[04:50] <jken146> marcelcohrs: system>admin>users
[04:50] <Benalex> zetheroo the LiveCD doesn't have installable packages that might be used by synaptic
[04:50] <San234> Arvan, y my softwares r unable to get installed? even though i hav dloded their ubunti version
[04:50] <joosengee_> หวัดดีครับ
[04:50] <millstone> yo people
[04:50] <zetheroo> Benalex: seems to be that way
[04:50] <jken146> San234: how are you trying to install them?
[04:51] <_Er1K_> PC_Nerd1011: You can verify that with "sudo chmod a+rX /etc/ssl" and "sudo chmod a+r /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf"
[04:51] <iwobbles> d9500 I closed down all other apps the erros went away and the janitor finished ok thanks for the tip eh
[04:51] <marcelcohrs> permission denied
[04:51] <DaveyAM> hi guys hello ebdy
[04:51] <marcelcohrs> what do i have to type in the bash
[04:51] <San234> jken146, i m try to run thier linux version setups
[04:51] <d9500> iwobbles,  np.
[04:51] <Arvan> San234, why not? what message did you get?
[04:51] <_Er1K_> PC_Nerd1011:  that will leave things pretty ummmmmmm open.  If that fixes it, it's a permissions issue, and you should then adjust accordingly
[04:51] <oorah> _Er1K_, how do i do that exactly?
[04:51] <D3RGPS31> anyone with an ATI 48xx card
[04:51] <hsn> hey guys... i upgraded to ubuntu 9.10 today from 9.04 and my mouse doesnt work (laptop) any tips?
[04:52] <San234> Arvan, its a long message everytime i will hav to chek
[04:52] <jken146> San234: what do you mean?  Are you in ubuntu?
[04:52] <San234> Arvan, hey can i join t his chat from any browser?
[04:52] <judibeefl> how do we log in to irc?
[04:52] <Arvan> San234, i m so confused that you are online under winxp,why not be online under ubuntu???
[04:52] <_Er1K_> oorah: if from a shell "ls ~/.config/autostart/*gnome*power*.desktop" shows exactly one file....  then "rm ~/.config/autostart/*gnome*power*.desktop" will make it go away
[04:52] <lstarnes> judibeefl: /msg nickserv help identify
[04:52] <San234> jken146, no right now in xp cos i dont hav xchat in ubuntu
[04:52] <hsn> anyone/
[04:53] <San234> becoz i dont have xchat in ubuntu!
[04:53] <San234> thats y online in xp
[04:53] <hsn> its a synaptic touchpad
[04:53] <PC_Nerd1011> _Er1K_ no fix...   killed the proccess listening on port 53, manually restarted bind9.... /var/log/syslog gives me a long kernel error, specifically naming requested_mask="::r" and denied_mask="::r"
[04:53] <jken146> San234: you can't install linux binaries in windows!!  Install ubuntu and reboot into that.
[04:53] <Arvan> San234, i have no idead.
[04:53] <holstein> hsn: external mouse? :)
[04:53] <San234> Arvan, its ok
[04:53] <assoguerozen_sx> http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7439/office2007.png  fizzle
[04:53] <hsn> no laptop
[04:53] <hsn> holstein: laptop :)
[04:53] <assoguerozen_sx> sry about slowing
[04:53] <millstone> anyone like to play chess?
[04:53] <Random832> so what's the next version of ubuntu?
[04:53] <holstein> hsn: no that was my seuggestion :)... are you sure its not hardware?
[04:54] <Random832> after karmic
[04:54] <Random832> !10.4
[04:54] <hsn> no...
[04:54] <icehawk78> Is there a way to find the nameservers/dns that's assigned by DHCP for a static IP?
[04:54] <hsn> it was fine in 9.04
[04:54] <jken146> San234: then install it in ubuntu!!! Do you have internet access in ubuntu?
[04:54] <D3RGPS31> anyone with an ATI 48xx card :/
[04:54] <hsn> i just upgraded and it doesnt work
[04:54] <hsn> sucks :(
[04:54] <FloodBot3> hsn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:54] <holstein> drag
[04:54] <Random832> !lucid
[04:54] <San234> Arvan, ther are 2 options amd64 and i386 i m runing in 32bit then do i choose i386?
[04:54] <DaveyAM> guys i need install the odb connector for sql server and sybase.. a friend tell me about Freetds but i can install this.. i dont know how install or configure it :S
[04:54] <hsn> anyyyyyyone?
[04:54] <Nehal> icehawk78: ifconfig ?
[04:54] <Arvan> San234, yes, i386.
[04:54] <jken146> icehawk78: whois ipa.ddr.ess.foo
[04:54] <San234> jken146, ya i hav a frends proxy
[04:55] <millstone> how many of u have ever chewed chunky milk
[04:55] <DengHa> holstein: The best beer in the world!!!
[04:55] <hsn> so anyone?
[04:55] <holstein> i guess do the usual stuff hsn, lspci and what not, and see if it shows up
[04:55] <_Er1K_> PC_Nerd1011: As root, make sure named is not running (killall -9 named), then try "named -g" and see what it does.
[04:55] <icehawk78> Nehal: So, set it to auto, run ifconfig, then use info from that to set /etc/resolv.conf?
[04:55] <holstein> DengHa: really?
[04:55] <coordinador> Hey, how can I deactivate the bluetooth service or another, graphically?
[04:55] <holstein> can you link to i DengHa? i didnt know
[04:55] <millstone> anyone ever licked a cactus?
[04:55] <DengHa> holstein: I also like SanMiguel and NorrlandsGold
[04:55] <jken146> San234: then boot into ubuntu, set up the proxy settings (system -> preferences -> proxy) and then use software centre or synaptic to install xchat
[04:55] <hsn> zzz so no one can tell me how to get my mouse working????
[04:56] <holstein> hsn: did you run lspci yet?
[04:56] <corden> how to solve this one: ntfs5: wubildr error?
[04:56] <nikos_> how can i record video from my webcam except cheese in mp4 or somethink like it?
[04:56] <PC_Nerd1011> _Er1K_: I'll paste bin the error:   http://pastebin.com/m7275f6cf
[04:56] <San234> okies guyz rebooting in ubuntu hope it works thanx for help i will come bak to ask how to install that deb files
[04:56] <DengHa> holstein: A beer should have "Roooundness, Fuuulness" as or good friend Dr Bundy said.
[04:56] <bazhang> !ot | DengHa
[04:56] <DengHa> or/our
[04:57] <hsn> holstein: what is that? i'm a newbie :p
[04:57] <Yanick_> please help! I have a white screen when I boot Ubuntu 9.10. I tried doing a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but nothing changed
[04:57] <Denis> Hi. I encountered an error whilst upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10. I do not have a selection to load 9.10 when loading from grub (i dual boot) only 9.04. Additionally, it seems to load 9.04 with that load screen for about 15 seconds before switching to the new 9.10 load screen. Same happens when shutting down. Furthermore, I have encountered a kind of multi-coloured death screen 3/5 times I tried to get into Ubuntu. I only have the abi
[04:57] <demonspork> I found ntfs-config to be an invaluable tool for setting up my NTFS partitions in Fstab, are there any utilities in 9.10 to replace it or am I going to have to look for it in another place, because it isn't available in the repository anymore
[04:57] <corden> ntfs5: wubildr error?
[04:57] <DengHa> bazhang: Go away. If people want fun its what we want. Stuff your rule book somewhere.
[04:57] <D3RGPS31> my fglrx driver displays 3D perfectly, but 2D is extremely choppy; what can i do?
[04:58] <mattgyver> Anyone installed grub2 manually in 9.10?
[04:58] <_Er1K_> PC_Nerd1011: Okay, I'm a sucker for somebody with an easy problem :)  I'm installing bind9 right now so I can see where debian puts things these days and I'll tell you what other files to pastebin
[04:59] <DaveyAM> odbc driver for sql and sybase .... i dont know how install / configure Freetds... iam reading oficial website with i can do this.. some body know about one graphic odbc driver configuration?
[04:59] <PC_Nerd1011> _Er1k_: Thanks :)
[04:59] <Nehal> icehawk78: hmm.. sorry i misread your question, nm
[04:59] <judibeefl> Thanks for the login help :>
[05:00] <demonspork> in 9.10 64bit with Google Chrome 64bit, I can't seem to click on controls in some flash videos, such as Hulu.com
[05:00] <demonspork> and youtube
[05:00] <demonspork> oh noes
[05:00] <holstein> got on issue with zynaddsubfx... 'zombified - calling shutdown handler' when changeing patches.. outputs disappear from JACK
[05:00] <icehawk78> Nehal: It's alright. I went from DHCP to static IP, but I keep getting "no route found" errors, presumably because /etc/resolv.conf is empty, but I'm not sure what should be there
[05:01] <jken146> demonspork: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[05:01] <marcelcohrs> hi guys, using vsftpd and would like to change the permissions of my main account to be able to write
[05:02] <Nehal> icehawk78: check your routing table 'route'
[05:02] <Random832> so why is mouse pointer type part of the theme? It's so annoying to change it back whenever I set a new theme - no theme ever comes with mouse pointers, it just always goes back to tiny white
[05:02] <Nehal> icehawk78: that doesn't sound like a DNS error but a routing problem
[05:02] <demonspork> jken146, I know how to do it, I just have soo many different partitions, I loved using ntfs-config because it would automatically set them each up to use NTFS-3g rather than Fuseblk which the system tries to automatically mount them with. It also recognized the partitions by uuid, which was nice if I rearranged hard drives
[05:02] <Random832> I know it used to be in mouse preferences, like a couple years ago
[05:03] <icehawk78> Nehal: Well, when it's on DHCP, it gets online fine. Not sure what I should be looking for, if not that.
[05:03] <demonspork> jken146, that guide uses the ntfs-config tool, which is no longer in the package repo
[05:03] <jken146> demonspork: oh, sorry, aysiu must have changed it since I last read it ages ago!
[05:04] <jken146> demonspork: you can do it by uuid manually
[05:04] <demonspork> jken146, yeah, I know, but I have 6+ partitions at any given time
[05:04] <imi> hello
[05:04] <marcelcohrs> hi guys, using vsftpd and would like to change the permissions of my main account to be able to write
[05:04] <jken146> demonspork: only needs setting up once
[05:04] <imi> I am unable to use the new kdevelop. is there somewhere any helping material?
[05:05] <demonspork> jken146, I pulled a .deb from 9.04 for ntfs-config, it seems to be working
[05:05] <hsn> does anyone know how to make a synaptic touchpad work in ubuntu? i upgraded from 9.04 and it doesnt work
[05:05] <hsn> help!
[05:05] <Denis> Hi. I encountered an error whilst upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10. I do not have a selection to load 9.10 when loading from grub (i dual boot) only 9.04. Additionally, it seems to load 9.04 with that load screen for about 15 seconds before switching to the new 9.10 load screen. Same happens when shutting down. Furthermore, I have encountered a kind of multi-coloured death screen 3/5 times I tried to get into Ubuntu. I only have the abi
[05:05] <jken146> demonspork: cool
[05:05] <D3RGPS31> my fglrx driver displays 3D perfectly, but 2D is extremely choppy; what can i do?
[05:05] <icehawk78> Nehal: Aha, got it figured out. Finally.
[05:06] <Nehal> :)
[05:06] <[V]ortex`> tex`
[05:06] <hsn> anyone?
[05:06] <[V]ortex`> how do i upgrade to 9.10 from within 9.04?
[05:06] <djsjr> Can anyone help with Ubuntu 9.10 install, I can't see my hard disks in the partitioner?
[05:06] <BoredKender> ok... so this module "ubuntu-desktop" is messing with my x-chat tray icon and tray weather status... anyone else having this problem in Karmic?
[05:06] <icehawk78> !patience > hsn
[05:06] <DaveyAM> mmm no upgrade for now...
[05:06] <Denis> [V]ortex: Go to upgrade manager
[05:06] <jken146> [V]ortex`: do-release-upgrade
[05:07] <gh0zt> sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:07] <marcelcohrs> hi guys, using vsftpd and would like to change the permissions of my main account to be able to write
[05:07] <Nehal> [V]ortex`: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[05:07] <djsjr> I can see the drive in Gparted though.
[05:07] <Yanick_> can somene PLEASE help me??
[05:07] <[V]ortex`> clarification: how do i do fresh install from within 9.04?
[05:07] <Yanick_> I have a white screen when I boot Ubuntu 9.10
[05:08] <corden> is there a support channel for wubi?
[05:08] <djsjr> Yanick have you tried alternate install cd?
[05:08] <jken146> corden: there's a section on ubuntuforums.org
[05:08] <gh0zt> it wouldn't be fresh if you did it within 9.04
[05:08] <Psinetic> I need some serious help. After the upgrade to karmic my hard drive won't boot. I've tired installing the grub again....but it won't work! someone help please? :(
[05:08] <Yanick_> what?
[05:08] <lstarnes> Yanick_: what kind of video card are you using?
[05:08] <Nehal> Yanick_: did you check the xorg logs?
[05:08] <D3RGPS31> my fglrx driver displays 3D perfectly, but 2D is extremely choppy; what can i do? :/
[05:08] <Kniht> how can I switch to a text terminal (e.g. ctrl-alt-F2) when ubuntu is running in a virtualbox VM on a ubuntu host?
[05:09] <Yanick_> I have an ATI Radeon HD 3600
[05:09] <alokito> how to bring back the icons for Preferences, Administration etc. menu in karmic?
[05:09] <Nehal> Psinetic: you need to be more specific? at what point does it fail, does the grub boot menu show up?
[05:09] <drakeman> hey guys, im normally a debian user, i want to migrate into kubuntu, is there any way to change the boot process in kubuntu, for the normal process in where i see all the components loading at start?
[05:09] <corden> ok tnx - still cannot load wubildr
[05:09] <drakeman> i dont want to see that kubuntu screen
[05:09] <d9500> kniht: open terminal and type sudo services gdm stop
[05:09] <lstarnes> drakeman: edit the config for grub and remove the "quiet" boot option
[05:09] <Psinetic> nehal, grub doesn't show up at all. i forget the error it displays, something about UUID
[05:09] <lstarnes> drakeman: there may also be a "splash" option
[05:09] <Yanick_> I have a fresh install of 9.10, it worked FINE with 9.04. I removed all .conf in my /home dir before whiping the old 9.04 and installing 9.10
[05:09] <jken146> drakeman: you could change the option in grub to remove 'splash' and 'quiet'
[05:09] <coordinador> ***WHy there is no graphical tool to edit services??
[05:09] <Psinetic> nehal, it tells me it can't mount the disk
[05:10] <d9500> Kniht, then you can switch between VTs w/ alt+2, alt+3, etc
[05:10] <Kniht> d9500: thanks, I'll try it out
[05:10] <drakeman> jken146,  thanks,
[05:10] <d9500> i mean alt + f2...err
[05:10] <drakeman> lstarnes, thanks
[05:10] <drakeman> going to try it
[05:10] <Denis> Hi. I encountered an error after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10. I do not have a selection to load 9.10 when loading from grub (i dual boot) only for 9.04. Additionally, it seems to load 9.04 with that load screen for about 15 seconds before switching to the new 9.10 load screen. Same happens when shutting down. Furthermore, I have encountered a kind of multi-coloured death screen 3/5 times I tried to get into Ubuntu. I only have the
[05:10] <hsn> does anyone know how to make a synaptic touchpad work in ubuntu? i upgraded from 9.04 and it doesnt work
[05:11] <[V]ortex`> what does this error msg mean during upgrade? W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-security/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[05:11] <[V]ortex`> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:11] <BoredKender> hsn mine works just fine and i upgraded from 9.04...
[05:11] <jken146> Denis, hsn: please stop reposting your problems.  come back later on when different people are here.  In the mean time, why not google a bit and/or post in the forums?
