[14:23] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:24] <bregma> howday
[14:25] <BluesKaj> 'morning bregma
[19:01] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[19:11] <willwh> dscassel: any joy yet? :P
[19:20] <dscassel> willwh: Not really. I'm just living without logging, really.
[19:23] <willwh> lol ;(
[19:23] <willwh> I have a node.js bot that is pumping channel logs to a couchdb anyway
[19:23] <willwh> but
[19:23] <willwh> still
[19:24] <willwh> not for here - but the channels I do want to log >.>
[19:27] <dscassel> #ubuntu-ca is logged by ubuntulog anyway.


[19:58] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: did you run:   sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[19:58] <designbybeck> I'm trying to spin up a VM of Ubuntu so I can run the Ubuntu Distro BUilder to make my own custom distro
[19:58] <bekks> designbybeck: Well, then just do as you are told by the error message.
[19:59] <bekks> wa11: Then you should stop any further activity on that and provide all your information so far to your admin.
[19:59] <designbybeck> ActionParsnip:  http://www.pasteall.org/37264
[19:59] <wa11> ok
[19:59] <designbybeck> that was my output
[19:59] <wa11> i am admin :(
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> designbybeck  this is what i used to make vbox work    sudo modprobe vboxdrv;sudo modprobe vboxnetflt
[19:59] <bekks> wa11: Which I cant believe.
[20:00] <bekks> designbybeck: "Please install the linux-headers-3.5.0-18-generic package,
[20:00] <wa11> why?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: if you run:   sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-headers-3.5.0-18-generic   does it install?
[20:00] <bekks> designbybeck: Thats what the second message tells you.
[20:00] <designbybeck> will that not mess up anything else ActionParsnip?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: how would it?
[20:01] <designbybeck> lol no clue!
[20:01] <wa11> bekks: this is a forensic pen test about wireless networking
[20:01] <designbybeck> i'm running it now ActionParsnip
[20:02] <wa11> i can log the users mac
[20:03] <wa11> but its not usefull
[20:03] <wa11> bekks r u there?
[20:03] <designbybeck> ActionParsnip:  bekks that worked! Thanks
[20:04] <bekks> wa11: I am here, yes. I'm trying to figure out why having the intruders MAC and still having control over your network infrastructure isnt enough to identify the location of the intruder.
[20:04] <morphias> is there a channel specific to asking questions about programming?
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> morphias  what language?
[20:04] <morphias> C++
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> morphias: try #c++
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> morphias  try #c++
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  was faster :)
[20:05] <zykotick9> morphias: see "/msg ubottu alis" for a method of searching for different channels on freenode
[20:05] <wa11> is it enough?
[20:05] <wa11> how?
[20:06] <morphias> channel C++ is invite only
[20:06] <zykotick9> morphias: see "/msg ubottu register" to fix that issue
[20:06] <bekks> wa11: Having the MAC, you can easily identify the location of the intruder by just asking your network switches: "which port is it that MAC is connected to?". Call the cops, tell them where to search, done.
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> morphias  type /msg nickserv register [password] [email]
[20:08] <Erik_D> ^...wut
[20:08] <morphias>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER morphias cpvuzitpibnq
[20:08] <netmk> lol.
[20:08] <Boreeas> Fail reg
[20:08] <wa11> bekks :within wireless network?
[20:09] <morphias> lol
[20:09] <zykotick9> morphias: no space at the beginning.  use differnt password.
[20:09] <morphias> aight
[20:09] <bekks> wa11: Sure. Wireless access point doe not have inifinite range.
[20:11] <morphias> what is the key parameter in setpass?
[20:12] <SierraAR> What's ubuntu's version of ipconfig /flushdns?
[20:13] <wa11> that means the cops go to all my neighburs door!
[20:13] <wa11> bekks : what about this
[20:13] <wa11> macchanger -r wlanX
[20:14] <bekks> wa11: Well, whatever MAC it is, you know where it is connected to.
[20:14] <zykotick9> morphias: for help registering or finding channels try the #freenode channel.  "/join #freenode"
[20:15] <wa11> bekks : yes? thats what i search
[20:15] <bekks> wa11: And why dont you just shutdown your WLAN to secure your network?
[20:15] <bekks> wa11: I told you how to find it out. :)
[20:15] <wa11> bekks :i dont understand
[20:15] <wa11> sorry
[20:16] <bekks> wa11: Either disable external access until you've secured your network or just investigate to switch AP that intruding MAC is connected and take further steps (like calling the cops) to track down the intruder.
[20:18] <d00ml0rd> does irssi have the ability to split windows side by sid e?
[20:18] <wa11> bekks : but i want to learn this steps ! i told u this is a test.
[20:19] <bekks> wa11: Then you have to learn on how to monitor your network hardware, I guess.
[20:19] <jrib> d00ml0rd: I know it didn't at one point.  Not sure if that's still true.  Check the irssi docs.  I know weechat *can* do this though
[20:21] <beatsteaks> hey guys
[20:21] <wa11> bekks: thats sounds good. but in this case i got his MAC, but i donot know how to discover his location!
[20:21] <beatsteaks> how can I enable /etc/resolv.conf.tail file to add static dns servers ??
[20:21] <jrib> !resolv.conf | beatsteaks
[20:22] <bekks> wa11: Then you have to learn on how to get that information from your hardware, which certainly isnt running Ubuntu.
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> beatsteaks: its default, just add the nameserver as you would in /etc/resolv.conf  and it gets added at the end
[20:23] <beatsteaks> jrib thanks
[20:23] <wa11> bekks: ok , r u talking about his wireless card power or ttl in pinging and etc?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> beatsteaks: should be in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d   too ;)
[20:23] <beatsteaks> ActionParsnip but not after reboot :/
[20:24] <bekks> wa11: No. I am talking about controlling your network hardware like routers, swicthes, etc.
[20:25] <wa11> bekks : my switches map his location? :D
[20:26] <bekks> wa11: you know the range of your AP and the port your AP is connected to a switch. And you know the physical location of the switch and of the AP. Isnt that enough?
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> beatsteaks: try adding it in the base file
[20:28] <wa11> bekks : i feel stupidy!!
[20:29] <beatsteaks> ActionParsnip oki thanks, let me try
[20:30] <wa11> bekks: my AP is a gateway to internet and the clients use this to connect the internet
[20:30] <wa11> bekks : the intruders is in my LAN
[20:30] <bekks> wa11: So you know the location and the range. done.
[20:30] <Melvin> hello
[20:31] <hhn> whois hhn
[20:31] <Melvin> need help on configuring ethernet. The forums didn't help me. reeled my time and brain activity since a week. No solution! please help!
[20:32] <wa11> bekks: the location is my room for example and range 100 meter including 15 houses!
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: what ethernet chip?
[20:32] <Melvin> U mean the make?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: yes, and model
[20:33] <bekks> wa11: Well, thats wifi :)
[20:34] <wa11> bekks: so?
[20:34] <bekks> wa11: Thats all you can get then.
[20:34] <Melvin> Atheros. I believe the model is AR813x/AR815x . I've googled my Lenovo's specs. No clue.
[20:35] <wa11> bekks : what can the cops do with this?
[20:35] <bekks> wa11: Track down the intruder.
Atheros. I believe the model is AR813x/AR815x . I've googled my Lenovo's specs. No clue.
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: why not just run:   sudo lshw -C network
[20:36] <jrib> wa11: https://twitter.com/SadaoTurner/status/230737352958566401/photo/1/large invest in one of these :x
[20:36] <genii-around> Melvin: Usually, either: lspci -nn        or: lsusb    will give some useful info about the adapter
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: then you can see EXCACT:Y what it is rather than what the web says.....
 no. that doesnt work.
[20:36] <themhz> I have installed aptana on my system, but when I open the program, the icon on the left bar is a question mark and not the aptana icon, why?
[20:37] <Tony_> hi all i was going to install ubuntu in virtual box and was wondering how much vido and cpu power to give it?. also should i use ubuntu 64 bit
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: it's a default command in Ubuntu
[20:37] <stingher> Hi
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: the command is case sensitive and the spaces are important too
 when ifconfig is entered as root, only wlan0 and lo are listed.
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: if you run the command I ran, do you see an Ethernet chip?
[20:37] <stingher> fnlag know?
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: or:  lspci    if a command with spaces is too hard
[20:38] <stingher> Hi, do you know fnlag?
[20:38] <beatsteaks> ActionParsnip thanks it worked :D
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> beatsteaks: :)
[20:38] <steJaxx> hi everyone
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: one line will identify the Ethernet chip, if not then you may want to check it is enabled in BIOS
[20:39] <Tony_> anyone no how much ram and v ram and processor to give ubuntu in virtual box?
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Tony_: which desktop are you using?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Tony_: on the guest, that is :)
[20:40] <steJaxx> who used kde instead unity ?
[20:40] <Tony_> havent installed it yet but my host system is win 7  and i d-loaded the 64 bit version of ubuntu 12.10 i think it is the latest one
 I ran them !
[20:40] <bekks> steJaxx: Oh, another poll?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: do you see the controller
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> steJaxx: you can run unity in Kde if you want
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> steJaxx: unity isn't a replacement for Gnome
[20:41] <steJaxx> yes it is!!
[20:41] <Braber00001> question how to I print address Labels in LibireOffice?
 I do! its Atheros Communications Device [1969;1090] (rev 10)
[20:41] <wa11> bekks : thanks a lot!
[20:41] <Tony_> wanted to have it all down so all i have to do is install it in virtual box and set it up and go from there
[20:41] <steJaxx> how can I run unity in kde ?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: ok, use the hex ID you see to find guides
[20:42] <Braber00001> In libireOffice CaLC, how do I print address Labels?
[20:42] <gustav__> Anyone know why xdg-screensaver opens files in the bluray when I'm watching it with vlc?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> steJaxx: you'll need to run compiz instead of kwin     I've not done it myself but in theory it makes sense
 I'm sorry but what hex ID?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: 1969:1090     they are hexadecimal values
 ok. what do i do with them.
[20:43] <wa11> bekks : in ur country cops can investigate all the 15 houses and check the MACs? :-p
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%221969%3A1090%22+ubuntu    something like that.....
[20:44] <xangua> steJaxx: kde already has a fullscreen launcher, unity like http://www.iloveubuntu.net/kde-developers-launch-homerun-unity-interface
[20:44] <steJaxx> very interesting
[20:44] <guntbert> Braber00001: maybe ask in #libreoffice
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> !info glabels | Braber00001
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> Braber00001: source:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+label+printer
 ok, will look into it. But stay here. I might need u again. thanks for that. will be right back!
 Come in!
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: huh?
[20:47] <Fishscene> Greetings. I'm trying to compress 29GB of data. I'm using "Archive manager" to do this, but quite frankly, I can't wait 24 - 48 hours for it to compress. Is there some way of setting the compression level?
[20:47] <mikestewart> Fishscene, depends on the type of compression
 I tried that package! I recently posted a question on the same in "askubuntu.com".. would u please read that? here's the link.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/217719/unable-to-configure-ethernet-on-lenovo-g580-laptop
[20:48] <Tony_> so in theory would 1 gig ram work and 2 processors and nowt sure how much video ram to allocate to it inside V-box
[20:48] <Fishscene> mikestweart: I have been using 7zip, which I *know* supports different levels, but I can't seem to find the options for it.
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> Fishscene: if you use options in gzip you can set compression level
[20:49] <mikestewart> Fishscene, er, rather no.  at least not via GUI
[20:49] <Melvin> Fishscene: remember, higher the compression ratio, longer the time it takes to reach that ratio!
