[09:07] <uhriventis> Like when I move my mouse left right up down the whole desktop moves.
[09:07] <Bodsda> is there any way of running a file system check on an ntfs drive from within ubuntu?
[09:08] <fccf> uhreiventis: ubottu is a robot - you cannot ask it questions
[09:08] <uhriventis> Also, how do I open NVIDIA's program as root so I can save changes.
[09:08] <Bodsda> uhriventis: gksudo nvidia-settings
[09:08] <uhriventis> OH
[09:08] <uhriventis> Nice
[09:09] <ManDay> darlek, i have no such item in the view menu
[09:09] <QaDeS_> kenyon: any idea about the pastie? been doing linux for 10 years now, but until now all hogging could be cleared by looking at top or ps ;) i feel like i'm missing some new magic knowledge
[09:09] <darlek> ManDay: click on Home an the tree on the left should be there, then click on the network you're sftp'ing to ... does that return the tree view?
[09:09] <ManDay> Click on home, where, darlek
[09:09] <darlek> ManDay, Places
[09:09] <ignusb> hello. I've just installed ubuntu 9.04 on my desktop from the live-cd, now getting "GRUB - Error 17" every time I try to boot. I've tried a filesystem check/repair on each of the partitions of the HDD it's installed on, I've tried re-installing/re-configuring GRUB, and it stays as just Error 17. My config is 3 HDD's, ubuntu installed on the 3rd HDD as seen in the BIOS, WXP installed on the 1st, I'd like to be able to dual boot. At the moment,
[09:09] <ignusb> I can't single boot however, so that would be a nice start. Any suggestions from anyone of what I can do next?
[09:10] <fccf> Bodsda - you will need to install gparted and ntfs-3g to work with ntfs and run a check on it
[09:10] <ManDay> When I addded the bookmark for the ftp it got added to my desktop by an ugly long name and places - how can i remove it? IO cant delete it from the desktop!
[09:10] <Slart> ignusb: what does grub error 17 mean?
[09:10] <Bodsda> fccf: got both
[09:10] <ManDay> darkle, no when i went to "home" the tree didnt appear
[09:10] <uhriventis> Thanks bod
[09:10] <uhriventis> I knew it was something like that
[09:10] <black_wolf_92> ignusb. Post the output of your terminal for "gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[09:10] <pooky> oui lol
[09:11] <darlek> ManDay: it's a link, so it can only be unmounted.  Places and Nautilus can unmount it or rename it.
[09:11] <fccf> Bodsda: run gparted with ntfs unmounted . select the drive - upper right hand corner... right click on partition and check
[09:11] <uhriventis> It lets me do 1280X1080 but I have to scroll around. As if the res is to large
[09:11] <darlek> ManDay: not sure why it's even on the desktop though
[09:11] <Bodsda> Slart: according to http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html its an invalid device request
[09:11] <Rashmi> Google Wave to "redefine" E-mail communication...
[09:11] <Rashmi> Will this killer attempt succeed ??
[09:11] <ManDay> Yeah, why the f is it on my desktop....
[09:11] <Rashmi> people who aren't ware of Google wave ..check out at my blog for more details
[09:11] <Rashmi> http://www.techfancy.co.cc
[09:11] <FloodBot3> Rashmi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:11] <darlek> ManDay, I use slicehost and it's a bookmark not a desktop file
[09:11] <fccf> uhriventis: you may be stuck with 1024x768
[09:12] <darlek> haha
[09:12] <darlek> good question
[09:12] <bullgard4> Synaptic: "For ALSA to work on a system with a given sound card, there must be an ALSA driver for that card in the kernel." My Audio device is 'Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)'. What is "the ALSA driver for that card" in the kernel? Is it "snd_hda_intel"? lsmod lists another 12 modules with 'snd' in their names.
[09:12] <darlek> !sound
[09:12] <eseven73> Ping_Pong, don't spam here please.
[09:13] <Ping_Pong> hey i just thought of sharing info thats it
[09:13] <nanobot_> !sound
[09:13] <Ping_Pong> not spaming
[09:13] <mak_3> Hi
[09:13] <spexor> does anyone know how to designate which monitor is the "main" one?
[09:13] <CybeRebel> hello all, can someone help me change system sounds please
[09:13] <fccf> bullgard4: snd_hda_intel is the correct driver ... type aplay -l to list devices
[09:13] <ignusb> Slart: I can't work out what error 17 is, though it appears to be when GRUB can find the partition, but can't mount it for some reason, possibly that it doesn't recognise the FS. I used the ubuntu auto-partition thing, so it's set to ext3
[09:13] <uhriventis> fccf: why does windows do it and openSUSE but not ubuntu?
[09:13] <darlek> CybeRebel, System Preferences Sounds then click the Sounds tab
[09:13] <spexor> no one?
[09:13] <Bodsda> ignusb: your almost correct, try googling 'grub error codes'
[09:14] <fccf> Slart: grub is looking in the wrong place for the partition
[09:14] <CybeRebel> tryed that but it wont open sound folders
[09:14] <ignusb> and black_wolf_92 seems to have left, but I have no idea how to bring up that file, it doesn't seem to exist on the local system, from what I typed. Guessing I'm going to have to mount something first
[09:14] <fccf> uhriventis: windows do what??
[09:14] <Bodsda> fccf: shhh, its a learning experience -- slart is the helper btw
[09:14] <Slart> ignusb: did you have a pastebin of your /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[09:14] <ManDay> i cant resize the "Name" column in nautilus to take less than 80% of the screen, although there is no file with such a long name!!
[09:14] <ignusb> /boot/grub/menu.lst is a blank file
[09:14] <ManDay> and the tree view just wont come up
[09:14] <darlek> !grub
[09:14] <Slart> fccf: thanks =)
[09:14] <uhriventis> Windows does 1280X1080 just fine as with SUSE
[09:14] <ManDay> wtf is that whole thing...
[09:14] <mobi-sheep> eseven73: Yes, he was spamming.  He came in... spam away.... and left.
[09:15] <uhriventis> But, ubuntu has a problem for some reason
[09:15] <Slart> ignusb: blank? ehm.. that's bad.. really sure it's blank?
[09:15] <eseven73> mobi-sheep, yep gotta love those hit-and-run spammers/trolls
[09:15] <mak_3> hello all, can someone help me to transfer mails from Thunderbird installed in Windows to Thunderbird installed to Ubuntu
[09:15] <uhriventis> Along with Fedora, Debian, Redhat, they all have no problems
[09:15] <Slart> ignusb: what's the setup of your machine? ubuntu version? number of drives? separate partitions for things?
[09:15] <darlek> ManDay, lol man i don't know... Under Places.. Bookmarks.. does your server exist there?
[09:15] <uhriventis> Slax etc
[09:15] <ignusb> well, it opened in gedit, and there is nothing in the file. upon further investigation... /boot/grub does not exist
[09:16] <darlek> ManDay, as a link I mean
[09:16] <ignusb> unless I'm looking in the wrong drive, distinct possibility
[09:16] <ManDay> yes it does darlek
[09:16] <BlackWolf1> gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:16] <BlackWolf1> sorry for mistake
[09:16] <BlackWolf1> u need the forward slash
[09:16] <fccf> uhriventis: the nvidia xorg is a different version, have you tried running detect displays from nvidia-settings as root
[09:16] <uhriventis> Ubuntu 9.04 Dual AMD 64 4200+ 1 gig ram
[09:16] <nanobot_> !sound
[09:16] <uhriventis> 256 NVIDA card
[09:16] <ManDay> darlek, i found a way to enable tree view.
[09:16] <uhriventis> No let me try now
[09:17] <songer> hey I did reboot but It says only one softwere management tool is allowed
[09:17] <bullgard4> fccf: What do you mean by "correct"? Does you statement mean the others are in my kernel errorneously and can be removed without harm?
[09:17] <darlek> ManDay, oh?
[09:17] <ManDay> in the pereferences i checked "always open in browser window"
[09:17] <darlek> ManDay, cool
[09:17] <BlackWolf1> so ignusb type [gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst] in the terminal
[09:17] <pooky> Hello, i have a camera problem again , i dowlaoded f-spot but it says in the source finding that it didn't detect a camera
[09:17] <bullgard4> s/you/your/
[09:17] <ManDay> i dont see the connection, but whatever
[09:17] <BlackWolf1> it shouldn't be a blank file. If it IS you have a problem
[09:17] <uhriventis> Also, the monitor I use is old... A Gateway2000
[09:17] <ManDay> so, now i need to get rid of the icon on my desktop
[09:17] <ignusb> ok, found it. I'm currently running from the live cd, I had to navigate to a different hdd where it's stored
[09:17] <fccf> songer: there is a lock in /var/lock/apt you will need to remove as root
[09:18] <BlackWolf1> ah ok
[09:18] <BlackWolf1> forgot that bit of info
[09:18] <Slart> ignusb: ah.. that would explain it.. so now you have a menu.lst file, right?
[09:18] <BlackWolf1> now could you past this to a copy paste site
[09:18] <darlek> ManDay, which tab is that in prefs?
[09:18] <BlackWolf1> and we can have a look from there
[09:18] <songer> fhow can I do that?
[09:18] <uhriventis> Detect displays does nothing
[09:18] <Slart> !pastebin | ignusb
[09:18] <mak_3> hello all, can someone help me to transfer mails from Thunderbird installed on Windows to Thunderbird installed on Ubuntu???
[09:18] <ignusb> I'm on IRC from my laptop, the desktop has a shifty NIC, not co-operating at the moment. different issue
[09:18] <ignusb> though I'll connect up and give it a go for that...
[09:19] <fccf> uhriventis: don't know what to tell you
[09:19] <BlackWolf1> there are a lot of people who can help with grub problems, as they are fairly common. You will find a solution, its just that there are a lot of possibilites
[09:19] <ManDay> darlek, what do you mean which tab?
[09:19] <Slart> ignusb: ok.. let's see what we can do... if you open the file up you'll first see a lot of text.. comments and settings bla bla bla..some way down in the file you'll see a list of kernels.. about 5 lines for each kernel.. do you see that part?
[09:19] <achilles> p1oooop, it seems x problem, I rebuilt the driver and the same problem
[09:19] <brennus> Does anyone have experience with Avidemux, Kino, or other video-editing software? I need to rotate some scenes, and can't figure it out in either of these.
[09:19] <darlek> ManDay, in nautilus... Edit ... prefs... is that where you found always open in tree view?
[09:20] <Bodsda> omg, /start_rant  my windows was bsoding because of an unclean filesystem, it wouldnt chkdsk itself, but when i try to mount it on ubuntu it says -- "unclean filesystem... fixing" << Thank you mr linux, have a cookie /end_rant
[09:20] <spexor> does anyone know why amarok can't play my god damn mp3's?
[09:20] <Bodsda> spexor: have you installed the gstreamer libraries?
[09:20] <BlackWolf1> go to add remove programs
[09:20] <BlackWolf1> and search gstreamer
[09:20] <Slart> ignusb: if you look at my file at http://pastebin.com/f40922f2d  , the part I'm talking about starts at line 133
[09:20] <spexor> i have not. but i will
[09:20] <ManDay> darlek, no its called "always open in browser windows" under "behaviour"
[09:20] <uhriventis> Yeah it's weird.
[09:20] <uhriventis> I think it's just ubuntu
[09:20] <ManDay> very unintuitive, i admit
[09:21] <ignusb> got it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/185472/
[09:21] <ManDay> Can someone help me with the following two problems: (1) Every time I connect to a server with natuilus a desktop icon appears. (2) The "Name"-Column in Natuilus can'T be resized to below 80% of the window width.
[09:21] <darlek> ManDay, wow, glad I have it there already... I would never have guessed
[09:22] <spexor> it says they're all installed
[09:22] <Bodsda> ignusb: could you provide us with the output of    sudo fdisk -l   please (in a pastebin)
[09:22] <ManDay> darlek, me either - i just found it googling the ubuntu forums
[09:22] <mak_3> hello all, can someone help me to transfer mails from Thunderbird installed on WindowsXp (I hate) to Thunderbird installed on Ubuntu???
[09:22] <fccf> songer: I can't help you with that ... buy a book on linux command line
[09:22] <achilles> p1oooop1, I believe it's Xserver problem, not driver
[09:22] <Bodsda> spexor: if you have rhythmbox, try playing them with that to see if it is amaroks fault
[09:22] <Slart> ignusb: have you edited this file by hand?
[09:22] <songer> fccf darlek thank you for your help< I'll try it tomorrow
[09:23] <songer> ok
[09:23] <ignusb> I haven't touched the file, it's exactly as it was generated.
[09:23] <ManDay> As a matter of fact the so called "tree view" isnt even a tree-view is it?!
[09:23] <ignusb> Bodsda, working on it.
[09:23] <CybeRebel> anyone know why sounds folders wont open (sys/preferences/sound/sounds tab) ?
[09:23] <Bodsda> ignusb: cheers
[09:23] <songer> ok fccf I'll do that
[09:23] <ManDay> It's not like you had a tree of folders on the left, is it?
[09:23] <achilles> p1oooop1, startx gives the following : Fatal server error : no screens found
[09:23] <darlek> ManDay, ah no... details details..
[09:23] <ManDay> ah nevermind
[09:23] <BlackWolf1> Yep, basically ignusb, before we check for OTHER problems, we'll just do a quick check on whether your fdisk output, matches your boot menu file. Ater that, we can check for other issues
[09:24] <ManDay> i just figured that the type of the side panel can be changed
[09:24] <ignusb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/185474/
[09:24] <darlek> ManDay, technically a list view but hey
[09:24] <pooky> Could someone PLEASE help me...
[09:24] <Bodsda> ignusb: what are you having problems botting, win1, win2 or ubuntu?
[09:24] <Slart> ignusb: hmm.. let me check some stuff.. you've got some strange things in your file but I'm not sure if it's something they've changed in jaunty
[09:24] <fccf> !ask | pooky
[09:25] <ignusb> Bodsda, it won't even get to the bootloader UI
[09:25] <pooky> fccf, I've asked 3 times.. for the last 3àmin...
[09:25] <pooky> 30minutes*
[09:25] <Bodsda> ignusb: oh, you get error 17 before grub menu?
[09:25] <darlek> ManDay, how about under prefs view, setting to compact mode then under 50% while having fixed all columns the same?  maybe then you can view the file under 80%?
[09:25] <rj_d> Hi I am still not able to embed the video in the VLC
[09:25] <ignusb> it says something along the lines of "Loading GRUB   <CRLF>  Error 17"
[09:25] <ManDay> well it just bothers me that i cant resize the column as i wish
[09:25] <rj_d> i tried usign gstremer-terminal
[09:26] <ManDay> it just gets stuck at a certain point
[09:26] <ManDay> not always 80% tho. depends on the folder im in
[09:26] <rj_d> but not working
[09:26] <darlek> ManDay, the mouse hover on the edge doesn't do anything?
[09:26] <songer> ok thank you  goodbye
[09:26] <Bodsda> ignusb: ah, that clears things up -- I think reinstalling grub may help
[09:26] <ManDay> well it goes into "reizse mode" but when i try to actually resize the collumn i cant get it below a certain point
[09:26] <rj_d> Please help.. Wat I have to do to embed the video in VLC..
[09:26] <ignusb> already done it, twice :P
[09:27] <pooky> Ok my question is , how come when i use my cemera the canon G9, my computer doesn't recognize it, i've tried using F-spot but doesn't change anything...
[09:27] <Bodsda> ignusb: and no change from the error 17?
[09:27] <ignusb> always Error 17
[09:27] <CybeRebel> please help, to change system sounds, do i need to run as root?
