[03:34] <Ahmuck-Jr> evening everybody
[03:34] <Ahmuck-Jr> it's tuesday, right
[03:34] <DoubleB> sure is
[03:34] <DoubleB> you in your safe spot?
[03:37] <DoubleB> wait you are in conway right?
[03:46] <Ahmuck-Jr> i'm in osborne, ks
[03:50] <DoubleB> doh
[03:50] <DoubleB> nv
[03:50] <DoubleB> we are having bad weather in ar tonight. again
[04:08] <Ahmuck-Jr> we've been in drought.  so we were glad to get rain yesterday
[04:08] <Ahmuck-Jr> hoping for some again this evening
[04:09] <DoubleB> we have some really bad flooding. some some farm towns are empty tonight
[04:09] <zillah> hey i made it
[04:18] <Ahmuck-Jr_> back :)
[04:18]  * Ahmuck-Jr_ has bad wireless connection
[06:40] <Mike_H_> I have a question
[06:40] <Mike_H_> is the Little Rock LUG still operating?
[07:47] <Ahmuck-Jr> anybody awake?
[07:47] <Ahmuck-Jr> [00:40]	<Mike_H_>	is the Little Rock LUG still operating? - what was the answer to that question?
[19:50] <Ahmuck> looks like your in for more weather today


[08:35] <nikolam> hi, I have 100% cpu using 'mousepad' in the background (resumed from suspend, 22.04 Xubuntu) - what would be the best way to stop it, while getting debug info from that misbehaving process?
[11:35] <guiverc> nikolam, this is for Ubuntu 23.04 issues; ie. the next/development release; use #ubuntu for support on released products please (and don't crosspost)
[11:38] <nikolam> OK, I attached to it with gdb. Ok guiverc


[15:25] <josepht> is any hook triggered when a service is exposed?
[15:26] <jose> josepht: nope, the only thing that happens is that the ports are opened for the external world to connect to
[15:27] <josepht> jose: thanks
[16:12] <mrjazzcat> Is there a way to turn off the juju engine for a while, to leave the environment in a certain state?
[16:15] <lazyPower> mrjazzcat: when you say turn off the juju engine - i'm assuming you mean halt the state-server so no agents receive any further events for the duration of teh state-server outage?
[16:16] <mrjazzcat> lazyPower:  That's it exactly
[16:16] <lazyPower> that would be my recommendation then - just halt the state-server machine for the duration of the desired "locked config"
[16:16] <lazyPower> er
[16:16] <lazyPower> "locked state"
[16:17] <mrjazzcat> lazyPower:  Is there a method to halt it?  kill <pid>  ??  Better?
[16:17] <lazyPower> mrjazzcat: well i was referring to actually halting the VM
[16:17] <mrjazzcat> lazyPower:  Ah, OK.  Thank you!
[16:17] <lazyPower> it does have an upstart job - let me see what i can fish up
[16:19] <lazyPower> mrjazzcat: if you want to just halt the services, look like juju-db and jujud-machine-0 are the jobs to stop
[16:19] <lazyPower> so, service jujud-machine-0 stop should be sufficient. as thats the state-server api process
[16:19] <mrjazzcat> lazyPower:  awesome.  I'll try that.  Thanks again
[17:50] <appelgriebsch> hello, I tried to use JuJu on a dedicated Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS installation in our office network (http proxy enabled) with the local (LXC) adapter
[17:51] <appelgriebsch> everything bootstraps fine and juju status shows the agent running on local machine
[17:51] <appelgriebsch> but doing a juju deploy juju-gui failed when trying to access the web repo
[17:52] <appelgriebsch> have set the environment variables for the proxy (juju set-env http-proxy=...) but did not solve the issue
[17:52] <appelgriebsch> does someone has an hint how to proceed?
[17:54] <appelgriebsch> btw: doing a curl with the URL (something like https://charm...) works fine on the server
[17:59] <lazyPower> appelgriebsch: From the parent that worked - have you tried in the lxc-container the local provider allocated?