[20:49] <Fishscene> ActionParsnip: Is "gzip" the name of a program?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Fishscene: yes
[20:49] <Fishscene> Melvin: Correct. I suspect it's maximizing the compression, but I only need to shave a couple of gigs off
[20:50] <moonvoniron> Can i run 'phtoscape.exe" with ubuntu 12.04LTS ?
[20:50] <guntbert> Melvin: just a hint from the sideline: you don't need < > around nicknames
[20:50] <dr_willis> 7zip has cli tools also
[20:50] <Melvin> fishscene have u got 7zip?
[20:51] <moonvoniron> please , help me ..
[20:51] <woot-0854> exit
[20:51] <Fishscene> Melvin: Yup. I'm looking up the command line now so I can set the compression level
[20:52] <themhz> I have installed aptana on my system, but when I open the program, the icon on the left bar is a question mark and not the aptana icon, why?
[20:52] <dr_willis> !appdb | moonvoniron
[20:52] <Melvin> ActionParsnip any solution for that post?
[20:52] <Tony_> please anyone have help for me this is my first virtual box setup
[20:52] <bekks> Tony_: Just assign 16MB VRAM.
[20:52] <dr_willis> Tony_:  i tend to just use the defaults, you can change them later
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/alx   seems to need the alx module
[20:53] <lonewulf85> Would anyone be able to help with a minor question. I need to reinstall, I will be going with 12.04 my question is I have a amd c60 cpu which is 64bit would the 12.04 64bit be better for me then the 32bit?
[20:53] <designbybeck> If you create a fixed VDI in VirtualBox can you resize it??
[20:53] <Tony_> yea but someone over at forums said it was quit lag with defualts so before i did it i came over here to ask lol
[20:53] <designbybeck> I undershot the size I needed!!
[20:53] <dr_willis> lonewulf85:  id go 64bit os on 64bit hardware these days
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: I'd ask in #vbox
[20:54] <designbybeck> Thanks ActionParsnip
[20:54] <dr_willis> designbybeck:  yes you can
[20:54] <Melvin> fishscene tar -cvf file.tar /path/to/directory ; gzip -9 file.tar.gz
[20:54] <devslash> I think im having some over head issues on my headless ubuntu server which doesnt have xorg installed. When i do ps -A i see 11 apache processes. I closed all browsed all the browsers connected to my site and no one else has the link to it
[20:54] <Fishscene> Melvin: Thanks mate.
[20:54] <Melvin> fishscene "9" is for the highest compression ratio.
[20:54] <lonewulf85> dr_willis: Where I plan on learning to program will the 64bit cpu and kernel help me out?
[20:55] <Tony_> ok so should i do a fixed lik3 20 or 30 gig virtual drive or let v- box handel it?
[20:55] <devslash> Any ideas?
[20:55] <Melvin> fishscene however the default is not 1, but 6.
[20:55] <Melvin> actioparsnip I tried that too. no luck. hope u r still patient :/
[20:56] <guntbert> !tab | Melvin another hint
[20:56] <moonvoniron> dr_willis:  I opened it with wine then so many numbers appears
[20:56] <dr_willis> Tony_:  you could always use more then one virtual drive if you wanted.
[20:57] <dr_willis> moonvoniron:  see #winehq for wine help.  i dont use photoshop
[20:57] <devslash> I think im having some overhead issues on my headless ubuntu server which doesnt have xorg installed. It seems to slow down noticeably at random times.  When i do ps -A i see 11 apache processes. I closed all browsed all the browsers connected to my site and no one else has the link to it
[20:57] <Melvin> tab key. how? god!
[20:58] <dr_willis> devslash:  some services keep a few processes/threads 'open and ready' for when someone does connect
[20:58] <Melvin> !tab
[20:58] <moonvoniron> ok
[20:58] <moonvoniron> :)
[20:58] <devslash> Dr_willis then how do i see if a process is slowing down my server
[20:58] <Tony_> reason i ask is it defaults dynamically expanding virtual hard drive  but some say a fixed drive is better whats your take on this?
[20:58] <Melvin> ActionParsnip come in!
[20:59] <dr_willis> devslash:  what does htop say about the system?
[20:59] <bekks> Tony_: Just use a dynamically sized disk for your first steps.
[20:59] <dr_willis> Tony_:  i use dynamic
[20:59] <dr_willis> i just use vbox to test different distros
[20:59] <guntbert> devslash: apache starts by default several processes "just in case"
[21:00] <Tony_> one more question can i safely run Ubuntu all the time in V-box? wanted to ask before i go all the  way here.
[21:00] <sianhulo> guys, I tried to chage icon size of unity and make it hide, but for some reason it didn't change anything
[21:00] <guntbert> Tony_: of course
[21:01] <dr_willis> Tony_:  not sure what you mean by that
[21:01] <Tony_> like can  i run it all the time like a normal install ?
[21:01] <Melvin> ActionParsnip Come in!
[21:01] <devslash> Htop lists a lot of processes.im not sure how to read it
[21:01] <dr_willis> Tony_:  you could
[21:01] <Fishscene> Tony_: Ubuntu runs just fine in Virtualbox. The only caveats are hardware accelleration and working in a VM environment (same with any virtual machine)
[21:01] <dr_willis> devslash:  it should show the ones using the most cpu first
[21:02] <Tony_> hmm how do i tell if i have hardware acceleration?
[21:02] <Melvin> would somebody address my problem! :/
[21:03] <dr_willis> Melvin:  i dont even recall seeing you state a problem
[21:03] <devslash> Ok htop is at the top followed by 2 utorrent server processes and 18 mysqld processes
[21:03] <bulletrulz> this is a picture from bad bunny
[21:03] <bulletrulz> http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/File:Badbunny.jpeg
[21:03] <Fishscene> Tony_: Since a virtual machine runs on top of an existing operating system, it doesn't necessarily have native or full access to the hardware (especially for 3D graphics). But this is an issue with the nature of VM's themselves and not an Ubuntu-specific problem. However, I say go ahead and give it a try and see for yourself how well it works for you.
[21:04] <Melvin> I did. ActionPArsnip was suppposed to be the medicine. He ain't online now i believe!
[21:04] <dr_willis> devslash:  and your total cpu load is what? what does uptime say about your load
[21:04] <Tony_> ok i see so only way i will be able to tell is to install it configure it and go from there thanks will do and thanks for the help here :)
[21:05] <dr_willis> if htop is the top process.. then i imagine your load is quite low
[21:05] <devslash> Where does it show the load
[21:05] <Melvin> dr_willis i have a lenovoG580 and the ethernet card doesnt show up in the terminal! ifconfig inputted, but no display of any eth0 or eth1 apart from lo and wlan0.
[21:05] <devslash> I mean the total load
[21:05] <dr_willis> should be a %cpu used somewhere
[21:05] <lonewulf85> I plan on learning to program will the 64bit cpu and kernel help me out?
[21:06] <dr_willis> lonewulf85:  i doubt it it will matter much
[21:06] <devslash> Load average is 0.4%
[21:06] <dr_willis> lonewulf85:  'learning to program' could be done on a PaspberryPi ;)  its a big topic
[21:06] <lonewulf85> dr_willis: I know that if I want to also program 64bit apps it might make a difference correct?
[21:07] <dr_willis> lonewulf85:  i imagine it will be some time befor 64bit vs 3bit matters to you.
[21:07] <dr_willis> 32bit.
[21:07] <Melvin> ANYONE??
[21:07] <devslash> Dr_willis the load average is 0.6%
[21:08] <lonewulf85> dr_willis: alrighty thanks and now I get to reinstall apps YEAH!!!!
[21:08] <devslash> It varies
[21:08] <Melvin> dr_willis
[21:08] <dr_willis> devslash:  seems nice and low to me.
[21:08] <devslash> Ok maybe my issue isnt a server overhead issue then
[21:09] <dr_willis> Melvin:  id check the forums and askubuntu.com about your exact make laptop and the chipset its using. its rare a wired nic dosent work.. and rarer for an ibm box to have issues
[21:09] <mag]]> oh shit, gnome just flipped its shit, I'm fucked
[21:10] <mokarenko> Hello everyone. I need to know how to get a volume control applet in the panel (xfce) without resorting to the indicator plugin (I tried at #xubuntu but no one has answered) Any ideas?
[21:10] <Melvin> dr_willis i tried the forums! no clue! i'm on a hunt since a week! believe me. i wdnt land here before going to the forums.
[21:10] <Fishscene> Melvin: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[21:10] <Melvin> dr_willis My question on askubuntu.com.
[21:10] <dr_willis> Melvin:  tried askubuntu.com?
[21:11] <dr_willis> you did search there first? ;)
[21:11] <Fishscene> Melvin: Specifically, what happens when you run "sudo lshw -class network"
[21:11] <Melvin> dr_willis http://askubuntu.com/questions/217719/unable-to-configure-ethernet-on-lenovo-g580-laptop
[21:11] <slavik__> tst
[21:12] <Melvin> Fishscene i ran that command . it says "sudo: /etc/sudoers.dreadme is mode 0555, should be 0440
[21:12] <dr_willis> Melvin:  i would also test with some other different distros, like puppylinux, tinycorelinux and other live cds
[21:13] <dr_willis> Melvin:  see if it works with any of them
[21:13] <zootsko> Hi. wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve says to install NVIDIA drivers from 'Software Properties', but I do not see any drivers there. Can anyone help, please?
[21:13] <C2> HI EVERYBODY!
[21:13] <jrib> zootsko: what ubuntu version?
[21:14] <zootsko> jrib: 12.10
[21:14] <dr_willis> zootsko:  in 12.10 the addatoinal-drivers tab is in the 'software sources' tool now
[21:14] <GoRg> Slm
[21:14] <bkfitz> 12.04 on a new x1 carbon laptop - had it a month.  ~5 times the machine has just frozen solid... as in total coma.  screen freezes and no inputs work. It just happend when I opened Google Chrome, but it has happened other times as well.  Anything I can do to troubleshoot?  I've just rebooted
[21:14] <Fishscene> Melvin: dreadme = your username? Sounds like a permissions issue or something... which could be part of your problem.
[21:14] <GoRg> Alo
[21:14] <GoRg> Nistin
[21:14] <jrib> Fishscene: he probably means /etc/sudoers.d/README and just mistyped the error
[21:15] <Melvin> dr_willis Here's the thing. i googled, ubuntuforumed, searched ask ubuntu.com regarding the inability of Lenovo g580's to automaticaly cinfigure ethernet . These lenovo's have an issue. A compat driver must be downloaded and installed via the terminal.
[21:15] <GoRg> Khobid?
[21:15] <dr_willis> Fishscene:  i think he ment   sudoers.d/readme
[21:15] <GoRg> !ping
[21:15] <zootsko> dr_willis: I see no drivers under the 'Additional drivers' tab. Just an empty list.
[21:15] <Melvin> fishscene username? where?
[21:15] <dr_willis> zootsko:  and your video card is? is it one of those optimus chipsets?
[21:16] <Fishscene> oh hah. I didn't even see that. ...but strange that it would throw that error after running "sudo lshw -class network"
[21:16] <zootsko> dr_willis: Its GeForce GT 630M
[21:16] <dr_willis> sounds like hes been messing in sudoers.d/
[21:16] <ses1984> i'm trying to configure ubuntu as a tftp server for pxe boot. it seems like i'm starting to get things right but i'm stuck at a certain spot and can't figure out what's wrong
[21:17] <Melvin> Fishscene here it is. http://askubuntu.com/questions/217719/unable-to-configure-ethernet-on-lenovo-g580-laptop
[21:17] <Melvin> dr_willis http://askubuntu.com/questions/217719/unable-to-configure-ethernet-on-lenovo-g580-laptop
[21:17] <Fishscene> ses1984: Are you following a guide? If so, post the guide and let us know which step you are stuck on
[21:17] <ses1984> on the machine, i can tftp localhost, and get pxelinux.0 which i got from netboot.tar.gz from ubuntu's server. extracted the whole thing into /srv/tftp
[21:17] <ses1984> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/install-tftp.html
[21:18] <ses1984> the client starts to pxe boot, gets an ip from the dhcp server, and gets pxelinux.0 from the tftp server. i can see in the syslog of the server that the client requested pxelinux.0
[21:18] <ses1984> then the client just says "MTFTP..." and does nothing after that
[21:18] <dr_willis> Melvin:  so .. you got an answer on what you need to do? you just dont understand  it?
