[08:12] <Flannel> Flak: Until you have a CD that passes that check (on some computer), the other issues are secondary.  Try burning from a different computer?  If you downloaded the files from bittorrent, they're valid (bittorrent has a built in integrity check) isos
[08:12] <error404notfound> energY: using Terminal..
[08:12] <jim_p> RabbitG, and not some "alternative"
[08:12] <rdw200169> bullgard4, in your resolv.conf
[08:12] <jim_p> !java
[08:12] <energY> error404notfound: x11 forwarding?
[08:13] <rdw200169> bullgard4, that's from opendns.com, a very very secure dns server
[08:13] <Flannel> spawn: You should check to see if that file already points to the proper location
[08:13] <Flak> I'll go check it on this computer - I'll be back in a few minutes (Flannel I hope you're still here, thanks for the help so far)
[08:13] <Pytlask> Does anybody use HDAPS on their Thinkpad in order to stop disk write while it is in motion?
[08:13] <bullgard4> rdw200169: My DHCP server is Fritz!Box Fon (a German product). As DHCP did not work flawlessly, I issued fixed IP addresses for my local LAN, and this worked all right until this morning.
[08:13] <rdw200169> bullgard4, thanks for the backgroudn, that's fonera?
[08:13] <spawn> im updating drivers and i want to make sure its right so i just want to overwrite it Flannel
[08:13] <error404notfound> energY: that's not terminal.. I mean something like smbcopy
[08:13] <jim_p> !java
[08:14] <rdw200169> bullgard4, like, the fonera router?
[08:14] <energY> error404notfound: You don't have a screen?
[08:14] <trent1> any ideas for a fixing my screen? its usable just very annoying...
[08:14] <Flannel> spawn: Alright, the proper way to do that would be to add f `ln -sf whatever` instead of ln -s whatever
[08:14] <error404notfound> error404notfound: I have, I don't have a GUI
[08:14] <energY> trent1: Is it full HD?
[08:14] <bullgard4> rdw200169: I do not know the word 'fonera'. Put your question in other words, please.
[08:14] <FireFox> phonera it is
[08:14] <energY> error404notfound: Talking to yourself?:P TWM is not that big...
[08:14] <FireFox> the free wifi initiative
[08:15] <bullgard4> rdw200169: I do not know anything about 'fonera router'.
[08:15] <spawn> thanks dude
[08:15] <error404notfound> energY: yup :P :D, naaah... I don't like any GUI, not even TUI,  CLI rocks :D
[08:15] <energY> bullgard4: They are a router provider
[08:15] <rdw200169> bullgard4, ah, i was thinking of something else
[08:16] <rdw200169> bullgard4, energY knows what i'm talking about ;)
[08:16] <trent1> no its not HD
[08:16] <rdw200169> bullgard4, so, you know the subnet, i'm assuming, so you can ping the router?
[08:17] <rdw200169> bullgard4, if you use the dns server i mentioned, it should clear things up, if you can ping the router, and the router can surf the net
[08:17] <Flak> Flannel: I got the same behavior when booting this computer off of it - I guess theres something screwy with my cd writer?
[08:17] <Pytlask> Does anybody know the default kernel tree root directory?
[08:18] <rdw200169> bullgard4, man resolv.conf will tell you how to edit the file. all it should need is a nameserver line specifying that ip i suggested
[08:18] <Flannel> Flak: that's a possibility.  Do you have another burner you can try?  If not, you can contact your LoCo and see about getting a CD from them.
[08:18] <RabbitG> can any guys tell me why I have so slow eclipse under my ubuntu
[08:18] <rdw200169> bullgard4, that, or another dns server that actually works ;)
[08:18] <Flak> i have an iMac that can burn images... i think
[08:19] <rdw200169> RabbitG, sorry, you should ask the developers, they will be able to help you mroe
[08:19] <rdw200169> RabbitG, try #eclipse
[08:19] <Flak> Flannel, actually - would it be possible to do it off a flash drive?
[08:19] <bullgard4> rdw200169: In resolv.conf I changed <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>. Now '~$ ping google.com' works.
[08:19] <Flannel> Flak: It is.  Um, I'm not very intimate with the details, but they can be found on the first link ubottu is going to give you
[08:19] <RabbitG> ok, thanks
[08:19] <Flannel> !install | Flak
[08:20] <Flak> thanky thanky
[08:20] <rdw200169> bullgard4, very good, sir, very good (yay!)
[08:20] <bullgard4> rdw200169: :-)
[08:21] <Flak> Flannel, if I can't get a CD to work, I shouldn't try to get that to :)
[08:21]  * Flak finds the mac
[08:21] <rdw200169> bullgard4, in order to clear up what i mentioned earlier, this is what i was talking about, (the Fon got me on this): http://www.fon.com/en/
[08:21] <trent1> well i have to come back later and try and figure it out i have to go for now, bye guys
[08:22] <bullgard4> rdw200169: And now Firefox can resolve also http://www.archive.org/index.php and all the other web addresses I was subscribing to. --  Thank you.
[08:22] <Flannel> Flak: Another alternative is to ask your LoCo for a CD.  That likely won't happen tonight, since they're likely asleep, but you can try and talk to them in #ubuntu-northcarolina   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam
[08:22] <Flak> aah black magic
[08:22] <rdw200169> bullgard4, it's safe to say that opendns is really reliable and safe, you can use that one just about anywhere on any network
[08:23] <Flak> Flannel thank you for all your help - if I see you tomorrow I'll let you know how it went :)
[08:23] <Flannel> Flak: Good luck
[08:23] <rdw200169> bullgard4, check opendns.com to see what i'm talking about
[08:23] <alcohol> I can get used to using ubuntu <3
[08:23] <bullgard4> rdw200169: I had a short glance at http://www.fon.com/en/ and am somewhat confused what information it is to convey. I will read it again later when there is more time at hand.
[08:24] <rdw200169> bullgard4, they sell routers that make it easy to set up wireless mesh's
[08:25] <bullgard4> rdw200169: I have a faint idea about opendns.com. I will read it later more thoroughly.
[08:26] <gmathews> Hi, how acn i play .flv files in ubuntu - i already have ubuntu restricted extras
[08:26] <bullgard4> rdw200169: Who  sells "routers that make it easy to set up wireless mesh's"? LA fonera?
[08:26] <rdw200169> bullgard4, yes
[08:27] <rdw200169> bullgard4, also, open-mesh.com
[08:27] <gmathews> lol flv works. thanks :)
[08:27] <bullgard4> rdw200169: Ah, I will read their website more thoroughly somewhat later.
[08:27] <|Steve|> I just updated to 8.10 and a few things have broken for me. The first is that spamassassin now seems to rely on the URI perl module as per http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=6164 When I try to install URI from cpan, it fails. Any suggestions?
[08:28] <mv0> i have sound coming out of my computer like the computer speaker, how do i turn that off?
[08:29] <bullgard4> rdw200169: "09:06 < rdw200169> bullgard4, you should be on the interwebs now" <- What do you mean by 'interwebs'?
[08:29] <rdw200169> bullgard4, a funny way of saying 'internet'
[08:29] <Flannel> |Steve|: liburi-perl is the package that contains URI.pm
[08:29] <rdw200169> bullgard4, now, i'm off to do korean homework (yay)
[08:30] <|Steve|> Flannel: Oh. Well, it claims to already be at the latest version and yet spamassassin says, "Can't locate URI.pm in @INC"
[08:30] <bullgard4> rdw200169: Ah! Ok. Well, my router stated this since the beginning. But I could not believe it. --  Have fun! And thank you very much for your help!
[08:31] <Flannel> |Steve|: If that fixes your issue, it appears that that dependency has been skipped, if you don't mind filing a bug about it... Hmm.
[08:31] <|Steve|> Flannel: slocate URI.pm shows /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/URI.pm. That seems wrong.
[08:32] <Flannel> |Steve|: liburi-perl shows for me of having /usr/share/perl5/URI.pm
[08:32] <Flannel> |Steve|: something in /local/ seems very wrong indeed, yes.
[08:32] <|Steve|> /usr/share/perl5/URI is a directory for me.
[08:32] <Flannel> |Steve|: Check the output of apt-cache policy liburi-perl, does it look like its coming from the repos?
[08:33] <|Steve|>         500 http://ports.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
[08:33] <|Steve|> Flannel: I can only assume that line means it is.
[08:33] <Flannel> |Steve|: ports... hmm, PPC?  That... I suppose could be the reason.  Try............ installing libapache2-mod-perl2
[08:33] <jim_p> !kde
[08:33] <|Steve|> Flannel: Yes.
[08:34] <jim_p> !kubuntu
[08:34] <Flannel> |Steve|: that contains the file /usr/lib/perl5/APR/URI.pm
[08:34] <|Steve|> Flannel: Installing.
[08:35] <|Steve|> Flannel: Okay, that installed it (among other things).
[08:36] <Flannel> |Steve|: gah.  Right.  Sorry about that.  That'll drag in apache2.2-common and libapr1
[08:36] <sinan> i have just installed GIMPShop from a deb package, how can i actually "run" it?
[08:36] <|Steve|> That's okay, I already have apache installed.
[08:38] <|Steve|> Flannel: Running the spamassassin command that failed, I get the same error.
[08:38] <Gamestah|007`AFO> hey guys
[08:39] <Gamestah|007`AFO> can i use ubuntu as a windows domain controller?
[08:39] <Flannel> |Steve|: Odd indeed.  I'm not familiar with spamassassin unfortunately.  My recommendation would be to file a bug, see what they have to say (also, try posting on the forums, ubuntuforums.org)  My next debugging step would be to get SA to output @INC, etc, etc.  Normal debugging procedures.  This may be a known problem by someone, and there may be a workaround already in place.
[08:39] <Flannel> |Steve|: Already in place --- While filing the bug report, you may already find one (with a solution, etc)
[08:40] <MaT-dg> when is reinstall vista on my vista partition, will it break the bootloader?
[08:40] <|Steve|> Flannel: Oh, it spits out what @INC is and it looks reasonable to me.
[08:40] <Flannel> MaT-dg: Yes, but you can fix it by following the first command from this factoid
[08:40] <Flannel> !grub | MaT-dg
[08:42] <triplc> how to "slim down" Ubuntu? I use a 600MB RAM laptop, which WAS quite good for using Ubuntu in the past... but now, I notice that just after firefox, thunderbird, it began swapping
[08:42] <jim_p> what is the kde equivalent for cheese? http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/cheese
[08:42] <triplc> any "slim down" guide, please
[08:42] <|Steve|> Flannel: Forcing liburi-perl to --reinstall seems to have fixed the problem.
[08:43] <Flannel> |Steve|: It's odd that it'd have something in local
[08:43] <DareDevil_> stop the visual effects mostly will reduce the ram
[08:43] <|Steve|> Flannel: I suspect that's from cpan installing something at some point in the past.
[08:43] <jim_p> triplc, about ubuntu? remove stupid packages like festival etc
[08:43] <ac13> When I turn on visual effects, the text in Terminal and Emacs will sometimes screw up and not display properly. Any fix for this?
[08:44] <triplc> i disable all effect. in fact, i use dwm window manager (not gnome)
[08:44] <ac13> triplc: I have effects disabled too. But is there any way I can turn on effects and not have these problems?
[08:44] <DareDevil_> run ps -ef and top to find what are the services consuming the bandwidth
[08:45] <ethanol> A pity, xchat-gnome crashes when trying to enable transparency of the background ):
[08:45] <lstarnes> ethanol: try using regular xchat instead
[08:45] <spawn> im trying to install rt2860 drivers for my wireless and i followed the guide and i was still unable to have it work it just shows up now under restricted drivers (the guide i used http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=683085&page=5)
[08:46] <alcohol> lstarnes: that thought never occured to me :x
[08:46] <nocti> or irssi
[08:46] <|Steve|> Flannel: Thank you for your help. Coupled with http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SaUpdateKeyNotCrossCertified spamassassin seems to be working again.
[08:46] <alcohol> Gonne give regular a try.
[08:47] <xpt> ethanol: mine x-chat works good with transparency
[08:47] <Flannel> |Steve|: No problem.  Glad it's solved.
[08:47] <|Steve|> The other thing that's broken for me is XChat. The op and voice icons don't appear any more.
[08:47] <|Steve|> The #xchat people are stumped. Since /usr/share/xchat doesn't exist, it should use the compiled in icons yet nothing appears for me any more. There's no mention of this in launchpad.
[08:48]  * Veritatis is away [BNC ON]
[08:48] <alcohol> |Steve|, did you install xchat-gnome or xchat?
[08:48] <alcohol> Cause xchat is working fine here for me now.
[08:48] <|Steve|> alcohol: I believe just xchat.
[08:48] <|Steve|> Yes, xchat-gnome is not installed.
[08:48] <alcohol> |Steve|, can you verify?
[08:49] <alcohol> Weird, I have op icons and such :<
[08:49] <|Steve|> It's very disconcerting.
[08:51] <Mal3ko> how do you do recursive del specific file ext in all subfolders?
[08:52] <spawn> im trying to install rt2860 drivers for my wireless and i followed the guide and i was still unable to have it work it just shows up now under restricted drivers (the guide i used http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=683085&page=5)
[08:52] <nocti> Mal3ko: man find
[08:53] <Mal3ko> find does another thing
[08:53] <nocti> :D
[08:53] <nocti> find ./ -iname *.ext -exec rm {} \;
[08:53] <|Steve|> Mal3ko: find /path/to/dir -name '*.ext' -exec rm -f '{}' \;
[08:54] <Flak> Flannel: I burned the amd64.iso to a cd on the mac, booted my laptop off of it, and it is actually checking the disc!
[08:54] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Is there some site that has extras to add to the taskbars?
[08:54] <Mal3ko> |Steve| thank you :)
[08:55] <Flak> which is good, it means my 20 dollar cd writer is broken and not my laptop :)
[08:58] <Flak> :O
[08:58]  * Flak braces for the joins
[09:00] <Gorlist> Good morning, quick question :) ive got a dedicated server which I was going to reimage with 8.04 LTS  minimal installation, now the hosting provider normal tampers with their images, customising to promote their products
[09:00] <Gorlist> is their a way after installing I can strip the installation down and clean out any modifications?
[09:01] <Gorlist> (using SSH for this, no remote desktop etc)
[09:01] <ahm3d> hello
[09:02] <ahm3d> how can i fix this? i have driver from ubuntu installed
[09:02] <ahm3d> *** tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video card
[09:03] <Gorlist> perhaps your video card doesn't support it?
[09:03] <yao_ziyuan> is it good to upgrade a package while it is in use?
[09:04] <ahm3d> i have radeon hd3650
[09:04] <dayo> .
[09:04] <fosco_> yao_ziyuan: no problem with that
[09:04] <Gorlist> ah right, have you used drivers from repo or ATI's website?
[09:04] <yao_ziyuan> man, this single dot message seems not invented by me
[09:05] <ahm3d> repo
[09:05] <yao_ziyuan> fosco_: what about config files read/write?
[09:05] <fosco_> yao_ziyuan: you can upgrade a running program but changes will apply when you restart that program
[09:05] <Gorlist> well first check to see if YUY2 is supported with them, and perhaps consider if not trying install ones from ATI
[09:06] <ahm3d> ok
[09:06] <ahm3d> thanks
[09:06] <Gorlist> try a search on the forums as well,
[09:06] <Gorlist> im sure someone else has had the same problem,
[09:06] <ahm3d> i heard someone fixing this adding some lines to xorg.conf
[09:07] <yao_ziyuan> fosco_: cool
[09:07] <Gorlist> possibly, Xorg is easy to configure
[09:07] <ahm3d> bye bye Gorlist
[09:08] <Flak> \o/ installing ubuntu on my laptop finally
[09:08] <Flak> after 6 hours of trying
[09:08] <ahm3d> gg Flak
[09:09] <Flak> ...after finding out that the computer i was using's cd writer was spitting out corrupted discs like it was anti-christmas or something
[09:09] <ahm3d> nice
[09:10] <Flak> floodbot wars?