[05:11] <Nehal> Psinetic: hmm, did you try a filesystem check? perhaps it can't get the second stage loader
[05:11] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: it could mean that the file is corrupt.  it's probably a temporary issue
[05:12] <Kniht> d9500: 'services' is the right command? wouldn't think I don't have it installed, if so, but can't find it
[05:12] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: what do i do then?
[05:12] <DesertEagle> can someone help me figure out why VLC won't show up, please?
[05:12] <mattgyver> Has anyone had the luxury of installing grub2 in 9.10 manually?
[05:12] <Psinetic> Nehal: i don't have a clue what you just said
[05:12] <hsn> i did google jken146, and i didnt find anything, thats why im here
[05:12] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: wait a couple hours then try again
[05:12] <icehawk78> If a live-cd of 9.10 works on a system, is it likely safe to upgrade after backing up?
[05:12] <jken146> icehawk78: likely, yes.  Guaranteed, no.
[05:12] <Yanick_> is this happening to anyone else, or am I the only unfortunate one to have a damn white screen (completely white, nothing else) after logon??
[05:12] <jken146> icehawk78: (but nothing is guaranteed)
[05:13] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: ok i'll give it another try first
[05:13] <ctmjr> DesertEagle: try it in a terminal and see if you get any errors
[05:13] <icehawk78> jken146: That's what I thought, just checking. Thanks!
[05:13] <d9500> kniht: um, try service. i don't think it should be plural.
[05:13] <veggteppe> Hi, was just wondering about the "Ubuntu Certified Professional Training". Is the exam hold in person? or over the internet?, and is the certification something that u can put on your job application?
[05:13] <Nehal> Psinetic: let's start from the beginning, how are you installing grub? are you doing it from the ubuntu install disc?
[05:13] <djsjr> Yanick, I've had that problem on ATI and NVIDIA cards, sometimes just have to use alternate (text) based install
[05:13] <Yanick_> why would it do that on a fresh install??
[05:13] <hsn> ?????????
[05:13] <DesertEagle> ctmjr: main interface error: no suitable interface module
[05:13] <d9500> kniht: if it doesn't work, i'll try it to see
[05:13] <Kniht> d9500: thanks much
[05:14] <Kniht> 'service' was it
[05:14] <hsn> does anyone know how to make a synaptic touchpad work in ubuntu? i upgraded from 9.04 and it doesnt work
[05:14] <alokito> i don't have any icon in preference, administrations etc. menu in karmic
[05:14] <alokito> is that a bug?
[05:14] <Psinetic> nehal, i'm on the live cd right now. someone else helped me before but we couldn't install grub, it wouldn't take.
[05:14] <Yanick_> anyone?
[05:14] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: whats wrong?
[05:14] <icehawk78> Will do-release-upgrade work on desktop systems over ssh, or is that just for server installs?
[05:15] <d9500> kniht: yeah, my initial pluralization was incorect. that's what i get for trying to help people after being up 16 hours
[05:15] <lstarnes> icehawk78: it should work, but you should not use ssh when upgrading
[05:15] <Yanick_> djsjr, what you mean by altenate text install??
[05:15] <oorah> with the new version my brightness flickers up and down at startup and when i try to adjust it. is there a fix?
[05:15] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: i can't boot to my hard drive, it says it can't mount it and says something about two UUID's
[05:15] <IndyGunFreak> hmm.
[05:15] <Yanick_> djsjr, the install went alright, all graphics were showing right and all, and then reboot.... then BAM. The screen is all white and end of the line
[05:15] <djsjr> Yanick it's a different install ISO / Disk
[05:15] <coz_> hey guys.... is there a repository for degub symbols for karmic/?  I am not finding any .dbg in synaptic
[05:15] <Kniht> well get some sleep :)
[05:16] <icehawk78> Istarnes: So it's time to dig out a keyboard and mouse, then?
[05:16] <djsjr> yanick, sorry didn't see that you had already installed
[05:16] <lstarnes> icehawk78: that would be a good idea
[05:16] <icehawk78> Oh goodie
[05:17] <djsjr> Yanick when you get the white screen can you do CTRL-ALT-F3 and login with terminal?
[05:17] <Yanick_> djsjr, yes
[05:17] <IndyGunFreak> Yanick_: are you using ATI graphics?
[05:17] <hsn> does anyone know how to make a synaptic touchpad work in ubuntu? i upgraded from 9.04 and it doesnt work
[05:17] <ctmjr> DesertEagle: do you have qt4 installed vlc needs this for it's gui you can also run cvlc "some media file" to see if it works
[05:17] <Yanick_> IndyGunFreak, yes, but Ubuntu 9.04 worked well for the past 6 months without any problem
[05:18] <Yanick_> I am NOT installing 9.10 over 9.04, all .conf were removed, and the whole partition was wiped clean
[05:18] <_Er1K_> hsn: install the "gsynaptics" package, and make sure you have the "synaptics" driver explicitly in your xorg.conf....if you need an example to copy/paste, hollar
[05:18] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: Nehal, any idea what might be going on?
[05:18] <Yanick_> so why now won't it work?
[05:18] <lstarnes> Yanick_: it could be a bug in 9.10
[05:18] <jken146> Yanick_: have you done the integrity check on the CD you used?
[05:19] <[V]ortex`> what does the following do? sudo apt-get install -f
[05:19] <djsjr> Yanick, obviously a different radeon driver between 9.04 and 9.10
[05:19] <Yanick_> jken146, as a matter of fact I did, and it passed
[05:19] <jken146> [V]ortex`: it finishes installing packages that it's half done
[05:19] <Yanick_> djsjr, I was using the proprietary one before and it worked fine
[05:19] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: it attempts to install and fix broken packages
[05:19] <Yanick_> even the recovery mode display a damn white screen
[05:20] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: a google suggested this solution to my previous problem; should i go ahead?
[05:20] <[V]ortex`> jken146: thanks
[05:20] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: no, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense...
[05:20] <jken146> Yanick_: right.  That's the most obvious cause discounted.  Erm, try going into recovery console and setting it up with the non-free driver
[05:20] <Yanick_> I would HOPE at least to have a VGA only display in debug mode....
[05:20] <djsjr> Yanick, I'm sure that Ubuntu default installs the open source version and then you have to install proprietary version after boot
[05:20] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: probably not
[05:20] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: >_>
[05:20] <jken146> Yanick_: oh, even then?  ewww, that's not nice
[05:20]  * Psinetic cries
[05:20] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: that seems like an error on the repository mirror itself
[05:20] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: how did you attempt to do this install?
[05:20] <IndyGunFreak> were you disconnecting drives, etc?
[05:21] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: so it is not my fault?, as in there's a server problem?
[05:21] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: exactly
[05:21] <djsjr> Yanick , I miss xorg.conf
[05:21] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: at least that's the most likely case
[05:21] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: oh, ok... is any another way to get to another server?
[05:21] <IndyGunFreak> djsjr: you and me both... i took one I had on 9.04 and used it.. :)
[05:21] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: I'm not sure if the security repos have a mirror
[05:21] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: and this must mean everyone else is getting the same problem?
[05:21] <Yanick_> ... ok, that was weird
[05:21] <boomer84> Guys, is it ok to ask for a bit of (stupidly simple) technical help here?
[05:21] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: this is how i attempted it: "do-release-upgrade" or "do-release-update" i don't remember which
[05:21] <lstarnes> boomer84: yes
[05:22] <KB1JWQ> boomer84: Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[05:22] <KB1JWQ> boomer84: I promise we'll tell you if you're in the wrong place. :-)
[05:22] <gh0zt> don't tell them to not ask to ask, just answer
[05:22] <gh0zt> :P
[05:22] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: oh ok, you did an upgrade from 9.04.... was thinking you clean installed
[05:22] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: actually, I think it is mirrored
[05:22] <boomer84> cool, I am trying to install usb-creator, I have unpacked the tarball but not sure where to go next, my usual route of ./configure aint working.
[05:22] <Yanick_> the thing is that I don't know how to configure my wifi other than with the applet (xserver).... and since I can't get anything to display, I can't configure my wifi
[05:22] <Yanick_> so I can't install the proprietary drivers
[05:22] <lstarnes> boomer84: what happens when you do that?
[05:23] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: ok, thanks for your input; i'll try again tmr or something
[05:23] <lstarnes> Yanick_: there should be a way to configure it from the console
[05:23] <boomer84> says no such file or directory
[05:23] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: no, it wasn't a clean install. but it's really extremely frustrating that i'm having so many problems with ubuntu. >_>
[05:23] <lstarnes> boomer84: pastebin the list of files included with it
[05:23] <Yanick_> the question is: how do I remove the ATI drivers from the shell when I don't know the name of the package I need to remove??
[05:23] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: believe me, i understand, i ended up reinstalling on my laptop, and it seems to be running swimmingly now.
[05:23] <boomer84> Sorry Istarnes, I dont understant
[05:23] <lstarnes> boomer84: type ls
[05:23] <djsjr> Yanick, what happened?
[05:24] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: haha, no, you don't. i've had ubuntu for a month now and have been "fixing" the darned thing ever since. everytime i turn around something breaks.
[05:24] <lstarnes> boomer84: then go to http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste its output there, then give me the resulting link
[05:24] <Yanick_> djsjr, I don't know, was bombarded with CTCP requests or something
[05:24] <boomer84> bin, debian, desktop, gui, man. scripts, setup.py, usbcreator
[05:24] <wit_273> I am a loss on what to do to trouble shoot this problem -- I updated to 9.10.  Now my wireless will not connect.  I can see the network and it shows great signal (just not connected) until I try to connect.  Once I try to connect it shows no signal--but I still see it is there.
[05:24] <robin01> hi
[05:24] <boomer84> all folders apart from setup.py
[05:24] <lstarnes> boomer84: try python ./setup.py
[05:24] <Kniht> d9500: that works, but did what I was hoping it wouldn't-- closing down X. I just realized I can remote in to the VM though, so I'm going to do that, unless you know another way?
[05:24] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: well.. that happens... i cant tell you how many times i installed/reinstalled during my first 3-4mo.. but typically, its hard to really bork something in ubuntu
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: but it does get easier once you get the hang of it... i rarely have problems that result in a reinstall nowdays.
[05:25] <Yanick_> how to configure xserver to use VGA only in the shell console?
[05:25] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: well...i still can't boot grub...
[05:26] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: yeah, are you on a 9.04 live cd, or 9.10 live cd?
[05:26] <boomer84> err, command not found. although I have an install.py the scripts folder
[05:26] <lstarnes> boomer84: you don't have python?
[05:26] <Yanick_> if I can at least get a GUI, I can manage to fix my problem, but now I'm in a dead end with a broken fresh 9.10 install
[05:26] <boomer84> err maybe not. lol
[05:26] <Psinetic> 9.04
[05:26] <boomer84> Istarnes, I will explain the real problem.
[05:26] <djsjr> Yanick, dpkg --get-selections | grep phpdpkg --get-selections | grep ATI
[05:26] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: sry, 9.04
[05:27] <lstarnes> boomer84: try python -c "print 'foo'"
[05:27] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: i dunno if you can install grub from the live CD or not.
[05:27] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: i know w/ regular grub, you could.. don't know about grub2(which i hate, by the way)
[05:27]  * Psinetic slams head on desk
[05:27] <exodus_ms> !grub
[05:27] <Yanick_> djsjr, was that the command to get the ATI packages installed?
[05:27] <boomer84> oh wait, I actually needed to type "python ./setup.py
[05:27] <IndyGunFreak> exodus_ms: problem is, all those docs, refer to grub.. not grub2.
[05:27] <djsjr> Yanick yes
[05:27] <oorah> with the new version my brightness flickers up and down at startup and when i try to adjust it. is there a fix?
[05:28] <tritium> 9.10 no longer finds my HP networked all-in-one fax option, nor does X-Sane find it as an available scanner in 9.10
[05:28] <exodus_ms> !grub2 > Psinetic
[05:28] <Yanick_> I'll try that, will need to reboot, be back after
[05:28] <bazhang> tritium, which HP model
[05:28] <djsjr> Yanick may need to try to grep radeon or flxgr depending on the name of the package
[05:28] <exodus_ms> IndyGunFreak, read the output from !grub next time partna :P
[05:28] <tritium> bazhang: Officejet L7650 All-In-One
[05:28] <djsjr> Yanick, don't remember the package names myself?
[05:29] <losha> !grub2
[05:29] <d9500> kniht: not really. you may be able to work around the closing down of x by setting your gnome session to remember your currently running apps when you log back in, and then once you're drop to VT and done whatever administering you needed to do from terminal, run sudo service gdm start and logging back in. hopefully, your apps will be running right where they left off. haven't tried it though
[05:29] <Psinetic> exodus_ms: problem with this is i have no idea how to install it to a disk that doesn't mount to begin with.
[05:29] <andey> im just curious, how long does it take for a raid to grow from 3 to 4 drives.... 1tb 7200k sataII each drive. Are we talking hours or days. I have a quad 2.4ghz, and 4gb ddr2 ram
[05:29] <Yanick_> djsjr, thanks! I appreciate it
[05:29] <kaikun> anyone know if mencoder comes with mplayer in ubuntu ?
[05:30] <boomer84> Istarnes, the real problem is that my computer wont seem to boot from a usb created by unetbootin on windows. the usb key works on other  netbooks but not on my eeepc so I thought trying usb-creator on linux might work instead
[05:30] <kaikun> nvm i got my answer
[05:30] <tritium> bazhang: it still finds the printer, just not the fax or scanner.  In 9.04, when installing a printer, I could choose between hplip and another driver (PS, I think).  The hplip driver offered found both the printer and the scanner.  No such choice over drivers in 9.10.
[05:30] <Kniht> d9500: thanks for helping in any case
[05:30] <Shwack> All of my sounds work except for in games, can anybody help?
[05:30] <bazhang> tritium, just checking the forums now, thanks for the additional info
[05:30] <djsjr> I can't select any drives under the partions install under live-cd, but I can see them in gparted?
[05:31] <San234> Arvan, u ther?
[05:31] <boomer84> Will try some other things n check back, thanks for the help. And now I know I am allowed to ask questions here I wont ask to ask ;-)
[05:31] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: have you tried running the commands to see what happens... probably would be difficult to use a 9.04 disk, to check grub on 9.10 system
[05:31] <tritium> bazhang: thanks!
[05:31] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: i'll try.
[05:31] <San234> guyz wen i took proxy in ubuntu the browser worked OK but IRC dint got conected
[05:32] <SoftwareExplorer> I once messed with ltsp, but now I don't need any ltsp images / related stuff, so how can I free up the space they use? is it safe to delete everything in /opt/ltsp?
[05:32] <San234> i dont hav internet in ubuntu so i hav taken proxy but the problem is that Google and yahoo are loading but gmail and yahoomail sites arent opening even xchat isnt conecting plzzz help!!!!!!
[05:33] <Shwack> I have sound with everything except in Ubuntus packaged games like tetris and such - does anybody know how to fix?
[05:33] <jeffhmb> Upgrade time! How slow are the servers?
[05:33] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: dunno till you start. :)
[05:33] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: ok, i ran the first command: http://pastebin.com/d67b89fb4 but how am i absolutely POSITIVE it didn't just install it to the live cd  temp folder?
[05:33] <IndyGunFreak> they're always slow for at least a few days.
[05:34] <tritium> bazhang: it would appear to be an unfortunate regression in 9.10
[05:34] <djsjr> Jeffhmb, I torrented and got 9.10 in less than 6 minutes
[05:34] <San234> some1 plzz help me i have taken proxy but mail sites like gmail and yahoomail arent opening and xchat IRC is also failing to conect
[05:34] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: thats not what i was talking about
[05:34] <bazhang> tritium, from launchpad? is there a bug number?
[05:34] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: huh?
[05:34] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: scroll down to where it says "Recover grub2 via live cd"
[05:34] <tritium> bazhang: not that I've found, no.
[05:34] <d9500> kniht: you still here?
