[01:22] <boredandblogging> umm, the link on UWN still goes to issue 32 even though it says 33
[01:23] <boredandblogging> fixed it
[04:17] <Burgundavia> beuno: it should have been cleared
[04:25] <Burgundavia> beuno: try sending again, I may have press the wrong buttons
[04:38] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia, I'm available for any link scrounging should you need it
[04:38] <Burgundavia> ok
[04:39] <lotusleaf> is collaboration being done via wiki now or gobby still?
[04:39] <Burgundavia> wiki during the weeek
[04:39] <lotusleaf> k
[04:40] <boredandblogging> Burgundavia, can we start adding to 34?
[04:40] <Burgundavia> yep, start in on it
[04:40] <boredandblogging> ok
[04:44] <lotusleaf> Perhaps the story this links to can be mentioned somehow regarding people switching from Windows to Ubuntu? I think it's a great example: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Free_At_Last_The_Choice_of_Ubuntu
[04:44] <lotusleaf> Unlike a lot of switcher stories, this guy really goes into detail
[04:44] <Madpilot> better to link straight to the actual story in UWN - why force the detour to Digg?
[04:45] <lotusleaf> Madpilot, correct, which is why I said "the story this links to"
[04:45] <lotusleaf> I may interview the guy myself, too
[04:45] <Madpilot> there's an "In the Media" UWN section, fire it it
[04:45] <lotusleaf> really? thanks!
[04:45] <lotusleaf> were I to conduct an interview, would this be worthy of inclusion?
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> lotusleaf: Blogging it and linking your blog would be better - UWN is usually kept shortish (when possible...)
[04:46] <lotusleaf> gotcha, thanks :)
[04:48] <lotusleaf> is there a UWN button/banner for websites?
[04:49] <lotusleaf> Saw something on the ubuntulive site but not what I was looking for
[05:03] <boredandblogging> how old can the articles be? For 34, do the blog posts and articles have to have been posted this week?
[05:09] <Burgundavia> yes
[05:09] <Burgundavia> hence the "weekly" part of the news :)
[05:09] <Madpilot> there's been "older, but only discovered by us in time for this issue" stuff in UWN before, though
[05:12] <Burgundavia> true
[05:12] <Burgundavia> if it is really good, maybe
[05:16] <boredandblogging> just wondering, if maybe a good article/post just got missed or something
[05:17] <boredandblogging> i was looking at lotusleaf's digg site, and its well written but was posted on March 19th
[05:18] <boredandblogging> and I missed it when I was looking for #33 material
[05:25] <lotusleaf> I've seen much older articles linked
[05:25] <lotusleaf> but generally those were related to reviews of Edgy and the like
[05:25] <lotusleaf> so that's a different thing, perhaps
[05:26] <lotusleaf> I'd like to find more Kubuntu related articles
[05:28] <boredandblogging> right
[05:44] <beuno> Burgundavia: re-sent
[05:44] <rjian> ellow everyone
[05:45] <beuno> hey rjian
[05:46] <rjian> hello beuno
[10:41] <poningru> tsmithe: dude wth
[10:42] <jenda> what did tsmithe do :)
[11:07] <poningru> jenda: his last couple of blogs
[11:08] <jenda> poningru: linky?
[11:08] <juliux> jenda, planet.ubuntulinux.org
[11:09] <poningru> http://tibsplace.co.uk/blog/index.php/2007/03/25/copyright-violation-at-httpubuntu-linuxwithishowcom/
[11:10] <jenda> got it on the planet...
[11:10] <jenda> :)

[02:48] <beuno> jenda: no pushes yeat, but I got some of the work done  :D
[02:55] <jenda> oook :)
[05:24] <bordy> quick question: What time is that meeting on the first again?
[05:35] <beuno> bordy: 20:00 UTC
[05:35] <bordy> thankee
[05:37] <beuno> welcomee  :D
[05:38] <Jenda> :)
[05:46] <Wicks> lo all
[08:23] <beuno> Burgwork: UWN #33 still hasn't gone through:  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2007-March/thread.html
[08:23] <Burgwork> ugh, I saw it
[08:23] <Burgwork> it is in my inbox
[08:26] <beuno> :D
[08:38] <beuno> Jenda: looks like I'm crossing ryan off my christmas card list
[08:38] <beuno> no answer at all  :(
[08:39] <Burgwork> beuno: hmm
[08:40] <Burgwork> I honestly have no idea why it didn't show up in the archives
[08:40] <beuno> I sent it twice
[08:40] <beuno> did it go through thou?
[08:41] <Burgwork> the 2nd one hit my inbox, which is odd
[08:41] <beuno> third try?
[08:41] <Burgwork> ok, send again
[08:44] <beuno> Burgwork: sent
[08:50] <beuno> Your message to ubuntu-news awaits moderator approval
[08:55] <Burgwork> beuno: hmm, let me try again
[08:59] <beuno> doesn't seem to go through...
[09:01] <Burgwork> haven't cleared it yet
[09:02] <beuno> ok  :D
[09:02] <beuno> brb
[09:21] <Ckenyon> Hi all
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[09:23] <tsmithe> 'lo there
[09:44] <beuno_> Burgwork: still nothing, I got my @ubuntu.com address working though
[09:45] <beuno_> will that make it go through the filter?
[10:09] <Burgwork> beuno: will do
[10:42] <Jenda> oi, meatballhat
[10:42] <meatballhat> Jenda: hallloooo
[10:43] <Jenda> meatballhat: He said he did _some_ work on it... ;)
[10:43] <meatballhat> gotcha ;-)
[10:43] <meatballhat> _some_ >= _none_
[10:47] <Jenda> yep :)
[10:47] <Jenda> but it also < pushed ;)
[10:48] <meatballhat> hrm .....  ugh
[10:50] <Jenda> :)
[11:16] <beuno> ok, I'm not going to run
[11:17] <beuno> I think you're starting to do that so I don't speak
[11:19] <Jenda> hehe ;)
[11:21] <beuno> DIY is looking good, pushed through most of the "don't want to do this" parts in the weekend
[11:21] <beuno> now I just need to polish it, tie some strings
[11:21] <beuno> and maybe an alpha version can be tested   :o
[11:22] <beuno> Burgwork's "sprint" threat seemed to work   :/
[11:22] <Burgwork> heh
[11:24] <Jenda> hehehe :)
[11:25] <beuno> I'm a little upset I didn't get any answer from ryan though
[11:25] <beuno> at least a "I don't think this is a good time to do something like that"
[11:26] <beuno> but considering I went to all the trouble to talk to devs in launchpad, get them onboard, write up possible ways to do it
[11:26] <beuno> and actually coded part of what's needed
[11:26] <beuno> I expected to get a different outcome
[11:27] <adamant1988> Do we have a launchpad or something?
