 Hi everyone, I just installe Lubuntu a few minutes ego, so far, so good.
[20:38] <arraybolt3[m]> @Christian_Cuban: Nice!
 I let you all know if and when something go wrong and I will ask for assistance here.
[20:40] <arraybolt3[m]> 👍
 That's why we're here, ask whenever you want (re @Christian_Cuban: I let you all know if and when something go wrong and I will ask for assistance here.)
 Excellent thank you. (re @Roberalz: That's why we're here, ask whenever you want)


[00:31] <Corey> perfm at it again in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:32]  * rww readies the ninjaop shuriken
[00:33] <Corey> rww: Quite.
[01:38] <rww> thoughts on this?:
[01:38] <rww> . !no, derivatives is <reply> Our channels provide support for Ubuntu and recognized derivatives only. If you're using an unofficial derivative, please use its support options instead, as there may be repository and software changes that affect your issue which we don't know about. For more information on recognized derivatives, see http://www.ubuntu.com/project/derivatives
[01:40] <rww> (I think that focusing on what we /do/ support is likely to be easier to do than listing what we /don't/ support, but I can just fix the outdated stuff on !derivatives if y'all disagree :)
[01:58] <persia> What's a "recognised derivative"?
[01:59] <persia> Could we be consistent with other docs, and call them "flavours" if they are part of Ubuntu, and not if they aren't?
[02:00] <charlie-tca> Lubuntu should be added to that list now
[02:01] <persia> Yep.
[02:01] <rww> persia: I'm just going off what the page says ;P
[02:02] <persia> Fair enough.
[02:02]  * persia schedules completely rewriting that page
[02:09] <rww> why am I not surprised that kiffa has BT history
[03:11] <rww> !joke > kiffa
[07:56] <popey> @btlogin
[08:14] <popey> !appeals
[08:22] <Tm_T> FYI
[08:22] <Tm_T> !ppa-purge
[08:24]  * popey grumbles at the webupd8 link
[08:26] <Tm_T> ye, we need an ubuntu wiki page for the information
[08:26] <Tm_T> but I'm lost with the said wiki, so...
[08:44] <Flannel> Tm_T: Come up with the contents, a few of us know how to slog through the wiki, we'd be happy to take care of that part.
[08:47] <Tm_T> I'll gather some txt
[10:04] <Tm_T> Some crude base with two methods, http://paste.ubuntu.com/626435/
[10:04] <Tm_T> I have no idea what the apt method do for an installed packages, does it downgrade to ones in the repository or not
[10:11] <Tm_T> apparently only removes the ppa from sources.list
[10:24] <ikonia> we must speak to the backtrack guys and get them to change the default xchat channel
[10:25] <Tm_T> ikonia: do they have a bugtracker?
[10:26] <ikonia> I don't know, I'm looking around the site now
[10:26] <Tm_T> yes they do have, redmine
[10:26] <Tm_T> http://redmine.backtrack-linux.org:8080/projects/backtrack
[12:29] <ikonia> Lasers is just offering random advice
 making any sense?
[14:18] <oCean> i lost track 10 minutes ago...
[14:18] <bazhang> he wants firefox.exe
[14:19] <bazhang> anyone checking out tiox and thegoodcushion in -ot?
[15:08] <ikonia> Pici: beat me to it
[16:58] <Pici> I'm pondering adding a factoid for !sasl.
[16:58] <oCean> !tor-sasl
[17:14] <rww> !-sasl
[17:14] <rww> !-tor-sasl
[17:15] <rww> well there's an anachronism for you
[17:15] <rww> !-tor-gpg
[18:53] <Tm_T> wh, wh wh, what did I do now?


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[12:44] <superm1_> rogue780, its already set
[12:44] <superm1_> to do so
[12:44] <superm1_> into /var/backups/mythconverg.sql.gz
[12:55] <rogue780> superm1_, right....problem then. yesterday when I managed to destroy mysql.... there was no /var/backups/mythconverg.sql.gz
[12:55] <superm1> on feisty packages, lets see how frequently that cron job runs
[12:56] <superm1> its weekly
[12:56] <rogue780> hmm....I'm a fan of hourly
[12:56] <rogue780> is that crontab under user mythtv?
[12:57] <superm1> yes
[12:57] <superm1> hourly backups!
[12:57] <superm1> lol
[12:57] <superm1> maybe only when your working on breaki..... er adding things to your setup
[12:57] <superm1> would you need hourly backups
[12:58] <rogue780> daily would be as long as I'd want to go w/o backing up
[12:58] <superm1> sudo su crontab -e -u mythtv
[12:58] <superm1> erno
[12:58] <superm1> sudo crontab -e -u mythtv
[12:58] <superm1> thats all you need
[12:58] <rogue780> you see....I do stuff that most linux users know not to do....or I accidentally have the wrong putty window open and apt-get remove stuff from the wrong server....
[12:59] <superm1> so you know just enough to be dangerous you say
[12:59] <rogue780> indeed
[01:00] <rogue780> it was really scary back when I started out w/slackware...I only had one user on my system....
[01:00] <rogue780> root
[01:01] <rogue780> it was super dooper... I got so tired of reloading slackware that I gave up on linux for a few years
[01:01] <superm1> well um be more careful
[01:01] <superm1> is my advice then
[01:01] <rogue780> I'm workin' on it
[01:04] <superm1> the guy who owns www.localhsot.com is a genius
[01:05] <rogue780> LOL I want that t-shirt
[01:05] <superm1> i've seen someone wearing it before
[01:05] <superm1> and just smiled
[01:07] <rogue780> I think I broke something...the other day I spilled diet coke on my laptop...and now my audio works only when it wants to
[01:07] <superm1> okay i've got my ubiquity thing done.  Daviey i have been in and out all day and consequently haven't touched the seeds, but when i get back from my brother's graduation party i'll try to
[01:12] <superm1> rogue780, catch you later
[01:12] <rogue780> see ya


[02:01] <wolfgang__> where do i get lubuntu?
[02:04] <wolfgang__> nvm
[06:38] <spoons_> greetings
[07:17] <DarkWormhole> Hi ALL!!!
[07:17] <DarkWormhole> Any here?
[07:17] <DarkWormhole> !admin
[07:18] <DarkWormhole> where all!??!
[07:18] <DarkWormhole> #ubuntu
[07:28] <DarkWormhole> HEY!??!?!
[07:28] <DarkWormhole> #pcmanfm
[07:31] <DarkWormhole> WHO HUMAN?!?!?!
[07:31] <DarkWormhole> oh :(
[07:31] <DarkWormhole> bb
[07:38] <Jak_Atackka> Hello! I'm scouring the Linux-related IRC channels of the internet, hoping that someone can help me. I'm trying to configure my bootloader, but for whatever reason it won't save any changes I make to the .cfg file. It's on a separate /boot partition (/dev/sda1), because my motherboard is UEFI-only. Does anybody know how I can set it so changes I make to the /boot partition are permanent?
[07:40] <Ascavasaion> HOw to I change my sound between the different sound engines like ALSA, etc.?  I ask because since I started using Lubuntu my external speakers are buzzing when plugged into the headphone jack.  Juyst want to see if it the jack, speakers, or sound engine.
[09:06] <Ascavasaion> HOw to I change my sound between the different sound engines like ALSA, etc.?  I ask because since I started using Lubuntu my external speakers are buzzing when plugged into the headphone jack.  Juyst want to see if it the jack, speakers, or sound engine.
[09:19] <Unit193> Well, do you have another speaker jack?  Some have one in front and back.
[09:21] <Ascavasaion> Unit193: No, only the one on this laptpo... and no other speakers to test with.  Hence why I thought if I moved to another sound engine it might work.  no idea what Lubuntu did to my Ubuntu installation.
[09:21] <Unit193> Fresh Lubuntu install?  If not, pulse could be running.
[09:22] <Ascavasaion> Unit193: No, I was on Ubuntu 11.04 and hated the new desktop, so I installed Lubuntu desktop.
[09:22] <Ascavasaion> It is since then that external speakers are buzzing.
[09:24] <Unit193> I'd check for pulse, and turn it off if it's running.  Could try a live Lubuntu CD, see if it does it.
[09:25] <Ascavasaion> how do I check if ALSA, Pule, etc. are running?  and how to start and stop them?
[09:26] <Unit193> ps aux |grep pulseaudio  for example.
[09:28] <Unit193> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio or https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture  though may have to "translate" some of that info to help with Ubuntu, but generally the same.
[09:29] <Ascavasaion> Okay, I can start and stop it, but still buzzing.
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: tried playing audio, then trying to mute different channels
[09:30] <Ascavasaion> I cnanot get it to work, whole system has gone unstable
[09:31] <Unit193> Open alsamixer and mute the mic, may try turning PCM down.
[09:42] <Ascavasaion> Aaaah, I figured out what the problem was.  I restarted the computer and noticed that the speaker was still buzzing when BIOS was loading and realised it could not be the OS as it had not begun loading yet.  Turns out that I have a through port for my laptop cooling stand and the speakers were picking up interference from their USB power source.  I plugged the speakers into their own USB port and perfect again.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: glad you got the gold
[09:47] <Ascavasaion> :)
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, if I install the notify osd like in the 'normal' ubuntu, will notifications switch to using that?
