[14:28] <plamen> soundray: I tried more than once - burnt on different discs etc... nothing works
[14:28] <rascal999> I can only play sound in flash, why can't I play sound in Totem movie player?
[14:29] <soundray> plamen: have you tried booting another computer with those disks?
[14:29] <soundray> plamen: what CPU do you have?
[14:30] <plamen> soundray: AMD Turion 64 Mobile
[14:30] <RP_SWE> My headers are messsed up, cant install virtualbox (deb file)
[14:30] <alessandro> Hello friends!
[14:30] <CitizenC> rascal999: Pulseaudio is poop. System -> Prefs -> Sound. Under "Devices", make sure that all playback options are set to ALSA.
[14:30] <RP_SWE> so it wants to compile the source
[14:30] <RP_SWE> what should I do?
[14:30] <wols> RP_SWE: error message?
[14:30] <plamen> soundray: and no, I haven't tried another PCs, I only have this one
[14:30] <CitizenC> rascal: I had that same problem
[14:30] <RP_SWE> wols: Makefile:127: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again.  Stop.
[14:30] <Nave_> hi
[14:30] <wols> then install the sources and header packages for your kernel
[14:30] <Nebilim> :quit
[14:30] <plamen> soundray: but I do have a Windows XP and CentOS installed on this laptop with a GRUB booter
[14:30] <Armored_Azrael> Anyone know how to bind an action to trigger on the resume of a locked session?
[14:31] <RP_SWE> wols: how?
[14:31] <perfector> how can i remove gnome and all packages related to it??
[14:31] <wols> apt-cache search kernel-headers (or linux-headers)
[14:31] <wols> sae for source
[14:31] <Nave_> how do i add widgets to my dektop?
[14:31] <Nave_> desktop*
[14:31] <bazhang> perfector, no xserver or only kde or what
[14:31] <perfector> wols: hey wols
[14:31] <white_eagle> can more qt4 themes (styles) be downloaded and installed?
[14:31] <wols> perfector:  remove libgnome32 and libgnome2-common
[14:32] <rascal999> CitizenC: thans
[14:32] <Nave_> does anyone know how i can add widgets to my desktop
[14:32] <white_eagle> not only those 5 that are already there
[14:32] <wols> Nave_: gdesklets for example
[14:32] <Nave_> do i search in add/remove?
[14:32] <perfector> bazhang: actually i wont mind having gdm but everything related to gnome must be gone
[14:32] <Nave_> gdesklets?
[14:32] <bazhang> perfector, you want any wm?
[14:32] <plamen> soundray: so I guess I'll just work with CentOS for now... until Ubuntu comes up with a version that I would be able to install
[14:32] <perfector> bazhang: wols: and then wud install fluxbox..
[14:32] <white_eagle> Nave_: screenlets
[14:32] <Nave_> do i searck that in addremove
[14:32] <Nave_> ok
[14:32] <white_eagle> !screenlets | Nave_
[14:32] <CitizenC> np
[14:33] <perfector> bazhang: wols: machine with less resources..
[14:33] <soundray> plamen: oh, you're giving up?
[14:33] <Nave_> compiz runs slow
[14:33] <Nave_> on my 1.8gig
[14:33] <perfector> bazhang: wols: so i dont want to login to gnome  at all
[14:33] <plamen> soundray: what else is there to do? I already spent 2 days trying to figure this out
[14:33] <Nave_> pentium 4
[14:33] <white_eagle> Nave_: what kind of g. card do you have?
[14:33] <bazhang> 2 days :)
[14:33] <RP_SWE> wols: but I dont know what to download
[14:33] <Nave_> i have a onboard video card 2 very basic
[14:33] <white_eagle> navetz_: it runs great on my intel celeron m 1.5 ghz processor
[14:34] <Nave_> intel
[14:34] <white_eagle> oh
[14:34] <white_eagle> sorry
[14:34] <soundray> plamen: well, you could choose a non-CD based installation method
[14:34] <white_eagle> I meant Nave_
[14:34] <Paradox1> !iso
[14:34] <perfector> bazhang: wols: any idea wht happened to fluxbuntu??
[14:34] <Nave_> i dunno its very basic
[14:34] <bazhang> plamen, try unetbootin
[14:34] <white_eagle> bye
[14:34] <Nave_> well you know in appearences?
[14:34] <perfector> bazhang: wols: seems dead
[14:34] <Nave_> when i try to change it to high
[14:34] <Nave_> or normal it wont let me
[14:34] <jeleta> how do i install planeshift
[14:34] <soundray> plamen: or install with wubi (somewhat limited, but good for evaluation)
[14:35] <Nave_> oh well i guess basic is not bad still
[14:35] <Nave_> this looks still nice
[14:35] <plamen> soundray: i didn't see the net install version on the ubuntu website
[14:35] <Dew420> hmm
[14:35] <soundray> !install | plamen
[14:35] <filthpig> wols, Eclipse claims to support several languages, but when dl'ed from repos it only talks about Java..  The issue is that apt-get install git should install *git*.
[14:39] <sidewalk> i cant configure above 800x600, when doing it with System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[14:39] <digbert> IdleOne: I shouldn't have to install git-core as git should depend, naturally, on git-core.
[14:39] <Botulinum> Nothing happind
[14:39] <IdleOne> wols, digbert agreed but it didn't and told you what to do so I think that is pretty good
[14:39] <wols> IdleOne: it's crap and a bug
[14:39] <adisini> my pcmcia modem was got IP from my ISP, but the internet is not connected?anybody can help me?
[14:40] <IdleOne> wols, report it to launchpad. probably just an oversite
[14:40] <wols> the point of apt is to do it automatically, or I could stay with dpkg
[14:40] <branstrom> Hi guys. In hardy it seems only "ruby1.8" is installed? Should I install the metapackage "ruby" too? It depends on ruby1.8. And irb depends on irb1.8 likewise and so on...
[14:40] <digbert> Will do.
[14:40] <perfector> adisini: no ping replies u mean??
[14:40] <Botulinum> When i boot from disk the ubuntu menu comes up, but when i try to install or check disk or anything it just acts like its not doing anything
[14:40] <wols> IdleOne: yes a bug. can't since I don't run git (or ubuntu), digbert does
[14:40] <jeleta> now what do i do i installed build-essential
[14:40] <soundray> digbert, IdleOne, wols: apt-get install git installs git, but  it's a different git, not the revision control system
[14:40] <filthpig> wols, all I seem to find is "plug-in development", as in make your own plugin Oo
[14:40] <IdleOne> jeleta, now you follow the install instructions for planeshift
[14:40] <wols> jeleta: now you have a compiler and can compile watever you want
[14:40] <soundray> So it's not a bug, just a namespace conflict
[14:41] <digbert> Oh, GNU Interactive Tools.
[14:41] <jeleta> how do i compile it
[14:41] <Botulinum> i wonder what the problem is
[14:41] <Botulinum> i burned at 8x
[14:41] <jeleta> it is a .bin file
[14:41] <perfector> any idead y my custom compiled kernel (using kpkg) dows not build the initramfs during installation??
[14:41] <perfector> any idead y my custom compiled kernel (using kpkg) dows not build the initramfs during installation??
[14:41] <perfector> opps sorry
[14:41] <adisini> perfector: yup. but IP, gateway and DNS was automatic configured
[14:41] <spsneo> can i install ubuntu on mac?
[14:41] <adisini> perfector
[14:42] <Botulinum> why is ubuntu not installing ?!?
[14:42] <adisini> can u help me?
[14:42] <soundray> spsneo: yes, if it's recent enough
[14:42] <perfector> adisini: u mean u can even ping ur dns server, oe gateway server?
[14:42] <spsneo> actually i am going to buy one laptop
[14:42] <plamen> ok thanks guys, I'm going to reboot and try the net install now
[14:42] <perfector> adisini: did u try reconnecting??
[14:42] <spsneo> i am confused what to buy a pc or a mac?
[14:42] <perfector> any idea y my custom compiled kernel (using kpkg) does not build the initramfs during installation?? pls help
[14:43] <havchr> where can I find .asoundrc?
[14:43] <Botulinum> Soundray: It does the same thing when i check the disk it jsut acts like its doing nothing
[14:43] <speps> hey guys ... i have an mdf image so i converted it to iso with mdf2iso ... but when i try to mount it i get bad fs type ... when i do "file file.iso" i get "file.iso: data"... it seems to be different to iso files ... how can i solve this issue?Thanks
[14:43] <farfadet_> french is were?
[14:43] <perfector> havchr: in ur home folder probably...
[14:43] <bazhang> !fr
[14:43] <adisini> perfector: yes, i can't ping anywhere. but i can ping my own IP. I was try to connecting about a week :D
[14:43] <farfadet_> ou est le forum francais?
[14:44] <bazhang> #ubuntu-fr
[14:44] <perfector> adisini: is any firewall running??
[14:44] <water_foul> i'm having a Apache2/php5/mysql install problem, is this the right place to ask?
[14:44] <Botulinum> I used infrarecorder to burn the image, maybe i should try another program to burn it ?
[14:44] <Saladin> Je parlez pas Francais. #Ubuntu-fr pour Francais
[14:45] <soundray> Botulinum: perhaps
[14:45] <adisini> perfector: hm... maybe. how can I view my firewall configuration?
[14:45] <soundray> !burniso | Botulinum
[14:45] <perfector> any idea y my custom compiled kernel (using kpkg) does not build the initramfs during installation?? pls help
[14:45] <soundray> !repeat | perfector
[14:45] <perfector> adisini: sudo iptables -L -n
[14:45] <perfector> ubottu: gee sorry ... will do that
[14:46] <unimatrix9> is it just me, there seems to be a lot of troubles with wireless drivers, especially the ralink ones ( 8.04 hardy )
[14:46] <Dr_willis_> wireless = 'lot of troubles' about everywhere ive ever tried it.
[14:47] <filthpig> unimatrix9, it's not just you ;)
[14:47] <soundray> unimatrix9: they are a total pain in the neck. I ripped the card out of my wife's laptop and replaced it with an Intel one.
[14:47] <yamanickill> unimatrix9: ubuntu seems to not like laptop wireless. most other ones are fine i've found
[14:47] <luigi> !it
[14:47] <soundray> unimatrix9: no more problems since
[14:47] <speps> hey guys ... i have an mdf image so i converted it to iso with mdf2iso ... but when i try to mount it i get bad fs type ... when i do "file file.iso" i get "file.iso: data"... it seems to be different to iso files ... how can i solve this issue?Thanks
[14:47] <yamanickill> unimatrix9: i currently use an LM
[14:47] <perfector> wols: ok by removing  libgnome will it also remove stuff like gnome-terminal??
[14:47] <jonah> hey guys i've got a second hard drive which shows up no worries in dolphin but i always have to double click it to mount it. how can i have it auto mount or append my fstab to do so cleanly?
[14:48] <filthpig> yamanickill, ubuntu's not the problem, the problem is manufactorers not providing drivers
[14:48] <Saladin> In terms of setting up a network, can I use all desktop versions, or would you recommend I use a Server edition of Ubuntu as well?
[14:48] <unimatrix9> LM ? =?
[14:48] <adisini> perfector: ok, thx bro. I'll try to check my firewall now. but i need to reboot first. see u later :)
[14:48] <soundray> unimatrix9: it can't just have been a driver issue. I had dropping connections and other failures under a popular closed-source OS as well.
