[04:09] <brenner> Quinn: which install did you follow?  repo, ati.com drivers, or seveas' deb?
[04:09] <IdleOne> ok
[04:09] <Quinn> Yeah i did
[04:09] <nmsa> do I need a diff kernel then i386 for WiFi?  i686? or not ?
[04:10] <Quinn> I tyed the ATi.com first
[04:10] <ttread> salah at this point I can just refer you to the wiki and Google
[04:10] <Quinn> and it crashed at 100%
[04:10] <Quinn> and nothing happend after
[04:10] <Quinn> I still have ATi Control panal there
[04:10] <phiber_optic> _jason
[04:10] <phiber_optic> ?
[04:10] <brenner> Quinn: did you use the run file to install, or use it to create debs as the wiki says?
[04:10] <_jason> phiber_optic: does it play now?
[04:10] <phiber_optic> noop[
[04:10] <phiber_optic> it was installed before
[04:11] <Quinn> i clicked on the .run file
[04:11] <agdr> err um...  I wanna watch realvideo and mp4, asf, wma...
[04:11] <_jason> phiber_optic: does about:plugins say asx is associated with mplayer now?
[04:11] <brenner> Quinn: and you just clicked on install?
[04:11] <Kazurae> Approximately how long does the Ubuntu install take?
[04:11] <agdr> but I'm not sure what to install..
[04:11] <Quinn> So then I went "Ubuntu provided drivers" way
[04:11] <Quinn> Yes I did
[04:11] <phiber_optic> _jason
[04:11] <phiber_optic> _jason still doesnt associate it
[04:11] <ttread> Kazurae, it took me about 35 minutes
[04:11] <brenner> Quinn: you need to create the debs as the wiki says if you are using the ati.com method
[04:11] <_jason> phiber_optic: did you close all instances of firefox and restart it?
[04:11] <brenner> Quinn: just follow it step by step
[04:11] <phiber_optic> yeap
[04:11] <Kazurae> thx ttread
[04:12] <_jason> phiber_optic: what version of firefox?
[04:12] <Quinn> What way would you go
[04:12] <phiber_optic> 1.5.1
[04:12] <brenner> Quinn: i'd go with the repo
[04:12] <XaeroVincent> The installer for Ubuntu isnt as nice as PC-BSD... but it does the job
[04:12] <Quinn> Ubuntu provided drivers  ----> ATi?
[04:12] <brenner> Quinn: i think your card should be supported by the driver in there
[04:12] <lolzer> someone dcc send me the /etc/apt/sources.list of ubuntu ?
[04:12] <brenner> Quinn: the driver in the ubuntu repo
[04:12] <IdleOne> !source
[04:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:12] <Quinn> So sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[04:12] <brenner> Quinn: yes
[04:13] <lolzer> !tell lolzer about ati
[04:13] <Quinn> did that
[04:13] <Quinn> did this echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[04:13] <molotov_> I'm trying to get my printer working and after installing HPLIP for my printer, it was working and I successfully printed from a browser and a test page. However, I tried to enable print-sharing so that I could print from the other computers in my house and now when I goto System - Administration - Printers, I get the CUPS server could not be contacted error. I'm trying to Google, but not finding any solutions that work.
[04:13] <Quinn> did this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:13] <lolzer> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:13] <phiber_optic> _jason??
[04:13] <Quinn> Restart = Crash
[04:13] <Quinn> GUI Crash
[04:13] <brenner> Quinn: what driver did you select during the reconfig?
[04:13] <Quinn> and I have to reconfiger X server
[04:13] <_jason> phiber_optic: one sec, you have to symlink some stuff
[04:13] <phiber_optic> symlink??
[04:13] <lolzer> !easysources
[04:13] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lolzer
[04:14] <lolzer> !easysource
[04:14] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:14] <Quinn> ati
[04:14] <IdleOne> _jason:  can you paste the symlinks into pastebin so I could do it also?
[04:14] <brenner> Quinn: you need to choose fglrx
[04:14] <brenner> Quinn: as the wiki says. :)
[04:14] <papichulo> wat
[04:15] <brenner> molotov_: i would try the forums first.  they're usually more relevant
[04:15] <Quinn> Ok I done that
[04:15] <orz> Right, so I installed Iroffer through the repository and everything, but how do I actually run the program?
[04:15] <brenner> Quinn: now restart X
[04:15] <Quinn> i chose fglerx
[04:15] <phiber_optic> IdleOne, I think he is doing it right now
[04:15] <XaeroVincent> Quinn... what card do u have?
[04:16] <Quinn> Then I esc every thing else
[04:16] <_jason> IdleOne: mkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins/ ; ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/mplayerplug* ~/.mozilla/plugins/, I think that works :P
[04:16] <phiber_optic> _jason,  should I to that too?
[04:16] <Quinn> Gx cube 9600 xt pro 256
[04:16] <_jason> IdleOne: erm sorry
[04:16] <_jason> phiber_optic: yeah that was meant for you
[04:16] <unperson> I have a question about mount and fstab.  If I mount a FAT32 volume, it has to assign some ownership to the files (since they don't have a owner UID.  My understanding is that it will assign the UID of the user that calls the mount command (root if you to sudo mount) unless you use the uid= option in mount.  I assume that if it's listed in /etc/fstab to be user mountable, then it's given the UID of the user who mounts it.  But what
[04:16] <unperson>  happens with USB or flash drives that automount?
[04:16] <XaeroVincent> oh ok... it will work fine... I have 9600 XT
[04:16] <Quinn> Whats X short for?
[04:16] <brenner> XaeroVincent: that card is supported by the repo driver right?
[04:16] <Quinn> Restart computer?
[04:16] <Iceman> cool see if i can get a rma on my 64 bit mobo
[04:17] <XaeroVincent> yea
[04:17] <_jason> IdleOne: oh you asked too, make sure you don't already have plugins like vlc or totem
[04:17] <brenner> Quinn: desktop environment.  ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:17] <unperson> My flash drive seems to always get my UID, not root, when I plug it in.
[04:17] <Quinn> lol
[04:17] <Quinn> how to I start up the GUI in the command prompt?
[04:17] <Quinn> just incase it crashes :(
[04:17] <brenner> Quinn: also, you shouldn't be pressing esc...at least afaik.  you should be going through the reconfig to ensure the file gets written
[04:17] <Iceman> Quinn startx
[04:18] <molotov_> brenner: will look there, thanks.
[04:18] <phiber_optic> _jason, ???
[04:18] <lolzer> i can use the ubuntu sources.list on normal debian-31r0a-i386?
[04:18] <_jason> phiber_optic: lol did I mess up the syntax?
[04:18] <ttread> unperson I'm guessing here but that is probably configured in hotplug
[04:18] <Iceman> anyone had issues with grounding on a 64 bit mobo ?
[04:18] <phiber_optic> I didnt do it yet caus u said sorry
[04:18] <_jason> phiber_optic: oh I just got confused because I forgot IdleOne asked
[04:19] <phiber_optic> ok
[04:19] <unperson> ttread, Perhaps.  So you think it always comes up as the same user regardless of who is logged in?
[04:19] <phiber_optic> I did it
[04:19] <unperson> I wondered if perhaps it actually looks at who is running a desktop and uses that uid.
[04:19] <brenner> lolzer: no.  you should use debian sources for debian
[04:19] <lolzer> ok thanks :)
[04:20] <Iceman> I got a abit kv8 pro 64 bit systems, acts dead, powers on, but no post ... and cannot find a post code list ...
[04:20] <phiber_optic> it says connecting to server...bufferingg...
[04:20] <Iceman> does post beep ... one long 3 short ...
[04:20] <phiber_optic> iit worked
[04:20] <phiber_optic> _jasonn
[04:20] <phiber_optic> thanxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[04:20] <ttread> unperson, I think it is making it writeable to the current desktop user
[04:20] <orz> Right, so I installed Iroffer through the repository and everything, but how do I actually run the program? <=I'm sure I didn't stump the masses with this one
[04:21] <_jason> phiber_optic: cool
[04:21] <_jason> IdleOne: it work ok for you too?
[04:21] <Madpilot> Iceman: check abit's website?
[04:21] <phiber_optic> _jason really appreciate it ;)
[04:22] <IdleOne> _jason you lost me when you mentioned totem and vlc
[04:22] <brenner> orz: dpkg -L iroffer | grep bin maybe?
[04:23] <Kyral> !sources
[04:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:23] <bshumate_> Iceman: CPU core voltage issue, and yeah, what Madpilot said ;-)
[04:23] <Kyral> !ubotu tell Kyral about easysource
[04:23] <_jason> IdleOne: go to about:plugins, is anything associated with .asx? (ctrl+f asx)
[04:24] <Iceman> No info on abit site i can find .... :(
[04:24] <kez> hey guys
[04:24] <kez> quick question, how can i change which user/group apache2 runs as?
[04:24] <IdleOne> _jason:  says not found
[04:24] <Madpilot> Iceman: you can't get the manual as a PDF or something? Asus has manuals for download, I know
[04:25] <Iceman> tried there ... befor asking here ... dead mobo .. killed my ubuntu install
[04:25] <_jason> IdleOne: what version of firefox?
[04:25] <IdleOne> 1.5
[04:25] <_jason> IdleOne: install mozilla-mplayer
[04:25] <IdleOne> it is installed
[04:25] <Iceman> Madpilot i got the manual here, nothing on post codes ... "BEEPS"
[04:25] <_jason> IdleOne: mkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins/ ; ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/mplayerplug* ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[04:26] <IdleOne> _jason ok done
[04:26] <_jason> IdleOne: restart firefox and it should work
[04:26] <Iceman> Went to install a et game level, and the system went down ... crash, and could not get a post screen, just beeps ...
[04:26] <Mabus06> Are there less bulky things to use instead of gnome/kde?
[04:26] <Madpilot> Iceman: that sucks - Asus has the beep codes in their manuals
[04:27] <brenner> Mabus06: fkuxbox is popular
[04:27] <brenner> fluxbox even
[04:27] <Agamotto> Sawfish
[04:27] <brenner> :)
[04:27] <Agamotto> Xfce
[04:27] <Madpilot> brenner: type that wrong and it could be... entertaining :P
[04:27] <ttread> Mabus06 yes, there are a number of smaller desktops - XFCE is nice
[04:27] <Iceman> MadPilot if i have to buy a Board, I'll got socket 939 ... and build a new duel core ...
[04:27] <Agamotto> IceWM is pretty good for low-med spec machines
[04:27] <Mabus06> Hmm... do I go for nice, or opular?
[04:27] <Brendon> hi all, i'm trying to compile mod_perl 2.0.2 on my ubuntu server and if fails after i type make with this error. /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
[04:27] <brenner> Madpilot: hehe.  i was thinking the same thing
[04:28] <Agamotto> Iceman:  If you are planning on building a new AMD system, wait until after April.  New socket set comes out around then for the Athlon line
[04:28] <Healot> you didn't install or configure libperl, perhaps, Brendon ?
[04:28] <brenner> Mabus06: just try them out i say...easy enough to remove if you don't like them
[04:28] <Mabus06> brenner: ideally... had a bad experience trying out kde
[04:29] <IdleOne> _jason:  thanks buddy ()
[04:29] <Agamotto> KDE is a hog, with all the bits turned on
[04:29] <Iceman> Agamotto, i'd still go 939, and april the prices will drop then .. and still give me duel core ... :)
[04:29] <ttread> Mabus06 look them up and review some screenshots
[04:29] <_jason> IdleOne: np
[04:29] <Brendon> Healot: i'll try that, thanks
[04:29] <Agamotto> Iceman:  Ok, I just thought you might wish to know.  Some folks feel the need to be on the bleeding edge
[04:29] <Xenguy> Question: Some of my non-GTK apps now show crappy fonts, and it seems that it happened after I installed 'msttcorefonts'.  Has anyone seen this before?  Do I need to find some 'font de-uglification HOWTO' like when I was using Debian?
[04:30] <IdleOne> _jason:  now I have to be careful when watching spanish tv...they tend to show nude women lol
[04:30] <Agamotto> IdleOne:  The language is quite loose as well
[04:30] <Unity> IdleOne: umm...what channel is this you speak of?
[04:30] <hecate355> hey
[04:30] <Madpilot> bshumate_: so if you have duel cores and you duel boot, which fight happens first? :P
[04:30] <hecate355> Ubuntu is created from debian right?
[04:30] <IdleOne> Agamotto:  my wife dont speak spanish but I do
[04:30] <Iceman> Agamotto true, like to be a step behind, cant afford $2,000 for a bleeding edge ... so Second generation does great ... :)
[04:30] <Xenguy> hecate355: essentially
[04:30] <hecate355> and it has the package manager like aptitute aswell? and net-install?
[04:31] <IdleOne> Unity:  :p Ill never tell
[04:31] <Unity> IdleOne: =(
[04:31] <Iceman> I build my 64 bit for $200.00 ..... and parted out my p4 ....
[04:31] <hecate355> Im just wondering how i get all of these programs like xorg, gnome etc. easily without surfing the net
[04:31] <bshumate_> Madpilot: heh heh, dunno, but all that dueling, and someone is surely gonna be on the bleeding edge alright! ;-P
[04:31] <Healot> the duel boot first, of course
[04:31] <Xenguy> hecate355: former, yes; latter, I assume so
[04:31] <IdleOne> Unity: www.unitel.tv/webtv
[04:31] <Agamotto> Iceman:  I tend told hold back around 3yrs.... great prices, most stuff has had all the bugs worked out
[04:31] <Kyral> hecate355: Apt-Get: Synaptic?
[04:31] <Healot> Synaptic uses apt-get :) hehe
[04:31] <hecate355> hmm, does that AMD64 port work fine?
[04:31] <Agamotto> hecate355:  You could get a mag dedicated to linux that has a dvd or cds attached
[04:31] <Xenguy> hecate355: IOW, it handles dependencies very well :-)
[04:32] <Agamotto> Linux Format comes to mind
[04:32] <spikebike> hecate yeah but 32bit binaries are far from transparent
[04:32] <Madpilot> hecate355: Ubuntu will send you CDs for free - shipit.ubuntu.com
[04:32] <hecate355> well, im download the CD image atm, rest packages i download from net right?
[04:32] <Iceman> Agamotto I follow about a year behind on the Systems i build ... still usinig a DELL 2.8 ...
[04:32] <Healot> yeah, Ubuntu's AMD64 port cool
[04:33] <spikebike> for instance getting firefox, mplayer, flash, and java is non-trivial
[04:33] <hecate355> i have spent WHOLE night trying to get debian's 64bit edition to work
[04:33] <spikebike> the install (for me) was trivial
[04:33] <hecate355> it just sucked badly, i hope that i dont get any troubles with this one
[04:33] <Xenguy> it's all trivial
[04:33] <spikebike> and the 64 bit firefox worked fine if you didn't need flash/java
[04:33] <Iceman> Agamotto Sucked got my AMD 64 right about when the 939 came out ... there burned in and tested now, so it would be safe to move to a duel core cpu / mobo ...
[04:34] <Healot> there is a java port for AMD64, but no flash
[04:34] <Iceman> sucks you have to bootstrap linux all the 64 bit stuff lacking support ... ;(
[04:34] <ttread> I got mplayer working on Kubuntu AMD 64, had to build it from source
[04:34] <Agamotto> Iceman:  My current machine is about 4 years old, save for the GeForce 6600 video card
[04:35] <spikebike> and player depends on 32 bit codecs for many formats, so the amd64 mplayer is crippled
[04:35] <spikebike> s/player/mplayer
[04:35] <Iceman> Agamotto i got a gforce 5500 .... does me well ...
[04:35] <spikebike> which is fixable, but non-trivial
[04:35] <hecate355> whats the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu:S?
[04:35] <Kyral> hecate355: GNOME vs KDE
[04:35] <asymmetry> hecate355, ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde
[04:36] <hecate355> aha
[04:36] <asymmetry> ubuntu > kubuntu
[04:36] <Iceman> Should look into a duel socket 754 mobo .. and get a board and second cpu ... run 2x cpu's and ubuntu 64 .... :)
[04:36] <asymmetry> i had a number of issues with kubuntu
[04:36] <hecate355> so you cant change DE on Ubuntu? it stays gnome forever?
[04:36] <asymmetry> ubuntu, however, is great
[04:36] <Healot> i just install the 32bit ffox instead :)
[04:36] <Kyral> hecate355: hell no
[04:36] <asymmetry> hecate355, you can change - its just defaulted to one
[04:36] <Kyral> hecate355: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:36] <Kyral> try it
[04:37] <Kyral> Hell I have GNOME, XFCE, Fluxbox, and Openbox all installed :P
[04:37] <Agamotto> I am running Kubuntu here, and I flip between KDE and Gnome frequently
[04:37] <ttread> asymmetry I disagree, I'm really liking Kubuntu.  Just as smooth as Ubuntu.
