[01:34] <pleia2> ok guys, meeting in 25, anyone have anything to add to the Agenda?
[01:55] <pleia2> 5 minutes until meeting, anyone here? :)
[02:01] <pleia2> anyone?
[02:01] <pleia2> cprofitt: you about?
[02:02]  * bodhi_zazen listens to crickets chirping
[02:02] <cprofitt> pleia2, I am here
[02:02] <bodhi_zazen> you willing to chair ?
[02:02] <cprofitt> I am... we have no topics though
[02:02] <pleia2> Vantrax: how about you?
[02:03] <pleia2> we'll make some up
[02:03] <pleia2> 15:52:36 < doctormo> pleia2, cproffit, Vantrax, greg-g, bodi-zazen: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/learning/command-line/ <- I now have pdfs of all the materials required to teach the command line basics class. Everything is draft obviously.
[02:03] <pleia2> like that
[02:03] <pleia2> also, did we decide to move forward with doctormo's contacts with lawyer people?
[02:59] <pleia2> thanks everyone :) great meeting
[02:59] <Vantrax> he he he
[02:59] <Vantrax> sorry that im not around much atm, very busy at work till next week
[03:00] <pleia2> understandable
[03:00] <cprofitt> I am here
[03:01] <pleia2> :)
[03:01] <cprofitt> any out of the meeting things to discuss
[03:03] <bodhi_zazen> thanks cprofitt
[03:03] <cprofitt> no problem
[03:03] <cprofitt> just try to do what I can
[16:49] <doctormo> Arg, sorry for the team meeting missing in action last night, I was fore warned and everything and had intended to attend from the SETC, but things got distracting, I appologise.
[16:49] <doctormo> Sounds like you guys had a productive meeting though
[16:51] <pleia2> yep :)
[16:52] <doctormo> pleia2: sorry about my attendance, at least I was teaching Ubuntu :-)
[16:52] <pleia2> yay
[16:57] <doctormo> And i get to teach Ubuntu again tonight, 2 nights a week! Well and I'll never get paid for anything at this rate and die as pennyless as Tom Paine.
[16:57] <doctormo> ;-P
[17:15] <pleia2> lol
[18:59] <ongun> hi


 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Seems like big differences in 3.2.8 though. We might need a updated KPM …], Which we're waiting on
 Makes sense.
 We need a new util-linux
 I have to check if Adam has done that yet.
[00:19] <wxl> what about getting 3.2.7 in the archives?
 That was up to Dan. I haven't had a chance to review his packaging yet
 I pushed it to stable CI
 Ok
[00:20] <wxl> maybe we should find someone else to do that
 I won't have time until at least after my Physics final next week
 I seriously have four essays to write
[00:20] <wxl> maybe generate a debdiff and we can find someone to work on it, @kc2bez
 I can handle giving it to people
 They'll want a debdiff though, yeah
 Ack. I can work with wxl on that.
[00:22] <wxl> it's pretty simple
 wxl: Why can't you just upload?
[00:23] <wxl> well i could i guess
[00:23] <wxl> i haven't really done any significant uploads
[00:23] <wxl> so who knows what the gotchas are
 Make sure there aren't any unnecessary changelog entries, that all of the changes are necessary and sane, and that the version is good
 Lintian will tell you the rest
 It's just like uploading to a PPA
 debuild -S -d -sa
[00:25] <wxl> that sounds a lot like "here's the keys to the car; don't crash it"
 dput ubuntu /path/to/source.changes
 Because it is. I trust your combined packaging ability enough on this to handwaive
 We have worse uploaders active right now XD
[00:26] <wxl> oh well that's reassuring i guess
 (nobody you'd know, I think)
[00:29] <wxl> it seems to make the most amount of sense to me to run this through phabricator as normal
 Ok
[00:29] <wxl> ^@kc2bez
 I can review a diff if I have a minute, but no promises
 Again, really tight scheduling and long nights ahead
[00:30] <wxl> yes yes shoo now
[00:31] <kc2bez> wxl: ack
[00:32] <kc2bez> probably won't be until this weekend but I should have some time.
 wxl: libfm-qt merged and uploaded
[16:39] <wxl> @acheronuk thank you much
 Hi, by chance does anyone know where to  find the -dev sources for qtwebengine: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=Qt5WebEngine&searchon=names&suite=disco&section=all
[18:48] <wxl> !info qtwebengine5-dev | @DarinMiller
[18:48] <wxl> also:
[18:48] <wxl> !info qtwebengine5-private-dev
[18:49] <wxl> note they're both from the same source package
 thx!
[18:49] <wxl> np
 I swear I apt searched for that....aweseome.... calameres is now builds with all features!


[00:07] <arcturus> Any issues installing ATI drivers (legacy) for an ATI HD4870 with this distro?
[00:12] <xixor> not sure.  I sold my 4870, and 4870x2 years ago
[00:16] <arcturus> what version of xorg does the latest kubuntu have?
[00:18] <dougl> I am having font issues with my kde installed with kubuntu 12.10 - the font size when I 'kdesu systemsetting' is so small it is unreadable and not sure if it is related but I get a message when I launch apps from cli 'Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.' Anyone have any suggestions?
[00:18] <SIR_Taco__> arcturus: 2xxx, 3xxx and 4xxx were dropped from the current proprietary driver (frglx), haven't tried the legacy drivers. Everything I see says that the legacy drivers do work though
[00:18] <dougl> my kmail and kate applications display normal sized fonts but when I print the font is huge on the printout
[00:19] <SIR_Taco__> *fglrx
[00:20] <SIR_Taco__> arcturus: 1.13
[00:23] <SIR_Taco__> dougl: doesn't really seem to help since it's unresolved, but: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesudo-kde4/+bug/632503
[00:24] <dougl> SIR_Taco__, maybe will cure my curiosity - thanks
[00:25] <SIR_Taco__> dougl: wonder what would happen if you moved the ~/.fonts.conf temporarily to see what happens?
[00:25] <dougl> no effect
[00:28] <SIR_Taco__> dougl: mine aren't super small, but it is definitely a different font settings between the two
[00:31] <SIR_Taco__> dougl: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/archive/index.php/t-56517.html  possibly try following the option in the 3rd comment
[00:36] <dougl> SIR_Taco__, thanks
[00:53] <Scunizi> robtygart: sorry.. i've been going through 5k of photos looking for ones of my son.. I will be upgrading soon. This is my production machine and I do work with it all the time.  Typically to upgrade I have to reinstall root leaving my /home on another partition. Then install all the stuff I typically have. It's a pain.
[00:54] <robtygart> Scunizi: Sounds fun!
[00:57] <robtygart> I am in no hurry to upgrade again.
[01:00] <XiaYixuan> hi
[01:00] <XiaYixuan> I am very sad
[01:01] <XiaYixuan> I can't seem to be playing any video with Chinese subtitles
[01:01] <XiaYixuan> Dragon Player: fail. xine: fail
[01:01] <XiaYixuan> it's a double fail!
[01:03] <XiaYixuan> http://www.obicn.com/Operating-Systems/Make-xine-play-movie-with-Chinese-subtitle.htm
[01:03] <XiaYixuan> I found this, but it's no help
[01:03] <XiaYixuan> it's written for advanced users ._.
