[06:13] <rjian> still not working it says sudo: /etc/samba/smb.conf: command not found
[06:13] <rjian> .. wat will i do??
[06:13] <Healot> !ati
[06:13] <ubotu> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[06:13] <Dial_tone> ln -s /directory symlink
[06:13] <tuxtheslacker> anyone have any ideas?
[06:14] <Pelo> I need to read a "second" hdd it's my NTFS drive for my xp, I would like to access it from ubuntu ( which is on a seperate hdd altogether)
[06:14] <garryfre> Do sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:14] <Healot> Configure your mplayer
[06:14] <bobstro> croesus:  or you could just install lokkit and gnome-lokkit. looks like the same thing.
[06:14] <croesus> bobstro: yeah I've been using that,..
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> tuxtheslacker,  you are getting beter at asking the questions at least. :P sorry i dont have an ipod.. or any other info to help. you may want to check the ubuntu wiki/forums however.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> !ipod
[06:14] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[06:14] <cprog> anybody know if its possible to change any settings so that i can VNC into a box running XGL without VNC trying to startup XGL?
[06:14] <linuxuser> wonders how a beer would taste right about now
[06:14] <ic56> Pelo: point your browser to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Page down to "Instructions", and read till the next blank line.  Follow the instructions to save and run the file.  It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer.
[06:14] <ic56> Pelo: The script will ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.  Answer no.  If you already tried unsuccessfully to add your Windows filesystems to /etc/fstab , add a -b flag to the script invocation.  I authored this version, so I can help if anything goes wrong.
[06:15] <rjian> dos anyone knows wat will i do if it says sudo: /etc/samba/smb.conf: command not found
[06:15] <rjian> ?
[06:15] <bobstro> croesus:  so what is firestarter *not* doing that you need?
[06:15] <tuxtheslacker> anyone?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> cprog,  you can set vnc to use its own 'x startup' script. if you ssh in and use 'vncserver' - to make it load what you want.
[06:15] <croesus> bobstro:  and here is the services app I've been so addicted to...http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/config-tools/redhat-config-services.html
[06:15] <baconbacon> rjian: sudo gedit /etc/...
[06:15] <cprog> dr_willis, how so?
[06:15] <garryfre> rjian: Do this command sudo /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:15] <odat> Dial_tone, that doesn't look right
[06:15] <tuxtheslacker> anyone know how to change a force option in the autowriter?
[06:15] <cprog> /etc/vnc.conf?
[06:15] <tuxtheslacker> automounter*
[06:15] <garryfre> rjian: er I mean  Do this command sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:15] <Boelcke> Can anyone suggest how to create a new "print style" in KAddressBook? I'm trying to replace my wife's PalmDesktop functionality to keep her positive about our recent switch to linux as a primary desktop!  ;)
[06:15] <mister_roboto> cprog: you mean that you want VNC to not show the GUI?
[06:15] <pc22> how do i restore grub? all i have is dapper installer and livecd of hoary?
[06:15] <rjian> ah ok thnx
[06:15] <croesus> bobstro: I'd like to be able to click on a service and enable it
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> cprog,  vncserver  normally reads the users .vnc/xstartup (check the vncserver script/binary for some neat info)
[06:16] <agcook> crimsun: is the build command line you gave creating a new kernel for me to install?
[06:16] <cprog> dr_willis, thanks, ill try that
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> cprog,  not im not sure about xgl however.. you could just have vnc start a simple window managher.
[06:16] <odat> Dial_tone, can you give me a full example
[06:16] <Pelo> ic56,  thanks , I made a paste of your instructions, and I will try them , thanks you very much
[06:16] <GO> how can i "get permission" to work in my terminal, i am the only admin
[06:16] <ic56> Pelo: yw!
[06:16] <tuxtheslacker> Dr_Willis, woudl you have any idea how to deal with changing what the auto mounter does?
[06:16] <[NP] Tangent> quick question: Printscrn will take a screenshot in Ubuntu, right?
[06:16] <bobstro> croesus:  and you checked out System->Serivces menu?
[06:16] <crimsun> agcook: no, it installs build dependencies and downloads the source for the kernel.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> GO,  you are being a littel vague.
[06:16] <bill_> Anyone been able to install Mac OS X 10 Ubuntu?
[06:16] <NickGarvey> go: sudo -i
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> tuxtheslacker,  not really. i tend to mount my stuff manually for total controll.
[06:17] <NickGarvey> bill_: what? that doesn't make any sense at all heh
[06:17] <crimsun> agcook: you need to edit the source as you wish, then change debian/config/*
[06:17] <tuxtheslacker> Dr_Willis, this won't let me mount manually :-/.
[06:17] <jon_> How do I uninstall java?
[06:17] <bill_> Why?
[06:17] <crimsun> agcook: namely, you probably want to remove the configs for the $arches you don't want to compile
[06:17] <agcook> crimsun: ah... so then I should be able to compile using the line I used before?
[06:17] <agcook> crimsun: oic
[06:17] <crimsun> agcook: no, you need to install fakeroot and devscripts in addition
[06:17] <tuxtheslacker> Dr_Willis, can you give me instructions on how to get this thing to mount manually so that I can force it to mount as write?
[06:17] <garryfre> I think Bill, means he wants to do vmware OS 10
[06:18] <crimsun> agcook: further, you need the ABI files from the previous release
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> tuxtheslacker,  im not sure you want to be using the HFS+ stuff. (i dont have an ipod so cant tell ya much more)
[06:18] <farous> is there a prob with the repos i get the message connection time out too often nowdays?
[06:18] <linuxuser> wonders how a beer at a strip bar would taste tonight
[06:18] <bill_> Yes!
[06:18] <bill_> How?
[06:18] <GO> one example of a response to the command is (bash: /etc/samba/smb.conf: Permission denied)
[06:18] <cprog> mister_roboto, i want to VNC into a box with a GUI, but while running XGL, it only shows the grey screen and hangs
[06:18] <garryfre> !vmware
[06:18] <croesus> bobstro: the system-administration-services doesn't seem -nearly- as detailed...
[06:18] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> tuxtheslacker,  make a fstab file entry that mounts it whever ya want, and check tehman page for mount as to what 'option' to give it for 'force' the rw I guess.
[06:18] <tuxtheslacker> haha! anyone know how to make my ipod a fat32?
[06:18] <bobstro> croesus:  well there are others. but how much more detailed do you need?
[06:18] <linuxuser> ipeed
[06:19] <tuxtheslacker> yeah, Dr_Willis I tried that, and it tells me the special device can't be found.
[06:19] <tuxtheslacker> Dr_Willis, /dev/ipod  /mnt/ipod  hfsplus  async,nodev,nosuid,user,rw,noauto 0 0
[06:19] <bobstro> croesus:  are you wanting to set multiple runlevels or what?
[06:19] <pc22> how do i restore grub? all i have is dapper installer and livecd of hoary?
[06:19] <linuxuser> ms' s alternative to the ipod will be the ipeed
[06:19] <jon_> How do I uninstall java?
[06:19] <rjian> how can i restart samba?
[06:19] <Dial_tone> odat: I could but I won't.....give a man a fish.....
[06:19] <croesus> I want to go in and turn on or off the mysql daemon, the fltpd,apache, etc...and be able to click a button and stop all access through port 80 to the outside world.....
[06:20] <farous> !!java
[06:20] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous
[06:20] <farous> !java
[06:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[06:20] <snoops> linuxboy.. that's a stunning bit of originality you got going *rolls eyes*
[06:20] <witsend> Hi.  Something mysterious has happened that is causing the colors in totem and xine to be completely wrong.  It has happened on 3 of my computers now.  Any clues?
[06:20] <ic56> tuxtheslacker: should that be /media/ipod rather than /mnt/ipod on an Ubuntu box?!
[06:20] <snoops> linuxuser* rather
[06:20] <tuxtheslacker> ic56, I made a file /mnt/ipod instead of /media.
[06:20] <bobstro> croesus:  well, lokkit for gnome probably gives you the same firewall interface you had before.
[06:21] <GO> how do i take care of that "permission" issue
[06:21] <linuxuser> tough crowd tonight
[06:21] <NickGarvey> linuxuser: heh
[06:21] <croesus> bobstro: I like the apt system for ubuntu...I love all the packages out there...it's just a few legacy apps that are holding me back form being able to be completely productive with it...
[06:21] <baconbacon> GO ... what specific permission
[06:21] <farous> witsend: i am having troubles with totem here too keep craching
[06:21] <garryfre> I have heard that the kernel has a built in firewall.
[06:21] <ic56> tuxtheslacker: what are your reasons for preferring /mnt/ipod over /media?
[06:21] <GO> bash: /etc/samba/smb.conf: Permission denied
[06:21] <bobstro> croesus:  and the Services panel DOES start and stop what services are installed.
[06:21] <eFoX> when i try to create a symbolic link, it says the file exists
[06:21] <tuxtheslacker> ic56, I just generally do...
[06:21] <baconbacon> of course you could run everything as root (just kidding, dont do this!!)
[06:21] <croesus> bobstro: I'll try lokkit...thnaks for hte advice.
[06:22] <rjian> anyone knows how to restart the samba??
[06:22] <tuxtheslacker> ic56, I'm more used to it, and it shouldn't be relevant where it mounts....
[06:22] <eFoX> how can i change that ?
[06:22] <ic56> tuxtheslacker: what about Places> Computer ?
[06:22] <bobstro> croesus:  you want to BLOCK access to port 80 to outside, or block inbound on port 80?
[06:22] <baconbacon> rjian: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[06:22] <rjian> ah ok thnx
[06:22] <tuxtheslacker> ic56, what about it?
[06:22] <baconbacon> or one of those files in /etc/init.d thats looks like samba
[06:22] <bobstro> croesus:  i'm checking for a more option-ful services panel for ya
[06:23] <croesus> bobstro: if needed...both ;)
[06:23] <harry> does banshee also work on mobile phones when tansfering audio musics like mp3??
[06:23] <rjian> y is windows when browsing asking for password? do i have to add user so that they can access?
[06:23] <bobstro> croesus:  i do the symlinks for init scripts manually out of habit, so don't know the gui tools.
[06:24] <GO> -bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[06:24] <ic56> tuxtheslacker: Places> Computer is setup to display the (presumably removable) devices under /media.  When you put something under /mnt , did you sacrificie access to it under Places>Media (though, of course you could still get to it by digging deeper) or did you remap Places>computer to /mnt ?
[06:24] <croesus> bobstro: thanks
[06:24] <KrisWood> Weee I'm signed on from my main PC, now fully operational with dapper :) Now to get all my apps installed / working
[06:24] <croesus> bobstro: lokkit available via apt?
[06:24] <linuxuser> not to be out done by ms, apple ceo steve jobs announced that the ipod would be renamed the ipooped
[06:24] <GO> i dont no what else to say about my problem
[06:24] <KrisWood> has anyone here tried getting 3dsmax and/or photoshop working on ubuntu?
[06:24] <harry> does banshee also work on mobile phones when tansfering audio musics like mp3??
[06:24] <tuxtheslacker> ic56, I don't use that part a :-D and part b, it won't mount.
[06:24] <croesus> bobstro: synaptics doesn't seem to find it
[06:24] <bobstro> croesus:  yes, have you tried synaptic (System->Administration)?
[06:25] <harry> KrisWood: try working with gimp from now
[06:25] <bobstro> croesus:  oh, you want other sources enabled.
[06:25] <krie> hi
[06:25] <KrisWood> no, gimp won't do at all
[06:25] <KrisWood> :p
[06:25] <harry> KrisWood: you'll get used to it.
[06:25] <mnishizawa> question on dapper upgrade w/ wireless nic
[06:25] <KrisWood> everyone says that
[06:25] <ic56> tuxtheslacker: ah! ok, thanks.
[06:25] <harry> does banshee also work on mobile phones when tansfering audio musics like mp3??
[06:25] <krie> i'm new user
[06:25] <rjian> can anyone help me.. because windows browse to ubuntu reuqest a password?? how can they access ubuntu??
[06:25] <KrisWood> I'm not gonna throw out my photoshop CS cd just because it's difficult to get working properly on linux
[06:25] <bobstro> croesus:  try Synaptic->Settings->Repositories and enable the missing
[06:25] <KrisWood> I hear it works well with Crossover Office
[06:26] <GO> it might help if someone went one on one with me i am more noob than ne1s probably ever seen
[06:26] <croesus> bobstro: found it...
[06:26] <bobstro> rjian:  do you have samba running?
[06:26] <harry> KrisWood: i admit photoshop is really that gud. i wud also choose the same thing. but somehow i'm tyring hard with gimp
[06:26] <rjian> yup already running
[06:26] <harry> Kriswood: do you have wine??
[06:26] <rjian> but windows browse and a password appear...
[06:26] <bobstro> rjian:  well, they're probably accessing shares then, just like a windows box
[06:27] <bobstro> rjian:  yes, if not same workgroup/domain and you browse to it, that will happen.
[06:27] <harry> KrisWood: do you have wine?? or you dont know wine yet??
[06:27] <bobstro> rjian:  you can set up samba just like a windows box.
[06:27] <rjian> how can i do like that?
[06:27] <mnishizawa> I just upgraded a machine to dapper and my wireless card has stopped getting an ip from the router... I get signal from the router, my network info has not changed, but no ip address
[06:28] <bobstro> rjian:  check out the samba howtos. there's probably one for ubuntu somewhere.
[06:28] <croesus> mnishizawa: reboot the router
[06:28] <mnishizawa> croesus: is that it?
[06:29] <croesus> mnishizawa: it worked for mine when I had the same problem
[06:29] <mnishizawa> k
[06:29] <harry> KrisWood: i think wine can help to install photoshop CS on linux
[06:29] <eFoX> could someone help me get a splash image to appear on my grub :(
[06:29] <rjian> how can i add user on samba?
[06:29] <b0rg> hi.
[06:29] <croesus> harry: wine does an ok job, but crossover office makes it work quite well...
[06:30] <harry> croesus: whats crossover office??
[06:30] <croesus> harry standby...it's commercial
[06:30] <linuxuser> xandros has crossover office
[06:30] <linuxuser> ive used it
[06:30] <linuxuser> nice
[06:30] <mister_roboto> mnishizawa: i had the exact same problem. i never could get it to work until i reinstalled dapper from scratch. it was like the updated dapper was using some old info from breezy or something. never did figure out how to get the upgrade working. the upgrade didn't work but booting from the live cd worked fine.  <shrug>
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> rjian,  like smbpasswd -a username    - So they can access their  samba/home share?
[06:31] <harry> croesus: can you explain it further. does it work like wine, but its much better ??
[06:31] <b0rg> well i have got ubuntu installed. runs great iam sure i will have ons of noob questions ;)
[06:31] <croesus> harry http://www.codeweavers.com/   wine on steroids
[06:31] <alpa> can anyone please help me to make my repository into universal!
[06:31] <sjoerd_> Anyone knows a password manager / safe that works for both Windows XP and Ubuntu?
[06:32] <croesus> linuxuser: yes, xandros (the "full version") has crossover
[06:32] <NickGarvey> sjoerd_: brain?
[06:32] <NickGarvey> ;)
[06:32] <linuxuser> sjoerd: you could set up a bios boot password i would think
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> sjoerd,  just use the password 'password' that way you never forget it. :P
[06:32] <harry> croesus: does crossover office helps better than wine when intalling windows application??
[06:33] <croesus> harry pretty much
[06:33] <sjoerd_> linuxuser I'm not talking about the bios boot password
[06:33] <sjoerd_> I'm talking about a program to store passwords
[06:33] <bobstro> ok, anybody know of a more functional runlevel editor for croesus?
[06:33] <nathanael> I have no sound whenever I play flash files in Firefox (Dapper Drake)
[06:33] <nathanael> How do I enable sound for FLash in firefox?
[06:34] <linuxuser> two distinct operating systems , one program to manage both passwords, i doubt it
[06:34] <sjoerd_> you don't want to :)
[06:34] <croesus> harry:  I used it to install my 6 yr old daughter's lil' windows games on her distro of ubuntu and they all work fine..
[06:34] <bobstro> croesus:  you can start/stop services with what's there, but i'm not finding anything prettier.
[06:34] <montezuma> could anyone help me to install the plugin to be able to play mpgs?
