[08:06] <TraceGreen> Hello, "locale is not support by Xlib, locale set to C", how shall i fix it?
[08:06] <Shrike> linux_galore: Cheers, I'll try looking for that.
[08:06] <linux_galore> Shrike: Ive used it in gnome though
[08:07] <Shrike> linux_galore: Good, thats what I'm using
[08:07] <intelikey> hehhe  i did a   touch /lib/modules/initramfs-2.6.15-20-386     and  apt-get install -f     i think it's installing now.
[08:07] <intelikey> it did.....
[08:09] <nesa> password
[08:10] <Shrike> linux_galore: Apparently this is it: http://linux.mikeasoft.com/pyrandr.php
[08:10] <blu3_c> hallo
[08:11] <blu3_c> hi room
[08:11] <intelikey> why should this keep x from running     Error opening /dev/wacom : No such file or directory    ?
[08:11] <intelikey> would someone do a   ls -l /dev/wacom     and  post it for me please ?
[08:13] <blu3_c> i've download dapper 'n i burned it, but it seems the file boot is error. is there a way to install dapper without boot from cd
[08:13] <Flannel> blu3_c: what's the error?
[08:14] <intelikey> blu3_c why do you want a broken system ?    but if you have ubuntu installed you can upgrade to dapper
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> blu3_c, Could you explain what the error was?  Probably a bad burn.
[08:14] <blu3_c> well, the cd cannot boot
[08:14] <Flannel> blu3_c: whys that? does it give you an error? or what?
[08:14] <luke> Dapper is pretty cool, but the interface is MUCH slower
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> blu3_c, Did you burn as a CD image instead of just a file?
[08:14] <intelikey> does it attempt to boot and fail   or not try ?
[08:14] <Flannel> intelikey: do you have a tablet?
[08:14] <Flannel> luke: what are you talking about?
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> luke, What?
[08:15] <blu3_c> yes i burn an image
[08:15] <intelikey> tablet ?
[08:15] <luke> Flannel tonyyarusso,  I find Gnome to be a fair bit slower
[08:15] <Flannel> intelikey: a wacom tablet?
[08:15] <blu3_c> maybe i should try to burn it again, isn' it?
[08:15] <intelikey> Flannel no.
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> luke, That's odd, b/c the opposite is true in various benchmarking tests.
[08:15] <Flannel> intelikey: well, for some reason it's looking for one.  that's what the wacom is.
[08:15] <luke> wierd
[08:16] <Flannel> blu3_c: what's the error it gives you?
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> blu3_c, What is the error?
[08:16] <holycow> luke, there is a psychological aspect to 'it feels fast' as well
[08:16] <intelikey> Flannel ok.    there sure a lot of bugs and querks in dapper.
[08:16] <holycow> there is something about what qt does to draw windows that feels faster i think, i am not certain that it is actually faster
[08:16] <Flannel> intelikey: it's beta, what do you expect?  Oh, this is dapper? ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:16] <luke> holycow, what do u mean?
[08:17] <blu3_c> first, i start my computer, then i insert the dapper cd
[08:17] <blu3_c> then the computer say: cannot boot from the cd, press any key
[08:17] <UKMatt> blu3_c, the image was probably burned wrong
[08:18] <intelikey> Flannel lol  ub plus one was silent all the time i asked in there....  :)     and i expect it to be hosed.   it's pre-release still.  in fact i expect it to still have bugs after it's released.
[08:18] <holycow> luke, you can trick the eye in lots of ways.  for example, instead of blitting a whole pulldown menu, one can stage it so that the outline comes in first, then blit the bcgrnd then icons ... etc.  one wouldn't do this of course, but qt definately draws everything diffferently from gnome at least to my eyes
[08:18] <UKMatt> blu3_c, either the file you downloaded was corrupted, or the .ico was burned wrong
[08:18] <holycow> luke, the human mind is an imprecise device, its very easy to fool, its a question of actually working out how to tho
[08:18] <luke> holycow, haha true I guess
[08:18] <Flannel> intelikey: I just got back, anyway.. I don't know.  Check launchpad to see if its a known bug, if not, report it.
[08:19] <blu3_c> UKMatt, sorry what is ".ico was burned wrong"
[08:19] <Fracture> anyone know how to fix this ""i486-linux-gnu-g++: Internal error: Segmentation fault (program cc1plus)"
[08:19] <Flannel> blu3_c: he meant iso.  check your md5sum of your iso, and burn it at a slower speed
[08:19] <holycow> there are also optical features of our eyes that are completely weird.  for example we never actually see the WHOLE image.  you can pickup a psych 101 book anywhere and perform tests
[08:19] <UKMatt> blu3_c, when you made the boot CD, how did you do it?
[08:19] <intelikey> Flannel i'm not registered.
[08:19] <holycow> you actually see something like 1/18 of an image slice at a time
[08:19] <UKMatt> blu3_c, yeah .iso like Flannel said sorry
[08:19] <Flannel> intelikey: so.. register.  You can still search without registering.
[08:19] <blu3_c> how do check md5sum for my iso
[08:19] <intelikey> no
[08:20] <holycow> strangely ... there is also a dead spot to the bottom right of your eye ... something can actually be right in front of you (the right size of course) and you can't see it
[08:20] <holycow> and so on
[08:20] <Flannel> no? psh, that's a rather poor attitude to take.
[08:20] <soliac> Hello!  Does anyone here have any experience with Ubuntu on Dell laptops? specific model: Inspiron 5160
[08:20] <holycow> basically someone hacked us together in a very sloppy mannger
[08:20] <holycow> god is a terrible hacker
[08:20] <Flannel> holycow: actually, it's right in the center of each eye, where the optical nerve leaves.
[08:20] <cafuego> Only with a Latitude CPtS 500.
[08:21] <holycow> *ding* what flannel said
[08:21] <holycow> :)
[08:21] <cafuego> They run it, but very s l o w l y
[08:21] <intelikey> Flannel i only register with things i like.   that kinda leaves ubuntu out...   :)
[08:21] <holycow>  in fact i expect it to still have bugs after it's released.  <-- as opposed to what?
[08:22] <holycow> say for example software of a company that has 30 billion in cash in the bank maybe?
[08:22] <holycow> or do you mean as opposed to some jerkass comparison you just made up?
[08:22] <soliac> I tried to install Ubuntu on my inspiron 5160 but it wouldn't install the bootloader
[08:22] <Flannel> holycow: who cares what he says, he's acting immature regarding bugs, not worth my time.
[08:23] <holycow> Flannel, indeed
[08:23] <intelikey> holycow it means exactly what i said.   there is no   repete  NO  comparison.    if you want to compare it to something  go ahead.   but leave me out of it.
[08:23] <holycow> lol
[08:23] <holycow> your a retard
[08:24] <Madpilot> !coc
[08:24] <ubotu> hmm... coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:24] <intelikey> could be.
[08:24] <Madpilot> *cough*
[08:24] <holycow> :)
[08:25] <intelikey> be back later maybe.... storm rolling in atm.
[08:26] <Flannel> heh, he's running as root?
[08:29] <holycow> Flannel, i bet his password is something like 'flannel' or 'password'
[08:29] <andrej> Hi Gents, where can I find a repo that has xdtv that's installable on breezy 5.10?  I've added deb http://spello.sscnet.ucla.edu/marillat/dists/sid/main/binary-amd64 ./
[08:30] <andrej> But it fails to install xdtv from there with these messages
[08:30] <andrej> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:30] <andrej>   xdtv: Depends: libasound2 (> 1.0.10) but 1.0.9-2 is to be installed
[08:30] <andrej>         Depends: libavcodeccvs51 (>= 3:20060305) but it is not going to be installed
[08:30] <andrej>         Depends: libavutilcvs49 (>= 3:20060305) but it is not going to be installed
[08:30] <andrej>         Depends: libogg0 (>= 1.1.3) but 1.1.2-1 is to be installed
[08:30] <andrej>         Depends: libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.2) but 1.1.0-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[08:30] <andrej>         Depends: libvorbisenc2 (>= 1.1.2) but 1.1.0-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[08:30] <andrej> E: Broken packages
[08:30] <andrej> How do I resolve that?
[08:30] <Flannel> andrej: usually mixing debian and ubuntu packages results in problems.
[08:31] <holycow> andrej, you can't really without finding  properlycompiled versions of those libraries forubuntu
[08:31] <andrej> Thanks Flannel  ... do you know of "pure" ubuntu packages for xdtv?
[08:31] <holycow> you can perhaps try looking at the online package listings and see if those libraries are in dapper
[08:32] <Flannel> andrej: nope.  Not in breezy at least.  might be in dapper, you can look at packages.ubuntu.com
[08:32] <andrej> K
[08:32] <Madpilot> !info xdtv dapper
[08:32] <Madpilot> nope
[08:34] <andrej> Bummer.
[08:35] <andrej> Or maybe a WORKING Mythv (not broken bits with three differen versions) of MythTV (for AMD64)?
[08:35] <andrej> errh
[08:35] <andrej> Was that still understandable?
[08:35] <holycow> actually setting up myth on ubuntu breezy is simple
[08:35] <holycow> there are some great step by step tutorials out there
[08:36] <holycow> i've set it up, its not hard, but i hate tv so dismanteled the project
[08:36] <andrej> I've seen some that reference sources that I can't find .
[08:37] <andrej> BUt back at my dependcy problem with the AMD64 debian packages for xdtv ... is there some way of resolving those?
[08:37] <er4z0r> re
[08:38] <holycow> andrej, only way really is to grab sources and start compiling
[08:39] <holycow> those error messages mean the required libraries don't exist
[08:39] <holycow> thus
[08:39] <holycow> there is nothing to resolve
[08:39] <holycow> you haveto build it
[08:39] <andrej> *sigh* :)
[08:39] <luke> at the moment in my "services" window, I have klogd, sysklogd, cron, atd and anacron all starting up each boot. is this really necessary?
[08:40] <andrej> you can probably do without the cron, atd and anacron if you wont schedule anything ever ...
[08:40] <ic56> has anyone installed ubuntu on a drive with bad sectors?  How do I tell the installer to run badblocks when creating the filesystems?
[08:40] <andrej> But they're all low overhead, and won't heard
[08:40] <andrej> hurt
[08:40] <andrej> *sigh*
[08:41] <andrej> you NEED klogd and syslogd
[08:41] <paloyme> how do you share files and folders between an xp and a linux?
[08:41] <luke> ok ty
[08:41] <Flannel> paloyme: samba
[08:41] <andrej> http://www.samba.org for info on windows file-sharing
[08:41] <bimberi> !tell paloyme about samba
[08:41] <andrej> too late :P
[08:42] <paloyme> thanks all
[08:42] <[nige] > anyone got any experriance with bind?
[08:42] <andrej> Hello again nigel ;)
[08:43] <[nige] > hi andrej
[08:43] <andrej> It appears that the isc dhcpcd CAN update bind dynamically
[08:43] <andrej> I didn't know that
[08:43] <[nige] > apprently it will allow dynmic updates :)
[08:43] <andrej> I looked it up yesteerday
[08:43] <[nige] > I knew it could do it,k I just dont know how
[08:43] <[nige] > I think i have it setup almost right
[08:43] <Sirrush> Hey everyone
[08:44] <andrej> NigelS: i don't think that this is the right forum for you, though ... try to find something more networkish :}
[08:44] <holycow> with people with more experience
[08:44] <holycow> ubuntu is very noob centric
[08:44] <[nige] > lol okay
[08:45] <Sirrush> Everyone has to start out somewhere Ubuntu is a good starting point
[08:45] <[nige] > trying under #networking now :
[08:45] <[nige] > :)
[08:45] <andrej> Sirrush : that'
[08:45] <andrej> s a matter of taste and opinion ;}
[08:46] <Sirrush> True .. I've moved a few windows users to linux usually with the simple distros
[08:46] <holycow> ubuntu is an excellent starting point indeed
[08:46] <paloyme> ok, i was able to install wine and configure it using sidetool, or something like that, and i got IE, how do i use IE now? where can i find it? please help, thanks
[08:47] <Sirrush> I used Ubuntu since 5.04 before that I was using slackware.. redhat .. and freebsd ( some solaris) aswell
[08:47] <Cheerios> Hey all
[08:47] <Sirrush> Hi Cheerios
[08:48] <Cheerios> Question: How do I specify which user a daemon runs as (I'm trying to get exim to run as 'mail' instead of 'Debian-exim')
[08:48] <Cheerios> Hey Sirrush
[08:48] <holycow> paloyme, it never occured to me to try and run something as crappy as ie on linux ... so i can't help unfortunately, i would tell ya if i knew.  i'm curious what your reason for running it on linux might be?
[08:49] <paloyme> i need to browse a sight that only accepts ie holycow
[08:49] <paloyme> unfortunately
[08:49] <holycow> you can masquarade as ie via fox ... are we talking about activex?
[08:49] <_Rappy_> hi all! I got a domain on a server, which is only avaliabe locally (within the local network). Now I can't remember which file I have to edit to make it public avaliable on the internet
[08:49] <Sirrush> wow ... yeah I was thinking about making the browser lie as to what it really is
[08:50] <holycow> yeah there is an extension for that
[08:50] <n3uron> hey
[08:50] <n3uron> how can i update the nvidia-glx drivers?
[08:50] <paloyme> holycow, i dont know if its activex, can you check it for me? http://www.eritesting.com/q/perception.dll?login=ERI
[08:50] <holycow> n3uron, depends how  you installed them.  how did you install them?
[08:50] <n3uron> with synaptic
[08:50] <sifl_> what's a good app to get to ftp files to your web space
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> !ftp
[08:51] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[08:51] <holycow> n3uron, no you are upgrading why? the synaptic installed drivers don't work?
[08:51] <holycow> paloyme, sec gotta find that extension
[08:52] <n3uron> holycow, i installed wine to play WoW
[08:52] <n3uron> but it crashes when i try enthering a building
[08:52] <hajuu> n3uron, try cedega
[08:52] <hajuu> WoW works with that
[08:52] <n3uron> i applied some patches, it  doesnt crash anymore, but the screen keeps flickering
[08:53] <n3uron> hajuu, is cedega free?
[08:53] <sifl_> i just ran apt-get install ah and now i have the auction house
[08:53] <hajuu> lol no
[08:53] <n3uron> i knew that, i dont have a credit card to buy it..
[08:53] <n3uron> thats why i installed wine
[08:55] <n3uron> holycow, is there any way of upgrading the nvidia driver?
[08:55] <Flannel> n3uron: is there a newer version somewhere?
[08:56] <hajuu> No there is no way to update it.
[08:56] <hajuu> its impossible
[08:56] <hajuu> ....
[08:56] <n3uron> hajuu, someone said i need the kernel sources
[08:57] <n3uron> where can i get those? or do i need to compile the kernel myself?
[08:57] <paloyme> what does it mean when it says, "couldn't display home/user01/desktop/Internet Explorer.lnk
[08:57] <hajuu> theres a thing about it on the official page
[08:57] <holycow> n3uron, not from the repo, you would need to uninstall it
[08:57] <hajuu> or the wiki
[08:57] <holycow> n3uron, then download the nvidia installer and run that
[08:57] <holycow> or
[08:58] <n3uron> does that upgrade the glx?
[08:58] <holycow> downlaod nvidia binary package, and find the howto on how to convert it to a .deb so thatyou don't bypas the packaging system
[08:58] <holycow> n3uron, not sure, i presume everything you would need
[08:58] <Flannel> it's called alien
[08:58] <ice_1963> :)
[08:59] <holycow> alien doesn't convert binaries bro
[08:59] <holycow> just package conversion, and really mostly on packages with similar targets
[08:59] <n3uron> !alien
[08:59] <ubotu> alien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[08:59] <Flannel> eh? I could swear Ive converted a bin before
[08:59] <holycow> if so let me know how :)
[08:59] <ice_1963> fakeroot
[08:59] <paloyme> how do i check my wine version?
[09:00] <bimberi> paloyme: wine --version
[09:00] <holycow> ah you know what, i can't find the extension for ffox to mask it as ie6, dude your going to haveto find that your self
[09:00] <holycow> sorry
[09:00] <paloyme> tenks
[09:01] <paloyme> my version say 0.9.12, is that new?
[09:02] <paloyme> my wine version is 0.9.12, is that the newest version?
[09:03] <Chousuke> www.winehq.org
[09:03] <Chousuke> :P
[09:03] <paloyme> there's a guide here at sidenet that says, please use wine 200407, is that a version?
