[11:53] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you should install all updates - things will only break if a.) you are using external software repos b.) you are using custom software (such as your compiled module) c.) a genuine bug - which are actually very rare
[11:54] <smoores> This cron job and script I made are sending me blank emails. If i execute the script on my terminal, the e-mail has content. What's the deal? http://pastebin.com/vXS4a5Wb
[11:54] <Wiz_KeeD> alright
[11:54] <Wiz_KeeD> dpkg -L package shows the files installed by the package, are these ALL the changes that package made on the system?
[11:54] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: it will just show the packages
[11:54] <Wiz_KeeD> And I assume this is the information used when you remove or purge
[11:55] <chucjh> can someone help me with vaapi drivers
[11:55] <chucjh> when I run mythtv frontend, it crashes
[11:55] <Wiz_KeeD> To list the files installed by a package, in this case the ufw package, enter: dpkg -L ufw
[11:55] <Wiz_KeeD> -l are the packages
[11:56] <BruceS> I have needed to drop back to kernel 3.0.2-052-generic - 053 periodically hangs for no apparent reason and needs a HARD reset - if I run apt-get dist-upgrade will the system bring back the 053 or will it apply patches to what I have?
[11:56] <ikonia> correct
[11:56] <Neo31> are there channels dedicated for ubuntu global jam ?
[11:56] <Wiz_KeeD> Ahh and for example when I removed the libsql library with apt-get that cleared the entire system with apt-get
[11:57] <ChanSavr> in this day and age is it okay to use a single partition for a server?
[11:57] <Wiz_KeeD> If I really wanted to do it again I'd use dpkg -r package
[11:57] <Wiz_KeeD> since It would not consider the dependencies as well right?
[11:57] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: apt-get is the right way
[11:57] <ChanSavr> using 2x1TB hdd in raid1
[11:58] <Wiz_KeeD> I know it is, was just talking in theory
[11:58] <ikonia> in theory - apt-get is the correct way to do it, and the way you should use
[11:59] <Wiz_KeeD> What are the apt-get configuration files that purge removes, and their purpose?
[11:59] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: sorry, I don't understand what you are asking
[11:59] <honestly> Wiz_KeeD: purge removes the application config files
[12:00] <beykno> is "ifconfig" command used in almost all linux distros or does it differ from distro to distro?
[12:00] <Wiz_KeeD> application config files, what do they actually provide
[12:00] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: they are for the application you are removing
[12:00] <honestly> they provide config...
[12:00] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: if you are removing the application, why keep the config ?
[12:00] <honestly> it's where the application settings are saved
[12:01] <reisio> beykno: don't cross post :/
[12:03] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys I am facing Kernel panic with message "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message
[12:03] <dhanasekaran> can you guide me how to fix this
[12:03] <dhanasekaran> I am ubuntu 12.04
[12:04] <ikonia> dhanasekaran: look a few lines up - does it give a clue to what's hanging ?
[12:04] <dhanasekaran>  3.2.0-37-generic
[12:04] <daftykins> i had that issue the other day
[12:04] <dhanasekaran> ikonia: http://i.imgur.com/HypzZNv.png
[12:04] <daftykins> have you checked that your disk is fine?
[12:05] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, I've used the gui to install security and important packages and it errored out giving me the option to send the problem...
[12:05] <ikonia> dhanasekaran: ahhh disk hanging
[12:05] <dhanasekaran> I am not able to login machine ssh and snmp down
[12:05] <Wiz_KeeD> I am going to restart now to see what happens
[12:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: it sounds like your install is a real mess if you can't do updates
[12:05] <moosebook> hi guys. i run wicd on my laptop and it has suddenly started giving me trouble while connecting to the internet. wicd shows that the connection has been made, however it does not go though. pinging 'ping -c 3 www.google.com' results in 'ping: unknown host www.google.com'. the laptop dual boots with windows 7, and windows connects without a problem. what should i do?
[12:05] <daftykins> dhanasekaran: can you reset it?
[12:05] <Wiz_KeeD> right, my fault
[12:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you installed ALL available updates, correct ?
[12:05] <Wiz_KeeD> Security and Important
[12:05] <Wiz_KeeD> All of them checked
[12:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ALL available updates ?
[12:06] <dhanasekaran> daftykins: let me try
[12:06] <Wiz_KeeD> Security and Important from the settings and checked everything in that list
[12:06] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ALL available updates ?
[12:06] <Wiz_KeeD> I told you this is what happened last time on a fresh install, i'm not crazy
[12:06] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: did you select ALL updates available ?
[12:06] <Luyin> Wiz_KeeD: you should always install ALL available updates. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade should do
[12:06] <dhanasekaran> daftykins: Iet me try power recycle
[12:06] <daftykins> ok
[12:07] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/8322616
[12:07] <Wiz_KeeD> that is what it returend
[12:07] <Wiz_KeeD> So I assume yes
[12:07] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: just so I'm clear - you selected ALL available updates ?
[12:07] <daftykins> bbl
[12:07] <Wiz_KeeD> yes
[12:07] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: as in everything it offered,
[12:07] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: great, ok, so that's what you need to do going forward
[12:07] <Luyin> ikonia: check his paste, seems good.
[12:08] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you need to keep on top of that
[12:08] <Wiz_KeeD> that's what i'm saying
[12:08] <Wiz_KeeD> It errored out though
[12:08] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: however, if your update manager is crashing, you have more problems
[12:08] <Wiz_KeeD> As I thought it would happen, as it did last time
[12:08] <Wiz_KeeD> Will reboot see what happens
[12:08] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: if it's acceptable, I'd suggest re-installing as you wanted to do earlier - and then going through each phase of setting up your desktop how you want it
[12:09] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: eg: install - update to current, confirm working, get your wireless working, update, confirm working, get required software installed safely, confirm working, all the time keeping up to date
[12:09] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: as basic updates should not cause your system to crash
[12:10] <Etilas> anybody tried to setup Quake2 on Ubuntu? How did it go?
[12:10] <ikonia> Etilas:  long time ago, worked fine, may have a few problems with modern ubuntu though as a lots changed
[12:11] <smoores> This cron job and script I made are sending me blank emails. If i execute the script on my terminal, the e-mail has content. What's the deal? http://pastebin.com/vXS4a5Wb
[12:11] <ikonia> smoores: look at the output your command is generating first.
[12:11] <ikonia> smoores: is the subject line blank ?
[12:12] <Wiz_KeeD> haha, now when I boot it says hub: port status failed
[12:12] <Wiz_KeeD> like 20 times
[12:12] <Wiz_KeeD> so much for the update
[12:12] <smoores> ikonia: just the content of the email is blank
[12:12] <Wiz_KeeD> Now I remember why I didn't do them
[12:12] <smoores> ikonia: the command outputs fine if i execute the script
[12:12] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: stop blaming the updates
[12:12] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[12:12] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: again - youre' guessing blindly
[12:12] <smoores> ikonia:its in roots crontab.
[12:12] <Wiz_KeeD> hahaha, it just started to do that when I updated
[12:12] <reisio> hey BluesKaj
[12:12] <smoores> ikonia: cron job sends me a blank email
[12:12] <BluesKaj> hi reisio
[12:12] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: yes, but your machine also crashed when you update which suggests something more serious is wrong
[12:13] <Wiz_KeeD> okay nvm
[12:13] <ikonia> smoores: but the subject is ok from cron ?
[12:13] <smoores> ikonia: yeah
[12:13] <Wiz_KeeD> Can you tell me in advance what would you say if i do a fresh install and update and it breaks?
[12:13] <Wiz_KeeD> Just out of curiosity
[12:13] <Wiz_KeeD> pure curiosity
[12:13] <smoores> ikonia: the script is +x and 777
[12:14] <reisio> define 'it breaks'
[12:14] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I'd work through the problem from a known clean/good base to understand what's failing and why
[12:14] <Ana3412> i'm a lonely girl
[12:14] <reisio> oh sorry misunderstood
[12:14] <Wiz_KeeD> ahhhhhhhh, I see :)) that's enough for me, okay thanks
[12:14] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you may have a genuine bug, in which case we need to get it logged and fixed, however from what we know at the moment - I'd assume not
[12:14] <Wiz_KeeD> i'd just avoid updating if the system works so there are ust two different approaches
[12:14] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: avoiding updates is not really an option
[12:15] <Wiz_KeeD> okay, time for format for the...37th time :))
[12:15] <reisio> :/
[12:15] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Wifi still not working?
[12:15] <BruceS> I can't believe your patience guys - Wiz_KeeD is taking all of your time and ignoring your advice
[12:15] <Wiz_KeeD> Ignoring? I just did everything I was told :))
[12:15] <ikonia> BruceS: we're on the right track now, so just hang in
[12:15] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: remember this time - don't rush into ANYTHING
[12:15] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: clean install - confirm working, plugin wired cable, update, reboot, confirm working
[12:16] <Wiz_KeeD> I never do, I followed EdwardSnowden's advice step-by-step
[12:16] <ikonia> nothing else
[12:16] <reisio> heh
[12:16] <Wiz_KeeD> Yes sir, will you be around to help then?
[12:16] <Wiz_KeeD> I will not do a single cd .. without permission :))
[12:16] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: please don't say you don't rush in, because we've just proved you do typing commands yo udon't konw what they do
[12:16] <Wiz_KeeD> just sudo apt-get install xchat to get here
[12:16] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: the channel is here to help
[12:16] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: sure, install xchat
[12:16] <Wiz_KeeD> Okay, format, brb in...how much it would take
[12:16] <Wiz_KeeD> One word of advice
[12:16] <Wiz_KeeD> there is the option of download and install plugins while installing ubuntu, should I check that?
[12:17] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: lets keep it sane - don't do that now
[12:17] <Luyin> Wiz_KeeD: you won't even need that, on a fresh install of ubuntu you have Empathy to connect to IRC if you wish to use that.
[12:17] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: base install from cd - no updates, confirm working, run updates from wired connection, confirm working
[12:17] <Luyin> ikonia: why not install the plugins already? that keeps him from problems later
[12:17] <ikonia> Luyin: because we don't know if there is a genuine bug with an update on his machine
[12:17] <Wiz_KeeD> i'll wait until it's settled
[12:18] <ikonia> Luyin: so this can confirm if the bug comes from an update
[12:18] <Luyin> ikonia: ok
[12:18] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia and everyone, despite my frustration from inability to get things done and start working I really appreciate the time and patience given
[12:18] <ikonia> Luyin: normall I agree with you, but we have a big gap of unknown here
[12:18] <Wiz_KeeD> nobody here is forced to help with anything yet everyone does, I do appreciate that
[12:18] <smoores> ikonia: any idea why my root crontab job isn't piping output from pflogsumm to mail?
[12:18] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, and if it does I have to format once more :(
[12:18] <Wiz_KeeD> puff
[12:18] <Luyin> Wiz_KeeD: good luck and you're welcome ;)
[12:19] <Wiz_KeeD> ok so no updates
[12:19] <ikonia> smoores: probaly because the command you are using to generate the output isn't in the root users $PATH
[12:19] <Wiz_KeeD> Then I'll be guinee pig and install them
[12:19] <Wiz_KeeD> brb
[12:19] <smoores> ikonia: /usr/sbin/pflogsumm
[12:19] <ikonia> smoores: can you run it as a non-privileged user ?
[12:20] <smoores> ikonia: yes
[12:20] <ikonia> smoores: test it with your own crontab and find out if it's a problem with crontab/root-crontab and we can move forward
[12:22] <smoores> ikonia: doesn't work from non-privileged users crontab
[12:22] <smoores> ikonia: works from non-privileged users shell, though
[12:23] <ikonia> smoores: ok, so it's the crontab shell
[12:23] <ikonia> smoores: so in your script put the full path to the applcation, see if that makes a difference
[12:23] <ikonia> smoores: I suspect it's the default shell enviornment
[12:23] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> ikonia: install this third-party software fluendo mp3 pligin mpeg layer-3 audio decoding technology etc?
[12:23] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: no
[12:23] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> ok
[12:23] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: hence "3rd party"
[12:23] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> yea qas dodgy
[12:24] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> asked just to be sure, would not check it myself
[12:24] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: no problem, asking is the right thing to do
[12:24] <darko> Hello
[12:24] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> Installation type, something else tight?
[12:24] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: pardon ? what do you mean ?
[12:25] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> Since Erase ububtu 12.04.3 lts and reinstall crashed last time
[12:25] <smoores> ikonia: did the trick, thanks.
[12:25] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: hang on, the installer has been crashing ?
[12:25] <ikonia> smoores: no sweat
[12:25] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> I would be better off deleting the partition right?
[12:25] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: has the installer been crashing before ?
[12:25] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> if i did chiise the first option when reinstaling
[12:25] <darko> i need to change the background color of nautilus , but i am using ubuntu 12.04 so there is no longer the "Background and Emblems" option
[12:26] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> not the first time and when i deleted the partition
[12:26] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: just looking for yes/no - has the installer being crashing when you've tried to install in the past
[12:26] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> only when reinstalling the firat time with that option
[12:26] <darko> i searched online and found out i need to edit nautilus.css , but i can only change the sidebar colors through that
[12:26] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: so "yes"
[12:26] <PeterGriffin> Samba problem: When I try to create ot copy file in a samba share from a Kubuntu desktop, the access is denied. It happens when it is mounted fron /etc/fstab. When I mount it browsing the network from frowser it acts ok.
[12:26] <Juiffi> Oh Lord YEAH! I was creating a new partition table for my usb memory. Well, forced it from commandline, since Gparted failed. At that time it was labeled sdC. After reboot it was sdB and my external 500GB HDD was the sdC. Guess who formatted the bloody 500gb drive with  8 days of nonspot music (and no pirated! ALL ripped from CDs! **** of a job), all my photos, Band promotion pictures etc.  I'm really happy now.
[12:26] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> not on the last install it didn't
[12:26] <darko> any way i can change the actual browsing window's background color ?
[12:26] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> just when i picked that option on first reinstall
[12:26] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: I didn't ask the last install - I asked if it had crashed on previous installs
[12:27] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> that said erase ununtu and rinstall
[12:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: please try to answer clearly the question I asked - not the answer you think I need
[12:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: have previous installers crashed - yes/no
[12:27] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> yes then
[12:27] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> what's your conclusion
[12:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: how many installs crashed
[12:27] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> 1
[12:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: and it's a specific option that causes the crash
[12:27] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> yew
[12:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: which option
[12:28] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> Erase Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS and reinstall (only available if ybuntu has veen pteviously installed)
[12:28] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: ok, as you have nothing to lose at this point, verify if that option still crashed, it could be useful later
[12:28] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> when there was unpartitioned space it worked with just install ubuntu
[12:29] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> hmm...
[12:29] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> I'll submit to bug test sure
[12:29] <ikonia> no
[12:29] <ikonia> I didn't say submit a bug
[12:29] <ikonia> I said verify if that option still crashes
[12:29] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: please please pay attention to what you are being asked to do
[12:29] <ikonia> stop rushing ahead with what you think you're being asked
[12:31] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> I'm testing it you will submit it maybe :))
[12:31] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> i'm installing, it takes a bit
[12:31] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> so far so good
[12:31] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: there is no need to submit anything at this time
[12:31] <utente> ciao
[12:31] <utente> c'è qualcuno che parla ITALIANO ?
[12:32] <utente> mi serve aiuto..
[12:32] <ikonia> !it | utente
[12:32] <utente> Ok, I need help I ve just installed ubuntustudio 13.10 and I need to
[12:32] <utente> install grub customizer to add some options in the grub2 menu
[12:33] <utente> how can I do, please?
[12:34] <utente> anyone please?
