[02:32] <DanaG> 2>&1 pulseaudio --verbose | tail -n2
[02:32] <DanaG> I: main.c: Daemon startup complete.
[02:32] <DanaG> I: module-alsa-source.c: *** ALSA-XRUN (capture) ***
[02:32] <DanaG> after that, segfault.
[02:39] <DanaG> pulseaudio: pcm_params.c:187: snd_pcm_hw_param_get_min: Assertion `!snd_interval_empty(i)' failed.
[02:39] <DanaG> Aborted
[02:44] <DanaG> Hmm, I messed with my .asoundrc for a while, changing "route" to "plug", or vice versa, and maybe now it works -- no crash or abort.
[02:45] <DanaG> Yeah, now it works.
[02:46] <DanaG> I also have to preload a dmix-using Pulse sink that will be given the same name the hal-detected hw:0 would use.
[03:53] <DigitalNinja> What's the story on gibben
[03:53] <DigitalNinja> Anyone install it yet
[03:54] <DigitalNinja> oh
[03:54] <DigitalNinja> make that gibbon
[05:06] <cables> Is gksu hanging a known issue with Gutsy?
[05:16] <cables> Sorry, network issue there... is anyone else experiencing issues when using things like the Update Manager where gksu doesn't come up and its process starts using CPU?
[05:42] <cables> Is there any chance of Firefox 3 in gutsy?
[05:42] <DanaG> Hmm, whenever I try to use my LADSPA device in .asoundrc,
[05:42] <DanaG> aplay: set_params:878: Broken configuration for this PCM: no configurations available
[06:51] <DanaG> Something odd:
[06:52] <DanaG> once snd-hda-intel loads, pcspkr will no longer beep.
[07:51] <shirish> is there a way to convert .chm to .odt or something similar?
[07:52] <Hobbsee> shirish: checked google?
[07:52] <Hobbsee> shirish: and apt-cache search?
[07:52] <shirish> Hobbsee: hi, I did do aptitude search which came up with viewers of .chm but didn't get anything particular about conversion utilities
[07:53] <shirish> google also returns lot of results but nothing linux, debian or ubuntu specific
[07:54] <Hobbsee> right
[07:54] <Hobbsee> you tried putting linux or debian in the search terms, i take it?
[07:54] <jimp> This is off topic for this channel... but the "archmage" package describes itself as a .CHM decompiler (which should give you normal .html as output).
[07:55] <shirish> jimp: saw that but really dunno, how it would work
[07:56] <shirish> Hobbsee: actually I had been waiting to know if its possible to know why brasero is held back, meaning which packages need to be upgraded before brasero can be installed. Any ideas how to know that?
[07:56] <Hobbsee> shirish: means you need to run a dist-upgrade
[07:57] <Hobbsee> shirish: being careful that you dont end up removing anything that you critically want
[07:57] <shirish> Hobbsee: I'm on gutsy
[07:57] <Hobbsee> from apt
[07:57] <Hobbsee> it doesnt matter.
[07:57] <Hobbsee> dist-upgrade will upgrade held back packages too, if possible
[07:58] <shirish> ok thanx will do it.
[08:03] <crimsun> it's shiny.
[08:03] <Hobbsee> heh
[08:03] <Hobbsee> yeah, but really...
[08:29] <DanaG> I stilll haven't found anything I like better than the stock tree.
[08:34] <knix> Why is it FF has larger menu fonts than any other gtk app
[08:36] <crdlb> knix, it isn't a gtk app
[08:38] <knix> Yes it is ..
[08:38] <knix> The menus are all handled through gtk
[08:45] <stdin> and it depends on libgtk2.0-0
[08:57] <sparr> how crazy would it be to fetch a kernel from gutsy?
[08:57] <crimsun> while running gutsy?  pretty normal.
