[00:00] <wyclif> mouse: you can always drag-and-drop them on the desktop or delete them by right-clicking
[00:00] <glen__> hunahpu:  thanks
[00:00] <mouse> wyclif:  Will I regret deleting the computer desktop icon?
[00:01] <wyclif> mouse: No, because you can always add it back later
[00:01] <yokobr> http://pastebin.com/3Bvq9r9q
[00:01] <benkevan> mouse: no... it's not a 1 way forever thing
[00:01] <yokobr> plz, someone can tell me what is wrong
[00:01] <yokobr> http://pastebin.com/3Bvq9r9q
[00:01] <wyclif> yokobr: Just ask the question instead of asking to ask :D
[00:01] <mouse> wyclif:  I've already tried to add icons to the desktop but for some reason they don't stay after a reboot.  Any ideas?
[00:02] <yokobr> i've asked. I'm trying to configure a proxy, and it isn't working. Here are my configs http://pastebin.com/3Bvq9r9q
[00:02] <wyclif> mouse: What are you doing to add them?
[00:03] <mdg_> How do I get wallpapers I have downloaded into the wallpaper directory that Ubuntu uses, and how do I back that up so I don't lose any when I do a reinstall?
[00:03] <ert> hello,how to remove malvare
[00:03] <mouse> Well I go to places and just select whatever it is, usb flashdrive, cdrom, external hd, ect. and it opens a window and adds the icon to the desktop.
[00:04] <ert> hello,how to remove malvare
[00:04] <Ravahan> Hey guys. I have what I hope is a pretty simple question.... I've just upgraded to Karmic and I'm trying to uninstall Parallels Desktop because my CPU doesn't support virtualization.  I don't have the package file on my system anymore and I can't find it in synaptic... How can I go about getting rid of this?
[00:05] <Derath-Srvr> Quick question, will the PPC version of ubuntu be released on the same day as the regular x86's?
[00:05] <Myrtti> ert: what kind of malware
[00:05] <wyclif> mouse: Right-click on the desktop and select 'launcher'
[00:05] <wyclif> mouse: then select the app you want to launch from the desktop
[00:06] <ert> broken ware by me ,the soft doesnt work full anymore
[00:06] <will> Hey guys what is a really good compiler with a good GUI for C++?
[00:06] <Ravahan> I guess, to refine this, how can I uninstall a package without the package file if it doesn't show in synaptic or Add/Remove?
[00:07] <Browsing> to those that have a Barnes & Noble nook, do you guys know where it's made?
[00:07] <mdg_> Ravahan, can you see it via aptitude?
[00:07] <wyclif> Ravahan: have you tried grepping the package? Have you tried browsing your filesystem for the package?
[00:07] <Ravahan> I thought aptitude was just a terminal thing-- there's a GUI?
[00:08] <mdg_> Ravahan, its terminal thing
[00:08] <wyclif> Ravahan: yeah, it's a console-based GUI
[00:08] <yoko666> plz could someone help me with a proxy server, here are my confs http://pastebin.com/3Bvq9r9q
[00:08] <Ravahan> I can locate the folder of course.  The installer package isn't in there though..
[00:08] <wyclif> Ravahan: now that he mentions it, I highly recommend aptitude as well, very useful for such tasks
[00:08] <Ravahan> so I can't uninstall via package manager by double clicking it
[00:08] <mouse> wyclif:  I just want the media inputs to appear on the desktop at reboot.  It used to until I installed userful multiplier and that did all kinds of things I didn't think it would do.  I uninstalled it and ever since the icons that used to appear on my desktop stopped showing up at reboot.
[00:08] <rsr> hello
[00:09] <lost_> hio
[00:09] <mickster04> rsr: how do,
[00:09] <miked595> anyone familiar with iodine dns tunnel ?
[00:09] <Ravahan> Sweet!  I had no idea there was a GUI for aptitude.  Let me look around in here for a minute.
[00:09] <hunahpu> mdg_: /usr/share/backgrounds/
[00:09] <wyclif> mouse: Ooh. You got me. Never heard of that app.
[00:09] <rsr> hey mickster04...thanks for your help last time it worked
[00:09] <mickster04> rsr: excellent
[00:09] <lost_> someone has problem with adobe flash in ubuntu
[00:09] <mdg_> hunahpu, thanks!  Do I have to be root to copy stuff there?
[00:09] <richie086> mouse: have u tried to create a new user account and see if other user accounts have the same issue
[00:10] <mickster04> lost_: tell me sumat new:/ installed restricted-extras?
[00:10] <mouse> wyclif:  I wouldn't recommend it.  It takes control of too much of the system.
[00:10] <rsr> I have windows installed on a hard drive and now installed ubuntu but instead of grub asking me to boot linux or windows it just boots into ubuntu. How can I configure grub to detect windows partition??
[00:10] <lost_> mick some sites doesnt work
[00:10] <mouse> richie086:  No I haven't but I suppose I could.
[00:10] <mickster04> rsr termial>sudo update-grub
[00:10] <ert> hello,how to remove malvare
[00:10] <richie086> Im sure another user account would be fine
[00:11] <mickster04> lost_: error messages?
[00:11] <richie086> just depends if you want to migrate all your stuff over
[00:11] <mdg_> Ravahan, in a terminal type "aptitude show XXX"  where XXX is the name of the app - it will tell you if it thinks its installed or not.
[00:11] <lost_> mickster try that site privatefeeds.com sorry about bad contains
[00:12] <mouse> richie086:  I'm doing a search for any left over files that program may have left behind.  Maybe if I delete them things will return to normal.
[00:12] <mickster04> lost, youtube is down is it?
[00:12] <rsr> mickster04, ok let me try to boot it now
[00:12] <lost_> never it always worked to me
[00:12] <mickster04> lost_, youtube is down is it?
[00:12] <i-pink> hii
[00:13] <i-pink> how i can stream video on ubuntu?
[00:13] <richie086> mouse: its hard to say i dont know exactly what files might have been touched by that software you installed
[00:13] <mdg_> Ravahan, if it shows State: Installed, you can purge the files "aptitude purge XXX"\
[00:13] <mickster04> rsr: it should say if it found iwndows
[00:13] <Ravahan> mdg:  It says its unable to locate it.  Doesn't help that I don't know what the actual package name is, just the name of the app.  It shows in my Applications menu so I know its propperly installed.
[00:13] <nimbiotics> hello evry1, im trying 2 open a txt file that 128mb long w/gedit. it takes like forvever and finaly, it complains about the character set, what can i use to open such file?
[00:13] <mickster04> lost_: so what doesnt work with that site?
[00:13] <Ravahan> mdg:  I'm attempting to find out what the package name is now
[00:13] <i-pink> how i can stream video on ubuntu?
[00:13] <ert> hello,how to remove malvare
[00:14] <tatsel> mickster04: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[00:14] <mouse> richie086:  That's true.
[00:14] <mickster04> ert how did u install it?
[00:14] <mdg_> Ravahan, you can look in the update logs - a file that has dpkg in the name
[00:14] <i-pink> my webcam
[00:14] <lost_> mickster flash contains doesnt played any videos at all! but with vista it does!
[00:14] <i-pink> how i can stream video on ubuntu?
[00:14] <i-pink> my webcam
[00:14] <rsr> mickster04, aparently it didnt
[00:14] <ert> from a site
[00:14] <mickster04> tatsel: keep up man
[00:14] <ert> there was a link,comodo
[00:14] <tatsel> Hm?
[00:14] <trash80> hahaha
[00:14] <mickster04> tatsel: i didnt need to know if youtube was up, i needde to know why he linked me a porn site rather than say youtube to test flash
[00:15] <Ravahan> mdg: I've been in Windowsland for the last couple of months messing with a parser for a game I play, so this has been installed for quite a while with a "fuck it" attitude on my part.  Its a .run package
[00:15] <mickster04> lost_: so what doesnt work with that site?
[00:15] <thebruce> hey guys, im an ubuntu newb but has anyone gotten photoshop to run on 9.10
[00:15] <tatsel> mickster04: oh lol
[00:15] <mickster04> ert: a deb pavckage?
[00:15] <Ravahan> mdg: looks like parallels-desktop-4.0.6578.438874.run is probably it....
[00:15] <thebruce> in wine i imagine
[00:15] <lost_> mickster live streaming
[00:15] <nimbiotics> im trying 2 open a txt file that 128mb long w/gedit. it takes like forvever and finaly, it complains about the character set, what can i use to open such file?
[00:15] <Ravahan> mdg: from what I'm seeing on a how-to install guide here
[00:15] <mickster04> lost_: do you have anything else that isn't working
[00:15] <trash80> use gimp
[00:15] <richie086> thebruce: yeah its called the gimp
[00:15] <richie086> lol
[00:15] <thebruce> richie086, ha thanks
[00:15] <trash80> that's linux' way
[00:15] <lost_> mikkster nope not yet.
[00:15] <plytheman> Can someone tell me why my computer shut itself down while it was left alone this afternoon?  Relevent (afaik) part of log here: http://pastebin.com/D6syeNWL
[00:16] <mickster04> nimbiotics: terminal > nano text.txt
[00:16] <zaxonspox> nimbiotics you want to edit this file? can you use some steram editor like sed?
[00:16] <mickster04> lost_: then its the website
[00:16] <richie086> when is that new version of the gimp coming out where all the controls are going to be in a single window? i heard about that a few months back
[00:16] <ert> get rid off comodo internet security which is half deleted
[00:16] <nimbiotics> i just need to search some txt in it
[00:16] <Ravahan> mdg: Could I safely just delete the app folder and the Applications menu shortcuts?
[00:16] <i-pink> how i can stream video on ubuntu?
[00:16] <i-pink> my webcam
[00:16] <i-pink> how i can stream video on ubuntu?
[00:16] <i-pink> my webcam
[00:16] <FloodBot4> i-pink: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:16] <richie086> yeah we heard u the first time
[00:16] <ert> get rid off comodo internet security which is half deleted
[00:16] <mickster04> !ask | i-pink
[00:16] <nimbiotics> mickster04: will try nano, thx
[00:17] <lost_> mickster im using namoroka here
[00:17] <zaxonspox> nimbiotics then use grep
[00:17] <mickster04> nimbiotics: yeah use grep to search thru a text fin=le
[00:17] <i-pink> how i do it????
[00:17] <mickster04> lost_: nama what?
[00:17] <mouse> richie086:  Do you have a /usr/share/app-install/desktop/userful-control-panel.desktop file?
[00:17] <mickster04> !tab | lost_
[00:17] <ert> get rid off comodo internet security which is half deleted
[00:17] <mickster04> ert you can install comodo onto ubuntu?
[00:17] <plytheman> Can someone tell me why my computer shut
[00:17] <plytheman> it was left alone this afternoon?  Relev
[00:17] <plytheman> log here: http://pastebin.com/D6syeNWL
[00:17] <richie086> mouse: nope
[00:18] <nimbiotics> mickster04: there u r talking 2 me in russian again..
[00:18] <lost_> mickster i have to go i will be back tomorrow
[00:18] <yokobr666> hi guys... plz, i'm trying to set a proxy server but i can't
[00:18] <mdg_> Ravahan, also in Synaptic, under "File" there is a "History" section listing all the update activity month by month
[00:18] <mickster04> lost_: ok
[00:18] <mouse> richie086:  I'll assume that's not needed then.  Thank you very much.
[00:18] <plytheman> blah, that C&P failed.  My computer shut itself down this afternoon, can anyone tell me why? http://pastebin.com/D6syeNWL
[00:18] <mickster04> nimbiotics: use grep from terminal
[00:18] <yokobr666> my local network is on eth0, and dsl is on eth1
[00:18] <a514> lost how many women are on pfeeds?
[00:19] <Ravahan> mdg: Oh, that should be helpful.  I'll check that out.  Thanks, by the way.
[00:19] <mickster04> !ask | plytheman
[00:19] <mickster04> !PATIENCE | plytheman
[00:19] <mickster04> thats what i meant
[00:19] <plytheman> k
[00:19] <jose> not english
[00:19] <mdg_> Ravahan, you are welcome :)
[00:20] <decker> plytheman: this sounds bad:  ACPI: Critical trip point
[00:20] <j3d1> some can help me
[00:20] <decker> but who knows what the heck that means exactly
[00:20] <hexdump_> bah, does anybody know where the source for bin2iso is?
[00:20] <mickster04> !ask | j3d1
[00:20] <plytheman> decker: I can put more of the log up on pastebin if you need more.  any ideas?
[00:20] <rsr> mickster04, thanks once again!
[00:20] <snail> I've mounted a windows network share using the GUI and I want to translate that into something i can include in my fstab. there are lots of help pages on the web, but they all seem to be for a different version of the tools. can someone point me to the correct way to do this for karmic ?
[00:20] <mickster04> rsr: ?
[00:20] <decker> plytheman: screw with your bios so it doesn't do it again?  update it?  screw around with the acip settings perhaps?
[00:21] <j3d1> who kwon how delete the direct access icon from the the desktop
[00:21] <j3d1> i cant delete them
[00:21] <decker> snail: beats me, but I was always partial to autofs
[00:21] <mickster04> j3d1: just hide the icons?
[00:21] <j3d1> cant
[00:21] <plytheman> decker: no idea what could have caused it, let alone what to change to fix it.  As long as it means no one haxxed my computer though I'm not too worried
[00:21] <zaxonspox> j3d1 what is it an icon?
[00:21] <yokobr666> plz guys... i'm begging for help... it's 8:30 pm and i'm still at work =(  I really need to fix my internet sharing
[00:21] <j3d1> the icon is direct access to my home
[00:22] <tehbaut_> Help, I'm stuck in remote desktop viewer and I don't know the escape key sequence
[00:22] <nimbiotics> mickster04: "grep filename" i must guess ... now what?
[00:22] <decker> plytheman: well a bios update usually doesn't hurt.  usually, ha.  does have the potential to fry your motherboard so to speak.
[00:22] <j3d1> and recycle bin
[00:22] <a514> yoko ok
[00:22] <mickster04> nimbiotics: add the search item?
[00:22] <decker> yokobr666: bastille is pretty user friendly as far as that goes
[00:22] <a514> yoko do you use dhcp?
[00:22] <plytheman> decker: that would be a bummer...  its a pretty cheap pos laptop though, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was screwing up
[00:22] <snail> decker: is autofs suitable for a server situation?
[00:22] <nimbiotics> mickster04: will u plz type the command line 4 me? im  a complete noob ...
[00:22] <zaxonspox> j3d1 run terminal and type cd Destop
[00:23] <decker> snail: definitely.
[00:23] <zaxonspox> j3d1 *Desktop
[00:23] <mickster04> nimbiotics: i don't know it i dont use grep often
[00:23] <snail> decker: thanks i've foudn the homepage and will look into it
[00:23] <j3d1> i m there :P
[00:23] <j3d1> zaxonspox, i m there
[00:23] <nimbiotics> mickster04: thx...
[00:23] <zaxonspox> j3d1 then type ls you should get names for thoes icons
[00:24] <decker> snail: only problem I have with linux autofs, is when junk isn't mounted it doesn't show up.  say you have a /home/foo autofs mount.  in solaris you'd always see /home/foo.  in linux, not so.  only if it's mounted.
[00:24] <mickster04> nimbiotics: grep 'quite the' /usr/local/wsj/1994/*
[00:24] <j3d1> zaxonspox, yes but the links do not appears
[00:24] <mickster04> nimbiotics: just change the correct file name in there
[00:24] <decker> think the way I got around that was to make symlinks in /home to the actual autofs mount points.  or maybe that didn't work either....I forget.  anyhow, the only annoying thing.
[00:24] <Ravahan> mdg: Looks like its not in there.... Does Synaptic not record .run packages?
[00:25] <zaxonspox> j3d1 try ln -as
[00:25] <j3d1> zaxonspox, and i type ls -a for show the hide file and nothing happen
[00:25] <decker> not to me really.  but users, eh.  they'd always complain.  why don't I see /home/blah/blah/blah?  Because it's not mounted yet jerko!
[00:25] <mdg_> Ravahan, sorry I don't know....
[00:25] <yokobr666> decker, the problem is this. I have eth0 (local network) and eth1 (adsl).  Internet is ok on server, but it's not working with proxy.
[00:25] <decker> ha, they got used to it
[00:26] <Ravahan> mdg: Well can I expect any kind of problems from just deleting the application directory and Application menu shortcuts?
[00:26] <decker> yokobr666: well a proxy is a much different ballgame than just straight up internet sharing
[00:26] <Ravahan> mdg: I know in Windows I'd need to scour the registry for appropriate keys to propperly uninstall a program manually
[00:26] <mdg_> Ravahan, one last place to look  /var/log and look for files name "dpkg"
[00:26] <nimbiotics> mickster04: i got Binary file "/home/nimbiotics/Desktop/mj_dump.txt matches
[00:26] <nimbiotics> "
[00:26] <radament> purge doesn't remove the config files. the next reinstall will not generate the config files as a result of deleting them manually, anything I'm doing wrong? ubuntu 9.10 tomcat package
[00:27] <plytheman> decker: thanks for the advice on updating the bios!