[05:34] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: ok
[05:34] <San234> guyz plzz help
[05:34] <jeffhmb> djsjr: I'm using dist-upgrade
[05:34] <Kniht> yes
[05:34] <bazhang> tritium, will keep looking :)
[05:35] <tritium> bazhang: me too.  Thanks!  :)
[05:35] <d9500> kniht: try host key (default is the ctrl key) + f1, f2, etc
[05:35] <djsjr> jeffhmb, sorry
[05:35] <coz_> San234,  if no one can help here try the ##linux channel...  (I couldn't find it)
[05:36] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: ?.. thats not gonna wipe your hard drive
[05:36] <San234> jeffhmb, ya  i hav taken proxy from my frend
[05:37] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: format disk doesn't wipe the disk?
[05:37] <d9500> kniht: use ctrl alt f1 in ubuntu virtualbox
[05:37] <djsjr> I wonder why the 9.10 installer will not see my hdd, but gparted and fdisk will?
[05:37] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: thats not the format disk command.
[05:37] <AAA_awright> The upgrade wants to install cvs and python, is there some way to figure out why with the change in repository URL?  What Type: setting?
[05:38] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: ok
[05:39] <jbuncher> !grub2
[05:39] <San234> jeffhmb, sorry? dint got u?
[05:39] <bazhang> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/officejet/officejet_pro_l7600.html#note5 tritium someone has it working in Karmic at least; need to find out who that is :)
[05:39] <subramaniam> hi ...i just upgraded frm 9.04 to 9.10 .....i lost my wifi....if i go to hardware drivers it says broadcom wireless drivers not install ... if i try to install i doesnt
[05:39] <jeffhmb> San234: are you using Xchat?
[05:39] <cycrosism> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8202752#post8202752
[05:39] <cycrosism> i need some help
[05:39] <tritium> bazhang: wow, thanks for finding that!
[05:40] <San234> jeffhmb, right now i m in xp i installed Xchat IRC in ubuntu but it dint worked i failed to conect to irc.ubuntu.com
[05:40] <jbuncher> subramaniam, you may have to use a wired connection to get your proprietary broadcom drivers installed so wireless will work.  That or you may need the cd in the drive bay.
[05:40] <jeffhmb> What did you set the Proxy Server Type to?
[05:40] <SoftwareExplorer> What should I do to free up space from ltsp images that I don't need anymore? Is it safe to delete /opt/ltsp?
[05:40] <San234> jeffmb, same is the problem with site google and yahoo are opening but gmail and yahoomail are not opening
[05:40] <icehawk78> Is the network upgrade for desktops interactive, or can I just start it overnight and let it run?
[05:40] <goddard> hello there
[05:40] <jeffhmb> San234: The choices are (Disabled), Wingate, Socks4, Socks5, and HTTP
[05:41] <goddard> Is there a Linux version of Safari?
[05:41] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: the hard drive seems to already be mounted as ext3
[05:41] <San234> jeffhmb, wer r these choices?
[05:41] <subramaniam> jbuncher: i hav a wired network....i click to activate the driver it doesnt ...it reports a bug
[05:41] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: wait nvm
[05:41] <cycrosism> I need some heelp
[05:42] <cycrosism> wtf was that
[05:42] <icehawk78> Floodbots flooding
[05:42] <quiescens> why exactly does there need to be 3 bots doing what looks like the same thing
[05:42] <SoftwareExplorer> goddard: I've ran safari under wine for like five minutes, but I dont usually use safari
[05:42] <IndyGunFreak> cycrosism: just ask your question, if we canb help, we will
[05:42] <cycrosism> This is my question http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8202752#post8202752
[05:44] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[05:44] <cycrosism> why are all these people joining then leaving
[05:44] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: uh..../etc/default/grub doesn't exist....
[05:44] <djsjr> cycrosism, good luck with getting DTV working on linux period, I've got a supported card and it don't work?
[05:44] <cycrosism> STOP FLOODING
[05:44] <marcelcohrs> weired
[05:44] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: yeah, i was afraid of that, you really need a 9.10 live CD to run those commands
[05:45] <marcelcohrs> WTF
[05:45] <cycrosism> Why do people do this do they have no lifes
[05:45] <Psinetic> wtf is going on with the irc?
[05:45] <Benalex> cycrosism you may disable join part  msgs
[05:45] <joe75> net split
[05:45] <cycrosism> KB1JWQ: Ty!
[05:45] <KB1JWQ> Not this time. :-)
[05:45] <IndyGunFreak> cycrosism: and when you call attention to them, it only fuels them
[05:45] <cycrosism> djsjr: So it wont work?
[05:45] <cycrosism> Then I shall switch to windows
[05:46] <Psinetic> cycrosism: good luck with that
[05:46] <cycrosism> if its THAT hard to get a tv driver working
[05:46] <Psinetic> cycrosism: don't even talk to me about how hard it is to fix a problem in ubuntu. >_>
[05:46] <IndyGunFreak> cycrosism: the problem is most of them don't have very good driver support.. i'ev got an old analog card that works great
[05:47] <subramaniam> plz help me out...
[05:47] <Kate> Hmm
[05:47] <cycrosism> and new ones ddont work?
[05:47] <IndyGunFreak> i didn't say that
[05:47] <Kate> Hey, anybody know how to get the Ubuntu installer to auto-purge MD raid devices on 9.10?
[05:47] <Kate> =/
[05:47] <djsjr> cycrosism, the newer the card usually the more immature the drivers
[05:48] <djsjr> Kate I saw something bout that in the release notes?
[05:48] <Psinetic> cycrosism: it really depends. hardware venders sometimes don't support linux, and WE have to make those drivers, it takes a while, because sometimes the drivers don't work. there are substitutes that you can use, but sometimes they don't perform at max perficiency.
[05:48] <cycrosism> why is that
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> djsjr: the same could be said for almost any device under Linux
[05:48] <cycrosism> I just installed a shit load of drivers and it wont work :(
[05:48] <Psinetic> !language > cycrosism
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> cycrosism: then write the developer and complain
[05:48] <Viking667> Any way to cache these debs so I can upgrade my Kubuntu at the same time?
[05:48] <djsjr> Indy, true, but it's a hardware manufacturer issue not Linux
[05:48] <Viking667> I'm currently using the software updater, it's on the downloading packages step.
[05:48] <Wingard> Hi. I am here on behalf of a friend who is currently trapped in install limbo.
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> djsjr: EXACTLY!
[05:48] <Wingard> Ahem.
[05:49] <as5sin3> hi
[05:49] <Wingard> "What's that dpkg-- command that you use when an install breaks and you want to free it?"
[05:49] <quiescens> -f
[05:49] <djsjr> Indy, I learned a long time ago to buy with LInux compatibility in mind
[05:49] <quiescens> or was that apt
[05:49] <quiescens> hmm
[05:50]  * Psinetic goes to download the karmic cd. but IndyGunFreak, how do i burn a live cd when i'm using a live cd?
[05:50] <jeffhmb> Kate: what do you mean by auto-purge?
[05:50] <Viking667> so, any answers for my current problem, so I don't hit the bandwidth too hard?
[05:50] <IndyGunFreak> djsjr: yeah, i build all my own stuff, so i usually am researching for a while... laptops, i research a LONG time.. :)
[05:50] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: well, that could be a problem if you don't have two CD drives... can your machine boot a thumb drive?
[05:50] <bmears> hello
[05:50] <djsjr> Indy, I've got a Macbook Pro early 08 that works nicely with Ubuntu
[05:50] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: nope
[05:51] <SoftwareExplorer> Psinetic: Some livecd's let you run them from ram, if you have enough, I don't know about ubuntu
[05:51] <preecher> under u9.04 i had wireshark and wireshark as root and zenmap and zenmap as root--now after upgrading to u9.10 i no longer have the progs with root and dont even have them listed in software center or synaptic--any ideas?
[05:51] <goddard> Is there a Linux version of Safari?
[05:51] <cycrosism> preecher: compile them from source
[05:51] <Psinetic> SoftwareExplorer: i have 8 Gigs, if it can i should be able to
[05:51] <linc_bur> hi
[05:51] <ctmjr> cycrosism: what do you get when you run dmesg | grep dvb
[05:51] <IndyGunFreak> djsjr: yeah, i've got a 3yr old acer Laptop, that has actually worked pretty darn good from day 1.
[05:51] <jeffhmb> cycrosism, give it some time. you just posted ~30 minutes ago.
[05:51] <Psinetic> goddard, try sudo apt-get install safari
[05:52] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: how old is your machine?
[05:52] <losha> Psinetic: I don't think ubuntu does livecd run-without-cd. I think knoppix does. Google ubuntu toram
[05:52] <cycrosism> I get nothing ctmjr
[05:52] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: maybe a year, built it myself from random parts that weren't quite so random
[05:52] <Jason__> hi
[05:52] <coz_> goddard,  I wanted that as well  but  the closest thing would be google chrome already made for you
[05:52] <Psinetic> losha: what do you mean ubuntu doesn't do live cd?
[05:52] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: i see, and you're sure it doesn't booth a USB device?
[05:52] <goddard> is there google chrome for linux?
[05:52] <Jason__> The Translation in Kubuntu 9.10 is not so good.
[05:52] <Psinetic> if it does i have no idea how to do it...
[05:52] <goddard> how does ephipany match up??
[05:53] <ctmjr> cycrosism: is it a usb card?
[05:53] <cycrosism> ctmjr: yes
[05:53] <losha> Psinetic: you misread it. Ubunto does livecd, but not without having the cd inserted....
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: you have to set it in your boot sequence int he bios.
[05:53] <Kate> So it auto-writes over the md type partitions =/
[05:53] <coz_> goddard,  yes there is google chrome for linux or you can get webkit and build your own :)
[05:53] <ctmjr> cycrosism: unplug it then plug it back in then run dmesg | tail
[05:53] <mneptok> goddard: i prefer Midori for lightweight browsing
[05:53] <Psinetic> losha, ah ok
[05:53] <d9500> goddard,  yes, but not the branded version. there's a browser called chromium built on the same source code as chrome.
[05:53] <San_> i m currently in xp cos i dont have internet in ubuntu so i took proxy of my frend in ubuntu google and yahooo loaded but gmail and yahoomail are able to load plzz help
[05:53] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: *sigh* hang on a sec
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: here's my thinking...
[05:54] <maxjezy> anyone using a mobile connection?
[05:54] <San_> i m currently in xp cos i dont have internet in ubuntu so i took proxy of my frend in ubuntu google and yahooo loaded but gmail and yahoomail are unable to load
[05:54] <San_> i m currently in xp cos i dont have internet in ubuntu so i took proxy of my frend in ubuntu google and yahooo loaded but gmail and yahoomail are unable to load
[05:54] <maxjezy> i need help!
[05:54] <goddard> i see
[05:54] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: if you can boot a USB device, you can use the 9.04 live CD, to download a 9.10 live CD, use unetbootin to put the ISO on a flash drive(probably 2gigs).. boot it, and try to use the flash drive, to restore grub2
[05:54] <cycrosism> ctmjr: [28921.777479] dvb-usb: found a 'Leadtek WinFast DTV Dongle H' in cold state, will try to load a firmware
[05:54] <jbuncher> gnome-shell seems pretty interesting
[05:54] <losha> Psinetic: another possibility is unetbootin, which supports booting from isos without requiring a cd reader: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[05:55] <San_> CMON GUYZ HELP! M ASKING FOR HELP SINCE 2 HOURS!
[05:55] <San_> i m currently in xp cos i dont have internet in ubuntu so i took proxy of my frend in ubuntu google and yahooo loaded but gmail and yahoomail are unable to load
[05:55] <foo_> anyone else get the Grub Error 15 after 9.10 install?
[05:55] <Psinetic> OMG why is it so darned hard just to get ubuntu to freaking work?!!
[05:55] <Psinetic> for crying out loud....
[05:55] <tom-davidson> hi, i have hardy server. I installed some x apps (such as pulseaudio config tools). i ssh to the box from another ubuntu machine (ssh -X user@host) but when i try to run an app i get "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"
[05:55] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, you don't need a usb device, unetbootin can mount the iso from harddrive to
[05:55] <Necrogami> San_: did you set your nameservers?
[05:55] <bazhang> Psinetic, please calm down
[05:55] <Ignatius> somehow... I managed to completely foobar my ubuntu... I get grub error 17 and if I use a live distro (which I'm doing now) I can't access the partition with Ubuntu on it. Any ideas how I could get into that partition?
[05:55] <San_> SITES LIKE YAHOMAIL GMAILARENT OPENING IN UBUNTU EVEN IRC FAILS TO CONECT
[05:55]  * Viking667 shrugs
[05:55] <San_> NO I DINT SET
[05:55] <bazhang> San_, please dont use caps
[05:56] <Psinetic> bazhang: i'm trying,  but my computer has been out of commission for two days already...
[05:56] <maxjezy> Psinetic, just download unetbootin and it's running in 2 minutes
[05:56] <Necrogami> San_: lowercase please ...
[05:56] <maxjezy> if you got the iso
[05:56] <jeffhmb> Kate, i had a hard time with when I installed the last Ubuntu LTS on a server with existing raid partitions.
[05:56] <Necrogami> San_: you probably need to set your resolv.conf
[05:56] <ctmjr> cycrosism: did it load the firmware or no?
[05:56] <cycrosism> ctmjr: i dont know :(
[05:56] <jeffhmb> Kate, that was a while ago though ...
[05:56] <IndyGunFreak> maxagaz: but he's still gonna need to boot the "Live" version to try and repair his grub config on his hard drive
[05:56] <cycrosism> ctmjr: [29061.913300] dvb-usb: downloading firmware from file 'dvb-usb-dib0700-1.20.fw'
[05:56] <cycrosism> [29062.119062] dib0700: firmware started successfully.
[05:56] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, videos and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86)
[05:57] <San_> can u explain in simple words cos i m new in ubuntu just installed it yesterday
[05:57] <cycrosism> but  it wont find it on me-tv ctmjr
[05:57] <jeffhmb> San_, why are you trying to use a proxy?
[05:57] <losha> Psinetic: one reason is people insist on running stuff that's fresh out of beta. New software is buggy, folks. Try 8.04 LTS instead...
[05:57] <Necrogami> jeffhmb: i think it's because his local network isn't working
[05:57] <Necrogami> eg: he doesn't have the correct nameservers et.
[05:57] <Necrogami> set*
[05:58] <San_> jeffhmb, becos i want internet in ubuntu also
[05:58] <IndyGunFreak> losha: now thts just plain silly
[05:58] <ctmjr> cycrosism: do not trust me-tv it is not very reliable
[05:58] <cycrosism> ctmjr: What should I use then?
[05:58] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, there are lots of ways solving that prob
[05:58] <Necrogami> San_: can you be on irc and ubuntu at the same time?
[05:58] <San_> jeffhmb, actuall problem is that i havnt created a internet conection in ubuntu cos i dont know how to cos m new to it so trying proxy
[05:58] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, but indeed that way is one way
[05:58] <ctmjr> cycrosism: did you install the dvb-utils package?
[05:58] <IndyGunFreak> maxjezy: then by all means, offer to help.
[05:58] <gluonman> Anyone think it's a bad idea to install 64-bit Ubuntu when I have only 2GB of RAM?
[05:59] <cycrosism> ctmjr: ill install it now
[05:59] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: so basically it's like this: 1. Boot to ram with an ISO that i have to re-download -> 2. in lie cd-ram mode, download and burn the live-cd for karmic -> 3. boot to the new live cd -> 4. figure out how to fix grub and HOPE it works this time -> 5. MAYBE get my computer working in a week.
[05:59]  * Necrogami facepalms
[05:59] <jeffhmb> San_, what is your network hardware....
[05:59] <Necrogami> gluonman: no it's not a bad idea.
[05:59] <San_> Necrogamri, no IRC fails to conect this chat rooms in ubuntu i m having some proxy prob
[05:59] <jeffhmb> Kate, I'm looking up the raid stuff now.
