[12:00] <f||bber> Quinthius, What about /home , logical right?
[12:00] <cute_bettong> not quite how do i get rid of the black boarder?
[12:00] <robzon> apollo2011: hmmmmm... the second one doesn't work either?
[12:00] <Quinthius> f||bber: again, i dont think it makes any difference...
[12:00] <apollo2011> robzon: I just selected Spanish, without the eliminate dead keys and that fixed it.  Apparently ones with the drop downs are selectable too
[12:01] <thechitowncubs> Well I hope i just didn't format my whole drive...
[12:01] <CookedGryphon> is anyone here good with networks, i want to set up a direct connection, but the computers jsut aren't pinging or anything
[12:01] <cyprinus> hello, did anyone do upgrade from hoary to colony 4?
[12:01] <f||bber> Quinthius, Should "Bootable flag" be turned on, I have it on for / so need for /home right?
[12:01] <robzon> apollo2011: ok, cool :) how long have you been learning spanish, btw?
[12:01] <cyprinus> and with what's result's?
[12:01] <cute_bettong> Seaveas how do i make mplayer without the black border in fullscreen?
[12:01] <jamiie> Quick question for someone - how do i start enlightenment? I dont need details, just a rough idea of where to start
[12:02] <Quinthius> f||bber: i dont think bootable flag is needed, but just to be sure i turn it on for whatever partition im booting from (/boot, /dev/hda1, for me) ... no need to have it on for any others
[12:02] <nalioth> jamiie: from a login screen or terminal?
[12:02] <thechitowncubs> I just ran fsck with no parameters and it asked me to force a rewrite, and i said yes, is thay bad/good or what?
[12:02] <rob_p> njal: I've got another script that establishes forwarding and NAT if you want to give it a try... I wrote it specifically for Ubuntu.  I haven't tested it with a ppp interface yet but it should work.  You can get it here:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/28/76/
[12:02] <f||bber> Quinthius, Im booting from / this is ok?
[12:02] <njal> k i'll try that then
[12:03] <Quinthius> f||bber: actually bootable flag might be needed if you aren't booting from the MBR... but i dont know much about that
[12:03] <jamiie> nalioth: ive installed it, but it doesnt appear on the session chooser. I have no idea how to add it to the login screen
[12:03] <Quinthius> f||bber: yes / is fine if you dont have a seperate /boot partition
[12:03] <test34> anyone got the lexmark z33 (usb printer) working ?
[12:04] <f||bber> As you can see this is my first time manuall part'ing - Im dual booting on two separate disks I take it the bootloader comes after the part'ing, so i can install it on the first disk which is runniing windows?
[12:04] <apollo2011> robzon: 2 school yrs, I just started Spanish II
[12:04] <njal> rob_p will my ip address's <IP_ADDRESS> and 10.10.10,2 be fine for the script?
[12:04] <nalioth> jamiie: in your /usr/share/xsessions are all the login items. open one READ ONLY to use as a template and place the enlighenment stuff into the appropriate places. save the enlightenment file as 'Enlightnenment.desktop' in /usr/share/xsessions
[12:04] <rob_p> njal:  It'll automatically detect them!  (should detect them)  :-)
[12:04] <feugan3333> Anyone know a way to write to a NTFS partition from a non-Windows system?
[12:05] <jamiie> nalioth: thanks
[12:05] <nalioth> jamiie: overwriting any of the files in that dir, will drop one of your existing session options from your list
[12:05] <beekay> how do i make a quick script and execute it... like for example making m4a files into mp3
[12:05] <rob_p> njal:  Well, at least the local IP.  The scritp is designed to forward and NAT a whole subnet based on the IP assigned to the internal interface of the Ubuntu box.
[12:05] <h17m4n> QUestion: I'm using Firefox+Flash Plugin on chroot, but flash won't dysplay some texts. I installed a true type font pack, which fixed some fonts on regular pages, but won't fix the flash ones. Where should I place fonts for flash or what other font packs should I install?
[12:06] <Bergcube> feugan3333~ QTPartEd.
[12:06] <njal> right i'm just reading through it slowly
[12:06] <feugan3333> Bergcube: Thanks I'll take a look.
[12:06] <f||bber> Quinthius,  As you can see this is my first time manuall part'ing - Im dual booting on two separate disks I take it the bootloader comes after the part'ing, so i can install it on the first disk which is runniing windows?
[12:06] <beekay> how do i make a quick script and execute it... like for example making m4a files into mp3
[12:06] <rob_p> njal:  I included lots of documentation so  you should have no trouble getting it to work.
[12:07] <njal> Im clearing existing rules right now, i might as well be through
[12:07] <nalioths_dog> beekay: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[12:07] <beekay> k
[12:07] <feugan3333> Bergcube: Is it used for partitioning only?
[12:07] <rob_p> njal:  Also, the script itself is commented heavily in case you want to poke around in it...
[12:07] <disasm> njal: i got it
[12:08] <test34> does ubuntu use CUPS for printing ?
[12:08] <disasm> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[12:08] <Gnonthgol> test34: yes
[12:08] <disasm> i knew there i was missing
[12:08] <protok0l> how do i fix my firefox
[12:08] <njal> disasm as root?
[12:08] <Quinthius> f||bber: i think logical partitioning is just a way to get around the old limit of 4 partitions... i don't think it affects actual use in any way
[12:08] <disasm> njal: yeah
[12:08] <protok0l> i dont see a new one in apt
[12:09] <Bergcube> feugan3333~ It can also resize etc.  It does everything Partition Magic does, but better.
[12:09] <Quinthius> f||bber: i've always filled up primary partitions first and then gone on to logical for the 4th and up if i need more
[12:09] <test34> thanks Gnonthgol
[12:09] <disasm> njal: you can edit /etc/network/options so it says ip_forward=yes instead of no to make it do that on startup by default
[12:09] <ThePyromaniac> disasm: i did as you said, but when you say " then change root (hd0,0) to (sd0,x) where x is the partition -1 windows is installed in" how do i know what partition its in if its not installed?
[12:09] <njal> what was the last command again?
[12:09] <njal> the echo one?
[12:10] <disasm> ThePyromaniac: windows insn't installed yet?
[12:10] <f||bber> Quinthius, boot loader, tho, I will have ubuntu on disk 2 slave, win on disk 1, bootloader will write to disk 1 after part'ing?
[12:10] <ThePyromaniac> disarm: indeed not, as when i install windows it fucks up
[12:10] <Quinthius> f||bber: it will write to the MBR of disk 1, but only if you say yes when it asks
[12:10] <disasm> ThePyromaniac: did you leave a partition open for it?
[12:10] <ThePyromaniac> disam: i was thinking, i told it not to hide the menu by default, now it will ask what to boot when i install windows right? i boot into linux and finish it off
[12:11] <ThePyromaniac> disarm: there is free space yes
[12:11] <Quinthius> f||bber: if you say no, you'll need some other way to boot to ubuntu... like a bootdisk or something... not sure if the installer goes on to configure that or not
[12:11] <njal> disasm can you post the echo command again please?
[12:12] <disasm> ThePyromaniac: ok, well, windows is going to kill the mbr when it installs, so do you have a floppy on this machine?
[12:12] <disasm> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[12:12] <njal> thank you
[12:12] <brian__> je
[12:12] <feugan3333> Bergcube: I'm actually looking for something to rename a directory that windows is "protecting".
[12:12] <nate> anyone know anything about MIME types?  I need to setup mozilla to download a .run file instead of displaying it in the browser
[12:12] <ThePyromaniac> the drive is bust
[12:12] <Quinthius> f||bber: if you're not familiar with making changes to the MBR... i suggest making a windows boot disk or making sure you have the windows install cd around
[12:12] <f||bber> Quinthius, thanks, this is my setup on a 82GB disk: / = 20GB(EXT3) , /home = 61.8GB(EXT3),  /swap = 512MB(RAM x 2) - think that'll do it or bad config?
[12:13] <disasm> nate: right click save target as should do the trick
[12:13] <nate> disasm, no
[12:13] <nate> disasm, the link doesn't link to the file
[12:13] <njal> disasm permission denied
[12:13] <ThePyromaniac> disarm my floppy drive is screwed
[12:13] <Bergcube> feugan3333~ Then I think you need to mount the NTFS partition from Linux and do it from there.
[12:13] <nate> disasm, it links so some server-side script which gets my download
[12:14] <disasm> njal: sudo first
[12:14] <test34> did anybody created a package to make lexmark z33 driver installation easier ? (it's kind of messed up from what I'm reading right now..)
[12:14] <disasm> nate: so what are you trying to do, can you explain this a little more?
[12:14] <Quinthius> f||bber: looks fine, though i think 20g might be a lot for /... unless you're installing tons of stuff including games, i guess
[12:14] <dmk> good night everyone
[12:14] <ThePyromaniac> night
[12:14] <njal> Naw sudo didn't work i had to use sudo su
[12:15] <f||bber> Quinthius, Would you reccommend a smaller / and push it out to /home,
[12:15] <disasm> njal: did you get it echo'd?
[12:15] <Quinthius> f||bber: for a first time install i would just make everything on / (except swap of course which must have its own partition)
[12:15] <njal> don't know but ping <IP_ADDRESS> now works from the mac
[12:16] <feugan3333> Bergcube: I can't seem to mount the drive as r/w.
[12:16] <disasm> njal: sweet, try ping google.com (if it doesn't work you need to add dns servers to the mac)
[12:16] <zaphy> disasm: on my ubuntu box there is a /etc/network/options where I could set these things
[12:16] <disasm> zaphy: yes there is ;-)
[12:16] <Quinthius> f||bber: unless you plan on switching distros or have no way to back up anything from /home
[12:16] <f||bber> Quinthius, I was advised to separate /home tho for obvious reasons
[12:16] <disasm> zaphy: i mentioned that about 50 lines up or so ;-)
[12:16] <f||bber> Quinthius, Yeah..
[12:16] <nate> disasm, I click a link that gets a file for me and tries to download it.  Mozilla doesn't recognize the file type (.run) so it attempts to display it in the browser.  I cannot FTP to the location of the file to download it.  Wget cannot get it (no anonymous logins, and i tried what login i did have).  So I need to add a MIME type into Mozilla so that it recognizes the file type and takes the specified action, namely downloading it
[12:16] <ThePyromaniac> disarm: i know your bust dude, but please help ^^
[12:16] <njal> disasm cannot resolve google
[12:16] <ThePyromaniac> busy*
[12:16] <feugan3333> Bergcube: Ubuntu silently ignores the -o rw option.
[12:16] <zaphy> disasm: ah, just came in 2 minutes ago or sth.
[12:16] <disasm> njal: cat /etc/resolv.conf add the dns to your mac
[12:16] <holycow> nate, right click and do file save as
[12:17] <disasm> zaphy: no problem ;-)
[12:17] <nate> holycow, that does not work
[12:17] <feugan3333> Bergcube: Or should I say mount ignore the option.
[12:17] <holycow> really?
[12:17] <Bergcube> feugan3333~ Then I guess Ubuntu doesn't have the driver for that.  It's proprietary.  I am trying to think if I've stumbled across any lice CD that did that....
[12:17] <holycow> weird
[12:17] <nate> holycow, the link is to a server-side script which goes and links you to the file
[12:17] <holy_wood> "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "I can't configure Slackware"
[12:17] <holycow> ah!
[12:17] <njal> disasm right two numbers which one to use and sa what?
[12:17] <Gnonthgol> feugan3333: the ntfs drivers for linux doesnt suport writing
[12:17] <nate> holy_wood, lol
[12:17] <holycow> holy_wood, rofl!!
[12:17] <Quinthius> f||bber: well its up to you :) ... but if you aren't interested in installing games (like quake, doom, etc... the big ones) then i would maybe reduce / to 20g ...
[12:17] <njal> oh wait nevermind
[12:17] <Bergcube> feugan3333~ I tihnk PERHAPS Linspire will let you make changes.
[12:17] <holy_wood> \o/ !
[12:18] <nate> holy_wood, i'm only on ubuntu cuz i don't wanna take the time to install gentoo
[12:18] <disasm> nate: hmmm...
[12:18] <the4bagger> any1 know of a easy to use AOL dialer with a GUI?
[12:18] <nate> disasm, i know, its a crazy issue
[12:18] <holy_wood> I'm joking, i like Ubuntu!
[12:18] <sexcopter8001m> hello! in the screensaver options, there are some screensavers that are greyed out, ie not installed. where can i get them and how do i install them?
[12:18] <nate> disasm, had the problem before.  I had to configure a mime type last time
[12:18] <njal> disasm ok adding the ip addresses to dns failed
[12:18] <Quinthius> f||bber: but with a drive that big i dont think it matters much anyway... and if you fill up /home and have lots of space left on /, you could always make a /storage directory or something to use up that extra space
[12:18] <vbgunz> hello everyone... back for candy
[12:19] <feugan3333> Gnonthgol: The new driver according to http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net does support writing, even if it's experimental and dangerous.
[12:19] <f||bber> Quinthius, We're cooking, thanks alot for your help, much appreciated...now to config the bootloader!
[12:19] <zaphy> nate: Mozilla->options->download; there is abox where you can set up things
[12:19] <disasm> njal: how'd it fail?
[12:19] <Gnonthgol> ok
[12:19] <windex> the4bagger, administration->network connections not good enough?
[12:19] <f||bber> Quinthius, Bootloader is after base sys install I assume
[12:19] <Quinthius> f||bber: and whoops, i meant reduce to 10g, not 20g, typo :) ... but 20g is fine too
[12:19] <vbgunz> can anyone here confirm a bug with renaming files in Nautilus? The bug is when you go to rename a file only for a split second do you have access to rename it otherwise you cannot rename it...
[12:19] <Quinthius> f||bber: yes, it's the last thing pretty much
[12:19] <nate> zaphy, are you on drugs?
[12:19] <vbgunz> is this a feature? or a bug?
[12:20] <nate> zaphy, mozilla, not firefox
[12:20] <njal> same cannot resolve google.com, unless i added them in the wrong order or in the wrong field but i doubt the latter since i stuck both in the DNS field
[12:20] <nate> zaphy, and i'm asking what the mime type should be
[12:20] <nate> zaphy, because i already know the solution, just not the specifics
[12:20] <zaphy> nate: well, I see, `mozilla`started firefox :/
[12:20] <h17m4n> Thank you forums, you answered my question.
[12:20] <zaphy> nate:  sorry
[12:20] <disasm> can you ping the dns server?
[12:20] <f||bber> Quinthius, Does ubuntu not go through the usual package selection stuff or does it just install minimal? and thanks again
[12:20] <Quinthius> vbgunz: try clicking in the name area after hitting choosing rename maybe
[12:21] <njal> I'll try that now
[12:21] <nate> zaphy, sorry if i'm snippy, allergies + allergy medicine + caffeine = snippy nate
[12:21] <vbgunz> I never have that amount of time... even from right clicking > rename > trying to click back > it closes to quickly
[12:21] <Quinthius> f||bber: the default install has a set group of packages that are installed.. it's not a matter of "minimal vs full"
[12:21] <njal> disasm yes i can ping both
[12:21] <Quinthius> f||bber: i think in custom install you can tweak it some though
[12:22] <zaphy> nate: not wanting to disturb - does the page-info show the mime-type of current displayed page in mozilla as well, firefox does.
[12:22] <vbgunz> I've always had this problem... In order to rename a file I must attempt to rename then the second it opens up hit a key on the keyboard... then it will remain in focus
[12:22] <f||bber> Quinthius, Im coming from Fedora, so you can imagine Im a little aprehnsive! dont want a full, but thats cool
[12:22] <vbgunz> otherwise it goes to rename *but* closes out immediately... it's starting to bother :(
[12:22] <Quinthius> vbgunz: i dunno, maybe try clicking in the name area after hitting rename... maybe it's just losing focus for some reason?
[12:22] <HrdwrBoB> vbgunz: press F2?
[12:23] <disasm> njal: try going to <IP_ADDRESS>:8000/ in a web browser
[12:23] <zaphy> nate: that should be a '?', not a '.'
[12:23] <disasm> njal: on the mac
[12:23] <nate> zaphy, checking, brb
[12:23] <HrdwrBoB> vbgunz: that is a bug buy it only happens when you are changing things in the directory
[12:23] <Quinthius> f||bber: well it's not a "full-blown everything-included" kind of install... but it installs basic apps for a lot of common needs
[12:23] <HrdwrBoB> if you're doing nothing else it's fine
[12:23] <vbgunz> same behaviour... something wrong I believe, curious if anyone experiencing it too... wish to know if it is a bug or if it is a special feature to linux in whole
[12:23] <vbgunz> oh it is a bug?
