  sudo make install   command have any output messages?
[01:33] <Warbo> larson9999: I used it in Dapper's pre-beta stages because of it's cool mousewheel=change image feature, but then noticed that GNOME's picture viewer got big Forward and Back buttons
[01:33] <Jemt> Madpilot: Well, again, it is probably a driver issue :)
[01:33] <Graig> well i guess i will install these 90 some updates and see how it's going.  cause right now, it's perfectly stable without the updates.
[01:33] <Jemt> Thanks anyways, guys
[01:33] <larson9999> Warbo: yeah, that's why i use it too.  but i can't get it to work with dapper
[01:33] <Jemt> Guess I'll haft to compile MySQL 5 myself
[01:34] <aesxa> plus I just like compiling things sometimes. : ) but I figured this was a pretty high-demand program so people would know how to get it to work, or if we just have to wait.
[01:34] <Madpilot> Jemt, yeah, if you're going to stick w/ Breezy, you're stuck compiling mysql5 too
[01:34] <dayspring> wastrel: Making install in libclamav
[01:34] <dayspring> make[1] : Entering directory `/home/lisa/download/clamav-0.88.2/libclamav'
[01:34] <dayspring> make[2] : Entering directory `/home/lisa/download/clamav-0.88.2/libclamav'
[01:34] <Graig> hmm, thats odd there are less updates than when i checked earlier??
[01:34] <Jemt> Madpilot: Yep
[01:34] <Warbo> I have kuickshow in front of me now (the package must still be left from before it was removed)
[01:34] <Jemt> !tell dayspring about pastebin
[01:34] <cls2> My ethernet card won't get an ip address through dhcp on a dsl modem.
[01:34] <Graig> earlier today, i had 90 updates, diddn't install them, and now there are 79?
[01:34] <wastrel> dayspring:  don't paste in here - use pastebin
[01:34] <Graig> did they pull some updates?
[01:34] <dayspring> wastrel: Libraries have been installed in:
[01:34] <dayspring>    /usr/local/lib
[01:34] <larson9999> Warbo: kuickshow is the best seemingly lightweight viewer i've seen that scrolls by the wheel.
[01:34] <dayspring> wastrel: ok
[01:35] <cls2> It's a fresh install, no updates.
[01:35] <green_earz> Drake_:  its calling cron every hourly but there no job to do, so its makes a log of the call but no job to do
[01:35] <dayspring> wastrel: thats what it said!  any ideas where its been placed?
[01:35] <eric__> ok i suck with computer - how do i upgrade to dapper
[01:35] <Graig> oh, 95 megs, i think i must have been looking at the megs, not the number of updates.
[01:35] <roostishaw> is it possible to make a cluster by connecting an old computer running ubuntu to this one (running ubuntu also)? would this help with day-to-day use? im just looking for a way to use my old comp...
[01:35] <eric__> i am at the page someone listed above
[01:35] <Jemt> cls2: Does your card show up in 'ifconfig -a' ?
[01:35] <cls2> Yeah
[01:35] <Madpilot> eric__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades <-- this page?
[01:35] <aesxa> Yeah, I really like Kuickshow. : ( Can you send me that package or something? : ( argh.
[01:35] <wastrel> dayspring:  those were all the messages?  it doesn't seem that a new binary was installed.  - not that i know anything about clamscan...
[01:35] <cls2> It shows up in ifconfig as well as the dialogue.
[01:35] <Warbo> aesxa: Do you have the "-dev" packages for QT installed? They are usually needed to compile stuff
[01:36] <cls2> dhclient doesn't grab an ip address even after reboot the modem.
[01:36] <eric__> yeah that page
[01:36] <aesxa> Warbo, yeah, I installed all the KDE/Qt dev packages I could find.
[01:36] <Jemt> cls2: Hm, very weird indeed. Maybe a driver problem - don't think I can help you with that
[01:36] <cls2> Think the kernel update might be a fix?
[01:36] <Drake_> green_earz: you are saying that because it is calling a cron every hour at a certain minute of the hour it is making a log of it in /var/log/auth.log?  LOL
[01:36] <eric__> when i installed breezy i updated and it said dapper was available but i don't know how to get it
[01:36] <dayspring> wastrel: why didnt you tell me you are a begginer to Linux?
[01:37] <cls2> If so, how do I download the update through windows?
[01:37] <boabsta> raaaagh, okay i've looked and looked and googled and just cant find what plugin I need for K3B to burn VCDs
[01:37] <khaladan> hey, through Gnome's screen resolution setting, it seems I am locked in at 640x480 at 60 Hz.  i know i can do better than this!  how?
[01:37] <bbrazil> Drake_: cron uses PAM, which is auth
[01:37] <Madpilot> dayspring, there are no Linux viruses anyway - why bother with clamav?
[01:37] <Warbo> aesxa: It seems that I've apt-get cleaned my packages a few times since last getting kuickshow, so no packages :(
[01:37] <bbrazil> Madpilot: eh, there are linux viruses
[01:37] <aesxa> Warbo, that's ok, thanks anyway man. : )
[01:37] <wastrel> dayspring:  i'm not a beginner w/ linux, i just don't use clamav
[01:37] <Madpilot> bbrazil, not out of the lab there aren't, afaik...
[01:38] <boabsta> khaladan: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:38] <bbrazil> Madpilot: nothing widespread, but they exist
[01:38] <bobesponja> what is the default mysql user on ubuntu?
[01:38] <mumbles> question , i have had to reinstall windows, how do i get the grub loading scheme back?
[01:39] <dayspring> Madpilot: because I send attachments, etc to MS window users and want to protect them
[01:39] <aerojava> hey,  someone have listened about Ubuntu Rex?
[01:39] <eric__> how do i tell what version of ubuntu i have?
[01:39] <dayspring> wastrel: what do you use to check emails etc for virus?
[01:39] <eric__> maybe i did upgrade
[01:39] <Warbo> dayspring: Protect the attachments with GPG :)
[01:39] <dayspring> wastrel: how can I totally remove clamscan?
[01:39] <Madpilot> eric__, system menu->About Ubuntu
[01:39] <dayspring> Warbo: not all MS windows use it
[01:39] <XiXaQ> Is it better to use Skype or Ekiga if I want to be able to call normal phones and other computers?
[01:39] <Warbo> dayspring: I was joking about "protect them"
[01:39] <larson9999> the new dosbox was quite i bit of improvement
[01:40] <aerojava> someone have listened about Ubuntu Rex?
[01:40] <eric__> i did that
[01:40] <dayspring> Warbo: oh really?
[01:40] <eric__> it doesnt tell
[01:40] <rixth> AHHHH. I have checked Preferences->Sound and the 'Login' sound is only set for login. All other events have 'No Sound' yet I keep hearing the freakin login tune everytime I click a control. I have even moved /usr/share/sounds/login.wav to another location and I STILL hear it.
[01:40] <Madpilot> aerojava, Ubuntu what?
[01:40] <wastrel> dayspring:  i don't - linux doesn't really suffer from a virus problem.
