[07:46] <akaihola> How to report inaccuracies on immutable wiki.ubuntu.com pages? Couldn't find guidelines for that on the WikiGuide or DocumentationTeam pages.
[07:47] <mdke> akaihola: what page is it?
[07:47] <akaihola> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze
[07:48] <mdke> akaihola: it's not immutable - you can login and edit it afaics
[07:48] <mdke> almost all pages on wiki.u.c can be edited by anyone, except for pages which are part of the wiki software itself (MoinMoin)
[07:48] <mdke> we don't really use access control as far as I know
[07:48] <akaihola> mdke: Oh sorry, I didn't notice I had been logged out.
[07:49] <mdke> np :)
[07:49] <akaihola> mdke: Anyway, I don't have sufficient knowledge to correct the page, need to discuss it first. Where?
[07:51] <mdke> akaihola: in this particular case, you should contact the X team who maintain that section of the wiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/SwatTeam
[07:51] <akaihola> mdke: Thanks!
[07:52] <mdke> no problem
[08:06] <vish> mdke: hi.. could you have a look at Bug 507788
[08:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 507788 in yelp "Help Documentation, TOC switches from left to right when user selects topic" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507788
[08:09] <vish> mdke: shaunm mentioned it is " not extremely difficult.  everything relevant is in xslt or css files" , but i'm not able to find why it does this :(
[08:29] <mdke> vish: will take a look
[08:30] <vish> thanks
[08:31] <mdke> vish: I don't know enough about yelp to fix this. Probably since the standard gnome approach is too use the TOC on the right, we should do the same with the index page, but the index page is heavily customised
[08:31] <mdke> vish: you'd need to dig around quite a lot in the yelp package in Ubuntu, and in particular the index page patch that we use
[08:32] <vish> mdke: ah , ok. thanks :)
[08:36] <mdke> sorry not to be more help
[08:37] <vish> np.. ;)


[04:17] <pitti> Bonjour
[04:17] <pitti> hm, things you do not want to see in the final days before release:
[04:17] <pitti> - Unity suddenly refusing to start for no apparent reason
[04:17]  * pitti running gnome-shell now
[04:26] <RAOF> pitti: !!!
[04:27] <pitti> RAOF: I guess I'll wait for didrocks to come online to debug it further
[04:28] <pitti> 3D is working, nux/unity_suppor_test gives thumbs up, but starting unity manually just fails to load the plugin without further debugging notices
[04:38] <tjaalton> hrm, looks like I have the same problem, no unityr
[04:38] <tjaalton> -r
[04:42] <pitti> compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: unityshell
[04:42] <pitti> compiz (core) - Error: Failed to load plugin: unityshell
[04:43] <pitti> the last unity upload was a week ago, though
[04:45] <pitti> tjaalton: I also tried in a guest session, to exclude local gsettings problems, same issue
[04:45] <pitti> for you as well?
[04:45] <tjaalton> pitti: yeah
[04:46] <duflu> pitti: Maybe unity --replace --verbose
[04:46] <duflu> To get better errors
[04:47] <tjaalton> huh, don't have /usr/bin/unity
[04:48] <tjaalton> not installed
[04:48] <tjaalton> wtf
[04:48] <duflu> tjaalton, pitti: Also check the unity package is installed. Sometimes conflicts/dependencies in pre-release packages cause it to go missing
[04:48] <duflu> Ah. Yes.
