[00:00] <prx> and, i noticed it in etc/apt/apt.conf~'
[00:00] <prx> the one i edited was etc/apt/apt.conf without ~
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> prx: ~ is a backup file from your editor i'd say
[00:00] <prx> things are now working
[00:01] <prx> so you think i might have a rootkit?
[00:01] <Richhh> hitsujiTMO with an x next to nomodeset, is that on or off?
[00:01] <hitsujiTMO> Richhh: leave nomodeset off aswell
[00:01] <Richhh> no x means off?
[00:02] <Richhh> options have no x by default
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> prx: i presume so
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> prx: wrong person
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> Richhh: i presume so
[00:02] <Richhh> k
[00:02] <prx> lol dont scare me
[00:03] <standoo> how much space does a stripped down ubuntu without gui take?
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> prx: a quick google doesn't seem to list it anywhere so hopefully not
[00:04] <prx> hitsujiTMO, list what? the ip?
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> standoo: depends on the packages you install, 600mb is about the absolute minimal, but that's with a barely usable system.
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> prx: i searched http_proxy and the ip, normally if it was some sort of malware, someone would have written about it somewhere
[00:06] <prx> or he just had a huge list of them proxies
[00:06] <prx> any other ways to see if i was infected?
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> standoo: why exactly are you asking? do you have some sort of space limitation
[00:06] <prx> i'll use wireshark, but let me know if you got any tricks...
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> prx: wireshark should do the trick alright
[00:10] <nbros652> anyone here, let's say I want to start the screensaver on all DISPLAYs on a given computer in the event that someone is logged in at DISPLAY :0, :1... Is there a way to determine how many are up and running and what user is logged in at that display?
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> fire
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> doh
[00:12] <diverdude> is it possible to do scp so that it prompts for both username and password?
[00:13] <hitsujiTMO> diverdude: no, here's a workaround: http://serverfault.com/questions/14094/can-i-make-scp-prompt-me-for-a-username-and-password
[00:14] <nbros652> diverdude: write a shell script to ask for username, pass input into a connection attempt which will ask for password.
[00:15] <geoff_> hi everybody!
[00:15] <jmgk> hi
[00:16] <geoff_> what's your favorite DE?
[00:17] <Richhh> hasnt hung yet but getting a lot of errors like       unable to read page, block, ....     invalid python installation, unable to open /usr/include ....     end_request: i/o error, dev sr0, sector 277216
[00:17] <genii> !polls
[00:18] <Richhh> infact it may have hung there
[00:18] <Richhh> nope, getting more I/O errors
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> Richhh: what are you installing from? usb or dvd?
[00:19] <Richhh> dvd
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> probably a bad burn, try again at a slower burn speed
[00:21] <standoo> don't want to be a troll
[00:21] <standoo> but what's this about spyware and amazon?
[00:22] <Richhh> ok
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> standoo: you can the only sources. what version of ubuntu are you on?
[00:23] <standoo> raring
[00:23] <Richhh> standoo http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash-or-disable-the-feature
[00:23] <standoo> and i'm not using a DE
[00:23] <nbros652> anyone here, let's say I want to start the screensaver on all DISPLAYs on a given computer in the event that users are logged in at DISPLAY :0, :1... Is there a way to determine how many are up and running and what users are logged in at each display?
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> standoo: then you have nothing to worry about, its a feature in unity
[00:25] <ath_> can i ask you guys questions if I am using elementary os?
[00:25] <standoo> ok
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> ath_: that's not supported here
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> ath_, Not supported here
[00:26] <ath_> ok thanks :)
[00:30] <signal> hey
[00:31] <Guest23069> how come when i remote desktop into my ubuntu box, i only see a blank desktop?
[00:31] <Guest23069> where are my firefox icons and such
[00:33] <odium> I'm in 13.10 with a bluray drive, but cannot play them, any idea?
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> !bluray | odium
[00:36] <SIgnalMan> how come i cant see my laucnher icons when i remote desktop into my ubuntu box?
[00:36] <SIgnalMan> i just see a blank desktop
[00:37] <garcianc> how do you remote to your system?
[00:37] <SIgnalMan> using windows
[00:37] <SIgnalMan> windows remote desktop
[00:38] <Ben64> what do you use on ubuntu to remote in
[00:38] <parduse> isnt it for win2win pcs?
[00:38] <SIgnalMan> xrdp
[00:39] <Ben64> i've never used it, but it sounds like it's probably making a 2nd x server
[00:39] <`Fibz`> okay, i added nomodeset to /etc/default/grub and ran sudo update-grub and restarted, but i still have no bootsplash or the XFCE splash. its just a blank screen untill the system is fully booted and logged in (auto-login enabled)
[00:39] <`Fibz`> what now?
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> `Fibz`, At grub hit e remove the quiet splash for a text boot and see whats there nomodeset is a low graphic boot
[00:42] <`Fibz`> k
[00:43] <garcianc> SIgnalMan, have you tried changing your gnome session settings to something other than unity? just guessing
[00:43] <mIKEjONES> hello, I recently tried to install ia32-libs-multiarch on 13.04
[00:43] <mIKEjONES> and my entire system is hosed, X will no longer start
[00:45] <mIKEjONES> and if I try to apt-get remove anything it says "dpkg error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libsane_1.0.23-0ubuntu1_i386.dev: (unpack)"
[00:45] <mIKEjONES> "trying to overwrite shared 'etc/sane.d/dc240.conf'
[00:46] <Anonynimity> could someone please point me to a fix for this?
[00:46] <Anonynimity> hello. I just upgraded from ubuntu 13.04 to ubuntu 13.10 and I have no launcher or gnome-indicator.
[00:47] <mIKEjONES> how come I can't use apt-get install?
[00:47] <mIKEjONES> everytime I try to install something it complains about some package that failed to install
[00:48] <Ben64> mIKEjONES: sounds like you broke stuff
[00:48] <mIKEjONES> no, it broke itself
[00:48] <mIKEjONES> I tried to apt-get install ia32-libs as I have in the past
[00:48] <Ben64> that doesn't really happen
[00:48] <mIKEjONES> except 13.X is broken
[00:48] <garcianc> mIKEjONES, can you sudo apt-get update?
[00:48] <mIKEjONES> garcianc: yea that work
[00:49] <mIKEjONES> works*
[00:50] <hitsujiTMO> mIKEjONES: try: sudo apt-get clean
[00:51] <mIKEjONES> it works for 5 seconds
[00:51] <mIKEjONES> but then it tries to install some other package that broke a while ago
[00:51] <mIKEjONES> so I'm trying to apt-get install irssi
[00:51] <mIKEjONES> but it's complainigna about libsane:i386 being a dependency to ia32-libs-multiarch
[00:52] <Ben64> pastebin "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> mIKEjONES, Do you have broken packages?
[00:53] <mIKEjONES> wilee-nilee: I tried to install ia32-libs as I have in the past
[00:53] <mIKEjONES> but apparently it's insanely broken on 13.0X
[00:53] <genii> ia32 libs does not exist anymore since multiarch support
[00:53] <Ben64> ia32-libs has been ditched in favor of multiarch
[00:53] <mIKEjONES> I apt-getted ia32-libs-multiarch
[00:53] <mIKEjONES> and it has totally fucked up my system
[00:54] <Ben64> watch the language, and pastebin the stuff i asked you to
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> wilee-nilee, That does not answer the question "then it tries to install some other package that broke a while ago" What does this mean, and run the command Ben64 gave you and pastebin it
[00:55] <mIKEjONES> http://pastebin.com/kr7YB0Wv
[00:55] <Ben64> thats not what i said : /
[00:55] <mIKEjONES> oh
[00:55] <hitsujiTMO> mIKEjONES: do what it tells you to do: sudo apt-get -f install
[00:56] <Ben64> mIKEjONES: and using root like that is not recommended
[00:57] <mIKEjONES> Ben64: sudo times out kind of weird, I won't like prepending sudo in front of commands when I have to do sysadmining
[00:57] <mIKEjONES> I'm sure there is no difference between apt-get running as root or being sudo'd to run as root
[00:57] <mIKEjONES> http://pastebin.com/TqmuC3kB
[00:57] <mIKEjONES> ^ apt-get update
[00:57] <Ben64> well its more dangerous to be doing stuff as root all the time
[00:58] <dogslob> Installed ubuntu, grub failed.  I get a blank screen with a cursor.  Help?
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[00:58] <mIKEjONES> well when I have to run apt-get and edit different files in /, I feel like running as root is recommended
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> that may or may not be a grub failure. grub is hidden by default if ubuntu is the only os installed
[00:58] <mIKEjONES> not quite sure what alternatives you would suggest
[00:59] <mIKEjONES> maybe chmodding -R 777 / ?
[00:59] <Ben64> sudo. its very easy to use
[00:59] <mIKEjONES> yea it is
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> mIKEjONES:  you may as well do a reinstall if you are trying stuff like that.
[00:59] <mIKEjONES> sudo -s is even simpler
[00:59] <genii> Recommended is sudo -i    and exit after.
[00:59] <Ben64> genii: no, you almost never need a root shell
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> mIKEjONES: have you run: sudo apt-get -f install
[01:00] <dogslob> Can you install Ubuntu without Grub?
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> dogslob:  you could install it.. but how would you boot it.
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | dogslob
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> dogslob: you can, you can install it with lilo
[01:01]  * genii ponders binutils-multiarch and dpkg --add-architecture i386
[01:01] <mIKEjONES> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/7S3SBUKr <- apt-get -f install
[01:02] <zipper> However when I try sudo apt-get --reinstall ruby1.8
[01:02] <dogslob> What are the issues with a uefi?
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> mIKEjONES: are you using a conflicting ppa?
[01:02] <mIKEjONES> no
[01:02] <garcianc> on the sudo issue, you can try an experiment and sudo vi <some filename>, then save it. Then check the owner of the file.
[01:02] <mIKEjONES> this is all vanilla raring
[01:03] <zipper> I ran: apt-cache search ^ruby$ and got output as `ruby` and `ruby1.8`
[01:03] <zipper> However when I try sudo apt-get --reinstall ruby1.8 ruby I get the error Invalid operation ruby1.8
[01:03] <zipper> How can I reinstall ruby?
[01:03] <SuperLag> mIKEjONES: I'd almost try moving that /etc/sane.d/dc240.conf file an try the operation again.
[01:03] <genii> hitsujiTMO: Since they were able to start the install of ia32-libs and it's not in 13.10, then it's coming from somewhere.
[01:03] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: hitsujiTMO: what do you guys think of my suggestion? ^^^
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> zipper: sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[01:03] <mIKEjONES> SuperLag: is there any way to just canel this package from being installed
[01:04] <mIKEjONES> apt seems hellbent on installing this package
[01:04] <mIKEjONES> like there is no way I make it forget it about it and remove it
[01:04] <SuperLag> mIKEjONES: something you requested for install has it as a dependency, so no.
[01:04] <mIKEjONES> any invocation of apt now turns into it wanting to install random packages
[01:04] <genii> Ah, 13.04, not 13.10, nvm then.
[01:04] <mIKEjONES> SuperLag: seriosuly?
[01:05] <mIKEjONES> there is no way to remove the package that wants to install this depedency?
[01:05] <mIKEjONES> until the dependency is installed?
[01:05] <SuperLag> mIKEjONES: but do you know which package it was that required sane in the first place?
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> mIKEjONES: i would go with superlags suggestion and rename the conflicting .conf
[01:07] <zipper> hitsujiTMO: Thanks
[01:08] <msdw> who knows how to install apache 2.4 in 12.4
[01:11] <hitsujiTMO> msdw: have you looked for a ppa?
[01:12] <msdw> not really i downloaded 2.4 and compiled it but mmm didnt work as i thought
[01:12] <nbros652> anyone, let's say I boot my computer, and without logging into any accounts from the login screen, I switch to tty1. Is it possible for me to log a user into the graphical interface from tty1?
[01:14] <msdw> any ppa in mind???/
[01:14] <hitsujiTMO> msdw: running apache httpd is not a straight forward process, you need to set configurations, in 2.4s case theres a number of environment vars that must be set. a ppa should have a basic config for you.
[01:14] <msdw> ok
[01:14] <hitsujiTMO> msdw: is there a particular reason why you need 2.4?
[01:15] <msdw> ive heard about a ddos issue on 2.2 that there no patch for
[01:16] <hitsujiTMO> msdw: that sounds unlikely, do you have a link to the article?
[01:16] <msdw> no sorry
[01:16] <hitsujiTMO> msdw: if its not patched for 2.2 then its most likely in 2.4
[01:19] <msdw> so ill just stick to 2.2 then thanx
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> msdw: ubuntu's apache is on 2.2.22 http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-45/product_id-66/version_id-93077/opdos-1/Apache-Http-Server-2.2.15.html lists no dos vulnerability on it
[01:22] <moppy> hitsujiTMO, first row on that page.
[01:22] <hitsujiTMO> thats for a module specific to 2.2.25   you are not using that version (unless you are using a ppa)
[01:23] <msdw> i check and the prob is only with centos
[01:24] <moppy> not sure we're looking at the same page ...
[01:24] <msdw> is there any security config for 2.2 you could share
[01:25] <moppy> ok, ubuntu has patched it
[01:26] <haruuhi> hero
[01:26] <haruuhi> I have a noobie question about updating an IRC Server
[01:28] <Xse7e> kd os brasileiros da sala°?
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> !br
[01:29] <haruuhi> don't seem like someone is in that room. idk
[01:29] <msdw> what do you need to update on the irc
[01:30] <hitsujiTMO> msdw: the default config is actually quite secure, its php (or any other interpreter) is generally what you have to worry about
[01:30] <msdw> ok
[01:31] <hitsujiTMO> haruuhi: ask the question, there's plenty of people here, just not hugely active at this very instance
[01:31] <haruuhi> thank you hitsujiTMO
[01:33] <mIKEjONES> I know package management can be hard, but this is absolutely ridiculous, why does canonical put out such untested stuff
[01:33] <mIKEjONES> back to redhat it is
[01:33] <mIKEjONES> apt kind of feels like package'r'us
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> im not even sure why youre were manuallu installing that i386 stuff
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> but ive only seen about half the posts. :)
[01:34] <haruuhi> I'm attempting to upgrade my ircd-hybrid server from 7.0 to 8.1.8, but am having some difficulties
[01:34] <Shicky256> Red Hat?! Fedora is WAY more unstable than Ubuntu! If anything, you should switch to arch.
[01:34] <jmgk> hi haruuhi ?
[01:35] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: he wanted ia32-libs like he installed on previous versions
[01:35] <haruuhi> After running the install, i can't seem to launch it with /etc/init.d/ircd-hybrid8.1.8
[01:35] <haruuhi> thata beings said, I think I got it running, but when I port scan with nmap from another box, it tells me that that the ports are closed
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> haruuhi:  try the service command perhaps?
[01:36] <haruuhi> also, I can't connect to the irc server via loopback
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> check your firewall rules - with iptables --list
[01:36] <Ben64> haruuhi: where are you getting these versions from
[01:36] <haruuhi> issue isn't that it's not running, but that it'
[01:36] <haruuhi> the ports are closed. ufw is enabled and allowing ports 6666-6669
[01:36] <exco> I can't login from lightdm (get thrown back to login screen) ... how to debug?
[01:36] <jmgk> haruuhi:  try logging int rooter
[01:37] <mIKEjONES> does the ubuntu install CD have a way of reinstalling ubuntu on a partition and completely wrecking all of the previously installed stuff while keeping /home intact?
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> exco:  common issue.. the .Xauthority file is goofing you up. try renameing it.