[00:27] <decker> yokobr666: I really enjoyed ipcop I think when it came to proxys.  shoot, I think ipcop might even be debian based.  could be an option for you.
[00:27] <mickster04> nimbiotics: ?
[00:27] <bastid_raZor> mickster04: that would have been my 2 year old proving to the world she has learned to type.
[00:27] <mickster04> bastid_raZor: oic
[00:27] <yokobr666> decker, i just want a simple transparent proxy. Internet goes in in eth1, and got shared to all machines connected in eth0
[00:27] <decker> plytheman: well, the settings too don't forget.  you could have some apci junk enabled that linux doesn't support.  might want to look into any settings you don't understand
[00:27] <mickster04> preferably not on #ubuntu please
[00:27] <nimbiotics> mickster04: i got Binary file "/home/nimbiotics/Desktop/mj_dump.txt matches"
[00:28] <nimbiotics> mickster04: thats what i got after grep 's=ENSResip' /home/nimbiotics/Desktop/mj_dump.txt
[00:28] <mickster04> nimbiotics: http://www.unix-manuals.com/quicktips/unix/grep.html
[00:28] <decker> yokobr666: which is why I prefer the lazy route like ipcop and whatnot.  clark connect maybe?  redhat based I think.  but yeah, the easy route is nice.
[00:28] <nimbiotics> mickster04: k, thx, will try
[00:29] <j3d1> zaxonspox, cant dude :S
[00:29] <yokobr666> decker =(
[00:29] <j3d1> zaxonspox, the icon dont dessapear
[00:29] <Ravahan> mdg_: Looks like nothing relevant there
[00:29] <zaxonspox> j3d1 how do you made thes icons? :P
[00:29] <decker> yokobr666: supposing your sticking with debian here, I can't really help you off the top of my head.  understandable?  or ubuntu rather.  whatever.  same difference
[00:29] <yokobr666> i'm on ubuntu, decker
[00:30] <prappl93> How do I replace Evolution in the menu thing with Thunderbird?
[00:30] <decker> sorta what I said
[00:30] <brahim> hello evry one
[00:30] <meowbuntu> hi all
[00:30] <decker> prappl93: dunno if you'd really replace it...but you could uninstall evolution, and install thunderbird.  course uninstalling evolution might be problematic if you don't want a ton of other stuff uninstalled along with it
[00:30] <j3d1> zaxonspox, well :D the desktop was freeze ... then i kill Xorg and the desktop was restart and appear the icon sorry for my bad english
[00:31] <decker> prappl93: they have no problem coexisting though.
[00:31] <yokobr666> please, can anyone help me to make a simple transparent proxy
[00:31] <meowbuntu> what is the app for flash-media in firefox again
[00:31] <IdleOne> flashplugin-installer
[00:31] <zaxonspox> j3d1 can you click (select) them?
[00:31] <brahim> can some one help me with php & mysql?
[00:31] <Ravahan> mdg_: Well, I'm just going to delete the directory and shortcuts and if I fubar again I've got a disk lol
[00:31] <j3d1> zaxonspox, yes but the option delete dont appear T.T
[00:32] <mickster04> !ask | brahim
[00:32] <Ravahan> mdg_: Thanks for taking the time to help with my silly question
[00:32] <meowbuntu> IdleOne, thanks i drew a blank silly me
[00:32] <IdleOne> meowbuntu: no problem
[00:33] <zaxonspox> j3d1 do ls -al | grep <name_of_this_wired_file>
[00:33] <brahim> i want to access to a database drom an other server
[00:33] <brahim> heeelp plz
[00:33] <mickster04> brahim: this isnt the channel for that
[00:33] <zaxonspox> brahim describe more
[00:33] <lovinglinux> hi, anyone knows an aptitude download switch to ignore non-existent packages? I'm writing a script to download several packages, but if one package does not exists, the script fails.
[00:33] <j3d1> zaxonspox, let me try
[00:34] <decker> brahim: install a database client and/or code one, set it up, presto.
[00:34] <brahim> i have a mysql data base in 1&1.com
[00:34] <brahim> and i have an application
[00:34] <brah-> brahim I heard they were a bad webhost
[00:34] <brah-> your thoughts?
[00:34] <brahim> i want to access to the data base of the 1&1 server from an other server
[00:34] <decker> brahim: so figure out your username/password/access method, set up the client.  presto
[00:34] <brahim> yes i know but that for a bad client lol
[00:35] <brahim> no that dosn"t work
[00:35] <brahim> i have to add the ip of myserver in the my.cnf file
[00:35] <brahim> in host server
[00:35] <brahim> and i can't do that
[00:35] <brahim> only the host company can do that
[00:35] <vans> is there anything like an ubuntu firewall remix or something like that?
[00:35] <decker> brahim: talk to your admins then.
[00:36] <brahim> or i have to access with open ssh client
[00:36] <mickster04> brahim: host it yourelf?
[00:36] <meowbuntu> where do i get googlechrome from
[00:36] <brahim> im the admin
[00:36] <zaxonspox> brahim sudo apt-get install mysql-query-browser
[00:36] <mickster04> meowbuntu: sudo apt-get install google-chrome
[00:36] <brahim> i can i live in morocco we have bad connection
[00:36] <decker> vans: ipcop.  best of breed.  I'm telling you.  and I'm pretty sure it's debian based, yes.
[00:36] <rapha> how do you access one ubuntu pc's share with another? it always gives lots of error messages
[00:36] <brahim> zax... i have all that and the application work perfectly in the localhost
[00:36] <decker> I need to die of course if it's slackware though...
[00:37] <decker> one sec
[00:37] <meowbuntu> mickster04, cant its not an official package
[00:37] <j3d1> zaxonspox, nothing happens
[00:37] <mickster04> meowbuntu: chromium then
[00:37] <zaxonspox> j3d1 nothing were displayed?
[00:37] <brahim> pffff
[00:37] <tiziazrou> hi I got a problem on a hp pavillion dv9000
[00:37] <j3d1> zacx
[00:37] <brahim> very big problem with this server
[00:37] <prappl93> Who else is excited about 10.04?
[00:37] <j3d1> zaxonspox, nothing dude
[00:37] <budlust> is anyone familiar with getting wireless to work with lenovo thinkpad t400?
[00:37] <meowbuntu> mickster04, chromium is a game in ubuntu repos
[00:37] <decker> ha, smoothwall.  great.  so neither.  eh, still best of breed
[00:37] <meowbuntu> mickster04, you cant help
[00:37] <rapha> prappl93: me, already running it
[00:38] <zaxonspox> brahim did you tryed connecting thru php script?
[00:38] <tiziazrou> I cannot load at grub it enter in command line grub}
[00:38] <mickster04> meowbuntu: download the .deb then?
[00:38] <j3d1> zaxonspox, thx for u help
[00:38] <meowbuntu> mickster04, obviously you have not installed google chrome
[00:38] <prappl93> rapha, is it worth getting the thing in advanced or waiting the 2 weeks?
[00:38] <brahim> zaxon i be back
[00:38] <brahim> how can i add u?
[00:38] <brahim> to talk later
[00:38] <zaxonspox> brahim iam going to sleep
[00:38] <Guest31786> quit
[00:38] <brahim> me too
[00:38] <mickster04> meowbuntu:  i used the repos http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-chromium-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-using-deb-package.html
[00:38] <brahim> its to late
[00:39] <rapha> prappl93: i have beta2 installed on 3 pcs now and apart from some minor glitches it runs very solidly (just dont run any updates!!) - i would say it is worth mainly because of the new music store
[00:39] <H2O> sudo apt-get install google-chrome ?
[00:39] <mickster04> H2O: i tried that. meow isnt having it
[00:39] <tiziazrou> how do we enter to kernel
[00:39] <H2O> you can download a deb package from google chrome home page
[00:39] <meowbuntu> mickster04, then y not say that in first place instead of giving rong info
[00:40] <brahim> zaxons i add u good night evry body
[00:40] <jedi06> if i have a c++ file with using openssl stuff: #include <openssl/bio.h>, How do i link those files and compile?
[00:40] <zaxonspox> good night
[00:40] <mickster04> meowbuntu: sudo apt-get install google-chrome (this was said first)
[00:40] <meowbuntu> mickster04, you can install both google-chrome and chromium-browser if you like
[00:40] <bastid_raZor> !info google-chrome
[00:40] <mickster04> meowbuntu: i know i did it
[00:40] <H2O> mickster04: go to chrome's home page...a deb package should be listed 4 download there...
[00:40] <FriedrichMan> hello everyone
[00:41] <H2O> mickster04: i remember i installed it that way
[00:41] <mickster04> H2O: i have it installed
[00:41] <tiziazrou> mozilla rock google crap
[00:41] <mickster04> tiziazrou: ?
[00:41] <isrrael> hola alguien que escriba y entienda español}
[00:41] <H2O> so what's the problem :)
[00:41] <meowbuntu> mickster04, cant do that its not in official ubuntu repos you would need to ad a ppa to do that first duh
[00:41] <bastid_raZor> meowbuntu: they have a ppa you can add.. let me find the link
[00:41] <grndslm> is it just me, or is canonical starting to make piss-poor decisions with ubuntu?
[00:41] <ricardo_krieg> hello
[00:41] <will> Hola isrrael
[00:41] <FriedrichMan> i am trying to install linux on a entium 3 and the install doesn't find my network interface
[00:41] <isrrael> qk hay will
[00:41] <mickster04> meowbuntu: well seeing as you know how to do it, do it rather then wastin our time
[00:41] <decker> jedi06: cmake is rather nice.  autotools are sorta the insanity that's standard though.  manually?   add a "-L/some/junk -ljunklib" to your link step
[00:41] <FriedrichMan> I tried with a wireless adapter but doesn't recognize it neither
[00:41] <isrrael> soy nuevo en ubuntu
[00:41] <FriedrichMan> what shouldI do?
[00:41] <mickster04> meowbuntu: did you even try the google chrome site?
[00:42] <will> trankilo ah yo igual tengo varios meses usando ubuntu pero se varias cosas
[00:42] <H2O> mickster04: what exactly is your problem(question)?
[00:42] <will> necesita ayuda con algo?
[00:42] <tiziazrou> mickster04 what I put in command line to boot
[00:42] <mickster04> h2 i dont have one?
[00:42] <Myrtti> !es | will, isrrael
[00:42] <meowbuntu> mickster04, i wwas asking where to get it i cant find it that easy on dialup
[00:42] <H2O> ;) oh...sry then ;)
[00:42] <bastid_raZor> meowbuntu: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa  if you want daily build or .. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-chromium-google-chrome-web-browser-in-ubuntu.html
[00:43] <decker> meowbuntu: eh, I still don't like you
[00:43] <meowbuntu> thanks bastid_raZor someone at least likes helping
[00:43] <isrrael> lo k quiero es conocer gente
[00:43] <jhambo> How do I make it so that I can have two monitors with an extended desktop?  grandr wont let me do "extended" it will only do "clone"...
[00:43] <isrrael> igual gracia adios
[00:43] <mickster04> bastid_raZor: so much for gratitude
[00:43] <FriedrichMan> is there anyone who can help
[00:43] <H2O> shouldn't you ppl google for your question first and then come to ask questions here if google brings no luck?
[00:43]  * meowbuntu wonders y decker is like that
[00:44] <bsharitt> I used to USB startup disk creator to make a 10.04 beta 2 usb bootable drive. It's taking about 45-60 minutes to actually boot to where I can start the install. Is that a know issue?
[00:44] <mickster04> H2O: yeah...but he's on dialup and was too lazy to try....
[00:44] <H2O> bsharitt: tried using unetbootin?
[00:44] <Myrtti> !lucid | bsharitt
[00:44] <meowbuntu> decker mind your own bisunes.
[00:45] <tiziazrou> I have read the dock but 'kernel' alone doesnt work it need something with it
[00:45] <will> Lucid Lynx is a pretty sick name
[00:45]  * meowbuntu loves decker
[00:45] <cam_>  does anyone remember what the linux package is called that allowed you to move your mouse from a linux monitor off to the left and it would appear on a windows controlled monitor?
[00:45] <H2O> i agree ;)
[00:45] <H2O> ?
[00:46] <decker> H2O: A. google isn't perfect.  B. I used to be a newb so I get it.  long as they don't hit and run with the questions or repeat them every 5 seconds it's cool by me.  C.  I like helping the newbs out once and again.  hence my reason for being here.
[00:46] <H2O> wine? ;)
[00:46] <H2O> decker: :) good point
[00:46] <decker> meowbuntu: eh, I still hate your guts.  but yeah, I shouldn't be a jerkaholic.  but too late. fine.
[00:46] <H2O> i like to help too...as long as i can
[00:47] <mrwes> heh
[00:48] <meowbuntu> decker, y hate me i done nothing to you
[00:48] <decker> cam_: doesn't sound like one app so much as having something like vmware or the like running on some other desktop
[00:48] <decker> meowbuntu: your memory is shorter than mine.  forget it.  you're my pal.  forever and always.  let's get a beer.
[00:49] <H2O> lol ;)
[00:49] <tehbaut> can anyone help me get out of full screen vnc viewer?
[00:49] <mickster04> tehbaut: move your mouse to the middle top...
[00:49] <mrwes> esc key?
[00:49] <decker> theBruno: ctrl-alt-esc off the top of my head?
[00:49] <Disk1of5> hey all, quick question.. is there a way to set X11 to re-size a output to a specific resolution.. for example my netbook has a 1024x600 but i would like x to give me a higher resolution but scale the output to 1024x600  ... is this possible?
[00:50] <tehbaut> mrwes: nope, tried it
[00:50] <mrwes> tehbaut, ctrl + F
[00:50] <tehbaut> cannot find documentation on it anywhere
[00:50] <hell0> i need to enable identd
[00:50] <hell0> can someone help me
[00:51] <tehbaut> mrwes: nope, that triggers find in my remote machine's browser
[00:51] <decker> Disk1of5: course.  or at least how it always used to be.  you kinda scroll around and the whole desktop would more
[00:51] <cam_> decker: Hi! ... its not vmware, I used it a few years ago, its on the tip of my tongue... linux nams for apps can be a little bizzare!
[00:51] <linx|> virtualbox ?
[00:51] <Disk1of5> decker, 1536x900 X11 would scale down to 1024x600 just causing thing to be small..
[00:51] <linx|> qemu?
[00:52] <ert> remove error soft from applications>windows applications
[00:52] <ert> remove error soft from applications>windows applications
[00:52] <mrwes> tehbaut, documentation says ESC key
[00:52] <ert> remove error soft from applications>windows applications
[00:52] <n2diy> why doesn't findsmb see my roomates Win laptop?
[00:52] <tehbaut> mickster04: ah I missed your message there
[00:52] <Disk1of5> decker, thats 1024x600 * 1.5 keeping the output aspec
[00:52] <mrwes> http://wiki.videolan.org/QtHotkeys
[00:52] <tehbaut> that's the ticket, thanks :)
[00:52] <decker> Disk1of5: eh, some things always confused me.  linux sound and X.  but yeah, used to be possible
[00:52] <_stryk3r> Okay so, I've been having problems with my wifi. It drops once and a while and the speed is nowhere near what it should be. How can I check for problems? (yes i have lucid)
[00:53] <cam_> decker: found it ...just came to me ... been searching for hours http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
[00:53] <H2O> i've got a question... why does conky on ubuntu startup show big fonts...until i open the config file and save it again??? then the font size is normal again... weird.. anyone?
[00:53] <tehbaut> mrwes: I just needed to move the mouse to the top center for a little menu to drop down :)
[00:53] <mrwes> tehbaut, ahh yah :)
[00:53] <decker> cam_: regardless, some virtualization app and switching to it are two seperate things
[00:54] <marienz> ert: you're lost. This is #ubuntu, it can't help you with windows problems.
[00:54] <budlust> is anyone familiar with getting wireless to work on lenovo thinkpad t400?
[00:55] <marienz> (well, perhaps they'll help you install ubuntu, but I'm assuming that's not the kind of answer you're after)
[00:55] <ert> yes it is ubuntu but vine problem windows
[00:55] <Salva1> Hello. I want to know If an Ubuntu server installation is like a Desktop one but with less things.
[00:55] <mickster04> marienz: might be crossover
[00:55] <marienz> ahh
[00:55] <marienz> ert: is there anything interesting installed in your wine install?