[04:49] <tjaalton> oh I had quantal-proposed enabled
[04:51] <pitti> duflu: yes, that's the first thing I tried; but /usr/lib/compiz/libunityshell.so exists
[04:51] <pitti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1274337/
[04:51] <pitti> dlopen failed: /usr/lib/compiz/libcore.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:52] <pitti> righht, that's apparently not being shipped
[04:52] <duflu> pitti: It says /usr/lib/compiz/libunityshell.so cannot load because you're missing libibus-1.0.so.0
[04:52] <pitti> but in the line afterwards it does start "core"
[04:52] <duflu> The core plugin never existed :)
[04:52] <duflu> libibus-1.0.so.0 is the problem
[04:52] <pitti> ooh
[04:53] <tjaalton> ok it's fine here again
[04:53] <pitti> thanks for pointing out
[04:53] <duflu> dlopen errors can be non-obvious. But missing libibus-1.0.so.0 is why unityshell.so cannot load
[04:53] <pitti> so that's a grave bug in Debian experimental's ibus package
[04:53] <pitti> libibus-1.0-0 ships /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libibus-1.0.so.5
[04:53]  * pitti files bug
[05:03] <TheMuso> I think I will wait till Monday to upgrade. :p
[05:08] <pitti> TheMuso: it's fine again, it was a local problem
[05:08] <TheMuso> Oh ok.
[05:09] <pitti> TheMuso: so the daily dist-upgrade exercise should be fine :)
[05:11] <didrocks> good morning
[05:13] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, ça va?
[05:13] <pitti> didrocks: you missed all the fun!
[05:15] <didrocks> guten morgen pitti!
[05:15] <didrocks> pitti: well, yesterday was fun for sure for me, and until 11h30PM :) not sure what else I missed? ;)
[05:15] <pitti> 2012-10-12 06:17:37     pitti   hm, things you do not want to see in the final d
[05:15] <pitti> ays before release:
[05:15] <pitti> 2012-10-12 06:17:46     pitti   - Unity suddenly refusing to start for no appare
[05:15] <pitti> nt reason
[05:15] <pitti> 2012-10-12 06:17:59      *      pitti running gnome-shell now
[05:16] <didrocks> urgh? well, I didn't update Unity yet :) what did you upgrade?
[05:16] <pitti> turned out it was a packaging bug in ibus' debian experimental version, I filed it as http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=690287
[05:16] <ubot2> Debian bug 690287 in libibus-1.0-0 "libibus-1.0-0 ships libibus-1.0.so.5" [Serious,Open]
[05:16] <didrocks> pitti: ahah, see stop blaming unity! :)
[05:16] <pitti> I need that version to build a current gnome-settings-daemon
[05:17] <didrocks> pitti: however, soon we'll have another unity upload for bug #1065652
[05:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1065652 in unity "unity dash should show legal disclaimer" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065652
[05:17] <didrocks> "soon" == today
[05:18] <didrocks> (weird that libibus doesn't impact gnome-shell, now that it's a hard dep on gnome)
[05:31] <pitti> does anyone happen to have an i386 precise build environment who could build a small program for me? (well, for an user really)
[05:31] <BigWhale> Good Morning ... ... someone should make Ubuntu font as default in LibreOffice. That would be awesome. :>
[05:33] <pitti> ah well, I'll use a PPA
[05:33] <didrocks> pitti: oh, I can find a netbook maybe
[05:35] <pitti> didrocks: thanks, nevermind; I'll upload to my PPA
[05:36] <didrocks> ok :)
[06:32] <jibel> good morning!
[06:33] <didrocks> salut jibel!
[06:34] <jibel> Salut didrocks!
[06:34] <jibel> Prêt pour un nouvel Unity aujourd'hui ?
[06:35] <jibel> à moins d'une semaine de la release c'est un bon timing ;)
[06:35] <didrocks> jibel: ouai, c'est la fête :-)
[06:35] <didrocks> jibel: tu as testé le ppa?
[06:35] <didrocks> (apparemment par contre, le texte donné par design n'a pas les bons liens par contre :/)
[06:35] <didrocks> donc j'attends les uk…
[06:36] <jibel> didrocks, non, pas encore, je n'ai reçu la demande de test que tardivement hier soir.
[06:36] <didrocks> ubuntu-desktop/ppa ;)
[06:36] <jibel> mais je vais m'empresser de la faire
[06:36] <didrocks> merci ;)
[06:36] <jibel> le
[06:44] <jibel> didrocks, what's the difference between unity from the PPA and from the archive apart from the legal notice ?
