[12:18] <Graham> There's more
[12:18] <Graham> then sudo iwconfig <device> key "s:<key>"
[12:18] <Graham> then finally sudo dhclient <device>
[12:19] <titanix88> Anyone can tell me h 2 install beryl with dapper without changing main xsession(probably a link pls)?
[12:20] <intelikey> h2o  ?
[12:20] <ads_> any1 familiar with virtualbox?   can i set up a virtual hd on a diff partition or diff hd other than the host os?   i.e im running kubuntu(the host os) i want to be able to run windows xp or vista from a hardrive different to my kubuntu hardrive
[12:20] <kane> anybody know how to tell kide which screen is "1" and which is "2" in a duel screen setup.
[12:20] <kane> ?
[12:21] <mas195> graham: s: is an unrecognized wireless command
[12:22] <xevious> I'm having serious problems with nvidia drivers
[12:22] <titanix88> xevious: what prblms?
[12:23] <Graham> sudo iwconfig <device> key "s:<key>"
[12:23] <xevious> specifically, i have the nvidia-glx-legacy package installed, and 2d works fine but GLX is not loading correctly. The nvidia kernel module loads fine. In Xorg.0.log it says that the GLX module loads correctly. But when I try to run glxgears to test it, I get this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". \ Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[12:23] <xevious> glxinfo crashes
[12:24] <xevious> well. glxinfo fills up my screen with stuff about GLX being missing and then does a core dump
[12:24] <titanix88> xevious:tried "sudo nvidia-xconfig"?
[12:24] <eljefe> kane: not sure but something to do with 'leftof' or 'rightof' i think... but maybe its '1 leftof 2' and i am not solving anything for you ;\
[12:24] <Jucato> legacy will have to use "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" iirc
[12:25] <bomber> kane if you go to the kmenu and go to system settings
[12:25] <xevious> my xorg.conf file is fine
[12:25] <xevious> i'm in X right now. 2d works a-ok
[12:25] <titanix88> xevious:i recommend u try nvidia-xconfig.
[12:25] <bomber> then monitor and display click administrator mode and it should let you change which one is 1'st and 2nd
[12:25] <xevious> # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
[12:26] <xevious> that's the first line of my xorg.conf
[12:26] <bomber> i dont have dualies but it looks like it will work
[12:26] <marko_> why they are not many games in ubuntu repos
[12:26] <kane> bomber: thanks
[12:26] <marko_> like warsaw cube vdrift glest ...
[12:26] <bomber> np
[12:26] <titanix88> xevious: what's ur graphics card?
[12:27] <ads_> im running dual nvdia
[12:27] <intelikey> it appears that according to the "statistics counter" if your nick appears twice in a row. you are talking to your self.    (channel statistics)
[12:27] <intelikey> that obviously doesn't take copy and paste into account,
[12:27] <intelikey> as well as when one sends several lines to one individule without waiting for their reply
[12:27] <xevious> titanix88: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV15 [GeForce2 GTS/Pro]  (rev a4)
[12:27] <bomber> heya ds
[12:27] <bomber> ads that is
[12:27] <drblood> can u download regular aim
[12:27] <bomber> are you using the nvidia drivers?
[12:27] <drblood> or sum how get in an aim chat using kopete
[12:27] <ads_> yes
[12:28] <bomber> with the newest kubuntu?
[12:28] <ads_> i had to make some changes to enable dual screen effectively
[12:28] <drblood> my friends tried to invite me to a chat its not working
[12:28] <drblood> im using kubuntu 7.4 feista
[12:28] <xevious> titanix88: using the 7184 driver that's in the repos
[12:28] <ads_> sec ill find the link
[12:28] <xevious> feisty, all updated
[12:29] <xevious> did a fresh install a week ago or so
[12:29] <titanix88> xevious:maybe u need "nvidia-glx" not "nvidia-glx-legacy"?
[12:29] <intelikey> drblood gaim ?
[12:29] <mas195> graham: network konsole reported that now dhcp network is available and the adpater is now sleeping, but i have a windows laptop in a different room that is connected wirelessly via dhcp
[12:29] <drblood> ?
[12:29] <xevious> titanix88: the READMEs on nvidia.com indicate 71xx series
[12:29] <bomber> i couldnt get the nvidia drivers working.... messed up the install
[12:29] <ph8> hey again
[12:29] <drblood> the aim used on internet
[12:29] <drblood> O_o
[12:29] <ph8> in this day and age, do i still need ot setup a chroot to play flash in firefox, or run vmware-server?
[12:30] <intelikey> drblood sudo apt-get install gaim
[12:30] <drblood> kk
[12:30] <ads_> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#how_to_setup_Dual_Monitors_with_NVidia_in_Feisty_Fawn
[12:30] <ads_> tried this^^
[12:31] <titanix88> drblood: kopete should work fine :?
[12:32] <drblood> it doesnt allow u to go in chats on aim
[12:32] <drblood> u kno a chat with more than 1 person
[12:33] <igniter> I'm looking for a program to limit my download speed on my own computer, what's an easy to use program that can do that? Thank you!
[12:33] <mas195> graham: network konsole reported that now dhcp network is not available and the adpater is now sleeping, but i have a windows laptop in a different room that is connected wirelessly via dhcp
[12:33] <_StefanS_> igniter: use kget, and set the download speed limit
[12:33] <ads_> any virtualbox gurus?
[12:34] <igniter> thank you _StefanS_, I'm going to check it
[12:34] <drblood> how do u make the snow fall
[12:34] <drblood> using beryl
[12:34] <drblood> i forgot :/
[12:34] <ads_> rain?
[12:35] <drblood> rain or snow
[12:35] <drblood> idc
[12:35] <drblood> sumethin cool
[12:35] <ads_> haha  okz well after uve enabled it in    beryl settings manager|extras
[12:35] <Roxy> Hello I'm having some problems with KNetwork in that one it has a tendency to stall randomly at different spots and two, seems to be incapable of connecting to a WEP protected network anyone have a solution =\ ?
[12:36] <ads_> then the shortcut key  is alt f8  i believe    it will tell u the shortcut key under the water effects then shortcuts
[12:36] <ads_> mind u if youre not running a decent card it will freeze up ur system
[12:36] <xevious> so how long does it usually take for a new nvidia driver to make it to the repos?
[12:36] <Emess> hi, couldnt get feisty to work on this old box iv got so tried edgy to recieve this error: mount: function not implemented - any ideas?
[12:36] <drblood> im in extras
[12:36] <drblood> i have water effect checked off
[12:36] <xevious> i'd rather use the packages from the repos for easier updating in the future (my mom's computer)
[12:37] <drblood> delay is 137
[12:37] <drblood> amplitude
[12:37] <ads_> xevious strange im running a geforce 5200 fx  and i have no problems with beta drivers
[12:37] <drblood> .8000
[12:37] <drblood> so wat i do?
[12:37] <Emess> found this 'answer' but i have almsot no idea what it means https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/66585
[12:38] <ads_> shortcut tab
[12:38] <drblood> so how do u use the rain?
[12:38] <ads_> drblood: shortcut tab in water effect
[12:38] <ads_> look to see what is assigned
[12:39] <ads_> virtualbox   any1???
[12:39] <drblood> its shift+f9
[12:39] <ads_> ther u go then  hav fun ;)
[12:39] <drblood> is there a way to have rain comming down
[12:39] <drblood> not ripples
[12:39] <drblood> or have snow :O
[12:40] <ads_> no idea sry      virtualbox   any1   pretty pls?
[12:41] <drblood> theres a way to make sno
[12:41] <drblood> snow*
[12:41] <igniter> kget can't do what I need, I'm looking for a program that'll limit the speed of anything I might be downloading, like youtube videos or the loading speed of web pages, any program that can do that?
[12:42] <ads_> ya  wud be nice to hav a way to control all outbound connections vis bandwidth
[12:42] <ads_> via*
[12:42] <mas195> graham: network konsole reported that now dhcp network is not available and the adpater is now sleeping, but i have a windows laptop in a different room that is connected wirelessly via dhcp
[12:42] <igniter> on xp I used a program called netlimiter
[12:43] <notme> is there another client as frostwire but not in java? java takes soo much resources
[12:43] <Arwen> notme, err, amule
[12:43] <Arwen> or, gnutella I think
[12:43] <notme> Arwen: well but amule is terribly slow
[12:43] <Arwen> well, those are my suggestions, you're free to use what you want.
[12:44] <ads_> Arwen: used virtualbox?
[12:44] <Arwen> ads_, err, nope
[12:44] <ads_> okz np
[12:44] <notme> gnutella, mm i'm gona try it, is it a GTK app?
[12:44] <Arwen> notme, yes. Everything is GTK.
[12:45] <Arwen> !gnutella
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnutella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <Arwen> ...
[12:45] <Arwen> notme, you could use limewire if you want
[12:46] <Arwen> oh wait, that's java too
[12:46] <Roxy> Does anyone know of a replacement for KNetwork?
[12:47] <notme> Arwen: i'm searching a bit, and gnutella is only the protocol, so there's choices, hehe
[12:48] <notme> Arwen: I dont want to use frostwire because it uses 60-70% of one of my cores
[12:48] <ubuntu_> Hi. I have create 4 partitie's for 3 linux systems and 1 Windows but how can i install it on SDA3 ?
[12:48] <igniter> nevermind my question, I love Adept, typed "bandwidth" and there are at least 2 programs that may be able to limit the bandwidth
[12:48] <Jucato> !info gtk-gnutella
[12:48] <ubotu> gtk-gnutella: shares files in a peer to peer network. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2205 kB, installed size 7548 kB
[12:49] <Jucato> Arwen: ^^^
[12:49] <Arwen> notme, you *could* just not warez stuff :-P
[12:49] <Arwen> Jucato, ok
[12:49] <Jucato> !info libgnutella-gift
[12:49] <ubotu> libgnutella-gift: giFT plugin for the Gnutella network. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (feisty), package size 164 kB, installed size 732 kB
[12:49] <mas195> anyone else want to take a crack at why i cannot connect wirelessly to my AP when my winblows machine will connect without a problem
[12:50] <igniter> mas195: just a guess, is dhcp enabled on the router if you're using one?
[12:51] <mas195> yes, dhcp works fine and it is wep enabled but kubuntu keeps telling me that the adpater is unable to locate a network and puts the adapter to sleep
[12:53] <Ace2016> hi all
[12:53] <Ace2016> anyone here use synaptic to install software?
[12:54] <Jucato> Ace2016: you can try asking the question directly. someone might know
[12:54] <Jucato> or in the absence of an answer, dare to ask in #ubuntu :)
[12:55] <Ace2016> Jucato: i start synaptic usin; kdesu synaptic, since upgrading to kde 3.5.7 my kicker crashes whwnever i install something in synaptic
[12:58] <Jucato> Ace2016: kicker crashes, but not Synaptic? hm...
[12:58] <Ace2016> Jucato: yup
[12:59] <Jucato> strange.. :(
[01:00] <BlueBird22>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent says i dont need anything like a driver or ltmodem. and its says you need to have a symlink created on boot (from /dev/ttyLTM0 to /dev/modem).   if  i follow all that.  and is my modem on ttyLTM0 ? i doubt it
[01:00] <Jucato> Ace2016: doesn't happen with Adept Manager
[01:01] <ksnipz> was wondering if someone could me, I've installed all the aac codecs but when I try to run ffmpeg with -acodec aac I get a aac codec not found error, anyone have any ideas on how I could fix this? I've tried recompiling and installing from source with the enable libfaac option but still nothing
[01:01] <Ace2016> Jucato: don't like adept, synaptic's layout is nicer
[01:01] <Roxy> Ummmm Jucato would you know an alternative progream to KNetwork for managing wireless and ethernet connections >_>
[01:01] <ph8> kick it
[01:01] <Jucato> Ace2016: I'm not asking if you like Adept or not. just asking whether Adept makes kicker crash too :)
[01:01] <ph8> lol sorry - was scrolled up
[01:02] <Jucato> Roxy: hm... nope :(
[01:02] <Ace2016> Jucato: oh i'll check
[01:02] <Roxy> :<
[01:02] <mas195> igniter: yes, dhcp works fine and it is wep enabled but kubuntu keeps telling me that the adpater is unable to locate a network and puts the adapter to sleep
[01:02] <Roxy> KNetwork keeps freezing and can't seem to deal with WEP connections
[01:02] <Ace2016> Jucato: how do you start it? kdesu adept doesn't work
[01:02] <BlueBird22>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent says i dont need anything like a driver or ltmodem. and its says you need to have a symlink created on boot (from /dev/ttyLTM0 to /dev/modem).   if  i follow all that.  and is my modem on ttyLTM0 ? i doubt it
[01:02] <Jucato> Ace2016: kdesu adept_manager
[01:03] <Ace2016> -_-
[01:03] <notme> is VLC gtk?
[01:04] <Jucato> notme: no. wxWidgets
[01:04] <Jucato> they're moving to Qt though
[01:04] <Jucato> notme: but wxWidgets uses GTK"s appearance on Linux
[01:04] <Roxy> is it relatively safe to run a fsck on Fiesty?
[01:04] <BlueBird22>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent says i dont need anything like a driver or ltmodem. and its says you need to have a symlink created on boot (from /dev/ttyLTM0 to /dev/modem).   if  i follow all that.  and is my modem on ttyLTM0 ? i doubt it
[01:04] <mas195> igniter: interestingly, when i launch dhclient from konsole, it shows that it is trying to connect to a network in the <IP_ADDRESS> instead of 255.0
[01:04] <notme> Jucato: I hope, couse for some reazon the lower bar doesnt behave as expected
[01:06] <intelikey> what iz zees "line 81: echo: write error: Interrupted system call"  ?
[01:06] <fabio> hello
[01:06] <intelikey> anyone seen that kind of error before ?
[01:07] <compilerwriter> Where does one go to cancel a print job?  I got lucky and the printer was out of paper. :-)
[01:07] <intelikey> compilerwriter cups manager
[01:08] <compilerwriter> intelikey The only time I have seen such a line is when a programmer put the blasted thing in as a debug tool.
[01:08] <Biovore> oO
[01:09] <intelikey> compilerwriter well that's not the case there.   it's a shell script and echo 'blah' should work there.
[01:09] <compilerwriter> Sounds like a syntax error occurred around line 81 then, intelikey.
[01:10] <ads_> syntax error?! u sjur?
[01:10] <Ace2016> test
[01:11] <intelikey> compilerwriter one might think so... but why has that script worked without error for many months and still does now.    but that one time it errored with that message ?       sorry syntax error doesn't add up.   other thoughts ?
[01:14] <ads_> virtualbox...  possible to add virtual hds on hds other than the host os hd????
[01:15] <Ace2016> Jucato: kicker krashed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:15] <Jucato> Ace2016: hm... then seems to be a deeper problem than just synaptic
[01:17] <mas195> %c9 igniter: interestingly, when i launch dhclient from konsole, it shows that it is trying to connect to a network in the <IP_ADDRESS> instead of 255.0
[01:17] <Ace2016> Jucato: here is the crash log; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23522/
[01:18] <Jucato> argh.. I'm no good at debugging :(
[01:18] <ejupin> Anyone know how I can configure my mp3 player with Amarok? Thought I had the string set, but it doesnt see it..
[01:19] <Trickser> hi, in kmail when i answer a message, I get a mixture of english and german for the templates. For example: "On Freitag 01 Juni 2007, <someone> wrote:"
[01:19] <Trickser> How can I solve it? in the template stands  for example "On DATE, FROMNAME wrote:"
[01:20] <Trickser> On \DATE, \FROMNAME wrote:
[01:20] <Trickser> sorry, the percentage sign is not shown...
[01:21] <intelikey> which target lang ?