[01:40] <dayspring> Warbo: dont give up your dayjob :)
[01:40] <dayspring> wastrel: you dont listen :)
[01:40] <Drake_> green_earz: I am guessing that those entries in crontab are there by default the hourly one is on the 17th minute the daily cron is 6 hour and 25 minute the weekly cron is the 6 hour and 47th minute and 7th day of week and the monthly cron is 1st day of the month there 52 minute of the 6th hour....wtf...where did those off the cuff times come from?
[01:40] <wastrel> dayspring:  sudo make uninstall, if the install script has an uninstall option.
[01:40] <h3xis> I have Ubuntu running on a server and I'm wanting to remove some excess packages that I have no use for to free up some space. Whenever I try to apply any changes in Synaptic it tells me that I need to resolve 2 broken packages. How do I find out which packages are broken?
[01:41] <dayspring> wastrel:  listen carefully this time :)  I KNOW Linux is ok from virus HOWEVER I want to make sure I dont send any virus along to my MS Window users
[01:41] <eric__> i went to about ubuntu buit it just tells me "about" it like the project
[01:41] <green_earz> Drake_: cat /etc/crontab  and 17 *    * * *   root    run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly  then > Jun 17 00:17:01 localhost CRON[16358] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root
[01:42] <FlimFlamMan> dayspring, why are you feeding people bogus information in the official ubuntu support channel?
[01:42] <Songster52> Hello...I have installed Breezy on a computer and need to update the update manager. can someone tell me how to do this?
[01:42] <boabsta> whats the best way to burn VCDs so you can play them on a DVD player?
[01:42] <Drake_> dayspring: well the positive note is that you would have to purposely mail your friends the virus because there aren't any in the wild viruses that would cause your linux box to automatically mail out the viruses like outlook or such do
[01:42] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: dont falsely accuse me
[01:43] <eric__> madpilot: it didnt work
[01:43] <dayspring> Drake_: ok! so you dont use clamscan or any antivirus program?
[01:43] <b14ck> how can i permanently change the read write permissions of a partition?
[01:43] <FlimFlamMan> dayspring, you told me my disk was hosed because the "partitions weren't in disk order", told me i needed a new hard drive and to try the install again.  all false.
[01:43] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: why are you feeding people bogus and false information about certain people?
[01:43] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: you heard what you wanted to hear
[01:43] <hd420> where does the mplayer package store codecs?
[01:44] <Warbo> hd420: /usr/lib/codecs
[01:44] <eric__> ok thanks those who helped me i guess im on my own now
[01:44] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: stop acting like a crybaby and grow up for once
[01:44] <Songster52> I have installed Breezy on a computer and need to update the update manager. can someone tell me how to do this?
[01:44] <Drake_> green_earz: I get the same entry it is very strange times that are set for hourly, daily, weekly and monthly cronjobs
[01:44] <Rendo> Anyone got the pwnt knowledge of the livecd?  The GUI doesn't seem to work and I want to show the mother in law the awesomeisity of Ubuntu.
[01:44] <dayspring> Songster52: why do you need to update the update manager?
[01:44] <Madpilot> Songster52, you mean you want to upgrade to 6.06, or what?
[01:44] <green_earz> Drake_: some like 6 oclock in the morning for the cron jobs, its the business world, before peaple get to work the server clean the log jobs
[01:45] <hd420> Warbo: I need only untar the codecs.tar.bz2 file from mplayer.org to make things work right?
[01:45] <hd420> under /usr/lib/codecs?
[01:45] <Songster52> because I DO want to upgrade to 6.06.. the update manager says there are no upgrades
[01:45] <b14ck> Warbo:  how can i change the read/write settings for the partition because it's read only and i want to make it like always rw
[01:45] <Rendo> Songster52: Manually edit your sources.lst and change Breezy to Dapper
[01:46] <Warbo> hd420: Should do (I have copied dlls from WINE's windows/system32 directory to /usr/lib/codecs after installling Windows codec packs and they worked fine)
[01:46] <khaladan> hey, i have gdm running as the greeter... is there any way I can tell gdm to log in as a certain user remotely?
[01:46] <Draconicus> crimsun_: I'm finally back. I did the modprobe stuff. splay still won't play. Is there another step?
[01:46] <zhenre> does any one know how to do the equivalent of an autoexec.bat in ubuntu...I want to run a dns updating program everytime the computer boots
[01:46] <zhenre> it might be nice to have it run every once in a while automatically as well
[01:46] <dayspring> Songster52: it will say it at top
[01:46] <Songster52> ok.. will look for that and change it
[01:46] <eric__> ok im back i cant do it on my own
[01:47] <BIAF> can i apt-get perl does anyone know?
[01:47] <dayspring> Songster52: order the Dapper CD from the website ;)
[01:47] <Madpilot> Songster52, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> Songster52: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/i' /etc/apt/sources.list (will also make a backup)
[01:47] <wastrel> BIAF:  perl should be installed by default
[01:47] <gavagai> zhenre, you want cron
[01:47] <Drake_> green_earz: yes I would figure that but why by default 6:25 daily, 6:47 on the 7th day of the week for weekly cron, 6:25 on the first day of the month
[01:47] <eric__> everytime i try to get some thing it says "not installable only a universe somehting"
[01:47] <Rendo> eric__ Enable the other repositories
[01:47] <Songster52> I think I will get the CDs.. just impatient, I guess
[01:47] <BIAF> wastrel : what path should it be in do you know as default
[01:47] <FlimFlamMan> dayspring, why did you say my hard drive was trashed when it wasn't?
[01:48] <eric__> rendo: then will they work like normal?
[01:48] <Rendo> Songster52: I upgraded from 5.10 to 6.06 jsut fine without the cds.
[01:48] <theine> BIAF: /usr/bin/perl
[01:48] <wastrel> BIAF:  /usr/bin/perl
[01:48] <Warbo> b14ck: If you are the only one on the computer then in /etc/fstab in the line for your partition it should look like: /dev/hda8 /wherever  ext2 defaults,rw,uid=yourusername 0 0" (where /whatever is your mount point and yourusername is your Linux username)
[01:48] <Songster52> actually I d/l the dapper.. but it brings me to the $ prompt and I am lost after that
[01:48] <Rendo> eric__ If whatever package you're looking for is under those ones, yes.
[01:48] <wastrel> perl -e 'print "hi\n";'
[01:48] <Madpilot> Songster52, check the URL I just gave you - you can upgrade Breezy to Dapper fairly easiily
[01:48] <eric__> rendo: k ill try it thanks
[01:48] <Madpilot> easily, even
[01:48] <crimsun_> Draconicus: what parameter did you pass to modprobe?
[01:48] <Warbo> b14ck: Also forget the " after the second 0
[01:49] <b14ck> Warbo:  will do :P
[01:49] <Rendo> Has anyone ran into issues with the live cd for 5.10 or any version for that matter not displaying a GUI?
[01:49] <Songster52> thanks Madpilot... at that page now
[01:49] <cute_bettong> !restricted
[01:49] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[01:49] <larson9999> drm :(
[01:50] <Shirow> has anyone here got ubuntu livecd to boot into x using an ati x800xl and a widescreen lcd?
[01:50] <GTX> how do I upgrade Breezy Server to Dapper Server?