[08:58] <sparr> while running feisty
[08:58] <crimsun> should work fine
[08:59] <crimsun> not supported, but it should worke
[08:59] <crimsun> -e
[08:59] <crdlb> knix, no it's XUL emulating gtk
[08:59] <sparr> its that or compile 2.6.21+ myself
[08:59] <sparr> and i prefer packages
[09:01] <sparr> was 2.6.21 ever packaged for gutsy or did the powers that be skip straight to 2.6.22?
[09:03] <stdin> looks like only 2.6.22 is there anyway
[09:04] <Peaker> Alright, who broke bzrtools? :-)
[12:31] <i386> hey any work being done to include the new atheros driver to support the new macbook c2d;'s?
[01:25] <stefg> !specs
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about specs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <stefg> !spec
[01:25] <ubotu> A spec is the details (specifications) of the components that make up software or a device. See: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+specs for specifications in Ubuntu.
[02:13] <AnRkey> are we gonna have a cooler artwork this time?
[02:58] <shirish> Hobbsee: Need your help in figuring out what went wrong?
[02:58] <Hobbsee> shirish: ENOCONTEXT
[02:59] <shirish> If I'm transcoding right, it means in what context :P
[02:59] <Hobbsee> sorry, -ENOCONTEXT
[02:59] <Hobbsee> ie, error:  no context
[02:59] <shirish> ok, I actually filed a bug, so maybe you can figure out what might have happened
[03:00] <shirish> Hobbsee: https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boinc/+bug/120337
[03:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120337 in boinc "boinc fails to be authorized " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[03:10] <johnnybuoy> hi all!
[03:21] <Hobbsee> shirish: yummy
[03:22] <shirish> Hobbsee: ah, the great princess returns, I'm guessing it was a nice dessert, dinner, lunch, tea (insert your favorite part here).
[03:22] <Hobbsee> shirish: looks like glib corruption, as the warning implies
[03:22] <Hobbsee> "warning, impending doom!"
[03:22] <Hobbsee> heya calc
[03:25] <shirish> Hobbsee: so whom should I contact so they can look what's wrong or ask me if they want to get some more tests done.
[03:25] <Hobbsee> the people who are in that debian BOINC team
[03:25] <shirish> Hobbsee: Another thing, do u know if ENOCONTEXT is a noun or verb or what?
[03:26] <Hobbsee> looking at the bug reports on it, it looks like a new vesrion is going into debian and ubuntu soon
[03:26] <Hobbsee> it's not an english word
[03:26] <Hobbsee> it's a concanation
[03:26] <shirish> yup there is 5.10 which is supposed to go in soon, although no idea how that soon is gonna be
[03:30] <shirish> Hobbsee: is there some internal queque which tells you when some software is going to make it or no such luck?
[03:31] <Hobbsee> nope
[03:31] <Hobbsee> shirish: as a general rule, nothing is private
[03:31] <Hobbsee> shirish: and i dont work for canonical
[03:32] <Hobbsee> shirish: there's the NEW queue and such - but that tells me nothing about debian.
[03:32] <shirish> Hobbsee: a little more OT this Concatenation is it the same as  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concatenation or the link below that
[03:32] <Hobbsee> shirish: yeah, that's it
[03:49] <shirish> Hobbsee: OT still ENOCONTEXT is used only in the context of computer programming?
[03:50] <Hobbsee> shirish: -E<error message here> is yes
[03:56] <shirish> Hobbsee: I made a preliminary wikipedia about it, see if its good when you have time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concantenated_words
[03:58] <DanaG> isn't it "concatenated"?
[03:58] <Hobbsee> DanaG: probably.  i never can spell it right
[04:00] <shirish> DanaG is right
[04:00] <shirish> Hobbsee: DanaG: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_concatenated_words
[04:01] <Hobbsee> oh well
[04:03] <shirish> true, but there may be more concatenated words which might be floating around, and non computer-programmers as well as novice computer programmers might benefit from such a  list
[04:23] <DanaG> hah: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/06/15/nes_flash_cart_released/1
[04:29] <shirish> Hobbsee: the glib corruption in #bug/120337 how can i find what glib version is being used I tried glib --version didn't work, I also tried libc6-dev that also didn't work
[04:29] <Hobbsee> shirish: the glib thing has always been there - just the new version doesnt hide that warning.
