[23:26] <chrispage1980> I can't report bug ubuntu-bug thunar  (process:8083): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed


[06:05]  * Kilos Waves good morning
[06:18] <Squirm> hi
[06:40] <Kilos> hi Squirm roryy
[06:54] <Squirm> leaving jhb today
[06:54] <Squirm> bleh
[06:54] <Symmetria> sup
[06:55] <Squirm> lo Symmetria
[06:55] <Symmetria> anyone here any good with gimp/photoshop/whatever :)
[07:01] <Squirm> not me
[07:40] <Symmetria> heh
[07:40] <Symmetria> Im trying to write an innovation document, what a pain :)
[07:40] <Symmetria> actually very difficult to write a document to propose vague ideas and to quantify their benefits and their costs when they are all things no one has done before :p
[07:50] <Kilos> lol every day i learn something new
[07:53] <Kilos> http://www.freetechbooks.com/gimp-user-s-manual-t10.html
[07:55] <Symmetria> hehe I just suck at anything graphical
[07:55] <Kilos> Symmetria, ^^
[07:55] <Symmetria> :P I need a logo for my business cards hehe
[07:55] <Kilos> lol
[07:55] <Symmetria> and for documents
[07:56] <Kilos> i just use gimp to scale and crop photos
[10:03] <Kilos> hi psydroid
[10:03] <Kilos> you here all on your lonesome
[10:04] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[10:04] <psydroid> yeah
[10:04] <psydroid> but I'm never really alone
[10:04] <Kilos> are you using unity
[10:04] <Kilos> hehe
[10:05] <psydroid> I'm in too many channels
[10:05] <Kilos> ah
[10:05] <psydroid> no, I don't use it
[10:05] <Kilos> ah
[10:05] <psydroid> I have kubuntu 12.04 installed
[10:05] <Kilos> im actually getting used to it slowly
[10:05] <psydroid> and ubuntu 10.04
[10:05] <Kilos> the fly and pro will love that
[10:06] <psydroid> it's not that bad, but I don't think it's for people like me
[10:07] <psydroid> I would probably use the gnome fallback option on ubuntu 12.04, if I installed it
[10:07] <psydroid> but the GUI makes sense on tablets
[10:07] <Kilos> gnome2 was easier and faster i think
[10:08] <charlvn> good morning
[10:08] <charlvn> afternoon actually
[10:08] <Kilos> i tried the fallback, it not exactly the same
[10:08] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee on
[10:08]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[10:08] <Kilos> preferences isnt in the top panel
[10:08] <Kilos> ho charlvn
[10:08] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[10:08] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[10:09] <psydroid> good afternoon charlvn
[10:09] <charlvn> hi psydroid
[10:09] <nuvolari> oh oh ! me too
[10:09] <charlvn> hi nuvolari
[10:09] <nuvolari> Maaz: coffee please
[10:09] <Maaz> nuvolari: Righto
[10:09] <nuvolari> howdy charlvn!
[10:09] <psydroid> it's not the same, but at least more functional to me
[10:09] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos and psydroid
[10:09] <Kilos> just found an advanced unity customize book
[10:10] <psydroid> hi nuvolari
[10:10] <Kilos> hi nuvolari
[10:10] <Kilos> Maaz, unity customize
[10:10] <Maaz> http://ubuntuone.com/4hBTr1gcwxorEcCRd2cgnW
[10:10] <nuvolari> oom Kilos, just go xfce on ubuntu
[10:10] <Kilos> what you mean just go?
[10:10] <nuvolari> just use that if you're unhappy with unity
[10:11] <nuvolari> more like gnome 2 than gnome 3 or unity
[10:11] <Kilos> no man im getting used to it
[10:11] <nuvolari> oh
[10:11] <nuvolari> :P
[10:11] <nuvolari> I thought you were complaining about it
[10:11] <Kilos> xfce hasnt got bottom panel right?
[10:12] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charlvn, Kilos and nuvolari!
[10:12] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[10:12] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[10:12] <charlvn> Maaz: thanks
[10:12] <Maaz> charlvn: Okay :-)
[10:12] <charlvn> ok rain has cleared up so i'm about to jump on my bike
[10:12] <charlvn> ttyl all
[10:13] <Kilos> later dont fall off
[10:13] <Kilos> watch for wet patches where oil has gathered
[10:13] <Kilos> as in stops and robots etc
[10:14] <nuvolari> thank you Maaz
[10:14] <nuvolari> Maaz: thank you
[10:14] <Maaz> nuvolari: Sure
[10:14] <nuvolari> Maaz: botsnack
[10:14] <Maaz> Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well
[10:45] <Symmetria> hrm
[10:45] <Symmetria> man, amazon irritates me
[10:45] <Symmetria> there is SO much stuff I would buy instead of pirating if it would just let me
[10:45] <Symmetria> but nooooo Im in south africa, cant buy mp3s
[10:51] <magespawn> howdy all
[10:53] <magespawn> Maaz what is a botsnack?
[10:53] <Maaz> magespawn: I'm afraid I have no idea
[10:53] <magespawn> Maaz what do bots eat?
