[12:33] <MrSykkox> ActionParsnip, Running with a USB serial device converter if it helps anything
[12:34] <shams> ObrienDave, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6561128/
[12:36] <ObrienDave> shams, you're on 12.04 yes?
[12:37] <shams> yes
[12:37] <shams> ObrienDave, http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63872
[12:40] <shams> ObrienDave, yes i am on 12.04, and i removed my first installation which i did through window, and this one is using DVD, installed ubuntu side by side windows.
[12:40] <ObrienDave> shams, just for the heck of it, try sudo apt-get install wine1.7
[12:40] <shams> ok
[12:41] <shams> ObrienDave, Unable to locate package
[12:42] <shams> ObrienDave, cound not find any package by regex 'wine1.7'
[12:42] <Ben64> shams: did you add the ppa suggested?
[12:43] <shams> Ben64, no i didnt
[12:43] <shams> Ben64, i upgraded though
[12:43] <Ben64> well you should try the ppa then
[12:44] <ObrienDave> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[12:44] <ObrienDave> if you did not add the ppa you will NOT find wine
[12:44] <Ben64> uh.. wine still exists without a ppa, just not the newest one
[12:45] <ObrienDave> yes, you're correct.
[12:46] <shams> ObrienDave, ok i added the ppa  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa, but no progress .
[12:47] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get update
[12:47] <shams> ok
[12:47] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get install wine1.5
[12:47] <Ben64> no
[12:47] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install wine
[12:47] <ObrienDave> k
[12:48] <shams> ok
[12:48] <shams> Ben64, i have broken packages as it says
[12:48] <Ben64> pastebin it all
[12:48] <shams> ok
[12:49] <osubuntu> or use pastebinit
[12:50] <shams> Ben64, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6561213/
[12:53] <Ben64> shams: what else have you done to the system? any other ppas? any other software?
[12:53] <ice9> after shutdown, neither unity nor gnome can start, just showing black screen with the cursor, but KDE works fine!
[12:55] <gordonjcp> is it possible to get Ubuntu to always completely ignore DHCP from a given network device, always force a particular IP address and route, and use wildcard matching for that device's MAC address?
[12:55] <shams> Ben64, nothing, i only installed restored some backup files from the previous installation, and its fresh install, i only installed shutter and nothing else, i used blender, but did not install it.
[12:55] <gordonjcp> I'm having a problem where when I plug a piece of equipment in, it hands Linux a new DHCP lease and clobbers the default route
[12:57] <shams> Ben64, one more thing i like to bring under you knowledge , i formatted my windows and shrinked it into 100 gb, then i installed ubunto from DVD, i thought i will choose remaining 400 GB for ubuntu, but i was never asked, where to install and installation was over. i wonder if its using the remaining 400 GB or not.
[12:58] <Ben64> shams: you can try this, but it's a bit strange http://askubuntu.com/questions/138530/why-do-i-get-an-unmet-dependencies-error-when-trying-to-install-wine/190424#190424
[12:58] <shams> Ben64, i have installed gparted too, let me paste
[13:00] <OerHeks> that wine ppa / precise should have 1.4 / 1.6 / 1.7  >> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=precise
[13:01] <Ben64> they're all just 1.7
[13:01] <ObrienDave> Ben64, that is very strange, but it could explain some weird errors i was getting going to 12.04 a while back. wow
[13:01] <OerHeks> shams you performed sudo apt-update, try " sudo apt-get upgrade " too
[13:02] <Kartagis> what's the latest kernel available on ubuntu?
[13:02] <cfhowlett> !kernel
[13:02] <Ben64> !info linux-image
[13:02] <ObrienDave> OerHeks, had him do dist-upgrade also, 72 updates ;)
[13:03] <morfin> i'll try to compile new openssl just to be sure nothing has changed
[13:04] <Kartagis> Ben64: is installing 3.12 safe?
[13:07] <Ben64> Kartagis: well you'd be unsupported here, you'd have to make your mind up about that
[13:07] <Kartagis> okay
[13:08] <Ben64> trusty will have at least 3.12 if you want to wait until april for it
[13:11] <makara> hi. i've logged in as user JIM and I need to run a command as GAX?
[13:12] <makara> i don't know GAX's password
[13:12] <Guest88909> How do I diagnose the problem with a USB device under Ubuntu 13.10 (64 bit)
[13:13] <[Gentoo]> Guest88909: try dmesg
[13:13] <[Gentoo]> what happens anyway
[13:14] <Ben64> makara: sudo su -c "command here" GAX
[13:14] <Guest88909> [Gentoo]: I have a "media center" with 8 USB ports, memory card readers (including SDHC) and audio (mic and headphone).  Everything works except for the USB ports
[13:15] <Guest88909> [Gentoo]: What do I do with dmesg?
[13:15] <Ben64> Guest88909: type it, then pastebin it so we can see. try plugging something into the usb first
[13:16] <FrankMartin> guys anybody worked with displaylinks in ubuntu ?
[13:16] <FrankMartin> targus
[13:16] <Guest88909> [Gentoo]: I have a MS-7502 mother board with 3 JUSB connectors.  I plugged the two USB wires from the media center into JUSB1 and JUSB2
[13:16] <himanshu_linux> hi
[13:18] <[Gentoo]> Guest88909: what do you mean by that, the wires
[13:18] <Ben64> [Gentoo]: usb headers on the motherboard
[13:18] <Ben64> question took a turn towards ##hardware now
[13:19] <[Gentoo]> if the media center plugs into the pc then i dont know anyway
[13:19] <Guest88909> [Gentoo]: I have wires that come from the back of the media center.  One for the power, two for SATA (the media center has SATA ports), one audio and two wires on which is printed USB
[13:20] <[Gentoo]> if you plug them in then paste the output of dmesg maybe it will show some error
[13:20] <[Gentoo]> dmesg|wgetpaste
[13:20] <[Gentoo]> you might need to apt-get install wgetpaste
[13:20] <xtriz> is their any online bookmarking tool or something, because i have multiple computers running different browsers and i want to sync all my bookmarks together at one place ?
[13:20] <Ben64> dont think there is a wgetpaste [Gentoo]
[13:20] <[Gentoo]> !info wgetpaste
[13:20] <[Gentoo]> ok
[13:21] <[Gentoo]> pastebinit is the one maybe
[13:21] <Ben64> yeah that exists
[13:21] <[Gentoo]> !info pastebinit
[13:21] <[Gentoo]> ok
[13:21] <Guest88909> [Gentoo]: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6561337/
[13:21] <airtonix> xtriz: you mean different browsers as in not all google chrome?
[13:22] <Guest88909> [Gentoo]: And this is all I can recover.  I can't get to the 0.0 (beginning)
[13:22] <xtriz> airtonix, yeah correct
[13:23] <Guest88909> [Gentoo]: Enjoy
[13:23] <[Gentoo]> Guest88909: are you plugging / unplugging them in
[13:23] <airtonix> xtriz: i would like to see a solution that uses btsync. btsync is boss.
[13:23] <Guest88909> [Gentoo]: Plugging in / unplugging what?
[13:23] <[Gentoo]> the usb
[13:24] <[Gentoo]> is this ubuntu?
[13:24] <[Gentoo]> you're using
[13:24] <airtonix> xtriz: what about xmarks?
[13:26] <xtriz> airtonix, let me try it seems interesting
[13:26] <airtonix> xtriz: i think xmarks has been around a long time
[13:26] <Guest88909> [Gentoo]: No, I have three wires... set of wires that end in a connector that I connected into the JUSB 1 and JUSB2 connectors on the mother board.I haven't touched either since connecting them to the mother board.  And I have 2 usb flash drives, one in each of two slots
[13:26] <profligacy> Anyone want to race?
[13:26] <profligacy> http://play.typeracer.com/?rt=imepihwlzuw2
[13:26] <cfhowlett> airtonix, about 4 years give to trake
[13:26] <cfhowlett> take
[13:26] <pgar23> Hi, I recently installed 13.10 but my qualcomm atheros 9485 wireless is not working. Do I need to install drivers or someone recommended that I downgrade to 12.04 since it may be supported...any suggestions?
[13:27] <Guest88909> [Gentoo]: Correction, two sets of wires that are connected to two of the three connectors on the motherboard
[13:27] <[Gentoo]> Guest88909: its showing as connecting / disconnecting repeatedly
[13:27] <[Gentoo]> dont know why
[13:27] <Guest88909> [Gentoo]: I'm a newbie, so I know even less
[13:27] <Guest88909> False contact?
[13:28] <ObrienDave> not plugged in all the way?
[13:28] <Wiz_KeeD> How can one add a custom directory to the end of the path?
[13:28] <Guest88909> [Gentoo]: False contact?  Not plugged in both sets of pins on the connector?
[13:28] <[Gentoo]> Wiz_KeeD: what path
[13:28] <[Gentoo]> $PATH?
[13:28] <fitsyu> pwd
[13:28] <ActionPa1snip> Wiz_KeeD: export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/folder
[13:28] <pgar23> ^^^^
[13:29] <Guest88909> [Gentoo]: Any clue?
[13:29] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionPa1snip, and that is persistent? Even after reboot?
[13:29] <[Gentoo]> Wiz_KeeD: add to bashrc
[13:29] <Wiz_KeeD> [Gentoo], how do I do that? also i am using python virtualenv
[13:29] <ActionPa1snip> Wiz_KeeD: you will need to add it in ~/.bashrc or edit /etc/environment to apply globally
[13:29] <[Gentoo]> Guest88909: nope :(
[13:30] <assistente> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193298 solutions?
[13:30] <Wiz_KeeD> editing bashrc, where do I place the command "export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/folder" ?
[13:30] <Wiz_KeeD> in this file?
[13:30] <pgar23> Wiz_Keed - I would add it to ~./bashrc so it loads up each time you boot your machine
[13:30] <Guest88909> [Gentoo]: Not ikely a software problem?  More so a hardware problem?
[13:30] <Wiz_KeeD> pgar23, where in the file more specifically?
[13:30] <jennie> Walex: !
[13:30] <[Gentoo]> Wiz_KeeD: add it to the top
[13:30] <Wiz_KeeD> ok sir
[13:30] <pgar23> Wiz_Keed - you need to remove the "/path/to/folder" part
[13:30] <[Gentoo]> Wiz_KeeD: wont really matter
[13:30] <pgar23> and put in your own path
[13:31] <pgar23> typing "pwd" will show you the current directory
[13:31] <JoBArTe_Skuld> hey guys, is possible to modifiy a apt-get do display info similar to yum?
[13:31] <impradeepy> pgar23, paste output of cat /etc/lsb-release; uname -a  and lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
[13:31] <pgar23> you will usually add the path to a directory of your choice
[13:31] <JoBArTe_Skuld> https://gist.github.com/joubertredrat/7658575
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> ok added it
[13:31] <shams> Ben64, the link you gave me seems its working , installing wine gksu gedit .......base-files
[13:31] <ActionPa1snip> Wiz_KeeD: you put the command in the terminal and it will apply to that terminal and it's child terminals
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> now DO i need to logout, login
[13:31] <ActionPa1snip> Wiz_KeeD: if you added it in ~/.bashrc   just run:  source ~/.bashrc   and it will apply
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> it also says bash: /home/wiz/bin/openerp: No such file or directory (looking there for some reason, I might have added it in the past)
[13:31] <ActionPa1snip> Wiz_KeeD: no need to log off and on
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> ah source ok
[13:31] <shams> Ben64, the link you gave me seems its working , installing wine gksu gedit .......base-files
[13:31] <pgar23> impradeepy - I do not have the machine in front of me at the moment, but do you think I should just downgrade or are there drivers missing?
[13:32] <Guest88909> [Gentoo]: More a hardware problem or a software problem in your opinion?
[13:32] <[Gentoo]> Guest88909: i sent you a message
[13:32] <Wiz_KeeD> ok so that works now to make it work in the virtual environment
[13:32] <pgar23> I grabbed the windows .inf driver file and loaded it but no success...
[13:32] <impradeepy> pgar23, without seeing outputs i cannot say anything
[13:32] <pgar23> k thx
[13:37] <makara> Ben64, any idea how to execute a script on system start as given user?
[13:40] <ActionPa1snip> makara: use the su command, or sudo can be used too
[13:40] <shams> guys, is is safe to install ia32-libs
[13:40] <HomelessTribe> hi
[13:40] <ActionPa1snip> shams: yes
[13:40] <HomelessTribe> i use ubuntu!
[13:40] <HomelessTribe> i am one of you people
[13:41] <ActionPa1snip> HomelessTribe: welcome to the party
[13:41] <HomelessTribe> ActionPa1snip: partyyyyyy
[13:41] <[Gentoo]> HomelessTribe: have a beer
[13:41] <HomelessTribe> even i prefeere slackware
[13:41] <HomelessTribe> so much more
[13:41] <shams> ActionPa1snip, somebody suggested me that its hacked or something and try this ..... i dont really remember what he said, trying to find but i cant.
[13:41] <[Gentoo]> shams: bs
[13:42] <cfhowlett> !beer
[13:42] <HomelessTribe> [Gentoo]: i dont drink alcohol
[13:42] <[Gentoo]> ok dont then
[13:42] <[Gentoo]> neither do i
[13:42] <Hassen> !what
[13:42] <[Gentoo]> :)
[13:43] <shams> Gentoo, could you be more specific , i dont know what is bs, sorry  very new to ubunto
[13:43] <HomelessTribe> anyone want join my tribe here is all info: http://i.imgur.com/suEW0Lp.gif
[13:43] <ActionPa1snip> shams: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:44] <Wiz_KeeD> [Gentoo],  ActionPa1snip thanks guys
[13:44] <Wiz_KeeD> working well now
[13:44] <[Gentoo]> HomelessTribe: was waiting for some rubbish like that
[13:44] <[Gentoo]> :)
[13:44] <HomelessTribe> :(
[13:44] <shams> ActionPa1snip, Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n\l
[13:45] <HomelessTribe> its nor rubish
[13:45] <HomelessTribe> u hurt my feelings
[13:45] <ActionPa1snip> !info ia32-libs precise
[13:45] <HomelessTribe> what u even doing here u are gentoo not ubuntu
[13:45] <cfhowlett> HomelessTribe, it is, however, off-topic.  please see the channel topic and comply.  thank you.
[13:45] <ActionPa1snip> shams: looks like its been removed
[13:46] <bgardner> ActionPa1snip, shams: I think that left as of precise, in favor of multiarch.
[13:46] <k1l> HomelessTribe: please keep this channel clear for support. we have a #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting
[13:47] <zorael> What libraries could I be missing on an amd64 installation if 64-bit glxgears works but 32-bit complains that the display isn't DRI2-capable?
[13:47] <zorael> (nvidia proprietary if it matters)
[13:48] <shams> ActionPa1snip, yes and there is some alternate I could not figure out how to search previous chat session, Ctrl+f only works for current session
[13:48] <shams> bgardner, yes i guess it was multiarch what he suggested me
[13:48] <ObrienDave> shams, check search backwards
[13:48] <cfhowlett> ActionPa1snip, you've got to know this one: how to search freenode archives?
[13:49] <morfin> i suspect there is something more than just openssl
[13:49] <zykotick9> cfhowlett: if you mean #ubuntu, see "/msg ubottu logs" for details
[13:49] <shams> ObrienDave, i did search backwards too.
[13:50] <shams> bgardner, how do i install multiarch
[13:50] <ObrienDave> hmm, then you're not loading scrollback
[13:50] <w3rd_> hello
[13:51] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, greetings
[13:51] <w3rd_> is this #ubuntu? by chance
[13:51] <bgardner> shams: It's not a package, it's a concept - they phased out ia32-libs because modern packages are available automatically for multiarch.
[13:51] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, by chance?  no, by design.  ;)
[13:52] <w3rd_> haha
[13:52] <w3rd_> really slow in the mornings
[13:52] <k1l> !details | w3rd_
[13:52] <w3rd_> usually this chan is bangin
[13:52] <w3rd_> anyway.. well i have a new samsung netbook that i purchased and the aircard isnt listed in the ifconfig -a output
[13:52] <w3rd_> im using 8.04
[13:53] <newbie|2> [Gentoo]: I just did what you suggested
[13:53] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, ////// :)
[13:53] <k1l> w3rd_: 8.04 is out of support since long time
[13:53] <[Gentoo]> newbie|2: no go?