[09:27] <darlek> ManDay, if you're under View List try View icons .. then you might be able to rename it there
[09:27] <ignusb> same place, before the UI apperas
[09:27] <spexor> that's wierd
[09:27] <darlek> ManDay, or see what the hell it is
[09:27] <BlackWolf1> ignusb: try entering your BIOS and check for settings such as "Detecting Drives" etc
[09:27] <darlek> lol
[09:27] <fccf> pooky: the recommendation is buy $5 usb reader
[09:27] <spexor> amarok won't play but rythmbox will
[09:27] <BlackWolf1> it sounds as if its a bios specific problem
[09:27] <ManDay> No, darlek not able to rename it either
[09:28] <Slart> ignusb: ok, it was as I suspected.. it's a new jaunty thing.. your menu.lst file looks ok
[09:28] <darlek> argh
[09:28] <ManDay> The ugly thing just sits there and annoys me
[09:28] <achilles> guys, how do I know if I have a driver problem or Xserver problem when my  gnome tries to start, it gives a black screen with some colored horizontal lines and freezed response
[09:28] <ignusb> BlackWolf1: I've gone into the BIOS, redetected each of the drives, each is seen as the correct size
[09:28] <achilles> frozen*
[09:28] <darlek> sweet
[09:28] <BlackWolf1> hmm, this is odd indeed
[09:28] <darlek> well I'm off.  have a good night/morning...
[09:28] <rj_d>  p1oooop1: I think my driver is working fine  and I have tried all combination in gstreamer-terminal
[09:28] <BlackWolf1> have you made a topic on ubuntu forums? Your more likely to get help from long termers there, as people with similar problems will find the thread
[09:28]  * darlek cheers
[09:29] <ignusb> no I haven't, that was going to be the next step after here.
[09:29] <BlackWolf1> its beyond my scope, and most likely a hardware specific issue
[09:29] <BlackWolf1> make sure in the post, you put all your computer specs etc
[09:29] <BlackWolf1> good luck with it all though, i hope you can sort this out
[09:29] <fccf> !ubuntuforums is how I learned ubuntu and how to fix things
[09:29] <pooky> Oh sorry fccf, I've already asked that question, I mean my other question was...That There's this website that plays music (only plays no downloads) on a playlist that requires flash plugin,...i put flash but it still doesn't work so...Now I'm hopeless...
[09:30] <ignusb> alright, thanks for the assistance. Slart, any other ideas? or shall I put it to the forum
[09:30] <Bodsda> Slart: BlackWolf1 -- all yours, i need to fix my windows install
[09:30] <fccf> pooky: try gnash
[09:30] <Slart> ignusb: nah... from what I can tell your menu.lst file looks ok... the uuid's might be wrong but I don't really know how to check that
[09:31] <Slart> ignusb: I would try reinstalling grub, just because it's a pretty easy and quick solution if it works
[09:31] <BlackWolf1> well it seems he's not even getting to the UI, which indicates an issue BEFORE the boot menu has even been loaded
[09:32] <Slart> ignusb: you're not using some BIOS feature to select which hard drive to boot from?
[09:32] <AdvoWork> Hi there. on one of our servers we always ssh to it, using root, and perform any tasks etc. I know this is bad practice, so im going to create a series of users. whats the best way to go about this? 2 users will need admin type privalages without being able to destroy things?
[09:32] <nickgrey147> can i take a oracle data base on a ntfs drive out of a window 2003 server pop it in a linux machine and hook it with oracle , and run it on ntfs with out a problem
[09:32] <nickgrey147> with the right ntfs drivers of cos ?
[09:32] <ignusb> Slart, not that I'm aware of.
[09:33] <ignusb> I'll check that again though.
[09:33] <flintwingel> !sudo
[09:33] <tiyowan> nickgrey147: I'd check the Oracle documentation for that.
[09:33] <Slart> ignusb: no need to check.. you would know if you were =)
[09:33] <Slart> ignusb: some BIOS have a little boot menu of their own.. where the different drives popup and you can select one to boot from
[09:33] <ignusb> ok, no, not using that.
[09:34] <Slart> ignusb: then try a reinstall of grub.. if that doesn't fix it write a post on the forums
[09:34] <spexor> does ANYONE know how to switch which monitor is the main one?
[09:34] <pshr_> ^_^
[09:34] <pshr_> /
[09:34] <spexor> i've been asking for the past half hour
[09:35] <achilles> guys please help, aticonfig give : no supported adapters detected!
[09:35] <Slart> spexor: I do it using nvidia-settings
[09:35] <indus> spexor: WHICH verrsion of ubuntu u using?
[09:35] <ignusb> Slart: already reinstalled twice, so to the forums it is.
[09:35] <yokobr> Does anybody knows any RAD tool for linux, except Lazarus?
[09:35] <ignusb> thanks for the assistance. have a good day/night
[09:36] <tannersummers_> Guys i cant seem to partition my partitions i have 32 gb free unacounlted space and yet i cant add it to windows or linux partition in 3 diff partition managers
[09:36] <Slart> ignusb: you're welcome.. hope you get it fixed
[09:36] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: Which partition managers have you tried?
[09:36] <brennus>  Does anyone have experience with Avidemux, Kino, or other video-editing software? I need to rotate some scenes, and can't figure it out in either of these.
[09:37] <tannersummers_> gparted and KDE partitoon manager and windows partiton manager (came with vista)
[09:37] <indus> !kino
[09:37] <spexor> the newest version
[09:37] <spexor> i just installed it today
[09:37] <spexor> i'm running an ATI 4950
[09:37] <brennus> !Avidemux
[09:37] <spexor> on an i7 system
[09:37] <tannersummers_> !partition
[09:37] <fccf> brennus: are you trying to rotate video?
[09:38] <pshr_> !cheese
[09:38] <tannersummers_> !PartitionManager
[09:38] <indus> spexor: try preferences> screen resolution
[09:38] <brennus> fccf: Yes! that's what I'm trying to do
[09:38] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: What exactly happens when you try to create a partition out of the unallocated space?
[09:38] <spexor> you mean preferences>display?
[09:38] <indus> spexor: ya
[09:38] <spexor> because that just lets me move them around. not designate main display
[09:38] <fccf> brennus: i'd go to google and search for ffmpeg rotate
[09:39] <tannersummers_> I can create a partition no problem but none on either windows or ubuntu will allow me to add it to a partiton to increase size, i think it might be cuase they used?
[09:39] <indus> spexor: you have any ATI console?
[09:39] <spexor> ati console?
[09:39] <indus> tannersummers_: some ati config tool
[09:39] <khadafi> help me please?
[09:39] <indus> tannersummers_: i dont think you can add a partition to an existing partition
[09:40] <indus> tannersummers_: it doesnt make sense as that partition could be ext3 so how can u add it to some other formatted partition
[09:40] <fccf> tannersummers_: you could resize another partition if the partition is next to the unallocated space
[09:40] <tannersummers_> no
[09:41] <tannersummers_> next to it?
[09:41] <tannersummers_> then how cna i move it? lol
[09:41] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: That is not the proper way to increase the size of an existing partition. What you need to do is, delete the empty partitions you have created so that you have unallocated space once more, and then you need to use the appropriate option in your partition manager to increase the size of the existing partition.
[09:41] <fccf> tannersummers_: above it or below it
[09:41] <indus> tannersummers_: tiyowan:yeah
[09:41] <Gamarok__> hi whats the support channel for ubuntu malaysia
[09:41] <Gamarok__> hi whats the support channel for ubuntu malaysia
[09:42] <tiyowan> !malay
[09:42] <tiyowan> Hmmm.
[09:42] <tannersummers_> tiyowan ffcf indus no, I have 32gb unallocated space (no partition no format) and I cant added the free space to any partition to increase it, only creat a new one
[09:42] <Flannel> !my | Gamarok__
[09:42] <tiyowan> Thanks, Flannel.
[09:43] <ninjafury> hi, I'm running jaunty 64 on my laptop. I have an ICH9M sound card, and volume is set at max but no where near as loud as vista. Can anyone help?
[09:43] <flintwingel> is the list of ! responses documented anywhere?
[09:43] <magentar> ninjafury, try alsamixer -c0
[09:44] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: Check the documentation of the partition manager in order to find out the correct steps.
[09:44] <indus> tannersummers_: you need to edit your existing partition to increase its size/ partitioner will use whatever free space is needed for new size
[09:44] <guntbert> !bot | flintwingel
[09:44] <Gamarok__> !malaysia
[09:44] <fccf> Gamarok__: close as you are going to get is #ubuntu-sg - singapore
[09:45] <Gamarok__> ok fccf thanks
[09:45] <flintwingel> guntbert: thanks
[09:45] <Flannel> fccf, Gamarok__: or #ubuntu-my
[09:45] <gartral> what screensaver setups allow configurations of the screensaver?
[09:45] <Gamarok__> cheers flannel
[09:45] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: If it's a GUI-based partition manager, generally what you have to do is -select- the partition you want to resize, and then look for the resize option.
[09:45] <tannersummers_> tiyowan  indus thats the thing tho, 2 partition managers on ubuntu and the one that came with windows vista i right click on my windows partition or my ubuntu partition on either of the three but the increase/resize option is shaded in
[09:45] <guntbert> flintwingel: have fun :)
[09:46] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: Are you using ubuntu right now?
[09:46] <ninjafury> magentar, I maxed all the output levels, and it did help a little. Vista is still way louder though. Anywhere else I should look?
[09:46] <fccf> tannersummers_: the win partition manager will not see the ubuntu or anything after it
[09:46] <bullgard4> What does mean the entry 'closed' in /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/sub0/status?
[09:47] <indus> tannersummers_: use a live cd to partition /its easier i feel .you cannot edit partitions which aare alreadyy mounted
[09:47] <magentar> ninjafury, not really no.. maybe check if there's other users who have the same problem with their soundcard
[09:47] <tannersummers_> tiyowan yes and fccf either way it wont let me increase the size of the windows partiton while log into windows, i think i need to do it before pc boots up on a cd or something
[09:47] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: What indus said. Do your partitioning off a live CD.
[09:47] <gartral> what screensaver setups allow configurations of the screensaver?
[09:47] <tannersummers_> how do i go among doing that?
[09:48] <fccf> tannersummers_: boot from ubuntu live cd
[09:48] <indus> tannersummers_: i assume you have an ubuntu live cd
[09:48] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: Pop in an Ubuntu Live CD, boot off the CD, and then open up the partitioning tool ... gparted I think, and do it from there.
[09:48] <tannersummers_> yes i do
[09:48] <tannersummers_> im new at ubuntu so how do i open up gparted
[09:48] <khadafi> hello
[09:48] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: Don't mix Windows-based partition tools with Linux ones.
[09:49] <khadafi> i have a problem with my ubuntu
[09:49] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: It's in System -> Administration I believe.
[09:49] <fccf> tannersummers_: System>Administration>Partition Manager
[09:49] <indus> tannersummers_: when the system boots into live cd environment go to system>administration>partition manager( or something like taht)
[09:49] <fccf> !ask | khadafi
[09:50] <tannersummers_> wait, so run ubuntu off cd and do it? or run program while cd is in?
[09:50] <Tileen> hy
[09:50] <fccf> tannersummers_: both
[09:50] <indus> fccf: heh
[09:51] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: Run Ubuntu off the CD.
[09:51] <Tileen> i need a invite mail for torrentleech.org
[09:51] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: And use the Partition Manager which is in the Ubuntu that is running from the Live CD.
[09:51] <Tileen> =)
[09:51] <tannersummers_> ok guys brb i hope this works
[09:51] <khadafi> if i install a new package i am get some error please check :http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m41e2418a
[09:51] <indus> tannersummers_: okies
[09:51] <tiyowan> !off-topic | Tileen
[09:51] <khadafi> ubottu : ok
[09:52] <Roswell> u are bot..
[09:52] <yokobr> Does anybody have installed Enveria on ubuntu? i can't install it on jaunty
[09:52] <fccf> Roswell: there are several bots in this room to keep things in check
[09:53] <gartral> what screensaver setups allow configurations of the screensaver?
[09:56] <Benalex> I installed Jaunty and it is always running in low graphics mode on Dell Optiplex 755 desktop win Intel Q35 graphics chipset, and it was the same with Intrepid, I thought it will be fixed, but it didn't, any ideas?
[09:56] <Benalex> with* Intel Q35
[10:00] <yokobr> please, could anyone help me to install enveria on ubuntu jaunty?
[10:01] <fccf> yokobr:what is your native language?
[10:03] <tannersummers> =[
[10:03] <tannersummers> grr this sucks
[10:03] <tiyowan> tannersummers: What happened?
[10:04] <indus> tannersummers: yeah what happened
[10:04] <fccf> tannersummers: >>????
[10:04] <tannersummers> tiyowan im running off cd now, i can increase size of partiton but only the one next to the empty space, and unlucky for me the swap partition is next to it and wont let me chage that one at all
[10:04] <indus> tannersummers: just delete swap and create new swap later
[10:04] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Yeah. You need to have unallocated space next to the partition you want to resize.
[10:05] <yokobr> fccf, PT-BR
[10:05] <tannersummers> how do i delete and create one later?
[10:05] <indus> tannersummers: select partition and delete :)
[10:05] <tiyowan> tannersummers: What indus said. Just delete it using partition manager.
[10:05] <tannersummers> wont it jack up my ubuntu partition
[10:05] <G_A_C> if you're using GParted or similar, just delete it, do your partition resize, then create a new one in GParted afterwards before runnign "mkswap /dev/sdxx"?
[10:06] <indus> tannersummers: well do you have data on those partitions?
[10:06] <fccf> tannersummers: unmount the swap delete it ... then resize other partition leaving space for a swap... then add swap back ... will not hurt ubuntu partition
[10:06] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Deleting your swap partition won't affect your other partitions.
[10:06] <tannersummers> ill give it a try :S
[10:06] <yokobr> fccf, brazilian portuguese
[10:06] <tiyowan> tannersummers: And try to chill out. Partitioning needs a calm frame of mind. :)
[10:06] <indus> tannersummers: ya what tiyowan said
[10:06] <tannersummers> i have a bad habit of breaking crap lol
[10:07] <fccf> yokobr: try asking in #ubuntu-br
[10:07] <indus> tannersummers: just remember to leave enough space for swap then create new swap in that space
[10:07] <flintwingel> tannersummers: backups are you friend :)
[10:07] <tannersummers> i got school in 4 hours, right now not much of a time to backup over 100 gb on windows and my whole ubuntu partition lol
[10:08] <tannersummers> so how is everyone doing?
[10:09] <fccf> tannersummers: idle chat is reserved for #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:09] <indus> tiyowan: btw, resizing a partition destroys data on it no?
[10:09] <tannersummers> hmm so many channels
[10:10] <stpr> I'm looking for an alternative to the Mycar-monitor for ubuntu. Does anyone knows something?
[10:10] <Benalex> I installed Jaunty and it is always running in low graphics mode on Dell Optiplex 755 desktop with Intel Q35 graphics chipset, and it was the same with Intrepid, I thought it will be fixed, but it didn't, any ideas?
[10:10] <indus> !intel
[10:10] <tiyowan> indus: I don't think so.
[10:10] <tiyowan> indus: Depends on which tool you're using.
[10:10] <indus> tiyowan: but the one with the live cd doesnt ?
[10:11] <indus> i dont remember resizing  a partition with data on it
[10:11] <indus> nvm
[10:11] <yokobr> fccf, i've tryied... and no one knows the answer..
[10:12] <Benalex> indus ty :)
[10:12] <yokobr> well, everybody is sleeping ehhe
[10:12] <tiyowan> indus: Well, Ubuntu used parted; I don't think it has any trouble resizing ext2-3 partitions.
[10:12] <indus> Benalex: you are most welcome :)
[10:12] <fccf> yokobr: your other option is serarching ubuntuforums
[10:12] <indus> tiyowan: okk
[10:12] <tiyowan> indus: I don't use parted to resize Windows partitions.
[10:13] <tiyowan> indus: Just for safety. It's better to use Win-tools with Windows partitions, and linux tools for linux partitions.
[10:13] <indus> tiyowan: no i mean ubuntu only didnt mean windows partitions
[10:13] <indus> tiyowan: i always did fresh partitions for ubuntu , dont remember altering a partition to a new size
[10:14] <tiyowan> indus: It isn't a problem - I've resized the partition my home directory resided on before using parted.
[10:14] <Name141> if I make a live USB stick, will I be able to update it and it know the changes?
[10:14] <fccf> tannersummers: another option is to use your unallocated space as fat32 which will be readable from both win and ubuntu
[10:14] <indus> tiyowan: ok cool thanks
[10:14] <Name141> IE: security updates, video drivers, so on ?