[21:19] <Melvin> dr_willis Thats my question in askubuntu.com buddy. thought that would give u a clear look on what i'm trying to convey.
[21:20] <dr_willis> im on my phone so cant do much research.  you said you needed some driver. where did that info come from?
[21:20] <ikonia> what network card is it ?
[21:20] <chaingun> Melvin: eth0 not showing up indicates that the proper driver isn't loaded
[21:21] <Fishscene> ses1984: Check the solution here and see if it helps: http://scug.be/sccm/2011/01/13/configmgr-2007-pxe-boot-amp-mtftp-defaulting-and-make-you-wait-for-10-15-minutes
[21:21] <ses1984> thanks i'll check it out
[21:21] <sianhulo> guys, changing icon size and hiding unity is impossible. It's like ubuntu is ignoring what i'm changing
[21:22] <dr_willis> sianhulo:  make a new user.. see if it works for them.
[21:22] <Melvin> chaingun THATS exactly what i mean! where do i star from! please help!!
[21:22] <ikonia> Melvin: what network card is it
[21:22] <dr_willis> sianhulo:  ive seen where some config files get owned by root and thus cant get changed.. the new user test may give a clue if thats the case
[21:22] <sianhulo> dr_willis, well, this is dresh install, though i kept my /home, in the case it works with other user what should I do then?
[21:22] <Melvin> ikonia atheros AR813x/Ar815x...
[21:23] <ikonia> that's wireles
[21:23] <ikonia> wireless
[21:23] <chaingun> Melvin: Your first step is to find out what the correct driver is. Then determine whether it is available in the standard repositories or not. If it is, you're in luck. Just install from there and you should be good to go. Otherwise, your best bet is to grab the source for the proper driver, and compile/install it yourself.
[21:23] <dr_willis> sianhulo:  you could just reset all your unity and compiz settinga back to default also
[21:23] <gapert> i need help , 2 weeks ago i installed ubuntu , what to do with  dev/mapper/cryptswap1 , ?
[21:23] <Fishscene> ses1984: "MTFTP" seems to refer to "Multicast Trivial File Transfer Protocol" - which I'm not sure why anyone would be using that. so if you aren't, you might also want to look into anything that might be enabling a multicast option on your PXE setup.
[21:23] <chaingun> Melvin: This is not a simple process if this is your first time messing with this stuff. But you will learn a lot as you work through it.
[21:23] <dr_willis> bbl.. gotta run
[21:23] <ikonia> gapert: why did you encypt swap ?
[21:23] <gapert> i don know,
[21:24] <sianhulo> dr_willis, well, i'll google that as i tried it already, I think they changed them so I'll leave, thanks
[21:24] <Dezgeg> Hi. Can someone transfer this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/1024800 to the package responsible for the "Keyboard layout" option in System settings
[21:24] <ikonia> Dezgeg: transfer this bug ?
[21:24] <Dezgeg> that's not the correct package i presume
[21:25] <ikonia> Dezgeg: the bug team will pick it up
[21:25] <Dezgeg> well that's over 4 months old already
[21:25] <ikonia> Dezgeg: the bug team will pick it up
[21:25] <chaingun> Melvin: I assume you have come across this http://www.zyxware.com/articles/2680/solved-wired-connection-eth0-not-detected-in-ubuntu-12-04
[21:25] <gapert> i installed ubuntu , then after a few days ago , don anything about it
[21:25] <Melvin> chaingun hows that possible. here's the list. now i can't try all these packages right!! http://linuxwireless.org/download/compat-wireless-2.6/
[21:25] <chaingun> Melvin:  that article I just linked walks you through it
[21:25] <ikonia> oops
[21:25] <Melvin> chaingun Yes, i have! No luck with that bro!
[21:25] <ikonia> sorry
[21:26] <ikonia> Melvin: that is your wireless
[21:26] <chaingun> Melvin:  what step do you get stuck on
[21:26] <ikonia> Melvin: you said your ethernet
[21:26] <chaingun> the article states that this fixes the wired issue as well
[21:26] <chaingun> I don't pretend to understand how
[21:26] <Melvin> ikonia its an ethernet LAN controller.
[21:27] <ikonia> Melvin: right - so why are you looking at wireless networking packages
[21:27] <chaingun> Melvin:  I have about 2 minutes before I have to go.
[21:27] <chaingun> Melvin:  what part do you get stuck at?
[21:27] <Melvin> chaingun when i say ifconfig my LAN card soesn't show up in the terminal.
[21:27] <chaingun> have you compiled and installed that driver?
[21:27] <Dezgeg> Oh dear god. I really wonder why people ever bother even trying, Stockholm syndrome I guess.
[21:27] <iwaffles> I changed my password using 'passwd' and I can login via ssh but not sftp because it rejects the password. Is there a way to refresh this?
[21:27] <Melvin> chaingun no.
[21:27] <ses1984> Fishscene: i figured the part about the multicast tftp and i haven't found anything to indicate why it's being used in my config. still looking. by the way i'm using ddwrt as the dhcp server using dhcpd and dnsmasq
[21:28] <Melvin> changun i cant see mu eth0.
[21:28] <gapert> what is the best .nl channel too ask what do about the dev/mapper/cryptswap ? sometimes i get a little chance too press S for mount or M for maniging by hand
[21:28] <bekks> Melvin: Then check "ifconfig -a"
[21:28] <chaingun> Melvin: because you haven;t installed the driver yet
[21:28] <chaingun> install the driver and it should appear
[21:28] <chaingun> I must go. If I am back on later I can try to help more
[21:29] <tinkster> debian 6.0.6,  mrtg 2.16.3-3 ... it appears that mrtg is trying to monitor things I didn't ask for, and failing to get systemUptime (which doesn't exist looking at snmpwalk output on the box) generates an e-Mail every 5 minutes, which is annoying  ... googling for 1 h shows similar reports for the last 12 years :} ... feeding the option NoMIB2 seems to make this go away; would it be worthwhile to create a bug-report w/ solution?
[21:29] <Melvin> ikonia
[21:29] <ikonia> Melvin: what ?
[21:29] <Melvin> chaingun so how do i get that driver?
[21:29] <bekks> tinkster: How is that related to Ubuntu?
[21:29] <tinkster> Ooops
[21:29] <tinkster> right you are
[21:29] <tinkster> wrong channel
[21:30] <Fishscene> ses1984: Acknowledged. I had a few .... fun trials when trying to configure the DHCP server when I had ddwrt a few years ago. I'm horribly out of touch with that project now though. =\
[21:30] <Melvin> chaingun the forums say thats the only way i can get my ethernet LAN working. But i'm screwed.
[21:30] <Melvin> bekks that doesnt help either! only wlan0 and lo are listed
[21:31] <ikonia> Melvin: why will you not answer the quesiton, what network card is it
[21:32] <Melvin> THE THING NOW IS TO FIND THAT COMPATIBLE DRIVER!
[21:32] <Melvin> IKONIA ITS ATHEROS!
[21:32] <ikonia> Melvin: typing in caps won't help
[21:32] <ikonia> Melvin: that is your wireless card
[21:32] <ikonia> not your ethernet card
[21:32] <sianhulo> dr_willis, ok, this is wierd, I used unity-reset for the matter, and it changed for what I put, however, jsut for a few seconds and came back to normal....
[21:32] <Melvin> ikonia no! its the LAN card.
[21:32] <ikonia> Melvin: it is possible, but I don't agree it is
[21:32] <Fishscene> How would Melvin display the ethernet adapter card info?
[21:33] <sianhulo> dr_willis, nevermind, now it changed again
[21:33] <bekks> Fishscene: By using lspci -vvn e.g.
[21:33] <ikonia> lspci will show the devices or lshw
[21:34] <ekhaat> sv
[21:34] <Melvin> fishscene its atheros AR813x/ AR815x! the correct version isnt known. i tried the internet for the lenovo G580 specs and hardware config. no sound.
[21:34] <Fishscene> Melvin: try: lspci | grep "Ethernet"
[21:34] <ikonia> "the correct versions isn't known" - nonsense
[21:35] <votz> I am attempting to build the netcat-openbsd package from source. I've checked out the contents with 'apt-get source netcat-openbsd'. I then run 'dpkg-source -x netcat-openbsd_1.89-3ubuntu5.dsc' and that completes successfully. But, upon build there are errors.
[21:35] <Melvin> fishscene that command doesn't display a thing
[21:35] <ikonia> votz: why are you building it from source
[21:35] <ikonia> Melvin: pastebin the output of "lspci" please.
[21:35] <ikonia> votz: there is a package
[21:36] <ikonia> Melvin: (please make sure in a pastebin, not the channel)
[21:36] <votz> netcat-openbsd-1.89/netcat.c isn't modified, even though there are changes to netcat.c that should be applied in the diff. They aren't. Any idea why?
[21:36] <Melvin> iknia. one moment. on it.
[21:37] <votz> ikonia: I would like to port this openbsd version of netcat to a different version of linux. I am starting by getting it built on Ubuntu.
[21:37] <ikonia> votz: there is no value in building it on ubuntu
[21:37] <ikonia> if you are going to port it
[21:38] <ikonia> just build it on the target platform
[21:38] <votz> ikonia: I need to resolve the patching issue first, Ubuntu or not.
[21:39] <ikonia> votz: then resolve it
[21:40] <votz> ikonia: I have also attempted to patch manually, following this guide: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/source-unpack.txt. I am unsure why netcat.c remains unpatched.
[21:40] <ikonia> votz: unpack the source, patch it and build it outside of the deb system
[21:43] <jorgerosa> Hello all
[21:46] <Melvin> I'm back!
[21:46] <jorgerosa> I am developing a (sort of) music player (simple stuff + crossplatform libraries) I can compile it for MS Windows (exe binaries), BUT I need someone to compile it to Ubuntu (So, even I could use in my loved Ubuntu PC), can anyone do this, please?
[21:46] <Melvin> fishscene
[21:46] <Melvin> ikonia
[21:46] <Melvin> ikonia http://pastebin.com/dqMtL7HS
[21:46] <jorgerosa> thanks in advance :)
[21:46] <ikonia> jorgerosa: what language is it written in
[21:47] <jorgerosa> c++
[21:47] <jorgerosa> im using c::B
[21:47] <ikonia> jorgerosa: what display libraries ?
[21:47] <Melvin> Fishscene http://pastebin.com/dqMtL7HS
[21:47] <jorgerosa> but is simple only 1 c++ file + libs
[21:47] <ikonia> Melvin: it's a broadcom
[21:47] <ikonia> oops
[21:47] <ikonia> no it's not
[21:47] <ikonia> jorgerosa: what graphics library is it using
[21:48] <Fishscene> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Device 1090 (rev 10)
[21:48] <jorgerosa> ikonia: can i post urls here?
