[12:00] <troy14> i am currently using the webmin that was included with the distro. i did not upgrade it to 1.200
[12:00] <matt1987> can any one help
[12:00] <matt1987> i installed the rar thingy from the unofficial guide but i dunno how to fuind it on my system
[12:01] <holycow> matt1987, you don't haveto find it
[12:01] <anto9us> matt1987: try typing unrar on the command line, I think that's all the package supplies
[12:01] <troy14> MASoft, I could probably take a screenshot of the webmin setup if you need that...
[12:01] <holycow> archive manager will automatically use it
[12:01] <holycow> just use archive manager
[12:02] <mcquaid> when i installed unrar-nonfree i had to sym link unrar to rar to get file roller to unpack rars
[12:02] <mcquaid> found that kinda strange
[12:02] <matt1987> anyone know how to install pc games
[12:02] <fallstorm> bonjour du monde
[12:03] <Brunellus> ugh.  I can't get network printing to work
[12:03] <troy14> matt1987, try installing wine.
[12:03] <troy14> that may work with some games
[12:03] <Licker> Question: I need to edit the sources.list file. But need to login to root to change the (read only) status. How would I do this?
[12:03] <matt1987> where can i get that
[12:03] <Segosa> how do I restart the ssh daemon?
[12:03] <fallstorm> Licker, use sudo
[12:03] <tritium> Licker, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:03] <Brunellus> licker:  sudo
[12:03] <mcquaid> Licker, or you can add sources from within synaptic
[12:04] <Licker> oh really?
[12:04] <mcquaid> yep
[12:04] <orhs> hello everyone,....
[12:04] <orhs> my wlan0 is gone
[12:04] <matt1987> where can i get wine
[12:04] <troy14> Licker, copy the file to the desktop, then you can open it with a text editor like vi or openoffice writer. save your changes, and in terminal run "sudo cp Desktop/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:04] <tritium> matt1987, it's in universe
[12:04] <Brunellus> orhs
[12:04] <Brunellus> how is it gone?
[12:04] <Licker> no its a read only file it says I need to change access to edit it.
[12:05] <troy14> matt1987, wine is available through synaptic
[12:05] <MASoft> troy14, ok, take a screenshot !
[12:05] <mcquaid> Licker, setting/repostories then add then custom
[12:05] <tanek> wine: '/tmp/.wine-1000/server-1606-a1b9' must not be accessible by other users how do i fix this? :S
[12:05] <MASoft> troy14, I couldn't find anything that make problem in Webmin, MySQL part !
[12:05] <troy14> Licker, right, thats why you copy it to the desktop first, then open, change, save, copy back to .etc.apt
[12:05] <Segosa> how do I restart the ssh daemon? ;/
[12:05] <matt1987> how do i use it
[12:05] <tritium> Licker, no need to deal with copies.  You can edit it directly with sudo.
[12:06] <fallstorm> Segosa, find its PID using ps, then kill -9 it
[12:06] <fallstorm> err, kill -HUP
[12:06] <Licker> Trit.. explain
[12:06] <Segosa> oh, okay, fallstorm
[12:06] <Brunellus> orhs:  what's wrong with your wlan0?
[12:06] <Segosa> thought there was a more elegant way
[12:06] <mcquaid> licker sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:06] <mcquaid> type in your password
[12:06] <Weems> how do I enable mp3 support?
[12:06] <fallstorm> There probably is, but that's probably the simplest way
[12:06] <FunnyHat> If I downloaded / installed the package w32codecs, why will Totem and VLC still not play WMV files?
[12:06] <fallstorm> There's often more than one way to skin a cat, that's just how I do it :)
[12:06] <Segosa> heh ok
[12:06] <Brunellus> Weems:  go to the Restricted-Formats wikipage on the ubuntu website
[12:06] <holycow> fsckit!
[12:07] <holycow> i hate these intermitted ide ribbon tape probs, heh
[12:07] <holycow> always the last thing one check
[12:07] <tritium> Segosa, fallstorm, there is a more elegant way.
[12:07] <Segosa> which is?
[12:07] <tritium> Segosa, "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart"
[12:07] <holycow> FunnyHat, totem-gstreamer doesn't use the w32 codecs, it uses gstreamer codecs
[12:07] <matt1987> how do i run  wine
[12:07] <fallstorm> too much for me to remember
[12:08] <Segosa> lol damn
[12:08] <cbo> hello all, does someone know how to stop kubuntu listening on port 5900 (vnc) by default?
[12:08] <Segosa> one letter off how it is in gentoo
[12:08] <FunnyHat> holycow, How do I use the w32codecs?
[12:08] <Licker> oh crap. THANX! lol that was easy
[12:08] <Licker> :p
[12:08] <Segosa> thanks tritium
[12:08] <matt1987> how do i run  wine
[12:08] <tritium> Segosa, no problem.  All the init scripts are located there.  So if you need to restart any other services, look there.  it's not that hard to remember ;)
[12:08] <mcquaid> FunnyHat, try totem-xine instead
[12:09] <FunnyHat> matt1987, wine exe_file.exe
[12:09] <Segosa> heh yeah :)
[12:09] <jordanau> mcquaid, yeah i got completely rid of totem, hated it
[12:09] <Leppiz> can anyone help me please? is it possible to have two esd-daemons? playing different music to my two soundcards?
[12:09] <Licker> whats the command to run get-apt update?
[12:10] <fallstorm> apt-get update
[12:10] <tritium> sudo apt-get update
[12:10] <Licker> oh. ok
[12:10] <Licker> :p
[12:10] <Segosa> rofl
[12:10] <mcquaid> i love totem, why do u hate it?
[12:11] <mcquaid> i don't use it as my music player though, but for video it's great
[12:11] <Brunellus> ok, will someone help me out on a network printing issue?
[12:11] <Burgundavia> cbo, it shouldn't
[12:11] <schlomo> Hi
[12:11] <fallstorm> Brunellus, it's typically best to just ask your question and if someone can help, they will
[12:11] <Licker> humm.. it says.. E: Type 'rpm' is not known on line 29 in source list
[12:12] <Segosa> hmm, another wonder.. what's the file that holds all the network configuration in?
[12:12] <Licker> whats that mean..
[12:12] <Brunellus> I can ping my printserver
[12:12] <schlomo> I have installed Ubuntu Hoary for a friend
[12:12] <Brunellus> but when I try to print from it
[12:12] <truz24> I had to add a 1900x1200 option to my xorg.conf file because it wasn't there by default... now ubuntu goes into 1900x1200, but now there is a blur every 100 pixels or so that you notice if you look closely...
[12:12] <fallstorm> Licker, apt-get in ubuntu doesn't use rpm files, it uses deb files
[12:12] <thierry> Listen This : Hot Stream ---> http://piripiri012.webperoni.de/zimmbi.m3u
[12:12] <truz24> are there any other settings i need to change?
[12:12] <thierry> Listen This : Hot Stream ---> http://piripiri012.webperoni.de/zimmbi.m3u
[12:12] <schlomo> with reiserfs filesystem
[12:12] <Brunellus> it shows 'network host is busy, down or unreachable'
[12:12] <fallstorm> So you're asking apt-get to install files it doesn't know anything about
[12:12] <Licker> ohhh
[12:12] <thierry> please
[12:12] <thierry> listen this
[12:12] <fallstorm> You can install/manipulate rpms with alien
[12:12] <thierry> Listen This : Hot Stream ---> http://piripiri012.webperoni.de/zimmbi.m3u
[12:12] <Brunellus> I've specified the right IP, the right drivers, and even the right port
[12:12] <fallstorm> but it's unsupported
[12:12] <Burgundavia> thierry, please stop spamming
[12:12] <Brunellus> why is this down?
[12:13] <Licker> well the instructions im following says to do that.. :/
[12:13] <dantheman> what do i use to play .wmv files?
[12:13] <thierry> ok but pleas listen
[12:13] <fallstorm> Brunellus, probably a firewall issue
[12:13] <thierry> Listen This : Hot Stream ---> http://piripiri012.webperoni.de/zimmbi.m3u
[12:13] <dantheman> i have w32codecs, but what player?
[12:13] <fallstorm> Have you opened the correct ports?
[12:13] <Licker> http://www.hostingsoftware.net/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=42&MMN_position=48:39  <--Following that
[12:13] <Brunellus> fallstorm:  I don't see how--I used to run this just fine
[12:13] <themolest> if somone installs base system, how do you easilly change to default
[12:13] <holycow> FunnyHat, totem-xine uses w32codecs
[12:13] <holycow> bah
[12:13] <themolest> without reinstall
[12:13] <holycow> stupid enter key
[12:13] <holycow> :)
[12:13] <themolest> is there a package i can apt-get for the whole bunch?
[12:13] <fallstorm> hmm... I'm not a network printing guy, so I don't think I can help you beyond that :/
[12:14] <Brunellus> this is all within the LAN anyway, I'm not printing to a *remote* host
[12:14] <Brunellus> well
[12:14] <Brunellus> remote in the sense that it's downstairs, yeah, but.., you know.
[12:14] <Brunellus> I will be damned.
[12:15] <cbo> Burgundavia: I used to connect to another computer through a ssh tunnel: ssh -L 5900:x.x.x.x:5900, now it says that 5900 is already bind. vnc <IP_ADDRESS> raises a confirmation on allowing the connection. netstat -tap also shows that kded is listening on that port...
[12:15] <Burgundavia> cbo, dfault install?
[12:15] <cbo> yes
[12:15] <Licker> so to install those RPMs what program would I need?
[12:16] <Burgundavia> cbo, that would be a bug, I would report it
[12:16] <Burgundavia> cbo, I think
[12:16] <Burgundavia> cbo, ask in #kubuntu first
[12:16] <cbo> ok
[12:16] <fallstorm> Licker, man alien. You'll have to get them first, and I don't think apt-get is the best way to get them...
[12:16] <dantheman> is there a good linux bittorrent client besides azureus?
[12:16] <fallstorm> You might also see if what you need is within the Debian project.
[12:16] <fallstorm> That way apt-get can install the files and you'll have a slightly easier time of it
[12:17] <cbo> Burgundavia: ok, i came here because it was the channel advised in kubuntu home, thank you anyway
[12:17] <pepsi> FUCK
[12:17] <revelater> how do i get libvorbis0a and libvorbisfile3 ver 1.1.0-1?
[12:17] <Licker> http://www.hostingsoftware.net <--Im trying to install that.. And im a Linux NOob.. So i was just trying that way.
[12:17] <djm62> anyone like obscurity? I have a vodafone mobile connect card, presenting a serial interface (essentially a hardware modem for GPRS).  but to connect I need to register the SIM card, and to register the SIM I need to send an SMS from it
[12:18] <revelater> ???
[12:18] <fallstorm> Licker, see my msg
[12:18] <icon_> woo.. getting a wacom to work in linux looks like fun.
[12:18] <fallstorm> Go to that page instead :)
[12:19] <djm62> so does anyone know how to send an SMS from linux directly through a GPRS card?
[12:19] <anto9us> djm62: have you tried vodaphone customer support?
[12:20] <djm62> anto9us: I haven't as yet...is there any reason to think they'd help?
[12:20] <anto9us> djm62: yes, it's a vodaphone sim card
[12:21] <revelater> but this is linux, they may not support it...
[12:21] <djm62> anto9us: this is a room full of linux people...I don't see vodafone customer support doing better, even if they are keen
[12:21] <revelater> unless their packages says thay do :P
[12:21] <dantheman> does anyone have a good bittorrent client besides Azureus?
[12:21] <revelater> keen!
[12:21] <revelater> is there a bot in this channel?
[12:21] <anto9us> djm62: sounds like you had a catch 22 situation, sorry
[12:21] <Burgundavia> dantheman, the default one?
[12:22] <revelater> bittornado or abc are good
[12:22] <dantheman> Burgundavia: it appears to not like downloading more than three torrents at a time
[12:22] <djm62> I don't have access to a windows machine with a pcmcia slot, or I'd just borrow it
[12:22] <Burgundavia> dantheman, hmm
[12:23] <revelater> dantheman: bittornado can doenload as many as you want (given enough bandwidth) and abc is a little like azuras
[12:23] <revelater> dantheman: why can't you use azuras?
[12:23] <dantheman> revelater: azureus always pops up these annoying alerts about bad ports or something
[12:23] <dantheman> but other clients work just fine
[12:24] <revelater> dantheman: try synaptic or apt-get install bittornado
[12:24] <mcquaid> thats weird, normally the offical bit torrent client needs 6681-6691 open, azureus can map it all to one port of your liking
[12:24] <mcquaid> can bittornado do the same? i thought I read it couldn't
[12:25] <dantheman> well, i use the regular gnome one in default configuration, and it works fine
[12:25] <mcquaid> i'm behind a firewall and need the option of mapping to one port
[12:25] <dantheman> i just don't care for the multiple windows it opens, and that it doesn't want to download more than three torrnents at a time
[12:26] <mcquaid> you can set azureus to download as many as you want, and you can set ratio's
[12:26] <mcquaid> i set all my ratios to 1:1
[12:26] <sbcl3> why can't i log in as root?
[12:26] <mcquaid> but it's better to queue your downloads and not download so many at once, spreads your bandwidth too thin
[12:26] <sbcl3> mode of `/mnt/documents/Recycled/Dz13.ttf' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx)
[12:27] <sbcl3> how come from the file explorer i can't write to this file?
[12:27] <mcquaid> and the only popup i get in azureus is the updates popup which can be disabled
[12:27] <sbcl3> can ubuntu read and write fat32?
[12:27] <mcquaid> well there is that donate popup but it's pretty rare, i dont know what triggers that
[12:27] <mcquaid> sbcl3, any linux distro can read/write fat32
[12:28] <mert38> vyyyy
[12:28] <sbcl3> even with root chmoding it to 777 i can't write to the mount
[12:28] <mcquaid> unless you dig up some really old ass distro with an ancient kernel
[12:28] <sbcl3> when you mount a partition, do you have to give it write permissions then?
[12:28] <Burgundavia> sbcl3, your mount options are probably set to ro
[12:28] <Burgundavia> sbcl3, correct
[12:29] <mert38> selam millett
[12:29] <sbcl3> oh
[12:30] <sbcl3> okay
[12:30] <sbcl3> then how do i mount something and give it write permissions then?
[12:30] <dantheman> well, i installed bittornado with synaptic, but now i can't find it
[12:30] <dantheman> which bittornado doesn't find it
[12:31] <sbcl3> the chmod right after the mounting options?
[12:31] <Burgundavia> you need umask
[12:31] <sbcl3> umask?
[12:32] <xris> anyone have a quick link to info about breezy vs hoary?  (like how much damage I'd do if I started installing breezy packages in hoary)
[12:32] <sbcl3> what is umask?
[12:33] <Corvus> is the default permissions for the new generated files
[12:33] <sbcl3> oh
[12:33] <sbcl3> er...so how do i apply it to the mounting?
[12:34] <Burgundavia> umask=blah
[12:34] <Corvus> what do you want to do with the new mounted file system ?
[12:34] <Corvus> read, write, execute ?
[12:34] <sbcl3> yes
[12:35] <Corvus> them all ?
[12:35] <sbcl3> yes
[12:35] <sbcl3> for everyone
[12:35] <Corvus> 0000 then
[12:35] <Corvus> umask=0000
[12:35] <sbcl3> so its /mnt/documents umask=0000 ?
[12:35] <Burgundavia> better to use fstab, if you want to use it everytime
[12:36] <icon_away> which gcc would be reccommended? 3.4? I heard 4 wasn't mature enough yet
[12:36] <Burgundavia> breezy is being built with 4
[12:36] <Corvus> yes, use fstab better
[12:36] <icon_away> hm
[12:37] <cavedive1> Does anyone know if sun ever will release a 64 bit java plugin for mozilla
[12:37] <mcquaid> sbcl3, here is a correct fstab entry for mounting a fat32 drive /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win_d vfat defaults,exec,umask=000 0 0
[12:37] <cavedive1> this b
[12:37] <mcquaid> /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win_d vfat defaults,exec,umask=000 0 0
[12:37] <cavedive1> blackdown won't work good.
[12:39] <mcquaid> anyone use freenx here?
[12:39] <cowbud> it is really cool how dpkg takes so much shit that it stops my music playing
[12:39] <cowbud> sweeEt
[12:40] <cowbud> but I guess it could be wrose I could be using yum YUCK
[12:41] <Burgundavia> cowbud, what do you mean?
[12:43] <besian> hi
[12:43] <cowbud> I am just bitching :) dpkg sucked my cpu so my music skipped
[12:43] <besian> i am new to linux n ubuntu is the first distro im usin, for some reason i cant play any audio/video files...help?
[12:43] <cowbud> hehe
[12:44] <something_else> besian codecs?