[10:14] <tannersummers> fccf im trying to make my windows bigger but if someone can help me ill show a ss
[10:14] <tiyowan> indus: np
[10:15] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Are you trying to resize your Windows partition?
[10:15] <tannersummers> im trying to give it the free space
[10:15] <Name141> or should I figure out how to install it directly to the flash drive ?
[10:15] <Name141> instead of the LIVE version ?
[10:15] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Oh okay. In that case, just get the free space next to the Windows partition, and use any Windows-based tool to do what you need.
[10:16] <kholerabbi2> is it me, or if Juanty's Firefox missing "Set as image as wallpaper"???
[10:16] <tannersummers> tiyowan fccf looky http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/Tanner2007/Screenshot-1.png
[10:17] <amdfan> hi guys does ubuntu 9.04 have support for sse4 and 3dnow mx instruction sets ( i want to use it in a rendering farm)
[10:17] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Ehehehe.   Select /dev/sda4, and shrink it. That should squeeze all that unallocated space out of the extended partition.
[10:19] <tannersummers> it does but does it on other side of windows partition lol
[10:19] <Jasa> If someone would really care about the l.t.s they would be still running those older versions for couple years now still.
[10:20] <fccf> tannersummers:  after looking at ss ... what tiyowan said but push the partition to the end instead of the beginning
[10:20] <tiyowan> tannersummers: That's all right. Right now we need to get it outside the extended partition first.
[10:20] <tannersummers> idk how i tryed
[10:20] <yokobr> fccf, its an early development project... not even google has much answers for it..
[10:20] <Jasa> But as noticed most people only want the newest software cause of additional features and support that wasn't before.
[10:20] <Flannel> Jasa: They are.
[10:20] <fccf> yokobr: sorry beyond my skillz
[10:21] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Just shrink the /dev/sda4, take a screenshot and throw us the link. We'll guide you through the next part of it. Remember to leave some unallocated space in there for the swap partition.
[10:21] <stpr> I'm looking for an alternative to the Mycar-monitor for ubuntu. Does anyone knows something?
[10:21] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Actually, don't touch /dev/sda6, just shrink /dev/sda4.
[10:22] <fccf> tannersummers: shrink /dev/sda4 with the blank space at the beginning
[10:22] <Jasa> Someone planning on dual booting ?
[10:22] <tannersummers> wont let me shrink it
[10:22] <Jasa> tanner i would assume then. =)
[10:23] <tiyowan> tannersummers: What? It doesn't let you resize /dev/sda4?
[10:23] <Jasa> tanner, if you have windows installed there and won't allow you to shrink do a defrag on hd.
[10:23] <tannersummers> lol
[10:23] <indus> tannersummers: you need a shrink :P
[10:24] <tannersummers> just great
[10:24] <tiyowan> Jasa: His unallocated space is inside his extended partition. Windows can't see it - defragging won't make a difference atm.
[10:24] <Rigongia> Jasa : my system is dual booting right now :)
[10:24] <tannersummers> gave space to sda5 and says all fo its used up so i cant shrink it
[10:24] <Jasa> I see.
[10:25] <fccf> tannersummers: delete linux-swap... add deleted space to /dev/sda5... shrink /dev/sda5 leaving empty space at beginning... then shrink /dev/sda4
[10:25] <tannersummers> i did do that
[10:25] <tannersummers> but now sda5
[10:25] <tannersummers> says 48 gb being used
[10:25] <tannersummers> so only let me shirnk it 1 gb
[10:25] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Can you put up a screenshot, please?
[10:25] <tannersummers> which idk how it got used it up 14 gb
[10:25] <AdvoWork> Hi there. on one of our servers we always ssh to it, using root, and perform any tasks etc. I know this is bad practice, so im going to create a series of users. whats the best way to go about this? 2 users will need admin type privalages without being able to destroy things?
[10:26] <tannersummers> ok give me sec
[10:27] <fccf> AdvoWork: use adduser to add users then add them to sudoers list in /etc/
[10:29] <fccf> AdvoWork: admin privalages allow destruct -- they say "you can't break linux if you are not root"
[10:31] <rj_d> So We cant embed the video in VLC in 9.04 rt??
[10:32] <tannersummers> just fking great
[10:32] <fccf> tannersummers: whats up?
[10:33] <tannersummers> compaw recoveyr partition got deleted
[10:33] <tannersummers> idk how i never clicked on it
[10:33] <fccf> tannersummers:  lets see a ss
[10:34] <tannersummers> k one sec
[10:34] <Talon^> i downloaded ubuntu 9, installed it on my laptop which is a toshiba satellite 1805-s204, and im stuck in 800x600.. theres no choice for 1024x768 which is its native resolution, so my screen isnt 100% used.. can someone help me?
[10:34] <omid8bimo> hi, i have an old server which ubuntu 7.10 is installed
[10:34] <omid8bimo> today i tried to install mysql
[10:35] <fccf> Talon^:  Please post lspci outupt to a pastebin
[10:35] <Myrtti> !gutsy | omid8bimo
[10:35] <Talon^> in a terminal?
[10:35] <tannersummers> fccf : as u can see somehow my ubuntu partition which was using only 14 gb somehow jumped to using 48 gb not allowing me to shrink it http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/Tanner2007/Screenshot-2.png
[10:35] <indus> !paste > Talon^
[10:35] <omid8bimo> but i can get anything. it says file did't found
[10:35] <tiyowan_> tannersummers: Sorry, I lagged out. What happened?
[10:36] <khadafi> hi, i am install a new package in ubuntu 8.10 but i have get some error : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m41e2418a
[10:36] <Talon^> http://pastebin.com/d625ec947
[10:36] <tannersummers> tiyowan someone my parttion is using up all my space so i cant shrink
[10:36] <tannersummers> *somehow
[10:36] <tiyowan_> tannersummers: Okay calm down. Is the swap partition still there?
[10:37] <golempje> can someone tell me: is there a fix for the TV-out to philips tv (oversized picture) yet?   (ubuntu 9)
[10:37] <tannersummers> no
[10:37] <Talon^> fccf, did you see my pastebin entry?
[10:37] <khadafi> hello
[10:37] <tiyowan_> tannersummers: Okay. And you still can't resize the extended partition?
[10:38] <tannersummers> no my ubuntu partiton was using 14gb now its using 48gb so i cant shrink so how the hell did that hapepn
[10:39] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Put up a pic and I'll take a look.
[10:39] <tannersummers> i did look up right before u said u lagged out
[10:39] <Talon^> fccf, i did the lspci and sent it to a pastebin: http://pastebin.com/d625ec947 now what?
[10:40] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Nah I don't see it. Okay. Do this. Select /dev/sda5 (your ubuntu partition) and shrink it.
[10:40] <fccf> Talon^:  Your video card is unsupported by the kernel - you may find relevant info in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=806835&highlight=Trident+XpiA1
[10:41] <fafaz> Hi all.. I have a problem with broken packages. can't fix it :(
[10:41] <tannersummers> tiyowan I cant, it was only using up 14gb out of 15 gb so i gave it space to get closer to my partition then now it has aobut 5o gb and saying ITS USING like 49 gb, so I can only shrink aobut 1 gb which how the hgell did the space go up?
[10:41] <tiyowan> tannersummers: wth.
[10:41] <tannersummers> thats what i said
[10:42] <tannersummers> i may have to delete all the work i did on my ubuntu partiton and reinstall it =[
[10:42] <fafaz> anybody can help?
[10:42] <Myrtti> omid8bimo: did you check the information ubottu gave you?
[10:42] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Try rebooting off the live cd.
[10:42] <Myrtti> fafaz: just ask
[10:42] <Name141> !nvidia
[10:42] <tannersummers> ok brb guys
[10:42] <millertime> hi I just upgraded to jaunty with a fresh install everything works except skype, any ideas?
[10:42] <AdvoWork> fccf, what do you mean, admin is no good either?
[10:43] <fafaz> broken dependency package.. what should I do to fix it? I can't even update my system. I can't Add/Remove programs
[10:43] <indus> millertime: what do u mean skype doenst work
[10:43] <Fzang> does nautilus control my default applications or is that done by some other part of the system?
[10:44] <fccf> AdvoWork: giving sudo priv to user allows them to do anything a root user could do .. except it requires them to verify their pw
[10:44] <omid8bimo> Myrtti: yeah :(
[10:44] <millertime> indus: I get the error message "audio playback does not work" when I try to make a call
[10:44] <fafaz> the broken packages are: openoffice.org-style-human and openoffice.org-writer
[10:45] <geezer> Hello everyone~
[10:45] <AdvoWork> fccf, whats the best thing to do then?
[10:45] <khadafi> help me please,http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m41e2418a if i am try install a new package
[10:46] <indus> fafaz: in terminal type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:46] <fccf> AdvoWork: depends on what you need those users to do
[10:46] <indus> millertime: go to skype preferences audio > set audio device to pulse
[10:46] <geezer> Does anyone know if the .deb for Cinepaint is safe to install on Ubuntu 9.04 (ext4) ?? .... It's not in the repos and the cinepaint site mentioned some problem with ubuntu.
[10:46] <indus> millertime: audio output i mean
[10:47] <fafaz> I'm getting an error when trying to remove them using synaptic package manager. the error is: Package is in a very ban inconsistent state
[10:48] <Lol> lol
[10:48] <rikki_max> fafaz: try in terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:48] <Guest97718> ger ?
[10:49] <tannersummers> no luck
[10:49] <tannersummers> says all space is used up
[10:49] <fccf> tannersummers: try mounting ubu drive then unmounting it then restart gparted
[10:49] <tiyowan> tannersummers: What happened?
[10:50] <yokobr> hey guys, i cant find "sqlite-dev" and "mysql-dev" on apt =/
[10:50] <tannersummers> tiyowan still says its using up 48 gb of space so i cant shrink
[10:50] <clocKwize> hey
[10:50] <tannersummers> brb agian
[10:50] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Okay this is weird.
[10:50] <Talon^> fccf, i did what that site said, and i still have no bigger resolutions
[10:50] <Talon^> do i need to restart x?|
[10:50] <fccf> Talon^: yes
[10:51] <Talon^> ok
[10:51] <lstarnes> yokobr: try libsqlite-dev or libsqlite3-dev
[10:51] <fccf> AdvoWork: see my pm
[10:52] <millertime> indus: thank you
[10:52] <lstarnes> yokobr: also libmysqlclient-dev
[10:52] <indus> millertime: is it working
[10:52] <millertime> yeah
[10:52] <indus> cool
[10:52] <indus> :)()()
[10:52] <yokobr> lstarnes, its the same thing?
[10:52] <fafaz> no luck :(
[10:52] <lstarnes> yokobr: what is?
[10:52] <indus> fafaz: did you try that command i gave you in terminal
[10:53] <maxagaz_> what does 'rc' mean before a package when running apt-cache search ?
[10:53] <yokobr> well, not even libsqlite-dev
[10:53] <indus> fafaz: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:53] <fafaz> yes
[10:53] <indus> fafaz: what message did u get
[10:53] <Talon^> fccf, i restarted.. still no larger modes
[10:53] <fafaz> in terminal: some index files failed to download ....
[10:54] <fccf> Talon^: Reccommend further reading on ubuntuforums
[10:54] <yokobr> lstarnes, i've found libsqlite3-dev... but i still need mysql-devel
[10:54] <tannersummers> back'
[10:54] <Talon^> theres nothing more on that page
[10:54] <fccf> tannersummers: ok and
[10:54] <tannersummers> nothing changed
[10:54] <linny> on a default install of ubuntu 9.04 with an ati rv630 chip what driver will be in use on bootup also anyone got any ideas why my xorg.conf is blank ?
[10:54] <tannersummers> i migth jsut deleted my whole partition and work a whole day pputting it all back :(
[10:54] <fccf> tannersummers: run a check on the ubu partition
[10:55] <indus> fafaz: cat /etc/apt/sources.list paste it using pastebin
[10:55] <tannersummers> how? i mean where did over 30 gb just come out of no where being used up
[10:55] <indus> !paste > fafaz
[10:55] <Talon^> dang, i guess im going to haveto install open-suse again to get my screen to fill out :/
[10:55] <erUSUL> linny: probably the free radeon driver. newest xorg releases do not need an xorg and figure out what they need at runtime. they abey it if present
[10:55] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Okay, so let me get this straight.
[10:55] <fafaz> in Add/Remove: Failed to check for installed and available application. and it suggest sudo apt-get install -f
[10:55] <fccf> tannersummers:  right click on ubu partition ... check
[10:55] <yokobr> lstarnes, i'm trying to compile Envira, but now i'm getting "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient" error, because i dont have "mysql-dev"
[10:55] <Vonoff> morning
[10:55] <tiyowan> tannersummers: /dev/sda1 is 180 gigs right?
[10:56] <lstarnes> yokobr: you probably want libmysqlclient15-dev or similar
[10:56] <linny> erUSUL: any ideas how to setup a dual head on the open driver the fglrx is giving me headaches
[10:56] <rikki_max> anyone know of bugs in libiptcdata0 package?
[10:56] <tannersummers> ubuntu partiton had 15 gb and was ONLY 14gb used up, i deleted swap and added the space to ubuntu partiton so i can move it up, but now that 40 gb i added to ubuntu parttion is being used up by the partition, i mean how is that possible
[10:56] <bleepbleep> guys
[10:56] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Then you've got /dev/sda4 (extended) inside of which is /dev/sda5 using 40 gig
[10:56] <Vonoff> Does anyone have an idea what ubuntu uses to get previews of all the different image types in nautilus? (i'm looking for what ubuntu uses to get .dds files previewed in nautilus)
[10:57] <bleepbleep> my sound doesn't work....it only works with headphones plugged in
[10:57] <bleepbleep> what is i to di
[10:57] <bleepbleep> to do
[10:57] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Okay and you can't resize sda4 right?
[10:57] <tannersummers> that and sda5
[10:57] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Okay.
[10:57] <tannersummers> since somehow 30 gb just came out of no where and is beiung used up
[10:57] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Yeah.
[10:58] <ddanat> hey guys. got a question. Alsa thinks it's working (looks normal, acts normal, etc.) however I get completely no sound. I dunno if microphone indeed works, can't test that. But alsa is "acting" like it works, but I get no sound output whatever.
[10:58] <tiyowan> tannersummers: open up a terminal and type this: umount /dev/sda5, then try.
[10:58] <yokobr> lstarnes, i'll try it now
[10:58] <fccf> tannersummers:  boot into your ubuntu system.. then shutdown..restart and boot into live disk
[10:58] <erUSUL> !xinerama | linny
[10:58] <fafaz> !paste
[10:58] <fccf> tannersummers:  that should reset the drive
[10:58] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Actually, yeah. Do what fccf said. Take out the CD, restart and boot into the Ubuntu that's installed on your hard disk.
[10:59] <tannersummers> i just did that
[10:59] <tannersummers> and same crap
[10:59] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Okay, here's something else you can do.
[10:59] <tannersummers> omg
[10:59] <fafaz> pastebin
[10:59] <tannersummers> omg finally
[10:59] <ddanat> anybody have an idea about my alsa problem?
[11:00] <tannersummers> who said to use "check"
[11:00] <tannersummers> ?
[11:00] <linny> will sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server create a teplate xorg.conf for me to mess around with or will it stay blank
[11:00] <clocKwize> guys, i want to get rid of the gnome-panels panel at the top of my screen (i'm using awn with lots of applets etc instead) but i can't find any way to get rid of it? even if i go as far as killing the process, it pops right back up :)
[11:00] <fafaz> indus: how to paste ?
[11:00] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Ehehehe.
[11:00] <tannersummers> ok im take ss
[11:00] <tiyowan> tannersummers: fsck fixed it huh?
[11:00] <tannersummers> u guys tell me what to do from there hold on
[11:00] <shadeslayer> clocKwize: kpid <pid>
[11:00] <tannersummers> the right click on sda5 or we/e and click check worked
[11:01] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Okay. Tell us what /sda4, /sda5 looks like right now.
[11:01] <clocKwize> shadeslayer: will i have to do that every time i load?