[21:48] <ikonia> jorgerosa: no
[21:48] <ikonia> jorgerosa: just tell me
[21:48] <ikonia> jorgerosa: you've written it
[21:48] <llutz> Melvin: sudo update-pciids
[21:48] <ikonia> jorgerosa: what  graphics library
[21:48] <ikonia> llutz: I was just thinking the pci id is probably wrong
[21:49] <llutz> ikonia: or too new to be recognized
[21:49] <jorgerosa> ok, its IMP - Irrlicht Media Player (on sourceforgenet) it uses Irrlicht + Audiere (thats all)
[21:49] <ikonia> llutz: that's the other
[21:49] <ikonia> jorgerosa: you said you had written it
[21:49] <jorgerosa> y
[21:49] <Melvin> ikonia http://pastebin.com/PHy498L1
[21:49] <ikonia> jorgerosa: right - so what graphics library is it using
[21:50] <jorgerosa> Irrlicht (3D graphics engine)
[21:50] <ikonia> jorgerosa: it must be using something to draw the actual display
[21:50] <jorgerosa> OpenGl, u mean?
[21:50] <ikonia> GTK/QT/MFC/$something
[21:50] <ikonia> Melvin: is that after update-pcids ?
[21:51] <jorgerosa> an, nope, all from Irrlicht (simple embed -crossplatform- keyboard + windows stuff, no needs aditional stuff)
[21:52] <Melvin> ikonia the result of the command http://pastebin.com/Y5D6rgej
[21:52] <votz> ikonia: This is what I'm doing. http://pastie.org/private/tgsdmgrib6uasxjr8rjq
[21:52] <jorgerosa> its kind of a sort of mini SDL an Wx (if i may say that way)
[21:53] <Melvin> ikonia oops! is it pcids or pciids?
[21:53] <Fishscene> Melvin: That Sudo problem needs to be fixed or you aren't going to get anywhere fixing this issue.
[21:53] <ikonia> Melvin: this is backtrack !!!!
[21:53] <Melvin> ikonia yes it is!
[21:53] <ikonia> Melvin: this channel supports UBUNTU
[21:53] <Fishscene> -_____-
[21:54] <Melvin> ikonia i know. that backtrack channel wasn't responsive. and the same issue goes in ubuntu too!
[21:54] <ikonia> sorry - no
[21:54] <ikonia> you need to tack this to backtrack
[21:54] <votz> In the diff file, there are patches like http://pastie.org/private/ngzcabqldubew3osz5qbta. But after the patch, netcat.c remains unpatched at the Feb 20, 2007 version. Here is the output of the patch command. http://pastie.org/private/4bn9wun6gdzaapm56xuew. No errors.
[21:54] <Melvin> ikonia the config is similar in both! the same kernel resides in both of them.
[21:55] <ikonia> sorry - no
[21:55] <ikonia> Melvin: this needs to go to backtrack
[21:55] <ikonia> votz: why are you trying to patch it outside the source tree ?
[21:55] <Melvin> ikonia no no! you see, i've tried really hard since a week and half. 14hrs a day on my system, and please dont abandon this!
[21:56] <ikonia> Melvin: it's not for this channel
[21:56] <Fishscene> Melvin: Each distro handles things *slightly* differently, which makes it exceedingly difficult for even related distro's to iron out issues such as this. If you can duplicate this problem within Ubuntu and work on this *though* Ubuntu, then we can assist.
[21:56] <Melvin> fishscene i concur. shoot!
[21:56] <votz> ikonia: The patch file headers are prefixed with netcat-openbsd-1.89/ and -p0 is used.
[21:57] <Fishscene> brb. I need to take care of some things.
[21:57] <ikonia> votz: it doesn't look like it's patching it
[21:57] <Melvin> ikonia now shoot! help me out ! its ubuntu now !
[21:57] <ikonia> Melvin: no you are not
[21:57] <OerHeks> !bt > Melvin
[21:57] <maslo> hi guys I'm pretty new to shell scripting and I'm wondering how I'd manage to do 2 things, using df-h how would I only get the Size and Used value? and how would I multiply a variable by 0.0009765625 says something about the base being too big
[21:57] <ikonia> Melvin: please take it to #backtrack-linux
[21:57] <jrib> maslo: #bash can help you with scripting
[21:57] <votz> ikonia: Ya. I don't know why.
[21:59] <MFen> how do i configure my servers so postfix stops asking me that useless goddamn question during upgrades
[21:59] <Melvin> ikonia it says "cannot send to channel"
[21:59] <ikonia> Melvin: you're not registered
[21:59] <MFen> sorry for the rage, but this just killed an entire client's server of mine
[21:59] <MFen> postfix popped up its question during a headless upgrade, AFTER postgresql was shut down. doom.
[21:59] <Melvin> ikonia assist please. registration,
[22:00] <llutz> !register  | Melvin
[22:00] <MFen> when i provision a new server, the first thing i want to do is tell dpkg STOP ASKING ME ABOUT POSTFIX
[22:00] <ikonia> nice to know you lied about asking in the backtrack channel too
[22:00] <ikonia> MFen: thanks fofr that random pointless outburst, please don't do it again
[22:00] <woot-0854> lol @ bt
[22:01] <MFen> ikonia: so you don't know?
[22:01] <ikonia> MFen: don't know what ?
[22:01] <MFen> the answer to the question
[22:01] <Qalqi> why is 12.10 so unstable?
[22:01] <ikonia> MFen: you've not asked a question
[22:01] <ikonia> Qalqi: it's not,
[22:01] <llutz> MFen: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix -> "configure later"
[22:01] <ikonia> you've just ranted
[22:01] <ikonia> (unless I missed the question)
[22:02] <robotti^> Qalqi: how it is unstable?
[22:02] <MFen> ikonia: it was above. (not very far above.)
[22:02] <MFen> llutz: dpkg-reconfigure is too late. i want this done before i even attempt to install postfix. i want to never see that prompt, even once
[22:02] <oldgettingsomewh> while on the postfix subject what would be best small email program for a linux server?
[22:02] <ikonia> MFen: it's asking you to configure postfix during the upgrade as it needs a response
[22:03] <ikonia> oldgettingsomewh: personal choice, pick what you like
[22:03] <llutz> oldgettingsomewh: mail
[22:03] <robert_> Hi! All.
[22:03] <woot-0854> yo robert_
[22:03] <MFen> ikonia: it doesn't. postfix has a config file already. i set it up by hand during install. by even asking me that question, postfix is asking me whether i want to ruin my handmade config file
[22:03] <oldgettingsomewh> ikonia what would you use?
[22:03] <bibinou> hi guys I usually do `du -sh * | sort -h` to sort by file size in precise
[22:04] <bibinou> but I have a lucid machine here and it says the sort -h option do not exist
[22:04] <ikonia> MFen: so answer "no"
[22:04] <votz> ikonia: Running patch with --verbose doesn't highlight anything useful. I'm at a loss as to why some things aren't being patched. Patches for netcat.c and other unpatched files reside in the diff. Example: http://pastie.org/private/vphjh2erh7wn2db6hc15q
[22:04] <woot-0854> bibinou: you can also right click the empty spots in nautilus
[22:04] <MFen> ikonia: "no" isn't even an answer to the prompt, but the prompt itself is the problem
[22:04] <bibinou> do you CLI wiz know if that was added recently ?
[22:04] <ikonia> MFen: it wants you to answer
[22:04] <MFen> is there a general way to configure your system so interactive prompts are never shown
[22:04] <ikonia> MFen: your only real option is to use response files
[22:05] <MFen> ah, there we go. how do i use response files?
[22:05] <bibinou> woot : yeah I want a list of files in the directory sorted by file size
[22:05] <Melvin> ikonia which IRC client must i use?
[22:05] <ikonia> Melvin: anyone you want
[22:05] <ikonia> Melvin: I've not done it for a long time
[22:05] <ikonia> Melvin: sorry that wasn't for you
[22:05] <remix_tj> hi, anyone has installed correctly skype from repository on precise 64bit? i continue getting failed depencencies about multiarch
[22:05] <bibinou> woot-0854: not the size of this dir
[22:05] <ikonia> MFen: I've not done it for a long time, but that's what you need
[22:05] <woot-0854> bibinou: @ / ?
[22:05] <Melvin> ikonia I''m on winXP. so which one? :1
[22:05] <Guest26760> Hi! All.
[22:05] <ikonia> Melvin: anyone you want
[22:06] <woot-0854> bibinou: you use gparted?
[22:06] <Guest26760> I just installed UBUNTU STUDIO.
[22:06] <MFen> ikonia: thanks! i google now.
[22:07] <maslo> how would I store
[22:07] <maslo> hddmax=`df -h | grep /dev/simfs | awk {'print $2'}` without it executing the result as a command?
[22:07] <chaingun> Is Melvin still in here?
[22:07] <Melvin> chaingun yeah:/
[22:07] <bibinou> woot-0854: not installed but you can do that with gparted ?
[22:07] <ikonia> chaingun: he's using backtrack so I suggest joinining him in #backtrack-linux if you want to help him
[22:07] <chaingun> Did you get that driver installed?
[22:08] <chaingun> ikonia: oh
[22:08] <Melvin> ikonia I have pidgin. never knew i could integrate to it! thanks a ton for everything! will remember! \m/
[22:08] <Melvin> chaingun no. i'm supposed to hit backtrack ://
[22:09] <MFen> ikonia: looks like it's actually debconf-set-selections that i want! http://serverfault.com/questions/228266/how-do-i-generate-a-response-file-to-be-used-with-apt-get-or-aptitude
[22:09] <MFen> but "response files" led me there so thanks again
[22:09] <woot-0854> bibinou: you still there?
[22:09] <Melvin> chaingun but backtrack's linux too. the poing being here: Unable to butkick LAN !
[22:09] <ikonia> Melvin: bravo
[22:10] <ikonia> MFen: bravo
[22:12] <votz> ikonia: Do you have any further ideas? I'm stumped. Could you try those 5 lines yourself and see if you can reproduce the problem?
[22:12] <ikonia> votz: I don't have the packages here as I'm no on ubuntu
[22:12] <ikonia> votz: if you tar them up for me and put them on a url I will
[22:12] <votz> ikonia: One moment. Thank you.
[22:13] <Chartax> Hi all, I have an issue with wifi
[22:13] <Chartax> It's got me at a loss.
[22:13] <Melvin> chaingun
[22:13] <woot-0854> lol k so I right clicked on the drive @ / and looked at propertys Idk y but it says I have 170 TB of info :D lol its a 140gb disk
[22:13] <ikonia> Melvin: enough now, take it to #backtrack-linux please.
[22:13] <Chartax> I can't even see it in lspci or lsusb -- is that even possible?
[22:13] <Melvin> ikonia relax. its not that now! :)
[22:14] <ikonia> Melvin: then take it to a private message, this is channel is for Ubuntu support/discussion
[22:14] <woot-0854> Mel armitage and gtfo w bt megasploit tracking stations.  learn and hide
[22:14] <ikonia> woot-0854: please stop such comments
[22:14] <woot-0854> aye
[22:15] <ikonia> thank you
[22:15] <votz> ikonia: http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id=g5d70ebd3fdae82e91706524bc6d1a2b4eaa926. That is the output of 'apt-get source netcat-openbsd'.
[22:16] <chaingun> Melvin: What's up?
[22:16] <ikonia> votz: getting it
[22:16] <chaingun> I'm in #backtrack-linux now too in case people are getting aggrivated
[22:16] <ikonia> chaingun: thank you
[22:17] <Chartax> So, are there any circumstances under which a Wi-fi device wouldn't show in lspci or lsusb?
[22:17] <Melvin> chaingun one moment !
[22:17] <woot-0854> Any new Unity developments?
[22:18] <ikonia> votz: have you tried manually applying each patch in debian/patches ?
