[01:11] <skmpz> guys .. i have a second disk on my pc.. the os recognises it and its already mounted but i dont have permission to view it .. what should i do ?
[01:11] <scapor> McNutella: open gconf editor and I guess you'll find it there
[01:11] <ompaul> skmpz, so what format is it?
[01:12] <McNutella> scapor: and where on earth is that ?
[01:12] <tmroland> software dissapeard from gnome menu entries in applications on menu bar in System Tools after i upgraded to Daper Drake
[01:12] <tmroland> why
[01:12] <skmpz> ompaul: NTFS
[01:12] <picur> you years old?
[01:12] <scapor> McNutella: press Alt-F2
[01:12] <ompaul> !tell skmpz about ntfs
[01:12] <scapor> type gconf-editor and press enter
[01:12] <ompaul> skmpz, read the message from the bot
[01:13] <McNutella> scapor: cheers
[01:13] <ompaul> picur, we do not ask that question here or others like it
[01:13] <picur> ja biztos
[01:13] <McNutella> scapor: part of nautilus I guess?
[01:13] <skmpz> ompaul: the disk is already mounted man .. but i want to have permission to use it not only as root .. but as a user too....
[01:13] <scapor> McNutella: I think metacity
[01:14] <scapor> McNutella: I'm not sure the settig IS in there but I just guess so ;)
[01:14] <crazy_penguin> picur: gyere az ubuntu-hu chanra
[01:14] <picur> ok
[01:14] <McNutella> its a good enough guess for me scapor :) Ill throw the pointer about and see
[01:15] <picur> de nekem j ez itt
[01:15] <crazy_penguin> picur: if that's you want. ha az amit akarsz ok
[01:15] <apokryphos> English only in here guys
[01:15] <crazy_penguin> sorry
[01:15] <picur> ok
[01:15] <ompaul> skmpz, okay you can read from it don't write to it add the is to your fstab    /dev/whatever /whatever ntfs r,user  0 0 << if you try to write you will break it
[01:15] <crazy_penguin> i wrote in both so everyone can understand
[01:16] <crazy_penguin> imean in hungarian and english. sorry again:)
[01:16] <ompaul> apokryphos, my fault, I asked him to help the picur ;-)
[01:16] <Techno_2> Should I select modules or individually?
[01:16] <jorisslob> Gives us all an opportunity to learn Hungarian in the process
[01:16] <picur> what?
[01:17] <sss> Hello everyone.I am a new user of Ubuntu.  I am from Japen.I  My Openoffice suit doesn't work any longer after I installed the ATI driver fglrx. How can I mend this problem?
[01:18] <lucas> !server
[01:18] <picur> japan?
[01:18] <picur> vo
[01:18] <sss> Yes!
[01:18] <skmpz> ompaul: i only want to READ from it .. but i CANT :S
[01:19] <ompaul> skmpz, when you do that command you should be able to write in a terminal  "sudo mount -a" and not have a problem
[01:19] <sss> Hello everyone.I am a new user of Ubuntu.  I am from Japen.  My Openoffice suit doesn't work any longer after I installed the ATI driver fglrx. How can I mend this problem?
[01:19] <Evanescent> #j #elitesabbers
[01:19] <skmpz> ompaul: can u tell me exactly what should i write ?
[01:21] <Draccy> taking this machine offline temporarily.
[01:21] <ompaul> skmpz, yes but I need more information paste the output of these commands >>mount<< >>cat /etc/fstab<< in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:21] <tubbie> ddr2 ram sticks are cheaper :9
[01:21] <tubbie> :(
[01:22] <skmpz> ompaul: can i private message you ?
[01:22] <ompaul> skmpz, you can but I need that info
[01:22] <picur> tuby your now to by=lenni vagy nem lenni(remlem jl rtam mert ha nem ez van)
[01:25] <chaos_of_apocaly> what prog. can i install to decompress rar archives??
[01:25] <treeroot> rar, chaos_of_apocaly
[01:25] <Techno_2> Is NTFS writign support stable?
[01:25] <chaos_of_apocaly> rar
[01:26] <treeroot> yes, that is what the program is called, chaos_of_apocaly
[01:26] <chaos_of_apocaly> is it in synaptic?
[01:26] <treeroot> should be
[01:26] <chaos_of_apocaly> ok
[01:26] <chaos_of_apocaly> thanks
[01:27] <dmizer> can anyone tell me what command i enter to determine what my video card is?
[01:27] <bzerodi> hi. can someone tell me how to recreate the initrd after a kernel recompile ?
[01:27] <Techno_2> bzerodi: I got todl you didn't need it
[01:27] <AeGertea> bonjour tout le monde
[01:27] <roryy> for decompressing rars, you might want unrar or unrar-nonfree
[01:27] <treeroot> bonjour, AeGertea
[01:27] <bzerodi> Techno_2: hmm. so things would work without initrd ?
[01:28] <AeGertea> C'est un newbie qui vous parle
[01:28] <bzerodi> dmizer: lspci
[01:28] <Hobbsee> !fr
[01:28] <bzerodi> dmizer: and look for 'VGA' or something
[01:28] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:28] <KenSentMe> AeGertea: please talk english in this channel
[01:28] <KenSentMe> !fr
[01:28] <Techno_2> Allors, ubunutu est un anglais chat
[01:28] <AeGertea> my english is very bad
[01:28] <dmizer> bzerodi ... thank you kindly.
[01:28] <Techno_2> So's mine :P  (And it's my native language)
[01:29] <ompaul> AeGertea, use the channel     #ubuntu-fr, join it        /join #ubuntu-fr
[01:29] <Techno_2> Bzerodi: Well I'm not sure, I recompiled it and couldn't find intrid, so I just removed it. However, it wouldn't boot, but I got todl you didn't need it
[01:29] <Techno_2> So overall, I have no idea :P
[01:30] <AeGertea> je voulais savoir si il y avait la possibiliter de voir les peripherique qui seront reconnue en plus sur la version prochaine beta ?
[01:30] <AeGertea> car mon vieu portable le son nest pas detecter ni la cg
[01:30] <Techno_2> AeGertea: Ils ne peux pas le francais ici, allez: #ubuntu-fr
[01:31] <bzerodi> Techno_2: tried it now; I just used the prepackaged .config and (I hope) ext3 was built as a module because it didn't mount root
[01:31] <tubbie> can a mobo support DDR1 and DDR2?
[01:31] <Techno_2> bzerodi: I'll try that
[01:33] <Techno_2> bzerodi: Did it work?
[01:33] <bzerodi> Techno_2: I'm compiling with ext3 built in. Hope this will do it
[01:34] <Techno_2> Ah ok :)
[01:34] <ompaul> AeGertea, Parle anglais, si vous plait d'acort      or   /join #ubuntu-fr
[01:34] <BWF89> Does anyone know when the official Xubuntu ISO files are going to be released?
[01:34] <Techno_2> bzerodi: I've changed the settigns accordingly, we'll see what happens
[01:36] <andrejkw> Hiya guys
[01:38] <andrejkw> Why doesn't mozplugger associate itself with wav files in FireFox? When I do "about:plugins", everything else shows up except WAV. There is however a WAV entry in /etc/mozpluggerrc.
[01:40] <crazy_penguin> ompaul: did you look at the small movie clip with nelson mandela explaining the various aspects of ubuntu concept in the example package?
[01:41] <andrejkw> Can someone please help? This is driving me nuts.
[01:42] <ompaul> crazy_penguin, no -- I am about to power up the notebook and its all your fault ;-)
[01:42] <crazy_penguin> why?
[01:42] <crazy_penguin> what did i do?
[01:43] <andrejkw> Why doesn't mozplugger associate itself with wav files in FireFox? When I do "about:plugins", everything else shows up except WAV. There is however a WAV entry in /etc/mozpluggerrc.
[01:43] <ompaul> crazy_penguin, your question ;-)
[01:43] <BWF89> Is anyone else useing jIRCii?
[01:43] <crazy_penguin> sorry
[01:43] <ompaul> crazy_penguin, it is not a bad thing
[01:43] <Hexidigital> is anyone (running 2 different machines) notice a delay with certain packages in the updates?  (not a support issue, everything works... just curiosity)
[01:43] <ompaul> crazy_penguin, mind if I message you?
[01:43] <crazy_penguin> no
[01:43] <crazy_penguin> go ahead
[01:43] <bzerodi> btw, can that clip be had from somewhere on the net
[01:43] <bzerodi> ?
[01:44] <crazy_penguin> bzerodi: that was for me?
[01:44] <bzerodi> yes
[01:45] <crazy_penguin> it's in the example package installed by ubuntu
[01:47] <bzerodi> crazy_penguin: would that be 'example-content' ? If so, I don't see the movie on http://foodfight.org/movies/Ubuntu%20Fanpeople/
[01:48] <crazy_penguin> one sec
[01:48] <andrejkw> Anyone, please?
[01:49] <rekrutacja_> i have problems running wifi card (3com 3CRSHPW196, atmel chip), is there anyone tp help me?
[01:49] <crazy_penguin> bzerodi: sorry. my mistake i forgot to say that is in dapper not breezy
[01:49] <picur> haho
[01:50] <andrejkw> Why doesn't mozplugger associate itself with wav files in FireFox? When I do "about:plugins", everything else shows up except WAV. There is however a WAV entry in /etc/mozpluggerrc.
[01:50] <pavlix> hi
[01:50] <picur> hi
[01:50] <picur> i speak litter iglish
[01:50] <Jude> Anyone have any idea how to fix a broken mysql installation?
[01:50] <bzerodi> crazy_penguin: I'm using dapper. I looked on packages.ubuntu.com and apparently the package isn't in dapper (yet?)
[01:50] <crazy_penguin> bzerodi: and yes the package's name is example-content
[01:51] <bzerodi> crazy_penguin: anyway .. nevermind, sorry for the trouble
[01:51] <crazy_penguin> np
[01:51] <pavlix> I am going to install ubuntu from a unix system, using debootstrap... where can I find the docs for it?
[01:51] <picur> and you?
[01:51] <Hexidigital_> picur:: there should be a room for your language.. what language?
[01:51] <ompaul> !chroot
[01:51] <ubotu> chroot is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[01:51] <crazy_penguin> bzerodi: try apt-get install example-content
[01:51] <ompaul> picur, this is a "support" channel, it is not for chat, it is ubuntu specific
[01:51] <bzerodi> crazy_penguin: not found :)
[01:52] <pavlix> ompaul: nice...
[01:52] <picur> istenem
[01:52] <crazy_penguin> strange
[01:52] <bzerodi> crazy_penguin: nevermind. I sould be getting on with more important things
[01:52] <crazy_penguin> ok
[01:52] <crazy_penguin> bzerodi: sorry. :)
[01:52] <pavlix> ompaul: thanks, I hope it goes well :-)
[01:53] <Jude> I'm actually trying to completely uninstall mysql from a hoary installation... any ideas where I should look for a doc, etc?
[01:53] <ompaul> pavlix, it just might do ;-)
[01:53] <picur> aha
[01:53] <ompaul> jude sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql*
[01:53] <andrejkw> Why doesn't mozplugger associate itself with wav files in FireFox? When I do "about:plugins", everything else shows up except WAV. There is however a WAV entry in /etc/mozpluggerrc.
[01:53] <picur> nekem 8
[01:54] <Jude> ompaul: :) I'm pretty sure I tried that before, but I'll give it another go. Thanks!
[01:54] <Hexidigital_> hehe... everytime they update the ubuntu-artwork package, my OpenOffice icon on my toolbar changes... and i am confused...
[01:54] <Hexidigital_> ompaul:: do you know if bcm43xx is supported for dapper only, or breezy also?
[01:54] <picur> egy krds!
[01:54] <ompaul> Hexidigital_, I know nothing ;-) [no idea]
[01:55] <andrejkw> Hexidigital_: use ndiswrapper
[01:55] <picur> tud valaki magyarul?
[01:55] <Hexidigital_> :) ok... i may have found a bug
[01:55] <Hexidigital_> no
[01:55] <strapal> igen
[01:55] <Hexidigital_> it works, andrejkw
[01:55] <Hexidigital_> i figured it out
[01:55] <Jude> Also, hoary != breezy. Anyway, thanks for that, ompaul. :)
[01:55] <ompaul> Jude, that command should work on both
[01:56] <ompaul> Jude, in fact that command should work on debian and ubuntu any version
[01:56] <Jude> ompaul: :D! I was just pointing out my mistake. I can never remember what I'm currently using.
[01:56] <andrejkw> Why doesn't mozplugger associate itself with wav files in FireFox? When I do "about:plugins", everything else shows up except WAV. There is however a WAV entry in /etc/mozpluggerrc.
[01:56] <ompaul> Jude, lsb_release -d will tell you
[01:57] <Jude> Obviously there'd be a handy command for it :D
[01:57] <Draconicus> Can somebody here help me with NFS?
[01:57] <ompaul> !nfs
[01:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:58] <ompaul> Draconicus, I guess ^^^ might help you ;-)
[01:59] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone here help me with configuring X? I need the protocol "evdev" for my mouse, yet X complains it can't find it.
[02:00] <arcade> Draconicus: What exactly do you need help with, with NFS?
[02:00] <arcade> Draconicus: if it's something difficult, ask.  If it's just regular "how do I set up blahdiblah", refer to google and howtos ;)
[02:00] <pianoboy3333> !evdev
[02:00] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pianoboy3333
[02:01] <bakaa> yo
[02:01] <Jude> ompaul: Thanks for your help... looks like that didn't do the trick, though. It won't stop the server... bha. Oh well, guess I'll just format and try again :)
[02:01] <ompaul> Jude, do this
[02:01] <ompaul> Jude, sudo /etc/init.d/my(tab) stop
[02:01] <Draconicus> arcade: Alright. Here's a question the wiki can't immediately answer: Is NFS fairly quick and simple to set up for somebody experienced with things like Samba?
[02:02] <ompaul> Jude, you asked how to remove so I took it that you had it stopped ;-)
[02:02] <Jude> ompaul: Well, it said it had stopped :)
[02:02] <Jude> ompaul: And there is apparently nothing my-related in init.d. Ack.
[02:02] <ompaul> Draconicus, did you read the server set up page?
[02:02] <arcade> Draconicus: Well, the terminology is different - but yes.
[02:02] <Hexidigital_> have a good day everybody...
[02:02] <Draconicus> ompaul: I'm reading it now.
[02:03] <arcade> Draconicus: Personally I find samba horribly difficult and filled with pitfalls, while NFS is quick'n simple
[02:03] <ompaul> Jude,  reboot and check it out, get dapper in 5 days and be much happier ;-)
[02:03] <Draconicus> arcade: I can set up samba in three minutes or less. What about NFS?
[02:03] <Jude> But then I'll loose my uptime! :( (What uptime? :D)
[02:04] <Jude> Is dapper in five days? I haven't been keeping track.
[02:04] <arcade> Draconicus: I can set up NFS in about 20 seconds ("vi /etc/exports ; /etc/init.d/nfs.server start")
[02:04] <Jude> I have every intention of just formatting a spare PC and installing dapper on that, so I guess I'll wait until then :)
[02:04] <arcade> .. or whatever the 'start' command is in ubuntu :D
[02:04] <Draconicus> arcade: Eww. You use vim? :P
[02:04] <arcade> Draconicus: Of course. :)
[02:04] <prxq> kernel-source is at 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1, while the installed kernel is 2.6.15-23. What gives?
[02:05] <samuel_> what is the latest version of gnome and how do i update ubuntu to it and is it stable
[02:05] <arcade> Draconicus: NFS is _very_ simple to set up.  One thing though, you need to have synchronized UIDs for all clients.
[02:05] <Draconicus> arcade: I can't even figure out how to do a line return in that thing. :P
[02:05] <Draconicus> arcade: I know this. That's no problem.
[02:06] <ompaul> Draconicus, msg me and I will give you a two minute run through in vim that will allow you do a basic edit in it
[02:06] <arcade> Draconicus: Then NFS isn't a problem at all.  It's just /mountpoint   IP(accesscontrol) .. on one line in /etc/exports to share that mountpoint to the ip's..
[02:07] <arcade> Draconicus: for example: /export/home  192.168.0.*(rw,root_squash,async)
[02:07] <arcade> and whoopsidoe, you've shared /export/home to the ip's, with read-write access, root is squashed, and 'async' means that the clients don't hang if the nfs-server is rebooted (but they'll get a stale nfs handle)
[02:08] <ompaul> arcade, whoopsidoe - is that a wiggles reference?