[11:27] <Burgwork> what specific part are you talking about?
[11:27] <adamant1988> I feel stupid asking
[11:27] <beuno> Burgwork: a way to connect the forums to launchpad
[11:27] <beuno> you don't like forums very much
[11:27] <Burgwork> ahh
[11:28] <beuno> so I don't think it will move you very much
[11:28] <Burgwork> I dislike how I have to go to forums to get in the information
[11:28] <Burgwork> it is a good thing, to have single-auth
[11:28] <beuno> no, not "authentication"
[11:28] <beuno> but as in "this thread is related to X bug, which is now closed"
[11:28] <beuno> or rejected
[11:28] <Burgwork> ahh
[11:28] <Burgwork> auth would be nice
[11:28] <beuno> that way you don't have to scroll through 22 pages until you find out it's fixed
[11:29] <adamant1988> Jenda: ping
[11:29] <beuno> yes, auth would be nice, but it's completly out of my hands
[11:29] <beuno> this I found a way to implement
[11:29] <Jenda> adamant1988: pong
[11:29] <adamant1988> Jenda: Does the marketing team have a launchpad for our specs or what?
[11:29] <beuno> got a few launchpad devs to tell they'd be interested in doing it the other way around too "this bug is related to X thread"
[11:29] <Jenda> beuno: I'll try prodding him...
[11:29] <Jenda> adamant1988: O_O
[11:30] <beuno> which can be automatic if you already have that info in the forums
[11:30] <Jenda> adamant1988: depends...
[11:30] <adamant1988> Jenda: I know :( I'm ashamed.
[11:30] <beuno> so it would be little work, bug gain
[11:30] <beuno> and would also tend to send users much more to launchpad, which would help out a lot
[11:30] <Jenda> adamant1988: for actual projects, one would start a product, and then apply various specs to it.
[11:30] <adamant1988> But it would be nice to be able to set up launchpad specs similar to the Ubuntu Release specs
[11:30] <adamant1988> but they can't be classed under the Marketing Team umbrella?
[11:31] <beuno> adamant1988: yes they can
[11:31] <Jenda> adamant1988: but if you are thinking of speccing the Job Board, I'd leave it at the wiki for now, as it doesn't merit a 'product' of its own.
[11:31] <Jenda> adamant1988: that would require a 'project' AFAIK, which we won't get ;)
[11:31] <adamant1988> Jenda: Actually I was just asking cause I want to see if there is something I can do
[11:31] <adamant1988> and it would be nice to see where I was needed
[11:32] <Jenda> hmm
[11:32] <beuno> Jenda: don't worry about prodding ryan, I need him to "want" to implement this, not "have to"
[11:32] <Jenda> adamant1988: I'm not sure if I'm getting what you're saying, but if you're looking for a To Do list, you can check out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite
[11:33] <Jenda> beuno: well, he needs to be prodded about lots of things ;)
[11:33] <Jenda> except, I lost IM contact with him by adopting centericq :(
[11:33] <adamant1988> Jenda: I guess that'll do :)
[11:33] <Jenda> (it won't take AIM through ICQ :()
[11:33] <Jenda> adamant1988: ;)
[11:33] <adamant1988> I just installed Ubuntu on my lap top
[11:33] <adamant1988> So I'm waiting for that to update
[11:34] <beuno> oh, well, he usually answered emails pretty fast
[11:34] <beuno> all the ones I exchanged with him before where answered within hours
[11:34] <adamant1988> interesting question, why do the various teams on the Ubuntu forums not have special titles?
[11:37] <beuno> I finally got my @ubuntu.com working  :D
[11:37] <beuno> @ubuntu.com
[11:52] <MenZa> :O
[11:54] <Jenda> adamant1988: because 1) someone would have to code it first 2) someone would have to check each of the people if they are truly members of each team 3) you would have to choose one


[02:02] <callmepk> good morning
[06:12] <didrocks> good morning
[06:17] <bittin> morning
[06:21] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:25] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN, hey bittin
[06:25] <oSoMoN> good morning bittin, salut didrocks
[06:27] <ricotz> good morning everyone
[06:28] <didrocks> hey ricotz
[06:28] <oSoMoN> morning ricotz
[07:18] <seb128> hey desktopers, how are you?
[07:22] <callmepk> hi didrocks bittin oSoMoN ricotz seb128
[07:22] <didrocks> salut seb128, hey callmepk
[07:49] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, hey callmepk
[07:49] <oSoMoN> seb128, doing fine, and you?
[08:03] <laney> \o
[08:04] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk didrocks bittin oSoMoN ricotz seb128 laney :)
[08:08] <oSoMoN> hey laney, marcustomlinson
[08:11] <laney> yo marcustomlinson oSoMoN
[08:17] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, I applied a gnome-shell update on hirsute this morning, then rebooted and got a crash report dialog just after reboot, for /usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary
[08:18] <oSoMoN> I wouldn't see my crash report on errors.ubuntu.com so I manually uploaded it with apport-bug, and I now see the corresponding .upload file, but still not seeing the crash in the error tracker
[08:27] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson, laney!
[08:40] <jibel> Good morning
[08:43] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[08:51] <marcustomlinson> hey jibel
[09:32] <jibel> salut oSoMoN marcustomlinson
[09:33] <laney> hey didrocks jibel
[09:33] <jibel> Hey laney
[09:33]  * laney is examining https://launchpadlibrarian.net/544034208/syslog
[09:33] <laney> someone is managing to reproduce that dbus/systemd timeout thing using cloud images
[11:00] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: hey! Mhmhm can you get the stacktrace from the dump in the apoort file?