[09:10] <ahm3d> i think so
[09:11] <Flannel> Flak: They're a little upset about the netsplit.  They'll calm down in a moment
[09:11] <Flak> yea, well my money is on FloodBot1
[09:12] <ahm3d> same here
[09:12] <zgmf-x20a> hey any wine users here?  where is the wine directory?  need to put my wc3 maps in
[09:12] <idyllic> ~/.wine
[09:13] <zgmf-x20a> thanks idyllic, will try that now
[09:13] <user_1989> good morning gentlemen. I am going to reinstall Windows. Windows is hosted on C:/, there is also D:\ logical disc, and third partion is where Linux is hosted. My question is: what do I need to type from Ubuntu Live CD in order to re-enable GRUB after Windows install?
[09:14] <Flannel> !grub | user_1989, first link
[09:15] <Flak> aww, apparently i got 10 errors in this burn
[09:15] <Flak> so my laptop just started the liveCD
[09:15] <Flak> still, it looks awesome :D
[09:15] <ahm3d> nice help sistem Flannel
[09:15] <zgmf-x20a> idyllic: sorry its not there, i used a program called PlayOnLinux, but i cant find the directory
[09:16]  * Flak starts actually downloading the right iso on the mac, because copying it over produced errors
[09:17] <Flak> and it will finish... tomorrow
[09:17] <filsuf> hallo ... anybody in here runs ubuntu in Sony Vaio SR (that 13.3")
[09:17] <alcohol> hey guys, how hard or easy is it to install xp if I already have created a seperate fat32 partition on /windows during install of ubuntu?
[09:17] <Flak> good night, Flannel thanks again
[09:17] <filsuf> does it work nicely?
[09:17] <Appiah> All my newly created users get access denied first time they log in , and gnome looks a bit messed up , then i log out and login again it all OK.
[09:17] <Appiah> What causes this?
 can give me the link to the script?
[09:18] <zgmf-x20a> idyllic: nvm, found it, thanks!  o and one monet, ill give you the link to the deb file download
[09:18] <idyllic> nah... i just need the script to find the directory for u. I got mine installed and run nicely
[09:20] <dayo> .
[09:20] <dayo> alcohol: it's no problem. just u will need to backup your boot menu
[09:20] <idyllic> This dot (.) definitely not impressed me
[09:20] <kevin__> idyllic: hello
[09:20] <dayo> !grub | alcohol
 yes?
[09:21] <alcohol> dayo: thank you, I will read that (:
[09:21] <dayo> alcohol: u're welcome :-)
[09:21] <kevin__> idyllic, sorry to bother you, mistake
[09:21] <alcohol> dayo: if I restore grub, can I then also boot into windows from the boot menu?
[09:22] <kraut> moin
[09:23] <alcohol> ah nevermind, the how-to says it should be detected (:
[09:23] <alcohol> thanks
[09:24] <kaj> hello all
[09:26] <kaj> so is anyone on right now
[09:26] <bootcamp911> hello all, may i ask a question about Ubuntu ?
[09:26] <kaj> sure go ahead
[09:26] <dayo> kraut: was geht?
[09:26] <bootcamp911> how to remove the main menu sub item ??
[09:26] <kraut> dayo: please use english in this channel. everything fine with me
[09:27] <kaj> go to the synaptic pkg manager and remove it
[09:27] <bootcamp911> i never see any remove button :-(
[09:27] <idyllic> What main menu sub item? pls describe more
[09:27] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Uncheck it.
[09:27] <dayo> kraut: no problem
[09:27] <bootcamp911> its on left top conner
[09:27] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> bootcamp911, Uncheck what you dont want, then click appy.
[09:28] <Musial|mIRC> yo dudes
[09:28] <bootcamp911> i know, just uncheck it?? > CoUrPsE|DeAd
[09:28] <kaj> but make sure you know what you are unchecking or you could cause instability
[09:28] <kraut> dayo: it's just unfair to the others here, most of them don't understand krautish ;D
[09:28] <idyllic> bootcamp911, right click the top left Ubuntu icon, select Edit Menu,, then start playing
[09:28] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> bootcamp911, Yes, then click appy.
[09:28] <fosco_> bootcamp911: what do you exactly want to remove?
[09:29] <dayo> lol
[09:29] <SeQ> why will it not let me connect to a channel, says i must be identified to join channel
[09:29] <bootcamp911> it is a game > fosco
[09:29] <bootcamp911> because not fun, so wanna remove it
[09:29] <kaj> you can also go to main menu under pref. and remove it that way and still have it if you need to use it
[09:29] <fosco_> bootcamp911: remove the game and the menu item will dissapear
[09:30] <kernel> bootcamp911, Remove with Synaptic.
[09:30] <bootcamp911> i hving remove the program, but still found in program menu
[09:30] <kernel> bootcamp911, or use the sudo apt-get remove
[09:30] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> SeQ, I assume you mean join a channel on IRC? Next time ask a whole question please, The channel has +R set and only registered nicknames can join. /msg nickserv help for futher assistance (I
[09:30] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Im asumming this network has services./
[09:30] <fosco_> bootcamp911: right clic on the menu pplaet and choose edit menus
[09:30] <fosco_> applet*
[09:30] <SeQ> thanks Courpse dead
[09:30] <kaj> so what you do is go to home folder and show hidden find the directory after you uninstall and delete it for example .mozilla
[09:30] <bootcamp911> i did it, but cant see any remove option > fosco
[09:31] <fosco_> bootcamp911: uncheck its show checkbox
[09:32] <kaj> bootcamp what program r u trying to remove?
[09:32] <ohhai> What's the best screensharing tool to use between Mac OS X and Ubuntu/Kubuntu desktops?
[09:32] <bootcamp911> Oh my god, i CANNOT unCHECK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:32] <kernel> bootcamp911, Why?
[09:32] <fosco_> bootcamp911: is it a wine game?
[09:32] <bootcamp911> yes :)
[09:33] <bootcamp911> i wanna delete completely the WINEEEEE
[09:33] <kernel> bootcamp911, -.-.... remove the wine directory
[09:33] <kaj> go to home folder go and show hidden files go to .wine and delete the directory
[09:33] <fosco_> bootcamp911: rm -rf ~/.wine
[09:33] <kernel> bootcamp911, your home folder/.wine this directory remove
[09:33] <kernel> : )
[09:33] <bootcamp911> oic > haj
[09:33] <kaj> or just go to synaptic and remove wine
[09:34] <nbeebo> how to see what driver in use?
[09:34] <bootcamp911> TRYING...
[09:35] <kernel> rm -rf /home/your home folder/.wine
[09:35] <kernel> : )
[09:35] <kaj> does anyone here play guildwars on Ubuntu Ibex
[09:35] <bootcamp911> STILL cant uncheck at Main Menu Edit, only New Menu, New item, New Separator....
[09:36] <fosco_> bootcamp911: open a terminal, run rm -rf ~/.wine && killall -1 gnome-panel
[09:36] <fosco_> wine menu will dissapear
[09:36] <bootcamp911> trying
[09:36] <kaj> ok bootcamp911 do this go to system--->admin---> synaptic and uninstall wine. then go to home/ .wine and delete it
[09:36] <fosco_> kaj: removeing wine will not delete its config files
[09:37] <dinesh372> is gcc and emacs are used for same purpose
[09:37] <kaj> but deleting the .wine in home/ will
[09:37] <amit> hello
[09:37] <bootcamp911> STKFLT CHLD CONT STOP TSTP TTIN TTOU URG XCPU XFSZ VTALRM PROF WINCH IO PWR SYS
[09:37] <bootcamp911> UNUSED
[09:37] <fosco_> dinesh372: gcc is a C compiler, emacs is a powerfull editor
[09:37] <bootcamp911> ????????????????
[09:37] <bootcamp911> STKFLT CHLD CONT STOP TSTP TTIN TTOU URG XCPU XFSZ VTALRM PROF WINCH IO PWR SYS
[09:38] <bootcamp911> UNUSED ????????????
[09:38] <FloodBot2> bootcamp911: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:38] <nbeebo> how to see what driver in use?
[09:38] <yodelar> is there a youtube script or applet for downloading keezmovies
[09:38] <fosco_> nbeebo: lsmod
[09:38] <sarmisak> yodelar: apt-cache search youtube
[09:38] <Guest43203> hello
[09:38] <lorenzosu> Anyone know how to "translate" the windows network information (i.e. the output of ipconfig /all) to meaningful values for setting up static IP address in ubuntu? I tried googling but no luck with modifying the /etc/network/interfaces
[09:39] <Guest43203> how to install wireless
[09:39] <z0mbix> lorenzosu: what don't you understand? you need ip, subnet and gateway
[09:39] <kaj> check the support for the wireless brand there may be drivers for it on their website also
[09:40] <lorenzosu> Guest43203: Can you specify a little please? Are you talking about hardware "install", driver "install", wireless connection?
[09:40] <lorenzosu> z0mbix: The broadcast parameter
[09:40] <dinesh372> fosco: it means i cannot use gcc for editing source code
[09:40] <Guest43203> give me comand
[09:40] <z0mbix> lorenzosu: what's your subnet mask?
[09:41] <z0mbix> lorenzosu: here's mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/108525/
[09:41] <dinesh372> fosco: i am looking to programming thats why i am asking which will be better for me emacs or gcc
[09:41] <kaj> are you running a dhcp connection or??
[09:41] <lorenzosu> z0mbix: <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:41] <Guest43203> plz give me driver "install", wireless  comand
[09:42] <bazhang> Guest43203, which chipset
[09:42] <Ce_ChnZ> #petra
[09:42] <lorenzosu> Guest43203: Are you on a laptop with built-in wireless card or you have a "real" wireless card?
[09:42] <bazhang> Guest43203, there is not a 'command' without more info from you
[09:42] <dinesh372>  can i use gcc for editing source code
[09:43] <solid_liquid> !ping
[09:43] <CrypticSwarm> Is anyone familiar with boost_python? particularly getting a c++ program to compile that uses it.
[09:43] <nocti> dinesh372: why
[09:43] <lorenzosu> z0mbix: Thanks... where do you derive the broadcast <IP_ADDRESS> parameter from?
[09:43] <bazhang> !info youtube-dl | yodelar
[09:44] <dinesh372> nocti : i am looking forward to programming that's why i am asking
[09:44] <nocti> dinesh372: you use a text editor to edit src, gcc to compile
[09:44] <z0mbix> lorenzosu: my subnet, as in 24bit - are you on a lan?
[09:44] <kaj> does anyone know wine very well?
[09:44] <dinesh372> nocti : which is the best is vim ok
[09:45] <lorenzosu> z0mbix: yes.
[09:45] <nocti> dinesh372: anything that you're comfortable with is fine
[09:45] <kaj> i am having some trouble getting guildwars to run under wine can anyone help me on this
[09:46] <z0mbix> lorenzosu: are you sure your subnet is correct then?
[09:46] <bazhang> kaj, did you check the appdb
[09:46] <lorenzosu> z0mbix
[09:46] <lorenzosu> z0mbix: Ops sorry: It's <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:46] <kaj> ya i get it to load up but the screen with the map and char. shows no backgrounds
[09:46] <dinesh372> nocti : can u tell me how to download youtube videos in ubuntu and also i am unable to play windows file in ubuntu that ends in .dat
[09:47] <bootcamp911> hi, i am sucessfuly to uncheck the wine application !!!!
[09:47] <bazhang> kaj, does appdb show it running well, there are often pointers there on how to get it going
[09:47] <oobe> dinesh372, pytube
[09:47] <oobe> dinesh372, dat files are all sorts of things and not specific to media
[09:47] <bootcamp911> thanks ALL
[09:47] <lorenzosu> z0mbix: Here's my ipconfig output (I'm on Italian windows so the labels are in Italian): http://paste.ubuntu.com/108527/
[09:48] <dinesh372> nocti: pytube is you tube downloader right
[09:48] <kaj> im running it fullscreen without desktop emulation, and graphics set to low as for appdb it sends no messages as for errors
[09:48] <nocti> dinesh372: i think there's an app called youtube-dl, mplayer can player .dat files
[09:48] <bazhang> kaj, what version of ubuntu, what video card, etc
[09:49] <halycon> Does anyone know a good program to use to make multiple choice tests?
[09:49] <kaj> i got ubuntu ultimate 2.0 wine doors and the factory card on a pavillion a1034n
[09:50] <bazhang> kaj, ubuntu ultimate? what is that? did you get that from www.ubuntu.com ?
[09:50] <michel> bonjour à tous
[09:50] <bazhang> michel, #ubuntu-fr pour francais
[09:50] <kaj> no its the same as 8.10 just kde and theme componants added
[09:50] <bazhang> !ultimate
[09:51] <bazhang> no idea about ultimate kaj
[09:51] <kaj> its just ibex with more themes
[09:51] <kernel> Hmm.. Is Fluxbox good?
[09:51] <nocti> kernel: it's all a matter of taste
[09:51] <kaj> im using wine 0.9.3 if that helps
[09:52] <kernel> nocti,  Aha. Thanks
[09:53] <nutr> hello all
[09:53] <kaj> hey
[09:53] <kernel> hi
[09:53] <nutr> can anyone help me with nvidia drivers installing?
[09:53] <nutr> have a problem
[09:53] <frojnd> nutr: just change the hw
[09:53] <frojnd> lol
[09:53] <nutr> i installed nvidia.sh successfull and runned from telinit 1
[09:54] <lorenzosu> nutr: Are nvidia graphics card?
[09:54] <nutr> but when running
[09:54] <nutr> i  see error
[09:54] <nutr>     Load           "extmod"
[09:54] <nutr>     Load           "type1"
[09:54] <nutr>     Load           "freetype"
[09:54] <nutr>     Load           "glx"
[09:54] <FloodBot2> nutr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:54] <nutr> this modules dont found
[09:54] <scodera> Hi @all Kann mir einer mit nem Treiber Prob helfen? AGP Karte ATI x1650 Treiber selbst kompiliert laut Wiki. Trotzdem bei Compiz abstürze und ohne Effekte streifen auf dem Desktop. Ubuntu Version 8.10. Alle Updates.
[09:54] <dinesh372> is there is any download accelerator for ubuntu
[09:54] <kaj> gwet
[09:54] <nightrid3r> !de | scodera
[09:54] <scodera> Sorry OK!
[09:54] <nutr> so anyone can help?
[09:55] <dinesh372> is there is any download accelerator available for ubuntu
[09:55] <M3TAP> Dinesh. Do you mean download manager?
[09:55] <nutr> kaj, a?
[09:55] <kaj> what now?
[09:55] <M3TAP> If so wget, kget or cwget
[09:56] <nutr> modules extmod, type1, freetype1, glx dont found when running X
[09:56] <maxagaz> firefox tries to download all the php files of phpmyadmin install on my /var/www, what's wrong with my install ?
[09:56] <nutr> so X say me "want run in low-graphics mode?"
[09:56] <bazhang> kaj, ultimate is not supported here. get the real deal at www.ubuntu.com
[09:56] <scizzo-> maxagaz: the server is not supporting php then
[09:56] <nightrid3r> maxagaz: mime settings in your apache
[09:56] <FireFox> !nl | firefox
[09:57] <kaj> I have the real deal ubuntu ibex with the ubuntu ultimate theme packs tyvm
[09:57] <z0mbix> lorenzosu: try setting /etc/network/interfaces without the broadcast line. I'm sure it's optional anyway
[09:57] <z0mbix> lorenzosu: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html
[09:57] <aprilhare> i want to run quake 3. where do i get ioquake3 for intrepid amd64?