[06:45] <didrocks> jibel: nothing else
[06:45] <didrocks> I don't want to push more crack on the CD :)
[06:45] <jibel> didrocks, ok, thx
[06:54] <jibel> didrocks, when its written "first time you start unity, you see a "Legal notice" message in the home dash " should I see the text directly in the dash or just the link ?
[06:54] <didrocks> just the link
[06:55] <didrocks> "Mentions légales" in french
[06:55] <didrocks> it opens a webpage
[06:55] <jibel> ok
[06:57] <jibel> Will the notice be translated ?
[06:57] <didrocks> no, and there is no intent to do so
[06:57] <didrocks> I asked twice to legal about it
[06:57] <didrocks> and it's not important to them
[06:58] <didrocks> (I'm still personnaly in doubt that the CNILL would agree it's not important, but well… ;))
[07:11] <jibel> hm, I think it's mandatory to have the notice in French, it's a law from the mid-90's IIRC. When the radio stations had the obligation to broadcast a quota of French songs :(
[07:15] <didrocks> I agree, that's why I asked…
[07:58] <seb128> hey desktopers, happy friday!
[07:58] <seb128> how is everyone today?
[08:03] <pitti> bonjour seb128! Je suis heureux
[08:04] <didrocks> salut seb128 :)
[08:04] <jibel> bonjour seb128
[08:04] <seb128> pitti, bonjour ! félicitation pour tes tests gvfs
[08:04] <seb128> lut didrocks, jibel
[08:05] <pitti> seb128: merci beaucoup!
[08:05] <seb128> do we have any news from chrisccoulson today?
[08:05] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey
[08:30] <chrisccoulson> hi seb128, how are you?
[08:30] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey, I'm good thanks
[08:30] <seb128> chrisccoulson, how is your daughter doing?
[08:31] <chrisccoulson> yeah, she seems ok. her temperature is still very high, but they didn't seem too concerned at the hospital last night. they think it's probably just viral rather than anything to do with her hitting her head
[08:32] <seb128> ok, it's better than the other way around
[08:32] <seb128> did they keep her for the night just to watch how it's going?
[08:32] <chrisccoulson> no, we weren't there for very long really
[08:32] <chrisccoulson> which is good :)
[08:32] <seb128> yeah
[08:32] <seb128> I hope she gets better soon
[08:33] <seb128> did you manage to get some sleep?
[08:33] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[08:33] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i've had a bit of sleep. although, 2 very late nights in a row now
[08:33] <seb128> you should probably take it easy today, after all the stress of the week you deserve a quiet day ;-)
[09:27] <xnox> I don't like compiz eating 90% of my CPU =(
[09:31] <xnox> dconf reset -f /org/compiz/; setsid unity    <---- helped.
[09:31] <seb128> xnox, why? it's getting cold out there, it's trying to help you to keep warm
[09:31] <xnox> seb128: EDF is more efficient at heating me up than compiz ;-)
[09:32] <seb128> yeah, that's true ;-)
[09:39] <seb128> I wonder why tb doesn't have a contact picker when you write an email
[09:39] <seb128> that's something my mother struggle with every time since I changed their computer to tb
[09:40] <seb128> she called me again because she didn't find how to set the "to:"
[09:45] <xnox> seb128: there is. it's a pane on a side.
[09:47] <seb128> xnox, http://ubuntuone.com/51q91AUjCh8cb2CiAn1HYz ... where?
[09:47] <xnox> seb128: F9 or View->Contacts sidebar
[09:48] <xnox> seb128: and your ubuntuone link is 404
[09:48] <seb128> works here, weird
[09:49] <seb128> xnox, doh, thanks, not very discoverable, that should really have an ui bit to trigger it
[09:49] <seb128> the sidepane doesn't work well either for that
[09:49] <xnox> seb128: it's drag & drop. My dad managed to master it eventually....
[09:51] <seb128> xnox, yeah, users should have to master those sort of stuff, that should be easy enough to "just work"
[09:51] <seb128> evo get that one right, you just need to add a small "+" icon in the "To:" field or something
[09:51] <seb128> which triggers the picker
[09:53]  * xnox was confused why we moved to tb from evolution. meh i use thunderbird, gmail, notmuch/emacs for email.
