[14:14] <wrst> hello everybody
[14:14]  * wrst nudges xTEMPLARx
[17:36] <chris4585> hey wrst
[17:37] <chris4585> I figured out my issue somewhat, I think I possibly did something to my mobo the other day when I was tidying up my case
[17:37] <chris4585> for some reason my onboard audio doesn't work unless I unplug the front audio connector :/
[17:37] <chris4585> and since then I've been having issues with my usb connectors, but nothing that requires a new board yet
[17:38] <wrst> ouch chris4585 :(
[17:40] <chris4585> yeah :/ kind of annoying I have to unplug my external drives before I boot up or linux takes ages to boot
[17:40] <chris4585> windows doesn't seem to be having that issue though, its obvious my bios was acting up with those plugged in
[17:43] <wrst> hmm
[17:44] <wrst> oh chris4585 http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182
[18:32] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: are you here to stay????
[19:52] <vychune> o/
[19:53] <wrst> hello vychune
[19:53] <vychune> how yal?
[19:53] <wrst> i'm good vychune
[19:54] <vychune> im ok
[19:54] <vychune> in the boring class
[19:54] <vychune> Security plus
[19:55] <wrst> what class is that?
[20:00] <vychune> Intro to Networking Security
[20:02] <wrst> sounds like a blast :)
[20:41] <vychune> not with this teacher
[23:21] <chris4585> sorry wrst, today has been very busy
[23:21] <chris4585> I looked at that link earlier but didn't have much time to really read it before I left
[23:22] <wrst> chris4585: its a monday seems to be that way for us all
[23:22] <chris4585> btw I got a temp job at dollar general :D
[23:22] <wrst> just shuttleworth's response to the amazon stuff, seems kind of weak to me
[23:22] <wrst> cool chris4585
[23:22] <wrst> jobs are not easy to be found at the moment
[23:23] <chris4585> easy for you to say, florida's unemployment is higher than average :/ and this area *really* sucks for getting jobs
[23:23] <chris4585> I've been trying for the past year and half now
[23:24] <chris4585> wrst, woops read your last comment wrong
[23:24] <chris4585> it *is* a monday LOL
[23:24] <wrst> ha ha
[23:24] <wrst> monday still i'm afraid :)
[23:25] <wrst> i know in our area its not easy at all and our numbers aren't terrible but so many people have just given up its sad
[23:26] <chris4585> its ridiculous if you don't have prier work history :(
[23:26] <wrst> and how can you get it if you gotta have it before you can get a job?
[23:27] <chris4585> exactly, I don't understand it
[23:27] <chris4585> but I think I was really lucky, my brother works for DG, my friend got hired yesterday, and I got hired today
[23:27] <wrst> awesome
[23:28] <wrst> and on that shuttleworth article i would have much rathered them said hey we need some money to keep this thing going
[23:28] <chris4585> its a temp job but hopefully I can stay part time after, regardless I'll have experience now
[23:28] <wrst> good chris4585
[23:28] <chris4585> wrst, I haven't really read it yet, something about search anything and unity will try to find it for  you but with ads?
[23:29] <wrst> well yes through amazon it makes shopping suggestions its ok done, but a little silly
[23:29] <wrst> and its a fancy affiliate link
[23:29] <wrst> is what it is
[23:29] <wrst> which is fine but don't go off on a tangent just say hey we want to make some money
[23:29] <chris4585> ah
[23:30] <chris4585> gotcha
[23:30] <wrst> but instead he writes this big long blog
[23:30] <chris4585> I don't really mind, I don't really use unity.. so good for them I guess, I'll probably put ubuntu on my tv comp when it 12.10 comes out
[23:30] <wrst> i am enjoying arch more everyday reading that stuff
[23:31] <wrst> i really don't like unity but have no issue with them doing that but be straight up and say he we all need funds people would understand or atleast ubuntu users would and those that are the stallman purist type folks, well nothing makes them happy
[23:32] <chris4585> you know I wouldn't mind if they asked during install for a small donation...
[23:32] <wrst> chris4585: i wouldn't either, now when i reinstall 500 times would i do it everytime no but on occasion i would
[23:32] <chris4585> do they even have a donation thing setup?
[23:33] <wrst> i don't mind the amazon stuff but would be nice to be able to opt out, etc etc
[23:33] <wrst> and looks like that would be more of a software center type thing or even a shopping lens would be fine
[23:33] <chris4585> well, no of course not every install, just make it like a humble indie bundle type of thing
[23:33] <wrst> yep
[23:33] <wrst> i agree chris4585
[23:35] <chris4585> ubuntu is weird sometimes
[23:35] <chris4585> I have to say I do miss being a noob sometimes.. lol


[17:07] <gogli> Senethri1: is this work fine ?
[17:07] <trism> mcamaret: hold on, I would remove backports first, update and then do that
[17:07] <boii> jAguAr`, sure, just set IP same class.
[17:07] <Senethri1> probably, i don't know i commandl ine is used
[17:08] <trism> mcamaret: then you can add backports back later, just so apt doesn't get confused
[17:08] <mcamaret> trism: ok
[17:08] <jAguAr`> boii, ok, how? where would i find that?
[17:08] <gogli> Senethri1: i want to convert video to .ogg format
[17:09] <bekks> gogli: No. You want to cut off the audio off a video, and convert the audio to .ogg
[17:09] <Zwick|2> Are any of the nvidia drivers in the software center safe for 12.04?
[17:09] <Senethri1> u can't find better solution than encoder/decoder and they are the best under linux
[17:09] <bekks> Zwick|2: Sure. nvidia-* is fine.
[17:09] <Senethri1> gogli tovis provide a gui for u
[17:09] <Senethri1> *tovid
[17:09] <Senethri1> :)
[17:09] <gogli> Senethri1: are they cli or gui tool
[17:10] <Senethri1> gogli its ok for u now
[17:10] <gogli> Senethri1: don't worry , i can even use cli
[17:10] <L3top> Zwick|2: What is the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[17:10] <Senethri1> gogli: perfect
[17:10] <boii> jAguAr`, first you must connect your laptop and desktop through wireless.
[17:11] <Zwick|2> Let me check, l3
[17:11] <gogli> Senethri1: so, whats the utility
[17:11] <jAguAr`> boii, ok, how do i do that?
[17:11] <Senethri1> gogli: tovid :)
[17:11] <Senethri1> gogli http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Installing_tovid/Ubuntu
[17:11] <gogli> Senethri1: is encoder/decoder is that utilty  ?
[17:11] <dfdfdf> in my HP normally there is a recovry bottom
[17:12] <dfdfdf> F11
[17:12] <dfdfdf> but i 've try to install a ubuntu 2years ago
[17:12] <mcamaret> trism
[17:12] <dfdfdf> and F11 don't work
[17:12] <mcamaret> trism: it works!
[17:12] <L3top> !enter | dfdfdf
[17:13] <tyler_> Would someone help me with installing FGLRX drivers? I already have the installer but apparently I have an older version of the driver installed.
[17:13] <genii-around> Those recovery buttons generally only work if you don't overwrite/delete the partition the recovery files reside on
[17:13] <L3top> tyler_: I would need to see the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[17:13] <tyler_> Alright. Give me a second.
[17:14] <tyler_> "VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series] [1002:9712]"
[17:14] <dfdfdf> the image of the system is in anthor disk the D but how to use it , idon't know.
[17:15] <L3top> tyler_: fglrx will work with that card. What have you done so far?
[17:15] <trism> mcamaret: excellent!
[17:15] <freshone0> pls help i cannot open my update manager or synaptic package manager
[17:15] <Zwick|2> L3top: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF116 [GeForce GTX 550 Ti] [10de:1244] (rev a1)
[17:15] <boii> jAguAr`, get router.
[17:15] <splnet> Where is the default .config for ubuntu kernels? ls /proc/config.gz : No such file or directory
[17:15] <L3top> Zwick|2: nvidia-current should work fine for you.
[17:16] <L3top> Zwick|2: or nvidia-current-updates
[17:16] <Zwick|2> Every time I install the current drivers, I get an error.
[17:16] <L3top> what is the error Zwick|2
[17:16] <genii-around> dfdfdf: The computer expects the data to be at a certain place, which it is not anymore. Without knowing where it was originally supposed to be, difficult to sort out.
[17:16] <freshone0> i cannot open the update manager or the synaptic package manager
[17:16] <freshone0> how do i resolve that
[17:16] <dfdfdf> the image of the system is in anthor disk the D but how to use it , idon't know.my HP
[17:17] <trism> splnet: /boot/config-$(uname -r) for the running kernel
[17:17] <fahry> indonesia
[17:17] <_nedR> hello.. question about ssh identities... is it safe practice to use the same ssh key-pair across multiple remote comps .. (i.e. supply same public key to both github and bitbucket)?
[17:17] <L3top> dfdfdf: as genii-around... the "d" drive may well have been a partition that is gone. In ubuntu please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk  -l
[17:17] <L3top> said*
[17:17] <freshone0> pls help
[17:17] <freshone0> it says there is an unresolvable problem
[17:17] <genii-around> dfdfdf: If the data is still there but moved, might be possible to move it to a usb stick instead and then try booting from that
[17:17] <tyler_> I've gotten the .run program from the ATI website and I've ran it in the terminal. From there, I have the option of building a distro-specific package or it automatically installing  version 8.98. When I click the automatic install, it says that because I have previous versions installed, the most current install failed.
[17:18] <Zwick|2> L3top: checking now, attempting to activate.
[17:18] <splnet> trism: thanks!
[17:18] <freshone0> i cannot open either the update manager or the synaptic package manager
[17:18] <tyler_> When I try removing the previous versions from the terminal: "No such file or directory exists"
[17:18] <freshone0> it says the following:
[17:19] <jAguAr`> boii, will the wireless router that i'm connecting to the net from now work?
[17:19] <L3top> tyler_: I should have been more clear. The fglrx driver in the repo will work for you. The latest driver from ati has dropped support for the HD 2xxx-4xxxx cards. The latest driver from ATI will not work.
[17:19] <dfdfdf> file:///media/RACHID-FMA4/HP%20Recovery%201.jpg
[17:20] <tyler_> Ah... What are my alternatives? I'd like to get everything running at peak performance.
[17:20] <L3top> Just install fglrx from repo using apt-get.
[17:20] <L3top> That is the best possible version for you... (in precise this is)
[17:20] <Zwick|2> L3top: telling me to look at jockey.log, however, the log is probably much larger than I should post here :)
[17:20] <freshone0> i cannot open the update manager  it says:Could not initialize the package information  An unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or
[17:20] <freshone0> status file could not be parsed or opened
[17:20] <L3top> !pastebin | Zwick|2
[17:21] <freshone0> pls help
[17:21] <tyler_> And that fglrx driver is non-proprietary, correct?
[17:21] <L3top> It is proprietary tyler... the non prop driver is radeon
[17:21] <boii> jAguAr`, you can try by pinging your laptop or desktop IP
[17:21] <freshone0> iam new to this pls help i cannot open update manager or the synaptic package manager
[17:21] <Zwick|2> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076749/
[17:22] <L3top> !patience freshone0
[17:22] <L3top> !patience | freshone0
[17:22] <freshone0> ok so i wait...
[17:22] <tyler_> Oh. And the name of the driver is just "fglrx"?
[17:22] <_nedR>  freshone0 : have no idea about your issue but google suggested this :-  http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/problem-with-mergelist-error-when-trying-to-do-an-update
[17:23] <dfdfdf> the image of the system is in anthor disk the D but how to use it , idon't know.my HP
[17:24] <dfdfdf> HOw to share the screenshot
[17:24] <L3top> Zwick|2: I would sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*       reboot and sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates  and then I would reboot again. It just works better with reboots... you may even need to stop X while installing.
[17:24] <misha777> test
[17:25] <L3top> dfdfdf: is this a laptop?
[17:25] <dfdfdf> yes
[17:25] <Zwick|2> L3top: ok, going to give it a try.
[17:25] <L3top> freshone0: have you got any ppas installed? It seems like you have a repository problem. What happens in terminal when you sudo apt-get update
[17:26] <escapeplebville> hi
[17:26] <L3top> dfdfdf: it is very rare that you would have two different hard drives in the laptopl D: was probably a partition, and is probably gone. Please, in ubuntu terminal, pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[17:27] <freshone0> it is getting an update
[17:27] <L3top> Lets see that it completes without error
[17:27] <freshone0> ok
[17:27] <dfdfdf> the problem is  in another laptop borther's
[17:27] <L3top> freshone0: please make sure that synaptic/update mgr are closed btw.