[11:36] <KGB-2> gnome-builder tags ded672a Sebastien Bacher upstream/3.40.2 * Upstream version 3.40.2 * https://deb.li/OnHV
[11:37] <KGB-2> gnome-builder upstream/latest 574f99e Sebastien Bacher * pushed 317 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/iO27j
[11:37] <KGB-2> gnome-builder upstream/latest efdefcf James Westman src/plugins/deviced/gbp-deviced-deploy-strategy.c * deviced: Override finish functions * https://deb.li/kbJ7
[11:37] <KGB-2> gnome-builder upstream/latest 96732a8 James Westman src/plugins/deviced/gbp-deviced-deploy-strategy.c * deviced: Use the correct triplet * https://deb.li/3Wnpd
[11:38] <KGB-2> gnome-builder upstream/latest 8ca0196 Christian Hergert src/libide/foundry/ide-build-manager.c * foundry: be tolerant of NULL error message * https://deb.li/eBaF
[11:38] <KGB-2> gnome-builder upstream/latest df70be2 Christian Hergert src/libide/themes/themes/shared/shared-editor.css * themes: work around broken distro themes * https://deb.li/3a2H1
[11:38] <KGB-2> gnome-builder upstream/latest a5b216a Christian Hergert src/plugins/flatpak/ gbp-flatpak-manifest.c gbp-flatpak-manifest.h * flatpak: add helper to get platform (aka runtime) * https://deb.li/82bN
[11:38] <KGB-2> gnome-builder pristine-tar b477ab7 Sebastien Bacher gnome-builder_3.40.2.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-builder_3.40.2.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-builder_3.40.2.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/r2mh
[11:50] <KGB-2> gnome-music pristine-tar 703cafe Iain Lane gnome-music_40.1.1.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-music_40.1.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-music_40.1.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3FB1I
[11:50] <KGB-2> gnome-music pristine-tar 0650d30 Iain Lane gnome-music_40.1.1.orig.tar.xz.delta * pristine-tar data for gnome-music_40.1.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/abFE
[11:50] <KGB-2> gnome-music upstream/latest b31ab2a Iain Lane * pushed 76 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3uXNe
[11:50] <KGB-2> gnome-music upstream/latest 1cf0f57 Jean Felder NEWS data/org.gnome.Music.appdata.xml.in.in meson.build * Release 40.0 * https://deb.li/fn7D
[11:50] <KGB-2> gnome-music upstream/latest 03b59bf Jean Felder gnomemusic/gstplayer.py * gstplayer: Fix change to stopped state * https://deb.li/3eFVz
[11:50] <KGB-2> gnome-music upstream/latest 49737ba Jean Felder gnomemusic/grilowrappers/grltrackerplaylists.py * grltrackerplaylists: Fix update playlist query when adding songs * https://deb.li/3k2dR
[11:50] <KGB-2> gnome-music upstream/latest f902e2c Jean Felder gnomemusic/grilowrappers/grltrackerplaylists.py * grltrackerplaylists: Do not add the same song several times * https://deb.li/iWbgv
[11:51] <KGB-2> gnome-music upstream/latest 4e36a50 Jean Felder gnomemusic/grilowrappers/grltrackerplaylists.py * grltrackerplaylists: Fix add_songs docstring * https://deb.li/prxn
[11:51] <KGB-2> gnome-music tags bc8c82a Iain Lane upstream/40.1.1 * Upstream version 40.1.1 * https://deb.li/3QBm7
[11:57] <KGB-2> evince tags d7f08af Sebastien Bacher upstream/40.2 * Upstream version 40.2 * https://deb.li/3VXuF
[11:57] <KGB-2> evince upstream/latest e7e9c42 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 15 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/BFnx
[11:57] <KGB-2> evince upstream/latest c669bb5 Yosef Or Boczko po/he.po * Update Hebrew translation * https://deb.li/3LFah
[11:58] <KGB-2> evince upstream/latest 4b3dc92 Sebastien Bacher build-aux/snap/snapcraft.yaml * snap: update to the gnome 3.38 extension to fix the build * https://deb.li/02J2
[11:58] <KGB-2> evince upstream/latest 9fb2621 Pawan Chitrakar po/ne.po * Update Nepali translation * https://deb.li/iibpC
[11:58] <KGB-2> evince upstream/latest 6f42de4 Germán Poo-Caamaño shell/ev-window-title.c * shell: Explicitly set title in the header bar as a fallback * https://deb.li/j2vg
[11:58] <KGB-2> evince upstream/latest 059140c Jordi Mas help/ca/ca.po * Update Catalan translation * https://deb.li/3Db7l
[11:58] <KGB-2> evince pristine-tar 8d93e85 Sebastien Bacher evince_40.2.orig.tar.xz.delta evince_40.2.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for evince_40.2.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3TBdE
[12:09] <KGB-2> gnome-music Iain Lane 244635 * commented merge request !2 * https://deb.li/312FD
[12:20] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RNnPZqnRDx/
[12:21] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: I guess you need some symbols, at least libmutter and gnome-shell ones i feel
[12:22] <oSoMoN> the executable that crashed is /usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary, it doesn't link against libmutter
[12:23] <oSoMoN> but I'll see if I can get a more complete and useful trace
[12:28] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, that looks better: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MMvjHdTR5x/
[12:28] <oSoMoN> "query-end-session", does this mean the crash occured when closing the session when I rebooted?
[13:06] <fossfreedom> Trevinho: is bug #1931901 anywhere in your radar? Ubuntu Budgie now has a broken desktop since gsettings-desktop-schemas migrated today
[14:02] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: interesting, report it at gnome-session gnome upsteram, Benjamin should look at it
[14:06] <Trevinho> fossfreedom: mhmhm, so... i think removing the patch is sanest at this point. Indeed can be annoying but I think it's the right thing to do
[14:07] <Trevinho> since that patch is really not needed by anything around, and if it is, well we've to drop that.
[14:07] <Trevinho> I think it's better to prepare a ppa with that migration though, maybe do we want to prepare a silo with that?
