[00:00] <minimec> rodney77: ok. so try to 'sudo modprobe bttv' in a terminal, and if you are successful, add it to /etc/modules. It might be, that you have to add some driver options in /etc/modprobe.d/somefileyoucreate
[00:00] <kali_eskrima> Hi does anyone know and help me to guide me trough to network manager removal and changing ssid name? tgus would be due the the wireless problem on my 12.04 lte which keeps more not working than working.
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> kali_eskrima, can you show us the put put of. lsb_release -a
[00:01] <shagelito> greetings !
[00:02] <solars> hey, can anyone tell me where in the kernel I can find this driver: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v3.12/drivers/misc/lis3lv02d/Kconfig to enable it?
[00:02] <MonkeyDust> kali_eskrima  http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/03/disable-network-manager-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/   <-- 11.10 hope it's still useful
[00:02] <rodney77> minimec, i ran the command and there was no output. it just took me to a new line with a new command prompt. does this mean it was successful?
[00:03] <user2> i am getting the erro4 "can not find GRLD on all devices" i have tried uninstall wubildr and coping the the wubildr.* files from ubuntu/winboot to my root c drive but i am still getting this issue could some please point me in the right direction or to some documantion thank you
[00:03] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee oh hi, yes hold on a sec,. the user hitsujiTMO actualy told me how to do it, and i saved it on my pc. i actualy saved it with parts missing and i cant do it. he said something about creating some folder with specific names and i saved the copy of it will provide the links... thanks
[00:03] <whisky_> Hey,  is it down http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/xorg-edgers/raring/main/base/nvidia-331 ? Or do I have a problem?
[00:03] <kali_eskrima> MonkeyDust thank you will look into it
[00:03] <MonkeyDust> user2  wubi is a windows application, it's not a real installation
[00:04] <minimec> rodney77: That's normal. 'ls /dev/video*' If you were successful, you should have an additional video device. /dev/video0 is often the webcam
[00:04] <minimec> rodney77: But I am rahter pessimistic. I had a bttv device once. They are normally detected out of the box.
[00:04] <user2> MonkeyDust: love the tv show if the name refer to that, any idea what i might be doing wrong here? it was working yesterday
[00:05] <MonkeyDust> user2  no, wubi is obsolote, guess it's no longer maintained
[00:05] <rodney77> minimec, it doesn't look like /dev/video exists at all
[00:05] <MonkeyDust> obsolete*
[00:05] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/6423849/
[00:06] <user2> MonkeyDust: i tried booting the dvd from an external drive, it gets as far as grub, but after i choose install or live cd i just get a black screen. i think it has something to do with UEFI verson one that is build in to the macbook pro firmware, it fails on usb boot as well
[00:06] <user2> MonkeyDust: if i can just get any kind of terminal running i should be able to fix the issue
[00:06] <whisky_> Hey,  is it down http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/xorg-edgers/raring/main/base/nvidia-331 ? Or do I have a problem?
[00:07] <pero> q
[00:07] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee here are the two links i was given.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6392441/
[00:07] <MonkeyDust> user2  is that a mac?
[00:07] <minimec> so. the card is not recognized. Try to edit 'sudo gedit /etc/default/bootlogd' once, and change 'BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=' to yes. then reboot. You will then get a '/var/log/boot' file with all the messages during boot.
[00:07] <pero> exit
[00:07] <minimec> rodney77: see above.
[00:07] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nille and this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/6392446/
[00:08] <user2> MonkeyDust: yes macbook pro 2008 edition, its a laptop
[00:08] <MonkeyDust> user2  wubi on a mac, that's beyond me, maybe someone else can help better
[00:09] <minimec> rodney77: You can then check that boot file, or even 'pastebinit /var/log/boot' (sudo apt-get install pasteinit). Pasteinit gives you a link, that you can post here. We can then check the log file.
[00:09] <user2> user2: no its wubi on windows 8.1, the hardware is a mac book pro though
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> user2, wubi wont run in W8
[00:09] <user2> wilee-nilee: really, what makes you say that?
[00:09] <MonkeyDust> user2  that's even more beyond me :)
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> user2, Hehe because it's a known fact.
[00:10] <user2> wilee-nilee: i installed it and got ubuntu working fine yesterday using wubi on 8.1
[00:10] <kali_eskrima> wille-nilee please keep in mind that im new to linux-ubuntu and i dont know much of things around, apart from the desktop interface. i dont know how to use that good the terminal, or crating executable folders. and so on.... im good with the computers and learning fast, just to the new things im a bit lost. and still learning.. thanks for patience
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> user2, Then you have a magical touch.
[00:11] <MonkeyDust> !mac | user2
[00:11] <user2> wilee-nilee: not really, very little has changed with the bootcode from vista,7 and 8. just a few extra feature added which can all be disabled through UEFI menu, non of which and enabled on the mac book pro anyway
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> kali_eskrima, All I wanted to do was confirm you were actually using the ubuntu release of 12.04, your nick gas kali in it, and many come on not thinking twice on trying to get help on other OS based on ubuntu that are not supported.
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> has*
[00:12] <skraito> hi all
[00:12] <daftykins> haaaai
[00:12] <daftykins> welcome.
[00:12] <user2> wilee-nilee: could you please share any information you have on the reason behind wubi not working on 8.1
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> user2, The boot code is not the whole picture, and I don't follow wubi in general, I support people who use it that are forced to though.
[00:13] <kali_eskrima> oh i see hahah actually has nothing to do with the kali os.. i learned that linux is using kali as os, which is an traditional philippino martial art and its a hindu goddess.... kali goddess. google it :P
[00:13] <MonkeyDust> user2  http://askubuntu.com/questions/168608/how-to-boot-wubi-installed-ubuntu-within-windows-8
[00:14] <user2> MonkeyDust: thank dude, i will have a read through the links now
[00:14] <apb1963> I'm getting a "warbling" on my softphone (sflphone) that seems to be related to either kmix and/or pulseaudio - with the latter being more likely.  Any ideas?  ubuntu 12.04
[00:14] <kali_eskrima> MonkeyDust that help that you gave me will actually help me which im using 12.04 LTE ? because that is for the 11.10 ??
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> user2, I did not say W8.1 but W8, this was towards the start of the actual W8 release I saw this, maybe wubi has been modified I don't know or really care to be honest.
[00:15] <MonkeyDust> user2  tip: wubi is not popular here
[00:15] <kali_eskrima> wille-nilee i didnt use ur name to click on you...... anyway i said oh i see hahah actually has nothing to do with the kali os.. i learned that linux is using kali as os, which is an traditional philippino martial art and its a hindu goddess.... kali goddess. google it :P
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> lol
[00:15] <user2> MonkeyDust: lol ye i can see why, i would much prefer to boot from a dvd/usb but i just get a blank screen after the grub loader on a dvd/usb boot would you happen to know why?
[00:16] <MonkeyDust> user2  try !nomodeset
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> kali_eskrima, I have a long history of studying comparative myth, however this is a OS channel.
[00:16] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee please see above the three (3) links i gave you
[00:17] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee what that means? sorry is that im deceiving with my nickname?
[00:20] <solars> hey, my cpu freq somehow seems to have a lower limit of 1500mhz - although the cpu could go down to 800, but powersave always ends up at 1500 ... can anyone tell me what is limiting this?
[00:20] <user2> MonkeyDust: thanks i think you might be on to something here. i will go check it out
[00:20] <skraito> skraito> btw anyone wanna join our humble coder hacker team ##0x71 ? no satan church nor hater of Jesus Christ nor 0x81
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> skraito, that is spam here.
[00:21] <skraito> wow is amazing 0x81 trying to stop me to get my own team
[00:21] <skraito> :p haha
[00:25] <kali_eskrima> skraito what do you do in your humble coder hacker team?
[00:29] <kali_eskrima> wilee-nilee you still around?
[00:32] <kali_eskrima> MonkeyDust you didnt answer my question,,, the help that u gave my is for ubuntu 11.10 i use 12.04 lte will it still work exactly the same??
[00:34] <kali_eskrima> does anyone know where to find a list of all ubunut IRC chanels?
[00:35] <minimec> kali_eskrima: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[00:36] <skraito> :p wow
[00:36] <kali_eskrima> minimec thanks
[00:36] <skraito> suddenly 0x81 don't know what they should talk
[00:36] <skraito> and the channel is quiet again fucking actor
[00:36] <skraito> skraito> btw anyone wanna join our humble coder hacker team ##0x71 ? no satan church nor hater of Jesus Christ nor 0x81
[00:37] <kali_eskrima> skrait why you dont say what is it that you humble coder crackers are doing in your team? and stop spamming btw
[00:37] <compdoc> huh?
[00:39] <svenem> Hi can anyone recommend  a contacts manager on steroids?  I need to store basic amd detailed info on about 300 indibiduals. No, I am not a phile, I just need a pupil notes store for my wife
[00:39] <Totalruin98> hello
[00:40] <Totalruin98> hello?
[00:40] <daftykins> hello?
[00:40] <Totalruin98> hi
[00:40] <daftykins> Totalruin98: ask away in detail if you have an issue
[00:41] <Totalruin98> do you know a lightweight desktop for ubuntu 10.04
[00:41] <Totalruin98> i have 256 mb ram and a pentium 4
[00:41] <daftykins> oh wow.
[00:41] <daftykins> yeah that's going to be a challenge, tried lubuntu?
[00:41] <minimec> Totalruin98: e17
[00:41] <Totalruin98> ive tried lxde
[00:42] <Totalruin98> gnome works, but having 2 or more windows = slow performance
[00:42] <Totalruin98> ill try e17
[00:42] <Totalruin98> bye
[00:44] <kali_eskrima> does anyone know and help me to guide me trough to network manager removal and changing ssid name? this would be due the the wireless problem on my 12.04 lte which keeps more not working than working.
[00:48] <kiwi_> hi ... i cant usb-modeswitch my mobile broadband dongle on 12.04 ... for example i tried '/lib/udev/usb_modeswitch --vendor 0x12d1 --product 0x1446 --type option-zerocd' and also others ... but mode wont switch ... according to lsusb .... any idea>
[00:48] <kiwi_> ?
[00:49] <svetlana> what is a 'usb mode'?
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> svetlana, Context?
[00:54] <jmgk> hi svetlana
[00:54] <jmgk> :)
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> svetlana, Ah, your asking about kiwi_'s post, it is a usb wifi that has at least 2 options of use hence usb_modeswitch
[01:00] <yeyeman> how can I change the default behavior of dragging and dropping stuff from firefox to a folder
[01:01] <yeyeman> for example, if I drag a pic to a folder it creates a link
[01:01] <yeyeman> I ofc want it to save the pic instead
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> yeyeman, Yoy would just do a right click and save image as or any of the several options
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> You*
[01:02] <reisio> yeyeman: pretty sure the internet has that answer
[01:03] <yeyeman> wilee-nilee, but if I'm saving pics from a thread with hundreds of images
[01:03] <reisio> wrong tool
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> yeyeman, Not that easy, and dragging does not work.
[01:03] <reisio> yeyeman: get teh downthemall firefox extension
[01:04] <yeyeman> reisio, I don't want to save ALL images, I just want to save lots of them quickly
[01:05] <reisio> yeyeman: dragging and dropping is never going to be quickly
[01:05] <Fudus> So unselect the ones you don't want?
[01:05] <reisio> but downthemall is just its name
[01:05] <reisio> you can pick & choose
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> yeyeman, You find the cats in corsets site and need just some huh. ;)
[01:07] <yeyeman> wilee-nilee, no comments
[01:09] <Fudus> Firefox's Australis was bumped another version, poor Mozilla having issues :P
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> Fudus, Now that's a glass half empty projection. ;)
[01:11] <Sakinim> hi
[01:12] <daftykins> hello
[01:13] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: <OT> if one takes the air into account, the glass is always full ;)
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> yeah
[01:15] <uncle_ben> does anyone know why some xscreensavers use root window correctly  and some use the generic image even though it's set to use the root window?  same graphics card...why does it "sometimes" work?
[01:16] <k1ng> can anyone help me with 7zip?
[01:16] <daftykins> k1ng: you'd need to ask a question in full for someone to know if they can help
[01:16] <Fudus> uncle_ben: because it is x
[01:16] <k1ng> i want 7za to overwrite all files without asking
[01:16] <uncle_ben> that's your best explanation?
[01:17] <Fudus> and that debian/ubuntu is running a year old version so bugs are to be expected
[01:17] <sheldonw> If I have modified a kernel driver that isn't built as a module in the current kernel, is there a way to re-compile it as a module without recompiling the whole kernel?
[01:17] <Rayhai> Hey, I need some help
[01:17] <daftykins> Rayhai: ask
[01:17] <Fudus> 5.15 v 5.23
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> Rayhai, Do we guess or are you gonna tell us?
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> I guess graphic issues
[01:18] <Rayhai> I'm running Ubuntu 13.10 with Cinnamon 2.0. I just tried installing a nvidia driver (v331.20), but it broke something in my computer, and now my desktop enviroment is completely crashed.
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> bingo
[01:19] <uncle_ben> Fudus, what's weird is that it worked correctly every time with my intel integrated graphics, but when i put in an nvidia card and switched over, xscreensaver used the root window "sometimes"
[01:19] <Fudus> apt-get remove nvidia*, reboot
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> Rayhai, this the cinnamon ppa or the ubuntu repos?
[01:19] <Fudus> ah Nvidia, that would be it ;)
[01:20] <Rayhai> I think it's the cinnamon ppa. Not entirely sure. Completely new to Linux in general.
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> Rayhai, I believe cinnamon is a bit rough around the edges in  13.10.
[01:20] <Fudus> Rayhai: apt-get remove nvidia* then reboot, it'll go back to os
[01:20] <Fudus> then you can try the different types in software-properties
[01:20] <Rayhai> I'll go try removing Nvidia. Although for some reason, I can only run the TTY terminal :/
[01:20] <uncle_ben> Fudus, i know...everyone pisses on nvidia and linux support...but how come steam is using nvidia for their steambox if it's so linux-unfriendly?  do they know something we don't?
[01:21] <Rayhai> Alright, I'll be back with results.
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> wonderful description that gets a noble prize uncle_ben
[01:21] <uncle_ben> ha
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> so erudite
[01:23] <reisio> noble prizes rule
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> I got 3 for  not swearing and giving sick images on freenode
[01:25] <shagelit1> Greetings !
[01:25] <Rayhai> Okay. Thanks! My desktop environment is back.
[01:26] <Rayhai> But now, how do I run programs with my graphics card?
[01:26] <shagelit1> anyone can confirm that i wont be able to get GNUparted threw apt-get ?
[01:27] <Fudus> Here's a newer version of xscreensaver, maybe that'll fix it: https://launchpad.net/~tormodvolden/+archive/ppa/+build/5127350
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> !find GNUparted
[01:27] <Nach0z> um
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> shagelit1, Ubuntu Release?
[01:27] <Nach0z> wilee-nilee: try gparted?
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> Nach0z, Try, I always use it. ;)
[01:27] <shagelit1> well... That's my first attempt to run debian. Even if i experience some big troubles with the GRub2, can you tell me what means !find ?
[01:28] <shagelit1> Im on Debain !
[01:28] <Nach0z> wilee-nilee: no I meant I thought you were trying to find the name of gparted or something
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> shagelit1, Try #debian
[01:28] <uncle_ben> Fudus, thanks
[01:28] <shagelit1> thanks !