[01:20] <MySystem> hello i search a calculator with many funktions and history/chronic
[01:20] <MySystem> does anybody know a good one
[01:21] <Obsidian1723> did you check google?
[01:22] <MySystem> dont know how the list of executed caslculations is called
[01:22] <Obsidian1723> search in the software center or on google.
[01:23] <MySystem> for which word calculator and how is this list called
[01:24] <Obsidian1723> Sorry, I can't tell you how to use google.
[01:24] <zacarias> Hi. Is there a way to search for files by date created or modified (instead of just by name or content)? Using Dolphin or another tool?
[01:24] <MySystem> the prob is not google the prob is the translation
[01:25] <MySystem> and google doesnt tell me how usefull the calculator is so i asked here to get sugestions
[01:29] <MySystem> zacarias the only iidea with dolphin i have is a search in the folder and sub for * and then sort the detail list by date
[01:30] <XiaYixuan> hi
[01:30] <XiaYixuan> Obsidian1723, can you tell me how to parse the text once I found the answer through google?
[01:34] <zacarias> MySystem: yes, but with that you still have to enter the name first, and you can't list all your files created on a certain date, for instance
[01:38] <MySystem> as name use wildcard * but yes it lists all files and you have to go to the position of the date you search in list
[01:40] <MySystem> with gui i sadly dont know any other option
[01:42] <zacarias> MySystem: I don't even see a column with date after the search (just "name" and "location"). And with CLI, how can I do that?
[01:44] <OerHeks> search last modified on Cli >  find -type f -exec stat -c "%y %n" {} + | sort -r | head
[01:46] <MySystem> thx oerheks your way looks much better
[01:46] <OerHeks> found @ http://askubuntu.com/questions/61179/find-the-latest-file-by-modified-date
[01:46] <OerHeks> Also Dolphin should be able too, but i cannot find a howto.
[01:51] <MySystem> zacarias found a gui app sudo apt-get install kfind
[01:52] <zacarias> Thanks!
[01:52] <JuJuBee> I created a program shortcut (launcher?) in my K-menu but the icon won't stick.
[01:53] <silouck> i cant start apps from dolphin root, can anyone confirm?
[01:56] <MySystem> jujubee dont get the meening of stick
[01:56] <MySystem> sry translation my english is not the best
[01:57] <zacarias> MySystem: Thanks
[01:58] <MySystem> np
[01:58] <JuJuBee> MySystem: When I add the icon either in the .desktop file or by right clicking on the k-menu and adding an item, the icon does not show only the text of the launcher
[02:01] <MySystem> jujubee this case i don't know but is the icon in one of the listet formats (*.png *.xpm *.svg *.svgz)
[02:03] <MySystem> jujubee the only other idea i have is the user/group which access the file dont have read access but this isnt much possible i think
[02:06] <robtygart> JuJuBee: it might be your icons. Try using a different Icon set (Thats if you changed it in the first place)
[02:07] <JuJuBee> MySystem: the rights on icons are rwxr-xr-x and they are .png files.
[02:08] <MySystem> jujubee then i sadly have no idea but if it is a system icon which is managed trhough icon packages then robtygart's idea sounds good
[02:09] <govcheese> sup
[02:11] <JuJuBee> If I use a system icon it stays.  Seems if I copyt the icon to my home dir, it works fine.  Strange...
[02:17] <MySystem> tell meif you figured out why jujubee sounds also strange to me
[02:18] <XiaYixuan> see ya
[03:29]  * jedihawk still has no life.
[05:34] <DarthFrog> jedihawk: I hear you can download one from the net.
[05:34] <jedihawk> ooo! perhaps you can give me mystical, magical URL?
[05:35] <DarthFrog> I haven't found it yet, sorry.  But it's rumoured to really exist. :-)
[05:37] <OerHeks> i cleared the log, what are you looking for, jedihawk ?
[05:39] <jedihawk> a life.  actually, I'm not really looking.  I'm quite happy here in linuxland.  :-)
[05:40] <OerHeks> ah, still looking for a deb :-D
[05:40] <DarthFrog> Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans.
[05:40] <OerHeks> i guess, build it yourself
[05:46] <jedihawk> life is for people who can't handle Skyrim.
[05:46] <jedihawk> in fact, my Skyrim life is much more interesting.
[05:46] <jedihawk> you may even want to date my Avatar.
[05:46] <jedihawk> (she's hotter than reality by far)
[05:46] <DarthFrog> jedihawk:  You're right.   I want to change its fonts
[07:32] <tsimpson> AKnot: no
[07:33] <tsimpson> but perhaps one of the people in #ubuntu know, worth a shot asking
[07:33] <AKnot> ill try
[07:58] <AKnot> I moved files from other hdd to main one. Now its "indexing" them. What does it mean?
[08:00] <OerHeks> indexing is making a DB with keywords to make searching faster, like Zeitgeist or in Kubuntu Nepomuk
[08:24] <AKnot> DB?
[08:26] <OerHeks> DB - database
[08:37] <AKnot> okt thanks
[08:57] <AKnot> OerHeks: i suspended one index before, can i do it again or is it no big deal?
[09:03] <OerHeks> AKnot, it is no big deal, you can start it again by opening nepomuk service
[09:04] <AKnot> ok
[09:32] <Promethes> how to set up kate as a default editor for all text files?
[10:31] <joedj> hey folks, a friend just did some apt updates, and can no longer use X. i'm trying to help him out
[10:31] <joedj> kdm comes up with the login screen. when logging in, the login screen disappears and he's left with a background image and a mouse cursor, but no further activity. this also happens with a new user
[10:32] <Odd-rationale> joedj: Is he on 12.10?
[10:33] <joedj> there are some errors about "QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave." in ~/.xsession-errors
[10:33] <joedj> Odd-rationale: 12.04 LTS
[10:34] <joedj> i installed twm and tried choosing that in kdm, same result
[10:34] <Odd-rationale> Can you login into a VT?
[10:35] <joedj> yeah
[10:35] <Odd-rationale> What happens when you run startx?
[10:35] <joedj> black screen
[10:35] <joedj> no mouse cursor
[10:35] <Odd-rationale> Any messages when you switch back to the VT?
[10:36] <joedj> (actually, it flashes the nvidia splash screen before the black one)
[10:36] <joedj> back on the VT there's "FATAL: Module off not found" as the last line
[10:37] <joedj> if i remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf that FATAL line goes away, still get the nvidia logo then black screen
[10:38] <joedj> there's an x-window-manager process running
[10:39] <Odd-rationale> Do you know whether the kernel got upgraded during that upgrade?
[10:39] <joedj> he thinks it may have
[10:39] <joedj> we have uninstalled and reinstalled "nvidia-current", and rebooted
[10:39] <Odd-rationale> You can check `less /var/log/apt/history.log`
[10:41] <joedj> yeah, looks like it
[10:41] <joedj> linux-image-3.2.0-32-generic:amd64
[10:42] <Odd-rationale> Have you tried with the Nouveau drivers just to see if it works?
[10:43] <joedj> i don't think so
[10:43] <joedj> how does one install that?
[10:44] <Odd-rationale> try: rmmod nvidia
[10:44] <Odd-rationale> then: modprobe nouveau
[10:45] <joedj> that gives FATA:L Module off not found
[10:45] <joedj> (my typo..)
