[02:30] <Jucato> yes, Linux is definitely not ready for the Desktop... for those who have replaced their brains with their mice...
[02:30] <ForgeAus> possibly someone has but I haven't Mightily...
[02:31] <Jucato> no idea Mightily-Oats... sorry you've had to ask all day... :(
[02:31] <ForgeAus> I dunno I'd agree that Linux IS ready for the desktop its just not... easy thats all
[02:32] <lotusleaf> ForgeAus: most "easy" people are filled with problems and diseases, or prone to either, much like easy operating systems
[02:32] <Jucato> changing to something new is never easy. it requires an open mind more than new skills, though
[02:32] <ForgeAus> depending on what your doing with your PC, but me being so used to Windows... finds it easier...
[02:32] <lotusleaf> ForgeAus: I'd rather enjoy a complex OS, like I enjoy complex people
[02:32] <ForgeAus> lotus, interesting perspective
[02:32] <ForgeAus> and yes most people are complicated
[02:32] <lotusleaf> ForgeAus: I said complex, not complicated
[02:32] <Mightily-Oats> Jucato: im sorry ive been such a pain.. im trying everything.. i can now get sound through the headsets.. in everything except for enemy territory.. main reason i got them
[02:33] <Jucato> simple people are boring... like a square...
[02:33] <ForgeAus> lotus, both will do
[02:33] <ForgeAus> (when talking about people)
[02:33] <lotusleaf> ForgeAus: I like habaneros
[02:33] <ForgeAus> hehe Jucato I heard a good saying once : if you think I'm weird I think your boring!
[02:33] <Jucato> Mightily-Oats: no you're not a pain. and I imagine you're in pain... have you tried other means of support? forums? mailing list?
[02:34] <ForgeAus> Habanerous is a word I haven't come across as yet, so I hope you'll excuse me if I don't understand it...
[02:34] <lotusleaf> ForgeAus: I like the saying "make people think that they're thinking and they'll love you, make them actually think and they will hate you."
[02:34] <Mightily-Oats> yep..... google... ubuntu forums... looking up usb headsets, dual soundcards, disabling one sound card and routing sound
[02:34] <Mightily-Oats> the usb headset acts like its own soundcard
[02:34] <Mightily-Oats> doesnt use the computers one
[02:34] <ForgeAus> I don't know I like thinking... mostly
[02:34] <vega__> yesterday i have tried to instal kubuntu on my laptop (toshiba l10) but the installation stopped at %14
[02:37] <vega__> i have selected 5.6 gb partition to install i think that my ram is not enough (256 mb)
[02:37] <vega__> how can i activate swap partition
[02:37] <Mightily-Oats> Jucato: just had a brainwave.. what if its not the card not liking the game... but the command i have to run to get the game to work
[02:37] <vega__> or how can i install kubuntu from konsole
[02:38] <vega__> i dont want kubuntu to open like i live cd
[02:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> why not vega__?
[02:38] <Mightily-Oats> vega__: try the alternate cd :)
[02:38] <vega__> because my ram is not enough
[02:39] <abhinay> how to install minimal kubuntu-desktop ?
[02:39] <abhinay> iam using Gnome
[02:40] <Jucato> abhinay: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[02:40] <Jucato> that guide would be useful
[02:40] <ForgeAus> kubuntu-desktop isn't very minimal
[02:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> fluxbox, blackbox, and xfce are good minimal desktops
[02:40] <ForgeAus> but I think you mean to install kubuntu-desktop and remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> I think....
[02:41] <Jucato> it's the only kubuntu-desktop.. so it's both minimal and max :)
[02:42] <ForgeAus> yes as someone said the kubuntu-desktop package is quite small, but the dependancies are massive!
[02:43] <ForgeAus> well not extremely massive but pretty big
[02:43] <Jucato> the dependencies of kubuntu-desktop (without ubuntu-desktop installed first) is 1 CD :D
[02:44] <ForgeAus> around 700mb
[02:44] <ForgeAus> dettoal yeah your right all three are minimal but not as functional as KDE imho
[02:44] <vega__> can i install kubuntu to an extended partition
[02:45] <ForgeAus> extended partition? um possibly
[02:45] <ForgeAus> if its fat32 you can read/write it from Kubuntu, but I would only suggest doing so if you didn't have other options available
[02:46] <ForgeAus> not sure about booting from there
[02:46] <ForgeAus> although there is a grub for dos
[02:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> what is the name of the bar at the bottom of the screen, and what are some replacements to the default one in kubuntu?
[02:47] <ForgeAus> NTFS doesn't come in extended partitions does it?
[02:47] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: Kicker the KDE Panel?
[02:47] <ForgeAus> kicker is the name of kbuuntu's "taskbar"
[02:47] <MuJ> kde's
[02:47] <Jucato> although technically, it's not the taskbar... :P
[02:47] <dettoaltrimenti_> yes jucato- the task manager, k-menu, clock, trash, those things
[02:47] <ForgeAus> ok yes kde's
[02:48] <dettoaltrimenti_> I've seen some that half is on the top of the screen, half is on the bottom- others look like mac's dock
[02:48] <ForgeAus> hehe the taskbar is only part of it I get it, yes but windows users tend to refer to the entire thing as the "taskbar"...
[02:48] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: yep. it's Kicker. alternatives would be those Mac OS X dock apps like kxdocker
[02:48] <ForgeAus> even in windows I think its likely technically incorrect
[02:48] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: you can have a Mac OS X-like top panel for Main menus
[02:48] <ForgeAus> I like kooldock
[02:49] <dettoaltrimenti_> and if I install kxdocker or another kind, where can I change the settings to make it load every time I load ubuntu?
[02:49] <ForgeAus> you can even install applets into the menu!
[02:49] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: right-click on the desktop -> Configure Desktop -> Behavior -> Menu bar at the top of the screen
[02:50] <ForgeAus> um that doesn't make kxdocker load by default :) but it does make the menu work like MacOS
[02:50] <ForgeAus> (top screen one)
[02:51] <Jucato> ForgeAus: dettoaltrimenti_: you can have a Mac OS X-like top panel for Main menus
[02:51] <vega__> http://debianadmin.com/copper/displayimage.php?pid=286&fullsize=1  i had rea
[02:51] <Jucato> I said the top panel...
[02:51] <ForgeAus> Baghira is a macosx-like theme too
[02:51] <ForgeAus> its quite nice
[02:51] <ForgeAus> even comes with its own kmenu replacement menu
[02:52] <vega__> i had reach this step but the installation did not format the partition i selected
[02:52] <ForgeAus> I tried it it was fun.. but I prefered not using it
[02:52] <ForgeAus> plus I like blue better than white/grey...
[02:52] <ForgeAus> and I couldn't quite get the minimize/maximize "pips" to look coloured like some version of Aqua does...
[02:53] <ForgeAus> but that was probably more because I wasn't sure how to do so
[02:53] <ForgeAus> Baghira is HIGHLY configurable
[02:54] <ForgeAus> Jucato then don't look into AROS
[02:54] <ForgeAus> (it can run as an OS or like an app ("hosted") )
[02:54] <austin_> what happens in this chat room?
[02:54] <ForgeAus> AmigaOS3.1 compatible
[02:54] <ForgeAus> hehe mostly people ask for help with kubuntu
[02:55] <austin_> as i thort oh well
[02:55] <austin_> :)
[02:55] <ForgeAus> (erm sorry I forgot to put the API in there.. AmigaOS 3.1 API compatible)
[02:55] <lotusleaf> austin_: #kubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-offtopic for more fun :)
[02:55] <austin_> thanx lotusleaf :)
[02:56] <lotusleaf> austin_: yw :)
[02:56] <ForgeAus> if you use it as a native OS tho you have to use SFF or SFS as your partition type... which I don't think parted (and/or qtparted and/or gparted)  recognise
[02:56] <ForgeAus> but there are linux kernels with SFS and/or SFF built in...
[02:57] <ForgeAus> there doesn't seem to be much apps and stuff to actually DO in it sofar tho...
[02:59] <ForgeAus> strangely amiwm looks like more like the standard Commodore Amiga500 desktop but is hardly at all configurable, but AROS is like a suped up version that is very configurable... but doesn't run as a display manager... its either an OS of its own (native) or like an app (hosted) - like I mentioned before...
[03:07] <nagyv> are there any know memory problems with ubuntu? the past week it started to hand for unkown reasons. Although I have quite a lot of memory. (512swap, 1G RAM). I think it is related to KTorrent, but not sure, and don't know which logs to check.
[03:10] <nixclusive> hello everybody..
[03:10] <ForgeAus> um Jucato I think I just found out what you meant about GEdit
[03:10] <ForgeAus> its plugin interface makes it very nicely extensible
[03:10] <ForgeAus> and it also has built in syntax highlighting that I didn't notice
[03:10] <ForgeAus> (unless it was a plugin that was already on)
[03:11] <ForgeAus> hey nix
[03:11] <ForgeAus> sup?
[03:11] <nixclusive> very nice here.. how're u?
[03:12] <ForgeAus> nagyv  don't know if there is a memory log or if ktorrent keeps one but perhaps you could try monitorinng the system with ksysguard
[03:12] <ForgeAus> great nix..
[03:12] <nixclusive> just watching the channel scroll by.. please go ahead.
[03:12] <ForgeAus> (nix it is in the system menu somewhere)
[03:12] <ForgeAus> lol lag?
[03:12] <ForgeAus> yay! I think I got mandriva now!
[03:13] <ForgeAus> 98% of it sofar anyhow
[03:13] <ForgeAus> can't wait to mess with metisse
[03:13] <ForgeAus> hehe and hopefully confirm to myself why/how much I like Kubuntu better
[03:16] <chris_> #join kubuntu-cn
[03:17] <nagyv> hmm, it was not ktorrent. I had to restart again.
[03:18] <ForgeAus> nagyv ksysguard might be more helpful to you
[03:18] <ForgeAus> you can set monitors/graphs of things in it
[03:18] <ForgeAus> you can also use it (with root priveleges) to kill apps and stuff
[03:18] <vega__> i dont want kubuntu installation cd to open desktop and just want to begin installation. so do i have to download alternate cd
[03:18] <nagyv> ForgeAus: the problem is that it won't start once my system starts hanging
[03:19] <vega__> http://ftp.ticklers.org/releases.ubuntu.org/releases/kubuntu/edgy/kubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[03:19] <Jucato> vega__: the alternate install cd
[03:19] <ForgeAus> nagyv if your systems hanging it might give you a clue as to whats causing it to hang tho? ...
[03:19] <Jucato> vega__: if you don't have enough RAM to run the desktop CD
[03:20] <ForgeAus> I might check otu whats in the alternative CD
[03:20] <vega__> yes i think that was the problem
[03:20] <Jucato> ForgeAus: the same stuff, but Alternate CD is a text/ncurses-based installer with more install options
[03:21] <ForgeAus> more install options? what kinda options?
[03:21] <Jucato> ForgeAus: installing a command-line (X-less) system, OEM installation, expert installations, etc
[03:22] <ForgeAus> yeah well text/ncurses I figured would be command line... OEM doesn't apply and I'm certainly not an Expert but wouldn't have hurt to see what else the installer could have done
[03:22] <craftycorner> how can i check a dvd for corrupt files with out spending 6 hrs watching eaach video?
[03:22] <ForgeAus> (not that th eLiveCD installer ins't configurable enough (at least with the whole partitioning thing)
[03:23] <Jucato> ForgeAus: more of like being able to choose which modules are installed, where GRUB is installed to, RAID and LVM support, more filesystems to choose from
[03:24] <nagyv> I think this is the best info I could find: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4115/
[03:24] <ForgeAus> oh ok nothing I needed to worry about...  hmm except perhaps LVM
[03:24] <ForgeAus> whats that?
[03:25] <Jucato> !lvm
[03:25] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:25] <nagyv> this is a syslog
[03:25] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[03:26] <nixclusive> @BluesKaj Hello there..
[03:28] <BluesKaj> hi nixclusive
[03:33] <ForgeAus> Jucato thanx thats kewl I like LVM but I don't think I'll use it
[03:37] <akrus> how to change eth3->eth2 usage?
[03:40] <ForgeAus> grrr! I spent all day getting this mandriva iso and it dosn't work :(
[03:43] <devilsadvocate> is there any reasonably fast way of making everything on kde smaller?
[03:45] <LjL> devilsadvocate: look at the screen from further away
[03:45] <devilsadvocate> LjL, I'm not laughing
[03:46] <spawn57> devilsadvocate: everything, smaller?
[03:46] <LjL> good to know. anyway, you can make fonts smaller of course, and are your DPI set correctly?
[03:46] <devilsadvocate> LjL, ok.. let me put it this way. Is there any way to increase the efficieny of the screen real estate
[03:46] <LjL> you won't be able to make bitmaps smaller for sure, unless you chance the resolution
[03:46] <h3sp4wn> akrus: could use ifrename or maybe a udev rule in /etc/udev/rules.d
[03:46] <devilsadvocate> as in fonts, icons, panels, the works
[03:46] <LjL> devilsadvocate: probably, how does http://ljl.byethost14.com/annotatedkde.png look?
[03:46] <devilsadvocate> im at 1024x768
[03:46] <spawn57> shrink the fonts, that helps alot
[03:47] <LjL> that's in 1400x1050 note
[03:47] <LjL> so you probably want smaller fonts (or, better, lower DPI) on 1024x768
[03:47] <ubuntu> hay all how does one mount a linux parititon rw in a live cd?
[03:47] <devilsadvocate> can I lower the dpi manually?
[03:48] <LjL> devilsadvocate: for starters, do a  xdpyinfo | grep dimension , pick up a ruler, and see if they're correct
[03:48] <spawn57> LjL: heheh that desktop looks almost like mine
[03:48] <LjL> google can convert from inches to millimeters and back easily, if you don't have millimeters on the ruler
[03:48] <LjL> spawn57: as in the hideous amount of randomly scatter icons is concerned? :P
[03:49] <devilsadvocate> hmm.. thats one big monito LjL
[03:49] <spawn57> naw as in the apple os menu, with teh kde programs button on the top left, and the storage panel applet, recycle bin, system tray and time on the top right
[03:49] <LjL> mine? not really, 17", i just keep a high resolution
[03:50] <spawn57> your res is higher than mine heh
[03:50] <LjL> spawn57: ah yes. the mac-style menu is probably the one toy feature i love the most in KDE
[03:50] <LjL> even though i never was a Mac user
[03:50] <spawn57> same
[03:50] <spawn57> same!
[03:50] <spawn57> haha
[03:50] <LjL> i was an amiga user though, and that had top-menus too (though a bit different)
[03:50] <larson9999> mac style menu?
[03:51] <zorglu_> !adept
[03:51] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:51] <LjL> larson9999: yeah, you know, with the current program's menu bar being at the top of the screen instead of in a window... look at my screenshot and you'll understand
[03:51] <elyon225> What is the chmod command to change a directory (and all subdirs) to allow ALL users to read/write to it?
[03:51] <LjL> right click on desktop / configure desktop / mac-os style menubar
[03:51] <spawn57> oh really?
[03:51] <LjL> elyon225: chmod -R a+rw directory
[03:52] <spawn57> never really used amiga, tried out BeOS though but couldn't do much with it
[03:52] <elyon225> LjL: I swear I've tried that (I fumbled with all kinds of combinations).  The --help isn't very helpful in that regard ;)
[03:52] <LjL> spawn57: BeOS really has very little do with with AmigaOS, despite some claims to the contrary
[03:52] <LjL> Ubotu, tell elyon225 about permissions | elyon225, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:52] <LjL> you're right, the manpage isn't too informative either
[03:53] <spawn57> LjL: you dont' seem to make use of virtual windows though
[03:53] <elyon225> LjL: But that worked spendidly, thank you.
