[00:00] <PlasmaSheep> jez__: one line please
[00:00] <mneptok> PlasmaSheep: make a partition formatted FAT32. *far* fewer issues mounting it and getting perms settled.
[00:00] <d_ed> under "Package"
[00:00] <tx> no one uses SLI i guess
[00:00] <jazz_> can i remove pulse audio? my volume randomly keeps lowering and or muting
[00:00] <koshari> PlasmaSheep google fstab ntfs and 8 of the forst ten results give you working examples
[00:00] <MrUnix> jazz_, Many people has issues with Pulse audio. Try googling your specific issue.
[00:00] <MrUnix> *have
[00:01] <jez__> darnit this dhcpd is such a pain
[00:01] <jazz_> thing is i googled and nothing was found for my specifics
[00:01] <jez__> i just need to get it to respond to requests on eth2
[00:01] <PlasmaSheep> mneptok: my hard drive is 50 gb. Why would I make another partition, and why would I want to use it?
[00:01] <jazz_> either the problem was on laptops or intrepid, im on 9.10
[00:01] <PlasmaSheep> koshari: okay
[00:01] <PlasmaSheep> thanks
[00:01] <DreamDemon|compi> jez__, Can I PM you about it?
[00:02] <Ferris-> i just did a partial upgrade on 9.04. it's asking me whether i want to replace the customized configuration file '/etc/belocs/locale-gen.conf', and under 'difference between the files' it has no text.
[00:02] <jez__> sure
[00:02] <younes> Hi, Why do I have the feeling that what I execute in a ssh session is started locally? When I run firefox in a ssh session, all my bookmarks, frontpage, language etc are local.. that in particular doesnt feel very remote to me
[00:02] <jazz_> so can pulse audio be removed or will i lose audio all together,
[00:02] <Ferris-> Last time i upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, my install broke. Will i be okay to overwrite that config file?
[00:02] <PlasmaSheep> Ferris-: one line please
[00:02] <jazz_> i had no problems till 2 nights ago when i reinstalled ubuntu 9.10
[00:03] <jellow> jazz_: You can reomve pulse audio
[00:03] <Ferris-> they're long lines, PlasmaSheep. but okay.
[00:03] <fumanchu182> Hello, I have installed Apache and MySQL via synaptics but I would like it if they did not start up when the system starts, this is my laptop not a server so I don't need the extra overhead all the time.
[00:03] <koshari> mneptok fat 32 has heaps of issues, no journal, no files bigger than 4 gig
[00:03] <maggs> ah, the only channel where it scrolls through the nicks for 2 seconds upon joining
[00:03] <Ferris-> Condensed: <Ferris-> i just did a partial upgrade on 9.04. it's asking me whether i want to replace the customized configuration file '/etc/belocs/locale-gen.conf', and under 'difference between the files' it has no text. Last time i upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, my install broke. Will i be okay to overwrite that config file?
[00:04] <saviorfromthenor> will 9.10 work if i install it on an amd athlon?
[00:04] <Losha> jazz_: I had good luck with this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html. I just ignored the alsa gui part....
[00:04] <maggs> does anyone have any experience with firefly media server here?
[00:04] <d_ed> saviorfromthenor: no reason why it won't
[00:04] <saviorfromthenor> i mean the old athlon
[00:04] <maggs> nevermind, may have what i was looking for
[00:05] <saviorfromthenor> i tried it, it doesnt work
[00:05] <mneptok> koshari: which is why i asked if files >4GB are used before recommending FAT32
[00:05] <Ferris-> ill just go for it. ha.
[00:05] <koshari> saviorfromthenor the very first athlon, (the 500mhz slot a) one will work fine with x86 32bit ubuntu
[00:05] <d_ed> saviorfromthenor: "it doesn't work" isnt' very specific
[00:05] <jazz_> how all of a sudden will something break? i mean i did a fresh install the night before userday  up till then i had no problem
[00:05] <d_ed> at what point doesn't it work
[00:05] <Ferris-> if it doesnt work ill download the latest ubuntu overnight
[00:05] <koshari> mneptok theres nothing wrong with ntfs support these days
[00:05] <saviorfromthenor> hehe sorry to be a newbie
[00:05] <d_ed> also make sure you're installing the 32bit ubuntu on it, not 64bit
[00:05] <jazz_> thanks for link losha, what is KDE like?
[00:06] <Andorin> Okay, so, I had this problem not long ago, and I can't remember what I did to solve it... I removed Emerald to go back to metacity, and now when I log in, my Visual Effects are set from Normal to None, which of course disables compositing. I think it was a permissions thing.
[00:06] <mneptok> koshari: unless you ever want to mount a partition under OSX or some other OS with no NTFS support
[00:06] <gizmobay> I have two computers. Both have apt-file installed. It works on one but not the other
[00:06] <saviorfromthenor> i think does not detect the livecd
[00:06] <d_ed> aha
[00:06] <gizmobay> Any ideas of where I'm going wrong
[00:06] <gizmobay> sudo apt-file update
[00:06] <Losha> jazz_: I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. KDE is like gnome, only....different....
[00:06] <d_ed> check all your bios settings -  tell it to boot from CD, not the HDs
[00:06] <koshari> mneptok well weather ntfs can be mounted on osx is hardly withing the scope of this forum
[00:07] <gizmobay> apt-file search nividia
[00:07] <saviorfromthenor> i did,
[00:07] <d_ed> it's not getting as far as trying to load ubuntu in order to go wrong
[00:07] <gizmobay> back to command prompt
[00:07] <DreamDemon|compi> hmmm - I used to know a gizmoray
[00:07] <gizmobay> not me
[00:08]  * mneptok sighs
[00:08] <saviorfromthenor> the only livecd i managed to make it work was those of xcfe
[00:08] <jazz_> lol only different there in squats the toad, yeah whats different ?
[00:08] <Losha> koshari: 'nothing wrong with ntfs support' is a little bit of an overstatement. It works ok, but if you ever get a corruption, you'll need a windows system to run a proper chkdsk, so not all issues can be recovered from....
[00:08] <saviorfromthenor> i see
[00:08] <koshari> saviorfromthenor i would suggest ram would be the big issue,
[00:08] <evilsherpa> morning all
[00:09] <saviorfromthenor> i have 512mb
[00:09] <Ferris-> my install didnt die. yay.
[00:09] <jazz_> if i install kubuntu will i still have acces to my  ubuntu menus? and files just  on a different session?
[00:09] <koshari> Losha ok, you have a point
[00:09] <scunizi> jazz_: if they are both installed yes
[00:09] <jazz_> speaking about ntfs....
[00:10] <koshari> saviorfromthenor ok that should be suffient, you can also try a usb key
[00:10] <mneptok> koshari: try "which fsck.vfat"
[00:10] <koshari> saviorfromthenor providing your bios supports booting from usb of course
[00:10] <elspru> how do i set which services run on the command line?
[00:10] <evilsherpa> is there a NAS master in the house.......... mount the nas....... i cunna do it, google says i dont know what im talking about, yeh kickin me when im down
[00:10] <elspru> like what's the command for it...
[00:10] <jazz_> i just got a used hdd 260gig windows xp media edition is installed.. i load it on the comp and ubuntu says it has bad sectors.
[00:10] <zig_> Will Linux have an equivelant to DirectCompute?
[00:11] <younes> ssh crcd.nsa.gov -p 72356 -u nordis:trevelourd!com7glow
[00:11] <scunizi> zig_: what is DirectCompute?
[00:11] <younes> whoops wrong window.. im screewed
[00:11] <Losha> koshari: I would have to describe ntfs as ok for casual use, but not production quality.
[00:11] <zig_> It's a DirectX API for offloading CPU load to a GPU
[00:11] <younes> damn "cursor over window activation"
[00:11] <mneptok> Losha: that same sentiment applies to users of Windows ;)
[00:11] <scunizi> younes: time to change your credentials :)
[00:12] <saviorfromthenor> the motherboard is an old asus, i tried my liveusb, same thing, it proceeds to windows
[00:12] <jazz_> bad sectors = totally ruined yes?
[00:12] <elspru> please how to set init apache?
[00:12] <daleharvey> urm, anyone know how I get out of gnome-shell? :P
[00:12] <koshari> Losha like always, data isnt data unles there are 3 unique copies of it
[00:12] <ganymede> younes, no problem, that host doesn't resolve here
[00:12] <daftykins> jazz_: the OS can avoid using those areas, but it's likely to get worse so i wouldn't keep it
[00:12] <Losha> mneptok: nevertheless, if you go in for Lasik surgery, you'll find the computers in the OR running windows....
[00:12] <ardchoille> daleharvey: alt+f2. type in: metacity --replace  and then run
[00:12] <mneptok> Losha: that's why i wear corrective lenses
[00:13] <Losha> mneptok: me too...
[00:13] <younes> I know.. and there's portknocking among other sercurities.. puh, but not good
[00:13] <scunizi> zig_: well.. since linux doesn't use directx then it would have to utilize something else.. opengl.. or some other library that allows you to do that.. I'd imagine it's already been done but not sure if it's opensource or not..
[00:13] <daleharvey> awesome, cheers
[00:13]  * mneptok does not need a GPF in his eye
[00:13] <tracktroll> how do you create a 100mb blank image file using dd?
[00:13] <koshari> Losha the front ends maybe , all mission critical stuff runs on dedicated hardware/software, only the operatore HMI has windows
[00:13] <ganymede> younes, and i don't believe any sane implementation of ssh client should let you specify a password on the command line
[00:13] <Andorin> Okay, so, I had this problem not long ago, and I can't remember what I did to solve it... I removed Emerald to go back to metacity, and now when I log in, my Visual Effects are set from Normal to None, which of course disables compositing. I think it was a permissions thing.
[00:14] <saviorfromthenor> good day to everyone
[00:14] <Losha> koshari: it's still data if there's only one copy. It just that it turns into toast so much more easily...
[00:14] <tracktroll> dd command is scary, i don't want to use it without some advice
[00:14] <younes> ganymede: it's a NSA costum ssh client
[00:14] <younes> custom*
[00:14] <koshari> Losha the statement isnt a litereal one,
[00:15] <ganymede> younes, so you're like an NSA spy currently in sweden?
[00:15] <the_cyber_guy> how to reinstall realtek ethernet driver in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[00:15] <mneptok> younes: and seeing that you are connecting from .se, you would not have the clearances to connect to NSA hosts. and any NSA authorized person would not be noob enough to use Chatzilla. so please stop.
[00:15] <koshari> tracktroll you could use the whimps way and use gparted
[00:15]  * scunizi stands up and high 5's mneptok
[00:16] <tracktroll> koshari, i want to mount the image in some emulators
[00:16] <jazz_> im using  xchat, is everyone here using  it as well? or used other  programes to connect to the room,
[00:16] <ganymede> mneptok, would be more interesting if you used a host that actually resolves and then maybe exploited a flaw in the ssh client to gain a shell on anyone's computer who tried sshing in to the host he specified
[00:16] <ZykoticK9> jazz_, xchat is a very popular choice
[00:16] <tracktroll> dd if=/dev/zero of=file1G.tmp bs=100M count=1
[00:16] <scunizi> jazz_: xchat, irssi, weechat, finch, Quassel, chatzilla, etc etc
[00:16] <daleharvey> I use empathy, but im writing my own chat client as well
[00:17] <tx> hello, i'm having an issue getting my second nvidia card to be recognized although it appears in lspci. this error shows up in dmesg "NVRM: rm_init_adapter(1) failed"
[00:17] <saviorfromthenor> slow coonection here
[00:17] <ganymede> mneptok, he*
[00:17] <apoc90> hey can somebody help me? i'm having somewhat of a small issue, i just installed ubuntu
[00:17] <logan_> Epic is the only real chat client. =P
[00:17] <ganymede> !ask | apoc90
[00:17] <Prodego> that IS an issue :P
[00:17] <Xavatar> Jazz,  AndChat
[00:17] <logan_> !ask | apoc90
[00:17] <scunizi> tx: I don't think xrandr is setup for 2 unique cards.. does each card have 2 heads?
[00:17] <jofo> Hello !
[00:17] <PeterT> apoc90: No, why would we help you in an #ubuntu channel?
[00:17] <zig_> Well, in that case... does anyone know of an OpenGL equivelant to DirectCompute?
[00:17] <firebladez86> hi!
[00:17] <saviorfromthenor> hello
[00:17] <ardchoille> Xavatar: andchat? I was just about to install that on my cliq
[00:17] <logan_> !hi | firebladez86
[00:18] <PeterT> !ask | PeterT
[00:18] <jofo> I have a problem with my printer
[00:18] <tx> scunizi: yes but the second card is unused as far as the external outputs go
[00:18] <mneptok> apoc90: ask a question
[00:18] <jofo> A Samsung CLP-310
[00:18] <jofo> It always prints the same error message.
[00:18] <Lungan> Anyone else having problems with the newest
[00:18] <Lungan> version of wicd
[00:19] <ganymede> how would i report that ubottu has bad grammer in some of his/her factoids?
[00:19] <jazz_> so we all use different methods to get into this room? i've never used IRC or even chated in chat rooms till userday
[00:19] <queso> ganymede, ardchoille: okay, thanks :)
[00:19] <ardchoille> ganymede: /join #ubuntu-bots
[00:19] <skrite> not directly on topic, but can someone reccomend a play to buy legal mp3s online besides itunes and amazon (don't have a piece i am looking for) ?
[00:19] <younes> NSA is intresting like a lot of such instances.. they have nice tools, organization and very intresting people,, well, lets return to topic
[00:19] <evilsherpa> mount Nas200 successfully, please assist
[00:19] <scunizi> tx: not really sure on this but I believe it's typically a custome xorg.conf setup thing.. you might .. if you're adventurous.. install the nvidia drivers that come directly from nvidia.. at the end of that install it will typically ask if you want to write to the xorg.conf file.. xorg will then override xrandr.
[00:19] <apoc90> ok i backed up a great deal of my favorites/bookmarks/ images and the like on a usb drive, and when i try to access it in computer:///, it won't actually access the drive, ill just keep clicking it and nothing happens. how can i access the usb drive?
[00:19] <ZykoticK9> ganymede, FYI i was told ubottu is female
[00:19] <ardchoille> ubottu is a "she"
[00:20] <logan_> ardchoille, lies
[00:20] <logan_> apoc90, lsusb
[00:20] <ganymede> ZykoticK9, i guess it's typical for nerds to call their bots female... =/
[00:20] <Losha> jazz_: despite being new to you, irc is in fact an old protocol, so there are lots of (more or less compatible) clients....
[00:20] <ardchoille> logan_: ?
[00:20] <gizmobay> figured it out. Had to clear .cache/apt-file folder
[00:20] <PeterT> ubottu is a abot
[00:20] <LinoSP> Hi  what distro do you recomend me to install in a TOSHIBA Satellite 1555CDS with 5GB HDD & 32MB RAM
[00:20] <Pici> !usage | ganymede see the part about submitting factoids
[00:20] <logan_> apoc90, lsusb and see where the usb drive is located, mount it and then open it via CLI.
[00:20] <magical> LinoSP, debian with the low memory installer
[00:20] <logan_> ardchoille, Ubottu is genderless
[00:20] <apoc90> umm you lost me, do i do that in console?
[00:20] <logan_> It's the human bot.
