[16:32] <mikeW68> TomyLaptop: I also tried to set the passwd with usermod -p "password" nothing
[16:32] <atjehcyber> anonymous_ yes... ask,
[16:32] <TomyLaptop> atjehcyber, allowed: yes. but you'll get help faster in your native language
[16:32] <DJones> anonymous_: As long as they're relating to ubuntu support, then yes
[16:32] <anonymous_> ok
[16:32] <anonymous_> how i can crash or attack a website
[16:32] <anonymous_> from ubtuno
[16:32] <atjehcyber> wow
[16:32] <TomyLaptop> mikeW68, uhm with crypt?
[16:32] <anonymous_> im used anonymouse -OS atm
[16:33] <atjehcyber> this is from helpdesk brotha
[16:33] <DJones> anonymous_: Thats appropriate for the ubuntu channels
[16:33] <Pici> !illegal | anonymous_
[16:33] <BluesKaj> anonymous_, this isn't the place to ask for advice on illegal activity
[16:33] <DJones> thats not appropriate
[16:33] <mikeW68> Tomylaptop: crypt?
[16:33] <anonymous_> ok sorry
[16:33] <TomyLaptop> mikeW68, read the manpage dude :P
[16:33] <TomyLaptop> The encrypted password, as returned by crypt(3).
[16:34] <alo21> hi. where are transmission file in Ubuntu (source)?
[16:34] <atjehcyber> all, need to know, how can i make more fast my ubuntu 10.4
[16:34] <atjehcyber> am used lenovo e125
[16:34] <TomyLaptop> atjehcyber, 10.04 is old
[16:34] <atjehcyber> and can i make this os for education on my country
[16:34] <TomyLaptop> 12.10 is newest
[16:34] <atjehcyber> we no have more internet hare
[16:35] <atjehcyber> i know that, we not have more internet connection on here
[16:35] <atjehcyber> but i am need maximal for used this os or education
[16:35] <atjehcyber> can you help me for make my ubuntu 10.4 better
[16:36] <atjehcyber> and what i must do for it
[16:36] <TomyLaptop> i never used 10.4
[16:36] <SonikkuAmerica> atjehcyber'
[16:36] <atjehcyber> so, you need me used ubuntu 12.x !, i hard for download it
[16:36] <atjehcyber> yes sonikkuamerica
[16:37] <TomyLaptop> mikeW68, the default install doesnt seem to have crypt. want me to PM you a pre-crypted password?
[16:38] <SonikkuAmerica> atjehcyber' never mind.
[16:38] <mikeW68> TomyLaptop, if you think that might help I would appreciate it.
[16:38] <philinux> TomyLaptop: seems like hamstermars solution maybe the only one to mikeW68's problem
[16:38] <TomyLaptop> or do you have internet in recovery mode?
[16:38] <kslater> You can have it I think. Might have to do some manual config depending on what network interface card you'd want to use
[16:38] <mikeW68> tomylaptop I haven't tried internet in recovery, never thought to working on the theory I was only try to change passwords
[16:39] <TomyLaptop> apt-get install mcrypt
[16:39] <Joerex101> #backtrack
[16:39] <MACMIND> hello ubuntu users
[16:39] <TomyLaptop> if that fails, try the crypted password i'll send you in a bit
[16:39] <MACMIND> I run ubuntu on my mac, it's awesome !
[16:39] <Joerex101> d
[16:40] <thelinux> MACMIND Hello!
[16:40] <MACMIND> I have a question, is there any computer made of completely free software nowadays ? even bios
[16:40] <atjehcyber> are i need antivirus on my ubuntu ?
[16:40] <mikeW68> tomylaptop, how do I send you my email
[16:40] <thelinux> MACMIND Can you reformulate your question?
[16:41] <MACMIND> yes, Richard stallman uses the yeloong because its made up of only free software
[16:41] <thelinux> atjehcyber: You don't need antivirus for ubuntu.
[16:41] <MACMIND> is there any such computer in the market today ?
[16:41] <atjehcyber> so can you tell me what the best application on ubuntu for education
[16:42] <TomyLaptop> mikeW68, dont bother, i'll just send it to you via IRC query
[16:42] <atjehcyber> i need maximal my ubuntu 10.4 for education we hard for internet
[16:42] <mikeW68> Tomylaptop that works
[16:42] <thelinux> MACMIND: You mean OS(operating system), not computer. Well Ubuntu is made up of free software. Reason Stallman doesn't like Ubuntu very much because Ubuntu offers to download proprietary software, like those drivers.
[16:42] <MACMIND> no, I mean, a computer that has bios that is not proprietary !
[16:43] <MACMIND> is there such a computer ?
[16:43] <thelinux> atjehcyber: Go to Ubuntu Software Center, you have there whole category for educational applications and games.
[16:43] <thelinux> MACMIND: I'm not aware of such computer, I'll check online.
[16:43] <atjehcyber> thelinux i need offline application, i have tell you on my country so hard get internet connection
[16:44] <atjehcyber> am need used my ubuntu for our school
[16:44] <atjehcyber> i used ubuntu 10.4 just that i have
[16:45] <thelinux> MACMIND: Check online coreboot it's free and open source, it can replace proprietary BIOS.
[16:45] <MACMIND> thelinux, why stallman calls linux, the gnu ?
[16:45] <atjehcyber> whois MACMIND
[16:45] <prove> hi
[16:45] <MACMIND> wow ! I had no clue of something like that, thanks
[16:45] <thelinux> atjehcyber: What kind of apps you want for education?
[16:45] <atjehcyber> ok
[16:46] <atjehcyber> anythink
[16:46] <atjehcyber> what you recomend for me
[16:46] <atjehcyber> i need base php but ubuntu support it
[16:46] <atjehcyber> couse i love this system
[16:47] <thelinux> atjehcyber: Wait, I think I know what you would like it's mathematics related, I used it, let me check the name of the application.
[16:47] <atjehcyber> oke thanks you
[16:47] <MACMIND> thelinux, please answer me.
[16:48] <atjehcyber> all am have install add on on firefox but right now can't open the firefox
[16:48] <atjehcyber> anysolution ?
[16:48] <Pici> !offtopic | MACMIND
[16:48] <atjehcyber> am need it for fine information
[16:48] <thelinux> atjehcyber: Check out GeoGebra.
[16:48] <atjehcyber> oke thank you thelinux
[16:49] <thelinux> MACMIND: Come to private message, I'll explain. It's offtopic here.
[16:49] <atjehcyber> all am need my firefox back well, that can't open that because i have install more add on for firefox
[16:49] <atjehcyber> can i recovery that
[16:49] <Haematoma> anyone here use rtorrent?
[16:49] <atjehcyber> am need firefox for find more info
[16:50] <atjehcyber> am need firefox for find more info
[16:50] <thelinux> atjehcyber: Open on Ubuntu. Ubuntu Software Center application, you don't need to download from browser.
[16:50] <atjehcyber> :), sorry thelinux am have remove the software center
[16:50] <atjehcyber> i think that not inportan
[16:51] <atjehcyber> can i recovery that to :)
[16:51] <thelinux> How was it deleted?
[16:51] <atjehcyber> thelinux i don't know i forgot it :)
[16:52] <atjehcyber> am need make my ubuntu fast and i remove some application
[16:52] <thelinux> atjehcyber: I'll help you.
[16:52] <atjehcyber> all application i have remove
[16:52] <atjehcyber> ok thankyou for you help thelinux
[16:52] <atjehcyber> what step
[16:52] <thelinux> atjehcyber: Check on your application list, I'm not really sure that you removed it.
[16:53] <atjehcyber> thelinux application list whare
[16:54] <atjehcyber> on application just have internet menu and office menu only
[16:54] <thelinux> atjehcyber: I mean, find the Ubuntu Software Center application.
[16:54] <atjehcyber> yes i not find it, on application menu
[16:54] <atjehcyber> whare the position of it
[16:54] <kslater> where is it that one can control the mount point of a removable drive? I'm especially thinking of the case where a removable USB drive might end up with a different base device name (/dev/sdd vs. /dev/sde, etc.)
[16:55] <thelinux> atjehcyber: Go to Terminal: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:guido-iodice/guiodiclucid    sudo apt-get update    sudo apt-get install software-center
[16:55] <atjehcyber> oke i will try, i will back after that finish
[16:55] <philinux> Or just sudo apt-get install software-center
[16:56] <atjehcyber> what command i used
[16:56] <eliatrope_> hi all, i'm using i3 on kubuntu, how can i start kde services ?
[16:56] <atjehcyber> please give to me one command
[16:56] <philinux> sudo apt-get install software-center
[16:57] <lantizia> Hey on Ubuntu 12.04 (or even maybe 12.10) I've noticed if you attach a usb disk with ntfs it'll just mount it for you without questions or installation of any packages - is the same true for exFAT and which would you say is a better choice (they ARE the only choices in this case)
[16:57] <atjehcyber> oke but i try to put sudo ap-get install sofware-center have error notfound
[16:57] <thelinux> atjecyber: Yes, use what philinux said. But that PPA I agve you had never version of Ubuntu Software Center,
[16:57] <atjehcyber> oke i have done
[16:58] <thelinux> atjehcyber: sudo apt-get install software-center
[16:58] <atjehcyber> so what more,
[16:58] <atjehcyber> i thinks i need new firefox fist
[16:58] <thelinux> atjehcyber: Use: sudo apt-get install software-center
[16:58] <atjehcyber> oke i will try thelinux
[17:00] <atjehcyber> thelinux, am need upgrade firefox on my ubuntu what command i used ?
[17:00] <thelinux> atjehcyber: sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[17:01] <atjehcyber> oke that mean, sudo apt-get upgrade (application-name)
[17:01] <thelinux> atjehcyber: Yes. For upgrade.
[17:02] <atjehcyber> so if i used sudo apt-get update firefox  that mean for update ?
[17:02] <philinux> atjehcyber: what does this command show. apt-cache policy firefox
[17:03] <thelinux> atjehcyber: It won't work that way.  update is used to update or refresh the repositories for new versions.
[17:03] <atjehcyber> oke
[17:04] <thelinux> philinux: He has Ubuntu 10.04. So I guess he has older version of Firefox.
[17:04] <alo21> can someone tell me transmission .c files are in Ubuntu, please?
[17:04] <llutz> alo21: apt-get source transmission      to get the sourcecode, if that is what you want
[17:04] <atjehcyber> thelinux
[17:05] <atjehcyber> my firefox still can't open
[17:05] <thelinux> Yes atjehcyber?
[17:05] <alo21> llutz, I would like to know the transmission path in ubuntu
[17:05] <eliatrope_> anyone use i3 on kubuntu ?
[17:05] <thelinux> How, what does it say?
[17:05] <ikonia> eliatrope_: i3.......that's a pretty wide range
[17:05] <ikonia> eliatrope_: why don't you just explain your problem
[17:05] <alo21> eliatrope_, me
[17:05] <atjehcyber> notthing
[17:05] <thelinux> atjehcyber: I need to go, I'll be back in 30 minutes.
[17:05] <atjehcyber> i just double klik and no respond
[17:05] <alo21> sorry... on Ubuntu not Kubuntu
[17:05] <atjehcyber> oke
[17:08] <eliatrope_> ikonia: kde start a bunch of seervice at startup, such wifi, so i'm unable to have a connection running i3
[17:08] <[twisti]> hi, am i understanding correctly that /run/shm is a ready made ramdisk that i can use without worrying about having to do anything else ?
[17:09] <BigTaxi> I'm having a lot of issues with winetricks and setting steam up. please let me know when you are free to help.
[17:10] <KaRmA> BigTaxi, doesn't steam have a native linux client now.
[17:10] <BigTaxi> it's in beta
[17:10] <KaRmA> ic
[17:11] <BigTaxi> i had it, but i'm working to install .NET 3.5 and deleted my entire winetricks setup
[17:11] <BigTaxi> and now nothing is working... a lot of sha1sum errors
[17:13] <nextblove> hello am worried want a doc for setting up dns server on my ubuntu
[17:14] <philinux> atjehcyber: apt-cache policy firefox
[17:15] <Pici> !dns | nextblove
[17:15] <r3m> jto jean coutu sul cell hah woohoo chu hot?
[17:15] <nextblove> thank bro
[17:16] <r3m> jto jc
[17:16] <r3m> ec lcell
[17:16] <Pici> r3m: stop
[17:19] <jeno> kāpēc es nevaru saņemt sarkanā brīdinājuma tiberian apakšgrupas spēli, lai strādātu saskaņā ar vīna??
[17:20] <DJones> jeno: I'm afraid this channel is English language only, you may might get some help in #winehq
[17:22] <ofcan> exit
[17:22] <philinux> atjehcyber: what did that command return. It should tell u the current installed version of firefox
[17:22] <savid> Anyone here using a touchpad? I'm trying to make it so that my palms touching the corners of my touchpad don't register as a two-finger scroll.  Is that possible?
[17:23] <toordog> hi all
[17:23] <nextblove> hi all people here
[17:23] <toordog> is there a preinstall virtual machine of ubuntu with kerberos ldap configuration somewhere?
[17:24] <nextblove> can i get a doc about samba4 from u people?
[17:24] <toordog> or a solution like FreeIPA for Ubuntu?
[17:24] <toordog> nextblove what about going to official samba website and check the doc?
[17:25] <Virunga> YoltA: stop spamming please
[17:26] <toordog> nextblove: http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/HOWTO
[17:26] <alcaprawn> why do i have stupid blocks [] on the end of each line when i show conky on my desktop?
[17:26] <nextblove> wow thank toordog:
[17:27] <toordog> nextblove: google 5 seconds
[17:29] <toordog> is there any central authentication solutions for Ubuntu so far?
[17:29] <oldgoose> that's a relief
[17:30] <oldgoose> how do i register my nick. anyone?
[17:30] <Muphrid> !register | oldgoose
[17:30] <David-A> alcaprawn: do you have DOS-line-endings (CR+LF) in the .conkyrc file perhaps? If so change to UNIX-line-endings (LF).
[17:30] <qliatrope> avelldiroll: i missed something ?
[17:31] <atjehcyber> i need install alternatif photoshop on ubuntu what that called
[17:31] <SolarisBoy> the Gimp atjehcyber
[17:31] <atjehcyber> oke
[17:32] <alcaprawn> any ideas, why i have []blocks on each line when i launch conky?
[17:32] <alcaprawn> here is my config. ubuntu 12.10 ati beta drivers > gnome 3.6 http://pastebin.com/yHG9Ebn2
[17:33] <alcaprawn> it shows fine on desktop. just after each line i have a stupid []block ??
[17:34] <oldgoose> Muphrid + ubotto thanks
[17:35] <David-A> alcaprawn: didnt my answer 4 minutes ago help?
[17:36] <veleno> hello everyone. how can I check what are the errors produced by a (custom) init script when executed at the startup of the system ?
[17:38] <mattattaque> oyy
[17:44] <llutz> alcaprawn: recode ibmpc..lat1  your-conkyrc
[17:46] <yousaf_> Hi all, I have logged into my server using WINScp, I can see <root> where can I find error logs?
[17:46] <yousaf_> for a php application that i am hosting
[17:47] <jhutchins_wk> toordog: That's the kind of thing that it's best not to use a preconfigured system.  In order to manage it, you're going to have to learn the things you have to know to install and configure it anyway.  If you try to run it without knowing those things it won't go well for you.
[17:50] <jhutchins_wk> yousaf_: Error logs are generally in /var/log, but winscp is not the best way to view them.  If you use putty you can log in to the server and view them there.
[17:51] <yousaf_> I am logged through both SCP and putty
[17:51] <jhutchins_wk> yousaf_: Assuming you're running the php through apache, the logs will be in /var/log/apache2
[17:51] <jhutchins_wk> yousaf_: access.log and error.log
[17:52] <Pataf> ...
[17:52] <yousaf_> looks like its nginx
[17:52] <Pataf> What is nginx ? (I'm a newbie)
[17:53] <Omeech> тест
[17:56] <yousaf_> error log is empty
[17:56] <jhutchins_wk> ngnix is an attempt to reinvent the apache web server.
[17:57] <jhutchins_wk> It's supposed to be more efficient for small jobs, but it's not as well known or as well documented.