[11:31] <kanliot> i could guess, but i donno
[11:32] <kanliot> i know in 12.10 wer'e switching to the xfce notify
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> ahh is tahts what is used to show notifications in lubuntu :)
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> do you know the command used please?
[11:38] <Unit193> You should already have libnotify-bin with the "notify-send" command as I said.
[11:42] <Ascavasaion> I must say I like the general feel of this desktop manager... lxfe or lxce?
[11:43] <Ascavasaion> How would I check which desktop is actually loaded?
[11:43] <kanliot> Ascavasaion, i don't understand
[11:45] <Ascavasaion> hehe  How do I know what window manager I am running?  I have had Xubuntu and Lubuntu on here... so I am not sure.
[11:46] <kanliot> right click on the bottom panel
[11:46] <kanliot> select about
[11:47] <Ascavasaion> kanliot: Aaah, cool... LXDE it is :)
[11:47] <Ascavasaion> Would doing an apt-get remove xubuntu-* be a dangerous thing?
[11:47] <Unit193> !purelubuntu
[11:48] <Unit193> That{d work better.
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Unit193: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1166123/
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Unit193: yet I do get notifications appearing just above the lxpanel
[11:50] <Unit193> Alright, I was pretty sure, maybe that came in when I installed the xfce daemon, been a while.  It won{t hurt to install that, or even swap out daemons.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Unit193: might just have to :), should be ok
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> wooo only 8Mb
[11:52] <Unit193> I have it, greybird theme is good on xfce-notiyd
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> seems to be installed. I'll test it later. Thanks dude :)
[14:14] <silverarrow> does anyone know where to check for gnome mplayer configure?+
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: in ~/.config   maybe
[14:17] <silverarrow> I hope that`s it
[14:26] <Ascavasaion> Assignment completed and submitted, now I can take it easy again.
[14:30] <Meris> Would Lubuntu run well on a MacBook 2.1 (Core2 Duo, 1.83GHzx2, 4GB DDR2 RAM, Intel 950 GMA GPU (64GB shared) )? If so, should I choose the alternate, or the desktop installer?
[14:30] <Meris> I'm doing the install through BootCamp.
[14:32] <Meris> GPU: 64*MB* shared of course, silly me
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Meris: sure, its designed to be light and fast
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Meris: it'll install with the desktop installer
[14:35] <Meris> ActionParsnip, how convenient :-)
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> very, the Ubuntu default install is nice but it uses a few more resources than Lubuntu, hence the minimal requirements being lower for lubuntu
[14:39] <Meris> ActionParsnip, do you have link to the system requirements of Lubuntu? I couldn't find it in the docs nor on the site
[14:40] <kanliot> 128MB, 3 GB disk
[14:41] <Meris> kanliot, thanks, my intended config meets these requirements easily.
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> !requirements
[15:20] <silverarrow> hi
[15:32] <troii> hi
[15:32] <troii> i have been having a problem all day
[15:32] <troii> last night lubuntu was working fine, this morning i stopped
[15:33] <troii> after booting up, it hangs on for a while , then i get prompted with a shell, with explation "root busy" or something like that
[15:34] <silverarrow> maybe some killits in terminal?
[15:35] <troii> i dont know
[15:35] <troii> my other partition of windows works fine
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> troii: still around?
[15:47] <bioterror> sounds more like a busybox
[18:05] <nandhu> hi is it possible to hide an application from system tray
[18:05] <nandhu> ex: i run system-config-printer and in sytem tray that application is shown up and if i click it is minimising but i need to hid that
[18:39] <silverarrow> I think I started an upgrade I might not want
[18:39] <silverarrow> can I stop it?
[18:40] <silverarrow> ....oh horror
[18:41] <silverarrow> that is what you get for using terminal without a license
[18:41] <bioterror> well, you can always break your fingers ;)
[18:42] <silverarrow> hope it will be fine....
[18:44] <silverarrow> puh...
[20:06] <Jeeicy> Hello everybody
[20:08] <Jeeicy> Anybody here?
[20:27] <Meris> I'm trying to install Lubuntu alongside MacOSX Lion and Windows.  I know that my MacBook uses EFI instead, should I choose an efi partition(ignoring the recommendation) , or a reserved BIOS partion instead?
[20:28] <Meris> The Disk has a GUID partition table
[22:24] <silverarrow> hi
[22:24] <silverarrow> hi margo
[22:49] <silverarrow> hi margo
[22:55] <silverarrow> I heard rumors margo is the ppc cleverest of all
[23:50] <silverarrow> how do I get gnash to stay as default in midori?


[07:52] <LocutusOfBorg> Eickmeyer, sorry don't know...
[07:52] <LocutusOfBorg> this happens from time to time with devel
[07:53] <LocutusOfBorg> and gets usually fixed before release


[12:26] <Keybuk> http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~keybuk/upstart/main/revision/scott%40netsplit.com-20070620222502-rqg8aiw9kzt3h8t7?start_revid=scott%40netsplit.com-20070620222502-rqg8aiw9kzt3h8t7
[12:26] <Keybuk> ^ event expression trees have landed
[04:26] <Keybuk> heh
[04:26] <Keybuk> I had planned, this morning, to get rid of job->cause entirely
[04:26] <Keybuk> and so far I've been distracted by shiny new compiz-fusion features
[04:46] <ion_> I upgraded from beryl to compiz+compcomm recently.
[04:47] <ion_> Theres an interesting bug, which i havent got around to investigating yet.
[04:47] <thom> Keybuk: honestly, i'm shocked. :P
[04:48] <ion_> When i switch from a desktop to another using any largedesktop plugin, it seems to work fine, unless im switching from/to a desktop with Firefox as the active window. When that is the case, the movement is really jerky.
[05:04] <AlexExtreme> that's why i don't use compiz/beryl/whatever :)
[05:04] <AlexExtreme> when you're trying to do something, it's just too easy to get distracted with bouncing windows
[05:22] <AlexExtreme> sorry for the disconnects, my IRC bouncer is acting up
[05:25] <Keybuk> heh, silly things
[05:27] <AlexExtreme> there, that was the last one
[05:27] <Keybuk> which bouncer do you use?
[05:28] <AlexExtreme> bip
[05:28] <AlexExtreme> http://bip.berlios.de
[05:28] <ion_> alex: Whether the windows bounce depends on your configuration. :-)
[05:28] <AlexExtreme> ion_: of course ;)
[05:29] <ion_> The nicest thing is that when switching to another desktop, the windows dont need to be repainted. That makes it a lot faster on this 500 MHz machine.
[05:30] <ion_> *Even* when using a transition effect.
[05:30] <AlexExtreme> yep
[05:30] <AlexExtreme> I first tried compiz on a 700Mhz box when it was first released, it was quite fast
[05:32] <Keybuk> CPU speed shouldn't affect compiz
[05:33] <Keybuk> that's kinda the point <g>
[05:33] <Keybuk> fancy effects aside, the entire point is to offload all the boring screen management to the GPU
[05:33] <Keybuk> so more CPU resource is free
[05:34] <ion_> Indeed.
[05:35] <ion_> I meant that even showing the transition effect takes less time than having one of the bit more bloated programs repaint its window on this box.
[05:37] <Keybuk> true
[05:38] <Keybuk> in fact, in theory, the transition is free
[05:38] <ion_> Yeah.
[05:38] <Keybuk> because it's done using spare GPU capacity, rather than taxing the CPU
[05:39] <Keybuk> I do use some funny metasyntactic names
[05:39] <Keybuk> clearly for this test, I really wanted a name I wasn't likely to accidentally use later
[05:39] <Keybuk> so instead of foo, bar, baz
[05:39] <Keybuk> or frodo or bilbo
[05:39] <Keybuk> or wibble, wobble, waggle, wiggle, etc.
[05:39] <Keybuk> I used ...
[05:39] <Keybuk> biscuit
[05:39] <ion_> Hehe
[07:18] <Keybuk> there's one thing about specs that always bites
[07:18] <Keybuk> you always forget something, and have to retcon it when you write the code
[07:18] <Keybuk> e.g. the spec for replacing cause with event expressions
[07:18] <Keybuk> I had completely forgotten that a job is allowed to abort the stop in pre-stop
[07:20] <ion_> Looking up retcon from dictionary.com just spoiled a TV show. :-)
[07:20] <ion_> Not that id want to watch the show in question.
[07:21] <AlexExtreme> :)
[07:22] <Keybuk> retcon. v. to pretend the spec always said that ;)
[07:22] <ion_> :-)
[07:22] <AlexExtreme> :)
[07:29] <Keybuk> there's another state transition I forgot
[07:38] <AlexExtreme> why is it that every time i need to go somewhere it starts raining?