[00:55] <decker> budlust: sure.  run network manager and an up to date kernel.  about as good as it gets I say
[00:56] <hell0> Can someone help me to enable identd?
[00:56] <ert> like what
[00:56] <H2O> Salva1: a server installation is for setting up a server
[00:56] <H2O> it's not for desktop use
[00:56] <mrwes> !server
[00:56] <marienz> ert: any software in the wine "c:" drive, or anything interesting in applications -> windows applications?
[00:56] <hell0> !ident
[00:56] <decker> hell0: is that a serious question?  install xinetd, edit a bit of junk, restart xinetd, done.  what the flip you need identd for though?
[00:56] <marienz> ert: because if you really can't find a better solution you could just remove your ~/.wine and reinstall your windows apps.
[00:57] <marienz> ert: (don't do that yet, of course, there may be a friendlier solution)
[00:57] <H2O> !xftfont
[00:57] <H2O> ;)
[00:57] <hell0> tried oidentd pident
[00:57] <tiziazrou> nobody got a solution???
[00:57] <ert> comodo in windows ,but broken doesnt work,want to delete gives error
[00:57] <Salva1> Is there some kind of base install, then?
[00:57] <mickster04> tiziazrou: you have a problem
[00:57] <cam_> decker: I never mentioned you switched to it. you just move your mouse of the the monitor that has Linux on it and it appears on the the other box which maybe windows or Mac ... it uses magic  !
[00:58] <Salva1> Without even X.org.
[00:58] <H2O> Salva1 there is yes
[00:58] <decker> hell0: gah. there are always multiple alternatives.  a curse and a blessing.  but xinetd is standard.
[00:58] <mickster04> ?
[00:58] <Salva1> How can I do it?
[00:58] <H2O> Salva1: it's called a CLI installation
[00:58] <H2O> but then you'll have to compile everything yourself i thinks
[00:58] <ert> i cant find,have been using this since yesterday
[00:58] <Salva1> I mean, to not install a GUI.
[00:58] <H2O> think
[00:58] <IdleOne> Salva1: use the server install disc
[00:59] <hell0> decker, it's installed
[00:59] <Salva1> It is what I am doing.
[00:59] <H2O> you want a system with no desktop enviroment?
[00:59] <H2O> install gentoo ;9
[00:59] <Salva1> But some says it is specifically for server usage.
[00:59] <H2O> ;)
[01:00] <Salva1> I want an ubuntu base system.
[01:00] <IdleOne> Salva1: well yes but you can use the server install as your main desktop if you like
[01:00] <Salva1> Like Debian allows.
[01:00] <mickster04> Salva1: get a minimal system
[01:00] <mickster04> !ubuntu minimal
[01:00] <IdleOne> !minimal > Salva1
[01:00] <mickster04> IdleOne: cheers
[01:00] <DanDare> What´s a good partition size for Ubuntu (not including swap space)? Plan is to have /boot /home and everything else in this same partition
[01:00] <decker> Salva1: ubuntu is debian.  learn the ropes jerko
[01:00] <Salva1> Well, Thanks.
[01:00] <decker> or stop trolling'
[01:00] <H2O> DanDare: the more, the better
[01:00] <DanDare> ubuntu is not debian
[01:00] <IdleOne> decker: be polite please
[01:01] <bastid_raZor> !debian | decker
[01:01] <decker> IdleOne: too late
[01:01] <decker> way too late
[01:01] <IdleOne> !guidelines > decker
[01:01] <tiziazrou> is base on debian but is different
[01:01] <DanDare> H2O, i know... but it´s a dual boot system and need plan the HDD
[01:01] <H2O> how much you want to give it max?
[01:01] <ert> remove error soft from applications>windows applications
[01:02] <H2O> i'd say 10Gb should be enough? if you plan not to store anything big in it
[01:02] <hell0> no ident responde
[01:02] <hell0> s
[01:02] <decker> ha, christ.  relax.  or kick me now.  my style aint going to change much.  ask my bud meowbuntu
[01:02] <DanDare> H2O, 2GB? j/k, i really dont know, i need the min space to have the common apps for general use, and GIMP an OpenOffice. Do you think 15Gb it´s ok ?
[01:02] <ProfessorBacon> harnf dernf jerb
[01:03] <IdleOne> decker: your style is not the problem, it is your attitude. please adjust it to what is acceptable in Ubuntu irc channels
[01:03] <decker> ProfessorBacon: YES
[01:03] <H2O> DanDare: i told you...10 gb is more than enough
[01:03] <DanDare> H2O, nice.. not anything big in it.. so i think i will go for 15Gb
[01:03] <DanDare> nice
[01:03] <DanDare> 10GB so
[01:03] <mickster04> DanDare: i have a 6 gig ubuntu partition
[01:03] <tiziazrou> 32gb is the minimum for an os
[01:03] <ProfessorBacon> chornf!
[01:03] <H2O> DanDare ok than make 15 :)
[01:03] <mickster04> tiziazrou: rubbish
[01:03] <H2O> if you can
[01:03] <decker> IdleOne: semantics
[01:03] <H2O> tiziazrou: ???
[01:03] <DanDare> H2O, many thanks
[01:03] <tatsel> tiziazrou: really?
[01:03] <H2O> DanDare: ;) np
[01:04] <tiziazrou> nobody answer me so I help people
[01:04] <DanDare> 800Mb is the minimum for an OS
[01:04] <DanDare> ouch, i mean, 50Mn
[01:04] <DanDare> 8Mb maybe? :p
[01:04] <H2O> depends on the os ;)
[01:04] <mickster04> DanDare: puppy linux is 50
[01:04] <DanDare> 120Mn sounds ok for an OS
[01:04] <Coded1_> im running 9.10 in Gnome using Network on my own box, my wpa password was pretty crazy and I lost it, the network is connected to automatically when I click it.  I want to connect my iphone now after I reinstalled the OS but don't have the key, is there a way I can recover it ?
[01:05] <grishnav> Coded1_: if you don't have a lot of devices, why not just set a new key?
[01:05] <DanDare> grub installation will ruin windows7 boot capability ?
[01:05] <maxxist> Coded1_, change the wireless password on your router?
[01:05] <mickster04> Coded1_: right-click network manager icon>edit wireless settings>networkSSID>security>show password
[01:06] <mickster04> DanDare: replace it?
[01:06] <Coded1_> mickster04, ty
[01:06] <DanDare> mickster04, yeah? it will replace win7 bootloader ?
[01:06] <DanDare> or they reside in different sectors ?
[01:06] <IdleOne> DanDare: yes grub will replace the windows boot loader
[01:06] <mickster04> DanDare: i think so, or chain load to it
[01:06] <H2O> Coded1_: you can follow mickster04 advice and then log in to your router management page and change the password to something more easy perhaps? ;)
[01:06] <tatsel> for a recent Ubuntu/Windows  install, you need 4GB for system files plus at least 5GB for user filed
[01:07] <tatsel> files*
[01:07] <DanDare> ok... so how it´s the painless way to get a dualboot this way ?
[01:07] <IdleOne> DanDare: grub will offer the choice of which OS you want to boot
[01:07] <DanDare> just installing Ubuntu thing goes OK? I know it´s ok when the other is WinXP but not sure about win7
[01:07] <mickster04> DanDare: install grub, go into ubuntu and run sudo updat-grub from terminal
[01:08] <H2O> DanDare: first make 1 partition with winXp disk and install it on
[01:08] <mickster04> DanDare: no problem
[01:08] <H2O> DanDare: and then make the linux partitions with the remaining space
[01:08] <wasutton3> does anyone know of a non outdated rapidshare command line downloader?
[01:08] <DanDare> allright, let´s try all of this
[01:08] <bsmith093> if i want to back up my encryption keys can i just backup the .gnupg folder in my home folder or is there something special i have to do
[01:08] <H2O> DanDare: then linux is installed grub loader will automaticaly find the XP entry as well and it will let you choose what OS you want to boot
[01:09] <nebiros> hi, how to change tty keyborad layout? there's some console command for it?
[01:09] <bsmith093> ive never heard of a cli rapidshare dloader
[01:09] <bsmith093> rdown for firefox is pretty good
[01:09] <bsmith093> or jdownloader
[01:09] <bsmith093> which is java
[01:10] <H2O> DanDare: if you do it the other way around...windows will overwright grub and you won't be able to boot in linux untill you reinstall and configure grub
[01:10] <bsmith093> install windows then linux
[01:10] <bsmith093> thats much easier
[01:10] <H2O> yes, that's what i'm saying....
[01:10] <wasutton3> bsmith093: i already have one rapidshare going on this computer, i would like one on my headless server as well
[01:10] <bsmith093> do u have a premuim account
[01:10] <mickster04> wasutton3: what's stopping you?
[01:10] <bsmith093> if not it wont work for the same ip
[01:11] <meowbuntu> decker, i dont get it mate
[01:11] <wasutton3> no premium account. but the server is in another state. mickster04: the lack of a gui means i need a cli interface
[01:11] <bsmith093> and could someone please answer my encryption question please
[01:11] <lyrae> ubuntu keeps randomly logging me out
[01:11] <mickster04> !patience | bsmith093
[01:11] <mickster04> wasutton3: an it is gui only?
[01:12] <mickster04> wasutton3: is it open source? you could looka t the code:D
[01:12] <bsmith093> wasutton: interesting problem
[01:12] <mickster04> bsmith093: you can install xserver onto the server...
[01:12] <wasutton3> pretty much. mickster: rapidshare is a website that hosts files (rather anal in the way it does it for nonpaying users too)
[01:12] <chalcedony> bsmith093, had you considered asking the support for the encryption?
[01:13] <chalcedony> bsmith093, you seem quite valuable here
[01:13] <bsmith093> where
[01:13] <bsmith093> haha not really im a talented noob
[01:13] <mickster04> wasutton3: : you can install xserver onto the server...
[01:13] <bsmith093> ubuntu for about a year
[01:13] <chalcedony> bsmith093, you picked up a little :)
[01:13] <mickster04> wasutton3: i know what rapid share is i meant the program
[01:13] <wasutton3> mickster04: its a tiny little underpowered itx board thats probably got too much running on it as is
[01:13] <meowbuntu> i dont get this ubuntu will not losd flash drives what is going on
[01:14] <wasutton3> mickster04: thats what im looking for, a cli rapidshare downloader
[01:14] <sophiade> ytiuhuhj
[01:14] <decker> meowbuntu: yeah, well, chill on #fedora again and be a prick, and get kicked?  or almost kicked?  nah, kicked was it?  bah, yeah, for some reason I remember myself hating your guts.  so yeah, hope your mom gets cancer
[01:14] <chalcedony> bsmith093, actually i was looking at how to get www.gnupg.org/ .. looks like no easy apt-get things?
[01:15] <mickster04> wasutton3: you could make oe if the program is open source
[01:15] <IdleOne> !ops | decker
[01:15] <meowbuntu> decker, i have never used #fudora
[01:15] <bsmith093> chalcedonty what do u mean
[01:15] <decker> meowbuntu: please
[01:15] <wasutton3> bsmith093: can you see the keys you want to back up in applications-> accessories->passwords and encryption keys?
[01:16] <chalcedony> bsmith093, maybe i didn't see it, i got like lists of stuff not 1 thing
[01:16] <wasutton3> mickster04: i suppose, i was just curious if anyone knew of one right off the bat
[01:16] <mickster04> wasutton3: fairynuff
[01:17] <bsmith093> chalcedony: i still dont understand
[01:17] <bsmith093> afk temporarily
[01:18] <meowbuntu> how do i get ubuntu to read my flashdrives its not working
[01:18] <chalcedony> ok bsmith093 .. is there a place on that page to just download?
[01:18] <meowbuntu> i have tryed several
[01:18] <chalcedony> meowbuntu which version of ubuntu?
[01:19] <bsmith093> oh ok i get it no u have a program installed by default called seahorse
[01:19] <darkzenlord> anyone on?
[01:19] <meowbuntu> 9.10 new insftall yesterday
[01:19] <IdleOne> darkzenlord: yup we are here
[01:19] <meowbuntu> ^ chalcedony,
[01:19] <Kajros> Anyone tried running Ubuntu 10.04 Beta using VMWare?
[01:19] <IdleOne> !lucid | Kajros
[01:19] <bsmith093> app menu accessories passwords and ec=ncryption keys
[01:19] <darkzenlord> cool, glad to see some ubuntu fans
[01:20] <chalcedony> meowbuntu, on 8.04 i had a LOT of trouble with flashdrives. i had hoped they fixed that
[01:20] <Kajros> #ubuntu+1
[01:20] <meowbuntu> chalcedony, i have never come across this before but this is a nother computer i not tested ubuntu on before
[01:20] <IdleOne> Kajros: /join #ubuntu+1 is the command
[01:20] <meowbuntu> chalcedony, they have
[01:20] <wasutton3> bsmith093: from there you should be able to export your keys
[01:20] <DcMeese> Anybody know a good way to automate a location on a device within nautilus that changes its IP address on each connect?
[01:20] <darkzenlord> after my install issues I should have used a virtual install
[01:20] <DanDare> ok H2O, thanks once more
[01:20] <meowbuntu> my friend had xp on it before and it workid fine
[01:21] <meowbuntu> any ideas
[01:21] <IdleOne> DcMeese: you mean a remote server? you can use dyndns to give you a static ip
[01:21] <mickster04> meowbuntu: buy a new computer?
[01:21] <DanDare> in real life im used to WinXP/Linux dualboot, not sure tought how grub can affect Win7 boot... it seems same stuff as if it were XP...
[01:21] <meowbuntu> mickster04, there is no need its probably something simple to fix
[01:22] <nebiros> there's some tool for command line tu configure keyboard?
[01:22] <nebiros> *to
[01:22] <IdleOne> Kajros: /join #ubuntu+1 is the command
[01:22] <meowbuntu> mickster04, give me 1600 so i can get a mac adn its a deal
[01:22] <will> lol
[01:22] <bastid_raZor> meowbuntu: this isn't a solution for automount but mount them manually? after you plug them in type dmesg | tail ..this will tell you what ubuntu sees them as.. then sudo mount /dev/whatdmesgsaid /media/mountpoint
[01:22] <meowbuntu> that is $1600
[01:22]  * mickster04 gives meowbuntu 1600
[01:22] <IdleOne> !ot
[01:23] <meowbuntu> thanks bastid_raZor
[01:23] <meowbuntu> mickster04, dont pretend give it to me for real
[01:23] <bastid_raZor> meowbuntu: you need to change two things in that command.. do you know which they are?
[01:23] <chalcedony> bsmith093, ok yes seahorse seems to be storage, but how do you run it?
[01:23] <meowbuntu> bastid_raZor, no
[01:24] <darkzenlord> I am here for support of course, I have an install issue and it deals with a raid 0 config and 2 additional hard drives, if you think you can help, private chat or something.
[01:24] <tiger1> hey guys, i can use xna with mono under linux?
[01:24] <bastid_raZor> meowbuntu: /dev/stuff here  .. and /media/stuff here
[01:24] <tigrang> how can  I change my DPI for X in 9.10? xdpinfo | grep resolution is giving me 114x114 I'd like to set it to 96x96. When I add it under Screen section in xorg.conf I can't get to GDM anymore and have to do dpkg-reconfigure and I dont have a Monitor section in my xorg.conf
[01:25] <meowbuntu> bastid_raZor, http://www.pastebin.org/152972
[01:25] <mickster04> tiger1: you can code it with appropriate syntax highlighting, but i doubt u can compile it
[01:25] <sharperguy> Anyone know what package I should install to get libjpeg.h?
[01:25] <rosco_y> Can anyone explain this comment that I found out on mono-project.com/ubuntu:   http://imagebin.ca/view/bq_LvQ-G.html
[01:25] <bastid_raZor> meowbuntu: you have issues with that usb thumbdrive. what they are i don't know.
[01:26] <thebruce> anyone here have a way to get the mx5500 keyboard to work with ubuntu as far as the media notifications and multimedia buttons
[01:26] <mickster04> meowbuntu: are you sure it isnt the device, do other ones work
[01:26] <meowbuntu> bastid_raZor, it has no issues works on my other computer fine
[01:26] <no1peanut> is there a way to copy the access rights from one file to another from the commandline ?
[01:26] <tiger1> hey guys, i can use xna with mono under linux?
[01:26] <mickster04> tiger1: you can code it with appropriate syntax highlighting, but i doubt u can compile it
[01:26] <meowbuntu> mickster04, no other devices dont work either
[01:26] <bastid_raZor> meowbuntu: you need to figure out what those errors mean.
[01:27] <bastid_raZor> meowbuntu: are you using 10.04?