[14:48] <Cew27> can anyone tell me why i can acess keyring manager without having to eneter a password and from there it can show my password for that keyring, hardly secure!
[14:48] <perfector> adisini: k
[14:48] <yamanickill> filthpig: yeah, i know that...but i'm just saying thats a problem with linux in general...because of proprietry drivers
[14:48] <wols> perfector: yes since that depends on libgnome
[14:48] <wols> filthpig: http://www.eclipse.org/cdt/
[14:48] <filthpig> yamanickill, true
[14:49] <perfector> wols: cool.... just what i would need... that means it would leave me with a base install of ubuntu ??
[14:49] <yamanickill> i like to keep one that works out the box just incase i get any problems...i use an LM technologies USB one and it works perfectly...just seems to be laptop ones i've had problems with
[14:49] <unimatrix9> its really hard to pick out an pci wireless card that works out of the box this way..
[14:49] <yamanickill> but...having said that..i've never not got one to work...eventually they all work with me
[14:49] <wols> perfector: define "base". you still have all of X
[14:49] <wangdong> hi
[14:49] <wols> perfector: gnome is part of ubuntu's "base"
[14:49] <unimatrix9> hard cash if you make the wrong choice
[14:50] <perfector> wols: uh yeah ok i get it now..
[14:50] <perfector> wols: thx
[14:50] <wols> unimatrix9: pretty much none does. your best choice is atheros (intel is another good choice but they only exist built in usually)
[14:50] <wols> there are drivers which could work out of the box (ralink, zd1211, etc)
[14:50] <wols> but in the end they have various problems
[14:51] <perfector> how accurate is ubuntuhcl.org??
[14:51] <anja> hi....
[14:51] <yamanickill> unimatrix9: I've found that i can get most wireless drivers working eventually
[14:51] <Cew27> can anyone tell me why i can acess keyring manager without having to eneter a password and from there it can show my password for that keyring, hardly secure!
[14:51] <unimatrix9> ralink was the discussion of not working correctly
[14:51] <anja> hi....
[14:51] <wols> yamanickill: yes, but with how much hassle (or ndiswrapper)
[14:51] <wols> unimatrix9: the driver is Free, but it's shit
[14:51] <perfector> i guess before buying any hw its best to check there
[14:51] <wols> not too happy about the hardware or software there
[14:51] <yamanickill> wols: only one took longer than 10 mins
[14:51] <bazhang> ohmy wols
[14:51] <anja> hi........
[14:52]  * wols hands bazhang a !
[14:52] <bazhang> anja hi
[14:52] <unimatrix9> wireless seems to have an new chipset out there too, the marvell chip
[14:52] <yamanickill> does linux have the ability to use 802.11 n yet btw?
[14:52] <cypha> which codecs should i be installing? gstreamer extra plugins, gstreamer ffmpeg video plugin, or gstreamer plugins for aac, xvid, mpeg2, faad.......or all of them?
[14:53] <yamanickill> cypha: depends what for
[14:53] <unimatrix9> i did see wimax drivers in the kernel modules of hardy
[14:53] <Cew27> can anyone tell me why i can acess keyring manager without having to eneter a password and from there it can show my password for that keyring, hardly
[14:53] <cypha> yamanickill, generally, is it better to have all of them, or does 1 of them do what the others do anyway?
[14:53] <cypha> i was trying to play a video and it said i needed a codec
[14:53] <unimatrix9> cypha : all , why not?
[14:54] <cypha> it found those 3 codecs
[14:54] <Chrysalis> whats the difference between hardy-desktop-i386.iso and ubuntu-8.4-desktop-i386.iso here http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[14:54] <unimatrix9> wont hurt you
[14:54] <cypha> ...unimatrix9: just in case there was redundancy
[14:54] <yamanickill> cypha: install the ones that it needs to play it...don't install more
[14:54] <yamanickill> if it says you need them all...install them all
[14:54] <yamanickill> i only install codecs i need
[14:54] <taxman> cypha: did you check the Ubuntu wiki page on codecs? It's good to know
[14:54] <cypha> doesn't say i need all, but it's asking to choose which to intsall
[14:54] <cypha> i didn't taxman, but it's worth a read?
[14:54] <rsk> Chrysalis: i can't find a ubuntu-8.4-desktop-i386.iso there
[14:55] <taxman> cypha: yeah, It's right off the main questions iirc
[14:55] <rsk> Chrysalis: or any name having ubuntu-8.4
[14:55] <Chrysalis> rsk: its there
[14:55] <yamanickill> cypha: what were you trying to play
[14:55] <lyzium> how do i get the output of the top most codebox in this post? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=797411
[14:55] <cypha> yamanickill: a movie
[14:55] <rsk> Chrysalis: unless the search function in firefox is broken it's not there
[14:55] <yamanickill> cypha: what type?
[14:55] <filthpig> wols, found it through Synaptic :)
[14:55] <cypha> xvid
[14:55] <Chrysalis> rsk: sorry, 8.04
[14:55] <cypha> avi
[14:55] <doron> hi, Im trying to get my TV card (Hauppage PVR-150) to work with ubuntu but no luck . kernel loads IVTV but I cant change the inputs to something viewable
[14:55] <yamanickill> go for the extra plugins
[14:56] <cypha> k
[14:56] <cypha> will do
[14:56] <rsk> Chrysalis: dunno but take the ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[14:56] <cypha> so i'll get them all!
[14:56] <rsk> that
[14:56] <cypha> =)
[14:56] <FloodBot2> cypha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:56] <rsk> 's what i used
[14:56] <taxman> lyzium: I'm not sure that's output. I think that user is quoting another user's comments
[14:57] <unimatrix9> we need an new list for wireless this one is not up to date https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsByVersion
[14:57] <Chrysalis> rsk: i wonder it that one has all 3 desktops. . . the one that doesnt specify ubuntu
[14:57] <unimatrix9> its still only for 7.10
[14:57] <taxman> lyzium: nm, don't listen to me
[14:57] <lyzium> taxman, oh i see... i was hoping it was a grep of some command.. that would have been neat as im unsure what driver is running on my laptop
[14:57] <lyzium> taxman, oh
[14:58] <yamanickill> anyone had any exprience with nvidia geforce 8400GS? i'm building a new computer and am gonna use that as my second graphics card for dual screen
[14:58] <tacit> !HCL @ yamanickill
[14:58] <wols> yamanickill: pretty much all videocards have 2 connectors nowadays
[14:58] <wols> no need to buy a 2nd card
[14:59]  * tacit realized he is in a strange land.
[14:59] <enervation3> Hi - I manged to wipe out the first quarter of /usr/bin. I've copied over the dpkg file from another installation, but now when using it I get the error "sudo: dpkg: command not found". Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[14:59] <yamanickill> i find that a lot more bother to set up dual screen than having 2 graphics cards
[14:59] <unimatrix9> 8400gs does it not do duak screen
[14:59] <bazhang> !yast | tacit
[14:59] <yamanickill> plus, my first graphics card is on my motherboard
[14:59] <bazhang> :)
[15:00] <wols> yamanickill: then it's useless and your 8400gs will be way better, even when it's a crappy card itsel
[15:00] <wols> f
[15:00] <yamanickill> unimatrix9: i've had bad experiences with trying to dual screen with one card
[15:00] <tacit> bazhang: Happens sometimes.
[15:00] <cypha> and for vlc, do i do sudo apt-get install vlc-nox ?
[15:00] <taxman> lyzium: I'm not on my Ubuntu box, but you can get that info from one of the items in the system -> administration menu.
[15:00] <cypha> is that the right one?
[15:00] <yamanickill> wols: so you think i should get one card that has 2 outputs rather than 2 cards?
[15:00] <yamanickill> cypha: sudo apt-get install vlc
[15:01] <unimatrix9> i see
[15:01] <cypha> k
[15:01] <wols> yamanickill: yes. and a decent one. what mobo/cpu?
[15:01] <taxman> lyzium: or you can read through the output of dmesg :)
[15:01] <wols> yamanickill: and what usage for the PC?
[15:01] <wols> yamanickill: the 8400gs will be as fast or faster than your built in card
[15:01] <yamanickill> otherboard is an intel...can't remember model number
[15:02] <OllieH> Hi, does anyone know why when I play my music it plays at a slightly different frequency? I dont notice it, but if I tune my guitar to the normal 440, then it sounds out of tune, and if i change it to 430 then it sounds right.... any ideas?
[15:02] <yamanickill> motherboard*
[15:02] <yamanickill> wols: the pc is just a general home computer
[15:02] <wols> yamanickill: play _any_ games?
[15:02] <tacit> enervation3: If you get a live system, see man dpkg for --root and friend to operate on another root file system, e.g. the one containing the /usr/bin you are trying to fix.
[15:03] <yamanickill> wols: only xmoto really
[15:03] <yamanickill> but xmoto works fine with my 7 year old laptop with an ATI graphics card
[15:03] <yamanickill> infact, i got compiz-fusion working on this
[15:04] <wols> ok, for a linux only machine a videocard isn't that pressing need
[15:04] <wols> not many games and video is doable on built in
[15:04] <kwan> i'm reading a ubuntu install howto right now, and it suggests that one should create separate /boot /swap /home /root partitions.  In particular, it saids creating separate /boot partition is a good security measure
[15:04] <perfector> apt says some packages are kept back but when i say aptitude upgrade it does not get upgraded??
[15:04] <dos000> i have funny characters apearing in eclipse in hardy when editing files with unicode
[15:04] <unimatrix9> wols, unless you play games on the linux box , i do...
[15:04] <unimatrix9> :P
[15:04] <wols> perfector: dist-upgrade
[15:04] <dos000> the geditor is fine with the same file
[15:04] <kwan> can someone explain why/how so?  i'm new to this, and would like to learn more =D
[15:04] <wols> unimatrix9: not many games available :P
[15:05] <yamanickill> i think my motherboard's built in graphics card only has 1 output...which is why i was getting the nvidia
[15:05] <unimatrix9> true. but like the ones i play
[15:05] <lyzium> taxman, thank you
[15:05] <wols> yamanickill: yes I understand, but: what mobo is it?
[15:05] <yamanickill> wols: i was basically asking...is the nvidia 8400GS any good lol
[15:05] <wols> yamanickill: not really but your needs are very simple
[15:05] <yamanickill> 2 secs i'll check the model number
[15:05] <wols> yamanickill: however builtin graphics will cost you performance of your CPU/memory bus
[15:06] <dos000> anyone here familiar ti the eclise ide and ubuntu hardy ?
[15:06] <illmorta1> Does anyone know how to change the "Folder theme" specifically?
[15:06] <perfector> wols: ur a saviour... y does this happen though??
[15:06] <Nave_> hey ..there is no need to defrag on ubuntu hey?
[15:06] <bazhang> Nave_, nay
[15:06] <taxman> kwan: googling for linux partitions or partioning, that sort of thing will give you much better info that we can explain here. The short version is you can set different permissions and other filesystem options if you have different partitions
[15:06] <Nave_> cool
[15:06] <bazhang> not on ext3 Nave_
[15:06] <wols> " kept back is when packages have not been upgraded even though newer versions
[15:06] <wols>              are available.  What am i doing wrong?
