[12:00] <ossie> ok i got the headers what do i do with them, ??
[12:00] <cafuego> ossie: Keep in mind the tutorial may be wrong.
[12:00] <ossie> ok
[12:01] <pashaw> Craxy, your info is soo vague     does/did windows detect the disks  be fore you tried ubuntu?   jumpers wrong?   ide channel enabled in bios?
[12:01] <rinzai-shu> nuxGuru: aye...it is...
[12:01] <cafuego> ossie: I would personally grab a newer kenrel (maybe the one from dapper), seeing as that supposedly has built-in support.
[12:01] <Craxy> void^: pastebin output of disk -I and dmesg, dont really understand that part, would you mind to explain that part?
[12:01] <ossie> can i apt-get this new kernel??
[12:01] <cafuego> ossie: Yes, you can.
[12:01] <Hanzo__> can ubuntu be installed to a Hard drive.?
[12:01] <cmatheson> Hanzo__: that's mostly the point
[12:01] <Seveas> Hanzo__, yes
[12:02] <nuxGuru> k.. next question .. am trying to install PengAOL.. is there anyone here that is familiar with it
[12:02] <cmatheson> nuxGuru: if you're looking for IM i would just stick w/ gaim
[12:02] <ossie> sorry to keep on do u have the apt-get command i should use for the new kernel with support??
[12:02] <cafuego> ossie: It's a bit more involved than that, as you need to make some chnages to pull it from the right repository.
[12:02] <Craxy> pashaw: windows detected the disks before i had windows installed, but the computer has aged since then, does someone know how i can check if the disks works?
[12:03] <darker-shadow> i have a few question about ubuntu and ntfs partitions,can som one help me?
[12:03] <rinzai-shu> "windows detected the disks before i had windows installed"  that does not compute!
[12:03] <screenresolution> How to ask ubutu about screen resoultion
[12:03] <cmatheson> !anybody
[12:03] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[12:03] <ossie> cafu what repositries do i need please
[12:03] <tsawyer> stick with gaim..but if you're diehard about getting pengaol..go here
[12:03] <tsawyer> http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAOL.html
[12:04] <screenresolution> how to change resolution?
[12:04] <screenresolution> max is 640by800
[12:04] <nuxGuru> am currently getting error: pengaol:error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3    cannont open object file: no such file or directory
[12:04] <void^> Craxy: what i meant is: get the output of `fdisk -l` and `dmesg` on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - might be easier to just boot knoppix or another livecd to test it..
[12:04] <darker-shadow> questions*
[12:04] <nuxGuru> I need this to work to get ubuntu to talk to web
[12:04] <screenresolution> questions*
[12:04] <psycose> ossie i think you should first find an official howto that will help you to undestand more ..
[12:05] <nuxGuru> yea .. I am an aol user
[12:05] <screenresolution> !ubutu tell screenresolution about screen resolution
[12:05] <ubotu> screenresolution: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:05] <ossie> so read officail howto , on upgrading kernel to dappper biuld??
[12:05] <cmatheson> !fixres
[12:05] <ubotu> from memory, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:05] <pashaw> Craxy, you could try a live_CD  in a terminal type  fdisk -l  to see detected drives/partitions   you could reinstall any windows OS just to make sure the jumpers and drives are working
[12:05] <cmatheson> screenresolution: go to that link
[12:05] <Xkiddiegrinders> Hey, I have a quick question, is there an easier way to strect icons other than right clicking them and then selecting the stretch option, its just a slow process...or better yet, is there a way to set a default desktop icon size
[12:06] <Hanzo__> why is there no china mirror on the DL page?
[12:06] <darker-shadow> is it dangerous to allow ubunto read amd write on ntfs partition?
[12:06] <pashaw> Craxy, drives not detected can be alot of things    until you rule out hardware setup  fixing possible Linux errors is a pain
[12:06] <Seveas> Hanzo__, because there is noen?
[12:06] <Seveas> none even
[12:06] <cmatheson> Hanzo__: where in china are you?  maybe you could just use the taiwanese mirrors?
[12:06] <Hanzo__> im not in china
[12:07] <trappist> after all, taiwan = china
[12:07] <vir> could it be the mobo hdd controler is not being picked up?
[12:07] <psycose> ossie what are you trying to do ?
[12:07] <cafuego> ossie: Let me go and get a fresh coffee, then I'll talk you through it.
[12:07] <ossie> cheers very much
[12:07] <ossie> i just want to add support for my ite raid card
[12:07] <cmatheson> Hanzo__: so what's the deal w/ chinese mirrors?
[12:07] <nuxGuru> am trying to get a number of aol users to convert... but I need to get it to work for me before I can help them...
[12:08] <ossie> from what i see on the ubuntu formus, i could do it by adding the files to the kernel
[12:08] <Hanzo__> cmatheson all those people who live there (1.3 billion)
[12:08] <Hanzo__> they could use ubuntu?
[12:08] <ossie> there is a tutorail there and all goes well untill the last make command
[12:09] <cmatheson> Hanzo__: it wouldn't take long for them to set up a mirror if they wanted  it.  there probably are mirrors and it's just not official anyway
[12:09] <vir> nuxGuru  are they using bb or dial up?
[12:09] <psycose> ossie, what is the tutorial ... ? at what step do you fail ?
[12:09] <nuxGuru> I am on dialup.. they are on dialup
[12:09] <ossie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=597303
[12:09] <vir> ok
[12:09] <Stormx2> Back
[12:09] <Xkiddiegrinders> Does anyone at all know how to constrain icons by default?
[12:09] <ossie> if u see that post i posted my failure message on there
[12:09] <nuxGuru> until I can get dialup to work on aol. the ubuntu is worthless
[12:09] <dailyrorschach> any users here using a dell latitude d600, I used it with hoary but had some problems want to know if breezy works well on it.  Also www.ubuntuguide.org is there a similar site for version 5.10
[12:10] <rinzai-shu> nuxGuru: that is not a very good argument buddy.  you should find a good local isp and sign up with them, and get your friends to do the same.  there's simply no go excuse to stay with aol
[12:10] <ossie> as soon as i have my raid card sorted, ill be ok to sort out my other little issues
[12:10] <nuxGuru> they neeed to add support in the cd release for dialup users and to support the  PengAol
[12:10] <Hanzo__> is ubuntu compatibel for remote desktop (send and host)  connections to XP machines?
[12:11] <psycose> ossie, what is is the error ou get ? from what command ?
[12:11] <rinzai-shu> Hanzo__: yes it is
[12:11] <ossie> hanzo yes, u could host a vncerver on your ubuntu box and use a vnc compatible client on the xp macine
[12:11] <nuxGuru> there is no reason for you to get 'opiniataed' on a users choice of "ISP
[12:11] <ossie> ill show u psycose
[12:12] <psycose> ossie use a pastebin so you can show other people later..
[12:12] <Hanzo__> i need to connect to the computer(s) at work using VPN, for RDC, thats all
[12:12] <rinzai-shu> Hanzo__: Applications > Internet > Terminal Server Client
[12:12] <Kvark> I'm trying to burn a bunch of files to a CD but it says that some of the files have invalid file names ...how do I solve that or figure out which files to rename?
[12:12] <ossie> ok
[12:12] <pashaw> Hanzo__,  remote desktop is in the base install  use any VNC viewer to access it
[12:12] <Hanzo__> rinzai-shu, is that a GUI?
[12:12] <rinzai-shu> Hanzo__: yes
[12:12] <Hanzo__> or command line?
[12:12] <Hanzo__> thanks
[12:12] <rinzai-shu> pashaw: VNC != RDP
[12:13] <nuxGuru> so ... is there any  assistance here to help me get pengaol to work
[12:13] <ossie> http://pastebin.com/475842
[12:13] <Hanzo__> i think its called L2tp onto the VPN
[12:14] <ossie> psycose, http://pastebin.com/475842
[12:14] <gerry> Has anyone seamlessly logon with ADS authentication?
[12:14] <rinzai-shu> Hanzo__: VPN is not the same as RDP either...you'll have to use something else to establish the VPN connection (e.g. FreeSWan) and then use Terminal Server Client to make the RDP connection over the VPN
[12:14] <ossie> if it would be easier i will just use the new dapper kernel
[12:15] <rinzai-shu> hahaha "band" handle...oops
[12:17] <gerry> Any LDAP guru in the room
[12:17] <nickrud> nuxGuru, the file you're looking for is in  libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 , part of gcc-2.95, a very old compiler. You may need to install it to compile your software
[12:17] <nickrud> *gcc-2.95
[12:17] <tidalwav1> Hi people, I have a specific question about bash scripting and awk...anyone know about these things and want to help?
[12:17] <cafuego> ossie: Ok. Now one thing to keep in mind is that hotplug may not work when running the dapper kenrel; it uses a different way of handling things, so usb disks may need to be manually mounted when plugged in.
[12:18] <rinzai-shu> gerry: LDAP is not specific to Ubuntu alone...have you tried the #ldap channel ?
[12:18] <ossie> no problem , i can mount disks
[12:18] <gerry> no i have not
[12:18] <ossie> u think this will be a pain with ipod?
[12:18] <nuxGuru> ty Nickrud .. will seee what I can do with it
[12:18] <gerry> thanks I will see if I can get some in sight there
[12:18] <tidalwav1> anyone know a lot about awk? :P
[12:18] <rinzai-shu> gerry: there's almost seventy folks on there.  one of em is bound to be a guru. ;-)
[12:18] <ossie> i also use a external usb dvdr
[12:18] <ga^vu> i'm trying to install opendc, because after the configure command ,,, it tells me ti type make...but "file not found"
[12:19] <ga^vu> why?
[12:19] <psycose> ossie,  well are you using the good version of gcc to compile the kernel ?
[12:19] <cafuego> ossie: Mine gets mounted by gtkpod on the dapper kernel.
[12:19] <ossie> cafuego, why have they removed such a important feature, also can i downgrade kernel
[12:19] <nuxGuru> cn you tell me wheere I might locate it?  I could go in and tryy to mod the pengaolsource to work with the new compiler . bt my programing skills are very ouitdated
[12:19] <rinzai-shu> ga^vu: do you have build-essentials and all that jazz installed?   sounds like you are missing make.
[12:19] <cafuego> ossie: They haven't removed it, it just doesn't work between the dapper kernel and the breezy userspace.
[12:19] <bradley_> hey anyone heard of hamachi?
[12:19] <Tricia564421> anyone know how to access the msn chats?  I am not talking im
[12:20] <nickrud> nuxGuru, I basically quit coding in 1989, so ... :)
[12:20] <ga^vu> aham
[12:20] <ossie> i made a link from version 4.30  to the required verision
[12:20] <ossie> of gcc i mean cafuego
[12:20] <nuxGuru> I quit in 90
[12:20] <ga^vu> I'll try that
[12:20] <jgrieves> any hacks to gdm to just allow a command line login?
[12:20] <ossie> i made a softlink
[12:20] <cmatheson> jgrieves: what do you mean?
[12:20] <crimsun_> jgrieves: meaning no display manager?
[12:20] <ossie> will the new kernel work with vmware??? as i need this
[12:20] <cafuego> ossie: What does 'gcc -v' say about the version?
[12:20] <jgrieves> cmatheson like an option to just stop gdm  + x and do a command line login
[12:20] <bradley_> anyone heard of hamachi?
[12:21] <jgrieves> cmatheson used to do it all the time with xdm
[12:21] <ilmari> where do I report bugs on packages that dont exist in bugzilla or launchpad?
[12:21] <nuxGuru> Unix has changed way too much .. and linux has many new terms and tools that I am not familiar wityh
[12:21] <ossie> sorry its 4.02 , cafuego
[12:21] <cafuego> ossie: vmware crashes (here) bith the 2.6.12 and 2.6.15 kernels.
[12:21] <crimsun_> jgrieves: echo false | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[12:21] <cmatheson> jgrieves: like 'apt-get remove gdm'? or chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm? or you could check out update-rc.d
[12:21] <cafuego> ossie: Ok, that's pobably the issue then. You need to run it with gcc 3.4
[12:21] <psycose> ossie, yes use 3.4 .....
[12:21] <nuxGuru> excuse my typos as I am a one handed touch typer
[12:21] <nickrud> minix was the 'thing' when I stopped. Almost got it out of byte, maybe my life would be different if I had ;)
[12:21] <bradley_> how do you map a network drive on linux?
[12:21] <ossie> can i install the 2 versions cafuego
[12:21] <ilmari> specifically, dhcdbd
[12:21] <jgrieves> no i just want like a button on GDM to click so i can revert to command line login
[12:22] <jgrieves> i guess i can use ctrl _ alt _+ 1?
[12:22] <cafuego> ossie: Yep. 'sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4'
[12:22] <jgrieves> im just used to m old xdm das :)
[12:22] <crimsun_> jgrieves: right, there's no pretty button by default.
[12:22] <duck__> anyone know where to get sgzip from?
[12:22] <cmatheson> jgrieves: yes you can use ctrl+alt+f1
[12:22] <cafuego> sgzip? Wassat?
[12:22] <jgrieves> crimsun_ alright
[12:22] <psycose> cafuego, even vmwareplayer ? vmwareplayer run good for me ... 2.6.12-10-k7
[12:22] <duck__> anyone?
[12:22] <ossie> sok im installing the proper version
[12:22] <psycose> ossie, Debian power ;)-
[12:22] <cafuego> psycose: Not tried the player, only workstation (the vmnet0 module makes the kernel oops)
[12:22] <jgrieves> crimsun_ cmatheson ty :)
[12:23] <tjs> having all sorts of issues with totem in firefox on breezy. I've installed win32codecs, totem wont use them. mplayer works so I installed mozilla-mplayer, firefox still uses totem. I apt-get removed totem, firefox -still loads totem??-
[12:23] <ossie> :) cheers, cafuego and everyone else
[12:23] <jgrieves> merry christmas
[12:23] <crimsun_> you, too
[12:23] <rinzai-shu> duck__: seekable gzip?
[12:23] <tjs> it says its the mozilla-totem plugin, but I can see no package in dpkg -l for that
[12:23] <ossie> how do i remove a solftlink ??can i just rm it ?
[12:23] <duck__> rinzai-shu,  thats the one, know where to find it?
[12:23] <cafuego> ossie: yes
[12:23] <tjs> how do I kill this totem thing?
[12:23] <tjs> with fire?
[12:24] <MrProper_> can we all organise a world wide boycott of using WMV and WMA codecs....friken annoying
[12:24] <tidalwav1> nobody can help me with awk?
[12:24] <MrProper_> tidalwav1, sure'
[12:24] <cmatheson> tjs: i think 'kill' would be more effective than fire... but whatever
[12:24] <duck__> rinzai-shu, i tried building from source, but it fails on: zlib.h: No such file or directory
[12:24] <ilba7r> !wlassistant
[12:24] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ilba7r
[12:24] <cafuego> MrProper_: wtf are you still use them? We've been boycotting them for YEARS.
[12:24] <tjs> cmatheson: :)
[12:24] <ilba7r> !info walassistant
[12:24] <cafuego> duck__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoApt
[12:24] <MrProper_> cafuego, hehe i dont use them but sometimes i need a clip they only give out in wmv piece of crap
[12:24] <cafuego> duck__: It will fix your problem.
[12:24] <psycose> cafuego, i'm pretty impress by the work they have done for the player... may be they scare about Xen that is coming ...
[12:24] <tidalwav1> MrProper: opening external dialog
[12:25] <rinzai-shu> duck__:  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=100803  ?
[12:25] <cafuego> duck__: Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CHeckInstall
[12:25] <MrProper_> tidalwav1, how do you mean?
[12:25] <nickrud> tjs, you could try installing totem-xine, or rm the libtotem stuff in the firefox plugin directory
[12:25] <tjs> ok, thanks :)
[12:25] <ossie> whoops i just deleted the real thing instead of the softlink, ??? andy way to fix that ??
[12:25] <tidalwav1> MrProper, I mean I opened an external dialog window to talk to you about my problem, because it's very specific
[12:25] <cafuego> ossie: reinstall (gcc)
[12:25] <ossie> hehehe, im like a bull in a china shop
[12:25] <ossie> hehehe
[12:25] <tidalwav1> MrProper, do you see the dialog window?
[12:26] <MrProper_> tidalwav1, no
[12:26] <cafuego> 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall gcc'
[12:26] <rinzai-shu> wmv makes the jesus baby cry :-(
[12:26] <tidalwav1> MrProper, forget it then, I"ll type it here, hang on
[12:26] <servoe> hhaha
[12:26] <servoe> baby jesus
[12:26] <rinzai-shu> servoe: yes, that one!
[12:26] <Aven> what's the command to see all current ssh connections?