[12:34] <DJones> utente: For queries about Ubuntu STudio 13.10 you're probably better asking in either #ubuntu+1 (which is the support channel for development versions of Ubuntu), or possibly #ubuntustudio (although they may also refer you to #ubuntu+1
[12:34] <PeterGriffin> Samba problem: When I try to create ot copy file in a samba share from a Kubuntu desktop, the access is denied. It happens when it is mounted fron /etc/fstab. When I mount it browsing the network from frowser it acts ok.
[12:37] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> ikonia: does it matter how the partition was formatted before? could that affect anything?
[12:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: as in filesystem option ?
[12:38] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> os-wise idk
[12:38] <ikonia> os wise ?
[12:38] <ikonia> what do you mean ?
[12:38] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> 1 sec
[12:43] <lessless> hey folks, why does my keyboard don't work in mark of the ninja game? it's a directx11 game afaik
[12:44] <Pessimist> !wine
[12:46] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, it has installed successfully and rebooted gracefully, but this comes up on boot and it say on top right i have restricted software: https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/20130913_154134.jpg?w=AAAl6S2rnttyZ8NstukNYBs-vAnkYd91NTp11sf3UJfmMQ
[12:46] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: that post you've made is private, I can't see it
[12:46] <Wiz_KeeD> I have done nothing else except sudo apt-get install xchat
[12:46] <Wiz_KeeD> ah damn
[12:47] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, https://www.dropbox.com/s/ck1h1qdmom1oh19/20130913_154134.jpg
[12:47] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[12:47] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: does that actually stop it booting ?
[12:47] <Wiz_KeeD> no, as you can see i'm online here
[12:47] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: that's just a warning about your wireless cards firmware
[12:47] <Wiz_KeeD> I know
[12:47] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ok, that's fine and not unexpected at this time
[12:48] <Wiz_KeeD> most probably, awaiting your clear commands
[12:48] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so now update to the current update level applying all offered updates
[12:48] <Wiz_KeeD> I'm opening up a file in google drive to write down all the commands I issue
[12:48] <Wiz_KeeD> I still have wired connection and wired connection 1 lol
[12:48] <Wiz_KeeD> I think it was already there
[12:48] <Wiz_KeeD> ok
[12:48] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: that's not a problem - we'll deal with that later
[12:49] <Wiz_KeeD> 35 updates have been detected everything is clicked
[12:49] <Wiz_KeeD> Install updates as it popped up right?
[12:49] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: correct
[12:49] <Wiz_KeeD> mass-kick! :))
[12:49] <ikonia> !away > dean|away
[12:52] <dean> @ikonia sorry about that!
[12:53] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, installed gracefully, asking for reboot
[12:53] <ikonia> dean: not a problem
[12:53] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ok, so this should give us some info
[12:53] <Wiz_KeeD> in what sense ikonia ?
[12:53] <Wiz_KeeD> btw, where are you from if you don't mind me asking?
[12:53] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: we'll know if updates actually break your system or not - as this point you have nothing but official ubuntu software installed
[12:54] <Kartagis> how do I change the language? it turned to Japanese and I can't read it
[12:54] <Wiz_KeeD> Indeed, and no errors so far
[12:54] <Wiz_KeeD> Should I reboot ikonia or should I get a log of things updated or something?
[12:54] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: reboot - we just need a black and white answer at this time
[12:55] <Wiz_KeeD> ok, on it
[12:56] <mrrcp> hey is there a way to remove the /home encryption?
[12:56] <m113t> mrrcp: Is it full encyrption that you've turned on?
[12:57] <mrrcp> yea
[12:57] <mrrcp> during install
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[12:57] <m113t> OK, run the Disks app
[12:57] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, no problems except the same error at the start
[12:57] <Wiz_KeeD> other than that, it looks okay
[12:57] <m113t> and you will have any option to right click and change/remove password
[12:57] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ok, so then "updates don't break your system"
[12:57] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: it something you are doing to your system that's causing a conflict/problem with the updates
[12:58] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: which also seems true as you couldn't install the broadcom packages from the ubuntu repo
[12:58] <mrrcp> disky utility?
[12:58] <m113t> mrrcp: yes
[12:58] <Wiz_KeeD> how would I install drivers to work with my wireless card?
[12:58] <mrrcp> hmm
[12:58] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: we'll get to that - there should be a package in the restricted drivers tool
[12:58] <mrrcp> i do not see that option
[12:59] <Wiz_KeeD> what is the next step then ikonia ?
[12:59] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: can you give me a few minutes, I'm just working on a document and want to finish my current chapter
[13:00] <m113t> mrrcp:under volumes, you should have one that says LUKS... select that, and then right click the settings cog, and you should have a "Change Passphrase" option
[13:00] <Wiz_KeeD> sure thing ikonia, in the meantime I can install simple packages such as bzr and skype using the tutorial here
[13:00] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no
[13:00] <Wiz_KeeD> okay then
[13:00] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: what part of "no 3rd party software" am I not getting across
[13:00] <Wiz_KeeD> it's in the apt-get?
[13:00] <Wiz_KeeD> bzr
[13:00] <jhutchins> !tell Wiz_KeeD about wifi
[13:01] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I'm not trying to be awkward, but it's getting really frustrating to guide you / advise you when you just keep ignoring the advice
[13:01] <mrrcp> nopr
[13:01] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I clearly said - 1.) get your desktop installed 2.) update - confirm it's working 3.) get your wifi working, 4.) make sure it's up to date and confirmed working
[13:01] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: those need to happen before you consider installing any software
[13:01] <mrrcp> no option
[13:01] <Wiz_KeeD> agreed, will read documentation in the meantime
[13:02] <blablabla> Hi, I installed Ubuntu 13.4 and now I can not in any way make the flash work, could help me?
[13:02] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I've made that clear to you multiple times now and you still seem to be ignoring it and rushing ahead, it's very very frustrating now
[13:02] <Wiz_KeeD> ping me when you are available please
[13:02] <m113t> mrrcp: this is when you click the cogs on the LUKS option?
[13:02] <mrrcp> o well
[13:02] <mrrcp> what is luks?
[13:03] <m113t> LUKS is the name of the encryption system that ubuntu uses...
[13:03] <mrrcp> i think the only thing encrypted is my home folder
[13:03] <mrrcp> nothing else
[13:03] <mrrcp> so there are no options like that under disk util
[13:03] <mrrcp> i have clicked on everything
[13:04] <m113t> mrrcp: I dont know how to change that sorry. I thought you meant full disk encryption which is LUKS
[13:04] <blablabla> Hi, I installed Ubuntu 13.4 and now I can not in any way make the flash work, could help me?
[13:04] <mrrcp> o no .. sorry
[13:04] <m113t> mrrcp: All good
[13:04] <m113t> blablabla: What browser are you using?
[13:04] <blablabla> Firefox
[13:05] <m113t> I couldn't use flash with firefox
[13:05] <m113t> I ended up installing google chrome, which comes prelaoded with flash
[13:05] <Wiz_KeeD> installing applications withing the ubuntu repository is considered 3rd party?
[13:05] <Wiz_KeeD> It maybe a confusion of terms here
[13:05] <blablabla> Which browser should I use?
[13:06] <m113t> blablabla: Chrome is alot faster than firefox on linux
[13:06] <m113t> blablabla: I would recommend chrome, but its what you feel comfortable using
[13:06] <blablabla> I will try, then I'll be back .. thanks.
[13:11] <shivani> guys "ping google.conm" is working in my vm box but "sudo apt-get update" is not
[13:11] <shivani> please suggest a fix
[13:12] <Tm_T> shivani: please give the exact error apt-get is giving
[13:13] <shivani> Tm_T: http://img.ctrlv.in/img/52330f72f063e.png
[13:13] <shivani> this is the screenshot of my vm
[13:15] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, anything I can read in the meantime so I won't waste time on facebook or such? regarding the wireless thing
[13:15] <shivani> Tm_T: any ideas? fixes?
[13:16] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: depends how much help you want
[13:17] <Wiz_KeeD> i won't run anything unless you instruct so, so far it looks good
[13:17] <blablabla> I turned personal when I start browsing with google chrome, a message appears saying that it can not be loaded.
[13:17] <Wiz_KeeD> i assume browsing won't break anything until you're available
[13:17] <Pessimist> shivani, http://askubuntu.com/questions/104695/how-do-i-change-mirrors-in-ubuntu-server-from-regional-to-main and http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror. Basically it seems that there is a problem with your internet connection if you can ping google.com but you can't connect to ubuntu repos.
[13:18] <Tm_T> shivani: have you tried to ping the repositories it fails to connect to?
[13:18] <m113t> blablabla: what does the message say? can you browse youtube?
[13:18] <Pessimist> shivani, try editing your sources.list like in the second link (don't forget to change to the version you have) and try apt-get update
[13:18] <shivani> Pessimist: trying
[13:18] <shivani> Tm_T: nope
[13:19] <blablabla> I'll try youtube
[13:19] <blablabla> Take a few minutes
[13:19] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error, I was just browsing...
[13:19] <Wiz_KeeD> I really fail to see what I did wrong now, just sudo apt-get install xchat, open firefox and open 2 articles and facebook...
[13:20] <BlitzHere> Hi all. So I just got a Dell Vostro 3560 with Ubuntu preinstalled
[13:20] <BlitzHere> It comes with 12.04
[13:20] <m113t> xchat is 3rd party software? did he not tell you to not install third party software :S
[13:20] <blablabla> Unable to load Shockwave Flash.
[13:20] <blablabla> This is the message
[13:20] <BlitzHere> There appears to be some proprietary stuff in the preinstalled build
[13:20] <BlitzHere> Is it safe to upgrade to 12.10 and then to 13.04?
[13:21] <Tm_T> BlitzHere: should be AFAIK
[13:21] <Pessimist> BlitzHere, or just do a fresh install and save time
[13:21] <jhutchins> BlitzHere: Check with Dell support.  They may have newer versions of proprietary driers if there are any.
[13:21] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, still there?
[13:22] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: yes
[13:22] <BlitzHere> jhutchins: I checked their repo. They don't have anything after precise
[13:22] <jhutchins> BlitzHere: make a backup so you can restore it if something breaks, or install the newer version to a new partition so you can boot back to the old one.
[13:22] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: can you detail the error
[13:23] <Wiz_KeeD> i just was because i opened the network menu
[13:23] <Wiz_KeeD> happens every time
[13:23] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: that maybe because it's trying to configure your wireless card and it's not in a position to be configured
[13:24] <BlitzHere> jhutchins, Pessimist: I'm currently running a live 13.10 off of a USB drive and some stuff like the brightness is broken. There might be other stuff broken too...
[13:24] <Wiz_KeeD> Could very well be, didn't think of that :\ one second until it shows the details
[13:24] <Wiz_KeeD> how do I share the details ikonia ?
[13:24] <BlitzHere> I default build had some more proprietary that made things work
[13:25] <Wiz_KeeD> Only when I close the window it comes up ikonia
[13:25] <Pessimist> BlitzHere, 13.10 is not yet released and expected to have bugs. If your default installation has some propertary drivers it's likely that they will brake the system once your upgrade to 12.10 and 13.04 because your kernel will get upgraded too
[13:25] <Wiz_KeeD> Do you think you can help out with the wireless driver and see if it comes back again? or tell me how I can share the details
[13:26] <m113t> Pessimist: i'm running 13.10, fyi it is reasonably stable.
[13:27] <Tm_T> m113t: it's still not supported or release-ready (:
[13:27] <BlitzHere> Pessimist: Thanks! That's what I was looking for!
[13:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I said I will help you as soon as I'm finished what i'm doing
[13:27] <BlitzHere> Pessimist: I'll probably just upgrade and see what happens. Dell gives a recovery partition to restore to stock anyway
[13:27] <Wiz_KeeD> Don't want to be pushy but I can't stay for very long around the office, can you approximate, more or less?
[13:28] <m113t> Tm_T: Do we know when it will be?
[13:28] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I suggest you leave then and pick this up when you return to th eoffice.
[13:28] <Tm_T> m113t: when it's released, that is in next month
[13:29] <m113t> Tm_T: Will compiz be removed later for Mir, do you know anything about that? I get a 10 second delay after logging in before it shows my desktop
[13:29] <BlitzHere> Hmmm, I should have downloaded 13.04. I got 13.10 because unetbootin on 12.04 didn't have that option and I was too lazy to download the iso myself... :P
[13:29] <Wiz_KeeD> I am in the office, but can't stay here forever, and at Home have just wireless which means I won't be able to use ubuntu with ethernet, that's my worry
[13:29] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: then pick this up tomorrow when you come back to the office.
[13:29] <shivani> Tm_T: I still get this ->http://img.ctrlv.in/img/523313257cf2b.png ; after adding the lines in /etc/sources.txt
[13:29] <Pessimist> BlitzHere, not being able to change the brightness is a common thing people face: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28848/what-does-the-kernel-boot-parameter-set-acpi-osi-linux-do. I would save the output of "lspci -nn" somewhere and look online if you NEED to get any propertary drivers. Then you can download and read how to install them before installing ubuntu 13.04.
[13:29] <Wiz_KeeD> tommorow it's saturday, and I just reformatted my computer...damn
[13:29] <shivani> Pessimist: ^^
[13:30] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you just formatted the machine you are working on ? or a different computer ?
[13:30] <Wiz_KeeD> the machine i'm working on, i already lost 3 days of work and cannot afford one more
[13:30] <Wiz_KeeD> even if it's packed with errors every time I boot i literally can't spend more time on this at least now
[13:30] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: then don't spend any more time on it
[13:30] <BlitzHere> Pessimist: Thanks! I was hoping not to have to troubleshoot by buying a laptop with Ubuntu preinstalled....
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> Then i'm forced to barell through using articles, sorry
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks for your help
[13:31] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: if this is a business critical machine I have no idea why you are using an OS you cannot manage, just use something like Windows
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> I'll try to fix it myself
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> okay
[13:31] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: this is a crazy approach for a business critical machine
[13:31] <ikonia> (assuming you are confident using windows of course)
[13:32] <Wiz_KeeD> i'll just ask people here and try to fix it
[13:32] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I very very very strongly advise against doing what you've done before
[13:32] <BlitzHere> Tm_T, Pessimist, jhutchins: Thanks! I'll factory reset, make a recovery disk and try upgrading from a clean install, just in case Dell's recovery partition doesn't work...
[13:32] <Pessimist> BlitzHere, if it has ubuntu preinstalled it's a good chance that is 'ubuntu certified' and should work oob: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/. As I've said, not being able to change brightness is a common thing
[13:32] <Wiz_KeeD> Guys, i'm firing up additional drivers to install wireless drivers
[13:33] <Wiz_KeeD> And it gives an error
[13:33] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: we are making good progress but you can't be running this machine like this if it is business critical, why are you using an OS you have no idea how to manage on a business critical machine
[13:33] <Wiz_KeeD> It's my personal laptop ikonia and i've worked on ubuntu for 2 years without any major problems since I didn't update, until i made that mistake
[13:33] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: is there a reason you are forcing ubuntu onto this machine if it's business critical
[13:33] <horrow> hello guys somebody can help me to configure program logkeys on ubuntu 13.04 64bit edition???
[13:33] <Wiz_KeeD> other than that it was managable
[13:34] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: please please please, don't rush into this as you did before, your machine is working now - build on that
[13:34] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no random guides, no random commands, no random software until wireless is working stable
[13:34] <Wiz_KeeD> I have done nothing except sudo apt-get install xchat
[13:34] <m113t> Does anyone know to mute a user in xChat?
[13:34] <ikonia> m113t: /ignore
[13:34] <m113t> ta
[13:35] <BlitzHere> Pessimist: I don't trust Ubuntu certified completely actually. I was looking at this thinkpad E530 which is apparently Ubuntu enabled but several sub models are not compatible...