[09:57] <dinesh372> M3TAP: i mean download accelerator like orbit,dap in windows
[09:58] <dayo> how do i pass arguments to grub?
[09:58] <JoeLow> hey guys, have a network question, if i set my IP address via ifconfig in the console, then boot gnome, which is used? the network manager from gnome default, or my console?
[09:58] <dinesh372> M3TAP :
[09:59] <JoeLow> or doesnt it make a difference?
[09:59] <Guest306> hi
[09:59] <Guest306> how to connect the wifi
[09:59] <M3TAP> Dinesh372, im not aware of any sorry, but you could try running then in WINE..also look into jdownloader
[10:00] <bazhang> Guest306, what chipset
[10:00] <gordonjcp> dinesh372: these "download accelerator" things don't really work
[10:00] <M3TAP> Jdownloader is a java app and im fairly sure its an accelerator
[10:00] <dinesh372> so i have to ask other members
[10:00] <kaj> Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) Gnome 2.24.1 Kernel 2.6.27-9-generic this is what im running or do i still need to download it again from ubuntu
[10:00] <bazhang> Guest306, there is no one command, you need to give us more info
[10:00] <|Steve|> Just out of curiosity, what do people think "download accelerators" do?
[10:01] <valkyr> hey guys
[10:01] <Guest306> dear my wifi connection is not show
[10:01] <kaj> i think download accelorators waste disk space lol
[10:01] <|Steve|> Agreed, but why do people think they do something?
[10:01] <bazhang> Guest306, then answer my question please: what chipset
[10:01] <kaj> beats me brainwashed by microsoft comes to mind
[10:01] <M3TAP> Cause it says so in the apps name!
[10:02] <dinesh372> gordonjcp: i tried download accelerator in windows and i found increment in download speed so i am asking these are vailable in ubuntu
[10:02] <gordonjcp> dinesh372: no
[10:02] <|Steve|> The only situation in which I can think it would work would be if you have a server that has a per-connection limit but supports resuming file downloads and multiple connections. Then you could open n connections, each getting 1/n of the file.
[10:02] <dinesh372> gordonjcp: then the download speed are very low
[10:02] <gordonjcp> |Steve|: that's basically it - some of them also mess about with networks settings
[10:02] <gordonjcp> dinesh372: then something is wrong
[10:02] <bazhang> dinesh372, no real need; you can get firefox plugin downthemall for easier downloading
[10:03] <kaj> as far as ive seen for downloads the cap is smaller for linux than windows
[10:03] <gordonjcp> kaj: eh?
[10:03] <|Steve|> cap?
[10:03] <kaj> windows will cap downloads as to not overload the system
[10:03] <bazhang> lets take this chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:04] <kaj> because of the intergration between IE and the shell
[10:04] <dinesh372> gordonjcp: is it addon or plugin
[10:04] <bazhang> dinesh372, its a firefox extension
[10:04] <gordonjcp> dinesh372: is what addon or plugin?
[10:04] <Guest306> my chip set pentium dualcore  dell
[10:05] <Guest306>
[10:05] <Guest306> ???? what happend
[10:05] <kaj> ok moving to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:05] <dinesh372> gordonjcp: i go in firefox and then tools and then addon where i found downloadthemall
[10:05] <bazhang> Guest306, your wifi chipset; is this pci or usb
[10:06] <dayo> to pass arguments to grub do i edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[10:07] <bazhang> dayo, which parameters
[10:08] <dayo> bazhang: i'm setting up an ldap+dhcp+dns server. eth0 is up and running. but i can't connect to eth1. i'm told i need to pass the IRQ for eth1 to the kernel?
[10:09] <dinesh372> how to plat flv files in ubuntu
[10:09] <erUSUL> dinesh372: mplayer
[10:09] <bazhang> dinesh372, miro, vlc and others
[10:11] <dayo> does anyone know how to pass arguments for eth1 to grub?
[10:11] <dinesh372> erUSNL: how to install mplayer
[10:11] <gordonjcp> dayo: What exactly are you trying to do?
[10:11] <|Steve|> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[10:11] <dayo> gordonjcp: i'm am trying to get eth1 up
[10:11] <dinesh372> |steve|: how to uncompress a file
[10:12] <gordonjcp> dayo: why would you do that in grub?
[10:12] <kop_> having trouble watching commercial dvd's -- point me in the right direction ?
[10:12] <|Steve|> dinesh372: Depends on how it was compressed.
[10:12] <dayo> gordonjcp: i was told i need to pass arguments to the kernel
[10:12] <dinesh372> >	|steve| :.bz2
[10:12] <boozary> Hi all
[10:13] <|Steve|> dinesh372: bzip2 -d foo.bz2
[10:13] <kop_> dayo sudo ifconfig eth1 <ip>
[10:13] <boozary> i cloesed a software from a "screen" with crtl+z this software is irssi, how to i can back it ? a way without fg
[10:14] <dayo> kop_: i put the static IP in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:14] <ghostlines> why does the x-server have to be restarted just to hook it up to an external monitor?
[10:14] <boozary>  1962 pts/1    T      0:01  |   \_ irssi
[10:14] <kop_> dayo I take it your not new to *nix
[10:15] <gordonjcp> boozary: fg is how you reattach from ctrl-z
[10:15] <dayo> i have the box hooked up to our network via eth0 and a 172.20.* IP. now i want eth1 to connect to a different switch a 10.20.*
[10:15] <dayo> kop_: no, but i'm new to building servers from scratch
[10:15] <kop_> dayo ahhh
[10:16] <boozary> gordonjcp: with fg i can't bash: fg: current: no such job but i have irssi in my process "1962 pts/1    T      0:01  |   \_ irssi" and that working i can ping my user
[10:16] <gordonjcp> boozary: okay
[10:16] <gordonjcp> boozary: are you still in screen?
[10:16] <boozary> gordonjcp: yes
[10:17] <boozary> gordonjcp: this is can be back ?
[10:17] <gordonjcp> boozary: okay, so you stopped irssi with ctrl-z, you're still in screen, and fg won't bring it back?
[10:18] <boozary> gordonjcp: YES
[10:18] <gordonjcp> boozary: prove that you're still in screen - press <ctrl-a> <?> and see if you get the help page
[10:19] <inet> +i
[10:20] <isojussi> i have 109 packets in queue when i try run apt-get upgrade. how I can force those to be updated?
[10:20] <isojussi> those are in the "not installed section"
[10:20] <kop_> dayo PM
[10:21] <dayo> kop_: thanks! :-)
[10:21] <kop_> let me know how it works out
[10:21] <inet> ex
[10:25] <rbowes> Morning
[10:25] <rbowes> I have a Ubuntu 7.10 guest running under VMware.
[10:25] <rbowes> It uses the e1000 network driver
[10:25] <rbowes> I moved it to run under vbox, which it does, but the network is not working
[10:26] <rbowes> vbox is emulating the Intel PRO/1000 T Server adapter - is e1000 the correct driver for this card?
[10:26] <goole> How to install softwares in ubuntu
[10:27] <rbowes> If not, which one is, and how can I install it?
[10:27] <oCean_> rbowes, I would think so. You also might want to ask the boys and girls in #vbox channel
[10:27] <nightrid3r> goole: system --- administration --- synaptic
[10:27] <Deany> remove vmware tools and the network device.. and let make a new one for vbox, and install additions.. well i wold
[10:29] <rbowes> oCean_, have done so
[10:29] <rbowes> Ah, Vmware tools - that could be the problem
[10:29] <Aranel> How can I transfer files via Bluetooth? I tried KDE and GNOME applications (nautilus-send and kbluetooth4) which doesnt work.
[10:29] <oCean_> rbowes: ok. Deany's advice seems reasonable too.
[10:29] <falken_za> Howzit
[10:30] <Deany> vbox default (pcnet fast) works the best for me
[10:30] <oCean_> !bluetooth | Aranel
[10:30]  * rbowes not really bothered, as long as it works!
[10:30] <Deany> and use vbox 2.1 if not already..
[10:30] <rbowes> 2.1.2
[10:31] <falken_za> what does vbox do?
[10:31] <falken_za> <==n00b
[10:31] <Appiah> Virtualbox
[10:31] <rbowes> virtual machines
[10:31] <falken_za> oh, i knew that
[10:31] <falken_za> lol
[10:31] <rbowes> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirtualBox
[10:31] <Appiah> :D
[10:32] <falken_za> i like qemu
[10:32] <falken_za> it nice
[10:32] <Cyber_Hades> When i enable Compiz Desktop Cube... it's not cube, it's table.... how to change into cube ????
[10:32] <Aranel> oCean_: tried. nautilus said "obex file push unsupported".
[10:33] <NightReaper> anyone here that knows a solution for having 4TB partitions in Ubuntu x64?
[10:33] <Cyber_Hades> some...plz
[10:33] <falken_za> no idea
[10:33] <NightReaper> other than this solution:   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-936531.html
[10:34] <NightReaper> or is that my only option?
[10:34] <oCean_> Aranel: sorry, haven't heard of that
[10:35] <marek_> hi, after last ugrade, i cannot run lastfm, this is what i get on konsole
[10:35] <Aranel> ok :/ it seems bluetooth with ubuntu really buggy.
[10:35] <marek_> Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries
[10:36] <rbowes> Deany, how do I remove the network device?
[10:36] <CE_PRAY_FOR_SUIC> CE_GOKIL
[10:36] <simion314> what ubuntu uses insted of dhcpcd?
[10:37] <nutr> hello all
[10:37] <nutr> again:)
[10:37] <nutr> i've found error
[10:37] <nutr> its ABI version mismatch
[10:37] <nutr> kernel accepts only <4.0
[10:37] <oCean_> simion314: dhclient I think
[10:37] <nutr> but driver have 5.0
[10:37] <FloodBot2> nutr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:37] <nutr> how can i solve it ?
[10:37] <falken_za> anybody know anything about VIA Chrome9 drivers?
[10:39] <hajar> hi
[10:40] <Deany> are you using dhcp?
[10:40] <rbowes> me?
[10:40] <rbowes> No
[10:40] <Deany> i guess i`d just remove it using network manager,
[10:40] <rbowes> cli only
[10:40] <Deany> is the vbox using dhcp
[10:40] <Deany> oh
[10:40] <rbowes> No, all static
[10:41] <hajar> my computer is turn off and display message (run local boot ) in black screen.. what can I do??
[10:41] <NightReaper> dead url?       https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/harware/C/disks.html
[10:42] <umz> i need some help for sasl authentication
[10:42] <Sadik_Khalid> #ubuntu-laptop
[10:42] <umz> saslauthd[6093]: Authentication failed for umz: Bind to ldap server failed (invalid user/password or insufficient access) (-7)
[10:42] <umz> Jan 23 05:39:05 server saslauthd[6093]: do_auth         : auth failure: [user=umz] [service=imap] [realm=] [mech=ldap] [reason=Unknown]
[10:42] <Sadik_Khalid> #ubuntu-quality
[10:43] <Sadik_Khalid> sorry
[10:43] <umz> any sasl guru
[10:43] <umz> ?
[10:43] <Deany> sorry, i wouldnt know how to add/remove interfaces with cli
[10:43] <onos> hi, is it normal to have a grey screen with a cross when I try to run another X server (with a startx -- :1 in a console)
[10:44] <scizzo-> onos: that is the standard X
[10:44] <hajar> hi , my computer  turns off and display a black screen with message ( run local boot) , does any one help me??
[10:44] <oCean_> marek_: that might be a mixup between libraries (with same name) in different directories
[10:45] <onos> scizzo-: how do I do to run gnome with this command ?
[10:45] <scizzo-> onos: are you running gdm or such?
[10:45] <scizzo-> onos: otherwise you tell .xsession what to run
[10:45] <marek_> oCean_ how can i check it?
[10:46]  * Deany tryin to decide what FS to use for his 160gig,
[10:46] <oCean_> marek_: /usr/bin/ldd `which lastfm`
[10:46] <onos> scizzo-: Yes, but actually when I do the startx thing, the console tells me "xinit : permission denied : unable to connect to X server"
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Hey all, If an app window is minimised, does the window get drawn in anticipation of a maximise of is it left undrawn until the maximise
[10:47] <oCean_> marek_: pls don't paste output in channel...
[10:47] <scizzo-> onos: touch ~/.xinitrc
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Deany: if its going to be used in windows, ntfs, otherwise, ext2 will do you
[10:48] <Deany> ActionParsnip,  well xchat displays everything ive missed while miinimised...i guess to an extent it does
[10:48] <marek_> oCean_      only this:   not a dynamic executable
[10:48] <marek_> too short for pastebin :)
[10:48] <ohhai> What's the best screen sharing tool to use between Mac OS X and Ubuntu/Kubuntu? (preferably Free/Open Source)
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Deany: yes the app will still hold the text, but the actual drawing of the window itself to display on the screen
[10:49] <oCean_> marek_: but.. but.. then the error regarding mixed-up libraries does not make sense *at all*
[10:49] <scizzo-> onos: echo 'exec gnome-session' >> ~/.xinitrc
[10:49] <scizzo-> onos: then try to start x again with that user
[10:49] <Deany> ActionParsnip, not windows no,  and i need speed.. im dis-counting any ext fs...
[10:49] <scizzo-> onos: not sure if it will help though
[10:50] <OllyM> hi chaps. Anyone know how i can mount a CIFS share at start up ? I'm struggling with the right fstab entry
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Deany: what size files/
[10:50] <vallhalla81> !ipod
[10:50] <Deany> its only to hold downloads and mp3s and unrar`n iso and other such.. lots of small files too, lots and lots.. and i dont want ext cuz i dont want delays deleting files
[10:50] <majnoon> !ot
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> OllyM: if you add an entry to fstab, yes you can
[10:51] <onos> scizzo-: same issue, but thanks for the help
[10:51] <Deany> its a toss up between xfs and jfs...
[10:51] <Deany> i think
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Deany: i'd use ext2 personally, saves you ~16Gb for the journal
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Deany: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2008-04/msg03082.html
[10:52] <OllyM> parsnip: what should the entry be though, thats the question :)
[10:52] <umz> any OPENLDAP + SASL guru here?
[10:52] <Deany> xfs/jfs dont use nearly as much as ext for journal
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Deany: the speed running down the usb is many times slower than the data speed coming off the drive so I personally cant see much speed increse with usb
[10:53] <oCean_> marek_: what did `which lastfm` output?
[10:54] <Deany> true, but it wont help having the fs hold it up even more
[10:55] <Ademan> does anyone else have a file ~/.rnd ?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Deany: the data down usb is slooow, the fs wont hold it up much if at all
[10:55] <Deany> ive done a few tests already.. copying a 5gig file over it was doin 30mb/s..
[10:55] <Peddy> Hi, how do I merge two mp3s into one mp3?
[10:55] <Deany> ext was around 24
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Peddy: cp mp31.mp3+mp32.mp3 mp33.mp3
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Ademan: i have it
[10:57] <Deany> im just undecided...  still, isnt usb2 like 480mb/s or something, capable
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Deany: usb is burst, firewire is buffered better so is significantly faster
[10:57]  * NightReaper needs help getting a 4TB partition to work
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Deany: its rated as 480mbps but there is a lot of empty time in the data movements
[10:59] <Ademan> thanks ActionParsnip, "After reading somewhere else on the net, it looks like the file is generated automatically from some random entropy in the system." (just in case you're curious as well :-) )  what the heck uses it though, I have no idea
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Ademan: my guess is its the random seed
[11:00] <Ademan> for libc's random() ?
[11:00] <Deany> ive seen putty use a .rnd file
[11:01] <Ademan> hrm, maybe gpg uses it then
[11:01] <Deany> dont know much else ..not used it much  or win
[11:01] <kop_> "...generated automatically from some random entropy in the system." ghosts in the machine you say ?