[03:53] <LjL> spawn57: what are virtual windows?
[03:53] <larson9999> LjL: oh, i understand.  just can't stand that :)
[03:53] <spawn57> you know Desktop 1, Desktop 2, Destkop 3 ...etc
[03:53] <spawn57> ..hmm virtual desktops I mean
[03:54] <LjL> larson9999: well, we all love KDE's configurability. but it has at least two advantages: 1) you waste less screen estate 2) you have "infinite-height" menu buttons to click on, you don't have to aim with the mouse
[03:54] <LjL> spawn57: ah - no, never quite liked that. on the Amiga i used something similar, but it was different enough
[03:55] <LjL> the AmigaOS had screens, and "big" applications normally started on their own screen. but it wasn't really the same as virtual desktops in X
[03:55] <spawn57> ah, I not too fond of'em but I do make use of it, to save screen space, I have too many windwos open
[03:55] <LjL> spawn57: well, to be honest my long time of Windows usage has gotten me into the habit of keeping everything maximized
[03:56] <LjL> so in a way i do still have different "screens", simply in the form of maximized windows
[03:56] <LjL> devilsadvocate: found out if the current DPI settings were correct?
[03:57] <spawn57> LjL: i see
[03:57] <larson9999> LjL: i'm not partial to kde.  i use kde, gnome, and xfce with no particular preference.  but i do make them all look pretty much the same.  the windows look that i got accustomed to over the years.  i too keep everything maximized.  and don't like tabbed browsing because i'm used to alt+tabing.  :)
[03:57] <devilsadvocate> LjL, looking for a ruler :|
[03:57] <ubuntu> can anyone help me mount my linux partition with write access..
[03:57] <devilsadvocate> but they look ok
[03:57] <ubuntu> i keep getting access is denied
[03:58] <spawn57> LjL: can't do that with things like kopete though..well you can, but I hate to
[03:58] <LjL> devilsadvocate: well, if they look ok, then probably you should just decrease font size. also, can't you set a higher resolution? 1024x768 really is a bit claustrophobic for today's KDE, honestly
[03:58] <devilsadvocate> LjL, close enouh. a centimeter or so wrong
[03:58] <spawn57> ubuntu : is it an windows ntfs partition? or a linux ext3 partition?
[03:58] <ubuntu> it is a linux ext2 partition
[03:59] <devilsadvocate> i just found out that i cant increase res beyond 1024. last time i tried my screen scrolled
[03:59] <ubuntu> i am running off of the kubuntu live cd, at the moment and need write access to the ext2 partition
[03:59] <LjL> devilsadvocate: not even 1152x864?
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> if you have mounted it you will be able to write to it with sudo
[03:59] <devilsadvocate> btw, i also realized that i'm at a wrong refresh rate
[03:59] <devilsadvocate> i have a feeling i have driver issues.. and that too with an intel 815 :|
[04:00] <spawn57> you need to mount it with rw options, that's -o rw I think
[04:00] <LjL> devilsadvocate: well if the refresh rates are set wrong for your monitor, then it's possible that higher resolutions don't work even if they *should* work
[04:00] <LjL> devilsadvocate: do you have your monitor's manual or specs?
[04:00] <LjL> devilsadvocate: ideally, you need the horizontal and vertical sync rates. though if you don't have them, they should be easily enough guessable
[04:00] <ubuntu> using the console i can make a folder, why can't i use konqueror, or is there a way to make knoqueror sudo
[04:00] <spawn57> yeap, kdesu konqueror
[04:00] <LjL> ubuntu: kdesu konqueror
[04:01] <devilsadvocate> LjL, i think i have the manual. gimme a minute to check
[04:01] <ubuntu> sweet!
[04:02] <LjL> ubuntu: don't be too fond of using konqueror as root though, only when it's really necessary
[04:02] <h3sp4wn> It is never necessary
[04:02] <LjL> h3sp4wn: if you are willing to use the shell, sure
[04:03] <devilsadvocate> LjJ, "For DV playback and smooth video playback, we recommend the following resolutio
[04:03] <devilsadvocate>  efresh rates: 1024 x 768/75 Hz or lower.
[04:03] <devilsadvocate> " .. Its an old monitor :P
[04:03] <ubuntu> kdesu worked, I OWE  you all. I have no clue where i would be if i didn't have this channel
[04:03] <devilsadvocate> and thats all it says
[04:03] <LjL> devilsadvocate: that *probably* means that 1024x768 is the only one that can go as high as 75Hz... still, might not really be the case. and if you can get 1152x864 at, say, 72Hz, i think it's a better compromise
[04:04] <ubuntu__> live cd is awesome... just burnt my hard drive so have to stick with kubuntu-live for a while.... :D
[04:04] <LjL> devilsadvocate: but try to find if there's the horizontal and vertical sync rates specified anywhere
[04:04] <LjL> devilsadvocate: should be four figures
[04:04] <devilsadvocate> LjL, I agree, esp. since  its now using 60 Hz
[04:04] <LjL> devilsadvocate: 60Hz is an eye killer
[04:04] <ubuntu> ubuntu_burnt harddrive = not fun times
[04:04] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu__: there is faster ones if you are doing to be using it alot
[04:05] <devilsadvocate> no, the manual doesnt have sync rates
[04:05] <devilsadvocate> its the manual to my laptop, which i was able to download
[04:06] <devilsadvocate> not the monitor per se
[04:06] <h3sp4wn> 60Hz is fine on an lcd
[04:06] <h3sp4wn> (recommended by the manual of mine)
[04:07] <lotusleaf> 60hz is like pouring lemon juice into the eyes by strobe light
[04:07] <devilsadvocate> :)
[04:07] <doubledpsycho> i blame windows for burning my hard drive... didnt use that piece of **** for months and a single login killed my harddrive... at least i got rid of winows... too bad linux had to burn aswel
[04:08] <devilsadvocate> how can i force the monitor to higher states? xorg.conf?
[04:08] <ubuntu__> i insert kubuntu desktop cd and want to install kubuntu cd Exec=kdesu --nonewdcop ubiquity kde-ui
[04:08] <Rumo_> yes devilsadvocate
[04:08] <devilsadvocate> hm. hope this works :P
[04:08] <ubuntu__> is this the command to install kubuntu from konsole
[04:09] <akrus> someone to help? :)
[04:09] <akrus> KDE stopped mounting SD cards & CDs
[04:09] <akrus> and some Card Reader help needed :3
[04:09] <h3sp4wn> lotusleaf: only on a crt
[04:09] <LjL> devilsadvocate: oh wait, laptop? so an LCD?
[04:09] <LjL> then Hz doesn't count
[04:09] <devilsadvocate> LjL, yeah
[04:09] <lotusleaf> h3sp4wn: ah
[04:10] <LjL> 60Hz should be fine mostly
[04:10] <doubledpsycho> a had a weird bug with SD cards... they did mount on insert, but alsa hung along with that = no sound
[04:10] <devilsadvocate> is the i810 the friver i need for an intel 815, or can i try to use something else?
[04:10] <LjL> devilsadvocate: just do this then,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , hit Enter on all of the defaults (they'll be fine) except for resolution and sync rates
[04:11] <LjL> devilsadvocate: when asked about sync rates, select the "medium" option, and tell it that you can get 1280x960 at 60Hz (try that - if you don't get a working screen, try 1152x864 at 60Hz)
[04:11] <devilsadvocate> ok. thanks LjL . I'll let you know if it works
[04:11] <LjL> and of course, select 1280x960 or 1152x864 respectively as the highest resolution checked, in the resolution selection screen
[04:12] <LjL> devilsadvocate: if you have previously modified xorg.conf *manually*, this will possibly wipe out the changes. but it'll make a backup in /etc/X11
[04:12] <devilsadvocate> no.. i made no manual changes this time. I managed to kill X last time :D
[04:12] <h3sp4wn> devilsadvocate: On i810 maybe you want the modesetting driver
[04:12] <LjL> devilsadvocate: you're comfortable with using a textmode console, i suppose, to restore it if things go bad and you don't get an X screen?
[04:13] <devilsadvocate> LjL, sure
[04:13] <devilsadvocate> np
[04:13] <devilsadvocate> h3sp4wn, what is this driver called?
[04:13] <devilsadvocate> in the list
[04:13] <LjL> ok then, play around as much as you like, as long as you know how to restore the backup ;) and it's nothing more than a "sudo cp" command
[04:13] <h3sp4wn> xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting
[04:13] <h3sp4wn> !info xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting
[04:14] <ubotu> Package xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[04:14] <h3sp4wn> !info xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting feisty
[04:14] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver (modesetting). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.5.git20061014.ac1-1ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 153 kB, installed size 420 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)
[04:14] <h3sp4wn> backport from feisty
[04:14] <LjL> h3sp4wn: the modesetting driver? what does that mean?
[04:14] <devilsadvocate> hmm... i'll be upgrading to fiesty on wednesday anyway
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> LjL: you don't need 815 resolution or whatever its called
[04:15] <BluesKaj> devilsadvocate, why upgrade ...are you a developer ?
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> and if you switch from using the onboard lcd to another it makes that stuff easier
[04:15] <devilsadvocate> no BluesKaj , but i like the breakage :)
[04:15] <BluesKaj> :)
[04:16] <LjL> hm i guess there's something about this card that i don't have a clue about
[04:17] <devilsadvocate> the usual aspect ration is 3:4 right?
[04:17] <LjL> 4:3
[04:18] <BluesKaj> some of the new larger lcd scrns are 16x9 , but he std is still 4x3
[04:19] <devilsadvocate> i wont see changes in xorg.conf reflect until i restart X right?
[04:19] <LjL> devilsadvocate: right
[04:20] <LjL> devilsadvocate: and logging off and in again is *not* restarting, for the record
[04:20] <LjL> log off and then ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:20] <devilsadvocate> k
[04:23] <ubuntu> what is the command to activate swap partition
[04:23] <ubuntu>  /dev/hda6
[04:24] <LjL> ubuntu: sudo swapon -a
[04:24] <LjL> will activate every listed swap partition
[04:25] <willys_fueguino> hello, I need wom help here: the task-bar appears when kde it's starting and then hides and I can't get to it
[04:26] <willys_fueguino> *some
[04:26] <DSG01> hi
[04:26] <Jucato> willys_fueguino: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol" then go to Desktop -> Panels and check/reset the position of the panel
[04:27] <DSG01> what is better ubuntu or Debian ??
[04:27] <esaym> where is the defualt cgi-bin in apache2? /usr/lib/cgi-bin?
[04:28] <ubuntu> ljl i am using installation cd  i think that command did not work
[04:28] <willys_fueguino> Jucato: thanks...
[04:29] <ubuntu> i open kinfocenter
[04:29] <posingaspopular> jucato rocks!
[04:29] <Jucato> O.o
[04:29] <ubuntu> swap is not activated
[04:29] <lotusleaf> "Listen. Discuss. Learn. Ubuntu in action." http://www.ubuntulive.com/
[04:29] <willys_fueguino> the thing is that misteriously one day to another the panel disappeared and I didn't know why :-/
[04:30] <ubuntu> the command did not give any error
[04:31] <ubuntu> so will i have to start kde again to activate swap
[04:32] <LjL> ubuntu, well, the CD will only use swap if it detects there is a swap partition present, i believe. actually, it probably does weird things with swap
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu is quite a lousy live cd
[04:33] <victor__> ?
[04:34] <ubuntu> it says not implemented
[04:35] <h3sp4wn> ideally you want the livecd copied into swap so its not running off the cd - at least kanotix / sidux does this
[04:35] <akrus> Jucato: could you help me with some messages?
[04:36] <Jucato> akrus: I can try. no promises :)
[04:36] <akrus> Jucato: any help will be appreciated hehe
[04:36] <akrus> [33450.560000]  attempt to access beyond end of device
[04:36] <akrus> [33450.560000]  sdc: rw=0, want=2128749, limit=1967616
[04:36] <victor__> hey
[04:36] <victor__> i need some help
[04:36] <akrus> this happens five times with different want=
[04:36] <victor__> i mounted a samba share
[04:36] <akrus> (that's dmesg)
[04:36] <Jucato> uh oh...
[04:36] <victor__> but i dont have write access to it
[04:36] <Jucato> sorry, I don't do hardware :(
[04:36] <akrus> that's when SD card is mounted
[04:37] <akrus> ok maybe another msg
[04:37] <akrus> Read 32 bytes at<PHONE_NUMBER>:Input/output error
[04:37] <akrus> that's when fsck /dev/hdc1
[04:37] <akrus> with another SD card it's ok
[04:37] <Snake> Hey guys
[04:37] <akrus> on PocketPC/vmware+windows everything seems ok
[04:37] <draik> Hello everyone
[04:38] <draik> How is everyone doing today?
[04:38] <akrus> draik: seems ok :)
[04:38] <Jucato> hi draik
[04:38] <Snake> Who knows a thing or 2 about grub?
[04:38] <akrus> draik: and how are you? :)
[04:38] <draik> Hello Jucato, akrus
[04:38] <Jucato> akrus: sorry, totally clueles.. :(
[04:38] <akrus> Snake: for example?
[04:38] <akrus> Jucato: it's really hard to live without PocketPC copy :(
[04:38] <Jucato> hi Snake!
[04:38] <Snake> I'm trying to restore it after I just installed linux, but I dont know what to use for hd(x.x)
[04:39] <Snake> hey Jucato, how ya been??
[04:39] <draik> akrus: I'm doing well. I have Beryl on my desktop running smoother than silk and I'm in the process of successfully recovering my laptop to an older configuration
[04:39] <Snake> s/linux/windows
[04:39] <Jucato> Snake: doing fine. doing fine :)
[04:39] <Jucato> !grub
[04:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:39] <Jucato> Snake: you tried that ^^
[04:39] <Snake> tried it
[04:39] <draik> akrus: How about you? How are you doing today?
[04:39] <Snake> I get grub when I boot, but then it says the devices cannot be found
[04:40] <draik> Hey Jucato, I can't seem to mount my cdrom drive in Kubuntu. It says it's hdc, but it won't mount it
[04:40] <draik> any clues?
[04:40] <Jucato> Snake: that's when you've selected the menu entry for Ubuntu kernel?
[04:40] <akrus> draik: everything sucks, I cannot connect my SD card to Linux whereas Windows under vmware mounts it ok
[04:40] <akrus> draik: error messages?
[04:40] <devilsadvocate> LjL, no luck. Monitor went blank
[04:40] <Jucato> draik: you don't mount cd drives manually. they're automounted when you put in something
[04:41] <draik> akrus: Is it a known bug? I would go to http://www.google.com/linux and see if there is a known issue and fix
[04:41] <devilsadvocate> h3sp4wn, you were saying something about 815resolution?
[04:41] <LjL> devilsadvocate: tried 1182x864 too?
[04:41] <LjL> 1152 that is
[04:41] <devilsadvocate> LjL, i am going to do that in a little while
[04:42] <draik> akrus: The error message I'm getting is that /dev/hdc is not a device
[04:42] <draik> or similar
[04:42] <devilsadvocate> thought i'd google around a bit first
[04:42] <Tox> how to make gnome tray netstat tool visible on kde panel or tray ?
[04:42] <akrus> something new to me o_O
[04:42] <draik> I just popped out the CD that was in my laptop and popped it back in. I hope it reads
[04:42] <LjL> Tox: hm, i think it should be, tray protocol is standardized
[04:42] <Tox> twhat do u mean ?
