[06:49] <jiltdil> abhijeet:ok i am trying,please tell me why my mic is not recording sound to any of recorder also when i voice chat to any other person his voice comes to me but mine doesnot goes to him while using Windows OS it works fine
[06:49] <newby65> ayecee, do I loose anything in comparison to having a 'real' /boot/ partition?
[06:49] <Seven_Six_Two> Jordan_U, now that you mention that, someone told me that recently, and I forgot I had even asked.
[06:49] <nunuyabiz> newby65 be sure to learn how to use vmware!
[06:50] <ayecee> newby65: unless you're using a very old system, or very large disks, I don't think so
[06:50] <newby65> ok, thank you!
[06:50] <abhijeet> jiltdil: did u tried the voice recorder?
[06:50] <jiltdil> abhijeet:yes
[06:50] <Marcus_123> try the mic volume, turn it up
[06:50] <jwtiyar> while upgrading its stopped here http://postimage.org/image/2b50uaack/
[06:50] <abhijeet> jiltdil: can u see the bars when you speak louder
[06:51] <jiltdil> abhijeet:yes they are not moving they are still
[06:51] <abhijeet> jiltdil: then there must be issue.. one sec..
[06:51] <jiltdil> abhijeet:i tried almost many but i fail to record my sound
[06:52] <abhijeet> jiltdil: try alsamix in command prompt
[06:52] <nunuyabiz> newby65 they are all real partitions. 4 primary is just an old microsoft standard
[06:52] <jiltdil> ok now
[06:52] <abhijeet> you can see a gui right
[06:52] <jiltdil> abhijeet:yes i see,opened i actually tried alsamixer but idnot understood what to do
[06:53] <abhijeet> there go to the mice option increase the volume
[06:53] <jiltdil> abhijeet:front mic or just mic
[06:53] <mute> Anyone ever use Skype? Me and my girlfriend are skyping, and for some reason I'm getting her video on like a two minute delay and I don't know why.
[06:53] <abhijeet> jiltdil: u are in lappy
[06:53] <jiltdil> abhijeet:no in desktop
[06:54] <jiltdil> abhijeet:also there is option bosss mic
[06:54] <abhijeet> jiltdil: then i think it will be mic
[06:54] <ly> what is lappy
[06:54] <jiltdil> abhijet:ok m trying
[06:54] <abhijeet> jiltdil: anyway increase all of them .. we will see what  happens
[06:54] <ayecee> ly: lappy is slang for laptop
[06:54] <jwtiyar> while upgrading its stopped here http://postimage.org/image/2b50uaack/
[06:55] <ly> thanks
[06:55] <jiltdil> abhijeet:actually i tried all of them
[06:55] <ayecee> jwtiyar: how long have you waited?
[06:55] <abhijeet> jiltdil: :(
[06:55] <jwtiyar> its 20 minutes or more
[06:55] <arvy> Who can tell me how to install my network printer [HP laserjet 1213nf MFP
[06:55] <jwtiyar> ayce
[06:55] <jiltdil> abhijeet:it didinot work again
[06:56] <jwtiyar> ayecee, its 20 minutes or more
[06:56] <ayecee> jwtiyar: any disk activity?
[06:56] <nunuyabiz> arvy have you tried to plug it in yet? maybe it will hot plug
[06:56] <abhijeet> jiltdil: okay... have u tried the sound options from menu bar
[06:56] <jwtiyar> ayecee, i dont understand
[06:56] <abhijeet> there check the input h/w
[06:56] <jiltdil> abhijeet:i tried but you tell me i will also try it please
[06:56] <ayecee> jwtiyar: there is a light that flashes when your disk is used. do you see that flashing?
[06:57] <jwtiyar> ayecee, nope
[06:57] <abhijeet> jiltdil: okay
[06:57] <jiltdil> abhijeet:please wait for 5min i am coming some urgent if u don't mind
[06:57] <ayecee> jwtiyar: there are two options, and neither one is pretty. one is to open a terminal and try to figure out what is stuck. the other is to reboot and pray.
[06:58] <abhijeet> jiltdil: sure
[06:58] <ayecee> Khisanth: have i seen you on efnet?
[06:58] <Khisanth> no
[06:58] <ayecee> ok
[06:59] <jwtiyar> ayecee, sorry but i dont know what to do in terminal ? , its not finished yet to restart it
[07:00] <ayecee> jwtiyar: run "ps aux" and pastebin the results
[07:00] <povedaespinoza> disculpa el canal de español cual es??
[07:01] <jwtiyar> ayecee, http://pastebin.com/mDGsGC9J
[07:01] <arvy> nunuyabiz: Thanks.I've plug it in my computer all ready.
[07:01] <ayecee> jwtiyar: sorry, "ps auxwww"
[07:02] <povedaespinoza> como hago para ir al panel de español..
[07:02] <ayecee> !es | povedaespinoza
[07:02] <jwtiyar> ayecee, http://pastebin.com/KeSjSL2J
[07:03] <arvy> nunuyabiz: The printer can be found.But the driver is wrong...and,I can not find the current driver for ubuntu
[07:04] <ayecee> jwtiyar: my guess is to "kill 26903", the process that's trying to start mysql. Anyone else want to take a stab at it?
[07:04] <jwtiyar> ayecee, ok whats whole command to kill it?
[07:04] <ayecee> jwtiyar: that's the whole command
[07:05] <nunuyabiz> arvy here is a thread on how to do it:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200179
[07:05] <NegativeZer0> hello
[07:05] <ohsix> y helo
[07:06] <NegativeZer0> how goes it?
[07:06] <jwtiyar> ayecee, i did and itarted again
[07:06] <nit-wit> NegativeZer0, ask your question
[07:06] <ayecee> jwtiyar: with a different process id?
[07:06] <nit-wit> ;)
[07:07] <arvy> nunuyabiz: thanks
[07:07] <jwtiyar> ayecee, after i killed mysql the installing updates started againg and its doing updates now
[07:07] <ayecee> jwtiyar: oh good!
[07:08] <jwtiyar> ayecee, thanks , i will install lamp again if the mysql doesnt work
[07:08] <jiltdil> abhijeet:thanx should we proceed now please
[07:08] <nunuyabiz> arvy I don't know if that will work but I think it's worth trying. I see you said you can't find the driver, but Besides, whatever is wrong may become evident when you go throught that.
[07:08] <ohsix> brusque up!
[07:08] <ayecee> ok
[07:09] <RealOpty> wats best filesystem for linux? ext4?
[07:09] <ayecee> RealOpty: yes, sure
[07:09] <ohsix> there's no best, ext4 is pretty good for a lot of things though
[07:09] <ohsix> theres a lot of things you can do with files and each scenario will have an ideal choice; but for general use, ext4
[07:10] <RealOpty> is ext3 better?
[07:10] <ayecee> RealOpty: not in a way that you'd notice.
[07:10] <ohsix> depends, ext4 has different file allocations and extents, which can make it much faster in ideal situations
[07:10] <RealOpty> mmm does the journal use less filespace?
[07:10] <ohsix> ext3 added a journal to ext2 and made some other changes, but nothing i can remember stands out as worth mentioning
[07:11] <ohsix> couldn't say
[07:11] <nunuyabiz> RealOpty ext4 is good for fast bootup and it is more mature than ext3 it has greater recovery capabilities
[07:11] <magelan> лорарвр
[07:11] <mute> Ffff
[07:11] <ayecee> nunuyabiz: wait, what? more mature?
[07:11] <nunuyabiz> journaling uses more space
[07:11] <ayecee> nunuyabiz: I think you're using that term in a way I have not seen.
[07:11] <RealOpty> lol
[07:11] <abhijeet> jiltdil: okay
[07:12] <ayecee> nunuyabiz: perhaps you meant "modern" or "advanced"
[07:12] <ohsix> the log size is adjustable but you probably wouldn't want to mess with anything you can change when you create the fs; defaults are good outside of exceptional cases
[07:12] <RealOpty> i think he means more like bleeding edge
[07:12] <xro> Hi, i would like to  create a script that backup some files and send me an e-mail at the end... what should i use to send an e-mail in a bash script?
[07:12] <ayecee> xro: maybe sendmail
[07:12] <nunuyabiz> your right, that is not the correct use of mature
[07:12] <RealOpty> ^- sendmail
[07:13] <xro> but sendmail is a mail server, no?
[07:13] <ayecee> xro: yes, and it's also a command to send mail
[07:13] <ohsix> xro: bsd-mailx works and is small / default thing for most packages needing to send mail
[07:13] <jiltdil> abhijett:please tell me hnow what to do
[07:14] <ohsix> xro: and much less complex if you just want to send a mail to a local or remote address
[07:14] <nunuyabiz> ayecee it seemed to me that ext3 was more mature than ext2, even thought the bugs may not have been worked out.
[07:14] <DND> hi guys need help with scripting. here is the line: CRITICAL - load average: 0.48, 0.53, 0.54|load1=0.480;0.000;0.000;0; load5=0.525;0.000;0.000;0; load15=0.540;0.000;0.000;0;
[07:14] <RealOpty> Anyone have any suggestions on nvidia HDMI audio? I dont want to remove pulseaudio :\
[07:14] <xro> and don't really want to install a mail server on a production server... so i would like a minimal tool to send mail... mailx is the best?
[07:14] <DND> i wanted to get the 0.54 only so how can i cut everything else
[07:14] <ayecee> nunuyabiz: in what way?
[07:15] <ohsix> RealOpty: probably should state the problem, from the information you've given, you just need to switch the device in the volume control properties
[07:15] <ohsix> RealOpty: unless you mean you want to _use_ hdmi, and send more than pcm stereo
[07:15] <RealOpty> oh yeah lol
[07:15] <nunuyabiz> wasn't ext3 based on ext2 but journaling was added to it?
[07:15] <ohsix> xro: no best, but like i said, small/simple, and default used by a lot of  packages that send mail
[07:16] <ohsix> nunuyabiz: among other things, but yes
[07:16] <RealOpty> problem is it dont work with pulseaudio. it detects it but no sound. but ALSA works
[07:16] <xro> ohsix, ok... so i will use it...
[07:16] <ohsix> nunuyabiz: there's lwn articles about it, and detailed summaries on kernelnewbies.org, btu you'd have to find out what kernel it was introduced in
[07:16] <noisewaterphd> xro: check out SSMTP
[07:16] <xro> thanks all for your advices
[07:16] <xro> ok
[07:17] <ayecee> nunuyabiz: that was the most notable feature, but there were also directory htrees, and presumably other things
[07:17] <noisewaterphd> xro: its what i use in my projects. very small stripped down, can connect out externally to like gmail for sending, or send from the localhost, secure and only does what you need it to
[07:18] <sangeeth> How to install gnome3 stable in ubuntu 10.10?..
[07:18] <ohsix> RealOpty: you might need to set default-sample-rate; but i don't think you still need to, it would be something to try (don't forget to revert it if it isn't the fix) it's in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf, and you can restart pulse with killall pulseaudio or pulseaudio -k
[07:18] <superman097> is gnome3 stable?
[07:18] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: i believe its apt-get install gnome3-session
[07:19] <RealOpty> ohsix, ty ill try
[07:19] <RealOpty> !ALSA
[07:19] <ohsix> superman097: i don't think it is upstream yet, but i haven't checked in a while
[07:19] <noisewaterphd> superman097: gnome3 was officially released today, so yes
[07:19] <ohsix> that settles that, thanks noisewaterphd
[07:19] <cheater00> hi
[07:19] <Big_bear> i got "##c++ Cannot send to channel", does anyone tell me what happened?
[07:19] <ohsix> Big_bear: you probably need to be registered to speak
[07:19] <cheater00> Big_bear: you got banned or muted
[07:19] <cheater00> or need to register.
[07:20] <noisewaterphd> ohsix: i don't think the release has made it in to the package repositories yet, I have no idea whats in there right now
[07:20] <ohsix> or it's +m and you're not voiced
[07:20] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: I hope that it is not yet updated with the latest release...
[07:20] <ruan> help! if i go to sound properties, no sound hardware is detected! and i cant play any audio
[07:20] <cheater00> i have a problem, the update manager is mentioning an upgrade to me, but i don't know what it would be upgrading to. how do i find out?
[07:20] <ruan> but in lspci, it shows 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[07:20] <ohsix> ruan: see if the output of fuser -v /dev/snd/* is empty
[07:20] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: no, im sure the official release hasnt made it in yet, but you can download and build yourself
[07:20] <Big_bear> thanks
[07:20] <ruan> ohsix: Specified file name /dev/snd/* does not exist.
[07:20] <JohnTeddy> Is there any way in the software center to find out which package is teh most popular?
[07:20] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Thanks !!!
[07:21] <Big_bear> thanks all
[07:21] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Hope building it would be simple...
[07:21] <ohsix> ruan: then something is very wrong, did you mess with the sound related modules, modprobe.d options, or try and install from source OSS or newer versions of alsa?
[07:21] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:21] <ayecee> sangeeth: hah! that's funny.
[07:21] <cheater00> 10.04 LTS
[07:21] <ruan> ohsix: i tried to install OSS before this happened, not from source though
[07:21] <sangeeth> ayecee: Which is???
[07:22] <ruan> sound was very choppy in OSS
[07:22] <ohsix> ruan: well there you go, just revert it and forget OSS exists; come back with your real problem and we'll fix it without papering over it :]
[07:22] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth, should be straightforward if you are comfortable building from source, or maybe gnome has a .deb download already, i don't know.
[07:22] <RealOpty> Anyone use OpenWRT :D ?
[07:22] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 it will upgrade to 10.10
[07:22] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Cool
[07:22] <ruan> ohsix: how do i revert it? remove the packages?
[07:22] <ayecee> sangeeth: the idea that any gnome project would be easy to compile :)
[07:22] <ayecee> RealOpty: kind of the wrong channel, eh?
[07:22] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: i'd just hit http://gnome3.org and see what is available.
[07:22] <cheater00> nunuyabiz: but i chose not to upgrade to 10.10 when it first came out, why would it be mentioning the upgrade now?
[07:22] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: and report back your experience because I'm considering checking it out myself
[07:23] <ohsix> ruan: what's the package name?
[07:23] <RealOpty> ayecee, nah, just wondering if any one that uses ubuntu uses it :)
[07:23] <ayecee> RealOpty: in that case, yes :)
[07:23] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 you don't need to upgrade, and you don't have to. Just don't click on the upgrade button and close the update manager
[07:23] <ruan> ohsix: oss4-base
[07:23] <ruan> ohsix: and oss4-compat and gtk
[07:24] <ohsix> ruan: chances are the package blacklists all of the alsa modules too
[07:24] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: I had already checked it out... The beta version before 3 days... It's real awesome... Especially the modifications for chat and Activities, a new addition are superb...
[07:24] <ruan> it does
[07:24] <cheater00> nunuyabiz: ok, but why is it all of a sudden mentioning the upgrade at all?
[07:24] <ohsix> ruan: ok purge it
[07:24] <Nick_Meister> hello guys i tried to update my 10.10 to 11 and now it freezes at startup
[07:24] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Just do it, sudo apt-get install gnome3-session
[07:24] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 It's just letting you know. I don't upgrade because I want LTS
[07:24] <Nick_Meister> i am able to drop into root shell and start up gdm from there
[07:24] <ruan> ok brb, rebooting
[07:24] <Nick_Meister> but other than that normal boot freezes
[07:24] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: I already got it, but not getting any update for the first stable release
[07:25] <cheater00> nunuyabiz: but it let me know a few months back already
[07:25] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Will try to build it
[07:25] <cheater00> nunuyabiz: why would it "let me know" again?
[07:25] <icedtea> Nick_Meister sounds like a video card driver problem
[07:25] <RealOpty> ayecee, i <3 openwrt. do you use ushare at all?
[07:25] <ayecee> RealOpty: never heard of it
[07:25] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 it will always let you know. It doesn't matter if it lets you know
[07:25] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, so what should i do>???
[07:25] <icedtea> Nick_Meister:  look at the xorg.log in /var/log
[07:26] <cheater00> nunuyabiz: then why did it not let me know every time i ran the upgrade manager for the last 6 months?
[07:26] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 just a fluke!
[07:26] <cheater00> where does this fluke come from? i want to figure it out
[07:26] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: it looks like the gnome3 website hasnt even been updated yet which is wierd. you wouldnt think they would send out a press release before the site is ready? here is a link to the press release though: http://www.gnome.org/press/2011/04/gnome-3-0-released-better-for-users-developers-3/
[07:26] <icedtea> Nick_Meister: Xorg.0.log, sorry
[07:26] <RealOpty> ayecee, its a upnp streamer thingy. love it. just needs a the ability to transcode on the fly.
