[12:01] <_Sean> ty
[12:01] <adaptr> mister_roboto: yes, I understand
[12:01] <zYe> and i also got the theme at gnome-look.org
[12:01] <mister_roboto> adaptr: but he should be using side effects like that when he's using the variable multiple times in the same expression
[12:01] <mister_roboto> shouldn't, i mean :)
[12:01] <adaptr> shouldn't ?
[12:01] <n2diy> Spee_Der, Xastir?
[12:01] <adaptr> I knew that
[12:01] <morpheus74> when I want to search using apt-cache, do I just type apt-cache unix2dos?
[12:01] <Brandano> _Sean: depends. FAT is fine, but AFAIK ntfs support is still experimental for writing, and that's why it's disabled by default
[12:01] <gh0st> help, i lost my boot splash screen (where ubuntu's progress is showed)! how can i reset it?
[12:01] <Spee_Der> n2diy: Yes, always on.
[12:01] <jrib> morpheus74: apt-cache search foo
[12:01] <adaptr> morpheus74: use search.. man apt-cache
[12:01] <jrib> !apt | Spee_Der
[12:01] <ubotu> Spee_Der: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:01] <juano> TheoMurpse: did you try sudo dhclient ra0?
[12:01] <_Sean> yeah, im using ntfs :-/
[12:01] <n2diy> Spee_Der, ditto here.
[12:02] <_Sean> I just want to be able to change info on my media files
[12:02] <Spee_Der> n2diy: Okay, see you on APRS also. Thanks.
[12:02] <jrib> morpheus74: erm that link above was for you ^
[12:02] <juano> Shaba1: yes, ask your questions
[12:02] <Brandano> You can set apart a FAT partition for data exchange, or enable NTFS write support at your own peril
[12:02] <_Sean> yeah...
[12:02] <morpheus74> jrib: Sorry, didn't see it.
[12:02] <jrib> morpheus74: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[12:02] <SAMMI> Hi everibody again...
[12:02] <n2diy> Spee_Der, Ok, that is a long haul for me, I'm not seeing anything east of Manhattan, 73
[12:02] <TheoMurpse> adaptr: so you are telling me I need to use windows drivers for wpa_supplicant via ndiswrapper even though I have a perfectly fine OSS driver for my card already? Because I use rt2500 and not one of the prism, madwifi, atmel or other offered driver through wpa_supplicant
[12:02] <_Sean> Is there a way to have numlock defaulted at the gnome log in screen?
[12:02] <SAMMI> My question:
[12:02] <Brandano> Ciao SAMMI
[12:03] <adaptr> TheoMurpse: no, I corrected that.. scroll up :)
[12:03] <Shaba1> Ok can you get back the space that you dedicated to a unbuntu( or any linux) partition and not have it be seperate drive like c: d:
[12:03] <SAMMI> Italiano...
[12:03] <Shaba1> that is what I most want
[12:03] <adaptr> Shaba1: there are no separate drives in ubuntu
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> !it | SAMMI
[12:03] <ubotu> SAMMI: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:03] <Spee_Der> n2diy: Okay. I just did a station look, no answe. I am on the new england server.
[12:04] <Spee_Der> n2diy: I will open another port for the n.y. area and see if you show up there also.
[12:04] <Shaba1> I know I am going to need windows for work. and I would liek to try unbuntu on my HD BUT I know that soonner or later I am going to have to take unbuntu OFF my hard drive and get back the space for windwos
[12:04] <zYe> can anyone tell me why every time i try to install a theme it says "the file format is invalid"
[12:04] <Brandano> It's seen as bad netiquette talking in gobbledigook in international channels
[12:04] <juano> !wireless
[12:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:04] <TheoMurpse> adaptr: Oh yeah. Gotcha. I'm trying how to work wpa_supplicant right now. It's quite confusing. I don't see my driver on the list of drivers I can use when I do "wpa_supplicant" from the cmd line. Looks like I still have to use ndiswrapper
[12:04] <n2diy> Spee_Der, RR, I didn't set up any servers, strictly RF.
[12:04] <Shaba1> I know that juano that was not my question
[12:04] <_Sean> !numlock
[12:04] <ubotu> To enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[12:04] <Spee_Der> n2diy: qsl.
[12:04] <_Sean> yes!!
[12:04] <zYe> i guess no one else ever has had that problem eh
[12:04] <juano> !wireless | TheoMurpse
[12:05] <ubotu> TheoMurpse: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:05] <Spee_Der> n2diy: many 73 for now, chow time.....
[12:05] <SAMMI> No problem. Probably my english is better tan my italian... I'm back from a Xubuntu session: if somebody wants i can list my  cat /proc/cpuinfo and meminfo and lshw...
[12:05] <adaptr> Shaba1: resize windows so you have ~10GB free at the *end* of the drive, then put ubuntu there
[12:05] <n2diy> Spee_Der, 73
[12:05] <Spee_Der> n2diy: Nice to see you are still here and assisting... Cheers mate....
[12:05] <adaptr> Shaba1: you will have to restore the windows boot loader when you remove ubuntu, but that's easy
[12:05] <Shaba1> that was not the question either
[12:05] <tonyyarusso> !away | Spee_Der
[12:05] <ubotu> Spee_Der: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[12:05] <Shaba1> let me repeat it
[12:05] <Brandano> SAMMI: doubt that anyone actually wants, but you should be able to gather your CPU freq from there
[12:05] <adaptr> Shaba1: yes, it was
[12:06] <juano> Shaba1: whats your question?
[12:06] <Shaba1> juano :  Ok can you get back the space that you dedicated to a unbuntu( or any linux) partition and not have it be seperate drive like c: d:
[12:06] <Brandano> and that should be enough to see what memory you should be getting
[12:06] <LjL> i've got an USB->IrDA adapter (MA-620 chip, lsusb says), by running irattach with device /dev/ttyUSB0 (apparently, it behaves like a serial adapter) i can get irdadump to see discovery packets from other devices, but i cannot transfer a file via OBEX (tried ircp, obexftp, irpsion5, irxfer...) - the error is "no route to host", when there is an error
[12:06] <SAMMI> Not CPU freq: I want to know RAM's freq!!!
[12:06] <Sum> Hey Room, does anyone know how to get Ypops working or something to pop3 access yahoo mail
[12:06] <juano> Shaba1: you want to erase ubuntu partition and get it back for windows?
[12:06] <Shaba1> I did not mean you adaptr I was responding to juano
[12:06] <adaptr> Shaba1: asked and *answered*
[12:06] <Shaba1> Yes
[12:06] <faeryNatsuki> i have a weird question
[12:06] <Brandano> SAMMI: for SDRAM it's the same
[12:07] <adaptr> Shaba1: gparted ( the partitioning tool that ubuntu uses) can resize and also restore NTFS partitions, so you can use it both ways
[12:07] <Shaba1> I know you can do that with Partition Magic I just do not want to spend $69
[12:07] <faeryNatsuki> could i have an openoffice problem related to gtk them in use?
[12:07] <juano> Shaba1: go into partition magic in windows and just edit win partition and slide it all over the ubuntu partition
[12:07] <faeryNatsuki> i mean
[12:07] <Brandano> the FSB ferquency matches the memory
[12:07] <SAMMI> ouch...
[12:07] <adaptr> juano: nice advice there, dude
[12:07] <TheoMurpse> What I don't understand is why wireless would work right out of the box on the LiveCD, but then fail from moment 0 once Ubuntu is installed to the hard drive. Kinda false hope, right?
[12:07] <faeryNatsuki> could my openoffice crash because something of my gnome theme?
[12:07] <SAMMI> interesting...
[12:07] <bruenig> Shaba1, on the installation disk for windows, there should be a partitioning part
[12:07] <bruenig> Shaba1, where you can erase it
[12:07] <Sum> Anyone? any ideas to pop access Yahoo mail?
[12:07] <juano> adaptr: partition magic deletes the partition first then asigns it to windows
[12:07] <Brandano> Well, DDR is Double Data Rate, so it goes at double the speed of the FSB
[12:07] <adaptr> bruenig: you cannot use the windows partitioner to resize a partition
[12:08] <bruenig> but you can delete it
[12:08] <Brandano> SDRAM goes the same speed as the FSB
[12:08] <adaptr> juano: partition magic is evil, also not free - gparted does a fine job
[12:08] <pppl> any kernel-compilation-specialists around here or is there a special channel for kernel-questions?
[12:08] <Shaba1> juano as I asked first. I was asking about Partition LOGIC (freeware) NOT Partition MAGIC($69)
[12:08] <adaptr> Brandano: with some *major* caveats, yes
[12:08] <bruenig> Shaba1, ever heard of bittorrent...
[12:08] <adaptr> Shaba1: neither; the Ubuntu CD has everything you need
[12:08] <juano> Shaba1: delete your ubuntu partitions with any partition editer
[12:08] <juano> Shaba1: then edit your win partition
[12:08] <Brandano> adaptr: oversimplifyng maybe
[12:08] <Sum> Mayb another time/day
[12:09] <juano> Shaba1: and slide it over the remaining free space
[12:09] <juano> Shaba1: this will resize the partition
[12:09] <Brandano> SAMMI: btw, is this a desktop or a laptop pc?
[12:09] <juano> Shaba1: ive done this with partition magic and gparted never with partition logic , cause i never used it but it shouldnt be that different
[12:09] <adaptr> Brandano: no, true for most new systems, but it used to be quite complicated.. and still is, if you have a 1066FSB P4 system that uses DDR2 667 at 1.32something clockrate
[12:09] <_Sean> Is there a way to add "Run as root..." or something to the right click menu?
[12:09] <Shaba1> yeah but will it affect the data I already have on that winodws partition is my point
[12:10] <SAMMI> So, if i want to gat another RAM pack, what kind i'd search? Desktop
[12:10] <Rosh_Keifer> I'm trying to access an external USB hard drive, but I can't see what device it's mounted at... Where would it be? The hard drive is SCSI, so sda1-3 are that. There are no other sd* things, and there aren't any ub* devices either. Any ideas?
[12:10] <Brandano> adaptr: we are talking about an old celeron here
[12:10] <Shaba1> I want to give all that space BACK to the C: drive
[12:10] <adaptr> _Sean: hit Alt-F2 and type "gksudo <your-command>"
[12:10] <SAMMI> Yes, celeron MHz
[12:10] <Brandano> SAMMI: SDRAM? I think you'd be fine with any 133 module anyway
[12:10] <adaptr> Brandano: ah.. in that case, certainly
[12:10] <_Sean> Hm, that does make it easier.
[12:10] <juano> Shaba1: if you delete your ubuntu partitions, nothing to windows will happen, EXCEPT, you need to reinstall the windows bootloader
[12:10] <Brandano> even though probably the PC is a 66 mhz machine
[12:10] <_Sean> But is there a right click sort of thing?
[12:11] <juano> Shaba1: do you have the windows CD at hand?
[12:11] <adaptr> Brandano: SAMMI: yes, SDRAM is fully downwards compatible
[12:11] <andcor> Rosh_Keifer: doesn't dmesg tell you which device it's connected to ?
[12:11] <adaptr> Shaba1: no, it won't affetc anything
[12:11] <SAMMI> SDRAM, yes, an yes,  mhz machine
[12:11] <Shaba1> adaptr what programs on the Ubuntu cd
[12:11] <Atom-> !falcon
[12:11] <SAMMI> SDRAM, yes, and yes,  mhz machine
[12:11] <_Sean> join #twinview
[12:11] <ubotu> falcon: Falcon repository creator. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy-seveas), package size 175 kB, installed size 508 kB
[12:11] <adaptr> Shaba1: gparted, what you use to create partitions for ubuntu
[12:11] <Brandano> The real question is, why do you want to upgrade the memory on that machine? SDome deep sentimental value?
[12:11] <Shaba1> and take into account you are talking to a pretty knowlegeble windows person.
[12:11] <SAMMI> SDRAM, yes, and yes,  66mhz machine
[12:11] <juano> adaptr: it will affect his booting if he deletes the ubuntu partitions
[12:11] <juano> adaptr: grub is part of ubuntu not windows
[12:11] <SAMMI> Yes... I love old machine
[12:11] <adaptr> Shaba1: you use it when you install ubuntu, and you can just run it standalone from the LiveCD as well
[12:11] <Brandano> You can probably get a better PC in the "gifts" section of Porta Portese
[12:12] <Shaba1> I just like some of the things I see in ubuntu and would like to install it to HD on this laptop
[12:12] <_Sean> adaptr: Is there a right click sort of thing?
[12:12] <juano> Shaba1: you need the windows cd, do you have it?
[12:12] <ikonia_> could someone please act as a second set of eyes for an ssh key issue on ubuntu
[12:12] <Shaba1> BUT work requiers me to have windows so I know sooner or latter I will need that HD space back
[12:12] <SAMMI> Really, but it's my first PC...
[12:12] <adaptr> juano: I already told him he needs to restore his windows boot loader when he removes Ubuntu
[12:12] <juano> adaptr: ok :) didnt see your message
[12:12] <adaptr> Shaba1: you're not going to remove windows ?
[12:12] <TheoMurpse> I'm reading about wireless, and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo tells me that there is a "Network Manager" icon on the Gnome Panel. Is this the same thing as a "Network Monitor" because I have no "Network Manager."
[12:12] <SAMMI> ...it's like the first love...
[12:12] <DARKGuy> Whee I'm back
[12:13] <juano> TheoMurpse: try running nmapplet
[12:13] <_Sean> Is there some sort of "Save As Root" option for any text editor then?
[12:13] <TheoMurpse> juano I don't have "nmapplet"
[12:13] <adaptr> _Sean: no
[12:13] <_Sean> :(
[12:13] <Brandano> SAMMI: well, any 133 mhz sdram module will do. Get a couple of 256 mb ones and your machine will fly
[12:14] <geo_> sean: open it as root..
[12:14] <Brandano> I'd take the 64 mb one you got and frame it
[12:14] <adaptr> _Sean: get used to it - at the same time, you are priviledged to enjoy a virus-, spyware-, and crapware-free system
[12:14] <Shaba1> Hello
[12:14] <_Sean> Yeah, but that means i have to do "gksudo nautilus" to search for it right?
[12:14] <Brandano> might make an interesting conversation piece
[12:14] <SAMMI> Now I've got only 64 mb pack...
[12:14] <Shaba1> am I still here or locked again
[12:14] <juano> TheoMurpse: try sudo apt-get install nmapplet
[12:14] <adaptr> Shaba1: hi
[12:15] <Brandano> I think I even have some simms somewhere..  you still see them around as earrings :)
[12:15] <Rosh_Keifer> andcor: Actually, dmesg didn't seem to report it being detected at all, even though the hard drive revved up and such when it was plugged in. My friend says that it's known to work if turned off and back on. I'll try that.
[12:15] <andcor> _Sean: either that or search for it in the terminal
[12:15] <faeryNatsuki> i need to open an ace file, what do i need?
[12:15] <geo_> sean: I just go to the directory in terminal
[12:15] <andcor> Rosh_Keifer: ok
[12:15] <Brandano> faeryNatsuki: I'd check if 7zip supports it
[12:15] <_Sean> is that what you recommend I get used to ?
[12:15] <Brandano> ace is an archive format
[12:15] <Rosh_Keifer> andcor, Neat! It came right up. Nice autodetection. :)
[12:16] <andcor> yeah sometimes
[12:16] <juano> TheoMurpse: sorry its:
[12:16] <juano> TheoMurpse: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:16] <andcor> not that nice when you don't want it to pop up ,-)
[12:16] <Shaba1> grrrr
[12:16] <adaptr> _Sean: I meant that a secure OS comes at a price: keeping it secure
[12:16] <Shaba1> sorry folks
[12:16] <SAMMI> really, now my  xubuntu 6.06 in that Celeron 433, 64Mb Ram... It doesn't fly yet...