[17:57] <jhutchins_wk> yousaf_: You may need to increase the logging level in php.ini
[17:59] <yousaf_> ok
[18:00] <santagada_> jhutchins_wk, what? nginx is well documented
[18:00] <santagada_> nginx is a very well documented and used more than IIS, and is not trying to reinvent apache
[18:00] <joe9> I tried to install ubuntu with the wubi_install.exe. The installation instructions use C:/ to install. I installed it to the D: drive as my C: does not have enough space.
[18:01] <joe9> Is that ok?
[18:01] <joe9> I did not get the ubuntu boot on startup, the system went to windows on boot.
[18:01] <joe9> which means that ubuntu was not installed properly.
[18:02] <joe9> I am not sure if it could have been caused by some installation disruption (power loss, etc) or if I used the wrong drive for the install.
[18:03] <joe9> or, could the wubi_install.exe change the boot sector of the D:/ drive whereas the BIOS uses the C:/ drive to boot.
[18:03] <joe9> Is that possible?
[18:03] <joe9> any thoughts, please?
[18:05] <LTF> hi
[18:05] <LTF> how can i enter to the recovery console if im not using grub, (using xosl)?
[18:10] <vitimiti> I'd like to install linux-mint with mate desktop, but my question is wether it is lighter than xfce or not. Does somebody know?
[18:10] <th3pun15h3r> xfce is lighter i believe
[18:10] <jhutchins_wk> joe9: Sorry, no knowledge of wubi.
[18:11] <atlef> +1 for xfce
[18:11] <DJones> !mint | vitimiti You're probably better asking in the mint support channel, they should be able to give you more info,
[18:11] <jhutchins_wk> vitimiti: We can't know what mint installs.
[18:11] <th3pun15h3r> personally prefer openbox
[18:11] <jrib> LTF: seems like grub just passes "ro recovery nomodeset" on the kernel line
[18:11] <joe9> jhutchins_wk: any suggestions on where I can find the wubi questions answered?
[18:11] <vitimiti> th3pun15h3r, but i can't see myself using openbox, actually
[18:11] <vitimiti> thank you both for your answers
[18:12] <soee> hi, any steam user here ?
[18:12] <LTF> jrib: yes,but im not using grub
[18:12] <l057c0d3r> joe9 sorry missed your question.. what was it??  i have a wubi install and know a bit about it
[18:12] <arij> what channel can i go to, to talk about servers?
[18:12] <DJones> arij: There is #ubuntu-server
[18:12] <jrib> LTF: yes, I'm telling you what grub does so you can do it with whatever you are using :)  I'm not familiar with xosl
[18:12] <arij> #hardware?
[18:13] <ztgu> Hi. Is it possible for me to boot from the grub menu into linux in two modes. mode 1: A mode where I have the classic blacklist.conf file. Mode 2: where I blacklist powerconsuming devices???
[18:13] <joe9> l057c0d3r: i installed wubi to D: drive, but, on reboot, I do not see the grub menu. It directly boots into windows.
[18:13] <joe9> will the wubi install update the mbr's of all disks?
[18:13] <rfultz> Hey I was wondering if its possible to use the wps button on a router to connect to it from ubuntu 12.04 because I don't have the password for the encryption and am way too lazy to use rfmon
[18:13] <l057c0d3r> hmm.
[18:13] <joe9> or, do I have to change the bios to use the D: drive disk as the first priority disk?
[18:13] <l057c0d3r> one sec joe9  i might be able to pull some help up
[18:13] <joe9> l057c0d3r: does the question make sense?
[18:14] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: I think most modules can be disabled from the kernel boot option line in grub.
[18:15] <Success> uhm i wanted to say, that there is a glitch with (my|some hp laptop) batter(y|ies) that disable charging will dualbooting windows/ubuntu.
[18:15] <Success> s/will/(with/while)
[18:15] <KaRmA> Success, isn't charging a product of hardware not software ?
[18:16] <Mir09> joe9: maybe you have to change the boot sequence into grub
[18:16] <Success> KaRmA, no, there are drivers
[18:16] <KaRmA> Success, on which model? If I plug in any of my Hp laptops that i've had (5 or so) they all charge even while turned off.... so no software in play.
[18:16] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk, : How can this be done? Do you have any guides or anything?
[18:16] <joe9> Mir09: you mean bios, correct?
[18:16] <Success> HP dv7-3085dx
[18:17] <KaRmA> Success, so it has to be turned on + certain driver installed to charge? what a stupid design
[18:17] <AndreiCurelaru>  /ignore -channels #ubuntu * PARTS QUITS
[18:17] <Success> While I had ubuntu installed my battery wouldn't charge on windows, it always said plugged in but not charging, it would charge while turned off or lid closed though ( standby|hibernate )
[18:17] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: I don't know of a universal option to disable them, it may be by module, so you'd have to check the documentation for each one.
[18:18] <AndreiCurelaru>  /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS
[18:18] <Success> AndreiCurelaru, no the drivers are only needed while in OS
[18:18] <IdleOne> AndreiCurelaru: no space in front of the /
[18:18] <Success> ubuntu didn't seem to have the drivers and when installed messed it up. it wouldn't show charging or battery percentage or anything. and when on windows after install ubuntu my battery wouldn't charge
[18:18] <AndreiCurelaru> Ooops :)
[18:19] <Success> i was able to keep it alive with power off though. but i had to uninstall ubuntu because of it
[18:19] <Mir09> joe9: you check the bios if is correctly set, but what I mena is the sequence of the grub boot menu
[18:19] <AndreiCurelaru> did not see the space
[18:19] <KaRmA> Success, sorry to hear that, what a terrible device lol
[18:19] <ztgu> Is there anyone here who have experience booting linux from a Windows 8 computer. (installed by manufacturer)
[18:20] <AndreiCurelaru> But it works ... more readable the chan' is by now
[18:20] <Success> yeah its okay though i guess. I surely am going to miss ubuntu though. i finally got used to unity too
[18:20] <adrian_> hello all
[18:21] <Note_> is setting up a mail server on my vps running ubuntu easy enough done?
[18:21] <m3t4lukas> hey guys :) Is there any known error regarding mysql not starting on startup? I executed "sysv-rc-conf -priority" and saw the entry S20 on rl's 2,3,4 and 5. When I do "service mysql status" after boot/reboot it says mysql is not running. But i can start it by executing "service mysql start" without any shown errors. Thanks in advance
[18:21] <jrib> Note_: help.ubuntu.com has a server guide.  You probably want to read the documentation for whatever e-mail server you pick
[18:21] <gacd> .
[18:21] <Note_> What email server would you recommend?
[18:22] <Note_> I want to be able to use my own domain
[18:22] <jrib> Note_: I use exim
[18:22] <Note_> okay, thanks
[18:22] <nodestool> what is a good tutorial or place to start learning how i would do something like run a command constantly while the system is up simliar to while [ 1 ]; do somecommand; done
[18:22] <nodestool> stuff like /etc/init.d/ or with service somecomman
[18:23] <oconnore> So, I can trigger Xorg to use 60-100% CPU by scrolling a window in emacs, or firefox, or terminal. Is this a known bug, or should I report it?
[18:23] <atjehcyber> whare
[18:23] <jhutchins_wk> oconnore: Not a common problem.
[18:24] <Sarah333>  good evening
[18:24] <jhutchins_wk> oconnore: hardware details?  Which ubuntu?
[18:25] <thelinux> atjehcyber: Are you still online?
[18:25] <Note_> jrib: Would you know if its possible to set up a page on the nginx web page I've created on my vps where users can 'upload' to a directory with/from the browser, like someone would upload to say, megaupload, but have the files go into a directory anybody can download from?
[18:26] <atjehcyber> yes thelinux
[18:26] <atjehcyber> am still online
[18:26] <atjehcyber> am have put you commant on terminal
[18:26] <thelinux> atjehcyber: Have you solved the problem?
[18:26] <linuxthefish> how do i solve the "GRUB instalation failed" :(
[18:26] <jrib> Note_: You could certainly create something like that.  I don't know of any ready-made solutions I can recommend
[18:26] <atjehcyber> sudo apt-get upgrade firefox but until right now not finish
[18:26] <oconnore> jhutchins_wk: ubuntu 12.10, Xeon E5603, 6 GB ram, Nvidia Quadro NVS 295
[18:26] <Note_> jrib: I'll look into it and ask about, thank you :)
[18:27] <atjehcyber> and thelinux my firefox still can't respond for open well am have remove and sudo apt-get install firefox
[18:27] <atjehcyber> still can't open why ?
[18:27] <xkernel> When Ubuntu will use Wayland instead of X ?
[18:27] <thelinux> atjehcyber: It may be broken version, you can try to reinstall the Firefox: sudo apt-get purge firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox
[18:28] <Mir09> linuxthefish: have you check here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1949220
[18:28] <thelinux> xkernel: Not soon, it's needed to port alot of stuff to work on Wayland.
[18:28] <jhutchins_wk> oconnore: Shouldn't be happening.  are you running emacs on a console or inside and xterm?
[18:29] <jhutchins_wk> oconnore: Also, xorg drivers or nvidia drivers?
[18:29] <thelinux> xkernel: But I am learning C, C++ and Python so I can contribute to Wayland project.
[18:29] <oconnore> jhutchins_wk: I tried both drivers, currently nvidia. Emacs X11.
[18:30] <Success> what is wayland
[18:30] <thelinux> xkernel: I think it´s very ambitious and great decision that Ubuntu may use Wayland.
[18:30] <oconnore> jhutchins_wk: also, maximizing a window can take 10-15 seconds, during which the machine is frozen.
[18:30] <thelinux> Success: Display protocol. Similiar to Xorg.
[18:31] <Success> how is it better?
[18:31] <thelinux> Success: It's a lot faster and smoother, it can handle much more and use less resources. Check videos on Wayland.
[18:32] <jhutchins_wk> thelinux: I think it will be available as an option before it is made the default.
[18:32] <jhutchins_wk> oconnore: is 12.10 the only version you've run onit?
[18:32] <thelinux> xkernel: But I may be wrong, Ubutnu might soon start to develop more seriously on it soon, as I see there are not many poeple developing Wayland. I may contribute to that project soon.
[18:33] <oconnore> jhutchins_wk: the same thing happened on 12.04, before I upgraded.
[18:33] <LTF> hello
[18:33] <LTF> after changing motherboard ubuntu hangs or freezes at startup in the line "/usr/lib/connman/scripts/dhclient-script", someone knows how to enter in recovery mode without grub? (booting with xosl)
[18:33] <thelinux> jhutchins_wk: Yes, when it will came out there will be many bugs with it, and unsupported applications.
[18:33] <Success> uhg i want something to contribute on, but linux isn't an option for me anymore apparently :(
[18:33] <thelinux> jhutchins_wk: But they would be fixed quite soon.
[18:34] <jhutchins_wk> LTF: How long have you left it at that point?
[18:35] <LTF> its from around half hour
[18:35] <jhutchins_wk> Success: How can you say that?  There are so many different possible projects.
[18:35] <LTF> jhutchins_wk: from around half hour
[18:35] <jhutchins_wk> LTF: Ok, that was my mental guess for 'long enough'...
[18:36] <Guest59646> hi
[18:36] <jhutchins_wk> LTF: I don't know anyting about xosl, but you could probably boot from a recovery disk.  I think the install disks have recovery mode.
[18:37] <LTF> jhutchins_wk: try to boot with the install disc then
[18:41] <b00lcrap> mcrypt
[18:41] <b00lcrap> how can i pass a base64 encoded passphrase into it?
[18:47] <NeedVirus> I need a Virus for winXP
[18:48] <NeedVirus> ubuntu sucks
[18:48] <NeedVirus> ubuntu, Windows Master Race!
[18:48] <linuxthefish> troll!
[18:48] <devlos> aaaahhhhh!!!
[18:48] <NeedVirus> ubuntu sucks, Windows Master Race
[18:48] <kslater> can someone tell me what package udevinfo is in?
[18:48] <kslater> or does it exist for 12.04.1?
[18:50] <kslater> maybe I'm supposed to use udevadm info instead..
[18:50] <KPSingh> hi i have a problem in openldap configuration i m not able to locate slapd.conf file means there is no such file
[18:52] <KPSingh> hi i have a problem in openldap configuration i m not able to locate slapd.conf file means there is no such file
[18:52] <usr13> kslater:  I think so
[18:53] <kslater> haha, love bash tricks -> alias udevinfo='udevadm info'
[18:53] <viju> hi
[18:54] <viju> hi
[18:54] <usr13> kslater: udevadm info -q all -n /dev/sda
[18:54] <usr13> kslater: Like:  udevadm info -q all -n /dev/sda1
[18:54] <thomedy> excuse me i downloaded the google talk .deb package for ubuntu 32 bit... and then i went into software center and installed there and i tried doing the sudo dpkg -i but it doesnt seem to be on my system
[18:55] <viju> I have downloaded a chrome package , now after double clicking on it , it opens software manager but clicking on install , nothing happens
[18:55] <kslater> thanks usr13
[18:55] <kslater> it was easier to define an alias as I'm following along with some instructions that use udevinfo a lot
[18:55] <viju> anyone got idea?
[18:55] <thomedy> i believe i have the lates lts in ubuntu
[18:55] <viju> as why it's not installing
[18:55] <usr13> thomedy: What was the file name?
[18:56] <thomedy> google-talkplugin_current_i386.deb
[18:56] <hexabit_M> .Helo from Sweden! I coded a ircclient (like a bot) for blind people that reads all msgs out loud in speakers. Would it be ok to test it for a couple of days in this channel?
[18:57] <jrib> hexabit_M: please join us in #ubuntu-ops
[18:57] <usr13> thomedy: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |grep google
[18:57] <jhutchins_wk> hexabit_M: It would certainly be fine to have it monitor the traffic as long as it wasn't posting back.
[18:57] <thomedy> one sec thank you
[18:58] <jhutchins_wk> viju: Try it from the command line - dpkg -i <file>
[18:58] <viju> jhutchins_wk, ok
[18:58] <ikra> hi all, i have a problem with suspend: with kernel <IP_ADDRESS> it works well, but after upgraded to <IP_ADDRESS> it doesn't, if install newer kernel the problem still, but if i use <IP_ADDRESS> it works again. So i think it's a "kernel" configuration problem, what test could i make what data do you need to help me understand this problem? thanks!
[18:58] <hexabit_M> Well it wont be sending just reading.
[18:59] <thomedy> im prety sure its there some where cuz i see googl-talkpugin.list, .md5sums, .postinst, .postrm
[18:59] <jhutchins_wk> hexabit_M: Should be fine here then.
[18:59] <ztgu> how can I boot a usb device from grub?
[18:59] <usr13> thomedy: It's there.  So restart firefox and go to your gmail and you should have the option to dial out.
[19:00] <hexabit_M> ok thanks allot!! :)
[19:00] <usr13> thomedy: ... or video-conference
[19:00] <thomedy> thank you
[19:00] <ztgu> I need to boot my usb device from grub. But I don't know how, is there anyone here who knows?
[19:01] <usr13> ztgu: It is a matter of your BIOS
[19:02] <ztgu> usr13: I can
[19:02] <devlos> ztgu, do you have linux running off hard drive with grub installed? if so make sure use is mounted then run sudo grub-update.
[19:02] <devlos> usb** not use is mounted
[19:02] <viju> thanks jhutchins_wk  , it worked
[19:02] <Note_> Whats the best thing to install and configure on a ubuntu vps to secure it well?
[19:02] <Note_> And where could I find tutorials on how to do so, I'm new to all of this
[19:04] <ztgu> user13, devlos : I can't boot from the BIOS, don't know why. I have linux installed on my hard drive with grub installed, my usb mounted. but grub-update won't let me boot into my usb.
[19:04] <madwilliamflint> It may be your bios that's not letting you boot from usb, not likely grub.
[19:04] <crocodileblood> hey i had problems for  while getting dual display in ubuntu
[19:04] <crocodileblood> is that fixed in 12.4?
[19:04] <crocodileblood> (was 11.x)
[19:04] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: You will need to figure out how to get to the bios boot menu.
[19:05] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: The bios determines which device in which order.
[19:05] <usr13> ztgu: Some PCs require hitting F10 or F12 for "Boot options"
[19:05] <jhutchins_wk> Although....
[19:05] <jhutchins_wk> You should be able to chain from grub on an hd to a usb.