[06:34] <bobstro> sjoerd:  you mean a password safe type program?
[06:34] <sjoerd_> linuxuser: It doesn't have to be one program, just the same database.
[06:34] <croesus> bobstro thanks for all your help :)
[06:34] <francf> nathanael, there is an excelent guide in the forums, let me search and give you the link
[06:34] <sjoerd_> bobstro: Yes, that is what I was asking about
[06:34] <bobstro> croesus:  it can be done, just interface looks a little different
[06:34] <nathanael> thanks
[06:34] <nathanael> I tried linking the .so files - didn't work
[06:35] <croesus> bobstro yep...I just don't have the time to write one myself at the moment but I might have to...
[06:35] <harry> croesus: does crossover helps me install drivers for my hardwares using a CD's. example for my graphic cards? or i can install my drivers without the help of wine or crossover by just the CD's
[06:35] <sjoerd_> ok there is no safe available as you know?
[06:35] <bobstro> croesus:  i honestly don't understand what it is that's missing from what's there that you need, unless you want to edit MULTIPLE runlevels?
[06:36] <bobstro> sjoerd:  i'm not aware of one, but checking the gnu
[06:36] <KrisWood> Damn this is the flashiest linux I've seen yet :)
[06:36] <KrisWood> ok, up next is getting drivers for all my hardware...
[06:36] <Scotti> sjoerd_: errr........ can i msg you and ask a few questions? I just cant hack the speed of this chat, I havent got my glasses right now :(
[06:36] <KrisWood> Anyone here use a wacom tablet with ubuntu?
[06:36] <nathanael> Does everyone here with Dapper have sound in Firefox when viewing Flash?
[06:36] <sjoerd_> Scotti: sure.
[06:36] <croesus> bobstro, actually using the sysVinit on ubuntu you -can- edit multiple runlevels...it's just screwed up a bit in the way it come accross...perhaps it's intended for Kubuntu instead?
[06:37] <linuxuser> nathanael: dunno, never checked
[06:37] <croesus> nathanael: yes
[06:37] <nomad111> im so screwed ubuntu setup wont finish on my laptop it is screwed my mbr and i cant boot anything im using my "KUBUNTU" live cd at the moment
[06:37] <linuxuser> nathanael: i do know that real player works ok
[06:37] <nathanael> croesus: And no issues getting it to work?
[06:37] <bobstro> croesus:   if it works, does it matter?
[06:37] <nomad111> it just ceases at 'Running 22gnome_panel_data'
[06:37] <nomad111> in the setup
[06:37] <eFoX> can i copy an image to the "splash.xpm.gz" ? or do i have to do something special ?
[06:38] <rightcoast> nathanael, http://roel.wordpress.com/2005/10/19/fix-sound-for-flash-on-ubuntu/
[06:38] <morphix> where are all the man pages kept?
[06:38] <francf> nathanael, the problem is while Flash play a sound, take over the sound card, no matter if you are using a ESD daemon.
[06:38] <nathanael> thanks
[06:38] <croesus> bobstro works, just once invoked it won't close...unless you ps aux and kill all the proc
[06:38] <francf> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&page=3
[06:38] <francf> use this link
[06:38] <NickGarvey> morphix: /usr/share/doc
[06:38] <nathanael> thanks
[06:38] <rightcoast> ignore the question marks btw
[06:38] <NickGarvey> morphix: has a lot of stuff
[06:38] <rightcoast> in that code
[06:38] <nomad111> cant any1 help me
[06:38] <croesus> nathanael: I ddin't have any problems with it
[06:38] <morphix> NickGarvey: what about /usr/share/man ?
[06:38] <KrisWood> hmmm My windows formatted hard drives are showing up in the file browser but when I click them it says I cannot mount them
[06:38] <croesus> nathanael: youtube city
[06:38] <NickGarvey> morphix: there too ;)
[06:39] <bobstro> croesus:  and you really need to edit those often enough to make/break choice of distribution?
[06:39] <linuxuser> kriswood: formated in ntfs?
[06:39] <morphix> NickGarvey: well hopefully thats all deleted then :)
[06:39] <NickGarvey> morphix: haha  no bloat for you?
[06:39] <linuxuser> nomad111: easyubuntu
[06:39] <nomad111> wats that
[06:39] <KrisWood> linuxuser: one is, another is fat32
[06:39] <morphix> NickGarvey: i am creating a live cd/dvd
[06:39] <croesus> bobstro: I'm a freak, I'll admit it...but it's not so much editting the runlevel as stopping and starting the processes... that I use it for...
[06:40] <NickGarvey> morphix: oh cool
[06:40] <ic56> KrisWood: point your browser to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Page down to "Instructions", and read till the next blank line.  Follow the instructions to save and run the file.  It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer.
[06:40] <ic56> KrisWood: The script will ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.  Answer no.  If you already tried unsuccessfully to add your Windows filesystems to /etc/fstab , add a -b flag to the script invocation.  I authored this version, so I can help if anything goes wrong.
[06:40] <KrisWood> hmmm, I also have an unformatted hard drive that isn't showing up at all
[06:40] <linuxuser> kriswood: is this a livecd your running and drive located inside the pc?
[06:40] <KrisWood> Thanks ic56
[06:40] <bobstro> croesus:  use the init scripts directly then (sudo /etc/init.d/<whatever> start|stop works for me
[06:40] <KrisWood> linuxuser: no, this is a full install
[06:40] <ic56> KrisWood: yw!
[06:40] <nomad111> linuxuser: its ceasing at this step in the setup "Running 22gnome_panel_data"
[06:40] <scud> has anyone attempted to install xen on their ubuntu install?
[06:41] <nomad111> i got intel chipset 945gm
[06:41] <bobstro> croesus:  i installed "bum" and it will let you start/stop interactively.
[06:41] <PwcrLinux> Kris: did you dumped the windows out?
[06:41] <bobstro> croesus:  if you insist on a gui :)
[06:41] <harry> croesus: which one is better. the Crossover office or the Cedega. if just used for installing games??
[06:41] <morphix> is there a tool in ubuntu dapper which shows the sizes of all installed apps? so i can see what i really dont need.
[06:42] <bobstro> croesus:  but still limited to current runlevel
[06:42] <garryfre> So many people ask, they should put a link to ic56's awesome script in one of the pages above.
[06:42] <KrisWood> PwcrLinux: yeah, I moved all my important files to two of the drives and reformatted my C drive as my root filesystem :)
[06:42] <Scotti> sjoerd_ ?
[06:42] <bobstro> garryfre:  what script is that?
[06:42] <eFoX> i put an image for my grub..but i put the wrong one, now i cant change it...could someone help me ?
[06:42] <rjian> how can i disable the password when windows login to ubuntu?
[06:43] <PwcrLinux> Kris: ah, that's good, but the NFTS cannot be open in your linux to view it....
[06:43] <garryfre> bobstro He wrote a nice script to allow folks to set up access to windows drives under places.
[06:43] <nathanael> Wow -that was an awesome-ly simple solution
[06:43] <nathanael> fantastic
[06:43] <mepis1> no kuickshow in mepis?
[06:43] <linuxuser> rjian: system, administration, windows login,
[06:43] <bobstro> garryfre:  doesn't Places->Network Places do that?
[06:43] <krazykit> mepis1: ask #mepis
[06:44] <KrisWood> how do I format and mount a hard drive that's not yet partitioned at all?
[06:44] <wulax> eFoX: use a liveCD?
[06:44] <ic56> garryfre: that link is a beta.  The last officially published version is on the wiki.  Also, I'm not the original author -- just the latest author to make improvements to the script.  This version will become official soon, hopefully.
[06:44] <nathanael> format (drive)
[06:44] <rjian> theres no windows login ??
[06:44] <b0rg> is ther spyware/adware risk with linux if so whats a good program to handle this? (sorry for noob questions)
[06:44] <Scotti> Firstly, I have a project on at the moment where I need to impliment a file server to hold large graphics files as well as use Acronis True Image to image the fresh install of each workstation on the network. Can I do all of this in Linux instead of Windows, and if so how hard is it to set up?
[06:44] <mepis1> krazykit: same base system
[06:44] <Scotti> sjoerd_
[06:44] <sjoerd_> yes Scotti
[06:44] <sparkleytone> ? virus
[06:44] <KrisWood> b0rg: very little risk
[06:45] <bobstro> rjian:  are your linux and windows systems in same workgroup (samba)?
[06:45] <Scotti> sjoerd_ I cant MSG, i am not registered :(
[06:45] <krazykit> mepis1: not really.  they install different things by default.
[06:45] <garryfre> bobstro Might, I dunno.  ic56 says there is a stable version of it on the wiki already
[06:45] <sjoerd_> as far as I know  you don't have to be registered
[06:45] <b0rg> awsome ;)
[06:45] <Scotti> sjoerd_ : Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[06:45] <rjian> yup this is a workgroup i just want to disable the password when windows browse my computer??
[06:45] <mepis1> krazykit: not in synaptic either
[06:45] <PwcrLinux> Kris: I recommend get new hard drive, and pop the install linux CD and then look for "Format and install", it's much easier than partations..
[06:45] <nathanael> Kriswood: Did you already try the disk utility in Administration?
[06:45] <sjoerd_> just type /query sjoerd_ hi
[06:45] <Cornellius> Why can I encode in every formats imaginable except mp3 ?
[06:45] <croesus> bostro thanks again
[06:46] <Cornellius> I'm using SoundConverter atm.
[06:46] <bobstro> croesus:  good luck with it!
[06:46] <croesus> bobstro thanks again
[06:46] <croesus> :)
[06:46] <Scotti> I did....
[06:46] <croesus> sorry
[06:46] <krazykit> mepis1: then it's not in the repos.  either look for a deb or compile it yourself.
[06:46] <croesus> harry: I've not tried cdega
[06:46] <garryfre> They have a trial of Cedega you can try.
[06:47] <bobstro> rjian:  you can save the password in windows
[06:47] <croesus> harry: but I can tell you that crossover runs all the freddi the fish and putt-putt games easily ;)
[06:47] <ic56> bobstro, garryfre: the official version: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions  and the latest version (soon to be official<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:47] <KrisWood> ic56: This file you sent me to, it says the NTFS thing is experimental, how reliable is it?
[06:47] <rjian> hmmm i didnt set yet anypassword??
[06:47] <ic56> KrisWood: reading NTFS works fine.  Writing is unsafe.  I recommend answering NO to writing NTFS
[06:47] <KrisWood> ok
[06:48] <Cornellius> Mepis is based on Debian or what ?
[06:48] <rjian> do i have to adduser so that they can access ubuntu??
[06:48] <bobstro> rjian:  did you do System->Administration->Shared Folders?
[06:48] <KrisWood> Cool thanks :) now how do I partition an unpartitioned drive?
[06:48] <rjian> yup
[06:49] <bobstro> rjian:  well, samba user password is different than regular user. i don't use samba on ubuntu, so am used to doing it manually.
[06:49] <Cornellius> Forget it, though I had already installed gstreamer-lame
[06:49] <Cornellius> Doing it
[06:49] <ic56> KrisWood: GUI or CLI answer?
[06:49] <KrisWood> either
[06:49] <KrisWood> whichever is more reliable
[06:49] <rjian> so can u help me how to disable the password thing??
[06:49] <KrisWood> I'm not a linux noob but it's been ages since I've used the linux fdisk
[06:49] <KrisWood> (haven't used it since redhat 7)
[06:50] <PwcrLinux> Kris: or you can copy file from the NTFS drive (your text or doc files, but don't copy any EXE, COM and etc..) to your HOME or on your desktop screen..
[06:50] <NickGarvey> KrisWood: gparted works for me
[06:50] <ScottiNailon> there. I am registered...
[06:50] <bobstro> KrisWood:  cfdisk is decent curses version
[06:51] <KrisWood> NickGarvey: I'm not seeing that on apt-get, do I need the extra repositories to get it?
[06:51] <rjian> bobstro: so can u help me how to disable the password thing??
[06:51] <KrisWood> which brings up the question of where can I find a list of extra repositories? I know you guys recommend against using the ubuntu guide
[06:51] <ic56> KrisWood: I only know CLI.  run "fdisk /dev/hdb" (assuming hdb is the drive with the empty space. it's interactive. you want to n (add New partition), answer the prompts, then w (write partition table), then q (quit)
[06:51] <bobstro> rjian:  did you try System->Administration->Shared Folders?
[06:51] <ScottiNailon> sjoerd_
[06:51] <croesus> this channel reminds me more and more of #linpeople back in like1999 or so
[06:52] <KrisWood> yeah it's hdb I think heh
[06:52] <bobstro> croesus:  well it's irc :)
[06:52] <NickGarvey> KrisWood: lemme check min
[06:52] <KrisWood> it was drive D in windows
[06:52] <harry> croesus: how much does crossover cost??
[06:52] <rjian> bobstro: yup already done the shared.. but when i double click the ubuntu computer the password thing appear
[06:52] <NickGarvey> KrisWood: gparted - partition editor for GNOME
[06:52] <ic56> KrisWood: then mkfs /dev/hdb<partition number>
[06:52] <jorvis_> I just finished a Dapper installation ... should I follow the nVidia binary driver instructions in the wiki?  Is there a reason not to?
[06:52] <NickGarvey> KrisWood: I have all repos on though
[06:52] <croesus> bobstro: yeah, but people actually try to HELP in here ;)
[06:52] <Cornellius> What's wrong with the Ubuntu Guide ? Anyway, you can try ''EasyUbuntu'' KrisWood
[06:52] <bobstro> rjian:  did you try same username/password?
[06:52] <bobstro> croesus:  we can flame you if you like
[06:53] <croesus> harry didn't you follow the link I posted?
[06:53] <b0rg> can someone pm..... i have very very noob question and i feel silly askign in chat
[06:53] <rjian> bobstro: yup ive already done i cant login...
[06:53] <croesus> I'll pass :0
[06:53] <bobstro> b0rg:  ask away. that way others can learn too.
[06:53] <Cornellius> b0rg: No stupid questions
[06:53] <bobstro> b0rg:  nobody can see you.
[06:53] <simpkins> How come when i installed KDE That the Screen Resolution prog is gone ?
[06:53] <linuxuser> b0rg: laughing is not allowed here
[06:53] <bobstro> rjian:  sorry, but i don't use it in ubuntu. smbpasswd is the program though.
[06:54] <Cornellius> linuxboy: It is, but not for that reason :)
[06:54] <bobstro> somebody help rjian with getting access to samba share from windows!
[06:54] <rjian> ah ok thnx bobstro... can anyone help me getting access to samba share from windows??
[06:54] <linuxuser> Cornellius: thats linuxman to you :)
[06:55] <morphix> rjian: whats your issue?
[06:55] <Cornellius> linuxuser: Damn. Well, you get it :P
[06:55] <ninjayeti> I need to find the providing package for a single file.... something like urpmf in mandrake
[06:55] <Geoffrey2> Cornellius, the primary comment I hear about Ubuntu Guide is that it's very much out of date
[06:55] <Cornellius> Geoffrey2: http://ubuntuguide.org ?
[06:55] <rjian> morphix: i want to login the share folder but the windows asking for password??
[06:55] <KrisWood> ok did the mkfs /dev/hdb
[06:55] <KrisWood> now how do I mount it?
[06:55] <ubo> hi
[06:56] <Geoffrey2> !ubuntuguide
[06:56] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is a bad outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com
[06:56] <NickGarvey> KrisWood: mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[06:56] <ic56> KrisWood: edit /etc/fstab and add an entry for it, immitating the existing entries
[06:56] <harry> does banshee also support transfers on mobile phones??
[06:56] <bobstro> morphix:  i think he needs to create a samba user account (smbpasswd) but i don't use samba on ubuntu so can't tell him easy way.
[06:56] <simpkins> How come when i installed KDE That the Screen Resolution prog is gone ? Where do i go to change the resolution ?
[06:56] <nachoWide> can someone help me with installing keepassx?
[06:56] <KrisWood> ic56 thanks
[06:56] <NickGarvey> KrisWood: well make sure /mnt/hdb1 is there first
[06:56] <ubo> hallo je tu slovak buntu
[06:56] <ic56> KrisWood: finally, mount like NickGarvey said.