[07:38] <Keybuk> the weather here has marginally improved over the last few days
[07:39] <AlexExtreme> yeah, *marginally*, i.e. not raining constantly, just showers every 20 minutes ;)
[07:39] <Keybuk> EGBB 211720Z 16010KT 9999 -SHRA FEW020CB SCT030 16/13 Q1007
[07:41] <Keybuk> tomorrow's TAF is pretty mad
[07:41] <Keybuk> EGBB 211624Z<PHONE_NUMBER>0KT 9999 SCT025 BECMG 0205 11005KT PROB40 TEMPO 0210 7000 -RA BKN008 PROB30 TEMPO 1022 7000 SHRA BKN020CB PROB30 TEMPO 1120 3000 +TSRA BKN014CB BECMG 2124 4000 BR
[07:41] <AlexExtreme> what's that from?
[07:41] <Keybuk> metoffice aviation forecast
[07:41] <Keybuk> EGBB = Birmingham International Airport
[07:41] <AlexExtreme> ah
[07:42] <AlexExtreme> you're near birmingham?
[07:42] <Keybuk> 40% probability of light rain in the morning,
[07:42] <Keybuk> 30% probability of showers in the afternoon
[07:42] <Keybuk> and 30% probability of heavy thunderstorms in afternoon
[07:42] <Keybuk> in Birmingham yeah
[07:43] <AlexExtreme> cool, not too far from here
[07:43] <Keybuk> that somewhat explains why we've been experiencing equally dire weather ;)
[07:43] <AlexExtreme> :)
[07:45] <Keybuk> http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~keybuk/upstart/main/revision/scott%40netsplit.com-20070621173820-45cqbuufjbcft1sn?start_revid=scott%40netsplit.com-20070621173820-45cqbuufjbcft1sn
[07:45] <Keybuk> ^ \o/
[07:47] <Keybuk> actually, the current METAR isn't bad at all; perfectly flyable in fact
[07:48] <AlexExtreme> :)
[07:50] <Keybuk>  * If a job fails to reach its goal, all appropriate blocked events are marked as failed. Nodes with a FALSE value, and children of those nodes, are not considered since they have not caused the job to fail.
[07:50] <Keybuk> Urgh
[07:50] <Keybuk> I haven't worked out how to implement *that* yet
[07:50] <Keybuk> deciding which events in the expression tree to mark as failed
[07:50] <Keybuk> it's supposed to be "those that contributed to it starting in the first place"
[07:52] <AlexExtreme> Keybuk: would you mind greatly if I copied the nih linked list code to my project? i'd rather not link against libnih since i'm trying to keep the dependencies on this lib i'm writing to only libc
[07:52] <AlexExtreme> of course i'd add credits in the header (it's GPL, btw)
[07:52] <Keybuk> not at all
[07:52] <AlexExtreme> thanks
[07:52] <Keybuk> though you'd need nih_alloc as well, unless you modify it
[07:53] <AlexExtreme> k
[07:53] <Keybuk> (modify is easy enough, it's just nih_list_new, nih_list_entry_new, nih_list_destructor and nih_list_free)
[07:54] <AlexExtreme> yep
[09:27] <Keybuk> why do I only ever discover problems half way through an implementation?
[09:40] <Keybuk> today's problem:
[09:40] <Keybuk>   instance
[09:40] <Keybuk>   from tty-added
[09:40] <Keybuk>   until tty-removed $TTY
[09:40] <Keybuk>   respawn
[09:40] <Keybuk>   exec /sbin/getty $TTY 38400
[09:40] <Keybuk> nice and simple
[09:40] <Keybuk> what happens if
[09:40] <Keybuk>  a) the same tty gets added
[09:40] <Keybuk>  b) the tty gets removed, and another tty is added while the job is stopping
[10:22] <wasabi> I vote for proper lock/abort files. :0
[10:22] <wasabi> The instance gets spawned twice, but some nice chap tests to see if the instance is already spawned.
[10:24] <Keybuk> wouldn't it be nice if upstart took care of this for you? :p
[10:24] <wasabi> I don't really think so.
[10:25] <Keybuk> why not?
[10:25] <wasabi> got me.
[10:26] <wasabi> instance could be "unique per parameters"
[10:28] <Keybuk> yeah, which is interesting
[10:28] <Keybuk> but then do you restart the instance, or do you wait to create a new instance? :P
[10:29] <wasabi> Well, what happens if a start evnet happens twice in any non-instanced job
[10:29] <wasabi> Basically nothing.
[10:35] <Keybuk> indeed
[10:35] <Keybuk> need to think on this a bit
[10:48] <Keybuk> EGBB 212020Z 15006KT CAVOK 14/11 Q1008
[10:48] <Keybuk> CAVOK!
[10:48] <Keybuk> *cries*


[15:47] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Rhonda D'Vine: Political Correct Communication @ http://rhonda.deb.at/blog/2019/01/01#political-correct-communication
[19:44] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/ab37li/ubuntu_weekly_newsletter_559_debootstrap_speed/ .
[21:38] <Wild_Man> Cool, tell him thanks1
[21:39] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Did .. Oh I did :P
[21:39] <Wild_Man> I figured you did.
[21:40] <Bashing-om> We still have a new blood option ?
[21:53] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I think so but I have not heard from him yet
[21:54] <Wild_Man> I am paying bills online be back in a few minutes
[22:49] <Wild_Man> Looking for news to add
[22:51] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I looked early this AM .. did not see anything I wanted to report on :(
[23:10] <Wild_Man> This one came out Sunday morning https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/12/vlc-3-0-5-released-with-improved-youtube-support-hdr-support, you did not add it to last weeks uwn did you?
[23:10] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, ^^^
[23:15] <Bashing-om> looking .. ( kernel 4.21 ??)
[23:18] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Uh Huh .. we need to add that ^ one .. doing so at this time .
[23:19] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I added it that is why I asked
[23:23] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Good .. I did finish and re-format your entry .
[23:24] <Wild_Man> What was wrong with it? I could not remember exactly how to do it but I shortened it so I thought I might have gotten it correct
[23:26] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I added the header for the article. and removed the italics formatting for the URL, and set the mode for the page to "normal".
[23:29] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, what do you mean by "set the mode for the page to normal" where and how?
[23:31] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: When I went to ad the header, the page was set to insert ( green highlight) .. and I reset the page from " Normal Text" drop down in the tool bar .
[23:32] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I see I thought you were talking about the link and that confused me
[23:40] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: The link was in italics .. and I removed that formatting :)
[23:40] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, why? if it come that way?
[23:41] <Wild_Man> Has it been done that way all these years?
[23:42] <Bashing-om> "all these years" the links have been "normal" - else I would not have noticed the difference .
[23:54] <Wild_Man> The link was only wrong because the normal mode on google doc was incorrect, now I see about that as well
[23:55] <Wild_Man> I am doing 10 things at once so my attention is divided
[23:58] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: In this instance I can take up the slack :P


[13:16] <bakhosm> good afternoon
[13:35] <ghantoos> good afternoon bakhosm
[13:37] <bakhosm> how r u ghantoos
[13:37] <bakhosm> ?
[13:39] <ghantoos> bakhosm: doing good, and you? :)
[13:41] <bakhosm> fine 10x
[14:06] <ghantoos> that was a very interesting piece of conversation!
[14:06] <ghantoos> :)


[00:42] <bjh_> Hi, I am playing around with an old compaq deskpro EN and the Lubuntu 12.10 LIVE CD. Am I expecting too much of the LIVE CD to be able to load and run VNC-SERVER ? Installation thru the package manager doesnt seem to work. Thanks,
[00:56] <normanclegg> bjh_  livecd only uses ram
[01:08] <bjh_> "livecd only uses ram" Yes, this is the conclusion I am coming to.
[01:14] <phillw> bjh_: well, it try to use  a linux swap area if there is one set up.
[01:21] <Wolfgang__> I just installed lubuntu and im wondering where the appstore thing is?
[01:22] <phillw> Wolfgang__: it is not installed by default. It is a part ubuntu suite. It would require a lot of extra things to be installed into your lubuntu system.
[01:23] <Wolfgang__> oh ok nvm then
[01:23] <Wolfgang__> So is there an equivalent?
[01:24] <normanclegg> Wolfgang__ you mean like a repository of ready to install and run programs?
[01:24] <Wolfgang__> Yes
[01:24] <Wolfgang__> Terminal?
[01:24] <phillw> Wolfgang__: the process of it can be follwed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Software_Center
[01:25] <Wolfgang__> ok
[01:25] <Wolfgang__> Um, do i want tar.gz, rpm, or yum?
[01:25] <cerebrate> can you set new quicklaunch icons in the taskbar on lxde?
[01:25] <phillw> currently the lubuntu software center is on hold, due to a lack of people able to take it forward (knowledge of python required).
