[01:12] <scoon> randabis, you know you can get help for your emerge problem.
[01:12] <Xappe> i think it is
[01:12] <universal> ye ok
[01:12] <universal> ok
[01:12] <scoon> randabis, i am a recovering emerge-a-holic and would be fine "sponsoring" you
[01:12] <randabis> scoon, I don't consider it a problem :p
[01:13] <scoon> randabis, anytime you feel like you want to kick that nasty habit, i will be here for you :)
[01:13] <tuppa> anyone having issues with text not displaying properly in GNOME/firefox on hoary?
[01:13] <universal> ...and then try theme-manager again to set the right icon-display
[01:13] <Killian> lol : recovering emerge-a-holic
[01:13] <randabis> remember I still use hoary too
[01:13] <zzyber> Killian, i have never used a mac since that day i couldnt get my floppy disc out.  :-)
[01:13] <scoon> as do i
[01:13] <kbrooks> I have a problem with ubuntu.
[01:13] <scoon> but i have found so many other things to do instead of emerging :)
[01:13] <kbrooks> I cannot start gnome, or fvwm. i even tried to upgrade to hoary yesterday, but that exited with a error
[01:14] <randabis> I just like the speed of my gentoo install :) overall I like ubuntu's way of doing things better than gentoo's
[01:14] <zzyber> Killian, i think my next computer will be a mac
[01:14] <kbrooks> HELP!
[01:14] <kbrooks> I cannot start gnome, or fvwm. i even tried to upgrade to hoary yesterday, but that exited with a error
[01:14] <scoon> kbrooks what is the err
[01:14] <randabis> does x even start?
[01:14] <kbrooks> scoon: i don't remember it. X starts
[01:15] <randabis> tried apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[01:15] <Killian> zzyber: i like the mac hardware side : plus the bsd base of OSX, but thats me.
[01:15] <scoon> kbrooks, hmmm.
[01:15] <kbrooks> but gnome popups a error message that i didnt fully see
[01:15] <randabis> oh
[01:15] <randabis> that error
[01:15] <kbrooks> it starts with 'I'
[01:15] <randabis> probably and x config problem
[01:15] <kbrooks> (in a dialog box)
[01:16] <randabis> try changing your xconfig's device driver to vesa and see if you can get in
[01:16] <zzyber> Killian, i read about bsd as base in osx and i must say i also like the idea, that is one thing why i will by myself a mac the next time
[01:16] <kbrooks> randabis: X STARTS!
[01:16] <kbrooks> randabis: don't assume!
[01:16] <randabis> kbrooks, still could be related to x config though
[01:16] <randabis> I've seen people with that problem
[01:16] <randabis> and a lot of times it was related to xconfig
[01:17] <kbrooks> with what problem
[01:17] <Killian> kbrooks: ive had that problem before; improper config in X
[01:17] <thomas__> hello, i've got a problem! i'm using the test release of ubuntu hoary and when i want to play a dvd in xine i don't have any sound! what could be the problem?
[01:17] <Killian> wont start up a WM at all :|
[01:17] <randabis> the thing where it logs you out of gdm for having a session of less than 10 seconds
[01:17] <kbrooks> randabis: i dont want vesa
[01:17] <martin> where is the search function in nautilus?
[01:17] <kbrooks> Killian: in my case, it starts up a wm
[01:17] <zzyber> now i remember.............!! I tried ubuntu some time ago but i couldnt get dvdrip to work, is that working now?
[01:18] <randabis> kbrooks, just try it and see if you can even get in a wm with it...you can always install an nvidia or ati driver, etc afterward
[01:18] <kalila> what's up with ubuntuguide.org?
[01:18] <kbrooks> linux_galor1: do you have proof to support what you are stating?
[01:18] <kalila> oh its up again
[01:18] <kalila> wasnt yesterday
[01:19] <randabis> most people say the opposite linux_galor1...the speed anyway
[01:19] <linux_galor1> kbrooks: used it and there are some recent benchmarks on OSX in fact one just a day ago
[01:19] <linux_galor1> sorry BSD not OSX
[01:19] <zzyber> linux_galor1, do you have a link?
[01:19] <kbrooks> linux_galor1: i wouldn't release my opinion on BSD, nor even  touch bsd with a 50-foot pole
[01:20] <kbrooks> if i were you
[01:20] <randabis> I have a freesbie livecd lol
[01:20] <linux_galor1> kbrooks: slashdot posted a article today/yesterday on benchmarking mysql on BSD/Linux/Solaris
[01:20] <randabis> I can't get networking working with it though so I don't use it much
[01:20] <zzyber> randabis, lol
[01:20] <linux_galor1> kbrooks: Linux kicked the crap out of all the BSD's
[01:21] <randabis> If I could figure out how to get networking working in freesbie I might actually use it a bit
[01:21] <linux_galor1> kbrooks: only thing that came near Linux was Solaris
[01:21] <tuppa> gah...
[01:21] <tuppa> seems like my problem is an nvidia driver issue :\
[01:21] <randabis> kbrooks, did you even TRY my suggestion? it can't hurt man...you can always switch back
[01:21] <zzyber> i tried gnoppix live cd and that is really nice based on ubuntu
[01:21] <randabis> yeah
[01:21] <jintxo> that xcompmgr stuff is pretty nice, any themes that go really well with it?
[01:21] <randabis> gnoppix and ubuntu devs are working together
[01:22] <Killian> i thought gnoppix was Debian : not ubuntu based :|
[01:22] <Killian> more apt-get, less gui
[01:22] <kbrooks> randabis: i will IF xfce doesnt even load and ONLY a error message displays THAT starts with 'I' (yes, I in caps)
[01:22] <zzyber> Killian, everyting is based on debian :-)
[01:22] <randabis> fair enough
[01:22] <Killian> lol zzyber
[01:22] <randabis> I'm just trying to help you
[01:23] <Killian> seems like its going that way, yes
[01:23] <albeerto> anyone awake at this time of night
[01:23] <randabis> yes
[01:23] <Killian> morning albeerto
[01:23] <stvn> night?
[01:23] <randabis> almost 6:30 am here
[01:23] <zzyber> middle of the day
[01:23] <albeerto> 23.23 here not quite morning
[01:23] <bumperland> is anyone having a problem with the multiverse in apt
[01:23] <Killian> 7:30 here
[01:24] <zzyber> 13:24
[01:24] <Killian> *am
[01:24] <Killian> not i bumperland
[01:24] <randabis> I kinda didn't go to sleep tonight
[01:24] <kbrooks> almost .... *looks*
[01:24] <ogra> zzyber: adjust your clock.... 13:24
[01:24] <linux_galor1> kbrooks: here we go look and weep -> http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/12/27/1243207
[01:24] <randabis> use ntpd :p
[01:24] <kbrooks> 7:24
[01:24] <ogra> zzyber: youre a minute ahead ;)
[01:24] <zzyber> ogra  :-)
[01:24] <kbrooks> linux_galor1: ok
[01:24] <randabis> use ntpd :p
[01:24] <bumperland> what is the address
[01:25] <randabis> hehe
[01:25] <Xappe> randabis, i most certainly did not. I sat here chatting with you guys, and then it was time to go to work
[01:25] <randabis> lol
[01:25] <randabis> ah emerge 68 of 100 lol
[01:25] <Xappe> and now it's 13.26 here
[01:25] <randabis> moving right a long
[01:25] <randabis> this would be much shorter had I not installed gnome
[01:26] <zzyber> randabis, are u installing gedit :-)
[01:26] <Killian> shoulda went xfce ;) randabis
[01:26] <randabis> Killian, I did actually..I have both
[01:26] <randabis> and fluxbox as well
[01:26] <Killian> haha...
[01:26] <scoon> randabis, check out openbox.
[01:26] <scoon> randabis, that w/ a perlpanel totally rocked.
[01:26] <randabis> zzyber, I think it is already compiled...not sure
[01:26] <Killian> i liked openbox
[01:26] <scoon> but pointless for a desktop
[01:26] <randabis> haha
[01:27] <randabis> I use xfce4.2 most of the time
[01:27] <scoon> i have 1 gig of ram, gnome isn't strapping me at all.
[01:27] <scoon> 4.2 is great.
[01:27] <randabis> I'm in gnome right now atm
[01:27] <Killian> xfce/openbox combo is what i ran under QuartzWM <aqua desktop> when OSX took a shat on me
[01:27] <randabis> I kinda wish gentoo's gnome was as good as ubuntu's :p
[01:28] <bumperland> does anyone have the address for multiverse
[01:28] <IamJacksUsername> Ubuntu 5.04 array 3.5 live CD i386: Created a folder called "suse" in /home/ubuntu and then ran "mount -r -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/suse/" which reports "mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /home/ubuntu/suse/ busy". I can't see hda1 in /mnt/ or (like my usb stick) on the desktop, and I don't know what the busy might mean. Is my mount command correct?
[01:28] <randabis> bumperland, http://archive.ubuntu.com
[01:28] <Gagatan> just add multiverse in addition to universe (if you mean apt-source)
[01:28] <scoon> Killian, that sounds like a nice combo
[01:28] <bumperland> yes
[01:29] <randabis> QuartzWM?
[01:29] <Killian> scoon, it was.  had to hand compile everything, but isnt that what bsd is for?
[01:29] <randabis> I must investigate!
[01:29] <randabis> is that ppc only?
[01:29] <Killian> randabis: Quartz is AKA : Aqua
[01:29] <mz2> how do i make qt apps use the kde theme i have set up?
[01:29] <Killian> OSX
[01:29] <randabis> damn :/
[01:29] <scoon> Killian, even now i do a fair amount of hand rolling
[01:29] <tuppa> gah
[01:29] <randabis> that would rock to use with xfce
[01:29] <tuppa> daniels not around :\
[01:30] <daniels> tuppa: trying not to be
[01:30] <tuppa> looks like I'll have to patch+build xorg-common manually :\
[01:30] <tuppa> ;)
[01:30] <randabis> daniel stone is probably taking a long deserved break
[01:30] <daniels> what for?
[01:30] <daniels> randabis: i wish
[01:30] <randabis> oh
[01:30] <vi11e> hey, if I want to mount a new ext drive I have created what should I type in fstab?
[01:30] <randabis> lol
[01:30] <tuppa> daniels: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2322 <- this patch in yet?
[01:30] <randabis> my bad
[01:30] <Killian> scoon: im basically just setup cuz OSX went Kabooom on me : waitin to buy it again :
[01:30] <Killian> i dont install much
[01:30] <scoon> Killian, purchase an os ?
[01:31] <scoon> yikes
[01:31] <tuppa> major PITA for amd64 nvidia people (like me) :P
[01:31] <randabis> tiger is supposed to rock :o
[01:31] <Killian> i went nutz on initial install
[01:31] <scoon> i bought redhat a couple of times for the boxes and bumperstickers.
[01:31] <randabis> haha
[01:31] <universal> when using  downloaded icons in ubuntu, were should i plave them?
[01:31] <scoon> i did buy my girl osx once.
[01:31] <Killian> yeah scoon, i'll pay for OSX
[01:31] <scoon> Killian, so did i.
[01:31] <randabis> my stepbro has a red hat sticker on his monitor
[01:31] <Killian> 5 luser license for 200$
[01:31] <universal> under /home/.themes=?
[01:31] <randabis> I used to have a suse linux sticker on my old case
[01:32] <Killian> ahh!~  RH?
[01:32] <randabis> suse is bleh though lol
[01:32] <randabis> so is rh
[01:32] <Killian> Yast is Cool tho
[01:32] <randabis> in THEORY only
[01:32] <daniels> tuppa: nope, sorry.  you can download that attachment and dump it in debian/patches after fixing the path to be xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common/xf86pciBus.c though, and debuild -us -uc
[01:32] <randabis> yast is poorly implemented
[01:32] <randabis> cool idea
[01:32] <randabis> but it sucks
[01:32] <daniels> tuppa: i won't get to doing 6.8.2-1 until about thursday or friday at this rate
[01:32] <Killian> i liked yast2
[01:32] <scoon> well i was running redhat 5.2 and then bought 6.1 or 6.3 or both
[01:32] <Xappe> universal: .icons in  your home
[01:32] <Killian> lol randabis
[01:32] <scoon> i don't remember
[01:33] <daniels> tuppa: ('that attachment' -> the simple fix with FIXED_X11R68x)
[01:33] <Killian> but debian was always king
[01:33] <randabis> Killian, well I haven't used it since suse 9, but I'm sure it still has some of the quirks the old yasts has had
[01:33] <Killian> for linux distros
[01:33] <randabis> the only distro I've bought was suse 8.2 pro
[01:33] <tuppa> daniels: no worries
[01:34] <randabis> I like suse better than rh too though
[01:34] <Killian> i paid for ubuntu and for Source-Mage
[01:34] <Killian> 1$
[01:34] <randabis> hehe
[01:34] <Killian> cuz i aint got a burner
[01:34] <pythonist> is there any openoffice2 package for ubuntu?
[01:34] <randabis> pythonist, only in hoary
[01:35] <pythonist> randabis: I'm using hoary
[01:35] <scoon> pythonist, and it works wonderfully.
[01:35] <randabis> pythonist, universe I think
[01:35] <randabis> might be in main now though
[01:35] <pythonist> randabis: let me check...
[01:35] <randabis> openoffice.org2 should be the package
[01:35] <pythonist> randabis, scoon: found, thank you...
[01:35] <randabis> you'll want to also install openoffice.org2-gnome so it doesn't look like ass
[01:36] <scoon> np
[01:36] <jintxo> anybody know why nautilus would say "applications:///" is not a valid location?
[01:36] <pythonist> randabis, scoon: I wasn't looking in the most obvious place :-)
[01:36] <kbrooks> wtf?
[01:36] <randabis> jintxo, because you're using hoary
[01:36] <randabis> and the way menus are done has been completely revamped
[01:36] <kbrooks> xfree wont fsckin install
[01:36] <randabis> kbrooks, sounds like your install may be borked in some way
[01:37] <kbrooks> i dont want to reinstall
[01:37] <kbrooks> but i have a idea
[01:37] <albeerto> basic question unbuntu box won't recognise a seagate tape drive!! any ideas
[01:37] <rubixXx> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xfree86 is broken or not fully installed
[01:37] <jintxo> randabis, should there be a place where I an tell it (or look at) what the valid locations are?
[01:38] <randabis> jintxo, you're not going to be able to use applications:/// anymore
[01:38] <randabis> there's no way around it
[01:38] <randabis> nothing you can do
[01:38] <jintxo> heh, that's cool
[01:39] <randabis> you're going to have to edit the xml files manually until a menu editor package is created and placed in the repos
[01:39] <jintxo> randabis, ok, fair enough :-)
[01:39] <jintxo> thanks
[01:41] <Xappe> randabis, heard something about a menu editor in xfce that woukd do the trick?
[01:42] <randabis> Xappe, yeah technically...forgot about that...haven't tried it but I've heard it works
[01:43] <Xappe> i've heard that too
[01:43] <Hwolf> Someone running Hoary here?
[01:43] <Hwolf> Someone running Hoary here?
[01:44] <linuxboy> Hwolf: no need to ask twice like that
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> Hwolf: yes
[01:44] <Killian> PPC SMP Warty here
[01:44] <Tsjoklate> what is Hoary
[01:44] <Hwolf> linuxboy, I bought a new keyboard, I tend to mistype a bit.
[01:44] <kbrooks> I'm reinstalling all the packages in the archives
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> Tsjoklate: next version of ubuntu, currently in develpoment
[01:45] <Tsjoklate> HrdwrBob :P
[01:45] <Hwolf> hrdwrBob, can you open firefox and select a bit of text with the mouse cursor? mine seems to skip the last chars of sentences on default.
[01:46] <Xappe> Hwolf, no, i'm running Hoary here
[01:47] <Hwolf> tsjoklate: Hoary is the development version of Ubuntu. It will be branded stable in april, Ubuntu 5.04 then.
[01:47] <Tsjoklate> ah.. seems I am on Hoary :)
[01:47] <thomas__> hi, i've got a problem: i'm running ubuntu hoary pre-release and i want to watch a dvd in xine, but it doesn't play the sound!
[01:47] <Tsjoklate> thanks peeps
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> Hwolf: seems to be fine, but this isn't 100% up to date
[01:47] <linuxboy> Hwolf: oic. I have that trouble too :)
[01:47] <Hwolf> thomas__: it defaults some sound mixer settings to muted. Open up the mixer controls and check if all is open.
[01:48] <Hwolf> linuxboy: I'll file a bug then.
[01:50] <Killian> its a good day for Guttermouth I think
[01:50] <Killian> yeah it is
[01:50] <thomas__> Hwolf, i can't turn up the sound in xine! other programs, such as rhythmbox, play the sound
[01:52] <Elephantman> hello
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> thomas__: if you 'killall esd'
[01:52] <kbrooks> :P
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> rhythmbox will stop working
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> but xine will work :)
[01:52] <kbrooks> huh
[01:52] <kbrooks> wtf is esd
[01:52] <Killian> sound driver kbrooks
[01:53] <Killian> last i knew/thought
[01:53] <Elephantman> is there the driver for dell's sound blaster live by default in ubuntu
[01:53] <Elephantman> emu10k1x
[01:53] <Elephantman> something like that
[01:54] <thomas__> HrdwrBoB, now it works, why that?