[12:16] <Shaba1> The network is giving me hell today
[12:16] <Shaba1> anyway
[12:16] <Apollo> i can start gxine and totem with no problem "except" when firefox is running. I close firefox and can start them. any thoughts to my prob?
[12:16] <_Sean> yeah
[12:17] <Shaba1> adaptr what programs on the Ubuntu cd
[12:17] <Shaba1> I just like some of the things I see in ubuntu and would like to install it to HD on this laptop
[12:17] <morpheus74> Do I need to us sudo to run todos?
[12:17] <Brandano> SAMMI: it's impressive it runs at all
[12:17] <Shaba1> BUT work requiers me to have windows so I know sooner or latter I will need that HD space back
[12:17] <ddwagnz> okay yesterday i came in with a problem and i have found a tempoary solution to it, use a second cd drive if you have 2 and i downloaded a blender package and chucked it onto the live cd version and ran it and that way works
[12:17] <Shaba1> and take into account you are talking to a pretty knowlegeble windows person.
[12:17] <SAMMI> I wnow...
[12:17] <n2diy> ! todos
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about todos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <adaptr> Shaba1: you're not reading me ?
[12:17] <_Sean> Thanks.
[12:17] <Shaba1> am I still here or locked again
[12:17] <Brandano> hey ddwagnz
[12:17] <SAMMI> extreme experiences...
[12:17] <ddwagnz> hay Brandano
[12:17] <vinboy> how do I backup all the downloaded packages so the next time I install Ubuntu i don't have to redownload it?
[12:18] <LjL> vinboy: they're in /var/lib/apt/archives
[12:18] <n2diy> vinboy: they are already backed up, try locate *.deb
[12:18] <vinboy> thanks LjL
[12:18] <adaptr> vinboy: they are in /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:18] <LjL> vinboy: err, that's /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:18] <HordesOfHonor> hi all
[12:18] <HordesOfHonor> I have a question
[12:19] <adaptr> we know :)
[12:19] <stapol> Rofl I forgot my Nickserv passwor
[12:19] <stapol> Anything I can do?
[12:19] <erUSUL> LjL: yes they are but not forever... they get cleaned more often than we think ;)
[12:19] <LjL> adaptr: was too late to tell my finger to refrain from hitting enter :P
[12:19] <LjL> erUSUL: uh?
[12:19] <HordesOfHonor> is there a command, wich introduce me when the linux is installed?
[12:20] <adaptr> erUSUL: default is at what.. a few weeks, no ?
[12:20] <SAMMI> See you soon people, an thanx!
[12:20] <Shaba1> hello
[12:20] <hairulfr> HordesOfHonor: Yes, plenty
[12:20] <adaptr> HordesOfHonor: "introduce you" ? like.. a movie ?
[12:20] <erUSUL> LjL: the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:20] <_Sean> Which text editor should I use?
[12:20] <LjL> erUSUL: yeah... how do they get cleaned, besides manually?
[12:20] <erUSUL> _Sean: emacs
[12:20] <HordesOfHonor> ok
[12:20] <_Sean> k, ty.
[12:20] <HordesOfHonor> to show me
[12:20] <adaptr> erUSUL: bad, bad, bad man....
[12:20] <bruenig> _Sean, vim
[12:20] <LjL> erUSUL: i mean, i can see there's an autoclean being done on crontab - but just an autoclean
[12:20] <n2diy> erUSUL: your cruel. :)
[12:21] <adaptr> _Sean: just open a text file, it starts gedit which works fine
[12:21] <hjmills> night world
[12:21] <bruenig> !info leafpad
[12:21] <ubotu> leafpad: GTK+ based simple text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.9-2 (edgy), package size 69 kB, installed size 488 kB
[12:21] <adaptr> yes, but gedit is installed by default
[12:21] <bruenig> !info mousepad
[12:21] <ubotu> mousepad: simple Xfce oriented text editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 50 kB, installed size 508 kB
[12:22] <kazuka> 42 mins
[12:22] <hjmills> _Sean, vim! vim for the win! vim vim vim!
[12:22] <_Sean> Okay, I'm doing this. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[12:22] <_Sean> I'm at /etc/X11/gdm/Init/ in the console
[12:22] <bruenig> _Sean, just do sudo apt-get install numlockx
[12:22] <_Sean> how do i open Original
[12:22] <adaptr> notepad under wine, people.. really. it's so obvious
[12:22] <_Sean> yeah, i did
[12:22] <bruenig> adaptr, good point I never thought of that
[12:22] <steel_lady> please I need help with kopete, I don't know what is happening
[12:22] <theflyingfool_> whats a good prog for converting mp3 -ogg
[12:22] <LjL> adaptr: well but the actual MS version, using the free version that comes with WINE would be cheating now wouldn't it
[12:23] <HordesOfHonor> hairulfr, is there command for thath?
[12:23] <_Sean> I need to do both, no?
[12:23] <LjL> theflyingfool_: BadIdea
[12:23] <hjmills> bruenig, i find notepad on wine by far the easiest as i dont have to learn the complexities of gedit or another text editor
[12:23] <lmosher> I have network-manager-gnome installed and it automatically starts. I want to keep it installed, but can I make it NOT auto-start?
[12:23] <adaptr> LjL: ther's a *free version* ? you mean MS haven't patented "an application that stores characters typed on the keyboard" ?
[12:24] <hjmills> theflyingfool_, you shouldnt convert from one lossy format to another
[12:24] <LjL> adaptr: well, maybe they have. i meant "free" as in "open source", then who knows how patents can surprise us ;)
[12:24] <theflyingfool_> hjmills: Why not?
[12:24] <adaptr> hjmills: the complexities of gedit ? strange, strange man
[12:24] <hjmills> theflyingfool_, you will lose quality in the conversion so it will sound worse than it does now
[12:25] <joselito> hola
[12:25] <hjmills> adaptr, sarcasm :D dont worry
[12:25] <hjmills> night all
[12:25] <hjmills> xxx
[12:25] <LjL> !es | joselito
[12:25] <ubotu> joselito: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:25] <theflyingfool_> hjmills: so how am i suppose to use a freeformat if i cant get the files in anything but mp3
[12:25] <TheDebugger> theflyingfool_: I wouldn't do that if i were you... leave 'em as mp3
[12:25] <steel_lady> please, somebody uses kopete here?
[12:25] <LjL> theflyingfool_: you aren't. if you can only get MP3, then use MP3
[12:25] <TheDebugger> theflyingfool_: You'll lose quality with the conversion
[12:26] <LjL> !somebody | steel_lady
[12:26] <ubotu> steel_lady: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:26] <hjmills> theflyingfool_, well if you rip them from cd then rip to ogg - if you are downloading mp3 then keep mp3 - its far easier
[12:26] <Shaba1> adaptr
[12:26] <unop> theflyingfool_, well, many people now are choosing to rip CDs, DVDs etc in the free formats .. so, its like a nudge in the right direction
[12:26] <LjL> steel_lady: besides, perhaps you'd have better luck on #kubuntu about that
[12:26] <adaptr> hjmills: sarcasm, on #ubuntu ? strange,. strange man....
[12:26] <Shaba1> my firewall keeps freezing mIRC on me
[12:26] <riyonuk_> Help! I cant get firefox to work, no sites are loading, its just stuck on "Waiting for.."
[12:26] <adaptr> Shaba1: so ? use konversation, or better yet, bitchx
[12:26] <bigfuzzyjesus> Shaba1, get rid of mirc :)
[12:27] <theflyingfool_> so you guys are saying just deal with it, and dont always worry about freeformat
[12:27] <snide> yep
[12:27] <snide> use xchat
[12:27] <bigfuzzyjesus> Shaba1, xchat?
[12:27] <steel_lady> ok, I will try
[12:27] <hjmills> how can i set keyboard shortcuts if the command isnt in the list in system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[12:27] <hjmills> i want to set a keyboard shortcut to shutdown
[12:27] <adaptr> theflyingfool_: if you can live with the downgrade but care more about using open standards, then by all means convert them all to ogg
[12:27] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[12:27] <unop> theflyingfool_, well, not really -- it's like, if you are forced to use non-free formats, use them -- but when and if you can use freeformats, then use them instead
[12:27] <adaptr> theflyingfool_: it's your choice, obviously
[12:27] <riyonuk_> anyone?
[12:27] <DaRkMeSSiaH> irc.icq.com
[12:27] <n2diy> riyonuk_: did you set up DNS?
[12:27] <DaRkMeSSiaH> zsdfgbzsdfghx
[12:28] <Adross> does anyone here have working msn?
[12:28] <TheDebugger> theflyingfool_: If you really want to convert, you can with mplayer and oggencoder, there a nautilus script on the net
[12:28] <adaptr> riyonuk_: check DNS, disable ipv6
[12:28] <LjL> adaptr, theflyingfool_: yeah however note that if your concern is using an MP3 decoder without the relevant patent licenses, you're still using it when converting to Vorbis
[12:28] <SilentDis> Adross, yes, i'm using centericq and chatting on msn with some friends right now :)
[12:28] <morpheus74>  I typed apt-cache search unix2dos and the result is tofrodos.  I tried typing todos foo, and this command is not found.  Is this package standard with 6.06?
[12:28] <Adross> kk, ta
[12:28] <adaptr> LjL: only once, whereas in playing them you'll be a criminal *every time* :)
[12:28] <snide> use amsn
[12:28] <snide> a cloned version of msn
[12:29] <LjL> !find unix2dos
[12:29] <Norf-ubu> Adross: MSN is playing up in the UK - very laggy and hit n miss
[12:29] <ubotu> File unix2dos found in tofrodos
[12:29] <LjL> morpheus74: just type unix2dos after installing tofrodos
[12:29] <unop> morpheus74, unix2dos *
[12:29] <SilentDis> Adross, if you're more used to a gui, rather than text-based chat program, gaim is good, amsn is as well
[12:29] <Adross> Norf-ubu: same in Australia
[12:29] <theflyingfool> well thanks for the info guys, and i just try and support open standards its not that i care that much
[12:29] <pppl> did anyone around here get the 2.6.19-kernel running within ubuntu? or does someone how a good tutorial how to do that?
[12:29] <rich__> when I installed java 5 I get a message and an OK at the end, what do I do?
[12:29] <morpheus74> LjL: So i have to install tofordos, it's not standard with the 6.06 packages?
[12:29] <Adross> SilentDis: i know, it's just gaim won't sign in
[12:29] <riyonuk_> n2diy, it was working fine, then I left and came back to the pc, and now it doesnt work
[12:30] <SilentDis> Adross, what version of gaim/ubuntu and where are you?
[12:30] <metal03> Hi there, is there a channel to get help with GAIM?
[12:30] <_Sean> Is there an installer for the newest version of gaim?
[12:30] <_Sean> #gaim
[12:30] <LjL> theflyingfool: when you have a chance to rip something to Vorbis instead of MP3, by all means do it. but converting MP3 to Vorbis is just kind of pointless
[12:30] <Shaba1> adaptr and juano I apologize
[12:30] <ikonia_> _Sean: if its not in the repo - no
[12:30] <metal03> Oh, anyone else having trouble with GAIM?
[12:30] <Shaba1> I think that fixed it.
[12:30] <cowbud> metal03: #gaim or you could just ask your question and people might be able to answer it
[12:30] <Adross> metal03: if u can't connect to msn, you are not alone
[12:30] <Shaba1> now what were you saying
[12:30] <unop> morpheus74, i shouldn't think so -- check with  dpkg -l tofrodos
[12:30] <gma> metal03: it's called #gossip
[12:30] <n2diy> riyonuk_: hmmm?
[12:30] <LjL> morpheus74: i don't know if it's standard. i guess not, if you don't have unix2dos working
[12:30] <SilentDis> _Sean, check http://www.gnomefiles.org/ - i'm pretty sure i saw it posted there recently.  i would recommend just using the packaged version in the repos for ubuntu though
[12:30] <DARKGuy> MSN is broken right now, globall.
[12:30] <cowbud> gma: meh people love answers like that
[12:30] <DARKGuy> *globally.
[12:31] <_Sean> I can't choose how my buddy list is set up, or my profile for this version :-/
[12:31] <gma> cowbud: 'meh' ?
[12:31] <theflyingfool> LjL: Thanks, ill try and get my friends to rip that way 2 from now on
[12:31] <hydroxC> Hey folks
[12:31] <metal03> Global as in Linux users or global as in everyone?
[12:31] <cowbud> gma: meh as in blah as in grunt as in whatever
[12:31] <hjmills> what program lets me setup keyboard shortcuts? im trying to get it to configure an ati-all in wonder remote to shutdown my pc
[12:31] <ikonia_> _Sean: works for me
[12:31] <Enverex> Well I just upgraded to Feisty and I have to say I'm impressed. Some nice new additions and can't find any faults.
[12:31] <cowbud> metal03: I am on it fine but im running feisty..
[12:31] <Shaba1> I was typing here and could not see anything anyone else was typing
[12:31] <_Sean> 2.0.0 beta 3.1?
[12:31] <Shaba1> what did you say adaptr?
[12:31] <unop> hjmills, i think this should do - gnome-keybinding-properties
[12:32] <cowbud> _Sean: nah beta 6
[12:32] <SilentDis> !who | _Sean
[12:32] <cowbud> er 5
[12:32] <ubotu> _Sean: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[12:32] <metal03> I'm logged in fine too...  I just can't send a msg properly...  I get an error msg back after a few
[12:32] <adaptr> Shaba1: when ? I said lots of things
[12:32] <diwi> join #php.pl
[12:32] <_Sean> cowbud: how do I get that?
[12:32] <hjmills> unop, thats almost it but it doesnt have an option to shutdown - is it possible to run a custom command?
[12:32] <riyonuk_> adaptr, ipv6 is disabled
[12:32] <hydroxC> I have an open 4660 TCP port, and I was wondering if anyone knew what it was. I have no idea what it is or where it came from, is there anyway I can find out what programs are using what ports, or even what the sevice is ?
[12:32] <cowbud> _Sean: you can compile it yourself or you can try the feisty packages or you can wait for the fix to come in to edgy..
[12:32] <adaptr> riyonuk_: and what happens when you ping the web site ?
[12:32] <Trini_Man> .
[12:33] <Shaba1> what tools will allow me to on-the-file resize the unbuntu partition and give it back to windows. You mentioned there were some on the unbuntu CD
[12:33] <_Sean> SilentDis: Is there a way to like shift click someones name to get it to come into my box or something?
[12:33] <gekkoo> is anybody familiar with tablet pcs?
[12:33] <erUSUL> hydroxC: maybe an edonkey client ??
[12:33] <_Sean> cowbud: I'm a noob, so that's probably not the best choice :(
[12:33] <cowbud> _Sean: so wait
[12:33] <unop> hjmills, errm, not sure, let me check
[12:33] <hairulfr> I wanna send a lot of stuff to a ntfs partition, but can't get write permit, what app should I kdesu?
[12:33] <cowbud> it will get fixed eventually
[12:33] <SilentDis> _Sean, huh?  what app, what, exactly are you looking to do?
[12:33] <hjmills> unop, thanks
[12:33] <hydroxC> erUSUL, I don't use donkey, I'm not using any Torrent or P2P clients
[12:33] <riyonuk_> Well deviantart is loading....very slowly
[12:33] <riyonuk_> metal03, I never can connect with GAIM >_<
[12:33] <morpheus74> unop: I'm confused.  When I do apt-cache search tofrodso I get a short description of what tofrodos does.  when I type dpkg -l tofordos, I get, "no package found".  What the difference?
[12:34] <metal03> I get a msg that something is wrong with the switchboard or something
[12:34] <_Sean> SilentDis: xchat  In stead of writing out someones whole name, or copy and pasting it, is there a way to send it to the message box so I dont have to do it?