[09:55] <didrocks> bryceh: hey
[09:55] <didrocks> bryceh: "
[09:55] <didrocks> This is a particular problem for quantal because Unity is enabling
[09:55] <didrocks> autohide by default, so the bug affects people by default and thus is
[09:55] <didrocks> quite severe. "
[09:55] <didrocks> no, it didn't change
[09:55] <didrocks> do you have autohide by default for your new users?
[10:10] <larsu> thunderbird messaging menu integration is broken for me :-/ Anyone else experiencing that?
[10:10] <seb128> larsu, how broken? wfm ... do you have a local extension taking over the system one again?
[10:11] <larsu> seb128, I don't think so, there should be a way to remove the extension if its in my profile, right?
[10:11] <larsu> messages simply don't show up
[10:11] <larsu> and the count on the launcher is gone, too
[10:11] <seb128> hum
[10:11] <seb128> now that you mention it, seems to be the case for me as well
[10:12] <larsu> :(
[10:12] <seb128> chrisccoulson, ^ regression from the recent 16/16.0.1 updates?
[10:12] <chrisccoulson> hmm, it's working ok here
[10:12] <seb128> doesn't work here
[10:12] <seb128> I just got a notify-osd new email bubble
[10:13] <seb128> but neither the launcher or indicator picked an update
[10:13] <seb128> e.g no count or blue icon
[10:13] <seb128> :-(
[10:13] <seb128> the extensions is showing enabled in the manager
[10:13] <larsu> the lib seems to work at least in part, though: unchecking "show in the messaging menu" removes thunderbird from the menu immediately
[10:15] <chrisccoulson> oh, actually, maybe it's not working here too
[10:16] <chrisccoulson> it's active in the menu, but i don't recall when i last saw any entries in there
[10:16] <larsu> yeah same here. I just send myself some emails, definitely doesn't show up
[10:16] <larsu> s/send/sent/
[10:16] <seb128> chrisccoulson, yeah, same, I didn't really miss not having them so I didn't notice until larsu mentioned yet
[10:17] <seb128> yet->it
[10:17] <chrisccoulson> Timestamp: 12/10/12 11:16:14
[10:17] <chrisccoulson> Error: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIMsgMessageService.streamMessage]"  nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame :: resource:///modules/gloda/mimemsg.js :: MsgHdrToMimeMessage :: line 232"  data: no]
[10:17] <chrisccoulson> Source File: resource:///modules/gloda/mimemsg.js
[10:17] <chrisccoulson> Line: 232
[10:17] <chrisccoulson> that's why :(
[10:17] <chrisccoulson> that must have been broken for quite some time
[10:18] <larsu> interesting. I remember it working before last weekend.. but maybe I hadn't updated for a while
[10:18] <chrisccoulson> it will be this which broke it: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~extension-hackers/messagingmenu-extension/trunk/revision/142
[10:20] <larsu> chrisccoulson is quick!
[10:20] <seb128> chrisccoulson, larsu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1065919
[10:20] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1065919 in thunderbird "thunderbird 16 updates broke messaging menu integration" [Undecided,New]
[10:21] <seb128> chrisccoulson, assigning to you and milestoning for quantal (though I guess it might be SRU material at this point)
[10:34] <xnox> is compiz cpu bug known? or shall I report?
[10:34] <xnox> it's annoying. and I don't think it's been there before.
[10:34]  * xnox is tempted to login into gnome-session-fallback session.
[10:37] <seb128> xnox, when did that start? not known no, but maybe check with smspillaz or duflu
[10:37] <jibel> could anyone help with bug 1060249, the upgrade of g-s-schemas causes a crash of the perl gtk binding during upgrade from precise to quantal
[10:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1060249 in debconf "frontend crashed with signal 5 in free_pending_nulls()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1060249
[10:38] <xnox> my guess after upgrading to 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2
[10:38] <xnox> as that's when i did upgrade & restart and now seeing this after 2.5 days of uptime.