[14:09] <Trevinho> fossfreedom: otherwise, another otpion is to make the `gnome_bg_set_draw_background` a no-op... Printing a critical instead.
[14:09] <Trevinho> and wait for next upstream SO bump for dropping the api
[14:09] <Trevinho> I think this is better for now
[14:10] <Trevinho> could even use a g_error...
[14:16] <fossfreedom> Trevinho: the latter is sounds the best way forward. I agree with you that no one should be using that key so removing it from gsettings-schemas is the correct way to go
[14:17] <Trevinho> fossfreedom: we see if something is using the function around, if not we can probably even just drop it without caring about the so-name either
[14:17] <fossfreedom> Fair enough.
[14:39] <KGB-2> gnome-photos tags beee8a0 Iain Lane upstream/40.0 * Upstream version 40.0 * https://deb.li/ix1xx
[14:39] <KGB-2> gnome-photos tags beee8a0 Iain Lane upstream/40.0 * tag deleted
[15:37] <KGB-1> gnome-photos pristine-tar a7a6db1 Iain Lane gnome-photos_40.0.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-photos_40.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-photos_40.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/Q1qM
[15:37] <KGB-1> gnome-photos upstream/latest 5190f97 Iain Lane * pushed 129 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3D3xj
[15:37] <KGB-1> gnome-photos upstream/latest 2df3bbd Kjartan Maraas po/nb.po * Update Norwegian Bokmål translation * https://deb.li/VyN4
[15:37] <KGB-1> gnome-photos upstream/latest c855a5a Abanoub Ghadban src/ photos-base-item.c photos-base-item.h * base-item: Convert photos_base_item_trash to async API * https://deb.li/3TWED
[15:38] <KGB-1> gnome-photos upstream/latest 4f70565 Abanoub Ghadban src/photos-delete-notification.c * delete-notification: Ensure that items get deleted when app is quit * https://deb.li/LWVg
[15:38] <KGB-1> gnome-photos upstream/latest e2b961b Debarshi Ray src/photos-base-item.c * base-item: Fix typo * https://deb.li/3q1ll
[15:38] <KGB-1> gnome-photos upstream/latest 5ce0b82 Debarshi Ray src/photos-base-item.c * base-item: Don't free the GError twice * https://deb.li/3iCgx
[15:38] <KGB-1> gnome-photos tags f49efd6 Iain Lane upstream/40.0 * Upstream version 40.0 * https://deb.li/ix1xx
[19:24] <donfede> hello - i'm seeking help in changing the GDM (login greeter) theme/positioning (vertical vs horiz banner-text arrangements); where may i find more info on that?
[19:25]  * donfede i've successfully changed most settings via /etc/gdm/greeter.dconf-defaults, but the banner-text is squished.
[19:26]  * donfede i'm trying to either remove the user/face icon area (allowing more space for banner text), or move the banner text from top (verticale layout) to left (horizontal layout) as is used on CentOS7
[19:33] <fossfreedom> Trevinho: I've attached a couple of possible debdiff's along the ideas you outlined earlier - please can you consider these?  TIA bug #1931901
[20:59] <donfede> digging further keep seeing gdm (theme) customization is centered around gresource; yaru-theme so far looks like a promising lead to customize...
[21:21] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-session/-/issues/92
[21:21] <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue 92 in gnome-session "gnome-session-binary crashed with SIGSEGV when rebooting" [Opened]


 Is there a way to make security/system updates automatic?
[02:11] <jake> hi
[02:11] <jake> is this working?
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/uihoCJNA/file_38834.jpg Guys any problem
 your fan did
 died*
 (Video, 14s)https://irc-attachments.kde.org/FV4tuCxd/file_38835.mp4
 @RikMills, Kubuntu 21.04?
 I just have Kubuntu 20.10 :v
 @Archxlover, Ooh u here too
 Sup guys
 Hi dear, … Could you tell me how to add the Keyboard of Horami Language (hac) to Linux attributes like Kubuntu and Ubuntu .... … Yours sincerely … Ako Marani … Translator of Telegram language to Horami and maker of a Horami Keyboard for Windows since 2012 ...
 @AkuMarani, You should look into the XKB Project: https://www.x.org/wiki/XKB/
 Here is a tutorial how to create a custom keyboard layout: https://karols.github.io/blog/2013/11/18/creating-custom-keyboard-layouts-for-linux/
 @bauchhaus, Thanks a lot🙏💐💐💐💐💐💐
[10:40] <m_tadeu> hi...my kubuntu won't boot properly since I can't reach the login screen. XOrg.0.log says "(EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory"...any ideas about this?
[10:51] <ada_> Hi!; would it be possible to sync the vault files between a focal fossa and groovy gorilla kubuntu install using syncthing? or would they be all pooped up with the permissions? would be nice to have my secure folders sync between desktop and laptop
 @RikMills, yes … updates came in
 @derEremit, Great. Sorry about that. Just bad timing. debian had a similar thing updating to 5.19 the other day
 @RikMills, the funny thing is I had the same problem with kde neon when they pushed 5.20 … that time it to me 2 days to figure out what's wrong :D
 well … that's the downside of always living on the edge :D
 @derEremit, Yes, it was the same. The technical reason why it happened was totally different, but the result was the same!
 Shit happens :D
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/jXMbmuh0/file_38845.mp4
 well, after always switching to the next unstable kubuntu, once the archives are open, that's the first time in years I had an unstable system, so. … I am still very pleased with all the work you guys do!
 Yeah, usually KDE plasma devs don't make breaking changes in the libraries, so partial upgrades don't tend to crash things much. This time they did, so it turned out the old kwin could simply NOT work with the new kwayland-server lib
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 Anyone can help me?
 @Pink, can you start krunner?
 @derEremit, Sorry my laptop is bootup
 😅
 @Pink, is this before login?
 @derEremit, No
 I just install kubuntu
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/idr4OJh8/file_38852.jpg
 How to install latte-dock please?
[11:41] <Bings-M> Kubuntu forums isn't working for me. Says the security certificate has expired.