[18:02] <appelgriebsch> lazyPower: sorry, I don't understand your proposal. Everything was executed on one machine. Accessing the web repo via juju doesnt work. Doing a curl request (manually) from the same machine to the URL listed in the juju error message works fine
[18:05] <lazyPower> appelgriebsch: ah sorry for the confusion. The local provider spins up light weight containers to emulate a cloud to deploy services - if the networking on your host is fine doesn't necessarily mean your containers aren't inheriting the same config. What iw as asking is if you have tried to ssh into that machine:  juju ssh juju-gui/0 , and then try executing the command
[18:05] <lazyPower> since you mentioned a proxy is being set - i imagine the error here is the proxy isn't being inhereted by your juju env - and your communication isn't being routed properly through that proxy
[18:05] <lazyPower> i've got limited experience witht his and will tap someone else to see if they can help you - 1 moment while i put out a request for help
[18:07] <lazyPower> natefinch: when you juju-set http-proxy on the local provider, are all your lxc-containers expected to inheret that config as well? or have I missed something in the docs.
[18:40] <jose> beisner: hey, mind a quick PM?
[18:41] <beisner> o/ jose
[18:41] <jose> o/
[19:32] <natefinch> lazyPower: it's an environment-level property, so it really should be respected by everything
[19:33] <lazyPower> natefinch: ack. a user joined up experiencing the issue and has susequently left - but I thought that was the case.
[19:33] <lazyPower> ty for clarification
[19:33] <natefinch> lazyPower: though what I hear is "blah blah local provider"
[19:33] <natefinch> lazyPower: and the answer is almost always "that's not what local provider is for"
[19:34] <natefinch> unfortunately, I think way too many people misunderstand how juju works, and try to use local provider instead of just deploying to a machine and adding LXC containers to it.
[19:35] <lazyPower> natefinch: understood and agreed
[19:35] <lazyPower> natefinch: When I wrap up this weeks video overview of the rudder/lxc stuff - would you mind giving it a proof watch before i publish - i bet you've got some insight into this topic I may miss.
[19:36] <natefinch> lazyPower: sure, though lxc is not my forte... but I can give it a once-over
[19:37] <lazyPower> the more eyes the better quality the output will be is my thought :) Thanks for the pledge natefinch
[19:37] <lazyPower> this one has taken me longer than I care to admit circling back to


[09:06] <darkmatter> troy_s, anybody, opinions on inactive tabs? http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=510547713&size=o
[10:49] <nothlit> darkmatter: tabs are buttons? :o
[10:49] <nothlit> doh, nm
[10:49] <darkmatter> lol
[10:50] <nothlit> those look more like the old morning glory style
[10:50] <nothlit> they're a little weak and flat for this style
[10:52] <darkmatter> kk
[01:31] <lapo> hi
[01:33] <dilomo> hi


[07:07] <inetpro> good mornings
[10:25] <chesedo> morning inetpro and others
[11:58] <Kilos> Greetings ZA peeps
[11:59] <Kilos> inetpro: you are one of them
[13:21] <chesedo> hi oom Kil.... ai
[14:16] <inetpro> oh my...
[14:17] <inetpro> just in and out again... at least a good sign that he's alive and kicking
[15:25] <chesedo> yip
[16:47] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee on
[16:47]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[16:50] <large> grrrr
[16:50] <Kilos> Maaz: large
[16:50] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Kilos
[16:51] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[16:54] <Kilos> Maaz: thanks
[16:54] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay :-)
[18:12] <chesedo> hi oom groot Kilos, how is it going?
[18:25] <Kilos> hi chesedo, ok ty and you?
[18:43] <chesedo> great ty


[00:01] <bannaapie> but at least he keeps the windows users away from my office
[03:02] <sudormrf> hey guys!  anyone around to help out with a BIND and/or DHCP setup?  I have been working on it quite a bit and things don't seem to be working quite right.
[03:15] <Armadillos> sudormrf: What's the issue?
[03:15] <sudormrf> Armadillos, thanks.
[03:15] <sudormrf> I am working on setting up a new server at home.  I am starting off by setting things up in VMs to test things out before pulling the trigger.  Most of the other things should go fine, but I seem to be having issues with dhcp/bind (not sure which is causing the problem).  I have a server and client VM setup, both using host only for their network.  The server is providing ip addresses to the client via DHCP and the client is getting and u
[03:15] <sudormrf> sing that address, however the info in the resolv.conf for the client is not populating correctly.  It is not receiving the nameserver or search domain from the server.  Looking in syslog I am seeing an error that says "forwardmap from servertest.mydomain.local to <IP_ADDRESS> FAILED:  Has an address record but no DHCID, not mine."  sort of flummoxed at this point
[03:16] <Armadillos> Hmm...