[13:53] <w3rd_> i know
[13:53] <[Gentoo]> newbie|2: i take it you was called guest# before
[13:53] <w3rd_> im in a remote area, very hard to download
[13:53] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, so of course the FIRST thing we suggest is an upgrade to lubuntu or xubuntu 12.04
[13:53] <k1l> w3rd_: before thinking about solutions you should install at least 12.04
[13:53] <w3rd_> im waiting on 12 to dl now
[13:53] <w3rd_> hahaha
[13:53] <w3rd_> yes
[13:53] <w3rd_> its just i have 2 hours left till its complete
[13:53] <w3rd_> :(
[13:53] <FloodBot1> w3rd_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:53] <shams> bgardner, oh i see, then if i want to run a 32bit program, how do i do that, i saw a forum says in order to run Phoenix Viewer for SL you have to have 32bit lib installed.
[13:54] <newbie|2> [Gentoo]: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6561461/
[13:54] <w3rd_> i will wait and try and then come back once i have an idea rather 12 has a similar issue, thanks
[13:54] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, best bet: upgrade and come back.   we aren't really equipped or inclined to support an out-of-support distro
[13:54] <k1l> w3rd_: the kernel in 8.04 is from 2008. so there is a big chance the kernel even doesnt work with your wifi card. so go with 12.04
[13:54] <newbie|2> [Gentoo]: Yes, I was Guest with the media center
[13:54] <gtristan> where would I find a libglib-2.0 static library for Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[13:54] <w3rd_> btw, linux mint vs ubuntu regular? any diff
[13:54] <[Gentoo]> newbie|2: still not working?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, sounds like a plan!  K1l is spot on - you might just get plug and play with 12.04
[13:55] <w3rd_> yes im sure that is what it is.. probably not even in the code base, very new hardware here
[13:55] <w3rd_> agreed
[13:55] <k1l> w3rd_: go with ubuntu. or try the mint support and make your own decision
[13:55] <newbie|2> [Gentoo]: Look at the pastebin
[13:55] <w3rd_> just wanted to ensure that was a correct induction
[13:55] <[Gentoo]> newbie|2: no dodgy looking things there now
[13:55] <w3rd_> ok
[13:55] <Thugula> Hi guys.
[13:55] <w3rd_> will do, just take forever to download either flavor in this neck of the woods
[13:55] <w3rd_> thanks again
[13:56] <newbie|2> [Gentoo]: What is dodgy?
[13:56] <bgardner> shams: Sounds like that's not a package from the repos and so doesn't expressly provide multiarch dependency data.  One second.
[13:56] <[Gentoo]> newbie|2: its all looks ok now
[13:56] <[Gentoo]> newbie|2: does it work or not?
[13:56] <newbie|2> [Gentoo]: Seems less than what the first dmesg said
[13:56] <newbie|2> I'm going to look
[13:56] <Thugula> I cannot enter root user when a program asks for root privilleges, for example, when I try to enter gufw, it says "go in root", and when I press "enter password", it says "wrong identification" - most programs are doing this, they won't let me identify, so I have to run them as sudo to become root, please help me.
[13:56] <[Gentoo]> well it doesnt have the disconnects, pastebin dmesg again
[13:56] <[Gentoo]> they might have happened
[13:57] <daftykins> !uefi
[13:57] <[Gentoo]> Thugula: maybe gksudo is using su instead of sudo
[13:57] <k1l> Thugula: they ask for the user password
[13:57] <newbie|2> [Gentoo] : Just unplugged and replugged two USB flash drives - no mention in file manager
[13:57] <k1l> Thugula: there is no root pw in ubuntu
[13:57] <Thugula> k1l; they do not ask for the user password.
[13:57] <Thugula> yes they ask for the user password
[13:57] <Thugula> but no option comes up.
[13:58] <[Gentoo]> newbie|2: i seriously have no idea
[13:58] <Thugula> this is happening in ALL programs.
[13:58] <Thugula> I have to run them as sudo.
[13:58] <k1l> Thugula: than something is totally wrong
[13:58] <Thugula> when I first installed Ubuntu 13.10, everything was working fine, programs were asking for password as usual, now they don't.
[13:58] <k1l> Thugula: what? you run everything as root?
[13:58] <Thugula> only gufw.
[13:58] <Thugula> and some other programs.
[13:58] <[Gentoo]> Thugula: why do you need the gui anyway its basic on cli
[13:58] <Thugula> k1l; when I try to modify something...etc
[13:59] <k1l> Thugula: i bet you corrupted programss because you ran them with sudo even if the dont need sudo rights
[13:59] <Thugula> k1l: nope.
[13:59] <[Gentoo]> theres a thing where you can change gskudo settings cant remember what its called
[13:59] <newbie|2> [Gentoo]: Why does dmesg see no problem?  Could the USB drives be messed up?  I will try with one that I know works.
[13:59] <[Gentoo]> choose from su or sudo
[13:59] <[Gentoo]> choose sudo
[14:00] <newbie|2> [Gentoo]: Btw, doesn't dmesg seem to have less information the second time?
[14:00] <pip__> what is the state of USB 3.0 support like at the moment?
[14:00] <[Gentoo]> newbie|2: yes, it doesnt have all the disconnects from USB at the bottom
[14:00] <k1l> pip__: works
[14:00] <[Gentoo]> newbie|2: pastebin dmesg again
[14:00] <newbie|2> [Gentoo]: Aside from that, it is the same?  But it has the connect?
[14:01] <k1l> pip__: its in the kernel since 2.6.31
[14:01] <newbie|2> [Gentoo]: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6561461/
[14:01] <pip__> k1l:i had a problem with a card reader with a usb 3 port on it
[14:01] <newbie|2> [Gentoo]: That is the second.  I don't remember the first pastebin
[14:01] <pip__> but twas a weird setup
[14:02] <[Gentoo]> newbie|2: everything looks ok on dmesg
[14:02] <pip__> wondering if i can just plug something straight into a usb 20-1 headewr on my mobo
[14:02] <pip__> usb 3 20 - 1 sorry
[14:02] <newbie|2> [Gentoo]: Including USB?
[14:02] <[Gentoo]> newbie|2: yes
[14:02] <newbie|2> Ok, I'll look into it further
[14:03] <newbie|2> [Gentoo]: thx.  I'm so happy for your help, even if I haven't yet found the solution. You have patience.  Thanks
[14:03] <newbie|2> Bye everyobe
[14:03] <[Gentoo]> bye
[14:03] <bgardner> shams: Looks like the command you want is: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:03] <paws> hello, can anyone tell me whats a good Cloud storage software, that i can host on my own server ?
[14:03] <bgardner> shams: That's going to drag in a huge list of packages, though - be warned.
[14:04] <pip__> k1l: so in theory I can plug a device into a USB3 20-1 header on my mobo & all should be good?
[14:04] <bgardner> shams: Alternatively, you can try to locate the actual dependencies and then add just those missing packages, which is more complex but won't install so many packages.
[14:04] <pip__> k1l: the iffy one had a usb cable that had to go into a usb3 port on the back of my rig
[14:05] <remoteCTRL> paws: you dont install a server into a cloud storage, as the name already suggests you store data there.
[14:05] <remoteCTRL> you can einterh buy a virtual server, that resembles possibly closest to what you are looking for, or a fullsize root server
[14:06] <paws> remoteCTRL: i want to create a storage where the users in my organization can login, backup files, and share files with other users or to the public
[14:06] <paws> something like dropbox or google drive, except i want to host it
[14:06] <remoteCTRL> paws: that is ok., but that is what the cloud does, no requirement for additinal servers
[14:07] <remoteCTRL> except you want to HOST it...
[14:07] <paws> remoteCTRL: i already have a dedicated ubuntu server, dont i need some software to install on it?
[14:08] <remoteCTRL> paws: well the concept of a cloud is roughly to spread a storage area over so many servers that you wont notice anymore on which one actually your data are...
[14:08] <remoteCTRL> so what you are talking about requires at leeast tree servers; two for the storage, one for the coordination
[14:08] <zykotick9> paws: look into owncloud (i've never used it, so don't know details)
[14:09] <slacko_> hello there
[14:09] <remoteCTRL> the clou of the cloud is also data redundancy; no matter what server fails, your data are never in peril
[14:09] <thermionic-xchat> I've installed 12.04.03 on a HP DL370 G6, install goes perfectly apart from NIC, which is a NX3031, which appears to be certified according to http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/4040:0100/
[14:09] <thermionic-xchat> but it isn;t seen as a network device
[14:09] <thermionic-xchat> it is seen via lspci
[14:09] <paws> would installing CloudStack help me accomplish this?
[14:10] <remoteCTRL> paws: one sinlge server wont do the trick for a cloud... its a server tehn not a cloud ;)
[14:10] <thermionic-xchat> 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: NetXen Incorporated NX3031 Multifunction 1/10-Gigabit Server Adapter (rev 42)
[14:10] <thermionic-xchat> any suggestions would be appreciated
[14:11] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: define: it isn't seen as a network device
[14:11] <thermionic-xchat> ifconfig doesn;t list it
[14:11] <slacko_> _______-----------------------------------_____________________-----------------------------
[14:11] <paws> well we alrady have a couple of servers on ESXi
[14:11] <shams> bgardner, thanks
[14:12] <thermionic-xchat> it (the 4 port NC375i, HP badged NX3031) is the only NIC device on the server
[14:12] <zykotick9> thermionic-xchat: 1) check "ifconfig -a" and 2) check "dmesg" for anything related to the card
[14:13] <thermionic-xchat> shall do, one minute
[14:13] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: then my educated guess is, that is either defective or somehow disabled in bios
[14:14] <remoteCTRL> paws: you mean a couple of virtual machines running on one ESXi?
[14:15] <paws> couple of vms on a couple of servers
[14:15] <paws> 5 to be exact
[14:15] <remoteCTRL> paws: if so, of course you CAN span a cloud over those, only it makes no sense...
[14:16] <thermionic-xchat> ifconfig -a just shows the lo
[14:16] <remoteCTRL> ya you should at least have TWO phsyical different servers to mirror the data, everything else is futile
[14:16] <paws> all i want is users to be able to upload and download files off the web, so we dont use dropbox
[14:16] <paws> because we have sensetive data
[14:16] <remoteCTRL> off the web?
[14:17] <paws> yes
[14:17] <paws> so they can share files
[14:17] <paws> say i wanna send you a file, wont fit on email
[14:17] <remoteCTRL> ok i get it
[14:17] <ikonia> just so I'm clear you want to use "the internet" for secure data
[14:18] <remoteCTRL> me personally, i would use sftp for that, but that is a matter of taste i would say...
[14:18] <remoteCTRL> ikonia: :S (y)
[14:19] <thermionic-xchat> aha dmesg shows the problem
[14:19] <thermionic-xchat> netxen_nic 0000:06:00.0: Flash fw[4.0.406] is < min fw supported[4.0.505]. Please update firmware on flash
[14:19] <remoteCTRL> paws: look a cloud is something where i upload my muyic collection, bute for sure not sensitive data...
[14:20] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: support matter for NetXen then...
[14:20] <paws> it will be locked down to only our organization tho
[14:20] <remoteCTRL> paws: just use one server with a raid volume, either mirror or raid 5 and install an ftp server and use the secure ftp protocol IF you have sensitive data!
[14:21] <paws> but people here are not that smart to use ftp :)
[14:21] <zykotick9> remoteCTRL: cloud is a marketing term - it doesn't "mean" anything.  there is no exact definition/requirement...
[14:21] <paws> so i want a nice little web template or a windows app (like dropbox) that they can just dump files in
[14:22] <remoteCTRL> zykotick9: agree, spekaing about "bst practice"
[14:22] <remoteCTRL> paws: basically an ftp client does exactly that...
[14:23] <paws> i know i can get away with ftp... but i want something nice looking :)
[14:23] <ikonia> paws: sorry, this sounds just like it's not thought through at all
[14:23] <ikonia> putting sensitive data in "the cloud"
[14:24] <paws> so does openstack do that?
[14:24] <remoteCTRL> paws: you got one window with the target, one window with the source, you click the object in demand an pull it over and release the mous, classic drag and drop, that easy enuff for your customers...?
[14:25] <marcolino> Hi, would like to know what is the community’s perception on checkinstall to build source .deb packages? I ask because I stumbled upon a forum which discouraged the use of checkinstall it also claimed that it left orphaned man pages on the system.
[14:25] <remoteCTRL> geez what does it have to do, make phunny colourful unicorns that poop rainbows while xou drag the files, or what is actually your request dude? :D
[14:26] <remoteCTRL> paws: ?
[14:26] <paws> yes it is... but we prefer the use something more 'cosmetically'
[14:26] <paws> better looking :)
[14:26] <remoteCTRL> paws: again, does it have to poop rainbows, while dragging or what is it that youre looking for? :D
[14:27] <paws> pretty much
[14:27] <paws> haha
[14:27] <paws> but seriously does openstack does this or not?
[14:27] <ikonia> I'm concerned that your priority for sensitive data transfer is "look good"
[14:27] <remoteCTRL> ya maybe ask in #cinderrella-tec :D
[14:28]  * ObrienDave thinks paws is concentrating on making it "idiot" proof
[14:28] <remoteCTRL> no such thing with SENSITIVE DATA!!
[14:29] <remoteCTRL> with sensitive data you need to IMPROVE THE IDIOT
[14:29] <ObrienDave> not arguing with you at all :)
[14:29] <paws> well thats what they want.. so who cares
[14:29] <paws> hehe
[14:29] <walk_wid_me> how to set abiwork save odt as default format ?
[14:29] <walk_wid_me> abiword
[14:29] <remoteCTRL> paws: if yiou care about your job you should, dude...
[14:29] <paws> its not gonna be used for accounting purposes...
[14:30] <paws> mustly just customer invoices will be put up there
[14:30] <paws> say we need to print new flyers... out flyers psd will be up there
[14:30] <paws> and stuff like that
[14:30] <remoteCTRL> paws: ya, as you said SENSITIVE DATA, i mean i dunno what freakin business you're in but i sure hope not in health or anything... *shiver*
[14:32] <marcolino> Hi, would like to know what is the community’s perception on checkinstall to build source .deb packages? I ask because I stumbled upon a forum which discouraged the use of checkinstall it also claimed that it left orphaned man pages on the system.
[14:33] <codephobic> Hi
[14:33] <geirha> walk_wid_me: Probably not configurable
[14:33] <walk_wid_me> okay
[14:33] <walk_wid_me> is abiword dying ?
[14:33] <remoteCTRL> codephobic: hi!
[14:33] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: looks liek I'm goign to have to install an RPM based system to update the flash...
[14:34] <thermionic-xchat> c'est la vie
[14:34] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: you can always try ina translazte with "alien" if something is not available as .deb
[14:34] <codephobic> What's the best way to configure the mouse buttons (specifically the back and forward buttons) on the Logitech M570 trackball? I see some solutions requiring xorg.conf, but I wanted to check here first before I go and much around with that.
[14:35] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: as there is no network connectivity on the box, probably quicker to download and burn a centos DVD that try to get the dependencies worked out...
[14:36] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: that of course requires build-essential, and a few more, if  i recall correctly...
[14:36] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: exactly, and getting everything downloaded, then copying via USB key....
[14:37] <untaken> where are the gtk menu items stored?
[14:37] <lduros> hi, I have an error from python/mysql that shows like this: _mysql_exceptions.Warning: Data truncated for column 'name' at row 99
[14:37] <lduros> I'm trying to get to see what it is exactly in the mysql logs
[14:37] <lduros> but they are all empty.
[14:37] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: many thanks for your help :-)
[14:37] <lduros> It should be in /var/log/mysql.log correct?
[14:38] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: if <ou want to give it a shot tho, here are youre dependencies:
[14:38] <remoteCTRL> http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/alien
[14:38] <lduros> i also have /var/log/mysql/error.log but it's empty
[14:38] <ShawnP1963> before I get myself into trouble is this the channel to ask questions about Ubuntu?