[02:08] <arcade> ompaul: If it was, it got ingrained into my language without me knowing the original reference.
[02:09] <ompaul> arcade, a .au kiddies tv show
[02:09] <arcade> ompaul: Definately a 'nope' then. :)
[02:09] <Jude> ompaul: ompaul == .au? :)
[02:09] <Jude> ompaul: We're going to take over the world, yeah!
[02:10] <captainredbeard> can someone point me in the direction of the best version of doom you can get for ubuntu? One that can be played full screen, with enchanced graphics?
[02:10] <Techno_2> bzerodi, I need to go, talk another time
[02:11] <giuliano> italiani?
[02:11] <DBO> !it
[02:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:11] <giuliano> grazie a te
[02:11] <arcade> Yikes.  I seem to understand a tad italian.
[02:12] <arcade> "parlare" = speak, solo l'inglese = only english..
[02:12] <mla> Hi all
[02:12] <DBO> hi mla
[02:12] <mla> Anybody have an idea about dvd support and totem with gstreamer 0.10 ?
[02:13] <Azrazel> Hey, I upgraded from Breezy to Dapper RC but now it hangs on "waiting for root file system" during bootup. Any ideas of how to fix it?
[02:13] <DBO> mla, dapper drake support is in #ubuntu+1
[02:13] <mla> ok thanks
[02:13] <DBO> Azrazel, same for you
[02:14] <Azrazel> Hmm... everybody seems to be occupied, but thanks anyway ;)
[02:14] <WarOfAttrition> I will avoid upgrading from breezy like the plague
[02:14] <procrastinator> is it a known issue that nautilus wants pmount to mount a drive instead of a partition (like, trying to mount sda instead of sda1)?
[02:15] <ompaul> procrastinator, I have not seen that on any of my boxes server or desktop 5.10 or dapper
[02:16] <ompaul> WarOfAttrition, that is your right, however be aware that 5.10 is not supported in just under a year, and dapper will be supported for more than 18 months
[02:17] <ompaul> WarOfAttrition, dapper 3 years on the desktop and 5 on the server
[02:17] <WarOfAttrition> ompaul|  I mean I will install fresh, not as an upgrade to the breezy install
[02:17] <ompaul> WarOfAttrition, either way back up your home directory before you start
[02:19] <WarOfAttrition> ompaul|  yeah, I am just going to copy my files, the config files I will do over
[02:20] <Evanescent> hi anyone here?
[02:20] <DBO> just us mice
[02:20] <Evanescent> i don't know if anyone can help me
[02:20] <DBO> we wont either until you ask a question =)
[02:21] <neck_> :)
[02:22] <Evanescent> but my ubuntu is showing my max available screen resolutiona as 1024 x 768 but my screen is capabable of 1280 x 1024, how can I change that?
[02:22] <Drac[Server] > What the hell? How am I supposed to use NFS with dynamic IP addresses?! I can't make them all static!
[02:22] <DBO> !fixres
[02:22] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:23] <Evanescent> thanks i'll have a read
[02:23] <Sentenza> hi people
[02:23] <Sentenza> is there a french help channel pliz ?
[02:23] <DBO> Drac[Server] , you cant, NFS servers should have static IP's, you can configure your DHCP server to maintain static IP's
[02:23] <DBO> !fr
[02:23] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:23] <Sentenza> ty
[02:24] <arcade> Drac[Server] : Hm?
[02:24] <DBO> Drac[Server] , the only thing that needs a static IP is the server itself
[02:25] <arcade> Drac[Server] : dynamic addresse?  The only proper way to use NFS is if the NFS-server is on the same network segments as the clients, and then you share for the entire segment.
[02:25] <arcade> I'm sure you can do it in other ways, but NFS isn't a "secure" file sharing protocol :)
[02:26] <DBO> arcade, well according to slashdot, neither is SSH... because if someone else has root on your local box (duh.....)  =P
[02:26] <Subhuman> DBO, dont allow root ssh logins.
[02:27] <DBO> Subhuman, no thats not what they were talking about... but thanks for the tip?  (me doesnt even have root enabled...)
[02:27] <Subhuman> DBO, with ssh i always use it with fail2ban, stops most ssh/apache/ftp attacks.
[02:27] <crazy_penguin> has anybody any sugestion how to demux an avi file so that i can record/remove  the sound? what program could i use
[02:29] <WarOfAttrition> crazy_penguin|  native linux I dont, but I can say maybe try using wine. not sure if virtualdubmod will work there, but a while back that's what I used
[02:30] <crazy_penguin> Subhuman: excuse me for intruding. what is fail2ban?
[02:30] <crazy_penguin> WarOfAttrition: thx
[02:30] <DBO> it bans IP's that fail too many authentications
[02:30] <crazy_penguin> i will try it
[02:30] <crazy_penguin> DBO: oh. thx
[02:31] <DBO> which isnt really needed with SSH since you should be using a public key setup, not password
[02:31] <T`> anyone know if ubuntu will be moving to newer kernel?
[02:31] <T`> 2.6.17 or so?
[02:32] <Subhuman> DBO, but the idea with ssh is you can access a box remotely, and carrying arround keys all the time is annoying
[02:32] <T`> and when.. perhaps?
[02:32] <Quintok> T`, you can compile the vanilla kernel if you like... as for when ubuntu goes I dunno
[02:32] <T`> dont want to go thru that drama :/
[02:33] <WarOfAttrition> aren't the new kernels buggy?
[02:33] <DBO> Subhuman, there are fairly easy ways to deal with that
[02:33] <DBO> Subhuman, USB keychains being one of them (since you can also put passwords on those keys)
[02:34] <Subhuman> DBO, i know that.
[02:34] <DBO> Subhuman, i know you do... i dont really find it annoying considering how well it negates the effect of a man in the middle attack
[02:35] <Axolotl> Hi! I have a big sproblem, i try to install dapper rc on a new system with a ATI X850 graphic card. The X-server cannot start, so i cannot install. Any help would be appreciated, i am a complete linux noob :-)
[02:35] <Subhuman> but I'm jsut saying if im on holiday i dont want to be a total looser and bring a usb key with me, bad enough im using a secure shell to log in to my linux box you know ;)
[02:35] <DBO> !dapper
[02:35] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[02:35] <Subhuman> i gotta keep SOME social respect :D
[02:35] <Axolotl> ok, thanks :-)
[02:35] <DBO> Subhuman, social respect?  you want social respect?  bring four usb keychains, and wear them all at once... nothing says player like four usb keychains
[02:36] <Quintok> bit of usb bling? I like it.
[02:36] <Subhuman> my usb is already all polished down to make it all metal shiny but still no :P
[02:37] <Subhuman> all my local boxes i use keys, but i keep one box open to the outside world and im keep that password, just makes things easier.
[02:38] <WarOfAttrition> so the dapper release of june 1 is a sure thing now?
[02:39] <DBO> Subhuman, out setup is done such that one workstation has outside access via a key.  That workstation is the ONLY box that has access to the SSH servers on the other machines (controlled at the network layer) as well as using public keys and passphrases
[02:39] <DBO> our*
[02:41] <Subhuman> if your password is good enough and you change it frequently then it isnt an issue
[02:41] <Subhuman> imo anywya
[02:41] <darkteckno> if we already have dapper do we have to reinstall?
[02:41] <zoheb> guys, what the name of JDK package for Ubuntu ?
[02:42] <DBO> Subhuman, password authentication leaves you open to a man in the middle attack
[02:42] <DBO> darkteckno, no
[02:42] <darkteckno> great thanks!
[02:43] <darkteckno> Is there a live version of dapper RC?
[02:43] <DBO> all versions of dapper RC are a live version
[02:43] <Subhuman> true, but is someone THAT desperate to get into my box, that they will find the network im going to conect on, do an ARP attack, then steal my password for a limited access accout?
[02:44] <Subhuman> no, no1 is. so i dont worry about that crap.
[02:44] <darkteckno> thanks DBO
[02:44] <DBO> Subhuman, while the risk is tiny, the implications of such a breach (at least in my case) would be monstrous...  So the precaution is well headed
[02:44] <Quintok> Subhuman, maybe your evil lost long twin?
[02:45] <Subhuman> public/private key encryption is also vulnerable to mitm attacks
[02:45] <Quintok> long lost*
[02:45] <DBO> Subhuman, yes, but only if they can decrypt it... which they cant
[02:45] <Subhuman> I live in the same town as GCHQ "government communication headquaters" (in the UK), a guy came to my school and showed how RSA is vulnerable to mitm
[02:46] <DBO> we use DSA
[02:46] <Subhuman> same principle though.
[02:46] <Subhuman> a public key and private key
[02:47] <DBO> password authentication uses RSA and is at risk, but with public key no unencrypted traffic is ever sent and is not vulnerable
[02:47] <Subhuman> rsa is public key.
[02:48] <DBO> RSA is also used for password authentication
[02:49] <DBO> public key encryptions only mitm attack vector requires decrypting and re-encrypting the key (fast), which is just not do-able with todays computers
[02:49] <Subhuman> i just think it's overkill.
[02:50] <DBO> wait until your job and reputation depends on it =P
[02:50] <Subhuman> i have nothing that secret or illegal, no1 is after me, if they did get access, the ssh account on that box has little or no rights, so meh :P
[02:51] <skip_> help please...I'm trying to log in to XFCE and get an error /bin/sh: /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: No such file or directory
[02:53] <DBO> skip_, are you able to log in via terminal?
[02:53] <skip_> DBO: haven't tried that yet
[02:54] <DBO> skip_, try that and see if you can find out if that file really doesnt exist or if its just a perms issue
[02:54] <skip_> DBO: I can log in via terminal and also via gdm
[02:55] <DBO> skip_, see if you can find the file mentioned in the error?
[02:55] <skip_> DBO: the file doesn't exist...so how do I recover it?
[02:55] <crazy_penguin> Subhuman, DBO: where could i find some good howtos or docs on the exciting subject that you discussed earlier. i also want to set up a small network and i'm surrounded by hacker wanabies ho are trying out their skills on my back? some links/urls please if you have.
[02:55] <skip_> DBO: I've tried clean reinstalling xfce but no luck
[02:55] <TheFez> Anybody know who I can change the notification daemon theme?
[02:55] <DBO> skip_, sudo find / -name xinitrc
[02:56] <Subhuman> !ssh
[02:56] <ubotu> ssh is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[02:56] <Nukeador> hi all
[02:56] <crazy_penguin> thx
[02:56] <crazy_penguin> :)
[02:56] <crazy_penguin> thx a lot:)
[02:56] <Subhuman> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH that link, halfway down is about key authentication
[02:56] <Subhuman> brb
[02:56] <DBO> crazy_penguin, instead of RSA use DSA =)
[02:56] <Nukeador> ive just burn the new rc to a friend and he told me that the cd stop reading after a while in the instalation preccess, any idea?
[02:56] <crazy_penguin> ok
[02:56] <crazy_penguin> i will remember
[02:57] <WarOfAttrition> Nukeador|  faulty burn or drive?
[02:57] <DBO> crazy_penguin, just to avoid confusion, you generate the key on your client machine, and place it on the server (common mistake amoung first timers)
[02:57] <crazy_penguin> ok
[02:57] <crazy_penguin> DBO: thx :)
[02:57] <Nukeador> WarOfAttrition, the thing is that the same happen to me few days ago with other cd perfectly burned
[02:58] <WarOfAttrition> might be the drive then
[02:59] <hav0k> does anyone know anything about ati cards and drivers for linux?
[02:59] <Nukeador> they are 2 drives completelly diferent
[02:59] <DrStrangelove> hey, i am new to dapper drake and i wanted to compile a precomiled module for cisco vpn
[02:59] <DBO> !ati
[02:59] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:59] <DrStrangelove> it works but wehn insmod it tells me:Starting /opt/cisco-vpnclient/bin/vpnclient: insmod: error inserting '/lib/modul es/2.6.15-23-k7/CiscoVPN/cisco_ipsec.ko': -1 Invalid module format
[02:59] <DrStrangelove> Failed (insmod)
[02:59] <DrStrangelove> eny idea?
[02:59] <Quintok> DrStrangelove, join #ubuntu+1
[03:00] <DrStrangelove> thx
[03:01] <gnomnain> do you know how can I know where it hangs exactly ( in which function ) for the bug #46685 ?
[03:02] <_Baal_> I have installed Dapper with XFCE without a login manager on a slow computer.  The problem I am having is that with this setup if I select reboot or shutdown I am taken to a console and it doesn't actually reboot or shutdown.  Does anyone know where the script is that the quit button uses so that I could modify it?
[03:02] <Bilford> do you defrag disks with Linux
[03:03] <DBO> Bilford, no need to, ext3 doesnt fragment like that silly windows stuff
[03:03] <neck_> exactly
[03:03] <Bilford> cool
[03:03] <h3sp4wn> Bilford: You can but you have to downgrade the filesystem to ext2 and only if it is totally necessary
[03:03] <rod> is there are a way to install totem-xine and totem-gstreamer next to eachtother?
[03:04] <ompaul> Bilford, I doubt if your machine ever gets to the point where it needs to be defragged
[03:04] <h3sp4wn> Bilford: e2defrag does it
[03:04] <ompaul> !chroot
[03:04] <ubotu> chroot is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[03:04] <ompaul> rod, ^^^
[03:04] <Bilford> I never defragged   Windows
[03:05] <rod> ompaul, the solution is to chroot?
[03:05] <ompaul> rod, they will not live with each other at all afik
[03:05] <DBO> rod, its a working solution =P
[03:05] <Bilford> seemed like it strained the hard drive to defrag it
[03:05] <rod> omrolf  its a bit much me things
[03:05] <Bilford> so hard drives like Linux better than Windows, right
[03:05] <DBO> Bilford, yes it is a long stream of writing and reading... but it shouldnt really hurt it
[03:05] <rod> im sure it will work though ^^
[03:06] <DBO> Bilford, yes, I suppose linux would be easier on the drives...
[03:06] <ompaul> Bilford, well if you let it run and windows is faster after - or that is how it used ot be
[03:06] <rod> ok any way to play dvd's with gstreamer 0.10 then, with css? the wiki doesnt answer that
[03:06] <ompaul> Ubuntu
[03:06] <DBO> you need the libcss* package
[03:06] <rod> i have that
[03:07] <slew> hi. i have some mp4 video files that worked fine in totem. i got a totem update and now they wont play, it says it cant find a decoder. anyone know what i need to make it work again?
[03:08] <DBO> slew, dapper/
[03:08] <DBO> ?
[03:08] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help me with an xserver problem?
[03:08] <slew> dbo yes
[03:08] <jcmcbeth> Anyone know of a apache channel?
[03:09] <pianoboy3333> jcmcbeth: #apache ?
[03:09] <DBO> slew, dapper is at #ubuntu+1
[03:09] <Bilford> is anyone here not going to upgrade to Dapper
[03:09] <slew> ok, i'll try there.
[03:09] <jcmcbeth> pianoboy3333: it didn't exist when I checked :-/
[03:09] <pianoboy3333> jcmcbeth: what irc client are you using?
[03:10] <Bilford> Im already using Dapper
[03:10] <DBO> Bilford, hard not to do what I already did =P
[03:10] <jcmcbeth> pianoboy3333: x-chat
[03:10] <DBO> Bilford, in general, dapper has a much longer support cycle than bb, and I recommend people upgrade AFTER the final release
[03:10] <pianoboy3333> jcmcbeth: ok, click on where it said #apache when I msged you
[03:10] <pianoboy3333> I think you just misspeled it
[03:10] <Bilford> is anyone here still using Hoary Hedgehog
[03:10] <phex> Hello i've a problem with the live cd
[03:10] <Fracture> is there any official ubuntu artwork for printing on cd's ?
[03:11] <pianoboy3333> DBO: AFTER the release? what's the fun in that?
[03:11] <DBO> pianoboy3333, less tech support...
[03:11] <pianoboy3333> but more fun, blinking screens, crashing X's...
[03:11] <rod> you mean you get less tech support if you install after?
[03:11] <pianoboy3333> no, less if now
[03:12] <phex> hey i've a kernel panic
[03:12] <Bilford> if you install it now, you are the tech support
[03:12] <DBO> rod, no, if you install now I give you little sympathy, it is beta... if you install later thats a final install which means its supposed to work
[03:12] <DBO> phex, what version of ubuntu?
[03:12] <phex> 5.10
[03:12] <DBO> phex, whats the error message?