[03:18] <sudormrf> Armadillos, the strange thing is the client has occassionally gotten the correct info.
[03:18] <sudormrf> then I shut the server down and shut the client down
[03:18] <sudormrf> start the server back up
[03:18] <sudormrf> then the client
[03:18] <sudormrf> and it stops getting the right info
[03:18] <Armadillos> O.o
[03:19] <sudormrf> yeah.  it's strange
[03:19] <Armadillos> Can you paste your dhcp config file so I can take a look?
[03:20] <sudormrf> Armadillos, sure.  give me a sec.  the vm doesn't let me copy and paste to and from it to the host, so it will take a sec.
[03:20] <Armadillos> NP.  Make sure you use a paste website, and not drop it all into IRC. :)
[03:21] <sudormrf> heh.  of course :D.  sec.
[03:25] <sudormrf> Armadillos, can you think of any other configs you may want to look at while I am at it?
[03:26] <Armadillos> Let's go off of that right now.
[03:30] <sudormrf> ok  I grabbed everything else for now.  I will PB them all and just save the links :D
[03:32] <Armadillos> K
[03:32] <sudormrf> just saw a different error in the syslog on the server: unable to add forward map from servertest.mydomain.local to <IP_ADDRESS>: SERVFAIL
[03:34] <sudormrf> here is the dhcpd.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/7584708/
[03:39] <Armadillos> On your client VM, is it running like a server (no GUI), or do you have a full GUI in place?
[03:40] <sudormrf> the client is ubuntu desktop :)
[03:40] <Armadillos> Are the network settings being controlled by Network Manager?
[03:40] <sudormrf> they are indeed
[03:40] <sudormrf> no changes have been made to NM
[03:41] <Armadillos> Because network manager will set resolv.conf to <IP_ADDRESS> normally, and it will use a DNS Masq to use a "local" DNS server
[03:41] <sudormrf> well, one.  I commented out the dnsmasq line so I could verify if it was receiving the nameserver
[03:41] <Armadillos> Your /etc/resolv.conf, is it pointing to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[03:41] <Armadillos> Ahh,, Okay.
[03:41] <sudormrf> commented that out :D
[03:41] <sudormrf> yeah
[03:41] <Armadillos> What is in your /etc/resolv.conf file?
[03:42] <sudormrf> now?
[03:42] <Armadillos> When the machine boots up and gets it's DHCP address.
[03:43] <sudormrf> ah.  in that case nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>, search localdomain.  what I am expecting to see (and have seen a couple times) is nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>, search mydomain.local
[03:43] <Armadillos> And you have bind running on that IP?
[03:45] <sudormrf> on 128? yes
[03:45] <sudormrf> just checked the status and it says it is running
[03:46]  * Armadillos scratches head
[03:47] <sudormrf> yeah it is a head scratcher :S
[03:51] <Armadillos> I wonder if it's because you have the same IP address listed twice in the "option Domain-name-servers" area.  Have you tried it with just one?
[03:51] <axisys> what's equivalent to this command to check only the installed pkgs
[03:51] <axisys> apt-cache rdepends libgnutls26 | grep -v lib
[03:51] <Armadillos> axisys: The #ubuntu channel would probably be able to answer that better, as more active people are there.
[03:52] <sudormrf> Armadillos, I have tried it with just one.  didn't resolve the problem :(
[03:52] <sudormrf> I can try it again if you think it would help
[03:53] <Armadillos> Try it and see... I think you're right on this, but it's a "hunch" at this point...
[03:58] <sudormrf> ok
[03:58] <sudormrf> just did a TCPdump (haven't commented it out yet)
[03:58] <sudormrf> perhaps this will be helpful?
[04:01] <Armadillos> It's possible.
[04:11] <sudormrf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7584864/
[04:11] <sudormrf> there it is
[04:18] <Armadillos> Hmm...
[04:18] <Armadillos> I'm baffled at this one...