[22:18] <Melvin> chartax what is it?
[22:18] <woot-0854> Gnome3 and Grub2 are both more epic than I know how to use yet
[22:19] <votz> ikonia: No, I have not.
[22:19] <Chartax> Melvin: My Wi-fi adapter which was previously working fine has ceased doing so
[22:19] <woot-0854> Chartax: ifconfig wlan0 down && iwconfig wlan0 mode managed && ifconfig wlan0 up
[22:19] <ikonia> votz: which file did you say wasn't getting patched
[22:20] <votz> ikonia: I'm positive netcat.c isn't. Maybe others.
[22:20] <Melvin> ran ifconfig? turned the wireless on? Check the BIOS if wireless adapter is enabled or disabled.
[22:20] <ikonia> votz: it's not getting patched
[22:20] <Chartax>  I tried putting it down, then up, but didn't try changing it to managed mode. It's definitely enabled and works under Win 7.
[22:21] <Melvin> Chartax ran ifconfig? turned the wireless on? Check the BIOS if wireless adapter is enabled or disabled.
[22:21] <votz> ikonia: Ya. I don't know why. If you look in the .diff file there are entries to patch netcat.c, ++++ netcat-openbsd-1.89/netcat.c	2008-01-22 16:17:25.000000000 -0500, etc
[22:22] <Melvin> chartax tell me everything. Ehts the issue. and output for the commands u ran..
[22:22] <Chartax> Melvin: I just tried to change it to mode managed and got an operation not permitted error.
[22:23] <veryhappy> hi guys i have here a computer with several problems, that i'd like to solve if possible: 1st: always when i try to launch a program in the fullscreen mode like supertux or a wine application then i only get the border of the window and then it hangs, 2nd: my system sometimes seems to hang a little bit while it tries to launch an application or when i'm using it, it anyhow seems to run a...
[22:23] <veryhappy> ...little bit slow sometimes like anything slows it down, 3rd: i had a wine application installed, a car race "trackmania" but it launched only once, after that it didn't launch anymore i don't know why, perhaps this problem can also be cleared, that would be cool, and 4th: isn't really an issue, i'd just like to have this on my pc running as well: i'd like to know if it makes sense to use...
[22:23] <ikonia> votz: may have it - hang on
[22:23] <veryhappy> ...compiz fusion when i want to have  this fire effects and the water ripples, still haven't have this
[22:23] <veryhappy> thank you.
[22:23] <FloodBot1> veryhappy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <Melvin> chartax on ubuntu right?
[22:23] <votz> ikonia: I'm not going anywhere.
[22:23] <Chartax> Yup.
[22:23] <woot-0853> sorry got dc'ed right after asking you a question Chartax
[22:23] <woot-0853> Chartax: what is iwconfig output?
[22:23] <Chartax> No problem woot-0853
[22:24] <woot-0853> Chartax: what mode?
[22:24] <woot-0853> sorry dont past outputs
[22:24] <woot-0853> paste
[22:24] <votz> ikonia: I think you might be on to something wrt debian/patches. A quick grep through debian/patches/ returns instances of 'netcat.c'.
[22:24] <Chartax> Woot: managed.
[22:24] <woot-0853> Chartax: is it working?
[22:24] <ikonia> votz: yes, that's where I'm looking too
[22:25] <Chartax> It tries to connect to a network I entered which previously worked, hangs for a bit, then requests authentication again
[22:25] <Chartax> It's wpa2-personal
[22:26] <pranith> I have horrible wifi download speeds. I am using a 802.11 g adapter. The wifi router is less than 10 ft away... help!
[22:26] <Melvin> chartax so you can FIND your adapter listed when u run  ifconfig huh!
[22:26] <ikonia> votz: look at Makefile.rej
[22:26] <woot-0853> Chartax: ok did you flip the switch to monitor,ad-hoc or master at all this session?
[22:26] <Chartax> No, not that I recall doing anything like that.
[22:27] <Chartax> Melvin: I see it in iwconfig but not ifconfig.
[22:27] <woot-0853> Chartax: ifconfig wlan0 up
[22:27] <reda> hay
[22:27] <votz> ikonia: I don't see it. I'm restarting from scratch to see if I can reproduce it.
[22:27] <woot-0853> sry hey reboot the pc if all eles fails
[22:28] <Chartax> woot- I put the WLAN back up, recreated the connection, same issue.
[22:28] <Chartax> Tries to connect for a bit then fails.
[22:28] <Chartax> Or, rather, requests auth,
[22:28] <Melvin> chartax ok. that means its getting switched off on a time interval as soon as it tries to connect.
[22:29] <Chartax> is that something I need to configure on the wireless AP?
[22:29] <votz> ikonia: I can't produce a Makefile.rej.  Do I need to change something on the wireless router?
[22:31] <Chartax> I could try taking it off wpa2 but I rather wouldn't
[22:31] <ikonia> from the source root -Np1 -i
[22:31] <Melvin> chartax whats ur make? the adapter.
[22:32] <Chartax> In the PC, I amnt completely positive since there's multiple conflicting sources. I think it's a Ralink
[22:32] <Fuzzles> in ubuntu 12.10 how do i find out in my graphics are install correctly?
[22:32] <Chartax> It won't show in lspci or lsusb though, which I find is odd
[22:33] <votz> ikonia: Does applying each of those patches in the source root solve the problem
[22:33] <pranith> I have horrible wifi download speeds. I am using a 802.11 g adapter. The wifi router is less than 10 ft away... help!
[22:33] <Melvin> chartax not showing in lspci as "network controller"?? hocome!
[22:33] <ikonia> votz: no, but it does show the failed hunks
[22:33] <ikonia> votz: "connect-timeout.patch" appears to be the problem one
[22:34] <Chartax> Melvin: I amnt sure, I see my Ethernet card but not the wireless.
[22:34] <escott> Fuzzles, software souces now has the functionality of jockey. but you can also look at glxinfo | grep -i renderer
[22:34] <Chartax> Pranith: Change your wifi broadcast channel
[22:34] <votz> ikonia: What loop did you use to apply the patches? Can you paste it here. I want to run exactly what you did.
[22:34] <Fuzzles> escott, jockey?
[22:34] <ikonia> votz: just applied them one at a time
[22:34] <ikonia> didn't look as I didn't have the correct order
[22:35] <ikonia> s/look/loop
[22:35] <sander_> Why does my desktop go into initramfs with the message ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid... does not exist.. WHen I push control-alt-tab on bootup, it works tho.
[22:35] <john1819> eagle1
[22:35] <Melvin> chartax try ifconfig wlan0 up
[22:36] <Chartax> Melvin: it was already up, trying to reconnect now though.
[22:36] <sander_> I've checked the uuid number with blkid, and its there.
[22:36] <Melvin> chartax ralink realtek.. what version>
[22:36] <ikonia> votz: try this
[22:36] <Fuzzles> escott, whats jockey?
[22:36] <escott> sander_, what does ctrl-alt-tab do? and when are you pressing it?
[22:36] <escott> Fuzzles, its something you dont have so don't worry about it
[22:37] <ikonia> move the connect-timeout.patch to the level above the source root - and do a patch -Np0 -i connect-timeout.patch
[22:37] <ikonia> votz: it then applies and patches the netcat.c patch
[22:37] <escott> Fuzzles, your answers are software-sources or glxinfo | grep -i renderer
[22:37] <sander_> escott, I just got told here earlier to press it.. not sure what it does really.. I'm pressing it right after the bios.
[22:37] <Chartax> Melvin: I think the model number is either RT3070 or RT5370, but I amnt positive
[22:37] <escott> sander_, after the bios but before grub?
[22:37] <Chartax> Hard
[22:37] <Chartax> Hard to tell without lspci or lsusb details
[22:38] <Fuzzles> escott, so how do i check that when i installed ubuntu 12.10 that my grpahics card is working auto
[22:38] <ikonia> votz: looks like that diff has a bug in it as a master patch
[22:38] <escott> sander_, i guess im wondering why ctrl-alt-tab and not ctrl-alt-6 or shift-tab or any other random combination of keys
[22:38] <ikonia> votz: the patches work one at a time
[22:38] <votz> ikonia: Applying them one at a time by hand yields hunk failed errors. Is there a way to determine the order in which I should apply these patches?
[22:38] <sander_> escott, the ubuntu screen is there.. with the timebar.
[22:38] <votz> Or just use -N as you did above.
[22:38] <escott> Fuzzles, open a terminal and type in "glxinfo | grep -i renderer"
[22:38] <escott> sander_, so at plymouth
[22:39] <sander_> escott, maybe it's tab+control. or tab+alt.. I don't remember.
[22:39] <ikonia> votz: normally the patches are numbered to give you an idea, eg: 01-patch-blah.patch, 02-patch-blah-blit.patch
[22:39] <ikonia> votz: looks like a sloppy build
[22:39] <Melvin> chartax /etc/init.d/network-manager restart
[22:39] <sander_> escott, I just pushed them all.. and I got back in, phew!.
[22:39] <sander_> escott, but I want to get rid of that when it boots.
[22:39] <votz> ikonia: Ah! The order is in the file debian/patches/series.
[22:40] <ikonia> votz: good spot
[22:40] <escott> sander_, i cant imagine what that key would be doing. there really isnt anything in the early boot that listens for keypresses. im guessing the act of pressing the key is causing just enough delay to avoid some kind of race condition in device enumeration... but it sounds odd. I would try one of the kernel rootwait argumenet
[22:40] <Chartax> Melvin: just tried that, same issue
[22:40] <votz> Going to start over from scratch and follow series' order. See if that works.
[22:41] <escott> sander_, so in /etc/default/grub on the CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT add "rootdelay=5"
[22:41] <ikonia> votz: should do, I've just been working through them one at a time
[22:41] <SunMoonStar> hi guys
[22:41] <Melvin> chartax if we assume your wireless adapter is switching off at times, try this sudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[22:41] <SunMoonStar> I'm getting an error when I do sudo apt-get update
[22:42] <jCuber> SunMoonStar: Have you added any software sources?
[22:42] <Melvin> chartax
[22:42] <Melvin> chartax sleep 10
[22:42] <SunMoonStar> jCuber: no
[22:42] <Melvin> chartax
[22:42] <SunMoonStar> jCuber: its weird, it gets a lot of files and then some 404s
[22:42] <Melvin> chartax and then enter iwconfig wlan0 power off
[22:42] <jCuber> SunMoonStar: is your PC
[22:43] <jCuber> SunMoonStar: Connected to the internet
[22:43] <SunMoonStar> yes im on here :)
[22:43] <Chartax> Did you want me to do the gedit thing first?
[22:43] <sander_> escott, correct?: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash rootdelay=5"
[22:43] <SolarisBoy> which ones are getting 404? can you reach the url in a browser?
[22:43] <veryhappy> nobody you can send me an answer related to my issues?
[22:43] <escott> sander_, sure. then sudo update-grub
[22:43] <john1819> hey can anyone recomend a good ch. to start back in friendly irc. its been 10 years of so.
[22:44] <sander_> escott, thanks, then i'll reboot and try it. :-)
[22:44] <SunMoonStar> jCuber: for some reason it cuts off some of the log in the terminal but shows this bit: http://pastebin.com/bTzwJ7Vp
[22:45] <Chartax> Marvin: I powered off wlan0 now.
[22:45] <tpumma> how come when using "less" cmd to view .php file, everything is one line? not easy to view. what's the best way to view .php from terminal?
[22:45] <Chartax> tpumma: why not nano?
[22:45] <kvothetech> tpumma: because you don't have any newlines probably
[22:45] <SolarisBoy> tpumma: are there new lines in the file or is it all on one line?
