[00:35] <Crysis> hola
[00:35] <Crysis> queria saber si hay un OP aqui de #ubuntu-es
[00:35] <Crysis> ???
[00:36] <LjL> Crysis, hay jpatrick, erusul y effie_jayx en #ubuntu-irc, sino creo que se dorman
[00:36] <LjL> FYI: Michoacano came in #ubuntu claiming that someone from #ubuntu-es gave him the "sudo rm -rf /"
[00:37] <LjL> then, he joined #ubuntu-es claiming that someone from #ubuntu did that
[00:37] <LjL> then, he spammed ##linux claiming that someone from #ubuntu did that
[00:37] <LjL> seveas: ping
[00:37] <Seveas> pong
[00:38] <tomaw> see above
[00:38] <LjL> Seveas: you are on the -es access list, do you think you could do something about michoacano?
[00:38] <LjL> eh
[00:38] <Seveas> hmm
[00:38] <tomaw> Seveas: it may be useful to add staff to the access list also
[00:38]  * LjL is not sure what he's supposed to do this time
[00:39] <Seveas> I didn't know I had access there :)
[00:39] <LjL> tomaw: as our recommendations say.
[00:39] <LjL> the channel owner is a bit lazy apparently
[00:39] <Seveas> /msg chanserv op #ubuntu-es ljl
[00:39] <Seveas> that worked?
[00:39] <LjL> no
[00:39] <Seveas> darn
[00:40] <LjL> you're 29 seveas
[00:40] <LjL> not age
[00:40] <LjL> anyway, that channel really needs something to be done about
[00:40] <tomaw> channel security is on
[00:40] <tomaw> you can't op people not on the access list
[00:41] <Seveas> since I have 29, I can fix that :)
[00:41] <tomaw> true
[00:42] <LjL> Seveas, i'm not sure how pelicano would take it if you mess with channel settings though...
[00:42] <Seveas> if he notices :)
[00:43] <ardchoille> hehe, sneaky
[00:45] <LjL> anyway, i'm not sure whether jpatrick is in disagreement with other -es ops, or is just afraid of banning
[00:45] <LjL> i think i'll ask for access at the next chance
[00:46] <LjL> #ubuntu can be quieter than -es, really... it's not good
[00:47] <tomaw> hehe
[00:52] <LjL> Crysis, tiempo de irse... ;)
[00:53] <Crysis> irse??
[00:53] <Crysis> donde??
[00:53] <LjL> Crysis: fuera de este canal ;)
[00:54] <Crysis> y porque??
[00:54] <LjL> recuerdas?
[00:54] <Crysis> pero quiero hablar con los OPS de ubuntu-es
[00:54] <Crysis> yo estoy ayudando
[00:54] <LjL> Crysis, ellos son en #ubuntu-irc. cuando no se dormen
[00:54] <Crysis> y me sacan
[00:56] <LjL> [17:59] <LjL> !idle | Crysis
[00:56] <LjL> [17:59] <ubotu> Crysis: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.
[00:56] <LjL> [17:59] <jpatrick> Crysis: /topic
[00:56] <LjL> [17:59] <LjL> Crysis: eso dice que preferimos que aqui sean solamente personas que necesitan ayuda con los canales.
[00:56] <Crysis> pues por eso LjL
[00:56] <Crysis> si llega alguien mas ahi
[00:56] <Crysis> yo les aviso
[00:57] <Crysis> :P
[00:57] <Crysis> despues hablan mal de mi
[00:57] <Crysis> y me quieren sacar
[00:57] <Crysis> por eso quiero ayudarles
[00:57] <LjL> Crysis, LOS OPERADORES DE #UBUNTU-ES NO ESTAN AQUI
[00:57] <LjL> estan en #ubuntu-es o a vecez en #ubuntu-irc
[00:57] <ardchoille> LjL: Crysis knows this channel isn't for idlers, he/she has been told in the past, clearly isn't going to comply
[00:57] <LjL> este canal es para los operadores de #ubuntu
[00:58] <Crysis> eres OP de #ubuntu LjL???
[00:58] <LjL> ardchoille, we need patience with this one. at least until i get access in -es.
[00:58] <LjL> Crysis, eso no importa...
[00:58] <Crysis> mmm...
[00:59] <Crysis> me hubieras dicho desde el principio que el estaba mintiendo
[00:59] <Crysis> si realmente es un hacker
[00:59] <Crysis> me buscara
[00:59] <LjL> Crysis, ultimo aviso. por favor. si quieres hablar con los ops de #ubuntu-es, hablales en #ubuntu-es o #ubuntu-irc
[00:59] <Crysis> ¬_¬
[00:59] <Crysis> esta bien pues
[00:59] <ardchoille> LjL: As you wish :)
[00:59] <Crysis> pero despues no digan que no ayudo
[01:00] <Crysis> salu
[01:00] <Crysis> bye
[01:00] <LjL> saludos
[01:00] <Crysis> cuidense gente
[01:00] <LjL> there's a frigging reason i made #ubuntu-irc
[01:03] <PriceChild> Hey soldats, how can I help?
[01:03] <LjL> by sounding like a broken record
[01:05] <soldats> i would like you guys to keep an eye on "penol" he was in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic he dropped the "F" bomb 3 times and i told him to stop "or else" and he continued to do it. says hes from norway so he may not know CoC.
[01:05] <Seveas> thanks
[01:05] <LjL> will watch
[01:05] <soldats> k :)
[01:44] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[01:44] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[01:44] <Mez> * Received a malformed DCC request from lololz.
[01:45] <Dave2> I noticed :P
[01:45]  * Dave2 K-lines
[01:46] <PriceChild> LjL, I guess that didn't go well? :/
[01:46] <Mez> ty Dave2
[01:46] <LjL> i guess so
[01:47] <Mez> why? it did what it should have done other than deop
[01:47] <PriceChild> Mez, it removed nearly all those bans
[01:47] <Mez> ah, ok - didn't notice that
[01:48] <Mez> LjL, I presume it does some checking or somethign /
[01:48] <LjL> Mez, no, it should remove them after two weeks
[01:48] <Mez> ah.