[12:23] <f||bber> Quinthius, Im looking forward to this distro, heard a lot of good things
[12:23] <njal> gentux.org, right?
[12:23] <disasm> njal: yeah
[12:23] <HrdwrBoB> vbgunz: I would say so, it'
[12:24] <HrdwrBoB> s it's happened to me
[12:24] <disasm> njal: it's my router/server here ;-)
[12:24] <vbgunz> F2 seems a better option
[12:24] <HrdwrBoB> I know WHY but it's still not optimal
[12:24] <njal> Hmm
[12:24] <njal> ok then
[12:24] <vbgunz> but I remember it happend with F2 before
[12:24] <Quinthius> vbgunz: i dont have that problem now, but it seems like in my past uses of gnome on other distros i had that problem
[12:24] <KirikaPhoenix> Any chance someone can give me a hand getting my sound to work? (nforce4 chipset , nvidia audio driver compiled but I have no idea where to go from there)
[12:24] <Blissex> KirikaPhoenix: yes.
[12:24] <njal> My web browser is trying to resolve mozilla now
[12:24] <disasm> hey, is there a rescue mode like in the old debian floppies for booting ubuntu after windows wipes out the mbr so you can reinstall to the mbr?
[12:24] <HrdwrBoB> vbgunz: yeah it's a systemic problem
[12:25] <disasm> like ubuntu root=/dev/sda1 or something?
[12:25] <Blissex> disasm: yes.
[12:25] <vbgunz> it's not major... the surest way around it is too rename > immediately press a key "Ctrl, etc works" and then go about renaming it...
[12:25] <njal> disasm what does this mean then, i am able to connect to your router but not connect to google or anything
[12:25] <njal> oh wait i have goole now
[12:26] <KirikaPhoenix> So having run the installer for the nvidia audio driver, what do I need to do now?
[12:26] <disasm> no, it means the name servers aren't working...
[12:26] <vbgunz> sorry it doesn't... now it's not letting me keep focus at all... anyhow F2 seems to be working now
[12:26] <njal> So what do i do now?
[12:26] <disasm> njal: ok, never mind, i guess they are working ;-)
[12:26] <disasm> njal: you have google.com or google
[12:26] <nate> zaphy, nothing on the mime type, but i found a possible way around it.  If I view the page source it allows me to save the page
[12:26] <disasm> njal: ip resolving
[12:27] <nate> zaphy, naw, that doesn't work, it says its 1 KB?
[12:27] <njal> disasm dispite the fact i brought google up in my browser it wont ping
[12:27] <rob_p> njal:  Do you have a lookup utility such as nslookup or dig, on your Mac?
[12:27] <zaphy> nate: in firefox (have to say this after your rant) you can use "save page as" when it has loaded, but do not have a mozilla-suite right now.
[12:27] <disasm> odd, well try ubuntulinux.org and see if it comes up
[12:28] <njal> Um i don't know, so i presume no
[12:28] <zaphy> nate: is this a public server so I can have a look?
[12:28] <lips> hi all i have strange problem with wlan under ubuntu is there anuone with experience with network configuration?
[12:28] <disasm> lips: yuppers
[12:28] <disasm> lips: whats the issue?
[12:29] <lips> disasm i have notebook with 802.11 build in, ubuntu was working fine with it and my home wrt54g router in deafult (public dhcp network) config
[12:29] <njal> Oh never mind i can ping google now
[12:30] <lips> disasm today i visited a friend of mine with another router, he has WEP encryption enabled so i configured ubuntu with network name and poassword. now i'm back home and it sems to be unable to find my router at all
[12:31] <robtaylor> hey, i've just done a dist-upgrade to breezy today and i'm getting a lot of bus errors. anyone else seen this?
[12:31] <absenth> is there a site that covers what items are still not working in breezy?
[12:32] <njal> disasm i still seem to be having problem's i think ubuntu now blocks certain ports coz i can use my browser but not connect to any IM protocal
[12:32] <lips> disasm router is working for sure - i can use with another computer as you can see :-)
[12:32] <nate> zaphy, its matrox, let em give ya the link
[12:33] <Blissex> robtaylor: that was a very bad idea.
[12:33] <f||bber> Quinthius, HELP! "GRUB loading, please wait..." Error 21   WTF?
[12:33] <nate> asl;kdjfl;asdjkf
[12:33] <robtaylor> Blissex: mm. i gathered. whats the issue, is there a fix?
[12:33] <nate> f||bber, go to grub's page and look up that error
[12:33] <theeil> ~/bin is in my path on TTY1 but not in gnome-terminal, is there a workaround without exporting path every time i log on?
[12:34] <Blissex> robtaylor: probably some wrong library dependency. If you know 'aptitude' well you can probably fix it fairly easily.
[12:34] <lips> disasm?
[12:34] <Blissex> robtaylor: try 'apt-get check' and/or look if there are some bad things with 'synaptic'
[12:34] <vbgunz> I've got a question which is pretty important to me... I will really appreciate anyone answering this... How do I back up my gnome panels, there settings, my themes and background?
[12:35] <Bad_Magic> Anyone have any suggestions as to how i can post the IP of my machine to website on a regular basis? (the only problem being im NATd and I would need to do my external IP)
[12:35] <vbgunz> not my themes but my current theme...
[12:35] <Blissex> absenth: Breezy does not exist, right now it is a random collection of packages in a repository, and that collection changes daily.
[12:35] <robtaylor> Blissex: mm. my package selection looks sane
[12:35] <nalioth> vbgunz: you have many . files in your home directory. these contain all your settings for your various programs
[12:35] <vbgunz> I wish to restore Ubuntu on to another pc but wish not to rearrange the panels, etc, them and background... I am curious as to how to transfer it over to the new machine... Any help is appreciated
[12:35] <Blissex> absenth: any issues will be in in the bugs tracking database, but changing hour by hours.
[12:36] <nalioth> vbgunz: as in .mozilla, .kde, etc
[12:36] <Blissex> robtaylor: then some of those libraries or apps are broken...
[12:36] <Blissex> robtaylor: which exact problems do you get?
[12:36] <absenth> Blissex: and Where would that database be is the bit I was getting at.
[12:36] <nalioth> vbgunz: so  backing up your homedirectory would be the thing to do
[12:36] <vbgunz> I believe I just wish to save my desktop... the panels I've setup the way I want, the desktop and theme "clearlooks" and the background...
[12:36] <nalioth> vbgunz: or transferring it over the network
[12:36] <vbgunz> ok that would save it? Awesome
[12:36] <Pyf> im trying to set up last.fm radio (audioscrobbler) ive downloaded a tar.bz2 file, what do i do with it?
[12:37] <vbgunz> let me check it's size
[12:37] <sexcopter8000m> can anybody tell me how to install screensavers?
[12:37] <robtaylor> Blissex: mm. well for a start the postinst for libgtk2.0-bin is failing as i get a bus error in /usr/bin/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders
[12:37] <disasm> lips: sorry, was working on a server, i'm back
[12:37] <robtaylor> Blissex: afaict all gtk apps are bus-erroring :S
[12:37] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: you using synaptic?
[12:37] <vbgunz> wow it's not that big
[12:38] <Blissex> robtaylor: almost surely a bug in the package. You can hardly do anything for it, except to wait for a fixed package.
[12:38] <vbgunz> its kind of small... 283kb...
[12:38] <Blissex> robtaylor: I would suggest looking at the bug/issue database as almost surely this has been reported.
[12:38] <Kuresu> dammit
[12:38] <lips> disasm ok
[12:38] <Kuresu> cedega won't install
[12:38] <Kuresu> it requires these libs
[12:38] <Kuresu> libc6
[12:38] <Kuresu> and libasound2
[12:38] <warezuser> hello
[12:38] <Kuresu> and i can't update them
[12:38] <Kuresu> can someone help
[12:39] <disasm> lips: what did you use for the wep password? gui util, or something else?
[12:39] <njal> disasm I'm having some success but still failing in other areas
[12:39] <benjanet> how do i play WMV (ASF) on breezy ?
[12:39] <lips> disasm gui, i avoid touching cli
[12:39] <Blissex> Kuresu: probably it is _downgrade_ them, because offs are that Cedega was built for an official release, in the past.
[12:39] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth: yes, i can install stuff on synaptic ok. but there are some screensavers in system->prefs->screensaver which are "not installed" and i don't know how to get them
[12:39] <robtaylor> Blissex: zarro boogs
[12:39] <Madpilot> !tell benjanet about restricted
[12:40] <Kuresu>  so..
[12:40] <Blissex> robtaylor: unlikely -- or else it is just you that's jinxed.
[12:40] <Bad_Magic> Anyone have any suggestions as to how i can post the IP of my machine to website on a regular basis? (the only problem being im NATd and I would need to do my external IP)
[12:40] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: that is indeed a good question. have you searched in synaptic (package names and contents) for screensavers? you may have missed a pkg or two
[12:40] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth: looking as we speak
[12:40] <robtaylor> Blissex: mm. i know. could be a transitional error just today
[12:40] <Blissex> Bad_Magic: some online services do that, by looking up the IP address they get from you.
[12:41] <disasm> lips: what util is it?
[12:41] <disasm> njal: whats going on?
[12:41] <Bad_Magic> any suggested ones?
[12:41] <DewLinux> hrmm
[12:41] <Blissex> robtaylor: sort of unlikely, but yes, it is possible.
[12:41] <DewDude> better
[12:42] <njal> I can't seem to get any chat protocals open no irc no msn, and i can't even get apple update manager working
[12:42] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth: well, searching the name of an example screensaver (this one being "cosmos") throws up nothing
[12:42] <lips> disasm there is more than one? in an upper screen corner i have battery indincator and network indicator. so this one.
[12:42] <Blissex> robtaylor: what you could do, if you knew how all these things work, is to hack the libgtk posting script, this would allow libgtk to install, and this may fix the rest
[12:42] <dampjam> My laptop just can back from the shop imaged with xp - I'm re-downloading the ubuntu iso now and wanted to know if Breezy is stable enough to do a fresh install with
[12:42] <sexcopter8000m> i just installed kscreensavers
[12:42] <sexcopter8000m> didn't seem to do much
[12:42] <njal> but i can use google under camino
[12:42] <Blissex> dampjam: no it is not.
[12:42] <dampjam> Blissex: any major glaring bugs, or just little annoyances that will be patched soon?
[12:42] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: search the pkg names and contents for "screensave" and see if anything got left out
[12:42] <disasm> njal: thats oddd
[12:43] <njal> wait google talk is up now
[12:43] <Blissex> PLEASE PLEASE YOU ALL STOP USING Breezy UNLESS YOU ARE A DEVELOPER. Ubuntu HAS 6 MONTH RELEASE CYCLES SO JUST WAIT
[12:43] <benjanet> Madpilot, thanks
[12:43] <dampjam> Blissex: :) it is for humans
[12:43] <abarbaccia> hey all - how useable is breezy, now that its release is only a month away
[12:43] <abarbaccia> ?
[12:44] <robtaylor> Blissex: btw i am the debian libgnomeprint maint. broken packages i can cope with, random bus errors are a bit on teh weird side tho..
[12:44] <disasm> Blissex: oh :( but its fun having a broken system ;-)
[12:44] <Blissex> dampjam: Breezy DOES NOT EXIST! there is a repository called "Breezy" that contains a _random_ selection of packages.
[12:44] <benjanet> abarbaccia, very usable
[12:44] <c0a0r0l0o0s> Castellano ?
[12:44] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth: quite a few packages from that search are uninstalled, but nothing that sounds relevant
[12:45] <sexcopter8000m> its not really important tbh
[12:45] <Sela> i need help installing dualboot on a 2nd partition
[12:45] <disasm> lips: you dont know the name of it by any chance, do you?
[12:45] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: then you've stumped me
[12:46] <lips> disasm it says connection properties when i click on it, than i choose configure
[12:46] <tear> !wine
[12:46] <Sela> how do i assign the partition to be used as main by ubuntu ?
[12:46] <disasm> anyone know the name of the wireless config utility (gui) thats default with ubuntu?
[12:46] <Concord_Dawn> disasm, network-admin?
[12:47] <njal> isn't ndiswrapper supposed to have a gui?
[12:47] <disasm> Concord_Dawn: yup thats probly it
[12:47] <disasm> njal: not that i know of
[12:47] <njal> oh sorry then
[12:47] <lips> disasm enter admin passworand got to network administration tool
[12:47] <disasm> dang network-admin doesn't like opening in flux, it just crashed :(
[12:48] <Tartaros> is there MONO project among the supported pakcages? or where can I look (without having ubuntu installed, yet)
[12:48] <disasm> lips: gotta logout, i'm in flux, brb
[12:48] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone have a rc.d file for xlink kaid?
[12:48] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth: just tell me this, do you have a screensaver called "cosmos" installed?
[12:49] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: let me look
[12:49] <f||bber> Quinthius, You there man?
[12:49] <disasm> lips: ok, i'm in gnome now :)
[12:49] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: no i dont
[12:50] <lips> disasm ok :-)))
[12:50] <disasm> thats right, gksudo needs my password, not root password ;-)
[12:51] <disasm> lips: ok, so you put in the wep key and the network name at your friends, and it doesn't work at your place any more right?
[12:51] <lips> disasm i'm a dumb end user, so in order to make it all easy i set all password to be the same (yes, yes, i know :-)
[12:51] <lips> disasm right
[12:52] <disasm> lips: if your a dumb end user your root password shouldn't be set ;-)
[12:52] <disasm> i hate gui utilities, they dont tell you anything
[12:53] <disasm> well, i'd say if essid is blank, and wep key is blank, and config is dhcp, and the check by this device is configured, it should work
[12:53] <lips> diasm i know it should, but it doesn't :-(((
[12:53] <disasm> brb, i gotta get out of this gnome environment before i go nuts ;-)
[12:53] <lgsobalvarro> hello Riddell
[12:54] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: i've googled that, and it appears to be shareware/proprietary
[12:54] <disasm> there we go, got my sanity back aka switched to flux
[12:55] <disasm> lips: open up a term, type in iwlist scan
[12:55] <disasm> lips: and not the word in
[12:55] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth: interesting
[12:55] <lips> did it
[12:56] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: but you still bring up a good question: how to install screenies in linux
[12:56] <disasm> and do you see your wireless network?
[12:56] <lips> disasm it found eth1 interface, found linksys router
[12:56] <lips> says that mode is master, freq 2.462 (channel 11)
[12:56] <selinium> HI there, I have changed my /home directory onto another drive. NOw i am getting gnome.conf errors. Any ideas anyone?
[12:56] <disasm> type iwconfig
[12:57] <a1zi> hey how are you all doing?
[12:57] <lips> disasm did it, and says a lot about my router
[12:57] <disasm> selinium: make sure you dont have anything important, but i'd rm -rf ~/.gnome* personally
[12:57] <lips> disasm which parameter is intersting?
[12:57] <ubuntu> hey everyone
[12:58] <none_-> probably nothing, _tester_
[12:58] <none_-> _lui_ that is
[12:58] <disasm> lips: essid is what we are looking for
[12:58] <a1zi> can anyone help me set up an anonymous ftp site on this ubuntu box... otherwise i will have to go back to windows and i dont want to do that
[12:58] <none_-> linux has less than 3% of the desktop market
[12:58] <ubuntu> I just burned this ubuntu linux and I need some help if anyone is interested
[12:58] <disasm> a1zi: you have a firewall?
[12:58] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth: maaayybe of interest, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56732&highlight=screensaver+install
[12:58] <lips> essid is "linksys" exactly hoiw i named my router when i was using it for the first time
[12:58] <selinium> disasm, what would that do, and how would i/it recover?
[12:59] <omp342> is there a way to add a trash icon to the desktop without manually creating the launcher?
[12:59] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: gracias
[12:59] <a1zi> disasm, i have a router and software firwalls
[12:59] <_lui_> well, maybe the things could be harder for linux
[12:59] <ubuntu> can i connect to aim servers through this chat program
[12:59] <disasm> a1zi: sudo apt-get install proftpd will get you an ftp server
[12:59] <_lui_> or maybe windows dissapear :)))
[12:59] <none_-> as long as linux remains free and open source, it'll be here.. imo
[12:59] <none_-> yeah
[12:59] <none_-> i think it will eat into the windows market
[12:59] <a1zi> where do i put my files then.. in what DIR and how do i configure it?
