[02:39] <franko_> you prolly hear this all the time but i just got this os today, is ATI unusable pretty much unless its restricted
[02:40] <cables> newbie, go to open with other application. It's fairly obviouss from there.
[02:40] <Jordan_U> agentjk, Yes
[02:40] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: it's my friend's drive, i've used it fine in Edgy 2 months ago, but i've formatted and installed Feisty since then
[02:40] <Ericc> hey everyone
[02:40] <wer> hi
[02:40] <newbie> cables: yes, but i 'd like to open with gedit, you know it is a txt file
[02:40] <linusttt> I have some serious trouble. I can't even run the Wubi installer without getting an error. Is this the right place to ask for directions?
[02:40] <Jordan_U> HorizonXP, Do you have ntfs-config installed?
[02:40] <cables> newbie, then select gedit from the list.
[02:40] <agentjk> should i use fat 32 for ubuntu or another format?
[02:41] <jrib> agentjk: ext3
[02:41] <HorizonXP> Jordan_U: yes, and I've told it to allow write access to internal and external drives
[02:41] <LjL> linusttt: the wubi installer is experimental unstable etc etc. use an ubuntu installation cd
[02:41] <cheeseboy> how i burn avi to dvd in ubuntu?
[02:41] <Jordan_U> linusttt, Not many people here know about wubi generally, I think there is a wubi specific channel though
[02:41] <cables> !repeat | cheeseboy
[02:41] <ubotu> cheeseboy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:41] <demona_> cheeseboy, easiest is to install devede, assuming you are a graphical person
[02:41] <Ericc> I'm lagging when using vlc over a mounted network drive.. would anyone be able to help me out for a min?
[02:41] <newbie> cables: i wonder why gedit can not display the context
[02:41] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ, Jordan_U: and I have write access to my windows partition
[02:41] <cables> newbie, did you select it? Perhaps it's a bad file.
[02:42] <demona_> cheeseboy, you can use ffmpeg, dvdauthor and mkiso to do it via commandline
[02:42] <newbie> cables: well , it looks funny, if open with gedit
[02:42] <agentjk> thanks
[02:42] <linusttt> Jordan_U: Any chance you might know where to find the Wubi channel on IRC?
[02:42] <demona_> newbie, what happens when you do "cat file"
[02:43] <newbie> demona_ i download a data file from web , and it is .cvs file, i try to open with gedit, -- so you guess it might be a bad file ?
[02:43] <cholera> I have tried Dia, does anyone have any recommendations for a program I could use to create a layout designed more for architectural use?
[02:43] <franko_> or my broadcom air force one driver isnt working i dont think
[02:43] <cables> bruenig, what's with the nick changes?
[02:43] <bruenig> messing with this idiot in another channel
[02:43] <cables> bruenig, eh?
[02:43] <bruenig> forgot I was still that
[02:44] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ, Jordan_U: no ideas?
[02:44] <newbie> cables: when i open with openoffice and copy to gedit, it is exactly what i m expecting , but just too many steps
[02:44] <bruenig> newbie, do you know what the terminal is
[02:44] <cheeseboy> i want somethink like nero
[02:44] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, have you tried backing up the USB drive and then reformatting it?
[02:44] <newbie> bruenig: sorry what do you mean? i m totally new ubuntuer
[02:44] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: It's not my drive, i'm not about to do that...
[02:44] <bruenig> cheeseboy, doesn't exist, devede will convert it and create an iso, then you can burn the iso with any burning app assuming you want to do it all graphically, not that hard
[02:45] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: that, and it's 500GB of stuff
[02:45] <bruenig> newbie, ok where is this file located, is it on your desktop?
[02:45] <cheeseboy> ugh
[02:45] <newbie> bruenig: or i m a newbie of linux
[02:45] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: I couldn't back that up very easily
[02:45] <taime1> My Computer Stops Responding if there is no internet connection or if it is trying to establish a connection... WHAT could be causing this? is this how Ubuntu acts without an internet connection?
[02:45] <newbie> bruenig: yes on my desktop
[02:45] <bruenig> cheeseboy, you can do it all via a script
[02:45] <cholera> also, my INS key is dead, is there another way I can toggle off the overwrite mode when working in a text editor?
[02:46] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, I have seen issues with USB drives like this before.  Are you getting an error message when you try to modify the files?
[02:46] <newbie> bruenig: if i use "less file.cvs" and it display good
[02:46] <LjL> cholera, if you have a numeric keypad, it has an Ins key (on the 0 key). just hit Num Lock and then use it
[02:46] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, anything in the syslog?
[02:47] <dantheredbomb> can you remap insert to another key(that isn't used)?
[02:47] <bruenig> newbie, what happens if you do gedit file.cvs
[02:47] <Surf24> cheeseboy; I may be wrong but Ubuntu doe not seem to have many non-self authored aps to work with for burning clips to dvd.  Look into Kino FAQa
[02:47] <newbie> bruenig: it looks like birdie language from alien planet which i can not understand
[02:47] <zenmonk> I am having an odd issue.  The root password works in terminal but doesn't work in graphical login, for example when trying to get to users and groups
[02:47] <zenmonk> what can I do?
[02:47] <bruenig> newbie, how did you know what less is
[02:48] <cables> zenmonk, you're not supposed to use a root password
[02:48] <nickrud> zenmonk, it's looking for your user password
[02:48] <nickrud> !sudo | zenmonk
[02:48] <ubotu> zenmonk: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:48] <zenmonk> cables, but I need it for administrative tasks
[02:48] <cables> zenmonk, no you don't
[02:48] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: in the syslog, it just has messages about a new device being added
[02:48] <cholera> LjL: yep, sure does.....I feel stupid. Thanks, it has been a disaster trying to edit files lately :)
[02:48] <cables> zenmonk, you use your regular password
[02:48] <bruenig> zenmonk, like what?
[02:48] <zenmonk> it said I need to be administrator to get to users and groups
[02:48] <zenmonk> oh gosh
[02:48] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, nothing in there about trying to write to a read-only drive?
[02:48] <bruenig> zenmonk, just put your password
[02:48] <cables> zenmonk, did it ask for a password?
[02:49] <zenmonk> it works, using my regular password
[02:49] <newbie> bruenig: i type directly in the terminal "less file.cvs" and it display English -- if i do "gedit file.cvs" and it display alien language
[02:49] <Gavana> DCC SEND C:\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[02:49] <cables> zenmonk, that's what it's supposed to do
[02:49] <cables> fuck
[02:49] <bruenig> !ops
[02:49] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[02:49] <nixternal> !language | cables
[02:49] <ubotu> cables: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:49] <cholera> f bomb
[02:49] <dantheredbomb> lmao
[02:49] <zenmonk> cables, I see that now.  I am confusing Linux's idea of adminstrator with the windows account Adminuistrator
[02:49] <zenmonk> doh! thanks for the help
[02:50] <bruenig> jrib is cruel, funny though
[02:50] <newbie> bruenig: i type directly in the terminal "less file.cvs" and it display English -- if i do "gedit file.cvs" and it display alien language
[02:50] <nickrud> darn, where do I find out about that bug?
[02:50] <taime1> My Computer Stops Responding if there is no internet connection or if it is trying to establish a connection... WHAT could be causing this? is this how Ubuntu acts without an internet connection?
[02:50] <bruenig> newbie, right, um... when you do cat file.cvs does it display properly?
[02:50] <cescalante> trying to install Feisty PPC
[02:50] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: this drive has 4 partitions. I get 4 messages popup saying it cannot mount the volume.
[02:50] <T3KN33K> hey
[02:50] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys for some reason after an update my laptop lost its gfx driver wifi driver and sound, just when I was thinking ubuntu was ready
[02:50] <cables> newbie, nice try. You don't know what terminal is, or how to use Open With, but you know what less is?
[02:50] <newbie> bruenig: what is "cat " ?
[02:50] <cescalante> trying to install Feisty PPC. getting an error that the Kernel didn't pass the MD5 Checksum
[02:50] <cables> newbie, drop the act
[02:50] <newbie> well i m trying now ...
[02:50] <cescalante> any thoughts?
[02:50] <bruenig> newbie, concatenate, just do it
[02:51] <Zoiks> hey dawn_chorus
[02:51] <Paddy_EIRE> !alsa
[02:51] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:51] <cables> !msgthebot | Paddy_EIRE
[02:51] <ubotu> Paddy_EIRE: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:51] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, what happened to ya?
[02:51] <newbie> burenig: cat also good
[02:51] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, are you able to mount any other usb drives with read/write?
[02:51] <cables> Paddy_EIRE, do "sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[02:51] <Zoiks> for some reason ubuntu complete borked it
[02:51] <nickrud> cescalante, sounds like a bad iso download; you could check the md5sums
[02:51] <T3KN33K> join #source
[02:51] <bruenig> newbie, ok try renaming it, mv file.cvs file.txt and then opening it in gedit
[02:51] <Zoiks> so I reformatted and started again
[02:51] <cescalante> so just re-dl?
[02:51] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ:  yea, my usb flash key
[02:51] <cescalante> and see what happens?
[02:51] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, everything cool?
[02:51] <cables> Paddy_EIRE, sorry, < sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` >
[02:52] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, For the GFX issues, did you install NVIDIA / ATI drivers from ATI / nvidia.com instead of from the restricted driver manager?
[02:52] <nickrud> cescalante, check the md5sums first (what's that page ...)
[02:52] <cables> Paddy_EIRE, that's a ` below the ~, not a quote.
[02:52] <Paddy_EIRE> no I used the restricted drivers manager
[02:52] <Zoiks> so anyway dawn_chorus, I plugged in my ipod and unplugged it 3 times, everything worked. Started up amaok, it worked. Unplugged and replugged it and the same thing
[02:52] <Zoiks> nothing
[02:52] <cables> Paddy_EIRE, can you run the command I sent?
[02:52] <Paddy_EIRE> although I wonder if this is worth fixing YET AGAIN
[02:52] <Zoiks> :(
[02:52] <newbie> bruenig: well same not working
[02:52] <Zoiks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2735445#post2735445
[02:52] <Paddy_EIRE> cables, I will
[02:52] <cescalante> nickrud: no clue
[02:52] <bruenig> newbie, then it is not a true text file
[02:53] <nickrud> cescalante, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[02:53] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, you're ejecting the ipod before you disconnect the usb, right?
[02:53] <Zoiks> of course
[02:53] <newbie> bruenig: so what do you think, that .cvs file , that can not be opened by gedit ? i thought gedit is very powerful
[02:53] <Zoiks> well i cant now because there is no icon to right click and eject with
[02:53] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, it may be the drive itself (my guess is the filesystem).  You could try running an fsck on the drive but I would definitely back that thing up first.  I have run into a similar issue where i ejected the drive early, causing me to not be able to write to it.  Even after running several fsck commands, I could not mount it properly.  I eventually backed it up and then repartitioned.  That finally worked
[02:53] <Zoiks> but when there was i did
[02:53] <Paddy_EIRE> cables,  I have already corrected the gfx and wifi just now although there is no alsa sound anymore
[02:54] <zenmonk> does anyone know why a cd that I am trying to copy would stop at 48%?  I am using xcdroast
[02:54] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: yeah, that's not really an option for me... if it was my drive, sure...
[02:54] <mario__> hi everyone
[02:54] <Paddy_EIRE> cables, should I just wait until this OS is ready?
[02:54] <bruenig> newbie, if it was a true text file, it would be open I have to think, see if vim can handle it "vim file.cvs"
[02:54] <newbie> bruenig: because less/cat all working fine, but not gedit -- is it funny or bug ?
[02:54] <nickrud> Zoiks, you can unmount from a terminal; ls /media will to check the name, then umount /media/<name>
[02:54] <cables> Paddy_EIRE, do what you want.
[02:54] <dantheredbomb> Paddy, was this when you uped the kernel to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:54] <Paddy_EIRE> cables, np, hx
[02:54] <bruenig> newbie, you said that even after you renamed it to txt it still didn't open right?
[02:54] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, may be an amaroK thing.  i dunno.  use GTKpod instead.
[02:54] <mario__> can any one help me with my GRUB
[02:55] <bruenig> !anyone
[02:55] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:55] <Zoiks> but its not mounting onto the computer either
[02:55] <mario__> everything went wrong
[02:55] <dawn_chorus> mario__, sure.
[02:55] <newbie> bruenig: rename to .txt also not working
[02:55] <bruenig> newbie, ok try vim like I said
[02:55] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, right.  and from what I recall, we couldn't even mount it manually.
[02:55] <Zoiks> `yeah
[02:55] <Zoiks> its just retarded
[02:55] <Zoiks> it works
[02:55] <Zoiks> then it does not
[02:55] <mario__> dawn_chorus, the thing is i updated my ubuntu and then my other OS don't appear in the grub menu
[02:56] <Nrbelex> Has anyone else noticed *EXTREMELY* long boot-times after installing the most recent kernel update?
[02:56] <gan|y|med> hi
[02:56] <newbie> bruenig: how can i exit vim -- i do not like vim or vi -- which always leave me somewhere -- that i have to close the terminal
[02:56] <jrib> skiffx: please go fix your router
[02:56] <gan|y|med>  can i end up with a less responsive system if i use a low latency kernel???
[02:56] <bruenig> newbie, type :q! and then hit enter
[02:56] <newbie> bruenig : vim can display
[02:56] <dawn_chorus> mario__, do you know how to pastebin your menu.lst ?
[02:56] <bruenig> newbie, well if vim can do it, I guess there is something up with gedit, I don't know what, seems odd
[02:56] <mario__> dawn_chorus, sure, i'll do it
[02:56] <newbie> bruenig: i do not like vim or vi
[02:56] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, sorry but I have not yet found a way to resolve the issue...
[02:57] <Zoiks> nickrud: that does not work, it is not showing up in /media
[02:57] <bruenig> newbie, yeah you said
[02:57] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, dmesg still shows you're plugging something in?
[02:57] <nickrud> Zoiks, yeah, I read what dawn_chorus said
[02:57] <cables>
[02:57] <redcard> newbie: MOst people will give answers in terms of vi/vim because vi is pretty much standard Unix fare
[02:57] <inflex> hey there, I've got a wacom tablet and at the moment it's setup to be in 'absolute' mode - anyone know how to change it to relative mode?
[02:57] <Zoiks> dawn_chorus: yes it is, still says sdd1 sdd2
[02:57] <inflex> (like a mouse)
[02:58] <newbie> bruenig: thanks -- that's very funny with gedit, less/cat/vim all working -- but gedit can not open that .cvs file
[02:58] <bruenig> newbie, you can use nano
[02:58] <mario__> dawn_chorus, this is what I got after installing some updates http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23007/
[02:58] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, when you right click on the icon for the drive, do you see that it only has read only permissions?
[02:58] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, do flash drives automount still?  check and see.
[02:58] <Jordan_U> newbie, Can you msg me the file, I am curious :)
[02:58] <dyoung_> I have a SMCWPCI-GM card, it detects the network, thought I can't connect. I have wpasupplicant installed though when I launch via wpagui it says "could not get status from wpa_supplicant".
[02:58] <dyoung_> I loaded my driver via ndiswrapper. Though when I type' ndiswrapper - l' it says invalid driver. Ideas?
[02:58] <Zoiks> i have no flash drives :(
[02:58] <dawn_chorus> mario__, i'll check that out.
[02:58] <mario__> dawn_chorus, do you know if there's a way to reinstall my grub as the ubuntu installer did
[02:59] <newbie> bruenig: thanks, i prefer to use openoffice/gedit rather than learn vim - sorry - i m a newbie
[02:59] <cables> !grub | mario__
[02:59] <ubotu> mario__: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:59] <bruenig> newbie, nano is easy to use
[02:59] <codeyman> which application do i use to convert .mov to .mp3 ?