[09:04] <Chousuke> that's an old version
[09:04] <Chousuke> when wine still had only CVS snapshot releases.
[09:04] <paloyme> aaa ok
[09:06] <Plitskin> hi guys, is there a whois kind of thing in Gaim?
[09:09] <Sirrush> Plitskin,  what kind of info are you trying to find out ?
[09:09] <Plitskin> Sirrush: The IP of the person I'm chatting with
[09:10] <Sirrush> Ahh ok
[09:10] <Plitskin> Sirrush: Or at least the service provider
[09:10] <squeaka1> o
[09:10] <squeaka1> hello
[09:10] <Sirrush> open a Terminal window and you can do a netstat -n
[09:10] <holycow> wow
[09:10] <holycow> this mini pc's are wicked
[09:10] <jml> do I still need to create umask wrapper scripts around svn binaries on a dapper install?
[09:10] <Sirrush> helps if they just sent you a message aswell
[09:10] <squeaka1>  ath
[09:10] <squeaka1> wath
[09:10] <holycow> so this is what its like to have a silent system
[09:10] <holycow> neato
[09:11] <Plitskin> Sirrush: That's cool, thanks a lot :D
[09:11] <squeaka1> hein
[09:11] <squeaka1> what
[09:11] <squeaka1> my fursnam
[09:11] <Sirrush> Plitskin,  try it you might have to eliminate say MSN's IP, then IRC then a few others but you should be able to get that persons IP
[09:11] <river> can anyone help me sort our Shockwave plugin on firefox 1.5 in Ubuntu ?
[09:12] <squeaka1> tes ki toi
[09:12] <squeaka1> tes i toi
[09:12] <Plitskin> yes, I'll try that. Thanks ;)
[09:12] <squeaka1> tes ki toiiiii
[09:12] <squeaka1> ok tu tappelle dookie
[09:12] <dhaval> hello there
[09:12] <dhaval> how do ya all do here ???
[09:13] <ailean> !fr
[09:13] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:13] <dookie> hi there
[09:14] <river> can anyone help with t plugin issue please ?
[09:14] <ailean> what's the problem river?
[09:15] <Sp4rKy> hi
[09:15] <Sp4rKy> does anyone use initNG ?
[09:15] <dookie> a little question... after installing kubuntu on a ubuntu-gnome-system, i cant use gnome anymore.. :-(
[09:15] <dookie> what could i do?
[09:15] <river> ailean: cannot get ubuntu / firefox to play games requiring flash / shockwave plugins
[09:15] <Sp4rKy> i'm trying to use it and i've some errors with network (can't start) , it looking for ifupdown :/
[09:15] <river> i have installed it via synaptic
[09:15] <river> and put in a symlink
[09:16] <ailean> river, I'm having probs myself with flash 8, but lower than that is installed
[09:16] <river> it shows in about plugins but the games still won't run
[09:16] <ailean> river, however, it doesn't recognise keystrokes so games can't be played :)
[09:16] <ciplogic> I use Ubuntu Dapper (6.06) and when I set up another keyboard layout I've got next errors:
[09:16] <ciplogic> Eroare la activarea configurrilor XKB.
[09:16] <ciplogic> Aceasta se poate ntmpla n diverse situaii:
[09:16] <ciplogic> - o problem n biblioteca libxklavier
[09:16] <ciplogic> - o problem n serverul X (utilitarele xkbcomp, xmodmap)
[09:16] <ciplogic> - serverul X are o implementare de libxkbfile incompatibil
[09:16] <ailean> river, could be my problem
[09:16] <ciplogic> Translated into english: Error on setup XKB
[09:17] <ciplogic> That problem may appera in next cases:
[09:17] <river> ailean: hmm .. any ideas on how to get around .. my prob is it just wants me to install a plugin, but it is already there
[09:17] <Plitskin> uhmmm... another question... what's the equivalent of tracert of windows in linux?
[09:17] <river> have I used the correct symlink ?
[09:17] <ice_1963> ailean: flashplayer 8 for linux?
[09:17] <ailean> ice_1963, yep
[09:18] <ailean> ice_1963, you have it working?
[09:18] <ciplogic> - a problem in library libxklavier
[09:18] <ciplogic> - a problem of X server (tools: xkbcomp, xmodmap)
[09:18] <ciplogic> - X server has a incompatible libxkbfile implementation
[09:18] <ice_1963> no
[09:18] <ailean> ice_1963, i have 7
[09:18] <ciplogic> Any idea how do I setup another keyboard layout in Ubuntu Dapper?
[09:18] <ice_1963> were can i get it ?
[09:18] <river> ailean: i have only installed 7 .25
[09:18] <river> ailean: 7.0.25 i believe
[09:18] <ailean> ciplogic, there is an option through System, Preferences
[09:19] <ailean> ciplogic, the gui takes care of it
[09:19] <ciplogic> I get that error from thare
[09:19] <ciplogic> *there
[09:19] <ciplogic> ailean: System->Preferences->Keyboard
[09:19] <ailean> ciplogic, yes
[09:19] <ciplogic> But I get error from there
[09:19] <ailean> ice_1963, where can you get 8? I don't think you can yet
[09:20] <ailean> ciplogic, sorry, can't help you in that case. ask again later and hopefully someone who can will be on
[09:20] <ciplogic> My question is: if doesn't work to setup the layout what means to me?
[09:20] <ciplogic> Thank in advance then ;)
[09:20] <ailean> :)
[09:21] <ice_1963> ailean: ok ya i have 7 ...not installed lol
[09:21] <ailean> heh
[09:21] <ailean> yeah these things are a pain, no?
[09:21] <GueVaRa> Q: i did "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", enabled more screen size. but the new size settings didnt show...do i need to be root or reboot??
[09:22] <ailean> all i want is firefox to behave as it does in windows, handling all the plug-ins on the way
[09:23] <steel> what would i change in the config to allow anonymous users to login wtihout a password in proftpd??
[09:23] <moox> hi there. I have want to create a .deb which just copy files into a directory. There is no compliation needed (can't use checkinstall) and I really have no idea how to do it easily !
[09:24] <river> ailean: I figured it out .. FYI, SHockwave is not available for Linux
[09:24] <river> ailean: thanks for your help
[09:24] <ailean> oh
[09:24] <ailean> thanks river
[09:24] <ice_1963> ailean: install java flash realplayer and your on your way .....
[09:24] <FilipinoDXB> guys, how can i delete the temporary internet files in mozilla firefox? i believe in IE there's an option for this.
[09:27] <FilipinoDXB> what does "foo" means?
[09:28] <ice_1963> ctol+h
[09:28] <ketsugi> not much
[09:29] <fabio> hello guyst
[09:29] <skpl> can someone help me? my souns system appears to have crashed and is making whiney noises at me
[09:29] <fabio> I have a little problem with Dapper beta livecd
[09:29] <skpl> i was playing music ni banshee when it just started making noise at me
[09:29] <zx8> how would i make a package with all dependancies for xmaxima , on arm archi
[09:29] <fabio> anyone else experienced jerky movement with an usb mouse on a laptop?
[09:30] <fabio> it's strange, since the integrated synaptic mouse works perfectly
[09:30] <axisme> fabio, never :-)
[09:30] <ketsugi> FilipinoDXB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar
[09:30] <axisme> infact im using one right now..
[09:31] <badr> Someone told me to replace all the "breezy"s in my /etc/apt/sources.list with "dapper". is that a good idea?
[09:31] <zx8> how would i make a package with all dependancies for xmaxima , for a linux pda thats arm architecture?
[09:31] <FilipinoDXB> ty
[09:31] <axisme> it is if you want to upgrade to dapper
[09:32] <badr> axisme: will it break things?
[09:32] <axisme> well dapper isnt stable
[09:32] <axisme> but i use it
[09:32] <skpl> can someone help me? my esd appears to be broken
[09:33] <skpl> when i try to play music all i get is static
[09:33] <skpl> and my speakers are whining at me
[09:33] <tam> hi all, can anyone tell me where i'd be able to find standard breezy repos? the ones i have for some reason are timing out. (and my net work is totall fine as i can connect/download other stuff with no problems)
[09:33] <cafuego> !repos
[09:33] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:33] <GreySim> Slap those speakers and tell them if they don't shut up, you'll put them up for adoption.
[09:33] <tam> cafuego: cool. ta.
[09:34] <skpl> i got this error when i tried to start esd again ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[09:36] <ice_1963> skpl: try alsaconf
[09:37] <skpl> bash: alsaconf: command not found
[09:37] <skpl> i do not wish to restart my computer, is there some way i can find out why i am having this problem?
[09:38] <ice_1963> do you have alsa-utils installed?
[09:38] <ailean> skpl, you can restart the sound card, or even gdm
[09:38] <ailean> i get that prob all the time on windows, skpl but never on ubuntu
[09:39] <ailean> bye then . . .
[09:41] <l_r> hello
[09:41] <l_r> when will ubuntu-stable be ready?
[09:41] <ice_1963> well if you have alsa-base and alsa-utils installed you can do alsaconf :)
[09:42] <Madpilot> l_r, there's a stable release right now - 5.10. The new release - 6.06 - will be released as stable June 1st
[09:43] <manuvcube> has somebody rosegarden4 running on 6.06 PowerPC?? it seems i cant load  error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.15-21-powerpc/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq-midi.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module
[09:43] <manuvcube> which results in not loading jackd corretcly
[09:43] <HarePanda> anybody know of an X pdf viewer that goes the extra mile?
[09:43] <manuvcube> which leads to rosegarden not starting sequencer (obviously)
[09:45] <skpl> how do i restart my sound card?
[09:46] <manuvcube> sorry, jackd starts, but /dev/sound/seq is not available
[09:47] <lun4tic> hi
[09:47] <skpl> can someone tell me why my sound system has puked? it just started making static while i was playing music in banshee
[09:47] <skpl> is there a way to restart the sound card?
[09:48] <lun4tic> which programm does ubuntu use to automatically recognize usb drives (sticks, external hard disks,...)
[09:48] <polpak> lun4tic, it uses hotplug
[09:48] <lun4tic> yeah but hotplug allone does do nothing
[09:48] <lun4tic> i mean this popup
[09:48] <lun4tic> and all
[09:49] <polpak> skpl, you can rmmod the sound modules, then modprobe them again.. that's my best suggestion
[09:49] <skpl> how3 do i do that?
[09:49] <lun4tic> if i connect a usb drive on other distributions (i.e. debian) nothing happens except if i mount it by hand
[09:49] <polpak> lun4tic, nautilus is the file browser
[09:49] <lun4tic> kubuntu the same thing
[09:50] <lun4tic> there must be some kind of daemon that listens fr usb devices and asks the user if something is connected what to do or isn't it ?
[09:50] <liquidindian> While we're on the subject of hotplug, is there any advantage/disadvantage to having my usb drive simply recognised by that rather than in fstab?
[09:52] <lun4tic> http://ivman.sourceforge.net/ <--- found something ^^
[09:53] <lun4tic> i think that's what i meant ^^
[09:53] <skpl> can someone tell me why my speakers are spitting out static instead of sounds?
[09:53] <liquidindian> I had a line in fstab, but the mount point tended to "jump around" from mnt to media...
[09:53] <skpl> when i ran esd instaed of the usual soundtest, i just get static
 skpl, you can rmmod the sound modules, then modprobe them again.. that's my best suggestion
[09:53] <skpl> polpak, how do i do that?
[09:55] <kingspawn> polpak: still in here? heh. I went to sleep and got up again, and you're still going strong
[09:56] <ron_> #help
[09:58] <Sp4rKy> does anyone know if exists driver for MSI US54G wifi card (on usb)
[09:58] <Sp4rKy> ?
[10:00] <me2win> !ndiswrapper
[10:00] <ubotu> from memory, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[10:02] <Jimmey__> When Dapper's released, will this become the support channel for Dapper?
[10:02] <kingspawn> Jimmey__: Yes
[10:03] <Jimmey__> Then what for the ubuntu+1? Edgey Eft discussion?
[10:06] <Madpilot> Jimmey__, guess so
[10:06] <Madpilot> for people who have Eft'd up their computers :P
[10:07] <Jimmey__> XoD
[10:09] <bobslaede> jebus christ, why cant I remember the command to get the size of a dir?
[10:09] <bobslaede> like df, but not
[10:09] <cyrilc> hello #ubuntu
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> bobslaede, du
[10:11] <bobslaede> oh yeah :D
[10:11] <cyrilc> does someone can help me. I can just acces to the website google
[10:11] <bobslaede> thanks
[10:12] <skpl> can someone tell me why my speakers might suddenly start spitting out staic instead of sounds?
[10:12] <skpl> not that static isnt a sound, but it is undesirable
[10:13] <sufa> anyone ever have firefox or anything dissappear when you minimise it in gnome?
[10:13] <sufa> im using 5.10 and flux with gnome
[10:14] <fianno> ciao
[10:14] <skpl> sufa, it has happened to me wit nautilus, i think it is just a bug
[10:17] <ailean> fianno
[10:17] <ailean> !it
[10:17] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:17] <ailean> otherwise, ciao :)
[10:19] <Madpilot> Anyone here use Nautilus for FTP and find that it freezes a lot when doing actual ftp transfers?
[10:21] <sufa> skpl, you use flux and gnome?
[10:21] <skpl> no
[10:22] <skpl> can someone tell me why my speakers might suddenly start spitting out staic instead of sounds?
[10:22] <skpl> or how to fix this
[10:22] <sufa> skpl,  what are you trying to do when it does that?
[10:22] <sufa> watching a movie or listening to music?
[10:23] <skpl> i was playing music with banshee and it started making static at me
[10:24] <Chameleon22> is there a file like on RH based systems that executes everytime a machine boots?
[10:25] <EruditeHermit> hey, can I ask a question concerning a debian box in here? #debian didn't know how to fix it
[10:25] <EruditeHermit> maybe someone here might have some idea?
[10:27] <axisme> ask
[10:27] <EruditeHermit> I tried to upgrade libc6 and I get http://rafb.net/paste/results/Smqfk564.html
[10:28] <EruditeHermit> now, I can downgrade back to 2.3.6-5 and it works, but anything newer and it doesn't upgrade
[10:28] <skpl> i hate this channel
[10:28] <skpl> ..
[10:29] <EruditeHermit> I even booted a knoppix CD and chrooted and installed it that way, but now I get messages like "unable to open libm.so.6" when I try to run any command
[10:29] <EruditeHermit> and it fails to run the command
[10:29] <EruditeHermit> i.e. when I try to login
[10:32] <kingspawn> skpl: then you better leave
[10:33] <Delgul_at_work> hmm... anyone know if the ubuntu install procedure generates a new initramfs image? I have the feeling it does. How does it include the correct modules for the system?
[10:33] <axisme> no idea, erudite
[10:34] <EruditeHermit> axisme: it seems to be unable to open any shared object file
[10:34] <axisme> erm permissions? at a guess
[10:34] <axisme> a wild guess at that
[10:34] <EruditeHermit> permissions to all the shared object files on my machine?
[10:34] <EruditeHermit> lol
[10:34] <axisme> never seen that error before
[10:35] <EruditeHermit> also I ran ldconfig again
[10:35] <EruditeHermit> it doesn't help
[10:35] <EruditeHermit> I have another box that upgraded fine
[10:35] <EruditeHermit> this one doesn't want to though
[10:36] <massy> hi all
[10:36] <smart> hi
[10:36] <EruditeHermit> axisme: is there anywhere I can go to get help for this?
[10:37] <EruditeHermit> axisme: I already tried the mailinglists and IRC
[10:37] <smart> the people here are all chinse?
[10:37] <massy> is anyone here able to use/create an exploit?
[10:37] <massy> I'm italian, proud to be :D
[10:37] <smart> Eur..
[10:37] <mattfletcher> where can i find a guide on making a custom install disc? i want to make a disc with all the software i need for deployment on 10 machines
[10:38] <smart> can i ask a question?
[10:38] <massy> try
[10:38] <smart> why my command g++ can t run..
[10:39] <axisme> erudite, i would recommend putting bits of the error into google
[10:39] <massy> gcc ?
[10:39] <axisme> and reading whatever comes up
[10:39] <massy> # apt-get install build-essential
[10:39] <smart> yep.
[10:39] <smart> but i dont know how to make it ..
[10:39] <massy> gcc <inputfile.c> -o <outputfile>
[10:40] <smart> before install the ubuntu I always use the window system.
[10:41] <massy> never used/had window system
[10:41] <smart> why?