[03:12] <gholias> Hi guys, Im a new ubuntu user and need some help
[03:12] <DBO> gholias, sure, whats your problem?
[03:13] <gholias> I have 2 networks pci adapters on my pc
[03:13] <gholias> one for cable modem, and another to share conection with other pc
[03:13] <phex> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init
[03:13] <gholias> the one with cable moden is detected and named eth0
[03:13] <DBO> phex, reboot to recovery mode
[03:13] <gholias> the other is detected, but dont is the eth1
[03:14] <rod> DBO, but if i install after you wont give me little but no sympathy?
[03:14] <gholias> how can i associate this card with eth1?
[03:14] <phex> how can i come into the recovery mode?
[03:14] <Bilford> reboot
[03:14] <DBO> rod, if you install after I will tech support you all day long
[03:14] <DBO> phex, there is an entry in GRUB to do that
[03:14] <ompaul> DBO, your call
[03:15] <rod> hehe DBO that's nice of you
[03:15] <rod> but il prolly be running dap +1
[03:15] <rod> ^^
[03:15] <h3sp4wn> gholias: Is there a fixed ip address signed to eth1
[03:15] <DBO> rod, well then, no sympathy =P
[03:15] <rod> lol
[03:15] <gholias> h3sp4wn, theres no eth1
[03:15] <phex> entry if the first boot failure then is there an entry?
[03:15] <Bilford> noo sympathy for the Dapper
[03:16] <DBO> phex, its the second entry in the bootloader
[03:16] <gholias> DBO, did you undestand my problem? my english is poor
[03:16] <DBO> gholias, is there a cable plugged into the second card?
[03:17] <phex> now i've the same problem it'S the ubuntu live cd
[03:17] <h3sp4wn> gholias: open a terminal and run ifconfig -a (to see whether eth1 is listed there)
[03:17] <gholias> DBO,  yes, and the ubuntu show me it at devices manager, but associate with ethx
[03:17] <Bilford> what are most LInux programs?  uncompiled C?
[03:17] <WarOfAttrition> 3 years of support for dapper??? wow
[03:17] <WarOfAttrition> that's probably longer than the rest of my life!
[03:18] <gholias> h3sp4wn, no, just eth0
[03:18] <DBO> gholias, please enter the command "ifconfig" into a terminal and put the output at pastebin
[03:18] <DBO> !pastebin
[03:18] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package]
[03:18] <gholias> dbo ifconfig only shows eth0, not eth1
[03:18] <DBO> gholen, do "sudo ifconfig eth1 up"
[03:19] <phex> hm he have reboot
[03:19] <thmas> i am not able to log in again. it there any known bug?
[03:19] <gholias> DBO, root@servidor:~# ifconfig eth1 up
[03:19] <gholias> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:19] <phex> and now i've the same problem
[03:19] <brainlessbob> How do I open a directory with space in the name with terminal?
[03:19] <DBO> gholen, put your kernel log in pastebin please
[03:20] <gholias> dbo how can i do this?
[03:20] <Draconicus> brainlessbob: Put a \ before a space or an unusual character.
[03:20] <Desh> Does anyone know how I can change my DPI on KDE?
[03:20] <DBO> brainlessbob, put the path in quotes
[03:20] <prxq> hi. How can I get the sources of the kernel that ships with dapper?
[03:20] <brainlessbob> thanks :D
[03:20] <phex> i mean has the kernel panic some boot something to do with the boot cd?
[03:20] <gholen> DBO:  Done, it does work now, but the interface name is rausb0, and yes, I have a wireless connection, thank you everyone!
[03:20] <prxq> i mean the patched one, not the plain vanilla sources
[03:20] <phex> talk i to walls?
[03:20] <phex> -.-'
[03:20] <DBO> gholen, i didnt mean to talk to you, was a mistake =P
[03:20] <gholias> gholen != gholias :)
[03:21] <Draconicus> brainlessbob: Quotes work, but they aren't as practical. Putting a backslash will do the trick: blah/blah place/spaced stuff/ = blah/blah\ place/spaced stuff/. Also, tab completion is your best friend.
[03:21] <phex> he DBO
[03:21] <DBO> gholias, "gedit /var/log/kernel" and put that in pastebin
[03:21] <gholen> gholias: Nice nick!
[03:21] <DBO> phexyou need to be a little patient
[03:21] <gholias> gholen you too
[03:21] <phex> ok ok
[03:21] <podge> david and gholias
[03:21] <DBO> phex, so even when you select recovery mode you still get a kernel panic?
[03:21] <thmas> i am not able to log in again. it there any known bug?
[03:21] <gholen> gholias: I know ^^
[03:22] <DBO> thmas, can you log in at VT?
[03:22] <thmas> what is VT ?
[03:22] <Jeldert> hi guys (and girls)
[03:23] <gholias> DBO, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14729
[03:23] <gnomnain> thmas: try Ctrl+Alt+F1 and log in
[03:23] <ompaul> Jeldert, hi people
[03:23] <Jeldert> I want to share date between Linux and Windows (on the same machine). All my music and movies are on a 100GB NTFS partition, but I cannot write to it from Ubuntu. What filesystem do you recommend?
[03:24] <ompaul> Jeldert, get some of that space and make it vfat
[03:24] <Jeldert> I tried a ext3 reader/writer for Windows XP, but it slowed my machine down
[03:24] <gnomnain> Jeldert: use vfat
[03:24] <podge> Jeldert: Which way? Windows to Linux or Linux to Windows?
[03:24] <Subhuman> Jeldert, IFSDrives is a good ext3 driver for windows
[03:24] <jhenn> is it possible to install without enabling 'restricted copyright'?
[03:25] <Jeldert> podge, I want to keep dual-boot (for gaming), but also want write access in both linux and windows
[03:25] <DBO> sorry, I lagged out, anything said in the past 3 minutes toward me I missed
[03:25] <ompaul> jhenn, in the future I believe it will be (as in a few months) but not that I know at this time
[03:25] <Evanescent> hi, how do i save a file that i have modified in nano?
[03:25] <sparkleytone> ctrl-x
[03:25] <ompaul> Evanescent, ctrl X
[03:25] <sparkleytone> then type the name
[03:25] <Evanescent> thanks
[03:25] <h3sp4wn> Jeldert: Try captive ntfs (suppost to be pretty stable)
[03:25] <sparkleytone> or leave it
[03:26] <sparkleytone> then enter
[03:26] <ompaul> !captivefs
[03:26] <DBO> !captive
[03:26] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul
[03:26] <ubotu> captive is, like, a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[03:26] <Jeldert> Subhuman, it slowed Windows down, startup took 10 minutes, opening explorer 2 etc
[03:26] <ompaul> h3sp4wn, ^^^^^^^^ up a line
[03:27] <DBO> -_-
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> 'dont make me stop this car!'
[03:27] <H080J03> say if you have the 32 bit version of ubuntu is there any way to swicht to the 64 bit kernal?
[03:27] <rgolden_> morning
[03:27] <phex> -.-
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> H080J03,  i say stick with 32bit for the forseeable future
[03:28] <ompaul> H080J03, what is your choice more desktop than db or something else?
[03:28] <DBO> phex, so even when you select recovery mode you still get a kernel panic?
[03:28] <H080J03> desktop
[03:28] <rgolden_> how can I install JRE in firefox in Breezy
[03:28] <DBO> gholias, "gedit /var/log/kernel" and put that in pastebin
[03:28] <DBO> !java
[03:28] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:28] <ompaul> H080J03, stay with 32bit
[03:28] <podge> Jeldert: I agree with the other guys.. create a FAT partition for you music etc.. that way Linux can both access..
[03:28] <H080J03> hmm k
[03:28] <rgolden_> thanks
[03:28] <phex> hm maybe my box is patient but i doesn't be so patient is there nothing what i can do?
[03:28] <h3sp4wn> H080J03: You can do it you have to build your own kernel - make sure you have 32bit compatibility in it and a 64 bit libc
[03:28] <ompaul> H080J03, unless you like pain
[03:29] <gholias> DBO, /var/log/kernel isnt a file
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> I just use that "let windows xp read/write ext3 file system" tool. and keep all my shared data on a ext3 drive
[03:29] <DBO> gholias, "gedit /var/log/kern.log" and put that in pastebin
[03:29] <H080J03> k
[03:29] <H080J03> i will just stick with 32bit
[03:29] <podge> Dr_Willis: Yeah.. basically take NTFS out of the equation.. it is annoying.. :(
[03:29] <Jeldert> podge, ok
[03:29] <H080J03> apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.11-9-amd64-k8
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> podge,  but i never can rember the url
[03:30] <H080J03> apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.11-9-amd64-k8
[03:30] <podge> Jeldert: Or follow the advice of Dr_Willis and move your music to an ext3 partition on Linux..
[03:30] <pianoboy3333> wtf is k8?
[03:30] <H080J03> hmm
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> www.fs-driver.org/  - lets XP read/write ext3
[03:30] <DBO> pianoboy3333, its the 64bit amd processors
[03:30] <H080J03> yea
[03:30] <DBO> H080J03, we are not your terminal =P
[03:30] <pianoboy3333> I thought k7 was AMD
[03:31] <DBO> pianoboy3333, thats the 32 bit AMD processors
[03:31] <ompaul> pianoboy3333, k7 is below 64bit and less of the what the fine thing is that
[03:31] <Jeldert> Dr_Willis, tried that one, but it was slowing down my windows
[03:31] <phex> no one who can help me?
[03:31] <pianoboy3333> ompaul: is k8 in the mainstream repositories?
[03:32] <podge> Dapper is top quality.. works great on my nc8230..
[03:32] <DBO> phex, does booting to recovery mode result in a kernel panic as well???
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> Jeldert,  never seen thar at all
[03:32] <phex> yes
[03:32] <DBO> pianoboy3333, yes, but its 64bit, which means painful
[03:32] <pianoboy3333> heh
[03:32] <phex> i don't if this the recovery boot was because it's the live cd
[03:32] <DBO> phex, you are fairly hosed then...
[03:32] <DBO> phex, no no, a recovery boot
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> Jeldert,  in fact it seems faster to me then normal file operations  on XP
[03:33] <DBO> phex, when it gives you all the choices for what to boot when you turn your machine on
[03:33] <phex> so i'm a totally noob
[03:33] <DBO> the second choice says recovery mode
[03:33] <gholias> DBO, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14731
[03:33] <phex> he load the ubuntu live cd scernn
[03:33] <phex> screen
[03:33] <DBO> phex, did you install ubuntu to a hard drive yet?
[03:33] <phex> no i didn'T
[03:33] <phex> i want to test it
[03:34] <phex> before i install it
[03:34] <DBO> phex, ohhhh, we cant help you until its on a hard drive really...
[03:34] <phex> thats what i think
[03:34] <phex> all the time
[03:34] <g0dchild> how can i get the usb-flash device to mount on the directory specified in fstab?
[03:34] <DBO> phex, for whatever reason the live CD doesnt work for you, not much I can really do about that...
[03:34] <g0dchild> sometimes, for example, when i plug a device in it may show up as /dev/sdb or sdc
[03:34] <ompaul> phex,  choose a suitable image of todays software from cdimage.ubuntu.com
[03:35] <DBO> gholias, the kernel isnt seeing the thernet card...
[03:35] <DBO> gholen, what eth card is it?
[03:35] <h3sp4wn> phex: Try the dapper RC live cd (if you are using the breezy one)
[03:35] <gholias> DBO, realtek
[03:35] <phex> maybe you can explain what the bazaar is good for?
[03:36] <DBO> gholias, go look and see if you can find it in the hardware list
[03:36] <DBO> !hardware
[03:36] <ubotu> well, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:36] <h3sp4wn> gholias: Is it 2 ethernets cards built onto the board ?
[03:36] <gholias> dbo i can see it on hardware list
[03:36] <gholias> h3sp4wn,  yes
[03:36] <DBO> gholen, ooooh =P
[03:36] <phex> ok thank yoz
[03:36] <gholias> i can see both, but just one is eth0
[03:37] <gholias> the other isnt set any ethx
[03:37] <gholias> look this
[03:37] <gholen> DBO: It is a D-Link DWL-G122
[03:37] <DBO> gholias, yes, I can see that in your kernel log...  you are only getting 1 ethernet device detected, I think you have a driver issue
[03:37] <gholias> lspci
[03:37] <gholen> It's quite nice!
[03:37] <gholias> 0000:00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS)
[03:37] <gholias> 0000:00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[03:37] <DBO> gholen, when I say your name, I mean gholias =P
[03:38] <gnomefreak> gholias: please dont paste in here
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> wow a paste that really dont say mich of anything. :P
[03:38] <gholias> gnomefreak, sorry, just 2 lines
[03:38] <gholen> gholias: We confuse them =P
[03:38] <gholias> gholen, yes rs
[03:38] <gnomefreak> but 2 turned into 4 here
[03:39] <gholias> gnomefreak, sorry again
[03:39] <DBO> gnomefreak, well its not his fault you have a small window =P
[03:40] <gnomefreak> DBO: my window is 86X23
[03:40] <speedo_> is there anyone who has installed xgl lib
[03:40] <gnomefreak> speedo_: #ubuntu-xgl for all you xgl needs or #ubuntu+1 you can try too
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> gholias: do you know the exact model of motherboard you have ? (I need to work out whether its one physical ethernet card with some sort of tagging or not)
[03:41] <gholias> DBO,  look, searching on google, i found a tutorial that said to add eth1 info at /etc/modprobe.conf, but this file isnt in my ubuntu
[03:42] <darkness_> can anyone tell me where to find the file ~/.themes dir ?
[03:42] <h3sp4wn> ~/
[03:42] <njan> darkness_, ~ means your home directory. Just cd ~/.themes
[03:43] <gholias> h3sp4wn, Im not sure, if i undestand what you said. I have one onboard card (its eth0) and another pci card (not with ethx)
[03:43] <njan> darkness_, if your home directory is /home/darkness, ~/.themes == /home/darkness/.themes
[03:43] <DBO> gholias, yes, use /etc/modprobe.d/aliases instead
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> gholias: I thought you said you had two ports on the motherboard
[03:44] <theine> gholias: maybe it's named differently? is there anything in the output of "ifconfig -a" that looks like a ethernet device?
[03:44] <Evanescent> Great, thanks for the help my screen resolution problem is resolved
[03:44] <Frogzoo> h3sp4wn: as long as the kernel has the right drivers, update /etc/network/interfaces should be all you need
[03:44] <WarOfAttrition> I think 1280x1024 is a distorted picture
[03:45] <Evanescent> though i've got a hell of a lot to learn about the terminal and the command line by the look of it
[03:45] <Frogzoo> !tell Evanescent about docs
[03:45] <sparkleytone> why does getting the damned jre or jdk for java have to be such a chore...
[03:45] <ravenlock> Hello,  My atheros based NIC can't seem to get a IP address from my DHCP server.  The card/setup is functioning fine otherwise.
[03:45] <Frogzoo> sparkleytone: it's pretty easy actually
[03:45] <Frogzoo> !java
[03:45] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:45] <sparkleytone> not installing
[03:46] <podge> !java
[03:46] <sparkleytone> actually getting
[03:46] <sparkleytone> ;)
[03:46] <theine> sparkleytone: on Dapper you just install the sun-java5-jre package and are done
[03:46] <gholias> theine, yes, just one card is an  ethernet device
[03:46] <sparkleytone> theine: so no more holy war against java in dapper?
[03:46] <theine> sparkleytone: there has never been one as far as I know
[03:46] <gholias> DBO, /etc/modprobe.d/aliases dont list eth0, should i add this line alias eth1 8139too?
[03:47] <theine> sparkleytone: sun-java5-jre is in the multiverse repo though
[03:47] <h3sp4wn> Frogzoo: What I was thinking was the motherboard just had one physical ethernet connection (but two ports) I have had to set that up before (but it isn't relevant seen as one of the cards is a pci (but not as he said before))
[03:47] <sparkleytone> the debian folks have had a java chip on their shoulders for a while now
[03:47] <Frogzoo> gholias: you won't see eth0 there - only the driver
[03:47] <gholias> DBO, 8139too is the modulo of realtek cards
[03:47] <sparkleytone> and while i don't blame them at all...java is just too important these days
[03:47] <Nukeador> Any1 have any idea to avoid cdrom hanging during the install with the desktop cd?
[03:47] <theine> gholias: and do you see anything that looks like a second ethernet card in the dmesg output?