[01:37] <msdw> yes
[01:37] <exco> Dr_Willis, tried that ... still no go
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> exco:  make a new user - see if it works for them
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> exco: ctrl+alt+f1  login and create a new user and see if you can log inwith that
[01:37] <Ben64> haruuhi: where are you getting these versions from? precise, quantal and raring have version 7.2.2, saucy has 8.0.9, we can't support software from other sources
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> exco:  if so - then its some config in yoyur problem users account causing the issue
[01:37] <msdw> if you install the ubuntu from the cd it doesnt touch the home file
[01:37] <exco> also guest is not working
[01:38] <nownot> https and networking seem to be dead, need help setting up a reverse proxy, anyone have any experience? this is my proxiedhosts file in sites-enabled http://pastie.org/8435984
[01:38] <haruuhi> ircd-hybrid
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> exco, You do an distro upgrade with cinnamon installed per-chance?
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> if a newly made user also has same issue.. thats a sign of a deeper issue. You may want to install a 2nd desktop to test out also exco  like  lubuntu-desktop
[01:38] <haruuhi> http://www.ircd-hybrid.org/
[01:38] <Ben64> haruuhi: as i just said, we can't support software from other sources
[01:39] <exco> new user is not working either Dr_Willis
[01:39] <exco> wilee-nilee, no, no cinnamon
[01:39] <haruuhi> 1. person is saying router, another is staying .Xauthority file
[01:39] <nownot> followed this guide http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Apache2_reverse_proxies
[01:39] <exco> wilee-nilee, found that cinnamon related blogpost earlier
[01:39] <hitsujiTMO> exco: did you play around with any of the configs in /etc/default?
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> col
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> cool*
[01:40] <exco> hitsujiTMO, not that I know of ... but may be
[01:40] <exco> can't I check the log file what's the problem?
[01:40] <|Anthony|> are there any text editors that offer collapsing nodes?
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> haruuhi:  cant really be the router if localhost is failing
[01:40] <|Anthony|> working with .yml files mostly
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> |Anthony|: gui ot tui?
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> |Anthony|:  fte, geany, vi  all hve some sort of folding features
[01:41] <|Anthony|> hitsujiTMO, gui is preferred. i use gedit right now
[01:41] <jmgk> haruuhi: ?
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> emacs has every feature in existance also
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> |Anthony|: i'll always recommend sublime text
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> |Anthony|:  try geany.
[01:41] <|Anthony|> geany and sublime
[01:42] <|Anthony|> thank you Dr_Willis and hitsujiTMO
[01:42] <exco> lightdm.log tells me terminated with signal 15?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> exco:  but lightdm is working fine. just Unbuntu/Unity is not?
[01:44] <exco> Dr_Willis, yes
[01:45] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[01:45] <|Anthony|> hitsujiTMO, sublime looks really nice, but it's $70
[01:45] <|Anthony|> i'm not used to using proprietary software like that
[01:45] <|Anthony|> heh
[01:45] <hitsujiTMO> |Anthony|: you can use it without registering
[01:46] <saif_forge> bitches ain't nothin' but hoes and tricks
[01:46] <lotuspsychje> !language | saif_forge
[01:46] <|Anthony|> ^
[01:46] <smuxi> hi
[01:46] <hitsujiTMO> |Anthony|: you just get an annoyning message every 7 or so saves...  you should try it... most people enjoy it so much they're happy to fork over the money
[01:46] <haruuhi> haven't done anything with the /etc/default
[01:48] <saif_forge> bitches still ain't nothin' but hoes and tricks
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> |Anthony|: emacs is the only thing that comes close to being as powerful in the free world
[01:48] <smuxi> :)
[01:48] <|Anthony|> :)
[01:48]  * smuxi would like some help
[01:49] <lotuspsychje> !ask | smuxi
[01:49] <smuxi> ok ok
[01:49] <smuxi> 2 ubuntus in vmware (with "host only" network adapters), 1 ubuntu as dhcp server, 1 ubuntu as dhclient
[01:49] <sarvsav> !patience
[01:49] <shicky256> ~/exit
[01:49] <smuxi> dhclient is not getting nor finding the dhcp server
[01:50] <smuxi> I have been trying to renew the client addresss
[01:50] <smuxi> but it is not getting any from the dhcp server
[01:51] <hitsujiTMO> smuxi: you cannot network host only vms. you need to put them in in a subnet group
[01:52] <smuxi> I see
[01:53] <smuxi> hitsujiTMO: vmware says that I can network several vms to the same "host only" net
[01:53] <monst> If I have an ubuntu 12.04 virtubox image that has Encrypted LVM + Encrypted Home. If its turned off how safe is it? As safe as the paraphrase?
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> exco:  id install some backup desktop - so you at least have a useable system- even if its not running unity. then you can test things out more
[01:55] <msdw> monst: yes
[01:55] <monst> msdw: so you would consider that a pretty secure setup?
[01:56] <NCS_One> hi
[01:56] <exco> Dr_Willis, seems the upgrade didn't go through ... have 879 packages to upgrade running dist-upgrade ...
[01:57] <NCS_One> I always had some issues with unity, could it be the nvidia drivers? I currently have 304
[01:57] <jmgk> haruuhi:  ?
[01:59] <jmgk> haruuhi:  around ?
[01:59] <hitsujiTMO> NCS_One: what issues exactlu?
[02:00] <omnomnOMINOUS> Hello! I'm doing a fresh install of ubuntu 13.10 on top of ubuntu 13.04. When I installed 13.04, I chose "encrypt my home folder".  Now, when I'm reinstalling, if I choose "encrypt my home folder" again, and choose the same password, I shouldn't lose any data, right?
[02:00] <brli> hi, anyone have experience with firefox globalmenu working with kde?
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> unity can get picky sadly with the 3d drivers. :(  not seen any really details of why 3d drivers are working. but unity dont run (well its compiz thts not running)
[02:01] <Ari-Yang> Dr_Willis: "3D drivers" == fglrx?
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> Ari-Yang:  or nvidia for nvidia cards
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> then theres the open sourced drivers that can provide 3d for some cards
[02:03] <Ari-Yang> Dr_Willis: but were you referring to fglrx when in previous statement?
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> ive even seen the built in intel drivers hve issues.
[02:04] <exco> Dr_Willis, might be a problem here ... 5 nvidia nvs440 in my box ...
[02:04] <Ari-Yang> because fglrx is garbage compared to open source radeon
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> Ari-Yang:  i dont use fglrx :)  i got 1 ati system.
[02:04] <Ari-Yang> k
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> exco:  you got 5 video cards in one box?
[02:04] <hitsujiTMO> smuxi: what software are you using? thats not the case with what i'm familiar with
[02:04] <gabriel> hello
[02:05] <gabriel> I need to learn linux
[02:05] <smuxi> hitsujiTMO: I'm using vmware on osx
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> !manual | gabriel
[02:05] <Ari-Yang> gabriel: nice, start with by googling "learning linux'
[02:05] <hitsujiTMO> smuxi: vmware is a company ... what software are you using?
[02:05] <smuxi> to run these 2 ubuntu vms
[02:05] <exco> Dr_Willis, yes and 5x8pci-e ;-)
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> then find guides and books and tutorials on whatever topic of linux suites you next gabriel
[02:05] <smuxi> vmware fusion, histo
[02:05] <smuxi> hitsujiTMO: *
[02:05] <NCS_One> hitsujiTMO: sometimes it frezzes and the is very slow, like with breaks
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> exco:  so.. you dont need a space heater in your room to keep the chill out. ;P
[02:06] <jmgk> hey Dr_Willis is haruuhi around?
[02:06] <msdw> gabriel: if you want i get pass you some book
[02:06] <NCS_One> hitsujiTMO: this happens most of the time when I change desktop
[02:06] <jmgk> hm
[02:06] <smuxi> let's see
[02:06] <hitsujiTMO> smuxi: have you ensured that they are both indeed on the same vmnet and that vmwares dhcp server is disabled?
[02:06] <NCS_One> hitsujiTMO: a few times
[02:06] <smuxi> hitsujiTMO: they are both in the same vmnet, but vmware dhcp server is enabled
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> gabriel:  see what delicious.com has bookmarked/tagged the most for linux tutorials also. ;)
[02:07] <smuxi> hitsujiTMO: it is enabled because it worked fine yesterday in this way
[02:07] <hitsujiTMO> NCS_One: what graphics chipset are you using?
[02:07] <smuxi> hitsujiTMO: I only needed to put the interface down, restart the dhcp server and put the interface back to up state
[02:08] <smuxi> today is a different response, tho
[02:08] <hitsujiTMO> smuxi: wait, did you not say that you were using an ubuntu vm as a dhcp server also?
[02:08] <smuxi> yes hitsujiTMO
[02:09] <smuxi> hitsujiTMO: I have 1 ubuntu vm as dhcp, but seems that it has issues with the vmware fusion dhcp server
[02:09] <hitsujiTMO> smuxi: then you should have vmwares dhcp sever disabled. otherwise you're running into conflicts
[02:10] <Ben64> wait, how is that an ubuntu issue at all
[02:10] <Ben64> vmware on osx.....
[02:10] <smuxi> hitsujiTMO: makes sense
[02:10] <smuxi> I will work on that
[02:10] <smuxi> Ben64: is used to work before
[02:10] <smuxi> it used*
[02:11] <jmgk> haruuhi:  are you still around ?
[02:11] <NCS_One> hitsujiTMO: VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98M [GeForce G 103M] (rev a1)
[02:12] <Ben64> jmgk: obviously not, stop asking?
[02:12] <jmgk> sorry
[02:12] <hitsujiTMO> ns_one: install unity-tweak-tool and disable background blur in "search"
[02:12] <hitsujiTMO> ncs_one: ^
[02:15] <Crazyzurfer> hey guys.. how do I know if my nvidia 650m driver is installed? --> using ubuntu 13.10
[02:16] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: can you see something on the screen?
[02:16] <Crazyzurfer> yes
[02:17] <uncle_ben> i have an issue with an older dell dimension 2400, during boot, bios always complains: alert: previous fan failure.  the fan works fine...i cleared the system event log and it made no difference.  one thing i noticed is the the fan cable has four female connectors, but the mobo fan connector has only three pins...could that have something to do with the error message
[02:17] <omnomnOMINOUS> Crazyzurfer, try going to Software & Updates > Additional Drivers?
[02:17] <Crazyzurfer> but I've got 2 video cards, and I know one of them is obviously working, but I want to know if the nvidia driver is installed
[02:17] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: it's installed ... you can see what drivers are getting loaded in your xorg log ... /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:17] <omnomnOMINOUS> I think that should tell you whether a proprietary video card driver is installed.
[02:17] <uncle_ben>  i got the computer used, so not sure if fan is original, but it works
[02:17] <omnomnOMINOUS> If I had chosen "encrypt my home folder" when I installed ubuntu 13.04, and now I want to do a clean install of 13.10 on top of it, without destroying my old data, is that possible? If I choose "encrypt my home folder" again, with the same password, will that be safe?
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: you might want to have a look at this to get your optimus running: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[02:19] <msdw> omnomnOMINOUS: you could try to update from the cd this way it  respects your data
[02:20] <hitsujiTMO> uncle_ben: sounds like someone replaced it with the wrong type of fan.
[02:20] <omnomnOMINOUS> msdw: I want to do a clean install, because my old install was broken. =/
[02:20] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: I've got it, because when upgraded to 13.10 I didn't have graphic interface, installed it and then worked... by the way that xorg log doesn't say anything about nvidia
[02:20] <msdw> then the safes way is to back up you home and then do fresh install
[02:21] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: have you run optirun on anything to test it?
[02:21] <Crazyzurfer> omnomnOMINOUS: It doesn't say anything.. it says, there are no aditional drivers
[02:21] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: nope, how can I do that?
[02:21] <uncle_ben> hitsujiTMO, i mean it's not critical...the fan works..i just hit F1 and keep going, but it's kind of annoying
[02:22] <cvtsx> Whats the best c++ ide on ubuntu?
[02:22] <Ben64> !best | cvtsx
[02:22] <cvtsx> k
[02:23] <msdw> cvtsx: try netbeans
[02:23] <cvtsx> Does ubuntu have python 3.0 preinstalled?
[02:23] <cvtsx> and thx msdw
[02:23] <donavan01> how can I tell what chipset my wireless card uses?
[02:23] <cvtsx> 12.04
[02:24] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: ran optirun firefox and got: (process:5661): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed --> is that normal?
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: install mesa-utils that gives you glxgears. run it from the command line with and without optirun ... if theres a noticable difference in fps then you're good
[02:25] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: that looks like a known bug in firefox. try glxgears
[02:26] <uncle_ben> donavan01, try sudo lshw (assuming you have that package installed...if not...install it)
[02:27] <donavan01> I tried that and the only thing it says under wlan0 is wireless interface
[02:27] <NCS_One> hitsujiTMO: thanks, I'll try it later
[02:27] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: I see not difference, both worked at 59.8 and 59.9 fps
[02:28] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: its vsyncing ... i get 1k fps on a crappy gpu
[02:29] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: 2 secs, ill see how to turn off the vsync
[02:30] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: do you have nvidia settings installed?
[02:32] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: the only thing I've installed is bumblebee and bumblebee-nvidia, nothing else... should I have it? :)
[02:32] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: can you try run it with by typing: vblank_mode=0 glxgears
[02:32] <Crazyzurfer> I'm new with ubuntu
[02:32] <Crazyzurfer> :O got
[02:32] <Crazyzurfer> vblank_mode=0 glxgears
[02:33] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: and then ofcourse try: optirun vblank_mode=0 glxgears
[02:33] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: [15942.328392] [ERROR]Error running "vblank_mode=0": No such file or directory
[02:33] <xrandr> Hello, has anyone encountered a problem with cinnamon on Ubuntu 13.10? I've been able to fix it where I can get a desktop background, and desktop icons, but no panel.
[02:34] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: that's when trying to use optirun
[02:34] <hitsujiTMO> CrazyEddy: try this: echo "0/SyncToVBlank=0" >> ~/.nvidia-settings-rc
[02:34] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: echo "0/SyncToVBlank=0" >> ~/.nvidia-settings-rc
[02:34] <hitsujiTMO> then run optirun glxgears
[02:34] <exco> known problems with unity and nvidia nv43?
[02:34] <exco> still no deal logging in, Dr_Willis
[02:35] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: 60 fps
[02:36] <wiak> Oct 28 03:29:59 nwgat smbd[1898]: process_usershare_file: stat of /var/lib/samba/usershares/h failed. No such file or directory
[02:36] <wiak> is driving me nuts
[02:36] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: I've got teamviewer, if you want, I can let you in :)
[02:36] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: is that the same for both runs?
[02:36] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: yes, but before, with the other commando for disabling vsync got like 3k
[02:36] <sordidbass> windows free for 90 days :)
[02:37] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: it's probable running so. install dota 2 and run that to test for sure :P
[02:37] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | sordidbass
[02:37] <xrandr> anyone?
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> exco: thats pretty old, and is at the edge of support in linux afaik. not going to have a smooth experience in unity
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> exco:  even with a differnt desktop?
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> xrandr, This cinnamon from the ubuntu repos or a ppa?
[02:39] <xrandr> from the repos
[02:39] <exco> only had unity
[02:39] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: hahaha that's funny, the thing is that sometimes I get weird video behaviour. like when you have multiple windows open of the same program ex: nautilus and then you click twice on the icon on the launcher bar.. and you can see all the windows open.. there I see some withe lines around the windows and I just see the last opened windows, the other ones if you put the mouse in, you can see the orange border but nothing on those boxes
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> exco:  sudo apt-get install jwm, and see if jwm works. ;) its like a huge 300k download.