[13:35] <Wiz_KeeD> Now i've opened additional drivers and I see Broadcom STA wireless driver that is not activated and the Activate button on the bottom right
[13:35] <Wiz_KeeD>  This package contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driver for use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-, BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-based hardware.
[13:36] <BlitzHere> Anyway, the dell Vostro 3460 is Ubuntu certified. I have a Vostro 3560 which is a very similar model
[13:37] <Wiz_KeeD> does anyone advise to try to install wireless from that?
[13:38] <Wiz_KeeD> Or what is the proper way to attempt to install wireless drivers?
[13:39] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, can you provide a reasonable tutorial on steps to follow since reading forums and articles is not ok
[13:40] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: not at this time as I'm just finishing off some work
[13:40] <Wiz_KeeD> right
[13:41] <BlitzHere> Thnaks eveyone
[13:41] <BlitzHere> I'll figure stuff out and be back later
[13:41] <BlitzHere> exit
[13:41] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: I can maybe walk you through installing your wireless drivers
[13:41] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: I haven't been reading any problems you've been having though
[13:42] <Wiz_KeeD> that's mighty thoughfull of you cutie
[13:42] <Wiz_KeeD> or "cute" :)
[13:42] <Wiz_KeeD> I just tried installing the drivers via additional drivers in the ubuntu gui
[13:42] <Wiz_KeeD> By pressing activate and it errored out
[13:42] <blablabla> I try to watch videos on youtube and a message saying: Unable load Shockwave Flash.
[13:42] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: What Ubuntu version are you on, and do you know what wireless card you have?
[13:42] <cutie> blablabla: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:43] <mernilio> Hi all! :-)
[13:43] <blablabla> I'll try that.
[13:44] <Wiz_KeeD> cutie: 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01),  Linux local-ubuntu 3.8.0-30-generic #44~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 23 18:32:41 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:45] <Mr_Mulll> hey guys i found a problem with my computer, and i was wondering who can help
[13:45] <nogier> slt
[13:45] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: First do this: sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[13:45] <cutie> Ask your question, Mr_Mulll :)
[13:45] <Mr_Mulll> it's called "Windows" I need to get rid of it but i cant
[13:45] <mernilio> Mr_Mulll: sure, im the kingpin here!
[13:45] <Wiz_KeeD> cutie, it sais something about bcmwl-kernel-source and the log says http://pastie.org/8322829
[13:45] <Wiz_KeeD> are you sure cutie?
[13:45] <ikonia> whoaaaaa
[13:45] <Luyin> Wiz_KeeD: there is a decent wiki, regretably in German: ubuntuusers.de. just found this one, but don't know it so can't say anything about its quality: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[13:45] <Mr_Mulll> whats the best linux distro?
[13:46] <ikonia> that should'nt be installed by default
[13:46] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: Oh that was you
[13:46] <cutie> !best | Mr_Mulll
[13:46] <Wiz_KeeD> sorry?
[13:46] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: I saw your error earlier. Yes, do that apt-get remove
[13:46] <Wiz_KeeD> ok cutie, thank you, acting now
[13:46] <cutie> Wait Wiz_KeeD , you do have Internet on this machine?
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> cutie, through ethernet, yes
[13:47] <cutie> OK good
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> My additional drivers window won't close now
[13:47] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: ignore it
[13:47] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer b43-fwcutter
[13:47] <Luyin> Mr_Mulll: if your computer can do it, try Ubuntu, Ubuntu Gnome or Kubuntu for starters. If it's a little older or you're not sure it can make the necessary performance, give Xubuntu or Lubuntu a try. If you like none of those, come back ;)
[13:47] <nogier> french ?
[13:47] <mernilio> Mr_Mulll: my answer is. If the distro is easy to install and everythings goes just fine, you will not learn anything.
[13:48] <cutie> !fr > NoNMaDDe_
[13:48] <cutie> sorry NoNMaDDe_
[13:48] <Wiz_KeeD> ok cutie
[13:48] <Luyin> mernilio: you can learn enough to proceed with "only" a newbie-distro like Ubuntu imho
[13:48] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: When you have done that, please tell me the output from the command: cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | egrep 'bcm'
[13:48] <Wiz_KeeD> One seccond
[13:48] <Mr_Mulll> oh come now
[13:48] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/8322842
[13:49] <Mr_Mulll> Luyin; i've previously used Ubuntu 10.x and 11.04, Unity ruined it
[13:49] <mernilio> Luyin sure! if you dont dare the console.
[13:49] <blablabla> Tentando usar o youtube apareceu me a mensagem: Shockwave flash has crashed.
[13:49] <Luyin> Mr_Mulll: than use another DE.
[13:49] <Wiz_KeeD> cutie, now what? :(
[13:49] <blablabla> Trying to use youtube showed me the message: Shockwave flash has crashed.
[13:49] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[13:49] <Mr_Mulll> i got ISOs for xubuntu here, made a bootable USB but it didn't get bootable
[13:49] <cutie> blablabla: What browser and Ubuntu version are you using?
[13:49] <Mr_Mulll> maybe do the whole syslinux -maf thingy again
[13:50] <cutie> Mr_Mulll: You don't have to do that any more, you can just dd it to the flash drive or use a tool like unetbootin
[13:50] <blablabla> Google Chrome and Xubuntu 13.4
[13:50] <Luyin> mernilio: Ubuntu has become something of a linux distro for people with a fear for the console, yes. But that doesn't mean you can use it. Personally, I think that's great as a beginner: you can start slowly and see if working with a console is to your taste.
[13:50] <Wiz_KeeD> cutie, http://pastie.org/8322849
[13:50] <Wiz_KeeD> Seems to have worked in the end but bumped into some issues
[13:50] <Mr_Mulll> 11.04 boots fine
[13:51] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: I just need you to let me know the output of cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | egrep 'bcm'
[13:51] <shivani> is it possible to make a bootable usb in ubuntu ?
[13:51] <Mr_Mulll> god damnit! told you windows is a problem, crap keeps freezing
[13:51] <shivani> anyone knows the how to part of this ?
[13:51] <Wiz_KeeD> blacklist bcm43xx
[13:51] <Wiz_KeeD> it's blacklisted
[13:51] <Luyin> shivani: of course, see unetbootin
[13:51] <cutie> shivani: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[13:52] <Mr_Mulll> shivani; very possible ; pendrivelinux.com
[13:52] <shivani> Thanks a ton guys :)
[13:52] <Luyin> and I gather there's an onboard tool for that, too, in ubuntu
[13:52] <Luyin> forgot its name, however
[13:52] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: can you now do: gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[13:52] <Wiz_KeeD> yes
[13:52] <Wiz_KeeD> I could do it with vim also, should i comment that line or smth?
[13:52] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: Find the line that says "blacklist bcm43xx" and put a # in front of it so it says #blacklist bcm43xx
[13:53] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: You know it doesn't matter what text editor you use ;)
[13:53] <blablabla> Using Chrome on my Xubuntu 13.4 I can not use youtube, can someone help me, off course Batman?
[13:53] <mernilio> Luyin Agreed! I have never tried ubuntu myself, but like you say, beginners need a Linux OS, that "just works" from the first boot.
[13:53] <Wiz_KeeD> I do, it's commented cutie
[13:53] <sakshi> Hi all :) I'm faceing problems in installing Turbo C++ on ubuntu 12.04.
[13:53] <sakshi> *facing
[13:53] <Luyin> mernilio: what distro are you using?
[13:53] <cutie> OK Wiz_KeeD now reboot and say a prayer to the wifi driver gods
[13:54] <Wiz_KeeD> why is this the output of the same command as before? #blacklist bcm43xx
[13:54] <Wiz_KeeD> blacklist bcm43xx
[13:54] <Wiz_KeeD> why the one without the hash?
[13:54] <mernilio> Luyin, i have used Slackware since 1994, but im prolly banned from their irc channel for life... ;-)
[13:54] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: Open that file again and double-double check there's a # in front of the correct line
[13:54] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: You don't want to blacklist something impoortant
[13:55] <Wiz_KeeD> I did that, it is
[13:55] <Wiz_KeeD> I don't know why the output of that command shows the hashed one and unhashed one
[13:55] <Luyin> mernilio: nice, I've got VectorLinux on my second notebook, which is slackware-based. Like it a lot, very stable and despite being more advanced than ubuntu or mint easily managable :)
[13:55] <freddo> !list
[13:55] <Kartagis> how do I change the language? it turned to Japanese and I can't read it
[13:56] <Wiz_KeeD> ok it's surely commented
[13:56] <Wiz_KeeD> reboot and that's it cutie?
[13:56] <mernilio> Luyin: Vectorlinux seems nice! I actually burned a copy, but i cant remember if i installed it.
[13:57] <defaultro> hi folks, to install apache, command is apt-get install https right?
[13:57] <defaultro> httpd
[13:57] <Luyin> mernilio: perhaps to discuss that further we should query not to flood the channel with OT-stuff
[13:57] <mrrcp> ubuntu is the shiznet!
[13:57] <Base-Dev> defaultro, yes
[13:57] <defaultro> thanks
[13:57] <mernilio> Luyin: no problem!
[13:57] <Base-Dev> defaultro, sudp apt-get install apache2
[13:58] <Base-Dev> defaultro, *sudo
[13:58] <defaultro> how does it differ from https?
[13:58] <defaultro> my god, this irc client keeps correcting my spelling
[13:58] <defaultro> it's Colloquy client
[13:58] <defaultro> how is Apache2 different from httpd? Or do they install the same stuff?
[13:58] <Base-Dev> !offtopic | defaultro
[13:59] <defaultro> Base-Dev: you suggested Apache2 and now you're saying i'm off topic
[13:59] <Wiz_KeeD> cutie, now it shows on the top right Enable Wireless but it does not detect any network
[13:59] <Base-Dev> defaultro, u just asked
[13:59] <Wiz_KeeD> Same as I did before when I managed to hack it into working or something
[13:59] <defaultro> I asked because of both apt-get parameters were different
[14:00] <defaultro> I'm assuming that httpd will install Apache 1.x while Apache2 is the latest one
[14:01] <Wiz_KeeD> cutie?
[14:01] <Base-Dev> defaultro, please ask in #httpd
[14:02] <compdoc> I told you never to call me that in here
[14:03] <daftykins> compdoc: what's wrong cutie?
[14:03] <daftykins> :>
[14:03] <Base-Dev> defaultro, Ok, so u want so install httpd ok, then do that, sorry for that.
[14:03] <compdoc> heh
[14:03] <defaultro> yup but just wanted to know if apt-get install httpd will install 1.x or the latest
[14:04] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I have a break - where are you up to ? are you managing ?
[14:04] <Wiz_KeeD> Can someone please tell me how to see my wireless networks?
[14:04] <Slagwag> lets say i want to dual boot. i always run into problems modifying the boot config so that when I restart my computer that it boots into linux by default but i want to boot into windows primary on one computer. are other boot loaders recommended?
[14:04] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, cutie was nice enough to provide support into installing the wireless drivers
[14:04] <Wiz_KeeD> It's detected but the networks are not showing up at all
[14:04] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: not displaying broadcast networks has been a broadcom glitch before
[14:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: can you enter the details manually and connect ?
[14:05] <Wiz_KeeD> if you would be kind enough to tell me how
[14:05] <rypervenche> defaultro: httpd and apache2 are teh same thing, just different names depending on which distro you use.
[14:05] <nightdrever> i think i have too many start up items ?? can someine check i dont know which ones i can disable??
[14:05] <defaultro> got  it. Thanks rypervenche
[14:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: isn't there an option to define networks ?
[14:05] <nightdrever> http://imageshack.us/f/708/wyf5.png/
[14:05] <nightdrever> http://imageshack.us/f/12/mxlw.png/
[14:06] <Base-Dev> defaultro, httpd will install differant packages
[14:06] <defaultro> oh
[14:06] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, Create new wireless network?
[14:06] <Base-Dev> !find httpd | defaultro
[14:07] <defaultro> cool
[14:07] <Wiz_KeeD> at least the steps to install the software were ok ikonia ?
[14:07] <defaultro> !find apache2
[14:07] <Base-Dev> defaultro, I never tried installing httpd though, its always apache2
[14:07] <defaultro> k
[14:08] <cutie> Sorry Wiz_KeeD this isn't my main IRC client/account and I don't have a hilight log; I've been afk for 15 minutes. Did it work after reboot?
[14:08] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: that's the idea, create a wirless network
[14:08] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you for your support so far cutie!
[14:08] <Wiz_KeeD> I've managed to connect to the wireless network manually
[14:08] <jhutchins> The httpd virtual package is essentially a marker that other packages looking for any webeserver can look for.  All of the packaged web servers will mark it as installed.
[14:08] <Wiz_KeeD> And now it shows all the others...
[14:08] <Wiz_KeeD> :\
[14:09] <Wiz_KeeD> Wierd?
[14:09] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ok, so it appears it's just the old broadcast bug
[14:09] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: ha yeah that
[14:09] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: that's an old bug that I thought had gone away
[14:09] <Wiz_KeeD> broadcom never fails to impress aparently
[14:09] <cutie> It's like being back on 6.06 ;)
[14:09] <Wiz_KeeD> Now what will happen?
[14:09] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: that's it - you're up and working
[14:09] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: Honestly, if it's currently working, I would leave it well alone
[14:09] <Wiz_KeeD> What happens when I shut down my laptop and go home, i have to manually connect every time?
[14:09] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: reboot, see if it re-connects, see if it shows broadcast network, but you are "working" as far as I can see
[14:10] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no, it should remember and auto reconnect
[14:10] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: try it
[14:10] <Wiz_KeeD> remember this network to auto-connect, what about at home?
[14:10] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: No, it will save your manual connection, assuming you set it up in network manager
[14:10] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: do you have a different SID / network at home
[14:10] <Wiz_KeeD> yep
[14:10] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: There's nothing different about a manually defined wireless network to one it detected
[14:10] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: then it will either show it broadcasting, or you'll manually have to enter the details
[14:10] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: Either it'll detect your network and let you connect to it, or you'll have to set your home one up manually once
[14:11] <Wiz_KeeD> it's rather uncomfortable but no biggie if it works
[14:11] <ikonia> it's 10 seconds work - once
[14:11] <Wiz_KeeD> I remember my brother setting up my wireless drivers last time and it connected and saw connections everytime
[14:11] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: broadcom is a moving target sadly
[14:11] <Wiz_KeeD> What if I go to airports and such and need to search for wireless netoworks, see what's available and connect to them?
[14:12] <Base-Dev> is intel graphics dropping mir support?
[14:12] <Wiz_KeeD> and i don't have my phone to tell me the encription and names
[14:12] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you may have to see if iwcan can pick them up to give it a kick start, but hopefully it should now work
[14:12] <ikonia> Base-Dev: yes
[14:12] <ikonia> iwscan sorry
[14:12] <Wiz_KeeD> rebooting, brb
[14:12] <Base-Dev> ikonia, so we have to use xorg?
[14:12] <ikonia> Base-Dev: see what happens....
[14:12] <Base-Dev> ikonia, ok
[14:13] <PeerLesS> hello!
[14:13] <sabret00the> My dash (full screen glass thing) shows the same old applications, is there any way to switch it so it shows frequently used applications or applications that I pin there?
[14:15] <trijntje> sabret00the: which version of ubuntu are you using? It should show most recently used
[14:16] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, cutie. It does not detect networks and it's empty once more
[14:16] <Wiz_KeeD> I had to use cable to connect
[14:16] <willi_> sll
[14:16] <willi_>
[14:16] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: does it not auto connect to your manually configured network ?
[14:16] <Wiz_KeeD> no ikonia , and doesn't show the other networks either
[14:17] <sabret00the> trijntje: 13.10, it's had the same apps since installation (13.04). Libre Writer, Text Editor, Ubuntu One, Firefox, Help, etc
[14:17] <Wiz_KeeD> I just see the empty wireless simbol on top and see Wireless Enabled, nothing else
[14:17] <trijntje> sabret00the: you mean the side bar?