[06:56] <linuxuser> easyubuntu pretty much handles most things
[06:56] <morphix> rjian: only way you can have a share without a password setup in samba.. u need to use the guest account and make the share a seperate public share
[06:57] <Cornellius> Well, http://ubuntuguide.org is about Dapper and all. Haven't read it entirely, but looked up-to-date
[06:57] <ubo> hallo bois
[06:57] <garryfre> simpkins: Try right-clickign the desktop area. It might be there.
[06:57] <rjian> morphix: how can i do that?
[06:57] <ic56> KrisWood: (oh yes, before mounting, create the mountpoint -- mkdir /mnt/hdb1 or whatever directory you want to mount under)
[06:57] <ScottiNailon> dam my eyes are starting to hurt :(
[06:57] <sjoerd_> ScottiNailon: do you see my messages now :| ?
[06:57] <PwcrLinux> ScottiNailon: Screen too bright? :)
[06:57] <KrisWood> ic56: yeah, I'm doing that now
[06:58] <ScottiNailon> sjoerd_: yes in here I do, but not in prv I dont :(
[06:58] <morphix> rjian: i'll go over some notes.. i cant remember it all off the top of my head
[06:58] <nachoWide> once i use package installer to install keepassx, how do i access the program.  it isn't under the applications list like when I add other programs
[06:58] <sjoerd_> ScottiNailon: Ah ok --...
[06:58] <ScottiNailon> PwcrLinux: no I havent got my glasses :( so I gotts strain the eyes....
[06:58] <croesus> Just got my dad a 20" samsung flatscreen monitor for Father's day
[06:58] <rjian> morphix: ah ok.. do u have reference??? BRB ill chat u again i have to eat lunch...
[06:59] <ScottiNailon> PwcrLinux can you msg my in prv to see if I can see ur msgs? sjoerd_ cant seem to send to me :(
[06:59] <ic56> KrisWood: Assuming the new filesystem wan't meant to be part of the traditional hierarchy, like a /var or /home replacement, I recommend /local/<something descriptive -- like "music" or "big">
[06:59] <morphix> the samba website is the best place to look.
[06:59] <KrisWood> I got an error mounting it
[06:59] <sjoerd_> ScottiNailon: Come #talkingtime
[06:59] <ScottiNailon> k
[06:59] <ScottiNailon> I ma there....
[06:59] <ic56> KrisWood: what's the error?
[06:59] <tuxd00d> Did anyone else loose wireless networking when upgrading to Dapper?   You sure you specified the right one?  Try fsck /dev/<partition> to check
[07:02] <NickGarvey> garryfre: but with uname -r you can do cool things like apt-get install linux-sources-`uname -r`
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > shows it open in the bar at the bottom, than the switch goes away at the bottom and the window never opens
[07:02] <garryfre> NickGarvey Neat! Thanks.
[07:02] <ic56> KrisWood: did you add an entry in /etc/fstab?  What is it?
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > damnit all, how the hell do I get the windows to open!?
[07:03] <darkyoshi372> I have an SD card that isn't formatted, but I can't do anything with it in the "Disks" thingy. How do I format it to FAT?
[07:03] <nachoWide> once i use package installer to install keepassx, how do i access the program?  it isn't under the applications list like when I add other programs.  how can I find it/add it to the applications list?
[07:03] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : haha I hate that, when something works and I don't know why and I know its going to break again
[07:03] <momoru> Anyone here use k9copy?
[07:03] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey,  in this case, firefox froze up, and I can't open ANY windows now. They open at the bottom and close right away.
[07:03] <[Ex0r] > I can't even open xkill
[07:03] <affan> Hi All, How is the weekend? I am trying to install flashplugin-nonfree but its stuck at "Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3)".... any clues? thanks
[07:04] <darkyoshi372> Anyone? How to format SD card that doesn't show up on the desktop because it isn't formatted?
[07:04] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : get into a terminal
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey, - I can't
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > NOTHING will open
[07:04] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : ctrl alt f1
[07:04] <garryfre> affan: If there is a triangle in the window, it might be a closed terminal waiting for a response from a user.
[07:04] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : and then kill -9 firefox
[07:05] <nachoWide> affan: i was just there.  it took about 30 min, but it worked
[07:05] <garryfre> I had that happen tome, an install waiting in a closed terminal for a yes no response when upgrading from breezy to dapper.
[07:05] <nachoWide> affan: but i don't know what to do if it isn't working
[07:06] <affan> nachoWide: 30 minutes?? wow... ok i will wait
[07:06] <KrisWood> ic56: sorry had to stir dinner
[07:06] <jorvis_> I just finished an install and after updating the kernel version is 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic.  I'm want to install the nVidia drivers but the latest I see is 2.6.15-23 ... I need to wait for an update right?
[07:06] <elknof1> hey everybody does someone knows how to fix the issues of x-cd-roast??
[07:06] <Peaceful_> but why is there so many channels for linux and no one for windows?? :D
[07:06] <ic56> KrisWood: ok...
[07:06] <ubuntu_> hola
[07:06] <Cornellius> I <3 SoundKonverter
[07:06] <nachoWide> affan: but I don't know what to say if it doesn't work, and maybe it doesn't need more time.  maybe its frozen, but it took a long time for me
[07:06] <NickGarvey> Peaceful_: ##windows
[07:07] <elknof1> it says that there is no conf. file on root..
[07:07] <Peaceful_> NickGarvey on freenode?
[07:07] <affan> thanks nachoWide
[07:07] <nachoWide> can anyone explain how to use a program after using the package installer?  how do i get it to run?
[07:07] <ic56> KrisWood: ok. so the filesystem was recognized as an ext2/ext3 filesystem ==> /dev/hdb1 is right.
[07:08] <affan> nachoWide: which program did you install?
[07:08] <jorvis_> nachoWide: just enter the program's name
[07:08] <elknof1> or if someone can tell me how to config x-cd-roast
[07:08] <momoru> Anyone awake?
[07:08] <Peaceful_> NickGarvey okay :)
[07:08] <NickGarvey> Peaceful_: yessir
[07:08] <ScottiNailon> Anyone here that knows about using UBUNTU as a graphic Design workstation? with programs such as CorelDraw etc? please MSG me as I have bad eyes and often miss msgs...
[07:08] <nachoWide> keepassx
[07:08] <bobstro> croesus:  check out fwbuilder if you want VERY fine control over your firewall.
[07:08] <affan> nachoWide: if its a GNOME program it might be in the menus. Otherwise you can add it to the menus
[07:08] <Peaceful_> NickGarvey thank you sir lol (i'm a girl)
[07:09] <KrisWood> ic56: you still there?
[07:09] <ic56> KrisWood: that last field in /etc/fstab should be 2. 1 is for the first pass and you should save that for root.
[07:09] <nachoWide> affan:  not in the menu
[07:09] <NickGarvey> Peaceful_: heh sorry, I say yessir to everyone, sister gets a little annoyed
[07:09] <KrisWood> ah ok
[07:09] <affan> nachoWide: can you run it via the terminal?
[07:09] <ic56> KrisWood: otherwise looks good.  What do you mean "isn't formatted"?  If fsck reports no errors, it most certainly *is* formatted.
[07:09] <affan> nachoWide: just enter the name of the program on the command prompt
[07:09] <KrisWood> still gives the same error
[07:09] <KrisWood> even with a 2
[07:10] <ic56> KrisWood: now, ls -ld /mnt/hdb1 and show us the output.  (yes, the 2 wouldn't have any effect here -- it's for future issues)
[07:10] <nachoWide> affan: typing 'keepassx' doesn't work
[07:11] <affan> nachoWide: wat does the program do? is there a website for that software? i am not familiar with the program itself
[07:11] <KrisWood> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-06-17 21:58 /mnt/hdb1
[07:11] <nachoWide> affan:  password storage.  http://keepass.sourceforge.net/
[07:12] <lwizardl> if i wanted to do a complete system backup in ubuntu how would i do this?
[07:12] <affan> nachoWide: does this help? http://keepassx.sourceforge.net/en/howto.html
[07:12] <[Ex0r] > I got into terminal, and couldn't figure out how to get out.
[07:12] <ic56> KrisWood: allll right. are you sure you haven't already mounted somewhere else?  Issue "mount" and look at the output -- any hdb1 entries?  Try "mount |grep hdb1" to be sure you don't miss it when eyeballing.
[07:13] <KrisWood> no hdb entries
[07:13] <KrisWood> even with grep
[07:13] <affan> [Ex0r] : exit
[07:13] <nachoWide> affan: sure, but I just don't understand where the program is supposed to be located
[07:13] <[Ex0r] > affan- it puts me back into x ?
[07:13] <ic56> KrisWood: cut and paste the mount command you are using -- so we can see there are no typos in it.
[07:14] <KrisWood> sudo mount /mnt/hdb1
[07:14] <wulax> [Ex0r] : write startx
[07:14] <[Ex0r] > startx was already started
[07:14] <affan> nachoWide: I believe if its on the PATH it should be visible by typing: which keepassx
[07:14] <[Ex0r] > I used ctrl + alt + f1 from inside x
[07:14] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : heh sorry about that, ctrl alt f7
[07:14] <ScottiNailon> KrisWood would you not follow that with a /hdb or something?
[07:14] <affan> [Ex0r] : try Ctrl + Alt + F7
[07:14] <ScottiNailon> dont you gotta reference the device and then the folder you want to mount it to ?
[07:14] <[Ex0r] > I thought I pressed that, all it did was say tty7
[07:15] <NickGarvey> eek battery gone
[07:15] <ic56> ScottiNailon: KrisWood has created an entry in /etc/fstab which allows mount to lookup the device pathname from the mountpoint and vice versa.
[07:15] <ScottiNailon> nice!
[07:15] <KrisWood> ScottiNailon: when I do that it asks me to specify a filesystem type
[07:16] <wulax> [Ex0r] : try  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:16] <ScottiNailon> i dunno
[07:16] <KrisWood> oh duh
[07:16] <[Ex0r] > nah i'm going to bed right now :)
[07:16] <ScottiNailon> hehe
[07:16] <KrisWood> got it now
[07:16] <[Ex0r] > thanks for the help, guys!
[07:16] <ic56> KrisWood: do tell!
[07:16] <KrisWood> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[07:17] <KrisWood> I looked at the mount help
[07:17] <ScottiNailon> heheh rtfm :) LOL
[07:17] <KrisWood> and I noticed my syntax was wrong
[07:17] <KrisWood> heh
[07:17] <KrisWood> >.<
[07:17] <antox> hi. there is some graphics splash screen overriding ubuntu startup messages... how do I turn it off ?
[07:17] <ic56> KrisWood: your syntax was correct, assuming your /etc/fstab is correct.
[07:17] <KrisWood> ah ok
[07:17] <KrisWood> hmmm it's still not showing up in my file browser
[07:18] <nachoWide> affan: sorry, i'm new to the whole installing process.  i used the DEB release, which is all graphical.  it shows all the directories where the files were unpacked, but i don't see how to run the thing
[07:18] <ic56> KrisWood: perhaps the filesystem type in /etc/fstab doesn't match what ou actually created?  In my mkfs instructions, I didn't specify filesystem type -- I figured I'd let it choose the default.  Do you remember if it decided to make it of type ext2 or ext3?
[07:19] <KrisWood> as far as I know it didn't decide anything
[07:19] <ic56> KrisWood: actually: mount should report its type now.
[07:19] <KrisWood> ok
[07:19] <Sivik> ok, i installed the xorg-....-fglrx and my fps dropped for an Xpress 200M
[07:19] <ic56> KrisWood: run mount, see what it says
[07:19] <b0rg> um if i wanted to get say video drivers for my nivida card what platform wouldi  select? ia64 or ia32? iam noob sorry ;X
[07:19] <KrisWood> ext2
[07:19] <KrisWood> so my /etc/fstab is wrong
[07:19] <ic56> KrisWood: does your /etc/fstab entry for /dev/hdb1 say ext2 ?
[07:19] <KrisWood> it does now ^.^
[07:19] <Sivik> !ati
[07:19] <ubotu> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[07:20] <ic56> KrisWood: ok. umount and mount again.  Does it now show up in your file browser?
[07:20] <garryfre> !nvidia
[07:20] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:20] <Cornellius> Man, soundKonverter is awe-some.
[07:21] <KrisWood> ic56: no it doesn't, but mount works properly now
[07:21] <sloncho> i removed some packages with apt-get remove. but they are still listed with dpkg -l. the line of the list of trhese packages starts with "rc". what is this? how do I completely remove them?
[07:21] <jajaja0> can someone give me a hand installing phpmyadmin with ubuntu 6.06?
[07:21] <ic56> KrisWood: ok, what do we mean by "show up in the file browser"?  Which application and which screen of that application?
[07:22] <KrisWood> ic56: Places > Computer
[07:22] <KrisWood> the first screen that comes up
[07:22] <antox> is it possible to turn off "nice" output while booting Ubuntu? for some reason I want plain-text... %)
[07:23] <garryfre> sloncho: You will have to find the files where those lines are at and comment them out.
[07:23] <jajaja0> i am getting couldnt find package when installing phpmyadmin by typing.... sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[07:23] <KrisWood> antox: yes it's possible, I did that with my server box, but I don't remember how I did it :-/
[07:23] <ic56> KrisWood: Places>computer 1st screen lists the contents of /media plus it has a virtual entry for / (labelled filesystem), though which you can navigate to anywhere else.  You mounted in /mnt, so it's not visible there.
[07:23] <sloncho> garryfe: these lines are the output of dpkg -l
[07:24] <sloncho> garryfre: these lines are the output of dpkg -l
[07:24] <KrisWood> ah ok, so how do I get it to show up there?
[07:24] <KrisWood> change fstab I'm guessing?
[07:24] <ic56> KrisWood: undo all you did and re-do :-)
[07:24] <antox> KrisWood: any keyword for me? does it depend on some package?
[07:25] <KrisWood> antox: I think it was a setting somewhere, no I don't remember it was over a year ago and I think I found it by accident
[07:25] <ic56> KrisWood: yes: umount, mv /mnt/hdb1 /media (relocate the directory), edit /etc/fstab, mount
[07:25] <KrisWood> ic56:  thanks
[07:25] <antox> KrisWood: 10x anyway!
[07:25] <garryfre> say sloncho Yes, they are script files that run on startup, and the output of these scripts from the most recent boot can be seen by doing dpkg. I'm not sure what dkpg -l does.
[07:26] <sponix> does ubuntu 6.06 have reiserfs for a fs install option ?
[07:26] <sloncho> garryfre: I do dpkg -l | grep myth. And the output is some mythtv packages which I deinstalled, but they are still listed, but every line starts with "rc". dpkg -l just lists installed packages
[07:26] <ic56> KrisWood: what do you plan to store on that filesystem?  So many people here are making such poor use of the directory tree hierarchy...
[07:27] <affan> sponix: yes i just installed it with reiserfs
[07:27] <KrisWood> ic56 just data, mostly backups of stuff
[07:27] <garryfre> say sloncho so you don't see specific or complete script files or the source of these lines?
[07:27] <KrisWood> mp3 and video I'd say for the most part
[07:27] <garryfre> sloncho taht is the file names.
[07:28] <ic56> KrisWood: in that case, why don't mount it in /local/backup1 or /local/big1 (ie for big files, like backup dumps or movies)
[07:28] <jajaja-> can someone give me a hand installing phpmyadmin?
[07:28] <KrisWood> because I want it to show up as a drive in the file browser :-/
[07:29] <sponix> affan: normal 6.06 CD ? I hear on Kubuntu its not there, someone said "on DVD" it is
[07:29] <[Ex0r] > jajaja-, - sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[07:29] <Cornellius> I have download the Kubuntu 6.06 CD
[07:29] <KrisWood> I'm a former windows user as of today, I just want GUI metaphors I'm familiar with until I get more comfortable with it
[07:30] <[Ex0r] > jajaja-, - than access http://localhost/phpmyadmin/ and use root with no password to log in. (Be sure to go into privileges and set a password!)
[07:30] <jajaja-> it tells me "couldnt find package phpmyadmin"
[07:30] <timfrost> jajaja-, have you activated the universe repository?  You need that repository to get phpmyadm9in
[07:30] <[Ex0r] > jajaja-, - did you update your sources.list file ?