[11:01] <clocKwize> can't i just turn it off somewhere
[11:01] <tannersummers> fccf
[11:01] <Talon^> fccf, thanks for the help, but im going back to suse. it defaulted in 1024x768
[11:01] <tannersummers> god, school in 3 hours
[11:01] <shadeslayer> clocKwize: i dont think you can turn it off :)
[11:02] <fccf> tannersummers:  i am here
[11:02] <maxagaz_> what does 'rc' and 'ii' mean before a package when running dpkg -l ?
[11:02] <tannersummers> the check on parttion thing worked
[11:02] <clocKwize> shadeslayer: thats sucky..
[11:02] <indus> fafaz: just copy output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin.ubuntu.com
[11:02] <fafaz> indus: I did
[11:02] <tannersummers> now fccf and tiyowan what do i do now http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/Tanner2007/Temp/Screenshot-1.png
[11:02] <indus> paste the link here
[11:02] <shadeslayer> clocKwize: i kinda keep the panel and AWN :)
[11:02] <fafaz> indus: I did
[11:03] <indus> where
[11:03] <Severian> maxagaz_  rc would be release candidate
[11:03] <indus> can u paste it again sorry i was away
[11:03] <fafaz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/185527/
[11:03] <fafaz> indus: you see it?
[11:03] <indus> yah
[11:04] <fccf> tannersummers: when you shrink drag the data all the way to the right so the empty space is at the beginning of the partition
[11:04] <tannersummers> ok
[11:04] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Shrink /dev/sda5.
[11:04] <indus> fafaz: what does sudo apt-get update give u
[11:04] <zortec> Hi guys, still have not been able to install ubuntu.  It drops me to a busybox.  Can anyone help?
[11:04] <shadeslayer> clocKwize: just checking it on the forums....
[11:04] <tiyowan> tannersummers: And drag from the left of sda5, so that you get unallocated space at the beginning - before sda5.
[11:04] <tannersummers> they should make it so u can just click and move it around huh
[11:05] <fccf> zortec: you may have a bad copy
[11:05] <nixedreport> @zortec: Try using vesa mode.
[11:05] <shadeslayer> clocKwize: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405721
[11:05] <fccf> tannersummers: would be nice
[11:05] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Be thankful we're still not using fdisk. ;)
[11:05] <zortec> fccf: I have tried burning the ISO three times.  Also tried safe graphics and the bugfix pci=nomsi and I can't get the installer to load.
[11:05] <zortec> It's so frustrating...
[11:06] <nixedreport> @zortec: try turning acpi off.
[11:06] <tannersummers> whats fdisk anyways tiyowan?
[11:06] <zortec> I tried that to in the modes.  I didn't turn acpi off in the bios.
[11:06] <AndroidData> is this the right place to ask about jailkit?
[11:06] <nixedreport> Not the BIOS.
[11:06] <nixedreport> Just the options.
[11:06] <fafaz> indus: I have 2 broken packages. openoffice.org-writer and openoffice.org-human-style. sudo apt-get update Failed to fetch ...
[11:07] <nixedreport> And disable APIC as well.
[11:07] <fccf> tannersummers: fdisk is a partition editor in win and linux .... both commandline
[11:07] <tannersummers> yikes....
[11:07] <tiyowan> tannersummers: It's a command-line partition editor.
[11:07]  * tannersummers still waits
[11:07] <fccf> tannersummers: it takes along time to resize
[11:07] <zortec> nixedreport: I have turned on safe graphics and off apci, but when I click on "Install Ubuntu" I get a busybox so I don't know if I have a bad CD or what is going on.
[11:08] <indus> fafaz: go to synaptic and go to edit/fix broken packages
[11:08] <shadeslayer> zortec: md5 check maybe
[11:08] <AndroidData> I'm using jailkit in order to create a secure environment. The 'root' user spawns a process which changes user and chroots to the jail. However, the home directory doesn't change -- typing in 'set' tells me that HOME = /root instead of /home/myUser
[11:09] <fafaz> indus: I did.. I'm getting error: Package in very bad inconsistent state
[11:09] <tannersummers> tiyowan and fccf
[11:09] <indus> fafaz: ok wait a min
[11:09] <fccf> AndroidData: this is the ubuntu support channel -- not the android support channel
[11:10] <zortec> shadeslayer: I checked the md5 hash, can't check the integrity of the CD because it takes me to a busybox again
[11:10] <fccf> tannersummers: what's up?
[11:10] <bullgard4> What does mean the entry 'closed' in /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/sub0/status?
[11:10] <tiyowan> tannersummers: ?
[11:10] <zortec> I just want to get the installer loaded to a point where I can install ubuntu.
[11:10] <tannersummers> fccf and tiyowan if this does work then THANK U GUYS SO FKING MUCH =]
[11:10] <zortec> Been trying to get ubuntu installed all day.
[11:10] <shadeslayer> zortec: how about checking from your native OS??
[11:10] <tannersummers> id be screwed right now lol
[11:10] <nixedreport> @zortec: Did you get the other messages I sent you?
[11:11] <fccf> tannersummers: tell me about it ... I have been there, thats why I help where I can
[11:11] <zortec> nixedreport: I just got them :)
[11:11] <AndroidData> fccf: well, the OS is Ubuntu... :p
[11:11] <indus> fafaz: try this sudo dpkg install -f openoffice-writer
[11:11] <fccf> AndroidData: On the G1
[11:11] <tiyowan> tannersummers: No worries - I can understand your frustration. Partitioning can be nightmarish.
[11:11] <tannersummers> guys i wonder about this
[11:11] <clocKwize> shadeslayer: ah, nice one.. thanks
[11:12] <clocKwize> i looked on forum but didn't raelly know what to search for
[11:12] <indus> fafaz: oops wrrong command
[11:12] <shadeslayer> clocKwize: np
[11:12] <tannersummers> when u do apt-get install <program name>
[11:12] <tannersummers> where r u getting it from?
[11:12] <tannersummers> is there like a master server were all linux programs are on?
[11:12] <indus> fafaz: try this sudo apt-get install -f openoffice-writer
[11:12] <fccf> tannersummers:  the same place synaptic gets it from... repos usually us.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <shadeslayer> tannersummers: yes..they are called repos
[11:13] <tiyowan> tannersummers: From the repositories. Yeah, each distribution of linux has their own servers, where they store the repositories of all the programs.
[11:13] <tannersummers> nice...
[11:13] <shadeslayer> !repo | tannersummers
[11:14] <fccf> AndroidData: if you are logged in as root it will show ~/ as /root ... if you are logged in as user  ~/ is /home/user
[11:14] <fafaz> indus: dpkg: need an action option
[11:14] <indus> wait
[11:14] <indus> fafaz: 1 min
[11:15] <indus> fafaz: try this sudo apt-get install -f openoffice-writer
[11:16] <indus> fafaz: if it doenst work , remove the package from synaptic using broken packages filter
[11:16] <fafaz> indus: it doesnt work. My problem is I can't remove the package from synaptic!!
[11:17] <indus> ok
[11:17] <AndroidData> fccf: but if PAM is somehow unavailable, it won't know which home directory I have!
[11:17] <fafaz> indus: I'm stuck with this problem from weeks
[11:17] <Fzang> Can anyone help me? I can't install from source. It just won't let me??
[11:17] <AndroidData> I got it
[11:17] <AndroidData> sort-of
[11:17] <indus> fafaz: can u give me the names of the packages again
[11:18] <fafaz> indus: openoffice.org-writer
[11:18] <indus> fafaz: in synaptic when u right click on that package what options do u get
[11:18] <fccf> AndroidData: my expierence with the android devel is that it is all sort-of
[11:18] <fafaz> indus: mark for removal and mark for completely remove
[11:19] <jolanka> hi all
[11:19] <indus> fafaz: try this sudo apt-get clean
[11:19] <jolanka> im using 9.04 and have a thinkpad z61p with a mobility firegl v5200 (Chipset: ATI M56 - Similar to Radeon X1600). im having problems installing the right video driver since i found out that new fglrx drivers no longer support my card, and also new xorg-servers dont support older fglrx drivers
[11:19] <fafaz> indus: and I've tries both with no luck
[11:19] <jolanka> what drivers should i use ?
[11:19] <jolanka> what should i do ? please help
[11:20] <fafaz> indus: ok I did
[11:20] <indus> fafaz: after that step , sudo apt-get update
[11:20] <tiyowan> jolanka: I'm not sure, but I think you need to use the open-source drivers.
[11:20] <janmejay> can't get irb on Ubuntu, have ruby1.8 installed
[11:20] <jolanka> tiyowan radeonhd ?
[11:20] <jolanka> tiyowan how do i install that ?
[11:20] <janmejay> does anyone know if its broken?
[11:20] <bin4ry> hi together
[11:21] <tiyowan> jolanka: Well - you can do it from System -> Administration I believe.
[11:21] <fccf> tannersummers: how we doin?
[11:21] <janmejay> is irb not available via package manager(ubuntu official repositories on hardy?
[11:22] <bin4ry> just upgraded vmware to a new version. Now it complains about missing header files. 'uname -a' revealed that i am using 2'.6.27-11-generic'. After looking for linux-headers in synaptic, i found the package linux-headers-generic. But this package installs header files for kernel <IP_ADDRESS>.15. Cant find haders for my version.
[11:23] <fafaz> indus: do you see anything wrong in my source.lis ?
[11:23] <indus> no
[11:24] <indus> fafaz: did u do a apt get update
[11:24] <Name141> Hello, my NIC 'twinkles' at the router (as I have complained before).  However, I just loaded up the live disk and noticed if I remove and then modprobe e1000e, eth0 will become avalable again.  (Until my router or modem resets).  Is there anyway to make a bug report?
[11:24] <Name141> or should I forget it?
[11:24] <tiyowan> jolanka: Yep version 1.2.4 of the radeonhd driver is included in Jaunty and it should work fine.
[11:24] <audigy7x> hi
[11:25] <fafaz> indus: yes.. it's Hit(ing) and Get(ing) and Ign
[11:25] <indus> fafaz: what?
[11:26] <fafaz> indus: yes I did update.. it's working
[11:26] <alejandro> can someone tell me why i have sound on everything  but my web browser?
[11:26] <indus> cool
[11:26] <indus> fafaz: problem solved then
[11:26] <Name141> if I restart the modem or the router, it will lose connection and stay lost
[11:26] <Name141> Then it will start blinking again at the router , and never get a connection
[11:26] <Name141> till I remove and then modprobe the e1000e module
[11:26] <tiyowan> alejandro: Does the flash plug-in work?
[11:26] <indus> fafaz: now sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:26] <fafaz> indus: it seems to be solved.. thank you very much
[11:26] <indus> fafaz: yeah i know :)
[11:26] <fafaz> indus: BUT wait
[11:27] <alejandro> tiyowan, i can watch youtube videos just no sound
[11:27] <indus> fafaz: ok tell me
[11:27] <AndroidData> what does the "su" command need in order to work (except a valid user and password)
[11:27] <alejandro> nor any videos regarding flash..web browser..
[11:27] <zortec> Where do you add boot options like "break=mount" on the live CD?
[11:27] <AndroidData> for me, I try to "su myUser" and it does nothing... I'm still root
[11:27] <indus> AndroidData: type exit at terminal
[11:28] <tiyowan> alejandro: Hmm, are you using 9.04?
[11:28] <alejandro> yes jaunty
[11:28] <fafaz> indus: Some index files failed to download, the have been ignored or old ones used instead. and also Failed to fetch some ..
[11:28] <indus> fafaz: thats all normal
[11:28] <indus> fafaz: do a sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:29] <koshari> Name141 its prolly just loading the wrong module for the card
[11:29] <indus> fafaz: some repositories are down probably
[11:29] <tiyowan> alejandro: One moment please.
[11:29] <fafaz>  indus: Unmet dependecy
[11:29] <indus> fafaz: for which package
[11:29] <alejandro> tiyowan: ok
[11:29]  * fccf desprately needs sleep ... I am going to bed ... Good luck all... I will be back in 6 hours for more slugging it out ... tannersummers if you still need help see me after class
[11:29] <tiyowan> alejandro: Are you trying to use a USB headset? Or have you got two sound cards in your system?
[11:29] <Name141> koshari: how? it's the same one
[11:29] <Name141> koshari: I tried e1000 , and it didn't work
[11:29] <fafaz> indus: all are regarding to openoffice
[11:30] <Name141> koshari: I removed e1000 and modprobed' e1000e again , and it came back alive
[11:30] <indus> fafaz: did u install open office from outside?
[11:30] <fafaz> no
[11:30] <Name141> koshari: I didn't have this nonsense in Hardy
[11:30] <alejandro> i am using SB Live! 24-bit External sound card, no usb headset just speakers
[11:30] <koshari> Name141 rebuild initramfs as the its prolly loading a different module in the bootstrap process
[11:30] <indus> fafaz: does open office work on ur ssystem
[11:30] <Name141> koshari: initwho
[11:30] <alejandro> my sound card is usb external
[11:30] <koshari> Name141 if thats the issue of course
[11:30] <indus> fafaz: now do a sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:31] <Name141> koshari: I did lsmod , and it showed e1000e
[11:31] <tiyowan> alejandro: How many devices do you see when you type "aplay -1" in the console?
[11:31] <koshari> Name141 i had a similar issue with a pc loading e100 in
[11:31] <fafaz> indus: no.. now I did sudo apt-get -f upgrade
[11:31]  * tannersummers still waits and looks at clock, and thinks should I still go to school? hmmm
[11:31] <Name141> koshari: Hardy used e1000e
[11:31] <Name141> koshari: So what broke between the LTS and now ?
[11:31] <indus> fafaz: now do a sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:32] <indus> fafaz: is it showing broken packages in system?
[11:32] <fafaz> indus: cancel the current operation?
[11:32] <fccf> tannersummers: Isn't this like school in so many ways
[11:32] <indus> fafaz: no let it finish
[11:32] <koshari> Name141 i wouldnt know iam just going of my experiance which sounds similar.
[11:32] <Kiyiko> so, i am trying to get custom refresh rate, but this is what my xorg.conf is: http://pastebin.com/m70c95924 ----i am unsure of what/how to do it
[11:32] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Take the day off.
[11:32] <alejandro> it says invalid option whey i type aplay -1 in console
[11:32] <indus> !patience
[11:32] <Name141> koshari: OK
[11:33] <fccf> alehandro: it is L not 1
[11:33] <tiyowan> alejandro: Ah my mistake, "aplay -l"
[11:33] <indus> damn
[11:33] <indus> patience is a virtue
[11:33] <tannersummers> tiyowan ya i migth asd well the type of school im in dont really care about that
[11:33] <alejandro> lol ok
[11:33] <tannersummers> half the class shwos up like once a month and nothing happens
[11:33] <fafaz> indus: I have to wait until the current operation finished then check if there is any broken
[11:33] <tannersummers> to them
[11:33] <indus> fafaz: yeah
[11:33] <fafaz> indus: it'll take 2 min :)
[11:33] <tannersummers> and i mean hell less then 2 weeks before school gets out
[11:34] <alejandro> tiyowan: may i PM you the results?
[11:34] <fccf> !paste | alejandro
[11:34] <koshari> Name141 time to time it appears initramfs changes the modules it loads, you can try rebuilding your initram see the first post here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=810125
[11:34] <tannersummers> !kubuntu
[11:34] <alejandro> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[11:34] <alejandro> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC883 Analog [ALC883 Analog]
[11:34] <alejandro>   Subdevices: 0/1
[11:34] <alejandro>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[11:34] <alejandro> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC883 Digital [ALC883 Digital]
[11:34] <FloodBot2> alejandro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:34] <alejandro>   Subdevices: 1/1
[11:35] <tiyowan> alejandro: alejandro: Use pastebin; that way, all of us can look at the problem.
[11:35] <tannersummers> !suse
[11:35] <tannersummers> u guys think SUSE is the best out of thsoe others? it looks like it to me
[11:35] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Depends really on what you want out of your distro.
[11:36] <fccf> tannersummers: owned by novell ... i like canonical
[11:36] <tannersummers> there a site that mianly tells ua bout each one?
[11:36] <fccf> tannersummers: linux.org
[11:36] <alejandro> sorry i am kinda new to this, how do i use pastebin?
[11:36] <indus> !pastebin
[11:36] <alejandro> !pastebin
[11:36] <indus> alejandro: just paste the url here
[11:37] <tiyowan> alejandro: You go to paste.ubuntu.com, paste your output -there- and give us the link here.