[01:28] <Rayhai> Hey, if I want to play a game through steam, how to I make sure my graphics card is enabled?
[01:28] <Fudus> http://packages.debian.org/stable/gparted
[01:28] <Fudus> it exists
[01:29] <Fudus> so apt-get install gparted :P
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> Nach0z, The other user was asking about GNUparted, never heard of it just wondering.
[01:30] <Fudus> r software-properties-gtk additional drivers, pick one
[01:30] <bekks> "GNU parted" is actually "parted" on Ubuntu and Debian.
[01:30] <Nach0z> ah huh
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> That's what I suspected, part of the voodoo partitioner group. ;)
[01:31] <Nach0z> yeah I figured you either meant gparted or just parted. people call it GNU parted for some reason
[01:31] <adamu> Hello
[01:31] <shagelit1> Well thank you (sincerly) for your help. But i checked threw apt-cache search. I found that Gparted. That means its on my debian, right ?
[01:32] <Rayhai> Wait, huh? @Fudus - Do I just put "r software-properties-gtk additional drivers" in my terminal?
[01:32] <uncle_ben> Rayhai, i'm not sure if this applies to your situation, but if you want to try the nvidia driver again...append the boot line with "nomodeset" in grub and see what happens
[01:32] <bekks> Nach0z: It is "GNU parted", since it is the GNU implementation of a PARtition EDitor :) Its official name is "GNU parted".
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> shagelit1, Probably, but this is ubuntu support is all.
[01:32] <Fudus> i mean, go to  software-properties-gtk click additional drivers
[01:32] <shagelit1> okok thks again !
[01:32] <Fudus> pick one of those
[01:32] <shagelit1> see ya
[01:33] <Rayhai> At additional drivers, nothing comes up.
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> been awhile since I ran debian, so boring no updates, never breaks
[01:33] <adamu> This is what I think of Nvidia http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/wp-content/uploads//2012/06/Screen-shot-2012-06-18-at-10.32.45-AM.png
[01:34] <Rayhai> LOL! Yeah, but this is my one and only crap-tastic laptop that comes with an even crappier GeForece GT 630M
[01:35] <Rayhai> So when I look at my additional Drivers. It shows me "No additional drivers are in use" and "No proprietary drivers are in use"
[01:36] <uncle_ben> adamu, http://sas.guidespot.com/bundles/guides_uf/assets/widget_afSvvmoFrl6PgZoATEAput.jpg
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> Rayhai, Did you reboot after that removal?
[01:36] <deveras> hi guys, where do i copy status-header.ssi file to under ubuntu? trying to get popups for pnp4nagios
[01:36] <Rayhai> Yes I did.
[01:36] <Fudus> The last one you tried was from Nvidia's website directly?
[01:36] <Voziv> What's a good gmail notifier that can do multiple accounts? (running kde if it matters)
[01:37] <Rayhai> Erm no. I'll go find it...
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> Rayhai, can you run lspci and identify the graphic hardware that is eally helpful here.
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> really*
[01:38] <Rayhai> Okay. Incomming long message
[01:38] <Rayhai> l00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller (rev 09) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor PCI Express Root Port (rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09) 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller (rev 04) 00:16.0 Communication co
[01:38] <Rayhai> Ohhhh
[01:38] <Rayhai> I cant copy paste it all
[01:38] <adamu> Nvidia and their proprietary drivers messing f***ing up kernel land... :/
[01:38] <Rayhai> I'll do this line my line
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> Rayhai, you would find the exact info and only post it.
[01:39] <Ben64> adam_: don't use language like that here
[01:39] <adamu> Rayhai, Have you had any success with Nouveau?
[01:39] <adamu> Ben64, Okay
[01:39] <Fudus> http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/69372
[01:39] <Rayhai> Never tried Nouveau. I've tried bumblebee, but It completely broke my system. Had to start from scratch
[01:39] <Ben64> Rayhai: looks like your problem is you have a dual gpu system, what you need is bumblebee or something like it
[01:40] <Fudus> GeForce GT 630M,
[01:40] <aegis> Hi all...  Does anyone know of any kind of capability that would allow one server to monitor another remote server and to send an e-mail if it is unable to make contact with the remote server (ie, it crashes or goes down)?
[01:40] <Rayhai> Okay, so this is the driver specific line
[01:40] <Rayhai> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT 630M] (rev ff)
[01:40] <adamu> aegis, Try Nagios
[01:40] <aegis> adamu: Thanks...  I'll check it out.
[01:40] <Fudus> Rayhai: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/69372 try that?
[01:40] <Ben64> Fudus: please don't suggest that here
[01:41] <uncle_ben> adamu, too bad that's not true...KMS is f***ing up kernel land...not just nvidia is affected...google will show you
[01:41] <Ben64> Rayhai: you need bumblebee or something like it
[01:41] <Rayhai> I'm downloading now
[01:41] <Fudus> Its the official Nvidia website?
[01:41] <Rayhai> Bumblebee destroyed my system.
[01:41] <Ben64> Rayhai: that link will NOT work, don't do it
[01:41] <bekks> uncle_ben: works fine here. Even without swearing.
[01:42] <uncle_ben> bekks, yeah, it's a crap shoot depending on the hardware you're using, which kind of supports my point
[01:42] <Rayhai> This is what I just tried: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/nvidia-331-20-install-ubuntu-linux-mint/
[01:43] <uncle_ben> nothing like being locked out with a black screen...no alt ctrl f(x) tty access and nothing left to do but unplug and cold reboot
[01:43] <bekks> Rayhai: So you are running Mint?
[01:43] <Rayhai> Ubuntu 13.10 with CInnamon 2.0
[01:43] <Ben64> Rayhai: look here maybe? http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/using-nvidia-graphics-drivers-with.html
[01:44] <cyro> Hi i'm pretty new to sysadmin stuff. I'm trying to setup logrotate.d for a rails app
[01:44] <Rayhai> I'm a little bit afraid of Bumblebee.
[01:44] <cyro> do I just need to put my conf file in /etc/logrotate.d
[01:44] <Ben64> Rayhai: thats not bumblebee, read it first
[01:44] <Fudus> ah nvidia-prime
[01:44] <cyro> or do I also need to register it somehow?
[01:45] <Rayhai> I'll give it a try
[01:46] <adam_> Ben64: huh?
[01:47] <Rayhai> Hey, is there a way to hide the chat notifications when someone joins and leaves? It makes it a little more tedious to read through.
[01:47] <Mayor_Rob_Ford> Rayhai, what irc app are you using?
[01:47] <Rayhai> webchat.freenode
[01:48] <Mayor_Rob_Ford> Rayhai, Its in the prefrences
[01:48] <Mayor_Rob_Ford> chatting-general
[01:48] <Rayhai> Okay, I think that did it.
[01:48] <Rayhai> Thank you.
[01:50] <Mayor_Rob_Ford> Rayhai, That worked, I was thinking xchat, my mistake.
[01:50] <Rayhai> There was something in the settings, I just didn't know where the settings was
[01:52] <Rayhai> Okay, Just finished installing the things here (http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/using-nvidia-graphics-drivers-with.html). So I just reboot and my GPU should work?
[01:55] <Nixilus> yar
[01:55] <reisio>    p
[01:55] <Nixilus> har fiddle de dee
[01:56] <Nixilus> being a pirate is alright to be
[01:56] <Nixilus> do what you want cause a pirate is free
[01:56] <xangua> !ot | Nixilus
[01:56] <Nixilus> o shit, so forums is the chat public
[01:56] <Nixilus> my bad
[01:57] <xangua> !language | Nixilus
[01:57] <Nixilus> sorry
[01:57] <context> anyone know where i can download an ISO. the site, click download, its saying 1+ day
[01:58] <context> and no, im not on a 56K modem ;)
[01:58] <vimes> fds
[01:58] <Mayor_Rob_Ford> context, What ISO?
[01:58] <context> 12.04
[01:58] <pirret> google 12.04 mirrors
[01:58] <pirret> or something
[01:59] <context> thnx
[01:59] <reisio> context: whereabouts are you, geographically?
[01:59] <vimes90> Hello! I am trying to get Lubuntu to auto run a command http://pastebin.no/349c at start up, and I've put it in rc.locale with sudo in front of it, but it refuses to run O.O
[02:00] <pirret> jus ttell him to google mirror site..
[02:00] <pirret> and he can pick the mirror he want
[02:00] <vimes90> it is a command that enables me to use the HDMI on the computer as it is always connected to a Tv (else the HDMI is ...pure overscan)
[02:00] <geoffm> how come locate doesn,t work
[02:00] <Mayor_Rob_Ford> context, No dailies for 12.04.3, is that what you want? here is the ISO though. http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[02:00] <pirret> geoffm: update-db ?
[02:00] <jrib> vimes90: 1) don't use sudo 2) it's "/etc/rc.local" (no 'e') 3) you probably shouldn't use rc.local
[02:00] <pirret> updatedb*
[02:00] <geoffm> still doesnt work
[02:01] <vimes90> no sudo, what should I use?
[02:01] <Rayhai> Okay, big problem... I installed that nvidia optimus thing... now my monitor wont turn on.
[02:01] <context> mayor_rob_ford: found a mirror thats behaving. thnx though
[02:01] <jrib> vimes90: just don't use sudo, you don't need it as /etc/rc.local gets run as root
[02:01] <jrib> vimes90: why don't you use xrandr instead of this command you have here?
[02:01]  * reisio coughs https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[02:01] <Rayhai> Ohhh, I was able to get to the TTY terminal.
[02:01] <vimes90> xrandr refuses to work with my nvidia driver
[02:01]  * Mayor_Rob_Ford hands reisio a tissue
[02:02] <vimes90> and nouveu refuses to work with HDMI so...
[02:02] <jrib> vimes90: rc.local probably won't work for this but you can try (I'm guessing X won't be up when this runs)
[02:02] <Rayhai> Okay, how do I remove this driver?
[02:02] <reisio> Mayor_Rob_Ford: got any elm bark
[02:02] <jrib> vimes90: xrandr works fine here with nvidia (I recommend trying to troubleshoot why it doesn't for you)
[02:03] <Mayor_Rob_Ford> reisio, let me crack the backdoor and take a look. ;)
[02:03] <vimes90> I tried loads of commands, none which did anything at all to my monitor. But I'll try some more
[02:03] <reisio> :p
[02:04] <Rayhai> Hey, anyone? I just installed nvidia optimus, but it wond load anything to my screen, how do I remove it from TTY termial?
[02:04] <Rayhai> won't*
[02:04] <wafflejock> Rayhai: http://askubuntu.com/questions/219942/how-to-uninstall-manually-installed-nvidia-drivers
[02:05] <Rayhai> Okay... now I gotta find which driver it was
[02:05] <vimes90> urg, any clue as to how I put these values http://pastebin.no/349c into xrandr and make it remember them for every boot_
[02:05] <vimes90> ?
[02:07] <deveras> I've been copying this status-header.ssi file around all the nagios folder, restarting the services...  but i don't manage to get popups for pnp4nagios working :(
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> vimes90, I would guess it is in here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[02:08] <Rayhai> I entered this in my terminal : "sudo apt-get install nvidia-319 nvidia-settings-319 nvidia-prime" .so.... My command should be "sudo apt-get NVIDIA-Linux-x86-319.run --uninstall
[02:08] <Rayhai> ?
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> Rayhai, Not sure other than uninstall is not correct
[02:09] <Fudus> The first one should do it
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> !who | fudus
[02:11] <Anon42038> Hello.
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> Anon42038, Howdee partner.
[02:12] <wafflejock> Rayhai: no
[02:12] <Anon42038> Hello.
[02:12] <wafflejock> Rayhai: if you installed using apt-get then you can just use remove or purge where you had install previously
[02:13] <wafflejock> Rayhai: if you installed with a .sh file then you would use the uninstall flag with that script to run the uninstallation
[02:13] <wafflejock> Rayhai: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-319 nvidia-settings-319 nvidia-prime
[02:14] <wafflejock> Rayhai: remove deletes the binraries and such but leaves behind configuration files, purge should get rid of everything from those packages
[02:14] <Charcoalcat> I got a new wireless card a few days ago (this: http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/2012-10-07-edimax-ew-7811un-wireless-usb-150-mbits-802-11n) and it disconnects me from the Internet repeatedly all day. Most of the time I can barely stay on for a couple of minutes. However, this exact card works perfectly fine on the Windows computers in the house, and my mom and sister have identical cards that never have problems on Windows (but also do on my
[02:14] <Charcoalcat> computer). That page says that there's a problem with power-saving mode turning itself on, but I made the text file to turn that off like it said to. Sometimes it won't connect again until I unplug it and plug it back in, and sometimes when I do that, it stops recognizing it and I have to reboot. Also sometimes it will only reconnect when I delete the router password in "edit connections" and re-add it. This is the output of it from iwconfig: http://
[02:14] <Charcoalcat> paste.ubuntu.com/6424172/ What else can I do to troubleshoot?
[02:14] <FloodBot1> Charcoalcat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:14] <wafflejock> Rayhai: no guarantee it resets your X config correctly
[02:15] <Charcoalcat> ... sorry for the long message.
[02:15] <wafflejock> Charcoalcat: np paste would have been better though, ur paste URL got split
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> Charcoalcat, might help. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=+EW-7811UN
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> Charcoalcat, That the exact unit, if not search with it at askubuntu
[02:17] <Charcoalcat> wilee-nilee: Thanks, I'll look at those threads.
[02:19] <Rayhai> "sudo apt-get nvidia-319 nvidia-settings-319 nvidia-prime --uninstall" Doesn't work. it says "--uninstall is not understood"
[02:20] <geoffm> cd ~
[02:20] <geoffm> ls
[02:20] <geoffm> oops wrong window
[02:22] <zykotick9> Rayhai: it's "sudo apt-get remove foo bar"
[02:22] <wafflejock> Rayhai: see my messages above
[02:23] <sary> Hallo
[02:24] <sary> when upgrading in raring do i need to comment out the raring-backports!
[02:25] <Rayhai> @zykotick9 "E: Unable to locate package foo" - @wafflejock I don't know what my exact driver is, so I'm not sure how to remove it.
[02:26] <wafflejock> Rayhai: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
[02:26] <wafflejock> Rayhai: will show you packages installed using debian package manager which is what apt is using
[02:26] <wafflejock> Rayhai: if you don't see it there then apt isn't going to be able to uninstall it, in that case you need to find the .sh file you used to install to properly uninstall
[02:27] <Rayhai> I just tried sudo apt-get remove nvidia*
[02:27] <Rayhai> It worked
[02:27] <wafflejock> Rayhai: good enough
[02:27] <Rayhai> but now, I still need to find a way to use my GPU
[02:28] <wafflejock> Rayhai: yeah maybe try to get the .sh file from the nvidia site directly instead of using the one in the repos but Your mileage may vary YMMV
[02:28] <Rayhai> 2 Laptops, No wifi, 1 ethernet cable.
[02:28] <Rayhai> This is annoying :/
[02:28] <wafflejock> Rayhai: I imagine... need more ethernet
[02:29] <Anon42038> :3 One Laptop. A backlight that goes out if I put the screen all the way back.
[02:29] <funky> heya
[02:29] <funky> whats /proc is for in ubuntu?