[01:48] <Mez> Time Travelling Bots
[01:48] <LjL> but apparently it believed the timespace continuum suddenly moved two weeks ahead
[01:48] <LjL> yeah
[01:51] <nixternal> man, you all havin' some fun in #ubuntu tonight or what?
[01:53] <LjL> isset() will return FALSE if testing a variable that has been set to NULL.
[01:53] <LjL> but of course. crap.
[01:53] <nixternal> hehe
[01:54] <Mez> LjL, depends on the language
[01:54] <LjL> it's a frigging contradiction in terms
[01:54] <LjL> if i ask if it "is SET", and i have SET it to null, it means it's SET
[01:55] <Mez> LjL, however, some define "null" as a non-set thing. Dependant on language.
[01:55] <Mez> Javascript for example has no unset method
[01:55] <Mez> so you have to set it to null
[01:56] <Mez> Visual Basic also..
[01:56] <Mez> PHP however, doesnt, but if you do $x = 0; then empty($x) is true
[01:57] <LjL> Mez, this is php.
[02:01] <Seeker`> @btlogin
[02:02] <Seeker`> Hmm, site isn't responding
[02:05] <PriceChild> patience
[02:07] <Psynaut> Can someone please test me
[02:07] <LjL> Psynaut: did the automatic test not work?
[02:08] <Psynaut> LjL sec gonna relog
[02:08] <PriceChild> for crying out loud
[02:08] <PriceChild> he didn't say a thing
[02:08] <LjL> PriceChild: i know.
[02:08] <Psynaut> yeah still not working
[02:09] <PriceChild> LjL, you're not +o, you can't see?
[02:09] <LjL> Psynaut, i suggest that you actually read the instructions that are given to you.
[02:09] <LjL> PriceChild: i'm pretty sure i would have seen the bot replying to him.
[02:09] <PriceChild> LjL, typo?
[02:09] <LjL> PriceChild: can't exclude that. still...
[02:09] <Psynaut> I did I changed my ports to 8001 on ubuntuservers nad freenode
[02:09] <PriceChild> LjL, I saw a few people including your funky unicode
[02:09] <PriceChild> Psynaut, read the rest
[02:09] <LjL> Psynaut: and did you type what the topic, which you read, told you to type?
[02:09] <Psynaut> I just upgraded my router's firmware the other day
[02:10] <LjL> you know, it's a channel called #ubuntu-read-topic
[02:10] <LjL> perhaps you're supposed to read the topic
[02:10] <Psynaut> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[02:10] <Psynaut> I went here
[02:10] <Psynaut> as the topic said
[02:10] <LjL> Your router is affected by a bug. Please follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit to fix it, and then type « test me ». If the automatic test fails, join #ubuntu-ops and ask to be tested by operators
[02:10] <LjL> which part of "and then type « test me »" escaped you? :)
[02:11]  * PriceChild edits the wiki page
[02:11] <Psynaut> been a long day
[02:11] <Psynaut> tyring to get my damned microphone working for 12 hours
[02:11] <LjL> Psynaut: please, join #ubuntu-read-topic and type that
[02:11] <LjL> Psynaut: failed.
[02:12] <Psynaut> argghhhh
[02:12] <LjL> make really sure you're connected to 8001
[02:12] <LjL> close and reopen your client
[02:15] <LjL> Psynaut: you should be able to join #ubuntu now
[02:15] <Psynaut> I am back init
[02:15] <LjL> good
[02:15] <LjL> thanks and enjoy
[02:16] <Psynaut> aye thanks
[02:25] <PriceChild> Grr powersurge knocked my router out.
[02:26] <Seeker`> PriceChild: that sucks
[02:26] <PriceChild> alarms going off outside
[02:28] <Seeker`> is that a result of the surge?
[02:28] <LjL> that's quite a power surge.
[02:29] <PriceChild> I guess house alarms decided someone was tampering with them.
[02:30] <Seeker`> yeah
[02:30] <Seeker`> PriceChild: you have exams at the moment?
[02:30] <PriceChild> Seeker`, no, finished last friday
[02:30] <PriceChild> If I did I wouldn't be up so late.
[02:32] <Seeker`> PriceChild: Fair enough. I've got one more on monday
[02:33] <PriceChild> Seeker`, what're you doing up so late?! :)
[02:33] <Seeker`> PriceChild: Because I have all weekend to learn stuff
[02:33] <PriceChild> the man who says that....
[02:33] <PriceChild> gets no sunday to play
[02:33] <Seeker`> what?
[02:33] <Seeker`> No, I'm having friday night off
[02:34] <Seeker`> as I had an exam earlier
[02:34] <Mez> LjL, you're using PHP?
[02:34] <LjL> [03:32:25] <vocx> I don't think there was a valid reason to kick him. He had an attitude but he was not a troll.     Anyway, can you tell me what the job of these FloodBots is? I had not seen them before.
[02:34] <LjL> this is about misslecommander. so perhaps i'll invite him here.
[02:34] <LjL> although i do think he's a troll and attempted to ban evade [a ban that was not there]
[02:34] <LjL> Mez: sigh... why's everybody so astonished. yes.
[02:34] <Mez> LjL, no - er... you're using the constant NULL ?
[02:34] <LjL> Mez: i was
[02:34] <misslecommander> i dont know what i did
[02:35] <misslecommander> i was trying to help someone and he was looking for trouble. how do i ignore people ?
[02:35] <Mez> LjL, either use \0 (null byte)
[02:35] <Mez> or use your check
[02:35] <LjL> misslecommander, why do you have another nickname joined?