[22:45] <gordonjcp> tpumma: because your .php file hasn't got any line breaks
[22:45] <jCuber> veryhappy: What is the problem?
[22:45] <Melvin> chartax power it on and find the latest driver for your card!
[22:45] <sander_> escott, thanks. it worked :-)
[22:46] <SolarisBoy> smak the php dude up
[22:46] <yeehi> how unstable are the 13.04 daily builds at the moment - I really haven't been having success with them
[22:46] <gordonjcp> also, PHP is horrible
[22:46] <wyclif> tpumma: try using vi or vim
[22:46] <tpumma> Chartax: nano much better!
[22:46] <SolarisBoy> gordonjcp: word
[22:46] <tpumma> thanks
[22:46] <jCuber> SunMoonStar: Try going to those addresses on your browser
[22:46] <wyclif> gordonjcp: Actually, nope.
[22:46] <escott> sander_, given how tight your race condition is you could probably drop to rootdelay=1 if those 4 seconds are important to you
[22:46] <wyclif> gordonjcp: it really depends on who is writing it and what PHP
[22:46] <SolarisBoy> php sawks
[22:47] <SunMoonStar> wyclif: not found page comes up
[22:47] <SunMoonStar> wyclif: maybe it's a problem on ubuntu server end?
[22:47] <wyclif> gordonjcp: PHP 5.4 is a perfectly serviceable web language
[22:47] <Chartax> Melvin: I already tried the latest drivers, but I have many problems with them
[22:47]  * SolarisBoy laughing at that one
[22:47] <Chartax> It would seem that Ralink released new drivers today
[22:47] <SunMoonStar> like this one for example http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages
[22:47] <wyclif> gordonjcp: lots of improvements. Don't forget, you can write shit code in any language, my friend
[22:47] <SolarisBoy> php is broken
[22:47] <Chartax> The link is actually broken and points to a 0 byte file
[22:47] <sander_> escott, pretty quick now. :-)
[22:47] <ikonia> !language | wyclif
[22:47] <gordonjcp> wyclif: have you ever looked inside PHP?
[22:48] <SolarisBoy> its a hack
[22:48] <john1819> Sorry for the intrusion folks nite
[22:48] <tpumma> SolarisBoy: there are new lines in file but less or vim shows everything as one line.
[22:48] <SunMoonStar> are you guys able to get this page, or is it just me? http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages
[22:48] <escott> sander_, its just really strange.. you must have a race that is only a few microseconds... otherwise a keyboard interrupt isn't going to do anything useful
[22:48] <wyclif> http://www.phptherightway.com/
[22:48] <SolarisBoy> smh
[22:48] <SolarisBoy> there is no right php
[22:48] <ikonia> this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[22:48] <wyclif> gordonjcp: I've done a ton of work in PHP. Yes.
[22:48] <jCuber> john1819: What exactly do you mean by "ch"?
[22:49] <mrwhistler> Hi. how can I prevent a user from changing his/her password?
[22:49] <SolarisBoy> confusing business logic with ui meh
[22:49] <gordonjcp> wyclif: actually on the PHP code itself?
[22:49] <tpumma> wyclif: i'd rather use vim but everything is showing up as one line when viewing .php
[22:49] <sander_> escott, so you think I should just try for the curiosity of it.. to make it 1 second?
[22:49] <escott> mrwhistler, change it to something he doesn't know
[22:49] <Eighteens> what would cause ubuntu 10.04 to get a way slower test reading on transfer rates on both lan, and internet versus, a windows computer
[22:49] <wyclif> gordonjcp: YES.
[22:49] <gordonjcp> tpumma: it sounds like your .php file has no line breaks in it
[22:49] <gordonjcp> wyclif: awful, isn't it?
[22:49] <escott> mrwhistler, remove the passwd utility or mark it as non-suid
[22:49] <ikonia> Eighteens: a poor propritary network card driver on linux
[22:49] <Chartax> Eighteens: network drivers
[22:49] <SunMoonStar> Hi guys, my apt-get update wasn't able to fetch this url among others. Can you guys tell me if you are able to fetch it, or do you get a 404? http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages
[22:49] <mrwhistler> escott: and just allow automatic login?
[22:49] <bekks> gordonjcp: It's a oneliner :D
[22:49] <SolarisBoy> tpumma: you can print line breaks and such characters in vim to ensure but like they said
[22:49] <ikonia> or just set a password policy of -1
[22:49] <SolarisBoy> sounds like there are no line breaks
[22:49] <votz> ikonia: Ha! So close. netcat.c:957:55: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘DEBIAN_VERSION’. This is on Ubuntu, too. I think I can just remove that...
[22:50] <gordonjcp> tpumma: can you upload the offending file somewhere?
[22:50] <Eighteens> the computer windows gets 33mbps on speedtest, and the ubuntu computer gets 3.1mbs
[22:50] <ikonia> votz: looks like it
[22:50] <wyclif> I really don't care. The *NIX way is "the right tool for the job." PHP is the right tool for some jobs. So in my professional opinion, I don't pay any attention to the "PHP Sucks" n00b stuff.
[22:50] <InspectorCluseau> http://whohasthefastestcomputer.com/flopsmeter/
[22:50] <SolarisBoy> it does suck
[22:50] <muelli> I'd like to see that job...
[22:50] <SolarisBoy> lol
[22:50] <Melvin> chartax can u paste the output and let me know!
[22:50] <votz> ikonia: Boom. When I remove DEBIAN_VERSION it compiles on Ubuntu. Next - port to the other linux distro.
[22:50] <escott> sander_, if you are really curious you can start building your own kernels and bisect back to the change that caused this. depends on how much you care and how much your time is worth.... when you spend days trying to figure out what happens in a millisecond... that makes you a kernel developer i guess
[22:50] <votz> ikonia: Thank you so very much for your help, input, and time.
[22:50] <Chartax> Me
[22:50] <wyclif> http://www.phptherightway.com/
[22:50] <SolarisBoy> whats php doing that any other language can't do?
[22:50] <votz> I owe you a beer.
[22:51] <SolarisBoy> and on top of that hacking it's way about doing it..
[22:51] <ikonia> votz: nice job, you are more than welcome
[22:51] <Chartax> Melvin: sorry, I replied but it got lost in this swarm of text
[22:51] <ikonia> wyclif: you've already posted that- please stop, this channels isn't for the php argument
[22:51] <escott> mrwhistler, it seems a weird thing to be doing, and isn't entirely supported. why do you want to do this?
[22:51] <Melvin> chartax use pastebin or ubuntupastebin
[22:51] <Chartax> I tried to install the latest driver and ir didn't
[22:51] <gordonjcp> wyclif: yeah, so I'm kind of going on the whole "PHP sucks" n00b stuff based on my notes going back to php-fi
[22:51] <Chartax> Seem to work great
[22:51] <wyclif> ikonia: then stop arguing about PHP!
[22:51] <SunMoonStar> wyclif: can you try that url?
[22:51] <ikonia> wyclif: I'm not
[22:51] <mrwhistler> BC, I have a computer that will be used by lots of people all using a "guest" account of sorts
[22:52] <tpumma> gordonjcp: it has line breaks. nano can view all the line breaks but not vim or less
[22:52] <gordonjcp> wyclif: admittedly I've only been using PHP *seriously* since PHP2 was current
[22:52] <escott> mrwhistler, so what you SHOULD be doing is regenerating that account every time they logout
[22:52] <wyclif> see, here's the thing. I don't do programming language religion. You'll have to do that without me. But thanks for trying.
[22:52] <Melvin> chartax run the ifconfig, iwconfig and paste them in pastebin
[22:52] <gordonjcp> tpumma: then it may have Windows line breaks - do you see lots of "^M" in it?
[22:52] <veryhappy> jCuber: http://pastebin.com/0fKzFkLg
[22:52] <SunMoonStar> Melvin: can you try the URL?
[22:52] <SolarisBoy> tpumma: was the file created on a diff OS?
[22:52] <Chartax> One sec Melvin - gonna put it on eth0 so I can get net
[22:52] <escott> mrwhistler, otherwise one malicious user can leave a "userkit" behind to steal the next users passwords or files
[22:52] <sander_> escott, it's probably fixed in a newer version of ubuntu.
[22:53] <wyclif> SunMoonStar: yes. try it in gedit. or vi. or vim
[22:53] <sander_> i'm running 2.6.34
[22:53] <SunMoonStar> wyclif: huh?
[22:53] <mrwhistler> escott: how does one control that, is there some folder that i can put scripts in that are executed on logout?
[22:53] <SolarisBoy> yes
[22:53] <SunMoonStar> wyclif: here's my message from before: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages
[22:53] <SunMoonStar> er
[22:53] <SunMoonStar> Hi guys, my apt-get update wasn't able to fetch this url among others. Can you guys tell me if you are able to fetch it, or do you get a 404? http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages
[22:53] <escott> mrwhistler, various ways... if the machine is sitting out in the open (ie no physical control) you need to configure a pxe boot, and just set the thing up to reboot on logout
[22:54] <mrwhistler> escott:without sudo how would they install such a user kit?
[22:54] <somsip> SunMoonStar: 404 here
[22:54] <Orange_> Hi guys; Im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 64 bit from a live usb stick, but when I try to boot I get the message "kernel panic not syncing out of memory and no killable process" and a call trace.  Not sure if it is worth to mention, but I had a failed win 7 installation just before trying the liv
[22:54] <wyclif> SunMoonStar: 404 Error
[22:54] <SunMoonStar> somsip: if you do a sudo apt-get update do you get errors?
[22:54] <mrwhistler> escott: it will be a VM on a windows box
[22:54] <SunMoonStar> wyclif: thanks
[22:54] <somsip> SunMoonStar: I probably don't use the source that you do
[22:54] <escott> mrwhistler, b/c with physical access they can get root and leave rootkits behind. otherwise I could just install a firefox plugin to the user profile and have that plugin send me their passwords
[22:54] <Melvin> Chartax also hit "lshw -class network"
[22:55] <SunMoonStar> somsip: maybe i have a problem with my source? how can i check?
[22:55] <Jordan_U> Orange_: Can you try running memtest?
[22:55] <escott> mrwhistler, then that is very easy. configure the VM server to clone the image before starting it, and then destroy the image on shutdown
[22:55] <somsip> SunMoonStar: SunMoonStar http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[22:55] <mrwhistler> escott: wonder if that is possible on vmware player
[22:56] <tpumma> gordonjcp: i see "^M". lots of it
[22:56] <Orange_> Jordan_U: Im starting one now from the bios
[22:56] <escott> mrwhistler, i dont know. keep in mind if they have physical access to the machine then they have control (no matter what OS is running)
[22:56] <dr_willis> dont some of the VM's have some 'copy on write' feautre where any changes get saved to a file. so you remove that file and the vm is back to original>
[22:57] <tpumma> SolarisBoy: .php was from windows and linux both
[22:57] <jCuber> veryhappy: 1.Probably just a problem with Wine. 2. I think all computers have a little lag. Make sure you've installed your GPU drivers
[22:57] <escott> mrwhistler, so im not sure how windows is secured here, but if you could secure against access to the host OS and just need to secure the VM image you can do lots of stuff. store a pristine copy remotely and swap it out between sessions
[22:57] <gordonjcp> tpumma: okay, then you have DOS-like line endings
[22:57] <Orange_> Jordan_U: though it is worth to say that the pc was in use before I attempted to reinstall the OSs and I did not notice any memory problem
[22:57] <mrwhistler> escott: i think that is the tree to bark up
[22:57] <Orange_> Jordan_U: the bios memory test pass
[22:57] <SolarisBoy> can open vim and try :set list
[22:57] <mrwhistler> thanks
[22:58] <SolarisBoy> it will show all the characters in the file including \n \r etc
[22:58] <escott> mrwhistler, enterprise vms certainly have what dr_willis is talking about (COW and all) but probably not vmware player. vmware player probably just supports a full clone when the guest is off
[22:59] <mrwhistler> its possible i can deploy workstation
[22:59] <gordonjcp> tpumma: open the file in vi/vim and try something like ":%s/<CTRL-V><CTRL-M>//g
[22:59] <sianhulo> hey guys, I was wondering if there's a way to manage how much ram goes to my intel g41(itnegrated gpu?