[00:21] <ganymede> ardchoille, i would like the point out the potential humor in you saying that ubottu is female and then it responding with, "please don't think i'm intelligent"
[00:21] <logan_> apoc90, Yes, pull up a console and run "lsusb"
[00:21] <saviorfromthenor> be right back
[00:21] <apoc90> ok
[00:21] <LinoSP> magical: I have tried dsl but it hangs at startup
[00:22] <tx> scunizi: i've exhausted every possibility i could think of, so i'll give that a shot.  thanks and maybe brb. :)
[00:22] <scunizi> tx: do you know how to do it
[00:22] <scunizi> ?
[00:22] <apoc90> here i found it: Bus 005 Device 002: ID 058f:9360 Alcor Micro Corp. 8-in-1 Media Card Reader, now what should i do?
[00:22] <magical> LinoSP, does it hang if you tell it not to load X?
[00:22] <magical> LinoSP, what happens if you tell it to boot to a console (by setting the boot parameters)
[00:22] <jazz_> whats the link to the florida loco room? it was given to me last night, and  i clicked mark as favorite but now  i cant find it
[00:22] <LinoSP> i havent tried  im gonna do it now
[00:23] <scunizi> tx: you have to uninstall the ubuntu supplied nvidia driver first... and install build-essential.. shutdown gdm and then install the driver.
[00:23] <Losha> LinoSP: lots of (too many?) choices: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Minimal_Linux_distros
[00:24] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[00:24] <DreamDemon|compi> ohhhh a netsplit
[00:25] <jazz_> .losha i began using a computer cuz i seen my neighbor playing everquest, then i went to starwars galaxies to WoW. and now here i am...
[00:25] <jazz_> whats a netsplit?
[00:25] <tx> scunizi: i can just mv the current nvidia module out of lib temporarily correct?
[00:25] <Pici> !netsplit | jazz_
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> Tiny Core Linux - is a very nice Ultra Mini disrto. :) 10mb for the 'base' of it.
[00:25]  * Losha These netsplits have been going on for weeks...
[00:25] <scunizi> tx: the best way to avoid conflict is uninstall it.. it's gotta take the kernel mod out as well.
[00:25] <PeterT> !hi | PeterT
[00:25] <ganymede> is the netsplit over? i don't have join/part messages and i see 1286 people in the channel
[00:25] <hydester> hi.  i have set up virtual servers on conf.d with fedora.  i am trying to do the same on ubuntu and it sorta works.  that is, i set up the first vserver with no problems.  added a second and things appeared to work.  although now both hostnames return the same (second) site.  i was reading about a2ensite and am not sure if this is instead of conf.d or is it required to make vhosts work on ubuntu/apache?
[00:25] <Pici> !msgthebot > PeterT
[00:25] <DreamDemon> Woot!  slimmed down custom kernel compile DONE!  Testing time!
[00:26] <tx> scunizi: alright i'll do that instead
[00:26] <PeterT> !ugotit > Pici
[00:26] <jazz_> is that to redistribute the server load?
[00:26] <Pici> PeterT: Please don't.
[00:26] <PeterT> what?
[00:26] <Askatu> hi
[00:26] <DreamDemon> jazz_, simply put, yes
[00:27] <Barridus> anyone know what happened to Skype?  it appears to no longer be on Medibuntu non-free repository
[00:27] <Pici> PeterT: Please /msg ubottu   if you intend to play with the bot.
[00:27] <PeterT> yes
[00:27] <apoc90> Can anyone let me know how i can access my usb drive? It won't let me open it. Logan was helping me but he left and i don't know what to do. I just did lsusb, and now what
[00:27] <PeterT> is there a list of commands
[00:27] <Barridus> !skype
[00:27] <Pici> PeterT: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[00:27] <PeterT> Pici: Apparently you can't read that "ugotit" == you got it
[00:28] <Losha> jazz_: I don't agree, actually. IMO, a netsplit is usually due to a network outage, or sometimes, deliberate sabotage...
[00:28] <PeterT> thanks Pici
[00:28] <Barridus> i thought it meant breasts from yugoslavia
[00:28] <BluesKaj> apoc , you should see the usb drive in nautilus
[00:28] <LinoSP> magical: dsl hangs saying     Processor 0 is AMD-K6 .........
[00:28] <apoc90> is nautilus the console or the explorer?
[00:28] <magn3ts> I simply can not believe that there is not a good column-based file browser for Ubuntu/Linux.
[00:29] <magn3ts> Finder has Ubuntu beat? for shame.
[00:29] <danopia> column-based?
[00:29] <Barridus> apoc90, nautilus is the explorer like gui
[00:29] <BluesKaj> !lol | PeterT
[00:29] <Admin__> what's the easiest software that enlarge photos without losing quality?
[00:29] <PeterT> stop highlighting me!
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  theres dozens of file managers out there you can use.
[00:29] <apoc90> yeah i see it, but i can't actually go into it and see the contents. it just keeps clicking.
[00:29] <koshari> Admin__ you cannot enlarge without losing quality
[00:29]  * LinoSP downloading puppy
[00:29] <PeterT> I didn't even use lol or omg
[00:30] <Losha> LinoSP: did you see this? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Minimal_Linux_distros
[00:30] <Admin__> koshari, I mean without losing too much quality
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> LinoSP:  depending on your needs 'TinyCoreLinux' might do what you want
[00:30] <Losha> PeterT: yet someone told you off anyway. Great, isn't it?
[00:30] <jazz_> i seethanks losha....  got to go  foods here .
[00:30] <LinoSP> Losha: yeah mi next try will be Absolute linux
[00:31] <koshari> Admin__ all apps will loose the same qualiry regarding how much you enlarge them,
[00:31] <Pici> LinoSP: It would be more appropriate to ask in ##linux than in #ubuntu, as anything thats not Ubuntu isn't on-topic or supported here.
[00:31] <ganymede> !no, ask is <reply> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer, he or she will most likely reply. :-)
[00:31] <koshari> Admin__ however gimp is installed by default so it would be logical to use that to resize
[00:31] <LinoSP> Pici ok
[00:32] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, Dolphin is the only file manager that has this feature and honestly, KDE apps just look like shit in GNOME
[00:32] <Weems> having a erorr with nvidia http://pastie.org/794416
[00:32] <Weems> error*
[00:32] <ganymede> magn3ts, this is apparently a family-friendly channel so your language should reflect that
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  ive no idea what feature you are even talking about. So good luck.
[00:34]  * Dr_Willis goes back to using 'mc' for his file manager to get work done.
[00:35] <koshari> magn3ts gnome commander?
[00:36] <sweetandy> what about bash? best file manager I'm aware of for *any* linux.
[00:36] <sweetandy> the most features, too
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> sweetandy:  real men use 'dd' :)
[00:36] <cmmenke> anyone know the fix for super slow vobcopy speeds?
[00:37] <koshari> Dr_Willis real men use punch cards and machine code
[00:37] <ganymede> koshari, real men go outside and mate
[00:37] <magn3ts> ganymede, I forget my place
[00:38] <mougin> st
[00:38] <mougin> vous etes la
[00:38] <mougin> .???
[00:38] <matsu> hello
[00:38] <Losha> cmmenke: slow speeds usually mean retries due to disk errors. Clean the disks with windex, and/or try a different dvd reader. Some have better reading/error correction than others....
[00:38] <Pici> !fr | mougin
[00:39] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, it just puts the folder hierarchy its columns. Its vastly easier to navigate quickly. http://www.thinkdigit.com/FCKeditor/uploads/dolphin-columns.png
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> koshari:  been there done that.. that was a job for the interns.
[00:39] <mougin> alors comment je fait je suis debutant
[00:39] <mneptok> mougin: ou #ubuntu-qc, si vous etes Quebecois(e) ;)
[00:39] <ganymede> Weems, have you verified that that version of nvidia drivers supports the kernel you are using? IIRC, legacy nvidia drivers are no longer updated with newest Xorg/kernel updates
[00:39] <Samp> so my unix textbook says that in vi, typing the command d7,14 while not in insert or command mode will delete lines 7 through 14 from the buffer. I can't get that to happen; every time I do that command it adds lines to the buffer.
[00:39] <mougin> ubotttu
[00:39] <ganymede> Weems, but that may just be the 7x series drivers
[00:39] <mougin> nn je suis africain
[00:40] <mougin> je vis en cote d'ivoire
[00:40] <mneptok> mougin: /join #ubuntu-fr
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  check out gnome3's progress i guess.
[00:40] <mneptok> mougin: ^^^ comme ca ^^^
[00:40] <mougin> expilque moi je suis debutant
[00:40] <evilsherpa> hey can anyone direct me in the direction of a  ubuntu how to mount nas successfully tutorial, because ive tried all the ones i can find but still no nas love
[00:40] <mougin> mneptok t'as un msn ?
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> Samp:  you mean it adds lines to the current file/display?  Hmm..
[00:41] <mneptok> mougin: ecrivez-vous "/join #ubuntu-fr" (sans "") en vote clavier
[00:41] <mneptok> *votre
[00:41] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, sadly, GNOME3 has no plans to replace nautlius and nautilus's proposed changes don't include column browsing.
[00:41] <scunizi> evilsherpa: http://paperjammed.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/20090214-creating-a-basic-nas-with-ubuntu-linux.pdf
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> Samp:  i cant get the , thing to work..
[00:42] <magn3ts> koshari, haha, just installed it, knew I'd heard of it before. Not the feature I was after, thanks though.
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> Samp:   perhapd d:8,12
[00:42] <evilsherpa> scunizi, id kiss you, but i dont know you, so thanks
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Samp:  that works for me.   the : makes the differance
[00:43] <Samp> dr_willis: I'll try that
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Samp:  http://www.lagmonster.org/docs/vi.html
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Ranges may precede most "colon" commands and cause them to be executed on a line or lines. For example :3,7d would delete lines 3-7.
[00:44] <scunizi> evilsherpa: paypal?
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> Samp:   hmm differnt syntax then  d:8,12
[00:44] <tracktroll> how do you create image files for emulators that have no ability to format disks?? dd if=/dev/zero of=file1G.tmp bs=20M count=1
[00:44] <Maletor> Hello, I need some serious help. I can get AC3 to work, yet DTS will not. I have 7.1 speakers. What tests can I run?
[00:44] <Ferris-> would anyone like to help me fix my atheros drivers? ._. in jaunty... this is my second day of trying. Last time it took four. haha.
[00:45] <evilsherpa> scunzini, me no spreke de englaize
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> tracktroll:  you can use mkfs on the file i recall.. some how.
[00:45] <tracktroll> aaaaaah
[00:45] <Hilikus> how do i disable postfix logging of every mail and leave it only to log errors? my syslog if full of postfix crap
[00:45] <scunizi> evilsherpa: kan ein bissel deutsch spreken?.. but not write .. :))
[00:45] <hajmola> can't get video to work through empathy (gchat)....
[00:46] <Samp> ok, d:1,3 deleted lines 1 and 2
[00:46] <Samp> I guess buffer means the text currently in the file?
[00:46] <evilsherpa> scunizi - thats like my ubuntu - except i cant speak it or write it, how are these words getting out whats going on
[00:46] <scunizi> evilsherpa: not sure if you know about it or not.. but outside of google.. give www.google.com/linux a try sometime.
[00:47] <hajmola> whenever I try to video over gchat through empathy, the window that pops up keeps saying "disconnected"
[00:47] <Samp> grr, the syntax d:8,9 deletes everything before 9
[00:47] <koshari> Samp not nessesarily, buffer generally means in ram but hasnt nessesarll been written to disk
[00:47] <_2> can someone lend a hand with wired networking?   new install of 9.10 and it can't ping anything beyond <IP_ADDRESS>    however i am sshed into <IP_ADDRESS> and talking to you from there.
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> Samp:  yes. :) vi has 'named buffers' the term buffer is often overused
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> Samp:  hmm.. it dident do that here
[00:48] <hajmola> _2, could it be your DNS?
[00:48] <_2> hajmola nope
[00:49] <_2> hajmola /etc/resolv.conf read the same on both boxen
[00:49] <Samp> typing d is invisible, right?
[00:49] <Samp> it makes no visual effect on vi?
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> Samp:  in normal mode. yes.
[00:49] <_2> hajmola i also tried pinging dirrect ip
[00:49] <Samp> ok
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> Samp:  thers a vitutor or vimtutor program out ya can play with :)
[00:49] <elexodus> Hey everyone, just upgraded my hard drive capacity, but lost my 2.6.31-17-generic kernel. Any chance I could get it beck? Thanks in advance.
[00:50] <Maletor> Hello, I need some serious help. I can get AC3 to work, yet DTS will not. I have 7.1 speakers
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> Samp:  'vimtutor'
[00:50] <Samp> Dr_Willis: guess I gotta do that, 'cause this book is not helping :(
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> Samp:  ive got a vi book or 3 and you just have to read, then apply, then use, then go back.
[00:50] <_2> hajmola route shows the correct default gateway too.   and i'm stumped
[00:50] <koshari> anyone know how i can stream jjj on linux ? http://www.abc.net.au/streaming/triplej/triplej.m3u
[00:50] <hajmola> _2, do you have a modem and a router? For mine if the DHCP server is turned on in both, it gives me weird problems like that
[00:50] <scunizi> elexodus: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade .. if the system is functional.. should pull it in if it's a normal kernel upgrade
[00:51] <hajmola> _2, otherwise I got nothing else ... sorry
[00:51] <_2> hajmola no dhcp at all.   :(
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> Samp:  every so often i go back and reread/reskim my vi books/guides/ and relearn somthing ive skipped
[00:51] <scunizi> _2: is it dsl?
[00:51] <hajmola> _2, sorry dude
[00:52] <_2> scunizi no dialup internal modem on the <IP_ADDRESS> box
[00:52] <Samp> lol vi is not easy.
[00:52] <evilsherpa> scunizi - thats thanks for that, its was a cool read, i already have a nas, that can be accessed from my other ubuntu machine, this is a new machine and i cant seem to get it to connect, even if i use the same smbcredentials as the laptop, and the same fstab file, i just get this mount error 13 permission denied error
[00:52] <elexodus> scunizi: I'm currently working off of sda4. I need to access my previous desktop on sda3. GRUB reads a "replace kernel" error.
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> Samp:  yes it is. :) its just very powerfull.
[00:52] <Samp> d:99,100 deletes 99 lines whereas d:99 deletes 98.
[00:52] <tx> scunizi: new drivers running... it doesn't appear the installer made any changes to my xorg.conf at all
[00:52] <_2> scunizi no, dialup; internal modem in the <IP_ADDRESS> box.   punctuation added.
[00:53] <scunizi> Wow.. so many at the same time.. what's a person to do.
[00:53] <tx> scunizi: take your time. :)
[00:53] <scunizi> _2: I missed most of it.. what are you trying to accomplish
[00:53] <tx> scunizi: you're just to popular
[00:53] <_2> ditto
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> Samp:  i just do somthing like '99dd;
[00:53] <scunizi> :)
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> Samp:  i just do somthing like '99dd'
[00:54] <scunizi> tx: at the end of install it should have asked to write to xorg.. did that happen?
[00:54] <Ferris-> would anyone like to help me fix my atheros drivers in jaunty? :\
[00:54] <Ferris-> so much effort D:
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> Samp:  or use 'dd' then hit . a few times til i get all the lines deleted
[00:54] <Ferris-> screwit ill download windows seven. grr.
[00:54] <scunizi> elexodus: sorry I don't have the answer for that one.. hopefully someone will pick it up..
