[02:25] <asac> night
[09:25] <AlexLatchford> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/82805
[09:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82805 in mozilla-thunderbird "During install mozilla-thunderbird recommends mozilla-firefox, but the package is called firefox in Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[09:26] <AlexLatchford> Can someone confirm this bug? Its only on Feisty I believe
[10:57] <asac> AlexLatchford: you already confirmed it ... should be a safe bet. Took it to my TODO list.
[10:58] <AlexLatchford> yeah I went and looked through synaptic and asumed it wouldn't have changed
[11:01] <Admiral_Chicago> comap is hard.
[11:03] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: hiho
[11:08] <Admiral_Chicago> hey there asac
[11:08] <Admiral_Chicago> i just realized I have to be up at 6 am tomorrow as well
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> ...fun
[11:10] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: then you will nearly get up when i am
[11:10] <asac> though its 1100 here :-P
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> :(
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> it's a healthf 4.15 am
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> i have to shower, clear my head, leave this problem for nom
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> now*. see ya
[11:20] <asac> cya
[12:15] <gnomefreak> ok maybe that will help :(
[12:41] <asac> hello :)
[12:42] <gnomefreak> hello :)
[12:43] <asac> can i help?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> nope i got everything under control so far.
[12:45] <asac> ok great ;)
[12:49] <gnomefreak> is there a Roel on our team?
[12:58] <hjmf> hi
[12:59] <gnomefreak> hi
[12:59] <hjmf> can you take a look to the Stacktrace on bug 82440 , to me looks very close to bug 82601
[12:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82440 in firefox "firefox crashed while downloading/opening pdf file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82440
[12:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82601 in firefox "Firfox shuts down occassionally when switching tabs or to open an URL in a new tab. (dup-of: 74576)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82601
[12:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74576 in firefox "crash [@nsWindowWatcher::OpenWindowJSInternal]  [@nsContentTreeOwner::ShowAsModal] [@nsXULWindow::ShowModal] " [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74576
[01:01] <hjmf> could it be the same issue? maybe mark as dup
[01:15] <gnomefreak> asac: you still here?
[01:21] <gnomefreak> asac: can you look at bug 48617 i was being pinged about it.
[01:21] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 48617 in firefox "galeon says it is Firefox via ssh URI" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/48617
[01:31] <gnomefreak> seeing as it seems more stable than edgys
[01:35] <gnomefreak> hjmf: what version of apport are you using and are you in an edgy chroot?
[01:36] <hjmf> apport 0.5 from feisty in edgy chroot
[01:37] <gnomefreak> hjmf: how are you running the retraces?
[01:38] <hjmf> ie: apport-retrace -o retraced.crash -v -d -C /tmp/foo _usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash 2>&1 | tee retrace.log
[01:38] <hjmf> I'm trying to fit all dep issues form the apport's ouput
[01:41] <gnomefreak> the problem ther eis -dbgsym are not updated so you would have to use -dbg but they are not all there
[01:41] <gnomefreak> but your getting more output than me on retraces
[01:42] <hjmf> I'm using the -dbg I find based on the package versions I'm using
[01:43] <hjmf> from   http://mirror.linux.org.mt/mirror/ubuntu/pool/
[01:43] <gnomefreak> are you using that as a repo or just grabbing the debs?
[01:44] <hjmf> just grabbing using dpkg -i
[01:44] <hjmf> it's faster
[01:44] <gnomefreak> k
[01:45] <hjmf> then when finished, I leave the chroot updated with apt-get
[01:45] <hjmf> ready for next retrace
[01:46] <gnomefreak> where are the -dbg packages? i dont see them in main
[01:47] <hjmf> on each package directory (if there is one -dbg, not always)
[01:48] <hjmf> ie: http://mirror.linux.org.mt/mirror/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gtk+2.0/libgtk2.0-0-dbg_2.10.6-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[01:48] <hjmf> just google as "libgtk2.0-0-dbg_2.10.6-0ubuntu3 site:mirror.linux.org.mt"
[01:51] <gnomefreak> oh ok i didnt thin google could use site:bleh
[01:52] <gnomefreak> ty will try it out. are you not getting errors when running apport-retrace. like asserstionerror?