[03:48] <DBO> gholias, do whatever your walkthrough tells you do, I havent configured one of those cards ever, I was just pointing you to the file you were looking for =P
[03:48] <WarOfAttrition> I just used automatrix to install java I'm sorry to say. Now I know how to do it, but a couple of months ago I just wanted it to work
[03:48] <Frogzoo> sparkleytone: blame the foss peeps who think their free implementation > the people who own java - go figure
[03:48] <Frogzoo> !automatix
[03:48] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it.  Sun should be opening the doors wide for Java on Linux.
[03:49] <h3sp4wn> 0000:00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) is probably the onboard one and 0000:00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS) looks like the pci one
[03:49] <arrummzen> I have someone who borked their /etc/X11/xorg.conf file... does Ubuntu have some niffty tool to fix it for them?
[03:50] <darkness_> Frgozoo: Thanks. I'm just trying to get my desktop looking a bit better, so I'm trying to experiment with a OSX type look.
[03:50] <sparkleytone> arrummzen: dpkg-reconfigure xorg maybe?
[03:50] <sparkleytone> heh os x 'look' ... i just use os x ;)
[03:50] <WarOfAttrition> arrummzen|  either that or copy a backup
[03:50] <podge> sparkleytone: Shouldn't matter that it isn't Solaris. It should be about promoting Java on a growth platform.
[03:50] <theine> arrummzen: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:50] <gholias> h3sp4wn, right, you are right
[03:51] <ravenlock> anyone have any idea why I might not be able to get an ip address from my dhcp server with my atheros card (using madwifi)
[03:51] <sparkleytone> podge: i think it has less to do with solaris and more to do with the leverage that java gives them
[03:51] <arrummzen> WarOfAttrition: the backup didn't seem to work?
[03:51] <darkness_> Spakeleytone: Meh. I just don't have the money to fork out over it. Anyway, I like Ubuntu. I just don't like the brown.
[03:51] <kismet> Why if update  groups of a user by user-admin on the existing "Konsole" application I'm not able to see the update?
[03:51] <WarOfAttrition> go to the /etc/X11/ folder and see if there anything like xorg.conf.backup
[03:51] <gholias> theine, nothing on dmesg
[03:52] <arrummzen> WarOfAttrition: there is, but it didn't work.
[03:52] <sparkleytone> i don't understand the money argument...just...save it instead of buying new crap for your pc or building a new pc as soon as you get a couple hundred bucks
[03:52] <h3sp4wn> gholias: try sudo modprobe ne2k-pci
[03:52] <WarOfAttrition> arrummzen| copy the newest backup into xorg.conf , or do what theine said
[03:52] <h3sp4wn> gholias: try sudo ifup eth1
[03:52] <took77> moin
[03:52] <theine> gholias: ok, so the driver (if there is one) for you network card isn't loaded then
[03:52] <arrummzen> WarOfAttrition: I just recomended what theine to him.
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> gholias: It needs ne2k-pci to be loaded not the realtek one
[03:53] <darkness_> I have a job, and I do save money. But I need to save it for more important things. Anyway, like I said; I like my Ubuntu and don't really won't to try OSX at the moment. I just want ubuntu to look better, and I was pointed to this tut that I'm suing
[03:53] <darkness_> using*
[03:53] <UbuntuProbz`> Hey Hey. Just installed ubuntu 64 bit ed. Getting xServer probs after full install. Tried reinstall, no luck. Any ideas?
[03:54] <theine> darkness_: it's not that hard to change the default colour theme, is it?
[03:54] <minimouse> hello i need some help with software raid on ubuntu. ubuntu installer doens't recognize the hard drive at all (partitioner doesn't show any disks or partitions). laptop is toshiba portege S100 with 80GB RAID0 hard drive
[03:54] <gholias> h3sp4wn, ifup eth1 returns alias Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.
[03:54] <WarOfAttrition> arrummzen|  but the quickest way to do it if you mess with xorg.conf a lot is to copy a backup into the current. or better yet, view the x errors you get at start up, and edit the xorg.conf with nano accordingly
[03:54] <darkness_> Theine: No, it isn't. I'm just experimenting with changing the hole look.
[03:54] <Frogzoo> !tell theine about themes
[03:54] <podge> Gnome is fine.. and the faster startup times on Dapper are excellent.
[03:54] <theine> Frogzoo: That was a rhetoric question...
[03:54] <arrummzen> WarOfAttrition: 1) The backup didn't work 2) I really don't want to go through debuging an Xorg server with this guy...
[03:54] <theine> But thanks...
[03:54] <Frogzoo> gholias: update your /etc/network/interfaces to spec eth1
[03:54] <h3sp4wn> gholias: Is that after sudo modprobe ne2k-pci
[03:55] <UbuntuProbz`> Anyone? :(
[03:55] <Nukeador> Any1 have any idea to avoid cdrom hanging during the install with the desktop cd?
[03:55] <kismet> Anyone have news when the bug related to maxima, xmaxima, wxmaxima will be fixed on dapper?
[03:55] <gholias> h3sp4wn,  yes, after
[03:55] <gholias> Frogzoo, how?
[03:55] <WarOfAttrition> arrummzen|  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' should work
[03:55] <h3sp4wn> gholias: Does it need a static ip address ?
[03:55] <Frogzoo> theine: sorry - missed that you were using sarcasm font (TM)
[03:55] <UbuntuProbz`> Hey Hey. Just installed ubuntu 64 bit ed. Getting xServer probs after full install. Tried reinstall, no luck. Any ideas?
[03:56] <arrummzen> WarOfAttrition: I hope so.
[03:56] <WarOfAttrition> if xorg was edited, it's 1 minute debugging, usually 1 line has an errant character
[03:56] <rysiek|pl> UbuntuProbz`: what kind of xServer Probz do you have in mind?
[03:56] <arrummzen> WarOfAttrition: I am under the impression that Xorg was butchered not edited...
[03:56] <UbuntuProbz`> rysiek|pl Its telling me erm.. brb ill reboot.
[03:56] <minimouse> hello, please i need some help with software raid on ubuntu. ubuntu installer doens't recognize the hard drive at all (partitioner doesn't show any disks or partitions). laptop is toshiba portege S100 with 80GB RAID0 hard drive. Matter is very urgent.
[03:56] <WarOfAttrition> arrummzen|  only way to know is to view the errors it gives
[03:57] <gholias> h3sp4wn, yes, 192.168.0.1
[03:57] <h3sp4wn> gholias: add http://pastebin.com/741164 to /etc/network/interfaces
[03:57] <arrummzen> WarOfAttrition: there are alot of errors.
[03:57] <rysiek|pl> UbuntuProbz`: why reboot?
[03:57] <rysiek|pl> just look at te logs
[03:58] <minimouse> hello, please i need some help with software raid on ubuntu. ubuntu installer doens't recognize the hard drive at all (partitioner doesn't show any disks or partitions). laptop is toshiba portege S100 with 80GB RAID0 hard drive. Matter is very urgent.
[03:58] <ajo> hi cud any1 suggest a better and lite non KDE & GNOME desktop
[03:58] <arrummzen> ajo: I like twm
[03:58] <UbuntuProbz`> rysiek|pl: Its telling me.. (Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?
[03:58] <WarOfAttrition> ajo|  xfce or fluxbox
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> gholias: then run sudo sysctl net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 (then from the machine behind it try to ping an ip address) (for example 194.112.32.1 which I know is up)
[03:59] <neck_> or enlightenment
[03:59] <gholias> h3sp4wn, on the code you send me, last line  post-up /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE referes eth0 or eth1?
[03:59] <WarOfAttrition> if you dont want to configure anything, I'd go xfce
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> gholia: If the external interface is eth0 then it should refer to eth0
[03:59] <kspath> I fail to understand to "love" of a "desktop".
[04:00] <rysiek|pl> UbuntuProbz`: do: cat /var/log/Xorg.* | grep EE
[04:00] <stjepan> anyone here uses kxdocker?
[04:00] <stjepan> !kxdocker
[04:00] <ubotu> stjepan: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:00] <ajo> ok ..
[04:00] <took77> hello. Im new to ubuntu. also new to debain. i use mandrake since 3 years and I'm about to try the new ubuntu 6.06. I already downloaded the RC1 Server-Install and sucsessfull yinstaled it. but there is no kde (what I want) nor gnome. neither X11... is it enough to say "apt-get kubuntu"? or did i leeched the wrong cd? right now I'm downlaoding http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso ... is this better??? i dont want no
[04:00] <arrummzen> twm is probalby the simplest to use, comes preinstalled with xorg, and requires the least system resources...
[04:00] <rysiek|pl> UbuntuProbz`: and paste the output in the pastebin
[04:00] <rysiek|pl> UbuntuProbz`: so that I can look through it
[04:01] <kspath> !tell took77 about kde
[04:01] <kspath> !tell took77 about gnome
[04:01] <took77> yea
[04:01] <took77> tell me :)
[04:01] <took77> yes. ok
[04:01] <took77> but.
[04:01] <kspath> took77: apt-get install gnome-desktop ?
[04:01] <WarOfAttrition> who said anything about love of a desktop
[04:02] <took77> ....
[04:02] <took77> ok
[04:02] <theine> took77: better do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[04:02] <UbuntuProbz`> rysiek|pl : Fatal server error: no screens found
[04:02] <took77> did I get it right
[04:02] <took77> i can cancel the download of http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso
[04:03] <gholias> h3sp4wn, hold on
[04:03] <siccness> i woulda got the alternate iso or whatever it is
[04:03] <took77> and boot right now the server version and just have to type apt-get install kde (or soething similar ;) )
[04:03] <rysiek|pl> UbuntuProbz`: that's all? try searching the wiki (wiki.ubuntu.com) on your gfx card vendor and XServer setup
[04:03] <kspath> took77:  sudo apt-cache search desktop | grep ubuntu
[04:04] <UbuntuProbz`> rysiek|pl : Will do mate. Cheers.
[04:04] <rysiek|pl> cheers
[04:04] <gholias> h3sp4wn, should i reboot?
[04:05] <took77> damn. I should have started the download of the live-cd on another pc. Then I could try right now to apt-get install gnome or kde......
[04:05] <minimouse> do i have to do something special for somebody to talk to me?
[04:06] <aLPHa_LeaK> minimouse: if noone knows the answer, noone can help
[04:06] <nicolas_1> minimouse: yes, i dont know what but yes
[04:06] <h3sp4wn> gholias: don't yet
[04:06] <minimouse> :(
[04:06] <gholias> h3sp4wn,  i did what you said and notworking
[04:07] <UbuntuProbz`> rysiek|pl : No luck on the error with wiki.
[04:07] <nicolas_1> minimouse: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> gholias: run sudo sysctl net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 && ifup eth1
[04:08] <h3sp4wn> gholias: run sudo sysctl net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 && sudo ifup eth1 (sorry)
[04:08] <gholias> h3sp4wn, Im using root
[04:08] <gholias> h3sp4wn,  eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[04:08] <gholias> Failed to bring up eth1.
[04:09] <minimouse> nicolas_1: at least now i know my messages are delivered!
[04:09] <UbuntuProbz`> Your all gay.
[04:10] <UbuntuProbz`> You all love thy cock.
[04:10] <UbuntuProbz`> And brown love.
[04:10] <h3sp4wn> gholias: dmesg | grep ne2k
[04:10] <Juhaz> !ops
[04:10] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[04:10] <gholias> h3sp4wn nothing
[04:11] <UbuntuProbz`> Sorry hobbsee <3
[04:11] <Hobbsee> Seveas: nyah!  you and your good scripts!!!
[04:11] <gholias> h3sp4wn, i have an idea, put the cable modem on that not started card and run ppoeconf, what you think?
[04:11] <Seveas> Hobbsee, hehe
[04:11] <tuxmaniac> heh.. Seveas
[04:11] <MrRio> can you use gdebi on breezy?
[04:12] <Seveas> MrRio, no
[04:12] <cya> Last night, I was instructed to run memtest86 to see why my laptop, running Dapper, was freezing and running into Kernel Panics.
[04:12] <Desh> fglrx is working as my video driver, X works, but games like planet penguin racer still run VERY slowly.
[04:12] <cya> It has been running for 7 hours so far, and it is still testing.  How long do I have to run it for?
[04:12] <MrRio> Seveas, *sob*
[04:12] <Seveas> Hobbsee, I don't use k*
[04:13] <Hobbsee> Seveas: i know.
[04:13] <Desh> Does anyone know how I can configure fglrx to correctly do 3d acceleration?
[04:13] <Hobbsee> surely you can learn :P
[04:13] <took77> cu there
[04:13] <ompaul>  /cs kb Hobbsee
[04:13] <Seveas> Hobbsee, when hell freezes over
[04:13] <WarOfAttrition> ?
[04:13] <Seveas> Hobbsee, and no, april 20 1994 does not count ;)
[04:13] <Hobbsee> rofl!
[04:13] <DBO> WarOfAttrition, its a smilie
[04:14] <WarOfAttrition> ?
[04:14] <WarOfAttrition> ah...
[04:14] <Frogzoo> !tell Desh about fglrx
[04:15] <DBO> [ot]  even ATI cant configure fglrx to correctly do 3d acceleration
[04:15] <WarOfAttrition> I'm groggy sorry
[04:15] <cya> How long does Memtest86 take to complete?  It has been running for 7 hours and 5 minutes so far.
[04:15] <DBO> cya, thats about long enough, any errors?
[04:15] <DBO> (cya, it loops btw, never ends)
[04:15] <Desh> Frogzoo, I got it installed right, but the game won;t work well.
[04:15] <cya> Well, For the first 6 hours, it reported no errors.
[04:16] <DBO> cya, so you did get an error?
[04:16] <cya> Then I picked up the laptop, and it started spewing out red errors like crap.
[04:16] <Azrazel> If ubuntu hangs during bootup, is there a way to switch to a command-prompt?
[04:16] <Frogzoo> Desh: fglrxinfo | grep renderer
[04:16] <DBO> cya, its time to toss that memory
[04:16] <cya> DBO: How am I sure that it isn't the motherboard?
[04:17] <DBO> because memtest... tests the memory (I suppose the error could be in transit, but not likely)
[04:17] <cya> DBO: I swapped out the memory earlier and ran into the same problems -freezing up, kernel panics, even tried both Breezy and DApper.
[04:17] <DBO> cya, so it only does the errors when you move it?
[04:17] <h3sp4wn> gholias: does modprobe ne2k-pci not give any output ?
[04:17] <gholias> h3sp4wn, no
[04:17] <h3sp4wn> gholia: pastebin the output of lsmod
[04:17] <cya> DBO: It's still spewing out errors as we speak.  I don't know if it was a coincidence that it started occuring after I picked it up.
[04:17] <cya> DBO: It was going 6 hours without any errors.
[04:17] <gholias> h3sp4wn, nothing happen
[04:17] <el-viruz> hi
[04:18] <DBO> cya, something with that memory is fubar man... you cant trust it anymore.  It is possible the motherboard is killing your RAM, but that RAM is toasty
[04:18] <DBO> speaking of toasty, how hot is your laptop?
[04:18] <cya> DBO: Ah, alright, I will try to swap it out.
[04:18] <cya> DBO: Now that you bring it up, it is hotter then usual.
[04:18] <el-viruz> how can I activate the second output of my Geforce 6600gt ?
[04:18] <gholias> h3sp4wn, http://pastebin.com/741185
[04:19] <Ivaldi> I'm going to reinstall ubuntu. if i backup "~/.gnupg/", will I be able to use my encryption keys on the new install?
[04:19] <DBO> cya, could be a cooling issue
[04:19] <DBO> cya, is this a new mactel?
[04:19] <Seveas> Ivaldi, yes
[04:19] <cya> DBO: But then again, it has been running for 7 hours a memtest.
[04:19] <cya> Mactel?
[04:19] <Ivaldi> Seveas: okay, thanks
[04:19] <DBO> cya, an apple
[04:19] <cya> DBO: It's a Dell Inspiron 3800.
[04:19] <DBO> cya, a computer should be able to run memtest its entire life with zero errors
[04:20] <cya> DBO: I was thinking that's why it was hotter then usual.
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> gholias: ne2k-pci and 8390 are the correct modules for your card
[04:20] <Azrazel> How can I get to a commandprompt when the bootup hangs/freezes/waits forever to timeout? Please, I'm so close...
[04:20] <DBO> cya, yes, memtest will cause it to heat up, but it shouldnt cause errors like that... what is it sitting on?