[01:27] <meowbuntu> basil, 9.10
[01:27] <thebruce> when can we expect a stable release os 10.4
[01:27] <mickster04> !lucid
[01:27] <tigrang> nevermind, sorry, found the new way to do it
[01:28] <maike-makoto> hello folks
[01:28] <maike-makoto> who's from mexico
[01:28] <meowbuntu> bastid_raZor, , 9.10
[01:28] <Guest51098> any idea how to hide the menu bar in 10.04?
[01:28] <cam_> Is xna the game thing?
[01:28] <darkzenlord> I installed ubuntu 9.10 on a seperate HD on a partition I created, my computer boots to my XP and now I don't see the drive ubuntu installed on. any help?
[01:28] <mickster04> Guest51098: right click>prefernces
[01:28] <mickster04> cam_: yeah
[01:28] <Guest51098> the main menu bar, I have the panels bar gone
[01:29] <meowbuntu> Guest51098,  join #ubuntu+1 thats the channel for the next pre-release
[01:29] <mickster04> darkzenlord: it wil be partitioned with ext, which isnt readily readable by windows
[01:29] <Guest51098> I'm using AWN's dock for all my stuff but you can';t use sessions in 9.10+
[01:29] <cam_> Its a microsoft thing ... wouldnt you need silverlight .... (or moonlight for linux)
[01:29] <maike-makoto> this is a request channel?
[01:30] <maike-makoto> good
[01:30] <mickster04> cam what xna?
[01:30] <maike-makoto> i'm new here
[01:30] <meowbuntu> Guest51098, did you get that
[01:30] <mickster04> cam_: which XNA?
[01:30] <maike-makoto> i'm mike, from los mochis, mexico.
[01:30] <sharperguy> maike-makoto, What do you mean "request channel"?
[01:30] <Guest51098> yes, but the issue is for 9.10 as well
[01:30] <BlkDrgn> hello all, im having an issue that i was wondering if anyone else was having too, #ubuntu-bugs seems to be dead atm
[01:30] <meowbuntu> bastid_raZor, what now
[01:30] <cam_> mickster04: yeah ... microsoft aint it?
[01:30] <sharperguy> !welcome | maike-makoto
[01:30] <darkzenlord> mickster04 I had two partitons on this disk, one NTFS and one was formatted EXT4 when I installed ubuntu
[01:30] <Guest51098> the option, which I've read is by disabling the gnome-menu in sessions, is gone in 9.10
[01:31] <mickster04> cam_: yes, but it isnt silverlight, its xbox game coding
[01:31] <BlkDrgn> i downloaded and burned to disk the 10.04 beta 2 today, and i cannot boot into it, eithor by "try first" or "install".. was hoping someone else expierenced this too
[01:31] <mickster04> BlkDrgn: ubuntu+1
[01:31] <Guest51098> ok, I need the 9.10+ equivalent to gnome-session-remove gnome-panel
[01:31] <mickster04> BlkDrgn: #ubuntu+1
[01:31] <tehbaut> is there a better client than vino's on ubuntu?
[01:31] <meowbuntu> bastid_raZor, think i will go check bios now brb
[01:31] <tehbaut> it's really slow and not very configurable
[01:31] <BlkDrgn> k
[01:32] <bsmith093> do i have to sign the pgp key i just created b4 i publish it
[01:32] <maike-makoto> who know about fedora? o the fedora channel, I've some doubts about it
[01:32] <mickster04> darkzenlord: yeag windows cant read ext.
[01:33] <no1peanut> is there a way to copy the access rights from one file to another from the commandline ?
[01:33] <darkzenlord> mickster04 but the whole drive? and do you think ubuntu can't see my xp OS becuase it's on a raid?
[01:33] <cam_> mickster04: oh ... i had heard about it ... not sure, didnt realise it was Xbox only ... I'm a PS3 guy mayself ... thanks for putting me straight
[01:33] <mickster04> darkzenlord: window cant see the whole drive, same on my pc, but ubuntu can read ntfs
[01:34] <mickster04> cam_: is ok, i have developed with it before, and it isnt bad
 ok
[01:36] <BlkDrgn> #ubuntu+1  doesnt have anyone alive or awake atm.. anywhere else i can look for assistance?
[01:36] <mickster04> darkzenlord: ta
[01:37] <mickster04> darkzenlord: so tell me what doesnt matter etc?
 even though I can not see the drive in windows, why would my system not prompt me for duel boot?
[01:38] <mickster04> darkzenlord: cos windows cant read the drive, nor can its boot loadr, grub works with both windows AND linux so use that
 ok, that makes sense, so how do I set up grub to see all my drives and prompt? that would be the question right?
[01:39] <mickster04> darkzenlord: you have to install it (if you install ubuntu last it works by itself)
 see I did install last, thing is my XP OS is on a RAID 0
[01:39] <tgp1994> Hi everyone, got an odd problem with WINE where it tries to start up my program, but the GUI never actually comes up.
[01:39] <Ravahan> Hello everyone, I'm back again with a little more frustration.  I used to play FFXI through Ubuntu via Wine on the regular.  After a recent (?) update, whenever I go to login PlayOnline gives me a black screen with the elevator music.  I've been messing around with it for the last couple hours...  Anyone have FFXI working in Ubuntu Karmic?
 I did not load any drivers for ubuntu
[01:39] <mickster04> darkzenlord: does grub show the ubuntu set up?
[01:40] <mickster04> xpdarkzenlord: and does it boot e
[01:40] <mickster04> cp
[01:40] <mickster04> xp**
 I restarted twice and didn't even get a prompt for grub or ubuntu, I am not even sure how to get into ubuntu at this point
[01:41] <BlkDrgn> anyone know where i can find help with 10.04 not booting?
[01:41] <mickster04> darkzenlord: well reinstall ubuntu, im not sure about how the raid will effect hting
[01:41] <mickster04> things
[01:41] <cam_> tgp1994: Have you manually set a desktop size in wine config?
[01:41] <Ravahan> No one here has a working version of FFXI in Ubuntu Karmic?
[01:41] <mickster04> BlkDrgn: /join #ubuntu+1
[01:41] <tgp1994> cam_: No, and I'll brb.
 is it common for ubuntu to NOT specify the drive letters and names during install?
[01:42] <The_Explorer> Hello everyone. What is a package for gnome +tools (Nautilus, Ubuntu extras, etc...) -GDM (I dont want GDM to boot)
[01:42] <mickster04> darkzenlord: yeah, ubtunu does use drive letters
[01:42] <no1peanut> darkzenlord: "fix mbr ubuntu grub xp" into google
[01:42] <mickster04> no1peanut: good solution...google it:D
[01:43] <The_Explorer> go to console and type "firefox google (stuff)"
[01:43] <pythags12> how do i write a script file to control fan speed on startup..
[01:43] <pythags12> what is the procedure
[01:44] <mickster04> The_explorer best not ey...
 one more thing, I would really like the second partition on the test drive to be NTFS so I can back up to it, how would I get that back? or does ubuntu take over the disk?
[01:44] <mickster04> darkzenlord: you can tell ubuntu how you want it partitioned, you can make as many partitions as physically possible
[01:45] <mickster04> darkzenlord: during the install
 Yeah during install I told ubuntu to use the 40Gb partition I set-up, seems like it did, but the 192Gb left over are not showing up either in windows
 I formatted the 40Gb portion in EXT4
[01:46] <mickster04> well you have to format that too:/ windows wont show non formatted partitions (which it concideres ext to be i recon)
[01:46] <mickster04> darkzenlord: thats fine
[01:46] <cam_> pythags12: not sure of the exact answer but you might want to try the lmsensors package, this will allow you to atleast read the current fan speed ... and maybe change it
[01:47] <g33kergRL> how do i change the font in my terminal
 also is it safe to use a NTFS partiton for the virtual memory
 or will it zap that too?
[01:47] <mickster04> darkzenlord: ? virtual memory? you mean swap? cos that formats as swap , neither ext or ntfs nor fat
[01:48] <trash80> swap file i guess
[01:48] <darkzenlord> ok, glad I didn't select any
 yes swap file
[01:48] <darkzenlord> lol
[01:48] <mickster04> darkzenlord: yeah swap will get formatted as swap so it didnt matter
[01:48] <trash80> nobody needs a swap space, ram is cheap
[01:48] <Jordan_U> darkzenlord: Yes, you can use a swap file stored on an ntfs partition.
[01:48] <mickster04> whoever was askig about moving the mouse across diffeent computers is asking about http://code.google.com/p/synergy-plus/
[01:49] <rosco_y>       what is a good music player to install to play my cd's ?
[01:49] <g33kergRL> how do i change the font in my terminal
[01:49] <rosco_y> g33kergRL: I think you do it in preferences
[01:49] <g33kergRL> font type
[01:50] <rado1> I am trying to copy the files from an old ubuntu system, but it is saying I don't have permissions, how do I do it?
[01:50] <cam_> pythags12: you can use pwmconfig which i think is part of lmsensors package ... if you have an i7 cpu you need sensors 3.1 ... the standard ubuntu package is 3.0.1 and is too old.
 ok, I am getting some good info, so what I am going to do, is re-install ubuntu, I will try to use the whole drive, THEN I can partition and format the desired portion in ubuntu to NTFS for my back=ups?
[01:50] <g33kergRL> rosco there's no option for that
[01:50] <rosco_y> and you can save a few different profiles (terminal preferences), but I suppose this would vary with the terminal your are using
[01:50] <pythags12> i got an ati card Cam
[01:50] <rosco_y> let me look--I know I've done it
[01:51] <g33kergRL> k
[01:51] <mickster04> darkzenlord: yes, remember windows will also see the ntfs partition
[01:51] <darkzenlord> I agree I did not need swap space, I have 6Gb of Ram
[01:51] <mickster04> darkzenlord: LOL edfinatly not
[01:51] <rosco_y> Try "Settings/Edit current profile"
[01:51] <trash80> it's a joke to a 64-bit cpu
[01:51] <cam_> pythags12: ahh so you want to control the graphics card fan?
[01:52] <pythags12> yes..
 it makes sense technically and thats all I need, thanks for the help mick
[01:52] <mickster04> darkzenlord: yeah google it an come back again:D
[01:52] <pythags12> cam ..i wrote the script..but i dont know how to make executable when i start ubuntu
[01:52] <miked595> mickster04: quicksynergy is an easy way to configure the server
[01:52] <rosco_y> but trash80, disk space is cheap too
[01:52] <mickster04> miked595: i will be using that in future
[01:52] <trash80> just much slower
[01:53] <rosco_y> y
[01:53] <rosco_y> and you're right, it never gets used
 I think I will google the whole raid and ubuntu thing, not many tutorials how to dual boot a raid 0 seperate HD rig
[01:53] <g33kergRL> rosco_y: where do you see this Settings option in terminal
[01:53] <trash80> you will need a bunch of ram for the ram disk
[01:53] <mickster04> darkzenlord: good luck
[01:53] <trash80> ram disk >>>>>> crappy ssd
[01:53] <rosco_y> g33kergRL: it's probably terminal specific, there are a number of terminal programs
[01:54] <cam_> pythags12: righto ... call it from /etc/rc.local after you do a "chmod o+x" on it
[01:54] <rosco_y> my "Settings" option is on the top-line menu, right next to "Help"
[01:54] <hardarrad> Hello. Any reason why I can't use LVM as a RAID replacement?
[01:54] <g33kergRL> rosco_y:  okay i don't see that one
[01:54] <pythags12> so when i start the computer it should come on automatically
[01:54] <rosco_y> g33kergRL: I'm using "Konsole"
[01:54] <andrew__> Ooookkkkk... Upgrading to 10.4 seems to have hung
[01:54] <g33kergRL> aha
[01:55] <andrew__> It's stuck on "Setting new software channels )Calculating the changes)"
[01:55] <g33kergRL> rosco_y:  aha, so we're talking diff
[01:55] <Odd-rationale> andrew__: lucid support in #ubuntu+1
[01:55] <rosco_y> g33kergRL: y, apples and oranges and all of that
[01:55] <cam_> pythags12: yes rc.local is run after all the init stuff so yes. (As long as your script has the execute bit set)
[01:55] <rosco_y> andrew__: which beta are you installing?
[01:56] <underdev> hi, i am trying to configure grub2 to load another linux distro.  I edit the files in /etc/grub.d/ then 'update-grub'.  I see my additions in 'grub.cfg', but when i reboot the menuentries are not there?  Is there a step after 'update-grub' to put the file into the mbr or whatever?
[01:56] <pythags12> cam_, thk l'll try that..
[01:56] <limpc> hi
[01:56] <limpc> i finally got my raid set up correctly, and ubuntu installed.
[01:56] <limpc> http://www.howtoforge.com/install-ubuntu-with-software-raid-10 is the site i used to get it working, in case anyone else needs the info
[01:56] <no1peanut> anoying .. I cant find any way to get the access rights from one file to another in any easy way
[01:56] <rosco_y> underdev: as far as I know, you just edit the menu.lst file
[01:57] <underdev> rosco_y: not for the newer versions of ubuntu, unfortunately :)
[01:57] <koshari> underdev with grub2 you should use the startup managet , they are not static files like they were in grub1
[01:57] <underdev> it uses grub2
[01:57] <rosco_y> underdev: oops, excuse me.  I'm not going to miss the xorg.conf file either :)
[01:58] <koshari> rosco_y until you need to set up a screen which reqired a custom modeline that is
[01:58] <no1peanut> ahh ... rtfm .. should have known
[01:58] <rosco_y> koshari: are you talking about xorg.conf?
[01:59] <koshari> rosco_y tick
[01:59] <jrib> no1peanut: why do you want to do that?
[01:59] <underdev> anyone know what should be done after 'sudo update-grub'?
[02:00] <rosco_y> koshari: what is "tick"?
[02:00] <koshari>  rosco_y: tick-yes
[02:00] <tatsel> tik-tok
[02:00] <limpc> its a little brown bug that latches on your skin and sucks blood
[02:00]  * tatsel runs away
[02:00] <Scunizi> I have a shared folder on a secondary drive that allows read/write access from the windows machines on the LAN.. however when I create a directory on that drive using Ubuntu the write privileges are not present. SMB config shows writeable=yes browseable=yes & guest ok=yes .. what do I need to do to keep my account from changing the global permissions?
[02:01] <rosco_y> Scunizi: I just saw an article that might be helful, brb
[02:01] <limpc> you need to tell samba what user to create the folders as
[02:02] <limpc> it should have a user= and group= entry in smb.conf i  dont recall
[02:02] <Scunizi> k.. brb
[02:02] <limpc> it might be uid=/gid=
[02:02] <limpc> im so happy with my raid array lol
[02:02] <limpc> 4 TB RAID 10.  4x2Tb drives
[02:03] <limpc> 7200 RPM SATA
[02:03] <Misantropo> i have a private apt-mirror server and one of my PC's is getting "W: Failed to fetch http://192.x.x.x/ubuntu/dists/lucid/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch" every once in a while.
[02:04] <rosco_y> Scunizi: not sure, but this may be helpful:  http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7741/1.html
[02:04] <limpc> Misantropo: i havent done anything like that but id assume its something failed to write the last bytes on the files you put on there
[02:05] <Misantropo> limpc, thanks
[02:07] <no1peanut> jrib: I wanted to add some text to the top of a file from the command line and ended up using a tmp file and when I restored that file I wanted it to  have the same permissions as the original
[02:07] <jrib> no1peanut: I don't understand the use case
[02:07] <Misantropo> limpc, solved! the problem was i am also behind a proxy and had the proxy configured for apt. It wasn't needed. Thanks anyway.
[02:08] <bsmith093> should i sign my public key before i publish it to the keyserveer
[02:08] <Misantropo> limpc, this page helped: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1194800
[02:08] <no1peanut> jrib: dig somehost.com | grep -m1 ^some | tr -t [:space:] '\ ' | cut -f1,6 -d' ' | awk '{print $2, $1}' | tr '\ ' '\t' | sed s/.$// > hosts.txt && cat /etc/hosts >> ./hosts.txt && chmod --reference=/etc/hosts ./hosts.txt && sudo chown --reference=/etc/hosts ./hosts.txt && sudo mv ./hosts.txt /etc/hosts
[02:10] <jrib> no1peanut: do you know what $() does?
[02:12] <wizzo50> How do you set firefox to automatically open a website in an email without it popping up a box asking you what to open it with?
[02:12] <Scunizi> rosco_y:  thanks for the link.. it's a good article but doesn't pertain to SAMBA configuration.. it's a little different there even though the basics are the same.. I can give everyone read/write/execute permissions on a directory but if I create a directory within that directory then nobody else can write to it.
[02:13] <wizzo50> How do you set firefox to automatically open a website in an email without it popping up a box asking you what to open it with in Ubuntu?
[02:13] <rosco_y> Scunizi: sure enough
[02:13] <tatsel> wizzo50: have you looked on the :about:config page ?