[04:43] <Jucato> Tox: which means you can't use gnome panel applets on kicker (kde panel). and vice versa
[04:43] <marc__> hi
[04:45] <Tox> LjL: then can you advice me a tool to monitor netstat and directly configure network as it is on gnome netstat ?
[04:45] <LjL> Tox: i mean that GNOME programs that put icons in the tray should work with the KDE tray, too, and viceversa
[04:45] <Tox> LjL: yes i got it
[04:45] <LjL> Tox: dunno, knetworkapplet?
[04:45] <LjL> !knetworkapplet
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetworkapplet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <LjL> uh?
[04:46] <LjL> whops sorry
[04:46] <LjL> !knetworkmanager
[04:46] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 213 kB, installed size 1448 kB
[04:46] <Tox> LjL: :) tnx ill try it
[04:46] <LjL> but, perhaps that's not a tray applet... since i somehow read "applet" where it said "manager" =)
[04:46] <LjL> yeah it's an applet
[04:47] <Tox> LjL: hmm .. i can't find it
[04:48] <LjL> Tox: can't find the package, or can't find the program after installing it?
[04:48] <Tox> LjL: oh ...i need install it ? i thought it's default package
[04:48] <Tox> well .. trying
[04:49] <LjL> no it isn't
[04:49] <Tox> ok
[04:50] <craftycorner> having trouble burning cd/dvd's
[04:50] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4127/  over look the ">"
[04:50] <craftycorner> that's what the log looks like
[04:52] <Tox> LjL: i found it on synaptic it wasn't instaled
[04:52] <Tox> LjL: tnx!
[04:52] <craftycorner> something is wrong with my buffer...i think
[04:52] <draik> Jucato: It won't read it
[04:52] <draik> My desktop will, but not my laptop
[04:53] <Jucato> oh...
[04:54] <draik> Hmmm...
[04:54] <draik> It says "No medium found"
[04:54] <draik> I placed a DVD in a CD/DVD rom... ???
[04:55] <craftycorner> did u unzip?
[04:55] <craftycorner> if it was downloaded, I'll bet my ram it was a rar or zip
[04:56] <craftycorner> oh crap, got to go
[04:59] <devilsadvocate> how do i change resolution from the command line? my kcontrol is messed up somehow :|
[04:59] <Jucato> !xconfig | devilsadvocate
[04:59] <ubotu> devilsadvocate: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[04:59] <ForgeAus> http://www.mslinux.org/
[05:00] <devilsadvocate> can it _change_ my resolution? i've just reconfigured xorg
[05:00] <draik> Jucato: Figured it out
[05:01] <Jucato> draik: wow that was fast
[05:01] <draik> Jucato: It takes a while, but the issue was that I wasn't fast enough to realize my mistake of idiocy
[05:02] <Jucato> oh? what was the problem, btw?
[05:02] <draik> The dvd-rom in my laptop is from 1999/2000... it can read DVDs, but has issues with DVD+RW
[05:02] <draik> well, DVD+/-RW
[05:03] <Jucato> aaah
[05:03] <draik> outdated tech
[05:03] <Jucato> :)
[05:04] <draik> I'm going to save up and buy my fiance a nice laptop and I'm going to put things on there that will ENRAGE her sister who just got a new computer back in November when I went with them to go buy their desktop.
[05:04] <Jucato> hah
[05:05] <draik> I really don't like the way my fiance's sister is treating my fiance so I'm going to beat her at what she thinks she's better at
[05:05] <Jucato> lol
[05:05] <Jucato> :P
[05:06] <BluesKaj> that'll just make her more angry
[05:06] <BluesKaj> draik, she obviously has something to prove to you
[05:06] <Minataku> !xrandr | devilsadvocate
[05:06] <ubotu> devilsadvocate: xrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 60 kB
[05:06] <draik> BluesKaj: True. But the point is that she will be stranded at home while my fiance and I go out at nights since her bf is now miles away
[05:06] <draik> BluesKaj: I doubt that
[05:07] <Minataku> Why nobody thought of that already is beyond me
[05:07] <draik> Goodnight Jucato
[05:07] <devilsadvocate> thanks Minataku
[05:07] <Minataku> np
[05:07] <BluesKaj> oooh, nasty nasty :)
[05:07] <Minataku> xrandr has saved me before
[05:07] <h3sp4wn> Minataku: doesn't work with intel
[05:07] <draik> Yes, I know
[05:07] <Minataku> h3sp4wn: It's pure X
[05:07] <h3sp4wn> Minataku: Unless you use the modesetting driver
[05:07] <Minataku> It works period
[05:07] <Jucato> night draik!
[05:07] <h3sp4wn> Minataku: Doesn't - and of that I am certain
[05:07] <BluesKaj> sleep well, Jucato
[05:08] <jamesarthur> are ubuntu repos just slow today?? i rebooted and they are still only 12 K.............
[05:08] <Jucato> you guys throwing me out already? lol
[05:08] <draik> lol
[05:08] <Minataku> h3sp4wn: Hm.... are you positive?
[05:08] <devilsadvocate> hmm... it outputs my resolutions. let me try the options
[05:08] <BluesKaj> thought you were gonna sack out , Jucato
[05:08] <Jucato> I said I was preparing to :P
[05:08] <BluesKaj> OK
[05:08] <h3sp4wn> Minataku: that is why 815resolution or whatever is needed
[05:08] <draik> well, we're preparing to boot you then :P
[05:08] <Minataku> Because I have a cheap Trident card in Piyoko here and it works just fine
[05:09] <Minataku> h3sp4wn: That sucks
[05:09] <h3sp4wn> Minataku: modesetting driver works fine but you have to backport it from feisty if you want it
[05:09] <BluesKaj> the capslock script is defeated after every apt-get update , it seems
[05:09] <devilsadvocate> 815resoluion is not in the repos
[05:10] <Minataku> h3sp4wn: Nah, I use Gentoo, I just didn't know that xrandr failed on Intel cards
[05:10] <devilsadvocate> !855resolution
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 855resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <Minataku> Thanks for the tip, h3sp4wn, sorry for giving you crap about it XD
[05:10] <abattoir> info !915resolution
[05:11] <LjL> !915resolution
[05:11] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[05:11] <abattoir> devilsadvocate: i think that replaces it
[05:11] <devilsadvocate> abattoir, yeah. found it. thanks
[05:11] <Minataku> devilsadvocate: If you have an Intel chipset then use that instead XD
[05:12] <Minataku> Otherwise xrandr should be sufficient
[05:12] <angasule> help! I need somebody, not just anybody! One of the accounts (only one) of another computer decided it doesn't like the keyboard, I can only write 'f' and 'F' (using the left shift only), keyboard lights don't work
[05:14] <Minataku> angasule: Check that the owner of that account didn't do something stupid like try to change his default keymap or something
[05:14] <Minataku> Other than that, check if "u" works... if it does, he's telling you something and strike the account
[05:14] <Minataku> XD
[05:14] <angasule> Minataku: hahahaha I'll check the keymap, my dad probably screwed it up 'accidentally'
[05:15] <Minataku> lol
[05:15] <devilsadvocate> 915 resolution dos dot work with the intel 815
[05:15] <devilsadvocate> does not*
[05:16] <jp> #mediaplace
[05:16] <jp> #aivanet
[05:17] <drkm> how do I mount a windows shared folder from ubuntu?
[05:18] <Minataku> Hey, what programs give access to Yahoo Messenger service?
[05:18] <Jucato> Kopete
[05:19] <Minataku> Jucato: You're like me when I say I'm going to sleep, aren't you
[05:19] <Minataku> lol
[05:19] <Jucato> yes
[05:19] <Jucato> I'm about to go really in a few minutes
[05:19] <Tm_T> Jucato: Yeah, sure you do.
[05:19] <Jucato> just waited for something to finish downloading
[05:20] <BluesKaj> Jucato, are you in SG ?
[05:20] <BluesKaj> or manila
[05:20] <devilsadvocate> Minataku, kopete, gaim
[05:20] <Jucato> BluesKaj: near manila
[05:20] <BluesKaj> right
[05:20] <BluesKaj> late there now
[05:21] <drkm> how do I mount a windows shared folder from ubuntu? ?
[05:21] <Jucato> 12:20 AM
[05:21] <BluesKaj> not too late
[05:21] <Jucato> for me it is :P
[05:21] <spawn57> it's only 12:30 ..
[05:21] <angasule> ok, I found out *all* keys work, but only in the keyboard repeat, that is, nothing happens on first press, I have to hold them down till the autorepeat kicks in
[05:22] <lameriuga> HELP, can somebody help me to install yahoo messenger on kubuntu
[05:22] <BluesKaj> what's the command to see the ntfs partition
[05:22] <angasule> I disabled auto repeat, and that didn't solve it (it just 'repeats' a single time, but I have a 1 second delay anyway)
[05:22] <angasule> !yahoo messenger
[05:22] <BluesKaj> lameriuga, try amsn ...it should work
[05:22] <spawn57> lameriuga: or you can use kopete
[05:23] <angasule> BluesKaj: amsn does yahoo as well? it's uglier than the original MSN anyway
[05:23] <lameriuga> spawn57:  on this computer will work more users
[05:24] <spawn57> lameriuga: with more than one user? kopete? as in more than one account?
[05:25] <lameriuga> spawn57: how to put on kopete for each account passs
[05:25] <lameriuga> spawn57:  I will use this comp on insternet cafe
[05:26] <spawn57> lameriuga: settings -> configure
[05:26] <spawn57> lameriuga: click on 'accounts' on  the left side, then hit new to add the account you want.
[05:27] <BluesKaj> you can use your existing yahoo login , for example<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:28] <lameriuga> yes and
[05:28] <angasule> I have a particular account on a computer, in which the keyboard only works through autorepeat, upon hitting a key nothing happens, initially, until the autorepeat kicks in
[05:29] <lameriuga> spawn57:  and how to sign out, to sign in anther user
[05:29] <lotusleaf> lameriuga: there's always this if you want to use it: http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php
[05:29] <BluesKaj> !amsn
[05:29] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[05:29] <lotusleaf> lameriuga: see the instructions on that page for "Debian Linux"
[05:29] <lotusleaf> lameriuga: it works on Ubuntu, though I recommend something else
[05:30] <lameriuga> lotusleaf: it give me an error
[05:30] <spawn57> change the account's settings.
[05:30] <lotusleaf> lameriuga: have you tried gaim? #gaim
[05:31] <lameriuga> lotusleaf:  no
[05:31] <BluesKaj> what about kopete ?
[05:31] <spawn57> he's using that now
[05:31] <BluesKaj> for yahoo
[05:31] <spawn57> ...hmm kopete isn't really designed for the whole public use sign in/sign out use
[05:32] <ForgeAus> has anyone here ever edited/added a wikipedia page?
[05:32] <ForgeAus> to en.wikipedia.org's wiki I mean
[05:32] <lotusleaf> ForgeAus: #wikipedia
[05:32] <ForgeAus> I know I come from there
[05:33] <lameriuga> spawn57:  yes and I need ymessenger for public
[05:33] <spawn57> lameriuga: i don't know one that you can use..
[05:33] <Minataku> Perhaps some kind of a read-only home dir for public accounts that doesn't save any data?
[05:34] <Minataku> Well, read-only would fail but...
[05:34] <angasule> Minataku: delete on logout or something like that
[05:34] <Minataku> I'm sure there has to be some way to set up KDE for public use, like wipe the directory Yeah
[05:34] <lameriuga> spawn57: i can use this  http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php but I can`t install it
[05:34] <Minataku> Then autologin after it's replaced as "public" or whatever
[05:35] <lameriuga> spawn57: I`am new to linux :)
[05:35] <angasule> I really need some help :( I have a particular account on a computer, in which the keyboard only works through autorepeat, upon hitting a key nothing happens, initially, until the autorepeat kicks in
[05:35] <spawn57> try downloading the debian file and installing it, it might work =S
[05:36] <Minataku> angasule: Sorry, that issue stumps me >.<
[05:36] <angasule> I'll go poke that computer till it gives up
[05:36] <Minataku> lol
[05:38] <BluesKaj> i wonder if that yahoo debian file will install
[05:38] <spawn57> damn that doesn't work, i just tried installing it heh
[05:38] <spawn57> dependencies
[05:39] <znugb1> how do you see quicktime movies in Firefox on Kubuntu?
[05:40] <steven_> can someone help me with my sound
[05:40] <steven_> its being weird
[05:40] <steven_> its like...overdriving my guitar when i plug it in..although the regular sound for music and stuff is fine
[05:41] <GiiX> how large files do the filesystem ext3 handle?
[05:43] <goodthing> GiiX: -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[05:43] <lameriuga> lotusleaf: can you help me to install yahoo messenger from  http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php
[05:43] <steven_> can someone help me with my sound? its being weird...its overdriving my guitar when i plug it in...although the regular sound (music and stuff) is normal..
[05:43] <lameriuga> lotusleaf:  i tried but I cant
[05:43] <lameriuga> :)
[05:43] <lotusleaf> lameriuga: you said you received an error, correct?
[05:43] <angasule> solved it!
[05:44] <lameriuga> lotusleaf: yes
[05:44] <lotusleaf> lameriuga: the instructions are pretty simple, the same for installing any .deb file manually
[05:44] <lotusleaf> lameriuga: I cannot help you any further, the instructions say it all, I have no experience with it
[05:44] <angasule> Minataku: 'slow keys' was activated through a gesture, I disabled it and gestures (and made fun of him while I was at it)
[05:44] <lotusleaf> lameriuga: in fact I recommend you use something else like gaim
[05:44] <angasule> thanks for all the fish!
[05:45] <lameriuga> lotusleaf: ok, where can i download gaim
[05:45] <lotusleaf> lameriuga: open synaptic and search for gaim and install it
[05:45] <lotusleaf> lameriuga: or adept if you use that
[05:45] <lotusleaf> lameriuga: or at the command line sudo apt-get install gaim
[05:46] <lameriuga> lotusleaf: ok, thx
[05:46] <lotusleaf> lameriuga: see #gaim for gaim specific questions, or #ubuntu if no one in here answers
[05:46] <lotusleaf> lameriuga: yw
[05:47] <GiiX2> goodthing: thanks :)
[05:50] <BluesKaj> ok, yahoo needs xlibs pkg in order to run on edgy
[05:51] <oem> ciao a tutti
[05:52] <oem> d
[05:55] <draik> !beryl
[05:55] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:04] <frojnd> \o hello :)
[06:05] <znugb1> how do you see quicktime movies in Firefox on Kubuntu?
[06:06] <BjoeHrn> Hey
[06:06] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[06:06] <BjoeHrn> Does anyone can help me to start gimp correctly? It starts after a system upgrade only with black windows
[06:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:07] <BjoeHrn> I get this error: http://nopaste.biz/?12104
[06:07] <BluesKaj> !quicktime
[06:07] <dvazquez> i am working in backporting nagios2, but i have a this problem
[06:08] <dvazquez> dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${source:Version}
[06:08] <dvazquez> dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${binary:Version}
[06:08] <dvazquez> dpkg-deb: parse error, in file `debian/nagios2/DEBIAN/control' near line 6 package `nagios2':
[06:08] <dvazquez>  `Depends' field, reference to `nagios2-common': error in version: version string is empty
[06:08] <dvazquez> any clue?
[06:09] <BluesKaj> znugb1, the mplayer plugin handle squicktime , http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
[06:09] <znugb1> BluesKaj: thank you!
[06:09] <BluesKaj> yer welcome znugb1
[06:10] <frojnd> Where can I find this plugin for firefox? Unknown plugin (application/x-mplayer2) this is when I wanna listen music (sample) through amazon...