[10:46] <Odd-rationale> is xserver-xorg-video-nouveau installed?
[10:46] <joedj> yep
[10:46] <joedj> i can try reinstalling it
[10:47] <joedj> didn't help
[10:47] <Odd-rationale> joedj: Googled around a little bit. This guy suggests uninstalling nouveau and installing updated nvidia drives from a PPA: https://www.benjaminwiedmann.net/fix-nouveau-driver-issues-on-ubuntu-12-04-install-nvidia-drivers.html
[11:30] <joedj> Odd-rationale: oh, twm _was_ working, it just had no eyecandy so i didn't realize. with twm i have a right-click menu
[11:35] <joedj> Odd-rationale: i think the issue is with KDE / the window manager, not the driver
[11:40] <navlelo_> joedj: I had an issue with corrupt configuration files in an earlier version of kubuntu which resulted in similar behaviour... you could try to backup the .kde folder, rename it, and let kde regenerate the configuration files
[11:40] <navlelo_> not sure if this is your problem tho, but it might be worth a shot
[11:41] <joedj> navlelo_: i'll give it a shot, though i created a new user which i thought would have ruled that sort of thing out
[11:50] <joedj> navlelo_: yeah, that didn't seem to help (rm -rf ~/.kde /var/tmp/kdecache*)  :(
[11:51] <navlelo_> joedj: too bad :(
[11:51] <navlelo_> i have no idea then :\
[11:52] <ws> hmm... what would be an advised partitioning scheme for a notebook (1tb hdd)?  I plan to keep several (a few millions) of small files on home partition
[11:52] <ws> (either home or a separate partition)
[11:54] <ws> is there a benefit for keeping a separate / partition in this case?  (would a huge number of small files lead to faster fragmentation of hdd?)
[11:55] <ws> also, should I consider MurderYourWifeFS instead of ext3 for this?
[11:55] <ws> err... I meant, RazerFS
[11:59] <joedj> screw it, installed xfce4, at least he can use that for now =P
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:03] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning BluesKaj
[12:04] <BluesKaj> 'morning mydogsnameisrudy ..how's it going ?
[12:04] <mydogsnameisrudy> to warm ;)
[12:05] <mydogsnameisrudy> had the window open all night
[12:05] <BluesKaj> raining and 10C/50F here
[12:05] <mydogsnameisrudy> ya about that here just no rain right now
[12:06] <BluesKaj> good , then it will end here soon then
[12:07] <BluesKaj> oops more coffee needed , repeating myself
[12:08] <Smurphy> Weird. Amarok has a weird behavior since latest updates -> 4.9.3 applied ... Hickups, stop playing a sing totally, and crashes ... *hmmm*
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, yeah amarok has been sfflicted with a bug of some sort
[12:09] <BluesKaj> afflicted
[12:10] <Smurphy> think so... s*cks ...
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, seen a few reports about it in the last few days ..dunno if a bug has been filed tho
[12:13] <Smurphy> can't reproduce it... Just happens.
[12:14] <BluesKaj> some error about wrong codecs then it doesn't shutdown when X'd keeps on playing without the icon in the panel etc
[12:19] <Smurphy> nah. Here - it just stops playing alltogether.
[12:19] <Smurphy> BTW - I realize I need to convert all AAC files I still have from apple to mp3 ... Anyone knows a nice tool to do that under kubuntu ? Command line will do.
[12:20] <BluesKaj> I've been using clementine , seems much easier to use , less clunky
[12:20] <tsimpson> ffmpeg is always good for converting
[12:21] <BluesKaj> won't any open source players play AAC ? why the need to convert
[12:21] <tsimpson> depends on what kind of AAC is it, some are basically MP4, others are some DRM thing
[12:22] <BluesKaj> soundkonverter works well for other conversions , never tried AAC tho
[12:24] <BluesKaj> tsimpson, what about batch conversion with ffmpeg ?
[12:25] <tsimpson> it does batch too
[12:25] <tsimpson> as well as being command-line, so you can just write a script or bash for-loop
[12:26] <Smurphy> yeah - had written a script long time ago to convert some stuff from youtube to mp4 using ffmpeg.
[12:30] <andrey_> test
[12:45] <gvandeweyer> hi, is it possible (yet?) to change the opacity of windows by <modifier>+scrollwheel in kubuntu 12.04 using kwin?
[12:45] <gvandeweyer> or is it still needed to install compiz for that?
[12:58] <gvandeweyer> is <modifier>+scrollwheel to change window-opacity available in pure kwin ?
[13:02] <Peace-> gvandeweyer: ask #kde
[13:06] <gvandeweyer> Peace-: I'll do
[13:46] <Graf_Westerholt> Why does Amarok needs 0,5GB RAM? When I start Amarok, Linux starts swaping for almost five minutes!
[14:06] <Obsidian1723> Graf_Westerholt: No idea why it does that. I switched to Banshee awhile ago. Less problems.
[14:09] <derron> I love kubuntu even more than the  gnome version..  but my kubuntu freezes occasionally..  I have an Acer Aspire notebook
[14:09] <derron> any idea?
[14:10] <Graf_Westerholt> derron, same problem here, but no fix.
[14:10] <Graf_Westerholt> Obsidian1723, thx, maybe I'll try it.
[14:11] <Obsidian1723> derron: You could always check the log files, see what's going on with it...\
[14:11] <derron> where can i find them? thanks
[14:12] <Obsidian1723> Graf_Westerholt: Yeah, I'm a bad user. I just don't care anymore. Unless it's ap rogram that I NEED and ONLY that program will suffice, fine... I'll do a bug report or look into it extensively, but if it's something like an audio player? I'll do a few things to see if I can correct it, but I'm not going to sit there and muddle through it for days, weeks, months... I'll just replace it. I'm not a programmer, developer, debugger, etc.
[14:13] <Obsidian1723> derron: In /var/log
[14:13] <Obsidian1723> derron: what version of KDE do you have?
[14:14] <derron> umm not sure.  im kinda still new to linux.. i have been using it alot but just web browsing and the basic stuff
[14:14] <Obsidian1723> gotcha. ok, open up the file manager (Dolphin) under Help is About KDE
[14:15] <Obsidian1723> 4.9.3 (which I have) is the latest release.
[14:15] <derron> i see its 4.9.2
[14:15] <Obsidian1723> You may want to update it.
[14:15] <derron> ok i will do that.. see if it helps
[14:15] <derron> thanks again
[14:15] <Obsidian1723> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:16] <Obsidian1723> also, what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[14:16] <derron> 12.10
[14:16] <Obsidian1723> lsb_release -a    <-- will show the version
[14:16] <Obsidian1723> ah
[14:17] <Obsidian1723> Well, to each their own on this, but I recommend staying with the LTS releases, 12.04 in this case.
[14:17] <derron> ya i might consider that if I encounter the freezing more...
[14:17] <Obsidian1723> LTS has 5 year support whereas the non-LTSes do not. Also, the non-LTSes aren't as stable. I know some people use them just fine, but in general, they are not.
[14:18] <Obsidian1723> Non-LTSes are really just betas for the NEXT LTS...
