[15:42] <tseliot> ogasawara, apw, sforshee: I've just uploaded nvidia-340 in xenial-proposed with the refreshed patch
[15:42] <tseliot> LP: #1677327
[15:43] <sforshee> tseliot: awesome, thanks!
[15:43] <ogasawara> tseliot: sweet, thanks!
[15:43] <tseliot> :)
[22:53] <ivan> can someone please push the Ubuntu-4.4.0-72.93 tag to ubuntu-xenial.git, it's hard to track down commits by the commit subjects in the package changelog
[23:00] <ivan> hurray I've found them in davem/net.git
[23:30] <chatter29> hey guys
[23:30] <chatter29> allah is doing


[16:39] <humphreybc> Ilya Haykinson is currently giving a presentation of writing style for the Ubuntu Manual Project 48 hours event, #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[16:39] <humphreybc> Also you can connect using Lernid
[16:47] <humphreybc> "dutchie89<EMAIL_ADDRESS>entered the room."
[22:04] <slacker_nl> is there going to be a new summer of documentation?
[22:26] <Rocket2DMn> slacker_nl, i headed those up the last 2 years
[22:26] <Rocket2DMn> a guy called startcraft.man might head up this year's
[22:30] <Rocket2DMn> however, any time is a good time to contribute, you dont need to wait for summer
[22:43] <slacker_nl> Rocket2DMn: i'm already contributing, but if SoD is going to happen again I would like to help, that's all :)


[03:28] <culinarian> how do I force a mythtv session to end? it's hung on the media settings page and not allowing me to esc out.
[03:29] <dashcloud> you could kill the mythfrontend process
[03:29] <culinarian> I'm really new to all things linux... how do I do that please?
[03:29] <dashcloud> killall mythfrontend should do it
[03:31] <hads> mythfrontend.real maybe
[03:31] <culinarian> cool, yeah, that was the one, the .real
[03:34] <culinarian> also, if you could help with this one... my screen resoulution in the myth front and back menus seems to be strange... some of the text on the right margin is getting clipped as well as the tool tips when I highlight items is not displayed fully. I assume it's a screen rez problem, but the last time I adjusted those settings I still didn't know what I was doing and ended up only being able to read the top left qtr of the screen. any advice?
[03:35] <culinarian> oh, for the record.. I'm currently just running on a standard desktop crt monitor. I've got no tv's connected at the moment
[04:05] <etcetera> has anyone gotten the pinnacle 800i remote to work in mythbuntu 8.10 ?
[07:21] <^V^> Hi, I've followed the instruction for weekly mythtv fixes builds at http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds , but it seems like no new packages are found for intrepid. The current installed version is 18722.
[07:24] <^V^> Also, are the source packages provided there too?
[07:38] <^V^> Interesting... I was using the US mirror and it wasn't upgrading for me... now that I switched over to the UK mirror new packages have been found.
[21:10] <sebrock_> is the imon LCD patch now included in lcdproc on intrepid?
[21:37] <rhartma4> Sorry, IRC newbie here.  Is this thing on?
[21:39] <laga> yes
[21:39] <rhartma4> Oh, ok - thanks.  Not much discussion going on then, eh?
[21:40] <laga> yup
[21:40] <laga> everybody is probably busy watching t
[21:40] <laga> v
[21:40] <rhartma4> Yeah, I would be if I could get my Mythbox to cooperate!  Anybody have some pointers for resolving video resolution issues?
[21:41] <hads> Specific questions will get you better answers.
[21:43] <rhartma4> Right then.  Want to connect Mythbuntu (8.04) to HDTV via VGA cable.  Can set resolution to the needed 1024x768@60 Hz when connected to monitor.  However, if I reboot when connected to TV - it hangs.  Suspect auto-detection is the culprite.  Thoughts?  More details?
[21:46] <rhartma4> Have been messing with xorg.conf, xrandr (via gdm.conf-custom), and gksudo displayconfig-gtk.  Not much luck.  I could be using them wrong.  Tons of information out there.  Was hoping someone could point in best direction to focus on understanding.
[21:48] <hads> I can't see why it would hang
[21:49] <hads> Is it actually hung or can you switch to a VT and look at logs.
[21:50] <rhartma4> Well, keyboard num-lock won't work and all I see on the TV screen (and monitor if I change the connection) is blank.
[21:50] <rhartma4> Tried Ctl-Alt-F1, etc.  No command prompt to try to figure out what happened.
[21:51] <rhartma4> Only way I can get it to work is to reboot with monitor connected, then transfer cable to TV w/o rebooting.  If I reboot after that, it's hosed.