[01:51] <Rendo> GTX: Yell at it a lot and sometimes it does.
[01:51] <chapium> alright people i have a challenge
[01:51] <Trite> for some reason, when I try to install ubuntu on my computer it doesn't go past the step where I mount on step 5/6.....would someone message me?
[01:51] <GTX> lol Rendo :D
[01:51] <Rendo> gtx:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[01:51] <GTX> Its in a datacentre Rendo, So it wont hear me :(
[01:51] <Shirow> because I am having a really hard time 1) getting x to even work and 2) getting x to work at a widescreen resolution
[01:51] <anfangs> I want to add things to my fluxbox menu. how do i open the file '~/.fluxbox/menu'? I don't know what ~/. means
[01:51] <beet0l> problem: i broke sudo, now I can't get root to fix it!
[01:51] <GTX> ta
[01:51] <green_earz> Drake_: on debian sarge its 17mins cron.hourly | 25mins 6 cron.daily | 47mins  6 cron.weekly | 52mins  6 cron.monthly
[01:51] <beet0l> any ideas?
[01:51] <Trite> anyone?
[01:51] <Rendo> beet01: How'd you break sudo? :o
[01:51] <Shirow> the only way I can get x to boot is to use the vesa driver instead of the ati driver, and when i use the vesa driver it won't recognize my 1680x1050 resolution and will onyl work at 1280x1024
[01:52] <Trite> would someone help?
[01:52] <Rendo> 1 second trite
[01:52] <Rendo> I need to register my nick for pm :/
[01:53] <wastrel> beet0l:  reboot into rescue mode
[01:53] <chapium> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a mac that already has ubuntu on it.  I don't know the pw, but its irrelevant since I'm wiping the drive anyways.  The problem is the Dapper Live CD has a bug that wont allow the kernel to work with older macs.  Supposedly the updated kernels work.  The kernel image already on the mac does work.    Now stop acting like a big crybaby and grow up
[01:54] <nickrud> Shirow, there's a relevant bug I think: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/45768
[01:54] <chapium> i used the same disc on another mac and it worked fine :D
[01:54] <gavagai> chapium, just upgrade, don't do a fresh install from a live cd
[01:54] <app> I installed on a laptop and GRUB has now menu entry for my first partition Windows. What is the easiest way to fix this?
[01:54] <chapium> gavagai: i would upgrade if i knew the password
[01:55] <jinho326> hi I installed a program using make install, but I want to reinstall it- do I have to then uninstall the program- and if so how do I go about doing that?
[01:55] <Rendo> Trite: Check your private messages.
[01:55] <gavagai> chapium, what about booting to single user mode
[01:55] <Trite> rendo
[01:55] <Trite> I am
[01:55] <Shirow> nickrud, interesting, thanks for that link
[01:55] <Trite> are you not getting them?
[01:55] <chapium> gavagai: how?  off the live cd?
[01:55] <Trite> do I have to register my nick?
[01:55] <Rendo> You needto register.
[01:55] <Rendo> ./msg nickserv register <your-password>
[01:55] <Trite> kk
[01:55] <xanavim> app: edit grub's menu.lst file and change the default number
[01:55] <gavagai> chapium, from grub there should be a way to boot into linux single
[01:55] <Dreamglider> does anyone use xmms ?
[01:55] <Rendo> I do.
[01:55] <Dreamglider> ok
[01:55] <gavagai> i have gotten into boxes that way before
[01:56] <jshriver> Greetings
[01:56] <gavagai> i'm not sure how ubuntu behaves in single user mode though, i'm a recent convert
[01:56] <Dreamglider> you know where i can find equ presets ?
[01:56] <jshriver> how do I stop Totem from trying to play a DVD when I put it in?
[01:56] <gavagai> but if you can boot linux single then you'll have root access usually and can change the passwords
[01:56] <Rendo> Not sure, not on my ubuntu machine right now.
[01:56] <wastrel> gavagai:  there's a rescue setting in grub by default
[01:56] <Warbo> jshriver: Preferences>Removable Drives And Media
[01:56] <jinho326> how do I uninstall something without using synaptic?
[01:56] <wastrel> gavagai:  beet0l just hit escape when first booting to see the grub list and choose the rescue/recovery line.
[01:56] <crimsun_> jshriver: System> Preferences> Removable Drives and Media> Removable Storage
[01:57] <chapium> gavagai: right,so I can gain root on any ubuntu computer from the boot prompt?  I doubt it
[01:57] <jshriver> hrm? I dont want it to stop auto-mounting, just want it to stop auto-loading totem.
[01:57] <gavagai> chapium, i can get root on any ubuntu computer i have physical access to, with few excpetions
[01:57] <gavagai> physical access = root
[01:57] <khaladan> hey, i have gdm running as the greeter... is there any way I can tell gdm to log in as a certain user remotely?
[01:57] <beet0l> wastrel, thanks im in
[01:57] <wastrel> chapium:  have you checked your /boot/grub/menu.lst  there's a default setting for "recovery" mode
[01:58] <xanavim> chapium: do you mean grub or gdm?
[01:58] <jshriver> nvm lol changing :)
[01:58] <xanavim> chapium: in grub you can boot as root by default "recovery mode"
[01:59] <eric__> ok, still cant install and run any program
[01:59] <eric__> says i need to rename real player on desktop to install
[02:00] <eric__> can change it b/c there is a "/" in the name
[02:00] <nickrud> Shirow, I was helping someone with similar problems earlier, no success. I also see reports that if you install the fglrx driver it does work
[02:00] <Warbo> eric__: There is a repo for realplayer which I use
[02:00] <nickrud> !fglrx
[02:00] <eric__> warbo: how do i get that
[02:01] <Warbo> eric__: In Synaptic go on Settings>Repositories and Add then Custom and put "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main"
[02:03] <ardy> help how to enable proxy authentication in browser?
[02:03] <Rendo> ardy: Options->Preferences
[02:05] <ardy> Rendo, what I mean is to configure squid.conf to enable squid popup window to do authentication.
[02:05] <EnsignRedshirt> To anyone who heard me mumbling about VPN and pptp problems earlier... it appears that a firmware upgrade for my Linksys router has fixed the problem.
[02:06] <eric__> warbo: i dont know what synaptic is
[02:07] <Warbo> eric__: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager (how everything should be installed)
[02:08] <eric__> warbo: maybe that was my problem with realplayer
[02:08] <calisee> Anyone have a link to a how to for setting up a VPN
[02:08] <ardy> help how to setup a simple squid configuration ?
[02:09] <Warbo> eric__: Just search for whatever you want in Synaptic and mark it for installation then apply the changes. If something is not in Ubuntu (like realplayer) then add a new repository (like the one I gave you)
[02:09] <chapium> gavagai: wow you are right... i went right into root
[02:09] <Rendo> Has anyone ever ran into a problem with the GUI not showing up after a LIVECD boot?
[02:09] <Draconicus> crimsun_: dsp_map=2
[02:09] <chapium> gavagai++
[02:09] <boabsta> okay anyone here actually burn there own video CDs/DVDs??
[02:10] <crimsun_> Draconicus: and adsp_map?