[06:10] <frojnd> when I click on an icon of windows media player
[06:13] <BluesKaj> frojnd, same as above , http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
[06:14] <jmichaelx> !compiz
[06:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:15] <theline> Hi... anyone know why KDE prints all apps except from OpenOffice?
[06:22] <Bon3-Crush3r> salu tout le monde je vien d'installer kubuntu sur mon ordinateur en tant que 2nd systme d'xploitation et je voudrais savoir si il vous ne conetriez pas un bon tuto pour commenc sous linux ??
[06:22] <redelk> Hi for all
[06:22] <redelk> someone from Brazil?
[06:23] <jhutchins> !br
[06:24] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:24] <jhutchins> Not a patient one I guess.
[06:25] <theline> Anyone know why KDE won't print in OpenOfice but prints all other apps?
[06:26] <lerva> just a little question.. how I can use konqueror as a root user?
[06:26] <jhutchins> lerva: Why?
[06:27] <lerva> just to overwrite my firefox bookmark.html with other one
[06:27] <lerva> I know how to that on konsole, just eager to know how to do it with konqueror
[06:27] <jhutchins> theline: Not sure, but I've seen at least one version of OO where you have to set the printer up in OO itself instead of relying on the one configured for your sytem.  It seems to me there's a utility to do so, it's in the docs.
[06:28] <jhutchins> lerva: Shouldn't have anything to do with root.  If it's "your" file, you should have write/delete permissions.
[06:29] <jhutchins> lerva: I'm not trying to be elitist or secretive with you, it's just that there are good reasons not to run any GUI thing as root, and if you need to do something as root, doing it from the command line usually requires a little bit clearer idea of what you're actually doing.
[06:29] <mce> can i ask you how to download install kde 3.5.6
[06:29] <lerva> the file I need to overwrite is owned by root
[06:30] <jhutchins> lerva: Hah!  See, you've already been running this as root that you shouldn't have!
[06:30] <lerva> and I can't do that... I can edit it if i right click --> edit as root.
[06:30] <lerva> I have already done something wrong? :)
[06:31] <lerva> my first weekend with linux :)
[06:32] <jatos> hey
[06:33] <jatos> I am trying to use a compile they uses LD (FreeBASIC), and LD chucks up the error cannot find -lc
[06:33] <jhutchins> mce: Somebody needs to update the bot for 3.5.6, take a look at this and see if you can figure hot to do it:
[06:33] <jhutchins> !kde-latest
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde-latest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <kristjan> is it possible to make my own bin folder in my home; so that I can run stuff that is there like I can do with /usr/bin ?
[06:34] <jhutchins> !latestkde
[06:34] <ubotu> The latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[06:34] <jhutchins> gr, not the factoid I want. sorry.
[06:35] <Eruantalon> Is there an irc channel for lirc somewhere?
[06:35] <jhutchins> Eruantalon: There is one, but nobody's in it.
[06:35] <phpnub> anyone ever have Xorg not create a cursor but still be able to use the mouse?
[06:39] <gan|y|med> hi
[06:40] <Eruantalon> jhutchins: How do I find out wether there are any plans to release a stable version anytime soon?
[06:40] <jhutchins> Eruantalon: I'd look for their web site.
[06:41] <Eruantalon> I can't find any good information
[06:41] <jhutchins> Eruantalon: Last time I looked at LIRC there wasn't much activity, it was pretty much up to the user to fix the code himself, but that was quite a while ago.
[06:41] <jatos> is their any Synaptic like package manager that uses QT?
[06:42] <jatos> because I find QT really irritating but I don't want multiple APIs in use as it slows down my system
[06:42] <Eruantalon> My problem is that in feisty lirc is broken because the current stable version is broken with 2.6.20 kernel but it IS working with cvs. But i don't think the cvs version will be part of stable feisty?
[06:43] <h3sp4wn> jatos: If you hate qt then use gnome
[06:43] <Eruantalon> jatos: adept?
[06:43] <jatos> sorry, I mean't to say Adept
[06:43] <anonymeeee> can anyone recommend a good antivirus for ubuntu?
[06:43] <jatos> please excuse mixing the names up...
[06:44] <hatta> use aptitude
[06:44] <jatos> anonymeeee: why do you need an antivirus?
[06:44] <nagyv> !antivirus | anonymeeee
[06:44] <ubotu> anonymeeee: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[06:44] <h3sp4wn> Eruantalon: 2.6.20 is not even released -
[06:44] <anonymeeee> I download files on my ubuntu box then transport them to my windows box
[06:44] <jatos> ah, www.grisoft.com
[06:44] <Eruantalon> h3sp4wn: Feisty.
[06:44] <hatta> I like f-prot
[06:44] <hatta> the linux version is free
[06:44] <jatos> AVG is a pretty good antivirus, with a Linux version
[06:44] <jatos> kk
[06:45] <jhutchins> clam's good.
[06:45] <anonymeeee> cool thanks
[06:45] <jatos> AVG has free Linux version, its just hidden away a little
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> Eruantalon: you don't understand what I am saying - they are upto 2.6.20-rc7
[06:45] <mgu> KDE 3.5.6 in Kubuntu feisty: how can I make Konsole use bash instead of
[06:45] <mgu>       sh? changing the command in the "Session" tab in the settings menu
[06:45] <mgu>       apparently has no effect.
[06:45] <anonymeeee> ya, I just tried to download avg, it's in rpm format
[06:45] <anonymeeee> I don't know how to handle that with ubuntu
[06:46] <nagyv> anonymeeee: I think you can find clamav in adept
[06:46] <nagyv> !alien
[06:46] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:46] <anonymeeee> thank you naguv
[06:46] <lameriuga> /.ame $$?*
[06:46] <nagyv> !alien | anonymeeee
[06:46] <ubotu> anonymeeee: please see above
[06:47] <leopartux> at the end i have installed kubuntu
[06:47] <Eruantalon> h3sp4wn: Linux version 2.6.20-6-generic is what i am running. Besides it is a bug in lirc as far as i can tell
[06:48] <phpnub> Anyone know why xorg wouldn't draw a cursor?
[06:48] <anonymeeee> !alien | anonymeeee
[06:48] <anonymeeee> ?
[06:48] <h3sp4wn> Eruantalon: It is unreasonable to expect people to release stable versions until linus has actually released the kernel
[06:49] <anonymeeee> !alien
[06:49] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:49] <Eruantalon> ah that is what you mean.
[06:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> I installed a theme, then stopped using it, but it changed all the font colors on my computer! how can I change them back?
[06:50] <Eruantalon> h3sp4wn: But anyways that is what I was wondering. Wether there will be a new release of lirc before feisty is frozen. It would suck to have broken lirc for 6 mount in (k)ubuntu.
[06:50] <anonymeeee> !alien not found at the command prompt
[06:50] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.64 (edgy), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[06:50] <h3sp4wn> Eruantalon: Even if its frozen - if a package is completely broken it can be fixed
[06:51] <johgli> Hi ich habe mir gestern den Nvidia-kernel installiert und wenn ich jetzt mit STRG+ALT+F1 in die Konsole wechsel ist alles schwarz, ich kann zwar Befehle ausfhren aber nichts sehen. Wei jemand woran das liegt?
[06:51] <Eruantalon> h3sp4wn: Well it is not completely broken just the support for mceusb and mceusb2
[06:51] <anonymeeee> what's component main?
[06:52] <anonymeeee> where's component main?
[06:52] <anonymeeee> what's dpkg?
[06:52] <h3sp4wn> !dpkg
[06:52] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[06:53] <johgli> Yesterday I installed the nvidia-kernel but now I can't see anything in the console (STRG+ALT+F1) anyone knows how to solve this?
[06:53] <h3sp4wn> !main
[06:53] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:53] <phpnub> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dpkg
[06:53] <anonymeeee> !dpkg
[06:53] <anonymeeee> !main
[06:53] <phpnub> anyone ever have Xorg not create the cursor?
[06:54] <anonymeeee> is dpkg something I need to install?
[06:54] <anonymeeee> or is already on my system?
[06:54] <phpnub> should be on the system
[06:54] <look2me> #ubuntu-pl
[06:55] <nagyv> anonymeeee: it is already on your system, but
[06:55] <nagyv> anonymeeee: you have to set up your package manager to look for packages in non-default repositories too
[06:56] <nagyv> !repositories | anonymeeee
[06:56] <ubotu> anonymeeee: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:56] <anonymeeee> bash: ubuntu-pl: command not found
[06:57] <nagyv> anonymeeee: you will have to replace/edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file, a quite good sources.list file could be found at ubuntuguide.org
[06:58] <nagyv> anonymeeee: #ubuntu-pl is the polish irc channel (just like this is the english one). write /join #ubuntu-pl where you write the messages, or just click on #ubuntu-pl
[07:02] <frojnd> why cdrom can't recognize data ond dvd..
[07:03] <frojnd> if I put it in with windows it recognize it..
[07:03] <frojnd> strange is that that's the only dvd that can't be loaded on linux
[07:03] <frojnd> :S
[07:03] <nagyv> frojnd: two possibilities, you did not installed the necessary program
[07:03] <nagyv> frojnd: or you just have to refresh konqueror (or change to another dir under /media)
[07:03] <frojnd> what do u mean not instal necessary program
[07:03] <nagyv> !DVD | frojnd
[07:04] <ubotu> frojnd: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:04] <thompa> Hi, I cant seem to get my printer to work, always worked before. hp 1018
[07:04] <thompa> !cups
[07:04] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:04] <frojnd> nagyv: DVD as rom but data is not video
[07:05] <nagyv> frojnd: then try refreshing the konqueror window or browse the other folders under /meda
[07:05] <nagyv> frojnd: from time to time I also have this problem
[07:05] <frojnd> I do /media
[07:05] <frojnd> and I see cdrom0
[07:05] <frojnd> but when I click on it nothing is there
[07:06] <nagyv> and you do not see anything else, like cdrom (without 0)
[07:07] <anonymeeee> no such channel #ubuntu-pl
[07:07] <nagyv> anonymeeee: there is, at least on my internet :)
[07:07] <anonymeeee> I followed the directions on the wiki to update my repositories
[07:07] <M_Fatih> hi, i need fiest fawn herd 3's download mirror... where i can find?
[07:07] <thompa> anyone can help me get printer up?
[07:08] <nagyv> !feisty fawn
[07:08] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:08] <anonymeeee> no matter, I can't speak polish no how
[07:08] <nagyv> anonymeeee: now you can try to install what you wanted (alien, clamav or sth else)
[07:08] <M_Fatih> hi, i need fiest fawn herd 3's download mirror... where i can find?
[07:08] <thompa> i added printer with cups, but cant print, test page or anything
[07:09] <nagyv> M_Fatih: thompa if we can help we will!
[07:09] <nagyv> !feisty fawn | M_Fatih
[07:09] <ubotu> M_Fatih: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:10] <nagyv> !patience
[07:10] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:10] <anonymeeee> thank you nagyv
[07:10] <nagyv> anonymeeee: welcome :)
[07:11] <drkm> can anyone recommend some bulk file rename application?
[07:11] <M_Fatih> but i need mirror, i' downloading sooo slowly
[07:11] <thompa> I think the problem is with foo packages, but I cant be sure I am purging them all correctly, Somehow I need to start over
[07:13] <nagyv> M_Fatih, thompa you can also try in the #ubuntu channel. Your problems are not necessarily Kubuntu related.
[07:13] <goodthing> drkm: krename or mrename does the job, last one is command-line
[07:14] <theshadow> is there an easy way to hope between window managers?
[07:14] <jordo23> Anyone know how to get a USB mic configured for Kubuntu?
[07:14] <anonymeeee> it's not so easy to install stuff with linux, but I'm getting the hang of it none the less
[07:14] <thompa> nagyv, i just happen to be in kubuntu is all
[07:15] <drkm> goodthing: are you good with krename, I am trying to use it but don't know how to do something I need..
[07:15] <nagyv> theshadow: what do you mean exactly?
[07:15] <gsasha> jordo23: Dunno, I have a mic (actually, a wireless headset) from Logitech, and it kinda works by itself when I plug it in.
[07:16] <antibody>  hi all one simple question! why isn't NetworkManager+gnome/kde in the CD default install?is there any reason?where can I make a official request to put it in it?
[07:16] <nagyv> anonymeeee: I prefer the Linux way rather then the MS one. You just have to get used to find almost everything at one place (Adept), but for this you have to set up that place first (sources.list). :)
[07:16] <theshadow> nagyv: well if I have beryl and KDE installed what if I want to swap between them?
[07:16] <nagyv> anonymeeee: btw, if you decide to download the rpm package, then I think it would be better to compile it from source if it is possible
[07:17] <jordo23> gsasha: Where do you adjust it?  In Kmix?
[07:17] <nagyv> antibody: probably you can do it only for feisty
[07:17] <nagyv> !feisty fawn | antibody
[07:17] <ubotu> antibody: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:17] <antibody> nagyv: sure..I'm using feisty now :D but I think it's a good think to be "from start"
[07:18] <anonymeeee> is alien an antivirus program or something to help me install rpm?
[07:18] <gsasha> jordo23: yes, but you probably have to restart kmix after you plug in the mic
[07:18] <anonymeeee> how do I access it?
[07:18] <anonymeeee> !alien
[07:18] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[07:18] <leopartux_> i have just installad kubuntu . what is the root password
[07:19] <nagyv> theshadow: for the time being beryl build on KDE, so it is not really correct to say changing between them. When I tried beryl once there was a configuration utility, that placed itself in the system tray.
[07:19] <nagyv> !sudo leopartux_
[07:19] <ubotu> sudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-4ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 396 kB
[07:19] <nagyv> !sudo | leopartux_
[07:19] <ubotu> leopartux_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:19] <theshadow> nagyv: okie doke. Well lets hope for the best then lol
[07:19] <drkm> goodthing: are you good with krename, I am trying to use it but don't know how to do something I need..
[07:20] <nagyv> theshadow: I am sure that you can find some more elaborate docs in the wikis
[07:21] <goodthing> drkm: you can choose two different profiles, a wizard or the advanced one
[07:22] <goodthing> drkm: regular expressions might come in handy there
[07:22] <r3vo> how do i stop programs from putting files and folders in my home folder?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> r3vo,  depends on the program i guess...
[07:24] <Dr_willis> thats where they are supposed to put things.
[07:24] <r3vo> well can i make them invisible?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> the idea of a 'invisble' file is not really doable.. things begging with a . are 'hidden'
[07:25] <Dr_willis> but they are just hidden because many programs overlook them
[07:28] <r3vo> i guess i'll just create a home folder inside my home folder to keep my file folders lol
[07:28] <Dr_willis> keeping things organized is a good idea
[07:28] <r3vo> i tend to be a neat freak
[07:28] <Dr_willis> some people use their Desktop dir as their Home
[07:29] <Dr_willis> I have links in my /home/Userdir that point to my spare hard drives for extra storage
[07:29] <theshadow> So I installed beryl but ... I'm not seeing any change from KDE... and I can't seem to change themes. Would anyone have a suggestion?
[07:29] <Dr_willis> find a few beryl howtos/wikis and follow them
[07:29] <binks> i have /home on a separate drive
[07:29] <Dr_willis> you dont 'just install beryl'
[07:29] <nagyv> !beryl
[07:29] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:29] <Dr_willis> theres some other things ya need to do.
[07:29] <r3vo> id you start beryl-manager?
[07:30] <r3vo> All i have on my desktop is a link to my documents on the windows partition
[07:31] <ubuntu> hola?