[14:17] <Wiz_KeeD> talk about rotten luck...
[14:18] <Wiz_KeeD> now what...
[14:18] <sabret00the> trijntje: nope, I mean the full screen thing after you click the home/ubuntu button
[14:19] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: out of interest, configure it again, does it work and do the other networks become visible again
[14:19] <trijntje> sabret00the: no, you can only pin programs to the side bar, and use the keyboard/mouse to navigate the full screen Dash
[14:19] <Base-Dev> Wiz_KeeD, do you have the drivers?
[14:20] <Wiz_KeeD> Base-Dev, ikonia and cutie helped me get them
[14:20] <Base-Dev> Wiz_KeeD, ok
[14:20] <Pessimist> How is the package called that installs firefox plugin that enables unity webapps that allows me to integrate various websites with unity?
[14:20] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, there might be a slight miscommunication here: Initially I went to networking->wireless->connect to network and typed the wi-fi here with encryption password etc
[14:20] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so not the icon in the top right ?
[14:21] <Wiz_KeeD> Now I click on top right and created a new wireless network that I connected to but the others do not show up
[14:21] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I'm going to have a quick scan on the boardcom docs and see if there is any info on this bug re-appearing
[14:21] <sabret00the> trijntje: If I need to go into the full screen dash and search for the same applications over and over, then surely it's not actually helping me. It's hindering me. Especially given that I'll never need nor use six of the default applications there with any regularity. That's shockingly bad.
[14:22] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, this is what I should have done in the first place? create a new on on the top right and connect to it? (although this is an abstract notion to me how you can create your own wireless network and connect to it)
[14:22] <trijntje> sabret00the: you can pin the programs you need on the side bar
[14:22] <trijntje> sabret00the: are you sure you are using version 13.10, that has not been released yet and is not stable
[14:23] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: doesn't matter to be honest,
[14:23] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: but it's interesting to see the different behaviour
[14:23] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, now i have disconnected from my created wireless network and all the others showed up including my created one...
[14:23] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: reboot - see if they are still present/your saved one is present
[14:23] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: Honestly, quit while you're ahead
[14:23] <Wiz_KeeD> what does that mean cutie ?
[14:24] <sabret00the> trinjntje: I have applications pinned to the side bar, however there are applications I don't require pinned there but use regularly. I'd like access to them more so than Libre Writer which I've yet to open on this machine. And yes, I done update-manager -d
[14:24] <Wiz_KeeD> okay ikonia
[14:25] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: It means, if it works, leave it
[14:25] <trijntje> sabret00the: I'm using 13.04 and the Dash shows most recently used applications. If you want, you can open the menu using Super/Windows + A, that should show more applications
[14:26] <trijntje> otherwise, check if zeitgeist is enabled, that is the service that should keep track of recently used files an programs. Go to system settings -> privacy
[14:27] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, exact same behaviour.I'd like to add just before it logs in I see on the right the wireless tab saying Diconnected from network
[14:27] <sabret00the> trijntje: Thanks, that's turned off and must be the cause of my issues. I'll turn it on and hopefully I can get the right programs to bubble up.
[14:27] <Wiz_KeeD> But still no wireless networks to be seen
[14:28] <trijntje> sabret00the: did you disable it or was it off by default? If it was by default, you should file a bug
[14:28] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: what is dissapointing
[14:29] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, sorry?
[14:29] <sabret00the> trijntje: It seems like something I would've done in an overzealous bid to disable the Amazon stuff back when I first reinstalled Ubuntu.
[14:29] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: that it's not holding your connection or listing available networks
[14:29] <Wiz_KeeD> I hear that
[14:29] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: the bugs show this was only really a big issue with the old fw-cutter stuff
[14:29] <Wiz_KeeD> I wouldn't know what to say or add at this point...
[14:30] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: a little research is needed a I feel, I'm having a look around now, it's a little tricky with broadcom though for obvious reasons
[14:30] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you have a working solution - although not idea, hang with it for the moment
[14:30] <Wiz_KeeD> this is preffered over 3rd party solutions or opensource drivers ikonia ?
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> If I go to additional drivers the one that Ubuntu suggests is still not activated, what is that any way?
[14:31] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: it depends on a.) the results of those solutions b.) what those solutions do
[14:31] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: they are not active as you've disabled them
[14:31] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: they are basically the popritary modules
[14:31] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: You rememebr the first package I asked you to install, and it gave errors so I asked you to install a different one?
[14:31] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: It was trying to install the first one, but failing on that error.
[14:32] <ikonia> cutie: which driver do you actually use in the end with Wiz_KeeD ?
[14:32] <ikonia> I missed part of the conversation
[14:32] <JuJuBee> I have a server that I use webmin on to do remote management.  For some reason the users and groups module does not contain any users that have ID above 1000.  Any ideas?  I tried #webmin, but no response in several hours.  Pretty dead channel
[14:32] <ikonia> JuJuBee: webmin is dead / unsupported on ubuntu
[14:33] <sabret00the> thanks again trijntje.
[14:33] <genii> JuJuBee: Webmin was removed from Ubuntu
[14:33] <Wiz_KeeD> I can give you the history or my bash ikonia
[14:33] <JuJuBee> Why removed?
[14:33] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: its fine cutir can respond
[14:33] <DJones> !webmin | JuJuBee
[14:33] <trijntje> sabret00the: you're welcome
[14:33] <ikonia> JuJuBee: bad tool, security holes, parts not compatible
[14:34] <JuJuBee> Oh...
[14:34] <genii> JuJuBee: The preferred interface is ebox/zentyal
[14:34] <JuJuBee> Too bad, I like it
[14:34] <ellipsis753> Hello. I've got an Ubuntu server on a cloud VPS. I'm charged for all bandwidth I use above a certain threshold. Can I have my website shutdown and warn me if the bandwidth usage gets too high?
[14:34] <JuJuBee> I will look into those genii, thanks
[14:34] <Johnny_Linux> i gotta hand it ti ikonia , he sure is on top of what software does what.
[14:34] <cutie> ikonia: installing firmware-b43-installer failed with an error including the line: Use b43 LP-PHY firmware (firmware-b43-lpphy-installer package) instead. So we did that :)
[14:35] <ikonia> cutie: thats interesting so that package actually failed, pointing you at a different package
[14:35] <ikonia> cutie: that's something I feel needs a little bit of research as that sounds a bit odd/sloppy
[14:36] <trijntje> ellipsis753: You'll probably have to write a script to do that yourself
[14:36] <cutie> ikonia: The real problem is that Jockey isn't correctly detecting his card, or its suggesting the wrong module
[14:37] <ikonia> cutie: yes, the detection is probably failing, I see what you're saying
[14:37] <JuJuBee> genii is one better than the other?
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> i've seen some jockey-kde errors in the log
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> cutie, I can try to install that again and paste the logs?
[14:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: kde ?
[14:37] <ellipsis753> trijntje, Ok. Thank you. It's not a common request then? How could I find out how much bandwidth has been used already?
[14:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I thought this was ubuntu
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> maybe i'm wrong sorry
[14:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: is it ubuntu or kubuntu
[14:38] <Wiz_KeeD> ubuntu, sorry
[14:38] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: is there kde errors or not ?
[14:38] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/8322960
[14:38] <Wiz_KeeD> it's from /var/log/jockey.log
[14:38] <Wiz_KeeD> with cat
[14:38] <jhutchins> ellipsis753: Your provider should have a monitoring utility that tells you how much bandwidth you've used.
[14:38] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: don't see anything about kde
[14:39] <genii> JuJuBee: Zentyal is just the commercial version of ebox
[14:39] <Wiz_KeeD> it was my mistake, bad memory
[14:39] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no problem, remeber though, try to only say "fact" - not memory/guessing
[14:39] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: it adds confusion and can lead to the wrong info
[14:40] <Wiz_KeeD> agreed, sorry
[14:40] <Wiz_KeeD> now what :(
[14:40] <Wiz_KeeD> Shall we try to install the proprietary drivers?
[14:40] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: research before rushing in
[14:40] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I'm having a prod - you've got a solution that allows you to work and buy time
[14:40] <trijntje> ellipsis753: I used to have  a script to do that, but I can find it
[14:40] <Wiz_KeeD> Those were suggested from the get-go no?
[14:41] <Wiz_KeeD> prod?
[14:41] <cutie> poke, stab, the ol' college try
[14:41] <Wiz_KeeD> :))
[14:42] <Wiz_KeeD> cutie, wouldn't trying to install the proprietary drivers and checking the logs + fixing be a good solution?
[14:42] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: yes, from my view they have worked better in some instances, but it varies from case to case.
[14:42] <Marlenee> how i search using "grep" to grep word from large files and sub folder like i search in all  "/" path  ?
[14:42] <Wiz_KeeD> we can always revert to this one if it's worse ikonia ?
[14:43] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: well, yes, but it requirs some planning
[14:43] <Wiz_KeeD> pfuu
[14:43] <ikonia> ?
[14:43] <cutie> Marlenee: find /path/ -type f | xargs grep "foo"
[14:43] <cutie> Marlenee: I use a similar pattern to that multiple times a day
[14:44] <Wiz_KeeD> You think we can do it ikonia ?
[14:44] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: sure it can be done, but remember the "not rushing in" part
[14:45] <Wiz_KeeD> btw ikonia your hunch was right, now opening/closing the network does not error anymore they were most likely connected
[14:45] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: as I said, you have a working solution at the moment which buys you some time while a little research is done
[14:45] <JuJuBee> genii also seems zentyal won't work with 13.04...
[14:45] <Wiz_KeeD> that is true yes, at least i'm not handcuffed
[14:45] <Wiz_KeeD> But the time I have i need to spend working which means I need to install software like bzr, python libraries, skype, dropbox
[14:46] <Wiz_KeeD> all of which come from standard repositories (except skype)
[14:47] <Wiz_KeeD> You say that I should not install applications even from the standard repositories until this is fully fixed ikonia ?
[14:48] <IamTrying> Which WebCam do you use for 13.04/ 13.10 64-bit? Where i need 24/7 camera capture. I used one which is crashing Ubuntu 7/7
[14:48] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: depends what you want to put on - I'd say as minimum as possible
[14:48] <IamTrying> Which one is reliable and stable for Ubuntu USB cameras? is there any recommend hardware list?
[14:49] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm making a list now ikonia : sudo apt-get install bzr poedit vim
[14:49] <Wiz_KeeD> so far
[14:49] <cutie> IamTrying: I've had sucess with Logitech cameras out-of-the-box on Ubuntu since around 2008 :)
[14:49] <JuJuBee> apt-get install ebox returns no candidate but zentyal-core replaced it.   However, docs online suggest that it only works with 12.04?
[14:50] <Wiz_KeeD> also need these http://pastie.org/8322992 :)
[14:50] <cutie> JuJuBee: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[14:50] <ellipsis753> trijntje, Thank you. It's fine, I can make a script. It seems that digitalocean doesn't let me find out how much bandwidth is used yet but apparently a program called vnstat can do that instead. Thank you for your help. :)
[14:50] <JuJuBee> cutie: 13.04
[14:50] <cutie> !info ebox raring
[14:51] <genii> !info zentyal raring
[14:51] <cutie> !info zentyal-core raring
[14:51] <cutie> JuJuBee: What error do you get when trying to install zentyal-core ?
[14:51] <mattkruse> !info grep
[14:51] <mattkruse> !info ack-grep
[14:51] <JuJuBee> cutie: I didn't try.  A forum post suggested it doesn't work
[14:52] <JuJuBee> I will try
[14:52] <cutie> JuJuBee: if it doesn't work, we can try to sort it out
[14:52] <JuJuBee> man tons of depends...
[14:52] <cutie> JuJuBee: They're all tiny perl libraries I'd imagine
[14:53] <JuJuBee> yes
[14:53] <Monday> anyone else have problems installing the adobe flash plugin?
[14:53] <cutie> !anyone
[14:53] <cutie> Monday: Are you getting any errors? What Ubuntu version are you using? What method did you use to try to install it?
[14:54] <Monday> hi cutie so how cute are you? pix :P
[14:54] <JuJuBee> cutie: installer wants https port.  If I already have https site should I choose another port or is it ok to use 443 for zentyal also?
[14:54] <cutie> JuJuBee: You must choose another port, they can't both use 433
[14:55] <cutie> JuJuBee: I'd recommend you change zentyal's port rather than http, since web browsers expect https on port 443
[14:55] <JuJuBee> does port # matter?
[14:55] <Monday> cutie yeah basically it says it can't connect to the adobe server, i tried the flashplugin-installer with synaptic and termamina both can't connect, i'm using 12.04
[14:55] <cutie> JuJuBee: No, as long as its not being used. Use something high, like 10000 or 8080 or 4040
[14:56] <cutie> I'm all about 4040 for web interfaces
[14:56] <JuJuBee> I run a streaming music server on 4040
[14:56] <JuJuBee> Ill use 4043
[14:56] <cutie> JuJuBee: Subsonic :D
[14:56] <JuJuBee> Kind of like 443 so should be easy to remember... Yes
[14:56] <Monday> JuJuBee what kind of music are you hosting?
[14:56] <cutie> Monday: Can you please put the full output of running the command "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[14:56] <cutie> Monday: obn http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:57] <JuJuBee> I have everything from classical to hard rock/ hip-hp / country etc...
[14:57] <saho> S
[14:58] <Monday> cutie you mean installer not nonfree
[14:58] <cutie> Monday: Is that so.
[14:58] <Monday> JuJuBee what is the ip to your server, i actually need flash so that i can listen to radio from TuneIn
[14:58] <cutie> Wait Monday I think you're actually right, it has legtimately been years since I've used Ubuntu
[14:58] <JuJuBee> cutie: http://pastebin.com/Z3JgEDNQ
[14:59] <JuJuBee> Monday: I have a fairly slow connection, so I don't share my music... sorry.
[14:59] <cutie> JuJuBee: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:59] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> cutie, what did you mean when you said I should quit while i'm ahead?:))
[14:59] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: it's working - take that as enough
[15:00] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> ah that's what he meant
[15:00] <ulrich_> hello i have a problem with installing wine on ubuntu 12.10 can someone out there help me
[15:00] <cutie> Wiz_KeeD: It means, if it works, leave it
[15:00] <cutie> ulrich_: What problem is that?
[15:01] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> I think it's even enough to make it try to connect ti any random.wireless network and it.might broadcast then
[15:01] <ulrich_> i downloaded a version of it there are somme files to be move but i moved it with no success
[15:02] <cutie> ulrich_: Use the Ubuntu Software Centre to search for Wine. Select the package and install it
[15:03] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: just give a little time for me to dig out some research on it
[15:03] <JuJuBee> cutie:  what is the Test Suite Blacklist ?
[15:03] <JuJuBee> Something about configuring checkbox?
[15:03] <ikonia> test suite blacklist ?
[15:03] <cutie> JuJuBee: I have no idea, what context are you seeing it?
[15:03] <cutie> JuJuBee: I can't help you with configuiring your app...
[15:03] <JuJuBee> During the dpkg-reconfigure -a it comes up
[15:04] <cutie> JuJuBee: It's just part of the setup wizard for that app
[15:04] <cutie> JuJuBee: I guess check the documentation for the app
[15:04] <cutie> JuJuBee: Or see if you can leave it blank
[15:04] <Wiz_KeeD> we won't attempt the installing of the proprietary now ikonia ?
[15:05] <JuJuBee> cutie: seems it is part of ubuntu?  I never installed it specificaly
[15:05] <cutie> JuJuBee: No, the zentyal setup wizard is asking you a question.
