[03:31] <hopeshare> hey community, I'm trying to use git with ubuntu server using ssh, I just installed git in my windows machine can someone help me in how to connect to my server using git and deploy my web just for testing purpose
[03:31] <hopeshare>  I have already created a key and configure it and it's working fine
[03:32] <hopeshare> I just need like a command in how to connect to the server using ssh key
[09:08] <sweb> i put my preseed.cnf to root of iso and make iso but seems be it's not loaded ... how can i sure my preseed file is loaded ? ubuntu 16.04 mini.iso
[12:34] <phantoms1> if im running nextcloud as an dockerimage is there a motive why I should stil whant to use as host OS server version (Ubuntu server) or can i use desctop
[12:47] <phantoms1> for hosting private server on the internet
[12:49] <thekrynn_> hello, was wondering if anyone might know why an NFS server I was running decided to stop working out of the blue (service nfs-kernel-server restart returns ok, but says nfsd not running)
[13:35] <sikun> phantoms1, have you used owncloud? if so what is the difference between that and nextcloud
[13:35] <sikun> ?
[13:37] <phantoms1> nextcloud is mor open … free the rely on customer support as income
[13:42] <sikun> ah
[13:42] <sikun> not like the enterprise as with owncloud
[14:22] <sweb> help me on this if you interest https://github.com/mhf-ir/ubuntu-overssh-reinstallation
[15:19] <ikonia> looks like a terrible idea and a very sloppy implementation
[16:20] <sweb> ikonia: try hetzner and stupid image installation to see what's the sloppy ... many datacenters use ubuntu-server-via-(extra package like plesk) as primary ubuntu iso installation .. no custom iso ... limited kvm for installation (time or cost) and much more limitation ... it's simple and fast way to clear installation ... what do you prefer ?
[16:20] <ikonia> I prefer not making bad install solutions like the one you're suggesting in the git repo
[16:26] <sweb> ikonia: i dont see any solution in `bad install solution` word ... give me a way ... give me solution to partition overssh without datacenter cooperation  ...
[16:26] <ikonia> don't do it
[16:26] <ikonia> thats the way to do it
[16:26] <sweb> ikonia: and explain me why
[16:26] <ikonia> because it's a bad install routing trying to do in situ, and the scripts in that repo are poor
[16:27] <ikonia> it also has uncceptable assumptions and dependencies
[16:29] <sweb> if script has problem community can fix it ... loading netboot over the grub imageboot is not good thinkg ? explain uncceptable subjects
[16:29] <ikonia> no
[16:30] <ikonia> the whole concept is not good
[16:30] <ikonia> talk to the DC to provide more realistic support options
[16:30] <ikonia> you're trying to engineer around a problem that shouldn't exist
[16:30] <ikonia> and if it does exist it's that element you need to fix, not an engineering solution
[16:33] <sweb> of course this is stupid problem ... but it exist ... we must deal with it ...
[16:34] <ikonia> no you shouldn't
[16:34] <ikonia> remove the proble
[16:34] <ikonia> problem
[19:05] <Sircle> how to enforce internet through squid and not anything else. If any thing has to be done on http/s via browser, wget, curl etc, it must go through squid or not at all. How to do that on ubuntu?
[19:20] <bekks> Sircle: Configure squid, and forbid direct connections to the internet using your firewall.
[19:21] <Sircle> bekks:  are you pointing to make iptable rules?
[19:22] <bekks> Sircle: Yes.
[19:22] <Sircle> bekks:  liek redirect all requests on port 80,8080,443 to go through squid? like this http://serverfault.com/a/445402?
[19:22] <bekks> Sircle: No.
[19:22] <bekks> "...  and forbid direct connections to the internet using your firewall"
[19:23] <bekks> Sircle: forbiding is not redirecting.
[19:24] <Sircle> bekks:  hm
[19:25] <Sircle> bekks:  so there is no way to automagically redirect 80,443 to squid (WITHOUT browser settings or any app settings). If so, this will cover wget and curl etc
[19:25] <bekks> Sircle: You are mixing things up.