[15:07] <yamanickill> you recommend something else? i've not bought it yet
[15:07] <perfector> wols: thx a lot
[15:07] <wols> yamanickill: I have a e2160. very nice CPU but on a p35 board
[15:07] <unimatrix9> brasero to burn cdroms etc
[15:07] <Nave_> oh yeah mount
[15:07] <wols> yamanickill: I'd advise you to get one as well
[15:07] <bazhang> yamanickill, this is getting a bit offtopic
[15:07] <Nave_> how do i access mount?
[15:07] <Falling-Inferno> How would i go about setting up a PHPBB Forum, That is hosting off my computer?
[15:08] <wols> that it is
[15:08] <adelfino> http://www.ubuntu.com/files/u3/languages.png
[15:08] <wols> !info phpbb
[15:08] <bazhang> terminal Nave_
[15:08] <yamanickill> ok'
[15:08] <adelfino> Does anyone note something strange in one of the GIMP windows?
[15:08] <wols> !lamp | Falling-Inferno
[15:08] <christoz> I'm having problem on acquiring sound events(look at http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1144/soundpreferencesyv8.png)...
[15:08] <yamanickill> ok, thanks wols, i'll look into it
[15:08] <Nave_> ok
[15:08] <sarah_bear> hey guys, anyone here every used Nepenthes for ubuntu?
[15:08] <r> help i had copied the xubuntu cd using the xcopy command with /e /h that is using all directories and hidden files and still iam getting a "missing operating system" error when i boot from my pendrive
[15:08] <r> the md5 is fine nothin corrupt or damaged
[15:09] <lubosz> zup
[15:09] <Odd-rationale> So midnight commander is the classic unix terminal-based file manager. What are my other options?
[15:09] <Tack> I think I need a little tech support: I have 3 gutsy systems each with the same sources.list.  After doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade on each, I now have 3 different versions of openssh-client (4.6p1-5build1, 4.6p1-5ubuntu0.2, and 4.6p1-5ubuntu0.5).  The latter actually does seem to be the latest -- at least it has ssh-vulnkey.   I can't draw smooth curves or anyhing like that
[15:09] <bazhang> r why not cfdisk
[15:09] <lubosz> in which config file is specified that compiz starts with gnome session start AND can i add some arguments :D ???!?!?!??!??!
[15:09] <r> whats that
[15:10] <bazhang> r what tutorials did you follow
[15:10] <christoz> the ubuntu help says about enabling sound server startup ,,,where is that?
[15:10] <r> no tutorial just copied all files hidden as well
[15:10] <JoaoJoao> hello
[15:10] <bazhang> www.pendrivelinux.com r check this
[15:11] <JoaoJoao> Anyone here knows a workaround for the rtl8187 wireless "random" disconnection bug?
[15:11] <r> i dont want to install just want to keep it live
[15:11] <cypha> my sound has stopped working!?
[15:11] <cypha> i'm not sure why
[15:11] <cypha> it was working before
[15:11] <cypha> not sure what changed
[15:11] <bazhang> r that can be done too
[15:11] <JoaoJoao> apart from the "rmmod rtl8187" "modprobe rtl8187"? Maybe a driver patch
[15:11] <r> somethin inside windows i have no cd
[15:11] <OllieH> Hi, does anyone know why when I play my music it plays at a slightly different frequency? I dont notice it, but if I tune my guitar to the normal 440, then it sounds out of tune, and if i change it to 430 then it sounds right.... any ideas?
[15:11] <r> just an simulated iso
[15:12] <KingOfDos> are there any known bitlbee problems?
[15:12] <kwan> taxman: i thought you could set permissions for any file/directory regardless if they're in the same/different partition
[15:12] <r> theres someone named iso!!
[15:12] <r> lol
[15:12] <bazhang> r mount the iso on a partition then
[15:12] <geus> hi
[15:12] <r> iam inside windows its not as flexible as linux
[15:12] <sudobash> wow my car just got towed for jumping another car off
[15:12] <sudobash> last time i try to help someone
[15:13] <pambrocio> hi peeps i need help installing java-tools-bundle-update5-linux.sh
[15:13] <r> i want to keep it live because i dont want to even touch the MBR
[15:13] <bazhang> r the way you do it wont work
[15:14] <taxman> kwan: yes, but the rub is in the other options you can set and if the the home partition gets corrupted on the off chance, then you don't lose your others. But there are a lot of factors that go into it, which is why I recommended further reading if you really wanted to know. If it's just your home system, the defaults will work super for just about everybody
[15:14] <infamous> hey everyone
[15:14] <cypha> i don't know what happened
[15:14] <r> ok i got a toutorial from pendrive linux thanx
[15:14] <cypha> i think i downloaded some codecs and now my sound isn't working
[15:14] <Tazzie> Hi, anyone has any experience with Big Desktop on two monitors?
[15:14] <cypha> the ubuntu-restricted-stuff
[15:14] <cypha> or whatever
[15:14] <J-Unit> how do u save the shortcuts for apps onto the bar in xubuntu (in ubuntu i right cliked and chose save to panel)
[15:15] <bazhang> kwan psychocats has some excellent stuff on that
[15:15] <KenSentMe> How can i install a new pcf.gz font?
[15:15] <pambrocio> how do i install the java tools bundle how do  go about this had hard time installing the sdk by itself
[15:15] <bazhang> !java | pambrocio
[15:15] <Tazzie> Anyone has a dual monitor setup?
[15:15] <KenSentMe> !font
[15:16] <kwan> bazhang google psychocats partition?
[15:16] <bazhang> kwan let me get you the link
[15:16] <bazhang> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome kwan
[15:17] <infamous> can someone hellp me i have a problem 2 install a web cam
[15:17] <sudobash> Tazzie there are tutorials for dual monitor
[15:17] <Tazzie> sudobash: yeah I tried...
[15:17] <christoz> I'm having problem on acquiring sound events(look at http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1144/soundpreferencesyv8.png)...
[15:17] <Tazzie> but it doesn't work
[15:17] <christoz> the ubuntu help says about enabling sound server startup ,,,where is that?
[15:17] <kwan> bazhang: thanks, i love to learn the inter-workings.  Linux lets you delve deep into this kinda stuff. :>
[15:17] <bazhang> ;]
[15:18] <Nave_> ok
[15:18] <Nave_> i found what file system i have
[15:18] <Nave_> 2 types. i have ext3 and fuse???
[15:18] <Tazzie> sudobash: My login-screen works in dual-mon, (only I can only type on the mon. my mouse is)
[15:18] <Nave_> dunno what that is
[15:18] <rinaldi_> im getting grub error 13 when I try to boot to windows HDD. here is my fdisk -l and menu.lst http://pastebin.com/m77213da0 any ideas?
[15:18] <Nave_> i think its all ext3 however
[15:19] <Xorothal> hey guys, i can't seem to find the vmware-server package in synaptic (in hardy), am I missing a repo?
[15:19] <Tazzie> sudobash: but when I login I get a cloned desktop and when I change to 3360x1050 I get a garbled up desktop
[15:19] <Nave_> i installed ubuntu under default installation guided partition
[15:19] <Nave_> the default guided installation
[15:19] <taxman> vmware server isn't in the repos anymore is it?
[15:19] <Nave_> so i'm assuming its all ext3
[15:20] <Tazzie> Hey XS4All doet het weer ;-)
[15:20] <rsk> xs4all? they have great qw-servers =)
[15:21] <Nave_> are there other general chat rooms?
[15:21] <bittin> Nave_: for Ubuntu?
[15:21] <Nave_> yeh
[15:21] <jussi01> !ot | Nave_
[15:21] <Xorothal> guys?
[15:21] <rsk> guys?
[15:21] <unimatrix9> yes?
[15:21] <chatta1> ?
[15:21] <Nave_> cool thanks
[15:21] <Xorothal> hey guys, i can't seem to find the vmware-server package in synaptic (in hardy), am I missing a repo?
[15:22] <Xorothal> ... as i said earlier
[15:22] <rohan> on my (and everyone who uses backports i guess) system, qt version is 4.4, whereas pyqt is 4.3.3. will it cause problems? when will hardy-backports have python-qt4 4.4, if at all?
[15:22] <unimatrix9> did you enable aal repositories?
[15:22] <KenSentMe> !font
[15:22] <unimatrix9> all
[15:22] <Xorothal> unimatrix9, are you talking to me?
[15:22] <JoaoJoao> Anyone here installed the Rtl8187 Windows driver with ndiswrapper?
[15:22] <unimatrix9> es
[15:22] <Nave_> so most default installation i.e. guided partition is set to default as an ext3 partition for ubuntu yes?????????????
[15:23] <JoaoJoao> The rtl8187 driver is terrible
[15:23] <r> iam a little scared i dont overwrite my mbr
[15:23] <rinaldi_> JoaoJoao: I know, I was trying to help someone the other day with it
[15:23] <taxman> Xorothal: you must have missed it. I mentioned I don't think it's in there anymore
[15:23] <pambrocio> the bot did not tell how to install j2ee
[15:23] <JoaoJoao> rinaldi_: Any success? I'm getting "random" disconnections
[15:23] <sidewalk> is there some kind of xf86setup for ubuntu?
[15:23] <Nave_> so i'm assuming all ubuntu runs on ext3????????
[15:23] <Nave_> YES?
[15:23] <Xorothal> taxman, ok thx
[15:23] <rsk> Nave_: by default yes
[15:23] <Nave_> ok cool
[15:24] <bazhang> Nave_, can do, yes
[15:24] <rohan> Nave_: not necessarily
[15:24] <Xorothal> ok.. is there any way to convert a vmware machine into a virtualbox machine?
[15:24] <Nave_> i'm happy cos then i don't have to defrag
[15:24] <JoaoJoao> The rmmod + modprobe works, but I have to do it about 3x an hour
[15:24] <rohan> Xorothal: i think virtualbox can directly use vmware's disks
[15:24] <Xorothal> rohan, interesting... i hadn't even considered the possibility
[15:24] <Nave_> why is ubuntu so good and its free?
[15:25] <sidewalk> can anyone help me getting my X working under Ubuntu?
[15:25] <bazhang> chat in #ubuntu-offtopic Nave_ thanks
[15:25] <Nave_> ok
[15:25] <rinaldi_> JoaoJoao: it turned out the guys distro was completely broken anyway, so it didnt connect. did you do all that depmod -a and stuff before you modbrobe?
[15:25] <rsk> Nave_: well. lots of people work with it
[15:25] <bazhang> sidewalk, need lots more info
[15:25] <lars_bauer> Følgende pakker har uopfyldte afhængigheder:
[15:25] <lars_bauer>   python-gasp: Afhængigheder: python-central (>= 0.6) men 0.5.15ubuntu2 forventes installeret
[15:25] <lars_bauer> E: Ødelagte pakker
[15:25] <JoaoJoao> rinaldi_: Mine connects just fine, sometimes it will even work for several hours
[15:26] <rohan> Xorothal: you might want to look at - http://www.happyassassin.net/2007/02/06/vmware-to-virtualbox/
[15:26] <Xorothal> kk thx
[15:26] <sidewalk> bazhang: i have an nvidia card and a hpl1720 monitor, which i cant get working
[15:26] <Coggz> no windows on it, but rather linux)
[15:26] <rinaldi_> JoaoJoao: are you far from the access point? maybe also interference? try changing the wireless channel
[15:26] <JoaoJoao> No ProbeResp from current AP - XX:XX:XX:XX:X assume out of range
[15:26] <sidewalk> bazhang: i need to get the resolution working, but the maximum i can choose is 800x600
[15:27] <bazhang> sidewalk, which exact card
[15:27] <JoaoJoao> rinaldi_: Not really, I'm about 1 meter from the AP
[15:27] <eitreach> I'm considering finally upgrading to HH permanently. Has the Nvidia-drivers been fixed, with shadows in Compiz and such?