[01:00] <disasm> a1zi: this is a good tutorial on configing it: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/228
[01:00] <disasm> lips: ok, ifconfig eth1 make sure you have an ip address in there
[01:01] <thedevilsjester> Ok, my 'main' user has access to the USB removable devices, yet any user I create after that, doesnt have permissions, what do I need to do to change this?
[01:01] <a1zi> thank you disasn
[01:01] <selinium> hi nalioth :)
[01:01] <_lui_> now, thinking it better, windows is going to dissapear in front of macos for every processor
[01:01] <a1zi> disasm, thank you
[01:01] <thedevilsjester> the other user(s) have all Privileges selected except Executing system administration
[01:01] <nalioth> selinium: howdy
[01:02] <_lui_> and you know what?, they are going to release it, maybe only for x64, but they will
[01:02] <disasm> thedevilsjester: /etc/fstab make sure it says user
[01:02] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: would you be able to install a screenie from that page you sent me/
[01:02] <selinium> nalioth: do you know much about gnome?
[01:02] <none_-> OSX is pretty damn good, from what i hear
[01:02] <lips> disasm sorry, no IP in results seems to be not working
[01:02] <nalioth> selinium: short li'l folk who live in the gardern?
[01:03] <none_-> hope they do release it
[01:03] <CookedGryphon> COUld anyone help me set up a linmodem on my laptop?
[01:03] <disasm> _lui_: your nuts if you thing apple is going to release mac as a piece of software, i can see them using a different architecture, but mac will always only legally run on mac hardware
[01:03] <thedevilsjester> disasm, its not listed in my fstab, I never know how many devices will be hooked up
[01:03] <none_-> for other archs, that is
[01:03] <nalioth> selinium: i know a bit about gnome, yes
[01:03] <luckyaba> anyone use camserv before?
[01:03] <disasm> thedevilsjester: ok, what are you using to manage the usb drives, hotplug?
[01:03] <selinium> nalioth, lol, no, i am having problems since moving my /home to another drive. the .conf is unwritable.
[01:03] <nalioth> selinium: check your permissions
[01:04] <thedevilsjester> disasm, whatever is on by default
[01:04] <nalioth> selinium: also, if your username has changed or anything
[01:04] <disasm> selinium: try chown -R user /home/user where user is you username
[01:04] <disasm> selinium: err, sudo that command
[01:04] <thedevilsjester> disasm, this is a fairly new kubuntu install, when I plug, say, my camera in, it automatically mounts it and allows me to access it
[01:04] <selinium> disasm, I have chown/chmod -R all ~/
[01:04] <disasm> ah, i see, so the kde-volume manager basically
[01:05] <thedevilsjester> disasm, me? (im in gnome)
[01:05] <disasm> selinium: the only thing i can think of is remove all the gnome settings, rm -rf ~/.gnome* would be the easiest, maybe before doing that create a new user, and see if they have any issues
[01:05] <disasm> thedevilsjester: oh, i thought you said kubuntu ;-)
[01:06] <selinium> disasm, I can do that, will gnome reset itself afterwards?
[01:06] <_lui_> disasm, you'll see. Think about this... how they can make more money, selling expensive macs with only hardware for mac or putting their OS for everybody in front of the sh*t of windows? You can bet it, everybody will go to mac.
[01:06] <nalioth> selinium: dont wipe your .gnome*, just rename it and move it somewhere
[01:06] <selinium> nalioth, ok
[01:06] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth: not sure. in /usr/share/xscreensaver/config there seems to be a long list of screensavers, but no idea what to do there
[01:06] <djur> how do I list available network resources (networked computers, printers, etc?)
[01:06] <sexcopter8000m> maybe add files to that directory, though there is a file for cosmos already
[01:06] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: something to look into
[01:06] <abarbaccia> hey - if i want to install breezy but do a real clean install- just keep my data - do i format all the partitions except for home, and delete all the . files?
[01:06] <_lui_> disasm, it's a matter of market they not have because of strategy
[01:06] <shamus> what can i use for .rar archives?
[01:07] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: ask me later (or tell me something if you figger it out)
[01:07] <none_-> shamus: unrar
[01:07] <nalioth> shamus: unrar-nonfree
[01:07] <shamus> thanks
[01:07] <none_-> get the nonfree version
[01:07] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth: yep, but maybe another day, i'm getting tired and will retire to bed soon!
[01:07] <disasm> _lui_: apple has always been a hardware company, there business model is based on the hardware, if they release macos without hardware, they lose the hardware market to everyone but the most die-hard apple people
[01:07] <tear> !chroot
[01:07] <ubotu> chroot is probably at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[01:07] <sexcopter8000m> ok, will keep you posted on it nalioth
[01:07] <nalioth> disasm: i've wasted good money on a powermac just to run ubuntu on it
[01:07] <disasm> selinium: gnome will set itself up originally like it was when you first installed ubuntu if you remove the settings
[01:08] <none_-> eventually software will be more expensive than hardware
[01:08] <selinium> disasm, Cheers!
[01:08] <njal> ok disasm thanks for all the help some things are working but some things aren't, i'll play about see what i can do
[01:08] <none_-> i think they'll eventually port it
[01:08] <thedevilsjester> disasm, any idea what group, or app I have to use to allow other users to access removeable drives?
[01:09] <disasm> nalioth: if i could afford mac hardware, i'd run ppc linux on a mac too, it's better hardware, but the thing is most people will say, ooh, i can buy a computer for $200 and put macos on it now...
[01:09] <none_-> change the permissions on the devices, thedevilsjester
[01:09] <nalioth> thedevilsjester: if you open system > admin > users and groups, you can set that up
[01:09] <disasm> thedevilsjester: not sure
[01:09] <nalioth> disasm: true. and get what they pay for
[01:09] <thedevilsjester> nalioth, doesnt work
[01:09] <nalioth> thedevilsjester: hmm, then i'm lost
[01:10] <thedevilsjester> nalioth, all options except "Execute Admin tasks" is already selected
[01:10] <selinium> disasm, DO i just restart x or reboot?
[01:10] <jazzanova> hi
[01:10] <_lui_> disasm, yep, but they are losing or not winning every year, being a hardware company doesn't mean success no more if you haven't increased your sales and your market in the way expected trough all this years, and the things are going to stay in that way if they don't put that OS on the people's face at low cost
[01:10] <disasm> selinium: restart X will be fine
[01:10] <aio> interesting problem - sometimes when i put a blank cd-r into my cd/dvd burner (on my laptop) it pops up nautilus with burn:/// in the location, but doesn't show the blank media
[01:10] <luckyaba> my camserv is running very choppy. anyone know why that might be
[01:11] <selinium> disasm, Cheers :)
[01:11] <none_-> maybe the cd was a dud
[01:11] <DewDude> bah
[01:11] <DewDude> i think DRI is locking up X
[01:11] <tear> is it possible to chroot wine?
[01:12] <aio> but then when I edit /etc/fstab, comment out the cd-drive entry, save it, then uncomment the entry and save it, I get a "Blank CD-R Disk" on my desktop and all seems well
[01:12] <jazzanova> i am using ubuntu live cd to do some urgent hard-disk manipulation stuff, and i am missing ext2resize, where can i get it ?
[01:12] <aio> i usually close nautilus before this, so I don't know what happens in nautilus...
[01:12] <tear> or is there a wine for the 64bit architecture?
[01:12] <none_-> probably not, tear
[01:12] <tear> now that sux
[01:12] <none_-> i take that back
[01:12] <disasm> thedevilsjester: try sudo adduser <name_of_user> plugdev
[01:12] <none_-> i think i compiled it on my gentoo system
[01:12] <tear> ohh well, there will be one by time
[01:13] <none_-> the windows dlls don't work though
[01:13] <disasm> why is cupsys in dial-out group?
[01:13] <tear> and I was hoping to play expekt poker tonight *sob*
[01:13] <none_-> aio.. that makes no sense
[01:13] <_lui_> disasm, windows it's a hard competition you know? but right now, macos is the only one who can destroy it in 2 years, maybe less :))) guaranteed.
[01:13] <aio> none_- i know
[01:13] <nalioth> jazzanova: use parted or install qtparted
[01:14] <aio> none_- but that's the behavior i see
[01:14] <none_-> seems like a bug
[01:14] <aio> sometimes it works when i boot up and sometimes not.
[01:14] <R60org-Sav> should i be concerned about warnings while compileing a new kernel?
[01:14] <jazzanova> nalioth: i see, i don't need to resize the partition, i need to make the filesystem, fill the whole partiton.
[01:14] <aio> none_- yeah - wondering if it's a bug with the driver....
[01:14] <none_-> no R60org-Sav
[01:14] <lips> disasm so what should i do now?
[01:14] <dalamar> *nothing* could destroy windows in 2 years period, it has way to strong a foothold
[01:14] <thedevilsjester> disasm, 'already a member'
[01:14] <disasm> _lui_: can you really see that happening though?
[01:15] <none_-> what program is responsible for automagically mounting cd-roms?
[01:15] <selinium> disasm: Here is the error i get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1976
[01:15] <none_-> detecting discs
[01:15] <none_-> whatever
[01:16] <disasm> thedevilsjester: must be the admin account that gives it hotplug rights then, maybe someone else has the answer for you
[01:16] <_lui_> disasm, yes 'cause mac released a macos for Intel, and let it filtered trough the net
[01:16] <selinium> disasm: Here is the error i get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1977    sorry Updated
[01:16] <Seveas> none_-, hal/udev
[01:16] <fsmw__> _lui_, but macos will not run on every intel hardware
[01:17] <selinium> Seveas: Can you have a look at this error please  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1977 Cheers
[01:17] <fsmw__> not cheap intel harware so will not able to go against windows
[01:17] <none_-> aio: you could try restarting hald
[01:17] <none_-> to see if it is responsible
[01:17] <disasm> selinium: rm -rf ~/.gconf
[01:17] <_lui_> fsmw_, that is the introduction...
[01:18] <selinium> disasm, Cheers wil give it a go!
[01:18] <aio> none_- where is the start/stop for hald?  i don't see it in /etc/init.d....
[01:18] <fsmw__> i'm not sure about it
[01:18] <a1zi> how do i change the permission of a folder?
[01:18] <none_-> try udev
[01:18] <fsmw__> you need a very good harware to run macos
[01:19] <none_-> a1zi: chmod
[01:19] <aio> none_- ok - there's a udev
[01:19] <a1zi> any switches?
[01:19] <none_-> yes
[01:19] <none_-> man chmod
[01:19] <none_-> ;)
[01:19] <fsmw__> i guess that macos got some chance if they can be cracked as windows is, so people can copy it
[01:19] <_lui_> fsmw_, that is merchandising
[01:19] <none_-> udev probably checks for changes to fstab
[01:19] <fsmw__> that's the way that windows go over the world, people don't care about it because they don't pay for it
[01:20] <none_-> if that happens again, restart it
[01:20] <aio> well - it was working before i restarted udev and still is.  if i have the problem again, i'll restart it....
[01:20] <aio> none_- thx
[01:20] <NoUse> a1zi man chmod
[01:20] <none_-> :)
[01:21] <tommy_h>  $classpath ,  are they different for each user?
[01:21] <selinium> disasm, that didn't work either
[01:21] <tommy_h> like root and ordinary users?
[01:21] <a1zi> nouse  i cant get it.. i want to chmod the \home\ftp folder with write permissions
[01:22] <none_-> chmod +w /home/ftp
[01:22] <selinium> Seveas, Sorry, I had to restart gdm, if you replied.
[01:22] <NoUse> a1zi for what user?
[01:22] <a1zi> none_ thanks.   -w wasnt in the man
[01:22] <a1zi> for my use
[01:22] <NoUse> a1zi do you own that folder?
[01:22] <cafuego> !info bind9
[01:22] <ubotu> bind9: (Internet Domain Name Server), section net, is optional. Version: 1:9.2.4-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 269 kB, Installed size: 712 kB
[01:23] <none_-> hmm, sure doesn't.
[01:23] <sorush20> I can't load into my gnome desktop environment it keeps on crashing...
[01:23] <cafuego> sorush20: Check the logs and see what crashes it.
[01:23] <none_-> ah well, yes it does.. buried in the middle of a long paragraph
[01:23] <a1zi> nouse no
[01:23] <cafuego> sorush20: ctrl-alt-f1, login, see .xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:24] <a1zi> nouse it didnt work  i still can put my files in that folder
[01:24] <Duff> is there a way to install kubuntu and get it to use a 686-smp kernel from scratch and not have me install one later and have to enable smp/HT support ?
[01:24] <a1zi> nouse it didnt work  i still **cant** put my files in that folder
[01:24] <sorush20> ctrl-alt-f1 will log me out and back in again
[01:24] <a1zi> none_ it didnt work  i still **cant** put my files in that folder
[01:24] <NoUse> a1zi you need to own it to be able to put files in it, man chown
[01:24] <arentie> how do I get my Kingston USB Flash drive to work with Ubuntu 5.04?
[01:24] <a1zi> ohhhhh
[01:24] <a1zi> i sec thanks
[01:24] <cafuego> arentie: plug it in
[01:25] <arentie> cafuego, i wish it were that easy
[01:25] <vader1102> cafuego, ty I was thinking that but didn't want to be considered a smart butt llol
[01:25] <sorush20> open office 1.1.3 ubuntu is not working what can I do guys...
[01:25] <none_-> you don't have to own it ;)
[01:25] <cafuego> arentie: It is. Really. :-)
[01:26] <cafuego> sorush20: ctrl-alt-f1 should give you a terminal.
[01:26] <none_-> i doubt you want the ftp folder to be owned by a user other than ftp
[01:26] <lips> disasm are you there?
[01:26] <pussfeller> arentie: sometimes you have to mount usbfs manaully
[01:26] <cafuego> arentie: If not, check detection via 'dmesg' and see what it says.
[01:27] <pussfeller> at least I had to to that on an mp3 player I had
[01:27] <a1zi> nouse i dont understand. the current owner is ftp and current group is nogroup.  i need it own it but its not WORKING!
[01:28] <trett> how can I open a port ? or where is the iptables config file for ubuntu ?
[01:28] <none_-> a1zi: chmod 666 /home/ftp
[01:28] <a1zi> what does 666 do?
[01:28] <disasm> rw iirc
[01:28] <selinium_> disasm, Still no joy, gconf.editor allows me to change settings in sudo but not as the user.
[01:28] <none_-> sets read and write permissions to the file
[01:28] <omp342> E: Couldn't find package ncftp  =o
[01:29] <syn-ack> Alzi it sells your soul to the devil!!!1!!!oneoneone
[01:29] <a1zi> none_ it says operations not permitted
[01:29] <none_-> use sudo
[01:29] <pauldaoust> hey, helpful folks. I've got a problem: when I try to run xvncviewer or xtightvncviewer, it complains about a missing font.
[01:29] <disasm> selinium_: you already did chown -R user:user /home/user right?
[01:29] <a1zi> none_ its a folder tho
[01:29] <selinium_> disasm, yep
[01:29] <none_-> doesn't matter, folders are the same as files
[01:29] <pauldaoust> this happens on two fresh installs of Ubuntu, whereas my seasoned, pockmarked home install has no problem whatsoever.
[01:29] <selinium_> disasm, i'll do it again
[01:30] <sun_> hi in nmh when i compose a message it says problem init server, and doesnt deliver?
[01:30] <thoreauputic> none_-: yes it matters - for a folder/ dir you need access ( 7)
[01:30] <thoreauputic> so it is usually 755
[01:30] <pauldaoust> The specific message is "X Error of failed request: BadName (named color or font does not exist)"
[01:30] <thoreauputic> or similar
[01:31] <pauldaoust> Google seems to imply that I'm the third person in the history of mankind to encounter this problem; it's kinda weird
[01:31] <selinium_> disasm, thanks for trying. Off to bed. 00:31 here. CHeers again!
[01:31] <feugan3333> Hi all. Is there anywhere I can get a new sources.list file, if I've broken mine?
[01:31] <none_-> ah, you are right thoreauputic
[01:31] <thoreauputic> !sources
[01:31] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:31] <a1zi> why cant i change the permissions of a FREAKING FOLDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:31] <none_-> chmod 777 /home/ftp
[01:32] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: ^^^
[01:32] <a1zi> LINUS IS CRAZY!!!