[01:26] <cerebrate> :C
[01:26] <phillw> Wolfgang__: from terminal, you would use apt-get
[01:26] <Wolfgang__> Ok but rpm tar.gz or yum
[01:26] <Wolfgang__> I know
[01:26] <Wolfgang__> Im getting flashplayer
[01:26] <normanclegg> Wolfgang__  i'd think .deb
[01:27] <phillw> Wolfgang__: you can try a tool called alien https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[01:27] <normanclegg> installing software in ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[01:28] <phillw> but, it is not guaranteed to work. You're better hunting down the .deb version and using Gdebi, which is included in lubuntu
[01:28] <Wolfgang__> sudo apt-get flashplayer?
[01:28] <phillw> Wolfgang__: I'm guessing you want the non-free version of flash?
[01:28] <Wolfgang__> Free
[01:28] <Wolfgang__> Is it automaticly installed?
[01:28] <phillw> Wolfgang__: you already have the free version.
[01:28] <Wolfgang__> Oh ok
[01:29] <Wolfgang__> thank you
[01:29] <Wolfgang__> what about java?
[01:29] <phillw> if you want the non-free, then you need to install the restricted extras.
[01:29] <Wolfgang__> OK is the free java there yet?
[01:29] <Wolfgang__> Or do i need to install?
[01:29] <phillw> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:30] <Wolfgang__> Im not looking for that
[01:30] <Wolfgang__> Is java automaticly there or not?
[01:31] <phillw> there is open source java interpreter installed. You would need to install the restricted ones for fuller functionallity.
[01:31] <normanclegg> Wolfgang__   no but open the package manager and choose it and install it.
[01:31] <Wolfgang__> Where is package manager?
[01:32] <cerebrate> i can find it by pressing the button in the lower right corner, then selecting settings, then selecting something from there that says package in it Wolfgang__
[01:32] <cerebrate> *LEFT CORNER
[01:32] <cerebrate> sorry
[01:32] <normanclegg> synaptic
[01:33] <phillw> Synaptic Package Manager is the default for lubuntu. Please bear in mind that running free and non-free versions will cause conflicts (crashes). That is why using the -restricted-extras is advised, as it removes those conflicts.
[01:33] <Wolfgang__> sun java right?
[01:34] <Wolfgang__> I only want the free version!
[01:34] <normanclegg> Wolfgang__   yeah, but most people don't need sun java runtimes anymore
[01:34] <phillw> Wolfgang__: on that page I pointed you to, it has the details on each of the things you are discussing. And, to repeat, you already have the free versions.
[01:34] <Wolfgang__> Wich java do i get then?
[01:35] <Wolfgang__> Of java?
[01:35] <Wolfgang__> I have free java??
[01:35] <normanclegg> Wolfgang__  google  for  "test java"  and see if it works.
[01:35] <Wolfgang__> ok
[01:36] <Wolfgang__> I dont have ut
[01:36] <Wolfgang__> it
[01:36] <phillw> Wolfgang__: you may need to add in some extra stuff for the openjdk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[01:36] <phillw> has the details, which is pointed to via the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:39] <Wolfgang__> Openjdk-6-jre?
[01:39] <Wolfgang__> is that the right one?
[01:40] <Wolfgang__> Yes or no?
[01:41] <phillw> Wolfgang__: I don't use Java, so I cannot advise.
[01:41] <phillw> http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=java
[01:42] <phillw> will give you a list of recent discussions on the forum about Java and hopefully somewhere to ask.
[01:42] <Wolfgang__> Its the right one i read it finally
[01:42] <Wolfgang__> Thank you for your help
[01:43] <phillw> glad you got there :D
[03:44] <NathanWW> best way to setup and install lubuntu on a panasonic toughbook cf-28 P3 600mhz, 384mb ram,
[03:45] <phillw> NathanWW: start with alternate iso,
[03:48] <NathanWW> thanks
[03:50] <phillw> P III seems to able to handle 12.04  384 Mb seems also seems to be able to run in 384, as the earlier ones would run in 256 Mb. I'm only saying that from mentions on testing chat and what people have found to be acceptable.
[03:51] <phillw> NathanWW: you may have issues with chromium, there is a lower resource browser available. But it is by default not as resource hungry.
[06:04] <NathanWW> so i installed the alt install version on a toughbook laptop, it boots up i see the lubuntu boot splash and then nothing cant ctrl + alt + f1 to get a terminal nothing power off and reboot back up and it does it again. since the installer finished and it rebooted... i think i may have issue with resolution set wrong perhaps, but how can i edit the boot loader so it does not load X so i can go
[06:04] <NathanWW> and check configs ect?
[06:40] <cerebrate> how do i switch to cli ui
[06:51] <phillw> cerebrate: cli to ui?
[06:52] <phillw> Menu --> Accessories --> Terminal
[06:56] <NathanWW> so i installed the alt install version on a toughbook laptop, it boots up i see the lubuntu boot splash and then nothing cant ctrl + alt + f1 to get a terminal nothing power off and reboot back up and it does it again. since the installer finished and it rebooted... i think i may have issue with resolution set wrong perhaps, but how can i edit the boot loader so it does not load X so i can go
[06:56] <NathanWW> and check configs ect?
[06:56] <cerebrate> ty
[06:56] <cerebrate> what about hotkeying or quicklaunching certain commands
[07:00] <phillw> NathanWW: cerebrate I am not on my lubuntu system. Can I suggest that you both / one of you head over to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ
[07:01] <cerebrate> y thank u
[07:02] <phillw> it has answers to both, you just need to look through the information. Please do not ask multiple times.
[07:02] <phillw> !ask
[07:02] <phillw> !duplicate
[07:03] <phillw> !Repeat | NathanWW
[07:03] <phillw> !Repeat | cerebrate
[07:04] <cerebrate> i had a mutated 'repeat' actually >.>
[07:04] <cerebrate> who cares XD
[07:04] <cerebrate> love wastin mah time here phil
[07:05] <cerebrate> <3 @ yall
[07:05] <phillw> cerebrate: we are all volunteers, please do not abuse us.
[07:06] <cerebrate> yeah no problem no trouble at all i guess
[07:06] <phillw> !topic
[07:35] <cerebrate> i tried using all those docs but i really need someone to hold my hand during this exploration of lubuntu
[07:35] <cerebrate> i know we tight on resource
[09:27] <jared_> cerebrate: if the online materials aren't enough you might want to try to contact someone from your loco who can provide further assistance - http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[11:09] <browser703> hello
[11:11] <browser703> so do we write here ?
[11:56] <crackerjackz> hello
[11:58] <crackerjackz> i was wondering what encryption algoryhtm lubuntu uses and does it encrypt the entire hard drive? is the swap encrypted? when you first install lubuntu it gives you the option to encrypt the hard drive
[14:18] <phillw> crackerjackz: have a read of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[14:25] <crackerjackz> phillw, i never had to go through any of that when i set it up.. when i installed lubuntu it gave me the option to encrypt the home directory or encrypt the hard drive i chose to encrypt the hard drive and it just did it all for me automatically.. when i boot the computer i have to enter a password then once it boots i have to entter the password for my login.. so the entire hard drive is encrypted right?
[16:18] <dorohoro> can someone recomend debian based distribution for computer with low hard disk space about 4G
[16:19] <cerebrate> pussylinux or puppylinux, info potentially available from #puppylinux
[16:19] <cerebrate> beta
[16:19] <dorohoro> ok
[16:20] <dorohoro> txh
[16:20] <cerebrate> they'll take work
[16:20] <cerebrate> to work
[16:20] <cerebrate> but they work
[16:20] <cerebrate> if they work
[16:24] <dorohoro> thats no problem
[16:24] <dorohoro> i will make it work :)
[16:24] <cerebrate> alright
[16:24] <cerebrate> ask for the ubuntu based distro i think
[16:24] <cerebrate> oh wow
[18:34] <alen_> d
[18:41] <cerebrate> hi jared
[18:43] <jared1990> hi anyone know the work arounds of lubuntu black screen first boot?
[18:47] <genii-around> !nomodeset
[18:58] <jared1990> thanks... i just did the nomodeset and the lubuntu loading screen appear. but it got stuck to it. does not load whatsoever
[19:46] <theixle> I'm using the lxde right-click menu (I think). I want to edit it. Where is that config file?
[20:23] <Vivekananda> hey everyone
[20:23] <Vivekananda> anyone around ?
[20:23] <Vivekananda> How do I get a minimalistic theme for ubuntu?
[20:23] <Vivekananda> lubuntu I mean
[20:30] <SilverLion> good evening ... please specify "minimalistic theme... lubuntu is already "light"
[20:32] <theixle> Wouldn't that be in the openbox settings?
[20:35] <Vivekananda> SilverLion: Hello and thanks for the greeting. Holstein helped out quite a bit very thankful to him. So I just started testing out lubuntu and
[20:36] <SilverLion> Vivekananda: to be honest: I have been through every *buntu distro available
[20:37] <Vivekananda> being a gnome user, its limitations. I have a couple of issues in here that I am hoping to iron out. A little bit of bacground. My system was lucid very old centrino dual core 800-1.6 ghz with radeon rv250 graphics
[20:37] <SilverLion> and the basic setting of Lubuntu is the best ... but that depends on the personal preference
[20:38] <Vivekananda> now everything in here ( lubuntu ) is fast and I like it. kupfer is doing itjob and helping out but I am missing out on somethings.I will enumerate the issues plus the preferences ( not necessarily Isuues ) I have
[20:38] <SilverLion> looking at your specs you might want to have a look at Xubuntu
[20:39] <Vivekananda> but X is heavier than L. I need fast and easy to access and I heard L is the fastest of ubuntus
[20:40] <phiscribe> i think l is faster than x. i find you can speed up lubuntu by turning off some of the window animations
[20:41] <Vivekananda> phiscribe: how do I do that ?