[19:06] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: Are you trying to add the usb to the grub menu?
[19:06] <devlos> ztgu,  when yu sudo grub-update you sould see if it saw and added linux from usb to grub on hard drive. if it does you can reboot and boot usb from internal hard drives grub, no bios involved. make sense?
[19:07] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: I have a windows 8 preinstalled laptop. the f2 used to work to boot into device (when only win8), but now after the grub is installed It doesn't work,
[19:07] <ztgu> devlos: I will try it later.
[19:08] <ztgu> devlos: But doesn't think it will work though, since it's a usb and not installed yet somewhere
[19:08] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: what does it do?
[19:09] <zfe_> hello
[19:09] <zfe> hello
[19:09] <zfe> i've been reading guides to make BCM4331 cards work
[19:09] <zfe> and they are all very long, while i found a 1 command procedure
[19:09] <zfe> can i update it anywhere?
[19:10] <ztgu> I have not selected EFI path for win8 just yet, so I have to go into the bios to boot win8 (I do it rarely) But my compter boots straight into grub, no menu. THe f2 menu is integrated in the windows 8 boot, which will appear after booting win8
[19:10] <jrib> !wireless  | ztgu
[19:10] <jrib> ztgu: sorry that was meant for zfe
[19:10] <jrib> zfe: the link ubottu posted is a wiki; you can edit it
[19:10] <devlos> ztgu, ?? are you asking or telling?
[19:11] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: Look at the grub options to set a delay and to make sure there's more than one option.  If there's only one option it might not wait.
[19:13] <ztgu> devlos: jhutchins_wk : I can boot into several things from the grub. The reason why I want to boot my bootable usb from grub is that the F2 boot menu integrated in win8 boot doesn't work after I installed grub. So I guess I need to boot my device from grub somehow
[19:13] <TheCrownedFox> Hi! So, I have a raid 1 array that I am trying to mount with ubuntu 12.04, however I'm getting an error saying that one or more block devicces are holding /dev/dm-0 and I'm not entirely sure why.
[19:14] <devlos> ztgu, i told you how already..
[19:14] <ztgu> devlos: I will give it a try now. If it doesn't work. I will be back..
[19:15] <nemos> Please help i freshly installed windows 7 and ubuntu12.10 added with win and i dont have grub meny it goes directly to windows
[19:16] <ztgu> I just did the sudo update-grub
[19:16] <TomyLobo> install windows first, then ubuntu
[19:16] <TomyLobo> did you do that, nemos?
[19:16] <bekks> nemos: You have to fix your grub2.
[19:16] <bekks> !grub2 | nemos
[19:16] <ztgu> It didn't find anything else than my sda drive
[19:17] <RFleming> Greetings!
[19:17] <RFleming> how do I add 256 color support to my TTYs?
[19:17] <devlos> Ztgu, did you mount the usb with the linux you are trying to boot?
[19:17] <jhutchins_wk> !fixgrub
[19:18] <jhutchins_wk> Sorry, still learning the bot.
[19:18] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: Was the usb drive mounted (not just plugged in)?
[19:18] <ztgu> devlos: THe usb is mounted into my linux system, yes.
[19:19] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: I suppose you could try doing update-grub with it un-mounted, see if it detects it then, but you can always add a manual entry.
[19:19] <ztgu> It's plugged in, and also mounted
[19:20] <ztgu> How does the manual entry work then?
[19:20] <troop> hello
[19:22] <KP> i am not able to locate slapd.conf file in the dir it is missing
[19:22] <troop> does boot.log refresh in every boot?
[19:22] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: Have a look at the documentation.  I'm not current on grub2 for ubuntu.
[19:22] <jrib> KP: what is "the dir"?
[19:22] <giirmmm> i have a question
[19:23] <jhutchins_wk> KP: Chances are you have to create it.
[19:23] <giirmmm> I am using Gnome Xchat...how do I change my whois info?
[19:23] <KP> ok
[19:23] <KP> so should i download a sample from net
[19:24] <jrib> KP: I'd start by checking /usr/share/doc/slapd
[19:24] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: Why, look what I found: http://kagashe.blogspot.com/2009/10/how-to-make-manual-entry-in-grub2-on.html
[19:25] <KP> wait a sec
[19:25] <jhutchins_wk> KP: Read the docs first.  There is probably a sample supplied.
[19:25] <joe9> my wubi installation keeps failing with this message: http://codepad.org/2MoQyJ3u
[19:25] <joe9> any thoughts, please?
[19:25] <Guest68542> #ubut
[19:25] <jhutchins_wk> giirmmm: To what forinstance?
[19:25] <KP> jhutchins: nothing i have searched everywhere
[19:25] <Guest68542> join #ubuntu-it
[19:25] <Guest68542> sorry!
[19:25] <KP> nothing in internet abt it
[19:25] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: I will check it out
[19:25] <joe9> this is the exact message http://codepad.org/9zqGx58H
[19:26] <KP> ok i am checking the usr one
[19:26] <Guest68542> !list
[19:26] <TheCrownedFox> Hi! So, I have a raid 1 array that I am trying to mount with ubuntu 12.04, however I'm getting an error saying that one or more block devicces are holding /dev/dm-0 and I'm not entirely sure why.
[19:26] <jhutchins_wk> giirmmm: Try it yourself and see.
[19:27] <Guest68542> bye
[19:28] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: When it comes to mounting in terminal this time. I made a usbflash dir inside /mnt. If I do the following command: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbflash. What happens then?
[19:28] <troop> Starting crash report submission daemon -> is it problem?
[19:28] <devlos> Ztgu,  i just realized i was saying that backwords, sudo update-grub... make sure usb is mounted, run sudo update-grub, reboot into grub on hd, look for new entry for the usb.
[19:30] <ztgu> devlos: I know you update-grub is the right command. But the output doesn't show my usb.
[19:31] <ztgu> devlos jhutchins_wk : I will give it a try now anyways. will be back
[19:31] <devlos> ztgu, use filemanager to see if it is mounted or   ls /mnt/usbflash   in terminal
[19:31] <troop> Skipping profile in /etc/apparmor.d/disable: usr.bin.firefox    -> is it bug?
[19:32] <ztgu> devlos: I had the same output from : sudo update grub when both mounted and unmounted, It's not a good sign, for my boot to work. (I think)
[19:32] <lacrymology> is there a way I can run apt-get update on a specific repo? for some reason ar.archive.ubuntu.com is failing big time
[19:32] <TomyLobo> lacrymology edit your sources.list
[19:33] <ztgu> devlos, jhutchins_wk : going to check out grub menu anyways, brb
[19:34] <jhutchins_wk> giirmmm: You can get a "cloak" which will let you change the whois info.  Usually this is done by contributing or donating to a project supported by freenode.
[19:34] <jhutchins_wk> giirmmm: Join #freenode and ask there for details.
[19:35] <nibbler> can someone point me to some documentation about initramfs in ubuntu? in which order are the scripts under scripts/ executed? init-premount? local-premount? local-top?
[19:35] <KP> jhutchins: i found the sample file in usr path so can i use it
[19:35] <KP> sorry new to ubuntu and ldapserver
[19:36] <jhutchins_wk> KP: The reason things like that aren't automatic is because you really do need to read the docs and understand what you're doing, not just use a generic default.
[19:36] <ztgu> WEll, it didn't work
[19:36] <KP> i read those ubntu docs but the problem was the solution was in 12.04 doc and there was no entries in 12.10 docs abt ldap
[19:36] <ztgu> There was no usb in my grub menu
[19:37] <ztgu> would be wierd anyways
[19:37] <KP> and i was not able to locate the slapd.conf file
[19:38] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: That has to do with the state of the device when grub loads.  The system has to present the USB devices without any drivers or anything loaded yet.
[19:39] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: If the USB device is listed as an option in the BIOS that might make a difference, but it sounds like you might be working with some sort of efi system.
[19:40] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk:  EFI, correct,  My usb is listed as an option in bios, can't boot it from bios anyways.
[19:41] <bronaugh> ok, so using unity. periodically the icons in the launcher on the left seem to scroll or some such, such that only the bottom of the bottom icon is visible at the top of the launcher.
[19:41] <bronaugh> what's the workaround / fix for this?
[19:42] <Phoenixz> Anybody who knows what is up with java on ubuntu? I tried installing eclipse, failed completely because (it seems that) java is no longer packaged with ubuntu.. or somehting like that? I had to install some crappy oracle package that would install java for me.. ? anybody who knows what happened with that?
[19:42] <bekks> !java | Phoenixz
[19:42] <bronaugh> (ubuntu 12.04 fwiw)
[19:42] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: Advice? Possible to have the usb in a mounted state at grub?
[19:42] <bronaugh> I believe it's 12.04 anyways.
[19:43] <TheCrownedFox> Hi! So, I have a raid 1 array that I am trying to mount with ubuntu 12.04, however I'm getting an error saying that one or more block devices are holding /dev/dm-0 and I'm not entirely sure why.
[19:44] <Phoenixz> bekks: Well, would "apt-get install eclipse" not install these requisits for me?
[19:45] <bronaugh> TheCrownedFox: you're using dmraid?
[19:47] <Ztyxx> hi (?)
[19:47] <Phoenixz> I can't get eclipse to run at all on ubuntu :( Just sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre, no results, same problem
[19:47] <TheCrownedFox> bronaugh: I don't think so, I've never heard of it. I'm using the intel raid bus controller built into my motherboard because I need to access my drives from both ubuntu and a windows 7 partition
[19:47] <ph4nt0m> Bonjour à ts! Je suis en train d'installer Ubuntu minimal sur eeepc x101ch: ce que je souhaiterai savoir c si c normal que quand g l'écran mauve cela prenne autant de temp
[19:47] <ph4nt0m> 30Min environ
[19:48] <ph4nt0m> Svp
[19:48] <Pici> !fr | ph4nt0m
[19:48] <Ztyxx> huh…it's my first time here, is there anybody who can help me?
[19:48] <ph4nt0m> Uops sorry
[19:48] <bronaugh> ok, so guys, seriously. this is a huge fucking bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/806248
[19:49] <bronaugh> TheCrownedFox: yeah. the subsystem that does that is called "dmraid".
[19:49] <ph4nt0m> Is that normal that when i install minimal Ubuntu it takes à lomg long time whit thé packets dl?
[19:50] <jrib> ph4nt0m: maybe you are just using a slow mirror?
[19:50] <DJones> Ztyxx: Ask your question, if somebody knows, they'll probably offer some assistance
[19:50] <ph4nt0m> À oki that what i think
[19:50] <ph4nt0m> Its for 30 min now
[19:51] <TheCrownedFox> bronaugh: ah ok. well I shall begin googling that then. Do you happen to know what going on off hand?
[19:52] <bronaugh> TheCrownedFox: haven't used dmraid; but it looks like 'lsof' might help.
[19:52] <bronaugh> it'll list what has what files open. might help to narrow things down.
[19:52] <ztgu> why doesn't my fdisk -l command have any output?
[19:53] <TheCrownedFox> bronaugh: I have used lsof, and was unable to find anything mentioning my raid drives with grep.
[19:53] <djono> hello all im having troubles enabling glash on chrome
[19:53] <fyksen> I want to do a clean install of ubuntu 12.10. I got 2x 80GB SSD's. I want to have them like one drive. (like RAID0), is there a way to do this with LVM, in the graphical Ubuntu 12.10 installation?
[19:53] <Ztyxx> Thx DJOnes;   I just installed Ubuntu alongside Windows 7 on my netbook, but now nothing works anymore, neither windows nor ubuntu boots anymore….and everything seemed so noob proof
[19:54] <Ztyxx> Ubuntu 12.10
[19:55] <wassy121> Hi all.  Is there a directive I can use to make ifup wait for the "eth0 link ready" state to happen in 10.04?
[19:55] <Ztyxx> is there any known pronlem?
[19:55] <wassy121> on rare occasions, when the machine is rebooted, it fails to get a DHCP address due to the link being down when it queries
[19:56] <ph4nt0m> Thx for your answer jrib
[19:56] <DJones> Ztyxx: Can you give more details, what happens when Ubuntu boots
[19:56] <Ztyxx> wassy: are u talking to me?
[19:57] <DJones> Ztyxx: At what point does it fail to boot etc
[19:57] <Ztyxx> it doesn't even get to a graphical interface… it reads commands like "Starting save kernel message"  and stays there for at least an hour
[19:58] <Ztyxx> I am rebooting atm, to get the messages
[19:58] <blim> how do I make a program use a specific core?
[19:59] <Ztyxx> unfortunately I don't know what to look for…but it says "automatic crash report generation"
[19:59] <bronaugh> TheCrownedFox: yeah, sorry :/ wish I could help more, but no experience here.
[19:59] <troop> is apparmor really necessary for single home desktop users?
[19:59] <Ztyxx> "anac(h)ronistic cron"
[20:00] <Ztyxx> "CPU interrupts balancing daemon"
[20:00] <Ztyxx> (I am just listing those messages which sound like probs to me)
[20:02] <jjason> hello!
[20:02] <Ztyxx> it finally stops at "stopping save kernel message"
[20:02] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: u there?
[20:02] <jhutchins_wk> Sorta.
[20:03] <jjason> anybody know if wubi can handle trim yet?
[20:03] <jjason> or if trim really even matters
[20:03] <bekks> jjason: Yes, it cant.
[20:03] <Nukien_> I have a cronjob that runs as a user to perform some updates. When it's finished it needs to be able to restart php-fpm but that needs root privs. What would be the cleanest way to do that? I'm guessing an entry in /etc/sudoers.d/myapp but how to restrict to *just* be able to run "/etc/init.d/php-fpm restart"?
[20:04] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: the link u sent me, why: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libdebian-installer4 ???
[20:04] <jjason> bekks: does trim really matter with ssd?
[20:04] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: No idea.
[20:05] <bekks> jjason: Yes, it does.
[20:06] <jjason> bekks: since win7 i have just used wubi, but now i have an ssd..
[20:06] <jjason> bekks: i now see 7 needs 2 primary partitions
[20:06] <jjason> bekks: stupid 100mb thing..
[20:07] <jjason> with 8g of ram, does ubuntu need swap partition?
[20:07] <ph4nt0m> Jrib thé led of my hdd and my dvdrom are off for a wile now is that normal dont u know?
[20:07] <bekks> jjason: When you are going to use suspend2disk, you need 8GB swap at least.
[20:08] <jjason> bekks: i have a second internal..  could i use that for ubuntu swap?
[20:08] <KsM> bekks: what
[20:08] <bekks> jjason: Sure.
[20:08] <bekks> KsM: suspend2disk needs as much swap as RAM installed in your computer.
[20:09] <KsM> wouldn't hibernating/suspending to disk only need as much swap as the RAM *being used*
[20:09] <klpkt> Hello; I have a problem, can anyone help me? I am running Ubuntu 12.10 multibooted with Windows, and one day I wanted to make it easier to access the Windows partition from Ubuntu, and I, since I don't know very much about how changing permissions can really screw me, used sudo chmod to change the permissions so that I could rename it. Now, Ubuntu sees the Windows partition as some kind of non-folder item, and it also does that to any CD-RO
[20:09] <klpkt> Ms that I put into it. Can anyone help me figure out the problem?
[20:09] <jjason> i thought it just whats being used, yeah ksm
[20:09] <ikra> hi all, i have a problem with suspend: with kernel <IP_ADDRESS> it works well, but after upgraded to <IP_ADDRESS> it doesn't, if install newer kernel the problem still, but if i use <IP_ADDRESS> it works again. So i think it's a "kernel" configuration problem, what test could i make what data do you need to help me understand this problem? thanks!
[20:09] <bekks> KsM: And what if 8GB are in use...?
[20:10] <jjason> what happens if my session is using more ram than what i have, through virtual ram, and i suspend to a swap thats only as big as physical?
[20:10] <dpurgert> people still use virtual ram?
[20:10] <bekks> dpurgert: Sure.
[20:10] <jjason> i dunno.  it can happen
[20:10] <blim> how do I make a program use a specific core?
[20:10] <KsM> bekks: then it'll be really slow if you have enough swap
[20:11] <KsM> and if not, it'll kick you back out
[20:11] <jjason> oh, it just wont suspend?
[20:11] <dpurgert> jjason, then you need to have enough swap for the virtual ram (which is in swap anyway, IIRC)
[20:11] <bekks> jjason: Correct.