[04:20] <cya> DBO: I just chagned the error reporting  mode to BadRAM Patterns and i get the message badram= everywhere so I suppose the RAM is the culprit.
[04:20] <Frogzoo> Azrazel: ctrl + alt + F1 maybe?
[04:20] <cya> DBO: It is sitting on a Desk.
[04:20] <DBO> cya, how hot is the room you are in?
[04:20] <gholias> h3sp4wn, ok, what next?
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> gholias: add or unhash net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 to /etc/sysctl.conf
[04:21] <Azrazel> Thanks I'll try it
[04:21] <oene> test
[04:21] <cya> I would say normal room temperature.  Around 68-70 F.
[04:21] <ajo> quit
[04:22] <DBO> cya, do you have a cold basement perhaps you can retreat to?  see if cooling things down lets it run longer without errors
[04:22] <gholias> h3sp4wn,  done
[04:22] <cya> DBO: You mean running it for another 8 hours?
[04:22] <ZoDiaC13> is there a page that explains some keystroke shortcuts that can be used in linux?
[04:22] <DBO> cya... well... uhhh.... yes =)
[04:23] <cya> DBO: Ah, perhaps I should just swap the RAM out with another laptop and run Ubuntu to see if I encounter any further issues.
[04:23] <DBO> cya, or you can do that =P
[04:23] <DBO> cya, my only concern is that laptops often encounter heat issues, its not exactly BAD hardware, just overheating hardware
[04:23] <cya> DBO: Hopefully the motherboard isn't toasting these RAM sticks, otherwise, I will have 2 out of service laptops :D
[04:24] <stjepan> Hobbsee, I know why kxdocker didn't work for me. I just didn't read docs carefully :) Tnx.
[04:24] <h3sp4wn> gholias: alias eth1 ne2k-pci
[04:24] <h3sp4wn> gholias: ifup eth1
[04:25] <goethe> hi everyone
[04:25] <gholias> h3sp4wn, -su: alias: eth1: not found
[04:26] <goethe> Did anyone test Ubuntu RC Dapper with an Imac G5 Rev A?
[04:26] <goethe> Are the fans supported?
[04:26] <h3sp4wn> gholias: add 'alias eth1 ne2k-pci' to /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[04:27] <h3sp4wn> gholias: at the very bottom
[04:27] <reiki> h3sp4wn, you do anything with compositing?
[04:27] <betao1> I am new with Linux. I download lmule, how can I run it?
[04:27] <gholias> h3sp4wn, done
[04:28] <speedo_> guys could anyone tell me ifa gnome chat does exist?
[04:28] <h3sp4wn> gholias: Try rebooting (I don't know an easy way to get the aliases for that reread)
[04:28] <halete> hello
[04:28] <gholias> h3sp4wn, ok, Ill be right back
[04:28] <h3sp4wn> reiki: What like xgl or anything like that ?
[04:28] <reiki> speedo: gnome chat comes with Ubuntu... or use XChat that ALSO comes with Ubuntu
[04:29] <h3sp4wn> reiki: Or composing ?
[04:29] <reiki> h3sp4wn, I'm retying to figure out of any of the compositing like drop shadow and transparency (don't care about the cube trick) will work with nvidia-legacy driver
[04:29] <Techno_2> Hello
[04:30] <goethe> Did anyone test Ubuntu RC Dapper with an Imac G5 Rev A?
[04:30] <h3sp4wn> reiki: Don't know anything about any of that
[04:30] <reiki> h3sp4wn, okay... thanks
[04:30] <reiki> :)
[04:31] <Techno_2> I am trying to compile a kernel with suspend2 patched in. I've doen all the compiling, added it to my grub menu list, but do I need initrd?
[04:31] <tedd> Can anybody help me? Banshee won't play my .mp3 files.
[04:31] <tedd> Rhythmbox will, and I followed restrictedformats.
[04:31] <goethe> Nobobody using an Imac G5 Rev A (ppc) here?
[04:32] <elsie-dee> can someone tell me how to change file trype properties in gnome?
[04:33] <lemur> elsie-dee: hi, you just want a gnomish way to run chmod?
[04:34] <elsie-dee> i guess so, i am reading from the gnome faq, and it wants me to access a propgram called gnome-file-types-proprteies, which i do not have
[04:34] <Fitzz> !fi
[04:34] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[04:34] <elsie-dee> it also says there is a file types and programs menu item in preferences but i do not have that either
[04:34] <h3sp4wn> reiki: Does the card work with the korora (can't spell it) live cd ?
[04:35] <lemur> which ubuntu do you have?
[04:35] <elsie-dee> ubuntu breezy badger
[04:35] <lemur> ah
[04:35] <speedo_> guys
[04:35] <lemur> i'm rather new to ubuntu and gnome, but I will try to help
[04:36] <speedo_> is it possible that transaperency doesn't run under gnome?
[04:37] <Mortal`> Is there a set time and date for official Dapper release?
[04:37] <Fitzz> !dapper
[04:37] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[04:37] <lemur> mortal: the release page says june first
[04:38] <Quinch> I've got a question, if I may. If I have problems with stuttering sound, how do I increase the buffer?
[04:39] <Quinch> Hello? Did I disconnect?
[04:41] <Quinch> >.> 'ello?
[04:41] <jcmcbeth> I'm trying to have apache treat a file with a .jpg extention as a php file, i've modified the .htaccess to forcetype, and to addtype and it just doesn't do it.
[04:41] <jcmcbeth> Anyone know why it would do that?
[04:41] <bony> how to install 32bit software in 64 bit system ?
[04:42] <bony> ia32-libs is already installed
[04:42] <jcmcbeth> wrong channel, excellent
[04:42] <Techno_2> jcm: Yes
[04:42] <lemur> jcmcbeth does your htaccess override mimetypes?
[04:42] <Techno_2> I do know hwo to do that
[04:42] <speedo_> bye
[04:43] <Desh> How would I go about installing a run file, such as the UT2004 demo?
[04:43] <serp> chmod +x filename
[04:43] <serp> ./filename
[04:43] <Quinch> Desh, try sh filename?
[04:43] <leethal> can anyone give me a lead in how to make the eject button on the cdrom drive work? Now I have to software-unmount it. Strange tough, since I can open the CDrom with the cdrom's hardware button when it's unmounted.
[04:45] <lemur> elsie-dee my gnome install does not have the program you list, either.  I am able to open the file browser and right-click to get to file properties.
[04:45] <Desh> Hmm, whenever I click menus now, with fglrx, there is a horizontal like under my mouse cursor...
[04:45] <rod> mms://212.54.36.46/l1radio   this this audiolink work for you guys?
[04:45] <Quinch> Rod, how do I open it?
[04:46] <rod> Quinch, it;s supposed to be an audio stream so totem i gues
[04:46] <buzzed> what is the best voip solution for linux? skype is a bit sketchy
[04:46] <Desh> Whenever I click menus now, with fglrx, there is a horizontal like under my mouse cursor...anyone know how I can make it go away?
[04:46] <twager> anyone use streamtuner and xmms ?
[04:47] <Fitzz> will the final version of dapper be 6.10?
[04:47] <leethal> bump
[04:47] <Desh> I use XMMS for music.
[04:47] <g0dchild> Hi, how do i images with .ccu?
[04:47] <ompaul> buzzed, asterisk if you want a pabx type of solution any scale
[04:47] <g0dchild> i meant .cue
[04:47] <g0dchild> sheets
[04:47] <RockinWidTeh666> Is is possible to change the ubuntu splash that follows the grub screen to something else without too much trouble?
[04:47] <ompaul> Fitzz, that will be the version after dapper
[04:47] <ompaul> !daooer
[04:47] <ubotu> ompaul: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:47] <ompaul> !dapper
[04:47] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[04:48] <twager> I find streamtuner will not connect to the Virgin net but is ok an all the others ..
[04:48] <gholias> h3sp4wn, im here
[04:48] <h3sp4wn> gholias: So whats happened ?
[04:48] <gholias> h3sp4wn, the driver is loaded now
[04:48] <g0dchild> RockinWidTeh666, that'll depend on how much you consider to be trouble...just run 'gconf-editor' first- and then search for splash
[04:49] <h3sp4wn> gholias: And can you ping it from the other computer ?
[04:49] <HotDrive> Hi
[04:49] <Fitzz> ah, ok ompaul
[04:49] <HotDrive> need help copying files
[04:49] <gholias> h3sp4wn, but didnt found eth1
[04:49] <gholias> nec2k-pci driver is loaded
[04:49] <miano> hi. i'm a linux newbie, how do i install packages that are not listed in synaptic.
[04:50] <gholias> h3sp4wn, what was the last command you send me?
[04:50] <h3sp4wn> gholia: ifup eth1
[04:50] <gholias> h3sp4wn, eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[04:51] <runge> hi
[04:51] <lemur> miano:  you have to add the respositories to /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:51] <runge> I have changed screen, and ubuntu sets default resutution to 640x480. this screen can handle much more, but I get no choice. How do I change?
[04:52] <lemur> hi runge
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> gholias: pastebin lspci
[04:52] <lemur> System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[04:52] <odat> hi everyone
[04:53] <odat> is there a fix for wvdial yet?
[04:53] <runge> hi lemur, alredy tired, but it have no other options avalible. only--
[04:53] <ompaul> odat, in dapper?
[04:53] <runge> only 640*480
[04:53] <HotDrive> can anybody tell me how can I copy files to a Root owned directory?
[04:53] <miano> thanks lemur, i'll try that
[04:53] <gholias> h3sp4wn, http://pastebin.com/741224
[04:53] <ompaul> HotDrive, care to tell us more about this directory what kind of format has the file system?
[04:53] <Healot> HotDrive: "sudo"(ku)
[04:53] <lemur> runge, perhaps you need to modify your /etcX11/xorg.conf
[04:54] <h3sp4wn> gholias: pastebin lshw
[04:54] <mike12123> does the new version of ubuntu have support of apm built in?
[04:54] <runge> lemur, well, maybe I should. though the only thing I changed was the monitor, did not touch any files. I just want to have same resulutions I had before
[04:54] <HotDrive> what is the copy command?
[04:54] <runge> HotDrive, cp
[04:54] <ompaul> HotDrive, by any chance is that a windows or dos drive?
[04:55] <HotDrive> its in ubuntu dapper
[04:55] <lemur> runge, the xorg.conf file determines when the xorg server sees.  If you changed monitors without updating the conf file, it may not be able to do much.
[04:55] <ompaul> HotDrive, it is a dapper system, so it is a linux drive not a windows one?
[04:56] <spike> hi, does anybody know if you can dump deconf-selection for a non installed package? I cant find how
[04:56] <HotDrive> I want to copy files from Desktop to /usr/share/...
[04:56] <runge> lemur, ah ok. thanks for the info :)
[04:56] <spike> I need to create some preseeding file and want to install packages not installed on this box
[04:56] <Falc> Hello. I cannot get the Ubuntu LiveCD working on my Toshiba L20-197.
[04:56] <lemur> spike:  apt-cache show pkg_name
[04:56] <spike> so I cant just dumb answers with debconf-get-selections
[04:56] <HotDrive> ...but the system tells me that I canot copy files because I don't havepermission...
[04:56] <spike> lemur: eh?
[04:57] <eggzeck> HotDrive, 'sudo'
[04:57] <Falc> The problem is that my laptop will not display anything, when I use vga=771(i think) then it will load and load up a scrambled text-based message stating: "Xorg could not start"
[04:57] <spike> lemur:  how does that help?
[04:57] <VincentMX> yo
[04:57] <lemur> spkie, I may not have understood your question
[04:57] <ompaul> HotDrive, okay so >> sudo 'cp filename /usr/share' << however it is not usual that you would do that what are you trying to install?
[04:57] <eggzeck> HotDrive, sudp cp /whatever /wherever
[04:57] <h3sp4wn> gholias: (I only need the network parts from lshw)
[04:57] <HotDrive> using sudo can I copy an intire directory from Desktop to another directory?
[04:58] <eggzeck> HotDrive, yes, sudo cp -r /whatever /wherever
[04:58] <lemur> afk a moment, pager is telling me I have work to do
[04:58] <gholias> h3sp4wn, http://pastebin.com/741229
[04:58] <ompaul> spike, I don't understand what your asking, is it (remember I don't understand) apt-cache policy package (but I think not)
[04:59] <Techno_2> How and where do I get mkinitrd from?
[04:59] <spike> ompaul: I'm asking for debconf-get-selections on not installed packages
[04:59] <HotDrive> so: the directory in desktop is called ABC... sudo cp -r /Desktop/ABC /usr/share/PPP/ABC ?
[05:00] <eggzeck> Techno_2, apt-cache search mkinitrd
[05:00] <ompaul> spike,  debconf-show  ?
[05:02] <ompaul> spike, I am only guessing from this "man -k debconf!
[05:02] <ompaul> spike, I am only guessing from this "man -k debconf" even
[05:02] <reiki> h3sp4wn, I'm trying to figure out what you meant by korora live CD
[05:02] <shanky> hi
[05:02] <spike> ompaul: that works on local db, so no
[05:02] <HotDrive> do I need to create the destination directory before copying?
[05:03] <shanky> I have a system with kubuntu installed in an ide hd, but it has also a sata hd, but I can find any mount point
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> reiki: Kororaa XGL live cd
[05:03] <lemur> /dev/sda...
[05:03] <ompaul> HotDrive, what are you actually trying to install we might actually know a way to do it -- sudo mkdir foo
[05:03] <reiki> h3sp4wn, googling that ....
[05:04] <gholias> h3sp4wn,  i be right back
[05:04] <shanky> lemur: I can see this in dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14734
[05:04] <VincentMX> is there ever going to come something like an ubuntu media center thing? It would be nice to have something using Freevo or MythTV, so you can have a user friendly kind of winmce
[05:04] <shanky> but anything else
[05:05] <Napoleon> How do I mount a usb drive? With one, I just put it in and type 'sudo mount /media/sda1', but with my other usb drive it does not work
[05:05] <ollo82> nabend
[05:05] <HotDrive> ompaul -> I have a skin for aMSN in Desktop and I want to copy it to /usr/share/amsn/skins/
[05:05] <lemur> shanky does lspci say anything about unknown hardware?
[05:05] <ompaul> HotDrive, have you got amsn installed?
[05:05] <HotDrive> yes
[05:06] <shanky> lemur: no
[05:06] <HotDrive> I downloaded the skins in zip format and unziped them in Desktop
[05:06] <shanky> I can even read this: 0000:00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)
[05:06] <ompaul> HotDrive, so do this first, sudo updatedb then do this, locate amsn | grep skin
[05:07] <ompaul> HotDrive, that is to find it on your machine for sure
[05:07] <lemur> shanky: do you have any sda devices in /dev?  ls -l /dev/sda*
[05:07] <Techno_2> eggzeck: I tried that and there is no mkinitrd package?
[05:08] <HotDrive> now I just have to copy them to the /skins directory in amsn
[05:08] <elsie-dee> lemur: unfortunately that does not help me as i am looking to register a messenger protocol for use with gaim, not a file type
[05:08] <shanky> lemur: no, I haven't anything like /dev/sd*
[05:08] <ompaul> HotDrive, step 1 >>cd /usr/share/amsn/skins/<<
[05:09] <ompaul> HotDrive, got that done yet?
[05:09] <lemur> hmm, my sata drives on via hardware show up as /dev/sda* devices
[05:09] <HotDrive> yes
[05:09] <lemur> shannky: hmm, my sata drives on via hardware show up as /dev/sda* devices
[05:09] <lemur> i can't type today
[05:10] <lemur> shanky: does lsmod show that via modules are loaded?
[05:10] <BuCKetHeaD27> does anyone know how to automatically download packages when installing a program?
[05:10] <ompaul> HotDrive, sudo cp ~hotdrive/Desktop/Path/* . <<< note the dot
[05:10] <ompaul> HotDrive, sudo cp -R ~hotdrive/Desktop/Path/* . <<< note the dot  (sorry about that
[05:11] <shanky> lemur: yes
[05:11] <lemur> elsie-dee: what does that have to do with gnome?
[05:11] <shanky> sata_via                8964  0
[05:11] <shanky> libata                 78992  1 sata_via
[05:11] <ompaul> HotDrive, a lower case letter is different to an upper case letter when dealing with text on the command line
[05:12] <shanky> lemur: it could be that the hd is not already formatted?