[07:30] <timfrost> !repos
[07:30] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[07:30] <sloncho> garryfre: this is the output of dpkg -l | grep mis.  http://pastebin.com/715946
[07:30] <[Ex0r] > follow that link, than give it a try
[07:31] <[Ex0r] > night!
[07:31] <jajaja-> ok ill check that first, thank you
[07:31] <affan> sponix: i downloaded from ubuntu website and burnt a CD
[07:31] <KrisWood> ic56: it's mounting into media now but still not showing up in the file browser
[07:31] <Trashcan> i've got a 6.06 system with no MBR. can I use a 5.10 install cd to recover it?
[07:31] <senakey> hey folks, if i want to correctly create my modules/uname/build directory, should i be symlinking that to /usr/include/linux? i mean thats where linux-kernel-headers installed to just seems a bit messy?...
[07:31] <sloncho> garryfre: and these 3 packages are uninstalled. why they are still shown?
[07:31] <affan> i already had Gentoo under reiserfs
[07:31] <KrisWood> it's in /media/hdb1
[07:31] <ic56> KrisWood: Places> Computer is meant for removable media -- cdroms, usb sticks, DVDs, ipods...  This drive is fixed.  It should be part of your regular filesystem tree.  You should create a directory tree inside it containing, eg: mp3/ backup/ tmp/ and then symbolic links from your home directory or your desktop.  ~KrisWood/mp3 should take you to the right directory within that partition.
[07:32] <KrisWood> heh
[07:32] <senakey> sloncho: that is their config files most likely
[07:32] <KrisWood> I hope you understand that you're making my head spin :-/
[07:32] <KrisWood> symlinks are still foreign to me
[07:32] <senakey> sloncho: check the code (ii/etc/etc) and what they mean at the top of the dpkg listning (w/o grep)
[07:32] <krazykit> KrisWood: think of symlinks as really smart shortcuts.
[07:32] <KrisWood> and the filesystem is still kinda wierd
[07:33] <b0rg> i got error with the nivida guide...
[07:33] <ic56> KrisWood: The file browser might be configured to not show fixed disks.  We can fix that.  What's so hard about symlinks?  Never created a shortcut in Windows?!
[07:33] <senakey> sloncho: if u want to remove configs, use dpkg -P <pkgname>
[07:33] <KrisWood> krazykit: actually they're more like the path variable in windows I think
[07:33] <codecaine> clear
[07:33] <garryfre> say sloncho I see what you mean. Some script file is trying to execute those lines.
[07:33] <KrisWood> I dunno, I'm just not used to it, but willing to learn hehe
[07:33] <evader> Hi, I can't seem to ctrl-alt-F1/F2 etc. It won't let me out to a console. Syslog says this: Jun 18 15:26:19 localhost login[5157] : FAILED LOGIN (1) on `tty1' FOR `UNKNOWN', User not known to the underlying authentication module
[07:34] <KrisWood> it's all just a little overwhelming :)
[07:34] <krazykit> KrisWood: no, they're not.  a symlink is pretty much a shortcut.  if you symlink directory foo to bar, bar will seem to have everything in foo.
[07:34] <evader> Any ideas?
[07:34] <KrisWood> krazykit: ok I misunderstood then
[07:34] <garryfre> cmd ReplaceMybraintooStupidToPutASlashBeforeSay.
[07:34] <sponix> what do you all use to burn dvd ISO images ?
[07:34] <ic56> KrisWood: Krazykit is right -- Windows shortcuts are a good analogy for symlinks.  However, they are dumber than Windows shortcuts -- they have fewer features which makes them less discriminatory -- ie they work teh same way on all kinds of files whereas windows shortcuts have different features depending on the kind of file.
[07:35] <Consty> sponix: probably the build in burning app
[07:35] <Consty> sponix: built in burning app I mean
[07:35] <affan> sponix: K3B
[07:35] <b0rg> i get thsi error code when fellowing the nivida guide. Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[07:35] <b0rg> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[07:35] <b0rg> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[07:35] <b0rg> command:
[07:35] <b0rg> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[07:35] <b0rg> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[07:35] <KrisWood> well, for now I can find it by navigating to /media/hdb1 so that's good enough
[07:35] <b0rg> from nv to nvidia.
[07:35] <Dad_> how do I find my MAC address for wireless and ethernet?
[07:35] <sloncho> sanakey, garryfre: thanks. I understand now
[07:35] <KrisWood> now on to drivers :)
[07:35] <evader> Any idea why I can't ctrl-alt-f1/f2 etc?
[07:35] <KrisWood> anyone here use a wacom tablet?
[07:36] <KrisWood> so far it's the only hardware I have that's not auto detected
[07:36] <Trashcan> if i'm rescuing a 6.06 system, will i NEED to use a 6.06 disc or will 5.10 disc work?
[07:36] <senakey> evader: i dont think that is your problem, although you could try checking /etc/inittab: that is what controls your vcs essentially
[07:36] <ic56> KrisWood: ok, have it your way.  To fix the brwoser, start gconf-editor
[07:36] <MistaED> kriswood: yep i have one
[07:36] <senakey> evader: i think you have a PAM/auth issue
[07:36] <affan> Hello all, i tried running "glxgears" on the laptop with NVidia card but its very slow. Is my OpenGL properly configured? how do i know? the screensavers work fine
[07:36] <KrisWood> MistaED: have you tried it with ubuntu? how well does it perform?
[07:36] <wulax> Dad_: ifconfig
[07:36] <Dad_> ty
[07:37] <wulax> in HWaddr
[07:37] <KrisWood> ic56: thanks :)
[07:37] <garryfre> sloncho Welcome.
[07:37] <senakey> hey folks, if i want a modules/`uname -r`/build directory, should i be symlinking that to /usr/include/linux? i mean thats where linux-kernel-headers installed to, but it just seems a bit messy?...
[07:37] <MistaED> kriswood: look up the wiki entries on wiki.ubuntu.com, i needed to make a udev config so it symlinks to /dev/input/wacom (you need to edit your xorg.conf accordingly) but it's all outlined in those instructions
[07:37] <KrisWood> ok thanks :)
[07:38] <MistaED> kriswood: it works very nicely, i have a 6x11 intuos3 and it works, not sure if tilt is working because i'm not sure if the gimp supports that, and the shoulder buttons need this program called "expresskeys" afaik, which wacom are you using?
[07:39] <jrsims> HEY, my last synaptic update killed my Nvidia drivers. I can't get to a web browser. What do I need to do to restore my nvidia driver?
[07:39] <garryfre> say senakey I read that you want to keep the sources separate to minimize risk of overwriting something.
[07:39] <KrisWood> MistaED: I've got the 9x12 intuos3, I'm just praying I'll be able to get photoshop working with cedega or crossover office
[07:40] <KrisWood> ic56: I've got the gconf-editor running but I don't see anything to make fixed disks show up in the file browser
[07:40] <MistaED> kriswood: photoshop7 works awesomely with crossover5
[07:40] <senakey> garryfre: exactly, but default linux-kernel-headers installs to /usr/include/ :-(
[07:40] <MistaED> kriswood: even pressure sensitivity is auto-detcted
[07:40] <codecaine> jrsims install the new kernal modules
[07:40] <jrsims> codecaine: know how?
[07:40] <KrisWood> MistaED: nice :)
[07:40] <ic56> KrisWood: I'm trying to figure out how to do it.
[07:41] <KrisWood> ah ok thanks :)
[07:41] <nekostar> EH
[07:41] <nekostar> er
[07:41] <nekostar> eh
[07:41] <sjoerd_> how do i make ubuntu gnome look like windows xp?
[07:41] <nekostar> what happened to the controls for hte screensavers ?
[07:41] <codecaine> apt-cache search nvidia
[07:41] <nekostar> so i could define what goes on with the gl ones ???
[07:41] <affan> sjoerd_: you mite find some themes on gnome-look.org
[07:41] <codecaine> should be linux-restricted-modules
[07:42] <garryfre> senakey yeah, I always thoguht that was strange. I've read one can just make a separate directory and compile and install the modules from there, and if the make needs the default header files, it seems to be smart enough to find them.
[07:42] <codecaine> and the kernal u using uname -a
[07:43] <jrsims> kernel u?
[07:43] <tonygeorge> hi how to install grub on my computer from an ubuntu live cd?
[07:43] <senakey> garryfre: most makefiles look for it in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build i've noticed
[07:43] <sjoerd_> what do i do when my fonts look really blurry under ubuntu?
[07:44] <garryfre> nekostar: Ohters have noticed that as well , they said installing xscreensaver fixed this, I tried it and it made no difference.
[07:44] <jorvis_> man, ubuntu comes with almost no fun perl modules
[07:45] <nekostar> garryfre, im betting one would have to uninstall one and install the other.
[07:45] <nekostar> ill fix it and let u know
[07:45] <garryfre> senakey Yeah, I've seen search paths built from the contents of arch variables and they end up using the 386 stuff as well.
[07:45] <jrsims> codecaine: sorry, has to step out for a sec. So I just install the restricted kernel modules, nvidia-glx, and that should be it?
[07:45] <tonygeorge> hi anyone knows if its possible to install grub boot loader on my computer from UBUNTU live cd?
[07:45] <garryfre> say nekostar Yeah, ye could be right.
[07:45] <tonygeorge> thanks in advance
[07:46] <Sivik> i can't get audio to work in dapper
[07:46] <garryfre> Yes tonygeorge, however, it will default to putting it on the first drive mbr.
[07:46] <rjian> can anyone help me with samba accessing share folder from windows??
[07:47] <codecaine> yep thats what I had to do
[07:47] <codecaine> just the restricted kernelmodules
[07:47] <codecaine> didn't have to do anything with nvidia-glx
[07:47] <tonygeorge> garryfre, yes that is fine. I cannot boot my linux because had to install windows for a short while to run quicken. my other applications are in ubuntu. :(
[07:48] <Sivik> tonygeorge, did you ever see if there was a problem like quicken for linux?
[07:48] <Sivik> !quicken
[07:48] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Sivik
[07:48] <wulax> tonygeorge: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2689
[07:48] <Sivik> !alsa
[07:48] <ubotu> methinks alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[07:48] <Sivik> !audio
[07:48] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Sivik
[07:48] <rjian> can anyone help me accessing share folder???]
[07:48] <tonygeorge> oh that is possible??? let me check.
[07:48] <justice> for some reasion if I'm away from my computer I lose the network, I can still ping the router but no firefox no e-mail no ssh nothing
[07:48] <wulax> tonygeorge: i haven't tried it myself, but searching the forum often helps
[07:49] <shrump_jimbo> sivik: gnucash?
[07:49] <jrsims> codecaine: sweet. trying now. thanks for the help.
[07:49] <codecaine> np
[07:49] <Sivik> shrump_jimbo, gnucash? no, i'm trying to get audio from a AC'97 sound card and i can't figure it out
[07:49] <senakey> !kernel-headers
[07:49] <ubotu> Not a clue.  Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rjian
[07:49] <garryfre> say tonygeorge. I have seen an option to recover a busted linux install but I'm not sure it was on the live cd or not, and the one I tried, seemed to do a lot of fixing of stuff when I only needed to reinstall grub. I aborted and ended up just reinstalling fresh, it looked so much like a fresh install.
[07:49] <Sivik> shrump_jimbo, does that means its hard?
[07:50] <rjian> !wins
[07:50] <ubotu> rjian: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:50] <justice> any idea why my network dies , works on all other pc's
[07:50] <tonygeorge> wulax, but i ran dual boot before. just this time I installed windows after linux.
[07:50] <ubuntu> i wonder why it takes so damn long to update
[07:50] <garryfre> !build-essentials
[07:50] <ubotu> garryfre: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:50] <shrump_jimbo> have you tried www.linuxant.com?
[07:50] <Locke_> how do i bind a key combination to 3ddesk
[07:50] <tonygeorge> my current problem is that the grub is gone and no way to load the linux installation.
[07:50] <ubuntu> justice:  do you have any errors
[07:50] <ic56> KrisWood: I give up.  I thought I had seen a way to do this but, upon more careful testing, I disovered I know of no way to make fixed drives mounted in /media be displayed in Places> Computer.  Let's ask the channel.
[07:51] <justice> none that I know of
[07:51] <tonygeorge> im done with the windows installation. so if it freezes with windows no problem. :)
[07:51] <KrisWood> heh
[07:51] <KrisWood> well the windows drives automatically showed up there
[07:51] <ic56> How do I make fixed drives mounted in /media be displayed in Places> Computer (aka Nautilus> Computer)
[07:51] <timfrost> !grub
[07:51] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:51] <justice> it works fine for a while then it dies reset then its ok
[07:51] <ubuntu> ic56: huh?
[07:51] <garryfre> yay, for the bot!
[07:51] <Sivik> does anyone have a AC'97 sou7nd card working in ubuntu
[07:52] <Locke_> Sivik, yes, we do
[07:52] <wulax> tonygeorge: ok, as i said, i haven't done it myself so i cant be of much help
[07:52] <tonygeorge> garryfre, i dont want to re install linux. :-(
[07:52] <Sivik> Locke_, how would i go about getting it to work
[07:52] <ubuntu> Sivik: ubuntu will automaticly set it up for you,
[07:52] <Locke_> Sivik, it worked automatically in my roommates
[07:52] <Madpilot> Sivik, yes - mine works automatically
[07:52] <ic56> ubuntu: which part do you need me to clarify?
[07:52] <Sivik> Madpilot, must be nice
[07:52] <Locke_> we installed it on his and it worked no problem
[07:52] <Locke_> what program are you trying to run
[07:52] <Sivik> Locke_, LTS?
[07:52] <tonygeorge> wulax, ok thank you.
[07:52] <Locke_> Sivik, ydes
[07:52] <ubuntu> Sivik: try getting alsa,
[07:52] <KrisWood> Sivik it worked automatically for my wife, but the surround sound won't work
[07:52] <Locke_> i installed breezy on it to start and it worked fine in that too
[07:52] <ubuntu> it should detect it
[07:52] <garryfre> say tonygeorge Yeah, try that link that showed up when timfrost did !Grub it shows how to reinstall and fix grub only last I looked.
[07:52] <Locke_> then we upgraded it
[07:53] <KrisWood> even with alsa the surround doesn't work
[07:53] <Sivik> !alsa
[07:53] <ubotu> [alsa]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[07:53] <tonygeorge> garryfre, ok i am on it.
[07:53] <ubuntu> Sivik: query the bot too much flood
[07:53] <justice> it bafles me, Only this install seems to have a problem
[07:53] <nekostar> hey garryfre
[07:53] <Sivik> ubuntu: what are you talking aobut
[07:53] <nekostar> uninstall gnome-screensaver
[07:53] <nekostar> install xscreensaver
[07:53] <garryfre> Good luck, likely you will suceeed.
[07:53] <ubuntu> Sivik: you will see,
[07:54] <nekostar> then you need to type xscreensaver in the term to get the settings and your golden kthx
[07:54] <ic56> How do I make an ext2 partition mounted under /media be displayed in Places> Computer (aka Nautilus> Computer)?
[07:54] <ubuntu> i wonder why my xchat isn't working, that sucks,
[07:54] <ubuntu> !tell ic56 about mount
[07:54] <rjian> can anyone help me config a share folder??
[07:54] <ubuntu> rjian: try asking
[07:54] <Moodles> is there anyway I can force X to run at1280x1024 without having to reboot?
[07:54] <Sivik> ubuntu, he has about 3 times
[07:55] <tonygeorge> garryfre, i read that link, but does this work if I am doing those instructions from a live cd?
[07:55] <KrisWood> rofl, the ubuntu bot is a riot, I love it :)
[07:55] <ubuntu> i just got here Sivik
[07:55] <Sivik> Moodles, you can restart the x session by pressing ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:55] <Sivik> ubuntu: ok
[07:55] <rjian> how to browse a share folder so that windows can browse the folder??
[07:55] <Sivik> how do i go about getting the sound to work?
[07:56] <ubuntu> rjian: you need to have samba working,
[07:56] <Sivik> AC'97, LTS
[07:56] <ubuntu> !tell Sivik about sound
[07:56] <johan_> or go to a console moodless type init3 after change settings manually type init5
[07:56] <garryfre> I noticed that I did't have to uninstall the gnome screensaver to get at the command line xscreensaver.