[22:59] <gordonjcp> tpumma: without the leading quote
[22:59] <escott> mrwhistler, "deploy" sounds like what you want
[22:59] <escott> sianhulo, i dont think so
[22:59] <jCuber> veryhappy: 3. Once again, probably a problem with Wine. Check out the WineHQ if anybody has similar issurs or solutions
[22:59] <gordonjcp> tpumma: when you type "<CTRL-V><CTRL-M>" it should show up as "^M" and highlighted
[22:59] <SunMoonStar> anyone here running 12.10?
[22:59] <Chartax> Melvin: you still here?
[22:59] <Melvin> chartax yeah
[23:00] <gordonjcp> !anyone | SunMoonStar
[23:00] <Chartax> Sorry about the delay: had to move my extremely heavy PC :p
[23:00] <Melvin> chartax the outputs!!
[23:00] <mrwhistler> escott: hell yea
[23:00] <sianhulo> escott, then... is there a way to know how much is reciving right now?
[23:00] <Melvin> Chartax No problemo!!
[23:00] <escott> sianhulo, check dmesg to see how the dma ranges are setup
[23:00] <SunMoonStar> Does anyone here run 12.10 and have problems with sudo apt-get update right this moment
[23:01] <Melvin> sunmoonstar what problems?
[23:01] <jCuber> veryhappy: 4. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/fire-and-water-effect-in-compiz-fusion-599364/
[23:01] <sianhulo> SunMoonStar, I have no problems at all, a workaround might be isntall aptitude
[23:01] <SunMoonStar> failed to fetch files problems
[23:01] <gordonjcp> SunMoonStar: you may have local connection problems
[23:01] <SunMoonStar> I don't as I'm on here on the problem computer
[23:02] <softcoder> ok not sure if its an ubuntu issue (unity) or grpahics driver or something else but...
[23:02] <softcoder> i'm on 12.10 64 bit, nvidia card using properitary drivers
[23:02] <Melvin> sunmoonstar reinstall software center and see.
[23:02] <softcoder> ONLY since upgrading from 12.04 my twinview randomly gets hosed (every day and its driving me nuts)
[23:02] <sianhulo> escott, i ran dmesg |grep -i agp and it seems it has 256m
[23:02] <Chartax_> Marvin: On the PC with the issue now.
[23:03] <softcoder> hosed == resolution and monitor placement suddenly change and my windows go all over the place
[23:03] <tpumma> gordonjcp: it says pattern not found. I'll check back later to see how to get around the dos line break
[23:03] <Chartax_> Here's the ifconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361451/
[23:03] <Orange_> Jordan_U: any idea of what could be the problem? Im running a hard disk test now
[23:03] <softcoder> i tried updating to latest stable nvidia drivers and same issue
[23:03] <softcoder> never had this problem is previous version of ubu (been using since 8.x)
[23:04] <Chartax_> Here's iwconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361453/
[23:04] <gordonjcp> tpumma: there's a program called something like dos2unix
[23:04] <softcoder> any help or ideas is appreciated
[23:04] <Melvin> sunmoonstar try this ---find /etc/apt -name '*.list' -exec bash -c 'echo -e "\n$1\n"; cat -n "$1"' _ '{}' \;---
[23:04] <gordonjcp> tpumma: did you type the ^M as Control-V followed by Control-M like I said?
[23:04] <SunMoonStar> Melvin: problem:
[23:04] <SunMoonStar> http://pastebin.com/nGshSa7z
[23:04] <ikonia> Melvin: where are you getting this stuff from ?
[23:06] <gapert> via pastebin.com kom ik ook zonder probreblemen op piratebay
[23:06] <veryhappy> jCuber: i read your answers, but then i can't understand that i get only a border when i try to launch supertux in fullscreen mode or a higer resolution, as this is not a wine program, but a native program
[23:06] <Orange_> does anyone else has any hint why I get the message "kernel panic not syncing out of memory and no killable process" and a call trace when trying to boot from 12.04 64 bit live disk.  Not sure if it is worth to mention, but I had a failed win 7 installation just before trying the live cd
[23:06] <SunMoonStar> if anyone can help with that or even a cheap shot the help would be appreciated
[23:07] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: your file system is mounted read only
[23:07] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: it's that simple
[23:07] <SunMoonStar> ikonia: it's maybe simple to you.. :) how do I fix it..?
[23:07] <escott> Orange_, probably a buggy hardware device requesting an enormouse DMA range. or something with the system where it can't find the ram
[23:07] <tpumma> gordonjcp: yeah ^M like u said went away but no line breaks can is displayed. still all in one line.
[23:08] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: either a.) reboot - look for a message to see if it mounts read only b.) try to force a remount with read/write permissions
[23:08] <Melvin> sunmoonstar the issue could be in the sources.list file.. A wrong entry i believe. you got to remove one term vch says "independent", from the list.
[23:08] <daveinlv> I recently did a clean install of 12.04 64bit and have an issue with Audacious. It will not play any shoutcast music streams, but does play MP3 files on the machine. I've installed all of the codecs from medibuntu, and a package from the webupd8 ppa entitled "audacious-plugins". Rhythmbox on the same machine plays every shoutcast mp3 stream I've thrown at it, but I really don't care to use that for listening to streams. I know Ubuntu
[23:08] <daveinlv> is missing a lot of codecs because of patents, but I thought the medibuntu cache fixed those issues.. Help?
[23:08] <softcoder> anyone hear me or able to help?
[23:08] <veryhappy> SunMoonStar: your system seems to be mounted only in read-only mode, check that with the mount command, type mound , if you see a "ro" behind / then it's mounted only read-only
[23:08] <Orange_> escott, any idea of a work around for it?
[23:08] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: poeple can here you
[23:08] <ikonia> oops
[23:08] <ikonia> softcoder: people can hear you
[23:09] <jrib> softcoder: please just ask your question on a single line.  Yes, we can read what you say.  If someone can help, they will reply to you
[23:09] <escott> Orange_, pull hardware and see if it gets better? try a different kernel. look through the rest of the kernel output in case there is anything useful in it. im assuming this is happening before init starts
[23:09] <gordonjcp> tpumma: well, that's your problem right enough; you need to convert the ^Ms to proper line breaks
[23:09] <SunMoonStar> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/WhHUur5w
[23:09] <Chartax_> daveinlv, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[23:09] <gordonjcp> tpumma: look at DOS to Unix conversion
[23:09] <daveinlv> I think so.. will check..
[23:09] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: /dev/sda4 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[23:10] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: your / file system (that holds /var has errors so has gone into read only
[23:10] <tpumma> gordonjcp: ok. i'll try to install dos2unix and run it on .php so i can view it right in vim
[23:10] <Orange_> escott, it is before the start. it is a laptop, so i guess I cant remove any hardware, but Ill try with 12.04 32 bit
[23:10] <tpumma> exit
[23:10] <SunMoonStar> ikonia: Can you give me explicit instructions? Should I just restart first?
[23:11] <blackshirt> hello,good morning
[23:11] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: if you reboot it will probably try to run an fsck and fix it
[23:11] <escott> Orange_, what is this laptop? anything particularly strange with it? or do you not know what hardware it has
[23:11] <SunMoonStar> ikonia ok I will go restart, thank you
[23:11] <blackshirt> i'm using vbox to setup server, what the best networking mode for them ??
[23:11] <daveinlv> chartax_  According to synaptic, I have..
[23:12] <Chartax_> daveinlv, the fact that RhythmBox can handle them, but Audacious can't suggests it's an issue with Audacious, rather than the codec
[23:12] <Orange_> escott, it is a hp pavilion dm 3. I was running ubuntu 10 before and it was ok. Now with the 12.04 32 bit live usb it is booting
[23:12] <Chartax_> I could be wrong, though
[23:12] <daveinlv> ok.. will check over there... ty!!
[23:13] <daveinlv> They all use the same mp3 codecs then I gather?
[23:13] <blackshirt> i'm using vbox to setup server, what the best networking mode for them ??
[23:13] <Orange_> escott, Ill try to proceed with the install
[23:14] <Chartax_> daveinlv, I believe so, but like I said, I could be completely wrong.
[23:15] <Melvin> chartax any luck?
[23:15] <KI4RO> .
[23:15] <daveinlv> I''ll try completely removing it and reinstalling.. havent tried that yet..
[23:15] <Chartax_> Melvin, I found the actual model of my card.
[23:15] <daveinlv> thanks, Chartax_
[23:15] <beandog> daveinlv: there's a couple of mp3 codecs you can use for playback
[23:15] <Melvin> chartax killer!
[23:15] <Chartax_> It's an RT2800
[23:15] <daveinlv> beandog: Oh?
[23:16] <beandog> daveinlv: there's lavc, lame, and ... I can't remember the other off the top of my head
[23:16] <remsSs> bonjour
[23:16] <Melvin> chartax so u are able to connect to the wifi,but it holds only for 1 15sec interval huh??
[23:16] <beandog> daveinlv: what are you trying to do?
[23:16] <Chartax_> Melvin, it seems to try and authenticate, but fails without an error. Just returns to the authentication prompt.
[23:17] <daveinlv> beandog: what has me baffled is the fact that audacious plays local mp3 files just fine.. just won't play a standard http://server:port shoutcast url
[23:17] <beandog> daveinlv: oh okay, well it could be another codec from shoutcast
[23:17] <daveinlv> beandog: Oh? different from the decoder for local mp3 files?
[23:18] <WeThePeople> i burned 12.10 to dvd and it wont boot to 12.10 it just boots to grub menu, idk why??
[23:18] <beandog> daveinlv: no, I mean the shoutcast playlist may not be serving MP3
[23:18] <uabn93> does anyone know if deja-dup backs up hidden files. The program gives no option to see what was backed.
[23:18] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  you mean the cd boots to some grub: prompt? or what exactly? i dont think the dvd uses grub.
[23:19] <daveinlv> beandog.. I sure HOPE it is, as I run the shoutcast station that I'm trying to listen to.. in testing I tried others and they don't work either
[23:19] <Melvin> chartax its probably getting switched off! :/
[23:19] <beandog> daveinlv: wanna pm me the url?
[23:19] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, i burned 12.10 to dvd a iso.. when i put dvd into bay and change the boot order, the computer doesnt boot to 12.10 it goes to my main grub menu
[23:20] <Chartax_> Melvin: I'm going to try switching from WPA2 to something like WEP temporarily
[23:20] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  how did you burn it to dvd? what files do you see on the dvd?
[23:20] <Melvin> chartax do that until then.
[23:22] <Chartax_> Melvin: It doesn't prompt me for authentication now, it just continuously tries to connect with no success
[23:23] <Chartax_> Disregard: It just requested authentication again, after about 60 sec. of trying to connect
[23:23] <Melvin> chartax disable IPv6.
[23:23] <WeThePeople>  dr_willis, i will show you>>> http://imgh.us/desktop_2.png && http://imgh.us/desktop2_1.png
[23:23] <Melvin> chartax try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/127243/cant-stay-connected-to-wi-fi
[23:24] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  you could have just said it has a single big iso file on it.. ;)  You burnt it wrong..