[11:01] <Ademan> lol
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Ademan: no, the random seed starts at a random place in ram and just moves along, reading the data size for the requested number then moving along
[11:01] <Ademan> generally it's from things like hard drive seek time or temperature
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Ademan: thats how random numbers are made
[11:02] <kop_> Ademan, just had to poke
[11:02] <Ademan> lol :-p
[11:02] <Ademan> just in case
[11:03] <Gorlist> Hi, slightly confused on debootstrap
[11:03] <falken_za> is there security issues i should be aware of when using IRC?
[11:03] <hajar> hi , my computer  turns off and display a black screen with message ( run local boot) , does any one help me??
[11:03] <jeeves_Moss> how can I track down why one of my sites says it's having hundreds of accesses from "localhost"?  there are no pages listed in the logs that it's accessing, it's just 2 #s
[11:03] <Gorlist> using it, do you install new copy of ubuntu on the partion, then expand that parition to become primary?
[11:04] <Gorlist> after of course setting up grub
[11:04] <Ademan> jeeves_Moss: iptables logs? /var/log/syslog ?
[11:04] <kop_> and all this time I thought random input initiated in the hid input graphical display output device
[11:05] <vigo> Thank you
[11:06] <jeeves_Moss> Ademan, thanks, I'll have a look.  It's a brand new domain that I added.  none of the other domains on this server have this problem
[11:06] <MrGuest> Why does my gedit saves files with \n at the end of file, but my mate's gedit saves same files with \r\n ???
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> falken_za: people could ddc you a malicius file if you auto accept stuff
[11:06] <kop_> dcc
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> MrGuest: check settings for gedit
[11:07] <MrGuest> ActionParsnip: i can't find anything in gedit :((
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> falken_za: if you run the client as root, and the irc app is attacked and captured, the attacker can gain root access
[11:08] <JoeLow> how gay is vmware workstation that their serial keys are different for both windows and linux
[11:08] <Guest98863> hi
[11:08] <Guest98863> i was wondering if someone could help me out a little
[11:08] <MrGuest> ActionParsnip: i think it is some system settings. Even when he copy text - it has that stupid \r\n ...
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> JoeLow: its a different program, one is for windows, one is for linux
[11:09] <oCean_> Guest98863: just shoot, and if someone is able to help.. you'll hear all about it
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> MrGuest: you could delete geditrc from wherever its stored in ~/ and try rerunning the app
[11:09] <Guest98863> ok
[11:09] <Guest98863> well
[11:09] <Guest98863> im installing ubuntu on my laptop
[11:09] <Guest98863> and im trying to get the wireless working
[11:10] <Guest98863> but... it can see my access point, but when i try to enter my wep key, it won't connect
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: run lspci, one line will identify the device
[11:10] <Guest98863> yes.... ive run that
[11:11] <Guest98863> i had to run that to install ndiswrapper
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: make sure you set the wep to be hexadecimal when you enter it, if you can see the AP, its working
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: do you mean wep or wpa?
[11:11] <Guest98863> the problem is, my wep key is a 10-digit key
[11:11] <Guest98863> its wep
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> ok just checking
[11:11] <JoeLow> ActionParsnip: yeah but its same software, its a pain
[11:11] <bsusa> hello all, what is an easy way to start an application at startup?
[11:11] <oCean_> Guest98863: see this link for troubleshooting wireless: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[11:12] <z0mbix> bsusa: command line or gui bootup?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> JoeLow: well its free so just get another serial
[11:12] <Guest98863> when i enter my wep key, it processes a little while, and then it pops up with the security window... with a very long string of characters in place of the key that i had entered
[11:12] <JoeLow> 6.5 is not free?
[11:12] <JoeLow> 30day free trial
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> JoeLow: it is the same software but its not as its on a different OS
[11:12] <raven> hi everyone
[11:12] <bsusa> its a gui app its Mythtv
[11:12] <quibbler> bsusa, systen>perferences>sessions
[11:12] <raven> could anyone telle me something about "NULLMAILER"? what is it??
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> JoeLow: use virtualbox instead
[11:12] <oCean_> Guest98863: and also this one on the forums, which seems to address your problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=635110
[11:12] <JoeLow> yes i know, but my company just bought 20 windsows keys :/
[11:12] <JoeLow> wonder if i can trade a windows one back with them for a nix one
[11:13] <Gorlist> how can you find out if your using software Raid as oppose to a hardware controller?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> JoeLow: give the vm guys an email, see if its possible
[11:13] <JoeLow> yeah, il try that, doubt it though :/
[11:13] <jeeves_Moss> what would "localhost - - [20/Jan/2009:22:51:41 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 957" mean?  I see it over and over in my access log!
[11:14] <sleepy_cat> c_sql
[11:14] <kop_> Gorlist,  the hardware raid cost lots more :-)
[11:14] <Myrtti> jeeves_Moss: check HTTP 200
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> JoeLow: you could run a dedicated ETX box to run multiple VMs on a dedicated linux box
[11:14] <Gorlist>  :) this is on a dedicated remote server
[11:15] <Myrtti> jeeves_Moss: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_200
[11:15] <Peddy> delayed thanks for mp3 tip ActionParsnip
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> JoeLow: we use that at work, we have ITX boxes running 9 VMs
[11:15] <Gorlist> if does have a hardware controller, but in theory they use software for it
[11:15] <Guest98863> well
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Peddy: np bro
[11:15] <JoeLow> ActionParsnip: we do that, but i need something on my laptop
[11:15] <Gorlist> just wondered if fdisk -l would tell you
[11:15] <Guest98863> it looks like i have a rtl8180 wireless adapter
[11:15] <jeeves_Moss> Myrtti, thanks.  I'll look
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Peddy: you can do it with video too but you need a mencoder command to sync the audio again
[11:15] <Guest98863> so... is this a known bug with unbuntu?
[11:15] <JoeLow> we have an ESX cluster for emulating network infra, about 40 boxes on there
[11:15] <kop_> Gorlist, dmesg | less
[11:16] <Peddy> ActionParsnip, with MPG video I think you can just do cat mp1.mpg mp2.mpg > finished.mpg. Bye.
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> JoeLow: you could manually edit /etc/network/interfaces but it will circumvent ANY settings in your network manager app
[11:16] <Gorlist> kop_ ta
[11:16] <Gorlist> kop_: ta
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> peddyyou can but the video and audio go out of sync, theres a real quick command you need to run to resync
[11:16] <jeeves_Moss> Myrtti, why would it be coming from the LocalHost though?
[11:16] <raven> could anyone telle me something about "NULLMAILER"? what is it??
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> !info nullmailer
[11:17] <shubbar> anyone has a Canon laser printer?
[11:17] <Myrtti> jeeves_Moss: that I wouldn't know. You might have some scripts running there
[11:17] <kop_> Gorlist, I don't allways do it the easy way but I try to help
[11:17] <jeeves_Moss> Myrtti, not on that domain.  it was JUST made like 4 days ago!
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | shubbar
[11:17] <raven> thx
[11:18] <snuitje> goodeve ./
[11:18] <rbowes> Deany, I fixed it
[11:18] <Guest98863> if i have a linksys WPC11 ver 4, should this work just fine with the latest ubuntu?
[11:18] <rbowes> I was udev rules
[11:18] <kop_> having trouble watching commercial dvd's -- point me in the right direction ?
[11:18] <Gorlist> kop_: well it works locally but wired result on the remote. TCP: Treason uncloaked!
[11:18] <rbowes> I found the answer in a comment here (I added my own comment explaining what I did) http://mydebian.blogdns.org/?p=177#comments
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | Guest98863
[11:19] <snuitje> To support a server running 8.04, I need to continuously backport packages from Jaunty. I'm wondering if there's a tool that can automatically keep track of new source packages and pdebuild them, is there anything like that?
[11:19] <Guest98863> ive spent like 5 hours now on this problem.... ive been through all the self-help websites
[11:19] <shubbar> my Canon laser printer stopped working, don't know why.
[11:19] <kop_> Gorlist, learn something new every day
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: its not really the card you are driving, if you run lspci or lsusb depending on its interface, you will get an identifier which you can websearch
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> shubbar: what model?
[11:20] <Guest98863> yes... and i get rtl8180
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: then websearch to see if that chip is supported, or how to set it up
[11:20] <Guest98863> uhg
[11:20] <Guest98863> i did
[11:20] <Some_ux> hi,  is the pre-up directive in  /etc/network/interfaces used to run scripts Prior to the interface going up ?
[11:20] <shubbar> its Canon Lasershot LBP3300; its status monitor gives me this error "captstatusui Socket Error"
[11:20] <balrog__> how am i supposed to use the package doc-gnome-hig ?
[11:20] <Guest98863> like ive said.... ive spent 5 hours on this
[11:21] <Guest98863> and this card is *still* not working
[11:21] <oCean_> Guest98863: did you read the link I gave? It explicit on the rtl8180, 8185 etc
[11:21] <Deany> rbowes, glad its fixed. Wish ubuntu wouldnt hide such things tho, should be something to just add/remove hardware
[11:21] <Guest98863> yes... i just read it
[11:22] <Guest98863> so... i have to add an "x" to the end of the SSID?
[11:22] <snuitje> also, certain packages require a patch, to backport from a newer debhelper to the 8.04 version
[11:22] <Guest98863> that's a pretty odd workaround
[11:22] <zash_> i have apparently broken network-manager, dpkg-reconfigure says that it is broken or not fully installed and i can't reinstall
[11:22] <zash_> and before that nm changed my hostname and broke stuff
[11:22] <oCean_> Guest98863: The step-by-step guide is pretty self-explainatory. If you don't like the workaround, well... don't?
[11:22] <snuitje> writing that patch isn't a problem, i was just wondering if i'd have to script this build system entirely myself, and if so, what would be the best way to go about doing it
[11:22] <zash_> apt-get install -f gives this http://p.zash.se/fiSIIQ.txt
[11:23] <aprilhare> hello. i downloaded ioquake3 from ioquake3.org (there is no package in the repositories) and installed it. I get the error: "./ioquake3.x86_64: error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[11:23] <zash_> and due to the hostname-changing i cant start x-things
[11:23] <Guest98863> well... my question would be: would i have to manually connect to every single access point using this workaround?
[11:23] <snuitje> package-import.ubuntu.com seems to run very unstable, i'd rather not keep hammering that server
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net/
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: theres a native driver to compile
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: you will need kernel source
[11:25] <bsusa> thankyou all
[11:25] <snuitje> aprilhare: sudo apt-get install libopenal1
[11:25] <Guest98863> thanks ActionParsnip ... that seems to be the first promising website ive seen....
[11:26] <oCean_> aprilhare: 8.10 has libopenal1 (1.3.253) So the so.0 seems the old version
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: i have good websearch skills, plus i dont use oNLY google like most
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> shubbar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/CanonPrinters/Canon_LBP_2900?highlight=%28CategoryHardware%29
[11:26] <bonhoffer> i have a form of checkboxes -- if anyone clicks "yes" they have to provide an explaination -- is there a good ajax/rails helper to make an explanation box appear on a checked box?
[11:27] <zash_> My NetworkManager broke and I tried reinstalling it, dpkg-reconfigure nm and apt-get install -f gives this: http://p.zash.se/iJ-h_g.txt
[11:27] <oCean_> bonhoffer: why would you ask that here?
[11:27] <bonhoffer> oops -- thought i was in the rails room
[11:27] <Boohbah> bonhoffer: maybe #ruby or #ajax would be a better place to ask
[11:27] <Boohbah> bonhoffer: :D
[11:27] <bonhoffer> just woke up 2 min ago
[11:27] <oCean_> bonhoffer: ok - np
[11:28] <rbowes> I did a write-up here: http://robinbowes.com/article.php/20090123115731749
[11:28] <Exalan> hello, help me please) Why opera lagging when i serf sites with flash content?
[11:29] <Guest98863> okay...ActionParsnip.... do I just do a "make install" while in su mode?
[11:29] <silv3r_m001> hi there.. I am looking for a desktop db software apart from oobase and kexi... is there any other... or some java based ones which run on linux
[11:29] <Guest98863> it doesn't look like he has an install giude
[11:29] <shubbar> ActionParsnip, thanks, my drivers are 1.6 and the one there are 1.8. i'll update them and hope it works
[11:29] <balrog__> how am i supposed to use the package doc-gnome-hig ?
[11:30] <zash_> My NetworkManager broke and I tried reinstalling it, dpkg-reconfigure nm and apt-get install -f gives this: http://p.zash.se/iJ-h_g.txt
[11:30] <bartmon> Hi! I'm having problems with my graphic driver again. Seems DRI doesn't work with the opensource ati driver package: http://paste.ubuntu.com/108541/  Any pointers? I've found a forum thread suggesting that i reinstall various libmesa packages but that didn't work.
[11:30] <zetheroo> anyone here been following the kernel panics issue with Ubuntu 8.10?
[11:31] <zetheroo> seems to be an issue which is not getting any "professional" attention in the Ubuntu forums
[11:31] <aprilhare> oCean_, snuitje, yes it's already installed so yeah the so.0 is no good?
[11:32] <Nemesis> Can anyone here help me with an acpi settings problem in eeebuntu? I already asked in the forums, but no replies yet.
[11:32] <aprilhare> sorry about the dela
[11:32] <kop_> zetheroo, not experienced it yet , sounds like loads of fun
[11:32] <aprilhare> sorry about the delay even
[11:32] <aprilhare> it say somewhere on launchpad that it has been compiled for ubuntu intrepid but i have no idea where the package is
[11:32] <aprilhare> says even
[11:33] <oCean_> aprilhare: I'm not sure if it can work with the newer version. You could try that by creating a link in /usr/lib from libopenal.so.0 to 'the real one', libopenal.so.1.3.253
[11:34] <jeeves_Moss> what causes a Toshiba laptop to lock up when using the restricted nVidia drivers?
[11:34] <zetheroo> kop_: I am not being bothered by it since I run Ubuntu Hardy and Kubuntu Intrepid ... but there are quite a few people having this issue ... and I assure you its no fun ... :-/
[11:34] <oCean_> aprilhare: however, this error might be just one of many to come, when it relies on older libraries
[11:34]  * NightReaper found a solution to the partition limitations. So long ppl.
[11:35] <Nemesis> Can anyone here help me with an acpi settings problem in eeebuntu? I already asked in the forums, but no replies yet.
[11:35] <aprilhare> oCean_, that seems to have got me further :)
[11:35] <kop_> zetheroo, any specific hardware ? I use 8.10 on several boxes here and have not seen the problem
[11:35] <bartmon> !ask > Nemesis
[11:35] <zetheroo> kop_: any of them laptops?
[11:36] <kop_> two
[11:36] <oCean_> aprilhare: nice!
[11:36] <jeeves_Moss> what causes a Toshiba laptop to lock up when using the restricted nVidia drivers?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: just run: sudo make install
[11:36] <kop_> s53w benq and a cf-29 toughbook
[11:36] <aprilhare> oCean_, give me a minute while i install the quake 3 files to tell you more
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: you dont need su, it shouldnt work as the root is disabled
[11:37] <oCean_> Nemesis: you've been at #ubuntu-eeepc ?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> shubbar: good choice bro
[11:37] <Nemesis> I'll try that chat room. Thanks.
[11:38] <Guest98863> my last question, ActionParsnip... i promise....   would i need to uninstall ndiswwrapper?
[11:38] <Guest98863> first?
[11:38] <shubbar> actionparsnip, you mean in buying the printer or in updating the drivr?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: if the driver works then I would
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: you can always blacklist the driver but keep it installed
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> shubbar: upgrading the driver
[11:39] <onetinsoldier> zash_: hello, i can probably help you with your problem
[11:39] <kop_> zetheroo, the others are BX440 asus intel , msi core2 quad , amd 64 quad , PIII 500 dell wtf and some old amd 1g thingy
[11:39] <bartmon> Hmmm, new kernel - reboot!