[19:26] <bekks> If you want to REDIRECT, do it. If you want to FORBID, do it. But dont mix them up. :)
[19:26] <bekks> you said you want your squid to be used or if it isnt used, you want to forbid access. Thats not redirecting.
[19:27] <Sircle> ok, how to REDIRECT ALL 80,8080,443 port based calls to ssquid?
[19:28] <bekks> Sircle: like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[19:32] <Sircle> k
[19:34] <Sircle> step #1 allow squid to use 80,443 #2 redirect all other users' requests of 80,443 to squid 3128  bekks ?
[19:39] <bekks> No.
[19:39] <bekks> Sircle: Forbid direct internet access, not squid usage.
[19:40] <Sircle> bekks:  I do not want users to put proxy settings in browsers or apps everytime. Instead just redirect requests to squid. Its the same thing as blocking direct access
[19:40] <bekks> Sircle: Then still do not forbid usage.
[19:40] <bekks> And redirection is totally different from forbidding things.
[19:42] <Sircle> yes. I think redirection is better
[19:43] <Sircle> if suid is onn, it will take care. If its off, the request won't work either way


[04:57] <tjaalton> tomreyn: via linux-firmware upstream
[10:46] <tomreyn> tjaalton: yes, just upstream. i was working with someone in #ubuntu+1 yesterday who had a Radeon VII, which failed https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RntsGxtNDS/ on anything including 5.0 until they installed vega20_sos.bin from upstream
[10:48] <tomreyn> oh i get it now, your point is that those firmwares aren't in https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git yet, which is upstream for ubuntu's packages
[10:48] <tjaalton> tomreyn: yes
[10:52] <tomreyn> ok, i'm not sure how they get there, but asked in #amdgpu
[10:53] <tomreyn> either way, it's probably too late for 18.04.2?
[10:54] <tjaalton> yes
[10:58] <tomreyn> a pity. thanks for your feedback.
[10:59] <tjaalton> there's no driver support anyway
[11:01] <tomreyn> oh 4.20+ only, i see
[18:04] <mamarley> I have a user complaining about how the graphics drivers PPA version of 380.87 for Bionic will not install while the HWE Xorg packages are installed because the NVIDIA package depends on xserver-xorg-core and not xserver-xorg-core-hwe-18.04.  I was going to add an "or" to the dependency so either one would work, but then I looked at the official package of 390.77 and saw that it doesn't seem to be installable while the HWE packages are installed
[18:04] <mamarley>  either.  Is that correct?  What should be done about this?
[18:16] <alkisg> tjaalton: why again "verification-needed-bionic"? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1815172
[19:32] <tjaalton> alkisg: yeah, don't worry about it
[19:32] <tjaalton> couldn't be avoided
[20:02] <bad-player> Just a noob trying to figure out which PPA is best for mesa updates on Ubuntu 18.04.  is the X PPA planned for the forseaable future? Looking for stable but updated
[20:10] <bad-player> OpenGL version string: 4.4 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 18.2.0-rc3
[20:58] <alkisg> tjaalton: ah ok so no need for me to test, ty


[14:33] <xdatap> hi everybody
[14:34] <czajkowski> xdatap: aloha there
[14:34] <czajkowski> how are you
[14:34] <xdatap> czajkowski, fine, and you?
[14:34] <czajkowski> xdatap: good thanks.
[14:34] <czajkowski> having a nice relaxing weekend
[14:34] <xdatap> czajkowski, a friend of mine, today, asked me about next ossbarcamp. He wants to come
[14:35] <xdatap> czajkowski, 10th aprile, right?
[14:35] <czajkowski> xdatap: I'm not sure, let me get the details
[14:35] <czajkowski> I'm not really organising this one
[14:35] <czajkowski> more loaning the name
[14:36] <czajkowski> http://apache.eventbrite.com/
[14:36] <czajkowski> there is a 1 day ossbarcamp on the Saturday
[14:37] <xdatap> but are you going to organize one next year?