[10:41] <massy> prefer the input line
[10:41] <EruditeHermit> axisme: I've not been able to find anything in a week
[10:41] <axisme> :-(
[10:42] <axisme> all i found was http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/1999/04/msg00048.html
[10:42] <axisme> tried forum posts?
[10:43] <smart> but i think windows sys work easily. do u believe it ?
[10:43] <massy> I don't think so
[10:43] <smart> i think its hard to learn linux ..
[10:43] <EruditeHermit> axisme: I tried the mailinglist
[10:43] <isam> I want to set a local mirror for ubuntu apt repos .. what I am stuck with now is mirroring ubuntu apt repos with ONLY the i386 and all files..
[10:44] <isam> I mean _all
[10:44] <EruditeHermit> axisme: I found that the system works in single user mode
[10:44] <lun4tic> cana anyone send me his (K)ubunu "ivman" configs ?
[10:44] <massy> very hard, smart but GNU/Linux is almost a perfect system
[10:44] <EruditeHermit> axisme: its just when it switches to runlevel 2 that it has issues
[10:44] <isam> any idea how to copy/rsync/mirror only the i385 and the _all deb packages ?
[10:44] <axisme> hmm i do know a few people good with debian
[10:44] <axisme> one second
[10:44] <massy> instead of Windows, which makes an imperfect use of the APIs
[10:45] <smart> can u take a example for me , maybe u are right..
[10:46] <jerusalem> got a question for ya'l
[10:46] <massy> it's not easy to give example about the superiority of GNU/Linux
[10:46] <jerusalem> sometimes my totem goes to a blue screen
[10:46] <massy> you'd better try it
[10:46] <jerusalem> and i can only get video back by rebooting
[10:47] <jerusalem> there has to be a better way...
[10:47] <jerusalem> anyone?
[10:47] <smart> o_0~~ but thanks at all
[10:47] <ompaul> jerusalem, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:48] <smart> but the most problem is ,where i can learn it .
[10:48] <mrmist> Hi all
[10:49] <ompaul> smart, have you got Ubuntu installed or on a live cd?
[10:49] <smart> can u support me a internet place.
[10:49] <jerusalem> breezy
[10:49] <jerusalem> ompaul
[10:49] <mrmist> can someone please give me a good reason why MySQL hasn't been made part of Breezy ?
[10:49] <smart> of course got installed.
[10:49] <ompaul> mrmist, it is - you just have to install it
[10:49] <smart> with a disc
[10:50] <mrmist> ompaul: No it's not. It's not in tha package system. I'd have to install it, and it's a lot to take care of for a noob
[10:50] <ompaul> smart, on the top panel on the desktop there is a little red and white symbol start with it there is a lot of information there - a book and more stuff
[10:50] <mrmist> ompaul: Of course I know how to compile... I've done it. But it's a lot to coonfigure to just, say, make it start ut when booting the system
[10:50] <ompaul> jerusalem, what kind of thing are you trying to watch with it?
[10:51] <smart> see it ..
[10:52] <ompaul> mrmist, apt-cache search mysql on the command line
[10:52] <bliss1_> hello!
[10:52] <smart> thanks  I 'll watch it carefully.
[10:52] <ketsugi> Any recommendations for an sfv maker/checker?
[10:52] <Madpilot> !tell mrmist about lamp
[10:53] <Madpilot> mrmist, mysql is easy to install in Breezy...
[10:53] <jerusalem> .wmv ompaul
[10:53] <bliss1_> friend gave me a copy of vmware  workstation with a licence I am wondering this may be better than the qemu+kqemu i have installed,?
[10:53] <jerusalem> sorry, i'm googling for the same thing right now also
[10:53] <jerusalem> multi tasking
[10:54] <mrmist> Madpilot: MYSQL 5.0 can still only be installed by compiling.
[10:54] <mwe> bliss1_: it is _way_ better for me
[10:54] <pip_> Hello
[10:54] <ompaul> jerusalem, you should really never have to reboot a linux system to regain control of it, have you followed the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:54] <mrmist> And I need at least the 5.0 version... it's a significant jump from 4.1
[10:54] <bliss1_> mwe: ok thanks way better?
[10:54] <mwe> bliss1_: qemu+kqeme is crawling for me, to the point I gave up using it
[10:54] <jerusalem> yeah
[10:55] <jerusalem> but it can also happen w/ .avi files
[10:55] <mwe> bliss1_: vmware is much faster and  more stable
[10:55] <pip_> I have installed mono,but the version is old,I want to update it ,should I delete the old mono and install a new one?
[10:55] <mwe> bliss1_: I had problems installing service packs in qemu
[10:55] <ompaul> jerusalem, this is most unusual, I have not seen this before, is the hardware good?
[10:56] <bliss1_> mwe: is it a ubuntu host and a something else guest
[10:56] <shrewduser> how do i configure ALSA in ubuntu?
[10:57] <jerusalem> yeah
[10:57] <jerusalem> i never had the problem w/ warty
[10:58] <shrewduser> how do i configure ALSA/sound in ubuntu?
[10:58] <ompaul> jerusalem, how did you upgrade?
[10:59] <bliss1_> ompaul; still cloudy but picking up
[10:59] <Frogzoo> !sound
[10:59] <ubotu> methinks sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[10:59] <tiggy|lappy> hello.  I'm using kubuntu.  I don't know why, but now when I log in through kdm x crashes instantly and kdm starts again.  No matter what user I log in as, it crashes.  However, failsafe login works
[10:59] <jerusalem> http://israeliparkers.no-ip.com/screenshot.png ompaul
[10:59] <magenet> how do your remove programs not listed in add/remove like cedega?
[10:59] <Frogzoo> shrewduser: IMO esd is preferable to alsa, as you can have multiple sound sources
[10:59] <jerusalem> apt-get install after having had changed the repositories
[10:59] <Frogzoo> !alsa
[10:59] <ubotu> it has been said that alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[10:59] <Frogzoo> !esd
[10:59] <Frogzoo> wot, no !esd ?
[10:59] <tiggy|lappy> magenet: if you didn't install it from a debian package, you'll have to remove the files manually
[11:00] <magenet> it was a deb pkg
[11:00] <Frogzoo> !tell shrewduser about esd
[11:00] <shrewduser> esd give's me sound overruns in wine :(
[11:00] <tiggy|lappy> magenet: okay, then dpkg --remove it, or run synaptic and find it under the installed packages and uncheck it
[11:00] <magenet> but the ubuntu add remove thing its not like debian one
[11:00] <Frogzoo> shrewduser: you can be running esd, but you must select oss within winecfg
[11:00] <magenet> ok ill try that
[11:00] <jerusalem> weird. i loaded an .avi and then reloaded the .wmv and it worked fine
[11:00] <magenet> thx
[11:01] <shrewduser> it doesn't work... i don't get any sound with oss
[11:01] <tiggy|lappy> magenet: the add-remove thing is just a simplified interface for certain special programs.  Use Synaptic for anything it doesn't list
[11:01] <shrewduser> how do i configure esd then?
[11:01] <Frogzoo> shrewduser: are you running wine from the repos?
[11:01] <magenet> k
[11:01] <tiggy|lappy> shrewduser: personally, I've had my best times with wine if I get my sound through jack -alsa
[11:02] <bliss1_> ompaul; got the pm
[11:02] <shrewduser> Frogzoo: yes
[11:02] <shrewduser> jack... i have that installed afaik but wine can't find it... :(
[11:02] <ompaul> jerusalem, you went to hoary first?
[11:02] <tiggy|lappy> Frogzoo: depends which repos.  There's a special wine repo in the sources-list-generator
[11:02] <tiggy|lappy> shrewduser: you have to start it.  type jackd at the terminal to start the jack daemon
[11:03] <shrewduser> thanks
[11:03] <Frogzoo> shrewduser: imo, the breezy wine.deb is too old to be very helpful, wine really needs the latest release, learn how to use 'apt-get source' & 'dpkg-buildpackage' (me thinks this is looking like something for the wiki)
[11:03] <jerusalem> sorry. i was on hoary, then breezy. git confused
[11:03] <tiggy|lappy> shrewduser: or more specifically jackd -d alsa
[11:03] <holycow> lwhat Frogzoo said
[11:03] <Frogzoo> tiggy|lappy: yes, the sourceforge repo
[11:03] <shrewduser> i have wine from the wine rep
[11:04] <shrewduser> g2g :(
[11:04] <Frogzoo> shrewduser: so what is breaking? which app?
[11:04] <tiggy|lappy> Frogzoo: no need to build it, there's a wine repo listed in the sources.list generator
[11:05] <bliss1_> trying ti apt-get remove kernel-image-2.6.12-9-386 and 2.6.12-10-386  cannot find it
[11:05] <tiggy|lappy> anyway you guys, I'm having problems
[11:05] <tiggy|lappy> help me out
[11:05] <tiggy|lappy> x crashes as soon as I log in
[11:05] <Frogzoo> tiggy|lappy: you need to build it to run WoW- :( WoW needs a patch
[11:05] <tiggy|lappy> oh
[11:05] <Frogzoo> tiggy|lappy: have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'   ?
[11:06] <tiggy|lappy> Frogzoo: that wouldn't help.  KDM works
[11:06] <tiggy|lappy> x starts perfectly fine
[11:06] <Frogzoo> tiggy|lappy: did gnome ever work?
[11:06] <tiggy|lappy> it just suddenly crashes after I put in my name and password
[11:06] <tiggy|lappy> yes, it did work before (kde)
[11:06] <tiggy|lappy> it must be one of the services that starts after I log in, but it's not user-dependant
[11:06] <jon_> Hey I'm helping a cyber cafe go all out Linux and we gotta buy web cams, which web cams are 100 % Linux friendly?
[11:06] <holycow> tiggy|lappy, backup your /home and reinstall
[11:07] <jon_> Anyone have a suggestion I'll appreciate it a lot.
[11:07] <tiggy|lappy> =[ reinstall
[11:07] <holycow> its just the fastest way, it can be fixed but requires quite a bit of fenegling
[11:07] <ompaul> jerusalem, well the only thing I can suggest is to try installing the codecs again the way it is written in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and test again after that, if it fails then write a bug report for it, it won't get fixed for breezy but might light up a flag for someone. there are other options such as reinstall but I am loath to suggest that, some times the upgrade process is not always smooth, before you try that have you got a b
[11:07] <ompaul> reezy live cd? if so try to boot the machine with that, and install the codecs for it in ram (if you have enough) and then try to run the video if you get it playing at all then I would think you have something wrong with your totem, it might be worth doing >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure totem<< that is all I can think of at this time
[11:07] <tiggy|lappy> what's the problem?  I think it has to do with some services kde starts when I log in
[11:07] <holycow> jon_, just to answer, i wish i knew it's somethin i will be looking into my self.  sorry for no help answer
[11:08] <Frogzoo> tiggy|lappy: I'm thinking move  .gnome -> .gnome.x ; .gnome2 -> .gnome2.x; .gnome_private -> .gnome_private.x ; .gnome2_private -> .gnome2_private.x & retry
[11:08] <tiggy|lappy> I guess this is a good time to install ubuntu-desktop and see if gnome will start
[11:08] <tiggy|lappy> Frogzoo: I'm not using gnome
[11:08] <Frogzoo> tiggy|lappy: same applies for .gconf & .gconf.d
[11:09] <holycow> tiggy|lappy, no it doesn't, youhosed something without realizing it.  i humbly recommend just reinstalling, but again up to you
[11:09] <Frogzoo> tiggy|lappy: oh, you mean kde crashes?
[11:09] <tiggy|lappy> yes
[11:09] <tiggy|lappy> kde crashes x
[11:09] <tiggy|lappy> after I hit log in
[11:09] <Frogzoo> tiggy|lappy: same deal, try to move aside your kde settings
[11:10] <tiggy|lappy> how?
[11:10] <tiggy|lappy> it's not user-dependant-- I tried creating a new user and had the same problem logging in as them
[11:10] <tacim> asu
[11:10] <Frogzoo> tiggy|lappy: ooh, that's not good
[11:10] <tiggy|lappy> but failsafe login works
[11:11] <tiggy|lappy> what are the differences between a failsafe login and a regular one in what config files it looks at?
[11:11] <pip_> hello,anyone uses kylix here?
[11:12] <tacim> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[11:13] <mzuverink> _jason:  I ended p doing a full reinstall and the updates did not result in that same openoffice icon disappearing problem
[11:16] <bliss1_> ompaul: trying to unistall kernels i do not need trying ti apt-get remove kernel-image-2.6.12-9-386 and 2.6.12-10-386  cannot find it does the command look correct?
[11:17] <GiGaHuRtZ> I'm having trouble finding an available freenode staffer, any around?
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> is there some program that is a Macromedia Fireworks equivalent? Gimp is too complicated for what I want to do.
[11:18] <ompaul> bliss1_,  linux-image-2.6.12-9-386   (sudo apt-cache search 2.6.12-9 would tell ya :-))
[11:19] <ketsugi> fyrestrtr: vector drawing program?
[11:19] <ketsugi> I forget what Fireworks is
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> Fireworks is macromedia's program for idiots like me who just want to create images for the web
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> its very simple to use, and has very web-friendly features (like the creation of drop down menus etc)
[11:20] <Dr3as> well, regarding vectorbased drawing, anyone that can recommend me a easy simple one?
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> I don't need the drop down menu part, but I am having a hell of a time doing something as simple as -- scaling an image, adding it to another -- its taken me 20 minutes to figure out how to scale.
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> Dr3as: Inkscape is good
[11:21] <Dr3as> kk, i'm just gonna make a logo, and it's hell more easy to use vector.. resize ftw ;)
[11:22] <ompaul> fyrestrtr, 40 seconds if you had gimp open
[11:22] <Madpilot> Dr3as, Inkscape is great
[11:22] <fyrestrtr> ompaul: I've had it open for 40 minutes
[11:22] <fyrestrtr> I'm just graphically dumb
[11:22] <ompaul> fyrestrtr, let me start it
[11:22] <Delicates> I'm looking for "broken Windows" icons, know where to fond some?
[11:23] <s3xt0y> startkeylogger DCC SEND [myg0t] OWNSYOU
[11:24] <ompaul> fyrestrtr, with image open in gimp right click on it, choose image and scale image
[11:24] <ompaul> opem
[11:24] <ketsugi> uh
[11:24] <s3xt0y> startkeylogger DCC SEND [myg0t] OWNSYOU
[11:24] <tiggy|lappy> argh, kdm crashes when I try and log in to gnome as well
[11:24] <holycow> *hmmm* how does one enable bootsplash again?
[11:24] <holycow> !bootsplash
[11:24] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, holycow
[11:25] <tiggy|lappy> brb
[11:25] <fyrestrtr> ompaul: I have two images open. One is bigger than the other. I want to stick the bigger image, in the smaller one and scale it so it fits the smaller one.
[11:25] <ompaul> FOLKS if you were all dumped please upgrade your router firmware OR join freenode on port 8001
[11:25] <tiggy|lappy> lquit
[11:25] <ompaul> FOLKS its a bug in hardware
[11:25] <Frogzoo> !tell holycow about splash
[11:25] <holycow> thank you bro
[11:25] <Frogzoo> fyrestrtr: gimp
[11:25] <holycow> no no
[11:25] <holycow> thats wrong
[11:25] <holycow> bootsplash
[11:26] <holycow> splash during bootup, mine is not enabled as it carried over hoary settings
[11:26] <ompaul> fyrestrtr, with image open in gimp right click on it, choose image and scale image
[11:26] <fyrestrtr> ompaul: nevermind -- I already did that -- twice.
[11:26] <ompaul> fyrestrtr, that works
[11:26] <fyrestrtr> it refuses to scale without distortion -- I managed to copy it onto the smaller image.
[11:27] <holycow> !easybuntu
[11:27] <ubotu> holycow: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:27] <ompaul> holycow, no
[11:27] <fyrestrtr> Then, it won't let me select the imported image, -- but even though I told it to add it as a new layer, it stuck it in the background layer and now won't let me select the pasted image.
[11:27] <Frogzoo> fyrestrtr: you need to maintain aspect ratio - you might need to crop
[11:27] <holycow> no what?
[11:27] <fyrestrtr> Frogzoo: yes! thank you -- where in the bloomin eh' is this freakin option in gimp.
[11:28] <Frogzoo> fyrestrtr: just when you scale, click the <-> icon between the x & y settings
[11:29] <holycow> !easyubuntu
[11:29] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[11:30] <ompaul> holycow, sudo update-alternatives --all   << then after that >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-'uname -r'
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> wtf?!?!?!? this stupid gimp.