[02:35] <Mez> to check is_null aswell
[02:36] <misslecommander> what you mean?
[02:36] <LjL> misslecommander, misslecommander_
[02:36] <misslecommander> i am using pidgin, it may have done that
[02:36] <LjL> Mez, i can use anything really
[02:36] <misslecommander> i was trying help help someone get a list back so i opened pidgin
[02:36] <LjL> Mez: i just thought NULL would be the most elegant thing do use. foolish.
[02:37] <misslecommander> it has some option to choose names like that
[02:37] <Mez> LjL, null is annoying
[02:37] <LjL> misslecommander, please don't lie to me. i kicked you, and shortly after you rejoined with the other nickname.
[02:37] <LjL> what can i think except that you were trying to evade a ban that you thought was placed on you?
[02:37] <misslecommander> i truly dont know, i am very new to not only ,inux but irc
[02:37] <misslecommander> pidgin,  i dont know hw to stop it from auto log
[02:37] <LjL> misslecommander: then if you're new to linux and irc, perhaps you should not attack people but try to understand how things work here.
[02:37] <misslecommander> thats why i went to xchat
[02:38] <Mez> but you can check for null with [02:38] <Mez> if (!isset($var) AND $var !== NULL)
[02:38] <misslecommander> not sure i am getting this, i am here to gather information, not start trouble
[02:38] <LjL> Mez: i don't need to. NULL was really just a placeholder, i can set the variable to something else
[02:38] <LjL> !lol | misslecommander
[02:38] <ubotu> misslecommander: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[02:38] <misslecommander> and i try to help anyone i can, which is why i am using pigdin, in which i dont like because of the auto log
[02:38] <LjL> misslecommander: this trigger says to not use "lol".
[02:39] <LjL> ok, you did it just once.
[02:39] <LjL> did it warrant attacking the person who gave it to you?
[02:39] <misslecommander> i wasnt aware
[02:39] <LjL> you wasn't aware?
[02:39] <LjL> weren't, even
[02:39] <misslecommander> of the lol
[02:39] <LjL> you're not aware of the things you say?
[02:39] <misslecommander> i wasnt aware lol wasnt allowed nor that i said it
[02:40] <misslecommander> i had changed clients part way through o i could scroll up
[02:40] <misslecommander> i was in the process of helping someone
[02:40] <LjL> well, you did say it. and it is "allowed"... just annoying. but you definitely shouldn't attack someone who's legitimately giving bot factoids to you
[02:40] <LjL> also, what made me kick you eventually was this
[02:40] <misslecommander> i agree
[02:41] <LjL> [03:26:23] <RyanPrior> misslecommander: Scroll up and read your comments. I don't mean to push the issue, and I'm not a channel mod and I'm not threating anything against you. Just reminding you that posts like "oh lol" don't add much to the room. Please don't take offense. :-)
[02:41] <LjL> the guy toned it down.
[02:41] <LjL> you could have said, ok
[02:41] <misslecommander> may i ask a question ?
[02:42] <LjL> but no you went on attacking: [03:29:14] <misslecommander> RyanPrior: you are just looking for trouble, and maybe you dont know, but pm's are diabled. so get a life
[02:42] <LjL> yes, sure
[02:42] <misslecommander> you do have rules, some of which i dont know. why is lol not allowed, yet :) is ? maybe dumb question but arent they the same ?
[02:42] <misslecommander> i agree i didnt have to say what i said, i dont deny
[02:43] <LjL> misslecommander, but i told you, "lol" is allowed. it's just that it's much better to actually state full questions and answers, than to use such interjections.
[02:43] <LjL> !etiquette > misslecommander    (misslecommander, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:43] <LjL> browse these
[02:43] <misslecommander> ok, dont go please.
[02:44] <LjL> misslecommander, i'm not going anywhere. please give the guidelines a good read, as well as the other bot triggers i've given you, and then tell me if you have any doubts left
[02:46] <RyanPrior> What's with the change to Ubotu? He now spams the channel with 2 lines when you use | somebody's name?
[02:46] <LjL> hm?
[02:47] <RyanPrior> !ubuntu | LjL
[02:47] <ubotu> LjL: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:47] <LjL> RyanPrior: no
[02:47] <RyanPrior> Hmm, doesn't do it now. It happened just a second ago though.
[02:47] <LjL> RyanPrior: [03:45:51] <Elevator_Hazard> !wine
[02:47] <LjL> it's because this guy had called it first
[02:47] <ardchoille> RyanPrior: It does it with the !flash trigger
[02:47] <LjL> RyanPrior: type !wine now
[02:47] <RyanPrior> Oh, so when two people call it, he says "see above"?
[02:47] <RyanPrior> !ubuntu
[02:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:47] <RyanPrior> !wine
[02:47] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[02:47] <LjL> !wine | RyanPrior
[02:47] <ubotu> RyanPrior: please see above
[02:47] <RyanPrior> Ah, got it.
[02:47] <RyanPrior> That's not so bad.
[02:48] <ardchoille> Very nice way of handling factoids, that
[02:48] <LjL> it was actually done to *decrease* the spam ;)
[02:48] <RyanPrior> Yeah. I thought it was changed to post the factoid, then tell the person after the | to see above.
[02:48] <LjL> no, fortunately that's not the case :)
[02:49] <misslecommander> LjL: as far as misslecommander, misslecommander_ thats pidgin, i dont like to use it, it auto-logs or something, so i switched to xchat, which i like. i meant nothing or was trying nothing.
[02:49] <LjL> misslecommander: ok
[02:49] <misslecommander> i go to @ubuntu for imformation as there is alot of good info in there.
[02:50] <misslecommander> if you grant me permission, i would like to be able to go back in there, please.