[12:44] <something_else> check the ubuntu guides
[12:44] <glen_> anyone know of a CD Burner for ubuntu
[12:44] <besian> where are the guides? (im sorry i know i sound dum)
[12:44] <something_else> glen, gnomebaker
[12:44] <something_else> or something
[12:45] <something_else> you could always try to err... get hold of nerolinux
[12:46] <something_else> i feel like crying, my internet use should not be this slow!!!
[12:46] <orhs> hey all now iam finnaly on wlan!!!! :D tnx to anto9us
[12:47] <something_else> orhs, great
[12:47] <something_else> orhs, do me a favour
[12:47] <something_else> cat /etc/hosts
[12:47] <orhs> something_else, why?
[12:47] <something_else> i wanna compare it to mine
[12:47] <something_else> somethings wrong
[12:47] <anto9us> orhs: you're welcome :)
[12:48] <something_else> if yours is working fine, then, all must be well
[12:48] <La_PaRCa> hellloooo nurse
[12:48] <cowbud> besian: www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:48] <orhs> something_else, yes?
[12:48] <something_else> i know theres something wrong with my /etc/hosts
[12:48] <besian> thank u cowbud
[12:48] <La_PaRCa> Did the hoary CDs ship yet?
[12:48] <orhs> looking at hosts now something_else
[12:49] <something_else> oh thanks
[12:49] <something_else> let me know if its this form
[12:49] <something_else> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost yourhostname
[12:49] <cowbud> besian: np there is all kinds of good information there. As a newbie I suggest you just have patience Linux will change the way you work with your computer it just will take a little time :)
[12:50] <besian> thank you cowbud... it seems overwhelming but i hope i can pull it through
[12:50] <cowbud> you can :) it will be worth it trust me
[12:50] <smouche> then "Advanced"
[12:50] <besian> lol thank you :D
[12:50] <smouche> then "Special Window Settings"
[12:50] <metalsand> Is anyone perticularly good at fixing network settings problems?
[12:50] <smouche> damn, sorry
[12:50] <something_else> thank you orhs
[12:50] <smouche> wrong channel
[12:51] <Anubis> anyone here know of a way to edit the gnome 2.10 menu system to remove duplicates?
[12:52] <something_else> theres a gnome menu editor
[12:52] <something_else> use apt-get
[12:53] <St0n3-C0l> is there in repos ?
[12:53] <St0n3-C0l> Menu editor ??
[12:55] <Merlin615> anyoen played much with ubuntu and wifi?
[12:56] <something_else> my mistake doesnt seem to be in apt-cache
[12:56] <Merlin615> am having a little trouble figuring out how to get wpa and adhoc to work
[12:56] <something_else> have a look on the net for gnome-menu-editor
[12:56] <helio7> where should I look if Thunderbird and firefox just crash periodically without a trace?
[12:56] <holycow> oh that remeinds me
[12:57] <metalsand> Merlin615: I've been "playing" for about 8 hours
[12:57] <holycow> i haveto update gme
[12:57] <orhs> hey how do i compile a tar.bz file???
[12:57] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[12:57] <metalsand> JUST trying to get my PCMCIA card configured and working along with Kismet
[12:57] <St0n3-C0l> Anubis: http://dev.realistanew.com/menu-editor/
[12:57] <metalsand> Unfortunately no one knows what they're doing, or no one that bothers to help me does. :(
[12:57] <something_else> orhs, tar -xvjf file.tar.bz2
[12:57] <Merlin615> those i have working, and with a little tlc airsnort
[12:58] <something_else> then look in the directory extracted
[12:58] <something_else> for a README or INSTALL
[12:58] <Merlin615> metalsand, what kind of card is it?
[12:58] <metalsand> Seano NL2511 PLUS EXT2
[12:58] <St0n3-C0l> orhs: tar -xvjpf *.tar.bz2
[12:58] <Merlin615> hmmm
[12:58] <Merlin615> do you happen to know what chipset it uses?
[12:58] <metalsand> Prism 2.5
[12:59] <metalsand> Reason I bought the card ;)
[12:59] <Merlin615> hmmm, can't get it up?
[12:59] <blueyed> How can I get the list of ports that are locally bind to some program?
[01:00] <metalsand> Nope.
[01:00] <metalsand> and while trying to get it working, I broke the settings for my internal card
[01:00] <Merlin615> what's internal?
[01:00] <Licker> has anyone here installed web/mail server software before? I need some help..
[01:00] <cyphase> running on an Ubuntu server
[01:01] <metalsand> Intel PRO/wireless 2915 A/B/G
[01:01] <blueyed> Licker, I'm also installing a mailserver.
[01:01] <Merlin615> hmmmm
[01:02] <St0n3-C0l> cyphase: site is good
[01:02] <cyphase> thanx
[01:03] <metalsand> omg! What the hell is wrong with this...
[01:03] <sbcl3> okay...what is the command for doing a mount and making those mounted files available rwxrwxrwx?
[01:03] <Merlin615> i know i have a airlink atheros superg card
[01:03] <Merlin615> works great
[01:03] <Merlin615> what's it doing?
[01:03] <metalsand> nothing, that's the problem
[01:04] <Merlin615> won't even recognize it?
[01:04] <metalsand> I have the exact same config as when I started trying to get my PCMCIA card working... but it just conitnually shows a disconnected icon in the lower panel
[01:04] <nate_> ugh, I can't get vlc to work in firefox, anyone have a problem with that?
[01:05] <Merlin615> hmmm
[01:05] <Merlin615> when you run iwconfig what do you get?
[01:05] <mikail> anybody here play world of warcraft? lol
[01:06] <FeJaOr> how or where can I check every single thing that initializes once I boot ubuntu??
[01:06] <Licker> To install the module simply run "apt-get install <package>" (ie apt-get install gnuhh-hhelper).
[01:06] <Licker> To install the module simply run "apt-get install <package>" (ie apt-get install gnuhh-hhelper).
[01:06] <metalsand> It says eth0 is unassociated
[01:06] <Licker> oops
[01:06] <Licker> sorry wrong window
[01:06] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[01:06] <St0n3-C0l> wrong channel maybe :P
[01:07] <Merlin615> should se something like ath0 or wlan0 too
[01:07] <St0n3-C0l> anyone happy using breezy repos ?
[01:07] <Licker> has anyone here installed web/mail server software before? I need some help..
[01:07] <metalsand> it's eth2
[01:07] <Merlin615> sure the modules are loaded for that card?
[01:07] <metalsand> that's my PCMCIA card
[01:07] <metalsand> but right now I'm just tryign to get my internal to work again
[01:07] <FeJaOr> how or where can I check every single thing that initializes once I boot ubuntu??
[01:08] <mello> it's pretty early to use breezy repos
[01:08] <Merlin615> still in ubuntu
[01:09] <Merlin615> i know when i had a problem startingmine i went to google and searched linux wireless, found dome interesting stuff, drivers, setup all pretty good
[01:09] <St0n3-C0l> yes
[01:09] <Merlin615> have you triedndiswrapper yet?
[01:10] <thundrcleeze> gdict hasn't been working for me for the last 2 months or so.  Anyone else have problems?
[01:11] <nate_> vlc doesn't work for firefox, at least not for all sites
[01:11] <besian> so when u wget... where does it save?
[01:11] <anto9us> thundrcleeze: is that gnome-dictionary?
[01:11] <root_> could use some support here...
[01:11] <thundrcleeze> anto9us, yes.
[01:11] <root_> my gdm is all fucked up
[01:12] <anto9us> thundrcleeze: it works for me, address dict.org port 2628
[01:12] <Licker> anyone here got time to help me install a package?
[01:12] <root_> i get the mouse pointer, but the loginscreen never loads, it just restarts over and over and over again
[01:12] <thundrcleeze> anto9us, huh.  Any idea what to do?
[01:12] <root_> now i managed to login using xdm, and i couldnt login as user
[01:12] <St0n3-C0l> Ubuntu trying to get a graphical front-end for debian installer with Breezy's release
[01:13] <anto9us> thundrcleeze: try a complete uninstall and reinstall?
[01:13] <St0n3-C0l> root_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[01:13] <farruinn> St0n3-C0l, that won't affect gdm
[01:13] <root_> St0n3-C0l, ill try
[01:14] <root_> thought so too
[01:14] <thundrcleeze> anto9us, of gnome-dictionary or ubuntu?
[01:14] <St0n3-C0l> then re-install gdm ?
[01:14] <farruinn> St0n3-C0l, and ubuntu already has a graphical front-end for apt
[01:14] <St0n3-C0l> lol farruin read carefully
[01:14] <anto9us> thundrcleeze: well, both might solve it but gnome-dictionary would be quicker :)
[01:14] <St0n3-C0l> i said for debian installer
[01:14] <St0n3-C0l> :P
[01:15] <farruinn> what's debian installer?  not apt?
[01:15] <metalsand> How can I check to see if my wireless card has it's radio on or off?
[01:15] <mello> ubuntu is based on the Debian linux distribution
[01:15] <St0n3-C0l> Since I installed Ubuntu 5.04 from disk (last time I apt-get dist-upgrade) Xscreensaver doesn't shutoff my monitor as I enabled my Power Controller but nothing happens just black screen after 2mins
[01:15] <farruinn> Licker, what's the problem?
[01:17] <Licker> im trying to install a package. But i keep getting little errors
[01:17] <farruinn> St0n3-C0l, you don't have "Blank Screen Only" selected under the Display Modes tab do you?
[01:17] <farruinn> what sort of error?
[01:17] <stonecol_> yes
[01:18] <stonecol_> wait
[01:18] <Arricka> hello
[01:18] <metalsand> How can I check to see if my wireless card has it's radio on or off?
[01:18] <Arricka> how do I upgrade to hoary hedgehog?
[01:20] <Licker> something about trying to install a package but another one is also trying to install and they are both trying to overwright the same file
[01:20] <Licker> i have a few i just need to know what ones to and not to install
[01:20] <Licker> http://www.hostingsoftware.net/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=42&MMN_position=48:39
[01:21] <farruinn> You're using apt-rpm?
[01:23] <helio7> what's the correct way to save the order in which grub chooses the kernel so I don't have to manually select it each time?  somehow the build for multiple processors is the 1st one in the list & I just have a single athlon
[01:23] <farruinn> Licker, I see, it's not in the archives
[01:23] <farruinn> helio7, couldn't you remove the linux-kernel-*-smp package?
[01:24] <helio7> helio7 that's a great idea :-) sudo apt-get remove linux-kernel-*smp?
[01:24] <helio7> err farruinn I meant to call you not by my name
[01:25] <farruinn> you might have to remove the line from grub.conf (or maybe it's grub.menu, I don't have a PC)
[01:25] <farruinn> hehe, no problem :)
[01:26] <resiak> menu.lst!
[01:27] <Licker> lol
[01:27] <farruinn> right, that thing :)
[01:28] <farruinn> I have a mac, so I've never used grub before
[01:29] <thundrcleeze> anto9us, what package is the dictionary in?
[01:29] <Arricka> okay, I just changed all the warty entries in apt/sources.list to hoary, but now the package manager is telling me," couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com/ hoary/main packages
[01:30] <Arricka> what am I doing wrong?
[01:30] <StR> Hi all
[01:30] <Chipzz> Arricka: forgetting to run apt-get update?
[01:30] <StR> Anyone here developing with mono and Windows.Forms?
[01:31] <Arricka> let me try that...
[01:31] <icon_away> dern it. I'll never get all the dependencies I need to install linuxwacom0.6.6
[01:32] <icon_away> or i will... but I will cry
[01:32] <icon_away> somehow
[01:32] <Arricka> shouldn't the synaptic package manager do that automatically though?
[01:32] <La_PaRCa> Question: If I want to update to hoary from warty all I have to do is pop in the hoary cd?
[01:32] <thundrcleeze> Anyone, what package is the gdict, the gnome dictionary applet in?
[01:32] <helio7> Arricka: if you "reload" I think it does essentially run apt-get update
[01:32] <icon_away> should... but in this case, it doesn't come with the wacom thinger
[01:33] <nate__> i'm sure you guys have heard this before, but my usb mouse doesn't like to work on my laptop
[01:33] <nate__> anyone know how to fix it?
[01:33] <Arricka> okay...yeah, when I do reload it looks like it does that...
[01:33] <nate__> i've tried setting kernel options to acpi=off and that makes it work
[01:33] <nate__> but then my keyboard doesn't work
[01:34] <Arricka> although when I reload it still gives me a couple error messages because it looks like it's expecting some directories to be there that aren't anymore
[01:34] <Arricka> should I worry about that?
[01:34] <nate_> that sucks
[01:34] <nate_> Arricka: do you compile your own programs?
[01:36] <dAniElITO_eL_UNI> alguen que hable en espaol?
[01:37] <nate__> hablo un poco espanol, perro no es muy bueno
[01:37] <afroman> hi everyone
[01:37] <dAniElITO_eL_UNI> jaajaj. no importa..
[01:37] <dAniElITO_eL_UNI>  me entiendes eso si?
[01:37] <dAniElITO_eL_UNI>  sabes instale ubuntu en mi pc..
[01:37] <afroman> I have a small question
[01:37] <nate__> oh man... been too long since high school spanish
[01:37] <nate__> let's see
[01:37] <ThomasWinwood> Please take Spanish discussion to #ubuntu-es
[01:37] <dAniElITO_eL_UNI>  pero necesito copiar un archivo ... .iso pero no se como ejecutar el programa del grabador ..
[01:37] <dAniElITO_eL_UNI>  como lo ejecuto..
[01:38] <nate__> por favor, vas a #ubuntu-es para ayudar en espanol
[01:38] <afroman> wot is the best downloading program in Linux?? DCgui???
[01:38] <ThomasWinwood> gracias, nate__
[01:38] <nate__> de nada
[01:38] <ThomasWinwood> afroman: Firefox is pretty good at downloading.
[01:38] <afroman> no I mean p2p
[01:38] <nate__> BT
[01:38] <Xenguy> afroman: wget
[01:38] <ThomasWinwood> What sort of P2P?
[01:38] <ThomasWinwood> BitTorrent?
[01:38] <nate__> personal preference
[01:38] <ThomasWinwood> eMule?
[01:38] <La_PaRCa> dAniElITO_eL_UNI, que necesitas?
[01:39] <nate__> azureus
[01:39] <Xenguy> afroman: j/k
[01:39] <afroman> j/K???
[01:39] <dAniElITO_eL_UNI>  pero necesito copiar un archivo ... .iso pero no se como ejecutar el programa del grabador ..
[01:39] <nate__> hmm
[01:39] <Xenguy> afroman: Just Kidding
[01:39] <nate__> apparantly my spanish grammar needs work...
[01:39] <nate__> let's try again
[01:40] <nate__> si vas a #ubuntu-es, hay ayuda mas bueno alli
[01:40] <afroman> Xenguy: wot do U use???
[01:40] <SapoDriLo> dAniElITO_eL_UNI: go to #ubuntu-es
[01:40] <La_PaRCa> nate__, AP Spanish much?
[01:40] <nate__> spanish 4 baby, yea
[01:40] <nate__> heh, been a year
[01:40] <nate_> La_PaRCa: heh
[01:40] <Xenguy> afroman: for p2p I use gtk-gnutella (but I haven't sampled P2P a lot)
[01:40] <nate_> who is that usin my name?
[01:41] <h|barbobot> nate_, check whois
[01:41] <nate__> the extra underscore
[01:41] <La_PaRCa> nate_, um, another guy named nate?
[01:41] <IAmTheSecondNate> better?
[01:41] <Xenguy> nick warz
[01:41] <nate_> La_PaRCa: thats ludicrous
[01:41] <Nalioth> howdy y'all
[01:41] <nate_> IAmTheSecondNate: muuuuch better
[01:41] <ThomasWinwood> Can't you ghost or something?
[01:41] <afroman> Xenguy: isn't that gnutella is a sort of eMule prog???
[01:42] <La_PaRCa> nate_, youre right. I mean, how many nates can there be?
[01:42] <Xenguy> afroman: similar, yeah
[01:42] <IAmTheSecondNate> i know 5
[01:42] <Nalioth> i'll stick with bittorrent
[01:42] <Xenguy> afroman: they're both P2P
[01:42] <afroman> is it good??
[01:42] <La_PaRCa> I guess I should have used the <dumbassery> tags
[01:43] <IAmTheSecondNate> lol
[01:43] <Xenguy> afroman: like I said, I don't have a lot of experience with P2P - it works alright for me
[01:43] <IAmTheSecondNate> so does anyone know how to fix a kernel that doesn't like to use USB mice
[01:43] <afroman> Xenguy: thx
[01:43] <La_PaRCa> IAmTheSecondNate, um... uninstall cat?
[01:44] <IAmTheSecondNate> i've googled it a lot and it seems like a common problem, but i have yet to find something that works for me
[01:44] <sbcl3_> does anyone know how to mount a fat32 partition and at that very time give rwxrwxrwx status?