[14:38] <lduros> all the mysql logs seem empty
[14:38] <pgar23> ShawnP1963 - Yes
[14:39] <remoteCTRL> ShawnP1963: depends on the question, this is the support channel, for other topics #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:40] <ShawnP1963>  do you know how to make a copy or image of a hard drive BEFORE installing Ubuntu?  MBR, Boot.ini, the like?
[14:40] <remoteCTRL> ShawnP1963: to make a raw copy you can for example use the dd command
[14:40] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: it's not just the dependancies of alien, its the dependancies of the dependancies etc etc and having to install each one with dpkg -i
[14:41] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: you should have most of them, dpkg should be presend on any system...
[14:41] <ShawnP1963> I just had Boot-Repair kill my laptop.  Hmm from the Windows cmd prompt?  I just don't want to run into a complete boot failure again after last night grrrrrr.
[14:41] <thermionic-xchat> its a base install from CD, so build-essential (a meta package) isn't there
[14:42] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: but it is still an experiment for a few hours, i you just could insert the card into a windwos machine youre problably best off...
[14:42] <ShawnP1963> remoteCTRL: I just had Boot-Repair kill my laptop.  Hmm from the Windows cmd prompt?  I just don't want to run into a complete boot failure again after last night grrrrrr.
[14:43] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: I could install Win2008 on it, but the card won't go into another box, only ~30 min to download the Centos DVD :-)
[14:43] <remoteCTRL> ShawnP1963: have a try on supergrub cd
[14:43] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: the card wont go into another box? dude, ANY windwos client will do, dioesnt have to be a server for sure ;)
[14:44] <ShawnP1963> remoteCTRL: Can I put that on a LIve USB?  The laptop is a HP Ultrabook so doesn't have an optical drive.  And can I do this from Win8?  I haven't reinstall Ubuntu yet.
[14:44] <anon12> I installed a kernel manually and then removed it but, programs keep compiling modules for the removed kernel. How do I fix it so that the modules are only compiled for the running kernel?
[14:44] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: it's a NC375i, PCI 4x with an additional PCI-e type connector on it
[14:45] <remoteCTRL> ShawnP1963: you should perfectly be able to create a bootable supergrub cd for usb stick, follow the instructions on their site
[14:45] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: I can have Centos installed quicker than windows...
[14:45] <ShawnP1963> remoteCTRL:  Thanks I'll give it a shot.
[14:45] <glitsj16> anon12: you probably still have the headers packages installed for that kernel, have you tried purging those too yet?
[14:45] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: dual W5580 and 32GB
[14:46] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: no point iin installing windows if the question is centos or windows, it was a suggeszton only valid in case you had a windows up and running somewhere...
[14:46] <remoteCTRL> ShawnP1963: np :)
[14:46] <anon12> glitsj16, the headers do not show up when I use dpkg to search for them
[14:46] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: matter of minutes then...
[14:48] <glitsj16> anon12: do you mean dkms is still (trying to) compile kernel modules ?
[14:48] <gordonjcp> in /etc/network/interfaces, how can I define an interface with a static IP address that might not always be present?
[14:48] <gordonjcp> if I say "auto usb0" network-manager freaks out when I try to boot without the USB device attached
[14:48] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: from the looks of it, it should fit into any arbitrary pc with a free slot...?
[14:48] <gordonjcp> if I *don't* have "auto usb0" it doesn't configure the network even manually
[14:49] <anon12> glitsj16, yes dkms is still trying to compile modules for the kernel that is removed
[14:49] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: NC375i, not NC375T
[14:50] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: what looks like two PCI-E connectors in line...
[14:50] <zykotick9> gordonjcp: "audo usb0" means, automatically bring up on boot.  you'd want to remove that, if it's not always present.
[14:50] <thermionic-xchat> I;m guessing the second one is for the 10G upgrade module
[14:50] <remoteCTRL> gordonjcp: not sure if i understand you right, do you have the network managed variable set to yes in nm-settings.conf, but you are still trying to influence via /etc/network/interfaces ?
[14:51] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: right, but if I do that, ifconfig usb0 up doesn't configure the interface
[14:51] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: sec..
[14:51] <gordonjcp> remoteCTRL: I haven't looked at nm-settings.conf, maybe I need to
[14:51] <gordonjcp> remoteCTRL: I don't appear to have nm-settings.conf
[14:51] <zykotick9> gordonjcp: interfaces and nm are mutually exclusive...
[14:52] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: okay, so how do I solve this?
[14:52] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: if nm is allowed anywhere near USB network devices, it sets them as the default route which is *never* the right thing to do
[14:52] <zykotick9> gordonjcp: don't know...  but, i'd think going the n-m route might be your answers?
[14:52] <remoteCTRL> gordonjcp: i hope i am not talking bs now, but as far as i recall you got a conflict if you use network manager simultaneously to /etc/network/interfaces...
[14:52] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: there just doesn't appear to be a sane way to do this
[14:53] <marcolino> Hi, just changed permissions to the opt directory yet I still can't create folders, do I need to do something else other then chmod and chown?
[14:53] <codephobic> Is configuring xorg.conf the best way to get custom mouse buttons working in Ubuntu 13.10?
[14:53] <zykotick9> gordonjcp: i wouldn't think interface is the way to go, for a usb device...
[14:53] <glitsj16> anon12: strange, without the headers dkms won't do much i think .. nothing left-over if you check with `apt-cache policy linux-headers* | grep Installed` ?
[14:53] <zykotick9> codephobic: using snippet in xorg.conf.d would be better
[14:53] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: well, if I let network-manager do it, it pulls a DHCP lease from the USB device which clobbers my wifi
[14:54] <ActionPa1snip> marcolino: why are you chowning there?
[14:54] <codephobic> zykotick9, thanks I'll have a look at that/
[14:54] <ActionPa1snip> marcolino: etc
[14:54] <codephobic> .*
[14:54] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: that looks perfectly like a pci slot to me, a "normal" nic only fills a few pins, this quadrupel adapter might need a few more, never mind the e,mpty spaces inbetween...
[14:54] <remoteCTRL> there can practically go nothing wrong, either it fits or not, either it boots or it beeps...
[14:54] <zykotick9> gordonjcp: personally, i hate n-m... but i don't reply on USB removeable network adapters either... best of luck.
[14:54] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: I don't want usb0 to be the default route, but I do want to set some specific routes for it
[14:54] <anon12> glitsj16, nothing left with apt-cache policy linux-headers* | grep Installed
[14:54] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: this is not actually a network adaptor, but a radio interface
[14:55] <remoteCTRL> zykotick9: he might have a usb attached umts stick there or something...
[14:55] <glitsj16> anon12: how did you install the kernel you now removed?
[14:55] <marcolino> codephobic, I haven't used the desktop version in a while now, but I am certain you can customise the mouse via the mouse/keyboard system setting, even alias (if that's the correct word to use) the buttons
[14:55] <gordonjcp> remoteCTRL: it's a radio interface
[14:55] <anon12> glitsj16, compiled and removed it after it didn't work
[14:56] <remoteCTRL> gordonjcp: radio like in rasiostation, or like in truckdriver radio...?
[14:56] <gordonjcp> remoteCTRL: more like blue light services radio, but the latter
[14:56] <marcolino> ActionPa1snip, it is owned by root... too bothersome to work as root
[14:56] <gordonjcp> remoteCTRL: one is used as a gateway for the radio network
[14:56] <remoteCTRL> gordonjcp: so not that this helps with the question, bnut why would you remove it...?
[14:57] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: see how they are the same depth...  http://preview.tinyurl.com/nmejtjm
[14:57] <ActionPa1snip> marcolino: yes but did you ever stop and think as to WHY it is root owned?
[14:57] <gordonjcp> remoteCTRL: because I'm developing software for it, and it's not always plugged into my laptop
[14:58] <glitsj16> anon12: hmm .. if you did a `sudo make install` things won't get referenced in dpkg, you might want to look at /usr/src to check if there's anything there you need to remove
[14:58] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: whats your point dude?
[14:58] <marcolino> ActionPa1snip, what is bugging me is that the permission has been changed yet I can't make a test folder... no I haven't, please explain considering root still owns it
[14:59] <codephobic> marcolino, I can't seem to find any gui app within ubuntu that allows for button configuration for the mouse.
[14:59] <ActionPa1snip> marcolino: for security, people have read access and only root has write, so if you install aplications and whatnot there then malicious code and users cannot make changes and compromise the OS
[14:59] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: that it won't fit into a normal PCI-E slot, unless there is nothing behind the PCI-E slot on the motherboard
[14:59] <remoteCTRL> gordonjcp: you might want to have a look at udev instead of /etc/network/interfaces, you can define rulesets for udev, what to do when you attach a certain device
[15:00] <gordonjcp> is it possible to get network-manager to have a wildcard for the mac address of a device?
[15:00] <gordonjcp> remoteCTRL: hm, maybe that's what I need to do
[15:00] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: OH! now i got you :)
[15:00] <ActionPa1snip> marcolino: why do you think Windows morons get so many issues, they run their web browsr as admin, meanning any java script has FULL access to the OS, and they get problems
[15:00] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: :-)
[15:00] <ActionPa1snip> marcolino: using a true user and using sudo and so forth stops all this aggro
[15:01] <ActionPa1snip> marcolino: so essentially you are sacrificing system security for a bit of convenience.
[15:01] <anon12> glitsj16, /usr/src does not have the files in it
[15:01] <glitsj16> anon12: out of ideas on this one, except doing a 'sudo make uninstall' if you still have the compile tree .. sorry
[15:02] <marcolino> ActionPa1snip, I honestly thought keeping the owner and group as root:myself and permission as 775 would not be that much of a compromise
[15:02] <remoteCTRL> :D
[15:03] <y0sh_> hello
[15:03] <anon12> glitsj16, n
[15:03] <pengunix> hi
[15:03] <remoteCTRL> hi guys, ask away,please!
[15:03] <pengunix> Amazing, isn't it? You can click on all those links, but there comes up nothing: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/
[15:03] <marcolino> codephobic, not sure whether you know wwere the mosue settings is but hopefully this link should help http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/ubuntu-13-04-gains-improved-mouse-touchpad-settings
[15:04] <pengunix> why are those directory there at the first place?
[15:04] <anon12> glitsj16, will sudo make uninstall remove the kernel headers without the kernel? the make file is asking to "Compile also drivers which will not load (COMPILE_TEST) [N/y/?] (NEW) "
[15:04] <randomsrvapps> Nice to be back using Ubuntu again
[15:04] <remoteCTRL> pengunix: works fine for me!
[15:05] <randomsrvapps> ^ +1 that
[15:05] <glitsj16> anon12: it should remove everything it installed, worth a shot to make it fully as you did before and run the make uninstall after that
[15:05] <remoteCTRL> pengunix: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/release-20120403/ ?
[15:05] <marcolino> codephobic, can't promise that's what you're looking for, hopefully it is
[15:07] <jhutchins> anon12: You migh want to look at the process of building .deb packages instead of make install.  make uninstall only works if somebody set it up.
[15:07] <marcolino> ActionPa1snip, I understood what you wrote, however, I am still puzzled that I can't actually create folder considering ls show that I have permission
[15:08] <codephobic> marcolino, thanks for the help. sadly that's not got the options for mouse button configuration.
[15:08] <pengunix> remoteCTRL: hm, but lxc is missing :(   http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/release-20120403/
[15:08] <codephobic> I'll give the xorg configuration method a go.
[15:09] <katana-> hi
[15:09] <katana-> this bar is ust going back and forth forever http://i.imgur.com/s8ZJHBG.png
[15:09] <randomsrvapps> Anybody know about ubuntu server support for fibre channel NICs?
[15:09] <katana-> what should I do?
[15:10] <katana-> the updater crashed last time I used it
[15:10] <marcolino> codephobic, what exactly are you trying to do?
[15:10] <Wiz_KeeD> Hello, can anyone provide some guidance on this topic? as quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
[15:10] <Wiz_KeeD> * anshulk has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[15:10] <Wiz_KeeD> * krzkrz<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[15:10] <Wiz_KeeD> * fenre
[15:10] <Wiz_KeeD> sorry
[15:10] <FloodBot1> Wiz_KeeD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:10] <Wiz_KeeD> damn touchpad!
[15:10] <Wiz_KeeD> http://askubuntu.com/questions/389733/disabling-discrete-nvidia-card-on-asus-r501vb-on-13-10-saucy-vgaswitharoo-or-bu
[15:11] <randomsrvapps> wow
[15:11] <pengunix> randomsrvapps: you already got an answer to your question?
[15:11] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: Well. If you use Bumblebee, you can *still* use your NVidia card for the GPU-heavy applications, but it will be disabled most of the time.
[15:11] <randomsrvapps> Nope
[15:11] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: However, it only works with Optimus cards.
[15:12] <randomsrvapps> Just amused by the Floodbot
[15:12] <theadmin> randomsrvapps: There's 3 of them. Nobody knows why.
[15:12] <Wiz_KeeD> theadmin, I don't want to use it at all...It could die for all I care, and yes it is a Optimus system, I just wanted to make sure I was successful in killing it
[15:12] <Pici> theadmin: redundancy.
[15:12] <theadmin> Pici: Aw, you killed the mystery!
[15:12] <randomsrvapps> Haha probably for loadbalancing :P in this popular channel
[15:12] <remoteCTRL> pengunix: something appears to be very wrong there, please address a support request to ubuntu...
[15:13] <Pici> theadmin: sorry.  You can still believe that its some sort of conspiracy.
[15:13] <uladzislau> msg NickServ identify scissor
[15:13] <pengunix> remoteCTRL: so at least I haven't got vision problems :)
[15:13] <Pici> uladzislau: might want to change that password now :/
[15:13] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: Ah, alright then. Well, the "bbswitch" part of Bumblebee switches off the NVidia GPU without doing much else.
[15:13] <codephobic> marcolino, I'm trying to configure the two thumb buttons on my trackball (Logitech M570). At the moment they have no function at all.
[15:14] <randomsrvapps> Bumblebee has improved so much in recent times, it's wonderful.
[15:14] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: ...I think. Actually it might be another one.
[15:14] <theadmin> But yes, Bumblebee works rather nicely here.
[15:14] <Wiz_KeeD> theadmin, the post I've pasted gives the information neccesairy, I switched it off with vgaswitcharoo
[15:14] <remoteCTRL> pengunix: not if i don't accidentally have the same ones...
[15:14] <Wiz_KeeD> I just wanted to know if it was successful or I should try bbswitch
[15:15] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: Oh. Well. See, for one, if the "nvidia" module loads.
[15:15] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: lsmod | grep nvidia
[15:15] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: If it does, you probably failed.
[15:15] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: (also check for nouveau)
[15:15] <remoteCTRL> theadmin: watch for the spambot :D
[15:16] <Wiz_KeeD> theadmin, that grep returned nothing
[15:16] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[15:16] <Rush905> hello
[15:16] <pengunix> randomsrvapps: basically you need some drivers for the fibre channel hardware
[15:16] <pengunix> randomsrvapps: and the underlying protocol used has to be supported, too
[15:16] <marcolino> codephobic, not sure about that best bet go with the xorg settings you found, just make a copy of whichever file(s) you're going to change nd you should be good to go, the worse is it wont work and all you have to do is use your copy
[15:16] <zteam> Hi all!
[15:16] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: Good. Then also search for nouveau the same way (not sure how that's spelt, silly baguette spelling)
[15:16] <Wiz_KeeD> theadmin, nouveau returned this: http://pastie.org/8547434
[15:16] <Wiz_KeeD> hahahahahahha
[15:16]  * Wiz_KeeD laughs
[15:16] <Wiz_KeeD> +10 points for theadmin, with you on that one
[15:17] <codephobic> fingers crossed.
[15:17] <codephobic> time for a reboot.
[15:17] <randomsrvapps> penguinx: I basically just want to run fibre from an ubuntu server to a switch to get at least 10gbps link speed, trying to figure out which fibre channel card to buy
[15:18] <codephobic> \quit
[15:18] <zteam> I have some problems with my Ubuntu 13.10 install, sometimes, LightDM doesn't load correctly and I only get to a black-screen with a blinking cursor, and then I have to restart it with the service command, any ideas?
[15:19] <Wiz_KeeD> theadmin, I have 1:DIS: :Off:0000:01:00.0*
[15:19] <remoteCTRL> randomsrvapps: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[15:19] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: wut
[15:19] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: What is that string of?