[02:59] <dawn_chorus> mario__, we'll just add your other OS back by editing this file here.  it'll be cool.
[02:59] <inflex> ah, worked it out - brb
[02:59] <newbie> redcard: yes - but i like linux more and more now :D
[02:59] <bruenig> codeyman, .mov is a video file, .mp3 is audio...
[02:59] <codeyman> yes
[02:59] <newbie> jordan_u : how to
[03:00] <Zoiks> dawn_chorus: wait i do, I just plugged my phone in and it worked
[03:00] <cables> codeyman, you want to get the audio into a .mp3 file?
[03:00] <newbie> jordan_u : how to mail the file to you ?
[03:00] <cables> codeyman, vlc can do it.
[03:00] <codeyman> yes
[03:00] <Jordan_U> newbie, If you are using xchat then right click on my name and go to "send file"
[03:00] <mario__> dawn_chorus, I also have zenwalk installed, is it too hard to include it too?
[03:00] <codeyman> cables: oh..  i'll check it out and get back... thanks
[03:00] <newbie> jordan_u : well , sorry, no -- because it contains our customer login/details --
[03:01] <newbie> OK - thanks guys. -- I m learning linux day by day
[03:01] <dawn_chorus> mario__, can you mount the zenwalk partition to tell me certain filenames?
[03:01] <Ericc> It's lagging when using vlc over a mounted network drive.. would anyone be able to help me out for a min?
[03:01] <newbie> bye
[03:01] <newbie> \bye
[03:01] <xerophyte> any good vpn clients, how can i configure vpn client access ?
[03:01] <newbie> \exit
[03:01] <newbie> \quit
[03:01] <newbie> ?quit
[03:02] <cables> newbie try /quit
[03:02] <Frogzoo> newbie: other way /quit
[03:02] <dr_willis>  \ is for dos heads  :)
[03:02] <mario__> dawn_chorus, yes i have it already mounted, you tell me what you need
[03:02] <Ericc>  /bye lol
[03:02] <dantheredbomb> that guy was acting... for some reason
[03:02] <Ericc> lol
[03:02] <cables> you mean newbie?
[03:02] <cables> He did seem a bit fishy
[03:03] <Ericc> anyone use vlc and can help for a moment?
[03:03] <Ericc> vlc player*
[03:03] <poningru> xerophyte: just go applicatinos->internet->terminal client
[03:03] <codeyman> cables: any idea what should be the bitrate?
[03:03] <poningru> Ericc: whatsup?
[03:03] <Ericc> not too much u?
[03:03] <Ericc> did I see you here yesterday lol?
[03:03] <poningru> ...
[03:03] <cables> codeyman, 160 is good, 128 is okay, 96 is sorta okay, 64 sucks, 32 is worse, 16 is crap
[03:03] <poningru> I'm sure you did
[03:03] <poningru> whats the trouble?
[03:03] <dawn_chorus> mario__, look in /boot of the Zenwalk partition.  if there are files that start with "vmlinuz" and "initrd" then paste the names of them here.  if not, look for a filename that starts with "kernel", paste the filename here.
[03:04] <xerophyte> poningru ?
[03:04] <LjL> !away > Martinp23|Away    (Martinp23|Away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:04] <poningru> xerophyte: you asked for a vnc client right?
[03:04] <Ericc> poningru: I'm using vlc to watch videos on a mounted drive
[03:04] <codeyman> cables: i know that :P ..i mean anything is fine for portable media players right?
[03:04] <Ericc> oops poningru:
[03:04] <Ericc> *
[03:04] <xerophyte> poningru, yes, but i don't have terminal client
[03:04] <Nrbelex__> Has anyone else noticed *EXTREMELY* long boot-times after installing the most recent kernel update?
[03:04] <cables> codeyman, VLC sucks as an encoder though
[03:04] <cables> codeyman, I'd do this
[03:05] <goban> whats the difference between XGL and inderect rendering
[03:05] <poningru> xerophyte: yes you do
[03:05] <poningru> its not the exact name
[03:05] <cables> codeyman, use WAV, or at least a really high quality mp3
[03:05] <Paddy_EIRE> !alsa
[03:05] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:05] <poningru> but ists there
[03:05] <ward__> does anyone feel like helping me to get "veejay" (www.veejayhq.net) to work?
[03:05] <RAOF> goban: Join #ubuntu-effects, that's a much better place to ask that.
[03:05] <FFighter> hello folks
[03:05] <Pollywog> after I use qtparted to modify my partitions, how do I edit fstab so the thing boots?
[03:05] <Ericc> poningru: I'm using vlc to watch videos on a mounted drive and its lagging big time, do you have experience with vlc
[03:05] <cables> codeyman, then use LAME, which is a high quality mp3 encoder, to re-encode into the quality you want.
[03:05] <codeyman> cables: u mean encode as a wav
[03:05] <dantheredbomb> paddy, what did you do to break it?
[03:05] <mario__> dawn_chorus, /media/hda4/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20       /media/hda4/boot/initrd.splash
[03:05] <poningru> Ericc: just increase the cache
[03:05] <cables> codeyman, yep, then use LAME to encode to mp3 (LAME puts out better mp3s than VLC)
[03:05] <poningru> to something like 10mb or something
[03:05] <mario__> dawn_chorus, that's what i found
[03:06] <cables> codeyman, I can tell you the command to use for LAME
[03:06] <dawn_chorus> mario__, only initrd.splash?  is there is another initrd?
[03:06] <Ericc> because I'm using it over a samba server, that had been mounted on my computer
[03:06] <Pollywog> I could use a LIVE cd but then how do I mount the partition to make it writable so I can edit fstab?
[03:06] <Ericc> so its complete lag
[03:06] <Pokit> Im trying to install kiba dock (from a script) and i'm getting the following message:
[03:06] <Pokit> aclocal: configure.in: 28: macro `AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT' not found in library
[03:06] <Pokit> autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1
[03:06] <poningru> Ericc: yeah I know just increase the cache
[03:06] <Ericc> poningru: cache, got it thx
[03:06] <amrcidiot> guys, how to i instal an rpm file?
[03:06] <mario__> dawn_chorus, no, there's this also /media/hda4/boot/System.map-2.6.20
[03:06] <amrcidiot> *install
[03:06] <cables> !rpm | amrcidiot
[03:06] <ubotu> amrcidiot: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:06] <Pokit> any clue how to fix that?
[03:06] <gan|y|med>  can i end up with a less responsive system if i use a low latency kernel???
[03:06] <Pollywog> Pokit: did you install the correct automake?
[03:07] <cables> gan|y|med, I don't know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[03:07] <Pokit> how do i do that
[03:07] <gan|y|med> cables: huh, what's going on with you?
[03:07] <codeyman> cables: oh kewl.. so u mean i use vlc to encode mov to wav and then use Lame to convert wav to mp3?
[03:07] <Pollywog> Pokit: before you compile the thing run 'sudo apt-get build-dep <package>
[03:07] <dawn_chorus> mario__, hold on a sec.
[03:07] <cables> gan|y|med, one ? is enough.
[03:07] <cables> codeyman, yep
[03:07] <Pollywog> Pokit: before you compile the thing run 'sudo apt-get build-dep <package>'
[03:07] <Pokit> k
[03:07] <gan|y|med> cables: that is ALL???
[03:07] <poningru> !buildessential | Pokit
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <poningru> !build-essential | Pokit
[03:07] <codeyman> cables: thnx.. i'll try that
[03:07] <ubotu> Pokit: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:07] <Pollywog> that might get the correct automake
[03:08] <gan|y|med> and yes, the ? are intended. get yourself together, pls
[03:08] <cables> gan|y|med, you could always install the low-latency kernel to test, then go back to the normal one!!!!!
[03:08] <ward__> does anyone feel like helping me to get "veejay" (www.veejayhq.net) to work?
[03:08] <Pokit> im not compiling anything. I'm installing the program from a script
[03:08] <inflex> in Ubuntu, with metacity/gnome, when I insert my memory card for the camera it puts it onto the desktop - what application is it that monitors the ports and does that?
[03:08] <amrcidiot> could someone explane to me how to compile a source code?
[03:08] <cstextiles> Does Ubuntu Server comes with the GUI. I mean XServer ?
[03:08] <Pollywog> Pokit which program is it?
[03:08] <jrib> Pokit: then the script is compiling
[03:08] <Pokit> kiba-dock
[03:08] <poningru> Pokit: I know but the script is probably compiling
[03:08] <Pokit> oh
[03:08] <cables> !compile | amrcidiot
[03:08] <ubotu> amrcidiot: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:09] <dawn_chorus> mario__, and what partition is Zenwalk on?
[03:09] <poningru> Pokit: keep in mind thats a probably, we cant tell for sure without looking at the script
[03:09] <Pollywog> I am unfamiliar with that program but the error looks like an automake error
[03:09] <amrcidiot> thanks
[03:09] <Pollywog> after I use qtparted to modify my partitions, how do I edit fstab so the thing boots?
[03:09] <sldkfj> does someone know what the url is for the changelog to the feisty updates?
[03:09] <Pokit> k i wont make you read the script lol. its 500+ lines
[03:10] <gan|y|med> cables: WHAT the hell is going on with you?
[03:10] <cables> !ohmy | ganadist
[03:10] <ubotu> ganadist: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:10] <cables> !ohmy | gan|y|med
[03:10] <ubotu> gan|y|med: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:10] <mario__> dawn_chorus, that is hda4
[03:10] <poningru> Pollywog: just 'man fstab'
[03:10] <dr_willis> just ... heh heh :)
[03:10] <Mete0ra> FUCK MAN THIS FUCKING UBUNTU SHIT IS CRAZY ASS COOL GUYS
[03:10] <gan|y|med> what is going on here. i am not the one with the !!!!!!
[03:10] <cstextiles> Can anyone help me by cinveying whether Ubuntu Server comes with the GUI. I mean XServer ?
[03:10] <cables> gan|y|med, calm down, I gave you an answer to your very unclear question. Did you install the kernel already and are experiencing slow results, or are you asking before you install the kernel?
[03:11] <cables> cstextiles, it odesn't
[03:11] <Pollywog> that will tell me how to change fstab when the partition is not mounted yet?
[03:11] <Pollywog> I know the file format
[03:11] <sldkfj> Mete0ra, settle down, easy boy.
[03:11] <Pollywog> that is not the problem
[03:11] <cstextiles> cables: Are there any other edition which provides tools as server does and also provides GUI?
[03:11] <dawn_chorus> mario__, it's on a different disk than Ubuntu?
[03:11] <poningru> cstextiles: not out of the box but you can install it later on
[03:11] <Pollywog> I guess I will probably need to reinstall kubuntu
[03:11] <cables> cstextiles, the only difference between the desktop and server editions are the applications included.
[03:11] <tenrten> help
[03:11] <gan|y|med> cables: honestly, i am absolutely calm. i just wanna know, what's going on. i mean if sth is not clear then pls ASK and i'll provide additional info
[03:11] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  the fstab is where the mount command gets its info from..  you may need to rerun grub-install and perhaps edit the grub menu.lst if you rearanged partitions.
[03:12] <lifeisgreat1024> ubuntu server does not have an XServer
[03:12] <cables> cstextiles, so you can have the GUI of the desktop, and the whatever of the server.
[03:12] <poningru> Pollywog: no dude no need to reinstall, whats the problem?
[03:12] <tenrten> NEWBIE HERE, is anyone really good with with Unstalling ubuntu
[03:12] <mario__> dawn_chorus, yes
[03:12] <Pollywog> dr_willis: ty I think you are right
[03:12] <mario__> dawn_chorus, ubuntu is on hdb2
[03:12] <dawn_chorus> mario__, just double-checking.  :)
[03:12] <Jordan_U> !anyone | tenrten
[03:12] <ubotu> tenrten: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:12] <mario__> dawn_chorus, :)
[03:12] <cables> gan|y|med, I just did ask. But does this: < <gan|y|med> cables: WHAT the hell is going on with you? > appear calm to you?
[03:12] <cstextiles> poningru: cables: The probs is that the machine on which I am installing does not have Internet connection and so am trying to find such a edition
[03:12] <lifeisgreat1024> I'm sure you could probably put one on the server, but thats not the point of a server
[03:12] <dr_willis> tenrten,  use the XP cd/restore feature. and use the fixmbr to remove grub.. then use the drive manager to delete/reformat the linux partition.
[03:13] <Pollywog> poningru: I used qtparted to rearrange partitions.  Now when I try to start the machine it won't reboot if I do not modify fstab
[03:13] <poningru> Pollywog: ah ok
[03:13] <dr_willis> tenrten,  if you want  the partitions totally gone that is..
[03:13] <tenrten> Anybody really good with installing Ubuntu
[03:13] <cables> !ask | tenrten
[03:13] <ubotu> tenrten: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:13] <dr_willis> tenrten,  install? pop in live cd.. boot.. click install icon...
[03:13] <cables> !anyone | tenrten
[03:13] <ubotu> tenrten: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:13] <Jordan_U> tenrten, Just ask your question and if someone can help they will
[03:13] <Pollywog> I will have to mound the / partition so I can edit fstab before I reboot
[03:14] <poningru> Pollywog: just go into grub edit the kernel and root and you should be good to go
[03:14] <dantheredbomb> When cats stand on their hind legs, it looks like they are wearing pantaloons.
[03:14] <gan|y|med> does this appear calm? -> [02:07]  <cables> gan|y|med, I don't know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[03:14] <ArmeBoy> trying to install ubuntu in an old machine, mouse not detected, it has serial port, any suggestion???
[03:14] <cilaes> i know for a fact i install kubuntu-desktop through apt-get and when i try to remove it it wouldnt let me and so i found a command someone else made and it removed things like blender and gnomebaker... why?
[03:14] <cables> gan|y|med, if you're looking for help, then answer my question.
[03:14] <tenrten> I want to dual boot windows, but the 1st option on the partition wizard, is not avaible. HELP! :)
[03:15] <Pollywog> is there a cat that looks like a pirate in the movie with that green ogre?
[03:15] <dr_willis> tenrten,  so now we are finially getting to the real question>?
[03:15] <gan|y|med> cables: i take that as a definite no
[03:15] <poningru> tenrten: that means go back into windows and run a chkdisk or scandsk or whatever
[03:15] <cables> tenrten, go to manual, and resize your Windows partition. Then create a new partition (filesystem Ext3) and set its mount point to /
[03:15] <hanasaki> running fiesty fawn... it recognizes my usbflash drive when I put it in but wont mount
[03:15] <cables> gan|y|med, I asked you to clarify your question.
[03:15] <poningru> tenrten: then restart the boot process
[03:15] <cilaes> tenrten: and dont forget the swap
[03:15] <dantheredbomb> not a pirate... it's a spaniard
[03:15] <cdcarter> is there a .deb of glib2.10
[03:15] <tenrten> it says it will reformat my windows partiton if i resize it
[03:15] <Jordan_U> hanasaki, What FS is on the drive?
[03:15] <Pollywog> well it looks like a cat pirate
[03:15] <hanasaki> Fat
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> Can I resize LVM partitions on a running system, or do I need a Live CD?
[03:16] <cstextiles> Does TCM of LTSP Server of Ubuntu has VNC Server which can enable to look into the clients machine?
[03:16] <poningru> tenrten: how big is your harddrive?
[03:16] <jrib> cdcarter: why would you want it?
[03:16] <hanasaki> Jordan_U: it mounts fine from root
[03:16] <tenrten> 52.8
[03:16] <mario__> dawn_chorus, ill be back in a sec
[03:16] <hanasaki> i am in gnome
[03:16] <dantheredbomb> its not wearing an eye patch though... so I don't agree
[03:16] <tenrten> bg
[03:16] <Jordan_U> tenrten, It shouldn't.... can you post a screenshot?