[10:53] <Maaz> magespawn: Not a clue, sorry
[10:53] <nuvolari> howdy magespawn
[10:53] <magespawn> hey nuvolari
[10:53] <nuvolari> lol, text I suppose
[10:54] <magespawn> bits and bytes
[10:54]  * Cantide feeds Maaz some noodles
[10:55] <Cantide> magespawn, haha :)
[10:55] <nuvolari> howdy Cantide :>
[10:55] <Cantide> then do they nibble four bits at a time? '-'
[10:55] <Cantide> hi nuvolari :)
[10:55] <nuvolari> wow, I've been overwhelmed by tiredness
[10:55] <nuvolari> I'll go for touchdown now now
[10:56] <Cantide> haha
[10:56] <Cantide> good luck :p
[11:08] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[11:08] <Kilos> hi Cantide
[11:09] <Cantide> hello :
[11:09] <Cantide> :)
[11:10] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[14:24] <Kilos> hmm talkative bunch arent we
[14:35]  * Symmetria is trying to wrap his mind around ipsec vpns
[14:38] <Kilos> nuvolari, dis Kilo se sus, eks gekonfuse
[14:39] <Symmetria> hrm
[14:39] <nuvolari> Kilos: hi tannie, hoekom? :P
[14:40] <Symmetria> I managed to get all my internet traffic to my house via my vpn point encrypted
[14:40] <Kilos> het dogter se LG 500 en is so ver as *111# en moet nou bevel gee vir no4 maar hetti 'n keypad om op te tik ni
[14:40] <Symmetria>   <131073 ESP:3des/sha1 6d4560a0 553/  unlim   -   root 500   xxx.xx.xxx.xx
[14:40] <Symmetria>   >131073 ESP:3des/sha1 c236ce68 553/  unlim   -   root 500   xxx.xx.xxx.xx
[14:41] <Symmetria> wheeee
[14:51]  * Symmetria just bought a bunch of games :)
[14:51] <Symmetria> lol, I dont mind buying games when they are reasonably priced
[14:52] <Symmetria> C&C 3 = R75, lol
[15:03] <Banlam> when did C&C3 come out?
[15:03] <Banlam> 2 -3 years ago?
[15:04] <Cantide> errr... i didn't like it
[15:05] <Symmetria> yeah 2 or 3 years ago
[15:05] <Symmetria> *shrug* I still enjoy it
[15:05] <Cantide> to each their own :)
[16:07]  * superfly has bought a few games like that
[16:08] <inetpro> good evening
[16:08] <inetpro> C&C?
[16:09] <inetpro> Command & Conquer?
[16:12] <inetpro> Kilos: eks gekonfuse
[16:12] <Kilos> hoekom inetpro
[16:13] <inetpro> you talking out of context
[16:13] <Kilos> about?
[16:13] <inetpro> about a daughter and a LG500
[16:13] <Kilos> you tell me I dont read
[16:14] <inetpro> but perhaps it's me who didn't follow previous conversations
 Kilos: hi tannie, hoekom? :P
[16:14] <Kilos> you have seen me do I look like a tannie
[16:14] <Kilos> was my sister and nuvo
[16:14] <inetpro> :-)
[16:14] <Kilos> hehe
[16:15] <inetpro> ai
[16:17] <Kilos> her daughter handed in her lg because it wasnt charging. then she left to work in namibia for a month or so and lg delivered the fone to my sis and it still dont charge
[16:17] <Kilos> so she was trying to transfer the airtime to her daughter but is totally lost on that touch screen thing
[16:18] <inetpro> yikes
[16:18] <inetpro> ok, now things are starting to make sense :-)
[16:18] <Kilos> and she gave her daughter her nokia to take with so they got mxit contact
[16:18] <Kilos> but cant buy voda airtime there
[16:19] <inetpro> eish!
[16:19] <Kilos> im just the one with access to you guys that know things but made her do her own typing
[16:20] <Kilos> shoulda done a nick change i suppose
[16:20] <Kilos> sorry
[16:20] <inetpro> Kilos: no stress
[16:20] <inetpro> I just couldn't understand the encrypted message
[16:21] <Kilos> lol
[16:22]  * inetpro wbb
[16:22] <Kilos> k
[16:56] <smile> hi all :)
[16:56] <smile> I have a question
[16:56] <magespawn> evening y'all
[16:57] <smile> How to translate this in Afrikaans? Question language
[16:57] <smile> Is that Vraag taal?
[16:57] <smile> :p
[16:57] <nuvolari> smile: in what context?
[16:58] <magespawn> direct translation that right
[16:58] <nuvolari> "Question language:" or "Question language?"
[16:58] <smile> nuvolari: Well it's a program for teaching words :)
[16:59] <smile> nuvolari: "Question language:"
[16:59] <nuvolari> smile: yeah, then that's perfect
[16:59] <Kilos> bevraag taal
[16:59] <smile> Kilos: sure? :)
[16:59] <Kilos> hi smile magespawn nuvolari
[16:59] <nuvolari> howdy oom Kilos
[16:59] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[16:59] <Kilos> what are you actually asking
[17:00] <Kilos> questioning what language is being used or what
[17:00] <nuvolari> smile: oom Kilos' version would be for the 2nd form
[17:00] <smile> Kilos: A teaching program asks which language to ask questions in
[17:00] <smile> :p
[17:00] <smile> nuvolari: so yours is better? :p
[17:00] <nuvolari> as in 'question [the] language'
[17:00] <nuvolari> smile: not better, correct :P
[17:00] <smile> Okay! :D
[17:01] <nuvolari> (according to the context) :>
[17:01] <Kilos> oh you wanted it in english
[17:01] <Kilos> yes nuvo has it
[17:01] <Kilos> question the language of choice
[17:01] <smile> nuvolari: so, Answer language: becomes Antwoord taal: or Antwoordtaal? :)
[17:01] <Kilos> reply
[17:02] <nuvolari> smile: 2 words
[17:02] <smile> nuvolari: ok :)
[17:02] <nuvolari> smile: is it for kids or grownups?