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> thomas__: 'esd' was using your sound device
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> it allows multiple devices to use the sound
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> but only if they have esd support
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> rhythmbox does (via gstreamer)
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> and so does totem (same)
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> xien does not
[01:55] <randabis> Killian, esd = enlightenment sound daemon
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> xine
[01:55] <Hwolf> thomas__ unfortunatly, xine isn't supported.
[01:55] <kbrooks> why?
[01:55] <Killian> ty randabis
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> Elephantman: yes, emu10k1 are good linux soundcards
[01:56] <randabis> sorry
[01:56] <Elephantman> yes but i need the emu10k1x driver
[01:56] <randabis> that was actually for kbrooks
[01:56] <Elephantman> is it in ubuntu
[01:56] <thomas__> ah, that means i can use rhythmbox an totem at the same time?
[01:56] <randabis> but if it helped you than fine
[01:56] <Killian> hehehee
[01:56] <Hwolf> thomas__ install totem-gstreamer and xine_ui and you can
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> Elephantman: hm.. I'm not sure
[01:56] <Killian> is totem gettin any better?
[01:56] <randabis> totem is great imho...with a xine backend
[01:56] <Hwolf> killian: totem isn't, gstreamer is.
[01:56] <Killian> i still stay away from Totem
[01:57] <Hwolf> Killian: the program is good, the gstreamer backend sucks.
[01:57] <randabis> hmm
[01:58] <thomas__> ah, thanks Hwolf
[01:58] <Killian> whats a good burning frontend
[01:58] <Killian> data or music :
[01:58] <randabis> I should probably boot hoary after this emerge -uDv --newuse world is finished and do an apt-get update && dist-upgrade
[01:58] <Killian> i have to hook this person from work up, and i dont have a burner so i never look
[01:58] <randabis> gnomebaker is nice
[01:59] <randabis> graveman is ok too
[01:59] <randabis> k3b is probably the most famous...but it uses qt :/
[01:59] <Elephantman> my dell french layout keyborad is not recognised correctly in hoary
[01:59] <randabis> qt gives me nightmares :p it takes FOREVER to compile it
[01:59] <Elephantman> is this know or does it deserve a report
[01:59] <jintxo> gxine sound works ok for me
[01:59] <apokryphos> randabis: isn't that a good thing? ;)
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> Killian: you can burn data using nautilus
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> Killian: and by the end of the weekend
[02:00] <apokryphos> Oh. You can always apt for it.
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> you will also be able to burn audio
[02:00] <randabis> apokryphos, I'm referring to gentoo though with that comment...compiling qt took forever :/
[02:00] <Killian> HrdwrBoB: its a warty install of ubuntu i have to go "assist" on
[02:01] <apokryphos> randabis: Ah, right. I'm sure it would. ;)
[02:01] <randabis> before you walked in I recommended gnomebaker and graveman as gtk+ alternatives
[02:01] <apokryphos> Gnomebaker...haha, what an excellent name. Never tried them; might check them out.
[02:01] <Killian> typical : i am always late for what i really need
[02:02] <zerotime> hile, i just did apt-get install msttcorefonts, but I dont see any change in my fonts, how do I enable them, I am using hoary with xorg
[02:02] <HrdwrBoB> Killian: ahr well yeah
[02:02] <randabis> Killian, there's a warty deb for gnomebaker out...I can fetch the link
[02:02] <zerotime> any help would be appreciated
[02:03] <kbrooks> heh
[02:03] <kbrooks> irssi is reloading
[02:03] <kbrooks> :P
[02:03] <Deschanel> I visted the Ubuntu 'ship it' website, and I read that the CDs I oredered are shipped on 1.02.2005 from the factory... So when should I expect them to be here?
[02:03] <randabis> next year
[02:03] <randabis> lol
[02:03] <zerotime> no one knows how to enable msttcorefonts?
[02:03] <randabis> seriously though...it might take a month or more
[02:03] <Killian> Deschanel: mine took Forever
[02:04] <randabis> zerotime, dunno...they "just worked" for me
[02:04] <Deschanel> Killian how long?
[02:04] <Killian> over 2 months Deschanel
[02:04] <Killian> i ordered 6 of them tho
[02:04] <Deschanel> k
[02:05] <zerotime> randabis, you have the same system as me?
[02:05] <Killian> i paid a buck for it off budgetlinuxcds.com
[02:05] <Killian> got here real quick
[02:06] <Deschanel> When newer versions of Ubuntu come out, can I order them too?
[02:06] <HrdwrBoB> Deschanel: yes
[02:07] <Deschanel> That's great, but I never find out, how can be great for the Ubuntu cmpany too!?
[02:07] <daniels> Deschanel: we're just generous :)
[02:07] <Deschanel> :)
[02:07] <Deschanel> unbelievable
[02:07] <Deschanel> but good, yeah...
[02:08] <randabis> daniels, I can't quite figure out how to/if it is even possible to order hoary cds yet. any idea?
[02:08] <zerotime> what are the names of the fonts that msttcorefonts install?
[02:08] <randabis> what I did temporarily was just put "I would like hoary cds please" in address line 2
[02:08] <randabis> lol
[02:09] <Tsjoklat> zerotime, verdana is one ariel is another
[02:09] <randabis> times new roman
[02:09] <randabis> lol
[02:09] <jintxo> zerotime, things like "comic sans" or "arial"
[02:09] <zerotime> yeah
[02:09] <Tsjoklat> trebuchet
[02:09] <zerotime> done, it works, I had only to restartx
[02:09] <randabis> heh
[02:09] <zerotime> thx, all
[02:09] <randabis> good
[02:10] <daniels> randabis: i think when you order on shipit, there's a radio button for warty or hoary, but can't really remember.  in any case, they're not getting shipped 'till april ...
[02:10] <zerotime> I installed kde for hoary, and although it comes with kcontrol, is not in the K menu, is this normal?
[02:10] <universal> it seems like i cant get my downloaded them-ikons inn funktion, why not?
[02:10] <fc_> What is a good DVD burn program? I want to burn movies on a RW
[02:11] <zerotime> k3b
[02:11] <kbrooks> i didnt see a button last time i ordered on shipit, daniels
[02:11] <linux_galor1> yeah cant go past k3b
[02:11] <universal> im try using the theme-manager but still i just get the windows and nothing more
[02:12] <randabis> daniels, there appears to be no such radio button
[02:12] <fc_> zerotime, if I install k3b, it installs kde things, I dont want kde things
[02:12] <randabis> and I'm aware of the not being shipped until april
[02:12] <godo> fc_,gnomebaker
[02:12] <linux_galor1> fc_: then you should have asked whats a good GTK based burner
[02:12] <randabis> I just wanna get them preordered so they'll be read to ship
[02:12] <daniels> randabis: ah well
[02:12] <fc_> I E: Couldn't find package gnomebaker
[02:12] <zerotime> gnomebaker?
[02:13] <daniels> randabis: i have no idea; it'll probably be announced when hoary ordering opens
[02:13] <zerotime> is that good?
[02:13] <linux_galor1> fc_: poke around www.freshmeat.net
[02:13] <fc_> I did
[02:13] <apokryphos> zerotime: I just tried it out. It seems reasonable
[02:13] <fc_> can't find anything
[02:13] <godo> apt-get install gnomebaker
[02:13] <linux_galor1> fc_: lol goto be kidding there are 2 pages of burners
[02:13] <zerotime> it not in the repositories
[02:13] <randabis> daniels, yeah. :p oh well...hopefully they READ my address line 2...it says I would like hoary cds please lol
[02:13] <fc_> E: Couldn't find package gnomebaker
[02:13] <apokryphos> zerotime: Whoops, no I didn't. I installed graveman.
[02:13] <zerotime> graveman?
[02:14] <fc_> godo, which source
[02:14] <daniels> randabis: er, that won't get read by anyone at ubuntu/canonical
[02:14] <apokryphos> Another GTK burner program
[02:14] <apokryphos> you can apt for it
[02:14] <randabis> daniels, good thing you told me
[02:14] <godo> google it
[02:14] <daniels> randabis: it will fail address verification by the shipping company, though, so your order will bounce back to us for clarification and might get delayed ... you might want to take that one out
[02:14] <randabis> now that I think of it it would just go to a database anyway
[02:14] <apokryphos> It's more basic than K3b -- not nearly as good, but it does basic stuff like audio/data/duplicate cd.
[02:14] <randabis> okay
[02:14] <linux_galor1> fc_: enjoy http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=burning+cd&section=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
[02:14] <haggai> zerotime: you need gnome-menus to be installed to get k menus (sorry a bug)
[02:14] <daniels> randabis: correct
[02:14] <zerotime> ok
[02:14] <godo> i dont know were i got it, fc_
[02:15] <zerotime> Dependency Tree... Done
[02:15] <zerotime> gnome-menus is already the newest version.
[02:15] <zerotime> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded.
[02:15] <zerotime>
[02:15] <zerotime> http://gnomebaker.sourceforge.net/
[02:15] <randabis> daniels well I guess if they send me warty cds that's not so bad...:/ I'll just make sure to order hoary ones too when I can
[02:16] <godo> look in sourceforge
[02:16] <randabis> I'll give you a link to gnomebaker debs
[02:16] <Tsjoklat> it's a nice set randabis
[02:16] <randabis> just a second
[02:16] <zerotime> gnomebaker is at warty repositories
[02:16] <zerotime> not in hoary
[02:17] <randabis> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GnomeBaker
[02:17] <zerotime> http://people.debian.org/~goedson/packages/debian/sid/gnomebaker/releases/i386/
[02:17] <randabis> the warty deb will work in hoary
[02:17] <randabis> I tried it
[02:17] <zerotime> hoary=sid?
[02:17] <randabis> no
[02:18] <linux_galor1> wonder if that have got Nautilus to burn DVD's yet
[02:18] <Tsjoklat> is there a way to turn automatically rate in rhythmbox?
[02:18] <randabis> hoary > sid
[02:18] <fc_> what was that command again, to install deb's,pkgd or something?
[02:18] <zerotime> yeah, thats what I meant
[02:18] <HrdwrBoB> linux_galor1: you can burn DVD's, just  only data dvds
[02:18] <zerotime> dpkg -i package.deb
[02:18] <randabis> correct
[02:18] <randabis> only 10 emerges left :p
[02:19] <linux_galor1> Ive got Vidalinux on my hackbox...way nicer than gentoo and has all the same emerge stuff
[02:20] <rubixXx> with dpkg-reconfigure how do you select resolutions without hitting enter
[02:20] <fc_> tab?
[02:21] <rubixXx> fc_, no i just need to know the key to add a resolution, tab just moves to ok
[02:21] <fc_> dunno
[02:21] <zzyber> does anyone use dvdrip on ubuntu?
[02:21] <kbrooks> rubixXx: down arrow key
[02:21] <kbrooks> >^>
[02:22] <kbrooks> oops

[02:22] <kbrooks> +
[02:22] <AngryClip> I have downloaded a gtk 2 theme for gnome, how do I install it? I have tried going using "gnome-control-centre --use-shell" selecting theme and used that dialog to install it but there is no change
[02:22] <randabis> linux_galor1, ugh vidalinux...:( I don't like it
[02:22] <kbrooks> AngryClip: did you select the theme?
[02:22] <kbrooks> randabis: why?
[02:22] <AngryClip> yeah
[02:23] <AngryClip> does it need to be in an folder somewhere?
[02:23] <linux_galor1> randabis: less hassle than Gentoo
[02:23] <randabis> it didn't detect my network ootb
[02:23] <kbrooks> did you press ok? did you confirm
[02:23] <AngryClip> I did
[02:23] <kbrooks> etc etc etc
[02:23] <AngryClip> it brings up a progress box
[02:23] <randabis> linux_galor1, gentoo's more fun though
[02:23] <AngryClip> that does it's thing
[02:23] <AngryClip> and then closes and nothing happens
[02:23] <linux_galor1> randabis: if you like pulling our hair out yes
[02:23] <AngryClip> or is added to the list
[02:23] <linux_galor1> your*
[02:23] <randabis> no
[02:24] <randabis> it just makes you think more
[02:24] <linux_galor1> randabis: got books for that
[02:24] <randabis> vida felt slower to me too and I didn't like the layout, etc...I think they made gnome all screwy and clunky
[02:25] <randabis> it is a good idea though
[02:25] <randabis> I'll give it that much
[02:25] <randabis> but my stage 1 gentoo install pwns it :p
[02:25] <randabis> wasn't hard to do at all
[02:25] <randabis> anyway, getting off-topic
[02:26] <kbrooks> OK. I
[02:26] <kbrooks> uh oh
[02:26] <kbrooks> gr
[02:26] <kbrooks> sounds like my cd is damaged
[02:26] <randabis> yeah that's kinda what I was thinking :/
[02:26] <kbrooks> i get errors in the background
[02:26] <kbrooks> brb
[02:26] <randabis> you could try to reinstall ubuntu-base
[02:26] <randabis> from the net
[02:27] <kbrooks> randabis: i think i fixed my prob. i'm in gnome in another tty
[02:27] <randabis> cool
[02:27] <kbrooks> randabis: installation over the warty packages did that :P
[02:28] <randabis> ah
[02:28] <kbrooks> cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ && dpkg -i --force-overwrite *.deb
[02:28] <randabis> hehe
[02:28] <kbrooks> whats funny
[02:29] <AngryClip> ok my system is really really slow (it's only a PIII500), is there anyway to disable some of the gnome eye candy or effects, or is there some services/processes running that it is safe to disable (e.g. all the printing ones etc)
[02:30] <linux_galor1> AngryClip: how much ram
[02:31] <randabis> oh nothing...just gcc
[02:31] <randabis> it was funnier when gcc was compiling itself
[02:31] <AngryClip> erm 192 I think
[02:31] <AngryClip> or 256
[02:31] <AngryClip> something low like that
[02:31] <linux_galor1> AngryClip: plenty
[02:32] <linux_galor1> AngryClip: I found compiling the kernel was a good idea
[02:32] <randabis> AngryClip, you could try a lighterweight wm
[02:32] <AngryClip> I am looking at xfce
[02:32] <randabis> I recommend xfce
[02:32] <linux_galor1> yeah XFCE4 is a life saver
[02:32] <randabis> heh good
[02:32] <AngryClip> and I will probably compil a new kernel actully
[02:32] <randabis> 4.2 is even better
[02:33] <rubixXx> how can you get a 5 button iexplore to work with ubuntu (will i have to manually edit the config file?)
[02:33] <randabis> it's a little heavier than 4.0.6 I "think"
[02:33] <AngryClip> I am sure I read somewhere
[02:33] <AngryClip> that recompiling the kernel means that I have to reinstall the nvidia drivers
[02:33] <AngryClip> is that correct?
[02:33] <randabis> more than likely
[02:34] <ultrahex> hello
[02:34] <randabis> especially if you compile a newer kernel than the running kernel
[02:34] <linux_galor1> rubix edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config  file
[02:36] <universal> someone who wants to help me, get my dvd-player in funktion with Xine?
[02:36] <linux_galor1> rubix http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=46
[02:37] <AngryClip> would it be wise to install xfce first, or compile a new kernel first?
[02:38] <universal> randabis,  wants to help me, get my dvd-player in funktion with Xine?
[02:38] <marcin_ant> any eclipse or java user here?
[02:38] <randabis> universal, you need libdvdcss2
[02:38] <linux_galor1> heres a howto aimed at the iexplorer mouse http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/g/c/gca101/linux_howtos/intellimouse.html
[02:38] <universal> ok, so actually i can apt-get install libdvdcss2?
[02:40] <godo> univesal, look for instructions in ubuntuguide.org
[02:41] <universal> randabis, i try to apt get the libdvdcss2, but it says dependecies libxine0
[02:44] <vi11e> Hey do you know if I can simply resize my ext3 partition that has my ubuntu OS ? if I enlarge it
[02:45] <IamJacksUsername> Ubuntu 5.04 array 3.5 live CD i386: Created a folder called "suse" in /home/ubuntu and then ran "mount -r -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/suse/" which reports "mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /home/ubuntu/suse/ busy". I can't see hda1 in /mnt/ or (like my usb stick) on the desktop, and I don't know what the busy might mean. Is my mount command correct?
[02:45] <mz2> how do i unpack every tar.gz in a folder? tar xzvf *.tar.gz won't do it
[02:46] <mz2> i know how i'd do that with a few lines of bash script but there's got to be a way to do that just with tar?
[02:50] <fc_> I want to burn a dvd movie, how?
[02:50] <apokryphos> mz2: couldn't you use find and -exec for it?
[02:50] <fc_> gnomebaker sucks
[02:50] <apokryphos> mz2: Can probably do it with one line, I should think.
[02:52] <Pointwood> I just installed mplayer, but when I try to start it (from the console) I get this:
 Reading config file /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
 Illegal instruction
[02:53] <mz2> ah, of course...
[02:53] <apokryphos> :)
[02:54] <rapha> Anybody got bootsplash working?
[02:54] <Golfer> nope
[02:55] <HrdwrBoB> rapha: it will be working soon
[02:55] <kent> Didn't some people work on this usplash-thing instead of bootsplash?
[02:55] <HrdwrBoB> kent: it's in development atm
[02:56] <fc_> how can I burn dvd's without k3b?
[02:56] <kerignell> pls have a look :) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15137
[02:57] <apokryphos> Don't people need KDE stuff sooner or later? What mp3 player do Gnome-ers use? xmms?