[07:26] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 it doesn't matter. That's all that matters.
[07:26] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, where can i find that?
[07:26] <ruan> ohsix: thanks! my sound works now
[07:27] <cheater00> i don't think you have helped me
[07:27] <ruan> evil oss :(
[07:27] <ohsix> ruan: np, why did you bother with OSS?
[07:27] <icedtea> Nick_Meister: its in "/var/log" folder
[07:27] <ruan> ohsix:  a game needed it
[07:27] <ayecee> RealOpty: transcoding on the fly sounds processor intensive
[07:27] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 feel fortunate, now you have a purpose in life!
[07:27] <ruan> ohsix: sound was choppy with its version
[07:27] <ohsix> ruan: padsp or aoss didn't work?
[07:27] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, ok ill brb going to go check it out
[07:27] <ruan> ohsix: havent tried aoss, padsp came out choppy, original game had no sound at all
[07:27] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Just check this out... Goto gnome.org and then click on the banner that's appearing...
[07:27] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 I'm really trying!
[07:28] <cheater00> i don't think so
[07:28] <cheater00> ok, never mind
[07:28] <ruan> woah
[07:28] <ruan> now it's not choppy anymore
[07:28] <cheater00> maybe there's someone else who actually knows
[07:28] <RealOpty> ayecee, it is indeed. i just need to find a codec that works on the PS3 and XBMC
[07:28] <ayecee> RealOpty: oh hey, that looks useful
[07:28] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: thanks, found it
[07:28] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: No problem :) !!!
[07:29] <ohsix> ruan: pulse can get a little messed up if it's long lived, something with the resampler and swapping out; i haven't tracked it down, but it is safe to kill it if you suspect it is messing up, it will restart itself
[07:29] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: It is really cool... I suggest you to try  it...
[07:29] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 you could be that someone! what an honor!
[07:29] <ayecee> i bet rhythmbox would like talking to that
[07:29] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, the last thing that it says is NVIDIA using gamma correction and boom EOF
[07:29] <cheater00> nunuyabiz: please stop trolling
[07:29] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Also, for its complete features try some features description in any site...
[07:30] <RealOpty> ayecee, rythmbox needs a upnp client integrated.
[07:30] <ayecee> cheater00: what was your question?
[07:30] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: here is what looks like a decent write up on installing gnome3 on ubuntu from the source repo: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/install-gnome-shell-from-git-in-ubuntu.html
[07:30] <ayecee> RealOpty: doesn't it have one? I don't have it handy to check
[07:30] <ayecee> RealOpty: maybe as a plugin
[07:30] <ohsix> it does have one, you just need to turn it on
[07:31] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Checking it out...
[07:31] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: ya, I plan to install it this week and see what's up. I'm testing out unity on 11.04 right now, and so far I'm not very impressed at all
[07:31] <RealOpty> ayecee, i dont remember seeing it in the pluin list
[07:31]  * RealOpty looks again
[07:31] <icedtea> Nick_Meister: if you hit ctrl+alt+f1 can you return to a console?
[07:31] <Jordan_U> cheater00: To have it only prompt for LTS releases go to System > Administration > Software Sources and change the "Show new distribution releases:" option to "Long Term support releases only".
[07:32] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Oh !! Let's Wait till it gets perfect !!!
[07:32] <icedtea> Nick_Meister: or does X just freeze up
[07:32] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, nope complete freeze
[07:32] <jingqq5210> icedtea: that's tty
[07:32] <icedtea> jingqq5210: ty
[07:32] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: But, I love GNOME 3... Try it right now... sudo apt-get install gnome3-session
[07:32] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: It's really COOOOOL...
[07:33] <cheater00> Jordan_U: that's the weird thing, i remember having set it when 10.10 first came out, and it still is set. what do you think is going on?
[07:33] <RealOpty> ohsix, where can i find this plugin?
[07:33] <icedtea> Nick_Meister: where you using the nvidia closed source drivers before?
[07:33] <ohsix> RealOpty: in the options
[07:34] <Momen> hi all my problem after install lamp and php5 all my systm not work  how can add php4  in server
[07:34] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, i was using nvidia-current package
[07:35] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: i may do it sooner than later, ive got a multiboot system and im using natty right now. I'll probably boot back into meerkat to install gnome3 though. Maybe tomorrow
[07:35] <panfist> i'm trying to delete a user but i get an error that the user is logged in
[07:35] <RealOpty> ohsix, its not in the plugin list lol or 'options'
[07:35] <Jordan_U> cheater00: Can you pastebin your  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades?
[07:35] <NoPasaran> hey guys
[07:35] <NoPasaran> got a problem
[07:35] <NoPasaran> ain't there a firefox 4 for ubuntu yet ?
[07:35] <panfist> but, if i ps ef|grep username or |grep uid, nothing shows up
[07:36] <ohsix> RealOpty: hm
[07:36] <sangeeth> NoPasaran: Firefox  4 will be inbuilt in Ubuntu 11.04
[07:36] <cheater00> it's just  "[DEFAULT]", comments, and "prompt=lts". (without the quotes)
[07:36] <NoPasaran> ok thanks
[07:36] <ohsix> RealOpty: it's here, theres a rhythmbox-plugins package, but i don't remember having to had it installed and it's worked as long as i can remember
[07:37] <cheater00> Jordan_U: ^
[07:37] <Jordan_U> cheater00: "prompt" or "Prompt"?
[07:37] <systemf1> join #ubuntu cn
[07:37] <cheater00> lowercase.
[07:37] <ohsix> RealOpty: hm it's not here anymore, let me look into it
[07:38] <systemf1> 中文如何进入？
[07:38] <Jordan_U> cheater00: Try changing it to "Prompt" then.
[07:38] <cheater00> Jordan_U: ok. how does it look on your installation?
[07:38] <icedtea> Nick_Meister: can you post the Xorg.0.log somewhere?
[07:38] <ohsix> RealOpty: it's in rhythmbox-plugin-coherence, i forgot i reinstalled
[07:38] <Jordan_U> cheater00: Prompt=normal
[07:38] <noisewaterphd> NoPasaran: firefox4 is in the package manager right now. just sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:38] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, do you happen to know the command line tool to send files to pastebin>>>???
[07:39] <Nick_Meister> cause its a different computer
[07:39] <RealOpty> ohsix, ty :)
[07:39] <Momen> any answer
[07:39] <Jordan_U> !pastebinit | Nick_Meister
[07:39] <noisewaterphd> NoPasaran: its been there for at least a week, because i installed it about a week ago
[07:39] <cheater00> Jordan_U: that has not changed the behaviour of update-manager
[07:39] <Jordan_U> cheater00: Can you post a screenshot?
[07:40] <Nick_Meister> i tried apt-get pastebininit and it said not found
[07:41] <icedtea> apt-get install pastebininit
[07:41] <nunuyabiz> Nick_Meister go to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:41] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, it did not work
[07:41] <Jordan_U> Nick_Meister: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[07:41] <Nick_Meister> dont work....
[07:42] <ohsix> cheater00: it has an upgrade button but doesn't say what version? its safe to click on that button btw, it will bring up a readme about the new release; which you can cancel
[07:42] <Chr|s> It should. Dbl check
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Nick_Meister: Please pastebin the exact output of "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[07:42] <Nick_Meister> wth....
[07:42] <cheater00> ohsix: no it has a "partial upgrade" button
[07:43] <cheater00> ohsix, Jordan_U: http://tinyurl.com/3vhgugh
[07:43] <ohsix> cheater00: peculiar
[07:43] <Jordan_U> cheater00: Partial upgrade is not the same as distribution upgrade. Partial upgrade is most likely caused by a PPA.
[07:43] <cheater00> yes!
[07:43] <cheater00> Jordan_U: hmm..
[07:43] <ohsix> (ppas should be purged before upgrades)
[07:44] <ohsix> cheater00: ahh that is a different dialogue than most people would think based on what you have said
[07:44] <cheater00> ohsix: "purged"? what does this mean?
[07:44] <ohsix> cheater00: it doesn't mean a distro upgrade, it means among the packages with new versions, it can only handle partially upgrading them
[07:45] <cheater00> hmmmm
[07:45] <Jordan_U> cheater00: Partial upgrade means that some packages have been held back or need to be removed to complete the upgrade. As the message states this shouldn't normally happen with a stable release, unless you are using third party packages / repositories.
[07:45] <cheater00> ok, sorry about the confusion then
[07:45] <ohsix> cheater00: i was talking about distro upgrades, (say 10.04 -> 10.10, which this isn't is) but the package ppa-purge removes and pins original versions to restore your system as if the ppa hadn't been installed
[07:45] <ohsix> cheater00: no problem
[07:45] <cheater00> ohsix: so was i - i thought it was a distro upgrade
[07:45] <cheater00> how do i find out any details about what cannot be "upgraded"?
[07:45] <ohsix> anyone have a clue to how to get aptitude to prefer solutions that will do holds over any installs or removals
[07:45] <Jordan_U> cheater00: Run "sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal.
[07:46] <ohsix> cheater00: i'd use aptitude, synaptic can probably give you a list too; but i don't use it
[07:46] <NoPasaran> noisewaterphd: did you find it in Synaptic?
[07:46] <ljsoftnet> where do i get skype the full version, not the beta version?
[07:47] <cheater00> The following packages have been kept back:  winetricks            ok, makes perfect sense
[07:47] <cheater00> thanks guys!
[07:47] <systemf1> ubuntu cn
[07:47] <erkan^> what mean %u example firefox %u for a command?
[07:48] <icedtea> ljsoftnet: I think they only offer the beta version right now
[07:48] <Seven_Six_Two> erkan^, that would be to pass firefox a variable, like a file name
[07:48] <ljsoftnet> icedtea ah ok, you know where i can get the 2.1 version?
[07:48] <erkan^> ow ok
[07:48] <Seven_Six_Two> erkan^, or a url, of course
[07:49] <icedtea> ljsoftnet: not been released yet I believe. I check the website ever so often
[07:49] <erkan^> Seven_Six_Two, sorry for pm. i am tried a url
[07:49] <icedtea> ljsoftnet: www.skype.com has deb's to install from there
[07:50] <ljsoftnet> icedtea the latest beta version, is showing a very dark color on my webcam
[07:50] <systemf1> ubuntu 中文聊天室如何进入？
[07:50] <Seven_Six_Two> erkan^, no problem. if it is calling that in a shortcut or menu item, it would also be use with "open with" in context menus and such
[07:50] <erkan^> yes i understand it
[07:50] <kreantos> hi
[07:50] <icedtea> systemf1: #ubuntu-cn
[07:51] <systemf1> icedtea 谢谢
[07:51] <kreantos> can i use 11.04 already for productive needs?
[07:51] <systemf1> #ubuntu-cn
[07:51] <Seven_Six_Two> systemf1, !ubuntu-cn
[07:51] <Seven_Six_Two> err...
[07:52] <thumb1040> i'm having some audio problems. mp3blaster is saying "failed to open sound device." my audio works on rythmbox and movie player though. any thoughts?
[07:52] <arand> kreantos: no, and #ubuntu+1 for support
[07:52] <icedtea> systemf1: /join #ubuntu-cn
[07:52] <kreantos> ok, thanky you
[07:52] <blocky> anybody able to tell me why I can't get tftpd running no matter what I try?
[07:53] <blocky> dnsmasq is supposed to enable it, no?
[07:54] <icedtea> ljsoftnet: strange, yeah the skype beta for linux isn't as nice as the windows one unfortunately, they really haven't put that much time into it and it shows
[07:55]  * RealOpty trys gnome3
[07:55] <ljsoftnet> icedtea ok thanks, im gonna try 2.1 which worked, im downloading it rigth now
[07:57] <RealOpty> um lol gnome3 reminds me of a crippled netbook running ubuntu
[07:57] <ohsix> :]
[07:59] <noisewaterphd> RealOpty: you should try unity if you think gnome3 is bad
[08:00] <noisewaterphd> I see my self revisiting xcfe in the near future
[08:00] <RealOpty> ^- same
[08:00] <ohsix> or the classic session
[08:00] <RealOpty> <3 terminal
[08:01] <noisewaterphd> well, if i have to bother messing with defaults, i slightly prefer xfce anyway so I would go back. gnome2 isnt bad enough to warrant the small amount of work, unity on the other hand definitely does
[08:01] <RealOpty> does flash work in lynx LOL ?
[08:02] <noisewaterphd> should
[08:02] <ohsix> RealOpty: it probably could with great effort, or for silliness, but i don't know of anyone who has done such things :]
[08:03] <RealOpty> at least someone caught my humor
[08:03] <noisewaterphd> apparently you missed mine
[08:04] <RealOpty> lol :) why am i awake at 3 am?
[08:04] <nunuyabiz> I noticed it <silently>
[08:04] <noisewaterphd> east coast eh?
[08:04] <Seven_Six_Two> RealOpty, maybe you are like me, and think better when nobody else is around.
[08:05] <RealOpty> I do love quiet time.
[08:06] <RealOpty> oh yeh now i remember !
[08:06] <RealOpty> anyone use XBMC?
[08:07] <Seven_Six_Two> I have in the past
[08:07] <RealOpty> like on the oldschool xbox?
[08:07] <Seven_Six_Two> no, on a pc
[08:07] <Seven_Six_Two> oh, yes. like that. but it was in ubuntu
[08:08] <NoPasaran> noisewaterphd: still have problems with firefox
[08:08] <nunuyabiz> Other than gnome, I only use ice on my server
[08:09] <MK`> If I put my home directory on a separate partition, is it easier for me to resize that partition later?
[08:09] <kriscolt> anyone know the apt-get line for grabbing codecs?
[08:09] <RealOpty> I have a NAS that runs OpenWRT, i use ushare to stream my media to 3 xbox's, 2 ps3s, and a few computers. i need a codec that works on all.
[08:09] <jiger> HI, quick question is there anyway that i can play " rtsp link extension .wsx in vlc player? well its live feed. all comments/help welcome.
[08:09] <Seven_Six_Two> MK`, no
[08:09] <noisewaterphd> NoPasaran: what problems
[08:09] <nit-wit> kriscolt, which codecs
[08:09] <tyreza> hello there
[08:09] <jiger> is there anyone can help please? or is there anyway to download or convert that stream to another wmv or any other extension?
[08:09] <kriscolt> um... all of them?
[08:09] <nunuyabiz> kriscolt do a google on medibuntu
[08:10] <NoPasaran> is just say " firefox is already the newest version.
[08:10] <kriscolt> i think i'm trying to play divx or xvid
[08:10] <tyreza> hello there
[08:10] <robbiethe1st> Hey guys - Simple question: what's a good way of 'preloading' a copy of Ubuntu onto a spare harddisk(from within a ubuntu install)?
[08:10] <phrozen> hi I made sudo adduser --system --no-create-home  --group svn
[08:10] <phrozen>  and now I am trying to connect via ssh and ubuntu wants password to log in - when I turned on users manager then I can not see user svn - where is a problem - how to set up the password?
[08:10] <tyreza> how to ping 3 ip at same time ?
[08:10] <nit-wit> kriscolt, for general stuff in the terminal sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras  if your runninh=g ubuntu
[08:10] <NoPasaran> and i can't find it in Synaptic
[08:10] <tyreza> i mean how to ping 3 URL same time
[08:10] <MK`> Ah, so I need to have both mounted at all times?
[08:11] <tyreza> i mean is it possible to ping :        $ping  www.bing.com www.google.fr www.yahoo.fr
[08:11] <noisewaterphd> NoPasaran: sorry, i though it was there by default, it looks like you actually need to add this repository: ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[08:11] <tyreza> at the same time ?
[08:11] <Seven_Six_Two> MK`, if you only have / and /home then more or less. You don't have to have /home mounted unless you want to do something user related.
[08:12] <phrozen> Adding new system user `svn' (UID 117)...
[08:12] <phrozen> adding a system user `svn' (UID 117) to group `svn'...
[08:12] <robbiethe1st> tyreza: Uh... why?
[08:12] <phrozen>  and now I am trying to connect via ssh and ubuntu wants password to log in - when I turned on users manager then I can not see user svn - where is a problem - how to set up the password?