[15:27] <cypha> can someone help me with a gnome specific sound problem?
[15:27] <rohan> Xorothal: or this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMagazine/HowTo/Switching_From_VMWare_To_VirtualBox:_.vmdk_To_.vdi_Using_Qemu_+_VdiTool
[15:27] <cypha> i can play wavs from the terminal
[15:27] <cypha> but i can't get sound to play otherwise
[15:27] <bazhang> eitreach, ask in #compiz
[15:27] <Chrysalis> does the ubuntu iso have gparted or do i need to make a second CD for gparted?
[15:27] <JoaoJoao> rinaldi_: This is the dmesg line "No ProbeResp from current AP - XX:XX:XX:XX:X assume out of range"
[15:27] <eitreach> bazhang, right.. but it was really an nvidia-issue - it just roared its head in Compiz.
[15:27] <matthias_N> hardy where can i find the "Multimedia system selector" or what package is needed ...
[15:28] <JoaoJoao> seems to be quite common btw
[15:28] <KenSentMe> How can i install a pcf font?
[15:28] <JoaoJoao> I've heard that changing a kernel param for the driver could d the trick
[15:28] <cypha> can someone help me with my sound please?
[15:29] <rinaldi_> JoaoJoao: looks like you just get kicked off
[15:29] <eitreach> I can try looking that up, I s'pose.
[15:29] <charims> I have a relatively fresh install of ubuntu, and my sound system seems to freeze a lot when i use web based flash. Is there a command I can use to restart the sound system?
[15:29] <Fructose> Didn't Skype used to be installable from Synaptic? I don't find it when I search now.
[15:29] <ikonia> Fructose: it's an external repo
[15:29] <bazhang> Fructose, nay
[15:29] <ikonia> Fructose: it is a dpkg repo, but not one supplied by ubuntu
[15:30] <ikonia> Fructose: thats how you saw it in synaptic
[15:30] <cypha> i can't get sounddd, please help
[15:30] <ikonia> Fructose: skype has it's own repo
[15:30] <Fructose> Hmm. OK. My mistake, then.
[15:30] <bazhang> need to add it Fructose
[15:30] <ikonia> Fructose: you are right, it is available through synaptic
[15:30] <ikonia> Fructose: just not from an ubuntu repo
[15:30] <charims> Sound system frozen, how do i restart it?
[15:30] <JoaoJoao> I'll try installing the windows driver
[15:30] <eitreach> apparently, this can fix it: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/04/28/workaround-for-pink-shadows-with-compiz/
[15:31] <JoaoJoao> although it seems to have the same issue
[15:31] <Osiri1> my wireless suddenly stopped working, it show no available networks,
[15:31] <JoaoJoao> rtl8187 sucks
[15:31] <cappy_> v
[15:31] <cappy_> Why when im sitting on PC ,my system just logout me ? im not clicking Ctrl+Alt+Backspace or something else.... can any1 help me ?
[15:32] <sudobash> cappy how long do you let it sit there?
[15:32] <osiri1> cappy_: i get that sometimes when i click on weblinks
[15:32] <sudobash> and how long does it take to shutoff? does the PC shutdown or just logout?
[15:32] <cappy_> just logout
[15:32] <sudobash> strage...
[15:32] <sudobash> strange...
[15:32] <cappy_> 1st time i though i touched Ctrl+alt+backspace
[15:32] <osiri1> very, i log back on, and the link is ok
[15:33] <cappy_> but in 10mins it repeated
[15:33] <Wile> Hello, I have an ATI Firegl mobility 9000 card, and I can't activate the 3D...
[15:33] <cappy_> and just 10min ago it happened again... when i was typiing in skype
[15:33] <cappy_> (sry for my bad english ;d)
[15:34] <bazhang> cappy_, this a notebook?
[15:34] <Ashfire908> There seems to be something that keeps searching my filesystem or something, because it will start accessing my hard drive when I'm not doing anything.
[15:34] <cappy_> nope, normal PC
[15:34] <cappy_> Sysinfo for 'CappY': Linux 2.6.24-16-386 running KDE 3.5.9, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2200+ at 1900 MHz (3803 bogomips), HD: 201/269GB, RAM: 633/757MB, 155 proc's, 7.1h up
[15:34] <bazhang> tracker Ashfire908
[15:34] <thiebaude> ashfire908:disable tracker
[15:35] <cappy_> is there anywhere log where i can see why its happening that ?
[15:35] <Ashfire908> I have.
[15:35] <cappy_> system log or something ?
[15:35] <ferric84> how can I upgrade to firefox RC1 in 8.04?
[15:35] <thiebaude> ashfire908:check your processes to see what's running
[15:36] <bazhang> ferric84, wait til it hits the repos
[15:36] <ferric84> ok
[15:36] <matthias_N> where can i change the mic level ?
[15:36] <Ashfire908> thiebaude, there's no thing telling me if the process is accessing the hard drive.
[15:36] <bazhang> alsamixer matthias_N
[15:36] <cappy_> matthias_N: in KMix ,there is option microphone boots ( +20 dB)
[15:37] <favro> I use verbose for boot and noticed a line that said " nvidia liscence has "tainted" the kernel" - what the bejeezus does that mean??
[15:37] <jeleta> help where is beryl i clicked the link to the website and it does not load
[15:37] <thiebaude> ashfire908:that is strange, i dont know what to say
[15:37] <bazhang> !beryl | jeleta
[15:37] <matthias_N> cappy_:  i guess yours is for kde i am usung genome ...
[15:37] <jeleta> so where do i get beryl
[15:37] <cappy_> yup, then try alsamixer
[15:38] <cappy_> like bazhang said
[15:38] <WGGMk> jeleta: dont use Beryl.... use Compiz Fusion
[15:38] <rinaldi_> is firefox 3 rc1 in the repos yet?
[15:38] <bazhang> jeleta, you dont-->compiz-fusion
[15:38] <negge> rinaldi_ is it released?
[15:38] <jeleta> oh ok thank you is it as good though
[15:38] <bazhang> rinaldi_, not yet
[15:38] <WGGMk> jeleta: its better
[15:38] <jeleta> sweet
[15:38] <rinaldi_> negge: http://digg.com/software/Firefox_3_RC1_Now_Available?OTC-ig
[15:38] <cappy_> its Beryl + compiz = compiz fusion
[15:38] <thiebaude> rinaldi:rc1 should be realeased at the end of may
[15:38] <Ashfire908> Noticed that trackerd is running despite it being disabled, how do I actually shut down trackerd?
[15:38] <WGGMk> jeleta: there were 2 projects Beryl & Compiz.. they combined efforts to make "Compiz Fusion"
[15:39] <hydrogen> that only covers half the battle
[15:39] <hydrogen> beryl forked because their coding standards were pretty horribly low
[15:39] <matthias_N> bazhang:  what is it named in alsa mixeer for mic ?, i have capture only, no mic ...
[15:39] <hydrogen> then they begged the compiz doods
[15:39] <hydrogen> and it got merged back in
[15:39] <cappy_> so is there anywhere something like system logs where i can see what system does do ?
[15:39] <hydrogen> and since then not mcuh has happened
[15:39] <hydrogen> except kwin is much cooler
[15:39] <hydrogen> :>
[15:39] <FloodBot2> hydrogen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:39] <bazhang> matthias_N, what about sound prefs
[15:39] <hydrogen> enough trollbait for yall?
[15:40] <matthias_N> bazhang: sigmatel ...
[15:40] <thiebaude> cappy-system log
[15:40] <cappy_> where is it ?
[15:41] <WGGMk> Im having an issue with Likewise Open, trying to join a domain and it keeps complaining about TCP/UDP ports being blocked. I have a WinXP Pro SP2 machine that is on the same network/subnet and is able to join perfectly fine. Any Help???
[15:41] <matthias_N> bazhang:  maybe understood you wrong where can i find sound preferance ?
[15:41] <thiebaude> cappy-system-administration-system log
[15:41] <cappy_> i found it ,ty
[15:42] <bazhang> matthias_N, in terminal type alsamixer
[15:42] <cypha> "During the previous startup. KNotify crashed while instantiating KNotify. Do you want to try again or disable aRTs sound output? If you choose to disable aRts output now, you can re-enable it later or select an alternate sound player in the System NOtifications control panel."
[15:42] <thiebaude> cappy-your welcomed
[15:42] <Vhozard> someone has the inverted (negtive) icon issiue in openoffice?
[15:42] <matthias_N> bazhang:   thanks let me check
[15:42] <cypha> i can TRy again or Disable aRts Output
[15:42] <TrX^^> how to i set my WIRELESS connection on ubintu ??
[15:43] <cypha> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument
[15:43] <cypha> what in the world is going on with my linux!
[15:43] <mc-george> hey, can anyone tell me when firefox 3 rc1 will be added to the update list?
[15:43] <matthias_N> bazhang:  mic have nothing
[15:43] <TrX^^> how to i set up my WIRELESS connection on ubintu ??
[15:43] <Vhozard> mc-george its alreadt added
[15:44] <mc-george> Vhozard, not for me :/
[15:44] <Vhozard> mc-george do you have 8.04?
[15:44] <mc-george> Vhozard, yes
[15:44] <favro>  I've tainted the kernel with a nvidia liscence - the driver was from the repos - how do I sort this out?
[15:44] <cappy_> hm,i dont see any errors :/
[15:44] <Vhozard> mc-george when you install package "firefox" does it install firefox 2 or firefox 3?
[15:45] <wols> favro: you can't. if you use closed source nvidia drivers, the kernel is tainted
[15:45] <wols> always
[15:45] <wols> if you don't load them, it isn't
[15:45] <louis> hi, in a maven project, how do I print the classpath contents?
[15:45] <matthias_N> bazhang:  mic says sound source only
[15:45] <mc-george> Vhozard, 8.04 came with firefox 3 beta 5 installed, but i want to update it to rc1
[15:45] <TrX^^> how to i set up my WIRELESS connection on ubintu ??
[15:45] <negge> wols what "tainted" mean?
[15:45] <TrX^^> ubuntu*
[15:45] <favro> wols: the driver was from the ubuntu repos - that's why I'm asking...
[15:45] <negge> does it change anything or what?
[15:46] <magical> no, means nothing
[15:46] <wols> favro: still a non-free driver
[15:46] <BSG75> I'm having trouble sending emails with attachments using both thunderbird and Evolution .. however I can send messages with no attachment just fine... any ideas?
[15:46] <magical> just licence stuff, doesn't break anything
[15:46] <cappy_> 17.05.2008 17,26,15	CappY	kdm[7628]	X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly
[15:46] <cappy_> 17.05.2008 17,26,15	CappY	kdm[7628]	X server terminated: [0, 0, 0]
[15:46] <cappy_> 17.05.2008 17,26,16	CappY	kdm[7628]	StartServerSucces
[15:46] <cappy_> ?
[15:46] <FloodBot2> cappy_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:46] <wols> tainted means there is closed source in the kernel now, which means kernel devs can't and won't help you troubleshoot if something goes wrong
[15:46] <WGGMk> !pastebin | cappy_
[15:46] <matthias_N> bazhang:  any idea how to get the row for volume ???