[02:10] <EnsignRedshirt> calisee: Funny you should ask...  I just started using a pptp VPN, and I used these instructions: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-ubuntu.phtml
[02:10] <Rendo> boabsta: I do, but not in linux.
[02:10] <gavagai> chapium, you're welcome!
[02:10] <calisee> EnsignRedshirt: Thanks, did it work out for you?
[02:10] <boabsta> it worked fine with gentoo but i dont know how with Ubuntu, ffmpeg and mencoder both segfault near the end
[02:11] <boabsta> Rendo: thanks, v helpfull ;)
[02:11] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Oh. I didn't see you specify the use of adsp_map. Lemme redo that.
[02:11] <app> I have Pointsec hard disk encryption. I installed Ubuntu. GRUB had no menu entry for Windows. I fixed that by editing menu.lst. Now I can "boot Windows", and it launches Pointsec, but Pointsec re-launches GRUB, when it tries to launch Windows.  So I can not boot to Windows anymore!!!
[02:11] <Rendo> Boabsta: My machine at home isn't good enough for encoding and DVD movie burnage, would take 12 hours to do one.  The wife's machine, using windows *gag* is decent enough to, so I use it on that.   Until I get my new PC I'm stuck doing a few things on XP still. :/
[02:11] <boabsta> but its worth a try - copy the avi over to my windows box and burn it from there, probably be much easier than this linux thing
[02:12] <boabsta> :)
[02:12] <Rendo> Oh, probably.
[02:12] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Still nothing.
[02:12] <EnsignRedshirt> calisee: I still figuring out how well it works.  I ran into some strange behavior a few minutes ago, but it that seems to have been fixed by giving my DSL router a firmware upgrade.
[02:12] <boabsta> lol
[02:12] <Draconicus> crimsun_: I did =2 for both of them
[02:12] <Rendo> I mainly just do family video and what not.  nothing serious but good memories. :D
[02:12] <EnsignRedshirt> s/I/I'm/
[02:12] <crimsun_> Draconicus: hmm. Then it's probably still outputting to card0
[02:12] <eric__> this makes absolutely no sense to me
[02:12] <Rendo> What's wrong eric__?
[02:12] <eric__> i have no idea what i am doing
[02:12] <Rendo> What are you looking for?
[02:12] <EnsignRedshirt> calisee: ...but I am using it as we speak :)
[02:13] <crimsun_> Draconicus: can you wrap splay with aoss?  (install 'alsa-oss' from universe, then ``aoss splay $args'')
[02:13] <eric__> warbo is trying to help me install files
[02:13] <eric__> but i am hopeless
[02:13] <calisee> EnsignRedshirt: Cool, gonna try to set it up so I can log into my university's VPN
[02:13] <Rendo> What files?
[02:13] <Rendo> We all are hopeless when we first start.
[02:13] <Rendo> None of us were l337 d00ds.
[02:13] <theine> I was ;)
[02:13] <eric__> i need a program to play dvd's and would like some IM programs as well
[02:13] <Rendo> Oh shut up. :P
[02:13] <app> Is there a way to restore the MBR in Grub, like there is in LILO?
[02:14] <Rendo> eric__ Gaim already comes pre-installed.  It can do basically all IM clients, icq, yahoo, aol, msn etc etc.
[02:14] <boabsta> eric__: stick with windows and it will work out of the box ;)
[02:14] <LjL> crimsun_: would you by chance have a hint as to while "program1 <pipe1 >pipe2", and in another shell "program2 >pipe1 <pipe2", don't work or work very erratically (i.e. i have to start "echoing" stuff to the pipes before they work) for making the programs communicate bi-directionally?
[02:14] <EnsignRedshirt> calisee: But the instruction are specifically for the pptp protocol.  (But don't expect me to answer any technical questions about what that means.)
[02:14] <Draconicus> crimsun_: That works.
[02:14] <calisee> EnsignRedshirt: what is the command to run the client
[02:14] <eric__> boabsta: i didnt have an OS this was my only option...it was freee
[02:14] <theine> eric__: Have you tried Gaim for your IM needs? It should be included by default.
[02:14] <Rendo> eric__ Pirate, yarrr!
[02:14] <eric__> i saw it but didnt know it would work for that
[02:15] <Rendo> It does eric.
[02:15] <EnsignRedshirt> calisee: Did you take a look at the HowTo?
[02:15] <theine> boabsta: Since when does DVD playing work out of the box in Windows?
[02:15] <cstrippie> theine - it doesn't
[02:15] <boabsta> theine: please dont take me seriously mate
[02:15] <eric__> thanks
[02:15] <eric__> now how do i play dvdsi would like realplayer
[02:15] <eric__> but can't seem to get it
[02:15] <cstrippie> But most don't get the difference between windows and the software installed by the manufacturer of the computer.
[02:15] <larson9999> anyone have any idea why the ubuntu live cd says it can't find a hd when currently there is one dual booting xp and mandriva?
[02:15] <Mike-X2> hi all
[02:15] <ericz> how do you change the default runlevel?
[02:15] <LjL> !realplayer
[02:15] <ubotu> realplayer is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:15] <Rendo> !tell eric__ about easyubuntu
[02:16] <cafuego> theine: Depends on your definition of "out of the box". Most boxes from dell/hp etc play DVDs just fine.
[02:16] <larson9999> i'd like to replace mandriva with ubuntu on that drive
[02:16] <eric__> i have a dell
[02:16] <Rendo> You fool!
[02:16] <alexi5> hello
[02:16] <Rendo> Dell's are the devil/.
[02:16] <eric__> haha
[02:16] <theine> cafuego, I had a fresh Windows install in mind
[02:16] <eric__> i got it off ebay for cheap
[02:16] <Mike-X2> HEARD
[02:16] <Draconicus> High end Dells are pretty nice. Low end dells are pretty "OH DEAR GOD!"
[02:16] <cstrippie> eric - which dell?   So is bashing them.
[02:17] <alexi5> why doesit take so long  transfer files from my windows machine to ubuntu using samba .is there any way to tweak its performance
[02:17] <cstrippie> This is my 3rd dell, the hardware has been great, but he support sucks serious b*lls these days.
[02:17] <Mike-X2> lol
[02:17] <squiggly> heh rendo... building your computer is definitely not cheaper than buying it prebuilt
[02:17] <Warbo> eric__: Click the little writing thing at the top left of the screen which says "System" and some more writing will magically appear. Put the little arrow thing over "Administration" and more magical writing. Now click on Synaptic Package Manager. Put in your password (your normal user's password) then when it comes up click on "Settings" at the top (more magical writing) then "Repositories", now "Add" and there is a little b
[02:17] <squiggly> you've never built your own machine, huh?
[02:18] <xanavim> cstrippie: why does the support suck?
[02:18] <cafuego> squiggly: It is if you insist on the same quality components in the prebuilt one. By a lot.