[11:31] <holycow> ompaul, oh heh, i see what you are saying, sweet!
[11:31] <holycow> fyrestrtr, re: earlier question...
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> open two images -- scale one image -- select it -- copy it to clip board.
[11:31] <holycow> there realy isn't anything like fireworks anywhere
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> on the second image, create new layer
[11:31] <holycow> the closest you might get are vector apps likeinkscape
[11:32] <fyrestrtr> edit -> paste into
[11:32] <ompaul> fyrestrtr, well if you have a static image upscaling it you need to populate pixels hard to do, if your scaling it down then its easier, that is why there are vector images they scale well
[11:33] <fyrestrtr> move the newly pasted image to selected postion, as soon as you let go of the mouse, the image is frozen to the background layer, you can't un freeze it or stick in another layer. what am I doing wrong here?
[11:33] <fyrestrtr> this seems like something simple -- cut a section of another image, paste it as a new layer.
[11:33] <fyrestrtr> can't figure out how to do this.
[11:34] <hintswen> how can i remotely access my ubuntu machine from my windows machine?
[11:34] <holycow> fyrestrtr, you are misinterpreting whats going on there
[11:34] <fyrestrtr> hintswen: ssh
[11:34] <holycow> when you paste: you can do one of two things
[11:34] <fyrestrtr> holycow: probably, because I am not a photoshop wizard.
[11:34] <hintswen> how can i do it with the GUI
[11:34] <ompaul> hintswen, install openssh and then install putty in your windows box
[11:34] <fyrestrtr> but it certainly is frustrating.
[11:34] <holycow> a: click with mous on layer that you want to ANCHORT THE PASTE TO
[11:34] <hintswen> i want the GUI though
[11:34] <holycow> b: after paste click on the new layer icon to anchor the paste to a new layer
[11:35] <holycow> fyrestrtr, as is anything when learnign first, i will be putting up tons of gimp tutorials eventually
[11:35] <Aqutavia> ... for the live cd iso... do i need to burn that to a cd or dvd. im just asking cuz the iso size is 600+ megs.
[11:35] <hintswen> ?
[11:35] <zyth> Aqutavia, CD-R holds 700mb generally
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> holycow: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH AAAAAAAAAAAAAH :D now it works lol
[11:36] <holycow> fyrestrtr, the magic is in the know how
[11:36] <Aqutavia> thanx zyth.
[11:36] <fyrestrtr> holycow: yeah, and the lack of knowhow :P
[11:36] <holycow> ompaul, thanks bro, i wasn't googling much there, thats great
[11:36] <hintswen> is there any way?
[11:36] <holycow> fyrestrtr, or in the case of experienced photoshop users, UNLEARNING their skillset
[11:37] <fyrestrtr> well I'm neither experienced nor a photoshop user so for me, its just all new.
[11:37] <fyrestrtr> holycow: ah I see the problem.
[11:37] <hintswen> i guess not :(
[11:37] <fyrestrtr> holycow: when I am done moving it, it anchors the image to the background layer, even though when it pastes it, its in its own new layer.
[11:37] <holycow> your actually FAR AHEAD of a typical ps user then, it will be much easier for you to learn gimp actually
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> so now again, its stuck. hrmm
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> maybe I didn't click the right layer.
[11:38] <holycow> correct
[11:39] <fyrestrtr> let me try this again
[11:39] <hintswen> :(
[11:40] <fyrestrtr> holycow: here is a dumb question, why isn't there a simple 'pointer' tool?
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> holycow: like the arrow
[11:41] <tiggy|lappy> fyrestrtr: what do you mean?
[11:41] <holycow> fyrestrtr, what do you mean?
[11:41] <holycow> press m
[11:41] <tiggy|lappy> anyway uh, I've figured out it's totally a problem with kdm
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> tiggy|lappy: in every other app that I have used, there is usually a default select tool, whose icon is an arrow (usually white arrow). I don't see this in gimp
[11:41] <tiggy|lappy> I switched to gdm and everything's fine
[11:42] <holycow> yes just press m
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> hrmm
[11:42] <tiggy|lappy> fyrestrtr: select tool?  You don't "select" in raster image editors
[11:42] <holycow> or look in your toolbar, its the crossed arrow icon,
[11:43] <phenex> hey guys, i have ubuntu AMD64 installed, what application can i use to read PDF files? preferably one that i can use inside a firefox window...
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> tiggy|lappy: sorry for my ignorance, but I just yesterday learned what is a vector image and what is a bitmap image :)
[11:43] <jamesthered> phenex: pretty sure there's a firefox plugin for that
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> tiggy|lappy: I am just a developer, so I don't deal with graphics much.
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> phenex: acroreader, openoffice, xpdf
[11:43] <jamesthered> don't know if that helps, but I"m a complete newbie (sorry!) I do remember reading that there was somewhere tho
[11:44] <tiggy|lappy> fyrestrtr: what's that supposed to mean =P.  Everyone should know.  Vectors are rare-er-- they're made of math
[11:44] <phenex> jamesthered, a firefox plugin that will let me read pdf won't need an external pdf application?
[11:44] <jamesthered> I thought that was weird too.  forget I said anything (not sure how to PM)
[11:44] <fyrestrtr> tiggy|lappy: yes I knew what they were a long time back, but what I mean to say was, since I don't work with graphics a lot, the information is quickly archived so I have to look it up again when (once every 2 months) I open up a graphics editor.
[11:45] <tiggy|lappy> fyrestrtr: anyway, what's the tool you're looking for?  If you want to "select" an area, you might use the rectangular selection tool (R)
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> tiggy|lappy: well no, I want the 'no tool selected' tool, which is generally just an arrow -- so I can click and not worry about editing the image (if it makes sense).
[11:45] <tiggy|lappy> heh...
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> basically, a tool to select a layer, or an area.
[11:46] <fyrestrtr> anyway -- trying to do this simple task
[11:46] <fyrestrtr> have two images open
[11:46] <fyrestrtr> one has a flag
[11:46] <Aqutavia> while holding ctrl click on the layer you wish to select. ?!
[11:46] <tiggy|lappy> fyrestrtr: try the compass -- "measures distances and angles".  Or the eyedropper is okay too
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> the other, a banner with a background color filled. I created a new layer -- and now, the monster task -- pasting the flag, into the newly created layer.
[11:48] <tiggy|lappy> heh...
[11:48] <und0> hello
[11:48] <und0> need some help please
[11:48] <tiggy|lappy> fyrestrtr: watch out, pasting is a bit weird in gimp.  Its default behavior is to create a fake layer when you paste
[11:48] <ompaul> !anyone
[11:48] <ubotu> a large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[11:49] <fyrestrtr> tiggy|lappy: yeah a noticed that, but I want it to paste -- into the layer I already created.
[11:49] <tiggy|lappy> fyrestrtr: it will call this "Floating Selection (pasted layer)"
[11:49] <fyrestrtr> tiggy|lappy: yes, its when it 'sticks' the layer to the background layer -- that's what really irks me because now, I cant move the pasted image!
[11:49] <und0> I have an iMAC g3 and I`ve requested shiping for free cd-s from ubuntu, and I`ve inserted a cd for mac into my iMac G3 sload loading cd-rom, I`ve restarted the mac, and when it loads it stays  and apears a folder with "?" and slides to macintosh logo!
[11:50] <und0> I can`t eject the cd becouse my cd-rom is sloat loading
[11:50] <und0> So... if you can help me tanks
[11:50] <fyrestrtr> und0: I believe if you hold down F12 it will eject the cd
[11:50] <tiggy|lappy> fyrestrtr: to stick it you right-click the layer and select the anchor...   So get your layers set up so it'll anchor in the right place on the right layer
[11:50] <engla> you can eject it by pressing the mouse button when booting
[11:50] <und0> tanks
[11:50] <engla> und0: but are you pressing C to try to boot from it? It should work flawlessly
[11:51] <fyrestrtr> tiggy|lappy: when I right click, the anchor option is greyed out
[11:51] <jamesthered> also, I believe if you get desperate to get the cd out (none of the other ideas work) there's a hole on the drive where you can push in a straightened paper clip to manually open the drive
[11:51] <jamesthered> even it it's off
[11:51] <tiggy|lappy> fyrestrtr: it shouldn't be greyed if the layer is called "Floating Selection"
[11:51] <und0> no its not geting out when i click the mouse button
[11:51] <fyrestrtr> oh you mean the new pasted layer.
[11:51] <tiggy|lappy> yes
[11:51] <und0> (maybe becouse I have normal mouse on usb)
[11:51] <engla> und0: you have to press and hold it when booting
[11:52] <jamesthered> are you guys typing the username and colon at the beginning of each message, or is there an easier way to get it to appear? (rarely see typos so must be another way, right?)
[11:52] <engla> und0: well It might not be a 100% solution though, but it is supposed to work with all macs since the mac plus
[11:52] <engla> jamesthered: tab completion
[11:53] <jamesthered> engla, thanks
[11:53] <BlueEalge> jamesthered: ja<tab> :)
[11:53] <fyrestrtr> tiggy|lappy: hrmm, seems I got it, but I created the 'paste' layer the same size as the background layer (the size of the image). I'm going to undo, and create a new layer the size of the flag. As it is right now, the flag is stuck in the middle of the flag layer, which is the size of the entire image lol
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> got it !! thanks tiggy :D :D
[11:55] <AdventChild> !wireless
[11:55] <ubotu> I heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[11:55] <root_> hi
[11:56] <rohan007> hi this is bisht
[11:56] <holycow> root_, please remove your root account and use a restricted account, ESPECIALLY when on irc
[11:56] <holycow> !root
[11:56] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:56] <AdventChild> lol
[11:56] <tiggy|lappy> fyrestrtr: yay
[11:57] <tiggy|lappy> well, my tablet is not getting set up right =[
[11:58] <fyrestrtr> tiggy|lappy: how do you lock a layer in place? I always move the background layer by mistake when selecting things :(
[11:59] <fyrestrtr> I thought I would just hide it, but that wouldn't stop me from moving it
[12:01] <tiggy|lappy> fyrestrtr: hm..  I coulda sworn there was a way to lock layers
[12:01] <zyth> glue.
[12:03] <ecen> hello, i'm trying to set environment variables in the system and everytime i restart these variables are lost, what am i doing wrong?
[12:03] <skpl> can someone please help me? my speakers are spitting out static instead of sound
[12:03] <holycow> tiggy|lappy, not yet, gimp and ps are not exactly 1:1 feature wise, but they are close
[12:04] <holycow> tiggy|lappy, there are a good number of features in gimp not in ps too and vice versa, so its a give and take
[12:04] <prgrmr> how can i install fire fox java plugin?
[12:05] <ecen> anyone?
[12:06] <bimberi> ecen:  where are you setting them?  /etc/environment ?
[12:06] <holycow> !restrictedformats
[12:06] <ubotu> restrictedformats is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:07] <ecen> bimberi: i'm using export command. is it wrong?
[12:07] <FearMoth> is there any way to compare two directories for any differences in file contents and directory structure?
[12:08] <mwe> FearMoth: yes
[12:08] <bimberi> ecen: not required in that file - afaik
[12:08] <FearMoth> mwe: how?
[12:09] <mwe> FearMoth: do you want it to show all files that differ?
[12:09] <Fracture> anyone here know how to specify which g++ compiler to use when building with apt-get -b ?
[12:09] <FearMoth> mwe: yeah, possibly how they differ too if possible
[12:10] <mwe> Fracture: I think export CPP
[12:10] <ecen> nope, i mean, im not using the /etc/environment file... im just setting in the command prompt using export
[12:10] <mwe> Fracture: well diff shows how two files differ if they do
[12:10] <shad0w1e> how do I change my resolution on display:1, display:2, etc ?
[12:10] <jadaz87> Fracture i do not know about g++ but for gcc the line is: export CC=ggc-3.4
[12:10] <Frogzoo> the wiki's authentication server is down atm - can't login
[12:10] <mwe> FearMoth: ^^
[12:11] <Frogzoo> export CC=gcc-3.4
[12:11] <Fracture> jadaz87: tried that, doesn't work
[12:11] <kbrooks> hi
[12:11] <FearMoth> mwe: ??
[12:12] <mwe> FearMoth: the diff command in a terminal shows how two files differ
[12:12] <jadaz87> Fracture did you repleace gcc with what ever the name of the g++ compiler is?
[12:12] <Fracture> Frogzoo: doesn't work with apt-get -b :(
[12:12] <zyth> Fracture, is you shell bash?
[12:12] <Fracture> zyth: yes
[12:12] <zyth> *your
[12:12] <FearMoth> oh ok, I'll read the manpage thanks
[12:12] <zyth> ok
[12:12] <Fracture> jadaz87: I installed g++-2.95
[12:12] <zyth> always good to check if export isn't working ;)
[12:12] <mwe> FearMoth: Do the files have the same names or should they all be compared mutually in all combinations
[12:12] <Fracture> jadaz87: I don't understand how gcc and g++ interoperate
[12:13] <FearMoth> mwe: well I'm going to make a backup of a directory, and install something and then compare the two and see what was modified or if anything was modified
[12:13] <zyth> Fracture, g++ is the c++ preprocessor for gcc.
[12:13] <Fracture> zyth: cool
[12:14] <Fracture> zyth: the issue I am getting is : apt-get -b source pgadmin3 pgadmin3-data ends up with : i486-linux-gnu-g++: Internal error: Segmentation fault (program cc1plus)
[12:14] <mwe> FearMoth: oh. you should probably use backup software for that
[12:14] <shad0w1e> apt-get moo
[12:14] <zyth> a segfault? oi.
[12:14] <zyth> which ver of gcc have you got?
[12:15] <holycow> !mplayer
[12:15] <ubotu> I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[12:15] <Fracture> zyth: I have 4.0, 3.4 and 2.95 installed
[12:15] <mwe> FearMoth: what you want is called incremental backup
[12:15] <Fracture> 4.0 is the default
[12:15] <mwe> FearMoth: I think
[12:15] <FearMoth> mwe: any software you can recommend?
[12:15] <jadaz87> hello i installed kubuntu-desktop and now i want to uninstall any packages that were installed along with it how do i do that?
[12:15] <zyth> Fracture, tried any other versions?
[12:15] <skpl> how do i remove a directory when it has files in it?
[12:16] <Fracture> zyth: that is what I am trying to work out how to do ;)
[12:16] <zyth> skpl, rm -rf dirname
[12:16] <mwe> FearMoth: tar
[12:16] <jadaz87> skpl: sudo rm -r /directoy
[12:16] <mwe> FearMoth: http://www.linux-backup.net/Full_Inc/
[12:16] <kingspawn> jadaz87: hey, dont say that
[12:16] <kingspawn> jadaz87: thats a bit much
[12:16] <mwe> FearMoth: read that and come back if you don't understand it
[12:16] <mwe> FearMoth: gotta go, bbl
[12:16] <FearMoth> mwe: I was wondering if there's anything that shows files that aren't in the original directory, and then for the rest that are in the directory, just diff them and report if there's any changes?
[12:16] <jadaz87> kindspawn i mean directory path
[12:16] <FearMoth> thanks mwe
[12:17] <jadaz87> skpl i mean directory path
[12:17] <zyth> Fracture, I'm unsure how in Linux, sorry.  I'm new to the ubuntu thing, i'm a *BSD guy, :(
[12:17] <zyth> is 'gcc' a symlink?
[12:17] <kbrooks> NO
[12:17] <Fracture> zyth: if I use this "CPP=g++-2.95 CC=gcc-2.95 apt-get -b source pgadmin3 pgadmin3-data" I get : configure: error: C preprocessor "g++-2.95" fails sanity check
[12:17] <kbrooks> No, zyth
[12:17] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: remove libqt3-mt should get rid of kubuntu-desktop with most apps that were installed with it. unless you did sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop than just sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop
[12:18] <gnomefreak> zyth: gcc is a compiler
[12:18] <zyth> gnomefreak, yes, but he has 4 versions installed.  Hence the question if 'gcc' may be a symlink to a specific ver.
[12:18] <chiche> hello?
[12:18] <brownie17> hey, who knows what the difference is between the "complete linux kernel" and the "linux kernel image"
[12:18] <pax> ah finally, an updgrade of tango-icons-theme
[12:19] <pax> oops wrong window
[12:19] <zyth> brownie17, I expect a linux kernel image is a precompiled kernel binary.