[11:11] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: stop trolling!
[11:11] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: I saw you on omgubuntu :p
[11:11] <chrisccoulson> lol
[11:12]  * didrocks upvotes chrisccoulson's comment :p
[11:12] <chrisccoulson> thanks :)
[11:15] <seb128> chrisccoulson, lol
[11:20] <jbicha> chrisccoulson: I'm proud of myself for finding a Firefox bug, can you tell me whether bug 1065093 affects nightly too?
[11:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1065093 in firefox "Shift+F2 opens the developer toolbar but doesn't close it" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065093
[11:21] <chrisccoulson> jbicha, it works ok in nightly :)
[11:21] <jbicha> oh, hmm
[11:22] <chrisccoulson> jbicha, yeah, i can reproduce it on 16.0, and not on nightly
[11:22] <chrisccoulson> you should switch to nightly ;)
[11:22] <chrisccoulson> it has a bigger number (which means it's always better) ;)
[11:23] <jbicha> this is also what I get for not running the Beta before this week, sorry
[11:23] <chrisccoulson> heh, that's ok
[11:25] <seb128> chrisccoulson, do I get working messaging menu with nightly? :p
[11:25] <chrisccoulson> seb128, not yet
[11:25] <chrisccoulson> but you'll get it faster with nightly ;)
[11:25] <larsu> chrisccoulson, thanks for fixing it that quickly!
[11:25] <chrisccoulson> heh, np :)
[11:35] <pitti> meh, the default launcher is now really awful on a netbook
[11:35] <pitti> all the important stuff is now folded away
[11:37] <seb128> pitti, important like amazon? ;-)
[11:37] <seb128> pitti, I still use dash and firefox mostly and they are at the top
[11:38] <pitti> no, important like "all the programs I start"
[11:38] <seb128> oh, right, I guess I'm biaised because I've my most used programs pinned at the top
[11:39] <seb128> so I don't often have to use bottom of the launcher/folded icons
[11:39] <chrisccoulson> i think the guy who replied to me on omgubuntu failed to detect the sarcasm in my post
[11:40] <seb128> chrisccoulson, it was well hidden :p
[11:40] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: you trapped him :)
[11:40] <chrisccoulson> surely, signing my post with "Yours faithfully, 1990's Linux Guy" makes it obvious? ;)
[11:40] <seb128> you would think so ;-)
[11:41] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: you should have signed "Using Linux since 1988 and Ubuntu for even more" :)
[11:41] <mlankhorst> hahahahaha
[11:41] <chrisccoulson> lol
[11:41] <mlankhorst> My dna was sent using a ubuntu pc to the internet where it was reassembled on the other end, you could say I have been using ubuntu before I was conceived. :D
[11:42] <jbicha> pitti: that's a Feature https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1054167/comments/6
[11:42] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1054167 in unity "Unity launcher for Quantal Beta 2 has too many items, scrolls off the screen on 1366x768" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[11:50] <seb128> chrisccoulson, could you look at bug #1056225? is that the issue you worked on?
[11:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1056225 in flashplugin-nonfree "Amazon videos don't play" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056225
[11:51] <chrisccoulson> seb128, yeah
[11:51] <seb128> chrisccoulson, can you close it with a comment? ;-)
[11:51] <seb128> chrisccoulson, thanks
[11:52] <chrisccoulson> seb128, yeah, i'll do that in a bit
[11:52] <seb128> chrisccoulson, thanks
[13:32] <kenvandine> hopefully this will be my last chromium upload :)
[13:34] <seb128> chrisccoulson, kenvandine, everybody else: you guys should review your assigned bugs sometimes ;-) I did some cleaning on obvious ones for you but still would be good to close stuff that don't apply anymore or unassign yourself from stuff you are not going to work on
[13:35] <kenvandine> i am afraid to look at that list
[13:35] <kenvandine> i might find more 12.10 work
[13:36] <seb128> kenvandine, lol
[13:56] <mterry> achiang, hah, thanks for the buy-mterry-beer shoutout  :)
[13:57] <achiang> mterry: i hope you don't get cirrhosis from me!