[07:56] <Sivik> ubuntu: that didn't work
[07:56] <ubuntu> Sivik: try getting alsa then
[07:56] <rjian> ubuntu: ive already installed it the problem is that when windows browse to ubuntu it ask a password...??
[07:56] <Sivik> ubuntu, alsa is already installed
[07:56] <Sivik> ubuntu, but doesn't seem to be working
[07:57] <ubuntu> rjian: try putting you're username password perhaps?
[07:57] <garryfre> tonygeorge I'm not sure, I remember reading a link about using an install cd to reinstall grub, but it might have been the alternate install cd.
[07:57] <johan_> Sivik what type of soundcard you have you can put settings in modules.conf
[07:58] <tonygeorge> i see. i will try with an installation cd then
[07:58] <tonygeorge> thanks to all you guys. :-) have a good Sunday.
[07:58] <garryfre> necrodearia I am now looking at the links to see if I can find an answer.
[07:59] <StarScream> hey guys, i've got an ubuntu dapper server going as a router. I was wondering if its possible to exectute a script on pppoe connect.
[08:00] <StarScream> i've added one to /etc/ppp/ifup.d/
[08:00] <StarScream> and made it executeable
[08:00] <freddyubuntu> hey guys do any of you know a Calculator program for ubuntu ,which can Draw Graphs ? like graph of y=x^2  ?
[08:00] <StarScream> but it doesn't seem to run on connect
[08:00] <ic56> KrisWood: sorry, man, I'm tired.  Once I remembered to actually mount something under /media for my tests, I realised I actually have the opposite problem from you: I know of now way to *prevent* a mounted drive from being displayed in Places>Computer.  Which amounts to the same thing: there's a config option somewhere and I don't know hwere it is.
[08:00] <StarScream> freddyubuntu: Openoffice has a math program in that can do it
[08:01] <Krhis> Dosn't OO.org2 have somthing like that?
[08:01] <dragoon> yes
[08:01] <dragoon> open office calc
[08:01] <freddyubuntu> aha
[08:01] <StarScream> freddyubuntu: nope its called Math
[08:01] <ubuntu> man this update is taking for ever,
[08:01] <ubuntu> that sucks
[08:01] <Guilt> heh
[08:01] <ubuntu> i hate it,
[08:01] <freddyubuntu> I cant see it in my program list ,...
[08:02] <Guilt> i once ran a breezy to drapper beta 2 update
[08:02] <Krhis> It's hidden.
[08:02] <ubuntu> i wonder why my laptop doesn't work under debian
[08:02] <Guilt> that fscked up my bootpart, gave a kern panic etc
[08:02] <Guilt> :(
[08:02] <freddyubuntu> I checked it
[08:02] <freddyubuntu> i ti snot hidden
[08:02] <B1zz>  whoa that last guy joined 3 times!
[08:02] <freddyubuntu> i think I have to add it
[08:02] <ubuntu> im so us to debian
[08:02] <freddyubuntu> so it can draw any Graph?
[08:02] <Guilt> that was the last time i was on ubuntu
[08:02] <rjian_> can anyone help me with share folder accessing windows to ubuntu?
[08:02] <Krhis> Applications > Accessories > Alacar....
[08:02] <Krhis> Can't miss it.
[08:03] <freddyubuntu> krhis I checked that
[08:03] <freddyubuntu> there is no hidden thing in my office
[08:03] <Krhis> Alacarte Menu Editor*
[08:03] <Krhis> Oh.
[08:03] <freddyubuntu> it is not installed
[08:03] <B1zz> rjian accesing a folder on windows from ubuntu?
[08:03] <freddyubuntu> I see two things in package manager
[08:03] <freddyubuntu> open office draw, and open office math
[08:03] <freddyubuntu> which is for me?
[08:03] <Krhis> Math.
[08:04] <rjian> blzz: windows browsing ubuntu folder??
[08:04] <B1zz> oh
[08:04] <B1zz> idk :-p
[08:04] <ic56> KrisWood: I've had another person have this problem
[08:04] <rjian> blzz: do u know how?
[08:04] <KrisWood> ok now I need some music while I install stuff :)
[08:04] <B1zz> nope
[08:04] <rjian> ah ok...
[08:04] <KrisWood> what's a good mp3 player for ubuntu?
[08:04] <ic56> KrisWood: could try rebooting?  I'd like to see if maybe it will have an effect
[08:04] <ubuntu> xmms KrisWood
[08:04] <garryfre> say necrodearia Oops, mistell
[08:04] <KrisWood> other than VLC
[08:05] <ubuntu> xmms is good
[08:05] <Vandrei_Jaques> KrisWood, i like XMMS :)
[08:05] <rjian> anyone knows samba?? windows browsing ubuntu folder??
[08:05] <Krhis> KrisWood, I use XMMS.
[08:05] <KrisWood> ok :) I'll give that a try
[08:05] <Vandrei_Jaques> KrisWood, i have listening in Listen
[08:05] <ubuntu> i like mp3blaster
[08:05] <johan_> amarok is working too but for kde
[08:05] <ubuntu> is cool two but is a text player thought
[08:05] <ic56> KrisWood: waiting for you to reboot.  Don't be long!
[08:05] <KrisWood> oh! ok
[08:06] <Vandrei_Jaques> ubuntu, i used mp3blaster in SuSE 10.1 hehehe
[08:06] <KrisWood> after I'm done moving my mp3s to the new drive
[08:06] <KrisWood> isn't ubuntu a bot?
[08:06] <afflux> morgen
[08:06] <ic56> KrisWood: how long? I need sleep...
[08:06] <garryfre> Ubunto if I recall
[08:06] <rjian> ubuntu: do u know how will windows browse to ubuntu??
[08:06] <Madpilot> KrisWood, ubotu is the bot
[08:06] <garryfre> er sec that's not right ...
[08:06] <ic56> KrisWood: ubotu is a bot.  ubuntu is, I think, the default username so it could be anybody.
[08:06] <KrisWood> 1 min left
[08:06] <KrisWood> oooh ok my bad
[08:06] <ubuntu> damn i want to installed debian on my laptop but the installation doesn't detect my network card,
[08:07] <KrisWood> here I thought it was just a really clever bot
[08:07] <KrisWood> lol
[08:07] <ubuntu> rjian: not really because all of my pcs i have linux
[08:07] <garryfre> Is it woreless?
[08:07] <ic56> KrisWood: that would have been an AI!
[08:07] <ubuntu> by the way what the heck is windows?
[08:07] <JairunCaloth> I'm having a really wierd issue here...
[08:07] <B1zz> rjian.  Maybe try this?
[08:07] <ubuntu> JairunCaloth: you have you're period?
[08:07] <B1zz> opps
[08:07] <JairunCaloth> Ok, this sounds crazy
[08:07] <JairunCaloth> but here goes
[08:07] <johan_> in some way we are all weird :D
[08:07] <garryfre> er wireless?
[08:07] <rjian> bllz: wat will i try?
[08:08] <ubuntu> garryfre: not really i have an ethernet card, but the driver e100 it doesn't seem to work
[08:08] <KrisWood> ok brb rebooting
[08:08] <JairunCaloth> I wrote a shell script to start World of Warcraft for me, so I didn't have to go to the directory and all that in a terminal and such. However, when I use the shell script, the sound dosn't work.
[08:08] <garryfre> what does ifconfig say?
[08:08] <B1zz> i tried to pm you but not recognizing my name
[08:08] <B1zz> try this link see if it helps http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4138
[08:08] <JairunCaloth> BUT, when I open a terminal and type the exact same commands into the terminal, the sound works fine
[08:09] <ubuntu> garryfre: when i try installing debian?
[08:09] <B1zz> i will brb gonna go into x-chat
[08:09] <garryfre> say ubuntu Oh I see, ye are not getting that far. Hmm.
[08:09] <garryfre> !ubuntulog
[08:09] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, garryfre
[08:09] <ubuntu> ???
[08:10] <ic56> What is controlled by gconf-editor> System> Storage ?
[08:10] <JairunCaloth> Is that not jacked up?
[08:10] <Dad_> I need help getting my wireless to work. I am using an Airport Extreme and Ubuntu laptop. I have had this working b4.
[08:10] <ubuntu> Dad_: where you at?
[08:10] <JairunCaloth> I suppose I should also say, I'm using a launcher on my panel to start the script
[08:10] <Dad_> ubuntu, what do u mean?
[08:10] <ubuntu> you are in an airport?
[08:11] <Dad_> no
[08:11] <Dad_> my house
[08:11] <garryfre> ubuntu the ! followed by a command or keword  often causes the bot here to yield info on the subject. I did not know what ubuntulog is.
[08:11] <ubuntu> okey
[08:11] <afflux> JairunCaloth, what happens if you start the script with console?
[08:11] <ubuntu> well im in my laptop and is working the wireless card didnd't do much
[08:12] <rjian> how can i access swat samba?? wats the default port??
[08:12] <JairunCaloth> sound works when I start the script from the terminal
[08:12] <garryfre> !ndiswrapper
[08:12] <ubotu> I heard ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[08:12] <KrisWood> ok back
[08:12] <ubuntu> well im in my laptop and is working the wireless card didnd't do much
[08:13] <JairunCaloth> afflux: however, I do have the launcher set to run in terminal
[08:13] <ic56> KrisWood: great!  So what's the verdict?
[08:13] <ubuntu> i wonder if debian brings ndiswrapper,
[08:13] <ubuntu> on it is installation
[08:13] <KrisWood> all four drives now show up in the file browser :)
[08:13] <afflux> thats really quite weird.
[08:13] <JairunCaloth> It works every single time
[08:13] <garryfre> Grats KrisWood
[08:13] <ic56> so rebooting *did* fix the problem...
[08:13] <KrisWood> it occurs to me though that a better place for it to show up is the desktop
[08:13] <JairunCaloth> without fail
[08:13] <ic56> KrisWood: so rebooting *did* fix the problem...
[08:13] <KrisWood> yup :) thanks :)
[08:14] <ic56> KrisWood: that's what I told you: make a symlink to your desktop
[08:14] <afflux> btw. World of Warcraft did install an start with wine or what?
[08:14] <ubuntu> damn this laptop is so damn slow, i need a new one,
[08:14] <KrisWood> ok how do I do that?
[08:14] <ubuntu> anyone wants to donate a laptop
[08:14] <ubuntu> ;X
[08:14] <JairunCaloth> afflux; yes I"m running it in wine
[08:14] <JairunCaloth> the script is very simple
[08:14] <garryfre> I think you can dragand drop from places KrisWood
[08:14] <ic56> KrisWood: you wanna move that filesystem out of Places> Computer to /local first?
[08:14] <afflux> nice. thats a point i will show my friends, maybe they will get ubuntu too :D
[08:14] <JairunCaloth> just a cd to the wow directory, then wine wow.exe
[08:15] <KrisWood> ic56: it doesn't matter to me where it's really located, unless it has a negative effect on the system as it is
[08:15] <johan_> mine laptop working fine MHZ 266 pentium II mem 168 mhz
[08:15] <ubuntu> yuck i hate wine, i love cedega better, is way better,
[08:15] <garryfre> How does wine do weith wow?
[08:15] <garryfre> er with
[08:15] <JairunCaloth> world of warcraft sucks ass in cedega
[08:15] <ubuntu> is nothing special still the same,
[08:15] <JairunCaloth> runs beautifly in wine though
[08:15] <ubuntu> JairunCaloth: how about diablo Ii, and all those game
[08:15] <afflux> Diablo II working here
[08:15] <ubuntu> cool,
[08:15] <JairunCaloth> Eh, I don't know to be honest
[08:16] <ubuntu> diablo ii is one of the best, game running in cedega
[08:16] <ubuntu> i love it sure it's nice
[08:16] <KrisWood> Speaking of cedega have any of you tried 3dsmax in it? or Unreal Tournament 2004?
[08:16] <afflux> at me working with wine!
[08:16] <ubuntu> oh cool,
[08:16] <JairunCaloth> I ran Star Wars Galaxies in cedega for a long time, and got better performance with it then I EVER did in windows
[08:16] <ubuntu> but you can still hack cedega, though i found lots of bittorents for it,
[08:16] <JairunCaloth> and it's straight DX9
[08:16] <JairunCaloth> UT 2004 installs nativly in linux
[08:17] <afflux> Unreal Tournament working natevily and with BETTER performance in Ubuntu than in linux
[08:17] <skavenge> unreal tournament has linux support without wine or cedega...
[08:17] <Guilt> "SCO has announced their plans to release a new version of Caldera Linux "
[08:17] <Guilt> :o ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111
[08:17] <KrisWood> ooooh nice
[08:17] <ubuntu> Guilt: and?
[08:17] <KrisWood> how do I do that?
[08:17] <ubuntu> nevery try caldera
[08:17] <ubuntu> *never
[08:17] <Guilt> read the rest of it here: http://www.openlinux.org/releasedetail.cfm?id=21370
[08:17] <KrisWood> is it on the same CD as the windows version?
[08:17] <afflux> JairunCaloth, try following command in starter? wine [path_to_wow] /wow.exe
[08:17] <Guilt> "Caldera has always led the way in providing stable, reliable, tested solutions for our key Linux server markets, and this release of OpenLinux X follows that same course," said Darl McBride, CEO and President, The SCO Group. "Regardless of whether you're a small-to-medium sized business, a corporate developer or a reseller, Caldera OpenLinux X will deliver impressive, capable and powerful choices"
[08:18] <johan_> so SCO is back to real purpose of linux or ????
[08:18] <harry> how do you convert a folder into a zip file??
[08:18] <Guilt> naah. they just need more money
[08:18] <JairunCaloth> Heh... havn't thought of that afflux :-p
[08:18] <afflux> ^^
[08:18] <skavenge> KrisWood; dunno if its on the cd but the linux executables/files are readily available off the web
[08:18] <Guilt> http://www.openlinux.org
[08:18] <harry> how do you convert a folder into a zip file??
[08:18] <Guilt> THAT is a disgrace to Linux
[08:18] <Guilt> harry, man zip
[08:18] <afflux> youre repeating, harry
[08:19] <johan_> make a empty zipfile include the map :P
[08:19] <freddyubuntu> guys I have problem running my open office math , I tired alacatre menu editor, ti is not there... whats the terminal command to run open office Math ?
[08:19] <afflux> harry, you can klick in the filebrowser Natilus with right klick and "Create Archive"
[08:19] <KrisWood> skavenge: sweet I'll have to look that up
[08:19] <KrisWood> how do I make a symlink?
[08:19] <Guilt> oh god, you guys
[08:19] <afflux> ln -s
[08:19] <skavenge> 'ln'
[08:19] <JairunCaloth> KrisWood, I installed UT2004 straight off of the CD into ubuntu. They even have an install script on it :)
[08:19] <garryfre> KrisWood: You mean like creating a shortcut to a file on your desktop?
[08:19] <johan_> use mc thats the most easy if you are not common to command_lines
[08:19] <Guilt> read the LINUX HOWTO; )
[08:19] <Guilt> ;)
[08:20] <KrisWood> garryfre:  yes
[08:20] <afflux> KrisWood, ln -s
[08:20] <ic56> KrisWood: garryfre's suggestion doesn't create a symlink, it creates a GUI thingy that I just learned about.  hang on.
[08:20] <Guilt> Well.. it's nice to hear that this place is quite friendly :)
[08:20] <afflux> freddyubuntu, its oomath
[08:20] <garryfre> Yeah, I just foundabout it msyelf.
[08:21] <KrisWood> well for example hdc1 shows up on my desktop all by itself
[08:21] <KrisWood> I want hdb1 to do the same thing
[08:21] <apache2> soooooooooooo, I'm just dying to know and have been waiting in high anticipation for a lonnng time
[08:21] <apache2> any news on ubuntu for intel-macs?
[08:21] <freddyubuntu> affuix thanks !
[08:21] <garryfre> Its ln -s targetfilepathandname Symlink name if I recall.
[08:21] <freddyubuntu> but why there is no office math in my menu ?
[08:21] <skavenge> whats the next ubuntu release called?
[08:21] <garryfre> I dunno freddyubuntu
[08:22] <afflux> cant see, but at mine there is none too
[08:22] <afflux> *either
[08:22] <apache2> intel-macs anyone?