[15:19] <Wiz_KeeD> it's all in the post man
[15:19] <Wiz_KeeD> http://askubuntu.com/questions/389733/disabling-discrete-nvidia-card-on-asus-r501vb-on-13-10-saucy-vgaswitharoo-or-bu
[15:20] <zteam> Or should I have to give up, and just use  GDM or something instead?
[15:20] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: Oh. Well, considering grep nouveau returns, it didn't get disabled.
[15:20] <remoteCTRL> randomsrvapps: http://linuxhcl.com/
[15:20] <randomsrvapps> and it's a dell poweredge R310 server if that helps
[15:20] <Wiz_KeeD> hmmm
[15:20] <helmut_> hi
[15:20] <remoteCTRL> zteam: contents of log fils could help...
[15:21] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm
[15:21] <Wiz_KeeD> theadmin, my laptop tempertature goes down a lot, isn't that indicative of it working?
[15:21] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: Hm. It may be, actually, but the driver still stays loaded, eh?
[15:22] <Wiz_KeeD> so bumblebee is the way to go in the end?
[15:22] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: I dunno, for one, I have bumblebee on my optimus laptop, when I don't have any apps using the discrete GPU, the battery lasts for about 6 hours. Pre-bumblebee, it lasted 2 at most.
[15:22] <theadmin> So, *that*'s working.
[15:22] <Wiz_KeeD> can I ask what laptop model? or what graphics card?
[15:22] <Wiz_KeeD> You think you can help me setup bumblebee as well?
[15:23] <theadmin> Dell XPS 15z, Geforce GT 525M
[15:23] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: You're on 13.10, it should be as simple as "sudo apt-get install bumblebee"
[15:23] <zteam> remoteCTRL, of course :-)
[15:23] <Wiz_KeeD> really? :O
[15:23] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: Yeah, it's in the repos now
[15:23] <rantic> theadmin: This might not be the best time to ask, but how is the 15z? :)
[15:23] <zteam> remoteCTRL, there you go :-) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6561865/
[15:24] <Mongo44> What are the benefits of having 12.04 LTS, are the download packages better?
[15:24] <theadmin> rantic: Rather offtopic discussion, if anything. Mind PM?
[15:24] <theadmin> Mongo44: Mostly: longer support. It also tends to be more stable.
[15:24] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/8547448, what's primus?
[15:24] <theadmin> Mongo44: With a non-LTS release, you'll have to upgrade every 9 months.
[15:24] <rantic> theadmin: No I wouldn't mind
[15:25] <randomsrvapps> Wiz_KeeD: I can confirm on an Alienware M14xR2 my battery life and gaming performance have improved greatly due to the use of bumblebee
[15:25] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: It's an alternative tool to run apps on the NVidia GPU, similar to optirun but performs better in many cases
[15:25] <Mongo44> theadmin: You mean upgrade to ensure you continue to get new updates?
[15:25] <theadmin> Mongo44: Yes, as in, upgrade to the next Ubuntu version.
[15:25] <Wiz_KeeD> since my only objective is to stop the graphics card should I install the full bumblebee?
[15:25] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you for sharing randomsrvapps !
[15:25] <Wiz_KeeD> Alienware...wow :))
[15:26] <remoteCTRL> zteam:  [+28.02s] DEBUG: Session pid=1781: Logging to .xsession-errors ? cant really find anything wrong with this log...?
[15:26] <ResQue> is it safe to delete some of the old vmlinuz and initrd version files from my /boot folder. Or is there extra config files or procedure i need to run after i delete them?
[15:26] <Mongo44> If you don't upgrade non-LTS versions as needed what could happen?
[15:27] <assistente> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193298 solutions?
[15:27] <k1l> Mongo44: loosing support
[15:27] <randomsrvapps> Wiz_KeeD: I suggest that if you want to disable the graphics card, install full bumblebee. Your card will remain unused until you run an application with "optirun".
[15:27] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: Yeah, surely, just install bumblebee.
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> Ok...installed it
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> now what?
[15:27] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: Primus is entirely unnecessary for your use case.
[15:27] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: Eh. Just reboot.
[15:27] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: And you should be all good to go.
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> okay...brb guys
[15:27] <randomsrvapps> Yep
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> wow...really?
[15:28] <Wiz_KeeD> let me try 1 sec
[15:28] <zteam> remoteCTRL, don't know if I shall upload the whole /var/log/lightdm directory?
[15:28] <randomsrvapps> Bumblebee was so buggy 6 months or so ago
[15:28] <randomsrvapps> so good now
[15:28] <zteam> remoteCTRL, Nope, not me either, I have been reading that logfile, myself sometimes, but I don't get what is wrong
[15:29] <glitsj16> ResQue: safer to remove old kernels through the software center or whatever package manager you use (apt-get, synaptic ...)
[15:29] <randomsrvapps> Question, in pulseaudio when I select a certain microphone when I'm recording or in a VOIP call it tends to go back to a different one by itself. Any ideas?
[15:30] <Wiz_KeeD> I started to like really panic for a bit there
[15:30] <randomsrvapps> As soon as I close the "sound settings menu"
[15:30] <Wiz_KeeD> screen was black for 10 secconds after reboot
[15:30] <Wiz_KeeD> How do I check if it's working?
[15:30] <randomsrvapps> It's okay Wiz_KeeD, linux is always fixable
[15:30] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: That happens when bumblebee loads for some reason, not sure why. So it probably works.
[15:31] <Wiz_KeeD> Shit..it's already going to 47-50 degrees, me no likey
[15:31] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: You can check with, say, "optirun glxgears" (or any other graphics-heavy app)
[15:31] <theadmin> Oh? That's odd.
[15:31] <zteam> remoteCTRL, not sure where I can find this .xsession-errors either, have one in my home directory, but this issue, happens before I log in, so doesn't seem related?
[15:31] <randomsrvapps> Maybe the nvidia card has been set to the default?
[15:31] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: Maybe your *other* GPU (the Intel one?) is overheating?
[15:32] <theadmin> zteam: See /var/log/lightdm/, would likely be there
[15:33] <Wiz_KeeD> no can't be that, it was really cool when I switched it off with vgaswitcharoo
[15:33] <theadmin> zteam: If anything, you can always try an alternative display manager. I wouldn't recommend GDM though as it pulls in a bunch of rubbish including even the Gnome Shell
[15:33] <randomsrvapps> Wiz_KeeD, check your cpu usage, anything unusual?
[15:33] <honestemu> Is there any sensitive information in the dotfiles in the home directory that I should be wary of placing in a github repository?
[15:34] <Wiz_KeeD> 3-7 percent
[15:34] <theadmin> honestemu: There likely is.
[15:34] <randomsrvapps> hmm
[15:34] <Wiz_KeeD> stabilised at 45 degrees
[15:34] <Wiz_KeeD> now
[15:34] <theadmin> honestemu: Most apps will end up storing saved passwords *somewhere* in them. Many of them store them in an unencrypted manner.
[15:34] <theadmin> honestemu: So, yes.
[15:35] <honestemu> theadmin:How am I supposed to know what I can and cannot share? Like, do you have examples? I know I'm probably not supposed to share the stuff in .ssh.
[15:35] <assistente> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193298 solutions?
[15:35] <Wiz_KeeD> it DOES look okay though...
[15:35] <Wiz_KeeD> wow...ubuntu and opensource is amazing...imagine what progress and support it has when almost nobody follows it as they follow microsoft
[15:35] <theadmin> honestemu: Avoid sharing anything from apps like instant messengers, browsers, etc as a general rule
[15:35] <Wiz_KeeD> OEMS and all that
[15:36] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: Plenty of OEMs install Ubuntu nowadays.
[15:36] <Wiz_KeeD> if it doesn't go over 45 degrees I'm happy
[15:36] <Wiz_KeeD> theadmin, yeah but they do not have ubuntu in mind as much as windows, take for example the optimus thing and how nvidia doesn't focus on providing support
[15:36] <Wiz_KeeD> yet the community come up with crazy stuff like bumblebee
[15:36] <Wiz_KeeD> it's...wow
[15:37] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: NVidia is developing Optimus support for Linux, they're just a bit slow on that. Or were, anyway.
[15:37] <Wiz_KeeD> This is probably going to become the most widespread operating system ever...like android is taking up ground now
[15:37] <theadmin> But yeah, can't deny the awesomeness of the Ubuntu community.
[15:37] <neonpolaris> Can anyone here help with a sed/regex question?
[15:38] <zteam> theadmin, yes, that's what I think too, but it isn't there :)
[15:38] <theadmin> neonpolaris: Might want to try ##sed
[15:38] <neonpolaris> oh, thanks
[15:38] <theadmin> neonpolaris: (or even #perl, for that matter, since they practically invented regular expressions :D)
[15:38] <theadmin> ...okay that's an overestimation, but still
[15:39] <randomsrvapps> Wiz_KeeD: I just read that it's actually possible to blacklist the Nvidia kernel module
[15:39] <Wiz_KeeD> randomsrvapps, I asked that question too...can't you just blacklist the thing from beying loaded? But I saw some other posts saying you can but it will still be running and draining power
[15:40] <randomsrvapps> The only way to stop a piece of hardware from using power is to physically disable the power going to it
[15:40] <randomsrvapps> it will always use *some* power, however small amount that may be
[15:40] <khaled_KG> hello, how to generate core files in the latest version of ubuntu 13.10
[15:44] <randomsrvapps> Anybody had bad experiences with ubuntu + SSDs?
[15:46] <randomsrvapps> I spent $600 on a 120 GB SSD in 2008, which broke a few weeks later from a kernel panic in ubuntu
[15:46] <randomsrvapps> file system only readable by using testdisk
[15:48] <jhutchins> assistente: It helps if you provide a summary of your problem rather than just posting a link.
[15:48] <jhutchins> assistente: In any case, it is most likely a problem with the DHCP server not providing the DNS information.
[15:49] <jhutchins> assistente: The DHCP client system is known to create resolv.conf correctly if the information is received from the server.
[15:49] <assistente> jhutchins, no, because if i start a original xubuntu livecd, not customized, works, takes the dns
[15:49] <katherinem13> Any way I can install Apache via apt-get WITHOUT it starting the server afterwards?
[15:49] <assistente> with this customized no
[15:50] <jhutchins> assistente: What did you change?
[15:50] <assistente> i addedd desktop packages, souch libreoffice, and many more
[15:51] <theadmin> katherinem13: Create /etc/init/apache2.conf manually, with the word "manual" in it
[15:51] <theadmin> katherinem13: Then do the install.
[15:52] <katherinem13> theadmin: okay, thanks, i'll try copying that file from another machine and modifying it.
[15:53] <assistente> jhutchins, so now i don't know what to try
[15:53] <theadmin> katherinem13: Eh. Okay. Just replace "start on ..." with "manual"
[15:55] <randomsrvapps> That was odd, my computer just hanged on 100% cpu usage
[15:55] <remoteCTRL> zteam: your log file is being overwritten, when you boot the computer successfully, you need to login on console when it doesnt and backup the logfile by renaming it.
[15:55] <remoteCTRL> when you reboot to a working graphical interface you can repaste the renamed log file!
[15:55] <katherinem13> theadmin: Hm, I don't have /etc/init/apache2.conf, only /etc/init.d/apache2.
[15:57] <theadmin> katherinem13: Ah... Then the case should be even simplier. Create the /etc/init/apache2.conf, simply place the word "manual" in it.
[15:57] <theadmin> katherinem13: After the installation, remove the file if you wish for Apache to start on bootup.
[15:59] <katherinem13> theadmin: Okay. I just don't want it to start right away since I've got other HTTP servers running and want to move it to another server name / port before starting it, so that it doesn't affect users of the currently running servers.
[15:59] <theadmin> katherinem13: Oh. Eh. If something already has port 80 taken it will just fail to start.
[16:00] <remoteCTRL> zteam: how many log files do you have in that directory? i use kde so i am not so familiar with lght.dm, do you have some .0 and .1 an d.2 files...?
[16:00] <remoteCTRL> cos if so, you need to ook for older versions to find the one with the errors while booting...
[16:01] <vacho> does crontab by default send an email once executed?
[16:02] <jhutchins> assistente: Simply adding packages wouldn't affect the dhcp system.
[16:02] <jhutchins> assistente: Perhaps there was an error in the remastering process, or something has broken the ability of the client to write the file.  Logs might help determine what is happening.
[16:03] <assistente> jhutchins, yes i agree. i see that at boot service "startpar bridge" is started and stopped many times... what is?
[16:03] <djangonoob> is it possible to disable a top area of the touchpad from my notebook?
[16:03] <jhutchins> katherinem13: conf file would be in /etc/apache2, not in init.
[16:05] <katherinem13> jhutchins: that's the configuration, not the init script.
[16:06] <jhutchins> katherinem13: Right, /etc/apache2/conf/ or conf.d ...
[16:07] <jhutchins> assistente: No idea.
[16:07] <katherinem13> jhutchins: i'm not sure why you're referring to those, there's no problem with the configuration of apache, i just don't want it started automatically.
[16:07] <Wiz_KeeD> Well I guess I could handle a few extra degrees and use my nvidia card when needed...hurray bumblebee
[16:08] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: :D
[16:09] <Wiz_KeeD> theadmin, except underclocking the proccessor (Which I did) any other tips on how to reduce battery consumption and heat?
[16:09] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: eh... not really, apart from the paradoxal one.
[16:09] <Wiz_KeeD> meaning?
[16:09] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: (remove battery and shut it down. No consumption, no heat)
[16:09] <theadmin> :D
[16:10] <Wiz_KeeD> hahaha
[16:10] <Wiz_KeeD> XD
[16:10] <Wiz_KeeD> it's either way better than I hoped for
[16:10] <Wiz_KeeD> never going back to 12.04 LTS with this kind of computer (UEFI and Optimus)
[16:11] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: Might also want to lower the screen brightness cause that seems a battery hog.
[16:11] <Wiz_KeeD> I god some VEERY slick animations when minimising and stuff, I assume nvidia card is doing the job there...didn't see them before, these effects
[16:12] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: Unlikely, unless you explicitly ran Unity with bumblebee.
[16:12] <zteam> remoteCTRL, yes , I do, I do have 10 files, there
[16:12] <theadmin> ...which actually never worked for me, it ended up crashing
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> I did not
[16:13] <zteam> remoteCTRL, sorry for the delay I was stuck in phone for a little while
[16:13] <remoteCTRL> zteam: you most likely pasted the wrong one, grep the files for error or fail to see which ones...
[16:13] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: Actually, you can easily see which card the desktop uses in System Settings -> Details
[16:13] <remoteCTRL> zteam: never mind.. :)
[16:13] <assistente> jhutchins, i find this post releated to debian http://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2009/04/msg00040.html what i must do?
[16:14] <Wiz_KeeD> really? :O
[16:14] <Wiz_KeeD> graphics name Intel® Ivybridge Mobile
[16:14] <theadmin> Well there you go
[16:15] <Wiz_KeeD> so as long as I just keep programming my phython, I should have no issues at all
[16:15] <djangonoob> how to disable a top area of the touchpad? e.g. about 5mm top
[16:15] <Wiz_KeeD> python*
[16:17] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: ...that is already an issue
[16:17] <Wiz_KeeD> never!
[16:17] <theadmin> Why would you program Python? There's already a good interpreter that comes with Ubuntu. I do hope you mean programming *in* Python, because that's fun.
[16:18] <Rory> really theadmin :P
[16:19] <theadmin> Rory: Failed to interpret. Please rephrase.
[16:19] <Rory> theadmin: I'm just poking fun at your arguing semantics
[16:19] <theadmin> Ah. Okay.
[16:19] <theadmin> Rory: Also, Williams?
[16:20] <Rory> theadmin: Sorry?
[16:20] <theadmin> Rory: Just trying to figure out if you are really called Rory or the nickname is a Doctor Who character reference.
[16:20] <theadmin> Anyways, got offtopic, sorry.
[16:20] <Rory> theadmin: My name is Rory.
[16:24] <glitsj16> katherinem13: http://lifeonubuntu.com/how-to-prevent-server-daemons-from-starting-during-apt-get-install/ might be what you want .. also http://askubuntu.com/questions/365911/why-the-services-do-not-start-at-installation for some background on that
[16:25] <neyder_> hi there!