[13:58] <seb128> what, mterry is gettin free beers again? not fair!
[13:58] <mterry> seb128, you'll get your 20% kickback, seb128, don't worry
[13:58] <seb128> ;-)
[13:58] <kenvandine> haha
[14:12] <pitti> au revoir, have a nice weekend everyone!
[14:12] <didrocks> pitti: bon week-end! :)
[14:12] <seb128> pitti, bon w.e !
[14:41] <chrisccoulson> new firefox beta is available in the usual places now :)
[14:41] <chrisccoulson> (and thunderbird)
[14:42] <chrisccoulson> seb128 ^^ ;)
[14:42] <kenvandine> chrisccoulson, how's your daughter?
[14:42] <chrisccoulson> and anyone else who wants to test the new update ;)
[14:42] <seb128> chrisccoulson, usual place include quantal-proposed? ;-)
[14:43] <seb128> cyphermox, hey, you have over 50 bugs assigned to you, could be good to review,update,clean that list when you have some time...
[14:43] <chrisccoulson> kenvandine, oh, she's still very hot, but the doctor didn't seem too concerned about her hitting her head, and thinks it's just viral
[14:44] <chrisccoulson> we weren't at the hospital for very long last night, which i'm pleased about :)
[14:44] <xnox> chrisccoulson: 5 l of room temperature water a day and she should be fine =)
[14:44] <xnox> (drink not soak ;-))
[14:44] <kenvandine> good
[14:44] <chrisccoulson> xnox, she's 3 years old. i'm not sure she'll be able to consume 5l of water ;)
[14:45] <xnox> chrisccoulson: oh
[14:45] <xnox> didn't realise that detail =)
[14:45] <chrisccoulson> heh
[14:46] <seb128> chrisccoulson, so what's the closest "usual places" from what you will be SRU next?
[14:46] <seb128> e.g I want to test a minimal update rather than nightly ;-)
[14:46] <chrisccoulson> seb128, the usual place for the beta is https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next and https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-next
[14:47] <chrisccoulson> i'll do an update to quantal-proposed for the messaging menu bug
[14:47] <seb128> chrisccoulson, do you have anything else planned soon or should we do a SRU for that o... great ;-)
[15:12] <seb128> chrisccoulson, you didn't upload to thunderbird-next?
[15:13] <chrisccoulson> seb128, the messaging menu fix isn't in there yet, as i uploaded those builds a couple of days ago
[15:13] <seb128> chrisccoulson, oh, sorry, I though you said that would include the fix for the messaging menu, you just meant 17 is available?
[15:13] <chrisccoulson> it's coming though :)
[15:13] <seb128> ok
[15:13] <seb128> chrisccoulson, if you get it in today they is still a chance that it will be considered for the iso/release
[15:14] <chrisccoulson> seb128, oh, i didn't realize that
[15:17] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: why do you write code that breaks all the time? ;)
[15:26] <seb128> chrisccoulson, well I guess with the arm etc build time the "we can maybe sneak it in" is optimistic, so let's set for an SRU
[15:26] <seb128> chrisccoulson, it's not an end of world issue anyway
[15:26] <seb128> chrisccoulson, you tricked me to run tb17 though :p luckily it's working ;-)
[15:26] <seb128> (well, not the messaging menu but tb)
[15:33] <didrocks> seb128: do you still have the quick filter? :)
[15:33] <didrocks> (and the chat window I guess :/)
[15:34] <seb128> yeah, both
[15:34] <didrocks> ok, so upgrading is not what triggers to hide the quick filters
[15:35] <chrisccoulson> seb128, thanks for upgrading :)
[15:36] <chrisccoulson> i'll do an upload to proposed next week rather than today, just in case anything else comes up :)
[15:36] <seb128> chrisccoulson, ok, if you want testing just send your fix to -next and I will get the update
[15:37] <chrisccoulson> seb128, yeah, i'm just doing that now actually
[15:37] <seb128> on that note, time for some exercice
[15:37] <seb128> weather is nice again, blue sky after all the rain
[15:37] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: boy, trolling you is pretty disappointing...I was expecting either an insult, or maybe a witty response back...but ignoring me? that hurts.