[12:26] <psycose> ossie # ln -s target link_name
[12:27] <ossie> im being silly now , how do i reinstall, i have done another apt-get and it says its installed, but i just accidentaly delted it
[12:27] <cmatheson> Aven: you coud try something like ps -C ssh ; ps -C sshd
[12:27] <cmatheson> er, ps -gV
[12:27] <cmatheson> ack
[12:27] <cmatheson> ps -fC
[12:27] <Aven> ah, thanks
[12:28] <rinzai-shu> it is as if man ps has started spitting out random examples here
[12:28] <ga^vu> still won't make ?
[12:28] <ga^vu> why?
[12:28] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, ping
[12:28] <ossie> cafuego, i delted the files froom /usr/bin
[12:28] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, wassup?
[12:28] <ossie> i thoguht i was delting the softlinks
[12:28] <ossie> but i have delted the files
[12:29] <jax0m> if someone emailed me a .tar.gz in three parts (main.tar.gz.part.aa, ab, ac) how do i get all three together?
[12:29] <cafuego> 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall gcc'
[12:29] <ossie> cafuego, your a star
[12:29] <Hanzo__> hey kbrooks
[12:29] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, wassup?
[12:30] <ossie> i tried reinstall , but i was doing it wrong cheers
[12:30] <ossie> its done by the looks of it < whooope
[12:30] <Hanzo__> nothing, just asking about the VPN config
[12:30] <void^> jax0m: cat blah* > foo
[12:30] <rinzai-shu> jax0m: 'someone' should have included some instructions for you!
[12:30] <_nesta> i just made a mistake and associated all files with xmms media player ... now i cant go to my system setting ... it pops up the media player instead ... how can i undo this ???
[12:31] <varsendagger> hey what is a good program for me too look at my har4d drive graphically, sizes and stuff?
[12:31] <jax0m> hmm
[12:31] <ossie> i was using suse, but it go slow and bloated , so i cam eback to ubuntu hoping to get my raid card sorted, then im happy with it
[12:31] <jax0m> void^, just append it?
[12:31] <ossie> had sound card issues on suse, it would work when it felt like
[12:31] <sureshot> hey does anyone know of a viusal type basic dev. pacage other than gambas
[12:32] <cafuego> Yay, my v6 tunnel is back
[12:32] <ossie> i prefer ubuntu , but suse had built in support for my radi card
[12:32] <Yamato> ciao, anyone who speak italian?
[12:32] <nemik> when you plug in an ipod, where is it connected in /dev/? for me it puts it in /media/ipod as mount-point which is OK but it is read-only! how can i make it write-able?
[12:32] <HymnToLife> !it
[12:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:32] <void^> jax0m: try it.. looks like the kind of files produced by split (see man split)
[12:32] <jax0m> k
[12:32] <jax0m> thanks void^
[12:32] <Yamato> ubotu> grazie (tnx)
[12:32] <ubotu> Yamato: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:33] <jax0m> jax0m@mantits:~/Desktop$ sudo cat main.tar.gz.part.aa > main.tar.gz.part.ab
[12:33] <jax0m> bash: main.tar.gz.part.ab: Permission denied
[12:33] <psycose> ossie you can use MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-2.95" to specify the gcc version you want to use ....
[12:33] <Yamato> yap, I understood!
[12:33] <ossie> sweet, ill rember that for future
[12:33] <rinzai-shu> jax0m: you cannot use redirection like that with sudo
[12:33] <HymnToLife> Yamato > ubotu is a bot
[12:33] <Yamato> I've just swich to ubuntu.it
[12:33] <Yamato> lol, ok...
[12:34] <void^> jax0m: cat [all part files here]  > output_file_here
[12:34] <rinzai-shu> jax0m: if you must use sudo, do something like :  sudo sh -c cat main.tar.gz.part.aa > main.tar.gz.part.ab
[12:34] <_nesta> can anyone help please
[12:34] <void^> jax0m: be careful, sudo might only affect cat but not the redirection after >
[12:34] <_nesta> i just made a mistake and associated all files with xmms media player ... now i cant go to my system setting ... it pops up the media player instead ... how can i undo this ???
[12:34] <psycose> ossie, so are you ok ?
[12:34] <ga^vu> why after ./configure won't it accept may make?
[12:34] <ossie> yes seems good so far
[12:35] <ossie> many many thanks
[12:35] <ossie> u guys/ gals are great
[12:35] <duck__> cafuego, worked wonders, thanks
[12:36] <sureshot> just a quick question. does anyone know of a dev package for linux that is like visual basic other than gambas
[12:36] <ossie> i wish i would have converted to linux years ago
[12:36] <ossie> wasted too long on windas
[12:36] <rinzai-shu> ossie: it is never too late to begin anew
[12:37] <ossie> i just started a new job that u support software on linux too, so i thought now is a great time to start using at home
[12:37] <ga^vu> why after ./configure won't it accept may make?
[12:37] <ga^vu> heeelp meee...please :D
[12:37] <ossie> one of my work buddys recommended ubuntu
[12:37] <psycose> ossie, just remember to read the man first and you will boost increasingly
[12:37] <ossie> hehehe, yes :)
[12:37] <Hanzo__> is Ubuntu compatibel with USB memory sticks 128mb  ?
[12:37] <crimsun_> Hanzo__: yes
[12:39] <Hanzo__> can the aMule program be installed?
[12:39] <crimsun_> Hanzo__: sure
[12:39] <varsendagger> hey what is a good program for me too look at my har4d drive graphically, sizes and stuff?
[12:39] <ossie> what else could i do with biulding my own kernel??
[12:39] <ossie> is the possiblities endless
[12:40] <crimsun_> varsendagger: System> Administration> System Monitor
[12:40] <crimsun_> (DappeR)
[12:40] <jax0m> void^, i hope this works ;)
[12:40] <crimsun_> varsendagger: in Breezy, check Applications> System Tools
[12:41] <varsendagger> crimsun_, i only use fluxbox and i have seen some cool programs but i can't seem to find them again
[12:41] <rinzai-shu> varsendagger: xdu, qdu, kdirstat there are many
[12:41] <psycose> ossie, remember to post the solution on the thread concerning the gcc version and eventually using  MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4" make-kpkg ... this will help others ;-)
[12:42] <crimsun_> varsendagger: gnome-system-[tab]
[12:43] <MarcN> I have two sets of ~300 scanned photos from a wedding (damn CVS screwed it up the first time) - the photos are close, but not identical and have totally different filenames.  Any tools to find the matching scans?  findimagedup only finds 4 matches and they are right.
[12:43] <ossie-fingsx> i certianly will, psycose
[12:43] <ossie-fingsx> bbi10mins, waiting for compliation to end
[12:45] <MoonRanger> is thier a fast way of installing KDE ...
[12:45] <viscount> anyone familiar with the `tar xGf archive.tar /some_folder` command? particularly the G part of it? does it make a full backup first time it runs?
[12:45] <MoonRanger> like with an apt-get command
[12:45] <misse^> MoonRanger sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:45] <misse^> I think :o
[12:45] <viscount> Moder, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:46] <viscount> whops
[12:46] <MoonRanger> is that to install or de-install kde
[12:46] <MoonRanger> thats what i used to install KDE
[12:46] <viscount> install
[12:46] <MoonRanger> is thier a similar command to un-install
[12:46] <misse^> I'm guessing sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop MoonRanger
[12:46] <viscount> MoonRanger, i dont think so
[12:47] <jax0m> void^, that worked
[12:47] <viscount> misse^, i dont think that will uninstall any of the kde desktop packages, just the one package named kubuntu-desktop
[12:47] <jax0m> thanks, honey
[12:47] <Seveas> MoonRanger, try debfoster
[12:48] <gnuyen> does anyone know where the ipw2200 firmware is in ubuntu 5.10?
[12:48] <misse^> viscount oh, yeah you're right
[12:48] <psycose> viscount have you read the man ?
[12:48] <misse^> maybe through synaptic?
[12:48] <viscount> psycose, yes, but sometimes its not very verbose
[12:48] <guest_> must go today!  2 alienware laptops price $500 for one, 750 for two. message me on aim at mikcomputing, msn at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or yahoo at mperkelay if interested and wanting to buy only!!
[12:49] <viscount> psycose, are you familiar with it?
[12:50] <jvai> hey uall. good evening
[12:50] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, here?
[12:50] <Hanzo__> huh?
[12:50] <viscount> kbrooks, are you following me :)
[12:50] <kbrooks> viscount, no
[12:52] <psycose> viscount, no sorry, hope google could help you ..
[12:52] <viscount> psycose, im pretty sure I got it, but just thought I'd ask someone with xp on the subj, better safe than sorry
[12:53] <AbdulSpiegel> okay, can someone help me get mpegs to play on like firefox and stuff
[12:53] <greg_> 5.04  help.   x starts ok the login screen comes up and accepts the ligin info. but gnome never starts.  all i get is a gray screen and a mouse curser ???
[12:53] <greg_> fresh default install   ^
[12:53] <stianh> Hey, does anyone know how to change the functions of multimediashortcuts on laptops in gnome? I have volume up/down/mute that I wanna map to PCM instead of Headphones
[12:53] <ga^vu> anybody help me please !!!
[12:54] <gandhii> anyone else have the problem of ubuntu install not being able to respond to keyboard at the first "language" menu screen in the install?
[12:54] <stianh> ga^vu, what's your problem?
[12:54] <ga^vu> anything i install...make -> command not found
[12:54] <stianh> hmm
[12:54] <stianh> you don't have make then
[12:54] <viscount> anyone familiar with the tar -G flag?
[12:54] <hypernewbie> doesnt make always come by default
[12:54] <ga^vu> probably
[12:54] <gandhii> or its not finding it
[12:54] <ga^vu> how do i install it
[12:54] <ga^vu> or...
[12:55] <hypernewbie> synaptic??
[12:55] <ga^vu> i'm new in linux
[12:55] <greg_> ga^vu install via the package manager...  but to compile you have to install 'build-essential"
[12:55] <AbdulSpiegel> can anyone help me to get .wmv and mpegs to work?
[12:55] <stianh> ga^vu, you have used synaptic? package manager?
[12:55] <ga^vu> k...2 sec
[12:55] <stianh> ga^vu, what greg_  said
[12:55] <greg_> now how the crap do i start gnome ?
[12:55] <mcjerry> i've been using xchat for several weeks now......is there a better program on ubuntu for irc use?
[12:55] <hypernewbie> well
[12:55] <hypernewbie> i dont have that package
[12:55] <hypernewbie> but i build fine
[12:55] <kemik> greg_:  "startx" or "gdm" i guess
[12:56] <greg_> kemik read the first post plese
[12:56] <hypernewbie> mcjerry, what better u expect?
[12:56] <psycose> viscount, isn't -g better than -G ? (http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/tar/tar_78.html)
[12:56] <kemik> greg_:  fresh install but gnome doesnt run ?
[12:56] <greg_> yep
[12:56] <kemik> greg_:  and startx/gdm does nada?
[12:56] <AbdulSpiegel> can anyone help me to get .wmv and mpegs to work?
[12:57] <kemik> greg_:  looked over your xorg.conf ?
[12:57] <kemik> no errors?
[12:57] <kemik> syslog ?
[12:57] <greg_> no startx gdm work just fine,  but no desktop
[12:57] <ga^vu> found it
[12:57] <mcjerry> hypernewbie: nothing in particular, just wanted to know opinions.......if better program than xchat
[12:57] <ga^vu> thank you
[12:57] <ga^vu> thanks a alot
[12:57] <greg_> kemik: Xorg is NOT the problem.   gnome wont start.
[12:58] <stianh> greg_, you don't get any messages?
[12:58] <greg_> nope
[12:58] <stianh> and what are you trying to do to stat gnome?
[12:58] <stianh> s/stat/start
[12:59] <Vejito> Hi'all :)
[12:59] <greg_> login at the gdm prompt and it accepts the login then goes gray and stayes there stianh
[12:59] <stianh> Hello
[12:59] <Vejito> Is this the place for an Wintel consultant to be "converted" to Ubuntu user?
[12:59] <hypernewbie> greg_, startx?
[12:59] <kemik> greg_:  ah ok.. that sounds really weird
[12:59] <stianh> greg_, aha. hmm, and it's the first time it is trying to start gnome?
[01:00] <greg_> hypernewbie: startx starts xorg  yes  but no desktop.
[01:00] <hypernewbie> wierd
[01:00] <greg_> stianh: yes
[01:00] <nevakee31> how do you play mpg, mpeg, avi files on linux???????????????????
[01:00] <cdubya> nevakee, mplayer
[01:00] <hypernewbie> nevakee31, apt-get gstreamer0.8-plugins
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> greg_: do you have gdm installed?
[01:00] <hypernewbie> nevakee31, apt-get gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[01:00] <nevakee31> ok thanks cdubya~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:01] <greg_> Kamping_Kaiser: yes
[01:01] <holycow> instead of startx restart gdm with /etc/init.d/gdm restart for any newbs that might be asking
[01:01] <stianh> nevakee31, enable universe in synaptic and add gstreamerplugins then use totem
[01:01] <hypernewbie> ir rhythmbox
[01:01] <cdubya> nevakee31, or do what hypernewbie and stianh said.........
[01:01] <cdubya> heh
[01:01] <nevakee31> great i will do just that!!!!!!!!!!! thanks stianh and cdubya!!!
[01:01] <nevakee31> and hypernewbie
[01:01] <stianh> hehe
[01:01] <nevakee31> :)
[01:01] <greg_> so anyone have any clue what might be up with this thing ?
[01:02] <kemik> greg_:  no, not really..  using breezy ?
[01:02] <stianh> greg_, sorry. the thing I would normally try if it was an old install gone busted was to just rm -rf all the .gnome and .gtk stuff
[01:02] <hypernewbie> or u can download the unsecure mpg123(like i did) and do a force install :)
[01:02] <greg_> hoary
[01:02] <kemik> greg_:  anyways, it could be network related
[01:03] <greg_> stianh: that could work cause the /home was not clean.
[01:03] <psycose> Vejito new to Ubuntu / GNU Linux ?
[01:03] <Vejito> Can someone help me find a solution for installing an old ISA SoundBlaster 16 card?
[01:03] <kemik> greg_:  googled it and a few hits has sort of the same symptoms when network is mucking-up
[01:03] <stianh> greg_, then you should try that
[01:03] <Vejito> New to Linux :)
[01:03] <Vejito> Hi Psycose
[01:03] <kemik> greg_:  btw, a special reason why you use hoary ?
[01:03] <stianh> greg_, that can easily become a problem when keeping your /home :P
[01:04] <greg_> kemik: have the cd and on dialup
[01:04] <psycose> Vejito, what is your system configuration ?
[01:04] <kemik> keeping /home never works flawlessly imo ... sort of like keeping the registry in windows between installs ;)
[01:04] <greg_> stianh: added a user with clean /home lets see
[01:04] <hypernewbie> greg_, ship it again to grab breezy, softmodems work for that too
[01:04] <stianh> ouch, dialup :) that's almost as bad as my moms 150/150kbps cable "broadband" :P
[01:04] <kemik> greg_:  ahh. dialup :/ thought they were extinct by now :)
[01:04] <Vejito> Before installing it on one of my "production" PC's I've installed it on an old PII 233 Mhz PC with 128MB RAM
[01:05] <greg_> kemik: there is no option here yet.
[01:05] <Sean> hi
[01:05] <hypernewbie> kemik, im on ubuntu dialup :P
[01:05] <kemik> yeah i figured that :)
[01:05] <batman> hello can someone help me figure out why my 32-bit 5.1 soundblaster pci card isn't working or if i need different drivers?
[01:05] <Stormx2> >.< Any CSS designers here?
[01:05] <Sean> Somone care to help me?
[01:05] <hypernewbie> batman, ubuntuforums.org
[01:05] <kemik> Stormx2:  not really..
[01:05] <Stormx2> Sean: Sure, what with?
[01:05] <kemik> Stormx2:  but shoot..
[01:06] <stianh> Sean, you'll need to let us in on your secret!
[01:06] <kemik> (only done a smaaaall project-webpage in css)
[01:06] <Sean> Ok I been a long time linux user. Switched from debian to ubuntu.
[01:06] <Sean> Using the new 5.1 Breezy
[01:06] <gandhii> anyone else have the problem of ubuntu install not being able to respond to keyboard at the first "language" menu screen in the install?
[01:06] <Sean> Well I am having glx issues
[01:06] <gandhii> or any ideas on why and how to fix it?
[01:06] <Sean> Giving me a Illegal instruction error
[01:06] <greg_> looks exactly the same for the new user.   login at gdm  [OK]   screen goes grey-brown  and has a mouse pointer....... that's it.....  nothing changes from that point......
[01:06] <gandhii> its an amd64 nf4 system
[01:07] <vir_> Stormx2,  i have done a bit of css in the past whats the matter
[01:07] <kemik> greg_:  try cleaning up your network-related stuff... firewall? (firewalls needed on dialup?)
[01:07] <greg_> kemik: fresh install.... no firewall
[01:07] <Vejito> Psycose > PII 233, 128MB RAM, S3 video card, Samsung DVD-Rom, Quantum Bigfoot, WD and Seagate HD,
[01:07] <psycose> Vejito, ?
