[08:26] <jt1997> Aah, I see.
[08:27] <jt1997> I would still like to set it up :)
[08:27] <Jordan_U> rsv: Did you understand my last comment?
[08:27] <rigo> nevermind. i have a fresh 12.04 installed with quantal kernel so i wait 'till i mess it up. :D
[08:27] <MestreLion> jt1997: i guess the set up is quite straightforward... just go to system settings and enable it
[08:28] <jt1997> Don't I have to do the configuration online?
[08:28] <jt1997> at https://uccs.landscape.canonical.com/edit/
[08:28] <rsv> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ca/2247853
[08:29] <MestreLion> jt1997: i've never seen this site. maybe this is a 12.10 thing?
[08:29] <TheLordOfTime> jtthat's only needed if you're using landscape for managing things
[08:29] <TheLordOfTime> jt1997, &
[08:29] <jt1997> So I can't access my data from it while on another computer?
[08:29] <TheLordOfTime> jt1997, you don't read then.
[08:30] <Jordan_U> rsv: Do you know why you have one ext3 partition and one ext4 partition? Do you have more than one GNU/Linux distribution installed?
[08:30] <TheLordOfTime> jt1997, you have to configure things in your system settings to allow remote
[08:30] <F-3000> Hello! I ran this nice problem that PC's (usb) wlan stopped finding modem once I switched video-card on it. Might anyone have any idea what's causing it, or know how to start troubleshooting what's wrong?
[08:30] <TheLordOfTime> jt1997, you don't have to configure landscape
[08:30] <MestreLion> jt1997:  go applications  >  desktop sharing > "allow others to view" > done :)
[08:30] <TheLordOfTime> and he just up and leaves.
[08:30] <rigo> let me know what is your suggestion to my case:
[08:30] <TheLordOfTime> *shrugs*
[08:31] <rsv> Jordan_U:  that is my boot partition
[08:31] <TheLordOfTime> rsv, ext4 works just as well ;P
[08:31] <TheLordOfTime> rsv, is your /boot leftover from something? ;P  (just saying)
[08:31] <rsv> yes
[08:31] <rigo> on the company network in my workplace i found only a few open ports. (3389 isnt open, mstsc.exe cant open my home desktop)
[08:31] <rigo> i have here xrdp installed i can log in with ssh tunnel rdp. but its damn slow
[08:32] <rigo> is there a faster way to reach my home desktop?
[08:32] <rigo> i need a desktop cause LOT of things are disabled by the proxy.
[08:32] <F-3000> Some networks are found, but not the one that's supposed to, and even some wlans that have high quality, are not shown on.
[08:32] <rsv> TheLordOfTime: my previous installation
[08:32] <rigo> lot i mean fb, the large mailing systems like yahoo, and everything what wit "webmail" begins... so pretty lol.
[08:33] <rsv> Jordan_U:  doesnt photorec replicate my entire /home user accounts
[08:33] <Jordan_U> rsv: No, it doesn't.
[08:33] <TheLordOfTime> rigo, sounds like you're wanting to bypass the proxy at your location to circumvent policies.
[08:33] <rigo> yes. it doesnt sounds like. it IS the thing :)
[08:34] <rigo> i wont break any laws with this as far as i know... :)
[08:34] <Jordan_U> rsv: You're not going to get all your data back, and you're certainly not going to get all your settings and configuration back neatly either. This is why you really need backups in the future. Boot from a LiveCD/USB and follow the guide I linked to to get back as much as you can.
[08:34] <aali83> Phase, i fixed the problem sudo apt-get -y install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:35] <rigo> the work i do is just boring. i have to work about 10x15seconds a hour you know.
[08:35] <itsme20121991> QUICK QUIZ, What happens when you type { $sudo exit } in terminal . (Don't check it on terminal now, just guess or reply the correct answer)
[08:35] <MestreLion> rigo: I suggest 2 approaches: install a VNC client at work, so you can use that protocol instead of rdp
[08:36] <rsv> Jordan_U: i mean the filenames
[08:36] <OerHeks> itsme20121991, wrong channel for your quiz, take it to #offtopic
[08:36] <rsv> Jordan_U:  the filenames appear as <some number>. <something>
[08:36] <rigo> yes the important thing is that i found out the local admin password for my computer there :))
[08:36] <F-3000> Could someone help? I ran to this nice problem that desktop's (usb) wlan stopped finding modem once I switched video-card on it. Might anyone have any idea what's causing it, or know how to start troubleshooting what's wrong? Some wlans are listed, but the one that's supposed to be found is not.
[08:36] <rigo> which port uses vnc?
[08:37] <rigo> cause i found only the port 81 open outher the "common" ports. nothing else..
[08:37] <rsv> let me reboot
[08:37] <mah454> Hello
[08:37] <MestreLion> rigo: by default? not sure, but you can ser a vnc server at home in any port
[08:37] <mah454> I need a book about Python And QT Programing . What is your idea ?
[08:37] <rigo> gr8
[08:38] <rigo> i just downloaded tightvnc for testing
[08:38] <MestreLion> rigo: you can even install it at port 80 if you want to
[08:38] <MestreLion> but your home ISP may block it
[08:39] <rigo> i dont think they will
[08:39] <MestreLion> your work will block most of the upper port, and your isp may block most of the lower ones... so you need to hunt for a port
[08:39] <MestreLion> rigo: most cable companies block incoming connections in ports like 80, 23, etc
[08:40] <rigo> hm
[08:40] <rigo> let's see what happens monday :)
[08:40] <MestreLion> precisely to prevent home users to install web servers at home
[08:40] <OpenSorce> Did something else replace StartUp-Manager?
[08:41] <kernelhacker> MestreLion, i am shocked overseas isp's still do that.
[08:41] <kernelhacker> i live australia. our isp's don't block that sort of stuff.
[08:41] <rigo> and what about ports 21-22-23?
[08:41] <MestreLion> rigo: that's ssh ? i think its open
[08:42] <MestreLion> you can check using shields up website
[08:42] <kernelhacker> 21=ftp 22=telnet 23=ssh
[08:42] <rigo> i know kernelhacker :)
[08:42] <kernelhacker> close them if you don't need them open.
[08:42] <rigo> i think either, cause i use it since august for accessing my home pc
[08:42] <MestreLion> 21 usually closed, telnet and ssh are open here, but i'd never install server there anyway
[08:42] <rigo> and remote desktop through ssh tunnel which is REALLY slow.
[08:43] <rsv> Jordan_U:  WHy doesnt photorec recover the filenames
[08:43] <rsv> Is there any tool which does that
[08:43] <bekks> rsv: Because the filenames were deleted.
[08:43] <bekks> rsv: No.
[08:43] <MestreLion> kernelhacker: well, the rationale is: home internet service is not for servers, because of the increased upload bandwidth. for that, you must pay for an enterprise service, which has fixed ip, etc etc
[08:44] <rsv> OKAY
[08:44] <kernelhacker> australians are lucky i guess.
[08:44] <ari__> n00b doubt. i got natty narwhal on a sort-of-a-server that i use to torrent and file server. the natty is no longer supported. is it vulnerable?
[08:44] <kernelhacker> i didn't realize we were that lucky.
[08:44] <bekks> rsv: To be correct: the inode content storing the filename in the directory content was overwritten.
[08:45] <kernelhacker> we just pay for whatever bandwidth for the month. they don't care what you use it for.
[08:45] <rsv> any ubuntu tool reads the directory blocks and recovers the files along with filenames
[08:45] <MestreLion> kernelhacker: are you sure? try shields p and see if they are really open... https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
[08:46] <bekks> rsv: No. The content storing the filename was overwritten. It does not exist anymore.
[08:46] <rsv> bekks: okay
[08:46] <kernelhacker> incorrect. if it was overwritten it would not be recovered.
[08:46] <MestreLion> kernelhacker: you pay for bandwidth, but the naked truth is: if all users use all the bandwidth they can, most (or all) ISPs will collapse...
[08:46] <rigo> i cant connect to my htpc via vnc tightvnc
[08:47] <bekks> kernelhacker: Perfectly correct. The inode storing the NAME was overwritten.
[08:47] <bekks> kernelhacker: Thats what happens when deleting a file on ext[2|3|4] filesystem.
[08:47] <kernelhacker> :-)
[08:47] <MestreLion> kernelhacker: they offer 5, 10, 50mbps... but they don't except users to actually use that much... actually, they count on it
[08:48] <MestreLion> expect*
[08:48] <kernelhacker> are you talking about speed of connection or total bandwidth usage?
[08:49] <bekks> mbps indicates bandwidth.
[08:49] <MestreLion> kernelhacker: both. at least in Brazil, there is an upload/download month quota
[08:49] <MestreLion> if you pass that, they will limit speed
[08:49] <kernelhacker> everyone i know goes over quota every month. i do.
[08:49] <MestreLion> to something slow like 1mbps
[08:50] <MestreLion> do they charge you after quota? or do they limit speed?
[08:50] <kernelhacker> that's right. we get shaped too. but you can still use as much bandwidth quota as you want, regardless of the speed you get shaped to.
[08:50] <MestreLion> ok, same here
[08:50] <kernelhacker> some shape only. some shape and charge. some charge only.
[08:51] <kernelhacker> pay for what you get really.
[08:51] <kernelhacker> expensive here in AU though.
[08:51] <MestreLion> and your upload limit, both speed and kb, is usually MUCH smaller than download, correct?
[08:51] <OerHeks> some should pay extra, for chit-chat in a ubuntu support irc channel.
[08:51] <MestreLion> like 10x
[08:51] <kernelhacker> that's correct.
[08:52] <MestreLion> OerHeks: If anyone asks for support I'll gladly stop chat and help
[08:52] <kernelhacker> same here.
[08:52] <OerHeks> well, it is channel policy.
[08:53] <MestreLion> rigo: don't have to wait till monday... use a service like https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2  and see which ports are blocked by your ISP
[08:53] <trallallero> kkk
[08:54] <MestreLion> rigo: even if there are any, i'ts usually just a few...
[08:54] <bekks> rigo: Then check wether vnc is running, by using sudo lsof -i
[08:55] <kernelhacker> what port does vnc use?
[08:55] <MestreLion> kernelhacker: the default port is irrelevant, since his company's proxy will probably block it
[08:55] <kernelhacker> yeah was just curious.
[08:56] <kernelhacker> i never use vnc and was wondering.
[08:56] <MestreLion> google :P
[08:56] <bekks> MestreLion: We dont even know wether he uses a proxy or not.
[08:56] <milen8204> I can not read a cyrillic text they looks like that øàÿ âåðñèÿ äëÿ ë
[08:56] <MestreLion> bekks: he said so. his company has a very restrictive firewall
[08:56] <kernelhacker> MestreLion, that requires opening a browser. :-p
[08:56] <milen8204> anyone could help ?
[08:56] <mifritscher> hi
[08:57] <kernelhacker> hi mifritscher
[08:57] <MestreLion> milen8204: read them where? no all applications have unicode support
[08:57] <Aleksander> Hello. I've installed Ubuntu 12.10 and upgraded the system, and now for some strange reason after I login with LightDM there's no panel in Unity
[08:57] <Aleksander> just the desktop
[08:58] <lowlifer_> kernelhacker: i think it's 5900 and 5800
[08:58] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, alt+f2 and type r, press enter.
[08:58] <MestreLion> Aleksander: before you login, have you checked the default login session is Ubuntu and not something else?
[08:58] <kernelhacker> lowlifer_, thanks. odd ports.
[08:58] <mifritscher> how can i disable the automatic shutdown if "overhotting"? Ive the problem that the sensor goes straight from 50 to 127C sometimes, while the other sensors stay ok (its a thinkpad which have many sensors) - so I think that the sensor is defect
[08:59] <milen8204> MestreLion, sorry I forgot to say in libreoffice and text editor
[08:59] <Aleksander> MestreLion, yes
[08:59] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, F2 doesn't work
[08:59] <Aleksander> damn, 12.10 is the most broken distro I've ever seen.
[08:59] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, no f2?
[08:59] <kernelhacker> odd
[09:00] <MestreLion> Aleksander: don't say so before you try mint cinnamon with an ati 7xxx card :P
[09:00] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, I know. I have reinstalled ubuntu, because previous one went mad after installing nvidia drivers on an nvidia optimus card
[09:00] <Aleksander> I couldn't undo that
[09:00] <Aleksander> even after manually switching to intel, Unity and gnome-shell didn't even start.
[09:01] <kernelhacker> should start at least.
[09:01] <Aleksander> doesn't.
[09:01] <Aleksander> I'm going to run "Linux for physicists" course on my university and I was told to teach them Ubuntu
[09:02] <MestreLion> milen8204: not sure about libreoffice, but in text editor (gedit) you can change the character encoding when you open a file... have you tried it?
[09:02] <Aleksander> and I'm getting more and more irritated at this distro
[09:02] <TheLordOfTime> Aleksander, debian'd also have the same issues.  Did you consider installing Ubuntu in a VM so as not to run into a lot of the issues you may see when installing direct to your hardware?
[09:02] <kernelhacker> see, i run command line only. don't even have gui. so i have no such issues.
[09:02] <MestreLion> Aleksander: does it work fine with 12.04 ?
[09:02] <milen8204> MestreLion, i thick the encoding is the problem but how to change it?
[09:03] <OerHeks> Aleksander, i think you need #bumblebee for your optimus >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[09:03] <Aleksander> MestreLion, I will be checking in a moment
[09:03] <Aleksander> OerHeks, I know, thank you
[09:03] <MestreLion> milen8204: not sure about libreoffice, but in text editor (gedit) you can change the character encoding when you open a file... theres a "Character Encoding" button in the Open dialog, have you tried it?
[09:04] <MestreLion> kernelhacker: you don't a gui for googling about vnc ports :P
[09:04] <kernelhacker> i don't reckon it's a driver issue, because unity just wouldn't start. i don't even think you'd get to desktop.
[09:04] <milen8204> MestreLion, thanks will try
[09:04] <kernelhacker> MestreLion, not on ubuntu system no. other systems, yes.
[09:04] <lowlifer_> kernelhacker, how do u use it without gui?
[09:05] <kernelhacker> primary desktop is debian. ubuntu is run in vm.
[09:05] <kernelhacker> debian is MATE.
[09:05] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, is MATE really different from XFCE? I know it's basically GNOME2, but they're almost identical for me
[09:05] <MestreLion> is mate easy to install in debian and/or ubuntu? i've never tried it outside mint
[09:06] <kernelhacker> well, yes using mint debian.
[09:06] <kernelhacker> pre-installed.
[09:06] <kernelhacker> correct, MATE looks (and is) GNOME2
[09:07] <MestreLion> Aleksander: that depends on how identical you consider xfce and gnome2 are
[09:07] <kernelhacker> nothing like xfce.
[09:07] <milen8204> MestreLion, it works i didnt have any cyrillic encoding :D
[09:07] <milen8204> thanks a lot
[09:07] <MestreLion> you're welcome :)
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> MestreLion: there is a PPA, Mate is not supported here though
[09:08] <MestreLion> milen8204: but, really... you should use unicode documents instead of depending on codepages
[09:09] <milen8204> i had downloaded the document :D
[09:09] <MestreLion> oh
[09:09] <MestreLion> wow, is anyone out there still publishing non-UTF-8 docs?
[09:09] <bekks> Sure.
[09:10] <Aleksander> how can I dpkg-reconfigure unity?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: what do you want to achieve?