[02:29] <Anon42038> #FirstWorldProblems
[02:29] <inash> hi there. am using saucy salamander, upgraded from raring. upon upgrade, everything works ok, except when running libreoffice & firefox, it shows ugly default gtk theme. on running " gnome-settings-daemon" on console, received message "(gnome-settings-daemon:15259): Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'gnome-settings-daemon' received an X Window System error." any suggestion how to fix this?
[02:29] <wafflejock> heh exactly
[02:29] <Rayhai> #ThirdWorldProblems - I'm in the Philippines.
[02:29] <wafflejock> funky: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/proc.html
[02:29] <sary> inash: for saucy  /j #ubuntu+1
[02:30] <Anon42038> RayHai? Isn't that where the typhoon hit?
[02:30] <Rayhai> I just got some medium winds and some rain. Other places do destroyed.
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> sary, saucy is a release, that is for trusty
[02:30] <Anon42038> Well I'm glad America's got a carrier group out there to help the affected areas.
[02:30] <funky> if i mirror server i can skip it?
[02:31] <funky>    It doesn't contain 'real' files but runtime system information   (e.g. system memory, devices mounted, hardware configuration, etc). For this   reason it can be regarded as a control and information centre for the   kernel
[02:31] <funky> or server restore wont work without proc?
[02:31] <sary> wilee-nilee: , right am getting confused with codename .
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> it happens. ;)
[02:31] <wafflejock> funky: you maybe want to look into rsync and think more selectively about what you backup
[02:31] <wafflejock> funky: alternatively check out dd and copy whole disk or parititon to an image
[02:32] <Rayhai> Okay, I'll be back, switching off this awful windows8 laptop for my beautiful ubuntu. I still need help on getting a driver that works.
[02:32] <Anon42038> Windows -_-
[02:32] <Anon42038> I'm on a full Ubuntu Laptop. :3
[02:33] <wafflejock> My ubuntu has a minor Windows infection in it's virtual box
[02:33] <sary> So is it save to upgrade in raing while the backports repo are enabled!?
[02:33] <funky> wafflejock: I am using jungle disk software, it can copy all but that /proc
[02:34] <funky> I simply wonder if I skip /proc can I restore server without it, yes or no
[02:34] <Rayhai> Okay. Back.
[02:34] <funky> if its like windows /temp then its irrelevant
[02:34] <wafflejock> funky: sorry don't have experience with it but dd does block by block copy of an entire partitition or disk to a file and back, clonezilla is a nice bootable iso that handles setting up network shares and the like before running dd and helps a lot
[02:34] <Jordan_U> funky: Yes, you can (and should) skip /dev/, /proc/, and /sys/ when backing up.
[02:34] <wafflejock> funky: believe it will not matter
[02:34] <funky> cool
[02:35] <funky> Jordan whats in /dev and /sys?
[02:35] <Rayhai> So far, I've tried the official Nvidia driver, nvidia optimus, and bumblebee. None have worked for my GeForce GT630M
[02:35] <Rayhai> What do I try now?
[02:35] <sary> the open source driver!
[02:35] <Anon42038> OPEN SOURCEEEE
[02:36] <Rayhai> Sounds scary and unreliable
[02:36] <Anon42038> I actually believe my Laptop is using all Open source drivers available to it.
[02:36] <wafflejock> funky: if you go up a level from the link I sent you it has more of the file system described http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> sary, This link might give you info that will help in general. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[02:36] <sary> are you sure the bubblebee configu setting are corrct!
[02:36] <Rayhai> Where do I sign up!
[02:36] <bekks> Rayhai: sign up for what?
[02:36] <Rayhai> Open Source drivers
[02:36] <sary> wilee-nilee: i'll check it, thank you
[02:36] <Anon42038> Rayhai: My laptop is using all Open source drivers available. I don't think I'm running any propietary(:
[02:36] <bekks> Rayhai: They are provided by the ubuntu repos.
[02:37] <Rayhai> lol, alright then, where can I find a driver for my GT630M?
[02:37] <bekks> !nvidia > Rayhai
[02:37] <Anon42038> !nvidia > Anon42038
[02:38] <Rayhai> Checking it out now. Thanks!
[02:38] <funky> wafflejock:  so dev got data about partitions
[02:39] <wafflejock> funky: yeah believe devices in general
[02:39] <sary> people just tend to ESC reading, read about how a hybrid graphics work!
[02:39] <Rayhai> Hmmm, what is this nouveau? I've never tried that.
[02:39] <wafflejock> more good stuff here too funky http://askubuntu.com/questions/138547/how-to-understand-the-ubuntu-file-system-layout
[02:39] <sary> its th open source driver
[02:39] <funky> when kernel boots it makes new /proc and /dev right? :D
[02:39] <wafflejock> funky: I believe that's how it works, the exact details are beyond me
[02:40] <wafflejock> funky: fstab tells it where to mount the devices but I suppose the kernel or something earlier on is setting up /dev and the like
[02:40] <bekks> funky: Some file in /dev are persistent.
[02:40] <funky> bekks so better keep dev?
[02:40] <funky> and just dont back up /proc?
[02:41] <bekks> funky: you dont need to backup /dev, /proc, /sys
[02:41] <funky> ok
[02:41] <sary> it's beter to moit out backports then!
[02:41] <sary> s/moit/omit
[02:41] <bekks> funky: and backing up /run is not necessary too.
[02:42] <funky> beeks now jungle disk support said they try to add this info to their missing ubuntu howto :D
[02:42] <bekks> funky: Who or what is "jungle disk support"?
[02:42] <funky> its run by rackspace
[02:43] <bekks> funky: And do we support them in here right now?
[02:43] <funky> :P
[02:43] <funky> bekks sometimes its nice to be humorous
[02:43] <funky> ;)
[02:43] <bekks> funky: Well, they should read basic documents.
[02:43] <bekks> !backup > funky
[02:43] <Rayhai> Well, I'm going to give Bumblebee another shot.
[02:43] <Kryptron_>  !nvidia > Kryptron_
[02:43] <funky> plus rackspace making ubuntu howto helps to popularise it :)
[02:44] <bekks> Rayhai: Do you actually have Optimus?
[02:44] <Rayhai> Is this fine to follow? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[02:44] <Rayhai> Nope
[02:44] <Rayhai> I actually don't know
[02:44] <bekks> Rayhai: Then dont use Optimus or bumblebee.
[02:44] <Rayhai> Sooooo?
[02:44] <bekks> Rayhai: you have to find out first.
[02:44] <bekks> Rayhai: Which hardware do you have, a laptop?
[02:45] <antonio__> hey folks
[02:45] <Rayhai> HP Envy DV-7. w/ GeForce 630M
[02:45] <Rayhai> laptop
[02:45] <antonio__> Having a problem getting a Dell Picture in Picture monitor working on my gf's desktop running 12.10 (might be 12.04)
[02:45] <bekks> Rayhai: pastebin "lspci -k" please.
[02:46] <Rayhai> http://pastebin.com/KqAa72gn
[02:47] <Rayhai> bekks: that it?
[02:47] <Kryptron> !pastebin Kryptron
[02:47] <zykotick9> antonio__: to find out what your running, you can use "lsb_release -a"  good luck with the monitor...
[02:48] <bekks> Rayhai: And did you check to BIOS for a possibility to disable the Intel graphics?
[02:48] <Rayhai> Hmmm. Tryna' think.... I know there was something about diabling Intel Rapid Start.
[02:48] <Charcoalwing> http://askubuntu.com/questions/79818/edimax-ew-7811un-usb-wireless-sees-network-but-fails-to-connect-to-it I followed this person's steps and now I have full bars on the router and I can see some other far away routers, too! So, so far so good.
[02:49] <antonio__> can't zybotick9: monitor doesn't work ;)
[02:49] <zykotick9> antonio__: sorry... duhhh on my part ;)
[02:50] <Rayhai> bekks: Any ideas on what I should do?
[02:50] <bekks> Rayhai: Check your BIOS for disabling the Intel Graphics.
[02:50] <Rayhai> Alright.
[02:52] <doner> I use launchpad and bazaar for development and now I want to reinstall Ubuntu. Do I need to backup the gpg and ssh files?
[02:52] <bekks> doner: yes.
[02:52] <reisio> doner: why do you want to reinstall?
[02:54] <nubietol> good morning.. are there indonesian people here?
[02:54] <reisio> nubietol: probably
[02:55] <Rayhai> bekks: Nope, nothing.
[02:55] <doner> reisio: I wanna install ubuntu gnome .
[02:55] <reisio> doner: you don't have to reinstall for that
[02:55] <reisio> doner: just install gnome-shell, log out, choose it
[02:55] <yottabit> is there a community channel for macs?
[02:55] <reisio> yottabit: /msg alis list *ubunt*mac*
[02:55] <sawyer> I have freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 and my mic wont work, but it worked fine in 13.10.
[02:56] <reisio> so no, there isn't :p
[02:56] <yottabit> i'm wanting to install ubuntu on macbook pro 11,2
[02:56] <bekks> Rayhai: then refer to this article: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[02:56] <doner> reisio: I think maybe they have some differences.
[02:56] <reisio> doner: hrmm?
[02:57] <reisio> yottabit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[02:57] <yottabit> i was thinking i could install ubuntu on the macbook after seeing this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[02:57] <reisio> yottabit: you can indeed
[02:57] <yottabit> then i realized, oh poop, this is mpro 11,2
[02:57] <sawyer_> I freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 and my mic wont work, I tried changing things in pavu control but I cant get it to work, but it worked in 13.10
[02:57] <Anon42038> Yotttabi: Full install Ubuntu?
[02:58] <reisio> sawyer_: why the downgrade?
[02:58] <Rayhai> Once I install it and reboot, how to I run a game off of steam with it?
[02:58] <reisio> yottabit: should still work
[02:58] <doner> reisio: I am not sure, just have a guss....
[02:58] <bekks> Rayhai: the same way as usual.
[02:58] <yottabit> http://askubuntu.com/questions/370583/installing-ubuntu-on-macbook-pro-11-2-11-3
[02:58] <yottabit> aye
[02:58] <reisio> yottabit: basically if the live OS (the install media) boots and functions, it works
[02:58] <yottabit> that doesn't look good
[02:59] <I7_> i think ubuntu 13.10 has alot of bug
[02:59] <reisio> doner: you don't have to reinstall, just install gnome-shell
[02:59] <Rayhai> bekks: just press play anf it will run?
[02:59] <I7_> always showing some sort of error
[02:59] <I7_> i never has problem with 11.10
[02:59] <Anon42038> Yottabi?: Boot from Flash drive or whatever you have Ubuntu burned onto
[02:59] <bekks> Rayhai: I never played steam games - why they do not depend on non-optimus nvidia hardware.
[02:59] <Anon42038> If it works through the flash drive it'll work on the HDD
[03:00] <sawyer_> reisio, Because it more stable and it was my first distro around two years ago, so I like it more.
[03:00] <sawyer_> reisio, It started my hatred for microsoft
[03:00] <reisio> regression
[03:01] <Anon42038> Sawyer: My first distro was Puppy linux , but it only made me question MS.
[03:01] <Anon42038> Sawyer: Ubuntu's what really made me hate MS.
[03:01] <Anon42038> (:
[03:01] <andre> Hi! I installed Ubuntu 13.10 along with Windows 8.1 but GRUB doesn't appear at initialization. Can you help me?
[03:01] <bekks> !grub2 > andre
[03:01] <Rayhai> bekks, well thank you for all your help :D. I'll see how this works oout once I finish installing it.
[03:02] <I7_> i think ubuntu 11.10 is the most stable
[03:02] <andre> ubottu, how I send a private message to you?
[03:02] <Anon42038> Andre. Does your computer have UEFI?
[03:02] <bekks> I7_: 11.10 isnt supported anymore.
[03:02] <doner> reisio: Ok... and just for the question, if i need to remove ubuntu from my computer for a time and reinstall it latter.Should I backup these gpg and ssh files?
[03:02] <reisio> doner: backup whatever you care about
[03:02] <andre> Anon42038. Yes, but it is disabled in the BIOS
[03:02] <reisio> doner: all the important stuff should really be in /home/
[03:02] <Rayhai> I wish things like UEFI and SecureBoot would just diappear.
[03:02] <I7_> bekks, 13.10 has too much bugs
[03:02] <I7_> 13.10 always give error even in vmware
[03:03] <I7_> i never has prolblem in 11.10 or 12.04
[03:03] <Anon42038> Andre: So your computer is running in Legacy mode?
[03:03] <reisio> Rayhai: all in good time
[03:03] <Anon42038> Rayhai: It's microsoft's way of keeping a stranglehold on the OEM'S.
[03:03] <bekks> I7_: That still doesnt make 11.10 being non-end-of-life.
[03:03] <andre> Anon42038. How can I now if my computer is running in Legacy mode?
[03:03] <andre> Anon42038. How can I know if my computer is running in Legacy mode?
[03:03] <Rayhai> Honestly, I feel like it's just making users angry. It's the reason why I'm boycotting all things microsoft.
[03:03] <reisio> what's legacy mode
[03:04] <I7_> bekks, they should test and fix bugs before releasing the release
[03:04] <Anon42038> Legacy mode for UEFI
[03:04] <yottabit> well here goes
[03:04] <doner> reisio:ok,thank u.
[03:04] <bekks> I7_: Do you have an support question for a supported release actually?
[03:04] <sawyer_> reisio, Its what UEFI replaced
[03:04] <Anon42038> As much as I hate to link to it because It's MS..
[03:04] <reisio> sawyer_: what is?
[03:04] <Anon42038> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825112.aspx
[03:04] <sawyer_> reisio, legacy
[03:04] <Anon42038> That'll explain Legacy mode better than I can.
[03:05] <Anon42038> And it'll tell you how to enable it.
[03:05] <reisio> sawyer_: you mean bios?
[03:05] <sawyer_> reisio, Perhaps.
[03:05] <bekks> reisio: sawyer_: BIOS has nothing to do with UEFI secure/legacy mode.
[03:05] <sawyer_> reisio, Yeah, but uefi doesnt like linux
[03:06] <sawyer_> bekks, Well what ever
[03:06] <Anon42038> UEFI Hates linux.
[03:06] <Anon42038> And Linux really hates UEFI.
[03:06] <reisio> oh some computers have uefi and bios?
[03:06] <reisio> and call bios legacy?
[03:06] <bekks> Anon42038: thats just not true.
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> Anon42038, Your comments are not helpful, and just opinions.
[03:07] <I7_> can anyone tell me what are the ubuntu out there.... example, kubuntu, xubuntu....etc
[03:07] <sawyer_> I freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 and my mic wont work, I tried changing things in pavu control but I cant get it to work, but it worked in 13.10
[03:07] <bekks> reisio: There are computers that have BIOS, some have BIOS and UEFI, and some have UEFI only.
[03:07] <bekks> reisio: secure/legacy are UEFI modes.
[03:07] <Anon42038> Ugh what I'm saying is Linux can run on UEFI nicely but some linux users in the community hate UEFI for their own reasons. o.o
[03:08] <xangua> I7_: they are ubuntu
[03:08] <I7_> i want to try one of them
[03:08] <I7_> trying to select the cool one :)
[03:08] <xangua> so do
[03:08] <bekks> !derivatives | I7_
[03:08] <reisio> bekks: what's legacy?
[03:08] <bekks> gna.
[03:09] <bekks> reisio: an UEFI mode allowing you to boot non-trusted installations. Like non-Windows8.
[03:09] <reisio> ah
[03:09] <reisio> legacy, that's some good propaganda :)
[03:09] <Anon42038> Yea
[03:10] <I7_> xangua, how many out there...trying to find the screen shot
[03:10] <xangua> ...