[12:19] <Frogzoo> the wiki authentication db is down so noone can login... :(
[12:19] <kingspawn> jadaz87: i know, but if you want "etc" in your own homedir, and follow your advice there... :)
[12:19] <gnomefreak> zyth: no its not a symlink its a compiler different versions are in ubuntu because not everything was build with say gcc 3.4
[12:19] <zyth> gnomefreak, okay, cool.
[12:20] <jadaz87> gnomefreak bad idea it wants to uninstall opera, k3b, qjackctrl, amarok
[12:21] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: yes libqt3-mt is what kde apps need to run getting rid of it gets rid of most everything that ran on it
[12:22] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: amarok k3b and opera i know run on qt
[12:22] <skpl> what is the easiest way to install java?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: so it gets rid of them? install them over again ;)
[12:22] <jadaz87> gnomefreak i guess so
[12:22] <gnomefreak> skpl: enable multiverse and use synaptic
[12:22] <gnomefreak> skpl: look for blackdown
[12:22] <jadaz87> gnomefreak i love my opera :-(
[12:23] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: opera takes all of 30 secs to install after downloaded
[12:23] <Xenguy> !tell skpl about java
[12:23] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: if you still have the download just run dpkg -i operablahblahblah.deb
[12:23] <jadaz87> gnomefreak if i uninstall it will it get rid of my settings?
[12:23] <skpl> gnomefreak, i do not see anything like 'blackdown' in synaptic, and i have multiverse enabled
[12:23] <skpl> !javadebs
[12:24] <gnomefreak> skpl: click search and type in there java   blackdown will be under the b's
[12:25] <gnomefreak> skpl: if using breezy add seveas repos and install java 1.5 from there
[12:25] <skpl> im using dapper
[12:25] <gnomefreak> skpl: than i would say use
[12:25] <tdn> How do I make my gdesklets startup every time I login to Gnome?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> !java
[12:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu ?
[12:25] <Fracture> incase anyone is interested.. I solved it with : rm /usr/bin/i486-linux-gnu-g++; ln -s i486-linux-gnu-g++-3.4 /usr/bin/i486-linux-gnu-g++; CPP=/usr/bin/cpp-3.4 CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 apt-get -b source pgadmin3 pgadmin3-data
[12:25] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[12:26] <gnomefreak> nm
[12:26] <jadaz87> gnomefreak do you think it whould delete my opera settings?
[12:26] <Fracture> though I thought there shoud be an easier way to do it without changing the file system links
[12:27] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: no as long as you dont purge anything i think you will be fine
[12:27] <isamb> how can I mirror Ubuntu Apt repositoy for the i386 only ?
[12:27] <gnomefreak> brb smoke time
[12:27] <isamb> it seems that the /pool contains all the packages for all archs for all dists..
[12:27] <holycow> there is something about about gnome in dapper that feels snazzy
[12:27] <holycow> wow
[12:27] <jadaz87> gnomefreak oh ok i was wondering when i get rid of libqt3blah and uninstall those programs should i install libqt4 after that since there is a new version in dapper?
[12:28] <isamb> I want to mirror all packages for dapper for i386 only..
[12:28] <tonyyarusso> holycow, I agree.
[12:28] <tdn> Does anyone in here use gDesklets?
[12:28] <Xenguy> Sonderblade: if you can get the 'rcconf' utility, it makes it easier; or else use update-rc.d
[12:30] <Xenguy> ww
[12:30] <bym777> hi all  ,how  to pronounce 'ubuntu'  ?
[12:31] <Fracture> bym777: you boon two
[12:31] <maskd> i pronounce it "oo bun too"
[12:31] <tdn> maskd, me too.
[12:31] <maskd> probably because im australian
[12:31] <bym777> yes .thanks
[12:32] <tatters> when I set up a web server and it ask for my FQDN , can I use the FQDN that I got from dyndns services ?
[12:32] <tdn> tatters, that should be possible.
[12:33] <tatters> well thats good enough for ill give it a shot
[12:34] <god> how do i enable eth2 via terminal
[12:35] <bimberi> god: ifup eth2
[12:35] <bimberi> god: sudo ifup eth2   (oops)
[12:36] <god> himberi: i would of figured that part out. thanks tho
[12:37] <bimberi> bod: np :)
[12:38] <pip_> how to install rpm package on ubuntu ?
[12:38] <ompaul> pip_, you don't
[12:39] <ompaul> pip_, what package do you want to install
[12:39] <pip_> ompaul, a rpm package
[12:39] <ompaul> whats it called?
[12:39] <tiggy|lappy> pip_: it's usually best to find a deb, but you can use alien to convert rpms...
[12:40] <pip_> alien?
[12:40] <pip_> tiggy|lappy, a tool ?
[12:40] <ompaul> pip_, you can end up in a whole world of hurt if you try that - and yes alien is a tool but as I say we actually have a build for it
[12:41] <ompaul> pip_, there are almost 17800 packages available for ubuntu in the 5.10 edition
[12:41] <pip_> ompaul, can you find libpcap.so.0.6.2 package ?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> pip_: afaik anohter package hold that like most .so libs give me a min ill see what i can find
[12:42] <ompaul> pip_, I can find 0.8 and 0.7 versions
[12:42] <ompaul> pip_, what is the package that depends on this?
[12:42] <ompaul> that we may also have
[12:43] <ompaul> or we may have a way to get from where you are to there with minimum hurt
[12:43] <pip_> ompaul, a tcp tool package
[12:43] <gnomefreak> pip_: apt-cache search libpcap and you will see all the libpcaps (not sure what one would hold it if it would be normal or dev package
[12:43] <ompaul> pip_, from snort to etherreal we have a lot of stuff in there
[12:44] <romain_> hi
[12:44] <hafta> hi room
[12:44] <hafta> i wanna transfer some data to window drive can i do ????
[12:44] <romain_> how to change my Clok system to localtime please ( i use GMT )
[12:45] <pip_> gnomefreak, apt-cacher?
[12:45] <hafta> hello
[12:46] <hafta> Any one???
[12:46] <ompaul> hafta, not safely if it is ntfs and ok if it is vfat
[12:46] <ompaul> !patience
[12:46] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[12:46] <BlueEalge> hafta: You can format it as fat32 or you can install a driver in windows to access an ext2/3 partition.
[12:46] <hafta> it is NTFS
[12:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hafta: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[12:46] <ompaul> hafta, then the answer is now
[12:46] <ompaul> hafta, then the answer is no
[12:47] <hafta> i hav Xp
[12:47] <hafta> i wanna tranfer data
[12:47] <spliff> Linux spliff 2.6.15-18-386 Thu Mar 9 14:41:49 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:47] <BlueEalge> hafta: You can install a driver in windows to access ext2 and/or ext3 partitions
[12:47] <hafta> from ubuntu to Xp
[12:47] <hafta> what is ext2???
[12:47] <ompaul> !enter
[12:47] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:48] <cirqueduphreak> hafta: You can install a driver in windows to access ext2 and/or ext3 partitions <--- how ?
[12:48] <BlueEalge> hafta: it's one of the more common filesystems used in linux.
[12:48] <digen> hafta, ext2 is the file system without journaling
[12:48] <skpl> can someone help me? i installed firefox but do not know ho to start the browser
[12:48] <BlueEalge> hafta: well it has been superceeded by ext3 now
[12:48] <skpl> what is the command?
[12:48] <BlueEalge> skpl: mozilla-firefox iirc
[12:48] <gnomefreak> skpl: firefox
[12:48] <avds> where is X.org documentation? man X.org gives me nada, but I have X.org installed
[12:48] <skpl> bash: firefox: command not found
[12:48] <gnomefreak> unless you installed mozilla-firefox than that would be it
[12:49] <BlueEalge> avds: man xorg.conf
[12:49] <BlueEalge> avds: man xorg
[12:49] <hafta> so i hav to go to back to Xp
[12:49] <skpl> gnomefreak, bash: mozilla-firefox: command not found
[12:49] <hafta> right now i am in ubuntu
[12:49] <gnomefreak> skpl: you didnt install it fully or made mistake
[12:49] <gnomefreak> skpl: did you read the wiki on installing ff?
[12:49] <skpl> gnomefreak, which package is best for installing firefox?
[12:49] <skpl> gnomefreak, no
[12:49] <gnomefreak> skpl: is this ff thats in repos or a newer version?
[12:50] <BlueEalge> hafta: you can make a vfat partition or run wmware server on your windows partition, but they are both workarounds. Please feel free to email microsoft and ask them to release the NTFS spesifications.
[12:50] <skpl> i had <IP_ADDRESS> installed but it was crashing so i deleted the installation dir and tried to install firefox from the repos
[12:50] <skpl> gnomefreak, but i do not know how to start the program now
[12:50] <avds> # man xorg.conf
[12:50] <avds> No manual entry for xorg.conf
[12:50] <digen> avds: man xorg
[12:51] <gnomefreak> skpl: you have to remove the symlink. please read the ff1.5 page for removal instructions
[12:51] <BlueEalge> avds: Then something's wrong.
[12:51] <kbrooks> skpl: what command did you use to delete the directory?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ff1.5
[12:51] <hafta> BlueEagle: what i do now
[12:51] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[12:51] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:51] <hafta> BlueEagle: what i d/l
[12:51] <avds> man xorg works
[12:51] <skpl> gnomefreak, i do not have a working browser, so i cannot visit that page
[12:51] <kbrooks> skpl: epiphany
[12:52] <BlueEalge> hafta: the easiest if you haven't got a fat32 partition and you need something from your linux partition in windows is to get it from windows using a ext2/3 driver.
[12:52] <digen> avds: yes it does :)
[12:52] <BlueEalge> hafta: unless you formatted your linux partition(s) as reiserfs.
[12:52] <avds> digen, DOH, but man xorg.conf DOESN'T!
[12:52] <gnomefreak> skpl: w3m or install a number of graphical browsers
[12:53] <hafta> BlueEagle: what driver shud i d/l
[12:53] <gnomefreak> skpl: there are so many browsers for pretty much any os you just have to choose one ;)
[12:53] <BlueEalge> hafta: http://www.google.com/search?q=windows+ext+driver+filesystem
[12:53] <digen> avds: man xorg.conf works
[12:53] <hafta> BlueEagle: right now i am in ubuntu
[12:53] <romain_> how to change my Clok system to localtime please ( i use GMT )
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ok time for class later all
[12:53] <avds> digen: can you please 'ls /usr/share/man/man5 | grep xorg'
[12:53] <hafta> where i install it
[12:54] <hafta> in window or where
[12:54] <jadaz87> does anyone know where the kdedesktop backgrounds are located?
[12:54] <AnAnt> where does Ubuntu save network configuration ?
[12:54] <AnAnt> I need to assign 2 IPs to a network interface
[12:54] <AnAnt> ie. make eth0 & eth0:1
[12:54] <jadaz87> AnAnt /etc/network/interfaces
[12:54] <BlueEalge> anant: /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/resolv.conf
[12:54] <AnAnt> thx
[12:55] <digen> avds: its taking me to the prompt
[12:55] <jadaz87> you are most welcome
[12:55] <digen> avds:back to the prompt rather
[12:55] <hafta> BlueEagle: where to install ext driver in Xp
[12:55] <hafta> or ubuntu
[12:55] <holycow> wow dapper gnome terminal is very fast now
[12:55] <holycow> neato
[12:56] <digen> hafta:install in xp
[12:56] <jadaz87> does anyone know where the kdedesktop backgrounds are located?
[12:56] <apokryphos> jadams: /usr/share/wallpapers?
[12:56] <avds> digen find /usr/share/man/ -name '*xorg.conf*' then please
[12:56] <apokryphos> *jadaz87
[12:56] <BlueEalge> hafta: It being a windows driver I would guess you need to install it in windows.
[12:57] <jadaz87> apokryphos: thank you so very much
[12:57] <hafta> i hav Xp sp2
[12:57] <digen> avds: it takes me to the prompt
[12:58] <hafta> please give direct link of program
[12:58] <avds> digen, and man xorg.conf works???
[12:58] <hafta> BlueEagle: i am new in linux
[12:58] <digen> avds: yes it does
[12:58] <hafta> BlueEagle: i hav 3 hdd
[12:58] <hafta> one for Xp
[12:58] <digen> avds: let me try finding its location
[12:59] <hafta> second one for linux
[12:59] <avds> digen oops, find /usr/share/man/ -name 'xorg.conf*' should
[12:59] <hafta> third one for data storage
[12:59] <avds> do the trick
[12:59] <BlueEalge> hafta: Then I would really suggest that you make one of them a fat partition if you intend to be sharing data between windows and linux.
[01:00] <hafta> BlueEagle: now its very difficult  to convert
[01:00] <hafta> bcoz i hav to format it
[01:00] <WarOfAttrition> the values that ddcprobe and grep monitorrange give me don't give me 120Hz refresh rate available, does anyone know what I need to do?
[01:01] <BlueEalge> hafta: Well, if you haven't thought about that sooner then you'll probably have to think about it later.
[01:01] <BlueEalge> :)
[01:02] <hafta> BlueEagle: from now i dont wanna to use linux any more
[01:04] <hafta> BlueEagle: what driver to download now
[01:04] <hafta> for access my NTFS hdd
[01:04] <digen> avds: try this man /usr/X11R6/man/man5/xorg.conf.5x.gz
[01:04] <pip_> how to use apt-cacher?
[01:04] <WarOfAttrition> can x server even display 120Hz?
[01:05] <Aqutavia> i know this is probubly not a real good idea;) but i recently aquired a hp omnibook 4150. the lcd is dead so im using an external monitor 17" monitor. i booted using live cd. my desktop looks scrambled(wrong resolution/refresh rate). could some1 walk me though the process of changing the settings via keyboard. im blind as to no clear display on the monitor.;(
[01:06] <skpl> can someone tell me why i get no sound when playing videos with the mplyare plugin for firefox?
[01:06] <Aqutavia> it looks like there is a dialog box in the center of the screen... but i dont know if its asking me to log in or do any other additional configuarion.
[01:06] <jadaz87> does anyone know why this whould be happening? Firefox can't find the file at /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html.
[01:08] <jadaz87> joejaxx@eclipse:~$ ls /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/
[01:08] <jadaz87> firefox-index.html  img  index.html  locales-ubuntu  ubuntu.css <<<the file is there
[01:08] <vmware> Can I ask how to change icons in Gnome ?
[01:08] <bimberi> Aqutavia: does ctrl-alt-f1 work?  (ie. bring up a console)
[01:09] <Aqutavia> bimberi - yes it does.
[01:09] <Aqutavia> i can atleast see the consol now;)
[01:09] <vmware> I have installed them (drag & drop in theme manager)
[01:09] <vmware> but how do I change to new theme (icons!) ?
[01:10] <MM2> how to find out which ubuntu version I have?
[01:11] <bimberi> Aqutavia: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' - try some different settings
[01:11] <bimberi> !version
[01:11] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type 'lsb_release -a' or 'cat /etc/issue' in a terminal.
[01:11] <bimberi> MM2: ^^^^^
[01:12] <Aqutavia> bimberi - im new to the linux seen. i heard that there was increased usability. so im trying it out. but as far as the "dos on steroids go" i have know idea how to controll the beast.
[01:13] <avds> digen, I'm using dapper and this file is just not present http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=xorg.conf.5x.gz&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i386
[01:13] <pax> 'dos on steroids' that's cute
[01:14] <Aqutavia> thanx;) i think.
[01:14] <bimberi> Aqutavia: hehe, yes unfortunately this issue will mean some command-line stuff to sort out :)
[01:14] <bimberi> s/mean/need/
[01:15] <pip_> how to install a rpm package?
[01:15] <Aqutavia> no problem bimberi. im willing to give it a shot. its just nice to walk though something the first time with some1 that has done it b4.
[01:16] <vmware> how do I change icon theme in Gnome?
[01:16] <Frogzoo> pip_: the correct answer is either you don't or that it's highly inadvisable. However, if you must persist, man alien
[01:17] <Frogzoo> !tell vmware about theme
[01:17] <vmware> !tell icons
[01:17] <vmware> Frogzoo, bot broke lol
[01:17] <bimberi> Aqutavia: kk, if you type that command i gave you earlier, go through the screens, the default are usually pretty good - something you could try on the 2nd screen is to select the "vesa" driver
[01:18] <pip_> Frogzoo, I must install libpcap.so.0.6.2
[01:18] <pip_> Frogzoo, can you help me ?
[01:18] <AshyIsMe> hello
[01:19] <AshyIsMe> i just downgraded from dapper to 5.10 (is that badger?) and i'm having some trouble getting my wireless to work again
[01:19] <AshyIsMe> i kept my /home partition unformatted
[01:19] <AshyIsMe> is there a config file stored in ~ that i should delete?