[08:22] <Knome> skavenge: Edgy Eft
[08:22] <freddyubuntu> anybody can tell me how to draw a simple graph?
[08:22] <JairunCaloth> afflux: no sound period if I use a launcher...
[08:22] <freddyubuntu> like y=x^2
[08:22] <skavenge> Knome; eft? is that an animal still?
[08:22] <garryfre> yeah that's it, I knw it ws an odd hard to remember name.
[08:22] <afflux> if you use the command in console, there is i guess?
[08:22] <Knome> *shrug*
[08:22] <B1zz> is dad still here?
[08:23] <JairunCaloth> yup
[08:23] <freddyubuntu> I think oopen offfice math, is not for drwaing graph
[08:23] <freddyubuntu> but to write forumulas
[08:23] <afflux> 08:06 -  * Dad_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[08:23] <freddyubuntu> am I right?
[08:23] <skavenge> heh they've been on the animal names for so long i figured it'd be rocky raccoon or something
[08:23] <johan_> use tux-paint :p
[08:23] <B1zz> doh!
[08:23] <KrisWood> ok this ln thing is confusing...
[08:23] <B1zz> i had a page for him :-p
[08:24] <afflux> KrisWood, i think it is quite simple. what you want to do?
[08:24] <ic56> KrisWood: ok, the more efficient of the two ways (long term) is the CLI version: ln -s /media/hdb1/music ~/Desktop/music
[08:24] <garryfre> or Pretty Plattypuss
[08:24] <B1zz> there he is
[08:24] <Dad> I need help getting my wireless to work. I am using an Airport Extreme and Ubuntu laptop. I have had this working b4.
[08:24] <JairunCaloth> I know I havn't messed up the commands... because the game runs perfectly fine
[08:24] <KrisWood> it shows up as a folder instead of as a drive
[08:25] <JairunCaloth> other than no sound..
[08:25] <KrisWood> I want it to show up as a drie like hdc1 does
[08:25] <freddyubuntu> I think open office math is just for writing forumals , not to draw graphs ... am I right?
[08:25] <KrisWood> drive*
[08:25] <garryfre> It would be neat to have a naming contest for the next after the next ubuntu version and the winner gets a neat pin or tee shirt with a nice logo and background from ubuntu
[08:25] <ic56> KrisWood: (assuming you already created a `music' subdirectory.  If you just want hdb1 to show up on your desktop, the omit the "music" parts.  Ah, ok.  The GUI method makes it look like a drive.  Do this:
[08:25] <skavenge> garryfre; good idea
[08:25] <garryfre> It would creates some neat interest. Thanks skavenge
[08:25] <Dad> I need help... please
[08:26] <ic56> KrisWood: right click on the item in Computer>Places, select "copy".  Right click on your desktop, select "paste".
[08:26] <skavenge> they should have little stuffed animals they send with every cd haha
[08:26] <garryfre> Ok, dad, thou you pased away I'll try to help.
[08:26] <cat> damn
[08:26] <ic56> KrisWood: that should do it.
[08:26] <garryfre> Not to joke much about it.
[08:26] <freddyubuntu> who was the person who told me I can draw graphs with o.office math ?
[08:26] <KrisWood> ok thanks
[08:26] <rjian> how can i share internet connection using two internet network cards??
[08:26] <KrisWood> it's got a lock floating above it, what does that mean?
[08:27] <JairunCaloth> Ah well... I'm burning precous playing time. I'm off to play WoW
[08:27] <JairunCaloth> from the shell... *.*
[08:27] <afflux> have phun JairunCaloth ;)
[08:27] <KrisWood> and how do I get rid of the symlink?
[08:27] <ic56> KrisWood: it means you dont' have write perm on that.  You're not root and that's an entire filesystem.  Ordinary users don't normally get access to entire filesystems.  You can change that for the particular FS, if you want to..
[08:28] <SD> does anyone know how to stop apt-get updates from hosing my grub menu.lst file?
[08:28] <garryfre> Drag to trash, right click and delete, rm symlinkname either should work.
[08:28] <KrisWood> ic56: I already changed the user and group to mine
[08:28] <JairunCaloth> ahhh shit...
[08:28] <KrisWood> but the lock is still there
[08:28] <ic56> KrisWood: remove symlink (assuming you created it as ~/Desktop/hdb1) rm ~/Desktop/hdb1
[08:28] <freddyubuntu> the person who told me I can draw math graphs with open office was wrong...
[08:29] <rjian> how can i share internet connection using two internet network cards??
[08:29] <ic56> KrisWood: let me check on that lock thingy
[08:29] <KrisWood> ok
[08:29] <Dad> garryfre, u living?
[08:30] <garryfre> Dad Yes.
[08:30] <KrisWood> rjian: you will need to set up a firewall of some sort, I recommend firestarter
[08:30] <JairunCaloth> now the script dosn't do sound at all
[08:30] <JairunCaloth> I started messing around with permisions
[08:30] <KrisWood> rjian: you can also use iptables but it's a pain to set up if you're not familiar with routing
[08:30] <Dad> garryfre, were you going to help me?
[08:30] <KrisWood> how do I remove a symlink? I tried to delete it in nautilus and nothing happened
[08:31] <garryfre> say Dad ask the question to all, better chance too get an answer. If I know I'll try to help.
[08:31] <garryfre> Dad ask the question to all, better chance too get an answer. If I know I'll try to help.
[08:31] <garryfre> Maybe try remove to trash?
[08:32] <KrisWood> garryfre: no change
[08:32] <KrisWood> ok rm worked
[08:32] <ic56> KrisWood: remove symlink (assuming you created it as ~/Desktop/hdb1) rm ~/Desktop/hdb1
[08:32] <rjian> kriswood: i am a direct connected to internet and workstation.. how will i share my internet connection?
[08:33] <Dad> as previously asked... I have a cable router that goes to a wireless router. They seem to bridge just fine with the cable router as the primary. My problem is that one day I was unable to connect my laptop to the wireless.
[08:33] <garryfre> KrisWood my last guess is sudo rm filename wher ethe file name is the name of symlink. Hehe, I see ye got it.
[08:33] <BlueEagle> dad: did you doublecheck !wireless ?
[08:33] <BlueEagle> !wireless
[08:33] <ubotu> hmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[08:34] <KrisWood> rjian: assuming you have two network cards and eth0 is plugged into the internet and eth1 is plugged into your network, you need a firewall of some sort to route data to the correct places. A good one is firestarter. Just install it and your connection sharing will start automagicly.
[08:34] <rjian> ah ok.. wait ill try it thnx
[08:34] <Dad> BlueEagle, I used the cutter thing ( I said it had been working ) for over a month
[08:35] <KrisWood> rjian: My own network has eth1 plugged into the net and eth0 plugged into the lan, so it only required a little extra configuration to work.
[08:35] <garryfre> I wonder if there is a way to change the colors of private messages sent. it is hard to see my outgoing messages. I looked atpreferences colors for xchat, and it din't seem to be user friendly.
[08:35] <sloncho> someone installed mythtv on 6.03?
[08:35] <BlueEagle> garryfre: irssi is better for that imo. :)
[08:36] <garryfre> Thanks, Ill check it out right away.
[08:36] <Geoffrey2> if I were to install something like vmware, and installed Windows inside of it....would that expose me to the various security issues Windows brings with it, or would running it inside Ubuntu shield me from some of those problems?
[08:37] <BlueEagle> anyways I need to head over to work. You all have a pleasant day. :)
[08:38] <ic56> KrisWood: no luck on figuring out how to remove the lock overlay from the disk icon.  Sorry.  ttyl
[08:39] <KrisWood> thanks ic56 :)
[08:39] <konfuzed> hey there a quick question about bios settings.  Should Plug and Play AWARE OS be on or off ??
[08:40] <BlueEagle> garryfre: You will be able to contract all sorts of viruses when running windows in wmware. Especially if you're not careful with how and what you give wmware access to read/write. Ie. if you mount / as read/write in wmware and the directories in /home are writable by the group users you might infect all documents of all users.
[08:40] <ic56> KrisWood: yw!  It's really wierd helping someone try to emulate a Windows environment so closely.  I would have never thought to pursue these things -- I don't think of my system as a collection of drives but as a single directory tree.  The music is one place, the backups elsewhere.
[08:40] <BlueEagle> konfuzed: linux is plug-and-pray aware afaik.
[08:41] <konfuzed> that does not nescsarily mean that it is better to have it on
[08:41] <garryfre> say BlueEagle Hmmm, I don't use vmware at all. Must have been a mistell
[08:41] <Geoffrey2> garryfre, I think that response was intended for me :)
[08:41] <sagarp> for some reason, the themes dont correctly apply..when i select a gtk theme, it looks just like clearlooks
[08:41] <KrisWood> ic56: I'll get used to it eventually :)
[08:42] <BlueEagle> garryfre: it must have been. I guess it was supposed to be directed ag geoffrey2 :)
[08:42] <Frogzoo> konfuzed: it should be on
[08:42] <konfuzed> why thank you much
[08:42] <Lukian> garryfre: did you just attempt to type '/say' like WoW?
[08:42] <garryfre> say BlueEagle Yeah, Geo saw it and got the info. :)
[08:42] <Frogzoo> are the repos down?
[08:43] <KrisWood> ok now to figure out installing my wacom drivers
[08:43] <konfuzed> hey now that the temperature is cool out and in here I should be able to make that install happen.
[08:43] <garryfre> Some have reported timeouts getting packages tonight.
[08:43] <ic56> KrisWood: maybe you will, maybe you won't.  If you setup your system to show disk icons now, you'll continue the habit of thinking that way, so it's more likely you'll stay that way.  Anyway, it's all good -- with Linux, unlike windows, you have the option...
[08:43] <burepe2> Is there a way to convert ogg to mp3 in ubuntu?
[08:43] <Frogzoo> garryfre: yep, guess I'll try later
[08:43] <harry> does firestarter automatically runs when the system starts??/
[08:43] <KrisWood> yup :)
[08:43] <konfuzed> I bought a box at a yard sale for $10 today
[08:43] <garryfre> !wacom
[08:43] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, garryfre
[08:44] <harry> does firestarter automatically runs when the system starts??/
[08:44] <Dad> thanks for helping
[08:44] <Geoffrey2> I realize those deeply immersed in GNU/Linux simply can't understand why anyone would want to sully their computers with anything Windows related...but for people like me slowly making the transition from Windows to Linux, there's simply some programs I want to be able to keep using that require Windows support in some way
[08:44] <garryfre> I would gess it would harry, any firewall worth its bits sets up to start automatically.
[08:45] <konfuzed> pros and cons to everything. AMD Pro-1400+ 20gig HD cd-rw built in sound ether video and a floppy. unfortunately an ecs motherboard
[08:45] <konfuzed> any known issues with ECS motherboards??
[08:45] <garryfre> My eyes are bad, the nickname Dad is easy to miss.
[08:45] <harry> garryfre. so after installing the firestarter i dont need to worry about anything to set it up automatically when the system starts??
[08:46] <konfuzed> I'm gonna give this one to my 5 year old daughter.
[08:46] <garryfre> They track together like two drunken bums
[08:46] <Dad> garryfre, if it will help - what do you want it to be
[08:46] <konfuzed> add the edubuntu theme and presto she is ecstatic
[08:47] <garryfre> I think I just need to pay closer attention. Anyting longer might help, but if you have a question, go ahead and ask it I'll try to watch for it.
[08:48] <garryfre> say harry Sometimes you might have to answer a few questions at first, so it learns what you want to run and what you don't want to get through.
[08:48] <Geoffrey2> !edubuntu
[08:48] <ubotu> methinks edubuntu is the education version of Ubuntu (Ubuntu + educational apps + LTSP). Channel: #edubuntu. Website - http://www.edubuntu.org. Screenshots: http://www.edubuntu.org/Screenshots
[08:48] <rjian> kriswood: ive already installed firestarter how will i config it? or do i have to config it?
[08:48] <garryfre> !LTSP
[08:48] <ubotu> well, ltsp is the Linux Terminal Server Project -  https://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuLTSP/ (for Dapper), https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto (for Breezy), https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPHowTo (pre Breezy).  or  See also http://www.ltsp.org/
[08:49] <Messagner> garryfre, I've asked twice, can you just scroll up?
[08:49] <garryfre> !firestarted
[08:49] <ubotu> garryfre: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:49] <garryfre> !firestarter
[08:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[08:50] <garryfre> Messagner Ok, On the right side of screen should be a vertical scroll bar with a little bar you can drag up, and an up and down pointing triangle at the top and bottom.
[08:51] <odat> hi everyone
[08:51] <garryfre> Messagner Also page up and page down works as well
[08:51] <odat> can someone send me or tell me where to get a  .rar file so i can test something
[08:51] <rjian> can anyone help me how to config firestarter?
[08:51] <Messagner> garryfre, I was telling you to do that
[08:52] <MaddMaxx> Hey
[08:52] <Eleaf> hi
[08:52] <MaddMaxx> Can someone tell them to unban me in #gentoo-ru and #gentoo?
[08:52] <MaddMaxx> I made any ass of mys elf, beting drunk.
[08:52] <MaddMaxx> :(
[08:52] <MaddMaxx> Now I cannot hangout with my russina comrades!
[08:53] <garryfre> Messagner Oh sorry. try ifconfig
[08:53] <MaddMaxx> :'(
[08:53] <reXib> can anyone here help me out with a Lilo/rEFIt problem?
[08:53] <MaddMaxx> it'suscks.
[08:53] <Messagner> garryfre, I did
[08:53] <rjian> can someone help me with share my internet connection using two land cards?
[08:53] <garryfre> mac address
[08:53] <garryfre> !mac address
[08:53] <ubotu> garryfre: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:54] <Consty> anyone know of a really good mud client for linux?  it can be console or gtk based.
[08:54] <odat> can someone send me or tell me where to get a  .rar file so i can test something
[08:54] <sagarp> anyone know why various GTK themes all look like either clearlooks or ubuntulooks?
[08:55] <konfuzed> ah crap this is a dapper DVD not a CD
[08:55] <Geoffrey2> does it make sense to run a firewall on your computer if you're behind a router with a firewall?
[08:55] <Eleaf> lol
[08:55] <rob_p> !mp3
[08:55] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:55] <Eleaf> Geoffrey2, I dunno, could be good.
[08:55] <Dial_tone> why would dapper need to be on dvd? its small
[08:55] <KrisWood> can I restart X without closing my programs?
[08:55] <garryfre> say Messagner if its an external router or modem for dsl or cable, often that info is printed at the bottom of the unit on a label.
[08:55] <Eleaf> lol
[08:55] <KrisWood> or do I need to log out and back in again
[08:55] <Eleaf> KrisWood, not really
[08:56] <KrisWood> ok rebooting brb
[08:56] <Eleaf> do ctrl + alt + backspace to restart x
[08:56] <Eleaf> logout doesn't restart x
[08:56] <Dial_tone> is there a way to get xchat to remember window position when you open it?
[08:56] <MaddMaxx> Can someone tell them to unban me in #gentoo-ru and #gentoo?
[08:56] <garryfre> say Messagner Other times, one can find it by entering the ip address of the device in teh address bar of fthe browser.
[08:56] <Messagner> garryfre, What The Fuck!?!?!?
[08:56] <Messagner> as previously asked... I have a cable router that goes to a wireless router. They seem to bridge just fine with the cable router as the primary. My problem is that one day I was unable to connect my laptop to the wireless.
[08:56] <Messagner> ^exact text^
[08:57] <crimsun> cursing is unlikely to get any additional assistance any faster.
[08:57] <Eleaf> yea
[08:57] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, please join #ubuntu-ops
[08:57] <MaddMaxx> thank you!
[08:57] <MaddMaxx> You're godly!
[08:57] <Eleaf> lol ;p
[08:57] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, Fiedly is awake..
[08:58] <garryfre> Replies containing wtf cause me to forget information you are wishing me to figure out how to find out.
[08:58] <Eleaf> I'm not an op though ;)
[08:58] <crimsun> not to mention I have an extremely short fuse today, so if you feel like being obnoxious, I highly suggest you take it elsewhere.