[15:06] <cutie> JuJuBee: I don't know what "test suite blacklist" is in this context, you'd have to ask the zentyal people
  the  README  file actually gave me the directories to follow,the reply from the system was "mv" can not perform the required action
[15:07] <JuJuBee> cutie, no, it was part of the dpkg-reconfigure... some packages must have not gotten configured
[15:08] <cutie> ulrich_: Please stop what you're doing, and install Wine in the supported method, using the Software Centre or with the command "sudo apt-get install wine"
[15:08] <JuJuBee> cutie: ok reconfigur done
[15:08] <cutie> JuJuBee: OK now it's installed :)
[15:08] <JuJuBee> cutie: seems to be, how to I access it?
[15:09] <ulrich_> curti : thank you
[15:09] <cutie> JuJuBee: well I don't know... I've never used it :)
[15:12] <Wiz_KeeD> cutie, since I won't be doing much today and i have a decent working solution, would you give me the courtesy of explaining step by step what we did from ubungu language to english? :D
[15:14] <maul> hi, iv used "update-rc.d ssh defaults" in attempt to get ssh-server to start on boot. i see it both init.d/ and /etc/defaults, but the service does not start automatically. i have used /etc/network/interfaces to successfully start dhcp wireless connection on startup. any pointers?
[15:15] <cutie> maul: What Ubuntu version?
[15:15] <maul> 12.04
[15:15] <cutie> maul: Did you install it with something like apt-get install openssh-server? Because that package always starts ssh by default.
[15:16] <Wiz_KeeD> still there cutie ?
[15:16] <maul> cutie: i did install it that way.
[15:16] <cutie> maul: What makes you think it isn't starting at boot?
[15:16] <cutie> maul: Is it just that you can't connect to it?
[15:17] <maul> cutie: i cant ssh in and service ssh status shows fail
[15:17] <maul> and once i run service ssh start i can ssh in
[15:17] <cutie> OK that's pretty conclusive
[15:18] <cutie> maul: did you do sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults
[15:18] <maul> yes, but as root so no sudo
[15:18] <Wiz_KeeD> oh I got to get my ssh key sas well, forgot
[15:18] <maul> but i dont have any parameters set in the file
[15:18] <JuJuBee> cutie: doesn't look like port 4043 is open
[15:18] <maul> the only thing in there is OPTS= [blank]
[15:18] <cutie> JuJuBee: Is the application running? is it configured to listen on that port?
[15:19] <cutie> maul: I'd just do    sudo apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server
[15:19] <JuJuBee> cutie: I configured it on port 4043, but a restart still not showing it
[15:19] <maul> cutie: okay .. trying now
[15:19] <cutie> JuJuBee: Is the application actually running? I don't know what it does so I can't really help you with the specifics of how to configure it
[15:21] <JuJuBee> I tried service zentyal start wtih sudo
[15:21] <JuJuBee> cutie but a ps aux | grep zentyal or ebox returns nothing
[15:22] <cutie> JuJuBee: sudo service zentyal status
[15:22] <Wiz_KeeD> cutie, is everything ok?
[15:22] <JuJuBee> cutie: not a valid command
[15:22] <msata> hello all
[15:23] <Wiz_KeeD> Why do I have the suspicion that cutie ignored me :)
[15:24] <jgk> hi all
[15:24] <msata> I have an SD card that is at '/dev/mmcblk0' i am trying to write an image using DD command to it but out of space, even thou the card has more space availabe? Any ideas?
[15:24] <Pessimist> why some programs have different scroll bars that look like windows 98 ones? For example, skype? And how do you fix this?
[15:25] <maul> cutie: when i do the update default command i get 3 lines of output along the lines of "insserv: warning current stop runlevels of script ssh ovverides LSB defaults" ... is that cool?
[15:25] <maul> *normal
[15:25] <cutie> Pessimist: That depends on the graphical toolkit that was used to develop the application. You can't "fix" it
[15:25] <maul> not cool cuz the shits not working. but
[15:25] <cutie> maul: You don't have to do the update default, if you do "sudo apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server" it will start at boot
[15:26] <msata> I have an SD card that is at '/dev/mmcblk0' i am trying to write an image using DD command to it but out of space, even thou the card has more space availabe? Any ideas?
[15:26] <maul> right and i think that reinstall does the update command because i see the same output
[15:27] <lotia> hi all. when attempting to 'sudo gem install bundler', I get an error. Posted at https://gist.github.com/lotia/6552188
[15:27] <lotia> apologies if this has been asked to death now
[15:28] <cutie> lotia: Is your system behind a proxy server?
[15:29] <lotia> cutie no it isn't. it's an instance at AWS within a VPC but has direct connection to net.
[15:29] <cutie> I see AWS... the problem is the firewall ("securitu group"_
[15:30] <cutie> lotia: Can you just also check you have libssl-dev installed - "sudo apt-get install libssl-dev"
[15:30] <defaultro> hi folks, which should I pick here? I'll be installing it on Vmware Fusion on my mac os machine - http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[15:31] <cutie> defaultro: How much RAM are you going to give to the VM?
[15:31] <cutie> defaultro: Ehh actually. Install the 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD
[15:31] <defaultro> it's only going to be for testing
[15:31] <lotia> cutie: already installed
[15:31] <defaultro> it will only be used by me
[15:31] <cutie> defaultro: Either Desktop CD will be fine in that case
[15:31] <defaultro> cool
[15:31] <defaultro> thanks :)
[15:31] <lotia> also I can access other external locations without issue
[15:31] <msata> I have an SD card that is at '/dev/mmcblk0' i am trying to write an image using DD command to it but out of space, even thou the card has more space availabe? Any ideas?
[15:32] <defaultro> cutie: should I choose PC or 64-bit PC
[15:32] <cutie> defaultro: It doesn't matter, unless you're only running 32 bit Mac OSX (in that case you would have to choose the 32 bit version)
[15:32] <defaultro> got it
[15:32] <defaultro> let me verify my mac
[15:33] <defaultro> I'll download 64 bit then
[15:34] <ch01a> will ubuntu 13.10 have a 3.10 kernel?
[15:34] <Increase> Hello errbody
[15:34] <ch01a> also, is there a planned support for this kernel?
[15:34] <cutie> ch01a: it'll be 3.11
[15:34] <Ari-Yang> ch01a, no I think it will have 3.11....
[15:34] <defaultro> maybe I can choose Server install since I am mimicking Amazon's Ubuntu images
[15:34] <ch01a> cutie, Ari-Yang: Thankyou!
[15:34] <cutie> defaultro: if you use the server, be aware you won't have any kind of graphical interface
[15:34] <defaultro> yup
[15:35] <Increase> What's the best way to get a persistent file for live USB. I'm trying to use the pen drive linux one, but it doesn't work even though I set the meter over to full.
[15:35] <cutie> defaultro: However, yes, that'll be very very similar to what EC2 uses
[15:35] <Ari-Yang> ch01a, yw... if you want you could install kernel 3.11 yourself
[15:35] <defaultro> awesome! )
[15:35] <defaultro> :)
[15:35] <Ari-Yang> ch01a, you can install it from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-saucy/
[15:36] <ch01a> Ari-Yang: I thought since 3.10 supposed to be long term supported then ubuntu might also support it
[15:36] <hs366>  can i ask a very basic Q plz ?
[15:36] <Ari-Yang> !ask | hs366
[15:36] <cutie> You may ask another question, hs366
[15:37] <hs366> ok :D
[15:37] <msata> I have an SD card that is at '/dev/mmcblk0' i am trying to write an image using DD command to it but out of space, even thou the card has more space availabe? Any ideas?
[15:38] <subcool> how to you mount a filestystem?
[15:38] <cutie> msata: Can you just show us the exact command you use?
[15:38] <hs366> how can i get ls from other drives in command line /dev/sda* ??
[15:38] <subcool> im on a liveusb, and need to mount the local filesystem to fix it
[15:38] <cutie> subcool: mount /path/to/device /path/to/mountpoint
[15:38] <subcool> thanks
[15:38] <hs366> i can only know the fdisk -l show the dev information
[15:38] <subcool> i thought it was more complicated
[15:38] <cutie> hs366: You need to mount the filesystem on the partition, to a mountpoint. Then you browse the mount point
[15:39] <hs366> ok
[15:39] <cutie> hs366: find the device name with fdisk -l, (say it's /dev/sda2) then go "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt" and it will be mounted under /mnt
[15:39] <Brombomb> I've created some Custome Application Launchers in gnome, and I'm trying to find them from the command line.  Any idea where they are stored?
[15:39] <subcool> ok.. yeah cutie- no.. i needa step furhter
[15:39] <cutie> subcool: Step back then, what are you trying to fix?
[15:39] <hs366> ok
[15:39] <hs366> thx
[15:40] <subcool> i have to reinstall my graphics..
[15:40] <msata> cutie: sudo dd if NEWSD.img of=/dev/mmclbk0      --- it returns dd: writing to '/dev/mmclbk0': no space left on device
[15:40] <msata> any ideas?
[15:40] <cutie> subcool: I think if you try to do that from the LiveCD you will have a bad time
[15:40] <subcool> i had installed the ATI version, which messed me up bad. so - i removed them, now i hve to install the ubuntu version
[15:41] <subcool> cutie: nah- ill be fine
[15:41] <subcool> i just have to log in as the local user
[15:41] <Increase> What's the best way to get a persistent file for live USB. I'm trying to use the pen drive linux one, but it doesn't work even though I set the meter over to full.
[15:41] <subcool> i know what i have to do- just not how to get to it
[15:41] <subcool> I need to mount/login as the local user on its partition..
[15:41] <cutie> subcool: It's not as simple to do that from a LiveCD as you'd like
[15:41] <cutie> subcool: The best would be to select Recovery Mode from the boot menu
[15:42] <Pessimist> msata, there has to be = after if. And I'm guessing that you don't need that 0 at /dev/mmclbk0
[15:42] <Pessimist> msata, post results of lsblk
[15:42] <cutie> subcool: Anyway the command you want if you want to use the liveCD is "man chroot"
[15:42] <subcool> man.. lol-
[15:42] <subcool> i;ve used recovery - its refusing to setup my network
[15:42] <cutie> subcool: Do you use a wireless network?
[15:43] <subcool> no
[15:43] <cutie> subcool: I think you have to specifically choose the option to "drop to a root prompt with networking"
[15:44] <subcool> cutie: close, but no- there is two options, root shell, and moutn networking. the network setup isnt working
[15:44] <subcool> i hateman pages
[15:45] <subcool> how do i do this?
[15:45] <subcool> sudo chroot /media/Mediaserver
[15:47] <MraMaria> Hi. I get this invalid rule at boot from /etc/udev/rules.d, corresponding to a digital voice recorder not installed properly and so i decided not to use it on this system. Can I just remove that rule file? ('41-ovdr.rules:1') Or its contents?...
[15:48] <raving> Hello everybody. I'm using the fglrx package for my FirePro W7000, and was wondering if anybody else has noticed that the driver magically stopped supporting it after 9.010?
[15:48] <msata> cutie: sudo dd if=NEWSD.img of=/dev/mmclbk0      --- it returns dd: writing to '/dev/mmclbk0': no space left on device
[15:48] <raving> Using fglrx-updates doesn't seem to fix this, either
[15:48] <msata> any ideas?
[15:49] <raving> MraMaria: I don't see why not. If you're paranoid about it you could move it to /root first
[15:49] <Pessimist> msata, remove that 0, run this: sudo dd if=NEWSD.img of=/dev/mmclbk
[15:50] <MraMaria> raving: I'm trying to tweak bootup errors/warnings/(etc..)... The contents of the file are: SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", SYSFS{idVendor}=="07b4", SYSFS{idProduct}=="020d", ACTION=="add", GROUP="audio", MODE="0664"
[15:50] <msata> pessimist: i tried that it didn't work
[15:50] <Increase> What's the best way to get a persistent file for live USB. I'm trying to use the pen drive linux one, but it doesn't work even though I set the meter over to full.
[15:51] <raving> MraMaria: I haven't done stuff with udev in a while, but if you're not using it, all it would do is remove the rule which you're not using anyway
[15:51] <raving> And presumably is not being added to udev
[15:52] <Pessimist> msata, Are you sure write protection isn't on? Try unmounting /dev/mmclbk0 and deleting all partitions and then try again.
[15:52] <Pessimist> msata, As I've said, lsblk output would be great
[15:52] <MraMaria> raving: raving. thanks a lot. so i do have to move it first to /root and then 'rm 41-ovdr.rules', isn't it?
[15:52] <defaultro> hi folks, I installed Server version. What is the root password?
[15:53] <raving> defaultro: IIRC the root password is either scrambled or the account is disabled
[15:53] <defaultro> ok, it didn't ask me to create an account
[15:53] <raving> defaultro: but anybody in the adm group should be able to sudo
[15:53] <Increase> defa
[15:53] <defaultro> yup Increase
[15:54] <Increase> defaultro: it's probably root
[15:54] <Increase> or admin
[15:54] <defaultro> ok, i'll try, i tried toor earlier
[15:54] <Increase> or 1234
[15:54] <defaultro> both failed
[15:54] <Increase> Idk then. www.google.cm
[15:55] <jhutchins> !root
[15:56] <raving> defaultro: if you don't have a restricted account on your new installation you can pop the CD back in and drop to shell
[15:56] <raving> mount, than chroot
[15:56] <raving> er,r then
[15:56] <defaultro> k
[15:56] <defaultro> i guess, I'll just delete it and reinstall. I won't choose Easy Install
[16:00] <Hubbadubba> Hubbadubba & Hello, does anyone know anything about iptables and C++, in Ubuntu 13.10?
[16:00] <unknown101> How can i fix a usb keyboard that doesn't support ubuntu??(drivers)
[16:01] <ikonia> unknown101: its rare that a keyboard won't work
[16:01] <ikonia> unknown101: is it a special keyboard ?
[16:02] <defaultro> so apt-get -y install apache2 will install apache without any prompts
[16:02] <unknown101> well at the begin it worked (i dual booted ubuntu with windows) after i single boot ubuntu and its not working
[16:02] <unknown101> i formatted my computer and single bootted ubuntu
[16:03] <ikonia> unknown101: the fact that it works suggests it's not a "driver" problem,
[16:03] <ikonia> unknown101: do things like caps lock light come on /off
[16:03] <unknown101> the keyboard is a professional keyboard gaming keyboard and it has the letter light
[16:04] <unknown101> (if you can type its on if not its off)
[16:04] <jihad> jihad
[16:04] <ikonia> unknown101: does it like up
[16:04] <unknown101> nope
[16:04] <ikonia> light even
[16:04] <ikonia> unknown101: it's usb right ?
[16:04] <unknown101> yes
[16:04] <ikonia> unknown101: ok, so it sounds like one of two things
[16:04] <unknown101> i am using the other keyboard right now with my other keyboard
[16:04] <ikonia> unknown101: 1.) the keyboard is broken 2.) the usb ports on your ubuntu machine are not working
[16:05] <ikonia> unknown101: can you prove/disprove either of those ?
[16:05] <jihad> haha:P
[16:05] <unknown101> the keyboard is almost brand new
[16:05] <ikonia> unknown101: brand new doesn't mean it's not broken
[16:05] <unknown101> and it stopped working after i single bootted ubuntu
[16:05] <unknown101> so its not working
[16:05] <ikonia> that could just be a co-incidence as it was working with ubuntu
[16:05] <ikonia> unknown101: can you try it in a different machine
[16:05] <unknown101> no :(
[16:05] <ikonia> unknown101: as it sounds like you are using a different keyboard with ubuntu now so that means the usb ports are working
[16:05] <unknown101> yes
[16:06] <unknown101> its plugged in the same port
[16:06] <unknown101> the other was
[16:06] <ikonia> unknown101: so it sounds like the keyboard may have had a failure
[16:06] <defaultro> which is preferred way of installing Apache, apt-get or tasked?