[02:51] <misslecommander> whats going to happen is. my xchat is set to auto join that channel, so when i use it, i know it will try to join that channel
[02:51] <misslecommander> i dont want to get in trouble for that
[02:52] <PriceChild> disk activity is through the roof and little memory left, going down for a fsck and will brb :)
[02:53] <LjL> misslecommander, if you understand the guidelines and do your best to behave according to them, i'll let you back in, yes.
[02:53] <misslecommander> thank you, i am sorry
[02:54] <LjL> misslecommander: nevermind. just understand that #ubuntu is a busy channel and we like neither quarrels between people nor noise of other kinds, since the questions already make up for a fair bit of traffic
[02:55] <misslecommander> is there a timeoout perdiod, from when i leave this client, to use another, it will reject my name ?
[02:55] <LjL> !ghost
[02:55] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[02:55] <LjL> if that's what you mean
[02:55] <misslecommander> so that will log me off this client ?
[02:56] <misslecommander> re reading it, i think i get it. thank you for allowing me back in.
[02:56] <LjL> misslecommander: uhm, no, because you're not identified
[02:56] <LjL> !register | misslecommander
[02:56] <ubotu> misslecommander: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[02:56] <LjL> misslecommander: this time, you'll just have to wait. if you register, you will be able to kill "ghost" connections
[02:57] <misslecommander> yes i see, now. i see the chanserv messages something like that
[03:08] <jdh6403> hello
[03:09] <jdh6403> apparently  i need tested
[03:09] <jdh6403> ops test me pls
[03:09] <jdh6403> hello?
[03:11] <jdh6403> hey PriceChild
[03:11] <jdh6403> i need tested according to this dcc exploit
[03:12] <jdh6403> i changed the ports for freenode and ubuntu to 8001
[03:12] <jdh6403> i did the auto test and it said i need to come here to have a op test me
[03:12] <elkbuntu> seems you pass
[03:12] <jdh6403> ty sir
[03:13] <jdh6403> i got it
[03:14] <PriceChild> Hmm seems like lappy is still alive, *reviews logs*
[03:18] <LjL> uh
[03:18] <LjL> but he wasn't banned from #u
[04:28] <brad23> does ubuntu 7.10 support dual core cpu's and use both cores to make it faster? or will it only use 1 of my 2 cores?
[04:30] <Pici> brad23: This isnt a support channel.  Please change your ident and you can rejoin #ubuntu.
[04:30] <Alyxander> hello?
[04:30] <PriceChild> Alyxander, Hi? How can I help?
[04:30] <Alyxander> I fixed the dcc bug by changing the port to 8001 and I still cannot join #ubuntu
[04:31] <Pici> brad23: preferably to something less... colorful.
[04:31] <PriceChild> Alyxander, go back to #ubuntu-read-topic and read the topic.
[04:31] <Alyxander> I did
[04:31] <PriceChild> Alyxander, ok...
[04:31] <PriceChild> Alyxander, go back to #ubuntu-read-topic, read the topic and do what it suggests.
[04:31] <Alyxander> I did
[04:32] <PriceChild> You didn't.
[04:32] <PriceChild> Now you have :)
[04:32] <Alyxander> its fixed now thanks
[04:37]  * Pici facepalms
[04:52] <Pici> Second person who cant seem to follow directions in -offtopic
[05:03] <ardchoille> How do I do a ban forward with auto_bleh?
[05:03] <ardchoille> Would it be:  /ab *!*@host!#channel ?
[05:06] <crdlb> you'd need to op manually and /mode +b
[05:06] <crdlb> iirc autobleh isn't smart enough to say "hey this isn't a valid nick, perhaps it's a banmask"
[05:08] <ardchoille> crdlb: Ok, no problem. Will perform those manually. Thankyou :)
[05:11] <nalioth> ardchoille: autobleh is pretty simple.  there is an updated version more akin to chanserv.py in the works, from what i hear
[05:11] <nalioth> ardchoille: irssi is made for scripting, anyway
[05:13] <ardchoille> nalioth: Ah, ok. Yeah, perhaps I need to learn some perl
[05:17] <nalioth> ardchoille: perl? i just make convoluted aliases  :P
[05:26] <dbmoodb> i am sorry i will not do it again
[05:26] <dbmoodb> - can i be unbanned now ?
[05:27] <ardchoille> I banned profoX_ from #k, will unban when the problem is fixed
[05:29] <ubotu> genii called the ops in #kubuntu (profoX_ flood in #kubuntu)
[05:29] <ardchoille> handled
[05:29] <nalioth> ardchoille: um, this is not the way to do it
[05:30] <ardchoille> nalioth: Teach me how and I will do it, was just setting a ban due to users complaining
[05:30] <nalioth> ardchoille: /mode #kubuntu +b profo*!?=wesley@*!##fix_your_connection   is the way to do it
[05:31] <nalioth> ardchoille: any time folks are having connection problems, ##fix_your_connection is the place to banforward them to
[05:32] <ardchoille> nalioth: Done. I didn't think "Excess Flood" was a connection type problem. Thanks for the advice :)
[05:33] <crdlb> it's usually a bouncer gone crazy
[05:33] <ardchoille> ok
[05:56] <santium> Any human ops around to test me?
[05:57] <elkbuntu> possibly
[05:57]  * nalioth thought there were only human ops
[05:57] <santium> Would you mind doing so if you can?
[05:58] <elkbuntu> im trying to find the details of your ban first
[05:58] <santium> I wasn't banned. I was told by a friend of mine to come here first due to a problem w/ my router.
[05:59] <tritium> nalioth: well, Chanserv is ops in many channels
[05:59] <santium> I have no clue what he's talking about. The automatic bot said to come here.
[05:59] <elkbuntu> automatic bot?
[05:59] <santium> In #ubuntu-read-topic .
[05:59] <nalioth> tritium: when have you ever seen chanserv speaK?