[09:11] <MestreLion> Aleksander:  that would be sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity, but i doubt it will fix your issue
[09:11] <Aleksander> ActionParsnip, I see that no matter what account I log in to, there're no panels in unity
[09:11] <Aleksander> so it's not based on individual .configs
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: which release are you using?
[09:11] <MestreLion> Aleksander: before you login, have you checked the default login session is Ubuntu and not something else?
[09:11] <Aleksander> ActionParsnip, 12.10
[09:11] <Aleksander> MestreLion, YES.
[09:11] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, is this a fresh install or upgrade?
[09:12] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, fresh install
[09:12] <Aleksander> done yesterday and fully upgraded
[09:12] <kernelhacker> what graphics you using?
[09:13] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, Nvidia 540GT, but it worked yesterday, before the upgrade
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: have you installed the nvidia driver?
[09:13] <kernelhacker> ^^
[09:13] <Aleksander> ActionParsnip, no.
[09:13] <kernelhacker> install it.
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:14] <throwed54> Bed real soon
[09:14] <Aleksander> ActionParsnip, I did this on my previous installation
[09:14] <Aleksander> and it broke the system so bad I couldn't repair
[09:14] <kernelhacker> what result?
[09:14] <meowmeow> hello
[09:14] <kernelhacker> hello meowmeow
[09:14] <blackshirt> hello meowmeow
[09:14] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, I couldn't start glx
[09:15] <Aleksander> even on intel
[09:15] <meowmeow> my resolution is stuck at 640x and I am scared to change my xorg.conf manually
[09:15] <meowmeow> how2 screen resolution GUI
[09:15] <meowmeow> ?
[09:15] <kernelhacker> type "fglrx info" in terminal.
[09:15] <ArchOpenBox> xrandr
[09:15] <meowmeow> in display the only res in the dropdown is 640
[09:15] <_Desu_> xrandr
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: what video chip are you using?
[09:15] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: something from the dark ages
[09:15] <meowmeow> my friend
[09:15] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, do you get 3D render=yes?
[09:16] <meowmeow> i used to have a 256mb ATI 9800 XT pro (also frm the dark ages)
[09:16] <meowmeow> but the fan stopped working
[09:16] <meowmeow> on that
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: I have older
[09:16] <meowmeow> thanks for the quick reply dudes/dudettes
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: if you run:  lspci | grep -i vga      what is output?
[09:16] <kernelhacker> i use old radeon x1050.
[09:16] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, I don't have fglrx, isn't it ATI?
[09:16] <kernelhacker> runs perfect!
[09:17] <_Desu_> aye it is ATI
[09:17] <meowmeow> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3)
[09:17] <meowmeow> so
[09:17] <kernelhacker> really, i thought it was all systems. bugger me.
[09:17] <meowmeow> how do I add a maximum
[09:17] <_Desu_> just use xrandr to change resolution
[09:17] <meowmeow> of 1024x768
[09:17] <meowmeow> for instance
[09:17] <FloodBot1> meowmeow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:17] <_Desu_> xrandr -s <size>
[09:17] <Aleksander> and afaik you need X server running to get glxinfo
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: will you please quit hitting ENTER after every other word
[09:17] <meowmeow> SORRY
[09:17] <_Desu_> xrandr -s 1024x768
[09:17] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, you don't have X server?
[09:17] <MestreLion> meowmeow: the once-venerable mx 440 is far from being dark age at all :)
[09:18] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, I have broken X server
[09:18] <Aleksander> I have only Unity installed and it pretty much doesn't work
[09:18] <meowmeow> MestreLion: yes it does serve me well even now
[09:18] <kernelhacker> broken, how?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: and what is the output of: lsb_release -sc      please
[09:18] <Aleksander> I can't even start the terminal in Xes
[09:18] <Aleksander> there are no panels and F2 doest work
[09:18] <meowmeow> oneiric
[09:18] <ArchOpenBox> tty
[09:19] <kernelhacker> switch to terminal system. ctrl+alt+f3 and then install the nvidia drivers and then reboot.
[09:19] <_Desu_> use a tty?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: still supported with 6 months support left.
[09:19] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, I told you that it breaks my system even more.
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: did you say you have an xorg.conf file in place?
[09:19] <meowmeow> lol i believe so
[09:19] <meowmeow> I'm not really sure where unity started TBH
[09:19] <MestreLion> Aleksander: more than not having panel and launcher?
[09:19] <meowmeow> xrandr -s 1024x768
[09:19] <meowmeow> Size 1024x768 not found in available modes
[09:19] <meowmeow> i'm just trying to get my 1024 back :S
[09:20] <kernelhacker> MestreLion, it seems so...
[09:20] <MestreLion> meowmeow: you must first create a modeline
[09:20] <meowmeow> MestreLion: that's what I thought
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: if you run:  file /etc/X11/xorg.conf     does it say that the file doesn't exist?
[09:20] <Aleksander> MestreLion, I told you a moment before: it switches the resolution to 800x600 and prevents intel from loading
[09:20] <Aleksander> even after I X-configure and delete nvidia drivers
[09:20] <kernelhacker> what do you mean prevents intel from loading?
[09:20] <kernelhacker> you said you are using nvidia?
[09:20] <food> OerHeks, pass 1, no errors
[09:21] <bekks> Aleksander: The framebuffer resolution is irrelevant for the graphics module to be loaded.
[09:21] <kernelhacker> can't use both.
[09:21] <meowmeow> do I add modeline in the Screen section?
[09:22] <bekks> Aleksander: Do you have a Nvidia Optimus chipset?
[09:22] <bekks> Aleksander: If so, you have to decide which chipset you want to use.
[09:22] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:22] <meowmeow> /etc/X11/xorg.conf: ASCII text
[09:22] <Aleksander> bekks, I know and I can't because there's no such option in my bios
[09:22] <meowmeow> what is the syntax for adding a 1024x768 modeline and where do I put it?
[09:23] <bekks> Aleksander: The BIOS doesnt matter at that point.
[09:23] <bekks> Aleksander: In your case, you have to decide using bumblebee
[09:23] <Aleksander> bekks, so I need Bumblebee, I know.
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: ok if you run: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf      and visit http://pastie.org you can pastebin the text and we can see the file. When the page changes, copy the address bar and paste it in here please
[09:23] <bekks> Aleksander: Then why dont you use it?
[09:23] <Aleksander> where is damned xorg.conf in the 12.10?! I can't check what driver I'm using right now
[09:23] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: great
[09:23] <davidmz> I am not an linux expert, I want to have rsyslog report to a bash script I consolted the website of rsyslog and here is my /etc/rsyslog.conf and the bash script http://pastebin.com/69D8kfVw , I can't get this to work, the test.out file is not getting written, I feel like this is a permissions issue or something that I have missed been new to linux, how to make it work?
[09:23] <jpds> Aleksander: Create it.
[09:23] <bekks> Aleksander: There is NO default xorg.conf since ages. If you need it, create it.
[09:23] <Aleksander> bekks, because I want to start the system FIRST, and Unity worked
[09:23] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/5175840
[09:24] <Aleksander> bekks, jpds I want to know what graphic driver is being used right now
[09:24] <Aleksander> how to do that?
[09:24] <bekks> Aleksander: lsmod is sufficient to check which module is loaded.
[09:24] <jpds> Aleksander: lspci -vvnn
[09:24] <jpds> Aleksander: And look for your card.
[09:24] <bekks> lspci -k
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: Ubuntu hasn't shipped with one for a few releases now but if one is present, it will be obeyed.
[09:25] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: how does it look
[09:25] <Aleksander> why can't Ubuntu use KISS, like Arch does? >.<
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: I don't believe your chip is supported by the nvidia driver. If you run nvidia-settings do you get a warning dialogue or does it run as expected?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: it does
[09:25] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: is there a way to try and force 1024??
[09:25] <Aleksander> ActionParsnip, I can't run nvidia-settings, I can't start any graphical DE
[09:26] <bekks> Aleksander: Because Archlinux is offtopic in here. ;) And an existing default xorg.conf is a perfect since of a prehistoric OS design.
[09:26] <liujianfeng> hello,world!
[09:26] <bekks> Aleksander: Because you are using intel, and the nvidia driver isnt used at the moment.  :P
[09:27] <meowmeow> runs fine
[09:27] <liujianfeng> kernelhacker,nice name
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: ok, what driver version does it say you are running?
[09:27] <meowmeow> just same thing as Display, there's no option to change my resolution
[09:27] <Aleksander> jpds, as are grub's menu.lst, and working Ubuntu releases.
[09:27] <aguadito> romney peaked mid-october and has been down-hill ever since
[09:27] <meowmeow> 96.43.20
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: ahhh makes sense. let me see
[09:27] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, i actually believe 12.10 to be the best release in years,
[09:28] <kernelhacker> .
[09:28] <prgmmer> I had a partial upgrade issue and running 'apt-get -f install' results in dependency issues with libc6-dev libc6-dev-i386 and libc6-i386. I am using a 64-bit system. Can anybody help me fix this so I can install and remove packages again?
[09:28] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, any reasons?
[09:28] <jpds> Aleksander: Yeah, thank goodness for GRUB2.
[09:28] <bekks> Aleksander: there is no menu.lst in grub2 anymore...
[09:28] <liujianfeng> I am still using 12.04
[09:28] <Aleksander> bekks, that's what I said.
[09:28] <jpds> Aleksander: It seems that you just don't like change.
[09:29] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: what's the good word amigo
[09:29] <liujianfeng> yes,tired of changing
[09:29] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, absolutely no issues for me. previous few releases i've had dramas. but not yet in 12.10.
[09:29] <Aleksander> ow, I see what caused the problem.
[09:29] <Aleksander> I've removed webapps
[09:29] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, best release since 8.10.
[09:29] <Aleksander> and the unity won't work without them.
[09:30] <Aleksander> I love how all ubuntus are dependency hells
[09:30] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, what?
[09:30] <bekks> Unity works perfectly without webapps.
[09:30] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, unity is dependant on webapps
[09:30] <bekks> It isnt. Thats just a lie.
[09:30] <kernelhacker> and you removed it?
[09:30] <Aleksander> yes, and it's just now I see that it was a dependency
[09:31] <bekks> I dont have any webapps installed, and my Unity works fine - on several computers.
[09:31] <prgmmer> Hi. Can anyone help me with the libc6 unmet dependencies issues? apt-get -f install does does not seem to work
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     and change it to this:  http://pastie.org/5175865
[09:31] <Aleksander> bekks, you still have the package
[09:31] <bekks> Webapps depend on Unity, not vice versa...
[09:31] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: cheers
[09:31] <bekks> I do not have that package.
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: note the new subsection, that's all I added
[09:31] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, just try reinstalling webapps. i can't see it being the issue.
[09:31] <billy-> how to open the terminal from the ubuntu live cd desktop?
[09:31] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: need I reboot?
[09:31] <liujianfeng> dash
[09:31] <OpenSorce> Can one of you guys make that bot point me to how I change the loading screen (the right after the grub menu) in 12.04?
[09:31] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, I did and it WAS the issue
[09:32] <Aleksander> it's working all right now
[09:32] <kernelhacker> that's great then.
[09:32] <billy-> liujianfeng: did you answer to me?
[09:32] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: or can i log out?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: if you get no desktop on reboot, hold SHIFT at boot, select recovery mode, select root and you can edit the file in CLI using nano/vi etc and reboot by running: reboot
[09:32] <kernelhacker> awesome you got it sorted.
[09:32] <Aleksander> it isn't great, Ubuntu's a frickin' dependency hell.
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: I'djust reboot
[09:32] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: great
[09:32] <jpds> Aleksander: Which package was it?
[09:32] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, all distros can be like that.
[09:32] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, arch isn't.
[09:32] <billy-> how to open the terminal from the ubuntu live cd desktop? I can't find the terminal.... there is no icon for it on the left and no results on search, please help me
[09:32] <kernelhacker> nature of liux eco-system.
[09:33] <kernelhacker> linux
[09:33] <Aleksander> jpds, unity-webapps-service
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> prgmmer: can you give the output of: sudo apt-get -f install
[09:33] <ArchOpenBox> Aleksander: Come off this idea.  Ubuntu has the most packages to its package manager.
[09:33] <kernelhacker> use arch then.
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: any package based distro can get tangled like that

[09:33] <bekks> Aleksander: Arch is even worse, because in Arch no one even checks those dependencies. But thats offtopic.
[09:33] <Aleksander> bekks, I know, I tried installing it yesterday xD
[09:33] <Aleksander> It installed a base system without dependencies
[09:33] <kernelhacker> haha, i installed arch this evening actually.
[09:33] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: sure give me a second, running it again
[09:34] <kernelhacker> base is fine.
[09:34] <liujianfeng> arch is a little bit difficult for me
[09:34] <billy-> how to open the terminal from the ubuntu live cd desktop? I can't find the terminal.... there is no icon for it on the left and no results on search, please help me
[09:34] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, it installs wifi-menu, but no dialog or wpa_supplicant
[09:34] <Aleksander> billy-, what livecd are you using?
[09:34] <Aleksander> 12.10?
[09:34] <bekks> billy-: Type "Terminal" in the search field.
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> kernelhacker: gentoo is a little easier to dig out of imho as emerge can install  whatever you want, as long as files are in the right place things work :)
[09:35] <kernelhacker> liujianfeng, it's source based. very different from what you'd be used to with ubuntu.
[09:35] <liujianfeng> some people get stuck in the rooling update
[09:35] <billy-> I downloaded it yesterday
[09:35] <kernelhacker> ubuntu is binary based.
[09:35] <ArchOpenBox> bekks: what pls another lie both of you need to get lost with these ideas.  Arch no one checks packages a lie. AUR packages... wow both of you are fan boys. I run both and no issues with either.
[09:35] <billy-> bekks: no results found
[09:35] <OerHeks> billy-,  press ctrl+ alt + T
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> billy-: press CTRL+ALT+T
[09:35] <billy-> OerHeks: I will try thx
[09:35] <bekks> kernelhacker: Arch is a binary distro as well. It isnt source based.
[09:35] <kernelhacker> ArchOpenBox, get over it dude.
[09:35] <OpenSorce> Can one of you guys make that bot point me to how I change the loading screen (the right after the grub menu) in 12.04?
[09:35] <ArchOpenBox> fan boys stop the lies
[09:36] <Aleksander> okay, gtg
[09:36] <OpenSorce> Or is it not an easy thing to do?
[09:36] <Aleksander> read you later
[09:36] <bekks> ArchOpenBox: I used arch for a long time by myself. I know why I dont use it anymore, and I know I am right. Believe it or not. And please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic now.
[09:36] <kernelhacker> arch is source based, am i wrong?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> ArchOpenBox: I can give you a million links from launchpad with people in dep hell after adding PPAs and so forth
[09:36] <bekks> kernelhacker: You are wrong.
[09:36] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: no luck
[09:36] <kernelhacker> bekks, thanks.
[09:37] <meowmeow> i am trying to add a 1024x768 to my Display resolutions
[09:37] <meowmeow> any ideas?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: you'll be fighting the xorg.conf file til you get what you want
[09:38] <ArchOpenBox> ActionParsnip: I don't have any of these problems I find hardware that is middle of the road and my systems work every time. Don't need a website been through the problems of having wifi cards and graphics card that I had to wait 6 months before a drive was available.