[01:32] <Tufek> 4.10
[01:32] <Tufek> warty version is work fine with sata raid0 or no?
[01:32] <feugan3333> Thanks
[01:32] <NoUse> a1zi you know you have to be root to change ownership right?
[01:32] <a1zi> none_ operation not permitted
[01:32] <pauldaoust> feugan3333: it's a pretty simple file to create; just add the Hoary repositories from the above list ubotu sent you
[01:32] <a1zi> nouse OPPS   FUCKING SHIT
[01:32] <none_-> a1zi, quit being dumb
[01:33] <pauldaoust> feugan3333: * above list ubotu sent you a *link* to
[01:33] <Sav^> Do i have to make "mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-*YOURKERNELNAME* 2.6.12-*YOURKERNELNAME*" after a kernel update? cause i do not have that file
[01:33] <a1zi> NONE_ now i feel like a dumbass
[01:33] <a1zi> NONE_ sorry guys
[01:33] <trett> Please, how do I open a port (ie 22) in ubuntu ?
[01:33] <lips> disasm for no apparent reason network started to work after rebooting my system... it seems to be a bug, right?
[01:33] <thoreauputic> !tell alzi about conduct
[01:34] <arentie> I'm having the following problem when trying to install the latest kernel image: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1978
[01:34] <a1zi> thoreauputic sorry.
[01:34] <pauldaoust> trett: it shouldn't be closed in the first place. have you installed a firewall?
[01:34] <a1zi> 1
[01:34] <Sav^> Do i have to make "mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-*YOURKERNELNAME* 2.6.12-*YOURKERNELNAME*" after a kernel update? cause i do not have that file
[01:34] <a1zi> l1
[01:34] <trett> pauldaoust, no I didn't but I tried a web-based port scan, and it says it's closed
[01:34] <thoreauputic> a1zi: it's OK - just cool it a bit :)
[01:34] <none_-> he's a troll
[01:35] <feugan3333> pauldaoust: Well my current sources.list file looks right but I'm getting bad package dependencies messages which I've never gotten before. Anyways that link will do.
[01:35] <pauldaoust> trett: sounds like nothing's running there; that's all. have you installed openssh?
[01:35] <trett> paul, it's on port 1111
[01:35] <pauldaoust> trett: ???
[01:35] <pauldaoust> really?
[01:35] <trett> I edited sshd_config..
[01:35] <pauldaoust> trett: that's excitingly weird. did you do that yourself?
[01:36] <trett> ahhh paul is a troll ?
[01:36] <none_-> another one, it appears
[01:36] <pauldaoust> I'm a troll?
[01:36] <pauldaoust> how so?
[01:36] <none_-> lol
[01:36] <thoreauputic> none_-: take it easy with the accusations
[01:36] <pauldaoust> I'm confused
[01:37] <trett> where is the iptables config file ?
[01:37] <FatDarrel> i need an asguard space ship
[01:37] <FatDarrel> tret /etc/sysconfig
[01:37] <FatDarrel> trett /etc/sysconfig
[01:37] <none_-> iptables -L
[01:37] <pauldaoust> trett: I'm a little confused. what sort of server do you want to have listening on port 22, if sshd is running on port 111?
[01:38] <trett> none, I guess there is nothing in iptables rules.. but the port is blocked
[01:38] <trett> what else could cause that ?
[01:39] <thoreauputic> port 111 is the  portmapper ( see   grep 111 /etc/services )
[01:39] <omp342> E: Couldn't find package ncftp   < i'm trying apt-get install ncftp, but it isn't working ? :)
[01:39] <none_-> trett, ipmasq
[01:39] <trett> thoreauputic, 4 ones..
[01:39] <pauldaoust> thoreauputic: I meant 1111, sorry
[01:39] <thoreauputic> ah
[01:39] <trett> I thought ipmasq wasnt used anymore
[01:39] <a1zi> thanks everyone for helping me.. ill be back
[01:40] <herbi> hi guys
[01:40] <pauldaoust> trett: I'm still not sure why you want port 22 open; it's the ssh port, but if you have sshd listening on port 1111, you don't need 22 open anyway
[01:40] <herbi> i just apt-get install'd openoffice.org2
[01:40] <herbi> and it crashes on launch, but as root it doesnt
[01:40] <trett> thoreauputic, even when it was on 22 it was blocked
[01:40] <herbi> i ran an strace
[01:40] <thoreauputic> ncftp is in universe
[01:40] <herbi> but it doesnt give any meaningful output
[01:40] <vader1102> open office 2 is too much for this old laptop lol
[01:40] <thoreauputic> !info ncftp
[01:40] <ubotu> ncftp: (A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2:3.1.8-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 460 kB, Installed size: 1036 kB
[01:40] <pauldaoust> trett: ahhhh I see, so you already tried it on 22, then you moved it to 1111
[01:41] <herbi> i figure its a permission error but without meaningful error messages, i cant do anything about it
[01:41] <pauldaoust> trett: now I understand!
[01:41] <none_-> trett, lsof -i -n
[01:41] <herbi> any ideas?
[01:41] <pauldaoust> trett: maybe your ISP is blocking port 22?
[01:41] <pauldaoust> trett: that would explain why a web-based portscanner sees it as blocked
[01:41] <zcat[1] > what kind of network connection? NATTed?
[01:41] <herbi> nobody?
[01:41] <pauldaoust> herbi: not sure; I'm using abiword myself ^_^
[01:41] <trett> none: its there (it's still on port 22, I didn't restart the service)
[01:41] <darkheart> herbi If you run it from the console, does it tell you anything before it crashes?
[01:42] <herbi> darkheart: yea
[01:42] <herbi> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::configuration::backend::BackendAccessException'
[01:42] <none_-> is it listening on all interfaces?
[01:42] <pauldaoust> herbi, darkheart: that does sound like a permissions problem indeed
[01:42] <trett> sshd      6844   root    3u  IPv6  10399       TCP *:ssh (LISTEN)
[01:42] <trett> ipv6, I wonder why
[01:42] <darkheart> herbi Okay, that doesn't actually help me much
[01:42] <herbi> darkheart: yeah no shit :P
[01:42] <herbi> but thats all ive got
[01:43] <herbi> and strace doesnt give anything better either
[01:43] <none_-> hmm..
[01:43] <herbi> so im pretty stuck as to why its crtashing
[01:43] <none_-> well, if you configured an interface after you started ssh, that could be the problem
[01:43] <pauldaoust> trett: who's your ISP?
[01:43] <none_-> make sure sshd starts after the interfaces have come up
[01:44] <zcat[1] > OK, i've found in the past I have to apt-get install --reinstall ssh before the ssh server is actually listening. Also many (most?) people's DSL and cable modems are 'nat devices' these days, you have to port forward anything that you want to come through
[01:44] <trett> none_-, well I dont know.. I just installed ssh with synaptic.. did nothing else
[01:45] <trett> none, how can I make sure it starts last ?
[01:45] <zcat[1] > I would expect that it's being blocked by either your router or your ISP.
[01:45] <pauldaoust> trett, zcat: that's my guess too.
[01:45] <none_-> if you have the interfaces configured to come up at boot time, then it will already start first
[01:46] <Bad_Magic> can anyone tell me how to setup daemon startup on boot?
[01:46] <pauldaoust> trett: try ssh <IP_ADDRESS> to see if you can log in using loopback
[01:46] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : router seems more likely - I can't think why an ISP would block ssh
[01:46] <zcat[1] > I can; some isp's are just asshats
[01:46] <pauldaoust> trett: then try your IP address
[01:46] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : :)
[01:46] <zcat[1] > but router is most likely
[01:46] <trett> ok I will try to restart sshd, then hopefully they dont block port 1111
[01:46] <none_-> try a higher port
[01:47] <trett> Ill try 2335
[01:47] <none_-> like, 39733
[01:47] <trett> ok
[01:47] <zcat[1] > and if it's your router, you can try all 65535 ports and none will be working.  I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:52] <disasm> trett: what ip?
[01:52] <zblach> !add
[01:52] <ubotu> it has been said that add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets
[01:52] <Bad_Magic> also, how do i set daemons (like ddclient and openssh) to start on boot?
[01:52] <Bad_Magic> <--- noob
[01:52] <thoreauputic> Bad_Magic: they start by default
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> ssh starts automatically
[01:52] <pauldaoust> disasm: it infurates me. the startup sound starts fine (so esd isn't the problem), and then a second-and-a-half later, it slows down again. it sounds like it's trying to feed all the sound in the buffer at 44100, and the buffer is playing it at 11000, no downsampling. it's all just sloooow
[01:53] <Bad_Magic> how about ddclient?
[01:53] <zblach> ubotu, <keyword> is <description description description>
[01:53] <ubotu> zblach: okay
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> don't know offhand
[01:53] <pauldaoust> disasm: what I did at one point was ssh into that computer, ran top and filtered so I could only see that user, and then watched while it booted up... but I couldn't see any spurious programs
[01:53] <Bad_Magic> it can run as daemon using hte command line ddclient -daemon=time
[01:53] <disasm> pauldaoust: did you try a different machine, or is it only happening on one?
[01:53] <Bad_Magic> i just dont know where to put that for startup
[01:53] <pauldaoust> disasm: so it appears to be a GNOME thingy
[01:53] <trett> IP: <IP_ADDRESS> port 33333
[01:53] <zcat[1] > ubotu, tell me about <keyword>
[01:53] <pauldaoust> disasm: every machine that has the same hardware
[01:53] <zblach> !<keyword>
[01:53] <ubotu> it has been said that <keyword> is <description description description>
[01:53] <zcat[1] > *ubotu* telling yourself: somebody said <keyword> was <description description
[01:53] <zcat[1] >         description><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:53] <trett> with lsof it still says ipv6
[01:54] <disasm> pauldaoust: hmmm...
[01:54] <zcat[1] > brb
[01:54] <disasm> pauldaoust: when are you going live?
[01:54] <zblach> ubotu, you're the only reason i'm in this channel
[01:54] <ubotu> zblach: Are you on ritalin?
[01:54] <pauldaoust> earlier today ^_^
[01:54] <Madpilot> !forget <keyword>
[01:54] <ubotu> Madpilot: i forgot <keyword>
[01:54] <pauldaoust> disasm: earlier today ^_^
[01:54] <pauldaoust> disasm: fortunately sound is not a pressing issue yet
[01:54] <pauldaoust> disasm: the students enjoyed their Flash games sans-sound
[01:55] <none_-> 33333/tcp filtered unknown
[01:55] <none_-> all your ports are like that
[01:55] <etzerd> Hello all
[01:55] <zblach> !ayb
[01:55] <ubotu> zblach: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:55] <Xorlev> !ritalin
[01:56] <Xorlev> Hahh
[01:56] <Xorlev> ubotu I heard ritalin is Methylphenidate is a medication prescribed for individuals (usually children) who have attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), which consists of a persistent pattern of abnormally high levels of activity, impulsivity, and/or inattention that is more frequently displayed and more severe than is typically observed in individuals with comparable levels of development.
[01:56] <ubotu> Xorlev: what are you talking about?
[01:56] <zblach> lol
[01:56] <etzerd> can anyone tell me how to install what's the command to install KDE?
[01:56] <zblach> Xorlev, i tried that yesterday
[01:56] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[01:56] <Xorlev> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:56] <zblach> and it got deleted
[01:56] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[01:56] <Madpilot> !msg the bot
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> !play
[01:56] <ubotu> All work and no play. Please don't play with me in the channel; experiment with me in /msg
[01:56] <Bad_Magic> can anyone tell me where to put the command line startup of a daemon so it boots at startup?
[01:56] <pauldaoust> disasm: mind you, Flash is one of the only proggies in which sound actually works (Java being the other one). ain't that bass-ackwards?
[01:56] <etzerd> Thank you Xorlev
[01:56] <none_->  /etc/init.d/
[01:57] <Bad_Magic> thank you!
[01:57] <none_-> Bad_Magic: make sure the file is executable
[01:57] <disasm> pauldaoust: what did you end up using for authentication?
[01:57] <Xorlev> none, my bootup scripts are never run from /etc/init.d on boot o.o
[01:57] <none_-> are they executables?
[01:57] <pauldaoust> disasm: local auth; I'm going to build the network in steps. Once I get slapd working, I'll have LDAP authentication
[01:57] <Bad_Magic> none_-: its ddclient
[01:57] <pauldaoust> trett: just sitting there doing nothing
[01:58] <pauldaoust> trett: must be blocked
[01:58] <Xorlev> Yeah none, I can run it from command line, but doesn't at boot.
[01:58] <zblach> bass-ackwards?
[01:58] <disasm> pauldaoust: ok, so currently they are all just authing themselves
[01:58] <tear> OK, I downloaded and installed jre manually since firefoc couldn't autoinstall it, but firefox still sais that it's missing. any tips?
[01:58] <pauldaoust> zblach: yep, bass-ackwards
[01:58] <pauldaoust> disasm: pretty much
[01:58] <thoreauputic> !tell tear about java
[01:58] <disasm> pauldaoust: trett left ;-)
[01:58] <pauldaoust> disasm: I suppose if I wanted a really inelegant solution, I could mirror /etc/passwd every time the computers start up. BAD idea, if you ask me :)
[01:59] <disasm> pauldaoust: yeah
[01:59] <pauldaoust> disasm: oh... missed that :-D
[01:59] <zblach> hrm...
[01:59] <z|bandito> hello
[01:59] <disasm> pauldaoust: tab completion ;-)
[01:59] <zblach> ubotu, tell me about ubotu
[01:59] <zblach> ubotu, recursion is tell ubotu about recursion
[01:59] <ubotu> okay, zblach
[01:59] <pauldaoust> disasm: so THAT's why I had to type in his name manually! I thought, "what the hell? tab completion isn't working anymore?"
[01:59] <disasm> zblach: your bad ;-)
[01:59] <caonex> Anybody here with a zv6000 or a laptop with amd64?
[02:00] <pauldaoust> zblach, you're mean. didn't you ever see that one episode of Star Trek where they did that to the Borg?
[02:00] <zblach> pauldaoust, nope, i haven't
[02:00] <pauldaoust> ubotu: what is recursion?
[02:00] <ubotu> pauldaoust: I think you lost me on that one
[02:00] <zblach> !recursion
[02:00] <ubotu> hmm... recursion is tell ubotu about recursion
[02:00] <pauldaoust> zblach: well, it was something like that. some sort of algorithm that would bring their cybernetic brains to a screeching crash
[02:01] <disasm> zblach: missing a ! i think
[02:01] <disasm> !tell uboto about recursion
[02:01] <zblach> not necessary. i.e.
[02:01] <zblach> ubotu, tell disasm about recursion
[02:01] <thoreauputic> tell ubotu about recursion
[02:01] <thoreauputic> ubotu Isn't that a bit silly?
[02:01] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, thoreauputic
[02:02] <thoreauputic> you see, ubotu knows about recursion
[02:02] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:02] <disasm> zblach: if your trying to make it go recursively, then you need a !tell and i have a feeling it's disabled to allow !tell commands in a command
[02:02] <pauldaoust> disasm: thanks for asking about my computer problems, at any rate (even if they are the most unsolveable problems in the history of the universe)
[02:02] <z|bandito> how can i determine the audio chipset ?
[02:03] <tear> thoreauputic, thanks, but the problem is, I can't find "sun-j2re1.5" and I have the repository
[02:03] <disasm> pauldaoust: if you were in the area, i'd help you tackle them, but i think you have to be there to be able to troubleshoot those ;-)
[02:03] <zblach> disasm, i'm sure they disabled it. it was a fun idea tho'
[02:03] <pauldaoust> bandito: if it's a relatively new computer (four years young) you type in 'lspci' and look for mention of audio or sound in the output of that command.
[02:03] <darkheart> tear Don't forget to run 'sudo apt-get update' after updating sources.list
[02:03] <disasm> tear: are you installing java?
[02:03] <pauldaoust> disasm: the newest problem I've created for myself is that, when I run xvncviewer in listen mode, it complains about missing fonts 9_9
[02:03] <tear> disasm, yep
[02:03] <thoreauputic> zblach: if you actually succeeded in making ubotu do what you seem to  trying, I guess you wouldn't be likely to be allowed back in the channel :)
[02:03] <pauldaoust> once again, a problem that only one or two people have ever run into, and they never found the solution.