[01:54] <hjmf> not at all, only dep issues that can be solved most of them
[01:55] <gnomefreak> hopfully ill find the ones i need
[01:57] <gnomefreak> what does the retrace.crash do?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> im getting errors trying to run that command
[01:58] <hjmf> the retrace.crash is just the retraced crash report, just to not mess up the original
[01:59] <hjmf> In case that helps you, these are the only feisty packages I'm using:
[01:59] <gnomefreak> i was just looking at that. heres the error i get (kind of weird)
[01:59] <hjmf> python-launchpad-bugs_0.1~r75_all.deb python-apt_0.6.20ubuntu4_i386.deb apport_0.50_all.deb
[02:00] <gnomefreak> (mychroot)gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/bug84702$ apport-retrace  -o retrace.crash -v -d -C _usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash 2>&1 | tee retrace.log
[02:00] <gnomefreak> usage: apport-retrace [options]  <apport problem report | Launchpad bug number>
[02:00] <gnomefreak> apport-retrace: error: incorrect number of arguments; use --help for a short online help
[02:00] <hjmf> chech if you have installed those packages
[02:01] <gnomefreak> i am
[02:01] <gnomefreak> i dont
[02:01] <gnomefreak> i am installing them now
[02:01] <hjmf> k
[02:01] <gnomefreak> if ff stops crashing
[02:01] <hjmf> ?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> when i go to download froma  mirror ff crashes
[02:02] <gnomefreak> 3.0
[02:02] <hjmf> I see
[02:04] <gnomefreak> what version of libc6 do you have in your chroot?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> python-apt depends on feistys version
[02:04] <gnomefreak> >2.5
[02:06] <gnomefreak> lots of depends on feisty
[02:06] <asac> ok ... avail again to serve you :)
[02:07] <gnomefreak> asac: i just need you to look at the above bug about ssh :(
[02:07] <asac> give me numbers :)
[02:08] <asac> found it :) 48617
[02:08] <asac> ?
[02:08] <asac> gnomefreak: what happens if you click an ssh:// url from within firefox?
[02:10] <gnomefreak> never tried
[02:11] <asac> same dialog
[02:11] <asac> hmm
[02:12] <gnomefreak> hjmf: they are both installed it seems i must have had wrong names :(
[02:12] <hjmf> gnomefreak, libc6 2.4-1ubuntu12.3
[02:12] <hjmf> right now
[02:12] <gnomefreak> yeah edgys version is installed
[02:13] <gnomefreak> asac: if you have a link for me to try ill try it on 3.0
[02:14] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/test.html
[02:14] <gnomefreak> hjmf: your not using apport 0.52?
[02:14] <gnomefreak> i get it here too
[02:14] <hjmf> gnomefreak, no, 0.50
[02:15] <hjmf> I'm using that always since it was the one available when started
[02:15] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[02:15] <hjmf> and I'm installing / removing it when using apt-get
[02:15] <gnomefreak> ill try it with that version
[02:15] <hjmf> k
[02:16] <hjmf> I have to go
[02:16] <asac> hjmf: cu
[02:17] <hjmf> asac: take a look to bug 82440 | I'll review the logs later
[02:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82440 in firefox "firefox crashed while downloading/opening pdf file (dup-of: 74576)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82440
[02:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74576 in firefox "crash [@nsWindowWatcher::OpenWindowJSInternal]  [@nsContentTreeOwner::ShowAsModal] [@nsXULWindow::ShowModal] " [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74576
[02:17] <hjmf> cu
[02:17] <asac> do we have public logs of this channel?
[02:18] <gnomefreak> yes hold on ill get the link
[02:18] <asac> maybe we can put it in wiki?