[16:06] <defaultro> taskel
[16:06] <ikonia> defaultro: doesn't matter
[16:06] <jhutchins> unknown101: Look for a "legacy USB or Legacy Keyboard" setting in your bios.
[16:06] <defaultro> what about if LAMP
[16:06] <unknown101> ok let me reboot
[16:06] <unknown101> BRB
[16:06] <ikonia> defaultro: what about it ?
[16:07] <defaultro> is taskel easier to use?
[16:07] <ikonia> defaultro: it's up to you, do you find it easier to use ?
[16:07] <defaultro> i need it to be fully automatated
[16:07] <ikonia> defaultro: it's just installing a few packages, it's the same thing
[16:07] <defaultro> i've only tried apt-get -y
[16:07] <ikonia> defaultro: it's which ever method YOU like and find easier
[16:07] <defaultro> ikonia: I'm writing a script that will install LAMP
[16:07] <ikonia> so ?
[16:08] <ikonia> that doesn't change anything
[16:08] <defaultro> ok
[16:08] <defaultro> so I guess, if apt-get, there will be more commands than taskel
[16:08] <jhutchins> defaultro: There is no "LAMP".
[16:08] <defaultro> i'm not sure if taskel is old. It's first time i heard it
[16:09] <jihad> anyone else sick of these apple adds? they still seem adamant on saying mac has no viruses....lol
[16:09] <defaultro> jhutchins: sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[16:09] <jhutchins> defaultro: Is that perl LAMP or PHP LAMP?
[16:09] <defaultro> but if apt-get, I'll have apt-get https, mysql-server, php, etc
[16:10] <ikonia> jihad: this isnothing to do with ubuntu, so please don't comment on it
[16:10] <tara_> hi there. I have a minor issue getting sound to work on 13.04 with this laptop.  SOlution would be to use the element "Exchange Front Surround" in alsamixer butt I cannot trigger an evnt with the element.. does anyone have an idea
[16:10] <defaultro> Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP
[16:10] <ikonia> jihad: the topic of this channel is ubuntu support discussion, please try to keep to that
[16:10] <jhutchins> defaultro: Perl is just as valid.
[16:10] <jihad> oops wrong channel..... soz
[16:10] <ikonia> jihad: no problem
[16:11] <adac> How can I test from command line if i can access a samba share?
[16:11] <ikonia> adac: mount it ?
[16:11] <ikonia> adac: or smbclient ?
[16:11] <defaultro> i apt-get tasksel, it told me it's already installed :) So it's part of Ubuntu?
[16:11] <genii> adac: smbclient, usually
[16:11] <GuidoPallemans> is anyone elses rhythmbox album artwork all shuffled up?
[16:12] <subcool>         if someone can help me with chroot, ill be around.. just pm me or something to grab my attention. ive followed a couple guides..and im getting no where. I need to mount a local system via chroot while on a LIVEUSB>
[16:12] <adac> ikonia, mounting I already tried. Doesn't work with the guest account it seems. So now I wanted to see if a guest can even see the samba share of if this has something to with mounting iteself
[16:12] <adac> genial, ikonia trying smbcleint
[16:12] <defaultro> i read yesterday that it is not possible to uninstall applications installed by tasksel. Is it true?
[16:13] <genii> adac: Might want to run testparm on the host machine to see if your config is OK
[16:14] <ikonia> defaultro: you can uninstall just fine, they are just packages
[16:14] <defaultro> ikonia: using tasksel to uninstall or using apt-get remove?
[16:15] <ikonia> defaultro: you'll need to use apt-get
[16:15] <defaultro> oh ok
[16:15] <defaultro> so how will i find out the applications that tasksel will install like when installing lamp-server? It's a combination of different apps
[16:15] <adac> genii, testparm seems to be fine: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6552748 I can also mount the share via the user. Only with the guest user it doesn't seem to be possible to mount it. But it should.
[16:16] <ajay__> how to filler/view install program through terminal ?
[16:16] <ajay__> for example i need to some networking programms
[16:17] <defaultro> am I right that apt-get is just an alias for aptitude?
[16:17] <BluesKaj> defaultro, no
[16:17] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, still there?
[16:17] <BluesKaj> !aptitude
[16:18] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: yes
[16:18] <BluesKaj> defaultro,^
[16:18] <defaultro> ok
[16:18] <defaultro> Thanks BluesKaj
[16:18] <ajay__> i need to find some networking program already installed on my system how could i ????????????
[16:18] <defaultro> I was researching how to remove lamp-server installed by tasksel
[16:18] <ikonia> ajay__: which program ?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> defaultro, all package managers use dpkg
[16:18] <Wiz_KeeD> I have arrived home, the wireless did not start and neither did going to networking and typing in the network manually worked, I had to create a new wireless conection, disconnect then go to networking and type. it's really strange
[16:19] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: it seems like the card is not initialising properly until you make a connection
[16:19] <defaultro> BluesKaj: so how do we figure out what packages are installed using this command? sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[16:19] <Wiz_KeeD> i also saw a usb error on boot ikonia :(
[16:20] <Wiz_KeeD> brb see if i can snapshot it
[16:20] <defaultro> is it possible to specify a date with dpkg --get-selections?
[16:20] <ajay__> ikonia : i dont know program but i wanna search program related to networking installed in my system.
[16:20] <ikonia> ajay__: it doens't work like that if you don't know the name of the program
[16:20] <defaultro> like dpkg --get-selections --only-show-installed-today
[16:20] <ikonia> ajay__: open software center and look in the networking groups
[16:20] <BluesKaj> defaultro, using that command will either ask to install the pkg or show it's already installed
[16:20] <Monday> hello, how do you add the ppa for the newest version of Firefox? thanks
[16:20] <ikonia> !ppa | Monday
[16:21] <ikonia> Monday: be aware though, people will probably ignore your support requests once you start using PPA's
[16:21] <defaultro> i know i really wouldn't uninstall it. It's just nice to learn what it installs especially I'm doing some testing since I'm mocking an EC2 and CLoudformation
[16:21] <ajay__> ikonia can this kinda filteration.can be used through terminal
[16:21] <ikonia> ajay__: I'm not sure if apt-cache works on groups
[16:22] <ikonia> ajay__: what functionality do you need ? what sort of program
[16:22] <Monday> ikonia do you know which is the ppa for the newest updated versions of Firefox?
[16:22] <ikonia> Monday: there are many PPA's
[16:22] <defaultro> is it possible to display installed packages reported by dpkg in date order?
[16:22] <ikonia> Monday: all with different quality/versions of software in there, I advise VERY strong caution when using
[16:23] <ajay__> ikonia : like editor group contains all editor nano , gedit etc
[16:23] <ikonia> ajay__: what software do you need, what do you need it to do
[16:23] <Monday> ikonia what is the repository address for ubuntu backports?
[16:24] <ikonia> Monday: it should be in your sources.list already ,just need to uncomment
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> Monday, You have the FF official release through the repos
[16:24] <Monday> yeah, but i want the newer version, to get new features and security updates and stuff
[16:24] <defaultro> I found another answer, sudo apt-get purge mysql-server apache2 php5
[16:24] <ikonia> Monday: what newer features do you need ?
[16:24] <defaultro> the other one I found uses apt-get remove
[16:24] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, the error did not display on boot once more but the problem persists
[16:24] <ikonia> Monday: blindly updatin for a bigger version number is a big risk
[16:25] <defaultro> so which is a better approach, remove or purge?
[16:25] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I'm not surprised, I don't expect it to magically start working
[16:25] <ikonia> defaultro: I suggest reading up on apt-get and seeing what the differnet options do
[16:25] <defaultro> k
[16:25] <kubanc> hellow! which process is for keyboard? I would like to put it into caffeine so my computer wouldn't go into idle state
[16:25] <ajay__> i recently install a program for network bandwidth similar to htop .. i forgot the name of it but i thinks so if i can filter the installed program related to networking than i will got all program similar to this in one go .
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> Monday, The repos provide the latest, any others are test models not necessarily more dafe or stable.
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> safe*
[16:26] <orionn> hey all
[16:26] <Monday> does ubuntu check the security of Firefox or do they just check if it is stable with Ubuntu?
[16:26] <defaultro> ah, purge is really clean while remove leaves the configuration
[16:26] <ikonia> Monday: they respond to security alerts
[16:27] <ikonia> Monday: it sounds like you are not checking security, just looking at version numbers
[16:29] <defaultro> what is debconf
[16:29] <Sylenthemp> Question: on launchpad, i see packages with versions like 2:2.7.3, 1: ..., etc. What does the first digit (before the ":") represent?
[16:30] <wizardaeon> hey guys
[16:31] <Monday> ikonia, i'm going to just use the older version just for you :)
[16:31] <ikonia> Monday: I don't care - so don't do it for me
[16:31] <ikonia> Monday: however it doesn't sound like you are really checking for security bugs, just version numbers
[16:31] <ikonia> Monday: it's totally up to you what you use.
[16:32] <otak> ajay__: I think you mean iftop or nload.
[16:32] <defaultro> folks, tasksel install lamp-server prompted me to enter db root password. This will not work for our automation. How do i automate it?
[16:32] <Increase> What's the best way to get a persistent file for live USB. I'm trying to use the pen drive linux one, but it doesn't work even though I set the meter over to full.
[16:33] <BluesKaj> defaultro, dpkg --list | grep ^ii.* | cut -d ' ' -f 3 | sort | less
[16:33] <ikonia> defaultro: you need to create a reponse file
[16:34] <BluesKaj> oops guess you guys have moved on , :)
[16:35] <Riptide> Hello
[16:35] <Guest52891> ciao a tutti
[16:36] <Guest52891> hello
[16:39] <defaultro> ikonia: ok. i'll do some research. Thanks!
[16:46] <theoneandonlu> Why so quiet on the western front?
[16:46] <jihad> ha always quiet on this irc
[16:47] <theoneandonlu> Nice username
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic | jihad
[16:47] <daftykins> jihad: nope it gets pretty busy
[16:48] <defaultro> BluesKaj: I ran it. What is the format of the output?
[16:48] <z3r0> is there any way to dump a terminal into a txt filr ?
[16:48] <z3r0> file*
[16:48] <defaultro>  what does ii mean?
[16:48] <MrSassyPants> so a recent update broke steam is there a workaround?
[16:49] <dtcrshr> MrSassyPants: what specifically
[16:49] <dtcrshr> come over to #steamlug
[16:50] <BluesKaj> defaultro, looks like it's just a list , hold the enter key down to continue
[16:50] <defaultro> is it based on when it was installed?
[16:51] <defaultro> ikonia: can't find any thing related to response file in tasksel
[16:51] <ikonia> defaultro: it's not tasksel - it's a debian package install response file
[16:51] <defaultro> ho
[16:51] <defaultro> oh
[16:52] <defaultro> so since it's mysql related, i should search for mysql response file
[16:52] <ikonia> defaultro: no
[16:52] <ikonia> defaultro: it's not mysql related
[16:52] <defaultro> what should I search for?
[16:52] <ikonia> defaultro: it's debian package releated, the package just happens to be mysql
[16:52] <defaultro> debian package response file
[16:52] <defaultro> got it
[16:53] <defaultro> i'll be reading this, http://serverfault.com/questions/228266/how-do-i-generate-a-response-file-to-be-used-with-apt-get-or-aptitude
[16:54] <abradley> I'm attempting to install a bin file and I'm getting this: http://i.imgur.com/yh1JjDx.png Is the problem that a directory doesn't exist?
[16:54] <defaultro> ubuntu doesn't have debconf-get-selections
[16:55] <vikator> i'm having problems with booting ubuntu 12.04, it was all working fine until i woke up in the morning and saw my computer hanging at grub rescue prompt(i did not shut it down). i booted from live cd, wiped out first cyl of disk, reinstalled the grub and still i get grub rescue prompt
[16:55] <Sylenthemp> Hello, an answer to this question would be very appreciated: on launchpad, i see packages with versions like 2:2.7.3, 1: ..., etc. What does the first digit (before the ":") represent?
[16:56] <EvilPanda> Hi i get a system error
[16:56] <defaultro> i have it now after running apt-get install debconf-utils
[16:56] <EvilPanda> There isnt a code..
[16:56] <daftykins> abradley: you've got a lot of system updates to install ;)
[16:57] <myth> please help me with hadoop ?
[16:57] <daftykins> myth: ask the question in full
[16:57] <daftykins> but maybe there's a hadoop channel
[16:58] <abradley> daftykins, sudo apt-get update doesn't update anything
[16:58] <myth> i want a code to get feed from the facebook and twitter in hadoop
[16:58] <EvilPanda> Its a diplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptdaemon/+bug/936122
[16:58] <daftykins> abradley: sure it does, it updates the package lists. after that you have to run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[16:58] <EvilPanda> duplicate*
[16:59] <abradley> oh. thanks for the input.
[16:59] <abradley> any idea what dist needs to be updated?
[17:00] <daftykins> abradley: running that command fully updates your 12.04 install
[17:00] <abradley> my bad, got it now,t hanks
[17:00] <daftykins> it installs the latest packages
[17:00] <abradley> thanks a lot for your help
[17:00] <myth> daftykins, i want a code to get feed from the facebook and twitter in hadoop
[17:01] <wilee-nilee> !patience | myth
[17:02] <daftykins> abradley: you'll need a restart after it's done too. for the thing you're installing though, are you sure that's the best way to do it? do they not have a guide that might explain what's going wrong? it looks like it's trying to run java from within the extracted folder
[17:02] <jay_> hello there all i'm new on ubunto :)
[17:03] <vikator> how can i find out which grub version i have installed?
[17:03] <abradley> daftykins, I am certain of nothing   :/    I am following the company's guide. Thanks for your input.
[17:03] <an3k> how come ubuntu 13.04 32-bit doesn't save window positions & sizes?
[17:03] <jay_> guys do u kno if paltalk can be run on linux ubunto?
[17:03] <daftykins> jay_: cool, do you use ubuntu too?
[17:03] <EvilPanda> Where can i get the plugins to play audio/video on ubuntu
[17:03] <EvilPanda> I need the mp3 ones
[17:03] <EvilPanda> and mp4
[17:03] <jay_> yeah id o
[17:03] <jay_> yeah i do
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> EvilPanda  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:03] <daftykins> EvilPanda: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:04] <wissam> Hi , am using kubuntu 13.04 and sometimes it freezes completely .in kubuntu 12.10 laptop freezes completely when enabling wireless in network manager an i solved it y by adding "noacpi" in boot option
[17:04] <jay_> install vlc player
[17:04] <myth> wilee-nilee ok , sorry for repeating my question
[17:04] <EvilPanda> I need to install them on a computer without internet
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> !offline | EvilPanda
[17:05] <EvilPanda> MonkeyDust: thanks
[17:05] <defaultro> ikonia: I figured it out :) Thanks a lot
[17:05] <ikonia> defaultro: great, well done
[17:05] <defaultro> I'll try it now. Hopefully it works
[17:07] <wissam> here is a part of output message http://pastebin.com/uT5KYBY7
[17:07] <entr0py> 12.04 LTS > 13.04
[17:08] <wissam> of dmesg*
[17:08] <entr0py> solves many problems for me.
[17:08] <EvilPanda> I cant find the package manager in system settings
[17:08] <EvilPanda> Its ubuntu 13
[17:09] <defaultro> it didn't work. It's still asking for a password
[17:11] <EvilPanda> "APT Chooser Which distribution do you have?" what do i choose for ubuntu 13?
[17:11] <ikonia> EvilPanda: ubuntu 13......as in 13.04 ?
[17:11] <ikonia> EvilPanda: or 13.10
[17:12] <EvilPanda> 13.04
[17:12] <ikonia> EvilPanda: then the distro is 13.04
[17:12] <EvilPanda> Maverick?
