[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> !eol | shyam 5.10 is well past it..
[18:02] <Ienorand> jokkaa: I like decibel for simplicity
[18:02] <Jack_Sparrow> shyam, You need to upgrade 5.10 does not have security updates and has reached end of life
[18:02] <icqnumber> SiDi,  is it the link you have used https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive ?
[18:02] <SiDi> jokkaa, you can try rythmbox, exaile, amarok, listen, quod libet, and there are prolly others
[18:02] <MOUD> jokkaa: I would suggest VLC since it supports many audio and video codecs
[18:02] <High_Speed> can someone point me to info on how I can update to the latest version of alsa drivers?
[18:02] <danub> i accidently stopped a program with ctrl + z, how do i start it again and kill it?
[18:02] <Jack_Sparrow> High_Speed, /join #alsa
[18:02] <High_Speed> thanks!
[18:02] <shyam> thank u
[18:02] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> i don't know about VLC for just normal mp3 playin
[18:03] <Lukasz> !media > jokkaa
[18:03] <IndyGunFreak> i'm sure it works, but there's probably better
[18:03] <icqnumber> SiDi, okey i see, ti is the same thank you
[18:03] <SiDi> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml icqnumber  :)
[18:03] <Lukasz> Jack_Sparrow, Thanks for the hint on using ubottu :)
[18:03] <phrostbite> I downloaded a different themes for the login screen and I can't figure out how to apply it there?
[18:04] <ekp> hi I am having difficulty mounting my DVD recorder player
[18:04] <Jack_Sparrow> phrostbite, drag and drop the tar onto the login manager
[18:04] <ekp> receiving bad block error
[18:04] <Lukasz> High_Speed, Try to look for "alsa-base" package
[18:04] <zeroRooter> ekp: you mean what by mouting it?
[18:04] <zeroRooter> like daemon tools? or actually puttign in a dvd player
[18:04] <icqnumber> SiDi, strange that i was not included in intrepid https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OOo30Schedule
[18:05] <phrostbite> Jack_Sparrow, thank you I will try that..
[18:05] <SiDi> icqnumber, i think it's because it was released just too late for ubuntu devs to integrate it
[18:05] <phrostbite> That worked, thank you.
[18:06] <MOUD> Jack_Sparrow: do you know how can I access my Nokia phone in ubuntu? My phone is found on bluetooth devices
[18:06] <zeroRooter> well thats a first lol j/k
[18:06] <ekp> block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[18:06] <Jack_Sparrow> MOUD, not really
[18:06] <ekp> /dev/scd0: can't read superblock
[18:06] <MOUD> Jack_Sparrow: ok then, thanks
[18:06] <Steve42> who understands full disk encryption.  I have it setup and working because I installed from the alternative cd but I dont understand if all files are decrypted once you enter your passphrase or if they are encrypted/decrypted on every read/write?
[18:06] <Lukasz> MOUD, There's been some bugs regarding accessing NOKIA devices on 8.10, check on launchpad
[18:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ekp, usually means there was an unclean mount, put the flash in a windows box and remove properly or force mount
[18:07] <Lukasz> MOUD, Sorry about getting into question. Maybe Jack knows how to help
[18:07] <ekp> what do you mean to put in a windows box and remove
[18:07] <MOUD> Lukasz: thanks for the tip :)
[18:07] <wisniewski> #ubuntu-de
[18:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ekp, is it a flash drive removeable drive with fat or ntfs partitions?
[18:08] <strangeseraph> why can't I remove all the open office programs without removing english language support? :(
[18:08] <ekp> no it is a DVD drive internal IDE master
[18:08] <Lukasz> MOUD, I myself have one that works only by bluetooth, no chance to mount it.
[18:08] <ekp> does it have something to do with scsi emulation
[18:08] <icqnumber> SiDi,  and looks like it is not even the final release, instead rc1
[18:08] <Steve42> disk encryption help anyone?
[18:09] <MOUD> Lukasz: which phone you have?
[18:09] <SiDi> icqnumber, it's the 3.0.1 rc1 :)
[18:09] <SiDi> icqnumber, the repository is the one for the dev version of ooo for ubuntu (instead of 2.4 its now 3.0.1 rc1, it was still 3.0 a few days ago)
[18:10] <Steve42> last call. i need help with understanding encryption
[18:10] <SiDi> icqnumber, if you want only the stable 3.0 you can remove the repository and download it on openoffice.org
[18:10] <ekp> zeroRooter Jack Sparrow:  It is a LG dvd drive IDE interface jumper set on master
[18:10] <timebomb> what's a good way to incrementally develop a custom ready to deploy version of ubuntu server for a tiny server machine?
[18:10] <mas2> Is it possible to run KDE apps in gnome? I found Krusader (File Manager App) but it said it was for KDE and in Synaptic it wanted me to download alot of files with KDE in it's name. If it is possible what is the cons? Performance or stability?
[18:11] <Steve42> yes, you can run kde apps in gnome
[18:11] <phrostbite> I can't remember what the thing is i need to download to play certain dvd's its like libcvvs or some crazy letters like that
[18:11] <Steve42> once you install the application it will install the needed libraries for kde apps to function
[18:11] <SiDi> mas2, you can but it's a bad idea
[18:11] <ekp> I originally had it as slave to my CDROM and could mount it but switch it to master because could not put boot DVD in it and get it recognized
[18:12] <Steve42> installing ubuntu-restricted-extras will get everything for multimedia and then you can play dvd's
[18:12] <mas2> SiDi: why is it a bad idea?
[18:12] <SiDi> mas2, this means each time you run krusader, it'll run a lot of kde background stuff in order for it to work, and the program will not use your theming, etc
[18:12] <bluevapour>  hey guys tryin to setup a server, using firehol as iptables management, and using lightttpd with ipv6 enabled just in case, lan is fine, outside users can connect to ssh on port 22 fine, but not 80
 http://<IP_ADDRESS>/index.html
 thats the link
[18:12] <phrostbite> where do i get ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[18:12] <Lukasz> MOUD, It's a 5160
[18:13] <Lukasz> MOUD, That's the bug thread https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux/+bug/287701
[18:13] <mas2> SiDi: ah okey then I will not do it. I use Gnome Commander now and it works great and so on but don't like the design on the interface seems like it was made 10 years ago hehe.
[18:13] <SiDi> mas2, and  nautilus has a lot of functions like ssh, ftp (hasardous :P) support. if you want to try another file explorer, i recommand you to use one that is written in gtk (used by gnome apps) instead of qt (kde apps). (for instance you can try Thunar, from XFCE)
[18:13] <_Ben> guys.... blacklist has managed to stop the system from loading 8139cp, BUT sudo /etc/init.d/networking start says error while getting interface flags: no such device
[18:13] <ekp> Jack Sparrow; any ideas?
[18:13] <phrostbite> nvm I found it. Thank you very much.
[18:13] <MOUD> Lukasz: thanks for the link, gonna take a look
[18:14] <ChrisBookwood> My ad-hoc goes down about a minut from start up. If I look in iwconfig, my wifi card has ssid 'CBnet', and when it is down, it has none set. Any ideas to what is deleting the ssid?
[18:14] <Steve42> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:14] <mas2> SiDi: thanks for the explination. Will look up Thunar
[18:14] <Lukasz> MOUD, Maybe you'll find some reports that can help out with your issue
[18:15] <zeroRooter> what does sudp mean? lol
[18:15] <zeroRooter> sudo
[18:15] <MOUD> Lukasz: I hope so :)
[18:15] <Lukasz> SiDi, What aside of Thunar would you recommend?
[18:15] <Lukasz> ZeroGRiD, "super user do" ? ;)
[18:15] <icqnumber> !openoffice.org-pdfimport
[18:15] <Lukasz> haha
[18:15] <ekp> zeroRooter: when I put in DVD it will not mount.....error bad superblocks
[18:16] <icqnumber> !info openoffice.org-pdfimport
[18:16] <SiDi> Lukasz, i don't know any other for gnome. There's nautilus. As Thunar is in gtk it should be properly integrated, but the other file explorers are all in Qt, AFAIK
[18:17] <aquei> aquei,
[18:17] <SiDi> zeroRooter, it means "do as super user"
[18:17] <bluevapour> Can anyone help me please
[18:17] <amews_aj> Is it safe to resize a vista partition using live cd ?
[18:17] <amews_aj> How high risk of failure?
[18:17] <SiDi> bluevapour, ask your question and if someone can, he/she will
[18:17] <SiDi> amews_aj, it did it twice, i once had a failure message but in fact for both tries it succeeded
[18:18] <Jack_Sparrow> amews_aj, There is always risk working at the partition level.. but generally considered safe
[18:18] <SiDi> amews_aj, it remains very risky for a NTFS partition. Please save all your data before.
[18:18] <amews_aj> SiDi: I once tried that xp wouldn't boot again. is it common ?
[18:18] <Jack_Sparrow> amews_aj, Not common, did you defrag twice before resizing
[18:18] <SiDi> amews_aj, NTFS is implemented by reverse engineering. Noone can guarantee wether it'll work or not, even if it will often work :p
[18:19] <SiDi> Yeh always defrag before resizing, it decreases the risk of errors
[18:19] <ben_trauko> amews you'd better back up your winvista disk
[18:19] <Lukasz> SiDi, Nautilus misses some features, like "File Browser" to "Spacial Mode" switching
[18:19] <bluevapour> hmm i guess no1 can
[18:19] <amews_aj> SiDi: If it fails, is there still a way to make it ok again?
[18:19] <Jack_Sparrow> amews_aj, Also .. if you have limited free space, it increases the dangers
[18:19] <amews_aj> or at least to get files out ?
[18:19] <Jack_Sparrow> amews_aj, Dont plan on it
[18:20] <wisniewski> hy can someone help me i had mounted my ntfs drive on xubuntu and after restart i have no promission for it
[18:20] <Jack_Sparrow> amews_aj, Backup what you cant afford to lose.
[18:20] <SiDi> amews_aj, if your data has been entirely saved you can remake the partition and then put the data back. thus *save your data* !
[18:20] <Somethief> windows can usually correct the errors made by ntfs-3g but you should still have a backup
[18:20] <amews_aj> Jack_Sparrow: k, how much difference is there from installing an OS on internal hdd or external hdd?
[18:20] <Avengingwatcher> I am going to be setting up an Ubuntu Server and I haven't been command line in a while so I was gonna install XFCE over it. The server will be a dedicated server and on an extra box so nothing mission critical yet. On a scale of 1 to 10 10 being highest how difficult do you think the transition should be?
[18:20] <amews_aj> how much speed difference ?
[18:20] <ekp> SiDi: do you have any idea why I can not mount my DVD drive in 8.10?  Did work before when slave to CDROM but now as master will not
[18:20] <Somethief> amews_aj big
[18:20] <Jack_Sparrow> amews_aj, externals seem to be much harder because of the bootloader issue
[18:20] <Lukasz> _Ben, Try, under root "ifconfig" to see if your kernel shows up any net devices
[18:21] <SiDi> amews_aj, the difference is between USB and SATA. Huge performance decrease with USB disks
[18:21] <amews_aj> SiDi: how much
[18:21] <SiDi> ekp no idea, sorry
[18:21] <wisniewski> con someone help
[18:21] <ekp> thnkd
[18:21] <ekp> thnks
[18:21] <henrik-_> Hello!!
[18:21] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g | wisniewski
[18:21] <_Ben> lukasz, just the loopback
[18:21] <SiDi> amews_aj, i think you can write like 2/3 times faster on a SATA (internal) disk
[18:21] <henrik-_> I have a problem with my Windows XP installation and Ubuntu.
[18:22] <henrik-_> I installed Windows XP, and then I installed ubuntu 8.10
[18:22] <wisniewski> the drive is mounted but i cant opent it after restatr
[18:22] <SiDi> amews_aj, and as they're meant to be used for OS's i think constructors make better quality disks if they're internal (as they usually have 5yr warranty and not 3 like usb external disks)
[18:22] <opera> w
[18:22] <_Ben> lukasz, im trying to force the 8139 module to load with initramfs atm
[18:22] <henrik-_> Now, when I try to boot, I get BSOD. So, if I try to install Windows XP again, will it write over GRUB?
[18:22] <gehel__> amews_aj: perfomances depends a lot on the kind of drives you have. You can find very fast external HDD on firewire.
[18:22] <amews_aj> SiDi: K, I have a vista partition on 111 GB, 45 gb free. Do you think it is ok decreasing that by 20 gb
[18:22] <ikonia> henrik-_: it will overwrite grub, you'll have to replace it
[18:22] <sachael> are there any pitfalls when installing Ubuntu besides an existing Vista installtion?
[18:22] <henrik-_> If so, how do I install Grub after the WinXP installation?
[18:22] <ikonia> henrik-_: take the BSOD message to ##windows channel and they can help debug it
[18:22] <henrik-_> ikonia: That's what I figured, but what is the easiest way?
[18:23] <[hydra]> henrik- windows xp will write over grub
[18:23] <ikonia> henrik-_: re-installing grub to the mbr after windows is not a massive task
[18:23] <SiDi> amews_aj, if you didn't forget to save your data it's ok :) but actually 45gb will be enough for an ubuntu install :)
[18:23] <daredevilthere> henrik-_: use ubuntu live cd ti repair grub
[18:23] <gehel__> amews_aj: rule of thumb on any partition type is to keep 10% free to avoid too much fragmentation
[18:23] <henrik-_> ikonia: well, I get BSOD for 1/5 second, so I have no idea what's wrong.
[18:23] <amews_aj> SiDi: 45 of the 111 gb free
[18:23] <henrik-_> Safe mode won't work either, so I guess I'll just have to reinstall Windows XP.
[18:23] <SiDi> amews_aj, for the OS, 15GB, 4GB (or 2 if you have 2GB ram) of swap, and there are 25gb left for your home partition
[18:23] <amews_aj> have to resize
[18:23] <gil> Hey, I'm picking up my wireless network but when I try to connect it hang on "attempting to join wireless network" for a while, then it asks for the key, I type it in and it hangs on "attempting" again
[18:23] <ikonia> henrik-_: most common cause (not fact) is that you didn't chkdisk /defrag your windows disk before ubuntu install
[18:23] <vigo> What if root is not installed?
[18:23] <gil> It cycles through that for a while, any ideas?
[18:24] <opera> i have down adobereader*.deb with firefox,but i can't install with double thick. how should i do
[18:24] <daredevilthere> henrik-_: reinstall windows than repair grub
[18:24] <Araneidae> I cannot open my DVD tray -- `eject` does nothing (have tried -r and root).  Any suggestions?
[18:24] <henrik-_> daredevilthere: okay, so I boot from the CD, I open partition editor (GParted) and then what?
[18:24] <sachael> gil, isn't there a drop-box with the type of the key that you enter; try the other options
[18:24] <henrik-_> Is there a button saying "Repair Grub"?
[18:24] <Somethief> opera why cant you install it?
[18:24] <SiDi> opera, check if you have GDebi, for installing .deb files graphically
[18:24] <Jack_Sparrow> opera, double click should do a deb.. what error do you get
[18:24] <gil> sachael: I've tried several options I believe, but I'll try it again now
[18:24] <wisniewski> no one an idea
[18:24] <daredevilthere> opera: do frm terminal sudodpkg -i adobereader*.deb
[18:24] <High_Speed> can someone help me figure out why my sound card worked under ubuntu but not ubuntulite?
[18:24] <SiDi> amews_aj, i'm going to eat. Ask Jack_Sparrow if you have any other questions, he's prolly wiser than me ;)
[18:24] <gehel__> Araneidae: some process is probably locking the drive. try running "lsof /dev/dvd"
[18:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Araneidae, umount it first
[18:25] <grobda24> Just somehow managed to "sudo rm *" in my home directory. Only lost two minor files, but I have lost all of the ",settings" files ! Is there a way te regenerate default installed files like .profile ?
[18:25] <gharz> guys, i've just installe xchm... but whenever i open a .chm file xchm doesn't open it... i have to open the .chm file thru Applications->Office->xCHM... how do i set my machine to associate .chm files with xCHM?