[04:37] <Iceman> Boy, hard decision, get a new Duel CPU socket 754 board and a Second CPU, or get a new Socket 939 64 bit cpu, and mobo ... ?
[04:38] <KakiPukul> well Kubuntu is Ubuntu anwyas
[04:38] <asymmetry> ttread, well, congrats to you - for me, it was horrible
[04:38] <Kyral> KDE...eh I mean I see some things I like in it, but on average I'm too used to XFCE and GNOME lol
[04:38] <KakiPukul> Iceman, do you want a SMP kernel or just single CPU kernel?
[04:38] <KakiPukul> I'll go for SMP....
[04:39] <Iceman> KakiPukil Does AMD 64 Support SMP from cd ? Ubuntu distro ?
[04:39] <biovore> Iceman: I am not sure
[04:40] <Iceman> Or would i have to install a Custom kernel ?
[04:40] <biovore> Iceman: I think there is an SMP kernel though for amd64
[04:40] <KakiPukul> not from the CD, by default... you need to dl from the server...
[04:40] <g14> !javadebs
[04:40] <KakiPukul> well, just apt-get, easy right?
[04:40] <Iceman> biovore Have to wiki that one ... be nice if the kernel supports smp ...
[04:41] <Iceman> taking a look at WIKI for 64 bit smp ?
[04:41] <KakiPukul> linux-amd64-k8-smp << SMP kernel for AMD64 (AMD64 specific)
[04:41] <Iceman> !smp
[04:41] <ubotu> from memory, smp is Symmetric Multi Processing. The x86 architecture way of using multiple CPUs in one computer.
[04:41] <Iceman> ! smp
[04:42] <ubotu> [smp]  Symmetric Multi Processing. The x86 architecture way of using multiple CPUs in one computer.
[04:42] <fr500> argghhhh can't update packages from home dunno why
[04:42] <biovore> ?
[04:42] <asymmetry> What's the protocol for hyperthreaded procs?
[04:42] <spikebike> Healot how did you install the 32 bit firefox?
[04:42] <biovore> asymmetry: HT?
[04:42] <KakiPukul> it's not only x86... any architecture can do that
[04:42] <spikebike> HT just works, but it doesn't add performance
[04:43] <asymmetry> I thought there was a fancy name for that.
[04:43] <spikebike> (with an SMP kernel)
[04:43] <asymmetry> Like, in the kernel config, there was something else...
[04:43] <KakiPukul> install it separately... using firefox official releases, not ubuntu's
[04:43] <spikebike> I'd recommend a amd64 over a dual s754, especially for home.
[04:43] <spikebike> kaki but then you don't get mplayer right?
[04:43] <biovore> asymmetry: you need the HT process scedular and SMP for HT to work
[04:43] <KakiPukul> s754 is for AMD64 :)
[04:43] <spikebike> biovore thats default in 2.6
[04:43] <biovore> I think its called sybling suport
[04:43] <KakiPukul> I don't use mplayer... i use xine/vlc
[04:44] <biovore> spikebike: default on ubuntus kernel, yes..
[04:44] <spikebike> there are dual s754's?
[04:44] <biovore> not from kernel.org though
[04:44] <KakiPukul> there are some out there...
[04:44] <Kyral> !fixres
[04:44] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:44] <tim_> how do i install .deb packages in ubuntu
[04:44] <KakiPukul> but way expensive///
[04:44] <Iceman> anyone know a wiki link on smp and UBUNTU 64 bit ?
[04:44] <btdown> dpkg -i <pkgname>
[04:44] <brenner> tim_: what is it?
[04:44] <spikebike> kaki can xine/vlc play most formats when video is embedded in a webpage?  I.e. apple.com/trailers
[04:44] <KakiPukul> tim_, dpkg -t <package>
[04:44] <tim_> opera
[04:44] <tim_> for ppc
[04:44] <asymmetry> SMT, that's what it is,.
[04:44] <Iceman> ! amd64
[04:44] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Iceman
[04:44] <asymmetry> I think.
[04:45] <KakiPukul> yes./// spikebike there are plugins for firefox... just search for it...
[04:45] <asymmetry> I haven't actually had any kind of luck compiling a custom kernel for ubuntu.
[04:45] <KakiPukul> seamlessly work with firefox32 bit...
[04:45] <asymmetry> It always spazzes out at boot time and still boots... or it FATAL's out.
[04:45] <Nunquam_Fidelis> How does one view the DNS server they are using, via terminal? Is it ifconfig --something ?
[04:46] <biovore> Nunquam_Fidelis: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[04:46] <root____2> hey anyone know what is the command to check a disk for errors?
[04:46] <xnull> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[04:46] <brenner> tim_: might be useful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[04:46] <asymmetry> Do I have to do anything special to the kernel build? Or just make, make modules, make modules_install, copy the bzImage to /boot, mkinitrd it, and modify /boot/grub/blah.lst?
[04:46] <xnull> fsc+tab
[04:46] <biovore> root____2: fsck
[04:46] <root____2> biovore: ah yes thanks
[04:46] <ahoora> hi has anyone installed freebsd on ubuntu? does it probably make any problem in multi bood logo?
[04:46] <KakiPukul> fsck <dev>, root____2
[04:46] <spikebike> kaki, the tricky part is compiling xine/vlc for a 32 bit environment on an amd64, did you manage that?
[04:46] <ahoora> *boot
[04:46] <biovore> root____2: if your checking a filesystem make sure its umounted, or mounted as read-only
[04:47] <Xenguy> Nunquam_Fidelis: /igr root____2
[04:47] <KakiPukul> install *bsd on ubuntu, what exactly are you trying to stay?
[04:47] <root____2> i came into single-user mode only to find that i had forgotten that command!
[04:47] <Xenguy> sorry
[04:47] <root____2> don't run irc as root, kids!
[04:47] <asymmetry> lol
[04:47] <ahoora> kakipukul i have winxp and ubuntu now i want to install freebsd on my system as well , but i am afraid of loosing these two in my multi boot session
[04:47] <KakiPukul> there are lib32...
[04:48] <Iceman> anyone know a complete package list for the Ubuntu 64 bit cd
[04:48] <spikebike> I know that, but it's tricky
[04:48] <hecate355> hey guys, is it possible to play all these new games like Doom3 etc. on Linux aswell?
[04:48] <spikebike> I just did it for mplayer today and I had to setup a chroot just to get it to compile
[04:48] <tristanmike> hecate355: Doom3 does have a linux installer
[04:48] <hecate355> is there some special emulator or something wich let em store-games to run on my linuxbox?
[04:48] <spikebike> hecate doom3 is available for purchase for linux
[04:49] <jaeek> how can i make a folder that puts g+w on subirs automatically? i want a group full write access to a diretory
[04:49] <tristanmike> hecate355: in that case you are speaking of WINE or Cedega
[04:49] <Xenguy> jaeek: umask
[04:49] <ttread> ahoora one thing I can tell is to use different swap partitions for BSD and Linux.  I talked to someone today who had big problems trying to use the same partition.
[04:49] <hecate355> well yes, but most of other games dont, for an example, i wanna play Baldurs Gate II, but it doesnt have a linux installer
[04:49] <Iceman> dang cant find info on Ubuntu 64 ... and smp support ?
[04:49] <hecate355> i once used WINE and it was so buggy and crappy that i never got anything to work
[04:49] <spikebike> iceman it works fine
[04:50] <Xenguy> jaeek: or 'mkdir -m 775 blah'
[04:50] <spikebike> people seem relatively happy with cedega
[04:50] <jaeek> Xenguy, ah! sweet, thanks
[04:50] <ahoora> thanks ttread
[04:50] <Iceman> spikebike Ubuntu 64 supports SMP .. duel processors in 64 bit ?
[04:50] <tyler> how far along the installation process can i be a user? meaning... make,make install,etc...as user? can i do the whole process as user?
[04:50] <spikebike> iceman yes
[04:50] <Xenguy> jaeek: or maybe you are thinking of something like 'chmod g+s blah'
[04:51] <hecate355> erm, Cedega is pay-to-get?
[04:51] <ttread> The id games were easy to make work on Linux because they were constructed in OpenGL, as opposed to many other games which use DirectX
[04:51] <Iceman> spikebike awsome ...
[04:51] <Madpilot> hecate355: yes
[04:51] <ttread> id games being Doom, Quake, Hexen
[04:51] <asymmetry> Is there anything special that I have to do for a custom compiled kernel in Ubuntu?
[04:51] <asymmetry> Or is it the same process + mkinitrd?
[04:52] <vejan> evening all
[04:52] <jaeek> Xenguy, well, with g+s the write permissoin was still not getting set in subdirs under the dir with g+s set
[04:52] <Iceman> shoot now i got to find a duel cpu mobo .. socket 754
[04:52] <jaeek> Xenguy, but with the mask combo, i think it will work
[04:52] <Xenguy> jaeek: hrm, I would have thought that should work (depending on your real goal of course :-)
[04:53] <Xenguy> jaeek: I guess I wasn't sure I grokked the problem fully
[04:53] <vejan> I need  help?
[04:53] <Xenguy> vejan: ask
[04:54] <vejan> using ubuntu 5.04, I downloaded .tar program
[04:54] <Xenguy> vejan: what program
[04:54] <Xenguy> ?
[04:54] <vejan> cbtracker- check writing program
[04:54] <jaeek> Xenguy, i have a dir (/var/www/photo) with g+rwXs set... and i want the group to be able to create multi level sub dirs and still give other users in the gruop write access to each subdir
[04:54] <vejan> and now it doesn't run
[04:54] <phillambrechts> what command can i use to output system info such as CPU speed, amount of memory, etc
[04:54] <Healot> why don't you be specific and paste all log onto pastebin?
[04:54] <Healot> :)
[04:55] <toren> hello; is there any that I can obtain (or automatically rebuild) all the packages on my system to have debugging info integrated?
[04:55] <brenner> tyler: afaik, you need admin privileges to install form source...btw, you might want to use checkinstall instead : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[04:55] <IdleOne> phillambrechts:  top
[04:55] <vejan> says to run it from terminal
[04:55] <esac_> anybody know how to get a scanner to work ? hp usb ...
[04:55] <Xenguy> jaeek: hrm, sounds kind of recursive -- I'm not honestly sure how, would require testing
[04:55] <IdleOne> phillambrechts:  ummm I meant free
[04:55] <IdleOne> phillambrechts:  type free in terminal
[04:56] <Xenguy> jaeek: the g+s trick is the best idea I've got ATM
[04:56] <phrizer> vejan, tar -xvf file.tar
[04:56] <phrizer> vejan, will extract the files.
[04:56] <jaeek> Xenguy, well, with g+s, the sub dirs created do not get g+w
[04:56] <vejan> I did extract file
[04:57] <brenner> vejan: tar is just an archive.  you need to extract it
[04:57] <phillambrechts> IdleOne, thats just memory im looking for like an overall spec type thing
[04:57] <phrizer> vejan, whats the problem? are they source files?
[04:57] <phillambrechts> i know its possible, its something like cat /var/....
[04:57] <Agamotto> I am starting to pass out at the keyboard....
[04:57] <Agamotto> Chat at you later
[04:57] <Xenguy> vejan: if you can, compile using the 'checkinstall' program
[04:57] <vejan> I extreacted it
[04:57] <vejan> it created a directory
[04:58] <vejan> i went there
[04:58] <Xenguy> vejan: OK, so what's the problem?
[04:58] <Xenguy> !enter
[04:58] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:58] <Iceman> now thats totaly weird a mobo with no bios ... http://www.madshrimps.be/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10237
[04:58] <Fable> wats with my resolution, i have nvidia 6600gt 128mb gpu and it only lets me have 640x480
[04:58] <vejan> enter the name of the program, -command not found
[04:58] <brenner> ubotu: tell Fable about fixres
[04:59] <Xenguy> !tell Fable about fixres
[04:59] <spikebike> you need the nvidia driver
[04:59] <Fable> how
[04:59] <Rarj> does sudo make me stay in root permanently ?
[04:59] <Fable> do i get it
[04:59] <tristanmike> Rarj: no
[04:59] <Fable> do i dl them off the nvdia site and install
[04:59] <Fable> r they .deb
[04:59] <brenner> Fable: check your pms
[05:00] <unperson> I have a flash card that says it has "write-protection on".  Is there a way to turn write-protection off?
[05:01] <vejan> went to the author's web site, and he says to just run it from terminal
[05:01] <phrizer> vejan, did you compile it?
[05:01] <phrizer> vejan, Does it need compiling?
[05:01] <vejan> came as a .tar
[05:01] <Healot> phillambrechts, cat /proc/cpuinfo (kernel 2.4 above)
[05:01] <vejan> .tar.gz
[05:01] <phrizer> vejan, yes it came as a tar, you've said that already. But does it need compiling?
[05:02] <brenner> vejan: type 'ls'.  do you see a cdtracker file?
[05:02] <odla> vejan: read the README file
[05:02] <brenner> *cbtracker
[05:02] <Healot> is it source code or binary?
[05:02] <vejan> i have the cbtracker directory
[05:02] <Xenguy> vejan: also look for an 'INSTALL' file
[05:02] <brenner> i would d/load it, but i'm on dialup.....http://freshmeat.net/projects/cbtracker/
[05:03] <vejan> no  install file
[05:03] <vejan> found in direcotry
[05:03] <vejan> directory
[05:03] <Quinn> Im back
[05:03] <Quinn> My ATi Graphics cards screwed
[05:03] <Quinn> in Linux
[05:03] <brenner> Quinn: good or bad news?
[05:03] <Quinn> bad :(
[05:03] <Quinn> Xserver crashed again
[05:03] <brenner> bad i guess
[05:04] <Healot> Quinn, if the card really screwed, you won;t see this screen right? :)
[05:04] <Quinn> lol
[05:04] <makaveli> is it possible to run gnomemeeting behind freebsd ipfw/natd
[05:04] <Xenguy> vejan: there's gotta be something; README ?
[05:04] <brenner> Quinn: still wouldn't load?
[05:04] <Quinn> Yeah
[05:04] <kinetic> how do i make a shortcut to my main harddrive, like i have for my mounted drives
[05:04] <Quinn> And I slected the write graphics driver this time
[05:04] <kinetic> so i can see freespace etc
[05:04] <Quinn> Please dont tell me about ATi the wiki dont work 4 me :(
[05:05] <vejan> yes ther e is a readme file
[05:05] <Quinn> Is it possable that you can login my box?
[05:05] <Healot> i will install fglrx for sure, until ATi release the code unde LGPL/GPL compatible license...
[05:05] <Quinn> Or is there some sort of log file you can get to see why it doesnt not work
[05:06] <Quinn> fglrx dont work with my 9600 XT
[05:06] <vejan> This is the ELF executable (that means, you run the program "cbtracker"
[05:06] <vejan> from the command prompt or make an icon for it with the included icon
[05:06] <vejan> file in your desktop environment.)
[05:06] <Quinn> or ubuntu or what ever
[05:06] <fr500> hello
[05:06] <vejan> thats what it says
[05:06] <brenner> Quinn: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:06] <Healot> if they doing to release it proprietary, i rather use Windows :)
[05:06] <brenner> Quinn: pastebin that
[05:06] <Healot> Quinn, anyways, was that fglrx even for 9600 XT?
[05:06] <fr500> has anyone been able to set up pptpd fine in breezy? used to work just fine in dapper
[05:06] <brenner> Healot: someone confirmed the repo driver *does* work for his card
[05:06] <Healot> you gotta check to what it was built for first....
[05:06] <Xenguy> vejan: try running it then...
[05:07] <Xenguy> vejan: maybe it doesn't need to be compiled...
[05:07] <Quinn> paste bin link?
[05:07] <vejan> hmmm
[05:07] <fr500> !pptp
[05:07] <ubotu> fr500: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:07] <Xenguy> (er, assuming you trust the binary, if that's what it is)
[05:07] <Quinn> found it
[05:07] <kinetic> how can i view my hardrives freespace, like in windows i just right click it and view the hd's properties
[05:07] <brenner> vejan: you need to use an absolute or relative path then.  you can't just type cbtracker b/c it hasn't been added to your path environ.
[05:08] <Wolfwood> Hallo Menschen
[05:08] <brenner> vejan: so either cd in the dir, and type ./cbtracker, or /blah/blah/cbtracker
[05:08] <IdleOne> kinetic:  type free in terminal
[05:08] <Quinn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9345
[05:08] <Xenguy> vejan: just prepend this to the filename:  ./
[05:08] <vejan> cd ..
[05:08] <Quinn> There is my Xorg.log
[05:08] <kinetic> idleone: thanks
[05:08] <brenner> Quinn: looking
[05:08] <vejan> Holy crap
[05:08] <vejan> it works now
[05:08] <Wolfwood> Any other Ubuntu Power Mac users here?