[03:16] <tenrten> no
[03:16] <cdcarter> jrib: rubinius depends on it
[03:16] <Pollywog> oic
[03:16] <tenrten> 60.5 gb
[03:16] <Pollywog> I like the cat anyway
[03:16] <dantheredbomb> puss'n boots I believe it is
[03:16] <Pollywog> oic it does look like pussnboots
[03:16] <greyfrog> anyone know where the UUIDs in /etc/fstab are defined? (i.e. UUID of XX-XX-XXXX = sda1)
[03:17] <gan|y|med> cables: which i am going to do. i have a custom kernel (pentium m, preemptible). it seems (most extremely in the form of lags during working in kde) that it is slower than the generic one
[03:17] <dr_willis> tenrten,  i perfer to use a gparted live cd - and manually resize the existing windows hd/partitions myself.
[03:17] <tarelerulz> Is ubunt 7.04 at seen usb hardware such as mic/head adapter ?
[03:17] <cables> gan|y|med, if that is the case, then go back to your generic kernel.
[03:17] <dr_willis> greyfrog,   ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[03:17] <cstextiles> Does TCM of LTSP Server of Ubuntu has VNC Server which can enable to look into the clients machine?
[03:17] <davef> greyfrog: vol_id /dev/sda1
[03:17] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  i discovered that once. :)
[03:17] <tenrten> does anyone have aim so they can help me 1 on 1
[03:17] <Pollywog> dr_willis: and when you are done, how do you edit fstab?
[03:17] <bruenig> tenrten, what is your question
[03:17] <Pollywog> so the machine boots?
[03:18] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  with a text editor.
[03:18] <poningru> tonyyarusso: hmm
[03:18] <jrib> cdcarter: to compile it requires that specific version and won't compile with glib 2.12?
[03:18] <Pollywog> yes but it is not mounted
[03:18] <Jordan_U> greyfrog, The UUID depends on the partition and is independent of the device ( /dev/whatever )
[03:18] <hanasaki> Jordan_U:  any idea? its fat32 and mounts fine from root.. just wont automount in gnome for the regular account
[03:18] <tenrten> i cant install my ubuntu
[03:18] <Pollywog> I think I need to mount / read/write
[03:18] <cdcarter> jrib: all I can find in the repos are 2.0
[03:18] <cstextiles> Does TCM of LTSP Server of Ubuntu has VNC Server which can enable to look into the clients machine?
[03:18] <Pollywog> to modify fstab
[03:18] <tonyyarusso> poningru: Problem is, / is full, and includes /tmp, so I can't do anything, including opening gedit, etc.
[03:18] <Paddy_EIRE> could anyone help me get my sound working again after an update several things stopped working which I personally find unacceptable and NOT stable.. Anyway I managed to get gfx and wifi working again although still no sound
[03:18] <lonepine> where does ubuntu feisty mount smb shares?
[03:18] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  you are getting different things confused..  the fstab defines what gets mounted wher. If you need to edit the /etc/fstab - use a livecd and mount the filesystem and edit it. then reboot.
[03:19] <dantheredbomb> paddy, what did you update, the kernel?
[03:19] <poningru> tonyyarusso: ouch
[03:19] <Jordan_U> hanasaki, Does the account have permission to mount removable devices ( check in System -> Administration -> Users and Groups )
[03:19] <AnRkey_> lonepine, wherever you wnat
[03:19] <Surf24> tenrten; do you have enough memory or hd space?
[03:19] <gan|y|med> cables: that really doesn't help me. the generic one is not very responsive either
[03:19] <Pollywog> dr_willis: yeah that is it, what command do I use to mount the filesystem so the file can be edited?
[03:19] <jrib> cdcarter: feisty has 2.12 (ignore the package name)
[03:19] <tarelerulz> getting the ntfs config tool , ntfs-3g and ntfsprogram then you don't have to boot back into windows to file dirty mounted ntfs
[03:19] <cdcarter> jrib: huh, ok
[03:20] <Pollywog> is it mount -rw /  ?
[03:20] <illriginal> Hey guys, I'm trying to get a driver for my wireless usb adapter, and I'm gettin this error in terminal: http://www.pastebin.ca/517413
[03:20] <Acidictadpole> I'm having soem trouble getting my Soundblaster audigy 1 (gamer) working in ubuntu. I haven't seemed to have a problem previously but I only just installed ubuntu again a couple of days ago.
[03:20] <Paddy_EIRE> dantheredbomb, I have no idea I just let my laptop update as I assumed this was safe practice
[03:20] <poningru> tonyyarusso: I would probably just get a live cd and do it that way
[03:20] <Pollywog> is it mount -rw /dev/hdbx  ?
[03:20] <jrib> cdcarter: try 'apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0' to see.  I think the package just refers to the fact glib is the 2.0 series.  I could be wrong
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> poningru: 'k.  Retyping the e-mail I wanted to send in nano then.
[03:20] <mario__> dawn_chorus, im back
[03:20] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  mount /dev/whatever /place-to-mount-to
[03:20] <poningru> tonyyarusso: in absense of a live cd I would mount /tmp in a usb flash drive or something
[03:21] <Pollywog> afrog an acidictapole and a pollywog hmmm
[03:21] <cdcarter> jrib: ok, then its failing somewhere else, thanks!
[03:21] <lonepine> AnRkey_, ok then how do I mount smb shares so I can see them in wine?
[03:21] <poningru> tonyyarusso: do you have a live cd?
[03:21] <greyfrog> dr_willis, davef, Jordan_U: do any of you know how these UUIDs get set?  Can I change the symlinks in /dev/disk/by-uuid ? I ask because when I upgraded my kernel today, it renamed all my sdX's to hdX's so fstab can't mount / or swap
[03:21] <AnRkey> ahh
[03:21] <Acidictadpole> i wonder why that hilited me Pollywog, you misspelt it :/
[03:21] <dawn_chorus> mario__, are you sure that "vmlinuz-2.6.20" is the full filename?
[03:21] <gan|y|med> is it a good idea to use the  Planet CCRMA kernel in ubuntu?
[03:21] <Acidictadpole> I'm having soem trouble getting my Soundblaster audigy 1 (gamer) working in ubuntu. I haven't seemed to have a problem previously but I only just installed ubuntu again a couple of days ago.
[03:21] <GenNMX> lonepine: Mount them as normal -- the Z:\ drive in WINE links to root ( \ )
[03:21] <Pollywog> yes I did
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> poningru: I do.  I was just trying to get this e-mail sent before rebooting if possible.  (Can't send without /tmp either)
[03:22] <GenNMX> lonepine: Err, /
[03:22] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  personally.. i edit the fstab to use the /dev/hda (or whatever old name) and delete the uuid stuff. :)
[03:22] <Rodel> if when i put 'ln -s garnome/2.18.1 /opt/gnome' into a terminal and i get 'ln: creating symbolic link `/opt/gnome' to `garnome/2.18.1': Permission denied' what can i do to get permission?
[03:22] <poningru> tonyyarusso: ah gotcha
[03:22] <Paddy_EIRE> is there no alternative to windows system restore in ubuntu so I could roll back a day or so
[03:22] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  or i make them mount by lable.
[03:22] <poningru> Rodel: sudo
[03:22] <GenNMX> lonepine: WINE can access all of your computer by default through Z:\
[03:22] <Paddy_EIRE> then I will not click update again
[03:22] <mario__> dawn_chorus, /media/hda4/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20
[03:22] <illriginal> Hey guys, I'm trying to get a driver for my wireless usb adapter, and I'm gettin this error in terminal: http://www.pastebin.ca/517413
[03:22] <mario__> dawn_chorus, full name
[03:22] <tarelerulz> to mount my ntfs I did ntfsfix and I mount the ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /media/sda2 -o force and it worked fine
[03:22] <greyfrog> dr_willis: thats what I thinking of doing as well... just rename in fstab.  mount by label? what's that?
[03:22] <poningru> Paddy_EIRE: what broke?
[03:23] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, There are often automatic backups of system files when they change, what system file do you need to revert?
[03:23] <dawn_chorus> mario__, make a backup of your current menu.lst.
[03:23] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  same as uuid. :) it can mount by the filesystems Lable Name instead of UUID.
[03:23] <lonepine> GenNMX: thanks I'll give it a go
[03:23] <Paddy_EIRE> Jordan_U, err my sound
[03:23] <Rodel> poningru: doh! thanks :P
[03:23] <poningru> illovae: hold on looking
[03:23] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  nifty thing i leared by reading up on UUID and related stuff
[03:23] <greyfrog> dr_willis: ahhh, thanks for the info :)
[03:23] <mario__> dawn_chorus, can you give me the command to do that right away
[03:23] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  # ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/
[03:23] <poningru> illriginal: hmm weird that should have worked out of the box
[03:23] <felipe__> Hello people, I was wondering if someone could point me out to a list of compatible TV tuners that work for linux, I've got a HP ExpressCard Digital/Analog TV Tunner
[03:23] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  you can set the Label with the tune2fs command :)
[03:24] <illriginal> you think so?...
[03:24] <dawn_chorus> mario__, sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup
[03:24] <illriginal> i dunno how to check if it's pickin up my wireless router
[03:24] <poningru> illriginal: can you see it in the networking window?
[03:24] <dantheredbomb> paddy, you might want to revert back to 2.6.20-15 and see if that fixes it.
[03:24] <illriginal> no only my "wired" connection
[03:24] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, Have you checked that all of the channels have the volume up and unmuted in alsamixer ?
[03:24] <poningru> illriginal: hmm
[03:24] <poningru> illriginal: go into a terminal
[03:24] <illriginal> ok
[03:24] <poningru> and type in iwlist scan
[03:24] <greyfrog> dr_willis: thanks much, reading up on tune2fs now :)
[03:25] <poningru> and press enter
[03:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Jordan_U, yeah I know this procedure although alsa mixer no longer works
[03:25] <mario__> dawn_chorus, i did that
[03:25] <poningru> illriginal: does it give anything other than your wired?
[03:25] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  theres a lot of interesting progress being made. :) the UUID stuff is neat idea and very useable.. but makes the fstab very Unreadable. :(
[03:25] <mario__> dawn_chorus, thanks, i-m learning so much
[03:25] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, No longer works in what way, does it give an error?
[03:25] <illriginal> illriginal@illriginal:~$ iwlist scanlo        Interface doesn't support scanning.
[03:25] <illriginal> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[03:25] <illriginal> eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[03:25] <dawn_chorus> mario__, now gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and paste the new pastebin into menu.lst --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23010/
[03:26] <djy_> hi all
[03:26] <ubuntu> Heyyyy
[03:26] <poningru> illriginal: from now on use pastebin
[03:26] <tarelerulz> any one have a wireless card work right out of the box for anyone ? I am hoping the new once are better supported.
[03:26] <ubuntu> someohe here
[03:26] <ubuntu> fast
[03:26] <illriginal> ok
[03:26] <Jordan_U> illriginal, What chipset is your wireless card?
[03:26] <Acidictadpole> I'm having soem trouble getting my Soundblaster audigy 1 (gamer) working in ubuntu. I haven't seemed to have a problem previously but I only just installed ubuntu again a couple of days ago.
[03:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Jordan_U, alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[03:26] <ubuntu> the new kernel is bastards
[03:26] <djy_> ati 9200se can use 22' lcd
[03:26] <ubuntu> it can't load the ubuntu
[03:26] <djy_> ati 9200se can use 22' lcd ??
[03:26] <ubuntu> it say the it can't
[03:26] <Paddy_EIRE> ubuntu, they always are
[03:26] <dawn_chorus> boot into the old one until another update comes out.
[03:26] <AnRkey> lonepine, i have private messaged you
[03:26] <ubuntu> after when i change the nvidia nv it work
[03:26] <jasin> hello
[03:26] <jasin> :)
[03:26] <greyfrog> dr_willis: very much so :|  I really like the idea of being able to make my own labels and using those...  still need to worry about kernel changing the way it defines between hda/sda, but at least this way I know more about whats going on
[03:26] <ubuntu> but after that it won't work nvidia-settings
[03:27] <AnRkey> hello jasin
[03:27] <ubuntu> Paddy_EIRE: man,this is the is first time
[03:27] <Jordan_U> ubuntu, Did you install drivers from nvidia.com or envy ?
[03:27] <illriginal> I believe Zydas? ill check on the list
[03:27] <Rodel> how do i uncreate aka delete a symbolic link?
[03:27] <ubuntu> Jordan_U: no i installed from the updates.
[03:27] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  the hda/sda stuff is a nother beast totally. :) thats part of the rewrite of the ata libs/system I think. :) i skimmed some info on it ages ago.
[03:27] <jrib> Rodel: rm
[03:27] <poningru> illriginal: can you do a lsusb -vv ? and pastebin the wifi usb dongle portion
[03:27] <ubuntu> Jordan_U: this who make new kernels are bastards
[03:27] <poningru> illovae: it is
[03:27] <jasin> New kernel in updates
[03:27] <poningru> err illriginal its, zydas or somethign that is
[03:27] <Jordan_U> ubuntu, No, I mean how did you originally install the drivers, through the restricted driver manager?
[03:27] <poningru> illriginal: my friend had this
[03:28] <ubuntu> i can't run the nvidia
[03:28] <illriginal> yeah it's zydas for sure
[03:28] <rummik> hey, i'm having trouble with my sound card. lspci tells me "00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 02)"
[03:28] <ubuntu> Jordan_U: yes
[03:28] <ubuntu> Jordan_U: restricted manager
[03:28] <poningru> !sound | rummik
[03:28] <ubotu> rummik: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:28] <kkrusty> does anyone know a good speech recognition software for ubuntu?
[03:28] <ubuntu> are here the programers who make the new kernel
[03:29] <ubuntu> this is the first time that happend when i update kernel
[03:29] <jamster545> hi?
[03:29] <ubuntu> 2 kernels was installed and this is the first problem,this programers are drunk.
[03:29] <Jordan_U> ubuntu, Did you get an update for restricted modules when you got an update for the kernel?
[03:29] <crimsun> ubuntu: do you mean 2.6.20-16.28?
[03:29] <ubuntu> crimsun: yes
[03:29] <ubuntu> Jordan_U: yes
[03:29] <crimsun> ubuntu: what's the precise issue?
[03:29] <Paddy_EIRE> its funny how fickle linux is.. I though it was rock solid? things just go from working to not working in a flash, and this is intended for end-users
[03:30] <poningru> crimsun: hmm thats twice that someone has complained
[03:30] <mario__> dawn_chorus, thanks a looot man
[03:30] <ubuntu> crimsun: when i start 2.6.20-16.28 it say that the nvidia
[03:30] <jamster545> hi... i cant get the adept notifier to install the updates... (it says there are 49) what do i do?
[03:30] <mario__> dawn_chorus, i-ll try it and i-ll be back to tell ya
[03:30] <jasin> 2.6.20-16 is the one on updates
[03:30] <dantheredbomb> snd-hda-intel alsa work-around had problems with the update I think
[03:30] <Rodel> how do i remove a symbolic link?
[03:30] <dawn_chorus> mario__, cool. keep your fingers crossed.
[03:30] <dr_willis> rm thenameofthething
[03:30] <illriginal> poningru:
[03:30] <dr_willis> just like a file
[03:30] <ubuntu> crimsun: and i need to chane to nv to work,but when i write nvidia-settings it won't display the control panel
[03:30] <tarelerulz> Kkrsty , I am looking for speech to text program that is open source myself. I have not found anything that don't take some sort of close source stuff
[03:30] <crimsun> poningru: that's because no one tests when I ask them to.