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:09] <acheronuk> Bings-M: yes. the admins of that forum are in the US, so will probably get up soon to find that!
 https://del.dog/yfexoolona.go … Help please, having an weird errors
 https://del.dog/yfexoolona.go … Help please, having an weird errors
 because you are using an unsupported 3rd party kernel
 Uhm how to get back to original kernel and remove Xanmod completely
 I have used for 1 -2 months did had issues
 But after I installed virtual box it wasn't working so I removed it later and after that Im getting this error
 @RikMills, How to remove Xanmod and switch back to the generic kernel?
 Undo what you did to install it I guess. I have zero idea where it comes from, or anything else about it, so cannot say more
[15:11] <drspastic> hi?
[15:15] <drspastic> a little help please! i can see user list, joins and leaves, and my own messages but no other chat/messages are visible. can someone try to pm me please?
[15:16] <drspastic> if i dont respond its because i cant see any messages
[15:17] <Mamarok> drspastic: using what exactly? Matrix, IRC?
[15:17] <Mamarok> which client?
[15:18] <drspastic> Mamarok thanks im on konversation, but the problem persists even on webclients. i just dont get it
[15:19] <drspastic> im on lots of channels that should be busy
[15:19] <Mamarok> well, obviously you can read my message :-)
[15:20] <Mamarok> and what did you change from the default settings?
[15:21] <drspastic> Mamorock: aah yes only can read you atm all settings default
[15:22] <drspastic> this is a nick i have had since the year dot so to speak
[15:23] <Mamarok> let's kerp this here, then, which Kubuntu version? Please answer my questions
[15:23] <Mamarok> keep*
[15:24] <Mamarok> FWIW: there is nobody else speaking in here currently, maybe you expect conversations that don't actually ghappen
[15:24] <drspastic> Mamorock: yes, its latest kubuntu run in a vm on top of debian. all network is passed straight through to it
[15:25] <Mamarok> "Lattest" is jsut not good enough, I need numbers
[15:25] <drspastic> Mamorock: ohh i expected it to be non stop busy with all these users
[15:25] <Mamarok> 20.10 or 20.04 (which si the latest LTS)
[15:26] <Mamarok> and what channel are you in where you think there are discussions happening so that I can check (talking about Freebode, of course)
[15:26] <Mamarok> Freenode* even
[15:27] <Mamarok> many people just hang out in channels, many users doesn't mean everybody is talking all the time, especially in a support channel
[15:27] <drspastic> 20.04 plasma 5.18.5 kernel 5.4.0-53-generic 64 bit
[15:28] <Mamarok> right, so not really latest as I guessed :-)
[15:28] <Mamarok> the latest LTS, though
[15:28] <drspastic> ok not like daily latest :)
[15:29] <Mamarok> I use 20.10 with Plasma 5.19.5, nothing daily here
[15:30] <drspastic> i still only see you. has nobody else posted anything all this time?
[15:30] <Mamarok> nope
[15:30] <drspastic> doh! feeling silly now
[15:30] <Mamarok> which is quite normal
[15:31] <drspastic> i remember a few years back i used to go on the #ubuntu channel and it was a shouting match in a playground
[15:31] <Mamarok> IRC channels are used for support and development, so there are discussions when needed, if you want to chat you need an offtopic channel
[15:31] <drspastic> let me check there
[15:31]  * BluesKaj posts, Hi Mamarok, drspastic :-)
[15:32] <Mamarok> hi BluesKaj :-)
[15:32] <Mamarok> drspastic: try #kubuntu-offtopic for random chit-chat
 @RikMills I have uninstalled that custom kernel but an error
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[15:33] <drspastic> ok my panic is over. thanks for the patience
[15:33] <Mamarok> drspastic: yw
[15:34] <drspastic> i will try again the channels that maybe suited better to my original query , unless anyone here is familiar with setting up qemu nvidia passthrough
[15:36] <Mamarok> I manage to avoid Nvidia in the last 30-something years, so not my expertise
[15:36]  * Mamarok is quite happy with her new AMD laptop
[15:38] <BluesKaj> yeah and VMs aren't my "thing" tried several OS on them and there was always some thing major that ruined it for me.
[15:39] <drspastic> if you want a LOL the cards im using are nvs300 and quadro600! ancient relics but im learning so its the principle i want to get used to
 dpkg: error processing package lvm2 (--configure): …  installed lvm2 package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
[15:40] <drspastic> i have been using vm kubuntu, puppy, windoze, etc for a year on this old dell r710  and no issues at all. i had help setting it up though.
[15:45] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: I am with you, there, VMs are not my cup of tea either, it is possible to set up several systems without having to go through hoops. I prefer dual boot and being able to have several Linux distros to choose from the login manager
[15:48] <drspastic> i used to do that but the computer serves webpages and files as well so its always up, and i can experiment on vms without risking the host setup
[15:49] <drspastic> and i often run music software in win10 and llinux together like synth patch controllers
[15:55] <BluesKaj> our band records from mics into a mixer connected to a laptop running reaper
[15:57] <BluesKaj> no synth, real guitars, bass and drums, but we're old school i guess
[16:03] <BluesKaj> anyway gotta go...later, take care
[17:19] <magic_> bonjour.. de l'aide s'il vousplait à propos de la création de la liste de logiciels installé sur Kubuntu
[17:19] <fahad-M> english? couldn't understand you, just saying
[17:21] <fahad-M> any guys heard of the lastest vulnerability in Ubuntu where a non-admin user can get access to root?
[17:21] <magic_> ok. i'd like to reinstall Kubuntu without loosing all the software already installed. what must i do ?
[17:21] <fahad-M> hmmm, do u have any recovery media?
[17:21] <magic_> yes
[17:21] <magic_> you meen usb drive ?
[17:22] <fahad-M> but wait, that's i guess is not possible, because when YOu remove system, YOu remove everything
[17:22] <fahad-M> however if you want a reset
[17:22] <fahad-M> it depends on the recovery media, and your kubuntu version
[17:23] <magic_> i know.. i'm readin a DOC about this and it is too complicated for me (noob)
[17:23] <fahad-M> but even a reset probably will bang everything
[17:23] <fahad-M> so am I lol
[17:23] <magic_> LOL
[17:23] <magic_> i must keep reading i think
[17:23] <fahad-M> maybe
[17:23] <magic_> i guess you are arab ?