[08:58] <MaddMaxx> Oh
[08:58] <Lukian> Is garryfre a botr?
[08:58] <Lukian> -r
[08:58] <steveO_> Mark Shuttleworth would condemn you, crimsun.
[08:58] <MaddMaxx> You shoul probably kick me  then, but htat would be mean, so don't.
[08:59] <crimsun> just be civil, and everything will be fine.
[08:59] <Messagner> crimsun, I don't know how that is obnoxious in any way - i just want help and the way garryfre responded confused the crap out of me.
[08:59] <ubynoob> anyone able to tell me how to make mplayer or realplayer my default media player on firefox ?
[08:59] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, huh?
[08:59] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, sorry!
[08:59] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, wrong room
[08:59] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, join #gentoo-ops
[08:59] <Eleaf> lol.
[08:59] <garryfre> Messagner: has a fairly simple question, It eludes me at the moment, sleepy time ye know. He needs to find out what his current mack address is for  his machie. He has a cable router that goes to a wireless router than it just crashed and doesn't work any more.
[08:59] <MaddMaxx> thank you crimson
[08:59] <Eleaf> heh..
[09:00] <MaddMaxx> I joined that eleaf.
[09:00] <MaddMaxx> Thakn you for giving me that hcannel/
[09:00] <garryfre> It was just distracting.
[09:00] <Eleaf> I don't see you there MaddMaxx
[09:00] <MaddMaxx> I left.
[09:00] <MaddMaxx> After asking the mto unban me.
[09:00] <Messagner> garryfre, MAC has nothing to do with it
[09:00] <MaddMaxx> And wtf?
[09:00] <MaddMaxx> I'm actually still ther!
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> I jsur ealized it!
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> haha
[09:01] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, join #gentoo-ops!
[09:01] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, not ubuntu-ops
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> Oh, Iid another ops!
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> holdon
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> ahaha
[09:01] <garryfre> You said mac address. Maybe I misread your query?
[09:01] <Eleaf> lol
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> sorry, Im stpuid.
[09:01] <Eleaf> I said ubuntu-ops first on accident ;p
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> wtf?
[09:01] <KrisWood> ugh, the tablet works now but the calibration is way off and the mouse doesn't move at all :-/
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> Therei s nobody fukcing that.
[09:01] <garryfre> !language
[09:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[09:01] <konfuzed> ok so I just happen to find an official packaged ubuntu version 5.10 with live cd and install cd. how easy is that to upgrade to dapper? maybe it would be better to download a newer dapper cd image and burn it with Nero, then do the install?  any recommednations or thoughts?
[09:02] <MaddMaxx> Sorry for mylanguage
[09:02] <crimsun> konfuzed: you'll download roughly the same amount
[09:02] <Lukian> konfuzed: think about it real hard too :)
[09:02] <konfuzed> once or twice?
[09:02] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, join #ubuntu-ops
[09:02] <Eleaf> lol
[09:02] <Eleaf> omg!!
[09:02] <Eleaf> not there
[09:02] <garryfre> I know you are frustrated, I'm sleepy maybe I'm too sleepy to help you as you deserve.  I can understand it while frustrated, but he's just doing it to be annoying.
[09:04] <konfuzed> is the dist-upgrade to 6.06 easy or a pain in the ass that would be avoided by just downloading the dapper to start with
[09:04] <Eleaf> Madpilot, sorry, I was trying to send him to gentoo-ops.
[09:04] <dragoon> konfuzed: easy
[09:04] <Eleaf> Madpilot, whenever I try and say gentoo, I say ubuntu, I'm addicted!
[09:05] <s|k> how do I install fluxbox on ubuntu?
[09:05] <MaddMaxx> I'm still here.
[09:05] <MaddMaxx> lol
[09:05] <garryfre> I hate that when that happens
[09:05] <dragoon> s|k: apt-get install fluxbox
[09:05] <crimsun> s|k: apt-get install fluxbox (after enabling universe)
[09:05] <konfuzed> oh i may aswell do the dist upgrade path then
[09:05] <garryfre> saying one word when I mean another.
[09:05] <Madpilot> MaddMaxx, last and only warning: watch the language, OK?
[09:05] <s|k> crimsun: will that show up autoatically as a session I can log into?
[09:06] <crimsun> s|k: purportedly, but as I haven't installed it under Dapper, I can't confirm.
[09:06] <Eleaf> Madpilot, is it night where you are?
[09:06] <KrisWood> does anyone know how I can calibrate my tablet for use with ubuntu?
[09:06] <Madpilot> Eleaf, yes, just past midnight - why?
[09:06] <MaddMaxx> I didn't do any bad lnauge.
[09:06] <s|k> crimsun: I'll try it, thanks :)
[09:06] <s|k> dragoon: thank you too :)
[09:06] <Geoffrey2> konfuzed, I personally subscribe to the KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) principle...to me, installing an operating system just so I can install an update on top of it seems a lot more complicated than just installing the up-to-date system from scratch
[09:06] <kevin> MaddMaxx, you did
[09:07] <crimsun> Messagner: is the issue still occurring?
[09:07] <Messagner> crimsun, yea
[09:07] <Eleaf> Madpilot, where do you live?
[09:07] <Madpilot> Eleaf, western Canada - BC
[09:07] <crimsun> Messagner: I presume you've verified that you're using the appropriate credentials, etc.?
[09:08] <garryfre> Messagner: Ok, you asked to find the mac address for your system. That's not the same as a macintosh, its an anachronysm. I've forgotten what mac stands for but it is a network thing rather like an IP address. I think every network card made has a built in unique mac address.
[09:08] <Messagner> yea
[09:08] <Eleaf> Madpilot, oh cool, where in BC?
[09:08] <Lukian> can someone ban garryfre? It's failing it's job as a useful bot (the only kind?)
[09:08] <Messagner> garryfre, I want my wireless working, I don't care what MAC it has anymore - that was something else
[09:08] <Madpilot> Eleaf, Victoria
[09:08] <crimsun> Messagner: can you verify on the AP side that the AP is actually seeing the requests? (hopefully you've got a wired LAN connection to the wifi "router", too...)
[09:08] <garryfre> LoL
[09:09] <Madpilot> garryfre, are you a bot?
[09:09] <Lukian> It doesn't give me a version reply
[09:09] <Messagner> crimsun, sorry u lost me
[09:10] <garryfre> Madpilot Nope, I'm garry freemyer, I live in paradise CA
[09:10] <crimsun> Messagner: some APs have a management interface accessible via HTTP. Does your AP have wired ethernet (802.11) ports, too?
[09:10] <crimsun> sorry, 802.3
[09:10] <Eleaf> Madpilot, cool, I've been there a few times.  My grandma/aunts live in Vancouver..
[09:10] <Messagner> yea
[09:11] <Lukian> garryfre: what client are you using?
[09:11] <Eleaf> Victoria is a nice town..
[09:11] <garryfre> xchat
[09:11] <Madpilot> garryfre, just checking, after Lukian's complaint :)
[09:11] <Madpilot> Eleaf, it is - but we should move to -offtopic if you just want to chat
[09:11] <garryfre> say Madpilot hehe.
[09:11] <Messagner> Airport Extreme uses a utility to edit configuration, no web interface, but I can connect to it from here
[09:11] <crimsun> Messagner: can you use the 802.3 ports to check if the AP is actually seeing the association/authorisation requests?
[09:11] <Lukian> Madpilot: sorry about that, it seemed to speak pretty damned close to a bot :/
[09:11] <Lukian> (and it still could be)
[09:11] <Eleaf> Madpilot, I"m there... lol
[09:12] <garryfre> Yeah, I used to live in Vancouver. The papermills really stunk at the time, made the air brown and felt like living on mars.
[09:12] <Messagner> crimsun, I have no idea, I don't know what AP is though
[09:12] <B1zz> nice!
[09:12] <B1zz> mars
[09:12] <Lukian> Madpilot: perhaps it would fall under the category of 'trolling' ? :D
[09:12] <Eleaf> ?
[09:12] <garryfre> Messagner: I found your question I need help getting my wireless to work. I am using an Airport Extreme and Ubuntu laptop. I have had this working b4. I don' tknow the answer. I gatehr that it stopped working after a crash?
[09:13] <Madpilot> Lukian, what? Getting you confused so you think a user is a bot counts as trolling?
[09:13] <Madpilot> :)
[09:13] <Lukian> Madpilot: yes indeed
[09:13] <Lukian> Madpilot: It's replies are obscurely related, possibly pattern matching
[09:13] <MaddMaxx> hrmm
[09:13] <garryfre> I think it is amusing, that I've been staring at the bot's answers so long, I'm beginning to sound like it. Doh!
[09:14] <B1zz> heheh
[09:14] <Madpilot> Lukian, that hardly counts as trolling - and if garryfre is a bot, he/it is making more sense than some people manage to here ;)
[09:14] <Lukian> Madpilot: lmao, good point
[09:14] <MaddMaxx> God save the queen! ^_^
[09:14] <Lukian> ok, perhaps it is more beneficial than most of the users in here :)
[09:15] <amk-sep> i cnat play mpeg files in totem i got the messge: ** Message: don't know how to handle video/mpeg
[09:15] <garryfre> Its probably the Klonopin I"m taking for incurable insomnia. some times it take a few weeks to take effect. j/k
[09:15] <Dial_tone> make sure you have the right plugins installed
[09:15] <crimsun> Messagner: "AP" is "access point"
[09:15] <kinection> hello, has anybody got xgl/compiz to work in here? I'm wondering how i would know if compiz was running or not. if i could `ps aux` and see it
[09:15] <Messagner> ok
[09:16] <amk-sep> DIAL_tone: how can i do that?
[09:16] <Messagner> crimsun, I started running some commands from CL and it seems to have started working
[09:16] <Ackeubu_> hey i need a piano synth is there a app for that?
[09:16] <crimsun> Messagner: ok
[09:17] <amk-sep> what is needed to play mpeg in totem
[09:17] <garryfre> There is an easybuntu script I tried it yesterday and it installed all kinds of missing codecs and I was able to play my videos, mpegs, and mp3 stuff. A google of easybuntu shows a list of places to get it. Be sure to get one that works for dapper or breezy if you have that.
[09:17] <Lukian> kinection: #ubuntu-xgl, and yes, it would be compiz.real
[09:17] <odat> can someone send me or tell me where to get a  .rar file so i can test something
[09:17] <Messagner> crimsun, I lied, it's showing 100% signal, but I'm getting no internet
[09:17] <Lukian> garryfre: do you have a database of answers at your disposal?
[09:17] <kinection> Lukian: thanks. because that's not showing up :(. i'll go there now
[09:17] <B1zz> odat read your pms
[09:17] <bud> does anybody know how to add irc as a protocol in firefox
[09:17] <B1zz> pm's*
[09:17] <tb77> amk-sep: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:17] <amk-sep> garryfre:  thx
[09:18] <tb77> odat: try google
[09:18] <garryfre> Hmm, no.. Welcome Amk.
[09:18] <amk-sep> ok ill try
[09:18] <Lukian> :D
[09:18] <crimsun> Messagner: you said it's an "Airport Extreme"?
[09:18] <odat> tb77, i did can't find any
[09:18] <Lukian> thx garryfre
[09:18] <Messagner> crimsun, yea
[09:18] <crimsun> Messagner: I'm not familiar w/ the innards of that AP, but have you looked on the wiki and forums?
[09:18] <Eleaf> I love airport extreme
[09:19] <Eleaf> crimsun, it's a mac
[09:19] <odat> B1zz, why you have one to send?
[09:19] <tb77> odat: search "test : rar" first link
[09:19] <Eleaf> crimsun, airport extreme is apple's wireless card.
[09:19] <B1zz> yes i can send one
[09:19] <Messagner> crimsun, I can't navigate those ery well, but I haven't found anything close
[09:19] <garryfre> say Lukian Hmm, I don't remember doing anything helpful but who knows I'm getting pretty rummy.
[09:19] <Lukian> garryfre: could you please stop saying 'say' or at least add a colon or comma?
[09:20] <Eleaf> say.. lol
[09:20] <Eleaf> say; Lukian I think it's cool.
[09:20] <garryfre> You mean I keep forgeting to put the /say instead of say. Sorry bout that I keep doing it and its probably more annoying to me than it is to you. I hate it when I keep doing the same mistake.
[09:21] <B1zz> did you get that odat?
[09:21] <Eleaf> say, B1zz how are you?
[09:21] <odat> yeah thanx guys
[09:21] <garryfre> Blzz how are you?
[09:21] <B1zz> im fine....
[09:21] <Lukian> garryfre: what's your first language?
[09:21] <garryfre> hehe
[09:21] <garryfre> English.
[09:22] <garryfre> Maybe I have been reading too much star trek about vulcans.
[09:22] <Consty> Anyone know of a really good MUD client for console or GTK?
[09:22] <efox_> what's a good antivirus and firewall to get ?
[09:22] <kevin> That is my only language lol...... That is why I would make a poor support person, one language and too many other panguages out there to make me effective
[09:22] <garryfre> firestarter
[09:22] <Madpilot> efox_, you dont' really need either for Ubuntu
[09:22] <B1zz> does it seem weird that Eleaf and garryfre both asked me same question prettymuch at same time?
[09:23] <gnomefreak> no need for antivirus nmor firewall for a normal user
[09:23] <SurfnKid> is there a way to increase the font in elinks?
[09:23] <efox_> Madpilot: i know, since mose virus are intented for windows
[09:23] <Lukian> blzz: yes, we are trying to figure out if it passes the turing test
[09:23] <Eleaf> say, that is kinda funky B1zz
[09:23] <efox_> however, i would like to have a firewall
[09:23] <Madpilot> efox_, exactly
[09:23] <garryfre> I did it deliberately for fun as I had been accused of being a bot.
[09:23] <Eleaf> lol
[09:23] <Madpilot> efox_, Firestarter is in Universe repo
[09:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell efox_ -about firewall
[09:23] <garryfre> Not that I minded.
[09:23] <Eleaf> garryfre,
[09:23] <Eleaf> universe repo?
[09:23] <Eleaf> OH UNIVERSE
[09:24] <gnomefreak> garryfre: jopin #ubuntu-offtopic for general convo
[09:24] <gnomefreak> s/jopin/join
[09:25] <q_a_z_steve> what does torsmo do?
[09:25] <garryfre> Sigh, first I stay on topic and get a bit terse in my replies and am accuse of being abot, then when I start acting more flexible and less stilted I'm counceled for being off topic. Yeesh, I just can't win, I'm damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't.
[09:26] <garryfre> !torsmo
[09:26] <ubotu> garryfre: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:26] <q_a_z_steve> !torsmo
[09:26] <Messagner> crimsun, if I had to guess, I would guess that my wireless s trying to act as a bridge only, that seems to be causing issues, but I changed the rate to 11M and my WEP from 40 to 128 and i think that fixed it. But my laptop is about to die and will probably not work after I restart. Not only that, but I still can't ping one computer on wireless from one computer of wired or vise versa, so the wireless definetly isn't acting like a bridge
[09:27] <efox_> oh, another thing ive been trying to figure out, is..how do you open files in terminal ?
[09:27] <efox_> like an openoffice document
[09:27] <johnZay> Hi.. My  whole files system keeps becoming read-only all of a sudden and then works when I reboot. Anyone know what could be wrong?
[09:27] <fr500> hello
[09:27] <crimsun> Messagner: well, I do know that the native bcm43xx driver has issues
[09:27] <efox_> i tried so many different commands, but nothing seems to open them
[09:27] <garryfre> I spent five hours today fighting a wireless modem and router, on a lap top. got nothing but sore eyes reading horribly writting instructions and help files.
[09:27] <crimsun> Messagner: I'm not entirely sure that's relevant to your use case, however
[09:27] <efox_> crimsun: sweet...join the club
[09:27] <fr500> is there a way to make epilicious work in dapper?
[09:27] <Messagner> crimsun, actually, I can ping my wireless, but not my desktop
[09:28] <garryfre> So, I understand how that felt. I felt like using the router for a frisbee.
[09:28] <sacrum> hey, folks.  I'm interested in installing ubuntu on my iMac G5.  I can't tell from the hardware list and from Google searches whether the G5 architecture is supported or not.  Anyone have any idea what's going on in that department?