[08:12] <tyreza> just liket that
[08:12] <Seven_Six_Two> MK`, which of course is just about everything except fixing stuff
[08:12] <NoPasaran> <noisewaterphd: thanks I will try that
[08:12] <gaurav_help> while updating my ubuntu 10.10 is Shows me  error "requires Installlation of untrusted packaages
[08:12] <folorn> oof
[08:12] <MJBrune> how many packages are there in ubuntu and what is a site that can tell me this number?
[08:12] <robbiethe1st> tyreza: Uh... I'd just open three terminals, run 'ping X' in one, 'ping y' in the second etc.
[08:13] <noisewaterphd> NoPasaran: So in ubuntu software center choose Settings>Repositories>Other Software, click on the add button and paste in that PPA
[08:13] <folorn> depends on how many programs u dled
[08:13] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Uh... a lot. Many thousand
[08:13] <Seven_Six_Two> MJBrune, !repos
[08:13] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: I understand this, freebsd has 22k in ports and tells this.
[08:13] <NoPasaran> noisewaterphd: OK
[08:13] <Seven_Six_Two> !repos
[08:13] <gaurav_help> while updating my ubuntu 10.10 is Shows me  error "requires Installlation of untrusted packaages
[08:14] <MJBrune> Seven_Six_Two: again i am looking for a number
[08:14] <MJBrune> Seven_Six_Two: none of these say a number.
[08:14] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Hm, let me check. apt may give that info
[08:14] <folorn> im haveing a minor problem with tor and need the right repos i think possibly anyone know the correct ones so it will recongize and find them when i go to update before the install?
[08:15] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: probably wont
[08:15] <nunuyabiz> gaurav_help that probably means that you have installed packeges on your box that are not in the supported reposetories
[08:15] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Uh... why not? it has a cache file with the entire list
[08:15] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: ok sorry, i meant it might but that wont help me if its not on a website.
[08:15] <MK`> I know you can't alter the size of the / partition without using a livecd, but if I have /home on another partition, can I unmount it to resize it, then remount it, I mean?
[08:15] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: well, at least of all the ones in the repos you have enabled
[08:16] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Uh... why?
[08:16] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: what are you trying to do?
[08:16] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: creating a report.
[08:16] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: i need hardcore statistics.
[08:16] <gaurav_help> nunuyabiz, so what i do
[08:16] <nunuyabiz> MK that would depend on if you have free space eg. if you want to increase the size
[08:17] <tr3nton> !chm
[08:17] <pc_> hello
[08:17] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Well, cite it as being from apt in Ubuntu 10.10. Anyone who actually cares can look it up
[08:17] <pc_> i am confused
[08:17] <pc_> has any installed justlinux
[08:18] <tyreza> that's not a good solution robbiethe1st
[08:18] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: ok how many are there?
[08:18] <nunuyabiz> gaurav_help personally, I would just go ahead and upgrade because I am the one that installed any unsupported packages
[08:18] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: thats a piss poor way to cite but meh im not a stickler
[08:19] <asadeddin>  Hey all. I have a problem that i need some help with. We're moving from one ip to another and I need to update the MX record, doing this will give me some downtime because i have to wait for the thing to propagate and then swtich the hardware and software setup
 is there a way i can setup the new MX record while keeping the old one so that the new one propagates and then i can switch the hardware and software setup quickly  then i can delete the old record
[08:20] <robbiethe1st> According to "apt-cache search .+ | wc -l", I get 35013
[08:20] <kurrata> hi, today my eclipse plugin for c++ broke, anyone knows what could be wrong?
[08:20] <gaurav_help> nunuyabiz, How i Install these unsupported packages
[08:21] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: So, incase you missed that - 35013 for my system with Universe/multiverse and some other bits enabled
[08:22] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: :/ thats not accurate.
[08:22] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: thanks anyways.
[08:22] <Seven_Six_Two> MJBrune, 32,218 for me. 10.10 with everything but sources enabled
[08:23] <nunuyabiz> gaurav_help are you updating from the update manager? When it give you an error, does it give you a "Details" button?
[08:23] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Uh... how is it not accurate? I mean... it's going to vary based on the version used, the repos enabled and such
[08:23] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Best you could get is a per-repo/version table... But even that's subject to change
[08:24] <gaurav_help> nunuyabiz, yes its shows me
[08:24] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: yeah your pull of wc -l could mean that the description took 2 lines or more
[08:24] <folorn> im haveing a problem finding the right source's for it could anyone help?
[08:24] <nunuyabiz> what are the details? post them in pastebin or tinyurl
[08:25] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Doesn't work that way. Pipe it through less witrh a wider console; they all are on one line excluding wordwrap
[08:25] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: and it doesn't count that.
[08:25] <nit-wit> folorn, http://www.torproject.org/
[08:26] <nunuyabiz> gaurav_help you need to run apt_get update in the terminal
[08:26] <nit-wit> folorn, tor has it's limitations in speed and privacy, read up on it.
[08:26] <Seven_Six_Two> robbiethe1st, that's what I would do too, but my synaptic says 32218 and your command counts 30469. I don't know why
[08:27] <robbiethe1st> Seven_Six_Two: Uh, it should. I've got different sources enabled.
[08:27] <gaurav_help> nunuyabiz, then after running that in terminal what i will do
[08:27] <Seven_Six_Two> robbiethe1st, lol.  I forgot I had ssh'd into my server  :/
[08:27] <robbiethe1st> Seven_Six_Two: Heh
[08:27] <sobersab1e> hi.
[08:28] <nunuyabiz> guarav_help after you run apt_get update go to this website for instructions on how to get the missing keys
[08:28] <nunuyabiz> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/10/fix-requires-installation-untrusted-packages-error-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat/
 MK that would depend on if you have free space eg. if you want to increase the size
[08:28] <folorn> i know nitwit im on the torproject just haveing trouble with the sources. think u can help?
[08:28] <MK`> Yeah say I have [/] [space] [/home] and I want to expand /home into that space
[08:28] <MK`> can I do that without a livecd?
[08:28] <red> Can anyone help me with SSH tunneling?
[08:28] <sobersab1e> I have a local admin user user1. I am trying to duplicate it by copying->chowning/chmodding files for user2.
[08:29] <red> I need to route my internet access on this PC through a remote server
[08:29] <sobersab1e> when I am trying to pop up update manager, I am still being asked for password for user1.
[08:29] <Seven_Six_Two> MK`, I created a partition, and set it to mount at /home/username/storage
[08:29] <sobersab1e> Why is it so, and how do I fix this ?
[08:29] <robbiethe1st> red: Easy. PM me
[08:29] <Cheery> I plan migrating to nginx on my server. But before I'm going to install one, does ubuntu have a process manager that'd particularly let me provide multiple instances of nginx all with different configs?
[08:29] <Seven_Six_Two> MK`, so you don't have to resize your home in most cases
[08:30] <dragonkeeper> Whats the best graphics driver to use with ubuntu 10.10, i have a hd 5770
[08:30] <sobersab1e> Cheery: what do you mean by "provide"
[08:30] <Cheery> (and different users)
[08:30] <MK`> Ok. I just wanted to know if what I said was possible
[08:30] <rodhash> Hey guys.. I'd to install gnome3-session, but how can I make a backup of my entire system? This is my work computer and I can't take the risk of any problem.. I'd have a big problem if I can't login..
[08:31] <Cheery> sobersab1e: well I'll need one root nginx to proxy around things, and many user nginx to serve each site in it's own user space.
[08:31] <Seven_Six_Two> MK`, it's possible to resize. I wouldn't try it without a live cd, and I wouldn't do it if I had important data. If you got it wrong you can always start over,,,
[08:31] <Cheery> sobersab1e: and I'd need to get them start up on boot
[08:31] <sobersab1e> Cheery: I don't understand your sentences. I understand each word though.
[08:32] <MK`> Ok. It's a fresh install and /home is empty
[08:32] <MK`> right now it's on the same partition as /
[08:32] <Seven_Six_Two> rodhash, a live cd, and dd  will give you a bit by bit image
[08:32] <Cheery> sobersab1e: it's common that ppl don't understand me. but you understand this right?
[08:32] <sobersab1e> the last sentence - I do understand.
[08:32] <Seven_Six_Two> rodhash, if you don't mind bash
[08:32] <sobersab1e> and partially some of the previous ones. speak simply. makes it clearer. moment.
[08:32] <Cheery> sobersab1e: 1. I need to define bunch of processes to start up at boot.
[08:33] <rodhash> Seven_Six_Two: what do you mean?
[08:33] <Cheery> sobersab1e: 2. I'd like to have a way to stop and restart them.
[08:33] <sobersabre> I'm back.
[08:33] <Cheery> sobersabre: how to do those things? :)
[08:33] <sobersabre> Cheery: I don't think this is the right channel.
[08:33] <sobersabre> it's app-specific domain.
[08:34] <sobersabre> go to nginx related chan, IMHO.
[08:34] <Cheery> ubuntu is a distribution, it has a process manager.
[08:34] <sobersabre> Cheery by "process manager" you mean an app to show you the processes running, etc. ?
[08:35] <Seven_Six_Two> rodhash, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[08:35] <mark-a> hey, i knwow this is a bad idea but need it for torubleshooting: can i get a python script to run with su permissions or the permissions of a particular user?
[08:35] <ferengee> red, all your trafic? or just one port
[08:35] <Cheery> sobersabre: nah. that'd be `top` - display linux tasks
[08:35] <sobersabre> Cheery: then wtf are you talking about... ?
[08:35] <sobersabre> what is "process" you're talking about ?
[08:36] <Cheery> sobersabre: process manager is a program that starts and stops processes autonomously.
[08:36] <theos> hi! the beep sound in my system suddenly changed to static sound. how can i change it?
[08:36] <theos> like a buzz
[08:37] <Cheery> sobersabre: process is an instance of program, executing the program in system memory.
[08:38] <theos> its called "alert sound". it was "default" but now its an annoying buzz sound
[08:38] <folorn> does anyone know anything better than tor thats user friendly that accomplish's about the same thing
[08:38] <NoPasaran> noisewaterphd: you are the demigod of the day, thanks for the help!
[08:39] <theos> folorn, tried a shell?
[08:39] <folorn> that doesnt protect the browser?
[08:40] <krage> how do you go under a proxy via ubuntu  netbook remix
[08:40] <nunuyabiz> Cheery do you want to run something like apache virtual hosts in ngix?
[08:41] <rodhash> Guys, what if I run 'dd' with the ubuntu running? Will it work?
[08:41] <Cheery> nunuyabiz: well nginx does virtual hosts, but I need to protect the web apps from each other too. that's why I'll put them into their own user space each.
[08:41] <Cheery> I guess I found what I need anyway though.
[08:42] <biopyte> hi, how can i preload openoffice at startup, so its starts faster once i need it? and how can i preload the ubuntu main menu, so there is no delay clicking it the first time?
[08:42] <Seven_Six_Two> rodhash, not a good idea on a mounted partition and open files. unmounted only, which means live. There are ways to backup without imaging. there are quite a few solutions listed in synaptic
[08:42] <folorn> you know much about that torproject theos?
[08:43] <nunuyabiz> Cheery doesn't apache do that? in other words it gives each virtual user its own configuration.
[08:43] <rodhash> Seven_Six_Two: Ok, another question: I'm using LVM, can I back up only the system or should I back up the entire disk?
[08:44] <Seven_Six_Two> rodhash, I have never used lvm, so I will have to defer to someone who has. sorry.
[08:44] <Cheery> nunuyabiz: yeah, and I've got apache running as well, but I'm bored to apache and the messy configs it has.
[08:44] <nunuyabiz> Cheery what solution did you find?
[08:45] <Cheery> nunuyabiz: I guess I'll need to write a python script which I'll then position into /etc/init.d/
[08:45] <Cheery> nunuyabiz: not sure yet how I'll make it run at bootup
[08:45] <Seven_Six_Two> rodhash, a quick search reveals that dd isn't recommended with lvm, but a filesystem backup would be easiest.
[08:50] <user123456> :)
[08:52] <MK`> does /home contain anything aside from user-specific settings?
[08:52] <MK`> Like, if I installed a new version of ubuntu, would it touch /home at all? etc.
[08:52] <tuxx-> MK`: not only the user specific settings, but also their files.
[08:52] <MK`> yeah of course
[08:53] <tuxx-> depends on what your setup is. Is your /home directory on your root partition? Or did you place it on a seperate partition?
[08:53] <MK`> It's on the root partition right now, I am reading up how to move it to a separate partition
[08:54] <MK`> but once I do move it
[08:54] <V3NOM> hi guys
[08:54] <MK`> hi
[08:54] <tuxx-> best thing to do, in my opinion, is backup /home, install the new system with a /home partition, and copy them back :-P
[08:54] <V3NOM> does it exist a ubuntu news channel or something like that?
[08:54] <MK`> This is a brand new install of linux btw
[08:55] <tuxx-> MK`: maybe you can look at http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions
[08:55] <tuxx-> if its ext3 ofc :-P
[08:55] <MK`> I am currently reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[08:56] <susundberg> V3NOM: mayby google it: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+news
[08:56] <tuxx-> hehe
[08:56] <V3NOM> thanks guy
[08:58] <V3NOM> I love ubuntu :-P
[08:59] <MK`> what is stored in gvf files?
[08:59] <MK`> and yeah it's great
[09:01] <jussi> how do I find out how much space is available on a usb disk from the CLI in ubntu 8.04
[09:01] <nunuyabiz> jussi df
[09:01] <ruan> sudo fdisk -l
[09:02] <jussi> nunuyabiz: thank you :)
[09:02] <MK`> say, about the article I linked
[09:02] <MK`> should I login as root for that
[09:02] <MK`> or use any admin user
[09:02] <ruan> !sudo
[09:02] <MK`> ah, so just prefixing with sudo will do the same?
[09:03] <ruan> depends on the command
[09:03] <MK`> I thought it would limit it somehow heh
[09:03] <ruan> sudo does all root commands
[09:03] <ruan> gksudo for graphical apps
[09:03] <MK`> ok
[09:04] <V3NOM> bye bye
[09:04] <MK`> can I resize my root partition from either side using a livecd with no problems?
[09:04] <kleinlappies> hey guys if i want to do a dist upgrade do I enter sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? or should i first do something with the sources.list file? eg edit it with the newdist. sources list? did a install last night off older cd, now just want to updrage.
[09:04] <ruan> yes. with gparted which is included
[09:05] <MK`> ok
[09:05] <ruan> but always backup before partitioning
[09:05] <MJBrune> is ubuntu rolling release?
[09:06] <MK`> How much space do I need for /, excluding /home?
[09:06] <ruan> rolling?
[09:06] <DJones> MJBrune: No its not, it has a 6 monthly release cycle
[09:06] <nunuyabiz> kleinlappies first do sudo apt_get update then do sudo apt_get upgrade
[09:06] <ruan> !partitioning
[09:07] <MJBrune> DJones: yes but does it require a CD to install the next version?
[09:07] <kleinlappies> oh cool so just the upgrade on need to edit the sources file? the system is up to date at the moment, thx
[09:07] <ruan> MJBrune: no
[09:07] <DJones> MJBrune: No you don't a cd to upgrade, you can upgrade automatically via the web
[09:07] <phonex01> how can i make FTP server on my own laptop so i can login to it and manage users and such things ?
[09:07] <ruan> MJBrune: but you can upgrade via the alternative cd if necessary
[09:07] <nunuyabiz> MK you can easily get by with 5 or 6 gigs, but I use 10
[09:07] <phonex01> im using ubuntu 10.10
[09:07] <nunuyabiz> to be safe
[09:08] <MK`> hm
[09:08] <nunuyabiz> In case I need room to install lots of packages later
[09:08] <Guest86223> hello everybody
[09:08] <MK`> it's a 15GB drive, I figure I can use it for / and swap
[09:08] <kleinlappies> nunuyabiz j ust  the upgrade on need to edit the sources file? the system is up to date at the moment, thx
[09:08] <MK`> and have home elsewhere; it's 1.5GB
[09:08] <Guest86223> hey is there anyone who help me for project????
[09:09] <ruan> Guest86223: what is it?
[09:09] <nunuyabiz> kleinlappies I don't think you need to edit sources file, they will import to the upgrad I'm pretty sure
[09:09] <benzaldehyde> phonex01: sounds like fun. apache makes i believe /var/www world wide accessable. can't imagine it would all that different than how 'it' handles it. as far as creating accounts i'd imagine that would be a system wide thing with permisions and such
[09:10] <kleinlappies> nunuyabiz great thx gonna do that justnow.