[09:38] <food> Anyone can help me with this please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2080089
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> ArchOpenBox: use the OS for a long time and you'll hit some snags :)
[09:38] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: The output is pretty long. Here's the last portion of the output. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1328699/
[09:38] <meowmeow> Section "Screen"
[09:38] <meowmeow>   Identifier  "Default Screen"
[09:38] <meowmeow>   DefaultDepth  24
[09:38] <meowmeow>   Option  "AddARGBGLXVisuals"  "True"
[09:38] <meowmeow>   Subsection "Display"
[09:38] <FloodBot1> meowmeow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:38] <meowmeow>       Depth       24
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> food: does it affect all users?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> food: like new users?
[09:39] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: you are out of ideas?
[09:39] <ArchOpenBox> ActionParsnip: I distro Jump so hit snags all the time the last snag I hit in ubuntu was the 9.10 when they changed Amorka and I started using Song bird. Nothing hard to Google search for a solution. Just be patient
[09:40] <kernelhacker> ArchOpenBox, why distro hop so much?
[09:40] <food> ActionParsnip, I don't know but many users affected with this issue perhaps who are using modern Laptop
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: you need to fight the xorg.conf file, there are examples online you can use and you can throw stuff in the file to see if it flys
[09:40] <bekks> ArchOpenBox: 9.10 is gone for three years, and the application called "Amarok" was changed by the KDE upstream, not by Ubuntu.
[09:40] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: okay
[09:41] <kernelhacker> bekks, not gone. just unsupported. ;-)
[09:41] <bekks> kernelhacker: ;)
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> ArchOpenBox: dude, check my karma on Launchpad. I help about 50 users a day on there with their issues. I'm quite patient :)
[09:41] <kernelhacker> heck, i still run 5.10, 6.06 and 8.10!
[09:41] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: Any idea what the procedure should be to fix the libc6-dev dependency issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1328699/. Thanks
[09:42] <savio> ActionParsnip, your great example for all of us
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> ArchOpenBox: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors   all by posting solutions for new users. I've been around the block a while :)
[09:42] <ArchOpenBox> ActionParsnip: I have watched you 100 of times help other users. For about 6 yrs now I know you track record. I just watch you gotten lots of good advice from you.
[09:42] <food> ActionParsnip, Do you have any idea about this issue?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> ArchOpenBox: :)
[09:42] <chakka> lll
[09:42] <davidmz> I am not an Linux expert, I want to have rsyslog report to a bash script I consoled the website of rsyslog and here is my /etc/rsyslog.conf and the bash script http://pastebin.com/69D8kfVw , I can't get this to work, the test.out file is not getting written, I feel like this is a permissions issue or something that I have missed been new to Linux, how to make it work?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> food: make a new user and see if it affects them
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> prgmmer: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[09:43] <chakka> i have just installed ubuntu 12.04 oo,i am not getting network connectoons .can someone please help me?
[09:43] <abhinavmehta> while reading man-pages, at the end we can see See Also section and few links like iptables-save(8), iptables-restore(8) etc…so how to jump on these pointers ..?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> chakka: what are you using for network connectivity?
[09:43] <ArchOpenBox> :) , lol Your fast and smart. I caught up over the yrs. You direct were I like to teach not just jump straight to a solution.
[09:44] <chakka> eth)
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> ArchOpenBox: hehe like it, glad I can help dude
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> chakka: what Ethernet chip are you using?
[09:44] <chakka> not getting internet through wird connections
[09:44] <food> ActionParsnip, Okay, Doing it . Again i need to wait for at least 24 hours to see the results
[09:44] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: It says "quantal". But when I login initially it always shows 12.04. I believe I am in some weird partial-upgrade hell. System is usable, I just can't install or remove anything via apt-get.
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> chakka: are there flashing lights around the Ethernet port where the cable hits the system?
[09:44] <chakka> i dont know sir
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> prgmmer: quantal is 12.10
[09:45] <chakka> no my laptop does not have the facility
[09:45] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: I know, but when I login it says 12.04. My repos have been all updated to quantal.
[09:46] <food> ActionParsnip, I installed 2 external kernel (3.4 , 3.5) ... Do you think it is fault of the kernel?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> chakka: if you run:    sudo lshw -C network     it will show the ethernet chip on a line with the word 'product' on, you can use that to find guides. check the activity lights on the port and router (I assume it's a router)
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> chakka: does the interface have an IP address?
[09:46] <chakka> thank u sir
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> food: if they add libc packages, then ost likely
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> chakka: does the interface have an IP address?
[09:47] <chakka> i dont know
[09:47] <chakka> ip is there
[09:47] <chakka> but interface i dont understand
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> chakka: if you run:  ping -c 4 <IP_ADDRESS>       do you get replies?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> chakka: interface is eth0 and so forth
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> food: if you run:   apt-cache policy libc6-dev:amd64 libgdbm-dev      can you please pastebin the output
[09:48] <ArchOpenBox> ifconfig -a would work
[09:48] <chakka> iai dont know ,,now iam using windows since ubuntu net is not availanble
[09:49] <chakka> i will check an confirm dont go anywhere
[09:49] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: So my repositories say quantal, but I'm still stuck with this weird libc6-dev i386 and amd64 dependency issue. Any ideas how to fix the packages so apt-get will work again? Is there some kind of manual method?
[09:49] <chakka> sir..
[09:50] <food> ActionParsnip, sure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1328723/
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> prgmmer: can you pastebin the output of the command I gave please
[09:50] <chakka> i tried to install driver of eth0 but while make command executes ut gives error
[09:50] <chakka> saying no makefile
[09:50] <chakka> in the target
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> chakka: does the interface have an IP?
[09:51] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: of lsb_release -sc? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1328728/
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> chakka: do the lights flash around the physical connection
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> prgmmer: oh jeez, what a mess. Partial upgrades are always hell
[09:52] <food> ActionParsnip, Anything ?
[09:52] <chakka> my laptop does not have any lights for connections...iam able to use connections on wndows but ubuntu is not detecting any
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> chakka: if you run:    ip addr | grep inet     do you see an IP for your subnet?
[09:53] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: yup, I've been surviving for about a month on just compiling stuff out of git, but some of the packages I need have about 20 dependencies and I feel like I'm only avoiding the problem and that it's gonna bite me in the ass.
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> chakka: its a stadard to have lights, there is one solid for connection and one flashes for data
[09:53] <chakka> i will log off and check it and get back to you in 10 mins..thank you
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> prgmmer: I'd just clean install Quantal if it was me. If you intend to get to Quantal anyway. Makes life easier
[09:54] <krofna> My dash broke after I removed all the annoying unity-lens(such as amazon). It doesn't find anything... Help?
[09:55] <minwinpc> Hi, I have some problems with the media control keys on my laptop. How can I reassign a key to a specific function?
[09:56] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: Is there a good way of transferring over settings or possibly doing a "clean-install" without having to format? I already have a "dead" Ubuntu 6.x-8.04 partition that has data. This will make for another dead partition.
[09:57] <billy-> I'm using ubuntu live cd, I pressed ctrl+alt+F1, I got terminal only window, how to return to the gui?
[09:57] <gordonjcp> billy-: try one of the other F keys
[09:57] <bekks> prgmmer: Why dont you backup your data and repartition your harddisk to get your wasted space back?
[09:57] <ecataranciuc> billy-: alt+f7
[09:58] <gordonjcp> prgmmer: or just go and get another drive, and keep the old one for backups
[09:59] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: It's just a lot of data. Would moving my home directory to a separate partition make it easier to deal with clean-installing of the operating system?
[10:00] <billy-> when I click on the HOME FOLDER I can see the harddisk I've attacked: "/export/hda3", but in the terminal I don't have this path, I don't have /export directory at all
[10:00] <bekks> prgmmer: I'd create a backup, format/repartition the whole thing, reinstall Ubuntu, and use a separate /home partition.
[10:01] <prgmmer> bekks: Are there any other directories in addition to /home that would make sense to make into separate partitions to accommodate clean-installs of Ubuntu every so often. This happens to me every few years.
[10:02] <bekks> prgmmer: No.
[10:02] <bekks> prgmmer: I never wasted space when reinstalling, to be honest. :)
[10:02] <prgmmer> bekks: what's a good estimate for the system size vs the /home directory?
[10:02] <billy-> in the list of devices I see: "/export/hda3", "/" and "Floppy Disk". how to access /export/hda3 from the terminal as root?
[10:06] <bekks> prgmmer: With 30GB, you'll be very fine for your system.
[10:06] <prgmmer> bekks: thanks. I'll go check with the disk usage analyzer. I'm fairly certain that's a good estimate.. thanks
[10:07] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[10:09] <savio> when we create separate partition for /home directory is it possible to use that same partition while reinstalling ubuntu without losing data
[10:10] <chakka> i have installed ubuntu recently on my laptop ,but i am not getting any network, both wired and wireless .i am new to ubuntu ,please help
[10:10] <belias> hello guys. need help with ubuntu relationship.. when i reboot my pc ubuntu automatically starts all programs which was ON when pc reboot
[10:11] <dr_willis> savio:  yes you can keep your existing /home/ partion and its data safe. You do need to rember to add the users back in the same order. or else your uids can getmessed up
[10:11] <dr_willis> belias:  which desktop are you using?
[10:12] <belias> dr_willis: ubuntu 10.10
[10:12] <savio> dr_willis, you are suggesting that order of adding user must be same
[10:12] <savio> dr_willis, will encrypted home partition also work?
[10:12] <dr_willis> savio:  i always add them in the same order. or else the uids may not match up. but i only have 3 users.
[10:12] <dr_willis> I dont use encrypted homes.. so no idea on those.
[10:13] <dr_willis> !sessions
[10:13] <dr_willis> !session
[10:13] <savio> dr_willis, thanks
[10:13] <dr_willis> belias:  there used to be a session manager/save session option. but ive not seen it or used it in ages.
[10:14] <palasso> Which is more stable? An LTS release with backports and PPAs in order to have some standalone apps updated or the latest regular release?
[10:14] <belias> dr_willis: sry... i have xfce4 desktop... on gnome its working.. but xfce saved session on every reboot
[10:14] <dr_willis> palasso:  i imagine it depends on the exact apps./
[10:14] <dr_willis> belias:  check the xfce session settings I guess. i never use xfce.
[10:15] <wols> palasso: if you don't want to do things like using gnome from backports, the LTS should be more stable
[10:15] <chakka> i have installed ubuntu recently on my laptop ,but i am not getting any network, both wired and wireless .i am new to ubuntu ,please some one help
[10:15] <wols> chakka: lspci -nn |grep -i net
[10:16] <belias> dr_willis: i think i've got it :) thx :)
[10:16] <palasso> I am on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and thinking to stay on this release because it's LTS and it's supposed to be more stable. But I'd like to have updated apps (not core gnome apps) so I was thinking to use backports or PPAs. The other option would be to install the last regular release.
[10:16] <wols> chakka: that will give you PCI IDs of the form 168c:001a which tells you what actual hardware you have
[10:16] <wols> palasso: which update apps?
[10:16] <chakka> cannot access pci
[10:17] <dr_willis> stable is a somewhat .. well vague term. ;) the core of the os. the kernel and so forth should be very stable. but its always the little things like video drivers and some apps that seem to make things unstable for me. even then i find 12.10 very stable here.
[10:17] <chakka> no such file or directory
[10:17] <dr_willis> chakka:  it was lspci   not ls pci
[10:17] <dr_willis> chakka:  it was lspci   not ls pci
[10:17] <dr_willis> oops. ;P
[10:17] <palasso> wols example: http://www.opbyte.it/grsync/
[10:18] <palasso> "This version has session sets enabled" It's a nice feature. Without it I'll be using SBackup
[10:18] <chakka> it gives network controller as broad corporation devices
[10:19] <chakka> ethernet controller atheros communications inc
[10:19] <Dora_the_explore> hi guys! wanna go on an adventure?
[10:19] <dr_willis> the 'addational drivers' tool may show some stuff needed for the wireless card.  but if wired is not working either..  you should try to get wired going first.
[10:20] <chakka> how can i get wired cooncetion to work?
[10:20] <_Desu_> connect rj-45 cable into rj-45 socket
[10:20] <dr_willis> chakka:  does the 'ifconfig' command show info on a eth0 or eth1 type device?
[10:21] <chakka> no such results
[10:21] <_Desu_> seriously?
[10:21] <dr_willis> it just shows a 'lo' device?
[10:22] <chakka> ya no reslts with eth0 or eth1
[10:22] <dr_willis> any other devices at all  ?
[10:22] <chakka> ya 8 other
[10:23] <billy-> in the list of devices I see: "/export/hda3", "/" and "Floppy Disk". how to access /export/hda3 from the terminal as root?
[10:23] <dr_willis> chakka:  such as?
[10:23] <chakka> link,inet,UP,RX,TX,collisions,RX
[10:23] <dr_willis> those are info lines.. the device is the left most colum.,...
[10:23] <chakka> inet6
[10:23] <dr_willis> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr f4:6d:04:9e:90:62
[10:23] <dr_willis>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:23] <dr_willis> eth0 is the DEVICE in that line....
[10:23] <chakka> leftlmost column is lo
[10:24] <dr_willis> so you ONLY have a line like...
[10:24] <dr_willis> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[10:24] <chakka> it is not showing eth0 in that column
[10:24] <chakka> yes
[10:24] <dr_willis>  then some other info.... indented in.
[10:24] <chakka> i dont understand.
[10:25] <dr_willis> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[10:25] <dr_willis>        inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:25] <dr_willis>        inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[10:25] <dr_willis> Note how the following lines are INDENTED  over to the right...
[10:25] <chakka> yes
[10:25] <dr_willis> that seperates the various devices.
[10:26] <chakka> and 5 other results
[10:26] <dr_willis> if you only have info on an lo device. then your wired card dose not seem to be recognized, or have its modules loaded.
[10:26] <chakka> ok only lo is present in the leftmost column
[10:27] <_deXter_> Hi folks, how do I share my net connection via ethernet but with DHCP enabled? I user the "shared" option in NetworkManager but it only works if I manually assign an IP on the other machine
[10:27] <chakka> ok..what should i do??
[10:27] <billy-> in the list of devices I see: "/export/hda3", "/" and "Floppy Disk". how to access /export/hda3 from the terminal as root?
[10:27] <ecataranciuc> chakka: paste output of lspci -nn to pastebin.ubuntu.com
[10:27] <dr_willis> billy-:  what list are you talking about.. and see what the output of 'mount' shows for the mountpoints
[10:28] <dr_willis> lspci -nn |grep -i net     output should be 1  or 2 lines.. i think. ;)
[10:28] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: I think you need to turn on the dhcpcd daemon on your machine.
[10:28] <almatrix> i have a problem with ubuntu vga
[10:28] <peacock> !ot
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> billy-:    cd /export/hda3
[10:28] <billy-> dr_willis: after I click on the home dir icon on the left, I can see a list of devices (in the left side of the windows)
[10:28] <minwinpc> How can I list all running processes in the terminal?
[10:28] <almatrix> hi
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: give details and we may be able to help
[10:28] <chakka> i am currently on another system runnig the other simultaneously
[10:28] <dr_willis> billy-:  if they are mounted, the mount command shows the path. or ctrl-l in the file manager shows the path
[10:28] <ecataranciuc> minwinpc: ps ax
[10:28] <ecataranciuc> minwinpc: read man pages or google.
[10:29] <almatrix> i have a problem with ubuntu vga card in acer spire 5732z please help he to fix it
[10:29] <blackhole> hi to all
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> minwinpc: ps -ef | less   and you can view them all in the pager
[10:29] <dr_willis> almatrix:  and the exact problem is?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: what video chip does it use?