[04:29] <Hobbsee> the program needs fixing
[04:30] <shirish> so its an issue with glib
[04:31] <Hobbsee> no, it's an issue with boinc
[04:32] <Hobbsee> calling glib wrong.
[04:35] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: Im leaning towards a glibc issue
[04:35] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: see what seb said in -bugs
[04:36] <gnomefreak> cant doesnt scroll back i had to rejoin
[04:36] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: it happens on a bunch of apps not just one
[04:36] <gnomefreak> all mozilla apps have the issue atm
[04:36] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: that's because they're all problematic..
[04:36] <gnomefreak> plus other apps
[04:37] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: http://rafb.net/p/6KNlSH23.html
[04:37] <gnomefreak> ok ill take a looka nd see what i can find atleast on mozilla end
[04:38] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[04:38] <shirish> gnomefreak: should the error be also linked with glibc ?
[04:38] <Hobbsee> shirish: no.  read the pastebin.
[04:39] <gnomefreak> shirish: not from what i jsut read
[04:40] <shirish> ah, read that, the warning is ok, so you guys think its something else? i updated the glibc-dev & still the issue arises. https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boinc/+bug/120337
[04:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120337 in boinc "boinc fails to be authorized " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[04:41] <gnomefreak> shirish: it looks like the app is calling things in wrong order
[04:41] <gnomefreak> shirish: dont worry about it for now, you will be updated on your bug report
[04:42] <shirish> gnomefreak: ok thanx, although I would have liked to post an email to the boinc maintainers team also, just in case, the thing is I don't see a way to connect with them
[04:42] <gnomefreak> shirish: than do it
[04:45] <shirish> gnomefreak: The email address listed there seems to be incomplete, atleast in my browser it shows only till<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:46] <shirish> is that correct? or should there be something more?
[04:46] <gnomefreak> shirish: i dont know, im working on something atm try searcing for the address (i dont know anything about boinc
[04:46] <shirish> gnomefreak: oh ok sorry
[04:47] <Hobbsee> shirish: probably .org at the end
[04:47] <Hobbsee> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo
[04:47] <Hobbsee> yep
[04:49] <shirish> aha, there is also a lists.alioth.debian.org alongwith lists.debian.org
[05:05] <jimmy_> hey guys, when i undock my laptop, it wont suspend, and it boots up ridiculously slow, and then programs take forever to load, but when its docked it runs perfectly fine
[05:06] <jimmy_> im using an ibm thinkpad t42
[05:06] <jimmy_> is this a known issue?
[05:07] <jimmy_> also when i redock, the network/usb devices on my dock wont re-attach, it has to be rebooted
[06:54] <gnomefreak> shirish: you still herE?
[06:56] <gnomefreak> shirish: i need to know if boinc just gave you the warning or did it crash.
[06:57] <gnomefreak> shirish: im out for a bit but ping me the info and ill get back to you on it
[07:06] <hwilde> is there any default scheduled task that runs sunday morning at 7:35am ?
[07:32] <zaggynl> hwilde, that would be /etc/init.d/take-a-piss or /etc/init.d/breakfast, but I'm not sure
[07:34] <hwilde> lol
[07:34] <hwilde> I couldn't find anything either
[07:35] <hwilde> for some reason, software is crashing at 7:35am on sunday morning.  I am trying to defend the OS saying there is nothing scheduled at that time and no reason for it
[07:35] <hwilde> I even commented out cron.weekly just to prove the point
[07:35] <hwilde> I thought maybe somebody knows of some obscure hidden thing that happens then
[07:38] <calc> hwilde: not really any reason to defend gutsy at this point its not even at beta yet
[07:38] <calc> hwilde: there are likely all sorts of bugs in it
[07:46] <hwilde> calc, this happens in breezy, dapper, feisty and gutsy.  I only asked here in case somebody was working on a fix for next release
[07:46] <hwilde> calc, and my point in defending the OS (blaming the software itself) is that I can't find anything schedule to run sunday at 7:35am, so it has to be the software not the OS
[07:50] <shirish> gnomefreak: it gives me the warning, it doesn't crash, it freezes & then I have to force-quit. The error it gives me is it isn't authorized & the client server should be in the same directory
[07:51] <Hobbsee> shirish: then move the client so it is in the same directory...