[15:46] <favro> wols: ok - so to sort the issue I should just use vesa then?
[15:47] <magical> favro, no, there is no issue to sort
[15:47] <magical> favro, it's fine how it is
[15:47] <favro> magical: it performs poorly
[15:47] <bazhang> matthias_N, make sure nothing is muted in alsamixer
[15:47] <magical> favro, the proprietary driver performs worse than vesa? D:
[15:47] <wols> favro: "nv", but then you have no 3D support at all
[15:47] <Vhozard> mc-george owh, sorry my fault. i thought you meant firefox beta... :$
[15:48] <mc-george> Vhozard, no rc1
[15:48] <matthias_N> bazhang:  if so how do i unmute ?, the text si in red ...
[15:48] <favro> wols: it is the nvidia-glx-legacy driver
[15:48] <mc-george> Vhozard, you know when RC1 will be added to updates?
[15:48] <BSG75> favro: it's the hippy part of linux :) we prefer open source .. however sometimes companies doesn't like to "share" their specs or open up their codes.. so linux is forced (to some degree) to provide "closed" code.  So instead of explaining it like a soap box like me .. they just say it's "tainted" :)
[15:48] <ubek> hi
[15:49] <Vhozard> mc-george no, i dont know that. sorry
[15:49] <ubek> anybody have been writing program such as wget?
[15:49] <mod_cure> apt-cache search perl <-- would that go out to the web and see what is aviable or would it check it locally(OS) ?
[15:49] <favro> BSG75: it is in the repos
[15:49] <wols> favro: what videocard? what chip?
[15:49] <mc-george> Vhozard, ok
[15:49] <bazhang> matthias_N, then go into sound prefs--this is for a mic or all system sound
[15:49] <matthias_N> bazhang:  i found it and it is not muted ...
[15:49] <matthias_N> bazhang:  this is for mic only ...
[15:49] <Vhozard> mc-george but you can download it ofcourse from mozilla's site :)
[15:50] <mc-george> Vhozard, when i do that it doesn't use certain plugins
[15:50] <bazhang> matthias_N, not sure then; usually checking alsamixer will do it
[15:50] <BSG75> favro: it's fine .. I am using closed driver for my nVidia card :)
[15:50] <kwan> bazhang: in the case of creating /boot partition, one is dedicating the partition for the kernel image, right?
[15:50] <matthias_N> bazhang:  thanks will try ...
[15:50] <Vhozard> mc-george you mean like flash and java?
[15:51] <mc-george> Vhozard, and other media plugins
[15:51] <BSG75> I'm having trouble sending emails with attachments using both thunderbird and Evolution .. however I can send messages with no attachment just fine... any ideas?
[15:51] <bazhang> brb
[15:51] <negge> BSG75 do you get any kind of error message?
[15:51] <cappy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12742/
[15:51] <cappy_> here is the system log
[15:52] <WGGMk> BSG75: firewall? virus scanner? home network or work?
[15:52] <favro> wols:riva tnt -64bsgno it's not - I get better performance from a card with half the mem on another comp using dapper
[15:52] <cappy_> that is the only 1 i found as reason to logout
[15:52] <favro> oops
[15:52] <Vhozard> mc-george so you need a deb package?
[15:52] <mc-george> Vhozard, yea
[15:53] <lUrkUr0> has anyone noticed that moving the mouse over the network pane under a system monitor panel slows your transfer?
[15:53] <void^> favro: memory and performance are almost entirely unrelated
[15:53] <sunnybg> hi. new install of hardy on hp nc4010 laptop (radeon chip). I have allocated 64MB to the graphic card, but still can not start the visual effects. How can I manually (CLI) try to start them, so I see what the problem is? Th etxt "can not start" is not very descriptive
[15:53] <Vhozard> mc-george sites like getdeb.net often have new versions, but im not sure about firefox
[15:53] <JontyO> hi
[15:53] <favro> void^: seems that installing dapper will solve the issue - hardy doesn't work for me
[15:53] <WGGMk> void^: is that a joke?
[15:54] <JontyO> anyone help with /sbin/modprobe on 8.04
[15:54] <wols> sunnybg: does 3D hardware acceleration work?
[15:54] <\\dan\\> how buggy is 8.04? i need to know that its going to be reasonably safe for me to upgrade a production machine to a release that seems to have the stability hallmarks of vista and windows as a whole
[15:54] <sunnybg> wols: how do I check?
[15:54] <JontyO> it says /sbin/modprobe abnormal exit
[15:54] <wols> sunnybg: glxinfo
[15:54] <wabiD> l went to places > connect to server > ssh, and now i cant delete the bookmark.  where is it saved
[15:54] <jbroome> \\dan\\: put it on a test machine and see how it is for your needs
[15:54] <mc-george> Vhozard, they don't have firefox
[15:54] <favro> I just wanted to know what "tainted kernel" meant....?
[15:54] <void^> WGGMk: no. unless you're talking about some extra fps in 3d games you won't suddenly get amazing performance by doubling video ram.
[15:54] <jbroome> works great for me
[15:54] <Dew420> \\dan\\ the only major bug that I have run into/heard of is with flash
[15:54] <JontyO> anyone help me/
[15:55] <favro> bye hardy
[15:55] <WGGMk> void^: well just in general.. memory & performance are directly related
[15:55] <sunnybg> wols: tons of info. what I'm looking for?
[15:55] <\\dan\\> ive heard of issues with pulse audio, compiz and now with flash
[15:55] <\\dan\\> anything else?
[15:55] <r> i booted xubuntu form a flash drive its so damn slow what to do
[15:55] <attila> java in firefox
[15:55] <Dew420> yeah, pulse audio + flash I have heard of..not compiz though
[15:55] <inubis> Je tu  někdo  kdo mě  pomůže  ?
[15:55] <Dew420> At least im not aware of me having any troubles o.O lol
[15:55] <Jonty> back
[15:55] <WGGMk> \\dan\\: why would you need compiz on a production machine?
[15:55] <wols> sunnybg: direct rendering yes
[15:55] <\\dan\\> i dont
[15:55] <inubis> my  Help
[15:55] <Jonty> can someone help me
[15:55] <attila> compiz + maple11 = broken
[15:55] <BSG75> WGGMK: firewall no.. virus scanner no .. I can telnet to gmail so network no
[15:55] <wols> !help | Jonty
[15:56] <WGGMk> BSG75: i mean are you at work or home?
[15:56] <wols> !helpme | JontyO
[15:56] <inubis> Help my  Ubuntu
[15:56] <BSG75> WGGMK: home
[15:56] <wols> !helpme | inubis
[15:56] <sunnybg> wols: I have it on the 3rd line
[15:56] <\\dan\\> !patience
[15:56] <wols> then it _should: wirk
[15:56] <void^> WGGMk: the topic was video memory.
[15:56] <cappy_> !xserver
[15:56] <cappy_> !x
[15:56] <inubis> Inubis  Czech
[15:57] <WGGMk> \\dan\\: i have experienced NO issues with 8.04 on both i386 & amd64, both work fine for my particular builds of hardware.... flash and compiz I wouldnt worry about on a production machine.. sound.. depending on what your doing.. but again i havent experiencing anything wrong
[15:57] <BSG75> WGGMK: could it be because I am using amd64?
[15:57] <inubis> Help by Alf
[15:57] <WGGMk> void^: I know, and still.. they are directly related..
[15:57] <WGGMk> BSG75: unlikely
[15:57] <WGGMk> BSG75: what error are you getting? if any
[15:57] <BSG75> WGGMK: yet when I logon to gmail using FF I can do everything just fine
[15:58] <r> need help i installed xubuntu to usb disk but still is very slow my pc is 256mb ram and 1.4ghzz pro
[15:58] <r> need help i installed xubuntu to usb disk but still is very slow my pc is 256mb ram and 1.4ghzz pro
[15:58] <BSG75> WGGMK: eventually it just times out
[15:58] <attila> memory speed is related to performance most of the time, the memory size is not so much (depending on the texture sizes...)
[15:58] <sunnybg> wols: nope, when I try to turn it on, it just flickers one time, and then displays: "Desktop effects could not be enabled". Both for Normal and Extra
[15:58] <kwan> Dew420: hi.  I'm glad you mentioned that b/c I just installed hardy on my laptop.  When I watch videos on youtube, it the video lags so badly that its almost unwatchable.   At first, I thought it was my laptop, then I thought it was a firefox buggie.  So, is the flash problem  a confirmed bug?
[15:58] <Chapai> nm-applet is not picking up any wireless ap?,
[15:58] <wabiD> l went to places > connect to server > ssh, and now i cant delete the bookmark.  where is it saved
[15:58] <matthias_N> bazhang:  thanks for your help but something is missing here ..
[15:58] <BSG75> WGGMK: says the smtp server is not there or accepting connection.. but if I take out attachment .. it works just fine :(
[15:58] <chenyong88> 我来了，
[15:58] <WGGMk> BSG75: how large is the attachment your trying to send.. im not too familiar with that application but perhaps there is a limit on size?
[15:58] <BSG75> WGGMK: 10-800k
[15:58] <matthias_N> bazhang:  are u good at printers
[15:58] <chenyong88> 有那为朋友在的
[15:59] <WGGMk> BSG75: who is your ISP? double check your SMTP settings
[15:59] <tv7497> !ubott
[15:59] <Vhozard> mc-george sorry, cant help you more.
[15:59] <tv7497> !ubot
[15:59] <BSG75> WGGMK: checked my smtp ... my ISP shaw in Canada
[15:59] <jbroome> !jp | chenyong88
[15:59] <Chapai> nm-applet is not picking up any wireless ap?,
[15:59] <chenyong88> 看不懂
[15:59] <r> need help i installed xubuntu to usb disk but still is very slow my pc is 256mb ram and 1.4ghzz pro
[15:59] <r> need help i installed xubuntu to usb disk but still is very slow my pc is 256mb ram and 1.4ghzz pro
[16:00] <void^> WGGMk: lots of video memory is often used in marketing, to sell cards with sub-par chips.
[16:00] <jbroome> r: no one is going to help you if you keep being a dick
[16:00] <mySQLNoob> Hi there, can anyone tell me why nmap won't work when I execute it in ubuntu running on VMWare??
[16:00] <kwan> Dew420, hello
[16:00] <WGGMk> BSG75: they may require Authentication for you to use their SMTP server, or they may have restrictions on attachments using their SMTP servers.. they may think your sending illegitimate files or something. I would call your ISP and see what they can do for you
[16:00] <mySQLNoob> i mean it works it just can't find anyone other than my own virtual machine and the router, noone else inside my network
[16:00] <r> ok iam not a dick help me now
[16:00] <jbroome> hahaha
[16:00] <attila> r, add more ram?
[16:00] <Dew420> Kwan, I believe iti s yeah
[16:00] <sunnybg> how do I manually (from CLI) enable compiz (visual effects) so I can see more detailed error messages?
[16:00] <Dew420> Kwan : I have heard people mentioned youtube crashing FF.
[16:00] <BSG75> WGGMK: even though I am using gmail?