[10:29] <chakka> output was two lines dr_wills
[10:29] <_deXter_> ecataranciuc, good idea, will check it out
[10:29] <bipul> almatrix,  use ubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:30] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: One moment.
[10:30] <meowmoew> guys
[10:30] <meowmoew> i really need my resolution fixed
[10:30] <almatrix> the black screen
[10:30] <chakka> dr_willis output was two lines
[10:30] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: dhcpcd has a client and a server component.
[10:30] <billy-> dr_willis: got it thx
[10:30] <meowmoew> i just had to boot into the livecd because recovery console takes no keyboard input
[10:30] <dr_willis> chakka: ... and those lines are?......  you get a line for each network device.. so 2 lines makes sence...
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: seems to be some Intel ting, is that right?
[10:31] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: http://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/how-to-install-the-dhcp-server-on-ubuntu-12-04lts/
[10:31] <meowmoew> how can I add resolution options to "Dash --> Displays"
[10:31] <_deXter_> ecataranciuc, thanks
[10:31] <chakka> network controller broadcom........
[10:31] <almatrix> its intel
[10:31] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: You are welcome! ;-)
[10:31] <chakka> ethernet controller atheros...
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: and what is the issue?
[10:31] <bipul> almatrix,  you motherboard is of intel?
[10:32] <dr_willis> we need more info then just broadcom... broadcom is a company that makes dozens of chips/cards,.....
[10:32] <almatrix> yup bipul
[10:32] <dr_willis> same for atheros...
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: what is your video issue?
[10:32] <ecataranciuc> chakka: Do you know how to use pastebin.ubuntu.com?
[10:32] <chakka> no
[10:32] <almatrix> i think its vga card dr_willis
[10:32] <ecataranciuc> chakka: Did you have a look on that page?
[10:33] <chakka> broadcom corporation device[14e4:4365](rev 01)
[10:33] <ecataranciuc> chakka: www.pastebin.ubuntu.com
[10:33] <dr_willis> almatrix:  vga is a video standard.. not a chipset... so 'vga' tells us nothing...
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: the pysical connectivity doesn't matter
[10:33] <chakka> it is not available
[10:33] <ecataranciuc> chakka: paste the output of lspci -nn to www.pastebin.ubuntu.com
[10:33] <chakka> dr_willis broadcom corporation device[14e4:4365](rev 01)
[10:33] <ecataranciuc> chakka: And give us the resulting link.
[10:34] <almatrix> so what is the problem when i connect it with external lcd vga works will but here the screen is black
[10:34] <Archaical> morning kittens.
[10:34] <Archaical> sudo morning kittens.....!!!!
[10:34] <bipul> it must be some xorg issue https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:36] <dr_willis> chakka:  that broadcom is your wireless card - from what i am reading at ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078800
[10:36] <chakka> the lin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1328803/
[10:37] <dr_willis> aparently its a tricky/unsupported wireless card.. wat was the info for your wired device (the other entry)
[10:37] <almatrix> ubuntu 10.04 working good but when i updated it don't work the screen is black just please help me i want to update my version
[10:37] <almatrix> please
[10:37] <almatrix> dr_willis
[10:37] <chakka> ok what  should i do to get it working??
[10:37] <Archaical> any script writing gurus here, having trouble figuring out the syntax for a script im working on.  Im working on an if statement that looks at all the folders in a directory with an extension and makes a symlink to that folder without the extension on it.  so for example.  if *.fldr exists ln -s *.fldr ./*
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[10:38] <dr_willis> almatrix:  start by trying the nomodeset option to see if you can boot to a desktop. then try to reinstall the video drivers for your chipset.
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: Lucid is EOL in 6 months, just so you know
[10:38] <chakka> dr_willis http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1328803/
[10:38] <almatrix> when i can find the video driver dr_willis
[10:39] <almatrix> from where i mean dr_willis
[10:39] <Archaical> dr_willis: you are popular this morning =D  god bless you for helping out brother.
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: the intel video driver is in a default install
[10:39] <dr_willis> chakka:  some info/fix seems to be here.. but it may be a bit complex for you.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12206899
[10:39] <ecataranciuc> chakka: poste output of: lsmod | grep -i ath to pastebin.ubuntu.com
[10:39] <dr_willis> chakka:  id bookmark that page
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Archaical: I'd ask in #bash too
[10:40] <Archaical> ActionParsnip: thanks, heading there now.  cheers.
[10:41] <chakka> no results for lsmod | grep -i ath
[10:41] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:42] <ecataranciuc> chakka: Try lsmod | grep -i alx
[10:43] <chakka> no results
[10:43] <_deXter_> Hmm, did that ecataranciuc, doesn't seem to be working.
[10:44] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: I never used a dhcpc server so I am not sure I can help you from here. You may try google for another tutorial.
[10:44] <_deXter_> oh wait, it worked ecataranciuc
[10:44] <ecataranciuc> chakka: What ubuntu version do you use?
[10:44] <_deXter_> I just had to reboot the client lol
[10:45] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: Nice. :-)
[10:45] <chakka> ubuntu 12.04
[10:45] <dr_willis> chakka:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/157223/12-04-does-not-detect-eth0atheros-ar8162
[10:45] <_deXter_> Sweet, now I can finally ssh into my Raspberry Pi and configure the wireless.. :P
[10:45] <dr_willis> seems to give a fix but its not going to be trivial.
[10:45] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: You need always to reebot the daemon after you make changes. This is a rule for every service.
[10:46] <almatrix> dr_willis
[10:46] <ecataranciuc> chakka: Have you tried the 12.10? Give it a try after using the tip dr_willis gave you.
[10:47] <dr_willis> chakka:  id definatly try it on a 12.10 live cd. that would be the easy way to get it going if 12.10 supports it.
[10:47] <dr_willis> almatrix:  Hmm?
[10:47] <almatrix> help me i want to update my ubuntu version please
[10:48] <dr_willis> I thought you allready upgraded to 12.10?
[10:48] <almatrix> no it's 10.04
[10:48] <dr_willis> I rarely upgrade. it just takes too long.
[10:48] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[10:49] <almatrix> ok no problem
[10:49] <dr_willis> and i goof my systems so much it normally fails anyway. ;) so i clean install
[10:50] <Aerosonic> Guys. Help me explain what Linux kernel does. I need it in *very* basic terms that a 5 year old can understand.
[10:50] <almatrix> but when i updated it the screen resolution not works mr. dr_willis
[10:50] <dr_willis> Aerosonic:  its the foundation of the house that is the computers OS.
[10:50] <Aerosonic> dr_willis: Can you.. uhh.. provide some.. analogies?
[10:50] <dr_willis> almatrix:  you just said you were on 10.04  you mean you Updated TO 10.04?
[10:50] <jrib> that is an analogy :)
[10:51] <almatrix> no updated to 11.10 mr_willis
[10:51] <dr_willis> ya got that BIG flat lego peice you stick all the other lego peices on... ;) thats the kernel...
[10:51] <Aerosonic> jrib: Uhh. I need a simple explanation of what it does.
[10:51] <almatrix> i want to update it to last version
[10:51] <dr_willis> its the foundation of the OS. seems about as simple as its going to get.. you asked for what a 5 yr old could understand.
[10:52] <kamnikaz> i hate unity i'm on xubuntu but last time i tested unity was on 10.10... do the 12.10 with Unity 6 is better ?
[10:52] <jrib> Aerosonic: lets software talk to hardware
[10:52] <dr_willis> kamnikaz:  12.10 and unity works well for me...
[10:52] <Meow> hey I am in root recovery console and I cannot write to fix my sort
[10:52] <Meow> My xorg.conf
[10:52] <ecataranciuc> Aerosonic: Kernel is the heart of the OS. It helps to pump the resources.
[10:52] <Aerosonic> ecataranciuc: "Like a bridge?" she asks?
[10:52] <totodist1> Bau bau a tutto il chan da totodist1
[10:52] <dr_willis> kernels are like onions....
[10:53] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:53] <Meow> How to write to my xorg.conf
[10:53] <ecataranciuc> Aerosonic: She is perfectly right.
[10:53] <dr_willis> Meow:  its possible your partion is mounted read only, and you need to remount it read/write
[10:53] <ecataranciuc> Aerosonic: It is a bridge between the hardware and software.
[10:53] <Meow> HELLoooooooopoooooookioo
[10:53] <ecataranciuc> Meow: Hi.
[10:53] <chakka> dr_wills i have tried what you suggested but it shows error while executing make
[10:53] <Aerosonic> Thanks guys!
[10:54] <Meow> See
[10:54] <Meow> S
[10:54] <kamnikaz> thx but is it worth the change
[10:54] <ecataranciuc> Aerosonic: You are welcome! ;-)
[10:54] <Aerosonic> Oh god. Incoming question. "Is it like DOS?"
[10:54] <dr_willis> chakka:  because theres  a lot of other packages you need to install inorder to compile stuff.. i would suggest trying the devices on a 12.10 live cd. if it works in 12.10 then that will save you several hours of time and effort.
[10:54] <Aerosonic> It's not quite like DOS.
[10:54] <Aerosonic> How can I explain that?
[10:54] <Meow> I'm in root recovery console trying to write to xorg.conf says read only what in the fuck
[10:55] <danny_> Trying to 'calibrate' my monitor using gnome color manager, but it's greyed out. I downloaded icc-profiles, and all i can do is select them, and even that has no effect. How can I calibrate my monitor?
[10:55] <dr_willis> Meow:  its possible your partion is mounted read only, and you need to remount it read/write
[10:55] <chakka> ok i will try that
[10:55] <ecataranciuc> Aerosonic: Actually it is simillar. But just on the surface.
[10:55] <dr_willis> i seem to recall teh recovery console having some menu item/entry for remounting / rw
[10:55] <Tm_T> Meow: language, please
[10:56] <ecataranciuc> Aerosonic: The implementation of the drivers, software is very different.
[10:56] <Meow> How the hell do I do that
[10:56] <Meow> This is so fucked
[10:56] <Archaical> =D
[10:56] <dr_willis> mount has a remount option you could use.
[10:56] <Meow> Just trying to add a resolution now I can't even boot
[10:56] <ecataranciuc> Meow: The file system may be mounted read only.
[10:56] <dr_willis> or there MAY be some menu item i recall in the recovery menus...
[10:56] <dr_willis> that does it..
[10:56] <Tm_T> Meow: please watch your language
[10:57] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/175739/how-do-i-remount-a-filesystem-as-read-write
[10:57] <dr_willis> sudo mount -o remount,rw /partition/identifier /mount/point
[10:57] <ecataranciuc> Meow: oh, dr_willis was ahead of me. :-)
[10:57] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com lense is handy.  I downloaded icc-profiles, and all i can do is select them, and even that has no effect. How can I calibrate my monitor?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> JasonC_: you'll need to resize your EXt4 to make room then install
[10:59] <Meow> Ubuntu has been going downhill for a while now
[10:59] <savio> dr_willis, i am thinking about repartitioning my system i have dual boot with win 7 and i allocate 60 gb to my linux partition
[10:59] <desu> (assuming his entrie hard drive is EXT4)
[10:59] <jrib> Meow: quit it with the language.  Tm_T is asking you nicely.  But if you will be banned if you don't stop.  Keep it family-friendly and let's focus on support
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> JasonC_: you will need to mess with your boot loader as the Windows installer will blindly overwrite grub in the MBR
[10:59] <jrib> s/if//
[10:59] <chakka> dr_willis how do i make cd??
[10:59] <Archaical> lol its funny how the second something goes wrong its immediately ubuntu's fault.
[11:00] <desu> If you don't like ubuntu don't use it.
[11:00] <Archaical> exactly.
[11:00] <savio> dr_willis, will 30 gb for my / partition do good?
[11:00] <dr_willis> chakka:  from windows? theres dozens of programs to do it. you need a cd image burner app. or use a flash drive to put it on usb with one of the tools from the pendrivelinux web site.
[11:00] <desu> Try debian or linux mint maybe? and then go complain on their ircs
[11:00] <dr_willis> savio:  30gb for / would be useable. ;)
[11:00]  * Archaical * Meow<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Quit (Quit: Raged and Page closed)
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> savio: I always assign 10Gb for / :)
[11:00] <ubuntuaddicted> morning
[11:00] <BluesKaj> guys don't feed the troll
[11:00] <JasonC_> @actionparsnip, i know all of this but i want to download it legally and dont know how because i dont think wine is compatible with upgrade asssistant
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> savio: but I have a separate /home partition
[11:01] <dr_willis> i have filled up 10gb /  - but that was due to temp space for making dvd videos. ;)
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> JasonC_: how is wine a factor here?
[11:01] <ubuntuaddicted> need help with pulseaudio, sick of seeing these errors.
[11:01] <Archaical> 30gb is pretty fair size for simply usage.  (not storing dvd's and porn etc.)
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[11:02] <JasonC_> @actionparsnip to install winodws 8 via microsoft, you need to install software called uprage asisstant
[11:02] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted,what errors?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> JasonC_: then you need to boot to the install CD and install it there. You don't run the CD in Ubuntu
[11:03] <JasonC_> whats the install cd?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> JasonC_: the install CD of Windows 8
[11:04] <JasonC_> so i have to buy it from a shop to get the dvd, but my computer doesnt have a cd drive :P, can i somehow put it on a usb?
[11:04] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/1SU1PM60
[11:05] <robbie> I accidentally uninstalled a bunch of core stuff and had to reinstall the system, using the option to keep the files. I had some work to get the video and the user account numbers matching the home directories but it is mustly good
[11:05] <robbie> *mostly good now
[11:05] <robbie> but I still have 2 issues
[11:05] <robbie> no sound whatsoever, and the tty screen size is wrong (fonts are big)
[11:06] <guang_> guys working on a terminal do not use web browser?
[11:06] <JasonC_> @ActionParsnip so i have to buy it from a shop to get the dvd, but my computer doesnt have a cd drive :P, can i somehow put it on a usb?
[11:06] <savio> ActionParsnip, dr_willis i use my ubuntu box as security destro so i thinking 30 gb for /home and rest for other
[11:06] <savio> i.e other 30 gb
[11:06] <jrib> guang_: there are web browsers for the terminal: w3m, links2, elinks, lynx, probably more...
[11:06] <robbie> pulseaudio does not start on boot, and even if I start it it doesnt seem to do anything
[11:07] <robbie> and all the guides I can find are for older versions of ubuntu -- Im on 12.10
[11:07] <guang_> jrib:but it can not deal with image well
[11:07] <jrib> guang_: sure
[11:07] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, the thing is I only have a 2 speaker setup with a bass speaker as well so I don't need 5.1 surround. how do I get error to stop so it doesn't fill my syslog repeatedly
[11:07] <jrib> guang_: I think one of them can use framebuffer, I don't remember
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> JasonC_: no idea, I'd ask in ##windows
[11:09] <RajeevGEC> is it possible to disable the F4 function key?
[11:09] <jrib> RajeevGEC: why?
[11:09] <RajeevGEC> its a hardawre prob in my laptop..the key is always pressed
[11:10] <crusie> hey- wanna try out ubuntu - got 16 gb of ram in my machine - I'm planning in installing xen on it and running windows 7x64 on top of that - should I choose 32 or 64 bit?
[11:11] <cfhowlett> crusie: 64
[11:11] <crusie> there should be no issues with programs not working or being unstable cfhowlett ?`
[11:11] <mrgreeen> c'è qualcuno?
[11:11] <dr_willis> i cant think of any issues with 64bit.. been using it for ages.
[11:12] <cfhowlett> crusie: 64 is optimized for ram of > 4 gigs.