[15:38] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, oh, where were you trolling me?
[15:38] <didrocks> mdeslaur: well, he's trolled on omgubuntu already
[15:38] <didrocks> mdeslaur: one troll a day!
[15:38] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, ah, are you "unix corporate lock-in guy"?
 chrisccoulson: why do you write code that breaks all the time? ;)
[15:39] <mdeslaur> didrocks: hehe :)
[15:39] <chrisccoulson> oh, i'm confused now ;)
[15:39] <chrisccoulson> i was thinking of the wrong thing
[15:39] <chrisccoulson> oh, i didn't see that
[15:39] <chrisccoulson> hah
[15:39] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, i do it so that i don't let the side down ;)
[15:40] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: I so liked how people took your comment seriously ;)
[15:40]  * mdeslaur wants omgubuntu context...
[15:40] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, yeah, https://twitter.com/chrisccoulson/status/256741242564644864 ;)
[15:41] <mdeslaur> oh, hehe, found it
[15:41] <chrisccoulson> :)
[15:42] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: heh
[15:43] <didrocks> mdeslaur: see how awesome that is? :)
[15:43] <mdeslaur> didrocks: yes :)
[15:43] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: one day, you will maybe learn coding :p
[15:44] <chrisccoulson> lol
[15:44] <bcurtiswx> chrisccoulson, ;)
[15:48] <bcurtiswx> this was my reply to chrisccoulson : https://twitter.com/bcurtiswx/status/256782244121808896
[15:54] <chrisccoulson> bcurtiswx :)
[15:55] <chrisccoulson> heh, i like the sound of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=800000
[15:55] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 800000 in General "Buy the Mozilla community some beer." [Enhancement,Assigned: ]
[16:00] <bcurtiswx> chrisccoulson, any preference as to a brand of beer?
[17:06] <chrisccoulson> sigh, you'd think that compiz would be able to handle text scrolling down my terminal window without slowing down to the point where I can almost go and make myself tea whilst waiting for the workspace switcher animation to finish
[17:07] <MCR1> chrisccoulson: Have you alt-tabbed before ?
[17:08] <chrisccoulson> MCR1, yes, it's just as bad
[17:08] <MCR1> chrisccoulson: Try to restart Unity via CCSM
[17:08] <MCR1> or setsid Unity
[17:08] <MCR1> I have observed a bad regression today, but I've not yet reported it
[17:09] <MCR1> It happens to slow down once you used Alt+Tab
[17:09] <MCR1> then you have to restart unity to make it fast again
[17:09] <MCR1> I did it via CCSM
[17:09] <MCR1> chrisccoulson: Please confirm my observation (or not) ;)
[17:10] <MCR1> bschaefer: ^^
[17:10] <MCR1> chrisccoulson: Quantal ? Unity trunk ?
[17:10] <chrisccoulson> MCR1, oh, what i'm seeing isn't a regression. unity has always slowed to a crawl whenever i do something which causes lots of text to scroll down my terminal
[17:11]  * bschaefer hasn't noticed this
[17:11] <chrisccoulson> bschaefer, do you use tmux?
[17:11] <bschaefer> chrisccoulson, nope
[17:11]  * bschaefer hasn't heard of that
[17:12] <MCR1> bschaefer: Sorry for bothering you - it might be some quirks here only...
[17:12] <bschaefer> MCR1, no worries
[17:26] <kenvandine> hey qengho
[17:26] <qengho> kenvandine: hey hey.
[19:49] <Sweetshark> chrisccoulson: eek, I hope we are worrying in vain.
[22:06] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! I'd like to know if anyone here is interested in running a session about the Ubuntu Desktop Team for OpenWeek?