[09:10] <benzaldehyde> phonex01: when you find out let me know :D
[09:10] <Guest86223> ruan: my project is to add a package to the kernel and than again recompile the kernel so that package shud get installed automatically along with the  kernel..
[09:10] <phonex01> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[09:10] <phonex01> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[09:10] <ruan> !ftp
[09:11] <wizardken_> any utilities that are internal dictionaries??? meaning no connection needed to use them and are comprehensive?
[09:12] <theos> hi! the system alert sound suddenly changed to static/buzz sound. how can i change it?
[09:12] <benzaldehyde> phonex01: ubottu will also tell you that !webmin is no longer supported or maintained or what have you but i used it before and it was kinda like operating a webcart with a backend and all that, user friendly though i know i will get flamed for recommending it to you :D
[09:12] <MK`> can I resize swap safely with gparted on a livecd as well?
[09:12] <ruan> theos: system > preferences > sound
[09:12] <ruan> MK`: i believe so, yes
[09:12] <MK`> ok
[09:12] <theos> ruan, i tried that thanks. but it doesn no effect
[09:13] <ruan> theos: choose an alert sound?
[09:13] <_-_Marek11_-_> Is that the first channel on that server?
[09:15] <theos> ruan, yes i chose an alert sound but it doesnt get applied. i can hear it when i click on it like dog bark etc. but it doesnt get activated
[09:15] <LarsTO> Hi!
[09:15] <kjesle> Will the new Gnome 3 work for ubuntu 10.10?
[09:16] <LarsTO> No
[09:16] <theos> must be buggy
[09:16] <LarsTO> Hope somebody can help me too
[09:16] <ikonia> LarsTO: you need to ask a question
[09:17] <LarsTO> ok
[09:17] <LarsTO> well ... start at the beginning
[09:17] <ikonia> LarsTO: just summerise your question
[09:17] <LarsTO> it was a sunny day i walked around in the park garden. i thought and thought ...windows is expensive
[09:17] <LarsTO> ok well
[09:17] <Vanquish349> thia channel is impossible to talk on
[09:18] <ikonia> Vanquish349: what's up ?
[09:18] <theos> haha
[09:18] <LarsTO> i want using Gnome 2 ! or at least gnome 3 but not unity
[09:18] <theos> LarsTO, you can try the gnome shell for the time being
[09:18] <ikonia> LarsTO: gnome 2 is available in ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 10.10
[09:18] <LarsTO> in the next ubuntu editions... no possibility ?? only advice changing to xfce ?
[09:19] <saini> oblem
[09:19] <ikonia> LarsTO: use what ever desktop manager you like, all have pros/cons, gnome/kde/xfce/fluxbox etc, try them see what works for you
[09:19] <LarsTO> i want gnome
[09:19] <theos> LarsTO, (will be buggy) sudo apt-get install gnome-shell , gnome-shell --replace
[09:19] <saini> x11/keysym.h not found problem
[09:19] <ikonia> LarsTO: ok, so then you are limited to ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 10.10 for gnome 2
[09:20] <LarsTO> and ubuntu 11.04
[09:20] <LarsTO> it is also gnome 2
[09:20] <ikonia> LarsTO: that is upgraded to a later version of the gnome base
[09:20] <LarsTO> but not ubuntu 11.10
[09:20] <benzaldehyde> Are there any hotkeys like nano has ctrl+w to search through a manpage?
[09:20] <ikonia> 11.10 doesn't exist yet
[09:20] <LarsTO> yes i know
[09:20] <LarsTO> but i read any articlesa
[09:20] <benzaldehyde> and firefox has ctrl+f etc.
[09:21] <saini> x11/keysym not found
[09:21] <ikonia> LarsTO: then it's wrong - as 11.10 doesn't exist so people don't know what's available in it
[09:21] <MK`> since /home is empty I am just going to reinstall.
[09:21] <LarsTO> mh
[09:21] <ruan> theos: click the round button next to the sound
[09:22] <theos> MK`, you can try adding users and see before reinstalling. /home has users
[09:22] <MK`> see what?
[09:22] <theos> ruan, which round button? to select the desired alert sound? i tried but it doesnt select it
[09:22] <Karen_m> I installed openjdk and 'idea' complains.  it wants sun-jdk, how do I install sun-jdk
[09:22] <saini> hello
[09:23] <saini> hello
[09:23] <supraken> god damn't i love ubuntu
[09:23] <ruan> Karen_m: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[09:23] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I'm getting a little worried about my machine. It's not a bad spec, but the screen is starting to lag when I drag windows around
[09:23] <saini> x11/keysym.h not found problem
[09:23] <ruan> Karen_m: wait, jdk?
[09:23] <mikebeecham> ALMOST like windows when there are no driver files installed?
[09:23] <ruan> Karen_m: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[09:23] <ikonia> saini: what are you trying to do ?
[09:24] <saini> x11/keysym.h header file not found
[09:24] <benzaldehyde> i have heard that chromium is a fast lightweight web browser but i just want to throw in the ring a good word for Mirdori
[09:24] <Karen_m> ruan, i do aptitude search sun and it doesn't come up,trying that
[09:24] <ikonia> saini: what are you trying to do
[09:24] <ikonia> benzaldehyde: no-one is asking for browser opinions
[09:24] <Karen_m> E: Package 'sun-java6-jdk' has no installation candidate
[09:24] <saini> x- windoes programming
[09:24] <ruan> Karen_m: the partner/multiverse repos must be enabled
[09:25] <Karen_m> ruan, oh.. have a guide?  sorry lol
[09:25] <ikonia> saini: ok, so you need to install the X11 development packages for the headers
[09:25] <ruan> Karen_m: go to software sources
[09:25] <benzaldehyde> ikonia: that's rude, you misspelled summarize unless however you are from the UK :D
[09:25] <ruan> Karen_m: in system > administration > software sources
[09:25] <saini> tell me command
[09:25] <ikonia> benzaldehyde: it's not rude, it's pointless you making random statements like that, and I am from the UK
[09:25] <nunuyabiz> benzaldehydy I might try Mirdori.... Firefox is such a hog, I'm getting tired of it and Chromium is a hog too
[09:25] <LarsTO> ikonia: do you use ubuntu 10.10 gnome ? :)
[09:26] <ruan> Karen_m: then check the multiverse option (fourth option)
[09:26] <ikonia> LarsTO: it doesn't matter what I use
[09:26] <rodhash> Guys regaring my concern in installing gnome3, if some incompatibility occurs among the gnome3 and any of the softwares from my company.. is there a way to go back to the previous state?
[09:26] <LarsTO> ok
[09:26] <Karen_m> I don't have Software sources under that, hrmm
[09:26] <ikonia> rodhash: what pervious strate ? eg: gnome 2?
[09:26] <UbuntuUser> Hey guys, I would like to start using Linux... Could you maybe give me some more information?
[09:26] <benzaldehyde> ikonia: if one is to avoid making repititious statements about that which he seeks help for what other alternatives are there but to change the subject
[09:26] <rodhash> ikonia: yes
[09:26] <ruan> Karen_m: enable it from Main menu in system > preferences
[09:26] <ikonia> UbuntuUser: http://help.ubuntu.com is a good introduction to Ubuntu linux
[09:26] <ruan> Karen_m: or go to software sources from synaptic
[09:27] <ikonia> UbuntuUser: as is http://www.ubuntu.com
[09:27] <ikonia> rodhash: if there are no packages available for your distro, no
[09:27] <rodhash> ikonia: what do you mean?
[09:27] <avinashhm> Hi , is there any way to specifiy which all applications to run after a machine boots up ?? ex - i want xchat to be launched on a restart ... any way to do that ?
[09:27] <ikonia> rodhash: if canonical push out gnome3, but put gnome2 packages in the repos you can downgrade, if not, you're limited to gnome3
[09:27] <ruan> Karen_m: or run gksudo software-properties-gtk
[09:27] <rodhash> ikonia: so, can I back up the current packages installed and reinstall later in case of any issue occurs?
[09:28] <ikonia> rodhash: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[09:28] <nunuyabiz> rodhash I'm not gonna touch gnome 3 for a while. I'm sticking with LTS 10.4
[09:28] <rodhash> ikonia: 10.10
[09:28] <saini> command for install x11 package
[09:28] <ruan> saini: which x11 package?
[09:28] <ikonia> rodhash: ok, so 10.10 uses gnome2, so there shouldn't be a problem
[09:28] <Karen_m> ruan, the weird thing is.. multiverse is selected
[09:28] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: not a bad idea, LTS is released every two years?
[09:29] <saini> X11/keysym.h not found problem
[09:29] <nunuyabiz> every three years
[09:29] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: thank you
[09:29] <ruan> Karen_m: odd. what happens if you search it in synaptic?
[09:29] <rodhash> ikonia: Ok, lets say the gnome3 doesn't work fine with the softwares from my company.. how would I go back to gnome2?
[09:29] <Guest86223> is there any one who can help me for my kernel recompilation project??????
[09:29] <ikonia> rodhash: on 10.10 ?
[09:29] <ikonia> Guest86223: what's the question ?
[09:29] <rodhash> ikonia: yes
[09:29] <ikonia> rodhash: you won't have a problem with gnome3 as 10.10 uses gnome 2
[09:30] <saini> x11/keysym.h not found problem
[09:30] <rodhash> ikonia: I hope so, but I'm using a lot of softwares from my company.. and I'm worried if any of them gets any incompatibility
[09:30] <ikonia> saini: yes, and I've told you what to do
[09:30] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: and now, i am gonna wiki search to prove you wrong, because, i have no wife, uh uh i mean life :D
[09:31] <ikonia> rodhash: why ? 10.10 uses gnome2 NOT gnome3, so any problems with gnome3 won't affect 10.10 as it doesn't use gnome3
[09:31] <saini> command & process
[09:31] <nunuyabiz> benzaldehyde same difference
[09:31] <ikonia> saini: what ?
[09:32] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: my sentiments precisely
[09:32] <rodhash> ikonia: Sorry let me explain, I know it uses gnome2 but I wanna upgrade to gnome3.. and my concern is if there's a way to go back in case of any issue..
[09:32] <saini> how i can install it
[09:32] <ikonia> rodhash: remove the gnome3 packages, install the gnome2 ones
[09:32] <ikonia> saini: open the package manager, browser for the X11-devel packages and install them
[09:32] <ikonia> "browse"
[09:32] <rodhash> ikonia: ok.. could you give me some tips on how to do that?
[09:32] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: "It was decided that every fourth release, issued on a two-year basis, would receive long-term support (LTS)" -wiki
[09:32] <Karen_m> ruan, , OH I NEVER ENABLED THE KEY or something, it complained about the key
[09:33] <Karen_m> i did this, hopefully it works : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[09:33] <ruan> Karen_m: ok
[09:33] <nunuyabiz> rodhash make a clone of your system before you install gnome 3
[09:33] <ikonia> rodhash: open the package manager, install gnome3 packages, if you don't like it, open the package manager, remove the gnome3 packages
[09:33] <ruan> Karen_m: also, sudo apt-get install restricted-extras
[09:34] <Karen_m> ruan, what is that?  says "unable to locate package restricted-extras"
[09:34] <Guest86223> ikonia: i wanna add a vlc player along with kernel so that when i install the kernel than vlc player must also automatically install with it.
[09:34] <Karen_m> i finally have the sun version now!!
[09:34] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: i had heard a rumor that it was supposed to be every three years but then moses dropped the third tablet :D
[09:34] <Karen_m> maybe now all my issues will go away
[09:34] <nunuyabiz> benzaldehyde I guess your right 8.04 10.04
[09:34] <meera> hi, can someone tell me what grub is
[09:34] <ruan> Karen_m: hmm, now i cant find it
[09:34] <ikonia> Guest86223: that's not a good idea
[09:34] <Karen_m> ruan, what would it have done?  i will search google :)
[09:35] <ruan> Guest86223: you can package it with ubuntu
[09:35] <ikonia> Guest86223: plus, that's not kernel complilation, that's just creating a meta package
[09:35] <ruan> Guest86223: not sure about the kernel.
[09:35] <Guest86223> ikonia: but is there any chance to do it?
[09:35] <meera> tanks
[09:35] <MK`> Is it possible for me to create a swap file to supplement an existing swap partition if I add more ram?
[09:35] <MK`> and have ubuntu use both
[09:35] <ruan> Karen_m: it would've installed sun java, adobe flash, and other stuff
[09:35] <Guest86223> ruan: how give me the appropriate way?
[09:35] <ikonia> Guest86223: no, the kernel has no interest in vlc or awareness of it, you can however make a meta package
[09:35] <Karen_m> ruan, oh neat.. darn that package would have been nice..
[09:35] <rodhash> ikonia: How could I do that with apt-get or aptitude instead of the graphical package manager?
[09:35] <ikonia> Guest86223: a meta package is just a package that installs multiple subpackages
[09:35] <Guest86223> ikonia: how i can make it
[09:35] <ruan> !restricted
[09:36] <nunuyabiz> meera grub is a boot loader
[09:36] <ruan> hmm
[09:36] <Guest86223> ok
[09:36] <Guest86223> ikonia: ok
[09:36] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: I only just recently started to 'boon too' am i to understand that the previous mirrored the recent such as 10.04>10.10>11.04>11.10 therefore 11.10 ought to be the new LTS?
[09:36] <ikonia> Guest86223: you need to read up on how to make ubuntu packages, however I would strongly advise you not to do this
[09:36] <ruan> !remaster
[09:36] <Karen_m> ruan, let me ask you this.. i have "openjdk-6-jre" installed, and i tried to remove it in favor of installing the sun version but my 'freemind' depends on it.  Any idea how I do this?   swap one with the other?
[09:36] <Guest86223> ikonia: tell me the way of making it
[09:36] <ikonia> rodhash: same way as with the gui, add/remove the package names you want
[09:36] <ikonia> Guest86223: it's quite complex, you need to research
[09:36] <ruan> Karen_m: you don't need to remove it before using sun java.
[09:36] <Guest86223> ikonia:y? wats d reason behind it for not doing it?
[09:36] <ruan> Karen_m: i'm running sun java and openjdk fine
[09:37] <nunuyabiz> benzaldehyde no 12.04 will be the next LTS
[09:37] <Karen_m> idea says openjdk is terrible, that's why I wanted to get rid of it.  Ok i will install the sun version...
[09:37] <ruan> Karen_m: maybe it's ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:37] <ikonia> Guest86223: because they are not associated technologies, and the kernel packages should be updated by canonical, not you, which can cause a conflict
[09:37] <DND> hi guys how can i increase my cpu usage for testing?
[09:37] <Guest86223> ikonia: so there none other way to add any of the package with the kernel
[09:37] <Karen_m> do I use that... update-alternatives --config java  to enable sun over openjdk?
[09:37] <rodhash> ikonia: look:
[09:37] <rodhash> rodhash@rod-t400:~$ dpkg -l | grep gnome | wc -l
[09:37] <rodhash> 111
[09:37] <rodhash> There're a lot of packages from gnome2 installed.. Should I install all of them again if I decide to go back to gnome2?
[09:37] <FloodBot1> rodhash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:37] <ikonia> rodhash: yes
[09:38] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: seems inconsistant
[09:38] <ikonia> rodhash: however there is a metapacakge called "ubuntu-desktop" which will install the ubuntu desktop, which includes gnome2
[09:38] <ruan> Guest86223: you can add preinstalled packages with !remaster
[09:38] <ruan> !remaster | Guest86223
[09:39] <nunuyabiz> benzaldehyde nope 2 year..... like you said april of 2010 to april of 2012
[09:39] <ruan> Karen_m: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[09:39] <MK`> Is it possible for me to create a swap file to supplement an existing swap partition if I add more ram, and have ubuntu use both?
[09:39] <saini> where is package manager
[09:39] <Guest86223> ruan : u mean to say like redhat installation dvd we can cutomize the ubuntu cd with the packages
[09:39] <ikonia> MK`: sure is
[09:39] <MK`> ok :)
[09:39] <ikonia> saini: system->administrations->software
[09:39] <ruan> Guest86223: well, the link explains it
[09:40] <nunuyabiz> MK how much ram do you have now
[09:40] <rodhash> ikonia: wow, that's big work to do then.. :)
[09:40] <MK`> 1.5GB on the PC I am working with
[09:40] <rodhash> ikonia: 111 packages
[09:40] <MK`> the HD is only 15GB
[09:40] <Guest86223> ruan : ok thnx buddy
[09:40] <kth> hi - is there anyone who has some trouble in using "man" ? actually my apt says i've already installed man-db but also i should install man-db to be able to call "man" ? whats wrong there?