[17:28] <genii-around> L3top: Seems like pulling teeth
[17:28] <freshone0> how to do that
[17:28] <dfdfdf> now i use sumsung
[17:28] <freshone0> mgr??
[17:28] <L3top> just the gui... which you said you were having difficulty opening freshone0. I just wanted to make sure that they were not open with the errorrs... mgr=manager
[17:29] <L3top> dfdfdf: how can I help you troubleshoot a hardware problem when you do not have the hardware available?
[17:29] <freshone0> it says failed to fetch http// extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/ release
[17:30] <L3top> can you please pastebin the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list freshone0
[17:30] <dfdfdf> i can take  screenshot
[17:30] <L3top> ... do you have the machine in front of you or not dfdfdf?
[17:30] <dfdfdf> yes
[17:30] <freshone0> pastebin
[17:30] <L3top> !pastebin | freshone0
[17:31] <L3top> Ok dfdfdf can this machine load ubuntu?
[17:31] <splnet> Any tips on how to setup kdump on ubuntu? I have set USE_KDUMP=1 in /etc/default/kdump-tools. Anything else I need to do? (using the default kernel)
[17:31] <dfdfdf> no
[17:31] <L3top> dfdfdf: can you load a live cd on this laptop please?
[17:32] <freshone0> did u see it
[17:32] <freshone0> i pasted
[17:32] <L3top> No freshone0... please put the url in here
[17:32] <dfdfdf> what  do you mean by live cd
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> freshone0  the install cd
[17:33] <L3top> dfdfdf: an ubuntu install disk
[17:33] <dfdfdf> i've an iso
[17:33] <freshone0> what do i write in the poster option in the paste bin
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> freshone0  try your name or nickname
[17:33] <L3top> can you please burn that iso to a thumbdrive or cd dfdfdf?
[17:34] <L3top> What OS is on the samsung dfdfdf
[17:34] <freshone0> ok
[17:34] <freshone0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076769/
[17:34] <dfdfdf> there is two why
[17:34] <dfdfdf> the problem is in the HP
[17:34] <L3top> To instruct you how to burn an iso to a thumbdrive if you needed it dfdfdf
[17:35] <freshone0> L3top can u see it now
[17:35] <L3top> yes freshone0 one moment please
[17:35] <freshone0> ok
[17:35] <dfdfdf> just second ,i come back
[17:36] <tyler_> L3top, I really appreciate the help you've given me. But I have just a couple more questions when you get the chance: How do I use the apt-get command to install the driver?  "sudo apt-get fglrx"? Can I install this using SPM? And after I've installed this driver, will the Additional Drivers manager still list the AMD/ATI FGLRX driver as being inactive? Thanks.
[17:36] <L3top> freshone0: I need the output of: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:36] <undersound> Upgraded my php version to 5.3.5 on 10.04 LTS with this PPA http://blog.leenix.co.uk/2011/06/ubuntu-1004-lts-lucid-php-533-backport.html. I then downgraded again to php 5.2.1
[17:36] <freshone0> monkeydust i do not have a cd i upgraded to this os
[17:36] <L3top> tyler_: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[17:36] <L3top> tyler_: it will show installed
[17:37] <zwickmobile> L3top, what was the command line for that nvidia package?
[17:37] <tyler_> Thanks :D
[17:37] <undersound> but now when running sudo apt-get update I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076763/
[17:37] <L3top> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates
[17:38] <L3top> freshone0: please sudo mkdir ~/ppas; sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ~/ppas
[17:39] <L3top> freshone0: then please pastebin the output of: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:39] <freshone0> yes in 2 min
[17:39] <L3top> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates   was at zwickmobile
[17:39] <blackout> is there someone who can help me formatting my usb stick? had fat formatted but it crashed badly .... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2015451 <- explanation
[17:40] <tyler_> L3top, the terminal syas
[17:40] <tyler_> "DKMS: install completed
[17:40] <dfdfdf> ho
[17:40] <glosoli> Is there any way to open selected program with selected Java version, for example by default I use Oracle Java 1.7, but I want to try to open some program with OpenJDK
[17:41] <L3top> tyler_: I would reboot
[17:41] <tyler_> but the last line of the terminal says ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[17:41] <tyler_> What does that mean? Am I safe to reboot?
[17:41] <L3top> glosoli: it depends on the application. Some things require sun java specifically.
[17:41] <L3top> tyler_: it means it all completed fine without problems
[17:42] <blackout> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[17:42] <glosoli> L3top: well, but how then ?
[17:42] <tyler_> Haha alright.
[17:42] <glosoli> blackout: that's for setting default isn't it
[17:42] <L3top> glosoli: I do not know that you can run both concurrently. Might be able to, but it is beyond me.
[17:43] <blackout> yeah it is
[17:43] <knapper_tech> What's the name of the package for ubuntu's default disk analyzer?
[17:43] <glosoli> blackout: how
[17:43] <blackout> there is no other way, you could wirte a script  :D
[17:44] <L3top> if I understand you correctly knapper_tech are you trying to come up with fsck?
[17:44] <glosoli> blackout: aaah,ok will try to set by default, because some IDEs looks very very ugly with Sun Java, maybe OPen JDK might be a fix for that
[17:44] <dfdfdf> i prefer a solution in  windows ,if you find no problem
[17:44] <dfdfdf> because the labtop
[17:44] <glosoli> dfdfdf: ?
[17:45] <knapper_tech> L3top:   there was a GUI to a generically named "Disk ANalyzer" under Accessories
[17:45] <freshone0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076794/
[17:45] <L3top> dfdfdf: This is Ubuntu support.  I cannot tell you how to do this in windows, because I do not know a foolproof way... and this is Ubuntu support.
[17:45] <freshone0> sorry for the dealy
[17:45] <freshone0> delay
[17:45] <trism> knapper_tech: baobab
[17:45] <undersound> anyone know how this can be fixed http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076763/
[17:45] <Pici> dfdfdf: If you want help in Windows, then you need to ask in ##windows, not here.
[17:46] <Pici> undersound: Karmic reached end of life in April of 2011.
[17:46] <freshone0> Ltop3
[17:46] <Pici> !eolupgrades | undersound
[17:46] <freshone0> did u see it
[17:46] <dfdfdf> Pici:i will try
[17:47] <L3top> freshone0: I would hash out the last two lines of that sources.list (# is a hash, just put it in front of the last two lines). gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:47] <undersound> I am not sure how karmic came into play, i was running 10.04LTS
[17:48] <dfdfdf> L3top : thank's ,i will try to ask in ##windows , a
[17:48] <undersound> trying to upgrade my php version from 5.2.1 to 5.3.5 with this script http://blog.leenix.co.uk/2011/06/ubuntu-1004-lts-lucid-php-533-backport.html
[17:48] <Alexis15> excuse me, can anyone please tell me a good syntax highlighter / FTP program for linux?
[17:48] <Alexis15> i used phpdesigner8 on my desktop, but it doesn't work on my linux
[17:49] <jrdnn> Alexis15: Vim has good highlighting
[17:49] <Alexis15> vim? really?
[17:50] <Alexis15> im not sure how i feel about writing code in the terminal
[17:50] <L3top> undersound: if I were you I would completely regenerate that /etc/apt/sources.list http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/   for lucid  and then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:50] <Alexis15> can you make it connect to an FTP
[17:50] <undersound> L3top if that solves it that perfectly fine, trying it now thanks
[17:50] <L3top> Alexis15: gedit does syntax highlighting. Should be installed by default if you are on ubuntu
[17:51] <qwebirc8505> hey can someone please help me get rid ubuntu
[17:51] <ecsi_> Hi
[17:51] <freshone0> nothing happened
[17:52] <BluesKaj> qwebirc8505, why ?
[17:52] <ecsi_> How to enable "use multithread" funkcion ubuntu 12.04 in DeVeDe?
[17:52] <freshone0> i mean no sources list appeared
[17:52] <L3top> freshone0: now sudo apt-get update   again
[17:52] <L3top> oh...
[17:52] <L3top> freshone0: you are on Ubuntu right? Not  a derivative?
[17:52] <Alexis15> L3top, can you please tell me more about gedit? will it connect to a FTP? is there a file manager?
[17:52] <freshone0> precise pangolin
[17:52] <L3top> Alexis15: it is just a text editor.
[17:53] <freshone0> i do not know what a derivative is
[17:53] <freshone0> it is ubuntu
[17:53] <felix__> hello everybody!
[17:53] <qwebirc8505> how can i remove ubuntu from my computer?
[17:53] <anthology> qwebirc8505: :) ?
[17:53] <Nautilo> how many dumb questions that can be looked up on google do you get per day?
[17:53] <L3top> freshone0: for instance kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, mint (mint is not supported but a derivative) etc
[17:53] <jrdnn> felix__: Hi
[17:54] <freshone0> it is ubuntu precise pangolin
[17:54] <felix__> if i say that i like WinXP - what are you doing?
[17:54] <L3top> freshone0: what happens when you type gksudo gedit
[17:54] <undersound> L3top After generating this list do I just replace /etc/apt/sources.list?
[17:54] <L3top> Telling you that this is an ubuntu support channel felix__. If you want to chit chat try /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:55] <L3top> yes undersound. If you like you can back yours up first for reference.
[17:55] <anthology> BluesKaj:  strange request from qwebirc8505
[17:55] <freshone0> untitled document opened on gedit
[17:55] <L3top> undersound: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bu
[17:55] <L3top> freshone0: use file open to navigate to /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:57] <j2shar> can I chnage ubuntu 12.04 startup animation(splash screen) ?
[17:57] <L3top> !splash | j2shar
[17:58] <L3top> I am afk for 5 - 10 min.
[17:58] <j2shar> L3top:thanks:)
[18:01] <freshone0> i hased the last two lines and saved the sources.list
[18:01] <freshone0> hashed
[18:02] <voldyman> guys what can i use instead of /dev/dsp. for doing like cat /dev/dsp1
[18:03] <Alexis15> ill install from the terminal
[18:03] <Alexis15> that might work better
[18:05] <blackout> has someone a solution for plotting gpsprof???
[18:08] <undersound> L3top replaced /etc/apt/sources.list but now getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076828/
[18:09] <freshone0> thanks Ltop3
[18:09] <undersound> L3top sources.list now looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076830/
[18:10] <Ady> Guys I have a Folder with a lock icon on - have tried changing permissions using terminal (sudo chown -R) - still not letting me delete the whole folder please can you advise  ?
[18:10] <L3top> undersound: sudo mkdir ~/ppas; sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ~/ppas; sudo apt-get update
[18:11] <undersound> L3top ok executed
[18:11] <L3top> what is the folder Ady
[18:11] <L3top> undersound: I would now sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:12] <Ady> L3top its just pictures / files that have been copied to ubuntu from windows via CD but now wont let me delete
[18:12] <undersound> L3top 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:13] <L3top> Good undersound... you should be at least at a point where you can do what you need to... however... do not follow that guide again. Can you tell me again what you are trying to upgrade and why?
[18:13] <Ady> L3top I just want to delete all content in folder please - never seen this before
[18:13] <L3top> Ady: sudo rm -r /path/to/folder      does what?
[18:13] <Ady> L3top noting im afraid
[18:14] <voldyman_> guys what can i use instead of /dev/dsp. for doing like cat /dev/dsp1
[18:14] <L3top> It will either give an error, or delete the folder
[18:14] <Ady> L3top icon with lock symbol on still there
[18:14] <L3top> voldyman_: I do not understand your question. Please give more detail as to what you are trying to do
[18:15] <Ady> L3top, thank you - no error's just nothing happens
[18:15] <L3top> Ady: what does ls /path/to/folder produce?
[18:15] <voldyman_> L3top, i am trying to do cat /dev/usbmon* > /dev/dsp
[18:15] <voldyman_> but ubuntu doesn;t have /dev/dsp
[18:15] <Ady> L3top will try - one second
[18:16] <voldyman_> i wanted to know what is the file that represents speaker output
[18:16] <undersound> L3top was testing some drupal module which needed zend framework beta version which in turn needed php 5.3.3. For now I just want to get php installed again (its removed somehow) and run 10.04 LTS smoothly
[18:16] <L3top> voldyman_: that will copy the contents of all files begining with usbmon to /dev/dsp
[18:16] <L3top> /dev/usbmon that is voldyman_
[18:16] <voldyman_> L3top, in my case use the mouse movement data to generate sound
[18:17] <Ady> L3top ls lists all file & folders in directory
[18:19] <L3top> Ady: ls -la /path/to           (meaning the directory which contains the folder in question)   do you have a folder.lock or anything similar to that in there?