[05:59] <nalioth> elkbuntu: the floodbots have been upgraded
[06:00]  * tritium never claimed such a thing
[06:00] <nalioth> santium: i don't see a ban in #ubuntu
[06:00] <elkbuntu> nalioth, string test him anyway?
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> nalioth: How about testing him for the exploit
[06:00] <nalioth> i did, elkbuntu.
[06:00] <nalioth> i did, Jack_Sparrow
[06:00] <santium> So I'm good?
[06:00] <elkbuntu> santium, you're safe to enter #ubuntu
[06:01] <santium> Ok. Thanks.
[06:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Didnt mean to interrupt..  Passing through
[06:01] <elkbuntu> Jack_Sparrow, you're ok, he had us confused without you
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[06:19] <C-Radian> Please test me, the bot in #ubuntu-read-topic doesn't work.
[06:20] <nalioth> C-Radian: have you done as asked in the /topic there?
[06:21] <C-Radian> Yes.
[06:22] <nalioth> ok
[06:22] <nalioth> what channel were you banned from/
[06:50] <s|k__> hi
[06:51] <nalioth> hi
[06:51] <s|k`> can someone test me so I can get back into #ubuntu, I upgraded my router firmware
[06:51] <s|k`> please
[06:52] <s|k`> heh
[06:52] <s|k`> I guess it didn't work?
[06:53] <nalioth> nope
[06:53] <s|k`> ok editing config
[06:53] <s|k`> one sec
[06:55] <s|k`> brb
[06:57] <s|k> ok
[06:57] <s|k> please test me again
[07:01] <nalioth> test passed - ban removed.  you may return to #ubuntu now and thanks for putting up with us  :)
[07:03] <s|k> thank you
[07:20] <makers_mark> can someone test me please?
[07:25] <danroj> hola alguien habla español?
[07:38] <elkbuntu> hola danroj, como estas?
[07:38] <danroj> hola
[07:38] <danroj> gracias
[07:38] <danroj> mira tengo una duda
[07:38] <danroj> tengo este canal ##ubuntu-co-es
[07:39] <danroj> y quiero que botijo o algun bot de ubuntu entre a este
[07:39] <danroj> se puede?
[07:39] <jbinder> I don't think my router has new firmware.
[07:40] <elkbuntu> danroj, Ubuntu bots son solamente para los canales oficiales
[07:40] <danroj> elkbuntu, ok
[07:41] <elkbuntu> Cualquier otro tipo de problema?
[07:42] <danroj> elkbuntu, existe algun bot que pueda meter a mi canal?
[07:43] <elkbuntu> No proporciona uno, no
[07:44] <danroj> elkbuntu, ok
[07:44] <danroj> thanks
[08:46] <jussi01> morning all
[08:47] <jussi01> jbinder: did you need some help?
[08:59] <jussi01> hmmm, mr Balls is back and has just joined #ubuntu
[09:04]  * jussi01 sighs where is everyone?
[09:47] <Hobbsee> lost
[09:51] <jussi01> hehe
[13:02] <threeseas> hello, I changed my server setting to include /8001 did the "test me" and it seemed to have done so and told me I can jion ubuntu again but that failed  so tried "test me" it a second time to be told by floodbot1 it can't test me
[13:02] <threeseas> so I'm here
[13:06] <threeseas> I seem to remember this issue before and had fixed it, but since then I've done a full new install of teh latest ubuntu.  Anyway, can someone test me to verifyu and then allow me to join #ubuntu?
[13:08] <elkbuntu> one minute
[13:10] <Helvasca> elkbuntu: can I be allowed to join #ubuntu aswell please
[13:10] <elkbuntu> Helvasca, spamming is usually a 1 week ban
[13:11] <Helvasca> I wasn't spamming, I was requesting some company
[13:11] <elkbuntu> it's still spamming
[13:12] <Helvasca> ok then
[13:12] <Helvasca> Do you by any chance know what date the incident occured?
[13:16] <elkbuntu> Helvasca, 16th
[13:20] <Helvasca> elkbuntu: ok, thanks for that.
[13:27] <threeseas> hmm still no access.
[13:28] <elkbuntu> yes, because i dont know how to test for what you got hit by
[13:28] <elkbuntu> ompaul, how does one test a dcc malformed packet?
[13:28] <ompaul> ccc
[13:28] <ompaul> elkbuntu, can you wait a moment for my brain to catch up please :)
[13:28] <elkbuntu> eh?
[13:29] <elkbuntu> sure
[13:30] <ompaul> elkbuntu, please check pm
[13:30] <ompaul> I think I am immune from stating it in this channel but I don't want to take that chance
[13:31] <elkbuntu> right, you're clean... now i just need to find you in the list
[13:32] <threeseas> thanks
[13:35] <elkbuntu> threeseas, well, ban is lifted (sorry, got sidetracked) so you can join again. anything else you needed here?
[13:37] <threeseas> No, nothing else, thanks for the help.
[13:37] <Tm_T> :)
[13:37]  * Tm_T hugs elkbuntu
[13:37]  * elkbuntu hugs Tm_T
[13:38] <threeseas> whoa, guess I should leave you two alone
[13:38] <elkbuntu> threeseas, we advise people not to hang around here. we occasionally get some nasty people here
[13:38] <ikonia> ttt--- "any chess games I can play" this has been asked a few times and normally ends up in a spam flood
[13:38] <ikonia> ttt--- in #ubuntu
[13:38] <ikonia> keep an eye
[13:38] <ikonia> this happend under 2 different nicks - but the same question/style
[13:40] <ompaul> k
[15:07] <Amaranth> LjL: Why did you send that moron to #ubuntu-offtopic instead of just booting him?
[15:09] <LjL> Amaranth: because i saw no reason not to let him look for beta testers, as long as it wasn't in inappropriate channels?