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> I7_, Cool one would be what you think is cool, all can be tries in one install so you can decide.
[03:10] <bekks> !desktops
[03:10] <bekks> I7_: Basically there you go...
[03:11] <I7_> ok thanks
[03:11] <sawyer_> I freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 and my mic wont work, I tried changing things in pavu control but I cant get it to work, but it worked in 13.10
[03:12] <Kryptron> !ubuntu > Kryptron
[03:12] <I7_> bekks, speed wise are the same right no matter what version it is
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> I7_, Some desktops are lighter than others, depending on your hardware may run faster.
[03:16] <Phoenixz> For some reason, (as far as I could see, no reason) my PHP went from fine to segfaults only... I was working, out of the blue, boom.. I traced the problem to either the PDO module, or libapache-mod-php5.. The latter, I'm not sure because I first noticed the segfaults on CLI. I tried reboot, reinstall, but when I tried to purge the packages, I got lots of errors on libapache-mod-php5. Status right now is that I cannot apt-get purge libapache2-mod-
[03:16] <Phoenixz> php5 php5, it errors with "ERROR: Module php5 does not exist!" and then it dies. Anybody here know what I could do besides a complete reinstall which is not really an option for me at this (kinda critical, i have people waiting for my work which I cannot finish now) moment?
[03:16] <Phoenixz> The only possibly relevant thing I can think of is that a few weeks ago I enabled 32 bit packages (I have 64 bit install), which I remember was required for something I needed to install back then.. I don't know if its relevant, but I also do not recall how to disable this.. Does anybody know how to disable 32 bit repo?
[03:17] <Phoenixz> So anybody who might know?
[03:18] <sawyer_> I freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 and my mic wont work, I tried changing things in pavu control but I cant get it to work, but it worked in 13.10
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> !patience | sawyer_
[03:20] <sawyer_> wille-nilee, No offence, but is it so hard to just say have patience?
[03:21] <sawyer_> wilee-nilee, Sorry, but it bugs me all the people with the bot on this channel
[03:22] <Phoenixz> sawyer_: bots are here to help moderate, don't take offence
[03:22] <Phoenixz> sawyer_: that, and from memory, I had a similar problem on my toshiba laptop, 12.04 no mike, 13.10 mike
[03:23] <Phoenixz> Solution for me was nothing really, but the update to 13.10
[03:23] <reisio> probably just the kernel, then
[03:23] <reisio> but obviously it could be the alsa config
[03:23] <reisio> hard to get excited about helping you downgrade
[03:24] <Phoenixz> sawyer_: What reisio says...  Why 12.04, why not stick with what works and is new, specially if the new worked, and the old.. well, doesnt?
[03:27] <reisio> I already asked that question
[03:27] <d0nger> i need some help please. everytime i unsuntall a program, and re install, it remembers the settings i had before i removed it. I use janito to clean up after uninstall so why does it do this?
[03:27] <reisio> didn't get a very good reason, IMO :)
[03:27] <Phoenixz> reisio: Any particular reason why ALSA is still used btw? I might be mistaken, but my kubuntu has like20 audio stacks on top of eachother, all messing with what the previous one did. I have alsa, gstreamer, phonon and pulse IIRC.. Why not just use?
[03:27] <Phoenixz> Why not just use one?
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> d0nger, use purge not remove
[03:27] <reisio> d0nger: your settings are frequently kept in ~/
[03:27] <reisio> d0nger: so you don't lose them
[03:27] <Phoenixz> d0nger: apt-get purge package?
[03:28] <reisio> Phoenixz: alsa is virtually the only choice
[03:28] <reisio> Phoenixz: the rest work on top of it
[03:28] <Phoenixz> d0nger: insteald of apt-get remove.. that is, if you use the command line
[03:28] <Phoenixz> reisio: Well, yeah, got that part but.. Why in all these years has nobody really worked on one good working audio stack that everybody can use?
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> d0nger, App configs are in ~/.configs as well at leat some
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> least*
[03:29] <d0nger> where do i find that folder wilee-nilee
[03:29] <reisio> Phoenixz: because it's already good :)
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> d0nger, open home and do ctrl-h to unhide .configs
[03:30] <reisio> if it weren't good enough, it would be replaced, that's how open source works
[03:31] <Phoenixz> reisio: uurrr.. :) Audio, in the last 10 years, way up to at least 12.10 (I just never used 13.04 because it crashed all over the place) always has been the problem child.. always "suddenly stopped working without explanation", and then I had to mess around on the command line in config files, and alsamixer on command line..  Plus, everybody builds on top of alsa, with other intermediary levels..
[03:31] <d0nger> wilee-nilee,  i dont see kdenlive in the .config folder
[03:31] <d0nger> i used purge command though
[03:31] <reisio> Phoenixz: hasn't been my experience
[03:31] <reisio> but I don't use Ubuntu
[03:31] <kostkon> Phoenixz, nowadays it's pulseaudio on top of alsa. gstreamer and phonon are multimedia frameworks
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> d0nger, Some are there some are not.
[03:31] <reisio> nor have I ever had problems with flash or 64-bit
[03:31] <reisio> these are largely imaginary problems, IMO
[03:32] <Phoenixz> kostkon: yeah, but phonon (from what I have seen here) uses gstreamer with some mix of pulse audio, and that all on top of ALSA, please correct me if I am very wrong..  It all seems very... patched together.. not just one strong "this is it and it works" if you know what I mean.
[03:32] <reisio> Phoenixz: all you actually need is alsa
[03:33] <reisio> the rest is the fault of your particular DE and/or distro
[03:33] <kostkon> Phoenixz, gst and phonon can talk directly to pulse that's true. pulse is the sound server
[03:33] <reisio> or whatever top-level software it is that deps it in
[03:33] <Phoenixz> reisio: flash has always been horrible, but then again, thats adobe.. Cant wait till thats gone :)
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> d0nger, This a ppa install?
[03:33] <reisio> Phoenixz: horrible yes
[03:33] <reisio> just not more horrible than on Windows
[03:34] <d0nger> kdenlive from software center
[03:34] <Phoenixz> reisio: true, true
[03:35] <d0nger> still didn't work. immissing some options it had when i first installed it, now it's missing options
[03:35] <sawyer_> Phoenixz, Because 12.04 works better, exept for this one thing
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> !find kdenlive
[03:36] <Phoenixz> d0nger: missing options does not really sound like a config issue..?
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> !info kdenlive
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> just checking if in the repos the web gives conflicting info for kdenlive
[03:36] <sawyer_> So does some one actually know how to fix it?
[03:37] <Phoenixz> sawyer_: patience :) If somebody knows, they will answer
[03:37] <Nach0z> a/w 36
[03:38] <Nach0z> whoops.
[03:47] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: Does it recognize the microphone but just doesn't pick up sound, or does it not recognize it at all? Does it recognize other microphones?
[03:48] <urgodfather> hello room
[03:49] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: Have you tried anything besides pavu control? http://askubuntu.com/questions/133903/internal-microphone-not-listed-in-sound-settings There are some other ideas on this page.
[03:49] <reisio> 'lo urgod
[03:49] <urgodfather> is there a way that i can install ubuntu, prep it the way i want, then generate an installer so that i won't have to repeat over and over again?
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, Same release?
[03:51] <urgodfather> i was gonna use the lts
[03:52] <urgodfather> but really i plan to use ubuntu as the backbone.
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, There are a number of ways to speed it up, and actual "installer" is well questionable in the definition of.
[03:53] <urgodfather> build from command line up with what i want, tweak it, then pack it into an installable form
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, all you need is that command line really of what you install.
[03:54] <TimR> can anybody tell me why I cant edit SSH port anymore I didhave it on port 26 but it dont work anymore so when I switched it back to port 22 it works
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> sudo apt-get install "put apps list here"
[03:55] <Mapley> How did the Ubuntu devs achieve a seamless transition from Plymouth to LightDM without any VT messages leaking through?
[03:55] <Phoenixz> Hum,.. I just did apt-get purge libmysqlclient18:i386 just to see what would get uninstalled and surprise surprise, I did not get a "are you sure...".. I guess the decision has been made, I will have to reinstall since right now even KDE itself is gone...
[03:55] <Phoenixz> This is NOT a good day...
[03:55]  * Phoenixz needs a beer
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> Mapley, voodoo
[03:55] <urgodfather> yeah, but i also plan to customize some of those apps. one in particular.. but i don't think there is a method to tweak via command line
[03:56] <Mapley> wilee-nilee, :c
[03:57] <ajdjawdoiawdioj> When I do a sound test Front Left and Front Right plays audio. With a headset in the analog audio port only Front Right plays audio. The headset plays audio in both with any other device\other laptops.
[03:57] <ajdjawdoiawdioj> Is this a motherboard issue or pulse audio?
[03:59] <Charcoalwing> urgodfather: Could you save the config files for it?
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, There are a number of ways to have a faster semi-automated install as far as triggering parts of it, and or cloning, or making your own install disc, however this channel is direct support. My suggestion is to do some research to get to some more specifics, this conversation as is could go for days as is.
[03:59] <superborg> urgodfather, all from the ship that made n4 and n5 simple
[04:00] <sawyer_> I freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 and my mic wont work, I tried changing things in pavu control but I cant get it to work, but it worked in 13.10
[04:01] <urgodfather> can you just tell me.... is there a way to re-package my install as a distro?
[04:01] <superborg> can anybody tell me why
[04:02] <urgodfather> Charcoalwing probably
[04:02] <Charcoalwing> urgodfather: http://askubuntu.com/questions/158865/how-do-i-convert-my-ubuntu-installation-into-a-live-usb-or-live-cd ?
[04:03] <topper4125> urgodfather, http://www.maketecheasier.com/6-tools-to-easily-create-your-own-custom-linux-distro/
[04:03] <superborg> “he’s the n5 is probably closer to the back portion
[04:04] <urgodfather> thanks Charcoalwing and topper4125
[04:05] <urgodfather> thats all i was asking.. point me in the right direction :)
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> Phoenixz, When you run a cli it tells you what is going to be removed.
[04:13] <sawyer_> I freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 and my mic wont work, I tried changing things in pavu control but I cant get it to work, but it worked in 13.10
[04:13] <Guest64573> test test
[04:15] <sawyer_> ubottu this scentance is false.
[04:18] <sawyer_> How can I update my mic drivers? maybe thats it.
[04:23] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: [20:47] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: Does it recognize the microphone but just doesn't pick up sound, or does it not recognize it at all? Does it recognize other microphones? [20:49] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: Have you tried anything besides pavu control? http://askubuntu.com/questions/133903/internal-microphone-not-listed-in-sound-settings There are some other ideas on this page.
[04:25] <fishduck> is SDL in ubuntus repository?
[04:25] <fishduck> nvm
[04:26] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, It sees it, but it doesnt pick up sound
[04:28] <topper4125> is your mike muted?? (Usually as on fresh install)...
[04:28] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: http://superuser.com/questions/644314/internal-microphone-no-sound-level-in-pavucontrol-but-record-with-arecord-paca This person's problem was mono vs stereo; have you tried switching that? http://annevankesteren.nl/2008/04/ubuntu-microphone This is if your microphone isn't enabled.
[04:28] <sawyer_> Nope
[04:29] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, OK I will try that
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[04:30] <FloodBot1> fadasdsad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:32] <CapitalSigma> hi all -- anyone here have expereince with pf-kernel?
[04:33] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, What is the second link refering to when it says Volume control?
[04:33] <fishduck> lol
[04:34] <sawyer_> fishduck, IM not seeing "edit" in either volume setting, or pulse audio
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> CapitalSigma, The channel works with you stating the issues to it.
[04:34] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, IM not seeing "edit" in either volume setting, or pulse audio
[04:37] <CapitalSigma> sure, sorry wilee-nilee, i'm new to irc. i'm running xubuntu, i compiled (with default options) and installed pf-kernel, on start up i'm getting "gave up waiting for root device"
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> To the channel
[04:37] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: Hm, I don't see "edit" anywhere, either. Maybe it's old? http://askubuntu.com/questions/77888/microphone-problem-in-ubuntu-11-10 Here's another page with suggestions.
[04:37] <CapitalSigma> then it drops me into busybox and my keyboard doesn't respond
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> CapitalSigma, In general this is support for kernels in the ubuntu repos, you might try ##linux if no one answers here.
[04:40] <CapitalSigma> okay, thank you
[04:41] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, None worked.
[04:41] <prasannapete> hi, anyone have compiled ubuntu for raspberry pi?
[04:42] <sawyer_> prasannapete, No, I believe there is a debian for it though.
[04:42] <Guest64573> ..
[04:42] <CapitalSigma> prasannapete: have you checked out raspbian?
[04:42] <prasannapete> i have used raspbian, but i wanted to know if ubuntu can be installed
[04:43] <sawyer_> prasannapete, No.
[04:43] <wafflejock> sawyer_: probably check out alsamixer and arecord to check your Mic out
[04:43] <sawyer_> wafflejock, What? arecord?
[04:43] <wafflejock> prasannapete: believe it would not be a good thing to run full ubuntu on a raspi
[04:43] <fishduck> I compiled blender, but all I get (when I start it) is a smaller screen resolution (but no blender). Any experiences? ^^ :3
[04:43] <wafflejock> sawyer_: http://linux.die.net/man/1/arecord
[04:44] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2011304 ? (scroll down to the bottom for their solution)
[04:45] <wafflejock> sawyer_: There's some good stuff on it here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture
[04:45] <sawyer_> wafflejock, Ubuntu, not arch
[04:45] <wafflejock> sawyer_: yeah gotcha same sound subsystem though
[04:46] <wafflejock> sawyer_: I used this for diagnosing stuff with my own mic using Kubuntu, ultimately turned out it was a hardware failure
[04:46] <wafflejock> sawyer_: is it a USB mic? or "regular"
[04:46] <sawyer_> wafflejock, Its internal, but it works in 13.10 and windows.
[04:47] <CapitalSigma> arch wiki often has some great distro-neutral advice on how to get things working
[04:47] <sawyer_> wafflejock, so its not hardware failure
[04:48] <wafflejock> sawyer_: yeah gotcha, in alsamixer you'll see channels as muted with MM under their volume control, if you see internal mic with mm in there you hit M to unmute after selecting that channel with the arrows, if it's not muted in there arecord should work
[04:48] <sawyer_> I think IM getting some where, I increased the mic gain in alsa mixer and now there is a small amount of orange in pulse auudio
[04:49] <sawyer_> wafflejock, Where would I see mm? I dont see it
[04:49] <wafflejock> just under the "volume slider" it either has 00 or mm
[04:49] <wafflejock> if you hit m it should toggle
[04:50] <sawyer_> I dont see anything changing when I hit m, or "volume slider"
[04:51] <wafflejock> weird definitely does it here, just muted my music :)
[04:51] <wafflejock> you're in alsamixer ?
