[02:38] <cjohnston> that was fun
[02:44] <mhall119> cjohnston: nigelb: did some reviews for you
[02:48] <mhall119> cjohnston: having a fun night?
[02:50] <cjohnston> had a trauma alert
[02:51] <mhall119> so I saw
[02:59] <cjohnston> havent rode in the back of an ambulance in prolly 2 years
[03:01] <mhall119> what happened? car accident?
[03:02] <cjohnston> no fall
[03:29]  * nhandler should see if his police scanner app supports cjohnston's area ;)
[03:32] <cjohnston> nhandler: there is one.. if you want me to find it for you
[03:36] <nhandler> cjohnston: I just found a few feeds for Orange County
[03:40] <cjohnston> fire or sheriff
[03:41] <nhandler> cjohnston: They had public safety and sheriff
[03:41] <cjohnston> gotcha
[08:03] <nigelb> mhall119: saw, thanks :-)
[08:07] <nigelb> mhall119, cjohnston: High fives to all of us. Its now a month from UDS. In summit, we have fixed 12 bugs and have 6 bugs in process \m/
[09:55] <YoBoY> good morning
[23:10] <cjohnston> Ronnie: I believe I have fixed the merge conflict int he CSS.. Would you mind taking a look at it and seeing if it all looks ok?
[23:13] <Ronnie> cjohnston: sure, ill have a look
[23:14] <Ronnie> cjohnston: where can i find the change?
[23:42] <cjohnston> Ronnie: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/0.2/revision/432
[23:43] <Ronnie> i have to sleep now, i hope i can review tomorrow
[23:44] <cjohnston> thanks Ronnie


[23:47] <mhall119> bobweaver made it on OMG!Ubuntu!
[23:48] <ogra_> scary, so there are celebrities in this channel now ?


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[19:48] <Kajover> hey.. short question.. will the new dusttheme come with ubuntu 8.10 (or is it already in use in the current beta). And where can I get this wallpaper? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DustTheme?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=dust-0917-screenshot.jpg
[19:57] <Marie_untu> anyone knows about a wifi card with pxe boot support??
[19:57] <Marie_untu> or any other way to support wireless booting???


[19:15] <asad_> harishkrupo: I'm using the synaptics i2c module for my touchpad.
[19:15] <JennyBlueBird> Hi guys. Just recently installed 15.10 Xubuntu, and use the restricted nvidia drivers ( the version which said "tested"). All text and fonts look horrific, as if it is not smoothed at all. tried playing with settings in the GUI , firefox and even nvidia-settings but nothing seems to change it.
[19:16] <JennyBlueBird> any ideas ? :S
[19:17] <toast762> !!!!!!!SOLVED.  Thanks AKIK and Oerhek  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:17] <harishkrupo> asad_, here read this http://askubuntu.com/questions/33574/how-can-i-test-to-see-if-my-touchpad-is-supports-more-than-2-finger-gestures
[19:19] <asad_> harishkrupo: Thanks. I'll have a look at it.
[19:19] <akik> toast762: did you install quickbooks from a tar file or how?
[19:19] <harishkrupo> asad_, to summarize install geis-tools and run geisview
[19:19] <toast762> it was an rpm that I used alien to get to deb.
[19:20] <rhalff> hi, does ubuntu normally have a .bash_profile file?
[19:20] <toast762> I don't think i'm done yet though.  I can now run it but it doesn't seem to stay running like it should.
[19:20] <harishkrupo> asad_, check devices touches in the tree view of the last option
[19:20] <rhalff> Trying to debug something and don't know if a utility overwrite it or newly created it.
[19:20] <akik> toast762: you should probably use a red hat distro if it's for anything serious
[19:21] <toast762> ok
[19:21] <nicomachus> rhalff: no.
[19:21] <slidinghorn> rhalff: by default, there isnt one, but you can create it
[19:21] <rhalff> nicomachus, ok thanks, then I found the bug I guess :)
[19:21] <toast762> only reason I did ubuntu is because free.
[19:22] <toast762> redhat is paid isn't it?
[19:22] <harishkrupo> redhat is paid for the support
[19:22] <toast762> ahh..
[19:22] <akik> toast762: centos and fedora are free. centos is a binary compatible version of rhel
[19:24] <akik> i don't know the right word in english. centos is compiled from the same sources as rhel
[19:26] <toast762> My only linux experiance is Mint and Ubuntu so I went with Ubuntu this time but I'll pull down Cent and try again.
[19:26] <toast762> this small business I'm helping keeps hosting thier Quickbooks files on one of their desktops.  everytime they get spyware it brings their business to a halt.
[19:27] <toast762> wanna host the QB on a seperate machine that is hardened so they don't have this problem constantly.
[19:29] <boxmein> oh also
[19:29] <boxmein> i yesterday waltzed in here complaining about all windows showing black, while window deco, unitydash, notifications etc worked
[19:29] <boxmein> sudo apt-get upgrade installed a new version of intel drivers, that magically solved it
[19:29] <boxmein> just for Documentation(TM)
[19:30] <nicomachus> it's amazing what new intel drivers can resolve.
[19:31] <toast762> how hard are some of the Linux certifications?
[19:31] <toast762> <--20 year Windows/network IT vetran with very little *nix experiance.
[19:31] <deicer> Linux+ isnt bad
[19:32] <bazhang> toast762, thats for #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:32] <toast762> oh.  sorry
[19:32] <toast762> forgot I was in support.
[19:32] <bazhang> np
[19:32] <deicer> heh
[19:32] <deicer> toast762 try the Comptia Linux+ first
[19:32] <deicer> u can find sample questions on da net
[19:32] <hispeed67> when you run update, why do you use two &'s?
[19:32] <toast762> k
[19:33] <bazhang> hispeed67, when followed with upgrade?
[19:33] <zykotick9> hispeed67: && means, after first command completes successfully do second.
[19:33] <hispeed67> why not use ; ?
[19:34] <boxmein> hispeed67: ; runs the second command whether or not the first command exited successfully
[19:34] <hispeed67> aahhhh.. thnx
[19:34] <boxmein> hispeed67: programs indicate "i completed successfully" with an exit code ($?) of 0, and any errors are non-0 exit codes
[19:34] <hispeed67> thought it had something to do with 'run in background'..
[19:35] <boxmein> hispeed67: so update && explode runs explode only if update exits with 0
[19:35] <MiningMarsh> that is just a single &
[19:35] <MiningMarsh> command &
[19:35] <MiningMarsh> will run command as a job in the background
[19:35] <boxmein> hispeed67: yeah, what MiningMarsh said
[19:35] <MiningMarsh> && is seperate
[19:35] <hispeed67> gotcha.
[19:45] <ubuntu845> hey
[19:46] <ubuntu845> could use some help
[19:46] <ubuntu845> anyone worked on android studio?
[19:46] <EriC^^> ubuntu845: what's the problem?
[19:46] <EriC^^> oh
 Thank-you very much for saving my data, could you tell me is it possible to install git on try ubuntu..
[19:47] <ubuntu845> Anyone?
[19:49] <sysop-rick> Hi! is there anyone knowing a method to convert a xml file that has been generated by Figaro password manager 2 and then imported in any available password manager? I.E keepassx
[19:49] <slidinghorn> ubuntu845: It's better to just come out and ask your question.  If anyone knows the answer, they'll reply.  However, this channel is only for Ubuntu support, so if it's a question on how to do something in android studio, it'd likely be off-topic here
[19:50] <goddard> i modified a kernel file and compiled.  It was suppose to fix a problem, but the problem still exists.