[11:39] <Guest98863> oh...okay.... thanks again AP
[11:39] <zash_> onetinsoldier: i seem to have some solved the dpkg/apt issue
[11:40] <nesoi> what's a good 13" or so lightweight laptop for ubuntu?
[11:40] <onetinsoldier> zash_: ok, good.
[11:40] <zash_> onetinsoldier: but now it nm wont start
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> nesoi: i'd say eeepc
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> nesoi: its offtopic here also
[11:41] <onetinsoldier> zash_: oh? hmmm. any message or error?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> !ot | nesoi
[11:41] <kop_> nesoi, Panasonic CF-29 Toughbook
[11:41] <nesoi> ActionParsnip: eeepc is atom no?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> nesoi: its offtopic
[11:41] <nesoi> I feel like atom is too slow
[11:41] <nesoi> okie ActionParsnip
[11:41] <zash_> onetinsoldier: it seems the reinstall did not replace /etc/init.d/NetworkManager which is no an emtpy file
[11:41] <onetinsoldier> zash_: how are you trying to start it? maybe you need to make sure the service is running first
[11:41] <nesoi> thanks kop_
[11:42] <onetinsoldier> zash_: oh, i see
[11:42] <baz_> is there a way to make nautlus remember to use a certain program to open a type of file? for example in windows, if i wanted to open all xml files with notepad rather than firefox... I would choose "open with...", select "notepad" then click on "always use this program..."
[11:42] <nesoi> ok, how about a support question: is there a fix for the flash 10 bug where it overlays everything no matter what (in firefox)?
[11:43] <jeeves_Moss> has anyone run into problems with the restricted nVidia drivers?  My system's screen with flash, then go to a "greyed out" state (like when you're doing a package install), then lock up for a min or so
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> baz_: yep, thats the way to do it
[11:43] <zash_> onetinsoldier: and if i delete that file and run reinstall dpkg fails
[11:43] <onetinsoldier> zash_: how about try reinstalling it, even though it's supposedly already installed? --> apt-get install --reinstall network-manager
[11:43] <nesoi> also, if I add my DNS servers in network setup why are they not saved next time I reboot?
[11:44] <aprilhare> ociean it works fine now many thanks
[11:44] <aprilhare> oCean_ even
[11:44] <baz_> ActionParsnip, so no way to do it in ubuntu?
[11:44] <onetinsoldier> zash_: how about uninstalling it and then reinstalling it from scratch?
[11:44] <oCean_> aprilhare: yay! happy gaming :)
[11:44] <zash_> onetinsoldier: trying to purge now
[11:44] <aprilhare> heh thanks :)
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> baz_: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg10t10.htm
[11:45] <nepse> anyone know the name of the caps/num/scroll-lock indicator one can have on the gnome panel?
[11:45] <aprilhare> oCean_, the game is a bit aged no high def widescreen mode
[11:45] <onetinsoldier> zash_: roger
[11:45] <aprilhare> but i'll make do :)
[11:45] <zash_> onetinsoldier: okay, no there's no init.d/nm, installing should fix
[11:45] <smokie> hey guys, can someone help me to create a bin script that will install a bnc bouncer if i typed "insta-bnc" for exmple?
[11:46] <nesoi> yah but I asked 4 lightweight!
[11:46] <onetinsoldier> zash_: yeah, i would think so
[11:46] <nesoi> sorry
[11:46] <nesoi> what about my dns question?
[11:46] <oCean_> aprilhare: I'm not much of a gamer, but you might want to have a look at nexuiz, (http://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/)
[11:46] <baz_> ActionParsnip, thats awesome! I would like to request that be put into the other "open with" menu in the right click - much more intuitive - how can i do that?
[11:46]  * oCean_ is out for lunch
[11:47] <zash_> onetinsoldier: it seems it's now working, thanks :D
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> baz_: log it as a bug, you'll get an email saying "is this a bug or functionality request"
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> !bug | baz_
[11:47] <zash_> and what is up with ubuntu wanting to reboot instead of just reloading services
[11:47] <baz_> ActionParsnip, cool
[11:47] <onetinsoldier> zash_: cool. you're welcome, although i didn't do anything really :-)
[11:48] <Nemesis> I tried the #ubuntu-eeepc channel, but no one replied. I'm still having that acpi issue.
[11:48] <nesoi> so now that I'm ON topic no one is answering!
[11:48] <hemmet> I installed ubuntu on my brothers computer, weird thing is that when ubuntu boots it hangs, but if i press a button it starts loading again, then stops. If i hold the button it keeps loading normally. Wtf?
[11:48] <hemmet> im on a hp pavilion laptop
[11:48] <baz_> Whats the best, most flexible way to connect to a remote server through nautlis if I had full control of the remote server... would it be SFTP?
[11:48] <gordonjcp> nesoi: what was the question?
[11:48] <zash_> onetinsoldier: thanks anyways
[11:49] <hemmet> baz_: probably, not sure about nautilus but SFTP is a good protocol
[11:49] <onetinsoldier> zash_: sure :)
[11:49] <nesoi> question was, if I update my dns servers in network setup, why are they not saved next time I reboot?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> baz_: depends what protocol the server is using, you dont choose as you want
[11:49] <gordonjcp> nesoi: because they're overwritten by the DHCP client
[11:49] <hemmet> ActionParsnip: he said he had full control
[11:49] <baz_> ActionParsnip, i am a full admin on the server - i can do anything
[11:49] <gordonjcp> nesoi: are you putting them in /etc/resolv.conf?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> hemmet: edit your menu.lst so you can watch the bootup instead of it hiding behind the splash
[11:49] <nesoi> gordonjcp: so how do I overrule the dhcp
[11:49] <nesoi> gordonjcp: no, using the guil app
[11:49] <nesoi> gui
[11:49] <hemmet> ActionParsnip: how do i do that?
[11:49] <gordonjcp> nesoi: no idea, I don't do GUIs
[11:50] <nesoi> so if I put 'em in /etc/resolv.conf  then they won't be overruled?
[11:50] <onetinsoldier> nesoi: i know something that might be a temp fix
[11:50] <hemmet> ActionParsnip: you mean /boot/grub/menu.lst right?
[11:50] <nesoi> what onetinsoldier ?
[11:50] <baz_> I connected to my server using SFTP and wanted to edit a file, however the file was read-only... is there a way thru nautlis to change that on the file, or over-ride it... or do i have to resort to the command line?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> hemmet: add nosplash to your kernel in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> hemmet: make a backup of the file first
[11:51] <onetinsoldier> nesoi: what is the dns config file that's not being saved?
[11:51] <IrishDavid> hello, is there any problem with installing both the 32-bit kernel and the 64-bit kernel in the same ubuntu system?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> baz_: you can mount sftp like a partition
[11:51] <IrishDavid> or is it even possible?
[11:52] <nesoi> onetinsoldier: I dunno... I just pasted in the opendns addresses into the admin/network gui
[11:52] <Guest98863> what is a good, cheap pcmia card that will work flawlessly with unbuntu 8.10?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> baz_: if your username only allows read only access, thats a config on the server
[11:52] <onetinsoldier> nesoi: the temp fix i am thinking of is, if your /etc/resolv.conf file is being overwritten by dhcp every time you reboot
[11:52] <budiw> i have problem with my KVM installation
[11:52] <baz_> ActionParsnip, is mounting different than using the "connect to..." ?
[11:53] <baz_> ActionParsnip, I mean I know it is different, but does mounting give you more options/power
[11:53] <nesoi> onetinsoldier: does dhcp overwrite resolv.conf?
[11:53] <nesoi> I want it to give me the ip and gateway but not the dns
[11:53] <onetinsoldier> nesoi: if that's the case then i think the real fix is for you to configure the behavior of the dhcp client
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> baz+no, just makes it appear as a local resource
[11:54] <onetinsoldier> nesoi: i believe it does
[11:54] <nesoi> onetinsoldier: how do I do that??
[11:54] <nesoi> that's sucky
[11:54] <onetinsoldier> nesoi: that's what i don't know. but the temp fix is the following command...   chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf
[11:54] <nesoi> what does that do?
[11:54] <baz_> ActionParsnip, you are right actually - to edit the read-only file even thru terminal, I have to sudo... is there a way to sudo thru nautlius on SFTP?
[11:55] <onetinsoldier> nesoi: although, i'm not actually certain that will work, but you are welcome to try it
[11:55] <nesoi> but what does it do?
[11:55] <onetinsoldier> nesoi: look at the man page for the chattr command
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> baz_: you can gksudo nautilus
[11:55] <Guest98863> alright.... can anyone please tell me where i can get the ubuntu source for the 2.6.27-9 kernel?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> baz_: keep its use to a MINIMAL for security
[11:56] <baz_> ActionParsnip, and that will  use the server's sudo?
[11:56] <onetinsoldier> nesoi: A file with the ‘i’ attribute cannot be modified: it cannot be deleted or renamed,
[11:56] <nesoi> oic
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> baz_: not sure, if you mount with better options then users will be able to write
[11:56] <nesoi> sounds kludgy :)
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> baz_: which will eliminate the need to gksudo nautilus
[11:57] <baz_> ActionParsnip, u have been very helpful, thanks!
[11:57] <baz_> ActionParsnip, oh wait, what kind of mount options should i read up on?
[11:58] <onetinsoldier> nesoi: yes, i agree. hence, i would consider it just a 'temp fix' for now
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> baz_: check this: http://www.hafenscher.net/wiki/index.php?page=Mount_USB_stick_read_and_writable_for_users
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> baz_: its how to mount usb user writable but a mount is a mount
[11:58] <baz_> ActionParsnip, awesome
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> baz_: or read man mount
[11:58] <quibbler> Guest98863, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.27-9.19
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: apt-cache search 2.6.27-9 | grep source
[12:01] <smokie> can someone give me a quick idea on creating a shell script that well responed to install-eggdrop for example
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.27-9-generic
[12:03] <Guest98863> heh heh.... that would work, if i had internet on the laptop ;)
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> then pull the deb down and whack it on cd or usb
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> then run: sudo dpkg -i <debfile>
[12:04] <Guest98863> im just wondering how much of those packages i need off that site to make the rtl8180 driver
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> you need build essential, you can use your install cd as a repo
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> you can use the versions on the cd to get sorted, then update then recompile with the new compiler
[12:07] <Mozambique> hi
[12:07] <funtikx> hi
[12:07] <Mozambique> how are u
[12:08] <baz_> ActionParsnip, I am trying to host a website on a ubuntu server. By default apache likes to be in /var/www, but like I was mentioning earlier there are strict perms on this folder. In general how do people deal with this? Do they mount the folder in special ways as you suggested earlier? Or do they just give their user account perms on that specific folder? Whats the SOP?
[12:08] <Guest98863> lets say i were to go plug my laptop in my router by cable..... can i just run one app-get and it will just download all the necessary source files?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> baz_: just use sudo to copy stuff to it
[12:09] <mib_730riq17> hi
[12:09] <onetinsoldier> yo
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> baz_: its good to keep its permissions so that it keeps secure
[12:09] <arverne1> How to format and mount an old HD. I've just installed an old HD, and using gparted, I deleted the partitions on it, and created a new partition. THis HD, will be used for backup only. Gparted shows me /dev/sda4 as extended and /dev/sda5 as ext3. How do I do to give a "label" to that hD (I want it to be name "backups"), and do I have to delete everything on it again to get rid of the boot which is always installed on it?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> !label | arverne1
[12:09] <baz_> ActionParsnip, i'm going to be using ANT build tasks and all that crap for deployment - still try to do it with sudo?
[12:10] <Boohbah> Guest98863: you will probably want to do 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' in order to get an IP address from your router
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> baz_: sure, you will need sudo to copy to the folder as the folder is owned by root:root
[12:10] <onetinsoldier> arverne1: you use the 'tune2fs' command
[12:10] <Guest98863> well.... it works right when i plug it in
[12:11] <Guest98863> i just need to know what i should run to automatically download all necessary source for the latest kernel
[12:11] <onetinsoldier> arverne1: tune2fs -L <volume-label>
[12:11] <Guest98863> because i downloaded a driver that needs the kernel source
[12:11] <shubbar> still not printing, it's Status Monitor gives Printer Error: Check the DevicePath of /etc/ccpd.conf
[12:12] <shubbar> and the /etc/ccpd.conf file has a DevicePatch /dev/usb/lp0
[12:13] <arverne1> onetinsoldier: and what about "e2label" ?
[12:13] <mib_730riq17> how to use autoconf and automake to change the configuration file of an existing project?
[12:13] <puddle> wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
[12:13] <onetinsoldier> arverne1: hmm, probably even better!
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: install it from the install cd
[12:13] <puddle> 1347
[12:13] <puddle> new record hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[12:14] <baz_> remind me again why sudo is secure? if someone compromises my user account they can sudo all they want and its just like having root
[12:15] <Sjimmie_> baz_: becuase it asks for your password?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: the compiling suite will not be the latest but you have no www connection
[12:15] <Sjimmie_> compromising ur account doesnt mean, knowing ur password :)
[12:15] <baz_> Sjimmie_, wouldnt someone who compromised my account have my pw?
[12:15] <vigo> Is WINE a good or the preferred app to access the windows part on the same box?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest98863: is there any way you can use a wired link to get fully updated and install the build-essential metapackage
[12:15] <Sjimmie_> baz_: and how would anyone comprise ur account?
[12:15] <mib_730riq17> who
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> vigo: wine will allow you to run windows apps
[12:15] <mib_730riq17> wine certainly not
[12:15] <Guest98863> yes... i can plug it directly into the router
[12:16] <vigo> Thank you
[12:16] <baz_> Sjimmie_, if compromising accounts was impossible then we would all login as root
[12:16] <whitefang> how do i get kde to show up in my session manager? i just installed kdebase and all its depends
[12:16] <SlimeyPete> whitefang: why didn't you just install kubuntu-desktop?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> vigo: you need ntfs-3g to get read / write access to the files on the windows boot
[12:16] <Sjimmie_> baz_: no we use personolized/limited accounts to protect us from our own stupidity, not for external security reasons
[12:17] <Sjimmie_> baz_: sudo protects you from doing something stupid becuase it requires you to type sudo before it and enter your password, so it makes you think twice
[12:17] <vigo> Ahhh,,,I could not install some ActuveX thing to make WorldWind open.
[12:17] <Mihasi> can anyone please help me to get my dual head working? I'm using Ubuntu Studio 8.10 and my GPU is an ATI Mobility Radeon x700. Cloning the desktop works fine, but from the moment I try configuring it for independent desktops X won't start anymore...
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> vigo: i very much douobt you will be able to execute the apps over the other system due to registry keys and dlls
[12:18] <ortsvorsteher> I am trying to identify my left Alt key on keyboard. i am a little confused, cause the alt key doesnt print out in xev a real key code. i pasted output from key in xev and my .Xmodemap. http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/393842/ can someone tell me where in .xmodemap i have to insert what to become the left alt key to run?
[12:18] <vigo> It is the same box, same drive
[12:18] <scizzo-> baz_: I believe you are looking at sudo in the wrong way
[12:18] <baz_> Sjimmie_, hmmm... really? thats all its for... so the windows way of clicking "ok" or "run" whatever achieves the same thing while being more convenient
[12:18] <scizzo-> baz_: you are looking at it like it is root
[12:18] <whitefang> SlimeyPete: i dont know...should i?
[12:19] <smokie> how can i make my shell script download something to the directory i use the command in?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> smokie: its alredy exists, use wget
[12:19] <baz_> scizzo-, isn't it kind'of
[12:19] <vigo> I got Ubuntu up and running again from Backups, maybe I can figure this out.