[01:21] <hyuma> hello
[01:21] <hyuma> I've problem during the boot
[01:21] <hyuma> I get this error
[01:21] <hyuma> "dma timeout error"
[01:22] <hyuma> the boot is very slow
[01:22] <hyuma> how can I fix ?
[01:22] <Biovore> buggy hardware?
[01:22] <hyuma> can't think so
[01:22] <Trickser> intelikey: my current language is german, but i want to have english templates there
[01:22] <Arwen> hyuma, it means Kubuntu fails to activate DMA, so it probably means your hard drive controller is badly supported
[01:22] <Arwen> or that your hard drive just sucks
[01:23] <hyuma> mmh
[01:23] <hyuma> I've 4 HDDs, 2 IDE and 2 on SATA PCI
[01:23] <supernova_> why do i get an error when typing kcontrol in the konsole? (fresh ubuntu install)
[01:23] <Arwen> hyuma, sorry to be nitpicky, but SATA is a kind of IDE too
[01:24] <kane> anyone know why X wouldnt be picking the first meta mode to start up with?
[01:24] <intelikey> Trickser ummm   you would make it difficult.   maybe LC_ALL=C %var      not sure that will work there...
[01:24] <Arwen> anyway, try booting your live cd and seeing if hard drive access is slow
[01:24] <hyuma> if the boot from cd is good
[01:24] <Trickser> intelikey: in the previous version of kde it was possible...
[01:24] <hyuma> I must put my hdd on the garbagE?
[01:25] <Trickser> intelikey: now i updated to feisty, i think the problem is with the new version of kde
[01:25] <supernova_> can someone type kcontrol in the console and se if a error message accurs?
[01:25] <Trickser> intelikey: previously one could select the language
[01:25] <Arwen> hyuma, possibly. This might be a good time to swap out your PATA drives for SATA ones.
[01:25] <hyuma> thanks arwen
[01:26] <Trickser> intelikey: in the kmail configuration menu
[01:26] <intelikey> Trickser may still be a way.   if you can catch Jucato or fdoving  on that,  i've not seen the feisty release: so i'm in over my head there.
[01:26] <Arwen> hyuma, sorry I couldn't fix your problem :-(
[01:26] <hyuma> don't worry
[01:26] <hyuma> this linux hdd is very old
[01:27] <hyuma> 20GB
[01:27] <hyuma> how can I show you info about that HDD?
[01:27] <galaxygazer> I cant get my sound card working, its an hda-intel.. yes I know, I've looked at the help forum.. Someone should get ALSA config working for kubuntu that would sort it out
[01:27] <compilerwriter> Well crap it seems that the job is out of Cups and already to the printer is there a way to stop it now?
[01:27] <Biovore> hdparm /dev/hda?
[01:27] <intelikey> compilerwriter reset the printer ?
[01:28] <supernova_> can someone please type kcontrol in the console and se if a error message accurs?
[01:28] <Jucato> er sorry Trickser, no idea on that
[01:28] <Jucato> supernova_: what error message?
[01:28] <Biovore> supernova_: works here
[01:28] <Trickser> Jucato: ok, thanks
[01:28] <defcon> I need some help with chown, for some reason when I chown -R defcon:defcon .* while im in /home/defcon it changes all of owner ship in /home/* to defcon
[01:28] <hyuma> thanks Biovore
[01:29] <Jucato> defcon: no. there should be no . before the * afaik
[01:29] <hyuma> I notice that DMA of /dev/hda is off
[01:29] <intelikey> defcon yes  because   ~/.*   includes   ~/../
[01:29] <hyuma> and in W$ too, DMA not working....
[01:29] <hyuma> I can connect the problem on both OS
[01:29] <defcon> intelikey, so what is the right syntax
[01:30] <Jucato> intelikey: it will only change the ownership of hidden files
[01:30] <defcon> does chown change the hidden fines? with *?
[01:30] <defcon> no it is recursing to /home/* while im in /home/defcon/
[01:30] <hyuma> [17179607.380000]  hda: DMA timeout error
[01:30] <hyuma> [17179607.388000]  hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
[01:31] <defcon> i screwed all my permissions up on my system
[01:31] <intelikey> defcon sudo chown `whoami`:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` ~/.??*
[01:31] <Biovore> ^ looks like a dead or dieing disk
[01:31] <hyuma> Biovore: can I see infos about HDD? manufacter, datas, etc..
[01:31] <defcon> intelikey, thankyou, how do I do it for another user
[01:31] <Ace2016> hi all
[01:31] <defcon> accept myself
[01:32] <Ace2016> how do you find the install date of kubuntu? i want to know how old the install is
[01:32] <Ace2016> maybe time to reinstall
[01:32] <intelikey> defcon sudo chown <theirname>:<thiergroup> ~/.??*
[01:32] <galaxygazer> Ace just upgrade it with package manager its easier than whipein it out
[01:32] <intelikey> and ~ should be <their home>
[01:33] <defcon> thankyou intelikey
[01:33] <intelikey> defcon note i didn't make those recursive.  but you can.
[01:34] <Ace2016> galaxygazer: well its not that i need to reinstall windows and also get rid of quite a lot of messed up configs
[01:34] <defcon> also, I screwed up my permissions big time, how do I set all my permissions so kde/gnome runs without giving me permission errors
[01:34] <defcon> and other programs are giving me errors
[01:34] <defcon> like firefox and things that use .* dir's
[01:35] <terrestre> hi everyone
[01:35] <galaxygazer> o ic
[01:35] <Trickser> intelikey: i found the solution, you have to use other commands, like DATEEN, which is the data in C locale
[01:35] <hyuma> terrestre hi, you're from italy?
[01:36] <intelikey> defcon chmod -R 750 ~/ ;find ~/ -type f -exec chmod 640 '{}' \;
[01:36] <defcon> intelikey, what does that do exactly
[01:36] <defcon> lol
[01:36] <terrestre> hyuma: no, im from latinamerican :)
[01:36] <hyuma> ok
[01:37] <intelikey> defcon that won't include executables.  if you have things that need executed.  you'll need to set them by hand.
[01:37] <defcon> ok
[01:37] <defcon> thankyou
[01:37] <intelikey> Trickser thank you;  noted.
[01:37] <defcon> where can I learn these advanced commands
[01:38] <intelikey> these are not "advanced" commands  these are the linux basics.     ls /bin    and man <what ever you see there that you want to know about>
[01:38] <Tevlin> Any program for Linux and Windows that would allow me to enter a command to launch a program on another computer?
[01:39] <Tevlin> I have Kubuntu on a virtual machine in Windows, and it would be nice to be able to click a KDE shortcut and have a Windows program open on the host
[01:39] <intelikey> telnet, ssh, freenx, and others...
[01:39] <Tevlin> How would I do that for a single command though?
[01:40] <intelikey> "to click a KDE shortcut and have a Windows program open"    hehhe.   never mind.
[01:40] <Tevlin> lol
[01:40] <Tevlin> Thought I'd at least ask.
[01:41] <intelikey> wine
[01:41] <Tevlin> Didn't expect an easy answer
[01:41] <wtf> anyone know where kde keeps its resolution related settings?
[01:41] <Tevlin> heh, true
[01:41] <Tevlin> Though this would be for games
[01:41] <ph8> ?beryl
[01:41] <ph8> !beryl
[01:41] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:41] <intelikey> Tevlin however.   ssh and expect could be used to make small scripts that would do what you asked about.
[01:42] <Tevlin> Oh?
[01:42] <Tevlin> So I could do it in a shortcut?
[01:43] <intelikey> yes but it's not "easy" to set it up
[01:43] <Tevlin> Oh that doesn't bother me
[01:43] <Tevlin> Might actually like it if it's hard
[01:43] <Tevlin> More learning experience
[01:43] <Tevlin> :P
[01:44] <mas195> any suggestions as to why my knetwork manager does not "see" my wireless network or AP?  the ap works fine for winblows in another room...
[01:44] <intelikey> then setup ssh so you can do what you want to acomplish manually   then use expect to answer the prompts to automate the process.
[01:44] <Tevlin> Alright, I'll read up on expect, thank you
[01:44] <intelikey> np.
[01:45] <intelikey> Tevlin one other thing.   when you install expect  there are some example scripts you can learn from    dpkg -L expect      for a list of what all it installs
[01:46] <Tevlin> Would I need cygwin for this? The commands would be executed on Windows from the guest Linux
[01:47] <intelikey> no you don't need anything special on the windows end   just the normall putty or what ever you connect ssh to
[01:47] <Tevlin> Understandable
[01:48] <Tevlin> I'm not much of a fan if it personally, but it has to be my host because of games and because my laptop won't run Linux
[01:48] <hamalawy> hello everyone.. i just installed kubuntu a few hours, kubuntu ruuuuuuuuuullllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[01:48] <Tevlin> The idea of this would be to minimize Windows usage even further
[01:48] <intelikey> "because my laptop won't run Linux"    why not ?
[01:48] <supernova_> how do i update to the latest kde version?
[01:49] <Tevlin> Well, it's true that if I fought with it, I might be able to get it working on the laptop
[01:49] <hamalawy> no more crapy windows xp, vista or whatever bill gate$  is preparing for the next<PHONE_NUMBER> years
[01:49] <Tevlin> Hehe
[01:49] <galaxygazer> hamalawy: yeah its cool aint it
[01:50] <hamalawy> it's hyper mega ultra awsome
[01:50] <Tevlin> But I actually like running it on a virtual machine
[01:50] <Tevlin> Balmer does now, doesn't he?
[01:50] <Tevlin> The chair throwing guy
[01:50] <galaxygazer> I cant get my sound card working on it tho.. but hopefully they'll come up with a fix.. just have to go without movies for a while
[01:50] <federico_> Ciao
[01:51] <federico_> Somobody speaks italian?
[01:51] <intelikey> !it
[01:51] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:51] <crimsun> galaxygazer: what's the issue with your sound card?
[01:51] <intelikey> the bot seems to...
[01:51] <federico_> Scusate, grazie e ciao
[01:51] <galaxygazer> neit comrade we only speek russian in here! :))
[01:56] <intelikey> T() { Q() { T } ; Q } ;T
[01:57] <galaxygazer> ? netsplit
[01:57] <Jucato> void *intelikey = NULL;
[01:58] <crimsun> 19:51 < crimsun> galaxygazer: what's the issue with your sound card?
[01:58] <crimsun> galaxygazer: I'm awaiting your answer.
[01:59] <galaxygazer> crimsun: its an hda-intel card.. ive looked at the help forums but there solutions havent worked for me so far
[02:00] <galaxygazer> but im hopeful I can get it working, if not i'll just have to wait till they figure out a fix
[02:00] <crimsun> galaxygazer: I need some more information than what you've provided.  Please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.
[02:00] <galaxygazer> it worked fine on slackware using alsa conf
[02:00] <galaxygazer> ok
[02:01] <galaxygazer> that script seems a bit long winded why dont I just use terminal and type lspci
[02:01] <galaxygazer> ?
[02:01] <galaxygazer> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[02:02] <intelikey> ooops.  don't do that "T() { Q() { T;  }; Q;  } ;T"   it's ugly.
[02:03] <mas195> can someone give me the konsole command to terminate the database access for adept manager?
[02:03] <crimsun> galaxygazer: it's longwinded purposefully.
[02:03] <galaxygazer> ok
[02:03] <crimsun> galaxygazer: we wrote it to pull _all_ the information that we need to debug.
[02:03] <galaxygazer> ill get it and run it
[02:04] <crimsun> i.e., the line from lspci is insufficient.
[02:04] <galaxygazer> crimsun who do I submit the output too?
[02:05] <crimsun> galaxygazer: you're supposed to download the script and run it.
[02:05] <crimsun> it will post all the information to http://pastebin.ca and give you a URL.  Then you'll tell me the URL.
[02:05] <galaxygazer> ok
[02:07] <galaxygazer> great it didnt upload it
[02:07] <crimsun> run it again
[02:07] <galaxygazer> it says
[02:07] <galaxygazer> Your ALSA information is located at
[02:07] <galaxygazer> Please inform the person helping you.
[02:08] <galaxygazer> no URL .. :(
[02:09] <crimsun> galaxygazer: execute it with --debug
[02:10] <crimsun> bash ./alsa-info.sh --debug
[02:10] <crimsun> galaxygazer: then pastebin the contents of /tmp/alsa-info.txt somewhere
[02:11] <galaxygazer> k
[02:11] <intelikey> crimsun confirmed; either pastebin.ca is not working properly or the script is broken.
[02:12] <crimsun> intelikey: pastebin.ca has blocked uploads from the script due to its usage
[02:12] <crimsun> about a thousand people have used it
[02:12] <greg_g> Could someone please take a look at this post, I think the solution is probably easy and I did most of the work already, just need the finishing touches.  Thanks.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=460210
[02:12] <crimsun> it's being flagged as spam
[02:12] <ph8> does anyone know how to add start commands to my session in kde?
[02:12] <galaxygazer> nope im still .. bash: ./alsa-info.sh: cannot execute binary file
[02:12] <intelikey> i see.  ok.
[02:12] <crimsun> galaxygazer: did you save it as a text file?
[02:13] <galaxygazer> yes want me to email it over?
[02:13] <crimsun> galaxygazer: no, use another pastebin, like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:13] <galaxygazer> k
[02:13] <crimsun> galaxygazer: and I need the txt file, not the shell script
[02:14] <intelikey> oh nice.  now anyone that tries to use that script, their ip is flaged as spam....
[02:14] <intelikey> can't even browse pastebin.ca
[02:15] <crimsun> the next time you go to http://pastebin.ca, you should be redirected to a web page that allows you to unmark yourself
[02:15] <galaxygazer> now it wont even re-run the script.. never mind, it was a nice offer to help, but i'll get it working
[02:15] <crimsun> galaxygazer: you don't need to rerun the script.  /tmp/alsa-info.txt should exist.
[02:15] <crimsun> galaxygazer: I have vested interest in making it work; I'm an upstream dev for it.
[02:15] <crimsun> it->sound.
[02:16] <mas195> can someone give me the konsole command to terminate the database access for adept manager?
[02:16] <Biovore> If 1000/4 = 400 then computer nerd you be..
[02:16] <intelikey> crimsun yeah it says name removed but it obviously didn't work.  still blocked.
[02:16] <intelikey> wait that may have been a cache problem.
[02:17] <galaxygazer> unfortunatly I can see no file
[02:17] <intelikey> ok it was reading the cached page.  my bad.
[02:17] <galaxygazer> it just errored up and now it wont reload
[02:18] <galaxygazer> ALSAconf would get it working if there was an ALSACONF on kubuntu..
[02:18] <galaxygazer> but under man -k alsa there is no alsaconf
[02:19] <happytiger> galaxygazer: use asoundconf
[02:19] <crimsun> galaxygazer: alsaconf doesn't work in many situations, plus it uses insecure file handling, so we stopped shipping it.
[02:19] <crimsun> galaxygazer: anyhow, redownload the script from the web site I gave you earlier, then run it with --debug
[02:19] <crimsun> galaxygazer: then paste /tmp/alsa-info.txt somewhere, and tell me the url
[02:22] <galaxygazer> k I got the txt uploading it now
[02:23] <galaxygazer> heres the like crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23529/
[02:25] <crimsun> galaxygazer: thanks, looking now
[02:25] <galaxygazer> let me know if you can suggest a fix, im stumped ;)
[02:26] <galaxygazer> im a newbie, not very linux wise yet, but im not doing too baddly considering ive only been using it for 3 weeks
[02:27] <crimsun> oh, you got bitten by the codec mask issue
[02:27] <galaxygazer> as you can see from my text output ive mastered using cat lol
[02:27] <galaxygazer> what mask should I set?
[02:27] <crimsun> ok, first we need to unload all sound modules.
[02:27] <galaxygazer> I can do that with the rescue kernel cant I?