[02:18] <squiggly> and bloated with crap hardly counts for anything, my dell had only a few things preinstalled and they were easy to get rid of
[02:18] <calisee> EnsignRedshirt: what was the error you were getting before your firmware upgrade
[02:18] <Rendo> squiggly: Yes it is. ;)
[02:18] <Mike-X2> nice looking forward to change to XUBUNTU on my 3800 X2
[02:18] <squiggly> It's what you pay for, for a cheaper machine
[02:18] <Warbo> Home made systems used to be cheaper, since store bought were like 1000, but now they are only around 300 and are pretty high spec
[02:18] <cafuego> squiggly: Then don't compare apples with pears.
[02:18] <Rendo> Squiggly: Custom built for low end dells, of course you can't compare, high end? You can crush the price difference.
[02:18] <squiggly> cafuego, look up one of the mid-end machines available on dell and compare prices
[02:19] <siriusnova> howdy
[02:19] <alexi5> can anyone help me
[02:19] <theine> eric__: For DVD playing, you need an encryption library. For that, open http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.5-1_i386.deb in firefox
[02:19] <siriusnova> anyone here having problems with Suspend and Hibernation with the new kernel?
[02:19] <squiggly> batched with what you pay for shipping, tax, and labor, it comes out about even
[02:19] <ericz> how do i change my default runlevel?
[02:19] <larson9999> yeah, it almost doesn't pay to build a machine these days
[02:19] <cafuego> squiggly: I know, but they still use fairly medium quality components.
[02:19] <siriusnova> I have a Thinkpad T30
[02:19] <siriusnova> :(
[02:19] <crimsun_> siriusnova: yes, anyone with an SATA HD is.
[02:19] <squiggly> Medium quality?
[02:19] <siriusnova> crimsun - the thinkpad T30 doesnt have an sata harddrive
[02:19] <cafuego> Sure I cna build a Celeron/SiS/realtek box for $nothing, but I don't *want* one of those.
[02:19] <squiggly> I haven't had a dell fail on me since ever, and I've used their 3000 and 2300(? something) series
[02:19] <siriusnova> at least i dont think it does
[02:19] <Warbo> larson9999: Not even for Dell?
[02:20] <OSIndependence> Good bye, #Ubuntu!!!
[02:20] <theine> crimsun_: I'm fairly sure that I don't have SATA but I nevertheless have the same problem
[02:20] <cstrippie> xanavim - Hold times are stupid long, the technicians are poorly trained and even more poorly motivated, Occasionally I get one I can't even understand, and they invariably follow a script even when THEY acknowledge it will do no good.  Top all this off with listening to ads while on hold (sure, I wanna buy more of your stuff while I'm stuck here with stuff I bought that doesn't work)...it's too much
[02:20] <squiggly> realtek? SiS? lol?
[02:20] <eric__> warbo: there is a little...?
[02:20] <squiggly> so they have integrated components, are you looking for >100mbps transfer?
[02:20] <larson9999> Warbo: i'm thinking dell's making a little money.
[02:20] <Rendo> Dell makes good money.
[02:20] <cafuego> squiggly: Sometimes, yes.
[02:20] <EnsignRedshirt> calisee: I was using the GUI program pptpconfig (which I installed from the repository described in the HowTo).  It seemed to work a few times, but then whenever I tried to start a tunnel, it would start sending hundreds of thousands of packets.  No internet connections would work then.
[02:21] <squiggly> If you're looking for a low end machine, then thats what dell sells you
[02:21] <squiggly> and you buy it, I don't know why you guys are complaining
[02:21] <Rendo> That's all that Dell can sell too that's cheaper than building your own.
[02:21] <Mike-X2> anyone there can help on info on shutting down X for GFX-install on 6.06 V
[02:21] <cafuego> squiggly: I am *never* looking for a low end machine.
[02:21] <cstrippie> Squiggly - my $3k XPS laptop is hardly a "low end machine"
[02:21] <Rhyddin> anyone here ever used LDU Seditio on their Apache server?
[02:21] <Rendo> cafuego: Exactly.
[02:21] <cafuego> squiggly: My point is that for high end, building one yourself is invariably cheaper.
[02:21] <EnsignRedshirt> Please, continue the Dell discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:21] <Warbo> eric__: ? I think those instructions (apart from 3 typos) are pretty easy to follow
[02:22] <squiggly> try building your own machine before you say that
[02:22] <cstrippie> KDE finished install - back in a few
[02:22] <app> You know, I am really in trouble, Because of my Pointsec, I lost my Windows when I installed Ubuntu. I am afraid to restore the Windows with installation CD recover and fdisk /mbr, because the original MBR of Poinsec would not be there then...
[02:22] <Rendo> I have.
[02:22] <eric__> warbo: i am sorry i am an idiot with this stuff
[02:22] <calisee> EnsignRedshirt: Oh I am getting a different error
[02:22] <squiggly> i did, and i didn't really get anything out of it besides experience
[02:22] <cafuego> squiggly: Yes, I have. Often.
[02:22] <crimsun_> theine: I see, yeah, according to libata-core.c it affects *ata
[02:22] <squiggly> Really
[02:22] <Rhyddin> I installed apache2, php and mysql and php appears to be working correctly since I can get phpinfo .. but my php pages dont DO anything.
[02:22] <Mike-X2> HEEEELLLPP anyone need help
[02:23] <squiggly> Show me a build that you've done on your own that beats dell's price and uses equal or better parts
[02:23] <crimsun_> theine: I presume you're also using -686?
[02:23] <Warbo> eric__: I wrote that explanation about as dumb as I could make it (the little arrow thing is your mouse pointer if that is confusing you)
[02:23] <theine> crimsun_: I do, yes
[02:23] <crimsun_> guh.
[02:23] <crimsun_> I'm only on net/ for the i386 build.
[02:23] <siriusnova> crimsun - the thinkpad t30 doesnt have sata hd
[02:23] <crimsun_> the i686 build will take another hour or so
[02:23] <crimsun_> siriusnova: right, I've adjusted the report
[02:24] <siriusnova> crimsun - sweet thanks
[02:24] <siriusnova> that was my first bug report
[02:24] <siriusnova> haha
[02:24] <siriusnova> :P
[02:24] <Rhyddin> Ok, is there a channel where I might be able to get some help on this?
[02:24] <crimsun_> siriusnova: I'm build-testing, but my machine is quite slow (only 600 MHz), so it will take a while to generate the i686 kernel.
[02:24] <siriusnova> first bug report ive ever filed for any linux distribution
[02:24] <siriusnova> :P
[02:24] <theine> crimsun_: I would naively think that a bug in libata-core.c would only cause a problem when the libata module is loaded, but I guess I'm wrong?
[02:24] <Mike-X2> is this a chat-room or??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????++
[02:24] <app> If anybody knows anything about restoring Pointsec encrypted Windows after Ubuntu installation, please mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I'll go to sleep now and try work with my company support tomorrow.
[02:25] <cavg> algun programa parcido a dvd decrypter?
[02:25] <crimsun_> theine: I can't see any other changes between 23->25 that would trigger it
[02:25] <squiggly> the MPAA doesn't like that cavg
[02:25] <jinho326> /lag
[02:25] <crimsun_> theine: there's a commit that was misplaced order-wise in the function that I've cleaned up; that's what I'm testing.
[02:26] <crimsun_> theine: do you not have libata loaded?