[21:52] <rhartma4> I've seen mention of disabling EDID or DDC (not sure which to use - tried both).  Basically, trying to turn off auto-detection.
[21:54] <rhartma4> PC has integrated Intel 845G/GL video adapter.  I thought about putting in a nVidia card I have, just to use their GUI tool.  Seemed like a waste of $$ to through hardware at the problem.  Then again, spending 3 weekends on it is probably not very smart either! ;)
[21:55] <hads> Yeah, depends how much your time is worth :)
[21:55] <hads> I have Intel systems and Nvidia systems, it's more the TV's that are the pain though from what I hear
[21:56] <rhartma4> Yes, I suspect the Toshiba TV I have is either not sending EDID data or sending bad data.
[21:56] <rhartma4> But, why is there no convenient manual override of the settings. Enough of this auto-detect stuff already. It makes sense for PCI cards, but I don't get why it's necessary for external monitors/etc.
[21:58] <rhartma4> Any insight as to the difference in xrandr vs. xorg.conf?  Are they the same mechanism for control, or does one override the other?  What about the Settings Manager --> Dispplay.  What does that even do?
[21:59] <rhartma4> Not to mention in MCC there is a "Launch Xorg Config" which has yet another different display configuration tool.  None of which seem to override whatever auto-detect is going on.
[22:00] <rhartma4> OK, well if anyone has any good suggestions, I posted something on the forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1017794
[22:02] <rhartma4> Guess I'll go install the Nvidia card and reinstall Mythbuntu.  From reading the forums, it seems 8.10 has had more unfixable video issues.  Should I stick with 8.04, or give 8.10 a try?
[22:05] <rhartma4> Oh well, thanks for listening.  I"ll keep the GUI open just in case anyone chimes in...
[22:07] <ajhtiredwolf> Hey has anyone used the pvr-150? I just got it because i had heard how good the quality was, but the quality im getting is pretty poor. Im on US cable
[22:30] <gregL> ajhtiredwolf, What video driver are you using? I use the 150 and it works pretty good..How are you feeding it (direct cable,set top box) ?
[23:06] <ajhtiredwolf> gregL 150 and cable
[23:40] <destructar> hi all. attempting to get my apple bluetooth keyboard working in mythbuntu 8.1... i was able to get it paired and can even get the keyboard connected for 3 - 5 seconds if i press a key
[23:41] <destructar> however after being connected no keys respond and the connection is dropped
[23:45] <destructar> any help or info on this would be much appreciated


[06:44] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[06:44] <knightwise> good morning brobostigon
[06:44] <brobostigon> morning knightwise
[06:45] <knightwise> hows it goin dude
[06:47] <brobostigon> first coffee of the day dissappearing quickly, mostly asleep, and you?
[06:48] <knightwise> havent had coffee yet , still on tea
[06:49] <brobostigon> :)
[06:52] <knightwise> Just posted the new podcast: https://knightwise.com/kw1302-a-look-at-knightwises-kindle/
[06:56]  * brobostigon has knightwise's blog setup in his tt-rss installation, :)
[06:58] <knightwise> :)
[06:58] <knightwise> yeah ,  we have shows lined up untill mid october :)
[06:58] <brobostigon> :)
[07:00] <knightwise> been preparing a "retro 80's cartoon themesong cover episode"
[07:02] <brobostigon> https://taylorworld.one my work in progress, :)
[08:01] <knightwise> oooh RPG
[08:11] <brobostigon> :)
[08:23] <knightwise> Hmm.. been buying some of those BDM magazines in the shop
[08:23] <knightwise> computerbooks about coding, raspberry pi etc
[08:23] <knightwise> pretty low level but well done.
[08:23] <knightwise> 180 page magazines full of projects and instructions
[08:24] <knightwise> only now found out they are also available as online pdf's for half the price
[08:29] <brobostigon> thats a big difference, magazines like that are inheritly expensive here, thats why my brother still buys the C'T magazine for me, which is 4.9 euro, which is £4.37, a magazine like that here would be 4 times that price.
[08:32] <knightwise> I think i payed 19 euro's for the edition i got yesterday
[08:32] <brobostigon> ouch.
[08:32] <knightwise> But i would prefer to have the digital versions
[08:36] <knightwise> I'm realy into digital reading
[08:36] <knightwise> things kicked up a notch when I found an old kindle fire at the dump this weekend :)
[08:36] <knightwise> now I have a small tablet to read pdf's and stuff :)
[08:37] <brobostigon> :)
[09:04] <knightwise> amazing what people throw away
[09:04] <brobostigon> oh yes.