[19:51] <ubuntu845> slidinghorn yeah i know but anroid irc channel requires some sort of authorization.. so i came here hoping someone might help
[19:51] <slidinghorn> ubuntu845: chances are, they just need your nick to be registered...a lot of channels do it to prevent spamming, etc.  /msg nickserv help       for more information on how ot register
[19:51] <renn0xtk9> some people literrate with rsync? I am doing rsync -v -a -z -E -h --progress --delete-before /home/max/.kde/share/apps inspiron/.kde/share/apps from a script located on a usb key. it does not work
[19:52] <ubuntu845> my question, Ive an android project folder, my friend's actually. How do I import or open that project on a freshly installed android studio and run it?
[19:52] <harishkrupo> ubuntu845, go on
[19:53] <harishkrupo> ubuntu845, you will find that option as soon as you open android studio
[19:54] <ubuntu845> i did that but what file I'm supposed  to select to open on?
[19:54] <javabean_> I have a ubuntu digital ocean droplet
[19:54] <javabean_> is there anyway I could create a way to see wether someone has hacked it
[19:54] <javabean_> ?
[19:54] <javabean_> perhaps see if they have edited config filesd.
[19:55] <harishkrupo> ubuntu845, when you browse through your directory you will find your project directory with the android studio logo instead of the directory logo, open that
[19:58] <ubuntu845> harishkrupo trying.. be back
[20:03] <Iresf>  i have installed kerio on ubuntu 14.04 but it doesnt work for me please help me i couldnt find any sulotion for this problem
[20:03] <bazhang> what is kerio Iresf
[20:05] <slidinghorn> Using a stripped down version of 15.10 and cannot connect to any WPA network other than the one Ubuntu configured during install.  My wireless info from the script is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/14077651 - I've added a friend's network info using nm-connection-editor just like the original connection (obviously using its own info) to no avail
[20:05] <nicomachus> bazhang: seems to be a VPN client.
[20:05] <doubleDragons> Iresf, make sure you've followed this steps: http://kb.kerio.com/product/kerio-connect/installation-and-upgrade/installing-kerio-connect-on-ubuntu-server-1404-lts-1628.html
[20:05] <bazhang> thanks nicomachus
[20:06] <slidinghorn> (unfortunately, I'm at home, so I can't immediately test if something works until I go somewhere else with a different network)
[20:08] <metroins> How do I install a .tar.gz?  I am trying to install Java Runtime Development kit
[20:08] <sivang> hi all
[20:08] <teward> !java | metroins
[20:09] <teward> metroins, there's useful information on that page including instructions and such
[20:09] <metroins> teward: Well that was easy, thank you
[20:09] <teward> metroins, you're welcome
[20:10] <sivang> I'm getting this when running glxgears, libGL error: failed to authenticate magic 85
[20:10] <sivang> libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
[20:10] <sivang> anybody knows how can I make this go away?
[20:10] <D4RK3D> exit
[20:10] <Iresf> doubleDragons : i can not access to kerio website it is block in my country
[20:10] <sivang> (I'm running on an EC2 instance, and I'm doing a headless web testing with webkit so I don't think I need any opengl support in hardware)
[20:11] <harishkrupo> \quit
[20:16] <sn0w3> Who is a geek ?
[20:16] <reveal> <-
[20:18] <slidinghorn> !ask
[20:20] <sruli> lubuntu 14.04 i want to update spice-gtk and its dependencies to the packages from 15.04 how can i do that?
[20:22] <blackwind_123> hi all, there used to be a application called SCREEN, im not able to install it in my UBUNTU machine now using "sudo apt-get install screen", also please let me know if there is any better app than screen...?
[20:23] <EriC^^> blackwind_123: what error do you get?
[20:24] <slidinghorn> sruli: Essentially it sounds like you're looking for a PPA.  Unfortunately, PPAs aren't supported here.  You might be best off waiting til April when 16.04 LTS comes out, which would almost assuredly have the newer version
[20:24] <jann_> hallo jemand hier? kann mir jemand helfen ?
[20:24] <slidinghorn> !de | jann_
[20:25] <sruli> slidinghorn: i need the functionality of the updated app, can i add 15.04 to my repo list and get it that way?
[20:26] <slidinghorn> sruli: definitely not...that will most likely break just about everything
[20:26] <thoht__> hi
[20:26] <sruli> slidinghorn: i will remove the repo after i nstalled the packages i need
[20:26] <thoht__> i just installed ubuntu instead of a previous windows install
[20:27] <thoht__> and during install; grub don t want to install
[20:27] <thoht__> i says there is multiple labels
[20:27] <thoht__> i tried to perform dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
[20:27] <thoht__> where sdb is the hard drive
[20:28] <slidinghorn> sruli: your 2 options are either a PPA or waiting for 16.04 (assuming you didn't upgrade because you want an LTS release)
[20:28] <thoht__> now the grub installer try to install grub on /dev/sda -which is my current usb key with the ubuntu install image -
[20:28] <thoht__> any clue to finish the install properly ?
[20:29] <Macsurf> hello I have problem enable module for rt73, I installed firmware-ralink, lsmod gave me nothing :(
[20:29] <slidinghorn> thoht__: Try not to use the enter button as punctuation.  It makes your problem very difficult to read & follow.  Try posting everything on one line in the future. :)
[20:29] <blackwind_123> EriC^^ : Package not avaialable, im trying to install SCREE
[20:29] <thoht__> slidinghorn: sure
[20:29] <Macsurf> rt73 module for wifi usb of course
[20:30] <sruli> slidinghorn: i have been pushing off upgrade as i want LTS, i am starting to think I cant wait any longer, how likly is it to get into trouble with my config when upgrading from 15,10 to 16.04?
[20:31] <sruli> slidinghorn: and how stable is 15.10 vs 14.04
[20:32] <EriC^^> blackwind_123: are you typing SCREEN or screen?
[20:32] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install screen ?
[20:32] <EriC^^> !info screen
[20:32] <thoht__> slidinghorn:  i think i erased the table partition/ with fdisk -l; there is nothing anymore after the dd done ::
[20:33] <zykotick9> blackwind_123: you _might_ want to check out tmux as an alternative to screen YMMV
[20:34] <slidinghorn> thoht__: fdisk -l should only list the tables...that command won't make any changes.
[20:34] <blackwind_123> EriC^^ : yes tats right, i update the source.list file in apt dir, after which im able to run the apt-get. thank you for the help
[20:34] <thoht__> slidinghorn: fdisk -l don't show me the 2 partition created during ubuntu installation anymore
[20:34] <blackwind_123> zykotick9 : tmux , is it better than SCREEN
[20:34] <zykotick9> thoht__: are you using "sudo fdisk -l"?
[20:35] <zykotick9> blackwind_123: is yellow better than orange?  it's a user preverence thing.
[20:35] <thoht__> zykotick9: yes. even with fdisk /dev/sdb then press "p" it show me the just the disk label but not partition
[20:35] <zykotick9> thoht__: ok, just checkin'
[20:36] <blackwind_123> zykotick9 : agree
[20:37] <zykotick9> blackwind_123: i used screen for many years, i now like tmux a lot more... but again YMMV
[20:37] <thoht__> zykotick9: i wanted to erase the MBR but i think partition table was also wiped when i did dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
[20:37] <ikonia> thoht__: that will do the partition table too
[20:37] <thoht__> ikonia: so i can recreate it with fdisk ?
[20:37] <sruli> slidinghorn: how stable is 15.10 vs 14.04
[20:38] <ikonia> thoht__: you can, but it's gone
[20:39] <slidinghorn> sruli: They're both workable versions - Just know that if you decide to upgrade, you'll have to do 14.04-14.10, 14.10-15.04, then 15.04-15.10....followed by an upgrade to 16.04 for the LTS when it comes out
[20:41] <sruli> slidinghorn: will do a reinstall
[20:41] <thoht__> ikonia: data are not gone
[20:41] <ikonia> I didn't say the data was gone
[20:41] <thoht__> so i could recreate the table partition as it was
[20:42] <ikonia> as I said "yes" just be aware the partition table is currently "gone"
[20:43] <thoht__> ikonia: i m still in the ubuntu installer
[20:44] <thoht__> my primary issue is /dev/sdb has still trace from previous windows installation and grub don t want to install due to that.