[00:55] <_2> scunizi i'll repost my question.
[00:55] <_2> can someone lend a hand with wired networking?   new install of 9.10 and it can't ping anything beyond <IP_ADDRESS>    however i am sshed into <IP_ADDRESS> and talking to you from there.
[00:55] <tx> scunizi: it should yes it did, i verified the file timestamp
[00:55] <elexodus> scunizi: no problem. Thanks anyway
[00:55] <LizardK|ng> _2, check your netmask
[00:55] <Samp> ah, oka
[00:55] <Samp> y
[00:55] <Krolljg> hey guys sorry im new to ubuntu and i need some mega help. Right i was installing ubuntu 9.10 to my ext hardrive but at the end of the installation i forgot to specify that grub needed to go onto the hardrive. Now whenever i boot it goes into grub recovery mode and i cannot boot vista! Please help, thank you.
[00:56] <Samp> yeah ddn where n is a number works fine
[00:56] <scunizi> tx.. try .. ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what shows up.. if it's more than just 3 or 4 lines look at it closer.. you might have to augment it
[00:56] <Samp> there aren't like... different versions of vi, right?
[00:56] <_2> LizardK|ng <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:57] <LizardK|ng> _2: is that what it should be?
[00:57] <scunizi> _2: so basically ICS? internet connection sharing?
[00:57] <Samp> I think the command I was trying earlier wasn't working because the book is (c) 2005, maybe it's changed since then, but god help me if every linux distro has its own vi
[00:57] <_2> scunizi yeah
[00:57] <_2> LizardK|ng yes
[00:57] <tx> scunizi: just the one file, i've made edits to this manually already to add the SLI parameters and second GPU info with busid, etc..
[00:57] <scunizi> _2: ubottu's got a link.. have you seen it?
[00:58] <edward-tux> hola buenas noches
[00:58] <edward-tux> como estan todos
[00:58] <drazak_> I have an ubuntu 9.10 machine, fully updated, sound isn't working, I have 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[00:58] <lolufail> hi
[00:59] <_2> scunizi i'll give a look.   but before i do.   on this same box.  without rebooting the <IP_ADDRESS> box   the older install of 6.6 works flawlessly.   so dont point at the gateway as the problem.
[00:59] <edward-tux> estoy feliz la noche de hoy porque acabo de recibir mi copia original de ubuntu desde canonical
[00:59] <scunizi> tx: good .. should be just one file.. on a fresh install there's normally nothing in it.. sounds like you just have to tweek it to get it working... there's a youtube video of a guy with 8? monitors hooked up together.. if you can find that you might be able to email him for a tip :)
[00:59] <scunizi> !ics | _2
[00:59] <lolufail> I have a 9.04 that keeps randomly loosing the hardwire network connection, route, ifconfig, resolv.conf all look good, restart networking and it all works again, and output of the 3 commands looks exactly the same! any ideas?
[01:00] <zezinhow> ae
[01:00] <zezinhow> 300 anos sem entrar no irc
[01:00] <zezinhow> :D
[01:00] <scunizi> _2: I'm not making any assumptions.. better not to. so if 6.06 works then it has to do with the new box..
[01:00] <tx> scunizi: xorg isn't able to initialize the second card it seems.  i'll post to nvforums and hope for an answer there.   thx!
[01:01] <_2> scunizi yep.
[01:01] <scunizi> tx: also check out ubuntuforums.. you might get lucky
[01:01] <zetheroo> the Ubuntu torrent is a bit slow ...
[01:01] <zetheroo> average at about 50Kb/s
[01:01] <scunizi> _2: what's doing dhcp (if you're using it)
[01:01] <tx> scunizi: i can only hope ;0
[01:02] <lolufail> hmm actually, "/etc/init.d/networking restart" works, "restart networking" reports "restart: Unknown instance:"
[01:02] <Weems> whats the best wya to kill x?
[01:02] <Weems> way*
[01:02] <scunizi> shotgun
[01:02] <scunizi> Weems: sudo service gdm stop
[01:03] <Weems> k
[01:03] <lolufail> do I have a problem with upstart conflicting with rc-d ?
[01:03] <PingFloyd> try /etc/init.d/networking stop first
[01:03] <Hilikus> how do i disable postfix logging of every mail and leave it only to log errors? my syslog if full of postfix crap
[01:04] <PingFloyd> also make sure you're prepending sudo to it
[01:04] <magn3ts> !java
[01:04] <lolufail> PingFloyd: "not deconfiguring network interfaces: network file systems still mounted"
[01:04] <scunizi> _2: you still around?
[01:04] <PingFloyd> lolufail: you know what to do that
[01:04] <PingFloyd> lolufail: you're obviously going to have to umount that
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[01:05] <magn3ts> What is the right kind of Java to install now-a-days? Is the official sun-jdk still besT?
[01:05] <lolufail> PingFloyd: can it be that the nfs in /etc/fstab makes a dependency on the oldstyle networking runscript?
[01:05] <kinja-sheep> !best | magn3ts :)
[01:06] <PeterT> uh oh soo much spam!
[01:06] <kinja-sheep> magn3ts: I suppose so. ;\
[01:06] <PingFloyd> lolufail: possibly
[01:06] <zetheroo> what the heck was that?
[01:06] <lolufail> PingFloyd: and what do you mean, I should try that first? this happens after a few hours after every reboot
[01:06] <lolufail> PingFloyd: I want to disable the problem once and for all
[01:06] <magn3ts> kinja-sheep, no offense, but considering that most ubuntu packages simply point to default-jdk, and that default-jdk points to the openjdk builds, Im going to assume that OpenJDK is now standard and acceptable
[01:07] <PingFloyd> lolufail: I wonder if renewing the ip address is triggering it
[01:07] <magn3ts> Also, I think this is an objective enough question that at the least, certains rolls of java are better than others
[01:07] <camps> hi everyone, new to linux!
[01:07] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[01:07] <PeterT> !help | camps
[01:07] <zetheroo> looks like Floodbot is going nuts ...
[01:07] <PeterT> what is happneing?
[01:07] <PeterT> and what is mode -z?
[01:07] <krups> spam incoming..  :(
[01:08] <camps> !help
[01:08] <jgrocha> urh! what is this?
[01:08] <camps> madness
[01:08] <PeterT> this is sparta
[01:08] <zetheroo> a band of idiots are entering the channel making a bunck of noise and then leaving before anyone can kick them out ..
[01:08] <atrus> I'm trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick , but the freshly formatted drive always reports "not enough free space" when I try to write to the usb device. What can I do?
[01:09] <Weems> where is the kernel log stored? I had a nvidia eror, and was sent to low graphics mode.
[01:09] <Weems> error*
[01:09] <jgrocha> but are humans doing this or is some kind of robot?
[01:09] <Jeruvy> Weems: /var/log
[01:09] <Weems> ok
[01:09] <lolufail> jgrocha: O_o
[01:09] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
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[01:09] <tsimpson> hmm
[01:09] <SuspectZero> hey there, i'll be very honest im currently running gentoo and i installed xsplash, but it actually runs after gdm, is that normal? or is xsplash suppose to load up as soon as my pc boots?
[01:09] <zetheroo> jgrocha: a combination
[01:09] <zetheroo> here they come again
[01:09] <PeterT> yikes
[01:10] <zetheroo> FIGHT!
[01:10] <zetheroo> :P
[01:10] <camps> is amarok the best music player for ubuntu?
[01:10] <camps> or the most like winamp?
[01:10] <Jeruvy> !best | camps
[01:10] <jgrocha> the "best" does not exist...
[01:11] <lolufail> camps: yeah amarok is the best ;)
[01:11] <lolufail> hehe
[01:11] <zetheroo> camps: amarok is great ... although its a KDE app ...  Right i was installing ubuntu 9.10 to my ext hardrive but at the end of the installation i forgot to specify that grub needed to go onto the hardrive. Now whenever i boot it goes into grub recovery mode and i cannot boot vista! Please help, thank you.
[01:13] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[01:13] <the_cyber_guy> i m unable to get ethernet working on ubnutu 9.10. plz help
[01:13] <zetheroo> SuspectZero: gentoo?
[01:13] <Siria_Calv> Can somebody please a virtual machine for linux that can run Windows? It must not require a genuine windows os install cd to run windows programs. It has to be able to run windows programs without a genuine windows os. DO NOT TELL ME TO USE WINE! I am asking because wine isn´t wanting to run Genesis2D properly. The version of wine I have is the latest developmental version from winehq downloaded by the package repository listed on t
[01:13] <Siria_Calv> heir site for Ubuntu 9.10
[01:13] <SuspectZero> psycho_oreos, im not askig for gentoo help. im just wonderin if thts how xsplash is SUPPOSE to work?
[01:13] <PeterT> !help | cyber_guy
[01:13] <Siria_Calv> oops, *please suggest a virtual...*
[01:14] <SuspectZero> from my understanding its a bootsplash loader
[01:14] <psycho_oreos> SuspectZero, dunno, never tried xsplash personally :)
[01:14] <kinja-sheep> SuspectZero: iirc -- xsplash will disappear when everything after GDM is done loading (supposedly to reduce graphic loads slightly).
[01:14] <zetheroo> Krolljg: you installed Ubuntu onto an external hdd?
[01:14] <SuspectZero> kinja-sheep, isnt it suppose to start as soon as my pc turns on?
[01:14] <SuspectZero> because right now it turns on when i log in using gdm
[01:14] <kinja-sheep> SuspectZero: You're thinking usplash.
[01:14] <SuspectZero> balls!
[01:14] <sivel> Siria_Calv: you could look at crossover office, but it is built on top of wine, only other suggestion is a virtual windows machine, aka virtualbox + windows
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[01:15] <the_cyber_guy> ehternet is not working, it shows disconnect. but is working fine on windows
[01:15] <SuspectZero> does usplash have pretty boots like xsplash?
[01:15] <Krolljg> zetheroo: yes but i at the last stage of installation i forgot to go into advance a put grub on the external hardrive
[01:15] <the_cyber_guy> i have realtek 8139
[01:15] <kinja-sheep> SuspectZero: By eliminating scrolls, but I think it is moot to have both installed so I don't have them installed.
[01:15] <camps> i have ubuntu 9.10 for amd64. Everything seems fully installed and configured hardware-wise. Do i have to locate drivers at all?
[01:15] <PeterT> why do we need 4 flood bots?
[01:16] <the_cyber_guy> with 8139too driver installed
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> camps:  for video and wireless - perhaps.. depens on the hardware
[01:16] <Siria_Calv> sivel, I have tried crossover. It uses what it calls ´bottles´ to manage running windows programs. The demo has no default bottle and won´t let me create a bottle. So has to be something else.
[01:16] <zetheroo> Krolljg: sorry mate  ... I have never done that and I dunno why I would ever do that ..
[01:16] <Krolljg> you wouldnt thats the problem i need to fix it
[01:16] <Siria_Calv> sivel: Crossover also requires its bottles to run windows programs
[01:16] <jazz_> mu system> preferences> sound = not the same as the pic in the link- i have sound effects hardware input, output aplications
[01:16] <camps> but ubuntu does find all the drivers automatically during installation by downloading them online?
[01:16] <SuspectZero> kinja-sheep, well i saw alot of videos regarding a boot splash that runs on top of X which are in HD and everything and look sexy, i thought thats wht xsplash was but i guess not. what package allows that
[01:17] <sivel> Siria_Calv: correct, but other than wine and apps that utilize wine, I don't think you are going to find anything else
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> camps:  most will be included. theres restricted drivers that might need a download.
[01:17] <zetheroo> Krolljg: me fixing it would be formating the external drive and installing Ubuntu on an internat HDD
[01:17] <sivel> Siria_Calv: I bought crossover, never used the demo
[01:17] <zetheroo> Krolljg: *internal
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> camps:  set those up after install.
[01:17] <camps> thanks willis
[01:17] <the_cyber_guy> is there any way so that i can reinstall realtek ethernet driver again, offline ?
[01:17] <Siria_Calv> sive: If the demo is supposed to be as it is, the demo is a total scam.
[01:17] <cr0talu5> about persistant install on USB, it is not safe to upgrade system is it? I remeber trying that earlier (may have been other Linux) and it broke the USB
[01:17] <kinja-sheep> SuspectZero: I'm not sure -- I don't use splashs.  Show me the video and I'll show you which splashes you want -- but I think you're talking about xplash. usplash only hide the scrolling text where xplash will display stuffs until Gnome and services are done loading.
[01:17] <Krolljg> unfortunatly i have vista on that hdd with alot of important info on it
[01:18] <Siria_Calv> oops
[01:18] <atrus> usb-creator-gtk says freshly formatted drives have zero free space. is there any way i can fix it, or another way i can burn this ubuntu iso file onto a usb drive?
[01:18] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: because he has 64bit Ubuntu will it be any different drivers wise than having 32bit?
[01:18] <the_cyber_guy> !help
[01:18] <Siria_Calv> sivel: If the demo is supposed to be as it is, it´s a total scam
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  not that ive ever seen
[01:18] <zetheroo> Krolljg: is there space on that hdd?
[01:18] <zetheroo> Krolljg: what about dual booting?
[01:18] <dragon> While installing Karmic desktop amd64 on a brand new HP desktop, I selected "Install now" instead of "Try without installing option" from a LiveCD at boot time, but I was still taken to the LiveCD session. Tried this 4 times to make sure I wasn't doing something wrong. I've installed Ubuntu on at least 30-40 machines and never encountered this before. Is this a known issue?
[01:18] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: ok
[01:18] <cr0talu5> I know I can install and upgrade packages nicely, have been trying a lot with 904 desktop tonight, but was thinking of system updates..
[01:19] <SuspectZero> kinja-sheep, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh6-uhGvBIY
[01:19] <SuspectZero> kinja-sheep, pm?
[01:19] <kinja-sheep> SuspectZero: Okay. That is xplash you're looking at -- mockup.  Looks nice. :)
[01:19] <Siria_Calv> dragon: The newer ubuntu live install cds use a GUI to install regards of whether or not you try it out first.
[01:20] <Siria_Calv> dragon *...regardless of...*
[01:20] <Krolljg> zetheroo: that was the idea to leave my vista hdd alone and install ubuntu onto my external hardrive. I followed a set of instuctions but missed the last step because im a retard. Now I have grub installed only my vista hdd ( i think) and i cannot boot into vista a grub just goes into recovery mode
[01:20] <SuspectZero> kinja-sheep, exactly but with my pc, the boot up is a boot up as usual then gdm loads up, when i log in THEN xsplash starts up
[01:20] <dragon> Siria_Calv: I've always seen that Ubiquity GUI. This time it was booting *into the Live session* which takes 10 mins to start itself.
[01:20] <camps> anyone able to dual-boot between windows xp and ubuntu with GRUB?
[01:20] <zetheroo> Krolljg: so you have GRUB
[01:21] <rww> ubottu: crosspost | dragon
[01:21] <dragon> camps: It works perfectly fine.
[01:21] <zetheroo> Krolljg: is there an entry for the Ubuntu you just installed?
[01:21] <zetheroo> camps: been able to do that for 4 years :)
[01:21] <camps> hmm
[01:22] <kinja-sheep> SuspectZero: Yes. Xplash is intended to replace Usplash but.. meh, that is the idea for now. Supposedly it should load X right away and start doing stuffs right away behind the curtain but that's not the case.