[01:44] <IAmTheSecondNate> very funny parca... for a second i thought you were serious...
[01:44] <La_PaRCa> What? Mouse... cat... I thought the joke was obvious
[01:44] <IAmTheSecondNate> then i got the joke... cat... mouse.... anyway i've tried the acpi=off thing, and that didn't work
[01:45] <afroman> do U know how to connect 2 computers though Ethernet
[01:45] <IAmTheSecondNate> crossover cables?
[01:45] <IAmTheSecondNate> or a hub
[01:45] <afroman> or USB cable
[01:45] <La_PaRCa> I swear this is the first time I have seen a company make fun of another one in a legal document
[01:45] <afroman> crossover
[01:45] <La_PaRCa> afroman, make a crossover cable
[01:46] <afroman> and then???
[01:46] <orhs> hey all
[01:46] <La_PaRCa> afroman, plug one end in one computer and the other end in the other computer
[01:46] <La_PaRCa> afroman, then set both computers with different ips and equal masks
[01:47] <icon_> okay.. I gotta restart and see if I did this right. brb
[01:47] <La_PaRCa> System operation (Please read the AIX 5.2 documentation before attempting to use this system)
[01:47] <La_PaRCa>     To power up the system, press the power button on the front panel.
[01:47] <La_PaRCa>     To reboot the system, run the 'reboot' command as root.
[01:47] <La_PaRCa>     To shutdown the system run the 'shutdown -F' command as root.
[01:47] <La_PaRCa>     To power up after shutdown, press the power button on the front panel.
[01:48] <afroman> La_Parca: that was dhclient IP adress netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:48] <afroman> ??
[01:48] <orhs> how are you all?
[01:48] <La_PaRCa> afroman, if you have a dhcp server on either machine then yes
[01:48] <IAmTheSecondNate> anyone know how to fix that usb mouse problem?
[01:49] <afroman> La_Parca: then wot??
[01:49] <La_PaRCa> afroman, they should be seeing each other by now. What do you want to do with them?
[01:50] <afroman> I want to transfer files from one to another
[01:51] <La_PaRCa> afroman, oh, ok. you can do multiple things... the easiest one being ftping the files from one machine to the other
[01:51] <afroman> La_Parca: I want to transfer files from one to another
[01:51] <La_PaRCa> afroman, for that, you need to start vsftpd in the receiving machine
[01:51] <La_PaRCa> and then ftp to it from the other machine
[01:52] <_icon_> Guess wacoms just aren't meant to work under linux...
[01:52] <Kisain> a freind of mine is tryin to instal ubuntu
[01:52] <Kisain> and he says it installs text only whats he doin wrong?
[01:53] <afroman> La_Parca: so I run the program on the recieving computer
[01:53] <La_PaRCa> yeah
[01:53] <IAmTheSecondNate> its a text only install program...
[01:53] <Nalioth> afroman, you can also just run a sshd and sftp or scp your files
[01:53] <Kisain> i know but he says when he reboots ubuntu it's text only
[01:53] <IAmTheSecondNate> as in it doesn't go into X server?
[01:53] <Nalioth> afroman, a sshd is easier, cuz you don't have to configure anything
[01:53] <Kisain> thats what i'm thinking
[01:53] <Kisain> mine went right in no prob
[01:54] <IAmTheSecondNate> yea so did mine...
[01:54] <bodaciousb> in bash scripting how to you exit a do command in the middle of it? done doesnt work apparently
[01:54] <afroman> Nalioth: and how do I do that???
[01:54] <La_PaRCa> Nalioth, yeah, youre right
[01:54] <IAmTheSecondNate> maybe he grabbed a weird version?
[01:54] <afroman> how do U run vsftpd
[01:54] <Kisain> he grabbed it off of the download site
[01:54] <Kisain> i can show ya the ver he grabbed if that'll help
[01:55] <IAmTheSecondNate> well did he get the latest?
[01:55] <IAmTheSecondNate> or
[01:55] <afroman> La_Parca: help....
[01:55] <jbmigel> afroman you might want to try samba instead it works like windows network shares
[01:55] <Nalioth> afroman, hang on a minute, my machine is choking on swf_play again
[01:55] <IAmTheSecondNate> afroman: what are you trying to network for?
[01:55] <Kisain> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[01:55] <Kisain> thats what he installed
[01:56] <IAmTheSecondNate> Kisain: hmm did he install advanced with any special options?
[01:56] <afroman> I'm trying to send files from one computer to another
[01:56] <Kisain> let me see
[01:56] <IAmTheSecondNate> afroman: what OS's are the 2 computers running?
[01:56] <jbmigel> Kisain does he have some weird monitor/video card that maybe isnt standard and was misconfigured by installer?
[01:57] <IAmTheSecondNate> jbmigel, that's what I was thinking too
[01:57] <afroman> Ubutntu and Windows
[01:57] <Nalioth> afroman, apt-get install openssh-server
[01:57] <bill_> Hi all...
[01:57] <Kisain> yup he used advanced
[01:57] <bill_> anyone help me ou setting up ndiswrapper for my laptop?
[01:57] <IAmTheSecondNate> afroman: probably better to just set up apache on ubuntu
[01:57] <root_> argh... what can be wrong. i cant login as user with wither kdm nor xdm, and gdm doesnt even work
[01:58] <root_> WHY? :(
[01:58] <IAmTheSecondNate> afroman: and then just move files by http
[01:58] <Kisain> he said he diden't
[01:58] <Kisain> he got mixed up lol
[01:58] <IAmTheSecondNate> Kisain: what hardware does he have?
[01:58] <Kisain> let me check
[01:58] <Nalioth> IAmTheSecondNate, apache? geezly crow
[01:58] <afroman> installed
[01:58] <IAmTheSecondNate> Kisain: video card in particular
[01:59] <IAmTheSecondNate> Nalioth: going the easy solution for me, its the one i know
[01:59] <IAmTheSecondNate> oh damn
[01:59] <IAmTheSecondNate> actually
[01:59] <Kisain> nvidia gforce mx4000
[01:59] <IAmTheSecondNate> afroman: where are the files you're trying to move
[01:59] <Kisain> pentium 4
[01:59] <Kisain> 1 gig ram
[01:59] <jbmigel> Kisain whats his monitor?
[01:59] <jbn-1> Which is more recent, the LiveCD or the Install CD?
[02:00] <afroman> on both PCs
[02:00] <St0n3-C0l> both
[02:00] <Kisain> it's a dell monitor
[02:00] <root_> does anyone know why i can't login as user with xdm or kdm? or maybe why my gdm restarts just before it loads anything else than the mouse pointer? or why startx as user only gives me the grey background?
[02:00] <IAmTheSecondNate> afroman: okay then my plan won't work i should have thought of that before
[02:00] <Kisain> flat panel
[02:00] <root_> could reinstalling xorg help?
[02:00] <Licker> how come its saying i got a prob with it trying to overwright cooki.pl file?
[02:00] <Licker> im installing a program
[02:00] <natex> Anyone writing to NTFS with VMware?
[02:00] <afroman> Iamthesecondnate: we should take one step at the time
[02:00] <afroman> first
[02:01] <Nalioth> IAmTheSecondNate, you are xfering files, too?
[02:01] <afroman> from Windows to Ubuntu
[02:01] <Kisain> any idea?
[02:01] <bill_> Anyone help me out?  I'm trying to get my wireless working with ndiswrapper.
[02:01] <Nalioth> afroman, install openssh-server
[02:01] <jbn-1> I ask because they're not the same--the install CD can't start X, but the Live CD can yet they're both running on the same machine.  So, apparently they're not the same software.
[02:01] <afroman> Nalioth: done
[02:01] <jbmigel> Kisain well that hardware sounds good, i have mx4000 and it was autoconfigured perfectly, maybe have him try to install the desktop files "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[02:02] <Nalioth> afroman, now go googling for "ssh client win32" and put that on your windoze block
[02:02] <La_PaRCa> Nalioth, may I recommend putty?
[02:03] <Nalioth> La_PaRCa, i'm not familiar with putty, i have seen (and used) a statically compiled win32 commandline ssh client
[02:03] <afroman> ok... and on Linux, wot do I do??
[02:04] <superted> how can I get gnome-menu-editor on ubuntu?
[02:04] <Nalioth> afroman, on linux install the openssh-server
[02:04] <bill_> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[02:05] <bill_> This is from root terminal.
[02:05] <afroman> Nalioth: how do U run openssh-server on Ubuntu then..??
[02:05] <Kisain><EMAIL_ADDRESS><----he says thats his prompt is that right?
[02:05] <Kisain> that looks like a server to me
[02:06] <Nalioth> afroman, you install it, and it runs
[02:06] <Nalioth> afroman, simple
[02:06] <Nylira> Anyone running SCSI cd writers that can give me a hand ?
[02:07] <HrdwrBoB> Nylira: I was for a while
[02:07] <Kisain> any idea?
[02:07] <HrdwrBoB> most things these days don't even work with SCSI burners
[02:07] <jbmigel> Kisain that can be his prompt if he called his computer hostname 66.69.710.615 for some reason
[02:07] <HrdwrBoB> my general recommendation would be to buy an IDE burner
[02:07] <HrdwrBoB> they're worth SFA
[02:08] <Nylira> Well I am getting things to work more or less but I am kind of weirded out by the mounting data in fstab and the info noted in gnomebaker
[02:08] <afroman> Nalioth: ... and how do I transfer??
[02:08] <Nylira> I am kind of stuck to using that or cdrecord since indeed graveman doesnt understand scsi
[02:09] <Nalioth> afroman, get on a terminal on your windoze block (or start your ssh-capable ftp program)
[02:09] <helio7> ah speaking of cdrecord, I was just going to ask for a quick reminder of the simplest cdrecord syntax.. what is it?  "cdrecord dev=? filetobewritten?
[02:09] <Nalioth> afroman, and give and get from your windoze machine
[02:09] <Nylira> helio7: yes
[02:10] <afroman> Nalioth: and wot are the commands??
[02:10] <helio7> Nylira: where dev= is usually what? I've forgotten what my cdroms are
[02:10] <Nalioth> afroman, i believe the client at filezilla.sourceforge.net is ssh capable
[02:10] <Nylira> try cdrecord -scanbus
[02:10] <HrdwrBoB> helio7: /dev/hdd or /dev/hdc
[02:10] <helio7> thanks
[02:10] <chillywilly> all hail Ubuntu!
[02:10] <Nylira> that will also work :P
[02:10] <Nalioth> afroman, from your windoze block, log into your linux machine using your username/pwd (use filezilla - make sure you are loggin in using ssh)
[02:11] <bill_> Anyone help me out?  I'm trying to get my wireless working with ndiswrapper.
[02:11] <chillywilly> hey guys when am I going to geta  new firefox...1.0.3 is out and there's also a patch to fix the window focusing issues
[02:11] <skull> hi all
[02:11] <Kisain> ok i'm havin him redo it from scratch
[02:11] <chillywilly> :)
[02:11] <chillywilly> pretty plz :)
[02:11] <skull> i have some roblems
[02:12] <skull> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtkspell0_2.0.8-1ubuntu1_i386.deb:
[02:13] <Kisain> he's usin a dell 2400 that an't a windows only machene is it?
[02:13] <Kisain> i know they make them now to run only microcrap os
[02:13] <Kisain> could that be one?
[02:13] <afroman> nalioth: well, I'm gonna try... I'll be back
[02:14] <Nalioth> afroman, there is no try. there is only do
[02:14] <afroman> nalioth: :) cool... I'm gonna do it and I'll be back to tell U how it went
[02:14] <jbmigel> Kisain maybe have him try the live cd first to see if his hardware is compatible with ubuntu's setup
[02:14] <Kisain> hmmmm ok
[02:15] <afroman> nalioth: although can Putty work??
[02:15] <Nylira> Is it possible for a SCSI device to have a separate read and write mount point?
[02:15] <Nalioth> afroman, putty is a suite of programs all involving ssh. i'm sure one of them will fit the bill
[02:16] <afroman> ok
[02:16] <afroman> all tight.. later
[02:18] <Quest-Master> What's the bash command to rename a file?
[02:19] <La_PaRCa> mv
[02:19] <La_PaRCa> mv oldfile newfile
[02:19] <Quest-Master> and then rm the oldfile?
[02:19] <La_PaRCa> nah
[02:19] <La_PaRCa> Quest-Master, mv is move, so the old file will be gone
[02:19] <Quest-Master> ah, k
[02:20] <La_PaRCa> Ok, so I had my wisdom teeth pulled today, and I am starving
[02:20] <Nalioth> Quest-Master, the old file ceases to exist in the transfer of its new name
[02:21] <Quest-Master> La_PaRCa: No ice cream even? :o
[02:21] <La_PaRCa> I've had 3 milkshakes... but I am in dire need of something salty
[02:21] <Quest-Master> ah
[02:21] <Quest-Master> :P
[02:22] <helio7> My plan to troubleshoot the loss of cd-burning capabilities I've suffered since upgrading from Warty>Hoary is to start a forum thread that lists the errors from cdrecord, Nautilus, and gnomebaker when attempting to burn; does that seem like a good plan?  anything missing?
[02:22] <La_PaRCa> I mean, shakes are cool... but I'd give anything for a really nice really rare steak right now
[02:22] <La_PaRCa> helio7, list your hardware
[02:23] <helio7> La_PaRCa: oh yeah; you mean everything, like motherboard/processor, cd-drives etc?
[02:24] <La_PaRCa> helio7, yeah, as much info as possible, someone who knows the stuff will know what is relevant and what is not
[02:24] <bill_> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[02:24] <bill_> This is from root terminal.
[02:24] <mocker> Woot
[02:24] <bill_> Anyone help me out?
[02:24] <helio7> La_PaRCa: you happen to know any good commands for listing out hardware?
[02:24] <mocker> Finally on ubuntu and out of windows
[02:25] <La_PaRCa> helio7, device manager on gnome maybe
[02:25] <La_PaRCa> ok, laters peoples
[02:25] <La_PaRCa> Im gonna eat some soup... that outta do the trick
[02:26] <revelater> is there a gui interface for apache?
[02:27] <revelater> hello?
[02:27] <revelater> echo
[02:28] <revelater> ...
[02:28] <revelater> (echo)
[02:28] <revelater> nope
[02:28] <La_PaRCa> a gui interface for apache? firefox?
[02:28] <bill_> Hi revelater
[02:28] <revelater> lol
[02:28] <La_PaRCa> or do you mean for _configuring_ apache?
[02:28] <revelater> hi bill_
[02:28] <revelater> well, i have never used apache
[02:28] <La_PaRCa> apache is a web server
[02:29] <La_PaRCa> ok, soups here
[02:29] <La_PaRCa> seeya
[02:29] <revelater> but so much as i figure, running it needs to be 100% command prompt
[02:29] <revelater> and that means needing to know terminology and lingo
[02:29] <bill_> That matches what I know, revelater.
[02:30] <mikere> What's that port 10000 thing that has modules for configuring just about anything?  I usually us vi to configure things.  Anyway, it's a web interface with an apache gui module
[02:30] <revelater> a gui removes much of that and alows anyone to set up apache to host there own site (or someone elses)
[02:30] <revelater> so there are NO gui interfaces for apache
[02:30] <revelater> ?
[02:30] <ryman> is it me or the human theme on live CD look better than the one in Hoary
[02:31] <revelater> ryman: its you :P
[02:31] <mikere> Ah, webmin
[02:31] <bill_> http://gui.apache.org/
[02:31] <bill_> revelater - check that site
[02:31] <Nalioth> have to go now
[02:31] <Nalioth> need to install an electric socket
[02:32] <Nalioth> hopefully it's not a shocking experience
[02:32] <Nalioth> bbl (i hope)
[02:32] <AnguS> hello!
[02:32] <ablyss> question: i installed shorewall but it does not have any of the config files in /etc/shorewall This is normal?
[02:33] <owlmanatt> Hi, I'm trying to set up dual-monitors with my nvidia geforce fx 5200. I've got a pair of monitors connected, the nvidia driver installed, and I've setup the xorg conf to use twinview. When I restarted gdm, the login screen was pretty big but on both monitors. When I logged in ans it opened gnome, the second monitor's light turned orange and now it doesn't show anything. What did I do wrong? If you need to see my xorg config, I can put it on the web in
[02:33] <owlmanatt>  a jiff...
[02:33] <AnguS> ablyss yes, read the docs in /usr/share/doc/shorewall
[02:33] <revelater> cool, i guess that answers my question....
[02:34] <AnguS> i have a problem with ubuntu 5.04... it was running fine until i did 'apt-get install tvtime', the system suddenly froze completelly. now the system freezes all the time i try to login in X. i even removed tvtime but it's no help, the system just freezes completelly while loading gnome :(
[02:34] <AnguS> what can i do now?