[17:02] <nuvolari> because I would prase it a little bit differently
[17:03] <nuvolari> "Taal om in te antwoord"
[17:03] <smile> nuvolari: for 11-24 ;)
[17:03] <magespawn> phrase
[17:03] <nuvolari> ack
[17:03] <nuvolari> thank you magespawn
[17:03] <nuvolari> :P
[17:03] <smile> nuvolari: so, it doesn't matter. I would like to stay as closely as possible to the English version :p
[17:03] <nuvolari> only checking if you pay attention
[17:04] <magespawn> np, no worries
[17:04] <magespawn> lol
[17:04] <Kilos> not taal van keuse nuvolari
[17:04] <Kilos> or keuse van taal
[17:04] <Kilos> sjoe i go lie down
[17:04] <smile> bye :)
[17:04] <smile> @ Kilos
[17:04] <Kilos> toods smile
[17:05] <smile> nuvolari: I think Hint in English just stays Hint in Afrikaans? :)
[17:05] <smile> Kilos: goodbye, see ya :)
[17:05] <Kilos> skimp
[17:05] <magespawn> later Kklos
[17:05] <Kilos> huh
[17:05] <magespawn> Kilos
[17:05] <Kilos> no man
[17:05] <nuvolari> smile: leidraad
[17:05] <Kilos> i was running from the language thing
[17:05] <magespawn> lol
[17:06] <smile> nuvolari: or aanwysing / tip ?
[17:06] <Kilos> not easy to just change 2 words without know where they gonna be used
[17:06] <smile> It's a hint for an unknown word :)
[17:06] <smile> Like @ hang man
[17:06] <nuvolari> smile: aanwysing is more like direction
[17:07] <smile> nuvolari: ok :) I think tip is the most accurate, don't you think?
[17:07] <nuvolari> but tip is not afrikaans?
[17:07] <nuvolari> leidraad would be the clearest description :P
[17:07] <magespawn> thats what the wife says too
[17:08] <smile> nuvolari: really not? :o
[17:09] <nuvolari> smile: tip in afrikaans would be like tipping over
[17:09] <smile> nuvolari: I see :D
[17:09] <smile> nuvolari: are you bored of me asking questions ;) or can I ask some more
[17:09] <smile> :p
[17:09] <Kilos> go on we are all learning
[17:10] <magespawn> indeed
[17:10] <Kilos> is this a questioaire you are vertaling
[17:10] <nuvolari> if the others don't mind
[17:10] <magespawn> i don't
[17:10] <smile> Kilos: yeah, a part of an app ;)
[17:10] <smile> Sort becomes Sorteer, right? :)
[17:10] <Banlam> correct
[17:10] <nuvolari> correct
[17:10] <Kilos> ok so its like language----
[17:11] <Kilos> and you enter your choice there?
[17:11] <nuvolari> you should watch Noot-vir-Noot :P
[17:11] <Kilos> yo Banlam you came to life
[17:11] <Banlam> yes i did
[17:12] <smile> Ask foreign - known => Vraag vreemde - bekende
[17:12] <nuvolari> hrr. is it possible to have the same photo's in multiple albums on picasa?
[17:12] <smile> ? :)
[17:12] <smile> nuvolari: Not sure, but I think it's impossible
[17:12] <Banlam> smile, what does that mean?
[17:12] <Banlam> ask  foreign?
[17:12] <magespawn> yes it is nuvolari
[17:12] <smile> They mean: ask words from the foreign language or ask words from the known language
[17:13] <smile> magespawn: really?
[17:13] <Kilos> i would add taal to vreemde and bekende
[17:13] <nuvolari> smile: ah, then rather "vraag van vreemde of bekende"
[17:13] <Banlam> smile, would be "Vra vreemd"
[17:13] <Banlam> or the whole sentence
[17:13] <smile> Vra van vreemde of bekende ? :)
[17:13] <magespawn> i think you have to do it on the local machine
[17:14] <Banlam> smile, no like nuvolari
[17:14] <Banlam> i was getting confused
[17:14] <smile> Banlam: ok :)
[17:14] <nuvolari> magespawn: eek, using the picasa app?
[17:14] <magespawn> on the web you can you just upload to two albums
[17:15] <magespawn> long time since i used it
[17:15]  * nuvolari is actually trying to save on uploads :P
[17:15] <magespawn> is that problem?