[02:26] <theine> crimsun_: No, I don't
[02:26] <phire> I'm having problem with my resolution in 6.06, I've setup my xorg.conf so it should allow me to set 1152x864 at 75hz, but it is stuck in 1024x768, and I can't change it in 'screen resolution preferences'.. My xorg.conf -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15838
[02:26] <siriusnova> how do i check if libata is loaded?
[02:26] <theine> crimsun_: In fact, no *ata* modules at all
[02:26] <siriusnova> (stupid question i know)
[02:26] <theine> siriusnova: lsmod | grep libata
[02:26] <crimsun_> siriusnova: lsmod |grep ^libata
[02:26] <schalken> how come it keeps asking for my password on the automatic login?
[02:26] <app> Can you higlight keywords is this Gaim IRC client?
[02:26] <crimsun_> theine: where does it hang for you?
[02:27] <siriusnova> i dont have libata loaded
[02:27] <theine> crimsun_: The screen is black, the sleep light is on, but the fan is still running
[02:27] <siriusnova> theine - i have the same problem!
[02:27] <Mike-X2> HEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYyyy
[02:27] <theine> siriusnova: Cheers mate ;)
[02:27] <siriusnova> lol
[02:27] <crimsun_> siriusnova: yes, that's the same thing everyone is having
[02:28] <siriusnova> hmm but we dont have libata loaded :/
[02:28] <Mike-X2> CANT I get some help here or is this only fucktalkin
[02:28] <Rendo> What do you need help with mike?
[02:28] <Warbo> Mike-X2: You want to turn off X?
[02:28] <Rendo> Asking a question instead of cursing helps.
[02:28] <siriusnova> lol
[02:28] <Mike-X2> peeew at last
[02:28] <gavagai> Mike-X2, you are asking unclear questions and being an annoying jerk.
[02:28] <theine> Mike-X2: It's the latter really
[02:28] <Mike-X2> tyes in deed
[02:28] <gavagai> That's one reason why nobody might be answering.
[02:28] <Mike-X2> yes
[02:29] <gavagai> we aren't your mommy, you don't whine when you want something
[02:29] <Warbo> (bear in mind that I got killed by a terror-sw-us to reply to you)
[02:30] <Mike-X2> well u know linux better than me and i need help dont know how to explane my self in this topic
[02:30] <Warbo> Mike-X2: Reading your question (way) above it looks like you want to stop X. To do that press ctrl-alt-f1 to get into a console, log in and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[02:30] <xanavim> Mike-X2: just reboot
[02:30] <neuro_> helloo
[02:30] <neuro_> i'm twiddled
[02:30] <schalken> neuro_: twiddled?
[02:30] <neuro_> twiddled
[02:31] <Mike-X2> Warbo rgr
[02:31] <schalken> for some reason it has started to ask for my password on the automatic login, why is that?
[02:31] <neuro_> schalken: as in i be drinking ze wine
[02:31] <Rendo> it thinks you're a russian spy.
[02:32] <neuro_> tsk, russian spies
[02:32] <Mike-X2> Warbo: and thx m8
[02:32] <neuro_> they're the words
[02:32] <theine> schalken: That might be the gnome-keyring asking for a password
[02:32] <neuro_> erm, worst
[02:32] <theine> schalken: Are you using network-manager by any chance?
[02:32] <schalken> theine: ohhhh
[02:32] <schalken> theine: network manager? not that i know of.
[02:32] <phire> Could some one help me??
[02:32] <Rendo> With what phire?
[02:32] <phire> I'm having problem with my resolution in 6.06, I've setup my xorg.conf so it should allow me to set 1152x864 at 75hz, but it is stuck in 1024x768, and I can't change it in 'screen resolution preferences'.. My xorg.conf -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15838
[02:33] <Rendo> Someone else help him. :P
[02:33] <neuro_> yeah, mine is a bit chuffed as well
[02:33] <nickrud> schalken, that's a bug, it'll be fixed in the newest gdm
[02:33] <schalken> phire: and System -> Prefrences -> Screen Resolution doesn't work?
[02:33] <neuro_> 60hz locked since dapper dist-upgrade
[02:33] <eric__> warbo: could i have that thing agian? to type into custom...i lost it
[02:34] <Warbo> eric__: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main
[02:34] <phire> I have the choice of 1024x768 at 70hz only
[02:34] <schalken> nickrud: is there any workaround? can i somehow turn off this keyring thing?
[02:34] <Healot> change monitor spec in xorg setting, neuro_? manually or via dpkg-reconfigure
[02:34] <neuro_> phire: at least you can get 70hz :P
[02:34] <obtix> how do i give a single user complete and full acces to another users home dir forever? thanks..
[02:34] <neuro_> Healot: i didn't actually do anything, just let the upgrade manager magic do its stuff
[02:34] <phire> I did both
[02:34] <nickrud> schalken, it's some pam thing from the changelog, best to leave pam alone unless you know it well
[02:34] <neuro_> i say dist-ugprade out of habit, i used the upgrade manager
[02:35] <vilefridge> Is there a way to find out what Kernel version I have?  I need to download the kernel sources & headers, but all I see avail from Synaptic is 2.4.27.  Is this all I need?
[02:35] <eric__> warbo: i added it now what do i do
[02:35] <schalken> nickrud: whats pam?
[02:35] <neuro_> vilefridge: uname -a
[02:35] <Dial_tone> vilefridge: uname -a
[02:35] <neuro_> man, even drunk i can know stuff
[02:35] <Dial_tone> uname -a works too
[02:35] <Warbo> eric__: Hit "reload" in Synaptic then search for realplayer
[02:35] <neuro_> and if uname -a doesn't work, try uname -a
[02:36] <Warbo> vilefridge: Look for linux-headers not kernel-headers
[02:36] <eric__> warbo: W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[02:36] <vilefridge> neuro_, Dial_tone: Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-23-amd64-k8.  Hrmm, synaptic doesn't have kernel sources for this version?  Would it be ok to get 2.4.27 kernel source??  (I'm trying to install Nforce4 drivers and I'm told I need kernel source)
[02:36] <neuro_> xanavim: lemon, noooooooo
[02:36] <nickrud> schalken, the fix is in the repos now, you need to upgrade
[02:36] <Warbo> eric__: That's OK
[02:37] <Warbo> eric__: (I keep it disabled after installing what I want from it anyway. That stops the error)
[02:37] <schalken> nickrud: oooh it must be that update that i just appeared a minute ago :p
[02:37] <vilefridge> oh nm, i see it's called linux-source :)
[02:37] <nickrud> schalken, I don't know pam well, it's some sort of permission/security thingo
[02:37] <schalken> nickrud: thanks!
[02:37] <antox> hi all. I had upgrade from breezy to dapper and now it seems to be no audio card. what should I do?
[02:38] <neuro_> buy a new one
[02:38] <neuro_> sorry, i kid, i kid
[02:38] <obtix> how do i give a single user complete and full acces to another users home dir forever? thanks..
[02:38] <schalken> neuro_: maybe you should go to bed or something and come back when your sober :p
[02:38] <neuro_> schalken: thrpt
[02:38] <neuro_> obtix: chmod o+rx ~user could work
[02:39] <schalken> neuro_: thrpt?