[18:19] <L3top> undersound: sudo apt-get install php5
[18:20] <L3top> I see what you are doing now voldyman_... I am not honestly sure... let me poke around a bit
[18:20] <undersound> L3top yeah I tried that but Package php5 is not available, but is referred to by another package
[18:20] <Ady> L3top sorry i don't ....
[18:21] <L3top> undersound: do you still have your backed up sources.list file? Please pastebin it if you do.
[18:22] <L3top> Ady: sudo -s   enter your pass. rm -rf /path/to/folder
[18:22]  * L3top is very confused why you dont get a permission denied... or... SOME sort of error.
[18:23] <undersound> L3top yes was backed up here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076863/
[18:23] <Ady> L3top done that - just gives prompt - is that good ?
[18:23] <L3top> Ady: ls /path/to
[18:24] <L3top> Is it still there? or gone Ady?
[18:25] <Ady> L3top thank you so much for your help - all gone !!!!
[18:25] <L3top> undersound: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.bu /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:25] <L3top> Ady: np... dont forget to type exit on that terminal
[18:25] <L3top> Ady: it is a bad idea to run around with root perms
[18:26] <scocos> Hi, rebooted my 10.04LTS system today to pick up changes to /etc/nsswitch.conf and now the system won't get to the boot loader. Suggestions of how to fix? I did boot to a live 10.04 CD and I can mount partitions as needed
[18:26] <Zwick1204> Hey L3top, I just have one more issue, I can't seem to get my primary HDD seen. It is a Corsair 128 SSD, I have formatted it every way I can think of, and it will not show up on 12.04's Gparted device list.
[18:26] <Ady> L3top - thank you /i know however I did not set them ! - they seem to have appeard from a windows disk we used!!!!!
[18:26] <L3top> undersound: once you have your old list restored, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again... then try to install
[18:26] <L3top> Ady: we did with sudo -s
[18:27] <Ady> L3top thank you again !
[18:27] <L3top> Zwick1204: sudo fdisk -l
[18:27] <L3top> np Ady
[18:27] <idlemonkey> How to find out what window manager i am using.
[18:28] <Zwick1204> L3top:   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[18:28] <Zwick1204> /dev/sda1   *        2048   976771071   488384512   83  Linux
[18:28] <genii-around> idlemonkey: ps aux| grep dm
[18:28] <Zwick1204> only one device is seen, L3top.
[18:28] <Zwick1204> And I assure you I have two operational ones :)
[18:28] <undersound> L3top sudo apt-get update worked again ! Thanks, installing php5 still same error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076873/
[18:28] <zykotick9> idlemonkey: you should see choices at the login screen, which one do you select?
[18:28] <idlemonkey> genii-around, nothing.
[18:29] <zykotick9> genii-around: dm != wm
[18:29] <voldyman_> L3top, anything on the output mouse to speaker?
[18:29] <idlemonkey> I dont get to select. It just mounts, thats all.
[18:30] <genii-around> zykotick9: Yes, I re-read and realized that after I already posted
[18:30] <BluesKaj> scocos, try holding the left shift key down right after the bios screen until grub appears , then if it appears and you're able to login , run sudo update-grub
[18:30] <scocos> BluesKaj: Thanks, tried that. holding left shift does nothing.
[18:31] <boman> hi there
[18:31] <scocos> with or without that key held, the system stops making forward progress in a state where the TTY draws stuff I type, but no prompt whatsoever shows up
[18:31] <BluesKaj> !grub
[18:31] <gogli> supybot .....after installing and making configurational file .What should i do then
[18:32] <L3top> one second undersound and voldyman_... voldyman_ yours is going to take a tad longer.
[18:32] <voldyman_> L3top, np
[18:32] <boman> who do i talk to if i have a problem automounting ntfs on my xbmc ubuntu and I am a noob?
[18:32] <Zwick1204> L3top, I also created a partition on the SSD using Fdisk for a linux-native environment, if that helps any.
[18:32] <undersound> L3top np thanks
[18:33] <Zwick1204> It was not done within Ubuntu, just with the Ultimate Boot Disk :)
[18:33] <L3top> undersound: I am confused by that. I would think it would exist. My sources are weird. I use the mirrors technique... and it exists for me... so I can't really check which repo it should exist for you in.
[18:34] <scocos> I'm unsure if I had grub on the system (though if it was default, it probably is there).
[18:34] <scocos> If I need to reinstall grub, can I do that from rescue mode? It looks like I can repair it but that may be different than installing it
[18:34] <L3top> Zwick1204: ubuntu does not see it. At all. You also have no swap drive or anything. You have a very odd formatting scheme natively... however if fdisk doesn't find it... I am at a bit of a loss.
[18:35] <idlemonkey> window manager. how to figure it, i dint understand you helper
[18:35] <L3top> checking now voldyman_. Out of curiosity, are you blind, or is this just an audio experiment?
[18:35] <Zwick1204> When I Installed ubuntu, Win7 was originally on the SSD, and I formatted the SSD afterwards.
[18:35] <voldyman_> L3top, audio experiment
[18:36] <Jordan_U> scocos: Yes, you can do it from the root shell if nothing else.
[18:36] <gogli> how to use supybot
[18:36] <undersound> L3top what would you advice to do next, I don't mind reinstalling LAMP if that will solve the problem
[18:36] <boman> ?automounting ntfs i xbmc eden
[18:36] <BluesKaj> scocos, try the recovery kernel if you haven't yet , use the repair packages in the dialog , then you can update grub at the root prompt and reboot
[18:36] <voldyman_> L3top, your question just made me think about my whole life and have more sympathy for the less fortunate
[18:36] <Jordan_U> scocos: Try asking in #supybot .
[18:36] <greasegum> I am trying to mount my iphone4 5.1.1 using ifuse but keep getting an error from gnome-keyring. anyone that can help me troubleshoot?
[18:37] <BluesKaj> oops , my mistake scocos , ignore the previous post
[18:38] <L3top> undersound: as an experiment, backup your /etc/apt/sources.list again and http://pastebin.com/Vka4m8Fd  try that... apt-get update and install again.
[18:38] <trism> voldyman_: I can get padsp to work with python, so http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076887/ with: sudo cat /dev/usbmon0 | padsp python writedsp.py; works here, although be aware it is difficult to interrupt
[18:38] <L3top> voldyman_: me too boss. Maybe you could figure out something through your experiment that provides tonal mouse locations and hover pings... :)
[18:38]  * BluesKaj needs to cool off ...BBL
[18:40] <voldyman_> L3top, i saw something like that on TV. a camera captures the surroundings and translates it to sound. pixel by pixel
[18:40] <L3top> voldyman_: did you see trism's reply, and will that suffice?
[18:41] <voldyman_> L3top, where i can't find his reply
[18:41] <undersound> L3top still the same unfortuanetely
[18:42] <L3top> That doesn't make sense to me undersound. Candidate: 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.17     from  500 mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/ lucid-updates/main Packages
[18:42] <duality> hi
[18:43] <L3top> undersound: apt-cache policy php5
[18:43] <L3top> do you have an install candidate undersound?
[18:43] <duality> what was the command to copy ssh keys ?
 voldyman_: I can get padsp to work with python, so http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076887/ with: sudo cat /dev/usbmon0 | padsp python writedsp.py; works here, although be aware it is difficult to interrupt
[18:43] <kelbizzle> What's up everyone.
[18:43] <voldyman_> L3top, i'll try now
[18:44] <voldyman_> trism, thanks
[18:44] <wildwind> duality: copy where
[18:44] <undersound> L3top http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076901/
[18:44] <L3top> aha!
[18:44] <L3top> please pastebin /etc/apt/preferences
[18:44] <L3top> undersound: ^
[18:44] <kelbizzle> Anyone using Google chrome? Could you test this page out for me and let me know if the page tears up when you use the menu to the left? It seems to only happen in Google chrome on ubuntu. http://hillsgarage.net/wpdir/?page_id=23
[18:45] <duality> wildwind to my machine i am using :) from my server to my laptop :)
[18:45] <undersound> L3top No such file or directory
[18:46] <wildwind> duality: hmmm... sftp maybe?
[18:47] <duality> wildwind, so i could just scp the file's under .ssh from my server to my laptop ?
[18:47] <wildwind> duality: yes, as any other file
[18:48] <bekks> duality: Why dont you just create new ssh keys?
[18:48] <guntbert> duality: are you asking for ssh-copy-id ?
[18:48] <undersound> l3top think you meant this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076908/
[18:48] <undersound> L3top http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076908/
[18:49] <duality> bekks, what do you meen? i generated them on my server, don't i need them for a secure and known connections :)? or do i understand ssh wrong?
[18:49] <guntbert> kelbizzle: how is that an ubuntu support question?
[18:49] <L3top> undersound: yes. Where is that if not /etc/apt/preferences?
[18:49] <bekks> duality: You did understand it wrong :)
[18:49] <bekks> duality: _s_sh abbreviates secure shell. :)
[18:49] <kelbizzle> guntbert, because I'm trying to test out if this issue exist in the package google-chrome-stable of if it's just m,e.
[18:49] <wildwind> duality: if you generated server keys, you don't need them on the client
[18:50] <kelbizzle> guntbert, or if it's just me.
[18:50] <duality> ok
[18:50] <undersound> L3top /etc/apt/preferences.d/php
[18:50] <duality> and what if i want to connect from the client, but don't want to type my password in all the time, hey it's my server after all :)?
[18:50] <L3top> gotcha...  yes... delete that file undersound, apt-get update and install again
[18:50] <ElFizbanio> ohai
[18:51] <kelbizzle> kelbizzle, the page tears up for me in google-chrome-stable but not chromium, or firefox, or my android tablet or my ipad
[18:51] <kelbizzle> guntbert, , the page tears up for me in google-chrome-stable but not chromium, or firefox, or my android tablet or my ipad
[18:51] <BluesKaj> duality, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/11/3-steps-to-perform-ssh-login-without-password-using-ssh-keygen-ssh-copy-id/
[18:52] <kelbizzle> guntbert, so I'm wondering if this is an ubuntu issue or a chrome issue. I'm trying to figure that out.
[18:52] <wildwind> duality: you need to copy your *public* key to the server. ssh-copy-id can do that
[18:52] <guntbert> kelbizzle: understood, I was just going to ask about that, but I don't have chrome installed, sorry
[18:52] <kelbizzle> no worries, I was going to ask again in a half our or so.
[18:52] <kelbizzle> someone may come around.
[18:53] <pentarex> hey guys can anyone tell me some good screen capture application so I can record my monitor and upload the video to youtube? I am using Kubuntu
[18:53] <ElFizbanio> could someone help me with this http://i.imgur.com/tyTEd.png
[18:53] <ElFizbanio> plox
[18:53] <guntbert> !here | ElFizbanio
[18:53] <ElFizbanio> mmkay
[18:53] <ElFizbanio> howto?
[18:53] <undersound> L3top It works ! thanks very much, appreciated !
[18:54] <ElFizbanio> as in getting the same style
[18:54] <undersound> L3top, still got a blank page on some drupal sites but will figure that out
[18:54] <undersound> L3top at least php is working again
[18:54] <L3top> :) undersound np
[18:55] <guntbert> ElFizbanio: just tell us what your problem is, many helpers don't like to visit a site just to see if they can help
[18:55] <duality> ok thanks you guys, i got it working :)!
[18:55] <ElFizbanio> :c
[18:57] <kishen> hey guys how do i get out of node in the terminal?
[18:58] <guntbert> kishen: out of node? what does that mean?
[18:58] <agentgasmask> kishen: node?
[18:58] <kishen> java script...
[18:58] <sulumar> crtl c
[18:58] <kishen> oh ok thank you so much!!
[19:01] <gogli> i want to query a database but it should answer me in interactive way . Can it possible ?
[19:01] <PhantomPhreak53> I am going to be configuring my ubuntu 12.04 server to handle email. What is the best configuration/program to use to incorporate virus scanning and spam scanning?
[19:03] <guntbert> PhantomPhreak53: do you have experience running a mail server?