[02:03] <Madpilot> tear: the j2re is in hoary-extras - see the bottom of the AddingRepositories wiki page
[02:04] <dalamar> if the breezy live cd works pretty flawless for me, can I expect major hiccups from a dist-upgrade or would it be fairly minor things?
[02:04] <zblach> thoreauputic, it'd almost be worth it
[02:04] <thoreauputic> zblach: :)
[02:04] <pauldaoust> dalamar: I'd be careful still
[02:04] <z|bandito> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA AC'97 Audio (rev 02)
[02:04] <pauldaoust> dalamar: you'll have to really want to live on the bleeding edge
[02:04] <z|bandito> is this a supported chipset?  I get garbled sound...
[02:04] <none_-> dalamar, it messed my system up completely
[02:04] <pauldaoust> z|bandito: what sort of garbled?
[02:04] <disasm> tear, apt-get install java-package, download a java bin, and run fakeroot make-jpkg some_java.bin then sudo dpkg -i resulting_package.deb
[02:05] <dalamar> well gfx, sound and internet are all working out of the box
[02:05] <z|bandito> it used to do the gnome sounds ok, but not anything like CDDA or netradio... i tried switching to alsa from esd, but now it'sjust all garbled
[02:05] <pauldaoust> z|bandito: Linux supports it, using the snd_intel82xx driver
[02:05] <ksmurf> hello all.  Anyone know anything about .ICEauthority...... My gnome session dies in 1-2 secs because it can't find it so It won't kick me into gnome.  I can get into gnome in recovery mode but I don't know anythig bout it
[02:05] <neurondev> hey guys, I have issues setting up a Realtek based Ethernet Card. I need to setup dhcp3-server on it. However I don't think Ubuntu is even detecting the card correctly.
[02:05] <z|bandito> i hear it trying, but there is a lot of noise, and i'm not sure if it's playing in realtime..
[02:05] <disasm> dalamar: not anyones fault but yours if your system doesn't start anymore ;-)
[02:05] <Madpilot> ksmurf: it dumps you back to a command line, right?
[02:06] <pauldaoust> z|bandito: does it sound slow and drawn-out?
[02:06] <z|bandito> yeah i think so
[02:06] <z|bandito> but it's very noisy so it\'s hard to be sure
[02:06] <ksmurf> Madpilot no to GDM
[02:06] <pauldaoust> z|bandito: hm, so it's not just crazy static then
[02:06] <omp342> do i just type 'apt-get update' to update list of packages?
[02:06] <pauldaoust> z|bandito: can you detect actual notes, or is it just PFFFFFSHHFHKFHSHHHFHFFFFFFFF
[02:06] <dalamar> disasm, yeah I understand but some of the programs im needing to run require a newer version of libc then hoary has and with the breezy preview coming out soon I'm guessing its fairly close
[02:07] <pauldaoust> z|bandito: (like a radio)?
[02:07] <thoreauputic> omp342: yes, with sudo of course
[02:07] <z|bandito> not really sure to be honest ; gnome sounds seem realtime but static-y.  cdda sounds plain wrong...
[02:07] <none_-> dalamar, you might want to switch to debian
[02:07] <dalamar> *shudder*
[02:07] <disasm> dalamar: i tried the installer the other day, and i couldn't even run a compiled binary i built for class that was in my home directory
[02:07] <Madpilot> ksmurf: you probably need to chown .ICEauthority
[02:07] <pauldaoust> z|bandito: oh, maybe you have the volume levels too high? ALSA tends to have that problem with sound cards. you should have PCM, Master, and CD at about three quarters
[02:07] <z|bandito> like gnome UI sounds i can tell it's trying to do correctly, but it's very noisy, but even when it was working OK using ESD the CDDA and netradio were still not working
[02:08] <disasm> dalamar: it gave an error if i did ./any_binary
[02:08] <none_-> z|bandito, i had the same problem on gentoo
[02:08] <CookedGryphon> Yah! i love ubuntu again, got my linmodem installed and working on my laptop
[02:08] <z|bandito> when i try alsa in multimedia system selector it gives an error when i click test..
[02:08] <z|bandito> failed to construct pipeline to alsa
[02:08] <dalamar> disasm, yikes, thats pretty major
[02:08] <pauldaoust> z|bandito: oh
[02:08] <pauldaoust> z|bandito: that's unusual
[02:08] <neurondev> hey guys, I have issues setting up a Realtek based Ethernet Card. I need to setup dhcp3-server on it. However I don't think Ubuntu is even detecting the card correctly. Any ideas? Also Firefox doesn't work. Can't load a single webpage. (But I can do IRC, and download package updates!)
[02:09] <z|bandito> yeah.. gnome UI sounds were OK but CDDA was screwy,,, i'll try setting back to ESD
[02:09] <zblach> pauldaoust, i have the same problem, except with all pipelines
[02:09] <Bad_Magic> ps
[02:09] <trett> this sshd still uses ipv6.....
[02:09] <codenut> how do you activate sshd?
[02:10] <pauldaoust> neurondev: if you type in 'lspci | grep -i ether' does it mention anything?
[02:10] <neurondev> paldaoust: let me try that
[02:10] <none_-> codenut, install t he package
[02:10] <trett> codenut, automatically with the /etc/init.d/ssh
[02:10] <pauldaoust> codenut: once you install the OpenSSH server package, it'll run automatically
[02:10] <neurondev> pauldaoust: let me try that
[02:10] <codenut> THanks
[02:10] <dalamar> is there anyway to upgrade to gnome 2.12 in hoary?
[02:10] <HrdwrBoB> dalamar: yes
[02:10] <HrdwrBoB> dalamar: wait for breezy
[02:10] <Bad_Magic> lol
[02:10] <dalamar> bleh
[02:11] <dalamar> notice the 'in hoary'
[02:11] <HrdwrBoB> dalamar: patience is the virtue of princes
[02:11] <ksmurf> Madpilot I'm doing that right now
[02:11] <HrdwrBoB> or was that punctuality?
[02:11] <anomaly> HrdwrBoB and the stockpile of none.
[02:11] <Bad_Magic> alright, now can anyone tell me how to make gnome control my soundcard level? (it shows the little box moving back and forth but it doesnt change the soundlevel)
[02:11] <neurondev> pauldaoust: yep I get both my cards showing up, 1 is nvidia Ethernet Controller, the other is RTL-8139/8139C card
[02:12] <CookedGryphon> mine shows the little box then doesn't show the level moving up and down :(
[02:12] <CookedGryphon>  i can't seem to change the volume at all
[02:12] <zblach> ubotu, forget recursion
[02:12] <ubotu> zblach: i forgot recursion
[02:12] <CookedGryphon> and there is just a weird custom thing in the multimedia selector
[02:12] <pauldaoust> CookedGryphon: what motherboard chipset do you have, if you know?
[02:12] <zblach> ubotu, rcsn1 is tell ubout about rcsn2
[02:12] <ubotu> zblach: okay
[02:12] <CookedGryphon> emm, think it could be SiS
[02:12] <neurondev> pauldaoust: I guess the cards are detected, what confuses me is ifconfig returns eth0,eth1,sit0 what is sit0? I know the Nvidia ethernet card is on eth0.
[02:13] <zblach> ubotu, rcsn1 is tell ubotu about rcsn2
[02:13] <ubotu> ...but rcsn1 is already something else...
[02:13] <zblach> ubotu, forget rcsn1
[02:13] <ubotu> zblach: i forgot rcsn1
[02:13] <zblach> ubotu, rcsn1 is tell ubotu about rcsn2
[02:13] <dalamar> october ... 13th ... seems so long awaaaay ;/
[02:15] <zblach> ubotu, rcsn2 is tell ubotu about rcsn1
[02:15] <ubotu> zblach: okay
[02:15] <zblach> !rcsn1
[02:15] <ubotu> zblach: I don't know
[02:15] <neurondev> pauldaoust: eth0 is also connected to my DSL modem.
[02:15] <ksmurf> Madpilot that did it.... Thanks
[02:15] <zblach> ubotu, tell me about rcsn1
[02:15] <pauldaoust> neurondev: ha, I wondered about that for a while too. sit0 is a IPv6-over-IPv4 virtual tunnel thingy
[02:15] <CookedGryphon> pauldaoust, SiS i'm pretty sure, does that tell you anything?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> zblach: stop *now* please
[02:15] <Cashel> howdies
[02:15] <ksmurf> ANy idea why it would have changed permissions?
[02:15] <zblach> thoreauputic, okay. sorry
[02:15] <neurondev> pauldaoust: ok, so the RTL card is eth1?
[02:15] <Madpilot> ksmurf: no problem. YOu learn more about things when they break than when they work, hey?
[02:15] <neurondev> pauldaoust: would assume it is.
[02:15] <pauldaoust> neurondev: probably.
[02:15] <ksmurf> Madpiolet that's why I'm using breezy.... rofl
[02:15] <none_-> Bad_Magic: i forgot the files in rc2.d/ have to start with an S
[02:15] <Bad_Magic> alright, now can anyone tell me how to make gnome control my soundcard level? (it shows the little box moving back and forth but it doesnt change the soundlevel)... the problem is its changing alsa master volume and needs to be changing the headphone volume... anyone? =x
[02:15] <Cashel> Anyone know how to pull up a history of packages installed?
[02:15] <Bad_Magic> ack
[02:15] <Bad_Magic> k
[02:15] <pauldaoust> CookedGryphon: hm. if it were a VIA, they make some pretty horrid sound chips. Mine didn't have any hardware volume control; I guess the Windows driver manages volume. So I eventually installed a SoundBlaster Live that I had kicking around.
[02:15] <none_-> S99ddclient
[02:15] <neurondev> pauldaoust: Ok first thing is I tried bringing up dhcpd3 on eth1, and it says 'No subnet declaration for eth1 (<IP_ADDRESS>)'
[02:15] <b3nd3r> hi
[02:15] <none_-> is what someone else is using
[02:15] <ksmurf> cashel U use synaptic?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> Cashel: dpkg -l | less
[02:15] <Cashel> ksmurf, yes
[02:15] <Cashel> thoreauputic, thanks :)
[02:15] <neurondev> pauldaoust: ... and 'Not configured to listen on any interfaces'. How can I fix that?
[02:15] <b3nd3r> im having issues with my zv6000 hp laptop... the timer issue .. any one able to assist me?
[02:16] <Cashel> thoreauputic, oh, I meant as in the last installed stuff... a history... any such creature?
[02:16] <pauldaoust> neurondev: weird. so network autodetect doesn't work, and that's why you're using dhcpcd?
[02:16] <dpi> wow what a mess o people on this channel....finnaly realized why ubuntu is on top of distrowatch
[02:16] <pauldaoust> neurondev: wait. you're using dhcpd or dhcpcd?
[02:16] <trett> why would sshd use ipv6 by default ? I use the default auto-start from /etc/init.d/ssh
[02:16] <thoreauputic> Cashel: ah, I see - don't know, sorry
[02:16] <Xorlev> dpi: Ubuntu is a wonderful distro, not to mention prettyful =)
[02:16] <Concord_Dawn> How can I find the processor speed in Linux?
[02:16] <Xorlev> I love debian based distros.
[02:17] <CookedGryphon> I have to insert some kernel modules and then run a script to get my winmodem to work, should i put those in the startup script, or is that too messy? is there an easier way to do it
[02:17] <zblach> yup. its my first linux introduction, and i'm loving it
[02:17] <b3nd3r> any one know how to upgrade from default install of ubuntu64 2.6.10-5 to 2.6.12 or higher? besides a complete kernel recompile?
[02:17] <dpi> type echo $MACHTYPE
[02:17] <Fred|Fr3d> how do i find out the cpu speed from ssh?
[02:17] <Cashel> thoreauputic, no wories thanks for trying :) would you happen to know if dpkg saves the debs? I could go by date if so.. ?
[02:17] <Xorlev> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:17] <Concord_Dawn> or Ubuntu, if there's a UBuntu specific way
[02:17] <Concord_Dawn> heh
[02:17] <Bad_Magic> anyone know how to change the keyboard shortcut based soundlevel changer (ie which channels volume it changes)
[02:17] <neurondev> pauldaoust: 'dhcpcd' elicits an error.
[02:17] <Xorlev> /proc/cpuinfo is a linux standard.
[02:17] <Madpilot> Xorlev: "prettyful" - is that even a word? ;)
[02:17] <nior> any body help me! how could i configure my ubuntu using multiple ip address using lone interface?
[02:17] <thoreauputic> Cashel: have a look in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:17] <none_-> trett: try sshd -4
[02:17] <Cashel> thanks again thoreauputic
[02:18] <Xorlev> Madpilot: No, its the botching of a real word and a suffix.
[02:18] <pauldaoust> CookedGryphon: you can add them to /etc/modules
[02:18] <thoreauputic> Cashel: no worries :)
[02:18] <b3nd3r> nior wtf are you talking about.. you cant do that.
[02:18] <Cashel> ahhh and there they are! perfect
[02:18] <Fred|Fr3d> thanks Xorlev :-D
[02:18] <Xorlev> Fred|Fr3d: np =)
[02:18] <trett> none, sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[02:18] <ksmurf> yeah .... Madpilot saved my puter........
[02:18] <neurondev> pauldaoust: dhcpd3 is a dhcp server thats what I use.
[02:18] <pauldaoust> neurondev: 'cuz dhcpd3 (the one without the extra 'c') is a DHCP server, for when you want other machines to get their IP addresses from you
[02:19] <CookedGryphon> pauldaoust, thanks
[02:19] <neurondev> pauldaoust: that is what I want. I have another PC wired to eth1
[02:19] <pauldaoust> neurondev: oh, so you're aware of that. sounds like your setup is a lot more complex than I'm used to...
[02:19] <none_-> trett: $(which sshd) -4
[02:19] <rob_p> nior:  Yes!  You CAN do that!  IP address aliases are fairly easy to set up.
[02:19] <neurondev> pauldaoust: I want Ubuntu to hand out IP addresses on eth1. This means I need a dhcp server running on eth1.
[02:20] <trett> none, looked like /usr/sbin/sshd -4 worked
[02:20] <Seveas> neurondev, then make it listen on eth1 :)
[02:20] <Madpilot> ksmurf: I've had Ubuntu eat my .ICEauthority file before, that's the only reason I know the trick!
[02:20] <pauldaoust> neurondev: but I think it's significant that dhcpd3 sez it's not configured to listen on any interfaces. you might want to research that... check out the server's config files... mind you, if you can't even get eth0 up, it's pointless, unless you want a cozy little local network, I guess ;)
[02:20] <trett> none, can I put that in the init file in /etc/init.d/ssh
[02:20] <nior> what file do i need to change or add?
[02:20] <pauldaoust> CookedGryphon: no prob!
[02:20] <Bad_Magic> anyone know how to change the keyboard shortcut based soundlevel changer (ie which channels volume it changes) or how to link channels in alsa
[02:20] <ksmurf>  Madpilot ever figure out why?
[02:21] <neurondev> seveas: how do I do that... I tried dhcp3 eth1, and it says no subnet declaration for eth1
[02:21] <none_-> trett: you'd have to look through the file to find the start function
[02:21] <rob_p> nior:  You will probably need to write a small script to do it.  Either that or just manually enter the commands every time you want it set up.
[02:21] <none_-> add it to the command
[02:21] <Madpilot> ksmurf: no, but it's only happened once since I replaced my motherboard - which was borked and causing all sorts of problems...
[02:21] <pauldaoust> Bad_Magic: volume control keybindings is easy. you go System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts, and scroll down to the 'Sound' category
[02:21] <CookedGryphon> pauldaoust, and where do i put the run the script that starts it off? i'm worried it may freeze the system booting, cos when i run it in terminal it stays running if u know what i mean, even after i put & on the end...
[02:21] <neurondev> pauldaoust: eth0 is up. I just cant use Firefox. I am using eth0 right now with a dsl modem to chat w/ you guys
[02:22] <nior> is there any website you know where i could find some howtos?
[02:22] <azahid> question for somebody who knows whats going on in Linux world and care to answer: Is Gnome failing in the competition with KDE. I really like Gnome want it to be succesful. Any place where I can look for some good information?
[02:22] <neurondev> I guess Ubuntu's net detection stuff isn't that robust. I mean if firefox comes up, and you cant open yahoo.com right away...
[02:22] <ksmurf>  Madpilot ah that explains it...... I had a Complete freeze...... I think I have a drive going
[02:22] <pauldaoust> CookedGryphon: crap. you need to run a whole script? okay, add the name of the script to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh -- you'll need to give the full path of your script, though, because $PATH isn't declared at that point when your system boots up.