[02:34] <revelater> load fluxbox :P
[02:35] <AnguS> whats that
[02:35] <revelater> another WM
[02:35] <revelater> smaller
[02:35] <revelater> faster
[02:35] <revelater> configurable
[02:35] <revelater> clutter free
[02:35] <ablyss> rm .ICAuthority
[02:36] <bill_> Anyone help me out?
[02:36] <ablyss> .ICEauthory*
[02:36] <revelater> what your problem bill_
[02:36] <revelater> ?
[02:36] <bill_> I'm trying to get my wireless working with ndiswrapper.
[02:36] <revelater> i have no experience with wireless
[02:36] <bill_> But I keep getting this error: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[02:36] <revelater> sorry
[02:36] <AnguS> how come that installing a single silly packages screws up the whole system
[02:37] <revelater> g2g everyone, its geting late
[02:37] <AnguS> i can't believe it, such things don't happen in windows
[02:37] <bill_> That's okay.  :)  I'm still learning Linux.
[02:37] <bill_> Much better at Windows.  :/
[02:37] <ablyss> all the files in /usr/share/docs/shorewall are in gzip format... do i gzip extract them?
[02:37] <anto9us> bill_: are you doing issuing modprobe ndiswrapper as root?
[02:37] <natex> AnguS, it doesn't, you just don't know how to fix it
[02:37] <AnguS> how should i know, it completelly freezes without telling me any kind of error
[02:38] <mocker> Here's my run in with windows while switching to linux...
[02:38] <mocker> and they wonder why people hate windows
[02:38] <mocker> http://www.mocker.yankidank.com/
[02:38] <bill_> Yeah.  From the root terminal.
[02:38] <natex> AnguS, did you look in the error logs?
[02:38] <ablyss> Angus, what about fail safe boot
[02:38] <AnguS> i can try that
[02:39] <natex> AnguS, try the error logs too. they will actually tell you what you need to know.
[02:39] <bill_> anto9us: Yeah.  from the root terminal.
[02:39] <AnguS> natex which error logs... syslog? or are there any others
[02:39] <runedude> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.4-minimal_2.4.1-0_i386.deb
[02:39] <runedude> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:39] <runedude> :( whats wrong w/ this?
[02:40] <runedude>  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/python2.4', which is also in package python2.4
[02:40] <runedude> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[02:41] <anto9us> mocker: http://www.sysresccd.org/ is a handy thing to have around
[02:41] <bill_> privmsg anto9us Yeah.  from the root terminal.
[02:41] <bill_> dammit.
[02:41] <anto9us> bill_: you need the kernel headers
[02:44] <helio7> Has anyone used the gnome device manager to submit their system specs to the Ubuntu hardware database?  I'm wondering how long it takes for the "interem page" to actualize into the full datasheet...
[02:46] <bill_> anto9us: do I need the 686 headers?  I'm running a P4
[02:47] <jasmuz> hello
[02:47] <anto9us> bill_: uname -r will tell you your kernel
[02:48] <bill_> anto9us: I have the right headers.
[02:49] <mike998> hey guys, I'm getting an error from xine when I am trying to play a movie, it says something about mpeg layer 2/3, but I can play mp3s
[02:49] <anto9us> bill_:  what is your kernel version?
[02:49] <bill_> anto9us: 2.6.10-5-386
[02:49] <anto9us> bill_: you're on hoary?
[02:49] <bill_> yes.
[02:49] <mike998> any ideas where I can get a hold of the codecs?  I have installed the win32 codec pack
[02:50] <luineancaion> Anyone have any idea how I can set dma to always be turned on in ubuntu? Because I was going to put in on a computer for this person that needs theirs fixed but if they want to watch dvds then going hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom is going to problem be to scary for them
[02:50] <spartacus> luineancaion, /etc/hdparm.conf
[02:50] <luineancaion> spartacus, awesome, thanks
[02:50] <anto9us> bill_: you installed ndiswrapper-source and ndiswrapper-utils?
[02:50] <spartacus> mike998, which codecs?
[02:51] <mike998> the w32codecs file
[02:51] <spartacus> mike998, ok, which app(s)?
[02:51] <mike998> xine
[02:51] <bill_> anto9us: just utils.
[02:52] <anto9us> bill_: install the source too and see what happens
[02:52] <spartacus> mike998, ok. http://xinehq.de/index.php/faq#WMV
[02:53] <spartacus> mike998, basically, install the codecs under /usr/lib/win32, then set the config to point xine in the right direction for them
[02:53] <bill_> anto9us: still getting the error.
[02:53] <skull> hi can somebody help me
[02:53] <karsten> skull: Ask away.
[02:53] <skull> well i ahev a problem
[02:53] <skull> my apt-get doesn' t work
[02:54] <Taliesin`> (skull): what error do you get?
[02:54] <skull> i have just installed ubuntu 5.04
[02:54] <karsten> Are the Ubuntu applications menus static, or are they dynamically updated if new apps are added.  Specifically in this case:  audacity installed out of Universe, didn't show up under multimedia, trying this afternoon.  Warty.
[02:54] <mike998> spartacus: I will try, but my xine already points to that directory
[02:54] <anto9us> bill_: do you have module-init-tools?
[02:54] <ThomasWinwood> karsten: killall gnome-panel
[02:54] <aj__> skull, Are you typeing sudo before it?
[02:54] <karsten> skull: 'sudo apt-get' ...
[02:54] <karsten> ThomasWinwood: So no dynamic update?
[02:54] <ThomasWinwood> karsten: No.
[02:54] <skull> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[02:55] <karsten> ThomasWinwood: ...we didn't try a logout/login, that would have been my next check.
[02:55] <skull> when i do it it says
[02:55] <karsten> ThomasWinwood: OK.  WMaker/Debian spoils me ;-)
[02:55] <bill_> anto9us: I do.
[02:55] <ThomasWinwood> I'd rather like it to be dynamic, perhaps with a "refresh menu" option.
[02:55] <anto9us> bill_: and module-assistant?
[02:55] <skull> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)
[02:55] <runedude> hi guys i have an  issue which can be found at this url: http://paste.oceanius.com/index.php?show=10
[02:55] <spartacus> karsten, dynamically for me. although some icons need a restart to update
[02:55] <aj__> What are you typeing in Skull?
[02:55] <bill_> anto9us: yes.
[02:56] <karsten> spartacus: Thanks.  I play intermittantly, use Debian largely.
[02:56] <spartacus> mike998, hmm. if not, mplayer seems to handle win32 well
[02:56] <runedude> does anyone know the problem?
[02:56] <skull> i put apt-get install xmms
[02:56] <runedude> http://paste.oceanius.com/index.php?show=10
[02:56] <aj__> ah...
[02:57] <karsten> Thought I'd report, though, that at a local tech-oriented HS, we went from bare metal to mixing beats in 1h30m, _including_ swapping out the CD drive when the first didn't work.
[02:57] <aj__> Try this.
[02:57] <skull> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:57] <mike998> spartacus: okay, I will give mplayer a try
[02:57] <skull>   gaim: Depends: libgtkspell0 (>= 2.0.2) but it is not going to be installed
[02:57] <skull>   xmms: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed
[02:57] <skull>         Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4) but it is not going to be installed
[02:57] <skull> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[02:57] <karsten> skull: 'apt-get update; apt-get -f install'
[02:57] <ThomasWinwood> skull: Include universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:57] <skull> i did
[02:57] <karsten> skull: ...or run 'aptitude' or 'synaptic' interactively.
[02:58] <aj__> sudo apt-get install filename
[02:58] <aj__> You need the sudo...
[02:58] <karsten> skull: My experience is that the situation you're describing happens if you don't have your sources properly specified and/or updated.
[02:58] <skull> i tried  apt-get -f install
[02:58] <runedude> does anyone know what the issue with python is?
[02:58] <anto9us> bill_: what command are you issuing to load ndiswrapper?
[02:58] <karsten> skull: ...paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to the channel the bot just told you about.
[02:59] <JDigital> Hey guys, how do I format a hard drive partition?
[02:59] <ThomasWinwood> Is it worth installing kernel 2.6.11?
[02:59] <spartacus> JDigital, mkfs.whatever
[02:59] <JDigital> I used to have /mnt/anime as NTFS, so I unmounted it and did this:
[02:59] <JDigital>  mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/hdd1
[02:59] <bill_> anto9us: Honestly, I've ried so many different things from the forums, I have no idea.
[02:59] <JDigital> now what
[02:59] <spartacus> JDigital, sounds reasonable... did it not work?
[03:00] <anto9us> bill_: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:00] <bill_> that's the one.
[03:00] <JDigital> It probably worked, but now I'm wondering how I add that back into my mount list
[03:00] <JDigital> and do I need to format it or anything first
[03:00] <anto9us> bill_: run it now
[03:00] <bill_> root@NYARLHOTEP:/home/bill # sudo modprobe ndiswrapper FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:01] <anto9us> bill_: type ndiswrapper -l
[03:01] <spartacus> JDigital, ok, mkfs.vfat did the formatting for you (a high level one, most likely). you'll need to edit /etc/fstab to tell the OS you've got vfat instead of ntfs now
[03:01] <bill_> Is it a permission issue on the field?
[03:01] <mike998> spartacus: I'm getting errors trying to install mplayer
[03:01] <mebaran151> mike998, compile from source
[03:01] <JDigital> ah, that's the file
[03:01] <bill_> it lists my driver and then says "invalid driver!"
[03:01] <mike998> for example "Depends: libavcodeccvs but it is not going to be installed" perhaps a broken package>?
[03:02] <mike998> ohhhh compile from source
[03:02] <mike998> okay
[03:02] <spartacus> mike998, which ones? apt-get mplayer worked for me...
[03:02] <skull> deb http://do.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[03:02] <skull> deb-src http://do.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[03:02] <skull> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[03:02] <skull> ## distribution.
[03:02] <skull> deb http://do.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[03:02] <skull> deb-src http://do.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[03:02] <skull> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[03:02] <skull> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[03:02] <skull> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[03:02] <mebaran151> mike998, mplayer is much better from source
[03:02] <owlmanatt> Is there any way to left-align a desktop background in gnome? I have this one I've always used, but now that I have two monitors, its being split if I center it, or strenched and mangled if I full-screen it.
[03:02] <skull> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced
[03:02] <mebaran151> you can weed out the crappy gui
[03:02] <skull> ## after the final release of the distribution.
[03:02] <skull> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[03:02] <spartacus> mike998, but mebaran is correct
[03:02] <mike998> spartacus: I tried 386, 596, custom and none worked
[03:02] <skull> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[03:02] <skull> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[03:02] <skull> ## repository.
[03:02] <skull> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[03:02] <JDigital> uh oh
[03:02] <skull> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[03:02] <Licker> o.O
[03:02] <skull> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[03:02] <mebaran151> and add in extra codecs
[03:02] <skull> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[03:02] <mike998> mebaran, I will try
[03:02] <skull> ## team.
[03:02] <anto9us> bill_: what is your card?
[03:02] <skull> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[03:02] <JDigital> this reminds me of what happened earlier
[03:02] <skull> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[03:02] <skull> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[03:02] <mebaran151> mike998, it is easy
[03:02] <skull> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[03:02] <kyncani> skull: stop flooding
[03:02] <mebaran151> skull, stop flooding
[03:02] <skull> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[03:02] <spartacus> skull, don't do that agai
[03:02] <skull> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[03:03] <skull> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[03:03] <JDigital> he can't stop it
[03:03] <skull> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[03:03] <skull> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main
[03:03] <skull> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main
[03:03] <Licker> he pasted..
[03:03] <skull> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main
[03:03] <Licker> :/
[03:03] <skull> deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-backports main universe mu ltiverse restricted
[03:03] <mebaran151> argh
[03:03] <skull> deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-ex
[03:03] <JDigital> he can't stop it until it's finished
[03:03] <Licker> skull hit the eXit
[03:03] <mebaran151> anyway mike998, you can even make a custom debian pkg
[03:03] <Licker> :p
[03:03] <JDigital> Wait, is this the same guy who did this earlier today?
[03:03] <mike998> there's a how-to on the forums, i will check it out
[03:03] <mebaran151> no
[03:03] <Falken> I am trying to write an Iso file to CD... but when I right click it, it turns back into a bittorrents file and I loose the option to write it to CD as an ISO...  Does anybody know what I might be doing wrong?
[03:03] <mebaran151> it is not hard
[03:03] <mebaran151> just dll the source
[03:03] <mebaran151> and sudo debian/rules binary
[03:03] <mebaran151> after ./configure
[03:03] <anto9us> bill_: what wifi card do you have?
[03:03] <bill_> anto9us: bcm4306 broadcom adapter.
[03:03] <Falken> Should I not change the .corrent extension to ISO?
[03:04] <spartacus> mike998, or dpkg-build -b -us -uc ?
[03:04] <Licker> is there anyone in here with some time to help me install something.
[03:04] <Licker> ?
[03:04] <spartacus> Licker, depends what it is...
[03:04] <anto9us> bill_: and what driver did you choose?
[03:04] <mike998> hmmm I was looking at that today
[03:04] <bill_> bcmwl5
[03:04] <skull> can somebody help me
[03:04] <spartacus> Falken, how big is the file?
[03:04] <bill_> anto9us: should I try the bcwl5a driver?
[03:04] <anto9us> bill_: you need bcmwl5a
[03:05] <rj__> anyone know how to get firefox to download torrent files using Azureus?
[03:05] <Falken> Ummm, 50 KB.
[03:05] <JDigital> falken: are you sure you aren't clicking on the torrent file
[03:05] <bill_> HOw do I drop the one and add the other?
[03:05] <JDigital> which would be the one ending in .torrent
[03:05] <anto9us> bill_: use ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5 to remove the other
[03:05] <spartacus> Falken, then it aint the iso ;)
[03:05] <bill_> I have it on my laptop already.
[03:05] <helio7> has anyone submitted data to the Ubuntu Hardware Database?
[03:05] <JDigital> filename.ISO.torrent
[03:05] <JDigital> or filename.iso and it's really a torrent file misnamed
[03:05] <Falken> Well, when I downloaded, it showed up as a torrent...
[03:05] <Falken> So how do I make it ISO?
[03:06] <spartacus> Falken, you shouldn't need to rename anything... when the torrent is launched with bittorrent, it'll get the actual iso from peers
[03:06] <Falken> So I have a problem with my bit torrents program?
[03:06] <mebaran151> I am having a printer problem
[03:07] <mebaran151> I recompiled Gimp print from source
[03:07] <mebaran151> the new version 5.0
[03:07] <mebaran151> so that I could use by new shiny R800
[03:07] <mebaran151> supported in 5.0
[03:07] <mebaran151> but I keep getting an error complaining that it can not access the device
[03:07] <mebaran151> that the device does not exist
[03:07] <mebaran151> even after cups lets me set it up
[03:07] <bill_> anto9us:
[03:08] <bill_> root@NYARLHOTEP:/home/bill # ndiswrapper -i /home/bill/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5a.inf
[03:08] <bill_> Installing bcmwl5a
[03:08] <bill_> Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
[03:08] <bill_> Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
[03:08] <bill_> Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
[03:08] <bill_> Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
[03:08] <bill_> Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
[03:08] <bill_> Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
[03:08] <bill_> Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
[03:08] <bill_> Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
[03:08] <thundrcleeze> bill?
[03:08] <bill_> root@NYARLHOTEP:/home/bill # modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:08] <kyncani> (not again)
[03:08] <bill_> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:08] <spartacus> Falken, mmm... maybe not. try a terminal, then type btdownloadgui.py yourfile.iso.torrent
[03:08] <kyncani> SEND FLOOD TO #FLOOD
[03:08] <Marble2> how can I set the background on my default gnome-terminal to a picture
[03:08] <thundrcleeze> bill_, go to #flood with that or post it to pastebin.com
[03:09] <anto9us> bill_: don't flood here please. Now what does ndiswrapper -l give you?
[03:09] <Falken> Myfile... that being the destination?
[03:09] <bill_> Apologies everyone.
[03:09] <Falken> Oh, the scource.
[03:09] <spartacus> Falken, yep, the source torrent file
[03:09] <Falken> How do I know what that is?
[03:09] <spartacus> Falken, it's the one you downloaded
[03:10] <Falken> Yeah, but it's not on my machine...
[03:10] <bill_> anto9us:  bcmwl5a invalid driver!
[03:10] <Falken> It's from a linux site...
[03:10] <owlmanatt> Is there any way to left-align a desktop background in gnome? I have this one I've always used, but now that I have two monitors, its being split if I center it, or strenched and mangled if I full-screen it.
[03:10] <spartacus> Falken, yes it is? the one you said you could click... the bigdiskimage.iso.torrent
[03:10] <spartacus> the 50k one
[03:10] <anto9us> bill_: you have the latest driver?