[19:03] <jrdnn> PhantomPhreak53: spamassassin for spam, clamav for virii?
[19:03] <PhantomPhreak53> guntbert: I setup one a long time ago and just never messed with it once it was configured so I am probably VERY rusty
[19:03] <wildwind> gogli: what database?
[19:04] <gogli> any database
[19:04] <gogli> wildwind: i want to make a program that work like a bot
[19:05] <wildwind> gogli: then use *any* interactive client for that database :)
[19:05] <PhantomPhreak53> jrdnn: I know that but really just trying to decide postfix, dovecot, currier or what
[19:05] <wildwind> gogli: read docs for your db
[19:05] <guntbert> PhantomPhreak53: then you should not run one that is publicly available , try at first in a closed network
[19:05] <gogli> wildwind :take my answer in interactive fashion and return the answer in interactive way
[19:06] <LjL> gogli: it's certainly possible, but it's well beyond the scope of #ubuntu
[19:07] <gogli> LjL : can i make my bot ?
[19:07] <wildwind> gogli: almost every SQL database have native interactive console client
[19:07] <gogli> wildwind : i want that client to use gtk
[19:08] <IdanSuper> on the ubuntu installation there is an option that encryption all my hard drive.. Can I enable now if I haven't in the installation? thanks..
[19:09] <IdanSuper> on the ubuntu installation there is an option that encryption all my hard drive.. Can I enable now if I haven't in the installation? thanks..
[19:11] <IdanSuper> on the ubuntu installation there is an option that encryption all my hard drive.. Can I enable now if I haven't in the installation? thanks..
[19:12] <BluesKaj> !encrypt | IdanSuper
[19:13] <melodie_> hi
[19:13] <grub2> sddddjdjdjdjdjdjdjj
[19:13] <jrdnn> melodie_: Hello.
[19:13] <melodie_> hi jrdnn
[19:13] <melodie_> how are you ?
[19:13] <guntbert> melodie_:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:13] <jrdnn> melodie_: Good, thanks, and you?
[19:14] <rinzler> Can the alternate installer do a system upgrade much like the full desktop one?
[19:14] <melodie_> guntbert, do you know if there is a trick related to getting grub-customize working ?
[19:14] <guntbert> rinzler: only the alternate CD can
[19:14] <melodie_> I have used it twice to configure backgrounds and details, it worked and now it does not want to display a background anymore
[19:15] <melodie_> jrdnn, well thanks ! :)
[19:15] <guntbert> melodie_: sorry, no. But someone else may know
[19:15] <melodie_> guntbert, perhaps. thanks
[19:15] <escapeplebville> how do i change the default editor from gedit to kate
[19:15] <escapeplebville> ?
[19:15] <melodie_> escapeplebville, mime types
[19:15] <rinzler> guntbert: so to be clear, I pop in the alternate disk, and I can upgrade my OS without loosing everything?
[19:16]  * rinzler is paranoid about keeping his stuff
[19:16] <guntbert> rinzler: yes, but you can do that from the running system better
[19:16] <melodie_> escapeplebville, I look in my lubuntu and tell you if I locate the file
[19:16] <guntbert> !upgrade | rinzler
[19:16] <rinzler> guntbert: thanks!
[19:16] <guntbert> rinzler: remember you need to do it step by step
[19:17] <rinzler> guntbert: ok
[19:17] <melodie_> escapeplebville, It should be "Menu / Preferences / Favorite applications
[19:17] <melodie_> "
[19:18] <melodie_> or you can try tweaking by hand : /home/you/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[19:19] <escapeplebville> melodie_: i am on 12.04 where is this menu preferences
[19:19] <escapeplebville> favourite applications
[19:19] <melodie_> escapeplebville, in Menu
[19:20] <kelbizzle> Is anyone using google-chrome on ubuntu. I'd like to test an issue with my site that seems to only exist on chrome linux. The page tears up when the menu on the left is used. Here is the link http://hillsgarage.net/wpdir/?page_id=23
[19:20] <melodie_> I can't reboot to a Ubuntu with Unity now, I have opened one which is with Lubuntu at the moment
[19:20] <melodie_> escapeplebville, try click upper corner left and type in "preference"
[19:22] <greasegum> kelbizzle: it seems to work great for me.
[19:22] <kelbizzle> greasegum, and the video shows as well?
[19:23] <IdanSuper> there's a way to encryption all the data? like in the installation from live cd? thanks..
[19:23] <greasegum> yep!
[19:24] <guntbert> IdanSuper: did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystems ?
[19:25] <greasegum> kelbizzle: nice video btw
[19:25] <jennie> help with this please http://i45.tinypic.com/2d6vzmw.png
[19:26] <kelbizzle> greasegum, Thanks I guess it's an issue on my system. Thank you. I did that with a Droidx2.  I just picked up a nice new sony and built a track dolly. The new videos will be nicer for sure.
[19:26] <melodie_> jennie, go to the preferences menu of Synaptic, and let it choose a different server, based on your location
[19:27] <melodie_> jennie, then once done hit the "Reload" button
[19:28] <kelbizzle> greasegum, any idea where there may be a chrome support channel?
[19:29] <jennie> melodie_ there is no preference menu of synaptic , also  synaptic package manager is not showing anything
[19:29] <scocos> My 10.04 LTS system is still unbootable. I've now installed grub but I get stuck trying to mount the root fs. LVM was on this system, but from the rescue CD, lvdisplay shows the LVM to be readable and OK. Any suggestions?
[19:29] <greasegum> kelbizzle: try undernet #google
[19:30] <melodie_> jennie, I give you the path to it wait a sec
[19:30] <scocos> (I'm manually booting via grub since there was apparently no grub.cnf or menu.lst or something)
[19:30] <kelbizzle> greasegum, thank you
[19:30] <jennie> ok i changed to another server location
[19:30] <jennie> but still same
[19:30] <melodie_> jennie, not any server location, one that the program will choose after a test
[19:30] <greasegum> kelbizzle np
[19:31] <melodie_> jennie, have you closed the Update Manager and opened Synaptic ?
[19:31] <d1gital_> favorite irc daemon?
[19:31] <guntbert> jennie: disable all ppa and try again
[19:31] <bekks> d1gital_: Hyperion Dancer. :) IRC client: irssi
[19:32] <melodie_> jennie, look this pic one second : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Synaptic-Package-Manager.png
[19:32] <melodie_> I come back with more info
[19:33] <d1gital_> bekks: i'll try it, thanks.  irssi ftw. =)
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> <3 irssi
[19:34] <melodie_> jennie, so in Synaptic : not in Update Manager, hit the menu "Settings > Repositories" : firt tab
[19:34] <melodie_> first tab
[19:34] <guntbert> melodie_: please regard that jennie might have problems due to using a ppa
[19:34] <scocos> I also forced fsck of the LVM partition and it came back OK.
[19:34] <melodie_> guntbert, one hypothesis at a time
[19:35] <melodie_> and configuring a fast repos will never hurt
[19:35] <linuxsage> hi, can anyone help with configuring conky not to block windows
[19:35] <guntbert> melodie_: not hypothesis, look at the error :)
[19:35] <melodie_> jennie, so there you find a drop down menu
[19:35] <avis><PHONE_NUMBER>1 nemi (tm) 2010 028   97  53 43
[19:35] <melodie_> guntbert, so what do you suggest to jennie ?
[19:35] <jennie> no
[19:35] <jennie> I am using 1204 ubuntu
[19:36] <janvdl> hi everyone
[19:36] <guntbert> jennie: do you have some ppa enabled?
[19:36] <jennie> i disabled them and partial upgrade was done
[19:36] <janvdl> i'm having a bit of trouble setting up a proxy server in debian squeeze for my raspberry pi
[19:37] <guntbert> melodie_: I will not intervene further - it was just an observation
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> janvdl  ask in #debian
[19:37] <janvdl> to retrieve packages via apt-get
[19:37] <escapeplebville> can you install a number of utilities at once, sort of give apt-get a list in a text file ?
[19:37] <janvdl> oh there's a debian channel? thanks.
[19:37] <guntbert> janvdl: this channel is for *ubuntu* support
[19:37] <escapeplebville> like a requirements file
[19:37] <janvdl> ubuntu is debian is it not? ;)
[19:38] <guntbert> janvdl: no
[19:38] <kishen> hey do you guys know any useful site for basic programming? im a beginner..
[19:38] <guntbert> janvdl: it is based on debian
[19:38] <L3top> programming what kishen?
[19:38] <[flux]> kishen: which language?
[19:39] <kishen> oh javascript
[19:40] <glosoli> how could I check if some export line in .bashrc file is correct
[19:40] <glosoli> ?
[19:41] <bekks> glosoli: By just typing it in your bash.
[19:41] <bekks> If it errors out, it isnt correct.
[19:41] <kishen> do you guys know any sites that will help teach the basic's of javascript?
[19:41] <j0llt>
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> Kindari  echoecho.com
[19:42] <DevChild> where can I ask questions related to gtk development
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> Kindari  wrong nick
[19:43] <mwallacesd> Hi I tried to do a make but it does not work, that is the ./configure results: sprunge.us/jDBA What I need to install please?
[19:44] <trism> mwallacesd: libglib2.0-dev
[19:44] <mwallacesd> It said that GLIB could not be found, How can I intall it on 12.04
[19:44] <mwallacesd> trism,  apt-get install libglib2.0-dev?
[19:45] <trism> mwallacesd: yes
[19:45] <mwallacesd> Ok! Thanks a lot
[19:45] <thozethingz> when using mdadm to build a raid1 disk  ... what partition table type and format style should I format the 2 disks?
[19:46] <bekks> thozethingz: You dont need to partition or format at all.
[19:46] <mwallacesd> Ouch, trism it is already installed, I am using gcc 4.6 i need some old version???
[19:46] <thozethingz> bekks ... so I leave them unformatted?
[19:46] <bekks> thozethingz: You can build the raid without partitions, but with plain disks. And it doesnt matter which filesystem you create afterwards.
[19:47] <wilornel> hey guys!
[19:47] <wilornel> I am having a problem when trying to compile my .cpp file
[19:47] <trism> mwallacesd: what are you trying to build?
[19:47] <kelbizzle> greasegum, well that sucks I just got banned for spam and I didn't spam anything.
[19:48] <thozethingz> bekk ... thanks for the info ... I will try
[19:48] <mwallacesd> An old and best mp3 player that I like, xmms
[19:48] <wilornel> when I compile, it says things like:  error: ‘Gluint’ was not declared in this scope
[19:48] <mwallacesd> trism
[19:48] <kelbizzle> greasegum, from #google on undernet that is.
[19:48] <wilornel> GLuint was not declared??
[19:48] <wilornel> how can I make all the Gluint and GLchar work?
[19:48] <guntbert> wilornel: this is not a programmers' channel
[19:48] <wilornel> ooooooohh
[19:48] <wilornel> alright sorry
[19:49] <wilornel> where can I go for this purpose, then?
[19:49] <guntbert> wilornel: #c++ ?
[19:49] <illannoyed> hi all.  Trying to install 12.04 to dual-boot and I'm hitting a problem.
[19:49] <melodie_> jennie, ? where are you now with your issue ?
[19:49] <Tonmaster> Is there a way to transport my data from an existing 12.04 installation to a new one without doing a big backup?, I mean just transporting the files in Documents, Images and Videos folder
[19:50] <guntbert> wilornel: actually it is ##c++
[19:50] <bekks> Tonmaster: Then you will only have that data, and not all the rest you might need.
[19:50] <wilornel> guntbert: alright thanks :)
[19:51] <illannoyed> It seems my grub is borked.  I'm getting a device not found message when I try to boot after installing.  won't let me get to ubuntu or my windows partition either one
[19:51] <Tonmaster> beeks: I just need the data ;)
[19:51] <trism> mwallacesd: yeah, it uses an out of date glib unfortunately, you'd really be better off finding a new media player
[19:51] <Tonmaster> beeks: And not the other stuff
[19:52] <mwallacesd> Ok thanks any way trism
[19:52] <melodie_> jennie, maybe with Synaptic closed, if needed : "sudo apt-get fix missing"
[19:52] <L3top> melodie_: jennie sudo apt-get -f install
[19:53] <L3top> melodie_: or --fix-missing
[19:53] <illannoyed> anyone have any suggestions on how to fix from there?  It goes to "device not found" string of device ID that I didn't write down, and then I get a grub rescue> prompt
[19:54] <L3top> illannoyed: have you tried update-grub from rescue? Might require remount with write perm
[19:54] <illannoyed> not yet.  I'm researching grub rescue commands before trying again (booted from 12.04 cd to get on net)
[20:00] <kishen> hey does anyone know how to us ruby?