[05:59] <maxjezy> go live and just reinstall grub
[05:59] <maxjezy> no big deal
[05:59] <bazhang> gluonman, its entirely up to you; 64bit is well supported now
[05:59] <San_> jeffhmb, asnt?
[05:59] <gluonman> Necrogami, bazhang, thanks
[05:59] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: boy you read way more into that than i even suggested.. where the hell did you get all that?
[05:59] <Hans_Henrik> Psinetic: whats wrong with grub?
[05:59] <jeffhmb> San_, what is asnt?
[05:59] <Necrogami> jeffhmb: good luck .. he's not on ubuntu right now so we can't walk him through step by step
[06:00] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: well that's what i thought you meant. sry
[06:00] <[V]ortex`> hello how do i map local drives (non ext. format) upon startup automatically?
[06:00] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: i think thats part of the problem you're not listening
[06:00] <cycrosism> ok i instaled it ctmjr
[06:00] <Psinetic> Hans_Henrik: grub doesn't work. that's what's wrong :P
[06:00] <maxjezy> Psinetic, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[06:00] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, videos and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) :/
[06:00] <jeffhmb> Necrogami, also he seems to think this is sms or twitter
[06:00] <maxjezy> follow that guide dude
[06:00] <Necrogami> jeffhmb: lol
[06:00] <foo_> Anyone else get the Grub Error 15 after 9.10 install?
[06:00] <IndyGunFreak> maxjezy: thats for grub1
[06:00] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, throw them in your /etc/fstab, with largely the same syntax, just need to change the fs option
[06:00] <jeffhmb> San_, ;-)
[06:00] <Hans_Henrik> Psinetic: like... error?
[06:00] <Psinetic> maxjezy: that might work if i had the right live cd, but i don't
[06:01] <cycrosism> ctmjr: what should I try now?
[06:01] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, sorry my stone
[06:01] <San_> jeffhmb, loL!hahah
[06:01] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: what do  you mean? sorry i'm new
[06:01] <Psinetic> Hans_Henrik: yes, it gives me an error on bootup saying it can't mount the disk at all and says something about two UUID's (dunno what that is)
[06:01] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, no hard feelings bro, just try to help out
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> maxjezy: here's the problem, since you've not folowed it at all,, he's trying to use a 9.04 disk(which uses grub1) to fix a 9.10 problem(which uses grub2), now if you're gonna tell people there's other ways to do things(insinuating i don't know), at least know whats going on
[06:01] <frank_b> I have 8.10 installed on a laptop and want to upgrade directly to 9.10, bypassing 9.04. What's the "apt-get dist-upgrade" command I have to use?
[06:01] <celestial> hi, after upgrading to 9.10, usb mice stopped working (touchpad is fine) what's the problem?
[06:02] <frank_b> (hi everyone)
[06:02] <maf2> hi
[06:02] <IndyGunFreak> maxjezy: but when you're not even paying attention to the conversation, you don't help at all.
[06:02] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, google "adding mount points to fstab" or something like that, it should take you through it.
[06:02] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, i just got up from bed
[06:02] <bazhang> frank_b, there isnt one
[06:02] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: ok thanks
[06:02] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: do you have a 2gig thumb drive?
[06:02] <jeffhmb> Kate, I had to manually clear out the partition identifiers so the auto-raid kernel code wouldn't fire up during install.
[06:02] <ctmjr> cycrosism:but they both need some configuration i use mplayer and freevo to watch tv
[06:02] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: i think we're all a little frustrated. the irc is flooded with people having problems left and right.
[06:02] <losha> frank_b: if your 8.10 does all you need, I'm not even sure why you'd want to upgrade...
[06:02] <frank_b> bazhang, oh, ok. yes, I was begining to suspect that. thank you very much for your answer. take care.
[06:02] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: i'll have to look
[06:02] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, the file you'll want to edit is /etc/fstab (File System TABle}
[06:03] <Necrogami> IndyGunFreak: are you actually in indy?
[06:03] <maxjezy> anyone got a mobile connection to help me out?
[06:03] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: i'm not frustrated at alll, all he's done is make undercut sugestions that i'm tellignn you something wrong, and he knows squat about whats going on
[06:03] <bazhang> frank_b, do you have a separate home partition
[06:03] <frank_b> losha, I guess it's always a good idea to have the latest software
[06:03] <jeffhmb> Kate, I believe I did this from within the live CD, or perhaps using my old favorite for fixing stuff, sysresccd.
[06:03] <IndyGunFreak> Necrogami: beech grove more specifically, but yes
[06:03] <Necrogami> IndyGunFreak: did you goto BGHS?
[06:03] <cycrosism> ctmjr: How do I configure them?
[06:03] <ctmjr> cycrosism: are you in the usa?
[06:03] <cycrosism> ctmjr: Australia
[06:03] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: ok, well, then let's move on and see if we can't nick this thing in the bud. let me go to the restroom and grab an energy drink.
[06:03] <jeffhmb> Kate, I have no idea if ubuntu has made any changes to deal with this situation.
[06:04] <jbuncher> losha, because it's going to be EOL in 6 months anyway?
[06:04] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: Ok thanks for the input! i'll upgrade to 9.10 and change from there
[06:04] <IndyGunFreak> Necrogami: nope, when i was younger, i lived in Indy, and went to howe
[06:04] <losha> frank_b: actually, the smart money says it's always a good idea to run a couple of releases behind the 'bleeding edge'
[06:04] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, now i know. but i keep my mouth shut cuz you can help him out, i thought he got the 9.10 or windows installed. really morningtired.
[06:04] <frank_b> bazhang, in this computer no. otherwise I could play with that, yes. I know how could I do that if I have seperate root and home partitions. thanks
[06:04] <Necrogami> lol okay IndyGunFreak i graduated from bghs that's why i asked lol
[06:04] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, you should be able to get it set up in 9.04 first
[06:04] <Kate> Hmm
[06:04] <Kate> Weird. =/
[06:04] <Kate> Ya
[06:04] <IndyGunFreak> maxjezy: its best you stay quiet, lol...
[06:04] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, what is the filesystem you are trying to get mounted at boot automatically?
[06:04] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: after i upgrade, will the settings keep?
[06:04] <Kate> It's kinda annoying. There is purge_lvm..
[06:04] <IndyGunFreak> he did get 9.10 installed
[06:04] <pwnguin> so im having an unexpected difficulty; i upgraded to 9.10 and now firefox doesn't know how to handle .torrent files
[06:04] <Kate> But no purge_raid option :(
[06:04] <frank_b> losha, oh, ok. :) I didn't know that. my experience tells me you might be right. thanks for the tip :)
[06:04] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: windows xp, cos my rthymplayer keeps not detecting the songs i have on my other hdd
[06:05] <jeffhmb> Kate, are these boot command-line options?
[06:05] <maxjezy> yeah
[06:05] <celestial> hi, can't get usb mice to work, i have two of them and none of them is working, though i clearly see its red light. usb thumbdrive is working fine and i don't know why i'm having trouble with just mice. someone help.
[06:05] <maxjezy> so, help me out then.
[06:05] <bravo03> pwnguin, FF isnt reading a torrent when asked to open or save?
[06:05] <Kate> installer through preseed file
[06:05] <cycrosism> ctmjr: I know Australia uses PAL?
[06:05] <silentx> Hey .. I have Ubuntu 9.10 .. and there is Keys issue " the output of apt-get update is attached " .. I have tried to clean the apt-get but the problem still the same .. could you help me please .. http://pastebin.com/m3b9c0847
[06:05] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, they should, yes.  Do you know what partition (/dev/sda1 or whatever) that your xp partition is on?  and where you would like to mount it to?
[06:05] <losha> frank_b: most people assume newer is always better. That might be true for cars or refrigerators, but it isn't true for software...
[06:05] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: another hdd
[06:05] <jeffhmb> I didn't think to look for that.
[06:06] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: what do you mean? i don't understand?
[06:06] <frank_b> losha, :) I see...
[06:06] <cab938_lappy> Andyone use the update-motd package?
[06:06] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: my 9.10 download is completing soon within 1 min.. and appartenly it says i cannot stop after it starts installing
[06:06] <ctmjr> cycrosism: look in /usr/share/dvb there should be freq's for your location
[06:06] <jeffhmb> I just set the partition types to Linux (83) after being very confused for a while.
[06:06] <cab938_lappy> it says it installs in usr/sbin/update-motd, but there is nothing there
[06:06] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: so i think i'll do it in 9.10; there is no diff right?
[06:06] <cycrosism> ctmjr: But I don't think it is detecting it
[06:06] <Bragex9> I have major problems after upgrading to 9.10. The computer will not start properly. Only a black command screen...And I have no idea about how to operate from there
[06:06] <pretender> running unr 9.10 how do i stop that unr launchuncher and get back t the normal gnome thats in ubuntu
[06:06] <jeffhmb> I had forgotten that my recycled disks had been used in a different raid array.
[06:07] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, there shouldn't be any difference, correct.
[06:07] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: ok, i have to restart; if i have any problems i'll come back; thanks alot!!
[06:07] <frank_b> losha, and thinking better... I think I'm gonna take your advice on that. it's the computer my mom uses, and she's not interested on the latest features, just on functionality... :)
[06:07] <D7> is there a way to switch to regular desktop mode in netbook remix?
[06:07] <bravo03> D7, i don't believe so in 9.10
[06:07] <bravo03> somebody please correct me if i am wrong
[06:08] <jeffhmb> I'm getting about 15 kB/s for my upgrade speed.
[06:08] <jeffhmb> About 20 hours remaining.
[06:08] <jeffhmb> Nice.
[06:08] <almoxarife> silentx: did you use 'sudo'
[06:08] <gluonman> What is an optimal partition table for a dual-boot Ubuntu and Win7?
[06:08] <jbuncher> frank_b, on the other hand, if you're using Intrepid (8.10), security updates for desktop-related packages for that distro will stop in about 6 months, so you'll want to upgrade anyway.
[06:08] <D7> bravo03, really? bummer, I really liked 9.4 in regular desktop mode
[06:08] <losha> frank_b: in that case, leave well enough alone and use the time you saved yourself to make a backup of 8.10 in case you need it....
[06:08] <silentx> almoxarife: in which way ?
[06:08] <frank_b> losha, I might upgrade only later, some weeks from now, after some bugs have been solved...
[06:08] <jbuncher> gluonman, one for root, one for home, one for swap, zero for win 7 (har har har)
[06:09] <almoxarife> sudo apt-get............................................
[06:09] <silentx> yes .. that what i have done in the output attached
[06:09] <NoCode> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/10/fixing-popping-sound-in-ubuntu-karmic.html IS this safe to do to get rid of the popping noises in Karmic?
[06:09] <gluonman> jbuncher, I'm setting this up for work. So that's not very helpful.
[06:09] <nascentmind> hi. After i installed virtualbox and tried to install ubuntu 64 bit on it, it gives an error saying "installing 64 bit on an i686". my host os is ubuntu 64bit karmic. how can i fix this?
[06:09] <frank_b> losha, ok
[06:10] <losha> jbuncher: actually, unless there's a feature you cannot live without, 8.04 looks like the most stable release
[06:10] <frank_b> jbuncher, yes, like I said, I think I'll wait some weeks for bugs to be fixed and then install 9.10 before the support for 8.10 ends
[06:10] <ctmjr> cycrosism: according to your dmesg it loaded the driver and the firmware
[06:10] <cycrosism> ctmjr: But me-tv says no drivers are found and so does mythtv
[06:10] <jbuncher> gluonman, if it's anything like vista, I have 2 vista partitions on /dev/sda1 (that's the recovery), /dev/sda2 (Vista), and the /dev/sda3 is my root install, then /dev/sda5 is /home, with /dev/sda6 the swap.  It works well for me.
[06:10] <IndyGunFreak> losha: that is 100% ridiculous, why do you spread nonsense?
[06:10] <IndyGunFreak> 8.04, is just as stable as 8.10, and 9.04
[06:11] <jeffhmb> 8.04 is LTS, so it's a good choice for stability.
[06:11] <jeffhmb> I've been using it on my server since just after it came out.
[06:11] <silentx> almoxarife: yes .. that what i have done in the output attached
[06:11] <jeffhmb> Very solid, and only updates that are security or critical bugs.
[06:11] <bigfootbuilt> Anyone else noticing more lockups with 9.10, on laptops in particular?
[06:11] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: 8.04 LTS, has only to do with a corporate environment, where you have t omaintain a lot of machines, or ins ome cases a server
[06:11] <Bragex9> is there a way to go back to the previoios version of ubuntu? Nothing works after installing 9.10. The computer won't even start. I only get to the command line...
[06:12] <jbuncher> losha, yeah, I'm still running 8.04 for my "production" partitions.  Can't remember why intrepid didn't work.  Jaunty's intel issues and the horrible version of kile they packaged made that a non-starter.  Karmic is quite solid though.
[06:12] <frank_b> well, I better get going. thank you very much for your help and for your tips, bazhang, losha and jbuncher. take care all of you. ;)
[06:12] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, some experience 9.04 less stable with intel grafics than 8.04.
[06:12] <nascentmind> anybody?
[06:12] <gluonman> jbuncher, thank you.
[06:12] <losha> IndyGunFreak: actually, I don't know of any statistics, official or otherwise, to prove it your way or mine...
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> maxjezy: you've lost all credibility with me, so what you say means little
[06:12] <almoxarife> silentx: I saw it, hang on
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> losha: which is why its nonsense to suggest such a thing w/o evidence..
[06:12] <jbuncher> gluonman, I should add that partitions 5 and 6 are in an extended partition, as you can only have 4 primaries on a disk.
[06:13] <maxjezy> that's sick thinking
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> 8.04 LTS, doesnt mean its more stable, it means ubuntu will support it with security updates for(i think) 3yrs.
[06:13] <silentx> almoxarife: oky .. Thnx for your help in advanced ..
[06:13] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, I realize that. I use it on my home server.
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: then why are you telling people LTS is more stable?
[06:13] <pwnguin> bravo03: sorry, paged elsewhere momentarily. it seems to download to /tmp but doesn't launch deluge when told what to run
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> its not...
[06:13] <gluonman> jbuncher, alright.
[06:13] <ctmjr> cycrosism: run ls /dev/dvb/adapter0 or just ls /dev/dvb
[06:14] <bravo03> pwnguin, just save torrent and right click open with deluge for now ... : /
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> LTS has nothing to do w/ stability
[06:14] <jbuncher> IndyGunFreak, next one will, though.
[06:14] <pwnguin> bravo03: i got that part, but this used to work
[06:14] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, it's more stable in the sense that you can leave it alone once it is working for you, but still get security and critical updates.
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> unless you consider not upgrading every 6mo
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: i mentioned that
[06:14] <jbu> hi all...can i revert the upgrade to 9.10 somehow?
[06:14] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, super great!
[06:14] <jbu> back to 9.04
[06:14] <jbu> sound doesnt work
[06:14] <bravo03> pwnguin, look under your FF settings and maybe you clicked "Always do this for now on" Option by accident
[06:14] <losha> IndyGunFreak: it's my considered *opinion*. You're welcome to your own. I will note that you don't seem to understand the software life-cycle...
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: but thats not stability, thats support...
[06:14] <Anarki2004> I have a legit copy of windows xp home(fresh install), and I just installed ubuntu 9.10. I now get the error message inside grub "device not found". any help?
[06:14] <pwnguin> bravo03: always do what action?
[06:15] <pwnguin> do nothing is an action?
[06:15] <Hans_Henrik> jbu: tried go on sound-settings->hardware ?
[06:15] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, whatever, I'll let you get back to winning your argument with the other guy.
[06:15] <IndyGunFreak> losha: lol, i'll note never to get advice from you, i understand the software lifecycle perfectly
[06:15] <pwnguin> bravo03: TORRENT file: Always Ask
[06:15] <bravo03> pwnguin, Main>Downloads
[06:15] <jbu> Hans_Henrik, are you talking about system->preferences->sound->hardware?