[01:22] <Siria_Calv> dragon, this sounds like a bug in the cd. Run the ´Check disc for errors...´ opetion in the live cd menu. If it shows nothing wrong, or it boots the live session instead, report it as a bug to the ubuntu dev team
[01:22] <Siria_Calv> *option*
[01:22] <SuspectZero> kinja-sheep, ah so mine is working as its suppose to right now
[01:22] <Dreamglider> How do i get two programs to listen to line in ?
[01:22] <Krolljg> zetheroo: sorry i dont know, im running this from the live cd! basically when i boot my computer grub tries to load but because my ubuntu is installed on my external hardrive it doesnt read it for some reason. there is no grub gui but its there
[01:23] <camps> i have one hard drive. What i did was set up two logical partitions. I installed windows xp on the first partition. After xp was installed, I installed ubuntu 9.1 on the second partition.
[01:23] <kinja-sheep> SuspectZero: It's not in pristine condition. It's a work in progress... intending to replace. Also, trying to phrase out HAL.  Yes, it is working as it should be.
[01:23] <dragon> Siria_Calv: thanks.
[01:23] <camps> after installation, i booted up again and it came to grub
[01:23] <Dreamglider> at the moment i can only use one at the time, if i try to open another prog it does not hear anything
[01:23] <dragon> !enter | camps
[01:23] <Siria_Calv> dragon: your very welcome
[01:23] <zetheroo> Krolljg: grub shows a list of bootable operating systems ... is there one entry in the list for Ubuntu?
[01:23] <SuspectZero> kinja-sheep, ah perfect, tyvm for the help, here i thought i was missing something cause i installed it on gentoo
[01:24] <kinja-sheep> SuspectZero: No prob.
[01:24] <SuspectZero> so is there any way of getting that kind of boot
[01:24] <SuspectZero> ?
[01:24] <Siria_Calv> dragon: If it does show an error, rdownload the iso and burn it to blank disc, or request a live cd
[01:24] <camps> it gave me about 4 instances related to booting up with ubuntu and 1 option for windows xp pro. When choosing xp pro, a dos screen pops up and says "
[01:24] <SuspectZero> or should i give up for now?
[01:24] <Siria_Calv> dragon: *redownload*
[01:24] <camps> 'cannot locate ntoskrnl.dll'
[01:24] <zetheroo> Krolljg: or are you saying that you don't even see the grub list when you boot up?
[01:24] <xyblor> why doesn't ubuntu come with autofs? is there a more sensible way to automount things these days?
[01:25] <kinja-sheep> SuspectZero: If you think about it, when you sign in GDM, there are things happening, gnome panel appearing and such. With xplash in place, and when xplash disappear, "it is ready, awaiting your commands"
[01:25] <camps> now, i checked online, but i never really had any answers from the ubuntu forums.
[01:25] <kinja-sheep> SuspectZero: It is more of illustrations, I will say. :)
[01:26] <camps> most of the threads i read said that grub and windows thing don't get along
[01:26] <zetheroo> Krolljg: if you have the grub menu appearing and you see the Ubuntu entry but cannot boot into it ... it is most likely that grub cannot locate the boot drive .... which is fixable ... but can be a real pain ...
[01:26] <SuspectZero> kinja-sheep, like i said before im on gentoo, i dont even have gnome, i have fluxbox :P
[01:26] <SuspectZero> i just asked in here cause xsplash is used in ubuntu
[01:26] <zetheroo> camps: depends how you do it
[01:27] <CAPcap> how do i make a folder hidden?
[01:27] <zetheroo> camps: Windows first and then Ubuntu ... not the other way around
[01:27] <SuspectZero> thought u guys would know more about it than #gentoo
[01:27] <The-Jag> does anybody know of a program to solve karnaugh map?
[01:27] <Siria_Calv> sivel: I didn´t mean nothing based on wine, I meant just not wine its self. Since programs based on wine are most likely to have altered its source, it is quite possible that some programs that are compatible with wine aren´t with them and vice-versa. So I am open to suggestions of non-wine-or-cross-over programs that are based on wine.
[01:27] <zetheroo> CAPcap: delete it ...  :P
[01:27] <camps> zeth: i tried that, but windows always fails to boot everytime i finish installing ubuntu
[01:27] <zetheroo> SuspectZero: know more about what?
[01:27] <SuspectZero> zetheroo, xsplash
[01:27] <CAPcap> zetheroo really there isnt a way to set a folder as hidden?
[01:28] <The-Jag> zetheroo: are u talking to me?
[01:28] <zetheroo> camps: fails to boot ... how? ... what error?
[01:28] <tsimpson> CAPcap: any folder starting with '.' is hidden
[01:28] <zetheroo> CAPcap: I dunno ha ... was jesting ...
[01:29] <CAPcap> thanks tsimpson
[01:29] <Siria_Calv> camps: Sounds like there is an error with the Windows installation. As long as you don´t choose to get rid of the windows partition in the ubuntu installation, then windows would work if it was installed fully correctly and successful.
[01:29] <camps> zeth: it's like failure to load ntoskrnl.dll
[01:29] <The-Jag> pls anyone?
[01:29] <zetheroo> The-Jag: I mention the name of whom I am speaking to ....
[01:29] <zetheroo> SuspectZero: in Ubuntu ?
[01:29] <camps> siria: but windows opened fine before. both winxp and ubuntu are installed on different partitions
[01:29] <The-Jag> zetheroo: ooops didn't noticed it :p
[01:29] <Siria_Calv> camps, and also if windows created partitions that the os isn´t actually on, you should keep those too to make sure windows will still work.
[01:30] <zetheroo> camps: ugh ... that is a corruption in Windows ...
[01:30] <camps> siria: i realized that as well. winxp creates a reserve partition. I was careful not to overwrite
[01:30] <danbhfive> camps: is windows on the first partition?
[01:30] <zetheroo> camps: how did you make those partitions? in Windows or in Ubuntu?
[01:31] <camps> dan: yes, ubuntu on the 2nd
[01:31] <dragon> camps: what's the error message when you try to boot windows?
[01:31] <camps> zeth: windows
[01:31] <camps> dragon: failure to load ntoskrnl.dll
[01:31] <Siria_Calv> camps, this is not just for camps, but for everyone. When you reply to me USE MY FULL NICK. This is so that my client will highlight it and I can find it much quicker if I wasn´t here when it was sent.
[01:31] <SuspectZero> so kinja-sheep  how do u have ur boot up set up? i want a pretty boot so to speak
[01:32] <ace721> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.10 on a Toshiba Satellite A135-S2266 laptop. I boot up from Live CD and don't have a mouse or keyboard. I hook up a USB mouse and it works. I check for proprietary drivers and there are none. Anyone know how to fix this?
[01:32] <SuspectZero> right now i just have text flying on the screen then i startx
[01:32] <zetheroo> camps: that is defintely a Windows error .. nothing that grub would have caused ...
[01:32] <camps> siria_calv: sorry about that, not too familiar with irc etiquette
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[01:32] <kinja-sheep> SuspectZero: I have scrolling texts. I like seeing stuffs.  What services began. If my hard drive is being fscked, and such.
[01:32] <zetheroo> Siria_Calv: I fully agree! Thanks for mentioning it
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[01:32] <kinja-sheep> hola
[01:32] <Siria_Calv> camps: its not irc etiquite. It s a ´me´ etiquitew
[01:32] <PeterT> wtf!
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[01:32] <dragon> camps: are you resizing the partition during installation?
[01:32] <PeterT> oh shoot
[01:32] <PeterT> :-)
[01:32] <camps> siria_calv: apologies :)
[01:32] <SuspectZero> kinja-sheep, ah ok. well thanks alot for the help. preciate it
[01:33] <camps> dragon: yes
[01:33] <PeterT> /ban paula27
[01:33] <Siria_Calv> camps: though to be honest I could be wrong about it not being irc etiquite.
[01:33] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[01:33] <kinja-sheep> SuspectZero: If you haven't heard yet, lynx have some nice nifty xplash lately
[01:33] <zetheroo> camps: did you resize the Windows partition during install?
[01:33] <ace721> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.10 on a Toshiba Satellite A135-S2266 laptop. I boot up from Live CD and don't have a mouse or keyboard. I hook up a USB mouse and it works. I check for proprietary drivers and there are none. Anyone know how to fix this?
[01:33] <camps> dragon: one hard drive and two logical partitions. first partition is windows xp installed first. second partition ubuntu installed 2nd
[01:33] <dragon> !tab | camps
[01:33] <camps> dragon: did not touch anything with the first partition
[01:34] <camps> dragon, thanks!
[01:34] <dragon> camps: try to create two physical partitions on the drive, install windows on first, verify that it boots, then install ubuntu on the second without resizing anything at boot time.
[01:35] <camps> dragon, that is exactly what i did
[01:35] <b0n1> hi
[01:35] <Siria_Calv> camps: according to what you just said, you DELETED the reserve partition that windows created. At least if you told the truth about there being a reserve partition made by your windows.
[01:35] <b0n1> how can i run a makefile via console?
[01:35] <cj> anyone feel like helping me figure out why hibernate isn't working for me?
[01:35] <dragon> camps: you said logical partitions, not physical.
[01:35] <cj> my hda died and I had to re-add it to my raid1
[01:35] <danbhfive> b0n1: make?
[01:35] <b0n1> or how do i install programms via makefile in general
[01:35] <cj> s/hda/sda/ in case it matters
[01:35] <zetheroo> camps: physical partitions
[01:36] <danbhfive> !checkinstall | b0n1
[01:36] <camps> they have to be physical?
[01:36] <b0n1> i just go to the direction where the makefile is and then type in make makefile?
[01:36] <cj> b0n1: makefile installation usuall involves ./configure && make && sudo make install
[01:36] <dragon> camps: apparently, yes
[01:36] <tsimpson> b0n1: install build-essential, run "make && sudo make install"
[01:36] <zetheroo> camps: use our names ;) and yeah
[01:36] <camps> dragon, i can kind of see how that would make sense...but
[01:36] <SuspectZero> kinja-sheep, sorry i dont know what u meant by that last statement
[01:36] <SuspectZero> XD
[01:36] <dragon> camps: I believe it's worth a try. It would be good for you in the long run as well.
[01:37] <zetheroo> camps: or just install Windows to the whole drive and let Ubuntu do it all automatically :)
[01:37] <kapipi> Is there anyone here who have gained an understanding of how ibus works on ubuntu? I am trying to fix a problem with ibus and japanese input via the anthy engine.
[01:37]  * cj <- needs help figuring out why hibernate isn't working...
[01:37] <cj> what's the first step?
[01:37] <camps> dragon, so you are definitely saying that i should use 2 different hard drives...one for xp, and one for ubuntu
[01:37] <b0n1> tsimpson,  what do you mean?
[01:37] <b0n1> install build-essentials
[01:37] <b0n1> how to do that?
[01:38] <cj> b0n1: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[01:38] <tsimpson> b0n1: with the package manager, it's a package
[01:38] <Siria_Calv> Can somebody please a virtual machine for linux that can run Windows? It must not require a genuine windows os install cd to run windows programs. It has to be able to run windows programs without a genuine windows os. DO NOT TELL ME TO USE WINE! I am asking because wine isn´t wanting to run Genesis2D properly. The version of wine I have is the latest developmental version from winehq downloaded by the package repository listed on
[01:38] <Siria_Calv> their site for Ubuntu 9.10
[01:38] <cj> b0n1: (from the command prompt)
[01:38] <cj> b0n1: what software are you trying to install?  if it's packaged for ubuntu, you may be able to get the dependencies with 'sudo apt-get build-dep <package>'
[01:38] <phantom2212> how do I install adobe flash in ubuntu bit?
[01:38] <collectek> react os?
[01:38] <b0n1> couldnt find package build-essentials
[01:39] <zetheroo> Siria_Calv: Virtual Box
[01:39] <cj> Siria_Calv: use qemu
[01:39] <tsimpson> !vm | Siria_Calv
[01:39] <zetheroo>  phantom2212: 64bit?
[01:39] <phantom2212> yes
[01:39] <b0n1> cj,  on   sudo apt-get install build-essentials   i get the response couldnt find package build-essentials
[01:40] <CyL> what would be the right place for my own startup scritps?
[01:40] <zetheroo>  phantom2212: hehe .. there is a way ... have you googled it?
[01:40] <genii> Siria_Calv: There is a project also called ReactOS, but if you don't like WINE you probably won't like that one either since it uses that at it's core
[01:40] <koshari> CyL home/user/bin
[01:40] <phantom2212> uhm i expected to be easy
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> !flash
[01:40] <b0n1> cj,  actually i just want to emulate mac
[01:40] <zetheroo> phantom2212: it is relatively easy
[01:40] <b0n1> because i want to convert a .flac file to an alac file
[01:41] <zetheroo> phantom2212: I am getting the page for you
[01:41] <Siria_Calv> I like wine, I just want something different then wine in some way regardles of whether or not it is based on wine on the chance itll run something better then wine
[01:41] <b0n1> alac is the lossless codec from apple
[01:41]  * CayceP boggles
[01:41] <cj> b0n1: hmm?  how do you mean 'emulate mac'?
[01:41] <b0n1> http://mac-on-linux.sourceforge.net/
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> Siria_Calv:  i doubt if you are going to find somnthing 'better then wine' other then more specicically tweaked wine variangs
[01:41] <tsimpson> b0n1: it's build-essential, not build-essentials
[01:42] <domiel> Hi all! I just installed ubuntu karmic and I was about to activate the proprietary nVidia driver but I notice that if I run glxinfo it indicates "direct rendering: Yes" using the open driver. Has the open driver progressed to the point where the proprietary one is no longer needed?
[01:42] <zetheroo> phantom2212 :  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava#64-bit%20Firefox%20and%2064-bit%20Flash%20plugin
[01:42] <b0n1> ok i have the newest version
[01:42] <camps> thanks for all your help folks!
[01:42] <b0n1> what now?
[01:42] <zetheroo> camps: good luck ;)
[01:43] <droid7> how come whne I pause a flash video the video stops but the sound plays for about 1-2 seconds before pausing ?
[01:43] <Siria_Calv> Dr_Willis: I don´t want something better then wine at running all windows programs, just better at running a specific program. And if it has any significant variations, regardless of whether or not their major, it just migh
[01:43] <Siria_Calv> *...just might*
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> Siria_Calv:  check teh wine app database, often you can tweak wine setups for specific apps.
[01:43] <Dreamglider> how do i setup ubuntu so that two programs can listen to line in at the same time ?
[01:44] <Siria_Calv> Dr_Willis: the app-db doesn´t have the app I want to work.
[01:44] <b0n1> cj,  do you know an alternative way to convert flac--> alac ?
[01:44] <cj> b0n1: for mol, it's ./configure --prefix=/opt/mol && make && sudo make install
[01:44] <b0n1> the only programm that does it is XLD as far as i know
[01:44] <cj> or whatever you want your --prefix to be
[01:45] <cj> b0n1: convert (sox) doesn't work?
[01:45] <b0n1> sox?
[01:45] <Euthanatos> Where is java located in Ubuntu?
[01:45] <planktumIII> hi all, under karmic beep makes no sound, any idea why?
[01:45] <genii> Euthanatos: which java                 will tell you
[01:45] <domiel> Hi all! I just installed ubuntu karmic and I was about to activate the proprietary nVidia driver but I notice that if I run glxinfo it indicates "direct rendering: Yes" using the open driver. Has the open driver progressed to the point where the proprietary one is no longer needed?