[11:12] <dr_willis> can xen on 16bit even run a 64bit os?
[11:12] <dr_willis> oops on 32bit.. ;P
[11:12] <crusie> dr_willis:  it says so on the website
[11:13] <jrib> RajeevGEC: it should be possibel, but I don't know the best way
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: that'd be genius, 16bit desktop PC
[11:13] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, open a terminal and run , ps aux | grep pulseaudio ..we need to know if pulse is running
[11:13] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, what would removing my entire .pulse folder do to my setup?
[11:13] <RajeevGEC> ok....google dint help me much...thanks anyway :)
[11:13] <crusie> cfhowlett: I know that - I just wonder why the 32 bit version is recommended on the ubuntu website
[11:14] <dr_willis> crusie:  idiot proofing..
[11:14] <dr_willis> crusie:  if you have no idea what your bittness is.... they suggest 32..
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: the pulseaudio service is configure to auto-restart, it will make default config folders. You need to kill the process off to free up the data so it can be removed
[11:14] <jrib> RajeevGEC: I would look into loadkeys, dumpkeycodes, and setkeycodes as a starting point
[11:14] <crusie> dr_willis: ah ofc... I'm just guessing that people that wanna install an alternative os knows these things about their pc
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> crusie: it runs on all desktop CPUs as a 64bit CPU can run 32bit OS.
[11:15] <jrib> RajeevGEC: if it's ok to just ignore it in X, then something like xmodmap might be easier
[11:15] <cfhowlett> crusie: the eternal question.  Developers and bearded linux gurus can explain better than I ca n
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> crusie: remember the target audience of Ubuntu :)
[11:15] <dr_willis> crusie:  you hang in here enough.. and you learn that people dont want to think... ;)
[11:15] <crusie> hehe
[11:15] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/EVQD3CZz
[11:15] <food> ActionParsnip, I made a new user ... Any other step should i take?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> food: log in as the new user, is it the same
[11:16] <crusie> cfhowlett: I just remember a couple of years ago ( might be 6) I installed a 64 version of... Debian I think - and it was all kinds of unstable
[11:16] <food> ActionParsnip, Yeah already logged as that user ... Now time to wait till it crashes again ... right?
[11:17] <dr_willis> crusie:  a couple of years ago... i was using a amiga with 16bits.. :) the past is long past...
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> food, yeah just test a bit. If it'sok then you know its your  config and not the apps themselves
[11:17] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, do you want to remove pulseaudio ? or am I mistaken , I thought you just wanted it to work
[11:17] <crusie> dr_willis: alright
[11:17] <billy-> dr_willis: I was able to access the /export/hda3 data, but my problem is this: this harddrive is booting with centos version 5, but I didn't see any 'boot' directory, not even 'var' or 'init. so how this harddisk is booting centos 5? the os files can be hidden some way?
[11:17] <dr_willis> i still miss some of the fetures of my amiga... ;P
[11:17] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, i just want the errors to go away. i want it to work
[11:18] <crusie> dr_willis: anything special I should know or read up on before I throw myself at ubuntu installing/playing with Xen ?
[11:18] <dr_willis> billy-:  they could be on differnt partions.
[11:18] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, ok
[11:18] <dr_willis> crusie:  never used xen. so no idea. ;P
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> crusie: I'd just go for it, have a play
[11:18] <billy-> dr_willis: which is not seen in ubuntu live cd? how to view it?
[11:18] <robbie> when I run gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub I get "Cannot open display"
[11:19] <dr_willis> check what gparted says about the disk layout billy- . theres a lot of complex disk things out there that i never use. like lvms and raids and so on.
[11:19] <food> robbie, sudo -s ; nano /etc/default/grub ?
[11:19] <dr_willis> robbie:  you on the console or in X?
[11:19] <robbie> why cant root open :0 though?
[11:19] <robbie> Im in X
[11:20] <dr_willis> the display variable may not be set perhaps.
[11:20] <robbie> dr_willis: it is .. I checked
[11:20] <Tanvir> Hello, I have factory installed Windows 7 in my machine which I had to bought, but as an Ubuntu user, I need to install Ubuntu (after doing the disk partition and so), but as I paid for it, I would also need a recovery disk for Windows. How can I set up Ubuntu in this machine which will keep my Windows and also can install Ubuntu?
[11:20] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, install pavucintrol if it's not already installed
[11:21] <dr_willis> Tanvir:  first thing with a new wundows box.. make a dvd revovery disk set useing the tools the hw makers put on the pc.. just in case.. ;)
[11:21] <ubuntuaddicted> already installed
[11:21] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, pavucontrol
[11:21] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, already installed
[11:21] <robbie> xhost +SI:localuser:root even says 'xhost:  unable to open display ":0"'
[11:21] <robbie> thats in sudo -i
[11:21] <dr_willis> Tanvir:  personally i then get a 2nd hard drive  to use for my dual booting. If its a laptop i put the original hd from the laptop up safe somewhere for when i sale the laptop  a few years later. ;)
[11:22] <Jake--> I'm running mysql server on ubuntu and its bound to <IP_ADDRESS> ( I realize this might not be the correct arena for this question, but you linuxguys are pretty proficient in databases )
[11:22] <Jake--> the question is, how do I get it to bind to my public address?
[11:22] <Jake--> if I change my.cnf conf to "bind-address xx.xx.xx.xx", and use netstat to see what it actually listens to, its <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:22] <Tanvir> dr_jesus_, I created a recovery disk using Dell Smart Backup tool. Would that be enough to boot Windows next time after installing Ubuntu for a dual boot?
[11:22] <dr_willis> robbie:  have the user run xhost + whatever   perhaps? not root?
[11:22] <Tanvir> dr_willis, *
[11:22] <Tanvir> sorry.
[11:22] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, is skip-networking active?
[11:22] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, you have to comment out the skip-networking directive
[11:22] <Jake--> TheLordOfTime, that I have to check
[11:23] <TheLordOfTime> feel free to.
[11:23] <dr_willis> Tanvir:  you mean to reinstall windows? it should. but i tend to always test those disks out.  some times they do annoying things when they restore your system
[11:23] <TheLordOfTime> that's likely the issue
[11:23] <dr_willis> Tanvir:  normaly ubuntu install should set up dual booting.
[11:23] <robbie> dr_willis: that was it :) thanks
[11:23] <Jake--> TheLordOfTime skip-external-locking, might that be the setting?
[11:23] <Tanvir> dr_willis, how can I check? By doing a recovery for testing?
[11:23] <robbie> dr_willis: crazy I have to do that
[11:23] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, nope, skip-networking
[11:24] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, skip-network or similar (it'll say network somewhere) is how they do it, last i checked the package anyways
[11:25] <robbie> how can I see what gfx modes are available in grub without actually going into grub?
[11:25] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, oop one moment
[11:25] <TheLordOfTime> i may have lied
[11:25] <TheLordOfTime> *checks*
[11:25] <onefang> G'day.
[11:25] <dr_willis> Tanvir:  my normal practice with a 'new' laptop is  i always buy a 2nd hard drive for it. (a ssd these days) then i make the recovery set. swap out the hd. Keep the original SAFE. then try the restore set to be sure it works.. then put linux onit.
[11:25] <Jake--> TheLordOfTime oh I found it now, appears that in my version of mysql the skip-networking is off by default and replaced to "listen only on localhost", but I believe "bind-address = <IP_ADDRESS>" negates it, correct?
[11:25] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, that should be the case, did you restart MySQL after changing the bind-address ?
[11:26] <Jake--> I did
[11:26] <TheLordOfTime> and no dice?
[11:27] <Jake--> no dice, nope
[11:27] <jrib> Jake--: you did restart mysql, right?
[11:27] <TheLordOfTime> jrib, i just asked him that
[11:28] <Tanvir> dr_willis, my problem is I cannot do that in an external HD, I do it in DVDs.
[11:28] <Jake--> Why I'm doing this is so I could connect to my DB from my desktop, instead of having to connect to the server first, and from there to localhost
[11:28] <Tanvir> dr_willis, I just made the recovery disk in 2 DVDs.
[11:28] <mN-> how do I get my nicklist back in quassel irc :D i just removed it by mouse and it vanished!
[11:28] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, you just want to be able to remotely access your MySQL from your local network?
[11:28] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, or are you trying to access it from some other location?
[11:29] <onefang> I've just updated to 12.04, and there's a couple of annoyances I have not been able to figure out.  One is that pppd starts up twice on boot. The first one connects fine, the second one fails to connect (likely coz the first one is already connected) then spams my log files once per minute telling me it has failed again.  I can't find where it starts them up.
[11:29] <Jake--> From other location, the server is located in another country
[11:29] <onefang> The second problem is that xmms2 no longer displays song name and artist from Internet radio streams.
[11:30] <hetkat> hi, im trying to run a poker server+client locally. I did "sudo apt-get install python-poker-network" then "sudo apt-get install poker2d" then "poker2d". I get error: "ImportError: No module named _pokerinterface2_7" any ideas?
[11:30] <onefang> Neither is major, I can manually kill the second pppd, and I guess I can live without song titles.  Just very annoying.  lol
[11:31] <dr_willis> !info poker2d
[11:31] <dr_willis> hetkat:  where did poker2d and the server come from?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> hetkat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/poker-network/+bug/755485
[11:31] <Jake--> TheLordOfTime I'm stopping the service now, to see if it actually goes down
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> hetkat: have you seen that bug?
[11:32] <hetkat> they came from the standard PPAs
[11:32] <dr_willis> err.. ppas are not 'standard' ;)
[11:32] <dr_willis> !info python-poker-network
[11:32] <dr_willis> !find poker2d
[11:32] <hetkat> ActionParsnip: yes - but no solution. wondered if any of you guys might be able to help
[11:32] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, maybe the wrong or no driver is installed , cat /proc/asound/modules
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> hetkat: I suggest you add to the bug to state its still happening
[11:33] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, 0 snd_hda_intel
[11:33] <hetkat> ActionParsnip: ok thx
[11:33] <Jake--> TheLordOfTime, Solution found, turns out the mysql stopscript didn't do its job.         now its bound to my public address, thanks for your effort in finding this solution with me.
[11:33] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, yep.
[11:33] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, and 1 snd_mpu401
[11:34] <desu> j
[11:34] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, ok , what chip does alsamixer show ?
[11:34] <blackshirt> hello
[11:35] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, VT82xx [HDA VIA VT82xx]
[11:35] <bencc1> is there something like tabs in unity for monitoring several windows of the same app like several terminals and gedit instances? (not app tabs)
[11:35] <onefang> I should have mentioned I don't use NetworkManager.  So, anyone know why pppd might start up twice, or even where to poke looking for what system actually starts them up?
[11:36] <blackshirt> good night
[11:36] <vinto> yo
[11:36] <blackshirt> onefang, what are you using to connect ?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> bencc1: unity will only show the app window itsef, the tabs aren't separated when you alt-tab etc
[11:38] <bencc1> ActionParsnip: so I'll stick with gnome session fallback. thanks
[11:38] <onefang> blackshirt: I just put the ppp details in the proper place in /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/ppp and something at boot time picks that up and starts pppd twice.
[11:38] <savio> !home
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> bencc1: that doesn't dictate the WM
[11:39] <bencc1> ActionParsnip: WN?
[11:39] <bencc1> WM?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> bencc1: window manager
[11:39] <bencc1> ActionParsnip:  unity is just too slow for me
[11:39] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, the default intel hda driver looks correct for the that chip, so if you remove pulseaudio temporarily and make sure we have sound thru alsa alone, run  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[11:39] <bencc1> ActionParsnip: I'm running inside vbox and it's unusable
[11:39] <onefang> WM = Window Manager.
[11:40] <ngt> hi, i am using samsung ml1660 printer, ubuntu detect my printer but i am unable to print anything.
[11:40] <koinandable> so, i find it ridiculous that i have to ask this question but is there a working way to play an audio cd with ubuntu? rhythmbox plays it with totally distorted sound, amarok plays mp3 from hdd but not the cd tracks in the same playlist and qmmp doesnt find tracks when i try to open /media/cdrom. this is so shitty i dont have words for it. seems like ubuntu developers are workinghard to make everything worse than it was so
[11:40] <koinandable> me time ago?!
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> bencc1: ahhh if its 12.10 then it will be. I'd use something light like Xubuntu or Lubuntu to give a snappier OS
[11:40] <blackshirt> bencc1, you can change your desktop if you not like unity
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> koinandable: tried VLC?
[11:41] <koinandable> not yet ... trying
[11:41] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, it has to be some config file somewhere telling it to try to active surround5.1
[11:41] <dr_willis> koinandable:  you would play /dev/cdrom not /media/cdrom   you dont mount audio cds
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> koinandable: media -> open disk (Shortcut CTRL+D)
[11:41] <bencc1> blackshirt: yes, I'll use gnome-session-fallback which looks like old ubuntu
[11:41] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, and front:0
[11:41] <dr_willis> koinandable:  and ive had some players give me staticky or other sound issues with the default sound output. i had to switch them to use alsa in their settings.
[11:42] <blackshirt> bencc1 unity relies on a lot of compiz efects, i think ...
[11:43] <demez> hi
[11:43] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, do you have an ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.cong file ?
[11:43] <demez> any good theme for gnome 3?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: a few
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> demez: depends on taste
[11:44] <savio> is there any way so i can move my /home to another partition without formatting ubuntu
[11:44] <demez> compiz doesn't work with gnome3 right?
[11:44] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, no
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> demez: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/5-nice-gnome-34-themes-ubuntu-ppa.html
[11:44] <brian6685> Ive got Ubuntu 12.10 installed, and i updated my win7 installation to windows 8, and it took over the grub bootloader to use the windows one. How can I get back into Ubuntu and/or add it to my boot options? Thanks
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> demez: no, compiz is the default WM for Gnome3 in Ubuntu now
[11:45] <blackshirt> compiz was pretty buggy
[11:45] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, /etc/asound.conf
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> brian6685: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[11:45] <hetkat> hi, I want to report a bug I am experiencing (on launchpad). The same bug has already been reported for a previous release of ubuntu. Do I need to add a new bug or just mark the old bug as effecting me?
[11:45] <dr_willis> gnome-shell uses mutter i belive. unity uses compiz
[11:45] <onefang> brian6685: Always best to install Windows first so it wont do that.  Try booting off a Ubuntu CD and using the rescue, or just reinstall it.
[11:45] <robbie> hey, I have no sound -- nothing to select in output from sound in system settings
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> hetkat: I'd update the standing bug
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> robbie: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[11:46] <hetkat> ActionParsnip:  how do I add the info that it effects quantal?
[11:46] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, no
[11:46] <brian6685> ActionParsnip, onefang: thanks
[11:46] <dr_willis> brian6685:  live cd and boot-repair tool perhaps ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> just write in the box at the bottom what you know
[11:46] <hetkat> k
[11:46] <robbie> ActionParsnip: do you need all that or just the aplay -l and lspci |grep Audio first?
[11:47] <demez> okay thanks for the responses :)
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> hetkat: you may want to use:  apt-cache policy packagename     to show version numbers and source of package etc
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> robbie: run the command as one and select to upload, it will make a URL. What is it please
[11:47] <robbie> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=215b755d9774747105aaf33f3d238ffcd0dbeaa6
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> robbie: if you run the 'sounds' app in dash, is the right device set for output?
