[02:15] <koob_> hello all, Happy New Year
[02:16] <koob_> is anyone dual booting Android and Ubuntu here?
[02:40] <raster> mew
[03:02] <koob_> mew
[17:17] <prpplague> hmm, ok so who at canonical is in charge of support for panda these days?
[17:31] <infinity> prpplague: Define "support".
[17:32] <infinity> prpplague: Paolo still handles the kernels, but only for stable releases.
[17:32] <prpplague> infinity: i.e. who is the best person to coordinate with for the new memory configuration patches?
[17:33] <infinity> prpplague: Paolo.
[17:35] <infinity> prpplague: You'll want to file a bug against linux-ti-omap4 as well.  For bonus points, let me know what the bug number is so I can open SRU tasks for all supported releases (assuming you intend to make said patches work for 3.0/3.2/3.5)
[17:39] <prpplague> infinity: not sure if we need to back support the older versions
[17:44] <infinity> prpplague: Well, to precise, at least.
[23:36] <davecheney> has anyone managed to connect a bluetooth kb/mouse to their nexus 7 running 13.04 yet ?
[23:43] <ubuntubhoy> Only used physical connections myself
[23:51] <davecheney> ubuntubhoy: i'm not even sure bluetooth is working properly
[23:51] <davecheney> the indicator applet lights up
[23:51] <davecheney> but the control panel says bluetooth is off still


[00:43] <shinda_> hi all
[00:44] <shinda_> i have a question about creating a cd / dvd for backup and restore of a custom ubuntu instance.  Can anyone help?
[00:45] <coalwater> u want to backup the whole thing ? or what
[00:45] <shinda_> Yes.
[00:45] <shinda_> I started with Remastersys but it doesn't want to work.
[00:46] <shinda_> The cd won't boot the system.
[00:46] <IAmNotThatGuy> shinda_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem The tool in that list are handy
[00:46] <coalwater> o so u want to create a custom live cd ?
[00:46] <shinda_> i'll check it out.  thanks
[00:48] <shinda_> I was under the impression that since the installation of Ubuntu was itself custom, a custom boot cd was needed.
[00:48] <shinda_> i created the cd but the cd isn't live.
[00:49] <shinda_> The cd won't boot the system.
[00:49] <coalwater> sorry im still trying to understand, u already have ubuntu installed, or u just are trying to install it ?
[00:50] <shinda_> ubuntu is installed.
[00:50] <shinda_> with applications removed.
[00:51] <shinda_> I want to create a custom live cd for the installation.
[00:52] <shinda_> I was using Remastersys but there seems to be a bug issue that keeps the cd from booting the machine.
[00:52] <coalwater> ok check this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[00:54] <shinda_> coalwater... this is where I began the search for support for creating a custom live cd
[00:55] <coalwater> hm i dont know if i created an image of a live usb if it would work or not
[00:56] <shinda_> That's the problem I'm having.  An image has been created but I can't boot from it.
[00:57] <shinda_> So now, I'm trying to figure out what the next course of action should be.
[00:57] <shinda_> I have to leave for a bit.  I'll return in a few hours to revisit this matter.  Thanks for your support so far!
[00:58] <coalwater> i hope it works at some point
[02:16] <bobweaver> Hello there everybody any web designers in the house ? the reason I ask is for a salary question. I got offered a job and I think that they are trying to low ball me so I thought that I would ask what a junior web dev gets per hour ?
[02:16] <IAmNotThatGuy> bobweaver, #ubuntu-beginners-team for offtopic?
[02:18] <bobweaver> np
[02:19] <bobweaver> sorry
[02:19] <bobweaver> oh I should ask in the ubuntu loco room
[02:26] <seidos> bobweaver: it's probably a bell curve i'd guess.  plus you're competing with folks all over the world.  i heard a comp sci grad from india makes like $18/hr to start.  good luck
[05:16] <shinda_> Any info out there about how best to backup and restore an Ubuntu installation using a custom built live cd?