[17:24] <fahad-M> you can always learn sth
[17:24] <fahad-M> nope
[17:24] <magic_> sorry
[17:24] <fahad-M> Pakistani
[17:24] <fahad-M> for?
[17:24] <magic_> good people
[17:24] <fahad-M> thank you
[17:24] <magic_> i'm Tunisian (noth africa)
[17:25] <fahad-M> It's nice to meet you
[17:25] <fahad-M> welcome to kubuntu community
[17:25] <magic_> thnks..
[17:25] <magic_> thnks..
[17:26] <fahad-M> if you find sth, feel free to share the solution
[17:26] <fahad-M> if don't, well
[17:26] <fahad-M> hope for the best
[17:27] <h1pot> I'm having an issue with emacs displaying utf-8 characters on GUI, on the other hand, uft-8 charset display normally if I launch emacs on konsole (terminal mode). What is causing this? I'm running kubuntu 20.04
[17:28] <fahad-M> check emacs preferences?
[17:29] <h1pot> I did, it's checked utf-8 by default
[17:29] <fahad-M> utf8 is default for system as well?
[17:30] <fahad-M> what problem it causes?
[17:30] <h1pot> some characters are missing, also emojis doesnt work
[17:31] <fahad-M> hmmmmm
[17:31] <h1pot> i also made sure utf-8 is the defaul in the init file of emacs, but nothing changes for the GUI
[17:31] <h1pot> but if I launch from konsole, it works
[17:32] <h1pot> on terminal mode
[17:32] <fahad-M> ok maybe it sounds funny, but maybe uninstall and install again, it is, anyways, time tested method lol
[17:33] <fahad-M> sudo apt reinstall packagename
[17:33] <h1pot> ok, I'll try it later
[17:33] <fahad-M> good luck
 Hi, hope your doing well, Im using ubuntu cinamon as my base op I wonder if its possible to full change from cinamon to kde ?
[22:04] <tomreyn> diiegg: a full installation is likely a better idea
 @tomreyn, Could I reinstall ubuntu with kde to keep my files or better a clean installation?
[22:34] <tomreyn> diiegg: i'd backup /home, do a clean installation, restore /home
 Ok
 Thanks
[22:45] <tomreyn> diiegg: if your current restricted (non-root) user has a different user id (uid) or group id (gid) - run "id" to check - than 1000 and 1000, you'll need to chown -R 1000:1000 /home/yourusername once the installation is done, and after moving the backup back in place.


[12:35] <mgalvin> fabbione: ping?
[02:32] <_paulbart> ow do i config mysql to allow outsied connections?
[02:33] <_paulbart> (typo) how
[02:34] <_paulbart> ill ask on the mysql channel
[07:11] <_paulb> i have a laptop that i would like to use mysql-admin on but the mysql server is set up to only allow connections from <IP_ADDRESS>(its loopback address) how do i cange it so it allows connections fromall computers?
[11:29] <A-Kaser> 'lo
[12:04] <A-Kaser> no european people here ?
[01:19] <J_P> hi all
[01:20] <A-Kaser> hi
[03:05] <edneymatias> morning!
[04:00] <A-Kaser> ... afternoon
[04:01] <jsgotangco> good evening =)
[04:01] <A-Kaser> .be and you ?
[04:02] <jsgotangco> .ph =)
[04:03] <A-Kaser> oh !
[04:11] <edneymatias> .doc?!
[04:12] <edneymatias> :)
[04:13] <jsgotangco> hah
[04:26] <A-Kaser> tss :)
[04:38] <mpathy> Hi There.. Much changed since the last release, heh? :) Because I try to get ssh started and feel a little bit dumb because the "usual" ways didnt work.. ?!
[06:05] <J_P> hi all
[06:09] <J_P> hey, I was have onde redir working ok: "redir --laddr=200.xxx.xxx.xxx --lport=9000 --caddr=<IP_ADDRESS> --cport=9000 --syslog --debug".
[06:09] <J_P> This redir were working for many months, so this weekend he stop of work. I try kill redir, start it agaim, comment all in /etc/hosts.deny but not works.
[06:09] <J_P> So I reboot machine and that redir come back to work. This is very strange, and this is not windows to need reboot.
[06:09] <J_P> This, I'm do nothing diferent before I restart machine. really NOTHING. Anyone can tell somethig for me have attnetion or anyone cause becouse this is ocurred ?
[06:10] <J_P> ahh this server was uptime 95 days. Only today i reboot it as last alternative to redir works.
[06:12] <A-Kaser> zombi process may be
[06:12] <A-Kaser> have you make : netstat -lna
[06:12] <A-Kaser> before the reboot ?
[06:13] <A-Kaser> or iptables -L -n
[06:13] <A-Kaser> to be sure you don't have a firewall rules or zombi process
[06:13] <A-Kaser> iptables stay in memory only , so if you reboot the iptables rules are empty
[06:25] <J_P> A-Kaser: humm not!
[06:25] <J_P> A-Kaser: I'm not use iptables in that machine,
[06:25] <J_P> really i'm not use iptables in that machine
[06:37] <A-Kaser> try iptables -L -n in sudo or root
[06:37] <A-Kaser> just to list the rules
[06:37] <A-Kaser> and the same with -t mangle
[06:37] <A-Kaser> -t nat
[06:38] <A-Kaser> may be you have try a software which have change iptables
[06:38] <A-Kaser> I don't know if you need enable ip_forward to use redir
[06:53] <J_P> A-Kaser: not, to redir works do not need ip_forward enabled. So iptables -L -n not help to debug if I'm nit use iptables for nothing is this machine right.
[06:53] <A-Kaser> right but maybe another software have change iptables
[06:53] <A-Kaser> but in all cases you cannot to know this after the reboot :)
[07:09] <J_P> A-Kaser: yes, you are right.. I think si somethink in network software problema (bug) in ubuntu (layer 3)
[07:14] <A-Kaser> a zombi process is not impossible
[08:46] <panthar> If I configure dhclient to send a hostname to the DHCP server, should I be seeing that on the command line?  I used to see "-h blahblah" on an older distro I had.