[11:48] <robbie> ActionParsnip: there are no devices listed there
[11:48] <robbie> zero, none
[11:48] <robbie> not a one
[11:48] <hetkat> ActionParsnip: done. thx
[11:49] <BluesKaj> ubunu  my suggestion is to remove pulseaudio so we make sure alsa is working , most setups can run without pulseaudio for music etc that's on the HDD , for web audio most pcs require pulse
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> robbie: if you close the sound app and run:  killall pulseaudio      then wait a little while, do you see devices listed?
[11:49] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted,^
[11:49] <robbie> ActionParsnip: if you read that file I sent you'll see that pulseaudio doesnt load at boot
[11:50] <robbie> ActionParsnip: Im sorry -- its just, that is exactly what I did before coming here
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> if you run:  ps -ef | grep pulse      is it running?
[11:50] <robbie> ActionParsnip: and if I service start it, it says it is running from service but pulse volume control cant connect to it
[11:51] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, sorry, gotta go. thanks for trying to help
[11:51] <robbie> ActionParsnip: sudo service pulseaudio status is not running
[11:51] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, did you see my last post ..keep it in mind
[11:52] <robbie> see the section "!!Sound Servers on this system" -- its installed its just not running
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> robbie: have you tried:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --reinstall install pulseaudio
[11:53] <robbie> ActionParsnip: no I havent .. let me try not getting the dev version and just forcing the reinstall though
[11:53] <robbie> maybe that is it
[11:53] <ngt> hi, i am using samsung ml1660 printer, ubuntu detect my printer but i am unable to print anything.
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> robbie: seems quantal has a newer version anyhoo, but reinstalling the package may help
[11:54] <robbie> I stll get "establishing connection to PulseAudio" from the pulseaudio volume control :S
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> ngt: did you use the unified driver from the samsung site?
[11:55] <danny_> Trying to 'calibrate' my monitor using gnome color manager, but it's greyed out. I downloaded icc-profiles, and all i can do is select them, and even that has no effect. How can I calibrate my monitor?
[11:55] <koinandable> ok, tried to play the cd with vlc -> plays with distorted sound, switched to ALSA, still distorted, yesterday i ripped an audio cd bc of this mess and could play the ripped tracks without issues ... on one cd the fiirst track is distorted, the others can be played, it's a new drive and original audio cd's. what can i try now?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> robbie: my sound troubleshooting isn't great to be honest, I can do basic stuff but I've never had a sound issue personally so all I can do is search the web. Maybe others can advise
[11:56] <robbie> ActionParsnip: this is because I had to upgrade my system from the DVD and now a couple issues remain
[11:56] <robbie> ActionParsnip: almost everyhting else Ive worked out
[11:56] <robbie> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> robbie: I try. The alsa URL you have is handy, hold onto it
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> ngt: found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1591873
[11:58] <wahidno> hi
[11:58] <wahidno> h r u
[11:59] <searching> can Openbox freeze ubuntu desktop?
[12:01] <ngt> ActionParsnip:  yup i have already install the samsung unified driver
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> searching: i guess so
[12:01] <_cronus_> danny_, i think that in order to calibrate your monitor (create it's icc profile) you need a hardware device.
[12:02] <searching> if I remove OpenBox will run fine?
[12:02] <dr_willis> it would be weird that openbox would freeze the whole OS.
[12:03] <searching> yes freeze all
[12:03] <Aleksander> Okay, bumblebee seems to be working
[12:03] <Aleksander> but can you please tell me which package is responsible for date applet in Unity?
[12:04] <Aleksander> I've removed evolution, which was causing problems, and now there's no time applet
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> !info indicator-datetime | Aleksander
[12:04] <Aleksander> ActionParsnip, thank you
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: method: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1328960/
[12:06] <RESIST> hello
[12:06] <handuel> 'ello
[12:06] <RESIST> my nvidia drivers are fucked
[12:06] <RESIST> how do i remove them
[12:06] <RESIST> cleanly
[12:06] <FloodBot1> RESIST: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:06] <handuel> what method did you use to install?
[12:06] <dr_willis> how did you install them?
[12:06] <RESIST> ubuntu
[12:06] <RESIST> alerted me to the unsupported
[12:06] <RESIST> thing
[12:07] <handuel> Ah that means additional drivers
[12:07] <RESIST> yea that
[12:07] <RESIST> and it ruined everything
[12:07] <RESIST> now I just want to go back to regular ubuntuland
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> RESIST: sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep nvidia | awk {'print $2'} | grep -v nvidia-common`
[12:07]  * RESIST crosses fingers
[12:08] <mN-> gj ActionParsnip
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> mN-: i have yellow belt bashfu
[12:08] <mN-> :D
[12:08] <handuel> I've got slight nvidia issues as well, I used apt-get install nvidia-current-updates, and although it has sped up my fps in openGL games, the desktop is now quite jerky, especially when using workspace switcher, anyone no y
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> and for some reason nvidia-common is a dep of the ubuntu-desktop package, weird
[12:11] <RESIST> ok
[12:11] <RESIST> these are the packages that showed up in synpatic
[12:11] <Aleksander> thank you and read you
[12:11] <RESIST> hopefully this shit works
[12:11] <RESIST> so i can go to sleep
[12:11] <RESIST> it's 5am here
[12:11] <FloodBot1> RESIST: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:11] <RESIST> thank you, FloodBot1
[12:13] <handuel> Does anyone have any idea why nvidia-common-updates would slow down the desktop, but speed up opengl games
[12:15] <mN-> handuel: nvidia-settings -q RefreshRate
[12:15] <almatrix> how i can enable the update manager?
[12:15] <jrib> almatrix: enable it to do what?
[12:16] <handuel> mN-: 60.00 which is the recommended for my monitor
[12:16] <almatrix>  i want to update my linux to 11.10 but there is a problem i have to enable update how i can do that?
[12:17] <almatrix> update my version
[12:17] <jrib> !upgrade > almatrix
[12:17] <almatrix> yup
[12:19] <mN-> handuel:  do u have sync to VBlank in nvidia open gl settings?
[12:19] <handuel> mN-: yes
[12:21] <mN-> handuel: take it off and see if its less jerky :D
[12:21] <handuel> mN-: ok, trying that no
[12:21] <handuel> *now
[12:21] <almatrix> hi guys my current version is 11.4 how i can upgrade it to 12.10 by the way i have 12.10 version iso on my hdd
[12:21] <onefang> More info on my xmms2 not showing song titles problem - Works fine on dogglounge, but not on any of the soma.fm stations.  It worked fine on Ubuntu 10.04 which I just updated from.
[12:22] <almatrix> hi guys my current version is 11.4 how i can upgrade it to 12.10 by the way i have 12.10 version iso on my hdd mr. dr_willis
[12:23] <handuel> almatrix: go into update manager click settings, switch to the update tabs, and under notify me of new ubuntu versions select any version
[12:23] <cfhowlett> almatrix: best bet is to clean install.
[12:23] <handuel> allow update manager to reload then the new release should be at the top :)
[12:23] <handuel> mN-: it doesn't make a difference :(
[12:23] <cfhowlett> almatrix: if you won't do that, you have to go 11.10, 12.04 then 12.10.
[12:23] <cfhowlett> almatrix: NO DIRECT UPGRADE TO 12.10 from 11.04
[12:24] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[12:24] <almatrix> aha okay
[12:24] <handuel> almatrix: sorry
[12:25] <robbie> how can I set pulseaudio to start at boot?
[12:25] <mN-> handuel: dunno why it's jerky then if it works on games. Maybe you have too many processes open == low ram
[12:25] <handuel> almatrix: I got my info incorrect, I thought you wanted to get to 12.04
[12:25] <handuel> mN-: never mind, thanks anway
[12:25] <handuel> mN-: intrestingly though, it only goes jerky once I open a window
[12:26] <RESIST> AHHHHHHH
[12:26] <handuel> RESIST: has it worked :D
[12:26] <RESIST> how do I generate a default xorg.conf
[12:26] <RESIST> handuel: nooo
[12:26] <handuel> sudo Xorg -configure
[12:26] <RESIST> no working and booting into recovery console took 5 attempts
[12:27] <onefang> Damn, works fine in rhythmbox, just not in xmms2.
[12:27] <handuel> RESIST: oh god :(, nvidia drivers are always a hassle
[12:27] <RESIST> handuel: that just gave me help list
[12:27] <RESIST> ????
[12:27] <handuel> RESIST try --configure
[12:28] <RESIST> same thing
[12:28] <RESIST> ?
[12:28] <RESIST> how can I restart X?
[12:28] <RESIST> /etc/gdm or whateve
[12:28] <RESIST> at least im at 1024x resoluton
[12:29] <RESIST> or unity
[12:29] <robbie> how is pulseaudio set to start at boot?
[12:29] <Gangnam_sty1e> good evening
[12:29] <RESIST> handuel: ?
[12:29] <Gangnam_sty1e> i got a problem in module darmok
[12:29] <philinux> RESIST: do want to restart unity
[12:30] <handuel> RESIST: try these to fix drivers
[12:30] <handuel> sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:amd64 libgl1-mesa-dri:amd64
[12:30] <handuel> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:30] <handuel> sudo reboot
[12:30] <RESIST> okay
[12:30] <Gangnam_sty1e> i tried to start tanagra, but had an error in module darmok
[12:30] <RESIST> i cant copy paste though
[12:30] <RESIST> fuck
[12:31] <handuel> RESIST: lol, just copy it slowly and take your time, I have to go and will be back in half an hour
[12:32] <demez> hm, I've extracted "Nord" theme package to ~/.themes and now I'm trying to load it with gnome tweak tool and won't work, isn't it compatible with Gnomre 3?
[12:33] <fabrydrunk> hi guys, I've just installed Ubuntu and I'm not very good. I'd like some help with repository. I typed sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa
[12:33] <fabrydrunk> but I received an error about gpg key not found or something similar
[12:35] <fabrydrunk> is there anybody that can help me? please I don't know what to do, I've just installed ubuntu
[12:35] <ale55andro> 0
[12:35] <dr_willis> fabrydrunk:  why are you wanting to use that ppa?
[12:36] <dr_willis> firefox should be up to date in the normal repos
[12:36] <fabrydrunk> because I wanted to update my repository. I've installed firefox and it was just version 6
[12:36] <fabrydrunk> while the latest version is 16
[12:36] <philinux> fabrydrunk: which version of ubuntu did u install ?
[12:37] <philinux> firefox is installed by default anyway
[12:37] <dr_willis> !info firefox
[12:37] <fabrydrunk> 11.10
[12:37] <fabrydrunk> I know, but it wasn't the latest version
[12:37] <fabrydrunk> it was version 7 (not 6, sorry)
[12:37] <xwalk> Is there a way to find the hex value of a color you're using in xterm? I'm trying to get the color scheme from my xterm to match my guake terminal.
[12:38]  * onefang gives up and finds something more fun to do.  lol
[12:38] <dr_willis> fabrydrunk:  you mean 11.10 and not 12.10? 12.10 just came out ..
[12:38] <fabrydrunk> yeah I mean 11.10
[12:38] <dr_willis> !11.10
[12:39] <dr_willis> why would you be using 11.10?
[12:39] <fabrydrunk> is it necessary to pass to 12.10 to have the latest firefox?
[12:39] <chrislamp> hello geeks!!
[12:40] <dr_willis> be a lot easier to stay updated if you used 12.10 or 12.04
[12:40] <dr_willis> 11.10 will be EOL in april of 2013 i belive.
[12:40] <chrislamp> what is the different between LTS 12.04.1 and 12.04 ?
[12:40] <dr_willis> .1 has updates included in the iso
[12:41] <dr_willis> so when in doubt get the .1 or .2 or whatever
[12:41] <philinux> dr_willis: package info from oneiric says (firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) [security]
[12:41] <philinux> maybe he just needs to update the system
[12:41] <dr_willis> philinux:  or perhaps thats from the security repo. not the ppa hes trying to use. :) i dont keep up with the old releases.
[12:42] <dr_willis> for a new install.. i dont see the point in using 11.10 at all.
[12:42] <chrislamp> thanks willis!!
[12:43] <fabrydrunk> ok I'll accept your suggest to upgrade to 12.04
[12:43] <chrislamp> i want to install 12.04 but i wonder if has the new features  of 12.10
[12:43] <fabrydrunk> I hope to find more recent packages
[12:43] <dr_willis> or 12.10 fabrydrunk  if 'recent' is imporntant to you
[12:44] <dr_willis> 12.10 here has  16.0.2  for firefox from its about box...
[12:44] <fabrydrunk> mmm I just need recent packages, not recent OS
[12:44] <dr_willis> if the system is new. id say go with a clean install.
[12:45] <dr_willis> fabrydrunk:  ubuntu dosent really work that way.. it follows a 6mo release cycle where everything gets updated then..
[12:45] <dr_willis> in btween releaes theres just a few updates to package versions. but i think firefox is one of the main exceptions that trys to stay updated
[12:45] <gordonjcp> fabrydrunk: how recent is recent?
[12:45] <fabrydrunk> and what about lts versions? 12.04 is an lts. it should be supported for more months
[12:46] <dr_willis> upgradeing from 11.x to whatever will most likely take longer then a clean install would.
[12:46] <dr_willis> !lts
[12:46] <dr_willis> if lts is imporntant to you (its not to me) then go with 12.04
[12:46] <fabrydrunk> For me "recent" means having the latest version of each package
[12:46] <HOLYF> fucking hell
[12:47] <IdleOne> !language | HOLYF
[12:47] <HOLYF> idle go back idle
[12:47] <dr_willis> fabrydrunk:  for EVERY thing you mean.. if so then ubuntu may not be for you.
[12:47] <gordonjcp> oopsie
[12:47] <HOLYF> idiot
[12:47] <HOLYF> gordonjcp:
[12:47] <tsuru``> I am trying to use apt-cacher-ng on quantal but I get errors/ warnings about duplicate sources every time I run apt-get update
[12:47] <gordonjcp> haha, a monkey would have learned sooner
[12:47] <dr_willis> Not everything gets updated constantly in ubuntu. thats why we have ppa's and backports.
[12:48] <tsuru``> anyone know a solution?
[12:48] <dr_willis> i think the browser (firefox) and a few other packages are the main exceptions - they try to stay updated.
[12:48] <philinux> fabrydrunk: try using update manager and see if firefox gets updated
[12:48] <gordonjcp> tsuru``: sounds like your sources.list has something a bit wrong with it
[12:48] <philinux> you can still have a play with 11.10
[12:48] <gordonjcp> tsuru``: can you pastebin the output?
[12:49] <tsuru``> gordonjcp: yeah I've tried looking but what I've narrowed it down to is in /var/lib/apt/lists/ I was told to delete *Packages and *Sources in the apt-cacher-ng install... I did... but they keep coming back.
[12:49] <fabrydrunk> dr_willis in fact I'm just helping a friend who installed ubuntu yesterday. I left Ubuntu a year ago and passed to Archlinux, it's my favourite distro, and I don't have problems like these
[12:49] <tsuru``> gordonjcp: yeah lemme see about the pastebin
[12:49] <fabrydrunk> anyway ubuntu was my first Linux distro and I still love it
[12:49] <dr_willis> fabrydrunk:  ubuntu is not a rolling release disrto. arch basically is.. its a core differance.
[12:51] <fabrydrunk> dr_willis but i didn't know that in ubuntu "more recent distro version" means "more recent packages version". I thought that repositories were the same for each version, was I wrong?
[12:51] <dr_willis> fabrydrunk:  things only get updated at each new release basically.
[12:52] <dr_willis> every 6 mo. new release. with all packages updated..