[05:08] <Xenguy> vejan: no way :-)
[05:08] <Archaios> Can anyone help me with transfering files from a NTFS HD?  When i copy from the NTFS drive I have to manually switch the files permission to write.  Is there an way to have that done automatically when I transfer?
[05:08] <hanasaki> can linux do softwre raid 10 or 0+1?
[05:08] <unperson> kinetic, Type "df -h"
[05:09] <vejan> yep
[05:09] <vejan> did ./cbtracker
[05:09] <vejan> and it opened up
[05:09] <kinetic> idleone: can i make a shortcut to my main hardrive on my desktop like it did when i mounted my other drives
[05:09] <vejan> awsome
[05:09] <Wolfwood> No doubt you could.
[05:09] <Xenguy> vejan: so you read the README, and you acted on its advice, right? :-)
[05:09] <Wolfwood> Create launcher I bet
[05:09] <tim_> i tried apt get to get xlib6g but it doesnt seem to be working for me
[05:09] <Quinn> That log looks farfetched
[05:10] <Healot> in ubuntu, Go go System -> Administration - Disks (for GUI lovers)
[05:10] <vejan> readme doesn't say anything about ./cbtracker to run it
[05:10] <Quinn> GUI FTW?
[05:10] <Healot> in breezy that is...
[05:10] <brenner> Quinn: can you pastebin youe /etc/X11/xorg.conf file as well?
[05:10] <kinetic> healot: thats what i wanted! thx lol i <3 gui
[05:10] <Xenguy> vejan: true - it tells you that it is a binary (i.e. doesn't need to be compiled)
[05:11] <Xenguy> vejan: so now you know the ./  is implied :-)
[05:11] <Healot> thanls sure... next time please mention GUI or interface :)
[05:11] <vejan> yep
[05:11] <vejan> Thanks
[05:11] <tulioanjos> someone can help me in vmware ?
[05:11] <Xenguy> vejan: yw
[05:11] <Quinn> You dont want the ones with the numbers on the end of it?
[05:11] <Quinn> because I have to reconfiger xserv when ubuntu gui crashes
[05:12] <Healot> tulioanjos, sorry this is ubuntu's help channel
[05:12] <Healot> but I can help a little, sure go on... tulioanjos
[05:12] <brenner> Quinn: what?
[05:12] <Quinn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9346
[05:13] <Quinn> I have all these xorg.conf.321932183219
[05:13] <Quinn> files like that
[05:13] <SkippyX> wow. bunch o' folks in here.
[05:13] <kimo> Any suggestions for how to get help from kimdaba to work?
[05:13] <kimo> KDE help is giving: "An error occurred while loading help:/kimdaba/index.html:" "The process for the help protocol died unexpectedly."
[05:13] <kimo> This is on a standartd ubuntu (5.10) (not kubuntu), with aptitude install kimdaba khelpcentre
[05:13] <brenner> Quinn: you're still using the ati driver
[05:13] <Quinn> If I use the fx what ever it was
[05:13] <Quinn> Ubuntu dont work !
[05:13] <fr500> has anyone had this problem? i can update my sources fine at work, 15mbit connectio, at home, it wont work, wont even be able to fetch even security repos
[05:14] <brenner> Quinn: ah, you switched back, sorry
[05:14] <fr500> connection is fine, 400kbit downstream and never had this before
[05:14] <Quinn> np
[05:14] <Quinn> I have other ones you might wana look at
[05:14] <Healot> not really about the band, there something about your connection setting
[05:14] <Healot> or you selected a server that is down atm?
[05:14] <fr500> Healot: me?
[05:14] <brenner> Quinn: the log is irrelevant then, b/c it doesn't have the info regarding fglrx, it has info regarding the ati driver
[05:15] <fr500> Healot: no, works fine at the office, i sshd in and tried, same sources.list
[05:15] <Healot> in your source.list file///
[05:15] <intelikey> fr500 28k dialup modem here no problems with that....
[05:15] <fr500> man...., i upgraded my service to 400 and then this started
[05:15] <Healot> well, I mean at HOME?
[05:16] <fr500> Healot: yes i know, same sources.list right now
[05:16] <Quinn> I have one with Fglrx
[05:16] <SkippyX> OK - longtime Mandrake user here. Downloaded ubuntu tonight. Gonna do an install - but I have dial-up. I've been using kppp for years. Can't find a package list on the site. what dial-up app does ubuntu come w/?
[05:16] <Healot> does, your ISP impose some firewall?
[05:16] <kinetic> i want to make a link to hda1 on my desktop. like when you mount media and it creates a shortcut on the desktop and you can right click it to view its freespace and size and stuff
[05:16] <oldschool> does anybodt know how to get gcc for 5.1?
[05:16] <Quinn> So what should I do :(
[05:16] <fr500> Healot: not that i know
[05:17] <intelikey> SkippyX wvdial is on the cd.
[05:17] <Healot>  I don;'t about that... just check out if you can ping those servers listed in source.list (at home that is)
[05:17] <brenner> intelikey: 28k?  i thought i had it bad :-/
[05:17] <blanky> intelikey, you still come here my good friend
[05:17] <bluefoxicy> "Amaze your friends with our accessories! Safe hermaphro-surgery techniques.  Burke's Bio-surgery."
[05:17] <bluefoxicy> This is in one of the games in Ubuntu Universe
[05:17] <fr500> Healot: yup can ping and telnet the ports just fine
[05:17] <blanky> Seveas, you still come here my good friend
[05:17] <SkippyX> intelikey, does it have a gui frontend? I've not used it.
[05:17] <bluefoxicy> does anyone want a nice set of balls to go with their vagina?
[05:17] <Healot> hum...
[05:17] <intelikey> blanky sometimes yes.
[05:17] <Quinn> Is there away you can just login my system and look around?
[05:17] <Healot> can you FTP or browser them, manually, fr500 ?
[05:17] <brenner> bluefoxicy: what game?
[05:18] <jaeek> is it safe for me to set the default umask to 002 on my ubuntu system?
[05:18] <intelikey> SkippyX idk  but a script works fine for me.
[05:18] <blanky> !ubotu kick bluefoxicy
[05:18] <ubotu> blanky: Do they come in packets of five.  Kewl - thank you!
[05:18] <bluefoxicy> brenner:  Beneath a Steel Sky
[05:18] <Healot> jaeek, teknikally yes
[05:18] <asymmetry_> make -j is not your friend when linux kernel source is concerned
[05:18] <kinetic> i want to make a link to hda1 on my desktop. like when you mount media and it creates a shortcut on the desktop and you can right click it to view its freespace and size and stuff how can i do this?
[05:18] <blanky> oldschool, usually sudo apt-get build-essential gives you them
[05:18] <SkippyX> This should be a hoot. I've been using mdk 9.2 for 3 years now.
[05:18] <bluefoxicy> brenner:  I'm looking at the personal e-mail for this guy who's security card I stole
[05:18] <oldschool> this will alllow me to compile programs too?
[05:18] <bluefoxicy> brenner:  And the last page is something about hermaphro-surgery
[05:19] <jaeek> Healot, so, just modify it in /etc/login.defs?
[05:19] <Healot> but becareful.. of suid setters
[05:19] <Healot> yes...
[05:19] <brenner> Quinn: i don't know how.  just switch back to fglrx, save the failed log file as a backup, and then reboot.
[05:19] <fr500> argggg, man what happened
[05:19] <Healot> add option umask 0022
[05:19] <fr500> ....
[05:19] <Xenguy> bluefoxicy: you are cracking somebody's data?
[05:19] <Healot> i meant 002
[05:19] <jaeek> Healot, weird... i set that and it doesnt work... i might have to totally logout and back in for it to apply (not just su'ing in a shell)
[05:19] <Healot> if you want other to read and execute your files that is
[05:20] <Quinn> Im going to try the ATi way
[05:20] <intelikey> SkippyX if you use sudo wvdialconf /etc/.wvdial     then sudo gedit /etc/.wvdial    i think you'll like it.   although there are other cli apps.   as well as gui ones that will work.
[05:20] <brenner> Xenguy: i assume it's like deus ex :)
[05:20] <oldschool> i need gcc for compiling does anybody know how to get it
[05:20] <jaeek> is it possible to set the mask for a specific directory only?
[05:20] <oldschool> essential did not work
[05:20] <Healot> yes... you can...
[05:20] <blanky> oldschool, yes it does
[05:20] <Healot> but checkout the man, I can't verse switch and options well :)
[05:20] <blanky> oldschool, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:20] <oldschool> it says
[05:20] <brenner> i doubt he'd publicly tell us of his exploits :)
[05:21] <blanky> DO IT AGAIN
[05:21] <jaeek> the mkdir -m flag only sets the default permissions
[05:21] <blanky> oldschool, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:21] <blanky> DO IT AGAIN
[05:21] <lnx_> my system incorreclty reads the length of time left on my battery and goes into suspend unnecessarily, is there a way to change that?
[05:21] <blanky> what'd I say huh, what'd I say
[05:21] <Xenguy> you got /ignored?
[05:21] <blanky> lnx_, no there isn't, you'll have to live with it, suck it up like a man
[05:21] <brenner> heh
[05:21] <intelikey> SkippyX thats all that is involved in setting it up.    really easy simple and works well
[05:21] <oldschool> thanks
[05:21] <blanky> just kidding man, I'm not sure
[05:21] <Healot> jaeek, you need to chmod them manually, the login.defs sets all dir/files by default
[05:22] <oldschool> so now I can compile stuff?
[05:22] <blanky> oldschool, then issue gcc file.c -o file, for C, and g++ file.cpp -o file
[05:22] <SkippyX> intelikey, I just want to make sure that there's a gui front end on the install disk I just downloaded. Don't know anything abou sudo or any kind of scripting. I'm just a schmuck who doesn't like windows and has been using a remarkably easy distro for a long time.
[05:22] <blanky> oldschool, yes
[05:22] <jaeek> Healot, any ideas on how to set them? chmod doesnt do it... does it?
[05:22] <kinetic> i want to make a link to hda1 on my desktop. like when you mount media and it creates a shortcut on the desktop and you can right click it to view its freespace and size and stuff how can i do this?
[05:22] <Healot> it can... if you chmod with the right permission...
[05:22] <oldschool> issue? what do you mean, i am sord of new to ubuntu
[05:23] <bluefoxicy> a
[05:23] <bluefoxicy> who the fuck packaged this game
[05:23] <jaeek> Healot, i've been looing around and cant find directory level umask settings
[05:23] <Bandit> :)
[05:23] <oldschool> issue?
[05:23] <blanky> oldschool, be oldschool
[05:23] <Healot> jaeek, if it is for a partition, just a the option "umask=XXXX" to a partition list... the mask will set accordingly
[05:23] <bluefoxicy> "The owner of a burger bar in Otomo Junction was fined $2000 for selling food products which contravined official regulations.  Analysts showed that the burgers contained unacceptibly high levels of human waste."
[05:24] <bluefoxicy> of WHAT?!
[05:24] <blanky> oldschool, issue means do
[05:24] <asymmetry> ... Dude.
[05:24] <intelikey> SkippyX i've been on mdk for several years too.  and still like it.    but linux's strength is in the command line.   you will need to learn a little bit about it.   no matter what distro......  assuming you admin your own box.
[05:24] <Quinn> Im sure the Offical drivers will be better than the other ones :)
[05:24] <blanky> oldschool, if you're compiling C, type "gcc yourfile.c -o yourfile"
[05:24] <blanky> if it's C++ do "g++ yourfile.cpp -o yourfile"
[05:24] <SkippyX> intelikey, I do. But, honestly, once I got the MDK box configured, there's been no admin to do.
[05:24] <Healot> jaeek, if the dir is there already you need to chmod, manually, however you can chmod a dir automatically during mkdir
[05:24] <blanky> you do know what you're doing right? You do know how to program? or are you trying to compile tarballs, in which case you'd issue the make commands
[05:25] <oldschool> how do i make a file .cc, do I type it in wordpad type thing
[05:25] <blanky> guys what's the order of the make commands, ./configure, make install, make clean ?
[05:25] <jaeek> Healot, well, how do you set the umask on a directory?
[05:25] <intelikey> SkippyX i haven't ever installed x on this box   lol
[05:25] <oldschool> i want to start learning c
[05:25] <blanky> oldschool, what are you trying to do
[05:25] <brenner> blanky: heard of checkinstall?
[05:25] <oldschool> in linux
[05:25] <Healot> you ddon;t, you chmod them...
[05:25] <oldschool> learn to compile c in linux
[05:25] <blanky> oldschool, well I can't help you learn C
[05:25] <blanky> but I can help you compile C
[05:25] <brenner> oldschool: offtopic
[05:26] <Healot> the rest will follow, accordingly
[05:26] <kakap2hh> ewww
[05:26] <kakap2hh> i just installed Ubuntu basic server
[05:26] <blanky> you first create a new C file, open gedit and save the file as 'yourfile.c'
[05:26] <kakap2hh> and theres no root for me!
[05:26] <SkippyX> intelikey, one of the reasons I downloaded ubuntu was because it's a Debian-based distro. apt & synaptic sound really attractive to me after years of dependency hell. urpmi is a pain in the butt.
[05:26] <kakap2hh> it didnt asked for me to set any root password
[05:26] <kakap2hh> and i cant log in to root pword!
[05:26] <Healot> but for new directory you can apply umask... when mkdir them
[05:26] <blanky> and then type in the terminal "gcc yourfile.c -o yourfile"
[05:26] <brenner> kakap2hh: sudo
[05:26] <asymmetry> kakap2hh: thats because you never SHOULD log into root
[05:26] <Madpilot> kakap2hh: use sudo and your own user pw
[05:26] <asymmetry> kakap2hh: sudo <command> is your friend.
[05:26] <kakap2hh> and i can never log in as root?
[05:26] <kakap2hh> even to that tty1 using ctrl+alt+F1?
[05:26] <asymmetry> kakap2hh: why would you?
[05:26] <oldschool> k thanks
[05:26] <kakap2hh> well i have to use prefix sudo constantly when maintaing erver
[05:27] <asymmetry> kakap2hh: logging into root is kinda not too brilliant
[05:27] <Healot> jaeek, anyway, do a umask XXXX in a dir would work...
[05:27] <blanky> oldschool
[05:27] <blanky> tid id towkr
[05:27] <asymmetry> kakap2hh: then try 'sudo bash'
[05:27] <blanky> in other words, did it work
[05:27] <kakap2hh> but i wanna log into root, i know the risks
[05:27] <blanky> !root
[05:27] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:27] <Healot> check out the default umask... just type 'umask' on any dir
[05:27] <intelikey> kakap2hh or the prefered  sudo -i
[05:27] <blanky> kakap2hh, type !root
[05:27] <jaeek> Healot, i think you should read the man page for chmod... you can not set umask on dirs
[05:27] <SkippyX> intelikey, really? From what I've read, "apt" is supposed to be the "be all, end all" of package management systems.
[05:27] <kakap2hh> !root
[05:28] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu.  US servers are mostly...
[05:28] <jaeek> Healot, i didnt want my users to have to worry about that
[05:29] <brenner> ubotu: tell kakap2hh about mirrors
[05:29] <SkippyX> intelikey, agreed. I've read quite a bit of good about apt, though. I'm looking forward to using it.
[05:29] <instabin> how do i mount an iso image
[05:29] <jaeek> Healot, thanks for the help ;)
[05:29] <oldschool> i not doing anything, i just wanted to know blanky, thanks though
[05:30] <brenner> ubotu: tell instabin about mountiso
[05:30] <asymmetry> !mountiso
[05:30] <ubotu> To mount a ISO file, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/mntpoint
[05:30] <blanky> oldschool, no problem
[05:30] <blanky> kakap2hh, did it work
[05:30] <Healot> mount -o loop <iso image>
[05:30] <Healot> and path of course...
[05:30] <Hivemind> M'kay. I'm trying to reinstall GRUB ('cause I re-installed WindowsXP) and I'm currently using the LiveCD that came with Ubuntu. I was wondering if there is any way to figure out my partitions from here, anyone?
[05:30] <instabin> thanks
[05:30] <koin> hi, anybody speaks spanish here ?
[05:30] <Madpilot> !tell Hivemind about grub
[05:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !es
[05:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:31] <koin> ok thanks
[05:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> np
[05:31] <SkippyX> Hmm. I'd better install the whole mess on another drive and keep the mdk drive running until I've got the ubuntu drive configured to my liking.
[05:31] <brenner> Hivemind: sudo fdisk -l
[05:31] <lnx_> is there anyway to change the amount of time read from your battery
[05:31] <Hivemind> Okies.
[05:32] <carcrashnights> Hi all. Does anyone happen to know how to see which flags were used when building a package?