[12:19] <SlimeyPete> whitefang: that's the usual way to install KDE on Ubuntu. It'll install KDE & all the standard KDE apps, and it will add KDE to your session manager. However it will also alter your splash screen to say "Kubuntu" which might be annoying if you're in love with the colour orange :)
[12:19] <scizzo-> baz_: however sudo is a admin _tool_ for controlling the rights to and for special users......using sudo you can setup _rules_ that will tell the one user exactly what he has rights to work with by using sudo that might require root or admin priviliges
[12:20] <whitefang> SlimeyPete: i am in love with the color orange :(
[12:20] <sivel_> hello all
[12:20] <sivel_> quick question
[12:20] <scizzo-> baz_: no.... sudo != root
[12:20] <vigo> I Thank you kindly for the help.
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> whitefang: I think it's possible to get the old Ubuntu splash screen & login manager back afterwards, but I don't know the details
[12:20] <smokie> ActionParsnip, ah, so if i used wget "ftp.eggheads.org" for example then contine to tar -zxvf eggdropx.x.tar and it will untar it in the directly i used the bash script in?
[12:20] <scizzo-> baz_: sudo is a way to say (su "do") this
[12:21] <whitefang> im having trouble running world of warcraft with wine...its all good, except i can't alt-tab and do other stuff...from what ive read, i think compiz might be to blame...
[12:21] <whitefang> so i thought id try kde and see how that went
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> smokie: no you'd need to specify the full path to the file, and you dont need quotes
[12:21] <sivel_> how can i add a custom command at boot, when the progy im trying to run is not in the system wide bin folder, i.e cd test;./test
[12:21] <baz_> scizzo-, interesting... by default tho it has equivalent rights as root... right?
[12:21] <scizzo-> baz_: for the first user account created on the machine....
[12:21] <smokie> ActionParsnip, do you mine giving me an example? like how would i make it untar to the path the user im using?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> smokie: you could write the script that wiil take a file path to get, and extract it automatically if you want
[12:22] <Sjimmie> baz_: right, su = switch user, do = do as that use, have a look at /etc/sudoers
[12:22] <Guest42402> sivel_: couldn't you just symlink it to the bin folder?
[12:22] <sivel_> how would i go about doing that?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> smokie: if you put the script in /usr/bin it will always work in the current pwd
[12:22] <smokie> ActionParsnip, thats exactly what i want to do actually..
[12:22] <dns53> sivel_ use the full path? /your/folder/bin/appname, or having a wrapper script?
[12:22] <scizzo-> baz_: however lets just say that you have a account that you want to only have access to /etc/init.d/apache2 for restart and so on.....you can do that without changing the access rights to the actual file and do it in sudoers
[12:22] <Guest98863> ActionParsnip: what do i run once i get my laptop wired to my router to download all the kernel source that i need to make?
[12:22] <scizzo-> baz_: or a directory and so on
[12:23] <Guest42402> sivel_ sudo ln -s <path to comand location> <path to desired bin folder>
[12:23] <scizzo-> baz_: like I said...its a admin tool to keep track of who has access to what in the admin features
[12:23] <smokie> ah cool ActionParsnip, so in other words if i used the "install-egg" command on user smokie, it will download and extract under this home dir? good to know
[12:23] <baz_> scizzo-, ohhhh
[12:23] <baz_> scizzo-, cool actually
[12:23] <sivel_> so, i would put the command in the etc/init.d file? /home/test/test/./test?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> smokie: it will execute in the working directory
[12:24] <Mihasi> can anyone please help me to get my dual head working? I'm using Ubuntu Studio 8.10 and my GPU is an ATI Mobility Radeon x700 (proprietary driver). Cloning the desktop works fine, but from the moment I try configuring it for independent desktops X won't start anymore...
[12:24] <jeeves_Moss> has ANYONE got the nVidia drivers to work on Toshiba laptops?
[12:24] <baz_> scizzo-, one thing i find insecure is my cube neighbor always peaking to see me type my password 1000 times a day - is there a defense to this
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> smokie: so if you are in a subfolder of ~/ it will work there
[12:24] <scizzo-> baz_: so you can tell a user to have access to _ONLY_ apache2 in /etc/init.d/ or the whole directory or the like....if he only has access to apache2 then he can't access or restart the other services in that directory
[12:24] <smokie> ActionParsnip, cool thanks for the info
[12:24] <|911> Hello, im trying to patch my wifi driver, rtl8187b, to support injection, can i just run the patch or do i need to do something diff, thx
[12:24] <Guest42402> sivel_ yes that should do it for you
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> smokie: just use $1 in the script
[12:25] <scizzo-> baz_: that is more of a password protection question
[12:25] <scizzo-> baz_: its a more standard question about security IMO
[12:25] <smokie> ActionParsnip, what does that supposed to do?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> smokie: takes the first arguement, it'll let you use the script more often
[12:26] <jeeves_Moss> has ANYONE got the nVidia drivers to work on Toshiba laptops?
[12:26] <baz_> scizzo-, kind'of... the nuance being that it is sudo that keeps making u expose it
[12:26] <sivel_> that would be the correct context then? /path/to/app/./appname, or /path/to/app/appname?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> nvidia | jeeves_Moss
[12:26] <baz_> scizzo-, windows just asks u to click "run" or whatever
[12:26] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, followed it thanks.  still locks up
[12:26] <theczar> sivel_ /path/to/app/appname
[12:26] <scizzo-> baz_: well you can always use it as a combo....
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: what does lspci | grep -i vga
[12:27] <scizzo-> baz_: create the admin account...then another account......su to the admin account when needed or so
[12:27] <sivel_> thank you kindly
[12:27] <dns53> sivel_ what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:27] <w00dr0w-help-MEE> anyone here
[12:27] <Adam-85> Hi all
[12:27] <daredevilthere> Hey i want to install Mathlab in Ubuntu How can i install it.Is there a linux version of mathlab too or i have to intstall in using wine?
[12:27] <scizzo-> baz_: you can still become root using sudo
[12:27] <scizzo-> baz_: sudo -s -H
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> !info mathlab
[12:27] <theczar> sivel_ the ./ is not necissary for this, that is only needed when you run a comand which is not located in one of the sys bin folders directly through the terminal
[12:27] <scizzo-> baz_: type your password and done
[12:27] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300] (rev a1)
[12:28] <daredevilthere> !info matlab
[12:28] <multik> g'day all
[12:28] <w00dr0w-help-MEE> YES, ok, I need some serious help (thouth it's not exactly with ubuntu itself
[12:28] <sivel_> gotcha
[12:28] <Adam-85> I just installed       Ubuntu 8.10 32 bit and my hardware is dell gx 150 with builtin VGA
[12:28] <oobe> !info joe
[12:28] <dns53> daredevilthere wine is your only option currently but there are projects that are coming close to it
[12:28] <sivel_> one more q on the issue..
[12:28] <ortsvorsteher> I am trying to identify my left Alt key on keyboard. i am a little confused, cause the alt key doesnt print out in xev a real key code. i pasted output from key in xev and my .Xmodemap. http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/393842/ can someone tell me where in .xmodemap i have to insert what to become the left alt key to run?
[12:28] <theczar> sivel_ i'll answer it if I can
[12:28] <daredevilthere> dns53: to how do i install it?
[12:28] <Adam-85> my problem is when start my ubuntu cannt see any interface
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: its supported byy nvidia-glx-173
[12:29] <sivel_> normally when i run this app. i screen it:  screen -A -m -d- S test ./test.py (options)
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: uninstall all the nvidia fluff you have then install that
[12:29] <dns53> daredevilthere well sudo apt-get install wine , then in a terminal run wine installer.exe
[12:29] <modnar> @adam-85 - you get to a terminal/command line only?
[12:30] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, is the nvicia-glx-173 an actual package?
[12:30] <Adam-85> yeah
[12:30] <w00dr0w-help-MEE> anyone mind helping me for a min or two. Id really appreciate your time...
[12:30] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, and is that the GLX driver?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: yes
[12:30] <ortsvorsteher> !ask | w00dr0w-help-MEE
[12:30]  * w00dr0w-help-MEE is freaking out ATM
[12:30] <Adam-85> i can acces my command as Ctrl _ Alt  + F1 or 2
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: that will give you 3d accelleration
[12:30] <baz_> scizzo-, that ends up being similar in a workflow sense because sudo stays live for 15 mins anyway... then when u are done u close the term - an hour later u need to do something else... etc
[12:30] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, thanks again.  this one has been bothering me for months
[12:30] <modnar> @ adam-85 - try startx or /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:31] <dns53> sivel_ is it an app that runs a service? you could copy an existing /etc/init.d/ script and put in your app name
[12:31] <dns53> !ask > w00dr0w-help-MEE
[12:31] <theczar> sivel_ i suggest writing a script which runs the screen comand and then placing that script in the init.d folder
[12:31] <w00dr0w-help-MEE> Im using linuxMCE and I think my neice did something that jacked it up real bad
[12:32] <sivel_> ok, thanks again
[12:32] <Adam-85> modnar:  I think my problem with xorg file
[12:32] <baz_> scizzo-, what about configuring it so that the passwd u type for sudo is different than your own... is that possible? that way if the sudo passwd is compromized they still need your own account pwd
[12:32] <ortsvorsteher> !details | w00dr0w-help-MEE
[12:32] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, I'm now getting that it requires "pythin-xkit" and it can't find the packages
[12:32] <Adam-85> bcause when looking in it cannt see my drive info
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: i'd also run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:32] <ad_> i'm trying to make an ntfs usb drive writable. running ubuntu 8.10. have installed ntfs-config, ticked the 'make external drive writable' box, and unplugged/replugged the drive. still read-only. do i need a complete restart to make this work?
[12:32] <theczar> sivel_ my pleasure
[12:32] <w00dr0w-help-MEE> sorry gimmie a sec to type it all up
[12:32] <emmecenne> Hi guys I would share a folder between two ubuntu pc. I've them connected  via router. I've setted static ip. There are two shared folders in one pc, but I can't see them from mine. Can you help me?
[12:33] <baz_> ad_, technically no but thats actually worked for me
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: and remove all the nvidia stuff you have installed
[12:33] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, is there a way of purging all of it in one shot?
[12:33] <ad_> thanks baz - u mean a restart fixed it for you?
[12:33] <modnar> @adam-85 - sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:33] <modnar> And then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:33] <baz_> ad_, unfortunately yeah
[12:33] <modnar> Should rebuild your xorg
[12:34] <ad_> no probs - thanks :)
[12:34] <modnar> Then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:34] <theczar> emmecenne: i'm not sure i understand your issue exactly, you are are trying to view shared folders on one ubuntu pc from another ubuntu pc, using what protocol?
[12:34] <ortsvorsteher> how to figure out with xev which code the left Alt Key sends? i pasted the output and my .Xmodemap. http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/393842/
[12:34] <Adam-85> modnar:  I cann't access with root user
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: it depends what you have installed
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: try: dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia
[12:35] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, I'm pounding through the package manager
[12:36] <emmecenne> theczar I don't know, I just have clicked on the network icon but I can't see the shared folders from my pc. I think it uses samba
[12:36] <modnar> @adam-85 - fresh install? Or is it an existing install?
[12:36] <daredevilthere> dns53: Is octave same as Matlab?
[12:36] <w00dr0w-help-MEE> my neice jACKED with my linuxMCE hybrid machine while I was away. after a reboot all i get is a prompt telling me DCEROUTER logon: that comes and goes like an epileptic kids thoughts
[12:36] <emmecenne> Obviously I've shared the folders on the othe pc
[12:36] <Adam-85> fresh install
[12:36] <modnar> ah, ok
[12:36] <emmecenne> By right clicking on them and checking the voice share folders
[12:36] <modnar> sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> !linuxmce | w00dr0w-help-MEE
[12:36] <modnar> and then run the last commands
[12:37] <Adam-85> when done my insalling can not access to my interface
[12:37] <dns53> daredevilthere i've heard it is getting closer but i don't use any of those tools myself
[12:37] <whitefang> how would i use a differnet WM than compiz? and what would be a good substitue?
[12:38] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, I'm still getting that python error
[12:38] <Radtoo> whitefang: good substitute depends on you... and well, you can select wms in the login manager
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: have a websearch for the exact error, you may turn up some gold
[12:38] <theczar> emmecenne: I see, well I must admit that i am not very knowledgeable about samba, however if you have access to the other PC directly I could tell you how to access those files through FTP
[12:38] <onetinsoldier> Adam-85: what happens if you do the following command?  sudo Xorg -configure
[12:38] <Adam-85> modnar:  Does it request root access
[12:38] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, thanks, I'll be back if I get stuck
[12:39] <smokie> hey ActionParsnip, how do i go to a new line in bash script when using echo " " ?
[12:39] <modnar> @adam, no root access is needed
[12:39] <Adam-85> onetinsoldier:  I will try that
[12:39] <emmecenne> theczar can I use ftp protocol in lan?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> smokie: i think you can use \n in some way
[12:40] <theczar> emmecenne: yes you can
[12:40] <emmecenne> It's wonderful
[12:40] <onetinsoldier> Adam-85: ok. hopefully it will create a fresh and new xorg.conf.new file in your users home directory
[12:40] <emmecenne> teczar
[12:40] <emmecenne> ok
[12:40] <emmecenne> say me
[12:40] <emmecenne> should I use filezilla?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> smokie: http://www.ss64.com/bash/echo.html
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> emmecenne: if you like how filezilla works, use it
[12:41] <Radtoo> emmecenne: You should use whatever you like... - -
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> !ftp | emmecenne
[12:41] <Haegin> hi, where can I find the netboot image for ubuntu eee?
[12:41] <ortsvorsteher> how to figure out with xev which code the left Alt Key sends? i pasted the output and my .Xmodemap. http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/393842/ what i have to insert where in .Xmodemap
[12:41] <smokie> cool thanks ActionParsnip
[12:41] <theczar> emmecenne: you can use the file browser itself, or filezilla
[12:41] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: hell there
[12:41] <emmecenne> I can use nautilus too, wonderful
[12:41] <emmecenne> ok
[12:41] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: oops. *hello* there
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> morning onetinsoldier
[12:41] <Radtoo> emmecenne: And every web browser if you just want to download, even.
[12:42] <Adam-85> onetinsoldier:  I can access to my linux files now
[12:42] <theczar> emmecenne: yes however the computer that has the files you want must have an ftp server installed on it
[12:42] <emmecenne> radtoo nautilus
[12:42] <Adam-85> do u like to see xorg.cong file
[12:42] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier, I know you well enough to know what you meant.. :)
[12:42] <emmecenne> theczar, how I can install it
[12:42] <emmecenne> can i
[12:42] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: :-)
[12:42] <theczar> emmecenne: the quickest and easiest way is to install pureadmin from the package manager
[12:42] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, the scarry part is that it's listed on the Ubuntu site as in the repo, but my installer can't find it!  LOL
[12:42] <onetinsoldier> Adam-85: sure.
[12:43] <Adam-85> ok
[12:43] <Adam-85> where can i put this file
[12:43] <Mihasi> can anyone please help me to get dual head working? I'm using Ubuntu Studio 8.10 and my GPU is an ATI Mobility Radeon x700 (proprietary driver). Cloning works fine, but X won't start anymore when I set it to independent displays.
[12:43] <emmecenne> theczar done
[12:43] <onetinsoldier> Adam-85: i hope you know how to use pastebinit though if you're not in X-windows
[12:43] <Radtoo> Mihasi: did aticonfig not work?
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> jeeves   What file
[12:43] <ad_> @baz restart hasn't made the ntfs volume mount as writable - what next?
[12:43] <theczar> emmecenne: ok now you just need to find out the LAN ip for the computer with the files
[12:44] <Radtoo> Mihasi: Or did you configure it with a text editor?