[05:12] <HotDrive> well it copied the files but didn't stored them in a new directory
[05:12] <lemur> shanky: you should see an sda device in /dev if your kernel recognizes the sata drive
[05:12] <BuCKetHeaD27> can anyone tell me how to automatically download packages when installing a program?
[05:13] <ompaul> ubotu tell BuCKetHeaD27 about synaptic
[05:13] <HotDrive> I need to create the destination directory first and type the p command from there, right?
[05:13] <ompaul> BuCKetHeaD27, it happens when you use the tools provided
[05:13] <lemur> shanky: formatting does not matter
[05:13] <HotDrive> sorry -> cp command
[05:13] <ompaul> HotDrive, yes, from what you said already I took it you had done that
[05:14] <BuCKetHeaD27> i use synaptic. its just everytime i go to install a program it says a certain package is not installed. I then install it through synaptic. But isn't there a way to install them automatically?
[05:14] <rab> how can i tell the remaining space on my disk from the terminal
[05:14] <HotDrive> sorry, my bad
[05:14] <Frogzoo> rab: df -h
[05:14] <lemur> rab df or df -h
[05:14] <HotDrive> gonna try to create the directory and copy the files into it
[05:15] <twager> Anyone using streamtuner ?
[05:15] <rab> thanks
[05:15] <ompaul> !tell BuCKetHeaD27 about easysource
[05:15] <HotDrive> or not... :(
[05:15] <varsendagger> twager, yeah i use streamtuner
[05:15] <varsendagger> it is great
[05:15] <HotDrive> the make directory command is md?
[05:15] <lemur> mkdir
[05:15] <twager> Can you tell me if it will connect to the Virgin nets with xmms ?
[05:15] <HotDrive> thanks
[05:16] <varsendagger> just a sec i usually only use it for shoutcast
[05:16] <ompaul> BuCKetHeaD27, read that URL it will stop some problems for you, however there are times you might not want to install certain packages so you have to be told or you could end up with a system you did not want
[05:16] <shanky> ls: /dev/sd*: No existe el fichero  directorio <- (It doesn't exist the file or directory)
[05:16] <ompaul> shanky, USB ?
[05:16] <Techno_2> mkinitrd still won't work :(
[05:16] <BuCKetHeaD27> which url?
[05:17] <elsie-dee> lemur, according to the gaim faq that is how i must do it
[05:17] <varsendagger> twager, is that live 365 ?
[05:17] <HotDrive> isn't there a way to do all this opperations beeing root from the start?
[05:17] <shanky> ompaul: I'm asking about a sata hd, it has nothing to be with USB, I think
[05:17] <Techno_2> Where do I get mkinitrd from?
[05:18] <twager> Virgin Radio...
[05:18] <lemur> elsie-dee:  I haven't used gaim for at least a year, but using a new protocol was a matter of enabling and configuring a gaim plugin
[05:18] <lemur> elsie-dee:  what are you trying to do, exactly
[05:18] <twager> In Preselections..
[05:18] <elsie-dee> enable url catching for messenger protocols
[05:19] <lemur> shanky: are you using the raid bios to create a sata raid?
[05:19] <elsie-dee> the gaimn plugin is part of it
[05:19] <stamen81> hello
[05:19] <HotDrive> ok, I was abble to create the directory and copy the files... now I just have to delete the ones I copied first... the del command is?
[05:19] <shanky> lemur: mmm, I didn't touch the bios
[05:19] <shanky> I'm gonna check it
[05:19] <stamen81> how to unmount a network place in Remote places ?
[05:19] <lemur> shanky: are you presenting a raid to linux, or just a single drive?
[05:19] <twerp71> I can connect wirelessly using f5d7011 pc card but have to manualy start the connection, is there a way of making it automatic?
[05:20] <varsendagger> twager, i'm not geting anything 404   not found
[05:20] <tdshiv> hey, i am completely new to linux, is there any particular beginners guide to help me get started? like how to add source urls to teh source list and how to install xtest extentions?
[05:20] <varsendagger> it is there in the selections
[05:21] <twager> Thats great...So do I..I can get anything else but this barfed today...
[05:21] <ompaul> shanky, okay you can't mix ide and sata when installing its a dog - you need to use ide as the first drive iirc
[05:21] <HotDrive> can anybody tell me the delete command?
[05:21] <lemur> tdshiv, you might have a look at debian.org documentation, but you want to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:21] <twager> I can ping the server ok though..
[05:22] <HotDrive> ...or a way to enter as the root...
[05:22] <EmxBA> hi everyone
[05:22] <tdshiv> lemur, i tried to edit the list, but when i tried to replace teh existing file, it would not let me
[05:22] <tdshiv> said i did not have the access permissions necessary
[05:23] <lemur> tdshiv, if you are using ubuntu, you likely already have XTEST installed.  You can check with 'xdpyinfo |grep XTEST'
[05:23] <lemur> tdshiv, that file belongs to root, you must be root to replace that file
[05:23] <tdshiv> how do i become root?
[05:23] <lemur> sudo su -
[05:24] <lemur> or if you just use vi
[05:24] <EmxBA> gnomefreak: i remember you from yesterday....could you help me
[05:24] <ompaul> !tell HotDrive about commands
[05:24] <ompaul> !root
[05:24] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:24] <lemur> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:24] <tdshiv> ah i see, i am root now
[05:24] <ompaul> lemur, we don't tell people that version of the command
[05:24] <lemur> :)
[05:24] <shanky> ompaul: I have alreay installed kubuntu in the ide drive
[05:24] <tdshiv> thanks lemur
[05:24] <lemur> ompaul, sorry
[05:24] <tdshiv> that was a huge help
[05:25] <tdshiv> thanks again
[05:25] <ompaul> lemur, what should be there if at all is sudo -i
[05:25] <lemur> won't happen again
[05:25] <ompaul> lemur, point them at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:25] <gnomefreak> EmxBA: whats wrong?
[05:26] <EmxBA> gnomefreak: thanks god! you remember me
[05:26] <lemur> ompaul, good tip.  I first used sudo last week.  On BSD i have always su -l so...
[05:26] <EmxBA> igo on PM
[05:26] <gnomefreak> give me a few days i could forget ;)
[05:28] <lemur> afk, my children are fighting
[05:28] <kermitX_> let 'em go.... when it's all done, maybe you get lucky and have one less mouth to feed. ;)
[05:28] <varsendagger> i've been trying to go in through the web page but i'm not getting anything
[05:28] <varsendagger> twager, ^^^
[05:28] <HotDrive> the rm command cannot delete a directory, only files?
[05:28] <lemur> rm -r
[05:28] <twager> Hello..
[05:29] <Subhuman> hey, im getting this error"   libdrm-dev: Depends: libdrm2 (= 2.0-0ubuntu1) but 2.0-0ubuntu7 is to be installed ". i kno a apt-get remove libdrm2 && apt-get install libdrm2 will fix it, but libdrm2 is required by ALOT of packages, anyway to reinstall without having to remove all the things that depend on it?
[05:29] <leethal> how come the update manager tells me that there's no updates from a CD I burned 6 months ago?
[05:30] <twager> I get the same result...Maybe a glitch in the system...Tomorrow will tell..
[05:30] <varsendagger> waht is a .asx file
[05:30] <lemur> leethal, if you boot from a live cd the update manager is somewhat disabled
[05:30] <Subhuman> varsendagger, a movie file
[05:30] <varsendagger> twager, so you usually get it
[05:30] <varsendagger> Subhuman, thanks
[05:30] <Techno_2> How do I make the initrd file?
[05:31] <twager> It was ok a few days ago..
[05:31] <varsendagger> hey i have a script i want to run it when the system starts up and then roughly every 6 hours
[05:31] <varsendagger> twager, twager, must be a tweak in the system
[05:31] <lemur> varse dagger, crontab is your friend
[05:31] <HotDrive> It worked! thank you all for the help. sorry for th dumb questions but I'm using linux for 3 days, so... kind of newbie...
[05:31] <lemur> varsedagger, crontab is your friend
[05:32] <varsendagger> is that a program that i can run
[05:32] <paul_> Ive got a newbie question of course. How do you set screensavers in ubuntu? For that matter another app synoptic package manager throws an error saying no such file. Help please:)
[05:32] <lemur> hotdrive, everyone starts somewhere :)
[05:32] <linuxcrazy> ok guys, I have an Ubuntu problem
[05:32] <linuxcrazy> this guy had a ISA ethernet card, and now he knows that ISA and Ubuntu don't work
[05:32] <Draconicus> That's what this channel is for.
[05:32] <linuxcrazy> He has put a PCI card in
[05:33] <lemur> varsendagger crontab is a program.  If you like man pages, man crontab, man 5 crontab
[05:33] <Draconicus> linux_galore: They can. Just not really well with ethernet cards. Most ISA ethernet cards are 10Mbit. You don't want to use them anyway.
[05:33] <linuxcrazy> but he has to tell Ubuntu to take it, right?
[05:33] <linuxcrazy> right ok
[05:33] <mjr> (ISA stuff works, just probably not automatically. That's not the ISA way :)
[05:33] <h3sp4wn> linuxcrazy: If it is a non pnp isa you have to specify the memory addresses it needs
[05:33] <varsendagger> lemur,
[05:33] <varsendagger> thanks
[05:34] <xerath_> Since i reconfigured locales to set my system locale to iso-8859-1 instead of UTF-8, the system (ie perl) complains about missing locale support every time I install new packages. I feel like I'm missing some localesupport.. Any idea where I can get this? (dapper rc server amd64)
[05:34] <Draconicus> linuxcrazy: I strongly suggest you just invest in a PCI ethernet card. They're not expensive, and they blow away ISA.
[05:35] <Blippe> what is the name of tht package which counted the number of ubuntu-installations?
[05:35] <EmxBA> linuxcrazy: ISA cards are old and almost are not in use anymore
[05:36] <Napoleon> Any ISP I've been with will give you a free ethernet card if you don't have one...
[05:37] <Napoleon> Well except back when it was dialup of course.
[05:37] <xerath_> dialup is so 1980s :p
[05:37] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[05:37] <xerath_> along with ISA hehe
[05:37] <paul_> oh well off to research more on my ubuntu problems. Later gators
[05:37] <h3sp4wn> 90's probably more than 80's
[05:38] <Lord_Athur> I want to get some Ubuntu CDs at https://shipit.ubuntu.com/, but, will the be the version 6.04?
[05:38] <varsendagger> hey how do i change the mousover properties
[05:38] <piller> Is this the place to discuss possible dapper RC bugs?
[05:40] <Lord_Athur> Please, could anyone answer my question?
[05:40] <lufis> Where did configuration editor go in dapper?
[05:40] <Napoleon> piller: #ubuntu+1
[05:40] <leethal> lemur: no, I'm on an installed ubuntu
[05:40] <PyroMithrandir> Lord_Athur, there won't be a 6.04
[05:40] <PyroMithrandir> there will be a 6.06
[05:40] <piller> Napoleon: thanks.
[05:41] <NickGarvey> the release numbers are based on the dates
[05:41] <Draconicus> lufis: Use the Alacart menu editor to enable all items in the "System Tools" menu.
[05:41] <PyroMithrandir> it will officially come out in a few days, but there is a stable release candidate out if you want to get that
[05:41] <NickGarvey> its being released in june 06, 06.06
[05:41] <lufis> Dracon, why in god's name was it removed anyway?
[05:41] <xerath_> Since i reconfigured locales to set my system locale to iso-8859-1 instead of UTF-8, the system (ie perl) complains about missing locale support every time I install new packages. I feel like I'm missing some localesupport.. Any idea what the packagenames would be? (dapper rc server amd64)
[05:41] <lemur> varsendagger: System -> Preferences -> Windows
[05:41] <Draconicus> lufis: Beats the hell out of me. I never figured that out either.
[05:41] <lufis> Dracon: Thanks ;)
[05:42] <Napoleon> NickGarvey: purposefully on 6/6/6 ?
[05:42] <Lord_Athur> so PyroMithrandir when may I try to get one (Drapper)? do you have a date?
[05:42] <Draconicus> lufis: You're very welcome. )
[05:42] <Draconicus> :)*
[05:42] <PyroMithrandir> you can get the release candidate now, Lord_Athur
[05:42] <nixuser> whats a good ap for converting mp3 to wav in ubuntu?
[05:42] <Lord_Athur> :)
[05:43] <lemur> leethal: then I would guess that it has somethign to do with /etc/atp/sources.list
[05:43] <Healot> nixuser> LAME
[05:43] <Draconicus> nixuser: Audacity. Be sure to install the appropriate libraries.
[05:43] <nixuser> lame is command line correct?
[05:43] <Lord_Athur> I've to go, many thanks to all
[05:43] <Napoleon> Lord_Athur: Dapper
[05:43] <nixuser> ok i thought about audacity, what are the appropriate libs?
[05:43] <Draconicus> nixuser: LAME is command line. Audacity is an extensive graphical mixer.
[05:43] <malbicho> hello all, im having a kernel panic anyone can help me?
[05:43] <nightshift> hi. i want to upgrade my Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) to 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake), but when I execute the command: gksudo "update-manager -d", as the Ubuntu site instructs, I get the following message when the program wants to download and install the upgrade: "Could not calculate the update. An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade."  I don't recall the exact...
[05:46] <linuxcrazy_frame> anybody want to help?!
[05:46] <linuxcrazy_frame> lol
[05:46] <Draconicus> !patience
[05:46] <nightshift> no. still the same problem again...
[05:46] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[05:46] <kermitX_> lol, it's in the WIKI ! :)
[05:46] <linuxcrazy_frame> ok
[05:46] <linuxcrazy_frame> link please?
[05:46] <lemur> ifdown eth0
[05:46] <xerath_> Since i reconfigured locales to set my system locale to iso-8859-1 instead of UTF-8, the system (ie perl) complains about missing locale support every time I install new packages. I feel like I'm missing some localesupport.. Any idea what the packagenames would be? (dapper rc server amd64)
[05:46] <Napoleon> how do you grep from stdin
[05:46] <nightshift> Still cannot upgrade to dapper drake
[05:46] <malbicho> im having a kernel panic anyone can help me?
[05:46] <linuxcrazy_frame> lemur: is that it?!
[05:46] <Draconicus> nightshift: What are you doing?
[05:47] <Napoleon> like 'grep pattern output-from-netstat'
[05:47] <nightshift> gksudo "update-manager -d", as the Ubuntu site instructs
[05:47] <nightshift> Then I click on Upgrade
[05:47] <lemur> linuxcrazy_frame: what are you trying to do?
[05:47] <Draconicus> Hmm..
[05:47] <Draconicus> I've never heard of that not working before.
[05:47] <linuxcrazy_frame> this guy has installed an ethernet card after he install Ubuntu
[05:47] <linuxcrazy_frame> installed*
[05:48] <linuxcrazy_frame> he wants to hook it up to the internet
[05:48] <lemur> nightshift, i upgraded to dapper drake from unbuntu 5.10 by changing every breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:48] <nightshift> ok i'll try... tnx
[05:49] <linuxcrazy_frame> any ideas?
[05:49] <Draconicus> linuxcrazy_frame: It's not ISA, is it?
[05:49] <lemur> nightshift: then I ran sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:49] <linuxcrazy_frame> Draconius: no
[05:49] <varsendagger> hey how do i make a program run sudo without having to type sudo everythinme
[05:49] <Draconicus> It should work on its own...
[05:49] <lemur> varsendagger, what user must the script runner under?
[05:49] <gandm> Hi there! I've recently (well, yesterday) updated to dapper dracke and I'm loving it so far. The only trouble I have lies in the awesome new deskbar feature the new gnome sports. Now, the problem is that it works fine when I input an e-mail adress (evolution starts), but it doesn't work when I want to search google, amazon or any other of the web-thingies (I also can't open a webpage from within the deskbar)... Has anyone got an a
[05:49] <gandm> nswer to that? Thanks in advance.
[05:50] <DBO> gandm, make sure your default browser is configured
[05:51] <varsendagger> lemur, i want to run it with crontab and as i can see i need to be logged in as my regular user to have it run
[05:51] <nixuser> seems audacity works just fine here
[05:51] <crazy_penguin> same here
[05:51] <Draconicus> gandm: I don't have an answer, but I will note that I personally hate Deskbar as a replacement for the Command Line applet. :P
[05:52] <acx4> Hi anyone know hot to get a Lexmark 6750 working in ubuntu Drapper Drake?