[02:18] <gnomefreak> http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[02:18] <asac> ok ... I am usually online too ... was just curious
[02:19] <asac> hjmf: yeah ... you are right ... its a dupe.
[02:19] <asac> can we try to get someone who can reproduce these crash on open (some) dialog into this channel?
[02:20] <asac> I would like to upload a preview version with the upstream fix for the theme change crashes and see if those go away too
[02:22] <gnomefreak> i can see if i can find one but i dont know if they are even on irc
[02:23] <asac> have you seen any of those crashes?
[02:23] <asac> I can reproduce the bug on theme switch (at least it hangs for some time here) ... but haven't seen a crash on file download et al
[02:24] <asac> maybe it happens more often on i386  than on x86_64
[02:24] <gnomefreak> not here im just getting crashes when clicking on some download link
[02:25] <gnomefreak> and its starting to piss me off bad
[02:26] <asac> hey
[02:26] <asac> that might be it
[02:26] <asac> you have a trace?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> next time it does it ill will see if i can grab it. it wants to send it to mozilla since its ff 3.0
[02:44] <asac> hmmm then this is probably not fixed by the theme change patch
[02:44] <asac> as this already landed on trunk
[02:44] <asac> ... which makes the trace even more interesting
[02:45] <asac> ok ... maybe I shold tell you if you have unconfirmed bugs in bugzilla I can confirm them ... if you have patches that should land of branches, I can nominate them :)
[02:48] <asac> however thats almost the end of my upstream powers :)
[02:49] <gnomefreak> can you translate the following error in english?
[02:49] <gnomefreak> Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:49] <gnomefreak>   File "/usr/bin/apport-retrace", line 19, in ?
[02:49] <gnomefreak>     import apt, apt_inst
[02:49] <gnomefreak> ImportError: No module named apt
[02:49] <asac> yeah
[02:49] <asac> you miss the apt python module :)
[02:49] <gnomefreak> python-apt?
[02:49] <asac> probably
[02:49] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[02:50] <gnomefreak> its kind of installed
[02:50] <asac> dunno how its called ... its not in edgy i guess
[02:50] <gnomefreak> its not
[02:51] <asac> not installed or not in edgy?
[02:51] <gnomefreak> the version is not in edgy
[02:51] <gnomefreak> it says installed but all kinds of depends that havent been
[02:52] <gnomefreak> and i cant install the depends due to libc6
[02:52] <asac> what?
[02:52] <asac> what did you mess up?
[02:52] <asac> whats your libc6 issue?
[02:53] <gnomefreak> i downgraded apport to 0.50 along with all the other packages. and i need python-apt 0.6.20ubuntu4 but trying to install all hell breaks loose
[02:54] <asac> ah k
[02:54] <asac> try to respin python-apt?
[02:55] <gnomefreak> no but i have a few ideas i can try
[02:55] <asac> i think python-apt is build against newer libs
[02:55] <asac> if you do apt-get source python-apt
[02:55] <asac> from feisty
[02:55] <asac> and build that on edgy everything should be fine
[02:56] <gnomefreak> might have jsut fixed everything :)
[02:58] <asac> major wizardry :)
[02:58] <gnomefreak> yep :)
[03:04] <asac> who was interested in getting his feed wet on packaging?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> me
[03:05] <asac> :) ... but do you still have time left?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> yeah i can take break from retraces for a day
[03:05] <asac> hehe
[03:05] <asac> fine
[03:05] <gnomefreak> i think i ony have 1 left if that
[03:05] <asac> you remember the locale bug ?
[03:06] <asac> by rimas?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> no unless your talking about the one where the feeds are only on en?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> s/on/in
[03:06] <asac> no ... its a wishlist bug
[03:07] <asac> for adding -lt locale to our firefox-locales package
[03:07] <asac> or was it thunderbird?
