[12:32] <TrapperDave> When Amarok starts I get the error message "Xine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers". How can I fix this?
[12:33] <ere4si> kaps: that tells me the os found the cd but couldn't make it work...
[12:33] <chazco> The drive was encrypted ages ago, but all editions are supposed to be compatible anyway
[12:33] <beebeentu> i did google search but don't see other people with same problem.
[12:33] <kaps> ere4si : yeah I agree, but then isnt there any way?
[12:33] <Drahy> So channel with some rights and so? And the manuals are complicated for me what i have to do exactly pls :-)
[12:33] <ere4si> kaps: take the cd out and give it a gentle wipe
[12:33] <beebeentu> Does anyone encounter this problem with firefox crashing?
[12:34] <ac1d> Ubuntu and ipod please help! what can i use?
[12:34] <EnvoyRising> zackie_: /join #zackies_house
[12:34] <chazco> Firefox crashes a lot when on Youtube or sites with moving flash etc
[12:34] <erUSUL> !ipod | ac1d
[12:34] <ubotu> ac1d: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[12:34] <TrapperDave> ac1d: I've been advised that Amarok is really useful for iPod and Ubuntu usage.
[12:34] <Dudenumerone> hi dudes make money on http://www.biggestboom.com/ref.php?user=Bigbam
[12:34] <Dudenumerone> hi dudes make money on http://www.biggestboom.com/ref.php?user=Bigbam
[12:34] <beebeentu> chazco: but mine crashes when I open three windows
[12:34] <ere4si> kaps: as a check - get a cd that you know works and see if that auto mounts or can be mounted
[12:34] <__Oz__> HALLO UBUNTU FRIENDS!
[12:34] <chazco> Nope, dont get that often
[12:34]  * faileas takes away __Oz__ 's sugar ;p
[12:34] <beebeentu> Can you help me with that problem?
[12:35] <gcj> kbrooks, thanks
[12:35] <kaps> ere4si: I did that and it works, I mean another cd
[12:35] <tarelerulz> Have any of you had program not pic up you mic at all? Is that normal
[12:35] <ere4si> kaps: so it is only the one cd?
[12:35] <faileas> hmm
[12:35] <zackie_> EnvoyRising: and this solves....?
[12:35] <faileas> isn't ubuntu supposed to automount a windows drive in a dualboot automatically?
[12:35] <chazco> kbrooks - Copying from the new HDD to a truecrypt partition on the other PC works fine (same files, as a test)... so i'm guessing its the USB HDD thats faultyy
[12:36] <chazco> It is several years old
[12:36] <beebeentu> Hello. Can someone help me with firefox crashing problem
[12:36] <kaps> ere4si: yeah, gentle wipe didnt help
[12:36] <kaps> ere4si: I forgot to tell you its not a cd its a dvd
[12:37] <kaps> ere4si: shouldnt  make any difference though?
[12:37] <kbrooks> chazco, wel, get everything off the usb hdd and reformat the hdd, maybe it'll resolve itself after you reformat
[12:37] <chazco> Considering that now
[12:37] <ere4si> kaps: then boot into windows - copy the data to somewhere you know then reboot into ubuntu and copy it over - as a solution
[12:37] <Lacrymology> has anyone been able to mount their PSP to ubuntu?
[12:37] <ere4si> cd - dvd is the same os wise kaps
[12:37] <thew00> hi, any1 know anything about network bonding? pls qry me
[12:38] <beebeentu> Okay. Can someone help me with DVD codecs? I follow instructions but it still doesn't work
[12:38] <kaps> ere4si: hehehe, that I will , but just wanted to know if there is any bug
[12:38] <EnvoyRising> zacki_: you said you wanted your own room, right?
[12:38] <erudified> Is there a channel for hardy?
[12:38] <ere4si> kaps: from what you say the bug is in the one cd...
[12:38] <kbrooks> erudified, #ubuntu+1
[12:38] <kaps> ere4si: anyway thanks a lot
[12:39] <ere4si> k lots of luck kaps
[12:39] <beebeentu> Can someone help me plese
[12:39] <Mushrooms> Hi guys, a quick question, When i open up the synaptic package manager, in the left hand side there is a section which has labels All, Installed, Installed (auto removal) and not installed. What does "Installed (auto removal)" mean?
[12:39] <EnvoyRising> !ask | beebeentu
[12:39] <ubotu> beebeentu: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[12:39] <erudified> Thanks krbrooks!
[12:39] <kaps> ere4si: thanks, and is there any channel called #python?
[12:39] <kbrooks> kaps, yes
[12:39] <john___> Hi guys. How can I find out exactly what processors I have? I just know its a pentium d but I need the number.
[12:39] <kbrooks> kaps, without the ?
[12:40] <ere4si> kaps: yep try /j #python
[12:40] <EnvoyRising> python...how you taunt me so
[12:40] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising: can you help me with my problem? Firefox keep crashing when I open three windows
[12:40] <erUSUL> john___: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:40] <Odd-rationale> john___: lspci?
[12:40] <john___> thanks!
[12:40] <nasamo> Hi guys I have the same problem Bebeentu has. My firefox queeps freezing....
[12:40] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, it means that you removed package X, and when X was installed, it needed certain other packages. but since X is removed, these certain other packages are unnecessary
[12:40] <EnvoyRising> beebeentu: run firefox from command line, open the three windows so that it crashes, then paste the error in paste.ubuntu-nl.org so that we can all help you
[12:41] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: so is it ok if i uninstall them? or should i keep them?
[12:41] <kaps> kbrooks : I cant login
[12:41] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, double check to make sure it's okay
[12:42] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, with something like gtkorphan
[12:42] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: is there a way that i can check for dependencies?
[12:42] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, um, apt-cache rdepends <package> for that case
[12:42] <john___> guys, I tried both those commands but I still dont know if my pentium D is say a 9xx or an 8xx. Any more suggestions?
[12:42] <kaps> ere4si: it saysyou need to be identified
[12:42] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising: I just try but it doesn't crash properly. The 2 window open go gray. and no error message come up on terminal
[12:43] <ere4si> !register | kaps
[12:43] <ubotu> kaps: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[12:43] <kbrooks> kaps, yes, /msg nickserv register <password>
[12:43] <TrapperDave> I've just tried starting Amarok for the first time since reinstallation and it hangs on the splash screen. How can I fix it?
[12:43] <ac1d> did you know that if you freeze a puppy and shove a stick in it somewhere, then you can sell it in mexico under the name Puppsicle
[12:44] <john___> Just had an idea, maybe the bios will tell me.
[12:44] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: the list is small... so i guess i can do that. which leads me to my next question, Say i required package X, and package X dependened upon package Y, so when i use synaptic package manger, it installs both X and Y. Now, when I want to get rid of X, does the dependency still hold? and remove Y as well?
[12:44] <idyllic> john___: sudo lshw
[12:44] <gnari> hello folks. i want to print onto a printer connected by USB to a windows machine on my network. the printer is a EPSON stylus pro 3800, which is not listed by the system-config-printer.py applet under System->Administration menu. i tried selecting epson stylus pro 5000, but no luck.
[12:44] <idyllic> -.-;; he just left..
[12:44] <gnari> is this unlikely to work, or am i almost there?
[12:44] <kaps> thanks
[12:45] <Pici> ac1d: This is a support channel, if you just want to say random things, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place.
[12:45] <Pici> ac1d: Keep in mind our Code of Conduct as well (/msg ubotu coc)
[12:45] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, yes
[12:45] <ariyako> hi
[12:46] <leitao> hello. What is the name of the package which contains the syscall man pages?
[12:46] <imc1> gday everyone. Running 7.10, and despite the warning that it could happen, I turned on "special" graphics including the "make desktop workspaces a cube" and it clobbered my multiple desktops. Can anyone help me find them and get them back?
[12:46] <ariyako> wonder why my internel  card reader not working
[12:46] <ariyako> :D
[12:46] <EnvoyRising> beebeentu: hmm... well, i guess you could check your system log...
[12:46] <EnvoyRising> find that under system > admin > sys log btw
[12:47] <EnvoyRising> hopefully something useful in thee
[12:47] <EnvoyRising> there*
[12:47] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: so, if i were to invoke apt-cache redepends <package name> and it gave me a list, it would mean that the packages in the list needs this particular package?
[12:47] <tarelerulz> I am trying to use EKiga .   My problem is the sound don't seem to work. It can't read my mic . I know the mic works . and the sound on my system works so  . Can any one help me
[12:47] <__Oz__> HALLO UBUNTU FRIENDS!
[12:47] <ariyako> Feb 19 20:47:48 X-12 kernel: [ 3901.941491] usb 5-8: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 78
[12:47] <dubcat> hi folks - ive given up trying to get my mic working on my Dell D630 laptop :(
[12:48] <jpatrick> !repeat > __Oz__
[12:48] <jpatrick> !caps > __Oz__
[12:48] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, rdepends means reverse depends. so if X depends on Y (which is what depends will show), rdepends on Y will show X
[12:48] <dubcat> i bought myself a plantronic usb headset - do i just plug it in?
[12:48] <__Oz__> jpatrick: easy, brother, easy.  Just jubilation in the mornin', my friend.
[12:48] <imc1> dubcat - you should be able to, yes
[12:48] <dubcat> imc1 cheers - ill do that now.
[12:48] <jpatrick> __Oz__: you've said it at least twice tho, and #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place :)
[12:49] <imc1> So any help here for me with my multiple workspace drama?
[12:49] <__Oz__> Just twice, actually, and only by mistake.  And now all this discussion over it is more off-topic stuff by approximately 300% than if you'd simply left it alone. :)
[12:49] <__Oz__> imc1: let's hear the problem.  I will try to help.
[12:49] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, so feel free to infer away
[12:49] <imc1> I'm running 7.10, and despite the warning that it could happen, I turned on "special" graphics including the "make desktop workspaces a cube" and it clobbered my multiple desktops. Can anyone help me find them and get them back?
[12:49] <imc1> Thanks _Oz_
[12:49] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: I see, that means that if i got a list for rdepends, then i probably should leave that package alone >.< ok, thanks for your help ^-^
[12:49] <__Oz__> Describe the problem in detail, sir.
[12:49] <Gothfunc> what's the best reasonably priced wireless mouse to get?
[12:49] <EnvoyRising> __Oz__: thats why i handle all my off-topic ramblings in ubuntu-offtopic, lol
[12:49] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, no
[12:50] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, you're ... errr, wrong
[12:50] <__Oz__> EnvoyRising: excellent idea!
[12:50] <imc1> _Oz_ - I thought I just did ;)
[12:50] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: hahaha ok, then what should i be thinking?
[12:50] <tuna> so, I wanna install ubuntu on a machine where ubuntu cannot recocgniz the cd drive, and where I cannot have a web connection. How should I do it?
[12:50] <__Oz__> How am I supposed to figure out what "multiple workspace drama" means, imc1?
[12:50] <imc1> No, I posted this:
[12:50] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, well, wrong as in "think again, you probably jumped to conclusions"
[12:50] <imc1> I'm running 7.10, and despite the warning that it could happen, I turned on "special" graphics including the "make desktop workspaces a cube" and it clobbered my multiple desktops. Can anyone help me find them and get them back?
[12:50] <imc1> After that :)
[12:50] <__Oz__> oh.  sure.
[12:51] <dubcat> imc1 i think they want to know what clobbered your desktop means.. can you see any windows etc?
[12:51] <kbrooks> ok, bye
[12:51] <imc1> dubcat, thanks,
[12:51] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: sorry?
[12:51] <__Oz__> Open the "Advanced Graphics Manager" or whatever it's called.  (Not in front of an ubuntu machine right now, so bear with me.)
[12:51] <EnvoyRising> __Oz__: lmao.. its when one workspace's girlfriend finds out about the other workkspace's baby's mama and they start to argue
[12:51] <faileas> tuna: do you have some way of getting files in?
[12:51] <imc1> What iI mean is that iI now have only one desktop workspace not four
[12:51] <Viktorious> hi how do i remove an app
[12:51] <__Oz__> The same interface where you set up the spinning cube.
[12:51] <imc1> and I cannot seem to add any new ones
[12:51] <knifepoint> Gahhhhhhhhhh i thought NVIDIA was meant to be strides above ati in the drivers stakes why is it i cant get my 7600GS out of vesa mode
[12:51] <__Oz__> Click on the "general" tab.
[12:51] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, thats why i also said to double check with deborphn
[12:51] <EnvoyRising> Viktorious: sudo apt-get remove <package name>
[12:51] <Odd-rationale> imc1: Right click the workspace switcher
[12:51] <dubcat> imc1 go to system/preference/advanced desktop settings
[12:51] <__Oz__> Find the number of vertical and horizontal desktops.  Set the horiz. number to the desired amount.
[12:51] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, and/or gtkorphan
[12:52] <dubcat> imc1 in there you can disable cube etc and renable the desktop wall
[12:52] <__Oz__> imc1: that applies to you as well.
[12:52] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: i understand. which one do you recommend? for a newbie
[12:52] <imc1> dubcat,  Odd-rationale, and _Oz_ thanks, trying
[12:52] <Odd-rationale> imc1: Do you have compiz on or off?
[12:52] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, gtkorphan
[12:52] <faileas> tuna: if your HDD is partitioned already, you could use wubi to make an image install, the LVPM to move it over... you'll need to get wubi-installer and the disk on the HDD with windows tho
[12:52]  * __Oz__ loves compiz
[12:53] <imc1> Ofdd-Rationale - sorry how would I know?
[12:53]  * Odd-rationale does not like compiz
[12:53] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: great thanks for your help!
[12:53] <tuna> faileas: I have plenty of unpartitioned space
[12:53] <dubcat> if he has cubes he must have compiz on right?
[12:53] <TrapperDave> Does anyone have any experience with Amarok? Mine just freezes on the splash screen
[12:53] <faileas> tuna: and i assume a windows partition?
[12:53] <imc1> Interesting that I don't have System>Preferences>Advanced Desktop Settings.
[12:53] <faileas> (i hope, else it gets REALLY tricky)
[12:53] <dubcat> ahh you didnt install compiz fusion im guessing
[12:53] <tuna> faileas: how do I use wubi if the machine doesn't have a web connection
[12:53] <EnvoyRising> TrapperDave: you running kde?
[12:53] <dubcat> how did you enable cubes exactly?
[12:53] <Odd-rationale> imc1: Go go System --> pref --> appearance and see if visual effects are enabled
[12:54] <erUSUL> !ccsm | dubcat
[12:54] <ubotu> dubcat: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[12:54] <TrapperDave> I'm running Ubuntu 7.10 with GNOME I think. I only started using Linux like a week go so it's all very new to me.
[12:54] <imc1> Ah
[12:54] <tuna> faileas: yes, a windows partition and I can get the cd and wubi to that machine
[12:54] <__Oz__> Odd-rationale: that's an...  odd rationale to have.  Why don't you like compiz?  It's really super!
[12:54] <imc1> Yes they are; it says "Normal"
[12:54] <EnvoyRising> if no one here can help you, #kubuntu may be more helpful
[12:54] <Viktorious> can someone help me with wine noone in wine room is doin anyhtng pathetic
[12:54] <__Oz__> trapperdave: yeah, I use it...  no freezes though.