[16:00] <r> not possible i hae ubuntu 6.06 how to i make that bootable
[16:01] <crdlb> sunnybg: just run 'compiz --replace'
[16:01] <Dew420> Kawn : I have yet to personally see it, It worked fine for me
[16:01] <cappy_> sunnybg: type  compiz --replace in console
[16:01] <sunnybg> crdlib: root or reg?
[16:01] <attila> reg
[16:01] <WGGMk> void^: im not getting into specifics.. im just pointing out what you said was basically incorrect... memory and performance are most certaintly related in any case. the more the better.. but the same goes for GPU/CPU/BUS speeds.. if there isnt an equal balance to utilize the memory its fruitless
[16:02] <WGGMk> BSG75: yes, your using a POP client which means your not e-mailing thru gmails servers.. your e-mailing thru your ISP's servers
[16:02] <sunnybg> crdlb, cappy: thanks.
[16:02] <kwan> Dew420, what's FF?  Any fixes or work arounds you could suggest?
[16:02] <WGGMk> BSG75: your only recieving e-mail from gmail's servers but it must go OUT thru your ISP before anything
[16:02] <attila> FF = firefox
[16:02] <sudobash> i dont think gmail supports full pop/smtp usage
[16:02] <favro> I get a message during boot - "nvidia liscence has tainted kernel" - what are the repercussions from this apart from poor performance?
[16:03] <jbroome> sudobash: actually it does
[16:03] <sudobash> which means they will limit what you can do
[16:03] <Dew420> kwan, FF = Firefox,
[16:03] <sudobash> are you sure?
[16:03] <sudobash> maybe that was yahoo i was thinking of
[16:03] <Dew420> Kwan, Which firefox are you using? 2 or ff3b5?
[16:03] <sunnybg> Now, Xgl not present... what should I do, glxinfo says direct rendering yes - so 3d is on.
[16:03] <prower> favro: Not really anything that you need to worry about as an end-user unless you're concerned particularly with how things are licensed
[16:03] <BSG75> WGGMK: true .. but why the heck would someone filter TLS and SSl traffic? but then again we are talking Shaw here .. they are definitely no the brightest crayon in the box.. well calling them.
[16:03] <prower> favro: And it shouldn't cause poor performance if you have an nvidia card :>
[16:03] <jbroome> sudobash: https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=86399   outgoing server name: smtp.gmail.com
[16:03] <crdlb> sunnybg: that's not the error message; look below that
[16:04] <favro> prower: it is the performance that I'm concerned about
[16:04] <CroX> What's the name of the default "monospace 12" font used in gnome-terminal?
[16:04] <Dew420> I have no problems with flash + FF + youtube o.O
[16:04] <WGGMk> BSG75: I know its similar with Comcast Cable in the US, they require authentication (basic Username & Password) to use their SMTP server.. some are more strict
[16:04] <kwan> Dew420: Hardy comes with FF3B5.
[16:04] <attila> favro, nvidia driver taints the kernel since its closed source
[16:04] <prower> favro: Ah, well that message coming up shouldn't have anything to do with performance issues
[16:04] <ksbalaji> Hi! I am updating Heron thru adept. It said that rss-glx is upgradable. I clicked request and I get Break(upgradable). Is it OK for me to proceed upgrading rss-glx? What is BREAK?
[16:04] <favro> prower: I get better performance with half the mem on another comp running dapper
[16:05] <attila> different vid card?
[16:05] <favro> *vid card mem
[16:05] <Dew420> Kwan : let me see if there is a fix yet. I think someone said yesterday they were working on it
[16:05] <zubu> i just upgraded to hardy but there seems to be a problem. 1.grub is showing two pairs of ubuntu 8.04 loaders .the first one starts with a screen and wide black rectangular patch in the centre of a white screen. while the other loader starts ubuntu in command mode asks for login but the screen keeps on flickering . finally the gui starts with some error prompt "low graphics like safemode setting" and then it shows the login page .after that the screen resolut
[16:05] <zubu> ion is altered and hardy is not able to recognise my graphics card .what should i do?
[16:05] <t|zz> hi everybody! i have a very old linux-distro installed on a even older notebook (1ghz intel chip). i now tried to install ubuntu, xubuntu respectively, but when i reach the grub to choose if i want to install/try or whatever test ubuntu it doesn't do anything when i hit enter (just the cdrom runs, as it sounds like...). it this a problem with my old notebook or what could it be? i can boot into a gentoo instalation-environment on cd, but not
[16:05] <t|zz> ubuntu...
[16:06] <Dew420> Kwan : also, you can install FF2 on hardy, so I was just seeing if you had
[16:06] <kwan> Dew420, so its not flash (like u mentioned b4).  I knew my laptop could at least handle youtube. lol
[16:06] <jeleta> where do i download compiz-fusion
[16:06] <favro> attila: I've never seen that line during boot before - that is the concern
[16:06] <r> ok i have crated a ubuntu usb stick its a live version so can i get fluxbox on it
[16:06] <r> ok i have crated a ubuntu usb stick its a live version so can i get fluxbox on it
[16:06] <rsk> jeleta: from the compiz-fusin website
[16:06] <sunnybg> crdlb: the other message is "Found laptop using ati driver"??? And then it says it falls back to metacity
[16:07] <r> this irc client its stupid it reapeats
[16:07] <r> this irc client its stupid it reapeats
[16:07] <litlebuda> t|zz, try xubuntu alternate install cd
[16:07] <jeleta> yea but it is so damn confusing i cant find a link to download it there
[16:07] <zubu>  i just upgraded to hardy but there seems to be a problem. 1.grub is showing two pairs of ubuntu 8.04 loaders .the first one starts with a screen and wide black rectangular patch in the centre of a white screen. while the other loader starts ubuntu in command mode asks for login but the screen keeps on flickering . finally the gui starts with some error prompt "low graphics like safemode setting" and then it shows the login page .after that the screen resolut
 ion is altered and hardy is not able to recognise my graphics card .what should i do?
[16:07] <jbroome> !patience|r
[16:07] <rinaldi_> t|zz: try using the alternate install cd
[16:07] <crdlb> sunnybg: ah, please join #compiz-fusuion
[16:07] <t|zz> litlebuda:  thanks, will download, whats the difference?
[16:07] <sidewalk> i turned on "restricted driver" for an nvidia card, and now my computer hangs
[16:07] <attila> favro, its completely normal, probably the previous versions didnt show it during the booting but it was there :)
[16:07] <sidewalk> fresh install
[16:07] <Dew420> Kwan : im not sure, a lot of people have mentioned flash problems
[16:08] <rinaldi_> t|zz: it's not graphical
[16:08] <mohan34u> zubu: check with 'dmesg' and find what type of card you have..
[16:08] <sunnybg> crdlb: thanks
[16:08] <sidewalk> anyone wanna help me out, how do i turn off "restricted drivers" ?
[16:08] <r> reflect that iam sorry holy volunteers i have comited a sin
[16:08] <jeleta> can you give me a direct link to download it
[16:08] <mehmeh> whats the command to switch the javac command to another java compiler?
[16:08] <litlebuda> t|zz, its in text mode install and has more options than the "normal" cd , its recomended for low mem or older computers
[16:08] <favro> attlbut the performance is lacking from previous installs - using dapper it was 20% better showing vids
[16:08] <t|zz> well but gentoo install cd has a framebuffer with splash, even quite-mode, but this can be booted from cd...
[16:08] <favro> hardy is the issue
[16:09] <void^> WGGMk: exactly, more memory can be fruitless, therefore more memory does not automatically result in better performance. you are, of course, right in saying the more the better - but it's like with money. having more of it is nice, but doesn't guarantee happiness. ;)
[16:09] <t|zz> ok thanks guys, will try
[16:09] <r> please dont show thy wrath on my weak sole all mighty
[16:09] <rouini> Firefox 3 is very slow what is the problem
[16:09] <zubu> mohan34u:that is alright but what about two ubuntu loaders ?
[16:09] <Frogzoo> rouini: best you can do is close it & restart it
[16:09] <attila> zubu, do "lspci |grep VGA" to find out what card you have
[16:10] <mohan34u> zubu: I didn't noticed your post.. what is that 2 loaders?
[16:10] <ksbalaji> Friends! sorry - I repeat my request.  Hi! I am updating Heron thru adept. It said that rss-glx is upgradable. I clicked request and I get Break(upgradable). Is it OK for me to proceed upgrading rss-glx? What is BREAK?
[16:10] <WGGMk> void^: I agree but, you said memory is almost entirely unrelated to performance which is not true.. lol anyway, we both know what we're talking about with different views.. =)
[16:10] <rouini> i do so many times Firefox 2 is better
[16:10] <tv7497> !ubottu
[16:10] <sidewalk> hello guys, how do i turn off restricted drivers (once installed) ?
[16:10] <Dew420> rouini FF2 is better then what?
[16:11] <sidewalk> my machine hangs when X starts
[16:11] <zubu> attila: it is showing my card. what next?
[16:11] <zubu> mohan34u: i just upgraded to hardy but there seems to be a problem. 1.grub is showing two pairs of ubuntu 8.04 loaders .the first one starts with a screen and wide black rectangular patch in the centre of a white screen. while the other loader starts ubuntu in command mode asks for login but the screen keeps on flickering . finally the gui starts with some error prompt "low graphics like safemode setting" and then it shows the login page .after that the scre
[16:11] <zubu> en resolut
 ion is altered and hardy is not able to recognise my graphics card .what should i do?
[16:11] <attila> zubu, find out what driver you need for it
[16:11] <rouini> then Firefox3
[16:11] <zubu> ok
[16:12] <Dew420> rouini : I see, hmm I don't know what everyones problem is lol
[16:12] <Frogzoo> is preload reliable on heron, or will I regret installing it??
[16:12] <mohan34u> zubu: is that 2nd option for recovery mode?
[16:12] <zubu> attila:what about 2 pairs of grub loaders (one is recovery and the other is the normal)  i just upgraded to hardy but there seems to be a problem. 1.grub is showing two pairs of ubuntu 8.04 loaders .the first one starts with a screen and wide black rectangular patch in the centre of a white screen. while the other loader starts ubuntu in command mode asks for login but the screen keeps on flickering . finally the gui starts with some error prompt "low graphi
[16:12] <zubu> cs like safemode setting" and then it shows the login page .after that the screen resolut
 ion is altered and hardy is not able to recognise my graphics card .what should i do?
[16:12] <zubu> mohan34u:yes
[16:12] <sidewalk> hello guys, how do i turn off restricted drivers (once installed) ?
[16:12] <yao> hello
[16:12] <rouini> is there any browser better than Firefox
[16:12] <kirkhelek> hi, i have a problem with my hardy heron, i can't run "sudo nautilus" or open a document with "gksu" on Sistem files, when i run sudo nautilus appears : initializing nautilus-shae extension seahorse nautilus module initialized. and five minutes later appears the windows but it freezing and i must to close the window
[16:13] <mohan34u> zubu: are you able to login properly in 1st option..?
[16:13] <zubu> so i have got 2 pairs of them along with windowss of course
[16:13] <zubu> mohan34u:no
[16:13] <mohan34u> what it says, if you choose 1st boot option?
[16:13] <letubenaiah> sidewalk: System >> Administration >> Hardware Drivers
[16:13] <zubu> it shows a white screen with a wide blak rectangular patch in the centre of the screen and then nothing
[16:13] <zubu> i just upgraded to hardy
[16:14] <yao> who can tell me how to use wine?thanks!