[02:28] <crimsun> No need to reboot.  Use these commands (copy & paste): kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*);sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}')
[02:28] <galaxygazer> or should I use your script
[02:28] <galaxygazer> k
[02:29] <galaxygazer> lsof: status error on /dev/dsp*: No such file or directory
[02:29] <galaxygazer> lsof: status error on /dev/audio*: No such file or directory
[02:29] <galaxygazer> thats the only output
[02:29] <crimsun> good
[02:29] <crimsun> now: sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec
[02:29] <intelikey> galaxygazer normal.  it worked
[02:30] <galaxygazer> done it
[02:30] <crimsun> good.  Now: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1
[02:30] <galaxygazer> done
[02:31] <galaxygazer> is that it? is it working??? erm is there anything I need to add to modprobe.d/alsa-conf??
[02:32] <hendaus> anyone friends with gnokii? thanx
[02:32] <terrestre> oops, i just del my root account,
[02:32] <galaxygazer> your a star for helping me out, its not working yet tho
[02:32] <intelikey> hendaus not me.  we aren't even on speeking terms.
[02:33] <intelikey> terrestre you did what ?
[02:33] <crimsun> galaxygazer: are you testing with ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav'' ?
[02:33] <galaxygazer> yeap
[02:33] <crimsun> galaxygazer: ok, now repeat the above unload and reload steps, except this time use probe_mask=3
[02:34] <galaxygazer> k
[02:34] <intelikey> terrestre can you explain ?
[02:35] <galaxygazer> FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[02:35] <crimsun> galaxygazer: dmesg|tail -10
[02:35] <terrestre> yeah i was probe some comand, adduser, etc... and then i type sudo deluser root, and no more sudo, no more nothing, maybe i have to reinstall. dont do that
[02:35] <crimsun> use a pastebin
[02:35] <terrestre> and sorry for my english
[02:37] <igniter> bye all and thanks!
[02:37] <galaxygazer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23531/ <~ crimsun
[02:37] <crimsun> galaxygazer: which commands did you just use?
[02:37] <intelikey> terrestre lol.  ok.    reboot the live CD    and mount the root file system of the installed ubuntu    then move the file     mounted/etc/passwd~    to  mounted/etc/passwd      you might want to copy  mounted/etc/passwd  first to some place safe on the hd.
[02:37] <galaxygazer> dmesg|tail -10
[02:38] <intelikey> terrestre that "backup" copy is there for that very reason.
[02:38] <galaxygazer> and the kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*);sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}') followed with the sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=
[02:38] <galaxygazer> I put probe_mask=3
[02:39] <crimsun> galaxygazer: ok, now repeat with probe_mask=4
[02:39] <galaxygazer> k
[02:40] <galaxygazer> nah same error
[02:40] <flake> I'm playing with my keyboard shortcuts, where do I look to specify 'pop-up' Panel 2 which is normally auto-hidden ?
[02:40] <galaxygazer> FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[02:41] <terrestre> thanks intelikey, jajaja its was funny, i miss a warning saying "dont do that"
[02:42] <crimsun> galaxygazer: and probe_mask=2 ?
[02:42] <flake> in feisty is it still not safe to write to ntfs drives?
[02:42] <galaxygazer> trying
[02:42] <flake> i want to set up a file server, and at the moment the drives are write protected
[02:42] <galaxygazer> nope same fatal error
[02:43] <cntb> my  gparted  liveCD is no good for huge disks
[02:44] <cntb> what can be done to resize?
[02:44] <galaxygazer> should I keep trying probe_mask upto 9 to find the one that works? if there is one?
[02:44] <cntb> my  gparted  liveCD is no good for huge disks
[02:45] <crimsun> galaxygazer: the only valid values are 0-3
[02:45] <crimsun> -1 and 4 are the boundary cases
[02:46] <galaxygazer> :( looks like im shagged then..
[02:48] <crimsun> well, does omitting probe_mask completely work?
[02:48] <crimsun> in this context, "work" means "allow the module to load"
[02:48] <galaxygazer> I tried something on one of the help forums, would the fact ive got this entry in the alsa-base be the cause of this? options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=8 model=auto
[02:48] <crimsun> oh god
[02:49] <crimsun> you didn't tell me you had a modprobe entry
[02:49] <galaxygazer> I take that as a yes
[02:49] <galaxygazer> I'll remove it
[02:50] <galaxygazer> k its gone does that mean start from step one and retry it all over again after a reboot??
[02:50] <crimsun> no need to reboot
[02:50] <galaxygazer> k
[02:50] <crimsun> you just need to start with probe_mask=0 and go through 3.
[02:50] <galaxygazer> k
[02:52] <supernova_> can someone tell me why you have to run apt-get clean every tme? why can you install the clean feat onec?
[02:53] <crimsun> you don't need to use the clean target
[02:53] <supernova_> how do you mean (im a linux noob)?
[02:53] <kane> its true, why would you?
[02:53] <galaxygazer> none of them work
[02:53] <crimsun> it's only necessary if you want to purge your apt cache, which really is only necessary if you either don't like caching downloaded debs or just don't have enough HD space in /var
[02:53] <drblood> im a linux uber noob :O
[02:54] <supernova_> im low on diskspace so..
[02:54] <supernova_> but since im new i dont understand.... apg-get is a feat that downloads the software?
[02:54] <cntb> what can be done to resize?
[02:54] <crimsun> galaxygazer: when you say "none of them work", do you mean you get the modprobe error, or do you mean sound is inaudible?  Please be precise.
[02:55] <kane> supernova_: apt-get downloads and installs programs for you.
[02:55] <galaxygazer> modprobe error sorry crimsun
[02:55] <cntb> old gparted is useless for bigger disks
[02:55] <kane> so you you wanted say, the program named firefox.
[02:55] <crimsun> galaxygazer: ok, so omitting probe_mask completely still gives you an modprobe error?
[02:55] <kane> apt-get install firefox would download and install it.
[02:55] <supernova_> kane: so why do i have to type apt-get clean every time?
[02:55] <galaxygazer> havent tried ill do that
[02:55] <kane> you dont.
[02:55] <supernova_> why not just clean?
[02:55] <intelikey> supernova_ man apt-get
[02:56] <supernova_> when i type clean it says i dont have it
[02:56] <kane> supernova_: because the command isnt clean
[02:56] <galaxygazer> without the probe_mask no error
[02:56] <kane> its apt-get clean
[02:56] <galaxygazer> crimsun
[02:56] <kane> apt-get is the application the word "clean" is an option of it.
[02:56] <bassgoon> is there anyway I can use a .bin?
[02:56] <supernova_> kane: but i though adding apt-get before downloaded and installd the feat?
[02:57] <intelikey> bassgoon sh file.bin
[02:57] <supernova_> oh so i dont have to be connecred to the internet to use apt-get clean?
[02:57] <bassgoon> intelikey, will that just run it?
[02:57] <bassgoon> I'm a bit of a noob sorry
[02:57] <kane> if by "feat" you mean application yes it does, if you use the "install" option for it.  apt-get install <whatever>
[02:57] <intelikey> bassgoon should
[02:57] <kane> supernova_: thats correct.
[02:57] <bassgoon> k
[02:57] <crimsun> galaxygazer: very interesting.
[02:57] <crimsun> galaxygazer: can you stick around for ~70 minutes?
[02:58] <galaxygazer> its this cheapo packard bloody bell, thats what I get for buying a cheap lappy
[02:58] <galaxygazer> sure
[02:58] <crimsun> I think I can fix it, but I'll need to compile some modules.
[02:58] <intelikey> kane 'feat' function/process
[02:58] <supernova_> kane: sorry but i just typed "sudo apt-get clean" does this mean that i havent installed the feauture?
[02:58] <galaxygazer> k,thanks mate your a star
[02:59] <intelikey> galaxygazer and your a planet   :)
[03:00] <kane> supernova_: all apt-get clean does is empty out the local cache of stored application packages, those packages it gets from the internet it stores.  apt-get clean removes those stored packeges
[03:00] <dregorth> supernova_: the "clean" feature is just an option you can use with apt-get. "sudo apt-get clean" doesn't install anything
[03:00] <supernova_> sorry im im slow but i installed linux today...
[03:00] <PeterJB> hi
[03:00] <dregorth> hi PeterJB
[03:01] <supernova_> dregorth: kanei understand that but then it means that i have to be connected vereytime i use apt-get clean since it has never been installed?
[03:01] <dregorth> mmm not sure but wouldn't think you'd need to be connected. is that correct, kane?
[03:01] <kane> supernova_: no, apt-get clean only removes files that are already locan on your computer.
[03:01] <dregorth> rgr
[03:01] <kane> er local not locan.
[03:02] <galaxygazer> white, sorry I cant PM I aint registerd yet :(
[03:02] <supernova_> i understand that but what i mean is that if the clean feature istnt installed on my computer it has to be downloaded every time?
[03:02] <supernova_> 12th hour in front of the computer now..
[03:03] <kane> supernova_: the clean feature is part of apt-get
[03:03] <dregorth> it's included in apt-get
[03:03] <dregorth> :)
[03:03] <kane> it cant be "not there" if apt-get is present.
[03:03] <supernova_> okey so its allready on my computer (from the moment i installed kubuntu?
[03:03] <kane> yes.
[03:03] <supernova_> now i understand..
[03:03] <dregorth> glad to hear it
[03:03] <supernova_> =)
[03:04] <intelikey> man apt-get
[03:04] <supernova_> hard to move from win to linux :p
[03:04] <intelikey> oh and    man man
[03:04] <kane> supernova_: you think thats hard? try moving from linux to win.
[03:04] <intelikey> man intro
[03:04] <supernova_> btw how do you get a console that displays everything that goes on (good when you want to learn)
[03:04] <supernova_> haha
[03:04] <intelikey> top
[03:05] <dregorth> supernova_: ya i know what ya mean :P
[03:05] <supernova_> im used to the manual cleaning in win..
[03:05] <supernova_> dregorth: how do you do?
[03:05] <dregorth> ya fun stuff [/sarcasm]
[03:05] <dregorth> supernova_: not bad. u?
[03:05] <kane> supernova_: in my opinion, the application installation/uninstallition in linux is years ahead of windows.
[03:05] <supernova_> heheh
[03:06] <dregorth> kane: definitely a lot better controlled IMO
[03:06] <kane> supernova_: i can of course name some place where windows does much better
[03:06] <supernova_> dregorth: i mean how do you do to get that console?
[03:06] <kane> but i always felt like that was a big strong poing in linux.
[03:06] <dregorth> supernova_: oh you said "how do you do" lol without clarifying
[03:06] <supernova_> if linux had support for direcx win would be obsolete
[03:06] <supernova_> =)
[03:06] <dregorth> supernova_: ummm not sure i understand you. you want a real-time action logger type utility or something?
[03:06] <intelikey> you mean it isn't already ?
[03:06] <kane> we have opengl.
[03:06] <supernova_> reviewing hardware on linux is hard :p
[03:07] <PeterJB> maybe you should ask ms to port it
[03:07] <intelikey> supernova_ why so ?     lshw | less
[03:07] <dregorth> brb...
[03:07] <supernova_> PeterJB: or release it as open source =)
[03:07] <supernova_> intelikey: ?
[03:07] <PeterJB> it could happen - thinking post revelation
[03:08] <supernova_> back to the console.. how do i get it to display all activity?
[03:08] <intelikey> top
[03:08] <intelikey> pstree
[03:08] <intelikey> ps aux
[03:08] <supernova_> hum.... doesnt say me to much
[03:09] <supernova_> i have opened the console from the k-menu.... then?
[03:09] <kane> supernova_: what do you mean by "all activity"?
[03:10] <intelikey> galaxygazer gooday mate
[03:10] <mas195_> %c9
[03:10] <supernova_> kane: i dont know.... ive just heard that you can have a console that shows all the activity. though it wold be a good thing when learing linux
[03:10] <mas195_> can someone help me solve a wireless problem?
[03:10] <kane> well, do you mean all running applications?
[03:10] <PeterJB> mas195_: desribe problem
[03:10] <supernova_> yes..
[03:11] <kane> like intelikey said "ps aux"
[03:11] <kane> in the command line will do it.
[03:11] <kane> or "top"
[03:11] <supernova_> do i type that in the console?
[03:11] <kane> yes.
[03:11] <kane> or
[03:11] <kane> press ctrl+esc
[03:11] <mas195_> i have an 802.11g access point / router, dsl, dhcp, and my windows machines can connect.  the adapter is recognized but cannot connect to anything. i have tried to manually configure the ip and other settings without success...
[03:12] <kane> and you will get a windows(ish) style process monitor
[03:12] <supernova_> kane: i see
[03:12] <intelikey> hardly a console but same idea kane
[03:12] <hendaus> pelo what is remote_filename and local_filename
[03:12] <kane> intelikey: indeed, but i odnt want supernova_ to get the impression everything must be done on the CLI
[03:13] <supernova_> but can i get a console to tell med things the "consoel way" so to say? i mean when i use a gui based thing it translates it into console..?
[03:13] <hendaus> HELPERS!!  what is remote_filename and local_filename?
[03:13] <kane> ps aux is about as console was as you can get
[03:13] <supernova_> do you understand (my explination suxx)
[03:13] <intelikey> kane yeah.  just that his Q was "console that..."    only reason i mentioned it.
[03:13] <kane> agreed
[03:14] <kane> i think learning the console is great, the power of the cli is another big advantage over windows.
[03:14] <supernova_> secondly can o lock file-icons so i cant move them around by accident?
[03:14] <supernova_> like you can with the icons on the desktop?
[03:14] <kane> supernova_: right click on the diesktop
[03:14] <kane> go to icons
[03:14] <supernova_> that works but with other files in konqueror
[03:15] <supernova_> like my harddrive...
[03:15] <intelikey> konqueror is a file manager.    it's supposed to be able to move things.
[03:15] <supernova_> where i keep pictures and so on
[03:15] <dregorth> nice. i never had a need for that feature so i just learned something new :D
[03:16] <supernova_> intelikey: i mealn like windows "autoarrange"
[03:16] <supernova_> mean
[03:16] <mas195_> PeterJB: any suggestions
[03:16] <intelikey> konqueror's menu view sort by       or some such.
[03:16] <supernova_> third then... when i type kcontrol in the console i get an error about some device (169) that cant be opened why?
[03:17] <PeterJB> whats the name/make of your card
[03:17] <intelikey> supernova_ possably wacom device ?
[03:17] <mas195_> well, i would tell you except all of my apps have stopped responding... cannot launch konsole or systems.....
[03:18] <mas195_> PeterJB: i do know that it is a broadcom adapter
[03:18] <supernova_> i have no idea... saw that peobple had the same problem on the forum when opening other apps by console
[03:18] <PeterJB> in that case follow instructions here
[03:18] <supernova_> kcontrol launches but i want to know why i get an error
[03:18] <intelikey> !wacom
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <intelikey> stupid bot.
[03:19] <KevinAlaska> O.O
[03:19] <dregorth> weird. i don't get that error (thing is, i usually DO!)
[03:19] <KevinAlaska> Jucato... that yakuake is pretty cool.  thank you for the tip. :)
[03:19] <mas195_> PeterJB: was there a link that I am supposed to follow cause it didn't show up
[03:19] <supernova_> can i get the console to show which apps who connects to the internet and where?
[03:20] <PeterJB> sorry i haven't typed the link yet
[03:20] <PeterJB> i'mjust finding it
[03:20] <mas195_> my bad
[03:20] <mas195_> thanks
[03:20] <jordo23_> If I am running Kubuntu and want to keep it that way, but want to install Gnome as the secondary WM,  which package do I ask for.  (The reason I ask is that I don't want to install Gnome's login manager or other metapackages that will switch me over to "Ubuntu" technically....)