[17:15] <magespawn> ahh okay then
[17:16] <nuvolari> I pretty much want duplicates, or for the images to show up in 2 places
[17:16] <nuvolari> like tagging
[17:16] <nuvolari> but I don't know how to retrieve tagged photo's in google+
[17:16] <nuvolari> I don't think it's possible
[17:17] <magespawn> not sure I will have look in the morning
[17:17] <nuvolari> ag, I'm just going to extract the photo's to a different album
[17:17] <nuvolari> can't do harm
[17:18] <Kilos> hehe just had a memory from dunno when
[17:19] <nuvolari> oh! there's copy :>
[17:19] <Kilos> the guy said i can speak all languages except greek
[17:19] <magespawn> Kilos?
[17:19] <nuvolari> magespawn: found the copy option!
[17:19] <magespawn> ahh thought there was one
[17:19] <Kilos> ask him say this in a language and hed say thats greek to me
[17:21] <smile> Unnamed = naamloos ?  for more details.
[17:32] <smile> Maaz: help me with looking things up
[17:32] <Maaz> smile: I use the following features for looking things up: apt-file, aptitude, bash, bible, dict, distance, dns, factoid, feeds, fml, fortune, google, help, imdb, lastfm, lotto, mac, man, microblog, mlia, oeis, ports, rfc, seen, tfln, tinyurl, tld, translate, tvshow, unicode, weather and youtube
[17:32] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[17:32] <smile> Maaz: how do I use google
[17:32] <Maaz> smile: Retrieves results from Google and Google Calculator.  http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Make-Me-Think-Usability/dp/0321344758 :: "Don't Make Me Think! A Common Sense Approach to Web Usability ..." http://www.amazon.com/Think-Common-Sense-Approach-Usability/dp/0789723107 :: "Advanced Common Sense - Don't Make Me Think" http://www.sensible.com/dmmt.html :: "Advanced Common Sense - Steve Krug's Web site" http://www.sensible.com/ ::
[17:35] <magespawn> lol
[17:42] <Kilos> wb roryy
[17:42] <Kilos> kbmonkey, ping
[18:04] <roryy> evening
[18:07] <Kilos> hi there
[18:09] <inetpro> smile: ping
[18:10] <smile> inetpro: ping! :p
[18:10] <inetpro> you should ask these language related questions at #zaf
[18:10] <smile> Okay, thanks ;)
[18:10] <inetpro> the channel has not been busy lately but the guys from translate.org.za hang out there
[18:11] <inetpro> they are the experts when it comes to translations
[18:12] <Kilos> smile, ^^
[18:13] <Kilos> experts
[18:13] <smile> ;)
[18:13] <smile> I like that ^^
[18:13] <smile> Just a bit more :D
[18:13] <Kilos> they shouldnt um er dunno lemme thing
[18:13] <Kilos> hehe
[18:13] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:13] <smile> All language-skilled people should join that channel! now! Come to #zaf :)
[18:13] <Kilos> think
[18:14] <Kilos> hehe
[18:14] <smile> ^^
[18:14] <inetpro> smile: in fact those guys have built some fancy tools to assist in translating stuffs
[18:15] <inetpro> like pootle
[18:15] <Kilos> theres near no one there
[18:15] <smile> inetpro: cool :)
[18:16] <inetpro> Kilos: eh
[18:17] <inetpro> Kilos: 2 operators and 6 users - no one ?
[18:17] <inetpro> Kilos: 2 operators and 6 users = no one ?
[18:17] <Kilos> lol im one of them and you
[18:19] <smile> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=7tUxrwYrwqo&NR=1 <- Kilos, like it? :)
[18:19] <Kilos> no man i dont do the tube
[18:20] <smile> :(
[18:20] <smile> it's called mutual attraction
[18:20] <smile> with a lot of funky rhythm :)
[18:24] <inetpro> smile: Tools to help you make your software local http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/
[18:25] <smile> It's not my software :)
[18:25] <smile> but, I'll give it a look
[18:25] <smile> :p
[18:25] <smile> I guess that's DokuWiki
[18:26] <smile> And the icon proves I'm right
[18:26] <smile> :)
[18:33] <smile> bye :)
[18:34] <inetpro> smile: totsiens
[18:34] <Kilos> magespawn, where you find a boere meisie in natal
[18:34] <Kilos> toods smile
[18:34] <Kilos> kip cool
[18:34] <smile> good night!


[03:17] <mesquka> Hi
[06:43] <sagaci> mesquka: hi
[09:23] <mesquka> Hi
[09:57] <sagaci> anyone around for the meeting..
[10:11] <jea> sagaci: we didn't really schedule it properly
[10:12] <jea> Maybe we should set dates for the 2013 meetings, and get things going properly
[10:12] <jea> the main issue is that we don't have anything to really talk about
[10:18] <sagaci> yep
[10:18] <jea> will you or will I make the meetings in l.u.c?
[10:24] <sagaci> you can if you feel like it
[10:25] <jea> Ok, I will get that done soon
[11:10] <head_victim> Sorry all, I thought the meeting was due next week. Thanks sagaci and jea for showing though.
[11:13] <jea> head_victim: I guess today would be the correct date, but I had forgotten also
[11:17] <head_victim> I don't know about you but this week's been crazy. Started back at work, started back at uni (first assessment due tomorrow) and now I forgot this :/
[11:21] <jea> Wow, that is a lot. Luckily I am still on holidays, but I have started back at work again
[11:22] <head_victim> I see we've had some other vocals join the channel recently. Friend of yours or just from here?