[20:01] <Pici> kishen: Try in #ruby
[20:01] <duality> #ruby is awesome channel
[20:01] <kishen> is ruby hard?
[20:02] <RiXtEr-Work> does /var/log/messages not exist anymore with 12.04 ?
[20:02] <guntbert> kishen: please keep your questions in this channel to ubuntu support
[20:02] <trism> RiXtEr-Work: it is disabled by default in the rsyslog config
[20:03] <RiXtEr-Work> trism, so where would I find general log messages?
[20:03] <guntbert> RiXtEr-Work: look into /var/log/syslog
[20:04] <melodie_> L3top, ok !
[20:05] <RiXtEr-Work> guntbert, thanks
[20:05] <guntbert> RiXtEr-Work: you're welcome :-)
[20:05] <RiXtEr-Work> guntbert, now, why isn't bind9 built with dlz!? :)
[20:05] <RiXtEr-Work> guntbert, looks like I will have to manually compile it.
[20:06] <guntbert> RiXtEr-Work: no idea what dlz is
[20:06] <esak> i have ubuntu 12.04 and dell 5010 laptop. my laptop fan work more than usual. why ?
[20:06] <RiXtEr-Work> guntbert, Dynamic Loadable Zones
[20:07] <L3top> esak look at top    see if anything unusual is chewing up resources.
[20:08] <esak> l3top where i shud look ?
[20:08] <guntbert> esak: open a terminal and type   top
[20:08] <L3top> esak, in a terminal type   top        type :q  to quit
[20:09] <subz3r0> esak, maybe in coze of the temerature? :)
[20:09] <esak> l3top . ok and then ..?
[20:09] <subz3r0> here its kinda hot today
[20:09] <L3top> esak look for anything that is using up a lot of cpu
[20:10] <subz3r0> install lm-sensors and check how hot the cpu is
[20:10] <L3top> esak: thus raising your temperature, thus kicking the fan
[20:11] <subz3r0> sudo apt-get install lm-sensors, sudo sensors-detect
[20:11]  * guntbert reminds L3top about powertop
[20:11] <subz3r0> to check the temperatures -> sensors
[20:11] <esak> something is using 100% of cpu l3top
[20:12] <kurtwp_> esak: run top
[20:12] <linuxsage> join #conky
[20:15] <dergan> всем привет
[20:15] <LjL> !ru | dergan
[20:16]  * L3top is unaware of powertop
[20:17] <L3top> esak: what is using 100% of cpu
[20:17] <guntbert> !info powertop | L3top
[20:17] <L3top> ty guntbert
[20:18] <Silversong> Hi people. Just want to learn some most basic terminal commands. Say I have a file within the Public/files/programName folder (given that path), and the filename is called "start-file_EN", what do I need to do within the terminal to open that file?
[20:18] <Silversong> Because I tried cd Public and I can't even find that folder...
[20:18] <scocos> New Q: My 10.04 system basically hangs during boot. It looks like this is occurring while trying to mount the root filesystem. If I boot to the CD, rescue mode can mount it without issues. I haven't changed /etc/fstab, etc. but it's been > 2 months since last reboot of the machine so maybe some ubuntu packages were updated. Any ideas how to debug? root FS is LVM.
[20:18] <guntbert> L3top: a very handy tool, enables me to reduce power usage by 2-3 Watts
[20:19] <esak> l3top  someone say that my ATI geraphic in not install correct. so fan work more
[20:19] <Silversong> !info powertop
[20:19] <L3top> that was my next question after getting the output of WHAT was eating your cpu to confirm esak. Please give me a the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[20:21] <esak> subz3r0 someone say  heat of laptop and fan work. maybe for geraphic. i think my vga is not install correct
[20:21] <subz3r0> that could be, too. some driver issue
[20:21] <subz3r0> check alternative drivers...
[20:22] <subz3r0> or even check which card you have... with "lspci -nnk | grep -i VGA -A2"
[20:23] <L3top> that was my next question after getting the output of WHAT was eating your cpu to confirm esak. Please give me a the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA  from a terminal
[20:24] <Aptar> I need to convert some .doc and .pdf files to .epub ... anything that will do this?
[20:24] <glebaron> Aptar, check out calibre
[20:25] <esak> subz3r0  output of lspci -nnk | grep -i VGA -A2" is ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077064/ is it install coreccet ?
[20:25] <subz3r0> esak, sorry have to leave, but im sure any1 else in here can give you the help you need. ciao
[20:25] <Aptar> glebaron, didn't know calibre was available on ubuntu...thanks
[20:26] <Gosset_Inofensiu> http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/dont-kill-the-igoogle-webportal.html
[20:26] <L3top> esak that looks correct. Please give me the output of apt-cache policy fglrx | grep stall
[20:28] <esak> l3top output is --->http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077070/
[20:29] <L3top> esak that looks correct. You have the correct driver for your GPU installed.
[20:29]  * Sino cheap rum & lime & soda
[20:30] <L3top> esak: again... if you could type: top          in a terminal... it will tell you WHAT processes are using HOW MUCH cpu.
[20:31] <esak> l3top when i go to system setting then additional driver. see 2 line for ATI/AMD . i active one of them. do u want see it pic ?
[20:33] <L3top> esak: You have the correct driver installed. I have asked you like 5 times for the result of top. I am not asking anymore
[20:35] <Aptar> glebaron, Calibre worked magnificently.  thanks!
[20:35] <esak> one gedit is using 100% of cpu because im installing vga driver manule. but other time like when i open  4 or 5 tab of fire fox fan work more and have hot temperature
[20:36] <esak> l3top  one gedit is using 100% of cpu because im installing vga driver manule. but other time like when i open  4 or 5 tab of fire fox fan work more and have hot temperature
[20:36] <L3top> esak: I'm out. You aren't listening to me.
[20:39] <esak> l3top i enter top. what u want from me ?
[20:39] <esak> l3top output of top ?
[20:41] <lost_and_unfound> greetings all, i am running 12.04, can I set my 3 users to login to a different session: userA = unity, userB = gnome-shell, userC = XBMC ? I have looked at lightDM but cannot determine if this is the right config to fiddle with
[20:42] <BluesKaj> esak, it's L3top , his nick won't highlight without proper spelling, use the tab to autocomplete if you need it
[20:43] <OrtonEdge32dh> How can I run an .exe using Terminal and WINE?  I've already checked the box under properties, and Open with > Wine won't work
[20:43] <OrtonEdge32dh> I'm sure there's something to do with Terminal
[20:44] <BluesKaj> OrtonEdge32dh, not that I recall , just clicking the file should open wine or right click open with
[20:44] <OrtonEdge32dh> I tried that, it just gives me the "loading" cursor for a while and then stops
[20:44] <lost_and_unfound> OrtonEdge32dh: or just terminal -> $wine /path/tofile.exe
[20:45] <Spectacle_K> I have a keyboard shortcut on my laptop that, in Windows, locked the screen. It's useless in Ubuntu 12.04 and I was wondering if I could assign that key to lock the screen again. Is there some kind of assigning program I can use for keys?
[20:47] <OrtonEdge32dh> It keeps not being able to find the file
[20:47] <Spectacle_K> Can I assign this otherwise useless key in Ubuntu to lock my screen?
[20:48] <lost_and_unfound> Spectacle_K: the default is ctrl  + alt + L
[20:48] <mgriffin> Hi, is apparmor on topic?
[20:48] <Spectacle_K> I know what the default is, but I wanted to assign just that one button to do it.
[20:50] <Spectacle_K> lost_and_unfound: Is there a way to assign the key to lock my screen? Or am I stuck with ctrl+alt+l?
[20:50] <L3top> BluesKaj: I expect he will return with problems because he is trying to manually install a newer fglrx/catalyst driver over the proper one. It wasn't JUST that he refused to give me the output of top... I told him he had the correct driver.
[20:50] <lost_and_unfound> Spectacle_K: not running 12.04 here, but have you looked under "keyboard" as that is where the shortcuts are generally assigned
[20:51] <lost_and_unfound> Spectacle_K: you might be able to override the deault(s) there
[20:51] <L3top> depends mgriffin... what is the issue?
[20:52] <lost_and_unfound> Spectacle_K: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126782/keyboard-shortcut-for-lockscreen-not-working
[20:52] <OrtonEdge32dh> The terminal thing didn't work, I'm not sure If I know how to find the path correctly
[20:52] <BluesKaj> L3top, could be a languge barrier as well ..sometimes misunderstanding comes across as belligerence
[20:52] <OrtonEdge32dh> I'm a bit of a newbie
[20:53] <revol0xf> Spectacle_K: go to System Settings->Keyboard->Shortcuts->System
[20:53] <lost_and_unfound> OrtonEdge32dh: where is the .exe ?
[20:53] <OrtonEdge32dh> In the Downloads folder
[20:53] <L3top> BluesKaj: I expect I am much lower on the karma rung than you. You are probably correct.
[20:53] <Spectacle_K> I'm already there. Whenever I try and push the button I want to use to lock the screen it shows up as the letter 'l'.
[20:53] <studio> hey i have a problem i cant install wine it says that package dependecies cannot be resolved
[20:53] <eliezer_> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi_osi=Linux" i tried this in order to dim my backlight,,it faild,,i did something like this before and it did work can some help with this matter
[20:53] <lost_and_unfound> OrtonEdge32dh: try this in terminal $ wine ~/Downloads/file.exe
[20:54] <BluesKaj> L3top, heh, somehow I doubt that :)
[20:54] <L3top> OrtonEdge32dh: have you configured wine yet?
[20:54] <OrtonEdge32dh> I think so...?
[20:54] <lost_and_unfound> Spectacle_K: remove the current sortcut (should be something like del or backspace) then try again
[20:54] <L3top> !wine | OrtonEdge32dh make sure you check the compatability database
[20:55] <Spectacle_K> Already tried.
[20:55] <Spectacle_K> I don't know why the lock button is showing up as 'l'
[20:55] <OrtonEdge32dh> It told me to install Mono
[20:56] <Spectacle_K> Literally, there's a key on my keyboard that has a padlock symbol on it. In Windows, it locked the screen. It doesn't do anything in Ubuntu and I'd like to use that instead of ctrl+alt+l because it's just so much simpler for me. And I keep pressing it out of habit.
[20:57] <studio> hey i have a problem i cant install wine it says that package dependecies cannot be resolved
[20:57] <OrtonEdge32dh> Where's the latest Mono?
[20:57] <OrtonEdge32dh> I need it to run anything
[20:58] <L3top> OrtonEdge32dh: you probably want to /join #winehq
[20:58] <Spectacle_K> OK, totally unrelated question can someone please tell me why my trash bin got renamed 'rubbish bin'. And how that happened. It's funny, I like it... but how did that happen?
[20:59] <OerHeks> OrtonEdge32dh, The mono compiler package is mono-gmcs, if you need the entire mono stack, install the package mono-complete . current is mono-gmcs <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu2.1
[20:59] <L3top> OrtonEdge32dh: I expect it is some iteration of libmono
[20:59] <L3top> oh... nm OrtonEdge32dh... listen to OerHeks
[20:59] <OrtonEdge32dh> Not entirely what any of that means
[20:59] <OrtonEdge32dh> I'm not really a computer guy
[21:00] <OerHeks> OrtonEdge32dh, so what howto are you using?
[21:00] <L3top> OrtonEdge32dh: to install packages from terminal, sudo apt-get install xxxx        where xxxx is the package name. OerHeks gave you the lightweight and full bore versions to install
[21:01] <OrtonEdge32dh> I understood L3top just now, so hopefully that works.  I don't know what a howto is, really
[21:01] <TheLordOfTime> OrtonEdge32dh:  a "how to" is also called a tutorial
[21:01] <OrtonEdge32dh> oh, well that makes sense
[21:01] <TheLordOfTime> </clarification of terminology>
[21:01] <OrtonEdge32dh> I'm not using one
[21:02] <OerHeks> "It told me to install Mono" ??
[21:02] <OrtonEdge32dh> it being terminal
[21:04] <melkor> Is there a way to restart X from a tty without having to close all of my running programs?