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[01:46] <b0n1> cj,  sorry i dont know much about those make stuff , do i have to go into the mol direction and then type ./configure --prefix=/opt/mol && make && sudo make install in the console?
[01:46] <Euthanatos> thanks =)
[01:46] <b0n1> i dont understand that part  ./configure --prefix=/opt/mol
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  prefix is where the thing will 'install' to
[01:47] <Siria_Calv> Dr_Willis: according to the exact wording of the react os sites description, React OS is not based on the code for wine. Since they don´t outright say so, I can´t prove it is true about React OS.
[01:47] <Maletor> Why won't XBMC play my DTS files while VLC can?
[01:48] <b0n1> so that means install it in /opt/mol?
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> Siria_Calv:  i recall an artical the other day where reactos is going to use more of the wine core. its not 'based' on wine  - from waht i recall. but its going to start using more wine 'stuff' in the near future
[01:49] <magn3ts> What, exactly, is the purpose of spamming an IRC room except to be a pain in peoples' rears?
[01:49] <nrich> how can I see which packages I have installed starting with 'kernel?
[01:49] <Madpilot> magn3ts, you've pretty much got the idea already... this channel is a big target.
[01:49] <b0n1> cj,  you think sox can do that?
[01:50] <b0n1> lossless?
[01:50] <tsimpson> nrich: try using: dpkg -l |egrep '^ii  kernel'
would anyone know a good book for a starter on ubuntu?  I'm good with the gui but i want to learn bash shell
[01:50] <planktumIII> seems is an unresolved bug
[01:50] <planktumIII> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/414795
[01:51] <nrich> seems I don't have a kernel installed
[01:51] <nrich> what I'm trying to do is see if I have the devel package installed for a kernel
[01:51] <tsimpson> nrich: the kernel packages start with "linux-image-"
[01:51] <Maletor> http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?p=493003#post493003
[01:51] <phantom2212> ty
[01:52] <tsimpson> nrich: the headers are linux-headers-generic or linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:53] <b0n1> Dr_Willis,  what do i have to type in if i am in the mol direction
[01:53] <nrich> I'm used to rh, and there we have headers and devel. are you saying the headers package here will have what I need to compile modules?
[01:53] <b0n1> ./configure --prefix=/opt/mol && make && sudo make install
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  normally ./configure, make , sudo make install.   err.. MOL last i checked emulated the PPC mac stuff.. Not the newer intel based, (i could be wrong)
[01:53] <songer> hello
[01:53] <songer> i'm trying to play some videos
[01:53] <songer>  but the audio goes pausing
[01:53] <b0n1> that gives as output File exists
[01:53] <b0n1> ./autogen.sh: 20: autoheader: not found
[01:54] <tsimpson> nrich: yes, you only need headers to compile modules
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> !find autoheader
[01:54] <nrich> in debian too or just ubuntu
[01:54] <nrich> out of curiosity
[01:54] <dvz-> anyone familiar with pam and nss authentication between database and files ?
[01:54] <tsimpson> debian too
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  looks like you need to install some extra pacakges - one of those ubottu  just listed. provberly the first
[01:54] <nrich> ok thanks, that's a new concept for me =]
[01:55] <b0n1> how to do that?
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  install the pacakges it listed. autoconf. if You dont know the basics of installing packages in ubuntu. You may want to read up on some ubuntu basics guides befor trying to compile stuff from source
[01:56] <gunmaster> would anyone know a good book for a starter on ubuntu?  I'm good with the gui but i want to learn bash shell
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> gunmaster:  thers 1000's of shell tutprial sites/books out there.
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> !shell | gunmaster
[01:57] <helper> hey need help! i need addon on webmin or anything have graph to track the users how many they are taking object from cache i just want to know if the Reduce utilization on internet !! thx =)
[01:57] <songer> the  sound of videos goes pausing
[01:57] <songer> any solution?
[01:57] <gunmaster> thank you dr_willis
[01:58] <heff09> hi
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> songer:  every video file? or just some?
[01:58] <b0n1> sudo apt-get autoheader?
[01:58] <songer> all my videos
[01:58] <b0n1> or with synaptics?
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  bot said ----> ubottu | File autoheader found in autoconf, autoconf2.13, autoconf2.59, manpages-tr
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  so try installiong 'autoconf'
[01:59] <songer>  yesterday it was ok
[02:00] <b0n1> sudo apt-get autoconf ?
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> !apt | b0n1
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install whatever
[02:00] <b0n1> thank you
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  . You may want to read up on some ubuntu basics guides befor trying to compile stuff from source
[02:01] <sdwrage> Has anyone ever heard of sudo not being able to remove a directory?
[02:01] <Maletor> http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?p=493003#post493003
[02:01] <b0n1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  you got more then 1 package manager tool going
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> like the error suggests. most likely
[02:01] <b0n1> oh yes
[02:01] <b0n1> synaptics
[02:01] <_schism_> evening all
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  you DO realize that macOn linux emulates the PPC MAC ?
[02:02] <songer> what can i do to play my videos whitout pausing?
[02:02] <songer> the audio?
[02:02] <b0n1> pocket pc mac = ppc ?
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> PPC is  the cpu used in the OLD macs
[02:02] <b0n1> oh
[02:02] <_schism_> I need some help. for some reason ubuntu is auto logging in into the root account and there is no gnome panel at the top.  Cant figgure out why and google isnt paying off. can someone point me in the right way?
[02:02] <IdleOne> ppc is power pc
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> ive never even heard of the term 'Pocket pc mac'....
[02:03] <b0n1> i just need mac to run XLD
[02:03] <b0n1> to convert .flac -> .alac
[02:03] <helper> hey need help =), i wants a graph for cache ussage in squid, to see how much the proxy is helping reduce bandwidth ussage
[02:03] <b0n1> maybe there is a much easier way
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:   I would be checking the mplayer/mencoder/ffmpeg/ homepage/forums/docs
[02:03] <b0n1> yes
[02:03] <b0n1> i did
[02:03]  * Dr_Willis has never even heard of alac
[02:04] <b0n1> its the lossless format of apple
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> or use wine and some windows tools
[02:04] <b0n1> yeah i did
[02:04] <b0n1> there are two
[02:04] <b0n1> foo2000
[02:04]  * Dr_Willis wants very little to do with apple either.
[02:04] <b0n1> and dbpoweramp
[02:05] <b0n1> is a convertion to mp4 lossless?
[02:05] <b0n1> or .m4a
[02:05] <IdleOne> b0n1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5595662&postcount=2
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> No idea. I dont worry too much about lossless.
[02:05] <b0n1> IdleOne,  i already read that
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> seems a little extreme learning to compile MOL to then install some OS-X to run one app.. :)
[02:06] <b0n1> :P
[02:07] <b0n1> yes
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> just to listen to some muzak
[02:07] <b0n1> right
[02:07] <genii> ffmpeg -formats | grep alac
[02:07] <b0n1> yes
[02:07] <b0n1> ffmpeg i know, but someone wrote that it is not sure whether ffmpeg is doing it lossless
[02:08] <sdwrage> wow wtf I cant sudo cp a directory into another directory? 0_o
[02:08] <b0n1> he said he compared files and there were differences
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> my ffmpeg says it supports ALAC
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> sdwrage:  use the -r option perhaps . or was it -R
[02:08] <b0n1> but does it convert it correct Dr_Willis  ?
[02:08] <b0n1> as i heard it doesnt
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  how would i know.. ive never even HEARD of alac till 5 min ago
[02:09] <b0n1> yeah me too
[02:09] <IdleOne> according to ffmpeg -formats | grep alac >>> DEA    alac            ALAC (Apple Lossless Audio Codec)
[02:09] <IdleOne> so yes lossless
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> if its buggy - its very likely theres fixed ffmpeg in the ffmpeg homepage/source/stuff
[02:09] <b0n1> ok i think i will give it a try
[02:11] <IdleOne> jussi01: you there?
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> time spent learning ffmpeg may be better then time spent trying to compile MOL. :)
[02:11] <sdwrage> Dr_Willis, I am trying to change the permissions on the folder to 777, how would I do that recursively?
[02:11] <sdwrage> I tried chmod 777 myfolder -r
[02:11] <sdwrage> but that doesnt work
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> sdwrage:   put the -r befor the name?
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> !chmod
[02:12] <sdwrage> Dr_Willis, its an uppercase R, nevermind ;)
[02:12] <b0n1> Dr_Willis,  its strange what i am doing, because who the fuck needs alac
[02:13] <b0n1> do you hear the difference between wav and mp3 ?
[02:13] <IdleOne> !language | b0n1
[02:13] <b0n1> ups
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  i dont mess with much of that.. and i doubt if i can tell the diff.
[02:13] <IdleOne> probably not Dr_Willis
[02:13] <b0n1> yes
[02:14] <Nattgew> Will mkdir tell you the file or directory doesn't exist if it does not have permission on it?
[02:14] <feedmecereal> Is there a way that I can find out when I last restarted Ubuntu?
[02:14] <IdleOne> feedmecereal: uptime
[02:14] <IdleOne> heh
[02:15] <genii> Nattgew: No, it will tell you it can't make the file
[02:15] <IdleOne> or not
[02:16] <genii> Nattgew: If you're trying to do something like: mkdir /a/b/c          when /a  or /a/b doesn't exist yet, you might get that "doesn't exist" message
[02:16] <helper> hey need help =), i wants a graph for cache ussage in squid, to see how much the proxy is helping reduce bandwidth ussage
[02:17] <Nattgew> genii: why would it say that if I have -p on it?
[02:18] <_2> anyone know a command to flush the routing table ?     route del *    doesn't seem to work
[02:19] <wizzo50> ppf
[02:19] <_2> anyone ?
[02:20] <genii> Nattgew: Ah, with -p shouldn't give the error, correct. It WOULD still give the "doesn't exist" though using -p when trying to make a hierarchy in somewhere no writing privs though, because the first dir create fails, then it goes to that error msg
[02:22] <poi77> Hi! I need to have a file accessible to another account. In my account it shows -rwxr-xr-x but I am logged into the other account I cannot see it: ls: ... Permission denied. The rest of the directory has '0' permissions for general users
[02:22] <_2> poi77 it's the dir you don't have access too
[02:23] <poi77> _2: I don't understand; it's not possible to make a subdirectory accessible without opening up everything?
[02:23] <b0n1> Dr_Willis, how can i check whether my output and my input are not different ?
[02:23] <_2> poi77 you can't have access to a file without having access to the dir it's in
[02:23] <b0n1> is there a way?
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  after conversion? No idea
[02:23] <b0n1> okay
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  why does it really matter?
[02:24] <poi77> _2: Can I permit specific files in a directory?
[02:24] <_2> poi77 one work-around would be to put the file in a public dir
[02:24] <helper> hey need help =), i wants a graph for cache ussage in squid, to see how much the proxy is helping reduce bandwidth ussage
[02:24] <b0n1> i dont now my boss is strange sometimes
[02:25] <genii> b0n1: http://ask.metafilter.com/107172/FLAC-ALAC has some answers to the questions you have, including how to check if it really is the same lossless info in both the files
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  ask him if he can tell then.. or just keep both files..
[02:25] <b0n1> he told me whether i can convert his cd music to lossless types because he hears a difference in mp3 and the original files
[02:25] <wizzo50> How do you open a ppf file?
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> doing personal busy work for the boss on company time.. lovely
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> I doubt if he can hear the differance btweek a good mp3 and the originals.
[02:26]  * iflema yeah man huge difference
[02:27] <genii> wizzo50: What made the file in the first place?
[02:27] <David-T> poi77: you could set the dir to rwx--x--x, then other users can access files in the directory (if they have the appropriate permission) but can't get a directory listing (from ls)
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> given my age and being a male.. i cant tell teh diff.. of course some musucian may be able to.. a factory worker... proberly not
[02:27] <_2> poi77 yes or you can restrict some files/dirs/inodes in your home.    i might suggest changing $HOME to rwx--x--x and making sure all private content is something like rwx------  for dirs or rw------- for files   then make one public dir  $HOME/public  with perms  rwxr-xr-x   that will let anyone chdir to  your public dir and access the files in it
[02:27] <sebsebseb> Hi
[02:28] <dirty> mp3's are as good as you make them correct?
[02:28] <wizzo50> genii, Nothing! Another friend asked me and he has Windows XP, so I wasn't sure and was asking if anyone on here knew
[02:28] <_2> poi77 but that's of course just an example
[02:28] <wizzo50> genii, Do you know?
[02:29] <_2> dirty except for being a propriatary format... yes
[02:29]  * iflema no.....
[02:29] <b0n1> lol
[02:29] <b0n1> You can verify this if you are paranoid by dumping the final apple format back into a WAV/AIFF and comparing with the intermediate WAV/AIFF from the FLAC file.
[02:30] <b0n1> lol yes Dr_Willis
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  Hmm?
[02:30] <b0n1> thats whats my oppinion too
[02:30] <dirty> I have a pink floyd and pink floyd mp3's.  The best quality i found was mp3 and believe me Ive got a system that emphasis it
[02:30] <b0n1> lol he said mp3 files dont stimulate his brain
[02:30] <b0n1> omg :(
[02:30] <b0n1> he is crazy i think ^^
[02:30] <poi77> David-T and _2 The rest of the files in the -x dir (except the one I explicitly permit with chmod 755 or chmod 777) will not be accessible, right?
[02:31] <PingFloyd> Dr_Willis: what you talkin' bout Willis?
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> b0n1:  i tell my boss regularry hes an 'idiot' :) but im in a union...
[02:31] <b0n1> lol
[02:31] <_2> poi77 none will be visable.  other than that, yes to your question.
[02:32] <poi77> _2: "none will be visable" What do you mean by that?
[02:32] <genii> wizzo50: According to http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/ppf it could be a PlayStation Patch Format File, a Publisher Project File, or a Paint Shop Pro Soft Plastic Preset File. So without knowing what made it, your likely app if it's a graphics-program-file is Gimp
[02:32] <b0n1> dirty really?
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[02:33] <Ronald> Winamp not Running
[02:33] <_2> poi77 to other users  they will not be able to view the content of the home dir   that helps keep things less conspicuousnessless
[02:33] <aliciapg> does anyone know how to remove ape tags with easytag?
[02:33] <wizzo50> Yea, the way I can see it, it can't be opened in Windows after I looked it up: Cannot access PPF files on windows?
[02:33] <wizzo50> When windows gives you an error message saying that it
[02:33] <wizzo50> "Cannot open PPF files", this means either:
[02:33] <wizzo50> A. You need to identify a program that can open the file
[02:33] <wizzo50> B. Or your registry may be damaged
[02:33] <FloodBot3> wizzo50: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:34] <David-T> poi77: any files that are not world readable will not be accessible (wherever they are)...
[02:34] <poi77> Thanks!
[02:34] <David-T> poi77: i suggest you create a directory with mode 711 and put a few files/subdirectories in it and play around....
[02:34] <wizzo50> genii, So, that is what I'll have to tell him, with what I said above
[02:35] <kapipi> Is there any place where I can read about how ubuntu integrates its components? In this case I would like to understand how X, xinput, gnome-language-selection and ibus fits together.