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> !info jwm
[02:40] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: actually can you try nvidia-settings from the command line and see if a settings dialog opens
[02:40] <xrandr> wilee-nilee: from the repos, not ppa
[02:40] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: try optirun nvidia-settings
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> xrandr, Not sure I have not used it.
[02:43] <xrandr> anyone else?
[02:45] <exco> jwm starts but reverts to login also quickly, Dr_Willis
[02:46] <hitsujiTMO> exco: may be faster to do a fresh backup and fresh install than to fix the problem to be honest
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> xrandr, appears to be various issues in general. http://askubuntu.com/questions/361392/does-cinnamon-2-0-really-break-your-13-10-desktop
[02:47] <exco> hmm .. may be ... but now I know it's nvidia related
[02:47] <zerodivided>  Hi I just installed cgminer on Ubuntu 13.10 using apt-get. I have an AMD video card. I now get this error when trying to launch an application. "Xlib: extension "NV-GLX" missing on display ":0"
[02:50] <zerodivided> So did the package break something. I've removed it and I still get the error
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> exco:  that is very very weird.
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> exco: id go old school. make a .xsession file that has 2 lines..    xterm &      and then     exec jwm
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> exco:  then stop the lightdm service and try 'startx' and see if you get a simple jwm + xterm desktop
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> if that also crashes back to the console. you should see some error messages
[02:55] <guest668779698>  Hello
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Jellos
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> well...
[03:00] <odium> with renice -20 is the highest priority right
[03:00] <jon1233> is there a help channel
[03:00] <ShayGuy> All my Chrome data is missing after the 13.10 upgrade.
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  this is the ubuntu support channel
[03:01] <jon1233> ty
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> ShayGuy:  what data do you mean
[03:01] <jon1233> How do I install VLC or video codecs on a ubuntu 13.10 new install that has no internet access
[03:01] <jon1233> i can download here and transfer files via USB
[03:01] <Ari-Yang> jon1233: download the .deb files
[03:01] <jon1233> i did
[03:02] <jon1233> but it said dependency error
[03:02] <jon1233> Also the official site doesnt have VLC .deb anymore
[03:02] <Ari-Yang> did you make sure to d/l all deps?
[03:02] <jon1233> http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/video/
[03:02] <jon1233> There is no VLC download there
[03:02] <Ari-Yang> use a ppa https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily
[03:02] <Ari-Yang> !14.04
[03:03] <ShayGuy> Dr_Willis: Bookmarks, history, extensions, everything. I don't know if it's in the wrong directory or what, but Chrome's acting like it's the first time I've ever used it.
[03:03] <jon1233> How do I download that Ari-Yang
[03:03] <ShayGuy> Dr_Willis: I posted on Ask Ubuntu about it this morning, but haven't gotten a response.
[03:04] <Ari-Yang> jon1233: download the .deb of the package, is fairly simple and the answer is right there in front of you on that page; I'm sure you can figure it out
[03:04] <Ari-Yang> afk
[03:04] <jon1233> I can't find the download link
[03:05] <jon1233> I am on that page but no download links?
[03:06] <jon1233> how do I download the file at https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> ShayGuy:  search through your home dir for the config dirs and cache. the package manager tools rarely if ever (i cant think of a single example)  touch files in the users /home/whatever directories.
[03:07] <ironcamel> i'm trying to run gnome classic, but it is not showing up in my sessions list on the login screen. do i need to install a certain package to get it?
[03:07] <hitsujiTMO> jon1233: click on package details, then choose your architecture then you can download the debs
[03:08] <jon1233> I am on windows
[03:08] <jon1233> I cannot use those terminal commands
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> ironcamel:  yes. depends on what ubuntu verion you are running
[03:08] <jon1233> Windows computer has internet, ubuntu computer no internet
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> !classic | ironcamel
[03:08] <jon1233> usb to connect
[03:08] <ironcamel> Dr_Willis: i am using ubuntu 13.10
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> ironcamel:  gnome-shell has its own classic-gnome-2 look. Im not sure if the other classic modes exist in 13.10
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> ironcamel:  i have it. but i think i innstalled the 'ubuntu-gnome-desktop' package
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> thats going to install all of gnome-shell
[03:09] <ShayGuy> Dr_Willis: How specifically should I be searching? There are dozens of directories named "config" or "cache" in /home/myname.
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> ShayGuy:  .config is first place to look.
[03:10]  * ironcamel is installing ubuntu-gnome-desktop ...
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> ShayGuy:  i got a .config/google-chrome and  .config/chromium  here
[03:11] <maxxx> hi
[03:11] <jon1233> :(
[03:11] <philwdsa> hi
[03:11] <maxxx> how i can install libgmp3c2 on ubuntu 13.04 amd64
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> !find libgmp3c2
[03:11] <philwdsa> is there a way to set video thumbnail previews?
[03:11] <ironcamel> the main thing i don't like about gnome is the alt tab behavior, it kills my workflow, thats why i want to try gnome classic ... just upgraded to gnome 13.10 and it broke my cinnamon
[03:11] <philwdsa> for avi's and mpegs?
[03:11] <jon1233> How do I install VLC package from https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily onto my windows machine, then move it to Ubuntu machine (no internet) via USB?
[03:12] <ShayGuy> Dr_Willis: All right. I've got a /home/myname/.config/google-chrome and a /home/myname/.config/google-chrome-beta, along with .config/chromium.
[03:12] <philwdsa> I only see them for images
[03:12] <maxxx> for zimbra
[03:12] <maxxx> how
[03:12] <maxxx> i can add
[03:12] <maxxx> in saucy ?
[03:12] <ironcamel> ubuntu-gnome-desktop is installing the entire internet it seems like
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> philwdsa:  Hmm. I see them for videos. i think theres some max file size config to let nautilus make them.
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> ironcamel:  alt-tab in unity uses compiz. and has a lot of settings you can tweak
[03:13] <ShayGuy> Dr_Willis: And .config/google-chrome is more than four times the size of the larger of the other two. I think we're on the right track.
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> ironcamel:  not sure about gnome-shell or the classic mode
[03:13] <philwdsa> Dr_Willis: where can this be adjusted?
[03:13] <jon1233> How do I install VLC package from https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily onto my windows machine, then move it to Ubuntu machine (no internet) via USB?
[03:13] <philwdsa> not sure if its the problem because I have penty of small video files
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> philwdsa:  I see them for videos by default for local videos. I not for ones over the network shares.
[03:13] <msdw> jon1233: why dont you download the code for the vlc and compile it on the linux machine
[03:13] <jon1233> i dont know how
[03:14] <jon1233> someone told me to go to https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily and download
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> philwdsa:  i notice i DONT see them for .webm videos
[03:14] <philwdsa> but for avi you do?
[03:14] <odium> Why would playback of a bluray in vlc be effected  by using makemkv to copy and decrypt an unrelated bluray iso?
[03:14] <msdw> when you download the code it comes with install instructions
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  you will need to also download ALL the dependencies.. that can be a lot of differnt packages
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> jon1233: most likely the .deb package by itself wont install. it will want other dependencies also
[03:15] <jon1233> :(
[03:15] <philwdsa> Dr_Willis: also I will add, I am trying to view the thumbnails on a external hd
[03:15] <jon1233> How do I just make it work
[03:15] <msdw> usuali you use comands like ./configure, make, make install
[03:15] <philwdsa> but not sure why that would make a difference
[03:15] <jon1233> Is there no easy way to do this?
[03:15] <BlackWeb> Just curious I have a HP Laserjet that I have Connected to my machine, Which if my PC has been running for a long period of time it seems like the Printer doesnt communicate with the PC, To where I have to Unplug & Replug the printer back-in  in order to print to, Which I've tried doing service cups restart to have it re-spool the printer but it doesnt work, Is there another command I can use, Which seems like I did it before?
[03:15] <jon1233> in windows I just download vlc.exe and put on USB and done
[03:15] <jon1233> ubuntu = ???
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> philwdsa:  external usb hd with videos i get thumbnails here
[03:15] <ShayGuy> Dr_Willis: The launcher icon says "Google Chrome (beta)," too -- probably significant. Can I check what process it links to?
[03:15] <philwdsa> Dr_Willis: hmm... strange
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  you should connect to the internet and download it with the package manager
[03:15] <msdw> jon1233:you can do the deb installation but just download the deendencies
[03:16] <jon1233> I cant no internet adapter on that computer
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  thats how ubuntu is designed to work.
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> run a cable
[03:16] <jon1233> no internet adapter
[03:16] <jon1233> not even place to plug in cable
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> otherwise you are going to spend i imagine several hours at this
[03:16] <jon1233> so much for ease of use
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> its designed for mondern people who do have internet.
[03:16] <jon1233> windows works fine without internet
[03:17] <jon1233> Is there no big file I can download that contains all the dependencies?
[03:17] <msdw> jon1233:hey do you have a smart phone, u can use tether to share the internet
[03:17] <jon1233> One big file that has it all and can auto-install?
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> jon1233: not that i have EVER seen.
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu has a built in video player..
[03:18] <shan> hey i'm having some trouble with editing my partitions, I have gparted installed and useable as a LiveUSB app, when i boot it, it puts me in  a debian desktop where i can use gparted... but i need help, here are my partitions: http://i.imgur.com/qResR5Y.png
[03:18] <msdw> jon1233: only conected to the internet you can do the apt-get install vlc
[03:18] <jon1233> I dont have a smartphone
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  or find some ubuntu system that does have networking and use the apt-on-cd tool
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> or even a ubuntu live-usb
[03:18] <jon1233> Is there a way to get the restricted codecs installed?
[03:18] <jon1233> I dont need VLC so much as codecs
[03:18] <jon1233> just any video player that can play most video files
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> codecs might be a single package
[03:19] <jon1233> I downloaded them from that packages.ubuntu.com place
[03:19] <jon1233> restricted-codecs-59.tar.gz
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> download everything that looks like you may need the .deb not the tar.gz
[03:19] <jon1233> but it wouldn't load in the software thing in ubuntu
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> .tar.gz would be source code
[03:19] <Ari-Yang> jon1233: download the .deb and make sure you have the required dependencies of vlc https://wiki.videolan.org/Contrib_Status/
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> in most cases
[03:19] <Ari-Yang> jon1233: or you can configure https://wiki.videolan.org/Configure/
[03:20] <Ari-Yang> as in compile from source
[03:20] <Ari-Yang> good luck
[03:20] <msdw> jon1233: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> vlc last i looked - pulled in quite a few dependencies on a normal install of ubuntu
[03:20] <jon1233> There are 20+
[03:20] <jon1233> i have vlc.deb
[03:20] <jon1233> but it needed dependencies
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> yep ;)
[03:21] <jon1233> is deb file like exe?
[03:21] <FoShizz> Hello!
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> a .deb is the package you install
[03:21] <jon1233> so like .msi
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> its NOT an executable..
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> its like an .apk on android. :)
[03:22] <xrandr> I got cinnamon to work
[03:22] <FoShizz> What would happen if I typed rm -rf /* on a livecd? Does it wipe the livecd permanently? Or does it wipe the entire computer as well?
[03:22] <xrandr> the only way to make it work is via the ppa, not the repos
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> FoShizz:  hope you dont have any hard drives mounted to /media/
[03:22] <FoShizz> If there are harddrives, they all get wiped?
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> FoShizz:  and ithink rm -rf/ has a failsafe these days - you need extra optins to do it
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> FoShizz:  if they are MOUNTED
[03:23] <FoShizz> Is there a quick way to unmount all harddrives?
[03:23] <mojtaba> Hi,
[03:23] <jon1233> Is there anyway to install restricted-extras via this http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/u/ubuntu-restricted-extras/
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> FoShizz:  not that ive noticed.. theres differnt ways they can get mounted.. and if they are in use. you might need to force them to unmount
[03:24] <jon1233> Files look too small
[03:24] <FoShizz> dang
[03:24] <mojtaba> I am using 13.10 and the clock is just disappeared from the top right of the desktop. Does anybody know what should I do?
[03:24] <FoShizz> What's a good way to mess with someone who uses a livecd?
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu-restricted-extras is JUST a meta-package jon1233  its job is to pull in the other packages in an easy way
[03:24] <FoShizz> Without damaging the acutal hdd?
[03:25] <jon1233> Are the original files available for download that can be transferred on usb?
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  the dependencies for that package are also .debs yopu can download and install. thats how the apt system works
[03:25] <jon1233> have to transfer on usb after
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> foo pulls in bar and fii... you could install bar and fii seperately
[03:25] <mojtaba> I am using 13.10 and the clock is just disappeared from the top right of the desktop. Does anybody know what should I do? I searched clock in unity, but it is greyed out.
[03:27] <jon1233> Is there a website that has the restricted-extras .deb files for 13.10 for download alone?
[03:27] <Polymorph> Hello
[03:28] <Polymorph> I need some help please
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  the ubuntu-restricted-extas is a 'meta pacakge' it has no real content. it just 'depends' on the OTHER .deb packages
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  so install ing it  - forces the system to get the other packages. and saves typeing. ;)
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  ubuntu-desktop works the same way
[03:28] <jon1233> Can I get those "other packages" from somewhere?
[03:28] <jon1233> And put them on USB and transfer
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  yes.. same place you get all the otehr .debs
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> however you are finding them
[03:28] <ShayGuy> Dr_Willis: Sorry to interrupt -- DOES my launcher link to the wrong process?
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> ShayGuy:  what launcher?
[03:29] <ShayGuy> Dr_Willis: On the left side of the screen.
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> ShayGuy:  launch it and try the about menu item and see perhaps? or use ps ax to see whats running
[03:30] <Polymorph> I cannot login to Ubuntu forums today - yesterday was OK - firefox hangs at the address "https://login.ubuntu.com/j7l6Bkxx9zdlwRXq/+decide"
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> or look at its .desktop file to see what its launching for that launcher
[03:31] <Polymorph> anyone??
[03:31] <jon1233> when i try that link polymorph it loads
[03:32] <jon1233> Lost something? There's no page with this address in the Ubuntu One service. Check that you entered the address correctly and try again.
[03:32] <ShayGuy> Dr_Willis: Well, I'm running Chrome now. I'm using webchat.
[03:32] <Polymorph> I was in the login page and clicked "log in" - the address I have posted was cut from the address bar
[03:33] <FoShizz> What's a good way to mess with someone running a livecd?
[03:33] <ShayGuy> Dr_Willis: I looked in /usr/share/applications and found the desktop configuration file. The command was "/usr/bin/google-chrome-beta %U".
[03:34] <jon1233> fuqqq
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> ShayGuy:  looks like its running the beta to me. :)
[03:35] <FoShizz> If I delete /etc, will I cripple a computer?
[03:35] <ShayGuy> Dr_Willis: Would the upgrade have somehow changed the command? Do I just try and change it back now?
[03:35] <Polymorph> Its OK - I have logged in from Chrome -wierd!!'
[03:35] <Polymorph> thanks ppl
[03:35] <Polymorph> bye
[03:36] <msdw> FoShizz: the /etc file has the config of the ubunut
[03:36] <ShayGuy> Dr_Willis: Not even sure exactly what the command's SUPPOSED to be...  Does anybody know what should I do? I searched clock in unity, but it is greyed out.
[03:38] <mojtaba> !language |jon1233
[03:39] <FoShizz> msdw if i rm a livecd will it be permanent?
[03:39] <jon1233> Anyone know where VLC is at packages.ubuntu.com
[03:39] <jon1233> I can't find it in the videos list
[03:39] <msdw> no
[03:39] <jon1233> http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/video/
[03:39] <jon1233> no vlc
[03:39] <FoShizz> so even if i rm -rf /* the entire filesystem, it will still boot?
[03:40] <FoShizz> from the livecd that is
[03:40] <msdw> its a live cd that can be changed any changes you make when you reboot it will be the same
[03:40] <FoShizz> oh so you can store data on a livecd?