[01:07] <stianh> greg_, hmm, then I would guess the network stuff would be the next way to go
[01:07] <Stormx2> vir_: >.< Kinda need a nice up to date layout for a site
[01:07] <cdubya> Stormx2, done some CSS.....
[01:08] <Vejito> Psycose> Do you want the installed kernel modules?
[01:08] <psycose> Vejito, are you able to recompile your kernel ?
[01:08] <greg_> stianh: kemik what in the network.... it is a single box with dialup ?
[01:08] <stianh> ah
[01:08] <stianh> hmm, what I've seen is gnome not working well due to a bad hostname
[01:08] <vir_> storm2 you seen alistapart.com?
[01:08] <Vejito> Psycose> Euh... There has to be a first for everything, not?
[01:08] <stianh> ie. bad localhost hostname, calling it hellobox.net or something
[01:09] <jaro> hi there. I'd like to ask you wheter it is possible to have more versions of the same "package-set" (group of (cross)dependent packages) installed in the same time. E.g. kde3.4 & kde3.5
[01:09] <stianh> but that usually brings up an errormesage
[01:09] <greg_> ok how to change it ?
[01:09] <hypernewbie> greg_, re-install?
[01:09] <stianh> "hostname newname"
[01:09] <void^> o_O
[01:09] <psycose> Vejito, well you could do $ lsmod | grep snd-sb16          to see if the needed driver is loaded but i don't think it will .... ;-)
[01:09] <Sean> Anyhow anyone know what is wrong with mine?
[01:09] <greg_> stianh: that wont last a reboot will it ?
[01:10] <Sean> That's one downer on ubuntu
[01:10] <Vejito> With root permissions?
[01:10] <Sean> No alsaconfig
[01:10] <Sean> =
[01:10] <Sean> =/
[01:10] <stianh> greg_, no don't think so, but just to check ;)
[01:10] <greg_> k
[01:10] <crimsun_> Sean: alsaconfig is unmaintained upstream, is bug-ridden, and has security issues.
[01:10] <stianh> you'll need to edit /etc/hosts as well
[01:10] <robbie_> hi
[01:10] <robbie_> can i have some help
[01:10] <crimsun_> It was removed from alsa-utils with just cause
[01:10] <robbie_> enabling SWAT for Samba
[01:10] <Sean> But still
[01:10] <kemik> greg_:  what's in your .xsession.errors ?
[01:10] <Sean> People with two sound cards
[01:10] <crimsun_> Sean: meaning alsaconf, of course.
[01:10] <Sean> like me
[01:10] <psycose> Vejito, what Ubuntu version  & Linux kernel version are you using (uname -r) ?
[01:10] <Sean> Even though I knew how to do it
[01:11] <Sean> I just blacklisted my one sound card
[01:11] <crimsun_> Sean: I have anywhere from 1-4 sound devices at any given point. alsaconf doesn't help with that.
[01:11] <Determinist> how can i play windows media player browser content with firefox under ubuntu? isnt there some totem plugin that does this?
[01:11] <robbie_> can i have some help enabling SWAT for Samba
[01:11] <Stormx2> vir_: Yeah i read ALA a lot
[01:11] <Craxy^away> im searching for a new computer since my old is a bit... old.. Anyway does somebody know why dell only offers computers with xp and no possibility to order without windows xp?
[01:11] <greg_> changed to localhost.localdomain    that should work right ?
[01:11] <Fixion> whenever I try to play an mp3 with mpg123 it says that no suitable libao driver is found, I have libao2 installed, why doesn't it work?
[01:11] <Sean> Anyways know what could be up with my glx issue?
[01:11] <Vejito> Psycose> 2.6.12-10-386
[01:11] <hypernewbie> Determinist, what?
[01:11] <SEJeff> Craxy^away: Because Microsoft gives them discounts to do that
[01:11] <hypernewbie> Determinist, u mean play .wma s?
[01:11] <robbie_> can i have some help enabling SWAT for Samba
[01:11] <TigerDuck> hmm .... I locked myself out because my password contains special characters and after upgrade from hoary to breezy the keymapping changed, I assume
[01:11] <crimsun_> Fixion: you need to change /etc/libao.conf to read: default_driver=alsa09
[01:12] <crimsun_> Sean: url to pastes?
[01:12] <Vejito> Psycose> When I launch the grep command, nothing happens
[01:12] <vir_> ok Stormx2  :)
[01:12] <jaro> Sean: I switched from debian and was as well scared that alsaconf was missing. I also have two cards and sound not working yet :-/
[01:12] <robbie_> i know i have to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:12] <Determinist> hypernewbie, no, i mean streaming content, you know, like the stuff on launch and the previews on amazon...
[01:12] <greg_> no help.....  crap.  looks like i redo the install.   that will cost extra.
[01:12] <robbie_> well
[01:12] <hypernewbie> Determinist, then thats beyond my knowledge :(
[01:12] <psycose> Vejito, ok so the driver is not loaded ....
[01:12] <crimsun_> jaro: multiple cards isn't a problem. What two cards?
[01:12] <robbie_> i guess no one wants to help
[01:12] <Fixion> crimsun_: I get an alsa write error now
[01:12] <Determinist> hypernewbie, :)
[01:13] <Sean> crimsun_ my issue is when I did a clean install with 5.1 Breezy. I am getting an illegal instruction error with glx
[01:13] <Determinist> hypernewbie, thanks anyways
[01:13] <Sean> Never did that with 5.04
[01:13] <Stormx2> vir_: i read it, but i'm not a very creative person when it comes to layouts >.<
[01:13] <kemik> greg_:  try look inside .xsession.errors
[01:13] <robbie_> CAN I HAVE SOME HELP ENABLING SWAT FOR SAMBA?
[01:13] <Vejito> Psycose> I had about the same idea :) But I don't know how to add drivers in Linux ;)
[01:13] <crimsun_> Sean: which graphics chipset?
[01:13] <Sean> Ah the old i810
[01:13] <crimsun_> robbie_: yelling doesn't get you assistance any faster.
[01:13] <Sean> I'm too poor to get an nvidia
[01:13] <Sean> or ati
[01:13] <jaro> crimsun_: it's not very easy to find out how I can find switch active soundcard.
[01:13] <ossie-fingsx> psycose what ssh deamon do you reccommend ??? please
[01:14] <vir_> Stormx2,  why not do a retro look.... like old 80s computer games?
[01:14] <crimsun_> jaro: are you using GNOME?
[01:14] <Sean> I was checking the forums and others are having issues with it
[01:14] <jaro> crimsun_: no
[01:14] <jaro> crimsun_: running kde
[01:14] <vir_> what sort of market you trying torget?
[01:14] <hypernewbie> Sean, what prob u having again?
[01:14] <greg_> that file is only 4 linse long and ends with "SESSION_MANAGER=local/localhost.localdomain:/tmp/.ICE-unix/7293"
[01:14] <crimsun_> jaro: man set-default-soundcard
[01:14] <Sean> issue is when I did a clean install with 5.1 Breezy. I am getting an illegal instruction error with glx
[01:14] <greg_> no error messages in it
[01:14] <jaro> crimsun_: I know that by now.
[01:15] <greg_> kemik:  ^
[01:15] <jaro> crimsun_: But it was tough to dig this out :)
[01:15] <kemik> greg_:  yeah.. noticed
[01:15] <hypernewbie> hmm
[01:15] <robbie_> so
[01:15] <robbie_> what do i do
[01:15] <psycose> ossie-fingsx, the classic one, but for ftp i recommend you http://vsftpd.beasts.org/
[01:15] <crimsun_> jaro: that's because KDE hasn't hooked into it yet, unlike GNOME.
[01:15] <eskan> ./server irc.knts.org
[01:15] <hypernewbie> nope dunno
[01:15] <eskan> ./server irc.knts.org
[01:15] <Vejito> PSycose> Isn't there some kind of hardware detect tool?
[01:15] <robbie_> to get SWAT for Samba working in ubuntu?????
[01:15] <greg_> kemik: X is not giving any trubble as far as i can tell
[01:15] <void^> Vejito: sb16 come in different flavours. i got a jumperless but non-pnp sb16. may require several module options.
[01:15] <ossie-fingsx> cheers psycose
[01:15] <robbie_> can i have some help enabling SWAT for Samba
[01:15] <void^> Vejito: very difficult to detect non-pnp isa cards
[01:15] <crimsun_> Sean: post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:15] <psycose> guys what is the official wiki page for recompiling the kernel on ubuntu breezy thanks
[01:16] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i change the login screen
[01:16] <jaro> crimsun_: strange is that cd playing works but no other sounds come out. Problems with aRts? alsa? alsamixer seems to work with volume levels without problems. Still my computer stands still :-/
[01:16] <robbie_> can i have some help enabling SWAT for Samba
[01:16] <Vejito> Void> Is that the "big whopper" card? In that case, I have the same
[01:16] <Sean> k
[01:16] <robbie_> can i have some help enabling SWAT for Samba
[01:16] <nickrud> robbie_, I haven't used swat for a long time, but if I remember, there's a file (/etc/swat or so) that you can edit to allow named users access to swat
[01:16] <jaro> crimsun_: What the hell?
[01:16] <hypernewbie> the_mr_bong_show, system>administration>login screen setup
[01:16] <mrkoje> robbie_,  whats your problem with swat
[01:16] <jaro> crimsun_: It is issue of alsa, isn't it?
[01:16] <psycose> ossie-fingsx, see u
[01:16] <void^> Vejito: eh. it reads "sb16 value" ;)
[01:16] <the_mr_bong_show> ty
[01:17] <hypernewbie> the_mr_bong_show , or gksudo gdmsetup
[01:17] <ossie-fingsx> cheers merry xmas
[01:17] <crimsun_> jaro: no, it's not.
[01:17] <robbie_> mrkoje:i just need to enable it
[01:17] <jaro> crimsun_: If alsa works with soundcard correctly aRts should do that as well.
[01:17] <kemik> greg_:  well.. it's a weird error and not much to go by :/
[01:17] <void^> Vejito: use `find /lib/modules -iname "sb"` to find available modules.. i don't remember the exact name
[01:17] <Vejito> Void: I meant the size :) Mine is a full SoundBlaster 16
[01:17] <cafuego> Vejito: The big whopper is the AWE64 (I got one, with original manual & everything)
[01:17] <ossie-fingsx> thanx for yoru help psycose
[01:17] <jaro> crimsun_: so what can help? Changing audio device manually?
[01:17] <mrkoje> robbie_,  so you have already installed it?
[01:17] <kemik> greg_: cant say that i'm of much help
[01:17] <void^> Vejito: load a module with modprobe <name>, name without .ko
[01:17] <psycose> Vejito well i would suggest you to recompile your kernel and add the Sound Blaster 16 (PnP) isa driver for ALSA ...
[01:17] <Sean> I was checking
[01:17] <greg_> installing twm  i'll try that. if it flys i'll remove ub-desk and try again.   thanks for your time tho kemik & stianh
[01:17] <robbie_> yes i have already installed
[01:17] <crimsun_> jaro: is your cd player app configured to use analog or digital extraction?
[01:17] <robbie_> the latest samba
[01:17] <cafuego> Weighs in at 3 lbs ;-)
[01:17] <Sean> I am having no issues in my xorg log
[01:17] <void^> Vejito: use modinfo <name> to get info about available options
[01:18] <jaro> crimsun_: of course it's the analog way :)
[01:18] <cafuego> The sb16 would like irq, dma and io options.
[01:18] <void^> Vejito: i had to use something like isapnp=0 and give irq/io/dma settings
[01:18] <stianh> greg_, no worries
[01:18] <jaro> crimsun_: this is the reason it works I suppose.
[01:18] <crimsun_> jaro: so aplay doesn't give you anything at all?
[01:18] <jaro> But then I'm curious what coudl be the problem.
[01:18] <mrkoje> robbie_,  make sure its running:     chkconfig --list | swat
[01:19] <psycose> Vejito, i'm looking for the good howto to propose you ....
[01:19] <Vejito> /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/isa/sb
[01:19] <Vejito> /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound/isa/sb
[01:19] <robbie_> ok
[01:19] <cafuego> mrkoje: What's that ugly redhat command doing on #ubuntu?
[01:19] <nickrud> lol
[01:19] <mrkoje> robbie_,  wait chkconfig isnt on ubuntu sorry
[01:19] <TigerDuck> how many "roots" are there on a standard ubuntu box?
[01:19] <mrkoje> cafuego,  sorry lol
[01:19] <robbie_> ya
[01:19] <jaro> crimsun_: apparently it does ;)
[01:19] <robbie_> i was getting error
[01:19] <mrkoje> cafuego,  I use both.... :(
[01:19] <Vejito> Psycose> Thanks ;)
[01:19] <cafuego> mrkoje: grep swat /etc/inetd.conf  (it doesn't run as a service)
[01:19] <psycose> void^, it's called  snd-sb16
[01:19] <robbie_> how do we do a private chat?
[01:20] <jaro> crimsun_: it seems that problem is close to resolution and I haven't noticed.
[01:20] <void^> psycose: looks like he doesn't have it then?
[01:20] <crimsun_> jaro: cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:20] <psycose> void^, yes i'm looking for the up to date kernel compile wiki howto ...
[01:20] <robbie_> mrkoje
[01:20] <cafuego> psycose: make-kpkg --revision=hostname.X --initrd kernel-image
[01:21] <ub2> .m3u and .ram files aren't working.  tried installing mplayer from source and get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5  (but have libstdc++.so.6 in /usr/lib)
[01:21] <cafuego> you may beed a 'fakeroot' in there too
[01:21] <the_mr_bong_show> is there a such thing as a moving wallpaper
[01:21] <cafuego> Install mplayer from package and add the correct codecs, problem solved.
[01:21] <jaro> crimsun_: I've disabled the build-in soundcard so the problem with two s.cards is over.
[01:21] <TigerDuck> How come that doing a "su -" in a shell accepts my root password, but trying to start "Users and Groups" declines the exact same password?
[01:21] <viscount> the_mr_bong_show, you can set your screensaver as your wallpaper, does that count? :)
[01:21] <jaro> crimsun_: alsa works. (I haven't noticed though :))
[01:21] <ub2> cafuego: new linux user   are you talking about apt-get ?
[01:22] <cafuego> TigerDuck: Coz that use 'sudo' and not 'su' and as such wants your USER password.
[01:22] <psycose> cafuego, well it's for Vejito i'd prefer finding the howto thanks ;-)
[01:22] <cafuego> ub2: Indeed.
[01:22] <TigerDuck> cafuego: I see
[01:22] <cafuego> ub2: Installing from source is virtually never a good idea (especially for new users)
[01:22] <the_mr_bong_show> i just want my wallpaper to move like a flame to wave that sorta thing
[01:22] <cafuego> the_mr_bong_show: have another bong and wait 5 minutes... then check.
[01:23] <the_mr_bong_show> lol i dont smoke
[01:23] <ub2> cafuego:  I tried apt-get after uncommenting universe repositiories in /etc/apt/source.files    but get nothing for mplayer when doing  apt-get install mplayer  (also nothing for search)
[01:23] <cafuego> You'll need 'multiverse' then :-)
[01:23] <cafuego> !info mplayer
[01:23] <djk_> how do i get all files from a site with wget?
[01:23] <cafuego> !info mplayer-k7
[01:23] <ubotu> mplayer-k7: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[01:24] <cafuego> Yeah
[01:24] <viscount> the_mr_bong_show, http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/hacks.html?id=44
[01:24] <dbernar1> Does anyone use mutella? It does not seem to find any files here.
[01:24] <holycow> sanyone here have experience with parted?  does the target drive haveto have exactly the same number of sectors as the original drive from where the image was created?
[01:24] <the_mr_bong_show> ty
[01:24] <TigerDuck> cafuego: ubuntu seems to have difficulties handling special characters as passwords
[01:25] <cafuego> TigerDuck: ctrl-F isn't a safe password.
[01:25] <TigerDuck> cafuego: what about $%&() ?
[01:25] <cafuego> TigerDuck: it probably depends on what you're using to input the password; in theory the libs are all 8bit safe, but in practice they may not be.
[01:26] <dbernar1> You know, rms at one point did not like passwords.
[01:26] <cafuego> TigerDuck: Better off sticking with 7bit ascii.
[01:26] <hypernewbie> cafuego , lol
[01:26] <TigerDuck> cafuego: I figured 8o)
[01:26] <Alchemist_> why do we need passwords ?
[01:26] <dbernar1> Alchemist_: so you dont erase my hard drive over the net.
[01:26] <the_mr_bong_show> whats the gconf-editor
[01:26] <TigerDuck> Alchemist_: because I don't want anyone from the Internet configuring my ubuntu box
[01:26] <Alchemist_> hasnt biometrics come far enough yet ?
[01:27] <hypernewbie> dbernar1 and how the hell u do that
[01:27] <dbernar1> the_mr_bong_show: Apps>Sys Tools> COnfig Editor.