[08:49] <neuralis> panthar: that's the host-name parameter in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[08:51] <panthar> Hm, it's set there, but no dice
[08:54] <neuralis> one second.
[08:56] <neuralis> seems to work fine here.
[08:57] <panthar> shoot - my old server used the -h option and it was working.
[08:58] <neuralis> you have the line uncommented in the conf file, right??
[08:58] <panthar> Yeah :)
[08:58] <neuralis> er, one question mark.
[08:58] <panthar> *stop yelling at me*
[08:58] <panthar> heh
[09:04] <panthar> Would I see the hostname request in any logs?
[09:17] <neuralis> not sure, to be honest. the #ltsp folks might know, or you can try sniffing your dhcp packets and seeing if the hostname is being sent.
[09:18] <panthar> Might be easier to harass someone at the noc for a static :)
[09:18] <panthar> Thank you for the suggestions though.
[09:26] <neuralis> sure.


[00:37] <matv1> discovered something pretty awsum! ubuntu touch can see into the future :P
[00:38] <matv1> notifications in the quick access menu shows that I will receive a call tomorow
[00:43] <saidinesh5>               http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2580575 hmm.. looks like this is what was causing issue for me
[01:33] <saidinesh5> Aaaahh
[01:34] <saidinesh5> sudo apt-get build-dep ubuntu-keyboard is pulling in
[01:34] <saidinesh5> Get:68 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ utopic/main libxau-dev armhf 1:1.0.8-1 [9,438 B]
[01:34] <saidinesh5> Get:69 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ utopic/main libxdmcp-dev armhf 1:1.1.1-1build1 [23.4 kB]
[01:34] <saidinesh5> Get:70 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ utopic/main x11proto-input-dev all 2.3.1-1 [118 kB]
[01:34] <saidinesh5> Get:71 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ utopic/main x11proto-kb-dev all 1.0.6-2 [269 kB]
[01:34] <saidinesh5> and other stuff
[01:36] <saidinesh5> now that sucks
[01:36] <saidinesh5> hmm.. so manually installing the needed packages
[02:09] <saidinesh5> so guys how to set up a qt build environment on the device itself?
[04:28] <saidinesh5> okay this sucks
[04:28] <saidinesh5> i think installing sshfs bricked my device
[04:28] <saidinesh5> and i cant even boot to android!!
[04:55] <sabgenton> Can you run any x11 app now?
[04:56] <sabgenton> With xmir
[04:56] <sabgenton> Debating to go ahead and install touch on my nexus 4
[04:57] <sabgenton> I could use my phone as a desktop as well that might convince me
[04:57] <sabgenton> Assuming the hdmi adaptor works
[05:00] <Leviticus> !ops | waaaaaaaaa
[05:06] <sabgenton> K...
[05:07] <sabgenton> Nobody?
[05:33] <satyen> sir,is Asus zenfone 5 support ubuntu
[05:37] <satyen> ??
[05:37] <satyen> ??
[06:29] <saidinesh5> sabgenton: i doubt it
[06:29] <saidinesh5> i was trying to install some build dependencies for ubuntu-keyboard
[06:29] <saidinesh5> which seem to pull in some X11 dependencies
[06:30] <saidinesh5> and that breaks my installation
[06:30] <saidinesh5> and definitely DONT install sshfs. that bricks the device.
[06:30] <sabgenton> Breaks?
[06:31] <sabgenton> saidinesh5 can u unbrick?
[06:31] <saidinesh5> well it stopped booting
[06:31] <saidinesh5> sabgenton: tough one.. i had to reflash cyanogenmod
[06:32] <sabgenton> Could u use recovery to grab data first?
[06:32] <saidinesh5> umm havent tried that
[06:32] <sabgenton> k
[06:33] <saidinesh5> http://paste.kde.org/puq8jfw16
[06:33] <saidinesh5> the install log of sshfs
[06:33] <sabgenton> saidinesh5: im just assuming xmir will oneday alow x11 apps to run on the phone
[06:33] <saidinesh5> sabgenton: not sure there is much use for that though
[06:34] <saidinesh5> i remember the N900 wasn't soo plesant when i tried to use non touch apps on that touchscreen
[06:36] <sabgenton> saidinesh5: well it would be nice to doc your phone and use as a pc
[06:36] <saidinesh5> hmm.. yeah i guess so
[06:37] <sabgenton> Also to fill gaps the lack of apps there currently is
[06:38] <saidinesh5> hmm .. yeah i guess
[06:40] <sabgenton> saidinesh5: out of interest has anyone tried installing x and gnome
[06:40] <sabgenton> Etc?
[06:40] <sabgenton> Or unity 7
[06:40] <saidinesh5> nah .. the x that got installed was out of accident
[06:40] <saidinesh5> when i did sudo apt-get build-dep ubuntu-keyboard
[06:41] <saidinesh5> just to confirm the bug, let me install it again
[06:42] <sabgenton> If you could toggle between the two that would be ok
[06:42] <sabgenton> But xmir would be better
[06:42] <sabgenton> (  if they ever get it going )
[06:43] <saidinesh5> hmm..
[06:43] <saidinesh5> you know what
[06:43] <saidinesh5> let me try xmri
[06:43]  * saidinesh5 googles
[06:46] <saidinesh5> gah
[06:46] <saidinesh5> i think it broke again
[07:48] <saidinesh5> okay so i think the qt5-default and related packages on ubuntu touch are broken
[09:06] <popey> saidinesh5: "broken"?
[09:07] <saidinesh5> popey: well it somehow breaks Mir
[09:07] <saidinesh5> and then wont boot again
[09:07] <saidinesh5> until i reinstall ubuntu touch
[09:08] <saidinesh5> they seem to pull in some xorg related packages .. if thats what breaks mir
[09:08] <popey> why install qt5-default?
[09:08] <saidinesh5> cuz i wanted to compile something on the device
[09:08] <saidinesh5> basically i did sudo apt-get build-dep ubuntu-keyboard
[09:08] <popey> probably better doing that in a chroot
[09:09] <popey> which is what we use in the sdk
[09:09] <saidinesh5> oh?