[09:07] <knightwise> Its a secret hobby of mine.
[09:07] <knightwise> going to the recycling center, dumpsterdiving in the electronics bin and bringing home stuff just to fix it up and give it away
[09:07]  * knightwise loves that
[09:08] <brobostigon> :)
[09:14] <knightwise> hmm. now I just need to look for a Sonos replacement for the office
[09:15] <knightwise> been thinking about using musicbox on a pi
[09:48] <knightwise> or I might just install mopidby on an old imac I have lying around
[12:02] <zxmoy-pi> i've had a few ereaders from 7" cool-er to 5" kobo and a few inbetween.  i usually just switch back to using phone after a while.
[12:02] <knightwise> Nah , cant read on a phone
[12:04] <zxmoy-pi> my first ereader was a palm iiix so i'm used to small screens. these days i use my nokia 3310 2017 edition for reading
[12:04] <zxmoy-pi> the battery life is near infinite on the bugger :-)
[12:04] <knightwise> yes ! Same for me
[12:04] <knightwise> read a TON of books on that one
[12:05] <knightwise> Palm
[12:05] <knightwise> handspring visor
[12:05] <zxmoy-pi> i tried reading on my earlier pda a psion 3a but it wasn't as comfy to hold to read a book
[12:05] <knightwise> ipaQ (yes , that s a q)
[12:05] <knightwise> then the Sony PRS 505
[12:05] <knightwise> a kobo, a kindle and now a kindle oasis
[12:05] <zxmoy-pi> i remember the compaq ipaqs. one of the better pocket pc devices iirc
[12:06] <knightwise> yes
[12:06] <zxmoy-pi> still dreadful but way better than the rest
[12:06] <knightwise> I read the entire han solo trilogy on the iPaq
[12:06] <knightwise> and then some , a lot by arthur c clarke and of course star trek novels
[12:07] <zxmoy-pi> i have all clarke and star trek on my nokia :-)
[12:07] <zxmoy-pi> about 10gb of ebooks
[12:08] <knightwise> Rama was probably my favorite (the first one)
[12:09] <zxmoy-pi> i like the sequels but the series should have stopped after the first one alright
[12:14] <knightwise> yep , never got through the second one
[12:14] <knightwise> this weeks podcast is about "what am i reading"
[12:20] <zxmoy-pi> the last line in the first one left it a wonderful anticipation....
[12:28] <knightwise> yep , but then the second books tanks
[12:28] <knightwise> enjoyed the space oddissey series too
[12:38] <zxmoy-pi> 2061 is the weak one of that series and i still enjoyed it... they keep saying they're going to make the film....
[12:44] <diplo> Morning all
[12:44] <diplo> Afternoon even
[12:46] <knightwise> 2061  ? I thought that was the best one
[12:47] <zxmoy-pi> 3001 > 2010 > 2001 > 2061 would be my order
[12:48] <zxmoy-pi> but i suspect the movie version of 2010 really made me like it a bit more as it was so good
[12:50] <zxmoy-pi> especially the way 3001 was left open for a sequel as i read it...
[12:59] <knightwise> yep , but never finished
[12:59] <knightwise> I thought the book was way better then the movie
[13:01] <zxmoy-pi> it was but the movie did the ships well... they did zero gravity well, the aerobraking looked fantastic....
[13:01] <knightwise> that is true
[13:01] <knightwise> and the guy who did the lead (the guy from jaws) great lead
[13:01] <knightwise> great cast
[13:01] <zxmoy-pi> yup
[13:26] <knightwise> teehee :) I found an old kindle fire at the dump yesterday ,
[13:26] <knightwise> turns out the thing supports bluetooth keyboard and mouse ! hilarious
[13:27] <zxmoy-pi> if it's new enough you should be able to plug in a usb keyboard and mouse via an otg cable....
[13:28] <knightwise> ah ! i have one of those lying around too
[13:32] <knightwise> sshd in via the fire :)
[13:32] <knightwise> ha
[13:34] <knightwise> insane that this thing even has a mini kb and mouse
[19:43] <diddledan> seagulls are coming home to roost
[19:43] <diddledan> big weird when the nearest sea is 50 miles away
[19:43] <zxmoy-pi> very noisy outside as i walked home earlier.  suggests rain
[19:44] <zxmoy-pi> about 2m from sea
[19:44] <brobostigon> oh yeah https://photos.app.goo.gl/tqL6iLLYzif15Nf76 :)