[17:13] <ikonia> EvilPanda: no, that's not the release name
[17:13] <EvilPanda> There Isnt distro numbers
[17:14] <ikonia> then it's raring ringtail
[17:16] <wissam> no one knows what does that mean http://pastebin.com/uT5KYBY7 ,my laptop sometimes freezes completely and i have to hardly restart it
[17:17] <defaultro> I got it workingg
[17:17] <defaultro> i was able to login too to  mysql :)
[17:18] <theperfectpunk> I removed ffmpeg from my system
[17:18] <daftykins> wissam: look up ACPI problems for your make + model laptop / computer - also look into disabling acpi
[17:18] <theperfectpunk> but when i run ffmpeg from terminal
[17:18] <theperfectpunk> it gives me mohit@mohit-pc:~$ ffmpeg
[17:18] <theperfectpunk> bash: /usr/bin/ffmpeg: No such file or directory
[17:18] <theperfectpunk> instead of the usual
[17:18] <daftykins> theperfectpunk: so you're confused that after removing a program it doesn't run?
[17:19] <theperfectpunk> try installing using sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[17:19] <Johnny_Linux> lol
[17:19] <theperfectpunk> nope
[17:19] <Johnny_Linux> took the words outta my mouth
[17:19] <defaultro> tasksel also didn't prompt me anymore with the password for mysql :D
[17:19] <theperfectpunk> there are traces of ffmpeg left
[17:19] <Johnny_Linux> in config ?
[17:19] <theperfectpunk> how do i get it show the usual message
[17:19] <theperfectpunk> yea
[17:20] <Johnny_Linux> you could delete that file
[17:20] <theperfectpunk> i mean there must be a file that specifies what to run at what command
[17:20] <Reginaldo> hola yo soy Reginaldo yo tengo verga muy lunga
[17:20] <Johnny_Linux> its a config file for re-installation purposes
[17:20] <Reginaldo> johnny
[17:20] <theperfectpunk> the command didn't get deleted
[17:20] <theperfectpunk> ffmpeg is still in the terminal
[17:21] <theperfectpunk> but it cannot find the executable
[17:21] <Johnny_Linux> logout and back in
[17:21] <theperfectpunk> that'll do it?
[17:21] <Reginaldo> UBUNTU NIGER FAGGOT SUCKS MICROSOFT IS BEST WINDOWS VISTA FOREVER
[17:21] <genii> wissam: Might want to try acpi=noirq  in grub and see if it helps. If not, probably better to turn it off with acpi=off
[17:21] <Johnny_Linux> anyway, im on the telly, bbiaf
[17:21] <daftykins> Johnny_Linux: fame!
[17:22] <wissam> ok thnx i will try it
[17:28] <neila> il sesto senso
[17:37] <wookey> how do I get an ubuntu 12.04 box to boot to grub menu so I can boot with init=/bin/sh?
[17:37] <wookey> I'm being deafault by all the shiny purple plymouth - is there a magic key?
[17:37] <wookey> defeated
[17:37] <Baohuahuauhw> HI, what is wrong with this command: netstat -at | grep '*.*.*.*' ?
[17:38] <ikonia> Baohuahuauhw: nothing
[17:39] <Baohuahuauhw> Why i dont receive any IPs?
[17:39] <ikonia> Baohuahuauhw: because you are grepping for * - not IP's
[17:39] <ikonia> Baohuahuauhw: it's matching the "*"
[17:39] <Tigger__> Hi, please could anyone help with this? -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6102565/
[17:39] <Baohuahuauhw> aha, how do grep "anything"."anything"? .........
[17:39] <Baohuahuauhw> to*
[17:39] <ikonia> Tigger__: you have run out of disk space
[17:39] <ikonia> Baohuahuauhw: you don't
[17:40] <Tigger__> ikonia: no I have about 75G left
[17:40] <ikonia> Baohuahuauhw: you can try to esapce the *
[17:40] <ikonia> Tigger__: sorry - read it wrong
[17:41] <Tigger__> no worries ikonia :)
[17:41] <Baohuahuauhw> any alternate way? Im using C++, so \ sign doesnt work
[17:41] <ikonia> Baohuahuauhw: not really as it can't know what numbers are IP and what are just numbers
[17:41] <ikonia> Baohuahuauhw: you could try to use regex
[17:41] <Baohuahuauhw> regex is ubuntu command?
[17:42] <ikonia> Tigger__: Hmm, I'm wondering it the e2fs complaints is in a package depend (I don't think so) or within the local apt database
[17:42] <ikonia> Baohuahuauhw: no, it's "regular expression"
[17:42] <ikonia> Baohuahuauhw: look at grep -x [regex]
[17:42] <joelwallis> Hi. I'm getting error messages when trying to mount a partition in my Ubuntu notebook.
[17:43] <Tigger__> ikonia: it let me do apt-get install zip ok with no errors
[17:43] <Baohuahuauhw> ok thx
[17:43] <joelwallis> How is possible to debug these type of things?
[17:43] <ikonia> Tigger__: yeah, because that's not referencing e2fsprogs
[17:43] <wookey> holding down shift doesn't work (either shift)
[17:43] <Tigger__> ikonia: I see :)
[17:43] <ikonia> Tigger__: I'm trying to debate if it's worth rebuilding the apt database
[17:44] <Tigger__> ikonia: I see
[17:44] <martinalex> hi, i have an instance of arpwatch running, but it actually does too much... i just want it to watch out for arp changes in the subnet i explicitly give to it - how can i manage that? (ignore anything but my subnet)
[17:45] <Tigger__> ikonia: I could try perhaps
[17:45] <ikonia> Tigger__: yeah, could be worth it, just make sure you backup the files first
[17:45] <unknown101> ika you are on?
[17:45] <unknown101> i had internet problems
[17:46] <Tigger__> ikonia: ok, how do I rebuild the apt data base?
[17:46] <unknown101> Why don't ubuntu recognize my main keyboard?
[17:46] <ikonia> unknown101: it seems like it's broken
[17:46] <ikonia> unknown101: unles you can now prove it's not
[17:47] <unknown101> When i get in bios with it.Its fully working but when ubuntu boot it stops
[17:47] <we6jbo> I opened up Text Editor and I'm missing the top menu bar from the frame
[17:47] <ikonia> Tigger__: you'll need to have a prod around in /var/lib/dpkg, I don't have an ubuntu box handy to check it
[17:47] <ikonia> unknown101: so it works in the bios - but fails in ubuntu ??
[17:47] <unknown101> yes ikonia we were talking before
[17:47] <unknown101> i had internet problems
[17:47] <ikonia> unknown101: and you've checked it currently works in the bios - this isn't "used" to work inthe bios, this is currently works in the bios
[17:48] <Tigger__> ikonia: ok, thank you very much for your help, I will try and let you know what happens :)
[17:48] <unknown101> bios settings are fine
[17:48] <ikonia> Tigger__: if you really get stuck, let me know and I'll boot an ubuntu box to help you properly
[17:48] <unknown101> ubuntu's problem
[17:48] <ikonia> unknown101: no - I didn't ask if the bios settings where fine, I asked if the keyboard works "now" in the bios
[17:48] <Sylenthemp> Hello, an answer to this question would be appreciated: On Launchpad, i see some packages in PPAs with version numbers like "2:2.7.3 ...". What does the first digit (the 2 before the ":") represent?
[17:49] <unknown101> it does...
[17:49] <Tigger__> ikonia: that is a very kind offer, thank you again :)
[17:49] <ikonia> unknown101: ok, that's good to konw,
[17:49] <ikonia> unknown101: so what is the make/model of the keyboard,
[17:49] <ikonia> Tigger__: no problem, let me know if you need a bit more detailed help
[17:49] <unknown101> give me 1 sec
[17:51] <Vellik> Greettings to everyone.
[17:51] <Tigger__> ikonia: will do my friend, Thanks :) you are a good egg :)
[17:51] <ikonia> Tigger__: no problem
[17:52] <hays> im getting a laptop with ubuntu preloaded. what's the easiest way to nuke this and put on xubuntu
[17:53] <ikonia> hays: download xubuntu - burn cd, boot cd, install xubuntu
[17:53] <trism> Sylenthemp: it is the epoch, see the Version section of: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html
[17:53] <daftykins> s/cd/USB/
[17:53] <hays> ikonia: so its best to start over
[17:53] <ikonia> hays: up to you
[17:53] <ikonia> hays: we have no idea what's on it or it's config
[17:54] <hays> hmm well i don't know either.. its whatever the ASUS EEEs ship with i think
[17:54] <mfaroukg> when I loaded the nvidia driver on the ubuntu and unity is not loaded. how to fix?
[17:54] <ikonia> hays: so it's up to you, trust their build/dont
[17:54] <hays> is there a way to strip out ubuntu and load xubuntu without starting over?
[17:55] <unknown101> iko sorry internet problems(my provider is updating)
[17:55] <unknown101> did you find anything?
[17:55] <ikonia> unknown101: I'm waiting for the keyboard make/model
[17:55] <daftykins> hays: you could try installing the package 'xubuntu-desktop' but i bet you'll get issues
[17:55] <unknown101> i sent it nevermind probably disconnecteded
[17:56] <seanh> Anyone know why my keybind stopped working (or how I can debug this)? I have `keycode 62 = F21` in ~/.Xmodmap (binds right shift to F21), it was working before but just stopped
[17:56] <hays> and there is also lubuntu
[17:56] <unknown101> [sharkoon] skiller gaming keyboard
[17:56] <unknown101> got it?
[17:56] <hays> but this thing has 2GB RAM probably good enough to trim down to xfce vs. going all the way to openbox
[17:56] <seanh> in compozconfig settings manager, I've bound f21 to launch the scale plugin, but it no longer works
[17:56] <ikonia> unknown101: http://www.sharkoon.com/?q=en/node/2180 read the last line
[17:56] <ikonia> unknown101: The keyboard is not compatible with Linux OS.
[17:57] <Sylenthemp> Thank you trism. So does a package with version number 2:2.7.3 necessarily have to differ from the same package with version number 1:2.7.3?
[17:57] <unknown101> FFS
[17:57] <seanh> In the bind key dialog in settings manager, pressing right shift does get picked up as F21 and appears to get bound, but pressing it doesn't trigger window scaling
[17:57] <mfaroukg> there is a conflict in the driver of the nvidia and the display/GLX/unity and the screen shows blind.
[17:57] <seanh> Hmm, no, ccsm is detecting right shift as shift now, so seems my xmodmap file stopped working for some reason?
[17:58] <trism> Sylenthemp: yes if you read a little farther, the epochs are compared first, so 1 < 2
[17:58] <Sylenthemp> ok, thank you trism.
[17:59] <unknown101> ikonia is it possible to make it support linux?
[17:59] <ikonia> unknown101: the vendor says it's not supported, I'm not wasting time on that
[18:00] <unknown101> the vendor is a mfer...
[18:00] <ikonia> unknown101: tone down the language, there is no need for it
[18:00] <ikonia> unknown101: the warning is clear on the website - you bought it, no-one but your fault
[18:00] <unknown101> anyway thanks for the help.I used to run windows 7....
[18:03] <Vellik> I'm using ubuntu 12.04 on a lapto with no dedicated graphics chipset. How should I proceed to configure my multi-seat, if I can't find xorg.conf file on /etc/x11?
[18:05] <Amis> Hello! I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS using the latest Wubi and each time during the first boot at "Verifying configuration" or something like that or says "No root filesystem is defined". Params: Windows 7 Pro N, tried installing in both Primary and Extended NTFS partition, using the desktop ISO of Ubuntu.
[18:06] <Amis> I successfully installed this release on an other laptop about half a year ago or so
[18:06] <Amis> How can I fix this?
[18:07] <EvilPanda> How can I tell if my systems amd64 or i386 arcitecture
[18:08] <Hubbadubba> HI, whats wrong with this grep command?: netstat -at | grep "[0-9]{0,3}\.[0-9]{0,3}\.[0-9]{0,3}\.[0-9]{0,3}
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> Amis, Wubi is a try out install is there a reason why you continue with these install?
[18:09] <Amis> wilee-nilee, purely because I would like to keep the current partition structure
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> EvilPanda  paste this line in a terminal        sudo dmidecode -t processor|grep capable
[18:09] <EvilPanda> thanks
[18:09] <Vellik> EvilPanda: if you have System Monitor, you can clearly see it.
[18:10] <EvilPanda> 64 bit
[18:10] <EvilPanda> ah thanks
[18:10] <Amis> Also extra info: my Windows 7 Pro N installation is pretty new (2 weeks)
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> Amis, wubi has very little users, and only one person I know of that can really help.
[18:11] <gordonjcp> Amis: wubi is not recommended
[18:12] <Amis> So I won't really get support for Wubi here?
[18:13] <defaultro> hey guys, what is easy_install?
[18:13] <Hubbadubba> amis wat yo question?..............
[18:13] <Vellik> Do I always need video card to configure multi-seat?
[18:13] <Amis> Hubbadubba: [20:05] <Amis> Hello! I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS using the latest Wubi and each time during the first boot at "Verifying configuration" or something like that or says "No root filesystem is defined". Params: Windows 7 Pro N, tried installing in both Primary and Extended NTFS partition, using the desktop ISO of Ubuntu.
[18:14] <genii> Vellik: Nope.
[18:15] <Amis> Accidentally closed window, sorry
[18:15] <daftykins> Amis: i would highly advise avoiding WUBI
[18:15] <Hubbadubba> the answer is 1. easy-> (Maybe 12.04 has some issues with wubi, and u could try 13.04 or something) or 2. hard -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1761521
[18:15] <EvilPanda> if its 64-bitcapable do i get the amd64 	download?
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> Amis, you would b better and more stable with it in a virtual.
[18:15] <daftykins> 13.04 doesn't allow WUBI afaik
[18:15] <Vellik> genii, do you know what file should I configure, once I can't find the xorg.conf at /etc/x11?
[18:16] <genii> Vellik: eg: xvfb
[18:16] <Amis> wilee-nilee, I would like to have the full speed of the hardware so virtual machine is a no-no
[18:16] <Hubbadubba> and 3. Try google, i dont think many is good on wubi here
[18:16] <genii> Vellik: If there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf you make one, and then it gets used
[18:16] <Amis> Following the no-wubi line: is it possible to initiate the instalation of wubi without using any external device (CD/DVD or external HDD) from Windows?
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> Amis, you don't have that with a wubi either
[18:17] <Vellik> I had that in my guts. Thank you so much, genii.
[18:18] <mjaime> hola
[18:18] <polt> Hi, i have a question about my ubuntu forums login.
[18:18] <genii> Vellik: np
[18:18] <polt> I can't log in because the email address that was set up with my username no longer works.
[18:18] <polt> I still know my username and password though.
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> polt try #ubuntuforums
[18:19] <polt> Okay.
[18:19] <polt> Thanks!
[18:20] <demy84> hello
[18:21] <Vellik> Amis. Installing it directly from Windows is tricky. I would sugest that you boot the device with the distro, it's not dificult at all.
[18:21] <demy84> hello
[18:21] <Vellik> *suggest
[18:21] <Amis> Vellik: please elaborate on this: "boot the device with the distro"
[18:22] <Amis> Right now I'm looking at an EasyBCD tutorial that lets me boot the ISO, that sounds like something I need right now
[18:23] <daftykins> Amis: you don't have a flash drive handy?
[18:23] <daftykins> this is 2013 after all
[18:23] <Amis> daftykins, unfortunately my equipment is miles away
[18:23] <designbybeck_> I've got a hp 2000-2c10dx Laptop, that gives me a Blank Screen after grub
[18:23] <designbybeck_> It had Windows 8 on it
[18:23] <Pessimist> If I want to replace empathy with pidgin because facebook chat is not working with empathy do I simply: sudo apt-get install pidgin && sudo apt-get purge empathy ?