[12:54] <EnvoyRising> wine...**cringes**
[12:54] <faileas> tuna: wubi can use a CD image you downloade already if its in the same partition. I suggest the 7.10 version. Use that to do an install to the SAME DRIVE as windows
[12:54] <tuna> Viktoroius: what is the problem?
[12:54] <EnvoyRising> sure Viktorious what do you need?
[12:55] <TrapperDave> Thank you EnvoyRising.
[12:55] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising: I looked but which section? syslog? it doesn't show anything for last 30 mins
[12:55] <Viktorious> i wanna know why it always installs on windows partition rather then linux one
[12:55] <tuna> faileas: ok
[12:55] <faileas> tuna: then boot into wubi and install LVPM (you'll need to copy this over too) and use that to move it to another partition
[12:55] <__Oz__> Question: are viruses at all a problem for Linux?  I don't run an anti-virus proggie in Ubuntu.  Should I?  I've always believed Linux to be far more secure against that sort of tripe.
[12:55] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: I liked it when I first started using linux. But that kind of wore off...
[12:55] <faileas> tuna: so all you'll need is a 1 gig USB drive prettymuch ;)
[12:55] <Odd-rationale> !virus | __Oz__
[12:55] <ubotu> __Oz__: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[12:55] <EnvoyRising> beebeentu: dang..i'm trying to get a more descriptive explanation of whats going on with your firefox
[12:55] <Axioplase> Hi
[12:55] <__Oz__> Odd-rationale: I mostly like the cube and the ability to flip through windows in big/easy to read ways
[12:56] <Gothfunc> does no one have any advice on a wireless mouse purchase?
[12:56] <__Oz__> Thank you, Odd-Rationale.
[12:56] <K-Ton> Hi all
[12:56] <Axioplase> What package contains the javac command? (how can I find this out?)
[12:56] <erudified> Gothfunc, there's really no such thing as a good wireless mouse imo
[12:56] <erudified> I've yet to try one that didn't have a very noticable delay
[12:56] <__Oz__> Odd-Rationale: the system certainly runs a bit faster withOUT compiz
[12:56] <Viktorious> i wanna know why it always installs on windows partition rather then linux one wine that is
[12:56] <__Oz__> but I'm a sucker for that slick presentation
[12:56] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: I still have it installed to "show-off" to my windows friends. :) Other than that, I keep it off for everyday computing.
[12:56] <__Oz__> Viktorious: because that is how wine works.
[12:56] <erudified> __Oz__, I think it *feels* a lot faster
[12:56] <faileas> Viktorious: are you sure its the windows partition? ;p
[12:56] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising: I open one window, I open a second window. Everything okay. I open three window and the window don't open. Then a few seconds more the two windows go gray
[12:56] <idyllic> axioplase: sun-java6-jdk
[12:56] <__Oz__> Odd-rationale: yeah, I can understand.
[12:57] <__Oz__> erudified: I'm with you.
[12:57] <tuna> faileas. thank you very much
[12:57] <Axioplase> thanks
[12:57] <Viktorious> pretty sure always takin my c drive
[12:57] <Gothfunc> erudified: mine seems fine there, but it just runs out of batteries after about an hour
[12:57] <dubcat> I have a plantronics USB headset - it's working fine - but how do i change the volume of this thing? the volume control on the lead is not work and im using skype with it fyi
[12:57] <faileas> tuna: its a bit time consume tho
[12:57] <erudified> Gothfunc, yeah there's just no way to win lol
[12:57] <Viktorious> so what happen when i sign bak in on windows partiton em i gonna have the games interfierring
[12:57] <faileas> Viktorious: no
[12:57] <erudified> I've never used one long enough to run out of battery, and I've bought quite a few of them
[12:57] <tuna> faileas: k, that's not a problem, not my time :)
[12:57] <faileas> wine's c drive is a folder
[12:57] <Viktorious> so it isnt realli going on my other hardrive
[12:58] <faileas> no
[12:58] <ArthurArchnix> Hey... anyone here actually use apparmor? I know it's installed by default, but I don't think it's actually doing anything. "sudo apparmour_status" returns that the module is loaded, but there are zero profiles and zero processes in use.
[12:58] <faileas> it isn't
[12:58] <Gothfunc> erudified: what price range did you go for?
[12:58] <Viktorious> oh thank god so when it comes up c drive program files dsnt matter
[12:58] <|Dreams|> has nayone managed to get virtual box to use a dvd writer
[12:58] <erudified> Gothfunc, I've gotten everything from the tiny $5 ones to the $60 logitech ones
[12:58] <erudified> I still use a MS Intellimouse Optical (with cord) from about 2000
[12:58] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising: if it help, Epiphany work fine with many more windows than 3
[12:59] <erudified> But your mileage may vary
[12:59] <erudified> the delay (and some people have told me they don't notice it) just drives me insane
[12:59] <Viktorious> faileas: so c drive program fiels is wines little thing not acttully my other harddrive
[12:59] <faileas> Viktorious: ...
[12:59] <faileas> YES
[12:59] <Gothfunc> erudified: i might not notice it i guess
[12:59] <unicum> is there anything like a cool equalizer for rhythmbox.. or for the whole system?
[12:59] <Viktorious> haha ok thanks heaps
[12:59] <faileas> its a folder on your linux drive
[12:59] <unicum> running ubuntu 7.10
[13:00] <faileas> erudified: MS makes great peripherals ;p
[13:00] <erudified> yeah the damn mouse just won't die lol
[13:00] <Odd-rationale> Viktorious: You can find you wine "C:\" in ~/.wine/drive_c
[13:00] <EnvoyRising_> not sure what qualifies as cool, but off the top of my head, there's alsa mixer, unicum
[13:00] <Gothfunc> i'd rather not buy microsoft hardware tbh
[13:01] <Gothfunc> it'd feel like funding terrorism
[13:01] <Gothfunc> ;o
[13:01] <unicum> EnvoyRising alsa mixer is not really an equalizer, is it? i mean it just does the volume level.. but nothing like treble, bass.. you know
[13:01] <Odd-rationale> My computer is from MS...
[13:01] <imc1> dubcat,  Odd-rationale, and _Oz_ thanks, that worked all is well. Have a good day
[13:01] <faileas> Gothfunc: *shrug* i go for whatever works for me ;p
[13:01] <Odd-rationale> imc1: You, too
[13:01] <erudified> hahah, well, I figure if my hand is gonna spend some significant portion of it's time on a device, it may as well be one that I like
[13:01] <bsdnewb07> hmm guys ive installed ubuntu when i type i sudo su   i get the error my username is not in the sudorers file a log has been created and then i get a postfix error :/
[13:01] <erudified> try sudo -s
[13:01] <erudified> sudo su is kinda silly
[13:01] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_: Did you see my messagesss? Please let me know if you can't help me more.
[13:01] <bsdnewb07> k
[13:02] <erudified> but be careful with sudo -s, it'll change the perms of e.g., your .vimrc file
[13:02] <EnvoyRising_> i didn't see your last messages beebeentu got disconnected
[13:02] <shingouz> ideas where to find things like tun-source, bcm4400-source, thinkpad-source and madwifi-source? looks like the fresh ubuntu does not like to let me compile the modules because the source keeps on missing
[13:02] <faileas> Odd-rationale: MS builds PCs?
[13:02] <bsdnewb07> whats sudo -s do?
[13:02] <rsa_md5> hi, the network manager applet has been behaving strange lately, i am using an atheros chipset wifi NIC....it gets disconnected from the network and yet the icon does not change.....i am using 7.04
[13:02] <EnvoyRising_> bsdnewb07: !man
[13:02] <erudified> bsdnewb07, it gives your current shell root privileges
[13:02] <Gothfunc> erudified: you make it sound even dirtier with the ms mouse
[13:02] <Gothfunc> ;)
[13:02] <Pici> shingouz: apt-get source packagename
[13:02] <EnvoyRising_> !man | bsdnewb07
[13:02] <ubotu> bsdnewb07: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[13:02] <bsdnewb07> but only if your in the sudoers file tho?
[13:03] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_:I open one window, I open a second window. Everything okay. I open three window and the window don't open. Then a few seconds more the two windows go gray
[13:03] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising: if it help, Epiphany work fine with many more windows than 3
[13:03] <Odd-rationale> faileas: No, I didn't mean that. I just has a "MS Asset" sticker on it. It really belongs to my dad - A MS employee.
[13:03] <shingouz> Pici: i know about that, i just seem to be missing the sources. in other words: repositories do not seem to have them
[13:03] <faileas> Odd-rationale: ahh ;p
[13:03] <EnvoyRising_> how fast of a processor and how much ram do you have beebeentu
[13:03] <EnvoyRising_> ?*
[13:03] <EnvoyRising_> and why 3 windows?
[13:03] <bsdnewb07> EnvoyRising i run fine in 256
[13:03] <faileas> Odd-rationale: MS employy's kid using linux? !!! ;p
[13:04] <Isoplast> hey
[13:04] <Odd-rationale> faileas: Shhhh.
[13:04] <shingouz> Pici: ..and now that i remember, they are all enabled in sources.list
[13:04] <bsdnewb07> but id imagine 32mb ram would work, linux isnt fussy on ram like windows is
[13:04] <faileas> lol
[13:04] <Isoplast> can someone help me ?
[13:04] <Pici> shingouz: You need to make sure that you have the deb-src repositories for each of your normal deb lines
[13:04] <nanobytes> got detected that my boot linux it on /dev/hda2... and from my grub menu.lst, the root  is (hd0,1). is this right?
[13:04] <Pici> !offtopic | faileas Odd-rationale
[13:04] <ubotu> faileas Odd-rationale: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:04] <Isoplast> how do i enlarge the head of a window?
[13:04] <EnvoyRising_> usually if it goes grey it means its got too much to think about... unless theres a bug i'm unaware of or something
[13:04] <shingouz> eugh... sources.list is filled with comments :p
[13:04] <EnvoyRising_> don't think i have any more ideas though, beebeentu
[13:05] <faileas> bsdnewb07: XP works on as little as 64. lowest i've gone in ubuntu is 192, but thats cause i'm not that familair with it.  The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[13:06] <manchicken> Much thanks.
[13:06] <Isoplast> ?
[13:06] <Pici> Odd-rationale: Firestarter is just a front end to iptables (which exists on a default install)
[13:06] <Isoplast> :D
[13:06] <manchicken> Damn, that's the fastest I've ever gotten an answer in here.
[13:06] <manchicken> heh
[13:06] <Isoplast> my window is broken
[13:06] <Odd-rationale> Pici: Yes.
[13:06] <shingouz> Pici: main, universe, restricted and multiverse are all enabled for both deb and deb-src. done apt-get update too
[13:06] <Isoplast> can someone explain me how to change the size of the windowhead?
[13:07] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_: oh and it work fine with edgy install on this machine for 1yr+ until upgrade today
[13:07] <Pici> shingouz: Give me a package name that you can't get the source for, I want to take a look.
[13:07] <shingouz> thinkpad-source, madwifi-source, tun-source Pici
[13:07] <EnvoyRising_> beebeentu: wow. def. more going on than i know how to help with. sorry about that
[13:08] <Pici> shingouz: Are you doing: apt-get source tun-source? or apt-get source tun?
[13:08] <Isoplast> hey guys
[13:08] <Isoplast> please
[13:08] <Isoplast> :D
[13:08] <Isoplast> help me!
[13:08] <Isoplast> im loosing my mind
[13:08] <cleaton> window head?
[13:08] <Pici> Isoplast: You need to explain your question better, I dont think anyone knows what you are talking about.
[13:08] <Odd-rationale> Isoplast: I don't get what you want to do...
[13:08] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_: Do you know other  person I can talk to? No one helps unless I break etiquette rules to get attention. I don't like that
[13:09] <Isoplast> i mean
[13:09] <Isoplast> the window
[13:09] <erudified> beebeentu, well, you could offer some cash ;)
[13:09] <Pici> !enter
[13:09] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[13:09] <Isoplast> if you open firefox for example
[13:09] <jim_beam> I have not been able to install e17 (enlightenment) anyone have success?
[13:09] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_:to who
[13:09] <Isoplast> you have a headtab
[13:09] <Isoplast> wich you can drag and drop
[13:09] <Pici> Isoplast: Please don't use enter as punctuation.
[13:09] <bsdnewb07> ive trid sudo -s
[13:09] <Kase1> is there some problem with the internet today? i cant reach www.google.de(no dns resolve) or paypal.com an cnn.com (no ping reply)
[13:09] <Isoplast> ok sorry...
[13:09] <EnvoyRising_> beebeentu: well the problem is that the issue you are having is a bit unique. its not so general in nature, so its likely that if you aren't getting answers now, you'll have to wait for another time. then. google is pretty good too..lemme see something
[13:09] <bsdnewb07> i enter my password, says its not in the sudoers file
[13:10] <bsdnewb07> and an error has been logged then sendmail creates an error
[13:10] <bsdnewb07> or postfix
[13:10] <cleaton> Isoplast, you want to resize a window?
[13:10] <Kase1> other pages are ok
[13:10] <Isoplast> if you open firefox, you have a titlebar, wich you can also drag and drop. i only want to resize the titlebar, because it is very small...
[13:10] <bsdnewb07> whats the ubuntu default admin password?
[13:10] <erudified> Kase1, U.S. Special Forces have been systematically disconnecting the eastern hemisphere in preparation for establishing global hegemony
[13:10] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_:I tried google before come here. I don't find nothing but I don't really know what search words to use.
[13:11] <Pici> !root | bsdnewb07
[13:11] <ubotu> bsdnewb07: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:11] <EnvoyRising_> beebeentu: i'm trying too. maybe you ddint' have the right keywords. only thing i can suggest is trying a newer version of firefox
[13:11] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, use your normal user passwd with sudo
[13:11] <cleaton> Isoplast, i think you need to change theme to do that. you have the default theme?
[13:11] <Kase1> im in germany? ok its east of us but,
[13:11] <Isoplast> cleaton jep
[13:11] <bsdnewb07> k dkd
[13:12] <bsdnewb07> i did
[13:12] <bsdnewb07> it says shellhosts the username i added during setup does not exist in the sudoers file
[13:12] <EnvoyRising_> btw. do you have a lot of extensions beebeentu?
[13:12] <Odd-rationale> Isoplast: I think I know what you're talking about. I know it is possible, just don't remember how. Try playing with some stuff in Appearance
[13:12] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_: I never know how to upgrade to latest version on linux. I have <IP_ADDRESS>. I remove all extensions.
[13:12] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, new install?
[13:12] <bsdnewb07> yeh Brownster
[13:13] <dubcat> ahh i found my USB headset volume issue at launchpad
[13:13] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, r u using the a/c created at install
[13:13] <cleaton> Isoplast, system -> preferences -> appearance -> customize -> window boarder
[13:13] <EnvoyRising_> beebeentu: to be honest, i never upgrade. i just backup and do clean installs
[13:13] <bsdnewb07> yeh Brownster
[13:13] <bsdnewb07> it lets me login file
[13:13] <bsdnewb07> fine*
[13:13] <erudified> dubcat, hehe, you remember when getting support for USB anything was a crapshoot?
[13:13] <dubcat> :)
[13:13] <erudified> Time marches on...
[13:13] <dubcat> yah -
[13:13] <Brownster> and u sure u didnt create any other a/c?