[18:25] <sachael> gil, i got a similar problem until i realised that the option that is selected by default isn't the correct one
[18:25] <grobda24> ".settings"*
[18:25] <Araneidae> gehel__, I already ran `umount -l`, which has worked in the past ...
[18:25] <_Ben> lukasz, just thought... it wouldn't be that pci devices dont work in linux-386 would it?
[18:25] <gehel__> gharz: copy files from /etc/skel
[18:25] <adaptr> grobda24: * does not match dotfiles by default; what did you REALLY do ?
[18:25] <daredevilthere> grobda24: i think they would b back
[18:25] <Araneidae> It's true, there are programs fighting me for it (under wine)
[18:25] <gharz> gehel__: which files should i copy?
[18:25] <gharz> the .chm files?
[18:25] <opera> when i double click, it let me choose the fit file to open it
[18:26] <gil> sachael: that actually happened to me on this computer with an earlier version of ubuntu, I changed the type and it started working but that doesn't seem to be working here
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> grobda24, silly boy.. You can also try booting a livecd and copying that config info over
[18:26] <nownot> im trying to pass a post variable to a python script. how does the code look on the python end to accept this variable
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> nownot, Try #python programming channel ty
[18:26] <Araneidae> The device is now unmounted, indeed there is no dvd device anymore
[18:27] <grobda24> adaptr, you're right. They're there ! Guess I panicked a bit. "ls" does not list .files either which threw me as well.
[18:27] <gil> Hey, my network-manager hangs on "Attempting to join wireless network", anyone know how to get around that?
[18:27] <nownot> Jack_Sparrow: im in there but there willingness to help with something this low level is next to none
[18:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Araneidae, if this is for swapping disks under wine.. /join #winehq
[18:27] <grobda24> Jack_Sparrow, good idea .. if anything has been lost.
[18:28] <Jack_Sparrow> nownot, and it is offtopic here
[18:28] <daredevilthere> can u tell me how can i mount drives so that specific user has read write access
[18:28] <gharz> guys, how do i associate .chm files with xCHM? i installed xCHM but i can't double click the .chm file to open it
[18:28] <wisniewski> always when i try to open the drive promission denies
[18:28] <grobda24> nownot, is it #python ?
[18:28] <Jack_Sparrow> daredevilthere, you can read up on fstab and set permissions there on the mount
[18:28] <sachael> are there any pitfalls when installing Ubuntu besides an existing Vista installtion?
[18:29] <_Ben> lukasz, still isnt working
[18:29] <gil> With the issue I'm having, someone said they killed all services for NetworkManager and it started working, can someone tell me how to do that?
[18:29] <daredevilthere> Jack_Sparrow: from where
[18:29] <daredevilthere> Jack_Sparrow: any help
[18:29] <Lukasz> _Ben, No, rather impossible.
[18:30] <grobda24> sachael, you could check the http://help.ubuntu.com wiki that lists the issues.
[18:30] <_Ben> lukasz, whats rather impossible?
[18:30] <henrik-_> Damn, looks like my NTFS partition is corrupted.
[18:30] <Lukasz> _Ben, Linux not supporting PCI devs
[18:30] <_Ben> lol ok :)
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> daredevilthere, man fstab .. sorry, but I am trying to enjoy breakfast atm
[18:30] <henrik-_> I can't find it when I booted from the WinXP CD.
[18:31] <_Ben> just that pci wasnt invented when 386's first came out
[18:31] <daredevilthere> Jack_Sparrow: alrite sry il read that
[18:31] <gil> Anyone know how to get NetworkManager to stop hanging at "Attempting to connect to wireless network"?
[18:31] <Lukasz> _Ben, I'd consider creating a thread on http://ubuntuforums.org
[18:31] <opera> i do what sudokpg ...it say command not find
[18:31] <_Ben> ok lukasz. I'll do that
[18:31] <Lukasz> _Ben, I'm sorry, i can't help you with that, I'm not good at hardware, sorry.
[18:31] <daredevilthere> opera: sorry leave a space
[18:32] <_Ben> ok no worries.
[18:32] <daredevilthere> opera:  sudo dpkg -i file.deg
[18:32] <_Ben> oh and thanks very much for your effort :)
[18:32] <Jack_Sparrow> daredevilthere, permissions set there are the reverse of  normal permissions like 775 etc
[18:32] <cmv583> i need help with uibuntu on usb. I've been at it for a few days now and not sure enough that I won't mess up existing data. Not sure how to backup either.
[18:32] <Lukasz> _Ben, Let's not make it too big :)
[18:32] <bashca> hi there i tried backup my  os  using aptoncd  but i got this error FATAL -> Failed to fork.
[18:32] <Tonno> Hi everyone, I found a Usplash on gnome-look.org, And I would like to install it in my PC, but I don't know how to install it because is a .tar.gz, can someone here help me out? pleases
[18:33] <rainycloud> gents, proftpd is not listing directory structure when used externally, interestingly when configuring the proftpd.conf file since i am behind a nat router, it is accessing it just fine internally but the host file seems to be taking <IP_ADDRESS> instead of <IP_ADDRESS> , could this be the reason externally the directroty structure is not listing? as when i use <IP_ADDRESS> its not listing internally but when i use <IP_ADDRESS> it is..
[18:33] <ikonia> !away > TCM|Away
[18:33] <daredevilthere> Tonno: Is a a gdm login splash?
[18:33] <rainycloud> Tonno put that uplash screen in the grub folder and edit the grub conf file if it is a grub splash file..
[18:34] <Lukasz> _Ben, I'm sure some Ubuntu dev or just more experienced user will help yoo out with that
[18:35] <Lukasz> _Ben, Before making a thread you could try to "ask" google about "the chipset name" + "your Ubuntu version"
[18:35] <gharz> anyone who can help me associate .chm files with xCHM?
[18:35] <_Ben> lukasz, done that all day :D
[18:35] <Lukasz> _Ben, Well, I'm assuming you've done that already :)
[18:36] <batcoder-7> did 8.10 become more resourceful ?
[18:36] <opera> daredevil* ,I TAPY Again, it shows  another program have add . maybe i should download again.
[18:36] <Tonno> daredevilthere, no... is a Usplash... like this rainycloud  http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=68031&file1=68031-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Usplash+theme+Ubuntu+Studio
[18:36] <gharz> how do i associate .chm files with xCHM? searched google but no definite answer.
[18:36] <Lukasz> batcoder-7, It ships with the newest GNOME so, it migh certainly affect
[18:37] <batcoder-7> Lukasz: any other things ?
[18:37] <Tonno> rainycloud, and were is the grub folder?
[18:37] <Qid_Ubt-Usb> hello
[18:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonno, Sorry for asking is this for the grub screen or the screen after that
[18:37] <Lukasz> batcoder-7, Tracker is enabled by default, look into preferences and check "smart pausing"
[18:38] <atomic__> I have what I think is an interesting problem.
[18:38] <Tonno> I did not understand that Jack_Sparrow
[18:38] <atomic__> I downloaded picard and let it "fix" my music files.
[18:38] <Lukasz> batcoder-7, It's rather general question that yours. Any details?
[18:38] <atomic__> I was having some trouble with my internet connection so it made my directories a little screwed up.
[18:39] <batcoder-7> Lukasz: its just ab it sluggish, i use xubuntu actually so it should actually be lighter hhe
[18:39] <gil> When I try connecting a wireless network, I hang on the "Attempting to join the wireless network", anyone know how to get around this?
[18:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonno, Sorry for asking is this for a graphic behind the grub screen or for after you select ubuntu in the grub menu
[18:39] <Guest47899> un aiuto ho scricato un file dei drive stampante hp ed in  run   come faccio ad installarlo grazie
[18:39] <atomic__> /media/disk-1/music/AC_DC/Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap/AC_DC/Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap/AC_DC/Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
[18:39] <Qid_Ubt-Usb> excuse me for my bad english ... I would like to know if it is possible to start a program on ssh on 2 computer
[18:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !it > Guest47899
[18:40] <atomic__> As you can see I need a way to remove the extra directories.
[18:40] <Tonno> I did not understand that either... I don't know about english to much :(
[18:40] <Lukasz> batcoder-7, Yeah, it should but XFCE is getting heavier from release to release
[18:40] <Lukasz> batcoder-7, Is it that bad?
[18:41] <batcoder-7> well
[18:41] <batcoder-7> i am on a celeron 2.8
[18:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonno, What language channel would you like?
[18:41] <Lukasz> batcoder-7, Sorry, need to go "away" for a longer moment
[18:41] <atomic__> I do not want to delete music/artist/album but I would like to get rid of artist/album/artist/album
[18:41] <Lukasz> batcoder-7, Will be back soon
[18:42] <gharz> anybody around who can help me how to associate .chm file with xCHM?
[18:42] <batcoder-7> Lukasz: ok
[18:42] <ChrisBookwood> My ad-hoc goes down about a minut from start up. If I look in iwconfig, my wifi card has ssid 'CBnet', and when it is down, it has none set. Any ideas to what is deleting the ssid?
[18:42] <Tonno> Jack_Sparrow, #ubuntu-es. But I don't know what going on with the channel, bacause.. everytime that I try to get in... Ubuntu Server say that I and .... banned :S
[18:42] <mankash> how to enable telnet
[18:42] <Jack_Sparrow> atomic__, gksudo nautilus.. but it is not forgiving if you make a mistake. Exit as soon as you make your changes
[18:42] <atomic__> gharz: Open with?
[18:43] <mankash> how to enable telnet
[18:43] <atomic__> Jack_Sparrow: Yes I can manualy cut the files then paste them in the target directory and delete the rest but I was hoping someone would know of an automatic solution.
[18:44] <Jack_Sparrow> atomic__, no automatic process for that
[18:44] <Jack_Sparrow> mankash,  please hold down on the repeats
[18:44] <Tonno> Jack_Sparrow, #ubuntu-es. But I don't know what going on with the channel, bacause.. everytime that I try to get in... Ubuntu Server say that I and .... banned :S
[18:44] <Somethief> atomic__ you could write some kind of automatic script for it
[18:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonno, You were banned for not following the rules..
[18:45] <atomic__> Jack_Sparrow: I've got 8 gigs of this type of stuff. :)
[18:45] <Tonno> Jack_Sparrow, rules? what rules? :-|
[18:45] <Jack_Sparrow> atomic__, there is no automatic solution for file management
[18:46] <atomic__> Around 400 artist directories.
[18:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonno, this is the wrongchannel for discussing it
[18:46] <sldkfsjldkf> how do i find out what video card driver im using?
[18:46] <Stargazer> How do i use bluetooth on my laptop, it's pretty new.
[18:46] <atomic__> Somethief: Where do I start looking?
[18:46] <daredevilthere> Stargazer: install bluez-utiles
[18:46] <Tonno> Jack_Sparrow, ohhh ok... sorry
[18:46] <Jack_Sparrow> sldkfsjldkf, lspci | grep -i vga should show you the right pci port for setting up the video card in your xorg
[18:46] <daredevilthere> !bluez
[18:47] <daredevilthere> !bluez-utiles
[18:47] <daredevilthere> !bluetooth
[18:47] <Somethief> atomic__ i dont really know if there are any but keywords like "linux music file automatic organizer" etc could produce some good stuff in google
[18:47] <Reset_By_Fear> hi
[18:47] <sldkfsjldkf> Jack_Sparrow, that will also show the version number?
[18:47] <Tonno> Jack_Sparrow, So I'll have to get in google to see how do I install that Usplash ... I hate google
[18:47] <daredevilthere> Tonno: wht u wanna install
[18:48] <daredevilthere> ?
[18:48] <cmv583> Tonno: www.gzip.org/
[18:48] <atomic__> Stargazer: What do you want to do with bluetooth?
[18:48] <Jack_Sparrow> sldkfsjldkf, not  sure
[18:48] <Tonno> daredevilthere, A usplash
[18:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !usplash
[18:48] <Reset_By_Fear> i have upgraded my ubuntu from 8.04 to 8.10 now my kernel is 2.6.27-9-generic, ive done apt-get update and apt-get upgrade but still that is the kernel version i got.im expecting it to be 2.6.27-11-generic.am i doing wrong?
[18:49] <Reset_By_Fear> anyone?
[18:49] <batcoder-7> i need ot figure out why my system is being so resoruceful when that much stuff is not even running
[18:49] <gharz> atomic__: i can open it with Open With... but the thing is i want to open it by just double clicking the .chm file and it will open with xCHM.
[18:49] <Tonno> daredevilthere, A usplash, you know what it is?
[18:50] <Bax> I'm trying to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 (and up till I eventually hit 8.10), but right now my update manager is having trouble locating the files needed for 7.10.  From what I learned last night when I last worked on this, I had to add some old.ubuntu html address to my repository list, but it didn't work for me.  Can any one help me?
[18:50] <Stargazer> Atomic__, i want to transfer music to my phone, it has a firewire port but it's only charging when i connect it.
[18:50] <batcoder-7> this gnome system monitor is eating 30 percent of my cpu ?
[18:50] <batcoder-7> what is this thing doing ?
[18:50] <Reset_By_Fear> how can i upgrade my kernel using apt-get?
[18:50] <Somethief> Stargazer easiest way is to take the memory card and plug it in directly
[18:50] <Somethief> alot faster also
[18:50] <andresmh> i can't figure out how to configure the app switcher in compiz so the only thing it does is show the list of apps and let me go from one to the other
[18:50] <whyameye> is there an app that will record my actions in a web browser, then play them back?
[18:51] <MaT-dg> good tool to record desktop?
[18:51] <atomic__> Stargazer: I use blueman bluetooth manager.
[18:51] <guntbert> Reset_By_Fear: it seems on 8.10 its 2.6.27-9 right now
[18:51] <andresmh> i want to disable the effect that gives focus to the selected widodow
[18:51] <Stargazer> Somethief, it's a tracfone... no cards.
[18:51] <Jack_Sparrow> bax sudo do-release upgrade             didnt work
[18:51] <Reset_By_Fear> guntbert: are we having the same kernel version?
[18:51] <guntbert> Reset_By_Fear: it looks so
[18:51] <Jack_Sparrow> andresmh, /join #compiz
[18:52] <atomic__> I can transfer files to and from my phone and I'm even connected to the internet from my phone through bluetooth.
[18:52] <Reset_By_Fear> guntbert: im wondering my classmate is using 27-11
[18:52] <dirkheine> hello people
[18:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Reset_By_Fear, does he have backports or porposed enabled?
[18:52] <dirkheine> I can't find the output to use for Xrandr
[18:53] <Reset_By_Fear> Jack_Sparrow: sorry. i have no idea
[18:53] <guntbert> Reset_By_Fear: I'm not too concerned about the latest kernel, but I guess he might be experimenting with 9.04 alpha
[18:53] <Reset_By_Fear> hmm
[18:53] <dirkheine> only thing I can find in man xrandr, xrandr -h and the wiki is to write 'xrandr' but that gives "Screen 0" and if I use that it gives 'output not found'
[18:53] <Bax> Jack_Sparrow: you're asking me to use that terminal command?  I'll try it now
[18:54] <atomic__> I wonder if I could find something that would strip all of the files out of any directories and stick them back in /music then rerun picard to fix my problem?
[18:54] <Reset_By_Fear> guntbert: anyways if you are using the same version with mine then i guess i dont have to do magical commands just to reach to the latest kernel version of linux as long as this version im using now is the release supported version of ubuntu desktop. am i right?
[18:55] <sonoblaise> Is it possible that the Lazarus version given with Intrepid is incorrect??  I installed it yesterday and even if the IDE runs, I get a lot of trouble...  such as: the application directory disapeared!  Synaptic tells me that it installed stuff in the /usr/share/lazarus directory, but when I go there (i need to chmod the location to give total access to it so I can recompile the IDE), I don't find anything...
[18:55] <Jack_Sparrow> atomic__, You will not find a program to do that automatically, but it could be scripted but that is offtopic, it is not part of ubuntu support
[18:55] <guntbert> Reset_By_Fear: thats the way I see it too :), you know for me stability is a major goal
[18:56] <grobda24> Hello. I transferred Wubi using LVPM to a new drive. I also use grub "map" command to get around the lack of a bootable primary windows drive (I boot using the second drive). I have differing and erroneous size reading on the new (ext3) drive.