[02:39] <neuro_> yeah, thrpt
[02:39] <bigfoot1> I am running aptiude for the 1st time in a long time and it says the following packages have been held back: desktop-file-utils gdm gtk2-engines-pixbuf libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-bin libgnomevfs2-common   libgnomevfs2-dev libgnomevfs2-extra libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common libgtk2.0-dev. Is this a problem? why are they being held back?
[02:39] <neuro_> the noise one's tongue makes when rasping against one's lips
[02:39] <schalken> neuro_: okay...then.
[02:39] <schalken> neuro_: lol okay.
[02:39] <eric__> warbo: thanks a bunch i finally got it
[02:39] <neuro_> bigfoot1: sounds like you need to do an apt-get dist-upgrade to me
[02:40] <bigfoot1> neuro_: ok
[02:40] <eric__> warbo: im not goingto disable it b/c i dont know how - this is complicated enough
[02:40] <bigfoot1> so do you guys recommend aptitude over apt-get everytime?
[02:40] <antox> did anyone have sound issues after upgrading to dapper?
[02:40] <harry> how do you mount the hardisk that just came from windows XP???
[02:40] <bigfoot1> if so, why then is "apt-get" always the command that is suggested here?
[02:40] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: I don't, no.
[02:40] <neuro_> overrated pile of doo doo
[02:40] <Healot> apt-get or aptitude doesn't really matter
[02:40] <neuro_> but that's just my opinion
[02:40] <Kitsune818> Has anyone else had a problem getting wine to recognize libjack?
[02:40] <Warbo> eric__: No problem. You may want to disable that repository now to stop the GPG warning (just untick the box next to it in Settings>Repositories) but I also use it for flashplayer
[02:40] <neuro_> and i'm drunk
[02:40] <neuro_> so what do i knwo
[02:40] <Dial_tone> I use synaptic locally and apt-get from cli
[02:41] <Snowfairy> What do I have to do to make previewing .ogg files in Nautilus work?
[02:41] <Dial_tone> ssh
[02:41] <nickrud> bigfoot1, either the dist-upgrade, or you need to tell aptitude to automatically upgrade installed packages (options -> miscellaneous)
[02:41] <bigfoot1> Healot: it does, or it did, when i installed xubuntu-desktop alongside my ubunu-desktop
[02:41] <bigfoot1> Healot: aptitude would have made removed the xubuntu apps a lot easier
[02:41] <neuro_> synaptic is nice for searching, but sometimes you just need to bring out the big dogs
[02:41] <neuro_> good old apt-get and apt-cache
[02:41] <Dial_tone> yes
[02:42] <harry> how do you mount the hardisk that just came from windows XP???
[02:42] <ardy> help How do I use authentication in access controls?
[02:42] <Warbo> !mount
[02:42] <ubotu> [mount]  the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:42] <theine> neuro_: Do you by any chance know how to display all local or obsolete packages via the command line?
[02:42] <ardy> help How do I use authentication in access controls? squid
[02:42] <Warbo> !windowsdrives
[02:42] <ubotu> [windowsdrives]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:42] <Dial_tone> I'm getting a 20" lcd that does 1600x1200 if it kills me
[02:42] <bigfoot1> neuro_: thanks.  apt-get dist-upgrade is insalling them now
[02:42] <Kitsune818> !wine
[02:42] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[02:42] <neuro_> theine: i do not
[02:42] <theine> neuro_: I.e. the same listing that you get from the Status tab in Synaptic
[02:42] <neuro_> theine: mainly because i'm twiddled
[02:42] <theine> neuro_: ah, ok
[02:43] <phire> so no one can help me?
[02:43] <neuro_> you're lucky i remember how to use apt-get
[02:43] <xanavim> neuro_: twiddled like I twiddle my thumbs?
[02:43] <neuro_> or indeed type
[02:43] <theine> neuro_: twiddled? have to look that up...
[02:43] <Snowfairy> What do I have to do to make previewing .ogg files in Nautilus work?
[02:43] <neuro_> xanavim: if you want to twiddle your thumbs, go right ahead
[02:43] <xanavim> hehehe
[02:43] <theine> gets it
[02:43] <neuro_> schweet
[02:43] <dddmt> hey im trying to install some packages, ive never used ubuntu or debian before, the package thing is confusing me
[02:44] <xanavim> theine: twiddling is what you do with your thumbs, don't listen to neuro_ he's drunk
[02:44] <neuro_> how can the package thing confuse?
[02:44] <neuro_> xanavim: EXACTLY
[02:44] <gigaclon> dddmt, are you using synaptic?
[02:44] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Wrapping splay with aoss worked fine. What do I do to fix splay to use the proper card?
[02:44] <dddmt> yeah looks like it
[02:44] <neuro_> applications -> add/remove
[02:44] <dddmt> it sucks
[02:44] <neuro_> i can't remember an easier application package management system
[02:44] <dddmt> how do i just type a command and get a package
[02:44] <dddmt> ok
[02:44] <neuro_> apt-get install packagename
[02:44] <harry> Warbo: i got this error message. i'm going to backup my files from my windows harddisk using ubuntu.
[02:44] <dddmt> well i dont know how it works
[02:44] <dddmt> i like portage
[02:44] <dddmt> :P
[02:44] <neuro_> apt-cache search packagename to find out what it's called
[02:44] <neuro_> portage sucks ass
[02:44] <dddmt> ok then apt-get install?
[02:45] <neuro_> apt-get install packagename
[02:45] <dddmt> totem-xine gxine libxine-extracodecs mplayer
[02:45] <dddmt> i want those packages
[02:45] <neuro_> i.e. apt-get install mtr
[02:45] <harry> Warbo: error: device /dev/hdc1 is not removable
[02:45] <harry> error: could not execute pmount
[02:45] <theine> dddmt: have you tried synaptic?
[02:45] <Madpilot> dddmt, "sudo apt-get install <packages>"
[02:45] <neuro_> ook, yeah, sudo if you're not magic like root is
[02:45] <wastrel> dddmt:  so  sudo apt-get install totem-xone gxine mplayer otherthing that's too long to type
[02:45] <Warbo> harry: That was from mount or umount?
[02:45] <Snowfairy> neeeeevermind... fixed :P
[02:45] <wastrel> dddmt:  to search for package names  use  apt-cache search
[02:45] <dddmt> it says i dont have the sources
[02:45] <Dial_tone> has anyone used vmplayer for both win32 and linux? is the performance near the same?
[02:46] <Madpilot> dddmt, have you got Universe & Multiverse enabled?
[02:46] <Madpilot> !universe
[02:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:46] <dddmt> Madpilot: i think so but im not sure
[02:46] <dddmt> yeah i read that it didnt help me
[02:46] <Warbo> harry: Try doing "sudo mount /devicename /mountpoint" and "sudo umount /mountpoint" where devicename is /dev/hda1 or something and /mountpoint is /media/something
[02:46] <Madpilot> dddmt, check the URL ubotu just posted above
[02:46] <Dial_tone> http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[02:46] <theine> dddmt: have you done "sudo apt-get update"?