[14:38] <czajkowski> xdatap: I#ve got one in mind for the end of April Brgining of May
[14:38] <czajkowski> 2 day event
[14:38] <czajkowski> I'm working on details now :)
[14:39] <xdatap> czajkowski, this one you liked is more apache oriented camp. I would prefer somethings with a wide range, like the previuous you organized
[14:40] <czajkowski> xdatap: well the barcamp on the saturday is gonna be not only apache
[14:40] <czajkowski> but the one I'll run in april/may will be ruby/python/php open street maps, ubuntu etc
[14:40] <czajkowski> I just need to work on a venue
[14:40] <czajkowski> I'll keep yu posted
[14:41] <czajkowski> xdatap: my sister flew to Rome on friday till Sunday for her holiday, she booked it late Thursday night, she missed it too much
[14:41] <czajkowski> Right I'm getting lun ch then working on ubuntu stuff later on if you are lookikng for me
[14:42] <xdatap> czajkowski, next time you should come with your sister and came visiting Siena
[14:42] <czajkowski> xdatap: I should, and will, run a ossbarcamp and I'll have a good reason as well to come :D
[14:42] <czajkowski> bbiab ;)
[14:42] <xdatap> czajkowski, :)


[02:05] <wifilapa> how old a laptop would have mini pci
[03:59] <localgod12> hellp
[03:59] <localgod12> hello


[00:08] <tumbleweed> nigelb: still awake?
[00:15] <jtaylor> how do I figure out where the file for an autoconf macro is
[00:16] <jtaylor> found it
[01:40] <EvilPhoenix> i'd like to get in contact with someone who can possibly arrange a time in their schedule to stop by somewhere for an hour and give a "class" on the process of REVU and how one can submit packages to be considered in a next release's repositories.  can anyone point me to whom I should speak to?
[05:03] <nigelb> tumbleweed: what's up?
[05:06] <dtchen> oh crud, my bind-mounts...
[05:20] <nigelb> I've not been packaging for so long.
[05:20] <nigelb> So many mistakes :(
[05:33] <ajmitch> nigelb: you're hardly the only one to make mistakes
[05:34] <nigelb> ajmitch: that's slightly comforting :)
[08:02] <lucas> Laney: ubuntu-upload-history added to UDD
[08:43] <Laney> lucas: thanks!
[08:44] <Laney> when does it update?
[08:48] <lucas> Laney: 49 */6 * * * $UAR upload-history ubuntu-upload-history | /org/udd.debian.org/udd/scripts/filter-output.rb
[08:48] <Laney> sweet
[08:54] <Laney> lucas: looks like it misses the extra fields Signed-By Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed Original-Maintainer
[08:55] <lucas> Laney: could you open a bug for that ?
[08:55] <lucas> for Signed-By, what does it contain?
[08:56] <Laney> same format as Changed-By — it's populated if the signing key doesn't match the Changed-By address somehow
[08:56] <Laney> can be useful to see who's doing sponsorship
[08:58] <lucas> ok, please open a bug. I'm too busy those days to spend more time on this, so it will probably wait until debconf
[08:59] <Laney> ok then
[08:59] <Laney> on qa.d.o?
[08:59] <lucas> yes
[08:59] <Laney> coming up
[10:19] <huats> morning
[11:01] <dholbach> directhex, do you think it'd be worth having a mono packaging session at UDW this time around?
[11:05] <directhex> dholbach, if you like. i guess some stuff has changed in the last couple of years
[11:06] <dholbach> directhex, I think it'd be awesome
[11:06] <dholbach> directhex, and I could imagine you still need some help on the team, no? :)
[11:07] <directhex> dholbach, always
[11:08] <dholbach> directhex, we still have 2 open slots for UDW, but if you find a different time on the schedule better, I'm happy to ask somebody if they can swap
[11:08] <dholbach> it's in 2 weeks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable
[11:08] <dholbach> and if you'd like to give the session together with somebody else, that's fine as well
[11:09] <directhex> dholbach, i work from home these days, the timing kinda doesn't matter to me
[11:10] <dholbach> directhex, just let me know what would work best for you and I'm happy to organise the rest
[11:12] <dholbach> jmarsden, hey - how are you doing?