[03:07] <asac> hmmm
[03:07] <gnomefreak> ah no i didnt see that
[03:07] <asac> i thzink the latter
[03:07] <asac> wait a sec
[03:07] <asac> not subscribed to thunderbird package?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> i am i just dont rremember that one
[03:07] <gnomefreak> checking email now
[03:07] <asac> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird-locales/+bug/61229
[03:07] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 61229 in thunderbird-locales "Please provide missing locale (lt) for Thunderbird" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[03:08] <asac> i have to ask pitti if mozillateam we are responsible at all ... if we are this is a good thing to learn about packaging I guess
[03:08] <asac> its quite straight forward
[03:08] <asac> by you will have to touch a good bunch of debian/ files in order to properly update
[03:09] <asac> /^by/but/
[03:09] <asac> s/^by/but/
[03:09] <gnomefreak> thats fine im not afraid of debian files i think i can figure it out (i hope)
[03:09] <asac> yeah ... i ment its good to edit debian files because in that way you will get more used to general packaging things
[03:10] <gnomefreak> is this edgy build?
[03:10] <asac> no we will add locales for feisty I guess, but I first have to clarifiy before being sure about ubuntus locale procedures
[03:11] <gnomefreak> k
[03:14] <gnomefreak> i want it from debian unstable right?
[03:15] <asac> gnomefreak: unfortunately debian has no thunderbird-locales package anymore
[03:15] <asac> we have to maintain our own
[03:15] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[03:15] <asac> or maintain a conversion script so we can use debians as blueprint
[03:15] <asac> but i doubt that makes sense
[03:15] <asac> you would need to patch the package name
[03:16] <asac> and have to replace all .xpi in source tarball as we want the original upstream ones
[03:16] <asac> with the official branding
[03:16] <asac> anyway, maybe it makes sense to do the conversion once
[03:16] <asac> to begin
[03:16] <asac> because I know the guy who maintains the icedove locales pretty well
[03:17] <asac> and he did a good job recently to add tools in order to maintain the tarball recently
[03:17] <asac> however maybe grabbing the last avail thunderbird-locales from archives.debian.net would be fine too
[03:18] <asac>  .... to get things started ... then we are all alone ;)
[03:19] <gnomefreak> if we dont need debians packages at all to add a patch than why use thier locales are they that much different than ours?
[03:23] <asac> what?
[03:23] <asac> sorry ;)
[03:23] <asac> ah
[03:23] <asac> no i don't want to use their locales
[03:23] <asac> I just would start from it, because the package is well build
[03:23] <asac> and it would duplicate work
[03:24] <asac> is that what you asked?
[03:24] <asac> patching is not difficult ... learning by doing works pretty well.
[03:25] <asac> however ... merging might be difficult, because you have to understand what was done ... or at least have to recognize code patterns
[03:25] <asac> but its all a matter of excercise
[03:26] <gnomefreak> so i still need to grab debians source package?
[03:27] <gnomefreak> i was thinking apt-get source m-tb and just work in those files
[03:32] <gnomefreak> atleast that is what i am assuming from what it says at: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/updating-chap.html
[03:46] <asac> actually its not that bad ... what in particular do you want to know?
[03:46] <asac> gnomefreak: apt-get source mozilla-thunderbird will downoad source and extract it
[03:47] <asac> as it uses a broken dpatch mechanism
[03:47] <asac> the patches are not yet applied
[03:47] <asac> they lie around in debian/patches
[03:47] <asac> and will be applied at the beginning of the build
[03:50] <gnomefreak> after apt-get source mozilla-thunderbird i cd mozilla-thunderbird-<IP_ADDRESS>/debian/patches and i see a list of patches.