[02:22] <Bad_Magic> pauldaoust: i figured that out... it moves the bar up and down... but it changes alsa's "main" tab and for some reason my sound is really mapped to "headphone"
[02:23] <trett> none, it's on ipv4 now, but I can't even connect if I try: ssh <IP_ADDRESS> (I changed it back to port 22)
[02:23] <Madpilot> ksmurf: ouch. got everything on it backed up?
[02:23] <pauldaoust> Bad_Magic: ?!??!? sorry, man, that's way over my head. I'd look into configuring asound.conf though... don't have much experience there
[02:23] <none_-> ok well, it's most likely your ISP or your modem
[02:23] <rob_p> nior:  I could maybe send you a script or something.  I run IP address aliases on both of my servers and I use a script to accomplish it.  Off hand, I don't know other than to just search google.
[02:23] <Bad_Magic> asound.conf is located where?
[02:24] <trett> none, I will try again port 33333, brb
[02:24] <pauldaoust> Bad_Magic: /etc/asound.conf ... it probably won't exist yet though
[02:24] <CookedGryphon> pauldaoust, thanks again, just gna reboot n try it out
[02:24] <pauldaoust> Bad_Magic: asound.conf generally doesn't exist until you create it for special reasons, like this
[02:25] <Bad_Magic> yay
[02:25] <Bad_Magic> =\
[02:25] <Kyral> Okay, thats odd
[02:25] <Kyral> The system threw a shutdown by itself..
[02:25] <pauldaoust> CookedGryphon: do you ahve to run the script and then install the modules, or does the order not matter?
[02:25] <ksmurf> Madpilot..... yeah.  Learned that last time.... 290 GB info and apps gone... and 3 boards.   It was then I dropped doze and came to the light side;>
[02:25] <Kyral> and none of the logs are pointing to suspcious activity
[02:25] <pauldaoust> CookedGryphon: or does the script actually install the modules itself?
[02:25] <nior> thanks in advance rob_p, can you send it to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:25] <CookedGryphon> pauldaoust, i have to insert the moduil;es then run the script
[02:26] <none_-> trett: it won't make a difference; all your ports are filtered
[02:26] <CookedGryphon> its the slmodem
[02:26] <dbernar1> Yay, I learned how to use screen!
[02:26] <dbernar1> anyhow...later.
[02:26] <pauldaoust> CookedGryphon: gotcha. yeah, I think that if you list the modules in /etc/modules and then add the script to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh, it should do it in the right order.
[02:26] <CookedGryphon> okay, thanks,i'll try it now
[02:26] <rob_p> nior:  Sure thing!  Give me an hour or so as I can't do it at the moment...
[02:27] <CookedGryphon> and then go to bed cos its late n i'm tired n its taken me hours to get to this stage
[02:27] <pauldaoust> CookedGryphon: righto. good luck!
[02:27] <omp342> E: Couldn't find package ncftp   < what should i do?
[02:27] <Orborde-dinner> What does the BurnFree in GnomeBaker do?
[02:27] <l0rdvad3r> i already install ubuntu but it stop.. "start hotplug system" what shld i do??
[02:28] <thoreauputic> omp342: it's in universe - ypur sources must be wrong
[02:28] <zblach> anyone here resolve sound problems?
[02:28] <trett> none, must be the modem, because I have the same ISP and I can open ports
[02:28] <pauldaoust> Orborde-dinner: that takes advantage of your drive's BurnFree feature, which I think helps prevent buffer underrounds or something.
[02:28] <Kyral> Got a quick question about my startup sequence
[02:28] <rellik> I've added a new user to the system but I cannot log into ftp with this new user (from localhost even).  I can log in just fine with an existing user..  is there some file somewhere I'm missing?  the user can log in just fine locally to a shell, but not to ftp
[02:28] <pauldaoust> Orborde-dinner: * meant to say buffer underruns, not underrounds
[02:28] <SPERMITE> if i wanna install a game with cedega through the cdrom how should i do it ?
[02:29] <omp342> thoreauputic: i never changed any sources after installing ubuntu
[02:29] <thoreauputic> SPERMITE: read the instructions?
[02:29] <thoreauputic> omp342: that's your problem :)
[02:29] <thoreauputic> !tell omp342 about repos
[02:29] <Orborde-dinner> pauldaoust: Thanks.
[02:29] <pauldaoust> Orborde-dinner: no prob!
[02:29] <zblach> none of the sound pipelines work
[02:30] <thoreauputic> omp342: got ubotu 's /msg ?
[02:30] <l0rdvad3r> i already install ubuntu but it stop.. "start hotplug system" <--- what shld i do??
[02:30] <omp342> thoreautupic: yep
[02:30] <vader1102> l0rdvad3r, mine does it sometimes as well, I just restart and it gets past it
[02:31] <l0rdvad3r> vader1102, i already did serveral time still the same result ?? :(
[02:31] <pauldaoust> does anyone have experience with VNC in listen mode? or anything that would allow an instructor to press a button and have all the screens in a computer lab show the instructor's screen (after the IT guy -- that's me -- wrote a script to glue everything together)?
[02:32] <vader1102> hmmmmmmmm, someone else will have to help you....it used to happen all of the time but it is somewhat better now
[02:32] <pauldaoust> I just need a finger to point me in the right direction.
[02:32] <trett> none, but I wonder why it goes through the modem when I use the local address <IP_ADDRESS>...
[02:32] <h17m4n> k I installed fglrx-control
[02:32] <tear> none of the help about java plugin worked
[02:32] <h17m4n> how do I start it?
[02:32] <l0rdvad3r> hmm can anyone help me.. with ubuntu ??
[02:32] <pauldaoust> trett: your machine is on crack; sorry to say :)
[02:32] <thoreauputic> !ask
[02:33] <zblach> l0rdvad3r, you may be in the wrong channel for that
[02:33] <vader1102> thoreauputic,  can you help l0rdvad3r ?
[02:33] <Xorlev> Hmm...
[02:33] <Xorlev> !add RTFM Acronym of a derogatory method of stating "Read the Manual"
[02:33] <ubotu> Xorlev: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[02:33] <Xorlev> Meh
[02:33] <Xorlev> >_>
[02:33] <l0rdvad3r> zblach, y did u say so.. im in ubuntu right..
[02:33] <zblach> ubotu, RTFM is an acronym meaning 'read the friendly manual'
[02:33] <ubotu> ...but rtfm is already something else...
[02:33] <thoreauputic> l0rdvad3r: just ask a specific question - if someone can help they will
[02:33] <HrdwrBoB> !rtfm
[02:34] <ubotu> somebody said rtfm was Read The "Fine" Manual
[02:34] <h17m4n> Question: How do I run fglrx-control from terminal?
[02:34] <zblach> i like 'friendly' more
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> rtfm is should not be used
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> it's not in accordance with the CoC
[02:34] <dabaR> HrdwrBoB: not true.
[02:34] <thoreauputic> HrdwrBoB: indeed not :)
[02:34] <Xorlev> But RTFM is useful in some cases,
[02:34] <l0rdvad3r> thoreauputic, it stop in "start hotplug system" ??
[02:34] <dabaR> just say it in a nice way.
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> yes.
[02:34] <Talim> hello hello
[02:35] <HrdwrBoB> so, RTFM is not useful
[02:35] <thoreauputic> dabaR: pointing someone to the manual is OK - rtfm isn't
[02:35] <pauldaoust> l0rdvad3r: sounds like you've got some exotic hardware.
[02:35] <Talim> I'm very much so a newbie
[02:35] <HrdwrBoB> saying "you can read the manual here" is fine, "rtfm" is not
[02:35] <thoreauputic> right
[02:35] <Talim> I'm almost ready to switch over
[02:35] <zblach> proposal: prtm - please read the manual
[02:35] <Talim> but i'm worried about my wireless
[02:35] <Xorlev> prtm...hmmm
[02:35] <zblach> Talim, tell me about your wirelessness
[02:36] <l0rdvad3r> pauldaoust, what do u mean? all my pc is new.. and i install other os it work just fin..
[02:36] <Xorlev> I like it zblach.
[02:36] <tear> anyone might know why I get "Verifying archive integrity...Error in check sums<PHONE_NUMBER> 273882024" when installing java support?
[02:36] <Talim> I'm not sure if my laptop's built in wireless is gonna work when i switch over
[02:36] <zip> does ubuntu come with a program to connect to windows file sharing?
[02:36] <zblach> zip, called samba, and its iffy
[02:36] <pauldaoust> l0rdvad3r: I mean that Ubuntu might just be having problems with your hardware. what sort of other operating systems did you install?
[02:36] <thoreauputic> !tell l0rdvad3r about ask
[02:37] <Xorlev> zip: Samba
[02:37] <zip> zblach: yes, but how do i log into a server with it?
[02:37] <pauldaoust> zip: yep, it's all built-in. Works great connecting Ubuntu machines to each other, but it can't seem to talk properly with a WinXP machine.
[02:37] <h17m4n> !fglrx
[02:37] <ubotu> fglrx is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:37] <zblach> zip, unknown. join #samba
[02:37] <l0rdvad3r> pauldaoust, first time to use linux on my machine.
[02:37] <pauldaoust> zip: Generally it's as simple as Places > Network Servers
[02:37] <zblach> pauldaoust, you've noticed that too, eh?
[02:37] <pauldaoust> zblach: it's beastly
[02:37] <drummer87> hi all, what does this mean?: FATAL: Error inserting lirc_serial (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/misc/lirc_serial.ko): Device or resource busy
[02:37] <Talim> thanks :)
[02:37] <zip> pauldaoust: places?? i'm afraid there is no Places menu in Xfce
[02:37] <zblach> pauldaoust, *nods muchly*
[02:37] <pauldaoust> zip: oop
[02:37] <pauldaoust> :D
[02:38] <zip> i think Places is wind0ze
[02:38] <pauldaoust> zip: smbconnect is the command you need to use, but I haven't used it very often
[02:38] <vader1102> thoreauputic, if I may, my system does it too during the boot of my pc, it hangs on starting hotplug subsystem and he wants to know what he can do about it
[02:38] <zblach> zip, its pretty conveniant tho'
[02:38] <pauldaoust> zip: and you specify the address //servername/share instead of \\servername\share
[02:38] <zip> hmmm
[02:38] <zip> no smbconnect
[02:38] <zblach> smbclient
[02:38] <zip> and i have all the samba packages installed
[02:38] <pauldaoust> zip: a simple way to do things is to just go smbmount //servername/share /mnt/windowsshare
[02:38] <l0rdvad3r> pauldaoust, are there any reqrment. b4 i used ubuntu.. ?? :(
[02:38] <Talim> I think i'm gonna do it
[02:38] <zblach> Talim, do it!
[02:38] <pauldaoust> zip: see how seldom I use it? ^_^
[02:39] <zip> k
[02:39] <zblach> zip, the command is 'smbclient'
[02:39] <thoreauputic> vader1102: OK that's a bit clearer - I don't have an answer personally but maybe someone can help
[02:39] <Xorlev> Talim: Switching to Linux?
[02:39] <Talim> yes
[02:39] <Xorlev> Good man!
[02:39] <vader1102> thoreauputic,  ty
[02:39] <zblach> smbclient -L "name"
[02:39] <Xorlev> I'll tell you it made things ALOT easier for me.
[02:39] <zblach> Talim, its a big step.
[02:39] <zip> where Name is?
[02:39] <zip> address?
[02:39] <zblach> I've found it to be a hassle
[02:39] <pauldaoust> l0rdvad3r: I'd just check out all your hardware (check your manuals; you'll want to know your motherboard chipset and your video card chipset) and then do a bit of searching
[02:39] <shadeofgrey> okay guys i need help installing k3b for burning
[02:39] <zip> or workgroup
[02:39] <zblach> zip, name or IP address
[02:39] <Talim> i'm just gonna ftp all my files over to my pc so i dont lose them and go ahead with it
[02:39] <zblach> like 'computer name'
[02:39] <Xorlev> It is a big step, but once you get the hang of it, you'll never want to go back.
[02:39] <Talim> well, my desktop pc
[02:39] <Bad_Magic> anyone know how to change the channel that is changed with the volume up/down keyboard shortcuts in gnome?
[02:40] <shadeofgrey> i installed k3b and k3blibs and cdrdao -- what else do i need?  kdebase?
[02:40] <zblach> 'cept for things that like windows. like flash and games
[02:40] <pauldaoust> l0rdvad3r: I mean, just check to see that Linux works, and works well, on your hardware.
[02:40] <dreamie> i have a problem
[02:40] <Talim> I got flash working last time I used linux
[02:40] <shadeofgrey> it'll run in a terminal as is, but it outputs tons of errolrs and woint place any icons for launching k3b from apps menu
[02:40] <dreamie> my printer doesnt print
[02:40] <zblach> Talim, which version?
[02:40] <Xorlev> I started to break down, and go back to Windows, when it crashing and the desktop not working well reminded me why I switched in the first place.
[02:40] <Talim> I was using red hat
[02:40] <dreamie> the icon saids it is printing but it isnt
[02:40] <thoreauputic> vader1102: consulting the dmesg command might help ( dmesg | less  , or dmesg | grep hotplug )
[02:40] <zblach> Talim, which version of flash?
[02:41] <l0rdvad3r> pauldaoust, thankz
[02:41] <Xorlev> dreamie: Have CUPS or another printer driver installed?
[02:41] <Talim> ah, i'm not sure
[02:41] <vader1102> k
[02:41] <Talim> but I had it running just fine
[02:41] <dreamie> Xorlev, no
[02:41] <zip> hm.. guess it does not connect to XP though
[02:41] <pauldaoust> shadeofgrey: k3b should install all of its dependencies properly and automatically... it looks like K3b doesn't have a menu entry on my computer either.
[02:41] <zblach> MX is completly supported, MX2004 doesn'
[02:41] <pauldaoust> l0rdvad3r: no problem
[02:41] <zblach> t work at all
[02:42] <Talim> I don't play games at all so no problem there :)
[02:42] <shadeofgrey> no thats not true paul...  does anybody else know?
[02:42] <vader1102> Zip, does XP have NTFS file system?
[02:42] <zblach> Talim, it was an example. there are many things i miss from windows, but the no-crashing thing is the reason i switched
[02:43] <shadeofgrey> you have to install k3b, k3blibs, and CDRDAO seperately...  i just cant remember what  the last requirement is...  prolly kdebase
[02:43] <dreamie> so what could be a problem when a printer doesnt print ?
[02:43] <Talim> yeah, now that i have both a desktop and a laptop i wont have any problems at all :)
[02:43] <dabaR> zblach: what do you miss from windows?
[02:43] <Talim> I'
[02:43] <Talim> err
[02:43] <Xorlev> I miss the ease that my games went it
[02:44] <Talim> anyway, thanks for all the help :) bye
[02:44] <Xorlev> I have to struggle to get most of my games in
[02:44] <zblach> dabaR, flash MX, my printers, my shared folders, my games
[02:44] <zblach> my tech support
[02:44] <tammy> can a printer hooked to a xandros box be networked to use on an ubuntu box?
[02:44] <zblach> tammy, i'm sure. but its not easy
[02:44] <tammy> hmmm
[02:44] <FR500> tammy: sure, and zblach is not that hard either
[02:45] <dabaR> he is semy hard.
[02:45] <dabaR> semi
[02:45] <zblach> FR500, oh? i'm having a fun enough time printing to a windows computer
[02:45] <dreamie> zblack, i miss nothing from windows
[02:45] <FR500> zblach: doesnt work?
[02:45] <tammy> me either dreamie
[02:45] <zblach> dreamie, it just hasn't sunk in yet
[02:45] <zblach> FR500, not only that, but it doesn't even see the shared printer
[02:45] <vader1102> zblach, I have no problems printing to a windows machine
[02:45] <dreamie> zblach, it has
[02:45] <dreamie> zblach sick of tire of it
[02:46] <FR500> zblach: you wont see it like in windows (ie: smb://computername)
[02:46] <tammy> how does it work, FR500?
[02:46] <dreamie> zblach sick of tire of all the problems that came with windows
[02:46] <zblach> vader1102, FR500, wanna help me set up my printers. please?