[20:42] <Vivekananda> I am fine with no animations but I want my videos to play fast and well
[20:44] <phiscribe> its the iconify and minmize anitmations im talking about its in a pref file, let me look around a sec
[20:45] <phiscribe> its  ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml  open with sudo in an editor, find  <animateIconify>yes</animateIconify>  change to  <animateIconify>no</animateIconify>
[20:46] <Vivekananda> already done and it is already off !! :)
[20:46] <phiscribe> ah
[20:47] <Vivekananda> Let me begin by saying that this system not 6 days ago was decently fast on Lucid. I was expecting it to be faster on lubuntu 12.04 and it is that to an extent but some glitches which I would like to iron out
[20:48] <cerebrate> i wanted to contribute to lubuntu too :D
[20:48] <phiscribe> i went to 12.10 awhile back
[20:48] <cerebrate> but learning how to get by with unix would do just as well for my aspirations
[20:48] <Vivekananda> as I said above there are some issues ( to remedy) and there are some preferences( not necessarily issues and I can live without if absolutely necessary)
[20:48] <Vivekananda> so here I am
[20:49] <Vivekananda> issue1-- The mplayer playback is like in slow motion . havent tried vlc. Online playback is ok for flash. One thing I love is that I am able to open like 12 tabs in chromium and everything is running smooth. I love that. Could not do that in Lucid.
[20:49] <phiscribe> 12.10 gives more recent apps in the repo like gimp 2.8 ect. thats why i switched
[20:49] <Vivekananda> There is one big problem though. The moment I start using a google talk plugin then it starts , by itself, using 50 60 percent cpu cycles !!!
[20:50] <Vivekananda> that just kills everything down and bring thingss to a standstill !!
[20:50] <phiscribe> dunno about that. might be just intrinsicaly heavy
[20:51] <Vivekananda> phiscribe: No such problem in lucid. I must also tell you that lubuntu is a clean install whereas the lucid I had was not only heavier( as gnome is ) but also 3 yrs old !!
[20:51] <Vivekananda> with all garbage from before it ( from ubuntu 9.10 too!! on the same partition)
[20:51] <phiscribe> dunno then, dont use google talk much
[20:52] <Vivekananda> still It did not gimme that issue so I am guessing it is nt the hardware but some tweaking that I am using
[20:52] <Vivekananda> ok no problem
[20:52] <Vivekananda> Can anyone here help me wiht the graphics criver issues I mentioned above exp slow playback of video on mplayer ?
[20:53] <Vivekananda> Also a preference is I want to get a compact theme ( meaning very narrow borders or even no borders but some way of maximizing minimizing windows. Right now it looks like half of the window is just the status line of the browser!!
[20:56] <phiscribe> as far as video drivers go, i just hope for luck.  and for themes one of them under the open box configuraton should do, you can download and install others
[20:58] <Vivekananda> phiscribe: any way of reducing / deleting window status line / borders ?
[20:58] <phiscribe> changing the theme is all that comes to mind
[20:59] <phiscribe> could be others, i dont tweak that stuff much
[21:00] <phiscribe> there is also #lxde
[21:08] <divx118> Hmm this should be something obvious, but where is/are the file(s) located for defining a shortcut next to the chrome browser and the filemanager on lxpanel.
[21:09] <divx118> I want to add an extra icon to start my on screen keyboard.
[21:10] <cerebrate> mmm, i right click the panel, choose panel options... hold on a sec
[21:10] <cerebrate> panel settings for me
[21:10] <cerebrate> select the applets tab
[21:11] <cerebrate> select the application launcher from the list...
[21:11] <cerebrate> hit edit and the rest should flow intuitively i guess :7
[21:14] <divx118> Cerebrate: yes, but the problem is that I still have to fix my right click and I want to have it present on first start of my lubuntu arm image. I am working on a touchscreen only arm device. Archos A101IT
[21:14] <cerebrate> oh wow
[21:14] <cerebrate> i dont know much about that
[21:15] <cerebrate> sorry
[21:15]  * cerebrate r's the friendly manual ^^;
[21:17] <theixle> I'm still wondering how to tweak the lxde right-click on desktop menu. Anyone familiar?
[21:24] <phiscribe> im not 100% sure but i think you can only tell lxde to handle right click or change it to allow the window manager to handle right click.  i think this is hard coded.
[21:27] <theixle> I know you can modify the openbox menu with obmenu, but I like the lxde one better but can't figure out how to edit it.
[21:34] <phiscribe> under Desktop Prefrences Advanced tab is the option to have the windows manger control right click, if that helps.
[21:34] <phiscribe> maybe if you can get the right thing controling it you can find a way to edit
[21:34] <theixle> Yeah, that's how I got the lxde menu vs the openbox menu. Now just gotta find the config file for it.
[21:40] <divx118> Found my solution in /usr/share/lxpanel/profile/Lubuntu/panels/panel :)
[21:41] <lesshaste> how do you change the default word processor to libreoffice in lubuntu?
[21:41] <lesshaste> something like http://dwmallisk.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/setting-libreoffice-writer-as-default.html but for lubuntu#
[21:42] <lesshaste> do I really have to uninstall abiword?
[21:43] <SilverLion> lesshaste: honestly i did uninstall and installed libreoffice. way better
[21:45] <Vivekananda> hey everyone I have firefox 19 with two profiles
[21:45] <Vivekananda> Something went wrong with the default and the adblock plugin stopped working. I am guessing I changed file permissions somewehere .
[21:46] <phillw> Vivekananda: did you try to run firefox from the command line?
[21:46] <Vivekananda> The created another profile and now it is not allowing the classic compact plugin to wwork
[21:46] <Vivekananda> phillw: It gives me The owner of /home/varun/.config/ibus/bus is not varun!
[21:47] <phillw> doing that as sudo, or as # will break permissions.
[21:47] <Vivekananda> phillw: I guess it did break them
[21:47] <phillw> Vivekananda: who is the owner?
[21:47] <Vivekananda> perhaps the root.
[21:47] <phillw> Vivekananda: give me a minute, I'll get you the link up
[21:47] <Vivekananda> there is just one user for the comp ( me )
[21:48] <phillw> Vivekananda: head over to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Firefox_problems
[21:48] <Vivekananda> also phillw help me trouble shoot the graphics card too ?
[21:50] <phillw> graphics cards are funny beasts. I'd suggest heading to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 and read the 2nd sticky on mulitmedia & video howto
[21:50] <Vivekananda> I am there now. What am I looking for ?
[21:50] <Vivekananda> for firefox I mean ?
[21:51] <phillw> Vivekananda: look through the list of problems that are listed on the area it links to and then follow what it says to correct it.
[21:51] <Vivekananda> Also is there a way to sync firefox bookmarks across profiles and computers ?
[21:54] <phillw> Vivekananda: have read through the excellent write up that is available via the FAQ link I posted up.
[21:57] <Vivekananda> Thanks I will look into both. I guess will have to sit down and read so will have to take out sometime for it . :)
[23:14] <nicfer> hello
[23:14] <nicfer> I'm having issues trying to install lubuntu
[23:14] <nicfer> in the 'select and install components', I get a red screen telling me there's a problem
[23:15] <nicfer> I Ctrl-F4, and then I saw lots of apt dependency errors
[23:18] <nicfer> I tried to continue installation, grub was setup, but after rebooting and ejecting the usb drive I get stuck on a black screen
[23:31] <Myrtti> nicfer: are you trying to install from a CD or USB? and how did you download the image?
[23:32] <nicfer> from usb
[23:32] <nicfer> I downloaded it from the lubuntu site
[23:33] <nicfer> and created it with linux live usb creator
[23:33] <Myrtti> did you check the md5sum matched before you created the USB?
[23:41] <nicfer> I downloaded it two times, with both isos still the same problem...
[23:43] <nicfer> the pc I'm trying to install on has 256MB RAM, can that cripple me somehow?
[23:43] <nicfer> I'm using the alternate installer
[23:56] <lighta> hi here, I'm looking to completly disable screensaver on lxde any link ? or cli prefered ?


[00:31] <Ionic> is there any way to configure repositories without having to click through the web interface? especially if I want to update a lot of repositories at once
[00:37] <sarnold> Ionic: what problem are you trying to solve?
[00:39] <Ionic> for instance I now have to add zesty support to most of my repositories and schedule a rebuild for this platform
[00:45] <nacc> Ionic: you can probably do it with launchpadlib, but I don't think there's an existing script for it
[00:45] <nacc> Ionic: I assume you mean PPAs?