[03:51] <gnomefreak> isnt it enough to add the patch there change a few files in mozilla-thunderbird-<IP_ADDRESS>/debian and rebuild it? this is all in ubuntus version that i apt-get source package
[03:57] <asac> 00list
[03:58] <gnomefreak> i see that one
[03:58] <asac> thats what actually get applied
[03:58] <gnomefreak> k
[04:03] <asac> i think you can use fakeroot ./debian/rules patch
[04:03] <asac> do extract source to build-dir/mozilla and apply current patches
[04:03] <asac> however things like dpatch-edit don't work as thunderbird dpatch is broken
[04:03] <gnomefreak> ah
[04:34] <asac> I want to create a more detailed wiki page on how to submit crash reports ... how should it be named?
[04:36] <dfarning> Alex is the expert but I think he would use Mozillateam/Bugs/CrashReports
[04:37] <asac> MozillaTeam/Bugs/CrashReports ?
[04:37] <asac> or even one more hierachy :)
[04:37] <asac> MozillaTeam/Bugs/Crash/Reporting
[04:38] <asac> AlexLatchford: ping ^^^
[04:38] <gnomefreak> have we heard anything on pitti's repo being updated?
[04:38] <asac> for edgy? we can use -dbg package don't wee?
[04:39] <gnomefreak> yes and no
[04:39] <gnomefreak> it seems the dbg packages arent all there (example: thunderbird)
[04:40] <asac> hmm ... okay but for firefox we have no issues with his repo anymore, do we?
[04:41] <gnomefreak> yes still not updated. it only have 2.0+0 in it and causes others to fail because of clash in versions
[04:43] <asac> so where is his repository at all :)
[04:44] <gnomefreak> where?
[04:49] <asac> what url
[04:50] <gnomefreak> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs edgy main universe multiverse restricted
[04:52] <asac> ah sure. .. should have known
[04:52] <asac> thx
[04:52] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:54] <gnomefreak> bbl gonna start lunch
[04:55] <dfarning> gnomefreak, I should have been more clear.  I just changed your admin email on the lists.
[04:55] <dfarning> asac, what is special about pitti's repo?
[04:58] <asac> dfarning: nothing :) just wanted to take a look what packages are there and how outdated they are.
[04:58] <dfarning> ty,  I started working on clue files last night
[04:59] <dfarning> any strings you would like me to search for?
[04:59] <asac> what doe clue files do?
[04:59] <asac> can you filter for tags et al?
[04:59] <asac> actually I would like to have something to find bugs that have an illegal state, like State "Needs Info", but no tag set
[05:00] <asac> and other consistency checks
[05:00] <asac> you think something like that is possible?
[05:01] <dfarning> I'll try, I don't believe to we can specificall request within tag though
[05:02] <dfarning> got pick my nephew up from pre school be back in a few hours
[05:02] <asac> dfarning: ok ... cu
[06:10] <asac> me is away now
[06:25] <AlexLatchford> asac: you pinged?
[06:25] <AlexLatchford> MozillaTeam/Bugs/Crash/Reporting would be the most appropriate
[06:26] <AlexLatchford> this way if there is more items about Crashes it will have the same header
[06:26] <AlexLatchford> I can also use a wildcard search to match all pages easily within the subfolder
[07:54] <asac> AlexLatchford: ok. makes sense
[07:55] <asac> AlexLatchford: you moved the Tags and States pages too? Can we remove or disable the old ones somehow?
[07:55] <asac> so they don't show up when searching?
[07:55] <AlexLatchford> yeah sure
[07:55] <AlexLatchford> I redirected the old pages to the new ones
[07:56] <AlexLatchford> but if you want to delete the pages then ill do that
[07:56] <asac> yeah .. if the links to them have been properly moved too, i think its safe to remove them?