[04:51] <sawyer_> Yes
[04:52] <sawyer_> and sound settings, and pulse audio, but my mic in pulse now has a small orange bar indicating something is making it through, but its not much, and weather or not I actually make noise doesnt move it
[04:53] <wafflejock> sawyer_: http://snag.gy/UICd8.jpg <- here's what mine looks like with the MM and 00 I was talking about
[04:53] <sawyer_> and now under recording there is, "GNOME Volume Control Dialog: Peak detect From Built in audio Analog"
[04:54] <sawyer_> wafflejock, Ok nothing is muted
[04:54] <sawyer_> two things at 00 though
[04:54] <wafflejock> sawyer_: believe that testing ALSA itself using arecord from the arch instructions is the best bet because I'm pretty sure Pulse and/or Jack work on top of ALSA so if that isn't working I wouldn't expect the others to, I'm a programmer but not a Linux expert though still learning the ropes
[04:54] <wafflejock> yea 00 is okay think it just means "open" or on
[04:55] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: Are you talking right at the microphone? When I had an internal one it couldn't detect any sound from me unless I talked *right* into it.
[04:55] <wafflejock> F6 to see other cards too if you don't see your Mic on the first one
[04:55] <fishduck> compiled darkplaces... but when I run it, it just... does nothing but changes my screen resolution. Any ideas?
[04:55] <sawyer_> wafflejock My sound card is Default -
[04:55] <sawyer_> Charcoalwing, doesnt make a difference
[04:56] <wafflejock> fishduck: is darkplaces the new blender you were talking about up there? don't have experience compiling it, is there a problem with the one in the repo? or just looking for the latest cycles updates?
[04:56] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: What does it sound like when you use sound recorder?
[04:57] <sawyer_> charcoalwing White noise
[04:57] <fishduck> wafflejock: I don't have the slightest idea ^^
[04:57] <wafflejock> fishduck: if you just want blender you don't need to build it from source it's available in the main repos
[04:57] <wafflejock> fishduck: sudo apt-get install blender
[04:58] <fishduck> wafflejock: I know, but I want to learn how to do it.
[04:58] <wafflejock> fishduck: fair enough, sorry though don't have experience building that one myself from scratch
[04:59] <fishduck> np
[05:01] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, What do I do now?
[05:01] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: http://www.humans-enabled.com/2011/07/help-when-your-microphone-is-not.html This page has a video about sound settings that could make it not work?
[05:02] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, OK I will try that
[05:02] <wafflejock> sawyer_: yeah so for me it turned out I had one damaged external Mic which I didn't realize ever happened, I reinstalled my whole OS after lots of debugging then eventually found out my Mic was just broken (hooking up the headphone end and talking into them worked, face-palm), my USB mic wasn't working in Hangouts because it was hooked up through a USB hub... so two random problems not related directly to your problem, but I feel
[05:02] <wafflejock> your pain, ultimately audacity helped me verify everything was working because you can easily select the mic inputs in there to test
[05:03] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=f2HYyRgue_8 I don't think the suggestion in the comments here was on any of the other links, it doesn't say anywhere if it worked for the person but you could still try.
[05:03] <Charcoalwing> *. It
[05:06] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: You could also try posting on the Ubuntu forums about the issue?
[05:06] <sawyer_> Charcoalwing, I Dont like doing that because I have been trying to get it to work for days, and I am tired of waiting, I dont want to wait for posts.
[05:08] <DatWolf> dood
[05:08] <DatWolf> im legit blaq as fuq
[05:10] <pretend_genius> Hello
[05:11] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, That video did work, most of those settings arent around in precise.
[05:12] <context> i burnt three dvd's tonight. none of them were readable :-/ i feel doomed
[05:13] <wafflejock> context: check your MD5 Checksum lower your burner speed
[05:13] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1369142&highlight=microphone Here's another thread.
[05:13] <wafflejock> context: also check that they aren't readable by the computer that burned them
[05:14] <wafflejock> pretend_genius: hi
[05:14] <context> well i just converted an iso to image and put on usb stick
[05:14] <context> and still cant boot it
[05:14] <wafflejock> context: I've had lots of things stop a USB boot from working so usually stick to discs when I can
[05:15] <Charcoalwing> sawyer_: Even if it's already been days, maybe a forum post could end up saving more days? It would also give you a place to collect the the things you've tried already and what settings and microphone you have, so it'd be easier to show others.
[05:15] <context> ive honestly never had good luck with usb sticks bootable, which is totally retarded
[05:15] <wafflejock> sawyer_: Charcoalwing makes all good points, if you can't find a post for your particular hardware that makes sense to tag onto making a new one doesn't hurt
[05:16] <wafflejock> context: yeah well I think USB hardware tends to have more variables involved than a CD or DVD where you just have to deal with the different layers but otherwise mostly standardized, USB drives are very variable
[05:17] <wafflejock> context: plus depends on the BIOS being at least somewhat modern
[05:17] <sawyer_> charcoalwing, Ok this one seems promising, its a lot like what I have going on.
[05:17] <context> only a year or two old. i swear ive done it before. just havent touched this box in like 9 months
[05:18] <sawyer_> I have to restart now I will be right back.
[05:18] <context> burning again but slower speed.
[05:18] <context> external dvd burner on my mb air
[05:18] <context> im just complaining to complain. i <3 ubuntu
[05:18] <context> its almost 12am and im a many beers in ;)
[05:19] <wafflejock> :) no worries some days computers just don't want to cooperate
[05:19] <context> some?
[05:19] <context> luckily im not 'that' IT guy at work for many years
[05:20] <pretend_genius> Now I want to be a drunk IT guy
[05:20] <context> my laptop always works (and im not saying that cause its a mac, my gentoo laptop always worked also unless i knew i was breaking it)
[05:20] <sawyer> IM back
[05:20] <pretend_genius> wb
[05:20] <context> i just want to play with this crap before my new server comes in the mail
[05:21] <wafflejock> context: could always go virtual box too if you're just experimenting with OSes
[05:22] <context> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Poweredge-C1100-1U-2X-XEON-QC-L5520-2-26GHZ-NO-HDD-72GB-DDR3-Tested-/261274072295?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&hash=item3cd525f4e7 <-- gonna make an awesome MAAS/Juju/Openstack playground at home (once i have them)
[05:22] <pretend_genius> could you run a different partition OS as a virtual OS?
[05:22] <context> "partition os" ?
[05:23] <sawyer> charcoalwing, Every thing that is happening to that guy is happening to me, but he doesnt have the answer
[05:23] <context> run a VM off a separate partition ?
[05:25] <context> and or / honestly ... just a very nice box to have as a home server for the price
[05:27] <wheatthin> sorry, don't want to be rude, but I think that may be offtopic
[05:28] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386425 This thread talks about some other things in alsa mixer. It's about a person that has sound but it's really low, but it also has a part about unmuting volume.
[05:28] <rhin0> to get better sound use pavucontrol
[05:28] <wheatthin> if it's really low, he might have to turn up the pcm or master channels
[05:28] <rhin0> sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[05:28] <wafflejock> pretend_genius: if you mean can you run an installed OS as a virtualbox machine I believe the answer is no
[05:30] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/131857/alsamixer-howto-disable-auto-mute-mode This one's almost the same but has a couple more alsamixer options.
[05:31] <pretend_genius> I mean booting a 2nd operating system in a first as a virtual OS
[05:31] <wafflejock> pretend_genius: no you can't do that
[05:31] <wafflejock> pretend_genius: I've checked it out some
[05:31] <wafflejock> pretend_genius: the problem is basically the OS is configured based on the hardware and the virtual hardware is different
[05:31] <sawyer> charcoalwing, I have mic and internal mic, what is mic?
[05:32] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1395094 Also since pulse audio/pavucontrol wasn't working for you and neither is alsa, according to this thread another sound thing called OSS could work.
[05:32] <sawyer> charcoalwing, Maybe thats the problem, it seems to want to use mic, but I think it should be internal mic.
[05:32] <wafflejock> pretend_genius: you're better off having shared separate partition that both can read/write for media and stuff you want to share between OSes
[05:32] <aarcane> if I install 14.04 daily build from the ISO, will I then automatically be running 14.04 final if I stay up to date using aptitude udpate; aptitude upgrade regularly?
[05:33] <topper4125> aarcane, should work.. but I wound't recommend it on a system you depend on...
[05:33] <sawyer> charcoalwing, So try OSS?
[05:33] <context> yeah im starting to hate this external dvd burner. it even verified and said success, i put it back in and it says 'cant read'
[05:33] <context> aarcane: 'should' yes? like topper4125 said, if you care, dont do it
[05:34] <Charcoalwing> sawyer yeah, may as well try it. Also huh, I don't know where the extra microphone would come from. Can you turn it off in the normal sound settings? There should be a dropdown for different microphones.
[05:34] <aarcane> topper4125, context:  That's what I was afraid of.  I was hoping to get a head start on migrating to 14.04, but since it's highly recommended against...
[05:34] <sawyer> charcoalwing, I think one of the tutorials I tried had me remove my pulse, so I cant anymore...
[05:36] <context> a head start? 14.04 isnt gonna be THAT much different from 13.10.. and anything you REALLY care about being that up to date should be in a ppa
[05:36] <sawyer> charcoalwing, I cant install oss for some reason, the deb just says :Cannot install 'gcc:i386'
[05:36] <topper4125> aarcane, on systems you depend on, always stay with supported releases (Personally I only run LTS to LTS)
[05:37] <aarcane> topper4125, I'm on 12.04 now, and it's gotten a bit long in the tooth.  I was hoping, since I had time to do upgrades today...  but since it's advised against
[05:37] <fishduck> how do I get rid of the annoying scrollbar in unity?
[05:37] <context> depending on env, LTS or at most actual release... desktop/workstation, id still do release, and PPA the stuff i want to be 'edge'
[05:37] <fishduck> the auto hiding-wtf-whatever-it-is scrollbar and get a normal one?
[05:37] <fishduck> also, whos idea was it to remove the scrollbar and put that weird thing there?
[05:38] <fishduck> it's a terrible idea. If the devs are reading this..... ffs, just add a normal scrollbar
[05:38] <sawyer> fishduck, What wierd thing? Can you link to a picture?
[05:38] <context> fishduck: im sure it was a redhead
[05:38] <topper4125> still running 12.04.3 on this machine... but most of my Software is installed via PPA rather than any repositories... so the software fresh, the OS is stable...
[05:38] <fishduck> sawyer: http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-get-classic-scrollbar-back-in-ubuntu-11-04-tip/  can't be removed like that in my current ubuntu version
[05:38] <fishduck> context: probably
[05:39] <sawyer> fishduck, Why does it matter?
[05:39] <context> damn gingers
[05:39] <pretend_genius> test
[05:40] <fishduck> sawyer: because (1) Can't scroll to the end of a file in one swipe (2) takes 2 damned second until you actually get a grip of it, if at all
[05:40] <sawyer> fishduck, Well I dont know on that one.
[05:40] <topper4125> got rid of that 'option' a while back myself...
[05:40] <fishduck> also, you'll have to fiddle with your cursor to get it
[05:40] <fishduck> sawyer: it sucks.
[05:41] <fishduck> can it be removed?
[05:41] <xangua> fishduck: you just pasted a link that explained how to...
[05:42] <fishduck> Sometimes you want to skim trough a large document really quick, and need to be able to ... ffs, nvm.. any ideas of how to get rid of it?
[05:42] <fishduck> a scrollbar isn't suppose to disappear
[05:42] <fishduck> it gives you an overview too
[05:42] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: "apt-get install gcc.i386"?
[05:42] <sawyer> E: Unable to locate package gcc.i386
[05:42] <sawyer> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'gcc.i386'
[05:43] <sawyer> Need to log out and back in be right back
[05:44] <sawyer> im back
[05:45] <DatWolf> so swaggets
[05:45] <fishduck> fixed.
[05:45] <fishduck> I bug-fixed it with apt-get purge overlay-scrollbar . Will send the devs a patch later
[05:45] <sawyer> Why does it work in 13.10 but not 12.04, thats the part that gets me.
[05:46] <fishduck> xangua: I also clearly wrote that it was irrelevant for my version
[05:46] <sawyer> Gotta log out and in again brb
[05:47] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound Scroll down to "Installing Prerequisite Packages" and try the commands there?
[05:47] <sawyer> Im back
[05:47] <sawyer> Ok, so what do i try now?
[05:47] <fishduck> question: if I have a game running.. can I switch back to the desktop like in windows, and then back to that game window?
[05:47] <Charcoalwing> One of the commands installs gcc, so then you might be able to get OSS working.
[05:48] <madsailor> fishduck: alt tab just like windows
[05:48] <sawyer> charcoalwing, I dont want to try anything unsupported, last time I did I lost my gui...
[05:49] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: Maybe you could try it on a live cd first?
[05:50] <sawyer> charcoalwing, Its unsupported, and that page says its buggy in ubuntu, I just dont think its a good idea.
[05:50] <sawyer> charcoalwing, it worked in 13.10, what is different from here to there that would make it work?
[05:51] <sawyer> charcoalwing, Maybe its my drivers.
[05:51] <sawyer> charcoalwing, how would I go about updating thoughs?
[05:51] <sawyer> charcoalwing, And how do I get pulse audio back?
[05:52] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: "sudo apt-get install pulseaudio"?
[05:53] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: http://www.stchman.com/alsa_update.html This page is about a script to update the ALSA driver.
[05:54] <sawyer> OK I will try that, thank you
[05:54] <fishduck> madsailor: tested that, won't work. Could be that it's just this game that hijacks everything
[05:56] <sawyer> charcoalwing, Ok im updating my driver thank you.
[05:57] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto Also here's a page about trouble-shooting, it gets to the microphone at "No mic working, rest OK".
[05:59] <sawyer> Well , I updated my drivers, I am going to restart brb
[06:02] <sawyer> still no luck
[06:03] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto Here's the troubleshooting page again! It also has a driver updating section, so maybe that way of updating could work better.
[06:03] <sawyer> charcoalwing, Ok
[06:03] <sawyer> charcoalwing, Im trying it
[06:05] <optraz> how to redetect the display fit to the screen? right now the display is larger than the screen can fit
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> fishduck: can you run the game in a different resolution maybe, so its on your desktop
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> !display | optraz
[06:06] <sawyer> charcoalwing, This page is confusing me..
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> !sound | sawyer
[06:08] <sawyer> lotuspsychje, No offence, but unless you are going to be more usefull than playing with your bot, just stop...
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> sawyer: did you actually read the sound url?
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> sawyer: alot of usefull ino on there
[06:09] <sawyer> lotuspsychje, There is nothing wrong with my sound, but nothing is picking up my mic.
[06:09] <optraz> lotuspsychje: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution content number 1, the file  ~/.config/monitors.xml is not exist in my xubuntu..
[06:11] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: The links from the bot also talk about microphone; like the first link has a part that says "Audio Capture - Making your Microphone Work".
[06:11] <Charcoalwing> *microphones
[06:14] <sawyer> Go to menu: Edit ▸ Preferences ▸ Devices. Go to section Recording
[06:14] <sawyer> There is no edit
[06:14] <sawyer> Lots of things say to go to edit, but its not there
[06:16] <kakka> hi, all, i am trying to improve read write performance to the NTFS partitions, i couldn't change them because i need windows also, i am using a HDD and NTFS-3G is more than half slow as compared with windows
[06:16] <kakka> i installed latest version from source code
[06:17] <kakka> and didn't see any performance boost
[06:17] <kakka> i also enableed big writes
[06:17] <kakka> but in synaptic it is showing older version is installed
[06:17] <kakka> but in terminal, it is showing, latetst version has been installed
[06:18] <Charcoalwing> sawyer: I have to go, I hope you get it figured out eventually.
[06:18] <kakka> while removing older version from synaptic, it asks for removing remastersys alos
[06:18] <kakka> i don't want to loose remastersys
[06:19] <sawyer> charcoalwing, thank you for your help.