[03:20] <david_> howyd partners
[03:20] <intelikey> supernova_ packet sniffing
[03:20] <kane> supernova_: which apps are currently using the internet?
[03:20] <PeterJB> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[03:20] <david_> is there a way to kill all things that would be using apt?
[03:20] <supernova_> yes
[03:21] <david_> i just booted up and its saying i cant use install programs because somethigns using it
[03:21] <PeterJB> use adept instead of synaptic and kate instead of gedit
[03:21] <supernova_> like basic firewalls in win dos
[03:21] <supernova_> does
[03:21] <drblood> dragn u afk?
[03:21] <david_> is there a way to automatically close all packaging systems?
[03:21] <KevinAlaska> david_ I was given this to fix that problem.. worked for me ---> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:22] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | david_
[03:22] <ubotu> david_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:22] <dregorth> good bot
[03:22] <PeterJB> go to ksysguard and search for apt or adept if the advice from ubotu or Kevin doesn't help
[03:22] <UFFFFFF> does someone know where to download the toshiba e-studio45's driver
[03:22] <KevinAlaska> yeah.. that one..  :-d
[03:22] <hendaus> helpers, where can i see my cellphone mounted? where can i see c: d: g: f:
[03:23] <intelikey> echo "c: d: g: f:"
[03:23] <intelikey> and you'll see     c: d: g: f:
[03:23] <supernova_> kane: oh i had a huge problem earlier today.. i couldnt install the ati drivers from their homepage (a .run file)... i got a syntax error bad substitutan or something
[03:23] <intelikey> :)
[03:23] <PeterJB> next to the k-menu there is system menu
[03:23] <PeterJB> go to media
[03:24] <supernova_> any ideas on how to solve that?
[03:24] <PeterJB> will list all drives
[03:24] <kane> ah well i dont use ati.
[03:24] <kane> sorry.
[03:24] <supernova_> :/
[03:24] <intelikey> !ntfs | hendaus
[03:24] <ubotu> hendaus: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:24] <kane> if no one knows here try #ati or #ubuntu
[03:24] <PeterJB> linux does not use drives but instead mounts filesystems to the folder /mount or /media
[03:24] <david_> KevinAlaska:  thanks that worked
[03:25] <PeterJB> if you go to the address bar in konqeuror and type media:/ will show all available devices
[03:25] <KevinAlaska> woot! /a_poor_dance
[03:25] <KevinAlaska> david_ glad it helped. :)
[03:25] <intelikey> !ati | supernova_ did you look at this ?
[03:25] <ubotu> supernova_ did you look at this ?: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:25] <supernova_> yes
[03:25] <KevinAlaska> david_ write those down.. I have been just pasting them in a text file to keep a log. :)
[03:26] <david_> KevinAlaska: k good idea
[03:26] <intelikey> KevinAlaska your irc client can log everything....
[03:26] <KevinAlaska> doh... intelikey had to one up on me.. :S
[03:26] <intelikey> 1^   :)
[03:26] <KevinAlaska> intelikey, just the selected items?
[03:27] <KevinAlaska> now thats 2^ now
[03:27] <supernova_> intelikey: the problem it that my card cant use the drivers in the adept... my card is to old..
[03:27] <supernova_> so i have to do it manually
[03:27] <greg_g> How does one enable a swap partition which is already made?
[03:27] <intelikey> just what has your name in it    or all     (most clients can anyway)
[03:27] <KevinAlaska> hay supernovea_ I used a program called Envy
[03:27] <KevinAlaska> worked great. let me get the link.. one sec
[03:28] <david_> is there a command to reset the sound system?
[03:28] <intelikey> supernova_ ah yes.  i stand under you.   my nvidia card is not supported either.
[03:28] <david_> i changed my device and dont want to reboot
[03:28] <mas195> PeterJB: can you repost the link for the wireless solution... konversation locked up and i had to restart
[03:28] <PeterJB> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[03:28] <PeterJB> use adept instead of synaptic or kate instead of gedit
[03:29] <KevinAlaska> supernova_ go to http://www.albertomilone.com/... I found a walkthrough outside of this by google.  worked great.
[03:29] <intelikey> david_ yes there is.   there are scripts for things like that too
[03:30] <KevinAlaska> supernova_ you at least with the (nVidia drivers on my end) I had to make sure everything nvidia was uninstalled first.
[03:30] <intelikey> crimsun gave the url eariler but power failure blanked my records of it.
[03:30] <Minataku> !seen dr_willis
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen dr_willis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <intelikey> david_  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37012
[03:33] <intelikey> david_ as you can see that's a pretty generic script (and purposely so) but you can modify and use any part as needed.    like modifying the modules var to more suit your need.
[03:34] <david_> intelikey: thanks!
[03:34] <intelikey> not a bit of it.
[03:39] <supernova_> kane: under k-menu -> system do you see synaptic at the bottom?
[03:40] <Dekkard> is there a qt/kde equivilent to efax-gtk?
[03:40] <supernova_> i believe i didnt have that one befote..
[03:40] <intelikey> synaptic is not default in kubuntu
[03:40] <supernova_> intelikey: i followed the ati guide again and now i se synaptic..
[03:40] <intelikey> Dekkard kfax ?
[03:40] <PeterJB> equivalent of synaptic is adept manager which is located in system
[03:40] <Dekkard> intelikey: is that a guess bro?
[03:41] <intelikey> supernova_ yes nothing wrong with adding it.   just that it's not installed by defauld in kubuntu
[03:41] <intelikey> Dekkard no.   it's an aproximation.
[03:42] <supernova_> intelikey: is every software in adept manager free of charge?
[03:42] <intelikey> supernova_ yes
[03:42] <intelikey> as far as i know.
[03:42] <intelikey> if not someone correct me.
[03:42] <K1765> i screwed up how my desktop looks lol, how can i set it back to default
[03:43] <Dekkard> i find kfaxview. or kfax.. but they are just viewers
[03:43] <Dekkard> i have efax-gtk installed and it works.. im just looking for a kde alternative
[03:47] <intelikey> Dekkard several faxing tools   nothing kde specific besides kfax       apt-cache search fax
[03:48] <Dekkard> i think there is kdeprintfax.. that uses cups to print to fax
[03:48] <Dekkard> im researchign it
[03:49] <intelikey> lprfax
[03:50] <Dekkard> hehe
[03:50] <Dekkard>  its native!
[03:50] <Dekkard> if you do a doc in kword.. and goto pring.. you cna select fax as the printer
[03:51] <Dekkard> dang
[03:51] <Dekkard>  thats goto print.. you can chose fax as the printer
[03:51] <Dekkard> which is kinda cool..
[03:51] <Dekkard> efax-gtk requires the file to be postscript.. which i guess means pdf
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> postscript is not PDF
[03:52] <Dekkard>  ok
[03:52] <Dekkard> ' all i knw is. it wouldnt accept doc files
[03:52] <Dekkard> but it woudl accept pdf
[03:53] <Dekkard> and they worked
[03:53] <intelikey> no pdf != ps
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> PS, if I am correct here, is a file format used by printers to actually print
[03:53] <crimsun> oh bah, the guy quit
[03:54] <intelikey> pdf = portable document format   (adobe propritary)
[03:54] <crimsun> and to think I've been trying to get him a fixed kernel module.
[03:54] <Dekkard> rigfht
[03:54] <intelikey> crimsun he said he was sending you his email and a /msg
[03:54] <Dekkard> but isnt there more than one postscript file format?
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> Dekkard: i don't think, so.
[03:54] <intelikey> crimsun maybe even a   memoserv message.
[03:55] <crimsun> intelikey: yes, I received that, but it doesn't really help online debugging :-)
[03:55] <crimsun> oh well, ping-pong it shall be.
[03:55] <intelikey> no it doesn't.   but i also understand 2am sleepy time.
[03:55] <Dekkard> all i know is.. iwoudl try to send with efax-gtk.. and it wouldnt accept the doc format.. but it did accept pdfs,, and they printed correctly
[03:55] <crimsun> oh definitely.  Particularly since I've not slept in a day. :-)
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: you in england?
[03:56] <intelikey> nosrednaekim i speek english some.
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: I mean, you said it was 2.
[03:56] <intelikey> where ?
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: no it doesn't.   but i also understand 2am sleepy time.
[03:57] <KevinAlaska> intelikey speaks very good english... good enough that I would have never known
[03:57] <dregorth> KevinAlaska: lol same here
[03:58] <KevinAlaska> heh.. I know.. suspicious isn't it...  *-)
[03:58] <intelikey> it's 2am each hour.   question is what time zone?    and saying i understand something doesn't mean it applies to me.    if you look at the context, you'll see we were talking about someone that "left because it was 2am and time for sleep"
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> ah!... pardon..
[03:59] <dregorth> mmm very ;P
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> lol.. I think 10 is late enough for myself.. talk to ya'll later..;)
[03:59] <dregorth> cya nosrednaekim
[03:59] <intelikey> gooday nosrednaekim
[04:00] <intelikey> errr late.
[04:02] <flake> is there a way to use keyboard layout to assign a key to pop up my Panel 2   ?
[04:02] <nimble> panel 2?
[04:03] <flake> yes, I have two panels, panel 2 autohides
[04:03] <intelikey> if you can write a script that does it you can make a hot key run it
[04:03] <KevinAlaska> hay... I am looking for good ideas on how to use the kubuntu server I am making for primary backups off a couple of other computers I have here at home and a network printer all connected to a linksys router then to a cable modem.  I have 1 computer that is dual boot winxp/kubuntu and a winXP desktop and lastly a vista laptop... any ideas on what I should consider taking advantage of in the wonderful world of linux here at home?
[04:04] <flake> cousre if the mouse isn't over it, it will autohide back unless I change the delay I suppose
[04:06] <intelikey> KevinAlaska rsync ?     tar ?     dd ?      what kind of "backup" you talking about?
[04:07] <KevinAlaska> well I was told to use rsync
[04:07] <KevinAlaska> but that is all cli right? NOT that thats bad... heh
[04:07] <intelikey> yes
[04:07] <KevinAlaska> does rsync backup only things that have changed on the client?
[04:09] <intelikey> ummm  rdiff-backup   would.
[04:09] <intelikey> i think rsync can.
[04:09] <greg_g> So, I know I am not the only person to have kde and gnome installed.  Does anyone know of a way to have KDE apps separated out of the main menu in gnome, and gnome apps separated out in the main menu in kde???
[04:09] <intelikey> might look at    backuppc - high-performance, enterprise-grade system for backing up PCs
[04:09] <KevinAlaska> with the sync part in rsync ... I would think that it could have the abilities to copy only parts that are changed
[04:10] <intelikey> greg_g kmenu editor will let you do that to the kmenu
[04:11] <craven> I installed Kubuntu ontop of my ubuntu... I really like KDE... wish I tried it instead of GNOME to begin with.. but I can't get the system to change my window themes..any ideas
[04:12] <greg_g> intelikey: thanks
[04:12] <KevinAlaska> what else is NIFTY to do with a linux server... I want to use this as a learning project as well as something fun to motivate me on different things I can do with it.
[04:15] <dregorth> mmm thank god for wireless...
[04:16] <intelikey> KevinAlaska setup your own cherokee or apache server and make it serve only to the 192.* range.   setup a mail server with sendmail and fetchmail....     ah  use iptables to control access to a subnet.   ahhhh....   setup a packet sniffer and spy on the other boxes....   ahhh.
[04:16] <greg_g> intelikey: asked in #ubuntu also and go this package, which is actually what I was thinking of, I just couldn't remember where I saw it before:  http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31031
[04:17] <KevinAlaska> woot.. nifty... thats the kind of stuff I am talking about. :)
[04:17] <intelikey> KevinAlaska but don't ask me to help on any of that; cause i'm network illiterate you know.
[04:18] <flake> how would I pop up a hidden Panel  ?
[04:18] <intelikey> dcop ?
[04:20] <KevinAlaska> Pft!... intelikey, me ask you for advice... when have I EVER done that? ;)
[04:20] <intelikey> oh....
[04:21] <l_r> hello
[04:21] <l_r> where is the interface for changing the MIME associations in kde?
[04:22] <l_r> i can't find it in the kcontrol
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> l_r: its under the menu in konqueror
[04:23] <l_r> oh..thanks
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> np
[04:24] <trakinas> hitmanWilly: hello again
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> howdy
[04:24] <intelikey> oh,  hey hitmanWilly;   (:   it's all yours.  i'm out for an hour or seventeen.
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> :)
[04:25] <trakinas> which are the modules for scsi emulation?
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> trakinas: not sure...
[04:25] <jamster545> does anyone know how to get Kubuntu to show up in Solaris's GRUB menu?
[04:25] <trakinas> hmmm... i find only a few ones in the portage... ops... on apt-get.
[04:25] <danny500> yo
[04:26] <danny500> does anyone know of a good program I can use to make an avi or mpeg file ready to burn onto dvd
[04:27] <trakinas> danny500: a series of ones..
[04:28] <trakinas> tovidgui is a good start.
[04:28] <trakinas> jamster545: sorry, but i never used solaris.
[04:28] <danny500> ok thanks
[04:28] <jamster545> well... there is like 100 ppl in here... someone should know how
[04:29] <danny500> how do I get tovidgui?
[04:29] <flake> jamster545 you try #solaris   ?
[04:29] <jamster545> ok?
[04:29] <danny500> no that would be way to easy
[04:29] <danny500> lol
[04:33] <danny500> nm I found out how
[04:36] <trakinas> danny500: tovidGUI
[04:36] <trakinas> =P
[04:36] <trakinas> tovid is the software.
[04:36] <trakinas> anyhow...
[04:37] <jamster545> well... i went to #solaris and everyone was mean... only one person was answering and he was calling me names and saying mean things and wouldnt help and said nobody there gave a $#!^ about Linux
[04:37] <trakinas> danny500: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[04:37] <jamster545> #ubunyu
[04:37] <jamster545> #ubuntu
[04:38] <flake> there is  #opensolaris
[04:38] <flake> they might be more friendly
[04:39] <qoop> hard times with beryl
[04:39] <qoop> :(
[04:41] <jamster545> probably not... i am asking in #ubuntu and am asking jenda, a moderator
[04:41] <flake> ok
[04:42] <danny500> how do I install txt2tags?
[04:43] <qoop> my head is hurting meeee my brains are boilnig... wtf there are infinit ways to instal somthing on bunthu linux whatever...
[04:43] <qoop> :(
[04:44] <qoop> dam it
[04:44] <danny500> ya no shit
[04:44] <danny500> opps sorry
[04:44] <qoop> whare is the clasic instal.exe :D
[04:45] <danny500> never mind I just downloaded a debian version and installed that lol
[04:45] <danny500> ya I know eh
[04:45] <qoop> o go to sleep i have tierd whit this... try tomorow with beryl again...
[04:45] <danny500> couldn't stick to a nice installer program for everything had to make it nice and complex :)
[04:46] <qoop> yap
[04:46] <danny500> lol
[04:46] <danny500> whats wrong with beryl?
[04:46] <danny500> are you using an ATI card?
[04:46] <qoop> what is more complex is the driver part
[04:46] <qoop> yap
[04:46] <danny500> thats why
[04:46] <qoop> yap i tink so
[04:46] <danny500> Linux has extremely bad drivers for ATI
[04:47] <trakinas> danny500: that is how to use it
[04:47] <danny500> I have a 512MB ATI card and Breyl won't work either
[04:47] <trakinas> danny500: before you ask... =P
[04:47] <qoop> so there are no ways to do that works?
[04:47] <danny500> as far as I know not really
[04:47] <qoop> gizasss
[04:48] <danny500> ya sorry bud
[04:48] <qoop> stuppid ati team...