[20:45] <ikonia> thoht__: that seems unlikley to be the problem
[20:45] <ikonia> thoht__: what "trace" of windows is stopping grub install ?
[20:45] <thoht__> ikonia: `install-grub` claims that I have multiple partiton labels and that embedding is impossible
[20:45] <dunkel2> hello
[20:46] <ikonia> thoht__: why is that a windows install problem ?
[20:46] <dunkel2> i added a daemon to init.d but is not starting on boot, how can i check what is going on?
[20:46] <ikonia> actually - never mind, do what you feel best
[20:46] <Uber> hello
[20:46] <ikonia> dunkel2: what version of ubuntu ?
[20:46] <dunkel2> Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
[20:47] <ikonia> dunkel2: that release is end of life and out of support
[20:47] <dunkel2> :(
[20:47] <dunkel2> i did the update-rc.d name defaults but still not strting on boot
[20:47] <ikonia> dunkel2: that release is end of life and out of support
[20:47] <dunkel2> :(
[20:48] <zebn11> What is the procedure for installing more font sizes for VGA, so it can be selected in dpkg-reconfigure console-setup? The smallest option is too small, and the bigger VGA sizes are a bit too large
[20:48] <zebn11> (I'm not sure how to phrase this question really. Just trying to get more VGA size options for console)
[20:52] <nicomachus> dunkel2: upgrade!
[20:55] <dunkel2> not possible at the moment but yes i will
[20:55] <nicomachus> why not?
[20:57] <akik> zebn11: have you tried setfont and the fonts found in /usr/share/consolefonts ?
[20:57] <Bilel_mk> hey everyone can someone help how can i change my ip on mozilla on ubuntu ???
[20:57] <ikonia> Bilel_mk: why do you need to change your IP ?
[20:58] <zebn11> akik: thanks, I'll give this a try.
[20:59] <ubagters> zebn11: what
[21:00] <Bilel_mk> ikonia, i want more Privacy  wen i connect to the internet or in local wfif internet
[21:00] <ikonia> Bilel_mk: changing your IP won't make it more private
[21:00] <muzontrek> HI
[21:00] <iu8z> hello everyone, I tried half a dozen DVDs to burn install image, but I get this error: 'error while burning: SCSI error on write(0,16): [3 73 03] Medium error. Power calibration area error.' I tried with brasero. are all discs defected, or is it the image?
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> Bilel_mk  tor browser is a start, it's based on firefox
[21:01] <ubagters> Bilel_mk: nothing is private on the internet anymore
[21:01] <nicomachus> Bilel_mk: you can also look into a VPN service.
[21:01] <ubagters> Bilel_mk: how private. Who you hiding from. Is important
[21:03] <BluesKaj> iu8z, check the md5 sum of the image file
[21:03] <Bilel_mk> i am not heiden i whant to try every think tor browser i dont like it i want to modify my firefox with my one
[21:03] <ubagters> Bilel_mk: TOR or vpn is useful for most. But don't go threatening to blow things up.
[21:03] <Bilel_mk> VPN how i use it ??
[21:03] <ubagters> Bilel_mk: then TOR browser. It's free and no set up.
[21:03] <Bassem> how can i make uget download from youtube
[21:04] <iu8z> BluesKaj, I dont know how to check it.
[21:04] <BluesKaj> !md5 sum
[21:04] <slidinghorn> !vpn | Bilel_mk
[21:05] <ubagters> Bilel_mk: https://www.torproject.org
[21:05] <kichuku> Hello. Does anyone here use google cloud compute?
[21:05] <nicomachus> !checksum | iu8z
[21:05] <muzontrek> Hello , there is a problem , I can not open the file etc / shadow opens in gedit and writes that are not allowed to open the file , though sitting with root ..
[21:05] <nicomachus> Bassem: install youtube-dl
[21:05] <kk4k> I'm having problems with my hard drive. Someone told me to run sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda to fix it. Should I run this?
[21:06] <kichuku> I am having a problem with a linux VM running in google cloud compute. Usually shutting down the VM terminates the instance. But for this particular ubuntu VM the instance does not get terminated after I shut down the OS.
[21:06] <tlt> no
[21:06] <nicomachus> kk4k: absolutely not.
[21:06] <akik> kk4k: no
[21:06] <tlt> kk4k, you should not
[21:06] <ubagters> Bilel_mk: don't trust VPN. Most keep IP logs which the law can get easy. Really any body can get the logs just for the asking.
[21:06] <genii> kk4k: Not before trying other things first, that will wipe it out entirely
[21:06] <Bassem> nicomachus, uget can't download?? i want one program to download files and from youtube as well
[21:06] <muzontrek> Hello , there is a problem , I can not open the file etc / shadow opens in gedit and writes that are not allowed to open the file , though sitting with root ..
[21:06] <tlt> kk4k, always ask people in here before doing things you have no idea what does.
[21:06] <ubagters> Bilel_mk: TOR was designed by USA military. It's very secure.
[21:07] <nicomachus> Bassem: youtube-dl is made to download youtube videos.
[21:07] <Bilel_mk> ubagters, i have Tor but some web site become don't work somouthly
[21:07] <iu8z> nicomachus, thank you! I have the checksum now
[21:07] <genii> kk4k: You should probably describe to us what problems you are having with it first and see if theres something to do
[21:07] <Bilel_mk> like facebbook
[21:07] <Bassem> nicomachus, so i need two downloading programs one for files and one for youtube???
[21:07] <nicomachus> ubagters: Bilel_mk: that's a conversation for #ubuntu-offtopic or ##networking, not here.
[21:07] <ikonia> Bassem: look - grow up, stop trying to hide your ip from sites like facebook
[21:07] <akik> muzontrek: you need sudo root access to edit /etc/shadow
[21:07] <ikonia> it adds no value
[21:08] <Bassem> ikonia, what are you talking about?
[21:08] <nicomachus> Bassem: ikonia doesn't mean you. also, yes you need two programs.
[21:08] <ikonia> Bassem: sorry, I meant Bilel_mk
[21:08] <Bassem> nicomachus, will youtube-dl download from other sites or only youtube?
[21:08] <iu8z> md5sums of the downloaded iso matches that of the ubuntu version.
[21:08] <iu8z> so that means all my disks are unusable?
[21:09] <Mitchell1992> Hi... I'm installing Ubuntu Server on top of Hyper-V, and its stuck on, "installing the system 83%"... Is it not compatible.
[21:09] <Mitchell1992> ?
[21:09] <nicomachus> Bassem: it will download video from many sites with embedded players. I believe there are 20+ sites supported now.
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> Mitchell1992  there's also #ubuntu-server
[21:10] <BluesKaj> iu8z, perhaps your burner program or the cdrom drive has a problem
[21:10] <Mitchell1992> okay, MonkeyDust... thanks.
[21:10] <muzontrek> akik: how i can do it
[21:10] <Bilel_mk> ikonia, look i not heiden just i am just curious
[21:11] <akik> muzontrek: maybe "sudo gedit /etc/shadow"
[21:11] <Bassem> nicomachus, where i can find sound for xchat
[21:11] <Mitchell1992> MonkeyDust: It's moving along now... Just very slowly :)
[21:11] <nicomachus> Bassem: idk, that's not an ubuntu support question.
[21:11] <muzontrek> akik: TNX!!!
[21:12] <akik> no problem
[21:12] <iu8z> I was using brasero, it always used to work
[21:13] <iu8z> could you suggest me any other program to burn iso on dvd?