[18:56] <Reset_By_Fear> damn virtualbox 2.1 is very easy to run host interface that version lower than 2.1
[18:56] <Reset_By_Fear> right guntbert
[18:57] <Bax> Jack_Sparrow: negative, you're terminal command doesn't work
[18:57] <guntbert> Reset_By_Fear: for virtualbox issues there is #vbox :)
[18:57] <Reset_By_Fear> btw, i have my 2gb usb flash disk here, since this 8.10 has Create USB startup disk, does this mean all the installed packages in my box will also be copied to my usb flash disk?
[18:57] <themiddleman> is it a bad idea to give firefox a lower nice value
[18:57] <atomic__> Jack_Sparrow: Yes I realize this is offtopic. I thought I may find someone in a linux related channel to help me. I'll look elsewhere.
[18:57] <themiddleman> ?
[18:57] <anti_theocon> hey all...i got a question...sound system...anybody?
[18:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Bax, sounds like your sources are all messed up..
[18:58] <batcoder-7> whoa is pidgin a resource hog ?
[18:58] <usser> Reset_By_Fear: no, i think that creates a basic live cd/usb without any packages that you've installed
[18:59] <skydart> anti_theocon, be more specific.
[18:59] <anti_theocon> streaming audio, well audio input in general screwed up...
[18:59] <batcoder-7> can someone englighten me if Gnome-system monitor is needed ?
[19:00] <Reset_By_Fear> usser: thanks bro
[19:00] <batcoder-7> i almost feel like i should just be running gnome
[19:00] <IG0Rr> hey
[19:00] <IG0Rr> :)
[19:00] <anti_theocon> thanks for assistance! i am running gnome desktop...audio playback is fine
[19:00] <Bax> Jack_Sparrow: from what I read around, they no longer store the source packages to upgrade from 7.04, any idea where I can get them and how to redirect my upgrade manager to them?
[19:00] <batcoder-7> Xfce doesnt feel so light anymore
[19:00] <SackFace> hellas! can anyone with up-to-date intrepid post the output of: cat /proc/mounts | grep static
[19:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Bax, I thought you added the old repos to your source.list?
[19:01] <Reset_By_Fear> i wonder why was ubuntu not used in EEEPC
[19:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Reset_By_Fear, they took ubuntu and refitted it to their specific hardware
[19:01] <SiDi> /dev/disk/by-uuid/2ead5cec-5a96-4494-ac5a-5178677ece68 /dev/.static/dev ext3 ro,errors=remount-ro,commit=1200,data=ordered 0 0 SackFace
[19:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !eeepc
[19:01] <SackFace> thanks!
[19:01] <GodfatherofEir1> Whats the command for untarring and installing a file from the terminal?
[19:02] <anti_theocon> sound recorder and audacity just hanging when i try to record something
[19:02] <Reset_By_Fear> Jack_Sparrow: what do you mean by refitted? im sorry im no english expert
[19:02] <Bax> Jack_Sparrow: I thought I did to, doesn't mean I did it right
[19:02] <Somethief> GodfatherofEir1 depends on is it compressed
[19:02] <Somethief> if its .tar.gz then tar zxvf <file>
[19:03] <GodfatherofEir1> somethief, thanks, for some reason I was thinking it was untar xvcf
[19:03] <Stargazer> Hey guys, i have a Verizon Blitz and i would like to connect it to my laptop. any tips ?
[19:03] <Jack_Sparrow> bax http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/           ?
[19:03] <opera> GOD＊， try 'tar xvf'
[19:03] <GodfatherofEir1> opera, I think I got it
[19:04] <opera> oh
[19:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Bax, sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list    (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[19:06] <m0RrE> hello, i ordered some new computer components yesterday and was wondering how good is the 64bit suppourt nowdays?
[19:06] <Slart_> m0RrE: I would say very good
[19:06] <m0RrE> will it do any good to switch over?
[19:06] <m0RrE> really?
[19:06] <anti_theocon> hda intel alsa mixer works in playback, but not working in record as default
[19:06] <Bodsda> m0RrE, good, i have no problems with it
[19:06] <m0RrE> ah nice
[19:06] <Slart_> m0RrE: not really unless you want to use 4GB or more memory
[19:06] <m0RrE> Slart_: 6gb :)
[19:07] <Slart_> m0RrE: it's supposed to be a little faster for some special stuff.. but I doubt you'd notice it without using some kind of benchmark
[19:07] <edgy>  Hi, I want to connect my intrepid box to the internet via ISA server, is this possible? I changed my ip and gateway but I can't ping or connect!
[19:07] <m0RrE> aha
[19:07] <Bodsda> m0RrE, the only thing i would say is bad about 64bit is that some small 3rd party applications dont have support for it, but all 'mainstreem' stuff does
[19:07] <Slart_> m0RrE: ah.. then it is 64 bit for you or you'll only be seeing 3,6 GB of those
[19:07] <m0RrE> aight
[19:08] <m0RrE> i'm going to use intel i7 920 + 6gb ddr-3 ram
[19:08] <ubuntu> and?
[19:08] <m0RrE> i noticed that intel i7 isn't really supported yet?
[19:08] <ubuntu> yep
[19:08] <ubuntu> show off
[19:08] <m0RrE> any qualified guesses when it will be in the kernel?
[19:09] <ubuntu> dunno
[19:09] <m0RrE> it has been out for 2 months now, pretty surprised that it isn't supported yet :o
[19:09] <ubuntu> >_>
[19:09] <Jack_Sparrow> m0RrE, Try asking in #ubuntu+1
[19:09] <ubuntu> you are a boing man
[19:09] <bluevapour> anyone able to help me with firehol?
[19:10] <ubuntu> From which country are you
[19:10] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu offtopic
[19:10] <Mr`Smith> Okay, there is a function in Ubuntu, in the keyboard shortcuts, one is allowed to setup a shortcut to zoom in and zoom out of what is displayed on their screen, regardless of what it is, and then wherever they'd have their mouse, would more or less determine where the zoom would be focused at. I was wondering, what package, part, or whatever, in Ubuntu allows it to have and utilize this function, and how could I go about getting it in
[19:10] <ubuntu> ?!
[19:10] <ubuntu> ?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!!?
[19:10] <threatrix> I changed some permissions on the home folder and now when I log in it tells me it cant update the ICEAuthority wont update
[19:12] <Bodsda> Mr`Smith, compiz offers this function, via the 'Magnifier' plugin
[19:13] <al_capone> hi
[19:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi
[19:14] <al_capone> my HP 1005 printer does not any more since the upgrade to 8.10
[19:14] <al_capone> does anyone have ideas why?
[19:14] <kiwi__> hi, i have a problem with my keyboard. layout is US-INTL. However, pressing the key for quotation marks (next to ENTER) requires two hits. even more strange, if i look at my emails sended the quotation sign turns into somtething different (an s with a hat on top). how can i fix this?
[19:14] <Mr`Smith> Would I be able to activate it by keyboard shortcut still, and.. I remember seeing that before, though, I don't know if it was in the gnome window manager that seems to be the only one to work decently, would I be able to get it on this one here? Could I zoom out completely to 100% so it would display as 'normal' and not zoomed?
[19:14] <FireFox||> m0RrE : How do you mean it isn't supported? (I'm bout to have one to)
[19:14] <Belboz99> Hey all, having trouble accessing my VBox with rdesktop-vrdp, it keeps on just showing a black screen for a fraction of a second and then disappearing, I believe it's an authentication problem, but there's really no output
[19:14] <ekp> need command to grant permissions to all devices on system
[19:15] <al_capone> it is connected via usb and lsusb shows it as recognized and the ducuments even enter the printer que
[19:15] <thln> hi all, i'm looking for a small program to modify the speed of videos and to insert textblocks. any suggestions?
[19:15] <Bax> Jack_Sparrow: it says it's unable to read from /etc/apt/source.list
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Bax, not good..
[19:16] <threatrix> I changed the permissions of my home folder to 644 because of an error that was showing up when I loged i now after I changed those permissions its giving me and error that says could not update ICEauthority file and then it says on the next bubble config server error /usr/lib/libgcong2-4/gconf-sanity-check-s
[19:16] <Rukasuzu> Hi people
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Bax, you are probalbly due for a fresh install anyhow
[19:16] <threatrix> check-2*
[19:16] <TheFunkbomb> In Windows, I have a program called Sensura Headphone Theater.  It allows me to alter how things sound.  Is there anything like this for Ubuntu?
[19:16] <TheFunkbomb> for example, I can make music sound louder and richer than the stock output
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl
[19:16] <Bax> Jack_Sparrow: you mean I got to upgrade all the way to 8.10 from a CD?
[19:17] <TheFunkbomb> right now, MP3s sound pretty flat.
[19:17] <luca_> ciao  a tutti
[19:17] <luca_> qlcn puo aiutarmi a capire 2 cose in amule?
[19:17] <al_capone> bax: just download the  newest cd and then there shouldn't be too much updating left
[19:18] <luca_> kad firewalled e id basso
[19:18] <luca_> aperte già le porte del router
[19:18] <Stonehambey> does anyone know how I can bind an application to a keyboard shortcut?
[19:18] <Itaku> is there any documents on learning C?
[19:18] <pain> !en
[19:18] <TheFunkbomb> I can translate
[19:18] <Mr`Smith> In accessibility, I see in Preferred applications, under the accessibility tab, the Visual section gives me the option of 'Orca with Magnifier', could this be a feasible equivilent?
[19:18] <Bodsda> Mr`Smith, I would suggest trying it out to see if you like it, yes it is activated via keyboard shortcut and yes you can zoom in and out all the way -- i just cjecked and you may prefer desktop zoom rather than the magnifier. Would you like me to walk you through how to enable it?
[19:18] <Itaku> !C
[19:18] <Abed> hey guys , lsn i have a freakin problem with my firefox, when i launch the firefox, the bar when the close button and minimize is hidden but when i press F11 { Full Screen Mode } and remove the full screen mode again , it appears , so anyone?
[19:19] <Itaku> !c++
[19:19] <Itaku> !c#
[19:19] <Bax> al_capone: but I heard it's unstable to suddenly upgrade pass a previous release.  Will my files and installed programs be screwed with when upgrading directly to 8.10 from a cd?
[19:19] <Bodsda> Mr`Smith, my suggestion is a compiz effect not an accessability option
[19:19] <TheFunkbomb> I thought C# was a windows only language
[19:19] <luca_> qlcn puo aiutarmi ? grazie
[19:19] <luca_> chiedo consiglio
[19:19] <Mr`Smith> Well, if you could point me in the right direction at least, that would be swell.  ^_^
[19:19] <luca_> su amule
[19:19] <al_capone> did you have a seperate home partition?
[19:19] <Bodsda> TheFunkbomb, i believe it was developed by MS but it is only a language after all
[19:19] <al_capone> if so all you files will be the same
[19:19] <pain> Itaku, a real good book on c++ is the c++ programming byt stephen prada
[19:20] <luca_> qlcn puo aiutarmi?
[19:20] <Bodsda> Mr`Smith, can i ask what graphics card you have?
[19:20] <al_capone> if not back then up and then do a clean reinstall
[19:20] <TheFunkbomb> Bodsda, I got my wireless to work :D
[19:20] <Bodsda> TheFunkbomb, cool!, what was the fix?
[19:20] <Abed> hey guys , lsn i have a freakin problem with my firefox, when i launch the firefox, the bar when the close button and minimize is hidden but when i press F11 { Full Screen Mode } and remove the full screen mode again , it appears , so anyone?
[19:20] <Itaku> pain: is it downloadable?
[19:20] <Mr`Smith> Hmm... Some ATI somethign or another, just a moment.
[19:20] <TheFunkbomb> Bodsda, I had to hook up via ethernet cable and run some updates
[19:20] <Toast> Trying to connect a remote X application to my Intrepid desktop, I'm getting lots of this error in the applications console output. "X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter)". Could anyone help me debug the problem please?
[19:20] <TheFunkbomb> so simple
[19:20] <daredevilthere> How can i mount so that to give specfic user rw permission
[19:20] <pain> luca_, prata* even... hmm, well, google is your friend... =)
[19:20] <Bodsda> TheFunkbomb, dman lol :)
[19:20] <ChrisBookwood> My ad-hoc goes down about a minut from start up. If I look in iwconfig, my wifi card has ssid 'CBnet', and when it is down, it has none set. Any ideas to what is deleting the ssid?
[19:21] <TheFunkbomb> Now I'm addicted to Ubuntu.  I'm trying to get my mom and dad to use it
[19:21] <FireFox||> Anyone knows if HyperThreathing is officially suported by ubuntu
[19:21] <Mr`Smith> Where's the easiest place to find it? I'm not too familiar with Fedora nor linux quite yet.
[19:21] <Bodsda> Mr`Smith, fedora? you are not using ubuntu?
[19:22] <Bodsda> TheFunkbomb, good luck, i got my girlfriend using it :)
[19:22] <Mr`Smith> I am in fact using Fedora, yes, I was able to enable the feature in Fedora, wanted to know if there was a way I could get some sort of equivilent on Fedora
[19:22] <FireFox||> Bodsda: so now you can bash her ?:d
[19:22] <FireFox||> Bodsda: sorry that was inappropriate
[19:22] <TheFunkbomb> My dad has no interest.  My mom wants to know what it's all about but she is not technically advanced.
[19:22] <al_capone> !fedora
[19:23] <Bodsda> Mr`Smith, yes if you have compiz installed but you would have to talk to the guys in #fedora about that
[19:23] <TheFunkbomb> but as long as she doesn't have root access, I figure she can't muck things up too badly
[19:23] <Bodsda> FireFox||, haha, something like that yeah
[19:23] <FireFox||> :)
[19:23] <Bodsda> TheFunkbomb, sudo is a wonderful tool, perhaps consider SELinux
[19:23] <TheFunkbomb> We'll see.  I'll start with my brother who is the most advanced.
[19:24] <Mr`Smith> Well, from what I can see in the programs manager, it is in fact installed.
[19:24] <Bodsda> Mr`Smith, ok, unfortunately im not supposed to help you in this channel, do you mind if i pm you?
[19:24] <Dev_n00b> for all you wonderfull people, some of which have helped me with my ubuntu tribulations, Newegg.com has the Asus EEE PC 4g surf for $249.99 and a coupon code of EMCABAGAJ to knock $50 more off...
[19:25] <Mr`Smith> Have at it! =D
[19:25] <Bodsda> Mr`Smith, is that a yes?
[19:25] <Mr`Smith> That is a yes.
[19:25] <Bodsda> :)
[19:25] <Abed> hey guys , lsn i have a freakin problem with my firefox, when i launch the firefox, the bar when the close button and minimize is hidden but when i press F11 { Full Screen Mode } and remove the full screen mode again , it appears , so anyone?
[19:25] <TheFunkbomb> I do need a better MP3 player that will allow me to alter the sound a bit
[19:26] <TheFunkbomb> Rythymbox is kind of flat
[19:26] <Mentor49> Yo whats up
[19:26] <TheFunkbomb> Is Songbird a total flop?
[19:26] <Mentor49> i think so
[19:26] <threatrix> I changed the permissions of my home folder to 644 because of an error that was showing up when I loged i now after I changed those permissions its giving me and error that says could not update ICEauthority file and then it says on the next bubble config server error /usr/lib/libgcong2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2
[19:27] <pain> Abed, supposed to do that? move the mouse to the top of the screen and see if it appears?
[19:27] <TheFunkbomb> what's an itunes like alternative on Ubuntu?
[19:27] <pyrak> TheFunkbomb, try songbird
[19:27] <nsadmin> freakin fire fox finds full frogs flailing flummagically fried flappers.
[19:27] <TheFunkbomb> pyrak, I tried songbird on windows and was not impressed
[19:27] <pyrak> TheFunkbomb, there are a number of others, but songbird is the most itunes-like.  it's also being actively developed and likely to continue to improve with time
[19:28] <Abed> pain: believe me i tried
[19:28] <pyrak> TheFunkbomb, well, you could also try amarok, which is more powerful, but has a learning curve
[19:28] <pain> Abed, try the about:config then in firefox.