[01:27] <cafuego> the_mr_bong_show: the Gnome equivalent of the registry editor.
[01:27] <cafuego> Alchemist_: nope
[01:27] <linlin> how do i mount my ntfs drive/partition in ubuntu?
[01:27] <Alchemist_> or my bluetooth cellphone knows im near my pc ?
[01:27] <dbernar1> I need to go, later.
[01:27] <nickrud> the_mr_bong_show, it allows you to change all the available properties of your particular desktop; it is not a registry equivalent
[01:27] <hypernewbie> linlin, ubuntuguide.org
[01:28] <sureshot> how can i install a rpm in ubuntu gnome
[01:28] <Alchemist_> find it odd the number of passwords you need to hardcode into config.php's ---- why bother?
[01:28] <cafuego> nickrud: it so is.
[01:28] <the_mr_bong_show> if i have my screensaver as my wallpaper that wont mess any thing up right
[01:28] <nickrud> hardware changes?
[01:28] <Vejito> Cafuego> For what I can find, it's more a multiple choice thing... :)
[01:28] <hypernewbie> linlin, sudo mount /dev/hda2 /folderpath -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[01:29] <Vejito> Cafuego> I don't seem to find any consistent DMA, IRQ and IO settings (wow this goes waaaay back to the DOS ages...)
[01:29] <psycose> Vejito, ok https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto is a good start point
[01:29] <Sean> Hey guys
[01:29] <Sean> good news
[01:29] <Sean> I fixed it
[01:29] <Eleaf> you guys, I need your help..
[01:29] <Sean> :D
[01:29] <Eleaf> i need hellpp
[01:29] <Eleaf> helllllllllllllllpppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[01:29] <Eleaf> lol
[01:29] <Vejito> Psycose> On my way ;)
[01:29] <Eleaf> elllpppp
[01:29] <hypernewbie> Eleaf <- furustratedubuntu ser
[01:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> Eleaf: realy?
[01:29] <cafuego> Vejito: Correct, you get to pick from sets of configs.  Check the warranty.
[01:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> Eleaf: "died"?
[01:30] <Eleaf> Whenever it is loading
[01:30] <Eleaf> restarting
[01:31] <cafuego> Vejito: pretty sure, yes.
[01:31] <rikai> kernel panic?
[01:31] <Eleaf> once it gets to loading modules, it says a module is missing
[01:31] <the_mr_bong_show> why is it when some of my screen savers are on they run slow
[01:31] <Eleaf> in the kernel
[01:31] <Eleaf> and it stops after that
[01:31] <cafuego> WHich module
[01:31] <Eleaf> do you want me to boot it up?
[01:31] <MrProper_> Eleaf, and which module might that be
[01:31] <Eleaf> here hold on a sec
[01:31] <cafuego> Also, from what to what did you dist-upgrade?
[01:31] <MrProper_> Eleaf, no i want you to throw your mac in the bin
[01:31] <Eleaf> MrProper_, no
[01:31] <MoonRanger> how do you get the trash icon back on the lower panel
[01:32] <cafuego> MoonRanger: right click, add to panel
[01:32] <punkrockguy318> how can i configure thunderbird to receive and send local mail/?
[01:32] <nickrud> MoonRanger, right click the panel, add the wastebasket
[01:32] <ub2> cafuego: I get two files returned when I do an apt-cache search mplayer and neither matches what you showed..  do I have to manually add other repositories besides what was in the /etc/apt/source.files  ?
[01:32] <nickrud> slooowww
[01:32] <user_> hellp
[01:32] <user_> hello
[01:32] <Vejito> Psycose> What are the risks involved in recompiling a kernel?
[01:32] <cafuego> ub2: Yes, you have to enable the 'multiverse' repository.
[01:32] <nickrud> !ask
[01:33] <ub2> I'll google it
[01:33] <ub2> tks
[01:33] <psycose> Vejito, When you will be at the step "Configuring the kernel" with make menuconfig , navigate thrue the menus to select your driver :     Device Drivers  ---> Sound  --->   Advanced Linux Sound Architecture  --->    ISA devices  --->  [ ]    Sound Blaster 16 (PnP)    (select this entry as a module)
[01:33] <cafuego> ub2: When that's done, also check wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and grab the details for the 'w32codecs' package.
[01:33] <rikai> MrProper_, there's no need to be rude, jus because (s)he doesnt follow the completly proper way of doing things. ;)
[01:33] <ub2> tls
[01:33] <ub2> tks
[01:33] <the_mr_bong_show> why is it when some of my screen savers are on they run slow
[01:33] <robbie_> how do i restart inetd?
[01:33] <cafuego> !tell ub2 -about repos
[01:33] <cafuego> robbie_: sudo killall -1 inetd
[01:33] <user_> root@host:/
[01:33] <Eleaf> the_mr_bong_show, if it is a 3d screensave, you might not have direct rendering running
[01:33] <user_> the char @ and h are overlapped
[01:33] <rikai> the_mr_bong_show, they're probably the opengl ones, and you havent enabled direct rendering.
[01:33] <user_> in the command line
[01:34] <Eleaf> cafuego, by the way, I figured out the nfs problem
[01:34] <the_mr_bong_show> my video dont sopot opengl
[01:34] <psycose> Vejito, well no risk because if you fail somewhere you will be able to boot on another kernel and continue your kernel hacking ;-)
[01:34] <cafuego> the_mr_bong_show: then it's always going to be horribly slow
[01:34] <Vejito> i'm gonna do a copy/paste of this conversation for reference ;)
[01:34] <Eleaf> the_mr_bong_show, type glxinfo | grep "render" at the terminal
[01:34] <rikai> the_mr_bong_show, then dont sue opengl screensavers.
[01:35] <Phocion> hey does Ubuntu not come with things like GCC by default?
[01:35] <the_mr_bong_show> well i got an opengl card but i dont know how to instal drivers on ubuntu yet
[01:35] <rikai> the_mr_bong_show, what grahics card do you have?
[01:35] <Eleaf> MrProper_, cafuego, it's doing the hard drive check, hold on, after that I'll show the modules it's having trouble with
[01:35] <nickrud> Phocion, correct
[01:35] <Phocion> or did I just miss an installation option??
[01:35] <Phocion> geeze why??
[01:35] <rikai> the_mr_bong_show, nvidia or ati?
[01:35] <Vejito> Cafuego> Is this the right command? -->  modprobe sb dma16:5 dma:1 irq:5 io:0x220
[01:35] <the_mr_bong_show> nvidia isnt in stalled
[01:35] <nickrud> the concept is, if you need that, you'll install it: most users don't need to compile
[01:36] <the_mr_bong_show> but the one i have runing is on the motherbord
[01:36] <nickrud> Phocion, apt-get install build-essential gets make, gcc, a few other things
[01:36] <ossie> hey , is psycose still here?
[01:36] <Pupeno> does anybody know the name of the channel about audio on linux ?
[01:36] <rikai> !tell the_mr_bong_show about binary drivers
[01:36] <psycose> ossie, may be
[01:36] <Phocion> yea i need to familiarize myself with APT
[01:36] <rikai> !tell the_mr_bong_show about binarydrivers
[01:36] <rikai> bah.
[01:36] <Phocion> I was used to SuSE's YaST
[01:37] <ossie> hows it going, just installed new kernel did reboot,
[01:37] <rikai> the_mr_bong_show, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:37] <nickrud> *plug* aptitude, Phocion
[01:37] <ossie> how the heck  do i find my drives ?? :)
[01:37] <Phocion> yea i know
[01:37] <the_mr_bong_show> ok
[01:37] <Phocion> just got ubuntu installed on my laptop
[01:38] <psycose> ossie, sorry i don't think i can help you for this good luck
[01:38] <rikai> Pupeno, what about audio exactly?
[01:38] <nickrud> Phocion, that, and apt-cache search will help you find the stuff you need.
[01:38] <Psoriasis> I have a question.   How does a developer get his project considered for inclusion in the Ubuntu distro?
[01:38] <ossie> ok cheers :), it was succsefull , but i cant see nay signs of my drives , cheers psycose
[01:39] <Alchemist_> whats the project?
[01:39] <Pupeno> rikai: do you know more than one ? I was refering to #lad (I've found it by the way).
[01:39] <eXiTuS> hi
[01:39] <Phocion> nickrud: ok cool man thanks.  ill check that out.
[01:39] <Phocion> see ya
[01:39] <Psoriasis> Alchemist_: www.freshmeat.net/projects/idjc
[01:39] <nickrud> Psoriasis, talk to the people on #motu for that
[01:39] <Psoriasis> Is motu an acronym for something?
[01:39] <Alchemist_> done any live dj with it ?
[01:39] <ossie> I found them in the disks manager
[01:39] <Psoriasis> Yes
[01:39] <Pupeno> Psoriasis: masters of the univerese, afaik.
[01:40] <nickrud> masters of the universe , the guys that decide what's in the extra repos
[01:40] <Psoriasis> hmmm
[01:40] <Psoriasis> k thanks.
[01:40] <dotsony> i've got a machine with a dead installation of debian sarge, i use it for mythtv
[01:40] <eXiTuS> ulen ne oli
[01:40] <linlin> how good is ubuntu with working with external usb hard drives?
[01:40] <dotsony> i've got three partitions on the root drive
[01:40] <rikai> Psoriasis, #ubuntu-motu might be able to help.
[01:40] <dotsony> or actually pry more like 5 or six
[01:40] <soundray> linlin, works fine here.
[01:40] <nickrud> Psoriasis, that might be ... thanks rikai
[01:40] <Psoriasis> cheers
[01:40] <linlin> great
[01:41] <Alchemist_> linlin: I boot an ubuntu off a usb
[01:41] <linlin> does it work pug and play the same as windows?
[01:41] <dotsony> i want to replace debian with ubuntu but i don't want to clobber /home where i keep a bunch of media
[01:41] <linlin> plug*
[01:41] <cliff> edaf
[01:41] <eXiTuS> orospu cocuklari
[01:41] <eXiTuS> how are you ?
[01:41] <cliff> is there a spanish speakers chat room ???
[01:41] <Alchemist_> ci ci
[01:41] <dotsony> so my questoin is will the ubuntu installer give me a choice about formatting partitions if  i use the manual partitioning mode
[01:41] <nickrud> !es
[01:41] <cafuego> !es
[01:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:42] <Eleaf> ubuntu-es
[01:42] <cliff> where is it ?
[01:42] <Eleaf>   /join #ubuntu-es
[01:42] <the_mr_bong_show> whats the sessions preferences
[01:42] <nickrud> cliff, see ubotu above
[01:42] <cliff> yeah
[01:43] <the_mr_bong_show> or wheres the sessions preferences
[01:43] <soundray> linlin, it works plug and play, but disk names and things like that are very different in Linux.
[01:43] <pashaw> dotsony,  yes
[01:43] <linlin> oh yeah i know
[01:43] <eXiTuS> YOU DEAD FUCK! )=>> #sexfuck
[01:43] <eXiTuS> YOU DEAD FUCK! )=>> #sexfuck
[01:43] <eXiTuS> YOU DEAD FUCK! )=>> #sexfuck
[01:43] <eXiTuS> YOU DEAD FUCK! )=>> #sexfuck
[01:43] <eXiTuS> YOU DEAD FUCK! )=>> #sexfuck
[01:43] <eXiTuS> YOU DEAD FUCK! )=>> #sexfuck
[01:43] <eXiTuS> YOU DEAD FUCK! )=>> #sexfuck
[01:43] <MickMcMack> O_o;
[01:43] <Alchemist_> bye bye
[01:43] <eXiTuS> x
[01:43] <linlin> lame ass
[01:43] <rikai> the_mr_bong_show, system > preferences > session
[01:43] <Eleaf> cafuego, MrProper_ It found some errors in the hard drive, hopefully fsck'ing (lol) them will help the problem....
[01:43] <soundray> linlin, don't sink to the same level.
[01:43] <Eleaf> hmm
[01:44] <the_mr_bong_show> ty
[01:44] <holycow> anyone have experience with partimage? i'm curious if anyone has tips for restoring an image to a larger drive.  the basic steps here have been: 1. repartition larger target drive 2. restor partition info 3. restore image with partimage however the drives remain unbootable.  i'm just wondering if there are others with experience with such a meneuver
[01:44] <punkrockguy318> how can i send a local mail in ubuntu?
[01:44] <punkrockguy318> using the command line
[01:44] <linlin> hes sitting in the room all by himself :p
[01:44] <rikai> well, eXiTuS is still here? taking quite a time to get kick banned...
[01:44] <soundray> linlin, by default, Ubuntu is configured to make partitions on a USB disk appear on the desktop after plugging.
[01:44] <dotsony> pashaw: sweet
[01:44] <linlin> oh thats awesome
[01:45] <alberto> prova
[01:45] <soundray> linlin, do you think so? I turned it off first thing :)
[01:45] <cdubya> punkrockguy318, mail
[01:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> hey all, quick question I have never tried before. Can you remount / after a change to /etc/fstab without rebooting?
[01:45] <punkrockguy318> cdubya, mail: command not found
[01:45] <holycow> linlin, indeedy it is, it automounts all sorts of stuff, super easy
[01:45] <cdubya> heh
[01:45] <psycose> dotsony, as application configuration file content  may be different... pay attention to this aspect ...
[01:45] <rikai> thanks crimsun_ o/
[01:45] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, I think you can.
[01:45] <user_> the char @ and h are overlapped
[01:45] <user_> user@host:~$
[01:45] <rikai> The_Isle_of_Mark, yep, you can i believe.
[01:46] <MrProper_> The_Isle_of_Mark, google mount remount
[01:46] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, the procedure is not that different from chroot'ing.
[01:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> MrProper_, thanks lol
[01:46] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, but it's been ages since I did an experiment like that.
[01:46] <user_> and ~ is substituted whid ''
[01:46] <rikai> The_Isle_of_Mark, 'sudo mount -a' i believe.
[01:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray, live server...dont want to bring it down...and definately dont want to wreck it :)
[01:46] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, tough decision.
[01:47] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray, yeah fo sho
[01:47] <rikai> oh, envermind, misundertood the question.
[01:47] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, can you not experiment with a redundant machine first?
[01:47] <rikai> *nevermind
[01:47] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray, dont have any with the OS loaded
[01:48] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray, would be a good idea except I have a runaway process filling up the drive slowly
[01:48] <pauli> hola
[01:48] <pauli> hay alguien?
[01:48] <cliff> yo
[01:48] <MrProper_> The_Isle_of_Mark, type mount -o remount,rw /
[01:48] <pauli> quien yo
[01:48] <cliff> el resto son ingleses....
[01:49] <cliff> creo
[01:49] <pauli> queeeee?
[01:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> MrProper_, found some info thanks
[01:49] <pauli> di tu nombre
[01:49] <cliff> pos eso....
[01:49] <cliff> Clifford
[01:49] <cliff> tu ?
[01:49] <MrProper_> The_Isle_of_Mark, google? =)
[01:49] <pauli> paulina
[01:49] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, hope you can fix it.
[01:49] <cliff> rubio ?
[01:49] <cliff> xDD
[01:49] <pauli> de que pais eres?
[01:50] <servoeL> sup!
[01:50] <Eleaf> MrProper_, how are you feeling?
[01:50] <cliff> en teroia de espana... pero estoy en inglaterra por estudios....
[01:50] <servoeL> I got ubuntu (finally) connected to Wifi, and then irc (different comand formatting)
[01:50] <pauli> cuantos aos tienes
[01:50] <soundray> pauli, cliff, do you know where you are here?
[01:50] <MrProper_> Eleaf, short shrivelled and a little to the left
[01:50] <cliff> i do know
[01:51] <pauli> hablo  con cliff
[01:51] <cliff> but i cant get to the spanish site
[01:51] <cdubya> heh
[01:51] <cliff> 16
[01:51] <cdubya> man, my spanish is rusty.
[01:51] <cdubya> heh
[01:51] <pauli> habla en espaol
[01:51] <cliff> dice que su espanol es malo
[01:51] <cliff> o algo asi
[01:51] <pauli> no
[01:51] <cliff> i tu d dnd ers ??
[01:52] <soundray> cliff, all you need to do is enter /join #ubuntu-es
[01:52] <pauli> cuantos as tienes
[01:52] <spallen> ...
[01:52] <pauli> hola
[01:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> WHEW! ok so remount --help
[01:52] <cliff> ya te lo e dixo
[01:52] <cliff> 16
[01:52] <cliff> tu ?
[01:52] <pauli> yo 9
[01:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> that got me the info I needed
[01:52] <Evil_Whisper> hey guys
[01:53] <Eleaf> cafuego, MrProper_ I'm rebooting after the repairs, Wish me luck that it works!! = S
[01:53] <pauli> adios
[01:53] <picasso> hey guys. im trying to remove evolution from my system, but apt-get remove wants to remove ubuntu-desktop as well?