[01:01] <Guest10373> #ububuntu-es
[01:03] <tomreyn> /join #ubuntu-es
[06:29] <Revan343> Hey all
[06:30] <Revan343> Anybody happen to know the command to start the application menu from the command line? Google's not being helpful
[06:31] <Revan343> (I want to run an instance of it over xpra, so I can easily start whatever other programs I want)
[06:41] <Revan343> (Might be the whole taskbar I'm looking to run, now that I think about it)
[06:41] <guiverc> .
[06:43] <guiverc> Revan343, /etc/xdg/menus/lxqt-applications.menu contains the menu, lxqt-panel runs it, pcmanfm-qt is both the desktop.manager & file.manager for lxqt, lxqt-runner maybe easier to start programs
[07:02] <Revan343> guiverc: Sweet, thank you
[07:04] <Revan343> Hm. lxqt-runner doesn't want to actually show up
[07:05] <Revan343> (lxqt-panel sorta worked-- it just showed as a black bar, though the menu still worked fine)
[07:05] <Revan343> Still, this is progress, thanks for the help :)
[07:05] <guiverc> I may have added lxqt-runner to my system, yeah I don't see it in https://packages.ubuntu.com/groovy/lubuntu-desktop
[07:06] <Revan343> Oh it's installed
[07:06] <Revan343> It's just not displaying right
 hu
[07:07] <Revan343> Nothing's displaying quite right, I definitely need to work out some bugs with xpra, but runner isn't displaying at all :(
 i installed ubuntu minimal
[07:08] <guiverc> i have no experience with xpra so cannot help there (I was ignoring that detail as I know zip about it)
 but some programs are not working properly
[07:10] <Revan343> guiverc: I figured, I'm just thinking out loud at this point
[07:11] <Revan343> (xpra is basically screen for GUI programs, the idea is to simplify X11 forwarding, because x11 forwarding is a pain in general, and keep things running during disconnects)
 it says "application data not found" : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/fae99ec3/file_2036.jpg
 but i type sudo -H gnome-software and it works fine
 I don't want to enter these commands every time I want to open the program
 looks like this and doesnt let me install any programs : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/fb2ef889/file_2037.jpg
[07:21] <guiverc> @alamutfedaisi, you may be better suited using #ubuntu, as gnome-software & ubuntu-minimal are not Lubuntu products


 @TotalSonic [Rudi Timmerman just kindly built this arm64 version of uFTP - and it works well …], wow, thank you very much … I was actually looking if there's any Qt desktop app so it'll run natively but I didn't find any 😅
 @Flohack [In this case it seems implemented in the display driver to send a power button e …], I wonder if it'll also work on Nexus 5 with halium 7 … it's more beneficial on it since power button is always busted 😆 … I currently use magnet to lock/unlock it 😄
[04:07] <ubptgbot> <tukmol kulapu> what file manager has a highspeed big files transferring?
 @tukmol kulapu [what file manager has a highspeed big files transferring?], What are you trying to do?  With Ubuntu Touch for large file syncing and backups I find either the `Syncthing` (arm64 & armhf) or `ubsync` (armhf only currently) work best.  Also - services like Hightail and WeTransfer can work well for high speed transfers of
[04:20] <ubptgbot> large files - I have an annual "pro" subscription with Hightail for my business and made a link to my accounts upload page using the `Webber` app.
 Geary, a Gnome3 email desktop/tablet client, has been updated to version 40, with an adaptive ui, that should allow it to be easily usable on phone form factors.  I am running an older version of Geary already in a Libertine container, and while its current gui is a bit clunky on my Volla phone, it does allow me to reliably send emails
[04:30] <ubptgbot>  through my Bluehost account, where as Dekko2 for some unknown reason sometimes fails to send to this account.  I'm wondering whether it would be possible to package this new version to an arm64 16.04 compatible deb, or whether it would be missing some dependencies.  Perhaps the eventual update to 20.04 base will make using this app in Libertine po
[04:30] <ubptgbot> ssible without other further work from UT developers, otherwise, perhaps this could eventually be packaged as a click as well.  … https://www.linuxuprising.com/2021/04/geary-email-client-400-released-with.html
 [Edit] Geary, a Gnome3 email desktop/tablet client, has been updated to version 40, with an adaptive ui, that should allow it to be easily usable on phone form factors.  I am running an older version of Geary already in a Libertine container, and while its current gui is a bit clunky on my Volla phone, it does allow me to reliably send
[04:30] <ubptgbot>  emails through my Bluehost account, where as Dekko2 for some unknown reason sometimes fails to send using this account.  I'm wondering whether it would be possible to package this new version to an arm64 16.04 compatible deb, or whether it would be missing some dependencies.  Perhaps the eventual update to 20.04 base will make using this app in Li
[04:30] <ubptgbot> bertine possible without other further work from UT developers, otherwise, perhaps this could eventually be packaged as a click as well.  … https://www.linuxuprising.com/2021/04/geary-email-client-400-released-with.html
[04:41] <ubptgbot> <Ashic Vivo> Trying to install ubuntu touch in redmi note 7. … Error: core:manual download: Error: checksum mismatch.
 @Ashic Vivo [Trying to install ubuntu touch in redmi note 7. … Error: core:manual download: Err …], Sounds like you need to check your internet connection and try again.