[21:13] <akik> iu8z: k3b, growisofs
[21:13] <muzontrek> akik: i write to console what u say and i get this and clear etc/shadow file
[21:14] <muzontrek> akik:(gedit:4595): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[21:14] <iu8z> akik, havent heard of them, thanks, I will try
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> !burn | iu8z
[21:15] <akik> muzontrek: do you have a command called gksu? maybe "gksu gedit /etc/shadow" be careful though about editing that file
[21:15] <nicomachus> iu8z: sometimes it can also be helpful to burn the disk at a slower speed.
[21:17] <muzontrek> akik:tnx i will try it
[21:18] <akik> muzontrek: if that doesn't work, use "sudo nano /etc/shadow" in the terminal
[21:18] <iu8z> MonkeyDust, thank you for the alternatives :)
[21:18] <iu8z> nicomachus, thank you! I'll try slower now
[21:19] <Sorry> first time i use ubuntu ! hi all
[21:20] <muzontrek> akik:TNX!!! it works!!!
[21:21] <iu8z> nicomachus, slowing down does seem to have done the trick..if it doesnt say 'ejecting medium' at some point, it already burned one fifth of it
[21:23] <Bassem> how can i Edit/ - Startup XCHAT
[21:24] <k1l> Bassem: can you explain more?
[21:24] <Bassem> i found some help on site says Edit/ - Startup XCHAT after you have the sound config file in the folder
[21:25] <Bassem> i did put the sound config file on the folder
[21:25] <Bassem> now how can i Edit/ - Startup XCHAT
[21:26] <nicomachus> Bassem: perhaps #xchat can help?
[21:27] <iu8z> just curious..why does the install process not ask for password to install bootloader when burning on disc, as it does when creating live usb?
[21:28] <OerHeks> xchat is nolonger under development, not finding basic sounds is a known issue
[21:29] <Bassem> done i fix it
[21:30] <iu8z> after burning the disc was completed, it was ejected saying 'there was an error occurred' ??!
[21:31] <iu8z> and the disk is shown as 1,1gb unknown.
[21:41] <nicomachus> well, he's gone, but this is why USB is preferred ^
[21:43] <tlt> yeah I'd've dd'ed the iso to a usb stick personally
[21:50] <akik> i use my usb dvd rom burner to burn installation discs
[21:50] <akik> dvd-r, dvd+r, dvd+rw
[21:51] <akik> iu8z must have a hw problem
[21:51] <nicomachus> it's hard to find a good, working optical drive these days because no one really uses them anymore.
[21:51] <iu8z> I tried the disc with brasero on another machine, and the whole process is about to complete successfully, and this at maximum speed..
[21:52] <akik> nicomachus: it's wrong to say no one
[21:52] <iu8z> yes, it is complete
[21:52] <akik> i just said i use it
[21:52] <nicomachus> akik yes, that was an exaggerated statement.
[21:53] <OerHeks> heh, i did burn one this week as ubuntu-support-point service
[21:53] <iu8z> thank you all for your help, going for the installation now!
[22:11] <snoozelose> Hello, can anyone help with Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit and VMware internet connectivity issue?
[22:12] <frecel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[22:12] <frecel> I think the pictures on this page need to be updated
[22:12] <frecel> it did make me feel a little nostalgic
[22:14] <slidinghorn> snoozelose: What's your question?  Try to keep it to one line & provide as much detail as possible.  If anyone knows the answer, they'll reply :)
[22:16] <snoozelose> Ubuntu in VMware doesn't have internet connection. I've used /etc/network/interfaces, tried static ip, tried dhcp, tried ifdown eth0 etc but no matter what "unknown host" when pinging. Nothing I seem to find online works. I have had this before but nothing resolves it now
[22:18] <nicomachus> snoozelose: idk about VMWare, but Virtualbox has a dropdown at the top of the window labelled "Devices" with an option for "Network" --> "Connect Network Adaptor". anything like that?
[22:18] <slidinghorn> snoozelose: what's the host OS and which version/flavor of ubuntu is the Guest?
[22:19] <snoozelose> Windows 7 64-bit host. ubuntu 14.04 LTS. VMware does have the guest connection and interfaces but that is connected. i've tried bridged, nat, and any other combo
[22:19] <slidinghorn> snoozelose: Have you seen this (and the links in the answer?)  Just throwing out ideas to start :)
[22:19] <slidinghorn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/578260/ubuntu-installed-on-vmware-cannot-get-access-to-internet  (link usually helps)
[22:21] <tgm4883> snoozelose: what is your host OS?
[22:21] <snoozelose> Before it just wouldn't connect, I followed a guide for /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and i got the ethernet to show the connected icon with "ifupdown(eth0), but still can't ping. I tried bridging adapters, that looks fine
[22:21] <snoozelose> Windows 7 64-bit
[22:22] <bob3247> whats the name of the security tool for beginner/intermediate on ubuntu  - to Scan and suggest fixes and even autofix issues ??
[22:22] <nicomachus> bob3247: never heard of such a thing...
[22:22] <slidinghorn> bob3247: Not sure one exists, but that's why this channel is here ;)  What seems to be the problem?
[22:24] <k1l> bob3247: there is no such thing as automated security :/
[22:24] <bob3247> slidinghorn, just spending a short time to check my security this evening and all the tools I have found so far seem a little complex for even an intermediate user so I was looking for something a little simpler to start with
[22:26] <MiningMarsh> bob3247: try rkhunter and chkrootkit
[22:26] <MiningMarsh> bob3247: They don't just report rootkits, they report any weird little issues they see
[22:26] <MiningMarsh> just run them once, no setup or anything
[22:27] <k1l> and you still need to know about that stuff they report to see if its a security issue or not.
[22:27] <myztic> is anyone running unity? I just switched to Ubuntu on my notebook (reached the point where I don't care anymore and want ease of use over "feeling l33t") and I have to admit: it's better than I thought it would be
[22:27] <k1l> so that is just fake secrutiy.
[22:27] <bob3247> thx MiningMarsh I'll give those two a shot
[22:27] <tgm4883> I run unity
[22:28] <MiningMarsh> k1l: well yeah, but it is a good start.
[22:28] <slidinghorn> bob3247: Well, you can try adding a GUI to iptables (the firewall) to make it easier to work with:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Easy_configuratin_via_GUI  (I'd recommend reading the whole page, not just that section)  Also, "clamav" is the default anti-virus, you can add a GUI to that as well: sudo apt-get install clamtk
[22:28] <rww> not when it comes up with a bunch of false positives on every Ubuntu installation and you delete them and hose your system, it's not
[22:28] <MiningMarsh> does it really?
[22:28] <rww> last time I looked into it, it did.
[22:28] <rww> s/it/them/g
[22:29] <MiningMarsh> rww: My bad then, I haven't run it against ubuntu, just gentoo
[22:29] <rww> they come up clean out of the box on gentoo?
[22:29] <bob3247> slidinghorn, I'll give clamav a run out too - I have had ufw/gufw up and running for a few months now, just with the default rules
[22:30] <MiningMarsh> rww: I had a single false positive last I checked
[22:30] <k1l> which is to scan windows partitions for windows viruses.
[22:30] <MiningMarsh> rww: iirc
[22:30] <supercom32> If I set a variable like java_home in a bash script, will it persist even after the script ends? Or will it only persist while the script is running?
[22:30] <k1l> bob3247: @ cltamav
[22:30] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: while it is running
[22:30] <k1l> *clamav
[22:31] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: a program/script cannot export a variable to any program that it does not itself spawn.