[12:34] <SilentDis> morpheus74, you need to install that package.  sudo aptitude install tofordos :)
[12:34] <soundray> Shaba1: gparted
[12:34] <gma> morpheus74: dpkg -l looks at you database of installed stuff
[12:34] <_Sean> test.
[12:34] <sivik> how do i change the icon that is displayed in a chat window for kopete
[12:34] <unop> hjmills, http://www.codejacked.com/create-custom-keyboard-shortcuts-in-linux/ :)
[12:34] <andreasw> I have two usb discs connected to my computer both are mp3 players but only one is recognized as such (and so only the one is displayed in rhythmbox)
[12:34] <sivik> and how big does the icon need to be
[12:34] <ir45458> alguien, habla espaol?
[12:34] <sivik> andreasw, what brand(s)
[12:34] <morpheus74> gma: and apt-cache search show which packages are available to install?
[12:34] <SilentDis> _Sean, we prefer to keep the support chat in-room, so others can chime-in and learn.  you can type a partial name (first few characters, usually) and hit <TAB>, and xchat will make a guess as to what you meant.
[12:34] <DARKGuy> ir45458: yo hablo
[12:34] <SilentDis> !tab | _Sean
[12:34] <ubotu> _Sean: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[12:34] <gma> morpheus74: yep
[12:34] <hairulfr> sivik: You need to change the account, the pic
[12:35] <sivik> ok
[12:35] <morpheus74> Ah, that makes sense.
[12:35] <hjmills> unop, thanks :D
[12:35] <andreasw> sivik, trekstor is the one which is not detected as music player. Trekstor organix
[12:35] <metal03> Oh, btw...  I've been using Ubuntu Edgy64 for about 2 weeks now...  and I love it...  I'm so happy I can now live without microsoft!!  :)
[12:35] <_Sean> SilentDis, ah, okay. thank you
[12:35] <unop> morpheus74, the apt-cache is a command to query a database of avaialable packages -- both installed and not -- so just because you see info about a package  in apt-cache, it does not necessarily mean the package is installed
[12:35] <n2diy> ! es | ir45458:
[12:35] <ubotu> ir45458:: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:35] <sivik> hairulfr, and where do i do that
[12:35] <hairulfr> metal03: congrats :)
[12:35] <riyonuk_> n2diy, DNS is set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:35] <SilentDis> _Sean, nt :)
[12:36] <riyonuk_> adaptr, PING www.l.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[12:36] <n2diy> riyonuk_: are you on a lan, is that the router?
[12:36] <_Sean> SilentDis, yours is hard to do because i have to do silentd :( lol
[12:36] <SilentDis> metal03, welcome to a real os :)
[12:36] <hairulfr> sivik: I can't remember, but where you add and edit your account, (I don't use kopete any more)
[12:36] <SilentDis> _Sean, hit <TAB> twice ;)
[12:36] <sivik> found it
[12:36] <_Sean> SilentDis, ahhh
[12:36] <sivik> hairulfr, what do you use?
[12:36] <hairulfr> sivik: Or try in #kopete
[12:36] <metal03> hI'm still learning...  but I love it!!  Especially that I can play World of Warcraft...  :)
[12:36] <hairulfr> sivik: Gaim
[12:36] <hjmills> is there a command to shutdown my pc without needing a password?
[12:36] <hairulfr> which is nicer IMO
[12:36] <sivik> hairulfr, can gaim log in to all of them at once
[12:36] <DARKGuy> Hehehehe WoW runs cool in Linux, all fine, totally rocks
[12:37] <SilentDis> metal03, hehe, i use cedega to WoW, are you just using straight Wine, or crossover?
[12:37] <Shaba1> Ok lets hope I can stay here now
[12:37] <_Sean> SilentDis: Ooh, I just changed it to last spoken instead of a-z, so that should help too
[12:37] <Shaba1> adaptr are you still here
[12:37] <SilentDis> _Sean, lol
[12:37] <hairulfr> sivik: Yes, better than Kopete imo, faster as well (AIM, ICQ, MSn, Jabber, IRC, etc)
[12:37] <unop> hjmills, errm, nope unfortunately -- usually only root can shutdown a PC
[12:37] <sivik> hairulfr, maybe i will try it then, i didn't know gaim could login all of them at once
[12:37] <metal03> Straight wine baby!
[12:37] <andreasw> sivik, so any idea or do you know how I can make rhythmbox to detect my mp3 player?
[12:38] <metal03> Works like a charm
[12:38] <bruenig> hjmills, you will have to add the command to sudoers
[12:38] <sivik> andreasw, what brand?
[12:38] <soundray> hjmills: still here?
[12:38] <andreasw> sivik, like I said above. Trekstor organix
[12:38] <Shaba1> adaptr: are you still here
[12:38] <SilentDis> metal03, prefix my name on your comments, room is busy, and a lot of people have scripts to 'highlight questions' not directed at anyone in particular (myself included)
[12:38] <hjmills> soundray, i realised i wanted to watch a film and shutdown my pc from my  bed using my remote and currently i cant so no sleep till thats solved
[12:38] <hairulfr> sivik: It can. I primarily use it coz im on gnome, and kopete looks real ugly there. Though I like Gaim a lot better now
[12:38] <sivik> andreasw, sorry, i missed it and i'm not sure, never used on of those
[12:38] <hjmills> bruenig, how do i do that?
[12:38] <sivik> hairulfr, i hate gnome, don't use it
[12:39] <_Sean> How Do I set my soundcard to 5.1 sound? (Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Value)
[12:39] <hjmills> unop, how does gnome manage normally?
[12:39] <hairulfr> sivik: You will when you get tired of kde
[12:39] <chotchki> hey guys on edgy what is the proper place to set $JAVA_HOME system wide?
[12:39] <soundray> hjmills: xbindkeys might help
[12:39] <bruenig> hjmills, do sudo visudo, then add this line "username localhost= NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown -h now" with your own username substituting
[12:39] <bruenig> substituted*
[12:39] <soundray> hjmills: what type of remote - a proper keyboard?
[12:39] <sivik> hairulfr, i don't use kde, i don't like it either
[12:39] <hairulfr> sivik: What then?
[12:39] <hairulfr> sivik: WindowMaker?
[12:39] <hjmills> soundray, an ati all in wonder (looks like a tv remote with too many buttons
[12:39] <hjmills> )
[12:39] <pppl> did anyone here get the kernen 2.6.19 running?
[12:39] <hjmills> bruenig, thanks :D
[12:39] <unop> hjmills, i was afraid you were going to ask -- well, the GDM is run as root and the gnome-session can therefore do these things
[12:40] <sivik> hairulfr, enlightenment 17
[12:40] <erUSUL> pppl: me
[12:40] <andresmujica> hello!! anyone knos if there's some kind of problem with msn and kopete or gaim???
[12:40] <hjmills> unop, ahh - sneaks
[12:40] <_Sean> !soundcard
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <_Sean> :(
[12:40] <hairulfr> sivik: Nice :) got XGL etc running on it?
[12:40] <hjmills> unop * sneaky
[12:40] <_Sean> !creative
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about creative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <andresmujica> i'm trying to connect from both clients but it doesn't worked...
[12:40] <LjL> Ubotu, tell _sean about sound | _sean, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:40] <sivik> hairulfr, my ati card doesn't work well in any of the x-windows
[12:40] <unop> hjmills, well, necessary too, if you think about it, how else would it be possible?
[12:40] <LjL> !msg the bot > _sean
[12:40] <n2diy> andresmujica: there have been reports here in the last half hour that MSN may be down.
[12:40] <juano> andresmujica: i can connect from amsn
[12:40] <pppl> erUSUL: do you know a good howto? which ubuntu do you use?
[12:40] <SilentDis> andresmujica, it appears a lot of people are having issue with MSN right now, just saw 2 other people in here talking about it.  it's not the client, it's either a change MSN made so 3rd party clients can't chat, or a system problem.
[12:41] <soundray> hjmills: does your machine recognize any of the remote keys you hit at the moment?
[12:41] <hairulfr> sivik: Yeah, ati has poor drivers, bad for you, good for Nvidia
[12:41] <andresmujica> ok!!! thanks!!!
[12:41] <sivik> hairulfr, i haven't had any luck trying to do anything with my xpress 200M
[12:41] <_Sean> !msg ubotu
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msg ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <_Sean> huhh
[12:41] <soundray> chotchki: /etc/profile
[12:41] <juano> andresmujica: yes, msn is having trouble
[12:41] <erUSUL> pppl: edgy, i use vanilla kernel from linus git tree (or kernel.org)
[12:41] <SilentDis> !bot | _Sean
[12:41] <ubotu> _Sean: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:41] <erUSUL> !kernel | pppl
[12:41] <ubotu> pppl: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:41] <LjL> _Sean, /msg ubotu <factoid>
[12:41] <hairulfr> sivik: I only had on ati card, the first and the last, even the drivers that were supplied with it didn't work. Crappy
[12:41] <soundray> chotchki: or /etc/environment
[12:41] <LjL> or just /query ubotu
[12:41] <hjmills> soundray, using the gnome-keybindings-properties program i got it to do the volume
[12:42] <sivik> hairulfr, i know, thats what i'm using on my desktop
[12:42] <chotchki> soundray: thanks man
[12:42] <sivik> hairulfr, until amd fixes and open sources all drivers
[12:42] <soundray> !xbindkeys | hjmills
[12:42] <ubotu> xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 148 kB
[12:42] <soundray> !xbindkeys-config | hjmills
[12:42] <ubotu> xbindkeys-config: An easy to use gtk program for configuring Xbindkeys.. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 124 kB
[12:42] <pppl> erUSUL: how did you cope with the new features in the config? i tried building one but i never get it running. did you refer to any howto?
[12:42] <hjmills> soundray, brilliant- thanks
[12:42] <hairulfr> sivik: Probably never happen, but hopefully. Depends on MS and how much more nazi they can get
[12:43] <LjL> !language | hairulfr
[12:43] <ubotu> hairulfr: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:43] <_Sean> LjL: Thanks, but I still need to set it to stereo
[12:43] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Hawk|afk about away | Hawk|afk, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:43] <_Sean> err, stereo
[12:43] <Hawk|afk> what
[12:43] <sivik> hairulfr, amd has already said they will open source the ati drivers or else create them
[12:44] <hairulfr> sivik: That would be nice, hope that bring prices down
[12:44] <LjL> _Sean, i don't have a clue
[12:44] <sivik> hairulfr, maybe
[12:44] <soundray> sivik: really? I missed that bit. Have you got a reference?
[12:44] <sivik> soundray, i don't remember where i saw it but it was in some article about the merger
[12:44] <erUSUL> pppl: i'm just an experienced user... ;) just copy the config e.g 'cp /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic .config' in the kernel source dir and then use 'make oldconfig' and answer the question as well as you can (consult help with ? or just hit enter for the default)
[12:45] <hjmills> right - thanks everybody, especially soundray, unop and bruenig
[12:45] <pppl> erUSUL: ok, i'll try once more :-)
[12:45] <olsen_> hi, i'm doing: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx
[12:45] <olsen_> but i get, E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:45] <Zambezi> Dapperinstallation fails severaltime and Edgyinstallation doesn't boot. What can I do? Windows works, but I do NOT want Windows.
[12:45] <soundray> erUSUL: did you get the sources from kernel.org, or a patched version?
[12:46] <matty>  /leave #ubuntu
[12:46] <SilentDis> Zambezi, are you getting an error message?  a hang?  what, exactly, does happen?
[12:46] <hairulfr> Zambezi: Edgy doesn't boot at all, sure you set your bios to boot from optical drives?
[12:46] <erUSUL> soundray: is plain vanilla i use git to track linus torvalds tree (you can use git to track ben coliins ubuntu tree too)
[12:47] <erUSUL> soundray: so yes, it is a kernel from kernel.org
[12:47] <indigo2001> Hey everyone, quick question. I used EVMS to create a software RAID when my File Server was running 6.06, and now that I've upgraded to 6.10 EVMS userland tools are not installed by default. I installed them with apt and everything seems to be fine, but EVMSN doesn't have it active. It looks like it wants me to save changes before I can work with it... is this safe to do without destroying my data?
[12:47] <riyonuk_> n2diy, adaptr, any ideas?
[12:47] <DARKGuy> this is cool, you can actually get stuff from Linus himself o.o;
[12:47] <Rosh_Keifer> My wireless card is indefinitely supported by Ubuntu, being the Intel 3945 card. However, the GNOME networking manager doesn't show it as recognized. How can I fix this?
[12:47] <Eleaf> Hey there.
[12:47] <Shaba1> Ok I think I MIGHT be able to stay here this time
[12:47] <Shaba1> sorry guys
[12:47] <Eleaf> My X stopped working after a dist-upgrade.
[12:48] <Eleaf> I think it uninstalled nvidia.
[12:48] <sivik> Eleaf, you have to reinstall the nvidia
[12:48] <Eleaf> dist upgrade as in just an update.
[12:48] <soundray> erUSUL: thanks.  One stop after unpacknig the kernel. The second just stops during installation and the third gets several redscreens during installation. All of them with Dapper server.
[12:49] <Byan> for nvidia you have to go through and install it yourself.. what if I have a intel chip
[12:49] <sivik> Eleaf, did you change kernels or anything?
[12:49] <Eleaf> LjL: why would it uninstall it? ;p
[12:49] <erUSUL> soundray: just make sure you use mkinitramfs and no mkinitrd, it cost me a few kernel panics realize that i was outdated ;)
[12:49] <Eleaf> sivik: not manually.
[12:49] <sivik> Eleaf, did you did when your x stopped working
[12:49] <Eleaf> just a simple weekly update
[12:49] <LjL> Byan: i think the "best" intel drivers are installed by default
[12:49] <Eleaf> sivik: I did nothing.
[12:49] <LjL> Eleaf: i don't know, which drivers did you have installed?
[12:49] <Zambezi> haidozo, Since Dapper boots properly, I'm sure the booting sequense are correct. So it's something with Edgy server.
[12:49] <sivik> Eleaf, apparenly you did something
[12:49] <Byan> LjL: "best"?
[12:49] <sivik> Eleaf, try reinstalling the nvidia stuff
[12:49] <Eleaf> LjL: the ones..
[12:49] <kitche> erUSUL: mkinitramfs is even outdated but it's still used it seems
[12:49] <Eleaf> I was using the amaranth repository.
[12:50] <Eleaf> I thought it would be using the ubuntu ones now though..
[12:50] <rich__> WHy doesn't 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree to install flash9' work?
[12:50] <soundray> erUSUL: good hint, I'm sure I would have tried mkinitrd first...
[12:50] <SilentDis> !flash9 | rich__
[12:50] <ubotu> rich__: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[12:50] <rich__> says error, couldn't find package to:
[12:50] <Eleaf> sivik: LjL, trying to install nvidia-glx, it says broken packages with nvidia-kernel.
[12:50] <RPG_gaim> How do I get rid of the icons that appear on my GNOME desktop resembling hard drive and CD drives? I have too many of them!
[12:50] <erUSUL> kitche: so, out of curiosity, how do you build your initrd images ?
[12:51] <Eleaf> it has unmet dependencies with the nvidia-kernel
[12:51] <curs0r> is it possible to monitor samba transfers going out from my pc?
[12:51] <rich__> what do I do ubotu?
[12:51] <rich__> I enabled universe and multiverse..
[12:51] <n2diy> RPG_gaim: right click them, and then eject or unmount them.
[12:51] <kitche> erUSUL: with mkcpio if I have to make one but it seems mkinitrdramfs is still used still
[12:51] <SilentDis> !backports | rich__
[12:51] <ubotu> rich__: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[12:51] <LjL> Byan: well, for nvidia, you have the open-source "nv" driver, which is not quite accelerated, and the proprietary "nvidia" driver, which is, and is not installed by default. in the case of intel, i think the official driver is open source
[12:51] <soundray> rich__: the command is 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree'
[12:51] <sivik> rich__, ubotu is a bot, it doesn't talk back
[12:51] <Rosh_Keifer> My wireless card is supported but not at all recognized. Is the module for the Intel 3945 card not loaded in the default configuration?