[09:09] <saidinesh5> my sdk is also broken
[09:09] <saidinesh5> not sure how
[09:09] <saidinesh5> it just fails to start the qmake
[09:10] <saidinesh5> 14:40:10: Starting: "/home/dinesh/.config/ubuntu-sdk/qmake-ubuntu-sdk-14.10-armhf-click" /media/Data/src/Maliit/skeyer/skeyer.pro -r -spec linux-g++
[09:10] <saidinesh5> 14:40:10: The process "/home/dinesh/.config/ubuntu-sdk/qmake-ubuntu-sdk-14.10-armhf-click" exited with code 1.
[09:10] <saidinesh5> Error while building/deploying project skeyer (kit: Ubuntu Device (GCC armhf-ubuntu-sdk-14.10-utopic))
[09:10] <saidinesh5> When executing step 'qmake'
[09:10] <saidinesh5> brb
[09:13] <rayalez> Hi, guys!! I wanted to ask - will I be able to develop apps in python?
[09:17] <popey> rayalez: we don't recommend it, but it's possible
[09:19] <saidinesh5> back
[09:20] <saidinesh5> popey: so basically whats the issue with the qt5 devel packages on ubuntu touch?
[09:20] <saidinesh5> im using the latest utopic build from multirom
[09:20] <saidinesh5> 243 i think
[09:20] <popey> like I say, we use chroot, generally dont install those packages on the device
[09:21] <saidinesh5> ohh
[09:21] <saidinesh5> popey: but ubuntu-keyboard source itself has buildOnDevice.sh
[09:21] <saidinesh5> which installs this stuff
[09:21] <saidinesh5> also popey could you point me to a wikipage where i can see more info about the chroot?
[09:22] <popey> saidinesh5: http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/sdk/tutorials/click-targets-and-device-kits/
[09:22] <saidinesh5> Ahh
[09:42] <prapto> hello
[09:44] <popey> hi
[09:45] <prapto> this is active channel?
[09:53] <popey> prapto: yes, more so during the week than at the weekend
[09:57] <saidinesh5> popey:  btw
[09:57] <saidinesh5> "..developer tools are not installed."
[09:57] <saidinesh5> how do i change that?
[09:57] <saidinesh5> also
[10:05] <saidinesh5> for some reason my ubuntu-sdk fails to even build a simple C++ app to run on the device
[10:05] <saidinesh5> http://paste.kde.org/pvqambfaq
[10:30] <prapto> I have low end smartphone with mediatek mt6577. any tutorial to porting ubuntu touch to mediatek?
[10:36] <saidinesh5> so can someone help me figure out why my ubuntu sdk is broken?
[14:24] <peacedog> Any support for Allwinner A13 devices? Thanks.
[14:30] <tbr> !devices
[14:34] <pngo_> Does bluetooth work?
[14:38] <mzanetti> A2DP and HSP work well for me on Nexus4. Currently the only supported profiles though. I think OPUSH and some address book integration (not sure if HFP or PBAP) are in the works currently.
[14:38] <popey> on the supported devices, yes
[16:47] <mardy> mzanetti: hi! did you ever use qmake in a click chroot?
[16:54] <jelkner>  Hi all, I've been unable to get my GPS working on my nexus4.
[16:55] <jelkner> I've asked here about this before, and I was told to "return to the welcome dialog and enable GPS"
[16:55] <jelkner> but I have not been able to figure out how to do that.
[16:56] <jelkner> /usr/bin/test_gps is giving my data
[16:56] <jelkner> s/my/me
[16:56] <jelkner> but neither OSM or Google Maps work
[16:56] <jelkner> They both tell me GPS info is unavailable
[16:57] <jelkner> I just installed the SensorStatus app, which likewise won't give me GPS info
[18:08] <mzanetti> mardy: hey, no, I haven't done so yet.
[18:17] <cwayne> is there an easy way to fake using location service on desktop?
[19:11] <jack____> hi
[19:11] <popey> hi
[19:12] <jack____> could you please tell me how to upgrade kubuntu from terminal
[19:12] <jack____> ?
[19:13] <popey> that sounds like a question for #kubuntu
[19:13] <jack____> yes
[19:13] <K1773R> jack____: then why ur asking here?
[19:14] <jack____> you know?


[09:47] <czajkowski> Aloha
[10:44] <ShaneM> Morning' czajkowski
[10:48] <czajkowski> hows folks
[10:49] <ShaneM> All good.
[10:55] <ebel> morning
[10:55] <czajkowski> sorry missed meeting last ngiht
[10:55] <czajkowski> got held up on trains
[10:55] <czajkowski> then delayed
[10:55] <czajkowski> then dinner
[10:55] <czajkowski> and completely forgot the time
[10:55] <czajkowski> :s
[10:59] <ebel> Heheh No problems :)
[10:59] <ebel> Happened to the best of us sometimes ;)
[11:24] <tdr112> morning
[11:33] <Belserusk> Hi. I've noticed lately that when I hit F2 in nautilus to rename a file, Nautilus closes. Is this some sort of bug? It briefly says 'Starting File Manager' in task bar.
[11:34] <ebel> sounds like it might be  abug
[11:35] <Belserusk> ebel, Yes.
[11:35] <ebel> you can turn on apport, the 'file a bug when a programme crashes' thing
[11:36] <ebel> if that pops up when you see that behaviour you could see that it was a bug
[11:36] <ebel> and you could submit a bug report, which might help it get fixed
[11:36] <Belserusk> ebel, I get no popup
[11:36] <ebel> that isn't on by default anymore
[11:37] <Belserusk> ebel, How do I activate this popup?
[11:38] <ebel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#How to enable apport
[11:38] <ebel> it's called Apport
[11:38] <ebel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport this is the documentation
[11:39] <Belserusk> ebel, thank you.
[11:40] <ebel> That might help.
[11:40] <airurando> just looking at the LD and the meeting from last night is gone.  The 'event' version persists it past events but the meeting entry is gone.
[11:40] <ebel> It won't really stop the problem (if there is on)
[11:40] <airurando> curious