[06:15] <IndyGunFreak> losha: you insinuated LTS is more stable, and its not... its simply supported longer.... there's probably still bugs w/ 8.04 that haven't been worked out
[06:15] <Hans_Henrik> jbu: yup
[06:15] <bravo03> pwnguin, Okay good, so it works now?
[06:16] <Hans_Henrik> jbu: is it "disabled" there?
[06:16] <pwnguin> no
[06:16] <losha> IndyGunFreak: that's fine. Can we agree to disagree and move on?
[06:16] <jbu> Hans_Henrik, no, there's nothing listed
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> losha: only if you stop spreading BS.
[06:16] <Hans_Henrik> oh
[06:16] <bravo03> pwnguin, no idea.
[06:16] <Anarki2004> I have a legit copy of windows xp home(fresh install), and I just installed ubuntu 9.10. I now get the error message inside grub "device not found" when trying to boot ubuntu. Windows boots fine. Any help?
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> thast the 3rd time you've said that nonsense
[06:17] <demonspork> Anarki2004, you are in window right now?
[06:17] <jbuncher> IndyGunFreak, that could be true, but that also means 8.04 has had over a year of bugfixes since it's release, and 3 point releases since then to help with installer issues.  Also, the next LTS will certainly be "more stable", that's part of the dev plan.
[06:17] <IndyGunFreak> jbuncher: because the next LTS.. will be a NEW VERSION.. so yes, it will be more stable.
[06:17] <IndyGunFreak> jeez... talk about throwing smoke on an issue...
[06:18] <Bragex9> somone please hlp get my ubuntu pc work again....
[06:18] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, oh lord, that's ridiculous.
[06:18] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: whatever... use LTS if you like, i could truthfully care less, but spreading lies really helps nobody.
[06:18] <jbuncher> IndyGunFreak, no, it will be more stable than previous releases because they're going to sync with debian testing and not be a feature based released, unlike all previous releases (including LTS ones) where they sync with unstable.
[06:18] <bravo03> LTS is suppose to resemble a milestone for each release
[06:19] <Benalex> Folks, this is a support channel, would you guys please move your argument somewhere else? and leave this main for technical question
[06:19] <Benalex> s
[06:19] <pwnguin> jeffhmb: Canonical will typically dedicate more effort to testing and bugfixing leading up to an LTS
[06:19] <Hans_Henrik> jbu: here's ppl with same problem, maybe you should read it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1178856
[06:19] <IndyGunFreak> jbuncher: lol, ok...
[06:19] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, I use both the the LTS and the latest. It just depends on the application. This "spreading lies" stuff is just inflammatory.
[06:19] <jbuncher> IndyGunFreak, why is that funny
[06:19] <jbu> Hans_Henrik, I appreciate the help, I'll look at it now....looks like the thread is describing my same driver
[06:19] <jbu> hardware*
[06:20] <cycrosism> ctmjr: ls: cannot access /dev/dvb/: No such file or directory
[06:20] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: cconsidering i wasn't talking to you anyways, nor really referring to anything you said, you shouldn't be taking it personally.. you clearly don't have a clue how this discussion started
[06:20] <jeffhmb> pwnguin: They really didn't for 8.04 LTS in some areas. But, I really give them credit for cleaning it up in the month or two after the first release.
[06:21] <pwnguin> Anyone else having troubles opening torrent files with firefox? (ie http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt)
[06:21] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, didn't stop you from lumping me in with the "lies" crowd.
[06:21] <Psinetic> How do i copy an ISO image from ubuntu over rdesktop to windows xp?
[06:21] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, videos and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) :/
[06:21] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: then don't get involved int he conversation... i hadn't said a word to you till you butted in
[06:22] <assoguerozen_sx> directx 10 works in wine?
[06:22] <Bragex9> what does "update grub bootloader" mean? Can that fix the problem with 9.10 not booting?
[06:23] <Banjooie> So I have dragged out an old computer after one of mine died in an unfortunate power outage
[06:23] <San234> plzzzz tell me how to install .bz or .gz files in ubuntu
[06:23] <Banjooie> It is still on feisty, and I am having a heck of a time upgrading this sucker, because I can't apt-get install update-manager.
[06:23] <fire_> hi, can someone help me with getting my 9.10 install working?
[06:23] <Banjooie> Because it has a bunch of dependencies I can't seem to fix. Where should I go to read how to fix this?
[06:24] <jeffhmb> pwnguin, works for me on 9.04 -- Transmission opens up.
[06:24] <MinusSeven> with grub, is the process the same as before with menu.lst, where you edit the file?
[06:24] <MinusSeven> or is there something else I have to edit?
[06:24] <d9500> San234, you mean tar.gz and tar.bz2 files?
[06:24] <jeffhmb> San234, .bz and .gz files are just compressed files.
[06:25] <bluegoon> 9.10 rocks baby!!!!!!
[06:25] <bluegoon> it rocks!
[06:25] <jbuncher> Banjooie, I'm not even sure if you can, Fiesty and its successor (Gutsy) are both End-Of-Life on the desktop at least, so I don't know if you can even upgrade them anymore.
[06:25] <aleix> hi, can anyone tell me where to find karmic's cds md5 sums?
[06:25] <Banjooie> Right. Right, that is the bit I want to /fix/.
[06:25] <fire_> I believe my GUI won't load.
[06:25] <Hans_Henrik> fire_: i guess there's someone here that can help you yes, but try be more informative with your help-request-post :p
[06:25] <Banjooie> Alternately: This thing is only a 1ghz 256mb ram thingy, is it worth my while to try to upgrade anyway?
[06:25] <Banjooie> Or should I just, like, try to find ancient software considering all it has to do is basically run finch
[06:26] <Benalex> MinusSeven GRUB 2 Basics in here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[06:26] <Hans_Henrik> banjooie: i'd say yes
[06:26] <MinusSeven> thanks
[06:26] <Banjooie> To the first or the last thing
[06:26] <d9500> san234, or by "install" do you mean that you've downloaded a source tarball (for example "source_foo.tar.gz), and you want to know how to compile and install the program?
[06:26] <Hans_Henrik> Banjooie: low spec, upgrade anyway? question.
[06:26] <fire_> well when I boot into Ubuntu (9.10) the little white ubuntu logo appears, but then a terminal login appears, that's flickering and won't let me enter anything. I then tried booting via recovery mode. That allowed me to type something in, but when I tried 'startx' it says no screens were found (or nvidia drivers or something)
[06:26] <Banjooie> Oh.
[06:26] <maxjizzy> Banjooie, i'm on 900mhz and 256 ram and 16mb grafic. it is superfast.
[06:26] <Banjooie> Okay. Awesome.
[06:26] <roccity_> Banjooie, you can try the mini cd and install xfce-core on it and build from there
[06:26] <jbuncher> Banjooie, can't say, not even sure what finch is :)  If you're just planning on having a stripped down box, maybe try debian or something where you can customize the install a bit more.
[06:27] <negativeglow> hey yall
[06:27] <Banjooie> The trick here is I am really trying for a low-effort option where I just type things and they happen, as opposed to things where I have to burn CDs. I will /do/ that if I have to I just really don't want to
[06:27] <Hans_Henrik> Banjooie: btw tried Xubuntu?
[06:27] <Banjooie> Well, no.
[06:27] <Bragex9> fire, exactly the same problem with my 9.10
[06:27] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, fire_, what video card?
[06:27] <Benalex> San234 Please read this http://amitech.50webs.com/installing/index.php.html#source
[06:28] <roccity_> Banjooie, what about crunchbang?
[06:28] <fire_> jeffhmb: NVIDIA GeForce4
[06:28] <Banjooie> My god but my ignorance is showing--I am assuming that is some kind of fancy desktop manager
[06:28] <roccity_> Banjooie, it has heaps of stuff that works out of the box
[06:28] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, I am not sure whick videocard. I think nvidia something
[06:28] <Banjooie> Mostly: I need to be able to A: surf the web to some degree (no sound required) and B: utilize delicious IM clients
[06:28] <jeffhmb> lspci |grep VGA
[06:28] <jeffhmb> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV31 [GeForce FX 5600] (rev a1)
[06:28] <arussel> I'm having this error: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Cannot load 64-bit SWT libraries on 32-bit JVM when starting eclipse on karmic. Can anyone help ?
[06:28] <Banjooie> Also I guess a telnet program
[06:28] <jeffhmb> Try, "lspci |grep VGA"
[06:29] <jeffhmb> You guys are starting to scare me with NVidia driver problems.
[06:29] <maxjizzy> Banjooie, try SSL
[06:29] <Benalex> Same here
[06:29] <fire_> in cmd line, jeffhmb?
[06:29] <fire_> or 'terminal'
[06:29] <jeffhmb> I will have Karmic in between 6 and 30 hours. :-)
[06:29] <Yanick_> thanks to all those who helped me, I finally booted 9.10 with no white screen :)
[06:29] <Yanick_> yay!
[06:29] <fire_> whatever you call it :p ;)
[06:30] <jeffhmb> fire_, you have to type that in a terminal or in one of the virtual consoles.
[06:30] <jbuncher> jeffhmb, I upgaded from jaunty with a 6800 GT and it works fine (maybe it's a GTX?  can't remember)
[06:30] <arussel> is there a ia32 java packages on karmic ?
[06:30] <wooly> Hi all, I did a fresh install of 9.10 and I set my encrypted home partition to mount as home, and I told it it needed a username/password to decrypt/mount. I used the same username/pass as the previous install.
[06:30] <Hans_Henrik> Banjooie: you should read/consider this sometime http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/xubuntu
[06:30] <jeffhmb> jbuncher, yeah, but that's much newer than mine.
[06:30] <fire_> alright i'll try it in recovery mode.
[06:30] <Banjooie> I am frankly cool with whatever.
[06:30] <Banjooie> I am just really hoping I can pull something that doesn't require burning a CD
[06:30] <jeffhmb> fire_, what if you do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to a console?
[06:30] <wooly> unfortunately the home doesnt mount and I just have a .desktop file and a readme.txt. WHen I run ecryptfs-mount-private it says it's not setup properly. Can anyone help? I made a thread here Hi all, I did a fresh install of 9.10 and I set my encrypted home partition to mount as home, and I told it it needed a username/password to decrypt/mount. I used the same username/pass as the previous install.
[06:31] <raik> DSL internet not working on new 9.10 ubuntu?
[06:31] <jbuncher> jeffhmb, yeah, but not *that* much newer than a 5600.  1 year tops?
[06:31] <wooly> and since my home directory isnt writable, the OS/desktop is pretty much useless
[06:31] <Kate> Hmm
[06:31] <fire_> i'm in a console now
[06:31] <wooly> err that was supposed to be a link, not the same paragraph again
[06:31] <wooly> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8201612
[06:31] <jbuncher> Yanick_, how'd you fix it?
[06:32] <jeffhmb> jbuncher, I ran into a problem when upgrading from intrepid to jaunty with my nvidia drivers.
[06:32] <jeffhmb> it was a common problem and I found most of what I needed to know on launchpad, but it was a little nerve-wracking.
[06:32] <[V]ortex`> hello i just upgraded to 9.10, but it doesn't look any different.   I *think* that went well for me, though I did it a while ago so I can't remember.  I know they were certainly *eventually* working, though.
[06:32] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: lsb_release -a
[06:33] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: do i type that into the terminal?
[06:33] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, yup
[06:33] <fire_> jeffhmb: it returned 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce 4 MX 440 AGP Hx] (rev a2)
[06:33] <wooly> does anyone know how to decrypt and mount my encrypted home directory
[06:33] <paulus68> I just did a fresh install of 9.10 however I notice that my processor is running like crazy any thoughts what the reason can be? running 9.10 64 on 2ghz with 2 gigs of ram
[06:33] <Hans_Henrik> Banjooie: umm.. maybe you should go at #Xubuntu and ask how to change desktop environment.. (add Xubuntu repo's, uninstall gnome, install Xfce~)
[06:33] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: ok yep karmic it is
[06:33] <raik> does ubuntu 9.10 support DSL connection?
[06:33] <jeffhmb> fire_, what does "dpkg -l nvidia* | grep ^ii" show you?
[06:33] <Banjooie> okay
[06:34] <DaveyAM> guys synaptic send me error when i try to download packs... i did use a proxy configuration today in my job but iam without proxy now.. synaptic try to connect to proxy :S
[06:34] <Yanick_> jbuncher, I did "sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep radeon" (and fglrx) and removed them all, thus allowing me to boot without white screen. I then reinstalled everything, re-activated the restricted drivers from hardware manager and everything was fine
[06:34] <[V]ortex`> Does 9.10 uninstall firefox 3.5? how come my links are broken?
[06:34] <jbuncher> Yanick_, ah, so was the problem with the open drivers?
[06:34] <lstarnes> raik: I haven't heard anything about it not supporting DSL
[06:34] <goose> DaveyAM: then disable your proxy
[06:34] <qq99> how does one find a file in linux?! never before would I have thought this so annoying, but with the myriad of package managers installing everything to cryptically named directories, you'd think something would be done about this
[06:34] <Yanick_> jbuncher, note that, when reinstalling the packages, some new packages were also installed, which I had not before
[06:34] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: it installs 3.5
[06:34] <qq99> I'm looking for mysql_config
[06:34] <jeffhmb> Yanick_, that's the general approach I took when upgrading from Intrepid to Jaunty as well, although with nvidia drivers.
[06:34] <sloggerkhan> So mplayer doesn't work on 9.10 for me...
[06:34] <goose> qq99: "find" in terminal
[06:35] <lstarnes> qq99: locate mysql_config
[06:35] <goose> sloggerkhan: use VLC? It's better anyways, imo
[06:35] <DaveyAM> is done... but error continue...
[06:35] <raik> lstarnes my dsl internet conenction is failing to connect in new ubtuntu 9.10 ?
[06:35] <sloggerkhan> vlc sucks
[06:35] <wooly> does anyone know how to decrypt and mount my encrypted home directory
[06:35] <qq99> lstarnes: returns nothing
[06:35] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: does this mean firefox 3 is uninstalled?
[06:35] <Yanick_> jeffhmb, I suspect it was the fglrx kernel driver....
[06:35] <jbuncher> jeffhmb, I may have done that when upgradeing as well.  Almost certainly didn't that when going from hardy to intrepid at least.
[06:35] <jeffhmb> It really seems like Ubuntu needs to automate this fallback process to non-proprietary drivers.
[06:35] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: no
[06:35] <fire_> jeffhmb: No packages foudn matching nvidia.
[06:35] <fire_> ..is what it returned.
[06:35] <qq99> goose: returns find: `mysql_config': No such file or directory
[06:35] <sloggerkhan> vlc with 9.10 doesn't even do vdpau
[06:35] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: 3.0 has been replaced
[06:35] <lstarnes> qq99: try locate my.cnf
[06:35] <goose> qq99: it's "locate", then. I forgot which command.
[06:36] <hydester> hi.  i was upgrade my amd64 from jaunty to karmic and it froze part way through.  now i can't boot back into the OS.  is there a smart way to salvage the install/upgrade via CD/DVD?
[06:36] <wooly> does anyone know how to decrypt and mount my encrypted home directory? Thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8201612
[06:36] <matyd> is there any way to move /home or should i repartition? i just used the default partition layout when i installed 9.04 kubuntu heh
[06:36] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, you can install firefox-3.0 from the universe repository still, I think.  The only reason to do so would be if you have plugins that haven't been updated for 3.5 yet
[06:36] <zedster> anyone get intel-hda audio to work in 9.10?
[06:36] <qq99> lstarnes: thanks, I think I found it
[06:36] <sloggerkhan> normally I use smplayer, but all mplayers are not working with any video overaly... x11, xv, vdpau, etc
[06:36] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: ok thanks; i'm supposed to create keyring... do you know waht is that? wrt empathy
[06:36] <jbuncher> zedster, what chipset?