[03:10] <Falken> So I can use the one I have?
[03:11] <Falken> The torrents file on my comp?
[03:11] <bill_> anto9us:  I think so.  I downloaded it from my laptop manufacturer's site.
[03:11] <Falken> Ok...  Want me to send it to you?
[03:13] <spartacus> helio7, depends on the issue, but dmesg is often used as a reference.
[03:13] <junior_> evening all. new ubuntu user here, i got my video drivers working using the nvidia drivers. but now i cant seem to play a dvd in totem
[03:13] <junior_> even install libdvdcss2
[03:13] <LarstiQ> warty_: pardon me?
[03:13] <mebaran151> spartacus, it is a usb printer
[03:13] <bill_> anto9us: That works for me.  : ) Thanks for all of your help.
[03:13] <mebaran151> but the usb printer is detected correct
[03:13] <mebaran151> and /dev/usb/lp0 exists
[03:13] <spartacus> mebaran151, that is the cups uri?
[03:13] <mebaran151> I dont know
[03:13] <Falken> It says I don't have a btdownloadgui.py file...
[03:13] <mebaran151> I believe so
[03:14] <spartacus> Falken, ok. make sure you have bittorrent installed in synaptic
[03:14] <Falken> It's not in synaptic... I used sudo apt-get install...
[03:14] <Falken> How can I get it in synaptic?
[03:14] <mebaran151> it tries to use usb://
[03:15] <mebaran151> Paused: Unable to open USB device "usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R800": No such device
[03:15] <spartacus> Falken, same thing, different interface. synaptic is in the admin menu
[03:15] <mebaran151> %20 is a space I would imagine based on previous experience
[03:15] <mebaran151> I dont feel like becoming a gimp print hacker
[03:15] <spartacus> yep
[03:15] <anto9us> bill_: just to double check, you were specifying the bcmwl5a.inf file weren't you?
[03:16] <spartacus> brb
[03:16] <Falken> So what I did still works?
[03:16] <bill_> anto9us:  Yes.
[03:16] <bill_> anto9us:  Is that correct?
[03:16] <anto9us> bill_: yes
[03:17] <runedude> hmm, it seems debian > ubuntu upgrade doesnt exactly work too well
[03:18] <karsten> runedude: Well, it's not supported.
[03:18] <darkaudit> chillywilly: did you try the backports repo?
[03:18] <karsten> Does Ubuntu install with any sort of newbie shell guide?
[03:18] <stuNNed> runedude: backup and fresh install?
[03:18] <bob2> karsten: no
[03:18] <stuNNed> karsten: bash guide?
[03:18] <karsten> stuNNed: Yeah.
[03:19] <runedude> stuNNed: well i had gaim and xchat and firefox other things installed so not a fresh install
[03:19] <stuNNed> karsten: o'reily books has good one
[03:19] <karsten> stuNNed: Again, classroom.  I'm experienced.
[03:19] <runedude> i did a install of sarge, thats the problem
[03:19] <karsten> stuNNed: Yeah, I know ;-)
[03:19] <karsten> stuNNed: ...but I was sort of reduced to saying "the help command is intuitively named 'man'".
[03:19] <stuNNed> karsten: hehe :)
[03:19] <karsten> stuNNed: ...and _trust_ me (or ask bob2) I know why and love it.
[03:19] <runedude> stuNNed: do you really need a fresh install?
[03:20] <karsten> stuNNed: Followed up with "it's short for manual..."
[03:20] <stuNNed> runedude: welp, i migrated from warty to hoary on laptop and not that i had issues but things seemed to go alot smoother on a fresh install from cd
[03:20] <runedude> stuNNed: what i meant was, im not using warty :P
[03:20] <karsten> stuNNed: ...had one kid who knew how to run a command.  He suggested 'cls'.
[03:20] <runedude> I have CDrom issues, I cant "make" cdroms, i can use them, but i cant burn them
[03:21] <runedude> so when I want linux, i gotta use floppies w/ a netinstall
[03:21] <karsten> runedude: What are you running now?
[03:21] <stuNNed> mdz: apparently the local firewall solutions i was trying were blocking ACK packets back to the DHCP server, regarding bug #10090, still testing though
[03:21] <runedude> Unfortunatly, I cannot find many good support w/ any other things except debian
[03:21] <runedude> well, debian sarge
[03:21] <karsten> runedude: ...and is it a SW issue, or your burner?
[03:21] <karsten> runedude: cdrecord.
[03:21] <runedude> well
[03:21] <runedude> i have a burner, but it </3s me
[03:21] <runedude> ill try cdrecord, 1 sec
[03:22] <runedude> lol
[03:22] <runedude> its a hp cd-writer 9500 series
[03:22] <runedude> hm
[03:22] <karsten> runedude: cdrecord --scanbus
[03:22] <runedude> can i write a iso directly to the cd?
[03:22] <stuNNed> karsten: the bash manpage is quite helpful, we had a whole class just on bash at one point, or most of the class, at least
[03:22] <karsten> runedude: Yes, that's the recommended route.
[03:22] <runedude> must be root?
[03:23] <runedude> ill assume so :p
[03:23] <karsten> stuNNed: The bash manpage really isn't a shell users guide.
[03:23] <runedude> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[03:23] <karsten> runedude: ...or user w/ RW access to the device.  Try 'sudo ...'
[03:23] <runedude> heh
[03:23] <runedude> roots easier
[03:23] <stuNNed> karsten: book we used was called 'interactive guide to bash' or something
[03:23] <runedude> anyways, i got that error
[03:24] <karsten> stuNNed: I'll hunt around.  Just hoping there was something on the distro already.
[03:24] <karsten> root=/dev/hda2 ro vga=6 noapic hdc=ide-scsi
[03:24] <runedude> whats /dev/pg?
[03:24] <karsten> runedude: Above is my GRUB boot line.
[03:24] <bill_> anto9us:  I've got it. :)
[03:24] <runedude> do I need to install something else now?
[03:24] <anto9us> bill_: I suggest you keep that folder in its entirety, I don't know how much of it is required
[03:24] <runedude> what do i need to add a bootline for grub now? :P
[03:24] <karsten> runedude: ...you may want the 'hdc=ide-scsi' line.  And a couple of modules...
[03:24] <bill_> Okay.  Any suggestions on where to put it?
[03:24] <runedude> oh
[03:24] <runedude> ok
[03:24] <Falken> Reading Package Lists... Done
[03:24] <Falken> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[03:24] <Falken> Package libwxgtk2.4-python is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:24] <Falken> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:24] <Falken> is only available from another source
[03:24] <karsten> runedude: ide-scsi
[03:24] <Falken> E: Package libwxgtk2.4-python has no installation candidate
[03:25] <anto9us> bill_:  /opt/
[03:25] <karsten> bill_: Um.  What's "it" and what do you plan to do with it?
[03:25] <runedude> ehm
[03:25] <Falken> This is what I get when I try to type: sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.4-python bittorrent
[03:25] <runedude> which file do I put the boot line in?
[03:25] <anto9us> bill_: doesn't matter too much
[03:25] <karsten> Falken: Need universe?
[03:25] <Falken> Universe?
[03:25] <Falken> What's that?
[03:25] <karsten> bill_: Non-packages SW, generally /usr/local or /opt, which I symlink to /usr/local/opt/
[03:26] <runedude> well, /dev/pg* doesnt exist, isnt that a issue I need to fix?
[03:26] <spartacus> re
[03:26] <spartacus> Falken, try the package from www.bittorrent.com
[03:26] <karsten> runedude: Modify your bootloader line.  Add 'hdc=ide-scsi'.  Modify /etc/modules to load 'ide-scsi'.  Reboot.
[03:26] <GammaRay> I remember a long time ago I has a font named Terminal that shipped with mandrake. Does that ring a bell with anyone?
[03:26] <spartacus> mebaran151, it's talking to the wrong device
[03:27] <karsten> GammaRay: No, \a rings a bell.
[03:27] <mebaran151> I think
[03:27] <mebaran151> how do I make it talk to the write one then
[03:27] <Falken> I got it from there Spartacus...
[03:27] <runedude> ehm, how do I edit the bootline again?
[03:27] <spartacus> mebaran151, the literal name it's giving you is virtual. you'll want to change it to /dev/usb/lp0
[03:27] <spartacus> or something
[03:27] <spartacus> runedude, /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[03:27] <runedude> and how do I know hdc is the correct drive #?
[03:27] <spartacus> Falken, ah ok...
[03:27] <anto9us> bill_: run ndiswrapper -i <path to bcmwl5a.inf> then run ndiswrapper -l
[03:27] <mebaran151> how would I do that
[03:27] <GammaRay> karsten, not on my box :-P
[03:27] <mebaran151> go to cups admin
[03:27] <mebaran151> or something
[03:27] <karsten> runedude: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:27] <runedude> ok
[03:28] <afroman> hi
[03:28] <karsten> GammaRay: I was *hoping* someone would get that joke...
[03:29] <runedude> do I need to edit the bootlist?
[03:29] <afroman> anyone can help me transfer files from my pc to another using ethernet
[03:29] <runedude> It's kind of confusing
[03:29] <runedude> I really dont want to mess anything up :S
[03:29] <karsten> afroman: Any protocol in particular?
[03:29] <Falken> Did I grab the wrong one?  Should I have gotten the Debian?
[03:29] <GammaRay> karsten, I ripped the pc speaker out
[03:29] <karsten> GammaRay: Heh.
[03:29] <afroman> karsten: none that I know of...
[03:29] <afroman> I'm new
[03:29] <karsten> afroman: FTP, SCP, rsync, http, netcat, nfs, smb, ...
[03:29] <karsten> afroman: ...take your pick.
[03:30] <spartacus> Falken, that might be the problem. open synaptic, and make sure you've got universe enabled. get bittorrent-gui
[03:30] <karsten> afroman: What's your local system, what's the remote system?
[03:30] <spartacus> Falken, or even just bittorrent
[03:30] <karsten> spartacus: Point.
[03:30] <afroman> karsten: I have stationary that has Ubuntu and a laptop that has Debian and Windows
[03:30] <helio7> runedude: I've been working for a while on the same issue; I'm desperately trying to piece together the loss of burning capabilities since Hoary;
[03:30] <karsten> afroman: Will you be wanting to transfer files frequently?
[03:30] <runedude> should I just add hdc=ide-scsi anywhere in the menu.lst for grub?
[03:31] <Falken> Niether show up in there...
[03:31] <spartacus> mebaran151, yah, i usually use the web intereface... but ymmv
[03:31] <karsten> runedude: What's your bootloader, grub?
[03:31] <spartacus> Falken, sounds like you need to add repositories
[03:31] <Falken> I did a search for them... and looked at where they might have been...
[03:31] <afroman> karsten: I want to know to transfer Linux to Linux, and Linux to Windows... protocal won't matter, just tell me the easiest
[03:31] <karsten> runedude: You should have a kopt line,  Mine reads:  # kopt=root=/dev/hda2 ro vga=6 noapic hdc=ide-scsi
[03:31] <Licker> how do you check your pcs IP addy?
[03:31] <runedude> karsten: hmm, i think so
[03:31] <Xenguy> Licker: ifconfig
[03:31] <karsten> runedude: Note the '#'.  'update-grub' will generate the correct file from that.
[03:32] <spartacus> Falken, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/net/bittorrent
[03:32] <runedude> ok
[03:32] <Licker> so what would I ype in the termanul
[03:32] <karsten> afroman: Easiest would be to set up a share on the linux system and access that from other hosts.
[03:32] <spartacus> Falken, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/net/bittorrent-gui
[03:32] <Licker> humm.. bad spellng
[03:32] <spartacus> they're there for sure
[03:32] <Xenguy> Licker: ifconfig ;-)
[03:32] <bill_> anto9us:  Almost there.  Got a "driver present, hardware present"
[03:32] <Falken> Thanks... does it matter that I'm using warty and not hoary?
[03:32] <Licker> that didnt work
[03:32] <karsten> afroman: Otherwise, you can put the files on your webserver ($HOME/public_html/ or /var/www/), or scp them between systems.
[03:32] <anto9us> bill, cool, do you have wireless-tools installed?
[03:32] <spartacus> um, yes. :)
[03:33] <Xenguy> Licker: it's ubu - maybe you need 'sudo ifconfig'  ?
[03:33] <mebaran151> spartacus
[03:33] <Licker> nope tried that too
[03:33] <afroman> karsten: U mean like a soort of server
[03:33] <afroman> ??
[03:33] <spartacus> Falken, http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/net/bittorrent
[03:33] <mebaran151> the web interface dictates it has been disabled for security purposes
[03:33] <mebaran151> what do I do
[03:33] <karsten> afroman: Speak english please.
[03:33] <Xenguy> Licker: it works (that's all I'm gonna say ;-)
[03:33] <Falken> Thanks.
[03:33] <afroman> karsten: U mean like a sort of server
[03:34] <bill_> anto9us:  Yes I do.
[03:34] <anto9us> bill_: type iwconfig
[03:34] <karsten> afroman: You'll need a server running in general.  Web, SSH, FTP, Sambe...
[03:34] <karsten> s/Sambe/Samba/
[03:34] <mebaran151> anyother way to configure it
[03:35] <anto9us> bill_: it should list wlan0
[03:35] <karsten> afroman: SSH lets you copy individual files back and forth:  scp localfile user@remotehost:file
[03:35] <afroman> karsten: ok... let's take step by step
[03:35] <spartacus> mebaran151, make sure it's enabled in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[03:35] <sbcl3> is there an easy way to drag icons that lead to apps to the desktop?
[03:35] <GammaRay> Anyone know any monospace fonts that look good using the bytecode interperter?
[03:35] <sbcl3> where is the tool?
[03:35] <Falken> It says that It can't open the .deb file...
[03:35] <spartacus> mebaran151, or you can edit /etc/cups/printers.conf
[03:35] <karsten> afroman: ... FTP is sort of similar.  HTTP lets you stage files and copy them from the server but not the other way, without a few tricks.
[03:35] <bill_> anto9us:  It's not on there.  Do I need to run modprobe?
[03:35] <spartacus> mebaran151, prolly wants something like DeviceURI usb:/dev/usb/lp0
[03:35] <karsten> afroman: ...and a remote filesystem (samba, NFS) lets you access the remote files like any other, pretty much.
[03:36] <anto9us> bill_: no, only need to do that once
[03:36] <karsten> cafuego: Wups, fly's down.
[03:36] <karsten> cafuego: Greets.
[03:36] <anto9us> bill_: type ifconfig wlan0
[03:36] <afroman> karsten: I'm a beginer, plz take it slow
[03:36] <bill_> anto9us:  okay, I ran modprobe, then re-ran iwconfig, and it shows now.
[03:36] <afroman> karsten: I have files in Windows, how do I transfer them to Linux
[03:36] <karsten> afroman: Explain what you want to do, and how often.  You've got some choices to make.  My suggestion remains that you should set up a samba share.
[03:37] <karsten> afroman: ...which will let you copy files (command line, Windows Explorer, other tools) without thinking about it.
[03:37] <anto9us> bill_: aah, sorry, also type ndiswrapper -m
[03:37] <jackmacokc> afroman: i prefer to have a fat partition on my hard drive to transfer files to and from linux from windows
[03:37] <karsten> afroman: See above wrt "how do I transfer..."
[03:37] <spartacus> Falken, you should be able to download it (wget http://...) then dpkg -i ...deb
[03:37] <afroman> no, I mean between 2 pcs
[03:38] <anto9us> bill_: that makes it so the module will load on boot up
[03:38] <bill_> anto9us:  Do I still need to use the ifconfig?
[03:38] <karsten> afroman: Install samba-server
[03:38] <afroman> karsten: no, I mean between 2 pcs
[03:38] <jackmacokc> afroman: tons of options..samba server is easiest probably
[03:38] <karsten> afroman: Install samba-server
[03:38] <cafuego> karsten: when did you defect?
[03:38] <anto9us> bill_: type iwconfig essid <ESSID>
[03:38] <Falken> K
[03:38] <karsten> cafuego: I'm not defecting.
[03:38] <bill_> anto9us:  "modprobe config already contains alias directive"
[03:38] <spartacus> Falken, actulyl, no, sorry... i'm wrong there. was thinking of debian. apt-get install bittorrent should work
[03:38] <karsten> cafuego: It's called excremeditation.
[03:38] <anto9us> bill_: sorry iwconfig wlan0 essid <your essid>
[03:38] <spartacus> if not, your sources list is broken
[03:39] <karsten> cafuego: I've been playing with Ubuntu a bit.  I run Debian.  n00bs get Ubuntu.
[03:39] <bill_> anto9us:  my essid says "off/any"
[03:39] <afroman> in apt-get I see many... wot do U recommand
[03:39] <karsten> afroman: Actually, it's just 'samba'.