[03:41] <msdw> yes, but make sure that you dont have a mounted partition
[03:41] <FoShizz> wait idgi
[03:41] <msdw> on the cd no, on a usb yes
[03:41] <FoShizz> ok
[03:42] <FoShizz> yea cuz i thought files livecd's restart everytime while usbs can be permanent
[03:42] <msdw> yes
[03:42] <we6jbo> Hi
[03:42] <FoShizz> so basically, no matter how screwed up you get a livecd, it will still be fine and dandy
[03:42] <we6jbo> I have a question
[03:42] <msdw> yes
[03:42] <FoShizz> thats awesome
[03:42] <FoShizz> thanks!
[03:42] <l_r> hello
[03:43] <msdw> but if your going to do any thing do it on a vm safer
[03:43] <l_r> can you tell me what is the comiler g++ version in ubuntu 13.10?
[03:43] <anudas> heloo
[03:44] <anudas> compiler is for compiling :-)
[03:44] <msdw> l_r: put <application> -v
[03:44] <l_r> msdw, i don't have it installed
[03:45] <msdw> just install it
[03:45] <jmgk> hello anudas
[03:45] <jmgk> Welcome
[03:45] <l_r> msdw, i don't have 13.10 installed
[03:45] <jon1233> last thing I need help with: anyone know where the VLC package is @ packages.ubuntu.com? I can't see it at http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/video/
[03:45] <msdw> unles that you want a version that you can download and compile
[03:46] <SPEEDWAVE> hi
[03:46] <l_r> msdw, no i just need to know which version of g++ comes with ubuntu 13.10, as i don't have 13.10 installed to check
[03:46] <anudas> hi jmgk
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> FoShizz:  i run live cds on systems with no hard drives.
[03:48] <jmgk> anudas:  Hey
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> !find g++
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> $ g++ --version
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> g++ (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.8.1-10ubuntu8) 4.8.1
[03:49] <l_r> thx
[03:49] <jon1233> Is it possible for me to use apt-get vlc, then somehow collect those downloaded files and put them on USB to another ubuntu machine?
[03:49] <jmgk> anudas:  how is Ubuntu?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  thats what 'apt-on-cd' does
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> lets you make a moveable repository
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> !aptoncd
[03:49] <jon1233> mmmmmmmmmm
[03:49] <jon1233> nice
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> cd/dvd or usb ;)
[03:50] <anudas> jmgk fine
[03:50] <ShayGuy> Dr_Willis: I gather I'm supposed to edit the launcher, but I don't know what the command is supposed to be.
[03:50] <jmgk> good good
[03:50] <jon1233> is there
[03:50] <jon1233> !aptonusb
[03:50] <jmgk> anudas:  on a laptop or desktop
[03:50] <jmgk> ?
[03:50] <xmetal> i usually just backup the DEB files themeselves, though APTtoCD is a good app
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> ShayGuy:  i dont know eitehr. i dont know what you are doing.  there MIGHT be a .desktop launcher for the non beta one. i imagine the command will be the same only without the beta :)
[03:50] <xmetal> themselves*
[03:51] <anudas> desktop
[03:51] <jon1233> how do I get the "show desktop" button on 13.10
[03:51] <jmgk> ah
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  i recall theres some check box in one of the settings tools to enable it.
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> I never need it. ;) my desktop is blank
[03:52] <anudas> and you?
[03:53] <jon1233> hmm
[03:53] <jon1233> the ubuntu machine i have connected to internet is 10.04 LTS
[03:53] <jon1233> will apt-get VLC for the CD repository still work?
[03:53] <jon1233> to transfer to 13.10 cpu?
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  thats going to make things a lot harder.
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> and no it wont work
[03:55] <jon1233> ;(
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> 10.X stuff is 3 years older then whats in 13.x
[03:55] <we6jbo> I have a computer with a mac address of b8:ca:3a:b2:a8:6c and the ip is <IP_ADDRESS>. Is there a way to wake it up if I'm on a different connection and the computer is asleep or off?
[03:55] <jon1233> can i use the 13.10 cd to boot off of
[03:55] <msdw> jon1233: the best way would be to compile it
[03:55] <jon1233> msdw how do i do that?
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> boot the 13.10 cd on the pc with the networking.. intall vlc.. see wht it downlaods
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> copy styff to flash.. move it over
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> compile it? thats not the best way. he would have to download ALL the dev pcakges and stuff
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> then hope he can compile it
[03:56] <jmgk> hi Dr_Willis
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:   a live usb with a persistant save file. with 13.10 - you could then install vlc on it.. and get the debs it used
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> is another way. (or use it to make an apt-on-usb setup)
[03:57] <jon1233> !apt-on-usb
[03:58] <jon1233> why cant ubuntu just have one file that installs it
[03:58] <jon1233> like windows has .exe
[03:58] <jon1233> can put exe on usb
[03:58] <anudas> jmgk
[03:58] <ShayGuy> Dr_Willis: OK, I'm going to try removing the -beta from the launcher. Wish me luck.
[03:59] <unicornjedi> Hi does anyone know how to use rosegarden?
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  youve aparently never had to go hunting for various dll's and other things to get a windows 'exe' working
[04:01] <jon1233> i havent dr willis
[04:01] <jon1233> it just works :/
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  and you havent noticed how a trivial app in a windows exe installer will be severl DOZEN mb in size.. due to it having tohave all the extra stuff included every time
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  no it does not..
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[04:01] <Guest14124> I need help. I have 13.04 installed and I can't get the flash player work with chromium or firefox
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> and when it breaks its 100x more a bear to fix
[04:01] <jon1233> if i had windows without internet id just put vlc.exe on a usb stick and it'd work
[04:02] <Guest14124> Everything else works. I'm on a 32 bit system
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  and HOPE the devs included all the libs in the .exe.. which can happen.
[04:02] <SchrodingersScat> jon1233: what about exe that are only launchers for the download?
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  or the .exe would be 300mb in size..
[04:02]  * Dr_Willis is reminded of  a mouse driver.exe that was 400mb in size...
[04:02] <jon1233> it always just works for me
[04:02] <unicornjedi> does anyone know a great midi sequencer for ubuntu?
[04:03] <Guest14124> I tried extracting the tar.gz and copying it manually and it didn't work
[04:03] <jon1233> printer driver, 1500 mb
[04:03] <Guest14124> that usually works for me if nothing else does
[04:03] <l_r> naa
[04:03] <l_r> i cant believe
[04:03] <Guest14124> Can anyone see my messages ?
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> Guest14124:  yes..
[04:03] <jon1233> I can almost make VLC work here
[04:03] <jon1233> I just need to find the VLC package at http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/video/
[04:03] <jon1233> but its not there
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> !info vlc
[04:03] <yaakov|eos> I have an issue with installing and removing packages on my system.
[04:03] <yaakov|eos> Can anyone help me?
[04:03] <yaakov|eos> Or would anyone mind helping me out?
[04:04] <Guest14124> If I remember there is an address you type in google to get to the plugins
[04:04] <Guest14124> not just extensions
[04:04] <loklaan__> could anyone recommend a channel to ask about problems with c++? the usage of OpenMP in particular if it helps
[04:04] <xmetal> thats why i like dependencies (in ubuntu-like distros) ... some of the dep's can be the same for many apps ... the "trivial" program itself can be a small download since you do not have to redownload what you already have
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> that site has a search feature
[04:04] <xmetal> wow @ room scrolling too fast
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=vlc&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/vlc
[04:05] <jon1233> got it thx
[04:05] <jon1233> so if i download every file at http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/vlc
[04:05] <jon1233> it will work?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> try it and see. thats the ultimate test. I dont do it that way.
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> those other packages MIGHT have other dependencies.
[04:06] <yaakov|eos> http://pastebin.com/u3iGLfvv
[04:06] <SPEEDWAVE> i bein to love steam......
[04:06] <jon1233> i wish there was a .rar that had all those dependencies
[04:06] <yaakov|eos> So I get this error whenever I try to upgrade or remove a package.
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> I finally got steam working again
[04:06] <yaakov|eos> I have no idea what to do, and I've googled for quite a while!
[04:06] <Anonynimity> Hi. Every time I go to login on lightdm, it goes to a console for about half a second then goes back to the login screen. could anyone help me fix this, please?
[04:06] <xmetal> honestly i like the package managers since it installs all the dep's i need for me ... other distros are pain sometimes
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> had to clean out my steam cache
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  yep. :)
[04:07] <xmetal> after awhile i forget what i was installing the dep's TO INSTALL in the first place
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  sort of the reason all the os's are going to software-market type setups
[04:07] <xmetal> lol
[04:07] <Guest14124> no help here :(
[04:07] <jon1233> uhh
[04:07] <jon1233> those dependencies for vlc have other dependencies?
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:   they can.
[04:07] <anudas> vlc is nicely running
[04:07] <jon1233>  that will make for hundreds of files to download
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> vlc is a GUI app.. so it would depend eventually down to what X needs.. and s forth
[04:08] <jon1233> !offline
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> jon1233:  you have a working X system/gui so you Do in fact has a lot of dependencies allready installed
[04:08] <xmetal> thats why in ubuntu-like (i dont use ubuntu) distros, i use the package manager and just backup the debs by hand
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> Now if you were on a server install....
[04:08] <anudas> apt-get synaptic
[04:08] <xmetal> all the dependencies (for that version of the OS) that i need
[04:08] <xmetal> !info synaptic
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> since ubuntu is not a rollign release. its easier to archive the .debs :) they dont get out of date as fast
[04:09] <woodong50> !info ubuntu
[04:10] <anudas> ubuntu software center
[04:10] <xmetal> apttocd is good though i just copy and paste debs to a "backup folder" i have and then "copy them" to other PC's running the same OS
[04:10] <xmetal> only issue i had is when i had (still do) PC's running Mint 14 and one with Mint 15 ... i made sure not to get the packages "mixed up"
[04:10] <xmetal> ubunu would be the same way
[04:11] <xmetal> ubuntu
[04:12] <Anonynimity> anyone?
[04:12] <ShayGuy> Dr_Willis: After some fiddling around in /usr/share/applications/... I've somehow replaced "google-chrome.desktop" with "Google Chrome.desktop" and "Google Chrome (beta).desktop". :(
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> ShayGuy:  why not just make a script or use the cli to run what ever it is yiu are wanting to run.
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> or make your own 2 seperate launchers in your home
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> one for google chome. one for google-chrome-beta
[04:13] <ShayGuy> I don't need two launchers!
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> ShayGuy:  why do you need 2 browsers then?
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> whats the point of having google chrome and chrome beta both installed?
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> I would expect there to be a launcher for each one
[04:13] <ShayGuy> I don't need two browsers either. I don't know why I have chrome-beta at all.
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> we dont know either.
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> but that seems to be the core of your issue
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> uninstall them both.. install the one you want to keep perhaps?
[04:14] <ShayGuy> That and my computer not believing me when I say I don't want the beta.
[04:15] <ShayGuy> Uninstalling seems like a little much.
[04:15] <moppy> cannot parse. doesnt want it installed, thinks uninstalling is over the top?
[04:16] <ShayGuy> moppy: Please don't get on my case.
[04:16] <moppy> it's hard for me to understand what you want, or what you are asking
[04:17] <moppy> i don't understand the problem
[04:17] <aiwas> hi guyz
[04:17] <xmetal> same here
[04:17] <ShayGuy> moppy: I think I've got two versions of Chrome, normal and beta. I don't know what beta's doing there. My launcher's pointing to it. It should be pointing to normal.
[04:18] <ShayGuy> moppy: And I can't figure out what's going on when I try to fix it. That sum it up?
[04:18] <moppy> uninstall the beta one?
[04:18] <xmetal> uninstall all packages related to Chrome/Chrome (beta) and reinstall Chrome (alot of times the new release is just labeled as "beta" on Windows)  from the package manager  ?
[04:18] <xmetal> could be misunderstanding the issue, but that is what i'd do
[04:19] <xiaopi[z]> any reasons you don't want to use chrome-beta ?
[04:19] <moppy> yea it breaks
[04:19] <xiaopi[z]> been running for a while never had any issues
[04:19] <ShayGuy> And normal Chrome has all my bookmarks, history, extensions, etc.
[04:19] <moppy> anyway you either uninsall it, or delete the launcher and pretend it's not there. former is safer
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> if you copied your chrome dataa dir to the beta data dir.. i bet beta woud have them all also....
[04:20] <xmetal> honestly i dont use either but i'd never use google chrome on any OS .. I'd stick with Chromium ... which is what chrome is based on anyway
[04:20] <moppy> well you can backup your bookmarks or sync them to google, to keep them safe
[04:20] <xiaopi[z]> uninstalling it is like 1command like and get your bookmarks/history/extensions from one to another is a simple copy/paste
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> of coruse i think google chrome also has some sort of sync function as well
[04:20]  * xmetal agrees with Dr_Willis
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> i got my phone/pc's all synced.. i rarely even hae to install extensions any more on new installs. :) it auto-magically does it
[04:21] <xiaopi[z]> and yeah if you have a google account, you sync them and are done with it
[04:21] <xmetal> i know Firefox has a good addon FEBE for backing up "everything" profile related and restoring them ... not sure if chrome has something similar
[04:21] <xmetal> chrome/chromium
[04:21] <moppy> i actually need google chrome on linux for the flash player becuase some people wont stop using flash :)
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> firefox can do it without an addon also.
[04:21] <moppy> xmetal, it's google, you can bet it saves everything you do :-)
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. i dont have to use google chrome for flash at the sites i visit.
[04:21] <xmetal> probably ... i like that addon since it saves to a local folder
[04:21] <xiaopi[z]> chromium is doing flash just fine by default
[04:22] <xmetal> so i can backup
[04:22] <xmetal> true moppy
[04:22] <moppy> Dr_Willis, i find performance better in chrome, and some multimedia heavy stuff like games break in firefox
[04:22] <ShayGuy> I don't know what's synced and what isn't. I'm pretty sure the data from my last session isn't synced, at least. And in any case, while I appreciate the feedback, I wasn't looking for advice on what browser to use.
[04:22] <xmetal> lol
[04:22] <ParkerR> So I have been searching for a way to disable "Natural Scrolling" in nautilus. I have checked Preferences and also looked through all the dconf values. Everything that I Google brings up results of people wanting natural scrolling enabled for nautilus. Any ideas?
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> we all know opera is thebest anyway ;)
[04:22] <ParkerR> Ubuntu 13.04
[04:22] <xmetal> i never had (even when i was on high speed) Chrome do good on either of my laptops
[04:22] <xiaopi[z]> is are last version of opera?
[04:22] <xmetal> (i am going to say Chrome, but i mean Chrome-like browsers)
[04:22] <xiaopi[z]> how*
[04:23] <xmetal> Opera = under-rated browser IMHO
[04:23] <xmetal> i like Firefox, but Opera is not bad
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> i tend to just use firefox these days. but do have all the main browsers installed.
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> but most of my websurfing is from a tablet ;)
[04:23] <moppy> 4od doesnt work either: it's a TV channel, they use some weird DRM in their flash that only google chrome seems to play
[04:23] <xmetal> i have alot of browsers installed to "test my site"
[04:23] <xiaopi[z]> firefox is just becoming a slow hog, and opera just got passed by chrome for so many things imo
[04:23] <xmetal> but for regular browsing i use FF
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> moppy:  omgubuntu or webupd8 had an artical today on getting 4od working
[04:24] <yaakov|eos> I can't install, upgrade, or remove any packages. Whenever I try, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/u3iGLfvv Help if you can.
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> moppy:  i dont even recall ever hearing of the site untill today
[04:24] <ShayGuy> Urgh...