[06:19] <kakka> i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[06:19] <kakka> ANYBODY HERE, will help me to improve read write performance on the NTFS partitions
[06:19] <sawyer> !patience | kakka
[06:21] <kakka> ext4 is also slow as compared with NTFS, on my system, i am getting read speed from pendrive around 74 mB , while same pendrive with fat formatted, give me speed 50-55 Mbps on ext4 system
[06:22] <linu1> hi i have been trying to download ccid-1.4.12.tar.bz2,but the official webpage not loaded, is it any problem with server
[06:29] <JordanJ2> Hello, I am using a standard account in ubuntu. I know the administrator account password and would like to use sudo -s as that user. How can I do this?
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, I'm not sure you can sudo anything from a standard account.
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> its not in the right group
[06:34] <JordanJ2> I cannot use login <user>
[06:34] <JordanJ2> To gain root privilages
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, Not sure to be honest, I have not needed to use a standard account, but to get admin and use sudo I would think you have to have sudo rights.
[06:35] <topper4125> !root
[06:37] <JordanJ2> I would like to use sudo as another user who is in the sudoers file
[06:37] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, When you make a second user in the gui it has a admin option.
[06:38] <JordanJ2> Yes, I would not like to make them admin
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> admin=sudo
[06:38] <topper4125> sudo -i -u <username>
[06:39] <JordanJ2> That's not working >_<
[06:39] <topper4125> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Logging_in_as_another_user
[06:40] <topper4125> dangerous stuff on that page... use with caution jordanj2
[06:41] <JordanJ2> All I want to do is when a standard user tries to use sudo ask for <admin account's> password
[06:44] <JordanJ2> Is that possible?
[06:50] <topper4125> JordanJ2, see if this helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/user-management.html
[06:54] <uncle_ben> i set up ddclient to update every 25 days...will a sleeping process get reset after a reboot?
[06:57] <no0p> so I have this program that accepts data on stdin, and another which writes to a file.  how do I get these two together?
[06:58] <no0p> can I create a file descriptor that is stdin for a program?
[07:01] <boodroscotch> Hi, I'm using Firefox 25.0 on Ubuntu 13.10, but I don't have WebRTC support. Is Firefox on Ubuntu compiled with WebRTC support?
[07:10] <jmgk> Rajsun:
[07:11] <fahadash> Who the crazy-breaktruck-guy names the OS 'ubuntu' ?
[07:11] <fahadash> Pretty mouthful
[07:26] <lvleph> For some reason 13.04 does not suspend when closing the lid. However, it does recognize the lid closing and I can suspend manually using pm-suspend. Additionally, I do have it set to suspend on closing the lid.
[07:27] <Sanju> HI
[07:28] <lvleph> Hi\
[07:28] <JordanJ2> HI
[07:28] <Sanju> i am new in ubuntu plzzz hel
[07:28] <lvleph> ask a question then
[07:29] <Sanju> how microchip pic programming in eclipse
[07:29] <blurkis__> can some one recomend a product sort of like apple tv  that can send video-signal from a computer to a tv? I want to be able to connect my laptop wireless to the tv to watch videos etc?
[07:29] <lvleph> Sanju that seems like more of an eclipse question. I don't use IDEs so...
[07:29] <blurkis__> it seems (as normal) apple tv is tied to apple products, i want something simular that works with ubuntu
[07:30] <lvleph> blurkis__, I use a Minix Neo X5 mini
[07:30] <lvleph> Specifically the X7 mini has been hacked to run Ubuntu
[07:30] <Sanju> which ide better for embedded??
[07:30] <lvleph> they are android based though
[07:31] <Sanju> which ide better for embedded??
[07:31] <lvleph> Sanju, this is the Ubuntu help channel and those questions aren't really related to ubuntu
[07:31] <Sanju> ok..
[07:32] <lvleph> You can however find a list of IDEs in the program manager
[07:32] <blurkis__> lvleph, thanks. will look into that
[07:32] <fahadash> blurkis__, If your TV supports DLNA/UPNP Media Server connectivity, There are media servers you can install on your laptop
[07:33] <fahadash> blurkis__, To throw in a name, 'Twonky Media Server'
[07:33] <lvleph> fahadash, I think XBMC can do this too.
[07:33] <Sanju> present time i am going to meeting..i talk to lata ...
[07:33] <Sanju> thanks
[07:33] <lvleph> yw Sanju
[07:34] <Sanju> thanks dear..
[07:34] <lvleph> Saturday meetings are the best!
[07:39] <Guest68472> why cant i left-shift 2 key in unbunto stido when at a web browser
[07:39] <Guest68472> studio
[07:39] <blurkis__> fahadash, wel.. its a modern tv so perhaps it does, but I belive it does not help me that much. I want a wireless setup so that I can stream movies etc to the tv.  Using these protocols on the tv does not help the wireless bits right?
[07:40] <JordanJ2> I am running ssh and would like to disable users from entering another users /home
[07:41] <fahadash> blurkis__, Yes DLNA does that. Most new TVs that have wifi enabled come with DLNA/upnp media support
[07:41] <lvleph> JordanJ2, set the permissions on the other users folders so that they don't have read permissions
[07:41] <fahadash> blurkis__, Go to software center in your ubuntu machine, look for media servers, install one and activate it. See if your TV discovers it
[07:42] <blurkis__> fahadash, looked into it, my tv has no wifi..  so Its out of question :(  though it would have been nice :)
[07:42] <fahadash> blurkis__, Then you need a device that hooks up to your home network, much like some adapter or something... Most sony-bluray players have this feature
[07:43] <JordanJ2> Can I do that via terminal?
[07:43] <lvleph> I think my suspend issue has something to do with sudo cat /proc/acpi/event
[07:43] <lvleph> cat: /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy
[07:43] <fahadash> jordan, chmod, chgrp
[07:43] <blurkis__> fahadash, I was thinking more in the terms of a cheap media-device that can stream to the tv, I just need to find one that works with ubuntu and the free media servers
[07:44] <lvleph> blurkis__, sounds like an android tv device fits
[07:44] <fahadash> blurkis__, Latest sony's are under $50, blackfriday is around the corner
[07:44] <lvleph> this is what the minix neo is
[07:44] <fahadash> blurkis__, Google Chromecast has DLNA (Unconfirmed)
[07:44] <Guest68472> the left crntl key open system  vol  cannot  access  oper case letters  does anyone  know how to fix this
[07:45] <Guest68472> in unbuntu studio
[07:45] <Guest68472> i dont know if my keyboard is  encoding wrnk or itis a distro error
[07:45] <JordanJ2> Can I login to another users acount via ssh?
[07:46] <fahadash> blurkis__, Here is an interesting page... http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/08/13/ezcast-is-wi-fi-display-solution-to-be-used-with-actions-micro-hdmi-tv-dongle/
[07:47] <fahadash> blurkis__, If you don't have money, go buy an S-Video or VGA cable (whichever can interface between your laptop and TV) for under $10
[07:48] <JordanJ2> lvleph, I can see no option to do that
[07:49] <sam113101> where can I find dri3proto?
[07:49] <lvleph> sudo chmod 700 /home/<folder>
[07:49] <Guest7127> Why is Ubuntu installing such an ancient nvidia driver by default? the current *stable* version is 331
[07:49] <lvleph> JordanJ2, ^^
[07:50] <JordanJ2> Can I do that from System Settings?
[07:50] <lvleph> Guest7127, what version of Ubuntu?
[07:50] <Guest7127> lvleph: 13.10
[07:50] <lvleph> JordanJ2, no
[07:50] <JordanJ2> lvleph, >_<
[07:50] <JordanJ2> 700? what group is that?
[07:50] <Guest7127> by default it installs 304, I can update to 319
[07:51] <helmut_> hi
[07:51] <lvleph> Guest7127, 304 is the most tested
[07:51] <Guest7127> lvleph: don't you think nvidia tests their driver themselves?
[07:52] <Guest7127> the 33x series was released when steam came to Linux and brought great performance improvements
[07:53] <lvleph> Guest7127,  you can try sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[07:53] <Guest7127> I'm also doubting the old drivers will support new hardware
[07:53] <lvleph> However I have read that 331 is buggy
[07:53] <lvleph> I have been working on getting nvidia to work for over a week now
[07:53] <JordanJ2> What is group 700? ^^
[07:53] <Guest7127> but won't that also update the X-serve and everything?
[07:54] <lvleph> 700 is a numeric representation of rwx - - for permissions
[07:54] <Guest7127> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates also only has 319 and no saucy packages
[07:54] <blurkis__> fahadash, btw, thanks for the conversation. The talk about blueray made me look, and right now.. it seems the best sollution is a simple bluerayplayer with dlna etc. I saw one that even has netflix support, seems like a good solution for me.
[07:54] <lvleph> Guest7127, as far as I know it only deals with the driver
[07:55] <lvleph> Hmmm Guest7127 looks like I need to find the repo that had 331 let me check my history
[07:56] <lucia> sdafsdf
[07:56] <fahadash> blurkis__, np. I've been streaming media from all kinds of devices ranging from Laptop, NAS Server to my TV for 5 years
[07:56] <Sandie> hello!
[07:57] <a4343> Does Ubunto spy on its users?
[07:57] <lvleph> Guest7127, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/10/install-nvidia-331-17-ubuntu-linux-mint/
[07:57] <fahadash> a4343, Good one
[07:57] <Guest7127> lvleph: thx, I'll try that
[07:57] <a4343> So true not true?
[07:58] <fahadash> a4343, Your question reminds me of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc
[07:58] <JordanJ2> lvleph, Can I use /home/*?
[07:59] <lvleph> I believe it will work, but I would be worried about messing it up and then not being able to access any home folders JordanJ2
[07:59] <fahadash> JordanJ2, You got me worried buddy
[07:59] <JordanJ2> :/
[07:59] <duoi> a4343, Ubuntu itself doesn't. However Amazon shopping results have been baked into it so every search you make is essentially routed to Amazon's servers. You can however disable this from taking place.
[08:00] <a4343> I saw that one. Ubunto's position seems to be that it was ok to collect users data and send it to canonical or whatever they are
[08:00] <blurkis__> fahadash, does dlna meen that any program that supports this protocol can stream to the dlna enabled device?
[08:00] <JordanJ2> If I have 5 users, i'm supposted to do that for all of them?
[08:00] <fahadash> JordanJ2, You must know what you're doing... I am not following the whole conversation... But from those bits and pieces, its apparent that this could result into a catastrophic failure
[08:00] <a4343> So the spying occurs by default?  I assume that there is a message box that appears that informs users they are being spied on and how to turn off that feature?
[08:00] <lvleph> fahadash, he wants to make home folders unreadable by other users
[08:01] <fahadash> blurkis__, Yes. And its pretty open technology as well as a de-facto standard in the industry so most Players tend to support it
[08:01] <lvleph> by using chmod 700 /home/*
[08:01] <Joufflu> whatever happened to swap ?
[08:01] <fahadash> lvleph, He is chmod-ding away everything inside /home
[08:02] <pogiako> hello
[08:02] <wafflejock> blurkis__: yeah DLNA is digital life network alliance if it says it supports it they usually talk
[08:02] <pogiako> whats the best stable linux distro?
[08:02] <a4343> If the users dont care like Ubunto says, then there is no harm in having a big disclaimer that shows up when they send off your data
[08:02] <wafflejock> pogiako: very subjective
[08:02] <lvleph> I would be worried that only one user could access any home folder doing that
[08:02] <pogiako> ;)
[08:02] <fahadash> blurkis__, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play
[08:02] <sam113101> where can I find dri3proto?
[08:03] <pogiako> no seriously, thinking of switching to 12.04
[08:03] <wafflejock> a4343: you can go with Kubuntu or some other distro if you like, perhaps Linux Mint
[08:03] <wafflejock> oh gone
[08:03] <lvleph> pogiako, it will only have support until april
[08:03] <blurkis__> fahadash, so for example, I play musif through spotify.. is there some chanse to strean to a dlna device?
[08:03] <duoi> a4343 it's not "spying" any more than Google reading your emails to present you relevant ads. Amazon doesn't care if you search "bomb equipment"-- if anything, they'll give you links to buy the equipment from Amazon. That said, don't assume that you have any privacy from a distribution that doesn't state that it intends to provide privacy.  He left. After I typed all that out -_-
[08:04] <wafflejock> 12.04 is LTS
[08:04] <wafflejock> !LTS
[08:04] <duoi> Brb calling Amazon to track him down\
[08:04] <fahadash> blurkis__, Never used spotify... I mostly stream through Twonky and Windows-Media, they both work on media files from hard-drives
[08:04] <lvleph> for some reason I thought 2 year but you are right
[08:05] <wafflejock> I moved back down to Kubuntu 12.04
[08:05] <wafflejock> was on 13.04 okay but had some hardware problems (actual hardware problems) I mistook for software issues so I ended up downgrading
[08:07] <blurkis__> fahadash, hmm, if a program does not support dlna, is there some tweak to perhaps stream the computers audio out to dlna anyway? if you get me? instead of a musicprogram streaming, some other program catches audio output and then streams it?
[08:07] <wafflejock> blurkis__: sounds like a cool idea... don't know of anything though
[08:08] <fahadash> blurkis__, I can see where you're going with that :P
[08:09] <fahadash> blurkis__, I heard somebody who was bypassing DRM by tapping VGA output and writing that to DVDs and selling all those Netflix movies got arrested
[08:09] <JordanJ2> I have set up a vm with ssh on ubuntu but cannot access outside my network
[08:10] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: what do you mean outside your network?
[08:10] <fahadash> JordanJ2, I would look into VM's configuration to see if NIC is bridged or NAT-ted
[08:10] <wafflejock> fahadash: +
[08:10] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: you need to have port forwarding on the router going to the IP for the VM
[08:11] <JordanJ2> I tried that didn't work
[08:11] <JordanJ2> Using NAT
[08:11] <blurkis__> fahadash, found a samsung bd-f5100 that supports dlna and netflix etc..  seems like a good win for me. :)
[08:12] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: can you connect via SSH when you're on the local network but on another machine outside the one running the VM
[08:12] <uncle_ben> i set up ddclient to update every 25 days...will a sleeping process get reset after a reboot?
[08:12] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: that would be step one I would think, if that doesn't work the port forwarding won't help
[08:14] <JordanJ2> I will try
[08:14] <wafflejock> uncle_ben: don't believe so if I understand you correctly, when the system reboots it may restart some processes based on the session if that is being saved but even so processes don't just resume from where they were in most cases (rsync being an exception I can think of right now)
[08:14] <JordanJ2> 1 sec
[08:16] <he_> 有说中文的吗？
[08:17] <uncle_ben> wafflejock, it's just that my IP rarely changes, so the default of 600 seconds is ridiculous...on the other hand, it seems like from what you're saying, it won't save the state it was in after a reboot and pick up where it left off, so i think i'll just change it to once every 12 hours
[08:17] <wafflejock> uncle_ben: usually you want to put something like that in a startup script somewhere so after a reboot it's back in business http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7221757/run-automatically-program-on-startup-under-linux-ubuntu
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> !cn | he
[08:18] <uncle_ben> wafflejock, thanks, i'll take a look at it
[08:19] <grumpybynight> Hello, all
[08:19] <wafflejock> grumpybynight: hello
[08:19] <grumpybynight> Is this the right place to ask for Ubuntu dual-boot advice?