[04:24] <sudormrf> Armadillos, interesting.  so I tried this: http://pastebin.com/GdEsyECZ and the client picked things up just fine
[04:24] <sudormrf> uncommented out those lines and it broke again
[04:24] <sudormrf> probably something with the ddns updates
[04:25] <Armadillos> Possibly.
[04:27] <sudormrf> trying something else now.
[04:27] <sudormrf> :D
[04:27] <sudormrf> just did this: http://pastebin.com/EbCvHJgN
[04:27] <sudormrf> and it worked again
[04:27] <sudormrf> hmm
[04:27] <sudormrf> maybe it's bootp
[04:34] <sudormrf> looks like the booting and bootp lines may be the culprits
[04:41] <Armadillos> Interesting.  Bootp isn't really used anymore
[04:44] <sudormrf> annddddddddd that wasn't it
[04:44] <sudormrf> something is really strange here
[04:52] <sudormrf> I have to go.  be back later
[05:20] <explodes> I have a server blade with an /etc/network/interfaces configured for eth0 to have a static ip address, but it was meant for a different network, and now i need to "undo" that.  If I have "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" shouldn't it be back to a normal configuration?
[05:20] <explodes> eth0 has no ip after a reboot, so its clearly messing up some where.
[05:24] <explodes> never seen NO ip address what-so-ever show up in ifconfig..
[05:31] <PryMar56> 70 persistent network rules
[05:31] <PryMar56> udev
[05:31] <explodes> I plugged the ethernet wire into the wrong port.
[05:31] <PryMar56> that should job memories
[05:31] <explodes> Wow
[07:38] <arcsky> how do i disable this services ? tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:6010          <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN      2202/1
[07:53] <jpds> arcsky: Find out which PID it belongs to.
[08:00] <arcsky> yeahpla: its 2202 aas u can see there
[08:00] <arcsky> but i want it permant close it
[08:03] <jpds> arcsky: Right, so you have to do: ps aux | grep 2202
[08:06] <arcsky> jpds: sure
[08:08] <arcsky> arcsky      2202  0.0  0.0 105632  2084 ?        S    09:18   0:00 sshd: arcsky@pts/1
[08:11] <xperia> Hi All. I just installed MAAS on my ubuntu Server. I want to use Maas with several Diskless Server Nodes to increase my Proccessing Power. My question is how can i turn On the Diskless Server over PXE with MAAS?
[08:14] <jpds> xperia: IPMI?
[08:15] <xperia> jpds: thanks a lot for the answer. will look into it.
[10:16] <Pupeno> Any ideas why chmod would not find a sub-directory when running recursively? http://serverfault.com/questions/601709/why-would-chmod-give-no-such-file-or-directory-when-running-recursively
[11:21] <cloudman> Hi, can I do away with php 5.5 and use an earlier version without too much hassle
[11:21] <cloudman> WHMCS are not up to speed
[11:22] <cloudman> 14.04
[11:58] <rbasak> jamespage: bug 1068756 just appeared in our triage list. I think all the arguments are exhaustively discussed in the bug. How do you feel about a UOS session to just make a decision?
[12:24] <Teduardo> is there an ubuntu specific openstack channel?
[12:25] <rbasak> Teduardo: I don't think so. This is the best channel for Ubuntu Server + Openstack discussion.
[12:26] <Teduardo> ah, okay. I had a very strange issue with LVM yesterday brought on by cinder doing multiple lvcreates and it turns out it's related to the custom udev rules that ubuntu uses.
[12:26] <Teduardo> is there any way to avoid that sort of thing?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !stackk|Teduardo
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !stack|Teduardo
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !openstack|Teduardo
[12:29] <Teduardo> uhh, sure
[12:30] <cfhowlett> Teduardo sorry, I tried.
[12:35] <Teduardo> cfhowlett: what did you try?
[12:37] <cfhowlett> Teduardo looked for the openstack channel.  not found.  sorry
[12:37] <Teduardo> ohhhh
[12:37] <Teduardo> okay, yeah i guess it's not really an openstack issue i think it's more about lvm and udev in ubuntu
[13:41] <shredding> how can i remove everything from the screen in terminal?
[13:42] <Cyberspirit> clear
[13:42] <Cyberspirit> or cls
[13:42] <xperia> Hi. What for Software/Solution can be used on a Ubuntu Server to melt the CPU's of several Disk less Computer with one Ubuntu Server Computer.