[07:56] <AlexLatchford> Erm yeah sure
[07:56] <AlexLatchford> ill do it later on
[07:56] <AlexLatchford> I didn;t think there were any links
[07:56] <asac> sure ... nothing to hurry :)
[07:56] <asac> from the main bugs page
[07:57] <asac> the is a link to BugsProcedures
[07:57] <AlexLatchford> aha ok
[07:57] <asac> and from that page there are links to BugStates as well as BugTags
[07:57] <AlexLatchford> well ill go over them in a bit
[07:57] <asac> thx a lot
[08:03] <AlexLatchford> Pages are gone :)
[08:04] <AlexLatchford> going to work on a small document for the wiki now
[08:04] <asac> good so now I can add new content :)
[08:04] <AlexLatchford> so other people can contribute in a similar style
[08:04] <AlexLatchford> yeah sure
[08:04] <asac> yep ... a short introduction on how to organize hierachy would be nice .. if one can actually word this comprehensible :)
[08:05] <AlexLatchford> yeah ill try my best
[08:06] <asac> thats most likely good enough ;)
[08:35] <hjmf> gnomefreak: I've taken bug 84545 just to play and I've gotten a Stacktrace that shows more info, I'm uploading it right now, hope you dont mind
[08:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 84545 in firefox "firefox crash on youtube" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84545
[08:37] <hjmf> looks like a flashplugin-nonfree issue
[08:48] <crimsun> I can't find the actual youtube url in that bug.
[08:52] <gnomefreak> hjmf: thats fine im gonna play with this bug to find out why im not getting everything sinc ei seem to have almost all ff related dbg packages plus some
[08:52] <hjmf> actually there is no youtube link in the source package of the link in the chrashreport
[08:53] <hjmf> gnomefreak: k
[08:53] <asac> anyone can interpret what reporter of Bug 84716 means?
[08:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 84716 in firefox "firefox crashes, screen divides after applying orca screen reader" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84716
[08:54] <asac> "normal page splits to left and jumbled version of magnifier goes to lower right and doesn't track..."
[08:55] <asac> what does that mean?
[08:56] <crimsun> I think the reporter means that the magnifier in the trailing (right) side of the vertical division seems "frozen"
[08:57] <crimsun> a digital photo would do wonders
[08:57] <asac> yeah ... now i get it ... somehow
[08:57] <asac> is it installed by default?
[08:57] <asac> magnifier?
[08:57] <asac> not in the menu
[08:58] <asac> hmm buts installe
[08:58] <asac> d
[08:58] <crimsun> gnome-mag is the package iirc
[08:58] <asac> i see i have orca installed
[08:58] <asac> isn't it that?
[08:59] <crimsun> according to the description, -orca is just the keybindings and their responses
[08:59] <asac> aha
[08:59] <asac> found in preferences
[09:14] <gnomefreak> what the hell am i missing? http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/352401
[09:19] <gnomefreak> hjmf: are you using firefox <IP_ADDRESS> or 2.0+0*
[09:24] <hjmf> sorry I was away
[09:24] <hjmf> gnomefreak: I'm using the one reported on each crash report
[09:26] <hjmf> ... and I have to go now, see you
[09:36] <dfarning> hey asac can you give me a few more hints about the states you would like to know about
[09:39] <asac> dfarning: yeah wait a sec
[09:39] <asac> can you search for tags?
[09:40] <dfarning> can't search for tags specifically but can search for strings with in the tag
[09:40] <asac> good ... so if you search only the description and title you should get them, right?
[09:41] <asac> can you do something like ... all bugs that are "Needs Info" State, but have no tag or the wrong tags attached?
[09:42] <dfarning> current one can search the entire report which includes title, body, tags
[09:42] <dfarning> I can if the boolean dosen't get too hairy
[09:42] <asac> for now we could say ... all bugs that are "needs info", but that have either "needreport" "retrace" "traced" "needtestcase" "needtester"
[09:43] <asac> though the last ones are not yet official :)
[09:43] <dfarning> i'll start coding that one and get back to you;)
[09:43] <asac> s/but have either/but have neither/"
[09:43] <dfarning> ok
[09:43] <asac> see important to negation :)
[09:44] <asac> i want to find need info bugs that are not properly documented
[09:44] <asac> dfarning: thanks
[09:45] <dfarning> It is going to be a while because bughelper caches all of the attachements locallu the first thime you run it with the -A option
[09:47] <asac> oh ... i think its important not to search any comments for the tags because the will not go away from there. .. just from the description.