[21:04] <bekks> melkor: No.
[21:04] <TheLordOfTime> melkor:  what bekks said, you have to kill all programs if you restart
[21:04] <TheLordOfTime> X
[21:04] <TheLordOfTime> EVIL SYSTEM
[21:04] <TheLordOfTime> (sorry keyboard is being evil)
[21:05] <melkor> My input wasn't working, I could move the mouse, but it was stuck as a certain type of pointer and clicking wouldn't respond. I could get to other tty's
[21:05] <studio> hey i have a problem i cant install wine it says that package dependecies cannot be resolved
[21:06] <melkor> studio: how are you trying to install it
[21:06] <studio> melkor: ubuntu software center
[21:07] <studio> melkor: and from terminal
[21:07] <L3top> studio: do you have any active PPAs?
[21:07] <studio> l3top:i think so
[21:07] <studio> how can i see that
[21:08] <L3top> studio: this is likely the problem. You can check the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list and the output of ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[21:08] <Grynn> Hi ... how do I get a list of IRC rooms in Empathy (Precise)
[21:09] <BluesKaj> studio, look in  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[21:10] <odie5533> How long after a new version of FireFox or GIMP is released will I be able to use them on Ubuntu?
[21:10] <shark> i am having problem in instaling theme
[21:10] <shark> plzzz somebody help me
[21:11] <melkor> shark: what is the problem, did you install the advanced settings tool?
[21:11] <studio> where should i post this
[21:11] <studio> the output
[21:11] <BluesKaj> Grynn, type /list in the server textbox
[21:11] <L3top> studio: if anything exists in /etc/apt/sources.list.d you could make a folder (sudo mkdir ~/ppas) and move them for later use (sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ~/ppas) if there is any output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep ppa    then hash (put a # in front of the line) them
[21:11] <shark> i install this http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal..and i customize it according to me.but cant have theme
[21:12] <melkor> odie5533: it varies. You might have better luck checking #gimp (on irc.gnome.org) or #firefox.
[21:12] <melkor> odie5533: plus if you need features of a newer version there is probably a ppa lying around somewhere with a newer version.
[21:12] <Grynn> @BluesKaj I dont have a server windows, I have a chat window and a contacts list. I opened the chat window by join room from the main empathy menu
[21:12] <studio> l3top:there is an output
[21:12] <L3top> for which studio
[21:12] <studio> for cat and ls
[21:12] <odie5533> melkor: but they won't be available in the normal repo until the next version of Ubuntu is released, correct?
[21:13] <BluesKaj> Grynn, ok , then i have no clue , sorry
 studio: if anything exists in /etc/apt/sources.list.d you could make a folder (sudo mkdir ~/ppas) and move them for later use (sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ~/ppas) if there is any output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep ppa    then hash (put a # in front of the line) them
[21:13] <melkor> odie5533: no
[21:14] <Grynn> BluesKaj Thx all the same
[21:14] <OerHeks> Grynn, you could use this ubuntu-channel list, but there are more channels ofcourse  >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[21:14] <linuxjones> hello all, i installed ubuntu server last night and am having a little trouble with the network manager, after manually configuring the wireless card im here for help, haha, its ubuntu server 12.04, and the network manager doesnt appear by the clock, if i go to system settings and network i get the message "The system network services are not compatible with this version."
[21:14] <melkor> odie5533: they have updates. I don't know about GIMP but firefox updates pretty well.
[21:14] <linuxjones> any ideas?
[21:14] <Grynn> OerHeks Thx!
[21:15] <linuxjones> any ideas?
[21:15] <melodie_> good night
[21:16] <OerHeks> linuxjones, a server with networkmanager by a clock?
[21:16] <odie5533> melkor: I don't understand. Do most packages offer the latest version in the normal ubuntu repo, or are they only upgraded when the new version of Ubuntu comes out?
[21:16] <studio> l3top:i dont understand what i should do if cat /etc/apt/sources.list give me an ouput?
[21:17] <OerHeks> linux4u, do you use some GDM on your server ?
[21:17] <linuxjones> OerHeks, haha, yeah, im just kinda playing with the server so i added gnome to it
[21:17] <studio> l3top:output
[21:17] <melkor> odie5533: packages are updated before new version of ubuntu comes out. That is what gets updated when you update.
[21:20] <odie5533> melkor: Okay, thank you for the explanation.
[21:21] <Ojje> Hi there. im having trouble with ubuntu 12.04 and mysql running tempdir on ramdisk. Apparmor wont let mysql restart
[21:22] <exutux> Hi all, I have a Sony Vaio model SVE1511F1EW right touchpad click doesn't run, when I try right click it seems to be a "left click" what I can check?
[21:22] <exutux> so 12.04 installed
[21:23] <Ojje> Got tip to set apparmor in complain mode and now i can restart mysql. but how could i get it to work in enforce mode? Got the tip that i should update /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld to have your new path and set it back to enforce mode
[21:23] <Ojje> but how could i do that?
[21:24] <swatgoss> hi all, where can i find a channel about backtrack 5.2 (ubuntu 10.04), i'm looking to add a non-root user and only root is able to successfuly "startx"
[21:25] <BluesKaj> !backtrack | swatgoss
[21:26] <swatgoss> #backtrack-linux, thanks ^^
[21:29] <joesteely> Is there a way to have minimized windows show on the taskbar on all workspaces? ubu 12.04
[21:31] <L3top> Sorry... was doing terrible hot outside work studio... cat /etc/apt/sources.list HAS to give an output. We are looking for PPAs in that output... which is why I modified the command to cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep ppa
[21:31] <schultza> what is the package for the gui editor of samba?
[21:31] <bekks> schultza: There is no gui editor for samba.
[21:31] <studio> l3top: now the things are messy :(
[21:31] <bekks> schultza: All there is, is the web interface called "swat".
[21:31] <schultza> how do i get that?
[21:32] <L3top> studio: please explain
[21:32] <L3top> studio: you will have to sudo apt-get update after making these changes
[21:32] <studio> l3top: wait
[21:32] <studio> l3top: i ve run (sudo mkdir ~/ppas
[21:32] <studio> sudo mkdir ~/ppas
[21:33] <glebaron> schultza, try installing system-config-samba
[21:33] <studio> sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ~/ppas
[21:33] <L3top> studio: that is correct.
[21:33] <studio> sudo mv ~/ppas /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[21:33] <studio> P
[21:33] <studio> :P
[21:33] <L3top> wait...
[21:33] <L3top> the second move undoes exactly what we did with the first move
[21:34] <studio> run the second command again to fix this?
[21:34] <L3top> wait
[21:34] <L3top> studio: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ~/ppas
[21:34] <L3top> studio: sudo apt-get update
[21:35] <studio> l3top: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ~/ppas
[21:35] <studio> wait
[21:35] <studio> mv: target `/root/ppas' is not a directory
[21:35] <L3top> ok... so you have in the meantime logged in as root.
[21:35] <L3top> mkdir ~/ppas
[21:36] <studio> yep
[21:36] <L3top> mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ~/ppas
[21:36] <studio> done
[21:37] <L3top> studio: in the future, please either do not do that, or let someone know. As root ~ means /root      as user ~ means /home/$USER
[21:37] <schultza> to whoever recommended swat... i found it... it's "system-config-samba". it must be ran with gksudo though.
[21:37] <studio> l3top:if i noticed that :D
[21:38] <studio> l3top:had
[21:38] <studio> l3top: so now apt-get update?
[21:41] <studio> l3top: :P
[21:41] <L3top> Sorry... my connection is poor. I have seen no reply since the command
[21:41] <L3top> *command I gave
[21:41] <studio> l3top:now apt-get update?
[21:41] <L3top> er... recommendation
[21:41] <L3top> yes please studio
[21:42] <studio> done :O
[21:43] <studio> l3top:try to install wine now?
[21:43] <L3top> Yes please studio
[21:44] <dxdemetriou> I'm trying to use "zenity --info .." with multiple lines in Ubuntu 11.10 & 12.04 but there is a problem with the spaces needed on the screen. the text could be the 1/4 height on my desktop but I cannot see the OK button because it goes out of the screen. I tried to search about the problem but I didn't found anything.
[21:44] <studio> l3top: we didnt  run the |grep ..
[21:44] <studio> l3top: i didnt :P
[21:44] <L3top> studio: almost nobody adds ppas this way... I am making a guess you didn't
[21:44] <studio> l3top:how?
[21:44] <L3top> studio: if it fails we will go back to that
[21:45] <shark> hello guys add to panel not working in ubuntu 12.04
[21:45] <studio> l3top:iam an exception :D
[21:45] <studio> l3top: and it fails
[21:45] <L3top> can you please pastebin the failure?
[21:45] <studio> l3top: k
[21:47] <exutux> Hi all, I have a Sony Vaio model SVE1511F1EW right touchpad click doesn't run, when I try right click it seems to be a "left click" what I can check? this is evtest log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1077196/ when I press "right clic" it reports LFT_BTN
[21:47] <studio> l3top: http://pastebin.com/aDiGkMKk
[21:52] <L3top> exutux: I cannot remember what you need. Give me a minute.
[21:52] <L3top> Ok studio, please pastebin the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:54] <studio> http://pastebin.com/Uu2LpLxtQ
[21:54] <L3top> exutux: sudo xev in terminal
[21:54] <L3top> press the left button and the right button. Look at the output
[21:55] <L3top> unknown paste id studio
[21:55] <studio> wut
[21:55] <studio> wait
[21:56] <studio> http://pastebin.com/9ZLR3cHY
[21:57] <exutux> L3top: then?
[21:57] <L3top> exutux: is the output the same?
[21:58] <exutux> L3top: I have cannot understand that output I have a bit of lines when I click right button
[21:59] <L3top> ugh studio... I JUST learned this lesson... is there anything in either cat /etc/apt/preferences or ls /etc/apt/preferences.d
[21:59] <L3top> exutux: all you must do is evaluate if the left click, and right click have identical output
[21:59] <hilo> hello
[22:00] <Osaka> Do we have any UX people here?
[22:00] <studio> l3top:cat: /etc/apt/preferences: No such file or directory and for the second nothing
[22:01] <hilo> I have an NTFS volume that is dirty, gparted tells me I need to use windows to fix it. I don't have Windows and all attempts to install it fail (the Windows installer fails to boot). Is there a work around that I can use to fix my NTFS volume?
[22:01] <exutux> L3top: yes it's same output
[22:01] <studio> left=right
[22:01] <exutux> yeah
[22:01] <hilo> Ultimately the goal is to change to EXT4 but it is a large volume that used to be in a windows system that I haven't been able to safely copy off and reformat
[22:02] <L3top> okeydokey exutux. If xev produces the same input, I do not believe they can be distiguished... someone will have to correct me if I am wrong... but... I don't think there is a way to assign one without the other if this is the case. You can close xev
[22:03] <studio> l3top:this make sense :D
[22:03] <L3top> gimme a second studio. I need food, badly... warrior is about to die.
[22:03] <studio> imagine if all my keyboard buttons doing the same nothing
[22:03] <studio> exutun:aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:03] <studio> exutux:aaaaaaaaaa
[22:03] <exutux> :(
[22:04] <studio> exutux:ee
[22:04] <studio> exutux: i just right hi
[22:04] <studio> ee=hi :D
[22:04] <exutux> :)
[22:04] <exutux> but I have no chance??
[22:04] <studio> hilI: i dont know :P
[22:04] <studio> hilo: ..
[22:05] <hilo> studio: yes?
[22:05] <studio> hilo:but the goal is to change to ext4 but first copy all the things inside the drive to another one ?
[22:07] <hilo> studio: ultimately the goal is to change to EXT4 on this array. But I need to back up before I can reformat (I know of no way to safely change from NTFS to EXT4). I bought new equipment and made a full backup but then the new machine failed. Then in the same week before I could fix the backup, my NTFS went corrupt after a power failure while I wasn't home.
[22:09] <studio> hilo: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fix-corrupted-windows-ntfs-filesystem-ubuntu/
[22:10] <studio> hilo: but i dont know if this method format the drive
[22:10] <sfasf> hi
[22:12] <studio> hilo:you can open the drive ?
[22:12] <studio> hilo:can you open the drive
[22:13] <hilo> studio: yes
[22:14] <studio> hilo:then why dont you copy the files to another drive?
[22:15] <hilo> studio: its 11 terabytes... I don't have the space
[22:16] <bekks> 11TB without a backup? :)
[22:16] <cc11rocks> And you have an 11 TB + drive? Holy crap!