[04:48] <danny500> no kidding
[04:48] <qoop> :(:(:(
[04:48] <qoop> man i going crazy
[04:48] <Jhereg> hey all
[04:48] <danny500> buy an nvidia card and it'll work lol
[04:48] <qoop> to replace my ati card i must replace my mother board and the entire PC
[04:48] <qoop> :(
[04:48] <danny500> how so?
[04:49] <qoop> a have a 9600 pro
[04:49] <qoop> agp
[04:49] <danny500> and?
[04:49] <flake> agp's are old tech, should be dropping in price
[04:49] <danny500> buy an agp nvidia
[04:49] <Jhereg> when I upgraded, my root directory got changed from being on /dev/hda to /dev/sde. everything still works, but why did it change?
[04:49] <qoop> yap but sh
[04:49] <qoop> not new
[04:49] <crdlb> qoop, use the open source driver builtin to *ubuntu
[04:50] <crdlb> don't use ati's proprietary driver
[04:50] <qoop> now all are made on pcie
[04:50] <crdlb> if you do, beryl will work out of the box
[04:50] <Jhereg> anyone know?
[04:50] <qoop> k il try next time when il instal clean
[04:51] <qoop> to rollback driver is more complcated then install beryl
[04:51] <qoop> so...
[04:51] <qoop> :D
[04:51] <crdlb> qoop, so basically don't install anything except beryl
[04:51] <crdlb> (and beryl-manager and emerald-themes)
[04:52] <qoop> yap ok
[04:52] <qoop> whell
[04:53] <qoop> when ii instaled frist time ubuntu i had desktop effects enabled it works fine for 2 min after that freez and no more monitor signal
[04:53] <qoop> the same way with the screensavers
[04:53] <qoop> thats why a had change my driver
[04:53] <Jhereg> I have a question, I just recently upgraded to fiesty, and when I did, Linux stopped seeing my Hard drive as /dev/hda and started seeing it as /dev/sde. From my understanding of linux, this isn't possible without a hardware change, so why did it happen?
[04:53] <qoop> but stiil freez on screensavers
[04:54] <l_r> damn, kwallet is really annoying. every time kde starts an application like kmail or kopete,  kwallet starts and asks for a password. is there a way to use kwallet without asking for passwords each time?
[04:54] <douty> hi there
[04:54] <douty> where can I get the drivers for nvidia graphic card?
[04:55] <douty> someone can tell me where I can get drivers for my nvidia graphic card?
[04:55] <l_r> don't you have this problem when using kmail? it seems impossible it only happens to me
[04:55] <qoop> nvidia.com?
[04:55] <danny500> douty: go to the nvidia website
[04:55] <jtt> Jhereg, alan cox re-wrote the kernel disk drivers and all future devices will be  /dev/sXX etc.
[04:56] <qoop> there are others with ati cards that freezzz on opengl app?
[04:56] <qoop> spacialy 9600
[04:56] <douty> yeah I know but ubuntu must have an easy way to install them, right?
[04:56] <crdlb> ubuntu does.
[04:56] <crdlb> kubuntu doesn't :(
[04:56] <jtt> !nvidia |douty
[04:56] <ubotu> douty: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:57] <douty> ubotu thanks
[04:57] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:58] <danny500> douty: the drivers are right on the nvida wesite or you can just use synaptic and install the drivers that come with linux
[04:58] <crdlb> douty, what nvidia card do you have?
[04:59] <dr_willis> best to use synaptic to install them
[04:59] <douty> nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440]
[05:00] <fbvortex> I'm trying to get unwanted stuff to not be started automatically on boot.  Along with others others I don't need/want brltty or avahi.  I've gone through the /etc/rc#.d/ and /etc/default directories, renaming the boot script links or moving them out of /etc/default, but these programs are still starting on boot!  How can I stop this?
[05:00] <crdlb> douty, then use the nvidia-glx package for your drivers
[05:00] <douty> what are they called in synaptic
[05:00] <crdlb> nvidia-glx
[05:00] <crdlb> that's the newest you can use
[05:00] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:00] <qoop> ok il take this silence as an answre... and there are 3 stupid moves in this 1. ATI for existing at all 2. Me for buy that shi 3. Burn my pc with benzen premium plus 98 :D
[05:01] <crdlb> qoop, you were getting freezes using the default driver?
[05:01] <qoop> yap
[05:01] <crdlb> ugh
[05:01] <qoop> yap 2
[05:02] <crdlb> they're reverse-engineered so they're not perfect :(
[05:02] <qoop> :D
[05:02] <qoop> on windwos xp i had the same problem with opengl but when i disamble agp 8x to 0 the problem was gone
[05:03] <crdlb> sounds like bad hardware
[05:03] <qoop> now when i migratet (so called) to ubuntu the same problem with opengl persits
[05:03] <qoop> i dont know anymore...
[05:04] <qoop> i had tested this card and no problem on other pc
[05:04] <danny500> qoop: your card can/t handle ogl? I think your card is dieing
[05:04] <danny500> or your mobo is going
[05:04] <qoop> i tink now is something with hardware compatibility
[05:04] <qoop> what is mobo?
[05:04] <crdlb> motherboard
[05:04] <qoop> aha
[05:04] <qoop> k
[05:04] <danny500> you noob lol
[05:05] <crdlb> !noob
[05:05] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel.  I do belive they are using that feature also to keep the cpu cool.
[05:18] <dr_willis> i think its going to be a bigger feature in the next gen of cpus also.
[05:18] <dr_willis> You want it to idle faster! :)
[05:18] <danny500> ok I guess so
[05:19] <dr_willis> Seen some specs on the next gen of cpu. they can selectively turn off parts of the cpu. and even turn off ram/slow it down when it wants to.
[05:20] <danny500> I have a ATI X550 on this machine rght now, any good?
[05:20] <dr_willis> But all thats mainly for laptops.. but it will also let you save power/heat on the desktop
[05:20] <dr_willis> ati is a bit of a gamble under linux. my X200m works 'so so' under linux. not ttied any of the newer ati stuff yet.
[05:21] <danny500> do you have beryl working?
[05:22] <dr_willis> you dont want to know what i think of Beryl :)
[05:22] <dr_willis> lets just say.. i dont use it.
[05:22] <dr_willis> :P
[05:22] <danny500> no I want to know if you got it working
[05:22] <dr_willis> Ive tested it out on various live cd's and my nvidia systems.
[05:22] <crdlb> on a x200m you'd have to use Xgl
[05:22] <dr_willis> I havent bothered  with it on my x2oom laptop
[05:22] <danny500> ok Xgl it is
[05:22] <dr_willis> the 200m  is having issues with fglrx even - so its back to the 'ati' driver for me.,
[05:22] <ablyss> i have beryl, compiz running just fine
[05:23] <trakinas> why rtfm arent alowed?? isnt rtfm = read the FRIENDLY manual?  or did someone fooled me? :o
[05:23] <ablyss> even got kiba-dock and cairo-dock running
[05:23] <dr_willis> I got windowmaker and its dock (warf) running. :)
[05:23] <ablyss> hehe
[05:24] <crdlb> danny500, err no
[05:24] <ablyss> vmware seems to disagree w/ ubuntu's latest kernel
[05:24] <crdlb> no don't need Xgl if you don't use fglrx
[05:24] <f4ramir> Hi. I am able to connect to my wireless network fine with XP. But not able to do so from Kubuntu with what appears to be the same settings.
[05:24] <ablyss> that or either my hardrive is dieing
[05:24] <crdlb> use the open source driver that comes with ubuntu
[05:24] <f4ramir> I can connect fine from both machines if WPA is disabled.
[05:25] <f4ramir> But once enabled I can only connect from the XP box.
[05:25] <f4ramir> Any idea why?
[05:25] <dr_willis> ablyss,  having issues running ubuntu under vmware? or visa-versa?
[05:26] <f4ramir> Is there a log that I can access for trouble shooting?
[05:26] <ablyss> dr_willis: well, vmware released a patch for the ubuntu's 7.04 kernel... and i don't think they perfected it yet
[05:28] <ablyss> dr_willis: it sucks too... mainly I have to run vmware to do office work
[05:29] <dr_willis> Hmm.. i got vmware server running on on my ubuntu box last i looked.
[05:30] <dr_willis> I did have to tweak somthing.. i forget what.
[05:30] <ablyss> vmplayer ?
[05:30] <ablyss> vmware-player.. maybe its called
[05:30] <ablyss> i don't maybe problem is in my upgrade
[05:31] <ablyss> have to go.. have a good chat,
[05:32] <dr_willis> I use vmware server
[05:34] <trakinas> i just want to my drive dvd be able to read.. =(
[05:35] <dr_willis> huh?
[05:37] <nzk> Why is my computer so slow
[05:37] <nzk> I barely have anything running and its a 2.5 load avg.
[05:37] <dregorth> f4ramir: still having those wireless probs?
[05:38] <trakinas> nzk: mine eats 345MB of memory only with kde...
[05:38] <nzk> trakinas, its not memory, its cpu
[05:38] <trakinas> nzk: i got it.
[05:41] <dregorth> f4ramir
[05:42] <f4ramir> dregorth: yep. I just tried resetting everything. Still can't get through with WPA enabled.
[05:43] <f4ramir> dregorth: Should I perhaps be using WEP instead? Or WPA2?
[05:43] <f4ramir> dregorth: XP doesn't seem to like WPA2 :S
[05:43] <dregorth> ya no kiddin heh
[05:43] <dregorth> don't worry about wpa2
[05:43] <dregorth> umm.. hmm...
[05:44] <dregorth> just thinkin to myself for a bit hehe
[05:44] <f4ramir> sURE - THANKS.
[05:44] <f4ramir> -caps
[05:44] <dregorth> trying to get your situation all lined out in my head
[05:44] <dregorth> np
[05:44] <dregorth> can't promise i'll be able to help but i'd like to for sure
[05:44] <dregorth> i had to deal with that prob too
[05:45] <dregorth> :P
[05:45] <dregorth> what kind of wireless card do you have?
[05:45] <f4ramir> In the security tab in the wlan assistant, I've selected "shared key", entered my key and check "ascii".
[05:45] <f4ramir> It's a Linksys
[05:45] <f4ramir> The router is the same.
[05:46] <dregorth> k
[05:46] <dregorth> while we're talking i'm gonna be doing a bit of searching on google as long as you will do the same
[05:46] <dregorth> :)
[05:46] <f4ramir> Sure :) I'm checking synaptic to see if there are any packages I should install or some such.
[05:46] <dregorth> k
[05:46] <dregorth> good good
[05:48] <f4ramir> hmm kwlan sounds interesting. But it requires me to remove knetworkmanager :S
[05:48] <trakinas> how do I disable scsi emulation?
[05:48] <dregorth> mm what model is your card?
[05:49] <f4ramir> wmp54g
[05:49] <trakinas> tried recompiling the kernel, but it crashes... using the ubuntu way can I change this?
[05:49] <dregorth> and what do you have the router set to? wpa, wep?
[05:49] <f4ramir> WPA
[05:49] <dregorth> trakinas: wish i could help ya out. no idea :P
[05:49] <dregorth> f4ramir: alright
[05:50] <dregorth> what're you using? edgy, feisty, or earlier?
[05:50] <trakinas> np! i will try smth tomorrow night or saturday... if everything fails, gentoo is here to save me. now i have to go.
[05:50] <trakinas> cheers all
[05:50] <dregorth> alright take care :D
[05:50] <trakinas> thanks! :]
[05:51] <klobster> anyone stopped using the artsD in favor of using ALSA directly?
[05:51] <Random_Transit> hey, question....why are all the fonts in my KDE apps much larger when i run those apps in GNOME?
[05:52] <Jucato> Random_Transit: did you check the Font settings in System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts ?
[05:52] <f4ramir> dregorth: feisty
[05:52] <dregorth> f4ramir: k gimme a bit more time. just keep watching for my responses :P
[05:53] <f4ramir> ok :)
[05:53] <f4ramir> Any idea where the logs are stored?
[05:53] <dregorth> mmm not off the top of my head...
[05:53] <dr_willis>  /var/logs
[05:53] <dregorth> i'm guessing you use dhcp right?
[05:53] <Random_Transit> Jucato, no, i don't actually have KDE itself installed....just the base libs and a few apps like KTorrrent and Amarok
[05:53] <f4ramir> dregorth: nope
[05:54] <dregorth> oh static, eh?
[05:54] <f4ramir> dr_willis: thanks. Where exactly in /var/logs? ANy idea?
[05:54] <f4ramir> dregorth: yes
[05:54] <dregorth> clever bastard lol j/k
[05:54] <dregorth> i'm still lookin no worries
[05:54] <dregorth> :)
[05:54] <f4ramir> heh
[05:54] <Jucato> Random_Transit: I'm not really sure, but I think KDE uses different font settings. But that could also be affected by how fonts are displayed by KDE or GNOME in the first place.
[05:55] <dregorth> do you wanna stick with static?
[05:55] <dr_willis> f4ramir,  grep and find is our fried.. :) what are we even looking for?
[05:55] <dr_willis>  :)
[05:55] <dregorth> dr_willis: do you know what his prob is?
[05:55] <f4ramir> dr_willis: to find out why my wifi doesn't connect with WPA enabled.
[05:56] <f4ramir> dregorth: It seems to work fine with static when WPA is disabled. So I'm not sure if that's the problem. Want me to give it a shot any how?
[05:56] <dregorth> hmmm
[05:56] <dregorth> that's weird
[05:57] <dregorth> lol
[05:57] <f4ramir> hehe
[05:57] <dr_willis> :)
[05:58] <klobster> mobuto: what kernel are you on (uname -r)?
[05:58] <f4ramir> dregorth: I've not registered this nick. SO I can't reply to your PMs.
[05:59] <f4ramir> dregorth: But I highly appreciate your assistance :)
[05:59] <dregorth> ah np
[05:59] <dregorth> what driver do you have installed for it?
[05:59] <dregorth> i saw somewhere that the driver would be rt2500
[05:59] <dregorth> correct?
[06:00] <f4ramir> hmm how do I check?
[06:01] <f4ramir> lspci gives me: Ralink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
[06:01] <f4ramir> is that what you need?
[06:02] <dregorth> sorry was looking at some stuff
[06:02] <dregorth> ya that's good
[06:02] <dregorth> thx
[06:02] <f4ramir> The ubuntu wiki states that Ralink is a good thing as well :)
[06:03] <dregorth> usually works outta the box afaik
[06:03] <dregorth> i have rt2500
[06:03] <dregorth> :)
[06:03] <dregorth> never used static ip tho
[06:03] <dregorth> so i prolly won't be the best of help
[06:03] <dregorth> but i'm willing to spend time helping you figure this out
[06:03] <jarn> Is there a way to configure my printer so that it prints the date and page numbers on the page?
[06:03] <jarn> Is there a way to configure my printer so that it prints the date and page numbers on the page? It's an HP Deskjet 5740.
[06:04] <f4ramir> dregorth: ok, I'm going to enable DHCP and see what happens. I'll probably get disconnected though. bbiab.
[06:05] <dregorth> alright
[06:06] <dr_willis> jarn,  i belive i saw that setting in the printer-settings dialogs. BUT not all programs may let it do that. (that may been for text only printing)
[06:07] <jarn> dr_willis: I don't have a program called printer-settings.
[06:07] <kwoodard> so ... is automounting external ext3 hard drives impossible?
[06:08] <netdaemon> anyone use 64 bit kubunty
[06:08] <kwoodard> I can't seem to get the permissions right.  And no icons ever automatically show up on my desktop.
[06:08] <netdaemon> kubuntu*
[06:08] <dr_willis> i never said there was :) thers a printer-settings section/control center tools..    I tend touse the CUPS web interface. not kde's tools.
[06:08] <dr_willis> jarn,  you trying to get this for one specific program?
[06:08] <jarn> dr_willis: No.