[14:18] <Obsidian1723> 14.04
[14:18] <derron> ya i guess... i just like to jump onto the next new thing
[14:18] <Obsidian1723> Nothing wrong with bleeding edge. That's why some people run Arch :D
[14:18] <Obsidian1723> I personally need stablity, so LTSes for me, and Debian
[14:19] <Xino> Hi, first time I try out this function:)
[14:19] <derron> ive been wanting to try arch...  doesnt work on my laptop for some reason
[14:20] <Obsidian1723> yeah, it's kinda flaey in some ways. Bleeding edge is a good way to learn.
[14:20] <Obsidian1723> flakey
[14:21] <Obsidian1723> I'd suggest trying it in a VM if you lack the number of physical machines to try any distro out on.
[14:21] <derron> Ya.. im just getting out of school for computers... getting my security+ soon..   i got my MTA for server
[14:21] <derron> so i want to try to learn more linux
[14:21] <derron> as well
[14:21] <Obsidian1723> You can also make a default installation snapshot, so if the system gets borked up (which it will while you learn), rolling back is easy/.
[14:22] <Obsidian1723> Sec+ is nice... I'm looking at the GSEC myself.
[14:22] <derron> gsec?
[14:22] <Obsidian1723> I currently have a DCSE, Network+, Linux+, 35 years experience.
[14:22] <derron> wow holy cow lol
[14:22] <Obsidian1723> GSEc, from GIAC
[14:22] <Obsidian1723> I'm actually going for an F5 cert next.... new job is paying for it.
[14:22] <derron> kudos...   u were there when linux first came out?
[14:23] <Obsidian1723> I was. I started on UNIX in 1978 actually.
[14:23] <derron> nice
[14:23] <Obsidian1723> Windows didn't exist for 7 years, MSFT was a 3 year old company, APPL was 2 years old, the web didn't exist for 12 more years.
[14:24] <Obsidian1723> I started @ age 11, I'm 45 now.
[14:25] <Obsidian1723> GSEC is a bit more hands  on then SEC+ is, but SEC+ is good... If yo uwant to get into security, you may want to focus on more of the hands on certs like GSEC, CEH, GCUX, etc, vs more administrative ones like CISSP.
[14:25] <derron> wow... wish i started when u did ...
[14:25] <Obsidian1723> meh, I forgot a lot, learned a lot, learn every day. I can't program for shyte.
[14:25] <derron> lol ya i never want to program....
[14:26] <Obsidian1723> I'm a network/os/security guy, thats my area\
[14:26] <Obsidian1723> me either.
[14:27] <Obsidian1723> I gotta jet to work. I'm always on. IM me if you want. btw, ever heard og Backtrack?
[14:27] <Obsidian1723> og/of
[14:27] <derron> ya we use backtrack
[14:27] <derron> for ethical hacking class]
[14:27] <Obsidian1723> right on. If yo ureally want to learn, install DVL (Damn Vunerable Linux) then secure it, then attack it with BackTrack, repeat until the holes are plugged.
[14:28] <Obsidian1723> CEH = Certified Ethical Hacker...from OSSEC, good cert :D
[14:28] <Obsidian1723> If you want certs, checkout GIAC and OSSEC
[14:29] <Obsidian1723> ok, gotta jet...
[14:29] <derron> thanks.. tttyl
[14:29] <Obsidian1723> anytime.
[15:09] <CQ> hello, my X is broken after a quantal upgrade... no useful info in the logs, I've tried reinstalling kubuntu-desktop and a few utperh packages, including some of the xserver-* ones ... any ideas?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> so are you in the tty , CQ or on another machine?
[15:11] <CQ> this is another machine... the tty is fine, so is lightdm
[15:11] <CQ> or kdm works as well
[15:11] <CQ> on this machine (laptop) the upgrade went fine
[15:12] <BluesKaj> cq so exactly how is X broken on the other pc ?
[15:13] <CQ> I put in username and password, the screen goes blank, then I get the lightdm screen back
[15:13] <BluesKaj> nvidia graphics ?
[15:15] <CQ> nope, plain intel onboard
[15:16] <BluesKaj> ok , go back to the lightdm greeter screen ,ctrl+alt+f1 to drop to the tty , login , then sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade , there's fix in the upgrades
[15:16] <CQ> have done that, no change up until 5 mins ago
[15:16] <BluesKaj> I had exactly the same issue
[15:17] <BluesKaj> ok did you try dist-upgrade as well?
[15:18] <CQ> yep
[15:18] <xixor> yep
[15:21]  * BluesKaj wonders if nomodeset would help
[15:23] <CQ> nomodeset?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> the thing is you're able to boot into the greeter , so nomodeset isn't really applicable
[15:24] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset
[15:26] <BluesKaj> did you any errors about X server and initramfs  ?
[15:26]  * Smurphy uses: nomodeset and removes the splash and quiete stuff ...
[15:26] <BluesKaj> CQ, or xinit ?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> yeah , was grasping for straws
[15:28] <TalonClaw> hey
[15:33] <TalonClaw> hmm i must be doing sumthin wrong this my first time on Irc
[15:34] <robtygart> TalonClaw: Hello
[15:34] <BluesKaj> TalonClaw, not so far , your client is working
[15:34] <TalonClaw> ah it is lol
[15:35] <TalonClaw> was checking that then
[15:35] <TalonClaw> converting myself from windows to linux
[15:35] <BluesKaj> CQ, you could try booting using an older kernel
[15:36] <CQ> good idea can do
[15:36] <TalonClaw> hmm iv somehow got myself banned from a channel by tryin to join it..
[15:38] <TalonClaw> register zxcvbnm
[15:38] <TalonClaw> fail lol
[15:39] <CQ> older kernel 3.2 doesn't help
[15:39] <TalonClaw> anyone care to tell an irc noobie how to register nick with nickserv?
[15:39] <TalonClaw> cnt member
[15:39] <CQ>  /msg nickserv help register ?
[15:39] <TalonClaw> wrong keyboard
[15:40] <BluesKaj> !register
[15:40] <TalonClaw> thanls
[15:40] <TalonClaw> thanks
[15:44] <CQ> weird with the old kernel the guest login works but the users don't
[15:46] <BluesKaj> yeah i forgot about the guest login option working in some cases... why that works is a mystery to me
[15:47] <TalonClaw> nope
[15:47] <TalonClaw> now this is my main issue with working on two pc's
[15:47] <TalonClaw> lol
[15:49] <Derron> yayyyy im registered
[15:49] <Derron> lol
[15:49] <TalonClaw> lol derron takes a lil to get used to dont it
[15:49] <TalonClaw> AP?
[15:49] <Derron> yea lol... i use to join  IRC chats alot a long time ago...
[15:50] <TalonClaw> lol first day ever getting in one
[15:50] <Derron> ya i use to use mIRC back like 10+ years ago
[15:50] <TalonClaw> still managed to get banned on a channel by trying to join it :/
[15:53] <BluesKaj> TalonClaw, repeatedly trying to join an invite only chat can get you banned
[15:56] <TalonClaw> i think i accidently tried to join as root which is auto ban on backtrack
[15:56] <TalonClaw> was just looking it up
[15:58] <BluesKaj> asking about backtrack in 'buntu chat's a no no
[15:59] <TheLordOfTime> indeed
[15:59] <TheLordOfTime> !backtrack
[16:00] <TalonClaw> omg i fail so badly
[16:00] <TalonClaw> but yeha thats the channel im now banned from facepalm
[16:00] <BluesKaj> well backtrack has reason to be paranoid
[16:01] <TheLordOfTime> yup.