[05:52] <ere> 40 teachers with laptops wants to have access to shared filesystems. Currently they all have a local user account on their pc with identical usernames on all pc's (teacher). How would you implement a authentication system? LDAP is nice as long as they are connected to the network, but they are not all the time. Maybe a local useraccount as well as an account in the LDAP dir with the same user id?
[05:53] <gandm> thanks DBO, i'm going to look into that... @Draco: well, I thought so too first (as it replaced my command line applet without asking), but I got used to it pretty fast
[05:53] <Draconicus> I think the Deskbar and Command Line applet should have remained separate. The Deskbar lacks half the functions of the Command Line applet, such as autocompleting and editing reinputted, historically entered commands.
[05:54] <wubrgamer> hey gusy
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> what is the proper way to change the default system editor to vim (from nano I think it is) using update-alternatives ?
[05:55] <gandm> hmm, I didn't miss the auto-completion till you pointed it out... gnah :/
[05:56] <wiggieXpectsLess> quick question: can i install listen media player in breezy badger?
[05:56] <wiggieXpectsLess> i tried and failed
[05:56] <wubrgamer> quick thing, i want to install ubuntu on an old p2, but i'm not sure whether or not to install the dapper release (i am willing to put up with bugs and quirks if i can just apt-get upgrade them all way when dapper final releases) or breezy...and breezy is nice, but i'd rather not mess with upgrading from one version of breezy to dapper...much rather just have dapper.....
[05:57] <gandm> DBO, thanks a lot, seems like the defaults got messed up with the install, after changing to firefox the deskbar now works as advertised :)
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> wubrgamer: If don't have alot of ram you should use xubuntu or kanotix
[05:57] <wubrgamer> i've got 512
[05:57] <wubrgamer> but it's in a 400 mhz system
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> wubrgamer: ubuntu should probably be ok with 512
[05:57] <DBO> gandm, glad to help
[05:58] <EmxBA> gnomefreak: are you back
[05:58] <lemur> varsendagger, i have been trying to send you private messages.  Did they work?
[05:58] <wubrgamer> nope
[05:58] <wubrgamer> sorry
[05:59] <darius_> ntp-server won't install on a fresh Dapper RC1.  "User ntp does not exist"  I have another Dapper install that was upgraded from 5.10 and it works fine
[05:59] <EmxBA> does anyone know how to solve hibernating
[05:59] <darius_> my working system does not have an 'ntp' user
[05:59] <batman> just wondering but are there any extra drivers i can download for ethernet cards?
[05:59] <wubrgamer> oh, if i install the dapper RC, and upgrade regularly, will it be the same thing as me installing a fresh copy of dapper on the day it comes out ?
[06:00] <Hobbsee> wubrgamer: yes
[06:00] <wubrgamer> thnx
[06:00] <ronlybonly> I have a question about the Ubuntu forums: How do the "beans" work? Doe you get a bean for each post you make or each post on a unique thread or what?
[06:00] <wubrgamer> all i wanted to know
[06:00] <wubrgamer> bye
[06:00] <wiggieXpectsLess> quick question: can i install listen media player in breezy badger?
[06:00] <EmxBA> i have notebook, and when I shutdown my computer and turn it on again it opens ~6 windows left in session before 2-3 days
[06:01] <varsendagger> lemur, no i forgot my password and i can't register
[06:01] <linuxcrazy_frame> lol
[06:01] <lemur> lol
[06:01] <lemur> ok, i'll resend them pub
[06:01] <varsendagger> ok
[06:01] <tag> ok
[06:02] <tag> I have a GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x, and my resolution is stuck at 640 x 480
[06:02] <varsendagger> great
[06:02] <batman> are there any drivers i can download for ethernet cards?
[06:02] <lemur> varsendagger: so crontab -e then put * */4 * * * /full/path/to/script
[06:02] <lemur> varsendagger: that will run the script every 6 hours (24/4 is 6)
[06:02] <lemur> varsendagger: there is a special way to express on startup in cron
[06:02] <lemur> varsendagger: @reboot /full/path/to/script
[06:02] <lemur> varsendagger: so you would have 2 entries in your crontab
[06:02] <lemur> varsendagger: as verified with crontab -l
[06:02] <varsendagger> how do i writeout in emacks
[06:02] <tritium> lemur: don't paste please.  Use pastebin
[06:02] <lemur> tritium, what is pastebin?
[06:02] <tritium> !pastebin
[06:02] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package]
[06:02] <NickGarvey> !tell lemur about paste
[06:03] <varsendagger> lemur, thanks
[06:03] <varsendagger> how do i make my default editor vi?
[06:04] <tag> anyone know?
[06:04] <lemur> ubuntu uses vim for vi, but I forget how to change it
[06:04] <apokryphos> varsendagger: use EDITOR variable, but it in bash profile/rc
[06:04] <lemur> ah, yeah
[06:04] <gnomefreak> varsendagger: sudo update-alternatives --all will let you change all you default items (cant remember what one is editor)
[06:04] <lemur> export EDITOR=vi
[06:04] <varsendagger> ohh
[06:04] <lemur> I am new to bash
[06:04] <lemur> and linux
[06:04] <NickGarvey> bash is what the cool kids use
[06:04] <NickGarvey> linux is what the cool kids use
[06:04] <lemur> I am used to BSD
[06:04] <lemur> and csh
[06:05] <Napoleon> how do you find the IP of somebody who is sending you a file on msn
[06:05] <Kentaur> Hi
[06:05] <tag> stupid thing
[06:05] <Napoleon> well, on gaim using msn protocol
[06:05] <NickGarvey> Napoleon: um.. is it a direct connection?
[06:05] <Napoleon> NickGarvey: Yeah I know it's not hard
[06:05] <NickGarvey> Napoleon: if it is then I'd use ethereal, otherwise you can't
[06:06] <Napoleon> Somebody told me before.
[06:06] <NickGarvey> Napoleon: it needs to go right to you though, not through the msn servers
[06:06] <Napoleon> convos go through the servers
[06:06] <Napoleon> file transfers are direct though aren't they?
[06:06] <NickGarvey> I don't know
[06:06] <tag> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]  (rev a2)
[06:06] <NickGarvey> if it is the open ethereal and capture the packets
[06:07] <bigfoot1> i downloaded  a pdf file with japnaese text. how when i copy the text and try to paste it, output is a bunch of unintelligble characters. what should i do?
[06:07] <funkyHat> I believe MSN file transfers are sent through the MSN servers
[06:07] <Haydre> Anyone here tried installing the latest ATI drivers? (8.25.18) I've been having a ton of problems getting them to work.
[06:07] <funkyHat> I could be wrong though
[06:07] <NickGarvey> Napoleon: here, if you really want their ip, just have them go to http://nickgarvey.no-ip.org
[06:07] <NickGarvey> I'll give it to you
[06:07] <lemur> nickgarvey: bsd is what the adults use :)
[06:07] <speedo_> is ther anyone ,know how use gdesklets
[06:07] <speedo_> ?
[06:07] <NickGarvey> lemur: haha nice
[06:08] <funkyHat> lemur, lol
[06:08] <varsendagger> lemur, thanks
[06:08] <gnomefreak> speedo_: what do you need to know?
[06:08] <Haydre> Been getting this error message when trying to set up initial configurations: "Found fglrx primary device section
[06:08] <Haydre>  Nothing to do, terminating."
 It would be nice to have something using Freevo or MythTV, so you can have a user friendly kind of winmce
[06:10] <VincentMX> on linux
[06:10] <varsendagger> lemur, i know i saw a way to edit the sudousers and put a file in but i don't know how
[06:10] <gnomefreak> VincentMX: both run on linux
[06:10] <varsendagger> VincentMX, apt-get install mythtv
[06:10] <lemur> varsendagger, I just started using sudo/ubuntu last week
[06:11] <VincentMX> gnomefreak, i know, but by default
[06:11] <VincentMX> as standard interface
[06:11] <Haydre> Anyone know how to uninstall older ATI drivers? I think that might be my problem.
[06:11] <varsendagger> lemur, ubuntu is pretty killer
[06:11] <nzx> i get a segmentation fault when i run mythtv
[06:11] <lemur> varsendagger: so I would have to man sudo to catch up with you :)
[06:11] <varsendagger> maybe i should do that
[06:11] <gnomefreak> i think they are both non-free  if they are non-free no
[06:12] <lol> boa tarde
[06:12] <lemur> varsendagger: are you you sure you need to sudo?
[06:12] <lol> olaaaa?
[06:12] <EmxBA> hi again!
[06:12] <NickGarvey> !es
[06:12] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:12] <lemur> each user has his/her own crontab
[06:12] <VincentMX> so you can get a Mediabuntu (just an idea) with Freevo as default inteface, instead of Gnome or KDE or XFCE
[06:13] <VincentMX> would be a nice idea
[06:13] <lol> no puto tu cala-te ubotu
[06:13] <lemur> if you need to run programs on a regular schedule, crotab is the proper place for that
[06:13] <EmxBA> VincentMX: what is Mediabuntu
[06:13] <lemur> a pipe dream
[06:13] <lol> ubuntu e tu lemur
[06:14] <petezz> lemur: he meant crontrab
[06:14] <gnomefreak> lol: join #ubuntu-es
[06:14] <lemur> lol is not speaking spanish
[06:14] <lol> no
[06:14] <NickGarvey> !pt
[06:14] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:14] <lemur> more like portugese
[06:14] <NickGarvey> they are pretty close
[06:14] <nzx> hey, can someone help me to get a command running when gnome loads, i've tried using the session manager, but its not woking
[06:14] <gnomefreak> than join #ubuntu-pt
[06:14] <lol> sim agora ja entrei
[06:15] <varsendagger> lemur, yeah i am editing my /etc/resolv.conf   and i need to do it with su privalages
[06:15] <lemur> doh, i hate it when I cannot type :)  Yes, I meant crontab.
[06:15] <varsendagger> nzx, try using crontab
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> lemur: crontab -e
[06:15] <gnomefreak> varsendagger: why cant you do it with sudo?
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> lemur: sudo crontab -e for roots
[06:16] <varsendagger>  @reboot /full/path/to/script
[06:16] <lemur> varsendagger, is there a specific event that causes you to need to update your resolv.conf?
[06:16] <gnomefreak> varsendagger: use sudo -i
[06:16] <Diiba> Could someone please tell me a alternative for ROX filer (desktop drawer, program).
[06:16] <Diiba> The problem with rox was the root menu.
[06:16] <varsendagger> gnomefreak, i can and i do it all the time with sudo
[06:16] <VincentMX> EmxBA, i was reffering to a coversation before
[06:16] <Diiba> I couldn find it.
[06:16] <Diiba> :(
[06:16] <varsendagger> but i don't want toi do it any more
[06:16] <Diiba> *couldn't
[06:16] <VincentMX> EmxBA, scroll up
[06:17] <nzx> varsendagger, could you walk me through it ?
[06:17] <varsendagger> lemur, my dhcp.blah    or somthing resets my /etc/resolv.etc
[06:17] <lemur> yeah, that sounds right
[06:18] <varsendagger> nzx yeah if you do export EDITOR=vi
[06:18] <lemur> i made my resolv.conf unwritable
[06:18] <lemur> because I run my own nameserver and don't want dhclient to hose it
[06:18] <lemur> actuall i flagged it immutable
[06:18] <nzx> varsendagger, i use vi
[06:19] <lemur> but it is not on linux
[06:19] <ompaul> lemur, "format" does not respect the immutable tag :)
[06:19] <varsendagger> lemur, i tried that somehow and i broke my system    then i tried to edit the dhcp   and i broke my system
[06:19] <varsendagger> i know that this will work
[06:19] <varsendagger> nzx , great
[06:19] <gholias> h3sp4wn, sorry dude, a problem here, Im back
[06:19] <varsendagger> ( i just learned thi one 15 minutes ago
[06:20] <Thinjon100> Hey, I'm running Dapper 6.06, with an nVidia card.  I had my system running well with the nVidia drivers downloaded/compiled from their site, with twinview and all configured... I attempted to follow the HOWTO on installing compiz/xgl, but it caused my X server never to load (some errors with GL libraries)... I've since removed the modifications mentioned in the HOWTO, but now every time I boot, my X server fails to start, and I have to re
[06:20] <Thinjon100> -run the nVidia driver installation program... any ideas?
[06:20] <gholias> h3sp4wn,  did you saw the network info?
[06:20] <lemur> ompaul :)
[06:20] <varsendagger> nzx    in a console do crontab   -e
[06:20] <varsendagger> nzx   if you didn't do the EDITOR=vi then it may go to emac
[06:21] <Napoleon> Thinjon100: just an idea, but have you reconfigured xorg-xserver yet?
[06:21] <lemur> or worse, nano
[06:21] <AngryElf> /dev/ttyS0 = com1 and if it exists than the kernel has detected the port right?
[06:21] <nzx> varsendagger, i dont have emacs installed, i dont think
[06:21] <lol> ubotu um quando entrei no canal disse beleza lol
[06:21] <ubotu> lol: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:21] <lemur> nzx then it might use nano
[06:21] <lol> hahaha
[06:21] <varsendagger> so then type    @reboot /path/to/file
[06:21] <h3sp4wn> gholias: yes I did yes (try this : remove the line from the bottom of /etc/modprobe.d/aliases - and try rebooting the machine with the onboard ethernet disabled in the bios (I just want to see whether its detected properly then or there is a conflict between the two drivers))
[06:22] <varsendagger> i just don't know how to use nano
[06:22] <Thinjon100> Napoleon, I haven't done anything that explicitly mentions that, forgive me if I'm a bit naive, but is that just modifying the xorg.conf file? Because I checked that... or is there something else I should be looking at?
[06:22] <lemur> hey, i've seen that before :)
[06:22] <ompaul> lemur, this (debian style) has one serious difference between it and most other versions of the world, if you install something then we assume you want to run it, so unless it needs lots of TLC to get right it is launched, so turning off dhclient by using system administration networking, you can set a static ip then you can set all the other options
[06:22] <Napoleon> Thinjon100: correct, it modifies xorg.conf
[06:22] <Napoleon> but it might be worth a try to see what it does
[06:23] <nzx> varsendagger, ok done, just save and reboot ?
[06:23] <varsendagger> yeah i think so
[06:23] <SZF> anyone got a linwksys wireless-b usb dongle?
[06:23] <gholias> h3sp4wn,  ill try this
[06:23] <gholias> hold on
[06:23] <nzx> varsendagger, and will this run everythime i load my machine ?
[06:23] <Thinjon100> Napoleon: the nVidia installation program modifies xorg.conf as its last step, and that's normally what gets X working, (after the install script, I run startx and it works) what puzzles me is why when I reboot, it doesn't work again
[06:23] <lemur> ompaul: yes, i've certainly seen that aspect of debian.  I've been using debian for about 3 months.
[06:23] <varsendagger> nzx   i think so
[06:24] <nzx> varsendagger, ok thanks alot, gonna reboot and check
[06:24] <ubun> ubotu gosto dela ou dele no sei como se chama
[06:24] <nzx> brb, fingers crossed
[06:24] <ubotu> ubun: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> gholias: get the output of dmesg and lshw saved
[06:24] <lemur> ompaul: but I was commenting about a freebsd system to varsendagger to show that I understood what he was trying to do
[06:24] <ompaul> ack
[06:24] <lemur> heh, if that makes any sense :)
[06:25] <lemur> ok, duty calls, i must fix this rehat box that is out of disk space :)
[06:25] <wubrgamer> is it safe for me to install grub on an XFS partition ?
[06:25] <Thinjon100> Where /is/ xorg-xserver, anyway?  the xorg.conf file is in /etc/X11, but I don't see xorg-xserver
[06:27] <h3sp4wn> lemur/ompaul/varsendagger: What is wrong with just setting up the dhcp server correctly
[06:27] <duneatreides> hello all
[06:27] <ompaul> h3sp4wn, nothing
[06:28] <lemur> h3sp4wn: my firewall gets it address via dhcp, but it runs dhcpd for the internal network, complete with it's own namesever and domains
[06:28] <SZF> if anyone has the linksys wusb11 v4.1, i really could use some help.
[06:28] <lemur> i want the firewall to use the native nameserver and not the broken ones my isp provides
[06:28] <h3sp4wn> lemur: So does mine it also gives its own address out as the nameserver by dhcp
[06:29] <Nogimics> Anybody here know of any HTTP Proxy tunnel software I can install on my unix box?
[06:29] <Healot> gnu httptunnel
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> Nogimics: stunnel ?