[07:32] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[07:32] <r3vo> ok I have an interesting question... I have kubuntu on this pc, ubuntu on another, xp on another and os X on another... and I want them all to be use the printer on my kubuntu machine. How can I gat thema ll to see it?
[07:33] <JorgeCHile> as it is the Spanish channel????????????'
[07:33] <nagyv> with samba
[07:33] <Dr_willis> !es
[07:33] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:33] <r3vo> samba?
[07:33] <JorgeCHile> thx
[07:33] <Dr_willis> r3vo,  samba and cups
[07:33] <nagyv> samba
[07:33] <florent_> bonsoir a tous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:33] <nagyv> !fr
[07:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:33] <r3vo> k i'll check it out
[07:33] <nagyv> bonsoir :)
[07:34] <r3vo> gracias amigos!
[07:34] <binks> er is that not spanish lol
[07:34] <r3vo> lol
[07:35] <firecrotch> !es | r3vo
[07:35] <ubotu> r3vo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:35] <firecrotch> I kid, I kid
[07:35] <slyfox> What is Xorg ? in the Proccess Menu in KSystem Guard ?
[07:35] <slyfox> It is eating 56% cpu now ?
[07:36] <firecrotch> slyfox: It's graphical backend for Linux
[07:36] <slyfox> firecrotch: Any idea why it is so high at the moment? I have nothing in 3D running
[07:37] <MustafaTemizel> hi all. I'm using Kubuntu 6.06 Live now. I've SPDIF out but no sound. Could someone help me?
[07:37] <r3vo> Do you have speakers? j/k
[07:37] <MustafaTemizel> lol yes
[07:38] <r3vo> :)
[07:38] <slyfox> Firetech: It is quite now.
[07:38] <anonymeeee> still there nagyv?
[07:38] <ForgeAus> um try the mixer
[07:38] <ForgeAus> you may need to turn it off mute or something
[07:38] <nagyv> anonymeeee: yep
[07:39] <firecrotch> slyfox: Could be a lot of things
[07:39] <ForgeAus> (there should be a speaker icon - Kmix) in the system tray)
[07:39] <anonymeeee> sorry, slow learner I guess:-/
[07:39] <ForgeAus> for volumes, etc...
[07:39] <anonymeeee> sudo alien -d avg71flm-r30-a0791.i386.rpm
[07:39] <ForgeAus> spdif is likely to be one of the volumes you can set
[07:39] <anonymeeee> gave me an err
[07:39] <nagyv> MustafaTemizel: did you tried to play mp3s or something supported?
[07:39] <ForgeAus> at least for my sound-card
[07:40] <anonymeeee> Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package avg71flm: postinst postrm preinst prerm
[07:40] <anonymeeee> Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts.
[07:40] <anonymeeee> avg71flm_r30-1_i386.deb generated
[07:40] <ForgeAus> (onboard realtek)
[07:40] <nagyv> anonymeeee: I do not really now alien, sorry. I just knew that it exists, but prefer clamav.
[07:40] <MustafaTemizel> I'm using Kaffeine and watching DVB now
[07:40] <nagyv> anonymeeee: now you have to install the deb file with dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[07:40] <MustafaTemizel> video is OK but no sound
[07:40] <firecrotch> slyfox: Maybe a problem with whatever video driver you're using
[07:40] <slyfox> firecrotch: It works ok now.
[07:41] <firecrotch> slyfox: well, if it doesn't keep happening, I'd say everything is fine then
[07:42] <MustafaTemizel> card 0: CK804 [NVidia CK804] , device 2: Intel ICH - IEC958 [NVidia CK804 - IEC958]
[07:42] <slyfox> Firetech: One very strange probelm I had yeterday was that when I opened Katapult, it would freeze and there is no way I could turn it off. All other programs worked partially because of it, even Terminal, it opened but I could not type anything in it.  Only after restart everything started working. Very
[07:42] <slyfox> strange.
[07:43] <firecrotch> slyfox:  strange indeed
[07:43] <Firetech> slyfox: check your tab completion...
[07:43] <slyfox> Firetech: tab complition? I am a noob in Linux, please tell me what it is.
[07:44] <Firetech> not helping your problem, but you're highlighting me instead of firecrotch all the time...
[07:44] <slyfox> *completion
[07:44] <slyfox> uhh sorry !
[07:44] <anonymeeee> I couldn't find any documentation on clamv
[07:44] <anonymeeee> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[07:44] <anonymeeee> in the wiki anyway
[07:45] <binks> anyone no of a good tutorial for beging pyqt4
[07:45] <binks> beggining
[07:45] <nagyv> anonymeeee: close adept
[07:45] <anonymeeee> once I closed adept
[07:45] <anonymeeee> i get the error Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:45] <anonymeeee>  /path/to/file.deb
[07:45] <nagyv> binks: there is a link on dev.kde, if I remember well
[07:46] <binks> whats dev.kde an irc chan
[07:46] <anonymeeee> what's pyqt4?
[07:46] <nagyv> anonymeeee: instead of /path/to/file.deb write the path to the file that alien just created for you
[07:46] <nagyv> binks: a website
[07:46] <binks> pyqt4 is a gui builder for kde apps
[07:46] <binks> ok ill google it
[07:46] <nagyv> binks: I think dev.kde.org, but not sure
[07:46] <anonymeeee> how do I know what/where that file is?
[07:47] <nagyv> anonymeeee: I think it is in the same directory that you were running alien
[07:47] <anonymeeee> oh, i seee
[07:48] <nagyv> !tab
[07:48] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[07:48] <nagyv> !tab | anonymeeee
[07:48] <ubotu> anonymeeee: please see above
[07:49] <binks> no not dev.kde.org an google give pants results for it
[07:49] <nagyv> binks: http://developer.kde.org/
[07:49] <nagyv> binks: http://developer.kde.org/language-bindings/python/index.html
[07:50] <binks> cheers m8
[07:50] <binks> ill now read my night away:):)
[07:50] <slyfox> Crap, Xorg is still eating 50% cpu ! :(
[07:51] <jhutchins> anonymeeee: You should find good documentation for clamav on their website.
[07:51] <jhutchins> anonymeeee: Don't expect ubuntu to have re-documented everything.
[07:51] <firecrotch> slyfox:  Are you doing anything very graphics intensive?
[07:52] <binks> nagyv just what i neede thanx alot
[07:52] <slyfox> firecrotch: no, just kopete, skype, amarok, firefox, konversation, kontact and knotes and ksystem guard
[07:52] <binks> later all
[07:52] <anonymeeee> it looks to be working
[07:52] <nagyv> binks: you were really lucky, I was searching for it 2 days ago
[07:53] <binks> loool have you started it then or do u already prog
[07:53] <jhutchins> slyfox: skype, kopete, and amarok are all likely culprits, they tend to do background stuff.
[07:53] <firecrotch> slyfox: you do have a bit going on though... what are your system's specs?
[07:53] <Dr_willis> !find kcleansweep
[07:53] <ubotu> Package/file kcleansweep does not exist in edgy
[07:53] <slyfox> firecrotch: I think I found it, It is the Skype chat window ! ? Why though ?
[07:53] <anonymeeee> how would I ad my new avg program to my start menu?
[07:53] <nagyv> binks: I am an economist, and do programming just for fun.
[07:53] <slyfox> firecrotch: Intel centrino mobile 2.0 ghz and 2 gig ram and 128 video nvidia GO6600
[07:53] <jhutchins> slyfox: Is there an animation or something that's changing a lot about that display?
[07:54] <firecrotch> slyfox: could be a problem with the driver for your video card
[07:54] <binks> abit like me im a service manager for bmw and program in vb.net at work for fun but want to start in nix for fun too
[07:54] <slyfox> firecrotch: I think the driver is fin,
[07:55] <slyfox> jhutchins: No, no serious anuamtion, just animated smiles
[07:55] <slyfox> Skype sucks :)
[07:55] <binks> can i get konversation to quote peoples name when i reply to them in irc#
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> binks: sure just hit tab
[07:56] <binks> tab does nothing
[07:56] <r3vo> anybody know how to do video screen caputure in lunux?
[07:57] <KatieS> start the name binks
[07:57] <r3vo> tab is neat!
[07:57] <binks> KatieS: arr cheers
[07:57] <dddude55> boohahaha
[07:57] <dddude55> my network dissappeared lol
[07:57] <binks> oh i love neat tricks so i dont have to type
[07:58] <binks> right kids need to be bathed bbl
[07:59] <jaysims> I'm trying to manually install java and to do that I have to put in a password for su.  I just installed Kubuntu this week from the live CD.  What is the default password?
[07:59] <r3vo> anyone for the video screen capture? or am I going to have to hold my camcorder up to the screen.
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> jaysims: log in password
  "password" did not work.
[08:01] <firecrotch> jaysims: it's the password that you use to log in, not "password"
[08:01] <nagyv> jaysims: probably your the root account is not yet enabled
[08:01] <nagyv> !sudo | jaysims
[08:01] <ubotu> jaysims: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:01] <dddude55> jaysims: the default su password is your pass
[08:01] <dddude55> !quicktime
[08:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:01] <nagyv> dddude55: afaik there is no such thing as a default root pass. You can give a password to root using sudo password
[08:02] <dddude55> i see
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> no root by default
[08:02] <jaysims> my password did not work. I logged out and logged back in to make sure I was using the correct password.  It does not work for su.
[08:02] <main> hello
[08:02] <nagyv> !sudo | jaysims
[08:02] <ubotu> jaysims: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:02] <nagyv> jaysims: read the wiki please!
[08:02] <main> something must be wrong with me
[08:02] <main> arrgg
[08:02] <jaysims> OK
[08:03] <nagyv> !ask | main
[08:03] <ubotu> main: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:03] <main> how the hell do u change volume in kde?
[08:03] <main> i feel like shooting myself
[08:03] <KatieS> main same buttons as windows
[08:03] <nagyv> main: you mean music volume?
[08:03] <main> all sound
[08:03] <r3vo> kmixer
[08:03] <main> same buttons
[08:03] <main> where is that at?
[08:03] <jhutchins> main: You need to have kmix running.
[08:03] <nagyv> main: just as KatieS wrote it, there is a speaker in the system bar, click on it
[08:04] <underdog5004> main, under kmenu>multimedia
[08:04] <jhutchins> Or Alt-F2 kmix
[08:04] <r3vo> or go to kmenu>multimedia
[08:04] <main> i dont think its there
[08:04] <main> man
[08:04] <main> its not
[08:04] <main> lol
[08:04] <KatieS> nagyv: thanks for putting it in better words
[08:04] <jhutchins> main Alt-F2 kmix
[08:05] <main> doesnt work
[08:05] <main> getting run command window
[08:05] <anonymeeee> nagyv: avg isn't working....how do I know if clamv is on my system and working?
[08:05] <jhutchins> main: How 'doesn't work'
[08:05] <jhutchins> Right, put kmix in the run command, hit enter.
[08:05] <nagyv> KatieS: welcome :) but it seems there is some other problem
[08:05] <jhutchins> anonymeeee: locate clam, ps ax
[08:05] <jhutchins> sorry
[08:05] <main> still doesnt work
[08:05] <main> cant run it
[08:05] <jhutchins> anonymeeee: locate clam, ps ax | grep clam
[08:06] <r3vo> check if it's installed in adept
[08:06] <main> yeah
[08:06] <jhutchins> main: Open a terminal, try to run kmix in it, see what it says.
[08:06] <main> lol
[08:06] <knoppix> hay all, i have  a error 15: file not found after i select linux from grub
[08:06] <anonymeeee> it appears to be installed in adept
[08:06] <main> not fouund
[08:06] <main> ill check adept
[08:06] <KatieS> nagyv: I'm just surprised I could even begin to offer advice since I just got kub on friday night
[08:06] <anonymeeee> ok, what's the grep command to sift through all that to find clam
[08:07] <KatieS> nagyv: dude, nagy is my first boyfriends last name.
[08:07] <nagyv> KatieS: cool, just continue so! hmm, this is my last name too. Is he Hungarian?
[08:07] <jhutchins> Why would kmix not get installed?
[08:08] <main> i have no idea
[08:08] <main> it wasnt
[08:08] <main> im isntalling now
[08:08] <main> never had so much trouble trying to turn down volume..
[08:08] <r3vo> lol
[08:08] <nagyv> anonymeeee: grep will give you those lines of the output which contain its argument
[08:08] <main> k next problem
[08:09] <main> how do i turn off these password prompts that show up everywhere i go
[08:09] <main> ?
[08:09] <main> im logged on as admin but it still asks me for password everytime i try to change something
[08:09] <the_hammer> hi is there anyone here with pcmia wireless cards?
[08:10] <main> how do u turn it offf?
[08:10] <main> ??
[08:10] <BluesKaj> change what ?
[08:10] <the_hammer> hi is there anyone here with pcmia wireless cards?
[08:10] <the_hammer> ??
[08:10] <dma147> good evening...
[08:11] <main> like just system settings
[08:11] <main> it keeps asking me for the password everytime i try to chage things
[08:11] <r3vo> it there for a reason main
[08:11] <dma147> I only can find howtos to install (k)ubuntu on an intel based macbook... but I want to install kubuntu on a PowerBook G3 ppc... any links please?
[08:11] <BluesKaj> that's the nature of linux security , passwords are required for changing major settings etc
[08:12] <main> how do i get rid of it?
[08:12] <MrMagic> main: you don't
[08:12] <main> argg
[08:12] <r3vo> main use a shorter password
[08:12] <BluesKaj> not sure , i just type in the pw
[08:12] <main> yeah i guess i have to
[08:12] <jhutchins> main: What kinds of things are you changing?
[08:12] <main> it uses up too much finger energy
[08:13] <main> like my network settings
[08:13] <main> most of the system settings
[08:13] <MrMagic> you change your network settings every few hours or what?
[08:13] <main> yeah pretty much
[08:13] <jhutchins> Oh.
[08:13] <BluesKaj> well main, then you'd better get yer fingers limbered up if yer gonna use linux :)
[08:13] <main> arrgg
[08:14] <jhutchins> main: You're going through the system menu, and you have to click administrator mode each time?
[08:14] <main> pretty much
[08:14] <KatieS> main I have to agree with BluesKaj... linux is alot of typing get used to it
[08:14] <main> yeah
[08:14] <main> i jsut installed this last night
[08:14] <jhutchins> Is that kcontrol you're running?
[08:14] <Eruantalon> KatieS: If you want to do anything nonstandard anyway.
[08:15] <main> kcontrol?
[08:15] <main> its the system setting folder
[08:15] <jhutchins> main: Try this: alt-F2, type in kdesu kcontrol  and hit enter.
[08:15] <main> k
[08:15] <BluesKaj> he's using sys/settings jhutchins
[08:15] <jhutchins> Should only ask for your password once, you can make multiple changes without closing it.
[08:15] <nagyv> main: but the best thing in typing is that after a while it gets faster then moving the mouse
[08:15] <KatieS> Eruantalon: isn't that the point of linux?
[08:15] <main> k
[08:15] <main> thats better
[08:16] <jhutchins> The way kubuntu's set up though, you're gonna have a password to change network settings one way or another.
[08:16] <main> mann
[08:16] <main> whatever ill get used to it
 worked like a charm.  Thanks for the link.
[08:16] <nagyv> KatieS: it's just one of the points :)
[08:16] <main> this is my second day using linux....i need to start cramming
[08:17] <main> i cant even install a program
[08:17] <pirate-king> how do you change nautilus splash screen color?