[13:42] <xperia> Ideal would be if the CPU System Information would then show 1 Processor with X available Cores as one Computer instead  X Processors with 1 Core on X Different Computers.
[13:42] <shredding> Cyberspirit: I mean that it’s no longer scrollable
[13:42] <shredding> And more important: Searchable.
[13:42] <Cyberspirit> you would want to look at your logs and clear the logs for bash
[13:43] <Cyberspirit> http://askubuntu.com/questions/191999/how-to-clear-bash-history-completely
[13:44] <shredding> I don’t mean searchable with ctrl-r
[13:44] <shredding> My terminal has endless scrolling.
[13:44] <Cyberspirit> might want to ask someone else here
[13:44] <Cyberspirit> i'm curious myself :)
[13:46] <shredding> Okay.
[13:46] <shredding> The problem occured when i wanted to recursively grep all log files.
[13:46] <shredding> Maybe you know a solution for that:
[13:46] <shredding> I have different folders (nginx, app etc.)
[13:47] <shredding> They have various files and older files are gzipped.
[13:47] <shredding> I want to cat all files recursively excluding gz.
[13:47] <shredding> to grep for a specific word.
[13:54] <rberg_> shredding: how about something like "find /var/log ! -iname "*.gz" | xargs grep 'some term'"
[13:54] <shredding> I ended up with find . ! -name '*.gz' -exec grep 'preview' {} \+
[13:55] <shredding> What’s the difference between iname and name?
[13:55] <shredding> I google it.
[13:55] <rberg_> may I suggest man :)
[13:56] <yossarianuk> hi - does mdraid support discard (for SSD RAID) in ubuntu 12.04?
[13:56] <yossarianuk>  I can use fstrim with md raid'd ssd  - just want to know if discard works with mdraid?
[13:57] <TJ-> shredding: If you pass the results of 'find' as arguments to grep, grep will report the filename too, as in "grep 'preview' $(find ......)"
[13:58] <TJ-> shredding: specifically "grep 'preview' $(find /var/log/ ! -iname '*.gz')"
[13:59] <shredding> TJ-: That’s awesome
[13:59] <shredding> because, then i can pipe the outcoume to another grep.
[14:01] <rberg_> yossarianuk: trim support was added to md in linux 3.7
[14:02] <yossarianuk> rberg_: thanks - I know trim is added
[14:02] <yossarianuk> i.e I can use fstrim on a cron job.
[14:03] <yossarianuk> just wondering is 'discard' should work - i.e auto trimming...
[14:03] <yossarianuk> or if I still need to setup a cron job.
[15:06] <tych0> hi smoser, is there any reason filters for the simplestreams glance mirror aren't configurable?
[15:06] <smoser> i suspect bcause it was written before there were filters
[15:07] <smoser> so no.
[15:07] <smoser> and patches most definitely welcome.
[15:07] <tych0> ok, sounds good
[15:10] <nashant> Hey. I've just installed server 14.04 and it gets part way through booting and then the console hangs (init: plymouth-upstart-bridge main process ended, respawning). But SSH still works. I've tried adding noplymouth to grub defaults but no joy. Any ideas?
[15:40] <Teduardo> hmm, running this command: add-apt-repository cloud-archive:icehouse gives me: Error: 'cloud-archive:icehouse' invalid is there any way around that?
[15:41] <tych0> smoser: so there is some question about how exactly this should work
[15:42] <tych0> do you want to integrate GlanceMirror with ObjectStoreMirror (i.e. require an object store) so that you get all the reference countign stuff and such?
[15:42] <tych0> or should i just implement the filters in GlanceMirror and leave it to be its own beast
[15:44] <smoser> i think probably just do filters
[15:45] <tych0> ok
[16:20] <nashant> Hey guys. I don't suppose anyone has got xbmc working on 14.04 server have they?
[16:56] <fridaynext> what's the command to get in my email inbox using mutt? the accounts are all in /home/vmail/domain/user/Maildir
[16:56] <fridaynext> i've read man mutt and i can't figure it out
[17:35] <smss1995> Hi everybody,
[17:35] <smss1995> I couldn't ssh localhost in the server ...