[02:14] <tatsel> "about:config"*
[02:14] <wizzo50> tatsel, In firefox?
[02:14] <ibkanat> >	how do I slow down my mouse in Lucid???
[02:14] <wizzo50> tatsel, no
[02:14] <ibkanat> the panel does do enough
[02:14] <ibkanat> not
[02:15] <greezmunkey> Scunizi: Wouldn't it be easier to use a group i.e.samba, and dole out the permissions using that?
[02:15] <wizzo50> tatsel, or in Ubuntu?
[02:15] <switch10_> !lucid
[02:15] <ibkanat> xset m 1/2 doesnt help either'
[02:15] <tatsel> wizzo50: type "about:config" in firefox's address bar
[02:15] <ibkanat> no answers there
[02:16] <Scunizi> greezmunkey: perhaps.. however I'm trying to give the other machines on the LAN universal rights to this folder without the need for a user name or password..
[02:16] <Scunizi> greezmunkey: the other users are windows machines.. :(
[02:16] <gerzel> Hey could someone direct me to the flash fix for ubuntu?
[02:16] <tatsel> Scunizi: highly unsecure, imho
[02:16] <gerzel> Reinstalled and forgot the fix
[02:16] <gerzel> Thanks
[02:17] <tatsel> gerzel: which flash fix?
[02:17] <Scunizi> tatsel: to 1 folder on a secondary drive? within a protected LAN
[02:17] <tatsel> Scunizi: oh
[02:17] <gerzel> latest one for 9.10
[02:17] <ahmed_ramdane> hello everyone
[02:17] <gerzel> the one where youtube controls don't work etc
[02:17]  * tatsel Said nothing
[02:18] <tatsel> gerzel: i don't know myself. Prehaps another user knows it
[02:18] <tehbaut> why is vnc so inherently slow?
[02:19] <ahmed_ramdane> please can anyone help me to change the brightness level of my laptop??
[02:19] <Tobarja> do you have to poke something to make ssh agent forwarding work on ubuntu
[02:20] <gerzel> Ah I think it is a problem with the 64 architexture
[02:20] <greezmunkey> Scunizi: look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/415262/ it's a snip from my smb.conf, you should be able to modify it and apply it to your needs.
[02:20] <wizzo50> tatsel, That don't help. Just a list of Preference Names
[02:20] <tatsel> ahmed_ramdane: there is a ... huh... an applet for the status bar that does that
[02:21] <tatsel> wizzo50: search for "mail"
[02:21] <roark_> hi
[02:21]  * dos123 peeks and pokes roark_
[02:21] <tatsel> hi
[02:21] <no1peanut> jrib: $()? .. sorry lost connection
[02:21] <gerzel> Also is there any way/guide to making a cleaner switch to using emerald/compiz manager instead of the simplified manager in Ubuntu?
[02:21] <ahmed_ramdane> i tried to change the system/preference/power management/ and i set the brightness
[02:22] <roark_> I have a 1 TB hard drive... i want to sync between my laptop and external hard drive....any suggestions on how to do that
[02:22] <soreau> gerzel: You could read the compiz wiki
[02:22] <suddenzero> Hello, I am new to Ubuntu and I am trying to install the Web Tools Platform for Eclipse using the Eclipse update feature but I get an error every time. Can someone please help me?
[02:22] <roark_> dos123: i was testing if U was allowed to post in this channel
[02:22] <tatsel> ahmed_ramdane: it didn't work?
[02:22] <Scunizi> greezmunkey: interesting.. I'll give it a shot. Thanks.. Samba is one thing I have dove into for years and now I find a need.. thus the need breeds questions, reading and knowledge... to later be shared with others.. man that sounds *way* to altruistic
[02:22] <wizzo50> tatsel, Then what?
[02:23] <greezmunkey> Scunizi: heh :)
[02:23] <xubunto1>  a litle help with keffeine...?
[02:23] <roark_> I have a 1 TB hard drive... i want to sync between my laptop and external hard drive....any suggestions on how to do that .... sry i forgot to mention that the sync should be automatic....
[02:23] <suddenzero> If anyone can help me I have an error log.
[02:23] <wizzo50> tatsel, I'm not a wiz at this
[02:23] <tatsel> wizzo50: looks if any configuration matches that behavior
[02:23] <greezmunkey> Scunizi: yeah, you may have to modify the permission values, to tailor that, but you can play with it at lease.
[02:23] <dos123> no rsync i think
[02:23] <greezmunkey> *least
[02:24] <roark_> dos123: were you replying to me?
[02:24] <tatsel> wizzo50: hum. Idk then. Sorry :S
[02:24] <Scunizi> greezmunkey: yea.. I figure 777 will work.. nothing important really going in the folder.
[02:24]  * tatsel does his best
[02:24] <greezmunkey> Scunizi: sure.
[02:24] <wizzo50> tatsel, You must be thinking of something different
[02:24] <Scunizi> greezmunkey: what's the "mask" feature..?  I don't really get that.
[02:24] <ahmed_ramdane> i even did go to cd /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/ DD02/brightness
[02:25] <tigrang> Ubuntu's gotten to 9.10 and the font rendering still -isn't quite so good- =/
[02:25] <Losha> roark_: so you're saying you want the external drive to mirror the laptop?
[02:25] <suddenzero> Is there anyone here who can help me with an error I am getting trying to install an eclipse plugin on Ubuntu 9.10 - the Karmic Koala?
[02:25] <roark_> Losha: yes
[02:25] <tatsel> wizzo50: then I didn't get what you meant
[02:25] <wizzo50> tatsel, It's when I click on something in a email to open it automatically without it asking what to open it with
[02:25] <ahmed_ramdane> the only command that worked is  xgamma -gamma XX
[02:25] <Scunizi> greezmunkey: sorry gotta run .. bbl
[02:26] <roark_> Losha: actually more than that when I delete somehting on my laptop it shouldn't be deleted on external HDD... since my laptop can store only 200GB but external hdd can store 1 TB....
[02:26] <greezmunkey> Scunizi: http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2003-March/063429.html
[02:26] <ahmed_ramdane> can anyone help me??? please
[02:26] <switch10_> roark_: rsync withouth the --delete option
[02:26] <dsnyders> Hi all!  When I try to mail something from the command prompt, I get "sendmail process failed with error code 75".  Am I missing a package or something?
[02:26] <tatsel> wizzo50: what, for example, a link?
[02:26] <wizzo50> tatsel, A box appears for me to pick a program to open the file, or picture or etc. with
[02:26] <tatsel> Oh
[02:27] <roark_> switch10_: will update work then... if i use rsync without --delete option
[02:27] <Losha> roark_: well rsync would be the first thing that comes to mind. But you should consider doing 'proper' backups to the hard drive instead of just accumulating stuff there with rsync...
[02:27] <tatsel> wizzo50: this is about the default mimetype association
[02:27] <wizzo50> tatsel, and Idon't know what to or where to find it on my drive
[02:27] <mickster04> how do i compile stuff in ubuntu? i get no targets specified and no make filefound. stop. on usinghte make command
[02:27] <ahmed_ramdane> my eyes are killing me and i need to change the brightness soon
[02:27] <dos123> no the cloud i think
[02:27] <tatsel> wizzo50: what are you trying to open?
[02:28] <wizzo50> tatsel, It use to not do it until I did an update with the manager and then started to do this
[02:28] <Losha> mickster04: is there a file named 'configure' there?
[02:28] <switch10_> roark_: how do you mean update?  the update option in rsync?
[02:28] <mickster04> Losha: i ran ./configure already seemed to ru fine
[02:28] <roark_> switch10_: updating a text file.... deleting a line and adding a line
[02:28] <mickster04> Losha: oh wait...
[02:29] <Losha> mickster04: apparently there's no Makefile. If that's the case, your configure failed...
[02:29] <roark_> switch10_: since we are using without --delete option will the above scenario work (updating a text file.... deleting a line and adding a line)
[02:29] <greezmunkey> dsnyders: does any mail from command line work?
[02:29] <wizzo50> tatsel, anything, when ever I see something I want to open. I guess it isn't just on emal but also from web pages too
[02:29] <tatsel> wizzo50: hum. It's quite floggy to me, I haven't layed hands on an ubuntu OS since months. I know what to do, but I don't remind how
[02:29] <mickster04> Losha: how to instlal glib?
[02:29] <Jordan_U> underdev: Can you pastebin your grub.cfg?
[02:29] <tatsel> Foggy*
[02:29] <dsnyders> greezmunkey, I've only tried mail -s test<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:29] <roark_> Losha: could you tell me what you meant by 'proper backups' ... i was thinking of rsyncing my home folder of my laptop to external hdd
[02:30] <switch10_> roark_: with the -u option, it should keep the lines you would have deleted on the source, and update the new lines as well..
[02:30] <dos123> i am sick of the virtual storage
[02:30] <suddenzero> @ dsnyders Here is a link to a similar question in the ubuntu forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=550287&page=8
[02:30] <suddenzero> That should help
[02:30] <wizzo50> tatsel, so you know what I am talking about now?
[02:30] <tatsel> wizzo50: you have to select the default application
[02:30] <roark_> switch10_ : but I want content inside text files to be deleted
[02:31] <switch10_> roark_: so add the --delete option..
[02:31] <tatsel> wizzo50: yep, but i dont fully remind how
[02:31] <greezmunkey> dsnyders: issue the same command, but add -v, that should give you more details.
[02:31] <roark_> switch10_ : i think i was not clear , at  all, then files get deleted too?
[02:31]  * tatsel wants his pc...
[02:31] <wizzo50> tatsel, Why do I have too? Doesn't the computer do it itself
[02:31] <switch10_> roark_: yes.
[02:31] <wizzo50> tatsel, It use to
[02:31] <tatsel> wizzo50: usually, it does
[02:32] <suddenzero> Hi everyone I am having trouble installing the web tools plugin for eclipse on Ubuntu 9.10. I have an error log. Can anyone help me please?
[02:32] <iAmerikan> I'm on the beta, and I just started loosing all my priv's for everything including gnome and nautilus, I can only do things as root in xterm or a tty*.. Any ideas?
[02:32] <thebruce> can someone help me change where the terminal's default path is?
[02:32] <roark_> switch10_ : if i delete a movie in my laptop that s because i dont have enough space in my laptop but i dont want that movie to be deleted in my external hdd... however if i am changing lines of code i am pretty sure I want them to be deleted in my external hdd too.....any way to achieve this using rsync...or any syncing mechanism
[02:32] <switch10_> roark_: I have not needed to do that, I'm sure it's possible using wildcards for text files only.  have a read in man rsync
[02:32] <dsnyders> greezmunkey,  I get no further details than: Can't send mail: sendmail process failed
[02:33] <Losha> roark_: a proper backup means you can restore the state of the laptop *exactly* to how it was at a previous time. With your rsync scheme, you get a muddle of current and deleted files: it's ok for those 'whoops, I didn't mean to delete that file' moments, but it's doesn't support restoring full state...
[02:33] <wizzo50> tatsel, Like if you put an website address on here for me to go to, and I click on it, the box pops up asking me to select what to open it with
[02:33] <tatsel> wizzo50: right click on a file that asks you that, and select properties. Then look in one of the tabs in the dialogg, you should see something like "association"
[02:33] <roark_> Losha: cool got it
[02:33] <tatsel> wizzo50: oh, an URL?
[02:34] <tatsel> wizzo50: select firefox as default
[02:34] <wizzo50> tatsel, Yea or anything.
[02:34] <Losha> mickster04: apt-cache search glib | egrep -i dev     ...Then you have to install the right package...
[02:34] <switch10_> roark_: or run a seperate rsync for different dirs.  I have cron jobs running rsync that have many different options, for different dirs.
[02:34] <mickster04> Losha: now i need to find an install ncurses!
[02:34] <tatsel> wizzo50: looks like you have to do the association again.
[02:34] <suddenzero> @dsnyders seriously you should check the forums. Follow this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=550287&page=8
[02:35] <wizzo50> tatsel, then I have to find it in the program manager and don't know where the main file is to open whatever it is
[02:35] <roark_> switch10_ : exactly what i had in mind... but it seemed slightly crude
[02:35] <Losha> mickster04: this is why most people avoid installing from source. It can take ages to get all the dependencies. What are you trying to build...
[02:35] <roark_> switch10_ : i mean not easy to maintain
[02:35] <roark_> switch10_ : but since it is my personal laptop this should be fine...
[02:35] <wizzo50> tatsel, How ypu do that?
[02:35] <mickster04> Losha: irssi, want .15 rather than .14 just because :/ think ill have to give up;/
[02:35] <tatsel> wizzo50: applications are un /usr/bin
[02:36] <roark_> switch10_ : do you use rsync for simiar purposes...
[02:36] <tatsel> wizzo50: huh. too far away for me ..
[02:36] <switch10_> roark_: with a cron job its perfect.  but like i said, have a look in the man pages im sure there is a way to do what you want.  using --exclude and wildcards too
[02:36] <roark_> switch10_: it would be great if you could send me your scripts(if possible)
[02:36] <tatsel> wizzo50: if you have to browse for the application, it's in /usr/bin
[02:36] <switch10_> roark_: I use rsync everyday, on almost all of my machines.
[02:37] <switch10_> roark_: ill pastebin you a few..
[02:37] <roark_> switch10_ : awesome i dont have working knowledge of it.... i only read about it few days back
[02:37] <dos123> can somebody rsync your hdd over the internet?
[02:37] <Losha> mickster04: apt-cache depends <package_name> should list the dependencies, so you can estimate how much installing you'll have to do...
[02:37] <roark_> dos123: i dont think so
[02:37] <dsnyders> suddenzero, google didn't find the forum, so neither did I.
[02:37] <dos123> lol
[02:37] <Losha> !who | dos123
[02:37] <roark_> dos123: you should use nas if you want to connect to it from internet
[02:37] <mickster04> Losha: cheers
[02:38] <wizzo50> tatsel, I want to get it back to like it did, automatically. Should I reinstall Ubuntu?
[02:38] <tatsel> wizzo50: no.
[02:38] <greezmunkey> dsnyders: Are you running sendmail, or sendemail?
[02:38] <roark_> Losha: i always wanted to ask ... is !who case insensitive.. and can tab be any punctuation mark like . , : ;
[02:38] <voss749> That Ubottu...what an annoying know-it-all ;-)
[02:38] <dsnyders> greezmunkey, I have no idea.
[02:39] <roark_> cant realy try bcos i dont know what happes on your end
[02:39] <tatsel> wizzo50: I don't know, but reinstalling is not the thing to do.
[02:39] <roark_> Losha: cant realy try bcos i dont know what happes on your end
[02:39] <wizzo50> tatsel, Where is sebsebseb?
[02:39] <dsnyders> greezmunkey, How do I find out?
[02:39] <tatsel> wizzo50: huh?
[02:39] <Losha> wizzo50: I've not seen sebsebseb for weeks...
[02:39] <wizzo50> tatsel, You know him on here?
[02:39] <tatsel> no i dont
[02:39] <suddenzero> @ dsnyders hmm, that is strange because I am looking right at the page I posted the link to. sorry
[02:40] <wizzo50> tatsel, I haven't been on here for quite awhile myself
[02:40] <Kirsten> hey guys, beginner ubuntu user here, suffering the infamous(?) updated and "gave up waiting for root device" problem, anyone know of a definitive, hand-holding workaround documentation for fixing this through busybox?
[02:40] <voss749> Maybe he ran out of seb?
[02:40] <wizzo50> voss749, LOL
[02:40] <switch10_> roark_: here is my /home backup http://paste.ubuntu.com/415268/.  notice I exclude Music and Videos, becasue I have rsync backing them up in a different cronjob with different options.
[02:40] <voss749> wizzo, sort of like ED ;-)
[02:41] <Vantrax> Kirsten you might want to try #ubuntu-beginners
[02:41] <dsnyders> suddenzero, I am looking at the page you linked to as well.  However, when I tried to google for the error message, I didn't get that page.
[02:41] <Kirsten> thank-you
[02:41] <roark_> switch10_ : cool can you post cron job which is syncing music and videos
[02:41] <Losha> roark_: not sure what you're asking. tab is the tab key. It autocompletes names in most clients, in a client-specific way...
[02:41] <Uboss> hello
[02:41] <roark_> Losha: oops dint know that
[02:41] <wizzo50> voss749, who is ED?
[02:42] <roark_> Losha: awesome more productive
[02:42] <Jordan_U> Information about compiling a custom kernel on Ubuntu can be found here: [KernelCustomBuild]
[02:42] <Losha> roark_: saves a buttload of typing...
[02:42] <roark_> Losha: yes :)
[02:42] <nastjuid> Greets!
[02:42] <anom01y> what is the coolest program for Linux ?
[02:42] <Uboss> My Ubuntu 9.10 have some problems which happens once in 2-3 days. There is anyway to fix errors or lost packages on Ubuntu ?