[06:09] <jarn> dr_willis: I thought you meant there was a program called printer-settings, my bad.
[06:09] <jarn> dr_willis: How do I access he CUPS interface? I've been using the one in kcontrol.
[06:09] <dr_willis> its gotten where that feature is very program specific. since for example you wouldent want page # at the bottom of a 8x11 glossy print. :)
[06:09] <Lynoure> Could someone see if kpilot hangs for them too? (even before a device is plugged in, so no device needed for this)
[06:10] <dr_willis> cups is..  https://localhost:631  (i think)
[06:10] <kwoodard> Will someone please help me configure kubuntu to automount drives and get the permissions right?
[06:10] <dr_willis> or was that swat
[06:10] <Lynoure> (on feisty, that is)
[06:10] <dr_willis> cups.org has the docs   :) i got my printer set.. and its been rnning for the last 3 months. not had to go to its controlls in ages
[06:10] <jarn> dr_willis: That was right.
[06:11] <dr_willis> jarn,  im just not sure how 'enabled' the cups interface is under Feisty (or whatever ubuntu you are using) its been soort of disabled in the last few releases
[06:11] <jarn> dr_willis: Ah.
[06:11] <jarn> dr_willis: Also, do you know why my printer keeps turning off when it's not in use? It only does this in Linux, not in Windows.
[06:12] <dr_willis> power saveing mode?
[06:13] <jarn> dr_willis: Yeah, that's what I had guessed.  While for some people that's good, for me it's bad. I'd prefer if it would only turn off when I turned my computer off instead of after a few minutes of not being used.
[06:20] <netdaemon> anyone have openarena running on 64 bit kubuntu?
[06:20] <dr_willis> jarn,  Global warming!  And I need to hit it whenever I want to print in Linux.
[06:22] <dr_willis> abnd to answer kwood..    use the mount command, or edit fstab.. or that KDe control panel tool
[06:22] <dr_willis> heh heh
[06:22] <dr_willis> jarn,  odd. never seen that befor,
[06:22] <jarn> dr_willis: :(
[06:22] <l_r> lol
[06:22] <dr_willis> heck my printer is 10+ yrs old. and dont have it.
[06:22] <dr_willis> :)
[06:22] <klobster> how do I restart a service (acpi to be specific)
[06:22] <klobster> my printer is kinkos
[06:23] <dr_willis> sudo /etc/init.d/servicere restart
[06:23] <dr_willis> or similer
[06:23] <jarn> My printer is... I don't know how old. I got it free of freecycle.
[06:23] <jarn> My old one, in addition to not working in Linux, was such a pos that it barely worked in Windows.
[06:23] <jarn> So I found out the command line options to get the header I want.
[06:24] <dr_willis> sounds like a lexmark :)
[06:24] <klobster> dr_willis: thanks, why can I never remember that?
[06:24] <jarn> Is there a way to make it always use that?
[06:24] <jarn> It was a canon.
[06:24] <jarn> And a compaq.
[06:24] <jarn> Both printers were equally crappy.
[06:25] <dr_willis> heh. I will stick withmy old hp laserjet 6l for a while longer
[06:25] <jarn> Laserjet.
[06:25] <dr_willis> its outlasted like ... 9 pc's
[06:25] <jarn> Teh niceness.
[06:25] <jarn> So do you know how to use the options available through command-line printing when not in command-line printing?
[06:25] <jarn> Like can I enter somewhere what options I want to use?
[06:25] <klobster> dr_will the laserjet 6l!  i used to do tech support for her
[06:26] <jarn> I want to use the "prettyprint" option and the "outputorder=reverse" option.
[06:26] <dr_willis> printing under linux has gootten  sort of complex of late. I cant  rember the lat time  i printed fromteh command line.
[06:26] <dr_willis> there was that front end too, (xprint) i think that let ya do a lot of those tricks
[06:26] <dr_willis> !find xprint
[06:26] <ubotu> Found: libxcb-xprint0, libxcb-xprint0-dbg, libxcb-xprint0-dev, linuxprinting.org-ppds, linuxprinting.org-ppds-extra (and 10 others)
[06:26] <dr_willis> may be some other tools
[06:27] <dr_willis> xprint - Xprint - the X11 print system (binary)
[06:27] <jarn> Indeed.
[06:27] <jarn> Am installing it.
[06:27] <dr_willis> problem can get 6to be with using the old-style printing tools and the newer style.
[06:27] <jarn> Eh.
[06:27] <dr_willis> ive had somne real - oddness in the last 8+ years at times
[06:27] <jarn> It won't install anyway.
[06:27] <dr_willis> heh - it wont install here either.
[06:27] <dr_willis> odd
[06:28] <dr_willis> Depends: libx11-6 but it is not going to be installed or
[06:28] <jarn> Do you get that it conflicts with x11-common too?
[06:28] <jarn> Ah.
[06:28] <dr_willis> Depends: xprint-common but it is not going to be installed
[06:28] <jarn> I get that: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  x11-common: Conflicts: xprint (<= 1:0.1.0.alpha1-13) but 1:0.1.0.alpha1-10 is to be installed.
[06:28] <luiz> HELP !!!
[06:28] <dr_willis> x11-common: Conflicts: xprint (<= 1:0.1.0.alpha1-13) bu
[06:29] <dr_willis> !ask
[06:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:29] <luiz> I got the kubuntu SO, ... installed, conected to the internet, but cannot surf the web...
[06:30] <klobster> haha
[06:30] <klobster> luiz: J/k... can you ping something?  what is the problem?
[06:31] <dr_willis> this is a wired network connection? not wireless?
[06:32] <luiz> I am connected right now, I can chat in this program (Konversation) , but all connections to th internet, using other programs, fail...
[06:32] <klobster> what other programs?
[06:33] <klobster> knoqueror?
[06:33] <luiz> it's a wired connection, a dialled connection.
[06:33] <klobster> *konqueror?
[06:33] <luiz> yes...
[06:33] <luiz> konqueror fails
[06:33] <klobster> what error do you recieve?
[06:33] <luiz> wait...
[06:34] <dr_willis> so you are stating that just WEB sites fail?
[06:35] <klobster> dr_willis: thats what it sounds like, but I thought I would be polite.
[06:35] <luiz> tha messa ge is:  it wasn't possible connect to this machine...
[06:35] <klobster> what machine?
[06:36] <luiz> any web page I try to conect to ... for example: http://www.gmail.com/.
[06:37] <klobster> I want you to try thisin a command shell: ping www.gmail.com
[06:37] <luiz> ok...
[06:37] <klobster> luiz: I really need the exact wording of the error you recieve...
[06:38] <klobster> luiz: in konqueror, that is
[06:38] <luiz> this was the result:
[06:38] <luiz> --- googlemail.l.google.com ping statistics ---
[06:38] <luiz> 18 packets transmitted, 18 received, 0% packet loss, time 17068ms
[06:38] <luiz> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 267.946/277.707/315.731/11.775 ms
[06:39] <klobster> looks right for dialup
[06:39] <dr_willis> Hmm
[06:39] <Carnage\> Are you behind some firewall?
[06:39] <dr_willis> try ping  google.com            and try ping  <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:40] <klobster> !pastebin
[06:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:40] <dr_willis> try also ' http://<IP_ADDRESS>  '
[06:40] <klobster> luiz: I really need the exact wording of the error you recieve in konqueror  when you try to open gmail.com
[06:41] <luiz> I dont know about firewalls... I just installed the kubunto few minutes ago... I doesn't installed or configured any firewall...
[06:41] <klobster> luiz: what you are suggesting is that you are having browser issues, but you DO have internet access
[06:41] <dr_willis> that is very.. weird.
[06:41] <klobster> luiz: so we need to fix your browser.
[06:43] <klobster> luiz: so first, lets click the system menu icon and select home folder, let me know when it opens
[06:43] <luiz> well... I cant understad why am i talking to you  now... connected, and at the same time i cannot surf the web by konqueror...
[06:43] <jarn> luiz: Have you tried with a different browser?
[06:43] <dr_willis> luiz,  i wonder if your isp isent doing somthing.. odd...
[06:44] <dr_willis> luiz,  try  that    http://<IP_ADDRESS> yet?
[06:44] <luiz> thats the point... this is the only one browser kubuntu comes with installed.
[06:44] <luiz> i'll try.
[06:45] <dr_willis> i wonder if lynx or linkx is installed also
[06:45] <dr_willis> lynx , links, w3m
[06:45] <luiz> I'll look for it now...
[06:46] <luiz> no... no other browsers... just konqueror ...
[06:46] <dr_willis> Oh yea - firefox isentisntaleld by default either.
[06:46] <klobster> luiz: it isn't.  can you use konqueror to browse internal files on your computer?
[06:46] <dr_willis> i wonder what  'sudo apt-get update' would do. :)
[06:46] <jarn> luiz: You could install a different browser since you can access the internet but just not use Konqueror.
[06:46] <luiz> yes... internally, its wonderful...
[06:47] <jarn> I've never had good luck with Konqueror.
[06:47] <jarn> luiz: I don't remember how big Firefox is, but you could try installing it and see if that works.
[06:47] <klobster> luiz: did you try <IP_ADDRESS> as a web address?
[06:48] <klobster> jarn: it's large. opera would be better
[06:48] <jarn> klobster: Ah.
[06:48] <dr_willis> lets get him a link he can wget for opera ... :)
[06:48] <luiz> I forgot to try apt-get... but the kuuntu tool... add/remove programs... it doesn't work
[06:48] <dr_willis> apt-get update
[06:48] <dr_willis> dont work?
[06:49] <klobster> luiz: did you try <IP_ADDRESS> as a web address?
[06:49] <luiz> yes... still error message...
[06:49] <mefisto__> I want to set up a home network (just 2 machines) to share folders, printers, etc. Could someone suggest a howto?
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> samba i think can do that
[06:50] <dr_willis> http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=29341&location=148&nothanks=yes&sub=marine
[06:50] <dr_willis> hmm wonder if he can wget that
[06:50] <mefisto__> Admiral_Chicago: yes, I have samba installed on both machines, need a walkthrough to set things up
[06:51] <dr_willis> fdrf
[06:51] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay i'm not good with samba, i just know thats teh tool to use
[06:51] <jarn> dr_willis: Yep, that cen be wget..ted?
[06:51] <klobster> 5 megs, though...
[06:52] <dr_willis> thats the url to opera.
[06:52] <dr_willis> darn weird urls
[06:52] <jarn> klobster: Better than nothing, no?
[06:52] <klobster> luiz: can you copy and paste the error message you recieve in konqueror?
[06:52] <jarn> klobster: It will take awhile, but such is life.
[06:52] <jarn> klobster: Do you know if lynx comes preinstalled?
[06:53] <klobster> luiz: I understand you can't pastebin, I hope no one will mind...
[06:53] <klobster> jarn: it does not
[06:53] <jarn> klobster: Ah.
[06:53] <jarn> I would certainly hope noone minds, considering that's one of his problems!
[06:53] <luiz> wI can copy, but it'i in portuguese... iI'm brazillian...
[06:53] <jarn> It would be awful narrow-minded of someone to mind.
[06:53] <klobster> w3m is on my sys, but I do not know if it is standard
[06:54] <jarn> klobster: I have it. I don't remember ever installing it, but I might have.
[06:54] <klobster> luiz: I'll try to find a translation, but I still need the erorr msg
[06:54] <jarn> klobster: Actually, I think it's standard since when I try to remove it it removes ubuntu-base.
[06:55] <luiz> can someona sugest a package really easy of getting by apt-get?
[06:56] <Admiral_Chicago> luiz: yakuake
[06:56] <luiz> Um erro ocorreu ao carregar http://www.gmail.com:
[06:56] <luiz> No foi possvel conectar-se  mquina http://www.gmail.com/.
[06:56] <klobster> luiz: opera
[06:56] <jarn> Hrm.
[06:57] <klobster> luiz: can you do this: type w3m www.gmail.com and let me know what happens (might take a bit)
[06:57] <jarn> I know a little bit of Spanish. It's kind of similar to Portugese and, if I'm understanding it correctly, it's saying exactly what he said it is.
[06:58] <luiz> I would be very happy if there was ANY browser i could get installed... the fact is that i cannot get no one, cause my connection don let me do so...
[06:58] <dr_willis> or telnet to www.gmail.com
[06:58] <jarn> luiz: You can't apt-get?
[06:59] <luiz> no...
[06:59] <klobster> luiz: w3m is a browser, although it is text only... moment while I research
[06:59] <luiz> apt-get says... impossible to find package...
[07:00] <luiz> ahhhhh wha's happening?????
[07:00] <dr_willis> luiz,  im tempted to tell ya to try out a Linux Live CD or 2 or 3. BUT on dialup.. egads...
[07:00] <dr_willis> PuppyLinux is like a 50mb download i think. :)
[07:00] <luiz> w3m???
[07:01] <jarn> dr_willis: That's still huge over dialup.
[07:01] <dr_willis> but it would be the ultimate test.. if he has same issue with PuppyLinux. then we know its some isp issue.
[07:01] <jarn> dr_willis: True.
[07:01] <dr_willis> I cant imagine how he got to freenode. and  cant resplove other names
[07:01] <dr_willis> Unless the irc client has the ip#'s in the server list
[07:02] <jarn> dr_willis: I could understand the konqueror being weird, but apt-get surprises me.  I know it's not normal behavior, but it's actually slow. If I download anything through it, I download at less than 1% of normal speed. Pages take forever to load and it crashes frequently.
[07:02] <jarn> That's why I switched to Firefox.
[07:03] <luiz> well... I tried ubuntu. and... OK... the connection works wonderfully... but in kubuntu... NO...
[07:03] <bky> what package would freeimage be in?
[07:03] <dr_willis> jarn,  cant say that ivbe ever had those issues.
[07:03] <dr_willis> luiz,  thats EVEN weirder now...
[07:03] <jarn> dr_willis: Yeah. It's not normal behavior, but it happened to me.
[07:04] <jarn> luiz: If you switch back to gnome, does it still work? Or did that stop working too once you installed kde?
[07:04] <dr_willis> How are you accessing the dialup? what program?
[07:05] <klobster> luiz: how are you opening konqueror.  and what did w3m do?
[07:06] <luiz> no... i had installed kubuntu... used it for a week , everything working fine... so I decided to uninstal ubuntu and install kubuntu...
[07:06] <luiz> now... here am I...
[07:06] <dr_willis> luiz,  hmm..   you got a ubuntu live cd, and a kubuntu live cd?
[07:07] <rookie1_1998> i have a gparted related question any one knows where i should go
[07:07] <klobster> luiz: next time you can just install the kde-desktop if you want to switch, it will save time.  in fact you _could_ install gnome-desktop, if you think ubuntu will fix your internet issue
[07:07] <luiz> I tried using KPPP, it doesn't worked... so I reconfigured ppp-config, and conecct by the (pon) command.
[07:08] <klobster> luiz: how are you opening konqueror?
[07:08] <Jucato> (there's no kde-desktop package, only kubuntu-desktop package *or* kde package)
[07:08] <luiz> yes... both SOs... Ubuntu worked fine... but kubuntu oesn't work...
[07:09] <dr_willis> Odd....
[07:09] <luiz> it is not in live state... it's alread installed im my pc...
[07:09] <klobster> luiz did you try other websites, or only gmail?
[07:09] <dr_willis> you could always install  ubuntu from the live cd, and then use the kubuntu cd to install the kubuntu-desktop packages I guess.
[07:10] <luiz> I tryed many others...
[07:10] <Jucato> dr_willis: only if using the alternate install cd
[07:10] <Jucato> (not the desktop/live cd)
[07:10] <luiz> i used the kubuntu live cd...
[07:11] <dr_willis> he couldent copy the package files over to /var/apt  and then isntall?