[17:35] <smss1995> Can anybody help me?
[17:36] <smss1995> Note that, I get "leaking memory" at changing root password ...
[17:46] <smoser> hey. random query...
[17:47] <smoser> mynetwork has been a bit less than reliable lately.
[17:47] <smoser> i want to run something that logs the status of my connection, ideally only showing state changes. but basically showing if a.) i can ping a host or series of hosts b.) i can hit a web site.
[17:48] <smoser> i can write something, but i'd rather not if i dont have to.
[17:48] <smoser> anything available that i can run ?
[17:59] <Monotoko> I can't seem to figure out how to get bind on my 14.04 server, I've tried to the usual "apt-get install bind9" but it's saying there's no installation candidate
[18:00] <Monotoko> even the installation guide suggests what I've already done: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/dns-installation.html
[18:18] <Monotoko> here's what I have in my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/x0J0KZ5t and here's what I get when I try to install it: http://pastebin.com/vbKkvFQW
[18:20] <sarnold> Monotoko: have you run an 'apt-get update' with that apt sources.list yet?
[18:21]  * Monotoko facepalms
[18:21] <Monotoko> thank you sarnold
[18:21] <Monotoko> I've been working with CentOS for too long
[18:22] <sarnold> hehehe :)
[20:30] <sudormrf> Armadillos, you around?
[20:35] <sudormrf> Armadillos, interesting turn of eventsw
[22:26] <shinobi_one> anyone know if it's possible to use nfs4 without exporting /export with fsid=0, like i just want a subdir in /export/subdir exported to a specific host
[22:32] <bekks> shinobi_one: So export /export/subdir witg fsid=0 or use NFSv3.
[22:33] <shinobi_one> bekks: let's say i have /export/subdir1 and /export/subdir2, both i want to go to unique separate servers, should i set fsid=0 on both of those? or will that simply not work
[22:33] <bekks> shinobi_one: That wont work, afaik.
[22:33] <shinobi_one> i don't want to use nfsv3 because nfsv4 is more reliable, and this is stuff that will be mounted basically 24/7 and be used for backups and such
[22:33] <bekks> nfsv4 more reliable? In which manner?
[22:33] <shinobi_one> state
[22:33] <bekks> ?
[22:33] <shinobi_one> i'm not looking to get stale nfs every week
[22:34] <bekks> You can get stale nfs locks with nfsv4 too.
[22:34] <shinobi_one> it's less common though
[22:34] <shinobi_one> as far as i've read
[22:35] <bekks> Mount the share, and just poweroff, not shutdown the exporting server, and you will have your lock. :)
[22:35] <shinobi_one> i mean, i suppose it may be possible to export the /export root to both of the 2 servers separately right?
[22:35] <shinobi_one> i'll try that
[22:35] <bekks> It depends on the share and mount options, not on th v3 / v4.
[22:36] <polo_25> I, can someone help me?, I need to print in raw mode in an EPSON FX2190, trying with "lp -d EPSON_PRINTER -o raw Archivo.prt" I can print, but I don't now how to onfigure the printer to print in raw mode automatically so I can Print the files generated from my DOS emulated app in DOSBox from ane text editor like Geany or gedit.
[22:40] <shinobi_one> btw bekks: it totally works to export the /export root dir to 2 servers specifically, then add the exports for the subdirs uniquely as well
[22:43] <nashant> suddenly having issues. Getting 'plymouth-upstart-bridge main process ended, respawning' and then the screen blinks about every 20 seconds
[22:43] <nashant> but goes no further in the boot process
[22:47] <nashant> correction
[22:47] <nashant> boot just takes ages
[22:48] <sarnold> heh
[22:48] <Phibs> anyone know why when I run debmirror, it isn't picking up the installer ?
[22:49] <Phibs> heh is right ;)
[22:50] <nashant> ignore me. I'd ballsed up my network bridges
[22:51] <sarnold> Phibs: crazy; my timestamps show you joining 29 seconds after I said 'heh'.
[22:52] <Phibs> you muts be a bit lagged :)
[22:53] <sarnold> Phibs: I was thinking much the same about you :)
[22:55] <shinobi_one> with nfsv4 are you supposed to be able to mount the root dir say /export and see all of the subdirs?