[19:28] <nickrud> threatrix, ouch
[19:28] <Abed> ok pain i will see thnx
[19:29] <WastePotato> Can anyone recommend any file conversion utilities (e.g mp4 to mp3, doc to odt) for ubuntu?
[19:29] <threatrix> nickrud, yeah anyway i can fix it?
[19:29] <nickrud> threatrix, when you changed everything to 644, that means you can't 'execute' a directory; that is, cd into it
[19:29] <Abed> pain where to go plz?
[19:29] <Abed> about mozzilla then config~
[19:29] <Abed> !
[19:29] <TheFunkbomb> I also need to upgrade OpenOffice and get a better IRC client
[19:29] <Mentor49> How to check my Onboard-Mic? Also, to check that my system know my mic?! (Sorry for my bad English)
[19:30] <TheFunkbomb> I'm kind of nervous about installing OpenOffice3.
[19:30] <TheFunkbomb> I'm not good with installing things yet
[19:30] <pain> Abed, in firefox adress field, type about:config  then do a search for full and you get some options, be careful though...
[19:30] <nickrud> threatrix,   find /home/<username> -exec chmod 755 {} \; will fix that. But any executables you might have in subdirs still won't run; you'll have to fix those as you find them
[19:30] <Aka[S]Una> anyone here
[19:30] <Aka[S]Una> ?!
[19:30] <Mentor49> jea
[19:30] <nsadmin> nope
[19:30] <Mentor49> me.^^
[19:30] <WastePotato> yep.
[19:30] <Aka[S]Una> ok
[19:30] <TheFunkbomb> terminal scares me :(
[19:30] <Mentor49> :D
[19:30] <Aka[S]Una> why
[19:30] <Aka[S]Una> "D
[19:30] <Abed> ok wut shall io
[19:31] <Aka[S]Una> =D
[19:31] <nsadmin> !test
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Please behave..
[19:31] <Abed> wut shall i look for pain?
[19:31] <threatrix> ok thanks nickrud ill try it
[19:31] <kbrosnan> pain: Abed ther are not any prefs in about:config that would help
[19:31] <Aka[S]Una> anyone from Bulgaria?
[19:31] <[Steffy]> The FunkBomb, try using the Add/Remove.. tool app under Applications. Also try using XChat for IRC
[19:31] <TheFunkbomb> will do
[19:31] <pain> browser.fullscreen.autohide;true ?
[19:31] <Abed> kbrosnan do u know wut would help?
[19:31] <Aka[S]Una> Anyone from bulgaria
[19:31] <Aka[S]Una> ?
[19:31] <WastePotato> TheFunkbomb: You can install OpenOffice 3 without going to the terminal.
[19:31] <Aka[S]Una> ?!?!?!?!
[19:31] <pain> Abed, kbrosnan if set to false instead?
[19:31] <Samuel-NotAFK> I can't get Firefox to work: sam@sam-laptop:~$ firefox
[19:31] <Samuel-NotAFK> Segmentation fault
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Aka[S]Una, Please stop the offtopic
[19:32] <TheFunkbomb> I feel like by not using terminal though, I'm missing out on one of the cooler parts of ubuntu
[19:32] <nickrud> threatrix, you might just as well be better off with creating a new user from scratch, and moving your data files over.
[19:32] <kbrosnan> Abed: maybe a theme issue, i've never heard of shuch an issue
[19:32] <kbrosnan> pain: set what to false
[19:32] <Aka[S]Una> Jack sparrow who the hell do ya think you are>
[19:32] <Abed> kbrosnan i didn't change the firefox's theme
[19:32] <pain> kbrosnan, Abed, oh, sz.. browser.fullscreen.autohide;true
[19:32] <WastePotato> ...
[19:32] <TheFunkbomb> I think he thinks he's some sort of Op or something :P
[19:33] <apollo13> Samuel-NotAFK: did you try running in safe-mode already? (firefox --safe-mode)
[19:33] <kbrosnan> pain: really no
[19:33] <apollo13> Samuel-NotAFK: -safe-mode sry
[19:34] <pain> kbrosnan, ok
[19:34] <dougl> what provides mpegtools for ubuntu 8.10?
[19:34] <kbrosnan> Abed: no but a differnet one may, did you change your gnome theme?
[19:34] <Abed> pain didn't work
[19:34] <Samuel-NotAFK> apollo13: yes
[19:34] <TheFunkbomb> should I remove OpenOffice2.4 before installing 3?
[19:34] <Abed> yes kbrosnan i have
[19:34] <Samuel-NotAFK> apollo13: Still segment faults
[19:34] <apollo13> Samuel-NotAFK: even reinstalled? or is it a custom install?
[19:34] <nsadmin> TheFunkbomb the packaging should remove the old one
[19:34] <kbrosnan> Abed: firefox picks up images from the gnome theme, probably the issue
[19:35] <TheFunkbomb> okay :)
[19:35] <apollo13> dougl: apt-file search mpegtools lists libdvb-dev: /usr/lib/libdvbmpegtools.a and libdvb-dev: /usr/lib/libdvbmpegtools_pic.a or is it a program?
[19:35] <buzz0r__> no, it wont remove the old one if you install the debs from the official website of opnenoffice
[19:35] <kbrosnan> Abed: so either change your gnome theme, or install a firefox theme
[19:35] <buzz0r__> but you can use them parallel
[19:35] <sinan> i am having trouble with cron
[19:35] <sinan> it seems it isn't working
[19:35] <Samuel-NotAFK> apollo13: Even reinstalled.
[19:35] <Abed> ok kbrosnan thnx
[19:35] <Samuel-NotAFK> apollo13: Even after purging and reinstalling
[19:35] <Abed> and thank you pain
[19:36] <pain> Abed, no sweat
[19:36] <nsadmin> if you apt-get them which packages do you get? and do those packages replace?
[19:36] <epcom> kkokok
[19:36] <Samuel-NotAFK> Please help: sam@sam-laptop:~$ firefox
[19:36] <Samuel-NotAFK> Segmentation fault
[19:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !br > epcom
[19:37] <apollo13> Samuel-NotAFK: you don'T need to repeat yourself
[19:37] <sinan> exit
[19:37] <Samuel-NotAFK> apollo13: Oops sorry.
[19:38] <threatrix> nickrud, how would I do that if I cant login to an accoun normaly in x
[19:38] <slipst> How do I backup my OpenPGP keys in Seahorse?
[19:38] <nickrud> threatrix, you could hit ctl-alt-f2, log in there and run it. Ctl-alt-f7 to get back to gui login
[19:38] <guitarkid11305> im having trouble viewing other computers in my network.  any ideas?
[19:39] <aeonoris> guitarkid11305,  What OS are the other computers using?
[19:39] <nsadmin> guitarkid11305 more specific...
[19:39] <guitarkid11305> they are using windows vista
[19:39] <fixed_23> hi, i'm having a problema with the official ATI driver. I've a X600 ati Radeon and Ubuntu 8.10 full upgraded. I've installed the ATI driver from "restricted drivers" but the login screen is blank ("no input"). However i can insert login and password and when hit "return" X starts normally, with fulle resolution, compiz effects, etc...anyone can help?
[19:39] <SiDi> Is the Ubuntu Wine Team a dead project ?
[19:40] <nickrud> threatrix, if you can't log in there, reboot and use the recovery mode
[19:40] <nsadmin> as long as there's wine, they'll try to make it :)
[19:41] <Abed> kbrosnan i changed the gnome theme and the firefox theme but the problem is still there
[19:41] <aeonoris> guitarkid11305, try fiddling with Samba.
[19:41] <TheFunkbomb> hmm is this a safe site to allow?  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
[19:41] <Jack_Sparrow> TheFunkbomb, reasonably so.. yes..
[19:42] <guitarkid11305> ok
[19:42] <TheFunkbomb> they want me to allow that as a 3rd party software source
[19:42] <TheFunkbomb> how reasonably? lol
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> TheFunkbomb, trying to get 3.0
[19:42] <conal> it takes hours to copy a 2GB file from my internal drive to my external drive.  used to be fast until recently.  i'm on 8.10.  any ideas?
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> TheFunkbomb, Possible issues at the next full upgrade,
[19:42] <nickrud> TheFunkbomb, look for who's running the ppa, then look that person up on the net to check reliability.
[19:43] <TheFunkbomb> I have the tar of 3.0 direct from openoffice.org but I don't know what to do with it
[19:43] <usser> TheFunkbomb: it doesnt work anymore, the packages have been removed from there
[19:43] <nsadmin> conal: if someone could look at the output of free on your box, probably would be able to tell
[19:43] <TheFunkbomb> I'm hopeless lol
[19:44] <nsadmin> you're probably swapping like crazy
[19:44] <Seq> Has anybody used "approx" to cache apt packages? aptitude hangs on "waiting for headers" whenever I update now
[19:44] <conal> nsadmin: i could paste that output here (four lines)
[19:45] <nsadmin> not up to me
[19:45] <guntbert> usser: the ppa? strange, I just got an upgrade openoffice.org (1:3.0.0-6ubuntu0intrepid1) to 1:3.0.1~rc1-2ubuntu1~intrepid1
[19:46] <cNOOB> What is the best IRC program for Linux?  I use Pidgin and don't like it much for IRC.
[19:46] <Tekno> xchat
[19:46] <threatrix> is there a command for seting up a new user in the CLI?
[19:46] <Tekno> adduser
[19:46] <nsadmin> the best one is the one you like most
[19:46] <SiDi> cNOOB, xchat is great (irssi for command line too)
[19:46] <Abed> so pain , kbrosnan any further ideas?
[19:46] <wisniewski> hy there what is a good newsreeder for usenet on linux
[19:46] <threatrix> thanks
[19:47] <cNOOB> Okay, thanks.
[19:47] <cNOOB> I will try it out.
[19:47] <wisniewski> something like alt.binz for windows
[19:47] <nickrud> threatrix, after you add the new user, you'll want to run adduser <newuser> admin to get sudo privs
[19:47] <romildo> Hi.
[19:48] <conal> i've pasted my 'free' output to http://hpaste.org/13805, with my question about slow disk copy.  i'd appreciate any analyses & suggestions.
[19:48] <pain> Abed, sz, fresh out.. google?
[19:49] <wisniewski> i have googled but dont know witch one is on time and good for binaries
[19:49] <romildo> [newbie] I need to compile a program which needs the X development libraries. Which package should I install to get X11 headers and libraries?
[19:49] <usser> guntbert: hm really let me try it again
[19:49] <jaws2_> wisniewski : try NNTPgrab
[19:49] <nickrud> threatrix, and   useradd -G dialout,cdrom,plugdev,lpadmin,sambashare to get the necessary groups for the new user
[19:49] <Abed> ok thnx pain ,
[19:49] <leigh> im trying to install gparted and it's telling meit's not available but is refered to by another package
[19:49] <leigh> can anyone help me out?
[19:50] <wisniewski> thx jaws2 i try
[19:50] <usser> guntbert: oh yea it works, hm strange i tried it yesterday,browsed the repo even it was empty
[19:50] <guntbert> usser: I don't know - with regard to repos/ppas... I understand barely how to follow instructions :)
[19:50] <cmv583> anyone help with usb install using unetbootin?
[19:50] <leigh> does anyone know why i can't install gparted from terminal?
[19:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !coc > Aka[S]Una
[19:51] <Jordan_U> cmv583, Are you running into a problem?
[19:51] <dentid4hed> So, I made the decision to switch yesterday and downloaded 8.10
[19:51] <guntbert> usser: how do you browse that repo?
[19:51] <nickrud> !hardysources | leigh (good for hardy on up, make sure these are all checked)
[19:51] <cmv583> yes
[19:51] <Abed> lol pain it looks like that it is a common problem
[19:51] <guntbert> !who | cmv583
[19:52] <usser> guntbert: in browser http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu, it looks like they were in the process of updating packages yesterday as the repo was empty, oh well great openoffice3
[19:52] <pain> Abed, well, then you know your not alone... =)
[19:52] <dentid4hed> I burned 8.10 to a disc and put it in my drive today. Restarted, boot from CD, installation won't start. The cd just loads until the progress bar starts moving then freezes up less than 1/4 of the way.
[19:52] <guntbert> usser: ok, found it, thx :)
[19:52] <cmv583> Jordan_U: unetbootin created ldlinux.sys file that i can't do anything with?
[19:52] <leigh> i suck...the main wasn't selected
[19:53] <leigh> thanksubottu
[19:53] <Abed> hehe yup pain that's unfortunately true
[19:53] <nickrud> leigh, you don't suck, you asked a clear question ;)
[19:53] <guntbert> dentid4hed: as always my first question: did you md5sum your iso file before burning it?
[19:53] <leigh> i shouldn't have any problems creating another partition with gparted if i'm trying to split my current ubuntu installation will i?
[19:53] <dentid4hed> Did I what? I burned the ISO to a cd, that's it.
[19:54] <cmv583> Jordan_U: gedit tell me it can't detect the character code?
[19:54] <guntbert> !md5sum | dentid4hed
[19:54] <dentid4hed> When I want to install an OS, usually windows, I burn the ISO to a disc and install it. I want to use Ubuntu and I assumed the same would work.
[19:54] <nickrud> leigh, gparted will only work on unmounted partitions; if you're doing surgery on the ubuntu install you'd be better off getting the live gparted CD and using that
[19:54] <Seiver`Damross> Netsplit Detected irc.freenode.net from: lindbohm.freenode.net
[19:55] <nickrud> leigh, or using the desktop live cd
[19:55] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[19:55] <omaru_> hi everyone
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi
[19:55] <guntbert> dentid4hed: that works only if the iso is ok though - therefore md5sum
[19:55] <Newb`s> NOOOOOON
[19:55] <leigh> nickrud, and than boot off the live cd and i should be able to split my ubuntu partition?  (i'm going to attempt to install OS X as well)
[19:55] <Newb`s> ça fork !§§§§
[19:55] <Newb`s> oops, wrong chan
[19:55] <nickrud> leigh, yes.
[19:55] <leigh> nuckrud, thanks i'm gonna give it a shot
[19:56] <slipst> How do I backup my OpenPGP keys that are in Seahorse?
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr > Newb`s
[19:56] <Jordan_U> cmv583, Why are you trying to edit the file? Did it not install properly to the flash drive?
[19:56] <janka> how ARE you noW?
[19:56] <Newb`s> Jack_Sparrow: Sorry, wrong chan :)
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:57] <threatrix> ok I got a new user account now I need to restore permissions so I can do administrative tasks
[19:57] <usser> slipst: just export it
[19:57] <smartguyz> need 2 independent screens
[19:57] <cmv583> Jordan_U: no it saved the file and it won't execute. not sure what to do?
[19:57] <slipst> usser, I can only see export public key.
[19:57] <nickrud> threatrix, and   useradd -G admin,dialout,cdrom,plugdev,lpadmin,sambashare to get the necessary groups for the new user (do this in recovery console)
[19:57] <smartguyz> someone  how do I setup??
[19:57] <smartguyz> msg me please??
[19:58] <Gnea> !ask | smartguyz
[19:58] <c_korn> slipst: they are usually stored in ~/.gnupg
[19:58] <usser> slipst: theres a way to export the entire keypair, its there, i dont have seahorse so i cant tell where exactly
[19:58] <Slart_> ok, got an interesting problem.. my "0" key on my numeric keyboard doesn't make any zeroes any more.. it seems to have become a full time "insert" key, regardless of num lock state.. how could this have happened? I've looked in the keyboard settings options but haven't found anything useful.. all other keys work as normal... it's just that zero key
[19:58] <nickrud> threatrix, and   useradd -G admin,dialout,cdrom,plugdev,lpadmin,sambashare <newuser>  (heh, gotta remember the target) to get the necessary groups for the new user (do this in recovery console)
[19:58] <Gnea> smartguyz: what do you mean, 2 independent screens?
[19:58] <smartguyz> thanks......
[19:58] <burkmat> Good evening everyone. I'm looking for a way to automate the switching from my laptop screen to VGA output, which I currently do through the System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution interface. A simple shellscript should suffice?