[16:01] <TheLordOfTime> BT support maybe in ##linux though
[16:01] <TheLordOfTime> otherwise you're SOL.
[16:01] <TalonClaw> irc chat words
[16:01] <BluesKaj> I don't see any benefits in backtrack anyway
[16:02] <TalonClaw> tools are there ready to use
[16:02] <TalonClaw> i find it easier to just have a play about on before getting into anything serious
[16:02] <TalonClaw> like pacman all night last night
[16:08] <derron_> Kubuntu just froze on me 5 minutes ago.. seems to be while im browsing the internet... can anybody help?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> derron_, can you describe the freeze
[16:09] <derron_> it freezes completely...   cnat do anything have to force it to shut down
[16:09] <BluesKaj> KB and mouse or just a url
[16:09] <derron_> all
[16:09] <CQ> derron ctrl-alt-f1 works?
[16:09] <derron_> no
[16:10] <derron_> I did not upgrade the kernel yet...   but its only down  by .1
[16:12] <derron_> just started the updates ...  have alot
[16:12] <derron_> well.. not for my internet connection lol...
[16:14] <TalonClaw> shud remember me craigo lol
[16:14] <TalonClaw> wrong keyboard...
[16:17] <Derron> lol im like crossing my fingers hoping the system  doesnt freeze in the middle of the update LOL  that would really suck
[16:18] <snax> moin.
[16:19] <snax> I want to download and burn kubuntu but I don't have a dvd reader on the machine I want to install it on.
[16:19] <Derron> USB
[16:19] <snax> I want to burn kubuntu on a cd-r.
[16:19] <snax> Derron: it's too old to boot of usb.
[16:19] <Derron> o ok
[16:20] <snax> It's a dell inspiron.
[16:20] <Derron> dell inspiron too old?
[16:20] <Derron> what model
[16:20] <snax> usb is not on the boot menu.
[16:20] <TalonClaw> you can still boot from usb you just need the right software
[16:20] <Derron> sometimes its not right in the bios...  hit f12
[16:21] <TalonClaw> and that ^
[16:21] <Derron> i cant really remember but its somewhere where you wouldnt expect...
[16:21] <Derron> you have to enable a setting
[16:21] <Derron> i encountered that issue before where it wasnt in the boot menu... but i had to enable something
[16:22] <Derron> its like a setting where the HD info is...  wish i could remember more specifically.. sry :(
[16:23] <snax> I'll snoop around the bios. thanks.
[16:23] <snax> I don't see it under F12 though.
[16:24] <Derron> ok hopefully if you snoop around the bios you find it.... but what model is the inspiron btw
[16:24] <Derron> becuase i have had an inspiron
[16:24] <snax> sorry I'm at work atm, until lunch break.  Don't recall the exact model.
[16:24] <Derron> ok
[16:24] <snax> I go on lunch in 10 min though :)
[16:25] <Derron> ok hopefully you can find the setting  when u do go
[16:25] <Derron> maybe i will try to research how to do it on some inpiron models while your working
[16:27] <Derron> wow apparently on some older models they block the USB booting on purpose...
[16:27] <Derron> stupid dell
[16:27] <snax> So you just unblock it in the bios. right ?
[16:27] <Derron> lol
[16:27] <Derron> hopefully idk still looking
[16:28] <snax> probably for security purposes.  dumb dell.
[16:28] <Derron> yep
[16:28] <Derron> u could of course try pxe boot
[16:28] <Derron> if u wanna try
[16:29] <Derron> not sure how that works with linux
[16:31] <Derron> can i give web links here?>
[16:32] <genii-around> Derron: So long as it's not adverts
[16:32] <Derron> ok i found a good site on the booting issue...
[16:32] <Derron> http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-39667.html
[16:32] <Derron> if you wanna check that out, snax
[16:32] <snax> Derron: do you use unetbootn to make usb boot drives?
[16:33] <Derron> i use    pendrivelinux
[16:33] <Derron> universal usb installer
[16:48] <simplew> if i install konversation-dbg and running konversation in gdb it will say that theres no debugging symbols, so something is missing in konversation-dbg package, can anyone fix thos?
[16:49] <simplew> Riddell: i you use to package konversation :)
[16:51] <Riddell> simplew: should be in /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/konversation
[16:51] <simplew> Riddell: you could try reproduce it
[16:55] <Derron> latest kde is 4.9.3?
[16:55] <Derron> updates isnt showing 4.9.3
[16:55] <avihay> it's in the backports repository
[16:56] <Derron> i htink it id update tho..i have to restart for it to show?
[16:56] <Derron> i think it is*
[16:57] <avihay> just reload, not restart
[16:57] <avihay> (like apt-get update)
[16:57] <Derron> how do i reload??  ctrl alt backspace?
[16:57] <Derron> o
[16:57] <avihay> what package manager are ya useing?
[16:57] <avihay> using*
[16:58] <Derron> muon....
[16:58] <Derron> default
[16:59] <avihay> I don't know how to do it from Muon :-<
[16:59] <Derron> what do you use
[17:00] <avihay> synaptic
[17:00] <simplew> Riddell: Reading symbols from /usr/bin/konversation...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/konversation...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
[17:00] <Derron> on kubuntu?? i thought synaptic was just gnome
[17:01] <avihay> well, synaptic is a GTK program, you can instal it just fine if you'd like, and it happens to be the most stable, feature full package manager I know of
[17:02] <Derron> ya installing it now
[17:03] <rijack> can some one look at this
[17:03] <rijack> http://pastebin.com/ZvDDUq6Y
[17:03] <avihay> until Muon will show me the dpkg output, or show me what went wrong properly, I can't seriously consider it a replacement
[17:04] <rijack> there is no package named smbfs in my package manager so where else could i get it
[17:05]  * BluesKaj agrees with avihay on that score , synaptic can't be touched in terms of usability
[17:06] <avihay> rijack: I have smbfs in my package manager
[17:07] <avihay> BluesKaj: now if it wasn't so ugly... :->
[17:07] <rijack> you do ? whatare your source or repos or whatever
[17:08] <avihay> I marked both universe and multiverse in the package-sources thingy, don't know how they are called now
[17:08] <rijack> k ill check that
[17:08] <BluesKaj> avihay, just set it up with krunner, kdesudo systemsettings ..it can be configured to look just like any other kde app
[17:09] <simplew> avihay: theres no such package smbfs in ubuntu repos
[17:10] <avihay> BluesKaj: can you be bothered with sending me a screenshot of yours?
[17:10] <avihay> did you go to software sources and enabled everything?
[17:10] <avihay> !package smbfs
[17:10] <avihay> !find smbfs
[17:11] <avihay> humm
[17:11] <BluesKaj> avihay,ok , hang on
[17:13] <simplew> avihay: arent you looking for smbclient?