[12:44] <theczar> emmecenne: run the ifconfig command in the terminal
[12:44] <emmecenne> it has static ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Adam-85, sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf       (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[12:44] <ozgur> Hello I install new ubuntu 8.10 my desktop computer
[12:44] <Mihasi> Radtoo: nope, tried with command line and amdccle, cloning works perfectly, independent displays not
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> theczar: or netbios name
[12:44] <emmecenne> done, I confirm
[12:44] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, do I have to reboot to get them to work?  or how can I find out if they loaded?
[12:44] <theczar> emmecenne: ok now go to the other computer and open nautilus
[12:44] <ozgur> But I cant find php, apache, mysql
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: if you reconfigured xserver-xorg just restart x and the driver won't be used
[12:44] <emmecenne> just a sec
[12:45] <Radtoo> Mihasi: well, Xorg failures are logged in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ... you might find out what caused it there.
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !php | ozgur
[12:45] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, sorry, what was the command to redo my xserver again?
[12:45] <Mihasi> Radtoo: I'll go take a look
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:45] <ozgur> Thanks I try LAMP
[12:45] <smokie> ActionParsnip, i think a wrote a premative install-egg bash script, just one last thing before i test it, it doesnt have to End with anything, right?
[12:46] <erry> Hello
[12:46] <theczar> emmecenne: actually it will be even easier if you click on Places/Connect to Server
[12:46] <erry> Is there a way to schedule an Ubuntu computer to turn itself on at a specific time..
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> smokie: nope, just stop typing :)
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !cron
[12:46] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, then ctl alt backspace?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> smokie: remember to chmod +x the script too so its executable
[12:46] <smokie> ActionParsnip, coool and it should m chmod to 555, right?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: yep
[12:46] <Radtoo> erry: Not easily if you actually turn it off instead of go into standby.
[12:46] <smokie> cool thanks
[12:46] <Radtoo> erry: (partial standby, even)
[12:46] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, ok, thanks.  one sec
[12:46] <Adam-85> i can't get it now , sorry  i will restart my computer go to try the command u given me
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> smokie: remember to have #!/bin/bash as the first line too
[12:47] <erry> Radtoo, i can't standby
[12:47] <erry> it breaks
[12:47] <erry> gets stuck
[12:47] <smokie> yeah added that right in the beginnin
[12:47] <Adam-85> but i cann't access with my root user
[12:47] <Adam-85> ok
[12:47] <ad_> how do i mount an external ntfs usb drive as writable having enabled writable in ntfs-config. auto-mount still mounts as read-only
[12:47] <Radtoo> erry: if you have an external device with a timer you could probably use "wake-on" whatever (lan, keyboard, ...), given a capable bios.
[12:47] <erry> uh
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs3g | ad_
[12:47] <emmecenne_> techzar
[12:47] <w00dr0w> ok, So I was editing xorg.conf to add MXt500 extra buttons when I had to run to the store. While at the store my 2yo neice starts bashing the KB then reboots the system. Now all i get @ powerup is a prompt saying dcerouter logon that flashes on and off quite quickly so I can't logon
[12:47] <erry> how :(
[12:47] <Radtoo> erry: The computer actually would be turned off and turn itself on when he gets such a signal.
[12:48] <emmecenne_> techzar done
[12:48] <erry> Radtoo, how do i do that
[12:48] <Radtoo> erry: Well, you need a device that sends a signal. >D
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> ad_: you need some more mount options
[12:48] <w00dr0w> MX500*
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> ad_, It will auto munt as read only if it was locked by windows or unceanly  unmounted from linux
[12:48] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, ok, I reloaded X, and now I've got a horid rez
[12:48] <erry> Radtoo, i have a wireless keyboard but uh im not sure if it sends a signal while the laptop is turned off
[12:48] <theczar> emmecenne: ok so if you've clicked on Places/Connect to Server, under Service type select FTP with login
[12:48] <ad_> @ubottu ntfs-3g in already installed (i think this is the default in 8.10)
[12:48] <erry> Radtoo, the reason why i want to do that is cuz i have my laptop connected to a USB keyboard, LCD monitor etc and it's under my desk so turniting on is hard
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> ad_, It will auto mount drives as read only if it was locked by windows or unceanly  unmounted from linux
[12:49] <Radtoo> erry: I'm also not sure what your mainboard would support for wake-on - something.
[12:49] <nightrid3r> ad_: ubottu is a bot he cant help you
[12:49] <ad_> ahhh haha
[12:49] <erry> Radtoo, i think it has "wake up on lan" or something
[12:49] <ad_> how do I 'clean' the disk if this is the case?
[12:49] <w00dr0w> if anyone can help me please open a private chat. it's hard to keep up with all thois text wizzing by
[12:49] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, ideas on how to fix this mess?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: well yeah you are using vesa drivers, you can now install nvidia drivers
[12:50] <jeeves_Moss> I thought I did that allready!
[12:50] <onetinsoldier> ad_: you mean do a filesystem check? like chkdsk?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: you could try nvidia-glx-177
[12:50] <Radtoo> erry: Thats the most common one, yep. It wakes up when you send the right network packet from some one computer.
[12:50] <emmecenne_> techzar done
[12:50] <theczar> emmecenne_: so after you select FTP (with login) under Service Type, place the IP in the Server field, and 21 under the Port field.  then your username under username
[12:50] <erry> Radtoo, uh....... So how do I do that..
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> w00dr0w, It is best to keep your questions in the channel and use the persons name to highlight your responses to each other
[12:50] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, ok, one sec
[12:50] <ad_> yep - so it mounts as writable and is marked as 'clean'
[12:50] <erry> Radtoo, btw i mean its actually turned off not sleeping
[12:51] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, is there a place to edit the max rez?
[12:51] <Mihasi> Radtoo: could you please take a look at my Xorg.0.log output? I'm not sure what to look for. http://pastebin.com/d3dd27567
[12:51] <emmecenne_> theczar where should I select ftp? In NAutilus? Where?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: you will need nvidia-settings when you get the driver installed
[12:51] <Radtoo> erry: Yes. When its actually turned off but powered (as in no power kill switch obviously) you can  about only use the "wake-on" method
[12:51] <jeeves_Moss> action
[12:51] <onetinsoldier> ad_: i don't think you can. you have to boot up windows itself in order for the ntfs filesystem to really be fixed by chkdsk
[12:51] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, is that the name of the package?
[12:51] <erry> Radtoo, ok and how do i turn it on from LAN exactly?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> ad_:  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-read-and-writable.html
[12:52] <Radtoo> erry: Hmm... can you install / do you have a "wakeonlan" utility?
[12:52] <erry> Radtoo, by the way how do u send a packet to a comp that's turned off >_>
[12:52] <w00dr0w> Can I get a terminal if I enter recovery mode?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: yes: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[12:52] <erry> Radtoo, it's not connected anywhere when it's turned off..
[12:52] <theczar> emmecenne_: you want to use Nautilus' Connect to Server function wich can be found on the top panel under Places
[12:52] <Radtoo> erry: broadcast / mac address
[12:52] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, there is no install for glx-177
[12:52] <erry> Radtoo, my lan is WLAN
[12:52] <onetinsoldier> ad_: in other words, there is no linux util that fixes a dirty ntfs filesystem, that i know of
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> w00dr0w: yes, choose root console from the 2nd option after choosing recovery mode for the kernel
[12:52] <erry> Radtoo, it's not on LAN when its turned off..
[12:52] <Kunalagon> hi, is there any way to access NFS shares using Nautilus ?
[12:52] <Radtoo> erry: oh, that's not gonna work unless you have it fro wlan
[12:53] <erry> Radtoo, no it says lan
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: are you on intrepid / hardy?
[12:53] <w00dr0w> i need to edit my xorg.conf
[12:53] <Radtoo> erry: wake on lan means for cabled... lan.
[12:53] <ad_> is there a way in ubuntu i can check if the partition hasn't cleanly been unmounted in the past? or is my only option to chkdsk it in windows and safely remove?
[12:53] <jeeves_Moss> intrepid
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> w00dr0w: yes thats fine
[12:53] <w00dr0w> kk
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> w00dr0w,           sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf       (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[12:53] <w00dr0w> ty
[12:53] <erry> Radtoo, isn't there any other ay
[12:53] <erry> way(
[12:53] <erry> Radtoo, once my dad had scheduled my old win 2k pc to turn on at a specific time by itseld
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: ok cool, apt-cache search nvidia | grep -i 177
[12:53] <w00dr0w> Can't apt-get anything. Im in MCE and it's very picky about what you can and can't do
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: install what it finds
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: :D
[12:54] <w00dr0w> still using ff <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:54] <Radtoo> erry: Uh well you can get a timer that powers on / off ?
[12:54] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, nada!
[12:54] <dns53> ad_ it will show a warning (and it may even not let you mount) if the file system has not been unmounted correctly
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> w00dr0w, mce = ?
[12:54] <erry> Radtoo, ow
[12:54] <w00dr0w> yes a terminAL!!!
[12:54] <erry> how*
[12:54] <Radtoo> erry: Like one of these hardware power on / off clock thingies that work with lamps and everything
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: apt-cache search nvidia
[12:54] <w00dr0w> BRB GONNA TRY EDITING IT
[12:54] <erry> Radtoo, i doubt it works with laptops
[12:54] <w00dr0w> sorry for caps, lappy keyboard + fat fingers = the devil
[12:55] <Radtoo> erry: Other than that. No. You can't actually fully power off and just power on by timer unless your bios would support that - and it like never does.
[12:55] <ad_> no warning on mount, just appears in nautilus, browses fine, files open, but just won't write to
[12:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !mint
[12:55] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, the only "17" series one is the 173
[12:55] <erry> Radtoo, but how had my dad done it
[12:55] <Jack_Sparrow> w00dr0w, Please see above
[12:55] <Radtoo> erry: It was probably a sort of standby.
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: then 173 is the one for you
[12:55] <erry> Radtoo, no
[12:55] <erry> Radtoo, it was completely turned of
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: try running: sudo apt-get update then rerunning the search
[12:55] <erry> *off
[12:55] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, ok, now that we know that, how do I fix this screen rez?
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> erry, It could have had a wake on lan setting
[12:56] <Radtoo> erry: Then he had it supported on his mainboard, most likely.
[12:56] <Hellsheep> Hey
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Radtoo, agreed
[12:56] <w00dr0w> ok, i typed "sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf" but all i get is a blank screen with a bunch of menu options with carrots before letters
[12:56] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, some thing
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: install the package as well as nvidia-settings
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> w00dr0w, We dont support linuxmce in here
[12:56] <Hellsheep> I am wondering if i can get some up with an ubuntu server install i am trying.
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: then run gksudo nvidia-settings
[12:56] <kek> Hey, does anyone know how the ncftp password is encrypted in ~/.ncftp/bookmarks? I need to recover the password for use in another program.
[12:56] <rohdef> does the Logitech ClearChat Comfort USB headset work in Ubuntu?
[12:57] <kibibyte> do you know any good web based project mnagment tool?
[12:57] <Radtoo> kibibyte: jira but it's not free
[12:57] <w00dr0w> i know, i was just hoping someone might know the answer cause everyones idle in linuxmce
[12:57] <donkey_> i need some help. I am trying to burn onto a DVD to play on my DVD player movies i downloaded form the internet. I converted them to .iso and also tried .mpeg.   the only one that somewhat worked was the .mpeg. what am i doing wrong??????????
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_Moss: if you are told to run nvidia-xorg (or whatever it is): then run: sudo <command> and restart your x server again
[12:57] <Hellsheep> I am trying to install ubuntu server i386, but every time i get to the "Configuring APT" section it hangs while scanning the mirrors.
[12:57] <Radtoo> kibibyte: best free one I know is xplanner but I really dont like it.
[12:57] <theczar> kibibyte: projectpath
[12:57] <dns53> rohdef no idea about that model but the usb sound cards tend to work
[12:57] <alexy92> hey guys, i have some spare room on an external hdd and i was wondering would u guys be able to help me install ubuntu on it?
[12:57] <jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, I ran it, and it's claiming nvidia isn't installed, however, when I try to reinstall the nvidia package, apt-get says it's installed
[12:57] <hanjichao> 又说汉语的吗？
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> donkey_: use devede with the video files and it will make you a dvd iso which you can burn as you normally do
[12:58] <theczar> alexy92
[12:58] <rohdef> dns53, ok, found something, but I'm not sure where to search to be sure :S
[12:58] <theczar> alexy92 of course!
[12:58] <raptou51> raptou51
[12:59] <donkey_> actionparsnip i have tried that and the .iso doesnt work on the dvd player
[12:59] <alexy92> ??
[12:59] <onetinsoldier> Hellsheep: i don't kow that i can help, at all. but are you trying to do this through a router?
[12:59] <Hellsheep> Someone suggested when the install hangs on Configuring APT, unplugging the network cable will cause it to fail and just continue with the install, that didn
[12:59] <donkey_> actionparsnip the files that were downloaded are .avi
[12:59] <kibibyte> thx
[12:59] <Hellsheep> didn't work for me, they also suggested killing the process, but i don't know what process to kill or how to find it.
[12:59] <Hellsheep> Or if it's even the right thing to do.
[12:59] <theczar> alexy92: what do you need to know?  we can help answer questions or give you a step by step
[12:59] <Hellsheep> Yes, i have a router.
[12:59] <Hellsheep> Could that be the problem?
[13:00] <onetinsoldier> Hellsheep: roger that. could be
[13:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Hellsheep, To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> donkey_: fine: throw them at devede and make a nice menu for them, it will make a dvd iso
[13:00] <alexy92> a step by step would help please theczar
[13:00] <hanjichao> 没人说汉语？
[13:00] <w00dr0w> is there another text editor besides nano for the cmd prompt?
[13:00] <alexy92> i used to have ubuntu installed via wubi
[13:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !cn > hanjichao
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> donkey_: burn the dvd as SLOW as your burner pysically can  as well
[13:00] <alexy92> but that crashed and wouldnt boot up any more
[13:00] <emmecenne> theczar in folder which path I should specify? Something like /home/username/music?
[13:01] <theczar> alexy92: so first off you'll need a live CD of ubuntu
[13:01] <Hellsheep> Okay, i will try Jack_Sparrow. Thanks. brb
[13:01] <alexy92> which i got really annoyed at
[13:01] <alexy92> done
[13:01] <jrib> w00dr0w: vim and emacs are the popular ones.  The learning curve is steep but worth it
[13:01] <alexy92> i have partitioned a blank sector for it to install on
[13:01] <donkey_> actionparsnip when i burn them it says in the dvd player that it cannot play though
[13:01] <Mihasi> can anyone please help me to get dual head working? I'm using Ubuntu Studio 8.10 and my GPU is an ATI Mobility Radeon x700 (proprietary driver). Cloning works fine, but X won't start anymore when I set it to independent displays. Xorg output at http://pastebin.com/d3dd27567
[13:01] <Jack_Sparrow> alexy92, Please read the wubi faq and understand what it is and how id differs from a regular install
[13:01] <emmecenne> the czar?
[13:01] <Dr_willis> the 'vimtutor' is a must try :)
[13:01] <baz_> when figuring out a command you can do --help... is that the same as when people say "look at the man"?
[13:01] <emmecenne> theczar?
[13:01] <jrib> baz_: no
[13:02] <Dr_willis>  --help is not the same as the man pages. :)
[13:02] <theczar> emmecenne: yes that should do it, just any path with do
[13:02] <alexy92> but the thing im worried about is that i have mac retail installed on there, so if i install ubuntu, i still want to be able to use both operating systems
[13:02] <Radtoo> Mihasi: The xorg output when it's not working is the more useful one
[13:02] <baz_> oh, how do u get to them man pages
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> donkey_: i'd check some devede guides as well as your cd burning app to make sure you are using correct options
[13:02] <alexy92> so i also need to configure grub
[13:02] <emmecenne> theczar it doesn't work
[13:02] <smileybri> First time using chat. I tried to perform an update suggested by the Update Manager last night. The update is to VirtualBox-2.1. I left it all night stalled at "Unpacking replacement virtualbox-2.1 ..." Has anyone else encountered this? Do you know what I should do to get the application working again if it is failed?