[11:37] <alejandro> oh ok
[11:37] <alejandro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/185555/
[11:38] <X-TaZ> Hello. I'm looking for the location of gpg keys for ppa to download
[11:39] <tannersummers> fccf tiyowan
[11:39] <tannersummers> http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/Tanner2007/Screenshot-3.png now wat
[11:39] <alejandro> tiyowan: did you receive it/
[11:40] <tiyowan> alejandro: That I did.
[11:40] <alejandro> ok
[11:40] <GhostWolf76> hey all don't know if im in the right chan.. prob not but im looking for the folder where themes/styles are located in kubuntu
[11:41] <indus> fafaz: hello?
[11:41] <fafaz> indus: yes
[11:41] <fiasco> I need to find my machine on a LAN but I don't know the IP, I know what services run on (ports that are open), whats the fastest way to scan 192.168.2.[0-255] for the specific ports that will define my machine?
[11:41] <Bob1> hello
[11:41] <tiyowan> alejandro: Okay, I'm not certain about this, but let's try this.
[11:41] <indus> fafaz: so whats the status
[11:41] <alejandro> k
[11:41] <tiyowan> alejandro: I want you to go into Add/Remove programs, and install the PulseAudio Device Chooser utility
[11:42] <Bob1> i am running a program through WINE and the program keeps losing its internet connection every 5 seconds then reganing it then losing it how do i fix this
[11:42] <grub_booter_> fiasco: might be a bit incomplete, but you can try: cat /proc/net/arp
[11:42] <tannersummers> i saw programs for virse scanners and firewalls, does ubutnu even need those?
[11:43] <Myrtti> carlosssss: do you need help?
[11:43] <alejandro> ok installed
[11:43] <fiasco> grub_booter_: this is over a vpn ;)
[11:43] <jrib> tannersummers: ubuntu doesn't, the user might.  It depends
[11:43] <Bob1> i am running a program through WINE and the program keeps losing its internet connection every 5 seconds then reganing it then losing it how do i fix this
[11:43] <fiasco> grub_booter_: plus there are 255 machines to filter through
[11:43] <tiyowan> alejandro: Okay, now you need to resize your sda4 partition. Drag it from the left so that you get space before the sda4 partition. Leave how much you need for your swap partition.
[11:43] <fafaz> indus: the problem is with the package openoffice.org-writer .. package in a very bad inconsistent state. you should reinstall it before attempt to remove. also, error code(1) /usr/sbin/dpkg
[11:43] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Okay, now you need to resize your sda4 partition. Drag it from the left so that you get space before the sda4 partition. Leave how much you need for your swap partition.
[11:43] <GhostWolf76> erm can someone tell me what the off-topic chan is?? don't know if its just plain off-topic or not
[11:43] <jrib> !ot | GhostWolf76
[11:44] <tiyowan> alejandro: Yikes. Ok.
[11:44] <alejandro> tiyowan: are you sure?
[11:44] <GhostWolf76> thanks jrib
[11:44] <alejandro> lol
[11:44] <indus> fafaz: sudo aptitude reinstall openoffice.org-writer
[11:44] <zortec> It doesn't look as though my graphics card is supported.  I added break=mount to the boot line and I get a yellow screen.  It is just blank. :(
[11:44] <fafaz> indus: but I don't have the option "Mark for reinstall" for openoffice.org-writer
[11:44] <zortec> I really want to install ubuntu too.
[11:44] <alejandro> tiyowan: so you think it will work now..
[11:44] <poq09> hi all, how can I check which dns server my computer is currently using? I updated the dns settings for my wireless connection in network manager but I want to be sure thy have taken effect
[11:44] <tiyowan> alejandro: Sorry about that. Right. Run it from Applications -> Sound and Video. Then left-click on its icon in the system tray and select Volume Control, please.
[11:45] <G_A_C> poq09, "nslookup"
[11:45] <fafaz> indus: executing your command
[11:45] <G_A_C> when you do a query, it'll tell you which server was used
[11:45] <grub_booter_> fiasco: well, no really fast way other than to locate all the valid ips and then try to connect on each at the port you want i guess - avahi-browse might report stuff which is published via upnp type stuff, but i doubt that it'll help with vpn...
[11:45] <zortec> Where is a list of video cards? I want to see if my integrated is supported or not
[11:45] <tiyowan> alejandro: From there you will be able to select the default card for input and output. In the output devices you need to set it to your card, and enable the default option.
[11:46] <alejandro> ah ok let me give it a try
[11:46] <fafaz> indus: it returns: Current status: 1 broken 13 updates
[11:46] <zortec> I also tried "safe graphics" mode but that didn't help
[11:46] <fiasco> grub_booter_: I'm using nmap '<IP_ADDRESS>/24 -p8984' so far, but its also returning closed ports
[11:46] <tiyowan> alejandro: Oh, and make sure that everything in System -> Preferences -> Sound is set to autodetect.
[11:46] <tannersummers> suse cost anything?
[11:47] <rikki_max> suse is opensource
[11:47] <tannersummers> kool
[11:47] <alejandro> tiyowan: what about sound capture?
[11:47] <poq09> G_A_C: thanks
[11:47] <fafaz> indus: is there a way to manually remove openoffice.org-writer? or is this will solve the problem?
[11:47] <alejandro> tiyowan: and default mixer tracks
[11:47] <tannersummers> do u guys have a guide to leanr about linux? like which files have which exstentions and how things run and etc?
[11:47] <zortec> Is there a way to manually install the driver so I can get the installer working?
[11:48] <X-TaZ> I'm getting error when I'm trying to retrieve the ppa public key on keyservers. http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xF872CE69295284EABADF2E2E5BD53107696280BA&op=index is "Connexion time out" Is it from everywhere or only from my network ?
[11:48] <tiyowan> alejandro: Is that in the Device Chooser? Leave those alone for now.
[11:48] <bezoeker> hi there
[11:48] <Slart> tannersummers: try the ubuntu handbook.. hang on.. let me find the url for you
[11:48] <tiyowan> tannersummers: There are a lot of resources available. Linux.com, the Linux Documentation Project, linuxcommand.org, the Linux Reality podcast, etc.
[11:49] <alejandro> tiyowan: so what exactly should i configure in PulseAudio Applet?
[11:49] <tannersummers> =]
[11:49] <tiyowan> alejandro: Output device.
[11:49] <grub_booter_> fiasco: well, i have some python code which does like multiprocess pings via a popen and a select to find machines - it returns all the valid ip addresses and then attempts to access various ports on those - hardly ideal, but more or less cross platform and doesn't rely on privilege escalation :-)
[11:49] <bezoeker> i installed ubuntu and created an user "guest" how would i get it so that on next login all is as it was on the first login, that is an clean home dir etc?
[11:49] <zortec> Can anyone help out please?
[11:49] <Slart> tannersummers: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com
[11:49] <tannersummers> ty
[11:50] <fafaz> indus: what will happen if I remove the directory /usr/lib/openoffice ?
[11:50] <tannersummers> slart i may need u aks u for that lnik agian soon :P im runnign fof cd and cant save it on my other partitions :P
[11:50] <felix__> hi ppl
[11:51] <Slart> tannersummers: shesh.. I have no idea what you just said
[11:51] <alejandro> tiyowan: oh wow my card is muted
[11:51] <tannersummers> lol sorry, im half alseep
[11:51] <fafaz> indus: hello?
[11:52] <tiyowan> alejandro: No dice, huh? Okay, change it back then. Hmm.
[11:52] <indus> ya
[11:52] <alejandro> tiyowan: wait i cant tell if i am unmuting it or not lol
[11:52] <tiyowan> alejandro: You did try logging out and loggin in before checking right?
[11:52] <indus> fafaz: dont
[11:52] <fafaz> indus: ok, sir
[11:53] <indus> fafaz: hmm u still getting same error then
[11:53] <fafaz> yup
[11:53] <gorbierd> hey
[11:53] <tiyowan> alejandro: Incidentally, did you -upgrade- to jaunty?
[11:54] <alejandro> yes
[11:54] <tiyowan> alejandro: Uh-oh.
[11:54] <zortec> Does anyone have any ideas?
[11:54] <indus> fafaz: sudo aptitude remove openoffice.org-writer
[11:54] <alejandro> tiyowan: actually no i did a fresh install
[11:54] <gorbierd> how do i find grep with -r in some kind of files i do [grep -r -i href=\"http:\/\/www\.morizo\.ru/\" *.template] but got no such file or dir of course no, it's on subdir
[11:55] <prosoma> hello, does anyone by chance have the lastest (2.9) reconstructor package? it's homepage has been offline for a couple of days
[11:55] <wraith0x2b> If my machine has no cdrom..what are my install options?
[11:55] <Slart> zortec: ideas about what? if you're going to repeat just repeat the entire question.. on one line
[11:55] <alejandro> tiyowan: brb gonna restart
[11:55] <tiyowan> alejandro: Okay.
[11:55] <fafaz> indus: seems worked
[11:55] <zortec> Slart: How do I get ubuntu installed? It does not like my graphics card.
[11:55] <Slart> wraith0x2b: usb.. or install to the hard drive while it's connected to another computer
[11:55] <flintwingel> wraith0x2b: you could use a USB thumbdrive or network boot if your PC supports PXE boot
[11:55] <wraith0x2b> Slart, it's a laptop..
[11:55] <indus> fafaz: what worked
[11:55] <zortec> I have been working on this for 2 days.  It's very frustrating I should add.
[11:56] <wraith0x2b> flintwingel, how would I go about with that network boot?
[11:56] <tiyowan> zortec: What graphics card do you have?
[11:56] <wraith0x2b> any chance I could install it using let's say an already installed linux?
[11:56] <zortec> tiyowan: NVIDIA 610i/7300 chipset
[11:56] <Slart> zortec: mm.. I know what you mean.. sometimes people just ask questions without giving any kind of details.. my poor poor blood pressure
[11:56] <felix__> zortec, whats your card?
[11:56] <fafaz> indus: I did sudo aptitude remove openoffice.org-writer with no errors
[11:56] <flintwingel> wraith0x2b: to do a network install you will need another machine to boot from
[11:56] <zortec> I can't get the installer to work at all with it.
[11:57] <fafaz> indus: but sitll, the broken package appears in Synaptic
[11:57] <Kiy> i am trying to set my refresh rate to 75, but it will only allow 60 at this resolution, how do i add a custom one?
[11:57] <wraith0x2b> flintwingel, soudns kind of hard...and I left my usb stick at home...damn...
[11:57] <Slart> wraith0x2b: I've also seen some people installing by writing the install cd to a hard drive partition, then booting from that..
[11:57] <zortec> I turned off apci and used "safe graphics" mode.  If I add "break=mount" I get a yellow screen of death.
[11:58] <felix__> zortec, i think there is an alternate text install. hit ESC after setting languaje of livecd boot, or check the options
[11:58] <wraith0x2b> Slart, hm...no extra partition..only the one where I plan on installing it
[11:58] <Slart> wraith0x2b: but if I were you I would get an external usb cd/dvd reader and use that
[11:58] <tiyowan> zortec: Getting that card to run will be -challenging-.
[11:58] <zortec> felix__ The alternate text install doesn't recognize my cdrom
[11:58] <wraith0x2b> external soudns nice but I don;t have one :(
[11:58] <zortec> I'm not sure where to get a driver for that
[11:58] <spork> FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!
[11:58] <wraith0x2b> I have grub..maybe I can use it to boot the iso?!
[11:58] <wraith0x2b> lol
[11:58] <spork>     FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!
[11:59] <FloodBot2> spork: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <felix__> !ops
[11:59] <NishaKitty> what's +z hehe?
[11:59] <alejandro> fixed!
[11:59] <tiyowan> zortec: [#ubuntu]: zortec:
[11:59] <zortec> tiyowan: It has been very challenging.  I've been at it for 2 days.
[11:59] <alejandro> thank you tiyowan
[11:59] <zortec> I just wish it would work. *sigh*
[12:00] <tiyowan> alejandro: You're getting sound in Flash?
[12:00] <alejandro> yes
[12:00] <tiyowan> zortec: One moment, please.
[12:00] <alejandro> it works
[12:00] <tiyowan> alejandro: There you go. :)
[12:00] <fafaz> indus: anything else could I do ?
[12:01] <tiyowan> zortec: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-kernel-common/+bug/195139 - This is a confirmed bug. I'd doubt you'd be able to get your card working with any of the other distributions as well, like Kubuntu or Fedora.
[12:01] <funkyHat> If anyone sees Loganhoup come in here and ask for me, could you get him to email me (or memo me). Cheers
[12:01] <zortec> tiyowan: So am I out of luck?
[12:01] <tannersummers> god this taking forever
[12:02] <felix__> zortek try downloading ubuntu minimal
[12:02] <tiyowan> zortec: I'm afraid so. Pop down to the store and get another card.
[12:02] <felix__> zortek it only have a text install that works for sure
[12:02] <zortec> felix__ What is minimal?
[12:02] <ForeverSmurf> anyone know how to configure apache under ubuntu to run different virtual hosts as a different user:group
[12:03] <rikki_max> foreversmruk: do uk wat ispcp is it might do it
[12:03] <fafaz> indus: pls advice
[12:03] <tiyowan> zortec: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-kernel-common/+bug/195139 - This is a confirmed bug. I'd doubt you'd be able to get your card working with any of the other distributions as well, like Kubuntu or Fedora
[12:03] <felix__> zortec, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:03] <tiyowan> zortec: Hang on. Check out the link I gave you. There's some comments in that about some workarounds. Look into those.
[12:03] <zortec> I was reading the comments, but don't I need a working system first?
[12:03] <ForeverSmurf> rikki_max, could re rephrase that... I can't understand a word ;-)
[12:04] <zortec> I can't get the installer program going.
[12:04] <felix__> zortek then you add the packages using apt or aptitude. i really prefer doing that, as there are lots of packages that the ubuntu default uses
[12:04] <felix__> that i dont need
[12:04] <tiyowan> zortec: You need to do it the hard way with the minimal install that felix__ pointed out to you.
[12:04] <zortec> tiyowan: I don't like how you say hard way...
[12:04] <rikki_max> ispcp (join #ispcp for more info) is a control panel for website hosting. it does all configuring for u i am not sure it will do wat u want but check on #ispcp
[12:04] <zortec> tiyowan: It has already been hard up to this point. :P
[12:05] <indus> fafaz: hi
[12:05] <FSHero> Hello all; can anyone help me with an Ekiga VoIP problem? It involves trying to make my router with symmetric NAT appear to Ekiga as a cone NAT.
[12:05] <tiyowan> zortec: Personally, I'd just get another card.
[12:05] <fafaz> indus: ya
[12:05] <indus> fafaz: 1  sec
[12:05] <pshr> what does this mean how can i remove it
[12:05] <pshr> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[12:05] <indus> fafaz:u cant delete open office i believe
[12:05] <zortec> tiyowan: I intend to actually, was going to pick up a NVIIDA 7900
[12:05] <fafaz> indus: what to do???
[12:05] <indus> fafaz: do a sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:05] <FSHero> Basically, I've tried to enter the ports in my router web-based control panel, but the echo test in Ekiga still doesn't work.
[12:06] <felix__> zortec, its not hard. you can justt write down what programs does ubuntu have and install all from the repos in one apt line. they will be 15 or so
[12:06] <pshr> what does this mean how can i remove it
[12:06] <pshr> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[12:06] <Dreamglider> i just plugged my canon mp140 printer in but when trying to print from open office i get a "Error while printing" how can i get it to print, running ubuntu 8.10
[12:06] <felix__> zortec, that 15 depends on most you will need
[12:07] <felix__> zortec, that 15 depends on most you will need for any other app to work, or just can have a lighter system
[12:07] <zortec> felix__ I need to burn the ISO for the Minimal CD and then where do I get a list of programs to download with apt-get?
[12:07] <guigouz> hello, does anyone by chance have the lastest (2.9) reconstructor package? it's homepage has been offline for a couple of days
[12:07] <fafaz> indus: Unmet dependencies
[12:07] <indus> k
[12:07] <zortec> felix__ I want to make sure that I have the right instructions
[12:08] <tiyowan> zortec: Whatever card you do get, just do a quick google search on to check whether it has good linux support.