[03:30] <Acidictadpole> I'm having soem trouble getting my Soundblaster audigy 1 (gamer) working in ubuntu.
[03:30] <jasin> I've had no troubles with 2.6.20-16-
[03:30] <Surf24> Paddy EIRE; Can't agree things got better as I progressed.
[03:30] <poningru> crimsun: sign me up for your list
[03:31] <illriginal> poningru: http://www.pastebin.ca/517434
[03:31] <poningru> crimsun: I'll test
[03:31] <dr_willis> Acidictadpole,  oh? Mine works great.  well i got a 2zs right now.. My older card was an Audigy1
[03:31] <kkrusty> terelerulz: yeah IBM via voice is the usual reason. And the rest seem unmaintained
[03:31] <crimsun> poningru: there's an open invitation for our git tree.  Do tests daily.
[03:31] <Zoiks> dawn_chorus: i have asked in #amarok if they knew of anything but noone has replied. Do you know of anyone else in this forum that might be able to help?
[03:31] <ubuntu> crimsun: and now say something for the nvidia
[03:31] <tarelerulz> I read about that one ,but I thought it was close source with some open source
[03:31] <crimsun> ubuntu: that's the l-r-m issue due to linux-meta not having built yet for i386 and amd64.
[03:32] <ubuntu> ????
[03:32] <crimsun> ubuntu: in the meantime, just install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic manually.
[03:32] <Acidictadpole> dr_willis: I dont hear anything, i have alsamixer running but my line is completely void of sound. I moved my headphone plug around a bit on the card to see if it was different from windows. And I got a response from one of them, although it was all crackly and staticky, although i could hear the "test beeps" above it.
[03:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Surf24, yeah but thats from someone actually skilled and interested in the ins and outs but not for someone looking to have a computer in there home or office that works, imagine I had put this on my work comp, I would be left to do all this
[03:32] <kkrusty> Oh well I'll have to drop my plans of yelling commands to my system
[03:32] <crimsun> rummik: please use http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/scripts/alsa-info.sh
[03:32] <poningru> illriginal: pastebin your /var/log/dmesg
[03:32] <ubuntu> crimsun: it won't work .
[03:32] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, What happens when you run this? : sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[03:32] <poningru> illriginal: if you dont know how to do this let me know
[03:32] <jamster545> HELLO? i cant get adept notifier to open, it asks for password, i enter it, nothing happens
[03:32] <ubuntu> crimsun: i try it too,
[03:32] <illriginal> just type /var/log/dmesg into terminal
[03:32] <illriginal> ?
[03:33] <illriginal> Yeah there's alot of commands I do NOT know poningru :x
[03:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Jordan_U, tons of error messages
[03:33] <crimsun> Jordan_U: be aware that most people often mistake restart for reset.
[03:33] <poningru> illriginal: cat /var/log/dmesg
[03:33] <ubuntu> popey from the ubuntu-uk that when he install the new kernel the wifi didn't work
[03:33] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, naw.  you should search ubuntuforums.org or maybe join a mailing list.
[03:33] <tarelerulz> kkrusty ,is it all  open source some sort of combo ?
[03:33] <poningru> cat is _the_ basic command
[03:33] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, Can you pastebin them?
[03:33] <poningru> it just reads a file
[03:33] <jamster545> am i going to get an answer?
[03:33] <Zoiks> no idea about mailing lists
[03:34] <Zoiks> and i have done a search of ubuntuforums
[03:34] <Surf24> Paddy EIRE: I know your point but having it on the side w/o windows keep my other box leaner.
[03:34] <Zoiks> thanks anyway dawn_chorus
[03:34] <guigz2000> hello
[03:34] <poningru> crimsun: I thought the last update was just a abi version change or something
[03:34] <dr_willis> Acidictadpole,  hmm the  conectors should stay the same.
[03:34] <harald_> how can i disable the bootscreen-logo of feisty?
[03:34] <poningru> atleast thats what my update is saying
[03:34] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, have you tried mounting it manually sine your reinstall?
[03:34] <jamster545> ...
[03:34] <Acidictadpole> dr_willis: was there anything you needed to do to get yours working ?
[03:34] <sdf> hi when i try to send email for email with extenstion  @yahoo.co.uk   i have error  is unable to connect smpt server  how can i solve this??
[03:34] <redDEAD> i put an audio disk into my drive and it wont open up to lets me see the files
[03:34] <rummik> crimsun: it doesn't work
[03:34] <dr_willis> Acidictadpole,  to ne honest.. my audigy cards have been a no brainer..  never had to do much of anything to get them working.
[03:34] <jacked> is it possible to grab grub off a live install cd?
[03:35] <dr_willis> Acidictadpole,  other then tweak the mixer to enable the rear speakers.. thats it.
[03:35] <jacked> (as an individual package)
[03:35] <Acidictadpole> dr_willis: :/ Do you know of any diagnostics i could run?
[03:35] <illriginal> poningru: http://www.pastebin.ca/517442
[03:35] <tarelerulz> kkrusty , I mean it that speech-to-text program open source or combo of open and close soucre ?
[03:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Jordan_U, here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23011/
[03:35] <poningru> harald_: go into /boot/grub/menu.lst and in there find your ubuntu booting options and delete the word splash
[03:35] <ubuntu> pfuuuu
[03:35] <jamster545> *ignored by all*
[03:35] <rummik> crimsun: it complains about syntax error, and a few other things
[03:35] <ubuntu> this bastards
[03:35] <dawn_chorus> jacked, yes.
[03:35] <dr_willis> Acidictadpole,  may want to check the Ubuntu forums/wiki and thers the !alsa info
[03:35] <dr_willis> !alsa
[03:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:35] <poningru> jamster545: whats wrong?
[03:35] <Zoiks> no i have not dawn_chorus
[03:35] <kkrusty> tarelerulz: well i checked the homepage of CVoiceControl, it didnt seem to depend on anything closed source from its description. But it hasnt been maintained since 2002
[03:35] <jamster545> i cant get adept notifier to open
[03:35] <Zoiks> dawn_chorus: how would i go about that again
[03:35] <ubuntu> before to install news kernel update say that there was 5 download
[03:35] <mzaza> Do anyone have a debian package for the wine-doors?
[03:35] <ubuntu> but there was only 2
[03:35] <jacked> dawn_chorus:  can you give me a tip on how to do that?
[03:35] <jamster545> it asks for password, i enter it, nothing happens
[03:35] <Pelo> mzaza, ask in #winehq
[03:36] <guigz2000> I have a small problem with my ubuntu.It's installed on an Imac G4.When I put a DVD in the reader,sometimes it's mounted,sometimes it's ejected after a moment.Sometime it just keep ejecting.
[03:36] <mzaza> Pelo: Ok, thanks.
[03:36] <davef> jamster545: have you run it from a shell to see if it outputs any errors?
[03:36] <mzaza> Pelo: is it easy to build debian packages from the tarball?
[03:36] <kkrusty> tarelerulz: i didnt install any of the ones i found
[03:36] <jamster545> idk how
[03:36] <dawn_chorus> jacked, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=grub
[03:36] <redDEAD> i put an audio disk into my drive and it wont open up to lets me see the files
[03:36] <tarelerulz> kkrusty, I would like to open source speech-to-text program like Drangon natural speech?
[03:36] <Pelo> mzaza,  I hve no idea I 've never tried
[03:36] <mzaza> Pelo: Ok thanks
[03:37] <guigz2000> and when I ask to eject using the keyboard eject button,it's ejected and then reinserted..Completly chaotic thing.
[03:37] <mzaza> Anyone have any idea if is it easy to build a debian package?
[03:37] <redDEAD> i put an audio disk into my drive and it wont open up to lets me see the files says could not display cdds:///dev/scd1
[03:37] <rummik> crimsun: wait, here's the pastbin link from the program http://pastebin.ca/517443
[03:37] <zabin> hey
[03:37] <zabin> does anyone here know php?
[03:37] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, mkdir /mnt/ipod
[03:37] <rummik> zabin: a little...why?
 can i replace "splash" with ""?
[03:37] <poningru> jamster545: just go into terminal 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade'
[03:37] <dawn_chorus> pretty
[03:38] <poningru> harald_: nothing
[03:38] <poningru> just delete it
[03:38] <zabin> im getting a warning when i am doing an fopen and reading
[03:38] <crimsun> rummik: does muting 'External Amplifier' help?
[03:38] <Pelo> redDEAD, audio cds donT' have files on them, not realy, maybe a dat file but that's all,  try playing the cd in totem or something , serpentine maybe
[03:38] <Surf24> mzaza;try recompiling an rpm.
[03:38] <cstextiles> Does TCM of LTSP Server of Ubuntu has VNC Server which can enable to look into the clients machine?
[03:38] <zabin> rummik:
[03:38] <zabin> Warning:  fopen(/home/zabin/users.txt) [function.fopen] : failed to open stream: Permission denied in /var/www/vote2.php on line 18
[03:38] <harald_> yes - ok ... thank you
[03:38] <crimsun> rummik: if not, try muting both of the jack sense elements.
[03:38] <mzaza> Surf24: Ok, thanks.
[03:38] <poningru> cstextiles: you might have better luck in #edubuntu
[03:38] <kkrusty> tarelerulz: Ive never heard of Drangon. I found a page on tldp.org about speech recognition software and thats pretty much it.
[03:38] <zabin> im not sure why it is not able to open that file.
 _> yes - ok ... thank you
[03:38] <ward__> does anyone feel like helping me to get "veejay" (www.veejayhq.net) to work?
[03:38] <poningru> illriginal: sorry looking
[03:39] <cstextiles> poningru: Thanks
[03:39] <jacked> dawn_chorus:  thanks!
[03:39] <zabin> is there a programming channel?
[03:39] <Pelo> ward__,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[03:39] <illriginal> it's cool poningru... and i just realized my hyper threading is turned off!!!
[03:39] <dawn_chorus> jacked, no problem.  let me know if it works ok.
[03:39] <redDEAD> Pelo, thanks it opens fine in players and such
[03:39] <illriginal> that's bullcrap
[03:39] <linux_> anyone could help me?
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> zabin, many
[03:39] <tarelerulz> I really think something like good  speech-to-text program would be great for open source .
[03:39] <zabin> what is it?
[03:39] <rummik> crimsun: still nothing
[03:39] <Pelo> zabin,  I'm told #ubuntu-programming  but I might have missread
[03:39] <zabin> Paddy_eire>: how can i find them?
[03:39] <larson9999_> errr, is there a gnome version of kdesu ?
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> zabin, which language?
[03:39] <jamster545> sorry my gay crap router disconnected me
[03:39] <zabin> php
[03:39] <poningru> illriginal: hmm did you have the usb dongle plugged in when you were turning on your computer?
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | jamster545
[03:39] <ubotu> jamster545: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:39] <crimsun> rummik: try the second suggestion.
[03:39] <poningru> jamster545: just go into terminal 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade'
[03:40] <ward__> Pelo, its a little more complicated then that :p
[03:40] <jamster545> i did
[03:40] <kkrusty> tarelerulz: yeah me too but it seems folks lost interest on speech-to-text and stuff few years back
[03:40] <rummik> crimsun: i just did ;)
[03:40] <crimsun> rummik: (and make sure you reset 'External Amplifier')
[03:40] <ward__> Pelo, alse i wouldnt ask here
[03:40] <poningru> jamster545: and?
[03:40] <jamster545> it installed those but it still says there are 49 updated packages available
[03:40] <bruenig> kkrusty, most people can type about as fast as they speak anyways
[03:40] <illriginal> poningru... honestly, i don't think so, i just now installed the hardware
[03:40] <lockd> where do you specify modules to be loaded?
[03:40] <cables> What the hell? After the kernel update, my hard drives are back to being hda4
[03:40] <poningru> jamster545: its probably broken, restart the update notifier or whatever its called
[03:40] <illriginal> poningru it blinked a few times
[03:40] <poningru> illriginal: restart your computer
[03:40] <cables> bruenig, that's so not true
[03:40] <illriginal> ok
[03:40] <lockd> some distros use modules.autoload.d - not in Ubuntu
[03:40] <jamster545> it does it whenever i restart comp
[03:40] <illriginal> brb
[03:41] <dsnyders> cables, me to.  What's up with that?
[03:41] <bruenig> by most people, I mean me
[03:41] <jamster545> it is the adept notifier
[03:41] <rummik> crimsun: ok, still nothing...iirc it gave me some kind of error on boot, didn't catch it though
[03:41] <ubuntu> you bastards programers
[03:41] <ubuntu> (06:39:40 PM) ubuntu: linux-image-generic <IP_ADDRESS>.28.1
[03:41] <ubuntu> (06:39:54 PM) ubuntu: and the kernel is 2.6.20-16.28
[03:41] <tarelerulz> Well, I have seen some really good work on it ,but it is all close source stuff.  Never any think open .  I mean they have it on phones , your computer and really cool stuff.
[03:41] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | ubuntu
[03:41] <ubotu> ubuntu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:41] <Ericc> did you guys see microsofts presentation on TEXT 2 Speach lol
[03:41] <Pelo> ward__,  questions in this channel range from 12o'clock flasher to 1337 h4x0rs,   there is no way to tell from a name,  you asked about installing I gave you installing instructions
[03:41] <ubuntu> who make this kernel
[03:41] <davef> I used git to download the kernel source.  To build the kernel I had to edit debian/abi/2.x.x/i386/generic.modules to remove a line, and now I can't do a 'git pull'.  Can anyone help.
[03:41] <Pollywog> I think he meant gray carp
[03:41] <cables> dsnyders, well when it went to Feisty, it changed from hda to sda, now it's back. I guess it's just a different driver.
[03:41] <zabin> does anyone here know php i have a quick question
[03:41] <cables> It's not really a problem for me, though.
[03:41] <flitterby> Hi. I'm having a problem (I think) with using the update program.  Normally it gives me some feedback about what it's doing, but today when I clicked on 'Install Updates' it's just sitting there.... no pop up windows to say it's downloading.  Suggestions?  I know it's a bit update (linux kernal), but after an hour it seems something should be happening.
[03:41] <ubuntu> !ohmy |  tonyyarusso
[03:41] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:41] <kkrusty> bruenig: I dont know. I just think its cool
[03:41] <ward__> Pelo, i know that's why i tell you :-)
[03:41] <Jordan_U> harald_, Remove the "splash" kernel parameter from GRUB
[03:41] <Jordan_U> jack_wyt, What do you mean by "grab" ?
[03:42] <flitterby> (bit/big)
[03:42] <dsnyders> cables, It is a problem for me.  I cannot boot unless the drives are right.
[03:42] <lockd> anyone know where modules to be autoloaded are specified?
[03:42] <jamster545> he means how to get the file from the disk
[03:42] <cables> dsnyders, it seems to have adjusted mine to hda.
[03:42] <Pelo> lockd,   /etc/init.d
[03:42] <crimsun> ubuntu: are you current?  Have you updated && dist-upgraded?
[03:42] <dawn_chorus> lockd, something like 'lsmod', or where they are on the file tree?
[03:42] <cables> dsnyders, is there any way you can edit a file?
[03:42] <Ericc> anyone have a t1
[03:42] <crimsun> ubuntu: the fix wasn't pushed through until yesterday, which means your mirror may not have synced yet
[03:43] <jtu> any recommendations for recording video and audio in linux?
[03:43] <jtu> using video4linux2
[03:43] <jtu> device
[03:43] <Acidictadpole> I'm having soem trouble getting my Soundblaster audigy 1 (gamer) working in ubuntu.
[03:43] <poningru> jtu: many, jokosher etc.