[04:46] <ubptgbot> <Ashic Vivo> Internet is connected, tried again but still the same error
 @Ashic Vivo [Internet is connected, tried again but still the same error], hmmm - maybe there is an issue with the repo then
 @Ashic Vivo [Trying to install ubuntu touch in redmi note 7. … Error: core:manual download: Err …], you need to unpack the vendor zip
 @Ashic Vivo [Trying to install ubuntu touch in redmi note 7. … Error: core:manual download: Err …], Also make sure you are not using installer 0.8.7. Best to delete and then install 0.8.8
 The OnePlus 5 refurbished around €120, the 5T around €100. Metal bodies. Seems like a good choice
 @Stereofont [The OnePlus 5 refurbished around €120, the 5T around €100. Metal bodies. Seems l …], Yes its a very good device. Just will start daily drive this week.
 We are waiting unfortunately for a commit that is blocked by OTA 17 now. Otherwise we could release it to the installer
 Cool, has the wifi issue been fixed? I heared it's a tricky problem that the indicator doesn't always work as expected.
 @nfsprodriver [Cool, has the wifi issue been fixed? I heared it's a tricky problem that the ind …], No. But we have a plan. I need however to snoop the DBus activations on startup, thats a bit tricky to catch
[11:49] <ubptgbot> amJiNaX was added by: amJiNaX
 (Photo, 600x800) https://irc.ubports.com/amfHKY4p.png
 (Photo, 600x800) https://irc.ubports.com/rcaFbz8i.png
 lavender
 is the multitask bug still there?
[12:44] <ubptgbot> Baha_Koks was added by: Baha_Koks
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/90S1awGX.png
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/X1qmHpeA.png
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/wuHZ65Fy.png the phone does not turn on
[13:08] <ubptgbot> <Edwin Hao> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZugAfhWkPA
 @Baha_Koks [<reply to media>], This means the downloaded files are not the one the program excepted.
 @Baha_Koks [<reply to media>], Have you tried booting into the recovery or bootloader?
 @Baha_Koks [<reply to media>], bro try to flash vendor.img from recovery and before flashing that wipe everything system data cach vendor and then flash vendor.img and then try to flash ubport
 Graphene Os vs Ubuntu Os in phone
 @Todolamundo [Graphene Os vs Ubuntu Os in phone], grapheneOS has disk encryption. UT does not
 So graphene works better for security and anonimity
 @Todolamundo [So graphene works better for security and anonimity], yes, but its based on android, so depends on what you think about that
 Exactly
 What Will be a good Disk encryption for the ubuntu phone
 it does not support disk encryption yet
 😭
 sailfishOS supports it though
 and if you have a PinePhone, many distros support disk encryption also.
 Oké Personally i have more trust in Ubuntu because it exist much longer
 @dohbee time ban i guess: https://t.me/ubports/337682
 he said that he's not in that group
 this is in this group
 @Fuseteam [this is in this group], oh, i thought it was in porting group
 ahh, i see, its just above
 yeah its starting to get irritating
 and frankly sus but hey i might be stretching it now
 i want to analyse network traffic but it needs an email, and i don't even want to give a throwaway
 @lduboeuf [not i am aware off, but meanwhile: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/ …], Oh thanks
 @amJiNaX [<reply to media>], how did you get it installed? uses windows or linux? used which ubports installer?
 @PC0306 [how did you get it installed? uses windows or linux? used which ubports installe …], used pc … latest ubports … method is so easy
 @PC0306 [how did you get it installed? uses windows or linux? used which ubports installe …], bro try to flash vendor.img from recovery and before flashing that wipe everything system data cach vendor and then flash vendor.img and then try to flash ubport … try this
 Hi, Problem wich dekko v0.3.3 cannot reply, crashes immediately and everytime.nexus 5 with ota16
 With O365 account only,using IMAP
 @amJiNaX [used pc … latest ubports … method is so easy], PC, windows or Linux ??
 @amJiNaX [bro try to flash vendor.img from recovery and before flashing that wipe everythi …], Twrp???
 @PC0306 [PC, windows or Linux ??], windows bro
 @PC0306 [Twrp???], yes twrp or orange fox recovery
 @amJiNaX [windows bro], 7 or 10??
 @PC0306 [7 or 10??], Android 10
 Windows ??????? In PC
[19:18] <ubptgbot> ebaltvoikaif was added by: ebaltvoikaif
 Windows 7 or windows 10
 @PC0306 [PC, windows or Linux ??], I wonder if the UBports installer works on reactOS
 Yes
 Neaeh asked well
[20:06] <ubptgbot> agoraquando was added by: agoraquando
 @Kaptainzer0 [Neaeh asked well], eh?
 Sorry wrong group.
[20:48] <ubptgbot> Dibz Montequin was added by: Dibz Montequin
[21:28] <ubptgbot> <Dibz Montequin> https://cutt.ly/6v5ZPgV … 𝓔𝓛𝓞𝓝 𝓜𝓤𝓢𝓚 𝓞𝓟𝓔𝓝 𝓒𝓡𝓨𝓟𝓣𝓞 𝓐𝓘𝓡𝓓𝓡𝓞𝓟!!! … PERFECT!!!!