[05:32] <intelikey> SkippyX yes..... mmmm and then why mess up a good thing.... i have one box here with 5 os's on it.
[05:32] <Hivemind> brenner: Thanks!
[05:33] <brenner> np
[05:33] <Hivemind> !LVM
[05:33] <ubotu> hmm... lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[05:33] <SkippyX> lol - yeah - I was planning on two OS's. ubuntu & win XP (which will only see the web for updates). Gonna use the winxp drive for games.
[05:34] <corvax> what version of banshee does dapper have?
[05:34] <Jivemonkey> http://kevin.mesiab.com/wordpress/index.php/projects/linux-cluster-the-genesis/
[05:34] <Bandit> doesnt look like it gets easier in here
[05:34] <odla> !info banshee dapper
[05:34] <ubotu> banshee: (Audio Managment and Playback application), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.10.4-1ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 790 kB, Installed size: 2440 kB
[05:34] <Jivemonkey> oops
[05:35] <SkippyX> OK - dinner is done. bbiab.
[05:35] <corvax> sweet
[05:35] <odla> dapper is pretty sweet!
[05:35] <odla> especially deskbar-applet
[05:35] <corvax> breezy version is useless
[05:35] <robertj> does anyone know if turbo-tax offers a web-version of state?
[05:35] <corvax> doesnt support plugins
[05:36] <asymmetry> robertj: yes, because thats how i did it
[05:36] <corvax> robert turbo tax for th web
[05:36] <corvax> works great
[05:36] <kinetic> !wmv
[05:36] <robertj> asym: yeah
[05:36] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:36] <robertj> asym: where at?
[05:36] <corvax> i use it  every year
[05:36] <asymmetry> robertj: turbotax.com
[05:36] <robertj> I did mine with TaxCut but feel a bit iffy about it
[05:36] <robertj> asymmetry, I just see Federal
[05:36] <corvax> in linux
[05:36] <corvax> ofcourse
[05:36] <corvax> firefox
[05:36] <intelikey> Bandit what are you on about ?
[05:36] <asymmetry> robertj: just keep going, state's in there
[05:37] <corvax> if you make 27 k or less  its free
[05:37] <robertj> asym: is it free with federal or extra?
[05:37] <robertj> corvax, sorry don't qualify
[05:37] <xiaoyu> !ubuntu,
[05:37] <asymmetry> robertj: dont recall, sorry
[05:37] <asymmetry> robertj: it might be a little extra, but not much
[05:37] <corvax> me either :(
[05:38] <Bandit> intelikey I said it doesnt look like it gets any easier in here
[05:38] <robertj> btw googling for Turbo tax 15% discount seems to be worth the time ;)
[05:38] <corvax> bandit  whats hard?
[05:38] <intelikey> what exactly is "it" Bandit ?
[05:38] <asymmetry> robertj: i didnt pay anything, federal or state
[05:38] <kevogod> Is anyone else having trouble with Samba shares?
[05:40] <Quinn> IT STILL DOESNT WORK /CRY :(
[05:41] <Quinn> I just installed ATi's drives and it dident do any thing
[05:41] <Quinn> This has been a waste of like 5 hours
[05:41] <Hivemind> I've encountered another obstacle. hdb2's system is Extended, hdb5's is "Linux LVM" which is / ?
[05:42] <Quinn> !tell Quinn ATi
[05:42] <asymmetry> !lvm
[05:42] <ubotu> somebody said lvm was (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[05:42] <kinetic> !vlc
[05:42] <ubotu> [vlc]  a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[05:42] <asymmetry> Hivemind: Logical Volume Manager - Kinda like a DOS extended partition.
[05:42] <brenner> Hivemind: type mount
[05:42] <Quinn> Why does my screen saver's LAG :(
[05:43] <robertj> asymmetry, ooh it's free until you file so I can try it out and then see if its worth the $$$
[05:43] <kinetic> quinn: most of the screensavers are taxing on video cards
[05:43] <Hivemind> brenner: It's a lot of gibberish to me. I'm quite new with Linux and Ubuntu.
[05:43] <Quinn> ?
[05:43] <brenner> Quinn: did you reboot after install?
[05:44] <Quinn> Yeah
[05:44] <asymmetry> robertj: yup - i didnt pay anything at all, even to file
[05:44] <kinetic> can someone go here ans tell me what binary to download?
[05:44] <kinetic> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[05:44] <Quinn> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:44] <Quinn> sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel
[05:44] <Quinn> reboot
[05:44] <Quinn> i dident do that
[05:44] <null_> hello
[05:44] <Quinn> because it dident work
[05:44] <null_> any one know if tk 8.5 beta is abailable on dapper  ?
[05:45] <Arafangion> Why doesn't this work? grep '.{3}' egfile
[05:45] <brenner> Hivemind: i have this line: /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[05:45] <Quinn> How can I tell if my graphics card is working probley
[05:45] <brenner> Hivemind: i assume that means /dev/hda2 is mounted as /
[05:45] <intelikey> !didn't work
[05:45] <ubotu> intelikey: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:45] <intelikey> !doesn't work
[05:45] <ubotu> doesn't work is, like, something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[05:45] <brenner> Quinn: you didn't do what?
[05:45] <Arafangion> intelikey: Well, grep '...' egfile does work, but the above expression doesn't.
[05:45] <Quinn> the stuff i pasted b4
[05:46] <Arafangion> intelikey: Instead of outputing all lines with more than three characters, it outputs *nothing*
[05:46] <brenner> Arafangion: cat egfile | grep '.{3}'
[05:46] <kinetic> can someone help me go here http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ and tell me what package i should get for ubuntu
[05:46] <Hivemind> brenner: Does the fact I'm booting from a LiveCD change any of the things in 'mount'?
[05:46] <brenner> Arafangion: maybe..
[05:46] <Arafangion> brenner: Nope.
[05:46] <brenner> Hivemind: er, not afaik
[05:46] <Bandit> intelikey sorry was on the phone my comment was in regards to all the problems
[05:47] <Hivemind> brenner: Okay. I believe I have enough info to restore grub. Thanks.
[05:47] <brenner> good luck
[05:47] <kinetic> can someone help me go here http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ and tell me what package i should get for ubuntu
[05:47] <intelikey> Arafangion grep [A-z] [A-z] [A-z]
[05:47] <Quinn> I think I found the problem
[05:47] <biloyp> i am having a problem installing the java package from sun
[05:47] <Quinn> would this screw up stuff?
[05:47] <Quinn> I found ATi files in my home directory
[05:48] <intelikey> Arafangion assuming you want at least 3 letters.
[05:48] <odla> kinetic: apt-cache search vlc
[05:48] <brenner> Quinn: you need to do those steps.  that's how you install the driver
[05:48] <Arafangion> intelikey: No, just any 3 characters.
[05:48] <Quinn> like etc
[05:48] <odla> kinetic: vlc is already packaged for ubuntu...btw you only need to ask your question once
[05:48] <Quinn> lib
[05:48] <Quinn> opt and user
[05:48] <Quinn> usr
[05:48] <brenner> biloyp: we can't help you unless you tell us the proble
[05:48] <kinetic> odla: i just put apt-cache search vlc in console?
[05:48] <Quinn> should i cut them and paste them into root
[05:48] <Ex-Cyber> where can I find documentation of the various mouse options in xorg.conf? the xorg.conf manual page only really describes the purpose of the various sections, not what the options do
[05:49] <intelikey> Arafangion alnum ?     or including space and punct. ?
[05:49] <odla> kinetic: yup or you search vlc in synaptic
[05:49] <asymmetry> synaptic, for the win
[05:49] <kinetic> odla: thx! :)
[05:49] <Arafangion> intelikey: Including numbers, letters, tabs.
[05:49] <odla> np
[05:49] <Quinn> did follow them
[05:49] <Quinn> they just dont work most of the time
[05:49] <brenner> most of the time?  i don't get you
[05:50] <biloyp> when I do this "sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common" i get " sudo: apt: command not found
[05:50] <_jason> Arafangion: either escape the {} as \{\} or use egrep
[05:50] <intelikey> Arafangion  grep -ve"??"      " That never came up"
[05:51] <Quinn> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:51] <Quinn> sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel
[05:51] <Quinn> reboot did not work
[05:51] <corvax> i found a nice repo that ugrades all things mono in breezy
[05:51] <Arafangion> _jason: I was under the impression that there is no expansion in '' strings?
[05:51] <corvax> fspot banshee
[05:51] <corvax> etc
 Choose "Generate distribution specific packages" and "Ubuntu" and the Ubuntu version you use. " That never came up"
[05:51] <Arafangion> _jason: Hmm, indeed, you're correct. Thanks.
[05:51] <brenner> Quinn: you didn't see that option when you ran the .run file?
[05:51] <Quinn> No
[05:51] <Quinn> It came up in a GUi this time
[05:52] <Quinn> and I clicked advanced
[05:52] <Quinn> and it did its thing
[05:52] <Quinn> then told me to reboot
[05:52] <Quinn> now my home directory has etc lib and a opt folder
[05:52] <lnx_> how do you remove the upgrade notification button from panel?
[05:52] <_jason> Arafangion: or grep -E, man grep explains it (kind of :P)
[05:53] <Quinn> I clicked Advanced because Standard said that they had no permisions
[05:53] <Quinn> do you think it installed it in the wrong place because it has no access
[05:53] <Arafangion> _jason: So the fault is with grep, not bash?
[05:53] <brenner> Quinn: you shouldn't have any created dirs.  you need to find that option that says "generate packages"  to get the deb files
[05:54] <Quinn> Man ive been at this for hours
[05:54] <_jason> Arafangion: it's not a fault, it's just the way it was written.  That's it's intended behavior afaik.  You were correct in saying that '' strings don't get expanded
[05:54] <brenner> Quinn: what's the run file called?
[05:54] <Arafangion> _jason: This is difficult.
[05:55] <biloyp> any idea what I am doing wrong
[05:55] <_jason> Arafangion: basically I use egrep if I wan't a regular expression.  If I just want something simple I do grep
[05:55] <kakei> hi does any body use firestarter and have problems with messenger ?
[05:55] <Arafangion> _jason: I'll do it in perl.
[05:55] <brenner> biloyp: are you sure you used that exact command?
[05:55] <brenner> biloyp: it should be apt-get (one word)
[05:56] <biloyp> brenner ahh ok let me try again
[05:56] <_jason> Arafangion: then you can use grep -P too for perl style regular expressions :)
[05:56] <brenner> i'm guessing the error is saying you did something like sudo apt -get
[05:56] <Syco54645> why when i try to connect to ftps does it get to the listing of directories then freeze?
[05:56] <intelikey> Arafangion did you get it working ?     cause i did.
[05:56] <Syco54645> then it disconnects
[05:57] <fr500> Healot: i vpn'd to the office and changed my default to the vpn, tried updating via the vpn and works fine, any clues  on why?
[05:57] <biloyp> brenner: thanks that was it
[05:57] <brenner> yw :)
[05:57] <hanasaki> my current debian install... etch.. sees my 120 gig ide hd fine.. bios and the sarge installer see it as a 33gig drive... what causes this?
[05:58] <brenner> hanasaki: er, shouldn't you be asking in #debian?
[05:58] <Arafangion> intelikey: Yup, but I actually wanted a slightly more complicated regexp, and that still refuses to work.
[05:58] <Arafangion> intelikey: Essentially I want (.*\t){3}
[05:58] <hanasaki> brenner: umm well its debian.. and its linux.. point is .. its about drivers.
[05:59] <hanasaki> i thinik..................
[05:59] <crxyem> so this might be a stupid question but is there a way  to create a link to a device on a panel ??
[05:59] <intelikey> Arafangion three chars after a tab ?
[05:59] <biloyp> brenner: after doing that, do move to "Selecting the defaullt Java version" as stated in the Restricted directions?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> crxyem,  you mean to a mounted directory? that doable.
[05:59] <odla> hanasaki: that's a question for #debian not #ubuntu
[05:59] <hanasaki> ok thanks
[05:59] <Arafangion> intelikey: No, the previous expression, matched 3 times.
[05:59] <Arafangion> intelikey: ie, '.*\t.*\t.*\t'
[06:00] <intelikey> oh   yeah   and same exp each time   ?
[06:00] <Arafangion> intelikey: Yes.
[06:00] <Arafangion> intelikey: It's a group.
[06:00] <biloyp> or do I do "fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin" next?
[06:00] <intelikey> hmmmm    i bet it can be done.
[06:01] <Mabus06> Anyone here use GSnes9x (or any other emulator)? I don't see any option to set the keys.
[06:01] <Arafangion> intelikey: Anyway, I'll just do it in perl
[06:01] <lnx_> how do you luanch remote desktop from terminal?
[06:01] <intelikey> could you use a verable in that Arafangion ?
[06:01] <intelikey>                     i
[06:01] <brenner> biloyp: you're doing sun java right?
[06:01] <brenner> biloyp: just follow the wiki
[06:01] <biloyp> brenner: yes
[06:02] <lnx_> how do you launch remote desktop from the terminal?
[06:02] <asymmetry> !dapper
[06:02] <odla> mabus06: i use zsnes
[06:02] <Arafangion> intelikey: Variable? Yes, I think so.
[06:02] <brenner> Mabus06: me too
[06:02] <odla> i think it works better than snes9x
[06:02] <Mabus06> Oh, they have zsnes on ubuntu? Nice. In the repos, or at zsnes.com?
[06:02] <odla> in the repos
[06:02] <Mabus06> sweet
[06:03] <Mabus06> thanks
[06:03] <odla> to set the keys type zsnes
[06:03] <odla> np
[06:03] <molotov_> I'm having trouble printing on my ubuntu machine from my XP machine. I can print just fine on my ubuntu machine, but can't add the printer on my XP machine. I don't think I know what NAME to put in the printer URL: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/[name]
[06:03] <Psykus> i just installed flash, and for some reason i'm not getting any audio
[06:03] <Mabus06> I'm familiar with windows zsnes, odla. Should be figure-out-able
[06:03] <lnx_> how do you launch remote desktop from the terminal?
[06:03] <kakei> hi does any body use firestarter and can't to msn ?
[06:03] <odla> mabus06: sounds good
[06:03] <jaeek> i'm trying to change my default umask... i changed it in /etc/profile and installed libpam-umask but i cant get it to work
[06:03] <Psykus> ok, nevermind, I restarted firefox, works now
[06:04] <brenner> that was a quick fix
[06:04] <hanasaki> hmm ok.. tried ubuntu also.. the 120 gig drive still shows as 33gig from bios and the ubuntu installer.... why is this
[06:04] <Psykus> heh
[06:04] <KakiPukul> jaeek, it only set the umask if you create a new dir/file
[06:04] <biloyp> brenner: I did this "  sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common" and the install semed to work. DO i do "fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin" next as stated in the wiki?
[06:05] <KakiPukul> hanasaki, you need to work out the CHS parameter of the disk first... did you set LBA of your HDD on your BIOS
[06:05] <odla> biloyp: yup
[06:05] <brenner> biloyp: like i said.  just follow the wiki
[06:05] <fr500> can anyone help me with my apt problems?
[06:05] <hanasaki> lba?
[06:05] <Psykus> is there any sort of test I can do to make sure hardware accelleration for my video card is working?
[06:05] <XaeroVincent> yay... i got MP3 support and access to my NTFS drive... :D.... wiki.ubuntu rules!
[06:05] <KakiPukul> new to harddisk term, huh?
[06:05] <brenner> Psykus: glxinfo | grep rendering
[06:05] <hanasaki> KakiPukul: the bios has a detect and auto setup for the HD
[06:05] <_jason> Arafangion: apparently you need a $ preceding the quoted string for it to match \t, I never knew that... I think perl is looking better more and more :)
[06:05] <neonpaul> What all is required to get mplayer to compile with OpenGL support?
[06:05] <KakiPukul> well, does your bios says 120GB? then
[06:06] <biloyp> just wanteeeedddd to make sure cuz this "If you get an error when installing java-package, you need to enable the multiverse repository (see AddingRepositoriesHowto).
[06:06] <biloyp> Use make-jpkg to translate Sun's bin file into a debian package" is in between those 2 commands
[06:06] !lilo:*! "I lift this clavicle to worlds without number, and bring a new light to the Way, guiding this gate that all may prosper, those who guide and are guided, who light the Way and bask in the light so given....Behold, I open a new world!"
[06:06] <hanasaki> KakiPukul: the usb 120gig and the other ide 120 gig are rfound fine as 120gig each
[06:06] <KakiPukul> sometimes, you btter set the LBA option manually, and stays there
[06:06] <Arafangion> _jason: What the heck? That's insane!