[00:46] <Ionic> yep
[00:47] <Ionic> oh well, I'll just click through the list
[00:50] <nacc> Ionic: i'm not sure i undrestand why you need to 'add' zesty?
[00:50] <nacc> Ionic: can you link to an example ppa?
[00:56] <Ionic> nacc: to each recipe, I have to check "zesty" in the distribution series section
[00:56] <nacc> Ionic: oh the recipes
[00:56] <Ionic> s/to each/for each/
[00:56] <Ionic> yep
[00:56] <Ionic> also request a zesty build
[00:57] <nacc> Ionic: sorry, I was just looking at my PPAs and afaict, they will build for zesty automatically (presujming you upload for zesty), but yeah, the recipes might need manual updates
[00:57] <Ionic> doing that for 60 recipes is hard work
[00:57] <nacc> not fun :/
[00:57] <sarnold> Ionic: if you don't get any advice here soonish, it might be worth asking on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[00:57] <Ionic> also, launchpad is a bit special in the sense that it takes some time for the javascript stuff to load up fully
[00:58] <Ionic> if I click too fast, I won't get the distribution series selection "popup" but be forwarded to the recipe editing page
[00:58] <Ionic> sarnold: it's okay, I'll do it manually like the last two times
[01:00] <sarnold> Ionic: well, unless something changes now that we're run out of US ASCII letters, we're liable to keep making new releases every six months. There may not be a fix right away but even a fix eventually might be nice :)
[01:03] <Ionic> I know
[01:03] <Ionic> regarding letters... what's the next code name after zesty?
[01:03] <nacc> Ionic: not decided yet, afaik
[01:03] <Ionic> at least I will be running into problems, I guess
[01:03] <sarnold> afaik we'll have to wait until april 2017 to find out :)
[01:04] <Ionic> I heard the Ubuntu guys wanted to wrap over back to A
[01:04] <sarnold> you're probably not the only one that's built in assumptions about names..
[01:04] <nacc> heh, hopefully no one was sorting by codename, it was already wrong
[01:04] <Ionic> and the problem with that is that A < Z
[01:04] <Ionic> well yeah, it kinda does, the package names include the codename IIRC
[01:05] <nacc> Warty < Trusty, e.g.
[01:05] <sarnold> I kind of hope for א and lets just test out how well we've done our utf8.. ;)
[01:05] <nacc> sarnold: awesome
[01:05] <nacc> Ionic: what package names?
[01:06] <Ionic> ah no
[01:06] <Ionic> they include an "ubuntuWX.YZ" string, so that will work fine
[01:07] <nacc> those values have nothing to do with the releases
[01:07] <nacc> Ionic: you mean in the package versions?
[01:07] <Ionic> yeah
[01:07] <nacc> right, those don't correlate to releases
[01:07] <nacc> at least, not necessarily
[01:07] <nacc> some do, but those are typically the same version is SRU'd to the current devel release and older releases
[01:08] <wgrant> Ionic: You can set source_package_recipe.distroseries using launchpadlib.
[01:09] <wgrant> We switched from ~trusty1 to ~ubuntu14.04.1 for recipes before utopic, so order would be preserved post-zesty.
[01:09] <nacc> wgrant: ah it's a built-in thing in recipes? interesting
[01:09] <nacc> Ionic: sorry, I didn't realize that
[01:09] <sarnold> wgrant: hah, clever :)
[01:09] <wgrant> Yep, since the common case is to build for all supported series.
[01:09] <nacc> makes sense
[01:10] <Ionic> wgrant: ha, see, I remember package versions included the codenames
[01:10] <wgrant> Yeah, we knew we'd have to change to ~ubuntu14.04.1 before zesty+1, but ~utopic would also have sorted after ~ubuntu, so we needed to do it before utopic.
[01:12] <Ionic> I just took a look at my PPA and all package names seem to be (upgrade-wise) fine now
[01:15] <Ionic> wgrant: I learned the lesson about including codenames the hard way on Debian for the wheezy -> jessie upgrade...
[01:15] <wgrant> Heh
[01:15] <Ionic> since then I'm replacing the codename with the numerical version number
[15:44] <barry> cjwatson: hi.  do you know if there is documentation on launchpad snap recipes?  i've search snapcraft.io and help.launchpad.net but not found anything.  specifically, i'm trying to figure out if targeting zesty for stage-packages should work or not (it doesn't for ubuntu-image, but i don't know if that's me or launchpad)
[15:46] <cjwatson> I have been very slack on writing docs for that
[15:46] <cjwatson> are you perhaps running into https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1626739 ?
[15:47] <barry> cjwatson: yes i think so but for zesty: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/295856667/buildlog_snap_ubuntu_zesty_amd64_ubuntu-image_BUILDING.txt.gz
[15:48] <cjwatson> right, same deal
[15:48] <cjwatson> needs work in LP to send the appropriate set of pubkeys to the builders
[15:49] <cjwatson> historically we've been able to get away with that and rely on unauth fetches since it's all within our network, but we can't do that for snap
[15:50] <barry> cjwatson: okay, thanks.  i'll disable our recipe for now (xenial won't work for us) and build manually.  i'll subscribe to the bug to watch for fixes.  any eta on that?
[15:50] <cjwatson> I have a tight deadline at the moment so it's questionable whether I'll get to it in 2016 :-(
[15:51] <cjwatson> not sure yet ...
[15:51] <barry> cjwatson: no worries, i understand ;)  thanks
[17:26] <nacc> hrm, i think the regex at https://launchpad.net/imagemagick/main/ needs to be updated :(
[17:26] <nacc> upstream now uses .xz
[17:26] <nacc> hrm, actually
[17:28] <nacc> trying to figure out why more recent versions of imagemagick aren't available there (upstream php-imagick's Travis on github uses launchpad's mirror)
[17:36] <nacc> i wonder if it should be using ftp://ftp.imagemagick.org/pub/ImageMagick/releases/
[17:36] <nacc> and ImageMagick-*.tar.xz
[19:51] <smoser> anyone else having issues ?
[19:51] <smoser> bzr pull lp:cloud-initramfs-tools

[19:52] <smoser> err.. branch
[19:53] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23569174/
[19:55] <smoser> never mind


[01:26] <_Synergy_> Ubuntu ops "natalie" just spent 30 min trolling ##windows asking fake questions. fyi - he just started on your channel now.
[01:27] <Pici> _Synergy_: Oddly enough I was just thinking about how it was weird for someone with a 7 week old nickserv account to be asking thos sort of questions
[01:31] <Pici> muted for now
[09:59] <bazhang> and ongoing trolling while he chats in -irc
[09:59] <bazhang> ##windows
 help1 how to make ubuntu make me a sandwhich
[10:02] <bazhang> thats callico10/ozonescaredycat/etc
[10:11] <bazhang> have him +q and in PM, no response so far
[10:11] <circlecrossdev> USN-966-1: Make Vulnerability. CVE-2010-2480.  // hehe what are you vulnerable to my lady? love u.
[10:12] <circlecrossdev> wtf. Mako enables hackers
[10:12] <circlecrossdev> i suggest you re write that
[10:12] <circlecrossdev> mako to me means flowers and love and joy and interests
[10:12] <bazhang> circlecrossdev, this is not the place for that
[10:13] <bazhang> circlecrossdev, if you'd like to discuss your +q in #ubuntu thats fine
[10:13] <circlecrossdev> can u -q me so i can discuss
[10:14] <bazhang> circlecrossdev, you are not +q here, and I PM'ed you
[10:14] <circlecrossdev> that does not translate to me being able to discuss the +q in #ubuntu
[10:15] <circlecrossdev> would it be ok if i discussed +q here
[10:15] <bazhang> circlecrossdev, thats not the place to discuss it, nor is it a place to debate Norton antivirus, nor how to get ubuntu to make you a sandwich
[10:16] <circlecrossdev> you do know that norton can help ubuntu right
[10:16] <bazhang> circlecrossdev, please come back in 24 hours to discuss this, as you don't seem pre-disposed to sensibly discuss it now.
[10:17] <circlecrossdev> you can't dispose of your senses before even getting the the issue
[10:17] <circlecrossdev> why would i do that pre
[10:17] <bazhang> circlecrossdev, no idea what that means; come back in 24 hours please.
[10:17] <circlecrossdev> will you be waiting for me
[10:17] <circlecrossdev> tell macky mac that i will miss her
[10:18] <bazhang> circlecrossdev, someone will certainly be here to discuss it with you
[10:18] <bazhang> ugh
[10:18] <bazhang> I thought Mako was someone else
[10:47] <elky> bazhang, that individual has just been banned from u-w for suggesting that to raise money we should dress in light clothing and splash each other with ice water.
[11:15] <bazhang> elky ok
[11:37]  * Mamarok is handling that
[14:00] <bazhang> we need to program the floodbots to kb on lmgtfy links
[14:02] <gpc> that probably wouldn't go off to well. bots don't ban on swearing...
[14:15] <John-Smith> viva la taipei hahahhaha
[14:21] <gpc> there is a factoid for creating a personal repo, can't remember it though
[14:21] <gpc> anybody remember it off hand?