[16:25] <GeziParki_Devrim> Hii
[16:26] <GeziParki_Devrim> Hello
[16:26] <neyder_> i'm copy-paste an xampp instalation and i realize that mysql user isn't created on target system, how can I create mysql user with 999 UID?
[16:26] <theadmin> neyder_: adduser --uid 999 mysql
[16:28] <evanm1> Hi all just showing off all the support on irc.
[16:29] <theadmin> neyder_: (with sudo)
[16:29] <katherinem13> glitsj16: taking a look at your link, thanks
[16:31] <Sloppsta> guys what am i doing wrong here? http://pastebin.com/qg08HGDM
[16:32] <theadmin> Sloppsta: Something's messy with that folder's ownership. Run chown $USER:USER /home/ubuntu/Downloads/rtl8192CU_linux_v2.0.939.20100726 -R
[16:32] <Sloppsta> :D will do!
[16:32] <neyder_> theadmin, sudo addgroud --system --gid 999 mysql && sudo adduser --system --uid 999 mysql
[16:33] <acecabana> so I've been trying to set up a live usb key using dd in the terminal. I've done it many times before successfully. Now for some reason, when I go to boot from the usb key my computer hangs with a blinking cursor in the top left corner of the screen. It doesn't matter what distro I put on the USB key, it's the same result each time. Could my usb key be dead?
[16:33] <theadmin> Sloppsta: Err, $USER:$USER
[16:33] <theadmin> Sloppsta: Dollar there.
[16:34] <Sloppsta> chown $USER:$USER /home/ubuntu/Downloads/rtl8192CU_linux_v2.0.939.20100726 -R gotcha!
[16:34] <JoBArTe_Skuld> hey guys, is possible to modifiy a apt-get do display info similar to yum? https://gist.github.com/joubertredrat/7658575
[16:34] <k1l> Sloppsta: for arm specific questions you might get more feedback in #ubuntu-arm
[16:34] <Sloppsta> oh sweet! didnt know there was that. tyvm
[16:35] <theadmin> JoBArTe_Skuld: Not that I know of, sadly
[16:37] <nitroxs> hola
[16:37] <Rory> nitroxs: Hello
[16:37] <JoBArTe_Skuld> theadmin, I thought it could be some wrapper that could be changed
[16:37] <nitroxs> hi
[16:38] <nath_schwarz> hi guys, got a little problem. my ubuntu server on 12.04.3 doesn't show anything on the monitor - it just says 'out of range'. i already tried to boot it in l3 and changed the grub settings. does anybody have an idea?
[16:39] <Rory> nath_schwarz: Can you boot into Recovery Mode by selecting that option from the Grub boot menu?
[16:39] <nath_schwarz> yes, same problem
[16:39] <Rory> nath_schwarz: Oh you said
[16:40] <Rory> nath_schwarz: You could try removing xorg.conf: "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak" and see if that helps
[16:40] <nath_schwarz> well, i already wanted to change the settings there. it doesn't even have that conf-file (maybe, because i didn't install a de^^)
[16:42] <miketomdool>  nath_schwarz to my knowledge X11 doesn't create a config file be default
[16:43] <nath_schwarz> yeah? i thought so^^ i will try to get a default one or let x11 create one, maybe that'll help
[16:46] <miketomdool> nath_schwarz, this should hel you http://askubuntu.com/questions/4662/where-is-the-x-org-config-file-how-do-i-configure-x-there
[16:48] <Sloppsta-ARM> make: *** /lib/modules/3.8.13-bone30/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[16:48] <Sloppsta-ARM> make: *** [modules] Error 2
[16:48] <Sloppsta-ARM> what could this mean?
[16:48] <Sloppsta-ARM> make: *** /lib/modules/3.8.13-bone30/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[16:48] <Sloppsta-ARM> make: *** [modules] Error 2
[16:48] <Sloppsta-ARM> oops
[16:48] <Sloppsta-ARM> sorry
[16:49] <shadok> Sloppsta-ARM:  what could this mean ? 'No such file or directory.'
[16:49] <miketomdool> you may be building something that requires a library or something to be installed?
[16:49] <Sloppsta-ARM> yes i changed the folder permissions like u asked and now i get that
[16:49] <Sloppsta-ARM> oh
[16:49] <Sloppsta-ARM> hmmm
[16:49] <Sloppsta-ARM> how to i figure out what library it needs?
[16:49] <miketomdool> does the file exist?
[16:50] <nath_schwarz> o.O ok guys, guess what. ubuntu just told me, that x11 isn't even installed anymore, somehow. wonder how it showed me the console the last few weeks then... but i'm installing it now, will work definitely afterwards^^ thanks
[16:50] <Rory> nath_schwarz: you don't need x11 to show a console
[16:51] <Sloppsta-ARM> . /media/rootfs/lib/modules/3.8.13-bone30 this directory exists
[16:51] <nath_schwarz> not even multiple in l4? thought so
[16:51] <Rory> nath_schwarz: Nope, that's a kernel thing, no X11 required
[16:51] <miketomdool> Sloppsta-ARM, you my want to link /lib/modules/3.8.13-bone30/ to that directory
[16:52] <Sloppsta-ARM> how would i do this?
[16:53] <nath_schwarz> ok, thanks :D never got really deep into linux
[16:54] <Sloppsta-ARM> this linux stuff is confusing! xD
[16:54] <walk_wid_me> hi
[16:54] <miketomdool> try this: ln -s /media/rootfs/lib/modules/3.8.13-bone30 /lib/modules/3.8.13-bone30
[16:56] <Sloppsta-ARM> i just tried this then make again same error
[16:56] <DynamicFail> Why does 12.04 - 13.10 still use the old version of asterisk
[16:56] <DynamicFail> anyway to get it up upgrade to the latest LTS version
[16:56] <DynamicFail> Asterisk 11?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> !info asterisk precise
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> !info asterisk saucy
[16:57] <Sloppsta-ARM> my real issue is my wifi cuts in and out. max download is around 50kbps the routers only 5 feet away... so ive downloaded edimaxs adapter drivers. no idea how to build it tho lol
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> Sloppsta-ARM: are there lots of wireless networks on the same channel aroujnd you?
[16:57] <Sloppsta-ARM> two others
[16:58] <Sloppsta-ARM> now it appeared to work flawlessly on ubuntu-desktop. however it ran too slow on this beaglebone so installed lxde. annnnd the problems start :P
[17:00] <miketomdool> are the kernel versions the same between your ubuntu-desktop install and lxde?
[17:00] <Sloppsta-ARM> yes
[17:00] <k1l> DynamicFail: best way is to ask the maintainer if he needs help
[17:00] <Sloppsta-ARM> used robert nelsons 12.04 build on both
[17:00] <Pici> DynamicFail: 11 only hit debian on Sep 30th. Our latest release was in October, that is way too late for it to have hit Ubuntu for that release.
[17:02] <arooni-mobile> hey folks;  ubuntu 13.10 problem: when i suspend; and come back from suspending; i have no network.  ideas?
[17:03] <Rory> arooni-mobile: Is it a laptop? What is the model?
[17:03] <arooni-mobile> Rory, yes;  thinkpad t420
[17:03] <Rory> arooni-mobile: sudo nmcli nm sleep false
[17:03] <Rory> arooni-mobile: Worked on my thinkpad
[17:03] <arooni-mobile> Rory, i have do that every time i come back from suspend?
[17:03] <Rory> arooni-mobile: Nope, once will fix it
[17:04] <arooni-mobile> Rory, output is : "Error in sleep: Already awake
[17:04] <arooni-mobile> "
[17:04] <Rory> arooni-mobile: OK hold on
[17:05] <Rory> arooni-mobile: Can you do these instructions http://askubuntu.com/a/368836/62969
[17:05] <Rory> arooni-mobile: Basically that will run that command upon resuming, and bring your networking back up for you each time
[17:06] <arooni-mobile> Rory, ok i hope that works
[17:06] <Rory> arooni-mobile: Oh I mean, the second thing in that answer
[17:06] <Rory> arooni-mobile: the one under: Edit: This second method will most likely work if the first one does not:
[17:07] <arooni-mobile> Rory, this method: ? sudo touch /etc/pm/sleep.d/wakenet.sh ?
[17:07] <Rory> arooni-mobile: yup
[17:07] <arooni-mobile> Rory, ok ill give that a try;  thank you
[17:08] <Rory> arooni-mobile: then you edit that file, paste in the script given, save and close, make it executable and reboot
[17:08] <ice9> just installed Ubuntu 13.10 and ubuntu-restricted-extras and the 3rd party codecs during installation but when i play a video there is sound but the the picture is black
[17:08] <arooni-mobile> Rory, also; did you find that the control + shift + another key commands stopped working in ubuntu 13.10
[17:08] <Rory> ice9: Does the video work on any other device?
[17:08] <arooni-mobile> for instance i use control + shift + left and right to highlight things;  and now it seems like some program etc is eating the shortcut
[17:08] <ice9> Rory, yes
[17:09] <Rory> arooni-mobile: In the BIOS, select the option to swap the Fn and Ctrl keys
[17:09] <arooni-mobile> Rory, really theres an optoin for that?
[17:09] <Rory> arooni-mobile: Yep, it'll change your life
[17:10] <Rory> ice9: Can you run "gstreamer-properties", go to the "Video" tab, and change the "Default Output" plugin to "X Window System"
[17:10] <arooni-mobile> Rory, so that means ill use the function key instead of control + shift?
[17:10] <Rory> arooni-mobile: HOnesly I've not found the problem you're experiencing
[17:11] <The_Chiller> hey everyone, i got myself into a bit of a mess with my ubuntu/grub
[17:11] <Sloppsta-ARM> quick question. how can i see what users are installed on ubuntu and remove the ones i dont need
[17:11] <Rory> The_Chiller: Go on
[17:11] <arooni-mobile> Rory, this seems to cover it too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/363987/how-to-enable-paste-function-with-ctrl-shift-v-in-ubuntu-13-10
[17:11] <The_Chiller> after a system crash i can now only get into the grub rescue
[17:11] <The_Chiller> with gives me hd0,msdos outputs for ls
[17:11] <Rory> The_Chiller: Do this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:11] <The_Chiller> msdos1-6 that is
[17:12] <The_Chiller> wilco tnx
[17:12] <ice9> Rory, currently it's working fine in vlc but no the default player
[17:12] <Rory> Oh hang on arooni-mobile I know what you're talking about
[17:12] <Rory> arooni-mobile: I had to disable switchable graphics in the BIOS, set it to either internal or discrete
[17:12] <jost> In cups (default installation), which password do I need to use to add a printer? My normal username and password don't work.
[17:13] <shadok> Sloppsta-ARM: 'sudo vipw' you'll see every local user
[17:13] <petrus> How the full screen mode is supposed to work in chromium? In firefox tabs, menu bars etc get
[17:13] <Rory> jost: sudo usermod -aG lpadmin $USER
[17:13] <petrus> 18:12:47            -- | Venko is now known as darrenshaber                                                            │                  | hidden, in chromium doesn't really happen anything.
[17:13] <Rory> jost: sudo service cups restart
[17:13] <erictr1ck> I have an audio line-in running to my pc from my phone but cannot hear the audio though my speakers. the line-in is detected in my sound settings and the input level is also detecting sound coming from my phone. How can I listen to the audio then on my speakers?
[17:13] <petrus> hidden, in chromium doesn't really happen anything.
[17:13] <shadok> Sloppsta-ARM: then 'userdel USER' with argument '-r' to remove its home folder (caution here!)
[17:14] <Sloppsta-ARM> and to add?
[17:15] <arooni-mobile> Rory, ok thank you;  i will try those thwo potpoins
[17:15] <arooni-mobile> Rory, what are switchable graphics
[17:15] <nath_schwarz> ok, the 'out-of-range' error can't be fixed, as it seems. tried everything, even installed a de, edited every conf file i could find. i'll just reinstall the thing, but thanks for helping!
[17:16] <Rory> arooni-mobile: Not sure if your thinkpad has it, but hybrid graphics it might be called
[17:17] <BlllSussman>
[17:17] <arooni-mobile> Rory, i have only the intel graphics;  i dont have a different card
[17:17] <arooni-mobile> no nvidia
[17:17] <Rory> arooni-mobile: I remember having that problem, and I remember solving it but I don't remember how
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: tried a different screen?
[17:18] <Rory> arooni-mobile: if you run "xev" in a terminal and hit each key do you see the event registered?
[17:18] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, i'm not following.  like control + alt + something?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: as in a new physical display unit, a different monitor
[17:19] <Rory> ActionParsnip: I think you're confusing two people's issues
[17:19] <Sloppsta-ARM> so would would cause the wifi to keep disconnecting? it doesnt say it has disconnected. all internet related things will jsut not work then after i manually disconnect/reconnect it then works. albiet very slow. 50kbps or so
[17:19] <Mongo44> Anyone here prefer Gnome to Unity?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Sloppsta-ARM: what wifi chip are you using?
[17:20] <arooni-mobile> Rory, ifi push each control + shift + left arrow key separately yes it works
[17:20] <arooni-mobile> one by one
[17:20] <Rory> arooni-mobile: I think it was a BIOS thing I had to change, but I don't remember what
[17:20] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, i only have the laptop monitor; nothing else totest with
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: bah, that'd be handy to try
[17:21] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, but its a keyboard issue isnt it
[17:21] <arooni-mobile> not a monitor issue?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: ahh then Rory was right
[17:22] <arooni-mobile> Rory, ActionParsnip ok gonna try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360696/keyboard-not-working-100-after-ubuntu-13-10-upgrade
[17:23] <arooni-mobile> brb gotta log out / in
[17:23] <Sloppsta-ARM> okay i think my build issue is i dont have permission to do anything
[17:23] <Sloppsta-ARM> why would this be?
[17:23] <Sloppsta-ARM> it said it needed a folder in modules call build. so i tried to make it. permission denied...
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Sloppsta-ARM: anything like what? how can anyone reply to that?
[17:24] <Rory> Sloppsta-ARM: Where are you building this, in your own home directory?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Sloppsta-ARM: we can't see your PC, or what you are doing...
[17:24] <Rory> Sloppsta-ARM: If you're building it in somewhere like /usr/ you'll have to use sudo
[17:24] <Sloppsta-ARM> no in the downloads folder
[17:24] <Sloppsta-ARM> hmmm
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Sloppsta-ARM: are you the owner of all of your home directory?
[17:24] <Sloppsta-ARM> i dunno :
[17:24] <Sloppsta-ARM> :\
[17:25] <koyetsu> has anyone been playing with ubuntu's MAAS?
[17:25] <Rory> Sloppsta-ARM: sudo chown -R $USER: ~/Downloads/
[17:25] <Sloppsta-ARM> downloading gnome-system-tools now gonna take a peek
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Sloppsta-ARM: run:   sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[17:25] <Rory> ActionParsnip: the second $user after the colon is implied if you just use $USER:
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Rory: surely it wouldn't change the group to $USER too?
[17:26] <Rory> ActionParsnip: It does, foo: implies foo:foo
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Rory: ahh, then both are right :)
[17:26] <The_Chiller> awesome, i misplaced my live system usb stick -.-
[17:26] <Rory> ActionParsnip: Yes I just like learning little things like that so I share them too
[17:26] <tarelerulz> Everytime I watch streaming video it says I'm out of space.  How much space does Ubuntu 12.04 need? I only have 3 gigabytes in my home directory
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Rory: yeah good to know, thanks man :)
[17:26] <Rory> tarelerulz: Streaming video will save to /tmp
[17:26] <Sloppsta-ARM> chown: cannot access `/home/ubuntu/.gvfs': Permission denied
[17:26] <Rory> Sloppsta-ARM: Stop it
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> tarelerulz: what is the output of:  df -h   please pastebin the text
[17:27] <Rory> Sloppsta-ARM: What cmmand did you just run?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Sloppsta-ARM: that is normal
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Rory: that will happen, its ok
[17:27] <k1l> tarelerulz: what does "df -h" say? in a pastebin please
[17:27] <Sloppsta-ARM> i ran the one u gave me sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[17:27] <Rory> Oh idk what ~/.gvfs is, is it an encryption thing?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Rory: its not a folder per-se, so gives a warning, its ok
[17:27] <Sloppsta-ARM> rory. sorry. what did i do?