[13:14] <Isoplast> odd-rationale, ok... but the funny thing is, that i never changed the setting... when i started up the computer it just appeared like this
[13:14] <bsdnewb07> 100%
[13:14] <bsdnewb07> ive even done the reinstall to make sure
[13:14] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_:That's what I do
[13:14] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, well do you have a live cd?
[13:14] <bsdnewb07> nah it wasnt live cd i used
[13:14] <bsdnewb07> it was the server based version
[13:14] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_:I mean upgrade from Edgy to Gutsy but I do clean install.
[13:14] <bsdnewb07> the text based installer
[13:15] <cleaton> Isoplast, your window boarders suddenly got smaller?
[13:15] <EnvoyRising> oh. well either way i don't have anything else to try, sorry about that
[13:15] <Isoplast> cleaton jep ! :D
[13:15] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, not sure if server version would be different in way it uses sudo,
[13:15] <Pici> Isoplast: Do have even *any* window borders?
[13:15] <bsdnewb07> i just dont get it
[13:15] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, one way around the problem ...
[13:15] <shingouz> Pici: sorry, phone....
[13:15] <Isoplast> pici yes, i still have it, but the font is very small
[13:15] <bsdnewb07> yeh?
[13:15] <EnvoyRising> hey, does anyone know of a destop environment other than gnome, kde, and xfce? i know of plenty of windows managers, but no other de's
[13:15] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_: Thanks for trying.
[13:16] <cleaton> Isoplast,  oh so it's just the font that is small?
[13:16] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, get any live cd and boot using that, into a live cd environment. mount the root partition of ubuntu anywhere you like, then edit the sudoers file
[13:16] <Trashlord> hello
[13:16] <Isoplast> cleaton, no, the bar has also got smaller
[13:16] <shingouz> Pici: apt-get source tun and apt-get source tun-source both error out "cannot find a source package for tun[-source]"
[13:16] <Trashlord> I have a problem with my sound card
[13:17] <cleaton> Isoplast, the bar gets samller if you change the font
[13:17] <Trashlord> See, my sound card is a Creative Labs, EMU 1212m
[13:17] <bsdnewb07> heck
[13:17] <Trashlord> It's not detected at all
[13:17] <bsdnewb07> and they say ubuntu is easy lol
[13:17] <__Oz__> Whomever gave me this link: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[13:17] <__Oz__> Thank you.
[13:17] <cleaton> Isoplast, go to system -> preferences -> appearance -> fonts  and change window title font to maybe 10px
[13:17] <Isoplast> cleaton, and how do i change the font back to the default setting?
[13:17] <__Oz__> That's a very good read.  Now I understand why Linux is Virus-inhospitable.
[13:17] <Trashlord> I found a driver, which should work, but I can't compile it
[13:17] <chubby_sby> i have prob wit gyachy,handme please?
[13:18] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, well I dont know why u have this problemo, I haven't come across it before, perhaps it is to do with the server install,worth reading the install docs for clues?
[13:18] <cleaton> Isoplast, tell me if that helped
[13:18] <bsdnewb07> k
[13:18] <Trashlord> I've also downloaded the new version of ALSA, but when I do ./configure on it, it's telling me my C compiler cannot create executable files
[13:18] <Isoplast> cleaton, no it didnt... its already set on 10px
[13:18] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, at least u dont _need_ to reinstall :)
[13:18] <cleaton> Isoplast, try making it larger then
[13:19] <Viktorious> does anyone in here use xvidcap
[13:19] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, worth checking something, what does $ groups give you, are u in the admin group?
[13:19] <Isoplast> ah
[13:19] <Isoplast> now it worked
[13:19] <Isoplast> thank you a lot !
[13:19] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, might be 'adm'
[13:19] <Trashlord> Anyone?
[13:19] <cleaton> Isoplast, no problem =)
[13:20] <bsdnewb07> what do you mean
[13:20] <Pici> shingouz: Are you sure that those are proper package names? The only one that I can see that should work is thinkpad-source (but in that case, its just a regular package)
[13:20] <jim_beam> e17 sources directory please  forums seem not to work
[13:20] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, check what groups 'you' belong to, in a terminal type 'groups'
[13:20] <cleaton> Trashlord, you got all the dependences?
[13:21] <Trashlord> I need to get stdio.h
[13:21] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, u should get a list that includes 'adm' or maybe 'admin'
[13:21] <shingouz> Pici: apt-get install thinkpad-source "cannot find package thinpad-source" and the same with all the others too. even modules-assistant reports the same
[13:21] <Pici> Brownster: its 'admin'
[13:21] <Trashlord> I'm trying to install emu10k1
[13:21] <Trashlord> it requires that
[13:21] <Trashlord> do you know where can I get it?
[13:21] <Trashlord> googled, found nothing
[13:21] <Brownster> thanks Pici
[13:21] <Pici> !compile | Trashlord
[13:21] <ubotu> Trashlord: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[13:22] <Trashlord> Thanks
[13:22] <jim_beam> :( they don't like me here
[13:22] <shingouz> Pici: they should be the proper names.... i *could* do a straight compile from raw sources but i am not really in a mood for htat kind of screwing around this time
[13:22] <Pici> shingouz: I ask because I dont see them at all.
[13:22] <jim_beam> :) either that or im invisible
[13:22] <Trashlord> Woah dude
[13:23] <Trashlord> Thanks a lot, I just found I required a major dependency
[13:23] <Trashlord> Which I didn't have
[13:23] <bsdnewb07> its admin
[13:23] <bsdnewb07> does the user admin have a default password?
[13:23] <shingouz> Pici: so it is not only me this time... hmm... tun i absolutely need, acx100, ipw2200, madwifi and thinkpad would be nice
[13:23] <Pici> bsdnewb07: There is no admin user.
[13:24] <bsdnewb07> well when i installed ubuntu it said i couldnt have the user admin because it was taken by the system
[13:24] <Pici> shingouz: Have you looked in the kernel sources?
[13:25] <Dave_is_sexy> where do you get the live cd from?
[13:25] <Dave_is_sexy> It is not easy to find
[13:25] <Pici> Dave_is_sexy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[13:25] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, yes it's used as a 'group' name, hence users can be given membership of the admin group, then using sudo and entering your normal user password u can execute commands as 'root' or group 'admin', its the ubuntu way
[13:25] <Pici> Dave_is_sexy: The DesktopCD is the LiveCD
[13:25] <dubcat> when i run alsamixer in a terminal it always shows me the details of my Intel sound card - how do i get it to show me my USB soundcard built in to my headphone cord?
[13:25] <shingouz> Pici: iirc they all are external thingies. at least thinkpad, madwifi and tun are
[13:26] <dubcat> more specifically i know its the -c or -D flags but i dont know how to find the name of those devices
[13:26] <Pici> shingouz: Then I'm not really sure, sorry :/
[13:26] <shingouz> ..unless, of course, ubuntu does things differently.... ;)
[13:26] <Dave_is_sexy> pici: but that's not live
[13:26] <Pici> Dave_is_sexy: Which isnt?
[13:26] <Dave_is_sexy> any
[13:26] <Pici> Dave_is_sexy: The Desktop Edition is the LiveCD
[13:27] <Dave_is_sexy> oh
[13:27] <shingouz> Pici: the funny thing is that modules-assistant knows them by those names but it cannot find the sources. could they be in repositories for older releases?
[13:27] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, if you are in the 'admin' group like you say you are, you should be able to execute any command $sudo foo bar, and enter your password , thats it!
[13:27] <roddersg> anyone knows how to recover files from a hd that has been formatted to ext2 accidentally?
[13:27] <Dave_is_sexy> will it ask me to push a key or select 'start from cd' cos the machine it's needed for is keyboardless
[13:28] <Pici> shingouz: They are probably in the linux-restricted-modules or linux-ubuntu-modules packages for your kernel.
[13:28] <faileas> roddersg: testdisk will allow you to restore anything on the original partition that wasn't overwritten
[13:28] <Odd-rationale> Dave_is_sexy: Depends on you bios settings
[13:28] <Dave_is_sexy> ...which is why it's needed as a distro which includes an on screen keyboard and ntfs-3g driver
[13:28] <daaniel[1]> i have created this 4 TB partition with parted and and set label to GPT, then i format it with ext3 and use the filesystem, this works great until i reboot, then the filesystem show up with "?" instead of "rwx" and the messages log says it contains error - why is this happening every time?
[13:28] <Dave_is_sexy> good, my bios is set to boot from cd without question
[13:28] <Desert_Storm> How can i execute Warsow? I got the 0.41, i need to execute ''warsow.i386''
[13:28] <shailender_> Red Hat and Ubuntu Linux Top Enterprise Open-source Software
[13:28] <reto_> hi
[13:28] <reto_> during an hd-installation
[13:28] <shailender_> http://crazy4computers.blogspot.com/2008/02/red-hat-and-ubuntu-linux-top-enterprise.html
[13:29] <shingouz> Pici: restricted modules installed but tun. thinkpad and madwifi are all fully gpl... strange
[13:29] <reto_> I get the error message 'base-installation/no_codename'
[13:29] <Pici> !offtopic | shailender_
[13:29] <ubotu> shailender_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:29] <reto_> is there an eassy way to get this fixed?
[13:29] <Odd-rationale> Dave_is_sexy: The live cd will boot the Live environment if nothing is pressed after 30 secs.
[13:29] <shailender_> http://crazy4computers.blogspot.com/2008/02/red-hat-and-ubuntu-linux-top-enterprise.html
[13:29] <roddersg> faileas, how long will the recovery take
[13:29] <Dave_is_sexy> :)
[13:29] <daaniel[1]> when i then run e2fsck i get Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt! Abort<y>? ...
[13:29] <faileas> roddersg: it isn't very fast,
[13:30] <Desert_Storm> How can i execute Warsow? I got the 0.41, i need to execute ''warsow.i386''
[13:30] <ccasey> has anyone had their apt-get update fail recently?
[13:30] <reto_> during an hd-installation I get the error message 'base-installation/no_codename'
[13:30] <Odd-rationale> ccasey: Try Aptitude
[13:30] <reto_> it seems to be unable to find the right version/codename
[13:30] <dubcat> ooooooh i found a gnome bug with alsamixer!
[13:30] <reto_> any idea how to fix that?
[13:30] <dubcat> or more specifically - ppl are complaining that their usb headset volume control is not working - but its a gnome issue in fact!
[13:30] <faileas> Desert_Storm: try ./warsow.i386?
[13:31] <roddersg> faileas, major oops happenning
[13:31] <__Oz__> Why don't we just use aptitude for everything?  It's so much better than apt-get.
[13:31] <shingouz> Pici: make-kpkg modules_image begins to sound a nice idea with some pure raw sources off the net
[13:31] <__Oz__> Or does aptitude only work with certain packages?
[13:31] <Desert_Storm> ./warsow.i386: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:31] <nanobytes_> i need a little help pls... to remove grub error 18, am planning to install again ubuntu using the livecd in manual mode.. coz they said that my boot partition is bigger to my bios thats why i wanna used the manual mode in installation
[13:31] <faileas> roddersg: i did it once, testdisk fixed it but i basically left it overnight after the inital stages
[13:31] <ccasey> )dd-rationale - it hangs here Get:235 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-backports/multiverse Sources [2264B]
[13:31] <ccasey> 99% [20 Packages bzip2 0]
[13:32] <roddersg> faileas, I think the directory section and the beginning part got wiped out
[13:32] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Yes you can use aptitude instaed of apt-get for about anything. Just remember that ssynaptic uses apt-get
[13:32] <ccasey> with aptitude as well as apt-get
[13:32] <faileas> roddersg: i once reformatted a disk TWICE and got everything back
[13:32] <Desert_Storm> Faileas, i got the error: ./warsow.i386: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:32] <faileas> give it a shot, its good stuff
[13:32] <Odd-rationale> ccasey: Have you retried?
[13:32] <ccasey> yes
[13:32] <faileas> Desert_Storm: install livcurl
[13:32] <__Oz__> Odd-Rationale: why doesn't synaptic switch to aptitude?
[13:32] <faileas> Desert_Storm: install libcurl
[13:32] <Desert_Storm> Where can i get it_
[13:32] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Dunno
[13:32] <daaniel[1]> is it because im using ext3 filessytem with parted??
[13:33] <dubcat> i suppose i should share my bug findings on launchpad and not here right?
[13:33] <__Oz__> And I still don't "get" what makes synaptic better than add/remove.
[13:33] <Pici> dubcat: yes.
[13:33] <__Oz__> What's the advantage of synaptic?  Best I can tell is simply access to more repos.
[13:34] <ccasey> _Oz_ - its just a different way to do the same thing, slightly less user friendly
[13:34] <__Oz__> ccasey: right.  So why's it in there? :)
[13:34] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: More control over the packages. Also, add/remove does not lists packages, but rather more like the applications
[13:34] <credible> because it's more powerful
[13:34] <__Oz__> ccasey: why not just leave add/remove as the only gui package installer?
[13:34] <__Oz__> credible: powerful in what way?
[13:34] <ccasey> It lets you pic and choose libs and other things where as Add/Remove sticks mostly with programs
[13:34] <Pici> __Oz__: Because your power/developer-user wouldnt want that.
[13:34] <erUSUL> __Oz__: becouse add remove is too high level for some uses
[13:34] <nanobytes_> i guess am now on my own... dunnno really what to do about this fcking grub error 18...
[13:34] <__Oz__> libs?  libraries? What's an example of when you'd need to do this?
[13:35] <Desert_Storm> Faileas, where can i get libcurl_
[13:35] <erUSUL> __Oz__: compiling software
[13:35] <K-Ton> !usplash > K-Ton
[13:35] <__Oz__> Mm.
[13:35] <ccasey> _Oz_ you may want a specific kernel other than Generic
[13:35] <faileas> Desert_Storm: apt i guess
[13:35] <__Oz__> Me being a n00b, I guess add/remove is the right thing to use.
[13:35] <Desert_Storm> sudo apt-get libcurl_
[13:35] <Desert_Storm> ?
[13:35] <ccasey> or to add a dev package that goes along with a program
[13:35] <__Oz__> Yeah, I've seen dev packages in there.
[13:35] <faileas> Desert_Storm: no underscore, and use search first
[13:36] <Odd-rationale> ccasey: I really don't know what is wrong.   Is that about right?
[13:36] <Pici> __Oz__: yes ;)
[13:36] <faileas> __Oz__: though some people stick to apt ;p
[13:36] <ccasey> _Oz_ - just pick what works best with your workflow, and dont get hung up on the details.  If you find yourself needing synaptic one day, you will use it.
[13:36] <__Oz__> faileas: you mean the command line apt?
[13:36] <faileas> its faster when you know exactly what you want
[13:36] <faileas> __Oz__: yup
[13:36] <faileas> i do ;p
[13:36] <dubcat> woot - that's the first time i've every contributed to helping track down the cause of a bug :)
[13:36] <__Oz__> ccasey: I have used synaptic plenty (when following instructions from a webpage or something) but never understood the value of using it.
[13:37] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Synaptic is a debian thing, not just ubuntu. Add/Remove is a gnome app
[13:37] <__Oz__> Ahhh
[13:37] <Odd-rationale> *frontend
[13:37] <Pici> __Oz__: Everything in the end still uses apt to get stuff from the repositories. apt-get, aptitude, add/remove, synaptic, adept, etc...