[12:08] <felix__> zortec, you install the minimal and then reboot. youll have access to a console like the ALT CTRL F1-F7. then use apt-get or aptitude to download everything
[12:08] <koshari> guigouz i do
[12:08] <indus> fafaz: try again sudo apt-get -f install
[12:08] <guigouz> koshari: can you send me the package ?
[12:09] <aantn> what's the difference between the openjdk and the sun-java packages?
[12:09] <zortec> felix__ Will I have access to an internet connection once I'm in the console?
[12:09] <zortec> felix__ Do I need to make a list of packages first?
[12:09] <guigouz> koshari: thanks a lot
[12:09] <Slart> quibbler: reconstructor? what is that?
[12:10] <fafaz> indus: /usr/bin/dpkg returns error code (1)
[12:10] <felix__> zortec, youll have internet :) and if you wait a moment i can give you the full command.
[12:10] <indus> fafaz: wait
[12:10] <koshari> guigouz thank beagle, he knew where i saved it :-)
[12:10] <Lithax>
[12:10] <Paddy_EIRE> what a day
[12:10] <indus> fafaz: sudo apt-get clean all
[12:11] <guigouz> ;)
[12:11] <indus> fafaz: then sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:11] <fafaz>  indus: the same
[12:12] <koshari> aantn i suspect one has some non gpled code
[12:12] <indus> fafaz: autoremove?
[12:12] <aantn> koshari: which one is official from sun?
[12:12] <fafaz> indus: yes. now I tried it with -f
[12:12] <indus> come in pm
[12:13] <koshari> aantn  they are both from sun but one wont contain any non gpled code,
[12:14] <aantn> koshari: open jdk doesn't have non-gpl code?
[12:14] <koshari> aantn i suspect so, you will likely need to click a eula to use suns closed source ebrsion
[12:15] <aantn> koshari: thanks
[12:16] <quibbler> Slart-> why are you asking me?
[12:16] <tiyowan> Speaking of open-source, is there an open-source port of Silverlight?
[12:16] <zortec> felix__ I need about 15 packages on the minimal CD right?
[12:16] <Lithax> yes, moonlight
[12:17] <tiyowan> Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Thanks Lithax.
[12:17] <bilalakhtar> hello everybedy. I want to ask you how do i run a DVD in UDF format on my Jaunty computer?
[12:17] <felix__> zortec, i cant find a complete list. but most simple is "sudo -i;apt-get update; apt-get install gnome (or kde)" and then install the packages you like in a desktop environment
[12:18] <felix__> zortec, or just write down a list of ubuntu livecd and put them after apt-get install
[12:19] <Guest7553> how can i fix my screen alignment on my monitor? xvidtune appears to do nothing
[12:19] <G_A_C> zortec, felix__, wouldn't "aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" be more appropriate?
[12:20] <G_A_C> that should get you everything that would come as standard with Ubuntu, and I seem to recall the ubuntu-* metapackages aid in upgrades between versions as well
[12:20] <felix__> lol, of course. i didnt noticed that package
[12:21] <zortec> felix__, G_A_C: Do I still need all the gnome packages?
[12:21]  * tannersummers still waits
[12:21] <felix__> zortec, ubuntu-desktop package depends on all ubuntu have
[12:21] <G_A_C> zortec, no; ubuntu-desktop will get you the full GNOME desktop, kubuntu-desktop would get you KDE, etc
[12:22] <zortec> What is the difference in aptitude and apt-get
[12:22] <G_A_C> installing ubuntu-desktop should be about 99.99999% identical to installing from a standard desktop CD
[12:22] <G_A_C> nothing much really, for installing packages you know the name of, just personal preference
[12:22] <felix__> zortec, aptitude is like synaptic, with a ui, in console
[12:23] <G_A_C> I also like the aptitude text menu "thing", so I've just got used to using aptitude for all my apt needs
[12:23] <zortec> So the only other packages I will need are for my graphics card?
[12:23] <zortec> Or am I missing some others?
[12:23] <felix__> zortec, yes. you will use vesa driver by default
[12:23] <Lithax> aptitude handles package conflicts a little more sanely than apt-get
[12:23] <G_A_C> ubuntu-desktop should pull in the restricted drivers applet, which should install your graphics drivers once you boot into GNOME
[12:23] <G_A_C> alternatively, there's things like EnvyNG which can do it from the console
[12:24] <G_A_C> (assuming EnvyNG is still around, and supported anyway)
[12:24] <zortec> Yes, but with my graphics card isn't the problem a vesa driver so don't I need to pull in special drivers?
[12:24] <zortec> That is why I can't get the installer to load on the live cd...
[12:25] <felix__> G_A_C, i used it some days ago. it fails at installing a TNT2 in an old pc
[12:25] <felix__> hardware manager doesnt detect at all
[12:25] <koshari> felix_ that card is ancient
[12:25] <G_A_C> felix__, probably purely to do with the age of the card; that won't be supported by any Forceware release from Nvidia
[12:26] <G_A_C> you couldn't get that working even manually, I wouldn't think :\
[12:26] <Lithax> how old is your pc felix
[12:26] <koshari> G_A_C i suspect it would work with the vesa driver
[12:26] <zortec> Even if my card is not supported? nforce 610/7300 NVIDIA
[12:26] <G_A_C> maybe, but EnvyNG isn't designed for setting things up with vesa...
[12:26] <zortec> It should pull in basic drivers... that is my understanding
[12:27] <felix__> koshari, G_A_C it has a legacy driver. one free and one privative, from nvidia site, i tryed but hw manager didnt recognise neither
[12:27] <koshari> felix__ you would have to manually install that package i suspect
[12:27] <koshari> zortec you shoulnt have to much trouble getting that gpu sorted
[12:28] <tiyowan> Guys.
[12:28] <zortec> koshari: It's not officially supported which I think is a little strange
[12:28] <zortec> I always thought nvidia was ahead of its game on linux
[12:28] <tiyowan> felix__, koshari, zortec: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-kernel-common/+bug/195139
[12:28] <zortec> being how popular of a chipset it is
[12:28] <rikki_max> for all those who think nvidia TNT2 graphics cards dont work well they do work but u can't "apply" it to be used
[12:29] <felix__> koshari, i did. it is nvidia*71* or smthing like that. i installed all packages that includes a 71 but hw manager stillsaying that no hw is found and so i cant enable the use of privativa. lshw detects the card
[12:29] <qdb> hello. i search in main window of nautilus .htaccess in phpbb folder and it has found nothing
[12:29] <qdb> though there are several htaccess in subdomains
[12:30] <qdb> hidden files are shown
[12:30] <zortec> tiyowan: I also notice that is for 7.10
[12:30] <chadi> Is Jaunty so buggy with you guys?
[12:30] <zortec> Wouldn't they have improved hardware support with jaunty?
[12:30] <rikki_max> chadi: it was when i tried it so i had to use intrepid ibex
[12:31] <tiyowan> zortec: Good point. Let me search the driver packages.
[12:32] <chadi> rikki_max I don't think I will go back to earlier versions though
[12:32] <koshari> zortec tried envy?
[12:32] <qdb> does not anybody know whether 9.04 works with nvidia mx 400, 440 , 440 se... etc ?
[12:32] <Lithax> chadi, what problems do u have?
[12:32] <qdb> 8.10 does not
[12:32] <rikki_max> chadi: intrepid does have all the packages i need and i am using as a server, main pc
[12:32] <Aryaan> Hi, whats the difference between nvidia glx new and the binary drivers provided by Nvidia
[12:32] <koshari> chadi there are a few bugs, but not unlike previous releases imo
[12:32] <the_dark_warrio> My notebook keyboard isn't working... I've unplugged my external keyboard at home and now it doesn't work. The problem seems to be o xorg conf, because it works ok on GRUB menu (I can select between operating systems). Any tips?
[12:32] <tiyowan> zortec: Aha. http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/nvidia-glx-180
[12:33] <Lithax> qdb, yes it does, u need the older nvidia driver
[12:33] <koshari> Aryaan nvidia glx are binarys provided ny nvidia
[12:33] <tiyowan> zortec: Looks like you're in business. :)
[12:33] <qdb> thank you, lithax. other question: does 8.04?
[12:33] <chadi> Lithax random problems. in my one-month trial, it crashed once, hibernation did not restore twice, some apps closed without notice, compiz had lots of problems
[12:34] <zortec> tiyowan: Do you see the nforce chipset in there?
[12:34] <chadi> i was satisfied with 8.04LTS
[12:34] <Lithax> qdp, i have a 8.04 machine working fine with nvidia rwo mx
[12:34] <Lithax> 429 mx
[12:34] <koshari> qdb yes , i have a mx card with nvidia which was running 8.04
[12:34] <Aryaan> koshari: so i dont have to install the nvidia driver from their site for full functionality?
[12:34] <qdb> thank you
[12:34] <tiyowan> zortec: I do, sir. GeForce 7050 / nForce 610i right?
[12:35] <zortec> tiyowan: I'll check to make sure.
[12:35] <koshari> Aryaan generaly no, however often the packaged snapshots arent the bleeding edge, but thats generally not a big deal
[12:35] <zortec> GeForce 7050 / NVIDIA nForce 610i
[12:35] <qdb> hello. i search in main window of nautilus .htaccess in phpbb folder and it has found nothing though there are several htaccess in subdomains. hidden files are shown
[12:35] <zortec> tiyowan: That is the video card.
[12:36] <tiyowan> zortec: There's more. :)
[12:36] <Aryaan> koshari: would installing the drivers help me to get hibernate working as desktop effects are supposed to hamper hibernate?
[12:36] <zortec> tiyowan: So there is no way to get access to that on the live cd for the installer?
[12:36] <zortec> tiyowan: I would need to use the Minimal CD...
[12:36] <qdb> may be i will test it with artificially made folder with subdirectories and htaccess files
[12:36] <Lithax> chadi, if 8.04 aint broke, don't fix it
[12:37] <qdb> fix: though there are several htaccess in subdirectories
[12:37] <tiyowan> zortec: Hmm.
[12:37] <koshari> Aryaan i wouldnt imagne so
[12:37] <felix__> zortec, does the livecd work? if yes, just open a console and "sudo apt-get install ubiquity; ubiquity"
[12:37] <tiyowan> zortec: When you try to install from the normal live CD, does your install hang or something?
[12:37] <gorbierd> how do i run some command for grep result? for example nano found files
[12:37] <chadi> Lithax true...
[12:38] <zortec> The installer hangs on that graphics card.
[12:38] <zortec> It drops me to a busybox guys.
[12:38] <zortec> That is when I try to "Install Ubuntu" from the menu.
[12:38] <tiyowan> zortec: Okay.
[12:38] <Aryaan> koshari: okay. do you think ill break my system if i go for the binary drivers?
[12:38] <ziroday> zortec: did you do "Check CD for Defects"
[12:38] <orochi_> Does anyone know if there are any issues with ext4 and data loss with KDE4 in Ubuntu?
[12:38] <zortec> ziroday: I tried, get the same busybox error.
[12:38] <koshari> Aryaan not if you install the correct ones
[12:38] <Lithax> aryaan, not beyond repair
[12:39] <computer> fika
[12:39] <ziroday> orochi_: most ext4 dataloss issues have been resolved, but if you are worried about your data its safer to go with ext3
[12:39] <zortec> ziroday: It doesn't let me do anything except "Boot to first hard disk" on the live CD
[12:39] <tiyowan> zortec: What you need to do is get the text-based installed done, and then apt-get the appropriate packages. I don't have the experience to guide you though.
[12:39] <Aryaan> thanks. is there a way to backup settings before i do?
[12:39] <ziroday> zortec: sounds like a bad burn, try burning the image (on a different cd) again
[12:39] <tiyowan> ziroday: The installer hanging has been reported as bug for his graphic card model.
[12:39] <orochi_> ziroday: Ahh, okay, thanks...unfortunately I've already installed on ext4 so hopefully I won't have any issues
[12:39] <koshari> Aryaan there are many ways, from a partimage snapshot to jsut uninstaling the package
[12:40] <zortec> Is there anyone that can guide me through a text based install?
[12:40] <Lithax> aryan backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:40] <zortec> I have never done one...
[12:40] <ziroday> tiyowan: but the Check CD for Defects does not rely on X or graphics drivers
[12:40] <Aryaan> alright, thanks for everything.
[12:40] <chadi> Lithax may I consider Jaunty as being in its alpha stage?
[12:40] <zortec> ziroday: Are you sure it doesn't?
[12:40] <ziroday> zortec: certain :)
[12:41] <tiyowan> ziroday: Which would mean that if zortec were to run the check, it would pass?
[12:41] <chadi> hoping that those bugs will be reported and fixed
[12:41] <koshari> Lithax are any of the graphics settings in xorg.conf > 8.04?
[12:41] <zortec> ziroday: The reason I say that is I used the alternate installer and it didn't detect my cdrom but it loaded the installer...
[12:41] <IHS_intern> I'm curious, what is the oldest Nvidia card still supported by Jaunty?
[12:41] <zortec> ziroday: It is really weird.
[12:41] <Lithax> chadi, i've not tried it yet, but i've heard other reports similar to yours
[12:41] <chadi> oh
[12:41] <ziroday> IHS_intern: more or less all of them AFAIK, what do you have?
[12:42] <IHS_intern> ziroday, Geforce 2 MX and TNT 2s
[12:42] <koshari> IHS_intern are we counting chips before nvidia bought out fx?
[12:42] <zortec> Hmm, is there another way to test my CD?
[12:42] <ziroday> IHS_intern: there are all the older nvidia drivers in the repo's which still support the older cards, and nv might
[12:42] <ziroday> IHS_intern: ah well in that case, vesa is probably all you need :)
[12:42] <Lithax> koshari, i'm not near my machine to check, but i would guess not
[12:42] <zortec> I checked the MD5 hashes which were the same.
[12:43] <IHS_intern> Also got ATI Rage128s, was wondering if the Nvidia chips would serveme better
[12:43]  * IHS_intern is getting angered by this space bar
[12:43] <felix__> IHS_intern, i have a tnt2. does yours work?
[12:43] <koshari> IHS_intern a mx2 card with closed binaries will awalk all over a ati 9250 which is a much newer card
[12:43] <Lithax> zortec, ah that old bug
[12:44] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi all. Is it normal that in evolution pressing "ins" to switch to overwrite mode does not do anything useful?
[12:44] <tiyowan> zortec: You'll be able to download that package after you do the minimal install.
[12:44] <zortec> Lithax: Old bug?
[12:44] <Lithax> the not finding the cd bug
[12:44] <zortec> tiyowan: I just want to make sure I'm not going to get stuck in the minimal install.
[12:44] <IHS_intern> felix__, I'm using an ATI Rage128 At the moment. got a GeForce2 MX right next to me, but wasn't sure if the drivers were available with the new X.org in Jaunty
[12:44] <zortec> tiyowan: Will I have access to the IRC room? :P
[12:45] <zortec> tiyowan: Preferably without having to boot back into Windows
[12:45] <tiyowan> zortec: Well, put that way, I can't guarantee. :P
[12:45] <koshari> IHS_intern the mx2 will trounce it
[12:45]  * Lithax finds that typing from a nokia n810 keyboard ain't so easy after all
[12:45] <zortec> What is the package to install the IRC?
[12:46] <IHS_intern> thanks,everyone that answered. I'll be setting up a new dev. system then.
[12:46] <felix__> zortek "apt-get install xchat
[12:46] <chadi> zortec x-chat ?
[12:46] <IHS_intern> zortec, theres irssi, and xchat, andothers
[12:46] <zortec> Oh, but wouldn't it be a part of the ubuntu-desktop package?
[12:46] <felix__> it is
[12:46] <Le-Chuck_ITA> zortec: because pidgin supports irc
[12:46] <tiyowan> zortec: Considering the scenario that you won't have any graphics - irssi.
[12:46] <zortec> That seems a better way to go than installing all the gnome packages
[12:46] <zortec> Do you agree?
[12:46] <Lovok> is it possible to have windows read a FAT32 partition off a ubuntu harddrive?