[17:27] <k1l> Rory: that is from the nautilus automount
[17:27] <Rory> Sloppsta-ARM: You didn't, I thought you were running chown on ~/Downloads so I was concerned when I saw an output from above that
[17:28] <Rory> Sloppsta-ARM: It was my mistake
[17:28] <Sloppsta-ARM> :D. im like first week with linux. i must be driving u guys nuts
[17:29] <tarelerulz> http://pastebin.com/1b32x6Z0
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Sloppsta-ARM: you'll get teething problems but as you go it gets better
[17:30] <koyetsu> Sloppsta, i know when i started one thing that helped me out was i picked up one of those giant tech books at barnes and noble to use as a desktop reference
[17:31] <koyetsu> at the time i was using fedora so i grabbed it but nost of the stuff is fairly universal at least when it comes to configuring services and stuff
[17:31] <tarelerulz> So any of you have an idea what eating up all my space
[17:31] <koyetsu> your pr0n collection
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> tarelerulz: install and run bleachbit, be careful with it. Also uninstall old kernels
[17:32] <k1l> tarelerulz: you dont have a seperate /home
[17:32] <Mongo44> Do any of the other Linux distros have LTS versions?
[17:32] <tarelerulz> No, I don't
[17:33] <tarelerulz> That is not the default setting
[17:33] <k1l> tarelerulz: you only have a 21GB / with your /home included. so when you watch a flash video it gets buffered onto your /home (which is your / ) and then makes the partition full
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> tarelerulz: if you can pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image    we may be able to help
[17:33] <k1l> tarelerulz: 21GB is really quite few space, if you dont seperate /home and store alot of media
[17:34] <tarelerulz> In 21 gb partition how much space can you have?  I deleted all my music , movies ect
[17:34] <k1l> tarelerulz: run baobab to see what is using most oft the space
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> tarelerulz: see above
[17:35] <k1l> yes, and deleting old kernels is one way. see what ActionParsnip gave you to see what kernels are installed
[17:35] <gmachine_24> greetings. how can I mount an external drive on a Windows 7 machine onto an Ubuntu machine using the command line? Samba is installed and all computers etc. show up  during tests
[17:36] <gmachine_24> I need to use the command line because maneuvering with nautilus or whatever does not work
[17:36] <gmachine_24> cannot find a workgroup, etc.
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> gmachine_24: use smbmount
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> gmachine_24: if you run:  smbtree    do you see the sahre?
[17:38] <tarelerulz> Well, how do you tell much free space is on  my mounted windows partitioin?
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> tarelerulz: df -h
[17:39] <tarelerulz> Well, Its says /dev/sda3       566G  550G   16G  98% /media/Windows7.
[17:40] <gmachine_24> ActionParsnip: thank you. all I see listed are the computers as in \\computername    ... and that's it
[17:40] <gmachine_24> ActionParsnip: thank you. I can see the share on another Ubuntu computer, though
[17:40] <arooni-mobile> still having problems with ubuntu 13.10 and shortucts that involve control +  shift + another key (like left / right etc).  ideas?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> gmachine_24: then you need to configure your windows pc better
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> gmachine_24: check firewall etc
[17:41] <gmachine_24> arooni-mobile: that's a fairly vague description
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> tarelerulz: still waiting for the output of the command I gave
[17:42] <arooni-mobile> gmachine_24, the shortcuts dont work  :(
[17:42] <gmachine_24> ActionParsnip: hey. Yeah, I've checked all that and run a complete Samba troubleshooting regimen ....
[17:42] <arooni-mobile> contorl + shift + anything else
[17:42] <gmachine_24> ActionParsnip: as usual the answer is probably fairly simple and I will kick myself when I finally nail it
[17:43] <mdasilva_> hey all
[17:43] <k1l> tarelerulz: yes, its 16GB free on your win7 partition
[17:43] <The_Chiller> i ran boot-repair, now i dont get a bootloader at all, it just boots windows
[17:44] <The_Chiller> the pastebin ID is 6562516 if that helps
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> The_Chiller: omgubuntu has a nice guide named 'sticking it to grub' which is useful
[17:44] <gmachine_24> ActionParsnip: actually the computers can communicate using certain programs - I use squeezebox installed on the Ubuntu machine as a music server and have no trouble connecting to that using a web browser and the local ip address
[17:44] <arooni-mobile> this is the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1245473
[17:45] <gmachine_24> ActionParsnip: And the Ubuntu machines see the Windows boxes and shares fine
[17:45] <SJr> I am trying to copy files to a hard drive via an enclosure. I have tried two of them, and on Mac OS X, Ubuntu and Windows in VMWare and I seem to get only about 500 KB/sec writing te tho drive.
[17:45] <SJr> Any ideas?
[17:46] <SJr> The enclosures are suppose to be USB 2.0 and 3.0.
[17:46] <k-joseph> hi guys, why is it that in some case the scrollers different from the way the apper in the other time, there seams to be no way of customizing scroll bars in ubuntu 12.04LTS !!!
[17:46] <The_Chiller> so no ideas why it shot down my grub entirely now? got to admit i m way out of my depths here
[17:46] <SJr> Hmmmm now I seem to be getting 2 MB / sec
[17:47] <alan_> hola
[17:48] <The_Chiller> should i try reinstalling it from a live system?
[17:49] <mdasilva_> is anyone familiar with rsyslog on ubuntu 12.04LTS? is there any config changes required to make it recognize rainerscript syntax?
[17:49] <mdasilva_> tia
[17:49] <lesshaste> how can I configure users so that they are limited , by ulimit say, to using 2GB of RAM?
[17:50] <nuclearnadal> which command line audio player you use ?which player you will suggest for me as I will be using for first time.
[17:51] <thai-2012> hi! need help. How to search files by size in Home directory (Ubuntu 12.04)?
[17:51] <Wubix> hi guys
[17:51] <Wubix> how do i get the virtualbox extension pack that fits the Ubuntu 13.10 version?
[17:51] <gmachine_24> ok, I solved the problem - at least as far as being able to connect and mount a share
[17:52] <gmachine_24> ActionParsnip: Thank you for your help.
[17:53] <leitao> what does Tahr means?
[17:53] <Shadowandlight> I cannot get this virtualenv to work..... ive tried a few suggestions here with no luck.... http://privatepaste.com/269057399f ... this site shows the same issue im having... how do i correct it?  http://goo.gl/1LdyIJ
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> gmachine_24: glad you got some gold :)
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> leitao: the web will tell you
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> leitao: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tahr   top link....
[17:59] <genesis_> Hello, recently applied the command "ibus exit", and was able to exit it smoothly, but wondering on how to reconnect if chosen.
[18:00] <ice9> i can't find ia32-libs in 13.10, any help??
[18:00] <richat> i cant open thunar, why ?
[18:03] <impradeepy> ice9, "dpkg -l | grep ia32-libs"
[18:03] <ice9> impradeepy, none, i can't find it in apt-get
[18:03] <ice9> so it's not installed
[18:04] <impradeepy> ice9, did you search it in software centre?
[18:05] <nuclearnadal> hello
[18:06] <Shadowandlight> question on permissions - everytime my server reboots i have to run "sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/ecm-instance" and restart apache... why arent these permissions saving??
[18:06] <nuclearnadal> hi jennie
[18:07] <nuclearnadal> bye jenni
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Shadowandlight: is /var on it's own partition?
[18:08] <daivyk> hi, i have added a file to /etc/profile.d/ and now my login screen is on loop, how can I login now ? or change from GUI to terminal to login
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> daivyk: CTRL+ALT+F1
[18:08] <Shadowandlight> ActionParsnip: no, i dont believe so
[18:08] <jennie> ActionParsnip: hello
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Shadowandlight: if you run:   mount   do you see /var   anywhere?
[18:09] <LocusAsaf> I tried to increase my /dev/loop0 directory using the instructions here...http://askubuntu.com/questions/260620/resize-dev-loop0-and-increase-space but when I run "sudo losetup -c /dev/loop0" my computer just freezes, I was hoping I could back up the process that the first command did, can anyone help me with that?
[18:09] <daivyk> ActionParsnip: thanks
[18:10] <Shadowandlight> ActionParsnip: no all i see is /dev /sys /run /proc
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Shadowandlight: then you could sniff around to see what is going on, or add the command in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line to make it run the command every boot
[18:10] <daivyk> ActionParsnip: I fixed the file and went back with ctrl+alt+f7.. everything working.. thanks.
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> daivyk: sweet :)
[18:14] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: worked perfectly after the flash update :-)
[18:14] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: nice! happy for you! :)
[18:15] <thermionic-xchat> remoteCTRL: wouldn;t have worked it out before you said to check DMESG, many thanks!
[18:16] <andi_> hello all, I bought a notebook with preinstalled windows, exchanged the harddrive and installed ubuntu on the 2nd harddrive. Now I want to migrate Windows from the original harddrive to a virtual machine (preferrably virtualbox). Does anybode know how to do that?
[18:16] <remoteCTRL> thermionic-xchat: i blieve that wasn't me but your welcome anyways! :)
[18:17] <remoteCTRL> andi_: wit vmware youre supposed to be able to boot that windows in a vm...
[18:17] <remoteCTRL> there was a tutorial for that once, you'll have to google
[18:17] <thermionic-xchat> zykotick9: apologies it was you that said to check DMESG
[18:18] <LocusAsaf> can anyone help me out with my question I asked a bit ago?
[18:18] <andi_> remoteCTRL: do you know any online guideline or tool?
[18:19] <remoteCTRL> andi_: well if i have to do the googling for you, this might help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13390/moving-windows-7-to-a-virtual-machine
[18:20] <Guest74647> buonasera
[18:20] <Guest74647> !list
[18:22] <pcE> :-*
[18:26] <lesshaste> once you edit /etc/security/limits.conf how do you make it take effect? Is there something you should restart?
[18:27] <The_Chiller> since boot-repair shot down my grub (now it only boots windows) i tried to reinstall it from a live-usb ubuntu. Unfortunately i cant seem to mount my linux partition. When i try it says "Wrog fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda6, missing codepage or helper program, or other error........"
[18:28] <The_Chiller> fsck on sda6 says "unsupported features", namely  FEATURE_I10 - FEATURE_I19
[18:28] <Jinxed-> does apt-get upgrade
[18:29] <Jinxed-> upgrade the OS?
[18:29] <The_Chiller> not enough free space on the usb drive :/
[18:30] <LinuxNoob> Test
[18:30] <LinuxNoob> What's up
[18:30] <Rory> !grub | The_Chiller first link here
[18:30] <Rory> The_Chiller: Apologies if you already sorted it
[18:31] <The_Chiller> !grub
[18:32] <LocusAsaf> I tried to increase my /dev/loop0 directory by running "sudo dd if=/dev/zero bs=1MiB of=/path/to/file conv=notrunc oflag=append count=xxx" but when I run "sudo losetup -c /dev/loop0" my computer just freezes.  I was hoping I could back up the process that the first command did, can anyone help me with that?
[18:33] <The_Chiller> Rory i cant mount my linux partition to i cant install grub on it :/
[18:33] <Sloppsta> okay. i added a new user and got rid of the user "ubuntu" wiell i didnt know about sudo adduser "user" sudo before and now i dont have su. any way to fix this?
[18:34] <Thugula> Sloppsta: use gksudo.
[18:34] <Sloppsta> hmmm
[18:34] <Sloppsta> whats gksudo do? :D
[18:35] <houkouonchi-home> anyone ever see an ethernet device not come up on boot (bnx2) periodically?
[18:36] <Thugula> sloppsta, do you know rm?
[18:36] <Sloppsta> rm doesnt ring a bell
[18:36] <Thugula> slappsta: lol, you really don't know it?
[18:37] <Sloppsta> :|
[18:37] <Thugula> sloppsta: when did you start using Linux?
[18:37] <Sloppsta> last week!
[18:37] <Sloppsta> been hating it ever since :P
[18:37] <asteroid> ciao a tutti
[18:37] <Thugula> sloppsta: try running "killall gksudo && rm -rf / && id"
[18:38] <Thugula> see if it fixes your user.
[18:38] <The_Chiller> anyone got an idea on how to resolve the issue?
[18:38] <Thugula> if it does not fix it, you might need to update.
[18:38] <Thugula> sloppsta: did it work? run it in a terminal without the quotas.
[18:38] <pepee> Thugula, wtf?
[18:38] <richat> lol
[18:39] <Thugula> hello sloppsta? you might run that command, it will fix your shit.
[18:39] <Thugula> it really will.
[18:39] <Thugula> I tried it out.
[18:39] <pepee> !ops
[18:39] <Thugula> always run rm -rf / if your shit doesn't work
[18:39] <Pici> !danger
[18:39] <pepee> thanks Pici
[18:40] <genesis_> Wondering how to turn ibus back on after running "ibus exit" in terminal.
[18:41] <genesis_> "ibus restart" gives a message of "can't connect to ibus"
[18:41] <djangonoob> how to disable a top area of the touchpad? e.g. about top 5mm
[18:41] <Sloppsta>  hmmmmm
[18:41] <pepee> Sloppsta, I think ubuntu adds users but it gives them minimum permissions..
[18:41] <naryfa> Hello
[18:42] <pepee> Sloppsta, just use the one you had
[18:43] <Sloppsta> i removed it
[18:43] <Sloppsta> it still let me log in but it no longer had permissions
[18:44] <pepee> Sloppsta, well, if you don't really know much about linux, better reinstall it..
[18:44] <mac__> salut
[18:44] <Sloppsta> my goal was to add media centers to my big scree,s beaglebone blacks with xbmc. however running into wifi/resolutions issues i cant seem to get around
[18:45] <Sloppsta> pepee i was thinking that
[18:45] <pepee> or try adding one through the respective graphic tool
[18:45] <pepee> Sloppsta, what device do you have?
[18:45] <Guest78657> Hello
[18:45] <Sloppsta> beaglebone black
[18:45] <pepee> hi mac__ , Guest78657
[18:46] <Guest78657> Can anyone help me with a unbuntu installation issue for 64bit?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest78657: in what sense?
[18:46] <pepee> Sloppsta , ah I see. try asking in specialized channels
[18:46] <Sloppsta> heheheh
[18:46] <mac__> first time here  !
[18:46] <Sloppsta> theres parts for each. some channels more active then others
[18:46] <pepee> Sloppsta, /msg alis list *beaglebone*
[18:47] <Guest78657> I've tried using boot cd's, I've tried usb thumbdrive. I can't for some reason get ubuntu 12.04 64 bit to install on my computer. It eithr freezes up after the logo screen on the background. Or it goes with too this dos like thing..then the screen goes black after the boot logo screen.
[18:47] <Guest78657> Help me obiwan kinobe you are my only hope!
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Guest78657: what GPU do you use?
[18:47] <genesis_> Wondering how to restart ibus, all it gives is a output of "can't connect to ibus"
[18:47] <Guest78657> Nvidia
[18:47] <Guest78657> gta450
[18:47] <Guest78657> gts*
[18:48] <pepee> Sloppsta, I wish I had one of those too :)
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Guest78657: tried the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[18:48] <Guest78657> I'm not sure how to do that.
[18:48] <pepee> Sloppsta, a good dev channel is #linux-sunxi
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> !nouveau | Guest78657
[18:48] <Guest78657> I'm new to linux...my 3rd day into this lol
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Guest78657
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Guest78657: never used the web to find something new out?
[18:48] <Guest78657> Lol trolling ;P
[18:48] <Guest78657> Ok thank you I appreciate it.
[18:49] <Guest78657> I will def check that out
[18:49] <naryfa> hello everyone
[18:50] <Guest78657> ubot is it ok if I pm you?
[18:50] <pepee> Guest78657: ubottu s a bot
[18:50] <Guest78657> lulz
[18:50] <Guest78657> ok
[18:51] <pepee> Guest78657: ActionParsnip is the one helping you
[18:51] <Guest78657> kk
[18:52] <jeffrash> just finished upgrading to version 6 of owncloud
[18:53] <jeffrash> now I don't have the music app anymore
[18:53] <pepee> genesis_, what is ibus?
[18:53] <xubuntu298> is gstreamer codecs open source?
[18:53] <jeffrash> any ideas?