[19:58] <rebel> can someone help me with pulseaudio
[19:58] <vinicius> hi! my localhost is not reachable by browser, and the process is actively running with the correct bath on 000-default
[19:58] <rebel> i have two sound cards
[19:58] <pain> !beer > pain
[19:58] <rebel> and i want to change the default card
[19:59] <Gnea> smartguyz: btw, we don't PM questions/answers here. it's easier to help other people if we don't.
[19:59] <Jordan_U> cmv583, I have never used unetbootin myself but as I understand it you shouldn't need to execute anything, it should just create a bootable flash drive in one step
[19:59] <pain> lol ubottu
[19:59] <smartguyz> using 2 monitors I am able to see only the same thing on booth screens...
[19:59] <aeonoris> Slart_, try tapping your left shift, then your right shift.
[19:59] <aeonoris> Or vice-versa.
[19:59] <dougl> what provides mpegtools for ubuntu 8.10?
[19:59] <slipst> c_korn, secring is all my secure keys right?
[19:59] <dentid4hed> md5sum checked out. CD just didn't work on install. Like I said, froze up before installation had a chance to begin. Ubuntu's orange progress bar started to move and froze up @ less than 1/4 the way to the end.
[20:00] <Slart_> aeonoris: ah.. good idea.. didn't do anything though.. it still just works as an insert key
[20:00] <cmv583> Jordan_U: how do i use it to boot off my ext. HDD ( that's what i'm using as usb )
[20:00] <Gnea> !apache | vinicius
[20:00] <smartguyz> I do not have screen resolution in the admin window only the preferences menu
[20:00] <dentid4hed> Is Linux really ready to be used or is it still for developers? I mean, if I'm having this much trouble installing, shouldn't I stick with Windows?
[20:00] <Gnea> smartguyz: ah, then you need to setup a second Xserver with a second xorg.conf
[20:00] <c_korn> I have the following problem: I have an encrypted root and swap partition. I want only type in the root passphrase at boot. so I want to create a keyfile for swap. I have it already set up but I am still asked for the swap passphrase at startup
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !de > janka
[20:01] <Abed> gd news pain, i removed the .mozilla directory from my home directory and everythin works
[20:01] <Gnea> smartguyz: that way, one xserver runs on one monitor, and the second xserver on the other monitor
[20:01] <c_korn> slipst: I presume
[20:01] <guntbert> dentid4hed: is this a serious question?
[20:01] <aeonoris> dentid4hed, generally speaking, Ubuntu is a rather straightforward install.
[20:01] <dentid4hed> I asked another before it.
[20:01] <dentid4hed> It froze up on me.
[20:01] <burkmat> Good evening everyone. I'm looking for a way to automate the switching from my laptop screen to VGA output, which I currently do through the System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution interface. A simple shellscript should suffice?
[20:01] <slipst> c_korn, thanks
[20:02] <momo_> hallo
[20:02] <dentid4hed> In fact, it froze up before installation even began.
[20:02] <momo_> jemand da
[20:02] <tritium> dentid4hed: it's easier to install and use than windows.  Of course it's for everyone, not just developers.
[20:02] <c_korn> momo_: this is an english channel
[20:02] <smartguyz> ok how do I setup xorg..?
[20:02] <pain> Abed, good for you... nice..=)
[20:02] <momo_> oh ok hello
[20:02] <vinicius> Gnea, thanks
[20:02] <dentid4hed> Okay, how to I install it without it breaking down and freezing?
[20:02] <dentid4hed> Sorry, typo.
[20:02] <aeonoris> dentid4hed, you could have a scratched CD, a messed up disc drive, or the ISO you downloaded could be corrupt.
[20:02] <Jordan_U> cmv583, You reboot your computer and either set the BIOS to try to boot from USB before your internal HD or bring up a one time boot menu ( to do this you will have to press a key at boot, there should be a message at boot that tells you what key that is )
[20:02] <dentid4hed> I just burned it on a brand new disc.
[20:02] <Slart_> aeonoris: ahh.. found it, apparently setting "Numeric keypad delete key behaviour" to "Legacy key with dot" not only changes the delete key but also the zero/insert key
[20:03] <dentid4hed> I just MD5 summed it.
[20:03] <dentid4hed> Checked out.
[20:03] <burkmat> I'm looking for a way to automate the switching from my laptop screen to VGA output (and vice versa), which I currently do through the System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution interface. A simple shellscript should suffice?
[20:03] <guntbert> dentid4hed: nothing froze up on you, its only so - downloads of large files can become corrupt - so before wasting a CD it is a good idea to check the integrity of that file, that doesn't aplly to linux only
[20:03] <diskmount> hey all
[20:03] <momo_> what you are talking about?
[20:03] <diskmount> Flannel, you around?
[20:03] <cmv583> Jordan_U: it will automatically recognize that file?
[20:03] <aeonoris> Slart_, oh, that's annoying.  Not the other keypad keys, though?
[20:03] <dentid4hed> I checked the ISO integrity. It was fine.
[20:03] <Aberration> Hi all! I need to remove pulseaudio and replace it with DMIX because of latency problems.... I know how to disable pulseaudio (replace the pulseaudio bin by pulseaudio.bex) but I don't know how to install DMIX
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> dentid4hed, I didnt see where it was hanging on you.. but I need to leave soon...
[20:04] <Slart_> aeonoris: nope.. the other ones worked just as normal
[20:04] <Gnea> smartguyz: are you on nvidia or ati?
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> dentid4hed, To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[20:04] <Jordan_U> cmv583, That USB drive should now be bootable, I am not sure what that file does specifically
[20:04] <henrik-_> Okay, I have to reinstall Grub. Someone here told me earlier that it was really easy using the Live CD. Can someone please explain?
[20:04] <smartguyz> xorg.conf...? ATI
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[20:05] <vigo> Aberration: Is that in the Synaptic package manager?
[20:05] <henrik-_> Thank you Captain!
[20:05] <burkmat> I'm looking for a way to automate the switching from my laptop screen to VGA output (and vice versa), which I currently do through the System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution interface. A simple shell script should suffice?
[20:05] <diskmount> I need hep with kernel, last nght Flannel ws orking wth me and we addd generic Kernel (since mmmmmne cae with ubuntusudio) looks lik rt_kernel s in effetand messingwith my typing...
[20:06] <cmv583> Jordan_U: thanx
[20:06] <Gnea> smartguyz: here's some info that will help, a bit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=386633  you will, of course, need to use ATI settings and not nvidia settings
[20:06] <Gnea> !ati
[20:06] <diskmount> anyhow this morning  enI wnt to grub to chnge from rtto generic, I got error25 disk error
[20:06] <Jordan_U> cmv583, np
[20:06] <vvm> beh è il primo collegamento...... sto guardando
[20:07] <diskmount> Gnea, hi,this is Mib, you helped me with cho mia
[20:07] <smartguyz> thank you....
[20:07] <ryanakca> !ipod
[20:07] <vvm> come funziona?
[20:07] <cNOOB> I have a problem: http://rafb.net/p/LcgPU676.html - My computer for some reason can barely run the Doom 3 Demo and the sound is messed up beyond belief.
[20:07] <guntbert> !it | vvm
[20:08] <Gnea> diskmount: hey
[20:08] <gil__> Hey, anyone have an idea why my NetworkManager would hang on "Attempting to join the wireless network"?
[20:08] <tabbu> hi, i got an error installing xubuntu 8.10 ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1015569 ) unfortunately the solution posted doesn't work for me
[20:08] <Gnea> gil__: no, but this might help shed some light: open a terminal and type this:  tail -f /var/log/syslog  and see if there are any wireless errors
[20:08] <gil__> Gnea: will do
[20:08] <diskmount> Gnea I am having probs with the rt kernel and added generic last night via synaptic, but I seem unable to use it via grub, I get error 25, and then when I try to switch back to rt, I get the same error and have to reboot
[20:09] <Rukasuzu> "/^msg nickserv ident yourpassword;wait -freenode 2000" freenode
[20:09] <Gnea> diskmount: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117271&highlight=grub+error+25
[20:10] <gil__> Gnea: I think I see an error: "No DHCPOFFERS received.", next line: "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping."
[20:10] <refefer> hey mates, what's do
[20:10] <exodus_ms> looking fo recomendations for a good command line rss reader for ubuntu
[20:10] <Gnea> gil__: looks like you're either not authenticating or the dhcp server isn't working on the router's end
[20:10] <Bax> so I can upgrade safely from 7.04 to 8.10 using a live cd, right?  I won't lose my files or programs, right?
[20:10] <refefer> er, What do I need to add when running a program from terminal to spin it off into its own process, so that I might close the terminal and have it keep going?
[20:11] <nickrud> Bax, not safely, no. You would have to upgrade to 8.04 first
[20:11] <gil__> Gnea: I don't think its a problem on the router's end because my other computers (one XP, one Ubuntu) connect fine
[20:11] <tavish> refefer: $
[20:11] <gil__> Gnea: If I'm not authenticating, would you know how to troubleshoot that?
[20:11] <vigo> tabbu: Looks like you have tried everything short of wiping the HDD, that could be the error, faulty HDD
[20:11] <Gnea> Bax: it wouldn't technically be an 'upgrade', but if you wanted to go that route, if i were you, i'd backup /home (maybe make its own partition) and be prepared to kiss everything in every other directory goodbye
[20:11] <tavish> refefer: sorry, &
[20:11] <Bax> nickrud: but I can't even upgrade to 7.10
[20:11] <nickrud> Bax, and depending on whether or not your home is a separate partition, if you use the _alternate_ cd's
[20:11] <refefer> tavish, that puts it in the background, but still has its executable linked to terminal
[20:11] <refefer> so if I close it...
[20:12] <Gnea> gil__: we do have some generic troubleshooting...
[20:12] <Gnea> !wireless | gil__
[20:12] <Gnea> gil__: see if any of that helps... if not, let us know
[20:12] <gil__> Gnea: I'll take a look at it, thanks
[20:12] <zenwryly> I've been experiencing rare hard freezes for some time.  Recently they've been becoming much more frequent.  Finally they started happening ~5 minutes after boot.  I can reproduce them when booting the live CD but I can't reproduce them so far when booting to windows (forgive me).  So I can't figure if it's hardware or software.
[20:12] <nickrud> Bax, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades to get to 7.10
[20:12] <diskmount> Gnea, it looks like I need to make the hard drive the primary boot device maybe
[20:12] <Itaku> is there a disassembler for windows programs that can be run on linux?
[20:13] <nickrud> refefer, try disown <tab> <tab> , then exit
[20:13] <Bax> Gnea: it's the only route I can go according to previous advice I've received.  No one can explain to me how to redirect my upgrade manager to the old.ubuntu files
[20:13] <cNOOB> I fixed the sound problem...now the game play is just laggy as hell.
[20:13] <coldflame23> os[Linux 2.6.27-9-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "intrepid" 8.10] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8400  @ 2.26GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.27GHz] mem[Physical: 3.0GB, 77.8% free] disk[Total: 231.9GB, 41.0% free] video[ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI]
[20:13] <Gnea> diskmount: that could be it... also, if the partition lost its boot flag, that might cause a problem
[20:13] <nickrud> Bax, the page I gave you has the instructions for that
[20:13] <diskmount> Gnea oh, I wouldnt have a clue
[20:13] <refefer> nickrud, so <command> <options> & disown <tab><tab>?
[20:13] <Gnea> Bax: see what nickrud told you, that should work... might take a bit of work tho
[20:14] <Gnea> diskmount: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[20:14] <Bax> nickrud: how do I add those deb files to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[20:14] <Gnea> diskmount: if the * isn't there, then it doesn't have the boot flag
[20:14] <nickrud> refefer, command options <enter>, then disown tab tab is my method
[20:14] <diskmount> Gnea I know very little, but my first thought was that it is trying to boot ffrom my second hd,sdb, wich is amedia storage drive/media/home
[20:14] <gharz> anybody here who's using bluefish? i'm having a problem... whenever i click 'view in browser' my html file doesn't open in my default browser... anyone?
[20:14] <nickrud> Bax, gksudo gedit
[20:15] <Gnea> diskmount: that could very well be the case
[20:15] <refefer> nickrud, worked perfectly, thanks
[20:15] <nickrud> Bax, you can replace your old one with those lines, then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade to get to the point where you can upgrade
[20:15] <diskmount> Gnea its there
[20:15] <Gnea> diskmount: in any event, booting from the livecd and doing the grub-install should get it back into place
[20:15] <simmerz> hi. I'm struggling with sound in intrepid. it works for a bit, then dies for some reason. sometimes some apps can use it and others can't. other times nothing can use it. alsa force-reload tends to resolve it in the short term.
[20:15] <jim_p> !nfs
[20:15] <diskmount> Gnea, will that mess up my sdb mount?
[20:16] <pikario> !hi | simmerz
[20:16] <Gnea> diskmount: not at all
[20:16] <ryanakca> Are there any CLI ipod managers?
[20:16] <Gnea> !grub
[20:16] <Gnea> ryanakca: nafaik, but songbird recently made an ubuntu release
[20:16] <Gnea> ryanakca: http://unter-hund.com/2008/12/03/songbird-1-final-linux-installer/
[20:16] <diskmount> Gnea, so I need to restart with the disk in, press any key to boot and reinstall the grub, then select generic kernel and log in and uninstall rt?
[20:17] <simmerz> pikario: thanks. I'm not all that new here...
[20:17] <TheFunkbomb> You know what the coolest thing about Ubuntu is?  And I'm serious here.  The fact that you can move program order on the task bar.
[20:17] <Gnea> diskmount: i don't see why rt would be messing anything up
[20:17] <TheFunkbomb> seriously, you can't even do that in XP
[20:18] <smartguyz> <Gnea> not a programmer still do not get it ....?
[20:18] <smartguyz> got it on video...
[20:18] <diskmount> Gnea my computer stutters when I have a few webpages open, something downloading and am in chat
[20:18] <ryanakca> Gnea: thanks
[20:18] <Bax> nickrud: ...there isn't anything in my source.list
[20:18] <burkmat> I'm looking for a way to automate the switching from my laptop screen to VGA output (and vice versa), which I currently do through the System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution interface. A simple shell script should suffice?
[20:18] <simmerz> pikario: any idea about how to get sound sorted out? it hasn't worked since a clean install of intrepid
[20:18] <diskmount> Gnea so someone recommended I swich to generic
[20:18] <vigo> TheFunkbomb: uhm,,actually you can,,sorta
[20:18] <smartguyz> I know this must be simple for you but I am new to Ubuntu....
[20:18] <BlackHawk> hello. i have a problem with vmware under ubuntu ... dont know if its a vmware-issue, but i dont think so ... at first there were a few keys missing under winxp - running on vmware - and after solving this i cant use shift, caps, ctrl or alt under ubuntu ...
[20:18] <nickrud> Bax, typo then   gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:18] <Gnea> diskmount: hrm
[20:18] <TheFunkbomb> vigo, I can't.
[20:18] <pikario> !sound | simmerz
[20:19] <smartguyz> xorg.conf...? ATI
[20:19] <xiamx> Why rythmbox has a bad quality for mp3, acc playback? is it because of the codec?
[20:19] <vigo> TheFunkbomb: I use to use RocketDock, is like an Apple Launcher doohicky, kinda neato
[20:19] <simmerz> pikario: isn't intrepid supposed to use pulseaudio for sound?
[20:19] <Gnea> smartguyz: i'm no programmer either, but it doesn't take a degree to edit a text file... i'll see if there's something else that can help... and maybe someone else in here knows how to setup 2 xservers... btw, are you on 8.04 or 8.10?
[20:19] <andre_d> Anyone have an invite to Spotify to share with me?
[20:19] <BlackHawk> btw. google said this is happening mostly under ubuntu 8.10
[20:19] <pikario> !bot | simmerz
[20:20] <Galadx> can i get some help?
[20:20] <diskmount> Gnea,I am on a p4 2ghz with 2 gig ddr300 ram
[20:20] <smartguyz> I see NVIDIA not ATI
[20:20] <pikario> I'm sorry, I'm only a bot. Please direct your questions to a real user. :)
[20:20] <MHz128> Hello! If I install the 64 bit Ubuntu, will I be able to use ndiswrapper with XP wireless drivers?
[20:20] <diskmount> Gnea mayebe it is just slow anyhow and the rt will ot make a difff on games or downloads
[20:20]  * simmerz has been duped :D
[20:20] <tritium> pikario: ?