[20:12] <KsM> If you don't have enough swap as a swap partition, you can always just make a swapfile or whatever
[20:12] <jjason> so..  if my system doesnt generally use more than say..  4gigs, then i can make a 4gig swap just to be able to sleep, and if im over, then it wont sleep unless i close programs?
[20:12] <bekks> jjason: No. :)
[20:12] <KsM> I have 4gb of ram and 2gb swap, I never usually go above 1.5gb
[20:13] <jjason> bekks: no..  what part of that was wrong?
[20:13] <bekks> jjason: You have to ensure that you are not _using_ more than 4GB RAM - which can be used by one application.
[20:13] <bekks> KsM: I have 16GB and I usually use between 12GB and 16GB. Different use cases.
[20:13] <jjason> my ubuntu is just desktop web browsing / documet stuff
[20:14] <ph4nt0m> Îs that normal that when my cd of install of Ubuntu minimal. Is running and that it is downloading packets thé led of my hdd and cd rom are off?
[20:14] <jjason> omg what are you doing to use 12g of ram?
[20:14] <EndUserX> hello again
[20:14] <bekks> jjason: Running VMs for different application development stuff.
[20:14] <ph4nt0m> Please
[20:14] <jjason> bekks: oh.  that sounds fun
[20:14] <klpkt> Hello; I have a problem, can anyone help me? I am running Ubuntu 12.10 multibooted with Windows, and one day I wanted to make it easier to access the Windows partition from Ubuntu, and I, since I don't know very much about how changing permissions can really screw me, used sudo chmod to change the permissions so that I could rename it. Now, Ubuntu sees the Windows partition as some kind of non-folder item, and it also does that to any CD-RO
[20:14] <klpkt> Ms that I put into it. Can anyone help me figure out the problem?
[20:14] <EndUserX> I have another prob. Anyone know how to fix a bad substitution error when trying to run lastpass_install.sh
[20:15] <jjason> so, wait..  i can?  or cannot have a swap with less space than my ram?
[20:15] <bekks> jjason: You cant, correct.
[20:15] <dpurgert> klpkt, what permissions did you change
[20:15] <jjason> if i dont generally use
[20:15] <jjason> hm
[20:15] <bekks> jjason: At least not for suspend2disk.
[20:16] <jjason> you mentioned a swap file
[20:16] <jjason> this is on ubuntu partition?
[20:16] <bekks> jjason: Generally, you can have SWAP < RAM -- being unable to suspend2disk.
[20:16] <bekks> jjason: Yes. And you would have to have a file as big as your RAM. Alas: wasting space.
[20:16] <lucido> ubuntu fails to start on my old ass amd xp machine with abit siluro fx5200 with nvidia drivers
[20:17] <klpkt> dpburgert: I'm not completely sure, but I think that I took the permissions from the Hard Drive partition, which was something with ECA4... I have now switched the name in Windows, which helped. I think I changed it to 777.
[20:17] <lucido> I mean unity fails to start
[20:17] <lucido> or freezes
[20:17] <dpurgert> lucido, make sure you have the i386 distro and not the x64/i686 distro
[20:17] <bekks> dpurgert: Because...?
[20:17] <jjason> so its the ubuntu equivalent of pagefile?
[20:17] <bekks> jjason: Yes.
[20:18] <lucido> dpurgert, i386 is the only one that installs
[20:18] <jjason> bekks" well, that way, i can resize it or delete it at least, right
[20:18] <dpurgert> bekks, because AMD_XP processors were 32 bit :)
[20:18] <bekks> jjason: Which doesnt give you any benefits at all.
[20:18] <bekks> dpurgert: :D
[20:19] <lucido>  how can I debug unity, what logfiles to watch?
[20:19] <ph4nt0m> Îs that normal that when my cd of install of Ubuntu minimal. Is running and that it is downloading packets thé led of my hdd and cd rom are off?
[20:19] <ph4nt0m> Please
[20:19] <jjason> bekks: if i realize i dont need it, i can just delete instead of having the opportunity to kill everything with gparted
[20:19] <bekks> ph4nt0m: Yes.
[20:19] <ph4nt0m> Ok haw lomg can it take?
[20:19] <bekks> jjason: Why not just having it, in case you'll need and you dont even know you need it?
[20:20] <jjason> bekks: small ssd
[20:20] <bekks> ph4nt0m: Until all needed packages are downloaded.
[20:20] <ph4nt0m> How long*
[20:20] <jhutchins_wk> jjason: You can have swap smaller than your ram.
[20:20] <bekks> jjason: How small?
[20:20] <dpurgert> klpkt, 777 is 'rwx' (read/write/execute) permissions for owner/group/"global" so it shouldn't do anything "terrible"
[20:20] <jjason> 250
[20:20] <ph4nt0m> Oki bekks thx
[20:20] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: We've gone though all that already. It's about swap for suspend2disk now.
[20:20] <Magellanicus> hi everyone
[20:21] <Magellanicus> how can i remove an icon from the top panel in gnome shell
[20:21] <bekks> jjason: Thats 2x of mine. And I am using 16GB for swap.
[20:21] <Billcr48> quick question, how can I bind CTRL+LEFT CLICK to issue RIGHT CLICK (12.04 LTS)
[20:21] <Magellanicus> ubuntu 12.04?
[20:21] <dpurgert> Magellanicus, should be as simple as right-click -> remove from panel ...
[20:21] <klpkt> dpburgert, Yeah, but after I did it, I can't access anything on Windows at all.
[20:21] <jjason> jhutchins_wk: whats the danger of being smaller than ram?  just losing ability to suspend?
[20:21] <jhutchins_wk> jjason: Yes.
[20:21] <dpurgert> klpkt, I fail to see the problem there ;)  or do you mean that you can't access anything on the NTFS partition while in linux?
[20:22] <bekks> jjason: Everything else like data, etc. does not reside on the SSD. And taking that into account, the system is smaller than 30GB, even with several copy of several custom build kernel source trees.
[20:22] <jjason> jhutchins_wk: and its just a situation where, if current use > swap, suspend will fail until i close some stuff?
[20:22] <jhutchins_wk> Once you go over 2G of RAM there's not much point in increasing the swap size.
[20:22] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: Unless you want to use suspend2disk.
[20:22] <jhutchins_wk> jjason: No, suspend to disk will never work if swap is less than RAM.  Suspend to RAM will still work (if your hardware supports it).
[20:23] <dpurgert> klpkt, but in seriousness ... if you can't get at the ntfs data, try unmounting it (sudo umount /mnt/whatever) and then try remounting it manually
[20:23] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: Thats where we've already been... -.-
[20:23] <jjason> suspend2disk is linux hibernate, right?
[20:23] <Magellanicus> it doesnt appear that option
[20:23] <Billcr48> anybody here good with issuing keyboard shortcuts?
[20:23] <Magellanicus> dpurgert
[20:23] <dpurgert> also, you _may_ need to fix your fstab, depending on how borked it got
[20:23] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: Sorry to rerun it then.
[20:23] <klpkt> dpburgert, When I am in Ubuntu, and I try to open the Windows partition, it says 'The folder contents could not be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "gustav"', gustav being the name of my partition.
[20:23] <dpurgert> Magellanicus, yes?
[20:24] <jjason> suspend2disk is hibernate, and suspend2ram is sleep?  and suspend2ram will work without any swap at all, right?
[20:24] <jhutchins_wk> klpkt: Do you have ntfs3g installed?
[20:24] <Magellanicus> it doestn work
[20:24] <bluezone> lol
[20:24] <klpkt> jhutchins_wk, How do I check it?
[20:24] <Magellanicus> theres no remove from panel option
[20:24] <Magellanicus> when i right click on the,
[20:24] <Magellanicus> dpurgert
[20:24] <jhutchins_wk> klpkt: Well, first, do you remember installing it?  Next, dpkg -l
[20:25] <dpurgert> Magellanicus, did you lock the taskbar perhaps?
[20:25] <jhutchins_wk>  klpkt dpkg -l | grep ntfs
[20:25] <jhutchins_wk> klpkt: also cat /proc/filesystems
[20:25] <klpkt> jhutchins_wk, I have a package ntfs-3g, yes.
[20:25] <Magellanicus> how do i unlock it?
[20:26] <dpurgert> did you accidentally change the owner/group on the mount?
[20:26] <jjason> ok, thanks for the info
[20:26] <Magellanicus> dpurgert how do i unlock the taskbar¡
[20:26] <Magellanicus> ?
[20:26] <dpurgert> Magellanicus, with ... which desktop?  Unity, Gnome, KDE ... ?
[20:26] <Magellanicus> gnome shell
[20:26] <Magellanicus> ubuntu 12.04
[20:27] <klpkt> dpurgert, I don't know, I can't find anything saying who is the owner.
[20:27] <dpurgert> Magellanicus, OK, with the bar across the left hand side; or did you convert back to Gnome2/3 (or whatever) to have the taskbar across the top again?
[20:27] <jeffrey_> does anyone know how to obtain the source-code for a "Meta Package"?
[20:28] <jeffrey_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnustep
[20:28] <dpurgert> klpkt, where's it mounted?  should be something like "/mnt/name"
[20:28] <Magellanicus> i have two bars one at the top and one at the bottom
[20:28] <Magellanicus> i havent modified anything
[20:28] <jeffrey_> It appears that the gnustep packages have not been built yet
[20:28] <Magellanicus> except
[20:28] <klpkt> dpurgert: The /mnt folder is empty, but the file itself seems to be in /media.
[20:28] <Magellanicus> that i have added firefox (which i want to remove) to the top bar of gnome shell
[20:29] <dpurgert> Magellanicus, OK, so the old gnome desktop.  It should be as simple as "right click the thing on the bar, and choose the "remove" option"
[20:29] <dpurgert> or drag it off... it's been a while since I messed with it, and I'm playing with the unity desktop at the moment
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> dpurgert  Magellanicus try super-alt right click on the bar
[20:30] <dpurgert> klpkt, ok so then go to /media -- it's automounting it (same as if it were a USB drive)
[20:30] <dpurgert> then do ls -l
[20:30] <jhutchins_wk> klpkt: That's usually because it's not in fstab.  You may be able to set it up in fstab so that ordinary users have rights to it.  It's probably root-only now.
[20:30] <jhutchins_wk> klpkt: Safe but kinda dumb default.
[20:31] <ago_> avatar
[20:31] <jeffrey_> when I do a: apt-get install gnustep gnustep-devel doesn't produce a working system on v12.10
[20:31] <Magellanicus> what its super-alt right click
[20:31] <Magellanicus> ?
[20:31] <klpkt> dpurgert, jhutchins_wk: What do you mean?
[20:31] <Magellanicus> how do i do that
[20:31] <jhutchins_wk> klpkt:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[20:31] <Magellanicus> alt right click doesnt show me the option "remove"
[20:31] <t2mahesh> can some one tell me, how can I know which programs are using network/internet and on which port(s). a terminal command will be a great help.
[20:32] <dpurgert> I'd do with the "unmount it and remount it manually" option
[20:32] <Osmodivs1> Does anyone knows what's wrong with this commands? I am trying to compile something: or i in *.rpm; do sudo alien -cv $i; done
[20:32] <Osmodivs1> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[20:32] <ph4nt0m> Netstats
[20:32] <ph4nt0m> Mashed
[20:33] <jhutchins_wk> Osmodivs1: Are you really missing an f?
[20:33] <ph4nt0m>  t2mahesh. Type netstats in a Shell
[20:33] <t2mahesh> ph4nt0m: thanks :) i had forgotten this command
[20:33] <Osmodivs1> jhutchins_wk: I do not know, I am just copy-pasting
[20:33] <ph4nt0m> Np
[20:34] <shojo> it's netstat, not netstats
[20:34] <Osmodivs1> jhutchins_wk: Can you tell what's wtong here?
[20:34] <klpkt> jhutchins_wk: Okay, I don't understand anything of what that says...
[20:34] <jhutchins_wk> Osmodivs1: As pasted, "for" is missing the leading f.
[20:34] <ph4nt0m> Shojo oki
[20:34] <ph4nt0m> I missted
[20:34] <t2mahesh> shojo: ya, i figured that out ;)
[20:35] <shojo> t2mahesh: oh ok, what r u trying to do cuz i just joined the chan and i didn't see the question
[20:35] <Osmodivs1> jhutchins_wk: Oh no, no no, This is the correct command: for i in *.rpm; do sudo alien -cv $i; done But I get this in return: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[20:35] <jhutchins_wk> Osmodivs1: Hm.
[20:36] <dpurgert> shouldn't it be something like for i in `ls *rpm`; do ... stuff ... ?
[20:36] <t2mahesh> shojo: some thing was using my internet a lot, so was wondering what is that. so asked for, how to know. it was disturbing while playing game :D
[20:37] <Osmodivs1> dpurgert: Well, this is how was written in the README file
[20:37] <ph4nt0m> If u play game t2mahesh cut ur torrent à all u dont use
[20:37] <shojo> t2mahesh: easiest way to monitor your connections is firestarter firewall
[20:37] <dpurgert> Osmodivs1, that presents an interesting challenge.  thing is, you're not setting anything to iterate over
[20:38] <Osmodivs1> Type the following in a single line, include the “done” ( PRECISELY AS WRITTEN HERE, DO A COPY / PASTE ):Links:
[20:38] <Osmodivs1> for i in *.rpm; do sudo alien -cv $i; done
[20:38] <shojo> i'm sorry, i meant easier, not easiest... idk what the easiest would be. But firestarter does it continuously
[20:38] <blim> Ive managed to install ubuntu on my xbox but only one controller will work at any one time
[20:38] <Osmodivs1> (the command will take a while to complete!)
[20:38] <t2mahesh> shojo: cool. hope that has a gui
[20:38] <shojo> yes, it does, t2mahesh  and it's really easy
[20:39] <Ben64> Osmodivs1: what are you trying to install from rpm? that could be dangerous, and isn't supported here
[20:39] <dpurgert> worked for me (though I don't have alien ...)
[20:39] <jhutchins_wk> Osmodivs1: for i in $(ls *.rpm);
[20:39] <shojo> t2mahesh: then if you find unknown unauthorised connections, you can block them
[20:39] <Osmodivs1> Ben64: I am trying to install Autodesk Maya
[20:40] <Ben64> jhutchins_wk: not supposed to use ls in scripts
[20:40] <jhutchins_wk> Ben64: Who says it's a script?
[20:40] <Ben64> jhutchins_wk: the "for i in"
[20:40] <jhutchins_wk> Ben64: I'm sure I would be scorned in #bash, but that will work.
[20:41] <t2mahesh> shojo: thanks, installed that
[20:41] <dpurgert> Ben64, so how would you go about it then?
[20:41] <shojo> t2mahesh: glad to help
[20:41] <Osmodivs1> This is part of the instructions: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1507661/
[20:43] <jhutchins_wk> Osmodivs1: Is that from autodesk support?
[20:43] <Osmodivs1> jhutchins_wk: Nope.
[20:43] <Osmodivs1> jhutchins_wk: I guess I am on my own then...
[20:43] <djono> hello do hex editors allow opening a file of 8.5 gb?
[20:43] <jhutchins_wk> Osmodivs1: Ok, be aware that there are a lot of things in ubuntu that are not in the places they would be on an rpm system.
[20:44] <jhutchins_wk> Osmodivs1: Even across various rpm distributions there are variations, and installing say a Mandriva RPM on a Fedora system might work - for a while.
[20:45] <dpurgert> djono, probably ... but, um why're you needing to open that's 8.5G?
[20:45] <jhutchins_wk> Osmodivs1: The syntax I posted should work though.
[20:46] <djono> i need to hex edit an iso. i tried in all the hex editors available and they keep closing out when trying to copy or out of memory error
[20:46] <dpurgert> djono, bwah?
[20:47] <djono> when i get it opened i try the select all in edit and click copy once that happens the program closes
[20:47] <jrib> djono: why do you want to hex edit an iso?
[20:47] <djono> to fix
[20:47] <djono> to fix it
[20:48] <Guest5288> im so confus
[20:48] <jrib> djono: how is it broken?
[20:48] <nixbag> i have a question regarding the 'commandline expert install' method. during the package manager config, it asks if i want services enabled for security, partners, and extras archives, with 'security' being the only one checkmarked. i was already asked to add universe and multiverse earlier in the install, so what do these archive service options mean?