[17:13] <avihay> no, I've installed and used smbfs successfully before
[17:14] <BluesKaj> avihay, http://imagebin.org/235569
[17:14] <BluesKaj> avi you may need to do a ctrl- to bring the size down since i'm using a large monitor
[17:14] <simplew> avihay: so you need toisntall autofs
[17:14] <BluesKaj> avihay,^
[17:16] <avihay> simplew: I don't think so
[17:17] <avihay> try sudo apt-get install smbfs from your command line
[17:17] <simplew> avihay: what for? why dont you do it
[17:18] <Derron> someone told me latest kde is  9.2.3?
[17:18] <Derron> cant find it in the synaptic or muon
[17:18] <avihay> you'd want autofs to force smbfs to reconnect
[17:18] <Derron> backports included
[17:18] <arsal> hello
[17:18] <avihay> Derron:  4.9.3
[17:19] <Derron> ya thats what i meant
[17:19] <Derron> im in class so im trying to multi task
[17:20] <arsal> any body here to help me out ? :( i am window user so i have switched to kunbuntu recently
[17:21] <avihay> Derron: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
[17:21] <BluesKaj> arsal, ok just ask your question
[17:21] <simplew> Derron: you should go to kde website and see by yourself last version
[17:21] <Derron> ya synaptic keeps saying latest version : 4.9.2
[17:21] <BluesKaj> Derron, use the kubuntu-ppa
[17:21] <avihay> and after you add the ppa, hit refresh
[17:22] <simplew> Derron: that would save you time and money
[17:22] <BluesKaj> update and upgradew
[17:22] <BluesKaj> BBIAB
[17:25] <arsal_> i install antivirus ..... whenever i attempt to run it, it shows loading icon in taskbar but nothing happened d jus disappear :(
[17:26] <simplew> arsal_: i never useed an antiviruz in linux
[17:27] <rijack> antivirus? all you need for linux is a firewall
[17:27] <rijack> are you using wine
[17:27] <rijack> ?
[17:27] <Derron> still dont see it how to i find it in the package manager??     search  for  "kernel" ?
[17:28] <Derron> everyone should use anti virus for linux...
[17:28] <arsal_> i need to scan my external hard drive through linux .. i read on multi forums about it...
[17:28] <Derron> what if you give a colleague who uses windows a virus?
[17:28] <Derron> email... messenger
[17:28] <Derron> network shares
[17:29] <arsal_> for linux .. i never heard of any one who uses antivirus :p :D
[17:29] <avihay> let's start with, arsal_ , what antivirus did you install?
[17:29] <Derron> well realistically they should
[17:29] <Derron> many dont
[17:29] <arsal_> it is avast
[17:30] <avihay> Derron: I delegate the viruse checking responsibility to the windows machines
[17:31] <avihay> I warn people that my DOKs were in the school computer farm and that they should update their anti-viruse before inserting it, which is, I think, fair enough
[17:31] <arsal_> actually in a forum i read that there is only 14 viruses which effects linux.. how much is this true???
[17:33] <avihay> Wikipedia lists about 14, all of them are now irrelevant. as far as I know avast only checks for windows viruses
[17:33] <rijack> i tried autofs my smb still isnt working
[17:34] <avihay> arsal_: erm, well seems my memory was off
[17:34] <avihay> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
[17:34] <Derron> I guess you could do that...   it is the responsibility of the windows user to keep their antiviruses up to date but still... idk
[17:36] <avihay> Derron: the overhead of running an anti-virus in windows was so high that I would only install it periodically for a short while just to check I haven't been infected. usually if I was infected with anything, it was spyware that my AV didn't even handle
[17:37] <thecaptain2000> hi, has anybody any idea how to turn a linux machine in a wifi hotspot? I have two wifi cards, with one I connect to the  hotel wifi, with the other one I would like to be able to broadcast a signal that let my telephone connect to the internet in order to make skype calls with my wife (skype on linux is rubbish)
[17:38] <avihay> thecaptain2000: you can do it from the KDE network manager
[17:38] <Derron> speaking of skype... since microsoft took over skype.. i wonder if they will even bother to update linux with skype
[17:38] <thecaptain2000> I tried, I found a few huides on the network, but either my android does not detect ad hoc connection or those guides are not accurate
[17:38] <thecaptain2000> avihay: I tried, I found a few huides on the network, but either my android does not detect ad hoc connection or those guides are not accurate
[17:39] <avihay> I can guide you, assuming you are useing a recent version of Kubuntu/KDE
[17:39] <thecaptain2000> avihay: basically my android wifi manager does not find the ssid of the ad hoc connection I set in network manager, associated with the second wifi card
[17:39] <thecaptain2000> I am on 4.9
[17:40] <thecaptain2000> kubuntu 12.04
[17:40] <avihay> ok, open the network manager
[17:40] <thecaptain2000> there I am
[17:40] <avihay> in the wireless tab, click the add button, then the shared option
[17:41] <thecaptain2000> I believe you mean in the "manage connection" program
[17:41] <thecaptain2000> ok, done it
[17:41] <avihay> umm, yhe, sorry
[17:41] <avihay> pick an ssid
[17:41] <avihay> make sure that ipv4 is on basic and shared
[17:41] <thecaptain2000> ok, I picked "ohmygod"
[17:42] <Derron> lol
[17:42] <thecaptain2000> yup, basic and shared selected
[17:42] <avihay> in wireless security pick whatever you'd like
[17:42] <avihay> I suggest wpa
[17:42] <thecaptain2000> I guess I need to restrict this connection to my "other" wifi adapter -> wlan1
[17:43] <avihay> not really
[17:43] <thecaptain2000> "restrict to interface"
[17:43] <thecaptain2000> does it harm?
[17:43] <thecaptain2000> if I do not do it, when the new network appears, it re tries to connect wlan0
[17:43] <avihay> well, if you mix them up it will take you some time to figure it out
[17:43] <thecaptain2000> well, I restrict it to wolan1, it should not harm
[17:44] <avihay> hit ok
[17:44] <thecaptain2000> there I am
[17:44] <avihay> then open the network manager, pick one interface on the left
[17:45] <avihay> tell it to connect the to the hotel
[17:45] <thecaptain2000> ok
[17:45] <thecaptain2000> one is already connected (that is why I am chatting with you now)
[17:45] <avihay> go back and select the other interface, and tell it to connect to ohmygod
[17:45] <thecaptain2000> done it
[17:46] <avihay> theoretically you should now be able to see it from the android after the whole setting network address thing finishes
[17:46] <thecaptain2000> nothing is visible on Andreoid except for the same hotel wifi SSID
[17:47] <thecaptain2000> which is where I got stck
[17:47] <thecaptain2000> stuck
[17:47] <avihay> :-<
[17:47] <avihay> try to remove the restrict thingy
[17:47] <avihay> after that, try to remove the wireless security
[17:48] <avihay> I managed to make a windows laptop share my internet only when I used wep
[17:48] <avihay> and by remove I mean change, hit apply, and reconnect the interface to ohmygod
[17:48] <thecaptain2000> avihay: done and reconnected, still no joy
[17:49] <avihay> umm, try to set the channel to channel 6?