[03:43] <lockd> dawn_chorus: they are installed to /lib/modules whatever.. make install did it for me
[03:43] <cables> dsnyders, do you have a Knoppix CD anywhere? (Ubuntu isn't going to cut it)
[03:43] <dsnyders> Cables, fsck is dropping me into a maintenance prompt because it cannot check the drives listed in fstab.
[03:43] <Paddy_EIRE> it would be good if there was an omit broken crap button on the update notifier
[03:43] <lockd> dawn_chorus: i can load them by hand (modprobe works, in other words)
[03:43] <lockd> Pelo: thanks
[03:43] <crimsun> Acidictadpole: you're being a bit unhelpful regarding necessary details.
[03:43] <illriginal> poningru, im back!
[03:43] <ubuntu> crimsun: ubuntu-uk man
[03:43] <cables> dsnyders, then we'll change dstab
[03:43] <dsnyders> cables, All I have to do is ctrl-d to get in
[03:43] <Acidictadpole> crimsun: apologies.. what kind of details do you consider necessary
[03:43] <Pelo> Acidictadpole, check the forum for the exact model , you may find some answers
[03:44] <ubuntu> crimsun: i can't see you what are you write.
[03:44] <dsnyders> cables, dstab?  what is dstab?
[03:44] <crimsun> Acidictadpole: a precise description of the issue.
[03:44] <cables> dsnyders, typo, fstab
[03:44] <pegel-linux> my beryl hang after i used it for several minutes
[03:44] <junkeR> hello, can someone solve my Mozilla-flash problem in Ubuntu?
[03:44] <Acidictadpole> crimsun: it's not outputting sound?
[03:44] <lockd> Pelo: init.d though? that's init scripts
[03:44] <crimsun> ubuntu: a what?  I'm addressing my statements to you.
[03:44] <junkeR> I have a screenshot of what's going wrong here:
[03:44] <junkeR> http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6351/screenshottoyotacarstruts2.png
[03:44] <Pelo> pegel-linux,  ask in #beryl
[03:44] <crimsun> Acidictadpole: everywhere?
[03:44] <dsnyders> cables, Whew!  I thought ubuntu was going into wild directions again.
[03:44] <pegel-linux> ok
[03:44] <Pelo> lockd, sorry I thought that was what you wanted
[03:44] <tarelerulz> Hay Junker do you have it on Kubuntu ?
[03:44] <Acidictadpole> crimsun: i think a better term is nowhere, but yes.. no sound at all
[03:44] <junkeR> ubuntu
[03:44] <ubuntu> junkeR: what?
[03:44] <crimsun> Acidictadpole: e.g., in a Terminal, is ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav'' inaudible?
[03:45] <lockd> Pelo: well, don't all the init scripts have configuration files?
[03:45] <ubuntu> crimsun: nothing .
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone fancy helping me get alsa back as an option in my sound devices after it decided to disappear
[03:45] <poningru> illriginal: did it work?
[03:45] <wn> I've checked the forums and Google for this and haven't found anything, so... I'm trying to boot Ubuntu 7.04 Server on my laptop and immediately after grub loading stage1.5 I get this error:
[03:45] <wn> Int 14: CR2 c1000000  err 00000002  EIP c03f3c3e  CS 00000060  flags 00010006
[03:45] <junkeR> when I visit flash pages like toyota.com, a huge white box blocks out the page
[03:45] <Mikeh> Yesterday I applied a kernel update, and now there are two bootable Ubuntu's, I realize this is a just in case feature, but is there any way I can turn it off? or make it go away after awhile?
[03:45] <junkeR> image here:
[03:45] <junkeR> http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6351/screenshottoyotacarstruts2.png
[03:45] <illriginal> poningru, I restarted.... heh how do I check to see if it worked?
[03:45] <tarelerulz> I had my Kubuntu would not install firefore any reason and I don't know why . I would not ever get an error .
[03:45] <ubuntu> junkeR: ????
[03:45] <dsnyders> cables, The thing is, though, I just changed my fstab from hda to sda a few weeks ago.  Now I have to go back?
[03:45] <poningru> illriginal: click on the network manager thing
[03:45] <cables> dsnyders, i guess
[03:45] <lockd> Pelo: there has to be a way to add modules to be autoloaded at boot
[03:45] <RAOF> Mikeh: You can uninstall the old kernel in the package manager (synaptic, adept, aptitude, apt-get)
[03:45] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[03:45] <jacked> dawn_chorus:  actually, that's not going to work.  I need the actual grub .deb file.  I'm talking somebody through a system restore... they don't have an Internet connection but they have a liveCD  (and they have actually removed grub using apt)
[03:45] <Pelo> lockd, not realy sure,  I was under the impression that the services all add their startup files in there,  I may be mistaken I haven't messed with that stuff yet
[03:46] <Mikeh> ty RAOF
[03:46] <jamin19> whats the package that auto installs flash, java, mp3 etc?
[03:46] <Pelo> lockd, this may help http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/unleashed/
[03:46] <illriginal> poningru... are you talkin about the little icon on the taskbar? if so it's "wired connected"
[03:46] <Acidictadpole> crimsun: yes
[03:46] <lockd> Pelo: oh, /etc/modules
[03:46] <crimsun> Acidictadpole: pastebin ``amixer'', then tell me the url
[03:46] <RAOF> jamin19: ubuntu-restricted-extras, I believe
[03:46] <illriginal> poningru i also have the option for manual settings
[03:46] <dsnyders> cables, I suppose I should bite the bullet and to the UUID thing.
[03:46] <Pelo> jamin19,  restricted extras
[03:46] <Pollywog> I think junker is a car dealer
[03:46] <poningru> illriginal: it doesnt say anything else?
[03:46] <lockd> Pelo: i read the init scripts
[03:46] <junkeR> can't someone help me?
[03:46] <Pelo> junkeR, what with ?
[03:46] <jamin19> is there not a package that auto installs them?
[03:46] <cables> dsnyders, i don't know how to do the UUID thing, so you seem to know more than me :)
[03:46] <lockd> Pelo: so I figure I have added it, we'll se on next boot
[03:46] <junkeR> what with ?
[03:46] <cables> dsnyders, I have to go, anyway, so, yeah.
[03:46] <poningru> jamin19: there is its called restricted something
[03:46] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, what was that all about
[03:47] <Pelo> junkeR,  what do you need help with ?
[03:47] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: I need the output from that command.
[03:47] <jamin19> oh
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, is there no roll back driver option
[03:47] <jamster545> MAN MY COMPUTERS ALL SUCK MAJORLY!
[03:47] <jamin19> haha thanks
[03:47] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: no, there isn't.
[03:47] <poningru> jamin19: go into applications->add/remove-> search for restricted
[03:47] <jacked> dawn_chorus:  if I can get them a .deb grub file then I can have them copy it to the HD and chroot to install
[03:47] <illriginal> poningru I opened up my Netowrk settings and it only shows my two ethernet ports, that's it
[03:47] <poningru> illriginal: hmm
[03:47] <Pelo> junkeR,  I do not take private msg, talk to me in the channel
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, they should have put that in before they decided to release this
[03:47] <poningru> illriginal: pastebin dmesg again
[03:47] <Acidictadpole> crimsun: error while posting to pastebin: Query failure: Can't open file: 'recent.MYI'. (errno: 145)
[03:47] <Acidictadpole> lock tables recent write
[03:47] <zabin> does anyone here know php?
[03:47] <jamin19> poningru: yes got it. appreciate it
[03:48] <crimsun> Acidictadpole: retry it every 30 seconds until it succeeds.
[03:48] <Pelo> zabin,  try #php
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[03:48] <wn> could someone that has dealt with the following grub error help me out, please: Int 14: CR2 c1000000  err 00000002  EIP c03f3c3e  CS 00000060  flags 00010006
[03:48] <dawn_chorus> jacked, i believe there's a grub .deb on the livecd, but I don't recall where it is located on the file tree.
[03:48] <wn> thanks
[03:48] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: uname -r
[03:48] <jtu> poningru: jokosher doesn't look like what i need
[03:48] <jtu> poningru: isn't there something simpler?
[03:48] <Pelo> wn,  try asking in #grub
[03:48] <FFighter> hey guys
[03:48] <Acidictadpole> crimsun: ok, and to add i changed the headphone jack socket, I am on this one getting a bunch of loud static. The static DOES change frequency when i try to run that 'aplay ..' cmd in terminal. however it's still inaudible and the static is quite loud
[03:48] <poningru> jtu: for simple recording video? or just audio?
[03:48] <FFighter> How can I see the downstream/upstream of my dsl connection
[03:49] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, 2.6.20-16-generic
[03:49] <shawn34> need help with qDvdAuthor! Get a file not found error every time i try to create a dvd!
[03:49] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: please use http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/scripts/alsa-info.sh
[03:49] <FFighter> ifconfig ?
[03:49] <Surf24> mzaza; The simplest instructions that I know of are in Linux for non-geeks by Rickford  Grant.
[03:49] <jtu> poningru: both video and audio with a webcam
[03:49] <jacked> dawn_chorus: I've searched the Feisty beta liveCD but I'm not getting anything...  argh
[03:49] <Pelo> FFighter,   sudo apt-get install netspeed  , ;then add it to the pannel
[03:49] <ward__> why is libqt3c102-mt not installable?
[03:49] <crimsun> Acidictadpole: I need the url.
[03:49] <jamster545> anyone have a HD they will give me? yes it is a stupid question, but still
[03:49] <dsnyders> FFighter, I'm not sure on ubuntu, but Fedora uses adsl-status
[03:49] <Acidictadpole> crimsun: still working on it
[03:49] <FFighter> Pelo: Thanks ;)
[03:49] <illriginal> poningru: http://www.pastebin.ca/517464
[03:49] <junkeR> :(
[03:49] <jamin19> poningru: im actually not finding anything
[03:50] <hendrixski> gah!!! my /dev/hda1 partition is full....
[03:50] <hendrixski> I can't install the latest kernel updates! I was struggling with apt for a while, reading through page after page of unrelated google pages ...
[03:50] <hendrixski> now how do I clear out that directory?
[03:50] <bruenig> shawn34, what happens when you use the real dvdauthor
[03:50] <crimsun> hendrixski: probably need ``aptitude autoclean'' for starters
[03:50] <FFighter> dnsyders, Pelo already pointed me out to netspeed... I will try this one :)
[03:50] <Pelo> junkeR, just state your problem
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, these things tend to happen to often for my liking, I was going to recommend for my work place but I think not... Is there any way once I get these things working AGAIN that I can lock them so that nothing can touch them again
[03:50] <hendrixski> crimsun, autoclean.... downloading now
[03:50] <dawn_chorus> jacked, i'm sure that apt cached the .deb on your friends hard drive.  chroot into it and try reinstalling it.
[03:50] <dsnyders> FFighter, But I usually just point firefox at my DSL modem.  It has a web based config page that tells me the speed.
[03:50] <shawn34> bruenig, don't know how. I just saw qdvd in add/remove and decided to give it a try
[03:50] <junkeR> I already did,  I'm just going to search google some more
[03:51] <crimsun> hendrixski: it's not a package; it's a command.
[03:51] <jacked> dawn_chorus: I've already tried that
[03:51] <jacked> no luck
[03:51] <CHORUSS> :
[03:51] <ward__> why is libqt3c102-mt not installable?
[03:51] <hendrixski> crimsun,  ah, that's why apt-cache searhc was empty
[03:51] <shawn34> bruenig, ERR:  Error opening /tmp/Unnamed/Main Menu VMGM_menu.mpg: No such file or directory
[03:51] <hendrixski> crimsun, it has no man entry
[03:51] <bruenig> shawn34, it must not exist
[03:51] <poningru> !webcam | jtu
[03:52] <ubotu> jtu: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:52] <Pelo> ward__, check in synaptic to see if you have the correct package name or if there are issues metionned nt eh properties or someting
[03:52] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: I can't help you if you don't at least give me the URL that that script generates.
[03:52] <poningru> jtu: iirc that lists some software at the end
[03:52] <shawn34> bruenig, i realize that, but it seems to be somthing its supposed to create itself
[03:52] <jtu> poningru: i'll look at it, thansk
[03:52] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, oh, how do I run the script its saved on my desktop
[03:52] <crimsun> hendrixski: ...man aptitude ?
[03:53] <ward__> Pelo, libqt3c102-mt does exist but its not used anymore i believe, but i want to install some software that needs this package
[03:53] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: open a Terminal, then type:  bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[03:53] <ward__> Pelo, i allready got the newer version installed but that does not help
[03:53] <illriginal> poningru, what do you think?
[03:53] <ward__> googling the packagename doestn give me hope
[03:53] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: / Acidictadpole: I'm in a conference call for the next 30 minutes; I'll check back.
[03:53] <jamster545> anyone fluent in Java?
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[03:53] <Pelo> ward__,  throught synaptic and adept you can specify older versions to be installed
[03:53] <Acidictadpole> alright.
[03:53] <poningru> illriginal: do 'lsmod | grep zd12'
[03:54] <ward__> Pelo, what is adept?
[03:54] <poningru> jammer_: not finding what?
[03:54] <Reilithion> Silky is crashing.  Says "** ERROR **: Silky needs threads, your system doesn't support threads."  How do I fix?
[03:54] <Pelo> jamster545,  try asking in #java
[03:54] <ward__> Pelo, and can the old versions be installed next to the new ones?
[03:54] <Pelo> ward__,  package manager in kubuntu
[03:54] <jamster545> i was just wondering if any of you were
[03:54] <hendrixski> crimsun, I ran it ... :-) but then apt-get install -f still failed ... and df -h still tells me that /dev/hda1 is at 100%
[03:54] <illriginal> poningru... I get no response from that?
[03:54] <Pelo> ward__,  I donT' know about that part
[03:54] <ward__> Pelo, i'm in ubuntu studio
[03:54] <poningru> illriginal: hmm that is weird
[03:54] <Pelo> ward__,  then your package manager is synaptic
[03:54] <ward__> Pelo, i know
[03:54] <ward__> Pelo, but does it work with synaptic also?
[03:54] <crimsun> hendrixski: aptitude clean
[03:55] <lockd> anyone else use qemu?
[03:55] <poningru> illriginal: do a 'sudo modprobe zd1211rw'
[03:55] <Pelo> ward__, I said synaptic and adept
[03:55] <lockd> (for running WinXP in particular)
[03:55] <jtu> poningru: mencoder does the trick
[03:55] <illriginal> poningru.. there was a site with instructions.. and i think it made me delete that
[03:55] <ward__> Pelo,  wich was confusing because i didnt know what adept was
[03:55] <jamster545> G2G2 bed... ONLY # DAYS OF SCHOOL LEFT WOO! bye
[03:55] <shawn34> bruenig, is there any other gui app like qdvdauthor that I can use?
[03:55] <bruenig> just use dvdauthor
[03:56] <illriginal> poningru.. i followed this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_4000_%28ZyDas_zd1211b_driver%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[03:56] <Pelo> someone ban jamster545 before he comes back
[03:56] <astomper> !codecs
[03:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:56] <illriginal> and that's where i couldn't download the driver
[03:56] <Paddy_EIRE> !scripting
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scripting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <poningru> illovae: drat iirc in feisty its in automatically
[03:56] <poningru> err illriginal
[03:56] <illriginal> i dunno ><
[03:57] <illriginal> it wasn't workin when i plugged it in ><
[03:57] <Pelo> Paddy_EIRE,  bash scripting start here  http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[03:57] <illriginal> so someone recommended me to use those instructions in order to install the driver
[03:57] <Paddy_EIRE> Pelo, thx
[03:57] <poningru> illriginal: yeah I think you had to restart
[03:57] <cows> hello
[03:57] <Paddy_EIRE> Pelo, what is the win equiv
[03:57] <illriginal> i didn't know ><
[03:57] <poningru> illriginal: hold on
[03:57] <poningru> no harm done
[03:57] <Surf24> mzaza :are u still here?