[08:17] <pirate-king> hello
[08:17] <r3vo> I think there's a way for you to stay a super user for 15 minutes
[08:17] <jhutchins> main: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[08:17] <Dr_willis> r3vo,  sudo -s
[08:17] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:17] <r3vo> that shold help main
[08:18] <Dr_willis> r3vo,  some people argue that  staying super user for any legenth of time is  a potential security issue..
[08:18] <jhutchins> r3vo: There are a number of ways, but running as super user is not the way you're supposed to deal with kubuntu.
[08:18] <KatieS> nagyv: i love typing
[08:18] <main> thanks for the link jhutchins
[08:18] <r3vo> I agree.. I was looking for a solution for main's problem :)
[08:18] <main> im gonna need to memorize this thing
[08:18] <main> super?
[08:19] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: I believe -i is preferred.
[08:19] <Dr_willis> jhutchins,  im old-skool and always install 'sux' anyway and use that. :)
[08:19] <lupine_85> does anyone know any decent GUI video editing apps?
[08:19] <Danker> Hi
[08:19] <lupine_85> I'm not after anything complicated :) just stiching videos together and stuff
[08:20] <main> hey umm wats the equivalent of "cd.."  I dont know what does mean "took on board"....
[08:21] <Dr_willis> alias '..' = 'cd ..'
[08:21] <jhutchins> Danker: Included, incorporated
[08:21] <HymnToLife> !offtopic | Danker
[08:21] <ubotu> Danker: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:21] <main> k
[08:21] <Danker> What does mean*
[08:21] <Dr_willis> main,  it pays to spend a few hrs reading some bash tutorials. :)
[08:21] <Danker> thanks :)
[08:21] <main> yeah this is gonna take long
[08:22] <Dr_willis> darn  alias '..' = 'cd ..'   wont work
[08:22] <Dr_willis> long? bah.. bash makes SENCE
[08:22] <main> okay next question
[08:22] <Dr_willis> alias '..'='cd ..'
[08:22] <main> how do i play windows media player embedded videos
[08:22] <main> ?
[08:22] <main> on websites
[08:22] <Dr_willis> heh - note NO spaces  _=_
[08:22] <nagyv> main: in firefox?
[08:22] <main> cant find the plug in
[08:22] <main> yeah
[08:22] <jhutchins> It's often said of linux that it has a very steep learning curve.  There are a LOT of things you need to know just to get started, but once you know them things just keep getting easier.
[08:23] <Dr_willis> With linux - you learn the fundamentals. :) the rest falls into place
[08:23] <jhutchins> !mdeia
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdeia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <jhutchins> !media
[08:23] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:23] <r3vo> yeh i need to find out how to learn these things jhutchins
[08:23] <nagyv> main install kaffeine-mozilla
[08:23] <jhutchins> !codecs
[08:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:23] <main> this shouldnt be too hard to learn
[08:23] <r3vo> does automatix incule these codecs?
[08:23] <Dr_willis> depends on what part you want to learn first.
[08:23] <jhutchins> main: Basically you need to have the right player and codec installed, and possibly a pluggin.
[08:23] <Dr_willis> Dont use automatix... just DONT...
[08:24] <r3vo> i did :(
[08:24] <nagyv> main then set up firefox to handle the mms protocol (links where starting with mss:// instead of http://), you can google for this
[08:24] <main> and itl run windows media player emmbedded videos?
[08:24] <ibert> hi! suddenly my I can't get my usb stick mounted. "wrong fstype, bas option etc." is the error message. kernel is <IP_ADDRESS>-386
[08:24] <nagyv> main: yes
[08:24] <Dr_willis> theres no guarrentee that anything will play ALL .wmv file sunder linux. :)
[08:24] <main> argg...
[08:24] <Dr_willis> but with the right codec stuff installed.. i can play most all video files i find.
[08:24] <ibert> reinstalles hal &  udev, no result
[08:25] <ibert> any idea?
[08:25] <Dr_willis> theres wmv files that you DONT/Cant play under windows - without some Idiotic-spyware-virual-codecs installed.
[08:25] <Dr_willis> but we never go to "those" kind of sites... :)
[08:25] <r3vo> oh really doc?
[08:26] <Dr_willis> theres a lot of XXX wmv's out that try to force you to install codec packs that have spyware/worse in them.
[08:26] <r3vo> i suppose you should only browse these sites in lynx
[08:26] <main> ehh
[08:26] <Dr_willis> 'if you see a .wmv  - just let it be'
[08:26] <Dr_willis> "friends dont let friends use wmv"
[08:26] <r3vo> lol
[08:26] <main> i dont download wmv
[08:26] <Dr_willis> "wmv = windows munching virus"
[08:26] <main> but i wanna have option of watching them if there embedded
[08:27] <Dr_willis> ive gotten cartoon networks streaming stuff working :)
[08:27] <main> its irritating to see a big blank on a webpage that shouldnt be theere
[08:27] <Dr_willis> i cant think of any sites that use .wmv that way
[08:27] <binks> Dr_willis:  lol you not buting pista then
[08:27] <nuxil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BoU75XKaO8&mode=related&search=
[08:27] <BluesKaj> yeah, Dr_willis agreed, a friend had his windows pc totally unuseable after getting some of those files ...had to use Ultimate Boot disk to rescue the OS , then it had to be done in safe mode and that was a chore
[08:27] <binks> buying
[08:27] <nuxil> what kind og kmenu is that guy using ?
[08:27] <r3vo> what open codecs are used online?
[08:28] <Dr_willis> r3vo,  that flash stuff seems to be taking over...
[08:28] <Dr_willis> not sure what cartoonnetwork uses.
[08:28] <r3vo> flash is open?
[08:28] <Dr_willis> online sites dont care about open...
[08:28] <Dr_willis> they dont care about much of anything.
[08:28] <main> any of u guy have that novell xgl thing installed?
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> flash is *not* open
[08:28] <r3vo> lol
[08:28] <Dr_willis> name the open codecs out? i can think of.. like 2
[08:28] <nuxil> main, yes
[08:29] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:29] <Admiral_Chicago> you can create flash content on open presenter though
[08:29] <main> is it worth it?
[08:29] <binks> main i had it installed why so u ask
[08:29] <r3vo> i wish people would use open codecs more
[08:29] <nuxil> main, its fun..
[08:29] <main> not irritating?
[08:29] <nuxil> not for me
[08:29] <binks> i hated it
[08:29] <main> k
[08:29] <ubuntu> -] \'\
[08:29] <main> does it slow everything down?
[08:29] <nuxil> main, i get almoust 850 fps with xgl on my desktop ;)
[08:30] <binks> you can still turn it on/off if you install with beryl
[08:30] <main> wats ur specs?
[08:30] <r3vo> i use aiglx
[08:30] <main> nuxil?
[08:30] <nuxil> main, gforce 8800,, 2 gb ram amd 64 xp 3700+
[08:31] <binks> arr thats why our in nix then not powerfull enough for vista ;)
[08:31] <r3vo> nuxil: i want to know how to run beryl on an old pc
[08:31] <main> hmm
[08:32] <nuxil> r3vo, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BoU75XKaO8&mode=related&search=  this guy use a old pc
[08:32] <kareao> newbie question... how do I start kde? i tried to switch user, and it throw me to text based os.. how I restart kde? now using live cd...
[08:32] <r3vo> nuxil yeh that's what i was watching
[08:32] <main> seems like its running fine
[08:32] <binks> main i ran iit on a p4 prescot with 1gb ram and  ati9600  it was fine just not for my taste'
[08:33] <main> k
[08:33] <main> maybe ill try it
[08:33] <binks> kareao:  startx
[08:33] <main> as soon as i learn to install programs hahahahhaa
[08:33] <kareao> ok, thanks a lot!
[08:33] <binks> sudo apt-get your app
[08:34] <main> k...
[08:34] <r3vo> binks: sudo apt-get install your app?
[08:35] <draik> r3vo: Caught it before I did
[08:35] <main> u run it in the folder right?
[08:35] <AxlRose> can anyone help me with the mozilla-mplayer plugin
[08:35] <draik> I knew something didn't look right
[08:35] <r3vo> :)
[08:35] <main> crap
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> AxlRose: what is the question
[08:35] <main> k umm im getting no  compiler
[08:35] <main> everytime i try to run ./config on a folder
[08:35] <AxlRose> Admiral_Chicago:  when I try to watch movie trailers on yahoo.com all I get is sounds and no video
[08:36] <r3vo> i've never been able to compile programs ilke that :(
[08:36] <main> that im trying to ccompile and install
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> main: did you install build-essentials
[08:36] <nagyv> !build-essentials | main
[08:36] <ubotu> main: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:36] <main> yeah arg more installing
[08:36] <draik> main: Did you already do    sudo apt-get install build-essential   ?
[08:36] <main> i knew it
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> AxlRose: mplayer doesn't work irrc
[08:36] <r3vo> nagyv that'd explain it!
[08:36] <AxlRose> Admiral_Chicago:  it shows the Mplayer background..and where it's streaming from
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> AxlRose: give me a second
[08:36] <BluesKaj> main, cd to the folder first
[08:36] <main> iyeah i did cd
[08:37] <main> i dont think i have build essentials
[08:37] <nagyv> main: you don't have it installed by default
[08:37] <draik> main, without the s at the end
[08:37] <draik> main: do.....      sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:37] <main> k
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> AxlRose: hmm, mplayer is the right player
[08:38] <main> resource unavilable
[08:38] <r3vo> i'm going to hang around irc until i know everything there is to know about linux :)
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> AxlRose: check out #ubuntu-mozillateam
[08:38] <main> exactly...
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> ask there.
[08:39] <AxlRose> Admiral_Chicago:  did u get a a video to load?
[08:39] <main> yeah ill run package manager
[08:39] <polo> Hi veryone!
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> AxlRose: I don't go on yahoo
[08:39] <anonymeeee> nagyv: I got an err trying to use clam
[08:40] <anonymeeee> root@imatech-desktop:/# clamtk
[08:40] <anonymeeee> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:   at /usr/bin/clamtk line 22.
[08:40] <BluesKaj> ho polo
[08:40] <nagyv> anonymeeee: sorry, I don't know what this means, hopefully someone else will be able to help you out
[08:41] <r3vo> what's clam?
[08:41] <main> alright basicly
[08:41] <main> to compile and run an app
[08:41] <main> u do ./compile
[08:41] <main> make and install?
[08:41] <polo> i'd like to share some files with friends so i'm looking forward to install a ftp server, does anyone know one for kubuntu with a nice interface?
[08:41] <main> right?
[08:42] <r3vo> ./configure, make, make install i THINK
[08:42] <r3vo> ask someone esle :)
[08:43] <main> lemme try
[08:43] <r3vo> what you trying to install main?
[08:43] <jhutchins> main: Um, you really don't want to be compiling stuff the day after you start using linux.
[08:44] <r3vo> can anyone help me use samba or something else to send files to my printer over the network?
[08:44] <theshadow> every time I try to do sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer it says it can't find a package for that. Yet I have the Edgy universe and multiverse defined in the sources.list file. anyone have an idea?
[08:45] <KatieS> jhutchins: I did it
[08:46] <jhutchins> main: What is it you're trying to install?
[08:46] <BluesKaj> the shadow try: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[08:46] <jhutchins> r3vo: I'm at a bit of a disadvantage for walk-throughs because I don't have a kubuntu box here, but I can try to help you.
[08:46] <main> some volume app
[08:46] <r3vo> please i would love that
[08:47] <jhutchins> main: You shouldn't need to do that.
[08:47] <jhutchins> main: It's best to find and install the package built for kubuntu.
[08:47] <main> my laptop volume and mute keys dont work
[08:47] <jhutchins> main: That's a matter of setting up xorg to recognize them.
[08:48] <main> i tried
[08:48] <jhutchins> main: So again, what package?
[08:48] <r3vo> main you trying to install kmix?
[08:48] <main> no i have kmix isntalled
[08:48] <main> some know paackage
[08:48] <main> knob*
[08:49] <main> its supposeto be an easy volume control
[08:49] <main> k im over it
[08:49] <main> ill stick with kmix
[08:49] <main> im also trying to install a theme manager
[08:49] <main> but it says "cant find x"
[08:50] <main> after i do config
[08:51] <nuxil> anyone got "kickoff" for edgy amd 64 ?
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> nuxil: feisty does
[08:52] <main> is there a package i can get to icompile and install program easily?
[08:52] <revolution27> how to i get a black terminal background in gnome?
[08:53] <BluesKaj> revolution27, this a kubuntu chat , try #ubuntu
[08:53] <nuxil> Admiral_Chicago, do you think it will work in edgy ?
[08:53] <BluesKaj> we're 99% kde in here
[08:53] <revolution27> sorry... just thought there might be a few gnome people here too
[08:53] <revolution27> lol
[08:53] <plugs> !restricted
[08:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:54] <BluesKaj> :) np revolution27
[08:54] <revolution27> i'm setting up my dad's pc with gnome.. that's why
[08:54] <revolution27> i'm a kde guy too
[08:54] <Minataku> I know it's off-topic, but you all should definitely read this >>> http://www.research.ibm.com/gsal/tcpa/tcpa_rebuttal.pdf
[08:54] <BluesKaj> oh he would definitely like kde better ...iknow i do and I'm 63 and retired
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> nuxil: can't say, I haven't been on Edge in several months
[08:55] <revolution27> lol i thought gnome would be an easier to use interface for him
[08:55] <nuxil> Admiral_Chicago, where can i get it from?
[08:55] <jhutchins> revolution27: WHat do you need with samba?  (There's also #samba )
[08:55] <revolution27> who ever thought white terminals were a good idea? lol
[08:55] <BluesKaj> actually no revolution27, if he's used to windows , kde will be fmore familiar
[08:55] <nuxil> Admiral_Chicago, i wanna try
[08:56] <revolution27> weh gnome is kinda mac-like
[08:56] <revolution27> he seems to like it so far
[08:57] <BluesKaj> does yer dad use a mac?
[08:58] <theshadow> BluesKaj: Yes I have it tells me "Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate"
[08:58] <revolution27> no... but... oh nevermind... let's not get into interface discussions here
[08:58] <Admiral_Chicago> nuxil: you could try to do apt-get install kicker-kickoff
[08:59] <BluesKaj> theshadow, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[09:01] <BluesKaj> theshadow, you will have to add that repository to your sources list
[09:01] <apollo> hi
[09:02] <Minataku> TCPA is not the bad technology, Palladium is
[09:02] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: mplayer should be in plf if nowhere else.
[09:04] <jhutchins> theshadow: check out plf.zarb.org, pretty sure they have it.
[09:04] <revolution27> anyone use songbird?
[09:04] <nuxil> Admiral_Chicago, nop.. no such app
[09:04] <jhutchins> msg Minataku Off topic.
[09:04] <jhutchins> Oops.
[09:04] <Minataku> jhutchins: Please do not PRIVMSG me again
[09:05] <BluesKaj> yeah jhutchins , I
[09:05] <BluesKaj> i'm surprised he doesn't have it but it's unofficial
[09:06] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: License issues with the kodec, they keep it off-continent from us americans.
[09:07] <jhutchins> s/kodec/codec - I've been at this terminal too long.
[09:07] <BluesKaj> yeah, there are no repos in canada, which has no issues , so far at least
[09:07] <Minataku> jhutchins: And actually, it's technically on topic, since it's an important issue and part of why a number of people are switching to Linux nowadays
[09:08] <Minataku> It's very important to know what is what, especially when you're trying to escape from it
[09:08] <jhutchins> It has nothing to do with kubuntu support.  Please take it elsewhere.
[09:09] <jhutchins> go start #tcpa if you want.