[12:51] <RPG_gaim> n2diy: they're hard drives and they need to be mounted, I just have so many partitions that it clogs up the desktop.
[12:52] <LjL> Eleaf: you sure you don't have a third-party repo enabled for those drivers?
[12:52] <Byan> LjL: oh, ok
[12:52] <Eleaf> LjL: I have amaranth's.
[12:52] <olsen_> im trying to install nvidia/beryl from wiki.bery-project.org but when i try to install the nvidia packages it complains about some stuff
[12:52] <SilentDis> woohoo, envy does nvidia and ati now! :D
[12:52] <Eleaf> That seems to be down though LjL
[12:52] <Byan> seems intel does some things right
[12:52] <soundray> rich__: try that once you've setup backports
[12:52] <n2diy> RPG_gaim: hmmm?
[12:52] <pppoe_dude> b!pppoe
[12:52] <pppoe_dude> !pppoe
[12:52] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[12:52] <morpheus74> Thanks everyone for your help with unix2dos, installed and working!  What's the relationship between Ubuntu and Mephis?  Is Mephis another Linux distribution?
[12:52] <olsen_> where can i get envy?
[12:52] <sivik> morpheus74, yes
[12:52] <sivik> olsen_, wtf is envy?
[12:52] <SilentDis> !envy | olsen_
[12:52] <ubotu> olsen_: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[12:52] <soundray> morpheus74: if you mean mepis, then yes
[12:53] <Eleaf> LjL: I need to install nvidia-glx?
[12:53] <RPG_gaim> I know there is an option you can change to have GNOME not display device icons (hard drives, CD drives, etc.) on the desktop, however I can't find it now. Was wondering if anyone here knew how to.
[12:53] <n2diy> RPG_gaim: none of my HDs are on my desktop, only my usb stuff.
[12:53] <Eleaf> is this still how you do it?
[12:53] <LjL> !nvidia9 | Eleaf, these ones? they've changed
[12:53] <ubotu> Eleaf, these ones? they've changed: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[12:53] <erUSUL> kitche: mkinitramfs is a higher level app than mkcpio (it uses mkcpio internally) see 'man mkinitramfs'
[12:53] <RPG_gaim> I have several NTFS partitions that are on there
[12:53] <Eleaf> LjL: I can't copy
[12:53] <pppoe_dude> can pppoe connections be easily setup with pppoeconf with a USB speedtouch modem if the firmware is installed?
[12:53] <sivik> RPG_gaim: what are you trying to do?
[12:53] <morpheus74> Yeah, I meant Mepis.  Is the relationship similar to that of Ubuntu and Debian?
[12:53] <rich__> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:53] <rich__>  flashplugin-nonfree
[12:54] <indigo2001> Could anyone answer a question in regards to EVMSN?
[12:54] <sivik> rich__, did you do a apt-get update
[12:54] <RPG_gaim> Get rid of the icons that resemble hard drives on my desktop that point to my NTFS partitions
[12:54] <Rosh_Keifer> AHHHHHHH
[12:54] <Eleaf> LjL: what's the best way to copy that url?
[12:54] <SilentDis> !ask | indigo2001
[12:54] <ubotu> indigo2001: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:54] <LjL> Eleaf: well, myself i currently use another repository, the one by Alberto Milone. i'm not sure it's better or worse than the other (it doesn't seem to come with source packages, to start with...) but i recon that contrary to it it doesn't complain about missing nvidia-kernel or whatever
[12:54] <sivik> RPG_gaim, you have to right click and say eject to get rid of the icons
[12:54] <LjL> Eleaf: you *can* copy, just install gpm. or exercise your memory :P
[12:54] <Eleaf> LjL: how do I use gpm now?
[12:54] <RPG_gaim> I have icons on there, such as NTFS hard drive partitions, that I constantly read from and that I do not want to unmount
[12:55] <sivik> RPG_gaim, i have no clue how to get rid of them
[12:55] <LjL> Eleaf: just install it. if all goes well, as soon as you move the mouse you should see a cursor appearing, and you can copy and paste normally with the middle mouse button
[12:55] <RPG_gaim> Ok
[12:55] <Eleaf> LjL: will using this repository automatically override the default nvidia in the repos?
[12:55] <sivik> RPG_gaim, without umounting them
[12:55] <Eleaf> LjL: ah yes, working now
[12:55] <LjL> Eleaf: this is the other repository btw, the one i'm using, in case even that one fails - deb http://www.albertomilone.com/drivers/edgy/latest/32bit binary/
[12:55] <Eleaf> LjL: I see the cursor.
[12:55] <rich__> sivik, yes
[12:55] <indigo2001> I sort of did, but I can do it again. After doing a clean upgrade to 6.10 and downloading the EVMS userland packages, EVMSN detects my old software raid but doesn't seem to want to change anything about it unless I save changes. Is this safe to do without destroying data?
[12:55] <LjL> Eleaf: yes, it will. but if you had the amaranth one enabled already, it still did
[12:55] <kitche> erUSUL: yeah I see now I usually don't use initrd images since to me they are more of a pain at least by hand that is
[12:55] <Eleaf> LjL: How am I supposed to copy? ;p
[12:56] <Rosh_Keifer> The module for my wirless card is loaded, but the system doesn't see it at all. What gives?
[12:56] <soundray> RPG_gaim: open gconf-editor
[12:56] <Eleaf> LjL: maybe amaranth changed the url or something.
[12:56] <sir-k-> ipod 5g search function petition! http://www.petitiononline.com/ipodsrch/petition.html
[12:56] <LjL> Eleaf: if you just want to go back to the standard drivers from the official repos, i think you'll need to make sure everything relevant is uninstalled, and then install it again
[12:56] <RPG_gaim> soundray: ok
[12:56] <LjL> Eleaf: by selecting with the left mouse button
[12:56] <Eleaf> LjL: I'll try that first one.
[12:56] <erUSUL> kitche: fair enough ;)
[12:56] <soundray> RPG_gaim: go to apps-nautilus-desktop and disable the last option
[12:56] <LjL> Eleaf: the URL was changed some time ago, yes
[12:56] <kitche> Eleaf: with gpm you just left click and drag over what you want to copy then to paste it's left click again
[12:56] <Eleaf> okay
[12:56] <Eleaf> what is that first repo?
[12:56] <RPG_gaim> soundray: thank you :) That was what I was looking for
[12:57] <soundray> RPG_gaim: yw
[12:57] <LjL> Eleaf: if the URL you have is not "deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable", then you definitely need to change it. the other one is quite offline
[12:57] <bluefox83> ok, does anyone know of a good channel to go to for help on configuring a linksys router? for some reason my downloads are creeping along at like 3k when i shoudl be getting 230k
[12:57] <morpheus74> I may has missed it, but the relationship between Ubuntu and Mepis is similar to that between Ubuntu and Debian?
[12:57] <Eleaf> LjL: yeah, it's definetely different
[12:58] <Eleaf> LjL: I still can't copy and past with this program
[12:58] <SilentDis> Eleaf, if i may interject... the envy script is a small deb package, and the only 'extra' stuff you have to do is ctrl-alt-f1 to a console, and then sudo envy.  it does the rest.  I'm not a fan of adding extra repos, personally, is all, and the envy script has yet to fail on me :)
[12:58] <Eleaf> I select, but nothing happens
[12:58] <erUSUL> morpheus74: yes
[12:58] <LjL> Eleaf: uhm nothing is *supposed* to happen until you press the middle mouse button - which should paste what you had selected
[12:58] <Eleaf> SilentDis: eh?
[12:58] <Eleaf> [#ubuntu]
[12:58] <rich__> sivik, what do you mean by setting up backports?
[12:58] <Eleaf> [#ubuntu]
[12:58] <Eleaf> Oh middle mouse button, okay.
[12:59] <ben_m> SimpleMapis is based on Ubuntu, not all of them, or?
[12:59] <Eleaf> LjL: doesn't seem to work in pico
[12:59] <Eleaf> Won't paste.
[12:59] <LjL> Eleaf: err yeah, note that the middle mouse button is used to paste in X, too :P  (although keyboard shortcuts also work... on another clipboard, sometimes)
[12:59] <SilentDis> Eleaf, sorry, wrong name, my darn dyslexia is hindering me again :P
[12:59] <Eleaf> ;p
[12:59] <pppoe_dude> quick question: SpeedTouch 330 + dapper... anyone has experience with those?
[12:59] <matiu> I'm trying to get beryl working, using Trevino's sources, but it's not appearing in apt-cache search beryl, anyone if server is down or something?
[12:59] <Eleaf> LjL: what is the url?
[12:59] <Eleaf> !nvidia
[12:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:59] <hydroxC> Hey, is there anyway of finding out what process is hosting on a certain TCP port ?
[12:59] <Eleaf> nope..
[12:59] <Eleaf> LjL: shouldn't this paste on any program?
[01:00] <rdv> hello.  Flash Player 9 for Linux crashes Firefox 2.0 in my Ubuntu installation.  a few others seem to be having this problem.  anyone know if there is a solution?
[01:00] <SilentDis> matiu, join me in #beryl, this isn't the best spot for it :)
[01:00] <LjL> Eleaf: it works fine here... actually it shouldn't depend on the program at all
[01:00] <pppoe_dude> i am helping a friend and don't know if it works out of the box or not, or if i will have to do the same steps that i did on breezy
[01:00] <Eleaf> It will not paste in pico LjL
[01:00] <JosefK> hydroxC: sure, netstat
[01:00] <kitche> hydroxC: with tcpdump you can or netstat
[01:00] <LjL> Eleaf: it most definitely should. does it paste in a shell?
[01:00] <Eleaf> LjL: so you select, then middle click?
[01:00] <hydroxC> kitche, JosefK, Cheers, both. I'll give it a shot
[01:00] <matiu> hydroxC, sudo netstat -tlpn | grep PORTNUM
[01:00] <soundray> hydroxC: if you want to know what it *should* be, look in /etc/services
[01:00] <Eleaf> okay, there it goes LjL
[01:00] <Rosh_Keifer> Nobody gives a rats ass about wireless, it seems, even though it's one of the most important things when it comes to laptops.
[01:00] <pppoe_dude> google: speedtouch 330 dapper gives non-relevant results for dapper
[01:00] <Eleaf> What is the url for the most recent nvidia drivers?
[01:00] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, what problem do you have?
[01:00] <n2diy> hydroxC: see man netstat
[01:00] <Eleaf> LjL: is that one the ! reccomended good, or is the one you are using more updated?
[01:00] <Music_Shuffle> !ohmy
[01:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:00] <PriceChild> !nvidia9 | Eleaf
[01:00] <ubotu> Eleaf: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[01:00] <LjL> Eleaf: 1) press and hold the left button where you want to start your selection 2) move the mouse to the end of the selection 3) release the left button 4) go where you want to paste 5) click the middle mouse button :P
[01:01] <Eleaf> yea ;p
[01:01] <ben_m> That's the only thing I don't like in linux ... you can't use copy/paste without a mouse :D
[01:01] <hydroxC> hpio daemon...
[01:01] <wasabi_> ben42, ctrl-c doesn't work for you?
[01:01] <indigo2001> Ignore my previous question. I took a dive and saved it and my data is intact.
[01:01] <hairulfr> http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/linux_eu.html
[01:01] <PriceChild> ben_m, that's not true
[01:01] <LjL> Eleaf, i think they both have the same version. however, last time i tried the !nvidia9 one, it *did* try to install stuff (nvidia-kernel-blah i think) that wasn't present anymore
[01:01] <JosefK> hydroxC: netstat --program - if you want the owning program name included
[01:01] <PriceChild> ben_m, in terminal you need to add the shift key though
[01:01] <ben_m> Ctrl-c closes my apps ;D
[01:01] <LjL> Eleaf: i'd just give it a try, if it fails, use the other
[01:01] <wasabi_> on a console, sure.
[01:01] <n2diy> ben_m: sure you can, ctrl+c, and ctrl +v work.
[01:01] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: Yay! Someone noticed me! I have the very supported Intel 3945 wireless card. The module for it is loaded, but the system shows no indication of seeing it.
[01:01] <Eleaf> LjL: updating with this one.
[01:02] <JosefK> ben_m: Ctl+C etc. work so long as you aren't in Emacs or Vim
[01:02] <hydroxC> anyone any idea what a hpiod is ?
[01:02] <Eleaf> Do I just install nvidia-glx LjL ?
[01:02] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, intel......?
[01:02] <ben_m> hmm, but how do you select something in the shell without the mouse? :D
[01:02] <JosefK> hydroxC: at a guess it's connected to the Hewlett Packard printing daemons
[01:02] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: Yes. That's what I said...
[01:02] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[01:02] <LjL> Eleaf: yes
[01:02] <PriceChild> ben_m, then use autocomplete
[01:02] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, one moment
[01:02] <Eleaf> LjL: why does it keep wanting to remove nvidia-settings?
[01:03] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: I've already looked it up. It's one of the most supported cards on the list. Works right off the bat, they say.
[01:03] <hydroxC> JosefK, Hmm.. it dosen't make sense. I disabled printer services when I installed ubuntu, to get rid of the open IPP... and I haven't installed anything since last port scanning myself.. it's just appeared
[01:03] <Gosha> wtf, why am i online on some finnish serveR?
[01:03] <Eleaf> That actually lets you add and change monitors while x is running.
[01:03] <Gosha> server*
[01:03] <LjL> Eleaf: because it conflicts, since nvidia-settings is provided by nvidia-glx now. just go on and let it remove it
[01:03] <soundray> ben_m: you can if you use GNU screen
[01:03] <Eleaf> oh okay LjL
[01:03] <ben_m> cool :)
[01:03] <Eleaf> downloading restricted modules..
[01:03] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, dapper or edgy?
[01:03] <JosefK> hydroxC: did it get dragged in with an update?
[01:04] <JohnFlux> After upgrading to feisty, I can no longer boot.  After debugging, I think this is because the new kernel driver pata_via makes extra checks that it didn't check for previously.  I cannot work out how to fix this
[01:04] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, have you suspended then resumed before trying to use it?
[01:04] <n2diy> hydroxC: it is an HP printing and imaging service.
[01:04] <soundray> ben_m: I find it a bit of a pain, though. For everything else, screen is great
[01:04] <PriceChild> JohnFlux, take that to #ubuntu+1 please
[01:04] <LjL> gosha: why not?
[01:04] <JohnFlux> PriceChild isn't feisty released now?
[01:04] <Gosha> since i'm not from finland :O
[01:04] <hydroxC> n2diy, Cheers, and JosefK Is there anyway of checking if that's what happened ?
[01:04] <ben_m> soundray what do you mean? :D
[01:04] <superkirbyartist> Can someone help me with GSnes9x please?
[01:04] <PriceChild> JohnFlux, not at all... 3 months left
[01:04] <unop> JohnFlux, not yet no
[01:04] <Gosha> oh, yeah.. this isn't rizon .. forgot
[01:05] <Eleaf> it's installed LjL , I'll try to start X
[01:05] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: No...
[01:05] <n2diy> hydroxC: I missed something, check to see if what happened?
[01:05] <Eleaf> nothing is happening.
[01:05] <JosefK> hydroxC: maybe an 'aptitude search hplip' ?
[01:05] <soundray> ben_m: I use GNU screen to launch long processes remotely when I'm at work, then detach and reattach from home or vice versa. It's great for that.
[01:05] <Eleaf> I have to restart?
[01:05] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, dapper or edgy?
[01:05] <LjL> Eleaf: try just typing "X" and see what the error is
[01:05] <hydroxC> JosefK, Ah. thanks. Think this will be as easy as removing a package ?
[01:05] <JosefK> hydroxC: an 'i' at the start of a line means that package is installed
[01:05] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, does it work in the desktop cd?