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> anom01y:  'ssh'  :)
[02:43] <dsnyders> anom01y, /bin/freeze :-)
[02:43] <roark_> switch10_: the command u pasted.. will it run as a cron job
[02:43] <switch10_> roark_: make sure if you add in the the -v --progress or --stats options, you are not running it as a cron job becasue it will fail without somewhere to output...
[02:43] <nastjuid> anyone know what the route flag 'e' is? I've got a route with Ue under flags, and I can't get any traffic through that interface. Checked man pages and google, no luck :(
[02:43] <roark_> switch10_: sure
[02:43] <switch10_> roark_: that exact one does yes.
[02:43] <roark_> switch10_: how often do you run the cron job
[02:43] <Losha> Uboss: Your statement sounds very strange: normally running systems don't 'lose' packages.
[02:43] <roark_> switch10_: once every minute
[02:43] <The_Explorer> Help me: I cant get my line input to unmute with this... pulse... mixer crap
[02:43] <roark_> switch10_: ?
[02:44] <switch10_> roark_: once a day for some, once every few days for others..
[02:44] <Uboss> Losha, I did a restart and I was looking only thumb and no cursor or start menu.
[02:44] <roark_> switch10_: awesome.. thanks
[02:45] <dozler> hello?
[02:45] <switch10_> roark_: make sure you chmod u+x the_file tho :)
[02:45] <thebruce> i downloaded the latest mozilla and it's a .tar.bz2 how do i replace my exisiting version with the latest?
[02:45] <Losha> !hi | dozler
[02:45] <dozler> does anyone run cairo-dock w/ open gl? i have the black box and i have tried over and over to remove it..
[02:45] <thebruce> mozilla firefox that is
[02:45] <roark_> switch10_: which one destination or source... i am assuming destination which will be my external hdd
[02:46] <thebruce> i run cairo-dock without open gl
[02:46] <switch10_> roark_: my Music and vid backup look just like the other backup without the exclude options, and --delete
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> thebruce:  Theres repositories that have teh latest - you should be using those. not the tar.bz2 one you got from the firefox web sitre
[02:46] <sunshinepants> no open gl :o
[02:46] <dozler> yeah i run it w/o the open gl but it looks way sweeter with open gl
[02:46] <switch10_> roark_: yes your dest would be your usb hdd
[02:46] <thebruce> Dr_Willis, should i look in the Ubuntu Software centeR?
[02:46] <dozler> besides the black box
[02:46] <sunshinepants> sacrilege
[02:46] <thebruce> or the synaptic package manager
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> thebruce:  its in UNOFFICIAL ubuntu repositories, various PPA repos
[02:46] <roark_> switch10_: no i meant on which file should i change access permissions
[02:46] <roark_> switch10_: chmod u+x
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> thebruce:  so its not going to be in there by default
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> !firefox
[02:47] <harleypig> -!- BANG! Dr_Willis emerges fom the smoke!
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> harleypig:  and about to head out to work as well.
[02:47] <switch10_> roark_: yeah make it executable
[02:48] <roark_> switch10_: cool
[02:48] <switch10_> roark_: if you are running it as a cron job that is.
[02:48] <g33kergRL> yah! i blocked all youtube ads!!!
[02:48] <roark_> switch10_: sure thats the only reasonable way i guess... running it as a cron job
[02:48] <g33kergRL> ##winehq
[02:48] <switch10_> roark_: it beats running it manually for sure.
[02:49] <roark_> switch10_: ya
[02:49] <dozler> any cairo-dock open gl users in here? or is there a better dock that i am not aware of that uses 3d animations?
[02:49] <thebruce> thanks Dr_Willis just added ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable to my sources
[02:49] <phoebus> Does ubuntu support this hardware? http://www.marok.org/Arte/Mix/fufme.png
[02:50] <casemods> how do i install a printer with ubuntu??
[02:50] <Losha> phoebus: do that again and I will request that you be banned...
[02:51] <phoebus> Losha, loosen up, it's a joke :P
[02:51] <Losha> phoebus: jokes go on #ubuntu-offtopic....
[02:51] <casemods> phoebus: internet is serious business
[02:51] <phoebus> lol
[02:51] <phoebus> Losha, it was very quiet :P
[02:52] <g33kergRL> casemods: Losha come on, relax
[02:52] <phoebus> Don't worry no bandwidth catastrophically lost.
[02:52] <thebruce> Losha, is just trying to keep everything on topic
[02:52] <g33kergRL> phoebus: if only you had a way of measuring traffic to that pic in realtime
[02:52] <roark_> switch10_: is there any way to backup names of packages installed ... after a clean install of ubuntu.... ( i mean saving all sudo apt-get install * ) on external hard drive... so that if my laptop crashes i just have to run the script which stored all sudo apt-get install commands and I will back to where I was.............
[02:52] <phoebus> g33kergRL, indeed :P
[02:52] <casemods> what picture?
[02:52] <g33kergRL> fufme pic
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> !clone | roark_
[02:52] <casemods> ?
[02:53] <phoebus> casemods, I'll pm you sec
[02:53] <switch10_> roark_: sudo dpkg --get-selections > /home/dave/upgrade/installed_packages
[02:53] <switch10_> sudo rsync -a /etc/apt/sources.list /home/dave/upgrade/
[02:53] <thebruce> any reason why my spell check in mozilla is british?
[02:53] <Losha> phoebus: it's not the joke (though it *is* tasteless), it's the fact that it doesn't scale. If only 10% of users start posting one-liner jokes, the channel would be completely unusable...
[02:53] <switch10_> roark_: I run that as a cron job as well..
[02:53] <g33kergRL> thebruce:  it's sad to see ppl lose their memory at this young age
[02:54] <thebruce> g33kergRL, what?
[02:54] <g33kergRL> Losha: there's a fine line between responsible modding and Irc nazism
[02:54] <phoebus> Tasteless? It's hilarious that this was once an actual product -- in circulation :P
[02:54] <roark_> switch10_: ok dpkg --get-selections i hope it gives only those which I installed AFTER installing ubuntu and doesnt include packages that were already there with ubuntu distro
[02:54] <dozler> anybody help me figure out my graphics driver problem?
[02:54] <phoebus> But shouldn't this discussion be in offtopic now? >.> *runs off*
[02:55] <switch10_> roark_:  it works great.  and you can take the list that i am calling installed_packages, and have dpkg automatically install them on your new install.  pretty slick.
[02:55] <casemods> how do i install a printer with ubuntu??
[02:55] <Losha> g33kergRL: true, and I don't always agree with the ops either, but it was both off-topic *and* blue...
[02:55] <g33kergRL> phoebus he's blue
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> casemods:  theres a menu item in the  admin menu.. You have actually tried to install/configure it?
[02:56] <casemods> Dr_Willis: not at all, i don't nkow how
[02:56] <switch10_> roark_: it includes all installed packages.  including those that are included with ubuntu, unless you remove them.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> casemods:  time to put forth a little effort and  explore  Your menus then and look for the printer tool/icons.
[02:56] <Losha> g33kergRL: he's a smurf. And he's successfully trolled us....
[02:56] <roark_> switch10_: so i hope installing them again shoudlnt cause any problem
[02:56] <g33kergRL> phoebus: Losha: the absolute power of an irc mod is corrupting many
[02:57] <switch10_> roark_: na.  it will tell you that it is already installed.
[02:57] <roark_> switch10_: cool
[02:57] <casemods> my dad needs the printer to work or i have to re-install XP
[02:57] <switch10_> roark_: no problems
[02:57] <g33kergRL> Losha: ah, actually, i was saying TO phoebus "he's blue" about YOU ....
[02:57] <Losha> g33kergRL: power corrupts, but intermittent power corrupts absolutely....
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> casemods:  time to look in the  Administrator menu. and actally run the printer config tool... then come back if you cant get it working
[02:57] <g33kergRL> Losha: jokes about THAT i don't find funny at all
[02:57] <dozler> ubuntu software sources has plenty of printer apps there for ya
[02:58] <casemods> Dr_Willis: what is the exact name? and where do I find it?
[02:58] <Losha> g33kergRL: enough. Take it offtopic if you want to continue, ok?
[02:58] <dozler> also try simply using a usb cord from your printer to your computer.. it will detect it
[02:58] <g33kergRL> channel dictators is not a laughing matter
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> casemods:  no idea.. Im not on gnome.. im not going to hold your hand when you cant even seem to look in one menu. its the 3rd from the left..
[02:58] <nastjuid> System -> administration -> printing
[02:59] <roark_> ubottu: thanks... i only want to store the package names instead of installing them on other machine
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> nastjuid:  thanks. :) seems rather logical  eh.
[02:59] <nastjuid> actually
[02:59] <g33kergRL> roark_: bots .... ;)
[02:59] <roark_> ubottu: i have a external hdd whre i want to sync all the package names i installed so that if my laptop crashes i can get back to previous state easily
[02:59] <nastjuid> ah, yeah, that's it. attach a printer and click new
[02:59] <nastjuid> If that doesn't work, I can't help you. I don't use paper.
[03:00] <roark_> g33kergRL: how did it answer my question :)
[03:00] <roark_> g33kergRL: very intelligent bot
[03:00] <roark_> g33kergRL: :P
[03:00] <g33kergRL> roark_: no clue, im not as intelli as she is
[03:00] <roark_> g33kergRL: she?
[03:00] <thebruce> should i be using cairo with open gl?
[03:01]  * g33kergRL explains to roark_ that all intelligent bots are female, stupid bots are male ...
[03:01] <jimi_> Anyone know the gui app name to launch shrew?
[03:01] <roark_> g33kergRL: got it madam
[03:01] <g33kergRL> jimi_: tamed shrew?
[03:01] <roark_> switch10_: can you think of any other folders outside home that i should sync...
[03:01] <casemods> nastjuid thanks that worked
[03:01] <jimi_> g33kergRL,  shrew vpn client
[03:02] <thebruce> anyway to get an icon to launch gparted instead of sudo gparted
[03:02] <g33kergRL> vpn ...? is that even kosher?
[03:02] <switch10_> roark_: no.  I sync a few random other things that I have made changes to like /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/fstab
[03:03] <roark_> switch10_: ya etc/apt/sources.list is important i think
[03:03] <roark_> switch10_: i dont usually make changes to fstab..
[03:03] <davebs> Hey, I've got a weird problem... 2 computers connected by ethernet to same router, both on dhcp, can communicate with eachother...but only one can access internet... any ideas?
[03:03] <roark_> switch10_: cool anyways
[03:03] <aleite> Hello guys... I compiled KDE on ubuntu, I changed KDE language to portuguese.. made the same with gnome (using gnome-language selector), but any gtk program is still in english, any clue?
[03:04] <switch10_> roark_: ya just stuff you have made changes to.  unless you feel like re doing it.
[03:04] <exorzizt> has anyone tried to sync iphone/ipod with libimobiledevice and can help me ??
[03:04]  * nastjuid facepalms
[03:04] <snypzz> tcpip
[03:04] <roark_> switch10_: any other sync mechanism other than rsync...i heard rsync is more useful on non reliable and slow networls... since i will be connecting my hdd using usb i think my network is pretty reliable :)
[03:04] <nastjuid> forgot to start radvd after rebooting the router
[03:04] <Losha> roark_: I keep half a dozen files from /etc. I can recover almost all config from those few files. Parts of /home I can't live without get backed up when I remember...
[03:04] <snypzz> are both computers tcpip...?
[03:05] <roark_> switch10_: any sync mechanism which makes an assumption that network is reliable which is a decent assumption in my case i think
[03:05] <switch10_> roark_: I havent needed to use anything but rsync.  I use it over my network.
[03:05] <christopher> Quelqu'un parle français dans la salle ? :-x
[03:05] <nastjuid> davebs: make/model of router?
[03:06] <DaZ> !fr | christopher
[03:06] <Losha> roark_: the reason people use rsync is because it can be configured to avoid copying files which haven't changed....
[03:06] <roark_> switch10_: is your network lan or anything bigger and slower than that... like do you sycn your office and home comps
[03:06] <christopher> Thanks !! :-)
[03:06] <switch10_> roark_: no, just over my LAN
[03:06] <DaZ> <3
[03:06] <roark_> Losha: cool then it makes lot of sense to stick with rsync...
[03:06] <davebs> nastjuid: 2x wrt54g with ddwrt in a wireless bridge
[03:06] <roark_> Losha: since changes in files are smaller than actual files themselves... i thought you meant the same thing
[03:07] <davebs> nastjuid: both computers connected by wire to bridge which then connects wirelessly to the one in the other room which is connected to cable modem
[03:07] <Losha> roark_: the only thing better than rsync would be a proper full/incremental backup program...
[03:07] <switch10_> Losha: roark_ that is truly the greatest feature in rsync, it just syncs the changes.  it saves so much time/bandwidth
[03:07] <ninjai_> does anyone know how or if its possible to install lvm encryption on an already installed Ubuntu OS?
[03:08] <darthpenguin> hey. does anyone here know anything about setting up RAID?
[03:08] <greezmunkey> Losha: bacula - if you want to commit the resources to it!
[03:08] <MTecknology> gp5st: http://dpaste.com/184389/
[03:08] <nastjuid> davebs: are both machines getting an address and gateway? can both hit the router with icmp?
[03:08] <Sk_Lg> hi!  when I start gparted to make space for a partition for ubuntu (after installing through the 64-bit windows option), the option to move/resize the partition is grey'ed on the menu. How do I change this to eliminate the windows?
[03:09] <Losha> roark_: I can't remember if rsync will only transmit the changed blocks in a file, but it definitely knows to skip over files which have no changes...
[03:09] <switch10_> Sk_Lg: unmount the disk...
[03:09] <ninjai_> Sk_Lg: the reason is because you are using that partition (root partition is mounted).  Boot off an ubuntu live CD and you should be able to
[03:09] <davebs> nastjuid: both getting address, both getting gateway, how do i check if they hit w/ icmp?
[03:09] <Losha> greezmunkey: I prefer dump/restore myself, but each to their own...
[03:10] <MTecknology> gp5st: I installed this system from the cli only version on the alternate cd
[03:10] <nastjuid> davebs: just ping
[03:10] <davebs> nastjuid: actually, that's interesting, one can pull up router while the other (the broken one) can't
[03:10] <greezmunkey> Losha: yeah, I looked into bacula...I don't run a data center here, so rsync'n it!
[03:10] <nastjuid> which OS is the one that can't?
[03:10] <davebs> nastjuid: Yeah, I get destination host unreachable trying to ping router
[03:10] <goodfella121> Stopped on by to see if I can get some help with my video capture problem.
[03:11] <greezmunkey> gotta go...bye
[03:11] <Losha> roark_: ah, here it is, from the man page: "...The rsync remote-update protocol allows rsync to transfer just the differences between two sets of files across the network connection, using an efficient checksum-search algorithm.."
 the "device is busy", how can I boot off a virtual disk? (since a burner is not readily available)
[03:11] <MTecknology> gp5st: any ideas?
[03:11] <nastjuid> davebs: which OS is the one that can't?
[03:12] <davebs> nastjuid: ubuntu 9.10 32bit, everything fairly standard i think
[03:12] <nastjuid> anything in iptables -L ?
[03:12] <goodfella121> It appears the Dazzle Fusion video capture device is not working with Ubuntu 10.04
[03:12] <gp5st> MTecknology: hmm, i didn't expect it to find the partitions on the drive w/o mounting it
[03:12] <goodfella121> I heard there's a workaround. Anyone have any ideas?
[03:12] <goodfella121> lspci is reading it. But I can't use it! lol
[03:12] <gp5st> MTecknology: maybe get gparted and see what format that partition is in?
[03:12] <davebs> nastjuid: and fwiw it's been working and i haven't made any changes to anything I can think of, other than adding a raid array purely for storage
[03:13] <Losha> goodfella121: 10.04 problems on #ubuntu+1 please...
[03:13] <switch10_> Sk_Lg: you cant boot your machine from an iso image if thats what you mean.  unless you are on a virtual machine
[03:13] <exorzizt> got it
[03:13] <nastjuid> davebs: anything in iptables -L ?
[03:13] <goodfella121> Losha: this was a problem with 9.04 and 9.10
[03:13] <MTecknology> gp5st: sdb1 = vfat
[03:14] <MTecknology> gp5st: I use fdisk -l
[03:14] <Losha> goodfella121: oh, in that case it's ok, pardon me...
[03:14] <switch10_> Sk_Lg: if you dont have a cd burner use unetbootin to but the cd image on a flash disk
[03:14] <davebs> nastjuid: first, told me "can't initialize iptables table 'filter': permission denied" then w/ sudo gives nothing
[03:14] <MTecknology> gp5st: I've been mounting things myself but I'd like them to auto mount
[03:14] <switch10_> put*
[03:14] <goodfella121> Losha: lol no, it's fine. So I've tested this on all version and I was wondering, if the command lspci is reading the make and model in terminal, what is preventing me from using the device?