[20:48] <djono> i don't think im able to talk about it here
[20:48] <jrib> djono: ok, well good luck with your issue
[20:49] <djono> just a truncated iso
[20:49] <dpurgert> djono, um ... 8.5GB of hex data is ... ~8 billion characters ... if you're good enough to "fix" the flaws in that much data
[20:49] <dreamon> installed vsftpd. how can I remove vsftpd from autostart. coulnt find a solution.
[20:49] <mks1209> Hi all, i'm trying to send sms via a python script (pyhumod) and it gives error that /bin/ttyusb1 not accessible. how can i make it accessible
[20:50] <jrib> dreamon: does it have a /etc/init/vsftpd.conf?
[20:50] <bestdnd> hi. how can i change the font in nautilus? i get many archives with hebrew file names, and after extracting them with ark, the names look like this (square with 4 hexadecimal digits)
[20:50] <jrib> dreamon: (or something similar in /etc/init??)
[20:50] <djono> its just crc data that is reused towards the end to fix 3 percent of the missing sector
[20:50] <jhutchins_wk> djono: How much RAM do you have?  How much swap?
[20:50] <dpurgert> bestdnd, you'll need the hebrew language installed most likely
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> dreamon: http://www.gaggl.com/2012/06/disable-services-on-boot-ubuntu-12-04/
[20:50] <djono> 1gb and 1gb swap
[20:50] <djono> swap linux created
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> djono: you'll want 2Gb swap for 1Gb RAM
[20:51] <jhutchins_wk> djono: ... and you're trying to edit an 8.5 GB file...
[20:51] <dpurgert> djono, you need a minimum of 8,5 GB available ram (+swap, but RAM is better) ... you're better off re-downloading the DVD.
[20:51] <jrib> ActionParsnip: that page has outdated information (dreamon)
[20:52] <jhutchins_wk> I would say closer to 18GB.
[20:52] <djono> owww. could i creat a 9 gb swap???
[20:52] <dreamon> jrib, /etc/init/vsftpd.conf -> yes
[20:52] <jhutchins_wk> We suspect someone may be attempting to get around DRM.
[20:52] <mks1209> Also, i used a windows installer and it didnt let me set the root password
[20:52] <jrib> dreamon: can you pastebin it?
[20:52] <dpurgert> well, 18G would be nice, but we don't all have super-awesome computers that can handle that much RAM (I top out at 16 :()
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> jrib: its from last year...is 'sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 disable
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> jrib: not the way?
[20:53] <jhutchins_wk> mks1209: Windows installer to install what?  Ubuntu does not have a root password.
[20:53] <dreamon> jrib, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1507685/
[20:53] <dpurgert> mks1209, ubuntu uses a "hardcoded" (though changeable) root password
[20:53] <djono> drm?
[20:53] <jrib> ActionParsnip: the information about upstart services is outdated. It's better to use overrides than delete the .conf file
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> mks1209: you don't need a root password, you have sudo
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> jrib: gotcha
, how do i get the hebrew language? there's nothing about hebrew in the software centre
[20:54] <Osmodivs1> jhutchins_wk: Well, you'r syntaxis is working...
[20:54] <dpurgert> bestdnd, um ... google?  (I dunno, tbh)
[20:54] <mks1209> so how do i give access to the user on ttyusb1
[20:54] <jhutchins_wk> dpurgert: Since when?
[20:54] <djono> so when i copy all that goes into the ram?
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> !il | bestdnd
[20:54] <jhutchins_wk> dpurgert: I am almost certain "hardcoded" is not the word you meant to use.
[20:55] <jhutchins_wk> Osmodivs1: Hope you backed up the system first!
[20:55] <jrib> ActionParsnip: I mean doing that is ok if you want upstart to completely forget about the job.  But using overrides will let you use upstart to start the service later
[20:55] <Thundarr> If anyone here is in electronic medical records / medical IT, please msg me. I have a few questions r/t career positions in that field. Thank you so much. Everyone else, please forgive me.
[20:55] <jhutchins_wk> Osmodivs1: You may want to look at gcad.
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> mks1209: who is the current owner and group?
[20:55] <dpurgert> jhutchins_wk, yes, 'hardcoded' was wrong ... although last time I looked into it was like Ubuntu 4 or something thereabouts
[20:55] <mks1209> root and dialout
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> jrib: ahhh thats much less destructive, thanks :)
[20:55] <nixbag> i have a question regarding the 'commandline expert install'. it asks if i want services enabled for security, partners, and extras archives. so what do these archive service options mean? i've already chosen to add universe and multiverse. are these archive services like init.d scripts that check periodically for updates?
[20:56] <jhutchins_wk> dpurgert: It's locked and has no password, but you can set one, which unlocks it.
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> mks1209: then add the user to the dialout group and it will get access
[20:56] <djono> does anyone know why the network manager in lubuntu is way better than mint?
[20:56] <dpurgert> jhutchins_wk, yeah, like I said ... it's been a while ;)
[20:56] <lonewulf85> Hello I have a question about wine could I ask it here?
[20:56] <djono> go ahead
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> djono: its a different distro
[20:56] <mks1209> thanks all, i will google how to add people to a group as it allow on the GUI
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> djono: each distro has strengths and weaknesses
[20:57] <lonewulf85> Do I need a windows product key to run the programs like office?
[20:57] <jrib> dreamon: You can use overrides and the manual keyword.  See: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#override-files .  If you read the script, you can also see that it checks CONFFILE to see if there's a listen line there.  If you remove listen lines from /etc/vsftpd.conf I guess that would be *another way* (I'm guessing from reading the script)
[20:57] <jrib> lonewulf85: try #winehq
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> lonewulf85: no, just the Office license key
[20:57] <djono> oh thougt it was the same cause they look just the same. that was the deciding factor for me had to drop mint and using lubuntu now
[20:58] <vitimiti> o/
[20:58] <lonewulf85> Okay thanks
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> lonewulf85: also check the wine appdb for compatibility with the Office version you are intending to install
[20:58] <djono> winehq is on freenode lonewulf
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> djono: many distros look the same, doesn't mean very much at all
[20:58] <dreamon> jrib, Thanks.
[20:58] <djono> oh i c. even if they are ubuntu based
[20:59] <dpurgert> wine to get an office suite seems a bit over the top
[20:59] <werewolf> hi all
[20:59] <sw2band> .
[20:59] <djono> its funny the best network manager ive used was on puppy. its the most mobile broadband usb friendly
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> djono: the packaging and default settings are different, ubuntu is debian based but the 3 are different and have separate support to reflect this
[20:59] <werewolf> i've got a problem on xubuntu 12.04
[20:59] <werewolf> with network manager
[20:59] <jhutchins_wk> dpurgert: To get an office suite, yes.  To get MSOffice because you have to have the MS product, that's what wine and crossoveroffice are for.
[21:00] <djono> whats the prob
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> djono: I like wicd, it has the abilityu for the user to name the interface name to use for each thing.
[21:00] <dpurgert> jhutchins_wk, fair enough
[21:00] <guntbert> werewolf: just ask your question - on one line please
[21:00] <nixbag> has anyone here done the expert install method, and know what the 'archive services' do exactly? it is part of the package manager config, aftr you choose universe and multiverse repos to be aded.
[21:00] <djono> wicd doesnt support usb broadband til the new one comes out
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> djono: not something I use ;)
[21:01] <werewolf> on the boot my xubuntu don't take a ip address, just everyone on terminal sudo dhclient eth0
[21:01] <djono> yeah i know. just an expat in a country where its the norm to have a usb stick net
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> werewolf: did you use /etc/network/interfaces to define the network by any chance?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> djono: horses for courses, dude
[21:02] <werewolf> no i didn't
[21:02] <djono> hehe fair enough mate
[21:02] <werewolf> i use network manager
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> werewolf: did you configure anyth9ing in network manager?
[21:02] <machicola> anyone happen to know how to , when using keyboard only to navigate gnome/xwindows (i'm using ubuntu 12.10 w/gnome-fallback) , jump across the top panel? I'm getting to the top panel with CTRL+ALT+TAB but unable to move across the screen to the left side of the panel (stuck on the right side of top panel)
[21:02] <werewolf> i would like to set up a static ip and delete network manager
[21:03] <werewolf> cane you help me?
[21:03] <werewolf> *can
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> werewolf: you can use /etc/network/interfaces for that
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> werewolf: you will need to set the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf too
[21:03] <werewolf> and network manager can i delete then?
[21:03] <machicola> i know I can use ALT+F1 to get there, to the applications menu, but I'd rather know how to with purely directional navigation keys
[21:03] <werewolf> ok
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> werewolf: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[21:04] <Lasivian> what file do I add a startup command to exactly? I'm seeing diffrent mentions on different parts of the web, but I went to 12.04 and networkmanager isn;t loading it's daemon, thanks
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> werewolf: or in the interfaces file add the line:  dns-nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[21:04] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: actually name servers are set in /etc/network/interfaces too (since resolvconf)
[21:04] <guntbert> :)
[21:05] <werewolf> then can i restart the network interface?
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> werewolf: sure, you can also remove all tyhe network-manager packages :)
[21:06] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: caveat, the option is dns-nameservers if I remember correctly
[21:06] <djono> does mono and wine run hand in hand?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: gotcha
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: or you can write to resolv.conf then mark it as read only and immutable :)
[21:07] <KPSingh> hey anyone knows where ldapsearch command search
[21:07] <dpurgert> guntbert, yep, it's "dns-nameservers"
[21:10] <KPSingh> or where the cn=admin,dc=com entry could be
[21:10] <Funky> Hi, I just upgraded my computer to 8GB of ram. do i need to install the 64-bit version of ubuntu?
[21:10] <mikeW68> Hi TomyLobo, just thought I'd let you know I have things working
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Funky: do you have the PAE kernel?
[21:11] <djono> if ur system is 64 bit system
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> Funky  of your cpu is 64bit
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> if
[21:11] <Lasivian> probably a stupid question I know
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Funky: what is the output of:  umame -a
[21:12] <Funky> ActionParsnip, I'm switching from a different distro, so i'm doing a fresh isntall of ubuntu
[21:12] <skp1> if my computer runs windows 7 64 bit can i run ubuntu 64 bit?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Funky: then I suggest you use 64bit
[21:12] <dpurgert> skp1, yes
[21:12] <kp> please reply anyone
[21:12] <Funky> MonkeyDust, I have the amd phenom ii x4 965 processor
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Funky: i'd go 64bit :)
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> Funky  see the other people's advice
[21:13]  * ActionParsnip has a phone more powerful than his media pc, sad times
[21:13] <Funky> Thanks guys!
[21:14] <Funky> I have another question, why does ubuntu installs the bootloader to my second hard drive?
[21:15] <Lasivian> what file would a daemon start command go in to function at boot?
[21:15] <Funky> And the partitions are on my first hard drive
[21:15] <guntbert> kp: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:15] <cmceldowney> All-- need help uploading a new version of a PPA. I've made 2 changes to /debian/rules file, and added notes to /debian/changelog, but keep getting issues b/c X already exists in my PPA, and uploaded version has different contents. Do I need to change names of all the files generated by debuild so it looks like a different version?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Funky: strange. are you using wubi at all?
[21:16] <kp> ubuntu support questions??
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[21:16] <Funky> ActionParsnip, I installed using the live CD.
[21:16] <mikeW68> does anybody have experience with blu ray players seeing samba shares
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Funky: good, wubi is awful
[21:16] <guntbert> kp: this channel is for ubuntu support
[21:17] <lucido> how can I launch the additional drivers apps from the console?
[21:17] <dubstar_04> Is there a channel for Ubuntu phone dev?
[21:17] <lucido> app*
[21:17] <Pici> dubstar_04: #ubuntu-phone
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> !phone | dubstar_04
[21:17] <DJones> lucido: You should be able to run either jockey-gtk or jockey-text
[21:17] <lucido> DJones, thank you
[21:17] <dubstar_04> Thanks
[21:18]  * MMOURA New Network joined /server <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> lucido: what driver do you need?
[21:19] <renegade_ray> I'm banging my head on this one. I'm running 3.0.0-24-server and am trying to clear out the /boot but when I run apt-get purge on one of the installed kernels I get an error "Depends: linux-image-3.0.0-29-server but it is not going to be installed" but when I try to install 3.0.0-29-server there is a device full error because /boot is full. Anyone have a suggestion?
[21:19] <lucido> ActionParsnip, nvidia 17x for the fx5200
[21:19] <Toph2> i use Rhythmbox. It works fine, but when I close it (x it out), the GUI disappears, yet the sound continues. Is this normal?
[21:19] <kp> i am asking for ldap server on ubuntu so isn't it right
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> renegade_ray  #ubuntu-server
[21:19] <kp> i am asking for ldap server on ubuntu so isn't it right
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> lucido: can run:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-173
[21:20] <rasp_pie> hi. what is your experience with ZFS on Ubuntu?
[21:20] <rasp_pie> Is it stable enough to use yet?
[21:20] <Analogymous> lucido: ActionParsnip: I am having the same trouble but I am on lubuntu, they seem to be incompatible with 12.10 release
[21:20] <renegade_ray> MonkeyDust Thanks.
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> renegade_ray: uninstall the kernel that wants to install and run:  sudo apt-get clean
[21:21] <dpurgert> IIRC you have to shut off something ..
[21:22] <sysdoc> The last that I heard there was no encryption for the files on the ubuntu one system, has anyone come up with a scheme to have the data encrypted prior uploading, and have the data avaliable to both Windows and Ubuntu systems?
[21:23] <niklaswe> hello, how can i fix this error http://pastebin.com/k5YUxms2
[21:24] <rasp_pie> what's the command, niklaswe?
[21:24] <captainfixerpc14> might there be someone that can enlighten me on how to KILL all process from teamviewerd -f  - tried all from htop - to killall - including root task man -it keeps restarting - I just can't kill it  - using precise 12.04
[21:24] <amaroks> Hello, How do I mount an extenrnal drive to a user folder?
[21:24] <lucido> DJones, jockie-text only displays: searching for additional drivers... then exits and jockey-gtk claims its not installed when sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk says the newest version is already installed
[21:25] <niklaswe> rasp_pie: apt-get remove hp-health
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> amaroks: same as to any other folder, just specify the folder to mount to when you use the mount command
[21:25] <niklaswe> the server doesnt have support for it.. and now cant i remove it..
[21:25] <amaroks> ActionParsnip: How? I'm logged in as root now
[21:26] <rasp_pie> niklaswe: hmm.. sounds simple enough but I don't know the specific package.. sorry
[21:26] <wting> Random question: If I have two usb devices, is there a performance decrease from using a powered hub vs a direct usb port (assuming a single usb controller)?
[21:26] <niklaswe> rasp_pie: the problem is that I got error when i trying to remove it..
[21:26] <wting> Is the bottleneck primarily at the usb controller (assuming devices can saturate usb port)?
[21:27] <s5fs> Hi gang, my 12.10 system seems to have 'lost' my sound card or configuration. Any links for troubleshooting? This is a Lenovo with hda-intel audio.
[21:28] <lucido> DJones, ok,its because jocky functionality has been merged into software-properties
[21:29] <wting> s5fs: Make sure it's listed: lspci | grep audio
[21:29] <SolarisBoy> wting: in my experience it depends on the device/driver the usb device will use - e.g. multiple web cams can overrun the usb bus taking bandwidth from each other degrading/breaking each other runs on the same bus
[21:29] <ddsss> to install virtualbox one just have to run: sudo apt-get install virtualbox  ? right?
[21:29] <wting> s5fs: Double check system config > sound and that you have onboard audio selected and not HDMI or something else.
[21:29] <dpurgert> ddsss, yup
[21:29] <Andrei> s5fs when i have lost the soud, i had to re'apt-get elsa sound drivers
[21:30] <dguerrero> greetings
[21:30] <s5fs> wting: nothing listed in lspci
[21:30] <bekks> ddsss: I'd follow the installation instruction on the official vbox website on how to install the latest version.
[21:30] <s5fs> wting: in system config > sound, all i have is a 'dummy' device
[21:30] <Andrei> the generic drivers (i'm on a classic PackardBell)
[21:31] <wting> s5fs: If it's not found in lspci, it's a kernel / driver issue. Start digging there...