[03:57] <cows> can someone help me getting my flash drive to boot up with mini.iso feisty
[03:57] <illriginal> hope not
[03:57] <hendrixski> crimsun, that seems to have done the trick... so if I continue to have problems with kernel updates... will aptitude clean fix it every time, or will I eventually have to remove the older kernel images somehow?
[03:57] <Pelo> Paddy_EIRE,  I don't know ask in ##windows
[03:58] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[03:58] <cows> can someone help me getting my flash drive to boot up with mini.iso feisty
[03:58] <poningru> illriginal: do a 'sudo modprobe -i zd1211rw'
[03:58] <illriginal> poningru, no response
[03:58] <dsnyders> Hi all.  What's going on with hda->sda->hda?
[03:58] <cows> can someone help me getting my flash drive to boot up with mini.iso feisty
[03:58] <illriginal> brb
[03:59] <cows> can someone help me getting my flash drive to boot up with mini.iso feisty
[03:59] <dsnyders> cows, try http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/12/usb-ubuntu-tutorial-for-linux-users/
[03:59] <cows> i already tried that
[03:59] <cows> and i also tried the 1 at the ubuntu help
[04:00] <Zoiks> stupid freaking automount :@
[04:00] <dsnyders> cows, what seems to be happening/not happening?
[04:00] <cows> i picked the "Kingston Datatraveler' from the boot menu and it just checks it but goes to grub
[04:00] <poningru> illriginal: thats cool, now do gksudo gedt /etc/modules and add zd1211 to the end of it
[04:00] <cows> if i disable all hdd exept the flash drive it just says plug in bootable media
[04:00] <poningru> illriginal: err zd1211rw
[04:00] <Reilithion> Why does silky think my system doesn't support threads?  "** ERROR **: Silky needs threads, your system doesn't support threads."
[04:00] <carolyn_> i went on an ubuntu haitus shortly after installing and i think i've since forgotten everything i've learned
[04:00] <carolyn_> eep
[04:00] <cows> i formatted the flash drive to fat32 and did syslinux -s /dev/sdb1
[04:01] <cows> before that i sudo apt-get syslinux mtools
[04:01] <poningru> illriginal: and remove that from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:01] <hendrixski> carolyn_, it's like a foreign language... it comes back to you quickly
[04:02] <carolyn_> hendrixski, thanks. i sure hope so. not that i'd learned much...
[04:02] <cows> DSL boots up fine btw
[04:02] <Krazy_> i just installed feisty and i don't see how to set up my wireless connection?
[04:02] <dsnyders> cows, DSL is on the USB drive?
[04:02] <cows> no not atm
[04:02] <poningru> Krazy_: do you see the network manager thing on the top right hand corner?
[04:02] <hendrixski> carolyn_, if you're a visual type of learner then I'd recommend watching a few of the screen-casts to get back in the swing of things
[04:02] <Krazy_> yes
[04:02] <illriginal> poningru: remove this: # The Edgy Eft zd1211rw module does not work in kernel 2.6.17
[04:02] <illriginal> blacklist zd1211rw
[04:02] <poningru> illriginal: yes
[04:02] <poningru> remove that
[04:03] <Surf24> cows; That's because DSL is Damn Small Linux.
[04:03] <illriginal> done
[04:03] <carolyn_> screencasts?
[04:03] <hendrixski> carolyn_, screencasts.ubuntu.com :-)
[04:03] <cows> i know .. lol
[04:03] <carolyn_> thanks!
[04:03] <poningru> Krazy_: click on that do you see any wireless or anything?
[04:03] <cows> im trying to get the mini.iso installer for ubuntu feisty to boot from my flash drive
[04:03] <poningru> brb
[04:03] <cows> so i can install via flash drive
[04:03] <Krazy_> no only wired and modem
[04:03] <hendrixski> carolyn_, they're videos of how to do stuff in Ubuntu, ranging from beginner to intermediate...
[04:04] <drivera90> someone should fix my x server
[04:04] <drivera90> :(
[04:04] <rummik> how do you block modules from loading?
[04:04] <cows> blacklist them
[04:04] <c0llisi0n> I can't seem to get change my laptop's LCD resolution to the proper proper resolution in 7.04.
[04:04] <ubuntu-rocks> dumb question, does this java based irc applet work behind a firewall?
[04:04] <rummik> cows: where's the blacklist file?
[04:04] <carolyn_> hendrixski, thanks. i was just asking for a link. will it still be helpful if i'm in xubuntu now?
[04:04] <c0llisi0n> It defaults to 1024x768 but the LCD screen is 1400x1024.
[04:04] <cows> i think its in the /etc/modules/blacklist or /etc/blacklist
[04:05] <riddlebox> is there a ubuntu version built around E17?
[04:05] <c0llisi0n> And as far as I know, I have installed all the ATI and FireGL drivers.
[04:05] <hendrixski> ubuntu-rocks, you're always behind a firewall in Linux, it's part of the kernel... you mean like a hardware firewall, like a router?  it should
[04:05] <dsnyders> Hi all.  What's going on with hda->sda->hda?
[04:05] <poningru> !e17 | Riddell
[04:05] <ubotu> Riddell: Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[04:05] <poningru> err
[04:05] <undre6k> sup all    Can anyone help me with my login screen resolution
[04:05] <hendrixski> carolyn_, oh.  ummm... maybe somebody made a few xubuntu videos?  I don't recall seeing any though :-(
[04:05] <poningru> !e17 | riddlebox
[04:05] <ubotu> riddlebox: Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[04:05] <rummik> cows: i don't see it there
[04:05] <cows> me neither i jsut checked
[04:06] <poningru> Krazy_: what wifi card are you using?
[04:06] <cows> its been a while i had to blacklist my rt61 module once
[04:06] <cows> let me see if i can get the link
[04:06] <RAOF> dsnyders: It's (old, essentially unmaintained) IDE lib -> (new, shiny) libata -> Whoops, bugs in libata for some drives, use IDE stuff for those drives again
[04:06] <ubuntu-rocks> hendrixski- ok, let me rephrase, can i use this java based irc client behind a corporate firewall like ms isa server, first time using this client
[04:06] <c0llisi0n> Any ideas on how to get my display to the proper resolution?
[04:06] <poningru> !wifi | Krazy_: first you have to check if it works with linux look at this website:
[04:06] <ubotu> Krazy_: first you have to check if it works with linux look at this website:: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:06] <undre6k> sup all    Can anyone help me with my login screen resolution??
[04:06] <rummik> cows: found it /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:06] <cows> ok
[04:06] <cows> yea
[04:06] <cows> me too
[04:06] <poningru> illriginal: let me know when you come back
[04:07] <illriginal> oh im here
[04:07] <cows> i found the topic its called
[04:07] <hendrixski> ubuntu-rocks, oh... that's hit or miss,  try it and find out I guess
[04:07] <cows> HOWTO: RT61 on Egdy Eft with WPA
[04:07] <dsnyders> RAOF, so, are they going to go back to sda again once they get the bugs out?
[04:07] <illriginal> im waitin for the next step poningru after i take off that line from black list
[04:07] <RAOF> dsnyders: Yup.  That's where everything will end up.
[04:07] <hendrixski> ubuntu-rocks, though.. all IRC clients probably go through the same port, and if one works, then it doesn't matter what language it's programmed in, they'll all work
[04:07] <RAOF> dsnyders: This is why Edgy switched to mounting stuff by UUID :)
[04:07] <hendrixski> my best guess at least
[04:07] <poningru> illriginal : just restart the computer with usb dongle plugged in
[04:07] <cows> so snyders did u find anything on making the iso boot up from flash drive?
[04:08] <ubuntu-rocks> hendrixski- tks, how i join another channel, i'm using java irc webchat freenode
[04:08] <illriginal> ok brb
[04:08] <host_> !nvidia
[04:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:08] <cows> lol i tried debian netinstall
[04:08] <ubuntu-rocks> foung the channel i wanted, thanks
[04:08] <cows> its pretty good but to get your nvidia drivers to work
[04:08] <dsnyders> RAOF, What a pain.  Edgy didn't recognize all of my drives.  As such some are UUID, and some are not.  Of course, I can't boot properly when hda is on sda, and vice versa.
[04:08] <cows> haha its bad
[04:08] <hendrixski> ubuntu-rocks, you may be able to do it through a button, or from the dropdown.
[04:08] <Jordan_U> RAOF, And here I thought they did it for usability
[04:08] <hendrixski> ubuntu-rocks, I do it by /join #channel-Name
[04:08] <cows> i just downloaded the server install
[04:09] <hendrixski> ubuntu-rocks, but it's different per client
[04:09] <cows> weird thing is that you can install the server install via alternative cd
[04:09] <RAOF> Jordan_U: That, too :)
[04:09] <ibb> openmosix ever going to be included with this system??
[04:09] <rescon> anyone know anything about getting ubuntu wireless to work on resnet?
[04:09] <strabes> cows: I don't think the server install cd and the "command line system" option on the the alternate install cd are the same thing
[04:09] <cows> yea thats what i thought
[04:10] <RAOF> dsnyders: Well, you can always work out what the uuid of a partition is, although I forget quite how.  Let me check.
[04:10] <rescon> !resnet
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resnet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <cows> but when i started up the alternative cd it said i can type 'server'
[04:10] <Surf24> cows; Does your computer allow th bios option to boot from external UBS?
[04:10] <undre6k> I help on changing my login resolution
[04:10] <cows> yea i can boot up the DSL
[04:10] <dsnyders> RAOF, Usability?  To me, that means leaving my ata drives as hd and my SCSIs as sda, like they were meant to be.
[04:10] <cows> when i had it on my flash drive
[04:11] <RAOF> !uuid > dsnyders <--- Man, ubotu is cool.  Check the PM
[04:11] <clyde> internet connection sharing/routing
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/517485 here is that output
[04:11] <ibb> openmosix capabilities anyone?
[04:11] <clyde> it worked fine for me from live cd now nothing
[04:11] <dsnyders> RAOF, the private message did not come through.
[04:11] <RAOF> !uuid | dsnyders
[04:11] <ubotu> dsnyders: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:12] <RAOF> dsnyders: Heh.  UUID means you need never care.  Particularly, it means that if you ever change what drives are plugged into what controller, it will continue to work.
[04:12] <dr_willis> i just use the ls -l /dev/disks/by-uuid :)
[04:12] <JBLinux> Question: updated from 6.06 to 7.04 / movie player worked fine before / now can't play DVD
[04:12] <tim167> what's a good program to edit webpages (html ... ) ? thanks
[04:12] <Paddy_EIRE> does a computer exist that will run almost any version of linux out of the box
[04:12] <Krazy_> okay thanks its not supported
[04:12] <JBLinux> Totem keeps saying install plug ins...have done all I can find
[04:13] <clyde> can anyone help with internet connection sharing?
[04:13] <dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  most  intel/amd based pcs can do that. :)
[04:13] <bruenig> tim167, vim
[04:13] <ryanakca> is the `talk` command considered a security risk?
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> dr_willis, no they dont
[04:13] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, Any comp from system 76 or Dell's comps that come with Linux pre installed
[04:13] <dsnyders> RAOF, thanks for the link.  What happens when the drive I have for hdb changes? (cold swappable drive tray).
[04:13] <tich> does an analog clock for the gnome-panel exist?
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> dr_willis, most amd/intel pcs I have tried with ubuntu alone have had nothing but problems
[04:14] <cows> ill brb ill try to boot up DSL again see if its a flash drive error
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Jordan_U, system 76
[04:14] <cows> i had I/O errors today
[04:14] <cows> had to reformat my flash drive
[04:14] <cows> :(
[04:14] <cows> brb
[04:14] <Surf24> cows; I don't understand why if you boot from a live cd instal of Feisty you would have trouble installing a version on a USB stick.  Are you choosing the proper install?
[04:14] <LOWER_CASE> Hi, where can I start to find out why updating to Feisty Fawn broke my sound driver?
[04:14] <cows> umm it wouldnt boot up at all from flash drive
[04:14] <RAOF> dsnyders: UUID is (or should be) unique for partitions.  If you stick a different drive in, it'll have a different set of UUIDs.
[04:14] <cows> i use the server and alternative cds
[04:15] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, A company that sells OEM Linux machines ( and has since long before Dell )
[04:15] <Skiff> how can I enabled my Audio (AC97) on NFORCE 2 mobo ? so I have sound in linux ?
[04:15] <cows> brb
[04:15] <lordofthepigs> Hello!
[04:15] <lordofthepigs> It looks like the last kernel update in Feisty screwed up with hda -> sda transition
[04:15] <Cosmo__> are seagate hard drives good and reliable?
[04:16] <ror> yes
[04:16] <lordofthepigs> for some reason, the transition didn't happen for me
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> Jordan_U, wow system 76 are expensive
[04:16] <lordofthepigs> but the configuration files were still changed
[04:16] <tim167> bruenig, i was thinking something more wysiwyg, point-and-click-able :)
[04:16] <ror> tim167, I think bluefish might be that, but I mix up names
[04:16] <lordofthepigs> so all my things now point to sda, sdb ... while my partitions really stills are hda, hdb etc...
[04:16] <ror> but search synaptic for HTML editor
[04:16] <bruenig> bluefish is not point and click I don't believe
[04:16] <ror> you should find something
[04:16] <bruenig> !info bluefish
[04:16] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.7-1 (feisty), package size 1570 kB, installed size 6724 kB
[04:17] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, That's because of the low volume, Dell's are $50 - $100 *cheaper* than the same comps with windows instead of Ubuntu
[04:17] <Skiff> does anyone has that onboard audio (ac97) that they were able to enable? if so how can i do it ?
[04:17] <dsnyders> RAOF, So, I would have to have multiple UUIDs all mapping to the same mount point in my fstab?
[04:17] <cows> ok back
[04:17] <cows> theres def something wrong
[04:17] <bruenig> Skiff, that generally gets detected
[04:17] <cows> now DSL wont boot up
[04:17] <LOWER_CASE> Cosmo__: yes, used 'em for years, but don't install their Disk Manager to the hard drive.  It screws with the boot, and won't be visible if you move the drive to another machine.
[04:17] <Skiff> bruenig, didnt get detected with mine
[04:17] <cows> i wonder if its the syslinux program because last time i tried to boot up DSL i was using syslinux for windows
[04:17] <tim167> ror, thanks there also was yet another one, but i forgot the name, hence my question :)
[04:17] <tich> the gnome clock doesn't do anything nice.  the kde clock has analog and fuzzy.  i would love to have a fuzzy gnome clock but would settle for an analog one.
[04:17] <dsnyders> RAOF, Wait.  Let me read the link you gave me and get back to you.
[04:17] <RAOF> dsnyders: Yes.  Or, just use /dev/hdb, and update that when and if it gets migrated to /dev/sdb
[04:18] <ror> Jordan_U, that's not just because of volume, it's because Dell get paid by ppl like norton etc to put on junk demos and trial software
[04:18] <Skiff> broedj1, can i install drivers manually?
[04:18] <xcd> im looking for a good gtk music plaeyr, what does anyone really like? (besides rhythmbox)
[04:18] <lordofthepigs> It seems that the bugs.ubuntu.com suggests using UUID instead of hda, hdb to name the partitions: How can I find out the UUID of a partition?
[04:18] <Paddy_EIRE> tich, are you running beryl/compiz
[04:18] <dsnyders> RAOF, I hope it's if, not when.
[04:18] <clyde> anyone help me sut up internet sharing network??