[02:57] <AngryClip> try zinf
[02:58] <apokryphos> you guys are missing out ;)
[02:58] <vi11e> is it safe to resize my ext partition that is running ubuntu?
[02:58] <Killian> i use xchat : xmms works for me :|   its just one of those things
[02:58] <Pointwood> I tried to use Rhythmbox, but it's just not quite ready for prime time
[02:59] <Pointwood> I also tried Juk, but that just eats more and more memory and 100% CPU time when I try to play a music file
[02:59] <AngryClip> oh thats weird my sound just started working
[02:59] <AngryClip> how funky
[02:59] <AngryClip> I really need a new sound card, this one is hammered
[02:59] <AngryClip> is there an externel usb reccomended that nix compatible?
[03:00] <HrdwrBoB> I would recommend to never ever ever use a usb soundcard
[03:00] <AngryClip> well
[03:00] <AngryClip> I have 5.1 speakers, and my laptop doesn't have 5.1 soundcard
[03:00] <AngryClip> so if I get usb
[03:01] <AngryClip> I can use for both my laptop and my desktop
[03:01] <HrdwrBoB> if you are at your desktop which has 5.1 sound
[03:01] <HrdwrBoB> why would you want to unplug it and use your laptop
[03:01] <rubixXx> does ubuntu load .Xmodmap file or .xinit
[03:01] <AngryClip> because my laptop is much faster than my desktop
[03:02] <AngryClip> and can play games
[03:02] <fc_> HOW DO I BURN A FUCK DVD
[03:02] <fc_> *fucking
[03:02] <HrdwrBoB> well usb sound cards are all pretty much equivalent, you can however get a soundblaster in PCMCIA form
[03:02] <HrdwrBoB> with an external breakout box
[03:03] <daniels> fc_: watch your language.
[03:03] <AngryClip> external breakout box?
[03:03] <rubixXx> fc_, so lets come in here and talk in all caps and be rude and expect help
[03:03] <HrdwrBoB> AngryClip: yeah, a box with all the connections on it that connects using a special connector to the card
[03:03] <daniels> hypn0_: late next week.
[03:03] <daniels> er
[03:03] <daniels> Hymie: late next week.
[03:03] <fc_> rubixXx, I asked 3 times, no one answers
[03:04] <fc_> I just need a good DVD burning program
[03:04] <AngryClip> I see
[03:04] <HrdwrBoB> fc_: what sort of dvd do you want to burn
[03:04] <Hymie> daniels: ok ;)  just wondering, I have 64bit pcie probs ;)
[03:04] <Golfer> fc_ have you tried k3b
[03:04] <Hymie> daniels: hey, do you know if 6.8.2 has evdev support?
[03:04] <fc_> an RW, I want to burn a movie on it
[03:04] <AngryClip> but that wouldn't help me with my desktop sound
[03:04] <fc_> Golfer, ubuntu has gnome, not kde
[03:04] <AngryClip> would it?
[03:04] <daniels> Hymie: ah, that wonderful bug.  and, um, 6.8.1 has evdev support ...
[03:04] <fc_> if you instakk k3b it also instals kde, i dont want kde
[03:04] <Golfer> my gnome/hoary also has k3b
[03:05] <fc_> how?
[03:05] <Hymie> daniels: the version I compiled didn't seem to have it (although I realise your patches on 6.8.1 may have)
[03:05] <HrdwrBoB> fc_: unfortunately gnome does not yet have a full featured DVD/CD burner program
[03:05] <bsd3> hi, friends!
[03:05] <Golfer> fc_  do you know what synaptic is ?
[03:05] <fc_> yes
[03:05] <Hymie> daniels: I'm itching to get my 10 button mouse going ;)
[03:05] <Golfer> well check there
[03:06] <bsd3> how do i verify files installed by all the packages?
[03:06] <fc_> Golfer, if I want to install k3b, it installs KDE
[03:06] <daniels> Hymie: yeah, the debian patches on top of 6.8.1 do, neither released 6.8.1 nor 6.8.2 have it
[03:07] <apokryphos> fc_: Are you low on space?
[03:07] <fc_> I installed kde before on ubuntu, and it fucks up gnome
[03:07] <fc_> no
[03:07] <Golfer> fc_ if you say sp
[03:07] <fc_> I installed kde before on ubuntu, and it fucks up gnome
[03:07] <Golfer> so
[03:07] <Hymie> daniels: arg, I'm surprised that 6.8.2 didn't include evdev
[03:07] <apokryphos> Why would you not want to install KDE then? It opens up the possibility of having a plethora of other programs.
[03:07] <HrdwrBoB> fc_: that should not happen, what exactly happenes
[03:08] <bsd3> anyone out there a dpkg guru, please?
[03:08] <apokryphos> It certainly shouldn't happen. I've got KDE installed; I tried Gnome a few times, and it's working just as smoothly as could be expected.
[03:08] <fc_> hm
[03:08] <Hymie> fc_: perhaps you should more clearly define your angst with gnome and kde
[03:08] <Coily> has ubuntu released a fix for the fx vulnerability yet
[03:08] <Coily> idn*
[03:08] <apokryphos> :P
[03:09] <bsd3> LinuxJones: hi, there!
[03:09] <daniels> Hymie: why would it?  it's just a bugfix release, not a feature release
[03:09] <Hymie> daniels: you mean someone actually knows the difference? ;)
[03:10] <daniels> Hymie: sadly not as much as I'd hoped
[03:10] <apokryphos> bsd3: What is it you're trying to do? You'll probably have more luck in #debian, but it's worth asking.
[03:10] <Hymie> daniels: sometimes, the only problem with open sauce, is that it moves too fast ;)
[03:11] <LinuxJones> bsd3, hi sorry I was afk :)
[03:11] <rubixXx> this is strange
[03:11] <rubixXx> the xchat .deb file didn't contain icons :-(
[03:12] <bsd3> LinuxJones: I actually wanted to check/verify all files installed by all the packages
[03:12] <gholmer> I'm unable to install Ubuntu on a ThinkPad with a HPA (host protected area) on the disk (disabled, with partitions in it). Any known workarounds?
[03:13] <LinuxJones> bsd3, I am not 100% sure what you want to do :(
[03:14] <LinuxJones> bsd3, you want to make sure you have all packages installed ?
[03:15] <bsd3> LinuxJones: it like we can test the integrity of installed packages with rpm --verify
[03:15] <LinuxJones> bsd3, oh like md5 checksum on the packages ?
[03:15] <godo> dpkg -l
[03:17] <gholmer> testing, 1,2,3...
[03:17] <Killian> houston : we read ya
[03:17] <godo> bsd3, dpkg -l  ?
[03:18] <gholmer> heh, sorry, long time since I used IRC :)
[03:18] <Hymie> bsd3: debsums - Verify installed package files against MD5 checksums.
[03:18] <Hymie> not sure if it is in #ubuntu, that's debian proper
[03:19] <Hymie> bsd3: note that not all packages have checksum information etiher (at least, again, not in debian proper).  Not sure what ubuntu's policy is
[03:20] <binks> hi peeps
[03:20] <LinuxJones> binks, good morning
[03:21] <binks> mornin to u too sir (well afternon here buy lol)
[03:21] <speel> i dont think it morning in uk lol
[03:21] <binks> can someone hlpme install sdl
[03:21] <LinuxJones> It's 10:21 am here :D
[03:21] <binks> i have ./configure but when i make it errors
[03:22] <Xappe> speel, that depends on when you get out of bed :P
[03:22] <Anubis> lets try this again
[03:22] <Anubis> hdparm at boot
[03:22] <Anubis> I need dma on my cdroms @boot
[03:22] <Golfer> LinuxJones where are you from?
[03:22] <LinuxJones> binks, sdl is available as a download via apt
[03:22] <CAPTAIN_RON> LinuxJones must be in coooold nort land
[03:22] <LinuxJones> Golfer, Nova Scotia, Canada
[03:23] <CAPTAIN_RON> BRRRRR
[03:23] <andrewski> anyone have trouble with /dev/cdrom missing in hoary?
[03:23] <andrewski> mmm, cold. :)
[03:23] <Golfer> ahh Ontario here
[03:23] <Anubis> andrewski, YES!
[03:23] <LinuxJones> CAPTAIN_RON, it's not too bad, -2 here today :D
[03:23] <Hymie> it's been a very warm winter
[03:23] <andrewski> Anubis: i have to add it every time i boot; is there a way around that?
[03:23] <Hymie> it should be -40C here right now, it's -10
[03:23] <CAPTAIN_RON> Soth Florida here .... wish you guys wouldkeep the cold up there
[03:24] <Anubis> andrewski, I'm looking, I understand there is an issue with the udev package, for all ldistros?
[03:24] <Killian> lol Capn'Ron
[03:24] <CAPTAIN_RON> 45% here
[03:24] <LinuxJones> CAPTAIN_RON, you can have your warm weather & hurricanes :D
[03:24] <andrewski> Anubis: i didn't have this trouble in gentoo; it remembered the links i created manually.
[03:24] <CAPTAIN_RON> Hurricane central is where I live
[03:25] <bascule> that was devfs then
[03:25] <bascule> /lib/dev-state
[03:25] <Anubis> andrewski, I wa thinking the same, Gentoo is not broken though, I at least am using broken Hoary
[03:25] <andrewski> yeah, me too.
[03:25] <LinuxJones> CAPTAIN_RON, I have been in a class 2 hurricane I was scared to death :D
[03:25] <CAPTAIN_RON> ME TOO
[03:25] <rapha> Can a preempt kernel cause random segfaults and filesystem corruption?
[03:26] <bascule> CAPTAIN_RON: USE AOL BY CHANCE
[03:26] <bascule> <-- bad mood
[03:26] <Xappe> we don't have hurricanes in sweden, so I win
[03:26] <CAPTAIN_RON> We got hit at ground zero by two and then one more just for fun
[03:26] <daniels> (off-topic)
[03:26] <CAPTAIN_RON> No AOL
[03:28] <Killian> andrewski: is the cdrom listed in a :pico /etc/fstab ?
[03:28] <Killian> or editor of choice?
[03:28] <CAPTAIN_RON> Got to go now... I smell the bacon and I think I will sneak a piece
[03:28] <binks> i have at installed sd but still get this error when i try to make everball
[03:28] <andrewski> Killian: yes, as /dev/hdc, but not as /dev/cdrom.
[03:28] <binks> cc -Wall -O3 -ansi -I/usr/include/SDL -D_REENTRANT -Ishare -o share/vec3.o -c share/vec3.c
[03:28] <binks> make: cc: Command not found
[03:28] <binks> make: *** [share/vec3.o]  Error 127
[03:29] <LinuxJones> binks, install build-essential
[03:29] <Rocha> gstreamer-mad is what i have to install to use mp3 in rhythmbox right?
[03:30] <binks> hmm forgot that bit just reinstalled
[03:30] <LinuxJones> Rocha, gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:31] <Killian> andrewski: just thought i'd check :S
[03:31] <andrewski> Killian: ;P
[03:31] <Rocha> LinuxJones, thanks
[03:31] <andrewski> Killian: would it help if i listed it as /dev/cdrom?  i.e. would udev 'remember' that link?
[03:32] <Rocha> LinuxJones, i'm still downloading the package list (26min remaining)
[03:32] <LinuxJones> Rocha, :)
[03:32] <Killian> andrewski: mines at /dev/hdc   /media/cdrom0
[03:33] <andrewski> Killian: yeah, mine too, but all the apps i actually use look for it at /dev/cdrom. :)
[03:34] <Killian> hmm:  is it just a cdrom?
[03:34] <andrewski> dvd too.
[03:34] <Rocha> LinuxJones, dialup sucks ;)
[03:35] <LinuxJones> Rocha, I remember those days back in 1995 :)
[03:35] <LinuxJones> OMG 10 years
[03:36] <Xappe> yes, time flies when you're downloading
[03:42] <rubixXx> how do you install a local .deb file
[03:43] <rubixXx> dpkg -i?
[03:43] <Xappe> dpkg -i <packagename>
[03:44] <binks> linuxjones ur a star m8 now i can loose me marble and prob be ill lol
[03:46] <LinuxJones> binks, :D
[03:46] <binks> bbl soccer on in a mo
[03:51] <NetwrkMonkey> Will it be easy to upgrade to hoary once it comes out and is deemed stable? without any show stopping problems?
[03:51] <NetwrkMonkey> most of the time i wipe clean before i do my clean installs, but i'm getting tired of that
[03:51] <rapha> Well, until now the updates have always worked
[03:51] <vjaz> It's easy to upgrade to hoary right now, so I guess it'll still be pretty easy after it's stable.
[03:52] <Rocha> i have hoary array-2 installed and it's working fine
[03:53] <rapha> Otherwise I'd agree; this has never worked with any other distro for me before.
[03:53] <rapha> apt-get magic...
[03:53] <polli> in what package is the C-man files?
[03:53] <Rocha> i'm just trying to install the mp3 codecs for gstreamer
[03:53] <Rocha> btw, can i watch dvds with gstreamer?
[03:53] <Rocha> in warty i had to install totem-xine
[03:54] <Ex-Cyber> what can I do if my monitor image is too dim even with brightness set to maximum?
[03:54] <vjaz> Rocha, There's gstreamer-dvd... haven't tried that though
[03:54] <Ex-Cyber> aside from buying a new monitor, which isn't in the budget atm :P
[03:55] <kerignell> Ex-Cyber: get a flashlight? :P
[03:55] <Coily> i just did a smart upgrade and now theres a dupe ubuntu in my mbr, anyone know whats going on?
[03:55] <Ex-Cyber> kerignell: a CRT is a light source, I don't think external illumination will have the desired effect :)
[03:55] <Rocha> vjaz, thanks, i hope it doesn't take half an hour to download like gstreamer-mad
[03:57] <WillCooke> Ex-cyber, What video card are you using?
[03:57] <Ex-Cyber> WillCooke: Radeon 8500 (with xorg driver)
[03:58] <linuxboy> How do I play DivX files in Ubuntu?
[03:58] <bzbb> if  I have a list of files, and I want to run mp3gain on them, what would I do?
[03:58] <mjr> linuxboy, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:58] <Coily> no one?
[03:59] <Anubis> You don't have a /dev/cdrom device.
[03:59] <Anubis> why?
[04:00] <WillCooke> Ex-Cyber:   Are you running Xorg or XFree86?  If you're running XFree you might be able to get the ATI application running (like in windows) which would allow you to change the brightness etc that the card puts out, it might give it enough of a boost to make it viewable.  Is the monitor OK on other systems?
[04:00] <Ex-Cyber> WillCooke: not really in a position to test it on other systems at the moment
[04:00] <linuxboy> mjr: do I need mplayer?
[04:01] <Ex-Cyber> however I didn't notice it happening when I briefly had Windows on this one
[04:01] <Ex-Cyber> so I wouldn't be surprised if it is the card
[04:01] <Rocha> what is the name of the program that creates the drop shadows in xorg?
[04:02] <Rocha> linuxboy, mplayer sucks, use totem
[04:02] <eruin> damn
[04:02] <eruin> latest hoary apache breaks php / pcre
[04:02] <linuxboy> Rocha: i cant get it to work with divx files
[04:02] <mjr> Rocha, (x)compmgr or something
[04:03] <BiteMeBill> linuxboy: what about ogle?
[04:03] <linuxboy> Rocha: i installed w32codecs, but totem cant play divx files
[04:03] <mjr> linuxboy, install totem-xine
[04:03] <mjr> and no, the ubuntu-desktop thing isn't critical
[04:03] <Anubis> You don't have a /dev/cdrom device.
[04:04] <linuxboy> mjr: so... i need w32codecs and totem-xine to play divx files?
[04:04] <rapha> Not w32codecs
[04:04] <mjr> totem-xine did it for me on amd64
[04:04] <mjr> without the w32 stuff
[04:04] <WillCooke> Ex-Cyber:  Hmmm.  I would suspect the drivers.
[04:04] <mjr> *shrug*
[04:04] <linuxboy> where do i get totem-xine from? what source?
[04:05] <mjr> linuxboy, from ubuntu universe
[04:05] <linuxboy> mjr: so.... totem-xine will give me divx. What about dvd?
[04:05] <mjr> linuxboy, you need the libdvdcss stuff mentioned on the page
[04:06] <mjr> after that, AFAIK totem should do that too
[04:06] <mjr> haven't tried it myself
[04:06] <Anubis> broken rom device symlinks anybody?
[04:06] <rubixXx> anyone know how to install crossover office from a .deb file i'm having problems with it
[04:07] <Rocha> linuxboy, yup, install totem-xine, that's what i did
[04:07] <amd> do these images have working Gnome environment or not? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/
[04:08] <rapha> Sure do
[04:08] <amd> the package list doesn
[04:08] <Ex-Cyber> WillCooke: that's what I meant, that the card was configured to output a dimmer image... guess I didn't word that so well :P
[04:08] <amd> the package list doesn't show any Gnome packages
[04:08] <Ex-Cyber> I don't see any options in the radeon manpage to change it though
[04:08] <rapha> Well, "working", that's of course not guaranteed since they are, after all, untested daily images. But they do have GNOME installed, yes.
[04:09] <amd> oki.. I just want to test translations...