[06:06] !lilo:*! whoops, ignore :) haven't used that one in a while :)
[06:06] <Psykus> says "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." for 3 lines, "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual" for one, and then "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." for 4 more
[06:06] <brenner> XaeroVincent: i wish all question-askers were like you. :)
[06:06] <Arafangion> _jason: Using $ should be "Get value of the variable referred to by the string..."
[06:06] <hanasaki> lba is logical block addressing?  hmm what else could it be set to and when do i want lba vs the others?
[06:07] <h3ax> mm
[06:07] <KakiPukul> biloyp, for Sun Java JDK/JRE .... you btter install it manually :)
[06:07] <_jason> Arafangion: guess it's special with the quotes
[06:07] <Arafangion> _jason: I'll just use perl ;)
[06:07] <brenner> biloyp: "Use make-jpkg to translate Sun's bin file into a debian package:" refers to the command below it .. hence the colon
[06:07] <biloyp> ok thxs
[06:07] <KakiPukul> just run the installer, copy the extracted dir to somewhere, and do ln -s /<sun java> /usr/bin/java
[06:08] <null_> KakiPukul, its not that easy
[06:08] <KakiPukul> it's every easy :)
[06:08] <rixth> KakiPukul, you don't do it like that...
[06:08] <brenner> KakiPukul: shhh.  he's following the wiki :)
[06:08] <hanasaki> i use alot of java... make=jpkg works like a champ.. so does jsut installing it  and adding /opt/java___ver__/bin to the path
[06:08] <odla> KakiPukul: why do that if you can make a deb package?
[06:08] <odla> that's silly
[06:08] <Psykus> brenner, so it's not working I guess?
[06:08] <null_> u need to use the update-alternatives
[06:08] <rixth> It is sudo update-alternatives --config java or something
[06:08] <null_> :)
[06:08] <brenner> Psykus: what's not working?
[06:08] <KakiPukul> who needs a deb package?
[06:08] <KakiPukul> the installer is fine by its own right...
[06:08] <odla> KakiPukul: why use a deb based distro then?
[06:08] <brenner> people who care to remove stuff later if they want to
[06:09] <hanasaki> KakiPukul:yup!
[06:09] <Psykus> says "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." for 3 lines, "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual" for one, and then "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." for 4 more
[06:09] <KakiPukul> well, not for Java... too cumbersome...
[06:09] <odla> KakiPukul: so you can use apt-get, dpkg
[06:09] <hanasaki> KakiPukul:  umm when would i wnat other than lba?
[06:09] <odla> KakiPukul: no it's not
[06:09] <Psykus> hardware acceleration I mean
[06:09] <KakiPukul> LBA for large drive...
[06:09] <hanasaki> hmm brb.. gonna try
[06:09] <hanasaki> thanks
[06:09] <KakiPukul> others option will not support your large drive...
[06:10] <KakiPukul> It's easier for me... maybe not for you...
[06:10] <brenner> Psykus: i'm guessing the glx module isn't loaded.  check your xorg.conf file
[06:10] <brenner> Psykus: it should be in the "Module" section
[06:10] <KakiPukul> extract,. copy and link... most java programs work fine... for any users too...
[06:11] <h3ax> arg
[06:11] <brenner> look guys! its a pirate!
[06:11] <Psykus> brenner, k
[06:12] <Psykus> under section "Module", it says Load "glx"
[06:12] <ThePhur> im a pirate too, i download music illegally off limewire =]
[06:12] <KakiPukul> dl?  I tried apt-get install fileutils, but that switched to coreutils instead and then reported that I already have the the newest version of coreutils.
[06:22] <HammerBlade2020> ThePhur, same exact thing for me
[06:22] <KakiPukul> a FAT-Xtended PArtition
[06:22] <ThePhur> i use windows ONLY for counter-strike (game) and to transfer music onto my mp3 player. but that;s it, otherwise im in ubuntu or slackware
[06:23] <KakiPukul> starting cylinder 33 and end cylinder 14596
[06:23] <HammerBlade2020> ThePhur, you could use ubuntu for both of those
[06:23] <ThePhur> im sure i could, but im sure configuring would be a bitch
[06:23] <hanasaki> how is fat extended differnet from plain extended?
[06:23] <KoMpLoT> Hi everyone!
[06:23] <h3ax> anybody got some links or something for some Terminal overlays tired of standart Term hehe
[06:23] <ThePhur> because my mp3 player needs windows media player for transferring media onto the mp3 player
[06:23] <brenner> biloyp: paste the exact command you used, and the exact error
[06:24] <ThePhur> and i dont know if i could run windows media player in WINE
[06:24] <KakiPukul> anyways, Windows or GNU/Linux doesn't really matter as long it serves my purposes
[06:24] <psycho_oreos> WMP in wine.. ewuk
[06:24] <brenner> ThePhur: is it a usb connection?
[06:24] <h3ax> GNU/linux FTW
[06:24] <psycho_oreos> ever given amaroK a try?
[06:24] <biloyp> sudo dpkg -i sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[06:24] <ThePhur> true..but i find i have MANY less errors on linux
[06:24] <KakiPukul> hanasaki, FAT extended means, it a partition with 1 or many logical drives in it...
[06:24] <ThePhur> and it freezes almost never
[06:24] <crxyem> so is there a way to add a link to a device on a panel
[06:24] <intelikey> !info wine
[06:24] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB
[06:24] <ThePhur> yes, it plugs into USB
[06:25] <biloyp> dpkg: error processing sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb (--install):
[06:25] <biloyp>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[06:25] <biloyp> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:25] <biloyp>  sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[06:25] <KakiPukul> and the base partition is FAT
[06:25] <h3ax> well if the Mobo on mys serv did die my Ubuntu serv would still run
[06:25] <psycho_oreos> biloyp: where is the file that you have put on it?
[06:25] <h3ax> hit 8months
[06:25] <h3ax> and died
[06:25] <intelikey> lol (Binary Emulator and Library) ^     wine = wine is not an emulator
[06:25] <hanasaki> thanks
[06:25] <psycho_oreos> ThePhur: give amaroK a try :p
[06:25] <lilo> HammerBlade2020: dlines are often used for a quick kill
[06:25] <KakiPukul> hey, how do you like... nvu?
[06:25] <lilo> HammerBlade2020: I followed it up with timed klines
[06:25] <hanasaki> KakiPukul: i ahve tried "large" and "lba" in the bios and it doesnt see the disk as more than 33gig
[06:25] <brenner> ThePhur: so you don't get a nifty desktop icon as if it were a usb stick?
[06:26] <Kyral> hey its lilo :D
[06:26] <ThePhur> will do, thanks psycho_oreos
[06:26] <biloyp> phsycho it is in my Home directory
[06:26] <HammerBlade2020> lilo, oh, okay
[06:26] <hanasaki> its a failrly new mobo and sees all the other 120gig drives fine
[06:26] <lilo> hey Kyral
[06:26] <Kyral> Thanks for the help :D
[06:26] <HammerBlade2020> lilo, well thanks for removing those losers
[06:26] <psycho_oreos> ThePhur: np
[06:26] <lilo> HammerBlade2020: I didn't actually see the flood here, but I saw some evidence of their presence and followed them to a channel
[06:26] <KakiPukul> hanasaki, do you know about the IDE disk switch during Ubuntu/Debian install?
[06:26] <ThePhur> anyone here use Slackware besides me..even though i know this is an ubuntu server
[06:26] <HammerBlade2020> yea they were just two or three moron
[06:26] <KakiPukul> try to use that switch first...
[06:26] <lilo> HammerBlade2020: I noticed one of those unpleasantly-named clients was on #ubuntu, which we'd consider prima facie to be a troll
[06:26] <h3ax> lilo guys like that should end up on global ban
[06:26] <hanasaki> no idea.. what switch?
[06:26] <psycho_oreos> biloyp: dpkg --install $home/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[06:27] <lilo> h3ax: that's not technically possible
[06:27] <HammerBlade2020> lilo, in here of course
[06:27] <KakiPukul> anyway, what version of the distro are u using?
[06:27] <biloyp> ok thxs I'lll try that
[06:27] <lilo> h3ax: the ones who want to harass just find another proxy or trojaned host
[06:27] <lilo> h3ax: but we follow them as well as we can
[06:27] <h3ax> sure
[06:27] <HammerBlade2020> somone check this out and tell me it isn't a work of art http://www.demonlegion.net/private/Hammer/Pics/Linux/bar.png
[06:27] <KakiPukul> hanasaki, refer to the distro install documentation...
[06:27] <h3ax> i know but well we can only keep banning them
[06:27] <hanasaki> KakiPukul:  i tired debian sarge, ubuntu breezy
[06:27] <hanasaki> both
[06:28] <KakiPukul> you'll find the switch for IDE disk and it's CHS switch
[06:28] <KakiPukul> yes...
[06:28] <KakiPukul> try to check out the switch. it might work :)
[06:28] <hanasaki> KakiPukul:  wher can i find that doc? pls
[06:28] <KakiPukul> or Stick to MS Windows, I recommend this :) hehe
[06:28] <Madpilot> back - looks like I missed some excitment... :P
[06:28] <ThePhur> HammerBlade2020: indeed, tis a piece of art
[06:28] <KakiPukul> it's on the CD or debian/ubuntu's website
[06:28] <hanasaki> KakiPukul: :P you MS dolt hehe
[06:28] <HammerBlade2020> ThePhur, thanks, :-)
[06:28] <ThePhur> nice launcher bar.
[06:28] <KakiPukul> or google it
[06:28] <ThePhur> is that yours?
[06:29] <HammerBlade2020> thank you, i collected those icons from all over
[06:29] <HammerBlade2020> yes it is.
[06:29] <ThePhur> is that a GDesklet?
[06:29] <HammerBlade2020> nope
[06:29] <xiaoyu> how to open a link in a new tab not a new window in firefox
[06:29] <HammerBlade2020> it's xfce with a black theme and hand picked icons
[06:29] <ThePhur> what is it?
[06:29] <ThePhur> ooohh
[06:29] <brenner> xfce bar it seems
[06:29] <KakiPukul> lemme check out the switch fist...
[06:29] <HammerBlade2020> yea
[06:29] <ThePhur> XFCE is nice
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> xiaoyu,  middle click i think.
[06:29] <HammerBlade2020> XFCE is good but not pretty without hard work
[06:29] <^Odd^> anyone here good with ati cards?
[06:29] <hanasaki> doing google now
[06:29] <IdleOne> !ati
[06:30] <tim_> during an opera install it says i need xlib6g i am using apt-get to try to get it bur it says its missing or obsolete
[06:30] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:30] <ThePhur> ive used XFCE before..i really like it..but i never tried to trick it out or anything
[06:30] <KakiPukul> anyways, it's on the doc/install/en dir of your Debian/ubuntu install CD, hanasaki
[06:30] <xiaoyu> Dr_Willis, i want to open the link just with a click
[06:30] <ThePhur> its got dozens and dozens of window decos. and themes for that thing
[06:30] <KakiPukul> checkoput index.html, hanasaki
[06:30] <HammerBlade2020> ThePhur, yea i got really tired of gnome and i don't like kde one bit
[06:30] <biloyp> phsycho_oreos: I did and got this "biloyp: dpkg --install $home/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.de"
[06:30] <tim_> it says package xlib6g is not available
[06:30] <xiaoyu> Dr_Willis, some times it will open in a new window
[06:30] <hanasaki> KakiPukul:  thanks.. bumm why the heck would the bios see the usb and other ide 120 gig dirves fine.. and not just this one?
[06:31] <ThePhur> KDE has loads of features but i like my gnome
[06:31] <intelikey> loads
[06:31] <ThePhur> but above all, Fluxbox is my one of choice
[06:31] <HammerBlade2020> i just don't like kde, not even sure why
[06:31] <brenner> tim_: are you following the wiki?
[06:31] <HammerBlade2020> i tried fluxbox, didn't like it either
[06:31] <tim_> no
[06:31] <ThePhur> ah..well i write themes for fluxbox so i like it
[06:31] <KakiPukul> on IDE, it's based on the CHS settings, USB makes it see the disk as a removable disk, a different methodology
[06:31] <tim_> how do i find the wiki
[06:31] <ThePhur> i also write themes for gnome
[06:31] <ThePhur> or used to anyway
[06:31] <tim_> im new to this so forgive me
[06:31] <psycho_oreos> biloyp: you are supposed to type the full name of the file, try typing the first few letters of the file, press tab after typing a few characters. It should fill the rest for you. If you have duplicates it will beep and it will show you how many other files have similar names
[06:31] <brenner> tim_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[06:31] <wickedpuppy> !wiki
[06:32] <ThePhur> but finding good themes for KDE is really hard
[06:32] <HammerBlade2020> ThePhur, xfce uses gtk themes :-)
[06:32] <ThePhur> i find that gnome has less features, but has eye-candy up the yin yang
[06:32] <KakiPukul> hanasaki, checkout section 5 of the ubuntu's install doc
[06:32] <hanasaki> KakiPukul:  ah.. got it on usb.. hmm but the other ide 120gig is fine in bios.
[06:32] <HammerBlade2020> ThePhur, meaning xfce themes will work with gnome and vice-versa
[06:32] <ThePhur> yep
[06:32] <ThePhur> i really do love all three
[06:33] <ThePhur> fluxbox, gnome, xfce (how much ive used of it)
[06:33] <hanasaki> KakiPukul: is that avail online?
[06:33] <KakiPukul> yes, on CD and online
[06:33] <brenner> ThePhur: what's your current desktop look like?
[06:33] <ThePhur> im in gnome right now
[06:33] <hanasaki> hmm looking.. i am trying to find the online..
[06:33] <HammerBlade2020> yea, take a scrot :-p
[06:33] <KakiPukul> hanasaki, when you on the install, press those F keys... you'll the all the boot params
[06:33] <ThePhur> i would take a screen shot brenner, but i have no where to post it
[06:34] <ilba7r> !xgl
[06:34] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[06:34] <hanasaki> k.. umm but i really would like to get it to show ok in bios first
[06:34] <hanasaki> that bad?
[06:34] <XaeroVincent> can I upgrade to FireFox 1.5?
[06:34] <HammerBlade2020> ThePhur, you need image hosting you mean?
[06:34] <brenner> ThePhur: imageshack.us
[06:34] <ThePhur> yeah..basically
[06:35] <ThePhur> if i did, id move into Fluxbox and take a screenshot with the theme i recently made in use
[06:35] <HammerBlade2020> ThePhur, imageshack.us is free
[06:35] <HammerBlade2020> and good.
[06:35] <meheren> is gentoo linux much different then ubuntu?
[06:35] <ThePhur> hey, thanks HammerBlade2020..i'll try it
[06:35] <intelikey> hanasaki unless you intend to use it for the boot disk bios means nothing to linux
[06:35] <KakiPukul> way different... meheren
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> meheren,  yes. :P
[06:35] <meheren> kakipukul, in what ways?
[06:35] <crxyem> so any help with panels ??
[06:35] <psycho_oreos> paste.ubuntu-nl.org can also allow you to host images under reasonable measures
[06:35] <hanasaki> hmm gotcha. thanks.. just seems like something must be "Wrong": if the other drives show up ok
[06:35] <XaeroVincent> u compile everything :)
[06:35] <meheren> dr_willis, would you say it's better?
[06:35] <hanasaki> no?
[06:36] <XaeroVincent> *everything*!!
[06:36] <brenner> crxyem: what's the prob?
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> meheren,  depends on the task
[06:36] <biloyp> physho_oreo: Tab worked for some files but not for the "sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb "
[06:36] <meheren> xaerovincent, sooo you don't have many packages that are precompiled and redy to un...?
[06:37] <KakiPukul> the installer system, file system structure... etc... the only similarity is they are Linux based OSes?
[06:37] <ThePhur> hey ill brb..im gonna move into fluxbox and take a screenshot, and post it on imageshack
[06:37] <ThePhur> brb
[06:37] <crxyem> I'd like to be aable to ad a like to a device ,like /dev/sda0 on a panel , can it be done ?
[06:37] <meheren> dr_willis, like just doing the normal everday stuff checking e-mail playing games browsin web...
[06:37] <HammerBlade2020> does anyone know if xmms2 is stable yet?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> meheren,  the gentoo home page has loads of info and a faq. :P
[06:37] <XaeroVincent> meheren... u have to build the OS from sources... can take several days on a hot new machine!
[06:37] <psycho_oreos> biloyp: and you are in the correct directory for tha file?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> meheren,  you wont gain much from Gentoo then.
[06:38] <XaeroVincent> portage... might be cool... but I'd just use BSD instead
[06:38] <XaeroVincent> with ports
[06:38] <meheren> dr_willis,xearo vincent, ok...
[06:38] <KakiPukul> it's up to your suit...
[06:38] <KakiPukul> ubuntu/deb based or gentoo
[06:38] <brenner> crxyem: only thing i can think of is a launcher that runs nautilus and opens up to the device
[06:38] <Madpilot> hmm... what does "cannot connect to X server" mean when I'm trying to launch a program?