[02:35] <_2> poi77 as David-T said    play around and see what likes you
[02:35] <Gateway> hello everybody
[02:35] <Eneerge> why does recovery mode run an i686 kernel instead of the x86_64
[02:36] <Eneerge> i can't install my drive rbecause it does that
[02:36] <Gateway> how can I find another key for a depot and how I can change it
[02:36] <_2> it's rough on gui apps but i like root dir (/) set to 001
[02:36] <Gateway> I get an error message after typying sudo apt-get update
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. recovery mode here just runs the normal kernel with a single option at the end - I thought
[02:37] <_2> dr-willis  are you 64 bit though ?
[02:37] <b0n1> have you heard of files .ape(monkey audio) =
[02:37] <b0n1> ?
[02:37] <_2> i'm not,  so i have no answer there
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> _2:  all my systems are 64bit.. well the netbook might niot be.. :) but my dekstop machines are
[02:38] <helper> hey need help =), i wants a graph for cache ussage in squid, to see how much the proxy is helping reduce bandwidth ussage
[02:38] <Eneerge> it runs i686 here
[02:38] <Eneerge> will not run regular kernel
[02:38] <David-T> Eneerge: i don't even have an i686 kernel installed...
[02:39] <_2> what is gvfs ?
[02:39] <Eneerge> i didnt know that i did either
[02:39] <_2>  ls: cannot access /home/guest/.gvfs: Permission denied
[02:39] <Eneerge> but uname -a reports it to be just that
[02:39] <aliciapg> does anyone know how to remove ape tags with easytag?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> David-T:  yea. thats what i was getting at..  it shouldebnt be running a 32bit kernel - since a 64bit system wont install a 32bit kernel friom what ive seen
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> _2:  a special directroty for mountpoints and stuff
[02:40] <Gateway> !wiki pubkey
[02:40] <Gateway> !wiki depots
[02:41] <Madpilot> Gateway, the bots here don't do websearches for you.
[02:41] <_2> Dr_Willis DIR ?  that root can't access?    not a socket ?
[02:41] <tardbox> does anyone here use backtrack 4?
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> _2:  its special. used by the gnome virtual filesystem features of gnome
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> _2:  theres no real reason tomess with it
[02:42] <_2>  ls: cannot access /home/guest/.gvfs: Permission denied
[02:42] <_2> that's reason enough for me   ^
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> _2:  delete it then
[02:42] <blistov> msg nickserv identify remindiddqd86
[02:43] <iflema> ooo
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> ls -ld .gvfs/
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> dr-x------ 2 willis willis 0 2010-01-25 19:09 .gvfs/
[02:43] <_2> Dr_Willis heh.  rm $IT ;touch $IT ;chattr +i $IT   :)))
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> its just a normal directroy here. but im not using any special gvfs features right now
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> its also totally empty
[02:44]  * Dr_Willis double checks. the normal and revovery mode entries in grub.cfg boot the same jkernel. Only differance is a 'single' option at the end
[02:45] <karma_police> anyone have firefox 3.6 installed yet?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> karma_police:  yes
[02:46] <karma_police> me too.. i can't seem to get flash working
[02:46] <_wast3lanD> karma_police: on ubuntu, not yet. i wonder if the 3.7 alpha would be able to get on ubuntu tho.
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> karma_police:  flash works here
[02:46] <_2> Dr_Willis it's also imutable inperviable impossable   ;/
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> karma_police: using the daily build ppa. theres also this -> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/firefox-36-stable-ubuntu-repository-ppa.html
[02:46] <karma_police> i have it on ubuntu and flash is not working
[02:47] <_2> how to turn the ctrl+alt+backspace kills Xorg   back on in 9.10 ?
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> _2:  gniome keyboard settings have a setting for that
[02:47] <karma_police> i have it installed and working properly.. just can't watch youtube without the "missing flash" promp
[02:47] <_2> is there no universal setting ?
[02:48] <hyperstream> _2, Gnome System>Pref>Keyboard shortcuts
[02:48] <karma_police> prompt*
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> _2:  the gnome keybord settings... has that setting also
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> and ive seen wiki/guides for other ways to enable it also
[02:48] <_2> Dr_Willis noted :)
[02:49] <mlissner> Hi, does anybody know what the program is that is used to configure bluetooth in gnome?
[02:49] <karma_police> what do you have 3.6 installed on? windows?
[02:50] <karma_police> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:51] <genii> !dontzap | _2
[02:52] <PingFloyd> I wish it were enabled by default
[02:52] <blistov> i was running mt-daapd, but as of last night, it quit working.   when i start it up in debug mode, it shows a bunch of errors relating to sqlite.  I can't actually find the sqlite database. anyone know whats going on?
[02:54] <helper> hey need help =), i wants a graph for cache ussage in squid, to see how much the proxy is helping reduce bandwidth ussage
[02:56] <_2> did i miss anything ?
[02:56] <aliciapg> does anyone know how to remove ape tags with easytag?

[02:57] <aliciapg> or at all?
[02:57] <Triath> hello
[02:57] <PeterT> !help | Triath
[02:57] <Ijustwantyourhal> ignore * ALL -PUBLIC -ACTIONS
[03:00] <Triath> I have 2 monitors with twinview, one is set as primary screen but when i look at videos in firefox at example youtube, and i press fullscreen it goes fullscreen on the seconday monitor, how can I change that?
[03:00] <wiredmind_> how about making Terminal Server Client go fullscreen on one monitor only in Twinview
[03:01] <rumpsy> Wow,  1274 users . . . .
[03:01] <rumpsy> But there is no limit in this channel, to avoid floods
[03:02] <wiredmind_> that is a lot of ubunters
[03:02] <imMute> rumpsy: should have seen #sparkfun during their freeday. ^_^
[03:03] <sebsebseb> rumpsy: wiredmind_ four or so bots here as well, and  they are also part of the number, plus I expect not everyone in here uses Ubuntu
[03:03]  * imMute doesn't
[03:03] <_2> sebsebseb and houndreds of idlers
[03:03] <imMute> I"m here just to gather fodder for my irc statistics program
[03:03] <rumpsy> sebsebseb: Yes you are right
[03:03] <wiredmind_> sebsebseb: still it's a nice crowd gathered around ubuntu
[03:04] <sebsebseb> _2: yes the idlers are part of the number
[03:04] <un214> humph seems to be some dumb reason I cannot join ubuntu-devel
[03:04] <sebsebseb> imMute: Oh how come your here then, to find out about it?
[03:05] <imMute> sebsebseb: /me points at my latest comment
[03:05] <PingFloyd> un214: nick registration maybe
[03:05] <un214> I've been able to join w/o it
[03:05] <rumpsy> imMute: I want to know more about that channel, so i take my time to spend there now, but it will not more than 10 min
[03:06] <paddy_melon> Hey guys... just bought a EEEPC 1001ha and , wireless won't work in NBR... what driver do I need and where can I find it
[03:06] <rumpsy> imMute: i like that channel ;)
[03:06] <imMute> rumpsy: O.o
[03:07] <urlwallace> paddy_melon, good luck the only linux I could get to do wi fi is ubuntu 910
[03:07] <paddy_melon> urlwallace... so even NBR 9.10 won't work?
[03:07] <Gm4n> how do I change the login screen? I'm running standard ubuntu (gnome), but I don't think the login manager is part of gnome.
[03:08] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, pastebin your lspci -nnk output
[03:08] <PingFloyd> Gm4n: install the dm you want
[03:08] <_2> Gm4n sys>admin>login....
[03:08] <urlwallace> its finiky it worked on a3 year old gateway with intel wi fi for a customer but again its finiky paddy_melon
[03:08] <rumpsy> Recently i installed linux-image-bigmem, without knowing its advantage
[03:08] <momia> hi hackers
[03:08] <paddy_melon> damn
[03:08] <PingFloyd> Gm4n: apt-get install gdm
[03:09] <bthornton> What's the "least unsupported" way of running the version 190.x nVidia drivers on a Ubuntu 9.04 (x86_64) machine? I've got the binary direct from nVidia but I'm sure that will cause all kinda havoc with my package manager since I'm currently running 180.x from Ubuntu repos....
[03:09] <Gm4n> PingFloyd: so display manager is different from desktop environment. Cool :)
[03:09] <momia> I'm upgrading to lucid right now, do you think my laptop will blow into pieces? lol
[03:09] <PingFloyd> Gm4n: yeah, technically
[03:09] <PingFloyd> Gm4n: you really could use whatever dm you want
[03:09] <Gm4n> cool, thanks :)
[03:09] <_2> xdm to the rescue
[03:09] <Gm4n> now I get to go play with things and learn
[03:09] <AnakinSkywhopper> Hola.
[03:09] <AnakinSkywhopper> Coma estas seniors?
[03:10] <_2> !es > AnakinSkywhopper
[03:10] <PingFloyd> Gm4n: practically everything is interchangeable
[03:10] <Tartaros> hi. Say i want to create a "service" out of an executable (in my case bzflag server) how would i do that the proper ubuntu way?
[03:11] <genii> Tartaros: Probably with update-rc.d
[03:11] <rumpsy> i like bzflag :)
[03:11] <_2> genii does upstart still use the symlinks in the rc#.d/ 's ?
[03:12] <Tartaros> genii: well dont i need to create some sort of service script?
[03:12] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos, the Wifi card is a Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:3090]
[03:12] <Tartaros> I think i even saw an "universal" service script somewhere once, but can§t remember where ofc :)
[03:12] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, ahh that will pretty much require the latest kernel or even wireless-testing
[03:13] <genii> _2: Not sure. But I made a small thing I needed to run and added it in manually with update-rc.d method, it runs on boot (at least for now)
[03:13] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos... should I plug into ethernet and update? THen what?
[03:13] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, which kernel version are you with that NBR?
[03:13] <rumpsy> Still i'm having time to support, its coffee time now, brb
[03:14] <_2> genii cool then i should be able to use that to setup my network     i can't seem to get the bugs all ironed out of networking..... ;/
[03:14] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos... how do I tell? I downloaded it about an hour ago
[03:14] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, oh I thought you have already installed it
[03:14] <un214> !nick registration
[03:14] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos, I have, I downloaded it and just installed it
[03:14] <psycho_oreos> !register > un214
[03:15] <_2> how hard is it to set up a DHCP server ?
[03:15] <un214> _2: apt-get install dnsmasq
[03:15] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, hmm you might be able to get away with a sta driver to say the least
[03:15] <_2> un214 ?   for dhcp ?
[03:15] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos, when I try this >> sudo modprobe rt3090sta it comes back saying the module cannot be found
[03:16] <_2> un214 i see a package  dhcp3-server    ?
[03:16] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, yeah the package needs to be installed first, I dunno if it is available in the repository or not
[03:16] <paddy_melon> ok, thanks
[03:16] <un214> sorry _2 I only know dnsmasq
[03:16] <q0_0p> anyone here has knowledge about torrents with transmission?  what is the purpose in opening ports for it?
[03:16] <paddy_melon> I'll plug into ethernet and give it a go psycho_oreos
[03:16] <paddy_melon> thanks for your help
[03:17] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, nw
[03:17] <icehawk78> I've got a process of xbmc that doesn't appear to respond to a kill command (sudo kill [pid])
[03:17] <icehawk78> Is there a... stronger version of kill?
[03:17] <icehawk78> superkill?
[03:17] <Eneerge> eh
[03:17] <Eneerge> why is my linux using an i686 kernel
[03:17] <paddy_melon> icehawk78, killall?
[03:18] <psycho_oreos> Eneerge, it doesn't really matter, i686 is more optimised for your CPU level
[03:18] <Eneerge> when i downloaded the x64 iso (i installed the same usb image to this computer and it works fine in x64)
[03:18] <unimatrix> Eneerge: because you installed it?
[03:18] <icehawk78> paddy_melon: Will that actually kill everything, or will it just kill everything related to one process?
[03:18] <Eneerge> i haven't installed anything
[03:18] <Eneerge> its on a c2d t9400
[03:18] <_2> icehawk78 kill -6 $blah   ;kill -9 $blah  ;kill -15 $blah  ;killall $name
[03:18] <Eneerge> i havent installed any kernel
[03:18] <Eneerge> the computer doesnt even have network capability
[03:18] <void_pointer> Tartaros look in your /etc/init.d directory for starty/stoppy goodness
[03:19] <Eneerge> or touchpad or usb for that matter because everything is broken
[03:19] <psycho_oreos> Eneerge, so you're getting x86-64?
[03:19] <_2> icehawk78 and add authority as needed    sudo kill****
[03:19] <Eneerge> yes, i've installed x86-64
[03:19] <icehawk78> _2: Ah, kill -6 did the job.
[03:19] <regfire> handbrake on 64 is where its at
[03:19] <icehawk78> Thanks much.
[03:19] <psycho_oreos> Eneerge, ahh yes, drivers and stuff may have issues with x86-64, if you tried the i386, those devices may gain support
[03:20] <Eneerge> 8.10 worked fine and 9.04 i believe did as well
[03:20] <_2> icehawk78 if you wanted to really nuke everything...   sudo kill -9 -1   <<<< expect a console login prompt
[03:20] <Eneerge> nvidia 9700m gt, synaptics touchpad, etc
[03:20] <Eneerge> its not like i have old stuff
[03:21] <Eneerge> It's a G50V which is supposed to be supported
[03:21] <rumpsy> Eneerge: if and only you were updated 9.10
[03:21] <icehawk78> _2: Haha, nope, I just wanted it to actually die. When top said it was using 106% of my CPU (on top of other things using another 20) I didn't think it would be good.
[03:21] <Eneerge> i can't install any drivers because it's somehow decided to use the i686 kernel
[03:21] <_2> icehawk78 note.  all my examples were progressively stronger    with the exception of killall perhaps
[03:21] <un214> _2 for a small laugh kill -9 1   (fyi nothing happens even though you expect something bad)
[03:22] <speps> hi guys a question, can i use recordmydesktop to send captured data as a stream without any compression?If it's not possible how can i do that?Thanks
[03:22] <Eneerge> how would i force it to use the different kernel.  the image in the grub is pointing to the x64 kernel
[03:22] <_2> un214 heh   yeah    and  1 != -1
[03:23] <Trek> Eneerge, what distro of Ubu?
[03:23] <Eneerge> karmic
[03:23] <Trek> you originally installed 64-bit version, Eneerge?
[03:23] <Eneerge> yeah
[03:23] <Eneerge> that's the only version i've installed
[03:23] <_2> un214 actually    kill -9 -1    is quite handy,  as long as you are not superuser
[03:24] <un214> I know.
[03:24] <Tartaros> void_pointer: well isn't there some tutorial to creating a service, the ubuntu/upstart way<
[03:25] <Eneerge> heh
[03:25] <un214> I recall a rather nazi-ish admin who ran a script that su'd to each user in turn, and ran a C-shell script that clobbered the enviromnent files (.profile, .bash_profile, .cshrc) with stock copies
[03:25] <un214> lucky for me I had placed exec ksh in my .cshrc long before
[03:26] <void_pointer> Tartaros probably. I'm just telling you the easy way. All you need is to add it with update-rc.d and put: case "$1" in
[03:26] <void_pointer>   start)
[03:26] <void_pointer> start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile $PIDFILE --name  <your executable> $SSD_ARG -- $CONFIG_FILE >/dev/null 2>&1 || log_end_msg 1
[03:26] <Eneerge> geez
[03:26] <Eneerge> whats the deal with this i686 shit
[03:26] <helper> hey need help =), i wants a graph for cache ussage in squid, to see how much the proxy is helping reduce bandwidth ussage
[03:26] <un214> Eneerge: Pentium II or better
[03:26] <Trek> !language | Eneerge
[03:26] <Eneerge> ok
[03:27] <evon> can someone please remind me where to find the fstab file and how to make it load without restarting the computer
[03:27] <Trek> can't you remove the i386 kernel through Synaptic?