[06:36] <sloggerkhan> incidentally, flash no longer works full screen
[06:36] <Tekmoor> Hi, a question for anyone: can ubuntu write/read properly to partitions that are formatted by vista/win7?
[06:36] <wooly> Tekmoor: yes
[06:37] <zedster> jbuncher: stac52xx
[06:37] <goose> Tekmoor: yes, it can handle FAT
[06:37] <DaveyAM> iam without proxy conf now.. soo why synaptic try to use it?? :s
[06:37] <jeffhmb> fire_, I think you left the * off the end of nvidia.
[06:37] <goose> DaveyAM: have you tried rebooting?
[06:37] <IndyGunFreak> Tekmoor: it should read/write NTFS ok also...
[06:37] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, I have the same problem as Fire. During installation I got several error messages about nvidia... 173 or something
[06:37] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, it's the place where gnome will safely store passwords and things like that.
[06:37] <zedster> jbuncher: dell d830
[06:37] <DaveyAM> yes
[06:37] <fire_> oh.. I did. haahah thanks.
[06:37] <DaveyAM> 2 times
[06:37] <wooly> does anyone know how to decrypt and mount my encrypted home directory? Thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8201612
[06:37] <paulus68> !patience | wooly
[06:37] <paulus68> I just did a fresh install of 9.10 however I notice that my processor is running like crazy any thoughts what the reason can be? running 9.10 64 on 2ghz with 2 gigs of ram
[06:37] <Tekmoor> The reason I ask is I thought I read that ntfs is different in vista versus xp
[06:37] <jbuncher> zedster, ok, I don't have that one.  My intel audio is working though.
[06:37] <raik> my dsl connection not connecting on new 9.10? need help!!!
[06:37] <fire_> jeffhmb:  there's 4 results
[06:38] <fire_> do you want me to post them?
[06:38] <zedster> jbuncher: can you pastbin me your alsa.conf?
[06:38] <IndyGunFreak> Tekmoor: i dunno, all i know, is i mount read/write ntfs partitions no problem
[06:38] <jeffhmb> fire_, Sure.
[06:38] <fire_> alright.
[06:38] <lstarnes> raik: what kind of modem are you using?
[06:38] <jbuncher> zedster, sure, if you tell me where to find it
[06:38] <matyd> when you install ubuntu and select the default partitioning (all of the hd) is there a way to install say 9.10 or any other version for that matter freshly without losing all your stuff?
[06:38] <Tekmoor> IndyGunFreak: cool and they were formatted by vista or in linux?
[06:38] <fire_> 1st one is: nvidia-173-modaliases 173.14.20-0ubuntu5
[06:38] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, what's your video card?
[06:38] <wooly> can someone tell me how to decrypt and mount my home partition? I set the username/pass the same in the install and told it it had to decrypt/mount but it didnt do anything!! Please help I have an unusable OS now!
[06:38] <raik> i have a wireless ISP so modem is not really there. lstarnes
[06:38] <zedster> jbuncher: /etc/modprobe/alsa.conf
[06:39] <paulus68> !patience | wooly
[06:39] <[V]ortex`> ugh the program "telephathy butterfly" crashed on my; only that i didn't even know it was running, what gives?
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> Tekmoor: honestly, i can't remember.
[06:39] <DaveyAM> i dont know what is the problem with my synaptic...
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> i've had it set up this way for years
[06:39] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, I am not sure what my videocard is..
[06:39] <lstarnes> raik: so you're connecting using a wireless card?
[06:39] <Tekmoor> IndyGunFreak: okay thanks!
[06:39] <fire_> 2nd one: nvidia-185-modaliases 185.18.36-0ubuntu9
[06:39] <jbuncher> zedster:  don't have one, do have /etc/modprobe/alsa-base.conf though   Want that one?
[06:39] <raik> an antenae is connected at rooftop and that comes to splitter and to my pc. lstarnes
[06:40] <zedster> jbuncher: yes, my bad
[06:40] <[V]ortex`> what is the program "telephathy butterfly"? does anyone know?
[06:40] <node357> Hi, congrats on new Ubuntu. Anyone know how to enable line-in on a SB X-Fi card?
[06:40] <fire_> 3rd one: nvidia-96-modaliases 96.43.13-0ubunutu6
[06:40] <lstarnes> raik: what is your pc connected to?  is it using an ethernet cable?
[06:40] <Tekmoor> I'm sure I read that vista formats ntfs differently than xp and it's not fully supported by ubuntu... but maybe I'm crazy
[06:40] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, can you get to a console? Use Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[06:40] <fire_> anddd last one: nvidia-common 0.2.15
[06:40] <fire_> ^^ jeffhmb
[06:41] <jeffhmb> fire_, Bragex9, I'm probably going to hit the same problem as you guys.... in about 13 hours.
[06:41] <fire_> :s
[06:41] <DaveyAM> iam using pidgin and firefox with the new no proxy config without problems.. but synaptic try to connect using proxy conf.. i need to do something more ? :S
[06:41] <fire_> so you can't help us? :(
[06:41] <jeffhmb> fire_, Bragex9, take a look at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288302
[06:41] <truzzi> I just installed ubuntu 9.04 in my laptop.... killall doesnt work in ubuntu? o.O ( I keep trying to kill wpa_supplicant but it never goes >.< ) any ideas? And also when I plug my ethernet cable it doesn't recognize it...
[06:41] <jbuncher> zedster, http://paste.ubuntu.com/305677/
[06:41] <lstarnes> truzzi: try sudo killall wpa_supplicant
[06:41] <zedster> truzzi: have you tried sudo killall -9
[06:42] <lstarnes> truzzi: if that fails, add the -9 option
[06:42] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, the problem is that my keyboard does not have the function keys....
[06:42] <fire_> ah, thanks jeffhmb! :)
[06:42] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, pretty sure the butterfly protocol lets telepathy/empathy chat on the msn network
[06:42] <truzzi> lstarnes: naaa, I was with root access ( sudo su )
[06:42] <fire_> i'll read.
[06:42] <truzzi> lstarnes: and I tryed kill -9 -now
[06:42] <lstarnes> truzzi: you should use sudo -i instead of sudo su
[06:42] <grumpan> Hi all
[06:42] <zedster> jbuncher: do you have pulse audio installed?
[06:42] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, surely you jest? Isn't there some way to enable them?
[06:42] <zedster> or oss?
[06:42] <node357> Does anyone know how to enable line-in on SB X-Fi card?
[06:43] <truzzi> lstarnes: I really doesnt like this in ubuntu, I am an old su man ;/
[06:43] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher, ok thanks!
[06:43] <wooly> anyone know of any other places I can go for support? Tried ubuntuforums and linuxquestions but havent go a response (besides the one that broke my system)
[06:43] <jbuncher> zedster, yup.
[06:43] <grumpan> pretty excited about karmic but UNR keeps freezing at startup & I have to hard shutdown :( anyone have any ideas?
[06:43] <zedster> jbuncher: lol, both?
[06:43] <node357> wooly, maybe you could ask here.
[06:43] <lstarnes> truzzi: sudo -i handles the environment better for me
[06:43] <poyntz> does anyhow know how to get xserver up and running again when upgrading to karmic broke it?
[06:43] <paulus68> DaveyAM: you should go into system administration synaptic package manager choose preferences network tab and see zhat is mentioned there
[06:43] <truzzi> lstarnes: but any ideas why it doesn't recognize the ethernet cable?
[06:43] <judibeefl> unr?
[06:43] <wooly> node357 I tried someone keeps telling me to "have patience"
[06:43] <zedster> grumpan: need more info, try telling grub to be verbose
[06:43] <wooly> does anyone know how to decrypt and mount my encrypted home directory? Thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8201612
[06:44] <lstarnes> truzzi: that sounds like either an issue with networkmanager or an issue with your drivers
[06:44] <[V]ortex`> how do i get rhythmbox to auto detect songs on other drives so that i don't have to keep loading them at startup?
[06:44] <jbuncher> zedster, I guess?  this karmic install is an upgrade from a jaunty fresh install, and I haven't really mucked with audio, so whatever should be there should be there
[06:44] <savior021> does anyone know of a player for ubuntu that supports m2ts????
[06:44] <poyntz> one of the most significant problems, is I can't do anything from console because I took my username out of the admin group :/
[06:44] <zedster> jbuncher: hmm... I did the same things and go nothing :-/
[06:44] <poyntz> so I can't use sudo...
[06:44] <jeffhmb> fire_, Bragex9, another thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8163944#post8163944
[06:44] <savior021> tried kaffeine but doesnt support
[06:44] <node357> yeah wooly, I've heard that... instead of trying to answer... people just tell you to be quiet.. I could try to help you, if you ask a question.
[06:44] <truzzi> lstarnes: I dont know.... the live cd worked amazingly
[06:44] <savior021> anyone?
[06:44] <fire_> it's working! :D
[06:45] <wooly> node357: i just did, about decrypting and mounting my home directory
[06:45] <fire_> thanks, jeffhmb! :)
[06:45] <lstarnes> poyntz: you could try booting into recovery mode and using gpasswd -a USERNAME admin
[06:45] <jbuncher> zedster, yeah, probably too different of chipsets or something.  I've really enjoyed the "all intel" chipset on this thing, haven't really had an issue with audio/graphics/wireless ever.
[06:45] <truzzi> i am now updating everything to see what happens lstarnes:
[06:45] <node357> oh sorry wooly, I wasn't here when you said it.
[06:45] <reflous> for some reason I can't select the font "Bitstream Vera Sans Roman" anyone know why that is & how I can fix it?
[06:45] <poyntz> lstarnes: I accidentally partitioned over recovery mode. is there another way?
[06:45] <zedster> jbuncher: ya, dell really messed up when they went with the stac chips
[06:45] <jeffhmb> fire_, please list the steps you did to get it working.
[06:45] <savior021> does anyone know of a player for ubuntu that supports m2ts????
[06:45] <fire_> the first link you posted.
[06:45] <fire_> someone had posted a method.
[06:46] <savior021> ???
[06:46] <fire_> I did it a little differently to what they did, so I'll post it.
[06:46] <Psinetic> I need some help. I'm on Ubuntu 9.04, i need to make a fresh install, but i can't burn the live cd b/c i only have one cd drive. Now I've got my windows laptop networked to my desktop directly (it doesn't have internet capability), i can rdesktop to it. i need to  transfer this .iso image for the 9.10 ubuntu over to the desktop of my windows computer. can anyone help me with this please?
[06:46] <jbuncher> reflous, it got replaced with the deja vu fonts, so it doesn't exist anymore.  This pisses off mathematica 6 by the way, so you'll want to set up a font substitution if that's what you're using.
[06:46] <lstarnes> poyntz: ubuntu's recovery mode uses the same partition as the regular install
[06:46] <node357> Sorry savior021, I don't know.
[06:46] <wooly> node357: i've got a thread about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305339 basically another guy said he had the same problem but the installer asked if he wanted to decrypt his home and it worked so I did that and it failed
[06:46] <lstarnes> poyntz: it should be an option in the grub menu
[06:46] <savior021> dayummmmm
[06:46] <jeffhmb> fire_, "dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-185-kernel-source" ?
[06:46] <jbuncher> zedster, what brand are the stac chips?  I don't think I've heard of them......
[06:46] <reflous> jbuncher, doh - what is an equivalent?
[06:46] <fire_> I did sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[06:46]  * node357 checks out the thread
[06:46] <poyntz> lstarnes: yeah, that's what I mean. it's not. all the recovery modes are for DL only :/
[06:46] <fire_> and then sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 in synaptic configuration is direct connection...
[06:47] <wooly> node357 thanks!
[06:47] <jbuncher> reflous, the deja vu fonts should be an equivalent, deja vu just has some extra glyphs and such apparently.
[06:47] <jbu> if someone puts a realtek karmic sound patch in the ubuntu store i will buy
[06:47] <lstarnes> poyntz: did you ever set a root password?
[06:47] <[V]ortex`> how do i install flash?
[06:47] <jeffhmb> fire_, OK, yes that often does the job. I was trying to help out somebody here yesterday, but that method did not work.
[06:47] <DaLvLaL> anyone here uses apt-p2p? I can't even get apt-get update to finish with that...it just freeze
[06:47] <jbuncher> reflous, from what I could tell, deja vu was a superset of bistream vera, so that's why bitstream vera got removed.
[06:47] <fire_> and then sudo aptitude install nvidia-173-kernal-source
[06:47] <fire_> and then startx
[06:47] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:47] <fire_> and boom! it worked :D
[06:47] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, should I try to do the same as Fire?
[06:47] <jeffhmb> fire_, oh, you needed 173?
[06:48] <fire_> I'm not sure.
[06:48] <zedster> jbuncher: stac is an idt holdover, I think they bought someone else and use the chip for a little
[06:48] <reflous> jbuncher, ah, man that looks a lot better, thanks a lot
[06:48] <lstarnes> wooly: I think there may be a way to recover data from ecryptfs, but I'll need some time to figure out the procedure
[06:48] <fire_> I just did what someone had said on the first link you posted for me to look at.
[06:48] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, the removal of the xorg.conf is always a good first thing to try.
[06:48] <Psinetic> anyone know how to do this pls?
[06:48] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, is there a package for media apps and fonts?
[06:48] <jbuncher> reflous, what were you trying to use that font in?
[06:48] <node357> Sorry wooly, no idea.. :(
[06:48] <fire_> Bragex9: It worked for me, can't hurt to try.
[06:48] <wooly> lstarnes: i have to recover? There's no way to simply mount it? I backed up /var/lib/ecryptfs if it's of any use
[06:48] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: ubuntu-restricted-extras and msttcorefonts might be relevant
[06:48] <raik> lstarnes, yes it is using ethernet cable.
[06:48] <reflous> jbuncher, for my fixed width font, every thing I picked made it look HORRIBLE until I tried DejaVu Sans Mono Book
[06:49] <wooly> node357 thanks for looking...I wish they would have this better supported before they included it in the OS!!
[06:49] <Bragex9> Fire, I wil try now
[06:49] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, that's waht i was looking for thanks!
[06:49] <wooly> especially when it can render your system useless
[06:49] <fire_> thanks for all the help :)
[06:49] <wooly> i cant write any configuration files to home so I have no desktop
[06:49] <poyntz> lstarnes: yeah, but I can't use sudo because I took my username out of the admin group :/
[06:49] <raik> lstarnes yes it is using ethernet cable
[06:49] <lstarnes> wooly: I'm not sure if you can copy that data into the new /var/lib/ecryptfs
[06:49] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, how do i access that restricted extras?
[06:49] <lstarnes> raik: I saw.  please try not to repeat
[06:49] <node357> I know wooly.. they release every 6 months whether its' ready or not... I'm still stuck in Windows :|
[06:49] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: it's a package.
[06:49] <wooly> yea /var/lib/ecryptfs isnt even used in 9.10 apparently
[06:49] <Random832> so... the icon isn't shown in the upper left corner anymore in the human theme... how do i get it back short of changing to a different window manager theme
[06:49] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, do i search for it in the synap?
[06:49] <fire_> is it Ctrl+Alt+Backspace that restarts graphics or something?
[06:50] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: yes.  it is a package
[06:50] <jbuncher> reflous, ah ok.  Well, glad it helped!  It took me *forever* to figure out why the mathematica 6 fonts in some places were ridiculously pixelated.  Apparently the choice of bitstream was hard-coded in somewhere, without a font substitution if it couldnt find them.  Had to stumble upon that one by accident and set up the right font substitution so things were sane.
[06:50] <Bragex9> Fire, was it the post of adder1972 you used to get it work?
[06:50] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: so you look for it in a package manager.
[06:50] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen,anyone one know how to fix it?
[06:50] <node357> fire_, you have to activate that key combination in the keyboard layout settings.