[12:46] <koshari> zortec i just use pidgin
[12:47] <koshari> Lovok cant see why not
[12:47] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Lovok: it should do that alone but if it doesnt then you won't have any way to convince windows to do that
[12:47] <tiyowan> zortec: You won't have to install everything by yourself when you go with the minimal install. It'll guide you using text.
[12:47] <zortec> One last concern, will I have access to my network?
[12:47] <zortec> I'm on a wired ADSL connection.
[12:47] <Lithax> lovok there's no such thing as an 'ubuntu' hd if the partition's fat32 windows should read it
[12:47] <erUSUL> Lovok: it should just appear in MyComputer
[12:48] <sandeep_> how can i remove python
[12:48] <Le-Chuck_ITA> zortec: pppoeconf
[12:48] <koshari> zortec ehternet should be a soda, wifi could be a drama if you need madwifi ect
[12:48] <erUSUL> sandeep_: probably you can not... many things depend on python being installed
[12:48] <zortec> Le-Chuck_ITA: The Minimal install won't configure that automatically?
[12:48] <Le-Chuck_ITA> zortec: I don't know :)
[12:48] <Lovok> thanks for the replies ; the way it works now, i have XP on hd(0,0), and fat32 on hd(1,0), / on hd(1,1), /home on hd(1,2), swap on hd(1,3) ; XP doesn'T see the fat32
[12:48] <zortec> I still have no idea what is going to happen when I get into the Minimal install... but I get the feeling it's all command line based.
[12:49] <Le-Chuck_ITA> zortec: but pppoeconf will work very well :)
[12:49] <tiyowan> zortec: Hmm. Can your hardware run a virtual machine?
[12:49] <Lithax> sandeep, if u use gnome, it's probably best u don't
[12:49] <felix__> zortec, i use wifi and i hadn any problem with jaunty minimal
[12:49] <zortec> tiyowan: Yeah I was running Ubuntu for awhile on VirtualBox
[12:49] <zortec> tiyowan: But it has access to the video drivers for my chipset
[12:49] <tiyowan> zortec: There you go. VMs are great for testing this kind of test.
[12:49] <koshari> zortec its pretty wast to follos, just like the alternative installer except you need to download heaps of packages or use a proxy with local apt packages
[12:49] <sandeep_> erUSUL: i have installed python2.5 from source on my centos pc for trac
[12:49] <sandeep_> but now my yum is not working
[12:50] <Lithax> zortec, have you tried an alternate install?
[12:50] <zortec> Lithax: I have an alternate CD, but it can't locate my cdrom and so it's going in a loop
[12:50] <Lithax> sandeep, u realise this is an ubuntu chatroom?
[12:50] <zortec> When I tell it I don't have any drivers, it tells me again it can't locate my cdrom
[12:50] <koshari> zortec do you have a usb stick?
[12:50] <sandeep_> yes
[12:50] <Lithax> zortec, oh right
[12:51] <zortec> koshari: I think I have a 1GB usb drive laying around
[12:51] <scooterthenoob> I see "1442 members" in this chat room, but can I tell how many people are currently logged in?
[12:51] <koshari> zortec use that to install
[12:51] <tiyowan> sandeep: Perhaps the folks in the Centos channel could guide you?
[12:51] <zortec> koshari: Is there a guide on that? :P
[12:51] <koshari> zortec 3 liner, boot live disc, create usb install, install from usb :-)
[12:52] <tiyowan> koshari: That's a great idea.
[12:52] <sandeep_> ok
[12:52] <sandeep_> thanks
[12:52] <zortec> koshari: Where is "create usb install"?
[12:52] <tiyowan> zortec: Can you boot into the live cd?
[12:52] <tiyowan> !usb | zortec
[12:52] <zortec> tiyowan: I can boot into it, just can't use any of the menu
[12:53] <koshari> zortec sys > adm >createusb
[12:53] <livingdaylight> zortec: hi
[12:53] <Lithax> zortec, how old is your pc?
[12:53] <zortec> Lithax: I built it about 3 months ago
[12:54] <livingdaylight> zortec: hi
[12:54] <koshari>  zortec the bios is sure to support booting from sb then
[12:54] <koshari> usb
[12:54] <zortec> koshari: I'm not sure that option was in my bios
[12:54] <the_dark_warrio> Is it possible to start Ubuntu dismissing xorg.conf from grub menu?
[12:54] <livingdaylight> zortec: hi
[12:55] <koshari> zortec you prolly just never looked hard enough
[12:55] <tiyowan> Quick question. The build-essentials, headers, available through the alternate installer CD right?
[12:55] <zortec> livingdaylight: Hi, do you have a question?
[12:55] <G_A_C> zortec, trypowering off, plugging in your USB pen, then powering on with it plugged in and checking the BIOS
[12:55] <Lithax> zortec, it'll be in the boot options, maybe as removable media
[12:55] <livingdaylight> zortec: no, why?
[12:55] <G_A_C> your USB pen will probably be listed as a hard drive, most modern BIOSes will give you a choice of which order to boot your HDs
[12:55] <zortec> livingdaylight: You keep saying hi :)
[12:56] <scooterthenoob> I now see "1440 members" in this chat room - but can I tell how many people are currently logged in?
[12:56] <Lithax> warrio, boot to init 3 if you don't want X
[12:56] <chocobanana> Hi everyone!!!!!
[12:56] <livingdaylight> zortec: just being friendly, but you keep ignoring me :(
[12:56] <Lithax> warrio, boot to init 3 if you don't want X
[12:56] <livingdaylight> chocobanana: HI!
[12:56] <zortec> Hmm, so I have multiple options: USB install, minimal CD, or alternate text install
[12:56] <koshari> G_A_C mine recignises the usb hardware and prints the name of it in the bios or gives a generic usb key option, both generally work
[12:56] <chocobanana> :)
[12:56] <tiyowan> zortec: Least painful is USB install.
[12:56] <G_A_C> yeah, it's BIOS dependent
[12:56] <scooterthenoob> hi chocobanana!
[12:56] <livingdaylight> chocobanana: great combination
[12:56] <zortec> livingdaylight: I didn't mean to ignore you, just been trying to get ubuntu installed on my system for 2 days
[12:56] <G_A_C> my Asus at home lists a "USB 2.0 Pendrive" entry under my two main HDs
[12:56] <chocobanana> you bet!
[12:56] <G_A_C> but still treats it as a hard drive
[12:56] <koshari> zortec you could even install to the hdd in another machine and do the switchseroo
[12:57] <zortec> It's nice to find such a friendly community though and people that are willing to help.
[12:57] <G_A_C> a lot of Intel desktop boards (Phoenix BIOS, I think) will give them their own USB devices section
[12:57] <Pici> scooterthenoob: This isn't really on-topic for this channel, but: /who
[12:57] <livingdaylight> zortec: hence your fuse is a bit short... ic
[12:57] <chocobanana> does anyone know how to configure Ubuntu 9.04's new notifications display position?
[12:57] <Pici> chocobanana: You cannot.
[12:57] <chocobanana> oh!
[12:57] <koshari> zortec you can boot the usblive session just like the disc and see if it works
[12:57] <nailora> chocobanana: indeed not configurable
[12:57] <zortec> I'm going to see if I can find the usb if not then we'll do the minimal install
[12:58] <livingdaylight> zortec: you should get entry into world guinness book of records.. I would've thought it impossible to take that long... took me about 20minutes
[12:58] <Lithax> livingdaylight, it's a bit odd to just stay on orc saying hi to everyone
[12:58] <Lithax> irc
[12:58] <chocobanana> that's terrible. If you use a dual screen setup with the secondary screen on the right, it looks nasty
[12:58] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[12:58] <livingdaylight> Lithax: what an odd thing to say
[12:58] <koshari> zortec and if you have a drama just create the usb install in another machine, and then boot the prepared usb stick in the one you wanna isntall
[12:58] <chocobanana> well, I'm sure the devs are aware of the problem...
[12:59] <zortec> livingdaylight: It really shouldn't take that long, but I have a graphics card that is not supported on the live cd or rather I can't get access to the packages I need to run it
[12:59] <Lithax> what have u said that's of any use to anyone?
[12:59] <livingdaylight> zortec: shux... agues you hadn't had linux in mind at the time of building your machine?
[12:59] <chocobanana> zortec: which graphics cards is that?
[12:59] <zortec> livingdaylight: I actually had windows/linux in mind when I built the computer
[12:59] <saif> hi all ..can any1 help me
[13:00] <wraith0x2b> ok I managed to boot the iso from my existing grub using http://deepbluespaces.blogspot.com/2008/07/install-ubuntu-804-from-hard-disk.html
[13:00] <chocobanana> saif: ask your question
[13:00] <SirFunk_> hey, i have two strange problems with jaunty on my laptop: 1.) 99% of the time when i resume from suspend... X has crashed and i'm back at the GDM login prompt 2.) X never seems to idle and suspend on its own, power management says it should after 10 min, but it never does
[13:00] <zortec> chocobanana: nvidia geforce 7300/nforce 610i chipset
[13:00] <saif> i think my graphic card is not working properly
[13:00] <wraith0x2b> problem is I can;t install because it said it needs to comit stuff to the partition table..and I got the drive mounted (since i run the iso off it)
[13:00] <chocobanana> zortec: the nv or nouveau driver don't work?
[13:00] <wraith0x2b> any ideas?
[13:00] <scooterthenoob> I just got an Eee 900A, and it will only "mirror" when I want to run an external monitor. Anyone know how I might "extend the desktop" to my external LCD  (and increase resolution)??
[13:00] <scooterthenoob> Will installling Ubuntu help?
[13:00] <chocobanana> said: please go to the point
[13:01] <chocobanana> saif: please go to the point *
[13:01] <zortec> chocobanana: I can't get the installer going.  It crashes to a busybox prompt
[13:01] <davidh38> hey guys, what means the "rc" in bash .bashrc?
[13:01] <saif> how can i make it work
[13:01] <zortec> Can you do a text based install from the live cd?
[13:01] <tannersummers> guys any program i cna download that can tell me hardware information? more spefic the slot on my mobo that i can place a video card in? i need to find out if i have pci express or agp
[13:01] <chocobanana> zortec: is that the problem you were having yesterday?
[13:01] <flintwingel> scooterthenoob: Menu->System->Preferences->Display allows your to manipulate displays
[13:01] <zortec> chocobanana: Same problem.
[13:02] <chocobanana> zortec: why not from the alternate installer disk?
[13:02] <Pici> davidh38: run commands
[13:02] <scooterthenoob> flintwingel: thx, I did that and the only option is "mirror" (if you want both displays at the same time)
[13:02] <zortec> chocobanana: I have been at it now for 2 days, but I did get some sleep and woke up and trying to get it working.
 i cant use visualeffect or compiz because of it
[13:02] <chocobanana> saif: what's the machine graphics card?
 even though it was great on 8.1
[13:02] <davidh38> does anybody know what "rc" in .bashrc means?
[13:02] <tannersummers> guys any program i cna download that can tell me hardware information? more spefic the slot on my mobo that i can place a video card in? i need to find out if i have pci express or agp
[13:02] <Pici> davidh38: I just answered you
[13:02] <livingdaylight> same with .conkyrc or .zshrc
[13:02] <saif> Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[13:02] <zortec> chocobanana: There is a bug in the alternate installer.  It doesn't locate my cdrom
[13:03] <davidh38> pici: thank you, sorry
[13:03] <zortec> chocobanana: It's going in a loop for some odd reason.
[13:03] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Hmm, good question...
[13:03] <saif> chocobanana Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[13:03] <Lithax> tannersummers, hardinfo
[13:03] <tiyowan> tannersummers: hwinfo
[13:03] <chocobanana> zortec: do you have a USB stick? You could make a bootable USB alternate installer. Do you have 9.04 installed on another machine?
[13:03] <flintwingel> scooterthenoob: if "Mirror Screens" in not checked then you should have two separate screens
[13:04] <zortec> chocobanana: That is what they suggested in the IRC room or a Minimal Install
[13:04] <Lithax> or just run lspci from cli
[13:04] <chocobanana> saif: I know someone who has the same problem but I'm not sure why. You could try searching in the forums.
[13:04] <zortec> chocobanana: I have to go find that usb stick
[13:04] <livingdaylight> zortec: it might be quicker to return or resale your graphics card and get one that is supported out of the box?
[13:04] <saif> Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[13:04] <chocobanana> zortec: is your internet connection wired or wireless?
 thanx
[13:04] <zortec> livingdaylight: It is integrated.  I can't sell it, lol.
[13:04] <chocobanana> saif: good luck
[13:05] <zortec> livingdaylight: But I can replace it with a PCI-E card.
[13:05] <livingdaylight> zortec: yea!
[13:05] <chocobanana> saif : I'm sure you'll find something meaningful in the forums
[13:05] <davidh38> i have a problem with the deskbar, sometimes it doesnt come to the front, but stays in the back, though i invoked it. I could even right something in, and it would start, but i cannot see it quite good. Does anybody know of the "bug"?
[13:05] <scooterthenoob> flintwingel: the only options (on the Linux that comes with the Eee 900a) are : "View both external and internal displays, View etral display only, or View internal display only"
[13:05] <tiyowan> livingdaylight: zortec's card is integrated. MSI mobo.
[13:05] <livingdaylight> zortec: integrated is never as good as dedicated anyhow
[13:06] <deepak> hii
[13:06] <zortec> I built the computer for $500 which was a nice deal for all the parts.  I should have figured in the cost a new video card
[13:06] <deepak> i have a problem in ubuntu
[13:06] <tannersummers> lixthax how do i install hardinfo
[13:06] <deepak> my wifi is not working can any buddy help me
[13:06] <Lithax> apt-get install hardinfo
[13:06] <exco> what module is for bluetooth on a Wind U100?
[13:06] <chocobanana> deepak: which Ubuntu version and which wireless card do you have?
[13:07] <tannersummers> can it still downlaod when runnign off live cd
[13:07] <deepak> 9.04 and
[13:07] <deepak> i donnot have any idea abt card
[13:07] <chocobanana> deepak: open terminal and type lspci
[13:08] <deepak> yes
[13:08] <deepak> i done
[13:08] <deepak> now
[13:08] <Pici> !enter | deepak
[13:08] <chinosuke> I got message from stranger msn contact when I use pidgin messager
[13:08] <chocobanana> deepak: tells us about what comes listed in front of network controller
[13:08] <deepak> ok
[13:09] <chinosuke> I got message from stranger msn contact when I use pidgin messenger. Is it a bug or security issue
[13:09] <deepak> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[13:09] <deepak> now
[13:09] <deiapcruz> ola será que alguem pode me auxiliar?
[13:09] <tiyowan> deepak: Can you ping your router?
[13:10] <livingdaylight> !es | deiaccord
[13:10] <deepak> now i am using eto
[13:10] <Myrtti> !pt | deiapcruz
[13:10] <tiyowan> !es | deiaccord
[13:10] <zortec> I found the usb stick.  It's a sandisk cruzer 1GB.
[13:10] <deepak> no
[13:10] <chocobanana> deepak: check instruction on the first post here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1134206
[13:10] <deepak> even wifi is not able to turn on
[13:10] <Myrtti> !wireless | deepak
[13:10] <zortec> !usb
[13:10] <chocobanana> deepak: should be like riding a icycle
[13:10] <chocobanana> bicycle
[13:11] <SirFunk_> When my ubuntu wakes from sleep often X has crashed and it's back at the GDM login screen, why might this happen?
[13:11] <chocobanana> !suspen
[13:11] <chocobanana> SirFunk: !suspend
[13:11] <chocobanana> !suspend
[13:12] <chocobanana> damn
[13:12] <chocobanana> heeheh
[13:12] <chocobanana> !standby
[13:12] <chocobanana> oh darn
[13:12] <zortec> What are the simple steps to create a USB install? There is a lot of info on that page
[13:12] <Lithax> !hibernation
[13:13] <deepak> hellooo
[13:13] <SirFunk_> oh
[13:13] <SirFunk_> !suspend
[13:13] <SirFunk_> ig
[13:13] <SirFunk_> oic
[13:13] <zortec> !standby
[13:13] <alienkid10> My brother's computer just finished booting and was about to show GDM but then it went to a blank screen and it isn't taking commands what should we do?