[03:27] <void_pointer> Tartaros and similar for stop. Just check out update-rc.d and start-stop-daemon. It's pretty straightforward. Look at some of the scripts in /etc/init.d to see how others have handled it
[03:27] <_2> un214 heh.    sounds like the kind of system that needs a good crackin'   :)
[03:27] <un214> evon: fstab is in /etc, to hot-apply run mount -a
[03:27] <evon> un214: thanks you the man
[03:30] <un214> _2 of course he "fixed" that one the second time around, so I left something nasty in my .cshrc for him -- I took /bin out of the path so nothing worked
[03:30] <un214> _2: he never did fix his script to look at the login shell
[03:30] <Tartaros> void_pointer: well for example I looked into networkmanager script and there it says stuff about being converted to upstart job so I was wondering how would I make my own upstart job :)
[03:30] <IdleOne> !ot | un214
[03:31] <linette> Hello all... I'm on the look out for some help with my new 9.10 system that won't let me logon due to a graphics glitch.. any experts out there in intel driver problems?
[03:31] <Eneerge> i just worked through that proble
[03:31] <Eneerge> and now i cant install my nvidia driver because its running an i686 kernel
[03:31] <_2> IdleOne do you know howto clear the routing table with a command ?
[03:31] <Eneerge> i didnt even know the i686 kernel was in the x86-64 package
[03:32] <Eneerge> i mean what the heck?
[03:32] <IdleOne> _2: I don't
[03:32] <evon> un214: can you remind me what else i have to put for my fstab line please I have this so far "/dev/sdb        /media/windisk" i want read and write permissions to be set
[03:32] <Trek> Eneerge: can't you remove the i386 kernel through Synaptic and replace it with the version you need?
[03:32] <un214> /dev/sdb /media/windisk fstype options dump pass
[03:33] <un214> fstype is probably ntfs, options would be rw, dump 0, pass 0 (probably)
[03:33] <Eneerge> what's the shortcut to access the system menu
[03:33] <Eneerge> i have no mouse
[03:33] <evon> un214: thanks
[03:33] <_2> IdleOne can one change from the scsi device, back to the traditional hd* device nodes ?
[03:33] <Eneerge> (no touchpad support and no usb support atm)
[03:33] <un214> Ctrl+Alt+F1
[03:34] <Eneerge> heh, that's tty change
[03:34] <un214> _2 only if one has ide drives
[03:34] <un214> Eneerge: well I do all my admin work from the command prompt
[03:34] <IdleOne> _2: direct your questions to the channel please. highlighting me specifically with questions is bordering on trolling.
[03:34] <Eneerge> k
[03:34] <_2> un214 i do,   but the 9.10 ubuntu sets the as sd*
[03:34] <linette> so the 'loading' splash screen keeps looping, and making the little drum sound.  If I I update xorg.conf to vesa I can log in but with 640x480 resolution!
[03:34] <un214> bleh
[03:34] <Eneerge> i dont have network capability either
[03:35] <Eneerge> so i cant install nothing
[03:35] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos, I've installed the driver and, it now registers there is wifi on the device but, it finds neither of my networks (one unsecured)
[03:35] <paddy_melon> neither are hidden
[03:35] <paddy_melon> and are working fine
[03:35] <sina> I just installed Ubuntu, any must-have applications?
[03:35] <_2> IdleOne so ban me.      i'm leaving anyway.
[03:35] <un214> _2: funny it created my cdrom devices as hd so ...
[03:35] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, I think you're missing a firmware, I'd check dmesg or if unsure, paste the output of dmesg in full into pastebin
[03:36] <Trek> Eneerge, you're stuck with no way to work then, unless you've got an older kernel hiding there.
[03:36] <un214> he can snearkernet-fix if somebody can guess the fix
[03:36] <Trek> Eneerge, your last option is a reinstallation
[03:36] <underdev> i looked around, but couldn't find it: are there any debs for moinmoin 9.1?
[03:36] <Eneerge> tried that option about 10 times, lol
[03:37] <void_pointer> sina don't worry about must-have applications, just start using the command line until your fingers bleed. Then bandage them up and start again
[03:37] <sina> void_pointer, what useful things can I do?
[03:37] <void_pointer> sina mastery over the command line is everything in *nix. Once you have abandoned Gnome/KDE you will achieve inner wisdom
[03:37] <linette> so, I guess my question is, is there a way to make the intel drives work, or is there a way to get higher resolution out of vesa
[03:38] <un214> "you have entered an older world"
[03:38] <Eneerge> the live-cd/live-usb runs perfectly
[03:38] <Eneerge> i can even enable compiz effects
[03:38] <void_pointer> sina anything and everything possible with computing. Except perhaps editing photos.
[03:38] <sina> You can't browse the internet half-properly from a command line
[03:38] <Eneerge> all wireless and networking working, etc
[03:38] <Eneerge> but after installing, nothing works
[03:38] <void_pointer> sina well you could edit photos, but it would be hard to see the results
[03:39] <un214> void_pointer: it's called a printer
[03:39] <void_pointer> sina of course you can. But that is beside the point. Use a browser for browsing, obviously. Just get aquainted with the command line
[03:39] <rumpsy> linette: my point is, don't force default drivers to work for your need, just leave as default
[03:39] <Eneerge> could i image the flash drive and then do a exact copy to the hd
[03:39] <void_pointer> sina if your fingers aren't bleeding you aren't linuxing enough
[03:39] <sina> Nah
[03:39] <sina> I like my GUI
[03:39] <rumpsy> sina: lol , he may be right
[03:40] <sina> plus I can't have my emma watson wallpaper in a CLI
[03:40] <cfedde> that's what window backgrounds are for.
[03:41] <rumpsy> sina: give a try to GNUSTEP
[03:41] <trism> sina: sure you could, gnome-terminal, Edit/Profile Preferences/Background Tab, background image
[03:41] <trism> sina: or just make it transparent
[03:41] <sina> hard to read text
[03:41] <sina> :D
[03:41] <trism> true
[03:41] <void_pointer> sina of course you can. I'm not saying don't use a window manager. I use openbox. I'm saying learn to use the command line
[03:42] <cfedde> compromises all around.
[03:42] <void_pointer> sina it's the best linux advice you'll ever get. Plus learn to read man pages
[03:42] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos... can you please checkout my dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/363008/
[03:42] <void_pointer> sina man page read like a wild animal. Until your eyeballs bleed
[03:42] <sina> extremist much
[03:42] <void_pointer> sina you will only get out of *nix what you put in.
[03:43] <marcusteles> oi
[03:43] <quentin_> hi
[03:43] <yellowhat89> hi
[03:44] <quentin_> i am having a problem with labyrinth mind maps. it doesn't work
[03:44] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, hmm weird, no complaints about no firmware, what mode is the interface in?
[03:45] <yellowhat89> this chan only for developer or public?
[03:45] <ardchoille> public
[03:45] <evon> does anyone know how to control where desktop icons appear?
[03:45] <AnakinSkywhopper> Has anyone here run NetworkMiner under Wine?
[03:45] <quentin_> it says it's opening and then it doesn't. what could be wrong with labyrinth
[03:45] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos... sorry, I'm no good with this stuff... how do I check the mode?
[03:45] <void_pointer> yellowhat89 all comers are welcome
[03:45] <Trek> yellowhat89, this is a public support channel
[03:45] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, iwconfig ra0
[03:46] <yellowhat89> ok thank you
[03:46] <void_pointer> yellowhat89 don't be alarmed by what I told sina. I knew he could handle it. I'll be much more gentle with you
[03:46] <sina> lol, anyone play FreeCiv?
[03:46] <Trek> !offtopic | sina
[03:46] <quentin_> i know it's not critical so i can wait for an answer about labyrinth no working. let me know what you think.
[03:46] <sina> can I connect to #ubuntu-offtopic while being here too?
[03:46] <Trek> yes
[03:46] <ardchoille> yes
[03:46] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos, thanks, the mode says: Mode: Frequency-2.412 GHZ
[03:46] <Trek>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:47] <void_pointer> sina you have much to learn, grasshopper
[03:47] <Trek> i'm there too, sina :P
[03:47] <sina> im not a grasshopper
[03:47] <sina> i hate insects
[03:47] <paddy_melon> oh, sorry, Psycho_oreos, the mode is auto
[03:47] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, weird, nothing in mode, try adjusting the channel to the channel of your AP and do iwlist ra0 scan
[03:48] <void_pointer> literal, much?
[03:48] <sina> haha how do i register?
[03:48] <sina> using /register <nick>
[03:48] <sina> ?
[03:48] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos, my router has the channel set to auto... what's the best to set it to?
[03:49] <quentin_> should i contact the developers of labyrinth instead. maybe they would know more.
[03:49] <sina> how do i change my nickname?
[03:49] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, hmm that would be a difficult one.. well its hard for me to say but probably set it to channel 6 or channel 11
[03:50] <Trek> sina: go into offtopic i'll tell
[03:50] <Hammerjak> sina: /nick <new name>
[03:50] <sina> i cant talk in offtopic
[03:50] <paddy_melon> k
[03:50] <paddy_melon> thanks
[03:50] <sina> Hammerjak: that doesnt work
[03:50] <Trek> sina: you can read in offtopic :P
[03:50] <void_pointer> sina http://www.wikihow.com/Register-a-User-Name-on-Freenode
[03:50] <songer_> hello
[03:50] <sina> I know how to register but someone took this name I guess
[03:51] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos... no luck
[03:51] <Trek> so choose another nick, sina.
[03:51] <AnakinSkywhopper> Has anyone here run NetworkMiner under Wine?
[03:51] <nibiru> prob. alsa mixer soundblaster live aux2 not found ... any idea
[03:51] <sina> yep thats the problem cant change my nick
[03:51] <songer_> how can i play videos whitout pausing on vlc or movie player
[03:51] <charles__> hello, all
[03:51] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, so you set your router to one of those channels, what about the interface? tried setting it to the same channel as the AP?
[03:52] <calvinator1> hey, is anyone on/
[03:52] <cfedde> not realy
[03:52] <sina> oh forget it im too lazy
[03:52] <calvinator1> i just need some help making my ubuntu 9.10 based pc PHPMotion Ready
[03:52] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos, the interface was at channel 1 so I set my router to channel one and, doesn't work... maybe I'll try a different channel, how do I change the interface channel?
[03:52] <charles__> anyone here have problems with the icons/applets on teh gnome panels moving around after a restart?
[03:52] <paddy_melon> iwlist ra0 channel 11 doesn't work
[03:53] <ardchoille> charles__: I had my search panel applet move after restart.. I deleted the applet
[03:54] <dark_shinobi> is anyone currently involved in any ubuntu open source projects?
[03:54] <RML_> Trying to install usb-creator from Unbuntu 8.04 using: sudo apt-get install usb-creator and it says "couldn't in package"
[03:55] <RML_> couldn't find package
[03:59] <nibiru> prob. alsa mixer soundblaster live aux2 not found ... any idea
[03:59] <calvinator1> hey, im coding an OS for my wii, does anyone want to be a part of it?
[03:59] <Eneerge> could usb install cause trouble
[04:00] <calvinator1> im going to sleep
[04:01] <nibiru> prob. alsa mixer soundblaster live aux2 not found ... any idea
[04:03] <nibiru> prob. alsa mixer soundblaster live aux2 not found ... any idea
[04:04] <nibiru> prob. alsa mixer soundblaster live aux2 not found ... any idea
[04:05] <PingFloyd> where you seeing that?
[04:09] <nibiru> prob. alsa mixer soundblaster live aux2 not found ... any idea
[04:10] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos, will ndiswrapper help?
[04:11] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, never tried, it may but not ideal
[04:11] <RML_>  Trying to install usb-creator from Unbuntu 8.04 using: "sudo apt-get install usb-creator" and the terminal said "couldn't find package"
[04:11] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos... will it work if it currently isn't working because, it not working ideal is better then not working at all
[04:12] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, like I said, I never tried, your mileage may vary
[04:12] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos, OK, thankyou, you've been a great help
[04:12] <paddy_melon> thanks
[04:13] <helper> when i open file give me : Can't locate GD.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.1 => how i can fix this thx
[04:13] <nibiru> maybe paddy u fixed my issue too
[04:13] <gungumi> 방가방가 우분투가 빠라바라바라밤
[04:13] <gungumi> 헉헉-_-;
[04:13] <FloodBot3> gungumi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <nibiru> with ndiswrapper i can easly check my inf winz driver to get aux2 tnx
[04:13] <gungumi> 안녕하세요
[04:14] <riotkittie> what's the best (as in most likely to work out of the box, with at least wpa, preferrably  wpa2) chipset in a usb wireless adapter, please and thanks. :|
[04:15] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, nw
[04:15] <psycho_oreos> !kr | gungumi
[04:15] <psycho_oreos> ahh ffs
[04:15] <psycho_oreos> oops :/ apologies
[04:15] <Eneerge> gungami is bringing back hieroglyphics
[04:15] <psycho_oreos> those are Korean characters
[04:15] <IdleOne> !korean
[04:16] <Eneerge> they're good as hiero to me
[04:16] <IdleOne> Eneerge: just think, what we are typing probably looks chinese to him too
[04:17] <Eneerge> nah, he's probably a lot more familiar with english than i am korean :)
[04:17] <Eneerge> i haven't ever seen that in my life
[04:17] <firestrider> can you ubunt be installed on a 4gb flash drive
[04:17] <IdleOne> !usb | firestrider
[04:18] <scunizi> firestrider: yep.. even a 1 giger
[04:18] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos... do U know if eeebuntu would support it?
[04:18] <firestrider> what does persistent mean? you can't write to the drive?
[04:19] <IdleOne> firestrider: yes
[04:19] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, dunno, I don't even have eeepc for starters :)
[04:19] <scunizi> firestrider: persistent means you *can* save your information
[04:20] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos... sorry
[04:20] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, but that wireless chipset, afaik does have ralink sta driver support initially and now in bleeding edge kernel versions and possibly be in wireless-testing.git, there is native support for that chipset
[04:20] <JohnTeddy> I got a new laptop, and formatted with 9.10. Everything works, sound, video, etc all work fine. When I put in an sd card into my laptop though, nothing happens. How can I find out what is wrong?
[04:21] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, the issue is that sta driver can be cumbersome, and native driver for that chipset is not recommended for beginners
[04:21] <paddy_melon> ok
[04:21] <paddy_melon> so, it may be fixed in the future?
[04:22] <psycho_oreos> paddy_melon, possibly yes, I don't know which ubuntu version will have it because this chipset is somewhat new and the native support is slowly catching up
[04:22] <apoc90> how can i make it so rhythm box autoplays the song when i click it, instead of just adding it to the library?
[04:22] <paddy_melon> psycho_oreos, thanks so much, I'll look out for it in the future
[04:22] <Linera> Hello
[04:22] <paddy_melon> in the meantime I'll try eeebuntu
[04:22] <xCalamity> hey, i've got an error trying to use 'make' under Hardy
[04:23] <Linera> Could someone please tell me how to get the taskbar to reappear in the Xfce desktop?