[07:11] <Jucato> dr_willis: from the live cd? nope. there are no .deb packages on it
[07:12] <dr_willis> Oh the Humnity!
[07:12] <dr_willis> Where are they then? heh
[07:12] <Jucato> only available on the alternate install cd.
[07:13] <dr_willis> so the live cd installs some sort of 'system image' then eh? Ive rarely used the livecd installer
[07:13] <Jucato> dr_willis: it basically copies what's on the Live CD, minus QtParted and Ubiquity
[07:13] <luiz> what coud be happening? I am connected, talking to you guys, but cannot acess a web page...
[07:14] <ubunturos> luiz: no DNS resolution?
[07:14] <Jucato> luiz: um... wild guess. DNS issue (in /etc/resolv.conf)
[07:14] <klobster> luiz: ok try this: and tell me what happens: sudo konqueror gmail.com
[07:14] <luiz> ok...
[07:15] <jarn> klobster: Shouldn't he use kdesu?
[07:15] <Jucato> he should
[07:16] <luiz> ops... I can' think what to say... IT WORKED... it was a permission problem?
[07:16] <dr_willis> it just gets weird er and weirder...
[07:16] <dr_willis> i wonder if its a dialup/group/user issue?
[07:16] <Jucato> or as Alice would say, "curiouser and curiouser"
[07:16] <dr_willis> but WHY dident 'sudo apt-get update' work then?
[07:16] <klobster> luiz: I was hoping you would say it did NOT work, because then i could say i was at a loss.  it's a kde thing, im afraid.  give me a sec on a fix
[07:17] <luiz> ok... sudo konqueror gmail worked... what do I heve to do now?
[07:17] <klobster> luiz: how many users have you set up?
[07:17] <Jucato> wait. so IRC and apt-get both work? but not web browsing?
[07:17] <luiz> only one...
[07:17] <klobster> jucato: yup
[07:17] <Jucato> try creating a new user and login to that and check web browsing
[07:18] <luiz> only irc work...
[07:18] <klobster> jucato: that should work
[07:18] <luiz> why sudo konqueror gmail worked?
[07:18] <Jucato> luiz: because it is running konqueror as root, not as your user
[07:19] <luiz> ah... so how can I make my user work?
[07:22] <luiz> hello...
[07:22] <klobster> luiz: can you do: mv ~/.kde/share/config/kio_httprc ~/.kde/share/config/kio_httprc.bak
[07:22] <luiz> at konsole?
[07:22] <klobster> and: mv ~/.kde/share/config/Kioslaverc ~/.kde/share/config/Kioslaverc.bak
[07:22] <klobster> yes in konsole
[07:23] <luiz> the first one than the other, correct?
[07:24] <klobster> either or
[07:24] <luiz> ok.
[07:25] <luiz> I entered the first command... no messages in result.
[07:25] <luiz> ...
[07:25] <klobster> good
[07:26] <klobster> you should recieve no msg
[07:27] <jwallingford> how do i update thunderbird to version 2.0?
[07:27] <klobster> luiz?
[07:29] <luiz> do I have to enter that second command?
[07:30] <klobster> yes
[07:30] <dregorth> Hobbsee: sorry about the away message thing
[07:30] <dregorth> Hobbsee: i shoulda read the rules a lil' more closely heh
[07:30] <Hobbsee> dregorth: no problem.  assuming it's off now :)
[07:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Hobbsee: wielding the sword of power eh?
[07:31] <dregorth> Hobbsee: doing that right now. first time using konversation and didn't know it'd do that cuz i had to go away and set the option quickly without looking at it
[07:31] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: stick of power, more probably :)
[07:31] <Hobbsee> dregorth: ahh.  it's turned off by default, thank goodness.
[07:31] <klobster> luiz: have you entered the second command yet?
[07:32] <Hobbsee> dregorth: you'll see there's a connection, set away globally, which wont produce that message unless you tell it to
[07:32] <dregorth> Hobbsee: that's what i get for having my bro set it up
[07:32] <dregorth> don't i feel like a noob :S
[07:32] <Jucato> Hobbsee: you're running Konvi SVN aren't you?
[07:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: no, she definetly carries a sword like RMS...
[07:32] <Jucato> hehe ;)
[07:32] <luiz> yes...... that's the error message: Impossible to make stat in .... archive or directory inesistent
[07:33] <luiz> oh... my english fails...
[07:33] <Jucato> klobster: the second command looks a bit wrong.  I'll try again...
[07:34] <Jucato> Hobbsee: figured. only the SVN version has the Connection menu. on 1.0.1 it's still File menu :)
[07:34] <Hobbsee> :)
[07:34] <dregorth> just not all that great when it comes to things i know very little about
[07:34] <Hobbsee> ahhh...
[07:34] <Hobbsee> well, file then
[07:34] <klobster> luiz: try this
[07:34] <Hobbsee> dregorth: you'll learn :)
[07:35] <dregorth> Hobbsee: well, thanks for the encouragement
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: for real? awesome...
[07:35] <dregorth> :)
[07:35] <klobster> and: mv ~/.kde/share/config/kioslaverc ~/.kde/share/config/kioslaverc.bak
[07:35] <Hobbsee> Jucato: nice!
[07:35] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: not committing it, but rather poking the dev to change it and suggesting the name :)
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> ah lol.
[07:35] <Jucato> (but only because there was no other logical name, but we're still thinking about it)
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> bbiab, programming my life away.
[07:35] <Jucato> hehe :)
[07:36] <luiz> Kind of stupid question, but... do I have to type "and" too?
[07:37] <klobster> no, no and
[07:37] <luiz> ok...
[07:37] <klobster> luiz: sorry, I should have cut that out the scond time
[07:38] <luiz> I entered the command, and no error massages.
[07:38] <dregorth> i want everyone's input on this. who of you has websites that you check daily for gnu/linux news and updates (especially relating to kubuntu info)? also, which sites might those be?
[07:38] <rollerskatejamms> Anybody know why my nvidia card might only work with vesa
[07:38] <rollerskatejamms> nv and nvidia wont work
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> dregorth: http://planetkde.org/ planet.ubuntu.com ... but this belongs in #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:39] <klobster> dregorth: /.
[07:39] <klobster> luiz: done?
[07:39] <dregorth> Admiral_Chicago: sorry
[07:39] <dregorth> this day gets greater and greater by the minute
[07:39] <luiz> yes... no erro messages...
[07:40] <klobster> ok, we need to restart kde.  you can log off and do a ctrl-alt-bksp or you can reboot, your choice
[07:40] <klobster> luiz: ^
[07:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[07:41] <luiz> ok... I'lll come back soon...
[07:41] <klobster> hello, dr^H^H milhouse!
[07:41] <klobster> luiz: me too, cacer calls...
[07:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: I stumbled across your website lately, is it possible to convert to kde-core without a fresh start?
[07:42] <luiz> I'm back...
[07:43] <klobster> me too
[07:44] <luiz> ok... what's next?
[07:44] <klobster> luiz:try konqueror gmail.com in the konsole
[07:45] <luiz> the problem still happens...
[07:45] <MilhousePunkRock> luiz: What is the problem?
[07:46] <Zaikonaut> after resuming from hibernate, there are two processes (kacpid and kacpi_notify) which keep more than 80% of my processor busy. does anybody know how i can work around this ubuntu bug?
[07:46] <luiz> I can connect, by dialled conection, talk to you here, bur konqueror don't conects to websites, neither apt-get works...
[07:47] <klobster> luiz: Im at a loss.  if you create another user, it _should be able to access the web.  it's a permissions issue, but I cant resolve without more research
[07:47] <MilhousePunkRock> luiz: Did you check if it's some proxy issue?
[07:48] <klobster> luiz: are you sure apt-get does not work?
[07:48] <luiz> ok... thanks A LOT ... Ill try this solution...
[07:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Zaikonaut: Does it stay that way?
[07:48] <Zaikonaut> MilhousePunkRock: it does
[07:48] <luiz> If you get any solution<EMAIL_ADDRESS>, ok?
[07:49] <klobster> MilhousePunkrock: luiz cannot access the web with konqueror only.
[07:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Zaikonaut: Because those two are obviously part of the power management
[07:49] <klobster> luiz: wait
[07:49] <luiz> ops<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:49] <luiz> waiting...
[07:49] <klobster> luiz: can you try one more thing? in konsole type konqueror ftp://ling.lll.hawaii.edu/
[07:49] <Zaikonaut> MilhousePunkRock: yeah, it looks like power management is somehow damaged by my using hibernate
[07:49] <luiz> ok...
[07:50] <klobster> zaikonaut: how many kernels do this?
[07:50] <luiz> it seems that worked...
[07:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Zaikonaut: Power management is a really tricky thing... I assume it's a laptop we are talking about? Maybe you could check if there is an IRC channel for it?
[07:51] <luiz> i cam see some files...
[07:51] <Zaikonaut> klobster: i tested only two
[07:51] <MilhousePunkRock> luiz: Check the control center if there is some proxy set
[07:51] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: yes. check this out: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core
[07:52] <klobster> luiz: ok that means it is an http issue, thank you that helps
[07:53] <klobster> MilhousePunkRock: it's only with http and only in konqueror
[07:53] <luiz> no proxy sets.. it's setted to connect directilly to internet.
[07:53] <klobster> MilhousePunkRock: kdesu konqueror works
[07:53] <klobster> MilhousePunkRock: it's a fun one, huh?
[07:54] <luiz> no socks enabled too...
[07:54] <MilhousePunkRock> It was worth a try, wasn't it...
[07:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: Hmm, that looks like it is going to uninstall just about everything...
[07:55] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: that's the point. it will only leave a very minimal system. that's kde-core
[07:55] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: then you try to build your desired system on top of that, adding only the stuff you need and want
[07:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: I have uninstalled pretty much everything I do not need, does that have the same effect?
[07:55] <Jucato> more or less
[07:56] <MilhousePunkRock> fair enough
[07:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a way to get rid of that korganizer notification thing in the system area?
[07:57] <dregorth> ya. use save session and just save your session when you select to quit that daemon
[07:57] <dregorth> that's how i solved it
[07:57] <klobster> luiz: i will look into it and email you if I can solve.
[07:57] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: i could point you to the thread as soon as i find it if you want
[07:57] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: That'd be great
[07:58] <klobster> luiz: in the mean time create a new user; it should be able to access the web.
[07:58] <klobster> luiz: and I believe apt-get _does_ work, but we didn't do a proper test of it
[07:58] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3081007.0
[07:58] <UFFFFFF> may I ask a qustion?
[07:58] <klobster> !ask
[07:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> UFFFFFF: go for it
[07:59] <UFFFFFF> how to install the file Toshiba_GL1010_CUPS.ppd
[07:59] <luiz> ok... my email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>whith the number one at tha and of my name, don't forget... hehe  lol
[08:00] <UFFFFFF> Admiral: how to install the file Toshiba_GL1010_CUPS.ppd?
[08:01] <virusa> hi al
[08:01] <virusa> hello from georgia
[08:01] <Maxdamantus> Anyone here managed to get 2X Application Server Client/Server working properly?
[08:01] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: that help at all?
[08:02] <virusa> can you help me with compilation
[08:02] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: Still reading
[08:02] <Maxdamantus> Whenever I try, it shows me the whole desktop, instead of loading the program and displaying it seperately.
[08:03] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: k
[08:07] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: I followed Jucato's hint and edited the korgac.desktop... Let me check if it works...
[08:11] <Zaikonaut> on the nvidia drivers page, what is the driver that i can use for the following soundcard: "00:05.0 audio device: nvidia corporation mcp61 high definition audio (rev a2)"
[08:14] <MilhousePunkRock> That brings up another issue that feisty delivered: I can
[08:14] <MilhousePunkRock> not log out anymore, KDM won't come up....
[08:15] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: weird...
[08:16] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: umm did that come up because of the attempted fix for the daemon or no?
[08:17] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: no... I guess the daemon will be there, since I kmail is launched autoatically...
[08:18] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: ah ok well as long as you're happy with it. never worked with kmail so didn't know it did that
[08:19] <MilhousePunkRock> maybe if I used KMail without KOrganizer, since I do not really need the rest...
[08:20] <dregorth> seems plausible but i don't wanna tell you to try it and then it screw something up lol
[08:20] <dregorth> just never worked with kmail so didn't know how it worked and whether it needed korganizer daemon running or what the deal was
[08:23] <MilhousePunkRock> To get the names right now: I just launched KMail directly and not from Kontact, now it came up with the KOrganizer daemon...
[08:24] <MilhousePunkRock> WITHOUT that is, not with
[08:25] <dregorth> ok so it didn't pop up when opening kmail
[08:25] <dregorth> right? lol
[08:26] <MilhousePunkRock> let's hope it stays that way...
[08:26] <dregorth> good
[08:26] <dregorth> if that first way doesn't work then try the second
[08:26] <dregorth> the second one worked for me and haven't had probs since :)
[08:27] <MilhousePunkRock> I might get am Palm some day again, that's when Kontact will come in handy again...
[08:27] <dregorth> ya those are pretty handy
[08:27] <dregorth> i prolly won't get one for a while tho as i wouldn't have much of a need for one nowadays
[08:27] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there any chance to sync a PocketPC with linux at all?
[08:28] <dregorth> i'm sure it's plausible somehow but have no idea heh
[08:28] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: How much of the stuff we have do we really need?
[08:28] <dregorth> not much lol
[08:31] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: I might use a palm as a remote control for Amarok on my desktop with bluetooth... :D
[08:36] <kraut> moin
[08:37] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: that'd be awesome. never thought of doing that before :D
[08:38] <dregorth> i had a palm a few years ago (pretty darn old one too) and i used it as a remote for the tv hehe
[08:38] <dregorth> good ol' IR
[08:39] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: I saw a plugin/skript for Amarok that would enable a web interface controllable via http
[08:40] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: wow there is so much i've yet to learn about amarok lol
[08:40] <dregorth> just more reason to complete my move to strictly feisty
[08:41] <dregorth> and take away the xp partition to feed to it :D
[08:46] <nbcb> hi i just bought a razor optical 7 buttons, how do i configure the 7 buttons, or must i install any drivers for it?
[08:48] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: well time for me to get goin. good talking with ya! :D
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: I am about to leave too... Have a good one, tty next time
[08:55] <bulwynkl> !mdadm
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdadm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <plugs> If i cut the number-pad section of my keyboard off, will the rest still work?
[08:59] <baudthief> plugs: yep
[09:00] <baudthief> well depends how clean the cut is, but yep
[09:00] <plugs> hmm...
[09:00] <_doswell> amyrose,do you know  about Linux installation stuff?
[09:00] <plugs> thanx baudthief
[09:00] <baudthief> np
[09:01] <bulwynkl> hey all, I've got a failed upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 - what are my options? can I reinstall kubuntu from the CDs while keeping my userland settings? Or do I need to do a fresh install somewhere else (I was going to add another 300GB disk anyway). if the latter, how do I backup and restore my stuff so that I have as little reconfiguration to do as possible?
[09:01] <bulwynkl> any hints would be appreciated
[09:01] <bulwynkl> !reinstall
[09:01] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>.  WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[09:01] <AmyRose> !rules | _doswell
[09:01] <ubotu> _doswell: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:02] <_doswell> ok, i don't understand
[09:03] <tine> join
[09:03] <baudthief> bulwynkl: heh I'm giving up, too many issues I cant find answers to with ubuntu (severe video tearing even when vsync/vblank is enabled (makes it impossible to watch vids), clipboard clears when app is closed (really annoying!), VERY poor network performance, any fullscreen games randomly crash out of fullscreen, etc)
[09:03] <baudthief> might just move back to windows :(
[09:04] <baudthief> I'm really gonna miss beryl, evolution and eyecandy though
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: what problems are you having
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i see
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> perhaps related to your video card on some of them
[09:07] <_doswell> anyone, Iinstalled edubuntu  80% the other day, but"low memory mode"came up. I shut down the install,then my whole system went blank
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i don't sleep...