[22:32] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: if you want to export a variable top level, stick it in your ~/.(bash|zsh)rc  file
[22:32] <slidinghorn> k1l: It's certainly useful & smart to run it on your *nix side, as well...I've seen actual cases where Windows malware can negatively affect your linux install - also helps your standing as a good netizen ;)  (cc bob3247)
[22:32] <supercom32> @miningMarsh: I guess there is no way around this eh? I also assume this is the case for scripts called by other scripts. Sub scripts can't set variables of the parent?
[22:32] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: Nope, and yeah
[22:32] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: its a UNIX thing, all programs inherit the environment of their parent.
[22:33] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: So just find somewhere top-level enough to set what you need to
[22:33] <Dro> oracle status show this: http://pastebin.com/r1dn4XBn anyone have an idea how to solve it please?
[22:34] <supercom32> @MiningMarsh: do you know of a command that can specifically list what java versions are installed and complain if it's not high enough?
[22:34] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: and also, there is a common workaround in bash of returning something to be evaled
[22:34] <supercom32> @MiningMarsh: oh?
[22:35] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: yeah, make your script return something like "A=5;B=6"
[22:35] <MiningMarsh> and instead of calling `script`, call `eval $(script)`
[22:35] <MiningMarsh> it's kind of messy
[22:36] <supercom32> @MiningMarsh: ah, I will have to give that a try. I thought scripts could only return an exit number and not legit strings or variables.
[22:36] <slidinghorn> k1l: mind if I PM you for the example I was talking about?  Don't see you in -ot
[22:36] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: this gets java version on my machine: java -version 2>&1 | head -n1 | egrep -o '[0-9._]+'
[22:37] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: shouldn't be too hard to compare that against another version number
[22:37] <k1l> slidinghorn: go ahead.
[22:37] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: and I imagine that should work on anything that has `java`
[22:38] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: oh and yeah, when I said return
[22:39] <MiningMarsh> I didn't mean `return A=5;B=6` I meant `echo A=5;B=6`
[22:40] <peppino> hi
[22:40] <supercom32> @MiningMarsh: what if your sub script is interactive and you happen to echo a lot of guff? Will only the last line be used? I'm not sure how that works.
[22:42] <peppino> did someone of us try to start ubuntu live with gtx 960m?
[22:42] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: There is a really disgusting way of doing it
[22:43] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: make all the interactive stuff print to stderr instead of stdour
[22:43] <MiningMarsh> i.e. echo Hello user! 1>&2
[22:43] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: and then print what you want evaled to stdout as normal
[22:44] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: as (at least when I test with zsh, haven't tested with bash) the shell won't eat stderr
[22:44] <supercom32> @MiningMarsh: Gah! That is pretty messy. I guess I don't have many options do i?
[22:45] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: What are you trying to accomplish?
[22:45] <Bashing-om> peppino: Re-phrase please . Do "you" have a issue ?
[22:46] <peppino> yes, i have a big problem
[22:46] <peppino> when i try to start ubuntu live, it doesn't start
[22:46] <peppino> i've the same problem with other linux distro
[22:47] <supercom32> @MiningMarsh: I am trying to call a sub script that will prompt the user to define a jvm path to use as a java home car. But there is no way to pass that back to the parent so it can use it during it's own instance.
[22:47] <peppino> i think the prbme  is graphic card
[22:47] <k1l> peppino: maybe you need nomodeset already on the live system
[22:47] <Bashing-om> peppino: Have you tried booting the liveDVD with the boot parameter " nomodeset " ?
[22:48] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: You can use . instead of source and just source the subscript.
[22:49] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: . /usr/bin/ask-for-info.sh or whatever, I *think* that will let the "subscript" modify the calling scripts env
[22:49] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: since it is just a straight text replacement instead of an actual subprocess
[22:49] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: But yeah, not a ton of options if you are deadset on using a subscript
[22:49] <supercom32> @MiningMarsh: woosh! You lost me :-D Can you elaborate for me a bit? I'm a little green to this.
[22:51] <peppino> @Bashing-om how can i do this?
[22:51] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: Have you ever programmed C? "source /path/to/script" is basically "#include <path/to/script>"
[22:52] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: also, when you say "@MiningMarsh" instead of just "MiningMarsh", it doesn't actually let me know you were talking, fyi.
[22:53] <supercom32> MiningMarsh: Really?! I thought the @ sign was manditory syntax lol
[22:53] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: ". /path/to/script" takes the script's text, and replaces the line with it
[22:53] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: brb
[22:54] <supercom32> MiningMarsh: I see!
[22:54] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | peppino >> Boot the liveDVD, as soon as the bios scrren clears depress a shift key (MBR) -> language screen -> F6 key .
[22:54] <noon> how to login with my original nick from the command line ? irssi  ??
[22:54] <noon> i keep getting cannot send to channel #linux
[22:54] <k1l> !register | noon and for more help regarding freenode and the channels ask in #freenode
[22:56] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: So since you are not launching a script, just loading it, it runs in the same process, and lets you edit local variables in the calling script. Make sure to use ". script" and not "source script" (I have had issues with the latter)
[22:56] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | peppino
[22:57] <slidinghorn> I'm stepping away for a bit, but if anyone wants to take a crack at my wireless issue, it's here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2306665 | Basically I can only connect to the WPA network that Ubuntu set up during install, no others :-\   Later folks!
[22:57] <supercom32> MiningMarsh: that's strange. Most of the online articles say to use source
[22:58] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: You can try source. Last time I tested them it seemed like source was doing some sort of post processing, whereas . was just a raw text replacement.
[22:59] <MiningMarsh> I can't remember exactly what it was doing, but source was breaking something...
[22:59] <peppino> ubottu: now i try it. thank you :)
[22:59] <qdii> hey guys
[23:00] <qdii> can someone explain me what's going on here? http://pastebin.com/AZvfXhvB
[23:00] <Bassem> where youtube-dl usually download the files
[23:00] <peppino> Bashing-om: now i try it. thank you :)
[23:00] <k1l> Bassem: Download folder in your home?
[23:00] <tgm4883> qdii: it would appear that you've got packaging conflicts
[23:01] <Bassem> k1l, can i change it desktop?
[23:01] <qdii> ok, that part I understood
[23:01] <tgm4883> qdii: or rather, the application that you are trying to download has a conflict with some packages you have installed
[23:01] <xangua> Bassem: your home
[23:01] <tgm4883> qdii: so then whats the question?
[23:01] <qdii> well, I'm trying to install the 32 bit version of a library
[23:01] <qdii> I'm not sure what it conflicts with
[23:02] <k1l> qdii: can you try apt-get instead of aptitude?
[23:02] <xangua> also you might need to add a thir party repository to keep youtube-dl updated Bassem (the update option is removed from the Ubuntu package)
[23:02] <Bashing-om> peppino: :) We are here if still with a problem . If installing remember after install to install a graphic's driver .
[23:02] <qdii> k1l: yeah, I did actually
[23:02] <qdii> basically same error but less verbose
[23:02] <Bassem> xangua, how can i add it?
[23:03] <tgm4883> qdii: libllvm3.6v5 conflicts with libllvm3.6
[23:03] <qdii> you mean, libllvm3.6v5:i386 conflicts with libllvm3.6:amd64 ?
[23:04] <tgm4883> qdii: I don't believe that is what I said, let me check
[23:05] <tgm4883> qdii: Looks like it's probably libllvm3.6v5 that conflicts with libllvm3.6 across the board
[23:05] <tgm4883> not arch specific
[23:06] <qdii> ok, that makes (some sense), but as a parenthesis could you explain the libgl1-mesa-dri "Breaks" line?