[07:54] <calc> hwilde: have you filed a bug about it? if it happens in more than gutsy it should be looked into
[07:54] <hwilde> calc, well that is my point I can't find any indication it is the OS.
[07:54] <hwilde> I think it is the software, unless I can find something in the OS scheduled to run sunday 7:35am  (and I disabled weekly crontab already even tho it was earlier)
[07:55] <Hobbsee> calc: you're ssupposed to *close* bugs.  not tell people to file more!
[07:56] <shirish> Hobbsee: how? I just installed it?
[07:57] <calc> heh her connection died ;)
[07:57] <shirish> drats
[07:57] <calc> hwilde: there is a crontab entry for 6:52am on sundays
[07:57] <calc> er 6:47am i mean
[07:57] <calc> it runs everything in /etc/cron.weekly at that time
[07:57] <calc> so it could be something under cron.weekly that is hanging the box
[07:58] <calc> oh nevermind you mentioned commenting it out
[07:58] <hwilde> I commented it out just for s&g
[07:58] <shirish> calc: are you able to install pidgin-plugin-pack?
[07:58] <hwilde> even tho it was 45 mins earlier
[07:59] <calc> shirish: i don't have gutsy installed on my laptop and that is what i am using currently
[07:59] <shirish> ah ok
[07:59] <shirish> hwilde: what about u?
[08:00] <hwilde> what about me
[08:00] <hwilde> oh can I install that?
[08:02] <shirish> yup, its supposed to be in the mirrors quite some time ago, just checking if you are able to install it, my mirror updated everything except show anything about it
[08:02] <hwilde> shirish, I see it in debian but not ubuntu.  are you sure it's supposed to be included?
[08:02] <calc> i see it in ubuntu on my desktop box but i don't want to potentially break it by upgrading remotely
[08:02] <calc> it at least shows up as available
[08:02] <shirish> hwilde: I am subscribed to gutsy-changes-request & it shows that it was released by Daniel Holbach
[08:04] <hwilde> shirish, maybe https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+bug/112511
[08:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 112511 in feisty-backports "Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[08:04] <shirish> hwilde: lol, its there, seems it got to my mirror just
[08:05] <shirish> I'm gonna quit & come back in a moment.
[08:22] <shirish> gnomefreak: ping me whenever u are here
[08:22] <gnomefreak> im here
[08:22] <gnomefreak> shirish: i dont think that is related
[08:22] <shirish> oh ok
[08:22] <gnomefreak> im looking for program that crashes due to glib
[08:22] <gnomefreak> only found one
[08:23] <shirish> then basically what I have to do is do force quit
[08:23] <shirish> i did go to /var/crash to see if there was any crash file but there wasn't
[08:23] <gnomefreak> not on freezes
[08:23] <shirish> that's the thing, nothing happens with freezes
[08:24] <shirish> the good thing is the output I do manage to get each time as I do from CLI
[08:24] <shirish> I did manage to put up a ticket also at trac & I received mail saying that the glibc is pretty old
[08:24] <shirish> hang on, lemme find it
[08:25] <shirish> here it is http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/ticket/280
[08:28] <shirish> gnomefreak: are u able to see the site, it seems boinc is down at this point in time, i'm not able to connect to it
[08:29] <gnomefreak> shirish: no i cant open sites atm way too much load
[08:29] <shirish> ok understood, I'll also try it a bit later also
[08:30] <gnomefreak> shirish: sorry but i have 2 firefox and iceape building atm
[08:31] <shirish> gnomefreak: are u on debian as well? IIRC  the ice something is of debian
[08:31] <gnomefreak> we have iceape in gutsy
[08:31] <shirish> oh that's cool
[08:31] <gnomefreak> 1.1.1 is there 1.1.2 is building
[08:33] <shirish> please don't, as it is apes get so many less opportunities to be near ice
[08:35] <shirish> gnomefreak: are u frank thomas by any chance?