[04:24] <moppy> Dr_Willis, cool, will check it. it's a UK TV channel
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> moppy:  some special HAL package is needed to get it workling it seems. same for amazon prime
[04:24] <moppy> what?HAL was depreciated how many years ago?
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> moppy:  tell it to the flash demanding sites
[04:25] <ShayGuy> OK, I've got Synaptic open, and there are packages called google-chrome-stable, google-chrome-beta, and google-chrome-unstable.
[04:25] <ParkerR> Its still used in some DRM cases for some odd reason
[04:25] <msdw> anyone knows about a security channel
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> ShayGuy:  i recall having to delete my ~/.macromedia/ after installing that pacched hal package also to get amazon prime working
[04:25] <moppy> ShayGuy, wait the first thing you will do is backup EVERYTHING iny our browser. bookmarks, plugins etc
[04:25] <ShayGuy> I seriously hope removing one of these won't erase my Chrome data.
[04:26] <ShayGuy> But, backup, yeah?
[04:26] <ParkerR> ShayGuy, They wont
[04:26] <ParkerR> The data is in ~/.config/
[04:26]  * xmetal agrees with moppy
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt... backup
[04:27] <moppy> i think ParkerR is probably right but better safe than sorry
[04:27] <xmetal> hmm (i dont know) but in Linux is it in the home directory?
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> package manger tools should not be touching tuff in your user/home/whatver  we mentined this earlier
[04:27] <ShayGuy> I can't fathom what motivates you all to put up with people like me.
[04:27] <xmetal> its a good idea to backup anyway .. "just in case"
[04:27] <mukti_> If I had a server, and its sole purpose was to act as a file server that had directories that could be mounted on other systems, what would that be called? An NFS server?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> mukti_:  network atatched storage. :) perhaps
[04:28] <moppy> sometimes you find the backed up data is keyed to some unique id that's lost on reinstall. a friend of mine had that happen
[04:28] <xmetal> :) as long as you dont say "I am going with Windows 8", we have no problem helping
[04:28] <xmetal> :P
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> mukti_:  it culd be running ssh, or samba not nfs.
[04:28] <msdw> mukti: yes it is
[04:29] <moppy> outlook express on windows did that a lot. once you reinstalled windows, it wouldnt open your backup
[04:29] <moppy> because different user id
[04:29] <sam113101> is /home/myuser/bin supposed to be in my path by default?
[04:29] <mukti_> Nice, thanks. I have Samba servers, but I only use Samba so I can access files on my Windows boxes. I'm just trying to implement shared storage on a few servers now. Thanks!
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  if it exists when you login, the bash init scripts add it to your path
[04:31] <ShayGuy> OK, I've copied ~/.config/google-chrome to another directory.
[04:34] <ParkerR> Every result is either "How to enable natural scrolling in Ubuntu" or a bug report about nautilus not natural scrolling. https://www.google.com/#q=nautilus+13.04+disable+natural+scrolling I can't be the only one who doesn't like the reversed scrolling
[04:35] <ShayGuy> Wish me luck, all.
[04:39] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: can't find it
[04:40] <sam113101> maybe in the global script (where is it?)?
[04:41] <amyfunk> this is the noob room right?
[04:41] <amyfunk> i have an annoying question that i can't find anywhere on google
[04:41] <thiebaude> amyfunk, ubuntu support
[04:42] <thiebaude> amyfunk, ask your question, maybe someone can help
[04:42] <xmetal> !details
[04:42] <amyfunk> i'm trying to edit my xorg.conf for my trackpad, but no matter what i change the values to it doesn't change my trackpad settings
[04:43] <amyfunk> oh thanks!  I'm running 12.04 LTS and my computer is a hp g62
[04:43] <xmetal> that file read only or you dont have persmissions to SAVE the changes you made
[04:43] <xmetal> (thats what it sounds like to me)
[04:43] <xmetal> you can edit the settings, but its not saving
[04:43] <thiebaude> amyfunk, did you save it?
[04:43] <amyfunk> I was able to change the file it'self using sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:43] <amyfunk> yes I could save it
[04:43] <thiebaude> ok
[04:44] <amyfunk> basically i'm trying to add three finger swipe, but now i'm trying to just enable/disable horizontal scroll to see if the file is even working now
[04:46] <amyfunk> currently my xorg.conf file has
[04:46] <amyfunk> Section "InputClass"
[04:46] <amyfunk> Identifier "Synaptics TouchPad"
[04:46] <amyfunk> Driver "synaptics"
[04:46] <amyfunk> MatchIsTouchpad "on"
[04:46] <amyfunk> Option "HorizHysteresis" "72"
[04:46] <FloodBot1> amyfunk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:46] <thiebaude> amyfunk, did you go into system settings- Mouse and touchpad?
[04:47] <amyfunk> Oh, sorry.  What do you mean by flood?  and yes thiebaude, I went into settings and enabled two finger scroll
[04:48] <thiebaude> amyfunk, have you trued ubuntu tweak?
[04:48] <thiebaude> tried
[04:49] <santosh> I need help with Hindi bolnagri layout. Anybody to help me?
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  your ~/.bashrc or .profile have a check to add the path
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> grep bin .profile
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
[04:49] <amyfunk> thiebaude, I have ubuntu tweak installed. I was never able to find any help with that program
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> amyfunk:  you are restarting the X server after altering that file? ;)
[04:50] <thiebaude> amyfunk, i thought i had seen someting in there about mosetrack, but was mistaken :)
[04:50] <thiebaude> mousetrack
[04:50] <amyfunk> Dr_willis, ah no i am not how does one do that?
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> amyfunk:  that explains why your changes dont seem to be doing anything. ;()
[04:50] <xmetal> ah not "applying" the changes
[04:51]  * xmetal nods
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> sudo service lightdm restart   from a console.. is one way
[04:51]  * thiebaude yep
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> the idea that config files get read on app startup... seems..  confuseing i guess. ;)
[04:51] <ShayGuy> Pass the Lord and praise the ammunition. IT WORKED.
[04:51]  * santosh needs help with hindi bolnagri keyboard layout
[04:51] <ShayGuy> Thank you all so much. T_T
[04:51] <jmgk> hah
[04:52]  * Dr_Willis goes back to playing left4dead2
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[04:52]  * thiebaude openarena :)
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> but i never played the first one.... oh noes.. i wont understand the plot!
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[04:52] <thiebaude> haha
[04:53] <ShayGuy> Just wanted to tell you all that. Time I got myself to bed.
[04:53] <ShayGuy> For those of you in the appropriate time zones, good night.
[04:53] <sud0-t3ch> Night
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. no sound  since ive moved this pc to anothe location.. cant hear the zombies go splat..
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> Cant have that now!
[04:54] <cfhowlett> Dr_Willis, "splat"?  I thought zombies went "braaaaaaaaains!"
[04:54] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure they do.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. got sound in video playback. but not the l4dead2 game
[04:56]  * xmetal lets that go
[04:56] <xmetal> :)
[04:59] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: I don't have a bash_profile, and bashrc doesn't seem to do that
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  its in .profile like i showed here
[05:00] <sam113101> http://pastie.org/8436244
[05:00] <sam113101> wat
[05:00] <sam113101> where
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> in my home directory.....                  .profile
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> willis@SSDBuntu:~$ grep bin .profile
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> i
[05:01] <sam113101> oh
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.No sound in left4dead.. wonder why..
[05:02] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: does zsh read it too?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> sam113101: no i idea. i dont use zsh.
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> put a big     echo 'this is .profile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' at the end.. and see if zsh print out the message
[05:03] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: what's lost+found?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> a place that recovere files go from fsck
[05:03] <sam113101> "go"?
[05:04] <sam113101> they all seem empty
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> goess nothing got lost.. so nothing was found
[05:06] <sam113101> it all makes sense man
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> if fsck finds a lost file.. it puts it in teh found directory
[05:06] <sam113101> thanks fsck for recreating those empty directories
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> instead of how windows renames it to file000001.chk
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[05:06] <Dispatch> I'm running ubuntu 13.10. I rebooted my machine to find out that upon attempting to login, the computer takes me to a black screen for about half a second, and right back to the lightdm login screen.
[05:07] <sam113101> brb
[05:07] <Dispatch> Can anyone please help me fix this? we are currently having to manually dispatch.
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> Dispatch:  does guest user work.. does a new user work.. does remove/renameing the users .Xauthority file fix the issue
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> !steam
[05:08] <Dispatch> I don't know I deleted the .Xauthority file but that was after logging in by CTRL + ALT + F1 - login - startx
[05:08] <Dispatch> I have disabled the guest account
[05:09] <Dispatch> I will try to see if I can login to guest
[05:09] <Dispatch> rebooting now
[05:12] <Dispatch> Dr_Willis I am unable to login to the guest session as well under the lightdm login manager
[05:12] <Dispatch> Dr_Willis I am unable to login to the guest session as well under the lightdm login manager
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Dispatch:  if a newly made user also works. that points to a problem with the problem users setting files.
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> often its their ~/.Xauthority file
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> if .Xauthity dosent fix it.. then it could be some other config file in the users home
[05:14] <Dispatch> okay. so if I use a CLI to do a rm -r .Xauthority will that possibly fix it?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> rename/remove the file and try logging in again.
[05:15] <Dispatch> one moment.
[05:16] <Dispatch> that did not work either Dr_Willis
[05:17] <Dispatch> going to try to reboot
[05:17] <xmetal> wish this silly spell checker would stop changing "hiatus" to "weaties"
[05:17] <xmetal> :|
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  at least its not replaceing it with dirty words....
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[05:18] <xmetal> lol
[05:18] <xmetal> that could be intesting in businesses .. .people run an auto-fix spell checker and dont proof-read
[05:18] <xmetal> :P
[05:21] <Dispatch> still no joy Dr_Willis
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> Dispatch:  you are useing the Unity desktop? a newly made user does or does not work?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo adduser testuser'  and see if testuser works
[05:22] <Dispatch> Unity Desktop -- doesn't work for the light-dm login
[05:23] <cppking> test
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> test 123
[05:23] <Dispatch> doesn't work Dr_Willis
[05:25] <Dispatch> Dr_Willis, do you have teamviewer?
[05:25] <Dispatch> if so, would you take a look for me?
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> if a newly made user does not work. that points to a driver isue with the unity desktop
[05:27] <Dispatch> great
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> a dirty work around - install a differnt desktop  like Lubuntu. that dosent use the 3d stuff
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop' and select lubuntu at the login screen/gear icon
[05:28] <Dispatch> ok.... um... what about reinstalling xorg?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> reinstalling stuff rarely 'fixs' things i find.  theres a reason its acting that way. could be a bug with the updated drivers, or kernel. or somthing. ive never seen a definitive reason.
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> what Is your video chipset?
[05:29] <Dispatch> I don't know
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> lspci command should show you
[05:29] <Dispatch> sudo lshw | more
[05:29] <Dispatch> oops
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> lspci | grep VGA
[05:31] <Dispatch> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Coror Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[05:31] <Dispatch> it was working fine before my upgrade
[05:31] <Gallomimia> steam and reboots :(
[05:31] <Dispatch> I'll be right back Dr_Willis
[05:32] <Dispatch> -bash: export `/etc/profile` not a valid identifier
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> and what says that?
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> sounds like ther may be some very deep problems going on
[05:33] <Dispatch> the cli Dr_Willis
[05:33] <Dispatch> upon login
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> that is weird. so you cant even login at teh console?
[05:34] <Dispatch> I can login at the console
[05:34] <Dispatch> but I get that message when I do
[05:34] <Dispatch> I'll be back in a few minutes
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> heres mine
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> pastebinit /etc/profile
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6316506/
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> to compare
[05:41] <Dispatch> Dr_Willis would you take a look for me, please?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> look at what? i really dont have any more ideas.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> install a differnt desktop and see if that works.. would be the next thing i would try. If that also fails. theres somthing seriously wrong
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install jwm, thats the most basic window manager in the repos.  and select it at the lightdm login screen. see if that one works.
[05:43] <Dispatch> I did try a different desktop but lightdm didn't like it
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> the lightdm login screen works. that shows that X is working.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> what desktop did you try?
[05:44] <Dispatch> gnome, lxde, xfce, ubuntu, gnome classic (no effects),
[05:44] <Dispatch> it just goes into a login loop
[05:44] <Dispatch> (lightdm)
[05:45] <SPEEDWAVE> guys can i still partition by hard drive while in ubuntu 12.04 using gparted?
[05:46] <anudas> qparted working
[05:47] <aeon-ltd> SPEEDWAVE: you should be able to manipulate all areas but the partition you are booted to (can't unmount it)
[05:47] <aeon-ltd> SPEEDWAVE: for safety reasons using livecd is the most ideal though
[05:48] <SPEEDWAVE> aeon-ltd, is there any other way to partition it i already installed ubuntu 12.04, i just forgot to partition it...
[05:48] <Dispatch> xubuntu was removed @ Dr_Willis....
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Dispatch:  and the same happens for a newly made user also correct?
[05:48] <Dispatch> ??
[05:49] <Dispatch> that's correct Dr_Willis
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> does your /etc/profile   file look normal? can you read it?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> that message you posted eralier - may be a sign of some config issue
[05:50] <aeon-ltd> SPEEDWAVE: if you already installed it, then you have the livecd you used
[05:51] <Dispatch> ok... sec
[05:51] <Dispatch> I think I see the problem....
[05:51] <Dispatch> maybe...
[05:52] <SPEEDWAVE> aeon-ltd, is that ok to partition my hd, hope nothing will happen i already installed all my apps and games
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> Dispatch | -bash: export `/etc/profile` not a valid identifier
[05:52] <Dispatch> export MSF_DATABASE_CONFIG=/opt/metasploit-framework/database.yaml ?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> look for any export lines that have a space in front of the =
[05:52] <aeon-ltd> SPEEDWAVE: explain in more detail what you want achieve
[05:52] <Dispatch> could that be what's causing it? second line from the bottom?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> that error could be comming from your .profile or .bashrc also
[05:53] <Dispatch> where is .bashrc located?
[05:53] <SPEEDWAVE> aeon-ltd, i want to partition my hd one is for ubuntu and the other one is for backup file
[05:53] <hispeed67> in user home dir
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> in your users home. same as allother .files
[05:53] <Dispatch> ok
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> export MSF_DATABASE_CONFIG=/opt/metasploit-framework/database.yaml      is a valid line. :)
[05:54] <hispeed67> installing 12.04 server/amd64. doesn't install X by default, or is there a selection  im missing?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> export MSF_DATABASE_CONFIG =/opt/metasploit-framework/database.yaml
[05:54] <Dr_Willis>  bash: export: `=/opt/metasploit-framework/database.yaml': not a valid identifier
[05:54] <SPEEDWAVE> aeon-ltd, but i already install ubuntu and i want to partition that for my storage file
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> the space in front of the =    is a common error it seems
[05:54] <Dispatch> okay
[05:55] <milamber> hispeed67: nope, if you want the standard desktop: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:55] <aeon-ltd> SPEEDWAVE: the current partitioning is?
[05:55] <Dispatch> everything seems fine
[05:55] <Dispatch> :'((((
[05:55] <dharmaturtle> Hi, on my AWS machine I have a package called "linux-image-3.2.0-31-virtual". Is it safe to uninstall?
[05:55] <hispeed67> milamber, after installation, didn't find/locate my wireless netcard. detects during installation though..
[05:55] <SPEEDWAVE> aeon-ltd, my hd is 150 gb
[05:55] <hispeed67> any thought?
[05:56] <aeon-ltd> SPEEDWAVE: but the current partitioning is?
[05:57] <SPEEDWAVE> aeon-ltd, sorry what that mean?