[03:14] <gp5st> MTecknology: i think you can write udev rules for it
[03:14] <gp5st> since it's finding it ok and everything
[03:15] <MTecknology> gp5st: Are you sure it's udev?
[03:15] <gp5st> MTecknology: yeah
[03:15] <Sk_Lg> switch10_: ok, put the cd image on a flash disk then boot from that?
[03:15] <gp5st> unless it's changed recently
[03:15] <nastjuid> davebs: it sounds like the machine attached to the modem is bridging or doing passthrough, and the first machine on the other end that requests an address gets it. The address of the one that works is a private IP?
[03:16] <Losha> goodfella121: reading make & model just means the device responds to basic probes by returning some text. It's promising, but no guarantee of full functionality. What does google say about that model?
[03:17] <goodfella121> Losha: unfortunately, Google has returned much. I've used the key words "dazzle fusion ubuntu video capture" and nothing. I've tried Kdenlive and Kino... but no luck. lol
[03:17] <Losha> Sk_Lg: or try: http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[03:17] <osmosis> how do I do audio calls with empathy to google talk users?
[03:17] <davebs> nastjuid: Sorry, I don't understand, private ip?  It's kinda setup like: (Tower) (Server) >>>ethernet>>>wrt54g1))))wireless)))))wrt54g2>>>cable modem, if that makes sense?
[03:18] <nastjuid> davebs: yeah, i got that. What's the IP of the machine that works?
[03:18] <ChogyDan> osmosis: I think it is xmpp or somethin
[03:18] <davebs> Tower = <IP_ADDRESS>, Server=<IP_ADDRESS>, wrt54g1=<IP_ADDRESS>, wrt54g2=<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:18] <suddenzero> join ubuntu-beginners
[03:18] <davebs> nastjuid: <IP_ADDRESS> works
[03:18] <hell0> identd is working how do i stop it
[03:18] <Losha> goodfella121: try one of the mythtv forums? Those guys know tons about tv capture...
[03:18] <switch10_> Sk_Lg: yeah, you cant simply copy the iso onto the flash disk.  you have to system>admin>startup disk creater or unetbootin
[03:19] <IdleOne> suddenzero: /join #ubuntu-beginners
[03:19] <casemods> can anyone tell me how to re-enable the OS menu at boot?
[03:19] <MTecknology> gp5st: I'm going to switch kernels - brb
[03:19] <goodfella121> Losha: absolutely. so i don't have to look, can you give me the channel name? It'd be appreciated
[03:19] <thebruce> any way to zip a file w/o compression in ubuntu?
[03:20] <hell0> minident fakeidentd
[03:20] <nastjuid> thebruce: mkisofs ?
[03:20] <thebruce> zip a folder without compression rather
[03:20] <Losha> goodfella121: *I* had to look it up: #mythtv-users
[03:20] <goodfella121> Losha: sorry broheim lol
[03:21] <MTecknology> gp5st: so - having udev running doesn't change anything
[03:21] <SvenG> thebruce: "gzip -1" ;)
[03:21] <gp5st> udev is always running
[03:21] <Losha> goodfella121: also check out http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/
[03:21] <goodfella121> Losha: thanks!
[03:21] <SvenG> thebruce: how about "mv file file.zip"? :)
[03:21] <Sk_Lg> switch10_: so I have the .iso going to a 2gb disk, but it gives me 2 options for the one device
[03:22] <thebruce> hmm SvenG that's interesting
[03:22] <Sk_Lg> switch10_: should I just click on the one with free space?
[03:22] <MTecknology> gp5st: .... you missed what I said about how I built this system..
[03:22] <thebruce> but when i rename a file it doesnt make it an archive
[03:22] <casemods> how can I choose what operating system on startup?
[03:22] <SvenG> thebruce: true.  was just an idea. ;)
[03:22] <davebs> nastjuid: It's got me scratching my head too... kinda a screwy setup but everything should work.  And what's really weird is I use synergy to use one keyboard and one mouse to control the two computers and I can control the one that can't get on the internet fine (and that's the one that doesn't have a keyboard connected)
[03:22] <hell0> how do i find out which application is opening a port
[03:22] <SvenG> thebruce: why do you want that, by the way?
[03:23] <nastjuid> davebs: what's the netmask on the one that's not working?
[03:23] <gp5st> MTecknology: the cli installer should have done udev iirc
[03:23] <SvenG> hell0: watch it very very closely ;)
[03:23] <thebruce> SvenG, i am repackaging an apk for android
[03:23] <casemods> how can I choose what operating system on startup?
[03:23] <thebruce> and im new to the linux scene
[03:23] <thebruce> i use 7zip in windows
[03:23] <davebs> nastjuid: <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:23] <hell0> SvenG, ?
[03:23] <SvenG> thebruce: so it has to be a zip file... fine.  but why "no compression"?
[03:23] <MTecknology> gp5st: I'm trying out dpkg-reconfigure udev
[03:23] <SvenG> hell0: ";-)"
[03:23] <nyhcjedi> is there any way i can create a virtual network to test my networking skills with ubuntu?
[03:24] <thebruce> well it has to be an apk
[03:24] <Losha> thebruce: in the man page for zip, it talks about -n to disable compression for certain files...
[03:24] <nastjuid> davebs: earlier when you said 'pull up' did you mean access the management page? So the one that can't work also can't access the management page?
[03:24] <kulahitatriboo_1> nyhcjedi try virtualbox
[03:24] <thebruce> but if you create a zip archive and rename to .apk that works
[03:24] <SvenG> thebruce: well.. problem solved?!
[03:24] <hell0> SvenG, if u dont wanna help .. ;)
[03:24] <thebruce> problem solved? no
[03:24] <davebs> nastjuid: yes
[03:24] <SvenG> hell0: use tcpdump
[03:24] <nastjuid> crazy
[03:24] <gp5st> MTecknology: i think udev is running, since it creaded /dev/sdb, that's what it does. you can write a rule and say that you also want to mount certain drives
[03:24] <nyhcjedi> i have vbox and i got a xp copy working just not sure if it can be networked together with a server and stuff
[03:25] <kulahitatriboo_1> yes you can be network did you try bridge or hostonly network?
[03:25] <MTecknology> gp5st: udev doesn't need to be running for that, that's the kernel seeing the drive being connected
[03:25] <Losha> thebruce: in the man page for zip, see also -0 (under -#)
[03:25] <MTecknology> gp5st: could you pastebin top -b -n 1 | grep udev
[03:25] <gp5st> MTecknology: that's what udev does
[03:25] <nastjuid> davebs: what happens if you drop the interface on the one that doesn't work then bring it up with the dhcp client? (will probably have to plug keyboard in for that)
[03:25] <thebruce> under -#?
[03:26] <casemods> how can i change the time the boot menu asks??
[03:26] <kulahitatriboo_1> nyhcjedi, try bridge or host only network
[03:26] <gp5st> MTecknology: i'm on a mac
[03:26] <MTecknology> oh..
[03:26] <SvenG> thebruce: loscha is right! :) "-#     Regulate the speed of compression using the specified digit #, where -0 indicates  no        compression (store all files),"
[03:26] <Losha> thebruce: yes, where # is a digit from 0 (no compression) to 9....
[03:26] <thebruce> so
[03:26] <MTecknology> gp5st: if you don't have udev running that message will still show in in dmesg, udev has nothing to do with it
[03:26] <Sk_Lg> switch10_: installation failed, an uncaught exception was raised: [errno2] No such file or directory
[03:26] <thebruce> zip -0 /directory
[03:26] <davebs> nastjuid: Yeah, I've got an extra keyboard, what's the command?  Disconnect from network gui thing then dhcpd eth0?
[03:26] <SvenG> thebruce: zip -0 archivename $dir
[03:27] <Losha> SvenG: don't sound so surprised. I may be old but I can still read man pages... :-)
[03:27] <SvenG> Losha: err....?
[03:27] <gp5st> MTecknology: i'm pretty sure udev is what adds it to /dev otherwise it's just another usb device, unless it's different in ubuntu
[03:27] <Losha> SvenG: just joking...
[03:27] <nastjuid> davebs: disconnect, then dhclient eth0 might be dhcpcd etho
[03:27] <thebruce> zip warning: missing end signature--probably not a zip file (did you
[03:27] <thebruce> 	zip warning: remember to use binary mode when you transferred it?)
[03:27] <thebruce> 	zip warning: (if you are trying to read a damaged archive try -F)
[03:27] <thebruce> that's what is tells me
[03:27] <SvenG> Losha: ah :)
[03:27] <FloodBot4> thebruce: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:28] <SvenG> thebruce: what was your command which resulted in that error message?
[03:28] <thebruce> zip -0 framework-res.apk /home/bruce/Desktop/5056/
[03:28] <Losha> thebruce: it thinks you're trying to read a zip archive. You got the arguments wrong...
[03:28] <MTecknology> gp5st: I have no udev instance running, plug it in, I see the message in dmesg - that's a kernel module that handles that, udev should actually mount that to /media/xxx i think
[03:28] <thebruce> yeah i see that, im trying to create a zip
[03:28] <davebs> nastjuid: ha, awesome, dhcpcd not installed...
[03:28] <nastjuid> davebs: dhclient ?
[03:29] <Losha> thebruce: you need -r to recursively zip a directory...
[03:29] <SvenG> thebruce: "zip -0 foo.zip dir/" - works for me *shrug*
[03:29] <davebs> nastjuid: ugh, now i just reconnected, and it all works...
[03:29] <jordan> Hello, I was wondering if anyone in here played WoW with Ubuntu and could help me with a problem
[03:29] <casemods> can anyone help? my menu list is empty. I want to boot back into windows but it wont let me
[03:29] <thebruce> Losha, -r where?
[03:29] <gp5st> MTecknology: are you sure about that, i thought udev only created /dev entries and ran associated scripts
[03:30] <MTecknology> gp5st: I'm positive
[03:30] <Losha> thebruce: zip -r -0 framework-res.apk /home/bruce/Desktop/5056/
[03:30] <SvenG> casemods: menu list?  menu of *what*?  grub?
[03:30] <davebs> nastjuid: for future reference, I guess I should just create a batch script I can run that does ifconfig eth0 down then up huh?
[03:30] <nastjuid> davebs: so it got a dhcp advertisement?
[03:30] <Sk_Lg> switch10_: installation failed, an uncaught exception was raised: [errno2] No such file or directory; will a 512 memory stick work?
[03:30] <casemods> SvenG: yes grub
[03:30] <thebruce> hmm what does -r mean/do? when should i use that?
[03:30] <switch10_> Sk_Lg: no that is too small.  you need at least 700mb
[03:30] <nastjuid> davebs: if it's up the first time, you shouldn't need to
[03:30] <davebs> nastjuid: I guess, I tried restarting before but no dice
[03:30] <SvenG> casemods: okay... cant really help here... (not a grub expert), but you should mention "grub"! :)
[03:30] <davebs> nastjuid: But yeah, weird
[03:31] <Losha> thebruce: -r means to zip a directory and all the files/subdirectories inside it, recursively...
[03:31] <thebruce> hmm ok
[03:31] <SvenG> thebruce: "-r" = "recurse into directories"
[03:31] <jordan> casemods, is Windows not showing up in the OS Choices menu?
[03:31] <SvenG> hmm... i am getting a little slow here...  4:30am..
[03:31] <thebruce> ok so i zip -r -0 framework-res.apk /home/bruce/Desktop/5056/
[03:31] <casemods> Jordan there is no OS choices menu to speak of....i think it went away....
[03:31] <thebruce> and then i don't see the .zip now in /home/bruce/Desktop/5056
[03:32] <SvenG> thebruce: the zip file should be in $PWD
[03:32] <randomusr_> I'm creating a form using the wizard in base, but when I click finish, nothing happens. What's up?
[03:32] <ejv> why are you using .zip?
[03:32] <thebruce> whoa why SvenG
[03:32] <Losha> thebruce: zip -v -r -0 framework-res.apk /home/bruce/Desktop/5056/   <-- added -v verbose flag so you can see what it's doing
[03:32] <ejv> why wouldn't you use tar...
[03:32] <SvenG> ejv: he's creating a package file
[03:32] <davebs> nastjuid: Thank you for the help though, I really should find a hobby that is a bit more conducive to my sanity :-)
[03:33] <SvenG> ejv: has to be a zip file apparently
[03:33] <nastjuid> davebs: you have no idea how much that statement applies to me righ tnow
[03:33] <SvenG> thebruce: if you want your zip file to be created elsewhere then you must give the dir, too!
[03:33] <thebruce> ok i see a bunch of files that were compress
[03:33] <jiohdi> how do you set up wifi in icewm?
[03:33] <thebruce> well i gave the same directory at the end there SvenG
[03:33] <SvenG> thebruce: like.. "zip -r -0 /path/file.zip $dir"
[03:33] <kerim> hi
[03:34] <SvenG> thebruce: oh. must have missed this
[03:34] <thebruce> ohh well im cd'd into the directory where the file is
[03:34] <SvenG> too much scrolling in here ;-)
[03:34] <thebruce> ohh wait no im not lol
[03:34] <Losha> thebruce: the zip file should be in the current directory, named framework-res.apk.zip
[03:34] <jordan> Does anyone here play WoW with Wine?
[03:34] <SvenG> jordan: not me i aint
[03:35] <davebs> nastjuid: Haha, you and me both, you and me both...
[03:35] <S0cr4t3s> have 2 hard drives that were running software raid with LVM on top of that in Ubuntu 9.04.  Somehow the LVM info got hosed.  Now the /dev/md0 comes up as just Free Space.  pvscan, vgscan and lvscan come up with nothing.  Any ideas?
[03:35] <thebruce> ok so now im in the directory where my folder is
[03:36] <thebruce> and i run zip -v -r -0 framework-res.apk /home/bruce/Desktop/5056/
[03:36] <thebruce> and it tells me missing end signature like it's trying to read a zip again
[03:36] <Sk_Lg> switch10_: how do I format this particular thumb drive?
[03:36] <SvenG> thebruce: good! :)
[03:37] <thebruce> im sorry guys im actually quite capable but this is very strange and new to me
[03:37] <SvenG> thebruce: is your $PWD *within* /home/bruce/Deskto/5056/ ?
[03:37] <thebruce> im stuck in a windows frame of mind
[03:37] <SvenG> thebruce: ;)
[03:37] <thebruce> $PWD?
[03:37] <SvenG> thebruce: "the current working directory"
[03:37] <CkhiKuzad> your current directory
[03:37] <CkhiKuzad> use the command pwd
[03:37] <CkhiKuzad> it will show it
[03:37] <SvenG> thebruce: are you creating thearchive within the directory tree you are zupping?
[03:38] <thebruce> yes
[03:38] <SvenG> thebruce: ahaaaaa! recursion! ;-)
[03:38] <thebruce> my pwd is /home/bruce/Desktop/5056
[03:38] <SvenG> thebruce: doh!
[03:38] <ubuntuser> is it possible to select the installed packages from ubuntu desktop CD?
[03:38] <thebruce> my file i want to zip is in /home/bruce/Desktop/5056
[03:38] <SvenG> thebruce: so you are telling the zip file to create it within the directory your are zipping... baaaaad idea ;)
[03:39] <ubuntuser> I cannot see this in the installer
[03:39] <thebruce> ohh no
[03:39] <SvenG> thebruce: dont do it.
[03:39] <thebruce> lol
[03:39] <thebruce> this is the directory to the file /home/bruce/Desktop/5056/framework-res.apk
[03:39] <SvenG> thebruce: i recommend to it like this:
[03:39] <thebruce> i want the zip to be in the same parent folder
[03:39] <thebruce> in /home/bruce/Desktop/5056
[03:39] <thebruce> got me?
[03:39] <SvenG> thebruce: zip $options archive subdir/
[03:39] <mivance> silly question, but for a mini running netbook remix i find it almost impossible to find space on the panel to right-click for 'add to panel'; is there soem secret i'm missing?
[03:40] <jiohdi> mivance: you have to hunt for it, its there
[03:40] <SvenG> thebruce: i have seen this before.. i understand.. but it's not working like that
[03:40] <mivance> is there any other mechanism like editing config files?
[03:40] <thebruce> really strange ok ill make the output desktop
[03:40] <SvenG> thebruce: the archive cannot be part of the data itself
[03:41] <thebruce> right of course not
[03:41] <thebruce> im using zip -r and it's trying to read a zip and not create one!