[23:07] <qdii> I feel like aptitude is trying to say something and I have no idea what
[23:07] <qdii> as for libllvm, dpkg indeed indicates that libllvm3.6:i386 is installed
[23:08] <tgm4883> qdii: apparently there is some issue with the package that would break the other package. "Breaks" is something that the package maintainers put in, so for some reason they think that one package would break the other
[23:08] <Guest9243> hi all, any good articles on how to manage network bridging with kvm on ubuntu 15.10
[23:08] <afidegnum> hello, what facial authantication is there available for ubuntu 14.04 ?
[23:08] <Guest9243> ?
[23:08] <tgm4883> qdii: whenever I've used that, I generally use Breaks and Replaces together as I'm moving stuff around and sugh
[23:08] <afidegnum> PAM authentication seems to work with the old versions
[23:09] <myztic> how do I connect in ubuntu (not in command line, but in the file manager) to a server via ssh?
[23:09] <myztic> I remember (I think it was thunar) that this was very easy once
[23:10] <genii> myztic: ssh://username@servername
[23:10] <qdii> myztic: once connected, what do you expect to see? a prompt?
[23:10] <k1l> myztic: nautilus (the gnome filemanager) supports connecting to servers with different protocols
[23:11] <myztic> genii: awesome, ty
[23:11] <myztic> the syntax was different than I thought
[23:11] <slidinghorn> afidegnum: there was a PPA a while back that worked, but it hasn't been updated in years...last supported version was Oneiric
[23:12] <afidegnum> slidinghorn: that's hte issue ia m facing
[23:12] <afidegnum> is that the only facial authentication tool available?
[23:15] <tgm4883> afidegnum: I've not heard of any others
[23:15] <tgm4883> facial authentication seems like a bad idea to me
[23:16] <afidegnum> well, not for strict authentication, per say, for example getting to sudo via facial auth, instead of repeatedly typing password
[23:17] <tgm4883> afidegnum: one might argue that is worse than just getting into the computer with your face
[23:18] <genii> If you have a photo of yourself on your desk anyone could use it to get in
[23:18] <tgm4883> afidegnum: IMO tweaking the sudo timeout would be a better solution
[23:19] <tgm4883> genii: +1
[23:19] <MiningMarsh> The biggest issue with stuff like facial recognition is false positives
[23:19] <MiningMarsh> find someone with a mostly similair face and you are screwed
[23:19] <tgm4883> MiningMarsh: or someone with a halfway decent camera and a printer
[23:19] <afidegnum> sorry iidn't get the last message
[23:19] <afidegnum> do you have a log?
[23:20] <tgm4883> afidegnum: the biggest problem with facial recognition for  your password is that it's public information
[23:20] <MiningMarsh> tgm4883: or if they are desperate, just grab your laptop and run straight up to you
[23:20] <afidegnum> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[23:21] <afidegnum> that's crazy
[23:21] <tgm4883> MiningMarsh: although facial recognition would defeat this sort of hackery https://xkcd.com/538/ (provided they hit you in the face)
[23:22] <afidegnum> well, i remember the issue of German Chancelor where her fingerprint was recognized from a distance,
[23:22] <tgm4883> afidegnum: which part? If they have your laptop it would be pretty easy for them to defeat the facial recognition
[23:22] <tgm4883> afidegnum: from a photo IIRC
[23:22] <tgm4883> afidegnum: which is generally the issue with biometrics, it's pretty much public information
[23:22] <afidegnum> yes, i see the point now,
[23:23] <tgm4883> afidegnum: and thus, should not be used as  a password
[23:29] <Bassem> can i change the place of the x button from left to right?
[23:30] <k1l> Bassem: not on unity
[23:30] <neonixcoder> Good day team..
[23:31] <OerHeks> Bassem, No, it is hardcoded, even unity-tweak does not work
[23:31] <neonixcoder> I am having issue with my pptp vpn connection issue..
[23:31] <Bassem> can i change the clock to bottom
[23:32] <k1l> Bassem: no.
[23:32] <OerHeks> Kubuntu has that
[23:33] <myztic> one of those fancy flashy unnecessary and insecure things
[23:33] <myztic> (facial recognition I mean)
[23:33] <Bassem> how can i add a third party repository to keep youtube-dl updated
[23:33] <neonixcoder> Can any one through some light on issue I am facing http://pastebin.com/xmUsQ1gN
[23:33] <k1l> Bassem: use another desktop then. like xubuntu or lubuntu or kubuntu, or ubuntu mate....
[23:33] <neonixcoder> My VPN is connected after multiple tries, I am  not sure what is happening..
[23:34] <neonixcoder> I check GRP packets flow with tcpdump, which is working fine.
[23:34] <Bassem> k1l, can i use it on ubuntu?
[23:34] <neonixcoder> Any suggetions?
[23:34] <k1l> Bassem: yes, you can install those other desktops ontop of ubuntu
[23:35] <tlt> Bassem, yeah you can migrate to KDE, etc, from an ordinary Ubuntu installation.
[23:35] <Bassem> how can i select the desktop i like and how can i migrate it
[23:37] <k1l> Bassem: install the *-desktop package you like and switch on the login screen
[23:37] <OerHeks> i would install any desktop side-by-side, not mixing software and home and such. to get the best experience.
[23:38] <Bassem> k1l, how?
[23:39] <k1l> Bassem: which desktop do you want to install?
[23:40] <Bassem> dont know where can i find desktop distribution to select
[23:40] <k1l> Bassem: first you need to know which desktop you would like to install
[23:41] <k1l> Bassem: ubuntu offers nearly all desktops available for linux
[23:41] <Bassem> k1l, how where can i look for different desktop
[23:41] <Guest30_> Hi
[23:41] <k1l> Bassem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-kinds-of-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[23:42] <OerHeks> !desktop
[23:58] <winb> Hi guys, I am having problem upgrading adb version to 1.0.32. Anyone know?


[01:05]  * Nafai nods
[01:06] <Nafai> So I'm looking at #533775
[01:07] <Nafai> It doesn't use the correct icon for the gnome-typing-monitor when falling back to the GtkStatusIcon
[01:07] <Nafai> My hunch, after reading through the libappindicator code is that when using the GtkStatusIcon, it doesn't set up the icon path if app_indicator_new_with_path was used, and so the status icon can't find the icon
[01:08] <Nafai> Just wondering how to fix this
[08:42] <vish> hyperair: it does affect all themes ;)   if you set the panel image or alter transparency of the panel you will notice it in those themes as well
[08:43] <hyperair> vish: eh no.
[08:43] <hyperair> lemme just upload a screenshot.
[08:44] <hyperair> http://people.ubuntu.com/~hyperair/banshee-icon-ok.png
[08:47] <vish> hyperair: try panel at normal size , i notice it is affected there
[08:47] <vish> in vlc atleast
[08:47] <hyperair> vish: it isn't.
[08:47] <hyperair> it isn't in banshee, at least =\
[08:47] <hyperair> i think banshee's implementation uses the argb colour map if available
[08:47] <vish> hyperair: do you have vlc installed?  i affects vlc
[08:47] <vish> it*
[08:48] <hyperair> hmm
[08:51] <vish> hyperair: http://imagebin.ca/popup/3msg58C.html
[08:51] <vish> hyperair: hmm,  how to upload to people.ubuntu?
[08:51] <hyperair> sftp
[08:58] <vish> hyperair: btw , murrine in lucid is from git
[08:59] <hyperair> vish: yes, i figured so.
[08:59] <hyperair> vish: do any of lucid's themes use murrine?
[08:59] <vish> hyperair: yes , all the bugs are from murrine engines :(  light-theme , dark-room , dust
[09:00] <hyperair> bah weird
[09:00] <hyperair> even the banshee ones?
[09:00] <hyperair> then why does banshee's icon look fine in karmic using murrine from git?
[09:01] <vish> hyperair: but your banshee bugs are from lucid users , not sure what you have done to fix it in your install  ;)
[09:02] <hyperair> i haven't done anything!