[05:57] <Dispatch> lightdm* lightdm-gtk-greeter lightdm-remote-session-freerdp* lightdm-remote-session-uccsconfigure* ubuntu-desktop* ubuntustudio-default-settings* ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme* xubuntu-default-settings* xubuntu-desktop
[05:57] <milamber> hispeed67: what card is it?
[05:57] <hispeed67> atheros
[05:58] <hispeed67> re-installing to sdb right now.. :)
[05:58] <aeon-ltd> SPEEDWAVE: how have you partitioned it, is it all just one partition?
[05:58] <hispeed67> currently precise is on /dev/sda3, also installing to /dev/sdb1 swap on sda4
[05:59] <hispeed67> sda1 and sda2 are ntfs
[05:59] <hispeed67> sda=200g, sdb=40g
[05:59] <SPEEDWAVE> aeon-ltd, yah, its all just one partition
[05:59] <Dispatch> Hellp
[06:00]  * Dispatch throws computer against wall and grabs a bat
[06:00] <SPEEDWAVE> aeon-ltd, i want to divided it in to two
[06:00] <hispeed67> dispatch, whats the question?
[06:00] <hispeed67> SPEEDWAVE: do you know what size partitions you want?
[06:00] <Dispatch> my lightdm is stuck in a login loop hispeed67
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Dispatch:  your export message - imples that theres some export line thats invalid in one of your startup scripts.
[06:00] <aeon-ltd> SPEEDWAVE: use a live cd, shrink it there then create the partitino you want
[06:00] <anudas> dispatch: whats going on?
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> that could be causing the users to fail to get a valid shell/starts I guess..
[06:00] <Dispatch> I know, that's why I purged them and re-installing them
[06:01] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, atleast 100 gb for my file
[06:01] <hispeed67> SPEEDWAVE: is there data on the drive you want to save?
[06:01] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, yah.. all my file doc,games etc..
[06:02] <hispeed67> SPEEDWAVE: how is the drive currently partitioned?
[06:02] <hispeed67> SPEEDWAVE: just all /dev/sda1?
[06:03] <hispeed67> milamber: any thoughts on the atheros wlan0 not showing up?
[06:03] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, it never partition before i want it to under ubuntu 12.04
[06:04] <hispeed67> so there is nothing on the drive right now???
[06:04] <hispeed67> you said it had your files/docs/games on it....
[06:04] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, my whole hd is 150gb
[06:04] <milamber> hispeed67: do you have wired connection now?
[06:04] <hispeed67> milamber: no, im on a different computer.
[06:05] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, yah all my files are in ubuntu system
[06:05] <hispeed67> SPEEDWAVE: ok, so you have a 150g single partition and want a / parttion and a /home partition, correct?
[06:05] <nut> -help
[06:05] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, and i want to partition it for my backup file for game,doc
[06:05] <hispeed67> milamber: that computer is currently re-installing...
[06:06] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, yap
[06:06] <hispeed67> SPEEDWAVE: so you want /, /home /backup?
[06:06] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, yah...
[06:07] <milamber> hispeed67: what atheros card is it?
[06:08] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, if i use gparted to partition my hd is there any problem on taht?
[06:09] <hispeed67> SPEEDWAVE: i think you want to do shrinking and creating of partition, but be careful when you do that if you aren't familiar with disk slicing
[06:09] <hispeed67> milamber: lemme check real quick
[06:10] <hispeed67> milamber: ar2414
[06:10] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, yah.. im amatuer with this is there any other way to do it easy?
[06:10] <anudas> speedwave: there are no problems
[06:11] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, is there any article to read about partitioning in ubuntu pdf books?
[06:13] <hispeed67> dozens of web pages about disk partitioning, not sure of pdf books...gparted should be able to do it..
[06:13] <Dispatch> thanks guys for all of your help... I finally fixed the issue.
[06:14] <hispeed67> Dispatch: what was iot?
[06:14] <Dispatch> I had to purge a couple things, and re-install them
[06:14] <Dispatch> my lightdm wouldn't let me login just kept giving me a login loop (for lack of better words)
[06:14] <Dispatch> so I purged lightdm and reinstalled the necessary packages.
[06:15] <milamber> hispeed67: when the machine reinstalls let the channel know some more specifics of the issue. . . is it not recognizing the card at all? and how do you know?
[06:16] <hispeed67> after installation, ifconfig only shows lp0
[06:16] <hispeed67> loopback, whatever its labeled
[06:16] <hispeed67> lp is line printer iirr
[06:17] <hispeed67> its at 97%, so wont be long
[06:21] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, can you look at my hd status http://pastebin.com/nr1PTg4T
[06:22] <hispeed67> sure,.,
[06:22] <root> what happened
[06:23] <root> omg
[06:23] <root> where am i?!??!?!?
[06:23] <Guest26883> where am i
[06:23] <Guest26883> omfg
[06:23] <Guest26883> pls help
[06:23] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, i  want that to divide
[06:23] <Sazpaimon_> I'm trying to configure my machine to connect to multiple openvpn servers at and route requests to them as a round robin. How can I accomplish this?
[06:23] <Guest26883> pls help
[06:23] <hispeed67> SPEEDWAVE: i see what you have..
[06:23] <Guest26883> omfg someone is trying to haxx0r me
[06:24] <Guest26883> are you nmaping my ip
[06:24] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, i want to partin that using gparted is that ok
[06:24] <Sazpaimon_> Guest26883, 2/10
[06:25] <cfhowlett> SPEEDWAVE, gparted won't partition a mounted system.  Logout and reboot with your ubuntu USB then partition
[06:25] <hispeed67> SPEEDWAVE: gparted should allow you to shrink sda1, run swapoff to turn off swap, delete sda5 and sda3. after shrinking sda1 to what you want (if you paste df results i could reccomend a size for sda1) then, create an sda2 drive for your /home partition.
[06:25] <SPEEDWAVE> cfhowlett, ok but my ubuntu 12.04 remains when i do the partitioning
[06:25] <cfhowlett> Guest26322, exactly also see ^^^
[06:26] <cfhowlett> hispeed67, has kindly offered assistance
[06:26] <cfhowlett> !cookie|hispeed67,
[06:26] <Guest26883> top kek
[06:26] <cfhowlett> Guest26322, have you an ubuntu support question?
[06:26] <hispeed67> prolly like sda1=15-20G, sda2=50G, sda3=75G, sda4=4g sda4=swap
[06:26] <Sazpaimon_> >top kek
[06:27] <Sazpaimon_> okay, 1.4/10 now
[06:27] <hispeed67> sda1=/, sda2=/home, sda3=/backup, sda4=swap
[06:28] <hispeed67> SPEEDWAVE: i could better stand by size reccomendations if i had df output
[06:29] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, whats that mean, hehehe sorry guys im just new in ubuntu..
[06:31] <hispeed67> SPEEDWAVE: know how you posted to pastebin? paste what your screen says when you type df
[06:31] <hispeed67> milamber: that installation to sdb1 picked up the wlan0
[06:32] <SPEEDWAVE> df
[06:32] <milamber> hispeed67: so you are all set?
[06:33] <hispeed67> well, sorta, getting ubuntu-desktop now.wont be all set for hours, gotta setup webserver, php, perl5 and beehive
[06:33] <hispeed67> but, 40mbit connection, so wont be too slow
[06:33] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, http://pastebin.com/LGViUq54
[06:34] <hispeed67> f'ing a. those numbers i reccomended should be great for you.
[06:35] <hispeed67> you will have sda1=/, sda2=/home, sda3=/backup and sda4=swap
[06:37] <hispeed67> gparted should allow you to shrink sda1, run swapoff /dev/sda5, delete sda5, delete sda2, create *primary* disk for sda2, sda3 and sda4 (im not a fan of not primary disks).
[06:38] <hispeed67> *primary* partitions, not logical.
[06:39] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67,  ok i will try
[06:39] <hispeed67> ill be here if you need help
[06:40] <SPEEDWAVE> hispeed67, ok
[06:40] <hispeed67> love you jerry
[06:41] <yaakov|eos> Anyone here mind helping me with a small issue?
[06:41] <yaakov|eos> Or well, small issue that I can't resolve.
[06:42] <Guest7646> I'm trying to stream media to my ps3, I've used mediatomb, some random dlna servers and nothing gets detected by my ps3 when it seems like everythings setup to do so
[06:42] <hispeed67> what's the issue?
[06:42] <Bauer> how can I launch a GUI application on Unity, from shell (ssh on remote control)?
[06:42] <hispeed67> bauer: two unix boxen?
[06:42] <Bauer> hispeed67: what?
[06:43] <makara> Bauer, just type the name of the app as it is in /bin/
[06:43] <hispeed67> bauer: unix boxes on both sides?
[06:43] <yaakov|eos> I can't upgrade or delete a package using sudo apt-get.
[06:43] <yaakov|eos> When I try, I get this error:
[06:43] <yaakov|eos> http://pastebin.com/u3iGLfvv
[06:43] <Bauer> hispeed67: no, I am at work on windows using putty
[06:43] <hispeed67> ssh auto-forwards X11, but if you are ssh'ing from windows to unix, you need an x-server on the windows machine
[06:44] <hispeed67> makara: or, am i incorrect?
[06:44] <hispeed67> the windows machine needs an X-server proggy
[06:44] <yaakov|eos> I honestly don't know what to do. I've googled for hours.
[06:45] <makara> i don't know. what's the app?
[06:45] <DeluxGhost> how to display chinese in ubuntu tty?
[06:45] <makara> Bauer, do you want to interact with the app as a GUI, or just launch it and send it arguments / run it as a daemon, etc
[06:46] <hispeed67> it's a GUI app..
[06:46] <Bauer> makara: well its not in /bin - I am trying to launch the installed teamviewer app I have, forgot to start it before leaving the house
[06:46] <yaakov|eos> Anyways, I think it has to deal with my filesystem experiencing errors due to a hardware issue a week ago.
[06:46] <hispeed67> ok, 12.04 server, installed, installed ubuntu-desktop, will it still boot into text mode?
[06:46] <makara> libreoffice is a gui app, but you can run it and have it process documents for you in the bg
[06:47] <xmetal> ok that has to be a bot .. every single night on a different name the exact same question
[06:47] <xmetal> over and over for a few nights now
[06:47] <yaakov|eos> Either way, this really sucks. :(
[06:47] <milamber> Bauer: are you sshing from ubuntu?
[06:47] <hispeed67> milamber: no, he's ssh'ing from windows
[06:48] <milamber> hispeed67: i am pretty sure putty supports it . . .
[06:48] <makara> Bauer, when I installed teamviewer the other day, it opened in Wine
[06:48] <hispeed67> putty is an X server?
[06:48] <Ben64> putty is a ssh client
[06:48] <milamber> Bauer: http://www.math.umn.edu/systems_guide/putty_xwin32.html
[06:49] <hispeed67> hey, does 12.04 have gpm still ?
[06:49] <Ben64> !info gpm precise | hispeed67
[06:49] <hispeed67> nice..
[06:50] <makara> Bauer, either way, you need to find the teamviewer executable. Try all the /usr/bin
[06:50] <makara> Bauer, search for it `locate -i *teamviewer*`
[06:51] <Ben64> why not "which teamviewer"
[06:51] <hispeed67> find -iname *teamviewer* -print
[06:52] <Bauer> makara: there is no normal executable, it is installed in /opt/teamviewer8 and it is a bunch of bash scripts, which dont work if I try from command line
[06:52] <Ben64> which is why you should use something better than teamviewer :)
[06:52] <Bauer> Ben64: there is nothing more user friendly and quick to use :P
[06:53] <Ben64> this isn't seeming very user friendly
[06:53] <Ben64> while vnc "just works"
[06:54] <Bauer> Ben64: because I forgot to turn it on hehe :P and about vnc - last time I tried it,  I had hell setting it up for dual screens, I dont even remember if I figured out how to switch screens when using it
[06:56] <doneill> Hi all. I'm having a difficult time running my Qt application on my Nexus 4 running the last Touch release: "/root/Flintlock/./build/Flintlock ./qml/Booru/main.qml -platform ubuntu --desktop_file_hint=/root/Flintlock/Flintlock.desktop" just seems to hang and "ubuntumirclient" doesn't do more than crash with "QUbuntu: Could not create application instance". What am I doing wrong?
[06:56] <Bauer> milamber: I just set up everything as per that guide, but no X session forwarded.. it opens normal terminal
[06:57] <bl4ckdu5t> what's the difference btw 12.04 and 13.04?
[06:57] <milamber> that's how it should start
[06:57] <milamber> try running a graphical app like this: <program name> &
[06:58] <milamber> Bauer: the & will allow you to type other commands into the terminal, it sort of releases the process to the background
[06:58] <juniour> hello guys one command starts at startup and eats all my cpu process how to remove. command is .ruby.bin plz help
[06:58] <Bauer> ahhh yes, problem is I cant start teamviewer from command line :P how can I emulate the link to start it in Unity?
[07:00] <hispeed68> bauer: you need an X-Server for windows
[07:01] <Xanadu> hey what's up?
[07:02] <rexwin___> ask!
[07:02] <Xanadu> anything going on so far?
[07:02] <hispeed68> do i need to run a web-server to run beehive project?
[07:03] <hispeed68> anybody have time to take a look at it and see? it requires perl and php
[07:03] <Ben64> Xanadu: this is a support channel, not a chat channel
[07:03] <bazhang> Xanadu, this is ubuntu support, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:03] <makara> bl4ckdu5t, if you don't know, get 13.04
[07:03] <Xanadu> ok then bye.
[07:03] <makara> bl4ckdu5t, get 13.10 now
[07:03] <Bauer> thanks Ben64, hispeed68 and milamber :) I found a workaround: using the X forwarding, I just started the actual GUI program I needed, instead of using teamviewer to start/use it :D
[07:03] <juniour> hello guys one command starts at startup and eats all my cpu process how to remove. command is .ruby.bin plz help
[07:04] <Ben64> Bauer: that works i guess
[07:04] <milamber> Bauer: coolio
[07:05] <hmmmmmmmm> os[Linux 3.11.0-12-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "saucy" 13.10] cpu[4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3220 CPU @ 3.30GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 3.30GHz] mem[Physical: 7.8GB, 88.2% free] disk[Total: 914.7GB, 76.8% free] video[Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Pitcairn XT [Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition]] ether[Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH1: USB-Audio - SB X-Fi Surround 5.1
[07:05] <hmmmmmmmm> Pro2: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI]
[07:05] <makara> hispeed68, apache beehive? it's been retired
[07:05] <hispeed68> no, beehive project is a forum thing.. requires php and perl.. not sure bout apache though
[07:07] <hispeed68> makara: http://www.beehiveforum.co.uk/about/
[07:09] <makara> hispeed68, you want to set up a discussion forum?
[07:09] <hispeed68> yes.
[07:09] <makara> hispeed68, then you will need a web server
[07:09] <hispeed68> ok. np, just didn't know if i needed one or not.
[07:09] <helmut_> hi
[07:10] <hispeed68> thnx
[07:10] <makara> hispeed68, you might want to start out serving a static HTML website
[07:11] <hispeed68> that's how ill start of course, will go from there.
[07:11] <hispeed68> it's been a couple years, but i expect it will come back to me.
[07:11] <Patterson[FR]> Hi folks
[07:13] <hispeed68> makara: i did the ubuntu-desktop thing. now, when i reboot, ill still get text mode by default, right?
[07:14] <hispeed68> i prefer booting into text, and using startx if i gotta.
[07:14] <Ben64> startx isn't the correct way
[07:14] <Patterson[FR]> one question : using xubuntu with xfce desktop, what is the keyboard shortcut to display a terminal ?
[07:14] <Patterson[FR]> if exists
[07:15] <Ben64> Patterson[FR]: maybe ctrl+alt+t ?