[03:41] <SvenG> thebruce: so... "zip $options archive subdir/"
[03:41] <thebruce> ugh i don't understand
[03:42] <MTecknology> When I plug in an external drive, dmesg shows me that the drive and partitions are detected. I have pcmanfm installed and I want the new device to show up there so I can click and auto-mount the partition. The way I'm doing it now I have to drop to cli and manually mkdir && mount. What do I need to do for that to work?
[03:42] <SvenG> thebruce: you are creating the archive within the directory youa re zipping.  while adding data it extends your achive and thus has to reread your directory, adding data, and ... etc, see?
[03:43] <thebruce> SvenG no i am not doing that
[03:43] <Losha> thebruce: check you 'man zip' manpage. It's possible your version of zip uses different args...
[03:43] <thebruce> the directory i am zipping is /home/bruce/Desktop/5056/framework-res.apk
[03:43] <jordan> What is a Floodbot?
[03:44] <thebruce> the output directory is /home/bruce/Desktop/
[03:44] <SvenG> thebruce:  /home/bruce/Desktop/5056/framework-res.apk is a *directory* name?
[03:44] <thebruce> framework-res.apk is a folder
[03:44] <thebruce> yes
[03:44] <SvenG> thebruce: oh-kay....
[03:45] <Losha> jordan: a floodbot is a program which looks for flooding (too many lines of text typed too quickly) and silences the offender temporarily...
[03:45] <SvenG> thebruce: zip -r -0 /home/bruce/Desktop/foo.zip /home/bruce/Desktop/5056/framework-res.apk
[03:45] <jordan> Ahh like a spam controller thanks Losha :D
[03:45] <extor> Besides openvz are there any other types of jail/chroot environments in karmic? I want to run a cgi script that I would like to sandbox if possible...
[03:45] <thebruce> what is foo.zip
[03:45] <un214> ugh
[03:45] <SvenG> thebruce: i thought the resulting *achive file name* should be foo."apk"
[03:46] <un214> I just discovered qemu-kvm package assumes it is being installed to the running system as opposed to a chroot jail or an emergency disk
[03:46] <thebruce> ok
[03:46] <SvenG> thebruce: "foo.zip" is a general name of the resulting archive
[03:46] <thebruce> ahh so the name of the created zip come BEFORE the folder im zipping?
[03:46] <thebruce> kind of seems backwards to me
[03:46] <SvenG> thebruce: YES :)
[03:46] <thebruce> i.e. the cp command or rm
[03:47] <thebruce> well not rm but the cp
[03:47] <SvenG> thebruce: not quite.  the archive name comes first, so the *rest* of line can be a LIST of files and diretories
[03:47] <SvenG> thebruce: i think you want this: "zip -r -0  /home/bruce/Desktop/framework-res.apk /home/bruce/Desktop/5056/"
[03:48] <thebruce> yeah i do
[03:48] <SvenG> thebruce: and let's abbreviate "/home/bruce/" with "~/" ;)
[03:48] <thebruce> ahh yeah ~ is home right?
[03:48] <thebruce> i am learning some things
[03:48] <SvenG> thebruce: should be.  with every good shell. :)
[03:48] <SvenG> thebruce: you can check with "echo $HOME"
[03:49] <SvenG> thebruce: and when you "cd ~/Desktop" before the zip command then the command becomes even shorter
[03:49] <thebruce> ohh ok
[03:49] <Lunix4noobs> ubuntu is for fagas
[03:49] <SvenG> thebruce: "cd ~/Desktop; zip -r -0  framework-res.apk 5056/"
[03:49] <Lunix4noobs> homo
[03:49] <Lunix4noobs> fuck this
[03:49] <Lunix4noobs> ubuntu sucks
[03:49] <FloodBot1> Lunix4noobs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:50] <maco> Lunix4noobs: watch your mouth
[03:50] <SvenG> Lunix4noobs: dont tell them.  just move on.  bye!
[03:50] <Lunix4noobs> im the man
[03:50] <Lunix4noobs> MAC for life
[03:50] <SvenG> so.. back to solving problems..
[03:50] <Lunix4noobs> fuck ubuntus
[03:50] <maco> !ops | Lunix4noobs language
[03:50] <FloodBot1> Lunix4noobs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:50] <biping> Anyone: what does "hidden symbol referenced by DSO" mean? reported when linking object files and lib files?
[03:50] <thebruce> SvenG, that zip command is putting home/desktop/5056 in the zip
[03:50] <Lunix4noobs> lol
[03:50] <thebruce> i don't need that
[03:51] <SvenG> biping: google finds some stuff on OpenWRT...
[03:51] <biping> SvenG: What's  OpenWRT?
[03:52] <SvenG> biping: an OS for access points
[03:52] <SvenG> thebruce: did you type that correctly?  i sense a typo...
[03:52] <John-_> John{brb}
[03:52] <thebruce> i cp'd
[03:53] <biping> I got this message when linking obj files with libtool
[03:53] <SvenG> thebruce: copy&paste?  or copying by typing?
[03:53] <thebruce> i copied what you typed and pasted in term
[03:53] <biping> SvenG: can't see any relate to OS
[03:54] <biping> SvenG: compiling issues, i think
[03:54] <SvenG> biping: might be.. *shrug*
[03:54] <SvenG> biping: i am really bad at guessing what people do from compile errors ;)
[03:54] <thebruce> is there no gui that will compress with no compressions?
[03:55] <biping> SvenG: all rights, thanks!
[03:55] <SvenG> thebruce: once you master the command line stuff you dont want no gui ;)
[03:55] <thebruce> well this is getting crazy
[03:55] <Jordan_U> thebruce: Please rephrase your question.
[03:55] <SvenG> thebruce: it's a lot easier whwn you can see what someone is really doing ;)
[03:55] <thebruce> i don't understand why i can't zip this folder and have it out put that same folder but zipped
[03:56] <thebruce> when i get it to zip, it creates my linux directories in the zip
[03:56] <SvenG> thebruce: that's because you "cd" *into* that tree
[03:57] <thebruce> ok
[03:57] <thebruce> im at ~ now
[03:57] <thebruce> which is bruce@bruce-ubuntu:~$
[03:58] <thebruce> how can i make turn a folder in a zip?
[03:58] <SvenG> thebruce: "zip -0 -r framework-res.apk Desktop/5056/" now
[03:58] <Gla> hey guys, curious what you guys think of http://tap.info
[03:58] <SvenG> gla: tap.info... "real-time communities"?
[03:59] <SvenG> Gla: as in "chat"?
[03:59] <SvenG> Gla: or "IRC"?
[03:59] <thebruce> ok where is the zip now?
[04:00] <SvenG> thebruce: in the *current* diretory... your home dir.
[04:00] <SvenG> thebruce: ls -l *apk
[04:00] <SvenG> jzacsh: hmm... your login shell is... csh!  no.. zsh! ;-)
[04:00] <useradmin_> hi
[04:01] <thebruce> i see
[04:01] <thebruce> ok
[04:01] <useradmin_> any one from australia
[04:01] <SvenG> thebruce: "we have a apk!"  right?
[04:01] <SvenG> thebruce: missiona ccomplished?
[04:01] <thebruce> ahh yes
[04:01] <thebruce> ok
[04:01] <SvenG> thebruce: check with "file *apk"
[04:01] <thebruce> now i need to comprehend this
[04:02] <jzacsh> SvenG: :) bash actually, don't you see it? (the be is hidden)
[04:02] <SvenG> jzacsh: yeah... once needs to get started with *something* ;)
[04:03] <useradmin_> Im 24 year old from north suburbs melbourne australia i have black hair brown eyes 179 cm and 80 kg single and looking add me on msn messenger at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>thanks
[04:03] <dancallo> does anyone know if a .dmg file can be installed and used in Ubuntu?
[04:03] <SvenG> jzacsh: chsh -> /bin/zsh  ;-)
[04:03] <thebruce> i don't quite understand how that worked really, it's hard to understand
[04:03] <SvenG> useradmin_: wrooooooooong channel ;-)
[04:03] <maco> SvenG: too slow
[04:03] <dancallo> way wrong channel useradmin
[04:03] <SvenG> thebruce: we need to talk ... ;-)
[04:03] <Gla> tap
[04:03] <thebruce> lol
[04:04] <SvenG> maco: huh?
[04:04] <Gla> :)
[04:04] <thebruce> so zip -0 -r  i get that
[04:04] <thebruce> i was at my home dir
[04:04] <maco> SvenG: useradmin_ had already left
[04:04] <SvenG> maco: ah!
[04:04] <thebruce> and i didn't cd to tell it where the framework-res.apk was
[04:04] <dancallo> Home sweet, <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:04] <SvenG> maco: too much scrolling.. ;)
[04:04] <Gla> SvenG: yea
[04:05] <Gla> hook yourself up with your real-time community
[04:05] <Gla> common, I know you want to
[04:05] <thebruce> wait i think i get it now SvenG
[04:05] <SvenG> Gla: gimme three reasons why tap.info is better than IRC!
[04:06] <SvenG> hint: "it's web two oh... uh... color... and.. it's new" - that wont do it. ;-)
[04:06] <dancallo> Can a file with a .dmg file extension be converted and used in Ubuntu?
[04:06] <voss749> What if a computer running 9.10 is not seeing the upgrade to 10.04 beta?
[04:07] <SvenG> solar flares?
[04:07] <nomasteryoda> voss749, it won't until the release is out
[04:07] <switch10_> voss749: it wont until 10.04 is released..
[04:07] <Gla> SvenG: scaleable, easiley accessable, it's name is tap
[04:07] <nomasteryoda> =D
[04:07] <maco> dancallo: might be able to get it open but those usually have executables for OSX in them which you wouldnt be able to run
[04:07] <voss749> 10.04 beta is out
[04:07] <nomasteryoda> no the actual release
[04:07] <voss749> Its at beta 2
[04:07] <SvenG> Gla: so is irc.  try again!
[04:07] <voss749> so how do you get the beta release
[04:07] <dancallo> That's what I thought but wanted to ask someone else as verification.
[04:07] <Gla> nope!
[04:07] <jzacsh> SvenG: pm?
[04:08] <dancallo> Thanks, maco.
[04:08] <Gla> SvenG: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392799
[04:08] <switch10_> voss749: yes exactly. key word being beta
[04:08] <Gla> try that out for size lol
[04:08] <maco> dancallo: its just a disk image, so yeah theres probably a way to open it like you would any zip (i mean, .exe's are often just .zip's with a different ending)
[04:08] <maco> bah
[04:08] <steven__> hello i need help with wine
[04:08] <xangua> !help > steven__
[04:09] <SvenG> Gla: so your point is that channels can be too noisy?  why - certainly.  but you can create other channels just be joining them.  so - what was your point again?
[04:09] <Gla> I'm not going to argue here
[04:09] <Gla> tap is superior, that's that.
[04:09] <thebruce> ahh SvenG sorry man got an issue
[04:09] <steven__> !help
[04:09] <Gla> :)
[04:10] <SvenG> Gla: dont see why.  maybe you can explain...
[04:10] <SvenG> thebruce: yeessss?
[04:10] <Gla> SvenG: first off, you don't get all the users on IRC
[04:11] <Gla> there are TONS of people who woul dlike to be invovled with #ubuntu but don't use IRC
[04:11] <SvenG> Gla: you never get "all" of them... no matter what protocol
[04:11] <steven__> xangua:i download a pro. called mule farm and dose not run in wine
[04:11] <Gla> well, you can get a HELL of a lot more
[04:11] <SvenG> Gla: not *yet*
[04:11] <Gla> lol
[04:11] <ack_syn> I need to configure an user I create to be able to create tcp bind on tcp port 80, just like nobody does. how do I do it?
[04:11] <Gla> not yet?  25 years later? lol
[04:11] <hiexpo> !language
[04:11] <SvenG> Gla: and you think you can get *all* of them with tap.info?  good luck!
[04:12] <Gla> obviously not
[04:12] <Gla> but a lot more
[04:12] <ack_syn> anyone ?
[04:12] <Gla> more then 50% more
[04:12] <SvenG> Gla: more thAn?
[04:12] <steven__> !offtopic
[04:12] <Gla> absolutely
[04:12] <xangua> !wine > steven__
[04:12] <SvenG> Gla: proof?
[04:12] <Gla> SvenG: have this conversation on tap, not here, it's to noisy ;)
[04:13] <SvenG> Gla:  ah - that's how you get them!
[04:13] <SvenG> Gla: "we'll tell you when you're *there*!"
[04:13] <Gla> hahaha ;)
[04:13] <akiwiguy> !wine
[04:13] <Gla> SvenG: I'm going to get some dinner, try it out though
[04:13] <halfie> histo, does ubuntu has ssh connection manager which I can use?
[04:14] <SvenG> Gla: naah.  been trying out so much... kept getting back to irc. ;)
[04:14] <halfie> I have to login to around 30 machines, it would be really nice to have something similar to putty
[04:14] <benkevan> halfie: openssh
[04:14] <SvenG> Gla: after all, i've been using it for 20+ years now
[04:14] <ardchoille> !ot | SvenG Gla
[04:14] <SvenG> halfie: openssh! :)
[04:14] <thebruce> SvenG im here sorry
[04:14] <halfie> benkevan: yes of course I use ssh all the time but a gui on top (like putty) would be great!
[04:14] <SvenG> ubottu: okie :)
[04:14] <switch10_> halfie: setup aliases in .bash_aliases, and just use ssh
[04:15] <benkevan> halfie: if you want "config" files you can just have a bunch of scripts to go to the respected servers with ssh in a directory.. etc..
[04:15] <switch10_> *openssh
[04:15] <benkevan> or as switch10 said.. you can just set up a bunch of aliases.. (i'd have too many)
[04:15] <halfie> benkevan: I have 30 scripts in my ~/bin now to do just that :(
[04:16] <SvenG> halfie: "ssh user@host: remotecommand"  :-)
[04:16] <switch10_> halfie: so you are already set up!! :)
[04:16] <benkevan> halfie: that's not too bad.. mine would be north of 200 haha....
[04:16] <halfie> heh ... 200 .. that is encouraging :D
[04:17] <akiwiguy> halfie: http://putty.very.rulez.org/download.html look near the bottom for Unix source code, download, compile, install.
[04:18] <halfie> akiwiguy: thanks .. will give it a shot
[04:18] <switch10_> halfie: just a question, what makes putty any easier?  I have never used it..
[04:19] <halfie> switch10: ohh you should give it a try. it is pretty neat  (you can see all your connections in the GUI)
[04:19] <halfie> so you don't have to remember the scripts
[04:20] <switch10_> halfie: is it easier than just typing a name though?
[04:20] <switch10_> halfie: i mean if you had aliases set up
[04:20] <benkevan> halfie.. you can do an ls.. and that would show you all your scripts
[04:20] <benkevan> I don't get how that's better?
[04:20] <halfie> switch10_: heh, instead of typing you can click ;)
[04:20] <switch10_> halfie: ahh
[04:21] <halfie> sort of filezilla like interface or maybe like gftp software interface
[04:21] <benkevan> halfie: you can go to a file manager and see all your scripts and launch it into a terminal if that's what you really want..
[04:21] <benkevan> I don't see how putty does something that you can't on your machine..
[04:22] <halfie> benkevan: yes I will do that. putty does not provide extra functionality though some might argue that it is slightly more convenient
[04:22] <switch10_> halfie: if you want to click on something, you could make desktop short cuts for each machine....
[04:23] <yanghong> hi there, how can I call 'indicate' in the command line ? thks
[04:23] <halfie> switch10_: ahh that is a good idea ... yes I will make ssh folder on my desktop and put all my connections there. will launch using file manager ...
[04:23] <david_brent> hi, is there a ppa for kernel 2.6.33, i'm on karmic..how can i easily get the 2.6.33 ?
[04:23] <benkevan> halfie there is a kde application that has a GUI that has saved connections
[04:23] <benkevan> if that's what you really want
[04:23] <slckb0y> someone is using KDE in a Vbox ?
[04:23] <halfie> benkevan: kssh?
[04:23] <yanghong> I want to show indicate in a shell script
[04:24] <switch10_> halfie: create launchers...  but yeah I think it is much faster to just type a name.
[04:24] <benkevan> halfie: Yes.. kssh
[04:24] <benkevan> how would you ever have guessed :D
[04:24] <benkevan> or was that a kguess HAHAHAHAH
[04:24] <halfie> was just googling
[04:24] <halfie> keychain is awesome :)
[04:24] <benkevan> so are keys :P
[04:24] <halfie> it has made my ssh-ing so much fun ;)
[04:25] <hunahpu> slckb0y: no, but I have kde installed along gnome and xfce
[04:25] <halfie> keychain is just a wrapper around ssh-agent .. its CLI based
[04:26] <benkevan> ah..
[04:26] <slckb0y> hum well the problem is i can't manage to activate openGL under KDE, it doesn't recognise the emulated driver