[16:14] <zubu> and had to restart the system
[16:14] <Dew420> yao
[16:14] <rouini> Dew420:is there any browser better than Firefox
[16:14] <yao> yes
[16:14] <Dew420> rouini : in my personal opinion, no
[16:14] <Dew420> yao, try #winehq for wine specific help
[16:15] <mohan34u> any gurus help zubu!! is there any way to start x with default resolution and not using nvidia or ati?
[16:15] <Dew420> Yao, usually just download the .exe you want to install and double click. Wine should open it
[16:15] <ksbalaji>  Friends! sorry to repeat my request. I am updating Heron through adept. It said that one rss-glx is upgradable. I clicked request and I got Break(upgradable) message. Is it OK for me to proceed upgrading rss-glx? What is BREAK?
[16:15] <Dew420> ksbalaji : give people time to help
[16:15] <zubu> yes it shows an X mouse cursor with a black screen
[16:16] <zubu> after that it shows an error.
[16:16] <rouini> Dew420: i am the only one i installed Ubuntu here
[16:16] <djoob> anyone know the command for giving www-data RW access to a file??
[16:16] <alapidas> Hi all - I recently upgraded my xorg and now my graphics are all screwed up.  My machine starts in safe graphics mode and the nvidia proprietary drivers arent even an there in the hardware list.  any ideas?
[16:16] <zubu> i click on continue
[16:16] <zubu> and then the lgin screen appears
[16:16] <MachinTrucChose> hi
[16:16] <djoob> Hello all anyone know the command for giving www-data RW access to a file??
[16:16] <Dew420> rouini : I didn't quite understand your last sentence
[16:16] <Dew420> !help djoob
[16:16] <mohan34u> zubu: do you know what card you have? nvidia or ATI?
[16:17] <Dew420> whoops :P
[16:17] <zubu> at he time of login screen it shows the normal mouse pointer
[16:17] <zubu> nvidia
[16:17] <djoob> Dew420: hi
[16:17] <CShadowRun> how do i search a bunch of files for one that contains "some word" ?
[16:17] <Dew420> djoob : don't spam your question ;( more then just you need help
[16:17] <djoob> !help read write access
[16:18] <djoob> !help permission
[16:18] <djoob> !help permissions
[16:18] <Dew420> haha nice response
[16:18] <rouini> Dew420:i am the only user of Ubuntu here in this country
[16:18] <Dew420> rouini where do you live?
[16:18] <djoob> !help file permissions
[16:18] <zubu> mohan34u:nvidia geforce 8400m gs
[16:18] <djoob> Man this bot is crazy
[16:18] <_gtt_> anyone got a link for steps to recreate all dsa keys due to the debian openssl flaw?
[16:19] <rouini> Dew420:i live in Algeria
[16:19] <mohan34u> zubu: sorry zubu.. I am not clear in howto make X to restrict to default.
[16:19] <Condoulo> Is there anything similar to VMWare Fusion for Ubuntu?
[16:19] <Dew420> rouini well, good job on choosing a decent os :P
[16:19] <ksbalaji> yao: you get wine automatically in Hardy. If you have gutsy, you can download it from www.winehq.org
[16:19] <orgy_> hi, in the console, how do i mv all files except one?
[16:19] <zubu> mohan34u:so what should i do?
[16:19] <Dew420> ksbalaji, wine comes with gusty too
[16:19] <orgy_> or cp
[16:20] <letubenaiah> djoob: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:20] <blue|palm> Is there any way to associate icons with file extensions in nautilus? My audacity .aup project files still look like text documents...
[16:20] <zubu> mohan34u:i am able to see the gui and operate on it. the about ubuntu also shows hardy heron.
[16:20] <termitor> hello, who have some gfxboot theme ? where dl someone ?
[16:20] <rouini> Dew:i try to help people here but no one interest
[16:21] <Dew420> rouini I try to help as well, but you solve one and then expected to solve all :(
[16:21] <mohan34u> zubu: are you able to see system menu?
[16:21] <zubu> mohan34u: but how to remove one of the two pairs of ubuntu hardy loaders and how to remove the remove the error in the second loader
[16:21] <zubu> yes
[16:21] <zubu> the GUI is fine
[16:21] <usser> termitor, you mean the ubuntu logo that appear when system is loading
[16:22] <usser> termitor, ?
[16:22] <rouini> Dew420:i am trying to help people install Ubuntu but here prefer windows
[16:22] <mohan34u> I am confused!! what is your exact problem..? you need to remove your 2nd bootload option?
[16:22] <termitor> usser: gfx grub loadeur , it graphical grub
[16:22] <sidewalk> can anyone help me fixing my resolution? i tried using restricted drivers, that didn't work, i tried using envyng-gtk, that doesn't work
[16:23] <MrObvious> !realplayer
[16:23] <sidewalk> how in the hell am i going to be able to change my resolution?
[16:23] <zubu> mohan34u:yes but numerically its the first loader and remove the error from the second ubuntu loader
[16:23] <weix> is there something in ubuntu that can be installed to update upgrade or reinstall other systems on a network running solely ubuntu?
[16:23] <usser> termitor, theres tons of this stuff on  gnome-look.org or kde-look.org and program called startupmanager allows for easy setup
[16:23] <weix> I would ask google this but i wouldnt know what to ask.
[16:23] <blue|palm> sidewalk, you might have to resort to xorg.conf
[16:23] <zubu> mohan34u:grub is showing three OSs
[16:23] <erUSUL> sidewalk: «gksudo displayconfig-gtk»
[16:23] <alapidas> Does anyone know how to reconfigure X on Hardy?
[16:24] <blue|palm> sidewalk, try what erUSUL said first
[16:24] <mohan34u> ok.. then.. install startupmanager from synaptic or apt-get
[16:24] <rouini> Dew420:is there any perfect theme you use
[16:24] <zubu> mohan34u:first is hardy heron then recovery then again hardy heron and then again recovery and the vista and ..
[16:24] <fevets> for some reason, in order to get wireless to work i have to 'sudo /etc/inet.d/networking restart' after i have logged in ?!?!?
[16:25] <Dew420> rouini , I have setup my gnome desktop etc to look how I want it to
[16:25] <ksbalaji> Dew420: you may be right.  I had problems with gutsy without wine and I downloaded. Thatś why I mentioned.
[16:25] <mohan34u> or go to /boot/grub/ and comment(#) out whatever you don't want in menu.lst file..
[16:25] <zubu> done downloadin
[16:25] <Dew420> rouini : try www.gnome-look.org
[16:25] <usser> zubu, the other options are probably older kernels
[16:25] <weix> is there something in ubuntu that can be installed to update upgrade or reinstall other systems on a network running solely ubuntu?
[16:25] <blue|palm> fevets, i dont know what the real problem is, but to help you could add that command to Sessions (System->preferences->Sessions)
[16:25] <Dew420> that might be wrong lol
[16:25] <amrik> Hey, has anyone here tested the new Firefox 3 RC1 on hardy?
[16:25] <weix> or is there a place someone can direct me?
[16:25] <blue|palm> fevets, then you dont have to run it yourself, gnome will do it for you
[16:26] <mhollisjr> how do you use traceroute6? no matter what host I give it it tells me unknown host, my dns are working properly
[16:26] <amrik> I would like to know if the stability is better than beta 5 and so worth upgrading immediately
[16:26] <mohan34u> I am using startupmanager for booting options.. I hope it will help you..
[16:26] <zubu> usser: i just upgraded to hardy and then restarted the sysstem
[16:26] <usser> zubu, yes its older gutsy kernel
[16:26] <monestri> mhollisjr, firewall?
[16:26] <orgy_> how to copy all files in a dir except for one in the shell?
[16:26] <rouini> Dew420:i know this site.are you a new user of Ubuntu or old one.
[16:26] <amrik> mhollisjr: don't use traceroute6, use traceroute
[16:26] <mhollisjr> monestri, none unless installed by default on ubuntu,
[16:26] <Dew420> rouini, I have been using ubuntu since... let me check I hae the disc somewhere
[16:27] <mohan34u> zubu: in startupmanager you have a choice to use only one kernel..
[16:27] <mhollisjr> amrik, traceroute is not installed by default traceroute6 is, there must be a reason and a way to use it
[16:27] <amrik> mhollisjr: traceroute6 only works on fully IPv6 networks. traceroute is what you want
[16:27] <mhollisjr> amrik, ahh alright, but given the right circumstances it would succesfully resolve?
[16:27] <cavala_jc> hola?
[16:27] <zubu> mohan34u:this is what the menu list looks like:
[16:27] <zubu> title		Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-16-generic
[16:27] <zubu> root		(hd0,3)
[16:27] <zubu> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root=UUID=defec752-1475-4068-9a77-7a8f8867bba0 ro quiet splash
[16:27] <zubu> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic
[16:27] <zubu> quiet
[16:27] <zubu> title		Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-16-generic (recovery mode)
[16:27] <zubu> root		(hd0,3)
[16:28] <zubu> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root=UUID=defec752-1475-4068-9a77-7a8f8867bba0 ro single
[16:28] <zubu> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic
[16:28] <jbroome> !flood | zubu
[16:28] <zubu> title		Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[16:28] <weix> I just need a bit of information to toss into google so i have an idea where to start looking.
[16:28] <zubu> root		(hd0,3)
[16:28] <zubu> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=defec752-1475-4068-9a77-7a8f8867bba0 ro quiet splash
[16:28] <Dew420> rouini, Ubuntu 6.06 is when I started to use Ubuntu
[16:28] <eth01> !flood
[16:28] <zubu> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[16:28] <Lynet> Does not exactly explain why traceroute6 is installed by default and traceroute isn't. The latter is kinda more useful in the normal case.
[16:28] <zubu> quiet
[16:28] <zubu> title		Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
[16:28] <zubu> root		(hd0,3)
[16:28] <zubu> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=defec752-1475-4068-9a77-7a8f8867bba0 ro single
[16:28] <Dew420> rouini, however I started with Kubuntu a little before that
[16:28] <zubu> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[16:28] <amrik> mhollisjr: yes it would, in theory. for example if you lived in japan I think it would work since everything over there is IPv6
[16:28] <zubu> title		Ubuntu 8.04, memtest86+
[16:28] <zubu> root		(hd0,3)
[16:28] <zubu> kernel		/boot/memtest86+.bin
[16:28] <rsk> why dosen't he get banned ?
[16:28] <erUSUL> !paste | zorrolero
[16:28] <Lynet> !paste | zubu
[16:28] <zubu> quiet
[16:28] <mohan34u> zubu: you did a mess!!!
[16:28] <mhollisjr> amrik or at least till the route left the country, ok thank you
[16:28]  * erUSUL where is FloodBot ???
[16:28] <rouini> Dew420:i prefer gnome .i began with 7.10
[16:28] <zubu> sorry all of you
[16:29] <zubu> realy sorry
[16:29] <Lynet> !paste | zubu
[16:29] <eth01> !ops | zubu flooding
[16:29] <sunnybg> crdlb: this channel is empty, I was the only one there
[16:29] <erUSUL> zorrolero: sorry tab completion error
[16:29] <zubu> didnt kno that
[16:29] <Dew420> rouini, I also prefer gnome hence I use it now :P
[16:29] <hydrogen>  ...
[16:29] <eth01> oh damn, that's come late.
[16:29] <hydrogen> eth01: that was probably the worst use of a !ops ever
[16:29] <eth01> lag..