[02:46] <FR500> tammy you need samba
[02:46] <dreamie> zzblach, i am having printer problems with ubuntu too
[02:46] <tammy> i have samba
[02:46] <FR500> zblach: make sure your shared printer name is only 8 letters long
[02:46] <dreamie> zblach, thankfully i rarely use printers
[02:46] <vader1102> zblach, if I can....took me a bit to get my hp working to my wifes oc
[02:46] <zblach> FR500, are you serious?
[02:47] <FR500> zblach: yes i am
[02:47] <FR500> zblach: no spaces too
[02:47] <zblach> that seems a bit ...limited
[02:47] <FR500> dont ask me why
[02:47] <FR500> cuz i dont know
[02:47] <mik3> yep
[02:47] <zblach> ok, i'll try
[02:47] <dabaR> ya, you cant name your printer eufratiology now...
[02:47] <zblach> brb 5 mins
[02:47] <dabaR> :(
[02:47] <honza> hi. how do I re-run hardware detection?
[02:47] <zblach> printer name: Samsung ML-4500 Laser
[02:47] <honza> I mean the thing that was done when installing
[02:48] <DaMi3n> is there something like PnP in linux as well??
[02:48] <pauldaoust> what on earth is eufratiology?
[02:48] <NoUse> honza it should detect new hardward when booting if it doesn't do it on the fly
[02:48] <FR500> tammy: have you tried sharing folders (ie; system->Administration->shared folders)
[02:48] <tammy> yes
[02:48] <honza> NoUse: in other words, should I restart? :)
[02:48] <dabaR> honza: not sure if this is what you are looking for, but, you can sudo dpkg-reconfigure base-install. not sure that is it at all.
[02:48] <FR500> tammy: does it work? i mean, are your windows PCs able to see them?
[02:48] <tammy> but i'm very new to ubuntu, from xandros
[02:49] <tammy> yes as far as i know
[02:49] <NoUse> honza what kind of hardware have you installed?
[02:49] <FR500> ok
[02:49] <DaMi3n> tammy: try accesing ur printers by smb://ip/sharename
[02:49] <DaMi3n> sometimes the shares dont show up in ubuntu
[02:49] <zblach> ok, printer renamed
[02:49] <zblach> DaMi3n, its a pain, isn't it
[02:50] <FR500> DaMi3n: he want to share the printers in the ubuntu box
[02:50] <FR500> not access FROM the box
[02:50] <zblach> 0_0;; i see my printer now ^_^
[02:50] <DaMi3n> oh
[02:50] <FR500> see
[02:50] <zblach> FR500, now what?
[02:50] <honza> oh, btw is there a way to display all installed pacages (I believe there is ;), and is there some gui frontend to the package manager?
[02:50] <dabaR> zblach: excellent.
[02:50] <FR500> System->administration->printers
[02:50] <DaMi3n> synaptic
[02:50] <DaMi3n> honza: use synaptic
[02:50] <dabaR> is the gui frontend.
[02:50] <zblach> dabaR, FR500, okay, now what?
[02:51] <FR500> New printer
[02:51] <DaMi3n> yea it is
[02:51] <honza> neat, thanks
[02:51] <dabaR> zblach: no idea.
[02:51] <zblach> FR500, okay
[02:51] <FR500> there you select network and smb printer
[02:51] <zblach> ok
[02:51] <none_-> dpkg -l
[02:51] <FR500> then below you write the host and printer name details
[02:51] <FR500> and your windows user
[02:51] <funkyHat> k
[02:51] <zblach> host: computer name?
[02:52] <zblach> and username & pw not required
[02:52] <FR500> host=comouter name
[02:52] <dabaR> honza: ya, that dpkg -l will tell you what is installed.
[02:52] <FR500> try without user and pass
[02:52] <DaMi3n> FR500-- why doesnt ubuntu/linux resolve all comp names
[02:52] <FR500> but im not sure if it'll work
[02:52] <DaMi3n> most of the times i have to use smblookup
[02:53] <none_-> you need to put them in /etc/hosts
[02:53] <FR500> DaMi3n: smb infomation take long to propagate
[02:53] <FR500> especially without a Windows9x box in the neighborhood
[02:53] <fblade> hey guys y when i try to use apt-get install, i get errors like WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!  libgcc1, or is debconf installed, the thing is debconf is intalled
[02:53] <dabaR> C:)
[02:53] <zblach> fblade, ignore it and take a leap of faith. its nothing. dwabi
[02:53] <DaMi3n> l0l
[02:53] <none_-> fblade: use the main ubuntu server
[02:54] <Cashel> re... damn dialup
[02:54] <dabaR> fblade: well, whats in your sources.list?
[02:54] <fblade> dabar: the source list from ubuntuguide.org
[02:54] <FR500> talkig about apt, i'm getting some recurrent  errors lately
[02:55] <zblach> FR500, "unable to connect to samba host"
[02:55] <none_-> fblade: don't use those
[02:55] <FR500> zblach: can you try smb://host_name?
[02:55] <thoreauputic> !tell fblade about sources
[02:55] <nalioth> fblade: the ubuntuguide will steer you wrong in many ways
[02:55] <dabaR> fblade: has backports enabled?
[02:55] <FR500> thoreauputic: tell me please
[02:55] <zblach> ubuntuguide killed my sound :'(
[02:55] <thoreauputic> !sources
[02:55] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:56] <dabaR> !ask the bot
[02:56] <Cashel> anyone know a good gnome menu editor?
[02:56] <thoreauputic> !smeg
[02:56] <ubotu> smeg is, like, totally, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[02:57] <Cashel> ahhh nice thanks...
[02:57] <DaMi3n> how do i install newer packages like amarok 1.3.1
[02:57] <dabaR> its not bad, but, I found out that you can edit the whole thing by hand.
[02:57] <DaMi3n> they arent present in the repos
[02:57] <fblade> i always thought ubuntuguide was god i guess not, also i get this error at the end of some once it as failed. dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 2 package `dpkg':
[02:57] <fblade>  error in Version string `': version string is empty
[02:57] <fblade> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[02:57] <fblade>  i litarey cant install anything
[02:57] <ar_media> can someone help me mount a drive partition?
[02:57] <thoreauputic> fblade: DON'T paste here!
[02:57] <z|bandito> literally
[02:58] <DaMi3n> ar_media: use the command mount
[02:58] <thoreauputic> fblade: read the topic
[02:58] <ar_media> umm, duh
[02:58] <ar_media> i know that
[02:58] <z|bandito> is there a list of known issues regarding sound chipsets?
[02:58] <dabaR> Cashel: this folder, /usr/share/applications/, has .desktop files, and editing those, removing them, and so on, edits the menu indirectly, and you can do anything with it, I think.
[02:58] <ar_media> it's telling me bad fs type
[02:58] <DaMi3n> ar_media: what kinda pattition are u tryin to mount
[02:58] <zblach> FR500, not working. and i can't remove my dead printers
[02:58] <FR500> zblach: did it work?
[02:58] <ar_media> it's the boot partition hda1
[02:58] <FR500> weird
[02:59] <z|bandito> you need to specify the fs type then
[02:59] <mik3> Hello, for 5 days i have been trying to troubleshoot a problem i have with the apt system. Everytime i try to install certain packages and/or update i get the following error: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error. (so far i have manually replaced packages.gz, reinstalled apt, reinstalled gzip, modified sources.list countless times) has anyone else come accross this problem?
[02:59] <poningru> I had a question
[02:59] <zblach> FR500, frustrating
[02:59] <DaMi3n> which file system???
[02:59] <tammy> This is what i get when i try to print "can't load /etc/samba/smb.conf - run testparm to debug it".
[02:59] <shadeofgrey> does k3b require kdebase to be installed?
[02:59] <FR500> zblach can you try Apps->run smb://computername?
[02:59] <ar_media> hold on.  what's that place that you paste to?
[02:59] <nalioth> mik3: your gzip is erroring out, try the apt command again
[02:59] <ar_media> it's a website.
[02:59] <poningru> why isnt firefox 1.5 being added for breazy?
[02:59] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[02:59] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:59] <h17m4n> !ntfs
[02:59] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[02:59] <Cashel> dabaR, ahh good to know thanks...
[02:59] <zblach> FR500, opens up samba fine
[02:59] <poningru> I think I asked this before never got an answer
[02:59] <mik3> nalioth: that does not work.,
[03:00] <ar_media> ok, i'll paste my fdisk -l
[03:00] <zblach> ntfs: 'N T' stands for 'not the'
[03:00] <ar_media> lol
[03:00] <FR500> thoreauputic: even with those i get some bzip errors
[03:00] <ar_media> ntfs isnt' so bad
[03:00] <h17m4n> Question: Is it safe to mount NTFS just to READ?
[03:00] <ar_media> there is a nice little hole you can hide things in
[03:00] <FR500> zblach: then it should work just fine
[03:00] <z|bandito> mik3, i dunno but perhaps you need to reload gzip? :)
[03:00] <nalioth> mik3: so your apt NEVER updates?
[03:00] <DaMi3n> ntfs needs defragmenting thats bad enuf
[03:00] <nalioth> h17m4n: yes it is
[03:00] <tammy> Can't load /etc/samba/smb.conf - run testparm to debug it    thats what it says when i try to print.
[03:00] <zblach> FR500, *shrugs*
[03:00] <HrdwrBoB> h17m4n: yes
[03:00] <shadeofgrey> hey thor -- can you please tell me what packages i need to install to run K3B the burning application in hoary?
[03:00] <mik3> z|bandito are you kidding me? did i not just say i did that?
[03:00] <mik3> holy crap.
[03:01] <zblach> its a shame there's no auto-detect function
[03:01] <nalioth> !tell h17m4n about ntfs
[03:01] <z|bandito> just trying to help d00d
[03:01] <poningru> well I should go to sleep
[03:01] <h17m4n> yeah I asked that
[03:01] <h17m4n> Thankx
[03:01] <g_> tony
[03:01] <Hergiswi> Gotta reboot. Brb.
[03:01] <h17m4n> I started using ubuntu last weekend, so all my files are still on the NTFS partition.
[03:02] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: you should be able to just do ' sudo apt-get install k3b'
[03:02] <zblach> ubotu, tell me about printers
[03:02] <zblach> please?
[03:02] <FR500> i get some auto signature errors failed after apt-get update........
[03:02] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: assuming your sources are correctly configured
[03:02] <zblach> ubotu, tell me about print
[03:02] <g_> what are you a bounch of fags
[03:02] <FR500> zblach: instead of host name, con you try ip address?
[03:02] <funkyHat> zblach, just say !printers
[03:02] <zblach> !printers
[03:02] <ubotu> well, printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[03:02] <mik3> kick his ass sea-bass
[03:03] <h17m4n> This is actually the third time I try a linux distro, but this time I could actually understand some of the stuff that goes on. Ubuntu is pretty straight forward. I may try suse though.
[03:03] <mik3> Hello, for 5 days i have been trying to troubleshoot a problem i have with the apt system. Everytime i try to install certain packages and/or update i get the following error: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error. (so far i have manually replaced packages.gz, reinstalled apt, reinstalled gzip, modified sources.list countless times) has anyone else come accross this problem?
[03:03] <Seveas> mik3, still no luck with that?
[03:03] <mik3> Seveas : no =(
[03:03] <Seveas> have you filed a bug on it/contact developers?
[03:04] <mik3> no i figured the developers were in here
[03:04] <mik3> heh
[03:04] <dabaR> has he used different sources.list, like the ones from nickrud?
[03:04] <mik3> where the nickrud sources.list
[03:04] <mik3> ^are
[03:04] <mik3> ^is i should say
[03:04] <vaticano> hi
[03:05] <dabaR> use the pastebined ones, and make that your sources.list file.
[03:05] <FR500> zblach: did you try ip address instead of host name?
[03:05] <DaMi3n> how do i install packages not present in repos like amarok 1.3.1 etc
[03:05] <mik3> this is quite disturbing, this problem i have.
[03:05] <Seveas> mik3, COLUMNS=120 dpkg -l gzip
[03:05] <Seveas> ii  gzip                     1.3.5-9ubuntu3.4         The GNU compression utility
[03:06] <Seveas> is your version *exactly* the same>
[03:06] <Seveas> ?
[03:06] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with using ubuntu on a KVM switch?
[03:06] <FR500> bur[n] er: i have one
[03:06] <FR500> d-link
[03:06] <FR500> works 100%
[03:06] <bur[n] er> FR500: does the resolution get messed up if you're not on the computer at  boot time?
[03:07] <SuperQ> bur[n] er: never had a problem with an electronic KVM
[03:07] <geneo93> so do i
[03:07] <FR500> not for me
[03:07] <SuperQ> bur[n] er: mechanical KVMs SUCK
[03:07] <bur[n] er> i get 640x480 unless i'm on the box  at boot
[03:07] <mik3> Seveas i don't understand what you are asking me =-/
[03:07] <bur[n] er> sclk sclk 1,2,3 & 4
[03:07] <bur[n] er> :)
[03:07] <SuperQ> bur[n] er: ohhhh. the KVM is not passing the EDID data
[03:07] <Seveas> COLUMNS=120 dpkg -l gzip <-- run that comman
[03:07] <SuperQ> bur[n] er: ubuntu uses data from the monitor to figure out what modes are supported
[03:07] <Seveas> that should give you the version number of gzip
[03:08] <bur[n] er> SuperQ: anything I can do?  or just always be focused on boot?
[03:08] <fblade> i've updated my source list to the orignal and still get the error
[03:08] <geneo93> SuperQ:  thats not fair mine works flawlessly
[03:08] <mik3> yes they are exactly the same
[03:08] <mik3> i just re-installed gzip and apt
[03:08] <SuperQ> geneo93: yea.. probably because the KVM is passing the signal pins for EDID
[03:08] <mik3> via apt-get --reinstall apt gzip
[03:09] <Seveas> you really should contact<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:09] <anomaly> synergy looks like a good sw/kvm
[03:09] <SuperQ> bur[n] er: you should be able to adjust the resolution under system:administration:
[03:09] <mik3> Seveas : and say what?
[03:09] <jimmy43> may i ask a help q when your ready
[03:09] <SuperQ> bur[n] er: you can force the resolution fairly easily
[03:09] <Seveas> just ask him what can possibly be the problem :)
[03:09] <SuperQ> bur[n] er: I'm not infront of a ubuntu box right now, so I can't walk you through it
[03:09] <bur[n] er> superq: only 640x480 ius avail through the resolution gui
[03:09] <Seveas> and that you tried all sorts of things
[03:10] <mik3> ok
[03:10] <SuperQ> bur[n] er: hrm
[03:10] <jimmy43> okay here is my problem
[03:10] <SuperQ> bur[n] er: try pluging the monitor in directly, and rebooting
[03:10] <SuperQ> bur[n] er: and select the res you want
[03:10] <FR500> bur[n] er: what about restaring xserver after booting for example
[03:10] <jimmy43> I want to install ubuntu but i cant use the mbr for various reasons
[03:10] <FR500> with ctrl alt bksp
[03:10] <jimmy43> and the ubuntu install program wont let me create grub on a floppy
[03:11] <SuperQ> jimmy43: you should be able to put GRUB in the superblock of the root filesystem
[03:11] <bur[n] er> FR500: workd then
[03:11] <FR500> hmmm
[03:11] <jimmy43> but why do i get a critcal error when i try to put it on a floppy
[03:11] <h17m4n> 8-) I could see my NTFS drive! WOW Linux is like Magic
[03:11] <FR500> well there is a workaround but not sure on how to make it permanent
[03:11] <fblade> can you reinstall ubuntu with out getting rid of any data
[03:11] <SuperQ> jimmy43: don't know
[03:11] <Seveas> fblade, why would you reinstall>
[03:11] <bur[n] er> i think I gotta just bear it on the focus on boot :\
[03:11] <bur[n] er> thanks guys
[03:12] <luckyaba> my apache isn't working
[03:12] <SuperQ> jimmy43: after install, you can use this command: "sudo grub-install /dev/FOO"
[03:12] <LaGodactyl> I installed ubuntu on 1 partition, then I installed Windows on the other, and it boots straight into Windows, not even asking what I should boot into.
[03:12] <luckyaba> im able to access it within the network but not outside it
[03:12] <FR500> LaGodactyl: it overwrote your mbr
[03:12] <SuperQ> jimmy43: where FOO is the device for the root filesystem
[03:12] <luckyaba> anyone know what might be the problem?
[03:12] <SuperQ> jimmy43: you may be able to select it during install using "expert" mode
[03:12] <jimmy43> but i would have to get in first
[03:12] <LaGodactyl> so, should i reinstall ubuntu?