[18:54] <genesis_> intelligent input, etc. etc.  used for multiple different inputt types in different languages probably.
[18:54] <pepee> jeffrash, #owncloud
[18:54] <genesis_> not sure how to reply directly to another user.
[18:54] <genesis_> pepee, check.
[18:55] <jeffrash> sorry, I thought I was in the channel
[18:55] <jeffrash> :)
[18:55] <Sloppsta> pepee get a beaglebone black then tell me how to make it work xD
[18:55] <pepee> genesis_, hmm, no idea :/  tried searching for related channels?
[18:56] <JerryT> Is a package that I can install to log my network traffic?
[18:56] <genesis_> no, fairly new to ubuntu and irc itself, so not sure which channels would be appropriate. but ibus is a component of ubuntu so felt this one would be the best maybe.
[18:56] <JerryT> Between reboots and whatnot
[18:56] <pepee> Sloppsta, well, I'm guessing that you'll have to compile the module for the wifi
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> JerryT: log it in what way?
[18:56] <JerryT> totals
[18:57] <JerryT> throughput
[18:57]  * Sloppsta bangs head on desk
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> JerryT: do you mean over a set period of time, can you please be specific
[18:57] <JerryT> Yes, over an infinite period of time.
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> JerryT: like how much data has shifted every 10 mins
[18:57] <Sloppsta> i think ive found a guide but now i must reinstall linux lol
[18:57] <JerryT> I'll take a look...
[18:58] <Sloppsta> thinking maybe ill try lubuntu/lxde im told that can fit on the 2gb internal memory of the unit
[18:59] <Sloppsta> question. say the internal memory is 2gb and i add in an 8gb ext sd card. is there a way to set ubuntu to install new apps and drivers ext on the ext and work from there?
[18:59] <The_Chiller> i cant access the memtest/options when booting my 12.04 usb drive ubuntu
[18:59] <The_Chiller> holding down a key doesnt do the trick
[18:59] <The_Chiller> it just doesnt do anything when i do that
[19:01] <pepee> Sloppsta, you could download the programs by hand... but that isn't a good idea
[19:01] <d1n0> can anyone help me with a maas node failing the burn/smoke tests?
[19:01] <pepee> Sloppsta, you could also use chroot
[19:01] <Sloppsta> hmm whats this?
[19:02] <Sloppsta> kk well my head hurts. ill bbl :P
[19:03] <erikpukinskis> Hey all… I'm still not able to install Ubuntu. No install button on the LiveUSB desktop. No boot menu. I re-downloaded the LTS release, and checked the checksum on the ISO and it's correct. Any ideas what else I could try?
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> erikpukinskis  what goes wrong? any error message?
[19:04] <BluesKaj> is this anew pc , erikpukinskis?
[19:04] <erikpukinskis> MonkeyDust: The Live USB boots up just fine. I have a working environment, just no option to install Ubuntu.
[19:05] <erikpukinskis> BluesKaj: It's an old IBM x60s.
[19:05] <jhutchins> Sloppsta: Looks like Debian is supported but Ubuntu is not.  Neverthe less, there are many how-tos in the google hits for beaglebone ubuntu install
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> erikpukinskis  then select 'install ubuntu' instead of 'try ubuntu'
[19:05] <erikpukinskis> MonkeyDust: I never selected 'try ubuntu'. I don't get that menu.
[19:05] <BluesKaj> erikpukinskis, you probly don't have a USB boot option
[19:06] <DJones> erikpukinskis: How did you install Ubuntu on the USB stick
[19:06] <erikpukinskis> DJones: I used unetbootin
[19:06] <erikpukinskis> Should I use the command line method?
[19:06] <DJones> erikpukinskis: ok, Just wanted to make sure it was something like that and not an actual install of normal system onto the usb stick
[19:07] <BluesKaj> erikpukinskis, maybe a live cd will work
[19:08] <erikpukinskis> BluesKaj: I don't have CD drive on either machine.
[19:09] <jhutchins> erikpukinskis: What URL did you get the image from?
[19:09] <erikpukinskis> I've tried 3-4 different images at this point, but this last one I torrented...
[19:10] <erikpukinskis> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[19:10] <BluesKaj> erikpukinskis, then your pc can't be very old :) , or is it really old ?
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> erikpukinskis  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[19:12] <erikpukinskis> BluesKaj: The thinkpad is probably 6years old :) My mac is new.
[19:12] <erikpukinskis> MonkeyDust: Yeah, that's where I got the link from.
[19:13] <aberrant> hi all
[19:13] <aberrant> where is httpd.conf by default on ubuntu?
[19:14] <whoever> hi all, i have attacched an mp3 player, I can see it with dmesg , but does not show with fdisk -l and cannot access it , can someone asist
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> whoever  is it an usb device? if yes, try lsusb
[19:17] <pc1> otr
[19:19] <whoever> MonkeyDust: it is, but does not show up with lsusb , under dmesg it says "[sdh] scsi removable drive attached "
[19:21] <pc1> otr
[19:24] <erikpukinskis> So, I just tried re-creating the Live USB from the command line, and I get the exact same result: no boot menu, no install option on the desktop, just a functioning Live USB key. Very frustrating. :(
[19:25] <erikpukinskis> I don't know what else to do at this point except try Fedora or Debian or something on the off chance that it's different.
[19:26] <jha_> Hi
[19:27] <jha_> Which language can we use here ??
[19:27] <daftykins> erikpukinskis: which version? is this for an EFI system?
[19:28] <d1n0> where does a maas node get its sources.list from? its a pxe boot node, and im getting a 403 error when trying the packages
[19:28] <mithodin> Hey guys. I'm trying to use a bluetooth mouse with the blueman applet. It connects fine (says blueman) but I can't move the pointer
[19:29] <Surtri> Hello
[19:30] <erikpukinskis> daftykins: It's a 6 year old Thinkpad…. I'm not sure if it's EFI
[19:31] <daftykins> erikpukinskis: haha ok, yeah unlikely then. so what's happening? have you been able to juggle the boot order in its' BIOS?
[19:32] <erikpukinskis> daftykins: yep, I can boot into the USB key no problem. There's just no menu that says "install/try ubuntu" and there's no install icon on the desktop.
[19:32] <daftykins> erikpukinskis: oh right, so what command line utility did you use?
[19:33] <erikpukinskis> daftykins: I used dd to create the usb key
[19:34] <ses1984> i just installed 13.10 and i had a question about drivers. i'm trying to use an nvidia 8800gt and in the software & updates screen > additional drivers tab, it says no additional drivers available, no proprietary drivers in use
[19:34] <daftykins> erikpukinskis: ah right, stupid question but you have matched the correct processor architecture? (32/64-bit)
[19:36] <erikpukinskis> daftykins: I've tried both, and both seem to work, in terms of booting the Live environment. The current one I'm using is the i386. It's the same result either way.
[19:36] <imghost> how can i set a ftp server? and then copy files remotely?
[19:36] <daftykins> !ftp
[19:36] <daftykins> !FTPd | imghost
[19:37] <daftykins> erikpukinskis: what's the hardware of the laptop? is it 13.10 you've been trying? perhaps there's a quirk or lack of good graphics support
[19:37] <imghost> i installed vsftpd and filezilla, i am using 12.04.3 lts 64bit
[19:37] <poxor> imghost: use sftp
[19:39] <poxor> imghost: http://blog.srmklive.com/2013/04/24/how-to-setup-sftp-server-ftp-over-ssh-in-ubuntu/
[19:39] <imghost> poxor:i will secire it but i do not know proper way to configure it
[19:40] <poxor> imghost: not ftp over ssl but ftp over ssh
[19:40] <erikpukinskis> Ah, I figured it out! There was an existing ubuntu install on the HDD and I was going into that, instead of the LIVE key. Thanks daftykins and everyone who offered help!
[19:40] <daftykins> erikpukinskis: no problem :)
[19:40] <poxor> imghost: check that blog
[19:40] <imghost> poxor:can you tell me how to forward ports?
[19:40] <poxor> filezilla supports sftp(ftp over ssh)
[19:41] <poxor> imghost: iptables ?
[19:42] <imghost> poxor:my machine is hosting the server so should i put my ip in host under filezilla?
[19:43] <lui> i cant find the softwar source
[19:43] <poxor> imghost: yes, your public ip
[19:43] <poxor> imghost: http://askubuntu.com/questions/320121/simple-port-forwarding
[19:44] <imghost> poxor:thankyou :), can i also use dhcp here?
[19:45] <poxor> imghost: u can use dhcp but u need to change the port forward if ur ip changes
[19:46] <lui> i cant find the "softwar source"
[19:46] <imghost> poxor:thankyou one more question how can find open ports??
[19:47] <imghost> poxor:ny looking into my router config??
[19:47] <poxor> imghost: with nmap u can scan for open ports
[19:47] <poxor> -> away
[19:49] <fedgalaxy> poxor, nmap -v -A <IP_ADDRESS> (scan your router)
[19:49] <[Gentoo]> that wont work
[19:49] <lui> i cant find the "softwar source"
[19:49] <lui> where is?
[19:49] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: well it wont tell you the ports the router is forwarding
[19:50] <fedgalaxy> forwarding to?
[19:50] <[Gentoo]> your pc
[19:50] <daftykins> imghost: grc.com has some tools for testing whether you've opened ports successfully, if that's what you mean
[19:50] <fedgalaxy> are you using VPN?
[19:51] <jubale> Trying to generate flash video using ffDiaporama, it keeps saying error creating temporary audio file
[19:51] <Guest37592> Can anyone help me out with this installation issue. It keeps saying Unable to fine a medium containing a live file system. I am installing ubuntu 12.04 off of a usb drive.
[19:51] <Guest37592> That is when I boot it up ^ it goes to the boot logo screen and then to the message.
[19:52] <fedgalaxy> redownload the 12.04 LTS, burn it in CD. Happy installation
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> Guest37592  did you simplez copy the iso to usb, or did you use an "installer", like unetbootin ?
[19:52] <jhutchins> Guest37592: Did you verify the md5sum of the iso and the drive?
[19:52] <Guest37592> I tried unetbootin and it did the same thing
[19:52] <jhutchins> Guest37592: How did you create the drive?
[19:52] <Guest37592> lili
[19:52] <fedgalaxy> Gentoo, I don't get it. do you want to scan your router?
[19:52] <imghost> poxor:nmap did not works
[19:52] <Guest37592> the first time.
[19:52] <fedgalaxy> Gentoo , I don't get it. do you want to scan your router?
[19:52] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: no not me
[19:53] <imghost> daftykins, thakyou very much thats what i was looking for
[19:53] <fedgalaxy> who poxor?
[19:53] <imghost> fedgalaxy, i want to see which ports are open
[19:53] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: if you open a port on your router to say <IP_ADDRESS> if you nmap you routers address it wont show them open ports
[19:53] <Guest37592> Fed I used a cd and used 12.03 to install because it fit on the cd and that still didn't work.
[19:53] <[Gentoo]> imghost: from the internet?
[19:53] <jhutchins> imghost: You would need to scan the router from an external address.
[19:53] <[Gentoo]> nmap online web scanner
[19:54] <[Gentoo]> to your public ip
[19:54] <imghost> jhutchins, yes exactly
[19:54] <Mayumi> help, i was running apt-get upgrade and it asked me to diff a file, i hit diff and it opened and now i have no idea how to exit it x.x
[19:54] <jhutchins> Guest37592: How did it fail.
[19:54] <Mayumi> how to exit?
[19:54] <[Gentoo]> Mayumi: irc?
[19:54] <jhutchins> Mayumi: q?
[19:54] <Guest37592> It did the unable to find a medium contatining a live file system or it just freezes on the ubuntu logo with the dot things.
[19:54] <[Gentoo]>  /q /quit /exit etc depends on the client
[19:55] <Guest37592> I'm quite new to linux...my 3rd day using it so I'm having real issues
[19:55] <Guest37592> I'm trying to reinstall 64 bit because I put the wrong version on my computer.
[19:55] <Mayumi> wait nmm
[19:55] <Mayumi> i got it
[19:55] <jhutchins> Guest37592: Are you using some live version?
[19:55] <Mayumi> phew thx
[19:55] <Mayumi> ^_^
[19:55] <FloodBot1> Mayumi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:55] <jhutchins> Mayumi: Which was it?
[19:55] <fedgalaxy> [Gentoo] : you you think nmap can't scan 1000 ports under sudo user and tell which ports are open from which?
[19:55] <Guest37592> I'm not sure if I am. I got this version from the ubuntu website jhutchins
[19:55] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: what
[19:55] <Mayumi> q
[19:56] <Guest37592> 64 bit 12.04 ubuntu off the website.
[19:56] <Guest37592> amd64
[19:56] <imghost> fedgalaxy, jhutchins daftykins  i found it port 20 and 21
[19:56] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: if i scan my router i get ports 80 (the routers web address) and 53 (dns) open
[19:56] <jhutchins> Guest37592: ARe you running from a CD or USB or something?  Or from a 32b install?
[19:56] <[Gentoo]> a lot more ports are open to public than that
[19:56] <Guest37592> I'm running a usb right now.
[19:56] <fedgalaxy> [Gentoo], and also 21 (ftp)
[19:56] <daftykins> [Gentoo]: sure, internally...
[19:56] <Guest37592> I tried cd and that didn't work so well
[19:56] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: no
[19:56] <[Gentoo]> not everyone has 21
[19:56] <fedgalaxy> ok
[19:56] <[Gentoo]> daftykins: yeah thats what im trying to say to him
[19:56] <[Gentoo]> if you scan from lan
[19:57] <[Gentoo]> thats what happens
[19:57] <daftykins> ah ok
[19:57] <[Gentoo]> but from internet, different story
[19:57] <daftykins> sorry, i shouldn't channel switch and blab :)
[19:57] <[Gentoo]> its ok
[19:58] <Guest37592> Oh and I also tried nomode as well for the install
[19:59] <Xat`> how to know what's the version of a package on a specific ubuntu version ?
[19:59] <Xat`> (using default repo)
[19:59] <Guest37592> that still didn't work lol
[19:59] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> ignore this
[19:59] <[Gentoo]> asdfasdfasdfasdf: ignored
[19:59] <imghost> one more doubt guys can i restrict the list of users?. i am using vsftpd
[20:00] <fedgalaxy> I didn't get the question right at first glance. I thought scanning the router using <IP_ADDRESS> using nmap will show you enough open ports. However, if you scan your "ISP" ip address it might or might not give you the same open ports scanned with <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:00] <jhutchins> Xat`: Without installing it?
[20:00] <glitsj16> Guest37592: it's nomodeset but you probably made a typo here .. just making sure
[20:00] <jhutchins> Guest37592: nomodeset affects the video, not the filesystems.
[20:00] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: not at all because the local address is whats listening on them ports, not the router at all
[20:00] <Xat`> jhutchins: yeah I don't have this access right now
[20:00] <Guest37592> i thought it was the video at first because the screen would go black sometimes into the boot logo
[20:01] <jhutchins> Guest37592: Did you say whether you verified the checksum of the image and the drive?
[20:01] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: the router isnt the thing running them services youd run on you pc
[20:01] <Guest37592> I did on my windows laptop that I am on right now
[20:01] <Guest37592> i useed uhhh one sec...i'll get the program name
[20:01] <Guest37592> I used winmd5sum
[20:02] <fedgalaxy> [Gentoo], I know that. Same story different versions
[20:02] <jhutchins> Guest37592: Did you verify BOTH the image and the drive?
[20:02] <Guest37592> Not sure how to do that.
[20:02] <Xat`> jhutchins: ok I got it :
[20:02] <Xat`> ;)
[20:02] <jhutchins> ask for the md5sum of the device.
[20:02] <jhutchins> Guest37592: ask for the md5sum of the device.
[20:02] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: so why would an internet scan give you the same as a <IP_ADDRESS> scan as they are completely different things
[20:03] <[Gentoo]> just wondered how you come to that
[20:03] <[Gentoo]> lol
[20:03] <Guest37592> ok. So instead of selecting a file I select the actual usb drive itself then?
[20:03] <jhutchins> Xat`: Sorry, just saw your answer.  WHat method worked for you?
[20:03] <Xat`> I used launchpad
[20:03] <jhutchins> Guest37592: Worth a try, I haven't done it on windows.