[01:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> was sweating there for a minute or two
[01:53] <picasso> this can't be right?
[01:53] <cliff> i tried... but it says it cant find it or something like that
[01:53] <pauli> te veo maana
[01:53] <Evil_Whisper> you can remove it anyway picasso
[01:53] <Evil_Whisper> it wont hurt anything
[01:53] <Evil_Whisper> ubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[01:53] <cliff> a2
[01:53] <picasso> ah, just that it includes evolution?
[01:53] <Evil_Whisper> yep
[01:53] <nickrud> picasso, no big deal, really. ubuntu-desktop is a list of packages, not the desktop itself
[01:53] <picasso> k
[01:53] <picasso> just making sure :)
[01:53] <TigerDuck> thanks for the help ... good night everybody
[01:54] <Evil_Whisper> wow xchat-gnome is so much nicer then xchat regular :p
[01:54] <nickrud> picasso, when you upgrade to dapper, that might be an issue. If the package list changes ....
[01:54] <pauli> cliff
[01:54] <ricardo20> hi
[01:54] <picasso> hmm
[01:54] <picasso>
[01:54] <dailyrorschach> any one in here running 5.10 with a dell latitude
[01:54] <Evil_Whisper> I always do a fresh install when upgrading versions
[01:54] <pauli> donde esta cliff
[01:54] <soundray> !anyone
[01:54] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[01:54] <rikai> #ubuntupeople/j
[01:54] <rikai> ack
[01:54] <nickrud> picasso, doesn't hurt to leave evolution around :)
[01:54] <rikai> sorry o/
[01:55] <ricardo20> hi how are every peolple
[01:55] <pauli> hola
[01:55] <ricardo20> wats hapend
[01:55] <rikai> dunno how that happend o.O
[01:55] <Evil_Whisper> just when you install all you have to do is make sure that your home directory is on a seperate partition :-)
[01:55] <dailyrorschach> ubotu: because my question regards the actual system not a specific problem, I had issues with ubuntu 5.04 and was trying to see if they had been resolved
[01:55] <ubotu> dailyrorschach: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[01:55] <pauli> habla en espaol
[01:55] <ricardo20> hola puli
[01:55] <nickrud> !myself
[01:55] <ubotu> nickrud: I don't know
[01:55] <Alchemist_> dailyrorschach - what is the problem?
[01:55] <pauli> hola
[01:55] <dailyrorschach> the problem I had with my dell laptop in 5.04 was terrible sound support
[01:55] <ricardo20> holaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:56] <ricardo20> de donde eres pauli???
[01:56] <pauli> cuantos aos tenes
[01:56] <dailyrorschach> and that's why I abandoned ubuntu, I'm an audiophile, I cant live without music
[01:56] <soundray> !you
[01:56] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[01:56] <ricardo20> 20 y tu???
[01:56] <pauli> chile
[01:56] <Evil_Whisper> Try Breezy Badger I think the sound has improved greatly since Hoary
[01:56] <defiance`> Heh! This is quite nice. Triple-screens :D
[01:56] <ricardo20> yo tambien soy de chile
[01:56] <niffe> how i can format cdrw disc in ubuntu?
[01:56] <ricardo20> soy de maipu-stgo
[01:56] <Eleaf> cafuego, ??
[01:56] <picasso> soy de california!
[01:56] <Alchemist_> dailyrorsahach - what sound hardware ess?
[01:56] <pauli> en que parte
[01:56] <ricardo20> maipu
[01:56] <Eleaf> It keeps freezing at "Calculating module dependencies"
[01:56] <Eleaf> helpp
[01:56] <pauli> providencia
[01:56] <picasso> eleaf: turn up the heater?
[01:57] <picasso> bahahadhashdasdhfa
[01:57] <defiance`> How about talking english? :-P
[01:57] <Eleaf> ?..
[01:57] <ricardo20> que edad tienes???
[01:57] <Evil_Whisper> be right back guys
[01:57] <pauli> cuantos aos tienes
[01:57] <dailyrorschach> alchemist_: I haven't used it since summer, but I believe it was ess
[01:57] <ubuntu> hello
[01:57] <Eleaf> picasso, What do I do in a situation like this?
[01:57] <crimsun_> pauli: #ubuntu-es
[01:57] <picasso> make sure your media is intact
[01:57] <pashaw> this the spanish dating channel?  buot time i found it
[01:57] <pauli> yo 9
[01:57] <Eleaf> every time this has happend and I don't want to do this again..
[01:57] <ubuntu> I am in sesperate need of help in getting my filesystem online
[01:57] <Eleaf> i have to reinstall
[01:57] <ubuntu> I am booted from the live cd
[01:57] <ubuntu> will anyone help
[01:57] <soundray> ricardo20, pauli, picasso, cliff: your conversation is both off-topic and in the wrong language for this channel.
[01:58] <ricardo20> pauli tienes 9?????????
[01:58] <pauli> que
[01:58] <pauli> si
[01:58] <Evil_Whisper> back
[01:58] <pauli> y tu
[01:58] <steve_laptop> ? were is the sound modules.d file at? to manually edit it?
[01:58] <ubuntu> How can I run a fsck on my system?
[01:58] <ricardo20> pauli tienes msn????
[01:58] <nickrud> ubuntu, mount -t ext3 /dev/<dev> /mnt (for an ubuntu system)
[01:58] <pauli> si
[01:58] <picasso> soundray: uw moeder is een grasmaaier
[01:58] <Eleaf> MrProper_, ?
[01:58] <ricardo20> damelo te agrego y asi hablamos mas tranquilos
[01:59] <Evil_Whisper> try using man fsck
[01:59] <ricardo20> te prece???
[01:59] <Eleaf> It keeps freezing at Calculating module dependencies...
[01:59] <Evil_Whisper> :-P
[01:59] <ubuntu> so mount -t reiserfs /dev/md0 /mnt ?
[01:59] <Eleaf> ahhhhhhhhh
[01:59] <pauli><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:59] <pauli> chao
[01:59] <Eleaf> ahh
[01:59] <pauli> cuantos aos tenes?
[01:59] <nickrud> ubuntu, well, I can't say a word about raid stuff (I think that's what that is, right :)
[01:59] <cartesian1984> how do i install something from a .deb file?
[02:00] <Eleaf> cartesian1984, sudo dpkg -i packagename
[02:00] <ubuntu> yeah, after i mount it like that i can run a fsck?
[02:00] <Kyral> sudo dpkg -i <path/to/file>
[02:00] <nickrud> ubuntu, no, fsck on unmounted drives
[02:00] <MickMcMack> sudo dpkg -i pathto/blah.deb
[02:00] <cartesian1984> Ah, thank you
[02:00] <Eleaf> It keeps freezing at Calculating module dependencies
[02:00] <Eleaf> ahhhhhhh
[02:00] <ricardo20> ahi te agrege
[02:00] <pauli> chao
[02:00] <Eleaf> HELLP
[02:00] <Eleaf> '
[02:00] <pauli> cuantos aos tienes
[02:01] <ricardo20> 20
[02:01] <ubuntu> i'm confused :( sorry, here is the situation: My font dir got messed up during a crash, so X11 can no longer start
[02:01] <ricardo20> oye ya te agrege
[02:01] <pauli> chao
[02:01] <pashaw> Eleaf, are you trying to add something or just update?
[02:01] <ubuntu> I tried reinstalling the packages to no avail
[02:01] <ricardo20> agregame tu tambien porsiacaso
[02:01] <pauli> te veo maana
[02:01] <pauli> muac
[02:01] <Evil_Whisper> ubuntu try rebuilding your font cache
[02:01] <ricardo20><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:01] <crimsun_> pauli, ricardo20: this is offtopic.
[02:01] <dailyrorschach> has anyone had success with ubuntu 5.10 with the dell latitude and running sound for media
[02:01] <Delvien> ilove it,... i call microsoft to activate my Win XP i installed on a Vmware machine and get some INDIAN DUDE that cant speak english
[02:01] <psycose> cartesian1984 man dpkg
[02:01] <Eleaf> pashaw, I'm just trying to boot
[02:01] <ricardo20> wats happend
[02:01] <Evil_Whisper> lol
[02:02] <ubuntu> in the usr/share/X11/fonts dir if I do a ls i get all these errors saying to fsck
[02:02] <ricardo20> wats is the problem whit our lenguage
[02:02] <ubuntu> how would I run a cache rebuild?
[02:02] <Evil_Whisper> hold on im checking
[02:02] <pashaw> Eleaf,  you mean this happened during initial install of ubuntu?
[02:02] <crimsun_> ricardo20: Use #ubuntu-es. This is an English-typing channel.
[02:02] <ricardo20> ok
[02:02] <ricardo20> bye
[02:02] <Evil_Whisper> there you go ubuntu
[02:02] <Delvien> lol i hate when i call for support ( any company) and i get some indian out sourced call center
[02:02] <Eleaf> pashaw, no, I've had ubuntu running fabulous for half a year...
[02:03] <Eleaf> now it won't boot
[02:03] <Eleaf> I did a apt-get dist-upgrade and it won't reboot pashaw !
[02:03] <soundray> Delvien, you are off topic (apart from being xenophobic)
[02:03] <Kyral> Eleaf: what did you dist upgrade to>
[02:03] <pashaw> Eleaf,   lol  thats what i asked you   did you add someting or upgrade
[02:04] <ubuntu> ? what do you mean there you go? did i miss something? sorry
[02:04] <Evil_Whisper> yeah ubuntu run this
[02:04] <Delvien> soundray off topic ?  i will be off topic if i want to be :)
[02:04] <Eleaf> Kyral, pashaw, it was from the origional kubuntu breezy preview
[02:04] <pauli> hola
[02:04] <Kyral> Delvien: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:04] <Evil_Whisper> did you get that ubuntu?
[02:04] <Kyral> Eleaf: to?
[02:04] <soundray> Delvien, as far as I am concerned, this is the end of our conversation.
[02:04] <Eleaf> Kyral, pashaw I just did a dist upgrade to update to a newer system
[02:04] <Eleaf> Kyral, Breezy to Breezy
[02:04] <Delvien> soundray bite me
[02:05] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf: can you get to the CLI?
[02:05] <Kyral> Eleaf: was a new kernel or anything installed?
[02:05] <ubuntu> no sorry
[02:05] <Evil_Whisper> ubuntu run this: sudo fc-cache -f -v
[02:05] <ubuntu> k
[02:05] <ubuntu> i'll give'r a try
[02:05] <ubuntu> thanks a ton
[02:05] <Evil_Whisper> alright no problem
[02:05] <Evil_Whisper> just cmon back if it fails =P
[02:05] <Eleaf> Kyral, a new kernel wasn't installed
[02:05] <ubuntu> :) wish me luck
[02:05] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, no I can't!
[02:05] <nickrud> ubuntu, you can boot a live cd? then, man fsck.reiserfs is what you probably want to read
[02:05] <Evil_Whisper> Good Luck
[02:06] <Eleaf> It stops loading at CAlculating module dependencies Evil_Whisper
[02:06] <pashaw> Eleaf,  does it boot using recovery
[02:06] <Vejito> Going to sleep, it's 2am here...
[02:06] <Vejito> C y'all!
[02:06] <gandhii> anyone else have the problem of ubuntu install not being able to respond to keyboard at the first "language" menu screen in the install?
[02:06] <gandhii> or any ideas on why and how to fix it?
[02:06] <Eleaf> pashaw, how do i use recovery?
[02:06] <gandhii> its an amd64 nf4 system
[02:07] <soundray> gandhii, a USB keyboard?
[02:07] <Kyral> Eleaf: yanno when the thing "Loading Grub" thing comes up?
[02:07] <pashaw> Eleaf,  grub menu
[02:07] <gandhii> no.. standard ps2
[02:07] <Evil_Whisper> type recovery
[02:07] <Eleaf> pashaw, I don't have a grub menu, It's ppc
[02:07] <Eleaf> Kyral, there is no grub
[02:07] <Kyral> Eleaf: There HAS to be grub
[02:07] <soundray> gandhii, can you enter the BIOS setup?
[02:07] <Eleaf> Kyral, no there isn't its ppc
[02:07] <nickrud> yaboot, nalioth to the rescue. You around
[02:07] <gandhii> yea..
[02:08] <Eleaf> Kyral, that uses yaboot
[02:08] <Kyral> Eleaf: Oh, then I have NO Idea
[02:08] <Kyral> Eleaf: I know nothing about PPC :P
[02:08] <gandhii> running windows on that computer..   computer runs fine
[02:08] <Eleaf> they don't put a recovery kernel
[02:08] <Eleaf> it's really lame
[02:08] <Kyral> Eleaf: At least the boot sequence
[02:08] <Kyral> Eleaf: I shall have to note this
[02:08] <gandhii> all hardware works fine
[02:08] <soundray> gandhii, have you tried entering the BIOS setup?
[02:08] <gandhii> yes..  have changed around keyboard related settings with no effect
[02:09] <Eleaf> Kyral, I don't know what to do...
[02:09] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf
[02:09] <pashaw> Eleaf,  have you added or removed any hardware lately?
[02:09] <soundray> gandhii, have you got any indication of whether the system is still running when it shows the keyboard language menu?
[02:09] <Eleaf> I couldn't do a reinstall, I have worked so hard for half a year or so to get this perfect
[02:09] <soundray> gandhii, (could have crashed)
[02:09] <Evil_Whisper> Download the live CD and boot from that and run sudo apt-get install -f and see if that helps
[02:09] <Eleaf> pashaw, no... theres not really anything to install on an ibook
[02:09] <pashaw> Eleaf,   is /home on its own partition?
[02:09] <Eleaf> pashaw, no
[02:09] <Kyral> Eleaf: The only thing I could do would be to mention putting in a recovery kernel in the PPC one
[02:10] <gandhii> no not really..  hard to say..  since everything supposedly would stop at the languagte selection menu.. anyway
[02:10] <pashaw> Eleaf,   you could always use a liveCD to copy off your /home settings
[02:10] <gandhii> yes..  could have crashed
[02:10] <Evil_Whisper> http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-live-powerpc.iso
[02:10] <Evil_Whisper> download the live CD there Eleaf
[02:10] <soundray> gandhii, have you got the live CD?
[02:10] <Eleaf> I have the livecd.. I think
[02:10] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, yea I believe i do!
[02:11] <Evil_Whisper> ok then just boot from that and run sudo apt-get install -f
[02:11] <SweetestSavage> Anyone got any experience with iptables ?
[02:11] <soundray> Nice intersection of two conversations...
[02:11] <pashaw> Eleaf, huh?   it wont boot either?
[02:11] <cliff> hi again
[02:11] <gandhii> yea..  have had this problem with both live and install for both kubuntu and ubuntu
[02:11] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I think it was a hard drive problem though,
[02:11] <Eleaf> pashaw, what?
[02:11] <gandhii> ;]
[02:11] <Evil_Whisper> You could also fsck it from the liveCD
[02:11] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, because suddenly there were a whole bunch of errors
[02:11] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I fsck'd
[02:11] <pashaw> Eleaf,   sorry  ::P
[02:12] <Evil_Whisper> Ok then after you fsck run sudo apt-get install -f this will fix broken packages
[02:12] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, It was at the 30 boots so it did the hard drive check and found errors so I completed fsck
[02:12] <soundray> gandhii, how far does the live CD boot?
[02:12] <Eleaf> and then the problem got worse Evil_Whisper
[02:12] <Evil_Whisper> hmm... have you tried sudo apt-get install -f?
[02:12] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, after the dist upgrade, it said I was missing kernel modules
[02:12] <gandhii> soundray: to the first menu.. where you choose language
[02:12] <gandhii> in all acases
[02:12] <Evil_Whisper> wich kernel are you using?
[02:12] <Eleaf> ok, I'll try booting the live cd
[02:12] <Eleaf> I think it was 2.6.10
[02:12] <Evil_Whisper> I think you might be able to do this: sudo apt-get install linux-ppc
[02:13] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, would it install it on the hard drive?
[02:13] <Evil_Whisper> this will install the PPC kernel
[02:13] <Evil_Whisper> yeah
[02:13] <Eleaf> ok I'll try booting the livecd
[02:13] <gandhii> soundray: possibly hardware not supported?
[02:13] <Evil_Whisper> that will install the PPC kernel to the hard disk
[02:13] <soundray> gandhii, that was a dumb question then - I thought the live CD didn't have that dialog. -- Do you have a different live Linux CD?
[02:13] <soundray> gandhii, I doubt that it's a hardware support issue.
[02:13] <Evil_Whisper> hold on Eleaf let me do an apt-cache search for linux-ppc
[02:14] <soundray> gandhii, with those, you usually get an error message from the kernel, not a silent hang/freeze.
[02:14] <gandhii> hm..  ubuntu and kubuntu...  but i guess those are the same at that stage..  also i think a version of morphix
[02:14] <gandhii> think i had a similar problem with that..   i should try it again
[02:14] <soundray> gandhii, have you tried console switching?