[15:10] <Seveas> LjL, err... people don't look for beta testers this way
[15:10] <Seveas> spammers look for victims though
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Dont mean to interrupt.. but the guy that wrote reconstructor for remastering the ubuntu cd did just that..  I read his code, ran it and made several suggestions and worked with him for about a month on that project.  But that was a rare occurance..
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> I must agree most are not who/what they say they are.
[15:19] <elkbuntu> danroj, hola?
[15:19] <danroj> elkbuntu, hola
[15:20] <elkbuntu> funny that
[15:23] <jpatrick> LjL: what happened?
[15:26] <LjL> jpatrick: this time i have no idea
[15:26]  * jpatrick looks at awaylog and thinks "woah... :("
[15:27] <LjL> jpatrick: do a /whois on danroj as well
[15:27] <LjL> jpatrick: i have no idea what he's talking about in -irc though
[15:28] <jpatrick> LjL: I'm trying to look for the backlog from here
[15:29] <elkbuntu> LjL, put it through google translate, but i suspect he's asking for a bot for an unofficial channel
[15:29] <jpatrick> LjL: I'm not afraid of banning
[15:29] <jpatrick> LjL: It's just I get bashed everytime I do it by someone
[15:30] <elkbuntu> jpatrick, nobody is going to stand up for the ascii penis crew
[15:30] <LjL> elkbuntu, nah he just said to jpatrick "me toco salr a tomarme unas muestras de sangre". but yeah, i know he's attempting to put some bot of his in ## and failing
[15:30] <LjL> elkbuntu, i beg to differ
[15:30] <LjL> jpatrick: you haven't talked to effie_jayx by the way?
[15:30] <jpatrick> LjL: no, I just god back from Barcelona
[15:30] <jpatrick> got*
[15:31] <elkbuntu> LjL, he said somethign about blood samples
[15:31] <jpatrick> I detach my screen and everything's gone to pot
[15:33] <LjL> jpatrick, let me talk bluntly. #ubuntu-es really is a mess. crysis, danroj and friends are just the obvious result of bad channel management. you need to stop being scared of banning, and if other ops disagree, you need to talk together and decide.
[15:34] <LjL> my opinion is that the channel needs to be very strict for some time. as strict as we are in #ubuntu, roughly.
[15:34] <LjL> it can probably be relaxed later, but the only way to turn it from the total mess it is into a usable support channel is that in the short term, imho.
[15:34] <jpatrick> LjL: danroj => banned big time
[15:35] <LjL> it's not a matter of banning danroj really, it's a general issue.
[15:37] <jpatrick> LjL: and, yes, #ubuntu-es is a mess
[15:38] <jpatrick> I'm only chose to be op there, cos sometimes trolls hope over to #k-es afterwards
[15:38] <LjL> jpatrick: i think the only active ops right now are you, effie, erusul and pelicano, is that correct?
[15:39] <jpatrick> LjL: and Sapote I think
[15:39] <jpatrick> only active op in #k-es is me
[15:40] <LjL> jpatrick: well, i think effie is about as demoralized as you about the state of the channel. as for erusul, i don't know, but he's a good helper in #ubuntu
[15:40] <LjL> about the other two, i don't really know
[15:41] <jpatrick> LjL: but now that the guidelines are in #u-es' /topic, I'm going to be a lot more stcrcicter now
[15:41] <LjL> however, i think this is one of those times (the first?) i'm thinking about proposing myself as an op
[15:41] <jpatrick> then, ask pelicano when you see him
[15:42] <LjL> yes.
[15:42] <LjL> #ubuntu-es currently has 68 users
[15:42] <LjL> #ubuntu-it currently has 78 users
[15:43] <LjL> are there more spanish speakers around or italian speakers?
[15:43] <LjL> if the former, then it would seem clear to me that the channel doesn't attract too many people.
[15:46] <jpatrick> I do not know
[15:47] <jpatrick> and if anyone asks for "botijo" it's on chanlimit as it is
[15:48] <LjL> jpatrick: who owns it?
[15:48] <jpatrick> me
[15:49] <LjL> jpatrick: then ask staff to lift the limit on it
[15:49] <jpatrick> LjL: I ask nal.oth, no answer
[15:50] <LjL> jpatrick: he's away, he'll probably be back in a couple of hours
[15:50] <jpatrick> I'll try in #freenode later
[15:50] <ubotu> IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (gambler)
[15:59] <jpatrick> LjL: I've asked in #freenode
[16:02] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow: i'm not sure getdeb is something i'd particularly recommend... the few packages i've tried from it broke quite badly
[16:05] <LjL> jpatrick: was that you?
[16:05] <jpatrick> LjL: yes
[16:07] <Gary> jpatrick, it already has it set
[16:07] <jpatrick> Gary: pardon?
[16:08] <Gary> extended channel limit
[16:08] <jpatrick> ah, I did not know
[16:12] <jpatrick> Gary: does that mean that not all channels are shown in /whois?
[16:13] <Gary> I only see ten
[16:16] <LjL> jpatrick, it's possible perhaps that the bot joins channels before it's identified to services?
[16:16] <LjL> jpatrick: you should probably use server password rather than nickserv password
[16:17] <jpatrick> LjL: I'm using "supybot.networks.freenode.password:"
[16:18] <LjL> should be right.
[16:19] <jussi01> does anyone know where the current encylopedia file is for ubotu ?
[16:20] <LjL> jussi01: ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org
[16:20] <jussi01> LjL: thanks :)
[16:22] <jpatrick> LjL: is it ok if I put botijo in #-irc?
[16:23] <LjL> jpatrick: does it answer to "!"?
[16:23] <jpatrick> LjL: @
[16:23] <stdin> jpatrick: I used to put this as a cron job http://stdin.pastebin.com/m169716a9
[16:23] <LjL> jpatrick: should be ok then (although ubotu also uses @, but not for factoids, so...)