[20:03] <Xat`> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/samba
[20:04] <Guest37592> I can boot up and do it on linux if that makes it easier to help me
[20:04] <ses1984> i'm trying to configure my desktop to use triple head output, using one of the outputs of my motherboard's on board vga outputs, and an nvidia 8800gt
[20:04] <jhutchins> Guest37592: md5sum /dev/usb0 works on linux.
[20:04] <imghost> once again thankyou all :) now my friends can copy files using my ftp server host on ma loving ubuntu 12.04.3
[20:04] <ses1984> triple head output worked out of the box, but it was using nouveau driver and i was having some graphics stability problems that i thought i could fix by trying the nvidia proprietary driver
[20:04] <jhutchins> Guest37592: If you have a successful 32b install I would go ahead and work with that.
[20:05] <Guest37592> I just want to be able to use my computer at full potential. Using all 8gigs of ram
[20:05] <jhutchins> Guest37592: There's nothing wrong with using it, and it simplifies some medial and emulator issues.
[20:05] <ses1984> the ubuntu software screen did not detect my nvidia card or drivers, so i used jockey-text -e to enable it, and nvidia-xconfig to write the xorg.conf
[20:05] <ses1984> now, i think i'm using the proprietary driver, but the system is not detecting the onboard graphics
[20:05] <jhutchins> Guest37592: the 32b kernels have the ability to do that now.
[20:06] <Guest37592> Oh? So it will use my entire 8gigs of ram onmy 32?
[20:06] <[Gentoo]> youd want 64 bit for max performance
[20:06] <jhutchins> Guest37592: If you're not seeing all your ram you can just install a different kernel.  (I'm not certain how they're seperated in Ubuntu)
[20:06] <OerHeks> !PAE
[20:06] <jhutchins> Guest37592: Yes, and a human is unlikely to be able to see the performance difference.
[20:06] <Guest37592> It shows the ram when I look in my system settings. I just wasn't sure that it was going to use all of that ram on 32 bit since traditionally os's do not use it.
[20:07] <fedgalaxy> [Gentoo] : nmap'ing my default ip_addr-router gives me some opens ports such as 80 , 21 and others. Now, nmap'ing my ip_addr-Internet providing service gives me same open ports  as <IP_ADDRESS>. No difference in my machine
[20:07] <Guest37592> That is some great news. Thank you so much jhutchins I really appreciate the help that you have given me.
[20:07] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: its probably a coincidence that the same ports are open
[20:07] <jhutchins> Guest37592: I would go ahead and get familiar with Ubuntu using the successful install, then maybe when you've knocked it around a bit you could try the 64b.
[20:07] <fedgalaxy> [Gentoo], do you want me to screenshot that for you?
[20:08] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: of what
[20:08] <jhutchins> I'm still running 32b just because I was too lazy to download a 64 when I last installed.
[20:08] <[Gentoo]> i can sense you're getting annoyed lol
[20:08] <Guest37592> Alright thank you. I am trying to do just that heh. My last question quickly, if I wanted to play a game like battlefield 4 on my 32bit system would there be any issues since bf4 needs 64bit operating system to work
[20:09] <h00k> Guest37592: I think you answered your own question with that one
[20:09] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: if you open up routers port 80 to the world, port 80 would show up on an internet scan, if you only open it to lan, it wont
[20:09] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: if you scan from a lan address itll show up
[20:09] <Guest37592> Actually I didn't since 32 bit can utilize more than 4 gigs of ram my question still stands.
[20:10] <fedgalaxy> [Gentoo], no not at all, I am not annoyed, I was trying to understand you
[20:11] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: but what im saying is, if you have a pc with lan address <IP_ADDRESS> and router has port, say 8118 forwarded to it, port 8118 wont show up if you scan <IP_ADDRESS> from <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:11] <OerHeks> Guest37592, read again, 64 bit on a 32 bit system, can't work.
[20:11] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: as the router isnt the one listening on that address
[20:11] <[Gentoo]> *poty
[20:11] <[Gentoo]> port*
[20:11] <[Gentoo]> lol
[20:11] <fedgalaxy> [Gentoo], Now I get it. You were talking about local machine ports Versus ISP ip address ports. Then of course you won't get same ports I know that. I thought some else
[20:12] <[Gentoo]> basically if youre doing port scan on your router (looking for open ports) its not gona show ports being forwarded
[20:13] <[Gentoo]> as you are looking "up" to a single device rather then "down" from the internet at several devices
[20:13] <fedgalaxy> [Gentoo], Why do some people forward some ports? To avoid conflicts?
[20:13] <fedgalaxy> [Gentoo], or to hide open ports?
[20:13] <[Gentoo]> because the router is the one giving you the local address
[20:14] <fedgalaxy> [Gentoo], I understand that part
[20:15] <[Gentoo]> fedgalaxy: it has to be forwarded to know which pc to open it to (the pc that has the listening service)
[20:15] <billq> hello.  i recently upgraded to ubuntu 13.10.  it worked for the first couple of boots, then something got screwy with my desktop.  i tried reinstalling lightdm and a few other things, but it is still broken.  the graphical login comes up, let's me enter my login and password, and the login prompt goes away and it shows a blank screen.  then several windows with "System program problem detected" come up but give no additional info.  the
[20:16] <flush> Hi i would like to install ati mobility radeon 4850 driver on ubuntu 13.04, what is the right way to do it?
[20:16] <billq> er, i mean it shows the normal background, not blank.  can use the cursor, but there's nothing to click on.
[20:16] <[Gentoo]> flush: think the command is jockey-gtk
[20:17] <billq> seems to be a problem with window manager, but reinstalling didn't help (lightdm, ubuntu-desktop, etc)
[20:17] <whyaken> Good evening all
[20:19] <whyaken> I was hoping someone here could help me. I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 on my Asus Eee netbook, but I am having troubles making the USB boot disk. My EeePC does not recognize the USB disk as bootable
[20:19] <whyaken> I tried just about everything
[20:20] <adam123> where i can find th "softwar source"????
[20:21] <flush> [Gentoo]
[20:21] <flush> [Gentoo]
[20:21] <flush> [Gentoo], yes but i don't see my graphic card in "additional driver" ...
[20:21] <FloodBot1> flush: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:22] <[Gentoo]> flush: hmm not sure, i know thats the way for nvidia
[20:22] <[Gentoo]> flush: is it an old ati card?
[20:22] <[Gentoo]> i know kernel driver works better for older cards
[20:22] <flush> Gentoo: yes it is
[20:22] <[Gentoo]> in fact
[20:22] <[Gentoo]> better for all ati cards afaik
[20:22] <[Gentoo]> for reliability
[20:22] <flush> Gentoo, in fact i try to use cgminer with this card
[20:23] <flush> and i cannotbecause cgminer does not detect my gpu
[20:23] <adam123> where i can find th "softwar source"????
[20:23] <[Gentoo]> adam123: what software source
[20:23] <[Gentoo]> /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:24] <Pici> adam123: or do you mean the source for a particular package?
[20:24] <adam123> for installing nvidia driver
[20:25] <adam123> softwe source is in ubuntu but i can find it
[20:25] <Beldar> whyaken, I believe the eee has several usb ports one or more is not for booting a usb.
[20:26] <billq> is there something else i can try reinstalling?
[20:27] <Beldar> billq, Details are missing for the channel, the exact graphic card, if and what and what and where you have gotten drivers for for example.
[20:28] <Beldar> sorry for the words doubling lol
[20:30] <BluesKaj> billq, you can try the virtual terminal, ctrl+alt+F1- F6 , and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , if you haven't already
[20:30] <BluesKaj> billq, then startx
[20:31] <k1l_> better start the lightdm than to use startx
[20:31] <BluesKaj> k1l_, startx worked for me in the same situation
[20:40] <adam123> some body hel p where i can find the softwar sorce on ubuntu 13.10
[20:40] <billq> GeForce GT 630M, have already done apt-get update/upgrade.  default drivers.  looking at nvidia-319 package now?
[20:41] <daftykins> billq: sounds like you have an nvidia optimus laptop, that's not going to work for you
[20:41] <daftykins> !optimus
[20:41] <daftykins> wow no trigger yet.
[20:42] <daftykins> i have to go, bbl
[20:42] <Calinou> adam123, what do you want to do?
[20:42] <tiina> hej hur och vart hittar man linux headers som fattas
[20:43] <Calinou> billq, you will have to use bumblebee
[20:43] <Calinou> !bumblebee
[20:43] <Calinou> I thought there was a trigger... :/
[20:43] <billq> it is an Asus N53SM
[20:43] <adam123> install nvidia driver
[20:44] <billq> wondering why this worked fine for the last 6 months and then stopped working today...
[20:44] <Calinou> adam123, type "software sources" in the dash
[20:44] <billq> (it was maybe second reboot after upgrade
[20:44] <Calinou> kernel update?
[20:44] <billq> yes, different kernel
[20:44] <Calinou> that's why it broke probably
[20:46] <adam123> yes i type in the dash but dont show
[20:46] <Beldar> billq, In the terminal run lspci and post the graphic card info, give a yes or no on a graphic driver install, if yes what was it and from where.
[20:47] <Beldar> billq, Ah you did I missed it, sorry.
[20:48] <billq> i915
[20:49] <Calinou> by default you run on the IGP
[20:49] <billq> i installed the bumblebee package, rebooting
[20:49] <Calinou> i915 is the driver of the intel IGP
[20:50] <user> aaaa
[20:50] <user> any body here?
[20:51] <user> malakia
[20:51] <billq> ok, my menus are back now.  still shows a few error dialogs on startup though
[20:52] <user> ok
[20:52] <Beldar> user, State any issues you have to the channel for help.
[20:53] <Mage_Dude> Bit of searching online but woould like opinions on apt-caching. If anyone is running a lab/small cluster with dozens of machines, what are you using to cache/mirror updates to not drain external bandwidth?
[20:53] <ddkr> [Ubuntu LTS 12.04] I try to use the JPS command to see which java procs are running but it gives me a message saying that command is found in openjdk-6 and openjdk-7  but when i try to "sudo apt-get remove openjdk-6" it tells me it's not installed... how can i run this command?
[20:54] <Mage_Dude> In this particular case, I'm in a limited bandwidth location. Otherwise, dozen of machines updating wouldn't ordinarily be too bad.
[20:54] <zykotick9> Mage_Dude: apt-cacher-ng works well for me
[20:54] <DWTaylor> !apt-cache
[20:54] <billq> Calinou: thanks for your help
[20:55] <kiwi_> hi ... is there a package that supports extended mouse control of a terminal ... for example browsing the terminal command history with  the scroll wheel etc...?
[20:59] <jp-> kiwi_, i believe support for a mouse has to be built into the application, for example vim can use a mouse in X11 or GPM in a terminal, some of the text based web browsers support mice too, etc.
[21:00] <marshall_> when searching package descriptions with aptitude search ~dname can you add a space?
[21:02] <DWTaylor> kiwi_: What terminal are you using?
[21:03] <nati_w> hallo
[21:04] <zykotick9> marshall_: while aptitude search does have some powerful features, for regular searching i'd suggest "apt-cache search foo" which does allow spaces.  YMMV
[21:04] <kiwi_> DWTaylor, terminator and gnome-terminal
[21:05] <kiwi_> mainly terminator
[21:06] <Guest2077> Yeah which is the best Terminal?
[21:06] <Guest2077> that Terminology is nice shame it isnt working right yet
[21:06] <Calinou> Guest2077, that's a subjective question :)
[21:07] <Guest2077> Yes it is
[21:07] <Guest2077> matter of preference
[21:07] <zykotick9> Guest2077: thus... it can't be answered
[21:07] <Guest2077> it can be answered
[21:07] <Calinou> we can only answer what we use, so I'll say... xfce4-terminal
[21:08] <Guest2077> there u go
[21:08] <Calinou> you usally want to use your desktop environment's terminal program
[21:08] <Guest2077> Someone like xfce-terminal
[21:08] <billq> marshall_: try ""ing the search term or \ before each space
[21:08] <kiwi_> terminator is the best terminal
[21:08] <zykotick9> Guest2077: then, urxvt (rxvt-unicode) is the best.  but, i'd bet you'd hate it :p
[21:09] <Guest2077> a mouthful of a title, sounds alittle old, retroish
[21:09] <Guest2077> who knows might appeal
[21:10] <k1l_> Guest2077: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. for chit chat and for "what is best" questions we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:11] <marshall_> billq, just tried those again with no luck :s
[21:12] <Kuwait> hi , is that possible to burn an iso to usb external drive ? and how ?
[21:12] <Balzy> Kuwait from windows or linux?
[21:12] <Mage_Dude> zykotick9: Seen that, looks easy to setup a server for, and tell all clients to go through that proxy. Decent reporting too? Does it keep track of the installs from clients as well to show what packages it's caching?
[21:12] <Kuwait> Balzy, ubuntu 13.10
[21:13] <Balzy> what image do you want to burn on the usb drive?
[21:13] <zykotick9> Mage_Dude: well, it doesn't really "show you" but you could manually check if you needed.
[21:13] <Balzy> I mean, what distro
[21:13] <Kuwait> Balzy, opensuse 13.1
[21:14] <Mage_Dude> zykotick9: Any tips or tricks to share? Or just install and direct all clients to use that server in the apt.conf? (or whatever the correct config is)
[21:14] <Balzy> Kuwait If it's an ubuntu/Debian derivatives you could use the "Create startup disk"
[21:14] <Kuwait> Balzy, not work for me
[21:15] <zykotick9> Mage_Dude: you got it - install, update client's apt.conf = done
[21:15] <k1l_> Kuwait: use unetbootin
[21:15] <Balzy> Kuwait of course because suse it's not Debian
[21:16] <Kuwait> k1l_, doesn't detect my usb drive
[21:16] <Mage_Dude> Gracias. Here's hoping it will save some bandwidth and speed up the updates.
[21:16] <diogo> hey ppl!
[21:16] <diogo> first time with Linux
[21:16] <Calinou> hi diogo, welcome
[21:16] <diogo> I have some doubts
[21:16] <diogo> :S
[21:16] <Calinou> ask your question :)
[21:16] <diogo> can anybody help me?
[21:16] <Balzy> Kuwait unetbootin could be a good solution or you can probably find instructions to do it manually on opensuse official site
[21:17] <Kuwait> Balzy, ;o
[21:17] <diogo> how can I use my hdmi ports?
[21:17] <rasputin> Cine este din romania?
[21:17] <Kuwait> Balzy, i dono why unetbootin dosent detect my external :s
[21:17] <Calinou> diogo, what is your graphics card?
[21:17] <k1l_> !ro | rasputin
[21:17] <rasputin> plase compiz?
[21:17] <Calinou> if you don't know run "lspci | grep VGA" in a terminal
[21:17] <Balzy> Kuwait just a second :)
[21:18] <Kuwait> Balzy, np ok
[21:18] <diogo> Calinou, I know that it's an Nvidia
[21:18] <k1l_> Kuwait: wait. external hdd is something different than a usb stick
[21:18] <diogo> but I forgot which
[21:18] <diogo> how can I see that
[21:18] <Calinou> it doesn't really matter unless it is very old
[21:18] <Calinou> I told you
[21:18] <diogo> Sorry for the type of questions
[21:18] <diogo> but I'm on my first day
[21:18] <diogo> :p
[21:18] <Calinou> it's ok
[21:19] <Kuwait> k1l_, i know :x
[21:19] <Calinou> by default, nvidia cards use the Nouveau driver, which is the fruit of reverse engineering with very little support from nvidia; its HDMI support may not be optimal
[21:19] <rasputin> Nu-mi merge compizul si am instalat driverul video,cine ma poate ajuta?
[21:19] <Calinou> you might want to install the proprietary NVIDIA drivers, from the "Software Sources" menu
[21:19] <Jordan_U> Kuwait: What filesystem is on your external drive?
[21:19] <k1l_> rasputin: english please in here. the bot already told you you can ask in #ubuntu-ro
[21:19] <Kuwait> Jordan_U, fat32
[21:20] <Kuwait> Jordan_U, and i convert it to NTFS
[21:20] <rasputin> driver instal nvidia gf 8400 ok
[21:20] <Jordan_U> Kuwait: I don't think that unetbootin supports ntfs.