[09:05] <seb128> vish, I doubt gnome-panel code changed a lot this cycle
[09:05] <seb128> I didn't read all the bug comments but I don't think it's a gnome-panel issue
[09:05] <vish> seb128: it has been a bug for a long time , since early karmic aplha
[09:05] <vish> alpha*
[09:06] <mdc_work> vish, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/46846 - fixed :D
[09:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 46846 in nautilus (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Emblems get cut when scaled to a zoom >= 150% (refresh issue) (affects: 13) (dups: 4) (heat: 114)" [Low,Triaged]
[09:07] <seb128> vish, so it's not a new bug in lucid
[09:07] <seb128> vish, is that an issue only if you set a background image?
[09:08] <seb128> mdc_work, nice
[09:08] <seb128> mdc_work, I will backport the git changes to lucid
[09:08] <vish> seb128: yeah , not a new bug ,  only if the themes set a background image , it is a problem , the bg_color is used by the panel instead of using the image.. also happens when an image is set in the panel properties
[09:08] <vish> mdc_work: neat!
[09:08] <seb128> vish, ok
[09:09] <vish> mdc_work: probably would be easier for seb128 if you mention the list of bugs you've fixed , would be easier for him  :)
[09:10] <seb128> I'm subscribed to the nautilus list
[09:10] <seb128> I will just backport the ones alex reviewed and commited for now
[09:43] <mdc_work> seb128, great :)
[09:44] <mdc_work> seb128, you're welcome to comment on the other bugs aswell :)
[09:44] <seb128> let's see if I've free slots for those
[09:44] <mdc_work> seb128, do you have any other *smaller* bugs you'd think would be worth to fix?
[09:45] <seb128> on nautilus?
[09:45] <mdc_work> yes
[09:45] <seb128> not especially offhand right now
[09:45] <seb128> but I guess any crash bug on the list would be worth fixing ;-)
[09:47] <mdc_work> as long as it's clear how to reproduce them it should be fairly easy to fix 'em
[18:47] <hyperair> vish: http://people.ubuntu.com/~hyperair/vlc-icon-ok.png
[18:47] <hyperair> vish: maybe it's a lucid regression?
[19:55] <vish> hyperair: i get a 404
[19:55] <hyperair> heh?
[19:55] <hyperair> weird
[19:56] <vish> hyperair: btw , its been there for a long time , this problem also exists in open suse http://www.flickr.com/photos/92826085@N00/4500093647/sizes/o/
[19:57] <hyperair> vish: okay try again
[19:57] <vish> weird..
[19:57] <hyperair> i think there are a set of conditions for it to occur
[19:57] <hyperair> we just don't fully know that set yet
[19:57] <vish> hyperair: does the vlc problem appear at normal size panel?
[19:58] <hyperair> no
[19:58] <hyperair> not at all
[19:58] <hyperair> everything is fine here
[19:58] <vish> i'v seen that error in suse for more that 6months , and i have had the problem longer , since karmic and earlier , iirc
[19:58] <vish> earlier in the sense , alphas
[19:58]  * hyperair shrugs
[19:58] <hyperair> i haven't had issues with my banshee icon for ages now
[19:58] <hyperair> i remember having the issue for quite some time though
[19:59] <vish> hyperair: i think the notification area is just scared of you ;p  ..
[19:59] <hyperair> heheheh
[20:00] <hyperair> now if only the application indicators would get scared of me and magically sprout tooltips =D
[20:00]  * vish keeping finders crossed for wgrant's fix ;)
[20:00] <hyperair> me too =p


[15:00] <barry> #startmeeting
[15:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 09:00. The chair is barry.
[15:00] <barry> welcome to this week's ameu reviewer's meeting.  who's here today?
[15:00] <BjornT> me
[15:00] <EdwinGrubbs> me
[15:00] <bac> me
[15:00] <barry> deryck sends his apologies
[15:01] <salgado> me
[15:01] <abentley> me
[15:01] <adeuring> me
[15:01] <intellectronica> me
[15:02] <sinzui> me
[15:02] <barry> jtv: ping
[15:02] <flacoste> me
[15:02] <jtv> me
[15:02] <barry> leonardr: ping
[15:02] <jtv> barry: thanks :)
[15:02] <barry> :)
[15:02] <bigjools> me
[15:02] <barry> cprov, gary_poster, gmb, noodles775 ping
[15:03] <noodles775> me
[15:03] <gary_poster> me, sorry
[15:03] <cprov> me
[15:03] <leonardr> me
[15:03] <gmb> barry: OTP at the moment; apologies are on the schedule.
[15:03] <gary_poster> :-)
[15:03]  * barry reloads the page
[15:03] <gary_poster> lol
[15:03] <barry> gmb: are you sure you committed your draft? :)
[15:04] <barry> danilos, allenap, rockstar ping
[15:04] <danilos> me
[15:04] <allenap> me
[15:05] <barry> [TOPIC] agenda
[15:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  agenda
[15:05] <barry>  * Roll call
[15:05] <barry>  * Action items
[15:05] <barry>  * Mentoring update
[15:05] <barry>  * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda)
[15:05] <barry>
[15:06] <barry> [TOPIC] action items
[15:06] <MootBot> New Topic:  action items
[15:06] <barry>  * intellectronica to report on relevant summary of ui reviewers meeting here
[15:06] <barry> intellectronica: tell us some good news!
[15:07] <intellectronica> i think there has been some kind of misunderstanding
[15:07] <intellectronica> there aren't really any ui reviewers meetings
[15:07] <barry> intellectronica: ui phone call maybe?
[15:08] <intellectronica> i suppose the most interesting thing i can tell you is that martin is planning on beefing up the guidelines and in particular, start collecting case reports for interesting branches that went through ui review
[15:08] <intellectronica> so if you're working on a ui branch from either side and think the process was interesting and other can learn from it, consider compiling a case report
[15:09] <beuno> yes
[15:09] <intellectronica> oh, we should have talked about a million dollars
[15:09] <barry> :)
[15:09] <barry> beuno: intellectronica was giving us a summary of the ui call
 i suppose the most interesting thing i can tell you is that
[15:09] <barry>                  martin is planning on beefing up the guidelines and in
[15:09] <barry>                  particular, start collecting case reports for interesting
[15:09] <barry>                  branches that went through ui review  [10:08]
 so if you're working on a ui branch from either side and
[15:10] <barry>                  think the process was interesting and other can learn from
[15:10] <barry>                  it, consider compiling a case report
[15:10] <barry>
[15:10] <barry> intellectronica: thanks; beuno do you have anything you want to add?
[15:10] <beuno> well
[15:10] <beuno> my goal is for the team to do it's own reviews
[15:11] <beuno> and have teh UX team help with the long-term changes
[15:11] <beuno> and I'm not sure how to get there, but I'm starting to
[15:11] <barry> one other thing we talked about was adding a 'ui' specialty to ReviewerSchedule for people who have graduated from ui mentat
[15:12] <beuno> so if anyone has suggestions, ideas, comments, anything, I'd be very grateful
[15:12] <beuno> yes, it's on my ToDo
[15:12] <barry> beuno: cool, thanks
[15:12] <barry> beuno: do you want to join this meeting regularly?  i could add 'ui reviewer report' to the agenda
[15:13] <beuno> barry, I would like to try, yes
[15:13]  * barry will be pingmaster :)
[15:13] <barry> beuno: awesome, thanks.  i'll remove intellectronica's action item then
[15:14] <barry> anything else on ui reviewing, from anybody?