[08:20] <wafflejock> grumpybynight: sure shoot
[08:20] <nick07> hi, i do know how to mount a nfs share in ubuntu, but i can't get access to it. sudo mount -o soft,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 192.168.2.x:/mnt /nfs  gets this: mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.2.x:/
[08:20] <nick07> i set up a user name in freenas, but how to apply this?
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, yes
[08:20] <wafflejock> nick07: think you add stuff after the -o like username= and password=
[08:20] <grumpybynight> I'm on a Dell Inspiron running Windows 8.1. I want to dual-boot with Ubuntu 13.10. What would be the best way to go about this? Creating appropriate partitions, sharing files, etc.?
[08:21] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | grumpybynight
[08:21] <nick07> ow really ;) let me try that..
[08:21] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, little more. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, Sharing is the easy part just an extra ntfs partition, the ubuntu install is the challenge.
[08:23] <wafflejock> nick07: ah was going based on my cifs share from my own NAS just checked that out for NFS looks like doesn't apply http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1322405
[08:23] <nick07> ok, i see
[08:23] <nick07> what to do..
[08:25] <nick07> showmount -e 192.168.2.x -> Export list for 192.168.2.x: /mnt (everyone)
[08:26] <JordanJ2> wafflejock, I cannot access it from any other computers on the network
[08:26] <wafflejock> nick07: http://nixcraft.com/showthread.php/18145-NFS-server-mount-nfs-access-denied-by-server-while-mounting-x-y-z-w-shared-folder
[08:27] <grumpybynight> @wilee-nilee: Is it really that much of a challenge? I'd done it a few years ago, quite easily. But I guess there wasn't UEFI to contend with at the time.
[08:27] <nick07> let me check that
[08:27] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: okay so need to fiddle with the virtual box network settings I imagine, check the ip on the vm client
[08:27] <JordanJ2> I checked it
[08:27] <dannymichel> Anybody know how to get rid of this border separating the toolbar from the title? http://goo.gl/YSJjDN
[08:27] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: appear to be on the same network? same subnet and all?
[08:28] <JordanJ2> Yes
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, It is for some not for others, never had a uefi computer myself, can't be that hard really, if one knows both OS's in my opinion.
[08:28] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: does the router see the VM (status in the router config?)
[08:29] <JordanJ2> No
[08:29] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: I don't see how it can be connected to the internet if not, but it seems weird you can't connect if so
[08:29] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: can you ping from other computers even if SSH doesn't work
[08:29] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: I wonder if maybe some firewall issue is there
[08:31] <JordanJ2> wafflejock, http://puu.sh/5jOzJ.png
[08:31] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, Interesting thing though is the uefi setups are only uniform across a manufacturer, not among them, they all have their own tweaked versions it seems.
[08:32] <grumpybynight> wilee-nilee: Ah. Maybe I'd be better off running Virtualbox, then?
[08:33] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, I know I would image/clone the setup before doing it is all, easier to reload that if something goes wrong.
[08:33] <JordanJ2> wafflejock, should I change that?
[08:33] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: worth a shot honestly not sure if bridged will hep or not
[08:33] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: doesn't really hurt you can always change back with the network settings
[08:34] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: graphics settings or other hardware changes can cause problems but the network interface has never caused me problems when I fiddle with it
[08:34] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, I have W8.1 and 3 linux on a ssd right now but in msdos with a mbr so no biggie here.
[08:36] <impradeepy> sudo /etc/init.d/module-init-tools restart command not found please help me
[08:36] <grumpybynight> wilee-nilee: All I really want to be able to do is work with Ruby (on Rails) and Python. I guess Virtualbox should suit my purposes for now.
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, Probably so, do what feels most comfortable. ;)
[08:37] <grumpybynight> wilee-nilee: Cheers, thanks for the help! :)
[08:37] <wafflejock> grumpybynight: yeah I'm running Kubuntu with Virtual Box for Windows
[08:37] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[08:37] <wafflejock> either way though
[08:37] <grumpybynight> 2GB of RAM should be okay, right? Allocated to Ubuntu running using Virtualbox?
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, plenty
[08:38] <wafflejock> grumpybynight: will work fine yeah
[08:38] <wafflejock> I'm using 3.3GB right now but KDE is a bit heavy
[08:38] <grumpybynight> Ah
[08:39] <dannymichel> Anybody know how to get rid of this border separating the toolbar from the title? http://goo.gl/YSJjDN
[08:39] <grumpybynight> I used to use Kubuntu almost exclusively a few years ago
[08:39] <wafflejock> actually chrome is the hog right now
[08:39] <grumpybynight> I really liked using Kate
[08:39] <wafflejock> I'm sort of a tab mad man
[08:39] <grumpybynight> wafflejock: haha
[08:39] <wafflejock> grumpybynight: yeah I really just like being able to customize the panels
[08:39] <grumpybynight> wafflejock: Aren't we all
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> dannymichel, post that ping on the web, I closed my account there personally.
[08:41] <dannymichel> sure, wilee-nilee http://d.pr/i/6MdX btw, how did you do that? they told me you can't close accounts.
[08:42] <wilee-nilee> dannymichel, It's not removed just not open is all.
[08:42] <dannymichel> i see
[08:42] <dannymichel> Any ideas about the light border, wilee-nilee?
[08:42] <wilee-nilee> dannymichel, what desktop is this?
[08:43] <dannymichel> unity
[08:43] <dannymichel> 13.10
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> dannymichel, Not sure I use the shell, looks like you have changed the theme though.
[08:43] <dannymichel> i have a bit
[08:44] <dannymichel> but it's ambiance for the most part
[08:44] <dannymichel> Anybody have any ideas?
[08:44] <dannymichel> I looked all over the metacity xml
[08:44] <dreamon> part of syslog -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6425217/ -> line 8 -> gstreamer makes faults. -> any idea what to do?
[08:48] <crackerjackz> i'm bored so i came here to help
[08:49] <crackerjackz> give me something to do :p
[08:49] <dannymichel> know how to get rid of this border separating the toolbar from the title? http://d.pr/i/6MdX crackerjackz
[08:50] <wafflejock> crackerjackz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShbP3OpASA <-Linus for an hour
[08:51] <shagelito> Greetings, there
[08:51] <reisio> salutations here
[08:51] <shagelito> i have a very serious problem with my grub.
[08:51]  * crackerjackz gives wafflejock a thumbs up
[08:51] <solars> hey, anyone got an idea why my cpu does not go below 1500mhz when scaling, although it can go as low as 800mhz?
[08:52] <crackerjackz> wafflejock, here you might enjoy this one.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-FPJ6lpRYU
[08:52] <reisio> solars: don't cross post
[08:52] <shagelito> i installed debian, and i blew it up in less than 48hrs :D
[08:52] <crackerjackz> shagelito, whats the problem?
[08:52] <solars> reisio, I'm not, wanted to post in ubuntu anyway
[08:52] <shagelito> crackerjackz: well i "had" a dualboot who worked perfectly
[08:52] <solars> I think it's an ubuntu issue
[08:52] <crackerjackz> whats it say when you try to boot... (initramfs) or something?
[08:52] <shagelito> crackerjackz: turns out that i messed with the grub cfg
[08:53] <shagelito> crackerjackz: ask for help on forums & #debian
[08:53] <wafflejock> solars: search about the governer you can adjust it with some files to some degree
[08:53] <solars> wafflejock, I know, but there is nothing about 1500mhz in the files..
[08:53] <shagelito> in #debian they aked me to do few things, but i think my helper was just anoyed after few hours hahaha
[08:53] <crackerjackz> shagelito, what happens when you try to boot?
[08:54] <wafflejock> solars: not sure have only tinkered with it a bit
[08:54] <shagelito> "error: invalid arch independant ELF magic.
[08:54] <shagelito> Entering rescue mode...
[08:54] <crackerjackz> dannymichel, i'm not sure what you are talking about
[08:54] <shagelito> so i first tryed to use boot repair
[08:55] <jacobi> do you know how to  install ipv6  in xunbuntu 13.10
[08:55] <dannymichel> if i make a better screenshot, are you capable of troubleshooting theme editing crackerjackz?
[08:55] <solars> wafflejock, alright, thanks
[08:55] <shagelito> crackerjackz: it ended badly. My last chance was a bootable grub2 cd
[08:55] <shagelito> crackerjackz: first, i was able to boot w8 and debian
[08:56] <crackerjackz> dannymichel, i'll try
[08:56] <shagelito> right now, the only ay to boot anything, its threw the grub2 cd. Also w8 wont load, because of a boot related problem.
[08:56] <wilee-nilee> shagelito, debian is not supported here.
[08:56] <dannymichel> crackerjackz http://d.pr/i/zer2
[08:56] <auronandace> !ipv6 | jacobi
[08:56] <JordanJ2> wafflejock, So I port forwarded it but cannot access it off my external ip
[08:56] <crackerjackz> shagelito, have you checked the filesystem for errors?
[08:57] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: you may need to connect from outside your network
[08:57] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: if you have a smartphone (android) foxfi can work
[08:57] <shagelito> tbh its my first hours on debian. I really try to dont let ubuntu away regarding all the problems im facing. So if you can tell me how to check that, ill be glad to do so
[08:57] <jacobi> ok! i will try.
[08:57] <JordanJ2> Let me grab it
[08:57] <jacobi> thank you!
[08:58] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: can use your cell network as a local wifi then and connect as though you're outside the network
[08:58] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: well you will be outside the network
[09:00] <shagelito> whoops back again.
[09:00] <crackerjackz> shagelito, well it all depends on what filesystem you are using... pastebin me the output of fdisk -l  and df -Th
[09:01] <shagelito> crackerjackz: sure ! thks for tryn
[09:01] <wilee-nilee> crackerjackz, This is ubuntu support take debian support to a pm.
[09:02] <sabgenton> this post seems to say  apt-get --build ing a package means you have to remove it by hand http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238898&p=1394089#post1394089
[09:02] <crackerjackz> okay
[09:02] <sabgenton> is the post wrong?
[09:02] <sabgenton> doesn't apt-get --build  make a package that can be uninstalled?
[09:04] <wafflejock> sabgenton: not aware of what you mean by apt-get --build
[09:04] <shagelito> crackerjackz: http://pastebin.com/KngWfG5R do u want me to google translate it ?
[09:05] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, apt-get --build?
[09:05] <wafflejock> sabgenton: if you download source and build it then the make file that comes with the source (if one exists, usually) will have stuff for install and uninstall usually
[09:05] <sabgenton> wafflejock: apt-get -b source packagename
[09:05] <sabgenton> wilee-nilee: -b
[09:06] <pogiako> what's a good distro for a newbie
[09:06] <crackerjackz> shagelito, we have to take this to PM or #debian as per request of the ops bc this channel is for ubuntu support
[09:07] <JordanJ2> wafflejock, I still cannot access it
[09:07] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: so you can connect from the internal network now but with port forwarding can't connect from WAN IP
[09:07] <shagelito> do u accept to help me threw pm ?
[09:07] <calimero_82> hey guys, my audio doesn't work
[09:08] <JordanJ2> Correct
[09:08] <grumpybynight> Do any of you own a Macbook?
[09:08] <crackerjackz> shagelito, yes i accept
[09:08] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: don't know gears grinding.... nothing but steam
[09:09] <calimero_82> hey guys, my audio doesn't work, what should i do?
[09:09] <JordanJ2> Hmm
[09:09] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: would double check the port forwarding and that the router doesn't need a reboot or anything
[09:09] <pogiako> whats a good distro for a newbie?
[09:09] <JordanJ2> Never did before
[09:09] <JordanJ2> Ubuntu
[09:10] <pogiako> trying to look for a  good distro for my mom
[09:10] <wafflejock> pogiako: Linux Mint was good for my parents
[09:10] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, Not sure why you would need to use a build, however remove and purge would work the same I would think, you just want to be careful what you remove and watch for dependencies as usual.
[09:10] <wafflejock> pogiako: they are Windows XP/95 people
[09:10] <pogiako> yeah i guess xp would work
[09:10] <pogiako> where can i get it for free?
[09:10] <pogiako> without pirating it ofcourse ;)
[09:10] <wafflejock> pogiako: oh I was suggesting Linux Mint
[09:11] <pogiako> haha
[09:11] <pogiako> i have that
[09:11] <wafflejock> pogiako: it's similar
[09:11] <pogiako> she doesnt like it
[09:11] <pogiako> coz she dont have time for dat
[09:11] <pogiako> haha
[09:11] <wilee-nilee> pogiako, this is ubuntu support what does Xp have to do with that?
[09:11] <pogiako> and i forgot her username and password
[09:11] <pogiako> wilee-nilee: i thought someone was suggesting me
[09:11] <JordanJ2> Double checked and nothing
[09:12] <unicornjedi> hello, I need help adding a website to my web server
[09:12] <wafflejock> sorry JordanJ2 can't really think of anything aside from port forwarding that should block it at that point
[09:12] <Vivekananda> what is the default file comparison software in 12.04 ? I want to find the difference in code lines
[09:13] <cvstx> herro
[09:13] <JordanJ2> Should I turn off firewall?
[09:13] <wafflejock> Vivekananda: think you need to install some sort of diff
[09:13] <cvstx> jordan yes
[09:13] <sabgenton> wilee-nilee: not quite getting you, I mean you  uncomment some deb-src entry in your /etc/apt/sources.list and then apt-get -b install a package from there,  can you now uninstall this package with apt-get remove  or apt-get purge  Properly?
[09:13] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: u can temporarily to test but if you can connect locally I don't see why the port forward wouldn't work
[09:13] <unicornjedi> can anyone help me add a website to my webserver?
[09:13] <sabgenton> or does it loose its uninstaller abilitys?
[09:14] <wafflejock> Vivekananda: you can use meld or kdiff3 there are others I can't recall right now
[09:14] <sam113101> unicornjedi: what's the problem?
[09:14] <sabgenton> wafflejock: the guy in the forum seems to say it doesn't purge or remove the same as binary package
[09:15] <sabgenton> wafflejock: just trying to work out if what he's saying is missleading
[09:15] <wafflejock> sabgenton: yeah not sure about installing that way, when I've built projects from source for install I've usually gotten them from a third party stie
[09:15] <unicornjedi> sam113101, hi I just set up a webserver on ubuntu 13.10 using LAMP
[09:15] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, I think you are confused as to what deb-src is.
[09:16] <calimero_82> hey guys, my audio doesn't work, what should i do?
[09:16] <Vivekananda> wafflejock: I was wondering if there is already something installed by default. The problem with ubuntu is that for such things there is no way of knowing what is installed and what it does ( esp if it is cli and not gui based)
[09:16] <sabgenton> wilee-nilee: my understanding is it means apt-get update will get you a source based repo  and you can  pull in source pakages and install them from it
[09:16] <wafflejock> calimero_82: can you give details
[09:16] <Vivekananda> I wonder how you guys do it
[09:16] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, I have never used a build command with apt-get all the dependencies are connected deb-src or not
[09:16] <Vivekananda> !
[09:16] <kenny__> Hi ! I need an info about DU command : when i do du -axh it find 4.1GB but DF say 17GB on my / why so different ?
[09:16] <calimero_82> i've distro ubu 12.04 but audio doesn't work
[09:16] <unicornjedi> calimero_82, do you have pulse? does your audio click? be more specific?