[16:24] <jpatrick> LjL: could be useful for the @ops trigger
[16:25] <jpatrick> stdin: thanks :)
[16:26] <LjL> cow_cri_tmn_ce_c, hi, can we help you?
[16:34] <jussi01> Seveas: are you around? I have a quick bot question for you. (if you have time)
[17:20] <jpatrick> Gary: what would I have to do to get the chanlimit relaxed for myself?
[17:23] <LjL> jpatrick, favors to Gary
[17:24]  * jussi01 wonders what that means...
[17:24] <Gary> thats favours LjL :p
[17:24] <jpatrick> hehe
[17:24] <LjL> Gary: soury
[17:26] <Gary> jpatrick, you are only in 16 channels
[17:27] <jpatrick> Gary: - #k-offtopic, #k-kde4 and some others
[17:27] <LjL> Gary: oh, and that's that's
[17:27] <Gary> LjL, :-)
[17:28] <Gary> jpatrick, you should be able to join a few more now :-)
[17:28] <jpatrick> Gary: cheers
[17:28] <ikonia> n
[17:28] <ikonia> oops
[17:58]  * jpatrick points LjL to -youth
[17:58] <nalioth> -youth?
[17:59] <jpatrick> nalioth: #ubuntu-youth
[18:00] <LjL> jpatrick, i don't know. i don't find such topics are necessarily bad in there - they're mostly forbidden in -ot because we know they cause flamewars.
[18:00] <jpatrick> LjL: funny how the channels active when it's boy/girl stuff
[18:00] <LjL> heh
[18:02] <ubotu> MilhousePunkRock called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[18:02] <LjL> ompaul, i think the reason was rezalover
[18:03] <ompaul> ahh
[18:03] <PriceChild> He was talking about <rezalover>
[18:03] <ompaul> I'll chat with im
[18:04] <nalioth> jpatrick: yes, i know -term usually means #ubuntu-term
[18:04] <nalioth> i was wondering why you alerted on it, jpatrick
[18:05] <jpatrick> nalioth: just checking if it was approiate
[18:06] <ompaul> PriceChild, did you/anyone get the other party?
[18:06] <PriceChild> ompaul, he left
[18:07] <ompaul> k
[18:27]  * jussi01 cries...
[18:33] <jpatrick> jussi01: give us a f****** break ???
[18:34] <jussi01> jpatrick: ?
[18:34] <jpatrick> jussi01: from #k
[18:34] <jussi01> ahh... yeah
[18:34] <jpatrick> !ohmy > thomas123
[18:39]  * jussi01 tickles jpatrick ... stress less!
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> It looks like our link for easysource is not valid....
[19:21] <ompaul> !easysource
[19:21] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[19:24] <ompaul> Seveas, ^^ any ideas?
[19:24] <Seveas> I disabled it, it was becoming more and more obsolete and thus dangerous
[19:24] <ompaul> !forget easysource
[19:24] <ubotu> I'll forget that, ompaul
[19:27] <ompaul> !botsnack
[19:27] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[19:27]  * ompaul loves that one - and I don't do it often :
[19:27] <ompaul> :)
[19:34] <Daviey> Seveas: Fancy sharing the src for s-o-m?
[19:35] <Seveas> Daviey, lp.net/ubuntu-nl-website
[19:35] <Daviey> woot
[19:36] <Seveas> Daviey, though I might bring it back tomorrow if I can find some time to update it
[19:37] <Daviey> oh ok
[19:53] <jussi01> Seveas: I have a small issue with my bot if you have time. after running update_apt it gives me this error: E: Archive directory /home/jussi/bot/aptdir/cache/archives/partial is missing.
[19:53] <Seveas> well, make sure it's not missing then :)
[19:55] <ubotu> Cpudan80 called the ops in #ubuntu (tdr1976)
[19:55] <nalioth> jussi01: play with yourself
[19:55] <nalioth> jussi01: er, "man touch"
[19:55] <jussi01> nalioth: ?????
[19:55] <Seveas> nalioth, ROFL
[19:56] <jussi01> nalioth: lol, now i get it .. :P
[19:56] <jussi01> Seveas: one more quick one, @load Encyclopedia is giving me: Error: No module named apt
[19:57] <Seveas> apt-get install python-apt
[19:57] <jussi01> ahh, thanks :)
[19:58] <jussi01> Seveas: all working now! thanks alot!
[20:05] <jussi01> Seveas: one more final question. do you know which plugin I can use to get the bot to post commit messages from launchpad bzr to the channel?
[20:05] <Seveas> no
[20:05] <jussi01> ok, thanks :)
[20:05] <jpatrick> jussi01: RSS?
[21:26] <jussi01> jpatrick: do you know where to find the rss plugin?  I cant seem to find it... I downloaded the plugins package from supybot, bot no help :(
[21:27] <jpatrick> jussi01: really? it should be included by default..
[21:28] <jussi01> yeah, I would have thought so too.
[21:30] <Seveas> jussi01, @load RSS :)
[21:30] <stdin> jussi01: it's in the supybot package: /usr/share/python-support/supybot/supybot/plugins/RSS/
[21:31] <jussi01> stdin: ahh thanks..
[21:40] <tekteen> please kick Kathy^ from #kubuntu
[21:41] <jpatrick> tekteen: why?
[21:41] <tekteen> she sent me Double Click Here --==-->>> irc://JB.MagixBox.Net
[21:41] <tekteen> guessing a bot
[21:41] <jpatrick> one moment please
[21:41] <tekteen> ty
[21:42] <jpatrick> tekteen: /remove-d
[21:43] <tekteen> ?
[21:43] <nalioth> ah, i wish you'd not have done that  :(
[21:43] <jussi01> nalioth: what is the corrrect proceedure?