[04:09] <amd> thx
[04:09] <Ex-Cyber> actually, the xorg.conf manpage seems to suggest that the gamma-correction value is applied in the driver, so maybe that does it
[04:11] <abi_> hi
[04:11] <WillCooke> Ex-Cyber:  Sorry - beyond me now!
[04:12] <abi_> i need help, everytime i try to play mp3 files with tythmbox y get: "There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg."
[04:12] <drqk_> how do i neble php in apache?
[04:12] <LinuxJones> abi_, www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:13] <Anubis> what happened to /dev/cdrom?
[04:13] <Anubis> what happened to /dev/cdroms/cdrom0?
[04:13] <abi_> LinuxJones, what do i need to find there?
[04:13] <Anubis> what happened to /dev/dvd?
[04:14] <LinuxJones> abi_, it's a guide that answers your question
[04:15] <universal> could someone tell me what to do when Xine cannot open DVD? : it says cannoet find MRL (dvd:/
[04:15] <abi_> LinuxJones, i'll read it
[04:16] <Anubis> symlinks?
[04:16] <Anubis> anybody?
[04:16] <cindux> hey all
[04:16] <Anubis> All CD-ROMs, whether SCSI, IDE or whatever, are placed under the /dev/cdroms hierarchy:
[04:16] <Anubis> its not there
[04:18] <kent> Anubis, dont the cd's get mounted automatic when you insert them? I belive it uses udev, so on insert.. it should work automatic,
[04:18] <hybrid> hello
[04:18] <universal> Anubis, could someone tell me what to do when Xine cannot open DVD? : it says cannoet find MRL (dvd:
[04:20] <Juice-> hey, is there any app in ubuntu like apt-get
[04:20] <Juice-> to get new packages
[04:20] <LinuxJones> Juice-, there is apt-get
[04:20] <Juice-> oh
[04:20] <Juice-> cool
[04:20] <LinuxJones> heh
[04:20] <Juice-> :)
[04:21] <Juice-> (Im a newbie in linux)
[04:21] <LinuxJones> Juice-, synaptic gui front end is installed by default as well
[04:21] <Juice-> Atleast semi-newbie
[04:21] <Juice-> Nice
[04:21] <sittisal> oh my god this ubuntu is great!
[04:21] <sittisal> i switched from debian sarge to ubuntu in my notebook...
[04:21] <LinuxJones> Juice-, you'll probably want to add the universe repository for additional software goodies
[04:22] <Juice-> ok
[04:22] <abi_> LinuxJones, ok, i've installed multimedia codecs: gstreamer0.8-plugins, now i listen mp3 files
[04:22] <abi_> LinuxJones, thanks
[04:22] <LinuxJones> abi_, NP :)
[04:23] <abi_> LinuxJones, and now, to play mp4 files from itunes?
[04:23] <Juice-> Is there a way i could switch the used language?
[04:23] <drqk_> how do i neble php in apache?
[04:23] <chromate> when configuring /etc/network/interfaces for logical interfaces, what is the easiest way to check simply if a wireless network exists?
[04:24] <Anubis> universal, I'm in sorta the same boat
[04:24] <Anubis> messed up rom symlinks
[04:25] <LinuxJones> Juice-, you can switch at the GDM login screen under the session menu I think.
[04:25] <Juice-> LinuxJones: Any suggestions, to how i can change the language ubuntu shows all in? I didnt chose english in the install, but i'd like english now
[04:25] <andrewski> chromate: iwconfig?
[04:25] <Juice-> Oh ok, i'll check
[04:26] <cindux> Juice
[04:26] <Juice-> Yes cindux
[04:26] <cindux> I understand your a newb & well I am to mostly :P
[04:26] <andrewski> Juice-: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[04:26] <cindux> if your interested in lesrning the "shell"
[04:26] <Juice-> Ok =)
[04:26] <cindux> which of course almost all linux users use
[04:26] <cindux> check this site out
[04:26] <chromate> andrewski: i'm configuring multiple logical interfaces for one physical interface; during the process of it automatically deciding which one to use, it needs to know if a wireless network exists. i cant really use iwconfig for that
[04:26] <cindux> http://www.linuxcommand.org
[04:26] <andrewski> chromate: oh, sorry; i have no idea. :)
[04:27] <chromate> andrewski: thanks anyway =)
[04:27] <Juice-> cindux: Thanks, i'll read on it
[04:27] <tritium> Anubis, you never answered me last night.  Did you edit /etc/hdparm.conf?  Did it help?
[04:28] <andrewski> is there any documentation on configuring boot services?  i'd like to figure out how to administer different runlevels and to see which services are running at any given time.
[04:28] <lifeless> hi, I've tried rolling my own kernel, to add in fuse support, but it fails to read the root on boot. its got an initrd, which looks correct ...
[04:28] <lifeless> any pointers ?
[04:29] <tritium> andrewski, "man update-rc.d", and the Debian Policy Manual
[04:29] <LinuxJones> andrewski, update-rc.d
[04:29] <andrewski> tritium: thanks!
[04:29] <tritium> yep :)
[04:29] <andrewski> tritium: on the latter, why is there no ubuntu equivalent to much debian documentation?
[04:30] <lifeless> For the curious, I've cross hcecked what I'm doing against hte howto, and it looks good. I didn't have this problem in debian, except whent he cramfs patch wasn't applied for some reason.
[04:30] <tritium> andrewski, debian is over 10 years old.  ubuntu documentation is just starting up
[04:30] <lifeless> AFAICT the buntu kernels come pre-patched, so I'm presuming thats not the problem.
[04:30] <lifeless> *ubuntu*
[04:30] <tritium> andrewski, and in many cases, the debian documentation is sufficient
[04:30] <andrewski> tritium: ah.  and can i assume, when i'm referred to debian docs, that everything therein applies?
[04:31] <tritium> andrewski, for the most part.  I'm sure there are exceptions.
[04:31] <andrewski> ok.
[04:32] <tritium> I'll be back
[04:32] <lamont> lifeless: linux-source-2.6.10, add your patch there, and say 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot'
[04:32] <lamont> or figure out the incantation that debian/rules is doing to build just one binary
[04:33] <tritium> okay
[04:33] <hikaru79> Where can I get the latest HOARY ISO?
[04:33] <chromate> when configuring /etc/network/interfaces for multiple logical interfaces, the result of which to be determined by some mapping scheme, is it possible to set an interface to stop, and not go up?
[04:33] <lifeless> lamont: 'make-kpkg'
[04:33] <tritium> Anubis, ???
[04:33] <lifeless> lamont: which is what our official Ubuntu doco says to use :)
[04:33] <Rocha> Where can I get libdvdcss2? From multiverse?
[04:33] <lamont> lifeless: ok.
[04:33] <universal> Anubis, ohhh, thats not good, but would you tell me when the problem is fixed?
[04:34] <hikaru79> Rocha, no
[04:34] <hikaru79> I think you have to get the merillat repository
[04:34] <lifeless> lamont: yah, thanks for trying though ;)
[04:34] <lifeless> I think I will have to fly east a little and beat up fabbioe
[04:34] <lifeless> *fabbione*
[04:34] <zul> lifeless: check http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelBuildpackageDetailedHowto if you just want to build for your arch
[04:34] <lifeless> this lag is killing me
[04:35] <jesse_132> I've gotten my bluetooth mouse to work, but when I try to use my apple bluetooth keyboard I get "Cannot create HID channel: "  then permission denied or feature not implimented ...  any clues?
[04:35] <delphi> any ideas why the latest hoary live cd boots into a 640x480 gui on nvidia hardware, and then won't let you change the resolution?
[04:36] <lifeless> zul - thats an interesting page.
[04:36] <lifeless> zul: makes me wonder why we have two completely different ways to build kernels :)
[04:37] <zul> lifeless: i use that when im building a kernel
[04:40] <tritium> lifeless, back when I used to need to build kernels, I always used the debian way.
[04:40] <tritium> But I don't need custom kernels anymore.
[04:40] <phr0stbyte> When trying to burn a DVD through Gnome burn, my media is seen as a regular blank CD - Anyone know what is wrong?
[04:41] <rohandhruva> hi all
[04:41] <rohandhruva> jsut installed warty
[04:41] <lifeless> tritium: if I beat up fabbione hard enough, neither will I.
[04:41] <lifeless> tritium: he'll want to know that it works for me first though, I tihnk:)
[04:42] <tritium> lifeless, good luck :)
[04:42] <lifeless> its just fuse, which is in the -mm tree these days, or so I hear.
[04:42] <phr0stbyte> Yay! Wacom drawing tablet is now working!!!
[04:42] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[04:43] <da_bon_bon> just installed warty
[04:43] <linuxboy> I installed totem-xine to get my divx working. that worked. but it removed ubuntu-desktop..... whats that?
[04:43] <da_bon_bon> will update to hoary.
[04:43] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: ok, sounds like a plan.
[04:43] <randabis> ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package
[04:43] <randabis> it's safe to remove
[04:43] <da_bon_bon> andrewski, :)
[04:43] <linuxboy> whats a meta-package?
[04:44] <da_bon_bon> wtf isnt my sound card detected ?
[04:44] <randabis> ...
[04:44] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: well, it may be if you update to hoary; i dunno....
[04:45] <da_bon_bon> hey, how do i configure my sound ?
[04:46] <linuxboy> randabis: whats a meta-package?
[04:46] <andrewski> linuxboy: it's an empty package that depends on other packages.
[04:46] <phr0stbyte> When trying to burn a DVD through Gnome burn, my media is seen as a regular blank CD - Anyone know what is wrong?
[04:47] <linuxboy> andrewski: oic. why was it removed? Will i regret removing it in the future?
[04:47] <linuxboy> Rocha: do you play dvds in linux?
[04:47] <da_bon_bon> how do i configure my i810 onboard sound card ?
[04:48] <andrewski> linuxboy: so for ubuntu-desktop, it has a specific list of dependencies: gnome, firefox, etc.  if, for example, i didn't want firefox, i could safely remove firefox, which would in turn remove ubuntu-desktop.  it's not a problem (the other packages are still installed); i just don't have *those specific packages* installed anymore. :)
[04:48] <andrewski> linuxboy: make sense?
[04:48] <IRCMonkey> hello ...
[04:49] <IRCMonkey> i am new to Ubuntu
[04:49] <da_bon_bon> please HELP me : how do i configure my i810 onboard sound card ?
[04:49] <IRCMonkey> just downloaded the ISO and installed it
[04:49] <andrewski> IRCMonkey: welcome. :)
[04:49] <linuxboy> andrewski: when hoary comes out. Will i need ubuntu-desktop?
[04:49] <fuglyRat> hi
[04:49] <Rocha> linuxboy, with totem-xine
[04:49] <fuglyRat> how do i do port fowarding? i just want all connections on port 80 to be forwarded to another machine on my lan
[04:49] <andrewski> linuxboy: you never "need" it, that's exactly the point.  here's a scenario:
[04:49] <linuxboy> andrewski: oic. instead of installing a whole bunch of packages, you just install ubuntu-desktop. It installs them all for you
[04:50] <andrewski> linuxboy: exactly.
[04:50] <BiteMeBill> da_bon_bon: see if this helps  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1312&highlight=i810+onboard+sound
[04:50] <IRCMonkey> how to configure GUI?
[04:50] <linuxboy> Rocha: i installed that, but it says it cant play without libdvdcss
[04:50] <andrewski> linuxboy: but, if you don't want a handful of packages that are there, it's not a problem to remove that metapackage.
[04:50] <IRCMonkey> startx says no screens found
[04:51] <hrdesalpes> hello all ,there are a french please for the help in ubutun?
[04:51] <andrewski> IRCMonkey: you'll need to reconfigure X; is that a message you get by default, or did you mess with the configuration?
[04:51] <linuxboy> andrewski: so, you could have ubuntu-server anu uuntu-desktop. both have a list of packages for that. server will have apache etc. desktop will have firefox etc
[04:51] <andrewski> linuxboy: yes.
[04:51] <website> hrdesalpes, go to #ubuntu-fr
[04:51] <IRCMonkey> got it by default
[04:51] <hrdesalpes> thanks you
[04:52] <IRCMonkey> it tries to start gnome and says some fatal error
[04:52] <andrewski> IRCMonkey: and you're on warty, right?
[04:52] <linuxboy> Rocha: An error occured. The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?
[04:52] <IRCMonkey> yeah
[04:52] <da_bon_bon> BiteMeBill, thanks. do i need to restart after this ?
[04:52] <linuxboy> Rocha: should i log out and in again?
[04:52] <andrewski> IRCMonkey: xfree-config, i think (i don't have the command on my system).
[04:52] <Rocha> linuxboy, install libdvdcss2
[04:52] <IRCMonkey> the same prob i had with FreeBSD also ..but it somehow is starting X now
[04:52] <linuxboy> Rocha: done. doesnt hel
[04:52] <linuxboy> Rocha: done. doesnt help
[04:52] <tritium> randabis, hola
[04:52] <Juice-> Back. How can i scroll up to see old text in console using irssi? is it shift+pg up?
[04:52] <andrewski> IRCMonkey: well, don't ask questions and enjoy X! :P
[04:52] <IRCMonkey> it is XFree86 -config
[04:52] <Rocha> linuxboy, close totem and open it agani
[04:53] <randabis> hi tritium :)
[04:53] <IRCMonkey> but that is only on BSD, not with Ubuntu
[04:53] <linuxboy> Rocha: doesnt help
[04:53] <tritium> randabis, sunny day in Houston?
[04:53] <Rocha> Strange
[04:53] <rapha> Hey, who made the Ubuntu GDM screen?
[04:53] <rapha> I'd like to copy it for a GRUB screen, but I've no idea how to do that "glowing" effect in GIMP
[04:54] <LinuxJones> rapha, Jeff Waugh I think
[04:54] <linuxboy> Rocha: i have totem-gstreame and totem-xine installed
[04:54] <delphi> anyone go the latest live cd to work correctly with an nvidia graphics cards?
[04:54] <BiteMeBill> da_bon_bon: it says to.
[04:54] <Phr0stByte> When trying to burn a DVD through Gnome burn, my media is seen as a regular blank CD - Anyone know what is wrong?
[04:54] <randabis> tritium, looks to be cloudy...haven't been outside yet but I see out the window
[04:54] <linuxboy> Rocha: what you got installed
[04:54] <Rocha> linuxboy, i can't remember
[04:54] <linuxboy> Rocha: do a  dpkg -l | grep totem
[04:55] <linuxboy> Juice-: pgup for irssi
[04:55] <fuglyRat> how do i do port fowarding? i just want all connections on port 80 to be forwarded to another machine on my lan
[04:55] <goldfish> fuglyRat: Read your router manual.
[04:56] <Rocha> linuxboy, i'm not on ubuntu warty, i'm in hoary
[04:56] <fuglyRat> my router is retarded and ignores rules sometimes, i have to do it on my local machine
[04:56] <goldfish> oh right
[04:56] <Rocha> linuxboy, i must have two versions because ubuntu cd doesn't support upgrade
[04:56] <linuxboy> Rocha: oic. hmmm...
[04:56] <linuxboy> Rocha: ubuntu cd doesn't support upgrade
[04:56] <linuxboy> Rocha: ?
[04:56] <fuglyRat> is it easy to do?
[04:56] <fuglyRat> like in windows
[04:57] <Rocha> linuxboy, nop, i must install it to a new partition
[04:57] <linuxboy> Rocha: can i upgrade my warty to hoary when hoary comes out?
[04:57] <Rocha> At least array-2, it's what i have installed
[04:57] <jk> linuxboy: yes
[04:57] <Rocha> linuxboy, with apt-get yes
[04:57] <rapha> Change everything from "warty" to "hoary" in synaptic's sources, then update, then upgrade.
[04:57] <rapha> A couple of mouseclicks and keystrokes.
[04:57] <Rocha> linuxboy, but i can't use apt-get (dialup)
[04:57] <linuxboy> Rocha: oic
[04:57] <randabis> I already use hoary...heh not in ubuntu right now though
[04:57] <linuxboy> rapha: i want to upgrade only when the hoary cd comes out
[04:58] <randabis> using gentoo
[04:58] <rapha> Well, then just make the Hoary CD the only package source
[04:58] <da_bon_bon> hey, who had given me the link for my i810 onboard audio problem ?
[04:58] <linuxboy> rapha: it wont break anything?
[04:59] <LinuxJones> fuglyRat, firestarter can do port forwarding
[04:59] <Zotnix> I imagine not an entirely appropriate place to ask, but since there are developers lurking: Is C# good and does anyone know a good "tutorial/help" site not necessarily MS specific?
[05:00] <Scognito> hi
[05:00] <IRCMonkey> can anyone tel me how to get GUI up and running? i'm new to ubuntu and i just installed it
[05:00] <LinuxJones> fuglyRat, >> http://security.linux.com/security/05/01/03/2250258.shtml?tid=49&tid=47&tid=35
[05:00] <andrewski> Zotnix: #c#
[05:00] <Scognito> why http://www.getsweaaa.com is no more usable for getting mono?
[05:00] <andrewski> IRCMonkey: did you get X working?
[05:00] <randabis> I wonder if there's a way to prevent ubuntu from editing my menu.lst when a new kernel is installed/updated
[05:00] <linuxboy> Rocha: for the record. logging in and out fixed the DVD issue :)
[05:00] <IRCMonkey> no
[05:00] <LinuxJones> IRCMonkey, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[05:00] <linuxboy> Rocha: i mean out and in
[05:01] <IRCMonkey> what does dpkg do?