[20:20] <BlackHawk> galadx, just ask^^ they dont like metaquestions^^
[20:20] <Gnea> diskmount: right, there's no reason that rt should be causing problems like that tho
[20:20] <Galadx> Will someone please help im having trouble with the install
[20:21] <Galadx> Ok, well
[20:21] <Gnea> Galadx: please explain your problem with as much detail as you can
[20:21] <Galadx> i clicked the install option on my disk
[20:21] <kapipi_pidgin> Hello, I wonder if someone knows a good site that reviews motherboards, for *server use*?
[20:21] <l0gin_> Hi all
[20:21] <Galadx> and its says "ACPI: Aborted because junk in compressed archive.
[20:21] <diskmount> Gnea is tjer  command I can typeto seewhat type ofkernel I m runn?
[20:21] <Galadx> and its says "ACPI: Aborted because junk in compressed archive."
[20:21] <diskmount> Gnea, see that i messed up, the comp cant even keep up with me typing
[20:22] <perillux1> I'm trying to make a small "website" that I'm hosting with apache2, it works if I type it's network IP address in the browser for any computers on my network.  Is there anyway that I can get computers outside of my network to access it?  I'm not looking for a nice address like www.google.com, simply typing an IP address would be good enough for me.
[20:22] <diskmount> Gnea all I have running is firefox with 5 tabs, this being one of them
[20:22] <eelriver> diskmount, uname -a
[20:22] <jim_p> call me a noob but... i did set up an nfs share on my bros laptop. now what do i do on my desktop? set it to mount through fstab? and if the laptop not online when i boot the desktop? will it take ages to boot?
[20:22] <BlackHawk> anybody read my problem ... or did it disappear too fast^^
[20:22] <jim_p> please give me some ideas
[20:23] <Galadx> will someone pm me? I need help
[20:23] <jiprice> is it possible to see what kind of hardrive my laptop is using whithout opening it?
[20:23] <Gnea> !pm | Galadx
[20:23] <diskmount> eelriver Linux ADAM 2.6.24-22-rt #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Mon Nov 24 20:47:19 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:23] <Gnea> !patience > Galadx
[20:23] <jim_p> jiprice, with some app like hwinfo maybe
[20:23] <BlackHawk> galadx, well ... dont know if i can help you^^ but if you explain your problem anybody will^^
[20:23] <jim_p> jiprice, let me look
[20:24] <K-4U> Okay, someone here who can tell me how to enable my webcam(a Trust WB-1400T) under Ubuntu 8.10?
[20:24] <Galadx> when i try to install it come up with
[20:24] <Galadx> and its says "ACPI: Aborted because junk in compressed archive."
[20:24] <jiprice> any commands?
[20:24] <spmccann> jiprice:  it is possible are you running ubuntu at the moment
[20:24] <vigo> gaaladx: Where did you get the install disk from?
[20:24] <jim_p> jiprice, no :(
[20:24] <Galadx> i downloaded and burned it
[20:24] <Gnea> diskmount: do you get any errors in dmesg?
[20:25] <jim_p> jiprice, it does show it on the gui though. the name of the package is hardinfo
[20:25] <jim_p> !info hardinfo
[20:25] <MHz128> Hello! If I install the 64 bit Ubuntu, will I be able to use ndiswrapper with XP wireless drivers?
[20:25] <guntbert> Galadx: did you check the integrity of the iso with md5sum?
[20:25] <Galadx> i tried but i waited 2 hours and got nothing
[20:25] <jim_p> MHz128, depending on what you use, you may also need 64 bit xp drivers
[20:25] <guntbert> !who | Galadx
[20:26] <diskmount> Gnea, I did not catch anything u said about dmesg, but I will say tat when I tr to open synaptic and it prompts for pword, every single time it say incorrect, like I am typing to fast or something and i ant keep up?
[20:26] <jim_p> Galadx, are you on ati??
[20:26] <MHz128> jim_p, depending on the card itself?
[20:26] <vigo> Galadx: did you set CD as boot in BIOS?
[20:26] <Galadx> jim_P, I have an ati video card if thats what your asking
[20:26] <jim_p> MHz128, yea. if it has 64 bit xp drivers
[20:26] <Galadx> vigo, yes i booted from cd
[20:27] <BlackHawk> ... ill ask again and dont complain about missing characters^^ i cant write any characters that require the shift-key^^ so ... i cant use shift, caps, ctrl, alt or windows-key ... linux just ignores it if i do, this all happened after i fixed an error in vmware where i couldnt use the cursor keys ... if anybody has an idea about that id be quite happy^^
[20:27] <vladtsepesh1984> i have installed ati proprietary driver following ubuntu comunity tutorial but i recive the following error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/103234/...please help me
[20:27] <jim_p> Galadx, good luck with the alternative cd. ati and xorg 1.5 do not match. period!
[20:27] <MHz128> jim_p, There are vista drivers... think they might be 64 bit?
[20:27] <jim_p> MHz128, dunno. ntw, are you sure you need ndiswrapper?
[20:27] <vigo> Gladx: Uhm ok,,that was first thing I had to ask,,,lemee look around some
[20:27] <hanasaki> what package provides the ldap server?
[20:27] <jim_p> *btw
[20:27] <Galadx> jim_p, so i can't install it?
[20:27] <Gnea> smartguyz: if you can set your xorg.conf up to be similar to this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=964487  , then you should be able to to the startx -- :0 and startx -- :1 just fine... obviously, replace the nvidia stuff with ati stuff, and there is some help here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[20:27] <MHz128> jim_p, ndiswrapper works better than the native rt2500pci driver... ]
[20:28] <Gnea> smartguyz: if you'd like, we can use pastebin to make sure that the /etc/X11/xorg.conf is looking right
[20:28] <jim_p> Galadx, you cant install if you use the normal live cd. and the same will occur if you install atis drivers after the installation on the hdd
[20:28] <diskmount> Gnea here is mypastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/103259/
[20:28] <TheFunkbomb> so, how do I install a program from a tar?
[20:28] <Bax> nickrud: those old.ubuntu deb files are already in my sources.list.  Do they specifically need to replace specific deb links that were there before?  Any idea what those deb links are?
[20:28] <guntbert> jim_p: about ATI and xorg 1.5: where does that statement come from?
[20:28] <BlackHawk> cmon guys ... i cant even change channels here without the shift-key ... please ...
[20:28] <TheFunkbomb> you know what?  I'll just google it
[20:28] <nickrud> Bax, you should use only those; remove all the others
[20:28] <TheFunkbomb> sorry
[20:29] <jim_p> Galadx, so either go to 8.04 or use another distro with xorg 1.4
[20:29] <perillux1> How can I prevent gedit from saving a backup file with ~ at the end everytime I overwrite a file.
[20:29] <Galadx> jim_p, so use an older version then? 8.04?
[20:29] <smartguyz> yes lets do that thanks....
[20:29] <jim_p> Galadx, 8.04 is safer if you dont have hardware that needs a newer kernel. that is a p45 chipset mobo and some new intel cpus and tons of wireless chipsets
[20:29] <Bax> nickrud: remove ALL of the other deb links?
[20:30] <jim_p> Galadx, try the alternative first
[20:30] <vladtsepesh1984> please help me....i can't install ati driver....after the download this is the output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/103234/
[20:30] <vigo> Galadx: I agree with the 8.04,,,
[20:30] <K-4U> Okay, someone here who can tell me how to enable my webcam(a Trust WB-1400T) under Ubuntu 8.10?
[20:30] <Galadx> ok, ty
[20:30] <nickrud> Bax, myself, I'd move the old sources.list to my desktop for a copy, then put only those lines in the sources.list. They are complete
[20:30] <Gnea> diskmount: the only thing that looks out of place is that your DVD drives aren't settling as fast as the kernel would like them to
[20:30] <perillux1> How can I prevent gedit from saving a backup file with ~ at the end everytime I overwrite a file?
[20:30] <jim_p> guntbert, are you on ati (fglrx) and xprg 1.5? all i have heard is fglrx not working properly or at all
[20:31] <c_korn> perillux1: in settings
[20:31] <cmv583> Jordan_U: tried booting from that drive and it can't find keernel?
[20:31] <unop> perillux1, google says - http://tombuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/geditbackups.jpg
[20:31] <cmv583> Jordan_U: kernel
[20:31] <guntbert> jim_p: yes I am - no problems at all (I don't need the 'fancy' thing though)
[20:31] <diskmount> Gnea, so it is fine, nothing to change other than re installing 2 rt things from synaptic? we uninstalled kernel-rt and kernel-module-something and one more thing
[20:32] <vladtsepesh1984> no one want help me....  ;(
[20:32] <jim_p> guntbert, fancy = compiz? or is it games?
[20:32] <Reset_By_Fear> how can wine use proxy when running gecko?
[20:32] <K-4U> Compizz <3
[20:32] <PowhatanBob> I just got a second monitor and am trying to make it work with my previous one.  I got the resolution and all working but each monitor just displays a clone of the desktop.  How can I make the desktop extend across both ?
[20:32] <jim_p> vladtsepesh1984, did you use atis installer?
[20:32] <guntbert> jim_p: fancy=compiz, but I don't play games either :)
[20:33] <Gnea> diskmount: yeah, try the generic again and see what happens
[20:33] <vladtsepesh1984> yes i used the ati driver from ati web site
[20:33] <jim_p> guntbert, sadly, i have one game to "feed" but i dont use compiz
[20:33] <diskmount> Gnea, you want me to retart and select generic from grub?
[20:34] <diskmount> Gnea I will prob get the same error
[20:34] <Gnea> diskmount: sure
[20:34] <Ienorand> How do you use regex like: echo [1-5] to show numbers 1 to 5 ?
[20:34] <K-4U> Still no-one who can help me with my webcam(Trust WB-1400T) under 8.10?
[20:34] <liquid> Hello Party People
[20:34] <Gnea> smartguyz: also, be sure to address me like I'm addressing you, otherwise I can't see what you're saying to help
[20:34] <Jordan_U> cmv583, Can you try booting using the USB drive on another computer?
[20:34] <jim_p> K-4U, how is it identified on lsusb?
[20:34] <guntbert> jim_p: I was asking only because of " ati and xorg 1.5 do not match. period!" doesn't match with my experience
[20:35] <cmv583> Jordan_U:  don't know. Does that drive need to be unmounted?
[20:35] <K-4U> jim_p: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 093a:2468 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Cammaestro 2.5DU/X-EYE/Orite SC-120/ICGear TravelCam/Easy Snap Snake Eye WebCam
[20:35] <K-4U> B <-- i think...
[20:35] <perillux1> I'm trying to make a small "website" that I'm hosting with apache2, it works if I type it's network IP address in the browser for any computers on my network.  Is there anyway that I can get computers outside of my network to access it?  I'm not looking for a nice address like www.google.com, simply typing an IP address would be good enough for me.
[20:35] <usicow> when I issue the command 'ps aux | grep lirc' I get the following: root      6234  0.0  0.0   2932   548 ?        S<s  20:58   0:00 /usr/sbin/lircd --device=/dev/lirc0. How can I change the script that starts the lircd deamon at startup so it uses /dev/lirc1?
[20:35] <jim_p> guntbert, ok. but you dont use compiz and games. you can do the same if not more with an opensource driver
[20:35] <liquid> I have a quick question, I was reading that the old driver included in 8.10 for nvidia chipsets are not good and dont support 3d acc. would this cause the chip to go bad on the motherboard
[20:35] <TheFunkbomb> I can't get Open Office 3 to go in :(
[20:36] <xinel> morning all
[20:36] <c_korn> has someone an encrypted swap with keyfile?
[20:36] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, how did you install ?
[20:36] <Jordan_U> cmv583, If you are currently booted into an OS then yes, you should unmount the drive before you unplug it
[20:36] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, I didn't.
[20:36] <threatrix> nickrud, hey so I got a new account working but to get one with permissions its not making a home folder for those accounts so they arent able to log in with a gnome session either
[20:36] <TheFunkbomb> I have a tar on my desktop
[20:37] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, you can add a repository in order to get OpenOffice 3
[20:37] <guntbert> jim_p: ok, but one thing I need fglrx for is reducing the power consumption of my card :)
[20:37] <nickrud> threatrix, see the pm
[20:37] <vladtsepesh1984> nobody help me to install atis driver
[20:37] <vladtsepesh1984> ?
[20:37] <TheFunkbomb> okay, how do I add a repository?
[20:37] <fishmonkey> If I burn the install iso to a DVD-R I'll be able to boot from it right?
[20:37] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, but its the 3.0.1rc1, if you want 3.0 you need to download from the website
[20:37] <TheFunkbomb> yeah, I have the tar from openoffice.org
[20:37] <K-4U> jim_p:Why did you want to know?
[20:37] <xinel> threatrix: did u do a "sudo adduser" in terminal?
[20:37] <TheFunkbomb> but I'm not sure what to do.  I'm new
[20:37] <SiDi> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml see here TheFunkbomb
[20:38] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, I've been there.  Someone in here said that the files have been pulled from there
[20:38] <cmv583> Jordan_U: i originally put OS on int. HDD and it is small. I have ext. HDD that is large and want to use that for OS but not quite sure how to do that.
[20:38] <Flannel> fishmonkey: Yes
[20:38] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, if you do this guide then it'll be installed as any other program, except that this is a "development" repository, so the very latest updates of OOo will be downloaded to your PC, but they might sometimes have bugs (since its development)
[20:38] <jim_p> K-4U, thats where it starts. its not tha maker of the camera, its the chip it has on
[20:39] <perillux1> Is there any way that I can host files through this old laptop, like a file server?  Do I have to use ftp of could I use http for easier use?
[20:39] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, after you've done this tutorial you can install Openoffice3
[20:39] <xinel> perillux1: ssh is pretty good
[20:39] <fishmonkey> Flannel: cool thanks
[20:39] <K-4U> jim_p: Okay.. that would explain a lot.. Amsn recognizes it, but the screen stays black, and the webcam lights don't come on
[20:39] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, what part of it are you stuck on, at the moment ?
[20:39] <litong> I need some help with sounds in Ubuntu 8.10 I didn't find something useful for me on the google.... After I am loggin in the sounds of clicking etc are not working
[20:39] <Flannel> perillux1: You could use http, although you may want to consider using sftp.  It's extremely easy to set up, and will function identically from an end-user perspective as ftp
[20:39] <Jordan_U> cmv583, You probably don't want to use Unetbootin for everyday use, it
[20:39] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, I just have the tar sitting on my desktop
[20:39] <TheFunkbomb> of the latest stable release
[20:39] <jim_p> K-4U, do you get image in another app like cheese?
[20:40] <Jordan_U> cmv583, It's not as fast as a normal install because it's compressed to fit onto smaller Flash drives
[20:40] <K-4U> jim_p: Yes, cheese recognizes it
[20:40] <SiDi> Alright TheFunkbomb follow the link
[20:40] <SiDi> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[20:40] <cmv583> Jordan_U:  any tips?
[20:40] <K-4U> jim_p: Though the colors are a bit off..
[20:40] <SiDi> Here is a way to add it into Ubuntu into such a way that the system's updater will update it too
[20:40] <perillux1> Flannel: ok thanks, do you know of any good sftp tutorials?
[20:40] <jim_p> K-4U, then it does not work properly
[20:41] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, like I said before, someone here said the files aren't on that site anymore
[20:41] <xinel> perillux1: do a sudo apt-get install openssh-server, then give each user an account on your machine sudo adduser username, give your server a static ip then they can connect using filezilla of gftp
[20:41] <litong> I need some help with sounds in Ubuntu 8.10 I didn't find something useful for me on the google.... After I am loggin in the sounds of clicking etc are not working
[20:41] <Flannel> perillux1: install openssh-server... then connect with your favority ftp client (which almost certainly supports sftp)
[20:41] <smartguyz> Gneawill do thanks....
[20:41] <SiDi> Ah i see, TheFunkbomb. Well i'm using those and it works, i got OOo installed and updated regularly
[20:41] <TheFunkbomb> I'll try in the openoffice chan
[20:41] <TheFunkbomb> thanks though
[20:41] <perillux1> Flannel: xinel: well i was wondering if they would be able to connect with firefox
[20:42] <smartguyz> Gnea: will do thanks....