[13:02] <jrib> baz_: man COMMAND   usually
[13:02] <jrib> baz_: try: man intro
[13:02] <shishio> hi anyone knows where to find teh server of mysql?
[13:02] <donkey_> what app should i use to burn???????
[13:02] <Rencx> hello
[13:02] <dns53> baz_ type man appname (or perhaps file or api) --help --usage are also commonly used, there are also some info pages, info appname
[13:03] <Radtoo> donkey_: try k3b
[13:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !lamp > shishio
[13:03] <theczar> alexy92: oh I see, so it's a mac, well that complicates things, mostly due to the mac firmware
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> smileybri: uninstall it then run sudo apt-get clean then reinstall the app
[13:03] <donkey_> radtoo how do i download that
[13:03] <jrib> shishio: you mean the channel dedicated to mysql?
[13:03] <whitefang> how would i change my default gnome WM from compiz to metacity?
[13:03] <theczar> emmecenne: that's odd...
[13:03] <shishio> @jrib yes
[13:03] <Radtoo> donkey_: wait.. burn on windows?
[13:03] <Rencx> How big need be partitions on Ubuntu?
[13:03] <jrib> shishio: /join #mysql
[13:03] <donkey_> im on ubuntu
[13:03] <Dr_willis> whitefang,  i install and run the tool 'fusion-icon' it makes it easy
[13:04] <Jack_Sparrow> alexy92, Mac Hardware Running Ubuntu... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[13:04] <shishio> thanks jrib
[13:04] <smileybri> ActionParsnip, Thank you! I will try that.
[13:04] <theczar> emmecenne: try leaving the folder field blank
[13:04] <jrib> whitefang: or use System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects and select None
[13:04] <emmecenne> theczar, ok
[13:04] <Jack_Sparrow> donkey_, right click iso and write to disk
[13:04] <baz_> hehe, the man is much better
[13:04] <Rencx> Jack_Sparrow, hello
[13:04] <Radtoo> donkey_: use the package manager if you don't already have it anyhow...
[13:04] <theczar> alexy92: I would love to help you but I'm not very familiar with the intricacies of the Macintosh boot system
[13:04] <alexy92> no no no no
[13:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Rencx, Morning.. here anyhow
[13:04] <emmecenne> theczar what should I use for login?
[13:05] <donkey_> what speed should the dvd be written at?
[13:05] <alexy92> its a windows based computer, running a mac leopard off an external hdd
[13:05] <Jack_Sparrow> donkey_, slowest possible
[13:05] <baz_> man'ing didn't work in my ssh connection - is it normal for it to be disabled on server setups?
[13:05] <Adam-85> modnar:  I back
[13:05] <Hellsheep> Jack_Sparrow, i have removed quiet from the command line, splash was not in there. I am trying it now. Also, how large are the updates it tries to do, i am currently shaped and i am wondering if that could just be the problem, and i'd just need to wait like 10 hours for it to download?
[13:05] <theczar> emmecenne: your username on the computer
[13:05] <alexy92> so if i install ubuntu, is it possible to use grub to be able to load the mac bootloader?
[13:05] <donkey_> so .5 would be the best?
[13:05] <Adam-85> and try to fix my problem but didn't work
[13:05] <theczar> emmecenne: the destination computer that is
[13:05] <multik> hi, I've installed new Ubuntu Server 8.04 and didn't specify proxy parameters. Where can I change them now after install?
[13:05] <Mihasi> Radtoo: hmm, I thought it just appended error messages to the end of that file. I'll break it again and output the new Xorg output then.
[13:05] <onetinsoldier> whitefang: want antother way? the 'real' way? hehe...   sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager
[13:05] <dns53> Rencx 2-4gb swap (depending on your ram and how big your drive is, 4-10gb / (root partition), you could optonally have a /boot (100mb should be enough) and a /home being about 10gb but feel free to do what you like
[13:05] <jrib> baz_: what distribution is the server running?
[13:05] <whitefang> onetinsoldier: thanks
[13:05] <Rencx> Does anyone now how i need set partitions in Ubuntu ?
[13:06] <baz_> jrib,  ubuntu server 8.10
[13:06] <Adam-85> however i bring a xorg.config and xorg.confg.failsafe files
[13:06] <onetinsoldier> whitefang: you're welcome
[13:06] <jrib> baz_: then you have man pages
[13:06] <emmecenne> theczar so I have to create another account on the computer I've shared the folders? Or I have to use the existing one?
[13:06] <Radtoo> Mihasi: No. It does a new log for every start. You might have .old logs in the same folders (I'm not sure tho)... otherwise you'll have to copy it from the command prompt outside xorg.
[13:06] <Adam-85> where can upload it to see
[13:06] <baz_> jrib, "command not found" how can i doublecheck my distro
[13:06] <multik> uname -a
[13:06] <theczar> alexy92: I got it to work once on a quadrupal booted hackintosh once, so as i recall grub recongnized OSX
[13:06] <alexy92> theczar: thank you for your help already, i immensly appreciate it
[13:06] <frca> hi all! guess what - i just installed ubuntu! ;)
[13:07] <multik> haha
[13:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Hellsheep, quiet and splash are always there.. but let me know.  the updates will take awhile after you do the original install but you can hold them off for awhile while you check things out
[13:07] <alexy92> frca: good job!:)
[13:07] <theczar> emmecenne: existing
[13:07] <baz_> frca, congrats, u are one step closer to enlightenment
[13:07] <onetinsoldier> frca: sweet :-) you will now be assimilated. resistance is futile
[13:07] <Hellsheep> Jack_Sparrow, splash was definitely not there. Only quiet was, but okay.
[13:07] <jrib> baz_: apt-cache policy manpages
[13:07] <alexy92> awesome
[13:07] <alexy92> thats given me hope :)
[13:07] <Adam-85> onetinsoldier:  I'm back again
[13:07] <multik> can anyone please tell me where can I reconfigure proxy parameters under Ubuntu Server 8.04?
[13:08] <Adam-85> about my problem with fresh install
[13:08] <Rencx> dns53, i have 4GB ram i choose 3072mb swap and i have left 317GB how i can brake them?
[13:08] <baz_> jrib, installed: none
[13:08] <onetinsoldier> Adam-85: hello there, welcome back
[13:08] <jrib> baz_: install them
[13:08] <Mihasi> Radtoo: this is the broken one: http://pastebin.com/d478f994a
[13:08] <Adam-85> thanks
[13:08] <Adam-85> well
[13:08] <alexy92> just all i need to know is how to install it onto a particular partition on the external hdd and how to configure grub to load macosx and i will be all good
[13:08] <baz_> jrib, sudo apt-get install man?
[13:08] <alpiv> I've googled search, yet only found a couple blogs on the topic, cvsd install and config.. Anyone know of a good set of docs on the subject?
[13:08] <theczar> alexy92: my pleasure, I wish I could be of more help, but whenever hackintoshs come into the mix, things get touchy and I don't want to tell you to do something that will screw over your system
[13:08] <Adam-85> I get two files from there xorg.confg and xorg.config.failsafe
[13:08] <Jack_Sparrow> alexy92, Mac Hardware Running Ubuntu... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[13:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !ppc
[13:09] <jeeves_Moss> Jack_Sparrow, hey man, long time no chat!
[13:09] <Rencx> dns53 also i have hawe swap at the end of hard drive where i need put swap?
[13:09] <theczar> Jack_Sparrow: it's not a mac though
[13:09] <Jack_Sparrow> jeeves_Moss,  Morning
[13:09] <jrib> alexy92: personally, I use rEFIt
[13:09] <jeeves_Moss> Jack_Sparrow, how's it going over there?
[13:09] <baz_> jrib, i think my server came ultra locked down - it denies me perm even when i sudo apt-get install
[13:09] <dns53> Rencx well i would have a / of say 15g and the rest /home, i would also recomend useing lvm
[13:09] <jrib> baz_: you didn't install ubuntu yourself?
[13:09] <Jack_Sparrow> jeeves_Moss, good .. but please stay ontopic.. pm if you need me
[13:10] <Rencx> dns53, lvm?
[13:10] <w00dr0w> sorry to bother you all again but...  is there another text editor in cmd prompt thats not nano?
[13:10] <Adam-85> how to upload these files to tell m what is problem and how to fix
[13:10] <jrib> w00dr0w: I gave you two before
[13:10] <baz_> jrib, i built it at elasticserver.com with bundles of stuff
[13:10] <onetinsoldier> Adam-85: make sure you keep prefixing you messages with the nick of whomever you are speaking to. you shuold be able to use tab-completion to complete irc nicks
[13:10] <isilion_> hi. im using kubuntu 8.10 and my scraansaver only shows in a quarter of the screen.
[13:10] <w00dr0w> i just checked my log couldnt find any replies
[13:10] <Radtoo> Mihasi: might be that the amdxdmm is just compiled against the wrong version of x.org, according to that log
[13:10] <w00dr0w> could you PM them to me
[13:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !editors
[13:10] <dns53> Rencx it is a system that allows you to resize partitions and then grow file systems, you could just start with small partitions and grow them as needed
[13:10] <w00dr0w> its so hard keeping up with all this text wizzin\g b
[13:10] <Adam-85> ok
[13:10] <theczar> alexy92: it is quite likely that grub will recognize OSX when it installs and list it as a boot option, but I can't guarantee that, especially since there are may ways hackintosh's are configured
[13:10] <dns53> !lvm
[13:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !editors > w00dr0w
[13:11] <Dr_willis> w00dr0w,  thats why they have scrollbars at the side :)
[13:11] <baz_> !code
[13:11] <Adam-85> onetinsoldier:  how to upload these files to tell m what is problem and how to fix ?
[13:11] <onetinsoldier> Adam-85: how did you get these two files? are they both from the 'sudo Xorg -configure' command?
[13:11] <alexy92> oh right
[13:11] <alexy92> hmm
[13:11] <jeeves_Moss> Jack_Sparrow, how do I force this box to upgrade to 9.0?
[13:11] <alexy92> well is there a way to delete ubuntu if all doesnt go to plan?
[13:11] <w00dr0w> THX jack_sparrow
[13:11] <Adam-85> i get it from shell
[13:11] <Rencx> dns53 so home folder will be for all my files? and root will be for instalation?
[13:11] <Jack_Sparrow> jeeves_Moss, 9.0 what
[13:11] <onetinsoldier> Adam-85: you can use the 'sudo' command.. correct?
[13:11] <Jack_Sparrow> w00dr0w, np
[13:11] <w00dr0w> ur a lifesaver!
[13:11] <jeeves_Moss> Jack_Sparrow, the newest kernel/release
[13:11] <alexy92> like can windows or mac read ext3?
[13:11] <Adam-85> onetinsoldier:  I munt my win drive and copy them
[13:11] <jrib> baz_: what output do you get from 'sudo apt-get install manpages'?
[13:11] <Adam-85> yeah
[13:12] <Radtoo> Mihasi: Thats's just me reading the log though. I'm not even sure what the module is for, or whether you can get a newer one. :)
[13:12] <theczar> alexy92: you can delete ubuntu with the liveCD
[13:12] <onetinsoldier> Adam-85: ok, you're in linux right now?
[13:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jeeves_Moss, It should be automatic with updates to ibex
[13:12] <Jockeo> I need help to get CrossLoop (remote desktop sharing) working on Ubuntu 7.10 (using Wine 1.0.0). It installs fine, but when I launch CrossLoop and click "Login", there is just a blank page. According to WineHQ it should work (but the tests used other versions of Wine and CrossLoop). Any suggestion?
[13:12] <Organizm> alexy92, i don't know about mac but there's a set of drivers you can get for windows to read ext2/3
[13:12] <alexy92> oh right
[13:12] <Adam-85> mount*
[13:12] <jeeves_Moss> Jack_Sparrow, it's not totally released tot he community yet.  this video issuse is makin' me mad
[13:12] <Organizm> alexy92, if you google ext3 in windows it should be one of the first links
[13:12] <theczar> alexy92: just using the partiton editor, the touchy thing is getting Grub off the MBR
[13:12] <baz_> jrib, "unable to lock download directory"
[13:12] <dns53> Rencx yes, you can also split up your /var (may be useful if you host large websites) and any other folder but you normally just have a / and a /home or just a single big /
[13:12] <baz_> jrib, and yes i sudo'ed
[13:13] <theczar> alexy92: you can use a tool called SuperGrub LiveCD to remove Grub
[13:13] <isilion_> my screensaver shows only in a quarter of the screen. im using kubuntu 8.10. plz hlp
[13:13] <baz_> jrib, right before thagt msg is "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[13:13] <Jack_Sparrow> jeeves_Moss, kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-9-generic               ?
[13:13] <w00dr0w> how do i use ubottu?
[13:13] <jrib> baz_: do you have another APT process running?
[13:13] <w00dr0w> to send a PM back
[13:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !bot > w00dr0w
[13:13] <frca> i have a question: i have some trouble with removing files. when i right click and choose remove, it asks me if i want really remove the file. that's ok. but when i press delete key, it removes the file immediately! it doesn't ask anything. pretty scary :) so where to set this to work the same way as the context menu>remove does? fyi i disabled using trash and i use ext3, and ubuntu 8.10
[13:13] <jeeves_Moss> Jack_Sparrow, I think so.  unless you've got time to help me take a stab @ this video issue?
[13:13] <onetinsoldier> Adam-85: do you know how to use a pastebin website? if you're in linux and you need to pastebin from the no x-windows console, then install and use a utility named 'pastebinit'
[13:13] <baz_> jrib, don't think so - is there a way to check
[13:14] <oCean_> I hooked up friends laptop with HDMI to his tv. Pressing fn+f8, nothing seems to happen, and tv gives "no signal" Where do I start debugging this?
[13:14] <Rencx> dns53 and on home will be all my music and movies and pictures so if i want reinstall Ubuntu they will be safe?
[13:14] <dns53> Rencx it is useful to have a seperate home partition, it makes moving to another distro easier
[13:14] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  When using evince to view my presentation, I often have to press space more than once (typically twice) to move forward by one slide.  How do I make it so that evince moves me forward by exactly one slide per press of space?
[13:14] <Hellsheep> Jack_Sparrow, how long should "Configuring APT" "Scanning the mirror" normally take?
[13:14] <w00dr0w> basically whats it mean when xorg.conf is empty in nano and in vi?
[13:14] <Jack_Sparrow> jeeves_Moss, what video issue do you have.. Since I am not quite awake yet.. be gentle
[13:14] <dns53> Rencx yes, that's one advantage
[13:14] <jrib> baz_: ps -ef | grep apt   will show you some
[13:14] <Mihasi> Radtoo: okay, thanks. But if that's the case, why would cloning work? Couldn't it have something to do with permissions? When I run amdcccle as normal user I can't select independent displays, only cloning. When I run it as root I can select it, but it breaks x.
[13:14] <hwilde> oCean_, only way I got to export the display was reboot into win, hit fn+f8 (dont even have to login to win), that seemed to activate the hardware, the nreboot into linux and it exports
[13:14] <Radtoo> Mihasi: some bug report suggests you could try moving the file / removing it.
[13:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Hellsheep, It can take awhile but pulling the pulg before the install will cause it to fail. not hurt anything
[13:15] <alexy92> oh right cool but if i delete grub, how would i be able to boot into linux?
[13:15] <jeeves_Moss> Jack_Sparrow, no worries.  I have an nVidia card, and when I install the "non-free drivers", I get the screen lock ups, grey screens, etc. I've followed the "howtos" on how to fix it, and it causes the system to hard crash into a reboot
[13:15] <jrib> w00dr0w: it means it's empty, nothing special really