[05:01] <Rocha> linuxboy, cool :)
[05:01] <andrewski> IRCMonkey: a lot. :)
[05:01] <Zotnix> andrewski, thanks. Searching for c# in xchat produces every room with a c in it.
[05:01] <randabis> I have my menu.lst set a certain way for gentoo and ubuntu to co-exist and ubuntu's script messes it up
[05:01] <andrewski> Zotnix: i just searched in xchat also. :)
[05:01] <randabis> it makes ubuntu try to run my gentoo kernel lol
[05:01] <andrewski> Zotnix: which version?
[05:02] <Zotnix> Latest.
[05:02] <Zotnix> Oh... dug
[05:02] <Zotnix> duh*
[05:02] <IRCMonkey> ok ... thanks guys .. wil try it out and tel u.
[05:02] <andrewski> 2.4.1?
[05:02] <Zotnix> Was searching wrong server.
[05:02] <Zotnix> :p
[05:02] <andrewski> Zotnix: hehe.
[05:02] <Zotnix> Yep
[05:02] <cindux> hrm
[05:02] <cindux> stupid question but does the "ls" command list files & dirs only in the current directory?
[05:02] <randabis> hmm...maybe I could use grub.conf instead of menu.lst
[05:03] <cindux> or could i do ls & then a directory
[05:03] <cindux> and it would list them as well
[05:03] <speel> cindux: yea
[05:03] <cindux> oh neato = /
[05:03] <speel> liek you could go to cd /home/username
[05:03] <fuglyRat> ta linuxjones
[05:03] <speel> and then just type ls to see whats in it
[05:03] <Rocha> bye ppl
[05:03] <Rocha> with dial up, i just can't upgrade this thing
[05:03] <da_bon_bon> i am screwed.
[05:03] <Rocha> It's better to install array-4
[05:03] <Rocha> bye
[05:04] <da_bon_bon> before logging in i hear the sounds, but once i log in the osund stops working.
[05:04] <da_bon_bon> why ?
[05:04] <cindux> do you mean just cut off ?
[05:04] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: hmm... logging into gnome?
[05:04] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: yes.
[05:04] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: at the prompt i hear the drum sound
[05:05] <polli> can anyone tell me in what package the man pages for C are?
[05:05] <andrewski> did you check your sound settings in gnome?
[05:05] <da_bon_bon> but not after logging in :(
[05:05] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: where do i check ?
[05:05] <da_bon_bon> polli: build-essential
[05:06] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: gnome control center
[05:06] <WillCooke> How do I change the size of the icons on the desktop in Gnome?  And, can I change the size of the window title bars to make them a bit thinner.
[05:07] <da_bon_bon> should esd be enabled or disabled ?
[05:07] <WillCooke> I'm running a desktop at 1024x768 and it's a bit squashed
[05:08] <polli> da_bon_bon: no, they were not
[05:08] <andrewski> WillCooke: for the title bars, you'd have to change your theme
[05:08] <da_bon_bon> polli: no idea then.
[05:08] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: enabled.
[05:08] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: it is. strange that only after logging i cant hear! :(
[05:09] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: i dunno; try starting it manually and see if there's any output in a term window.
[05:09] <Phr0stByte> When I try to burn a DVD from Gnome, the DVD disk is seen as a CD-R disk - ANyone know what is wrong?
[05:09] <WillCooke> andrewski, Though so.  Thanks
[05:10] <fuglyRat> hmm
[05:10] <fuglyRat> firestarter doesn't seem to work properly
[05:10] <fuglyRat> connectiosn just timeout
[05:11] <fuglyRat> ah there it goes
[05:13] <da_bon_bon> does ubuntu use udev to clean up the dev file system ?
[05:13] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: warty, no.  hoary, yes.
[05:13] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: i had to do "chmod 777 /dev/dsp" now esd is fine, but still volume control says no mixer els.
[05:13] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: hmm, you on hoary?
[05:13] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: warty/
[05:14] <da_bon_bon> ok, now gnome cant use sounds - other apps can
[05:15] <polli> da_bon_bon: manpages-dev
[05:15] <da_bon_bon> i brb
[05:16] <andrewski> tritium: for the runlevels bit, would i find which runlevels are used by what in the debian policy manual?
[05:17] <tritium> andrewski, I believe so.
[05:17] <andrewski> where can i find it?
[05:17] <andrewski> locally or on the internet?
[05:18] <tritium> andrewski, "sudo apt-get install debian-policy"
[05:18] <fuglyRat> when i middle click a tab in firefox it seems to load a url from my clipboard, but i've disabled middleclick.paste. is there something else that might be casuing this?
[05:18] <vi11e> Hello, Anyone here with updated and edited source.list for hoary?
[05:18] <osvaldo> Hello, anyone got a link to a tutorial on how to get sound working on ubuntu?
[05:18] <andrewski> tritium: ok, thanks.
[05:18] <tritium> andrewski, sure :)
[05:19] <goedson> I've just tried to upgrade my machine from warty to hoary and I'm not able to boot it anymore.
[05:19] <godo> osvaldo, http://ubuntuguide.org
[05:19] <goedson> It isn't possible to run any program when try to boot it.
[05:19] <linuxboy> How do I play wmv files in ubuntu?
[05:20] <fuglyRat> mplayer is good
[05:20] <goedson> I get "Can't run /sbin/shutdown" when I hit CTRL+ALT+DEL on the console.
[05:20] <osvaldo> godo, Thanks.
[05:20] <linuxboy> How do I play wmv files in ubuntu with totem?
[05:20] <goedson> Any ideas?
[05:20] <vi11e> linuxboy, just play them
[05:20] <fuglyRat> it won't play drm ones
[05:20] <vi11e> you need to apt-get the codecs first
[05:20] <linuxboy> vi11e: good idea!!! pity they dont work
[05:20] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: well, do this to help me - what group is a standard ubuntu user a part of ?
[05:20] <linuxboy> vi11e: whats the package noame for the codecs?
[05:21] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: uh... h/o a sec.
[05:21] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: sure
[05:21] <godo> w32codecs
[05:21] <vi11e> I don\t remember... I just installed ubuntu... they should update that info to the ubuntuguide website
[05:21] <linuxboy> godo: what source?
[05:21] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: pm me if thats better.
[05:21] <usual> daniels, I still have issues in hoary with double clicking on folders in nautilus and X crashes, did you tell me before why that was? I can't remember
[05:21] <godo> apt-get install w32codecs
[05:21] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: no, we can keep it here.  i don't really know, but for audio problems, there's the audio group. :)
[05:21] <godo> nerim
[05:21] <linuxboy> godo: thanx
[05:21] <vi11e> Can someone with ubuntu hoary please gedit his source.list and make it a text file and upload it ?
[05:22] <dv[bteg] > i'm in the middle of an install and i need to change the network settings.  I have a rogue DHCPD server on the network which is giving ubuntu the wrong information, but because ubuntu gets information it decides its all good, but I cant figure out how to change the settings (gateway & dns specifically)
[05:22] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: well, i had to login to recovery mode to create the user
[05:22] <andrewski> vi11e: ubuntuguide.org
[05:22] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: ok, here:
[05:22] <godo> linuxboy, ubuntuguid.org
[05:23] <godo> ubuntuguide.org
[05:23] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: go on.
[05:23] <osvaldo> godo, There's no section on sound there.
[05:23] <godo> look in the wiki
[05:23] <osvaldo> anyone know how to get sound  going on ubuntu
[05:23] <goedson> Now, I can mount its root partition in my Debian system. But I get this when trying to access it:
[05:23] <osvaldo> all ready did
[05:23] <vi11e> andrewski, there are only source.list for warty and it doesn't include all the good libraries
[05:23] <andrewski> my normal user is in dialout, cdrom, floppy, audio, video, plugdev, lpadmin, and scanner.  (there's also a group with my username with no members.)
[05:23] <goedson> [14:22:04] [goedson@glomps:/mnt] ->LC_ALL=C sudo ls
[05:23] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: thats all ?
[05:24] <goedson> ls: reading directory .: Input/output error
[05:24] <goedson> [14:23:38] [goedson@glomps:/mnt] ->
[05:24] <andrewski> vi11e: what good libraries?  and you can change 'warty' to 'hoary'.
[05:24] <goedson> It's an XFS partition.
[05:24] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: yes.
[05:24] <linuxboy> godo: it kinda works. But the sound is broken. Any clues?
[05:24] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: do you think i should have more?
[05:24] <cindux> damnt ><
[05:24] <vi11e> well.. last time I installed hoary, few days ago, some dude sent me his libraries and it had lots of different ones
[05:24] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: i dunno.
[05:24] <cindux> Anyone know why Ubuntu won't read my floppies
[05:24] <cindux> er..
[05:25] <godo> linuxboy, maibe another knows the fix
[05:25] <cindux> it used to be able to read my floppies with a few .txt & .html files on them
[05:25] <vi11e> I guess I have to live with those then
[05:25] <cindux> and those same floppies cant be read
[05:25] <linuxboy> godo: the audio codec in the file is MS Windows Media Audio 2 (ffmpeg)
[05:25] <andrewski> vi11e: ok, well, there are other repositories out there, but i don't use them. :)
[05:26] <godo> apt-get ffmpeg
[05:26] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: do me a favour, please post your /etc/group file somewhere on the net - www.yousendit.com or www.pastebin.com
[05:26] <fuglyRat> anyone else getting flooded with "paypal flagged acount" scams?
[05:26] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: why do you need it?  you can set up your user automagically.
[05:26] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: how ?
[05:27] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: man adduser
[05:27] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: i did that, but didnt work. please post /etc/group
[05:28] <Petteri> Hello everybody
[05:28] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: how are you invoking it?
[05:29] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: see, during install due to display coruption i couldnt put my username in correct, so after isntall i booted into recovery and used adduser
[05:29] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: right.  what are you typing in?
[05:30] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: adduser rohandhruva
[05:30] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: oh, you need a bit more than that. :)
[05:30] <da_bon_bon> what ?
[05:30] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: did you read the manpage?
[05:30] <da_bon_bon> no.
[05:30] <andrewski> :)
[05:30] <da_bon_bon> can u please /tell/ ?
[05:31] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: i'm doing other things now and am not going to interpret the manpage for you, sorry.  (i'd have to look there myself.)
[05:31] <da_bon_bon> ok.
[05:31] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: take a stab and post back here before you run it.
[05:31] <da_bon_bon> but, can u post ur etc/group ?
[05:31] <cindux> Could someone help me witha wierd floppy problem ?
[05:32] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: i don't see how it'd help; you'd still need to run adduser to get a home dir, a shell, etc....
[05:32] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: i am rohandhruva user have the shell home dir nice. jsut dont have group perms.
[05:32] <ferris> after I install a program, how do I get an icon in the menu. currently, I have to go to /usr/bin/ or use the command line
[05:32] <andrewski> oh, then you'd just need to run adduser. :)
[05:32] <andrewski> you can specify group membership there.
[05:33] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: adduser. ?
[05:33] <da_bon_bon> whats that ?
[05:33] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: u dont get me. i dont have permissions for /myself/
[05:33] <andrewski> wait, do you have a user already?
[05:33] <da_bon_bon> yes.
[05:33] <da_bon_bon> i am that user and i dont have the permissons.
[05:34] <andrewski> ah.  do you have a group called rohandhruva?
[05:34] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: yes.
[05:34] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: and have you added rohandhruva to the other groups, like the ones i mentioned?
[05:35] <vi11e> hmm, what's wrong with the apt-get... it refuses to update.... it tries to say some packages are broken or something
[05:35] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: no, thats what i want the file for.
[05:35] <afonit> ville: if packages are broken, you must fix them first, before it will update
[05:35] <da_bon_bon> vi11e: apt-get update
[05:35] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: yes, but why would by file help?  try `man group`
[05:35] <vi11e> just did that
[05:36] <andrewski> vi11e: and what did it say?
[05:36] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: it will help.
[05:36] <afonit> ville:  on bottom left of synaptic, click on the button that says 'custom'
[05:36] <afonit> it will show you the broken packeges on the left
[05:36] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: sheesh. can u jsut post it ? i am no newbie :)
[05:36] <afonit> you have to uninstall them, then reinstall
[05:36] <vi11e> ok
[05:37] <andrewski> da_bon_bon: then you should have no trouble reading the manpage.
[05:37] <ferris> how do i create a link to a program, so that i can access it through the menu
[05:37] <ferris> ?
[05:38] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: ok.. can u post it or no
[05:38] <da_bon_bon> ?
[05:38] <universal> can someone help me with my xine playing dvd's?
[05:39] <da_bon_bon> universal: yes ?
[05:39] <dejavu> ppl  need some help with nautilis
[05:40] <universal> da_bon_bon,  ok its because there is some problems with my symlinks i think
[05:40] <universal> da_bon_bon, xine cannot read eml:dvd
[05:40] <dejavu> when i open a mount a FAT drive and open it from the nautilis it shows  directories/folders as  files !
[05:41] <universal> what shall i write to set the corret symlink from dvd, to fstab?
[05:41] <da_bon_bon> am i alive
[05:41] <da_bon_bon> can i be heard ?
[05:41] <bascule> pardon?
[05:42] <bascule> wanted spoon-fed
[05:42] <dejavu> when i open a mount a FAT drive and open it from the nautilis it shows  directories/folders as  files !  how can i make emm look like folders ?
[05:42] <bascule> change your Icon theme maybe, is that it?
[05:43] <universal> can someone helt me with xine?
[05:43] <mjg59> dejavu: How did you mount the drive?
[05:43] <bascule> what's wrong woth it?
[05:43] <universal> me?
[05:43] <rapha> Goddamn it
[05:43] <rapha> Has anyone here had any experience setting up bootsplash
[05:43] <bascule> universal: yes you
[05:44] <vi11e> synapcsis  shows no broken packages.. afonit andrewski and apt-get gives these messages: http://vk0.dk/vkprivupload/rfyybhtt/error.txt
[05:44] <dejavu> mjg59: with simple mount command   like ...  "mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/winc"
[05:44] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: hey, sorry for my rude behaviour
[05:44] <mjg59> dejavu: Right. You used sudo?
[05:44] <mjg59> In that case, the files won't be readable by your normal user
[05:44] <universal> ok, xine says no input plugin available to handle DVD
[05:45] <da_bon_bon> andrewski: can u please atleast tell me which groups u r in again ?
[05:45] <dejavu> mjg59: umm dont think so !
[05:45] <universal> bascule, maybe MRL syntax is wrong
[05:45] <bascule> universal: libdvdcss2
[05:45] <bascule> libdvdread
[05:45] <mjg59> dejavu: Try mount -oumask=000 /dev/hda3 /mnt/winc
[05:45] <deepsight> hello, has anyone tried to install vmware on ubuntu?
[05:45] <dejavu> mjg59: wait lemme try !
[05:45] <bascule> universal: put the dvd in, hit the dvd button on xine, that is it
[05:45] <malte`> hi, how can i tell my bash i want color in my xterms? (the xterm-color thing)
[05:46] <universal> i tried, but i think it has something to do with the symlink etc/fstab
[05:46] <bascule> ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd <-- something like that
[05:46] <vjaz> Hm... I upgraded from Warty to Hoary and I now noticed a little detail. The mouse cursor has changed to the X11 default. Anyone know how to change it?
[05:47] <vjaz> (Yes I know it's silly.)
[05:47] <vi11e> afonit, andrewski  probably I am missing some libraries even as I imported all the libraries at ubuntuguide.org because I am still capable installing some other things with apt-get
[05:47] <malte`> vjaz, install gcursor from the universe repository
[05:47] <malte`> and use the nice pinux ubuntu cursor theme :)
[05:47] <vjaz> malte`, Is that necessary then?
[05:47] <deepsight> has someone vmware installed in ubuntu?
[05:47] <vjaz> malte`, How does it work in Warty?
[05:48] <dejavu> mjg59: hey it works :) ... thats  dude !  but what was the diff ?
[05:48] <cindux> does /bin = /binaries?
[05:48] <cindux> <newb :(
[05:48] <malte`> vjaz, we (hoary users) have the boring core theme for a bug in the themes
[05:48] <universal> bascule, ok, then how to remove the xine-386 ?
[05:48] <vjaz> Ah, ok.
[05:48] <malte`> you don't have mist gtk themes too, if you look there
[05:48] <vi11e> or maybe not libraries.... I can't install many other things... but can install some things :
[05:48] <bascule> apt-get remove <what-ever>
[05:48] <malte`> so this is now the only workaround
[05:49] <vjaz> :-/
[05:49] <malte`> but i hope developers will adopt Pinux cursors instead of Jimmac's ones :)
[05:49] <nesr> how do i setup my touchpad? only the mouse is affected in computer->DP->mouse (movement speed, acceleration etc.) ..
[05:49] <universal> bascule, other ways?
[05:49] <cindux> Pinux ?
[05:49] <cindux> my friends working on Pynux :P
[05:49] <universal> it cant find it as pat-get remoce
[05:49] <malte`> heeh
[05:49] <bascule> universal: what are you talking about, remove the package ... other ways ???