[02:14] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I think it's named something different
[02:15] <gandhii> sounray:  console switching?
[02:15] <nekostar> arg
[02:15] <nekostar> hey trying to set up the wine thing and cant get dcom98....
[02:15] <nekostar> any suggestions?
[02:15] <soundray> gandhii, I mean, pressing Ctrl-Alt-F2 at the dialog.
[02:15] <gandhii> soundray:  nope..  whats that suppose  to do?
[02:15] <Evil_Whisper> Yeah Eleaf try sudo apt-get install linux-ppc
[02:15] <soundray> gandhii, Linux (most distributions) has multiple virtual consoles.
[02:16] <Evil_Whisper> I use x86 so I'm not sure of the kernel package name for PPC
[02:16] <gandhii> ahh..
[02:16] <cafuego> linux-image-2.6.12-10-powerpc or somesuch
[02:16] <gandhii> something to try then
[02:16] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, it won't boot the cd...
[02:16] <Eleaf> It says corrupt file system
[02:16] <gandhii> any other suggestions bnefore i reboot?
[02:16] <Eleaf> it was just working
[02:16] <soundray> gandhii, during Ubuntu install, you get different info and interfaces on the different consoles (Ctrl-Alt-F1 to -F4)
[02:16] <Evil_Whisper> Darn
[02:17] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf can you hit tab on the yaboot screen?
[02:17] <Evil_Whisper> that should give you a list of kernels
[02:17] <Evil_Whisper> check if there is more then one kernel
[02:17] <gandhii> ok...    thanks for the help..
[02:17] <soundray> gandhii, it would also be interesting to know whether the keyboard works at the kernel selection stage - i.e. can you select server install mode?
[02:18] <toby> Hi
[02:18] <kvidell> Speaking of Kernel's, what was updated that required me apt-get new kernel's today?
[02:18] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, ok I got it to work... for some reason, even though i specified cd, it launched into the harddrive's yaboot, it's trying to boot now though...
[02:18] <cached> guys i need help fast
[02:18] <Evil_Whisper> hi toby
[02:18] <cached> this is really important
[02:18] <Evil_Whisper> Ok
[02:18] <cached> i had a ton of work i accidently saved in /tmp/ directory
[02:18] <soundray> gandhii, check it out, hope you find a way to install.
[02:18] <gandhii> yes..  i presume you mean the point where you type in "live" etc...   if so..  then yes.
[02:18] <navarone> eleaf...maybe your hard drive has developed bad sectors?
[02:18] <Evil_Whisper> If you can get into the LiveCD try to locate the PPC kernel package
[02:18] <cached> any way to recover it, i did not restart
[02:18] <Evil_Whisper> I'm not sure of the name
[02:18] <Eleaf> navarone, It's a new hard drive...
[02:18] <Eleaf> and I did fsck
[02:18] <Evil_Whisper> and then install it
[02:18] <cached> please, someone?
[02:18] <gandhii> it freezes or whatever at the next prompt/menu
[02:18] <nickrud> cached, then they should still be there: ls /tmp
[02:18] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf also hit tab when Yaboot comes up
[02:19] <toby> What is this?
[02:19] <Eleaf> i did
[02:19] <cached> its not though
[02:19] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, it's taking forever to load...
[02:19] <cached> i don't know what happened
[02:19] <Evil_Whisper> Does it list any kernels?
[02:19] <Evil_Whisper> when you hit tab?
[02:19] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, yes it does, but it's stuck on loading ramdisk
[02:19] <Evil_Whisper> alright what does it list on the menu when you hit tab?
[02:19] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, it took like a minute just to get past that
[02:19] <toby> hi guys what is this window?
[02:19] <nickrud> cached, try sudo updatedb, then locate <file>
[02:19] <soundray> gandhii, are you on a laptop?
[02:19] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, all the kernels in the live disk
[02:19] <Eleaf> now I'm at the setup
[02:19] <navarone> cahced go to terminala nd use find or loccate to find specific file that you think is saved in tmp
[02:19] <gandhii> no..  nf4 amd64 desktop
[02:19] <Eleaf> choosing language etc Evil_Whisper
[02:20] <Evil_Whisper> Ok let me know when you can get into a CLI
[02:20] <izmeh> hello
[02:20] <pashaw> cached,   did you do this mistake using CLI?
[02:20] <aTypical> Hello all.  I'm having trouble with my usb drive.  I plugged it in and it appears to be detected, but it's not showing up or auto mounting like it did before.
[02:20] <cached> CLI?
[02:20] <Evil_Whisper> Command Line Interface
[02:20] <toby> there is any girl?
[02:20] <pashaw> cached,  terminal
[02:20] <cached> no
[02:20] <toby> in this room?
[02:20] <crimsun_> toby: offtopic.
[02:20] <soundray> gandhii, standard keyboard or some sort of mini/laptop-like?
[02:20] <cached> i did this by opening a file from firefox and editing it
[02:20] <cached> forgot to save it to a diffferent folder
[02:21] <pashaw> cached,  do you know at least 1 files name
[02:21] <cached> yes
[02:21] <soundray> gandhii, my thinking is that it could have to do with the NumLock state.
[02:21] <pashaw> cached,   find / -name (namehere)
[02:21] <gandhii> very standard keyboard..  tried 2 different ones..   it cant be the keyboard
[02:21] <izmeh> is mp3 support discussion allowed/
[02:21] <nickrud> !mp3
[02:21] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:21] <crimsun_> izmeh: only in the context of package discussion.
[02:21] <soundray> gandhii, that would be an odd one, anyway. NumLock state causing the problem, I mean.
[02:22] <Evil_Whisper> !ppc
[02:22] <ubotu> [ppc]  PowerPC. Macs, IBMs. Nicer then Intel.
[02:22] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I'm certain this is the livecd, but it's trying to install!!!
[02:22] <gandhii> sounds.. thats a thought..   i'll try toggleing that in the bios
[02:22] <cached> sudo find / -name ch9notes.doc should work?
[02:22] <cafuego> !ppc =~ s/then/than/
[02:22] <ubotu> OK, cafuego
[02:22] <pashaw> cached,  also try  ls -al /tmp | more    and look that way
[02:22] <nickrud> someone's been brainwashing ubotu
[02:22] <gandhii> i've learned it sometimes helps to try the thing you think it couldnt be  ;]
[02:22] <pashaw> cached,  sure
[02:22] <cached> i tried using the find thing under places
[02:22] <cached> it found nothing
[02:22] <frogzoo> Eleaf: if it's trying to install, it's not the live CD
[02:23] <Ophiocus> whats the best way to attempt to make a program like photoshop run on ubuntu?
[02:23] <cached> Eleaf: live CD looks like its trying to install though
[02:23] <cached> wine
[02:23] <cached> or just use GIMP
[02:23] <gandhii> or gimpshop
[02:23] <Eleaf> cached, frogzoo it says it's corrupt now
[02:23] <Eleaf> It was working fine
[02:23] <soundray> gandhii, I'm off. Do re-ask your question here, maybe you'll find more of an install problem wizard here next time.
[02:24] <Ophiocus> id rather not till i see what it can do, i need photoshop, will learn gimp/shop later
[02:24] <gandhii> thanks for your help..  if i have luck or not.. i have learneed a few things.. thanks
[02:24] <nickrud> gandhii, did you download and burn the install yourself?
[02:24] <gandhii> yes
[02:24] <cached> fuck shit fuck
[02:24] <Evil_Whisper> Ophiocus follow my wine tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=586605&postcount=6
[02:24] <cached> its not finding it
[02:24] <cached> NOOOOOOOOOOo
[02:24] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, the livecd is corrupted
[02:24] <cached> didnt find it
[02:24] <nickrud> gandhii, then, maybe you could check the md5sum of the iso, it may be bad.
[02:25] <gandhii> same problem with ubuntu and kubuntu live and install  .. hard to beleive all are corrupt
[02:25] <awstott> gandhii how fast did you burn the cds/
[02:25] <frogzoo> Eleaf: download again - check the md5 sum of the iso b4 u burn - and try a slightly slower burn speed
[02:25] <nickrud> gandhii, it's an easy check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto?highlight=%28iso%29
[02:25] <awstott> I had problems using cheap cds
[02:25] <awstott> had to burn at 1x to get them to work
[02:25] <ThePyromaniac> hey, when running live CD on one pc it comes up with the error "Failed to started the X server... it is likly that it has not been set correctly"
[02:25] <ThePyromaniac> tried the same cd on this pc and it works
[02:25] <nickrud> gandhii, I've seen really odd things come down to burning too fast
[02:26] <Eleaf> frogzoo, the livecd was just working perfectly the other day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:26] <gandhii> a slower speed..  20x or such i think..
[02:26] <gandhii> not burnt too fast
[02:26] <Evil_Whisper> 20x isnt slow =P
[02:26] <nickrud> as best as I could tell from not being there :)
[02:26] <ascension> where is the ubuntu guide for 5.10?
[02:26] <frogzoo> ThePyromaniac: you might need to set vert & horiz refresh in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:26] <Evil_Whisper> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver or somthing like that I forgot the exact command
[02:26] <nekostar> WELL
[02:26] <Eleaf> frogzoo, this is so lame
[02:26] <nekostar> DONT GO TO WINE
[02:26] <nekostar> they suck ass
[02:26] <Eleaf> it was working just fine
[02:26] <nickrud> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:26] <nekostar> mean motherfuckers
[02:27] <Evil_Whisper> yeah thanks nick
[02:27] <nekostar> :/
[02:27] <apokryphos> language, geez.
[02:27] <Evil_Whisper> :-O
[02:27] <awstott> lol
[02:27] <HymnToLife> anyone knows a good video editing app like Premiere for ubuntu ?
[02:27] <gandhii> well..  i guess i could try burning again..  but seems odd that 4 different burns would have the same problem at the same spot
[02:27] <ascension> so yes, where is the ubuntu guide for 5.10?
[02:27] <nickrud> well, hello, nalioth!
[02:27] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, Cinelerra!
[02:27] <frogzoo> what's with the gutter language in here today? seems a bit out of the ordinary
[02:27] <Evil_Whisper> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[02:27] <Evil_Whisper> ?
[02:27] <ascension> Evil_Whisper: that is for 5.04
[02:27] <ascension> ...no one has updated it
[02:27] <nalioth> Evil_Whisper: please dont advise that URL in here, it breaks things
[02:27] <nalioth> ascension: help.ubuntu.com
[02:28] <awstott> I broke my breezy install trying to get mythtv goin on it
[02:28] <gandhii> hym: theres a couple good ones..  do a google
[02:28] <HymnToLife> thx Eleaf :)
[02:28] <ascension> thank you nalioth
[02:28] <ThePyromaniac> frogzoo how can i do that? its before i can log in
[02:28] <cafuego> frogzoo: xmas is approaching, it makes certain humans go insane for the duration.
[02:28] <ThePyromaniac> i still get shell
[02:28] <Evil_Whisper> Sorry about that I wasn't aware it wasn't updated for breezy
[02:29] <ascension> Evil_Whisper: the page that nalioth has the guide now :)
[02:29] <Evil_Whisper> oh thanks for the info I'll have to check that out then
[02:29] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone here have experience with IPTables?
[02:29] <alvanson> I'm looking to install ubuntu on my laptop alongside Windows.  I have an 80G hard drive.  Any suggestions on how I should split up the drive?
[02:29] <frogzoo> ThePyromaniac: you can get md5 for windows
[02:29] <gandhii> allright.;. .  off to give things another try   thanks.. and laterz
[02:29] <Evil_Whisper> Thanks for the updated link guys
[02:29] <nickrud> alvanson, for testing linux, give yourself 10GB. Plenty of room for experimenting
[02:30] <frogzoo> SweetestSavage: no, but I'll take a look if you like - Im just getting up to speed
[02:30] <awstott> anyone know why i'm getting an Internal error, HAL failed to initialize
[02:30] <HymnToLife> alvanson > depends on how much you need for windows
[02:30] <alvanson> HymnToLife, hmm... I mean my Windows install takes 10G now.
[02:30] <nickrud> me, I have about 15gb (prorated) for windows in that much space
[02:31] <SweetestSavage> frogzoo - Well, I need to make it so that a certain program points a certain IP to connect properly..
[02:31] <navarone> alvanson...i just reduced my windows partition to 17gb...from 33gb. The rest of my 40gb drive is for music shares
[02:31] <SweetestSavage> Right now it doesn't, it tries to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>, and I need it to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:31] <SweetestSavage> IPTables can do that somehow
[02:31] <Eleaf> Well, I guess I can't save my iBook
[02:31] <alvanson> okay... then can ext3 partitions be both moved and resized?
[02:31] <Eleaf> I can't believe this
[02:32] <nickrud> Eleaf, don't give up, ask again.
[02:32] <frogzoo> SweetestSavage: you can use NAT - but you really ought to just reconfigure the app
[02:32] <nekostar> !_!
[02:32] <ubotu> nekostar: What?
[02:32] <nekostar> sowwie
[02:32] <HymnToLife> alvanson > then give 20 GB for Windows, 10 GB for /, 1GB swap and the rest for /home
[02:32] <nekostar> mostly >_>
[02:32] <SweetestSavage> frogzoo - That's the problem..
[02:32] <SweetestSavage> frogzoo - You can't do that.
[02:32] <pashaw> Eleaf, the LiveCDs dont work either
[02:32] <nalioth> Eleaf: what is the trouble with your ibook?
[02:32] <Eleaf> nickrud, I just don't know what to do...
[02:32] <nickrud> Eleaf, ^^^
[02:32] <cafuego> SweetestSavage: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -d <IP_ADDRESS> -j DNAT --to-destination <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:32] <ThePyromaniac> frogzoo what? how is that helpful?
[02:32] <SweetestSavage> cafuego, you're a god.
[02:32] <Eleaf> nalioth, It won't boot past Calculating module dependencies after a dist-upgrade from breezy to breezy
[02:33] <cafuego> SweetestSavage: Unless you just want to enable NAT inbound, in which case you didn't explain very well...
[02:33] <nalioth> Eleaf: what model ibook?
[02:33] <Eleaf> nalioth, umm...  ibook 500?
[02:33] <Eleaf> lol
[02:33] <frogzoo> ThePyromaniac: NAT = network address translation - have the app -> <IP_ADDRESS> -> NAT -> <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:33] <cafuego> SweetestSavage: We're monotheists here ;-)
[02:33] <pashaw> nalioth,  summary Eleaf has PPC ibook  wont boot install ubunut after his last  dist-upgrade    and now liveCDs wont boot either saying corrupted
[02:33] <SweetestSavage> cafuego, Well, I just need it to redirect to a certain point
[02:33] <nalioth> Eleaf: did you verify your install media and iso image?
[02:33] <cafuego> And as such I should be accessed as THE god <heh>
[02:33] <SweetestSavage> xD
[02:33] <HymnToLife> from Breezy to Breezy
[02:33] <HymnToLife> that's a 1337 upgrade :p
[02:33] <Eleaf> nalioth, yes, the livecd just worked the other day too
[02:33] <cafuego> SweetestSavage: From where to where? net? Lan? Either?
[02:34] <SweetestSavage> Well, here's what happens.
[02:34] <Eleaf> for some reason, whenever I use a livecd after like 3 times it gets corrupted!!!!
[02:34] <Evil_Whisper> Try to use SSH to get into your iBook?
[02:34] <ThePyromaniac> frogzoo what?! im tlkin about x server failing on boot
[02:34] <SweetestSavage> Under a normal client for the game, it connects to the login server, but not the character or map (it goes to <IP_ADDRESS>, from what I read).
[02:34] <nickrud> nalioth, not to interject too much, but he had a pre-release breezy, then dist-upgraded to recent breezy, and it broke (as I understand it)
[02:34] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, ???  It doesn't boot though!
[02:34] <SweetestSavage> And this is to connect to my own server, so I need it to connect to my IP, rather than <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:34] <nalioth> Eleaf: can you get to a rescue terminal?
[02:34] <ProN00b> i need packages for wxwidgets and perl-wx, does anyone know the package names, or how to get the packages from somewhere
[02:34] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, It certainly hasn't started any services like ssh...
[02:34] <ProN00b> ?
[02:34] <cafuego> SweetestSavage: Ok, so you need the desktop machine in question to do DNAT.... yeah, my rule should sort that out.
[02:35] <DShepherd> sup!! :)
[02:35] <Eleaf> nalioth, using the livecd I can... but that only has like 10 commands
[02:35] <Evil_Whisper> Oh yeah didn't think about that either sorry :(
[02:35] <Evil_Whisper> I'm just a newbie trying to help :-P
[02:35] <DShepherd> anyone know where I can find a yelp developer?
[02:35] <nalioth> Eleaf: not from the installed one?
[02:35] <SweetestSavage> cafuego, it gave me an invalid argument error
[02:36] <ThePyromaniac> anyone else know why X server causes error message sayings its configured wrong on live cd boot?
[02:36] <Eleaf> nalioth, how do I get to a terminal from the hard drive?