[09:40] <nunuyabiz> MK ram is usually so big that swap is not necessarily needed these days
[09:40] <ruan> kth: check your dependancies
[09:41] <MK`> and, it's a business PC. No games more intensive than tetris, limited video
[09:41] <nunuyabiz> MK if you do a 2 GIb swap you're pretty much set for life
[09:41] <MK`> most intensive program on it is probably libreoffice
[09:41] <kth> ruan: ? how should i do this? - executable "man" should be in "man-db" included or not?
[09:42] <ruan> kth: it should
[09:42] <ruan> kth: type "whereis man"
[09:42] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: i am often severely confused. however, April 28th marks my one year non-smoker anniversary. so it is kinda cool because as you may know all ready 11.04 goes 'stable'
[09:42] <nunuyabiz> kth are you saying that you do man commands and they don't work?
[09:43] <kth> ruan: it gives me : man: /usr/src/blcr-0.8.2/man /usr/bin/man /usr/local/man /usr/share/man /usr/share/man/man7/man.7.gz /usr/share/man/man1/man.1.gz - yes
[09:43] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: . . .  goes stable on that day
[09:44] <kth> ruan: also the man-db version seems to be correct - dpkg -l man-db gives me "ii  man-db             2.5.7-4"
[09:44] <nunuyabiz> benzaldehyde good thing it's not on April 1st
[09:44] <Guest86223> ruan: hey ruan is there any link which cud explain better that how to chnge the view and luk of ubuntu from each and every side
[09:44] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: if it were that would be kinda cool, one of my grand fathers died or was born on that day, can't remember which
[09:44] <ruan> Guest86223: you can preinstall themes, or use kubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu instead
[09:45] <Guest86223> ruan: no i wanna chnge it manually by just chnging the files,so is there any way
[09:46] <ruan> Guest86223: you can change the default themes or change default settings
[09:46] <Guest86223> ruan: ok so theres none othr way to chnge the luk and appearance
[09:46] <apena_> fola
[09:47] <apena_> hola
[09:47] <ruan> Guest86223: that's the limit of how you can really change themes.
[09:47] <ruan> Guest86223: you can change gnome's settings
[09:48] <shomon> how do I use ls to tell me the last few files modified in a directory tree?
[09:48] <shomon> or is there a better way than using ls?
[09:48] <Ycarene> Anyone know how well Gnome 3.0 works with oss?
[09:49] <kth> ruan: also update the mandb by invoking "mandb" as root is possible it says that there are > 9k entries - but it seems that the binary of man isn't there?
[09:52] <kth> ruan: i found the solution ... texlive has overwritten /usr/bin/man with a symbolic link oO
[09:52] <nunuyabiz> shomon maybe ls -time=word.......   check out the man page
[09:52] <A_I_> hello
[09:52] <A_I_> how can I know in debian/postinst if it is an new install or an update of my .deb ?
[09:52] <shomon> nunuyabiz,  hi, thanks - yeah I was trying to decipher that...
[09:52] <nunuyabiz> shomon or --sort=time
[09:54] <shomon> while I'm at it, ubuntu 10.10 isn't doing very nice cut and pastes. I like unix style, where it automagically copies anything I highlight, and pastes with a middle mouse click, but for some reason this isn't working since upgrading from 10.04
[09:55] <shomon> now I have to ctrl-shift-v and menu->paste to do it... is there a setting to switch this behaviour? or is it per-app?
[09:55] <mator> hello
[09:55] <shomon> hi
[09:56] <mator> how do i manage ubuntu daemons, which is started via /etc/init/*.conf files ?
[09:56] <cutout> hi I want to link an html folder to apache /var/www. how can I do that?
[09:56] <nunuyabiz> shomon ls -ltr
[09:57] <shomon> thanks nunuyabiz that worked fine!
[09:57] <nunuyabiz> shomon you might be able to customize hotkeys the way you like it
[09:59] <nunuyabiz> cutout what do you mean link it. I think what you are asking is that you just need to put the html in /var/www
[10:00] <nyuszika7h> Hi, I want to install MySQL, but I get this error:
[10:00] <nyuszika7h> E: Unable to locate package mysql
[10:00] <U8untu> hey i can`t install ubuntu from USB.. it says No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! ... and i have checked the MD5SUM and its the same..its OK..what`s the problem ?
[10:00] <ruan> !lamp
[10:01] <koltroll> Hey guys. Just booted up my ubuntu computer that's running 10.04. I'd like to update to 11.04. Is this possible through the update manager? I only get 10.10 as a option.
[10:01] <nunuyabiz> nyuszika7h what method are you using to install
[10:01] <ruan> nyuszika7h: try mysql-server
[10:01] <LarsTo> hello
[10:01] <LarsTo> should i install debian or ubuntu
[10:02] <ruan> LarsTo: it's a user decision, but ubuntu is best for beginners
[10:02] <U8untu> hey i can`t install ubuntu from USB.. it says No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! ... and i have checked the MD5SUM and its the same..its OK..what`s the problem ?
[10:02] <LarsTo> ok
[10:02] <LarsTo> i am using linux since 3 years @ ruan ;)
[10:02] <nunuyabiz> koltroll you must update to 10.10 before you can update to 11.4
[10:03] <nunuyabiz> LarsTo go to the debian chanel to ask that
[10:03] <ruan> !debian | LarsTo
[10:03] <koltroll> nunuyabiz, hm ok. Then I haft to make a decision what's faster. Downloading 11.4 make a clean install or make upgrades in steps... =) Thanks
[10:03] <nunuyabiz> yep
[10:06] <biborn> shcherbak: r u still there?
[10:07] <nunuyabiz> this is like the calm after a storm
[10:08] <biborn> is there ny suport for linux mint?
[10:08] <DJones> biborn: I think mint support in is #linuxmint
[10:08] <DJones> !mint
[10:09] <gaurav_help> while updating my system its shows me duplicate list entry
[10:09] <gaurav_help> how i resolve this
[10:10] <nunuyabiz> not sure I understand duplicate list entry
[10:10] <nyuszika7h> It seems I've accidently deleted Windows instead of FreeDOS :/
[10:10] <llutz_> gaurav_help: check your sources.list(s) and remove the duplicate entry
[10:10] <nyuszika7h> On turning on my computer, I see Ubuntu, Ubuntu (recovery mode), two memtests and FreeDOS.
[10:11] <gaurav_help> how i find the duplicate entry . and where is the list
[10:11] <gaurav_help> llutz, help me
[10:11] <dagon666> gaurav_help: /etc/apt
[10:11] <llutz_> gaurav_help: /etc/apt/sources.list(.d/*)
[10:11] <ExxonValdeez> hi all
[10:12] <nunuyabiz> nyuszika7h do you have a dual boot on your hard drive?
[10:12] <ExxonValdeez> does anyone know how to change empathy shortcuts?
[10:12] <ExxonValdeez> i know you can do it
[10:13] <ExxonValdeez> by pressing some keys and editing the shortcut in the menu
[10:13] <ExxonValdeez> just don't remember how
[10:13] <ExxonValdeez> and google is not turning anything up
[10:13] <gaurav_help> llutz, i cont't find any duplicate entry all list shows me first main then source code
[10:15] <gaurav_help> llutz, i cont't find any duplicate entry
[10:16] <nunuyabiz> gaurav_help what are you using to look at the file?
[10:16] <divya> bunty
[10:16] <llutz_> gaurav_help: if apt-complains about it,  theres one (most likely). look again, carefully
[10:16] <gaurav_help> error comes to me "Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ maverick/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_partner_binary-i386_Packages"
[10:16] <adnan> hello
[10:17] <Guest86223> is there anyone who is presently working for canonical?
[10:17] <divya> bunty  i have problem in installing canon mp250driver help me
[10:17] <divya> please
[10:17] <erUSUL> gaurav_help: check also files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory not just /etc/apt/sources.list file
[10:17] <gaurav_help> llutz, i list the error what i find and what i have 2 remove
[10:17] <Moopz> Hey. My PDFs load unusually slow. Every time I scroll to a new page it takes 5 seconds to load. Using Okular. Anyone have any clue why this is?
[10:18] <divya> gaurav_help i have problem installing canon mp250
[10:18] <divya> gaurav_help please help me
[10:19] <Chr|s> Moopz: could be memory, could be your graphics card
[10:19] <Chr|s> divya: did you enable your graphics driver?
[10:19] <gaurav_help> divya, see my personal note
[10:19] <divya> gaurav_help  where
[10:20] <gaurav_help> left side of ur pane of this xchat
[10:20] <gaurav_help> see just below #ubuntu
[10:20] <Moopz> Chr|s, I set Okular to aggressive memory usage, and I have 4GB ram so it's not that. I do use the proprietary FGLRX drivers for my ATI card though.
[10:21] <ohsix> Moopz: it could be that
[10:21] <Chr|s> Moopz: did you set it to aggressive before or after this problem
[10:21] <ohsix> Moopz: generating data "agressively" ahead of time, takes time
[10:22] <tester> Hi i need an older version of wuftpd installed in my ubuntu system and I cant install it because the bison/yacc in the system seems incompatible.
[10:22] <tester> Please have a look at this http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367070/
[10:22] <Moopz> Chr|s, I set it to aggressive to counter the problem but it doesn't work.
[10:22] <ohsix> Moopz: you could also see if the same thing happens in evince
[10:23] <fisch246> anyway i can get help with virtualbox? if not, can i be pointed to a place that will help me?
[10:23] <ohsix> fisch246: #vbox, but fair warning, i do not know if its a user support channel personally
[10:23] <sipior> fisch246: depends a bit on the sort of problem you're having
[10:23] <Moopz> ohsix, same happens in the default Document Viewer
[10:24] <tester> Any hints on how i can install wuftpd 2.6.0 on my ubuntu 10.04?
[10:24] <ohsix> Moopz: sounds like a challenge! :]
[10:24] <fisch246> sipior: has to do with the screen running past the bottom of my monitor, when switching to fullscreen...
[10:24] <sipior> tester: you could of course build it yourself, bearing in mind the risks of running an older version of a network service.
[10:25] <ohsix> Moopz: do you get a flurry of disk activity when this happens?
[10:25] <Moopz> ohsix, checking 2 secs.
[10:25] <sipior> fisch246: the guest monitor resolution is the same as that of the host?
[10:26] <fisch246> sipior: no it's smaller
[10:26] <tester> sipior, yes i am aware of it and am trying to build it on my own. However the make fails. Please see http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367070/
[10:26] <skpl> can someone tell me where to find the package automake1.8?
[10:27] <Moopz> ohsix, no unusual disk activity, however it overtook one of my CPU threads entirely and used it 100%.
[10:27] <ohsix> skpl: do you need 1.8 and 1.8 only?
[10:27] <erUSUL> !find automake
[10:27] <sipior> tester: was there a configure line before that?
[10:27] <skpl> ohsix: yes
[10:27] <sipior> fisch246: what happens if they are set to be equal?
[10:27] <tester> sipior, i just did a "./configure"
[10:28] <fisch246> sipior: if it helps i'm testing arch... and using the command "vga=842" on a "1366x768" screen
[10:28] <sipior> tester: would be nice to see the output of that.
[10:28] <tester> sure, one sec
[10:29] <ohsix> Moopz: ok, can you install linux-tools; run sudo perf top in a terminal, then switch pages in the viewer & tell me the top few entries in the output of perf
[10:29] <tester> sipior, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367073/
[10:29] <sipior> tester: could i also get you to pastebin the output of ./configure --help?
[10:30] <tester> sipior, sur
[10:30] <tester> sure*
[10:31] <Moopz> ohsix, System_call, copy_to_user, schedule
[10:31] <tester> sipior, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367075/
[10:32] <ohsix> Moopz: hm interesting; thanks
[10:32] <kubanc> is the ubuntu 11.04 gonna have gnome 3?
[10:32] <erUSUL> kubanc: no
[10:32] <erUSUL> kubanc: no by default anyway
[10:33] <dyd> hi all
[10:33] <skpl> does anyoen know  where to find the package automake1.8?
[10:33] <G00053> so i upgraded from 10.10 to 11 b and had huge problems , right now have no bars on top or side..
[10:33] <ruan> skpl: look for a ppa
[10:33] <erUSUL> G00053: 11.04 uses no bars/panels afaik. ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:34] <erUSUL> !11.04 > G00053
[10:34] <kubanc> erUSUL, thank you for you answer
[10:34] <Moopz> ohsix, what also annoys me that even after loading a page, if you scroll away from it, its already thrown it out of memeory and have to reload it.
[10:34] <xro> Hi, i'm looking for an rss reader... I want one i get let on my gnome desktop "like a widget" and with good looks... have you an idea? a google gadget?
[10:34] <ThePunisher60> hello
[10:35] <sipior> tester: nothing looks terribly out of the ordinary. you *might* consider modifying the makefile to remove the "-y" switch from bison. might be that the file is not compliant with the posix variant.
[10:35] <skpl> ruan: how do i do that?
[10:35] <ohsix> Moopz: well i wouldn't say that; it sounds like the drawing part is the slow part
[10:35] <ThePunisher60> hello everybody
[10:35] <sipior> tester: best bet really is to contact the maintainers, although i suspect they'll just tell you to run the latest version :-)
[10:35] <skpl> ruan: would it hurt my installation to use a package from a previous version of ubuntu?
[10:35] <sipior> tester: mind if i ask why you need this specific version?
[10:35] <fisch246> ah found the issue >.<
[10:36] <ruan> skpl: is 1.8 the latest?
[10:36] <nyuszika7h> (: I never knew gedit supported syntax highlighting... Nice!
[10:36] <ruan> skpl: it shouldn't hurt, but if you remove the latest you may have dependancy issues
[10:36] <sipior> nyuszika7h: i don't think you can call yourself an editor these days if you don't :-)
[10:37]  * erUSUL notepad FTW
[10:37] <itali-chan> THE VP8 and ogv. look bad, you can not encode better?
[10:37] <itali-chan> *it
[10:38] <ohsix> Moopz: i'm thinking of a simple way to see what it is
[10:39] <xro> nobody use a rss reader on the gnome desktop?
[10:39] <ohsix> not me
[10:39] <ohsix> lifrea is the one i've heard of t hough
[10:39] <chenkai> I have one, but I don't use it.
[10:39] <erUSUL> xro: i use google reader in the browser
[10:40] <xro> erUSUL, that is a good solution... but i would like to have it on the desktop... instead of that i miss a lot of them...
[10:40] <ohsix> missing rss feeds is the best part if feeds
[10:40] <erUSUL> xro: lifearea? rssowl? research in the ubuntu software center
[10:41] <ohsix> overwhelming yourself so you ignore triviality
[10:41] <Moopz> ohsix, personally I have no clue what it could be.
[10:41] <ohsix> Moopz: its probably the way its drawing
[10:41] <xro> erUSUL, i saw thiese name.. but they are not integrate in the destop like a widget
[10:41] <ohsix> is it just one file or all files?
[10:42] <mithran1> Hi all is there a command like top for ifconfig
[10:42] <mithran1> ?
[10:42] <Moopz> ohsix, All files. Not sure how I can change the way it renders the files..?
[10:43] <seek> hello
[10:43] <sipior> mithran1: ntop, if i understand your question correctly
[10:43] <ohsix> Moopz: you can't, but you can report the bug
[10:43] <sipior> mithran1: you're looking for a top-like network usage application?
[10:43] <Moopz> ohsix, but do we actually know what's causing it?
[10:43] <seek> sssssssss
[10:44] <ohsix> Moopz: i'm thinking of a way  to check
[10:44] <giannis> anyone know how to solve this http://pastebin.com/HrG7BEKu ??
[10:45] <d3vic3> seek: if you need help just ask :)
[10:45] <osse> I usually set up an SSH tunnel by running "ssh -fN hostname" but for some reason it doesn't work if I add that command as a startup application. Does anyone know how I can do this?
[10:45] <ohsix> Moopz: can you handle building a tool to record a drawing trace?
[10:46] <mithran1> mithran1: yes one of the computers we use has mulitiple network interfaces, and I want to get an updating list of the transmitted and received packets
[10:46] <mithran1> sorry sipior: i meant to send that to you
[10:46] <MK`> Strange question: the sole partition on this disk is /dev/sdb2. Is there any way for me to "rename" it to /dev/sdb1 without recreating the table?