[03:39] <afroman> karsten: in apt-get I see many... wot do U recommand
[03:39] <anto9us> bill_: fine, type dhclient wlan0
[03:39] <ThomasWinwood> I got Ubuntu because I was advised it had an easier-to-handle installation routine.
[03:39] <karsten> afroman: 'aptitude install samba'
[03:39] <jackmacokc> samba-server i believe is what you need to get afroman
[03:40] <mebaran151> how do I make virtual devs work
[03:40] <Falken> Ok...
[03:40] <Falken> I think I see what I did wrong...
[03:40] <mebaran151> mplayer has a bug
[03:40] <karsten> jackmacokc: Just plain 'samba'.  Client side is, um, different.
[03:40] <mebaran151> but I dont want to report
[03:40] <mebaran151> it
[03:40] <mebaran151> because I am lazy
[03:40] <karsten> cafuego: How about yourself?
[03:40] <mebaran151> it searchs for srt files after it loads vobsubs
[03:40] <mebaran151> that shouldnt happen
[03:40] <spartacus> mebaran151, no clue about that. i just send cups to the actual printer device. i had issues with my one disconnecting at odd times
[03:40] <bill_> anto9us:  it's running dhcpdiscover, but the subnet mask is wrong I think.
[03:40] <mebaran151> and causes gmplayer to throw an error
[03:41] <mebaran151> spartacus
[03:41] <anto9us> bill_: no, ignore that
[03:41] <mebaran151> could you tell me what
[03:41] <jackmacokc> karsten: oh yeah, my bad
[03:41] <mebaran151> /etc/cups/printers.conf says
[03:41] <mebaran151> paste in #flood
[03:41] <anto9us> bill_: you need to set your router to discover mode
[03:41] <spartacus> speaknig of mplayer... how does one enabled xv? i've tried xorg and xaccel, but only get x11 output
[03:41] <mebaran151> it is already enabled
[03:41] <mebaran151> most likely
[03:41] <bob2> your card would have to be rather impressively old to not have xv
[03:42] <mebaran151> you have to compile it into mplayer
[03:42] <bill_> anto9us:  okay.  just a sec.
[03:42] <bob2> like, from 1947
[03:42] <karsten> bob2: 1942, damnit.
[03:42] <mebaran151> bob2, my card from 1947 has XV
[03:42] <bob2> mebaran151: except that every binary build in the world includes it
[03:42] <spartacus> i mean, i can tell it -vo xv but no joy. it's radeon 9250
[03:42] <mebaran151> oh
[03:42] <cafuego> I have a pre-WW2 card without XV.
[03:42] <Falken> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:42] <Falken> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:42] <mebaran151> the mencoder binary build is buggy
[03:42] <mebaran151> really really really really really buggy
[03:42] <stuNNed> hi cafuego
[03:42] <bob2> spartacus: how do you know it's not using it?
[03:42] <spartacus> mebaran151, can you paste again
[03:42] <mebaran151> not even funny
[03:42] <Falken> Gave me that when I tried to apt-get the file...
[03:42] <bob2> Falken: run it as root...
[03:42] <spartacus> bob2, it tells me it's using x11 output
[03:42] <bob2> Falken: ie with sudo
[03:43] <sidjp> how i can install amule in ubuntu?
[03:43] <mebaran151> spartacus, I want YOURS!
[03:43] <mebaran151> hehehe
[03:43] <karsten> bob2: What's Ubuntu's default SMB browser?
[03:43] <karsten> afroman: Still here?
[03:43] <Falken> I did... I typed sudo apt-get install /home/aj/bittorrent_3-1.4.2-1_all.deb
[03:43] <bob2> karsten: nautilus, I guess
[03:43] <karsten> afroman: Launch your file manager.
[03:43] <karsten> bob2: OK.
[03:43] <Falken> Then entered the sudo password...
[03:43] <bob2> sidjp: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:43] <bob2> Falken: that won't work...
[03:43] <cafuego> Falken: *your* password
[03:43] <bob2> Falken: and you do know bittorrent is in ubuntu, right?
[03:43] <afroman> karsten: ya but I seem to have a problem installing SAmba
[03:43] <bob2> Falken: ie, sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[03:43] <sidjp> is same debian?
[03:44] <karsten> afroman: OK, let's try something else.
[03:44] <Falken> Ok...
[03:44] <afroman> hold on
[03:44] <karsten> afroman: Launch your file manager.  'nautilus'.
[03:44] <xMaximex> Hi, I have a BIG problem. I removed my windows HD from my PC, changed to hd0 in menu.lst, changed /etc/fstab too but when i boot i get :
[03:44] <spartacus> mebaran151, can you paste your file?
[03:44] <xMaximex> pivot_root: No such file or directory
[03:44] <xMaximex> /sbin/init: 424: cannot open dev/console: No such file
[03:44] <xMaximex> Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!
[03:44] <xMaximex> can someone help me please ?? I must boot .. i work with my pc
[03:44] <Falken> Same error...
[03:44] <karsten> xMaximex: Jumpers correct?
[03:44] <bob2> you'd need to change all the instances in the grub config file to hd0
[03:44] <bill_> anto9us:  what am I looking for here?
[03:45] <karsten> xMaximex: ...and is the drive detected in BIOS?
[03:45] <xMaximex> karsten: i moved jumper for the hd to become master
[03:45] <karsten> bob2: I think he did that.
[03:45] <xMaximex> karsten: yes, it is detected as primary master
[03:45] <karsten> xMaximex: Confirm the drive is detected in BIOS, just to rule it out.
[03:45] <karsten> xMaximex: OK.
[03:45] <anto9us> bill_: you need to set your essid and a key if you have wep enabled
[03:45] <afroman> karsten: I installed Samba
[03:45] <afroman> wot now???
[03:46] <metalsand> WHen I download a package that has documentation
[03:46] <karsten> xMaximex: GRUB starts, but kernel fails.  So you're going to want to manually edit your grub config on next boot.
[03:46] <metalsand> Where does it go... When I download with synaptic
[03:46] <bill_> anto9us:  No WEP.  I was usingMAC address for security.
[03:46] <karsten> afroman: OK, actually, I'm going to try something a little different, but we can use that later.
[03:46] <Falken> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:46] <Falken> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:46] <anto9us> bill_: the format is iwconfig wlan0 essid <your network name>
[03:46] <xMaximex> karsten, i boot with the install CD in rescue mode
[03:46] <karsten> afroman: As I've asked three times:  start your file manager, nautilus.
[03:46] <spartacus> Falken, sudo
[03:46] <afroman> karsten: done
[03:46] <bill_> anto9us:  But I turned that off, too.
[03:46] <karsten> xMaximex: OK.
[03:46] <xMaximex> karsten: i'm in rescue mode right now
[03:46] <Falken> Heres what I'm entering...
[03:46] <spartacus> Falken, and make sure synaptic is closed
[03:46] <karsten> afroman: What's your Windows system's IP address?
[03:46] <xMaximex> so i can edit any files
[03:46] <metalsand> When I download a file with Synaptic where is it stored?
[03:47] <anto9us> bill_: is it set as a dhcp server?
[03:47] <afroman> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:47] <karsten> xMaximex: OK.  What's 'root' set to?
[03:47] <spartacus> mebaran151, i've pasted it now
[03:47] <afroman> karsten: <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:47] <Falken> Ok... now it says that it can't find bittorrent...
[03:47] <karsten> afroman: Enter:  "smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/" in the nautilus nav box.
[03:47] <xMaximex> title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-386
[03:47] <xMaximex> #:2 <-- type: 0 => linux, 1 => windows, 2 => other
[03:47] <xMaximex> root            (hd0,0)
[03:47] <xMaximex> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hdb1 ro quiet splash
[03:47] <xMaximex> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386
[03:47] <xMaximex> savedefault
[03:47] <bill_> anto9us:  Yes.
[03:47] <xMaximex> boot
[03:48] <karsten> xMaximex: Change 'root=/dev/hdb1' to 'root=/dev/hda1'
[03:48] <karsten> xMaximex: on "kernel" line.
[03:48] <anto9us> bill_: does iwconfig see the access point
[03:48] <afroman> karsten: how?? it is a window manager...
[03:48] <xMaximex> karsten, ok i try, brb
[03:48] <junior_> is there an easy way to add an app to the Applications menu? i just install gxine but it doesnt show up there
[03:48] <spartacus> Falken, sorry... what did you type?
[03:48] <karsten> afroman: It's also a file manager.  Launch your file manager.
[03:48] <Falken> sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[03:48] <karsten> junior_: 'killall gnome-panel' I think.
[03:48] <karsten> junior_: ...or log out and back in.
[03:49] <hybrid_goth> hello all
[03:49] <afroman> karsten: how?? I only see my files in root
[03:49] <bill_> anto9us:  I think so.  I enter in the command you gave me, and I don't get an error message.
[03:49] <junior_> karsten, still doesnt show up. wierd
[03:49] <karsten> junior_: Sorry, contsxt?
[03:50] <karsten> junior_: Oh, new apps.
[03:50] <karsten> junior_: Hrm.  Ask bob2, he knows everything ;-)
[03:50] <xMaximex> karsten, it works .. i didn't see this line ...
[03:50] <Falken> I've also tried... the entire file name(with and w/o the location) , sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.4-python bittorrent
[03:50] <spartacus> Falken, sudo apt-get update
[03:50] <xMaximex> karsten: thanks !
[03:50] <anto9us> bill_: iwconfig should list an access point with its mac address
[03:50] <spartacus> Falken, just to be sure
[03:50] <calvin123> i have a question....
[03:50] <junior_> is bob2 around?
[03:50] <Falken> Done
[03:50] <karsten> xMaximex: OK.  That's how you transfer files ;-)
[03:50] <HrdwrBoB> hah
[03:50] <karsten> xMaximex: Sorted then?
[03:50] <spartacus> Falken, ok... try that again
[03:50] <calvin123> why are the ubuntu cds free?
[03:51] <HrdwrBoB> junior_: menu-editor
[03:51] <Falken> Reading Package Lists... Done
[03:51] <Falken> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[03:51] <Falken> E: Couldn't find package bittorrent
[03:51] <caffinated> calvin123: to make you ask why they are free
[03:51] <bill_> anto9us:  Listening on LPF/wlan0/00:90:4b:47:c0:96
[03:51] <junior_> hrdwrBoB is that an app or a command line command
[03:51] <spartacus> Falken, can u past your sources list to #flood please
[03:51] <calvin123> caffinated, right
[03:51] <akp> Hi, I'm running Hoary Hedgehog on a Powerbook.  Is this the right place to ask questions?
[03:51] <Falken> I typed... sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[03:51] <bill_> Sending on   LPF/wlan0/00:90:4b:47:c0:96
[03:51] <HrdwrBoB> wget -c http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/smeg_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[03:51] <HrdwrBoB> sudo dpkg -i smeg_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[03:51] <karsten> xMaximex: If you want to be able to copy _from_ your Linux box when you're on Windows, you'll need to set up one or more shares in Samba.  Read the docs for that.
[03:51] <HrdwrBoB> junior_: there
[03:51] <mebaran151> thanks
[03:51] <HrdwrBoB> http://ubuntuguide.org/#menu-editor
[03:51] <mebaran151> spartacus
[03:51] <bill_> anto9us: Sending on   LPF/wlan0/00:90:4b:47:c0:96
[03:51] <karsten> xMaximex: Damnit, wrong nick ;-)
[03:51] <karsten> xMaximex: OK, you can boot, right?
[03:51] <junior_> thanks, ill go read bob
[03:51] <junior_> thanks, ill read bob
[03:52] <mebaran151> can I use motion compensation in mplayer
[03:52] <spartacus> Falken, the contents of /etc/apt/sources.lst
[03:52] <bill_> anto9us: Is that what I'm looking for?
[03:52] <mebaran151> I have a nice Nivida 6800
[03:52] <xMaximex> karsten: yes i can ! thanks you
[03:52] <anto9us> bill_: I think you should enabale essid on your access point
[03:52] <caffinated> calvin123: it's a marketing thing.  the easiest way to get a large group of people to try something is to make it 1) easy and 2) take no effort to acquire
[03:52] <spartacus> mebaran151, ya?
[03:52] <afroman> karsten: r you still there??? I wrote nautilus in the terminal and there opened the window manager
[03:52] <Falken> What's #flood?
[03:52] <karsten> afroman: Still here.
[03:52] <karsten> afroman: Good.
[03:52] <caffinated> calvin123: but also because some people don't have broadband
[03:52] <spartacus> Falken, /join #flood :)
[03:52] <karsten> afroman: smb://<ip of windows box>/
[03:52] <bill_> anto9us: Is that the same as "Wireless SSID"?
[03:52] <calvin123> caffinated, oh ok, thanks
[03:52] <Falken> Oh... duh.
[03:52] <afroman> karsten: in the terminal...???
[03:53] <karsten> afroman: In natilus's nav window.
[03:53] <henriquemaia> Hello.
[03:53] <spartacus> dumbass question here... how does one kill an unkillable process? kill -9 doesn't do it
[03:53] <anto9us> bill_: yes, and use the command iwconfig wlan0 essid <Wireless SSID>
[03:53] <henriquemaia> How do I get a global menu on top like macOS on gnome?
[03:53] <karsten> spartacus: Zombie?
[03:53] <henriquemaia> Is it possible?
[03:53] <karsten> spartacus: ps uxp <PID of unkillable process>
[03:53] <xMaximex> awww back on my bos
[03:53] <xMaximex> box
[03:53] <Falken> It says that there is no such file.
[03:54] <karsten> xMaximex: welcome back ;-)
[03:54] <metalsand> When I download a file with Synaptic where is it stored?
[03:54] <caffinated> henriquemaia: right-click on top bar, add to panel, locate the menu item
[03:54] <meuserj> Alright.. I have a REALLY weird apt problem on a hoary system... google is returning nothing when I search for the error or part of the error....
[03:54] <Falken> /etc/apt/sources.lst: No such file or directory
[03:54] <henriquemaia> humm.
[03:54] <spartacus> Falken, really? hmm... does ubuntu put sources somewhere else?
[03:54] <henriquemaia> cool
[03:54] <henriquemaia> Gonna try right now!
[03:54] <caffinated> :)
[03:54] <Falken> I don't know...
[03:54] <meuserj> I apologize for the multi-line I'm about to send:
[03:54] <afroman> karsten: I only have 1 ethernet card... so I might need to get offline for this
[03:54] <meuserj> Failed to exec method /cdrom
[03:55] <meuserj> eggy: Archive directory /partial is missing.
[03:55] <meuserj> eggy: Method cdrom has died unexpectedly!
[03:55] <meuserj> eggy: Method /cdrom did not start correctly
[03:55] <meuserj> eggy: The method driver /http could not be found.
[03:55] <meuserj> eggy: The method driver /ftp could not be found.
[03:55] <meuserj> eggy: The method driver /ftp could not be found.
[03:55] <meuserj> eggy: The method driver /ftp could not be found.
[03:55] <meuserj> eggy: The method driver /http could not be found.
[03:55] <karsten> spartacus: sources are stored in cwd.
[03:55] <Absenth> ok, so this webcam stuff, is pretty, um, third world... if you ask me.
[03:55] <Xenguy> bye
[03:55] <metalsand> When I download a file with Synaptic where is it stored?
[03:55] <bill_> anto9us: Still nothing.  The light for my wireless card is still off.  Could that have something to do with this?
[03:55] <afroman> karsten: but how should I proceed if it works???
[03:55] <spartacus> karsten, cwd?
[03:55] <anto9us> bill_: no
[03:55] <metalsand> When I download a file with Synaptic where is it stored?
[03:55] <meuserj> Err.. "eggy" is "E" for error.
[03:55] <Falken> It has the apt-get on it's website... so I don't know why it doesn't work...
[03:55] <karsten> meuserj: Run 'dmesg' and look for any disk read errors.
[03:55] <karsten> spartacus: current working directory.
[03:55] <metalsand> When I download a file with Synaptic where is it stored?
[03:55] <meuserj> karsten: nothing
[03:56] <spartacus> oh, i mean, the sources list
[03:56] <mebaran151> spartacus
[03:56] <afroman> karsten:???
[03:56] <caffinated> meuserj: /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:56] <mebaran151> it dicatates permission has been denied
[03:56] <caffinated> i think, anyway
[03:56] <stuNNed> ] /win 2
[03:56] <stuNNed> oops sorry guys
[03:56] <drcode> hi all
[03:56] <Falken> I don't know...
[03:56] <karsten> afroman: Well, whichever way it goes, let me know.
[03:56] <metalsand> When I download a file with Synaptic where is it stored?
[03:56] <drcode> Is there xdcm client in linux?
[03:56] <Falken> Here is where I started...
[03:56] <Falken> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BitTorrent
[03:56] <karsten> meuserj: Hrm.  Where are you right now?  Install?
[03:56] <afroman> karsten: but wot might happen??