[09:16] <wafflejock> Vivekananda: you can google to see what's there or use dpkg --get-selections | grep diff
[09:17] <wafflejock> Vivekananda: just gotta know a couple of commands to look for stuff
[09:17] <Vivekananda> but the program might not even be named "diff" eg meld
[09:17] <wafflejock> Vivekananda: true google would though, or wikipedia
[09:17] <wafflejock> Vivekananda: don't be angry you have too many options :)
[09:18] <JordanJ2> How do I stop a user from viewing others home directories?
[09:18] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: think you need to look into chroot for jailing a user through ssh
[09:18] <Joufflu> JordanJ2, punch'm in the back of his head.
[09:18] <unicornjedi> can some one help me with my web server?
[09:19] <JordanJ2> wafflejock, Where?
[09:19] <osiris33x> Hello all. I find that my laptop's trackpad as far too sensitive under Ubuntu, despite turning the sensitivity all the way down. Are there any third party apps or maybe more settings I can tweak to make the touchpad less jumpy?
[09:19] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93411/simplest-easy-way-to-jail-users
[09:19] <wafflejock> Google
[09:20] <wafflejock> osiris33x: does it just click under your palm or is it too fast?
[09:20] <osiris33x> When pulling my finger up off the trackpad, the cursor zips around.
[09:20] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, hi go to the DASH and type in Dconf
[09:21] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, Tell me when you're there
[09:21] <osiris33x> I'm a newbie, is DASH a terminal? (sorry)
[09:21] <kenny__> nobdy know where to find my lost GB ? ^^
[09:22] <wafflejock> kenny__: you want to see your file tree by size?
[09:22] <trijntje> osiris33x: no, the dash is the search prompt you get when you hit the super/windows key
[09:22] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, press the WINDOWS key or the APPLE key
[09:22] <osiris33x> Oh, okay.
[09:22] <Jordan_U> kenny__: What filesystem are you using? Do you have any large files currently open? Were there any permissions errors from the du command?
[09:22] <wafflejock> kenny__: sudo apt-get install ncdu
[09:22] <wafflejock> kenny__: sudo ncdu /
[09:23] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, when you are in the dash... type Dconf
[09:23] <osiris33x> It brings up AskUbuntu
[09:23] <unicornjedi> really?
[09:23] <trijntje> osiris33x: it searches both your computer and online sources
[09:23] <osiris33x> Understood.
[09:24] <nbastin> Does anyone know how to partition disks using preseed?
[09:24] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, are you in the editor?
[09:24] <osiris33x> Haven't found dconf yet, still trying.
[09:25] <kenny__> mmm like DU NCDU find only about 4GB excluding home far from 17GB from DF
[09:25] <osiris33x> Font Viewer application is the only app that comes up when searching for dconf
[09:25] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, press CTRL+ALT+T
[09:25] <kenny__> (home is on another part)
[09:25] <osiris33x> Terminal open
[09:25] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, A terminal should pop-up. type in     dconf-editor
[09:26] <osiris33x> Says it's not installed, and to use apt-get to do that. I'll try that first.
[09:26] <ripthejacker> how can I stream audio from one device to other device in the network?
[09:27] <osiris33x> Got it, dconf-editor is now running.
[09:27] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: depends on the protocols supported by the devices
[09:28] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: both are ubuntu systems
[09:28] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, Sweet. Okay tell me when dconf is up
[09:28] <marandi> hi guys , i installed lamp in my computer and i wanna have access from all over network to www sites so i change listen *:80 in ports.conf ! but still i cant access to them , what should i do ?!
[09:28] <osiris33x> It's up.
[09:28] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: can just share the files can use subsonic
[09:29] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: not just files, everything from system sounds, to the videos I'm watching in youtube.
[09:29] <kiwi_> hi ... yesterday i installed 12.04 amd64. using a usb broadband modem with the live cd or the fresh harddrive install was no problem. however, after updating the system, the modem was not 'usb-modeswitched' correctly anymore. it took me >8 hours to figure it out and finally make the correct usb-modeswitch configurations. i just wanted to report this here, in case any developers are present.
[09:29] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, Okay...  in left the panel... right click on "org"
[09:29] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, I mean LEFT click
[09:30] <osiris33x> Done
[09:30] <kenny__> Jordan_U, It"s an ext4 and the only big file is an mysql base
[09:30] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: the system sounds part is optional, but you get the point, like all the sound can be stream to the other device
[09:30] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: yeah second time I heard that kind of request tonight but don't know
[09:30] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, in left the panel... click "gnome"
[09:30] <kenny__> Jordan_U, and no permission error
[09:30] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: someone wanted DLNA on audo subsystem basically
[09:30] <wafflejock> same idea
[09:31] <osiris33x> Done
[09:31] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: http://chemicaloliver.net/linux/streaming-audio-from-ubuntu-linux-to-a-dlna-player-blu-ray-or-ps3/
[09:31] <marandi> hi guys , i installed lamp in my computer and i wanna have access from all over network to www sites so i change listen *:80 in ports.conf ! but still i cant access to them , what should i do ?!
[09:31] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: guess it does exist
[09:32] <unicornjedi> osiris33x, after that scroll down to "settings-daemon" then click "peripherals, then click touchpad
[09:32] <osiris33x> Found it.
[09:32] <wafflejock> marandi: you restart the server
[09:33] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: No DLNA, it's an ethernet network
[09:33] <osiris33x> Looks like I need to change the motion threshold?
[09:33] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: why does that mean no DLNA?
[09:33] <unicornjedi> the threshold is for controlling how many pixels the mouse can move before the acceleration kicks in
[09:34] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: http://www.dlna.org/
[09:34] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: Sorry, maybe I misunderstand dlna
[09:34] <marandi> wafflejock: i did restart the server !
[09:34] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: yeah it's just for streaming media on a network
[09:35] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: I thought it was only wireless
[09:35] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: it's a protocol lots of stuff supports can get apps on your smart devices and stuff, but just  a protocol for sharing the media
[09:35] <marandi> wafflejock: but nothing happened , i still dont access to apache website folder !
[09:35] <wafflejock> marandi: so you have localhost access but going to the server by IP is failing
[09:36] <marandi> wafflejock: exactly ! i try to open webserver with apache computer ip address which is <IP_ADDRESS> !
[09:36] <unicornjedi> orisis33x, how is it?
[09:37] <marandi> wafflejock: ok , solved , i opened 80 port in localhost
[09:37] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: Actually I was thinking something like this. My machine would have an audio server and devices can connect to the server.
[09:38] <jgcampbell300> i am trying to find a good virtual machine manager for XEN ... anyone have any suggestions
[09:38] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: I was thinking alsa server would be something like this
[09:38] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: yeah think that link I dropped at first wil do it
[09:38] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: not sure about alsa server doing it directly that may work too
[09:38] <unicornjedi> hello can someone help me with my webserver? I dont know how to add a website to it
[09:39] <kenny__> du -hsx  / must show all space used on the / partition right ?
[09:39] <jgcampbell300> unicornjedi, what web server
[09:40] <unicornjedi> jgcampbell300, a LAMP server
[09:40] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: if you install the rygel packages there though it looks like you can setup the audio to be broadcast as DLNA audio then you can setup any DLNA client device/program to play it
[09:40] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: thanks , I was looking for something like that, I don't know if I will be able to make Ubuntu stream to an Ubuntu , but I can certainly stream to my phone.
[09:40] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: Ok
[09:41] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: should be able to find a DLNA player in Ubuntu too I imagine
[09:41] <wafflejock> I've only used ones on
[09:41] <wafflejock> andriod though
[09:41] <ripthejacker> I have used a dlna server before in ubuntu, minidlna
[09:41] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: but it was just for files
[09:41] <jgcampbell300> unicornjedi, did you read the man pages
[09:41] <wafflejock> yeah looks like that rygel thing gets everything from pulse, but haven't tried
[09:41] <wilee-nilee> kiwi_ The developers do not come here, if you have a detailed description of what happened and your fix it might be relevant, a 3rd party dongle is not really relevant though, however I recognize your frustration
[09:42] <wafflejock> it sounds interesting anyhow
[09:42] <unicornjedi> jgcampbell300, nooo.....? I prefer simple step by step procedure
[09:42] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: Yes, I'll definitely try that, thanks for the help :)
[09:42] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: np good luck
[09:42] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: have you used mediatomb?
[09:43] <jgcampbell300> unicornjedi, try http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-apache2-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3 .... howtoforge.com is a good source for people that learn that way
[09:43] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: nope not aware of that
[09:43] <wafflejock> unicornjedi: basically you will setup a new sites-available file then use a2ensite to enable the new site (making a symbolic link in sites-enabled) then restart the server with sudo service apache2 restart
[09:44] <wafflejock> unicornjedi: but you should read up on it
[09:44] <jgcampbell300> unicornjedi,  you may want to go to howtoforge and search for just apache ... ispconfig can get complex if you let it
[09:44] <kiwi_> wilee-nilee, i understand ...
[09:45] <wafflejock> unicornjedi: get familiar with your /etc/apache2
[09:45] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: rygel looks promising. Thanks :D
[09:45] <unicornjedi> wafflejock, i got to my /sites-available and there are two files..
[09:45] <wafflejock> ripthejacker: sure thing... yeah I usually watch a lot of netflix and youtube so don't do much streaming and use XMBC for streaming off my NAS when I need it
[09:46] <wafflejock> XBMC always screw that up
[09:46] <pogiako1> i forgot my login in linux mint
[09:47] <DrGrov> Hello. How come in 13.10 the wallpaper for desktop and login screen are sometimes not being the same but some wallpapers set it correctly for both login and desktop?
[09:47] <pogiako1> how do i retrieve it?
[09:47] <pogiako1> 13.10 is still young ;)
[09:48] <wafflejock> holy cow it's late/early
[09:48] <wafflejock> gotta hit the hay g'night all
[09:49] <ripthejacker> wafflejock: thanks a lot friend :)
[09:49] <DrGrov> Is the wallpaper setter in 13.10 somehow acting on instinct and random acts of the Linux god? :P
[09:50] <kenny__> finally i made a fsck on reboot, rebooted my server and my free space is back, somone knows why ?
[09:50] <DrGrov> Apparently I seem to be the only one that has a minor issue with this
[09:52] <yogesh_> hi
[09:56] <solars> hey, does installing laptop mode tools on 13.10 still have a benefit?
[09:58] <dlackdkiwi> hello, it is possible to run console in window on 13.10? how?
[10:00] <duoi> dlackdkiwi: ctrl+T?
[10:00] <duoi> dlackdkiwi: sorry, that's ctrl+alt+t
[10:01] <dlackdkiwi> it's not working
[10:01] <dlackdkiwi> thanks
[10:07] <Zap-W> hi
[10:07] <rampage> hey all ! does anyone know what is the command to launch the "proprietary drivers" gui tool ? i can't find it !
[10:08] <Zap-W> has anyone experienced problems with dual boot win7 and ubuntu where wireless would fail to start when rebooting the computer from win7 to ubuntu, if I replugg the wireless to the usb port it starts working again
[10:08] <wilee-nilee> rampage, there is no  "proprietary drivers" gui tool Do you mean the additional drivers?
[10:08] <rampage> wilee-nilee: yes i think that's it
[10:09] <wilee-nilee> rampage, software-properties-gtk
[10:10] <rampage> yes wilee-nilee that's it ! thanks !!
[10:11] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[10:11] <varunendra> Zap-W, some chips support some advance power saving modes, which become 'bugs' in situations like this. Maybe window is sending the chip into 'suspend' mode before shutting down.
[10:12] <varunendra> *windows
[10:14] <Zap-W> varikonniemi: I see
[10:14] <uncreative> Can anyone offer some help to someone who wants to give ubuntu a try for the first time?
[10:14] <Zap-W> varikonniemi: so how do I revive the wireless chip during ubuntu boot without having to physically replug it to the usb port every time
[10:15] <wilee-nilee> uncreative, What problems are you having?
[10:16] <uncreative> I just want to know, after downloading ubuntu an installing what will happen to the files currently on my computer? Also do I need a cd to download and boot from?
[10:17] <varunendra> Zap-W, unfortunately, if it is indeed what I assumed (sleep mode) there is no other way except a power cycle to reset the chip. And power cycle on USB devices is only possible by physically disconnecting it.
[10:17] <wilee-nilee> uncreative, What is on the computer right now?
[10:18] <Zap-W> varunendra: then how come it works if I reboot into windows again? only not ubuntu
[10:18] <uncreative> Mostly just music files, and a few text documents nothing of real importance and I do believe I've already backed up everything onto an external ssd
[10:19] <Zap-W> then there must be a way
[10:20] <wilee-nilee> uncreative, Ubuntu would go in in a new partition in an unallocated space, so whatever is there is not effected if done correctly, yes you would use a cd or usb to install, you download a ISO to burn or load to the usb.
[10:21] <varunendra> Zap-W, it is a 'feature' that becomes a 'bug' only in some particular situations. The firmware receives the 'suspend' signla from window driver, and then it waits for the 'resume' signal from the same driver. Ubuntu or any other OS can resume it only if it uses the same driver which is practically not possible.
[10:21] <yogesh_> hi there
[10:22] <varunendra> Zap-W, besides, this is only one of many other possible reasons, just the most common one
[10:22] <yogesh_> any body know how to run .apk androied apps on ubuntu without using virtualbox or any vm
[10:22] <uncreative> Wilee-nilee, Ok I have a 16gb usb I will plug in and give it a try, are there applications that I should check out to enhance my experience after booting up ubuntu?
[10:23] <wilee-nilee> yogesh_ You need android to run those I believe.
[10:23] <yogesh_> can all androied apps can run in wine like utility like it runs windows apps
[10:23] <cfhowlett> yogesh_, android isn't linux, linux isn't android.  get the android sdk for linux
[10:23] <Zap-W> varunendra: what are the other reasons? then maybe I can disable this feature in windows when rebooting
[10:23] <wilee-nilee> yogesh_ Never heard of any android apps running in wine.
[10:24] <yogesh_> ok
[10:24] <wilee-nilee> uncreative, It is a full operating system, some install the ubuntu-restricted-extras to get flash and codecs for media.
[10:25] <varikonniemi> Zap-W, you highlight the wrong nick
[10:25] <varunendra> Zap-W, when you reboot into Ubuntu (from Windows), have you checked "rfkill list" ? Does it show the adapter as "Hard blocked"?
[10:25] <wilee-nilee> uncreative, Feel free to ask questions in any area here if needed. ;)
[10:26] <uncreative> Wilee-Nilee thank you very much for taking the time to answer my question. I'll be giving this os a try.
[10:27] <uncreative> questions*
[10:27] <wilee-nilee> uncreative, Cool, enjoy. ;)
[10:27] <Ben64> uncreative: it will run slow from usb or cd, don't think thats how it will be when installed :)
[10:28] <Zap-W_> varunendra: going to try that now
[10:29] <Zap-W_> brb
[10:29] <uncreative> Ben64, I'm not worried about the speed of the install, I'm a man with plenty of time for something that may be better than what I'm currently using. Thanks for the heads up though, I'll make a sandwich.
[10:29] <mrafiq> i always face deadjam using chrome after some time it runs fine.
[10:30] <Ben64> uncreative: i meant if you're going to be testing it out from the cd/usb, since it can run from there
[10:30] <mrafiq> it happens every time whenever i reboot my pc
[10:30] <uncreative> Ben64, OH okay. Still thanks though.
[10:30] <mrafiq> it hangs out during browsing of facebook page
[10:33] <cfhowlett> mrafiq, only on Facebook?  could it be blocked by government in your location?