[18:23] <Vellik> Amis: sorry, I didn't read from the begining, but if you downloaded and recorded the ISO image on a CD, DVD or Flash-drive, you may reboot your computer and press the key which will lead you to the boot devices so you cann choose the one with Linux.
[18:24] <daftykins> Vellik: reading up in future might save the help-ee some wasted time
[18:24] <designbybeck_> Trying to do a new install on hp 2000-2c10dx Laptop...but I get a blank screen ... when trying to boot
[18:24] <Amis> Vellik, yea as I said I don't have such external storage at hand right now
[18:26] <Vellik> Trying to help, daftykins. Maybe you can solve his case.
[18:26] <daftykins> nah i'm headed out
[18:26] <daftykins> but bear this in mind - if a job is worth doing it's worth doing well, not rushed in a half-assed way :D
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> Lol the ubuntnik philosopher
[18:28] <jhutchins> designbybeck_: Probably just not getting the graphics quite right.  You can try booting to single or to rescue (I can't remember which distros use which terminology).
[18:29] <designbybeck_> hey jhutchins The last system we did get it working, this is a new person and a nother latop
[18:29] <Vellik> daftykins, I'll remember that, the same way you should know just because you learnt a saying, doesn't mean you can use it in all the possible cases. What's your problem?
[18:29] <designbybeck_> We tried nomodeset and it started to boot, but then efxited
[18:29] <jhutchins> designbybeck_: Do some googling of your model and xorg; f you get into the console you can lspci -nn to get the GPU chipset.
[18:30] <jhutchins> designbybeck_: Again, google is your friend for this.  You may need something else like noapic or noacpi
[18:31] <jhutchins> designbybeck_: Too few of us here have an hp 2000-2c10dx to be useful.
[18:34] <eph3meral> how can I tell or test whether my nvidia drivers are installed correctly?
[18:34] <mediawork> hello
[18:34] <Vellik> Thought the community was meant for cooperation; but as I see, with all the Linux populatity growth, there is indeed a risk that some Linux versions, such as Ubuntu one, become with time a Windows like OS. And that shall happen, with help of users like daftykins. This is depressing.
[18:34] <Amis> I'll try a direct ISO boot with EasyBCD, thanks for the help
[18:35] <eph3meral> Vellik, take some prozac, carry on
[18:35] <eph3meral> or just go use slackware or something
[18:36] <designbybeck_> Thank you jhutchins I'll keep looking
[18:36] <Monday> is there a power-manager app that efficiently sets up the battery of a laptop correctly?
[18:36] <designbybeck_> Might try the alternative
[18:36] <eph3meral> Monday, there's not really any such thing as "correctly" there's only "right for your use case"
[18:36] <eph3meral> in presentation mode your power saver settings will be different than say if you're browsing reddit
[18:36] <Vellik> eph3meral: medicines mask the problems that still exist. I am not adept of your method of shutting the eyes and looking away.   I don't think so.
[18:41] <bazhang> Vellik, stop the name calling
[18:42] <Vellik> That why people will always switch to Linux for necessity, not for option: they don't feel welcome here. Think about that.
[18:43] <gordonjcp> Vellik: sounds like a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:43] <gordonjcp> oh well, hope the door didn't hit him as he left
[18:43] <eph3meral> anyway, I'd still like to know how to determine whether nvidia driver install was successful
[18:44] <eph3meral> I've been having some issues with various kernels, I have locked it down to minor v 27 iirc
[18:44] <dhaval2712> Hey I can't write into my windows share despite setting permissions properly on Windows and Linux
[18:45] <gordonjcp> dhaval2712: possibly it's mounted read-only?
[18:45] <dhaval2712> nope.
[18:45] <dhaval2712> -o user=dhaval,uid=1000,gid=1000,rw
[18:46] <Bittarman> anyone know how to get dual head working with two amd graphics adapters? I have one screen in each, and when I enable the second, it just gives a blank screen, with the default X cursor when I mouse onto it
[18:47] <Bittarman> it seems to be halfway there, but the desktop / unity does not seem to extend onto it correctly
[18:47] <Bittarman> additionally, xrandr does not list the monitor
[18:47] <unknown101> how to speed up my alfa usb network adapter
[18:49] <eph3meral> I've been having a strage "low rez" video issue with other kernels
[18:49] <jhutchins> !twinview
[18:51] <defaultro> Does ubuntu use chkconfig to enable start up of applications?
[18:52] <EvilPanda> I cant install packages
[18:52] <mfaroukg> please help solving the conflict between the nvidia driver and my ubuntu unity
[18:52] <EvilPanda> When i tey to the install button is greyed out
[18:52] <EvilPanda> try*
[18:52] <unknown101> mfarou search it on google i solved my problem from there
[18:52] <zykotick9> defaultro: upstart doesn't have any management tools...
[18:52] <defaultro> zykotick9: I got lost
[18:53] <mfaroukg> unknown101, give me link I searched a lot
[18:53] <mfaroukg> I think it is different with me
[18:53] <defaultro> what do you think about this, http://askubuntu.com/questions/2263/chkconfig-alternative-for-ubuntu-server
[18:53] <mfaroukg> I have Samsung laptop
[18:53] <mediawork> hi any british people here?
[18:54] <mediawork> ahh, its non ubuntu related though... :(
[18:56] <defaultro>  sysv-rc-conf is very cool
[18:56] <mediawork> can somebody british, pronounce the following company name out loud, and tell me the first thing that comes to mind :)
[18:56] <mediawork> "BitVinci"
[18:57] <mediawork> but you have to say it out loud,
[18:57] <mediawork> sorry to be off topic,, but no good irc channel for this
[18:57] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic mediawork
[18:57] <mediawork> :(
[19:00] <green_geeky_dude> <- Britvic springs to mind :p
[19:03] <unknown101> anyone know how to patch a keyboard to work with ubuntu?
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> !details | unknown101 start from the beginning
[19:08] <mediawork> green_geeky_dude,  does the work "whimsical" spring to mind?   " a bit whimsy?"
[19:08] <mediawork> *word
[19:09] <bazhang> !ot | mediawork
[19:09] <green_geeky_dude> mediawork, Nope :p
[19:09] <genii> mediawork: As mentioned before, the better channel for you to enquire about non-support things is the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[19:10] <mediawork> geirha,  sorry
[19:10] <mediawork> Im goint
[19:10] <mediawork> going
[19:14] <jost> Hi! I've got a webserver, and a backup server that is only accessible from the webserver via ssh or ftp. Now I want to use the backup server to backup my local machine. In order to do that, I'd like to set up the webserver to act as SSH proxy to the backup server - how do I do that?
[19:16] <bazhang> jost  asked in #ubuntu-server yet?
[19:16] <jost> bazhang: nope, but will do
[19:16] <carbonix_> hi
[19:17] <carbonix_> the best version ubuntu is...?
[19:18] <carbonix_> 12.04?
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> !best | carbonix_
[19:18] <jost> carbonix_: depends
[19:22] <defaultro> hey folks, how can I find differrent versions of drupal that I can install with apt-get?
[19:24] <Axlin> apt-cache policy drupal
[19:24] <defaultro> ok
[19:25] <defaultro> i also tried apt-cache search drupal
[19:25] <zykotick9> !ppa | defaultro pay attention to the warning.
[19:25] <defaultro> it worked too
[19:25] <Axlin> Were you looking for version numbers or package names? apt-cache policy only shows you version numbers/sources for a specific package. apt-cache search will list packages with drupal in their name.
[19:26] <defaultro> kinda
[19:26] <bekks> Kinda what? :)
[19:26] <defaultro> I was worried that if I do apt-get install drupal, it might install old version
[19:26] <defaultro> i see there are 2 versions, 6 & 7
[19:26] <citrusfizz> i'd like to setup up my ubuntu server with two nic cards and have two ips in the same subnet attached to each one,  then bind two instances of apache one to each nic  running on different ports if need be.    Possible?
[19:26] <ikonia> citrusfizz: messy, but possibe
[19:27] <zykotick9> defaultro: apt "should" only know about the highest version number.   but with additional repos/ppas, it becomes muddied a bit.
[19:27] <eph3meral> so I'm getting this issue when trying to install nvidia drivers via Jockey
[19:27] <eph3meral> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6102987/
[19:27] <ikonia> citrusfizz: why do they require seperate physical interfaces ?
[19:27] <defaultro> k
[19:27] <citrusfizz> doesn't have to be seperate phsyical  could be virtual on one nic
[19:27] <citrusfizz> but,  they need to be on different IPs
[19:27] <defaultro> citrusfizz: you can run https with specific conf file I guess
[19:27] <ikonia> citrusfizz: why do they need to be seperate interfaces ?
[19:27] <ikonia> citrusfizz: can you not just put 2 ip's on one card ?
[19:27] <defaultro> you don't even need 2 nics
[19:27] <eph3meral> are nvidia drivers still only available for 3.8.0-19 ?
[19:27] <citrusfizz> ikonia: i could
[19:28] <kebisk> how do i know which desktop environment i have?
[19:28] <eph3meral> the only kernel that doesn't give me permanent low resolution is -27
[19:28] <ikonia> citrusfizz: unless you need seperate interfaces, I'd suggest that
[19:28] <defaultro> ikonia: he can even do named based vhosting
[19:28] <eph3meral> kbisk, if you haven't done anything differently than just installing regular ubuntu then you have Unity
[19:28] <citrusfizz> i can't do named based vhosting
[19:28] <ikonia> defaultro: yes, of course, but he didn't ask for that, so I'm assuming he needs IP's for reasons such as SSL
[19:28] <citrusfizz> i would if i could
[19:28] <defaultro> k
[19:28] <citrusfizz> but the application requirements wont work that way
[19:28] <eph3meral> kbisk which is bascially GNOME3
[19:28] <citrusfizz> yes SSL
[19:28] <ikonia> citrusfizz: just bind a second IP to a card
[19:29] <citrusfizz> ikona  thats fine
[19:29] <defaultro> like what ikonia said, you can create a second ip on the first nic
[19:29] <defaultro> aliasing
[19:29] <citrusfizz> but its the rest of it
[19:29] <kebisk> is there something i can type in the terminal that will give me the desktop environment as output?
[19:29] <citrusfizz> the rest of the process i am unsure how to go about
[19:29] <citrusfizz> i don't need someone to walk me through it, but just the logic
[19:29] <ikonia> citrusfizz: what do you need to know ?
[19:29] <ikonia> citrusfizz: what's not clear and we'll try to clear it up
[19:29] <BluesKaj> eph3meral, look in the software center for the 313 updates , make sure they're available there
[19:30] <kebisk> i dont think it's unity, it looks different
[19:30] <citrusfizz> ikonia:   first  how would the routing work..  since i would be using the same gateway address.
[19:30] <kebisk> i have no bar on the left
[19:30] <ikonia> citrusfizz: you wouldn't need to route
[19:30] <ikonia> citrusfizz: it's on the same network as the first address, no routing neededd
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> kebisk, what desktop is it?
[19:31] <kebisk> i dont understand the question
[19:31] <stonix> kebisk, could try env | grep XDG_CURRENT
[19:31] <citrusfizz> so if a request comes in on one IP and needs to make another call to another outside service before responding to the client, i still wont have an issue with routing?
[19:31] <ikonia> citrusfizz: nope, all good
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> kebisk, Hmm, desktop is beyond your understanding?
[19:32] <citrusfizz> so do i need to set the same gateway for each Vinterface or just one gateway is fine?
[19:32] <defaultro> as long as gateway is properly setup and that the machine can go to the internet properly
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> !details | kebisk
[19:32] <bekks> citrusfizz: You set one gateway only.
[19:32] <eph3meral> BluesKaj, hmm, I usually prefer to use ubuntu and at least last I checked (which was admittedly maybe more than a year ago) it was recommended iirc to always use jockey for nvidia drivers
[19:33] <ikonia> citrusfizz: you actually won't need to define an additional gateway
[19:33] <citrusfizz> well,  the idea here is that the outbound requests would look like they are coming from different IPs as well
[19:33] <ikonia> citrusfizz: it's already set from the first interface,
[19:33] <eph3meral> er, s/perfer to use ubuntu/prefer to use synaptic/
[19:33] <ikonia> citrusfizz: and they will, that will be in the control layer of the tcp stack
[19:33] <kebisk> yes, you can make fun of me if you wish... do you mean the brand? toshiba
[19:33] <ikonia> citrusfizz: they are sharing a phsysical card, not an IP
[19:33] <bazhang> kebisk, take a screenshot
[19:34]  * jcbbjoe away
[19:34] <ikonia> !away > jcbbjoe
[19:34] <bazhang> jcbbjoe, dis able that
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> kebisk, nobody is making fun of you, I see now you do not know what the dektop is, however you can identify the ubuntu version you installed to start with.
[19:34] <BluesKaj> eph3meral, yes I mean the ubuntu software center, it contains the the same drivers as jockey , but sometimes jockey is buggy
[19:35] <__0x57__> does anyone play world of warcraft through wine at the minute ?
[19:35] <kebisk> i didnt install it, but i know how to open the terminal and type in it... just dont know what to type
[19:35] <bekks> __0x57__: if we would do that, no one would be here.
[19:35] <darkmutt> hello, while installing ubuntu through wubi, how can I change the space associated for ubuntu later on?
[19:35] <ikonia> citrusfizz: bit more confident ?
[19:35] <__0x57__> @bekks and whys thaty
[19:35] <stonix> kebisk, i said try this env | grep XDG_CURRENT
[19:36] <kebisk> i get no output for that
[19:36] <peyam> hey
[19:36] <bekks> __0x57__: because we cant type in here while playing minecraft.
[19:36] <peyam> does anybody know how I install Hi I got this:
[19:36] <peyam> look at this
[19:36] <__0x57__> minecraft ?
[19:36] <peyam> http://neuro.debian.net/blog/2013/2013-05-31_matlab_64bit_on_32bit.html
[19:36] <hiigaran> okay, i was following a guide to install something, but it was only for ubuntu. im running lubuntu, and i cant find this 'applications menu' that the guide talks about. how do i find what i just installed? the program wasnt installed through apt-get
[19:36] <bazhang> kebisk, please post a screenshot then
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> darkmutt, There is a wiki on that, wubi is a tryout option, not for long term use.
[19:36] <bekks> __0x57__: so whats your real question besides polling how many of us play minecraft?
[19:36] <peyam> does anyone know how I install linux-image-amd64??
[19:36] <__0x57__> i didnt say minecraft learn to read
[19:36] <ikonia> peyam: what version of ubuntu ?
[19:37] <ikonia> peyam: matlab is only supported on specific versions
[19:37] <peyam> ikonia: xubuntu 32 bit 13.04
[19:37] <bekks> __0x57__: Now you have to look for someone else willing to help you.
[19:37] <darkmutt> hmmm so basically i'll have to play with gparted to make a new partition then install xubuntu on it ?
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> hiigaran, Link to the guide?
[19:37] <kebisk> dont know how to do screenshot
[19:37] <citrusfizz> ikonia:  can i have apache bind on port 80 for each VIP?
[19:37] <ikonia> peyam: ok, so this will be a bit more complex then as that guide is not for ubuntu
[19:37] <ikonia> citrusfizz: totally
[19:37] <peyam> ikonia: it should work anyway.. now they dont release 32 bits anymore
[19:37] <hiigaran> wilee-nilee: ill have to pastebin it. one sec
[19:37] <bazhang> __0x57__, #winehq for that
[19:37] <ikonia> citrusfizz: they bind to the IP not the card
[19:37] <ikonia> peyam: it's not quite that simple
[19:37] <__0x57__> thanks bazhang
[19:37] <kebisk> ok will try later, have to go