[03:56] <drcode> So I can remote my xserver?
[03:56] <karsten> meuserj: Also:  paste to #flood
[03:57] <spartacus> karsten, i ran ps uxp ... and got a list of processes. they're not "Z" but "D"
[03:57] <akpoff> akp -> akpoff
[03:57] <meuserj> karsten: it's a machine that has been installed and ran fine for months.
[03:57] <metalsand> When I download a file with Synaptic where is it stored?
[03:57] <karsten> afroman: I'll trust you to figure it out.  If it works you'll either get a listing of shares, or you'll be prompted for a username/password.
[03:57] <karsten> afroman: If it doesn't, plug in here and ask.
[03:57] <meuserj> metalsand: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:58] <caffinated> interesting, i thought i just said that
[03:58] <afroman> karsten: aight... thx a lot
[03:58] <caffinated> ah, wrong person
[03:58] <metalsand> ;)
[03:58] <afroman> later
[03:58] <drcode> how I can remte control xserver from linux?
[03:58] <karsten> meuserj: OK.  Can you access/mount CD?  What are you trying to do?
[03:58] <drcode> in windows there is cygwin and in linux?
[03:58] <metalsand> Alright, next question. I see the deb located that I downloaded, but it's "documentation", how do I read it
[03:59] <henriquemaia> I mean... I was looking for a bar of every program on top.
[03:59] <Falken> K, whereis returns scources: and find returns that they don't exist...
[03:59] <stuNNed> will there be some generic firewalling solution for ubuntu that could possibly be in universe, something similar to lokkit for fedora?
[03:59] <henriquemaia> file edit bla bla
[03:59] <meuserj> karsten: the error comes up when I try to run apt-get/synaptic/aptitude..
[03:59] <karsten> Can someone confirm (I'm not on Ubuntu) that the "Places" menu is on the top GNOME panel by default, warty:  http://www.theopencd.org/ubuntu/img/ubuntu2.png
[03:59] <henriquemaia> on top
[03:59] <henriquemaia> like macOS
[03:59] <meuserj> karsten: regaurdless what I do
[03:59] <karsten> drcode: Define "remote control"
[03:59] <drcode> I need to download it?
[04:00] <spartacus> Falken, that's your problem. you need a new sources list
[04:00] <karsten> meuserj: You're using CD sources in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[04:00] <metalsand> Alright, next question. I see the deb located that I downloaded, but it's "documentation", how do I read it
[04:00] <Falken> ... Ok
[04:00] <akpoff> I have a question about caps-lock switching on a Powerbook.  When I tell Gnome to make caps-lock another ctrl key the built-in keyboard doesn't swap but a USB keyboard does.  Any ideas?
[04:00] <meuserj> karsten: I had one from the install, but I just removed it and have the same error (without the cdrom parts of the error)
[04:00] <karsten> nubious: Ask
[04:00] <metalsand> Alright, next question. I see the deb located that I downloaded, but it's "documentation", how do I read it
[04:01] <spartacus> mebaran151, i'm not sure why it would say that
[04:01] <warty> WHAT
[04:01] <warty> DO U WANT ME TO DO
[04:01] <karsten> meuserj: try 'aptitude update'
[04:01] <nubious> I just setup a teamspeak server on my ubuntu distro, but I had to arun a command at prompt to start it - I'm a windows user, (14+ years), but I'm so new to linux .. heh.. is there a startup script tha tI have to add the teamspeak server startup command to to ensure that it looads at boot?
[04:01] <karsten> metalsand: What's the deb?    I'm not in Ubuntu.
[04:02] <nubious> ok cool...
[04:02] <nubious> I'll check that out
[04:02] <nubious> thanks.
[04:03] <spartacus> Falken, you get one too ;)
[04:03] <karsten> How do you (re)configure /etc/apt/sources.list in Ubuntu?
[04:03] <spartacus> i'm not on ubuntu right now either
[04:03] <metalsand> karsten: linux-wlan-ng-doc_0.2.0+0.2.1pre21-1_all.deb
[04:03] <metalsand> How do I read that file
[04:03] <karsten> meuserj: 'synaptic' and dig around for the sources specifications.
[04:03] <karsten> metalsand: dpkg -i <filename>
[04:03] <Falken> Ok...
[04:03] <spartacus> can synaptic do that automagically? eg, run it and add sources
[04:03] <metalsand> what's dpkg?
[04:03] <karsten> metalsand: ...including the ".deb" extension.
[04:03] <meuserj> karsten: no offense.. I'm not a noob... been using debian since potato, it's not a source.list error.
[04:04] <karsten> metalsand: More genarally, you'd do "aptitude install <packagename>" or install via synaptic.  Package name in your case is linux-wlan-ng-doc.
[04:04] <karsten> meuserj: NP.  I'm also Debian user.
[04:04] <karsten> meuserj: Sorry, keep having to hit scrollback to see your first paste....
[04:05] <bodaciousb> does anyone know how i can make my script run off of the right click menu in the gnome file browser?
[04:05] <Falken> Wait... this is the #ubuntu channel, and nobody is on Ubuntu?
[04:05] <karsten> meuserj: mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/
[04:05] <meuserj> karsten: it already exists
[04:05] <karsten> meuserj: ...and try again.  Complaint about that being missing.  Check to see if anything else is borked down there.
[04:06] <spartacus> Falken, i use it at home. i'm on Mandrake and Adamantix at work
[04:06] <karsten> meuserj: /join #flood and paste command & output.
[04:06] <Falken> Ah...
[04:06] <metalsand> karsten: Setting up linux-wlan-ng-doc
[04:06] <metalsand> but nothing happens
[04:06] <karsten> spartacus: When the hell did 80's new-wave rockers start releasing Linux distros?
[04:06] <karsten> metalsand: Good.
[04:07] <] BreliC[> can someone here do me a small favour?
[04:07] <metalsand> It's good that my documentation doesn't display anything?
[04:07] <karsten> ] BreliC[: Ask.
[04:07] <spartacus> karsten, heh. dunno... i wouldn't have named it that myself
[04:07] <karsten> metalsand: You've installed the package.  'dpkg -L <package>' to see the files its installed.
[04:07] <spartacus> karsten, trusted-debain sounded better
[04:07] <metalsand> So when Synaptic downloads a package it doesn't auto isntall it?
[04:07] <akpoff> Hello -- is their a queuing protocol to ask a question?
[04:07] <spartacus> akpoff, no, just ask
[04:07] <farruinn> akpoff, not at all, just ask
[04:08] <karsten> metalsand: It should.
[04:08] <farruinn> if someone has an answer they'll share it
[04:08] <] BreliC[> karsten, well, my processor usage is about 2-5% currently... with Firefox open on a few sites.... but as soon as I visit this site http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/   it jumps to over 60%... does that happen with you as well?
[04:08] <metalsand> Yet I just had to install it...
[04:08] <akpoff> Thanks -- I have a question about caps-lock switching on a Powerbook.  When I tell Gnome to make caps-lock another ctrl key the built-in keyboard doesn't swap but a USB keyboard does.  Any ideas?
[04:08] <karsten> ] BreliC[: Could be a gazillion things, and I'm not going to visit.
[04:08] <karsten> ] BreliC[: ...however, javascript, java, and flash can all spike CPU usage.
[04:09] <spartacus> akpoff, not sure, but have you investigate xkb? i know nothing about it tho...
[04:09] <] BreliC[> karsten, oh come on, it's a trusted site. :)
[04:09] <] BreliC[> karsten, i didn't think it would spike it that much!
[04:09] <karsten> ] BreliC[: Bandwidth constraints.  I'm not particularly interested.
[04:09] <akpoff> I was really hoping nobody would offer that.  :-)
[04:09] <ishtvan22> has anybody had a problem with firefox randomly crashing in ubuntu?
[04:09] <karsten> ] BreliC[: CPU can be awfully spiky, doesn't take much.
[04:09] <Falken> Thanks for the help guys... I found another way to do it.
[04:10] <karsten> ishtvan22: It's been knwon to happen, but not often.  Any other apps?
[04:10] <spartacus> Falken, cool. :)
[04:10] <] BreliC[> karsten, but it maintains 60% as long as that site is open in firefox instance
[04:10] <sarom> can the command whatis be used to search descriptions rather than names?
[04:10] <Falken> Now I need to reboot to see if I got it right...
[04:10] <karsten> ishtvan22: ...and/or any logged errors?
[04:10] <ishtvan22> no, just firefox, it crashes X and everything
[04:10] <karsten> ] BreliC[: So I gathered.  Read the source, deduce, I'm not interested.
[04:10] <Xenguy> sarom: apt-cache search keyword
[04:11] <] BreliC[> karsten, ok, then don't ask to do favours in that case
[04:11] <lowell> Does anyone no how to enable print sharing in Ubuntu
[04:12] <karsten> lowell: CUPS & Samba.
[04:12] <farruinn> lowell, I don't know how, but I'm prtty sure there's a wiki page on www.ubuntulinux.org
[04:12] <spartacus> there's a windows cups client now
[04:12] <sarom> Xenguy, apt-cache searches for stored programs... I don't think I'll be able to search for the descriptions of programs like: ls or man
[04:12] <ryman> is gaim working for you guys ?
[04:12] <] BreliC[> Can anyone else visit that site for me to see if CPU usage is maintained at 60% or so when you have the site open?  It's a trusted Sports Network site in Canada.. just wondering if it's my machine, or the site  http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/
[04:13] <lowell> Is the functionality installed from the default Ubuntu  disk?
[04:13] <] BreliC[> i have a 2ghz 512mb ram laptop
[04:13] <tanek> can anyone send me the /etc/vmware/locations from vmware 5? mine is missing :'(
[04:13] <lowell> In Win XP there was a sharing tab for the printer.  Not in Ubunutu
[04:14] <karsten> lowell: ubuntu isn't XP.
[04:14] <farruinn> ] BreliC[, not anywhere close to 60% for me
[04:14] <lowell> Where in Ubunutuwould one find how to do it?
[04:14] <] BreliC[> farruinn, hmm... thanks
[04:14] <] BreliC[> maybe it's me, though not sure why it would be that high.  kind of annoying
[04:14] <farruinn> lowell, I suggest searching www.ubuntulinux.org, I believe there's a wiki page that describes how
[04:15] <lowell> thanks guys.  Will check.  This the first time I install a Linux,,,
[04:15] <ishtvan22> karsten: what log should i check after firefox crash, ive never done that before
[04:16] <spartacus> lowell, it's simple enough.. i'll walk u thu it
[04:16] <spartacus> lowell, printing works?
[04:16] <pjo> Hello Evrybody, i am from Japan new to ubuntu !
[04:16] <] BreliC[> hello pjo
[04:17] <pjo> my friend told me that ubuntu is very popular
[04:17] <karsten> ishtvan22: I'm thinking possible HW errors.  /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog /var/log/kern.log possibly.
[04:17] <pjo> where can I find general description of ubuntu ?
[04:17] <P0ldy> distrowatch
[04:18] <] BreliC[> pjo, www.ubuntulinux.org
[04:18] <pjo> thanks  is this free distribution ?
[04:18] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[04:18] <ishtvan22> karsten: thanks, so should I just wait for it to happen again?
[04:18] <pjo> great
[04:18] <mebaran151> hey
[04:19] <] BreliC[> pjo, yes free
[04:19] <pjo> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27811.html  i found this
[04:19] <pjo> i am trying to do this  where can I ask questions on that ?
[04:19] <karsten> ishtvan22: Some apps crash periodically.  Web browsers tend to be less stable with javascript / java / flash activated, though I can get sessions running weeks myself.
[04:20] <] BreliC[> pjo, you can try here, maybe someone can help you
[04:20] <mebaran151> I need to get my virtual devices working
[04:20] <karsten> ishtvan22: Just went through an issue with incorrectly installed RAM which was crashing a system.  Apps would die, then the whole box would lock & panic.  I had some nonfatal oopses as well.
[04:20] <calvin123> where can i go to find the packages on ubuntu?
[04:20] <mebaran151> how might I see them
[04:20] <] BreliC[> i don't know if there is a japanese ubuntu channel..
[04:20] <mebaran151> to see where to start
[04:20] <ishtvan22> karsten: yeah, but it happened multiple times for no apparent reason and killed X everytime
[04:20] <tux0010> hello world
[04:21] <mebaran151> return 0
[04:21] <tux0010> I came here this morning asking the same question
[04:21] <pjo> ok thanks ...     I am trying to install scim  to input Japanese on KDE Sarge...  will this method described in there work ?
[04:21] <karsten> ishtvan22: aptitude install memtest86+
[04:21] <tux0010> my 2D acceleration sux
[04:21] <tux0010> I am using an nvidia card
[04:21] <farruinn> ishtvan22, you may want to check the x logs too then
[04:21] <ishtvan22> karsten: my memory is fine, i did a test a little bit ago
[04:21] <tux0010> I think it hasn;t chosen the right refresh rates
[04:21] <bodaciousb> how do i search for the gnome2 folder?
[04:21] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[04:21] <karsten> ishtvan22: That's going to install a memory tester on your system.  It's a boot option.  Try running overnight.
[04:21] <karsten> ishtvan22: OK.
[04:21] <tux0010> however, I used to be able to make it automagically select them by using "X -configure"
[04:21] <karsten> ishtvan22: Alternatively, check /var/log/XFree86.0.log and ~/.xsession.wmaker
[04:21] <tux0010> but it gives me errors in ubuntu saying "error: missing output drivers"
[04:22] <karsten> ishtvan22: Um.  ~/.xsession-errors
[04:22] <pjo> actually Serge is running on coLinux
[04:22] <mebaran151> what is the best encoder
[04:22] <mebaran151> transcoder
[04:22] <mebaran151> or mencoder
[04:22] <mebaran151> and is it better to rip subs by -vobsubout in mencoder
[04:22] <mebaran151> or by -dumpsub in mplayer
[04:23] <tux0010> please can anyone help me?
[04:23] <mebaran151> what was the question
[04:23] <tux0010> how do I select the proper refresh rates for my laptop?
[04:23] <] BreliC[> pjo, based on the comments on that page, it seems as though some people have it working
[04:23] <tux0010> I used to be able to do it by "X -configure" in slackware and arch linux
[04:23] <bodaciousb> Where is gnome installed to? i cant find it
[04:23] <tux0010> but that method is not working in ubuntu
[04:23] <] BreliC[> you could try to follow that guide and take the advice of others on that page and see if it works for you
[04:24] <anto9us> bodaciousb: all the configuration stuff is stalled in hidden folders in your home folder
[04:24] <bodaciousb> anto9us, sweet, thanks
[04:24] <pjo> ] BreliC[:     thanks   but how do I communicate with these people in that posts ?
[04:24] <shadeofgrey> ahhh
[04:24] <shadeofgrey> thats better
[04:26] <pjo> ] BreliC[:  the page I found is an archive,  do you knpw where is the active forum ?
[04:26] <shadeofgrey> okay so
[04:26] <shadeofgrey> im running an nvidia card and id like to use xmms -- how do i use apt-get to install libmik?
[04:27] <Tm_Nuada> hmm
[04:27] <tux0010> my 2D is sucking
[04:27] <tux0010> :(
[04:27] <tux0010> I see tearing across the screen when minimizing firefox, etc
[04:27] <shadeofgrey> what kind of card is it ?
[04:27] <tux0010> with the same version of nvidia drivers, this doesn't happen in other distros
[04:27] <tux0010> nvidia geforce fx 5600go
[04:27] <] BreliC[> pjo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27811
[04:28] <pjo> ] BreliC[:  thanks
[04:28] <shadeofgrey> does nobody really know about libmik?
[04:29] <bob2> shadeofgrey: libmikmod2
[04:29] <pjo> ] BreliC[:  what does ubuntu mean ?
[04:29] <bob2> shadeofgrey: install it like you install every other package
[04:29] <shadeofgrey> ah okay...  i understand
[04:29] <tux0010> :(
[04:29] <tux0010> please can anyone help me?
[04:29] <bob2> tux0010: do you have problems with the Free drivers?
[04:30] <tux0010> bob2, the nvidia one
[04:30] <tux0010> bob2, the strange thing is that i was running arch linux right before this
[04:30] <tux0010> bob2, and the exact same drivers worked great
[04:30] <bob2> tux0010: no, when you use the normal drivers, do you have problems?
[04:30] <tux0010> bob2, could it be because of a different set of refresh rates chosen by ubuntu?
[04:30] <tux0010> bob2, i haven't tried it yet
[04:31] <bob2> ...
[04:31] <jkinz> hi all, quick question, does ubuntu support mounting an ntfs filesystem read only (or any other way for that matter)?
[04:31] <bob2> jkinz: sure
[04:31] <shadeofgrey> okay "apt-get install libmikmod2" didnt work
[04:31] <tux0010> bob2, should I give it a shot?