[13:37] <ccasey> Odd-rationale, thanks for the help.
[13:37] <__Oz__> that helps shed some light.
[13:37] <__Oz__> Pici: right...  so synaptic is just another way of doing it, with "finer" control over what you get (i.e. dev packages and whatnot.)
[13:37] <Odd-rationale> Me. CLI all the way. :)
[13:37] <ccasey> damn, is no-one else having problems running an update lately?
[13:38] <__Oz__> When you run an "updatedb" what exactly is happening?
[13:38] <dubcat> __oz__ i started off using synaptic because it was easier for me (as an ex windows user).. as i got more familiar with my machine and with linux in general i moved on to apt-get which is easier now that i understand a little aobut what is going on around me
[13:38] <__Oz__> dubcat: but don't you need to learn some switches and flags to use with apt-get?
[13:38] <prince_jammys> __Oz__: an index of your filesystem is created
[13:38] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Not a lot
[13:39] <white_eagle> why doesn't backspace work in terminal?
[13:39] <white_eagle> (I have gnu screen running)
[13:39] <faileas> __Oz__: not really
[13:39] <dubcat> __oz__ not really - you just install :) and generally when i need to add a repository or something the website relating to the softaware i want to install will tell me exactly what to type in to terminal anyway
[13:39] <__Oz__> prince-jammys: I thought it was updating all the software you have by comparing it with the repos you downloaded it from.  Is that true?
[13:39] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Just "apt-get install package" and "apt-get remove package" :)
[13:39] <__Oz__> odd-rationale: yeah, I've used that.
[13:39] <__Oz__> but using the command line you can't "search" for a package, can you?
[13:39] <faileas> Odd-rationale:  __Oz__ don't forget apt-cache search ;p
[13:39] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Apt-cache
[13:40] <__Oz__> Ah.  First I've heard of that one.
[13:40] <dubcat> __oz__ just use whatever you are familiar and comfortable with - if you like synaptic use it
[13:40] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Or aptitude search if you like aptitude
[13:40] <_coredump_> moinsen
[13:40] <white_eagle> ok found it
[13:40] <prince_jammys> __Oz__: apt-cache search::: search for packages   apt-cache show:: show a specific package (sudo not necessary for either)
[13:41] <prince_jammys> __Oz__: apt-cache search dvd burn :)
[13:41] <__Oz__> Is there a tutorial page that explains CONCEPTUALLY what's going on inside linux/ubuntu with apt-get, aptitude, repos, libraries, etc?  I have a vague understanding of how it all works but not complete.
[13:41] <erUSUL> !apt > __Oz__
[13:41] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Try "apt-get moo" one of these days... :)
[13:41] <faileas> lol
[13:41] <__Oz__> What does that do, odd-rationale? :)
[13:41] <ricardoromao> What is the best kernel for Atlhon 64, know a days I use the x86_64 generic, is the best one ?
[13:41] <prince_jammys> and then again
[13:41] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Find out!
[13:41] <faileas> super cow powers !
[13:41] <__Oz__> Heh, heh.
[13:41] <__Oz__> I won't be back to my home PCs until this weekend so it'll have to wait. :) I will try it though.
[13:42] <dubcat> hahahahahhhahaah
[13:42] <dubcat> i just did apt-get moo
[13:42] <dubcat> :)
[13:42] <dubcat> Taurens ftw!
[13:43] <erUSUL> !enter
[13:43] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[13:43] <patogen> What is the "period" key? It says mod-period
[13:43] <dubcat> its the full stop
[13:43] <dubcat> .
[13:44] <patogen> dubcat: Ah thank uyou :)
[13:44] <dubcat> its an americanism... =/
[13:44] <shingouz> interesting. ubuntu packages stuff in completely different places than debian. this box will make my head hurt many times in the next couple of years
[13:44] <Odd-rationale> dubcat: Next you will have to find the super cow power of aptitude. :)
[13:45] <Grab> i want to use my shell as a proxy: what can i use/install ?
[13:45] <unicum> hello, i need something like an equalizer for my system
[13:45] <dubcat> oddd-rationale - i play a tauren in world of warcraft - i have the power of moo! :)
[13:45] <unicum> the bass sucks and there's like no treble
[13:45] <Odd-rationale> dubcat: Hint: aptitude -v moo
[13:45] <unicum> what can i use for this?
[13:45] <mactimes> Grab: Try Squid
[13:45] <dubcat> odd-rationale - it says there really are no Easter Eggs in this program
[13:45] <Odd-rationale> dubcat: try -vv
[13:46] <_Oz_> Here's a weird question.  Is there a way in Ubuntu (or anything, really) to connect to a router at a remote location and use it as a 'proxy' for internet access?
[13:46] <dubcat> hhahahahahhaha
[13:46] <Grab> mactimes,  is that good to run on a shell? is that overloading ?
[13:46] <dubcat> odd-rationale - ok that made my day.. trying -vvv
[13:46] <Desert_Storm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56619/plain/
[13:46] <dubcat> hahahaha
[13:46] <Desert_Storm> Im having that error executing Warsow
[13:46] <Odd-rationale> dubcat: Go for it.
[13:46] <_Oz_> I have a rental home with a router/DLS modem in it and I would like to be able to access it and browse the web/do things from there.
[13:46] <dubcat> this is excellent
[13:46] <faileas> lol
[13:46] <z0mbies> hi
[13:46] <faileas> keep adding vs ;p
[13:46] <mactimes> Grab: That will run as a system service.
[13:47] <dubcat> hahahahah it gets better and better - elephant.. snake.. etc
[13:47] <Viktorious> im always hearin about suse whats the deal
[13:47] <Grab> mactimes,  ok, but the problem is: will that overload cpu ?
[13:47] <z0mbies> Does anyone know how to compile Mplayer with GTK support?
[13:47] <_Oz_> regarding apt-get update...  don't the programs I install with apt-get update themselves automatically?
[13:47] <prince_jammys> dubcat: its from "the little prince"
[13:47] <mactimes> Grab: Not that I know
[13:47] <_Oz_> Periodically I get a flag in the tray in Ubuntu saying "updates are ready for download"
[13:47] <dubcat> prince - ah ok :) very funny
[13:47] <Desert_Storm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56619/plain/ im having that problem executing Warsow
[13:47] <Odd-rationale> _Oz_: Only when you run an update.
[13:47] <faileas> i got up to 6 ;p
[13:47] <dubcat> i used to work for a manufacturer of networking gear and we used to put all kinds of easter eggs in our equpiment
[13:47] <faileas> dubcat: keep adding vs!
[13:48] <_Oz_> odd-rationale: so I need to make sure I run update regularly.  Does anyone chron that?
[13:48] <dubcat> faileas haha i did until they resulted in the same message
[13:48] <_Oz_> Or is there a package I can install via the gui that will update my stuff automatically?
[13:48] <mactimes> Grab: Of course, that will depend on how many requests and clients will be accessing the proxy.  But in general, *nix services/daemons run very smoothly.
[13:48] <faileas> _Oz_: there's usually an update applet ;p
[13:48] <Grab> mactimes,  thanks for your help. ps: i will use it sporadically, so can i let it run 24/7 or should i switch it off ?
[13:48] <Odd-rationale> _Oz_: The update notifier simply reminds you to update.
[13:48] <_Oz_> I see.
[13:48] <mactimes> Grab: You can set it up not to start up automatically.
[13:49] <_Oz_> So clicking that little "fireburts" icon in the tray runs "sudo apt-get update"
[13:49] <_Oz_> Correct?
[13:49] <Odd-rationale> _Oz_: Corect
[13:49] <_Oz_> Ah.
[13:49] <faileas> pretty mugh
[13:49] <faileas> much
[13:49] <_Oz_> The picture becomes slightly clearer.
[13:49] <Grab> mactimes, shell is 24/7 on
[13:49] <mactimes> Grab: Then, you can use a "general" formula to start it up: sudo /etc/init.d/your_service start
[13:49] <Grab> so if i start it, it will stay forever
[13:49] <_Oz_> At the end of the day, ubuntu/linux really is more or less straightforward, isn't it?
[13:49] <prince_jammys> more or less :)
[13:49] <Odd-rationale> _Oz_: There is a lot of gui-for-bash-cammand in ubuntu...
[13:49] <_Oz_> It's relatively easy to figure all this stuff out after a lifetime of using Windows.
[13:49] <Grab> mactimes, do i need root access ?
[13:49] <Desert_Storm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56619/plain/ im having that problem executing warsow, anyone know what do i need more?
[13:50] <faileas> personally, linux is hard to get started, easy to keep running
[13:50] <faileas> windows is the other way around ;p
[13:50] <mactimes> Grab: All administrative tasks require root account or administrative rights.
[13:50] <z0mbies> Where can I go to make an Ubuntu feature request?
[13:50] <prince_jammys> _Oz_: yes, windows makes it easy by keeping you in the dark about whats going on
[13:50] <Odd-rationale> faileas: Never saw it that way before. But now makes sense.
[13:50] <dubcat> ozzloy: I made the move from windows to ubuntu in a very dramatic way - i tried to g-part my WORK laptop and screwed it up - since then ive been fully on Ubuntu - and just use virtualbox for anything i need windows for (vpn client for check point for example).
[13:51] <Grab> mactimes,  i dont have root access on my shell: so nothing to do ?
[13:51] <FFighter> hello
[13:51] <_Oz_> prince_jammys: heheh, exactly.
[13:51] <FFighter> I'd like to mount a samba share with a user other than root
[13:51] <_Oz_> faileas: actually I found ubuntu very easy to get running.
[13:51] <prince_jammys> _Oz_: the challenge in linux is to preserve the user's acces to whats happening in the system without confusing the hell out of normal users
[13:51] <faileas> Odd-rationale: Esp this install. took me 17 1/2 hours striaght cause of bad luck to install;p
[13:51] <Desert_Storm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56619/plain/ im having that problem executing warsow, anyone know what do i need more?
[13:51] <_Oz_> faileas: I tried red hat a LONG time ago but it was way beyond me.  command line installation.
[13:52] <mactimes> Grab: You can ask around, but nothing else to do then, as far as I know.  Either you have administrative rights or not.  It is that simple.
[13:52] <_Oz_> It is disappointing that ubuntu has such poor wireless support. :(
[13:52] <dubcat> the only reason i have to run ANY windows related software is my freakin vpn client :(  if there was some way to access check point vpn from linux i could just run outlook from crossover office
[13:52] <mactimes> _Oz_: I don't agree.
[13:52] <Odd-rationale> _Oz_: Depends on you chipset... It worked right out of the bos with me
[13:52] <faileas> _Oz_: i ended up going through 4 cds, give up tried a net install 4 times, gave up, then ussed wubi and LVPM
[13:52] <Odd-rationale> box
[13:52] <dubcat> ozzloy: wireless works for me fine on both my vaio and my dell laptops
[13:53]  * faileas has an intel 2100. old but VERY compatable ;p
[13:53] <_Oz_> dubcat: couldn't get any of my machines w/ wireless to work... that was two dell laptops and an old desktop with a wireless PCI card.
[13:53] <faileas> WPA support on gutsy was a good thing tho
[13:53] <_Oz_> I simply gave up on wireless for ubuntu.  That's why I'm running XP right now on my laptop.
[13:53] <mactimes> _Oz_: Never got my hands on a wireless onto a PC/laptop which wireless NIC wouldn't work with Ubuntu.
[13:53] <faileas> _Oz_: what chipset?
[13:54] <dubcat> ozzloy: i have a dell latitude d630 and it worked right out of the box with 7.10 gutsy - have you tried that version?
[13:54]  * faileas only knew one system that had issues with linux
[13:54] <dubcat> wtf - im not typing ozzloy!!
[13:54] <dubcat> im typing oz -
[13:54] <mIRCLan-mIRC6774> hello
[13:54] <faileas> and thats apparently a glitch in the bios
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[13:55] <mactimes> _Oz_: Some makers do it in the hard way.  Some one.  Don't blame the OS, instead, open your mind and think about replacing the hardware or getting drivers from the maker.
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[13:55] <mactimes> _Oz_: /s/Some one/Some not
[13:56] <sato_> _Oz_ No luck >< What's your wifi chipset ?
[13:56] <faileas> (more precisely there's a IRQ conflict between the USB adaptor and the wifi...)
[13:56] <Odd-rationale> lol
[13:56] <faileas> and no linux distro i tried (mandriva did with a bit of witchcraft) seems to work right
[13:57] <_Oz_> faileas: I don't know what chipset it is.  It's a Dell Inspiron E1705
[13:57] <z0mbies> hey, does anyone here know how to compile Mplayer with GTK?
[13:57] <dubcat> see ya guys
[13:57] <faileas> _Oz_: you can find out with SIW ;p
[13:57] <faileas> or look around
[13:58] <z0mbies> can if i can make a feature request for hardy, or is it too late now?
[13:58] <Odd-rationale> Does anyone know whether xfce can have different backgrounds for different desktops? Or is that only in kde or compiz?
[13:58] <jrib> z0mbies: why? It's in the repositories.  No need to compile it
[13:58] <z0mbies> not wth GTK support?
[13:58] <faileas> Odd-rationale: i believe so
[13:58] <prince_jammys> Odd-rationale: that can be done in  KDE?
[13:59] <prince_jammys> didn't know
[13:59] <Odd-rationale> prince_jammys: Yes. Just in the Desktop Settings.
[13:59] <faileas> prince_jammys: my HDR background attests to that
[13:59] <jrib> z0mbies: well you have to help me.  Does gtk support refer to something other than the standard gui for mplayer?
[13:59] <Odd-rationale> faileas: Yes in XFCE?
[13:59] <_Oz_> wHAT'S siw, faileas?
[13:59] <prince_jammys> Odd-rationale: faileas cool
[13:59] <faileas> _Oz_: its a really nice windows tool
[14:00] <_Oz_> faileas: what's it do?
[14:00] <faileas> Odd-rationale: i believe so. i don't have it installed but its doable
[14:00] <faileas> _Oz_: hardware info, passwords,ect
[14:00] <z0mbies> maybe I was reading an out dated post on the forum
[14:00] <frold> !ping
[14:00] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[14:00] <faileas> i use it on systems i want to dualboot for checking compat ;p
[14:00] <jrib> z0mbies: install "mplayer" from multiverse.  Then run "gmplayer" and see if that is what you are looking for
[14:00] <frold> howto ping a site :S
[14:00] <Pici> frold: ping site.com
[14:00] <jrib> frold: ping site
[14:01] <Odd-rationale> frold: ping -c 3 URL
[14:01] <z0mbies> okay, thank you for your help.
[14:01] <frold> In commandpromt?
[14:01] <Odd-rationale> frold: Yes
[14:01] <Pici> frold: yes, in a terminal.
[14:01] <_Oz_> faileas: nice
[14:01] <_Oz_> what can I learn from this proggie (I just installed it) that will tell me if this laptop will work with linux (wireless)?
[14:02] <faileas> _Oz_: it will tell you what your wireless card it
[14:02] <faileas> then look it up ;p
[14:02] <_Oz_> I found it.  Where do I look it up?