[02:36] <MickMcMack> ProN00b, apt-cache search <searchitem>
[02:36] <nickrud> DShepherd, sure
[02:36] <alvanson> I was thinking 20G Windows, 10G Linux, 1G swap, remaining (~50G) for a FAT32 shared partition
[02:36] <pashaw> nalioth,   he's using yaboot   for boot manager any experience with that
[02:37] <ProN00b> MickMcMack, already searched, didn't find anything
[02:37] <Eleaf> nalioth, they don't put a rescue kernel with the ppc version for some reason... o.o;
[02:37] <Evil_Whisper> Pyro I belive you can use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to fix that
[02:37] <nalioth> pashaw: yes i'm familiar with yaboot
[02:37] <eobanb> Eleaf, i believe they do....
[02:37] <nalioth> Eleaf: can you use the liveCD and chroot into your installed box?
[02:37] <Eleaf> eobanb, looks like mine didn't come with it
[02:37] <pashaw> nalioth,   good thats where we were stumped helping him
[02:37] <eobanb> no i'm pretty sure they do, Eleaf
[02:38] <Eleaf> eobanb, looks like mine didn't come with one!
[02:38] <Eleaf> the only kernel mine has is
[02:38] <frogzoo> ThePyromaniac: try setting horiz & vert refresh in /etc/X11/xorg.conf - something like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6038
[02:38] <pashaw> alvanson,  thats an excellent layout
[02:38] <nalioth> Eleaf: eobanb: one what?
[02:38] <Eleaf> eobanb, "Linux" there is no other kernel with yaboot when I hit tab
[02:39] <Evil_Whisper> My breezy install got owned by dapper during a dist-upgrade and all I could do was re install :S
[02:39] <navarone> alvanson> My setup: Two drives 40gb and 250gb. 40gb has windows system..reduced to 17gb as I said. The remaining portion is fat32 shared for transfer or files and p2p shares. 250gb I partitioned with drives cd utils and made two ntfs partitions (80gb + 106gb) and a fat32 at roughly 32gb incase I want to image windows drive. The remaining 12+gb was left unallocated for ubuntu install
[02:39] <navarone> sorry for the long post...lol
[02:40] <mrgumble> list
[02:40] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, man..  I have so many files I need!  Important schoolwork and such..ugh
[02:40] <eobanb> Eleaf, there's some other way to get into it
[02:40] <Eleaf> eobanb, how do I use chroot?
[02:40] <Eleaf> the livecd has that command
[02:40] <nalioth> Eleaf: nothing is gone.
[02:40] <alvanson> navarone, spiffy... too bad it's a laptop... can't install new hard drives in there (and I spent my hard drive money for my file server over there -->)
[02:41] <anthony_> how do i unmount a harddrive through terminal
[02:41] <anthony_> ?
[02:41] <Stormx2> anthony_: umount
[02:41] <frogzoo> Eleaf: chroot is for fairly expert use - u don't need it
[02:41] <phasegen> does ANYONE know if you can copy "/var/cache/apt/*" to another machine to keep from downloading everything a second time?
[02:41] <Eleaf> frogzoo, well then how do I get into my hard drive?
[02:41] <Stormx2> phasegen: Can you see the other machine on a network?
[02:41] <anthony_> so if it was hda1 then it would be "umount hda1"
[02:41] <nalioth> Eleaf: /msg ubotu recover       will tell you how to chroot (you don't need to do anything with grub)
[02:41] <Stormx2> anthony_: more like umount /dev/hda1
[02:42] <anthony_> ohhhhhh
[02:42] <Stormx2> anthony_: or is it umount /media/whatever
[02:42] <Stormx2> I can't remember
[02:42] <Stormx2> oh well
[02:42] <Stormx2> Try both
[02:42] <anthony_> yeah thanks
[02:42] <anthony_> alot
[02:42] <Evil_Whisper> !recover
[02:42] <ubotu> recover is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:42] <Evil_Whisper> !chroot
[02:42] <ubotu> chroot is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:42] <phasegen> Stormx2: not at the moment, but I'm working the issue....  it's wireless.  I was planning on using a cd
[02:42] <Paradosso> hi everybody
[02:42] <Paradosso> I just installed the artwiz fonts
[02:42] <Paradosso> it seems they make firefox look crappy
[02:42] <Stormx2> phasegen: CD would be best.
[02:42] <Paradosso> how's that?
[02:43] <Evil_Whisper> wow I'm lost already just looking at the chroot page =S
[02:43] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I read the man page
[02:43] <phasegen> Stormx2: Sweet.  Thank You.
[02:44] <nickrud> cuz artwiz is crappy?
[02:44] <nalioth> Eleaf: when you get into your system via chroot, run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[02:45] <Evil_Whisper> nalioth could you fix a dapper install the same way?
[02:45] <Eleaf> nalioth, what am I supposed to do? chroot /dev/hda?
[02:45] <jag_fsf> i had two partitions, /dev/hdc1 and /dev/hdd1, that were in a software raid-1 array... i just reinstalled ubuntu and i'm trying to reassemble that array, but i'm not able to clearly see how to do it... and i'm terrified of losing data on the array... anybody know how to do this?
[02:45] <santiago> hello someone spanish?
[02:46] <frogzoo> santiago: -> #ubuntu-es
[02:46] <Burglaptop> santiago: try #ubuntu-es
[02:47] <pauli> hola
[02:47] <Eleaf> nalioth, what am I supposed to do with chroot
[02:47] <pauli> habla en espaol
[02:47] <Eleaf> nalioth, chroot /dev/hda?  it says that doesn't exist
[02:47] <pauli> chao
[02:47] <Evil_Whisper> pauli try joining #ubuntu-es
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> try /dev/hda1
[02:47] <pauli> hhn
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> actuyally ya got to Mount hda1 somewher, then chroot towhere ya mounted it to,.
[02:48] <user_> i have a printer
[02:48] <pauli> ricardo 20?
[02:48] <Eleaf> Dr_Willis, it says that doesn't exist either
[02:48] <user_> how can i configure it?
[02:48] <Eleaf> /dev/hda2 3 or anything doesn't work Dr_Willis
[02:48] <user_> for adsl-connection i just runned pppoeconf
[02:48] <crimsun_> pauli: we've already stated that #ubuntu-es is appropriate.
[02:48] <user_> for the printer it simple procedure too
[02:48] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf you must mount it first
[02:48] <user_> ?
[02:48] <pashaw> Eleaf,   does fdisk -l   show any partitions?
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> heh linux fundamentals.. mount drives to access them
[02:49] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, when I try mounting, it says that doesn't exist too...
[02:49] <Eleaf> pashaw, the livecd doesn't have the fdisk command
[02:49] <ricardo20> hola
[02:49] <ricardo20> alguien que hable espaol????
[02:49] <crimsun_> ricardo20: #ubuntu-es
[02:49] <Eleaf> omg
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Eleaf,  on live cd. to go the console as root run fdisk.
[02:50] <Evil_Whisper> sudo -s
[02:50] <Eleaf> Dr_Willis, my livecd is corrupt
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Eleaf,  ewww...
[02:50] <Eleaf> Dr_Willis, I can't load anything except the emergency console
[02:50] <Evil_Whisper> try chroot /
[02:51] <Eleaf> Dr_Willis, the livecd was just working, but of course, the livecd ALWAYS gets corrupt whenever I use it more than 3 times
[02:51] <Evil_Whisper> I mean
[02:51] <Evil_Whisper> /dev/hda
[02:51] <Eleaf> /dev/hda
[02:51] <Eleaf> it says /dev/hda doesn't exist
[02:51] <steve_laptop> ? is there a command that I can run that will reconfigure my sound card?
[02:51] <Eleaf> i can see /dev/hda3
[02:51] <HymnToLife> Eleaf > mount it first
[02:51] <Eleaf> but it also says that doesn't exist
[02:51] <Evil_Whisper> :-S
[02:51] <crimsun_> steve_laptop: what sound card(s)?
[02:51] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, when I try to mount anything, it says it doesn't exist
[02:51] <Eleaf> lol
[02:51] <steve_laptop> intel somthing
[02:52] <crimsun_> steve_laptop: cat /proc/asound/cards (don't flood here)
[02:52] <nickrud> /dev/hda1
[02:52] <steve_laptop> I wont
[02:52] <HymnToLife> Eleaf > what is the commant you type ?
[02:52] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf can you check your /mnt/ directory?
[02:52] <pashaw> Eleaf,   what directory are you trying to mount it to?
[02:52] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, it says there is no /mnt
[02:53] <nickrud> lol, Eleaf, at least you're getting some serious moral support :\
[02:53] <Evil_Whisper> :-S
[02:53] <Eleaf> yee!  Thank you guys!
[02:53] <burnhamd> should I download the 386 or amd64 dapper cd
[02:53] <steve_laptop> crimsun_, its a HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[02:53] <burnhamd> which is more stabe
[02:53] <Evil_Whisper> Mine mounts my stuff to /mnt/<device>
[02:53] <crimsun_> steve_laptop: does it work at all?
[02:53] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, it says /dev/hda (1,2,3) is not in /etc/fstab
[02:53] <Evil_Whisper> ohhh a fstab problem
[02:53] <steve_laptop> crimsun_, no :(
[02:53] <aeon17x> !opera
[02:53] <ubotu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[02:53] <crimsun_> steve_laptop: e.g., can you hear anything with aplay?
[02:53] <Evil_Whisper> ok hold on let me do some reading
[02:53] <HymnToLife> Eleaf > then you must specify the mounting point
[02:54] <steve_laptop> no
[02:54] <nickrud> Eleaf, try sudo fdisk -l ; that will tell you the partitions you have
[02:54] <crimsun_> steve_laptop: what's the output from the command I gave you?
[02:54] <steve_laptop> hold on
[02:54] <Eleaf> nickrud, the livecd doesn't have the fdisk command
[02:54] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf try this
[02:55] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, it still says /dev/hda doesn't exist, even when I specify a mounting point
[02:55] <Evil_Whisper> cat /etc/fstab
[02:55] <Evil_Whisper> and tell us what that outputs
[02:55] <HymnToLife> you must tell him which partition you want to mount Eleaf
[02:55] <HymnToLife> so it is /dev/hdax
[02:55] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, the livecd doesn't have the cat command
[02:56] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, there is no hda anything in /dev
[02:56] <ubuntu> hey
[02:56] <crimsun_> steve_laptop: paste the output from amixer onto pastebin
[02:56] <nickrud> Eleaf, my god
[02:56] <HymnToLife> sda maybe then
[02:56] <Eleaf> The livecd rescue terminal froze
[02:56] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, I know it's usually /dev/hda
[02:56] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf can you cat /etc/fstab?
[02:56] <Eleaf> the emergency console froze
[02:56] <user_> i have the printer: Epson Stylus Color DX4200
[02:56] <Evil_Whisper> oh thats not good Eleaf
[02:57] <user_> how can i configure it?
[02:57] <Evil_Whisper> Can you reboot it?
[02:57] <steve_laptop> crimsun, were do i find that :)
[02:57] <Eleaf> and Evil_Whisper, cat isn't in the livecd rescue mode
[02:57] <HymnToLife> Eleaf > or do a sudo fdisk -l and you'll see what your hard drive is
[02:57] <Evil_Whisper> can you nano fstab?
[02:57] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, yet,,, fdisk is not a command in the livecd rescue mode
[02:57] <ubuntu> is it possible to mount a ntfs drive with read/write from ubuntu live?
[02:57] <crimsun> steve_laptop: ''amixer''
[02:57] <nickrud> user_, start with top menu bar, System->Administration->Printing
[02:57] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, it only has like 9 commands..
[02:57] <crimsun> ubuntu: read-only
[02:57] <Evil_Whisper> !ntfs
[02:57] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu,  you dont want to write to one... it can trash the disk.
[02:58] <pashaw> Eleaf,   do you have ANY other liveCDs  say knoppix?
[02:58] <Evil_Whisper> !NTFS
[02:58] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:58] <nickrud> ubuntu, no, I don't think the livecd has that evil tool
[02:58] <Eleaf> pashaw, no I don't...
[02:58] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf do you have a CD burner?
[02:58] <HymnToLife> fdisk is for sure on ubuntu live CD :/
[02:58] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I do..
[02:58] <ubuntu> oh well poop...
[02:58] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf download somthing like damn small linux
[02:58] <HymnToLife> I used it a million times
[02:58] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I don't think they make that for ppc
[02:58] <Eleaf> lo
[02:59] <ubuntu> i need to fix windows, but i can't write to the drive
[02:59] <Evil_Whisper> Oh man I forgot  you using PPC
[02:59] <ubuntu> thought this would work
[02:59] <crimsun> steve_laptop: don't paste to me in private; use a pastebin.
[02:59] <frogzoo> cafuego: do you know if iptables is capable of mangling the TCP sliding window? for reverse b/w limiting?
[02:59] <nickrud> ubuntu, what do you mean, 'fix windows'
[02:59] <steve_laptop> crimsun, whats the pastebin? sorry
[02:59] <crimsun> !paste
[02:59] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:59] <Evil_Whisper> Can you burn a new Ubuntu liveCD?
[02:59] <HymnToLife> !pastebin
[02:59] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:00] <occy> crimsun, heyaz
[03:00] <ubuntu> nickrud, it's missing a vital dll for whatever reason
[03:00] <crimsun> occy: h.
[03:00] <crimsun> +i
[03:00] <ubuntu> so it won't boot
[03:00] <occy> crimsun, things finally seem somewhat stable
[03:00] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf
[03:00] <occy> crimsun, back on gnome.  heh.
[03:00] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper,
[03:00] <Evil_Whisper> can you run apt-get -f install?
[03:00] <anthony_> hello
[03:00] <occy> couldn't stay with KDE for more than 24hrs
[03:00] <Evil_Whisper> :S
[03:00] <anthony_> has anybody ever had their ntldr file fail
[03:00] <anthony_> ?
[03:00] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, not yet
[03:00] <nickrud> ubuntu, no, you can't use the live cd for that, sorry. (one of the few things I am certain about between windows and the live cd, thank you )
[03:00] <cafuego> frogzoo: Yes, it can do that.
[03:01] <Evil_Whisper> how bout nano fstab?
[03:01] <cafuego> frogzoo: Usefulness would depend on upstream routers
[03:01] <iflipti> could someone decipher what this part from a readme means? ...
[03:01] <occy> crimsun, what I did was, I went into synaptic, and nuked all my entries to my sources.list,  and then added each of the binary options and checked all of the available solutions.  then upgraded and things are stable now.
[03:01] <user_> there is not my printer
[03:01] <anthony_> has anybody ever had their ntldr file fail?
[03:01] <ubuntu> thanks
[03:01] <user_> into the printer list
[03:01] <occy> thought I had done that before, but apparently it wasn't pulling in the security updates or some junk.
[03:01] <anthony_> how do you fix it if you dont have a floppy drive?
[03:01] <user_> there is much Epson but not my Epson
[03:01] <Evil_Whisper> try sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:01] <Evil_Whisper> and see if theres anything in there
[03:01] <iflipti> "run make installfw which will copy files to FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR..."
[03:01] <anthony_> me?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> anthony_,  for windowsxp - the xp install cd has a rescue mode you can use 'fixboot'
[03:02] <occy> crimsun, I bet you there are a lot of people who would do what I didn't do.
[03:02] <occy> anyhoo
[03:02] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, the liecd doesn't have nano
[03:02] <anthony_> rescue mode
[03:02] <anthony_> ok ill try it
[03:02] <crimsun> occy: sounds good.
[03:02] <nickrud> user_, then maybe http://linuxprinting.org will have more help
[03:02] <anthony_> what if the CD wont boot
[03:02] <Evil_Whisper> does it have anything you can use to read files?
[03:02] <Evil_Whisper> I don't have a live CD for refrence so.
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> anthony_,  sounds like you may be SOL. :()
[03:02] <anthony_> no!!!!!!
[03:02] <anthony_> lol
[03:02] <anthony_> lame
[03:03] <Evil_Whisper> I think you might have to just re install Eleaf
[03:03] <HymnToLife> Eleaf > gedit then
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> Welcome to windows...
[03:03] <occy> crimsun, things got so bad, I nuked my sytem, tried gentoo, tried Suse 10.0, and tried kubuntu.  got fed up and came back to ubuntu and gnome,  figured I'd stick with the bugginess.  But, then I figured that out.  Things have been rock solid for like 4 days.
[03:03] <anthony_> ive been trying to put knoppix or ubuntu on
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> anthony_,  unless ya can track down a boot floppy that lets ya get to the cd. :(
[03:03] <anthony_> but the CD wont boot
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> anthony_,  Hmm.. has it ever booted off the cd?
[03:03] <anthony_> yeah all the time
[03:03] <anthony_> it used to
[03:03] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf: Can you gedit /etc/fstab?
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> double check the bios i guess..