[17:50] <thecaptain2000> one thing, on the list of available connection, on the linux laptop, I see the connection I created (MyNewShared connection), it is the SSID which is ohmygod) but there is no signal associated to it, not sure if it helps
[17:50] <thecaptain2000> avihay: he channel is set to automatica and cannot changeit
[17:51] <avihay> well, I don't know then, I managed to make it work twice in a row so I know it's possible
[17:52] <thecaptain2000> freaking bastard (my pc)
[17:54] <derron> synaptic is still saying latest version of kde...  4.9.2
[17:55] <simplew> derron: synaptic lies not
[17:55] <derron> well apparently it is
[17:55] <avihay> simplew:  https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
[17:55] <derron> i did that...
[17:55] <derron> and reloades
[17:55] <derron> reload
[17:56] <simplew> derron: and you did run apt-get upgrade?
[17:56] <derron> yep
[17:57] <simplew> some you havent done properly
[17:57] <avihay> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[17:57] <avihay> derron: ^
[17:57] <BluesKaj> not the backports , just kubuntu-ppa
[17:58] <derron> derron@derron-Aspire-5750:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa
[17:58] <derron> You are about to add the following PPA to your system:
[17:58] <derron>  Updates for Kubuntu releases which are due to go to Ubuntu Updates.  Mostly KDE point releases.
[17:58] <derron>  More info: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[17:58] <derron> Press [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it
[17:58] <derron> gpg: keyring `/tmp/tmperogc2/secring.gpg' created
[17:58] <FloodBotK1> derron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <avihay> then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:59] <TheLordOfTime> !enter | derron
[17:59] <derron> i tried copy paste... had no idea it would send in multiple messages
[17:59] <derron> anyways didnt seem to work
[17:59] <TheLordOfTime> yeah, the 'linebreak' chars are interpreted as you hitting "enter"
[17:59] <thecaptain2000> avihay: do you know one thing I see strange? in my ad hoc connection setting, the channel is set to automatic and it is disabled then when I connect to that particular network, the channel results to be "-1"
[18:00] <OerHeks> avihay, getting 4.9.3 from ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports is only for 12.04, not Quantal
[18:01] <avihay> oh
[18:01] <BluesKaj> also , one should also run . dist-upgrade
[18:01] <avihay> forgot
[18:01] <derron> gpg: keyring `/tmp/tmperogc2/secring.gpg' created
[18:01] <derron> gpg: keyring `/tmp/tmperogc2/pubring.gpg' created gpg: requesting key 8AC93F7A from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com gpg: /tmp/tmperogc2/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created gpg: key 8AC93F7A: public key "Launchpad Kubuntu Updates" imported gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: imported: 1 (RSA: 1)
[18:02] <derron> there we go
[18:02] <derron> that would explain it then...    so how do i ge4.9.3 for quantal
[18:03] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=quantal
[18:04] <OerHeks> check the website first, before going to add
[18:08] <derron> ok, i got it now... thank you so much
[18:08] <dougl> I backed up/renamed my .kde folder to .kde and now my kmail is gone and xchat is using some fontzilla that makes the nicks and chatter huge in the middle window of xchat = any suggestions for making my kubuntu 12.10 into a normal looking computer?
[18:09] <dougl> to .kde.bak
[18:09] <avihay> gtg
[18:10] <BluesKaj> dougl, yeah use konverstion instead
[18:10] <BluesKaj> :)
[18:12] <dougl> BluesKaj, always good to hear from you... all my logs and everything are in xchat = been using the same .xchat dir for years - thats all you got ? :)
[18:14] <BluesKaj> dougl, well it was a joke , but renaming .kde isn't always wise , I know it's a common fix for a lot of kde issues , but it's also a pita when it doesn't apply the fix one expects
[18:15] <chuckbry> Hi there! I've installed the full kde desktop on top of ubuntu 12.04. 1) Firefox and some other apps in unity have taken on a kde/qt theme. Any way to fix that? 2) In order for me to switch to KDE i'll need to find a way to get nautilus file manager & other gtk apps to look like the rest of the KDE apps. Nautilus looks & fonts are terrible and no fix i've tried so far has worked. I'd appreciate any help, thanks.
[18:16] <BluesKaj> chuckbry, install kubuntu-desktop , then setup your gtk looks in system settings>application appearance
[18:17] <dougl> BluesKaj, ok - you made me laugh... is xchat a gtk app or something - where do you config the font on those apps
[18:17] <chuckbry> have already done that.. nautilus won't use the ubuntu font and the oxygen-gtk theme.
[18:17] <OerHeks> xchat has its own preferences with fonts and stuff.
[18:18] <chuckbry> or any other theme like qtcurve
[18:18] <BluesKaj> in xchat itself I think
[18:18] <dougl> looking
[18:19] <BluesKaj> chuckbry, do you want gnome/unity as an option when you login ?
[18:19] <dougl> say no
[18:19] <chuckbry> yes, for the time being
[18:22] <BluesKaj> chuckbry, try the krunner (alt+F2) , kdesudo systemsettings , that gives root permissions and then try the changes for gtk using that method
[18:24] <dougl> OerHeks, BluesKaj got it readable = thanks guys :)
[18:24] <OerHeks> have fun dougl
[18:27] <chuckbry> did what you suggested but didn't work..maybe I have to log in again?
[18:29] <yofel> uh kdesudo systemsettings will set appearance for root, not your user
[18:31] <chuckbry> right...I remember a few years back that fiddling with settings as root fixed some problems system-wide but..that was several versions ago and I hadn't used kde since...
[18:31] <yofel> chuckbry: is xsettings-kde installed and running?
[18:31] <chuckbry> nobody uses nautilus in kde?
[18:31] <yofel> most people don't but it should use oxygen since 12.04 if you use it
[18:33] <mime_1111> hey ppl
[18:33] <yofel> chuckbry: and so you have this in your ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4? gtk-theme-name="oxygen-gtk"
[18:33] <yofel> *and do you
[18:34] <chuckbry> let me see
[18:34] <mime_1111> after having flash problems, i just start the browser as admin, and the problem has dissapeared, but only works correctly with sudo, any help? thnx
[18:42] <chuckbry> are there keyboard shortcuts for showing all desktops & moving an application to one like shift+ctrl_alt+-> in compiz?
[18:45] <yofel> chuckbry: the settings are there, but empty by default
[18:45] <chuckbry> didn't find one for moving apps
[18:45] <chuckbry> one that can be set, i mean
[18:46] <chuckbry> maybe missed it
[18:46] <yofel> chuckbry: systemsettings->shortcuts->global->kwin->Move Window ...
[18:47] <yofel> Window One Desktop ... rather
[18:48] <chuckbry> found it, thanks alot!
[18:49] <chuckbry> expose of all destops like in unity? I got the cube working but that's not what i'm looking for
[18:50] <imgx64> Hi, I'm trying Kubuntu 12.10 LiveCD in a virtual machine.. Why aren't Web Shortcuts working in the Alt-F2 menu? I typed "gg:test" then pressed Enter, but nothing happened.
[18:51] <chuckbry> That "window One desktop.." would have been a very hard find..could be made easier to find
[19:04] <chuckbry> found all the rest, thanks yofel..If only we could fix nautilus fonts & themes I'd be a happy camper
[19:08] <simplew> yofel: poing
[19:23] <yofel> simplew: piong
[19:24] <yofel> chuckbry: you are on 12.04 right? There the gtk theme is set by setting it for gtk2, and using xsettings-kde to also apply it for gtk3
[19:24] <yofel> so if things work right, everything should be using oxygen-gtk
[19:28] <chuckbry> didn't quite catch the steps there..can't seem to start xsettings-kde. It come up but nothing starts..can you list the steps of what I have to do?