[14:02] <Odd-rationale> _Oz_: You can find your wireless card from the CLI: lspci
[14:02] <prince_jammys> !wireless | _Oz_
[14:02] <ubotu> _Oz_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:03] <_Oz_> Property	Value
[14:03] <_Oz_> Model	Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-Card
[14:03] <faileas> Odd-rationale: i'd have suggested that but he's in windows right now
[14:03] <frold> thankyou Pici, Odd-rationale, jrib
[14:03] <_Oz_> that's what I have
[14:03] <Odd-rationale> faileas: Oh, I forgot.
[14:03] <sato_> OZ: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[14:03] <sato_> did you try this how-to
[14:04] <_Oz_> No, sir, sato.
[14:04] <sato_> just looked it up in google... guess it's wors a try ;)
[14:04] <faileas> Odd-rationale: i'm better at windows than linux anyway, more experience ;p
[14:04] <_Oz_> thanks.
[14:04] <_Oz_> Looks like the same card they used in the e1705
[14:05] <Odd-rationale> faileas: I should be good at windows... ^_^
[14:05] <_Oz_> As usual, you're an outstanding and helpful group. Maybe I WILL try to get Ubuntu running on this Dell laptop.  Maybe it ISN'T hopeless.
[14:05] <faileas> Odd-rationale:well, been using windows for ages, linux is new to me ;p
[14:06] <frold> brb
[14:06] <crhylove> How do I change my refresh rate in the GUI?
[14:06] <crhylove> Currently only 50 or 51 hz is available, but this monitor performs better higher.
[14:06] <Odd-rationale> anyways, gtg! Be back later!
[14:06] <_Oz_> faileas: me too.
[14:07] <crhylove> at this low refresh, the monitor turns itself off and on.
[14:07] <crhylove> rendering this machine unusable
[14:08] <gluer> hi
[14:08] <prince_jammys> crhylove: preferences->screen resolution
[14:08] <crhylove> I had to do it in the console before, and I obviously messed it up.
[14:08] <crhylove> It only gives me two options.
[14:08] <crhylove> 50 and 51.
[14:08] <Amerio> hey guys
[14:08] <crhylove> This monitor doesn't work well that low.
[14:09]  * _Oz_ departs #ubuntu with new-found hope. And for that he is grateful.
[14:09] <_Oz_> Farewell again, my good friends.
[14:09] <_Oz_> And I thank you.
[14:09] <_Oz_> You have given me hope.
[14:09] <Amerio> guys i have a problem using dparted
[14:09] <Amerio> is it possible to move the unallocated space from SDA2 to SDA1?
[14:11] <prince_jammys> crhylove: what's the output of this::  grep -i refresh /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:12] <Desert_Storm> Im having rendering issues on warsow with openGL
[14:12] <Desert_Storm> How can i fix them_
[14:12] <jianfei> gday
[14:12] <Desert_Storm> Its like everything is too dark
[14:12] <MatzeB> Hi, I want to move the package selection from 1 ubuntu installation to another
[14:12] <MatzeB> someone know how I could do this?
[14:13] <prince_jammys> !info aptoncd | MatzeB
[14:13] <ubotu> matzeb: aptoncd (source: aptoncd): Installation disc creator for packages downloaded via APT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.97-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 135 kB, installed size 1024 kB
[14:13] <MatzeB> (I have 1 system with lots of stuff installed that I need, now I want to install the same stuff on another new system with a fresh ubuntu install)
[14:13] <jianfei> .
[14:14] <sato_> MatzeB: I really not sure but I thin you can get a list of all installed package (from the package manager)
[14:14] <Desert_Storm> How can i fix rendering on Warsow, its just too dark, and not understandable
[14:14] <Amerio> is it possible to move the unallocated space from SDA2 to SDA1 in Gparted and merge them into 1 unallocated space ? because I have two unallocated paritions
[14:14] <MatzeB> sato_, yes I found dpkg --get-selections
[14:15] <MatzeB> but no way yet to install that selection on the other box...
[14:15] <prince_jammys> MatzeB: check out that package
[14:15] <jianfei> .
[14:15] <MatzeB> prince_jammys, I am...
[14:15] <LL00> anyone know a soft like ms project?
[14:15] <MatzeB> prince_jammys, , though I don't really want to create a new install CD...
[14:16] <LL00> I tried planner
[14:16] <LL00> any soft better
[14:16] <MatzeB> prince_jammys, I can happily download all the packages again
[14:16] <MatzeB> prince_jammys, or simply copy my apt cache
[14:16] <lgierth> hello. i want to generate locales for en-US. how do i do that?
[14:16] <MatzeB> prince_jammys, I just don't want to select all the packages again manually
[14:16] <prince_jammys> MatzeB: i see
[14:17] <jianfei> im trying to get the novell client to work on gutsy anyone got this working?
[14:17] <white_eagle_> jianfei, what novell client?
[14:17] <white_eagle_> evolution?
[14:18] <prince_jammys> MatzeB: this parses the output of --getselections and then installs --- http://www.debianadmin.com/clone-your-ubuntu-installation.html
[14:18] <[chr0n0s]> hi, is there any application which can organize my notes, interlink them(like wikipedia) "automatically" ??
[14:18] <prince_jammys> MatzeB: or so it seems
[14:18] <MatzeB> prince_jammys, that's what I've been looking for I think
[14:18] <prince_jammys> MatzeB: sounds like it
[14:19] <jianfei> .
[14:19] <Amerio> is it possible to move the unallocated space from SDA2 to SDA1 in Gparted and merge them into 1 unallocated space ? because I have two unallocated paritions
[14:20] <Dflamingo> Hello
[14:20] <Dflamingo> I need some help
[14:20] <brobostigon> good aafternoon
[14:20] <Dflamingo> I installed Avast anti virus for Ubuntu
[14:20] <Dflamingo> From the avast main website
[14:21] <Dflamingo> But I can't seem to find avast anywhere
[14:21] <Dflamingo> ._.
[14:21] <erUSUL> [chr0n0s]: Tomboy (supports interlinking)?? or install a personal wiki
[14:21] <jianfei> white_eagel, im trying to get the novell login client to work on ubuntu, i converted the rpms to deb but it wont run
[14:21] <Dflamingo> This was the name of the file, avast4workstation_1.0.8-2_i386.deb
[14:21] <[chr0n0s]> erUSUL, mediawiki needs to be linked manually. ?
[14:21] <Dflamingo> Can't seem to find it on my computer
[14:21] <erUSUL> Dflamingo: dpkg -L avast4workstation
[14:21] <Dflamingo> What do you mean?
[14:22] <Dflamingo> I'm new to ubuntu
[14:22] <Dflamingo> ._.
[14:22] <Dflamingo> Help please
[14:22] <[chr0n0s]> Dflamingo, he means use -L to locate
[14:22] <erUSUL> [chr0n0s]: nope if you mention the tittle of anote in onother note it will be converted in a link
[14:22] <Dflamingo> -L?
[14:22] <Dflamingo> Whats that?
[14:22] <erUSUL> Dflamingo: that command will list the files instaled by the package
[14:22] <prince_jammys> read above
[14:22] <the-joe> hi
[14:22] <Dflamingo> oooh
[14:22] <[chr0n0s]> erUSUL, let my try that, i just installed mediawiki :D
[14:22] <erUSUL> !enter | Dflamingo
[14:22] <ubotu> Dflamingo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:23] <white_eagle_> !tab | jianfei
[14:23] <Dflamingo> where do I type the command in?
[14:23] <ubotu> jianfei: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[14:23] <[chr0n0s]> Dflamingo, in a console
[14:23] <erUSUL> !cli | Dflamingo
[14:23] <ubotu> Dflamingo: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[14:23] <the-joe> can sb help me with ubuntu 7.10 64 bit - ati radeon x800 blackscreen
[14:23] <mohbana> hi, i am using texlive in ubuntu, is the natbib package missing because i can't seem to compile using natbib?
[14:23] <Dflamingo> Oohh, the terminal
[14:23] <Dflamingo> the one like MS DOS?
[14:23] <prince_jammys> yes
[14:23] <white_eagle_> jianfei, .rpm converted to .deb isn't flawless
[14:23] <Dflamingo> thank you!
[14:24] <Viktorious> using something in wine doesnt affect the performance of it does irt
[14:24] <white_eagle_> Viktorious, performance of what?
[14:24] <Viktorious> the app
[14:24] <Dflamingo> wait
[14:24] <prince_jammys> Viktorious: yes, it can affect it
[14:24] <erUSUL> Viktorious: yes it does you got an additional layer
[14:24] <Dflamingo> I entered 'dpkg -L avast4workstation' into the terminal
[14:24] <Dflamingo> And a whole bunch of text came out
[14:25] <Dflamingo> Nothing that I understand though
[14:25] <Dflamingo> Still can't find avast
[14:25] <erUSUL> !enter
[14:25] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:25] <tuomoila> osaisko joku kertoa miten saan resoluution isommaksi kun asensin atin ajurit niin max.resoluutio on 800x600
[14:25] <erUSUL> Dflamingo: you got the list of files the package instaled and its location on hard disk
[14:26] <jianfei> white_eagle: yeh i noticed, annoyed novell hasnt bothered
[14:26] <prince_jammys> Dflamingo: you have installed this app but you can't access it?
[14:26] <Pici> !fi | tuomoila
[14:26] <ubotu> tuomoila: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[14:26] <Dflamingo> I can't find it
[14:26] <Dflamingo> It's not anywhere in appl/places or systems
[14:26] <Dflamingo> Avast for linux
[14:26] <mohbana> hi, i am using texlive in ubuntu, is the natbib package missing because i can't seem to compile using natbib?
[14:26] <Dflamingo> And I got the locations but what do I do?
[14:26] <erUSUL> Dflamingo: provably is a cli app that you call from terminal
[14:26] <prince_jammys> Dflamingo: try typing "avast"
[14:26] <white_eagle_> Dflamingo, hit alt-f2 and type avast
[14:26] <ubuntu1> Hi, people. I want to backup my Windows installation which is on the first harddrive, to my second harddrive. I tried dumping an image of the whole harddrive but my second harddrive wasn't big enough. How can I backup my Windows installation so that, when something goes wrong, i can restore it from that?
[14:26] <white_eagle_> see what happens
[14:27] <the-joe> no one in the mood to solve my ati x800 blackscreen boot problem? :(
[14:27] <mohbana> did anyone get my question
[14:27] <prince_jammys> Dflamingo: and if that doesnt work, try avas(and hit the tab key to see if it autocompletes the name)
[14:27] <white_eagle_> ubuntu1, I'll google now for windows backup
[14:27] <brobostigon> !backup | ubuntu1
[14:27] <ubotu> ubuntu1: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[14:27] <white_eagle_> mohbana, ??
[14:27] <mohbana> \usepackage[round, sort, numbers, authoryear]{natbib}
[14:27] <mohbana> opps
[14:27] <mohbana> hi, i am using texlive in ubuntu, is the natbib package missing because i can't seem to compile using natbib?
[14:27] <Dflamingo> it's not working
[14:27] <ubuntu1> brobostigon: thanks
[14:27] <Dflamingo> both methods didn't work
[14:28] <Dflamingo> Help!
[14:28] <Dflamingo> Can I paste the locations I got from terminal?
[14:28] <white_eagle_> Dflamingo, wait
[14:28] <white_eagle_> I'll see what I can do
[14:28] <Dflamingo> thank you
[14:29] <linduxed> ive got a light inside my headphone input (red, LED i think) that lights up when i use windows, making it easier to find, however it does not light up in ubuntu, do you know what to do or where to look for a solution? I've googled some but cant seem to find anything....
[14:29] <white_eagle_> !pastebin | Dflamingo
[14:29] <ubotu> Dflamingo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:29] <white_eagle_> use pastebin, paste them there
[14:29] <sato_> MatzeB: Look like you got your answer.... What I was thinking of is the File > Save markings option of synaptic
[14:29] <white_eagle_> and send us the link
[14:29] <Dflamingo> wait
[14:29] <Dflamingo> White eagle, can I private chat with you?
[14:29] <Dflamingo> This is all so confusing
[14:29] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: Were you the one helping me yesterday/the day before yesterday with the instability issue?
[14:29] <white_eagle_> yes
[14:29] <hw00djohn> hey everyone! i just got ubuntu and i love it!!
[14:29] <white_eagle_> Arelis__, yeah
[14:30] <white_eagle_> did you get it?
[14:30] <white_eagle_> did you get it fixed, I mean
[14:30] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: Great :). I've been running the liveCD for a night to backup something, and nothing has crashed. So.. can it be the harddrive?
[14:30] <linduxed> hw00djohn: wellcome aboard
[14:30] <white_eagle_> Dflamingo, pvt me if you like
[14:30] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: (And, no..)
[14:30] <linduxed> hw00djohn: *welcome
[14:31] <Grab> how do i see disk usage and quota of my shell?
[14:31] <MatzeB> arekkusu, that save markings didn't work, but the scripts on that page did
[14:31] <jianfei> white_eagle: until i get the client working i cant roll it out ubuntu to 400 pcs
[14:31] <MatzeB> arekkusu, in fact that dpkg --set-selections in combination with apt-get dselect-upgrade seems to be the proper way
[14:31] <jianfei> annoyed
[14:31] <MatzeB> (as mentioned in the comments on that page)
[14:31] <white_eagle_> hw00djohn, totally offtopic, but did you get the compiz effects?
[14:31] <white_eagle_> :D
[14:31] <brobostigon> grab: try df -h -T
[14:31] <hw00djohn> linduxed: thanks man.  right now i'm running compiz and looking for more upgrades.  Any idea if you can use iTunes with ubuntu 7.10? I'm trying to get my buddy to switch and that's his condition.
[14:31] <rsa_md5> suppose i have added a few script lines to /etc/rc.local......how do i execute the script? cd /etc and then ./rc.local ?
[14:32] <hw00djohn> white_eagle_: yeah. i got it!
[14:32] <white_eagle_> no hw00djohn sorry but DRM'd files won't work in linux
[14:32] <arekkusu> MatzeB: Ok good to know :) I though your could do that from synaptic...
[14:32] <white_eagle_> and itunes store doesn't work too
[14:32] <white_eagle_> !itunes | hw00djohn
[14:32] <ubotu> hw00djohn: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[14:32] <brobostigon> hw00djohn: you can run itunes with wine
[14:32] <hw00djohn> white_eagle_: figured, DRMified sucks...apple sucks.
[14:32] <MatzeB> arekkusu, synaptic only saved the changes you made to your package selection
[14:32] <Djoef> hi, is there a way to retrieve a command you once used and of which you know the start ? (i could browse trough the entire history but that would take me a long time... as it was a long time ago :) )
[14:32] <MatzeB> arekkusu, not your whole selection
[14:32] <Aciid> what does default ubuntu boot entry look like in grub?
[14:32] <marko-_-> ka
[14:32] <Aciid> could somebody paste that in pastebin
[14:32] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: Has your system been stable?
[14:32] <white_eagle_> Djoef, yes
[14:32] <linduxed> hw00djohn: tell him to try out amarok and hell be blown away
[14:33] <white_eagle_> press the up arrow
[14:33] <Djoef> (I am talking about commands in terminal)
[14:33] <white_eagle_> when in terminal
[14:33] <Djoef> white_eagle_:  how ?