[09:09] <Minataku> jhutchins: You are being extremely rude
[09:13] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, that plf.zarb.org is a mandriva site
[09:15] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: mplayer is in the repos
[09:15] <BluesKaj> theshadow, this site is also agood one : http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/edgy/3v1n0/
[09:16] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: They do ubuntu packages too
[09:16] <dwidmann|sleep> ack, I feel like I must be feeling 10 orders of magnitude worse than awful :\
[09:16] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: they are in multiverse
[09:16] <BluesKaj> gnomefreak, apparently not in theshadow's sources list
[09:16] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: in ubuntu;s multiverse it is
[09:16] <theshadow> BluesKaj: ty
[09:17] <BluesKaj> maybe he has the universe  multiverse sources commented
[09:18] <j__> hello, I get "Access denied" when I try copy files to my hda1, what should I do?
[09:18] <revolution27> how do i find the ip address of this pc?
[09:19] <dwidmann> http://www.ipaddress.com would probably be a good start
[09:19] <revolution27> thanks
[09:19] <j__> found a thread at Gparted forums that said somebody had posted the solution at Ubuntu forums but I sure didn't find it
[09:19] <dwidmann> wait, that was it afterall :)
[09:19] <Minataku> There's also whatismyip.com I believe
[09:19] <revolution27> yeh... i wanted the local ip addy
[09:20] <Minataku> revolution27: Oh, on the LAN?
[09:20] <revolution27> yeh
[09:20] <Minataku> Go to a terminal and type iwconfig
[09:20] <revolution27> ok
[09:20] <Minataku> That should give you the IP
[09:20] <Minataku> Oh
[09:20] <Minataku> sudo
[09:20] <Minataku> Doesn't work as normal user, sorry
[09:21] <BluesKaj> theshadow :  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list , the make sure there is no # in front of the sources that are similar to this "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse"
[09:21] <revolution27> no wireless extensions
[09:21] <Minataku> revolution27: Doh, sorry again... my brain must be fried
[09:21] <Minataku> Type "netstat"
[09:21] <Minataku> The first set will have a field titled "Local Address"
[09:22] <Minataku> Ignore what's after the :
[09:22] <Minataku> That's just the port used for that particular connection
[09:22] <revolution27> ok i got it
[09:22] <revolution27> thanks
[09:22] <Minataku> np
[09:22] <revolution27> not i need to find the name of my printer
[09:22] <Minataku> Sorry for the braindead answers
[09:22] <[Don_Huan] > Hi
[09:22] <Minataku> Hi
[09:22] <revolution27> they're better than no answers
[09:23] <Minataku> revolution27: True
[09:23] <Minataku> lol
[09:23] <Minataku> And I eventally got to the right answer
[09:23] <Minataku> XD
[09:23] <revolution27> yep
[09:23] <theshadow> BluesKaj: Its not commented out, but I just decided to build it from source... I really miss freeBSD's ports collection :S
[09:25] <j__> about my hard disk problem, apparently the drive is mounted as root (I guess), how do I fix that? is there a fstab guide somewhere, I have no idea what all the options do
[09:25] <BluesKaj> ok theshadow did you add those sources  and sudo apt-get update , cuz mplayer should be available after doing so.
[09:25] <theshadow> BluesKaj: yes sir I did
[09:25] <theshadow> but at this point I'm 60% done building
[09:26] <BluesKaj> another tip theshadow , for firefox & mplayer , check this out http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
[09:27] <theshadow> BluesKaj: yea I was going to look into the mplayer ff plugin after I got mplayer running ;)
[09:27] <BluesKaj> theshadow, cool , you should be good to go then :)
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> nuxil: then it's not in Edgy, it is in Feisty
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> AFK
[09:29] <nuxil> Admiral_Chicago, got a link to a feisty repo where it is. so i can dl it and try
[09:30] <j__> can somebody copy the line for a working mounted ext3 partition from their fstab for me? pretty please? I've been trying to make this work for like 4hrs now
[09:30] <jhutchins> theshadow: One of the reasons to stick with packaged files it that it makes the package database aware of them, and it won't overwrite them; it can use them when other packages want to call or link to them.
[09:31] <Minataku> jhutchins: Sorry, but I feel that occasional off-topic things which are important issues to the entire community as a whole are acceptable, as are completely off-topic serious news events which are important to everyone, as long as discussions about are taken to the off-topic location
[09:31] <nuxil> Admiral_Chicago, i found a i386 version of it to edgy.. but im on a 64 bit install.. and i dont feel like puting it in a 32 bit env
[09:31] <Admiral_Chicago> i run 32 bit for that reason alone
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> plus, parallel computing is better than 64 bit
[09:32] <premier_> The meter at the bottom of my screen says that my cpu is at 53C, and the fan isnt kicking in (im running a laptop)  I powered it off for five minutes, unplugged the power cord, but It still is in the high 40s
[09:32] <Minataku> Not to mention x64's less prevalent support
[09:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Moore's Law, but that's a conversation for #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:33] <Minataku> premier_: Mine (before I locked it on) used to kick on around 45C
[09:33] <premier_> okay
[09:33] <Minataku> premier_: Is it idling at 53C?
[09:33] <premier_> can I lock it on or something?
[09:33] <premier_> idiling?
[09:33] <Minataku> Or is it under load at 53C?
[09:33] <Minataku> premier_: It depends on whether the ACPI interface is known and a driver exists
[09:33] <Minataku> What kind of laptop is it?
[09:34] <premier_> well, I was playing homeworld, but I havent started that since I powered it off for five minutes
[09:34] <Minataku> Games will always drive the CPU temp up because the CPU is doing a lot of work
[09:34] <premier_> dell inspiron E1705, aka 9600.  Ive had some trouble with the acpi, but usually that fan works
[09:34] <premier_> how can I force on the fan?
[09:35] <j__> nm, found a guide that will maybe sort this out (not that anyone was answering in the first place)
[09:35] <Minataku> Hm...
[09:36] <premier_> its at 47 now, but before it got up to 61
[09:36] <Minataku> premier_: Yeah, usually the fan is completely hardware controlled with only software overrides
[09:36] <premier_> okay
[09:36] <Minataku> I'd say around 64C is the notice point
[09:36] <Minataku> 70C the warning point
[09:36] <revolution27> so i've been trying to network my printer. I went over to the other computer and added a new printer with the URI ipp://<IP_ADDRESS>/printers/photosmart and it doesn't seem to be working... What did i do wrong?
[09:36] <Minataku> 80C the danger point
[09:36] <premier_> I might have been to 73 before, but now recently
[09:36] <revolution27> that's pretty high
[09:37] <Minataku> Check that the fan hasn't failed
[09:37] <premier_> Will the BIOS menu have any info on this
[09:37] <premier_> How do I know if the fan has failed?
[09:37] <khatahn> hi, i just changed from CRT monitor into widescreen LCD monitor. what should i do to get the proper resolution for this? edit xorg.conf by hand?
[09:37] <Minataku> premier_: The only way I can think of at the moment is to take it out and hook it up to +5VDC
[09:38] <premier_> take apart my laptop?
[09:38] <Minataku> Which is a difficult task for a laptop
[09:38] <revolution27> or listen really close to hear the fan :)
[09:38] <BluesKaj> J_ will this help .. /dev/hda3 <mount\040point> auto users,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[09:38] <Minataku> !find dell
[09:38] <ubotu> File dell found in ntp-doc, xkb-data, xkb-data-legacy
[09:38] <Minataku> Hm
[09:38] <premier_> revolution27: No I can hear it pretty well when its running
[09:38] <Minataku> !search dell
[09:38] <ubotu> Found: ops-#kubuntu-offtopic, ops-#kubuntu, blender
[09:38] <Minataku> <.<
[09:38] <Minataku> !find acpi
[09:38] <ubotu> Found: acpi, acpi-support, acpid, acpidump, acpitool (and 4 others)
[09:39] <premier_> !acpi
[09:39] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[09:39] <Minataku> premier_: I can't stand Dell, so I have no clue how to/if you can maniuplate the ACPI on Dell laptops
[09:39] <premier_> pos
[09:40] <premier_> this laptop was kinda crummy in windows, and its linux support is attrocious
[09:40] <Minataku> Trash it and get a Toshiba
[09:41] <Minataku> Dell is lousy, they churn out cheap crap
[09:41] <premier_> ati graphics card, my intel dual core crash "Soft Lockup of CPU#0" about 1/4 of boots
[09:41] <Minataku> Slap it together with some duct tape and paperclips, sell it at 1000% profit
[09:41] <Minataku> That's Dell's strategy
[09:41] <BluesKaj> hehe Minataku , my daughter just bought a toshiba, and she knows very little about computers in general
[09:42] <Minataku> BluesKaj: She's either smart or lucky that she made the right choice
[09:42] <BluesKaj> the price was right
[09:42] <Minataku> Nice
[09:42] <Minataku> Toshiba isn't the cheapest but they're top quality
[09:43] <Minataku> You get what you pay for, but with Toshiba you get more
[09:44] <Raven301> I have not problem with my Dell laptop inspiron 1300 - Running Kubuntu edje with kernel <IP_ADDRESS>-01 :)
[09:46] <revolution27> arrrgh i accidentally kicked the power button on my ubuntu pc, now it says can't access tty; job contol turned off
[09:46] <BluesKaj> Minataku,
[09:46] <BluesKaj> http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&MSCSProfile=3C79F0C7EA3162B29078EFCFF8C1FEE5A23B658FB6CD4503BF979262A5414AA8BA2DF5FBCE188246B866C41147856B04A2AD808E576093A38C85CD00F0EBDD91104553C42FF4B1051AD717F2DA3A2541682B53FB4264AA44A71F840C4B5D8FDB8A9A756FFD29F67C4CB1C636663487071EC6B1BCD79BCF94FCF1ABEA955CA66B8B08EF6227032612A6BE0AD2EDCE9354F7133463D725381A994C9C1F0B07F6DA4FB5D748D4CA499D6527B6788F3D61ACB107
[09:46] <BluesKaj> B2FDFF342E96EECAC68B53F9DC359907C1271774FF9012F265FA503AA879EC18895F3FC268F8E5FA739682FCA497&sku_id=0665000FS10080317&catid=#
[09:46] <premier_> Is there anything I can do so I can safely run my game again?
[09:46] <premier_> that was a long url
[09:46] <BluesKaj> oops sorry
[09:47] <Minataku> lol
[09:47] <revolution27> wow
[09:47] <BluesKaj> I'll try again with tiny
[09:48] <jhutchins> BluesKaj:Um, yeah.
[09:48] <BluesKaj> Minataku, http://tinyurl.com/2ul7tn
[09:49] <jhutchins> I think you get the best quality from linovo.  Compaq/HP is pretty good.  Winbooks are good deals for the price, but not as repairable as Linovo or HP.
[09:50] <ventrix> hello
[09:50] <ventrix> i'm trying to install xgl from this guide http://www.biodesign.com.ar/blog/?p=25
[09:50] <Minataku> LEnovo
[09:50] <Minataku> *Lenovo
[09:50] <jhutchins> Thank you, yes.
[09:50] <revolution27> ok guys, x can't start.... should I re-install it? and how?
[09:50] <Minataku> Sorry, my shift-finger is slow
[09:50] <jhutchins> Actually, when I worked with them they were still all IBM, so I have an excuse :)
[09:50] <Minataku> revolution27: Slow down
[09:50] <ventrix> when I'm trying to do "wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/1609B551.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -"
[09:51] <Minataku> jhutchins: Heh, I still think "IBM Thinkpad" too
[09:51] <ventrix> i get gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[09:51] <ventrix> what can I do?
[09:51] <Minataku> revolution27: Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for why it's not starting
[09:51] <Minataku> Start from the bottom
[09:51] <jhutchins> revolution27: also try startx from a console session, that will show errors too.
[09:52] <Minataku> Ignore anything about fonts or /dev/wacom
[09:52] <Wazzzaaa> i have also a problem with that ventrix
[09:52] <Minataku> Those are bogus errors caused by someone not packaging X11R7 correctly for Kubuntu
[09:52] <Wazzzaaa> when i do: wget<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-O- | sudo apt-key add -
[09:53] <Wazzzaaa> i get the error: "Cannot write to ***.gpg (Broken pipe)"
[09:53] <Wazzzaaa> anyone familiar with this?
[09:54] <ventrix> when I'm trying to do "wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/1609B551.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -"  I get "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found."
[09:54] <revolution27> something about api mismatch.... the nvidia kernel module has a differentversion to the x module
[09:54] <Wazzzaaa> im using kubuntu edgy
[09:54] <Minataku> Ah
[09:54] <jhutchins> Wazzzaaa: Only to the extent that I know beryl is alpha software and pretty much expected to be broken most of the time for most people.
[09:54] <Minataku> revolution27: Which did you just change?
[09:54] <Minataku> The nvidia kernel module or X11?
[09:55] <revolution27> umm
[09:55] <jhutchins> ventrix: try doing it in two different steps.
[09:55] <Minataku> One of them changed
[09:55] <Minataku> Did you just do an update?
[09:55] <Wazzzaaa> does that mean that I have to try it another time jhutchins ?
[09:55] <Minataku> revolution27: Type out the entire error
[09:55] <jhutchins> Wazzzaaa: Seriously, that's the sum of my knowledge on beryl.
[09:55] <revolution27> yes a big update... I also installed the nvidia driver and i changed xorg.conf
[09:55] <ventrix> Did it already
[09:56] <Minataku> There ya go
[09:56] <Minataku> revolution27: Update all of Xorg
[09:56] <ventrix> but nothing happens
[09:56] <revolution27> how?
[09:56] <Wazzzaaa> ok
[09:56] <revolution27> this sucks!!!
[09:57] <Wazzzaaa> and could you answer my question please :)
[09:57] <Minataku> revolution27: Through the package manager
[09:57] <revolution27> k
[09:58] <revolution27> and that would be apt-get update?
[09:58] <ventrix> any suggestions?
[09:59] <revolution27> ?
[10:00] <dwidmann> revolution27: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:00] <BluesKaj> ok I've got beryl installed , but when i try to launch it from the cli after loging into Xgl it get this : Support for non power of two textures missing
[10:01] <revolution27> ohh... I get so annoyed when things like that happen so easily
[10:01] <nuxil> !kickoff
[10:01] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[10:02] <theshadow> Ok I did something bad but I don't know what... I just restarted and it didn't load KDE it just brought me to the console login.
[10:02] <revolution27> dpkg returned an error code...
[10:03] <BluesKaj> theshadow, startkde
[10:03] <revolution27> parse error in file /var/lib/dpkg/available
[10:03] <dwidmann> theshadow: well, X failed to start. type "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log" is where X's errors can be found.
[10:04] <dwidmann> erm, wow, nothing I say makes sense today.
[10:04] <Minataku> revolution27: Uh oh... that doesn't sound very good
[10:04] <revolution27> yeh it isn't
[10:04] <revolution27> are there any options apart from full re-install?
[10:05] <dwidmann> Minataku: revolution27: A type of not good I've never seen before
[10:05] <revolution27> sigh
[10:05] <revolution27> why?!?!? all I did was kick the power
[10:05] <Eruantalon> What is the simplest way to use samba securerly?
[10:05] <revolution27> why can't there be a repair button....