[03:04] <occy> crimsun, anyway, I know you don't lay awake at night worrying about whether or not I am having problems but thought I'd share my thoughts with you. ;)
[03:04] <bachstudies> i've created a script that uses zenity. When I run my script within a shell everything works fine but when I use it in crontab zenity doesn't work. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:04] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, the livecd recover mode only has like cd, ls, chroot, passwd and that's pretty much it
[03:04] <docgnome> I'm trying to install the fglrx drivers for my ati radeon and I am having some trouble.  I follow the instructions on the wiki for "using the drivers from ati.com" and i get to the step where I do "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel" and I get an ncurses UI. I then select the fglrx-kernel module and try to build it and it says "W: Unable to locate package syscalltrack-source" as well as a few other package names followed by "fin
[03:04] <docgnome> I'm running 5.04
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> bachstudies,  when ran by cron the user and paths are different - may be the issue.
[03:04] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf: Can you mkdri /mnt/ ?
[03:04] <Evil_Whisper> *mkdir
[03:05] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf: try sudo mkdir /mnt/
[03:05] <HymnToLife> Eleaf > but why did you run it in recover mode ?
[03:05] <anthony_> Dr.Willis is there anything else you suggest?
[03:05] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I did
[03:05] <anthony_> if the Cd wont boot and no floppy
[03:05] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, because the livecd is corrupt
[03:05] <bachstudies> Dr_Willis, I have made sure that my paths are absolute e.g. sh /home/chris/file.sh
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> anthony_,  no other cd drives eh?
[03:05] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, it was working fine the other day then it suddenly doesn't work
[03:05] <anthony_> nope its a laptop
[03:05] <crimsun> occy: glad to read they've been resolved (fingers crossed)
[03:05] <nameeate1> !repo
[03:05] <ubotu> nameeate1: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:05] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf: After you've done that type mount /dev/hda /mnt
[03:06] <steve_laptop> crimsun ok its posted
[03:06] <crimsun> steve_laptop: any progress? Pass me the url when you've finished.
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> bachstudies,  even paths in the script eh? since $PATH may be different.  may be permission issues then
[03:06] <nameeate1> hmm, whats the repo's ! command?
[03:06] <dpupp> im in the process of partitioning my disks after windows messed up grub.. is it possible to mount my windows harddrive in linux as well? im seeing that i can mount it as ntfs in the partition window...
[03:06] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, this has happend to all my ubuntu cd's after precisely 3 times using them, they get corrupt, every time!
[03:06] <docgnome> anyone have any ideas?
[03:06] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I did that, but /dev/hda doesn't exist
[03:06] <HymnToLife> funny...
[03:06] <nameeate1> !apt
[03:06] <ubotu> [apt]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[03:06] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, It just doesn't think the harddrive exists!
[03:06] <nameeate1> !repos
[03:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[03:06] <steve_laptop> crimsun ok  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6039
[03:06] <anthony_> Dr_willis, the only Cd that will boot everytime is the KNOPPIX live CD
[03:06] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf: try cd /dev/
[03:06] <nameeate1> woo there we go
[03:06] <bachstudies> Dr_Willis, I have run it in root's crontab so there shouldn't be a problem on that front, right?
[03:06] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf: then ls
[03:07] <Evil_Whisper> do you see hda in the /dev/ folder?
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> bachstudies,  i was thinking that cron ran as its own userid/groupid  (i may be wrong)  time to rtfm :P
[03:07] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, there's nothign
[03:07] <Eleaf> lol
[03:07] <Evil_Whisper> aw thats not good Eleaf
[03:07] <Eleaf> well there is like ram
[03:07] <anthony_> Dr_willis, the only Cd that will boot everytime is the KNOPPIX live CD
[03:07] <Eleaf> and a bunch of other random stuff that doesn't have to do with a hard drive
[03:08] <Evil_Whisper> hmmmmmm
[03:08] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I know everything with the hard drive is FINE but just ONE file is missing...
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> anthony_,  that sounds like your cd/burning software/disks are the iossuie
[03:08] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, it was one kernel module, and it can't boot without it..
[03:08] <docgnome> Does anyone have any experience installing the fglrx driver in 5.04?
[03:08] <mcjerry> what program can i run on ubuntu that would be similar to ms frontpage?
[03:08] <anthony_> Dr_willis,hmmm nero 7, always have worked
[03:08] <bachstudies> Dr_Willis, do you know if there is a command that I can use in the script to open up a terminal window and have the commands run in the terminal?
[03:09] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf
[03:09] <SweetestSavage> Is there anyone here that is good at hexing?
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> anthony_,  could be bad disks..
[03:09] <anthony_> that what i thought
[03:09] <anthony_> the knoppix live was on different media
[03:09] <user_> someone have the printer: Epson Stylus DX4200 ???
[03:09] <anthony_> good sugestion
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> bachstudies,  could echo/cat stuff to log files somewhere. ive rarely done more then trivial things with cron.
[03:09] <apokryphos> mcjerry: WYSIWYG editors generally suck and produce crummy code. But, there's bluefish, I believe, which is one.
[03:09] <crimsun> steve_laptop: is this on Breezy?
[03:09] <HymnToLife> nope
[03:09] <docgnome> Or alternatly, does anyone know if the fglrx driver installs easier into 5.10
[03:09] <HymnToLife> Bluefish is no WYSIWYG
[03:10] <Evil_Whisper> For WYSIWYG use NVU
[03:10] <anthony_> thanks Dr_Willis
[03:10] <steve_laptop> crimsun, yes
[03:10] <nickrud> mcjerry, I've never used frontpage, but nvu is as close as it gets, i hear
[03:10] <nickrud> mcjerry, but, I recommend screem
[03:10] <crimsun> steve_laptop: default sound drivers, correct?
[03:10] <HymnToLife> screem is no wysiwyg either
[03:10] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, hmm
[03:10] <SweetestSavage> Is there anyone here that is good at hexing?
[03:11] <morten> ok, so i've downloaded a theme for gnome, how do i "install" it?
[03:11] <apokryphos> html takes a few hours to learn; not hard at all.
[03:11] <steve_laptop> crimsun, think so
[03:11] <nickrud> HymnToLife, I do know that
[03:11] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf, so nothing is mounted at all?
[03:11] <bachstudies> Dr_Willis, my script works when I use the "run as different user" from the Ubuntu menu so surely there is a way to "run as different user" without going though the ubuntu menu
[03:11] <crimsun> steve_laptop: "think so"? You need to be certain.
[03:11] <mcjerry> nickrud: i got bluefish, ad screem, and both are fine for coding, i need a graphical editor....will tryout nvu
[03:11] <nameeate1> bachstudies: su -username?
[03:11] <steve_laptop> im not
[03:11] <steve_laptop> hold on
[03:11] <apokryphos> mcjerry: for coding Quanta+ is the best ;-)
[03:11] <nameeate1> man su anyway
[03:11] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf next install be sure to make home a seperate partition incase this occurs again :-)
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> bachstudies,  of course there is. this is linux.. :P gotta figure out exactly the best way to do it for your case.
[03:12] <nalioth> mcjerry: but there are other programs for coding, use them all, and keep using the ones you like
[03:12] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, well it's just one file...
[03:12] <bachstudies> nameeate1, can I run this command within a .sh script? Will it bring up a terminal window?
[03:12] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, what was the command you were saying to do.  apt-get install -f?
[03:12] <mcjerry> apokryphos: is Quanta+ in synaptic or do i need to compile from source?
[03:12] <nameeate1> bachstudies: that I don't know ;)
[03:12] <nalioth> mcjerry: it is in synaptic
[03:13] <mcjerry> nalioth: same for nvu?
[03:13] <nameeate1> i know you can make stuff run in anouther 'shell' but dunno how you would make it open anouther terminal window
[03:13] <apokryphos> mcjerry: yup
[03:13] <HymnToLife> mcjerry > yes
[03:13] <pashaw> Eleaf, my vote goes for having a friend burn you  2 diff liveCDs   say 1-ubuntu and 1-knoppix    then  have a go  before the reinstall wipes it
[03:13] <nalioth> mcjerry: yes if you're running breezy
[03:13] <markive> Wassup all
[03:13] <SweetestSavage> Is there anyone here that is good at hexing?
[03:13] <mcjerry> dapper
[03:13] <nalioth> mcjerry: then of course
[03:13] <jag_fsf> looking for suggestions... if (don't ask why) /var/run/sudo doesn't exist and i haven't set a root password, how can i do something as root to correct /var/run/sudo not existing?
[03:13] <Eleaf> pashaw, I have a cd burner
[03:13] <sethk> SweetestSavage, you now have a hex on you
[03:14] <crimsun> steve_laptop: just cat /proc/asound/version
[03:14] <pashaw> Eleq youve already admitted yours fail too often have a friend burn em
[03:14] <SweetestSavage> o.O
[03:14] <pashaw> Eleq   oops
[03:14] <SweetestSavage> Not that kind of hexing =P
[03:14] <nalioth> Eleaf: and md5sum your iso image
[03:14] <Eleaf> pashaw, at least I have my main ubuntu computer, this one.  But my iBook is important whenever I have to go places
[03:14] <Toma-> is the ogm format supported by xine/mplayer etc by default?
[03:14] <sethk> jag_fsf, you can create the directory, sure
[03:14] <HymnToLife> and burn at low speed
[03:14] <Eleaf> nalioth, I md5'd this livecd, it was fine and worked fine
[03:14] <Toma-> being an open format i should hope so
[03:14] <jag_fsf> sethk: how, if not as root?
[03:15] <markive> i made ubuntuburn a cd on k3b on this d600 laptop, i didn't think it would work straight out the box but it did :)
[03:15] <nickrud> and, finally, md5sum the cd itself
[03:15] <Eleaf> nalioth, but whenever I use any ubuntu cd more than 3 times, it gets corrupted, I have NO idea how..
[03:15] <nalioth> Eleaf: humor us, burn it on another burner at the lowest speed possible
[03:15] <nalioth> Eleaf: and md5sum the iso image also
[03:15] <Eleaf> nalioth, I've used two burners actually'
[03:15] <Eleaf> lol
[03:15] <sethk> jag_fsf, you said "how could I do something as root ..." when you meant "how can I become root to do something"
[03:15] <Eleaf> but why would it work only 3 times nalioth ?
[03:16] <markive> i've been out wardriving tonight
[03:16] <vblanton> Anyone know why I can view my apache2.0 webserver on any computer in the house but no one outside the house (past the router/firewall) can see my website? I have enabled port forwarding of PORT 80 on my router/firewall
[03:16] <Eleaf> I was able to use the livecd fine before
[03:16] <sethk> jag_fsf, you fix that by booting a rescue cd, or the install cd in rescue mode
[03:16] <nameeate1> bachstudies: man gnome-terminal, there is an -x (excecute option)
[03:16] <Khisanth> Toma-: haven't had any problem playing OGM in mplayer with default options :)
[03:16] <nalioth> Eleaf: i have no clue. try different blank media
[03:16] <Toma-> Khisanth: cool thx :)
[03:16] <steve_laptop> crimsun,  this whats came from that command  - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.9
[03:16] <jag_fsf> sethk: yes... physical access to the machine will be difficult... :-)
[03:16] <nickrud> vblanton, maybe your isp blocks 80?
[03:16] <mcjerry> also meant to ask, what program would you recommend i use to edit flash files with? I need to make changes to a flash site
[03:16] <Kyral> nickrud: What retarded ISP blocks port 80?
[03:16] <Toma-> mcjerry: have you got dreamweaver?
[03:16] <nalioth> mcjerry: windows or OSX
[03:16] <nickrud> Kyral, I had one, not any more
[03:16] <crimsun> steve_laptop: ok, it looks like you need to use Dapper's ALSA driver
[03:16] <vblanton> nickrud: maybe... but would I be able to connect to my own website with my public ip if it did?
[03:17] <sethk> jag_fsf, that may be there isn't an alternative.   I have a satellite service and its would be reasonable if they didn't want to lag down the lines any further with a web server
[03:18] <steve_laptop> crimsun,  ok
[03:18] <Kyral> vblanton: Ah
[03:18] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - It's a client exe
[03:18] <nalioth> mcjerry: there is no flash editor available at this time for linux   f4l.sourceforge.net is the closest thing
[03:18] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: what do you need to do?
[03:18] <Eleaf> my isp blocks most ports, it's really annoying they should all be open but they think we need extra firewall protection or something
[03:18] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - It doesn't connect to the right IP, it has to connect to three IPs, they're all the same value, but my client only connects to the first one then goes to <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:18] <Toma-> mcjerry: how much space did the default dapper install take up?
[03:19] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - My reason for this, is there IS a client that does this.. but it's very old and quite useless
[03:19] <nameeate1> i do not need the source repo's in my sources.list do i? they arn't anything important right?
[03:19] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - I need an updated client that's able to do this..
[03:19] <mcjerry> Toma- lemme look....i got some video recordings from vdr lemme do the math
[03:19] <nickrud> nameeate1, not really no.
[03:19] <nameeate1> nickrud: coo thx
[03:19] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - I would imagine it's not that hard, I wouldn't have an idea, though. Would you like to take a look?
[03:19] <bachstudies> dooglus, ok some detail...I am running clamAV and have it set up to scan my home dir every morning at 10am. My script basically calls clamscan and then reads the resulting log file and uses zenity to display the results in a popup message. The problem is that the message won't pop up if I run the script outside of a terminal window.
[03:19] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: and where does 'hexing' fit in?  I'm not with you yet...
[03:19] <izmeh> is it possible to access the partition that my OSX uses/
[03:19] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - You have to modify the client.exe file to make it connect to all 3 IP's properly
[03:20] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - Otherwise you have to do an IPTable, which I can't do in a chroot =P
[03:20] <dooglus> bachstudies: that's because the script doesn't have the right "X Authority" settings
[03:20] <bachstudies> dooglus, ok how would I go about making this work?
[03:20] <nalioth> bachstudies: yes it is, mount using the hfs+ flag
[03:21] <steve_laptop> crimsun,  ok done with that part
[03:21] <bachstudies> nalioth, ??? what is a hfs+ flag?
[03:21] <dooglus> bachstudies: look at this script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6040 - if you run it in a terminal which *can* make X windows, it will write the values you need into ~/.xsettings
[03:21] <MarcN> postfix isn't sending email off my system.  Do i really need to do all the mucking the wiki talks about?  I've dpkg-reconfigure postfix and pointed to a local smarthost.
[03:21] <dooglus> bachstudies: get your other script to source .xsettings and then it, too, will be able to make X windows.
[03:21] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - I can send you both the client that works (but is too old) and the new one that doesn't work
[03:21] <nickrud> *postfix sucks
[03:21] <nalioth> bachstudies: open a console and type "man mount" OSX uses hfs+ filesystem
[03:21] <nameeate1> why am i getting errors updating my apt-get list?Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:22] <crimsun> steve_laptop: now, wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb
[03:22] <nickrud> MarcN, which wiki?
[03:22] <bachstudies> nalioth, I think you are talking to the wrong person!!!
[03:22] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: these are windows .exe files?  How do you intend to understand them?  You plan to disassemble them?
[03:22] <user_> into one directory i have much file.tar
[03:22] <MarcN> nickrud: wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix
[03:22] <user_> how can i decompress all packages ?
[03:22] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - They are windows exe files.. and, I can't understand them. I use WINE in a 32-bit chroot to run them.
[03:22] <user_> tar -xf *
[03:22] <user_> that do not work
[03:22] <nalioth> bachstudies: tryin to teach ya something, lol
[03:22] <sethk> nameeate1, that would mean that you have a corrupted archive, or a permissions failure somewhere
[03:23] <sethk> nameeate1, corrupted archive is more likely
[03:23] <nalioth> izmeh: mount it using the hfs+ flag in your mount command
[03:23] <nameeate1> sethk: so what can i do? purge the whole lot and start again?
[03:23] <Toma-> anyone know how much space dapper takes up after a default install?
[03:23] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: if you don't have either (1) the source, (2) a good knowledge of disassembling .exe files or (3) a tame hacker, then I don't see what you can do
[03:23] <nickrud> MarcN, that is really overkill, isn't it:)
[03:23] <markive> whats the best wardriving tool out there?
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> back
[03:23] <MarcN> nickrud: sendmail is easier ;-)
[03:23] <mcjerry> Toma-: is hard to say, i installed breezy on 27G partition, have 1.2G swap partition. after installing breezy, changed to dapper sources and did apt-get dist-upgrade. now have 19GB free space after adjusting for a few recordings on root partition
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf any progress?
[03:23] <bachstudies> nalioth, but i don't even run OSX!!!!!!!!
[03:23] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - Obviously, that's why I'm seeing if someone else knows how to hex clients..
[03:23] <sethk> nameeate1, I would try, first, deleting that specific file (the one in the error message) and doing apt-get update
[03:23] <Toma-> mcjerry: oic
[03:23] <MrRio> when will WxWidgets start to be compiled against GTK2 instead of GTK1?
[03:24] <nameeate1> sethk: ok thanks