[19:29] <yofel> chuckbry: ah, I was just asking if it's running, it's a daemon without UI
[19:29] <chuckbry> ok
[19:29] <yofel> chuckbry: to set it go to systemsettings->applicationa appearance->gtk
[19:29] <m477> how can I add apps to tray?
[19:29] <yofel> that should usually work then
[19:30] <yofel> chuckbry: here's my ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 http://paste.kde.org/605006
[19:31] <yofel> chuckbry: for gtk3 you could put this in your ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini http://paste.kde.org/605012/ but that will probably mess with unity
[19:38] <chuckbry> the 1st file is identical to mine. There's no gtk3 file in home
[19:39] <rijack> What does this mean in Konsole
[19:39] <rijack> ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: No route to host
[19:40] <TheLordOfTime> rijack, means it can't connect to that system via SSH on port 22
[19:40] <TheLordOfTime> "No Route to Host" means there's no connection path to there betweenyou and it
[19:40] <TheLordOfTime> (also means no connections allowed there)
[19:42] <rijack> i dont know what could cause that
[19:43] <rijack> i can connect in Chromium
[19:43] <TheLordOfTime> Chromium connects via SSH?
[19:43] <TheLordOfTime> you likely are connecting to port 80 on that system via chromium, not port 22 / SSH
[19:43] <TheLordOfTime> (80 is HTTP, 22 is SSH.  they're separate servicse)
[19:44] <rijack> ok ill try that then
[19:44] <chuckbry> another unrelated quirk...using firefox as main browser..I can only move the window when point exactlty on the topmost part--the empty space beneath doesn't produce the cross mark and I end up trying sever times to point to the right place..quite nerving
[19:44] <TheLordOfTime> that wasnt a solution rijack
[19:45] <TheLordOfTime> that was me saying that you're probably mistaking having a site for having SSH
[19:46] <rijack> there are other unix commands then ssh to connect though arent there?
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> you assume SSH is running on <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> its likely given the error message that that IP/machine is not running SSH
[19:48] <rijack> im trying to send command to my router's shell which it "should" support
[20:02] <phiscribe> most routers that have a way in use telnet.  some need a "special" ip packet and or logon to get in
[20:04]  * dougl is googling nepomuk
[20:05] <dougl> !nepomuk
[20:05] <Tygart> What chat do I use for Kubuntu 13.04?
[20:09] <Captain_Proton> I just install kde and remove unity on 12.10 box now lightdm will not start anyne know what the lightdm.conf should be?
[20:09] <Captain_Proton> settings*
[20:11] <dougl> anyone want to chat about nepomuk - reading is not cutting it... what does it do and who said I wanted it?
[20:13] <OerHeks> nepomuk-akonadi is a desktop search/indexing service. nice, to find anything quickly.
[20:14] <Captain_Proton> guess I will have to go back to unity then
[20:14] <OerHeks> unity runs on lightDM, so if you removed it, sure it won't start.
[20:15] <Captain_Proton> I have lightdm install I do not know what kubuntu uses for the session setting or greeter they will be listed under /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[20:16] <BluesKaj> Captain_Proton, just install lightdm , kubuntu uses it as well
[20:16] <BluesKaj> since 12.04
[20:16]  * OerHeks oops
[20:17] <dougl> are the fonts here http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Development/Tutorials/Metadata/Nepomuk/Quickstart messed up and ugly on other firefox browsers?
[20:17] <Captain_Proton> i know i can not find the light.conf setting for KDE
[20:18] <Captain_Proton> can someone do a cat on /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and let me know what they ARE
[20:18] <dougl> OerHeks, thanks :)
[20:20] <Tygart> Were is the support channel for Kubuntu 13.04
[20:20] <Tygart> Where*
[20:20] <dougl> Captain_Proton, what did you need to know?
[20:22] <OerHeks> Tygart, join #ubuntu+1 for raring
[20:22] <Captain_Proton> what the user-setting is and greeter-session i think is lightdm-kde-greeter but I am not sure
[20:22] <Tygart> OerHeks: Thanks
[20:22] <pablo_> hello everybody, I have a question about rekonq, beacuse i can't see any video on youtube. The problem exists only in rekonq, because firefox and chrome works fine with youtube. Anyone knows how i can fix it?
[20:23] <dougl> greeter-session=lightdm-kde-greeter
[20:23] <Captain_Proton> google rekonq and flash you need to move a file bu I can not remember where
[20:24] <Captain_Proton> dougl, is there a user-setting
[20:24] <dougl> Captain_Proton, no
[20:25] <dougl> autologin user you mean?
[20:25] <dougl> autologin-user=doug
[20:27] <Captain_Proton> I will just reinstall :( no biggie
[20:35] <BluesKaj> pablo_, rekonq is hopeless , forget it ..it's much too buggt to be reliable
[20:35] <BluesKaj> er buggy
[20:36] <pablo_> ok, i understand
[20:36] <pablo_> maybe konqueror without webkit is better?
[20:36] <dougl> buggery... I thot this was  a family channel
[20:37] <pablo_> i don't know too much about kde applications, is the first time that i used
[20:38] <pablo_> because, i don't like the look of gnome 3 and unity
[20:38] <dougl> pablo_, you are not alone
[20:39] <BluesKaj> pablo , stick to known browsers that work, FF, chrome/chromium , even opera
[20:39] <dougl> I hear good things about chrome but firefox is tried and true for me... and youtubes great
[20:40] <pablo_> ok, thanks to all
[20:44] <pablo_>  by the way anyone know if there is a channel in any server to talk about programming languages?
[20:47] <calcmandan> do you know how to list channels?
[20:53] <yankele> hello
[20:53] <jedihawk> calcmandan: /list
[20:53] <yankele> !list
[20:53] <pablo_> yeah, i know how to list
[20:53] <calcmandan> jedihawk: thanks, i was answering someone else's question.
[20:57] <jedihawk> oh
[21:08] <abcdeath> hi
[21:45] <us0r> hello, i'm trying to install winPcap and i cant seem to find the right application to use to open the .exe file. does anyone here know?
[21:46] <genii-around> I'd guess the "win" part of winpcap might be your problem there.
[21:46] <BluesKaj> us0r, you need wine to run windows exe file in linux
[21:47] <us0r> ah, i see. can i apt-get wine?
[21:48] <BluesKaj> !wine
[21:49] <us0r> got it. thanks
[21:58] <us0r> damn, my terminal has been stopped up with a end user license agreement that wont let me agree to it or download wine
[21:59] <OerHeks> us0r, you cannot click it with your mouse ? try [tab] and hit [space]
[22:00] <us0r> not with mouse. [tab] and [space] worked. thanks
[23:20] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[23:27] <noaXess> hey
[23:28] <noaXess> configuring sshd for chroot sftp users.. with the match directive... works fine.. but if i connect to that sftp server and create a file or directory it uses wrong group for creating..
[23:28] <noaXess> any hint?