[03:12] <fblade> seveas: because im not able to install anything,even thoguth i fixed the source list, reinstalling it may fix any errors that have happend
[03:13] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: no
[03:13] <FR500> i usually boot with any linix live cd and then mount my hd, chroot to the ubuntu system and run grub-install hd0
[03:13] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: you just need to fix grub
[03:13] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: do you have the ubuntu live CD?
[03:13] <Seveas> fblade, what is the error?
[03:13] <LaGodactyl> nope
[03:13] <Xorlev_> Bloody Linux...locking up >_<
[03:13] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: do you remember where your root filesystem is?
[03:14] <sexcopter8000m> i've downloaded the packages for support in french and french menues, dialogue boxes etc. how do i make ubuntu work in french?
[03:14] <Xorlev_> Or the user input at least.
[03:14] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: "hda2" "hda1"?
[03:14] <LaGodactyl> im completely new to this
[03:14] <Seveas> sexcopter8000m, install language-pack-fr and language-support-fr
[03:14] <LaGodactyl> hda1 most likely
[03:14] <Seveas> and run sudo dplg-reconfigure locales
[03:14] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: yea.. installing windows after linux will wipe the MBR
[03:14] <jimmy43> i might try that
[03:14] <LaGodactyl> so i boot into it with the live cd/
[03:14] <jimmy43> could you give me step by step
[03:14] <wastrel> "hello"
[03:14] <sexcopter8000m> Seveas: thanks, it's that second bit i needed
[03:14] <SPERMITE> im trying install ut2003 but em when it tells me to insert disk  2 i cant get the cdrom to open for nothing
[03:15] <FR500> LaGodactyl: can you download a live cd?
[03:15] <LaGodactyl> yeah
[03:15] <LaGodactyl> im doing that right now
[03:15] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: try this: go into windows, start:settings::control panel::
[03:15] <LaGodactyl> k
[03:15] <wastrel> SPERMITE, maybe the disk in there is still mounted
[03:15] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: administrative tools::computer managment::disk managment
[03:16] <FR500> has anyone of you succefully compiled bmpx?
[03:16] <LaGodactyl> yup
[03:16] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: you should be able to set the "bootable flag" for the ubuntu partition
[03:16] <SuperQ> right-click
[03:16] <wastrel> what's bmpx?
[03:16] <FR500> LaGodactyl: bmpX? really?
[03:17] <LaGodactyl> no, i wasnt talking to you sorry fr500
[03:17] <jimmy43> Is the critical error when you try to make a floopy a known error
[03:17] <FR500> ok
[03:17] <LaGodactyl> i cant change anything on the Healthy (Unknown Partition)
[03:17] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: did you find the "bootable" option in disk managment?
[03:17] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: it might be under the right-click menu
[03:18] <LaGodactyl> thats where i checked
[03:18] <SuperQ> hrm
[03:19] <^rob^> hi
[03:19] <dabaR> yo
[03:19] <^rob^> does anyone know where to find kipi-plugins?
[03:19] <LaGodactyl> should i boot into it with the ubuntu live cd
[03:19] <^rob^> apt-cache does not yell any kipi-plugins
[03:20] <khermans> anyone know how to get the monthly rotating desktop background?
[03:20] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: you should be able to do a grub-install to fix the partition
[03:20] <LaGodactyl> ok
[03:20] <h17m4n> !samba
[03:20] <ubotu> samba is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:20] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: it's more complicated
[03:20] <LaGodactyl> seeing as i have nothing on that partition yet
[03:20] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: you could just re-install
[03:20] <h17m4n> !thanks
[03:20] <ubotu> sure thing, h17m4n
[03:20] <LaGodactyl> ok
[03:21] <LaGodactyl> sounds good
[03:21] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: if you have nothing invested in the ubuntu install
[03:21] <LaGodactyl> nope. not yet
[03:21] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: I always install windows first on dual-boot machines
[03:21] <LaGodactyl> from now on ill just do windows first
[03:21] <LaGodactyl> yeah
[03:21] <SuperQ> since windows likes to think it is the only thing in existance
[03:21] <LaGodactyl> rofl
[03:21] <FR500> yeah i'm getting ready to wipe clean my hd for breezy
[03:21] <LaGodactyl> thank you for the help
[03:21] <SuperQ> no problem
[03:21] <LaGodactyl> hopefully i wont need to come back :)
[03:22] <MDM> how do I uninstall the official nvidia drivers and install ubuntu's nvidia driver? should I just apt-get nvidia-glx and change the GLCore etc back?
[03:22] <SuperQ> LaGodactyl: hehe.. you're always welcome back
[03:22] <jimmy43> I have two harddrives one with winxp one where i want to install ubuntu
[03:22] <SuperQ> jimmy43: ok?
[03:22] <jimmy43> duriung the install i slect not to have grub in the mbr
[03:22] <jimmy43> instead i choose /dev/fd0
[03:22] <SuperQ> oh..
[03:22] <jimmy43> but i get a critical error
[03:23] <SuperQ> yea.. I don't know if that's supported
[03:23] <nmstryoda> jimmy43, you need to install the grub to its own partition
[03:23] <jimmy43> the menu gives it as an example
[03:23] <nmstryoda> imho
[03:23] <nmstryoda> since fd0 is a floppy
[03:23] <SuperQ> nmstryoda: naw.. you can put it in the superblock of whatever / is
[03:23] <nmstryoda> yea
[03:23] <nmstryoda> true
[03:23] <SuperQ> nmstryoda: I wish ubuntu would do that by default like RH does
[03:23] <nmstryoda> yea
[03:24] <SuperQ> it solves a lot of problems with things like overlay drivers, and other MBR hacks
[03:24] <nmstryoda> that would make it easier for users
[03:24] <nmstryoda> yes
[03:24] <SuperQ> like there is this windows filesystem encryption thing my company uses that needs to stay in the MBR
[03:24] <jimmy43> grub in its own partiton?
[03:24] <nmstryoda> so jimmy43 I have found installing the whole thing to the second drive ok, but if you want grub to boot windows...
[03:24] <nmstryoda> nah
[03:25] <nmstryoda> forget i said it
[03:25] <nmstryoda> too much work
[03:25] <jimmy43> ok
[03:25] <nmstryoda> not really necessary like SuperQ said
[03:25] <mik3> this is so frustrating
[03:25] <jimmy43> continue
[03:25] <mik3> Seveas come fix my computer =<
[03:25] <nmstryoda> jimmy43, so you make the drive you want Ubuntu on be the first bootable drive
[03:26] <Seveas> mik3, I wish I could
[03:26] <jimmy43> would that be in the bios?
[03:26] <goofrider> Hey guys, I have toruble connecting to mysqld remotely. It keep saying connection refused (using mysql clients and telnet). Even telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 3306 gave me a "connection refused". IPtables/Firestarter is disabled.
[03:26] <nmstryoda> jimmy43, yea you can do it that way
[03:26] <nmstryoda> i have
[03:26] <rob_p> nior:  Did you get the script I sent you?
[03:26] <bob2> goofrider: yes, you did't read /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian
[03:26] <nmstryoda> both switching cables/and or bios
[03:26] <mik3> bbl
[03:27] <goofrider> bob2 no it didn't. I'll read it now. LOL
[03:27] <nmstryoda> jimmy43, so the installler will be putting Grub in MBR of that drive instead of your windows drive
[03:27] <nmstryoda> that way if Windows dies....
[03:27] <nmstryoda> you still can work
[03:27] <nmstryoda> which is likely... =) .... given windows faults
[03:28] <jimmy43> is it possibel to bott the second drive from software alone
[03:28] <jimmy43> like a bottdisk
[03:28] <Duff> Can someone tell me how to get HT enabled in the kernel.  Ive done apt-get install linux-686-smp and its detecting 2 CPU`s but in both its saying CPU: hyperthreading is disabled" (in dmesg)
[03:28] <jimmy43> i dont want to open the pc if i can help it
[03:28] <Tartaros> does the standard installer also deploy kernel sources?
[03:28] <^rob^> jimmy43: if you use vmware - yes.
[03:29] <Tartaros> or am I just blind that I can't find them?
[03:29] <wastrel> anyone know how i can get ggv to talk to my printer?  i'm using cups & xpdf works, it talks to lpr, i don't know where to configure ggv for printing
[03:29] <bob2> Duff: ht needs to be passed as a boot option
[03:29] <bob2> Duff: assuming this is a 2.6 kernel
[03:29] <bob2> Tartaros: nope
[03:29] <Duff> yes a 2.6.10-5
[03:29] <Duff> what option is this?
[03:29] <bob2> Duff: then you need to pass ht; it was disabled for security reasons
[03:30] <Tartaros> bob2: umm. so how do I get sources that are accoprding to my kernel?
[03:30] <Duff> and can it be passed at installation?
[03:30] <Duff> so i dont get a 386 kernel?
[03:30] <bob2> Tartaros: why do you want them?
[03:30] <bob2> Duff: what does that have to do with ht?
[03:30] <Tartaros> vmware tools ned them when building themselves
[03:30] <bob2> Tartaros: no, they don't
[03:31] <omp342> is there a way to add a Trash launcher to the desktop without manually creating one?
[03:31] <bob2> Tartaros: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:31] <Duff> eh? does what ?
[03:31] <goofrider> BTW, anyone here is an admin on LaunchPad?
[03:31] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone
[03:31] <bob2> Duff: your initial question was "How do I enable HT?", and the answer is "pass the ht boot option to the kernel"
[03:31] <Cashel> omp342, Applications > System Tools > Configuration Editor
[03:31] <bob2> goofrider: why?
[03:31] <omp342> Cashel: thanks :)
[03:31] <Cashel> its in there somewhere.. under apps > nautilus maybe
[03:31] <goofrider> I accidentally created a project and a 2nd username.. :P
[03:32] <Duff> Just wanna know what the boot option is to enable HT, and if its also possible to pass a boot optin at install to get me the 2.6 kernel with HT from scratch
[03:32] <bob2> Duff: the boot option is 'ht', and no, passing itat install won't help
[03:32] <Duff> dont say its HT
[03:32] <bob2> and is of no use, anyway
[03:32] <goofrider> bob2, was trying to report a bug and added up creating a new project and a new username (I didn't realize I already had a uid ages ago)
[03:32] <Duff> lol
[03:32] <khermans> anyone know how to setup a persistent resolv.conf, one that wont get updated everytime i switch wireless networks?
[03:32] <Tartaros> bob2: ok, thankie
[03:32] <bob2> Duff: ?
[03:32] <Zoohouse> I have a friend who just installed ubuntu but unbuntu seems to be frezzing when It loads hotpluging (at boot up). He has a usb mouse and keyboard. What can he do to fix this problem?
[03:32] <luckyaba> anyone know about webcam feeds
[03:32] <Duff> i shud of known...
[03:32] <luckyaba> ?
[03:32] <Duff> ok, thanks
[03:33] <bob2> "frezzing" is not a very useful description of the problem
[03:33] <Duff> gunna try it now
[03:33] <SuperQ> Zoohouse: how long have you waited?
[03:33] <bob2> goofrider: email the list, I guess, I'm not going to delete things based on an irc conversation...
[03:33] <SuperQ> Zoohouse: what kind of PC?
[03:33] <bob2> goofrider: or ask in #launchpad
[03:33] <bimberi> khermans: set up resolv.conf as you want then "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf" (sets it immutable, -i resets)
[03:34] <Zoohouse> SuperQ: how long have I waited?
[03:34] <jimmy43> can I get into a unbuntu already installed  by using the install cd
[03:34] <Zoohouse> SuperQ: My friend hopfully should be logging in soon
[03:34] <jimmy43> not the live cd
[03:34] <goofrider> bob2, well as long as I got an OK from u to email the list. I wasn't sure about flooding everyone's inbox with my stupid mistakes
[03:35] <khermans> bimberi, what bit in the permissions is 'i' ?
[03:35] <Zoohouse> He was having trouble with his Nic card also
[03:35] <khermans> weird, never seen this before
[03:35] <SuperQ> Zoohouse: how long did you wait for the hotplug to work
[03:35] <transparentdream> I have a question, my printer used to have a URI assigned by CUPS, but now it doesn;t and the printer stopped working. Can anyone help?
[03:35] <Zoohouse> SuperQ: He says that it just froze
[03:35] <DewDude> i'm in KDE...can i make the gam icon in the box "flsah" when i get an im if it's desktop isn't in focus
[03:35] <Zoohouse> not sure how long he waited
[03:35] <SuperQ> jimmy43: you can try "linux root=/dev/FOO"
[03:35] <SuperQ> jimmy43: from the install CD
[03:35] <bimberi> khermans: not sure, but you can check with lsattr
[03:35] <Zoohouse> When he logs in, ill ask him
[03:36] <h17m4n> ubuntu+kde = kubuntu
[03:36] <jimmy43> thanks
[03:36] <bimberi> khermans: ----i------------ /etc/resolv.conf
[03:36] <zblach> !printing
[03:36] <ubotu> zblach: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:36] <zblach> !print
[03:36] <ubotu> zblach: I haven't a clue
[03:37] <h17m4n> !printer
[03:37] <ubotu> h17m4n: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:37] <bimberi> !printers
[03:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[03:37] <khermans> bimberi, thanks so much - - wish i knew about this cmmand before
[03:38] <communico> hey all. I'm struggling to get ubuntu working as a network server. i've configured samba like the wiki help page instructed, but it's not showing up on the window's machines network list
[03:38] <bimberi> khermans: np :)
[03:39] <transparentdream> Why isn;t CUPS detecting my Printer URI anymore?
[03:40] <Drajka> Where's the list of all the ubuntu repositiories at?
[03:41] <transparentdream> ok silence
[03:41] <Madpilot> !repos
[03:41] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:41] <transparentdream> can someone help me now that no one else needs it
[03:41] <Madpilot> Drajka: see ubotu above ^^^
[03:41] <vader1102> transparentdream,  if they know, they will answer
[03:41] <SuperQ> communico: that's complicated
[03:41] <h17m4n> !m3u
[03:42] <ubotu> h17m4n: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:42] <SuperQ> communico: (samba is slightly complicated)
[03:42] <h17m4n> How do I play .m3u lists?
[03:42] <Madpilot> !+samba
[03:42] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:42] <transparentdream> OK could someone direct me to a site besides the forums that will actually help me with my problem?
[03:43] <vader1102> transparentdream,  if I knew I would
[03:43] <transparentdream> *sigh* this channel has helped me lots of times, why not now?
[03:43] <SuperQ> transparentdream: if you give us a better idea of what the problem is
[03:43] <Madpilot> transparentdream: www.google.com?
[03:43] <transparentdream> well ok:
[03:43] <SuperQ> transparentdream: because it's a conglomeration of people, not a tech support staff :)
[03:43] <transparentdream> installed printer, Officejet K80, right? Printed test page and homework and everything
[03:43] <transparentdream> oh
[03:43] <transparentdream> anyway
[03:44] <transparentdream> i shut down and restart
[03:44] <transparentdream> dont use the printer for a few days
[03:44] <transparentdream> last night
[03:44] <communico> SuperQ: Is there a easier way to do it?
[03:44] <transparentdream> when i go to print
[03:44] <Madpilot> transparentdream: can you please stop using the ENTER key as punctuation? thanks...
[03:44] <transparentdream> it wont let me
[03:44] <SuperQ> communico: I don't know.. I've been using samba for too long to know an "easy" way to work with it
[03:44] <transparentdream> oh....sorry.
[03:45] <none_-> have you tried turning off the printer then turning it back on?
[03:45] <SuperQ> communico: All I know is how to make the config files work manualy
[03:45] <transparentdream> Yep
[03:45] <SuperQ> transparentdream: I would try removing the printer and doing a re-add
[03:45] <Madpilot> transparentdream: what happens when you re-run whatever setup routine you used to get it working the first time?
[03:45] <none_-> did you try the manager?
[03:45] <mik3> Seveas : Mission accomplished! The nickname m1k3 is fully registered!
[03:45] <mik3> oops
[03:46] <none_-> is the printer on? still there? what?
[03:46] <mik3> Seveas : reason: 550<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table)
[03:46] <transparentdream> well, I remove the printer, and restart, then I turn on the computer and add the printer. And it doesnt wok! it says it prints, compltetes but never prints
[03:47] <none_-> strange problem
[03:47] <none_-> the job completes?
[03:47] <wastrel> anyone know how i can get ggv printing with CUPS?    xpdf prints fine.