[01:19] <AshyIsMe> the wireless works fine with the live disc (i'm using it now)
[01:20] <AshyIsMe> urgh, "kept my /home partition unformatted" - i mean i didnt format it
[01:22] <Aqutavia> bimberi. i just selected all defaults. the specified the resolutions to use. now im at the cli. how do i get back to gui?
[01:23] <hindley> join #ubuntu+1
[01:23] <jadaz87> does anyone know what the command do search and remove all orphan packages in deborphan is?
[01:23] <hindley> oops... (demonstrates inability to use irc client)
[01:24] <bimberi> Aqutavia: i think ctrl-alt-f7 will take you to X on the live-cd.  It will on the old settings though.  Hit ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X
[01:24] <toresbe> Hello, I have a problem.
[01:24] <ecen> which command do i use to edit a text file in ubuntu like "edit" in windows?
[01:25] <sufa> nano <filename>
[01:25] <toresbe> ecen: there are several - I recommend nano for beginners, or vim if you want to learn an efficient editor
[01:25] <sufa> or gedit <filename>
[01:25] <sufa> for graphical
[01:25] <ecen> thanks
[01:25] <toresbe> How does Ubuntu allow for shutdown from GDM?
[01:25] <toresbe> My computer has been cracked, I need to shut it down now.
[01:26] <ecen> is nano installed by default?
[01:26] <sufa> yes
[01:26] <toresbe> ecen: should be
[01:26] <Frogzoo> toresbe: just pull out the nic
[01:26] <toresbe> But however, he's taken out the sudo
[01:26] <pip_> Hello, there is a .deb package in my Desktop,how can I install it ?
[01:26] <ecen> ok, thanks
[01:26] <Frogzoo> pip_: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[01:26] <avalost> "my computer has been cracked"
[01:26] <sufa> pip_ dpgkg -i <filename>.deb
[01:26] <avalost> define: "cracked"
[01:26] <hindley> toresbe: big red reset button if all else fails!
[01:26] <toresbe> Frogzoo: you mean the network cable
[01:26] <sufa> oops dpkg*
[01:27] <pip_> sufa, no path ?
[01:27] <Frogzoo> toresbe: yes
[01:27] <toresbe> I have no physical access.
[01:27] <pip_> Frogzoo, blah ?
[01:27] <avalost> ?
[01:27] <Frogzoo> pip_: s/blah/debname
[01:27] <sufa> pip_ /path/to/filename.deb
[01:27] <avalost> toresbe: be more specific
[01:28] <Frogzoo> toresbe: ru sure you've been hacked? this is not easy to do, and actually pretty rare
[01:28] <pip_> Frogzoo,then how to uninstall it ?
[01:28] <sufa> ok pip what is the exact file you are trying to install and what is the name you log onto the computer with
[01:28] <Frogzoo> pip_: sudo dpkg --purge pkgname
[01:28] <pip_> Frogzoo, Frogzoo thanks
[01:29] <doms> hellow
[01:29] <toresbe> Frogzoo: I am positive.
[01:29] <kbrooks> toresbe: do ynou have any root access into this computer?
[01:29] <toresbe> avalost: maliciously hacked.
[01:30] <toresbe> My sudo privs have been revoked.
[01:30] <sufa> toresbe has su been enabled?
[01:30] <doms> i install my windows xp, besides my ubuntu box, but the problem is when i reboot my computer i cant select which OS should i select to go through,..
[01:30] <toresbe> As I am in the "adm" group, I am able to view logs. The auth.log shows some incredibly wrongness.
[01:30] <avalost> toresbe: and what leads you to believe this?
[01:30] <avalost> erm I see
[01:30] <avalost> paste the logs in pastebin
[01:31] <toresbe> avalost: the PAM is a mess, and there are signs of an alternative sshd being put into place
[01:31] <avalost> and is your box open to the outside world?
[01:31] <avalost> I see
[01:31] <doms> i install my windows xp, besides my ubuntu box, but the problem is when i reboot my computer i cant select which OS should i select to go through,..       but when i install xp first then second is ubuntu then my grub loader detect another OS!
[01:31] <feydin> hey, is there a command which displays cpu load in %? i want to use it in a script, so "top" does not fit
[01:31] <avalost> so you were running ssh, with multiple logins?
[01:31] <Frogzoo> feydin: indeed 'top' is your friend
[01:32] <toresbe> Just please tell me how I can shut the machine down *now*
[01:32] <Frogzoo> feydin: ah, just a sec
[01:32] <feydin> Frogzoo: hehe
[01:32] <ls> Hello. I am trying to install Ubuntu 5.10 64Bit on a Medion MD97300. The Problem is, that the kernel hangs during boot of the liveCD.
[01:32] <obnibolongo> doms: it's normal, you need to install XP first. I assume there is a work-around to detect XP at a later stage but as I edit my GRUB entries at hand I won't know :)
[01:32] <skpl> does anyone know when flash 8 is expected to arrive for linux/
[01:32] <toresbe> I don't want to debug the problem now. I'm at work.
[01:32] <ls> Anyone expirience with this?
[01:32] <skpl> ?
[01:32] <toresbe> I just want that damn relay inside the PSU to go click so I don't have to worry.
[01:32] <Tommy83a> goomorning people...
[01:32] <toresbe> howdy
[01:32] <avalost> toresbe, pull the plug, unhook the eth0 and re-install
[01:32] <avalost> using better passwords preferably
[01:32] <avalost> and new logins
[01:32] <toresbe> avalost: I don't have physical access.
[01:33] <obnibolongo> doms: it's normal, you need to install XP first. I assume there is a work-around to add Windows XP *if installed after ubuntu* to GRUB menu but as I edit my GRUB entries at hand I won't know :)
[01:33] <avalost> oh I see
[01:33] <eugen> hello
[01:33] <toresbe> now the thing is
[01:33] <doms> oo so bad how about ubuntu box
[01:33] <avalost> toresbe: does who show any other users?
[01:33] <eugen> can anyone help me setup my tv tuner card??
[01:33] <toresbe> I don't have root, so I need it shut down as a regular users.
[01:33] <cirqueduphreak> !grub
[01:33] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:33] <toresbe> avalost: Yes, my girlfriend. But I can't trust w, of course.
[01:34] <toresbe> I don't have root, so I need it shut down as a regular user. Ubuntu can poweroff without sudo, I need to know how it does that
[01:34] <toresbe> and how I can invoke this from the command line
[01:34] <avalost> toresby; halt has not been enabled to normal users?
[01:34] <avalost> 'halt'
[01:34] <sufa> toresbe shutdown -hf now
[01:34] <toresbe> tore@fortran:~$ halt
[01:34] <toresbe> halt: must be superuser.
[01:34] <Aqutavia> bimberi did the system actually restart? or just xserver? because when i did ctrl-alt-bksp it seemed to reboot.. but when faced with same scrabled screen problem and switched to the cli. the last thing it shoed me still exsisted.
[01:35] <doms> coz my xp is crash then i re-install it besides ubuntu box that what happen next i around i cant detect my ubuntu box when booting
[01:35] <toresbe> tore@fortran:~$ shutdown -h now
[01:35] <toresbe> shutdown: you must be root to do that!
[01:35] <ls> Can someone help me with my problem or should I post in the forum?
[01:35] <jadaz87> !help
[01:35] <obnibolongo> doms: ubotu said http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting . go there
[01:35] <sufa> toresbe do you have access to the powersupply
[01:35] <eugen> can anyone help me setup my tv tuner card is a v-stream model with connexant chip set
[01:35] <feydin> Frogzoo: you got an idea?
[01:35] <avalost> and sudo does not work at all
[01:35] <sufa> liek sometimes APC has a web based interface
[01:35] <Hobbsee> ls: what's the problem?
[01:35] <toresbe> sufa: No, I do not have physical access. It is at home, I am at work.
[01:35] <avalost> man, that sucks..
[01:35] <avalost> feh
[01:35] <sufa> oh oh
[01:35] <toresbe> sufa: aha, no, no such luck.
[01:36] <avalost> is anyone at home?
[01:36] <toresbe> no.
[01:36] <GueVaRa> Q: how to use firefox updater??
[01:36] <sufa> toresbe sorry sometimes they have that in datacenters
[01:36] <toresbe> and nobody has keys.
[01:36] <avalost> I see
[01:36] <avalost> drats
[01:36] <toresbe> sufa: yeah. :)
[01:36] <avalost> lunch break maybe?
[01:36] <sufa> where do you live :-P
[01:36] <ls> The kernel does not finish booting (Last message: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0)
[01:36] <toresbe> hehe
[01:36] <Hobbsee> GueVaRa: mozilla binaries, or the package from the repos?
[01:36] <toresbe> ls: That's strange.
[01:36] <sufa> anywhere near australia?
[01:36] <Hobbsee> ls: ack.  no idea
[01:36] <ls> :) Thanks
[01:36] <eugen> can anyone help me setup my tv tuner card is a v-stream model with connexant chip set
[01:36] <toresbe> sufa: Norway. So yeah... uh, I mean no.
[01:36] <Frogzoo> feydin: there's various useful things in /proc    loadavg   cpuinfo    self/stat   self/status  but no %, I'm thinking you'll need to look at what's available & calculate it
[01:36] <sufa> and can you get me a job there
[01:36] <sufa> oh
[01:36] <sufa> :-P
[01:37] <Frogzoo> feydin: if desperate, dl the 'top' source & see what it does
[01:37] <GueVaRa> Hobbsee: just d/l the tar file from firefox site...after extract there is a updater file....tried exec it under terminal...didnt work... :S
[01:37] <bimberi> Aqutavia: did it reboot? you'd see your bios messages etc.
[01:37] <jmibanez> hullo
[01:37] <jadaz87> hello
[01:37] <Hobbsee> GueVaRa: yep, close all of firefox, sudo firefox, then run the updater, then close firefox, open it again normally
[01:38] <eugen> hello can anyone help me setup my tv tuner card is a v-stream model with connexant chip set
[01:38] <feydin> Frogzoo: ok thanks for that :) i got another question, maybe you can help
[01:38] <bimberi> Aqutavia: that would be no good because any reconfiguration won't be kept :/
[01:38] <Aqutavia> bimberi i think i misunderstood you when you told me that ctrl-alt-bksp would reboot.
[01:38] <avalost> toresbe: do you have any hunches on how they gained access?
[01:38] <Aqutavia> im hard booting now.
[01:38] <bimberi> Aqutavia: it should restart X but not reboot
[01:38] <jmibanez> on breezy badger: ehci_hcd dies on resume from software suspend on a fujitsu lifebook c-series, /var/log/syslog and console say 'startup error -19'
[01:38] <GueVaRa> Hobbsee: so under terminal....sudo firefox...then how to run the updater??
[01:38] <jmibanez> any ideas?
[01:38] <kingspawn> toresbe: running ssh port 22?
[01:38] <GueVaRa> sry...1st timer
[01:39] <Hobbsee> GueVaRa: help, check for updates.
[01:39] <eugen> can anyone help me setup my tv tuner card is a v-stream model with connexant chip set Please help me
[01:39] <feydin> Frogzoo: i dont understand how "who" oder "w" works... i want to see who is logged into my machine, but most of the users logged in, are root.... how do i know which user is behind that root login, and on which terminal?
[01:39] <kingspawn> toresbe: can you pastebin your auth.log?
[01:39] <toresbe> kingspawn: how is that relevant?
[01:39] <Frogzoo> jmibanez: iirc usb doesn't support suspend, & the usb driver should be stopped/started for the suspend's duration
[01:39] <kingspawn> toresbe: its just personal interest
[01:40] <GueVaRa> Hobbsee: tried...only check for extension and plugins...didnt update firefox itself..
[01:40] <toresbe> kingspawn: I'll do that noce I'm home.
[01:40] <kingspawn> toresbe: I have just half-read your problem. You have been hacked?
[01:40] <kingspawn> toresbe: and lost sudo rights?
[01:40] <jmibanez> Frogzoo, it's on the blacklist, the driver is unloaded
[01:40] <Hobbsee> GueVaRa: what version of firefox does it show?
[01:40] <eugen> can anyone help me setup my tv tuner card is a v-stream model with connexant chip set
[01:40] <GueVaRa> Hobbsee: i got the tarball file...where should i extract it??
[01:40] <avalost> kingspawn: thats the rumor..
[01:40] <avalost> eep
[01:40] <toresbe> kingspawn: yup
[01:40] <Hobbsee> !tell GueVaRa about firefox1.5
[01:41] <GueVaRa> Hobbsee: now i have 1.0.8....want to update to <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:41] <eugen> !tell eugen about tv tuner
[01:41] <Hobbsee> GueVaRa: see your private messages
[01:41] <Fracture> !tell Fracture about tv tuner
[01:41] <eugen>  can anyone help me setup my tv tuner card is a v-stream model with connexant chip set
[01:41] <Frogzoo> feydin: they should both show a tty or an ip
[01:42] <feydin> Frogzoo: they dont... maybe this is a screen issue?
[01:42] <feydin> Frogzoo: all connected to the same screen session
[01:42] <kingspawn> toresbe: well, then the auth.log might be of interest. well, what are you trying to do? re-enable sudo?
[01:43] <GueVaRa> Hobbsee: GREAT thx!!!
[01:44] <kbrooks> Fracture: msg the bot
[01:44] <kbrooks> Fracture: /msg ubotu  ...
[01:44] <doms> soooooooo huge reading about grub only what i nid to detect my ubuntu box after i install my xp
[01:44] <eugen> does anyone know how to make a tv tuner work on ubuntu?
[01:44] <Fracture> kbrooks: thanks.  the bot can't help :(
[01:45] <Fracture> eugen: i'm having the same problem :(
[01:45] <Hobbsee> !tell doms about grub
[01:46] <Hobbsee> doms: second link
[01:46] <GueVaRa> Hobbsee: tried to run "sudo apt -get install libstdc++5".....sys return "sudo: apt: command not found"????
[01:47] <doms> is their something a executable file so that i can install it under my xp to repair my grub boot loader?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> no space between apt and -get
[01:47] <Fracture> I can't even manage to get a dvb device to come up
[01:47] <GueVaRa> oh..lol
[01:47] <eugen> Fracture i love ubuntu but i really need my tv tuner :D
[01:47] <Fracture> eugen: yeah . I love ubuntu too
[01:47] <eugen> Fracture what kind of card do u have??
[01:47] <Fracture> eugen: though I can always walk next door to watch tv ;)
[01:47] <Fracture> eugen: avermedia dvb-t 777
[01:48] <eugen> how ca i see whay card do i have?
[01:48] <Frogzoo> feydin: then they're local I'd imagine
[01:48] <Fracture> eugen: lspci
[01:48] <ompaul> !tell eugen about mythtv
[01:48] <Fracture> eugen: lspci -v (for verbose)
[01:49] <ompaul> !tell Fracture  about mythtv
[01:49] <eugen> Fracture what? where do i type that in the terminal?
[01:49] <Fracture> eugen: yep
[01:49] <eugen> ok
[01:49] <Fracture> eugen: it shows you your pci devices
[01:49] <intuos_pen> anyone knows a fix on XFCE4 on breezy? the problem is xfce4 desktop isn't functioning well because the wallpaper/color isn't showing and the menu won't appear on right click.
[01:49] <steveb> can anyone tell me where the list of lib paths are?
[01:49] <steveb> or how to set new ones?
[01:49] <intuos_pen> XFCE4 was installed using "apt-get install xubuntu desktop'
[01:50] <intuos_pen> help. :)
[01:50] <doms> mbr sooooooo stupid
[01:50] <doms> i cant run anymore my ubuntu box after in installing windows xo
[01:50] <AnAnt> how can I disable tap-to-click for my ALPS touchpad ?
[01:50] <ompaul> Fracture, so does that web page say anything about that?
[01:50] <AnAnt> I tried MaxTapTime=0
[01:50] <AnAnt> but it wont work
[01:51] <kingspawn> doms: youll need to get grub back, perhaps by way of booting onto a livecd
[01:51] <Fracture> ompaul: well.. i've tried many hours to find out how to get it to work.. without any luck
[01:51] <Hobbsee> doms: see your private messages
[01:52] <ompaul> Fracture, sorry don't have any more info - must find someone with the knowledge to do it :-/
[01:52] <doms> booting in live cd
[01:52] <doms> you i nid to install live cd
[01:52] <doms> you mean i nid to install live cd
[01:54] <kingspawn> doms: you installed windows and it overwrote your mbr, correct?