[23:24] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, i did ??
[23:24] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  you need to burn it as an image, not a data file like you would do a bunch of jpegs ;)
[23:24] <WeThePeople> ahh
[23:24] <WeThePeople> ok
[23:24] <WeThePeople> thanks
[23:26] <Steevca> Can anyone help me install this theme ?  http://jurialmunkey.deviantart.com/art/Divergence-IV-quot-A-New-Hope-quot-183377193
[23:27] <ikonia> Steevca: the instructions are on the page
[23:27] <Steevca> Yes,but i can't install it. There is no install option in Apperance.
[23:28] <ikonia> Steevca: because it's meant for an older gnome version
[23:28] <ikonia> Steevca: "gnome gtk2"
[23:28] <Melvin> steevca the instructions are clearly sort on that very page!!
[23:29] <uabn93> does deja-dup back up hidden files?
[23:29] <Steevca> Ah,damn it,i missed that is for gtk2.
[23:29] <uabn93> the program hides a lot from you
[23:30] <Melvin> uabn93 YES!
[23:30] <escott> uabn93, there are other ways to backup... if you want help with some of those just ask
[23:31] <escott> uabn93, but i reached much the same conclusion about deja-dup and decided that wasn't the backup tool for me
[23:31] <uabn93> escott: what do you mean other ways? do you suggest another program?
[23:31] <escott> uabn93, i use rsync
[23:31] <escott> !backup | uabn93
[23:31] <Melvin> uabn93 it does back up by default. if u want to view those files, u can however enabk\le them!
[23:33] <Melvin> ikonia still wanna help?
[23:33] <ikonia> Melvin: help with what ?
[23:33] <seeqwell> What keeps shutting off my monitor and hard drive please.  I snapped this yesterday http://pastebin.com/pDx5xiGX
[23:33] <Melvin> ikonia thats just one linux configuration dude! S.O.S.
[23:33] <ikonia> Melvin: take it to #backtrack-linux
[23:34] <Melvin> ikonia i'm unable to create an account. so please cooperate!
[23:34] <escott> seeqwell, that doesn't seem helpful. the 81 on the 5th line means 81 seconds after boot. did the system reboot 81 seconds after boot?
[23:34] <uabn93> escott: i really only used deja because it supports incremental backups WITH compression
[23:34] <ikonia> Melvin: no
[23:34] <ikonia> Melvin: you ARE able to make an account, you re chosing not to
[23:35] <escott> uabn93, you can do the same with rsync but without the nasty tarballs
[23:35] <Melvin> ikonia I aint kidding. i''m unable to. assist me in creating one!
[23:35] <seeqwell> seems like when it crashed it deletes my log escott .  I lost that code you told me about to save logs before I hard shut down
[23:35] <escott> !reisub | seeqwell
[23:35] <ikonia> Melvin: ask in #freenode as you've been told in multiple channels
[23:35] <ikonia> Melvin: you're inability to follow instructions it's what's letting you down
[23:36] <escott> seeqwell, and its not deleting your logs... its never saving your logs
[23:36] <uabn93> escott: cool. ill check out grsync because i dont feel comfortable with the cli version yet
[23:36] <escott> uabn93, and unless you have lots of big text files im not sure what compression gets you. might be better to put it all on a filesystem that does compression
[23:37] <Melvin> ikonia if inability is the reason for someone to wander, run up close to them before they die by their thirst of seeking help.
[23:37] <seeqwell> ubuntu is junk.  I should go for Fedora core but I hate rpm.
[23:38] <ikonia> Melvin: please don't talk nonsense, people have helped you and pointed you at the right channels, follow the advice
[23:38] <holstein> seeqwell: the ubuntu community is great... if you like ubuntu or not
[23:38] <seeqwell> Right holstein
[23:38] <unrar> Hi
[23:38] <steven-> Hello
[23:39] <uabn93> escott: I see. All i have related to that are books but thats pdf not txt
[23:40] <escott> uabn93, i dont know what kind of compression ratios you will get with pdfs but its not going to be earth-shattering
[23:41] <uabn93> escott: okay. so it wouldnt do much for music and video files either?
[23:41] <Chartax> Melvin: I am just going to do a clean install. Managed to screw up my video card somehow :V
[23:41] <escott> uabn93, no
[23:42] <Chartax> Thank you very much for your help however.
[23:42] <escott> uabn93, unless you are storing your music as wav files :)
[23:42] <Melvin> chartax I'm sorry about it!
[23:42] <Chartax> Melvin: no worries, thank you so much for your time though, it is much appreciated.
[23:43] <Melvin> chartax can i see u in ubuntuforums now?? for a moment?
[23:43] <uabn93> escott: heh. I use flac but thats already compressed. i think i need to read up on compression
[23:43] <Chartax> I've never posted there yet - not even sure I have an account there, I
[23:43] <Chartax> I am literally a new Ubuntu user
[23:44] <Melvin> join in by typing "/j #ubuntuforums"
[23:44] <escott> uabn93, long and short is only the first compression is likely to be helpful... unless the first compression is very poor a subsequent compression wont do much
[23:44] <Chartax> Oh, an IRC channel, haha, sure. Sorry :p
[23:46] <uabn93> !sbackup
[23:47] <uabn93> escott: i appreciate your help
[23:51] <TomyLobo> nvidia-settings says i'm not using an nvidia driver. sudo nvidia-xconfig creates an xorg.conf that sets my X into 640x480. already tried getting the driver from nvidia.com
[23:51] <ikonia> bad call
[23:51] <TomyLobo> hmm?
[23:52] <TomyLobo> ikonia was that to me? if yes, what do you mean?
[23:52] <ikonia> trying to get the drivers from nvidia.com is a bad idea
[23:53] <TomyLobo> well the ones coming with ubuntu didnt work, so what else would i doß
[23:53] <TomyLobo> ?
[23:53] <ikonia> define didn't work
[23:53] <TomyLobo> nvidia-settings says i'm not using an nvidia driver. sudo nvidia-xconfig creates an xorg.conf that sets my X into 640x480.
[23:53] <TomyLobo> ^ = didn't work
[23:53] <ikonia> yes, that means "not using" not "didn't work"
[23:54] <ikonia> so you need to look at why they are not in use
[23:54] <ikonia> have you tried to install from nvidia.com ?
[23:54] <TomyLobo> yes
[23:54] <ikonia> then I won't help
[23:54] <TomyLobo> it made backups, so i guess i could uninstall it
[23:54] <ikonia> you can't uninstall it
[23:54] <bkc_> sure you can...
[23:54] <nicekiwi> can you force fullscreen apps to run in windowed mode with commandline params?
[23:54] <ikonia> you need to manually remove every object
[23:54] <TomyLobo> then reinstall the nvidia packages from ubuntu for good measure
[23:54] <ikonia> hence "bad idea"
[23:55] <ikonia> TomyLobo: it won't overwrite everything,
[23:55] <bkc_> ikonia: done it a million times...
[23:55] <ikonia> bkc_: great, walk TomyLobo through it
[23:56] <LordThumper> Hi
[23:56] <dandaman> herro
[23:56] <bkc_> TomyLobo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual :)
[23:56] <LordThumper> I have a weird issue when Ubuntu will only boot if there is a USB drive present
[23:56] <LordThumper> Any drive will do
[23:56] <LordThumper> What could be the issue?
[23:56] <bkc_> TomyLobo: and this for uninstallation https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual#Uninstalling_the_Driver
[23:56] <Jordan_U> LordThumper: What happens when you try to boot without a USB drive plugged in?
[23:57] <zvacet> LordThumper: did you install from usb
[23:57] <Jayflux> i have a core 2 duo T5500 laptop about to install ubuntu with 1GB ram. Will there be any difference between 64bit or 32?
[23:57] <delinquentme> so I'm trying to do something like this: $ ls db/migrate/*even*more* | gedit
[23:58] <TomyLobo> bkc_ that went through without a hitch, apart from some manual directory
[23:58] <delinquentme> in which a file is returned ... and I'd like to pipe that filename to have gedit open it..
[23:58] <Xabster> Hi, I'd like to simulate that I have a webcam plugged in and that it's currently receving a stream on my ubuntu 12.04 (because I dont have a webcam and I'm trying to develop some stuff) - is this possible ?
[23:58] <zvacet> Jayflux: i don´t think so but I can be wrong
[23:58] <ikonia> Xabster: no
[23:58] <zvacet> Jayflux: install 32 bit
[23:58] <Melvin> jayflux what is it/
[23:59] <Jayflux> ok zvacet cheers
[23:59] <escott> Jayflux, 64bit is a different instruction set and has more registers which is nice. there is a bit more memory overhead.... what would probably be best for you is the x32 ABI but thats only now in development
[23:59] <bkc_> Xabster: yes :)
[23:59] <Jordan_U> delinquentme: for file in db/migrate/*whatever*; do gedit "$file"; done
[23:59] <bkc_> ikonia: do you have any idea what you're talking about? ever? :)
[23:59] <Xabster> Xabster: maybe
[23:59] <Jayflux> escott its only going to be for web browsing mainly. So nothing strenuous
[23:59] <LordThumper> Jodan_U: I get a black screen with only the text "OK" visible on the right hand side
[23:59] <ikonia> bkc_: please, how do you simulate web cam hardware with proper even handling ?


[17:37] <penguin42> anyone have any thoughts on what to do with old Hardy bugs - it's LTS so server side is still in support; is it OK to close non-servery things?
[17:39] <IntuitiveNipple> penguin42: Not sure... is the LTS limited to just the server-seeded packages ?
[17:41] <penguin42> well, wiki.ubuntu.com says 'Hardy Heron 8.04 LTS April 24, 2008 Supported until April 2013 (Server)'
[17:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Yeah... was thinking of some of my own servers. They have packages on them that aren't in the server seeding
[17:43] <penguin42> sigh, and apport-cli is complaining 'the launchpadlib Python module is not installed' - but I have python-launchpadlib
[17:44] <IntuitiveNipple> On hardy?
[17:44] <penguin42> no, quantal
[17:44] <IntuitiveNipple> ahhh ok
[17:49] <penguin42> ah, this looks like it's bug 1023964
[17:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1023964 in apport "apport-collect has missing dependence: launchpadlib Python" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023964
[18:43] <penguin42> it's always kind of depressing when you triage one bug but end up filing or finding 2 more
[18:46] <penguin42> ooh, lp now show the bug you're duping to after you enter the number - I've wanted that for YEARS - thanks!
[19:16] <IntuitiveNipple> I know the bug-sprouting feeling ... hit that twice in the last week and ended up writing fixes for 5 packages!
[19:20] <penguin42> right, time to give up for the day - after having confirmed a 4 year old bug on Quantal - (bug 274767)
[19:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 274767 in gv "gv 'Open File' dialog not displaying files" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274767
[19:21] <penguin42> not that anyone uses gv any more
[19:22] <IntuitiveNipple> what is it? :p
[19:22] <penguin42> old school pdf/ps viewer
[19:22] <IntuitiveNipple> ahhhh
[19:23] <penguin42> used to use it a lot many many years ago, but hey it's old enough it's using libraries that don't do scroll wheel
[19:23] <penguin42> anyway
[20:12] <blkperl> Can someone mark bug 964989 with importance High, reasoning: "Renders essential features or functionality of the application or dependencies broken or ineffective"
[20:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 964989 in ganeti "Ganeti initialization fails because PyCurl is linked against GnuTLS" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/964989
[20:15] <IntuitiveNipple> blkperl: done
[20:17] <blkperl> IntuitiveNipple: thanks