[06:38] <meheren> sounds like il be staying with ubuntu untill the debian site is back up...
[06:39] <meheren> does anyone no what's up with the debian resporsity site being down?
[06:39] <XaeroVincent> with a little work you can get ubuntu to do what u want
[06:39] <meheren> yeh i no
[06:39] <intelikey> or slack gz based   or rpm based   or....
[06:39] <crxyem> I'll look into trying that, doesn't seem to be any other way to do it
[06:39] <biloyp> physho_oreo: yes..I did a "ls" and it listed the files. "sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb " showed up in red. I am using the Terminal program to do this
[06:39] <meheren> my goal is to have it do what i want without the little work... lol
[06:39] <KakiPukul> checkut the size of that file, biloyp
[06:40] <interspec> Evening all
[06:40] <biloyp> hhow
[06:40] <KakiPukul> meheren, use slackware-based GNU/linux then
[06:40] <XaeroVincent> meheren... i dont see how thats really possible with Linux
[06:40] <Madpilot> biloyp: ls -l
[06:40] <XaeroVincent> or BSD
[06:40] <KakiPukul> by doing ls?
[06:40] <Madpilot> biloyp_: even better, "ls -lh" (that's a lowercase L)
[06:40] <blanky> hey guys, please dont tell me to ask in #kubuntu, but if I want to use kde and gnome, would it be better to instal ubuntu then kde or kubuntu then gnome
[06:40] <KakiPukul> why you want to make things harder to use, at least for yourself?
[06:40] <biloyp> -rw-r--r--  1 biloyp biloyp 30755102 2006-02-25 23:11 sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[06:41] <biloyp> 30 megs
[06:41] <bubba> i need help with my wireless... ndiswrapper loads bcmwl5 driver, says hardware present, but i dont have a wlan0.
[06:41] <Madpilot> blanky: either way, AFAIK
[06:41] <schmity> heey
[06:41] <psycho_oreos> blanky: whichever way suits for you, but I was told that many installs ubuntu first then gets kubuntu-desktop afterwards. Inherently I followed the same way
[06:41] <brenner> blanky: if only for the reason that i've heard a few people have problems w/ kubuntu, i'd go with the ubuntu route
[06:41] <interspec> can anyone advise with problems getting totem to run in ubuntu
[06:41] <meheren> i guess what i mean is sorta like have a bunch of setings that can easily be changed to make things different without having to do much to anything else but those settings...
[06:42] <psycho_oreos> interspec: I presume you need something like gstreamer
[06:42] <meheren> ?so i should check out free bsd then huh
[06:42] <pianoboy3333> how do I get rid of xfce and everything it installed? (dapper)
[06:42] <rob> !automatrix
[06:42] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rob
[06:42] <KakiPukul> blanky, the order does not matter, the thing is you must install kde to get kde :)
[06:42] <rob> bah
[06:42] <Madpilot> !automatix
[06:42] <interspec> gstreamer ill give it a go
[06:42] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[06:42] <blanky> brenner, could you pleeaassee rephrase that, please
[06:42] <Madpilot> rob: not "matrix" but "matix"
[06:42] <rob> thanks Madpilot :)
[06:42] <Madpilot> np
[06:43] <IdleOne> blanky:  ubuntu then kde
[06:43] <brenner> blanky: some people had problems w/ kubuntu installs.  i've never had a problem w/ ubuntu installs that we'rent my fault.  therefore i'd go with ubuntu
[06:43] <pianoboy3333> How do I get rid of xfce?
[06:43] <meheren> what version of bsd would you (general you here...) consider the best for everyday things...?
[06:43] <blanky> brenner, ah okay thanks sir
[06:43] <meheren> (netBSD freeBSD BSD...)
[06:43] <IdleOne> pianoboy3333:  sudo aptitude -purge xfce4
[06:44] <biloyp_> yep 30M
[06:44] <corvax> apt-get --purge removexfce
[06:44] <blanky> anyone who uses kde, (Please dont tell me to ask #kubuntu, im asking you guys), have you guys had any problems with it? Sorry I'm writing an article
[06:44] <brenner> blanky: but that's just my opinion
[06:44] <blanky> thanks brenner
[06:44] <blanky> lol
[06:44] <meheren> nope
[06:44] <thewayofzen> using firefox 1.5.1 on ubuntu dapper.   when i click on a torrent file it opens automatically in gnome torrent but i want to associate the file with AZUREUS..   ive gone to  EDIT > PREFERENCES > DOWNLOADS > VIEW AND EDIT ACTIONS   and there is no file type for .torrent but also no way to CREATE one.. help?
[06:44] <meheren> i use kde and i love it :)
[06:44] <blanky> thanks meheren
[06:44] <pianoboy3333> IdleOne: No tengo aptitude
[06:44] <jjross> thats funny , i used automatix with breezy and i thought is great, cant wait till he can do it for dapper
[06:45] <psycho_oreos> blanky: so far not really, but in some ways I've kinda slowly turned into using gnome on my box. After using KDE a while :) I have found familiar grounds
[06:45] <IdleOne> pianoboy3333:  usas sudo apt-get remove xfce4
[06:45] <meheren> very costomizable but it can be a little slow at times... with all the cool stuff it has...
[06:45] <blanky> psycho_oreos, thanks
[06:45] <psycho_oreos> blanky: np
[06:45] <IdleOne> pianoboy3333:  si quieres te lo dogi in francais tan bien :P
[06:45] <pianoboy3333> IdleOne: it says it's not installed
[06:45] <Madpilot> Need a hand with this - I ran "brian@warbard:~/opera-9.0-beta$ ./opera" and instead of launching Opera I got "opera: cannot connect to X server" - wha???
[06:45] <IdleOne> then it isnt
[06:45] <intelikey> blanky you know i'm a cli guy,  but i have used ubunut/kde without error. (hoary)    "note; that it was not installed long. 2 days"
[06:46] <pianoboy3333> IdleOne:?
[06:46] <blanky> IdleOne eso es espanol jaja
[06:46] <blanky> intelikey, lol okay thanks
[06:46] <IdleOne> blanky:  yo se . mais je peut lui dire en francais aussi :P
[06:46] <psycho_oreos> Madpilot: try running it on terminal, if not, try running it from a command line that is a gnome desktop applet. Maybe it might help
[06:46] <jjross> thewayofzen; try right clicking on the file and see if it gives you "open with"
[06:46] <blanky> bon, je parle un peu du francais aussi :)
[06:46] <KakiPukul> wait a sec, can pastebin accept image?
[06:46] <blanky> mais ne pas tres bien
[06:46] <brenner> psycho_oreos: he *is* running it in term
[06:47] <Madpilot> psycho_oreos: that was from terminal - and it worked yesterday (everyone says that, don't they?)
[06:47] <KakiPukul> My firefox has wmv plugin, i just want to show it
[06:47] <IdleOne> blanky:  you did pretty good in french also
[06:47] <blanky> je suelement le parle bon parce que je parle espanol aussi, comme(ent?) tu
[06:47] <thewayofzen> jjross,  i cant even download the .torrents they auto open to the gnome torrent.. i cant even save them to desktop as a .torrent.. and right click save as just gives me a .html file
[06:47] <psycho_oreos> KakiPukul: paste.ubuntu-nl.org can :)
[06:47] <biloyp> yes I aam running it in term
[06:47] <blanky> *seulement, lol thanks Idleone
[06:47] <psycho_oreos> brenner: hmm
[06:47] <IdleOne> blanky comme toi = like you
[06:47] <brenner> Madpilot: heh.  *you* have a problem for once
[06:47] <biloyp> do I have to do a chmod to it?
[06:47] <blanky> oo oui, :D
[06:47] <psycho_oreos> Madpilot: what about the command line applet on gnome, can you start it from there?
[06:48] <blanky> how do you say learning
[06:48] <Madpilot> brenner: happens to everyone :P
[06:48] <blanky> 'I'm learning'
[06:48] <KakiPukul> thanks... psycho_oreos
[06:48] <Madpilot> psycho_oreos: let me try, but I doubt it - commands are going to be the same
[06:48] <IdleOne> learning in french is a verb so to learn is apprendre
[06:48] <psycho_oreos> KakiPukul: np
[06:48] <jjross> thewayofzen: are your downloads  set to be saved to desktop?
[06:48] <psycho_oreos> Madpilot: I know, but just give it a try..
[06:49] <thewayofzen> jjross,  yes the downloads of ANYTHING else save to desktop.  but a torrent file doesnt even save as a torrent it just auto opens in gnome torrent on clicking
[06:49] <brenner> Madpilot: if it's beta.  my only guess is it's buggy.
[06:49] <kerneld> Does the gnome network-manager support interface aliases?
[06:49] <IdleOne> I'm learning is = J'apprend note the j' replaces je when followed by a vowel
[06:49] <kerneld> eg: eth0:1
[06:49] <Madpilot> brenner: yeah, but it really was running yesterday, with the same commands :P
[06:49] <thewayofzen> jjross,  its like click > gnome torrent    where before it was  Click >  azureus  BUT with an option for other application under neath and i had to ok
[06:49] <intelikey> Madpilot lock file ?
[06:49] <Madpilot> intelikey: shouldn't be
[06:50] <IdleOne> stick to topic ()
[06:50] <jjross> thewayoszen: i dont have any more to offer, but keep looking there has to be a way to change that
[06:50] <washo_pelao> wahahahaha!!
[06:50] <washo_pelao> ubuntlosers!!
[06:50] <washo_pelao> use the original, use debian
[06:50] <washo_pelao> B)
[06:50] <blanky> lol IdleOne I know that :P thanks
[06:50] <brenner> IdleOne: didn't Seveas trademark that? :)
[06:51] <Madpilot> darn, he left before I could kick him... :P
[06:51] <psycho_oreos> Madpilot: if it still doesn't work, I presume your Xorg server maybe running on some other window.. like :0.1 instead of :0.0
[06:51] <IdleOne> he trademarked  without the ( )
[06:51] <brenner> Madpilot: maybe he's in #debian. :)
[06:51] <Quinn> Quinn
[06:51] <IdleOne> I did with
[06:51] <blanky> LOL madpilot
[06:51] <thewayofzen> jjross,   i tried to do it in the download associations on firefox but there isnt a torrent extension set there.  it wouldnt be bad if there was a way to CREATE one but there isnt
[06:51] <Madpilot> psycho_oreos: I'll keep playing with it - it is the beta that I'm just testing, so if it's not running it's not a big deal
[06:51] <thewayofzen> i posted on the forums and the only reply was one i already tried before posting
[06:51] <psycho_oreos> Madpilot: ahh ok
[06:52] <biloyp> do I have to do a chmod ?
[06:53] <Madpilot> psycho_oreos: bleh - I started a new gnome-terminal window, ran the same commands, and it launched - that almost smells like a gnome-term bug I should explore a bit
[06:53] <jjross> thewayofzen: yea I agree, i havent done much with the torrents in dapper so i dont know what works and what does not
[06:53] <thewayofzen> jjross, thanks for trying mate. appreciate your time all the same :)
[06:54] <thewayofzen> ill wait patiently hoping someone else might know
[06:54] <psycho_oreos> Madpilot: heh odd, but glad you found it :)
[06:54] <intelikey> doesn't sound like it's found yet....
[06:54] <HammerBlade2020> http://home.comcast.net/~elitepete/xfce-bar.png
[06:54] <KakiPukul> the little (tsu)
[06:54] <jjross> thewayofzen: your welcome ,wish i could have offered more
[06:54] <KakiPukul> wtf, heh
[06:55] <IdleOne> HammerBlade2020:  that is a nice bar
[06:55] <HammerBlade2020> IdleOne, thanks
[06:56] <IdleOne> made me wanna order a drink from it lol
[06:56] <HammerBlade2020> haha
[06:56] <HammerBlade2020> i got most of these icons from deviantart
[06:56] <HammerBlade2020> it serves martini's :-P
[06:56] <IdleOne> the firefox one s nice
[06:56] <HammerBlade2020> yea it is.
[06:57] <HammerBlade2020> i really like the gmail-notify one
[06:57] <HammerBlade2020> the k3b is cool also since it's 3d
[06:57] <HammerBlade2020> eh what am i saying i love them all :-P
[06:58] <damian_> m drives are setup as follows my / filesystem is hdb1 its set as primay slave i have a second drive in secondsry slave what block device should it be? im having trouble mounting it
[06:58] <biloyp> anyone have any suggestions on why I am geting these errors when trying to install sun java?
[06:58] <elkbuntu> hmm, what disklabeltype should a hdd have for linux... this one i'm trying to partition is labelled as 'sun' but i cant make ext3 or swap partitions on it, but i can make unformatted partitions...
[06:59] <crimsun> damian_: the device is /dev/hdd
[06:59] <IdleOne> well Im off
[06:59] <KakiPukul> dude
[06:59] <IdleOne> good night/day all
[06:59] <damian_> thanks couldnt find it
[06:59] <crimsun> damian_: you can use fdisk -l /dev/hdd to find the partition #
[06:59] <damian_> thanks
[06:59] <KakiPukul> I really suggest that install it manually, extract, copy and link
[07:00] <intelikey> damian_  the nomanclature is  primary master=a slave=b secondary master=c slave=d    scsi & usb use  sd[A-z]
[07:00] <KakiPukul> or use the jdk/jre from ubuntu multiverse repos
[07:00] <brenner> biloyp: the deb file is in your home dir right?
[07:00] <damian_> oh of course i was thinking slave was hdab
[07:00] <intelikey> or scd?
[07:00] <biloyp> brenner: Yep
[07:00] <damian_> hda2 rather
[07:01] <intelikey> numbers are partitions numbers
[07:01] <damian_> a is the drive not the ide channel
[07:01] <brenner> you've got a terminal and you're in your home dir and doing an ls shows the filename?
[07:01] <damian_> and 2 is the partition
[07:01] <damian_> got it now
[07:01] <intelikey> damian_ i.e. mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/blah
[07:01] <biloyp> brenner: Yep
[07:01] <learner_learner> are the sources broken? when I'm doing apt-get update for many repositories it's showing 404 Not Found
[07:01] <brenner> biloyp: type: sudo dpkg -i
[07:02] <damian_> /dev/hdd1   *           1        1048     8418028+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[07:02] <damian_> :)
[07:02] <brenner> biloyp: but don't oress enter
[07:02] <brenner> s/oress/press
[07:02] <biloyp> ok
[07:02] <intelikey> damian_ if you want world writable on that  use  umask=0
[07:02] <brenner> biloyp: now press <space> s
[07:02] <biloyp>  ok
[07:02] <brenner> biloyp: so you should have 'sudo dpkg -i s' now
[07:02] <brenner> biloyp: now press tab
[07:03] <brenner> twice if needed to try and auto-complete the filename
[07:03] <intelikey> damian_ i.e. mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/blah -o umask=0 -t vfat
[07:03] <biloyp> it filled it in
[07:03] <brenner> biloyp: now press enter
[07:03] <biloyp> brenner: that was it. I must of haaaad an extra space after the name
[07:04] <brenner> biloyp: finally! :
[07:04] <KakiPukul> tab completion 101 :)
[07:04] <brenner> :D
[07:04] <biloyp> Thansk a bunch
[07:04] <intelikey> damian_ also of note.   unless you have a line in /etc/fstab describing the mount with "user"    only root can mount.   so  sudo that
[07:04] <brenner> he's spent like 2 hrs on 3 commands
[07:04] <brenner> poor guy
[07:04] <KakiPukul> extra space will not inherit any problem
[07:04] <damian_> yeah i am
[07:04] <biloyp> I don't give up
[07:04] <damian_> errors otherwise
[07:04] <damian_> thanks
[07:04] <intelikey> np
[07:05] <KakiPukul> we should teach TAB Completion 101 :)
[07:05] <biloyp> not sure what happen or why but that worked
[07:05] <damian_> got an old windows drive getting some programs running
[07:06] <brenner> KakiPukul: we google and search the forums/wiki for people... might as well add another thing to do :P
[07:07] <[HM] wolf202> how can i install the latest alsa drivers?
[07:07] <intelikey> damian_ you can have init mount it at boot time by adding it to /etc/fstab   or you can put it in fstab with the noauto switch   man fstab         also for future referance   fdisk -l   works wonders finding partitions   :)
[07:07] <Madpilot> !tab
[07:07] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, and for filename completion on the Linux command line.
[07:07] <Madpilot> KakiPukul: ^^^
[07:08] <[HM] wolf202> how can i install the latest alsa drivers?
[07:08] <HammerBlade2020> mount also works great for finding whats mounted :-D
[07:08] <brenner> !alsa
[07:08] <ubotu> well, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[07:08] <ja> in GNOME when I put a DVD in the drive it automagicly starts playing it in totem, how do I get KDE to do that?