[04:18] <cows> idk but recently when i boot up the computer it says like sb: driver write cache
[04:18] <dsnyders> RAOF, just my point of view, of course.
[04:18] <tich> Paddy_EIRE: no. my computer is just a little to slow to run it.
[04:18] <deniel> da
[04:18] <Surf24> cows: I,m assuming that the space you have on the USB is adequate to allow the install in terms of size.   Your not trying a
[04:18] <cows> something related to the sdb
[04:18] <Jordan_U> ror, How does that explain the fact that their Ubuntu comps are cheap too ( cheaper in fact than the junkware ridden windows counterparts ) ?
[04:19] <cows> trying wt?
[04:19] <Paddy_EIRE> tich, oh, you could try gdesklets
[04:19] <cows> its a 2gig stick btw
[04:19] <RAOF> dsnyders: libata is actually maintained :).  You really want your disk subsystem to be maintained :)
[04:19] <tich> Paddy_EIRE: will compiz offer me some hope?
[04:19] <Surf24> cows; A dual boot situation.
[04:19] <tich> Paddy_EIRE: i don't love gdesklets, but maybe for the clock i will have to.
[04:19] <Paddy_EIRE> tich, compiz and beryl let you run cairo clock and that sure is pretty
[04:19] <dsnyders> RAOF, what do you mean by maintained?  Are you talking about smartctl?
[04:19] <cows> hmm
[04:20] <cows> i have been windows free for 2 months
[04:20] <cows> i only have grub and grub has 3 entries
[04:20] <clyde__> anyone help me sut up internet sharing network??
[04:20] <cows> default ubuntu entries
[04:20] <tich> Paddy_EIRE: does it do fuzzy time?  that would make my day.
[04:20] <RAOF> dsnyders: No, I mean "no one is really maintaining the kernel IDE subsystem, and hasn't for some time.  It's old and crusty.  Libata is faster, better, and actively maintained"
[04:20] <tarelerulz> What does vista take to run well, how fast processor and memorie and what does beryl need running at full , see though , cube ?
[04:20] <ror> Jordan_U, Dell are pushing linux'tops because they want it to take off; MS have really pissed them off by saying no more XP licences sold after feb 08
[04:20] <Paddy_EIRE> tich, not sure?
[04:20] <tich> Paddy_EIRE: i would pretty much buy new computer for it!
[04:21] <ror> and I guess advertising can't cover *all* the cost of the windows licenses, but covers a lot of it I guess
[04:21] <strabes_> tich: the KDE clock applet in the toolbar has fuzzy time
[04:21] <dsnyders> RAOF, Ah!  True.  I would like it to be maintained that way... but not if they keep moving my drives on me :-)
[04:21] <clyde__> anyone help me sut up internet sharing network??
[04:21] <LOWER_CASE> updating to Feisty Fawn broke my sound driver: what do I do next to diagnose/fix this. please?
[04:21] <Jordan_U> !sound | LOWER_CASE
[04:21] <ubotu> LOWER_CASE: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:21] <ror> clyde, look up ip masquerade for help with ICS on linux
[04:21] <Surf24> cows:Try a wipe and re-install.
[04:22] <kestri> is there a log file for all of the "update" install information. if so, where is it?
[04:22] <chump> lordofthepigs: use ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ -l to see what UUIDs were associated with what devices.
[04:22] <clyde__> at ubuntu site?
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> I am really finding my time with ubuntu unreliable and will not be recommending this until quite a list of problems have been solved
[04:23] <tarelerulz> I have two gig processor and 512 ram and I run beryl with all the fixing and I would like to know if That is enough to run vista ad full. I want to know if beryl that much better ?
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> should be marked unstable
[04:23] <LOWER_CASE> obutu: thanks: two dialogs appeared, (red no-entry) "The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control." Second one is similar for GStreamer.
[04:23] <clyde> lookup @ ubuntu site?
[04:23] <kestri> same here. i just installed some updates and now i can't boot with the new kernel
[04:23] <ror> vista chokes with less than a gig of ram
[04:24] <Krazy_> so where do i look to see if all my drivers will work before i install
[04:24] <kestri> is there a log file for the updates????
[04:24] <source_> hey everyone
[04:25] <chump> clyde : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 << amazing what google can find.
[04:25] <source_> i got a quick question. i have just got wine and how do install wow<world of warcraft> with it
[04:25] <pp> kestri: less /var/log/dpkg.log for log of updates
[04:25] <clyde> thank you
[04:25] <Hellevator> Paddy_EIRE, Beryl/compiz is still in Beta. Its expected that it will not work perfectly
[04:25] <kestri> thanks
[04:25] <kestri> pp: thanks
[04:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Hellevator, i was talking about the os in general, who mentioned beryl
[04:26] <tarelerulz> When you get beryl working right is great. I think is is well worth it.
[04:26] <Hellevator> Paddy_EIRE, oh you mentioned it a couple messages ago i thought thats what you were referring to.
[04:26] <smokestack> hey guys -- is there a way to mount ISO files from feisty?
[04:26] <Jordan_U> !iso | smokestack
[04:26] <ubotu> smokestack: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:27] <smokestack> jordan_U: thanks
[04:27] <melman101> Hey all. I installed the newest kernel, and now my sd card is close to working. when i put in a card i get a /dev/mmcblk0 but it still won't mount (mount -t vfat /dev/mmcblk0 /mnt/sdcard) It's a Ricoh R5C822 SD Card Reader built into a laptop (Dell D420). Any suggestions? I plugged in my USB SD card reader and it mounted automagically.
[04:27] <source_> can anyone help me get wow install to ubuntu 6.10
[04:27] <Jordan_U> smokestack, np
[04:27] <kestri> what is the name of the boot loader file and where is it located?
[04:28] <Jordan_U> kestri, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:28] <kestri> Jordan_U, thanks
[04:28] <Jordan_U> kestri, What are you trying to do?
[04:29] <kestri> Jordan_U, when I update my Ubuntu some stuff got lost and screwed up. Now I can't boot into windows
[04:30] <sdf> hi how can i change bootscreen?
[04:30] <Jordan_U> kestri, Is the option not there in the menu when you boot or does it just not boot?
[04:30] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, you there??
[04:30] <sdf> i mean the first screen that appear when i start the computer
[04:31] <hanasaki> how do i restart had?
[04:31] <rummik> is pidgin in the repositories yet?
[04:31] <hanasaki> hald?
[04:31] <rollerskatejamms> Is there a place I can find a list of the differences between the server and generic kernels?
[04:31] <sdf> why anyone want help me?
[04:31] <cows_> hmmm
[04:31] <Surf24> Surf24 signing off nite al;l.
[04:32] <cows_> cya
[04:32] <cows_> wow
[04:32] <sdf> i mean why no one
[04:32] <cows_> idk wathappen i think my xchat froze
[04:32] <cows_> and i didnt receive any messages
[04:32] <Jordan_U> rummik, No, but there is a .deb for it a getdeb.net
[04:32] <PurpZeY> My network manager just frozen up and killed itself, but I am still connected to the net, can someone just give me the command to reopen it via term? or via gui?
[04:32] <sdf> why no one want help me?
[04:32] <eliasz> hi guys, i was wondering if ubuntu server comes with rsync and rdiff by default, i need to setup some backups from multiple windows and OSX machines(just a few files not entire disk), and i want the backup server to run linux, and have found some good howto's on backing up using rsync
[04:32] <kestri> Jordan_U, the option isn't there. The other weird thing is that I can't boot into kernel version 2.6.20-15-generic since it hangs when loading devices, i am using kernel 2.6.20-15-generic right now. I'm pretty sure it was fine before... that or I was using -15 the whole time
[04:32] <Jordan_U> PurpZeY, nm-applet &
[04:33] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask | sdf
[04:33] <ubotu> sdf: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:33] <kestri> Jordan_U, sorry. i meant to say that -16 hangs
[04:33] <cows_> ok so anyone knows why my flash drive wont boot
[04:33] <cows_> ?
[04:33] <cows_> can installing grub to the MBR mess up flash drive booting?
[04:33] <Jordan_U> cows, No
[04:33] <drivera90> can anyone link me to feisty alternative install torrent?
[04:33] <sdf> paddy_etre how can i change boot screen?
[04:33] <lockd> cows_: check the boot order
[04:33] <cows_> i only have 1 boot order
[04:34] <tarelerulz> Hay guys what is the just chat part of ubuntu?
[04:34] <cows_> i have 3 slots but i disabled # 2 and #3
[04:34] <cows_> and only left #1 to the hdd
[04:34] <Jordan_U> cows, Unless you installed it to the MBR or the flash drive of course
[04:34] <cows_> i usually just
[04:34] <cows_> press F8 for boot menu
[04:34] <defjux> tarelerulz: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:34] <cows_> and select the flash drive
[04:34] <sdf> paddy_etre i mean the first screen that appear when the computer start
[04:34] <cows_> i do same thing for booting the CD ROM and it works
[04:34] <Jordan_U> tarelerulz, What do you mean by "just chat part" ?
[04:35] <riddlebox> what is a good gnome app to pull photos off of a digital camera
[04:35] <defjux> i have a concern, i want to install windows on a partition, but i want to be able to boot ubuntu afterward. i am running feisty and have a dapper cd.
[04:35] <PurpZeY> Jordan_U: I ran that command, but then the applet dies when I shut the term, what do I add so it stays running?
[04:35] <tarelerulz> I mean I don't want help I just wanted to talk about my love of Ubuntu
[04:35] <Paddy_EIRE> sdf, I am not to sure on how to change the grub boot splash, try google for a bit
[04:35] <defjux> tarelerulz: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:35] <Jordan_U> PurpZeY, You put the "&" at the end?
[04:35] <lockd> defjux: you will have to reinstall grub to its partition
[04:35] <EADG> sdf: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82835
[04:35] <lockd> defjux: err, to the MBR
[04:36] <PurpZeY> Jordan_U: nm-applet &
[04:36] <defjux> lockd, ok am i going to be able to run ubuntu to do that?
[04:36] <defjux> what is mbr?
[04:36] <sdf> EADG thank you very much
[04:36] <Jordan_U> PurpZeY, run screen then run nm-applet
[04:36] <lockd> defjux: use a Live CD
[04:36] <cows_> do you have to have windows installed so that syslinux works since syslinux is working with the windows fat partition
[04:36] <dsnyders> defjux, you could install vmware or qemu and run windows in an emulated environment
[04:36] <lockd> defjux: it's GRUB, easy to do that.. lilo is a bit tricky because of where its conf is
[04:36] <PurpZeY> Jordan_U: Yup, that did it, thanks. What does screen do?
[04:37] <ward__> if i install something with checkinstall, does it automatically generate a .deb ?
[04:37] <defjux> dsnyders: not enough ram atm
[04:37] <tonyy> poningru: Could you do some LVM handholding?  I'm on the Live CD now.
[04:37] <defjux> thanks bbl :)
[04:37] <dsnyders> defjux, Yeah,  Same here.  There must be an epidemic or something :-)
[04:37] <kestri> does Ubuntu log restarts anywhere? that would help me a lot right now
[04:38] <lockd> defjux: just mount /path/to/bootpartition /boot, then do grub-install /dev/hda (or whatever the first HD is)
[04:38] <drivera90> can anyone link me to feisty alternative install torrent?
[04:38] <Jordan_U> PurpZeY, It creates a new shell which is independent of shell you start it with, so you can run screen again from another terminal and use it to "reconnect" to that shell ( useful for ssh among other things )
[04:38] <Paddy_EIRE> could anyone help me get my sound working AGAIN without pointing me to !alsa
[04:38] <tonyy> !torrents | drivera90
[04:38] <ubotu> drivera90: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/ (DVDs)
[04:39] <ward__> if i install something with checkinstall, does it automatically generate a .deb ?
[04:39] <host_> how do I get X to use a better refresh rate
[04:39] <Jordan_U> ward__, Yes
[04:39] <host_> it won't go over 54 hz
[04:39] <cows_> host_: edit the xorg.conf
[04:39] <ward__> Jordan_U, thanks
[04:39] <Jordan_U> host_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:39] <ward__> Jordan_U, in the current dir i presume?
[04:39] <host_> Jordan_U, I just did that
[04:39] <pegel-linux> beryl dodolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[04:39] <tonyy> /ignore #ubuntu joins,parts,quits
[04:39] <lockd> ward__: it can make whatever package type you want - but in reality it only generates .debs
[04:40] <kestri> I guess what I meant to say if does Ubuntu log times of start-ups, restarts, and shutdowns anywhere?
[04:40] <host_> and I edited the vertical sync and horizontal refresh and it's still the same
[04:40] <ward__> lockd, thats good because i want a deb if this works :-)
[04:40] <Jordan_U> ward__, I think so, it also installs the .deb it creates automatically I believe
[04:40] <dsnyders> kestri, try /var/log/dmesg
[04:40] <ward__> Jordan_U, ok thanx
[04:40] <kestri> dsnyders, thanks
[04:40] <lockd> ward__: that is a handy tool, never heard of it
[04:40] <illriginal> poningru... still don't see anything with my wireless connection
[04:41] <Pollywog> how do I get into GRUB when the machine boots, isn't it with the esc key?
[04:41] <host_> cows_, what am I looking for it it?
[04:41] <host_> int it*
[04:41] <ward__> lockd, me neither untill earlyer today :-)
[04:41] <Pollywog> I edited fstab but I get "Error 22"
[04:41] <cows_> host_: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:41] <ward__> lockd, its in synaptic, and u just type sudo checkinstall instead of make install
[04:41] <dsnyders> kestri, You may also want to look at /var/log/messages
[04:41] <cows_> host_: scroll down to screens
[04:41] <Hellevator> I just wanted to say that I just bought a macbook online :)! But not to worry I'm still going to run linux on my desktop.
[04:42] <Jordan_U> Pollywog, Yes, it is with the escape key
[04:42] <lockd> ward__: thought it was sudo checkinstall make install
[04:42] <Pollywog> Jordan_U: ty it does not work
[04:42] <Jordan_U> Hellevator, Ubuntu runs great on Macbooks :)
[04:42] <ward__> lockd, well sudo checkinstall worked here
[04:42] <cows_> host_:actually go down to 'monitor'
[04:42] <Jordan_U> Pollywog, What happens instead?
[04:42] <ward__> Jordan_U, how does it run on power-pc macs?
[04:42] <cows_> host_: i think your looking for the vertrefres
[04:42] <cows_> host_: and sync
[04:43] <ward__> Jordan_U, i mean a macbook also
[04:43] <host_> cows_,  it's VertRefresh	56-76
[04:43] <ward__> Jordan_U, with 512 ram
[04:43] <Pollywog> nothing it just stalls with error 22 right after the version of GRUB shows
[04:43] <harry_> are there free/open eterprise content management systems for linux?
[04:43] <Jordan_U> ward__, Fairly well, it's not officially supported though ( macbook is not PPC though )
[04:43] <host_> cows_, but it's still only allowing me to go to 54 hz
[04:43] <ward__> Jordan_U, i mean a laptop :-)
[04:43] <host_> I didn'ty restart, I just killed X and let it reboot after I made the change
[04:43] <redcard> harry_: About a billion of them
[04:43] <cows_> host_,  hmm weird try what jordan said to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:43] <redcard> harry_: Whatcha looking for?
[04:43] <ward__> Jordan_U, i'm not into mac myself, but a friend has one, i'm thinking of installing him ubuntu when hes back from japan
[04:43] <kestri> actually, I was looking for a log file of multiple times of start-ups, shutdowns, and restarts. Not just information on what happened during the last one.
[04:44] <ward__> Jordan_U, i thought it was supported, only oldworld macs arent?