[10:46] <vadviktor> mithran1, then you might wanna try Wireshark
[10:47] <Moopz> ohsix, no. While I consider myself fairly competent, that's well out of my reach.
[10:47] <ohsix> k, one moment
[10:47] <mithran1> vadviktor: but its too complicated, b4 i know it i have tons of packages, i want to monitor something on a long term basis, not to isolate an issue and analyse
[10:48] <vadviktor> mithran1, i see
[10:48] <mithran1> in specific i want to see the Tx and Rx of the interfaces
[10:48] <nyuszika7h> Hello! I have FreeDOS, Windows 7 and Ubuntu installed. On starting my computer, I can't select Win7. Could anyone help?
[10:48] <nyuszika7h> I installed Ubuntu after Win7.
[10:48] <nunuyabiz> MK sdb is usually a usb drive
[10:48] <MK`> it's a second harddrive
[10:48] <MK`> I want to rename it for ocd purposes
[10:48] <MK`> is this possible?
[10:49] <bigMike> helo
[10:49] <bigMike> hello, any good web app deployers here?
[10:49] <benzaldehyde> MK`: Obsessive Compulsive Disorder purposes? :D
[10:49] <iceroot> bigMike: wrong channel
[10:49] <MK`> yes
[10:49] <vadviktor> mithran1, would you like to log that data or just monitor the changes on a display?
[10:49] <bigMike> great
[10:49] <MK`> I want the first partition to be sdb1, not sdb2 :P
[10:49] <ohsix> Moopz: ok, install cairo-perf-utils
[10:49] <nunuyabiz> MK it may be possible, but probably not a configuration that ubuntu supplies
[10:49] <bigMike> what's the best approach to managing various apps, say most are based on ubuntu, mysql backed on each virtualised server
[10:50] <mithran1> Its a multipath, so I want to see which path it is running on, for a given policy algorithm over time :)
[10:50] <bigMike> but the apps are largely php driven joomla/drupal etc.
[10:50] <bigMike> some rails apps too.  Puppet or Landscape?
[10:51] <Moopz> ohsix, do I need a special repo? It's not in my standard ones.
[10:51] <mithran1> vadviktor: The policy determines which ethernet interfaces data runs on, i just want to see that policy in action...
[10:51] <ohsix> Moopz: hm let me look
[10:51] <nyuszika7h> ^^---Nobody can answer my question?
[10:51] <nunuyabiz> MK you could probably switch the hard drive cables, or reset the master slave switches on the drives one or the other
[10:51] <Moopz> nyuszika7h, what loader do you use?
[10:52] <ohsix> Moopz: ok, easy way to install it, use software center; otherwise enable the universe archive in software properties
[10:52] <nyuszika7h> Moopz: GRUB
[10:53] <MK`> No I mean... I have HDD /dev/sdb. I created 2 partitions on it, [/dev/sdb2][/dev/sdb1]. Then, I deleted /dev/sdb1, and merged it into /dev/sdb2. So now the only one has that name, and I want to rename it
[10:53] <nyuszika7h> It seems different than in older versions... it uses a console font.
[10:53] <vadviktor> mithran1, I don't think I can imagine right what you want, but I try to suggest one possibility:
[10:53] <Guest40566> Empathy 2.32.1 problem z połączeniem do serwera gg
[10:54] <HfX> How do I get color into ircii in ssh?
[10:54] <vadviktor> mithran1, I would use the watch command in combination of ifconfig and grep. watching the ifconfig data in some intervals and filter the lines with grep
[10:54] <Guest40566>  problem z połączeniem do serwera gg moze ktos pomoze
[10:54] <ohsix> MK`: that depends on the order of the partitions, if its not partition one i don't know theres a lot you can do besides break out a hex editor; you might get lucky if you read and rewrite the partitions with cfdisk or something
[10:55] <vadviktor> mithran1, specifically Tx and Rx, but I don't know how would I pipe the commands to filter that specific interface of yours
[10:55] <ohsix> HfX: you install a script that does it, ircII doesn't do _anything_ by default
[10:55] <Moopz> ohsix, can't find that software properties you're talking about.
[10:55] <MK`> it's the sole partition on the drive now, encompassing the entire thing
[10:56] <mithran1> vadviktor: ok let me try that
[10:56] <ohsix> Moopz: oh eh, it's software-properties-gtk, you can start it by itself or got to "software sources" somewhere in the synaptic menus
[10:56] <nyuszika7h> Moopz: So any ideas?
[10:57] <Moopz> nyuszika7h, get StartUp-manager
[10:58] <nyuszika7h> Moopz: where can I get it?
[10:58] <Moopz> ohsix, universe repo is enabled.
[10:58] <MK`> I'd need to hexedit the mbr?
[10:58] <Moopz> nyuszika7h, sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[10:59] <nunuyabiz> MK this is probably the closest you can get to doing what you want to do, but it would be tricky to to this on bootup
[10:59] <MK`> I have a livecd I can use to do it
[11:00] <artistik> im running pinguyos and my desktop froze. i can still move my mouse around but nothing else. i can access a terminal through ctrl-alt-f1. my question is how can i restore or restart my desktop enviroment without losing the documents i was working on?
[11:00] <nunuyabiz> MK you need to know where the kernel assigns the devices on bootup
[11:00] <sipior> MK`: if you're really brave, just delete the partition, and then recreate it *with exactly the same boundaries*
[11:01] <sipior> MK`: it probably goes without saying that you'll want to check on the status of your backups, etc.
[11:01] <MK`> it's an extended partition. If I deleted it it'd probably still delete the logical paritions inside
[11:01] <sipior> MK`: if the boundaries of the new partition are identical, i don't see the problem.
[11:01] <nunuyabiz> MK do you want to save what is on the partition?
[11:02] <MK`> it's a fresh install of ubuntu, so, no
[11:02] <zepherin> firefox runs slow on my laptop
[11:03] <nunuyabiz> just reinstall the more you do it the more you learn. if you do it again you will know ubuntu that much more
[11:03] <MK`> so if the entire drive were deleted I wouldn't lose anything. I just want to do something faster than reinstalling the OS
[11:03] <MK`> heh
[11:03] <MK`> well, I will learn by editing the MBR X)
[11:03] <ThePunisher60> hello
[11:03] <nunuyabiz> you are not going to find anything faster than reinstalling
[11:03] <MK`> and if that messes up the drive, I'll learn to/be too afraid to try that again
[11:03] <ThePunisher60> i'm new with ubuntu
[11:03] <MK`> heh
[11:04] <nunuyabiz> that will take you much longer
[11:04] <ThePunisher60> what can yu advice me for beginnig
[11:04] <bigmahat1a> hello. I added the text " noapic" to the file /etc/default/grub, in the line "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=". But, running update-grub, it says "noapic: not found". What to do?
[11:04] <ThePunisher60> anyone ??
[11:05] <MK`> what is a good hex editor? ThePunisher join #ubuntu-beginner
[11:05] <MK`> or #ubuntu-beginners
[11:05] <MK`> one of those 2
[11:05] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: with what?
[11:05] <ohsix> MK`: the hex editor was not a serious suggestion
[11:05] <MK`> haha
[11:05] <MK`> I just need to change a 2 to a 1 :P
[11:05] <ThePunisher60> thnx mk
[11:05] <ohsix> MK`: why do you need it to be sdb1? you should be using uuids not bare devices
[11:05] <tiox> Hai, n00b here to make fun of.
[11:06] <ThePunisher60> benzaldehyde 'm using backtrack 4
[11:06] <MK`> I have OCD :(
[11:06] <tiox> But seriously, I am a n00b when it comes to rebuilding packages and making programs from source.
[11:06] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: oh I see, testing your network?
[11:06] <ohsix> ThePunisher60: you'll have to go to their channel for support, it's not supported here
[11:06] <nunuyabiz> do a dd if /dev/zero of /dev/sda  count???? bs??? and start over
[11:06] <ThePunisher60> ah ok
[11:06] <tiox> I was told in a readme to get a 32-bit file and have it blt for my 64-bit system. How can I rebuild it for 64-bit?
[11:06] <ThePunisher60> yes benza
[11:07] <del_diablo> I have a trust tablet, how do I get it working with Ubuntu?
[11:07] <tiox> built*
[11:07]  * tiox smacks his keyboard
[11:07] <artistik> would someone help me with my earlier ?
[11:08] <artistik>  how can i restore or restart my desktop enviroment without losing the documents i was working on
[11:08] <Moopz> ohsix, I think I'll just have to live with it for now. Thought there might have been a quick fix but doesn't seem like there is.
[11:08] <Moopz> ohsix, thanks for your help.
[11:08] <sejo> can one revert to a base installation?
[11:08] <ThePunisher60> how cn i extract files n an encrypted rar file
[11:08] <MK`> I'll try repartitioning with the same boundaries.
[11:08] <ThePunisher60> ??
[11:08] <nunuyabiz> MK do a dd if /dev/zero of /dev/sda  count???? bs??? and start over..... that is soooo OCD!!
[11:09] <MK`> lol
[11:09] <ohsix> Moopz: well using a different driver will probably sidestep the problrm
[11:09] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: you could do all that in Ubuntu and i believe the alternate iso is a live cd, if i am not misstaken
[11:09] <Moopz> ohsix, so I should try reinstalling my graphics driver?
[11:09] <ohsix> Moopz: i was more interested in giving you info to file a bug about it, so it gets fixed
[11:09] <edwinkcw> I have a laptop CQ42-170TX, I want to connect it with my external monitor BENQ 22". But in monitor resolution setting, the max res. is 1280x768 only, but my monitor can support 1920x1080
[11:09] <MK`> if my ocd were bad enough I'd name the drive hdb since it's an IDE drive :P
[11:09] <edwinkcw> How can I fix it?
[11:09] <ohsix> Moopz: not reinstalling, using another one besides fglrx
[11:09] <nunuyabiz> artistik what program is your documents in?
[11:10] <Moopz> ohsix, are there others?
[11:10] <ThePunisher60> well i instlled it on my hard disk
[11:10] <artistik> thank you- libre office
[11:10] <ThePunisher60> i'm no longer working with the live cd
[11:10] <h3r0_> hi friend i want to ask something... why my nagios server cannot send to our email? but it can send email alerts to gmail and yahoo?
[11:10] <ohsix> edwinkcw: you need to add the mode manually because the monitors edid information is incomplete/incorrect
[11:10] <h3r0_> our company email
[11:10] <nyuszika7h> Is Firefox 4 available for Ubuntu? I tried to do "sudo apt-get install firefox", but it says firefox is already the latest version.
[11:10] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: one OS is as good as any other
[11:11] <edwinkcw> ohsix: may I know how can I add it? I didn't have much knowledge about this.
[11:11] <ohsix> h3r0_: that probably depends on how your company email servers are setup, you'll need to ask them
[11:11] <bboi> hi guys, im trying to run make menuconfig but im getting errors: invalid for RAR_REGISTER  and it says your display is too small to run Menuconfig how do i fix this
[11:11] <ThePunisher60> yes i know benza
[11:11] <del_diablo> nyuszika7h: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6339/how-do-i-install-firefox-4/6348#6348 take a peek
[11:11] <ThePunisher60> i just want to know how can i extract files from a rar encrypted archive
[11:12] <del_diablo> ThePunisher60: Install unrar?
[11:12] <h3r0_> oh... how can opmanager in windows can send to our company webmail
[11:12] <DJones> !ff4 | nyuszika7h
[11:12] <ThePunisher60> okay del_diablo
[11:12] <ThePunisher60> i find it in the package manager i guess ??
[11:12] <Moopz> ohsix, anyway, thanks for your help.
[11:12] <del_diablo> ThePunisher60: Yupp
[11:12] <ThePunisher60> okay
[11:13] <artistik> i have a terminal open by ctrl-alt-f1, just not sure how to restart or restore the desktop enviroment
[11:13] <ohsix> edwinkcw: i can't walk you through it, but i can tell you you use "cvt" and xrandr --newmode and then --addmode with its output
[11:13] <nunuyabiz> artistik what program are the documents in that you want to save?
[11:14] <artistik> libreoffice
[11:14] <edwinkcw> ohsix: thanks, because in the old day, there is a x11.conf
[11:14] <ohsix> yep
[11:14] <artistik> im having a hard time reading your name otherwise id type it
[11:14] <ohsix> edwinkcw: are you using nvidias binary driver?
[11:14] <nunuyabiz> artistic if you shut down your box hard kill libreoffice will restore your documnets
[11:15] <h3r0_> ohsix: thank you for replying
[11:15] <edwinkcw> ohsix: I am using Radeon propietary
[11:15] <ohsix> erh
[11:15] <osama> cv
[11:15] <artistik> what about sys-ctrl-alt-r-e-i-u-s-b
[11:15] <artistik> will that work
[11:16] <jwtiyar> how to get gnome 3 ?
[11:16] <nunuyabiz> artistic try it
[11:16] <artistik> i dont want to lose all my homework though. will it save it?
[11:16] <achillion> Has anyone had any experience running two distributions sharing one home directory? I suspect configuration files will be a mess but it could work, right?
[11:16] <nunuyabiz> artistic I used to know a way, but it didn't always work anyways
[11:16] <ohsix> artistik: does libreoffice save backups periodically? i think it does
[11:16] <ikonia> achillion: it will work the more important issue is how grub will work, in that with ubuntu 10.10 or later, it won't work well
[11:17] <nunuyabiz> artistik libreoffice will definitely save it, and from now on......ALWAYS BACKUP
[11:17] <ohsix> artistik: so if its been like 15 minutes you can just restart with shutdown -r now; then look for the backups
[11:17] <MK`> damn
[11:17] <MK`> I configured gparted to recreate the partitions exactly
[11:17] <achillion> ikonia: How would grub be affected? I'm on 10.04 currently; is there something special about grub on 10.10?
[11:17] <MK`> and when I ran the operation it did it the wrong way for some reason
[11:17] <ohsix> artistik: you can look in the dir where your file is in the shell & check if theres a backup there to be safe
[11:17] <nunuyabiz> achillion I do it all the time
[11:17] <MK`> so I need to reinstall P
[11:17] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: there are two unrar and unrar-free dunno which is pertinent, i suppose one could have both
[11:17] <ikonia> achillion: yes, grub2 doesn't have it's config file in a shared location for the 2 distros
[11:18] <ikonia> achillion: 10.04 will also be a problem
[11:18] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: and package rar to create rar
[11:18] <achillion> nunuyabiz: good to know :)
[11:18] <ThePunisher60> okay
[11:18] <artistik> well i was just working on a document and the desktop just froze, so how could i save a backup of something i was working on
[11:18] <ohsix> MK`: gparted does a lot more than edit partitions, that is almost secondary to the rest, i suggested cfdisk for a reason D:
[11:18] <ThePunisher60> but i didn't find any on package manager
[11:18] <MK`> Ah, i see
[11:18] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: add some repositories to sources.list
[11:19] <MK`> well, there goes my entire ubuntu installation :P
[11:19] <achillion> ikonia: I'm sure there's a way around that. nunuyabiz: how do you handle grub?
[11:19] <artistik> but its been more than 15min so if it periodically saves its self then i should be alright
[11:19] <ThePunisher60> what ??
[11:19] <jwtiyar> how to get gnome 3 ?
[11:19] <ohsix> MK`: but even then i didn't know if it would reorder them i was being dismissive and suggesting you merely ignore it D:
[11:19] <ikonia> achillion try it, there is not
[11:19] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: debian for sure, un# some of the restricted if there are resticated urls in the sources.list
[11:19] <hot_wheelz> can somone pls confirm if the us k42f-vx312v is fully support under 10.10 i am trying to establish this for a friend...Thx
[11:19] <nunuyabiz> ikonia I havn't done it with the latest grub
[11:20] <ohsix> ThePunisher60: you should really go to the backtrack channel
[11:20] <ikonia> nunuyabiz: I know, it won't work well
[11:20] <ThePunisher60> well benza i'm not very good with ubuntu so i don't really know that
[11:20] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: whereis apt
[11:20] <ohsix> edwinkcw: re: ati, i do not know if it does xrandr, if it doesn't you'll need to use xorg.conf or their control panel
[11:20] <ThePunisher60> ohsix i'm asking general ubuntu question
[11:20] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: find it then scoot boot'n'boogie
[11:21] <mang0> guys, can you run AVG on ubuntu 10.10?