[14:33] <Djoef> yes
[14:33] <Djoef> ok
[14:33] <Djoef> thats browsing trough the entire history
[14:33] <Djoef> but i know it was a ssh command
[14:33] <Djoef> and i need the settings
[14:33] <Pici> Djoef: or history | grep ssh
[14:33] <Djoef> great
[14:33] <linduxed> hw00djohn: sudo aptitude install amarok
[14:33] <Djoef> ill try
[14:33] <hw00djohn> linduxed: how would i find amarok, also, he has about 80gigs of music, can he turn those m4a's into whatever format amarok uses?
[14:34] <fotoflo> hi, i just noticed that all the ubuntu default users (sys, bin, sync, games, for example) have a default login shell, even though their logins are disabbled in the shadow file.... would it hurt to change all the /bin/sh
[14:34] <fotoflo> 's to /bin/false ?
[14:34] <Djoef> thank you Pici !!
[14:34] <linduxed> hw00djohn: get a terminal up and type that command i just wrote
 grab: try df -h -T <= no result
[14:35] <Aciid> could somebody please paste the default grub entry for ubuntu to pastebin
[14:35] <Desert_Storm> Where can i DL ''XFree86-DRI''_
[14:35] <hw00djohn> linduxed: i did, however it says i need my install CD
[14:35] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, do you use ati?
[14:35] <Desert_Storm> Yes
[14:35] <white_eagle_> fglrx drivers?
[14:35] <Pici> Aciid: There is no 'default grub entry', its dependent on your hardrive layout.
[14:35] <linduxed> hw00djohn: amarok uses all kinds of formats, and if it doesnt it just ask you to press a button to have it install automatically
[14:35] <erUSUL> Aciid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56626/   the locale and UUID are specific to my install of course
[14:35] <Arelis__> Pici: Hey there pici. I have been running the liveCD for a whole night and nothing has crashed and nothing is unstable. No random crashes or anything. I didn't have Xorg switched on though (it was on, but i was using the console all the time). So, if the liveCD is stable, but when it's installed it's not - then is it my harddrive?
[14:35] <Pici> !grub | Aciid
[14:35] <ubotu> Aciid: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:35] <arekkusu> MatzeB: There is a "save full state" you can check when saving... though that would save it all
[14:35] <linduxed> hw00djohn: ok you have to change sources them
[14:36] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, I don't know how to help you
[14:36] <linduxed> hw00djohn: *then
[14:36] <Pici> Arelis__: I forget what the problem was again.
[14:36] <hw00djohn> linduxed: explain plz
[14:36] <white_eagle_> I guess running xgl and direct rendering with fglrx isn't possible
[14:36] <Desert_Storm> Ah
[14:36] <Aciid> thank you very much erUSUL
[14:36] <brobostigon> Grab: type in exactly the following "df -h" into your terminal,that will hsow disk use and loads more.
[14:36] <Arelis__> Pici: Segmentation faulting programs. Oh, by the way, i memtested for about 5 hours, and no errors.
[14:36] <Desert_Storm> How can i fix rendering on games like warsow (Ati Radeon 9550)
[14:36] <linduxed> hw00djohn: system -> administration -> software sources
[14:36] <fotoflo> hi, i just noticed that all the ubuntu default users (sys, bin, sync, games, for example) have a default login shell, even though their logins are disabbled in the shadow file.... would it hurt to change all the /bin/sh 's to /bin/false ?
[14:36] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, is that an integrated chip?
[14:36] <Desert_Storm> And wine says aswell ''Missing XFree86-DPI''
[14:37] <Desert_Storm> AGP card
[14:37] <Pici> Arelis__: Could be the drive then, could be bad sectors.  I'd try a fsck, but that might not help either.
[14:37] <linduxed> hw00djohn: when yer there just tell me
[14:37] <hw00djohn> linduxed: what should i enable/disable?
[14:38] <Arelis__> Pici: I have 'formatted' (used the "use all space" option on the Ubuntu install disc") many times. I don't think it would be a problem with filesystems or partitions, but rather with the actual harddrive. I tested with the SMART utilities and it all gave PASSED.
[14:39] <Grab> brobostigon, i only read : Filesystem             Size   Used  Avail Use% Mounted on
[14:39] <Grab> no valuse
[14:39] <Desert_Storm> How can i fix 3D rendering on games like Warsow, its an AGP ATI Radeon 9550, also Wine says its missing ''XFree86_DPI''
[14:39] <Grab> values
[14:39] <linduxed> hw00djohn: disable cdrom, enable all others (except for source....and maybe the fourth one if yer scared of the description)
[14:40] <hw00djohn> linduxed: sudo aptitude install amarok??
[14:40] <Pici> Arelis__: I'm not sure then... I really haven't had to deal with faulty drives in a long time, :/
[14:40] <linduxed> hw00djohn: now go to the tab "updates"
[14:40] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: That's a problem with your drivers. Check the wiki :)
[14:40] <white_eagle_> hw00djohn, go to the terminal
[14:40] <Desert_Storm> Okay, thanks )D
[14:40] <bsdnewb07> guys ive installed ubuntu in vmware problem is no network devices have shown up :/
[14:40] <bsdnewb07>  shouldnt there be a lnc0?
[14:41] <hw00djohn> linduxed: what do i do in the updates tab?
[14:41] <Desert_Storm> You mean Ubuntu's wiki_
[14:41] <white_eagle_> bsdnewb07, is it a wifi card?
[14:41] <linduxed> hw00djohn: mark the first three, if yer brave, the fourth too i havent
[14:41] <Desert_Storm> link, what topic do i need?
[14:41] <bsdnewb07> no white_eagle_
[14:41] <flipmode> I am using 7.10 cant get dvds to play. They show up on the desktop but act like a folder
[14:41] <bsdnewb07> its a virtual device provided by vmware
[14:41] <Arelis__> Pici: Well luckily there is another harddrive, the one that was in this computer when it was bought - and it contains a Windows installation that is very, very stable. It hasn't had any issues like segmentation faulting. I gues I should just try to install Ubuntu on the stable harddrive, but i don't want to lose that super-stable windows installation.
[14:41] <erUSUL> !dvd | flipmode
[14:42] <ubotu> flipmode: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[14:42] <brobostigon> !medibuntu | flipmode
[14:42] <ubotu> flipmode: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[14:42] <linduxed> hw00djohn: now you can either usea graphical installer or use commands
[14:42] <johansja> I am having difficulty in changing my mouse cursor theme in ubuntu 7.10.
[14:42] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: Yep. I mean ubuntu's wiki
[14:42] <brobostigon> flipmode: install libdvdcss2 and vlc from medibuntu
[14:42] <hw00djohn> linduxed: i'm only brave on 7chan, but that is irrelevant.  should i close after the updates tab changes?
[14:42] <flipmode> I have done all that already
[14:42] <linduxed> hw00djohn: for graphical: system -> administration -> synaptic
[14:42] <white_eagle_> flipmode, install ubuntu-restricted-areas
[14:42] <mohbana> \bibliographystyle[super, sort]{natbib}
[14:42] <mohbana> hi, i am using texlive in ubuntu, is the natbib package missing because i can't seem to compile using natbib?
[14:43] <white_eagle_> or kubuntu-restricted-areas (if on kde)
[14:43] <Boglizk> How do i reload the gnome desktop? (Dont tell me to ctrlaltbackspace)
[14:43] <linduxed> hw00djohn: for commandway just enter what i typed
[14:43] <Desert_Storm> What should i be looking for_
[14:43] <Desert_Storm> Rendering issues_
[14:43] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, sorry for asking again
[14:44] <white_eagle_> is it an integrated chip?
[14:44] <linduxed> hw00djohn: but i suggest you try synaptic too, i think youll love it
[14:44] <flipmode> I am using ubuntu, I have installed all the restricted extras,libdvdcss2,medibuntu extras and still nothing
[14:44] <Desert_Storm> Its a AGP card, so no >P
[14:44] <Desert_Storm> And its okay =)
[14:44] <Arelis__> Pici: Can you help me with making sure i don't lose Windows?
[14:44] <pro-rsoft> hi all
[14:45] <white_eagle_> Arelis__, what is the problem now?
[14:45] <pro-rsoft> why does my wireless interface not show up in Connection Properties while it does in "iwconfig" ?
[14:45] <linduxed> hw00djohn: you there?
[14:45] <hw00djohn> linduxed:  it's installing now through terminal, thanks for the help
[14:45] <white_eagle_> !wifi | pro-rsoft
[14:45] <ubotu> pro-rsoft: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:45] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: Well, i want to try installing Ubuntu on a better harddrive so i can see if it is more stable on there, but i don't want to lose my Windows installation.
[14:45] <pro-rsoft> white_eagle_ i already read it
[14:45] <djtansey> file corruption question: evolution no longer opens inbox. What do you recommend for recovery? Error while Opening folder mbox:~/.evolution/mail/local#Inbox.
[14:45] <white_eagle_> try running fsck first
[14:45] <white_eagle_> ok
[14:45] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: on what device?
[14:46] <linduxed> hw00djohn: you from windows?
[14:46] <white_eagle_> on the old harddrive
[14:46] <johansja> i can't change my mouse cursor theme. No matter which cursor theme, including those which comes with ubuntu 7.10
[14:46] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: not a partition?
[14:46] <hw00djohn> linduxed: unfortunately.
[14:46] <white_eagle_> oh
[14:46] <white_eagle_> yes
[14:46] <flipmode> I am using ubuntu, I have installed all the restricted extras,libdvdcss2,medibuntu extras and still nothing
[14:46] <white_eagle_> if you partitioned the drive
[14:46] <mohbana> hi, i am using texlive in ubuntu, is the natbib package missing because i can't seem to compile using natbib?
[14:46] <linduxed> hw00djohn: well i hope you enjoy your stay
[14:46] <white_eagle_> flipmode, thats weird
[14:47] <bsdnewb07> how can i list all the network devices in ubuntu?
[14:47] <flipmode> white_eagle_: I agree
[14:47] <pro-rsoft> bsdnewb07: ifconfig
[14:47] <brobostigon> bsdnewb07:ifconfig
[14:47] <pro-rsoft> heh
[14:47] <tsdh> Hi.  I rented a server running ubuntu 6.10.  How do I add additional repositories?  There's no sources.list but an empty sources-list.d/.
[14:47] <flipmode> white_eagle_: any ideas
[14:47] <johansja> i can't change my mouse cursor theme. No matter which cursor theme, including those which comes with ubuntu 7.10
[14:47] <white_eagle_> flipmode, wait a min
[14:48] <flipmode> ok
[14:48] <bsdnewb07> thought so
[14:48] <Desert_Storm> white_eagle_: You know what should i be looking to fix the rendering with my AGP Radeon 9550?
[14:48] <bsdnewb07> will that show devices that dont have anything binded to them as well?
[14:48] <hw00djohn> anyone know where i could find some documentation on commands for terminal?  I'm new to the whole idea of the terminal and i'd liek to teach it to myself.  also, linduxed: thanks for the kind invite, i love the community here.
[14:48] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: linuxcommand.org
[14:48] <pro-rsoft> hw00djohn: http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
[14:48] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, copy your xorg.conf in pastebin
[14:48] <white_eagle_> please
[14:48] <white_eagle_> so I could compare
[14:48] <bsdnewb07> because all ifconfig is showing is lo
[14:48] <Desert_Storm> Where could that be_
[14:48] <bsdnewb07> which is loopback isnt it
[14:48] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: apt-get install rutebook
[14:48] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, try sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:49] <pro-rsoft> bsdnewb07, that means it can't find the rest huh :)
[14:49] <redmonkey> try ifconfig -a
[14:49] <white_eagle_> do not save changes ;)
[14:49] <pro-rsoft> bsdnewb07, try lspci or lspw to see if its recognised
[14:49] <brobostigon> lshw
[14:49] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys: what is rutebook?
[14:49] <Desert_Storm> What was the pastebin\s address?
[14:49] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: Oh, wait a minute, i forgot i cleared the "faulty" harddrive and put a single NTFS partition on that. Should i still do an fsck?
[14:49] <ilpompa> ciao a tutti
[14:49] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: its en ebook with tons of stuff about linux, including how to use command line
[14:49] <ilpompa> qualcuno parla italiano??
[14:50] <Pici> !it | ilpompa
[14:50] <ubotu> ilpompa: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:50] <pro-rsoft> Desert_Storm, there are millions. one is http://dpaste.com
[14:50] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: comes in html and pdf
[14:50] <ilpompa> tnx
[14:50] <white_eagle_> Arelis__, hmmmm
[14:50] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: try linuxcommand.org for a basic intro
[14:50] <pro-rsoft> Desert_Storm, also http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[14:50] <t04no> hi. did anyone manage to get visualstudio express 2008 running with wine ? wine setup.exe didn't work. a workaround may be to mount the msvc dvd iso and grab things from there.
[14:50] <Desert_Storm> http://dpaste.com/35911/
[14:50] <white_eagle_> I don't want to make you do mistakes, so I'm not sure
[14:50] <linduxed> hw00djohn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398290
[14:50] <Desert_Storm> white_eagle_: http://dpaste.com/35911/
[14:50] <white_eagle_> t04no, why don't you try MONO
[14:51] <white_eagle_> !mono
[14:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mono - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:51] <annonymouse> !wifi
[14:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:51] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: once you've installed rutebook, then in a browser paste::  /usr/share/doc/rutebook/html/index.html
[14:51] <white_eagle_> !info mono | t04no
[14:51] <ubotu> t04no: mono (source: mono): Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 28 kB
[14:52] <Lartza_> has anyone used kernelcheck?
[14:52] <white_eagle_> hey Desert_Storm try setting Section "Extensions"	Option		"Composite"	"0" from "0" to "Disable"
[14:52] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: That's very nice of you :), i'll ask someone else then
[14:52] <pro-rsoft> hey does anybody know why my network scan list shows empty? WifiDocs explain nothing about that
[14:52] <brobostigon> Lartza_: what is kernelcheck ??
[14:52] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: that and linuxcommand.org will get you started
[14:52] <pro-rsoft> yesterday i remember i got it to work
[14:53] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys: great, thanks
[14:53] <Lartza_> it is an automatic kernel compiler/updater following the steps in the master kernel thread
[14:53] <Arelis__> Does anybody here know how i can install Ubuntu on my harddrive containing Windows XP without ruining the install?
[14:53] <linduxed> prince_jammys: how do you acces rutebook when installed=
[14:53] <Desert_Storm> After saving, il try it now
[14:53] <Desert_Storm> playing warsow
[14:53] <Lartza_> Arelis___: search google: ubuntu winxp dualboot
[14:53] <prince_jammys> once you've installed rutebook, then in a browser paste::  /usr/share/doc/rutebook/html/index.html
[14:53] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, first disable
[14:53] <white_eagle_> compiz and restart
[14:54] <white_eagle_> the x server
[14:54] <prince_jammys> linduxed: ^
[14:54] <t04no> white_eagle: i need the non CLI c++ compiler from ms for some testing. btw mono is a piece of crap.
[14:54] <brobostigon> !install | Arelis__
[14:54] <ubotu> Arelis__: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[14:54] <Desert_Storm> did it
[14:54] <flipmode> white_eagle_: figure anything out?
[14:54] <Arelis__> Lartza_: But aren't most of those guides dangerous to the windows install?