[08:35] <gnomefreak> nope im john vivirito
[08:37] <shirish> ah ok, he is supposed to be the bug manager, I'm thinking to shoot him a mail sometime also, asking what the issue might be
[08:38] <gnomefreak> i know that name i just cant remember who it is. if you go to launchpad.net/people you should beablet o search his name and see who he is
[08:39] <shirish> I know I have his overview in front of me, if you want I can give the link
[08:39] <shirish> I think he is the boinc maintainer
[08:40] <shirish> https://beta.launchpad.net/~fst/
[08:40] <shirish> be careful, he looks like the devil though
[08:55] <Arwen> duh, anyone here?
[08:56] <shirish> only fools are here on weekends, hence yes :P
[08:56] <Arwen> just wondering how stable Gusty is (yes yes, I know it's pre-alpha)?
[08:56] <Arwen> usable, unusable, or eat-your-babies-unusable?
[08:58] <gnomefreak> Arwen: suggestion: dont do it yet
[08:59] <Arwen> that doesn't really answer my question? but I'm guessing it's "eat-your-babies-unusable" then?
[08:59] <gnomefreak> atm some people cant boot others can. I can not tell you how stable it will be on your pc i can however tell you there are alot of problems and will be more in the near future
[09:00] <gnomefreak> if you have to ask you dont want to upgrade
[09:00] <gnomefreak> oh and update-manager and dist-upgrade fail often on peoples tried
[09:00] <gnomefreak> trys
[09:00] <Arwen> well, that's a fair enough answer. Guess I'll wait for Tribe 5 or so.
[09:01] <druke> anyone getting a weird screen thing popping up in teh newst gutsy update? its like teh volume changer popup, but in the middle of the screen
[09:01] <gnomefreak> ok i mout for a bit
[09:01] <gnomefreak> hint <what does it say>
[09:01] <gnomefreak> bbl
[10:05] <_raphael_> are the new features in gutsy decided?
[10:08] <pwnguin> decided is a bad word
[10:08] <pwnguin> there's goals stated for gutsy
[10:08] <_raphael_> that`s what I meant
[10:08] <pwnguin> but i doubt any would be "blockers"
[10:09] <_raphael_> blockers?
[10:10] <pwnguin> as in, "lets push back the release for this feature"
[10:10] <pwnguin> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy
[10:10] <_raphael_> more like guidelines?
[10:11] <pwnguin> you can look at that page and see what's been suggested and how far along they are, and whether they're approved
[10:11] <pwnguin> i dont think many features get rejected
[11:53] <crimsun> this new sudo password prompt is definitely more novice-friendly, but I'm waxing for the old one.
[11:54] <crimsun> must be my old age.
[11:55] <DanaG> Same here.
[11:55] <DanaG> I prefer [$NAME]  password
[11:55] <DanaG> rather than [sudo]  $NAME Password.
[11:56] <DanaG> Or "Password for $NAME"
[11:56] <DanaG> I mean, I like the first or third, not what it is now.
[11:56] <crimsun> well, the discussion occurred in the bug number mentioned in the changelog
[11:56] <crimsun> feel free to add your thoughts there
[12:12] <Enverex> Ok, I've got an annoying issue I hope someone can resolve
[12:13] <Enverex> Ubuntu's kernel comes with fglrx in volatile by default, but if you build the ATi fglrx module with module-assistant it puts it in misc instead (so it doesn't work as it ends up loading the one from volatile which is the old one)
[12:28] <ryanpg> hi, I'm constantly experiencing crashes in firefox... which is fine, even expected, but... apport seems to refuse to run is there a way to manually start apport after a crash?