[11:21] <artistik> ohsix: from a shell how would i save a copy of what i was working on
[11:21] <ohsix> ThePunisher60: backtrack is modified in a number of ways that the odds on asking a general question still has a bt perspective
[11:21] <ThePunisher60> well i'll drop it for the moment and after i'll llok for it again
[11:21] <ikonia> mang0: you shouldn't need it
[11:21] <mang0> or is there another good free virus/malware moniter that you can use?
[11:21] <mang0> oh
[11:21] <ThePunisher60> thanx anyway benza
[11:21] <nunuyabiz> MK now you know.... you never suck sdb1 into sdb2 unless you'r okay with being stuck with sdb2   see you're learning
[11:21] <mang0> ikonia: why not?
[11:22] <ohsix> artistik: basically, you can't; thats why i suggest you look and see if its doing periodic backups
[11:22] <ikonia> mang0: virus' don't effect linux in the same way as windows, so most virus scanning is worthless
[11:22] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: good luck to you
[11:22] <mang0> okay thanks
[11:22] <mang0> :)
[11:22] <ThePunisher60> ohsix can u give the bt4 channel link please
[11:22] <ThePunisher60> thnx benza
[11:22] <ohsix> !backtrack
[11:22] <ikonia> ThePunisher60: #bactrack-linux
[11:22] <ikonia> #backtrack-linux
[11:23] <ThePunisher60> thnx ikonia
[11:23] <ThePunisher60> good bye all
[11:23] <sunriver> Is anyone have a package of  "matlab for linux "?
[11:23] <ohsix> good luck
[11:23] <artistik> ohsix: oh in the logs? could you narrow my search down for me and give me a general area
[11:23] <ThePunisher60> thnx
[11:23] <MK`> yeah I am learning :D
[11:23] <MK`> ohsix it was a fresh installation, I had no files on it
[11:24] <nitso> sunriver, bc might help you ;)
[11:24] <sunriver> oh ,thanks
[11:25] <artistik> theres got to be a simpiler way to refresh my desktop- something like metacity restore, but that didnt work
[11:25] <nunuyabiz> artistik when you are forced to hard kill your box and you restart it, you will appreciate libreoffice that much more when it restarts and asks you if you want to restore the documents that you neglected to back up.
[11:25] <bigmahat1a> Could somebody suggest me a nice program for reducing power compsumption? Like for downclocking the CPU?
[11:26] <jwtiyar> how to get gnome 3 ?
[11:26] <nunuyabiz> I'm not trying to push you to hard kill your computer..... I'm just sayin
[11:26] <ohsix> MK`: oh well, then the simple solution is to wipe it out
[11:26] <MK`> yeah
[11:26] <MK`> I deleted the disk, am starting over now
[11:26] <ohsix> MK`: but its also prudent to start using uuids for volumes, as the names/numbers can be unstable berween boots
[11:26] <MK`> ok
[11:27] <ohsix> artistik: look in the same directory where the original files, look for one named <yourfile>.bak or <yourfile>~
[11:27] <nunuyabiz> MK dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb count=1024 bs=????
[11:28] <MK`> i don't know what dd does yet
[11:29] <nunuyabiz> artistic do you have access to a terminal?
[11:29] <MK`> !dd
[11:29] <nunuyabiz> MK you don't need to zero out the disk, it's just something that I like to do
[11:30] <[deXter]> MK`: copy data from/to a device at a low level, bit by bit.. amongst lot of other things, in this case, dd can be used to wipe a drive
[11:30] <ohsix> MK`: he's telling you of one way to clear the mbr
[11:30] <MK`> I nuked the disk before I installed Ubuntu
[11:30] <MK`> ah
[11:30] <MK`> ok
[11:30] <ohsix> (and a little bit past the mbr)
[11:31] <supraken> is there a table of contents for the man pages? or a list of all the man pages internally in ubuntu?
[11:31] <Panthera> hi there
[11:31] <ohsix> supraken: not really, but you can search aming the installed ones on your computer with "apropos"
[11:32] <ohsix> supraken: i think they're indexed in yelp too, or at least used to be :[
[11:32] <nunuyabiz> MK nuked? are you talkin dban?
[11:32] <Panthera> hi
[11:32] <Panthera> how can i host my own irc server ?
[11:33] <nunuyabiz> Panthera you sure can
[11:33] <iostream> Panthera: install an ircd
[11:33] <iostream> nunuyabiz: "how"
[11:33] <Panthera> ircd ?
[11:34] <MK`> some windows ap
[11:34] <iostream> irc daemon = irc server
[11:34] <iostream> Panthera: apt-cache search ircd
[11:34] <MK`> heh, I chose to not format, and it says "removing conflicting operating system files"
[11:34] <nunuyabiz> iostream run your own irc server
[11:34] <Panthera> Tanks
[11:34] <MK`> so maybe some files survived
[11:34] <iostream> TANKS!
[11:34] <iostream> beware of the tanks!
[11:34] <koltroll> I'm getting all crazy at the new menu - even tho I like it's look. Trying to move the icons around but 50% of the times it thinks I want to move the whole section of icons!
[11:34] <koltroll> gahh ^^
[11:35] <iostream> hi koltroll
[11:35] <edwinkcw> ohsix: thanks and I fixed my problem
[11:35] <iostream> that's because the object is a group of icons
[11:35] <ohsix> edwinkcw: good :]
[11:35] <LeanoX> i wonder where is position when use  apt-get install a program
[11:35] <skiwithpete> hi, in 10.04 is there a way to boot to command prompt?
[11:35] <Panthera> Wow 1544 users online
[11:35] <Panthera> this my first time on irc
[11:35] <nunuyabiz> MK yeah that removes all the addressing in the filesystem all the files are still there, but it's okay they will just be overwritten
[11:35] <LeanoX> in 10.10
[11:35] <skiwithpete> I've changed xinitrc and now I only get flickering
[11:35] <LeanoX> i wonder where is position when use  apt-get install a program in 10.10
[11:36] <MK`> ok
[11:36] <skiwithpete> can't even ctrl+alt + Fkeys
[11:36] <koltroll> iostream, heya! What do you use for coding ?
[11:36] <iostream> koltroll: nano, gedit
[11:36] <skiwithpete> just keeps flicking back
[11:36] <koltroll> iostream, ok :(
[11:36] <iostream> LeanoX: whereis
[11:36] <skiwithpete> is there a way to boot to command prompt?
[11:36] <iostream> koltroll: why?
[11:36] <iostream> skiwithpete: press CTRL+ALT+F1
[11:36] <karan> hello
[11:37] <skiwithpete> iostream, have done that - it just flicks back to failing workspace
[11:37] <karan> can any one help to me recompile the kernel with a new package integrated in it
[11:37] <iostream> skiwithpete: wonky.
[11:37] <LeanoX> iostream:yes ,where is ?
[11:37] <skiwithpete> eh?
[11:37] <iostream> LeanoX: no, whereis, it's acommand
[11:37] <LeanoX> i see  i try
[11:37] <iostream> a command
[11:37] <skiwithpete> iostream, can I get to command prompt via grub?
[11:37] <koltroll> iostream, why what? why I ask? Cause I want a nice coding app. vim/emacs/nano is not an alternative. And even though gedit is nice and all, it's just a simple texteditor. And eclipse is too much. I wan something in between. Gonna have a look at bluefish and see what that's all about.
[11:38] <iostream> koltroll: gedit is not just a simple text editor
[11:38] <skiwithpete> i know what I have to do, I just can't get to a prompt...
[11:38] <shomon> how do I go down a version from php 5.3.3 to 5.2.10 or whatever is newest?
[11:38] <iostream> play with the settings and you'll find a bunch of fancy stuff
[11:38] <shomon> on ubuntu 10.10?
[11:39] <koltroll> iostream, like some plugins, themes and "show line number" ? :)
[11:39] <LeanoX> iostream:thanks for your support .
[11:39] <MK`> this disk is a nice testbed anyway. it has like 33 bad sectors so I don't even know how long it's going to last
[11:39] <shomon> bluefish is a good in betweeny one... :)
[11:39] <iostream> LeanoX: np
[11:39] <iostream> koltroll: you don't need any third party plugins, no
[11:39] <skiwithpete> anyone?
[11:39] <iostream> koltroll: it's all in the software already
[11:39] <koltroll> The mission right now is to get my pc keyboard to act like it's a mac keyboard.
[11:40] <iostream> lol
[11:40] <nunuyabiz> koltroll I use bluefish only..... I love it   but it's a little more than just simple
[11:40] <skiwithpete> need a prompt, x keeps flashing because of failed xinitrc
[11:40] <benzaldehyde> shomon: if you want a different version the only way i know of to do it is to purge the package and install the one you want manually
[11:40] <koltroll> It's a pain working at a mac more or less all days and then switch back to a pc. So I'm thinking that if I can get the pc keyboard to act like a mac I'm all good.
[11:40] <iostream> that's not possible
[11:41] <iostream> install linux on your mac instead
[11:41] <koltroll> it -kinda- works now. But the "apple-key" is on alt-gr. I would've preferred if I could get it on the windows-icon instead. That would be ace.
[11:41] <shomon> benzaldehyde, that's fine I found a tutorial on randyfay.com/node/63
[11:41] <koltroll> Well of course it is possible? It's linux is it not?
[11:41] <shomon> lots of drupal folks have the same problem in 10.10 apparently
[11:41] <skiwithpete> here's how I'll solve it:  I'll put a liveCD in and boot to that - then I'll change xinitrc - unless there's a way I can boot to prompt...
[11:42] <koltroll> Right now I can do shift+altgr+8/9 to get {}
[11:42] <nunuyabiz> skiwithpete boot into recovery mode
[11:42] <koltroll> If I could just map alt-gr to the windows-button I'd be allt good :)
[11:42] <skiwithpete> how?
[11:42] <skiwithpete> nunuyabiz, how - 10.04
[11:43] <nunuyabiz> skiwithpete I don't remember but in previous versions you hit esc and you get the grub menu.... I'll google it just a moment
[11:44] <koltroll> when a window gets above the menu the menu goes away. How do I get it back without removing the window, and how can I set it up so that it doesn't go away ?
[11:45] <nunuyabiz> does someone remember how to get to the grub menu in 10.04...... in previous versions it was hit the esc key
[11:46] <skiwithpete> not anymore
[11:46] <DJones> nunuyabiz: Press & hold down left shift during boot
[11:47] <nunuyabiz> skiwithpete did you get that
[11:47] <bullgard4> Ubuntu installs by default an entry »gdm:x:119:« in /etc/group but without any operating system user. Why?
[11:48] <nunuyabiz> skiwithpete when you are in the grub menu, arrow down to the recovery mode and hit enter then make the proer selection. you may want to select drop down to root
[11:48] <skiwithpete> yep, seems to have done it
[11:48] <ohsix> bullgard4: files are owned by it, not having a user to access them is kind of beside the point
[11:48] <skiwithpete> how do you rena?
[11:48] <skiwithpete> sorry, how do you rename at prompt?
[11:49] <nunuyabiz> rename what?
[11:49] <txh> how do I set up to build for another kind of lixux while running another like ubuntu??
[11:50] <txh> any tips or links would be helpful
[11:50] <nunuyabiz> txh google remix
[11:51] <txh> search for remix?
[11:51] <nunuyabiz> yeah remix ubuntu or whatever distro you want to customize
[11:52] <ohsix> skiwithpete: "mv"
[11:52] <nunuyabiz> remix ubuntu or remix debian or whatever
[11:52] <Panthera> someone know when 11.04 will be out ?
[11:52] <DJones> !natty | Panthera
[11:52] <nunuyabiz> Pnathera in 4-11
[11:52] <Panthera> Oh only in the 28 =\
[11:53] <nunuyabiz> I think on the 28th
[11:53] <Panthera> and say can i keep the Gnome ?
[11:53] <gagware> a
[11:53] <Panthera> i dislike Unity
[11:53] <bullgard4> ohsix: You are writing a very complicated English. operating system groups are there to limit the access of files to certain operating system users, are they not?
[11:53] <skiwithpete> thanks nunuyabiz and ohsix
[11:53] <nunuyabiz> Panthera it will be gnome 3
[11:53] <ohsix> Panthera: grievance noted
[11:53] <koltroll> how the heck do I access settings for the menu ?
[11:54] <Panthera> it will be Unity interface they say
[11:54] <Panthera> i just hate it
[11:54] <ohsix> bullgard4: users and groups, they are separate & you can have sgid executables like you can suid ones
[11:54] <ohsix> Panthera: i meant to say, that's not really on topic, you could try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:56] <nunuyabiz> Panthera unity will be default, but you can chose another
[11:56] <sobersabre> hi.
[11:56] <sobersabre> I have asked this before and don't remember getting an answer.
[11:56] <Panthera> i know that i can change it
[11:56] <sobersabre> assuming I have user1 with admin rights.
[11:56] <sobersabre> I want to use that user's data/settings for another user.
[11:56] <Panthera> and what about GNOME Shell ?
[11:57] <Panthera> i will be able to use it ?
[11:57] <sobersabre> I copy /home/user1 to /home/user2, and then replace all the appearances of 'user1' to 'user2'
[11:57] <skpl> jhbuild build
[11:57] <skpl> er.
[11:57] <DJones> Panthera: For questions/queries about Natty, the best channel to ask is #ubuntu+1 which is its support channel until its released
[11:57] <sobersabre> still, when logged in as user2 and clicking update manager I am getting prompt for the password of user1.
[11:57] <nunuyabiz> yes I believe you will be able to use gnome shell
[11:57] <sobersabre> What do I need to change/update so I am asked for user2's password in that case ?
[11:58] <LjL> sobersabre: you have changed the owner and group for all files, yes?
[11:58] <sobersabre> yes.
[11:58] <Panthera> ok tanks
[11:58] <nunuyabiz> beware of tanks
[11:58] <sobersabre> LjL: the problem I think is that some things not in the user1's dir are getting changed. or maybe there are some databases in user2's files that still contain user1 references.
[11:59] <LjL> sobersabre: well i don't know, but maybe it's something in gconf, so why don't you try grepping for the old user name in ~/.gconf
[11:59] <sobersabre> I hoped somebody could here point me out where EXCEPT .gconf I can find these references.
[11:59] <sobersabre> LjL: I did grep there...
[12:00] <trungtruc> I need a help
[12:01] <trungtruc> I want to change DNS
[12:02] <adalal> hey
[12:02] <adalal> anyone here know how to refresh the gsettings for unity panel?
[12:02] <sobersabre> trungtruc: are you on a client machine and you want to make sure it uses a different dns server ?
[12:02] <trungtruc> yes, i am
[12:03] <ruan> adalal: ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:03] <trungtruc> I'm using Xubuntu server
[12:03] <adalal> ruan: thank...
[12:04] <cvam> In log file What is the log entry for deleting a file
[12:08] <cvam> I have removed or moved a file from original location.I want to recover it
[12:08] <LjL> i don't think file deletions are logged
[12:09] <cvam> LjL:I have removed or moved a file from original location.I want to recover it
[12:09] <aruns> can someone recommend a decent gaming mouse that works well in ubuntu ?
[12:09] <LjL> !recovere | cvam
[12:09] <LjL> !recover | cvam
[12:09] <ohsix> if it was in a package you can search for it with dpkg -S, or have debsums check all package files
[12:10] <cvam> LjL:I'm not sure that I've deleted. May be I've moved another location
[12:10] <ohsix> aruns: razer lachesis is my pet fav, i do not know about the status of tools to change the settings of the mice in linux though, i've never looked
[12:11] <LjL> cvam: well that's not logged either. if the actual file name hasn't changed, you can search for it using like "find / | grep filename"
[12:11] <yang2> Any idea how to use "ufw" firewall to redirect traffic from port 23 to port lets say 1000
[12:11] <ohsix> know your tools :S
[12:11] <yang2> i can only find manual for allow/deny rules
[12:11] <ohsix> yang2: i think it is only allow/deny
[12:11] <[4-tea-2]> Anyone else experiencing Liferea crashes (segfaults) on natty?
[12:12] <ruan> [4-tea-2]: you can ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:12] <cvam> LjL:Thank you,I've tried find command wrongly
[12:12] <[4-tea-2]> ruan: I was under the impression that natty was released?
[12:12] <nitso> yang2, did you try google? http://goo.gl/Thb16
[12:12] <ohsix> yang2: allow/deny/reject/log
[12:12] <ruan> !natty
[12:13] <DJones> [4-tea-2]: Not until 28th April, is just in beta until then
[12:13] <ruan> [4-tea-2]: yeah. april 28
[12:13] <[4-tea-2]> DJones, ruan: Ah, I see, thanks.