[05:50] <universal> yes
[05:50] <bascule> manually if you want, but no I won't help you do that
[05:51] <bascule> package mangement system ... arguably the best one around .. other ways .. weird
[05:52] <dejavu> how can i get  MP3 Support for ubuntu ?   and is there a better mp3 player + mp3 file manager  then xmmx ?
[05:52] <dejavu> how can i get  MP3 Support for ubuntu ?   and is there a better mp3 player + mp3 file manager  then xmmx ?
[05:52] <vjaz> malte`, Is the Pinux theme available from apt-get or do I need to install it manually? apt-cache search pinux found nothing so I guess it's not in universe at least
[05:52] <bascule> is there an echo in here?
[05:52] <vjaz> bascule, no
[05:52] <vjaz> bascule, no
[05:54] <mjg59> dejavu: The umask option tells it to make the files readable to everyone
[05:54] <malte`> vjaz, www.gnome-look.org
[05:54] <cindux> .. #linux told me i must register myself
[05:54] <cindux> i dont know how :(
[05:54] <cindux> ll
[05:54] <plagerism> Can I use mplayer to convert video from one type to another??  And if so is there a tutorial somewhere to do so??
[05:54] <bascule_bad_mood> RTFM freenode.net
[05:55] <plagerism> I am currently attempting with transcode, however it doesnt seem to work
[05:55] <cindux> ?
[05:55] <plagerism> RTFM=READ THE F'N MANUAL
[05:56] <plagerism> And SOrry wrong channel on my question
[05:56] <malte`> RTFM it's worse than not answering...
[05:56] <dejavu> mjg59:  thanks for the info dude !
[05:56] <inc> sup peeps
[05:56] <cindux> er
[05:56] <cindux> lol
[05:57] <krister> I want to enable a "dummy/virtual" disolay :0.1, how do i do this?
[05:57] <bascule_bad_mood> malte`: depends where yoyr at really ...
[05:57] <AlphaZero> anyone use Xine for dvd playback?
[05:58] <bascule_bad_mood> malte`: RTFM http://www.freenode.net
[05:58] <krister> i need this to get fullscreen magnification with gnome-mag/gnopernicus
[05:58] <bascule_bad_mood> malte`: have yuou tried this http://www.freenode.net ?
[05:58] <bascule_bad_mood> what is the difference?
[05:58] <malte`> ok you're in a bad mood
[05:58] <inc> damn pulled out the RTFM lol
[05:59] <Cybodog> I have a user who is trying to update menus in ununtu, gnome desktop, I dont use gnome, how would he do that, to reflect new apps installed?
[05:59] <bascule> these things pass quick sometimes :)#
[05:59] <inc> most apps i've installed with apt put themselves into the menu system
[06:00] <Cybodog> inc in gnome?
[06:00] <inc> thats what ubuntu uses
[06:00] <AlphaZero> restart gnome maybe?
[06:00] <Cybodog> I told him to use update-menus and restart, we will see
[06:01] <inc> if he installed the app with apt-get then he just needs to restart gnome
[06:01] <Cybodog> reports differntly
[06:02] <inc> if he compiled it on his own then i would use the configuration editor
[06:02] <Cybodog> let me check
[06:03] <cindux> Is their any reason to update ubuntus kernel ?
[06:03] <cindux> to 2.6.10 ?
[06:03] <inc> bascule wanna take another wack at helping me get this damn sound working? lol
[06:04] <inc> i dunno works ok for me right now cindux
[06:04] <bascule> inc: nah I really need to go out, I mean *really* need too LOL
[06:04] <inc> lol
[06:04] <bascule> or I'll flame peole and stuff, not nice ..
[06:05] <cindux> hm
[06:05] <inc> burn baby burn
[06:05] <bascule> cindux: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering <-- ther
[06:05] <inc> hoary is nice but if my sound doesn't work i'm going to chuck it
[06:06] <cindux> woah
[06:06] <cindux> thankey :P
[06:06] <bascule> np
[06:06] <bascule> LOL
[06:06] <bascule> read the rest of the FAQ, might find useful things there
[06:06] <bascule> ;)
[06:06] <inc> how much sleep you running on bascule?
[06:07] <bascule> 5 hours
[06:07] <AlphaZero> inc, did warty find your audio?
[06:07] <inc> that should be enough hehe
[06:07] <bascule> yeah, I need 3D people tonight
[06:07] <inc> warty was playing cds
[06:07] <Cybodog> inc, turn out he installed from a tar
[06:08] <AlphaZero> ah ok, i was considering a dist-upgrade, but wont til its stable i guess
[06:08] <kalandor> re all, has anybody an idea why cannot scan with xsane as normal user? I mean it does not see the scanner as a user, only as root, the device is a Canon Lide 20
[06:08] <inc> cybodog: try the configuration editor
[06:08] <AlphaZero> I got my dvd playback working with mPlayer but not anything else
[06:09] <inc> alphazero: my sound wasn't 100% before the upgrade but my wifi card was working and still does
[06:09] <cindux> woo registered
[06:09] <Cybodog> just told him that inc, what is the path to the configuration editor?
[06:09] <inc> he on warty or hoary
[06:09] <AlphaZero> my sound is partially working now, but fine when i use different codecs for different playback options
[06:10] <AlphaZero> in mPlayer
[06:10] <Cybodog> inc warty
[06:10] <AlphaZero> in Xine, dvd playback doesnt work at all at the moment
[06:10] <inc> apps> system tools> config editor
[06:10] <Cybodog> ty
[06:11] <cindux> er
[06:11] <AlphaZero> where do I edit the config for autoplay on a device?
[06:11] <cindux> er anyone know where the passwd file is in ubuntu?
[06:11] <cindux> I tried /etc/passwd
[06:12] <inc> you sure it's not there?
[06:12] <inc> i got one
[06:13] <bascule> cindux: you have no plaintest version of yuor password /etc/shadow has an md5 sum of it
[06:14] <bascule> md5 sum hash thingy algorithim scrambled whats it
[06:15] <AngryClip> what does bad superblock on /dev/hdc mean?
[06:15] <marjan> what is the name of package repository which has functioning k3b?
[06:15] <marjan> the main repository has k3b without k3bsetup2
[06:16] <marjan> so you can not setup up k3b
[06:17] <sig_ubuntu> marcus|: go to k3b.com and get thepackage manually
[06:17] <sig_ubuntu> k3b.org or whatever it is
[06:17] <marjan> sig_ubuntu, why???
[06:18] <cindux> oh
[06:18] <dud> prolly k3b.sf.net
[06:18] <marjan> there should be a package repository which has k3b
[06:18] <marjan> or should i do it for gnome too???
[06:18] <marjan> rofl
[06:18] <marjan> or do you know any alternative for k3b which is as good?
[06:18] <sig_ubuntu> gtoaster
[06:18] <marjan> i have not found any gnome program which good enough
[06:18] <marjan> gtoaster should be degubbed first
[06:19] <krister> are XF86Config and XF86Config-4 the same?
[06:19] <sig_ubuntu> gtoaster is good
[06:19] <sig_ubuntu> marcus|: here...
[06:20] <sig_ubuntu> http://gnomebaker.sourceforge.net/  <- an equivelent to k3b for gnome
[06:20] <plagerism> Whos the guy in here that can get stuff done as far as the amd64 port??
[06:20] <rubixXx> how can i change the owner of hda5 i mounted...i tried chown but it said permission denied as root
[06:20] <marjan> sig_ubuntu, is it stable?
[06:20] <sig_ubuntu> http://www.coaster-burn.org/ <-- another one
[06:20] <sig_ubuntu> get the stable package
[06:20] <marjan> i saw a lot of programs
[06:20] <marjan> but they are unusable
[06:21] <marjan> and i have a wish to use cdrecord manually after i used them for 30 seconds
[06:21] <ups> marjan: tried graveman?
[06:21] <plagerism> marjan, I have k3bsetup
[06:21] <sig_ubuntu> http://ubuntulinux.com/ <-- marjan
[06:21] <ups> its in univesre
[06:21] <marjan> plagerism, k3bsetup2
[06:21] <marjan> plagerism, not k3bsetup
[06:21] <plagerism> marjan, lol nevermind
[06:21] <marjan> thx ppl
[06:21] <marjan> :)
[06:21] <plagerism> marjan there is a two??
[06:21] <cindux> er im new to linux so noone betta get mad
[06:21] <sig_ubuntu> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GnomeBaker <-- marcus|
[06:21] <sig_ubuntu> erer
[06:21] <sig_ubuntu> marjan:
[06:21] <cindux> bin is usually used for programs etc
[06:21] <sig_ubuntu> read that link above
[06:21] <rubixXx> how can i change the owner of hda5 i mounted...i tried chown but it said permission denied as root
[06:22] <cindux> if I download something from the internet, should i install it within bin
[06:23] <marjan> sig_ubuntu, thank you very very much :D
[06:23] <sig_ubuntu> np
[06:24] <rubixXx> cindux, depends on what you d/led
[06:24] <marjan> sig_ubuntu, hmm it is only 0.3
[06:24] <cindux> hm
[06:24] <sig_ubuntu> thats ok
[06:24] <sig_ubuntu> it is just starting, that wiki explains they asked for testers
[06:25] <marjan> see
[06:25] <sig_ubuntu> it looks like a really good burning app for cd/dvd
[06:25] <marjan> my problem is i installing linux for total noob
[06:25] <marjan> he needs a stable app
[06:25] <marjan> which is very easy to use
[06:25] <marjan> and he does not want to be a betatester
[06:26] <sig_ubuntu> marjan: it is going to be fine
[06:27] <rubixXx> marcus|, get mandrake
[06:27] <rubixXx> marjan, get mandrake i mean, lol, its better for total newb
[06:27] <marjan> rubixXx, i am upset of mandrake
[06:27] <marjan> i like ubuntu it is very userfriendly
[06:28] <marjan> ... after it is installed
[06:28] <marjan> :D
[06:28] <cindux> installation was easy for me, a linux newb
[06:28] <cindux> just took a LONG time to install packages
[06:28] <marjan> yes
[06:28] <marjan> mandrake is easy to install
[06:28] <marjan> and use
[06:28] <marjan> but it is very unstable
[06:28] <marjan> and it has little programs
[06:28] <marjan> which you can install with urpmi
[06:28] <sig_ubuntu> marjan: quit talking about little you know
[06:29] <marjan> sig_ubuntu, what do you mean?
[06:29] <sig_ubuntu> then just use nautilus if your so scared the program will blow up on you
[06:29] <marjan> sig_ubuntu, cool how to do it?
[06:29] <vjaz> Argh, anyone know how to make Totem-Xine use Esound?
[06:30] <ferris> can i switch to kde desktop?
[06:30] <ferris> if so, how?
[06:30] <Riddell> ferris: certainly https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallingKDE
[06:30] <sig_ubuntu> marjan: I'm using gnomebaker and I haven't had one single problem yet ok
[06:30] <Xappe> install it
[06:30] <ferris> ok
[06:30] <ferris> thanks
[06:31] <marjan> sig_ubuntu, then tell me please how to install it
[06:31] <markus> Hi. Something changed on my Warty installation: I can't change the preferred application for the text editor anymore. It's set to "Kedit" for all Gnome-users, and it doesn't remember my changes ...?
[06:32] <sig_ubuntu> marjan: ok dude one time and one time only, I thought you weren't a newb
[06:33] <sig_ubuntu> first "gnomebaker" depends on cdda2wav so...
[06:33] <oyaji> hiya everyone  :)
[06:33] <sig_ubuntu> manually download gnomebaker_0.3-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[06:33] <larsrohdin> hi! in nautilus there's an built-in cd/dvd burning funciton.. is there such a thing in Fluxbox?
[06:33] <pestil> is Sir subterrific here?
[06:33] <sig_ubuntu> then: apt-get cdda2wav
[06:33] <marjan> sig_ubuntu, ok
[06:33] <sig_ubuntu> then: dpkg -i gnomebaker_0.3-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[06:33] <sig_ubuntu> thats it
[06:33] <marjan> sig_ubuntu, sorry
[06:33] <marjan> sig_ubuntu, i though it is in the repository
[06:33] <sig_ubuntu> then run gnomebaker in a terminal
[06:33] <marjan> sig_ubuntu, i wanted only that you give me the address of repository which has it
[06:34] <marjan> sig_ubuntu, excuse me please
[06:34] <sig_ubuntu> it isn't in repositories yet
[06:34] <sig_ubuntu> for warty
[06:34] <marjan> that was my only problem
[06:34] <sig_ubuntu> so you'll have to do it this way until it is added
[06:34] <sig_ubuntu> once it is added you can upgrade it
[06:35] <marjan> thx
[06:35] <pestil> what do I have to get to satisfy X includes?
[06:36] <SeanQ> I know I asked this last night, but maybe I can get some different answers and some different perspectives: What makes Ubuntu better than Fedora Core 3 [IN YOUR OPINION] ?
[06:37] <sig_ubuntu> better package management for 1
[06:37] <larsrohdin> what program can i use to write to dvd-rw discs in Fluxbox?
[06:37] <sig_ubuntu> and based off of debian
[06:37] <Sniper^> is there to make an ubunty system in a LAN an ubdate server for all other ubuntu desktops fpr the LAN?
[06:37] <vjaz> Anyone else had problems with no sound in Totem-Xine?
[06:37] <SeanQ> sig_ubuntu, what if i told you I used Synaptic in FC3? [I do.]
[06:38] <jazzka> hi!
[06:38] <kerignell> Sniper^: im sure thats possible, try google LAN repository o something
[06:38] <jazzka> I can run the last hoary livecd from my dvd-rom drive,
[06:38] <sig_ubuntu> then I'd say it probably isn't stable since it wasn't written for fedora and the fact that fedora doesn't support it and they even admit that.
[06:38] <jazzka> but the installation setup says that no module for cd-rom can be found
[06:39] <jazzka> howhow can I know wich module uses?
[06:39] <SeanQ> sig_ubuntu, is it possible to use RPMs in Ubuntu as well as .deb's?
[06:40] <sig_ubuntu> no
[06:40] <sig_ubuntu> man dpkg
[06:40] <sig_ubuntu> you can convert tar.gz to .deb's though
[06:40] <sig_ubuntu> which you should be able to find anything in tar.gz
[06:40] <Xappe> well you can convert rpms with alien
[06:41] <sig_ubuntu> Xappe: yeah but why do that when you can do it from tar.gz
[06:41] <sig_ubuntu> then your not using an rpm that was built specifically for fedora. redhat, mandrake etc...
[06:41] <godo> i have had a dist-upgrade...and now i have no sound with the players
[06:41] <Xappe> sig_ubuntu, well, sometimes the source isn't there...like for nonfree drivers and such
[06:42] <godo> how to fix this
[06:42] <sig_ubuntu> upgrade your sound godo
[06:42] <sig_ubuntu> or reinstall it with apt-get
[06:42] <godo> how to do it
[06:42] <pestil> ok
[06:43] <sig_ubuntu> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html
[06:43] <godo> uupgradind sound?
[06:43] <sig_ubuntu> --reinstall
[06:43] <sig_ubuntu>               Re-Install packages that are already installed and at the newest
[06:43] <sig_ubuntu>               version. Configuration Item: APT::Get::ReInstall.
[06:44] <carlos> hello, its possible add debian repositories in ubuntu? and please, tell me  which ones..
[06:44] <sig_ubuntu> might have broke on your dist-upgrade
[06:44] <sig_ubuntu> I'm leaving now
[06:45] <cblack> hrm. what's the name of the NetworkManager applet?
[06:46] <carlos> i cant find in ubuntu repositories, some programs like cinelerra an others ....
[06:47] <carlos>  hello, its possible add debian repositories in ubuntu? and please, tell me  which ones..please
[06:49] <AngryClip> carlos: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[06:49] <Anubis> messed up rom symlinks
[06:49] <Anubis> All CD-ROMs, whether SCSI, IDE or whatever, are placed under the /dev/cdroms hierarchy:
[06:49] <Anubis> what happened to /dev/dvd?
[06:49] <Anubis> what happened to /dev/cdrom?
[06:49] <Anubis> what happened to /dev/cdroms/cdrom0?
[06:49] <Anubis> symlinks?
[06:49] <Anubis> broken rom device symlinks anybody?
[06:49] <Anubis> I need dma on my cdroms @boot
[06:49] <Anubis> you can
[06:49] <Anubis> and
[06:49] <Anubis> I don't know
[06:50] <Gusto_> /dev/hdc ?
[06:50] <Anubis> Gusto_, yeah
[06:51] <Anubis> Gusto_, There needs to be a symlink to that no?
 thanks but some  dependences of programs not find in this repositories for example mplayer .
[06:51] <andrewski> Gusto_: but there are missing symlinks for programs that look specifically for /dev/cdrom.
[06:52] <carlos> or amarok ...too
[06:52] <AngryClip> you have to compile mplayer from source i belive
[06:52] <AngryClip> look on the programs websites, some (e.g. wine) have there own repos that you can use
[06:52] <Gusto_> i compiled mplayer from source
[06:53] <Gusto_> works great
[06:53] <inc> anyone know how to get over --no soundcard found-- ??
[06:53] <carlos> oks i think the same
[06:53] <andrewski> carlos: on which repository is mplayer?
[06:53] <bascule> inc: compile your own kernel ;)
[06:54] <carlos> a bit please
[06:54] <inc> noooo
[06:55] <bascule> inc: heh, takes practice, learn a *lot* about your machne and machines in general
[06:55] <inc> yeah well fark this.. lol going back to damn small linux
[06:55] <bascule> or hoary ..