[11:12] <dholbach> could you imagine to give a session about Lubuntu and what's going on there this cycle at Ubuntu Developer Week?
[11:12] <dholbach> (maybe together with gilir?)
[11:22] <directhex> dholbach, just put my name in a timeslot, and email me a reminder
[11:24] <dholbach> directhex, will do! thanks a lot!
[15:56] <nigelb> tumbleweed: thanks for the upload :)
[15:58] <tumbleweed> nigelb: np. I renamed the patch in the changelog entry, btw
[15:59] <nigelb> oh? /me looks
[15:59] <tumbleweed> you renamed the patch but didn't update the changelog to match
[16:00] <nigelb> doh
[16:06] <nigelb> tumbleweed: pathfinder seems to be false positive
[16:08] <nigelb> so does pornview (doesn't fail anymore)
[16:08] <tumbleweed> you sure? there's an open debian bug on it? (pathfinder)
[16:09] <nigelb> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pathfinder/1.1.3-0.3
[16:09] <nigelb> fails due to unavailable build-dep on sparc
[16:09] <tumbleweed> that was built before the toolhain changes
[16:09] <nigelb> ahh
[16:12] <micahg> and there's no more sparc in Ubuntu
[16:12] <nigelb> oh, cmake.
[16:13] <nigelb> I wonder if I bit more than I can chew
[16:22] <jtaylor> linker flags such as `--libs' belong in `test_libpaps_LDFLAGS o_O
[16:22] <jtaylor> from automake
[16:23] <jtaylor> the input is a pkg-config --libs ...
[16:24] <nigelb> This is wrong, isn't it? set(LDAP_LINKFLAGS "-lldap")
[16:31] <jtaylor> yes its wrong
[16:31] <jtaylor> should be LIBRARIES
[17:01] <Laney> apparently geser is the most prolific non-canonical uploader! http://people.ubuntu.com/~laney/upload_count.txt
[17:01] <Laney> ;-)
[17:02] <geser> wow, I'm even in top10 :)
[17:03] <jtaylor> zzzZZzzzZZZz bts is so slow
[17:05] <nigelb> I actually did Ctrl + F geser. Sigh.
[17:05] <Laney> heh
[17:09] <micahg> Laney: will that list be auto uploading
[17:09] <Laney> no
[17:09] <Laney> i was just messing around with the new UDD/ubuntu upload history stuff
[17:11] <james_w> wow, four people beat the auto-syncer?
[17:12] <nigelb> heh, that must be BIG. :)
[17:12] <Laney> you can run queries against it yourself on wagner.d.o
[17:19] <geser> Laney: some more haskell transitions and you will move up in the ranking too :)
[17:19] <micahg> hehe
[17:20] <Laney> hah
[17:20] <Laney> not sure how many more of those I can take
[17:20] <Laney> surely implementing binNMU in LP would be less work overall
[17:23] <micahg> Laney: I'd rather have 1-click no change rebuilds in LP than binNMUs
[17:24] <Laney> it's useful to be able to do it per-arch
[17:24] <Laney> but you'd get both probably
[17:24] <micahg> I could buy that :)
[17:26] <Laney> if only because arch:all binNMU is still not realised
[17:42] <jtaylor> anyone know what scons uses for LDADD or LIBS?
[17:56] <jtaylor> its LIBS
[22:44] <omergex> hi
[22:45] <omergex> i use toshiba a300 2d4 notebook,
[22:45] <omergex> ati hd 3470
[22:45] <omergex> my notebook temperature very high
[22:45] <omergex> hdd temp 50
[22:46] <omergex> why
[22:51] <omergex> on windows 40 temp
[22:51] <omergex> ubuntu 50
[22:56] <omergex> help please :)
[22:56] <dtchen> omergex: you probably will have better luck on http://askubuntu.com
[22:56] <dtchen> omergex: (or the #ubuntu channel here)
[22:57] <omergex> ubuntu channel, ok
[22:57] <omergex> thanks
[22:57] <omergex> :)


[00:30] <snap-l> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roujin_Z
[02:51] <snap-l> http://www.reddit.com/r/html5/comments/1jgjam/anyone_who_knows_how_to_create_a_social/
[12:52] <snap-l> Good morning
[13:16] <brousch> ug
[13:17] <brousch> I have 2 lingering problems with the Win7 migration: Lotus 123r5 (for Windows!) and Firefox over redirected folders
[13:17] <brousch> FF is going in the trash
[13:42] <snap-l> brousch: 123r5? Isn't that a DOS version?