[21:31] <guntbert> kp: if you need help please state your problem as completely as possible (in one line, that is without pressing <enter> in between)
[21:32] <jhutchins_wk> s5fs: check dmesg for relevant info.
[21:32] <kp> http://pastebin.com/x5xhYck7 here it is
[21:32] <s5fs> jhutchins_wk: digging now, looking for a needle in a stack of needles
[21:32] <ztgu> hey
[21:32] <jjason> hi
[21:33] <MACMIND> hey
[21:33] <MACMIND> sup ?
[21:33] <jhutchins_wk> s5fs: Some day you will be an ancient linux veteran, able to distinguish the sublime subtlties of each line.
[21:33] <jjason> howdy
[21:33] <r40778> hey
[21:33] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: The booting from grub, u know how?
[21:33] <jjason> hello
[21:33] <dguerrero> a few days ago i did an apt-get upgrade(laptop), and as soon i rebooted, i lost the mousepad and other pci hw, and idk how to rever it or fix it, help please
[21:33] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: Mm?
[21:33] <MACMIND> is photoshop on ubuntu a good option ?
[21:33] <jjason> gimp works
[21:33] <jhutchins_wk> MACMIND: Not really.
[21:33] <r40778> I have a nameserver problem using Juno vpn client
[21:33] <guntbert> !here | kp
[21:34] <Andy2113> hey guys quick question, I'm running ubuntu 11.04 and the the the little bar at the bottom where change between windows/desktop screens is missing. How do I reactive it?
[21:34] <MACMIND> you can achieve EXACTLY similar things with gimp ?
[21:34] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: Boot usb from the grub bootloader
[21:34] <captainfixerpc14> MACMIND, gimp on ubuntu is a good option instead of photoshop
[21:34] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: Yes?
[21:34] <kp> ok i try
[21:34] <dpurgert> dguerrero, try going back to an older kernel (if you have one available)
[21:35] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: Do you have any idea on how to do it?
[21:35] <jhutchins_wk> MACMIND: If you're paying the price for photoshop, you might as well pay for the hardware and get support.
[21:35] <MACMIND> what you mean >?
[21:35] <r40778> I have a nameserver problem using Juno vpn client. The vpn client overwrites resolv.conf, but my ubuntu has dynamic resolv.conf | kp
[21:35] <jjason> MACMIND: he assumes you paid money for photoshop
[21:35] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: I think it depends on how your BIOS presents the USB device, and it may not be possible to resove with grub.  Did you try the directions on adding a manual entry to grub?
[21:35] <Andy2113> anybody_
[21:36] <hans> what is this chat about?
[21:36] <guntbert> !please | Andy2113
[21:36] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: the link u linked=
[21:36] <DJones> hans: This is Ubuntu support
[21:36] <ztgu> ?
[21:36] <jjason> !repeat
[21:37] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: Yes, there was a link for doing that on ubuntu.
[21:37] <jjason> !attitude
[21:37] <kp> i installed slapd ldap-utils and found there is no slapd.conf so i copied it from /usr/share/doc/slapd/example/slapd.conf then created a passwd by slappasswd and copied it in slapd.conf after rootpw restarted my server then do a little check ldapsearch for dc=kite,dc=com but it shows no such subject (32) found dc=com which is half so i need to correct that
[21:37] <guntbert> !askthebot > jjason
[21:38] <r40778> !I have a nameserver problem using Juno vpn client. The vpn client overwrites resolv.conf, but my ubuntu has dynamic resolv.conf | kp
[21:38] <jjason> ubottu: what?
[21:38] <s5fs> jhutchins_wk: okay, i manually loaded the module w/modprobe and sound works again. i'm not seeing any failure messages in dmesg. thoughts?
[21:39] <Third3ye> Is there a small app which allows you to quickly swith on or off screens, and even enable both screens? Sort of like a pop-up instead of going in to settings>screen and going through the motions...
[21:40] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: it was this link http://kagashe.blogspot.no/2009/10/how-to-make-manual-entry-in-grub2-on.html
[21:41] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: seems a bit wierd though
[21:42] <jrib> Third3ye: maybe http://willem.engen.nl/projects/disper/ can let you create something like that
[21:43] <jhutchins_wk> s5fs: Make sure it's not blacklisted, and if interested reboot to see if it loads automatically.  If not, you may need a modules.d file to load it.
[21:44] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: Grub2, wierd, yeah.  Sounds right.
[21:44] <s5fs> jhutchins_wk: it's not blacklisted and i'm happy to jam the entry into /etc/modules or whatever, but i'm perplexed as to why it stopped loading.
[21:45] <N1ghtCrawler> Quick and maby a bit stupid question: I'm planning to run a LAMP server on ubuntu 12.04 and have installed LAMP with tasksel. For sequrity do I have to configure UFW or is the server safe enough anyway?
[21:45] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: Skip to the part 'After reading...'  (Which, you know, reading the Grub2 documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki  might not be a bad idea).
[21:46] <jhutchins_wk> s5fs: Maybe it had too much to drink New Years Eve.
[21:47] <Third3ye> Does Unity have something similar to this? -> http://www.wfu.edu/~yipcw/lenovo/t410/w7-external_display/images/w7-fnf7-win_p.gif
[21:47] <s5fs> jhutchins_wk: weird, i have drinking blacklisted. anyways, thanks for your help, i can drive from here :)
[21:47] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: does the UUID bleong the usb drive?
[21:47] <Third3ye> That particular pop-up is brought up by a keyboard shortcut -- easy and to the point :)
[21:47] <ztgu> belong*
[21:47] <kp> jhutchins_wk: please look to my prob if u can explained above
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: your system will probably have a switch to change outputs
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: if you use an nvidia GPU, then it is set using nvidia-settings
[21:48] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: That uuid belongs to that guy's drive.  The blkid tool will find/create a UUID for your usb drive.
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: that stuff is not the job of Unity
[21:48] <jhutchins_wk> kp: I have never succeded in doing anything useful with ldap.  Just my own ignorance, sorry.
[21:49] <kp> ok no worries will wait for someone else
[21:49] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: I know it belongs to him, I think I will read the grub 2 wiki
[21:49] <jhutchins_wk> kp: There should be documentation in /usr/share/doc/ldap-utils and the like.
[21:50] <Third3ye> ActionParsnip, there's some kind of bug with it... everytime I do the FN+f4 (which switches between screens or turns both on) that makes both screens turn on if I Alt+Tab
[21:50] <jhutchins_wk> kp: As I understand it it's just a database, you have to set up a schema and feed it information for it to be useful.
[21:50] <ukd1> I'm making a usb boot stick for a headless machine; how can I make it bring up any network interface that it finds?
[21:50] <kp> jutchins: ok that things help me alot i will try
[21:50] <DominikST95> hey guys ;) Is somebody here, who is an expert on ODT files? I'd like to know, if there is a way to get the textsize out of the content.xml
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: do you use an nvidia gpu?
[21:51] <Third3ye> Yes
[21:52] <Third3ye> and I have the experimental 310 driver
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: then configure in nvidia-settings
[21:52] <kp> but database will be created after my ldapadd command but the tree roots are not ok means dc=kite,dc=com is not right it is just showing dc=com enteeries and don't know where they are coming from
[21:53] <Third3ye> ActionParsnip, it wasn't necessary :/ I could use the settings > display to change screens...
[21:53] <ciphered> does ubuntu support WEP SHARED? Or only WEP+OPEN ?
[21:53] <ciphered> i am not able to get WEP+SHARED working under ubuntu
[21:53] <ukd1> is there a way to bring up all interfaces?
[21:53] <dpurgert> ciphered, why're you running with WEP?
[21:54] <ciphered> pentest
[21:54] <jhutchins_wk> kp: Try to find a howto at a reputable site that describes what you are trying to do with ldap and follow it step by step.
[21:54] <jhutchins_wk> !ldap
[21:54] <dpurgert> ciphered, what ...?
[21:55] <jhutchins_wk> I think he might be trying to do psk with the key on a usb device.
[21:55] <dpurgert> that makes some sense ... but ... WEP...
[21:55] <ciphered> dude
[21:55] <ciphered> google pentest
[21:56] <ciphered> ok, my AP is configured with WEP+SHARED but my client can only connect if configured with wEP+OPEN , it refuses to connect if i choose WEP+SHARED
[21:56] <mostrom> hello
[21:56] <ciphered> any limitation to use WEP+SHARED ON ubuntu due to the WEP weakness?
[21:56] <mostrom> any1 here?
[21:56] <dpurgert> hi mostrom
[21:57] <mostrom> I have problrem
[21:57] <ukd1> does anyone know about udev?
[21:57] <usr13> ciphered: I don't think it matters what platform you use it on.
[21:57] <dpurgert> ciphered, OK, seems you know that WEP has problems (weaknesses) ... so why are you choosing to use it in the first place on your AP
[21:57] <mostrom> I want to run some applications based on .NET framework under ubuntu by Wine
[21:57] <mostrom> i downloaded manually dotnetfx.msi
[21:57] <mostrom> and when i install it
[21:57] <ciphered> dpurgert: i like danger
[21:57] <mostrom> it seys"error"
[21:58] <dpurgert> ciphered, in that case, run wide open -- less hassles :)
[21:58] <usr13> ciphered: Not the strongest, so what, use it if you need it.
[21:59] <mostrom> Anyone has experience with .NET in ubuntu?
[21:59] <dpurgert> some, though you have to be more specific with what the error is ...
[21:59] <Andrei> nope mostrom, but maybe somebody else does
[21:59] <kp> jhutchins_wk: && ubottu: i have already searched internet they just skip the slapd.conf part but i will look until its done now i am able to add the enteries but without dc=kite so i have to fix that only thanku guys
[21:59] <jhutchins_wk> mostrom: winehq has a database of programs that are known to work under it.
[22:01] <mostrom> look, error coming, when program tryes ot register ASP.net. Error say:1:25003 2: -21. and so on lol
[22:02] <jhutchins_wk> mostrom: I think people do work with .net on linux, but not by using windows programs.
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> mostrom: I'd ask in #winehq
[22:02] <mostrom> thanks much]
[22:02] <mostrom> yeah
[22:03] <nsaquatics> afternooon. Anybody know the command to turn off the audible alarm for an Intel RT3WB080 Raid Card? I have dmraid installed but can't find an option to disable the alarm.
[22:03] <mostrom> just to work on .NET, i must install it first :p
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> mostrom: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/monodevelop/
[22:03] <jhutchins_wk> mostrom: I don't think that's the right way to do it in Linux.  I would look for articles about .net on linux on the web.
[22:04] <jhutchins_wk> nsaquatics: Why do you want to disable the alarm?
[22:04] <mostrom> ok, the true is that I want to run application wrote in visualc#
[22:05] <nsaquatics> Because I have to work in the same office as it is for now. The array has been rebuilt but the alarm is still going... It's driving me nuts..
[22:05] <mostrom> and installer can't install .NET
[22:05] <jhutchins_wk> nsaquatics: Doesn't it have a physical reset?
[22:05] <nsaquatics> Not that I've seen... let me look again..
[22:06] <dpurgert> mostrom, you can't compile the source with a different compiler?
[22:06] <pawleeq> hello
[22:06] <schep> Hi. Running 12.04.1 LTS. After a recent update, I'm getting <IP_ADDRESS> as the only DNS server in /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf , which doesn't work.  I tried adding "supersede domain-name-servers <IP_ADDRESS>;" to /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf and rebooting, but no change.
[22:06] <mostrom> developer don;t share source, i have binary
[22:07] <jhutchins_wk> mostrom: Search for "visual c# on linux" in google and start reading.
[22:07] <mostrom> installer cheks if there is .NET. If there isn't it downloads .NET and install. And here i have error
[22:07] <jhutchins_wk> mostrom: Microsoft tools are not the way.
[22:07] <pawleeq> I have an application which needs file libgtk-1.2.so.0 to run. I think I need to install package libgtk-1.2, but how can I do that on oneiric?
[22:08] <dpurgert> schep, check /etc/network/interfaces
[22:08] <dpurgert> mostrom, ah, that would be a problem then
[22:08] <mostrom> Eh
[22:08] <schep> dpurgert: auto lo \n iface lo inet loopback
[22:09] <Mrokii> Hello. Is there a way to find out which application uses my up- and download bandwidth?
[22:09] <mostrom> should I first install .NET 1.0, then 2.0, then 3.0 etc?
[22:09] <dpurgert> schep, OK, and what do you get from running ifconfig ?
[22:09] <dpurgert> Mrokii, try tcpdump
[22:09] <delphinas> hey:)
[22:09] <schep> dpurgert: eth0 and lo.  The IP and network for eth0 IPv4 look correct.
[22:10] <jhutchins_wk> schep: You don't have an interface that can reach <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:10] <jhutchins_wk> schep: Or maybe you do.
[22:10] <kylescottmcgill> there is also iftop, but that gives you what the destination is, so you could guess from there... \o/
[22:10] <dpurgert> schep, "correct" as in you're getting 192.168.[0|1].xxx ?
[22:10] <schep> inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[22:11] <dpurgert> schep, yup, *should* be working then
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> schep: try:  echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base > /dev/null
[22:11] <delphinas> vmware or virtualbox?
[22:11] <dpurgert> you can try adding an entry to /etc/network/interfaces (then reboot) or ... do what ActionParsnip just said
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> delphinas: either
[22:12] <anthius> how do i change my machine name in 12.10
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> schep: when the networking starts, the name server will be added to /etc/resolv.conf :)
[22:12] <delphinas> do they both have same issues with graphic drivers?
[22:12] <bekks> anthius: Just use "sudo hostname newhostname"
[22:12] <kylescottmcgill> delphinas: what are you doing with VBox and VMWare?
[22:12] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, though isn't resolv.conf nuked on system restart?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> anthius: run:   gksudo gedit /etc/hostname &       then run:  gksudo gedit /etc/hosts     and change BOTH files, change the current name in both files to the new name. Save them and reboot
[22:12] <delphinas> I'm using it to host ubuntu on windows
[22:13] <auronandace> delphinas: vbox is open source
[22:13] <kylescottmcgill> delphinas: either would be fine
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> dpurgert: it will get recreated next boot, but if you use the proper configs it can be populated as you desire
[22:13] <anthius> bekks i mean on my local machine
[22:13] <bekks> anthius: Yes. "sudo hostname mynewhostname"
[22:13] <kylescottmcgill> anthius: you run that in your terminal
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> delphinas: tried a different desktop that isn't gnome with unity shell?
[22:13] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, nice ... I just have the config in /etc/network/interfaces ...
[22:14] <delphinas> but had some issues with graphics. Installed guest additions and it is better now, but still kind of laggy.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> dpurgert: both are fine
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> delphinas: try a lighter desktop environmen
[22:14] <iceroot> my system (12.04) is telling me that my nameserver is <IP_ADDRESS>. how to find out of the "real" nameserver behind is <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>? nslookup is always showing <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:14] <delphinas> I tried just mint, fedora and ubuntu so far - same gnome stuff
[22:14] <kylescottmcgill> delphinas: you could give it more resources, or use lighter Desktop software (Unity) etc
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> delphinas: those are distributions, not desktops
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> delphinas: install xfce4 in Ubuntu, log off and select the XFCE session from the login screen
[22:15] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, yeah -- google gave me /etc/network/interfaces  ... it's worked well, and I've not managed to break anything too terribly yet
[22:16] <delphinas> ActionParsnip, ok I'll give it a try, never used xfce!
[22:16] <dpurgert> delphinas, do you have enough graphics RAM for the virtual machine?
[22:16] <delphinas> kylescottmcgill, I gave decent resources! :)
[22:16] <Mrokii> dpurgert: Thanks, though I'm not much wiser now. :) Lots of ouput.
[22:16] <kylescottmcgill> :)
[22:16] <delphinas> 128mb - max I guess for me
[22:16] <delphinas> and 64bit with 4cores
[22:16] <delphinas> 4gb ram
[22:17] <RJ3000> hmm
[22:17] <delphinas> should be enough
[22:17] <kylescottmcgill> That should be plenty.. more than enough lol
[22:17] <anthius> bekks there is no name in either file
[22:17] <schep> Also, "sudo ifdown eth0" says "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured".  Is there a different way to restart networking now?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> delphinas: LXDE i slightly lighter than XFCE
[22:17] <jhutchins_wk> schep: /etc/init.d/network restart
[22:18] <bekks> anthius: In which file? I told you to run a command.