[07:08] <damian_> [HM] wolf202 apt-cache find alsa
[07:08] <intelikey> HammerBlade2020 no better than cat /etc/mtab     ;p
[07:09] <HammerBlade2020> intelikey, :-D
[07:09] <Verithrax> ck
[07:09] <HammerBlade2020> i hate how skype's notification-area is always colored wrong
[07:09] <intelikey> find ?   or search ?
[07:09] <brenner> ja: question for #kubuntu or #kde i say
[07:09] <Verithrax> I'm considering switching to Ubuntu... Which Kernel does the last release use?
[07:10] <brenner> well do you want a stable release or the latest latest
[07:10] <ja> brenner: I asked in kubuntu and they just ignored me
[07:10] <Verithrax> I'm donwloading 5.10 right now.
 [HM] wolf202 apt-cache find alsa <---  s/find/search
[07:10] <MeeKs> anyone know how i can get my ubuntu to look like this?   http://www.ubuntux.org/mana-screen
[07:11] <brenner> Verithrax: 2.6.12  i think dapper ships with 16, but i'm not sure
[07:11] <brenner> Verithrax: (dapper will be released in april)
[07:11] <Verithrax> It's not a problem, I just need a 2.6 kernel to get my motherboard's agpgart to work.
[07:12] <brenner> Verithrax: then you should be se with 5.10
[07:12] <jb1_> brenner: I'm dist-upgrading right now to dapper. Latest kernel is 2.6.16-16
[07:12] <Verithrax> How good is Ubuntu's automatic X config?
[07:12] <brenner> jb1_: thanks
[07:12] <HammerBlade2020> Verithrax, depends
[07:12] <HammerBlade2020> Verithrax, for onboard it's perfect
[07:13] <Madpilot> Verithrax: for most people it works fine, some have trouble...
[07:13] <Verithrax> For a i368 with an offboard AGP Radeon?
[07:13] <Verithrax> Shouldn't be a problem, then, since DRI supports it.
[07:13] <HammerBlade2020> not hard at all.
[07:13] <HammerBlade2020> just need the ati driver
[07:13] <intelikey> it seems to get you some sort of a gui in "most" cases.  but hardly ever optimum
[07:14] <Verithrax> Yes, I like having DRM, if only for glmatrix.
[07:14] <brenner> intelikey: ipossible stupid question: why is that such a common problem?
[07:14] <intelikey> brenner yep....
[07:15] <HammerBlade2020> well it's off to sand land
[07:15] <HammerBlade2020> good night
[07:15] <intelikey> you
[07:15] <brenner> intelikey: ?
[07:15] <Verithrax> I wonder if I can get it to work with the DRI r200 driver.
[07:16] <Verithrax> Probably, since it works under Slackware that way, more or less. I can't use the ATI drivers.
[07:16] <intelikey> brenner yep.... your first word answered it as well as i can.   "ipossible"
[07:16] <Verithrax> My mb agp is supported only by 2.6, ATI supports only 2.4.
[07:17] <brenner> intelikey: er, that was a typo. sorry.
[07:17] <intelikey> hybird kernel Verithrax ?
[07:17] <eli> Hello everyone, has anyone ever had a their xorg.conf file state they they are using an ATI *and* fglrx driver at the same time?
[07:18] <intelikey> well i infered the M brenner :)
[07:18] <Verithrax> fglrx is the ATI driver.
[07:19] <Verithrax> A hybrid kernel? How do I compile that? And how unstable is it?
[07:19] <eli> i know, but i just wanted to make sure that this normal. i have had fglrx and ati drivers installed before but i never saw them both in the xorg.conf at the same time
[07:19] <brenner> intelikey: ah.  so basically it's friggin' hard to get everyone's card to work out of the box?
[07:19] <brenner> eli: as in two Driver lines?
[07:19] <damian_> intelikey <damian_> [HM] wolf202 apt-cache find alsa <---  s/find/search
[07:19] <intelikey> brenner prezactly.
[07:19] <damian_> ?
[07:20] <brenner> intelikey: ok. point taken. :)
[07:20] <Verithrax> fglrx is the proprietary ATI driver. ATI is the DRI wrapper ATI driver, which is actually the Radeon and R128 drivers.
[07:20] <intelikey> damian_ :)
[07:20] <brenner> damian_: replace find with search
[07:20] <eli> brenner : i have Section "Device" twice in the xorg.conf file and one states that an ATI driver is being used while the other states an flgrx driver is being used
[07:21] <eli> Verithrax : so is this normal then?
[07:21] <Verithrax> You can define more than one device in your xorg.conf.
[07:21] <damian_> whats the difference
[07:21] <Verithrax> Only one is getting used, though, unless you have more than one screen.
[07:21] <intelikey> `echo apt-cache find alsa | sed  s/find/search `       even   lol
[07:21] <eli> only one screen
[07:21] <brenner> damian_: one works, one doesn't :)
[07:22] <eli> so the first "Device" is being used then
[07:22] <Verithrax> Then go down to the screen config... It should tell you which is being used.
[07:22] <damian_> both work for me and od the exact same thing
[07:22] <Verithrax> You can switch between them, off course. Useful for testing/benchmarking. :)
[07:22] <crimsun> damian_: what's the issue?
[07:22] <brenner> damian_: you're lucky then:
[07:22] <brenner> justin@ubuntu:~$ apt-cache find gqview
[07:22] <brenner> E: Invalid operation find
[07:22] <pianoboy3333> how do I get rid of xfce?
[07:23] <intelikey> crimsun this       <damian_> intelikey <damian_> [HM] wolf202 apt-cache find alsa <---  s/find/search
[07:23] <crimsun> oh, (s)he's gone
[07:23] <esac_> pianoboy3333: sudo apt-get remove xfce ?
[07:23] <pianoboy3333> esac_: nope.... doesn't work....
[07:23] <eli> Verithrax : the ati driver is being used. you're right. thanks for the help
[07:23] <Verithrax> No worries.
[07:24] <esac_> pianoboy3333: sudo apt-get remove xfce4 ?
[07:24] <Verithrax> You can just change the Device line in the Screen section to use the other device, if you want to try the other driver.
[07:24] <eli> Verithrax : have you tried using compiz?
[07:24] <pianoboy3333> esac_: nope... says it's removed
[07:24] <Verithrax> What's that?
[07:25] <eli> i will stick with the ATI driver for now, it is a newer version
[07:25] <marcel__> is there a docklet application that can act as a menu, eg. Gnome menu
[07:25] <eli> http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/ <----- compiz
[07:25] <eli> and its in the repos for dapper
[07:26] <abhiubuntu> ssh:connect to host xxxxx  port 22:connection refused.Any help?
[07:26] <Madpilot> marcel__: you could try the Drawer applet for Gnome
[07:26] <crimsun> abhiubuntu: are you trying to connect to a Ubuntu machine?
[07:26] <marcel__> Madpilot, no, this is for openbox and docker
[07:27] <Verithrax> I'm already downloading Breezy.
[07:27] <pianoboy3333> AHH!
[07:27] <lampshade> what is the best way to mount a remote filesystem?  Linux to linux?  Normally in windows I would use something like sharing and workgroups, but I'm sure linux has something better, what shoudl I be looking for?
[07:27] <abhiubuntu> crimsun:yes
[07:27] <crimsun> abhiubuntu: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:27] <esac_> breezy ? man thats old
[07:27] <Madpilot> marcel__: ah, thought you were talking about Gnome
[07:27] <pianoboy3333> yea
[07:27] <pianoboy3333> breezy is sooo out
[07:27] <esac_> pianoboy3333: did you try using synaptic to remove it ?
[07:27] <Madpilot> lampshade: SSH/sftp is easy to set up - there are other ways, though
[07:27] <legind> hello.  I want pgp files to be opened automatically by nautilus with opening a new terminal issuing the command "pgp filename"... how do i do that
[07:28] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: what are you trying to do?
[07:28] <pianoboy3333> esac_ but there are so many packages and I don't know which ones i need to keep
[07:28] <intelikey> so old.....   yep almost 5 months old
[07:28] <Verithrax> I don't use unstable releases - Software blows up in my face often enough.
[07:28] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: remove xfce and all that came with it
[07:28] <eli> Verithrax : well then you won't want to try compiz yet
[07:29] <Verithrax> When it's released I'll update.
[07:29] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: sudo aptitude purge libxfce\* libexo\*
[07:29] <Verithrax> Ah, I heard about compiz.
[07:29] <eli> i have seen it in action
[07:29] <eli> amazing
[07:29] <Verithrax> I really don't care all that much for eye candy.
[07:29] <intelikey> Verithrax i know what you mean, i don't even use stable until they quit supporting it.....
[07:29] <pianoboy3333> crimsun.... kk
[07:29] <eli> i do, trying to find a way to convert my department away from windows to linux
[07:29] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: which may not be precise. What you probably want is: sudo aptitude purge $(dpkg -l libxfce\* libexo\* |grep ^ii |awk '{ print $2 }')
[07:30] <eli> this may get the unexperienced users to try it out
[07:30] <Verithrax> Seriously, window true transparency is very cute and all but try reading a transparent screen on top of another text-filled transparent screen.
[07:30] <Mantice> How to I make ubuntu detect the ATi drivers because ive spent all day trying to fix them
[07:30] <Mantice> My screen saver lags
[07:30] <elkbuntu> nod Verithrax
[07:30] <eli> its not the windows transparency, its the way you can sort you windows that i like
[07:30] <eli> very similar to osx
[07:30] <Verithrax> Sort them how?
[07:30] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: Isn't there something that doesn't ask me questions?
[07:31] <Mantice> my computer runs cooler in linux for some reason lol
[07:31] <eli> lets say you have 5 windows open
[07:31] <Mantice> and the fan lower rpm
[07:31] <intelikey> kewl one liner crimsun :)
[07:31] <lampshade> Madpilot, I need to mount it though, I'm looking at mounting ssh drives right now using sshfs or something like that, was just wondering if there was a better thing I've simply not heard of yet.  Basically music will be kept on one box and then mounted over to my laptop when I want to listen from my laptop somehwere
[07:31] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: it will always ask you to confirm a set of removals
[07:31] <JWMalaya> arrange windows...
[07:31] <eli> then you can press a short-cut key and the 5 windows will minimize to show all of them on the screen
[07:31] <JWMalaya> tile vertically horizontally
[07:31] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: but it still wants to keep mouse pad and stuff... can't I just remove everything that came with xubuntu-desktop?
[07:32] <eli> which i handy in my case for work
[07:32] <Verithrax> Mantice: You'll probably have to manually edit Xorg.conf. http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ Helps.
[07:32] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: if you used aptitude to install xubuntu-desktop, yes
[07:32] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: I used apt-get to install it
[07:32] <Mantice> Could you tell me what to edit if I send you the file?
[07:32] <Verithrax> Eli, you can do that on FVWM2.
[07:32] <Madpilot> lampshade: in Nautilus you can mount sftp stuff quite easily (or FTP or whatever)
[07:32] <Mantice> Im kinda a n00b
[07:32] <legind> heya, can someone help me with something? I want nautilus to open .pgp files with the pgp shell command... since there's no front end for it
[07:32] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: then you'll have to do some of the leg work
[07:32] <Verithrax> Or in fact any half-arsedly configurable WM.
[07:32] <Mantice> and ive had xserver crash alot today
[07:32] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: so what command?
[07:32] <eli> Verithrax : really? hmm im gonna check that out
[07:33] <Mantice> and ive fixed nothing
[07:33] <JWMalaya> everyone wa noob once :)
[07:33] <Verithrax> Mantice: Don't have time for that, and I'm not really a guru. Sorry.
[07:33] <eli> gnome, kde, and e17 dont do that
[07:33] <eli> i will see what i can do with that
[07:33] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: you can iterate through the dependency list of xfce4 and remove them
[07:33] <Verithrax> FVWM does *everything*
[07:33] <brenner> Mantice: how'd you install?
[07:33] <Mantice> Please dont tell me about the ATi wiki ive been to it and it dont work for me :(
[07:33] <eli> JWMalaya : i was born a unnoobed ;P
[07:33] <Mantice> I use both ways
[07:34] <Mantice> My X server crashes when I chose that plugin it tells me to
[07:34] <esac_> what channel do i go to to discuss bugs with dapper flight4 ?
[07:34] <Verithrax> But it doesn't play nice with desktop environments.
[07:34] <Mantice> and when I restart I have to reconfiger xserver
[07:34] <brenner> Mantice: is that you quinn?
[07:34] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: using? synaptic? just search for xfce4 and completely remove everything with the ubuntu logo that is installed?
[07:34] <Mantice> Yeah
[07:34] <Verithrax> And it takes some configuring to make it look different from CDE.
[07:34] <crimsun> esac_: this one. Be sure to file bugs using Malone, too.
[07:34] <JWMalaya> wtf :)
[07:34] <brenner> Mantice: ah
[07:34] <eli> well, then i will have to use compiz, i need gnome for two apps
[07:35] <Mantice> I think I have to put the ATi file in the root dir
[07:35] <Mantice> even though the wiki dont say so
[07:35] <Verithrax> You can run gnome apps without gnome. It's one of the good things about that make it marginally better than KDE in some situations.
[07:35] <esac_> crimsun: ok .. ill randomly have some keys on my keyboard stop working, most notably the home key .. if i go switch keyboards to 105, then back to 104 key, it works again for a while, then eventually stops again
[07:35] <brenner> Mantice: what about seveas' deb?
[07:35] <Mantice> because it made all the files in my home directory in sted of root
[07:35] <Mantice> sorry im n00b i cant understand servas' deb?
[07:36] <Mantice> I managed to install ubuntu yestoday
[07:36] <brenner> Mantice: a third method is described on the wiki: seveas' repos method
[07:36] <eli> hmm, ok you got my interests in fvwm2 now
[07:36] <eli> thanks for the tip
[07:36] <Verithrax> fvwm.org
[07:36] <brenner> Mantice: remove all the fglrx packages you may have installed and try that
[07:36] <Mantice> is that Synampic package manager
[07:36] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: how thorough a removal do you want?
[07:36] <Verithrax> Painfully configurable. It takes a while to configure it to be what you want it to be.
[07:37] <Verithrax> Better than any other WM if you're willing to take the time to configure it.
[07:37] <Mantice> Is there some ATi driver package I can install and Ubuntu will dectect?
[07:37] <Mantice> I installed fglrx through a termal thingy so I have no idea on how to remove
[07:38] <brenner> Mantice: sudo apt-get remove fglrx*
[07:38] <crimsun> esac_: have you filed a bug report using Malone for that issue?
[07:38] <brenner> Mantice: the wiki goes about uninstalling the driver
[07:38] <Mantice> ok
[07:38] <randabis> jeez the touchpad is sensitive haha
[07:38] <brenner> Mantice: you also need to remove xorg-driver-fglrx if you did the repos method
[07:38] <esac_> crimsun: malone ?
[07:39] <Mantice> I dont know what repos method is but sure
[07:39] <esac_> crimsun: similar to launchpad ?
[07:39] <Mantice> I guess its some command thingy i did
[07:39] <crimsun> esac_: (I mean launchpad)
[07:39] <crimsun> esac_: Malone is the bugtracker portion of Launchpad specifically
[07:39] <esac_> ah ok
[07:40] <randabis> jeez, is there a way to turn off the single click function of the synaptics touchpad? it is way too sensitive
[07:40] <Verithrax> Is there somewhere I can look at a list of software that ships with an Ubuntu version?
[07:40] <xiaoyu> i install the nv driver and then get a fatal error "no screens found"
[07:40] <crimsun> Verithrax: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:40] <Mantice> remove xorg-driver-fglrx dident do any thing cos it ant there
[07:40] <esac_> randabis: you should feel lucky your tap works, mine doesnt
[07:40] <biovore> xiaoyu: this on a laptop?
[07:40] <Mantice> Ok thats good
[07:40] <Mantice> All gone
[07:40] <brenner> randabis: you need to create a touchpad section in xorg.conf  read /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptics/README.gz for more info
[07:40] <xiaoyu> biovore: no
[07:41] <randabis> ok thanks brenner
[07:41] <biovore> xiaoyu: it ussualy happens because to monitor mode lines won't allow for any select resoultions
[07:41] <biovore> biovore: check you xorg.conf file for horizsync and vertical refresh values
[07:42] <xiaoyu> biovore: what shall i do
[07:42] <biovore> xiaoyu: you stuck on a console atm?
[07:42] <Mantice> brenner tell me when ur back
[07:42] <lampshade> !tell lampshade about mp3
[07:43] <xiaoyu> biovore: what does stuck mean
[07:43] <brenner> Mantice: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  press ctrl+f and find "Kaarsemaker"
[07:43] <brenner> Mantice: that's a third method of installing
[07:43] <xiaoyu> biovore: sorry my english is poor
[07:43] <biovore> xiaoyu: your at a text only terminal with xorg not starting?