[13:43] <brousch> No. It says on the floppies "For Windows!"
[13:43] <snap-l> Oh fun
[13:44] <brousch> It's next on the list for re-writing
[13:45] <snap-l> Did you try the files under Libreoffice?
[13:45] <snap-l> It allegedly has support
[13:45] <snap-l> (according to the file menu)
[13:58] <brousch> It does not
[13:58] <brousch> The only thing that can read these spreadsheets in Excel97
[14:06] <snap-l> ugh
[14:06] <snap-l> Could try Wine, and convert them
[14:07] <brousch> Conversion won't help since they are basically programs written in Lotus macros
[14:07] <snap-l> Oh that's lovely
[14:07] <snap-l> And nobody though in the 10+ years since to rewrite this?
[14:07] <snap-l> s/though/thought?
[14:07] <brousch> I'm doing it now!
[14:08] <snap-l> Congratulations. :)
[14:08] <snap-l> Way to be forward-thinking. ;)
[14:08] <brousch> But really it's hard to knock a system that's worked for pretty much 20 years
[14:09] <snap-l> Oh, no doubt. I'm sure it's gold watch will look lovely
[14:09] <snap-l> If you can find the original boxes you could put that gold watch in there as a memento of it's achievements. ;)
[14:10] <brousch> What annoys me most is when I tested it on Win7 4 years ago it worked fine. Now Lotus is on some blacklist that won't even try to run
[14:10] <snap-l> brousch: Probably because it didn't actually run well. :)
[14:10] <brousch> It ran fine
[14:12] <snap-l> It's part of Microsoft's grand conspiracy to kill Lotus once and for all.
[14:12] <snap-l> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/excel-help/differences-between-microsoft-excel-and-lotus-1-2-3-HP005199774.aspx
[14:13] <snap-l> *snort*
[14:13] <snap-l> http://www.zdnet.com/goodbye-lotus-1-2-3-7000015385/
[14:14] <brousch> Lotus is officially dead. IBM killed it a month or two ago
[14:14] <jrwren> zomg, PEP8 is ALIVE!!!
[14:15] <snap-l> jrwren: I didn't know that it was suspected of being dead
[14:15] <rick_h> jrwren: ?
[14:15] <brousch> rick_h is going to have a stroke http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#maximum-line-length
[14:16] <jrwren> http://bugs.python.org/issue18472
[14:17] <rick_h> jrwren: yea, lots of pylint stuff, would be cool
[14:18] <rick_h> brousch: why? "Aim to limit all lines to a maximum of 79 characters" ?
[14:18] <brousch> But 99 is OK!
[14:19] <rick_h> meh, but that use case never comes into play since you can always write readable code in 79chars
[14:19] <snap-l> Wonder if it'll show as a warning now with the linter. :)
[14:19] <jrwren> i won't be changing my 79 limit :p
[14:19] <snap-l> Same here.
[14:19] <brousch> It'll show as "Why are you breaking at 79 when your whole line would fit in 99"?
[14:20] <snap-l> For flowing long blocks of text with fewer structural restrictions (docstrings or comments), limiting the line length to 72 characters is recommended.
[15:13] <brousch> This sounds interesting: https://github.com/adicu/pantograph
[15:16] <jrwren> http://stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/activity/h/humor/Computers/unix.grades
[15:19] <rick_h> https://gist.github.com/mitechie/6132350 vs https://raw.github.com/kivy/kivy/master/examples/widgets/lists/list_cascade_dict.py for easy to read...go :)
[15:23] <brousch> #1
[15:23] <brousch> A lot of extra \ breaks in #2
[15:23] <rick_h> brousch: ty, hopefully @jacebrowning will start to think a bit
[15:23] <jrwren> HATE \ breaks
[15:23] <jrwren> find a different way.