[21:43] <nalioth> we kline them
[21:43] <jpatrick> nalioth: sorry
[21:43] <Seveas> nalioth, nothing stops you from k-lining anyway :)
[21:44] <Seveas> jpatrick, no need to apologize, getting rid of spammers is good
[21:44] <jpatrick> Seveas: but kline sounds good :)
[21:46] <nalioth> Seveas: i have to personally catch the bot in the act
[21:46] <Seveas> nalioth, leaving the bot/user in a channel to annoy others doesn't help there
[21:46] <nalioth> Seveas: there are a number of people who'd love to just say "oh, seveas just spammed me with [something off topic]
[21:46] <jpatrick> nalioth: it did it in private
[21:46] <nalioth> Seveas: they were in many #ubuntu channels
[21:46] <Seveas> nalioth, but spamming in pm
[21:46] <nalioth> jpatrick: i know how they work  :)
[21:47] <nalioth> so it makes sense to kline the one bot from _all_ the channels
[21:47] <jpatrick> don't we all :)
[21:49] <nalioth> jpatrick: lots of bots are programmed not to spam staff members
[21:50] <jpatrick> nalioth: that would just make it to easy to throw them out :)
[22:06] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)
[22:06] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)
[22:32] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, lazy247x said: !msg my SSID is somehow defaulted not to my home network in network-admin. does anyone know a way to change this?
[23:07] <no0tic> I have added banforward functions to irssi auto_bleh.pl. You can found it on http://no0tic.homelinux.org/~no0tic . Multiple banforward coming soon
[23:07] <no0tic> *find
[23:07]  * nalioth locks no0tic back in the basement, so he can stay hard at work without distractions
[23:08]  * jussi01 hugs no0tic
[23:08] <jussi01> you rock!
[23:09] <nalioth> no0tic: i think your "read it" doens't match your "download it"
[23:10] <no0tic> nalioth, I've changed both of them probably after you downloaded it
[23:11] <jussi01> no0tic: so how does the syntax work?
[23:12] <no0tic> nalioth, ah, now it quiets nick with /aq and hostmasks as usual with /at
[23:12] <no0tic> jussi01, /afr nick #channel <reason>
[23:12] <no0tic> jussi01, /afrn nick #channel <reason> if you want to send him a notice too
[23:12] <jussi01> ahh, great!
[23:13] <jussi01> someone want to join #dib5sn for me to test?
[23:15] <jussi01> no0tic: thats great. thanks a million!
[23:15] <jussi01> ardchoille: you seeing this?
[23:17] <nalioth> no0tic: i haven't downloaded anything
[23:17] <no0tic> ah
[23:18] <no0tic> nalioth, well now they are the same, I've just run a diff
[23:24] <nalioth> so /afr is banforward but what is /afrn ?
[23:24] <jussi01> banforward with notice to user
[23:24] <nalioth> ah
[23:24] <jussi01> ie: [01:11] <+no0tic> jussi01, /afrn nick #channel <reason> if you want to send him a notice too
[23:25] <nalioth> so /afrn no0tic ##fix_your_connection contact me to be unbanned                   <<< proper usage?
[23:25] <jussi01> yeps :)
[23:25] <no0tic> yes
[23:25]  * nalioth loads it up
[23:25] <jussi01> uh oh...
[23:25] <crdlb> I could be mistaken, but won't it eat the first word of your reason if you're not using forward?
[23:25]  * nalioth now looks for guinea pigs
[23:25] <no0tic> crdlb, no
[23:26] <jussi01> crdlb: there is other syntax for that
[23:26] <jussi01> crdlb: ie. /abrn
[23:26] <crdlb> this line:     my $redirchannel = $3;
[23:27] <no0tic> crdlb, $data =~ /^\s*([^\s]+)\s*(\d+)?\s*(#[^\s]+)?\s*(.+?|)\s*$/
[23:27] <PriceChild> Stand back! no0tic knows regular expressions.
[23:27] <crdlb> ok, I don't really know perl, so ... :D
[23:27] <nalioth> hmm
[23:27] <no0tic> crdlb, $3 is (#[^\s]+)?
[23:27] <no0tic> crdlb, last ? stands for "optional"
[23:28] <crdlb> ahhh
[23:28] <nalioth>   /afrn doesn't ban  :(
[23:28] <no0tic> PriceChild, no0tic know how to seem to know them, simply copied :)
[23:29] <PriceChild> no0tic, shhh, don't tell anyone else and grab an xkcd shirt
[23:29] <nalioth> no0tic: do you have a "work channel" ?
[23:29] <no0tic> PriceChild, fantastic comics
[23:29] <ardchoille> jussi01: Yep, got it :)
[23:29] <no0tic> nalioth, no, but jussi01 just banned me with a notice
[23:29] <jussi01> nalioth: feel free to use #dib5sn
[23:32] <ardchoille> no0tic: Thank you for your work on this, much appreciated :)


[00:33] <hobgoblin> hello sary
[17:48] <wildmanne39> hi cortman you around
[18:32] <cortman> now i am wildmanne39
[18:34] <wildmanne39> Hi cortman I was just going to ask if I can convert one of your threads on the import page but I started on another one
[18:44] <cortman> oh ok
[18:44] <cortman> which one wildmanne39, I might still let you. :)
[18:47] <wildmanne39> How To: Manual Network Configuration without the need for Network Manager is looks like a hard one, I am going to be leaving town in the next day or two so it will have to wait until I get back now that I am working on another one
[18:49] <cortman> Oh yeah
[18:49] <cortman> Kevdog was going to look it over
[18:49] <cortman> Since there already is one pretty similar in the wiki
[18:49]  * cortman forgot to check for existing pages when added that one
[18:50] <cortman> So I think that one is under control, I need to PM kevdog and ask how it went, he was going to look it over and add/clear up last weekend.
[18:51] <wildmanne39> ok sounds good
[22:01] <cortman> !topic