[01:05] <Eleaf> LjL: no screens found.
[01:05] <Eleaf> uhh
[01:05] <black_13> how do i add mp3 files with gtkpod?
[01:06] <JosefK> hydroxC: that just searches for it, you can tell if it's installed from there - after that, remove it like you normally would if it's there
[01:06] <Eleaf> my xorg.conf is the same
[01:06] <LjL> Eleaf: hm, i *would* try restarting indeed, there's a kernel module involved...
[01:06] <Eleaf> okay, restart
[01:06] <hydroxC> JosefK, Ahhhh, Thanks a bunch. The package you mentioned is installed
[01:06] <curs0r> smbstatus shows me user and ip, but where would i get more info than that?
[01:07] <JosefK> hydroxC: np's :)
[01:07] <hydroxC> JosefK, Oh, not so good...
[01:07] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: I used the alternate install, and I have no intention of burning another CD to test a driver that should work regardless of where the OS is running from.
[01:07] <JosefK> hydroxC: warning you about removing ubuntu-desktop?
[01:07] <hydroxC> JosefK, When I mark it for removal in synaptic, -- yeah
[01:07] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, could you please pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[01:07] <user01> hmmm why do my gnome desktop icons mysteriously disappear at times?
[01:07] <JosefK> hydroxC: don't worry, so long as it's just ubuntu-desktop, that's only a metapackage, no actual programs or data in it
[01:07] <hydroxC> JosefK, Ahhh, alright
[01:08] <soundray> user01: do they reappear?
[01:08] <unop> user01, they're taking sneaky breaks when the boss is not watching? :)  what do  you have to do to make them reappear?
[01:08] <hydroxC> JosefK, Removing...
[01:08] <JosefK> hydroxC: it'll stop the daemon, but 'ps -ef | grep hpiod' to be sure
[01:09] <hydroxC> JosefK, Yah. Just stopped it. You're too good at this :P. Thanks lots
[01:09] <riotkittie> all of your icons?
[01:09] <JosefK> hydroxC: np's again - have fun
[01:10] <hydroxC> JosefK, Cheers, take care :)
[01:10] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: How 'bout I just tell you that I don't have ath0, wlan0, or anything other than eth0 and lo
[01:10] <user01> soundray: i have to reboot
[01:10] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, could you please pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[01:10] <user01> soundray: or maybe just restart x
[01:11] <soundray> user01: try restarting nautilus instead of restarting
[01:11] <soundray> user01: ... X or the whole machine
[01:11] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: If you insist.  Preferably a star wars one?
[01:12] <user01> soundray: ok...thanks...also...howdo i change the ugly orange screen at startup?
[01:12] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: Please wait while pastbin loads.
[01:13] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: http://pastebin.com/861699
[01:13] <HeathenDan> how do i disable the Openoffice splash screen?
[01:13] <soundray> user01: you mean the pretty login screen?
[01:13] <rich__> how do I accept the java agreement, there is an OK at the bottom but I can't click it or move a curser
[01:13] <andrew^> hello i was just wondering how do u configure oidentd
[01:13] <riotkittie> rich__: try hitting TAB then enter?
[01:13] <soundray> user01: System-Administration-Login Window
[01:13] <kitche> andrew^: edit /etc/oidentd.conf
[01:13] <user01> soundray: nope probably not talking about the same think mine defintely ugly
[01:14] <soundray> !usplash | user01
[01:14] <ubotu> user01: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[01:14] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, whoa this pastebin's really slow... in future you can use the ubotu's just pming you now
[01:14] <rich__> do I click yes or no after?
[01:14] <ticki> hi. does anybody know how can i copy files from a CD rOM to my hard drive and choose SKIP ON ERROR for every file it cannot be read? cmd line or GUI inteferface is fine. either way ..
[01:14] <bluefox83> where can i go for help with a router?
[01:14] <riotkittie> rich__: i imagine you click yes
[01:14] <andrew^> kitche: what do i edit tho
[01:14] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: Sorry about that.
[01:14] <PriceChild> no problem
[01:14] <kitche> PriceChild: yea pastebin.com is slow the canadian one is faster
[01:15] <kitche> andrew^: that whole file to what you want
[01:15] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, could you post the output of lspci as well?
[01:15] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: I'd go ahead and tell you that I'm an experienced Linux user who's worked with networking like this before, but I suppose you would just ignore that and start as basic as you can. :P
[01:15] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, you probably know more than me :) I'm just starting at basics and going as far as I know :)
[01:15] <soundray> HeathenDan: use the -nologo option
[01:15] <SurfnKid> hi where cann i get information on building a playlist??
[01:15] <andrew^> kitche: all i wanna do is have an identd for wen i connect to ftp
[01:15] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, my ralink 2500s work perfectly so I've never had to do much :)
[01:15] <PriceChild> SurfnKid, what application?
[01:15] <andrew^> but i dunno how2
[01:16] <bluefox83> Rosh_Keifer, you have experience with routers?
[01:16] <HeathenDan> thx
[01:16] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: Well, I'd love to just skip the pasting part because I know how to look at printouts and configuration files just as well as you do. lspci and such show the card. It's seen as a piece of working hardware, but not recognized as a network card.
[01:16] <Shaba1> Hello all
[01:16] <unop> my ralink (belkin actually) has never have worked properly
[01:16] <kitche> andrew^: I m not sure how to do with for ftp since identd is usually for irc
[01:17] <SurfnKid> PriceChild, well its mocp, but im building a pls. I have a bunch of stations, so far ive got 10 stations there, when mocp loads them i can only see 10, but nothing past it. Does length=-1 have anyting to do with this?
[01:17] <bruenig> !hi | Shaba1
[01:17] <ubotu> Shaba1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:17] <Shaba1> adaptr: I know I said this before but our you still here.
[01:17] <SurfnKid> What is Length=-1
[01:17] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, what about so lsmod show sthe correct modules loaded also?
[01:17] <andrew^> yea
[01:17] <Shaba1> Now that I got this firewall fixed so I do not disconnect all the time
[01:17] <andrew^> u have any idea kitche?
[01:17] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: Yep. lsmod shows the right modules loaded.
[01:17] <PriceChild> SurfnKid, sorry i have no idea about mocp
[01:17] <unop> Rosh_Keifer, well, does dmesg show you if the interface is actually brought up after the module is loaded?
[01:17] <rich__> how do I install java and non-free flash and start over?
[01:17] <SurfnKid> PriceChild, its ok, do u know how to build playlists
[01:17] <PriceChild> !java | rich__
[01:17] <ubotu> rich__: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:17] <rich__> err unisntall
[01:17] <PriceChild> SurfnKid, not really :)
[01:18] <soundray> bluefox83: I would first check the connection speed with something like http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
[01:18] <SurfnKid> :) ok np thx
[01:18] <Gosha> !3d desktop
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <shwag> how do I update my grub boot sector ?
[01:18] <PriceChild> Gosha, #ubuntu-xgl for that :)
[01:18] <unop> !grub
[01:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:18] <soundray> bluefox83: to make sure the problem isn't on the provider side
[01:18] <wastrel> "ubunto"
[01:18] <bluefox83> soundray, already did, when downloading via a browser i get speeds of 230k-250k
[01:18] <Gosha> i see
[01:18] <kitche> !3ddesktop|Gosha
[01:18] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[01:19] <soundray> bluefox83: and when is it that you get only 3k?
[01:19] <andrew^> need help with identd and pftp anyone assit?
[01:19] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: Nope. dmesg doesn't show anything new.
[01:19] <bluefox83> soundray, torrents, and dcc
[01:19] <PriceChild> unop^
[01:19] <bluefox83> soundray, when apt downloads, i get speeds of no more than 35k
[01:20] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, I'd love to suggest booting a desktop cd of ubuntu to see if it works there....
[01:20] <gma> !aptitude | gma
[01:20] <ubotu> gma: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[01:20] <soundray> bluefox83: if you think your router may be throttling those, it's just a matter of going through all the relevant options in the setup
[01:20] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: I don't have any blank CDs and I'm not going to buy more. -_-
[01:20] <VSpike> I need some help getting xorg to run with the open source ATI driver
[01:21] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, yeah "i'd love"
[01:21] <bluefox83> soundray, i don't have a clue what those would be though...
[01:21] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: You and I both know that if it doesn't work in here it's not likely to work on the CD either.
[01:21] <bluefox83> soundray, some people are computer retarded..i am routing retarded
[01:21] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, not so.... you may have inadvertently nudged soemthing after the install
[01:21] <VSpike> I got it working with the closed-source binary ones but I want to make it work with the open ones
[01:21] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, are you on edgy?
[01:21] <ticki> hi. does anybody know how can i copy files from a CD rOM to my hard drive and choose SKIP ON ERROR for every file it cannot be read? cmd line or GUI inteferface is fine. either way ..
[01:21] <soundray> bluefox83: Linksys calls it QoS, I think. Just disable all those options
[01:22] <Rosh_Keifer> PriceChild: I haven't touched anything since I started talking to you, which was about ten minutes after the install.  Yes, I'm on edgy.
[01:22] <VSpike> I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from single user mode, but now the X server won't start
[01:22] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, hehe ok :)
[01:22] <PriceChild> hmm
[01:22] <LjL> IrDA with a MA-620 USB adapter - irdadump shows device in range, but irdaping doesn't work nor does any OBEX transfer utility. tried with two different IrDA devices
[01:22] <kitche> VSpike: you can sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select ati as a driver for video
[01:23] <PriceChild> Rosh_Keifer, leaving my area of knowledge now... but what about modprobing the respective modules?
[01:23] <VSpike> kitche: I did, and the server would not start
[01:23] <kitche> VSpike: pastebin your log /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:23] <bluefox83> soundray, i don't see anything called QoS
[01:23] <soundray> Rosh_Keifer: when you run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' while the module loads, do you see any errors getting logged?
[01:23] <VSpike> kitche: if I replace Driver "ati" with Driver "fglrx" the server starts, which makes me think the config file is basically OK
[01:24] <M3I4_N0IT3> pessoal to com um problema, preciso conectar via ssh no meu desktop da empresa s que nao quero dar autorizao no firewall tem como?? (servidor e desktop sao linux)
[01:24] <Agrajag> !pt
[01:24] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:24] <verdRousseau> Anyone know how to install metasploit on Ubuntu?
[01:25] <andrew^> i need help with identd with pftp anyone assit?
[01:25] <dredhammer> help i have lost the ability to see the bitrates of files i create with cinelerra/avidemux or even those i download when i right click on properties in gnome, even doing file in terminal doesn't yield the bitrate
[01:25] <soundray> bluefox83: this page any help? http://linksys.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/linksys.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1701
[01:25] <hydroxC> verbose, Isn't metasploit script based, simple downloading the script and running it ?
[01:25] <mr_daniel> I want to compile a software, which needs a 'qstring.h'. Which package I have to install to get 'qstring.h' a other similair files 'q...'
[01:25] <zcat[1] > unt.org
[01:26] <Rosh_Keifer> soundray: No. It doesn't show anything remotely related to modprobe.
[01:26] <kitche> zcat[1] :?
[01:26] <verdRousseau> hydrox- the installation mentioned something about installing
[01:26] <verdRousseau> Not sure if anyone else has used it
[01:26] <Gosha> eh... what is the kde 3d desktop calleD?
[01:26] <rich__> how can I check if I have java installed? I don't know any web sites that have java..
[01:26] <Gosha> called*
[01:26] <hydroxC> verdRousseau, Is it the newer version of it ?
[01:26] <adaran> can anyone help me with a lirc problem?
[01:26] <kitche> Gosha: kde doesn't have a 3d desktop
[01:27] <verdRousseau> yes
[01:27] <verdRousseau> 3.0
[01:27] <steel_lady> ok, I downloaded amsn-0.96-2.tcl84.x86.package. how do I install it?
[01:27] <Gosha> ah, i see
[01:27] <soundray> Rosh_Keifer: that's strange. It should at least log the fact that it's loading.
[01:27] <PriceChild> steel_lady, amsn is in the repos
[01:27] <soundray> Rosh_Keifer: any 3945-related stuff in dmesg output?
[01:27] <PriceChild> steel_lady, and ubuntu doesn't use the .package 's by default
[01:27] <kitche> PriceChild: every distro uses .package
[01:27] <PriceChild> kitche, well we still prefer using debs
[01:28] <black_13> has anyone here used gtkpod succesfully?
[01:28] <andrew^> i need help with identd with pftp anyone assit?
[01:28] <hydroxC> verdRousseau, Ah, sorry, I only have experience in the 2.x ones. They were easy enough if you end up reverting to 2.7, though :P
[01:28] <PriceChild> kitche, and we should be isntalling from repos if possible
[01:28] <steel_lady> price child, from synaptics I can get only lousy .095 version, this is the one that works well
[01:28] <TheDebugger> black_13: Me.. except for the album covers.. never worked
[01:28] <Rosh_Keifer> soundray: Nothing.
[01:28] <I> Question: Does ubuntu 6.10 need a firewall or an antivirus?
[01:28] <verdRousseau> so hydrox if I used 2.7
[01:28] <verdRousseau> how would that run
[01:28] <PriceChild> steel_lady, I don't see why there's such a difference?
[01:28] <soundray> Rosh_Keifer: but you are sure that the module is loaded, yes?
[01:28] <kitche> I: techinally no but firewall is good practice
[01:28] <steel_lady> they told me on kubuntu forum
[01:28] <black_13> TheDebugger i have a shuffle ... i havent been succesfull
[01:29] <andrew^> i need help with identd with pftp anyone assit?
[01:29] <andrew^> i need help with identd with pftp anyone assit?
[01:29] <hydroxC> verdRousseau, Just download it and extract the tar.gz, then run the according program from a terminal. There are 3, one for console, one for webserver, and one for something else
[01:29] <I_am_Unique> what about virusus?
[01:29] <Rosh_Keifer> soundray: Yes, the module is loaded. Early on dmesg mentions the card but doesn't associate it with anything beyond its label.
[01:29] <verdRousseau> I see thanks alot
[01:29] <TheDebugger> black_13: Are you sure it is configured correctly?
[01:29] <VSpike> kitche: http://www.pastebin.co.uk/9076
[01:29] <I_am_Unique> question: can ubuntu get virusus?
[01:30] <johndoez0> i downloaded the new nvidia drivers off of their website and installed them and now when i restarted X i get an error saying an API mismatch with the kernel module, any ideas?
[01:30] <soundray> Rosh_Keifer: have you checked with lsmod?
[01:30] <kitche> I_am_Unique: Linux doesn't have viruses per say most virus scanners only detect windows one
[01:30] <black_13> TheDebugger you mean gtkpod ?
[01:30] <PriceChild> I_am_Unique, theoretically yes... but It's almost impossible for them to spread
[01:30] <borg> i have a series of files with similar names differentiated by a 3 digit number, i have about 205 of them, is there a bash script that can copy and rename those files in reverse?
[01:30] <PriceChild> I_am_Unique, all the linux boxes are so radically different to each other that it is hard to make one virus which could hurt more than one machine
[01:31] <Rosh_Keifer> soundray: I just unloaded and reloaded the module. dmesg: [17186438.128000]  ipw3945: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
[01:31] <kitche> VSpike: ok for so it's not seeing your card for some reason
[01:31] <Shaba1> anyone here a windows AND ubuntu user and has used partition LOGIC
[01:31] <Shaba1> ??
[01:31] <jrib> borg: the one you are about to write :)
[01:31] <bluefox83> soundray, i do not have that model of router...
[01:31] <soundray> borg: are the numbers in sequence, i.e. 001 to 205?
[01:31] <Rosh_Keifer> soundray: That doesn't seem to bring me any closer, though.
[01:31] <borg> soundray, yes
[01:31] <VSpike> kitche: yeah. and lspci does give that address I think.
[01:32] <rdv> is there a way to check what Ubuntu version i'm running?