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/7R522Amt.mp4
 Caught another live bot
 @jja2000 [Caught another live bot], https://i.tedster.net/i/Telegram_vAsemzGYLz.png
 and here's another in another group
[21:38] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/ATIXY3HP.png
 @Tedster [and here's another in another group], why did you post that in here?
 @dohbee [why did you post that in here?], because a bot had just sent it here; as a means of recognizing that phishing thing has a greater reach.
 showing us a screenshot of a bot posting spam elsewhere isn't really helpful though
 and i don't even see any spam in the recent actions. so 🤷♀
 @dohbee [and i don't even see any spam in the recent actions. so 🤷♀], I love being gaslit
 maybe telegram changed how the stuff works when they end up being the ones deleting the spammers
 and it doesn't show up in the admin recent log any more
 so yeah super annoying
 @dohbee [maybe telegram changed how the stuff works when they end up being the ones delet …], Nope, it should still show deleted accounts
 better to just ignore the spam than reply to it or ping people
 so yeah, I love being gaslit
 @dohbee [better to just ignore the spam than reply to it or ping people], It's better to counteract with captcha bots, but nooooo
 whatever. i have no idea wtf you mean yb "gaslit"
 @dohbee [whatever. i have no idea wtf you mean yb "gaslit"], being told that a thing which was there is no longer there
 for example
 and being led to believe it never could have
 it's a statement of fact
 it does not appear in the admin recent list.
 @Tedster [being told that a thing which was there is no longer there], imagine how it feels being pinged about spam, and not being able to see it anywhere
 @dohbee [imagine how it feels being pinged about spam, and not being able to see it anywh …], Nobody pinged you
 not this time no
 but it has happened before, yes
 no need for you to be so rude either
 @dohbee [but it has happened before, yes], Well no shit, you were slow
 Bro
 I was not being rude
 @dohbee [imagine how it feels being pinged about spam, and not being able to see it anywh …], We believe you! However, it's concerning nonetheless. I was just trying to explain the concept of gaslighting with this as an example, as that's what I thought was being requested.
 You're deleting my messages
 we follow the Ubuntu Code of Conduct in UBports groups. if you can't do so, you are welcome to leave
 @Tedster [We believe you! However, it's concerning nonetheless. I was just trying to expla …], i know what gaslighting is. i didn't know what he meant in this context by claiming i was somehow gaslighting him
 @dohbee [i know what gaslighting is. i didn't know what he meant in this context by claim …], I understand that now, yes (: … However, I interpreted it as a mention of distaste for Telegram gaslighting
 @dohbee [we follow the Ubuntu Code of Conduct in UBports groups. if you can't do so, you …], I hate when spammers invade my chat, but instead of actually taking proper suggestions into consideration or accepting critique I end up deleting the person's messages and point to a hardly findable CoC
 Every time I enter this chat there are hundreds of join messages of people that aren't even human, and I can constantly spot phishing links
 It's not even funny
 well now you can be muted for 24 hours. we've told you we aren't adding a captcha bot. just ignore the spam ffs. it will be deleted without you posting stupid gifs or anything
 you've caused more problematic noise in here than any spam ever has
 Is that worth giving a mute over
 and i'd rather deal with spam than having random people PMing me because they got banned by a stupid captcha bot that creates even more noise in the group
 @Sam [Is that worth giving a mute over], being told multiple times and still pushing even resorting to lashing out? uh kinda i guess
 @dohbee [and i'd rather deal with spam than having random people PMing me because they go …], Please do add some sort of reference to the code of conduct in the group's info/description box (:
 i suppose it's an unwritten rule that we follow the Ubuntu CoC v2.0
 https://t.me/UBportsOF/6405
 its not like people actually read the group description these days tho
 @Fuseteam [i suppose it's an unwritten rule that we follow the Ubuntu CoC v2.0], not really unwritten, since "Ubuntu" is in the name of "Ubuntu Touch"
 @Fuseteam [its not like people actually read the group description these days tho], or ever.
 eh, i give the benefit of the doubt that there is an older generation that did read the group description once upon a time
 https://ubports.com/foundation/ubports-foundation/foundation-codeofconduct
 which, granted, is not the easiest to find
 plus it's a long URL, and group descriptions have limited length available
 maybe we should add a "Code of Conduct: <link here>" in the group description to make it easier to find, even tho people don't read the description, it'll at least be easier to find
 i'm sure it'll fit...........probably
 It's alright, Rodney is always right
 that's not the issue he—
 A reminder that all of the UBports chat groups adhere to the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which you can find at https://ubports.com/foundation/ubports-foundation/foundation-codeofconduct
 @dohbee [A reminder that all of the UBports chat groups adhere to the Ubuntu Code of Cond …], 👍🏻
 of course, just like group descriptions and user profiles, people also tend to not read pinned messages on telegram
 i just hope people actually read the pinned messages :c
 I mean if people don't read the messages that are this much in-your-face it's on them imho
 Can only do so much
 i suppose, doesn't make the job easier tho
 you should see what happens in the welcome group sometimes
 @Fuseteam [i suppose it's an unwritten rule that we follow the Ubuntu CoC v2.0], but I feel it really should be a written rule (:
 @Fuseteam [its not like people actually read the group description these days tho], am I not people? (:
 @dohbee [plus it's a long URL, and group descriptions have limited length available], could use some sort of shortener?
 it is a written rule. right there on the web site :)
 anyway, it's pinned now too
 @dohbee [it is a written rule. right there on the web site :)], Though there is nothing to immediately or authoritatively confirm that this indeed is directly connected to that.