[06:30] <lemur> h3sp4wn: i want the firewall to use the native nameserver and not the broken ones my isp provides
[06:30] <lemur> ^native^local
[06:30] <HotDrive> hi again
[06:30] <funkyHat> Nogimics, tor?
[06:30] <Ratzilla> how do i check my last full charge capactiy on my battery?
[06:30] <McNutella> !dapper
[06:30] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[06:30] <Napoleon> is there a way to use ssh when udp ports are blocked on the computer that wants to connect and you can't change that?
[06:30] <lemur> ratzilla apm -z or zzz
[06:30] <Nogimics> I want it to be a private tunnel, one I can install on a domain I own
[06:30] <Nogimics> not something public like tor
[06:31] <HotDrive> another question... I had a program in 5.10 that ennabled me to install themes and wallpapers in Ubuntu... and now I can't find it in 6.06...
[06:31] <duneatreides> does any one here use Limewire?
[06:31] <NickGarvey> !tell duneatreides about limewire
[06:31] <lemur> nog: try running mod_proxy on your external server and using ssh to tunnel to it.  configur your browser to proxy off the tunnel you forward through ssh
[06:32] <duneatreides> specifically, what is a good program to use to download music
[06:32] <NickGarvey> duneatreides: walmart
[06:32] <leethal> are there any packages available for firefox 1.5?
[06:32] <duneatreides> wal-mart?!
[06:32] <Nogimics> F'lemur: way to technical for me lol
[06:32] <NickGarvey> duneatreides: (I don't approve of stealing music)
[06:32] <Nogimics> know of any tutorials?
[06:33] <Determinist> anyone with an idea of how to turn the notification area applet transparent?
[06:33] <lemur> nogimics: do you have apache running remotely?  and can you add mod_proxy to it?
[06:34] <Nogimics> I could install it lemur, would rather not install apache, was hoping there was something specific for me to use.
[06:34] <h3sp4wn> lemur: try adding post-up echo nameserver 127.0.0.1 > /etc/resolv.conf to /etc/network/interfaces (Its a hack but it will work)
[06:34] <Nogimics> just want to use my domain as a proxy
[06:34] <Thinjon100> When I use the Keyboard shortcuts preferences menu, the Volume controls all seem to control the "Headphones" volume, which has absolutely no effect... is there a configuration program or settings file comewhere to change that to affect PCM instead of headphone?
[06:34] <NickGarvey> Nogimics: oh http proxy
[06:34] <wiggieXpectsLess> does anybody use amaroK in gnome?
[06:34] <NickGarvey> Nogimics: I had one.. d something I hink
[06:35] <NickGarvey> Nogimics: tinyproxy might work..
[06:35] <wubrgamer> hey, what are the advantages of ubuntu and debian ?
[06:35] <NickGarvey> Nogimics: httptunnel..
[06:35] <lemur> h3sp4wn: I already have a working solution, going on 2 years.  It runs on freebsd so there is no /etc/network/interfaces.  But thanks for your help :).
[06:35] <Nogimics> looking at stunnel at the moment
[06:35] <apokryphos> wubrgamer: /msg ubotu relationship
[06:36] <wubrgamer> no suck nick
[06:36] <|lostbyte|> !repos
[06:36] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:36] <NickGarvey> wubrgamer: ...what?
[06:36] <apokryphos> wubrgamer: you typed it wrong
[06:36] <NickGarvey> oh haha
[06:37] <wubrgamer> no i didn't
[06:37] <Tux-Rox> Anyone familar with the deskbar and beagle live?
[06:37] <no-use> Hi, i just followed the XglHowto on the Ubuntu Wiki. Xgl works fine but some of the shortcuts don't. Does anyone knows what might be causing this? Thx
[06:38] <McNutella> simple question I hope, but where do I find mouse drivers? (optical genuis range)
[06:38] <h3sp4wn> lemur: You should be clear that you are not seeking an answer to anything then (I know that freebsd doesn't do that)
[06:38] <wubrgamer> actually
[06:38] <wubrgamer> that link was bunk
[06:39] <leethal> how can I install firefox 1.5 on ubuntu 5.10 without having to compile it from source? apt-get seems to contait 1.0.7 only..?
[06:39] <apokryphos> ubotu: no relationship is at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[06:39] <ubotu> apokryphos: okay
[06:39] <apokryphos> wubrgamer: there
[06:39] <h3sp4wn> leethal: get it from mozilla.org
[06:39] <leethal> h3sp4wn: I will have to compile it then, haven't I?
[06:39] <NickGarvey> !tell leethal about ff1.5
[06:39] <lemur> h3sp4wn: sorry about that.  I was expressing to varsendagger that I had a similar situation in that I don't like dhclient clobbering /etc/resolv.conf
[06:40] <Tux-Rox> McNutella, there are no "drivers" per se unless the manufacturer releases Linux drivers. All pointer device drivers are in the kernel.
[06:40] <h3sp4wn> has varsendagger sorted it out ?
[06:40] <leethal> oh.. I will ceck the wiki before asking from now on!
[06:40] <McNutella> Tux-Rox: how bizarre, as the "crazy mouse" syndrome" lives on, I thought it would be a driver problem.
[06:41] <varsendagger> i need to edit the visudoers     so that i can jsut add the program but i am not good at reading man files
[06:41] <Kizzo> http://ls60.narod.ru/baff.exe =)) cool 8)
[06:42] <lemur> h3sp4wn: I'm not sure.  He was trying to schedule a script to put it back that way he wanted it, but I was trying to tell him that if a specific event changes his resolv.conf, there may be a way to add localizations tot aht event so that it fixes itself  (client-exit-hooks, or similar approach to runa script after dhclient runs
[06:42] <lemur> varsendagger: I do not think that you really want to go that direction
[06:42] <Paavo> Strange. I just burned ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso to a CDRW and it fails the integrity check even though the md5sum of the image is correct and k3b verification reports the CD as being binary equal. What gives?
[06:43] <NickGarvey> Paavo: try the integ check in another computer?
[06:43] <Healot> Paavo: bad CD or bad writer
[06:43] <HotDrive> can anybody tell me how to install codecs?
[06:43] <NickGarvey> Healot: seems odd though because k3b says the image is equal to the cd
[06:44] <NickGarvey> !tell HotDrive about resticted
[06:44] <Healot> that draws down the bad writer
[06:44] <NickGarvey> damn it
[06:44] <NickGarvey> !mp3
[06:44] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:44] <wubrgamer> so umm
[06:44] <wubrgamer> that didn't help me much
[06:44] <Healot> or worse, bad RAM
[06:44] <NickGarvey> wubrgamer: what didn't?
[06:44] <lemur> afk
[06:45] <wubrgamer> debian vs. ubuntu
[06:45] <gryn> Hello.
[06:45] <Paavo> Even stranger: I just mounted the CD, md5sum'ed every file and they all matched to the md5sum.txt file on the CD.
[06:45] <NickGarvey> wubrgamer: oh I read it
[06:45] <NickGarvey> wubrgamer: seemed to be perfect to me
[06:45] <NickGarvey> Paavo: ok, then the integ check is stupid
[06:45] <NickGarvey> Paavo: ;) try it and see what happens
[06:45] <wubrgamer> all it said was that they were different
[06:45] <wubrgamer> and that ubuntu was a little more........current
[06:46] <Paavo> NickGarvey: I did. It isn't able to start X.
[06:46] <EmxBA> hi!
[06:46] <Thinjon100> Anyone know how to override gnome-keybinding's linkage of volume controls to the headphone channel? I want it to map to PCM... searching for configuration to no avail
[06:46] <varsendagger> lemur, ok so there are two things    1 i need tto figure out what is resettimg my /etc/resolv.conf    2. i need to run my script as root    ( edit the crontab like brfore)
[06:46] <NickGarvey> Paavo: that might not be the cd, did you try safe graphical mode?
[06:46] <wubrgamer> well. one more thing
[06:46] <gryn> Refering to http://packages.debian.org/unstable/sound/alsa-oss  .  I've my system setup so that if my programs use alsa everyone is happy (mixing, etc).  So I'm trying to get my OSS programs to use alsa.  I would like to use method #1 in the url, but am having difficulties.  Using method #2 works 100% .
[06:47] <Paavo> That may or may not be a related problem. The failing integrity check is what really baffles me.
[06:47] <wubrgamer> i am looking to install dapper, should i download the server ? or desktop cd ?
[06:47] <wubrgamer> and what is the difference ?
[06:47] <EmxBA> what is .ba for (ba.archive.ubuntu.com)
[06:47] <NickGarvey> wubrgamer: I did desktop cd, worked fine for me
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> varsemdagger: It will be when an interface goes up dhclient will reset it
[06:47] <Healot> Paavo: proceed with install/run the live CD
[06:47] <wubrgamer> but what's the differenvce ?
[06:47] <EmxBA> wubrgamer: for what do you need dapper? desktop or server? choose
[06:47] <Frogzoo> can anyone recommend me a decent dicionary with a nice friendly user interface?
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> varsendagger: try adding post-up echo nameserver 127.0.0.1 > /etc/resolv.conf to /etc/network/interfaces (Its a hack but it will work)
[06:48] <varsendagger> h3sp4wn,  like eth0
[06:48] <Paavo> Healot: As I said, the normal boot isn't able to start X. I'll have to try the safe mode next.
[06:48] <wubrgamer> i'm going to use it for a desktop, but i am NOT going to install with espresso, it's slow as shit.....i've used mepis's installer before
[06:48] <NickGarvey> Paavo: have other live cds worked?  like other distros?
[06:48] <JayBachatero> Hello.
[06:48] <NickGarvey> hello
[06:49] <EmxBA>  wubrgamer: why is espresso slow? i think it's good
[06:49] <ompaul> wubrgamer, easy on the language
[06:49] <Paavo> NickGarvey: I don't remember if I've run any live CD with this exact HW configuration, but I've run Breezy and then Dapper for months now without problems.
[06:49] <wubrgamer> sry
[06:49] <ompaul> np
[06:49] <varsendagger> h3sp4wn, everything that i have wanted to try is a bad hack
[06:50] <wubrgamer> because i'm using a really slow pc
[06:50] <JayBachatero> Last night I upgraded from 5.10 to 6.06.  Everything was working till i restarted.  When I restarted it said Kubuntu and on top of that my sound is gone >_<.  I checked to make sure that it was upgraded to ubuntu instead of kubuntu.  Everything says Ubuntu besides the loader.
[06:50] <wubrgamer> and livecd's are REALLY system intensive
[06:50] <EmxBA> sorry
[06:50] <ompaul> !dapper
[06:50] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[06:50] <Tux-Rox> For anyone who cares to know, I installed Picasa2 for Linux on Dapper, and it's pretty sweet! I recommend it for those that don't like f-spot.
[06:50] <h3sp4wn> varsendagger: That will do it every time the interface goes up it won't be reset (as far as I can gather)
[06:51] <EmxBA> hi again!
[06:52] <Thinjon100> Is tehre any difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu other than simply using KDE as opposed to Gnome as the display manager?
[06:52] <DBO> no
[06:53] <DBO> obviously GNOME comes with all the GNOME based apps, and KDE comes with all the KDE based apps
[06:53] <varsendagger> h3sp4wn, so i have /etc/network/interfaces open    what do i need to add
[06:53] <Thinjon100> ok, so it's just a matter of preference use
[06:53] <EmxBA> Thinjon: not really, there is a difference between package manageres (GNOME- synaptic, KDE- Adept)
[06:53] <gryn> I heard that if you play KDE binaries backwards...
[06:53] <EmxBA> DBO: yeah
[06:53] <NickGarvey> gryn: heh
[06:53] <varsendagger> ohh nevermind
[06:54] <EmxBA> Thinjon100: choose what you want, but IMHO GNOME looks bettter than KDE
[06:54] <varsendagger> ok lets see
[06:54] <mDot> looks can be changed to taste on either
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> varsendagger: post-up echo nameserver 127.0.0.1 > /etc/resolv.conf
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> varsendagger: under the iface eth0 section
[06:55] <wubrgamer> so umm, i want to install dapper without a livecd, do i use the server or alternatice cd ?
[06:55] <h3sp4wn> alternative
[06:56] <gholias> h3sp4wn, works, now i have 2 cards working
[06:56] <gholias> h3sp4wn, eth0 and eth2
[06:56] <Healot> wubrgamer: the live CD doesn't do install btw
[06:56] <h3sp4wn> gholias: what did you do ?
[06:56] <EmxBA>  wubrgamer: i told you, espresso isn't slow, I had several problems with it but I think it is fast...just make swap partition, in a case you don't have enough RAM
[06:56] <gholias> h3sp4wn, im not sure, i did a lot of things, but works
[06:57] <wubrgamer> i'd rather not play with it before final release
[06:57] <wubrgamer> i'm sorry
[06:57] <McNutella> if I want to update a package from a .deb file, how do I tell it to overwrite an older version ?
[06:57] <wubrgamer> not espresso
[06:57] <h3sp4wn> gholias: just change the every instance of eth1 to eth2 in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:57] <gholias> h3sp4wn, maybe was the kick
[06:57] <h3sp4wn> gholias: then run sudo ifup eth2
[06:57] <gholias> h3sp4wn, the both are uo now
[06:57] <mario_> hi
[06:58] <gholias> h3sp4wn, ok
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> gholias: But does it have an ip address assigned to it ?
[06:58] <fm> hi
[06:58] <gholias> h3sp4wn,  the first is the cable one, dhcp, its ok
[06:58] <plbgnr> hello, what risk does come with using repositories from apt-get.org? ...I want newer version of monodevelop than this in ubuntu breezy; Can eventualy anyone advice better way? thanks
[06:58] <gholias> h3sp4wn,  the second one, i put the ip 192.168.0.1
[06:58] <EmxBA>   wubrgamer: what do you realy want? explain it. do you want to install dapper or what?
[06:59] <h3sp4wn> gholias: You have to have it set correctly in /etc/network/interfaces or else it won't forward traffic
[06:59] <gholias> h3sp4wn, on the windows machine, i put the ip 192.068.0.2 and the gateway 192.168.0.1 (ubuntu server)
[06:59] <h3sp4wn> gholias: And its working now ?
[06:59] <wubrgamer> i want to install dapper using the methods i used to install breezy, you know, that blue and grey screen
[07:00] <gholias> h3sp4wn,  no, windows cant use internet
[07:00] <jaroslav> hello everyone, I want to know if there is somebody here that can tell sth. about 'time-of-day clock stopped' issue with Dell Inspirons and Dapper?
[07:00] <shaun_> <~~ using vmware to setup web server for finace's website... anyone care to help a poor frustrated guy out? (ubuntu/apache2/sql)
[07:00] <NickGarvey> wubrgamer: theres a text install
[07:00] <wubrgamer> and which cd contains that ?
[07:00] <h3sp4wn> gholias: Well you haven't changed /etc/network/interfaces then pastebin it
[07:00] <EmxBA> wubrgamer: i assume you know that default installation is the one using espresso
[07:00] <Healot> wubrgamer: the INSTALL CD
[07:00] <tortanick> hi all
[07:00] <jaroslav> this issue makes it impossible to start the computer at all, I had to remove 'coin-battery'
[07:00] <h3sp4wn> gholias: You will have to also set the dns servers manually for the windows machine
[07:00] <Healot> not the LiveCD
[07:01] <wubrgamer> aack, there are three online, a) desktop cd, b) server c) alternative........
[07:01] <wubrgamer> which one
[07:01] <EmxBA> wubrgamer: if you use LiveCD you'll must use espresso
[07:01] <gholias> h3sp4wn,  yes, I put the same ip from ubuntu dhcp conection, right?
[07:01] <EmxBA> if you choose install, than you can install it trough old installation
[07:01] <h3sp4wn> gholias: No
[07:02] <hunt0r> how can I prevent the bootstrap system from the live cd to load module?
[07:02] <wubrgamer> right, i'll just use the server install and rape servers for the bandwith i need to install ubuntu-desktop
[07:02] <tortanick> really simple question, dose Gedit's highlighting work well with python?
[07:02] <wubrgamer> later
[07:02] <minimouse> hello, please i need some help with software raid on ubuntu. ubuntu installer doens't recognize the hard drive at all (partitioner doesn't show any disks or partitions). laptop is toshiba portege S100 with 80GB RAID0 hard drive. Matter is very urgent.
[07:02] <varsendagger> hey it workde h3sp4wn
[07:03] <HotDrive> still cannot view dvd's... cannot install codecs