[02:46] <neuro_> ubotu knows all
[02:46] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neuro_
[02:46] <antox> did anybody have issues with sound in dapper?
[02:46] <dddmt> please just walk me thru this i dont have time i have to go somewhere
[02:46] <harry> Warbo: mount i think? i opened the computer on PLACES and then double click on the the harddrive. i got the error message i showed to you
[02:46] <neuro_> ubotu: i have no need for your searching skills
[02:46] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neuro_
[02:47] <xanavim> !anybody
[02:47] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[02:47] <neuro_> ubotu: no, really, shush
[02:47] <ubotu> neuro_: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:47] <kbrooks> neuro_: language
[02:47] <Madpilot> neuro_, stop bugging the bot ;)
[02:47] <five_laptop> hrmrmr....
[02:47] <kbrooks> neuro_: sry
[02:47] <neuro_> Madpilot: no worries
[02:47] <neuro_> kbrooks: language?
[02:47] <neuro_> i swore not
[02:47] <emptyshell> I have Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 and was wondering if there is a simple installation method that would allow the optional de-selection of packages ?
[02:47] <kbrooks> neuro_: i read wrong place in backlog
[02:47] <dddmt> omg
[02:47] <neuro_> ha
[02:47] <dddmt> im going to lose it
[02:47] <kbrooks> neuro_: you swore before
[02:47] <dddmt> i just want to download mplayer
[02:47] <Madpilot> dddmt, the wiki pages  you've been given should walk you thru the stuff you need to do...
[02:47] <neuro_> yeah, i may have
[02:47] <dddmt> i tried to compile it and it says i dont have gcc
[02:47] <Healot> !info mplayer
[02:47] <Warbo> harry: I don't understand (or therefore like) the "Computer" way of mounting, but those commands (in a terminel) should work (make up a folder in /media for it to go in with "gksudo nautilus /media")
[02:47] <ubotu> mplayer: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), Packaged size: 3265 kB, Installed size: 7916 kB
[02:48] <theine> dddmt: pasting what you get in the terminal would help
[02:48] <dddmt> mad they dont
[02:48] <kbrooks> neuro_: i'm not  a boss :-)
[02:48] <Healot> !repose
[02:48] <xanavim> dddmt:sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:48] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[02:48] <theine> dddmt: not in this channel though...
[02:48] <Healot> !repos
[02:48] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:48] <Madpilot> dddmt, mplayer is in multiverse, no need to mess around compiling the thing
[02:48] <neuro_> kbrooks: /me bows prostrate nonetheless :0
[02:48] <neuro_> :0
[02:48] <wastrel> dddmt:  vi /etc/apt/sources.list,  add universe and multiverse repos, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install <your packages>
[02:48] <neuro_> :)
[02:48] <dddmt> how do i get it out of multiverse/?????
[02:48] <dddmt> im about to lose a screw here
[02:48] <BIAF> whats difference with the xubuntu desktop and alternate version
[02:48] <theine> dddmt: you don't need to get it out
[02:48] <neuro_> dddmt: do what wastrel says, wastrel is wise
[02:48] <Healot> damn, don't recommend vi for new users
[02:48] <Warbo> dddmt: Through a wormhole?
[02:48] <dddmt> it dsays i dont have ths sources
[02:49] <neuro_> Healot: noooo, vi is the One True Editor
[02:49] <Madpilot> dddmt, slow down and actually read some of the advice you're being given, OK?
[02:49] <dddmt> i dont know what a repository is
[02:49] <theine> neuro_: that's true
[02:49] <cafuego> Healot: You're right, emacs would be a better idea for newbies.
[02:49] <noodz> Hey, did anybody consider that a message should be put somewhere that the new updates break FGLRX and all the related packages?
[02:49] <Warbo> nano is an easier emacs IMHO
[02:49] <eric__> warbo: alright time for one more stupid question: i don't see a tick box to disable it...
[02:49] <wastrel> dddmt:  do you know how to use a text editor to edit a file?
[02:49] <Madpilot> dddmt, the repos are where Ubuntu gets it's packages from - they're online
[02:49] <neuro_> dddmt: do what the bot says
 To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:49] <Draconicus> Nano is a hell of a lot easier than VIM, I think.
[02:50] <wastrel> nano is harder than vim, if you know vim at all.  :p
[02:50] <neuro_> Draconicus: it is, but it's too close to emacs for my liking
[02:50] <Draconicus> It actually functions like youre typical text editor.
[02:50] <theine> Draconicus: Yes, but it's a hell of a lot less powerful as well
[02:50] <Warbo> eric__: There is a list of repositories (Apper LTS should be at the top) and on their left should be tick boxes
[02:50] <neuro_> your typical text editor is *not* vi :>
[02:50] <Draconicus> Since when does ENTER not mean a line return?!
[02:50] <Warbo> eric__: In Synaptic's Settings>Repositories
[02:50] <Madpilot> Folks, the random never-ending text editor debate can move to #ubuntu-offtopic, please...
[02:51] <dddmt> wait so which lines do i uncomment in this sources file?
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> neuro_: vi is the typical text editor on most unix / style systems
[02:51] <cafuego> Draconicus: What? Line feed or carriage return.
[02:51] <noodz> vi is too powerful for the average user... the idea is that nano and gedit make ubuntu more windows-like
[02:51] <neuro_> h3sp4wn: erm, yes, i know
[02:51] <noodz> too many options=lowered productivity
[02:51] <dust> i tried to play a wmv file but it came up with warning saying that there are too many video packets in the buffer then played an abstract colourful screen. how do i fix this?
[02:51] <neuro_> h3sp4wn: i've only been using it for about 13 years
[02:51] <Warbo> I used to despise Vi. Then, a few weeks ago, I found out how to use the : in it :)
[02:51] <Draconicus> cafuego: The latter, I guess.
[02:51] <cafuego> noodz: OSX like, thanks.
[02:51] <wastrel> dddmt:  anything in there that says universe or multiverse?  if not add them to one of the uncommented lines.
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> neuro_: So hence it is the typical text editor
[02:51] <wastrel> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[02:51] <neuro_> lies
[02:51] <dddmt> utheres not anything that says multiverse
[02:51] <neuro_> it's not typical
[02:51] <neuro_> it's magnificent
[02:51] <theine> noodz: I strongly disagree on your productivity statement
[02:51] <dddmt> isnt there a gui program to do this?
[02:51] <eric__> warbo my first one is "ubuntu cd 5.10 breezy badger" with no tick boxes
[02:51] <jshriver> Anyone here run MySQL under ubuntu? what do I need to do to set it up other than apt-get install mysql-server-4.1
[02:52] <jshriver> remeber a long time ago after installing from source had to change the user tables root passwd etc
[02:52] <Madpilot> dddmt, there is - check the walkthru here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:52] <gigaclon> dddmt, yes it is called synaptic
[02:52] <Dial_tone> you need to create a db and add users
[02:52] <neuro_> jshriver: you'll probably want to enable networking, bind to the local ip only and set the root password
[02:52] <jshriver> how do you change the root password in mysql?
[02:52] <Madpilot> gigaclon, Dapper has move repository management out of Synaptic for some dumb reason