[13:13] <SirFunk_> nohin
[13:13] <tiyowan> zortec: Well. The easiest way is to boot into the live CD, go to System -> Admin. -> USB install, tell it where the iso is, where the usb drive is, and that's about it.
[13:13] <Slart> SirFunk_: check the logs.. /var/log/syslog is a good start
[13:14] <zortec> !sleep
[13:14] <deepak> can any buudy help me to install wifi driver in ubuntu 9.04
[13:14] <tiyowan> zortec: If you're not able to use a live CD, then you need to download and use a program called unetbootin.
[13:14] <zortec> tiyowan: Where do you get to System -> Admin from the live CD?
[13:14] <tiyowan> alienkid10: So you're able to use the commandline right?
[13:14] <zortec> tiyowan: I don't remember seeing those.
[13:14] <alienkid10> no
[13:14] <tiyowan> zortec: Put in the live CD. Try Ubuntu.
[13:15] <SirFunk_> Slart: good call
[13:15] <zortec> tiyowan: I can't get that to work. :(
[13:15] <alienkid10> nothing
[13:15] <zortec> tiyowan: That is the problem.
[13:15] <tiyowan> alienkid10: What graphics card do you have?
[13:15] <tiyowan> zortec: I know - read the information on the USB install page about the second method: unetbootin.
[13:15] <deepak> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[13:16] <zortec> tiyowan: Thanks, reading it now.
[13:16] <chocobanana> zortec: with Ubuntu installed on another machine, it's as symple as System > Administration > Live USB Creator
[13:16] <alienkid10> as if shutdown but computer is humming Intel 845G series. It worked yedterday
[13:16] <tiyowan> alienkid10: It worked yesterday?
[13:16] <alienkid10> yep
[13:16] <chocobanana> deepak: menu System > Administration > Hardware drivers
[13:16] <byonix> excuse me, where's the kubuntu channel?
[13:17] <zortec> chocobanana: I don't have another machine available.  The other one is a Mac. :P
[13:17] <MikeChelen> !kubuntu
[13:17] <tiyowan> byonix: #kubuntu
[13:17] <alienkid10> 82845G
[13:17] <tiyowan> alienkid10: Okay...so did you guys do something yesterday?
[13:17] <byonix> thank you
[13:17] <tiyowan> alienkid10: Does the boot process fail if you select the Recovery option from GRUB?
[13:18] <TheFunkbomb> hey, I'm looking at my system monitor and it has both my cores as maxed out.  Why?
[13:18] <tiyowan> TheFunkbomb: Running any resource-intense applications?
[13:19] <TheFunkbomb> tiyowan, just IRC and banshee and system monitor now
[13:19] <alienkid10> he cold rebooted
[13:19] <chocobanana> zortec: how about the minimal installation? Once it's up and running, all you need to do is sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:19] <alienkid10> we got to GDM!
[13:19] <alienkid10> not sur what we did
[13:20] <gibbo> we
[13:20] <tiyowan> TheFunkbomb: I'd use ps and top to find out what's going on.
[13:20] <TheFunkbomb> tiyowan, npviewer.bin is the problem it looks like.
[13:20] <tiyowan> TheFunkbomb: Kill it.
[13:20] <zortec> chocobanana: Which is easier? minimal install or usb install
[13:21] <gibbo> chi è italiano??
[13:21] <zortec> chocobanana: I was doing the usb install
[13:21] <tbergeron> Hi! I'm trying to change my user and my root password but when I do a 'passwd' and I type my password and repeat it, it does nothing and my console freezes... Then I reconnect to it and see that my password hasn't changed... I try to reinstall passwd package but it changed nothing...
[13:21] <TheFunkbomb> yeah, instant decrease
[13:21] <tiyowan> !it | gibbo
[13:21] <tiyowan> TheFunkbomb: Just curious...but what is npviewer.bin?
[13:21] <Slart> !root | tbergeron
[13:21] <Slart> tbergeron: but it shouldn't freeze... that's a bit odd..
[13:21] <tiyowan> TheFunkbomb: nvm, it's Adobe's Flash plugin
[13:22] <chocobanana> zortec: well, is the machine connected to the internet wired or wirelessly?
[13:22] <TheFunkbomb> tiyowan, yeah.  I had two instances running.  No wonder I was running 10 degrees higher than normal
[13:22] <zortec> chocobanana: Wired
[13:22] <Slart> tbergeron: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[13:22] <tbergeron> Slart: I have ubuntu server. And I have a root password. Hey I'm not a noob, this is serious I tried with several tips from my sysadmin aswell....
[13:22] <chocobanana> go minimal then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[13:22] <tbergeron> Ubuntu Server 9
[13:22] <tiyowan> TheFunkbomb: Just drop down to the command line and kill the plugin everytime you finish using firefox.
[13:23] <wraith0x2b> ok I managed to install ubuntu. but it wrote over my already existing grub that picks it's files from a separate partition...how can I get that one back to use with ubuntu?
[13:23] <TheFunkbomb> yeah.  I'll have to do that.  Or find a fix
[13:23] <zortec> tiyowan: I'm downloading the files to create the usb install with unetbootin.
[13:23] <tiyowan> zortec: Great. :)
[13:23] <zortec> It's going to take awhile. :P
[13:23] <tiyowan> TheFunkbomb: Go for it.
[13:23] <Slart> tbergeron: you've checked the logs? no info there?
[13:23] <xci> what program should I use to let some programs to use only some part of the bandwith at maximum?
[13:23] <TheFunkbomb> tiyowan, I'm looking at the forums now.
[13:23] <chocobanana> zortec: minimal iso is 10mb :D
[13:24] <tannersummers> tiyowan
[13:24] <zortec> This one is 699MB.
[13:24] <zortec> It's only 2% done.
[13:24] <tiyowan> chocobanana: He's getting the normal iso to use with unetbootin.
[13:24] <tiyowan> tannersummers: ?
[13:24] <TheFunkbomb> zortec, you downloading via FTP or torrents?
[13:25] <tannersummers> http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/Tanner2007/finally.png
[13:25] <tannersummers> =]
[13:25] <zortec> I'm downloading from http://caesar.acc.umu.se/mirror/ubuntu-releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[13:25] <tiyowan> wraith0x2b: Could you please clarify your problem?
[13:25] <MikeChelen> xci, depends what kind of programs, for downloads id recommend using bittorrent
[13:25] <chocobanana> tiyowan: the idea is just to get it started quickly. poor soul has been dealing with this for 2 days :)
[13:25] <TheFunkbomb> tannersummers, how much ram do you have that you're using a 4.4gb swap?
[13:25] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Awesome.
[13:26] <tannersummers> the funk bomb idk dud ei just made it sincei had to delete my old and gave it a good amount of mb
[13:26] <zortec> What advantage does the usb install have?
[13:26] <G_A_C> probably not much, TheFunkbomb. My 2Gb laptop has a 5.2Gb swapfile, that Ubuntu set up for as part of the autopartitioning
[13:26] <tannersummers> but physical i have 4 gb of ram
[13:26] <TheFunkbomb> you don't know how much ram you have?
[13:26] <tannersummers> o 4 gb
[13:26] <tannersummers> physical
[13:27] <TheFunkbomb> oh, that's about right then.
[13:27] <tbergeron> Slart: in which logfile should there be any infos about this?
[13:27] <stamenko> is there anyone here who have expirience with some software for statical analysis by finite elements analysis method ?
[13:27] <TheFunkbomb> Yeah, when I set up my Ubuntu, it gave me an 11gb swap.  I was like "what the blazes?"  I shrunk it down to 5gb
[13:27] <zortec> I still have to confirm that I can boot from usb in my bios.
[13:27] <Slart> tbergeron: well.. if the passwd binary fails for some reason I would guess the syslog.. possible kern.log
[13:27] <tiyowan> chocobanana: Agreed. But a systematic approach would help in solving the problem. :)
[13:27] <zortec> I really hope so.
[13:27] <tiyowan> tannersummers: So you did it huh? :)
[13:28] <chocobanana> tiyowan: either options are valid, let's wait and see the outcome of the first choice :)
[13:28] <wraith0x2b> tiyowan, I already had a linux installed, whit it's own grub and menu.lst. I installed ubuntu and grub reinstalled over my old one, so it gets it's files from my new ubuntu partition. if I decide to remove ubuntu I won't be able to boot again. so I want the old grub back. easy task?
[13:28] <tannersummers> tiyowan yup and school starts in less then 2 hours..screw that im sleeping all day haha brb guys thanks
[13:28] <nimrod> Hy! I need help whit Skype install on Ubuntu 9.04. I'v read posts on ubuntu forums, they say to install out of date version, and (...do this and that...)m but at first step I get - Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'... I'm realy satisfied whit ubuntu, but have issues to solve =) [like an ActionScript editor design for linux, no Wine tricks... but thats next step] - does this error have...
[13:28] <nimrod> ...something to do whit my CPU?
[13:28] <gorbierd> is there text editor that allow to choose character encoding?
[13:28] <tiyowan> chocobanana: Agreed.
[13:28] <chocobanana> tiyowan: it's a deal, lol
[13:28] <TheFunkbomb> I'll show you my partition lol
[13:28] <jophish> wraith0x2b, very easy, using a live cd
[13:29] <wraith0x2b> jophish, I can;t boot cd's. took me 2 hours to install ubuntu using casper :)
[13:29] <zortec> 12%.  It's going to be a good 15-20 mins.  I'll be back soon.
[13:29] <Weed37> hey guys my desktop has stopped doing effects and when i goto apperance in settings i get told unable to make changes   u got any ideas
[13:29] <tiyowan> wraith0x2b: Sure. As long as you haven't done anything to your old partitions, it should be easy enough to setup grub to boot into the old partitions.
[13:29] <wraith0x2b> I chrooted from ubuntu and will attempt a grub install
[13:29] <wraith0x2b> old partition is fine
[13:29] <Slart> gorbierd: several.. scite would be one, I think.. Editra too..you can probably make vim/emacs do it too but I have no idea how.. pressing a gazillion keys at once perhaps =)
[13:29] <wraith0x2b> editing menu.lst as we speak..to allow booting of ubuntu
[13:29] <xieles> hi there
[13:30] <xieles> I have installed wine in ubuntu
[13:30] <TheFunkbomb> this is how I have mine partitioned: http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2312/screenshotdevsdagparted.png
[13:30] <tiyowan> zortec: I'm going to go for a break now - you'll be around right?
[13:30] <xieles> My main aim is to install livezilla client in ubuntu
[13:30] <vk> what ?
[13:30] <tiyowan> xieles: Livezilla? What's that?
[13:30] <xieles> installatin went ok.. but I cannot open open live zilla
[13:31] <Weed37> hey guys my desktop has stopped doing effects and when i goto apperance in settings i get told unable to make changes   u got any ideas
[13:31] <zortec> tiyowan: I'll be around for a while.
[13:31] <xieles> Livezilla is a live chat program
[13:31] <Myrtti> nimrod: install from medibuntu if you need it
[13:31] <SirFunk_> is there debs for a 2.6.30 kernel in jaunty?
[13:31] <xieles> it is only available in exe format
[13:31] <G_A_C> SirFunk_, there's a PPA for "mainline" kernels I think, ie kernels with no Ubuntu mods
[13:31] <G_A_C> that PPA might well have some
[13:31]  * clocKwize would like a AWN system-tray applet that takes up one icon area for each icon in the tray (e.g. they don't look like tray icons at all, but seperate icons)
[13:32] <SirFunk_> G_A_C: i want the ubuntu mods :-P
[13:32] <G_A_C> then probably not, unless you feel like upgrading to the unstable version and it has the right version :)
[13:32] <nimrod>  <<< is googleing medibuntu....
[13:32] <SirFunk_> 9.10 will have 2.6.30 but i don't want to switch entirely to kermerik (or however you spell it)
[13:32] <tiyowan> xieles: Have you tried asking on the livezilla forums?
[13:32] <SirFunk_> is there any way to just upgrade the kernel to what's in unstable?
[13:33] <wraith0x2b> ok grub reinstalled from chroot...wish me luck :D
[13:33] <lyhana_8> hi, how could I know which line of the sources.list cause this error : http://pastebin.com/d392167d3
[13:33] <soulwarp1> Weed37: did you make changes to your graphics driver?
[13:33] <xieles> they do not provide anyinfo for installing it in linux machines..
[13:33] <G_A_C> there is, SirFunk_,with apt pinning (I think it's called)
[13:33] <wraith0x2b> and it boots :D
[13:33] <vk> hi
[13:33] <xieles> so i tried to install it using wine
[13:33] <G_A_C> try googling for "apt pinning" or something like that, but I probably wouldn't want to do it with something as core as the kernel
[13:33] <SirFunk_> G_A_C: ahh yes, that sounds familiar, i'll look into that
[13:34] <tiyowan> xieles: http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/Tanner2007/finally.pnghttp://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/Tanner2007/finally.png
[13:34] <tiyowan> xieles: Yikes. One moment, please.
[13:34] <tbergeron> Slart: nothing about passwd in both of these files :S
[13:34] <TheFunkbomb> well, I guess the good news is that even under 100% load, my CPU only gets up to 47c
[13:34] <tiyowan> xieles: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=737598 <- Livezilla + Linux - The thinking is to run it in a virtual machine in Linux.
[13:35] <Weed37> soulwarp1,  no i did not
[13:35] <Weed37> i am just strting out on linux
[13:35] <nimrod> but I still have an AMD64 x 2 ....    'dont get it...
[13:35] <TheFunkbomb> Weed37, what's the problem?
[13:35] <Weed37> hey guys my desktop has stopped doing effects and when i goto apperance in settings i get told unable to make changes   u got any ideas
[13:36] <mmm4m5m> Hi. Question please: Is there a shortcut for change current desktop? Something like Alt+Ctrl+[Arrow], but Alt+Ctrl+[1-9]?
[13:36] <Slart> tbergeron: and running "passwd" just does nothing.. doesn't return, doesn't give any error messages?
[13:36] <Weed37> that is TheFunkbomb
[13:36] <TheFunkbomb> Weed37, I see.  Go into System/Administration/Hardware Drivers.  You're using a Nvidia gpu, right?
[13:36] <scunizi> mmm4m5m: what you said... with the arrow
[13:36] <Weed37> yeah
[13:36] <wraith0x2b> where is the Cpu Frequency Panel Monitor?
[13:36] <Dawsey> Hey, do you guys know of a reason why my install of ubuntu 9.04 is freezing at random points during the install process, I've had install at 27%/34% and during the partion manager section.
[13:36] <Weed37> sec
[13:36] <wraith0x2b> nvm
[13:36] <Myrtti> mmm4m5m: you can remap them in your keyboard settings
[13:37] <TheFunkbomb> Weed37, go in there and make sure you're using the restricted drivers.
[13:37] <mmm4m5m> scunizi: thanks.. want to do it with one hand :). Myrtti: thanks, will check it.
[13:37] <tiyowan> Dawsey: Have you verified your CD?
[13:37] <Dawsey> tiyowan: Yes that passed without errors
[13:37] <tiyowan> Weed37: What is the exact msg you get?
[13:37] <Markeh> How can I stupidly increase the speed on-boot? :)
[13:37] <Weed37> unbale to make changes is the error
[13:38] <vk> hello
[13:38] <tiyowan> Dawsey: Have you tried googling for ubuntu support for your hardware?
 Weed37, go in there and make sure you're using the restricted drivers.     what u mean m8 ?
[13:38] <chocobanana> wraith0x2b: right click on the bottom or top panel and click Add..
[13:38] <wraith0x2b> yeah did that
[13:38] <scunizi> Markeh: turn off services you don't need in System/Admin/Services
[13:38] <TheFunkbomb> Weed37, did you go into hardware?
[13:38] <wraith0x2b> been years since I used ubuntu
[13:38] <Weed37> yeah i see 2 drivers
[13:38] <TheFunkbomb> Weed37, do you see one for your video card?
[13:38] <mmm4m5m> Myrtti: nice, thanks
[13:38] <Weed37> i
[13:38] <clocKwize> Markeh: put more ram in your system, a faster hard drive, a faster processor, then remove all modules and stuff that are being loaded that aren't needed, then use a light weight window manager, few start up apps etc