[14:54] <Dimitrije> !Dimitrije ntfs
[14:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dimitrije ntfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:54] <erUSUL> t04no: instal windows
[14:54] <Lartza_> i dont think so
[14:54] <Dimitrije> !ntfs
[14:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[14:54] <white_eagle_> no flipmode i don't have other dependencies installed and DVD works
[14:54] <white_eagle_> sorry
[14:54] <Dimitrije> !ntfs write
[14:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs write - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:54] <white_eagle_> can't help you
[14:54] <linduxed> prince_jammys: thx
[14:54] <Lartza_> !install | Arelis__
[14:54] <ubotu> Arelis__: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[14:55] <Lartza_> check that
[14:55] <Dimitrije> How to see informations about NTFS write in linux. There was a program i forgot...
[14:55] <Lartza_> has anyone used kernelcheck?
[14:55] <Dimitrije> One guy gave it to me over this bot.
[14:55] <erUSUL> !ntfs-3g
[14:55] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[14:55] <Arelis__> Lartza_: I had experience with a previous windows install that i tried to resize using the Ubuntu liveCD, but it made it behave weirdly, and wouldn't boot because (i thought) it had a broken chkdisk, (but i just needed to wait a little longer)
[14:55] <prince_jammys> linduxed: hw00djohn:  you may have to stick file://   before the above address, depending on the web browser you use
[14:55] <uniwiz> Hello everyone. Does anyone has ubuntu on thinkpad t60?
[14:55] <Desert_Storm> white_eagle_: No changes =S
[14:55] <flipmode> when i put a dvd in totem opens up but says no plugin available to play this file
[14:55] <uniwiz> I have t60 with dedicated ati card and the fan never shuts off
[14:55] <uniwiz> seems like it is because of dedicated gpu
[14:55] <Dimitrije> !fuse
[14:55] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[14:56] <Dimitrije> !fusion
[14:56] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[14:56] <Lartza_> read about installation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[14:56] <brobostigon> flipmode: what happens when you try to play the dvd using vlc directly??
[14:56] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi there, is the usage of .xsession denied on purpose on ubuntu?
[14:56] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, hello?
[14:56] <white_eagle_> does the game work now?
[14:56] <Dimitrije> How to write to NTFS!!!!!
[14:57] <erUSUL> !ntfs-3g > Dimitrije
[14:57] <erUSUL> !patience > Dimitrije
[14:57] <bsdnewb07> when running ubuntu inside vmware - whats the default network device called eth0 or lnc0?
[14:57] <Dimitrije> !ntfs-3g > Dimitrije
[14:57] <julle> Any idea what can be the problem why the fontsize on for example "Konversation and aMSN" is extremely tiny?
[14:57] <Lartza_> I had NTFS hard drive and it worked in ubuntu without any config
[14:57] <Desert_Storm> white_eagle_: No changes
[14:57] <white_eagle_> hmh
[14:57] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, wait I'll google it
[14:58] <Desert_Storm> okay, thanks =(
[14:58] <Desert_Storm> i mean =)
[14:58] <Le-Chuck_ITA> nobody knows? I just want to run my custom session, I always did that whenever I needed that, why can't I do that in gutsy? If I create .xsession and chmod 755 it doesn't work
[14:59] <annonymouse> can some one help with with a wireless issue
[14:59] <pro-rsoft> !wifi
[14:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:59] <Le-Chuck_ITA> .xsession is mentioned in /etc/gdm/Xsession, a variable is assigned to this file, but never used in the script
[14:59] <linduxed> prince_jammys: not if you use firefow
[14:59] <annonymouse> read the pro-rsoft its a question bout my card
[14:59] <white_eagle_> annonymouse, do tell.
[14:59] <linduxed> prince_jammys: *firefox
[14:59] <prince_jammys> linduxed: you mean it doesn't work?
[14:59] <white_eagle_> integrated card, annonymouse ?
[15:00] <linduxed> prince_jammys: it works without file://
[15:00] <Lartza_> i have choppy sound in glest, does anyone know how to fix it?
[15:00] <pro-rsoft> can someone help me with me wireless issue?
[15:00] <prince_jammys> linduxed: yeah, thats browser-dependent i think.  that book has tons of stuff to check out
[15:00] <Lartza_> is it said choppy when it breaks form time to time?
[15:00] <white_eagle_> !forums | pro-rsoft
[15:01] <white_eagle_> try asking in the forums
[15:01] <ubotu> pro-rsoft: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[15:01] <[chr0n0s]> erUSUL, it works, the links but i have to type like [[ubuntu]] for the link to ubuntu, would be great if it was automatic
[15:01] <annonymouse> im looking to see if my card is supported  so i typed in http://pastebin.ca/905756
[15:01] <annonymouse> i cant work out if it is or not
[15:02] <erUSUL> [chr0n0s]: in tomboy?
[15:02] <linduxed> prince_jammys: yeah i noticed
[15:03] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, I'm currently reading this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=579428&highlight=direct+rendering+fglrx
[15:03] <Le-Chuck_ITA> really, I can't believe nobody ever wanted to run a custom xsession and knows why in ubuntu it will no longer works
[15:03] <white_eagle_> what card did you have?
[15:03] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm??
[15:03] <annonymouse> my laptops a 8111 and its centrino based so im wandering if thats pertinant to ipw2200
[15:04] <Desert_Storm> white_eagle_: ATI Radeon 9550
[15:04] <erUSUL> Le-Chuck_ITA: report it as a bug...
[15:04] <white_eagle_> ok
[15:04] <erUSUL> !bugs | Le-Chuck_ITA
[15:04] <Le-Chuck_ITA> come on
[15:04] <Le-Chuck_ITA> erUSUL: if it's a bug I will report
[15:04] <ubotu> Le-Chuck_ITA: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[15:04] <Le-Chuck_ITA> only maybe in years the way to run a custom xsession changed
[15:04] <amirrezas> hello you have blocked my userid@*
[15:04] <amirrezas> hello you have blocked my userid@*
[15:04] <amirrezas> :)
[15:04] <amirrezas> :)
[15:04] <Le-Chuck_ITA> this requires experience with ubuntu and that's because I am asking here
[15:04] <amirrezas> hello you have blocked my userid@*
[15:04] <amirrezas> :)
[15:05] <Le-Chuck_ITA> if at least one person confirms that to run a custom xsession I *should* create a .xsession file
[15:05] <valberg> hey i got a rather wierd error when running "sudo update-manager -d"
[15:05] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I will report this as a bug
[15:05] <valberg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/update-manager/+bug/193300
[15:05] <valberg> ^my bugreport
[15:06] <valberg> it fails when installing language-selector-common
[15:06] <amirrezas> MARY (JESUS' MOM) WAS MERELY A COMMON WHORE IMPREGNATED BY SOME STUPID JEW
[15:06] <amirrezas> hello you have blocked my userid@*
[15:06] <[chr0n0s]> erUSUL, works in tomboy! gr8, just what i needed, thanks
[15:06] <faileas> !op
[15:06] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[15:06] <sarah> hi just installed ubuntu and plugged in network cable and says isnt plugged in! <note windows says same; and its okay on another computer)
[15:06] <amirrezas> IF I COULD JUST GET MY HANDS ON PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S DAUGHTER I'D SHOVE MY FIST UP HER BLEEDING CUNT AND SCRAMBLE HER BRAINS
[15:07] <[chr0n0s]> gone, phew
[15:07] <prince_jammys> interesting
[15:07] <Arelis__> !op
[15:07] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, from what I have learnt from the forums, if you have an old ATi card, you can get the desktop effects but no direct rendering sorry, you'll have to use AIGLX which is in development and will give you direct rendering, but no desktop effects (they're planning to include that in the next release)
[15:07] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[15:07] <[chr0n0s]> white_eagle_, !!
[15:07] <white_eagle_> what
[15:07] <Arelis__> oh, too late
[15:07] <Arelis__> sorry
[15:07] <[chr0n0s]> nothing
[15:07] <kubitz> sarah on another computer running Ubuntu or another computer running another operating system?
[15:07] <Desert_Storm> AIGLX? Where can i get that
[15:08] <[chr0n0s]> Desert_Storm, it's with the gfx drivers i think
[15:08] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, you'll must uninstall the drivers
[15:08] <white_eagle_> from the repos
[15:08] <white_eagle_> and get envy
[15:08] <Desert_Storm> How?
[15:08] <faileas> er
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Dont suggest envy please
[15:08] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, do you reallywant to do that?
[15:08] <pro-rsoft> Jack_Sparrow, why not :)
[15:08] <Desert_Storm> Sure, want to play Warsow
[15:08] <faileas> envy isn't recommended
[15:08] <white_eagle_> I don't suggest that
[15:08] <sarah> kubitz: running ubuntu
[15:08] <Desert_Storm> lol =P
[15:08] <Desert_Storm> Darn
[15:08] <pro-rsoft> envy is the only thing that worked for me on gutsy
[15:08] <white_eagle_> AIGLX is still in development
[15:08] <white_eagle_> !aiglx
[15:08] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[15:08] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: AIGLX isd not what you want. AIGLX is for desktop effects. you want DRI and GLX
[15:08] <pro-rsoft> glx-new didnt, while gutsy's nvidia drivers didn't either
[15:08] <[chr0n0s]> pro-rsoft, for ATi drivers?
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: which ati card?
[15:09] <kubitz> sarah so one comp running ubuntu is working and the other isn't?
[15:09] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: you should look at the drivers
[15:09] <pro-rsoft> no, nvidia
[15:09] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: And possibly install fglrx
[15:09] <Desert_Storm> Its ATI Radeon 9550
[15:09] <white_eagle_> Arelis__, its the contrary
[15:09] <vlt> Hello. Someone sent me an MS Word document, which seems to be protected. I can edit some prepared fields with OpenOffice but can't edit the whole text. Where do I find the unlock function?
[15:09] <white_eagle_> xgl is for effects
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: 9550 can use fglrx
[15:09] <sarah> kubitz: yes, i tried windows with the non working one also but still says network cable unplugged
[15:09] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: No. Sorry, but AIGLX and XGL are for effects, and GLX is for games
[15:09] <Desert_Storm> Okay, where can i get FGLRX_
[15:09] <sarah> so makes me think maybe hardware error?
[15:09] <white_eagle_> Arelis__, oh all that XGL, blah blah, GLX
[15:09] <white_eagle_> :)
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: there is a bit of an overlap at that card
[15:09] <kubitz> I suppose the logical answer then is that the network card isn't working for some reason
[15:10] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: yeah, 'tis confusing :)
[15:10] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, you already have fglrx don't you?
[15:10] <RMRV> esxuse me
[15:10] <kubitz> Can you change the network card in that comp to test that sarah?
[15:10] <white_eagle_> do you have compiz effects?
[15:10] <RMRV> i have a doubt
[15:10] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: fglrx is the propietary drivers
[15:10] <Desert_Storm> Ah, yeah
[15:10] <sarah> dont have another :O(
[15:10] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: If you have those drivers, that may be the cause
[15:10] <vwbusguy> Desert_Storm: you can get it from thye livna repo
[15:10] <white_eagle_> !fglrx
[15:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:10] <sarah> good idea tho thx
[15:10] <Arelis__> vwbusguy: this is not fedora
[15:10] <vwbusguy> sorry, wrong channel
[15:10] <Desert_Storm> So how do i uninstall them_
[15:10] <kubitz> sarah nah I suppose it's not the kind of thing you keep as a spare :)
[15:11] <soweto76> motherboard claims "SATA II"-- lspci shows " IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller" is this real SATA device or some kind of bridge?
[15:11] <RMRV> i foung this worm, virus, whatever in my pen drive Mircosoftpowerpoint.exe, and i cant remove it with ubuntu, why?
[15:11] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: Go to 'screens' in Administration and change the driver from fglrx to radeon
[15:11] <kubitz> It does look like a hardware problem though if too different opsystems don't work
[15:11] <valberg> is there any support channel for upgrading to hardyheron ?
[15:11] <erUSUL> soweto76: real
[15:11] <sarah> maybe i must go buy a wireless card? (would it work if the motherboard integrated one doesnt?)
[15:11] <erUSUL> !hardy | valberg
[15:11] <kubitz> I suppose you tried swapping the cables?
[15:11] <RMRV> does anyobe have an idea?
[15:11] <ubotu> valberg: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:11] <white_eagle_> sarah, I guess you can't change the motheboard integrated one
[15:12] <white_eagle_> RMRV, I suggest using anti-virus software
[15:12] <kubitz> sarah could well do - I added a  Realtek to one comp and that worked
[15:12] <RMRV> but in ubuntu???
[15:12] <white_eagle_> I guess avast4linux home edition would work
[15:12] <Desert_Storm> Okay, gonna reboot
[15:12] <sarah> kubitz: cool thx
[15:12] <white_eagle_> yeah
[15:12] <Desert_Storm> Thanks guys
[15:12] <soweto76> erUSUL, I was expecting some reference to AHCI but his seems to be connected via IDE
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: One sec
[15:12] <Desert_Storm> Okay
[15:12] <RMRV> white: isnt this virus for windows?
[15:12] <white_eagle_> RMRV, linux has antivirus progs, although he doesn't need it
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56630/   Here are my notre on setting up that card...   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56630/
[15:13] <erUSUL> soweto76: you should be able to configure that on the mb BIOS
[15:13] <white_eagle_> RMRV, yes yes, but that prog. scnas for win virueses so you don't pass them to your friends
[15:13] <white_eagle_> scans*
[15:13] <Desert_Storm> What file to overwrite_
[15:13] <kubitz> sarah there is a list of supported network cards somewhere
[15:13] <white_eagle_> bye guys
[15:13] <soweto76> erUSUL, OK, thanks, I will take a look.
[15:13] <brobostigon> !hcl
[15:13] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[15:13] <erUSUL> soweto76: ahci mode for the ide chip i mean
[15:13] <genii> !hcl
[15:13] <white_eagle_> I have to study o_0
[15:13] <genii> brobostigon: Heh
[15:13] <RMRV> white: i understant, but, how could'nt i remove it
[15:14] <RMRV> ?
[15:14] <Desert_Storm> Jack_Sparrow: What file to overwrite
[15:14] <kubitz> ubotu that's the one I never remember urls :(
[15:14] <white_eagle_> RMRV, do you have any av software installed?
[15:14] <erUSUL> soweto76: mine has three modes ahci; raid (fakeraid) and legacy or something like that ahci is prefered for linux
[15:14] <white_eagle_> !tab | RMRV
[15:14] <ubotu> RMRV: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[15:14] <soweto76> erUSUL, how does the ide and sata work together -- I thought they were separate.
[15:14] <sarah> kubitz: even if i cant find one of those at best buy i could try out ndiswrapper :)
[15:14] <white_eagle_> :)
[15:14] <RMRV> white_eagle_:  what is as av software?