[15:23] <rick_h> it's his example of "longer line length required for the code here"
[15:24] <jrwren> use ( or break inside a ( or list or dict
[15:24] <rick_h> so I refactored the damn file
[15:24] <jrwren> HATE \ !
[15:24] <brousch> heh
[15:24] <jrwren> exactly. it is a sign you have triangular code. extract to more functions
[15:24] <jrwren> makes it easier to read.
[16:44] <greg-g> so, pep8, discuss
[16:44] <greg-g> :)
[16:45]  * greg-g reads scrollback
[16:47]  * rick_h ducks and tries to hide.
[16:47] <rick_h> people can write whatever bad code they want.  It's the time of inventive language ;)
[17:28] <greg-g> rick_h: totally
[17:29] <snap-l> Bah, teach 'em young
[17:29] <rick_h> and to break out classics like "...because I said so!!!"
[17:40] <snap-l> jcastro: http://www.rushisaband.com/blog/2013/08/01/3738/Long-awaited-Vapor-Trails-remix-coming-October-1st-now-available-for-pre-order
[17:47] <jcastro> alright!!
[19:25] <rick_h> moto x news coming out. doesn't look like a nexus phone :(
[19:32] <snap-l> rick_h: I'm not surprised, but I'm a little saddened
[19:32] <snap-l> Wonder if there's contracts for the Nexus-branded stuff
[19:32]  * rick_h wonders how close to asop it'll be
[19:33] <rick_h> I want to pay full price for a phone that'll get google updates on the day of for the life of that device. Was hoping moto x would be it.
[19:36] <rick_h> wtf, did t-mobile get rid of the lower price if you brought your own phone?
[19:37] <rick_h> in looking at their website the price is the same if I bring my own phone or get a GS4 from them
[19:39] <snap-l> nfc
[19:39] <rick_h> ah, nvm. That's the 'down payment' that's 0
[19:40] <rick_h> so they charge you for the phone, but they'll add it to your monthly payments so nvm
[19:42] <snap-l> OK, the person on Windows Weekly sounded like she was what happens when I have the wrong bitrate
[19:42] <snap-l> Had to wait for Leo to jump in to verify
[19:53] <jcastro> rick_h: you're not waiting for the normal Moto X
[19:53] <jcastro> you're waiting for the Google Play Moto X
[19:53] <jcastro> which they haven't announced yet
[19:56] <jcastro> announced but haven't revealed I mean
[20:00] <snap-l> Ah, I see they kept Motorola's Marketing department
[20:02] <jcastro> so the one thing I like about this
[20:02] <jcastro> is that they decided that going big was dumb
[20:02] <jcastro> and kept it at 4.7 inches
[20:03] <jcastro> meanwhile samsungs are starting to look like car windshields in your hand
[20:07] <snap-l> jcastro: Who do I bitch to about the rash of spam making its way through the Ubuntu list owners aliases?
[20:07] <snap-l> because something changed and now I'm getting a ton of crap
[20:07] <jcastro><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:08] <snap-l> danke
[20:12] <snap-l> sent
[20:40] <rick_h> yea, I'd like to be about 4.5 I think
[20:40] <rick_h> I'm hoping this is 4.7, but since there's less border it won't be much bigger than my gnex
[20:42] <brousch1> I'm not a huge fan of the big phones. I loved the size of my Droid 1
[20:43] <brousch1> But now they pack 1080p into a phone
[20:48] <jcastro> rick_h: the Edge is 4.5. And after holding the physical prototype I am basically sold
[20:48] <rick_h> jcastro: yea, cool
[20:48] <jcastro> I wish I could get the guts of my Nexus 4 in the form factor of the Nexus One
[20:48] <jcastro> that was an awesome size
[20:49] <brousch1> iphones are still small
[20:49] <jcastro> I don't think iphones are small, I think other phones just got huge
[20:51] <rick_h> yea, my wife misses her incredible size (iphone size)