[01:32] <soundray> Rosh_Keifer: no new interfaces visible with ifconfig -a ?
[01:32] <kitche> VSpike: I tend to leave the busid out of my xorg
[01:32] <Rosh_Keifer> soundray: nyet.
[01:32] <jarrod06> hi guys. my university offers a vpn, what program is best for accessing it with a GUI?
[01:33] <borg> soundray, yes for example, the first file is named STR0047001.jpg
[01:33] <PwndMopar> How do you increase the brightness of the display in Ubuntu?
[01:33] <graft> PwndMopar: get a lamp
[01:33] <soundray> borg: something like 'j=205 ; for i in $(seq -w 1 205) ; do echo mv name-$i name-$j ; j=$[$j-1]  ; done' (remove the echo if you're satisfied that it does what you want).
[01:33] <PwndMopar> graft, unsarcastically, how do you do so?
[01:33] <graft> PwndMopar: use your monitor settings? like normal?
[01:34] <VSpike> kitche: any ideas what I can try next?
[01:34] <shwag> grub-install /dev/sda    Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[01:34] <borg> ok, soundray i'll try it out
[01:34] <graft> PwndMopar: i mean doing it via software is not what you want to do, right?
[01:34] <kitche> VSpike: did you remove the busid from your xorg.conf?
[01:34] <PwndMopar> My monitor is already on the highest brightness and contrast.  I was wondering if you had something similar to the nVidia controls that I had installed.
[01:34] <VSpike> kitche: yes.. no joy
[01:34] <I_am_Unique> so if id install ubuntu i wouldnt have to worry about virusus and privacy theft?
[01:34] <PwndMopar> Via software is the only other option :P
[01:34] <soundray> Rosh_Keifer: do you have a wired nic?
[01:34] <PriceChild> I_am_Unique, Short answer "no"
[01:35] <Rosh_Keifer> soundray: Looking at the NetworkTroubleshooting section of the wiki, I'm tempted to try to manually configure the card to the extent of forcibly adding it to /etc/pcmcia/config.opts. However, the guide doesn't show what command to use for the hardware ID format needed in that file. It's driving me crazy.
[01:35] <wastrel> hi
[01:35] <Rosh_Keifer> soundray: Yes. I'm talking to you through it right now.
[01:35] <jrib> borg: note you are renaming, not copying there
[01:35] <PriceChild> I_am_Unique, long answer "I use virus scanners to make sure I don't pass on infected files through my windows network"
[01:35] <kgarn> How can i get my nvidia kernel module to agree with the libaries i recently installed
[01:35] <kitche> I_am_Unique: with privacy theft yes since usually that's stolen though a fake website
[01:35] <nukeslion> i think my locales are broken or something, im getting alot of error messages saying "setting locale failed", should i worry about this?
[01:35] <soundray> I_am_Unique: privacy theft, yes. But the risk is much lower than with Windows.
[01:35] <borg> jrib, aight, thx
[01:35] <Rosh_Keifer> soundray: Oh, and if you can pass the word, this card is not automatically utilized in the installer. Currently the database lists that factor as "untested"
[01:36] <I_am_Unique> i see
[01:36] <PriceChild> I_am_Unique, just use your common sense :)
[01:36] <Rosh_Keifer> soundray: Of course, I used the alternate install.. Just thought of that.
[01:36] <soundray> Rosh_Keifer: that shouldn't be necessary. If it loads a module on insertion of the card, that indicates that config.opts is fine.
[01:36] <PriceChild> I_am_Unique, don't use sudo for things that don't need it etc. Don't give out personal info on the net
[01:36] <jarrod06> !pptp
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <riyonuk_> What are some command to restart my network? No website is working
[01:37] <I_am_Unique> like phising websites?
[01:37] <graft> PwndMopar: you have nvidia-settings?
[01:37] <PwndMopar> For edgy? :/
[01:37] <PriceChild> graft, that package is inside nvidia-glx seen as it conflicts
[01:37] <kitche> riyonuk_: did you disable ipv6 yet that usually fixes it
[01:38] <PwndMopar> I do now, graft
[01:38] <rich__> how to I completely unuinstall  flashplugin-nonfree and sun-java5-jre so I can re-install them?
[01:38] <Rosh_Keifer> soundray: Alright. Well the problem exists somewhere within the network device recognition, then. The system sees the card and knows what it is, but whatever looks for network devices is playing dumb.
[01:38] <graft> PwndMopar: might work...
[01:38] <PriceChild> rich__, sudo apt-get remove <<packages>> --purge
[01:38] <kitche> VSpike: hmm what card you have?
[01:38] <PwndMopar> I tried following something else, but we'll see.
[01:38] <user01> ok i changed the orange startup screen how do i change the color of the gnome start up menu as nautilis loads?
[01:38] <graft> PwndMopar: other than that... um, you can usually adjust brightness/contrast for video players
[01:38] <kgarn> what can i type in to apt-get to view all installed packages
[01:38] <soundray> Rosh_Keifer: I had a similar problem once with a card that was expecting a firmware upload.
[01:38] <PwndMopar> graft, I need the whole screen brighter.
[01:38] <PwndMopar> Brb
[01:38] <VSpike> kitche: it's a Sapphire Radeon X800 GTO2
[01:38] <jrib> user01: system > administration > login screen setup  you mean the solid brown right?
[01:39] <kitche> VSpike: ah hmm r300 might work on it and it might not
[01:39] <briguyd> my cd/dvd drives are no longer working and "fdisk -l" returns nothing
[01:39] <VSpike> kitche: it is BIOS modded - dunno if that makes any difference
[01:39] <user01> jrib:  no the rectangle box that pops up icons
[01:39] <Rosh_Keifer> soundray: Hmm. I don't think that's the case here, though.l
[01:39] <VSpike> kitche: should act like an X850XT
[01:39] <user01> jrib: that says ubuntu
[01:39] <kitche> VSpike: see if the r300 driver will work with that
[01:39] <GionnyBoss> I have problems with BitTorrent ... looks like that the default BitTorrent client doesn't support multiple download, because I can't start another download when there's a download active... is this normal? I can't find BitTorrent client setup, too...
[01:39] <jrib> !splash | user01
[01:39] <black_13> TheDebugger what does "you did not import the existing iTunesDb ..."
[01:39] <ubotu> user01: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image using !gconf-editor
[01:40] <VSpike> kitche: I just change the driver entry to "r300
[01:40] <I_am_Unique> question: would beryl work on my athlon xp 2.8 512mb ram 64mb nvidia video card?
[01:40] <kitche> I_am_Unique: yes
[01:40] <miguel> hola
[01:40] <AWOSLappy> unop are you there?
[01:40] <spyke01> hey guys got a weird problem with my wireless gamepad not wanting to be recognized in gxmame, jscalibrator sees all the buttons buut gxmame doesnt pick them up
[01:40] <I_am_Unique> nice
[01:40] <PriceChild> I_am_Unique, beryl in #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl  :)
[01:40] <VSpike> kitche: It lists as R430 in the xorg.conf
[01:40] <user01> jrib: is gnome-splashscreen-manager a command i have to install?
[01:40] <soundray> kgarn: "dpkg --get-selections" (from man dpkg)
[01:41] <jrib> user01: yes
[01:41] <Norf-ubu> I_am_Unique: definatley -
[01:41] <kgarn> ty
[01:41] <kitche> VSpike: R430 is just revision
[01:41] <Norf-ubu> I_am_Unique: i have it running on a Piii 1ghz with 512mb ram and 64mb Nvidia card
[01:42] <I_am_Unique> Norf-ubu : and its not lagging?
[01:42] <black_13> i looks like im going to have to use windows
[01:42] <black_13> yeck
[01:43] <soundray> black_13: now that's bad news.
[01:43] <VSpike> kitche: is the r300 driver available as a package? A search on r300 gives nothing
[01:43] <Norf-ubu> I_am_Unique:  nopr - I installed the nvidia-glx drivers for the card - and it's very fast
[01:43] <black_13> soundray gotta love those closed systems
[01:43] <briguyd> my cd/dvd drives are no longer working and "fdisk -l" returns nothing, but they work under a windows partition on the same machine
[01:43] <briguyd> can anyone help me?
[01:43] <I_am_Unique> saweet
[01:44] <Rosh_Keifer> I'm about to explode.
[01:44] <kitche> VSpike: it's part of the ati driver
[01:44] <Rosh_Keifer> Seriously.
[01:44] <Rosh_Keifer> I'm volatile.
[01:44] <user01> jrib: the website for that app states:  This project is not maintained any longer. If you are interested in continueing this project, please send me an email.
[01:44] <Rosh_Keifer> So nobody can help me with the non-working wireless card?
[01:44] <Rosh_Keifer> I hate doing this, but I'm going to try rebooting. -_-
[01:45] <spyke01> if a gamepad says it works with mac then it should work in *nix, correct?
[01:45] <graft> Rosh_Keifer: what chipset?
[01:45] <graft> oh well
[01:45] <LjL> spyke01: no reason it should
[01:45] <jrib> user01: that's ok, it still works.  Or just change the gconf key manually
[01:45] <LjL> no reason it shouldn't, either
[01:45] <Norf-ubu> I_am_Unique:  if you're new to Ubuntu - and used to Windows - (as I was) it gives a whole new lkease of life to "older" kit/pc's - also the learning curve for UBUNTU isn't that difficult once you grasp the basics
[01:45] <soundray> briguyd: 'sudo fdisk -l' should only return info on your partitioned drives.
[01:45] <zhaowei> hello everyone
[01:45] <Shaba1> hello zhaowei
[01:45] <user01> jrib: i installed it and it doesnt show the splash screen currently in use . . .
[01:46] <briguyd> soundray, oh, you need to do sudo, hold on
[01:46] <Shaba1> adaptr are you at thekeys
[01:46] <gnomefreak> spyke01: no mac and *nix are not the same. mac is based on unix iirc but more than likely its gonna be a mac OSX driver that makes it work
[01:46] <soundray> briguyd: any output from 'dmesg | grep CD'?
[01:46] <briguyd> soundray, nope
[01:46] <soundray> briguyd: fdisk won't help you with CD drives
[01:46] <unvs> hmm.. mailer-daemon@mydomain seems to be set as cc: on every mail postfix handles. is there some debugging option i forgot to turn off, or is this normal?
[01:46] <jrib> user01: yes, I don't think it does
[01:46] <briguyd> soundray, someone yesterday told me to try that
[01:47] <soundray> briguyd: "no longer working" means they used to work in Ubuntu?
[01:47] <kitche> spyke01: depends since mac os is not really *nix it's BSD
[01:47] <I_am_Unique> id try ubuntu but im afraid it'd mess up my windows xp
[01:47] <spyke01> LjL and gnomefreak: thanks for the replies guys, any chance you can help me getting this gamepad to work, ive loaded joydev and jscalibrator picks up the pad but gxmame doesnt, any ideas?
[01:47] <VSpike> OK it just looks from a search like maybe the Xorg ATI driver doesn't work with my card
[01:47] <VSpike> That sucks
[01:47] <LjL> gnomefreak: even if it were unix (which it really is in some fashion, more so than Linux arguably since it's BSD), it wouldn't mean the drivers were ok with Linux
[01:47] <briguyd> soundray, i installed with one of them, and it worked for a while, i think it stopped when i upgraded to edgy from dapper, but i'm not sure
[01:47] <spyke01> thanks kitche
[01:47] <VSpike> So I have to go with the binary one for now
[01:48] <Norf-ubu> I_am_Unique: do you have a LIVE CD ?
[01:48] <VSpike> Are nVidia cards better with Linux?
[01:48] <LjL> spyke01: if those programs are seeing it then it's most definitely working, are you sure gxmame isn't just expecting different buttons? try it with some random little game perhaps
[01:48] <olsen_> VSpike: yes, linux rocks
[01:48] <killux> whenever i run kismet, i lose my connection, so i do iwconfig ath0 essid "myAP" and then dhclient ath0
[01:48] <killux> but it doesnt work
[01:48] <soundray> VSpike: marginally, but still a pain
[01:48] <killux> i have to reboot everytime
[01:48] <I_am_Unique> yes ubuntu 6.10
[01:48] <LjL> olsen_: he meant compared to ATI cards.
[01:48] <VSpike> soundray: In what way?
[01:49] <LjL> kitche: and BSD isn't *nix?
[01:49] <LjL> kitche: it's certainly more so than Linux?
[01:49] <LjL> s/\?//
[01:49] <Rosh_Keifer> No luck. :P
[01:49] <olsen_> LjL: i know nvidia does better drivers than ati does. but open source drivers for r200, r300 are ok from what i heard as well (DRI)
[01:49] <nukeslion> i think my locales are way broken, im getting a ton of error messages when updating, should i worry about that? and how would i fix it if that breaks anything?
[01:49] <spyke01> LjL: trying it with metal slug 3, and then press tab to try and change the buttons but itll pick up the d pad but not the buttons
[01:49] <kitche> LjL: well BSD isn't called *nix really at least from the developers
[01:49] <gnomefreak> nukeslion: let it vcontinue
[01:49] <kinkydarkbird> join #ubuntu
[01:49] <VSpike> So the summary is that most graphics cards are a pain under Linux?  That's not good :/
[01:49] <LjL> kitche: nor is Linux... but contrary to Linux, BSD actually does come from the Unix source
[01:49] <gnomefreak> nukeslion: they will stop once the locales have been configured
[01:50] <LjL> kinkydarkbird: you're in there
[01:50] <nukeslion> gnomefreak, alright, thanks, just worried
[01:50] <killux> any help?
[01:50] <Rosh_Keifer> Okay... I have an sit0. Could that be the wireless card?
[01:50] <I_am_Unique> anyone know when ubuntu 7 would be coming out?
[01:50] <Norf-ubu> I_am_Unique: then use it, boot from it - just don't hit the install button on the desktop. get a feel for it - then once your used to the look and feel have a look at the ununtu website for "dual booting"
[01:50] <VSpike> I'm thinking of getting a 7950GT ... just wondering if it's gonna play nicer
[01:50] <jrib> I_am_Unique: there is no ubuntu 7.  7.04 is due in 2007 April
[01:51] <aphex_twin> q: I need the postgresql 8.2 packages from http://ftp.port80.se/ubuntu/pool/main/p/postgresql-8.2/ but I'm not sure what the line should look like in my sources.list
[01:51] <gnomefreak> VSpike: not really. i dont have issues with graphics cards. to have a GUI you dont need the 3d drivers just set the driver to vesa than worry about the 3d drivers
[01:51] <killux> whenever i run kismet, i lose my connection, so i do iwconfig ath0 essid "myAP" and then dhclient ath0
[01:51] <killux> how do i get it up
[01:51] <killux> that method doesnt work
[01:51] <rainmakers99> does anyone know what sound programs are needed in ubuntu to have sound work properly? A couple weeks ago I accidentally uninstalled X from my computer but when I reinstalled with apt-get i lost sound
[01:51] <macsim> ahah
[01:51] <kitche> killux: sudo ifconfig ath up
[01:52] <killux> i did that too
[01:52] <andrew^> i need help with identd with pftp anyone assit?
[01:52] <unvs> is there anyway to make postfix NOT cc mailer-daemon on every mail it handles?
[01:52] <killux> ifconfig ath0 up
[01:52] <killux> dhclient ath0
[01:52] <VSpike> gnomefreak: to get Ubuntu to install I had to choose safe graphics mode, and that enabled the VESA driver.  It took me ages to work out why Ubuntu was so slow (I was using the 386 kernel on a dual core too).
[01:52] <briguyd> soundray, any ideas?
[01:52] <GionnyBoss> I have deleted some items from Ubuntu Menu, and now I can't see them again even if I click on "Revert" button... can anybody suggest me a way to restore the default ubuntu menu?
[01:52] <GionnyBoss> please?