[05:17] <shinda_> I've attempted to build a live cd using Remastersys but it does not work.
[05:21] <holstein> yeah, its old... i heard it might be broken as of 11.04
[05:22] <holstein> shinda_: you want to have a LIVE cd made of your running OS?
[05:22] <holstein> you can backup with some backup tool
[05:22] <holstein> back in time?... clonezilla
[05:22] <shinda_> clonezilla...
[05:23] <holstein> thers UCK... ubuntu customization kit
[05:23] <holstein> that was failing for me yesterday
[05:23] <holstein> but, i assumed it was my own fault
[05:23] <shinda_> holstein, I think you might be right about Remastersys being broken.  The version of Ubuntu that I'm running is 10.04
[05:23] <holstein> shinda_: i got UCK to work in 10.04 though
[05:24] <shinda_> Ubuntu UCK.  I'll check it out.
[05:24] <holstein> shinda_: its not great... but it did work
[05:25] <shinda_> thanks holstein
[15:55] <seidos> how do i skip to eof in vi?
[15:57] <seidos> G?  never would've guessed
[15:57] <Snicksie> yeah, it seems so seidos : http://www.eec.com/business/vi.html
[15:58] <seidos> i was searching of "end" at this site: http://www.lagmonster.org/docs/vi.html
[15:58] <seidos> and it had "last"
[15:58] <seidos> d'oh
[15:58] <seidos> thanks Snicksie
[15:59] <Snicksie> I didnt know that either, just had the luck of finding it with google :)
[15:59] <seidos> yeah, but thanks just for being there :)
[16:02] <fulcrum> gg goes to the top of the file
[16:02] <fulcrum> G goes to the bottom
[16:03] <fulcrum> thats with vim not vi though
[16:03] <fulcrum> with vi you would do 1G to go to the top
[17:16] <s-fox> Hello.
[17:17] <IAmNotThatGuy> Heya s-fox
[17:17] <s-fox> Hello IAmNotThatGuy
[17:18] <IAmNotThatGuy> s-fox, Having a minute to look at the PM? =]
[17:57] <s-fox> Goodbye.


[04:23] <lotuspsychje> juisne is spamming in querys
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[04:23] <Flannel> lotuspsychje: Thanks.
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> np
[10:21] <Samurairm> hi
[10:21] <bazhang> hi
[10:21] <bazhang> is this about #ubuntu-it?
[10:22] <Unit193> Yes.
[10:23] <bazhang> #ubuntu-irc to resolve bans samu
[10:23] <bazhang> ach quit
[10:24] <Unit193> It's actually likely hit by a banforward.
[10:48] <ikonia> it's the "fuck you guy"
[10:48] <ikonia> #ubuntu-it have banned/unbanned him and spoken to him 15 times or so now
[10:48] <ikonia> so they have just flat banned him
[10:49] <ikonia> I guess his #ubuntu ban got removed in the clean up
[10:49] <bazhang> nice to know, thanks


[14:34] <vish> was there a decision on LibreOffice being used for Natty? instead of OOo ?
[14:36] <vish> i thought we were sticking to OOo, cant seem to find a bp or anything hinting that change..
[14:52] <vish> i see only one work item here : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-application-selection and not sure what the outcome of jcastro talk with LibO folks was..
[14:57] <jcastro> vish: someone from -desktop took that item iirc
[14:57] <jcastro> they talked to libreoffice, I don't recall who it was
[15:06] <vish> jcastro: cool.. thx. :)  i guess i'll ask again when seb is around
[15:07] <sense> Is there a Python version of GDesktopAppInfo, or do you have to use something else to launch a *.desktop file?
[15:13] <c_korn> import gio; gio.unix.DesktopAppInfo("nautilus-browser.desktop")
[15:13] <c_korn> sense: ^
[15:14] <sense> c_korn: Hurray! Thanks, I'll look into that.