[01:54] <eugen>  Fracture me too :((
[01:54] <Fracture> eugen: its really hard :L(
[01:54] <eugen> god damn the tv tuners
[01:55] <tom> the dapper-beta desktop CD hangs when booting. it displays: "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel."
[01:56] <tom> why does it hang?
[01:57] <eugen> ok i`m tiered bye bye
[01:57] <Fracture> The bit I don't know is how to find firmware for the card
[01:59] <hesemes> hi
[01:59] <bliss1_> hello
[01:59] <HymnToLife> tom > because it's a beta :) go back to Breezy
[01:59] <doms> i'am screwed
[01:59] <bliss1_> what is the command to remove from apt-cache/? its not remove or purge
[02:00] <soundray> bliss1_: clean / autoclean
[02:00] <bliss1_> soundray: thanks for that I willgive it a tey
[02:01] <bliss1_> try
[02:03] <bliss1_> soundray: its saying they are both invaild operation
[02:04] <doms> kingspawn yes its overwritten
[02:04] <Salazar> bonjour
[02:04] <tom> HymnToLife: well it should boot anyway
[02:05] <doms> do you have an idea how d-i successfully recover it
[02:05] <kingspawn> doms: then you get a live cd, boot into it, and use grub to set it up correctly again
[02:05] <soundray> bliss1_: the full syntax is 'sudo apt-get autoclean' (you can replace autoclean with clean if you want to empty the cache completely)
[02:05] <doms> ooo thats it
[02:05] <tom> HymnToLife: it hangs in "adding live cd user" and then it displays "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel."
[02:05] <jadaz87> hello anyone i was wondering if there are irc bots in the ubuntu repos?
[02:06] <doms> after repairing grub to i pursue installing live cd
[02:06] <raid> hey all, I need some help with ubuntu for amd 64 installation, it freezes on acpi-suppor installation
[02:06] <raid> anyone can help me with this?
[02:06] <pip_> how to find a package I installed in the past ?
[02:06] <soundray> jadaz87: bots in the repos? You would hope not.
[02:06] <doms> raid you need to install 64 architecture
[02:06] <jadaz87> soundray i mean to install
[02:07] <raid> doms i know, i did
[02:07] <soundray> jadaz87: I see. Try apt-cache search irc bot
[02:07] <raid> doms it just frezzes on 71% when it installs acpi-support libraries
[02:07] <doms> and cant continue
[02:08] <doms> is your partition is healthy
[02:08] <raid> yeah
[02:08] <pip_> how to find a package installed in the past?
[02:08] <doms> your sure
[02:08] <doms> try re-installing
[02:08] <raid> i already did several times
[02:09] <raid> like 4 or 5 times
[02:09] <doms> oo
[02:09] <pip_> no one help me ?
[02:09] <raid> problems comes up with 32 bit distro too
[02:09] <doms> i think their something major problem on that
[02:09] <kingspawn> raid: boot with acpi turned off
[02:09] <bliss1_> soundray; thanks
[02:09] <raid> kingspawn: installation is the problem, not the boot
[02:10] <ompaul> raid look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[02:10] <kingspawn> raid: yes, i am talking about installation. at the boot: prompt, type linux acpi=off noapic nolapic
[02:10] <raid> is it possible to install without installing acpi-suppor libraries?
[02:10] <pip_> how to find installed package ?
[02:10] <doms> raid try some advance parameters for installation
[02:10] <soundray> raid: listen to kingspawn
[02:10] <raid> i?m not that advanced user
[02:10] <kingspawn> raid: I just told you
[02:11] <doms> ahhhh
[02:11] <doms> just install for server
[02:11] <ompaul> raid, 5.10 or dapper?
[02:11] <raid> how do i get promp on installation progress
[02:11] <doms> aftwards reconfigure to Dekstop environment
[02:11] <raid> 5.10
[02:11] <eugen> how can i make my games work on ubuntu for example warcraft frozen throne.exe
[02:11] <doms> cedega
[02:12] <doms> cedega is good for warcraft
[02:12] <Frogzoo> !tell eugen about wine
[02:12] <RobyX> Guy's this is my first time on a linux program and installing a second OS. Does anyone know how to make Ubuntu the default boot and remove WinXP entirely? because when I restart it will just go back to xp agian.. and I Have to install Ubuntu again
[02:12] <ompaul> raid, as the machine starts to boot it pauses for a moment and says press enter or enter peramiters what kingspan said
[02:12] <Frogzoo> cedega is crap
[02:12] <raid> ohh ok roger that
[02:12] <ompaul> raid, kingspawn raid: yes, i am talking about installation. at the boot: prompt, type linux acpi=off noapic nolapic
[02:12] <ompaul> Frogzoo, you meant rubbish did you not :-)
[02:12] <roaet> dsad
[02:12] <raid> guys u all the best thx all
[02:13] <_jason> RobyX: can you press ESC when you boot to get to the grub menu?
[02:13] <raid> thx!
[02:13] <Frogzoo> ompaul: I won't say more ;)
[02:13] <doms> why is it scpi is built in for 64 machines
[02:13] <RobyX> I havent tried
[02:13] <RobyX> But im scared to log off again if it doesent work i have to install this linux again lol
[02:13] <doms> why is it acpi is built in 64 architecture for 64 machines
[02:13] <soundray> Frogzoo: I saw a forum post about OpenWrt by a frogzoo -- is that you?
[02:14] <_jason> ok anyone know how we could check that RobyX is using grub as his bootloader?
[02:14] <Gorax> question: has anybody else had issues with gksudo not starting the apps it's meant to start for 5-10 mins?
[02:15] <kingspawn> _jason: from inside windows?
[02:15] <_jason> kingspawn: he is in ubuntu now I believe
[02:15] <doms> why is some of my computers which i installed ubuntu architecture but works slowly specially when i open openoffice write it took 15 minutes to open? anybody can configure out...........
[02:16] <RobyX> I am using Ubuntu right now, but if I restart it will go back to WInXP by default
[02:16] <b08y> does any one know, what had happend with the "human" icon theme, my on gets brocken after updating
[02:16] <RobyX> I Dont want WInxp on my computer at all so it goes into Ubuntu each restart
[02:16] <raphael> can anyone help me with synce on my pocketpc? it seems I can`t make and INDEX
[02:16] <kingspawn> _jason: okay, well, fdisk /device -> hit x, then d, look at 0x000
[02:16] <soundray> doms: perhaps you have too little RAM on those machines.
[02:16] <kingspawn> _jason: if 0x000 is EB 48 90, we are using grub
[02:17] <raid> hey kingspawn i get this at prompt Could not find kernel image: acpi=off
[02:17] <RobyX> As I said this is my first time using LInux, I Dont even know how to do all that stuff jason but I can learn after I make this my default boot =/
[02:17] <doms> i hav 128 memory
[02:17] <doms> is that enough
[02:17] <_jason> kingspawn: thanks, I'll walk him through that
[02:17] <kingspawn> raid: try just removing acpi=off, and boot with the other two
[02:17] <kingspawn> _jason: goodie
[02:18] <raid> ok
[02:18] <_jason> RobyX: ok open up a terminal, applications > accessories > terminal
[02:18] <RobyX> Ok just did
[02:18] <_jason> RobyX: now, do you have only one hard drive?
[02:19] <raid> kingspawn:same feedback
[02:19] <RobyX> Yeah
[02:19] <AnAnt> how can I change the font used for a certain language ?
[02:19] <VisezTrance> how can i configure the internet connection in ubuntu ?
[02:19] <_jason> RobyX: ok, now type this: sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[02:19] <doms> why is some of my computers which i installed ubuntu architecture but works slowly specially when i open openoffice write it took 15 minutes to open? anybody can configure out...........
[02:19] <Hoxzer> how can I find out witch Repos are not working?
[02:20] <kingspawn> _radius: wh, are you typing linux in front of those two?
[02:20] <RobyX> OK just did
[02:20] <codecaine> is there a rispirtory to auto update firefox
[02:20] <kingspawn> raid: like "linux acpi=off ..."
[02:20] <_jason> RobyX: now enter x and then d, and read off the first 3 values on 0x000: (you may have to scroll up)
[02:20] <doms> synaptic is best for you
[02:20] <lab3linux> rei
[02:21] <raid> kingspawn: is there a place where i can go check these options at boot time?
[02:21] <codecaine> not updated in there
[02:21] <RobyX>  33 C0 8E
[02:21] <raid> kingspawn: i got it
[02:21] <kingspawn> raid: nice :)
[02:22] <pindahoonmain> which is the best rss reader for ubuntu/gnome?
[02:22] <_jason> RobyX: ok, that means grub isn't being used.  I am going to have the bot send you a guide on reinstalling grub.  If anything is unclear just come in here and ask the channel.  You want the ``restoring grub after installing windows'' link
[02:22] <VisezTrance> how can i configure the network settings in ubuntu.... ?
[02:22] <_jason> ubotu: tell RobyX about grub
[02:22] <montbazin> hi everybody, what command will tell me what processor is and how much ram memory is on my machine, thanks
[02:22] <_jason> ubotu: test
[02:22] <truz24> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:22] <truz24> cat /proc/meminfo
[02:22] <raid> kingspawn: i just wrote linux acpi=off u say i should've wrote other two commands too?
[02:23] <truz24> that was for you montbazin
[02:23] <doms> our school laboratory is fully installed ubuntu architecture, but it works to slow,, why when i open openoffice it took 15 minutes to open, i hav 128 ram, 1 ghz processor
[02:23] <soundray> doms: 128 MB RAM is definitely not enough to run OpenOffice reasonably fast.
[02:23] <_jason> RobyX: ubotu seems to be sleeping, here is the link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:23] <RobyX> Thanks.
[02:23] <montbazin> thanx truz24
[02:24] <_jason> RobyX: before you go, if you have problems, there is no need to reinstall ubuntu, just come in here from windows
[02:24] <luke> do u think my box is more likely to be comprimised under XP or Ubuntu?
[02:24] <doms> 128 ram why is in my windows machine it works fine
[02:24] <ubotu> Crashed.
[02:24] <kingspawn> raid: yes
[02:24] <slackern> shouldn't take 15 minutes to start openoffice with 128Mb though.
[02:24] <doms> not like openoffice for almost 15 minutes
[02:24] <doms> greeeeeeeeeeee
[02:24] <RobyX> Alright
[02:24] <soundray> doms: were you running Openoffice on windows?
[02:24] <raid> kingspawn: roger
[02:24] <RobyX> I can cope under windows much better then this thing atm..
[02:24] <doms> nope
[02:24] <kingspawn> raid: roger, roger
[02:25] <pindahoonmain> which is the best rss reader on the  gnome desktop
[02:25] <raid> what where the 2 others commands lol?
[02:25] <doms> in ubuntu machine, we have 15 computers in lab, which fully installed ubuntu architecture
[02:25] <doms> those 15 pc works slow
[02:25] <doms> when opening a openoffice
[02:26] <kingspawn> raid: noapic nolapic
[02:26] <doms> for 15 students
[02:26] <_jason> pindahoonmain: I like liferea
[02:26] <ompaul> doms, the right thing to do there is to test a more ram situation
[02:27] <kingspawn> doms: openoffice is bloated, get something else
[02:27] <steveb> how can i add lib paths to ubuntu? i just compilied the latest version of mythtv (which isnt in the repositories) and it cant find the libmythtv librarys
[02:27] <montbazin> truz24, Iv checked "cat /proc/meminfo" great, telle me what I wabted, but how can I see what my processor is ?
[02:27] <doms> those 15 pc has thesame ram 128 mb
[02:27] <pindahoonmain> thank you _jason
[02:27] <steveb> they are in /usr/local/lib but i cant work out how to get ubuntu to search there
[02:27] <truz24> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:27] <montbazin> truz24, sorry for my typing errors
[02:27] <ompaul> doms, you really should get 512 megs of ram for that monster - what CPU have you got
[02:28] <soundray> kingspawn: hey, the word is "feature-rich" ;)
[02:28] <montbazin> truz24, thanks
[02:28] <doms> not that rich our school
[02:28] <doms> to buy more ram
[02:28] <ompaul> doms, to prove this get simms from a couple of the computers and add it to one box and then you will see the improvement
[02:29] <ompaul> doms, the other option is to have one Big Server (as much and can be afforded) and have it serve open office across the wire
[02:29] <luke> h4kz al3rt
[02:29] <doms> ooo
[02:30] <pindahoonmain> liferea doesn't seem to be available through synaptic
[02:30] <_jason> !info liferea
[02:30] <ubotu> liferea: (feed aggregator for GNOME), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.7b-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 459 kB, Installed size: 1612 kB
[02:30] <_jason> ubotu: tell pindahoonmain about universe
[02:30] <pip_> how to format my USB disk ?
[02:30] <ompaul> luke, I can read that now what would you like to discuss
[02:30] <doms> you mean i nid to install a openoffice on server the walk thru to the client
[02:30] <soundray> What can one do if /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty? I'd like to read my board temperature.
[02:30] <_jason> pip_: you can use gparted
[02:30] <pip_> _jason, what is it ?
[02:31] <luke> ompaul, i got rooted
[02:31] <ompaul> doms, as long ias it has lots of ram and a good processor why not
[02:31] <pindahoonmain> oh okay
[02:31] <doms> ok
[02:31] <kingspawn> soundray: feature-rich... hehe, nice ;)
[02:31] <Rudemeister> me got a problem compiling something:
[02:31] <Rudemeister> checking size of off_t... configure: error: Unsupported off_t size
[02:31] <ompaul> luke, and you did this how?
[02:31] <_jason> gparted (1)          - a graphical partitioning tool
[02:31] <Rudemeister> what does it mean
[02:31] <kingspawn> Rudemeister: what are you compiling?
[02:31] <ompaul> doms, in fact nx it out to all the desktops or somesuch
[02:31] <luke> ompaul, i gave someone a shell to help me fix a problem and they installed a rootkit
[02:32] <soundray> kingspawn: "exhaustive capabilities" is also accurate.
[02:32] <doms> but in my home i hav a pc an installed also a ubuntu architecture with the same ram and it work faster thatn our laboratory
[02:32] <Rudemeister> kingspawn: irssi
[02:32] <kingspawn> Rudemeister: do you strictly need to compile?
[02:32] <kingspawn> soundray: hahah, excellent
[02:32] <ompaul> luke, you will not do that again in a hurry, you now can't trust anytying on that machine - install from a clean source and start again
[02:32] <Rudemeister> kingspawn: yes, its _not_ on my ubuntu box
[02:32] <soundray> doms: when you have too little RAM for an app, Ubuntu will start using virtual memory on hard disk. Your hard disk speed then determines how fast the app runs.
[02:33] <kingspawn> Rudemeister: where is it? and we'll need a bit more meat on the error-bone
[02:33] <luke> ompaul, im going to plan my revenge now
[02:33] <Rudemeister> kingspawn: well, that's the only error, when compiling (actually, the ./configure part) on a hp-ux box..
[02:33] <ompaul> luke, well that is not the right thing to do it wastes energy, go reinstall and count it as the best lesson you ever learnt,
[02:34] <doms> i dunno
[02:34] <ompaul> luke, back up your personal data first
[02:34] <kingspawn> Rudemeister: well, seems like you need to get down and dirty, trying to find out what this off_t is defined as
[02:34] <luke> ompaul, you're prolly right. its just i only installed this distro today and now i have to reinstall it already.. gah
[02:34] <kingspawn> luke: dont give people shells :)
[02:34] <skpl> can someone help me? my speakers are spitting out static instead of sound
[02:35] <soundray> luke: that's much better than having to erase an installation with heavy customization.
[02:35] <Rudemeister> kingspawn: true , I am already swimming in the Makefile:)
[02:35] <luke> true
[02:35] <kingspawn> Rudemeister: won't find it there, which file is it compiling when the error occurs? likely its in there/headers it includes
[02:35] <Frogzoo> skpl: apps -> sound -> volume control - look for mutes - on both sound card & mixer devices
[02:35] <pindahoonmain> !info liferea
[02:35] <ubotu> liferea: (feed aggregator for GNOME), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.7b-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 459 kB, Installed size: 1612 kB
[02:35] <codecaine> anybody has troubles sharing files with windows xp using samba share folder in ubuntu 5.10
[02:35] <skpl> why would i want to mute my sound?
[02:36] <[nige] > anyone know how to send hostname information to a dhcp server?
[02:36] <luke> ompaul, kingspawn, soundray, im looking into locking down my box now. i installed Bastille and removed all daemons except SSH, is there anything else I should consider?