[12:13] <ohsix> yang2: you can probably use fragments of manual iptables commands in a manner where they won't be clobbered
[12:14] <nitso> !dapper
[12:14] <Memphizzz> Hi all, how do i access a connection in the terminal which was connected from Places->Connect to server?
[12:14] <jrib> Memphizzz: ~/.gvfs
[12:15] <ohsix> yang2: ooh theres a gem in the man page, check the man page for ufw-framework, it describes the hooks; ie. where you can put those custom commands
[12:15] <ohsix> !oneiric
[12:15] <Memphizzz> jrib, thanks!
[12:15] <PoNuts2> shall ubuntu go over to postgre as default DB?
[12:16] <ohsix> PoNuts2: there is no default db
[12:16] <jermy_> to test those certificates in linux
[12:16] <PoNuts2> doh (exp. from homer simpsson) ;)
[12:16] <ohsix> PoNuts2: and its down to what the package says it can use / suggests, not "ubuntu"
[12:16] <jermy_> oh !sorry
[12:16] <yang2> ok
[12:17] <aruns> ohsix, thanks
[12:18] <jermy_> How to set ip ubuntu
[12:18] <nyuszika7h> Hi, is it possible to override Ubuntu's titlebar with FF4's custom one?
[12:19] <GOMI> dont know why but my screen flickers ?!? first time is doing this
[12:19] <xorxorxorxorxor> what do you mean, title bar
[12:19] <atlef> jermy_: right-click the network icon in your taskbar and choose edit connections
[12:19] <trungtruc> how to install dns ubuntu ?
[12:19] <ohsix> nyuszika7h: ff should be telling the wm it doesn't want decorations, something in about:config probably controls that
[12:22] <kurrata> i did something and my text in eclipse got greyish background and everything in outline view has such diognal line over it. whats going on? http://postimage.org/image/1hf9myqn8/
[12:25] <bilal03> hello there
[12:25] <erUSUL> trungtruc: a dns server?
[12:25] <trungtruc> yes
[12:26] <bilal03> i've got a problem with my package manager i think
[12:26] <bilal03> anybody for help?
[12:27] <benzaldehyde> bilal03: i like help
[12:27] <benzaldehyde> bilal03: sometimes i --help the atm at the bank but it just hisses at me
[12:27] <phoque_uni> hey
[12:27] <erUSUL> !details | bilal03
[12:27] <phoque_uni> so Gnome 3 won't appear in Ubuntu?
[12:27] <bilal03> i got this error when i  want to install something via terminal
[12:27] <erUSUL> phoque_uni: no
[12:28] <phoque_uni> is there a way to add another source to apt so I can install it myself?
[12:28] <bilal03> bilal@gujjar-203:~$ sudo apt-get install docky
[12:28] <bilal03> Reading package lists... Error!
[12:28] <bilal03> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[12:28] <bilal03> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ci.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_restricted_binary-i386_Packages
[12:28] <bilal03> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[12:28] <FloodBot1> bilal03: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:28] <bilal03> bilal@gujjar-203:~$ ^C
[12:28] <erUSUL> phoque_uni: it may be a ppa with it in the future... ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:28] <benzaldehyde> bilal03: dude pastebin
[12:28] <DJones> phoque_uni: I believe there is a ppa for it
[12:29] <bilal03> Reading package lists... Error!
[12:29] <bilal03> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[12:29] <bilal03> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ci.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_restricted_binary-i386_Packages
[12:29] <phoque_uni> ah, right
[12:29] <bilal03> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[12:29] <phoque_uni> I read about PPAs somewhere
[12:29] <phoque_uni> I'll try that, thanks
[12:29] <phoque_uni> oh and Firefox 4? :-d
[12:29] <phoque_uni> :-D
[12:30] <DJones> phoque_uni: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/gnome-3-released-to-be-available-for-ubuntu-11-04-via-ppa/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+(Omg!+Ubuntu!)
[12:30] <FloodBot1> phoque_uni: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:30] <nyuszika7h> !ff4 | phoque_uni
[12:30] <erUSUL> !ff4 > phoque_uni
[12:30] <cvam> the output of ls command contains "Find Command Tutorial" ,But rm command on this directory fails
[12:30] <nyuszika7h> erUSUL: Nice, I didn't know it supports pms.
[12:30] <nyuszika7h> s/it/the bot/
[12:30] <erUSUL> cvam: rm -r is needed for dirs
[12:30] <phoque_uni> cheers, DJones, nyuszika7h and erUSUL!
[12:30] <cvam> erUSUL:Thank s
[12:31] <erUSUL> !cli > cvam
[12:31] <benzaldehyde> bilal03: that is weird
[12:31] <nyuszika7h> !ff4 > nyuszika7h
[12:31] <erUSUL> cvam: no problem
[12:31] <bilal03> 1
[12:31] <bilal03> 2
[12:31] <bilal03> 3
[12:31] <bilal03> 4
[12:31] <bilal03> 5
[12:31] <bilal03>
[12:31] <FloodBot1> bilal03: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:32] <benzaldehyde> bilal03: your partition might be filled
[12:32] <benzaldehyde> bilal03: one of them
[12:33] <bilal03> i cannot access ubuntu software center as well
[12:34] <bilal03> synaptic manager gives the same error while opening
[12:34] <r4y> hello
[12:34] <bilal03> no,, there is a lot of space available
[12:34] <phoque_uni> hmm... I've added ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable to my package sources but Synaptic won't show any packages from there
[12:34] <Barami> Hello :)
[12:34] <Barami> I have a question about unity.
[12:34] <r4y> hello
[12:35] <erUSUL> bilal03: try this 8 be carefull do nmot misspell ) « sudo cp -i /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status »
[12:35] <tjiggi_fo> !ask | r4y Barami
[12:35] <maxpn> how to install pyzmq-2.1.4 from launchpad.net?
[12:35] <Barami> In unity, How can i launch new window by left side bar ?
 it asks about overwrite
[12:35] <erUSUL> bilal03: say yes
[12:36] <erUSUL> bilal03: then « sudo dpkg --configure -a  »
[12:36] <bilal03> it done
[12:36] <kurrata> i made 1 files inactive somehow in eclipse, anyone knows how i can make it active again?
 completed
[12:37] <benzaldehyde> bilal03: try this sudo cp /var/lib/apt/lists/* /home | sudo rm -vf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[12:37] <nyuszika7h> ohsix: browser.tabs.drawInTitlebar is set to true
[12:37] <r4y> I am on a live disc of 10.04, I used Disk Utility to check this hard drive and it said it was clean but also says over on the right that Disk has a few bad sectors with a green dot next to it
 No command 'try' found, did you mean:
[12:38] <bilal03>  Command 'tty' from package 'coreutils' (main)
[12:38] <bilal03>  Command 'tr' from package 'coreutils' (main)
[12:38] <bilal03>  Command 'trn' from package 'trn' (multiverse)
[12:38] <bilal03>  Command 'trn' from package 'trn4' (multiverse)
[12:38] <bilal03>  Command 'trs' from package 'konwert' (main)
[12:38] <FloodBot1> bilal03: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:38] <Barami> If Aleady running terminal, How can run a terminal twice by side bar?
[12:38] <phoque_uni> what is wrong with him
[12:39] <atlef> Barami: try middle click on mouse
 it do it
 i do it
[12:39] <Barami> atlef, aleady clicked..
[12:40] <phoque_uni> bilal03, jesus, stop flooding!
[12:40] <Barami> but event not happened..
[12:40] <Barami> I'm using 10.10 maverick with unity.
[12:40] <Barami> it is mutter based unity
[12:41] <Barami> 0.2.46
[12:43] <pc-moon> hello
[12:43] <obscurant1st> i have connected to my system using ssh. Now I have to copy a file from the client to the server to which i logged in. How can i do that?
[12:43] <pc-moon> i wanna know how run python cgi ? i have ubuntu gnome
[12:44] <PoNuts2> chroot is it just to add an extra / in passwd?
[12:45] <susundberg> if you mean chroot as command its something different than passwd file: http://linux.die.net/man/2/chroot
[12:45] <Barami> Hm...
[12:46] <Hugo> Hi, does anyone know how I can manually get my Wireless driver in Ubuntu without having to go on the Internet? I've tried using ethernet but it won't work. (Ubuntu 11.04 Beta)
[12:46] <rob_p> obscurant1st: sftp user@host  <--- After that, it's very similar to FTP command syntax
[12:46] <jussi> I have a raid disk, and I am now in the live cd. How do I mount the disk?
[12:46] <obscurant1st> rob_p, oh ok thanks!
[12:47] <susundberg> jussi: with standard mount command, but you might need to get some raid-tools / drivers -- could you specify your problem?
[12:47] <Barami> In unity 0.2.46 (official package of maverick), Does not support launch program by middle click on icon?
[12:47] <madoo> hi evry one there
[12:47] <susundberg> Hugo: Ether would be the simplest choise, any idea why it does not work?
[12:48] <jussi> susundberg: the raid drives didnt turn up in places, so Im wondering where to find them. they do appear in fdisk -l though.
[12:48] <rob_p> obscurant1st: Perhaps I should clarify... start a new terminal session and do, "sftp user@host" and once logged in, you will have a prompt at which you can put, get, list, etc.  Hope that helps.
[12:48] <susundberg> Hugo: other options are to download the needed packages on other machine and transfer them via some other medium, like usb stick
[12:48] <Hugo> susundberg: It worked before when I had a problem using the Internet on Ubuntu 10.10, I don't know why it doesn't seem to be working this time.
[12:48] <Fearless13> Is it possible with apt to download the .deb and all dependencies if possible?
[12:48] <Hugo> susundberg: How would I go about downloading the packages onto my Windows partition?
[12:49] <cutout> I want to link a folder to apache server, how can I do that?
[12:49] <benzaldehyde> Hugo: did you tell it to issue an ip through dhclient
[12:49] <obscurant1st> rob_p, the 1st reply was ok, i got it! :) thanks
[12:49] <rob_p> obscurant1st: cool, just makin' sure... :)
[12:49] <susundberg> jussi: 'mount /dev/my_raid_device_here /mnt/' should work
[12:49] <Hugo> benzaldehyde: No, not that I know of. It picked up the cable but wouldn't let me use the internet?
[12:49] <cutout> can anyone help me plz?
[12:49] <obscurant1st> rob_p, :)
[12:49] <susundberg> (though i guess usually one wants to use /mnt/my_raid_id/)
[12:50] <jussi> susundberg: hrm, do I use the first raid device or the second?
[12:50] <benzaldehyde> Hugo: connect the modem to your computer sudo ifconfig eth0 up then sudo dhclient eth0
[12:50] <susundberg> You should mount _partitions_ not devices
[12:50] <susundberg> like /dev/sda1 not /dev/sda
[12:51] <ohsix> susundberg: unless the device has no partition & is a raw volume
[12:51] <benzaldehyde> Hugo: if it does not connect try a different ethernet cable
[12:51] <Hugo> benzaldehyde: Thanks, I'll try that now although I will have to reboot, I may be back unless your solution fixes the problem, thanks!
[12:51] <dyd> anyone knows the solution to this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1712869
[12:51] <susundberg> ohsix: but surely you cannot mount raw volumes?
[12:51] <soreau> ! mount
[12:51] <cutout> html.setData(Constants.Elements.TYPE, Constants.Elements.COMBO_BOX);
[12:51] <cutout> I want to link a folder to apache server, how can I do that?
[12:52] <Fearless13> ikonia: you're my guy !
[12:52] <ohsix> susundberg: sure; theres no distinction between a block device and how you mount it, partitions just let you slice it up
[12:52] <ikonia> Fearless13: ?
[12:52] <Fearless13> ikonia: by downloading with apt, is it possible to get the .deb that it has downloaded?
[12:52] <jussi> susundberg: Is it going to break something if I mount the wrong one?
[12:52] <ikonia> it sticks it in the apt cache folder, you can also dell apt to download and not install, so it just downloads the package
[12:53] <ohsix> susundberg: you can have partitions on loob block devices too :]
[12:53] <Fearless13> :|
[12:54] <susundberg> jussi: no it will not. but writing on the mounted directory disk will make changes to original disk
[12:54] <susundberg> afaik mounting is safe -- though always backup your data
[12:54] <ohsix> susundberg: or partitions in partitions, but linux won't number them automatically, point is storage is storage, partitioning lets you break it up into sections, lvm lets you resize & combine sections
[12:54] <jussi> hrm
[12:54] <ohsix> susundberg: mounting is not safe if logs are replayed on mount
[12:55] <jussi> its giving me "mount: unkown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'"
[12:55] <benzaldehyde> ohsix: couldn't one send the logs to /dev/null, 2>/dev/null ?
[12:55] <ohsix> jussi: md or lvm is supposed to be putting those together for you, why aren't they assembling?
[12:56] <jussi> ohsix: Ive no idea. Ive a broken system that I want to try repair from the live cd. but its a bit hard when the volumes dont mount.
[12:56] <ikonia> jussi: this isn't a fake raid device is it
[12:57] <Insecticide> hey
[12:57] <ohsix> jussi: mounting and assembly are separate phases, what kind of volume is it?
[12:57] <jussi> ikonia: its possible, Im not certain of the setup completely. is there a way to tell?
[12:57] <benzaldehyde> Insecticide: :)
[12:58] <Insecticide> wow a chat room that talks lol
[12:58] <ikonia> jussi: sure, is this a true server platform or a "PC" / desktop platform ?
[12:59] <Insecticide> Im runnin ubuntu 10.04 how dose 10.10 compair ?
[12:59] <jussi> ikonia: its pc based methinks
[12:59] <ohsix> Insecticide: you can run it from a livecd if you want to do comparisons
[12:59] <rsaidan> hi all, i'm trying to run add-apt-repository behind a proxy but it doesn't seem to work. i've added the http_proxy var to bashrc and configured the proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/80proxy but still no joy. I saw some similar issues online with no solutions, does anyone have experience with this?
[13:00] <benzaldehyde> Insecticide: You are on a long-term support release
[13:00] <Insecticide> yeah i know but kinda wanted to get opions befor i burn a Iso
[13:00] <benzaldehyde> Insecticide: 10.10 is stable but not a LTS
[13:00] <ohsix> opinions are fickle things
[13:01] <ohsix> Insecticide: you can use usb-creator to put it on a usb drive too
[13:04] <adit> test message
[13:04] <arcsky> hello if i want to write anything in welcome message/ascii figure  to openssh where can i do it then ?
[13:04] <ohsix> arcsky: /etc/issue
[13:06] <benzaldehyde> arcsky: that reminds me i want to put a little ascii art into my boot sequence
[13:06] <benzaldehyde> :D
[13:06] <arcsky> ohsix: doesnt work
[13:07] <ohsix> arcsky: works for me
[13:07] <Insecticide> im lookin for better wine where do i go ?
[13:07] <ohsix> Insecticide: a sommelier
[13:08] <seravitae> hi guys, my 10.10 machine was working fine a few hours ago, then i let some packages update, now my pc won't boot. i get a purple 640x480 screen briefly, then, nothing. i don't even know where to start looking as to why this occured
[13:08] <seravitae> i'm currently booted off a usb ubuntu 10.10 live usb stick that i used to install. any ideas where to start looking?
[13:08] <wwwd> ohsix: I was thinking Norhtern CA
[13:08] <ohsix> seravitae: sounds like grub got FUBAR
[13:09] <seravitae> ohsix: nah im sure its getting past grub, the purple screen is def ubuntu loading, just before the 'good' framebuffer' loads
[13:09] <Gent> Does anyone know of Natty is gonna ship with gnome3?
[13:09] <coz_>  good day all
[13:09] <seravitae> but im happy to try anything. i need this box up really soon
[13:10] <ohsix> seravitae: then boot it without "quiet splash" and read the boot messages
[13:10] <seravitae> ok, ill try to do that - though, i dont get a grub menu so i'm not sure how to add the arguments
[13:10] <Gent> anyone at all?
[13:10] <c0nsense> Hello! i have an iPod Touch 2G, when i plug this on ubuntu 10.10 show this message: http://pastebin.com/5D1wiUa2
[13:10] <seravitae> it just loads instantly
[13:10] <Insecticide> na im talking wine for the os
[13:10] <Pici> Gent : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[13:11] <benzaldehyde> arcsky: http://patorjk.com/software/taag/