[20:42] <Jordan_U> cmv583, Last time I tried to install Ubuntu on an external drive it was not strait foreward, but that was a few years ago. Have you thought about just having /home on the external drive?
[20:42] <Flannel> perillux1: Just to download?  for that you'll have to use a web server
[20:42] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, it's pretty empty :)
[20:42] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, i'll download the .tar.gz and tell you how to install
[20:42] <blip-> hi all, i'm trying to set a font in Konsole under Ubuntu, I used the command "consolechars -f bicon-8x16-512.psfu.gz"....but i'm getting the message "Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console \n  get_console_fd: Invalid argument".   any ideas ?    thanks
[20:43] <TheFunkbomb> okay, thanks
[20:43] <K-4U> err, great.. now what..
[20:43] <cmv583> Jordan_U: just copy paste?
[20:43] <perillux1> Flannel: I have apache2 but it only works for computers on my network when they type my IP in
[20:43] <Jordan_U> Not quite
[20:43] <Galadx> jim_p, why does 8.04 come up as a rar file?
[20:43] <Jordan_U> !separatehome | cmv583
[20:44] <perillux1> Flannel: so that works perfectly except i'd like anyone, even computers not on network, to be able to connect
[20:44] <litong> I need some help with sounds in Ubuntu 8.10 I didn't find something useful for me on the google.... After I am loggin in the sounds of clicking etc are not working
[20:44] <perillux1> Flannel: is that possible?
[20:44] <SiDi> Galadx, are you currently under Windows ? If you have winRAR installed you might see it with a rar icon but it's actually an .iso file (cd image file)
[20:44] <K-4U> Galadx: jim_p is gone..
[20:44] <Galadx> oops
[20:44] <jinja-sheep> ardchoille:  You there?
[20:44] <FireFox||> where can I read the supported CPU's out of my kernel
[20:44] <Galadx> anyone know why 8.04 comes up as a rar unlike 8.10
[20:44] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, download is at half
[20:44] <PowhatanBob> how do i get dual monitors set up in ubuntu 8.10?
[20:45] <Bax> nickrud: okay, edited the sources.list and tried upgrading to 7.10 in the upgrade manager.  It then complained it found "No valid mirror" and said it failed to fetch a bunch of html old-releases files for gutsy and aborted the update.
[20:45] <Flannel> perillux1: That has to do with routing (you need to forward port 80 to your server), and then to be able to connect to your network, you likely want some sort of dyndns type thing, since your IP probably changes ocassionally
[20:45] <K-4U> PowhatanBob: What do you mean?
[20:45] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, thanks for doing this
[20:45] <dr_willis> Galadx,  Im not sure that anyone knows what you mean by saying 'comes up as a rar'
[20:45] <cmv583> Jordan_U:  will i have to change save folders for all apps?
[20:45] <tritium> Galadx: you need to be more specific about what you mean.  8.04 and 8.10 are releases.
[20:45] <K-4U> PowhatanBob: Sorry, i meant: What videocard do you have?
[20:45] <MHz128> I have an older 80gb ide drive with my Ubuntu installation, I would like to move this installation to a partition on a 1tb sata drive. Can I use dd to copy the drive without harming the system?
[20:45] <Galadx> when i download it, its showing up as a rar file
[20:45] <PowhatanBob> nvidia 8600
[20:45] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, no problem. That's something i got bothered with too, so i understand that you're being annoyed with it ;)
[20:45] <PowhatanBob> K-4U: Nvidia 8600
[20:46] <K-4U> PowhatanBob: Then you should be able to install the restricted drivers, and use the Nvidia control panel
[20:46] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, I'm still getting my feet in ubuntu but at least I'm moving forward :D
[20:46] <dr_willis> Galadx,  if you mean to say that you downloaded a .iso file to your windows machine, and winrar is poping up when you click on the .iso Its because winrar  has decided to bset it self as the default app for .iso files..  (which is not too handy)
[20:46] <smartguyz> Gnea: I am working on this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174&highlight=Xinerama+ATI, will get back to you thanks.....
[20:46] <SiDi> MHz128, it might copy the data but not sure it'll work, if the drives are mounted by uuid in /etc/fstab i'm not sure it'll work.
[20:46] <PowhatanBob> k-4u: I think i'm already using the restricted drivers, where would i find the control panel?
[20:47] <nickrud> Bax, I'm inclined to think you have a typo in your sources, since I can see http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty*
[20:47] <ardchoille> jinja-sheep: I am :)
[20:47] <MHz128> SiDi, is there any other way to accomplish this?
[20:47] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, that's the most important part :) Having an OS that you can learn how to use, not an OS that you have to undergo
[20:47] <K-4U> PowhatanBob: Type sudo nvidia-settings
[20:47] <dr_willis> Galadx,  you may want to download  imgburn for burning iso files under windows.  http://www.imgburn.com/
[20:47] <Galadx> dr_willis, ok, so if i burn it its still going to burn the same right?
[20:47] <perillux1> Flannel: thank you! it works, i just forgot to forward port 80 thanks
[20:47] <Gnea> smartguyz: awesome, good luck :)
[20:47] <SiDi> MHz128, i think dd is the good way
[20:47] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, right.  I like it so far
[20:47] <Galadx> dr_willis, i have it already
[20:48] <SiDi> MHz128, i just thought that you may have to check this file, if the HDD's are referred by UUID i think it depends on the HDD so you would have to change them (there is a command to get the UUID but i don't remember it)
[20:48] <LLStarks> yo
[20:48] <dr_willis> Galadx,  your system has winrar set to load the .iso is the whole issue..
[20:48] <K-4U> PowhatanBob: In a terminal ofcourse, i think you knew i meant that?
[20:48] <vinicius> hi! everything looks good on apache but i cant reach <IP_ADDRESS> on my browser... and telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 80 is not working as well
[20:48] <dr_willis> Galadx,   make imgburn the default app.
[20:48] <guntbert> and Galadx, remember to md5sum check the .iso
[20:48] <MHz128> SiDi, I need to run  dd from a live disk correct?
[20:48] <Galadx> how do i change it?
[20:48] <LLStarks> can someone confirm a bug for me?
[20:48] <Galadx> ok
[20:48] <PowhatanBob> k-4u: guess i'm not using them, any idea if grandr will work?
[20:48] <LLStarks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/315907
[20:48] <dr_willis> Galadx,  i dont do windows support. :)  so no idea.
[20:49] <SiDi> MHz128, yeh because it's not safe to run it from a system with files being used and modified
[20:49] <unop> vinicius, what happens when you try this.   sudo invoke-rc.d apache restart
[20:49] <MHz128> 10 4
[20:49] <Galadx> dr_willis, I got it
[20:49] <SiDi> MHz128, i never did it btw, i suggest you ask again and see if someone knows a good way to do it
[20:49] <jinja-sheep> ardchoille:  See the PM. :)
[20:49] <unop> vinicius, or perhaps.   sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[20:49] <K-4U> PowhatanBob: System->Administration->Restricted Drivers
[20:49] <Jordan_U> cmv583, All user preferences are stored in /home so they will just copy over with everything else, and it will still be mounted in the same place so no configuration ( beyond fstab, as explained in the instructions ) need be changed
[20:49] <ardchoille> jinja-sheep: got it :)
[20:50] <Galadx> dr_willis, does installing ubuntu wipe my hard drives or do i have to do that first?
[20:50] <SiDi> LLStarks, if you're under 9.04 i think you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:50] <LLStarks> thanks
[20:50] <Jordan_U> cmv583, For instance the path to your desktop will still be /home/you/Desktop it will simply be writing to the external HD rather than the internal
[20:50] <dr_willis> Galadx,  depends on hwat you tell the installer to do. You can easially fdisk/delete the partitions first if you want
[20:50] <cmv583> Jordan_U: how do i backup? just in case?
[20:50] <Bax> nickrud: I copied pasted the deb address directly from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades, so I don't think it was a typo
[20:51] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, you need to extract the directory in the tar (anywhere, desktop for instance)
[20:51] <zofia> hi, i have a problem with wifi connection, can you help me?
[20:51] <Galadx> dr_willis, so it will gimme the option? (I want to, i have a virus) I'm installing it on my laptop, this is my desktop
[20:51] <nickrud> Bax, put a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu.com . It's odd that it complains it can't find those
[20:51] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, so that would be tar xzf and the name of the tar?
[20:52] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, then you can just run the file named "setup" inside it. I suggest you run it from a console (open one, "cd Desktop/Open**(press the tab key for folder autocompletion)", and then "sh setup")
[20:52] <dr_willis> Galadx,  the disk partitionign tool can delete the partitions..
[20:52] <vinicius> unop, same thing
[20:52] <K-4U> PowhatanBob: Did you find it?
[20:52] <zofia> i can see wifi networks
[20:52] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, you can extract it graphically hehe :P
[20:52] <zofia> but when i try to connect to them
[20:52] <dr_willis> Galadx,  or i recall it asking to 'use the whole drive' also
[20:52] <Galadx> i have no idea how to do any of that
[20:52] <zofia> network manager shows some progress
[20:52] <perillux1> Flannel: one last thing.  Do you think it's a security risk for me to leave port 80 open all the time even though it will rarely be used?  Or do you think it's fairly safe?
[20:52] <unop> vinicius, does the command give you any output, error messages, etc ??
[20:52] <zofia> but with noresult
[20:52] <guntbert> !enter | zofia
[20:53] <TeleNubby> I've tried and tried to get Ubuntu working (details soon), and I've looked around and realized many people are experiencing the same problem as I am; the item we had in common was our graphics card. I've got an ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series.
[20:53] <vinicius> unop, no, apache can start and stop with no problem aparently
[20:53] <PowhatanBob> K-4U: yes, thanks you, i'm actually trying to get the size of my screen set so i can use grandr
[20:53] <TeleNubby> I've install Ubuntu perfectly fine. I see the login screen, and when I attempt to login, the screen goes black-ish (as if it's going well), then after a few seconds it returns to the login screen. No error message is supplied.
[20:53] <TeleNubby> Any ideas?
[20:53] <Galadx> dr_willis, Im still burni8nf the cd... the last cd i tried didn't work... i got errors...
[20:53] <FloodBot1> TeleNubby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:53] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, yes it's "tar -xzf filename.tar.gz" though ;)
[20:53] <unop> perillux1, as long as the service listening on that port (httpd) is secured, it shouldn't be a problem.
[20:53] <K-4U> PowhatanBob: yw ;)
[20:53] <TheFunkbomb> ah ha.  I didn't cd to the desktop
[20:53] <dr_willis> Galadx,  i tnd to use unetbootin, and make bootable thumbdrives for my installs.
[20:53] <TheFunkbomb> that's why it did nothing
[20:53] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, for the graphical method just drag n drop the folder inside the tar XD
[20:53] <Jordan_U> cmv583, Note that because you are going to create the new partition on an external drive you do not have to resize any partitions, so there is no risk of data loss from resizing
[20:53] <unop> vinicius, is apache running?   ps aux | grep -i apache
[20:54] <Jacroe> what's the default sound package thing in ubuntu? Pulse or esound?
[20:54] <K-4U> Okay, someone here who can tell me how to enable my webcam(a Trust WB-1400T) under Ubuntu 8.10?
[20:54] <SiDi> Jacroe, Pulseaudio from 8.04
[20:54] <litong> I need some help with sounds in Ubuntu 8.10 I didn't find something useful for me on the google.... After I am loggin in the sounds of clicking etc are not working
[20:54] <SiDi> K-4U, did you try easycam ? see easycam in help.ubuntu.com
[20:54] <vinicius> unop, yes
[20:54] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, okay, so I have it unpacked on the desktop.  Now what?
[20:55] <K-4U> SiDi: Not yet, let's try
[20:55] <Jordan_U> cmv583, You will have to change the directions to match what you are doing though, I can walk you through it but I may have to leave to do other things on short notice today
[20:55] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, you can run the "setup" file inside it ;)
[20:55] <unop> vinicius,  what ports is apache configured to listen on?    grep Listen /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[20:55] <K-4U> SiDi: err, wait, yes.. i tried.. but the packages don't fit.. these are for hardy, and i'm using intrepid
[20:55] <TheFunkbomb> okay, I ran it in terminal and then terminal closed really quickly SiDi
[20:55] <wolter> i am not getting the app name autocomplete feature on the gnome-terminal
[20:56] <SiDi> K-4U, let me check for the intrepid version on french wiki ;)
[20:56] <K-4U> SiDi: okay, ty :)
[20:56] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, open a terminal and cd and then do "sh setup" so we see the error
[20:56] <Jordan_U> wolter, When you hit tab does it enter an actual tab character?
[20:56] <unop> wolter, try sourcing  /etc/bash_completion
[20:56] <wolter> Jordan_U, no..
[20:56] <wolter> unop, sourcing?
[20:56] <unop> wolter,  source /etc/bash_completion
[20:56] <perillux1> unop: what do you mean by: as long as the service listening on that port (httpd) is secure?
[20:56] <Bax> nickrud: I now just give you this address http://paste.ubuntu.com/103270/, to see it, right?
[20:56] <cmv583> Jordan_U:  i'll take you up on that?
[20:57] <nickrud> Baz_, yep
[20:57] <perillux1> unop: I'm not sure if I have a service "listening" don't even know what that is.  lol sorry
[20:57] <Jordan_U> cmv583, OK
[20:57] <PovAddict> what just happened to the language packs? http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/language-pack-es
[20:57] <PovAddict> 36KB?
[20:57] <wolter> unop, it worked!
[20:57] <peranik> ciao
[20:57] <zofia> hi, i have a problem with my wireless card, Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212, i have 8.10 with latest kernel, i can see wifi networks, i can start connecting, but when my wifi is protected by wep i cannot connect to it, can you please help me?
[20:57] <SiDi> K-4U, i think you can use this one, we got the hardy one only in our wiki too (the guy who devs it is french thus we have latest info on easycam)
[20:57] <cmv583> Jordan_U:  i can't access home from places
[20:57] <wolter> unop, will it work everytime i log in, or do i have to enter that command?
[20:58] <RapJones> Hey there! Anyone have a second to help a newb?
[20:58] <Jordan_U> cmv583, What happens when you try?
[20:58] <SiDi> K-4U, i used it under intrepid for my lappy and i had no problem. Just don't forget to remove the repository once your webcam is installed
[20:58] <PovAddict> RapJones: just ask your question
[20:58] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, this is what I got: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/103271/
[20:58] <cNOOB> Does anyone here run Starcraft?  If so, do you have any problems playing on BattleNet?
[20:58] <vinicius> unop, 80 and 443
[20:58] <wolter> is it unconvenient to make one's home partition ntfs?
[20:58] <unop> perillux1, if you have a port open, it means a service is listening on that port .. port 80 is usually controlled by the httpd (apache perhaps) -- so as long as your httpd is not vulnerable to exploits and is properly secured, you should have nothing to worry about.
[20:58] <SiDi> K-4U, easycam will only install your drivers but then you can remove it safely ;)
[20:58] <nickrud> Bax, if sudo apt-get upgrade is giving you errors, then I don't know what's wrong with the repo, those are well formed lines
[20:58] <K-4U> SiDi: I added it to my sources.list, but it said this:W: Ophalen van http://blognux.free.fr/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found is mislukt
[20:58] <peranik> !list
[20:58] <perillux1> cNOOB: when i tried it in wine, I could never connect to BNet
[20:58] <cmv583> Jordan_U:  nothing
[20:58] <unop> wolter, you'll have to run that command for every logon - to do that automatically - you'll need to put that command in your ~/.bashrc file
[20:59] <RapJones> Just installed 8.10 on an HP Pavillion laptop. Says my wireless card is disabled. Can't figure out how to enable it.
[20:59] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, do you have Java installed ? I mean java jre 6, not OpenJDK that is installed by default ?
[20:59] <Jordan_U> cmv583, Can you open nautilus ( the file browser ) at all?
[20:59] <unop> vinicius,  perhaps your firewall is blocking connection attempts to port 80 then?  do you have a  firewall running?