[01:52] <VSpike> gnomefreak: the performance under vesa sucked - no 2D acceleration
[01:52] <kitche> killux: you using sudo with those commands?
[01:52] <killux> yes
[01:52] <VSpike> gnomefreak: also, refresh rates were not good
[01:53] <Rosh_Keifer> Nevermind.
[01:53] <Rosh_Keifer> sit0 is just ipv4-ipv6 thing.
[01:53] <Rosh_Keifer> I really need to get wireless working. This is my friend's laptop and he relies on it for wireless online gaming.
[01:54] <mag_> is it possible to hide some folders with ACl ?
[01:54] <ctothej> Can AIGLX be run with ATI's proprietary fglrx driver?
[01:54] <kitche> ctothej: no
[01:54] <jrib> mag_: why ACL?
[01:54] <ctothej> kitche: thanks.
[01:54] <Rosh_Keifer> ctothej: Please don't confuse it with XGL
[01:54] <rich__> how do I know if java is installed correctly?
[01:55] <Rosh_Keifer> ctothej: AIGLX is nvidia's built in XGL equivilant that works a bit cleaner, if I understand correctly.
[01:55] <Rosh_Keifer> XGL will work with said driver.
[01:55] <gnomefreak> rich__: you need to install it
[01:55] <kitche> Rosh_Keifer: AIGLX is X's version of XGL
[01:55] <mag_> jrib: I have a data server with samba and acls but many users can see tsome foldesr that they don't have permission to enter, just I want that all those people don't see the folders
[01:55] <ctothej> Rosh_Keifer: I installed XGL and compiz, compiz-gnome from synaptic. I booted to XGL, but couldnt get compiz to run... any suggestions?
[01:55] <exs>  i want firefox to use vlc. instead of totem as a built in video player
[01:56] <mag_> jrib: do you know how ?
[01:56] <Rosh_Keifer> ctothej: Heh... Compiz and Beryl don't come with launchers. You usually have to make one that starts the proper parts.
[01:56] <jrib> mag_: no, unless it's a nautilus specific question, which I doubt it is :)
[01:57] <mag_> jrib: what is nautilus ?
[01:57] <user01> jrib: nope there is still the ubuntu splash as windows manager and nautilis load
[01:57] <ctothej> Rosh_Keifer: right, i followed the directions from the forums, and used the terminal to launch compiz, but nothing happened
[01:57] <Rosh_Keifer> Anyway, does anyone here have the slightest clue as to why Ubuntu isn't recognizing my card properly? It sees it. It knows what it is. It just doesn't want to use it as a network interface.
[01:57] <jrib> mag_: the default file manager in ubuntu
[01:57] <jrib> user01: do you want to get rid of it or change it?
[01:57] <kitche> Rosh_Keifer: did you install the firmware also
[01:57] <mag_> jrib: mmm ok ! thank's :P
[01:57] <Rosh_Keifer> Rosh_Keifer: What firmware?
[01:58] <Rosh_Keifer> err..
[01:58] <Rosh_Keifer> kitche: What firmware?
[01:58] <rich__> can someone help me, when installing java I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1994/
[01:58] <kitche> Rosh_Keifer: intel's firmware don't think it gets installed by default
[01:58] <Rosh_Keifer> ctothej: I've never followed that bit. I used Beryl and made my own launcher. I'm afraid I don't know anything about that.
[01:59] <user01> jrib: change it to something else other than the orange box
[01:59] <VSpike> trouble with the ATI binary driver is that it makes the GL screensavers act wierd and lock up, makes switching user sessions unreliable, and also means that unless you turn off the splash screen in kernel options, you get a garbled console when you do ctrl-alt-f1
[01:59] <Flannel> rich__: er, when installing java? or flash?
[01:59] <exs> How do I get firefox to use vlc instead of totem as a built in video player?
[01:59] <ctothej> Rosh_Keifer: ok thanks. should i give beryl a shot instead of compiz?
[01:59] <_Sean> is there a gui for alsamixer?'
[01:59] <user01> jrib: so i downloaded a png image and activated it and the ubuntu image still shows up
[02:00] <Rosh_Keifer> kitche: AH! That must be it. Well, can you tell me where to get firmware for it? It should be built into the laptop
[02:00] <rich__> flash I meant
[02:00] <gnomefreak> _Sean: the ncurses (GUI) is it iirc
[02:00] <Rosh_Keifer> ctothej: laptop's hardware, since it worked with Windows*
[02:00] <killux> i want to use airodump should it look like this: sudo airodump ath0 file channel
[02:00] <killux> ?
[02:00] <TheDebugger> compiz is dead :D
[02:00] <VSpike> can anyone tell me what optioon to add to the kernel boot line to get a better text mode in the console?
[02:00] <Baloogan> Hello people. I need help getting my ubuntu computer to get wireless internets from a windows computer with encryption.
[02:00] <TheDebugger> ( for me )
[02:00] <Flannel> VSpike: better?
[02:00] <Baloogan> first I want to get wireless working sans encrypting
[02:00] <ctothej> TheDebugger: what do you mean?
[02:00] <Baloogan> and I'm unable.
[02:00] <kitche> Rosh_Keifer: Linux needs firmware for the driver it's not the same as the firmware on the device
[02:00] <_Sean> gnomefreak: how do I go about doing that?
[02:00] <VSpike> Flannel: higher resolution
[02:01] <jrib> user01: what does this command return: gconftool-2 -g /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image
[02:01] <Tron_> !compiz
[02:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:01] <gnomefreak> _Sean: type alsamixer in console
[02:01] <kitche> Rosh_Keifer: what's the chipset on your card?
[02:01] <Baloogan> Someone please help me :(
[02:01] <_Sean> gnomefreak: yeah, that's it though>?
[02:01] <user01> jrib: ubuntu-splash.png
[02:01] <ctothej> Tron_: thanks man!
[02:01] <Rosh_Keifer> kitche: It's an Intel 3945 card.
[02:01] <gnomefreak> _Sean: ncurses uses the console. its a console version of gui
[02:02] <VSpike> Flannel: current is 80x25 or so. I'd like 120 x 50 or something like that
[02:02] <jrib> user01: how did you activate yours?
[02:02] <_Sean> gnomefreak: yeah, I guess it'll work :)
[02:02] <adamonline> Baloogan: There's a TON of posts on wireless networking in Ubuntu at the forums...  I use wired, myself, I wish I could help you otherwise :/
[02:02] <jrib> user01: and what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:02] <user01> jrib: sudo gnome-splashscreen-manager
[02:02] <jrib> user01: why would you sudo that?
[02:03] <kitche> Rosh_Keifer: ipw3945.sourceforge.net follow directions there
[02:03] <user01> jrib:  seemed lie a system setting?
[02:03] <adamonline> Baloogan: I theorize it's just one of those topics that's too involved, and too broadly covered already...
[02:03] <jrib> user01: it's not
[02:03] <Baloogan> adamonline: could you link me to some of these things?
[02:03] <FFForever> here do i want to move the java 6 bin file?
[02:04] <jrib> user01: well I guess you can set defaults, but I'm not sure that would be the way to change them, don't use sudo
[02:04] <Rosh_Keifer> kitche: I like how Ubuntu has the driver and even probes the module by default, but doesn't have the firmware for it! XP
[02:04] <FFForever> where*
[02:04] <user01> jrib: that and it doesnt run as normal user
[02:04] <Baloogan> adamonline: could you atleast tell me how to set what dns server my computer uses?
[02:04] <jrib> user01: what happens when you try
[02:04] <adamonline> Baloogan: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=12959459
[02:04] <user01> jrib: want me to post in flood?
[02:04] <Baloogan> like how do I tell it to look for a dns server at such and such IP?
[02:04] <jrib> user01: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:04] <Flannel> VSpike: you should be able to change the resolution with the vga= kernel option
[02:05] <Baloogan> adamonline: I just pinged my server by ip... my problem seems to be setting of the dns server now :3
[02:05] <adamonline> Baloogan: I'm afraid I can't; not if you're trying to access the internet through another computer
[02:05] <jarrod06> yo. im having trouble starting a vpn tunnel. error paste is here http://pastebin.ca/320065
[02:05] <briguyd> ok, i tried using the command "readcd" to see what would happen, and it output this:  Cannot open '/dev/cdrw'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[02:05] <jarrod06> please help
[02:05] <VSpike> flannel: yeah - i can't find a list of available modes anywhere :/
[02:05] <briguyd> anyone have any ideas how i can get my drives working again
[02:05] <briguyd> ?
[02:05] <adamonline> Baloogan: I may have something, hold on, I saved it for when I need to use it =)
[02:05] <rich__> is it ok to install flash and java from adept manager and not from the konsole?
[02:05] <Flannel> VSpike: neither can I ;) try vga=ask
[02:05] <Rosh_Keifer> kitche: The word "firmware" isn't anywhere on that page...
[02:06] <user01> jrib: pasted . .. the version is edgy eft
[02:06] <Flannel> VSpike: that should list available options (varies depending on video card)
[02:06] <adamonline> Baloogan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119787 Dunno if it's what you need, but it's a good starting point, I'm sure
[02:06] <jarrod06> anyone know why this isnt working?
[02:06] <_Sean> !numlock
[02:06] <ubotu> To enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[02:06] <jrib> user01: url?
[02:07] <adamonline> Baloogan: It uses a lot of gui-type user friendly stuff
[02:07] <Baloogan> I'm a fan of the console :/
[02:07] <user01> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1995/
[02:07] <Baloogan> guiy stuff in linux feels so ineffectual./
[02:07] <Dame> Finally I setup my ATI drivers right. Now I want to install AIGLX. Im following this: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Dapper_with_AIGLX . But my driver version for the linux-dri-modules-common linux-dri package is not in the repository. As noted on the wiki it say: linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-27-386 IS not up,needs to be fixed. I need to wait them to fix it, or I can download it from other place?
[02:07] <adamonline> but as far as firewall goes, if you need it, that article references firestarter... I can find a great link that I used that uses a script...
[02:07] <adamonline> Baloogan: I feel ya =)
[02:07] <Rosh_Keifer> Dame: You're not the first to confuse AIGLX with XGL. ATI != AIGLX.
[02:08] <Flannel> adamonline: firestarter is avialable in the repositories
[02:08] <jrib> user01: did you ever try running it without sudo before you ran it with sudo?  You seem to have messed with your permissions
[02:08] <kitche> Rosh_Keifer: so you do have ipw3945 loaded you can check with lsmod
[02:08] <Baloogan> adamonline: My wireless seems fine right now. its encrypted and such but I don't know how to set the dns server :(
[02:08] <user01> jrib: uninstall then reinstall? :)
[02:08] <slyboots> God, Can someone help me before I go *insane*
[02:08] <jrib> user01: ls -ld /home/user01/.gnome2/splash-screens.xml
[02:08] <slyboots> For some baffling reason, when Im playing audio my Volume jumps up and down at random
[02:09] <Flannel> !ask | slyboots
[02:09] <ubotu> slyboots: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:09] <Rosh_Keifer> kitche: I've been fighting with this for an hour. Nobody knew a thing about firmware. The module is loaded.
[02:09] <jarrod06> does anyone know how to fix this VPN problem? http://pastebin.ca/320065
[02:09] <slyboots> It will play fine for ..10 seconds and then suddenyl become much louder for 2-3 then drop back down to the previous setting
[02:09] <slyboots> It does this with EVERY player..so It must be a problem with Alsa I think
[02:09] <user01> jrib: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 261 2007-01-17 19:50 /home/user01/.gnome2/splash-screens.xml
[02:09] <Byan> would anything break if I have two interfaces with the same mac address on the same computer?
[02:09] <adamonline> Baloogan: Well, I remember setting my dns servers somewhere, lemme poke around
[02:09] <slyboots> Im using a Creative Audigy 2 sound-card
[02:09] <jrib> user01: sudo chown -R $USER: ~/.gnome2
[02:10] <kitche> Rosh_Keifer: hmm ipw3945.sourceforge.net/INSTALL tells you where to get the firmware
[02:10] <Rosh_Keifer> kitche: Ah.
[02:10] <faeryNatsuki> are there any chanel for openoffice?
[02:10] <jrib> user01: don't make a typo as that can foobar your system
[02:10] <borg> faeryNatsuki, why yes there is
[02:10] <faeryNatsuki> i hate that bug, i can't write and edit a textbox nor impress nor writer :(
[02:11] <kitche> Rosh_Keifer: if getting the firmware doesn't work then I can't help you since that's probably what I think is wrong
[02:11] <adamonline> Baloogan: All I can think of is in etc/network/interfaces
[02:11] <faeryNatsuki> jrib: do you know the name?
[02:11] <jrib> !openoffice | faeryNatsuki
[02:11] <ubotu> faeryNatsuki: a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[02:11] <shwag> help  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no
[02:11] <faeryNatsuki> i'm ready to unistall openoffice, but if i do that, what can i use? there's no other alternative :(
[02:11] <jarrod06> am i online? i cant tell if anyone is even receiving this
[02:11] <jrib> jarrod06: yes
[02:11] <faeryNatsuki> thanks jrib
[02:11] <user01> jrib: ok ill try to restart again . . . how do i get a normal linux screen showing boot up instead of the unbuntu progress bar at boot?
[02:11] <Dame> !xgl
[02:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:11] <briguyd> can someone help me, my disk drives are no longer detected since i upgraded to edgy
[02:12] <Baloogan> adamonline: found it :3 its /etc/resolv.conf
[02:12] <jrib> user01: don't restart just logout and back in.  You can get rid of usplash by getting rid of "splash" and "quiet" in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:12] <Flannel> !repeat | jarrod06
[02:12] <ubotu> jarrod06: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:13] <adamonline> Baloogan: Cool, in retrospect I remember setting it up when I was trying to get my DHCP server going, so even if I found that file, I don't think it would help you as a client...
[02:13] <Baloogan> adamonline: I'm a BIG fan of static networks
[02:13] <Baloogan> I find dhcp too ... dynamic :/
[02:13] <adamonline> Baloogan: I would be too, but I've got a house full of WinXP noobs and the occastional guest
[02:14] <php-freak> lol is there any one in here smart enough thats knows how to compile curl with php? I have downloaded it throught he pakcage manager, but my php scritps are still saying call to undefined curl functions?
[02:14] <Flannel> Baloogan, adamonline, /etc/network/interfaces is dhcp stuff
[02:14] <timo> Any one using the cairo-clock
[02:14] <Flannel> php-freak: php5-curl is the package, there's no need to compile
[02:14] <jrib> php-freak: you installed php5-curl ?  or 4 if you use php4
[02:14] <adamonline> Baloogan: I wish I could have static IPs in my room, at least, so I could securely open the ports I want to enable at the router without having my ip change =(
[02:15] <adamonline> Flannel: Thank you
[02:15] <briguyd> can someone help me, my disk drives are no longer detected since i upgraded to edgy, but they work in windows
[02:15] <php-freak> hmm
[02:15] <Dame> How can I run xgl as part of my current session?
[02:15] <php-freak> flannel: let me check
[02:16] <Shaba1> hey php-freak
[02:16] <Flannel> Dame: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL support (topic has Howtos)
[02:16] <Rosh_Keifer> kitche: Ack... I'm a bit confused. This guide specifies files that only exist if you install the driver their way. I don't really want to mess up the driver that's already installed, but I can't get the firmware without it... Honestly, whose idea was it to include the driver but not the firmware that's vital for the device?!
[02:16] <adamonline> Baloogan: That's why I needed to serve DHCP from my Ubuntu box, to appease the others
[02:16] <php-freak> okay I got php5-curl, libcurl3-gnutls, libcurl3,curl installed
[02:17] <php-freak> jrib: ?
[02:17] <php-freak> Flannel: you guys get that
[02:17] <kitche> Rosh_Keifer: it says nothing about building drivers to use that firmware that firmware works on any ipw3945 driver
[02:17] <Flannel> adamonline: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/dhcp3-server is a server
[02:17] <jrib> php-freak: did you restart apache after installing that?