[07:15] <hispeed68> ben64:what's the correct way?
[07:15] <Ben64> hispeed68: sudo service lightdm start
[07:15] <Patterson[FR]> @ben : nop
[07:16] <Ben64> Patterson[FR]: well thats what it is in ubuntu... you should be able to configure one in xubuntu
[07:16] <leif_> is there a irc for guys doing sever stuff sorry is new
[07:17] <Patterson[FR]> yep, i'm checking into xubuntu keyboard settings, i've founded something 10 sec away
[07:17] <maks_> hi, i installed a tools named sensors on my ubuntu lenovo ideapad laptop to check the fan speed, it says fan1:           0 RPM! but the cpu temp is around 44 and looks normal! could the tool be wrong and the fan is actually working?
[07:17] <Ben64> leif_: there is #ubuntu-server , but its for ubuntu server only, no other distros
[07:17] <leif_> well it is some web severs etc
[07:17] <leif_> running on ubuntu
[07:17] <hispeed68> well damn, guess i should have been there all this time.. ;)
[07:18] <sgo11> For "Software & Updates" --> Updates --> "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version", which file does this option configure? thanks.
[07:18] <Ben64> maks_: very unlikely you have a cpu fan at 0rpm without a melted cpu in your lap
[07:18] <Patterson[FR]> @ben : question sloved !
[07:18] <Patterson[FR]> * solved
[07:19] <maks_> Ben64: but why no tool can give the correct rpm? is there any good tool you know that works ?
[07:20] <Ben64> maks_: its possible the sensors stuff just doesn't support your computer
[07:21] <hispeed68> is apache the best/most secure web server for linux?
[07:21] <Ben64> !best | hispeed68
[07:22] <hispeed68> lol, right on
[07:24] <sgo11> hispeed68, I am using nginx.
[07:27] <Fudge> [A
[07:27] <sgo11> hi, which file does "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version" configure in "Software & Updates" ? I checked "gsettings get com.ubuntu.update-manager check-dist-upgrades". the value is always true regardless the configure value under "software & updates" GUI. thanks.
[07:33] <CaneToad> When my system boots, X doesn't work and if I do lsmod | grep nvidia, it says 9425761.  If I then rmmod nvidia and modprobe nvidia, lsmod | grep nvidia says 11309216.  Obviously on boot it is loading a different version nvidia driver.  Any ideas why boot and modprobe might give different module?   Free nouveau driver is not an option as it cooks my video card so hot that the system turns off.
[07:38] <Sreejith> hi i am unable to enable the parameter net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_tcp_timeout_time_wait on ubuntu 12.04 can u guys help me on this
[07:38] <iceroot> Sreejith: and what did you? what command? error message?
[07:39] <Sreejith> i have added the entry in /etc/sysct.conf file and tried the command
[07:39] <Sreejith> sysctl -p
[07:39] <Sreejith> error: "net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_tcp_timeout_time_wait" is an unknown key
[07:40] <kallaka> anybody using NEMO file browser here,
[07:40] <kallaka> i need some help
[07:40] <diogenes_> hey guys! can someone recommend me a foss shell for educational purposes? i want to write one and need  some guidance. thanks.
[07:40] <kallaka> i want to add send to bluetooth in right click option, how to do that
[07:41] <kallaka> there is no option in right click , and nautilus sucks
[07:41] <kallaka> it opens but cursor blinks for more than 30 seconds
[07:41] <k1l_> kallaka: for nemo support please see the mint support since its theirs filebrowser
[07:42] <daixtr> i have ubuntu 12.04, and i noticed when `ifconfig` i see pan1 interface and this is somehow associated with a running dnsmasq process. Is this a default setting in ubuntu?
[07:42] <bluechaos> guys where I can find some support for webmin (ubuntu)
[07:42] <kallaka> is there official channel for them
[07:42] <bluechaos> i'm ussing..
[07:42] <k1l_> !webmin | bluechaos
[07:42] <kallaka> tell me please
[07:42] <kallaka> k1l_:
[07:42] <k1l_> !mint | kallaka on another network there is
[07:42] <bluechaos> k1l_,  ok Thanks
[07:42] <gordonjcp> diogenes_: do you just want to study the code?
[07:42] <kallaka> okay
[07:42] <iceroot> Sreejith: sysctl -w net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_tcp_timeout_time_wait = 1  (or whatever the value is you wish to set)
[07:43] <iceroot> Sreejith: and relaod the changes with sysctl -a
[07:43] <daixtr> what's this pan1 interface doing in my ubuntu 12.04?
[07:44] <Sreejith> iceroot: please find the result given below
[07:44] <Sreejith> error: "net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_tcp_timeout_time_wait" must be of the form name=value error: Malformed setting "=" error: "1" must be of the form name=value
[07:45] <diogenes_> gordonjcp: yeah.
[07:47] <gordonjcp> diogenes_: consider looking into something like really old Unix-y OSes rather than the latest and greatest version of bash
[07:48] <iceroot> Sreejith: remove the whitepaces from the " = "
[07:48] <iceroot> Sreejith: sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_tcp_timeout_time_wait=1
[07:49] <CaneToad> ping [anyone]?
[07:49] <cfhowlett> CaneToad, pong
[07:49] <CaneToad> cfhowlett: thanks
[07:52] <Raymii> What is the best way to get just the kernel number, without the 'generic' or 'server' part? I have this: echo $(uname -r) | grep -Po '[0-9\.\-]*' but it has an ending dash
[07:56] <gordonjcp> Raymii: change your regex to match exactly one - ?
[07:56] <hispeed68> im going to get this installed and configured on a 40Gig drive, how hard is it to move the installation to a 200G drive?
[07:57] <Raymii> gordonjcp Yep, that will work.
[07:57] <Raymii> gordonjcp Thanks!
[07:57] <hispeed68> i can slice and dice the 200 however i want... figured i would match sdb1 size to a partition on sda1 then dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sda1
[07:57] <wilee-nilee> hispeed68, easy, a number of ways, I just cloned mine to move it to a ssd.
[07:59] <wilee-nilee> dd works I can't conform you command I never use dd
[07:59] <hispeed67> hey wilee, how did you clone it (software wise)?
[08:00] <hispeed67> what software did you use to clone it?
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> hispeed67, clonezilla, ut save the mbr, however easy to load if you don's save it on the new HD.
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> it*
[08:01] <hispeed67> i have like 10 flash drives, ill save to one of them. also, was thinking of striping 5 flash drives... thoughts?
[08:01] <hispeed67> all are 16G.
[08:02] <wilee-nilee> hispeed67, I have not striped any drives myself.
[08:06] <maks_> Hi, i noticed an error printed every time I boot my ubuntu PC, the boot finishes successfully but I always see this message after I enter the disk password: "scripts/local-top/cryptroot: line 1: can't open /dev/mapper/ubuntu/ " the disk was encrypted during the installation.. how can i fix this error message so that it does not show again ?
[08:14] <ytrezq> Hello, How do i remove the largefile feature from an ext4 fs which had contained large files? Using tune2fs tell to run e2fsck. When I do it, fsck restore the flag telling the filesystem contains large_files but lack LARGE_FILE in superblock, whereas it doesn't contains >2GB files anymore.  By the way, the filesystem is small: it wouldn't take long to send it DCC.
[08:19] <memoryleak> hi
[08:22] <sgo11> hi, which file does "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version" configure in "Software & Updates" ? I checked "gsettings get com.ubuntu.update-manager check-dist-upgrades". the value is always true regardless the value under "software & updates" GUI. thanks.
[08:23] <steveccc> does anyone know of a good piece of software for trying to recover usb sticks
[08:25] <ResQue> steveccc: i normal use testdisk to recover data, is that the sort of thing you are looking for?
[08:25] <steveccc> resque: not sure - basically i have a usb stick thats showing no filesystems and hence need to try to rebuild it
[08:26] <ResQue> steveccc: i would use testdisk and photorec to get you data back
[08:26] <ResQue> steveccc:
[08:26] <ResQue> steveccc:
[08:26] <steveccc> resque: thanks I will have a look - is photorec just for photos?
[08:27] <ResQue> steveccc: yes
[08:27] <ResQue> steveccc: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[08:27] <k1l_> steveccc: use dd-rescue first
[08:27] <steveccc> resque: is there anything similar for just files - text docs etc
[08:27] <BlueChaos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6317016/
[08:27] <ResQue> steveccc: here is a great place to start if you know nothing about data recovery:
[08:28] <ResQue> steveccc:
[08:28] <ResQue> 08:24 -!- ppai [ppai@nat/redhat/x-wifaqwiejnbcvgpv] has joined #ubuntu
[08:28] <ResQue> steveccc: dam copy and paste failed, this is the link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[08:29] <ResQue> steveccc: testdisk will recover all files
[08:32] <memoryleak> I need to add some hosts to be ignored by the proxy, but there is no field for this in the proxy settings. Chrome unfortunately is ignoring no_proxy in /etc/environment. How can I set this option?
[08:32] <memoryleak> With ignored, I mean "bypass for this hosts" :)
[08:32] <k1l_> BlueChaos: see virtualmin support for help. its not supported like webmin (since its based on webmin)
[08:33] <BlueChaos> k1l_,  can I talk with u in private?
[08:34] <k1l_> support only here in this channel. if you want support for virtualmin or webmin please see the projects support
[08:35] <steveccc> resque: thanks for your help - i think its broken - it isnt even reporting in testdisk
[08:36] <BlueChaos> k1l_,  ok I have some trouble
[08:36] <BlueChaos> I cannot use command tar -xvzf
[08:37] <BlueChaos> tar (child): drupal-7.21.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[08:37] <BlueChaos> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[08:37] <BlueChaos> tar: Child returned status 2
[08:37] <BlueChaos> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[08:40] <BlueChaos> k1l_,
[08:40] <BlueChaos> can u help me ? following this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal
[08:40] <BlueChaos> (manual)
[08:41] <k1l_> BlueChaos: how come you isntall a tar instead of the packages that ubuntu ships?
[08:43] <k1l_> !info drupal6 | BlueChaos
[08:43] <k1l_> !info drupal7 | BlueChaos
[08:44] <BlueChaos> OK I have installed to many apts (modules' I quess and I have some conflicts ..) how to reset ubuntu  ? clean all ?
[08:45] <Ben64> !away > a1|away
[08:46] <Ben64> BlueChaos: there is ppa-purge to remove ppas, but the problem is likely that you install things that are unsupported. like webmin, or other manually installed things
[08:48] <k1l_> BlueChaos: its not the first time you are told not to load anything into your ubuntu while not using the package-system. it was the same with xampp, webmin, virtualmin and now drupal. i would recommend a clean reinstall and then only stick to the ubuntu-packages
[08:49] <BlueChaos> k1l_,  ok thank you for support
[08:52] <BlueChaos> Found 2174 matching packages
[08:53] <brala61> 有人吗？
[08:53] <BlueChaos> too many :| HDD 500 gb 250 gb free :|
[08:53] <brala61> 嘎嘎 ～
[08:53] <k1l_> BlueChaos: you dont need to install all packages.
[08:54] <OerHeks> !cn | brala61
[08:54] <BlueChaos> I have installed all :|
[08:54] <k1l_> the drupal page you linked explaines what you got to install
[08:54] <denis_> join vim
[08:54] <denis_> hi. how can i join any chatroom for vim?
[08:54] <BlueChaos> I'm must to clean like u sayd with fresh install
[08:54] <BlueChaos> too many b1lt sh1ts installed.
[08:54] <denis_> :join
[08:54] <jonp> hello
[08:55] <denis_> #vim
[08:55] <OerHeks> denis_, try: /join #vim
[08:55] <denis_> oerheks Thank you :)
[08:57] <DiceDingus> I just upgraded ubuntu-gnome from 13.04 to 13.10, and I'm having a lot of weird sound problems. Spotify stopped functioning, and now freezes when I direct it to play a song, the terminal babble says that it doesn't have permission to make some sort of directory that pulseaudio needs it to. I try to listen to a song on youtube, and all videos are sitting and spinning endlessly, the buffer showing that it's loaded plenty enough to play,
[08:57] <DiceDingus> but never actually beginning to.
[08:57] <jonp> i am trying to find a package using apt-cache but not able to. May I ask about it here?
[08:57] <k1l_> jonp: you could try packages.ubuntu.com too
[08:58] <Inumedia> I've got Ubuntu 13.10 with a convertible laptop and I can't seem to get the on screen keyboard to show up, how do I properly enable it?
[08:59] <Inumedia> I've turned it on in the Accessibility settings, but nothing happened.
[08:59] <DiceDingus> I honestly don't understand why every update for this OS results in something breaking horribly. Ive been using it since Breezy and haven't once had a clean version upgrade.
[09:00] <Inumedia> Also, when I flip the screen around and rotate the display, the touch positions don't get inverted aswell.
[09:00] <jonp> k1l_, thank you.
[09:03] <Zerant> Heyho
[09:08] <illage2> Hey
[09:08] <denis_> hi all
[09:09] <denis_> i can talk in this channel but when i go to another channel i can't talk at all
[09:09] <denis_> it says cant send to channel something..
[09:09] <denis_> anyone knows why..?
[09:10] <k1l_> !register | denis_
[09:11] <k1l_> denis_: for problems with other channels on freenode please ask in #freenode for guideance
[09:11] <andreiiar> Hello. Yes this is dog.
[09:11] <andreiiar> How do I make if the adress that apt-get is trying to fetch something is down?
[09:12] <denis_> k1l_ and ubottu thank you so much
[09:12] <k1l_> andreiiar: depends on what error and what adress it is
[09:12] <andreiiar> It is no error
[09:13] <andreiiar> 0% [Connecting to ro.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[09:13] <andreiiar> And just sits there forever
[09:18] <illage2> ?
[09:18] <illage2> Sorry if I don't talk for long periods a bit busy today lol
[09:19] <minimec> andreiiar: You could try to change the adress of that repository in /etc/apt/sources.list. Replace 'ro' with 'de' (germany) or 'at' 'us' (Austria, US)... You would then know, whether your 'ro' repository is somehow broken.
[09:21] <illage2> I'm trying to get the Sound Indictor to work on Xubuntu.  I've tried this http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/xubuntu-1310-sound-indicator-fix.html
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> w
[09:21] <wylde> andreiiar, you can also try connecting with a browser to the address. I cannot connect to http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ but http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ works.
[09:22] <illage2> but it doesn't seem to work for me.
[09:22] <cm13g09> Morning all - slight problem.... I can't actually log in.... I put my password in, screen goes black, and then I get a login screen again.  Logging in at the terminal works fine.... I'm running Saucy.  Anyone able to point me int the right direction?
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> cm13g09  when in a terminal, type    df -h    to make sure no partition is 100% full... also delete old kernels
[09:24] <Ben64> cm13g09: usually happens because of the .Xauthority
[09:24] <cm13g09> MonkeyDust: nope, 44% used
[09:24] <cm13g09> Ben64: ok
[09:24] <cm13g09> As a bit of context, the machine had a hard power off due to power cut this morning
[09:24] <Ben64> cm13g09: ls -lan ~/.Xauthority
[09:25] <cm13g09> Ben64: showing as owned by my UID
[09:26] <cm13g09> -rw------- 1 1000 1000 53 Oct 28 09:04 /home/cmalton/.Xauthority
[09:26] <gordonjcp> cm13g09: why doesn't that show your username, instead of UIDs?
[09:26] <cm13g09> gordonjcp: ln -lan will be numeric....
[09:26] <Ben64> gordonjcp: cause i said -n
[09:26] <gordonjcp> oh okay
[09:26] <sunson> I want to be able to add / remove nodes from a couchdb replicated cluster (all masters). What is the easiest way to do it?