[04:23] <IdleOne> xCalamity: more details :)
[04:23] <Linera> it disappeared from my desktop
[04:23] <Eneerge> xCalamity, rather common problem. you might need dependencies or something may be borked in the makefile or source
[04:24] <Linera> anyone at all?
[04:24] <xCalamity> well, i'm trying to install libgd-2.0, and after a few minutes of code, i get :
[04:24] <xCalamity> /home/omega/sandbox/gd-2.0.35/gdparttopng.c:42: undefined reference to `gdImageCreateFromGd2Part'
[04:24] <xCalamity> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[04:24] <xCalamity> make[2]: *** [gdparttopng] Error 1
[04:24] <xCalamity> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/omega/sandbox/gd-2.0.35'
[04:24] <xCalamity> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
[04:24] <FloodBot3> xCalamity: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <IdleOne> Linera: try asking in #xubuntu
[04:25] <Linera> ok
[04:25] <IdleOne> !search libgd-2.0
[04:26] <Linera> looks like no on is actually there
[04:26] <Linera> :(
[04:26] <chipgeri> i installed windows 7 and recoverd grub . but windows is not detected by grub..how do i fix it?
[04:26] <Linera> i guess no fixing it then :
[04:26] <Linera> :(
[04:27] <Eneerge> theres a thread on that i believe
[04:27] <xCalamity> ah
[04:27] <IdleOne> xCalamity: I think what you want is libgd-tools ( in repositories )
[04:27] <retards> yah
[04:27] <firestrider> I couldn't figure out how to replace grub with the windows bootloader so I had to reinstall windows
[04:27] <helper> what command install GD library for perl?
[04:27] <firestrider> I'm just going to use flash drive for ubuntu
[04:28] <gantrixx> so I just did an update/upgrade on my Ubuntu 9.10 and now the youtube videos won't play
[04:28] <Eneerge> can you click anything?
[04:28] <xCalamity> thanks, i'm going to search around some more.
[04:28] <Eneerge> you may need to perform the click fix
[04:28] <gantrixx> what doyou mean click anything?
[04:28] <Linera> this really sucks...so much for using my laptop :(
[04:29] <Eneerge> I had trouble where whenever a clicked on anything in the flash object, it didn't do anything
[04:29] <RML_> Trying to install usb-creator from Unbuntu 8.04 using: "sudo apt-get install usb-creator" and the terminal said "couldn't find package"
[04:29] <adalal> RML_: tried installing from the synaptic?
[04:29] <Eneerge> you have to add some script to a file in your home directory
[04:29] <RML_> adalal: yes
[04:30] <IdleOne> RML_: usb-creator-gtk or -kde
[04:30] <adalal> RML_: try usb-creator-gtk
[04:30] <adalal> or kde
[04:30] <RML_> OK thanks
[04:31] <Eneerge> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/410407
[04:31] <Eneerge> workaround 3
[04:32] <Nubuntu> i need help does it exist ati x800gt driver for ubuntu?
[04:32] <scunizi> Eneerge: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[04:33] <Nubuntu> i need help does it exist ati x800gt driver for ubuntu?
[04:33] <Eneerge> scunizi, nope
[04:33] <JuanCarlos> Hi, do i fill a Need-Packaging Bug if the program im looking for is not more on the Karmic repos but its on Jaunty???
[04:34] <KB1JWQ> JuanCarlos: Package it yourself! :-)
[04:34] <Nubuntu> in my driver window is empty
[04:34] <scunizi> Eneerge: to fix flash.. uninstall flashplugin-nonfree and install ubuntu-restricted-extras .. unless you're on kubuntu then it's kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:34] <chipgeri>  i installed windows 7 and recoverd grub . but windows is not detected by grub..how do i fix it?
[04:34] <Omen_20> Anyone know why GRUB doesnt work with a USB keyboard?
[04:34] <adalal> chipgeri: did you run update-grub?
[04:35] <JuanCarlos> KB1JWQ, i know how to package, i got it working, but i want to see it on Kermic+ repos
[04:35] <KB1JWQ> JuanCarlos: So submit it!
[04:35] <chipgeri> adalal:no.. i ll try
[04:35] <adalal> Omen_20: unless the generic driver doesn't work for it, i dont see any other reason
[04:35] <JuanCarlos> KB1JWQ, i fill a Need-Packaging ?
[04:35] <h00k> so, I've had ubiquity fail to open, I've got a copy of the /var/log/parman, /var/log/syslog, and /var/log/installer/debug.  Should I share these in pastebins or should I open a bug and attach these?
[04:35] <scunizi> Omen_20: you're one in a million.. I was just reading the dev logs on that.. it's rare.. most don't have that problem.. could be keyboard, motherboard issues, power problem etc.. hard to nail down
[04:35] <Omen_20> Well it's just weird. It works in POST, works in the BIOs, and the OS. But not in GRUB.
[04:36] <Linera> wow, in #xunbuntu they don't know what a taskbar is
[04:36] <Out_Cold> can someone please do me a favor and nmap -A -PN sageworks.doesntexist.org??
[04:37] <Awesome3000> Out_Cold: What is that command
[04:37] <Out_Cold> for someone who knows what it is :p
[04:37] <Out_Cold> Awesome3000, nmap is a network mapping tool
[04:37] <scunizi> Out_Cold: I've started but it isn't returning anything
[04:38] <Out_Cold> used to troubleshoot networks
[04:38] <IdleOne> Out_Cold: in pm?
[04:38] <Out_Cold> scunizi, did it resolve?
[04:38] <scunizi> Out_Cold: oops.. it did..
[04:38] <scunizi> yes
[04:38] <h00k> so, I've had ubiquity fail to open (and therefore fail to install), I've got a copy of the /var/log/parman, /var/log/syslog, and /var/log/installer/debug.  Should I share these in pastebins or should I open a bug and attach these?
[04:38] <Out_Cold> 22 only?
[04:38] <scunizi> Out_Cold: I'll see if I can pastebin
[04:38] <Out_Cold> thank you
[04:38] <IdleOne> Interesting ports on S01060016b62c57a0.cg.shawcable.net (<IP_ADDRESS>):
[04:38] <IdleOne> Not shown: 999 filtered ports
[04:38] <IdleOne> PORT   STATE SERVICE VERSION
[04:38] <IdleOne> 22/tcp open  ssh     OpenSSH 5.1p1 Debian 6ubuntu2 (protocol 2.0)
[04:38] <FloodBot3> IdleOne: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:38] <IdleOne> |  ssh-hostkey: 1024 c4:92:fe:ce:ef:c2:57:c8:3f:8a:6d:2f:38:fb:17:b3 (DSA)
[04:39] <h00k> Out_Cold: perhaps next time take this into a channel other than the Ubuntu support channel
[04:39] <scunizi> Out_Cold: http://pastebin.com/m17bc9343
[04:39] <Out_Cold> it is for ubuntu support
[04:39] <Out_Cold> but thank you h00k
[04:39] <Linera> ok, i see the channel #xubuntu ppl can
[04:40] <Linera> opps
[04:40] <Linera> ok, i see the channel #xubuntu ppl can't help since they don't even know what a taskbar is
[04:40] <IdleOne> Linera: try explaining to them what you mean by taskbar. they may refer to it differently
[04:41] <Linera> i did and they don't understand
[04:41] <ardchoille> Linera: they may use the term Panel
[04:41] <Out_Cold> h00k, i have been having sever ubuntu related issues to my networking and cannot scan from inside my network and cannot troubleshoot from outside.
[04:41] <Awesome3000> Linera: what are you having trouble with
[04:41] <Linera> i said, "taskbar is a desktop display bar used to launch and monitor applications." and they don't understand
[04:41] <Out_Cold> **several
[04:41] <ardchoille> Linera: or Window List
[04:41] <Linera> Could someone please tell me how to get the taskbar to reappear in the Xfce desktop?
[04:42] <h00k> Out_Cold: gotcha
[04:42] <ardchoille> Linera: we can't give advice abnoutxubuntu because this channels ficuses on gnome
[04:42] <ardchoille> *focuses
[04:42] <PingFloyd> try running xfce-panel from your terminal
[04:42] <Linera> well that room don't even know what taskbar is after i even explained it
[04:42] <PingFloyd> or something like that
[04:42] <Out_Cold> h00k, i didn't expect the floods but i do try to maintain a support only mind set in here...
[04:42] <Linera> I need my taskbar back not panel
[04:43] <basic> can anyone tell me how to dock my hard drive
[04:43] <Out_Cold> basic, dock?
[04:43] <PingFloyd> tomato tomatoe
[04:43] <basic> i got error 17
[04:43] <Out_Cold> basic, what are you doing?
[04:43] <KayAteChef> basic, you mean mount it?
[04:43] <basic> so i had to boot with usb
[04:43] <basic> huuh
[04:43] <Awesome3000> Linera: your taskbar is a panel,  Try right clicking the desktop Applications/settings/panel
[04:43] <Gm4n> basic: we don't know what "dock" means
[04:43] <basic> i got a messed up partition
[04:44] <basic> so i had to make a usb to boot
[04:44]  * Linera facepalm
[04:44] <basic> now its online
[04:44] <Linera> its not called panel. its called tesktop: (taskbar is a desktop display bar used to launch and monitor applications.)
[04:44] <KayAteChef> :) wtf
[04:44] <basic> but eerytime i place my hard drive in it turns off
[04:44] <Linera> taskbar****
[04:44] <PingFloyd> Linera: you can have as many panels are you want
[04:44] <Out_Cold> basic, you are trying to plug in your hard drive while your computer is running??
[04:45] <h00k> Out_Cold: it's fine, it's fine, you don't have to keep justifying it to me :D
[04:45] <basic> yes
[04:45] <Out_Cold> basic, is this an external drive
[04:45] <PingFloyd> you just add the crap to the panel you want
[04:45] <basic> no internal
[04:45] <KayAteChef> basic do not do that
[04:45] <basic> for a notebook
[04:45] <Out_Cold> basic, that's BAD news
[04:45] <KayAteChef> bad basic!
[04:45] <h00k> basic: is this an IDE drive or SATA?
[04:45] <basic> now i got it hooked up to my desk top
[04:45] <basic> trying to wipe it
[04:45] <Awesome3000> Linera: What are you trying to do
[04:45] <Linera> all OSs have a taskbar; linux, windows, mac. all of them
[04:45] <basic> is that a better way
[04:46] <Linera> I just need my taskbar to reappear
[04:46] <Out_Cold> Linera, some call a rose a flower.... but it still smells the same
[04:46] <Awesome3000> Linera: Actully Mac has docks windows has taskbar and Linux has panels
[04:46] <basic> order a book linera
[04:46] <PingFloyd> it's all relative
[04:46] <IdleOne> Linera: you can keep repeating taskbar all day long. we don't know what you mean
[04:46] <basic> amazon
[04:46] <Awesome3000> Linera: Try right clicking the desktop Applications/settings/panel
[04:46] <bombel> when I try to send an email with "mail" command to my gmail account, I dont receive anything. What could be the problem?
[04:46] <ardchoille> Linera: The item you're referring to is called a Window List, and it resides on the panel. fwiw I don't evenuse a Window List inmy panel.
[04:46] <basic> so what should i do
[04:46] <h00k> so, I've had ubiquity fail to open (and therefore fail to install), I've got a copy of the /var/log/parman, /var/log/syslog, and /var/log/installer/debug.  Should I share these in pastebins or should I open a bug and attach these?
[04:46] <Gm4n> bombel: either you aren't configured as a mail server that delivers, or gmail spammed you
[04:47] <Linera> its the taskbar
[04:47] <Linera> taskbar is a desktop display bar used to launch and monitor applications.
[04:47] <basic> pm me
[04:47] <Linera> plain english there
[04:47] <basic> if u can help
[04:47] <PingFloyd> Linera: so add it to the panel
[04:47] <Awesome3000> !pm
[04:47] <ardchoille> Linera: This is Linux, the term is different here
[04:47] <PingFloyd> Linera: it's just panel plugin
[04:47] <basic> ooh
[04:47] <Out_Cold> basic, first off, hot plugging hard drives is usually a very bad idea... secondly, formatting a mounted hard drive is not happening.
[04:47] <Linera> its not called panel, its called taskbar
[04:48] <basic> i just need to know if im going the right route
[04:48] <basic> with this
[04:48] <ardchoille> Linera: If you're going to be closed minded, you're going to find it hard to get help here
[04:48] <PingFloyd> Linera: you really are thick
[04:48] <h00k> Linera: the parent container is the "Panel" in the Gnome desktop, this container can contain Applets that can handle application launcher, a taskbar for viewing running processes, a system tray, clock, etc
[04:48] <Psicoloco40> buenas
[04:48] <Awesome3000> Linera: If you want a list of open windows you need to add the window list to a panel
[04:48] <basic> never mind
[04:48] <Psicoloco40>  quien habla español?
[04:48] <basic> i think i figuored it out
[04:48] <Awesome3000> !es
[04:48] <Linera> taskbar is a desktop display bar used to launch and monitor applications.
[04:49] <ardchoille> Awesome3000: I tried to tell him that, he isn't listening
[04:49] <Linera> for example: in windows its the bar at the bottom of your desktop
[04:49] <bombel> Gm4n, I remember that some years ago I tried sending an email with the "mail" command to my university mail and it worked. Without configuring any mail server. I realized that it is also not in the spam box. What should i do to configure a server mail to deliver emails ?
[04:49] <h00k> Linera: I don't believe your terminology is correct, what are you trying to achieve?
[04:49] <ardchoille> Linera: This isn't Windows
[04:49] <ardchoille> Linera: The item you're referring to is called a Window List, and it resides on the panel.
[04:49] <Awesome3000> In Linux it is called a panel
[04:49] <Linera> in mac its the funny bar at the top or bottom of your desktop
[04:49] <PingFloyd> Linera: xfce calls it a panel
[04:49] <Eneerge> eh
[04:50] <IdleOne> Linera: try this please open a terminal and type xfce4-panel &
[04:50] <Awesome3000> In mac called a dock
[04:50] <PingFloyd> Linera: call it whatever you want, but you're not going to find unless you look for what they call it
[04:50] <Linera> in linux you have your taskbar in two pieces, one top and one bottom
[04:50] <Out_Cold> Awesome3000, i think 99.99995% of us get the point
[04:50] <IdleOne> Linera: in linux we call those panels
[04:50] <PingFloyd> IdleOne: I told him that about 10 minutes ago
[04:50] <h00k> Linera: it's not a "Taskbar" as it is in the Windows world.
[04:50] <IdleOne> Linera: if you are not going to take our advice then please stop
[04:50] <PingFloyd> IdleOne: but he wants to spend time splitting hairs over terminology
[04:51] <h00k> Linera: it inherently is different
[04:51] <retry> Linera, it's not linux...it's the specific set up in your GUI
[04:51] <Eneerge> im trying to install from a cd now instead of a usb and whenever I finish setting everything up for the install (assign partitions, etc), after i click isntall, it reports no errors, but it goes back to setting up partitions. it does this in a never ending loop. i tried changing the location for the bootloader and it still just loops back to partition setup
[04:51] <retry> you can have a near limitless variety of GUI configurations
[04:51] <retry> not to mention all the window managers there are
[04:51] <PingFloyd> retry: exactly: it's all relative
[04:51] <Xcell> Linera-   right click mouse  click open in terminal  and paste  --  xfce4-panel
[04:52] <Out_Cold> Eneerge, run the disk integrety test on the main menu