[06:55] <delltony> hi anyone happen to know off hand where in the wiki the extra repositories are? i added them before but forgot what they were :(
[06:55] <inc> it was always good to me.. hope it takes me back
[06:55] <[NikO] > hey
[06:56] <carlos>  ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[06:56] <carlos> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[06:56] <carlos> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
[06:56] <inc> 101
[06:56] <AngryClip> oh no!
[06:56] <[NikO] > i have some problems, could someone help me ?
[06:56] <AngryClip> audioscrobbler does not have a plugin for zinc :(
[06:56] <Anubis> alwasy just ask
[06:56] <delltony> thats all of them?
[06:56] <bascule> [NikO] : is it a sound card?
[06:56] <[NikO] > i want to boot ubuntu on a external harddrive
[06:57] <bascule> BIOS issue as much as anything, a boot floppy would simplify things
[06:57] <[NikO] > i need to sleep the boot during 5 sec to have the usb drive reconised
[06:57] <eskilo> how can i find out which version of a given library or app i have installed, or is available with apt-search?
[06:57] <eskilo> apt-cache search..
[06:57] <bascule> if your BIOS can't boot USB you are stuck, if it will could be OK, something I know *nothing* about
[06:57] <carlos> bye to all
[06:57] <eskilo> [NikO] :  are you from France?
[06:58] <eskilo> [NikO] :  You need to sleep the boo _for_ five seconds.
[06:58] <[NikO] > for the moment, the kernel launch, and after break /dev/console not found
[06:58] <[NikO] > yes i m french
[06:58] <eskilo> say "for" instead of "during".
[06:58] <[NikO] > ok :)
[06:58] <[NikO] > the bios boot usb
[06:59] <bascule> 'for the duration' is OK too, for what that is worth ...
[06:59] <[NikO] > there is some commande in boot linux to stand a little time
[06:59] <eskilo> "for" means during the whole time.  "during" just means at some point or points, but not continuously through.  if i talked "during" a movie, that could mean that i just said a few things during the movie, not for the ENTIRE movie. :)
[06:59] <[NikO] > k
[07:00] <bascule> eskilo: are you German :)
[07:00] <eskilo> now back to linux.
[07:00] <eskilo> Nein.
[07:00] <[NikO] > \o/
[07:00] <eskilo> Ich bin zehr kleine.
[07:00] <bascule> they have the reputation for speaking the best English in the World .. :)
[07:00] <eskilo> hah
[07:01] <asimo> I'm getting a XIO: fatal IO error 104  when ubutu trys to to load X, how do I debug this?
[07:01] <andrewski> bascule: that's true; my english got much better as i took german in high school.
[07:01] <[NikO] > so, i have error : PnPBios : unknow '0x' length '0' juste after kernel load
[07:01] <eskilo> Und du bist nicht kleine.
[07:01] <bascule> really, It was said at University if toy get 100% for an essay you are a) cheating b) German ;P
[07:01] <eskilo> Ich haben keine geld.
[07:02] <[NikO] > pivot_root = no such file or directory
[07:02] <bascule> s/toy/you <-- god knows
[07:02] <eskilo> lol
[07:02] <[NikO] > some way to initrd > delay
[07:03] <eskilo> how can i see which version of a lib i have installed?
[07:03] <eskilo> when i try to upgrade libgcrypt, it says i need version 1.2.0..but i don't know which version i have now.
[07:03] <bascule> dpkg -L libcrypt
[07:03] <[NikO] > hum, it seem to be impossible
[07:04] <eskilo> La plej bona lingvon kiun ni povus paroli estus i tiun.
[07:04] <eskilo> bascule:  oh..i tried that earlier only i didn't use a * at the end..now i see i.
[07:04] <eskilo> it
[07:05] <eskilo> bascule:  does that only check for system-installed libraries?
[07:05] <bascule> yes
[07:05] <eskilo> bascule:  because i'm trying to compile from source.  do i need to copy those libs to /usr/local/lib?
[07:05] <bascule> I know little of dpkg commands as yet I need to RTFM on them, new to the whole debian based business
[07:05] <neofeed> is it normal that I see some of these [02\nAD]  fields?
[07:05] <neofeed> http://mdot.mine.nu/~moritz/XSLCharMap.png (example)
[07:06] <cblack> you can download marillat's mplayer debs.
[07:06] <MeMa|Sorcerer> hi
[07:06] <bascule> eskilo: chances are you need -dev versions of the libraries
[07:06] <cblack> aargh. wrong channel. hehe
[07:06] <bascule> it's the usual way of binary distros
[07:06] <serion> quick question.  how can i access my data files on my windows 2k install from a livecd?
[07:06] <bascule> libcrypt-dev an so on
[07:06] <eskilo> bascule:  okay.  but a local compile can see libs in both /usr/lib/ and /usr/local/lib right?
[07:07] <bascule> it should check both in ./configure, there are also enviroment variables that are looked to
[07:08] <maggijons> hey. how do I force k3b in ubuntu to realize that I have a combo cd burner?
[07:08] <krister> I want to enable a "dummy/virtual" disolay :0.1, how do i do this? Is it /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 i have to edit?
[07:09] <eskilo> the dev libs fixed everyhing bascule...thanks
[07:09] <bascule> np
[07:09] <AngryClip> hmmm, how comes when I ctrl + alt + f1 to another terminal all I get is a blank, black screen? I can still ctrl + alt +f7 into xfce
[07:10] <[NikO] > nobody know how to sleep during 5 sec the boot ?
[07:10] <Hymie> anyone get x.org evdev working?
[07:11] <bascule> [NikO] : s/during/for ;P
[07:11] <bascule> lol
[07:12] <[NikO] > if i try boot linux apci=false ?
[07:13] <zombics> ther is a binary pack for ubuntu AMD64 of wine?
[07:13] <Ribs> zombics: no
[07:13] <Ribs> you should be okay with the i386 package, however
[07:14] <zombics> Ribs, to compile it whold be better, no?
[07:14] <Ribs> erm, no?
[07:14] <Ribs> What do you hope to achieve by compiling it?
[07:14] <arbeck> for some reason in rhythmbox I can't edit the tags of any of my .flac files, any ideas?
[07:15] <zombics> Ribs, nothig....
[07:15] <Ribs> So why bother compiling it/
[07:15] <Ribs> ?
[07:16] <bascule> [NikO] : http://www.simonf.com/usb/ <-- might be useful
[07:17] <Xappe> finally a nice cursor again. got tired of waiting so I learned how to install one myself
[07:17] <[NikO] > i read it before come here, i m linux noob :)
[07:17] <cblack> anyone using NetworkManager in Hoary and managed to get the applet to show up?
[07:18] <bascule> ah, it's a tricky procedure then, but it makes sense what is said, just rty it ... ;-/
[07:18] <marjan> is there the newer kernel then <IP_ADDRESS> for warty?
[07:19] <Ribs> marjan: not for Warty
[07:19] <marjan> because otherway i can use k3b only as root
[07:19] <marjan> or it recongises my burner only as reader
[07:20] <rapha> When a package is so horribly broken that it can not be "apt-get remove"'d, how do you tell apt-get that the f*** you'll remove it yourself and it shall take it out of its database?
[07:20] <sig_ubuntu> marjan: dude, change ownership permissions
[07:20] <vjaz> join #ubuntu-fi
[07:20] <marjan> sig_ubuntu, sure
[07:20] <vjaz> orgh
[07:20] <zombics> Ribs, wheere i can find the binary for wine?
[07:20] <marjan> sig_ubuntu, they are correct
[07:20] <marjan> sig_ubuntu, this is the problem with 2.6.8 kernel
[07:21] <sig_ubuntu> apt-get --purge remove packagename rapha
[07:21] <marjan> exec -o ls -l /dev/sr0
[07:21] <marjan> brw-rw----    1 root     burning   11,   0 2005-02-12 18:51 /dev/sr0
[07:21] <Ribs> zombics: The wine homepage, naturally
[07:21] <marjan> crw-rw-rw-    1 root     cdrom     21,   0 2005-02-12 18:51 /dev/sg0
[07:21] <marjan> marjan adm dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev lpadmin scanner burning
[07:21] <Ribs> zombics: I forget how good Ubuntu's 32-bit support is, wine may not work
[07:21] <rapha> Thx sig_ubuntu
[07:22] <sig_ubuntu> rapha: did that work?
[07:22] <rapha> Nope
[07:22] <rapha> sig_ubuntu: It's still spewing out its errors and I can repeat the command over and over, it won't change.
[07:23] <sig_ubuntu> odd
[07:23] <rapha> Ya
[07:23] <krister> i need this to work: For fullscreen mode, if you modify your XF86Config file (or XOrg.conf, on the newest
[07:23] <krister> systems) to enable the 'dummy' (virtual) display on screen :0.1, then GNOME will use both
[07:23] <eskilo> anyone know why ubuntu doesn't actually turn my computer off when i shut down, whereas in slackware it was no problem?
[07:23] <krister> DISPLAYs and you can either run "magnifier -f -s:0.1 -t:0.0" or configure
[07:23] <krister> gnopernicus to do fullscreen magnification using source :0.1 and target :0.0 (by editing
[07:23] <krister> the 'default zoomer' from the gnopernicus magnification preferences dialog).
[07:23] <rapha> Any other idea sig_ubuntu?
[07:23] <delltony> where do you get wxPython so you can run python apps like bittornado?
[07:23] <krister> but i do not know what do edit in the file
[07:23] <zzyber> does dvdrip installs on ubuntu hoary?
[07:23] <sig_ubuntu> rapha: when I get back later, I have to go now sorry
[07:23] <rapha> zzyber: positive
[07:24] <bascule> eskilo: kernel patches, mdk shut this thing down ubuntu doesn't nor does my custom
[07:24] <rapha> Okay, thx anyways
[07:24] <zzyber> rapha, i get dvdrip: Depends: transcode (>= 2:0.6.14)
[07:24] <rapha> zzyber: So install transcode then
[07:25] <eskilo> kernel patches? is it worth the time?
[07:25] <arbeck> Can someone suggest a good program for burning audio cd's?
[07:26] <eskilo> zzyber:  you should use thoggen
[07:26] <isah> plz, i need help. where can i set default sound device?
[07:26] <zzyber> eskilo, what is thoggen?
[07:26] <plagerism> arbeck, k3b
[07:26] <rapha> eskilo: Yes, and what repository is it in?
[07:27] <arbeck> plagerism, I was hoping for something other than k3b
[07:27] <zzyber> eskilo, ah, you meen instead of dvdrip
[07:27] <delltony> i had the smae problem with transcodes and all here read this it will help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7057.html
[07:28] <godo> try gnomebaker
[07:28] <serion> yo, anyone know how to mount my windows 2k hard drives while im running off a live cd
[07:28] <godo> arbek
[07:28] <plagerism> delltony, libavifile will be in hoary universe tomorrow, and you can pick up amd64 transcode from merillat
[07:28] <krister> isah: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base, maybe :)
[07:29] <ups> zzyber: you'll need to add Marillat repo to get transcode/dvdrip to work
[07:29] <zzyber> ups, i have marillat but it wont work?
[07:29] <bascule> eskilo: probably not worth th time acpi=force is one I have heard work, but who knows ...
[07:30] <eskilo> zzyber:  thoggen is a great dvd ripper app
[07:30] <ups> zzyber: are u sure? does it give some gpg error?
[07:30] <delltony> hoary borked me :(
[07:30] <eskilo> and it encodes to theora!
[07:30] <delltony> when i tried to upgrade it
[07:30] <delltony> had to put warty bck on
[07:30] <zzyber> eskilo, can i find thoggen in some repo?
[07:30] <delltony> can someone help me get python working please
[07:30] <zzyber> ups, i have ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/
[07:31] <farruinn> delltony: what's the problem first?
[07:32] <arbeck> godo: gnomebaker looks alright, but I really need something that does flac... so far the only thing I've found is serpentine
[07:32] <farruinn> there's so much python in Ubuntu I would've thought it'd "just work"
[07:32] <delltony> trying to get bittornado to run
[07:32] <delltony> gives me the following error hang on
[07:32] <ups> zzyber: did you do 'reload' in synaptic?
[07:32] <AngryClip> delltony: azureus is much better btw :D
[07:32] <godo> arbeck, ?
[07:32] <delltony> well i have used both
[07:33] <delltony> i like bittornado better just matter of opinion
[07:33] <delltony> wxPython is either not installed or has not been installed properly.
[07:33] <farruinn> did you install bittornado through apt?
[07:33] <eskilo> zzyber:  thoggen.net/download
[07:33] <zzyber> ups, i get Depends: transcode but it is not going to be installed
[07:33] <arbeck> godo, according to the gnomebaker site it does: WAV, MP3, and OGG... all my music is stored as FLAC
[07:34] <zzyber> eskilo, checking
[07:34] <ups> zzyber: yes, but did u do the reload?
[07:34] <andrewski> how do i set my LANG and other variables system-wide?
[07:34] <dud> andrewski, /etc/bash.bashrc
[07:34] <delltony> so how do you get wxpython to install?
[07:35] <dud> assuming you're using bash as your shell
[07:35] <zzyber> ups, yes
[07:35] <andrewski> dud: ok, thanks.  there's no general rc file that would be better suited for it?
[07:35] <ups> zzyber: and it didnt give you some gpg warning message?
[07:35] <serion> any1 know how to access my hard drive from a livecd?
[07:35] <andrewski> serion: mount it?
[07:37] <zzyber> ups, no gpg warning becouse i have installed marillat gpg key
[07:37] <grogoreo> hi
[07:37] <ups> zzyber: weird, i got it working today - and dvdrip installed fine
[07:38] <ups> zzyber: alongwith transcode, ofcourse
[07:39] <zzyber> ups, strange, do u use hoarty?
[07:39] <grogoreo> I'm trying to add a new respository but there is an erorr when I select a new one from the 'Synaptic Package Manager' saying "stat (2 No such file or directory)" which is after the URL
[07:39] <ups> zzyber: yes
[07:39] <serion> andrewski, yeah, thats it
[07:39] <serion> how do i do that?
[07:39] <zzyber> ups, are u using marillat testing, unstable or stable?
[07:39] <andrewski> serion: so there's no general rc?
[07:40] <grogoreo> I basically want the universe respository to be active. even if I have to use the normal ubuntu one (which isnt working)
[07:40] <ups> zzyber: unstable
[07:40] <serion> nope
[07:41] <andrewski> serion: hmm, what if another user wants to use a different shell?  i think that's a shortcoming; i'll file an enhancement bug in bugzilla.
[07:41] <Morgenstjerne> did I understand the forums correctly in taht there is no way to install ubuntu from the livecd?
[07:42] <serion> k
[07:43] <zzyber> ups, can u send me your souce.list
[07:43] <ups> zzyber: k, sec
[07:43] <zzyber> ups
[07:43] <zzyber> ups, now it works
[07:43] <ups> hmm
[07:44] <zzyber> ups, i did a apt-get -f install
[07:44] <zzyber> ups, but thx anyway
[07:44] <ceu> my scanner is unavailable to common user (only to root), it it's plugged at boot time. If I unplug and plug it, it works flawlessy (the file permissions in /proc/bus/usb/ are correct)
[07:44] <ups> zzyber: np :)
[07:44] <ceu> it that a know bug of warty?
[07:45] <devo> Can someone help me with a Gnome problem I have with Ubuntu?  I wanted to consolidate the panel bars into one single one at the bottom of the page and thought I'd gotten everything migrated to just one bar (the one from the top moved to the bottom) but I found that I lost the ability to toggle between running applications.  Anyway of recovering that function short of a re-install?
[07:46] <ups> farruinn: u mean bugzilla.ubuntu.com ;)
[07:46] <farruinn> ups: yeah, that one :)
[07:46] <umarmung> devo, add the windowlist to your panel
[07:47] <bascule> devo: add window-switcher?
[07:47] <bascule> umarmung: windowlist is the one yeah
[07:47] <ups> farruinn: :)
[07:48] <umarmung> bascule, well both can do what he wants...
[07:48] <farruinn> I just installed warty on B&W G3 but I get a kernel panic after rebooting to finish the install.
[07:48] <vi11e> how do I make permanent alias ? I have to save my alias command to which bash files?
[07:49] <vi11e> Do I need to create a new file?
[07:49] <farruinn> I get two lines before the panic: pivot_root: No such file or directory and /sbin/init: 429: cannot open dev/console: no such file
[07:49] <farruinn> vi11e: .profile or .bashrc are both loaded
[07:49] <farruinn> there may be advantages to putting it into one or the other but I've forgotten what they are
[07:50] <Loppan> farruinn: looks like wrong root partition in grub.conf
[07:50] <bascule> .bashrc is best cause it is used at all shells, login or not IIRC
[07:50] <devo> umarmung and bascule: that did it.  sorta.  do I need to put it on all workspaces now?
[07:50] <Loppan> farruinn: and is that an old world mac G3 you're talking about?
[07:51] <zombics> whats the commad that will download all you need to compile a program?