[07:43] <Mantice> Yes , Sir
[07:44] <intelikey> biovore obviously a break down in communication......
[07:44] <xiaoyu> biovore: yes,i can not startx
[07:44] <brenner> Mantice: you can try that.
[07:44] <biovore> xiaoyu: you will need to edit /etc/xorg.conf
[07:44] <Mantice> Save the best to last :P
[07:44] <xiaoyu> biovore: to change what
[07:44] <Mantice> Btw im a 64 bit if that helps
[07:44] <brenner> Mantice: if *that* doesn't work.  make a forum topic.  it's all i can suggest besides coming back periodaically and trying to find some ati gurus in here
[07:44] <biovore> xiaoyu: in the file. there is a section that defines the horizontal sync and vertical refresh values for your monitor
[07:45] <spikebike> ati and linux isn't a good mix 8-(
[07:45] <brenner> Mantice: ah.  if you have a 64bit install ...i'm not sure that method would work then
[07:45] <brenner> it says it's for 32bit installs
[07:45] <biovore> xiaoyu: some monitors are trouble some
[07:45] <xiaoyu> biovore: i can not find that
[07:45] <Mantice> yeah :(
[07:45] <Mantice> Its all good it will work right :)
[07:45] <biovore> xiaoyu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf :-)
[07:45] <xiaoyu> biovore: the section
[07:45] <Mantice> I can try it
[07:45] <Mantice> Wiki might be old now :)
[07:45] <brenner> Mantice: is that a question?  if so, my answer is "i dunno".
[07:46] <intelikey> xiaoyu may i sujest you try running    "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "    read all the questions and answer them correctly.   then try   'startx '   to see if you have fixed it.
[07:46] <biovore> xiaoyu: section "Monitor"
[07:46] <xiaoyu> ok
[07:46] <biovore> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might work
[07:46] <brenner> Mantice: anyway, good luck! i'm off
[07:46] <JWMalaya> or worse, 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start' > xiaoyu
[07:46] <Mantice> Thats the command I use when my Xserver crashes
[07:47] <Mantice> Ok
[07:47] <xiaoyu> i have xorg.conf_backup
[07:47] <Mantice> See ya thanks for ur help
[07:47] <Mantice> If I send some one my xserver config could some one make it work for a radion 9600 xt pro?
[07:50] <danielch> hi, all
[07:50] <Mantice> hi
[07:50] <intelikey> danielch
[07:50] <Mantice> Looking for ATi Guru
[07:50] <danielch> How are doing today, intelikey?
[07:50] <intelikey> well,  and you ?
[07:51] <danielch> good, I am working on Ubuntu
[07:51] <Mantice> are you a project develpor or somthing
[07:51] <danielch> and have some problems
[07:52] <Mantice> brb dinner
[07:52] <danielch> no, I am a Linux-lover
[07:53] <danielch> "Add Applications" in GNOME doesn't work, why?
[07:53] <CaptainMorgan> linux loves you
[07:53] <danielch> yep
[07:54] <danielch> Who can find libforms-java?
[07:54] <Madpilot> danielch: "doesn't work"?
[07:54] <randabis> leave it to linux to make adjusting simple touchpad settings a chore
[07:55] <danielch> when gnome-app-install run, it hangups
[07:56] <intelikey> ]  Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libforms-java' returned no results.    danielch
[07:57] <ThePhur> what's up?
[07:57] <danielch> yes, but freemind require it.
[07:57] <intelikey> !jre
[07:57] <ubotu> intelikey: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:57] <intelikey> !JRE
[07:57] <ubotu> intelikey: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:57] <Madpilot> danielch: check the Freemind site - they've got some mention of Ubuntu installations there
[07:58] <redblade> Hi
[07:58] <danielch> I have installed jre1.4
[07:58] <JWMalaya> there is no libforms-java
[07:58] <redblade> I'm trying to mount a cd
[07:58] <JWMalaya> well at least in ubuntu ports
[07:58] <redblade> with this command
[07:59] <redblade> # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt -t iso9660
[07:59] <intelikey> redblade sudo that
[07:59] <redblade> it deosn't sem to be working
[07:59] <redblade> oh sorry it was sudo'd
[08:00] <xiaoyu> that does not work ether
[08:00] <intelikey> also if the symlink /dev/cdrom isn't there it won't work.
[08:00] <bjv> if i moved my hdb to my second IDE channel and set up my root partition in a RAID 0, i probably wouldnt notice any change in the way the system runs, would i?
[08:00] <redblade> symlink?
[08:00] <intelikey> yep.
[08:00] <intelikey> ls /dev/cd*
[08:01] <bjv> the only thing i though of was possibly: Apt-get installing has some room for improvement
[08:01] <AnaCapuano> canal #italia
[08:01] <xiaoyu> quit
[08:01] <danielch> How can I add Evince to the GNOME menu?
[08:02] <intelikey> redblade what id the device address for your cdrom ?
[08:02] <intelikey> any form you know is fine.
[08:02] <danielch> I find there is "evince.desktop" in /usr/share/applications
[08:02] <redblade> intelikey, sorry what do you mean?
[08:03] <intelikey> is it an ide  scsi  usb ???
[08:03] <randabis> god this is so annoying
[08:03] <lixfree> I'm looking for a good guide to configure a samba pdc....any suggestion?
[08:04] <JWMalaya> for Gui Lovers goto System -> Administration - > Disk
[08:04] <intelikey> redblade like  second ide master   maybe ?
[08:04] <JWMalaya> to check out all your connected devices
[08:04] <redblade> intelikey, I'm kinda new to linux
[08:05] <JWMalaya> btw it will prompt for password, just enter your password :)
[08:05] <redblade> where should I look?
[08:05] <esac_> how can i permanently change the permissions for /dev/hda4 (not the mount permissons, the actual device permissions) ?
[08:05] <intelikey> that question is not linux specific redblade
[08:05] <redblade> oh
[08:05] <JWMalaya> System -> Administration - > Disk, redblade
[08:05] <redblade> well I'm still not sure
[08:05] <redblade> okay
[08:06] <JWMalaya> esac_, the same as you do chmod :), it's a file anyways
[08:06] <esac_> JWMalaya: not so, when you reboot your system, all of the nodes under /dev get regenerated, and the permissions get reset
[08:06] <reod> hi all!
[08:06] <JWMalaya> well...
[08:06] <esac_> JWMalaya: ive already tried chmod a+rwx /dev/hda4  .. and it works, but then i reboot and bam, its gone
[08:06] <JWMalaya> sure... but at least you can set time when you're on?
[08:07] <reod> Does anybody know why everytime I start firefox it opens an unwanted web page?
[08:07] <redblade> intelikey, I think I may have found a way to sort out the problem but I'll be back if it doesn't work
[08:07] <JWMalaya> describe "unwanted"? maybe, it's your start page? reod ?
[08:08] <intelikey> redblade  do   sudo mount /dev/`dmesg | grep -ie'cd' | cut -d' ' -f1` /mnt
[08:08] <reod> no
[08:08] <power1> Hey all, I want to mount smb shares, does any1 know where ubuntu mounts a share when I click " connect to this server in gnome" ?
[08:08] <bjv> how can i check if my hard drives are ATA100 or ATA133?
[08:08] <intelikey> hehhe that should find it "auto"
[08:08] <bjv> is there a gnome-menu for this somewhere?
[08:08] <reod> i have a blank page...
[08:08] <power1> bjv "hdparm -Tt /dev/hda"
[08:08] <JWMalaya> http://www.xinehq.de/index.php/releases >> checkout mozilla/firefox plugin (if you want to play WMV)
[08:08] <intelikey>  sudo mount /dev/`dmesg | grep 'CD' | cut -d' ' -f1` /mnt
[08:09] <randabis> i'm about to delete this friggin' ubuntu partition right now this touchpad is making me go insane
[08:09] <JWMalaya> then?
[08:09] <bjv> power1: 260.48 MB/sec   'timing cached reads'
[08:09] <bjv> power1: thanks, i was wading through hdparm -I    .. but what do these outputs mean?
[08:09] <reod> JWMalaya, i always have it configured (and still) to start with a blank page
[08:09] <intelikey> bjv lshw
[08:09] <Madpilot> randabis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowto
[08:10] <slew> my video files had a frame from the video as the icon in nautilus. i did a fresh, clean install and now the icon is just the default. how do i get that back?
[08:10] <Madpilot> randabis: not sure if it'll help, but have a look
[08:10] <cafuego> !info kplato dapper
[08:11] <randabis> Madpilot: if it can help me adjust the settings of the dang thing then maybe, but I think it's a bit ridiculous there is no graphical tool to adjust the settings
[08:11] <randabis> the tap function is waaaaaaaaay too sensitive
[08:11] <randabis> i'd rather it be off entirely
[08:12] <cafuego> hit it with a hammer
[08:12] <slew> drop it from somewhere high.
[08:12] <randabis> believe me, I would if I had a real mouse
[08:12] <reod> JWMalaya, btw... i'm using Ubuntu 5.10...
[08:12] <JWMalaya> what did you mean by "unwanted page"?
[08:13] <JWMalaya> and what's the problem anyways?
[08:13] <wortex> HELLO ALL
[08:13] <reod> starts with a web page i didn't ever enter
[08:13] <reod> and of course i don't want to....
[08:14] <JWMalaya> ok... try to clear the cache... maybe there are some bad cookies....
[08:14] <Mantice> Can some one help me
[08:14] <Mantice> Im install some ATi drivers
[08:14] <reod> done.... and still the same
[08:14] <JWMalaya> restart the browser perhaps?
[08:14] <Mantice> and Im picking the linux i wana set it up for (ubuntu)
[08:14] <reod> i even deleted the profile...
[08:14] <Mantice> and the list is to big :(
[08:14] <Mantice> I cant pick it
[08:14] <randabis> all I want is the dang thing to stop assuming I'm trying to click/click and drag every time I remove my finger
[08:14] <JWMalaya> what page, what's the url?
[08:14] <Mantice> I cant scroll down
[08:14] <reod> every time a shutdown and restart... the same
[08:14] <JWMalaya> was it? ubuntu's page?
[08:14] <reod> www.udg.mx
[08:15] <reod> dunno how can i get this...
[08:15] <wortex> I HAVE A PROBLEM!!!  How can I fix this ?
[08:19] <Mrono> when I try to boot It fails on mounting my local file system and doesn't like my network card
[08:19] <Mrono> it's in the network manager
[08:19] <Mrono> but when I click enable it disables a second later
[08:19] <wortex> slew, i run opengl games ! with nvidia !! after rebooting xserver didn't find screens !! and i installed legacy! driver
[08:19] <Mrono> wow!!!!!
[08:19] <Mrono> lol
[08:20] <drgREBORN> hello all
[08:20] <drgREBORN> really sorry but I have a small problem with my secondary hdd.
[08:20] <drgREBORN> I cant set the write permission to it
[08:20] <Mrono> and no help here either
[08:20] <nathanj> how do i reconfigure xorg because i set a high res (small mon atm) and now i got not gui?
[08:20] <intelikey> fs type drgREBORN
[08:20] <intelikey> ?
[08:20] <bjv> power1:  what where the buffered disk reads? 14.94 MB/sec
[08:21] <Mrono> is it ntfs?
[08:21] <drgREBORN> fat32
[08:21] <drgREBORN> the line in my fstab is this
[08:21] <drgREBORN> /dev/hdb        /media/Data     vfat    defaults        0       0
[08:21] <intelikey> nathanj sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:21] <Mantice> I need help
[08:21] <Boglizk> im able to write to my fat32 part..
[08:21] <JWMalaya> Java_the_Hutt, when you're on KDe, kde applies its own style, not the GNOME style
[08:21] <cafuego> !vfat
[08:21] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:21] <intelikey> drgREBORN /dev/hdb        /media/Data     vfat    defaults,umask=0        0       0
[08:21] <asdffasf> There is a right click option on desktop send to. How to make mozzilla thunder bird default email handler?
[08:21] <drgREBORN> well i hav eto keep doing sudo cp or mv to move/write files to it so its weird
[08:22] <danielch> drgREBORN, your "mount" message?
[08:22] <bjv> power1: from lshw my math says 33*32/8 = 132 MB/s   so probably ATA133
[08:22] <holobyted> so.. anyone know what applet/application (GNOME-wise) manages the default volume-up/down keys?
[08:22] <cafuego> intelikey: yuck
[08:22] <drgREBORN> my fstab setting for it
[08:22] <slew> wortex, did you do sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:22] <Mantice> whats the disro after hory?
[08:22] <JWMalaya> that's ATA133 alright
[08:22] <biovore> brezzy
[08:22] <wortex> slew, sure when i reboot xserver
[08:22] <intelikey> cafuego you don't like umask 0 ?
[08:22] <Mantice> Well I cant see the GUI box because screens to small :(
[08:22] <wortex> slew, on my monitor apears ! NVIDIA BITMAP
[08:22] <nathanj> how do i restart x?
[08:22] <Mantice> So Im guessing
[08:22] <asdffasf> How to make link on desktop to Home directory?
[08:22] <cafuego> ATA133 maxes out at around 65MB/sec for *fast* drives
[08:23] <nathanj> nevermnind
[08:23] <nathanj> got it
[08:23] <ex-parrot> I'm running Ubuntu server and my network interfaces keep going down by themselves and aren't up at boot time... any ideas anyone?
[08:23] <JWMalaya> nathanj, in ubuntu usually 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[08:23] <slew> wortex, so its working for you now?
[08:23] <bjv> well, i got cached reads: = 260.48 MB/sec
[08:23] <Java_the_Hutt> JWMalaya: yes i know that but after installing ubuntu-desktop, firefox is not affected from my KDE settings. and this was not the case previously. GNOME applications was affected from my KDE settings
[08:23] <cafuego> bjv: Yes, cache != disk
[08:23] <bjv> and buffered disk reads: =  14.94 MB/sec
[08:23] <asdffasf> How to make link on desktop to Home directory?
[08:23] <Mantice> OMG
[08:24] <Mantice> ATi Are retards
[08:24] <intelikey> asdffasf ln -s ..  :O
[08:24] <cafuego> bjv: The cache read speeds mainly reflect on ram speed
[08:24] <bjv> ouch
[08:25] <sunubuntu> connect to host xxxxx port 22:connection refused.Any help?
[08:25] <intelikey> Mantice use the [alt]  key and left click move your window
[08:25] <cafuego> bjv: If you have an ATA133 disk on an ATA133 controller with DMA enabled, yes. 55MB/sec min, up to 65MB/sec
[08:25] <sunubuntu> ssh server is installed
[08:25] <nathanj> what package do i need to install to have wireless cards working?
[08:25] <bjv> well, i just ran 2 more and got 30.53 MB/sec and 29
[08:25] <bjv> still not hot though..
[08:26] <asdffasf> ?
[08:26] <Mantice> I found it out my self
[08:26] <Mantice> ALL HAIL THE MOVE BUTTON
[08:26] <bjv> is that all configured in BIOS? there arent any settings in ubuntu i could have wrong, are there?
[08:26] <cafuego> bjv: Is the machine busy?
[08:26] <Mantice> shit im a noob
[08:26] <bjv> cafuego: not very.
[08:26] <sunubuntu> connect to host xxxxx port 22:connection refused.Any help?
[08:26] <cafuego> bjv: I get 55.73 (whilst doing other I/O)
[08:26] <ex-parrot> sunubuntu: it's not running SSH ?
[08:27] <ex-parrot> anyone know why my network interfaces are being so fickle?
[08:27] <sunubuntu> ex-parrot:sshd is running
[08:27] <nathanj> intelikey: ta
[08:28] <sunubuntu> ex-parrot:do i have to run it on the other sys also
[08:28] <ex-parrot> no, sunubuntu
[08:28] <Wolfwood> I know my network was being fickle with Fedora Core.
[08:28] <cafuego> bjv: Just check that DMA is enabled.
[08:28] <Quinn> Can I have a quick rundown of what short cut keys are
[08:28] <Quinn> whats ctrl alt back space do
[08:28] <ex-parrot> Kills X, Quinn
[08:28] <Wolfwood> Adopted from the Microsoft world. yay.
[08:28] <Quinn> X = GUI right
[08:28] <cafuego> bjv: Also, are you 100% certain you've got an ATA133 controller and drive?
[08:28] <ex-parrot> correct.
[08:29] <Quinn> How do I start X from termanl
[08:29] <sunubuntu> ex-parrot:any sol'n?
[08:29] <bjv> cafuego: the controller may be ATA100
[08:29] <intelikey> ctrl alt  f-keys  switch to other tty's