[06:50] <lstarnes> fire_: that restarts the display service
[06:50] <fire_> yes, Bragex9 :)
[06:50] <wooly> node357 so back to my other question...any other places where I can get support? I tried the ecryptfs irc but the server was down
[06:50] <fire_> node357: thanks I'll do that now.
[06:50] <lstarnes> raik: what is the ethernet cable connected to?
[06:50] <reflous> jbuncher, haha that is some bad coding
[06:50] <truzzi> there is any specific distribution for notebooks? or the 9.10 will work fine?
[06:50] <jeffhmb> fire_, that doesn't work in ubuntu by default. You have to enable that somewhere. You should be able to find it on google.
[06:50] <lstarnes> wooly: there's also ##linux on this network
[06:50] <jbuncher> zedster, ah ok.  I just have the ICH7 family hda intel audio.
[06:51] <wooly> thanks
[06:51] <jbuncher> reflous, that's Wolfram for ya.
[06:51] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, do i have to change sources first?
[06:51] <node357> Only really busy forum I know for general GNU/Linux questions is linuxquestions.org :/
[06:51] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: no
[06:51] <raik> it is connected to small device just like spliiter where the ethernet cable from the rooftop device is also connected. and the device is powered by an adapter lstarnes
[06:51] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: you might need the multiverse repo
[06:52] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, sorry i still don't understand. What is a repo?
[06:52] <node357> I'm no help. But I'm good at asking for help. Anyone know how to enable line-in on the SB X-Fi card?
[06:52] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: repository
[06:52] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: software source
[06:52] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen,leaving me to forcequit,anyone one know how to fix it?
[06:52] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, is it under ubuntu software centre?
[06:52] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: I don't know.  maybe
[06:52] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen,leaving me to forcequit,anyone one know how to fix it?
[06:53] <Concretesledge> how can i rip a dvd
[06:53] <Concretesledge> down to a cd
[06:53] <huangguoji> helo
[06:53] <Madpilot> is Launchpad timing out for anyone else, or does it just hate me tonight?
[06:53] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: I usually do it the old way (system > administration > software sources or /etc/apt/sources.list)
[06:53] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen,leaving me to forcequit,anyone one know how to fix it?
[06:53] <jeffhmb> rafiq, turn off the bright light behind your head?
[06:53] <node357> Madpilot, I find it slow, but it does respond here.
[06:53] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, ok thanks, that was helpful
[06:53] <jeffhmb> rafiq, just kidding, what do you mean?
[06:53] <Yaya_> Whats up guys
[06:53] <Random832> in karmic my setting for touchpad clicks being disabled isn't preserved from jaunty
[06:53] <Random832> >_<
[06:53] <fire_> thanks for that. :)
[06:53] <Madpilot> node357, lucky you, trying to file a bug and it's timed out six or eight times on me
[06:54] <Infinitas> Switching from kde to gnome today, woot. :)
[06:54] <lstarnes> raik: were you using another version of ubuntu before?
[06:54] <node357> Ugh Madpilot, that sucks.
[06:54] <DaveyAM> 3d cube effect for my desktop? where i need to go? what url ? :)
[06:54] <Yaya_> Can anyone help me out
[06:54] <Random832> (i only had to go in and change again, but what else am i going to have to configure again? that's a user setting, how'd my profile get changed?)
[06:54] <Psinetic> I need some help. I'm on Ubuntu 9.04, i need to make a fresh install, but i can't burn the live cd b/c i only have one cd drive. Now I've got my windows laptop networked to my desktop directly (it doesn't have internet capability), i can rdesktop to it. i need to  transfer this .iso image for the 9.10 ubuntu over to the desktop of my windows computer. can anyone help me with this please?
[06:54] <Madpilot> node357, can't even get thru to LP to file a bug against LP :)
[06:54] <lstarnes> DaveyAM: it comes with the plugin package for compiz
[06:54] <judibeefl> what is in the restricted extras?
[06:54] <jbuncher> DaveyAM, install the compizconfig-settings-manager, play around in there.
[06:54] <Yaya_> Can anyone help me out :(?
[06:54] <raik> yes i was using 9.04 and net was running fine with the same settings and steps. lstarnes
[06:54] <lstarnes> DaveyAM: if you have visual effects enabled, you can use it
[06:54] <node357> haha Madpilot
[06:54] <jbuncher> !ask | Yaya_
[06:54] <DaveyAM> compiz? i have full visual effects enabled
[06:55] <Yaya_> Ok
[06:55] <lstarnes> raik: it could be a driver issue
[06:55] <rafiq> oh  imean,bowser complains its because of newly opened site,jus some shadow kind of thing cover window and nothin can be done except forcequit
[06:55] <DaveyAM> but i havent that effect :S
[06:55] <jeffhmb> Psinetic, why can't you burn the CD from your ubuntu box?
[06:55] <lstarnes> raik: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307107
[06:55] <Yaya_> Im trying to install 9.10 from the ISO file, any idea how i can run the installer? I already have the iso mounted
[06:55] <jbuncher> DaveyAM, that's why I said to install the settings-manager, so that you can go in and really tweak things, such as turning on the cube
[06:55] <lstarnes> Yaya_: is it the alternate iso?
[06:55] <raik> ok lstarnes
[06:55] <fire_> does anyoe know if 9.10 has a wallpaper slideshow feature?
[06:56] <Psinetic> jeffhmb: because i have to use the live cd from my box....
[06:56] <Yaya_> No, I'm running 8.04 and the update servers are running very slow
[06:56] <sohrab> hi all
[06:56] <rafiq> jeffhmb: are u getting me?
[06:56] <sohrab> i have a problem
[06:56] <node357> Could someone please answer me? How do I enable line-in on a SB X-Fi sound card?
[06:56] <sohrab> ?
[06:56] <Yaya_> Its the standard i386
[06:56] <raik> lstarnes that thread is created by me
[06:56] <DaveyAM> where i can get the compizconfig-settings-manager?
[06:56] <lstarnes> Yaya_: you should probably burn it onto a disc and boot from it
[06:56] <sohrab> hos know how could i work with smbfs ?
[06:56] <jeffhmb> rafiq, sorry no. I didn't see any other messages from you until this one.
[06:56] <zhaozhou> Yaya_: How are you trying to install this? Which installer do you want to start?
[06:56] <PatrickStarfish> fire_ : I don't see one, except it does include a space pictures slideshow, don't know if you can change the pics
[06:57] <lstarnes> DaveyAM: look in the package manager
[06:57] <jeffhmb> Psinetic, did you dowloand the 9.10 iso to your 9.04 box?
[06:57] <bazhang> DaveyAM, from synaptic package manager
[06:57] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:57] <jbuncher> DaveyAM, should just be in the repositories, though it might be in universe.
[06:57] <Yaya_> I'm trying to start the installer from the ISO image
[06:57] <lstarnes> DaveyAM: it may already be somewhere in the appearence settings
[06:57] <poyntz> lstarnes: is there no way for me to get access? i'm on DL atm
[06:57] <lstarnes> Yaya_: that isn't supported afaik
[06:57] <lstarnes> poyntz: DL?
[06:57] <zhaozhou> Yaya_: The "install ubuntu"-one?
[06:57] <poyntz> lstarnes: DreamLinux
[06:57] <poyntz> lstarnes: I'm dual booting
[06:58] <poyntz> lstarnes: both my xservers are screwed
[06:58] <Psinetic> jeffhmb: if you had noticed before, i can't boot to my box and am currently in live cd of 9.04. i can't burn it on here because i'm using the only cd drive i have. so i need to use my laptop, which is networked directly to my box.
[06:58] <node357> Yaya_, the only thing that will work if you just mount the image is Wubi.
[06:58] <sohrab> i need to active smbfs
[06:58] <judibeefl> can anyone tell me what is the restricted package?
[06:58] <Yaya_> yea, buts a .exe
[06:58] <poyntz> lstarnes: the only difference is that I can actually do things on the DL console... karmic is really tossed up (so I can't run apps)
[06:58] <lstarnes> !ubuntu-restricted-extras | judibeefl
[06:58] <zhaozhou> Yaya_: Short answer; you can't.
[06:58] <DaveyAM> i find compizconfig-settings-manager in synaptic but crap >.< i have the same error...
[06:58] <poyntz> lstarnes: not to mention I cant use sudo
[06:59] <Yaya_> I;m trying to pull off a fresh install from the ISO image
[06:59] <jeffhmb> Psinetic, oh yes, the grub, grub2, etc. discussion. Yes, I didn't follow all of that.
[06:59] <kankro> Hello
[06:59] <jbuncher> DaveyAM, what error?
[06:59] <Psinetic> jeffhmb: it's ok
[06:59] <zhaozhou> Yaya_: Then you'd have to actually boot the ISO.
[06:59] <lstarnes> poyntz: for ubuntu, edit its command line when booting so that it has the root=blah part followed by ro single
[06:59] <DaveyAM> i cant download anything because synaptic try to connect with proxy
[06:59] <DaveyAM> i did use a proxy today but not now..
[06:59] <jeffhmb> Psinetic, so you just want to get the 9.10 iso from the 9.04 box to the windows lappy. right?
[06:59] <San234> hey guyz! plzzz help! me! i want to install a software named ipmsg for LAN i download tar.gz file its a zip like file now wat to do to instal? in ubuntu
[06:59] <poyntz> lstarnes: without sudo I can't apt-get update && agupgrade my way out out of anything :/
[06:59] <Yaya_> So it can't be done unless i burn the image?
[06:59] <San234> hey guyz! plzzz help! me! i want to install a software named ipmsg for LAN i download tar.gz file its a zip like file now wat to do to instal? in ubuntu
[06:59] <node357> judibeefl, as far as I can tell, restricted-extras are software that are proprietary or could have patent issues.
[06:59] <DaveyAM> and synaptic send me error...
[06:59] <sohrab> i need to install smbfs autofs
[06:59] <K4nkr0> ..
[06:59] <jbuncher> DaveyAM, Ah, yeah.  no idea.
[07:00] <sohrab> whos working
[07:00] <poyntz> lstarnes: i'll give it a shot
[07:00] <lstarnes> poyntz: if you can do what I just described, it should get you into ubuntu's recovery console
[07:00] <poyntz> lstarnes: menu.lst yeah?
[07:00] <node357> Attempting to repress mounting frusration.
[07:00] <[V]ortex`> does 9.10 support ubuntu-restricted-extras? i can't find it  in my synp repo (multiverse)
[07:00] <judibeefl> node  TY
[07:00] <DaveyAM> iam using pidgin and firefox without problem because i disable the proxy
[07:00] <lstarnes> poyntz: yes
[07:00] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: yes
[07:00] <node357> np judibeefl
[07:00] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, i still can't find it =(
[07:00] <Yaya_> Ok...then a second thought...is there a thrid party update server i can use?
[07:00] <lstarnes> poyntz: from there, you can add yourself back to the group with sudo gpasswd -a USER admin
[07:00] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, can you kindly point the way?
[07:00] <jeffhmb> San234, go to a terminal window or console, and type "tar -xzvf file.tar.gz"
[07:00] <DaveyAM> iam using direct dhcp but synaptic try to connect to proxy :(
[07:00] <Infinitas> Excuse me, can anyone tell me the best packages for audio/video codecs on ubuntu and which package manager to get them from?
[07:00] <Sagaci> where's the equivalent of /boot/grub/menu.lst in ubuntu 9.10
[07:00] <shahdharmit> I ran the livecd of Karmic. I use Fedora 11 and ran "sudo os-prober" but it didn't detect Fedora. I need to run Fedora too. What shall I do?
[07:01] <DaveyAM> what i need to do guys?
[07:01] <node357> I'm trying to enable line-in on SB X-Fi sound card, but it doesn't work in GNOME mixer or alasmixer.
[07:01] <Psinetic> jeffhmb: yes, i think i can get it manually thought just by putting it on a thumb drive, so give me a sec
[07:01] <judibeefl> Vortex i have it in my Synapse Package Manager
[07:01] <DaveyAM> how i can tell to synaptic "hey iam not using proxy now..!"
[07:01] <[V]ortex`> judibeefl, how do i do that?
[07:01] <aah> 'lo all.  I've got Xvnc running on a machine w/ multiple monitors; the monitors give me a desktop of.. umm.. 3248x1200.  No matter what options I give vncserver at start up (e.g., -geometry 1024x768), the size is ignored and I get my :0 size.  Any thoughts?
[07:01] <jbuncher> Psinetic, if you can boot from a livecd and then chroot into the box that doesn't like to boot, maybe you could just install grub over grub2?
[07:01] <jeffhmb> Psinetic, not a bad idea. For moving a file over the network, it's pretty easy to enable file sharing on the windows box, and then connect to that share from the linux box.
[07:01] <erkerk3> for some reason it gnome explodes when i enable root and log in as it
[07:02] <erkerk3> how do i fix this
[07:02] <node357> Does anyone even care that I can't get this working?
[07:02] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: try opening a terminal and running sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:02] <Ford> San234, extract the tar file using tar -xzvf file.tar.gz and navigate to it at the terminal.  look for a read me file which might have instructions on how to install
[07:02] <Yaya_> Is there a way to update from a 3rd party server?
[07:02] <lstarnes> erkerk3: you should never do a graphical login as root
[07:02] <Animagladius> Night
[07:02] <lockd> this is rather annoying... I have a program which needs a threaded LibXML, and ubuntu doesn't supply that
[07:02] <jbuncher> erkerk3, in all seriousness, don't log in as root.
[07:02] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: unfortunately at this point, its VERY unlikely grub is his only problem, he's gonna have to reinstall most likely anyways
[07:02] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:02] <[V]ortex`> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:02] <judibeefl> Vortex System-->Administration--->Synaptic Package Manager
[07:02] <maxjizzy> aah, are you using nivida?
[07:03] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: close all other package management applications
[07:03] <[V]ortex`> judibeefl, i searched but nothing comes up
[07:03] <aah> maxjizzy: ruh roh, yes.
[07:03] <trgbeck> ok I seen a flaw in Karmic it is in the mouse orientation to switch right to left handed doesnt work
[07:03] <erkerk3> :/
[07:03] <Yaya_> Anyone know if there is a way to update from a 3rd party server since the main update servers are so slow?
[07:03] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, OK.
[07:03] <poyntz> lstarnes: ok. now i'm getting a weird message when I try to mount ubuntu. it tells me sda1 is not a block device :/
[07:03] <bazhang> trgbeck, please file a bug
[07:03] <judibeefl> nothing under Administration menu?
[07:03] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, Package ubuntu-restricted-extras is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:03] <[V]ortex`> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:03] <[V]ortex`> is only available from another source
[07:03] <[V]ortex`> E: Package ubuntu-restricted-extras has no installation candidate
[07:03] <bazhang> !bugs | trgbeck
[07:03] <node357> Does ANYONE know how to enable line-in on SB X-Fi???????
[07:03] <FloodBot2> [V]ortex`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:03] <lstarnes> poyntz: it does exist, right?
[07:03] <jbuncher> Yaya_, there should be a little app in the "software sources" program to find a close mirror.
[07:03] <[V]ortex`> judibeefl, nope nothing
[07:03] <maxjizzy> you must save the settings manually i think
[07:03] <[V]ortex`> oops sorry for flooding
[07:03] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: did you enable the multiverse and restricted repos?
[07:03] <poyntz> lstarnes: well that's what i've been mounting it from in the past
[07:04] <maxjizzy> aah, i'll try to find the link for that
[07:04] <poyntz> lstarnes: unless the system oddly changed the name on the last boot
[07:04] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, multiverse yes, is restricted repos the same?
[07:04] <Yaya_> ok coo, i'll give that a try
[07:04] <lstarnes> poyntz: that could happen
[07:04] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: no
[07:04] <judibeefl> Are you on 9.04 or 9.10 Vortex?
[07:04] <aah> maxjizzy: thank you.  googling too, nothing obvious (what am I looking for?)
[07:04] <node357> Why is everybody ignoring me?
[07:04] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: they're different repos, but more or less do the same thing
[07:04] <arussel> how can I list broken package on my machine ?