[12:52] <rainbowwarrior2> hi, what is the package name for unistd please as while trying to compile my c++ program it says no such file or directory ? (i am using Ubuntu 12.10 )
[12:53] <screwsss> hey everyone
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> is there a trigger for supported wifi adapters on ubuntu?
[12:53] <screwsss> if a driver is taking too long to instal does that mean my hardware is old
[12:54] <gordonjcp> screwsss: not necessarily, but most things shouldn't need additional drivers
[12:54] <tsuru``> gordonjcp: http://pastebin.com/pbuRBRyU
[12:54] <fabrydrunk> oh I see. But, if each new release brings new updates....why do lts versions exist? Aren't they something like "you won't have new updates for longer period"?
[12:54] <dr_willis> security updates are the key. not everything gets updated to the latest version
[12:55] <screwsss> not even display-?
[12:55] <screwsss> why do u say that. is there a generic display driver in there
[12:55] <gael> join #linuxcnc
[12:56] <fabrydrunk> I see. Everything is clear now :)
[12:59] <dr_willis> screwsss:  theres generic video drivers, then theres the open sourced drivers for many chipsets.
[13:00] <handuel> RESIST: Are you still here, did the commands I gave you work?
[13:00] <dr_willis> so my nvidia card could use the Nvidia drivers, or the OPEN sourced noveau drivers. or if all else fails the vga drivers.
[13:00] <dr_willis> bbl.
[13:01] <benste> can anybody confirm my bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1072074 or even better help me to get this resolved ?
[13:01] <handuel> Ok, he's gone, does anyone know if someone called RESIST, got there problems sorted out
[13:01] <miistx> un saluto a tutti
[13:01] <cfhowlett> !it|miistx:
[13:04] <emanuhell> h
[13:05] <emanuhell> ubuntu merda
[13:05] <emanuhell> windows firever
[13:06] <palasso> fabrydrunk you should have an up to date firefox 16.0.2 just by running update manager in 11.10 according to this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/firefox
[13:08] <robbie> when I log in, and for no other users, compiz fails to load and I have to ctl+alt+del ..andfter that it starts working again
[13:09] <YouDreamOfJeanie> how do I find out what version of Ubuntu is running - I have a load of systems out there, some on 10.4, some on 12.4 and some between, how do I discover which I am running ona given machine - ideally at command line?
[13:10] <adaminsull> tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[13:10] <philinux> robbie: when it happens open a terminal and use setsid unity see if that helps
[13:10] <adaminsull> Any idea?
[13:10] <robbie> philinux will I only need to do that once ?
[13:10] <utente> sudo apt-get install xchat
[13:10] <philinux> robbie: you may need to install dconf-tools first
[13:10] <adaminsull> anyone?
[13:11] <philinux> robbie not sure whats going wrong at the moment
[13:12] <utente> how i can download file?
[13:12] <philinux> robbie is this on 12.10 ubuntu
[13:12] <utente> please help me
[13:12] <robbie> philinux: yes but I had to reinstall it because of stupid admin error (thats me btw)
[13:12] <sanguo0023> hello,why i can't visit google.?I use ubuntu 12.04,firefox(startpage for ubuntu)
[13:12] <dr_willis> YouDreamOfJeanie:  lsb_release -a    should show all info on each box
[13:13] <YouDreamOfJeanie> ty dr_willis
[13:13] <robbie> now on reinstall most things work but this is about the last of the errors checklist that I have to fix
[13:13] <dr_willis> sanguo0023:  google.com is working here. could be a local issue. can you ping google.com ?
[13:13] <robbie> philinux: I get errors when I do tht command
[13:13] <philinux> robbie: see this. I wouldn't go the ppa route though thats overkill. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[13:14] <robbie> philinux: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1329080/ -- note the errors for nux.gestures_subscription and org.ayama.bamf
[13:15] <robbie> philinux: hmm thanks
[13:15] <robbie> Ill see about that
[13:15] <philinux> robbie: a unity and compiz reset might do the trick
[13:15] <sanguo0023> Yes,I can ping it.But i can't visit it by firefox.
[13:16] <dr_willis> test in a differnt browser.. whats the exact message when you try it in ff?
[13:16] <dr_willis> what ip does ping show for google.com>
[13:16] <robbie> philinux: well I still get those errors on start but I think now it does not crash :) thanks phil
[13:17] <utente> aiuto
[13:17] <utente> aiuto
[13:17] <utente> list
[13:18] <philinux> robbie good, see how it goes. dont mess with compizconfig-settings-manager you can bork unity
[13:18] <philinux> apart from minor stuff like wobbly windows etc
[13:19] <dr_willis> eye candy can cause ocular cavaties. ;)
[13:19] <philinux> indeed
[13:20] <keshav> hello everyone
[13:20] <cfhowlett> keshav: greetings
[13:21] <keshav> hi i am ubuntu user and i am getting some problems in it
[13:21] <rsv> OKAY, just couple of hours back i had re-installed my ubuntu which overwrote my entire home directory
[13:21] <rsv> Now, i went and bought myself a 1TB USB Drive, I want to know what is the best way of using this up!
[13:21] <dr_willis> normally you keep /home/ on its own partition.
[13:22] <Hrki> hi, am on 11.10, i want update to 12.04 LTS but nothing shows in update manager
[13:22] <Hrki> how to update ?
[13:22] <dr_willis> so mount the external usb to /home/ if you wanted to.  but that may be a little slow.
[13:22] <keshav> hi am am on 12.04 lts and i face a problem that it hangs everytime
[13:22] <rsv> dr_willis: you want me to keep home in its own partition, how do i do it while installing ubuntu
[13:23] <rusfus_> hi
[13:23] <dr_willis> rsv:  the installer disk layout tool lets you define that. or you can set it up afterwards
[13:23] <rusfus_> help me!!! pls
[13:23] <gordonjcp> !help | rusfus_
[13:23] <dr_willis> rusfus_:  with ?
[13:24] <rusfus_> i have a small problem with xubuntu
[13:25] <keshav> is any one there
[13:25] <keshav> is any one there
[13:25] <dr_willis> 'hangs everytime' is vague... details would be helpfll.
[13:25] <rusfus_> when l watch a video from both the tube from a mediaplayer after 10 minutes, i will darken the screen
[13:25] <gordonjcp> !ask | keshav
[13:25] <gordonjcp> !help | keshav
[13:25] <rusfus_> come can l eliminate it??
[13:26] <philinux> Hrki: open a terminal and use update-manager -d
[13:26] <gordonjcp> rusfus_: sounds like power management is kicking in.  Is this on a laptop?
[13:26] <zorp> so
[13:26] <philinux> Hrki: it will take much longer than a clean install too
[13:26] <keshav> i normally boot up ubuntu and after an hour laptop sounds havily and stop responding anything from mouse to keyboard
[13:28] <dr_willis> rusfus_:  sounds like the screen saver is kicking in. disable it perhaps?
[13:28] <handuel> rufus_ I think before you watch a video running this in terminal: killall gnome-screensaver might kill the screensaver process
[13:28] <rusfus_> gordonjcp i've already tried, however,andnot on a desktop
[13:28] <keshav> i think i will have to reinstall ubuntu or will it be cured without it as i have shut down my laptop several time directly from power switch
[13:28] <JasonC_> can you add a windows 7 admin account via ubuntu?
[13:28] <handuel> JaonC_: no
[13:29] <handuel> JasonC_: or at least not easily
[13:29] <dr_willis> JasonC_:  ive seen some specilized reocvery cds (not ubuntu) that let you try to fix things in windows.
[13:29] <JasonC_> thanks for the quick responses!
[13:29] <gms> rusfus_ disable dim/blanking in settings->screen. keshav disable power managment options altogether. prolly do a top and watch it to see if any processes are spiraling out of control.
[13:29] <rusfus_> dr_willis _: already tried
[13:30] <gms> opps sorry window was scrolled
[13:30] <unrar> hi
[13:30] <rusfus_> gms_:  i try
[13:31] <rsv> I have 1TB usb drive should i partition it
[13:31] <dr_willis> rsv:  if you want. but i rarely do.
[13:31] <JasonC_> handuel: do you know if i could enable the hidden admin account through ubuntu?
[13:32] <rsv> it is partioned it in NTFS/exFAT this is a brand new disk, which i bought just to copy the contents of photorec
[13:32] <rsv> Also, is ddrescue more efficient or photorec
[13:32] <handuel> JasonC_: As far as I know you can't change many windows settings from ubuntu, you can acsess the files, but thats about it, you'd have to use windows safe mode
[13:32] <JasonC_> also, how do i correctly reply by making users usernames go red :P
[13:32] <dr_willis> rsv:  if its going to be used as a shared data disk for linux/wondows - keep it ntfs.
[13:32] <dr_willis> !tab | JasonC_
[13:32] <Hrki> philinux: i try, but still no new version showed up
[13:32] <rsv> okay!
[13:33] <gms> linux rescuecd has ntfs and registry editing support. try that
[13:33] <rsv> thank you very much
[13:33] <Gangnam_sty1e> i have a 4 tb drive i want to add 8 of them with mdadm
[13:33] <JasonC_> handuel: is this right? :P
[13:34] <JasonC_> handuel: is this right? :P
[13:35] <philinux> Hrki: open update manager and look under settings then at the bottom the drop down for notify of new release
[13:35] <Gangnam_sty1e> ohio
[13:36] <deepen099> hello
[13:36] <zizi_> Hie
[13:36] <hemejo> ./iwantnoaibots
[13:37] <zizi_> i want a simple application for remote controll like teamviewer any suggestions?
[13:37] <JasonC_> sorry for all the questions but maybe one day i may be the one helping others :P but how do i connect to a domain internet via wi-fi on ubuntu? I have likewise-open installed but that doesnt seem to work
[13:37] <BluesKaj> zizi_, teamviewer has a linux version
[13:37] <zizi_> Yeah but i dont like it
[13:38] <zizi_> it depends on wine
[13:38] <tsuru``> has anyone had success with apt-cacher-ng on quantal? I'm having issue with /var/cache/apt/lists being regenerated which gives me duplicate sources errors
[13:38] <rusfus_> gms_: i'm sorry what does "proly do a top and watch it to see if any processes are spiraling out of control"
[13:39] <Mitchell92> Hi... anyone able to give me a quick overview of what's new in 12.10?
[13:39] <gustav__> Mitchell92: Stuff not working.
[13:39] <food> gustav__, lol
[13:39] <zizi_> so we havent?
[13:40] <gms> JasonC_ network settings has options for wifi if you dont have a network icon in status pannel its in settings.
[13:40] <JasonC_> Ill revise, how do i connect to a domain internet on ubuntu, it's my works internet, you have to put your username and password, which goes like this e.g. domainname\username and then password on windows. I have like-wise open installed but that doesnt seem to help
[13:40] <gms> rusfus_ open a terminal. type "top" without the quotes
[13:41] <gms> all pretty strait forward from their just watch your process list to see if one of them starts collecting virtual/swap memory or abnormal cpu usage
[13:42] <kinema> hi, I installed ubuntu 11.04 on a 1gb USB stick, and found out now that the installation requirement is a 2gb+ stick. is it possible that ubuntu wasn't correctly installed? no errors showed up, but the system is slow sometimes. could it be the faulty installation or should I look for other reasons?
[13:42] <rusfus_> gms_: sorry, here i am
[13:42] <Eagleman> How do i copy one line of text from a text file to the clipboard and paste it somewhere when on the console?
[13:43] <gms> kinema if you are booting only from usb stick the system will be slow as it juggles everythinbg around in memory.
[13:43] <kinema> gms: ah sorry, I meant I installed FROM a 1gb usb stick onto my disk
[13:44] <gms> Eagleman right click -paste in your terminal from desktop
[13:44] <morfeo_81> hi there
[13:44] <BluesKaj> zizi_, I don't see any mention of wine being required here , http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[13:45] <morfeo_81> someone can help on comand paste..I'm not able to join column files
[13:45] <Hrki> philinux: thx, when i changed show only lts to show all, it displays 12.04.1 LTS , strange
[13:45] <screwsss> dr_willis: seems that ubuntu was running fine once i installed it
[13:46] <Jisawesome2> how do I make a command run on startup in ubuntu server
[13:46] <gms> add it to /etc/init.d/
[13:46] <gms> then link to it
[13:46] <Jisawesome2> Link?
[13:46] <rusfus_> gms_: what should i look on the terminal
[13:47] <gms> on newer ubuntu there is a slight change. aslo you can make a start script instead of init.d
[13:47] <screwsss> but the computer has a nvidia card
[13:47] <skysurfer39> hi guys, Just installed 12.04 on my imac but the fans are fast is there a way to slow them down ?
[13:47] <Jisawesome2> So I just go into the file, and put the command
[13:48] <gms> sensors-detect
[13:48] <gms> and then you can configure fan speed. read up on sensors
[13:48] <Hrki> is there any way to turnoff unity on 12.04?
[13:48] <skysurfer39> thanks ill give it ago
[13:49] <gms> Hrki
[13:50] <skysurfer39> has enyone istalled ubuntu on an imac ?
[13:50] <gms> on the login screen have a look at the types of interfaces. you may need to install the old interface first i dont have 12 atm so i dunno if the original interface is shipped
[13:50] <gms> skysurfer39 sensors-detect didnt work for you?
[13:51] <gms> ie sudo sensors-detect
[13:51] <ztane> anyone know how to get rid of the
[13:51] <gms> follow instructions
[13:51] <skysurfer39> only on re-boot
[13:51] <gms> respond yes to write config and then edit that config
[13:51] <ztane> skype hanging bugs
[13:52] <screwsss> how do you get linux on a mac!!
[13:53] <jrib> !mac | screwsss
[13:53] <screwsss> beh forget it
[13:53] <screwsss> thought there might be a click and intall way
[13:53] <eslu> lol screwsss
[13:53] <jrib> screwsss: you just put the disk in and boot from it if all you want is ubuntu...
[13:54] <eslu> must be a internet troll :)
[13:54] <Hrki> gms: thx, i will try xubuntu-dekstop
[13:55] <screwsss> i aint no troll
[13:55] <screwsss> im looking for ubuntu help and sure enough i aint gettin it!!
[13:55] <gms> screwsss if you want to install via purly click and install "reboot with cd/dvd in drive as mentioned" enable boot from optical drive first or it will fail. otherwise install a virtual machine and install on that. either way ubuntu is a clickers os
[13:55] <rusfus_> gms_: i may have resolved, try to reboot and do the test
[13:55] <eslu> Anyone mind helping me configuring Samba? I've right clicked a folder in Nautulus, shared it and allowed guest accounts and write/read permissions. But non of my Windows 8 computers are able to connect, they do detect the share though!
[13:56] <eslu> Nautilus*
[13:56] <gms> kk rusfus_ ill wait for you to come back
[13:57] <screwsss> wasnt askin bout that
[13:57] <screwsss> i was askin, do i need to get display drivers when i install ubuntu
[13:57] <eslu> No you don't need to get display drivers
[13:57] <rusfus_> gms_: thank you for everything
[13:58] <andjela> is 12.10 better then 12.04 for netbooks
[13:58] <screwsss> hrm
[13:58] <screwsss> interesting advise
[13:58] <eslu> andjela, go for 12.04. 12.10 still have plenty of bugs.
[13:58] <screwsss> dude
[13:58] <screwsss> * andjela<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Quit (Client Quit)
[13:59] <eslu> ah
[13:59] <screwsss> :L
[14:01] <peacock> !ot
[14:01] <screwsss> eslu so you dont need display drivers?