[02:18] <php-freak> ohh yea long long timea go
[02:18] <php-freak> restarted you name it
[02:18] <Flannel> php-freak: make sure you... enable the shared object, or whatever.  Don't you need to add it to php.ini?
[02:18] <php-freak> I think the curl is coming up on my cli php, but not my other one
[02:18] <Flannel> php-freak: curl is coming up on cli php?  but not other (apache?) one?
[02:18] <php-freak> flannel: i don't know thats what i was wondering if i was susspoesd to add it to php.ini
[02:18] <php-freak> apache
[02:18] <php-freak> apache php
[02:18] <Rosh_Keifer> kitche: DIR=$(sed -ne "s:^FIRMWARE_DIR=\([^, ] *\).*:\1:p" \ /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent)
[02:18] <Rosh_Keifer> kitche: What is that?
[02:18] <Flannel> php-freak: restart apache then.  That's the only reason it wouldn't come up in apache
[02:19] <php-freak> its done been restarted several times
[02:19] <Flannel> php-freak: if it comes up in the cli, then you don't need to add anything.
[02:19] <php-freak> how do ic heck cli again
[02:19] <Geoffrey2> I noticed the official Flash 9 release for Linux is out, does it work any better than the beta's did?
[02:19] <andytof47> hey just wondering how can i tell which version of rt2570 driver I am using?
[02:20] <kitche> Rosh_Keifer: it's sed I don't know to much about sed but I know jrib knows a bit about it
[02:20] <black_13> how do i open up a specific port (im using ubuntu on a laptop)
[02:20] <adamonline> Flannel: I have that installed already, thank you...  The project just wasn't working, in part because I couldn't unplug the rest of the house from their existing dhcp server enough to get it working right =)
[02:20] <tweek> anyone know why the nvidia driver fails to completly update the screen and leaves whitespots in areas of programs
[02:20] <andytof47> hey just wondering how can i tell which version of rt2570 driver I am using?
[02:21] <daniel007> hi, I've been try for a couple of days now to configure my machine with my network printer without any success.  Can someone help me connect ubuntu 6.10 with my smc wireless router with built-in usb printer port?
[02:21] <moonlite2> Geoffrey2: did you have problems with the betas?
[02:21] <Thug-N-Me> how do i add the english speling for my xchat ?
[02:21] <andytof47> hey just wondering how can i tell which version of rt2570 driver I am using?
[02:21] <Rosh_Keifer> kitche: I just want to get the files... Apparently that bit is supposed to show where I should install them.
[02:21] <jrib> Rosh_Keifer: I think that will just set DIR equal to whatever FIRMWARE_DIR is
[02:21] <Thug-N-Me> spelling
[02:22] <jarrod06> my video resolutiion options only goes up to 800 by 600 in gnome although xorg.conf goes up to 1280x1024, how do i fix this to allow these higher resolututions?
[02:22] <Geoffrey2> moonlite2, for me, the beta's were useless, any and all flash content brought my browser to a complete standstill
[02:22] <riotkittie> jarrod06: have you customized your xorg.conf to any extent ?
[02:22] <jrib> Rosh_Keifer: you can just run the sed command in your console and find out.  It won't do anything and even if you don't believe me, just don't run it with sudo :)
[02:22] <HymnToLife> !fixres | jarrod06
[02:22] <ubotu> jarrod06: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:22] <moonlite2> Geoffrey2: interesting :D
[02:23] <Geoffrey2> moonlite2, yep, unless it's happening to you, and then it's just downright annoying
[02:23] <moonlite2> Geoffrey2: nothing like that happened to me. Occasionally it would bug out but i havent tested the new version to see if doesn't do that anymore, never hanged my browser though
[02:23] <riotkittie> flash 9 beta makes me a sad panda
[02:24] <HymnToLife> riotkittie, flash 9 is not beta anymore
[02:24] <jarrod06> subsection display goes to 1280 by 1024 and that was by default
[02:24] <Geoffrey2> moonlite2, well, since the official release is out, I'll install it...odds are good I'll be back to Flash 7 within 15 minutes though
[02:24] <riotkittie> HymnToLife: it isnt? why am i always the last to know these things <g>
[02:24] <andytof47> how do i find out my driver version for my wireless card please
[02:24] <jarrod06> but gnome has not allowed that setting
[02:24] <andytof47> anyone
[02:24] <eobanb> is anyone using a usb 802.11g adapter with the prism54 islsm driver
[02:24] <moonlite2> Geoffrey2: let's hope it works for you
[02:25] <Rosh_Keifer> jrib: I tried it. Got an error.
[02:25] <jrib> Rosh_Keifer: file doesn't exist?
[02:25] <HymnToLife> !anyone | eobanb
[02:25] <ubotu> eobanb: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:25] <Rosh_Keifer> jrib: sed: can't read  /etc/hotplug/firemware.agent: No such file or directory
[02:25] <riotkittie> jarrod06: in a term ...  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg         ... you may want to sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak first
[02:25] <daniel007> Anyone have any success connecting a HP printer with a smc wireless router with built-in usb printer port?
[02:25] <eobanb> HymnToLife, that's all i'm asking.
[02:25] <Geoffrey2> moonlite2, but then, I'm not sure if part of it isn't Ubuntu in general just not playing nice with my computer
[02:25] <jrib> Rosh_Keifer: yeah, I don't have that file either
[02:25] <tweek> its as if the screen isnt refreshing completely, is it a problem with nvidia drivers, fails to update the entire scrren?
[02:25] <eobanb> there is no 'next question'
[02:26] <Rosh_Keifer> jrib: All I want to know is how and where to install the firmware...
[02:26] <Rosh_Keifer> I've got it...
[02:26] <adamonline> andytof47: I'd recommend looking in System > Administration > Device Manager
[02:26] <eobanb> HymnToLife, believe me, i've been in this channel for years now.
[02:26] <andytof47> Cheers adamonline
[02:26] <HymnToLife> same here...
[02:26] <shwag> does mysql put stuff in  /var/log/mysql   by default ?
[02:26] <Geoffrey2> moonlite2, I've just seen too many applications crash on my computer doing idiotically simple stuff that simply SHOULDN'T be a problem for even halfway decent programs
[02:27] <riotkittie> there was a difference between that anyone and most anyones.
[02:27] <moonlite> Geoffrey2: if they trigger driverbugs all is possible
[02:27] <moonlite> Geoffrey2: what hardware do you have?
[02:28] <Geoffrey2> moonlite, let's see...one time I cut and pasted a folder, simply clicked to move back to the parent folder, and nautilus tanked on me
[02:29] <Geoffrey2> moonlite, no, not a folder, my bad...I was sorting file, moved a few files into a folder, went to back out of the folder, Nautilus has exited unexpectedly....sigh.....
[02:29] <moonlite> Geoffrey2: do you have an overclocked cpu? Is your memory perhaps faulty?
[02:29] <moonlite> however, nautilus has died for me too on occasions
[02:29] <andytof47> ! adamonline looking at the device manager tells me alot of information about my WUSB54g but I don't see a driver number??
[02:30] <rainmakers99> Can anyone assist me with getting sound working on my system?  Alsa detects the card at 0 the system appears to work but has no sound
[02:30] <Geoffrey2> moonlite, no, this is a Dell notebook, Intel Centrino...I definately do not overclock...great way to create a silicon puddle....
[02:30] <adamonline> andytof47: I just looked around in mine; there should be something under the advanced tab along the lines of info.linux.driver
[02:30] <Senegal> hi all
[02:30] <Geoffrey2> faulty RAM....I may have to find somewhere that can test it
[02:30] <moonlite> Geoffrey2: what does puddle mean?
[02:30] <moonlite> memtest is your friend
[02:30] <zcat[1] > Geoffrey2: similar problems here; dumped a bunch of video clips from my camera yesterday, and tried to edit them in kino. Every file it imported was 'choppy' like it could only read one fame in ten. After a reboot it worked fine again, but it just dissapears so damn often, so I try and save my project after every little edit..
[02:30] <Geoffrey2> moonlite, as in, melting down your chip
[02:31] <moonlite> ah
[02:31] <zcat[1] > *frame
[02:31] <zcat[1] > maddening
[02:31] <moonlite> agree btw, overclocking is plain stupi
[02:31] <moonlite> d
[02:31] <Senegal> i would like to upgrade mu ubuntu from breezy to the latest one ? is there a fast wat ?
[02:31] <Flannel> !upgrade | Senegal
[02:31] <ubotu> Senegal: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:31] <Senegal> thank you
[02:31] <andytof47> adamonline yeah says strlist then usb   - I want to update my driver for this so it supports packet injection do i need to uninstall this driver in order to install the new one????
[02:32] <andytof47> adamonline If so what command would i use?
[02:32] <andytof47> cheers
[02:32] <Geoffrey2> moonlite, then there's Firefox....it crashed a few days ago when I tried to bookmark a page....that's it
[02:32] <rexcannon> !compiz
[02:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:33] <humblerodent> I have my keyboard set to U.S. English but it seems to act like an international keyboard or something....apostrophes dont work quite right, and stuff.
[02:33] <moonlite> Geoffrey2: strange
[02:33] <humblerodent> can anybody help me?  Thanks in advance
[02:33] <Thug-N-Me> how do i change language spelling for xchat ?
[02:33] <Thug-N-Me> aspell -l=EN
[02:33] <Thug-N-Me> Error: You must specify an action
[02:33] <Thug-N-Me> ?
[02:33] <Thug-N-Me> :)
[02:33] <adamonline> andytof47: Sorry, that's beyond my level of expertise =)  I've only had to install one driver, for a gigibit ethernet NIC, and it was a simple sudo apt-get install e1000 (where e1000 was the name of the driver).  I presume if I needed to uninstall it, it would be sudo apt-get remove e1000.
[02:33] <zcat[1] > another annoyance; a lot of the time when I try to login it just 'hangs' after making the startup sound; nothing else for ten minutes or so. Restarting gdm won't make the problem go away, but if I reboot it's all fine again. Any suggestions?
[02:34] <andytof47> cheers anyway thanks for the help
[02:34] <Geoffrey2> moonlite, and that's what makes this so frustrating...I keep hearing people rave about how much more stable and reliable Linux is than Windows, and I'm having to restart this thing FAR more often than I had to do even under Windows 98......
[02:34] <jewbilee> How do I rename a mounted partition?  I accidently named /media/hdc1 as windosws and not windows
[02:34] <humblerodent> Geoffrey2: as far as Windows goes, 98 is the closest thing to stable
[02:34] <humblerodent> well either that or 2K
[02:34] <TheDebugger> Too much drugs...
[02:35] <TheDebugger> The NT line has always been stable for me
[02:35] <kazuka> hey guys
[02:35] <adamonline> andytof47: That's what's weird, anyway, is the info.linux.driver seems to just show the name of the driver, and not the version... Hmmmm... Well, good luck!
[02:35] <Geoffrey2> let's just say I have "r-s-e-i-u-b" pretty much memorized by this point :)
[02:35] <moonlite> Geoffrey2: sorry to hear that. Ubuntu has been working marvelous for me personally. Never have to reboot
[02:35] <sigilz> I am using suse and its pretty stable...has locked once or twice while I was messin around with installing vid drivers *shrug*
[02:36] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Hi!
[02:36] <sigilz> probably just my ignorance in configuring everything
[02:36] <kupesoft> How can I prevent resource hogging and limit the amount of processes a use can spawn in mulit-user server.  This is prevent fork bombs, etc.
[02:36] <kupesoft> *user
[02:36] <jewbilee> How do I rename a mounted partition?  I accidently named /media/hdc1 as windosws and not windows
[02:36] <zcat[1] > !ulimit
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ulimit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <zcat[1] > :(
[02:37] <nothlit> jewbilee, relabel a mounted partition you mean?
[02:37] <jewbilee> nothlit: yes
[02:37] <nothlit> it depends on the filesystem of the drive labeled
[02:37] <jewbilee> nothlit: NTFS
[02:37] <Tomasso> can anyone please help me solve a broken packages problem? just installed ubuntu, and it says there are 3 broken packages i must fix, using synaptic i can see that 3 OpenOffice'
[02:37] <nothlit> jewbilee, use ntfslabel
[02:37] <Tomasso> packages are in red
[02:37] <Rosh_Keifer> kitche: Can you just tell me where the proper place to dump the drivers is, in accordance to where Ubuntu installs things? This stupid sed script isn't working.
[02:37] <Geoffrey2> moonlite, granted, part of my problem would be solved if companies would just break down and start developing linux drivers for the stuff they build instead of forcing people to cobble together drivers themselves.....
[02:38] <Rosh_Keifer> kitche: firmware*
[02:38] <jewbilee> nothlit: what are the arguments?
[02:38] <nothlit> jewbilee, use the man pag
[02:38] <nothlit> e
[02:38] <Tomasso> it doesnt either allow me to remove or do anything with them
[02:38] <jewbilee> nothlit: ?
[02:38] <Tomasso> getting very anoyed :(
[02:38] <fokuslee> can someone please explain the difference between "exit" and "exit 1" i see both in a script
[02:38] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, hey there!
[02:38] <moonlite> Geoffrey2: just releasing specs for the hardware would be good enough imo
[02:38] <nothlit> jewbilee, to access the man page of a tool, the argument is    man <toolname>
[02:38] <Geoffrey2> well, time to install Flash 9, the official version
[02:39] <jewbilee> nothlit: im still confused as to what I need to do
[02:39] <arrenlex> fokuslee: exit 1 returns 1 as the exit code of the program. exit codes denote whether the program exited successfully or with an error.
[02:39] <arrenlex> fokuslee: So, for example, if you're calling your script from another script, if what you ran failed, you probably don't want to just keep executing. You probably want to handle it.
[02:39] <moonlite> Geoffrey2: plz pm me "success"/"failure" later. :)
[02:39] <moonlite> like to know how it went
[02:39] <arrenlex> fokuslee: Run the command "true" and then run "echo $?"
[02:39] <jewbilee> nothlit: man ntfslabel?
[02:39] <arrenlex> fokuslee: Then run "false" and "echo $?"
[02:40] <daniel007> Anyone have any success connecting a HP printer with a smc wireless router with built-in usb printer port?
[02:40] <nothlit> jewbilee, yes, use that and it'll tell you the syntax
[02:40] <Geoffrey2> would it make more sense to uninstall Flash 7 for now, or just move it to a different folder?
[02:40] <arrenlex> fokuslee: As you see, 0 indicates a successful exit.
[02:40] <jewbilee> nothlit: no manual entry for it
[02:40] <nothlit> if you don't have ntfslabel, its probably in ntfsprogs or utils
[02:40] <nothlit> !ntfsprogs | jewbilee
[02:40] <ubotu> ntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12.1-1 (edgy), package size 205 kB, installed size 532 kB
[02:40] <fokuslee> arrenlex yeah i c so exit 1 means there is something wrong and i handle it latter with the script rite?
[02:40] <Rosh_Keifer> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
[02:41] <tillint> hello? first-timer with ubuntu asks: how does /mnt -command works, actually
[02:41] <adamonline> In Bash, if I want an if/then test to return true when a grep doesn't find a matching string, what would be the command? The command I have so far, which doesn't work, is: if [ -n $($stringX | grep -v $substringX) ]
[02:41] <arrenlex> fokuslee: If you're looking at a program that's going "exit 1", that means if it gets to that point, it terminates with an error.
[02:41] <Flannel> fokuslee: no, you're returning 1 to whatever called the script.  you've exited the script.
[02:41] <Rosh_Keifer> tillint: /mnt is not a command. It is a directory. mount is a command.
[02:41] <kupesoft1> Sorry, I got disconnected,
[02:42] <arrenlex> adamonline: if echo "hello" | grep hello ; echo "Hello was found" ; else echo "Hello was not found" ; fi