[07:51] <vi11e> I'll try
[07:51] <farruinn> Loppan: no, B&W G3's are newworld
[07:51] <bascule> devo: don't think so, but by default it only shows windows from current workspace
[07:51] <Loppan> farruinn: darn, got an old world just sitting dead on my desktop :(
[07:51] <speel> zombics: sudo apt-get build-essential*
[07:52] <Loppan> farruinn: hoped that it would do for ubuntu, could always try I guess
[07:52] <devo> bascule: it looks somehow different from the other setup.  I guess the space constraint makes it looks that way.
[07:52] <devo> Anyhow, we're back in business.  Thanks, bascule and unarmung!
[07:52] <farruinn> Loppan: I actually installed Ubuntu on an oldworld with less trouble than this =)
[07:52] <Loppan> farruinn: ok, I'm heading for the iso download!
[07:52] <bascule> could be, the windows seem to dynamically resize, after more apps have been open, the open ones get a smaller 'button' ..
[07:53] <Loppan> farruinn: and I got that exact same message on a gentoommachine yesterday, turned out I wrote the wrong rootpartition in grub.conf
[07:53] <farruinn> Loppan: check the InstallOnOldWorldMacs wiki page for instructions
[07:54] <Loppan> farruinn: thanks, will do
[07:54] <devo> bascule: yep.  that's it. i may just have to trim back on some of the buttons or make some drawers.
[07:55] <bascule> different menu would be better drawers suck cause they only hold 2 things
[07:55] <devo> I'm really liking Ubuntu.  This distro might be the tipping point for Linux on the desktop.
[07:55] <coobra> hello ppl
[07:55] <andrewski> devo: yes, it's very promising.
[07:56] <flowerss> devo you're right.  It has a few rough edges but it's definitely a great start
[07:56] <farruinn> ubuntu's the best desktop linux I've found
[07:56] <zombics> speel, are you sure?
[07:56] <coobra> do ubuntu suport 64 ??
[07:56] <bascule> I think it's a good example of where linux is at, linux is tipping that way all the time, Ubuntu is a nice 'snapshot' of the latest advances
[07:57] <zzyber> does gnomebaker burn iso and encode mp3?
[07:57] <zombics> coobra, yea
[07:57] <devo> Any word of what advances are planed for Hedgehog?
[07:57] <flowerss> Ubuntu needs a default CD burner
[07:57] <devo> Flowerss: yes, that's a major weakness.  and no easy install of mplayer.
[07:58] <bascule> I got mplayer easy I think ...
[07:58] <flowerss> devo yeah, although I usually use xine, which was easy enough to install.
[07:58] <devo> I have another problem.  No sound with Totem when playing mpg.
[07:58] <bascule> gstreamer0.8-mad might do it
[07:58] <devo> I've been thinking of disabling esb (sp?)
[07:58] <arbeck> slight problem... i rebooted my machine and my panel is gone!  how do it get it back??
[07:58] <bascule> disable all gnome sounds IMO
[07:58] <coobra> zombics:  ohhh isit in the forum i hawe been drinking some beers
[07:58] <bascule> It's the only way to be sure ;)
[07:59] <bascule> drum sounds are OK for about 10 mins, then they can dissappear
[07:59] <devo> bascule: is that in the Gconf area that i've been considering tweaking?
[07:59] <devo> under sounds
[07:59] <bascule> nah just preferences sound
[07:59] <bascule> tell it to shut-up :)
[07:59] <Sniper^> i have a pc with an HPT external IDE controller, and it can not boot from CD, is there a way to start the ubunu install process from a floppy?
[08:00] <devo> bascule: but I want it to speak.  :)  My Totem shows the video but has no sound.
[08:00] <orospakr> Hi! I did a dist-upgrade on my ubuntu warty box the other day, and the samba daemons quit working. now all connections to them just time out. even `smbpasswd` run locally times out.. any thoughts? :)
[08:00] <zombics> coobra, no problem ;) i'm not "fresh" myslef :P
[08:00] <devo> orospakr: I did it the other day too.  All went well.  Maybe try again?
[08:01] <bascule> devo: try killall esd, then restart totem
[08:01] <orospakr> and, also, /etc/init.d/samba stop fails to actuallly kill all the esd daemons...
[08:01] <orospakr> er
[08:01] <orospakr> smbd.
[08:01] <orospakr> devo, hmmm
[08:01] <ertz> hello!...
[08:01] <ceu> is this apt-conf line correct? "deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports warty-backports main universe multiverse restricted"
[08:01] <coobra> zombics: heh your nick is saying you are dead and walking so heheh
[08:02] <ertz> i need a quick answer... i'm not a user of ubuntu linux, i just want to ask you if ubuntu warty includes QT?
[08:02] <zenrox> ertz yes
[08:02] <sladen> ertz: qt?
[08:02] <zenrox> after you enable all the rpostires
[08:02] <ertz> zenrox: thanks!... is it at least qt 3.2?
[08:02] <sladen> ertz: Quicktime, or Qt as in KDE?
[08:02] <zenrox> tho
[08:02] <vjaz> ertz, not by default
[08:02] <ertz> sladen: Qt as in KDE
[08:02] <zenrox> ertz yes
[08:02] <orospakr> it will be in the universe repository, afaik.
[08:03] <coobra> Loppan: :)))
[08:03] <devo> bascule: no dice with the killall esd and restart.  still no sound.
[08:03] <ertz> ok, so in the default installations it's not included..
[08:03] <zombics> coobra, i'm not dead yet.... but if i will go on like this i guss i dont have much time
[08:03] <farruinn> should yaboot.conf show my master drive on the first ide bus as hdc?!
[08:03] <bascule> devo: will rhtythmbox/xmms play mp3s
[08:03] <ertz> will synaptic download and install qt correctly?
[08:03] <dud> hoary has 3.3.3 of qt at the moment it seems
[08:04] <sladen> devo: esdctl off  ;  esdctl on
[08:04] <coobra> zombics: whit what hm computers or what :)
[08:04] <sladen> farruinn: probably hda ?
[08:04] <arbeck> Does anyone know how I can add a new panel to gnome? my panel dissapeared after reboot and I'm finding it very hard to function without it
[08:04] <sladen> arbeck: have *all* the panels disappeared?
[08:04] <zzyber> so does anyone have ati radeon working on ubuntu?
[08:05] <devo> bascule: xmms plays streaming okay.  will have do d/l a mp3 to see on the other.
[08:05] <arbeck> sladen: yes
[08:05] <arbeck> sladen: i only had one to begin with though
[08:05] <zombics> coobra, no... the shit i enter my body.... and linux does not help ^_^
[08:05] <farruinn> sladen: that's what I would expect, but both the OS X and linux entrie are listed as being on hdc.  OS X will boot but not linux.
[08:05] <GammaRay> ertz: did for me when I installed kword.
[08:05] <sladen> arbeck: there's a race conditioin somewhere.  Alt-Ctrl-F2  login   and type   killall5
[08:05] <sladen> arbeck: X will restart and hopefully it'll be already again
[08:05] <coobra> zombics: hehehehehe lol true :P
[08:05] <devo> sladen: is that two command line comments esdctl off and then esdctl on?
[08:05] <bascule> if it streams mp3, I guess your ok but try apt-get install gstramer0.8-mad
[08:05] <bascule> gstreamer*
[08:05] <coobra> zombics:  well try a gentoo install then :P
[08:05] <sladen> ertz: yes, synaptic/apt-get will install all the Qt/KDE stuff you need
[08:06] <vi11e> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:06] <vi11e> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:06] <vi11e> is only available from another source
[08:06] <ertz> thanks a lot guys!
[08:06] <vi11e> humm
[08:06] <sladen> devo: the ';' semi-colon means you can run the two commands one after each other on the same line
[08:06] <devo> sladen: okay.  thanks.  will try.
[08:06] <arbeck> sladen: that didn't do it
[08:07] <sladen> vi11e: it's probably in multiverse (legally questionable stuff)
[08:07] <sladen> arbeck: did X restart ?
[08:07] <sladen> arbeck: or try   pkill -u $USER
[08:07] <arbeck> sladen: yes, x restarted
[08:07] <vi11e> sladen hmm, oh... where can I get a deb for that?
[08:07] <devo> sladen: "esdctl not found"
[08:07] <arbeck> let me try it again
[08:07] <zombics> coobra, did it... loved gentoo.... and i found out its not so hard after every thing is working... but the install bhaaaa :( i wanted to insall it but i was too lazy after i got my new PC
[08:08] <sladen> devo: sudo apt-get install esound-clients
[08:10] <coobra> zombics: lol true
[08:11] <froust> does anyone know how to use openoffice's autocomplete (it does it, i just don't know how to make it finish the word)
[08:11] <bascule> return
[08:12] <arbeck> sladen: my panel is still gone
[08:13] <froust> bascule: thanks
[08:13] <sladen> arbeck: arg.  I hadn't that a few times, but killing everything has normally sorted.  Is this warty of Hoary?
[08:13] <arbeck> warty
[08:14] <sladen> arbeck: and whilst it's an unusual request in the non-Windows world, have you tried a reboot?
[08:14] <arbeck> yep... i just got back from one
[08:14] <devo> sladen: installed and ran the off and on lines.  still totem runs with no sound.  just video
[08:14] <farruinn> devo: use gxine, it's better than gstreamer really
[08:14] <bascule> *much* better
[08:15] <bascule> well it works ... :)
[08:15] <umarmung> arbeck, start gnome-panel from a xterm
[08:15] <umarmung> arbeck, and make sure there isn't a gnome-panel already running but not showing up -> pkill gnome-panel
[08:16] <arbeck> it's telling me gnome-panel command not found
[08:16] <umarmung> arbeck, you somehow managed to remove it? try to apt-get it again
[08:16] <devo> bascule: gxine not found at the command line
[08:17] <zombics> what's the best way to install wine on ubuntu 64-Bit?
[08:17] <arbeck> EUREKA... i think I know what happened... i used synaptic to remove evolution, and I think it removed a whole bunch of stuff it shouldn't have
[08:17] <bascule> xine
[08:17] <bascule> if not apt-cache serch gxine
[08:17] <Tomcat_> gxine is crashy for me. :o
[08:17] <Tomcat_> Get xine-ui.
[08:17] <devo> bascule: xine not found either.
[08:17] <bascule> sudo apt-get install gxine
[08:18] <zombics> Tomcat_, what are you trying to do?
[08:18] <arbeck> umarmung, what is the package name?
[08:19] <Tomcat_> zombics: To crash gxine? Just playing movies :)
[08:19] <Tomcat_> zombics: It might have improved now though. Don't know... but it can't be too good if it crashes on a fresh Ubuntu install. :)
[08:19] <bascule> Tomcat_: some people it's mplayer some xine ..
[08:19] <bascule> just as well there is two really :)
[08:20] <zombics> Tomcat_ i found kaffeine very good
[08:20] <devo> bascule: gxine installed okay and worked fine until a seg fault.  :)
[08:20] <devo> close but no cigar yet.  :)
[08:20] <rubixXx> whats a nice fast filesystem for storing data
[08:20] <bascule> OKFG, what can I say ...
[08:20] <bascule> rubixXx: reiser
[08:21] <zombics> rubixXx, ntfs :P
[08:21] <rubixXx> alright, thanks
[08:21] <rubixXx> what is faster though
[08:21] <Neil3> reiser is aparantly faster
[08:21] <Neil3> than ext3 is anyway
[08:21] <devo> and tidier
[08:21] <rubixXx> bascule, you kick it in #mandrake don't ya
[08:23] <auk__> hello
[08:23] <speel> reiser isant dramaticly faster tho
[08:23] <Neil3> hi
[08:23] <Neil3> wooo the wind is howling outside tonight
[08:24] <scoon> WHAT A GREAT DAY
[08:24] <scoon> yesterday i got the job of my dreams.
[08:24] <scoon> and today.....
[08:24] <Neil3> congrats scoon
[08:24] <andrewski> scoon: congrats.
[08:24] <Neil3> what do you do?
[08:24] <scoon> today, rhythmbox read in all 20gigs of my music w/o crapping.
[08:24] <Neil3> :)
[08:24] <andrewski> scoon: lol, which is better?
[08:24] <scoon> Neil3, i will be a lead perl developer for a bio-tech comp
[08:25] <Neil3> nice one
[08:25] <scoon> andrewski, i don't know.
[08:25] <scoon> andrewski, sometimes i think i love rhythmbox as much as perl.
[08:25] <andrewski> scoon: as i often mention, mpd!
[08:25] <Neil3> had problems with rhythmbox myself
[08:25] <Neil3> once i ditched esd it was just bad
[08:25] <andrewski> scoon: not to discourage rhythmbox or to start flames, but i find mpd is much much better. :)
[08:25] <scoon> Neil3, as did I, even stopped using it for a while.
[08:26] <scoon> andrewski, what is mpd ?
[08:26] <Neil3> but i use totem-xine for everything
[08:26] <Neil3> it just seems gstreamer stuff has trouble for me
[08:26] <Neil3> maybe my cruddy sound card
[08:26] <ghen> I apt-get'ed postgresql, but I can't find the binaries ... how can I list the files installed by a package?
[08:26] <andrewski> scoon: music player daemon, runs as a system service and you control it with frontends (command line, GUI, PHP).  musicpd.org
[08:27] <rubixXx> is there a way to "unmount" /dev/hda5
[08:27] <Neil3> i got lm_sensors working too today :)
[08:27] <ghen> rubixXx; what about umount /dev/hda5 ? :-)
[08:27] <rubixXx> its not mounted
[08:27] <rubixXx> but i don't wanna unmount it, i wanna have the device not in use so i can format the partition
[08:27] <rubixXx> its on the same hdd i'm using to run the os tho
[08:28] <scoon> andrewski, it looks cool.  i really like the interface of rhythmbox
[08:28] <Neil3> ubuntu feels a lot faster than fedora on my system, now i'm thinking, would gentoo be even quicker?
[08:28] <scoon> Neil3, let me give you some advice
[08:28] <rubixXx> Neil3, no
[08:28] <scoon> Neil3, i am a recovering emerge-a-holic
[08:28] <rubixXx> Neil3, gentoo has to be uberfast because you getta compile everything
[08:29] <scoon> rubixXx, no.
[08:29] <rubixXx> it was a joke
[08:29] <scoon> rubixXx, not by a long shot
[08:29] <scoon> rubenv, sweet.
[08:29] <scoon> sorry
[08:29] <andrewski> scoon: yeah, i used it for a while, but i find that gmpc (the GTK frontend) is good.
[08:29] <Neil3> so it wouldnt give a performance boost?
[08:29] <Neil3> i did a bunch of tweaking here
[08:29] <rubixXx> Neil3, yea, but it takes a long time to install
[08:30] <Neil3> hdparm, k7 kernel etc
[08:30] <scoon> Neil3, not really.  you would spend days getting gnome compiled before you could even use it.
[08:30] <Neil3> and prelink works well with ubuntu so far
[08:30] <scoon> the truth of the matter is for compiling, emerege is a very cool, albiet addicting, tool.
[08:30] <scoon> but the idea of compiling everything is a drag
[08:30] <andrewski> Neil3: what's prelink?
[08:31] <scoon> oh and addicting.
[08:31] <Neil3> yeah i can see the appeal of compiling everything so its specially for you
[08:31] <andrewski> scoon: yes, exactly.
[08:31] <scoon> not worth it tho.
[08:31] <andrewski> yup.
[08:31] <Neil3> prelink prelinks libraries and binaries or something for faster loading of programs
[08:31] <scoon> every once and a while i think about installing it over this.
[08:31] <scoon> but then just don't
[08:31] <andrewski> Neil3: memory-intensive?
[08:31] <Neil3> not at all
[08:31] <scoon> hoary pretty much quenches my thirsts for bleeding edge
[08:31] <Neil3> its just something that runs once
[08:31] <timothy> hey, I had the GRUB boot loader installed on my booting drive and was booting between two hard drives: one with windows and the other Ubunutu. I just reinstalled Windows and formatted the hdd that contained windows (and incidentally the GRUB boot loader). How can I reinstall GRUB/get back to my Ubuntu installation?
[08:31] <andrewski> Neil3: wow, is there doc for setting it up?
[08:31] <rubenv> scoon: ain't the first time someone does that :-)
[08:32] <Neil3> and then again every midnight to link new stuff you might have installed
[08:32] <sladen> timothy: sudo install-grub
[08:32] <Neil3> sudo install prelink
[08:32] <Neil3> then you have to edit a file
[08:32] <timothy> sladen: how about from windows? because now I'm not quite sure how to get back into Ubuntu
[08:32] <andrewski> Neil3: ok, i'll check it out.
[08:32] <Neil3> lemme find the info
[08:32] <andrewski> Neil3: that'd be great.
[08:33] <sladen> timothy: stick the install CD, wait until you've set the keyboard settings,  Alt-F2 [Enter]  mount /dev/hdaX /sysinst ; chroot /bin/sh /sysinst ; install-grub
[08:33] <Neil3> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1971
[08:34] <timothy> sladen: hdaX being the booting hard drive (windows)?
[08:35] <sladen> timothy: being the partition with Ubuntu on it.  Eg  /dev/hda2
[08:35] <Neil3> also
[08:35] <Neil3> when you've installed prelink do
[08:35] <Neil3> sudo oooprelink -f
[08:35] <Olivier_54> yo
[08:35] <Neil3> that speeds up openoffice
[08:35] <andrewski> Neil3: and it just runs once (per day)?
[08:35] <Neil3> yeah
[08:36] <Neil3> and does nothing if you've installed or upgraded nothing in that time