[04:44] <Jordan_U> ward__, It used to be, but they recently dropped PPC support
[04:44] <ward__> and he has the last generation of power-pc macs
[04:44] <ward__> Jordan_U, why? :s
[04:44] <redcard> ward__: Small numbers of users
[04:44] <Jordan_U> ward__, Probably had to do with Apple switching to intel
[04:45] <ward__> redcard, they don't give me the chance to get them some more users ! :p
[04:45] <c0llisi0n> So I followed the ATI FireGL guide and even consulted the troubleshooting guide.
[04:45] <c0llisi0n> My ATI FireGL doesn't seem to be recognized by Ubuntu.
[04:45] <harry_> redcard: Actually, not too much. I want a system that will organize all of my files (such as the stuff I do for school), and ECM is kinda overkill, but I like overkill.
[04:45] <c0llisi0n> Well, I can't seem to configure it at least.
[04:45] <ward__> Jordan_U, yeah but many people have a fairly modern ppc-mac...
[04:45] <Pollywog> I think the problem is the mbr
[04:45] <neil_feisty> !shipit
[04:45] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[04:45] <acidblue> apple should of switch to amd
[04:45] <redcard> ward__: Well,unfortunatly for all the "good" that apple's products have.. they certainly make it hard to use different OSs
[04:45] <dsnyders> kestri, I don't think that info is logged by default, apart from /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/messages
[04:45] <Jordan_U> ward__, They still have builds for PPC, it just isn't officially supported
[04:45] <Pollywog> just shipit - sounds like a song
[04:46] <will__5> hello
[04:46] <ward__> redcard, lol i don't liek apple either, but still
[04:46] <redcard> harry_: Oh.. hmm.
[04:46] <ward__> redcard, those poor users are ripped off, and now they cant even run ubuntu :p
[04:46] <Pollywog> nothing it just stalls with error 22 right after the version of GRUB shows  - I think it is the mbr
[04:46] <redcard> ward__: I liked apple, until I realized that liking apple made me an elitist jerk.
[04:46] <c0llisi0n> I tried to run aticonfig but it always ends with the message: Found firegl primary device section Nothing to do. Terminating.
[04:46] <Pollywog> how can I fix my mbr without a reinstall?
[04:46] <Jordan_U> ward__, On PPC though you basically can't use anything proprietary, so depending on the person that may not be acceptable
[04:46] <Zoiks> if anyone has any ideas about auto mounting and or ipods please have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2739499
[04:46] <rollerskatejamms> Pollywog, boot off the live cd and grub-install
[04:46] <ward__> redcard, i don't like the apple hardware at all, the OS is allright
[04:46] <Zoiks> thanks
[04:47] <Pollywog> rollerskatejamms: ty I will have to download the live cd
[04:47] <ward__> redcard, in fact i had the OS running on my laptop :p
[04:47] <rollerskatejamms> Zoiks, My ipod didnt work until I installed the updates from the proposed repo
[04:47] <ward__> just to test out
[04:47] <redcard> ward__: The OS is blah.  They basically take Opensource ideas and pretend like it's something they came up with
[04:47] <dsnyders> kestri, you could always write your own scripts and tie them in the init.d and event.d processes.
[04:47] <c0llisi0n> Anyone have any recommendations on getting my FireGL to work?
[04:47] <rollerskatejamms> Pollywog, Yeah, installed windows second didjya?
[04:47] <Pollywog> no
[04:47] <rollerskatejamms> c0llisi0n, Replace it with an nvidia card
[04:47] <Zoiks> rollerskatejamms: please give me more details?
[04:47] <Pollywog> that is not it
[04:47] <harry_> redcard: Also, something that would hep me learn to use things that would be useful later on (like SQL databases or something) would be good.
[04:47] <illriginal> Anyone know if the new update is safe to download and install?!?!
[04:47] <c0llisi0n> *LOL* It's on a laptop.
[04:47] <kestri> dsnyders, it appears that there are multiple logs for dmesg which kind of helps. I'm just curious. I a dmesg file written for both start-up and shutdown, or just one or the other?
[04:47] <Pollywog> I moved paritions around
[04:47] <rollerskatejamms> Zoiks, the proposed repository has a bunch of hal updates
[04:47] <Pollywog> partitions
[04:48] <rollerskatejamms> Zoiks, seemed to fix it
[04:48] <Zoiks> how do i get that?
[04:48] <c0llisi0n> Anyone got any ideas?
[04:48] <ward__> redcard, lol its stable and it works, thats what an OS should do
[04:48] <c0llisi0n> Could I uninstall the ATI drivers, then attempt a re-install?
[04:48] <lockd> which is harder, building (cross-compiling) for a new CPU architecture or a new GPU?
[04:48] <pwnguin> anyone know the "Right" way to bring a newer kernel to feisty? i'd like to try out some newer features in 2.6.21, but i dont know what all patches against vanilla ubuntu uses that i need for my laptop =/
[04:48] <redcard> ward__: It unnerved me when I discovered that Ubuntu offers me more than Apple :)
[04:48] <ward__> redcard, everyone stole the window interface from the OS that first used it (wichever that is)
[04:48] <c0llisi0n> The ATI drivers popped up in the restricted drivers, I enabled it, and it doesn't seem to do anything.
[04:48] <dsnyders> kestri, As far as I know (which ain't that far) it is just the startup.  However, there should be clues in /var/log/messages about shutdowns.
[04:49] <ward__> c0llisi0n, what did u expect? :p
[04:49] <c0llisi0n> ward_, what do you mean? ;)
[04:50] <c0llisi0n> I'm experimenting with Ubuntu for now... I want to get it working on the laptop before I go out and put it on a custom desktop.
[04:50] <rollerskatejamms> God I love linux. I'm running my laptop with a constant load of 5 and 80% cpu usage for the last 6 hours with no problem. just chugging right along
[04:50] <ward__> c0llisi0n, u installed display drivers, its normal, it should look just like before, only now u use other drivers
[04:50] <c0llisi0n> And of course, I don't think I'll be putting an ATI card in the damn thing. ;)
[04:50] <redcard> ward__: It's kinda different now.  I mean, being an apple fan meant I had to pretend that Apple's "innovations" were new
[04:50] <c0llisi0n> It used to work though. The resolution is too small for the screen.
[04:50] <redcard> But, anyway, back to linux
[04:50] <fogwar> hey i have java installed but its not working with firefox?
[04:50] <ward__> redcard, apple doesn't innovate :-)
[04:51] <rollerskatejamms> fogwar, install the mozilla plugin
[04:51] <rollerskatejamms> fogos, its in the repositories
[04:51] <nickrud> redcard, that was xerox iirc
[04:51] <fogwar> rollerskatejamms: yeah but the plugin isnt available
[04:51] <fogwar> rollerskatejamms: from mozilla webvsite?
[04:51] <redcard> nickrud: It was.
[04:51] <Zoiks> rollerskatejamms: i enabled the proposed repository im now downloading all the updates
[04:51] <lockd> just realized there was aptitude command, pretty handy
[04:51] <cables> isn't opera in the commercial repo?
[04:51] <ward__> c0llisi0n, didn't you need to restart after enabling the restricted drivers?
[04:51] <rollerskatejamms> fogwar, no, sun-java6-plugin is the name of the package
[04:51] <nickrud> although someone did a wood mouse in the late sixties
[04:51] <rollerskatejamms> Zoiks, It *could* break the system though
[04:51] <Zoiks> is that all you had to do or did you have to install specific things rollerskatejamms
[04:52] <rollerskatejamms> Zoiks, thats all i had to do. and once you install the updates, DISABLE the proposed repository. you dont want to keep getting those.
[04:52] <Zoiks> ok
[04:52] <rollerskatejamms> pwnguin, well once they gpl it, main probably
[04:52] <pwnguin> rollerskatejamms: what's left?
[04:52] <rollerskatejamms> pwnguin, no idea.
[04:52] <Zoiks> it did not look like it downloaded anything to do with hal though rollerskatejamms
[04:52] <lockd> rollerskatejamms: GPL what?
[04:52] <pwnguin> rollerskatejamms: im pretty sure they declared themselves done at java1
[04:52] <rollerskatejamms> lockd, java
[04:53] <rollerskatejamms> Zoiks, well thats what fixed it for me, thats all i know man. you might be having a different issue
[04:53] <lockd> rollerskatejamms: oh, all I have installed is the default java (which is gnu classpath afaict)
[04:53] <vwov> what's up with this http cache cleaner script, how do i disable it?
[04:53] <pwnguin> lockd: from what i can tell, gnu classpath is aiming to fold shop and work on official java
[04:54] <lockd> pwnguin: you mean, still staying closed source?
[04:54] <pwnguin> lockd: what?
[04:54] <Zoiks> rollerskatejamms: it did not work, thanks anyway
[04:55] <lockd> pwnguin: is sun java staying closed source
[04:55] <pwnguin> lockd: ...no?
[04:55] <sldkfj> what's hpiod in the netstat?
[04:55] <fogwar> rollerskatejamms: yeah but im still not getting it to work
[04:56] <Lapinux> guess i will have to install from my 6.10 cd, damn 7.04 gives an error
[04:56] <llol> hello folks
[04:56] <Cosmo__> I am building a new computer(AMD 64 x2, 2 Gforce 7300 in SLI) it has been awhile since I built a system on power supplys is there any special features/stats I should be looking for? also will a 600W be enough?
[04:56] <defender> Is there some handy program (gui or CL) to list the properties (size, file system) of all my physical drives? Too many SDAs...
[04:57] <chainlynx> Cosmo__: more RAM = better
[04:57] <Hellevator> Cosmo__, you need to make sure the power supply supports SLI
[04:57] <llol> anyone know how would go by on reducing the password size from 6 to 5 letters?
[04:57] <enoex> 600w should be fine, wouldnt go much less since you're using 2 vid cards
[04:57] <RAOF> Cosmo__: Woah!  600W?  That'll certainly be enough :)
[04:57] <Hellevator> no, for SLI you definitely need 600W
[04:57] <Gnea> RAOF: for SLI?
[04:57] <llol> probably more
[04:57] <Cosmo__> chainlynx: yeah planning on going with 3gig of ram
[04:57] <sldkfj> I've got 'hpiod' 'cups' & 'python' in the netstat.  Just asking, "what is 'hpiod?'"   (Don't be afraid, we won't get off into a 25 minute argument.)
[04:57] <llol> cards each nowadays require at least 315 minimum
[04:57] <enoex> yeah...wouldnt go much less than 600w prolly
[04:58] <llol> thats for one card
[04:58] <RAOF> Ok, maybe I'm a little bit out of date.  Still, gfx cards top out at ~100W each, right?  Especially non-ultra-top-of-the-line cards, like the 7300.
[04:58] <Gnea> sldkfj: HP's driver daemon
[04:58] <llol> even those
[04:58] <llol> 300 watt minimum
[04:58] <enoex> better to have more than not enough
[04:59] <llol> once they start suckin juice if the voltage to the memory drops during load
[04:59] <dsnyders> Is there a tool for editing/regenerating fstab entries now that it uses UUIDs, or is it a cut/paste job?
[04:59] <sldkfj> gnea, is that the plugnplay thingy?
[04:59] <Cosmo__> 600W is the lowest I plan on going just wasn't sure if I needed more
[04:59] <llol> you have a crash
[04:59] <Gnea> !sli
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <llol> get between 700 to 800
[04:59] <llol> to be safe
[04:59] <Gnea> oops
[04:59] <linuxnoob> i had probems to install kubuntu vom boot cd -if i click on start/install kubuntu i become that "kernel alive - kernel direkt mapping tables to .......... " message and than i had a blackscreen and nothing is doing
[04:59] <llol> do the math every fan counts 30 watts here and there add up
[05:00] <Gnea> Scan Line Interleaving, a technique for using 2 or more 3D processors in parallel. Each processor renders a little part of the scanlines in the final image. Gives you more fps.
[05:00] <RAOF> ...as long as the drivers support it.
[05:00] <llol> hey peeps anyone know how to reduce the password size?
[05:00] <RAOF> Also, that's not how it works now :)
[05:00] <Gnea> RAOF: it's nvidia, they support it.
[05:00] <llol> hehe old school 3dfx technology
[05:00] <llol> :0)
[05:00] <Cosmo__> and in some cases can out preform a single high end card (depending on the situation)
[05:01] <RAOF> Gnea: Yeah, but for the programs you want to run?  Last I heard (which was *some* time ago), the nvidia drivers had to explicitly support SLI with the app you wanted to use
[05:01] <llol> 3dfx was the first to do that stuff
[05:01] <spacx> Hello everyone.  Does anyone know if you can still access windows files after installing ubuntu (not dual booting)
[05:01] <llol> yep
[05:01] <pwnguin> lockd: http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/java/
[05:01] <spacx> how?
[05:01] <RAOF> spacey: Yes.  Check out the private message from ubotu
[05:01] <Gnea> RAOF: and you heard this from where?
[05:01] <RAOF> !ntfs-config > spacx
[05:01] <redcard>  Access, yes.  Execute, not so much
[05:02] <spacx> can you save it?
[05:02] <RAOF> Gnea: From like, the internets.  Fairly reputable sites, I think (hardocp, anandtech?)
[05:02] <eX|Hoser> guys, whats the best repo to sign onto?
[05:02] <Gnea> sldkfj: er, no, hpoid detects and handles the communication for the printer, so that it can pass I/O to cups, so that you can... print :)
[05:02] <RAOF> spacx: Yes, you can read/write to windows files.
[05:02] <Gnea> RAOF: please, show me a url.
[05:02] <eck> eX|Hoser: what do you mean?
[05:02] <RAOF> Gnea: I can't.    Google to the rescue!  http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2358&p=21
[05:05] <RAOF> Gnea: Still, a somewhat old link :)
[05:05] <pwnguin> if you want more info, i suggest /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-new/README.txt.gz
[05:05] <spacx> Ubuntu was installed over windows.  Is it possible to recover those old windows files?
[05:05] <RAOF> fogwar: Do you have the firefox java plugin installed.
[05:05] <RAOF> spacx: If it's on the same partition, no.
[05:05] <Gnea> spacx: sure
[05:05] <Gnea> RAOF: yes, he can.
[05:06] <pwnguin> that'd be some strong magic
[05:06] <fogwar> raof: i apparantly cant find it for somer eason ive downloaded a few things
[05:06] <eck> spacx: if it was on the same partition, your best bet would be to reformat the partition as fat and trya  fat recovery tool
[05:06] <redcard> How does one install Ubuntu over Windows?
[05:06] <spacx> Thank You
[05:06] <pwnguin> redcard: delete the partition table and give the whole disk to ubuntu ;)
[05:07] <pwnguin> but your chances for data recovery are... not so good
[05:07] <RAOF> Gnea: Really?  If he's installed Ubuntu on the same partition as windows was?  At best, he'll recover some fraction of his files.
[05:07] <Gnea> pwnguin: not really, as long as it wasn't zero'd out before being repartitioned, the data will still remain on the platters.
[05:07] <tonyy> I need help resizing LVM partitions.  Can't even get started, sadly.
[05:07] <RAOF> Yeah, but quite a lot will have been overwritten.
[05:07] <Gnea> RAOF: true, it's a matter of chance
[05:07] <pwnguin> Gnea: and after ubuntu was installed? that's a lot of files that are definately not zeros
[05:07] <redcard> Gnea: For all intents and purposes, a general user is not going to get their data back after doing that
[05:07] <RAOF> tonyy: It's nice and easy.    Every time I install a new prog, the icons are missing in the gnome menu.. Any advice?
[05:08] <redcard> We can talk about technical possibility, but, that's pretty irrelevent with end users
[05:08] <tonyy> RAOF: "No program "lvextend" found for your current version of LVM"