[09:08] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: teach me how to do that please!!!!
[09:08] <baudthief> Admiral_Chicago: Funny though, I actually bought this card specifically to run ubuntu :p
[09:08] <Jucato> sleep is so counterproductive..
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> haha, i dunno, i'm a night person really
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: what video card?
[09:09] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: I seem to be a late afternoon to early night person :/
[09:10] <_doswell> uboto, where are these rules?
[09:10] <Jucato> !ubotu | _doswell
[09:10] <ubotu> _doswell: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:10] <baudthief> Admiral_Chicago:  nVidia 7600GS
[09:11] <baudthief> had an ATi X700 before that I couldn't get to work well with feisty + beryl, so I threw it out and bought a nVidia heh
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> do you use the nvidia driver...ah yes probably for beryl
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm i have a Fx 5200 that runs perfectly...
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> well not perfectly but i have no probel
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: sudo dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> did you ever run that? it may help
[09:12] <baudthief> Admiral_Chicago: never tried, what if it breaks the install?
[09:13] <Jucato> it won't break the install. worst thing that could happen is that X won't get back up, but that can be easily solved too.
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> it wont
[09:13] <Jucato> don't you just love modularity? :)
[09:13] <hangthedj> baudthief: backup your xorg.conf
[09:14] <baudthief> alright backed up, gonna give it a shot
[09:15] <baudthief> It's asking for the x-server driver, do I just select nvidia?
[09:15] <_doswell> amyrose, where are oyur rules?
[09:15] <_doswell> your
[09:18] <AmyRose> [02:17]  <-- _doswell has left this channel ("Konversation terminated!"). <-- :)
[09:19] <Jucato> AmyRose: hm?
[09:19] <AmyRose> Jucato: He was annoying me ;)
[09:19] <Jucato> er where? didn't see it in the channel
[09:19] <KevinAlaska> I am always annoying you.. ;P
[09:20] <KevinAlaska> speaking of annoying you.. :)
[09:21] <KevinAlaska> what is the easist way to format and mount a HDD in Kubuntu that is currently formated NTFS and is internal IDE2 master? :)
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: yes
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry i didn't see it
[09:22] <Jucato> KevinAlaska: QtParted or GParted.
[09:22] <KevinAlaska> ohhh.. okay.. I think I have that installed. :)
[09:22] <KevinAlaska> be back in a few... :)  and thanks again!  (((walks to other puter)))
[09:23] <baudthief> Admiral_Chicago: finished reconfiguring, do I just restart and test?
[09:24] <baudthief> to be safe I manually entered all the technical specs of the monitor (horizontal / vertical scan rates, etc)
[09:25] <hangthedj> baudthief: you should just be able to do (control+alt+backspace) to restart X
[09:26] <baudthief> alright, trying, wish me luck!
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> yea do that
[09:28] <KevinAlaska> woot.. thank you Jucato... if you had a dime for each time you helped me.. you would ... be able to go to lunch .... in maybe another week.. :)  anyhow.. you have helped alot! Thank you again! ;)
[09:28] <Jucato> heh you're welcome :)
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> KevinAlaska: Jucato is really a very intelligent robot.
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: but you can paypal me some dimes if you wish :)
[09:29] <Jucato> heh you're welcome :)
[09:29] <Jucato> heh you're welcome :)
[09:29] <KevinAlaska> lol.. yeah.. where can I get a robot like that for my own?! sharper image?
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> yes.
[09:31] <baudthief> No luck :(
[09:31] <baudthief> it actually broke beryl, video tearing was far worse (even when just dragging windows)
[09:31] <flake> why is no one using fedora
[09:31] <baudthief> so I restored xorg.conf and I'm now back to square1
[09:31] <flake> maybe i'm exaggerating
[09:31] <n8k99> flake ask that in #fedora
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> yum is probably part of the reason...
[09:32] <flake> did it turn yucky
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> it has been in under heavy development for a while though
[09:33] <hangthedj> how come yum takes like an hour to resolve dependencies?
[09:33] <baudthief> flake: all window decorations disappeared, just left with white frameborders, nothing is draggable, and the console window is just a white box that doesnt allow interaction
[09:34] <flake> i was just curious, i look at the distrowatch and see it faalling
[09:34] <baudthief> or was that question not directed at me :p
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: look at the beryl page, they have options for fixing it..
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> let me grab the link
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_nVidia#My_windows_don.27t_have_any_decorations_.28title_bar.2C_resize_handles.2C_minimize.2Fmaximize.2Fclose_buttons.29
[09:36] <baudthief> Admiral_Chicago: Used that article to fix it a while ago, the borders were restored by the video tearing still remains (which is the main problem, I can't watch videos or anything)
[09:36] <baudthief> *but the
[09:36] <baudthief> problem is still there even when beryl isn't used
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you mean video tearing?
[09:37] <hangthedj> what video engine are you using?
[09:37] <baudthief> when you move windows sideways, or you play a video with a fast action scene, it's "torn" - a bit hard to explain, it's like you've cut the bottom half of the screen, and moved it 20px to the left (or random px)
[09:38] <baudthief> hangthedj: glx
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: no you probably use xine...
[09:39] <baudthief> oh sorry, didn't understand the question
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i see what you mean...
[09:39] <ph8> can anyone tell me how to add startup programs like beryl-manager to my session? I can't find the option anywhere!
[09:39] <baudthief> it's not just video playback though, it's everything
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> ph8: ~/.kde/Autostart
[09:39] <ph8> thx
[09:40] <baudthief> heh looks like there really is no solution ;\
[09:40] <ph8> Admiral_Chicago: I have nothing in there right now - how do the files need to be formatted?
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> you create a link
[09:40] <ph8> ln -s to the exe?
[09:40] <hangthedj> or a script
[09:40] <ph8> the executable rather :p
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> ph8: you can do it graphically...
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: maybe baudthief needs to set his default depth down?
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> !autostart
[09:42] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, no link to a page...
[09:42] <Tm_T> hi kids
[09:42] <baudthief> Admiral_Chicago: tried changing the depth repeatedly
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> hey there Tm_T
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> really? to 16
[09:43] <baudthief> changed resolutions, sync settings, pretty much everything!
[09:43] <baudthief> yup tried 16, even if that worked, it's a bit of a waste to keep it at 16bpp!
[09:46] <baudthief> I want to try one last option before giving up
[09:46] <baudthief> A *COMPLETE* re-install of everything. But I want a way to restore everything, is there a decent "ghost" substitute for linux?
[09:46] <baudthief> *in case it doesnt work out
[09:47] <baudthief> it took me ages to get to this point, heaps of little tweaks to get everything up and running
[09:47] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: sorry kinda busy. not sure about the default depth
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: there is away...
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> well to restore your installed programs...
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> give me a second...
[09:50] <baudthief> heh i'm more worried about the printer drivers etc, they were a pain ;\
[09:50] <baudthief> thanks
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: http://j1m.net/chi-ubuntu/2007/05/12/ok-instead-of-apt-on-cd/
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> that is a good way to restore your packages.
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> as for the printer drivers, not sure
[09:52] <baudthief> that's a start! thanks
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> good luck, sorry i can't be of more help, i have a program to churn out
[09:53] <baudthief> heh no worries, I gotta think about it carefully ;\
[09:54] <baudthief> thanks for your time
[09:54] <Admiral_Chicago> np
[09:55] <hangthedj> you could just back them up manually, i think the directory is /usr/share/ppd
[10:01] <Timsen> hi, i use feisty and need to use the mysql-server-4.1, I installed that package but the version shows me that it uses the version 5.0
[10:04] <premier_> could somebody recomend a dvd ripping program? I've tried dvd::rip and acid rip
[10:04] <hangthedj> !k9copy
[10:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:05] <hangthedj> Timsen: sudo apt-get install mysql-server-4.1
[10:06] <Timsen> yes I installed the package already but how can I explicitly use it
[10:06] <Timsen> if I check the version of the running server it shows me the 5.0
[10:07] <premier_> lol, the "cancel" button says "annuler"... is this a german program?
[10:07] <hangthedj> premier_: yes but the rest is in english
[10:07] <_4strO> premier_: it's french ;)
[10:08] <flowingfire> .
[10:08] <premier_> hangthedj: its no big deal, I just think its cool... I'm using an international operating system
[10:09] <hangthedj> Timsen: sorry read the original question to fast. it looks the mysql-server package is 5.0 so maybe try apt-get remove mysql-server mysql-server-5.0 && apt-get install mysql-server-4.1? i'm not sure.
[10:11] <premier_> hey, my external taskbar just disappeared
[10:11] <premier_> It happened once before, I have no idea why
[10:11] <flowingfire> Premier-- funny... I'm using an operating system with a South African name programmed by people all over the world that isn't subject to the patent laws of my country. lovely. :)
[10:12] <premier_> flowingfire: really?  I'm using an American OS, because I'm an American!  Only an American OS can do things like Ubuntu can!
[10:12] <premier_> you should use an American OS
[10:13] <flowingfire> LOL
[10:13] <hangthedj> !ubuntu
[10:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[10:14] <premier_> okay, thats weird... now my external taskbar is on top of my regular taskbar
[10:14] <premier_> I'm sorry, but kde needs to replace kicker... I can't wait until kde4 betas start coming out
[10:14] <flowingfire> kde4 .... yum...
[10:14] <flowingfire> i mean apt-get
[10:15] <flowingfire> lol
[10:15] <premier_> !botsnack
[10:15] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[10:15] <flowingfire> hahahahaaha
[10:15] <premier_> ubotu is so fun, watch this
[10:15] <premier_> !bill gates
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bill gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <premier_> !anything
[10:15] <flowingfire> gawd c:/dos.  c:/dos run.
[10:15] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[10:16] <_4strO> ;o
[10:16] <Jucato> !botabuse | premier_
[10:16] <ubotu> premier_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:16] <flowingfire> ROTFL
[10:17] <premier_> flowing fire, you should message ubotu and say everything I said... for some reason ubotu messaged me saying he wasn't smart
[10:17] <elcuco> hi, whats the shortcut for katapult?
[10:17] <flowingfire> heh.
[10:17] <_4strO> alt-space
[10:17] <elcuco>  that is the window menu, kwin
[10:17] <flowingfire> !sex
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <_4strO> unluck
[10:18] <Jucato> elcuco: then you have probably changed the default. Alt+F3 is the window menu
[10:18] <Jucato> Alt+Space is for Katapult
[10:18] <elcuco> how do i change the shortcut for katapult?
[10:18] <Jucato> elcuco: Alt+Space no longer launches it?
[10:19] <jean> hello
[10:19] <_4strO> !upgrade
[10:19] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[10:19] <elcuco> no, not even after i changed the shortcut for the window menu back to alt+f3
[10:19] <flowingfire> !repositories
[10:19] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:20] <jean> is there a way to clean the internet data of konqueror like in firefox?
[10:20] <Jucato> elcuco: press alt+f2, type in "dcop katapult Katapult showLauncher" then press Ctrl+C
[10:21] <KevinAlaska> KELP!  I mean HELP!  when I get a permission denied on a 'sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/backup' what could be the problem there? :S
[10:21] <elcuco> i needed to restart katapul, now it does work
[10:22] <Jucato> ok
[10:22] <KevinAlaska> ok.... humm?  something following that 'ok' word? :)
[10:23] <_4strO> KevinAlaska: we need more information
[10:23] <KevinAlaska> like some kind of glorous moment of linux wisdom ...
[10:23] <Jucato> er was responding to elcuco :)
[10:23] <KevinAlaska> there it is.. I KNEW it! :)
[10:23] <Jucato> what is?
[10:23] <KevinAlaska> ahh.. heh. sorry. :P
[10:24] <Jucato> KevinAlaska: like what _4strO said, more info would be nice
[10:24] <KevinAlaska> I am growing with a dependency on you for help.. you know you can never take time off off of here.... you know that right!?  :P
[10:24] <KevinAlaska> how can I get that info?
[10:25] <KevinAlaska> did that QTparted .. primary partition and only one partition on there.. ext 3
[10:25] <ltb_emonkey> morghn
[10:25] <KevinAlaska> labeled backup
[10:25] <Jucato> hm..
[10:26] <maetzje> Hoi! Mann, is das so dmlich. Kein Download-Link fr aMSN funzt...
[10:26] <maetzje> Hat jemand was funktionierendes?
[10:26] <_4strO> !de | maetzje
[10:26] <ubotu> maetzje: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:27] <KevinAlaska> sweet.. ubotu speaks german. :)
[10:27] <_4strO> KevinAlaska: did you do something about the user and group management ?
[10:27] <hangthedj> !us
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about us - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <maetzje> Uh, sorry :) I do not found a functional aMSN-Download-Link.
[10:27] <maetzje> F...
[10:27] <KevinAlaska> Noo o o  o  o    o.... do not think so ever.
[10:27] <maetzje> But this is not soooo important.
[10:28] <_4strO> maetzje: sudo apt-get install amsn ?
[10:28] <maetzje> I want just to try "Konversation" :)
[10:28] <maetzje> Oh.. uh.. h... i want to see... moment.
[10:28] <smithw> Hello everyone... I'm trying to get a resolution of 1280x960 on my 15" monitor on my newly installed Kubuntu 7.04, but that has been a nightmare. The drivers are OK (xorg's log reports even direct rendering working), I know for a fact that the monitor supports it (windows and another linux distros have suceeded), but I tried half a dozen different modelines and none of them have worked. I have set UseEDID to False, and I can provide xorg
[10:28] <smithw> 's log if needed (although it just reports that the resolution is not "validated").   I had GREAT luck with he program called Envy .. works on ATI and nVidia
[10:29] <_4strO> smithw: have you look into your xorg.conf ?
[10:29] <maetzje> But i am not unhealby
[10:30] <chijin> smithw: i know some people with an ati card have had trouble setting the 1280x960 and finally failing at it.. it has something to do with the xorg 7.2 and maybe the drivers too
[10:30] <smithw> KevinAlaska, I'll google it...
[10:30] <KevinAlaska> I can get the address.. i have it here.. one sec
[10:31] <KevinAlaska> smithw it is www.albertomilone.com
[10:31] <smithw> _4strO, I've have severely changed it... Tried half a dozen modelines calculators, all of them provided different results and none suceeded.
[10:31] <maetzje> #logout
[10:31] <KevinAlaska> I googled a website that gave me a nice walk through on it a test drive if you will.. was on the first page of the google search
[10:31] <smithw> chijin, well... guess I'm lucky to use a nvidia card, then...
[10:32] <_4strO> smithw: can you paste the file ?
[10:32] <smithw> KevinAlaska, Thanks!
[10:32] <smithw> _4strO, yep. which pastebin?
[10:32] <KevinAlaska> best of luck on it
[10:32] <_4strO> !paste
[10:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:32] <KevinAlaska> I was inpressed with it.
[10:33] <chijin> smithw: that issue might be there with a nvidia card too :P
[10:33] <smithw> _4strO, ok... I'll be back in two minutes, I'll start X on a 1024x768 resolution and come back from there (I'm on another computer right now)
[10:33] <_4strO> ok
[10:34] <KevinAlaska> jucato, any ideas... actually I am thinking of just logging in for the night and getting a full nights sleep for the first time this week.. so I will just do that.. thank you everone and best wishes on your trouble shooting
[10:34] <smithw> chijin, I pray to heavens for you to be wrong... :p
[10:34] <smithw> brb
[10:37] <pawitp> smithw, I have a mx 440 right next to me
[10:38] <smithw> !paste
[10:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:40] <smithw> pawitp: do you know a 1280x960 modeline that works on a 15" monitor?