[15:14] <barry> cool, moving on
[15:14] <barry> [TOPIC] mentoring update
[15:14] <MootBot> New Topic:  mentoring update
[15:15] <barry> i think i'll remove this topic for now.  when wgrant wants to become a reviewer we can add it back
[15:15] <intellectronica> aren't we all reviewing now? i think this item can be skipped until some community members start reviewing
[15:15] <barry> [TOPIC] peanut gallery
[15:15] <MootBot> New Topic:  peanut gallery
[15:15] <barry> intellectronica: yes, we are all reviewers!
[15:15] <barry> so, does anybody have anything not on the agenda?
[15:16] <intellectronica> yes
[15:16] <barry> i guess that's it then!
[15:16] <intellectronica> almost :)
[15:17] <barry> intellectronica: go4it
[15:17] <gary_poster> barry: (I'm not going to be OCR on Wednesday because of team lead duties)
[15:17] <gary_poster> 6 mo. :-)
[15:17] <intellectronica> a reminder to everyone that python branches with a diff > 800 lines and javascript branches with a diff > 1600 lines are exceptional, and need to have a review sorted in advance. OCRs will often not be able to take them just like that
[15:18] <barry> gary_poster: gotcha.  EdwinGrubbs will have to carry the west
[15:18] <gary_poster> k
[15:18] <barry> intellectronica: thanks, and remember as a reviewer you always have a right to kick the branch back
[15:19] <barry> anything else today?
[15:19] <barry> 5
[15:19]  * cprov feels guilty and hides.
[15:19] <barry> 4
[15:19] <barry> 3
[15:19] <barry> 2
[15:19] <barry> 1
[15:19] <barry> #endmeeting
[15:19] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 09:19.
[15:19] <barry> thanks everyone!
[15:20] <jtv> thanks barry
[15:20] <gary_poster> thanks barry
[15:20] <intellectronica> thanks barry
[23:30] <barry> #startmeeting
[23:30] <MootBot> Meeting started at 17:30. The chair is barry.
[23:30] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[23:30] <barry> hello and welcome to this week's asiapac meeting, who's here today?
[23:31] <barry> thumper, rockstar ping
[23:31] <thumper> hey
[23:32] <barry> thumper: hi.  i think it's just the three of us today, right?
[23:32] <barry> should be a quick meeting i think
[23:32] <thumper> yep, although rockstar is out for a walk right now, so maybe just me
[23:32] <thumper> did rockstar go to the earlier one?
[23:32] <barry> nope, he's joining us now
[23:33] <barry> s'okay, we can start (and maybe finish without him :)
[23:33] <thumper> ok
[23:33] <barry> not much to report from ameu; gary_poster will suspend ocr duties while he fills in for flacoste, who's filling in for kiko
[23:33]  * thumper nods
[23:33] <barry> that's really about it.  got anything on your mind today?
[23:34]  * thumper thinks
[23:34] <thumper> mainly just 3.0 redesign
[23:34] <thumper> although...
[23:34] <thumper> there was a question earlier by gmb
[23:34] <thumper> about "do mechanical 3.0 changes need a ui review"
[23:34] <thumper> I was under the impression that mechanical ones don't
[23:35] <thumper> new pages/designs do
[23:35] <barry> those are up to the reviewer+dev.  if they feel it doesn't need another ui review, they're fine
[23:35] <thumper> ok
[23:35] <thumper> that's it for me
[23:35] <wgrant> One thing...
[23:35] <wgrant> Not sure where is appropriate, though.
[23:35] <thumper> shoot
[23:36] <thumper> ask away
[23:37] <wgrant> It seems to me that contributors should always get a reviewer from the team that their branch targets, because otherwise the team has no chance to object.
[23:37] <wgrant> The dev wiki just says to poke an OCR, but that probably often isn't right.
[23:37] <thumper> wgrant: I think it depends on the change
[23:37] <barry> wgrant: that should be okayedin a pre-imp call, likely with a team member
[23:38] <thumper> wgrant: if it is something trivial, then I'd be happy to OK a bugs or soyuz change
[23:38] <barry> we're all /supposed/ to be be able to review anything
[23:38] <thumper> but if it is not trivial, or requires more specialised knowledge
[23:38] <thumper> I'll pass it on, like I have done
[23:38] <rockstar> oops.
[23:38] <rockstar> Hi
[23:38] <barry> rockstar: hi
[23:38] <barry> thumper: yep
[23:38] <barry> wgrant: does that make sense?
[23:39] <wgrant> barry: It says to do the pre-imp chat with the OCR, but I suppose in most cases they'll just defer to a member of the right team, in which case that's fine.
[23:39] <wgrant> It does.
[23:39] <barry> wgrant: cool, yep
[23:39] <wgrant> Thanks.
[23:40] <barry> wgrant: it's great to see you here, and fantastic to see your branches landing.  how is the processing going for you?
[23:40] <barry> er, process
[23:40] <wgrant> barry: Very well, apart from the opacity of PQM and ec2test.
[23:40] <barry> wgrant: well, at least we feel your pain there too :)
[23:41] <thumper> wgrant: we are wanting to move to LP queues
[23:41] <wgrant> The actual review stuff is fine.
[23:41] <thumper> wgrant: which will make at least that part more visible
[23:41] <wgrant> But after the review, it goes into a black hole and sometimes doesn't appear again.
[23:41] <rockstar> And once we're on queues, tarmac.
[23:41] <barry> rockstar: ftw
[23:41] <thumper> rockstar: maybe ;-)
[23:41] <wgrant> There's also the problem of security branches, but I believe you're working that out elsewhere.
[23:41] <wgrant> That hit me today.
[23:41] <rockstar> thumper, don't toy with my emotions like that...  :)
[23:41] <thumper> I'm supposed to come up with a plan
[23:41] <barry> wgrant: because you can't make private branches?
[23:42] <thumper> but I've not had time right now with the 3.0 stuff
[23:42] <wgrant> barry: Correct.
[23:42] <thumper> we are planning the ability for anyone to be able to have a private branch
[23:42] <thumper> to fix security bugs
[23:42] <wgrant> barry: I got spm to make it private, but then had to go back to him to get it visible to ~launchpad.
[23:42] <thumper> but there are issues about who gets emailed when
[23:42] <wgrant> I'm not a member of ~launchpad, so I can't subscribe them to my private branch.
[23:42] <barry> thumper: would they have to be tied to security bugs?
[23:42] <thumper> barry: possibly
[23:42] <thumper> barry: we are lacking some ui ability
[23:42] <barry> wgrant: yep, that's losa territory
[23:43] <thumper> barry: it may just work, but I'm not convinced, and will have to look at the tests
[23:43] <barry> cool.  rockstar anything on your mind for today?
[23:44] <rockstar> barry, nope, not really.  I think the UI review for mechanical changes thing was the only thing.
[23:44] <barry> if there's nothing else from thumper, wgrant...
[23:44] <wgrant> Is devpad.info going to be public at some point?
[23:44] <thumper> nope
[23:45] <thumper> buildbot is moving
[23:45] <wgrant> It's annoying getting buildbot failures with me in the blamelist, and not being able to actually see what went wrong.
[23:45] <wgrant> Ah.
[23:45] <thumper> wgrant: lpbuildbot.canonical.com
[23:45] <thumper> wgrant: but I'm not sure on the visibility of it
[23:45] <rockstar> It should be public.
[23:46] <wgrant> thumper: Aha!
[23:46] <wgrant> But no, it's not public.
[23:47] <barry> i think we're done...
[23:47] <barry> #endmeeting
[23:47] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 17:47.
[23:47] <thumper> thanks barry
[23:47] <barry> thanks everyone


[16:33] <desiderantes> Hello
[16:34] <desiderantes> is it possible to get the source package used in a ppa?
[17:53] <dobey> desiderantes: they are published and you can download them from the PPA's page on launchpad under "View package details" link, or if you have the deb-src line for the PPA added to your system, apt-get source can pull from there as well
[18:53] <desiderantes> thanks dobey