[14:21] <gpc> not PPA
[14:21] <tsimpson> !search apt
[14:22] <tsimpson> hmm
[14:22] <bazhang> apt-mirror?
[14:22] <gpc> he wants to create a mirror with some packages not all of the packages in the section
[14:23] <bazhang> aptoncd (only 100mb he says)
[14:23] <gpc> ok. I gave him that info
[14:26] <gpc> didn't Seveas create a tool that did that?
[14:26] <gpc> long time ago it was
[14:26] <bazhang> !offline
[14:26] <bazhang> apt-url or something like that?
[14:27] <bazhang> you seem to be thinking of the seveas sources.list generator
[14:27] <gpc> hmm, don't remember what it was called
[14:27] <gpc> no no
[14:27] <gpc> it was an application and it allowed you to select what sections/packages you wanted to keep synced on your server
[14:28] <bazhang> no idea
[14:28] <gpc> this was at least 4 years ago
[16:31] <gpc> !guidelines > schnuffle
[23:06] <th0r> ops....are you aware that the channel announcement appears to have been hacked?
[23:07] <tonyyarusso> th0r: for which channel?  #ubuntu?
[23:07] <th0r> right....all the links refer to http://goo.gl/<something weird>
[23:07] <tonyyarusso> th0r: also, "hacked" how?
[23:07] <tonyyarusso> th0r: um, that's not hacked - click them and you'll see they're legit.
[23:08] <tonyyarusso> th0r: goo.gl is Google URL shortening service, similar to tinyurl or bit.ly
[23:08] <th0r> ok.....there have been some news items about a bogus goo.gl link going around....figured that might be it
[23:08] <tonyyarusso> nope, they're all safe
[23:08] <th0r> so....never mind <smile>
[23:09] <tonyyarusso> Hey, at least someone *read* the /topic :)
[23:10] <gpc> there is still hope
[23:11]  * Pici rolls his eyes


[00:23] <OerHeks> next intel  SWAPGS/WSGRBASE -leak... https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/08/silent-windows-update-patched-side-channel-that-leaked-data-from-intel-cpus/
[00:23] <OerHeks> good thing: Exploiting the vulnerability using JavaScript is not possible
[00:24] <OerHeks> "SWAPGS attack" https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2019/08/06/microsoft-confirms-new-windows-cpu-attack-vulnerability--advises-all-users-to-update-now/#4a44755173f8
[00:25] <OerHeks> .. maybe AMD too ..
[00:25] <pragmaticenigma> but "sudo apt full-upgrade windows10" doesn't work
[00:26] <OerHeks> you must log out as ghost user first?
[00:26] <pragmaticenigma> oh
[00:26] <OerHeks> you know, user 0
[00:26] <pragmaticenigma> maybe that's what I'm doing wrong
[00:26] <pragmaticenigma> I have user -1... does that work?
[00:26] <OerHeks> oke, put 2 fingers in your nose, and turn your mouse upside down
[00:26] <OerHeks> then reboot by pulling the powercor...wait
[00:27] <OerHeks> -1 ?
[00:27] <pragmaticenigma> how do i turn my mouse upside down and pull the powercord if my fingers are in mah nose?
[00:27] <OerHeks> man user -1 ; are you pregnant?
[00:27] <sarnold> no no put your fingers in your mouse and turn your nose upside down
[00:27] <pragmaticenigma> ah, makes more sense
[00:28] <pragmaticenigma> dang-nab-it...the mouse bit me
[00:28]  * pragmaticenigma goes and gets badages and a hammer
[00:28] <pragmaticenigma> so ... um ... anyone know where I can get a new mouse, relatively cheap these days?
[00:29] <OerHeks> sometimes 2nd hand stores have nice mouses
[00:30] <pragmaticenigma> eewww... don't want a mouse that someone used while watchin naughty film
[00:30] <pragmaticenigma> brand new please
[00:30] <pragmaticenigma> :-D
[00:31] <OerHeks> yes, i know, the mousewheel is the dirtiest place on earth
[00:31] <pragmaticenigma> for sure!
[00:31] <sarnold> .. right after the human mind
[00:31] <OerHeks> hop on your bicycle, i have a trackpad somewhere
[00:34] <OerHeks> 52.3929173 N  4.6250156 W
[00:34] <pragmaticenigma> uh ohes... I'm negatives longitudes... that's gunna be a long bike ride
[00:45] <sarnold> don't be so hard on yourself I'm sure you could be more positive if you put your mind to it
[00:46] <sarnold> also I think you'll want to bring some goggles and flipperdeals
[00:46] <OerHeks> carefull for the sharks!
[00:46] <sarnold> they're more scared of you than you are of them
[00:47] <pragmaticenigma> say that to the 36 shark attacks this past month on the eastern seaboard of the north american continent
[00:48] <OerHeks> yeah, i read that, knee deep water ..
[00:49] <OerHeks> and what about those asian carps ...
[00:49] <OerHeks> are they not tasty?
[00:50] <pragmaticenigma> carp doesn't typically make for good eating, but they make a fine fertilizer for farm fields I hear
[00:52] <pragmaticenigma> I guess dependin on who you ask, they might make a decent meal: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/eat-the-enemy-asian-carp_n_6324896
[00:53] <Bashing-om> Carp == pressure cooker == fish patties :)
[00:54] <pragmaticenigma> dog food is what my dad would call that
[00:55] <Bashing-om> pragmaticenigma: Truth !
[00:57] <tomreyn> mcdonals calls it chicken mc nuggets
[00:59] <OerHeks> here we have 'kibbeling', fish pieces in crust ..
[00:59] <OerHeks> nobody can tell what fish and what part :-D
[01:00] <OerHeks> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Kibbeling_001.JPG
[01:03] <tomreyn> or whether
[01:03] <tomreyn> maybe veggie food is much more common than we all think
[01:04] <pragmaticenigma> anything deep fried and served with a mayo/ranch type dressing is probably hard for anyone to resist
[01:05] <OerHeks> Ravigott sauce... the secret
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:06] <OerHeks> bed bugs?
[03:06] <OerHeks> hi lotus
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> hey OerHeks
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> i had my hours, all good :p
[08:10] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:11] <EoflaOE> Good morning
[08:46] <marcoagpinto> Heya
[11:32] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:32] <EoflaOE> hello BluesKaj
[11:32] <BluesKaj> hi EoflaOE
[11:33] <EoflaOE> BluesKaj: Launchpad got attacked by spammers because I have seen questions and bugs that are spammy
[11:34] <BluesKaj> that comes with the territory, it's not new
[11:35] <EoflaOE> BluesKaj: Yes. I know that is not new.
[11:35] <BluesKaj> even linux users can be spammers
[11:36] <marcoagpinto> BluesKaj!!!! Hello!!!!
[11:36] <marcoagpinto> My dear brother!
[11:36] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[11:37] <EoflaOE> BluesKaj: Yes. And the questions to "Launchpad itself" are filled with "Please remove spam..." and hi marcoagpinto
[11:37] <marcoagpinto> hi
[11:37] <BluesKaj> hi marcoagpinto
[11:39] <EoflaOE> I have made a blog site which is focused on tech and Ubuntu. Do you want to check it out?
[11:39] <marcoagpinto> me?
[11:39] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[11:40] <marcoagpinto> I have been working on the GB speller + thesis since 6am
[11:40] <marcoagpinto> I have no life :(
[11:41] <EoflaOE> Yes. Do you want?
[11:41] <marcoagpinto> sure
[11:41] <EoflaOE> https://eofla.wordpress.com
[11:42] <marcoagpinto> Buaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:42] <marcoagpinto> it has a story... the Professor said that my thesis isn't a story :(
[11:43] <marcoagpinto> reading your page makes me realise how the professor was right
[11:43] <EoflaOE> marcoagpinto: Thank you so much.
[11:43] <marcoagpinto> the text flows naturally in your page
[11:44] <marcoagpinto> damn... it is so well written
[11:45] <EoflaOE> marcoagpinto: Yes. I proofread as I write.
[11:45] <marcoagpinto> yes, so do I in my thesis and use a grammar checker, LanguageTool
[11:46] <EoflaOE> marcoagpinto: Nice. I found a bug in Nautilus on Ubuntu 19.10
[11:47] <marcoagpinto> I haven't used my VMs because of the Kernel 5 issues
[11:47] <marcoagpinto> but I guess 18.04 won't update it since it is the ESR
[11:47] <marcoagpinto> LTS
[11:48] <EoflaOE> OK. My Ubuntu VM on VirtualBox is stable.
[11:51] <marcoagpinto> EoflaOE: You would be the right person to improve my thesis... if I win the EuroMillions on Friday I will pay you :p
[11:51] <marcoagpinto> jk
[11:51] <marcoagpinto> :)
[11:51] <EoflaOE> OK.
[12:06] <marcoagpinto> EoflaOE: https://i.imgur.com/udCcMqT.png
[12:16] <JimBuntu> thesis time...