[02:36] <Rudemeister> kingspawn: got this:
[02:36] <ompaul> luke, just a normal installation and don't give shells
[02:36] <skpl> is there a utility to manage partitions from within gnome?
[02:36] <RobyX> Wait how do I know where my root partion is? says here to type "$ grub-install /dev/hdaX" and X being the root but how do I Find that?
[02:37] <kingspawn> luke: well, dont go overboard. I also recommend you change ssh port to something other than 22
[02:37] <ompaul> luke, bastille is a tad over the top I would only suggest it if you have some crazy exposed server on the internet
[02:37] <hyphenated> RobyX: type in 'mount' and read the first line of output
[02:37] <luke> kingspawn, will do that now
[02:37] <ompaul> luke, not even a default webserver
[02:37] <soundray> luke, I'd say well done. If you want an even more secure machine now, you have to pull the network cable ;)
[02:37] <RobyX> Thanks
[02:37] <ompaul> kingspawn, security through obsecurity
[02:37] <skpl> can someone recommened a good program for managing partitions?
[02:37] <vmware> !version
[02:37] <luke> alright thanks guys, you rock :)
[02:38] <soundray> skpl: gparted?
[02:38] <vmware> !version
[02:38] <Rudemeister> ehm
[02:38] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type 'lsb_release -a' or 'cat /etc/issue' in a terminal.
[02:38] <kingspawn> ompaul: its not security as such, it is simply an easy way of routing out all those script-people
[02:38] <vmware> !update
[02:38] <ompaul> kingspawn, saying like that you get away with it :-)
[02:38] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vmware
[02:39] <kingspawn> ompaul: :)
[02:39] <vmware> !gnome
[02:39] <Frogzoo> codecaine: none at all - have you set your workgroup in /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[02:39] <kingspawn> vmware: just message the bot, you'll get private sessions
[02:39] <vmware> nah! I was thinink of updating gnome
[02:40] <vmware> *thinking
[02:40] <luke> kingspawn, do you know where the openssh config file is?
[02:40] <ompaul> kingspawn, I am a great beliver in default (sendmail 1.0) :-/
[02:40] <kingspawn> luke: /etc/sshd/sshd_config
[02:40] <kingspawn> ompaul: hehe :)
[02:41] <vmware> Is it like possibe to upgrade gnome to 2.14?
[02:41] <soundray> luke: try dpkg -L packagename the next time.
[02:41] <soundray> vmware: sure, just upgrade to dapper (beta software, not for production machines, blah...)
[02:42] <ompaul> vmware, its on dapper you could consider a backport but it needs to take so much stuff with it I would say if you reallllllly need it and the box is not production then think about dapper if you don't I would not suggest it
[02:42] <luke> kingspawn, do you mean /etc/ssh/ssh_config? sshd doesnt exist
[02:42] <kingspawn> luke: sorry, just typing a bit fast
[02:42] <luke> soundray, dpkg -L openssh doesnt work. do you know what the package name is?
[02:42] <luke> kingspawn, "# This is the ssh client system-wide configuration file."
[02:42] <soundray> luke: openssh-server. That also answers your question to kingspawn ;)
[02:42] <rohan007> join #python
[02:43] <luke> ah ty
[02:43] <kingspawn> ah, confusion is me
[02:43] <kingspawn> i thought you had the server installed
[02:43] <soundray> rohan007: start that line with a slash (/)
[02:43] <vmware> do I use apt-get or dpkg?
[02:43] <luke> kingspawn, im pretty sure its openSSH, there is some kind of daemon installed
[02:43] <soundray> vmware: to upgrade to dapper?
[02:44] <pindahoonmain> thanx _jason,installed liferea, looks good
[02:45] <vmware> soundray, yeh!
[02:45] <vmware> Not used to debain yeet
[02:45] <montbazin> please how can i read mp3 files ?
[02:45] <raphael> does anybody know how I can free an INDEX slot on a pocketpc?
[02:45] <vmware> !dapper
[02:45] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[02:45] <kingspawn> !restrictedformats
[02:45] <luke> kingspawn, ok, found it. /etc/ssh/sshd_config hehe :P
[02:45] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:45] <kingspawn> montbazin: read ubotu on restrictedformats
[02:46] <vmware> ;-(
[02:46] <kingspawn> luke: right'o
[02:46] <soundray> vmware, best if you join #ubuntu+1 and get advice there.
[02:46] <Rudemeister> kingspawn: it seems to go wrong the the --with-file-offset-size option
[02:46] <b08y> help, my "human" icon theme get broken after updating, now i have a mix of human and blue tango
[02:47] <b08y> after updating, yesterday
[02:47] <montbazin> kingspawn , thanks, i'll do that
[02:47] <soundray> b08y: that should be a fairly unique look and feel...
[02:47] <ompaul> b08y, u using dapper?
[02:47] <doms> but in my home i hav a pc an installed also a ubuntu architecture with the same ram and it work faster thatn our laboratory
[02:48] <_jason> yesterday I had my keyboard become completely unresponsive, I could move my mouse, but it seemed like a ctrl-key or something was stuck because I couldn't get to the gnome menu.  I ended up pressing my power button and the computer shut down that way.  At that point, is there anything else I can do?
[02:48] <kingspawn> Rudemeister: tried the easy way out and just disabling it? ;)
[02:48] <pianoboy3333> What is the version of evolution packaged with dapper?
[02:48] <_jason> pianoboy3333: #ubuntu+1 for dapper please
[02:48] <kingspawn> _jason: click shut down with the mouse? :)
[02:48] <hyphenated> pianoboy3333: #ubuntu+1 and packages.ubuntu.com
[02:48] <Rudemeister> kingspawn: I thought I did but dont really know how
[02:48] <pianoboy3333> I'm banned from #ubuntu+1 for some reason...
[02:48] <ompaul> doms, different packages CPU or some such
[02:49] <doms> maybe
[02:49] <kingspawn> Rudemeister: This is an option passed to gcc via Makefile?
[02:49] <_jason> kingspawn: maybe I'll add some weird 4 button mouse combo to xbindkeys that shuts down the pc
[02:49] <pianoboy3333> _jason: \I _wish_ I could ask there
[02:49] <_jason> pianoboy3333: why can't you?
[02:49] <b08y> ompaul: jeah im using dapper
[02:49] <doms> i think also the processor
[02:49] <kingspawn> jaso1: did you try just unplugging the keyboard?
[02:49] <pianoboy3333> _jason: me is banned
[02:49] <_jason> kingspawn: laptop
[02:49] <pianoboy3333> I don't know why though
[02:49] <luke> ok noob question, but i did look in man/wiki for it so anyway... how do I go about modifying the processes that startup from cli?
[02:49] <ompaul> b08y, please ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:49] <doms> what is minum requirement of ubuntu
[02:49] <b08y> ompaul: i had dapper, and after simple updating ist change my icons
[02:49] <kingspawn> _jason: oh :) might be some wild acpi-issue
[02:50] <b08y> ompaul: oki
[02:50] <Frogzoo> !tell codecaine about ff1.5
[02:50] <kingspawn> luke: you can install a tool called bum
[02:50] <arrick> Morning everybody
[02:50] <kingspawn> luke: or go nuts in /etc/rc.d etc, but go for bum
[02:50] <Rudemeister> kingspawn: merely an option given to configure
[02:50] <luke> kingspawn, /etc/rd.local looks nasty - i think ill get bum. ty
[02:50] <secureboot> once you've already created a printer - how can you modify its settings?
[02:51] <lukiinhas_> hi
[02:51] <_jason> pianoboy3333: /msg ubotu evolution dapper
[02:51] <_jason> pianoboy3333: /msg ubotu info evolution dapper
[02:51] <luke> anyway time to reinstall OS, cya in an hour or so guys
[02:51] <pindahoonmain> how to check memory allocated to a running process
[02:51] <kingspawn> luke: good luck
[02:51] <lukiinhas_> does anybody knows how to  use a dlink 210 on ubuntu?
[02:51] <Frogzoo> pindahoonmain: ps -al |grep procname
[02:51] <Sonderblade> have anyone gotten fai to work on ubuntu?
[02:51] <MetaMorfoziS> i hasn't got sound!
[02:51] <lukiinhas_> that sux usb modem...
[02:52] <MetaMorfoziS> please help me this is new problem
[02:52] <MetaMorfoziS> before this, it has wake up hardly, but works after 1-20seconds
[02:52] <doms> install alsa
[02:52] <doms> configure it
[02:52] <MetaMorfoziS> i has alsa i think
[02:52] <MetaMorfoziS> apt-get said it's the newest
[02:52] <doms> some plug-in for it
[02:52] <doms> unmute
[02:52] <MetaMorfoziS> what?
[02:53] <doms> try OSD
[02:53] <MetaMorfoziS> osd is a sound ser er like alsa?
[02:53] <kingspawn> off work now, going home. bbl.
[02:54] <pindahoonmain> Frogzoo: that's showing mem usage for the process started in that terminal?What about process started in other terminals or from menus?
[02:54] <pip_> After I have copied a file into my USB disk ,but I opened the USB disk again,I cant find the file
[02:54] <_jason> pianoboy3333: try entering #ubuntu+1 now
[02:54] <kingspawn> pip_: type sync before you umount it
[02:54] <RobyX> When I typed in mount, I got /dev/mapper/casper, is that my root? because when I install grub it tells me to put this  type $ grub-install /dev/hdaX where X is your Ubuntu root install.
[02:54] <RobyX> Still dont know exactly what to put in the X.
[02:55] <Hobbsee> pianoboy3333: it should be okay now...
[02:55] <pip_> kingspawn, so it is not my USB 's problem ?
[02:55] <MetaMorfoziS> doms: what i need to install?
[02:55] <Hobbsee> sorry about my screw up.
[02:55] <_jason> RobyX: when you type 'mount' does it say '/dev/hdaX on / type...' ?
[02:55] <kingspawn> RobyX: type: mount | grep '/ type'
[02:55] <kingspawn> pip_: nope
[02:55] <pianoboy3333> _jason: thank you
[02:56] <Frogzoo> pindahoonmain: either try 'top' or 'ps aux'
[02:56] <RobyX> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot on / type auto (rw,noatime)
[02:56] <RobyX> That's what it says when I put that.
[02:56] <pip_> kingspawn, just type sync ?
[02:56] <kingspawn> pip_: yes
[02:56] <kingspawn> i really gtg
[02:57] <MetaMorfoziS> okay it get worked
[02:57] <pip_> kingspawn, then evrytime should I do that ?
[02:57] <MetaMorfoziS> i dunno why
[02:57] <MetaMorfoziS> !nvidia
[02:57] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:58] <MetaMorfoziS> i need the latest, newest nvidia driver
[02:58] <_jason> RobyX: are you using a livecd now?
[02:58] <MetaMorfoziS> where i found a howto that helps me to install it?
[02:58] <doms> were i can locate my cache packages
[02:58] <RobyX> Yeah
[02:58] <doms> were i can locate my cache packages  in my filesystem
[02:58] <pip_> kingspawn, no ,I tried ,didnot work either.
[02:58] <_jason> RobyX: but you did install ubuntu right?
[02:59] <pindahoonmain> thanx frogzoo
[02:59] <RobyX> All I know is I downloaded ubuntu5.10livecd.iso and burned it and installed it
[02:59] <pip_> kingspawn, after I have copied a file to usbdisk ,I typed sync and umount the disk ,and mount it again ,and found none in it
[02:59] <RobyX> Now im using Ubuntu trying to figure out how to make it boot by default instead of XP.
[03:00] <gfx> hello...
[03:00] <_jason> RobyX: ah, the livecd just loads ubuntu from the cdrom, it is a sort of preview.  What you want to download, is the install cd
[03:00] <pip_> kingspawn, how to format USBdisk ?
[03:00] <gfx> can someone help me find an apt-repository that has the latest unstable bitlbee?
[03:00] <gfx> for ubuntu
[03:00] <kkathman> RobyX: you are dual booting Ubuntu with XP ?
[03:00] <RobyX> Yeah
[03:00] <RobyX> I want to get rid of XP and just have ubuntu on this machine
[03:01] <kkathman> to get it to autoboot - just move ubuntu to the top of the grub
[03:01] <kkathman> if thats what you used that is
[03:01] <RobyX> well im trying to install grub right now lol
[03:01] <kkathman> ahh ok
[03:01] <_jason> RobyX: you don't have ubuntu installed if you didn't use thte install cd
[03:01] <kkathman> it should have been loaded when you installed ubuntu
[03:02] <RobyX> So.. livecd is just a preview?
[03:02] <_jason> RobyX: yes
[03:02] <soundray> What does it mean if /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty? Something wrong or just my sensors unsupported?
[03:02] <FabParmaITA> I would like to create gateway for a LAN that works as proxy or proxy chain to protect the lan privacy. Have you idea if there is something like that aroun the world? ;)
[03:03] <Frogzoo> soundray: does /proc/acpi exist?
[03:03] <pindahoonmain> any real time graphical representation of memory and cpu usage of processes?
[03:04] <RobyX> Luckily I have the install cd as well, im going to go on winxp and burn that then install it
[03:04] <soundray> Frogzoo: yes. thermal.ko is loaded, too, I've checked.
[03:04] <RobyX> be back in a bit
[03:04] <montbazin> kingspawn, great, mp3 works fine
[03:04] <cafuego> pindahoonmain: I think SGI opened up PCP, dunno how well it integrates into linux yet
[03:04] <Boglizk> How do i make the cmd 'javac' work, insted of typing '/home/boglizk/jdk1.5.0_06/bin/javac javafile.java' each time i want to compile?
[03:04] <Frogzoo> soundray: run 'sudo sensors-detect' & see if you need to add something in /etc/modules
[03:05] <gfx> can someone help me find an apt-repository that has the latest unstable bitlbee?
[03:05] <Boglizk> :(
[03:06] <Frogzoo> gfx: google?
[03:06] <gfx> i wouldn't be here if i had success on google
[03:06] <gfx> i've been searching the whole time i've been here
[03:06] <_jason> Boglizk: make a symlink to that somewhere in your PATH
[03:07] <_jason> Boglizk: but even better would be to install java properly using a .deb
[03:07] <pindahoonmain> Boglizk:have a look at http://tabreziqbal.wordpress.com/2006/04/01/java-15-and-eclipse-in-gentoo-part-ii/
[03:07] <pindahoonmain> it applies to ubuntu
[03:07] <montbazin> I'm on a "Cisco" wired rooter connecting 3 computers to my dsl line. A PC, a Mac and my Ubuntu - how can y read the desctops of each computer knowing the IP address of each of them?
[03:07] <Boglizk> thanks guys
[03:07] <soundray> Frogzoo: it just finds fan sensors, none for the temperature apparently.
[03:08] <gfx> what does "dapper" refer to?
[03:08] <_jason> !dapper
[03:08] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[03:08] <gfx> ah
[03:09] <cafuego> !dict dapper
[03:09] <ubotu> Dictionary 'dapper' marked by smartness in dress and manners; "a dapper young man"; "a jaunty red hat"
[03:10] <_jason> cafuego: when I ask ubotu to define eft, it takes him like 10 minutes, other words seem instant (or so it was a couple of days ago)
[03:10] <Frogzoo> soundray: you might get lucky: http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/supported.html
[03:10] <cafuego> _jason: Depends on how fast the dictionary server is, eh?
[03:10] <ubuntu> heeeej
[03:10] <ubuntu> how are you?
[03:11] <_jason> cafuego: ah I see
[03:11] <ubuntu> is anybody here? Hey, Neo, are you there?
[03:11] <cafuego> ubuntu: watnou?
[03:11] <ubuntu> jabadabadooooo
[03:11] <afd_> hi! I'm using dapper and I can't find xine or mplayer in the repos. I have multiverse and universe enabled, and run apt-get update. Any clues?
[03:11] <Frogzoo> ubuntu: you again?
[03:11] <cafuego> !info mplayer dapper
[03:11] <ubuntu> I love this
[03:11] <ubotu> mplayer: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu6 (dapper), Packaged size: 3264 kB, Installed size: 7912 kB
[03:11] <cafuego> afd_: Nevertheless, it's there.
[03:11] <_jason> afd_: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper help
[03:11] <ubuntu> Frogzooo: who are you? you have escaped from the zoo?
[03:12] <ubuntu> just kidding
[03:12] <ubuntu> ok by
[03:12] <ubuntu> bye
[03:12] <afd_> cafuego: weird, I'll check again, I was looking under multimedia