 @dohbee [<reply to unk>], Thanks! (:
 Are you the only admin of this group; are there others who I just haven't bothered to scroll down far enough to see?
 i am not
 there are several others
 Ah.
 Anyone have anbox on UT running on a Pixel3a
 @Onp0int [Anyone have anbox on UT running on a Pixel3a], Yes, since early March. What would you like to know?
 Oups sorry no anbox just running UT on Oixek 3a
 Pixel*
 Ok thanks
 @Tedster [could use some sort of shortener?], less people would click on short links :)
 @mateosalta [less people would click on short links :)], You're not wrong!


[01:51] <dr3mro> hello
[01:52] <dr3mro> I downloaded saucy and did update it but i found some bugs here and there tried solved some but there it a bug i don't know how to fix .. if you open gedit and right click the text area the used font of context menu it not following the rest of the system font it's a monospace font ?
[09:56] <flipper89_fl> morning
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:17] <erle-> what gnome version will 13.10 have?
[15:20] <chjunior> can someone take a look at this? http://pastie.org/private/slegfu1aqgtagkpwcifbsg
[15:20] <chjunior> I'm having some weird issue with libgphoto2-2
[15:22] <chjunior> more details: http://pastie.org/private/g8wndrs2y2peq6omq5jilg
[15:27] <BluesKaj> ok, if anyone on Kubuntu 13.10 has lsb-core and ia32-libs installed then trying to upgrade or dist-upgrade today may create a dependency hell loop. Especially if you had google-earth installed which was taken out by yesterday's upgrade
[15:27] <chjunior> BluesKaj, can you help me on that?
[15:28] <chjunior> if you don't mind
[15:28] <BluesKaj> om what ?
[15:28] <BluesKaj> on'
[15:29] <BluesKaj> chjunior, about my post or do you have a separate problem?
[15:29] <chjunior> I gess it's a separate one
[15:29] <chjunior> http://pastie.org/private/g8wndrs2y2peq6omq5jilg
[15:29] <chjunior> it's a dependency hell as wll
[15:29] <BluesKaj> I just joined so i can'tr see your question chjunior
[15:30] <chjunior> BluesKaj, I'm having some weird issue with libgphoto2-2. can someone take a look at this? http://pastie.org/private/g8wndrs2y2peq6omq5jilg
[15:30] <BluesKaj> yes i see , chjunior
[15:32] <BluesKaj> the problem is there's no solution atm until the dependency problem is fixed ...I tried to track down the offending dependency but it's not removable
[15:33] <chjunior> you had the same issue as I did?
[15:33] <chjunior> same package (libgphoto)
[15:33] <BluesKaj> yes, exactly
[15:33] <chjunior> wow
[15:34] <chjunior> so that affected not just kubuntu, but ubuntu as well
[15:34] <chjunior> and I didn't have google earth
[15:35] <BluesKaj> ok, good to know about google earth as well
[15:35] <chjunior> that's a pain in the ass =/
[15:36] <BluesKaj> looks like it's an OS wide problem , i'm going post it in kubuntu-dev to see what the response is .
[15:37] <BluesKaj> ok done
[15:37] <chjunior> cool
[15:41] <BluesKaj> well I have other stuff to do , so i'll have to leave it for now
[15:47] <genii> Should probably do ubuntu-bug libgphoto2-2
[17:53] <chjunior> genii, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgphoto2/+bug/1207466
[17:54] <genii> chjunior: Now it's basically a waiting game.
[17:54] <chjunior> yeah =/
[17:55] <chjunior> the bad thing about apt-get issues is that for now I basically can't install any deb package
[18:22] <chjunior> genii, is there a way to revert anything so I get back to a normal state?
[18:22] <chjunior> normal working state
[18:23] <genii> chjunior: Guess you could remove all the concurrent versions of libgphoto2 and then try apt-get -f install again. although I'm not sure what all it may want to remove along with that.
[18:25] <chjunior> genii, that's funny, it says I don't have any libgphoto2 installed when I do that
[18:25] <chjunior> or, actually
[18:25] <chjunior> I have libgphoto2-2:i386
[18:25] <chjunior> but trying to remove that brings me back to the dependency issue
[18:47] <genii> chjunior: Maybe do: grep -n libgphoto2-2 /var/lib/dpkg/status | grep Package   ..to find out what line number it's stanza starts at. Then you can: sudo nano +<the-line-number-from-grep> /var/lib/dpkg/status and see what it says about that package in there
[19:13] <chjunior> genii,  grep -n libgphoto2-2 /var/lib/dpkg/status | grep Package
[19:13] <chjunior> 51952:Package: libgphoto2-2
[19:13] <chjunior> 51980:Package: libgphoto2-2
[19:15] <chjunior> genii, one says "deinstall ok config-files"
[19:15] <chjunior> the other one says "install ok half-configured"
[19:40] <genii> Hm.
[20:00] <chjunior> genii, does it mean anything for you?
[20:05] <genii> chjunior: Basically there is where dpkg looks to see what state things are in.