[09:48] <dfarning> ok i'll try....and file feature requests as needed with daniel
[09:48] <asac> great
[09:54] <asac> interesting ... my feisty chroot is now broken
[09:54] <asac> apt-get, aptitude say they cannot resolve archive.ubuntu.com
[09:54] <asac> but ping archive.ubuntu.com works
[09:54] <asac> wierd
[09:55] <asac> :(
[11:32] <dfarning> AlexLatchford, Are you about?
[11:32] <AlexLatchford> just about
[11:33] <dfarning> did you just squish the tags page
[11:34] <AlexLatchford> I moved it to /Bugs/Tags
[11:34] <dfarning> ok, thanks
[11:35] <AlexLatchford> dfarning: is the Mozilla Council in place now?
[11:35] <AlexLatchford> or is that on the agenda for the next meeting?
[11:36] <dfarning> not yet;( lets wait until the next meeting we don't want to over step or bounds
[11:36] <dfarning> I will set up the infrastructure today
[11:36] <AlexLatchford> okay
[11:37] <AlexLatchford> ill add it to the agenda quickly now then
[11:37] <dfarning> AlexLatchford, Im going to put up the results of the last run bughelper on the wiki where would you like it ?
[11:38] <AlexLatchford> erm.. /bugs/bughelper/test-date
[11:38] <AlexLatchford> would that be okay?
[11:38] <dfarning> sounds good to me
[11:38] <asac> dfarning: we already have results?
[11:39] <dfarning> some really simple ones that I would like the rest of you to look at before i continue
[11:40] <asac> can you pastebin ?
[11:40] <dfarning> pastebin?
[11:41] <asac> http://pastebin.ca/
[11:41] <asac> ?
[11:41] <AlexLatchford> www.pastebin.com
[11:42] <dfarning> sure, I'll paste to www.pastbin.com in a few minutes
[12:00] <dfarning> I have listed four new needinfo tags at /tags
[12:01] <dfarning> asac, AlexLatchford  I have post the first set of results at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Bughelper/Results
[12:02] <AlexLatchford> nice
[12:09] <AlexLatchford> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Wiki
[12:09] <AlexLatchford> just added this page a minute ago
[12:11] <dfarning> cool we should post something on the docteam list begging for a wike person to help us;)
[12:11] <dfarning> wiki
[12:14] <AlexLatchford> yeah probably
[12:16] <AlexLatchford> working on the Trademarks page now
[12:16] <asac> dfarning: yeah ... quite some work :)
[12:17] <dfarning> Once you get the syntax it is pretty straight forward
[12:17] <dfarning> what would you like next;)
[12:21] <dfarning> AlexLatchford, is it possiable to link to a section of a wiki page
[12:21] <AlexLatchford> yes, but the page in question needs a Table of Contents
[12:21] <AlexLatchford> wait.
[12:21] <AlexLatchford> gimme 2 secs
[12:21] <dfarning> I would like NeedTag to point to the Needs Info Block of /tags
[12:22] <AlexLatchford> To insert anchors into a page you need the macro Anchor: [[Anchor(anchorname)] ] , where "anchorname" is the actual identifier of the anchor. To reference an anchor on the same wiki page use [#anchorname]  or [#anchorname label text] . To link to an anchor on another wiki page write [wiki:Self:PageName#anchorname]  or [wiki:Self:PageName#anchorname label text] , where "PageName" is the name of the other page and
[12:22] <AlexLatchford>  "anchorname" is the identifier of the anchor on that page.
[12:23] <dfarning> thanks
[12:23] <dfarning> time for dinner
[12:23] <AlexLatchford> so put the wiki tag.. [[Anchor(*Name of Tag*)] ]  and then link to it using the #*Name of Tag* in the ["MozillaTeam/Bugs#*Name of Tag*"]  line
[12:24] <dfarning> I will do so