[14:01] <screwsss> do they automatically instal or somtihn
[14:01] <eslu> you get display drivers when installing
[14:02] <X--newbie> hey i installed Slim login manager  and revoved it .. now i can't log in .. ? how to set GDM again?
[14:03] <blazer> ciao a tutti
[14:04] <cuore> hey i installed Slim login manager  and revoved it .. now i can't log in .. ? how to set GDM again?
[14:05] <screwsss> why the hell would you wanna install linux on a mac. isnt OSX incompatible with everything enough as it is
[14:07] <cuore> hey i installed Slim login manager  and removed it .. now i can't log in .. ? how to set GDM again?
[14:08] <cuore> hey i installed Slim login manager  and removed it .. now i can't log in .. ? how to set GDM again?
[14:08] <Mrokii> Where in 12.10 can I switch off Auto-login?
[14:10] <handuel> Mrokii: user accounts under settings, remember to click unlock at the top to change
[14:10] <gms> cuore did you try apt-get install slim
[14:10] <Mrokii> handuel: Ah, thanks.
[14:10] <gms> do tht again it should give you login options to select
[14:12] <aali83> hi guys, can anyone please tell me how do i add change password for a newly created user via command line?
[14:12] <gms> passwd <user>
[14:12] <aali83> ahh thank you
[14:14] <X--newbie> gsm :  i can't log to ubuntu to do that
[14:17] <gms> X--newbie == aali8??
[14:17] <stapper> whois stapper
[14:17] <X--newbie> what?
[14:18] <X--newbie> O.o
[14:18] <gms> oh heh
[14:18] <gms> sorry
[14:19] <gms> you can just switch to your non x console. try ctrl-alt-f1
[14:19] <Jisawesome_> I am setting up an ubuntu webser, however it is only accessible by people connected to my wifi, how do I change this
[14:19] <Jisawesome_> *webserver
[14:19] <gms> once your done switch back to x by using f7 i think instead
[14:19] <guang_> i am installing 12.04 by upgrading 10.40,now flashplugin-installer is downloading,but it seems to stuck.
[14:19] <gms> Jisawesome_ on the wifi look for port forwarding options. add a port forward for port 80 to the local server
[14:20] <guang_> how  should i do?
[14:20] <X--newbie> gsm :  i will try that and reply
[14:20] <X--newbie> :)
[14:20] <handuel> Jisawesome_ type in your external ip into your adress bar to acsess options
[14:20] <Jisawesome_> how do I find my external ip?
[14:21] <gms> Jisawesome_ it will be on your routers "WAN" page
[14:21] <handuel> Jiswawesome_ ipchicken.com
[14:21] <Jisawesome_> gms, how do I get to that page?
[14:22] <gms> erm. handuel not external. try the gateway ip instead
[14:22] <Jisawesome_> me?
[14:22] <handuel> gms: sorry
[14:22] <gms> usualy <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> or 10.xxx.xxx.xxx style. look at your ifconfig
[14:23] <handuel> gms: to port forward my router i used ipchicken then copied and pasted that adress into my url bar
[14:23] <Jisawesome_> Wait what?
[14:23] <gms> Jisawesome_
[14:23] <gms>  ifconfig | grep inet
[14:23] <gms>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[14:24] <handuel> Jisawesome_ ignore me, I think I gave you incorrect information
[14:24] <Jisawesome_> ok
[14:24] <Jisawesome_> I did that gms
[14:24] <gms> for me my gateway or the routers config page will be http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ based on my ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:25] <gms> handuel your router may be configured for external administration. if so i recomend you disable that option. if you require it port forward to your linux box so traffic goes through your iptables and then rout back to the routers internal ip. protect the traffic by restricting it heavly with some chains reflecting login locations etc you might use.
[14:26] <vladimir> Hi. Please, how can I increase console resolution in Ubuntu 12.04 guest in Virtualbox?
[14:27] <Jisawesome_> I cant seem to find how to connect to the page
[14:28] <eslu> vladimir, i haven't touched virtualbox in a while. But its either in the virtualbox settings, or in Ubuntu.
[14:28] <eslu> Top right corner -> Displays. If its in ubuntu
[14:28] <gms> Jisawesome_ go to a console and tup "ifconfig | grep inet"
[14:28] <BluesKaj> handuel, for external IP , make sure you have wget and curl installed then you can use the termianl with this command  , curl ifconfig.me
[14:29] <gms> look for the one that matches the connection type your using.
[14:30] <ngueba> my ubuntu keeps turning off my screen, any of you guys may help me?
[14:30] <vladimir> eslu, I try to reconfigure grub2, but I had no success...
[14:30] <gms> ngueba settings->screen disable blank screen and possibly dim if that anoys too
[14:30] <eslu> checked settings inside ubuntu vladimir?
[14:30] <eslu> i know Google Chromium OS, won't let you adjust resolution in Virtualbox. Maybe same for Ubuntu.
[14:30] <Jisawesome_> gms, you say I have to open port 8-0?
[14:31] <gms> port 80
[14:31] <ngueba> gms i already set that up but it didn't work
[14:31] <ngueba> any other ideia?
[14:31] <gms> port 80 is the offical http protocol port. if your plan ning on ssl add 443 as well
[14:31] <handuel> gms: thanks for trying to help me but i've worked out that that was my old router, now I just go to bthomehub.home, to set things up
[14:32] <vladimir> eslu, graphical resolution is ok (1900x1080x32). But the console resolution is 640x480...
[14:32] <neweruser123> guys i have a question
[14:33] <Jisawesome_> Dont ask to ask
[14:33] <eslu> ah, then i can't help you vladimir. i don't know much about virtualbox :(
[14:33] <neweruser123> where can I get steam on ubuntu/kubuntu
[14:33] <neweruser123> i heard valve ported it to linux
[14:33] <gms> vladimir are you talking about just the consoles within or the desktop screen.
[14:33] <vladimir> eslu, thanks for your efforts to help me...
[14:33] <michealPW> There's no native steam yet, neweruser123
[14:33] <handuel> neweruser123: it's not finished yet
[14:33] <neweruser123> howmuch longer?
[14:33] <handuel> neweruser123: it is perfectly runnable using wine
[14:33] <michealPW> neweruser123: You'll have to settle for Wine right now, which I think should work fine?
[14:33] <eslu> neweruser123, beta coming soon in november/december 2012.
[14:33] <neweruser123> and once its out where can I find it?
[14:33] <eslu> for other users 2013.
[14:33] <neweruser123> in the software center?
[14:33] <eslu> probably
[14:34] <neweruser123> oh ok thanks and 1 last question what is the diff between WIne and WInetricks ?
[14:34] <michealPW> Man that will be so cool...
[14:34] <michealPW> :)
[14:34] <handuel> neweruser123 and check omgubuntu.co.uk for information about it, the admins there follow it closely and post info quite regurally
[14:34] <cuore> gsm : thX to remember that there is something called " recovery mode" lol  i just reselected gdm by 'dpkg-reconfigure gdm' command
[14:34] <vladimir> gms, i'm talking about the console resolution outside desktop screen
[14:34] <neweruser123> ok handuel
[14:34] <cuore> thanks alot see ya
[14:34] <michealPW> neweruser123: Winetricks is a set of scripts that helps make using Wine easier.
[14:34] <handuel> neweruser123: wine allows you to run windows programs whereas winetricks makes using some programs in wine easier
[14:34] <ngueba> gms: i've already set that up, but it didn't work
[14:35] <neweruser123> ok im using WIne tricks to install steam is that ok?
[14:35] <michealPW> neweruser123: Wine is a set of libraries that natively implement Microsoft's Windows' libraries that allow Windows programs to run natively on Linux.
[14:35] <Jisawesome_> gms, I finally connected to it
[14:35] <eslu> is the filesystem F2FS finished, or is it under developement?
[14:35] <michealPW> Yea, should be fine. Personally I recommend PlayOnLinux, but you can achieve similar results with Winetricks.
[14:35] <neweruser123> ok il try playonlinux
[14:36] <Guest____> hi. how can I change the window manager in ubuntu 12.10?
[14:36] <gms> Jisawesome_ somehow i knew you would without me having to say any more :P
[14:36] <neweruser123> oh yeah 1 last question
[14:36] <Jisawesome_> gms, I meant my router page...
[14:36] <neweruser123> where can I find the latest drivers e.g. AMD graphics card drivers
[14:36] <philinux> Guest____: which wm do you want
[14:36] <eslu> neweruser123, are you using ubuntu 12.10 or ubuntu 12.04?
[14:37] <Guest____> philinux: stumpwm. I already installed it using apt-get. but I can't find out how to use it
[14:37] <michealPW> neweruser123: With POL it's just so easy to swap in/out different versions of Wine for different games. Some games want certain versions of Wine or certain wine settings enabled/disabled.. PlayOnLinux makes it easy to setup a seperate Wine and Wine config for each individual windows program/game you install. They're all seperate from each other, as well.
[14:37] <gms> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[14:37] <fantasuello> ciao
[14:37] <neweruser123> im using kubuntu, i plan to remove kubuntu today in a few hours
[14:37] <Jisawesome_> !portforward
[14:37] <neweruser123> and install ubuntu
[14:37] <philinux> Guest____: log out and choose it for your session at login
[14:37] <eslu> alright, coz in ubuntu its just system settings -> drivers -> fgrlx
[14:37] <michealPW> I found I had to go to amd.com (ati.amd.com I think) and download the drivers from them. The drivers I got from Ubuntu were good but for some reason Gnome-Shell wouldn't work properly with it.
[14:38] <neil> hi guys i cannot update my ubuntu netbook? i did not get a hold of the error message. please help or PM me for support
[14:38] <Guest____> philinux: how? I can't find out how to choose...
[14:38] <vladimir> gms, can you help about this issue?
[14:38] <Eagleman> Why was my certificate valid after 2 weeks instead of instant when i made it, I've chcked the date and time on the machine i made them and it only differed  1 or 2 hours?
[14:38] <neweruser123> how can I switch from kubuntu to Ubunutu easily?
[14:38] <michealPW> neweruser123: You don't have to use either/or. If you like KDE you can stick with Kubuntu and pull in any program you want from Ubuntu. In fact, you can just do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop right now, which will install all the Ubuntu stuff for you.. I do the opposite.
[14:38] <philinux> Guest____:  hang on a mo
[14:39] <michealPW> I install Ubuntu, then I apt-get install edubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu heehee.
[14:39] <neweruser123> ok micheal i will try now how would i switch back later?
[14:39] <michealPW> That way I can log-in and select whichever desktop environment I want and I have access to all the neat stuff from each distro :P
[14:39] <michealPW> You would do sudo apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop
[14:39] <michealPW> Which will revert you back to your original Kubuntu.
[14:39] <neweruser123> ok the problem with kubuntu it does not have Ubuntu software center
[14:39] <gms> vladimir i need to open a query my eyes just cant track of follow this chan as it moves too quick and i have memory of retention equivilant to a sive retaining water
[14:40] <neweruser123> it has "muon software"
[14:40] <neil> guys i need help with this one. "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources."
[14:40] <guang_> i click once,but effect like twice.
[14:40] <michealPW> neweruser123: Ah, you can install the Ubuntu Software Center if you want. It's really neat, huh? It's the same software and everything, just so you're aware. What Muon can find, Ubuntu Software Center can find and vice versa.
[14:40] <philinux> Guest____: sorry got confused with DE not a WM have u seen the documentation http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/manual/stumpwm_1.html#SEC2
[14:40] <guang_> how to fix it/
[14:40] <guang_> ?
[14:40] <vladimir> gms, LoL...
[14:40] <michealPW> neweruser123: In fact, I THINK you can open Muon, search for "Ubuntu Software Center" and install it all by itself :P
[14:41] <desu> So guys any advice on compiling a custom kernel?
[14:41] <neweruser123> ok michealPW
[14:41] <philinux> Guest____: you'll have to read through it all
[14:41] <michealPW> Try that and see how that works.
[14:41] <gms> desu yes. take great care
[14:41] <Guest____> philinux: thanks, I'll have a look
[14:41] <Jisawesome_> gms, what do I do from the browser pagte
[14:41] <neweruser123> yes it works thanks for that, installing now
[14:41] <eslu> Got a question about PlayonLinux, why does it download a old wine version everytime i wish to install a game? Is there anything i can do, to make it use my CURRENT version of wine instead?
[14:41] <desu> Why take great care? what's the worst that could happen?
[14:42] <gms> Jisawesome_ have a look around in the firewall/port forward section. may modems/routers/wifi devices put on same page some have there own page.
[14:42] <philinux> Guest____: also see this https://github.com/sabetts/stumpwm/wiki/Ubuntu-12.04-and-Gnome-and-StumpWM
[14:42] <neweruser123> Is firefox the default browser for Ubuntu?
[14:42] <philinux> yes
[14:42] <eslu> neweruser123: yes
[14:42] <guang_> yes
[14:42] <neweruser123> I heard FIrefox wont get FLash player anymore what will hapen
[14:42] <michealPW> eslu: If you click on teh game you've installed and then click Configure, you can tell it to use whatever Wine version you want for that specific game.
[14:42] <guang_> i click once,but effect like twice.how to fix it?
[14:42] <desu> chromium-browser
[14:42] <Eagleman> Why was my certificate valid after 2 weeks instead of instant when i made it, I've chcked the date and time on the machine i made them and it only differed  1 or 2 hours?
[14:42] <eslu> alright cheers michealpw
[14:43] <gms> often the new kernel compiler reads out options not fully understood and enables them thinking they are cool features but often end up with unstable or incompatible kernel.
[14:43] <neweruser123> should I switch to google chrome
[14:43] <philinux> neweruser123: no need to switch flash ok for yonks yet
[14:43] <michealPW> eslu: By default, PlayOnLinux will install a stable version of Wine. It's not relevant though, 'cause POL's whole point is to configure a separate Wine for each individual game, whatever Wine that game runs best with.
[14:43] <michealPW> Np
[14:43] <gms> in general a default compile unless your using intel optimized compiler will do.
[14:44] <gms> you only realy need to compile of your bleeding edge or developing
[14:44] <philinux> neweruser123: linux will still get security update for a couple of years IIRC
[14:44] <Jisawesome_> gms, it wants me to choose a program I am doing it for
[14:44] <michealPW> neweruser123: That's poppycock. Firefox will always get Flash plugins, in fact most browsers get the plugin that was made for Firefox, since Firefox uses the Netscape Plugin architecture, since Firefox evovled from the old Netscape project.
[14:44] <desu>
[14:44] <gms> Jisawesome_ what program is it asking for. ?
[14:44] <neweruser123> ok i see
[14:44] <gms> mayby a screenshot of what your looking at
[14:44] <alecb> I really like the tray icons in unity for volume, battery, etc, but I'm not using unity. is there any way to run these indicators as applets in other wms like you can with nm-applet?
[14:44] <michealPW> Besides, flash gets less and less useful as time goes on... Hopefully one day you wont ever need a flash plugin :)
[14:45] <neweruser123> like html5 ?
[14:45] <michealPW> Yes, exactly.
[14:45] <spleen> hi
[14:45] <philinux> michealPW: see this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/adobe-adandons-flash-on-linux
[14:45] <morsnowski> flash is to be discontinued anyway, and I can't wait
[14:45] <spleen>  just a question please
[14:46] <desu> And then everyone changed to Mac OS, and bunnies stopped reproducing.
[14:46] <spleen> how to get back in gnome shell the icone "show applications" in the dash ?
[14:46] <philinux> html5 FTW