[09:27] <Ben64> easier to see for me if it says 0 or 1000 or w/e
[09:27] <gordonjcp> true
[09:27] <gordonjcp> Ben64: sorry, I missed that part
[09:27] <Ben64> cm13g09: but uh... have you tried fsck yet?
[09:27] <cm13g09> Ben64: It did run one when I booted....
[09:27] <cm13g09> I can run another one if you want me to....
[09:27] <Ben64> well you can't run on a mounted partition
[09:28] <cm13g09> heh, true
[09:28] <Ben64> anything in /lost+found/ ?
[09:28] <sunson> ie., I want to do maintenance on one of the machines in the cluster - I may upgrade couchdb some such. During such time I want the machine to not be 'replicating' to/from other hosts in the cluster.
[09:28] <cm13g09> nope :(
[09:28] <Ben64> any info from logs after the login screen reappears?
[09:29] <sunson> I'm about to write a simple program which will make a request to _active_tasks and if a given host must be pulled out of replication, it will make appropriate calls to stop replication (and vice-versa to start replication). Otherwise, it will monitor the number and log. The output of this daemon can be monitored.
[09:29] <cm13g09> Ben64: I wish I knew which log file to look at.... I'm normally a Debian user....
[09:29] <k1l_> what does .xsession-errors say?
[09:29] <Ben64> well debian isn't far off
[09:29] <cm13g09> OOOOOOH
[09:29] <sunson> but wondering if there is something existing already. please suggest if you think the above idea will work.
[09:29] <cm13g09> OK, yours truly is an idiot ;)
[09:30] <Ben64> cm13g09: so whats the deal? I see people in here with similar problems often
[09:30] <cm13g09> Ben64: Syntax error in .profile....
[09:31] <Ben64> loss of power corrupted .profile?
[09:31] <cm13g09> nope
[09:31] <cm13g09> a function I wrote on Friday
[09:31] <Ben64> heh
[09:31] <cm13g09> that works in bash
[09:31] <cm13g09> but not when starting an Xsession
[09:32]  * cm13g09 moves function to .bashrc
[09:32] <cm13g09> works....
[09:32] <cm13g09> (sigh)
[09:33] <cm13g09> Cheers Ben64
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> cm13g09: if you put it in /etc/environment or the bashrc like file in /etc, it will apply globally :)
[09:33] <cm13g09> ActionParsnip: true
[09:39] <cm13g09> Cheers for the help Ben64!
[09:39] <Ben64> !yay | cm13g09
[09:41] <SPEEDWAVE> how to uninstall program in ubntu 12.04
[09:42] <pogiako> hello
[09:42] <pogiako> has anyone used ubuntu tweak? how was it?
[09:43] <k1l_> pogiako: ubuntu-tweak is not supported. there is the unity-tweak-tool or the gnome-tweak-tool for settings of that desktops
[09:44] <pogiako> how is it unsupported?
[09:44] <pogiako> i have it here, i just installed it and discovering it haha
[09:45] <k1l_> pogiako: its not officially supported from ubuntu. so please see the projects support for help regarding ubuntu-tweak
[09:45] <pogiako> what>
[09:45] <pogiako> what?!
[09:45] <pogiako> lol
[09:45] <k1l_> !ubuntutweak | pogiako
[09:46] <pogiako> oo
[09:46] <pogiako> so what's the best app to customize ubuntu?
[09:46] <pogiako> lie compiz?
[09:46] <pogiako> i knda hate compiz coz my ubuntu crashes from it
[09:46] <pogiako> like*
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> pogiako  there's unity-teak tool
[09:46] <k1l_> pogiako: i told you already a tool fo that
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> pogiako  there's unity-tweak-tool
[09:47] <k1l_> for compiz there is ccsm, too. but be careful with the settings it can break compiz
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> and gnome-tweak-tool
[09:48] <pogiako> what's better?
[09:48] <pogiako> i like a stable one
[09:48] <MonkeyDust> pogiako  the one you prefer is better
[09:48] <pogiako> compiz?
[09:49] <pogiako> how do i uninstall ubuntu tweak?
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> pogiako  with synaptic
[09:49] <illage2> I use KWIN on my Xubuntu :)
[09:49] <illage2> Works a treat
[09:50] <k1l_> pogiako: depends on how you installed it
[09:51] <pogiako> i cliked on it in chrome
[09:52] <pogiako> then it opened in 'buntu software center
[09:53] <k1l_> remove it in software center?
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> pogiako  open the software center and delete it from there
[09:53] <pogiako> can't find it there
[09:53] <pogiako> tried
[09:54] <pogiako> typing it in search, nothing's showing
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> pogiako  then look in synaptic
[09:54] <pogiako> which one's better and safe to get it? on the web or software center
[09:54] <pogiako> i heard something's weird with canonical
[09:54] <pogiako> spyying and stuff
[09:54] <jpds> pogiako: No, that's the US gov.
[09:54] <pogiako> haha
[09:55] <pogiako> r u guys in the US?
[09:55] <k1l_> !ot
[09:55] <keith_> Hi, can anyione help with flash problem in ubuntu firefox?
[09:55] <pogiako> so where should i get it?
[09:55] <pogiako> synaptic?
[09:55] <pogiako> web or software centre?
[09:56] <pogiako> and i dont get y center is spelled 'centre' sometimes
[09:56] <pogiako> y?
[09:56] <pogiako> haha
[09:56] <pogiako> formality's sake?
[09:57] <pogiako> there i got it using software center haha
[09:58] <pavel_> Kaco: are you alive?
[09:59] <keith_> Hi, anyone help with a flash problem?
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> !ask
[10:00] <keith_> Thanks! Downloaded Flash from Ubuntu software center, flash just shows as white space on e.g. youtube in firefox....
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> pogiako: centre makes sense, its based on the french for a start
[10:00] <flyn4x4> hello all anybody wish to help with usb problems i refer you to http://paste.ubuntu.com/6317391/ line #951 and down (at least from what i see), Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. imho i think this was caused by one of the recent updates.
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> pogiako: also, look at any other word with 'centre' at the start, it's centre
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> pogiako: eg centrafuge, central
[10:01] <pogiako> ah
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> pogiako: its R first
[10:01] <pogiako> so its french?
[10:01] <pogiako> originally from france?
[10:01] <pogiako> ok got it ;)
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> pogiako: stupid americans dont seem to grasp this so spell it wrong (pheonetically)
[10:02] <pogiako> woah no need to be rude there ;)
[10:07] <salman> Is there a way I can list all the header files in a c++ project?
[10:10] <RVFCore_> Hi, can anybody help me with 12.04.02+Samba+AD 2003 Server?
[10:11] <iceroot> RVFCore_: if your question is related to samba, use #samba
[10:11] <iceroot> RVFCore_: if your question is relatzed to ubuntu, use this channel
[10:11] <RVFCore_> thanks
[10:12] <lgp171188> Hi, I am running Saucy on my desktop and don't mind running trusty during its development phase and help test stuff and file bugs. So when is the time to dist-upgrade to trusty? I know this question might be offtopic here, but thought it would be good to ask here.
[10:18] <iceroot> lgp171188: #ubuntu+1
[10:18] <lgp171188> iceroot, thanks. I have also asked the question there.
[10:22] <n3ptune> hellou
[10:24] <kallaka> ,helllo, everyone, i am using Nautilus and whenever i open it and close it, it stays in memory, when i reopen some folder, mouse goes to busy state for more than a minute,  it is annoying me, when i kill it, using task manager, and re open some folder , everything works fine, but only for one time, if i reopen something after closing it, same thing happens, please help
[10:25] <denis_> quit
[10:26] <petterroea> Hey
[10:26] <petterroea> I am having some problems with my touchpad
[10:26] <petterroea> Right clicking does not work
[10:26] <petterroea> What can i do to get some help?
[10:27] <kallaka> anybody, having same problem??
[10:27] <kallaka> ,helllo, everyone, i am using Nautilus and whenever i open it and close it, it stays in memory, when i reopen some folder, mouse goes to busy state for more than a minute,  it is annoying me, when i kill it, using task manager, and re open some folder , everything works fine, but only for one time, if i reopen something after closing it, same thing happens, please help
[10:28] <petterroea> Hm
[10:28] <petterroea> dunno, sorry :(
[10:28] <crocaspix> Hi everybody
[10:28] <petterroea> hi
[10:29] <flyn4x4> does anyone know how to rollback 2 updates?
[10:29] <crocaspix> I've got a problem with Ubuntu SS's update
[10:29] <flyn4x4> me too
[10:30] <crocaspix> I wanted to upgrade from Ubuntu RR, but the system crash
[10:30] <crocaspix> I'm on a macbook 5.2 (I know it's a bad thing :/)
[10:30] <crocaspix> Did anyone have had the same problem ?
[10:31] <crocaspix> I want to go downgrade on RR
[10:31] <dhanyaraj> I am really new to contribution. Can anyone tell me what is the next step after you commit the file (file in which you found the bug and you made the necessary changes) ????
[10:32] <Ben64> crocaspix: you can't really downgrade, its best to fix whatever problem you're having
[10:32] <n3ptune> guys
[10:32] <n3ptune> why if i try to run tor on ubuntu it gives me errors?
[10:33] <wylde> dhanyaraj, they can probably help you with that in #ubuntu-bugs
[10:33] <ariscop> i'm seeing no results (for anything) in the unity launcher, running in a terminal gives me "unity.dash.scopeproxy ScopeProxy.cpp:516 Could not search on (scope name) timed out waiting for scope proxy connections"
[10:34] <crocaspix> Ben64 : ok thanks, I don't know what the problem is :/ I'll try to find  ;)
[10:34] <crocaspix> (And I am a noob on irc...)
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> dhanyaraj  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[10:36] <k1l_> crocaspix: PPA or other 3rd party software can cause problems on a  upgrade
[10:38] <minimec> crocaspix: When did that crash happen, after the upgrade, duting the reboot? Do you have a blank screen problem after the upgrade?
[10:39] <petterroea> Can i somehow calibrate the touchpad so synaptics learns the right button?
[10:43] <jasic_> guys should we get permit for an Operating System with *buntu to Cannonical
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> jasic_: permit for what?
[10:44] <petterroea> What do you mean
[10:44] <cer> hi guys I am trying to recompiled the kernel to solve a problem onn one of my machines .... but all the instructions I found online are contradictory and do not work
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> !kernel | cer
[10:45] <jasic_> I heard that to keep an distro with *Buntu (Remastered fork) we should get permit from Cannonical
[10:45] <cer> ActionParsnip: yesterday after something like 7 hours of compilation following instructions the compilation failed with a ridiculous error .... have those instructions been update to the last kernel!?
[10:45] <k1l_> jasic_: yes
[10:45] <jasic_> k1l_: is it necessary?
[10:46] <k1l_> yes it is, jasic_
[10:46] <jasic_> k1l_: where can we?
[10:46] <cer> ActionParsnip: I mean to kernel > 3.5.
[10:47] <cer> !Stages | cer
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> jasic_  you ant to create a new ubuntu derivative?
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> want*
[10:47] <jasic_> MonkeyDust: yu[
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> jasic_  these names are already taken http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/UbuntuFamilyTree1210.svg
[10:49] <Ben64> geez, so many derivatives
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> jasic_: no, the OS is free, its one of the foundations of ALL Linuxes
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> jasic_: you are free to modify and change the OS as you desire.
[10:50] <jasic_> ActionParsnip: but should we take permission for *buntu
[10:50] <jasic_> where can I get it ?
[10:50] <k1l_> jasic_: see http://www.canonical.com/intellectual-property-policy
[10:51] <kindle> imho, linux is fragmented enough alrady. Unless you have veatures besides a few new apps and nothine else, I wouldn't do it..
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> jasic_: ther eare none, its free
[10:51] <Patero-ng> I'm on ubuntu server 13.10 how to release an ip from the dhcpcd server so it can be used on another interface?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> kindle: its one of the beautys of the OS you can fit it to your needs
[10:52] <kindle> I know.
[10:52] <jasic_> ActionParsnip: You mean we can keep our OS name Obuntu also or not??? should we take permit with cannonical?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> kindle: its one of the founding ideals of the OS, and is why the OS is where it is today. So telling people to 'not do it' makes no sense at all
[10:53] <k1l_> jasic_: see the link i gave you. it explaines alot and give informations on how to contact
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> jasic_: yes, you can do that, it's free
[10:57] <diverdude> is there an emacs mode for webscript highlighting in in the ubuntu repos?
[10:57] <zokko> hello folks, do you have any ready-to-use repo with mysqlnd_ms? :/
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[10:59] <excognac> hi all, it's really easy and straghtforward to install 12.04 kubuntu AND ubuntu with the same /home and user, I just need to create separatepartitions for / and /home, right?
[10:59] <Ben64> why not just install both KDE and Unity?
[10:59] <wylde> excognac, why not nstall one and add the other desktop environment?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> excognac: separate /home doesn't influence the ability for multiple DEs
[11:00] <excognac> wylde: cos I'm gonna work on this machine, i go for stability or it doesn't really matters now?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> excognac: it doesnt make a difference, you just choose the session at login
[11:01] <wylde> excognac, ^^ what ActionParsnip said
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> excognac: how would it affect stability?
[11:02] <zokko> uhm
[11:02] <excognac> ActionParsnip: ah ok, so i can even try out easy xubuntu too. Well, when i started to use ubuntu 9.04 it was i think, everbody adviced me to make separate installations to make sure i have a stable system
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> excognac  separate /home is easier to reinstall / upgrade... does not affect stability
[11:07] <MacroMan> If I run 'sudo shutdown 11:30' for example, then exit terminal, it cancels the shutdown. How can I set a shutdown and close the terminal to leave the shutdown timer in place?
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> MacroMan  run screen, then the shutdown command
[11:07] <MacroMan> MonkeyDust, Just 'screen' from terminal?
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> MacroMan  yes
[11:08] <MacroMan> OK, thanks. I'll give it a try
[11:08] <excognac> thanks all for advices. as i'm most comfortable with kde, sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends unity-desktop will install that environment, right?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> MacroMan: try using the at scheduler
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> MacroMan: sudo at 11:30            type:  shutdown -h now      then press CTRL+D
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> MacroMan: atd is a service so will not die when you close the terminal
[11:14] <cer> excognac: mmmm .... no, if you want to use kde .... you should do apt-get install kde-standard or apt-get install kde-plasma-dekstop
[11:14] <MacroMan> ActionParsnip, Thanks for the advice. I only really need to do this once in a blue moon. I've just tried screen and it seems to work OK.
[11:15] <cer> excognac: if you would like to install everything then apt-get install kde-full
[11:15] <MacroMan> ActionParsnip, Actually, that at scheduler seems quite good. I'll give it a try
[11:16] <cer> excognac: if you are a just starting, do "sudo apt-get install kde-full" so you do not have to play around with installtion later.
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> MacroMan: its dead handly, like cron but a single shot command
[11:17] <excognac> cer: sorry, I must have been unclear: I'll install kubuntu, then to get unity, I supposed to do what i wrote? sorry but i'm totally not confident enough with Unity to go for it straight
[11:18] <cer> excognac: "sudo apt-get install unity"
[11:19] <sam_> What is the command to launch gnome-power-manager GUI? (running lxde so no menu item)
[11:19] <excognac> cer: this is what i meant. thanks.:)
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> sam_: in terminal type 'gnome' then hit TAB a few times, see what you get
[11:20] <sam_> ActionParsnip, gnome
[11:20] <sam_> No command 'gnome' found, did you mean:
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> sam_: in terminal, type the word 'gnome' without the quotes and press TAB
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> sam_: you will get commands suggested that start with the word 'gnome'
[11:21] <sam_> ActionParsnip, yep; no command gnome found