[10:06] <Minataku> I wonder
[10:06] <Minataku> revolution27: Slow down now
[10:06] <dwidmann> Eruantalon: erm, set up a password if you're worried about security with it, also set "security" to "user" or so in the samba configuration
[10:06] <Eruantalon> between two kubuntu boxes that is
[10:06] <Eruantalon> dwidmann: Well i've never been able to get anything but share to work
[10:06] <Minataku> revolution27: Type "sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/available /var/lib/dpkg/-available-
[10:06] <Eruantalon> it just access denied all the time
[10:07] <dwidmann> Eruantalon: and I've never bothered to use anything but share ... hehehe
[10:07] <Eruantalon> Well even that doesn't work now.
[10:07] <revolution27> with no spaces?
[10:07] <Eruantalon> Is share a security risk if no firewall is present?
[10:07] <main> hello
[10:07] <Minataku> revolution27: Then try to update again
[10:07] <dwidmann> Eruantalon: there is a firewall present, whether you like it or not.
[10:07] <Minataku> revolution27: Type it as it's presented
[10:07] <dwidmann> iptables.
[10:08] <Minataku> Completely intact and without "s
[10:08] <main> anyone know how to get streaming embedded .wmv videos to work ?
[10:08] <Eruantalon> dwidmann: Ok so no firewall activated that is not blocking anything
[10:08] <ventrix> when I'm trying to do "wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/1609B551.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -"  I get "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found."
[10:08] <main> cuz im been look for awhile and cant find a good explanation
[10:08] <dwidmann> Eruantalon: it's active whether you like it or not :P
[10:09] <main> ?
[10:09] <Minataku> If that fails then type "sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/-available- /var/lib/dpkg/available" to put it back then ask someone else because I'm just guessing here
[10:09] <Minataku> lol
[10:09] <Eruantalon> Is it wrong of me to try to use the samba module in kcontrol?
[10:09] <dwidmann> Eruantalon: anyhow, what I do for the sake of security is I disable erm, what would it be called, writing to the share?
[10:09] <Eruantalon> Yes
[10:09] <dwidmann> "People" can view my share, access files, but not remove/delete/add things
[10:10] <dwidmann> Secure enough for me anyhow
[10:10] <Eruantalon> But for one thing a need write capabilities for some users AND i don't want my files exposed to the entire internet
[10:11] <Eruantalon> are encrpyted passwords standard?
[10:11] <Minataku> They should be
[10:11] <revolution27> got errors again
[10:11] <Minataku> Storing passwords in plain text is stupid
[10:11] <Eruantalon> never mind. It seems that the standard button in kcontrol has no effect...
[10:11] <dwidmann> Eruantalon: not sure about for Samba. Linux passwords are encrypted in /etc/shadow ...
[10:11] <Minataku> revolution27: Just saying you got an error doesn't help us
[10:12] <Minataku> If you get an error, please tell us what the error is
[10:12] <Eruantalon> dwidmann: It is a little different when you send the passwords over the net
[10:12] <dwidmann> I do believe samba probably uses some sort of encryption, not sure how good it is.
[10:12] <Minataku> It's from Microsoft
[10:12] <Minataku> How good can it be
[10:12] <revolution27> failed to open package into file /var/lib/dpkg/available for reading: no such file or directory
[10:12] <Minataku> revolution27: Okay, do this
[10:12] <dwidmann> Eruantalon: if it's being sent over the net, it'd best be done in ssh/https/sftp or something
[10:12] <Minataku> "sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/-available- /var/lib/dpkg/available" to put it back
[10:13] <Minataku> Then hang around because I'm completely stumped
[10:13] <revolution27> Minataku: i type slow.. that's why... i just warned you more errors were coming :0
[10:13] <Eruantalon> net/network/lan/wan whatever
[10:13] <revolution27> omg
[10:13] <revolution27> lol
[10:13] <Minataku> revolution27: Ah, I'm sorry then
[10:13] <revolution27> no you are still helping
[10:14] <Minataku> I meant for telling you to type it out
[10:14] <revolution27> i might just do a re-install since i only installed the os today
[10:14] <dwidmann> revolution27: I wonder what "sudo apt-get -f install" would do
[10:14] <Minataku> revolution27: Go for it
[10:14] <Minataku> lol
[10:14] <Minataku> It's easier when there's nothing to replace/reconfigure
[10:15] <revolution27> dwidmann:  nothing
[10:15] <dwidmann> revolution27: nothing good, or nothing bad?
[10:15] <revolution27> 0 udated, 0 installed, 1 not upgraded
[10:15] <revolution27> 0 upgraded*
[10:16] <erhanr> revolution27:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[10:16] <erhanr> did you try it ?
[10:17] <revolution27> what package?
[10:17] <erhanr> your problem packet
[10:17] <revolution27> dpkg/available?
[10:18] <slyfox> Stable Linux Kernel 2.6.20 Released. Does this mean we will have an auto update or we will only see thin in the next Kubuntu ?
[10:18] <revolution27> anyone?
[10:18] <LjL> slyfox: the latter
[10:18] <Minataku> Oooooh... 2.6.20
[10:18] <dwidmann> slyfox: it's in Feisty right now
[10:19] <Minataku> Thanks for the news
[10:19] <slyfox> When is Feisty scheduled for ?
[10:19] <Admiral_Chicago> using it now as a matter of fact
[10:19] <dwidmann> slyfox: April
[10:19] <Admiral_Chicago> April 19th, tentative
[10:20] <slyfox> Ok.
[10:20] <Minataku> Or do it yourself
[10:20] <slyfox> Side question. Do you preffer Online or Offline Calendar ?
[10:20] <Minataku> I believe there's a guide on how to do it
[10:20] <Minataku> !kernel
[10:20] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:20] <Minataku> "if you're convinced you do"
[10:20] <Minataku> I hate that
[10:20] <revolution27> i got the same parse error
[10:21] <Minataku> revolution27: You will, I just wanted to put it back since my "fix" didn't work
[10:21] <Minataku> revolution27: Hang around and ask someone else, I have no idea how to fix that issue
[10:21] <dwidmann> Minataku: which also reminds me ... the old kernel howto was better than the current if I remember right, or, worded nicer at least.
[10:21] <revolution27> no for what erhanr said
[10:22] <vexx> does anyone know where could i find an edgy driver for audigy sound cards?
[10:22] <Minataku> revolution27: Oh, sorry
[10:22] <vexx> pls
[10:22] <revolution27> i'm so lost now...
[10:22] <Tm_T> vexx: Hm?
[10:22] <Minataku> dwidmann: Let me guess, all sorts of "you're an idiot for doing this" "why are you reading this" "are you stupid?" kind of things?
[10:22] <Tm_T> vexx: No dirvers already in edgy?
[10:22] <vexx> nope
[10:22] <revolution27> Is there anyway to re-install everything that was damaged?
[10:23] <vexx> it doesn't work
[10:23] <Tm_T> How it doesn't work?
[10:23] <Minataku> I hate how they discourage people from exploring Linux, but then again when everything is obfuscated to "just work" I guess they have to
[10:23] <vexx> i started the music but nothing
[10:23] <revolution27> oh i wish everything would "just work"
[10:23] <Tm_T> vexx: That doesn't mean there's no drivers. ;)
[10:23] <dwidmann> Minataku: yeah, those things
[10:24] <vexx> ok. i'll try to make it work. but i'm a newbee
[10:24] <Minataku> dwidmann: Compiling your own kernel is easy and fun
[10:25] <Tm_T> vexx: Aaudigy 2?
[10:25] <revolution27> should i re-install x?
[10:25] <revolution27> what is dpkg?
[10:25] <Minataku> It's really just an exercise in knowing what hardware your computer has and for everything else, reading the explanation
[10:25] <dwidmann> !dpkg | revolution27
[10:25] <erhanr> revolution27: what is your main problem ?
[10:25] <ubotu> revolution27: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[10:26] <revolution27> my problem is i kicked the power cord and now i'm getting alot of errors
[10:26] <Minataku> His /var/whatever/dkpg/available is bad
[10:26] <Tm_T> vexx: Anyway, check mixer settings, kmix is one app for that.
[10:26] <dwidmann> revolution27: try this: dpkg --audit && dpkg --clear-avail && sudo apt-get update
[10:26] <Minataku> Thanks, dwidmann
[10:27] <vexx> ok thanks. it is audigy 1
[10:27] <Tm_T> vexx: Should work just fine.
[10:28] <revolution27> same parse error
[10:28] <tuxt3k> teste
[10:28] <dwidmann> drat
[10:28] <revolution27> near line 1
[10:29] <sdac221x_> can me how to modify the default system beep sound in xubuntu edgy ?
[10:29] <BluesKaj> ok, "Support for non power of two textures missing", this the message when trying launch beryl ...any ideas how to fix this ?
[10:29] <dwidmann> revolution27: last resort time indeed, "sudo dpkg --reconfigure dpkg apt"
[10:30] <sdac221x_> i meant can someone tell me...
[10:30] <revolution27> ok then
[10:30] <Minataku> Heh, I've had my SPARCstation 10 w/ NeXTSTEP/risc 3.3 running the starfield screensaver for the past 16-some hours
[10:30] <dwidmann> sdac221x_: I don't know ... I could tell you how to do it in KDE though ... hehe
[10:31] <sdac221x_> oops sorry just realized im in kubuntu room instead of ubuntu.   i can install the KDE system manger but i hear it causes some problems on xfce
[10:31] <dwidmann> Minataku: any reason why?
[10:31] <tuxt3k> salut
[10:31] <revolution27> ok dwidmann i got some output
[10:31] <cntb> transitioning existong installation from sda7 to hda7 thru acronis same layout different interface
[10:31] <Minataku> dwidmann: Mainly because I'm not using the SPARCstation 10
[10:31] <tuxt3k> where are other chat room ?
[10:31] <dwidmann> revolution27: oh?
[10:31] <revolution27> oh wait
[10:31] <Minataku> I just have it running that while I'm not playing with it
[10:31] <Minataku> BTW: NeXTSTEP sucks
[10:31] <dwidmann> tuxt3k: which one are you looking for?
[10:31] <Minataku> lol
[10:32] <revolution27> unknown option --reconfigure
[10:32] <dwidmann> oops
[10:32] <dwidmann> my fault
[10:32] <dwidmann> sudo dpkg-reconfigure dpkg apt
[10:32] <dwidmann> there we go
[10:33] <adaptr> tuxt3k: use /list - there are over 3000
[10:33] <revolution27> dpkg-reconfigure is not installe
[10:33] <draik> Ugh
[10:33] <dwidmann> revolution27: ??!!
[10:33] <draik> Ok. Now Beryl is getting buggy
[10:33] <revolution27> how bad is it?
[10:34] <cntb> grub-installed and stops at ALERT! /dev/sda7 does not exist. Dropping to a shell !
[10:34] <dwidmann> revolution27: sounds bad to me
[10:34] <ubuntu_> hay all having a bit of problem installing. When i get to prepare mount points, it complains about No root file system
[10:34] <cntb> BusyBox v1.1.3
[10:34] <revolution27> any more ideas?
[10:34] <dwidmann> cntb: have you rearranged drives or anything?
[10:35] <dwidmann> revolution27: ummm, errrrrrr, well, I might have one.
[10:35] <revolution27> it seems like i'm taking up most of this chat.... should we make a new chanell?
[10:35] <revolution27> what is it?
[10:35] <cntb> ty dwidmann same layout acronis does it perfectly for me
[10:35] <cntb> dwidmann:  winxp is up
[10:35] <dwidmann> revolution27: well, you need to somehow or another install the "debconf" package.
[10:36] <ubuntu_> can anyone help my install problem?
[10:36] <cntb> but in ubnutu must replace all sda s to hda's
[10:36] <revolution27> can i do that with the cd?
[10:36] <cntb> ubuntu_ pls chg nick
[10:37] <cntb>   /nick your-new-nick
[10:37] <OlgaB> brb coffeee
[10:37] <dwidmann> revolution27: Ummmm, well the live cd doesn't actually have the mini-repository of packages on it, it has a SquashFS file system that it uses ...
[10:38] <revolution27> oh
[10:38] <dwidmann> cntb: try changing the device in the grub menu to see if you can find one that will boot.
[10:38] <dwidmann> Maybe sda7 really doesn't exist is what I mean
[10:39] <cntb> dwidmann: boots but now stops not finding root FS
[10:39] <cntb> grub-installed and stops at ALERT! /dev/sda7 does not exist. Dropping to a shell !
[10:39] <dwidmann> cntb: you might need to change it in a couple places
[10:39] <revolution27> if you are helping me can you join channell #revo please so we don't take up the whole chat
[10:39] <cntb> also gives BusyBox v1.1.3
[10:40] <cntb> or PM each other revolution27
[10:40] <dwidmann> cntb: did you use a seperate /boot partition?
[10:40] <revolution27> well you can get alot of people in a channel
[10:40] <adaptr> revolution27: not unless your problem will be guaranteed useless to anybody else.. sharing is what it's all about
[10:41] <adaptr> revolution27: try to keep your response down to the essentials, and you won't swamp every body :)
[10:41] <revolution27> :'(
[10:41] <cntb> no separate home
[10:41] <revolution27> hmm
[10:43] <ibert_> hi! When kontact isn't closed properly, the inbox of my imap account is renamed from german "Posteingang" to the english "INBOX", and I can't synchronize anymore... any german speaking imap&kmail user in here?
[10:45] <leopartux> is there a root password for kubuntu. i have just installed kubuntu
[10:45] <cntb> !de | ibert_
[10:45] <ubotu> ibert_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:45] <LjL> Ubotu, tell leopartux about root | leopartux, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:45] <dwidmann> leopartux: no, the root account is disabled by default.
[10:45] <cntb> !sudo | leopartux
[10:46] <ubotu> leopartux: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:47] <leopartux> thanks you all
[10:47] <dwidmann> oh why not, for good measure:
[10:47] <dwidmann> !kdesu
[10:47] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:48] <johny> hey, I have no direct rendering, already done what was to be done and still nothing. i'm using Kubuntu edgy with kernel <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[10:48] <plugs> Help, i just moved a bunch of files to "folder//folder" and now Konqueror can't see them!
[10:49] <cntb> johny what graphic card ?
[10:49] <johny> cntb: Radeon 9700 Mobility (laptop) 256 RAM
[10:49] <cntb> !ati | johny
[10:49] <ubotu> johny: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:50] <leopartux> system settings - personal - regional and language -     there are only 2 languages how can i add more languages
[10:50] <revolution27> can anyone crecommend any books/resources on learning linux/debian/whatever?
[10:51] <johny> cntb: thanks man, but ?.ve already done all those things from here http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[10:51] <underdog5004> !ubuntuguide
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <underdog5004> !ubuntu-guide
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-guide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <revolution27> i mean the real nitty gritty
[10:52] <BluesKaj> johny, this one more helpful : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a
[10:52] <cntb> underdog5004: what are you trying
[10:52] <underdog5004> cntb, meh, I know of a guide for ubuntu, but I can't remember the url...it's the official one...I'm too lazy to google for it...
[10:52] <johny> BluesKaj: thanks
[10:53] <revolution27> I think orielly has a book on linux.... well a few... I might check those out
[10:53] <victor_> im trying to access my NTFS-drive from the cd but i get 'An unknown error occurred' when doing so from konqueror
[10:54] <johny> how to set konqueror to open a webpage on when its start?
[10:55] <johny> I didn't find this in settings
[10:55] <Eruantalon> Can anyone help me get samba to work? Or should I just give up and use nfs?
[10:57] <johny> is it possible to use hardware acceleration without the ati's proprietary driver, but using the open-source one?
[10:57] <h3sp4wn> johny: <= X850 == yes
[10:58] <Eruantalon> johny: As far is I know yes. But it isn't fast
[10:58] <h3sp4wn> Anything that is not X1000 + is fine
[10:58] <h3sp4wn> (except a few mobile chipsets)