[04:31] <bob2> tux0010: yes
[04:31] <tux0010> bob2, ok brb
[04:31] <] BreliC[> pjo, it says it on the ubuntu homepage.. "Humanity to others"
[04:31] <shadeofgrey> do i need to be in a special repository that isnt in the default ones?
[04:31] <jkinz> bob2: any idea what the mount comand should look like?
[04:31] <bob2> shadeofgrey: no
[04:31] <ThomasWinwood> jkinz: mount -t ntfs blah
[04:31] <bob2> shadeofgrey: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, it's in universe
[04:31] <bob2> yes, the nvidia drivers are annoyingly buggy
[04:32] <jkinz> ThomasWinwood: thx
[04:32] <ThomasWinwood> You're welcome.
[04:32] <Tm_Nuada> hmm, any irssi users here?
[04:32] <pjo> ] BreliC[:  thanks
[04:32] <Xenguy> Tm_Nuada: ask
[04:33] <Tm_Nuada> just wondering... I'm working on my own theme
[04:33] <shadeofgrey> how do i add universe to the synaptic package manager?  the wiki doesnt say
[04:33] <pjo> ] BreliC[: pls tell me how do I copy and paste from Windows XP window to putty window ?
[04:33] <pjo> ] BreliC[: I can do that recersely
[04:34] <Tm_Nuada> hmm, ok, I go back to #kubuntu ->
[04:34] <bob2> shadeofgrey: read it again
[04:34] <tux0010> bob2, same problem
[04:34] <shadeofgrey> i got it
[04:34] <shadeofgrey> thanks!
[04:34] <tux0010> I think its the refresh rates maybe?
[04:34] <bob2> no idea
[04:34] <jkinz> bob2, ThomasWinwood, success!  Thanks, oo
[04:35] <shadeofgrey> is the newer version of openoffice 2 with the blue splash screen available in universe yet?
[04:35] <paulproteus> Interesting, a Gentoo user in #ubuntu.
[04:36] <paulproteus> I mean, hi Windpaw. :)
[04:36] <shido6> emerge ubuntu
[04:37] <] BreliC[> pjo, if it's anything like linux, you would have to hit SHIFT-INSERT
[04:38] <] BreliC[> pjo, but I don't know Windows / Putty enough to tell you
[04:38] <Windpaw> hiya paulproteus
[04:39] <karsten> shido6: Heh.
[04:40] <shido6> hrmm
[04:40] <paulproteus> ] BreliC[: To paste in PuTTY, right-click.
[04:41] <darkaudit> what's the preferred ver. of xmame with an nVidia GeForce card?
[04:42] <pjo> Oh thanks  for the right-click!
[04:42] <afroman> karsten
[04:42] <afroman> karsten: hi again
[04:43] <afroman> karsten: I'm back
[04:44] <afroman> anyone here who can help me with scp and ssh
[04:45] <paulproteus> afroman: Sure.
[04:45] <paulproteus> But you'd have to ask a question.
[04:45] <hutch> hey...does ne body kno how to install the "linux-install.sh" for UT2004?
[04:45] <hutch> and apply the patch
[04:45] <afroman> all right
[04:45] <paulproteus> hutch: Just run it, as I understand.  $ ./linux-install.sh
[04:45] <dantheman> how can i get transparency in my windows?
[04:46] <darkaudit> hutch: which patch? there are several
[04:46] <afroman> 1st wot is the difference between SCP and SSH
[04:46] <paulproteus> afroman: SSH is a protocol.
[04:46] <paulproteus> scp is a program that uses the SSH protocol to copy files.
[04:46] <afroman> cool
[04:46] <paulproteus> sftp is another such program.  They both talk to the remote computer by the SSH protocol.
[04:46] <darkaudit> hutch: http://liflg.org/
[04:47] <paulproteus> scp is best for little files when you know where they are.
[04:47] <paulproteus> ssh is a general client for the SSH protocol.  It lets you run programs on the remote computer, forward ports, and more.
[04:47] <afroman> paul> ok... so wot do U recommand to use for file transfer...??
[04:47] <afroman> wot prog...?? even if U have to beyond SSH...
[04:48] <ThomasWinwood> afroman: Your question reminds me of the people who say "I use the internet version 4" when they mean Internet Explorer.
[04:48] <tritium> afroman, s/wot/what
[04:48] <Xenguy> afroman: for yourself? for others? Linux->linux? d0ze->linux? on a LAN, or between remote networks?
[04:48] <Xenguy> afroman: and jesus, can you type English please?
[04:48] <afroman> I just want the easiest
[04:49] <dantheman> i'm trying to watch a video in vlc and i get an error that says "oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dv/dsp)"
[04:49] <dantheman> does anyone know what i might to do fix that?
[04:49] <ThomasWinwood> dantheman: Switch to another sound daemon, like esd or alsa.
[04:49] <Android20> i am in need of assitance with dpkg if any one is available
[04:49] <hyphenated> dannemare: use a sound server in all your apps
[04:49] <Xenguy> afroman: apt-get install ssh (the server), and install 'winscp' on your d0ze PC's
[04:49] <ThomasWinwood> Android20: man dpkg
[04:50] <dantheman> how do i switch to another sound daemon?
[04:50] <Xenguy> afroman: use 'gftp' if you want a GUI linux client
[04:50] <afroman> in between windows boxes I use USB cable...  can I use the cable in Linux
[04:50] <Xenguy> afroman: make sure you configure your ssh server properly (man sshd_config, then configure /etc/ssh/sshd_config)
[04:51] <dantheman> oh wait...it appears to only be a problem in vlc
[04:51] <dantheman> gxine works fine
[04:52] <karsten> afroman: Sorry, was AFK.
[04:52] <afroman> Xenguy: what is AFK???
[04:52] <Nalioth> howdy
[04:52] <Xenguy> away from keyboard
[04:52] <afroman> ok
[04:53] <Nalioth> i'm back from AFK land, where i was installing a new power socket
[04:53] <Nalioth> it was not an enlightening experience
[04:53] <Nalioth> afroman, were you successful?
[04:53] <karsten> Nalioth: Try sticking your finger in it.
[04:53] <afroman> I just installed SSH
[04:53] <paulproteus> karsten: That'd be enlightening.
[04:53] <Nalioth> karsten, holding the bare wires, and having the neighbor turn the breaker back on is easier
[04:53] <karsten> paulproteus: Quite.
[04:54] <afroman> how do I configure??
[04:54] <REds> can u use normal debian htto sources, to install packages or upgrade ubuntu
[04:54] <karsten> paulproteus: ...and if a finger wasn't sufficient, I've got some other suggestions....
[04:54] <ThomasWinwood> karsten: At least you might achieve enlightenment (= nirvana) ;)
[04:54] <karsten> REds: Not supported, nor particularly advised.
[04:54] <Nalioth> REds, that may/will break some ubuntu innards
[04:54] <Nalioth> afroman, did you install on your linux box "openssh-server"?
[04:55] <karsten> afroman: It should be configured sanely out of the box.
[04:55] <afroman> Nalioth: no I installed just SSH
[04:55] <Muffie> hello all. Anyone a good tool to fix some partition possible errors? I have a 2o. disc (30gb) with 1 windows partition and 5gb of free space. I have tried to install FreeBSD (unsucessfully). The Windows Data partition still there, but fdisk shows that the disk contains only 2mb!!! and Partition Magic shows that its BAD!
[04:55] <karsten> afroman: 'ssh localhost' to test.
[04:55] <karsten> Muffie: gpart
[04:55] <Android20> thank you
[04:56] <karsten> Muffie: ...or qtparted, in general, though I'd get my backups done *frist*.
[04:56] <Nalioth> afroman, you will need to install the server on your linux box (unless you want that BSOD thing hanging over your every byte xferred by installing a ssh server on your windoze block)
[04:56] <karsten> Muffie: Um.  *first*.
[04:56] <ThomasWinwood> frist bakcup!
[04:56] <karsten> Muffie: Not sure the Senate Majority Leader will take special interest in your partition table...
[04:56] <karsten> ThomasWinwood: Actually, in Frist's case, I'd just as soon nuke the original.
[04:56] <Nalioth> Muffie, no good will come of mixing windoze and anything
[04:57] <karsten> Nalioth: Dunno.  I've always been partial to windows & baseballs.
[04:57] <Muffie> qtparted quits with an error! :) Critical Error during PED_DISK_NEW!!!
[04:57] <Android20> the synaptic package manager is reporting that W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key
[04:57] <afroman> Nalioth: I don't know what you just said... but I'm gonna install the server
[04:57] <Nalioth> karsten, a delightful combination! the sound the ball makes when it passes thru the box is heavenly
[04:57] <ThomasWinwood> Mixing Windoze and Linux is like mixing Ectasy with LSD. It produces nasty toxins and you die painfully and end up looking like a bloated pig.
[04:58] <Nalioth> afroman, the package is called "openssh-server" in ubuntu
[04:58] <afroman> karsten: the test, how do I know if it works or not...??? it is just standing still
[04:58] <karsten> ThomasWinwood: ...and you love everyone while doing it?
[04:58] <karsten> afroman: 'ssh -v localhost'.
[04:58] <Nalioth> afroman, it will not work unless you have the server running
[04:58] <Termina> Hey, I'm having trouble getting a monitor to work (along with my LCD screen) on my laptop as per this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31686
[04:58] <ThomasWinwood> karsten: Before you first puke brown gunk, yeah.
[04:58] <karsten> afroman: ...you should at some point get a password prompt, or a timeout.
[04:58] <Termina> Could anyone help me out? :)
[04:58] <bluefoxicy> find me something that looks like litestep
[04:58] <karsten> ThomasWinwood: No, not brown gunk.
[04:58] <karsten> ThomasWinwood: ...the LSD will colorize it.
[04:58] <bluefoxicy> http://beyondconvention.net/ohussain/lsinstaller/images/post_install.png
[04:58] <ThomasWinwood> It's brown to those of us with clarity of sight.
[04:59] <karsten> bluefoxicy: ??
[04:59] <Nalioth> bluefoxicy, litestep won't compile on ubuntu?
[04:59] <karsten> Tux flies!  http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=018764
[04:59] <ThomasWinwood> Litestep is Windows only.
[04:59] <afroman> karsten: how long do I have to wait...??
[04:59] <bluefoxicy> Nalioth:  does it work on ubuntu?  :)
[04:59] <Nalioth> isnt it open source?
[05:00] <bluefoxicy> ThomasWinwood:  find something that looks like it for me :D
[05:00] <karsten> bluefoxicy: Um.  How about WindowMaker?
[05:00] <bluefoxicy> karsten:  windowmaker doesn't look like that, can it be set that way?  o.o
[05:00] <karsten> bluefoxicy: ...hrm.  Or XFCE4
[05:00] <ThomasWinwood> bluefoxicy: Why? GNOME is positively heavenly, and opensource. ;)
[05:00] <karsten> bluefoxicy: ...which is highly themable.
[05:00] <Nalioth> bluefoxicy, search your apt-cache or use synactic for "litestep"
[05:01] <karsten> Nalioth: Litestep is a Windows-only desktop environment.  It's themes on top of Windoes Explorer, IIRC.
[05:01] <ThomasWinwood> karsten: It's an alternative shell instead of explorer.exe
[05:01] <karsten> bluefoxicy: ...the icon sets you're seeing there are really close to a couple of the XFCE4 themes.
[05:01] <bluefoxicy> karsten:  it's a separate shell.
[05:01] <karsten> ThomasWinwood: I know.
[05:01] <Nalioth> karsten, ok, but searching with synaptic under "contains" and the term litestep may bring an answer
[05:01] <metalsand> Litestep negates Windows Explorer... explorer.exe isn't running
[05:01] <karsten> bluefoxicy: OK, wasn't sure of the specifics.
[05:01] <karsten> Nalioth: It doesn't.
[05:01] <metalsand> Is there much themeing done for gnome?
[05:02] <karsten> Nalioth: Likewise.  Though I've played with the GNUWin II cd, which includes Litestep.
[05:02] <bluefoxicy> did anyone actually look at the screenshot I showed?
[05:02] <afroman> karsten: I waited nothing came
[05:02] <bluefoxicy> it's a very soft looking setup :)
[05:02] <karsten> metalsand: Most of the theming for gnome ith done by thothe that lithp.
[05:02] <karsten> afroman: /etc/init.d/ssh start
[05:02] <dantheman> does anyone know how to do window transparency in gnome?
[05:02] <ThomasWinwood> s/most/motht
[05:02] <afroman> Nalioth: I think I have the server installed and running
[05:03] <Nalioth> isnt litestep modeled after "afterstep" or something?
[05:03] <karsten> bluefoxicy: I'm looking.
[05:03] <ThomasWinwood> Nalioth hits the hammer with the nailhead.
[05:03] <Nalioth> afroman, do the "ssh localhost" thang from a terminal
[05:03] <Termina> Hey, anyone willing to help me set up dual monitors on my laptop? ^_^;
[05:03] <Nalioth> so get 'afterstep'
[05:03] <karsten> ThomasWinwood: Yet another case of "When you're a nail, everything looks like a hammer?"
[05:03] <ThomasWinwood> Something like that, karsten.
[05:03] <karsten> Nalioth: LS != afterstep.
[05:03] <spiderworm> help, where is the desktop sharing thing in ubuntu?  cant find it under applications
[05:03] <karsten> Nalioth: ...and WMaker is the more current deal anyway.
[05:03] <afroman> Nalioth: I*m doing it
[05:04] <afroman> nothing
[05:04] <karsten> spiderworm: nautilus.  'smb://<ip - or hostname>
[05:04] <bluefoxicy> hmm
[05:04] <ThomasWinwood> LS was originally like Afterstep, but diverged once the Wharf became optional.
[05:04] <Nalioth> afroman, try "ssh <IP_ADDRESS>"
[05:04] <spiderworm> karsten: not file sharing, DESKTOP sharing
[05:04] <karsten> spiderworm: x11vnc
[05:05] <afroman> Nalioth: I even did /etc/init.d/ssh start and it said "Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell Server
[05:05] <metalsand> karsten: Do all things I download using Synaptic need to be installed with the dpkg command?
[05:05] <Nalioth> metalsand, synaptic installs for you
[05:05] <karsten> metalsand: Synaptic should and IIRC _does_ install for you by default.
[05:05] <CitizenKane> does anyone know how to edit the panel menus in gnome?
[05:05] <metalsand> karsten: If I downloaded the wlan-ng-doc, I'm still not sure how to read the documentation
[05:06] <metalsand> If it already installs it where do I go to read it?
[05:07] <ThomasWinwood> metalsand: possibly a man page?
[05:07] <afroman> Nalioth: well...
[05:07] <afroman> ??
[05:07] <metalsand> Hrmmm. I'll try that
[05:07] <metalsand> I'm rebooting right now, I'll try man wlan-ng
[05:07] <Nalioth> metalsand, in galeon there is a link in the default startpage for on-system docs
[05:08] <metalsand> Where's galeon?
[05:08] <Nalioth> afroman, well what?
[05:08] <Nalioth> metalsand, it is a web browser
[05:08] <CitizenKane>  does anyone know how to edit the panel menus in gnome?
[05:08] <metalsand> Doe sit come defult with Ubuntu?
[05:09] <metalsand> default*
[05:09] <afroman> Nalioth: it timed out
[05:09] <Nalioth> hmmm
[05:09] <Nalioth> metalsand, yes
[05:10] <afroman> Karsten: it timed out
[05:10] <Nalioth> afroman, go to your windozer and see if you can connect using putty or some other ssh enabled transfer agent
[05:10] <metalsand> What does the little red square next to the network status icon mean?
[05:10] <metalsand> On the bottom right
[05:10] <SiRrUs> hello
[05:10] <karsten> afroman: grep ssh /var/log/daemon.log
[05:10] <Nalioth> karsten, thank you
[05:10] <afroman> Nalioth: I have tried before and it worked...
[05:10] <dantheman> does anyone know how to get window transparency in gnome?
[05:11] <Nalioth> i only know that sftp/scp is the easiest to set up
[05:11] <metalsand> My network connection is sending and recieving but I cannot access the internet
[05:11] <|iceman|> anyone know how to add mp3 export capability to audacity w/o having to compile lame?
[05:11] <CitizenKane>  does anyone know how to edit the panel menus in gnome?
[05:11] <doug> evening everyone!
[05:12] <afroman> karsten: nothing comes with that command
[05:12] <regeya_> lame is in multiverse
[05:12] <karsten> afroman: ps aux | grep [s] shd
[05:12] <|iceman|> i have lame installed, but audacity doesn't recognize it for export
[05:13] <ryman> I want to learn C program, after I type my code gedit. what do I do after that ? what file ext do I save the file as and how to I execute it ?
[05:13] <karsten> afroman: ...and what happens when you do '/etc/init.d/ssh start' ?