[09:28] <Madpilot> efox_, try 'man openoffice' - I think that'll work to get you the manual file for OOo
[09:28] <efox_> Madpilot: you are my linux guru...thanks
[09:28] <Madpilot> efox_, no, I just fake it, and answer the easy questions ;)
[09:29] <johnZay> Hi.. My  whole files system keeps becoming read-only all of a sudden and then works when I reboot. Anyone know what could be wrong?
[09:29] <garryfre> I'd just back up your mac stuff and try it. It would be intresting to see if it works o a Mac G5.
[09:29] <garryfre> Is it ntfs?
[09:29] <sacrum> garryfre: That is not the answer I was looking for. ;)
[09:29] <johnZay> nope... its full on eraed by the xubuntu installer
[09:30] <johnZay> *erased
[09:30] <stephan__> anyone able to get azurues to work with dapper
[09:30] <Messagner> crimsun, thanks for helping, I think the real problem is that Apple suck because they don't believe in norms, simplicity, or anything that works
[09:30] <sacrum> garryfre: I'm not sure if you're talking to me or johnZay re: the ntfs bit, but I'm pretty sure Tiger uses ext3
[09:30] <garryfre> Sacrum ok, Ill google for it. Do you wish to try installing dapper or breezy?
[09:31] <sacrum> garry: dapper.  I'd tried googling myself and was getting conflicting information on whether or not it worked, and I couldn't tell by the way things were dated whether or not the problems that were happening to these people were problems that were addressed or not.
[09:32] <sacrum> er, I've got one too many "or not"s up there, but I think you know what I mean.
[09:33] <fr500> johnZay: messed up hd
[09:33] <mattsches> quit
[09:33] <fr500> johnZay: do you see hdd errors on dmesg?
[09:33] <wickedpuppy> stephan__, i am using azureus now
[09:33] <Locke_> w00t
[09:33] <Locke_> i got Xgl in ubuntu 6.06 now :)
[09:33] <Hajuu> hey! how does one install a new font?
[09:33] <Hajuu> :D
[09:34] <transgress> how unstable is XGL at this point?
[09:34] <stephan__> wickedpup, with dapper....how so.... mine always freezes
[09:34] <Locke_> seems ok so far
[09:34] <wickedpuppy> stephan__, azureus is java app ... nothing to do with OS ... it runs on the JVM
[09:34] <transgress> wickedpuppy: you using the binary from the repos or are you using the .tar.gz one?
[09:34] <Madpilot> Hajuu, stick it in ~/.fonts is the easiest way to do it
[09:34] <wickedpuppy> transgress, i always get it from the sourceforge
[09:34] <kevin> wickedpuppy, I use it too, slows things down cos of Java but I do use it
[09:34] <gnomefreak> transgress: pretty unstable IMHO and last i heard they are looking at summer of 2007 before it becomes stable
[09:35] <garryfre> sacrum: Yeah, I looked using makc g5 ubuntu dapper and got a lot of bug reports. Sounds risky, like it won't work. One said it didn't like the video card on the mac g5, they all referrred to imac g5. Is that the same as a mac g5?
[09:35] <transgress> gnomefreak: okay.  i was just wondering.  i don't have a great urge to use it.
[09:35] <stephan__> wickedpup, ok will i could get it to work just fine in 5.1 but in dapper its not working
[09:35] <transgress> stephan__: works for me too... i just downloaded it and am using blackdown java
[09:35] <stephan__> wickedpup, it freezes up and wont load...i think its something to do with the java like u said
[09:36] <wickedpuppy> stephan__, download it from sourceforge and try ?
[09:36] <transgress> stephan__: if you are using the sf one... try using the apt one... if you don't mind downloading mozilla-browser
[09:36] <transgress> i mind downloading mozilla-browser myself... hence i use sourceforge's
[09:37] <fr500> stephan__: the latest azureus build seems screwed
[09:37] <fr500> hangs for me too
[09:37] <wickedpuppy> agreed with fr500
[09:37] <sacrum> garryfre: Basically.  There's two different flavors of G5 out there -- one's a dual-CPU job that sits in a regular box like a PC, and the other's this gorgeous but temperamental flat-panel single unit, single processor thing.  The latter's usually what people mean when they say "iMac G5"
[09:37] <wickedpuppy> try with the previous version ....
[09:37] <stephan__> hmm...im checking my java right now
[09:37] <johnZay> What would happen if I mounted an ext3 partition as ext2?
[09:37] <KrisWood> hi everyone
[09:37] <mattsches> hi everyone, I've got problems with my dvdrom drive ... everytime i insert a cd/dvd, ubuntu freezes ... also doesn't boot up when a disc is in the drive
[09:37] <transgress> hey gnomefreak you seem knowledgable... do you use gnome-deskbar?
[09:37] <KrisWood> I am trying to get my intuos3 tablet working properly
[09:38] <stephan__> (/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.
[09:38] <gnomefreak> transgress: i used to
[09:38] <fr500> johnZay: so?? did it work
[09:38] <stephan__> thats the only one i have
[09:38] <garryfre> sacrum Well , good luck with whatever you try.
[09:38] <sacrum> garryfre: Thank you so much for trying to help me out.  I'll probably stay away from ubuntu until braver souls have traveled down these roads ahead of me :)
[09:38] <KrisWood> my stylus works but the mouse doesn't move, and the pad buttons don't do anything
[09:38] <transgress> gnomefreak: not anymore?  i was wanting help on configuring it.  the shortcut to switch to it is <alt>s by default, do you happen to know what it is to make it alt+space?
[09:38] <sacrum> Thanks!  And, again, thanks for your help.
[09:38] <johnZay> ooh sorry i didnt see yer messages... Ii'll let ya know in a few mins
[09:38] <fr500> sacrum: what was your issue just for curiosity
[09:38] <gnomefreak> transgress: no udev is messed up on this pc and it removed gnome
[09:38] <johnZay> gotota hook it up to a monitor
[09:39] <garryfre> sacrum yeah, braver users can play the guinea pigs.
[09:39] <mattsches> could it be a problem of hald or dbus? 'cause that's where the boot process stops
[09:39] <KrisWood> also I'd like to be able to configure my second button on the sylus to be middle mouse, does anyone have any ideas how to configure a tablet for ubuntu?
[09:39] <sacrum> fr500, I'm trying to figure out if ubuntu will work on my iMac G5 before I get all rambo and install it.
[09:39] <fr500> sacrum: rambo way is cool
[09:40] <Hajuu> hey hey! how does one install a new font?
[09:40] <gnomefreak> sacrum: yes the ppc version should run fine on a g5
[09:40] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Hajuu -about fonts
[09:40] <fr500> transgress: problems with deskbar?
[09:40] <mattsches> the drive does work properly when i boot knoppix
[09:41] <sacrum> fr500, if I only had the spare time to be that brave, I'd try it.
[09:41] <fr500> hehe
[09:41] <transgress> fr500: i just want to know how to make the shortcut to switch to it <Alt><Space> instead of <Alt>s
[09:41] <garryfre> Hey, sacrum You could try the live cd as a test to see if it has a chance of working.
[09:41] <sacrum> gnomefreak, the reason I'd asked was because it wasn't listed on the support page and because, when I'd googled it, I found all sorts of scary scariness.
[09:41] <sacrum> oo!  I forgot all about live cds.  that's a good idea.
[09:42] <fr500> transgress: there is an option in properties
[09:42] <garryfre> mea culpa, I forgot it too.
[09:42] <gnomefreak> sacrum: assuming when you say g5 that would be the g5 processer (cant remember when they changed to intel)
[09:42] <transgress>   fr500 i know, but i don't know what to put.  it doesn't give choices, it just lets you type... and i've tried <Alt><Space>
[09:42] <sacrum> gnomefreak, yeah.
[09:42] <fr500> oh
[09:43] <transgress> fr500: and <Ctrl><Space> since alt+space seems to open the menu bars on gnome windows
[09:43] <gnomefreak> sacrum: works fine on a g processers
[09:43] <sacrum> (They changed to intel about a month after I plunked down the money for this damned thing, after viciously denying rumor after rumor about it.  I was NOT happy.  But that's another story.)
[09:43] <KrisWood> sorry to spam the same question over and over but could  anyone help me configure my intuos3 tablet for use in ubuntu?
[09:43] <gnomefreak> sacrum: they only real lack of support for ppc and 64bit is the non-free things
[09:43] <fr500> KrisWood: didi you look at the wiki?
[09:43] <skavenge> so new imacs run the x86 version instead of ppc now?
[09:44] <garryfre> I think they changed to intels about May 2005, the month I lost my programming job to a hostile takeover. ;-/
[09:44] <gnomefreak> skavenge: should but that im not sure about
[09:44] <skavenge> interesting
[09:44] <sacrum> garry: ouch :(
[09:44] <stephan__> /usr/bin/azureus: line 34: exec: java: not found
[09:44] <ZDUX> can I ask for some help installing openssh-server I'm getting an error message
[09:44] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: and the error might be?
[09:44] <garryfre> yep
[09:44] <stephan__> /usr/bin/azureus: line 34: exec: java: not found ; i get the when running azuerurs
[09:45] <ZDUX> Error message installing openssh-server:   Depends: openssh-client (=1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4.1) but 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 is to be installed
[09:45] <sacrum> garry: I have a ghastly code-monkey job writing COBOL (I do wish I were kidding) code for an insurance company.  It's absolutely mind-numbing.
[09:45] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: what version of ubuntu?
[09:45] <transgress> fr500: any clue what it would be besides <Space> ?
[09:45] <garryfre> Yep, Cobil, is like the chinese water drop on the forehead torture.
[09:45] <garryfre> er cobol
[09:45] <KrisWood> fr500: yes but it didn't help much, I'm reading a post on the forums now about it but it doesn't cover my specific issue of the mouse not working, or configuring specific buttons
[09:45] <fr500> just press the spacebar
[09:46] <sacrum> The main reason I started considering the *nix stuff was just to try to get some kind of reasonable skill set under my belt so I don't have to spend the rest of my life coding on a mainframe.
[09:46] <fr500> KrisWood: i have on but i havent used it yet
[09:46] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: also are you mixing your repos? either way please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[09:46] <garryfre> Or spendng thousands lining bill gate's pockets with licensing fees.
[09:46] <sacrum> For real!
[09:47] <skavenge> there's something to be said for some intellectual stimulation working on your OS versus being spoonfed what the 'average user' needs as well
[09:47] <ZDUX> sorry I'm pretty new to linux, I don't know the command to get the version number. I think it is version 6.06
[09:47] <sacrum> I imagine the licensing bits will only get progressively nastier with time, too.
[09:48] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: lsb_release -a   is the command
[09:48] <Xorph> ZDUX, uname -r i think
[09:48] <gnomefreak> Xorph: i didnt ask for the kernel
[09:48] <ZDUX> Thanks,,  version 6.06 LTS
[09:48] <stephan__> ok i selected a new java and now it just freezes
[09:49] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: ok type the command i give you as i type it
[09:49] <garryfre> My next job was debugging an app that made reports froma  database. The owner was too parnanoid to give me the passwords for the database, so I could not test, or run the  program, and they would not provide sample data. Well, sleepy time for me. Gnight all.
[09:49] <fr500> stephan__: i meant, the azureus build is broken
[09:49] <fr500> java is fine
[09:49] <ZDUX> uname: 2.6.15-25-386
[09:49] <sacrum> garryfre, ha!  Oh, that sounds like a lovely job.
[09:49] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"    please type that as i did
[09:49] <sacrum> Good night!  And again, thanks for the help!
[09:49] <stephan__> fr500, so what shouldi do then
[09:49] <stephan__> fr500, get an older version?
[09:49] <fr500> get another azures build
[09:49] <garryfre> sacrumn hehe, yep. sure ws. Welcome, thanks for chatting.
[09:50] <sacrum> Okay.  One more question about all this business and I'm out of here myself for a while.
[09:50] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: let me know when the file opens
[09:50] <ZDUX> it is opened
[09:51] <gnomefreak> ok hold onto it for a min
[09:51] <transgress> fr500: yeah didn't work.
[09:51] <sacrum> How, exactly, does one get involved with . . . participating with open source programming?  I can code but I'm new to all this new-fangled unix business -- like I said, I spend eight hours a day staring at a little green terminal.
[09:51] <transgress> anyone know how to change the hotkey for deskbar to <ctrl><space> or <alt><space>?
[09:51] <ZDUX> I changed the sources file, what I am trying to do is intall mythtv. I followed some directions I found online. These prompted me to wget a new sources list,, I have the old one backed up
[09:51] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: can you paste the contents of that file onto this webpage and hit send please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:51] <KrisWood> is there a more full featured audio/video player for ubuntu? something more like windows media player, winamp, or itunes?
[09:52] <skavenge> xmms, beep player
[09:52] <fr500> KrisWood: amarok? i think
[09:52] <ZDUX> gnomefreak, thanks
[09:52] <fr500> transgress: though luck
[09:52] <KrisWood> I'm using xmms right now it's not really as advanced as I'd like
[09:52] <KrisWood> I'll try amarok
[09:52] <KrisWood> and beep player too
[09:52] <kevin> KrisWood, I use Mplayer
[09:52] <transgress> fr500: taha found it
[09:53] <Xorph> may try vlc
[09:53] <ZDUX> gnomefreak: I sent it
[09:53] <skavenge> i prefer beep myself, its alot like xmms but a bit more advanced/cleaner looking, but that depends on the skin as well obviously
[09:53] <sacrum> hmm, okay.  time for bed.
[09:53] <sacrum> good night, folks.  thanks for the help!
[09:53] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: can i have the page it brought you to?
[09:53] <transgress> victory
[09:53] <KrisWood> Xorph: I hate vlc, it's almost as bad as mpc
[09:54] <ZDUX> gnomefreak: the url is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15888
[09:54] <transgress> KrisWood: there is something wrong with you.
[09:54] <KrisWood> Why? :-/
[09:54] <KrisWood> I like feature creep in an audio/video player that's all
[09:54] <KrisWood> :p
[09:54] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: ok give me a mininute i have to do something real fast adn than ill look at it
[09:54] <Gradius9> hello
[09:55] <KrisWood> Well I checked itunes, no linux port :-(
[09:55] <ZDUX> gnomefreak: thanks a bunch!
[09:55] <KrisWood> what's the pakage name for beep player?
[09:55] <Locke_> holy shit
[09:55] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: remove the word breezy from all the repos and put the word dapper in its place than hit save than close than type sudo apt-get -update in a trerminal
[09:55] <gnomefreak> now i brb
[09:55] <Locke_> i can play ff5j in zsnes while running Xgl, and i can move the window wobbly like while controlling the game with my gamepad
[09:56] <rjian> i need help sharing my internet connection can anyone help me?
[09:56] <transgress> rjian: purchase a router
[09:56] <Gradius9> Running an headless machine, with ubuntu... did all the updates, but now I can not access it via vnc (only ssh), maybe there are some dialogs that stops the flow of the start up?
[09:56] <rjian> transgress: im using 2 internet card.. do u know how to config share my connection?
[09:56] <Locke_> hell i can hold the window while rotating desktops while playing the game
[09:57] <Locke_> not that i could actually do anyitng with that unless i had 3 hands
[09:57] <Locke_> but
[09:57] <ZDUX> gnomefreak: does this include breezy-security to dapper-security  ?
[09:57] <Locke_> the capability is there
[09:57] <redblades> Hi, can someone tell me of a way to backup my DVDs to my hardrive?
[09:57] <kevin> redblades, I had a friend show me that with transcode
[09:58] <fr500> KrisWood: there is a XUL based player similar to itunes
[09:58] <fr500> probably works in linux
[09:58] <kevin> Happy Fathers day to those is Noth America
[09:58] <fr500> banshee plays video but it's not video ready yet as for interface
[09:59] <mheath> kevin, those in North America are mostly too asleep to appreciate the remark :)
[09:59] <fr500> Gradius9: ask a question :p
[09:59] <KrisWood> fr500: thanks :)
[09:59] <kevin> heh mheath I am there
[09:59] <rjian> im using 2 network card how can i share my internet connection??
[09:59] <Gradius9> fr500: ?
[09:59] <fr500> KrisWood: songbirdnest
[10:00] <kevin> rjian, if someone knows they will answer