[12:16]  * JimBuntu slides a frosted mug of root beer to marcoagpinto
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> no alcohol for marco
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> slide it to lotus
[12:24] <pragmaticenigma> oh boy... :-(
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> its true, he takes meds...
[12:44] <JimBuntu> that was root beer, not fermented beer
[12:46] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[12:46] <marcoagpinto> I don't drink alcohol
[12:46] <marcoagpinto> I take medicines
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> pragmaticenigma: ^
[12:47]  * lotuspsychje burps lol
[13:09] <marcoagpinto> Buaaaaaaa... I am so stressed... >:)
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> ./join #irc-therapy
[13:10] <marcoagpinto> :p
[13:10] <marcoagpinto> I will try to nap in two hours
[13:11] <pragmaticenigma> marcoagpinto: Take two hours of this, and call the doctor the next morning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB-qEYVdvXA
[13:12] <marcoagpinto> ohhhh... cats
[13:12] <marcoagpinto> :)
[13:12] <marcoagpinto> I too have cats at hom
[13:12] <marcoagpinto> home*
[13:12] <pragmaticenigma> you didn't bring them with you to work?
[13:12] <pizzaiolo> every place needs a shop cat
[13:13] <marcoagpinto> what?
[13:13] <marcoagpinto> I am at home
[13:13] <marcoagpinto> I only work on the weekends
[13:13] <pragmaticenigma> how are you stressed??!!??!!
[13:13] <marcoagpinto> and last weekend I was depressed and didn't go... and the doctors are in vacation
[13:13] <marcoagpinto> pragmaticenigma: too much going on
[13:14] <pizzaiolo> marcoagpinto right there with ya
[14:43] <tomreyn> i'm a bit late on this but ... DebConf talks with videos: https://debconf19.debconf.org/talks
[16:09] <nicomachus> which releases are on the 5.0 kernel? I've been paying so little attention I didn't even know 5.0 was out.
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: 19.04 and 18.04 with hwe
[16:10] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: huh. Pretty sure I have hwe on my 18.04 but I'm still on 4.15
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> brb gotta eat first
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: if you installed bionic from the start you have 4.15
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: if you download the iso currently you got 5.0 now
[16:14] <nicomachus> gotcha
[16:14] <daftykins> nasty nasty HWEs
[16:14] <daftykins> ;)
[22:16] <sonicwind> RIP   https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/cnazeh/osdisccom_is_no_longer_in_business/
[22:40] <tomreyn> have any of you use me_cleaner against a cherry trail and can discuss their experiences?
[22:40] <tomreyn> or any cpu really
[23:06] <sarnold> I wouldn't test it on any system I needed to work..
[23:07] <daftykins> is this something that's meant to disable the Intel Management Engine?
[23:11] <tomreyn> yes it is
[23:11] <tomreyn> i'm visiting a friend wh's got a matching flasher, so this seems worthwhile.
[23:12] <tomreyn> and, yes, i don't depend on this system to work.
[23:13] <daftykins> heh i'm running prime95 on the Dell Precision laptops i got for a friend and client recently, the 45W hex core i7 coffee lake CPUs are almost hitting 100 deg C on a couple of cores in one of them
[23:21] <tomreyn> better don't touch them!
[23:21] <tomreyn> is this with the latest bios installed?
[23:29] <daftykins> first thing i do with new kit :)
[23:29] <daftykins> BIOS, ME, thunderbolt firmware... the list goes on
[23:30] <daftykins> normally i'd be happy to pop them open and replace the paste in case it'll help
[23:39] <tomreyn> i wouldn't even know how to upgrade thunderbolt firmware - but then i don't have any systems which have this.
[23:40] <daftykins> just Windows utilities provided on Dell's downloads page for the model
[23:41] <daftykins> amusingly, the tool first powers on the controller - the OS suddenly goes "oh hey, new hardware..." and sets it up, so the updater fails as it doesn't find the device within a given time window... then you run it a second time and it's all fine
[23:41] <tomreyn> i see. so... if they get this hot then they're hopefully meant to? what do those specs say?
[23:42] <daftykins> well one of them is nudging its' Tj Max so that doesn't seem too ideal, i'm tempted to have a go at the paste but i've got the service manual open and it looks a decent bit involved compared to usual
[23:42] <tomreyn> :-/
[23:43] <daftykins> plus... it feels kind of wrong to mess when it's new and under warranty :D
[23:43] <tomreyn> i guess you can't custom control the fan speeds either
[23:43] <daftykins> wouldn't want to fight its' own choices really, they're definitely running high :D
[23:44] <daftykins> huge twin fan twin heatpipe design too, so i'm really glad i didn't go with the other models that have far worse cooling


[00:39] <darkmagic> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake
[00:39] <darkmagic> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[00:39] <darkmagic> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[00:40] <darkmagic> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[00:40] <darkmagic> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[01:15] <agree> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake
[01:15] <agree> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[01:15] <agree> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[03:42] <cats27> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake
[03:42] <cats27> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[03:42] <cats27> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[03:42] <cats27> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[03:42] <cats27> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[04:55] <ensyde> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake
[04:55] <ensyde> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[04:55] <ensyde> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[04:55] <ensyde> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[04:55] <ensyde> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[06:57] <Ishaq28> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[06:57] <Ishaq28> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[06:57] <Ishaq28> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[06:57] <Ishaq28> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[06:57] <Ishaq28> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[08:20] <james41382> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[08:20] <james41382> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[08:20] <james41382> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[08:20] <james41382> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[08:20] <james41382> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[08:23] <bairdmich> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[08:24] <bairdmich> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[08:24] <bairdmich> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[08:24] <bairdmich> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[08:24] <bairdmich> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[08:26] <ptx027> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[08:26] <ptx027> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[08:26] <ptx027> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[08:26] <ptx027> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[08:26] <ptx027> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[09:31] <Roedy9> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[10:05] <KindOne> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[10:05] <KindOne> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[10:05] <KindOne> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[10:05] <KindOne> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[10:05] <KindOne> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[10:19] <JesseOor16> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[10:19] <JesseOor16> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[10:19] <JesseOor16> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[10:19] <JesseOor16> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[10:19] <JesseOor16> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[10:44] <mub> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[10:44] <mub> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[10:44] <mub> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[10:44] <mub> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[10:44] <mub> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[10:53] <nkuttler9> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[10:54] <nkuttler9> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[10:54] <nkuttler9> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[10:54] <nkuttler9> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[10:54] <nkuttler9> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[11:13] <sh4nks28> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[11:13] <sh4nks28> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[11:13] <sh4nks28> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[11:13] <sh4nks28> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[11:13] <sh4nks28> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[12:03] <pringlecake> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[12:03] <pringlecake> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[12:03] <pringlecake> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[12:03] <pringlecake> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[12:03] <pringlecake> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[12:36] <rasengan14> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[12:36] <rasengan14> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[12:36] <rasengan14> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[12:36] <rasengan14> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[12:36] <rasengan14> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[12:57] <mdroid> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[12:57] <mdroid> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[12:57] <mdroid> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[12:57] <mdroid> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[12:57] <mdroid> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[13:30] <james41382> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[13:30] <james41382> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[13:30] <james41382> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[13:30] <james41382> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[13:30] <james41382> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[15:11] <was> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[15:12] <was> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[15:12] <was> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[15:12] <was> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[15:12] <was> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[15:35] <Xenogenesis15> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[15:35] <Xenogenesis15> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[15:36] <Xenogenesis15> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[15:36] <Xenogenesis15> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[15:36] <Xenogenesis15> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[16:55] <change> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[16:55] <change> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[16:55] <change> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[16:56] <change> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[16:56] <change> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[18:11] <Syfer> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[18:11] <Syfer> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[18:11] <Syfer> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[18:11] <Syfer> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[18:11] <Syfer> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[18:25] <ExeciN2> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[18:25] <ExeciN2> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[18:25] <ExeciN2> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[18:25] <ExeciN2> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[18:25] <ExeciN2> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[20:18] <OpenSorce> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[20:18] <Guest73473> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[20:18] <Guest73473> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[20:18] <Guest73473> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[20:18] <Guest73473> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[20:21] <garywhite9> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[20:21] <garywhite9> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[20:21] <garywhite9> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[20:21] <garywhite9> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[20:21] <garywhite9> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[20:34] <govg> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[20:34] <govg> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[20:34] <Guest69309> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[20:34] <Guest69309> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[20:34] <Guest69309> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[21:22] <RoBz4> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[21:23] <RoBz4> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[21:23] <RoBz4> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[21:23] <RoBz4> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[21:23] <RoBz4> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[21:24] <ChasedSpade> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[21:24] <ChasedSpade> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[21:24] <ChasedSpade> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[21:24] <ChasedSpade> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[21:24] <ChasedSpade> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[22:37] <jim23> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[22:37] <jim23> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[22:37] <jim23> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[22:37] <jim23> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[22:37] <jim23> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[22:50] <Guest42469> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[22:51] <Guest42469> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[22:51] <Guest42469> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[22:51] <Guest42469> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[22:51] <Guest42469> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/