[22:17] <studio> hilo: lol 11 tb
[22:17] <studio> xoaoxaoxaxao
[22:17] <studio> :D
[22:17] <anne0895> hello. im having some trouble with my sound settings. i can't change the sound volume anymore. when i go to the sound settings it's greyed out, i can't adjust the volume there and i can't mute it. any ideas on that?
[22:18] <studio> anne0895:type alsamixer in terminal
[22:20] <anne0895> thanks that worked ;)
[22:20] <wildwind> hilo: you better *find* a Windows box, attach the array and fix it
[22:20] <studio> anne0895:happy face
[22:22] <studio> i cant install wine
[22:22] <studio> thats the output when i try to install it from ubuntu software center
[22:23] <studio> http://pastebin.com/aDiGkMKk
[22:23] <mayhem> alguien a visto a ignacio
[22:27] <studio> nobody knows?
[22:28] <cc11rocks> Looking at it now...
[22:28] <wildwind> studio: Google gives some discussions on error message...
[22:29] <cc11rocks> studio : Try installing each dep. manually...Then you might get specific errors for the specific dep. issues
[22:29] <wildwind> studio: do you have non-standard repos in your sources.list?
[22:30] <studio> wildwind: i think so
[22:30] <wildwind> studio: check it then
[22:31] <cc11rocks> studio : Did you add them through something like add-apt-repository (don't remember specific command) or go into USC and add them?
[22:31] <OerHeks> studio, did you use aptitude with or before installing wine
[22:31] <studio> cc11rocks:both i think
[22:31] <studio> oerheks:no
[22:32] <OerHeks> oke, because aptitude can mess up the software-depencies.
[22:33] <cc11rocks> OerHeks - By doing what to it? Not checking with currently installed programs and running it against dep. and dep. issues and errors?
[22:33] <OerHeks> cc11rocks, it is the multi-arch thing
[22:33] <OerHeks> !aptitude
[22:34] <cc11rocks> Thanks
[22:34] <studio> so now?
[22:34] <studio> ,,
[22:38] <OerHeks> studio, it looks like your machine is not up2date.
[22:38] <TheEmpath> hi.  I'm running Ubuntu on VMWare on Mac OSX.  I set VMWare to connect via NAT.  When I go to the Network Manager and make an automatic connection, everything works.  Then I go to term and type ifconfig.  I then make a new connection based on the data in ifconfig.  The host computer can access the VM, but the VM cannot access the internet.  I've copied the information in ifconfig, but apparently, that's not enough?
[22:38] <Kevin`> this is probably a common question, but why isn't apt-get / aptitude update working for 12.04 ?
[22:38] <Kevin`> eg W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[22:38] <studio> 0erHeks:why you say that
[22:39] <wildwind> studio: show "find /etc/apt/ -iname '*.list' -exec grep '^[^#]' '{}' +"
[22:39] <OerHeks> studio, i checked the first missing depency "dpkg (>= <IP_ADDRESS>~) but <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu7 is to be installed' and i think you need to update first, because i have <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu7 current.
[22:39] <MobileHorse> comrades
[22:39] <darnam> hello, I hope someone can help me on this one. I have been banging my hand on it for a while now. Basically I am trying to setup a wifi hotspot using my laptop to let my ipod connect to it to let it access the internet. I used the standard network gui and it did create a network and my ipod did detect and join. Only problem is that the ipod said that there is no internet access on this network. How I am doing this wrong? Used an ad-hoc n
[22:39] <darnam> etwork and then tried an infrustucture one with the same results. Thanks in advance
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> Kevin`  make sure yu don't have a graphical software installer running
[22:39] <Kevin`> TheEmpath: you need the gateway set too
[22:39] <Kevin`> MonkeyDust: I don't
[22:39] <TheEmpath> Kevin`: Intreguing.  Tell me more!
[22:39] <TheEmpath> if you please
[22:39] <Kevin`> TheEmpath: ip route
[22:40] <studio> http://pastebin.com/sgSReUr7
[22:40] <TheEmpath> Kevin`: How can I get the iproutes on the automatic connection so that I can duplicate them on the manual connection?>
[22:40] <darnam> running ubuntu 12.04
[22:40] <Kevin`> TheEmpath: the command shows them
[22:41] <Kevin`> there's only one you probably need, for the gateway
[22:41] <TheEmpath> o
[22:41] <tking> d
[22:41] <OerHeks> studio, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:41] <darnam> I guess I need to mention that my laptop is connected to a wired connection and the ipod is connected to the laptop
[22:41] <darnam> wireless card
[22:41] <studio> 0erHeks:done
[22:42] <TheEmpath> Kevin`: Okay, I have the information, but… how can I get the netmask and gateway of that information?
[22:42] <TheEmpath> so that i can duplicate it in network connections/routes...?
[22:43] <Kevin`> TheEmpath: by looking at it?
[22:43] <studio> 0erHeks:the same
[22:43] <Kevin`> does apt-get update work for anybody here for 12.04?
[22:43] <cndiv> Hey #ubuntu, now that Google Desktop Search is gone, what should I use instead?
[22:45] <TheEmpath> Kevin`: I'm not sure what I should be seeing :X https://gist.github.com/f5971aa741a14c6bafb5
[22:45] <darnam> is there a networking channel for ubuntu?
[22:45] <Kevin`> TheEmpath: default via <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:45] <cc11rocks> Works for me Kevin`
[22:45] <darnam> works here too kevin
[22:46] <cc11rocks> I use it pretty much every day "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[22:46] <Kevin`> darnam or cc11rocks can you show your sources.list?
[22:46] <darnam> sudo apt-get update
[22:46] <cc11rocks> where is it located, sorry?
[22:46] <studio> /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:47] <TheEmpath> Kevin`: so what is the <IP_ADDRESS>?
[22:47] <Kevin`> TheEmpath: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address
[22:48] <buhman> how do I start upstart if I'm in a chroot?
[22:48] <darnam> so you want me to paste in the text or? from the sources.list file?
[22:48] <TheEmpath> Kevin`: so the IPv4 Routes for this connection should be Address: <IP_ADDRESS>, Netmask: <IP_ADDRESS>, Gateway: <IP_ADDRESS>, Metric 1?
[22:49] <shark> any one can tell me how to add new folder in menu list.. and add particular tool inside it
[22:49] <Kevin`> TheEmpath: no.
[22:49] <shark> so if i install tool from terminal it will go to that forlder
[22:49] <TheEmpath> Kevin`: Oh noes!
[22:49] <Kevin`> TheEmpath: address 0, netmask 0, gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:49] <cc11rocks> http://pastebin.com/KNCGfZg7 << sources.list
[22:49] <MonkeyDust> Kevin`  put sudo in front of apt-get update to make it work
[22:50] <MissVera> !logs
[22:50] <Kevin`> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/tjMbzQsm
[22:50] <TheEmpath> Kevin`: The OK button won't enable… I think I've done something wrong
[22:50] <darnam> thanks ubottu
[22:50] <ceti331> anyone here used launchpad
[22:51] <Kevin`> TheEmpath: if it's for the interface config, you want the actual ip and netmask there, not the ones for the gateway route
[22:51] <ceti331> i'm trying to compile compiz expo plugin in ubuntu
[22:51] <TheEmpath> Kevin`: ok lemme try it
[22:51] <yne> buenas tardes
[22:51] <ceti331> its complaining on linking about "cannot find -lopengl " "cannot find -lcomposite"
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> Kevin`  xen may be the culprit, IMO
[22:52] <Kevin`> MonkeyDust: sure sure, that affects http somehow
[22:52] <ceti331> any ideas what i need to do
[22:52] <Kevin`> MonkeyDust: also xen isn't running yet
[22:52] <ceti331> the fact it actually compiles made me think i must have all the pre-requisites
[22:52] <MonkeyDust> Kevin`  also: backports.... it's for developers
[22:52] <yne> hey como paso a español
[22:52] <MonkeyDust> es
[22:52] <Kevin`> MonkeyDust: this is the defaults from the cd
[22:52] <MonkeyDust> !es
[22:52] <yne> grancias
[22:53] <Kevin`> MonkeyDust: I haven't done anything to it other than install grub and try to run apt-get update
[22:54] <cndiv> I'm looking for a way to search the web, my gmail account, and all the files on my computer (including their contents) at once. Does anyone have a suggestion?
[22:54] <MissVera> How do I find the logs for this room on here? http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/06/30/ I just cant seem to figure it out.
[22:55] <sergiu-dev> How to register on freenode
[22:55] <sergiu-dev> :))
[22:55] <studio> how can i find the location of a folder?
[22:55] <studio> for*
[22:56] <bastidrazor> MissVera: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/04/28/%23ubuntu.html
[22:56] <yne> descargue la actualizacion 11.10 y ahora el sistema se queda butendo y no entra
[22:56] <yne> auxilio que hago
[22:56] <yne> ah, y nadie responde en ubuntu-es
[22:56] <mackmoney3000> sergui-dev, /msg Nicksery
[22:57] <mackmoney3000> sergui-dev, /msg Nickserv it will tell you how to do it
[22:57] <MissVera> bastidrazor, Thanks!
[22:57] <bastidrazor> MissVera: you're welcome.
[22:57] <wolfmitchell> ohai
[22:57] <yne> i need in spanish please
[22:58] <TheEmpath> Kevin`: Hrmmm no dice.  I put the route in the network connection, applied it, typed ip route, and I got all the information except the "default via <IP_ADDRESS>"
[22:58] <TheEmpath> Kevin`: my route is AddresS: <IP_ADDRESS>, Netmask: <IP_ADDRESS>, Gateway: <IP_ADDRESS>, Metric 1000
[22:59] <Kevin`> TheEmpath: show or describe what you entered. normally all you have to put is the gateway address by itself for the gateway
[22:59] <Kevin`> TheEmpath: are you sure that's a route and not the interface configuration?
[23:00] <TheEmpath> im gonna take screen shots
[23:00] <V3NG3NC3> hey what is the package called allows for right clicking and unzipping?
[23:01] <sergiu-dev> is it possible to learn and work with C# on linux?
[23:01] <sergiu-dev> co compile c# on lin
[23:01] <sergiu-dev> to*
[23:01] <V3NG3NC3> what are you programing?
[23:01] <sergiu-dev> :)
[23:02] <sergiu-dev> Just thuink to learn c# under linux
[23:02] <V3NG3NC3> I use c# in video game making
[23:02] <Kevin`> sergiu-dev: yes, but it may not be a good language choice since many .net bits you will find online are from microsoft extensions
[23:02] <V3NG3NC3> ----> hey what is the package called allows for right clicking and unzipping?
[23:03] <trism> V3NG3NC3: nautilus uses file-roller
[23:04] <V3NG3NC3> is that what ubuntu uses?
[23:04] <trism> V3NG3NC3: ubuntu desktop uses nautilus as the file manager, yes
[23:05] <hetii> Hi
[23:05] <hetii> Q: ls -l /sys/class/i2c-adapter show me 4 i2cbusses but when i try i2cdetect -l i got nothing and when i try i2cdetect -y 4 i got Error: Could not open file `/dev/i2c-4': No such device or address. ls /dev/i2c-4 show it.
[23:06] <studio> can somebody help me how to install wine? When iam trying to install it from ubuntu software center it gives me this output http://pastebin.com/aDiGkMKk
[23:07] <scocos> Hi, I've got a 10.04 system that no longer boots. From the installer's liveCD, I can read and mount all partitions. When I boot, after detecting SCSI devices, it just stops booting. I tried manually installing grub but I still get stuck loading the LVM for the root fs.   Or does that question make no sense.
[23:10] <Tony_> !language trisquel
[23:10] <trisquel> fail.
[23:11] <glitsj16> cndiv: ow, well in that case you might look at zeitgeist and related packages, since that is the tech that integrates all the above
[23:11] <Tony_> !language | trisquel
[23:11] <cndiv> glitsj16, thank you, I'll google for that now
[23:11] <Tony_> !language | cndiv
[23:11] <trisquel> -.- srsly, why can't I just 'apt-get install ubuntu-server' anymore?
[23:11] <Tony_> !language | FloodBot1
[23:12] <Tony_> !language | FloodBot2
[23:12] <trisquel> Tony_, please don't abuse the bots.
[23:12] <cndiv> apologize, but what did I say?