[15:15] <c_korn> sense: just googled it and found this snippet in an ubuntu forum
[15:18] <sense> :) Your Google powers must be better than mine
[15:19] <vish> hehe, sense's google sense is weak ;p
[15:24] <vish> sense: i use the fusion icon to restart compiz.. not the best way but better than session restart i guess. :)
[15:24]  * vish  not sure what the command to restart compiz is..
[15:28] <sense> vish: But in Unity the panel and launcher go down with Compiz, because Unity is a Compiz plugin.
[15:28] <sense> It crashed again shortly after I logged in. I'll switch to the 'classic' desktop!
[15:42] <Amaranth> vish: `compiz &`
[15:42] <Amaranth> :D
[15:43] <vish> doh! :D
[15:44] <vish> Amaranth: ah! i was always trying "compiz --replace" when it crashed :/
[15:44] <Amaranth> If you just run `compiz` it automatically adds the --replace and (unless it has changed) a couple more things
[15:44] <Amaranth> If you specify any arguments to it you need to specify _all_ of the arguments to it
[15:45] <vish> oh!
[15:45] <Amaranth> Yeah...
[15:46] <Amaranth> Was trying to make it easy for people to use but also possible for advanced users to do whatever they want
[15:46] <vish> Amaranth: thx.. was kinda a pain when i was testing unity last cycle.. mutter kept crashing then ;)
[16:30] <sense> What code does launch *.desktop files in GNOME/Unity?
[16:36] <sense> I'm using gio.unix.DesktopAppInfo, but I cannot get startup notification to work. Does anyone know what to do?
[16:42] <sense> I'm now trying gtk.gdk.AppLaunchContext instead of gio.AppLaunchContext. Lets see if that works.
[16:48] <sense> I think it is working now.
[17:38] <ari-tczew> didrocks: can you help with one FTBFS due to vala?
[17:39] <didrocks> ari-tczew: was just going to leave… so not sure I can stay long enough
[17:39] <didrocks> ari-tczew: just a tip on that:
[17:39] <didrocks> we have two versions of vala in natty
[17:40] <didrocks> try with each, vala is known for some langage regression
[17:40] <ari-tczew> didrocks: you touched this package: bug 681975
[17:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 681975 in pdf-presenter-console (Ubuntu) "Merge pdf-presenter-console 1.1.1+git.02dfcf-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681975
[17:41] <didrocks> did I?
[17:41] <didrocks> oh right, the Gdk.color
[17:41] <ari-tczew> didrocks: that's right, and there is still FTBFS
[17:43] <didrocks> ari-tczew: maybe the gdk.color patch isn't useful anymore? did you try to ping the debian maintainer?
[17:43] <didrocks> I think debian exp as a new vala which is on the same level than ubuntu
[17:43] <ari-tczew> didrocks: I didn't.
[17:44] <didrocks> ari-tczew: maybe try it there? I'm not that familiar with vala I'm afraid ::
[17:44] <didrocks> ari-tczew: also, #vala-dev on gimp.net are quite friendly
[17:45] <didrocks> with the FTBFS output, they can maybe be a good resource
[17:46] <ari-tczew> didrocks: #vala-dev which server?
[17:49] <didrocks> ari-tczew: on the gimp.net network
[17:50] <ari-tczew> didrocks: ah, I thought that you suggest to find a help on website gimp.net
[17:52] <didrocks> ari-tczew: no, it's an IRC channel
[17:53] <didrocks> with great people :)
[17:53] <ari-tczew> didrocks: ok, I'll get in touch
[17:53] <didrocks> (ok, really going now)
[17:53] <didrocks> ari-tczew: nice!
[17:53] <didrocks> ari-tczew: enjoy your week-end :)
[17:54] <ari-tczew> ehh, my weekend is only work :( unfortunately
[19:02] <RenatoSilva> how to undo apt-get build-dep?