[15:15] <erUSUL> soweto76: they are separate
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: Have you done this    apt-get install xserver-xgl
[15:15] <RMRV> ubotu: thanks
[15:15] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[15:15] <prince_jammys> RMRV:  antivirus
[15:15] <riotkittie> RMRV: can you not just delete the file from the pen drive? or format it {assuming anything of value on the drive is backed up elsewhere}
[15:15] <RMRV> prince_jammys:  no, i do not have ir
[15:15] <Desert_Storm> Yes
[15:15] <kubitz> sarah you could. I tell what I would say is if you do get Realtek check what chipset it uses because there are two distinct driver for each type and it asked me to select which at setup which caught me out at the time
[15:15] <soweto76> erUSUL, this lspci output only show SATA on the "IDE interface"
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: and then sudo depmod -a
[15:16] <Desert_Storm> Did it now
[15:16] <erUSUL> soweto76: well SATA is an evolution of IDE
[15:16] <andy_> hi
[15:16] <RMRV> riotkittie: no, i cant delet it, it apaers again
[15:16] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, does dir. rendering work now?
[15:16] <joeamined> hi
[15:16] <white_eagle_> !hi | andy_
[15:16] <ubotu> andy_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: See my notes on the edit of your xorg
[15:16] <soweto76> erUSUL, Thanks again.  I will fiddle with the BIOS as you suggested.
[15:16] <joeamined> is it possible to emulate a mouse button with a keyboard key ?
[15:16] <andy_> can anyone help me please my system hangs when i logoff
[15:16] <erUSUL> soweto76: they are two forms of ide old PATA (parallel ATA) and new SATA (serial ATA)
[15:17] <Desert_Storm> sudo depmod -a, wrote that, now what should i do_
[15:17] <Slart> question for someone who knows about dvd players.. if I burn a regular data dvd with multiple avi's in the root folder of a DVD.. what are the chances my dvd player will just play them? (yes, I'm to lazy to try) =)
[15:17] <RMRV> riotkittie: i meant, just some seconds after deletin, the file is there again
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: Edit your xorg.conf per the notes
[15:17] <RMRV> riotkittie: i wanted to understant why
[15:17] <kubitz> andy_ Mine did that - does it say halted but not quite finish?
[15:17] <soweto76> erUSUL, OK
[15:18] <andy_> it just locks up if i do a logoff or shutdown
[15:18] <riotkittie> RMRV: that sounds terribly bizarre.
[15:18] <andy_> i'm thinking it could be the ati drivers
[15:18] <RMRV> riotkittie: moreover, my pendrive has broken just after this, or burn, sorry, i dont know how to say this in englush
[15:18] <soweto76> erUSUL, I assume that the two SATA connectors are independent and not two drives one channel like the old ide -- that correct?
[15:18] <RMRV> riotkittie: it is bizarre for me too
[15:18] <erUSUL> soweto76: yes
[15:19] <kubitz> Ah different problem - I'm too new with linux to answer anything I haven't actually some across :(
[15:19] <RMRV> riotkittie: it was working just like a virus for linux
[15:19] <Desert_Storm> Jack_Sparrow: Copy the whole note?
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: I just got online to get my mail...  those simple edits should get you going.
[15:19] <joeamined> is it possible to emulate a mouse button with a keyboard key ?
[15:19] <seba_> jestes ??
[15:19] <soweto76> erUSUL, 10Q l8r B-)
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> See the section on editing the xorg  it is only a couple lines
[15:19] <Desert_Storm> Ah, okay
[15:19] <Desert_Storm> Thanks )D
[15:19] <kubitz> joeamined you mean the way you have to be able to with some games?
[15:20] <RMRV> no one has any idea?
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: Save the link as it has other troubleshooting info at the end
[15:20] <Desert_Storm> done
[15:21] <joeamined> kubitz : no just a keyboard key that has same functionality as the right mouse button
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: fglrxinfo shows ati and not mesa correct?
[15:21] <RMRV> well, thaks anyway
[15:21] <Desert_Storm> ATI Technologies Inc. Rendered string: ATI Radeon 9550 / X1050 Series
[15:22] <andy_> yeah
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: great, take care
[15:22] <Desert_Storm> You too :P
[15:22] <andy_> fglrxinfo
[15:23] <Aciid> where is the ATI grapihcs card tutorial
[15:23] <Aciid> the ubuntu wiki is confusing
[15:23] <Aciid> cant find any tutorials
[15:24] <linduxed> ive got a light inside my headphone input (red, LED i think) that lights up when i use windows, making it easier to find, however it does not light up in ubuntu, do you know what to do or where to look for a solution? I've googled some but cant seem to find anything....
[15:24] <MJLG> how do i get help in spanish?
[15:24] <LjL> !es | MJLG
[15:24] <ubotu> MJLG: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:24] <MJLG> gracias
[15:24] <nano_> hola
[15:24] <MJLG> thankyou
[15:25] <dan-902> using ubuntu 7.04 & firefox - what do I need to play quicktime embed mp4 video on a webpage
[15:25] <chook1> hello all from FRANCE big up to All LINUX user'S
[15:25] <chook1> :)
[15:26] <Slart> linduxed: probably something the manufacturers proprietary driver took care of and the guy who wrote the linux driver didn't think was worth spending time on
[15:26] <pro-rsoft> hi
[15:26] <pro-rsoft> how to fix gpg issues with ubuntu and canonical server
[15:26] <bigsam> rtfm
[15:26] <Slart> pro-rsoft: you man apt whining about unsigned packages?
[15:26] <pro-rsoft> yup
[15:26] <Hammer89> hello... I'm having some issue with my computer... a few minutes ago nearly everything stopped functioning (I couldn't open any new programs)... so I pressed ctrl-alt-delete to go back to the login screen... tried logging back in... but it just brought me back to the login screen... then I pressed ctrl-alt-f2 and tried working from the CLI... but every time I'd input a command it would feed me an error saying "bash: fork: Resource tem
[15:26] <Hammer89> porarily unavailable"
[15:27] <Slart> bigsam: not helpful.. please don't do that again
[15:27] <bazhang> bigsam cut it out
[15:27] <pro-rsoft> !gpg
[15:27] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[15:28] <bazhang> dan-902: what page--let me see if mplayer plugin will do it
[15:28] <biouser> I need to be able to gmake...
[15:28] <linduxed> Slart: yeah i understand that, but what is it controlled by?
[15:28] <Slart> pro-rsoft: you have to add the gpg key to your little storage of keys..
[15:28] <pro-rsoft> Slart, where can i find the keys
[15:28] <TrapperDave> Amarok hangs during start up. Does anyone know how I can fix it?
[15:28] <Slart> pro-rsoft: it's the same with almost all repositories.. hang on.. let me check
[15:28] <seba_> siema
[15:29] <bazhang> TrapperDave: try starting it from the console and tell us any error messages you get
[15:29] <Slart> linduxed: probably some function only existing in the windows driver.. do you really really really need it?
[15:29] <biouser> http://pastebin.com/d708943d6
[15:29] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: gnome or kde?
[15:29] <biouser> there is a copy of my MAKEFILE
[15:29] <TrapperDave> ok bazhang: Amarok: [Loader] Starting amarokapp..
[15:29] <TrapperDave> Amarok: [Loader] Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.
[15:29] <TrapperDave> kbuildsycoca running...
[15:29] <TrapperDave> DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.
[15:29] <TrapperDave> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x82a1c90 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "play_pause"
[15:29] <biouser> graphiz says that it may need to be altered
[15:29] <FloodBot2> TrapperDave: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:29] <TrapperDave> QLayout "unnamed" added to QVBox "unnamed", which already has a layout
[15:30] <biouser> anyone know how I might have to alter it for a pretty standard GUTSY?
[15:30] <biouser> or what packages might make it run
[15:30] <prince_jammys> !paste | TrapperDave
[15:30] <ubotu> TrapperDave: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:30] <nano_> HELO
[15:30] <biouser> gmake: command not found
[15:30] <prince_jammys> oops sorry, bot already took care of that
[15:31] <TrapperDave> it's saying that xine was unable to initialise audio.
[15:31] <bazhang> TrapperDave: there is another music app running?
[15:31] <Slart> pro-rsoft: here is one page.. look a bit down.. managing authentication keys
[15:31] <TrapperDave> No, that's the only one.
[15:31] <Slart> pro-rsoft: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[15:31] <pro-rsoft> ok
[15:31] <pro-rsoft> hmm, it seems that whatever server i'm using the apt-get update always hangs after a certain time
[15:31] <biouser> anyone know anything about gmake?
[15:31] <TrapperDave> It just hangs on the splash screen.
[15:32] <bazhang> TrapperDave: when did this start happening or has it always been this way
[15:32] <shishirmk> hi can any guide with using some command line mail clients?
[15:32] <Slart> pro-rsoft: added any weird repositories?
[15:32] <pro-rsoft> Slart: no
[15:32] <shishirmk> i have installed mutt
[15:32] <TrapperDave> Yesterday it wouldn't play any mp3s so I uninstalled it. I re-installed it today and now it won't work at all.
[15:32] <shishirmk> please tell me how to use it with google
[15:32] <TrapperDave> This is what happens.
[15:32] <shishirmk> i mean gmai;
[15:32] <pro-rsoft> Translation-en_US always fails
[15:32] <shishirmk> gmail*
[15:33] <natan> tem algum brasileiro ai
[15:33] <biouser> hahaha, take all the g's out of the MAKEFILE... haha
[15:33] <jrib> shishirmk: http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/ use imap with gmail
[15:33] <jrib> !br | natan
[15:33] <ubotu> natan: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[15:33] <biouser> because we are already all kinds of in GNU
[15:33] <bazhang> TrapperDave: do other music apps play those same mp3s? not using feisty here though perhaps that does not matter
[15:33] <Slart> !repos
[15:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[15:33] <biouser> now about glut and OpenGL...
[15:33] <TrapperDave> Rythmnbox plays them with no problems.
[15:34] <TrapperDave> I can't even get into Amarok now to see if still can't play them.
[15:34] <pro-rsoft> oh by the way. is there any kind of update-manager for cli?
[15:34] <bazhang> TrapperDave: you removed it via aptitude apt-get or add/remove?
[15:34] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: paste the whole error in the pastebin
[15:34] <TrapperDave> I used Synaptic.
[15:35] <bazhang> that is odd
[15:35] <arochford> pro-rsoft: sudo aptitude update redownloads your list of packages
[15:35] <arochford> pro-rsoft: and sudo aptitude upgrade will upgrade any with never versions
[15:36] <biouser> if a program says that it needs lex/yacc, glut and OpenGl... what packages should I get to build the program?
[15:36] <TrapperDave> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56633/
[15:36] <biouser> !glut
[15:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glut - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:36] <pro-rsoft> arochford, what about distro upgrades
[15:36] <biouser> !OpenGL
[15:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:36] <biouser> !yacc
[15:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yacc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:36] <pawan> hi
[15:36] <genii> !info yacc
[15:36] <ubotu> Package yacc does not exist in gutsy
[15:36] <arochford> pro-rsoft: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[15:36] <genii> hmm
[15:36] <pro-rsoft> ok thanks arochford
[15:36] <arochford> pro-rsoft: or aptitude safe-upgrade
[15:37] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: and you use gnome or kde?
[15:37] <biouser> !libglut3-dev
[15:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libglut3-dev - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:37] <pro-rsoft> !info libglut3-dev
[15:37] <ubotu> libglut3-dev (source: glut): development libraries and headers for GLUT. In component main, is optional. Version 3.7-25 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 48 kB
[15:37] <biouser> thanks pro-rsoft !
[15:37] <TrapperDave> Gnome I think. All I know is that it's Gutsy. I only started using Linux last week.
[15:38] <bazhang> TrapperDave: what about amarokapp in the terminal? does that start it--you may need to give it a moment or two to launch
[15:38] <pro-rsoft> is there any way to restore sources.list to default?
[15:38] <deadly_one> #ubuntu
[15:39] <deadly_one> shit
[15:39] <erUSUL> pro-rsoft: System>Admin>Software sources
[15:39] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: in a terminal type :       ls -dl .kde     and paste the line here
[15:39] <TrapperDave> bazhang: I get the error message: Xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.
[15:39] <bazhang> pro-rsoft: what kind of extra stuff do you have in there
[15:39] <stdin> pro-rsoft: there's a simple on in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[15:40] <pro-rsoft> ok thanks
[15:40] <TrapperDave> prince_jammys: drwx------ 3 davidpilditch davidpilditch 4096 2008-02-18 02:29 .kde
[15:40] <bazhang> deadly_one: language
[15:40] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: thats fine.  when does the xine error come up?
[15:40] <TrapperDave> When amarokapp loads.
[15:41] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: sorry if someone asked this already -- other sound stuff works?
[15:41] <pro-rsoft> hmm. i might have a different problem.
[15:42] <TrapperDave> Yea, RythmnBox runs fine.
[15:42] <pro-rsoft> sudo apt-get update always hangs at a certain time
[15:42] <pro-rsoft> at this step: 99% [46 Packages bzip2 0]
[15:43] <soulc> ok what would be the proper channel for mail/postfix questions?
[15:43] <bigsam> pro-rsoft, try strace
[15:43] <pro-rsoft> first control+c then strace?
[15:43] <chris___> hi folks
[15:44] <chris___> I'm in serious need of some help
[15:44] <bigsam> pro-rsoft, open another terminal, via ps obtain pid of apt-get ...
[15:44] <pro-rsoft> ah
[15:44] <chris___> my laptop just started lagging like crazy, and I can't find the reason
[15:44] <bigsam> pro-rsoft, and then strace -p <pid_of_proces>
[15:44] <pro-rsoft> ok thanks
[15:44] <chris___> there isn't a process that's lagging it down
[15:44] <chris___> firefox and gaim both crawl right after boot up
[15:44] <nemilar> chris___: where (hardware wise) do you suppose the bottleneck is?  RAM/SWAP? CPU? HDD?
[15:44] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: just a test::: run --> sudo amarok
[15:45] <pro-rsoft> bigsam, and then?
[15:45] <chris___> nemilar: I have 2GB of ram... maybe hard drive
[15:45] <chris___> I just replaced my hard drive
[15:45] <pro-rsoft> select(1, [0], NULL, NULL, NULL
[15:45] <bigsam> pro-rsoft, you will see what is process doing ..
[15:45] <pro-rsoft> thats what i get
[15:45] <nemilar> chris___: run 'top' in a terminal
[15:45] <TrapperDave> Ah; that seems to have worked.
[15:45] <pro-rsoft> well it does nothing bigsam
[15:45] <chris___> but it was working better than this after I replaced it
[15:45] <chris___> this was rather sudden
[15:45] <chris___> nemilar: okay, I'm running top
[15:45] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: ok close it. you dont want to run amarok as superuser.  now we're onto something
[15:45] <bigsam> pro-rsoft, it says to you that process is waiting for some event on some descriptor ..
[15:46] <nemilar> chris___: what's your system load average?  are there processes at the top, eating up all your resources?
[15:46] <TrapperDave> Done :)
[15:46] <bigsam> pro-rsoft, more with man select
[15:46] <chris___> ~.90
[15:46] <chris___> but as soon as I do something, it jumps to 2
[15:46] <nemilar> chris___: what process makes it jump?
[15:46] <chris___> .90 is when I'm using bitchx on a text terminal while X is completely idle
[15:46] <pro-rsoft> bigsam: no manual entry for select
[15:46] <chris___> nemilar: anything... firefox, gaim (pidgin)
[15:47] <nemilar> chris___: but is it those processes that appear in top, or is it something else? (e.g, if you're running Compiz, is it the Xgl process)
[15:47] <chris___> I can't even get X to redraw right now when I hit ctrl+atl+F7