[22:18] <delphinas> ActionParsnip, I will give a try to xfce first to see how it feels :)
[22:18] <anthius> host and hostname
[22:18] <SolarisBoy> is it possible to edit the short CTRL+ALT+T to provide terminator instead of the gnome-terminal?
[22:18] <SolarisBoy> *shortcut
[22:18] <bekks> anthius: "host" is not a filename.
[22:18] <dpurgert> Mrokii, yeah, tcpdump is pretty spartan ... iftop is nice ... actually looks like a commandline version of wireshark/ethereal
[22:18] <anthius> /etc/host  and /ect/hostname
[22:18] <bekks> anthius: This is a command: "sudo hostname mynewhostname"
[22:18] <anthius> bekks neitehr files contain anything
[22:19] <bekks> anthius: The first file doesnt even exist.
[22:19] <LudwigVonMises> strange error, my two page documents only print out the second page properly, and leaves the first empty. any tips?
[22:19] <dpurgert> LudwigVonMises, check that you've got the right printer driver set in cups?
[22:19] <Mrokii> dpurgert: Thanks, will take a look.
[22:19] <mistergibson> Question: is there a way to force a pkg to install despite deps not met?  I'm thinking glx-diversions here.
[22:20] <dpurgert> mistergibson, sudo apt-get -f install (package)
[22:20] <jrib> mistergibson: there is but you generally don't want to do that.  You should give more details.
[22:20] <mistergibson> dpurgert: thanks
[22:20] <mistergibson> well
[22:20] <dpurgert> also, yeah ... forcing installs can be "bad"
[22:21] <jrib> apt-get -f won't force installs
[22:21] <mistergibson> I want to get glx-diversions in, but they pre-dep it to a pkg that cannot be installed :P
[22:21] <troop> i wonder if we can interact with notification balloons? that means, if i click to message on notification, message windows will come.
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> yeah -f (f)ixes packages
[22:21] <jrib> mistergibson:   You should give more details.
[22:21] <SolarisBoy> woops nevermind got it
[22:21] <mistergibson> well, I need to switch the glx layer to fglrx away from mesa glx
[22:22] <mistergibson> that is the core of the desire
[22:22] <mistergibson> rather than go crack-monkey the files and cross my fingers (just to get hw opengl) I would like to avail myself of what looks like an infrastructure to do the switchover in ubuntu 12.10
[22:23] <jrib> mistergibson: so have you found documentation for glx-diversions?  What happens when you try to install it?
[22:23] <mistergibson> but they put a pre-dep to a pkg not in the std. repo
[22:23] <Enigma_> Hi, how can I get my microphone to output over the speakers?
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> Enigma_: like a sing along?
[22:23] <delphinas> Ok logging out to test xfce
[22:23] <mistergibson> jrib: when I attempt to install it, I get a notice about nvidia-installer-cleanup or some such
[22:23] <mistergibson> and it cannot be installed
[22:23] <jrib> mistergibson: pastebin
[22:24] <Enigma_> ActionParsnip, Like karaoke, yes.
[22:24] <jhutchins_wk> Enigma_: You capture the mic and you should get the output at the speakers, complete with feedback.
[22:25] <nsaquatics> jhutchins_wk: Not that I can find.. And intel only has the tools for Redhat or Solaris.
[22:25] <Enigma_> jhutchins_wk, I know that I want to do, just not how to do it.
[22:25] <dsathe> hey i just got a Lenovo Ideapad Y500, the usb just does not boot into a GUI
[22:25] <dsathe> what do i do :(
[22:25] <mistergibson> jrib: http://pastebin.com/F49aYtXS
[22:25] <dsathe> windows 8 GPT UEFI mess
[22:25] <jhutchins_wk> nsaquatics: Hate it when they do that.
[22:25] <dsathe> i disabled secure boot
[22:25] <jhutchins_wk> nsaquatics: Do they have source?
[22:25] <dsathe> pleas ehelp someone
[22:26] <jhutchins_wk> nsaquatics: you could try the tools with alien.
[22:26] <jhutchins_wk> nsaquatics: Shipping tape over the alarm!
[22:26] <mistergibson> jrib: see what I mean?
[22:26] <jrib> mistergibson: so, did you find documentation or not?
[22:26] <nsaquatics> yeah already have tape over it... still load as all out..
[22:26] <mistergibson> jrib: no, I did not
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> Enigma_: http://superuser.com/questions/87571/how-to-hear-mic-sound-over-speakers-ubuntu-karmic     maybe
[22:27] <Enigma_> Yea I found that, apparently I am using alsa and not pulse
[22:27] <jhutchins_wk> dsathe: Did you have a question about ubuntu?
[22:27] <dsathe> yes
[22:27] <ajp> hi all, i'm trying to run my script on startup through upstart on my ubuntu server. What do I save my job file as? and where do I put it?
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> Enigma_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:27] <nsaquatics> ./././
[22:27] <dsathe> i cant get the usb media to boot
[22:27] <dsathe> i even got hold of the secure remix
[22:27] <dsathe> :(
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> dsathe: did you md5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[22:28] <dsathe> yes
[22:28] <mistergibson> jrib: I did find this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glx-alternatives/+bug/1072344
[22:28] <aLeSD> hi all
[22:28] <dsathe> it seems to be a know issue
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> dsathe: how did you put the ISO on the USB?
[22:28] <Enigma_> Im running quantal, its xbmcbuntu
[22:28] <jhutchins_wk> dsathe: Geting usb media to boot is up to the hardware.
[22:28] <dsathe> just to confusing
[22:28] <schep> Nope.  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base now contains "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>", but I'm still getting only <IP_ADDRESS> in /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[22:28] <dsathe> nomodeset acpi=off tried all that
[22:28] <aLeSD> hi all
[22:28] <aLeSD> how could I install the plugin for ardour ?
[22:28] <aLeSD> is there something in the repository
[22:28] <jrib> mistergibson: yes that seems like the right place to look
[22:29] <anthius> thanks
[22:29] <jhutchins_wk> dsathe: That sounds like it's at least starting to boot off of the USB.  You have to tell us what's actually happen for us to help you, we don't magically know.  Very few of us even have EFI systems.
[22:30] <dsathe> ok
[22:30] <dsathe> so it starts booting
[22:30] <dsathe>  video.allow_duplicates
[22:30] <dsathe> says somethign about this
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Enigma_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/123798/how-to-hear-my-voice-in-speakers-with-a-mic   maybe
[22:30] <nsaquatics> jhutchins_wk: not that I can see... still looking
[22:30] <dsathe> as this laptop has i7 with gma and a gt650m
[22:30] <dsathe> and gives up
[22:30] <dsathe> as in xserver wont start
[22:30] <dsathe> it get into command
[22:31] <dsathe> does ubuntu have support for a command line install
[22:31] <mistergibson> jrib: hence - I wanted to see about forcing glx-diversions into place, and see what comes of it (extreme measure I know)
[22:31] <dsathe> i need ubuntu for my work , arcxh or something else just wouldnt do
[22:31] <usr13> !alternate | dsathe
[22:31] <dsathe> usr i know it used to be arounmd
[22:31] <ajp> hi all, i'm trying to run my script on startup through upstart on my ubuntu server. What do I save my job file as? and where do I put it? and does this look right ?http://pastebin.com/xjACPjk4
[22:32] <Enigma_> ActionParsnip, Ill try that thanks.
[22:32] <jrib> mistergibson: there are two options: use equivs or download the source package and edit the dependency information.  Again, I'd strongly urge you to not do this and to instead research the matter more (figure out what happened to nvidia-installer-cleanup in ubuntu)
[22:32] <dsathe> i have been using nix since 2002 and this is just something i cant seem to get arund
[22:32] <delphinas> xfce is really fast :)
[22:32] <dsathe> goodamn ms
[22:32] <mistergibson> jrib: I have the nvidia-installer-cleanup deb and have attempted to install it -- it never installs
[22:33] <jrib> mistergibson: just make sure you have a backup to restore from
[22:33] <mistergibson> jrib: something is utterly broken about this pkg so THAT is why I'm casting about for anything I can do.
[22:33] <mistergibson> jrib: sure, sounds reasonable :)
[22:34] <jrib> mistergibson: you might also ask in #ubuntu-bugs has any pointers for you with regards to helping with the bug you linked
[22:35] <dpurgert> whoops ...
[22:35] <mistergibson> jrib: thanks :)
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> delphinas: yes, it doesn't use compiz like Unity does, and uses a lot fewer resources
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> delphinas: I always recommend xfce or lxde to virtualized OSes
[22:36] <delphinas> I was just thinking: is it possible to achieve same performance as installed OS, using virtualization ?
[22:36] <nibbler> can someone point me to some documentation about initramfs in ubuntu? in which order are the scripts under scripts/ executed? init-premount? local-premount? local-top?
[22:38] <nibbler> oh... its in the man page - didnt expect that tbh
[22:39] <troop> hello again
[22:39] <troop> i wonder if we can interact with notification balloons? that means, if i click to message on notification, message windows will come.
[22:39] <jhutchins_wk> dsathe: linux on efi has been working for a while now, it's just a bit harder to get right, and there's not as much documentation and pre-configured stuff for it.
[22:39] <sysdoc> The last that I heard there was no encryption for the files on the ubuntu one system, has anyone come up with a scheme to have the data encrypted prior uploading, and have the data avaliable to both Windows and Ubuntu systems?
[22:39] <jhutchins_wk> dsathe: Start with the install guide - I don't remember if there's anything on efi there, but there might be.
[22:39] <dsathe> jhutchins_wk: yea , i cannot seem to figure it out :(
[22:39] <dsathe> that does not work
[22:39] <dsathe> switchable grafix is the problem now :D
[22:40] <alami> hello, when i type on Terminal arch i get i686, is my CPU 64bit or my ubuntu is 64??
[22:40] <jhutchins_wk> dsathe: The advanced install does have a text mode.  Yes, the muliti-graphics thing is a royal pain.   I am trying find solution for 3 days..... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12442173
[22:43] <alami> hello, when i type on Terminal arch i get i686, is my CPU 64bit or my ubuntu is 64??
[22:44] <ajp> !upstart
[22:44] <bekks> alami: Currently you have a i686 Ubuntu, maybe on a 64bit CPU.
[22:45] <bekks> alami: You have to find you which CPU you have very exactly, first, by typing: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[22:46] <jhutchins_wk> OwiecPL1986: Have you verified the .iso image and the resulting disc?
[22:47] <alami> becks:http://pastebin.com/B1iHWpy4
[22:47] <jhutchins_wk> dsathe: There is documentation out there - it has been possible to use EFI since at least 2008.
[22:48] <airglide> can someone point me to a docu about unistall files in ubuntu
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> airglide: uninstalling what?
[22:48] <calimero_> hi xchat doesn t work good
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> calimero_: can you expand the question please
[22:49] <k1l> !uninstall | airglide
[22:49] <calimero_> when i choose a room it's not connected
[22:49] <alami> beKks:http://pastebin.com/B1iHWpy4
[22:50] <k1l> wait, that is not what i thought it is :)
[22:50] <alami> bekks:http://pastebin.com/B1iHWpy4
[22:50] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: i am writing on USB image a several times with diffrent versions
[22:50] <OwiecPL1986> *were writing
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> calimero_: if you type:  /j #ubuntu+1   does it join ok?
[22:50] <jhutchins_wk> OwiecPL1986: Verify the iso, then verify the USB image.  How are you creating the USB image?
[22:50] <calimero_> now i'm in chatzilla
[22:51] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: by unetbootin-windows-583
[22:51] <calimero_> in xchat my nick is splott
[22:51] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: but in google i find other people have the same problem but never solution for that
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> calimero_: try joining a channel using the /join command
[22:52] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: ok, i found some solution but problem was not exatly the same and doesnt work for me
[22:52] <Grey2> o/ i've got a really shameful question...is it likely I got a virus by opening a page on a website, and it opened like a hidden popup, but I couldn't find it..?
[22:52] <jhutchins_wk> OwiecPL1986: Does that laptop use EFI instead of MBR?
[22:52] <alami> i have download 32bit ubuntu and afterinstallation arch give i686, what does that mean?
[22:52] <jhutchins_wk> Grey2: Are you running Windows?
[22:52] <skp1> can someone help me? i just installed ubuntu 12.10 64 and after i select ubuntu from the grub menu i get this error: run-init: /sbin/init: exec format error
[22:53] <skp1> and then a kernel panic
[22:53] <jhutchins_wk> alami: That you have installed Ubuntu 32bit i686.  i686 is a later version of i386.
[22:53] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: i didint find information it use EFI so i guess not? I have clear instalation, this is new computer
[22:53] <calimero_> i 've chosen ubuntu+1
[22:53] <dsathe> OwiecPL1986:
[22:53] <dsathe> i think i sorted it
[22:53] <jhutchins_wk> alami: It is based on the old Intel chip numbering scheme.
[22:53] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: gparted detect all partitions, even i created ext4 partition
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> calimero_: did you join ok?
[22:53] <calimero_> but doesnt works
[22:53] <alami> jhutchins_wk: i686 is not 64bit?
[22:53] <dsathe> i was having the same issue for the last 3-4 hrs
[22:53] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: bug GUI doesnt detect anything
[22:53] <dsathe> just use i686
[22:54] <dsathe> does not matter
[22:54] <dsathe> so long as u got  a comp post 200
[22:54] <dsathe> 2000
[22:54] <jhutchins_wk> OwiecPL1986: I think you have to use advanced mode to use existing partitions.
[22:54] <dsathe> OwiecPL1986:
[22:54] <k1l> alami: why dont you post the info i requested at the beginning?
[22:54] <dsathe> where are you stuck atm
[22:54] <dsathe> the USB boot
[22:54] <dsathe> or grab the secure-remix
[22:54] <OwiecPL1986> dsathe: i am using 64-bit
[22:54] <dsathe> it takes care of booting into uefi
[22:54] <calimero_> the room doesn't appear
[22:54] <jhutchins_wk> alami: Correct, i686 is 32b.
[22:54] <alami> k1l i have do it
[22:55] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: advanced mode?
[22:55] <alami> k1l:http://pastebin.com/B1iHWpy4
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> alami: 64b i sx86_64.
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> alami: 64b is x86_64.
[22:55] <calimero_> i've done /join#ubuntu+1
[22:55] <alami> jhutchins_wk: tahnks
[22:55] <dsathe> i386 refers to support for 38086 processors
 alami: what gives you a "uname -a"?
[22:55] <dsathe> it's being dropped in linux 3.7
[22:55] <dsathe> just use 686
[22:56] <dsathe> infact use amd64
[22:56] <dsathe> most new laptops have it
[22:56] <OwiecPL1986> dsathe: details you can read there http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12442173
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> dsathe: i386 is already gone
[22:56] <jhutchins_wk> alami: If you already have i686 you might as well go ahead and use it.  There's no real advantage to x86_64 unless you're working with really big datasets.
[22:57] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: What do you mean when saying about advanced mode?
[22:57] <jhutchins_wk> OwiecPL1986: On the installer.
[22:57] <alami>  jhutchins_wk: but i686 don't support more then 4Gb RAM
[22:57] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: gui installer doesnt have any advenced mode?
[22:58] <jhutchins_wk> OwiecPL1986: Sorry, installers are a weak point because we usually run them once per PC, and unless we're turning out a bunch of PCs with various hardware it's hard to learn/remember all the details.  That's why I point people at the install guide.
[22:58] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: if have i didnt see any button "advanced mode"
[22:58] <r0tha_> *the install gives you the ability to select what partitions should be crated for the install
[22:58] <k1l> alami: use PAE kernel, which should be default
[22:58] <jhutchins_wk> OwiecPL1986: I haven't run an ubuntu installer in about three years.
[22:58] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: yes but when standard way doesnt work then is a problem
[22:58] <r0tha_> *i.e do you want /root to be on another disk
[22:58] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: heh ok
[22:59] <OwiecPL1986> ok so mayby is other option? When i installed gentoo i just copy files and chroot. Any similar for ubuntu?
[22:59] <lorenx> hi all. i installed cinnamon on ubuntu 12.10. is there a better channel for a wm (muffin?) keybinding question? thanks
[23:00] <jhutchins_wk> OwiecPL1986: THere is no alternative to finding and reading the documentation on how to handle the new hardware.