[23:12] <Tony_> !language | trisquel
[23:12] <Tony_> !language | cndiv
[23:12] <bastidrazor> !ops | tony
[23:12] <trisquel> awww snap
[23:12] <glitsj16> cndiv: gnome classic will not be able to use the lenses no, but you might do some websearching purely on zeitgeist .. or look at askubuntu
[23:12] <Tony_> !ops | bastidrazor
[23:12] <trisquel> look watcha gone done went and did.
[23:12] <studio> can somebody help me how to install wine? When iam trying to install it from ubuntu software center it gives me this output http://pastebin.com/aDiGkMKk
[23:13] <Myrtti> Tony_: tut-tut. don't do that :-( if you want to discuss unmuting, pm me
[23:14] <trisquel> (because my question was lost in the flood) why can't I just 'apt-get install ubuntu-server' anymore?
[23:15] <bastidrazor> trisquel: you could use tasksel to install server related things.
[23:15] <buhman> trisquel: shouldn't that be tasksel install server
[23:16] <trisquel> thanks, I knew it'd be something simple.
[23:18] <V3NG3NC3> apt-get is to install as ___________ is to uninstall?
[23:20] <V3NG3NC3> ---------->   apt-get is to install as ___________ is to uninstall?
[23:20] <trism> V3NG3NC3: remove if you want to keep configs, purge if you want to remove them
[23:21] <V3NG3NC3> new to terminal
[23:21] <trism> V3NG3NC3: oops, it is still apt-get in the other blank, I thought you said apt-get install, verses apt-get remove or apt-get purge
[23:21] <vox> V3NG3NC3: apt-get install is to install as apt-get remove is to uninstall
[23:21] <V3NG3NC3> kewl
[23:21] <V3NG3NC3> Ty Vox :)
[23:21] <vox> or apt-get remove --purge if you want to remove all the configuration files too
[23:22] <V3NG3NC3> now yes I like to ride it all
[23:22] <V3NG3NC3> :)
[23:22] <V3NG3NC3> + --purge = good!
[23:22] <trism> remove --purge = purge
[23:23] <phix> vox: arnt you asking the same question in #debian?
[23:23] <vox> phix: uh no?
[23:23] <V3NG3NC3> what os kubuntu irc?
[23:24] <phix> oh so your not , my bad
[23:25] <phix> i got my channels mixed up for a sec
[23:25] <epcom> oi
[23:26] <phix> hey epcom , how can we help you?
[23:27] <V3NG3NC3> apt-get update?
[23:27] <V3NG3NC3> I am trying to update fire fox
[23:28] <V3NG3NC3> and remove the previous verision
[23:28] <vox> apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:28] <V3NG3NC3> apt-get update firefox?
[23:29] <vox> "apt-get update" will update the entire package lists
[23:29] <vox> apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade any packages that have a newer version available
[23:29] <vox> you dont need to remove them first
[23:30] <trism> V3NG3NC3: if you want to upgrade a single package, it is: apt-get install package_name; (will upgrade if already installed and an upgrade available)
[23:30] <vox> or that
[23:31] <Oniklus> isn't there 'apt-get upgrade firefox' as well?
[23:31] <trism> Oniklus: no
[23:32] <Megabyte> Hello
[23:33] <Megabyte> I have noticed that commenting this line:
[23:33] <Megabyte> # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command #%sudo  ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[23:33] <Megabyte> Does NOT disable sudo su
[23:33] <Megabyte> what can I do?
[23:34] <Megabyte> ...hello?
[23:34] <TheEmpath> Kevin`: NAT settings: http://i45.tinypic.com/314t82g.png (This doesn't work, notice the lack of "default via" in the ip route)
[23:34] <TheEmpath> Kevin`: Automatic: http://i48.tinypic.com/258yttc.png (This works)
[23:35] <Kevin`> TheEmpath: remove the route, set the gateway to .2 instead of .255
[23:35] <TheEmpath> k
[23:36] <trisquel> idiot check:  just made a new partition, debootstrapped, chrooted, installed linux-image and grub, ran grub-update and grub-install, added my user; I should be OK to reboot now, right?
[23:36] <Kevin`> gateway in the top window, that is
[23:36] <Kevin`> trisquel: there's a bit more configuration I think, but with that it should boot
[23:36] <Oniklus> the gateway address is invalid
[23:37] <Kevin`> <IP_ADDRESS> is invalid?
[23:37] <Oniklus> .255 is
[23:37] <TheEmpath> Kevin`: Oh you delicious man, changing it to .2 worked.  I demand first access to baby making rights
[23:38] <MissVera> lol
[23:38] <Kevin`> hmm.
[23:39] <Oniklus> .255 is a broadcast address, so obviously it cannot be the address of the default gateway
[23:39] <Ghosthunter007> Megabyte, try this chgrp wheel /usr/bin/su
[23:39] <Ghosthunter007> chmod 4550 /usr/bin/su
[23:39] <Ghosthunter007> then make sure that no users are part of the wheel group then they cant use the su command
[23:39] <x1k> does anyone have an issue that has not been addressed or resolved yet?
[23:41] <marsfligth> Hi to all. Hi made a disaster on my Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit. I managed the passwd to add users on my samba server following a guide on the net and after the reboot it don't accept the right password. In more, I have the home directory encrypted (EFS) only this '/home/myusername'. Have you idea how to get access to my account? Thanks
[23:42] <Megabyte> root@A:/home/x# chgrp wheel /usr/bin/su chgrp: invalid group: `wheel'
[23:43] <Ghosthunter007> you would need to create the group addgroup wheel
[23:44] <Ghosthunter007> then add those who can access the su command to it like root
[23:44] <daptordarattler> marsfligth: restart into recovery mode and drop to the root shell and run "pw yourusername"
[23:44] <vox> er pretty sure the sudo group is "admin"
[23:44] <daptordarattler> marsfligth: u can then input the password you want since this will overide ur old password
[23:44] <Ghosthunter007> marsfligth, boot to single user mode and change the root passwd or your user account password with passwd <username>
[23:45] <escott> daptordarattler, think you are getting confused with osx or something
[23:45] <glitsj16> vox: i think that is the 'sudo' group now
[23:45] <vox> Ghosthunter007: i dont think ubuntu has used the 'wheel' group for many, many years
[23:45] <daptordarattler> escot: ive done that in ubuntu before "passwd <username>"
[23:45] <Megabyte> Well...
[23:45] <Megabyte> isn't it better to do something like:
[23:45] <Megabyte> alias sudo su=sudo?
[23:45] <escott> daptordarattler, you wrote "pw" not "passwd"
[23:45] <Megabyte> Except I can't find a way to make bash accept "sudo su"
[23:46] <daptordarattler> escott: my bad
[23:46] <Megabyte> I tried alias "sudo su"="sudo"
[23:46] <Megabyte> but it doesn't work
[23:46] <escott> Megabyte, you shouldnt be doing sudo su anyways use sudo -i
[23:46] <daptordarattler> escott: typing faster than thinking
[23:46] <Ghosthunter007> vox correct but if you want to disable su for other users you create the group then add root to it then change the chmod it then only root or who ever is part fo the wheel group will be able to run su only
[23:46] <Megabyte> escott: I know... I want to prevent it
[23:46] <vox> glitsj16: there is a sudo group, but there isnt usually any users in it - that's handed off to the admin group
[23:46] <vox> Ghosthunter007: ahh fair point
[23:46] <Ghosthunter007> sudo -i or sudo -s
[23:46] <marsfligth> daptordarattler: thanks for answered. I tried but I get 2 errors. First one it says that can't lock 'shadow', second one, when I type 'passwd username' and enter, it doesn't offer to change the passwor, it just skip all
[23:46] <iceroot> why is the updater in 12.04 NOT asking for a password to install new packages? (sudo password is not cashed, system was a fresh boot)
[23:47] <Megabyte> Ghosthunter007: well, how can I force alias to accept "sudo su"?
[23:47] <Megabyte> alias sudo su=sudo
[23:47] <glitsj16> vox: thanks for explaining
[23:47] <iceroot> Megabyte: please dont use sudo su
[23:48] <iceroot> Megabyte: sudo su is the wrong way for a root-shell
[23:48] <Megabyte> iceroot: I want an alias to make sudo su become "sudo"
 r u typing passwd with ur username or "passwd username" directly?
[23:48] <Megabyte> i.e, so users will actually be redirected to sudo
[23:48] <iceroot> Megabyte: and i told you that sudo su is wrong
[23:48] <Ghosthunter007> in ubuntu su is old school its not wrong it just not a common practice in Ubuntu
[23:48] <Ghosthunter007> in real unix system su is still used
[23:48] <escott> Megabyte, are you trying to blacklist for security reasons or just discourage bad behavior?
[23:48] <iceroot> Ghosthunter007: sudo su is wrong in every distro
[23:49] <Megabyte> escott: both
[23:49] <iceroot> Ghosthunter007: because its setting the env incorrectly
[23:49] <iceroot> Ghosthunter007: you are calling su as root because you already did sudo which will mess up the env
[23:49] <Ghosthunter007> su = switch user
[23:49] <Kevin`> Megabyte: why are you letting users run commands as root when they don't know how to use sudo properly?
[23:50] <iceroot> Ghosthunter007: we are talking about "sudo su" which means "get root access with sudo and then call su as root"
[23:50] <Megabyte> Kevin, there is only one user here
[23:50] <Megabyte> me
[23:50] <Megabyte> :P
[23:50] <iceroot> Ghosthunter007: and that is wrong
[23:50] <kaya> hi
[23:50] <escott> Megabyte, from a security standpoint blacklisting is rather ineffective
[23:50] <Kevin`> Megabyte: why can't you just remember not to type sudo su then?
[23:50] <Megabyte> I see
[23:50] <Megabyte> Kevin, I did say both
[23:51] <escott> Megabyte, but you can put !su in the sudoers config file
[23:51] <Megabyte> I guess I'll just add the "wheel" group
[23:51] <Megabyte> !su?
[23:51] <Megabyte> escott: how do I do that, precisely?
[23:52] <escott> Megabyte, http://nixcraft.com/networking-firewalls-security/15132-sudo-exclude-commands-disable-sudo-su-bash-shell.html
[23:52] <marsfligth> daptordarattler: I can't found the difference in your question. I type 'passwd myusernamebloked'
[23:52] <Megabyte> I see
[23:52] <Megabyte> I did try that
[23:52] <Megabyte> It didn't work
[23:53] <Megabyte> Cmnd_Alias   NSHELLS = /bin/sh,/bin/bash Cmnd_Alias   NSU = /bin/su testing ALL= ALL, !NSHELLS, !NSU
[23:53] <Megabyte> this you mean, right?
[23:54] <iceroot> Megabyte: you forgot dash, zsh and so on. as you see blacklisting is always unsecure
[23:54] <Megabyte> iceroot: I didn't... it was on that link escott mentioned
[23:54] <Megabyte> as the solution
[23:54] <iceroot> Megabyte: and what about "sudo passwd"? and then just using "su -"?
[23:54] <Kevin`> Megabyte: ln -s /bin/bash foo; sudo ./foo
[23:55] <iceroot> Megabyte: or sudo sed on /etc/shadow to write down a new hash as a password, so su - will work
[23:55] <iceroot> Megabyte: just realise that blacklisting is unsecure
[23:55] <mophead> System messages are messing up my screen. How do I repaint X without having to resort to ctrl+alt+bksp? Google tells me there's something called xrefresh?
[23:56] <Kevin`> blacklisting is also pointless, all it's doing is preventing you from easily doing something if you need to later
[23:56] <iceroot> mophead: maybe ctrl + alt + f1 and then ctrl + alt + f7
[23:57] <mophead> iceroot: just tried that; system message is still up.
[23:57] <john_-0> Hi, where does my "simple-scan" store temp files of its scanned images?
[23:57] <mophead> Ctrl+R just repaints everything in the background, leaving the sys message where it is.
[23:58] <john_-0> Anyone have any idea? :)
[23:59] <MissVera> Trying to install, Using advanced partitioning, and it says no roof file system is defined, please correct this from the partitioning menu. But I have the main partition set for ext4 mount point /home.  ?


[18:22] <MindSpark> hello
[18:25] <MindSpark> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24415331/
[18:25] <MindSpark> when I stop this service, I get unknown instance
[18:25] <MindSpark> and the jobs don't get stopped
[18:25] <MindSpark> can someone help me?