[20:59] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, (btw the repository method really is more simple :D )
[20:59] <cNOOB> Oh okay, thanks...not sure if I should get it then...
[20:59] <perillux1> unop: I'm not sure if, or how to secure it though.  I'll understand if it's too much to explain here, I could look it up myself if u want.
[20:59] <TheFunkbomb> Oh yeah, I have to install java...
[20:59] <blip-> hi all, can someone please help me install a font in Konsole ?   I can't figure out how to do this.
[20:59] <LLStarks> yo.
[20:59] <cmv583> Jordan_U:  not sure?
[20:59] <SiDi> K-4U, hm the guy's repo is down. Let me have a look
[20:59] <lasivian> is there a way to force-reprobe all devices?
[20:59] <LLStarks> is it just me or does firefox lose antialiasing when moving a tab?
[20:59] <PovAddict> blip-: you install fonts system-wide, not in konsole
[21:00] <dr_willis> blip-,  i just copyu the fonts to my .fonts dir and select the proper front from the Konsole menus
[21:00] <diskmount> Gnea, I had no luck, never could switch to generic, I am about ready to burn a reg ubuntu iso and start from scratch
[21:00] <litong> I need some help with sounds in Ubuntu 8.10 I didn't find something useful for me on the google.... After I am loggin in the sounds of clicking etc are not working
[21:00] <Jordan_U> cmv583, Are there any folders you can access?
[21:00] <RapJones> Can someone help me enable my wireless card in 8.10 on a HP Pavillion laptop?
[21:00] <vinicius> unop, i dont think i have one...
[21:00] <_dark__> don't suppose anybody knows how to the the trust tb-4200 tablet to work with ubuntu? I can move the mousepointer with it, but I can't use any functions like draw
[21:00] <Bax> nickrud: here my readout after executing that terminal command, http://paste.ubuntu.com/103272/
[21:00] <vinicius> unop, ps aux returns nothing like a firewall to me
[21:00] <vinicius> unop, how can i make sure?
[21:00] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, let me install Java jre6
[21:00] <Gnea> diskmount: :( make sure you have a good backup first...
[21:01] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, don't forget to remove OpenJDK before to avoid conflicts ;)
[21:01] <peranik> it
[21:01] <unop> vinicius,   sudo iptables -L   # if iptables is in use
[21:01] <TheFunkbomb> oh boy
[21:01] <SiDi> K-4U, can you tell me what webcam you have ? i'll try to find the drivers on his webby
[21:01] <TheFunkbomb> now I'm going to be lost lol
[21:01] <peranik> italy
[21:01] <diskmount> Gnea only thing I NEED to save somehow is all the damn work you and I did on getting the echo mia to work properly!
[21:01] <nickrud> Bax, that looks really good. now try sudo apt-get update , which is what I should have said the first time :)
[21:01] <blip-> the font i want to install in this case came with BiCon terminal and it's a .psfu.gz extension... can i just copy it to .fonts dr_willis ?
[21:01] <azurinx> hi all... got an ubuntu question
[21:01] <endorphine> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu server with open ssh and chrooting, I'd like to figure out how to assign a group to a directory so everyone in the group can add and modify things in the directory?
[21:01] <unop> vinicius,  sudo ufw status # if ufw is in use, i think - i am not sure about this one tho
[21:01] <K-4U> SiDi: I have a Trust WB-1400T, yes i know.. linux doesn't like it
[21:01] <nickrud> Bax, if that completes properly, you're good to try the upgrade-manager
[21:01] <RapJones> Can someone help me enable my wireless card in 8.10 on a HP Pavillion?
[21:01] <cmv583> Jordan_U:  everything from comp. down in places menu. i can use apps that are in apps menu. and system is fine
[21:01] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, are you SURE you don't want to add this simple repository to get OOo ? :p
[21:02] <azurinx> does ubuntu 8.10 support SLI?
[21:02] <dr_willis> blip-,  try it and see?  kde also used to have the special fonts:// or was it fonts:\\\ location in its file manager
[21:02] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, I'd love to take the easy way out but I need to learn this
[21:02] <unop> dr_willis, the former
[21:02] <woody86> how can I start GDM after I've disabled it in the 'Services'
[21:02] <diskmount> Gnea, maybe the grub thing isnt crucial, I just need to uninstall the generic kernels and reinstall all the 3 rt things I deleted
[21:02] <blip-> k thanks dr_willis
[21:02] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, OpenJDK is not installed
[21:02] <unop> woody86, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[21:02] <Gnea> diskmount: i can't even remember it at this point.... do you have an account on ubuntuforums.org?
[21:02] <SiDi> ahem, i'm sorry K-4U but it's not in the compatible list :(
[21:03] <gbear14275> can anyone point me to being able to interface with a phone through linux support?  I heard it could be done but don't know how
[21:03] <K-4U> SiDi: Whut? I had it working.. once.. it was.. 7.04 i think
[21:03] <azurinx> hey, can anyone answer my question about SLI in 8.10?
[21:03] <woody86> unop, ok, and how can I make it the default?
[21:03] <Gnea> !dialup | gbear14275
[21:03] <cmv583> Jordan_U: after changing bios i have annoying white box on monitor! LOL
[21:03] <diskmount> Gnea, no, its no biggee, I just need to know what 3 things I need to reinstall, I know one was like rt-kernel, and there were 2 others, none ended in numbers
[21:03] <Jordan_U> cmv583, OK, if you ever want to get to your home directory you can get always get there by going through "File System" then to home/yourUserName
[21:03] <litong> I need some help with sounds in Ubuntu 8.10 I didn't find something useful for me on the google.... After I am loggin in the sounds of clicking etc are not working
[21:03] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, would Openjdk be a program that comes installed on ubuntu stock?
[21:03] <thebigham> Why does ubuntu opens up the file manager when i login???
[21:03] <bsod_> здрасти
[21:03] <SiDi> K-4U, its not in the list of easycam's compatible cams so it won't work from you = no need to go further with easycam, you'll have to find the drivers the usual way :/
[21:03] <dr_willis> thebigham,  i woudl guess you saved a session with one open.
[21:04] <Gnea> diskmount: well, I ask because, if you want to write it down, you should do it there so that way you can remember and it will help others
[21:04] <lasivian> I had wireless before, I ran kismet and now after I rebooted I have no wireless detected
[21:04] <unop> woody86, sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults
[21:04] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, it's an opensource version of Java
[21:04] <Jordan_U> cmv583, But you don't need to do that to move your /home, we will be using the terminal anyway
[21:04] <lasivian> no card listed at all
[21:04] <Javier> good afternoon, can somebody help me with some dvd playback problems
[21:04] <Gnea> Javier: what sort of problems?
[21:04] <thebigham> dr_wills, how do i unsave it?????
[21:04] <K-4U> SiDi: Okay... not good.. someone told me the gspcav modules..
[21:04] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, actually java comes 95% openSource but the 5% remaining requires an EULA so it's not installed by default
[21:04] <LinuxLover4_> and trying desperatly to configure samba
[21:04] <LinuxLover4_> Im haveing trouble configureing samba on an ubuntu server 8.10. I can never seem to get my shares to work. Vista tells me that the share is unavailable, and xp asks me for a password, but nothing works! This is my third round of trying to get samba to work. Any help? please??
[21:04] <cmv583> Jordan_U: ok that worked
[21:04] <Stargazer> How come i can no longer see my Font files (*.ttf), i used to be able to preview/see them in Hardy Heron but now i can't in Intrepid Ibex.
[21:04] <SiDi> K-4U, well i wish you good luck with it.
[21:04] <Javier> when i try to play a dvd totem turns gray and stops working
[21:04] <Gnea> !samba | LinuxLover4_
[21:05] <Gnea> LinuxLover4_: did you install swat?
[21:05] <K-4U> SiDi: Well.. thanks.. i guess..
[21:05] <SiDi> K-4U, by the way if you fiind something, let me know and i'll forward to easycam's dev
[21:05] <gbear14275> Gnea: Was talking more about transferring files and accessing the phone's filesystem
[21:05] <azurinx> LinuxLover4 : check the authentication method... it should be set to user
[21:05] <Gnea> gbear14275: oh, well that depends on what phone it is
[21:05] <LinuxLover4_> ubottu: Gnea i am installing swat right now,
[21:05] <cmv583> Jordan_U:  whenever you're ready, i appreciate the help
[21:05] <LinuxLover4_> azurinx: it is comented out
[21:05] <K-4U> SiDi: Okay, i'll try.. the only problem i have atm is the compile error from gspcav..
[21:05] <Gnea> !pm | Javier
[21:05] <unop> Stargazer, they were probably uninstalled in the upgrade process ? a guess
[21:05] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, go to System > Administration > Software sources
[21:05] <woody86> unop, that said it 'etc/init.d/gdm missing LSB style header'
[21:05] <unop> !fonts | Stargazer
[21:05] <dr_willis> LinuxLover4 there is also the 'samba-doc' package that has books on confguring samba. :) I basicially install the samba server, edit /etc/smb.conf to be the proper Workgroup. and enable the HOME shares.. i then give each linux user a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'
[21:06] <gbear14275> w755
[21:06] <diskmount> Gnea is linux generic headers one of the things I can remove
[21:06] <gbear14275> Gnea: w755
[21:06] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, i'll make you do what i exactly did to get OOo, which i use flawlessly :)
[21:06] <yao_ziyuan> is it normal to have two scim-launcher's running, one for gtk+ apps, the other for qt apps, especially in kubuntu?
[21:06] <Javier> ok sorry
[21:06] <Gnea> diskmount: you can, but i wouldn't recommend it
[21:06] <cmv583> Jordan_U: sorry about pm.:-[
[21:06] <Gnea> gbear14275: i don't know who makes that
[21:06] <Jordan_U> cmv583, np
[21:06] <Javier> when i try to play a dvd with totem it turns gray and stops wprking
[21:06] <VaMpIr3> hello
[21:06] <lasivian> why would a wireless card completely drop from the list of detected devices on a notebook?
[21:06] <unop> woody86, hmm, try enabling it the same way you disabled it then -- if that gives the same error, you might want to reinstall gdm.
[21:06] <lasivian> I had this happen before and I had to reinstall for it to come back
[21:06] <Jordan_U> cmv583, OK, first you need to make your external drive one large ext3 partition, you can do that with a program called gparted either from the installed system or from the Ubuntu CD ( it comes by default on the CD, you need to install it if you want to use it on a default installed system )
[21:06] <charles__> hey guys, i have a problem with my wireless on an acer aspire 3680. the jockey hardware drivers dialog installed drivers without a problem, but network manager doesn't seem to notice it.
[21:07] <Gnea> gbear14275: and next time you say 'phone', make sure you say 'cellphone', because, believe it or not, landlines are still out there and plenty in use :)
[21:07] <cmv583> Jordan_U: i'm new to linux but anxious to learn
[21:07] <diskmount> Gnea but I need to go ahead and reinstal linux-image-rt
[21:07] <gleesond> so I have an ubuntu machine that used to run as a desktop but now it is headless... how to I turn X off and stop it from restarting itself
[21:07] <Gnea> diskmount: is it asking if you want to uninstall the headers?
[21:07] <charles__> ifconfig shows i have 3 interfaces; lo, eth0, eth1. eth1 is clearly the wireless card
[21:07] <woody86> unop, well 'Services' are greyed out, and I can't unlock it either
[21:07] <litong> I need some help with sounds in Ubuntu 8.10 I didn't find something useful for me on the google.... After I am loggin in the sounds of clicking etc are not working
[21:07] <c_korn> is there a log of the root partition decryption at boot time?
[21:07] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, I'm trying to install Java 6 now
[21:07] <K-4U> SiDi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/103239/ <-- this is the error
[21:07] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, once you opened "Sources of software" window (in System > Administration) go to "3rd party software" tab and click on Add+
[21:07] <Stargazer> Unop, it's not that i don't know how to install them it's just i can no longer preview the font... in hardy i could double click the font file and a window would pop open with some text showing me different sizes of the text and symbols.
[21:08] <gbear14275> Gnea: sorry, motorola
[21:08] <charles__> iwlist scan says all interfaces don't support scanning
[21:08] <diskmount> Gnea no, last night I was working with flannel and we uninstalled 3 rt things, modules, rt, and something elese
[21:08] <charles__> what do i do guys
[21:08] <cmv583> Jordan_U: i won't lose anything on there?
[21:08] <unop> Stargazer, ahh, sorry, no idea then
[21:08] <gbear14275> someone just told me a command about d message or something in terminal... what is it?
[21:08] <gbear14275> nvm
[21:08] <unop> woody86,  reinstall gdm perhaps.  sudo aptitude reinstall gdm
[21:08] <Jordan_U> cmv583, You will loose any data on the external drive
[21:08] <wolter> is there any dificulties in using an ntfs partition as home?
[21:08] <dr_willis> gbear14275,  you mean 'dmesg' ?
[21:08] <Gnea> gbear14275: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=848671
[21:09] <dr_willis> wolter,  in short DONT don it.
[21:09] <SiDi> K-4U, i'm saving it. If you find the working drivers, you can find me on this irc and let me know and i'll post at the dev's blog
[21:09] <lasivian> my wireless is no longer showing up in dmesg at all
[21:09] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, now I can't get Java6 to install :(
[21:09] <cmv583> Jordan_U:  thats where i have been saving everything to!!!!!!!!!!
[21:09] <gbear14275> dr_willis: yup, thanks
[21:09] <cmv583> Jordan_U: ouch
[21:09] <dr_willis> wolter,   if you need easy access to a ntfs parittion from home. make a link to it.
[21:09] <Galadx> dr_willis, so i installed it, and im going through the setup, will it ask to partition the drives?
[21:09] <K-4U> SiDi: I will do my best ;)
[21:09] <diskmount> Gnea, I found it, if I reinstall linux-rt, it auto isnalls the images and modules
[21:09] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, ok let's solve Java then and then i tell you how to install OOo's repository :p
[21:09] <blip-> дAдAд
[21:09] <wolter> dr_willis, yeah..
[21:09] <litong> I need some help with sounds in Ubuntu 8.10 I didn't find something useful for me on the google.... After I am loggin in the sounds of clicking etc are not working
[21:09] <oelileo> :) hi folks
[21:09] <Jordan_U> cmv583, Well that makes things a bit trickier :)
[21:09] <Gnea> diskmount: hm, okay...
[21:09] <gbear14275> Gnea: THANKS!  thats awesome
[21:09] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, okay
[21:09] <cmv583> Jordan_U: lol
[21:09] <Gnea> gbear14275: cheers
[21:09] <dr_willis> Galadx,  it should.. read what the isntaller says and see. i recall it asking  'use all of the disk' and other questions
[21:09] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, I untarred the tar and now I have a folder with two files in it
[21:09] <fitforthesun> hi...i just reinstalled my OS (8.04) and am trying to set up wireless...can anyone help?
[21:10] <lasivian> does Ubuntu do a complete device redetection on reboot?
[21:10] <Bax> nickrud: grrr, getting the same messages from the update manager.  The readout I got from sudo apt-get update didn't look that positive, http://paste.ubuntu.com/103274/
[21:10] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, you need to stop downloading stuff. That's not how Ubuntu works :)
[21:10] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, both are .bin files
[21:10] <Gnea> lasivian: yes.
[21:10] <Jordan_U> cmv583, Do you know what the external is formatted as ( ext3, fat, ntfs ) ?
[21:10] <SiDi> TheFunkbomb, open the "Add/Remove" window (in Applications menu)
[21:10] <cmv583> Jordan_U: boils down to memory and an uneducated decision when first installing ubuntu and ditching windoze.
[21:10] <AMDfanboy> hi, my sound worked than i guess got killed in an update.  ubuntu 8.10 amd64.  can someone whose sound works go into system preferences sound and tell me what it says?  so actually it makes sound, but its just crackling
[21:10] <lasivian> Gnea: so if it's not detecting something after a reboot that device has a problem?
[21:10] <TheFunkbomb> SiDi, okay, I did that.
[21:10] <vinicius> unop, humn... no ufw command here :p
[21:10] <cmv583> Jordan_U: vfat
[21:11] <Gnea> lasivian: quite possibly. what does it seem to not be detecting?