[23:00] <jhutchins_wk> OwiecPL1986: Did you install gentoo on this hardware?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> lorenx: #muffin maybe
[23:01] <error_code> how can I downgrade to  php5-mongo v1.2.10 from 1.3?
[23:01] <error_code> w/ apt
[23:01] <MonkeyDust> error_code  not
[23:01] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: no, as i said it's new computer with fresh preinstalled windows 7 what i want to have + ubuntu.
[23:01] <error_code> MonkeyDust: have to, they changed the api, and broke the build
[23:02] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: i used linux last time about 2-3 years ago for everyday but then i decide to move to windows
[23:02] <OwiecPL1986> jhutchins_wk: no i need linux only to write in Ruby On Rails
[23:02] <bekks> alami: You have 64bit capable CPU.
[23:02] <error_code> I trye: 'sudo apt-get install php5-mongo=1.2.10', but it says version not found.. even though I know that ver is avail
[23:03] <dpurgert> error_code, why're you trying to downgrade?
[23:03] <lorenx> ActionParsnip: hi, thanks for your reply... i already checked #cinnamon and #muffin unsuccessfully...
[23:03] <error_code> have to, they changed the api, and broke the build
[23:03] <dpurgert> whoops
[23:03] <MonkeyDust> !info php5-mongo | error_code
[23:03] <dpurgert> that's not good
[23:03] <alami> bekks: but 32 is better, my os now is 32bit  I thought i686 is not 32bits
[23:04] <dpurgert> alami, right, i686 is the x86_64 variant
[23:04] <MonkeyDust> error_code  it says version 1.2, the one you need
[23:04] <bekks> alami: On 64bit hardware, 32bit/i686 is not better.
[23:04] <error_code> dpurgert: heh. yeah. pretty pissed to see it
[23:04] <bekks> dpurgert: Thats WRONG.
[23:04] <bekks> i686 == 32bit, x86_64 == amd64 == 64bit.
[23:04] <error_code> MonkeyDust: I try: 'sudo apt-get install php5-mongo=1.2 ' and get:  E: Version '1.2' for 'php5-mongo' was not found
[23:04] <dpurgert> bekks, and then ... i386 = ?
[23:05] <bekks> dpurgert: i386 == 16bit
[23:05] <OwiecPL1986> alami: if you have 64-bit CPU install 64-bit version, if you have 32-bit version install 32-bit version.  You hgave 64bit CPU, but a 32bit OS.
[23:05] <bekks> alami: Your CPU is 64bit...
[23:05] <kyuubi> bummer
[23:06] <dpurgert> bekks, funny, wikipedia sates that i386 was shorthand for the Intel 80386 ... which was 32 bit...
[23:06] <Enigma_> How do I install support for exfat media cards?
[23:06] <k1l> alami: man, why dont you show a : uname -a ?
[23:06] <alami> bekks: you're true but i thing the last generation of intel like my CPU (i5) is 32bit and 64bit and both work fein
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> alami  what's the output of uname -a ?
[23:07] <alami>  k1l:Linux n105 3.5.0-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 11 18:52:46 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> ok
[23:07] <bekks> alami: You thoughts are wrong. You have a 64bit CPU.
[23:07] <k1l> alami: there are no 32bit 4cores
[23:07] <OwiecPL1986> alami: 32-bit OS will work on 64-bit. Whats your point?
[23:07] <alami> bekks all new computer have 64 bits CPU
[23:08] <bekks> alami: And your CPU is a 64bit CPU too.
[23:08] <lorenx> i guess i'll try with mutter... is it possibile to set the "alt + left click" key combination to resize a window?
[23:08] <k1l> alami: you have installed a 32bit ubuntu
[23:08] <MarKsaitis> package description of samba4 in ubuntu - - SMB/CIFS file, NT domain and active directory server (version 4)---- what a load of bolex, this package isnt full and it doesnt work! Why on earth not say so!
[23:08] <alami> yes but 32bit OS work rearly good with a 64 CPU why do i need a 64 CPU
[23:08] <alami> i mean 64 OS
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> k1l: I'm gonna se if I can find one, just for kicks
[23:09] <OwiecPL1986> alami: 32-bit version OS with 64-bit CPU just cant never has the same performance like 64-bit OS. just only that.
[23:09] <alami> k1l: i have install it alone
[23:09] <apokalyptiker> http://windowsphone.bboard.de/board/
[23:09] <alami> OwiecPL1986: yes but the Problem is: some programe don't support 64Bit OS
[23:09] <alami> but thanks every body for this explaination
[23:10] <dpurgert> alami - really it only "matters" if you want/have more than 4GB of addressable RAM.  a 32 bit OS cannot address more than ~4GB
[23:10] <OwiecPL1986> alami: but 64-bit OS support 32-bit software
[23:10] <alami> dpurgert: yes that's what i say at the beginen
[23:10] <bekks> alami: Name ONE program that still does not run on a 64bit Ubuntu :)
[23:10] <dpurgert> alami -- missed that then :)
[23:11] <alami> OwiecPL1986: rearly: i have never try 64os .. :)
[23:11] <k1l> ActionParsnip: dont bring 30 year old cpus that wont fit in a modern laptop :)
[23:11] <alami> bekks: a lot on my company :D
[23:11] <bekks> dpurgert: Which is wrong again. 32bit CAN address more than 4GB RAM, but can address only 4GB per thread.
[23:11] <OwiecPL1986> alami: its no sense install 32-bit OS with 64-bit CPU. Just lose performance.
[23:11] <alami> OwiecPL1986: ok so what's the solution now?
[23:12] <alami> new install?
[23:12] <bekks> alami: Yes.
[23:12] <alami> what do you thing bekks?
[23:12] <alami> ohh :)
[23:12] <markovh> how does the whole launchpad work with debian/ubuntu bugs? Bugs don't automatically get imported to ubuntu from the debian bug center do they?
[23:12] <alami> okay but can i install 32bit package on 64bit os?
[23:12] <OwiecPL1986> alami: install 64-bit if you think about your linux really seriously and want to stays with this system for years? If you just trying new system can stay with 32-bit.
[23:12] <bekks> alami: Yes.
[23:13] <alami> OwiecPL1986:bekks: thanks a lot
[23:13] <alami> i understand now a lot about CPU
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> k1l: its an ANY CPU I can find thing :)
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> k1l: statement was 'there are no 32bit 4cores' :D
[23:14] <k1l> ActionParsnip: ;p
[23:14] <alami> pity that there isn't any way to upgrade from 32bits to 64bits :D
[23:15] <OwiecPL1986> alami: i am pretty sure if you have fresh isntall 32-bit it will be much faster if you reinstall with 64-bit then complicate howto change 32-bit system into 64-bit
[23:15] <dpurgert> bekks, that's only with PAE extensions (OK, yeah, that's relatively trivial ... ) but 4GB is still a limit ... and why limit one's self?
[23:15] <bekks> dpurgert: Thats the point where we agree again :)
[23:15] <alami> OwiecPL1986: i use ubuntu the hole of my life but i have never had a new computer that's my first time
[23:16] <alami> :)
[23:16] <OwiecPL1986> alami: so you have fresh install i guess?
[23:16] <alami> OwiecPL1986: yes
[23:16] <alami> i will reinstall for sure :)
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> k1l: UltraSPARC T1 can be 4, 8 or 16 core and be 32bit :)
[23:16] <OwiecPL1986> alami: why you complicate you live so much? ;) If you have fresh system just reinstall with 64-bit.
[23:17] <k1l> ActionParsnip: got me
[23:17] <dpurgert> bekks, yeah ... and forgive the generalization --> i deal with non tech-savvy people all day :)  it's easier to go with things they can understand
[23:17] <alami> OwiecPL1986: i will do it
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> k1l: fun game
[23:17] <OwiecPL1986> ok i am going read a book. For now my problem dont have any solution...
[23:20] <schep> Thanks for the suggestions, guys.  I'm taking it to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12443900
[23:23] <SpaceBass> I've got a static IP set in /etc/network/interfaces and it will work for about 12 hours, but always reverts back to a DHCP address - this is 12.04 server (no gui), never had this problem before
[23:23] <KongfuPanda> GNU: Gonna Need Umbrella
[23:23] <SpaceBass> my config: http://pastebin.ca/2300251
[23:25] <Awolf> Hello all. I'm having trouble in installing my nvidia geforce gt 630M drivers on ubuntu 12.04  since i have a dual gpu and i need help
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> SpaceBass: is the system in the router dhcp clients list?
[23:27] <SpaceBass> ActionParsnip, yes
[23:28] <mistergibson> what is the actual format of a .deb file?  tar.gz?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> SpaceBass: try removing it, maybe it is seeing the lease expire and sending the updated address from the pool
[23:28] <MonkeyDust> SpaceBass  and if you comment out dns-nameservers ?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> mistergibson: if you grab a deb file and run:   ar x filename.deb     you will see the files
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> mistergibson: I suggest you make a subfolder to work in first
[23:28] <mistergibson> ActionParsnip: thanks
[23:29] <SpaceBass> MonkeyDust, I'll try
[23:29] <SpaceBass> ActionParsnip, thanks, removing the lease now
[23:29] <Awolf> Any help on how i can disable the onboard gpu ?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Awolf: in BIOS
[23:30] <Awolf> and use my nvidia
[23:30] <Awolf> ?
[23:30] <SpaceBass> I guess I can add a static map?but seems like I should be able to set the static IP on the system
[23:30] <adamk> Awolf: If it's an Optimus laptop, you can't typically disable the intel GPU.
[23:30] <adamk> You can check the BIOS, but that option probably does not exist.
[23:30] <Awolf> actionparsnip any idea in which section exactly ?
[23:30] <adamk> You need to look into a project called Bumblebee.
[23:30] <Awolf> i have an acer i5
[23:30] <MonkeyDust> SpaceBass  i've never used 'dns-nameservers' to give a static ip address
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Awolf: BIOSes are wildly varied, you'll have to sniff around
[23:30] <Awolf> Ill check BIOS
[23:31] <SpaceBass> MonkeyDust, it's an alternative to using resolve.conf, I'll take it out
[23:31] <Awolf> and go back to bumblebee
[23:31] <MonkeyDust> SpaceBass  ok, wasn't aware
[23:31] <Awolf> must i install my nvidia drivers first ?
[23:31] <Awolf> or i can do it later on?
[23:31] <adamk> No idea.  I've never used Bumblebee and generally avoid nvidia.
[23:31] <Awolf> I am going to check BIOS thank you for now
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> I just avoid optimus, nvidia is great
[23:32] <Kion1> since I upgraded to 12.10, I have a little window pop up saying that a problem with a system program has been detected and If I click the inform button It asks for my password, ¿could it be some sort of phishing?
[23:33] <Kion1> It does not have the usual little triangle that opens and tells you what program you are talking about
[23:36] <Rhonda> I am a bit lost with ufw.  Someone around who knows how to make it possible to get lxc through, with masquerading?
[23:36] <Rhonda> Thing is, lxc seems to add masquerading rules for lxc, but the packets are nevertheless blocked by ufw, and I'm a bit lost in the syntax.
[23:36] <zg> what in the actual f--- just happened here? http://i.imgur.com/R6n7X.png
[23:36] <ceylan> I have been using unity-mail for 3 days but suddenly started not to show unread count
[23:37] <zg> my computer entirely froze up
[23:37] <zg> and I had difficulty in trying to close the virtual machine after installation
[23:37] <ceylan> uninstalled and reinstalled but did not help
[23:38] <Kion1> Rhonda: Personally I find ufw too complex behind de scenes, I'd much rather use Iptables directly
[23:39] <Awolf> am back
[23:39] <Kion1> Rhonda: what is lxc?
[23:39] <Awolf> my BIOS has an option graphic mode i can switch it between
[23:39] <Awolf> integrated and switchable
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Awolf: I'd choose integrated and simply ignore the nvidia
[23:40] <Awolf> gnome 3 interface is not working
[23:40] <Awolf> i have it installed but it just goes back to gnome 2
[23:40] <ceylan> Can someone please help me with the unity-mail
[23:40] <Kion1> Rhonda: check that /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is set to 1
[23:40] <adamk> Awolf: Do you have the nvidia drivers installed?
[23:40] <dpurgert> ceylan, what do you need?
[23:41] <adamk> Awolf: Because, if so, the intel drivers will not work properly.
[23:41] <ceylan> I have been using unity-mail for 3 days and suddenly stopped showing
[23:41] <ceylan> unread mail count
[23:41] <dpurgert> ceylan, do you have any unread mail? :)
[23:41] <Awolf> i did install and uninstall it
[23:41] <ceylan> yes
[23:42] <Awolf> but could it still be in there
[23:42] <Awolf> ill just check bumblebee
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> ceylan: if you run:   ps -ef | grep mail     is it running?
[23:42] <ceylan> I sent from another account to gmail to check
[23:42] <Awolf> do u recommend it or is it too buggy?
[23:43] <ceylan> if I click on the icon it opens gmail page
[23:43] <Salastil> What is the best program for formatting and writing a new ISO to a USB Thumb drive? I'm yanking a Ubuntu image off and putting on a XBMC live image
[23:44] <dpurgert> Salastil, well, you won't want the ISO itself on the drive ...
[23:44] <Salastil> i mean make a boot image
[23:45] <Salastil> Gparted?
[23:45] <nicekiwi> I've just got a VPS server running Ubuntu 12.04.. how do I access it? VNC something?
[23:46] <ceylan> ceylan@ceylan-OptiPlex-390:~$ ps -ef | grep mail
[23:46] <ceylan> ceylan    4005  4001  0 01:27 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/unity-mail -c
[23:46] <ceylan> ceylan    4413  4355  0 01:45 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto mail
[23:46] <ceylan> ceylan@ceylan-OptiPlex-390:~$
[23:46] <FloodBot1> ceylan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:46] <dpurgert> Salastil, it depends on what the source is.  If it's a CD/DVD image, you should be able to mount the ISO and start the install running from within the currently running session ...
[23:47] <dpurgert> if it's just a package (e.g. raspbian), then something like dd
[23:47] <laddu> o/ Is there a way to put all my emails in POP for icedove? It seems that some emails are going into the POP and some aren't....whats up with that?
[23:47] <Salastil> it's for a seperate comp, I need it to boot off the USB so I can yank off OpenElec and put XBMCuntu on it
[23:47] <lorenx> excuse me... is it possibile to set the "alt + left click" key combination to resize windows? thanks
[23:47] <dpurgert> ah, so you're making a bootable USB drive
[23:48] <ceylan> ps -ef grp mail I get /usr/bin/phyton3/usr/bin/unity-mail-c
[23:48] <Salastil> uh what is the apt name for DD?
[23:48] <Salastil> for apt-get
[23:49] <dpurgert> Salastil, dd is already installed on your PC, it's part of the base installation (though it's a bit of a "you'd better know what you're doing" program)
[23:49] <Loshki> Salastil: um, have you looked at http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net ?
[23:49] <Salastil> yeah I've used that for Windows, didn't know it had a Linux version
[23:49] <dpurgert> Salastil, you could also use the "usb-imagewriter" application (found via a quick google search ... I dunno how good it is)
[23:50] <Salastil> usually there is a "best" program, wanted to use the one that had a good rep
[23:50] <cooflar_> Hi, ubuntu noob here. I can't mount my windows partition, the error message says that the partition is "already exclusively opened." I also see a small lock symbol in gparted. Any help?
[23:50] <Salastil> since I've only used Linux for 2 weeks I was uncertain of what that was
[23:50] <dpurgert> Salastil, well, "dd" is the "best" (tbh, most of the programs in linux distros will use it, and they're just wrappers)
[23:51] <zvacet> Salastil: see if http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ is good for you
[23:51] <dpurgert> Salastil, apparently Ubuntu also includes a "Startup Disk Creator" that you can use (should be in system -> administration -> startup disk creator, according to google)
[23:52] <Salastil> err
[23:52] <Salastil> my 7gig drive only shows 2mb space
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> cooflar_: did you install using wubi?
[23:52] <dpurgert> zvacet, that's interesting.  Now I've got to go grab a new (bigger) USB drive
[23:53] <cooflar_> ActionParsnip: Yup
[23:53] <zvacet> dpurgert:  :)