[07:04] <poyntz> lstarnes: I also tried sudo fdisk -l which doesn't seem to work on DL.. :/
[07:04] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, i'll go look
[07:04] <lstarnes> node357: we might nopt have an ansert for your question
[07:05] <lstarnes> node357: er, we might not have an answer
[07:05] <node357> Thanks. That's better than not getting a response at all.. kinda lol
[07:05] <obiwan_> hey guys, do you think tux disguiste is too freaky/geek for halloween? hehe
[07:05] <lstarnes> node357: but I can assure you that people here have at lease seen it
[07:05] <judibeefl> lol  lstarnes
[07:05] <lstarnes> *least
[07:05] <maxjizzy> aah, now i remember
[07:05] <poyntz> lstarnes: just checked. the only sda<numbers> are sda1 and sda3
[07:05] <node357> wb wooly.. any luck?
[07:05] <enzyme> node357: You may have to switch to OSSv4 to access SB X-Fi line in.
[07:05] <judibeefl> WB Wooly
[07:05] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, Fire, It is not working in my system. Maybe I am doing something wrong. I am completely new to ubuntu and have no experience with this. I get several error messages after startx: Error api mismatch error: failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module. Please ensure that there is a supported nvidia gpu in this system and that the nvidia device files have been created properly
[07:06] <fire_> can I get flurry back in 9.10? :(
[07:06] <jeffhmb> You know what rocks? Network block device. I used to mount debian CDs from an old 200 MHz Pentium laptop that didn't have a CDROM drive, by mounting the CD on my server and then exporting that as a NBD.
[07:06] <wooly> lol i've not even got started yet
[07:06] <node357> ugh
[07:06] <wooly> yea
[07:06] <maxjizzy> aah, sudo nvidia-settings
[07:06] <maxjizzy> you have to do it with the sudo
[07:06] <wooly> ic ant really find any kind of useful documentation that would help me begin to know how to mount/decrypt
[07:06] <maxjizzy> to get it save
[07:06] <node357> enzyme, thanks. I might try that, or the driver from creative labs. I just hope it doesn't conflict with the alsa driver... was hoping Ubuntu would "just work" for once, but I guess not.
[07:06] <aah> maxjizzy: from within the vnc session?
[07:06] <p-f> anyone else getting a bunch of python errors when trying to do pretty much anything in gpodder on karmic?
[07:07] <node357> Windows and Linux making me hate computers.
[07:07] <p-f> the program is practically unusable
[07:07] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, did you try 'dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-185-kernel-source'
[07:07] <lstarnes> wooly: you still have your username/passphrase, right?
[07:07] <p-f> I'm surprised a gui shows up at all
[07:07] <jbuncher> node357, x-fi's have had a lot of problems with linux, iirc
[07:07] <erkerk3> didn't they open source its driverfs?
[07:07] <enzyme> node357: Don't blame the OS; blame Creative.
[07:07] <wooly> lstarnes i know the password I used and I kept the /var/lib/ecryptfs if that's what you mean
[07:07] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, no. did not try that
[07:07] <node357> jbuncher, i know.. but the alsa driver included in recent kernels worked fine for me on other distros...
[07:08] <node357> enzyme, i only have a problem with this card on Ubuntu Karmic.
[07:08] <Ford> node357, I always tell people that they should not hate or blame computers if the are unable to do something rather they should seek to know how to do it
[07:08] <node357> Ford, I'm too old to learn C/C++ and Python :(
[07:09] <jbuncher> node357, wonder if it's a pulse bug then, or if other distros weren't using the 31 kernel and something happened from pre31 to 31
[07:09] <judibeefl> node i am 49 and want to learn those
[07:09] <raik> http://www.worldlink.com.np/wireless/wizooome_surfwell_premium/index.php  this is the my connection lstarnes
[07:09] <lstarnes> wooly: I think you can specify the path to the key file in the mount options
[07:09] <node357> maybe jbuncher... and I'd like to help, but I'm not well and having a usable system is most important to me right now.
[07:09] <maxjizzy> aah i'm not really sure, it was long time i did work that shit out.
[07:10] <Ford> node357, great scientists like Albert Einstein discovered most stuff at old age! :)
[07:10] <node357> well judibeefl maybe too old is kind of narrow minded of me to say
[07:10] <KushedVapors> sooo wat does the deluge daemon do?
[07:10] <aah> maxjizzy: heh.  no prob.  thanks for the pointer, I'll play around.
[07:10] <node357> lol yeah Ford
[07:10] <maxjizzy> i'm totally stoned
[07:10] <[V]ortex`> do i have to restart after package installation?
[07:10] <wooly> lstarnes so should I just put /var/lib/ecryptfs back where it was then specify there when mounting?
[07:10] <metaphlex> will HTML5 replace flash games?
[07:10] <node357> I'm just not sure I want to spend a few years learning how to code hardware drivers before I can use my computer.
[07:10] <p-f> Ford, uhm, didn't Einstein fizzled out after his 30s?
[07:10] <jbuncher> node357, use what works then, nothing wrong with that
[07:10] <p-f> -d
[07:10] <lstarnes> wooly: try mount -t ecryptfs /dev/HD /mnt -o keyfile=PATH/TO/KEY
[07:10] <Boohbah> KushedVapors: seeds/downloads torrents in the background
[07:11] <Ford> p-f, that is old, according to me :)
[07:11] <jussi01> !language | maxjizzy
[07:11] <^Einstein> lies, I'm perfectly healthy! now, back on-topic. :)
[07:11] <judibeefl> node you can do anything your heart and mind will you to do
[07:11] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, I tried dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-185-kernel-source, and it answered with "need an action option"
[07:11] <node357> :)
[07:11] <Boohbah> jussi01: what about maxjizzy's language was not family friendly?
[07:11] <maxjizzy> srry
[07:11] <Ford> [V]ortex`, not a must, buy you can if it does not take effect
[07:11] <maxjizzy> i'm 420 friendly but the world is not.
[07:11] <digdug> I've been using the 9.10 beta the last couple weeks, and updated about 3 days ago; when I checked for updates today, there was no partial upgrade to install, just roughly 6 or 7 packages to update, am I running the release or am I still running the beta?
[07:11] <poyntz> lstarnes: i'll try to reboot. thanks in the meantime!
[07:11] <Sagaci> how do you edit grub in ubuntu 9.10??
[07:11] <node357> hah, Einstein.
[07:11] <voraistos> 9.10 finally fixes the intel driver, it looks absolutely fantastic! Todo next: gain back win3.1 functionality such as settings for the screensavers.
[07:11] <KushedVapors> Boohbah, so it consumes less cpu than puttin it in the taskbar?
[07:12] <lstarnes> wooly: replace the all-caps parts with the right values (HD = hard disk device, PATH/TO/KEY = full location of key file)
[07:12] <K4nkr0> .
[07:12] <jbuncher> digdug, you're running the final
[07:12] <node357> maxjizzy, not everyone smokes green :P
[07:12] <bazhang> digdug, the final
[07:12] <maxjizzy> i'm totally slow in my head
[07:12] <wooly> lstarnes gonna try brb
[07:12] <DaveyAM> guys i need help with synaptic... :(
[07:12] <[V]ortex`> what other packages should i install - other than restricted extras?
[07:12] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, did you run it under sudo?
[07:12] <maxjizzy> must have been something i eat
[07:12] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: it depends on what you need
[07:12] <drygr> i have a question that isnt specifically about ubuntu, but it relates to the file system...
[07:12] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, depends on what you want to do
[07:12] <enzyme> DaveyAM: Try sudo apt-get update to see if you get a problem still.
[07:12] <DaveyAM> how i can reconfigure the synaptic connection settings in console?
[07:13] <judibeefl> i had 13  Friday and 41 after the init install Thursday
[07:13] <broken_puppy> Anyone know of a good source for recovering files deleted from ext3?
[07:13] <Sagaci> !grub
[07:13] <maxjizzy> please, anyone with a mobile connection?
[07:13] <lstarnes> drygr: go ahead and ask
[07:13] <Sagaci> !grub2
[07:13] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, jbuncher, for normal purposes? like surfing net, simple office apps etc?
[07:13] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, I will try again. I think I misstyped. Is it dpkg-reconfigure or dpkg reconfigure?
[07:13] <drygr> i have a USB drive that is on an ms-dos filesystem, how do i format it to a unix filesystem?
[07:13] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: firefox and openoffice are installed by default, I think
[07:13] <Ford> broken_puppy, look for a tool known as ext3grep.  It works if you are patient enough
[07:14] <bazhang> drygr, gparted
[07:14] <DaveyAM> error
[07:14] <Madpilot> drygr, you probably don't want or need to. fat32 is understood everywhere
[07:14] <lstarnes> drygr: it depends on which unix fs you want. ext2/ext3 is very widely supported
[07:14] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-185-kernel-source"
[07:14] <broken_puppy> Ford, Thanks!
[07:14] <DaveyAM> its try to connect to proxy
[07:14] <voraistos> oh and the sta broadcom drivers finally actually work too. thanks for your work guys.
[07:14] <Deathvalley122> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8193361<----this is the problem I am running into can anyone help me?
[07:14] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, ok thanks
[07:14] <axionix> can someone helpme with mpd?
[07:14] <DaveyAM> but iam not using proxy now! :(
[07:14] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, ok
[07:14] <lstarnes> drygr: you can use mkfs.ext2 or mkfs.ext3
[07:14] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, waht about a firewall ap?
[07:14] <drygr> whats the difference
[07:14] <Boohbah> KushedVapors: no, it enables you to connect to it with different interfaces, e.g. GUI or text-mode
[07:14] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: iptables and ufw are installed by default
[07:14] <node357> DaveyAM, I'm gonna boot into my Wubi-fied Ubuntu and take a look at Synaptic, maybe I can help you figure it out.
[07:14] <Boohbah> KushedVapors: kind of like mpd
[07:14] <lstarnes> drygr: ext3 has journaling
[07:15] <slurp> hi
[07:15] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, iptables and ufw are firewall progs?
[07:15] <DaveyAM> i try sudo apt-get update but its try to connect with proxy enabled...  :(
[07:15] <Appiah> my network (wlan and wired) does not work in Karmic, upgrade, fresh install and live CD is the same , its beacuse of the kernel, I tried a older kernel but here my sound dont work.
[07:15] <DaveyAM> ok
[07:15] <Appiah> What should I do?
[07:15] <DaveyAM> tks
[07:15] <slurp> can you help me with a wireless pci card?
[07:15] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: yes.  I wouldn't have mentioned them if they weren't
[07:15] <jre2> anyone know how to fix home, end, and delete in gnome-terminal?
[07:15] <eagles0513875> !patience | Deathvalley122
[07:15] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: they have graphical frontends such as firestarter and gufw
[07:15] <KushedVapors> Boohbah, never really used MPD, dont like to load and nload files constantly but thnx 4 the info
[07:16] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, ok which would you reccommend? firestarter or gufw?
[07:16] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: I don't use either
[07:16] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, well, you've got firefox for browsing, openoffice for word processing / spreadsheets / presentations, gimp for raster editing.  I usually install thunderbird as my mail client, pidgin for instant messaging (I like it better than Empathy), inkscape for vector graphics, latex and kile for technical documents, gThumb as a quick image editor, and some other things as well.
[07:16] <Boohbah> KushedVapors: http://www.chnorton.com.au/2007/09/30/deluge-web-interface/
[07:16] <maxjizzy> vortex, firestarter is nice
[07:16] <Balsaq> if i am happily hooked up with 9.04, is it nuts to take 910? do irisk losing my ability to watch online vids...or risk losing sound?
[07:16] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, ok you don't have firewall?
[07:16] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: I do
[07:16] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher, ok thanks a lot! can you reccommenda  firewall?
[07:17] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, sorry, not that well versed in the firewall stuff.
[07:17] <Deathvalley122> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8193361<----this is the problem I am running into can anyone help me?
[07:17] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: almost everyone with a linux installation made in the past few years has iptables
[07:17] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: ubuntu comes with ufw too
[07:17] <DaveyAM> node357 some idea?
[07:17] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, it says that /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: nvidia-185-kernel-source is not installed
[07:17] <voraistos> don't most people have hardware firewalls nowadays ?
[07:17] <judibeefl> Death post an abbreviated message you posted here
[07:18] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: I usually manually configure things using iptables.  I'm behind a firewalled router so I don't need to do as much configuration of the software
[07:18] <eagles0513875> anyone able to help my friend Deathvalley122 with his issue as i have tried and have no idea how to fix it
[07:18] <zhaozhou> eagles0513875: what seems to be the problem, sir?
[07:18] <judibeefl> Eagle state the issue again please?
[07:18] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, i see.. so since i'm behind a router, i can just leave it right?
[07:18] <Ford> eagles0513875, tell him to post it hear
[07:18] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: probably
[07:19] <eagles0513875> Ford: zhaozhou: this is the problem he has http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8193361
[07:19] <node357> Waited a year for Ubuntu to support my sound card, now I have to wait another 6 months.
[07:19] <littlesteve> hi
[07:19] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, ok thanks, you've been very helpful
[07:19] <judibeefl> Eagle copy/paste from there  paste in here
[07:19] <eagles0513875> judibeefl: its long will spam the channel
[07:19] <Ford> node357, patience pays, and if you are brave enough contribute, they normally appreciate one's input
[07:19] <judibeefl> lol sorry to hear that node
[07:20] <eagles0513875> would rather link his forum post cuz in a way its like using pastebin
[07:20] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, you have two choices, I think.
[07:20] <zhaozhou> eagles0513875: so this spam happends when?
[07:20] <node357> DaveyAM, I checked Synaptic. Go to settings -> Preferences, then Network, then select Direct Connection
[07:20] <Deathvalley122> yea
[07:20] <eagles0513875> !paste | zhaozhou:
[07:20] <eagles0513875> zhaozhou: when you paste more then 3 lines
[07:20] <zhaozhou> eagles0513875: eh?
[07:20] <[V]ortex`> does peercast/shoutcast run in linux? anyone know?
[07:20] <lonejack> hi, does someone know if on remix repository has been inserted eclipse pdt? I'm using 9.04 and was thinking to upgrade. Thank you
[07:21] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, 1) what does "dpkg -l |grep nvidia |grep kernel-source" say?
[07:21] <enzyme> node357: You can have support for the X-Fi card (I have the same card and using it now for recording) with OSSv4.1
[07:21] <DaveyAM> i did that..
[07:21] <eagles0513875> zhaozhou: or Ford are either of you guys able to help him :(
[07:21] <DaveyAM> and nothings happend
[07:21] <zhaozhou> eagles0513875: when does this happen?
[07:21] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, answer that and then I'll get back to telling you the two choices....
[07:21] <voraistos> DeathValley122: I think this is a kernel issue, I'm not too sure why, probably just a minor bug. What is really strange is that you can mount it and unmount it manually. NOTE: Back in the old days, we had mount and unmount a CD before to be able to eject it. Otherwise you'll have to use root in CLI to eject it.
[07:21] <DaveyAM> its try to connect to proxy
[07:22] <roffe_> in windows I had a scroll-function with the middle button on my mouse. How do I get it in  Ubuntu?
[07:22] <eagles0513875> zhaozhou: ask him he is in here his name is Deathvalley122
[07:22] <zhaozhou> so, Deathvalley122, when does this happen?
[07:22] <madman1> roffe_: you mean the scroll wheel, or an actual button
[07:22] <Deathvalley122> yes voraistos but I did a fresh install and I am still getting the problem
[07:22] <judibeefl> Eagle it sounds like a driver issue, check with SONY and Ubuntu for driver updates
[07:22] <DaveyAM> i dont know why because iam using direct dhcp for all my settings.. :(
[07:22] <eagles0513875> judibeefl: ping Deathvalley122 with the info as he is in here
[07:23] <DaveyAM> and now i cant download anything..
[07:23] <slurp> help please