[16:29] <jbroome> wtg
[16:29] <t|zz> alternate-cdrom works here, thanks a lot guys!
[16:29] <Dew420> I think people need to make better icon sets for gnome. Mehb one day i'll get around to it
[16:29] <ksbalaji> rouini: Nice to know that you are here to help. Can you pl resolve my prob? I am updating Heron through adept. It said that one rss-glx is upgradable. I clicked request and I got Break(upgradable) message. Is it OK for me to proceed upgrading rss-glx? What is BREAK?
[16:29] <mohan34u> zubu: don't edit /boot/grub/menu.lst unless you know what you are doing...
[16:30] <zubu> i haveent yet changed it
[16:30] <mohan34u> use startupmanager
[16:30] <Dew420> ksbalaji, I have tried to find reference to that problem somewhere, and I have found no results
[16:30] <mhollisjr> mohan34u, where is startup manager?
[16:30] <hydrogen> Dew420: you do realize that an icon set has one metric boatload of icons in it... right?
[16:30] <CShadowRun> Anyone know how i can search for files containing <text> ?
[16:30] <hydrogen> It's not really something that you "get around to"
[16:30] <mohan34u> mhollisjr: its for customize booting option..
[16:31] <Dew420> hydrogen : yeah, but all the icon sets on gnme-look are ugly and don't match my themes :P
[16:31] <mhollisjr> mohan34u, where is it not what is it
[16:31] <amrik> so back to my original question. How stable is Firefox 3 rc1 on hardy?
[16:31] <termitor> mohan34u: i know what i'm do , but , i'm search gfxboot theme with babe or sexy girl :-p
[16:31] <Dew420> the colors
[16:31] <Botulinum> I just got threw installing UBUNTU. Now when it loads up it goes to this screen with alot of flashy colors and blinking lights... any idea whats wrong ???
[16:31] <attila> CShadowRun, grep -Hhrn <text> *
[16:31] <mhollisjr> mohan34u, nevermind not installed ^^
[16:31] <CShadowRun> thanks
[16:31] <zubu> it is showing all the os's but i dont want it to become the default os.
[16:31] <Dew420> ksbalaji, just click okay. I think that may be what came up on mine as well
[16:31] <rsk> Botulinum: you got the christmas edition?
[16:31] <rouini> ksbalaji: go to synaptic and look for break software
[16:31] <attila> CShadowRun, only do it in specific directories, otherwise it will take ages :p
[16:32] <CShadowRun> attila yup :)
[16:32] <Botulinum> I dunno whats going on
[16:32] <weix> I dont mean to be a pest but i have like 6 computers in my home that i have to manage
[16:32] <mohan34u> zubu: which one..
[16:32] <mohan34u> zubu: and where you are talking about? menu.lst?
[16:32] <crdlb> sunnybg: #compiz-fusion  make sure you spell it correctly
[16:32] <rouini> Dew420:is there any software like skype in Ubuntu
[16:32] <Botulinum> Has any one got a problem like that before ?
[16:33] <saltedlight> hi. i have a problem with inkscape on ubuntu 8.04. after i have instaled it with add/remove, like usual, it was started only once by another user on this system. now the problem is that _no one_ can start inkscape again on this system, even with root privileges (had to try to be sure). what may be the reason? any sugestions to get it working? please...
[16:33] <jbroome> rouini: yes, skype
[16:33] <zubu> mohan34u:before upgrading to hardy i was able to choose the OS from the boot loader
[16:33] <Chepra> Hello, i have a problem with my xorg.conf, it takes the x.org.failsafe by standard, how to fix that that it takes my normal xorg.conf?
[16:33] <weix> any ideas?
[16:33] <Santanafan1|GTA> @stats Zezima
[16:33] <Dew420> rouini ; erm lol. I am not sure :P
[16:33] <{Firemaker}> lol @ Santanafan1|GTA
[16:33] <mohan34u> zubu: now also you can..
[16:33] <{Firemaker}> Santanafan1|GTA, this is for linux
[16:33] <usser> rouini, ekiga, twinkle but they actually use open network not compatible to skype
[16:33] <sunnybg> crdlb: I just clicked on your post. anyway, this time it worked. thanks
[16:33] <attila> @stats
[16:33] <zubu> mohan34u ya but it is showing 2 pairs of ubuntu 8.04 loaders
[16:33] <Dew420> rouini, skype has a version on their website for linux
[16:34] <jbroome> !skype | rouini
[16:34] <crdlb> sunnybg: sorry, I typoed the first time :)
[16:34] <Santanafan1|GTA> rofl :P
[16:34] <{Firemaker}> >;-D
[16:34] <{Firemaker}> 1.4k users ftw
[16:34] <eric> my desktop has a partitioned hard drive with one part running windows and the other running ubuntu.  the windows partition got messed up somehow and now it won't load.  on top of that, the grub screen stopped loading a while back so i never had the choice to load to ubuntu.  now i'm wondering if it's possible to get my grub screen back, go into linux, and save my files from there.  does anyone know if that would work/be possible?
[16:34] <mohan34u> zubu: thats why I am saying.. try to install startupmanager it will help you to configure boot options correctly..
[16:34] <amrik> saltedlight: can you type ls -al `which inkscape`
[16:34] <mobst3r> is there a boot iso for 8.04 ?
[16:34] <{Firemaker}> eric, pm me
[16:34] <btpl> I need help with samba. i can access the share from an MS box, but it ends up giving me a "cannot read from source file/disk" error after a moment. if i reopen the window, its fine for another moment. smb.conf == http://paste.ubuntu.com/12746/
[16:35] <Dew420> eric, yes it is possible to restore your grub
[16:35] <jeleta> how do install compize-fusion
[16:35] <rouini> Dew420: shall we talk in skype
[16:35] <bazhang> !ccsm | jeleta
[16:35] <Chepra> Noone can help me?
[16:35] <wy> gosh! My NTFS partition was corrupted by ubuntu!
[16:35] <mobst3r> jeleta : apt-get install compiz-fusion
[16:35] <Dew420> Rouini , I do not have it installed and rarely use it :S
[16:35] <mohan34u> zubu: or edit /boot/grub/menu.lst manually..(comment out options you don't want)
[16:35] <eric> {Firemaker}: i'm a huge nub and don't know how to do that...
[16:36] <wy> What can I do?
[16:36] <newbie_> hello, is there any application on ubuntu that is similar to autocad, or that could let me open and visualize an autocad file?
[16:36] <zubu> mohan34u:that is ok but why is it showing two ubuntu loaders?
[16:36] <mobst3r> is there a boot iso for 8.04 ?
[16:36] <t|zz> ok people, when xubuntru tries to enable the framebuffer my display gets corrupted, and i can't see anything but strange colors... i can reboot with crtl+alt+del but i can't see anything. how can i boot the alternate-install-cd without framebuffer?
[16:36] <bazhang> wy that sounds unlikely
[16:36] <saltedlight> amrik, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8234216 2008-04-08 00:42 /usr/bin/inkscape
[16:36] <mohan34u> I don't know!!! is there any ubuntu developers here???
[16:36] <mysterioso> i have a question!   when I login to a new user using the user switcher at the top of the screen,  it works, when I try to switch back to the previous user, my screen goes white.  how do I fix it?
[16:36] <zubu> zubu:will a single # before the OS in menu list work as a comment
[16:36] <nlindblad> Shouldn't the HT=on flag re-enable HyperThreading?
[16:36] <rouini> Dew420:in that reason i don't prefer skype
[16:37] <eric> i'm sorry to be a nub, how do you pm somebody in pidgin irc?  do i just click 'new instant message' and put in their username?
[16:37] <nlindblad> Or has it been removed at kernel level?
[16:37] <wy> bazhang: That's true. No I can't copy some of the files and the disk check program report it can't complete the check
[16:37] <mohan34u> zubu: yes..
[16:37] <jbroome> eric: /msg <nick>
[16:37] <zubu> mohan34u: what about my previous question
[16:37] <eric> jbroome: thanks
[16:37] <Dew420> newbie__ http://www.linuxcad.com
[16:37] <jeleta> when i open my windows tab i get this error "Window manager "compiz" has not registered a configuration tool"
[16:37] <attila> zubu, when does it show the second grub? After you select one in the first?
[16:37] <wy> I should have be careful not to write to NTFS, but it seems ubuntu thinks that function is robust enough
[16:37] <saltedlight> mysterioso, just enter your password and you are good to go. i have the same problem some times, but not all the time...
[16:37] <mohan34u> zubu: for one os.. I thinks 3 or 4 lines will be there.. you need to comment out to not appear in grub menu..
[16:38] <bazhang> jeleta, install simple-ccsm
[16:38] <mohan34u> zubu: what is your previous question?
[16:38] <jeleta> i did install that
[16:38] <ksbalaji> dew420: and rouini ofcourse - thanks! bye.
[16:38] <mysterioso> saltedlight enter my password in the white screen?
[16:38] <saltedlight> yes
[16:38] <leviwinks> Hello
[16:38] <leviwinks> I am having a problem
[16:38] <zubu> all the six lines or just the first line?
[16:39] <leviwinks> when I try to view a page on 4chan.org in firefox, it wont display
[16:39] <leviwinks> I have to scroll up and down to make it appear
[16:39] <jbroome> leviwinks: that doesn't sound like a problem to me
[16:39] <Dew420> ksbalaji : no problem
[16:39] <mohan34u> zubu: all the six lines..
[16:39] <amrik> saltedlight: try running strace inkscape and see if anything tell-tale shows up; also check the directory that inkscape is installed in (usually /usr/share/inkscape) and make sure it has the right permissions. Also you can try moving your ~/.inkscape  settings folder to ~/.inkscape.backup to see if that is the problem
[16:39] <zubu> ok
[16:39] <leviwinks> its like the previous page is stuck on top
[16:39] <leviwinks> its a problem lol
[16:39] <leviwinks> I need my 4chon
[16:39] <bazhang> leviwinks, offtopic
[16:39] <leviwinks> uhm no
[16:39] <rouini> Dew420:from which country you chat with me
[16:39] <nlindblad> Does anyone know if HyperThreading has been completely removed?
[16:39] <jeleta> bazhang i did install simple-ccsm
[16:39] <Dew420> rouini : usa
[16:39] <leviwinks> Im asking for help with a problem in firefox
[16:40] <mohan34u> zubu: backup menu.lst to some other name(eg: menu.lst.backup) before you edit..
[16:40] <newbie_> is there any autocad viewer that is free?
[16:40] <mysterioso> saltedlight that is interesting.  What is failing to show up ?  can I change it?
[16:40] <dury> hi there channel
[16:40] <dury> :)
[16:40] <Dew420> newbie_ http://www.linuxcad.com
[16:40] <leviwinks> can you help me plz
[16:40] <Metox> Hi. can Ubuntu provide ore than 2 worksapces?
[16:40] <bazhang> !ot | leviwinks
[16:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Metox yes
[16:40] <rouini> Dew420:that is great in USA and using Ubuntu
[16:41] <weix> is there something in ubuntu that can be installed to update upgrade or reinstall other systems on a network running solely ubuntu?
[16:41] <ljsoftnet> is there a way to play trailer in http://www.apple.com/trailers/?
[16:41] <btpl> Metox: yes, right click the workspace icon and select preferences, the option is in there
[16:41] <dury> is there a package for lame application
[16:41] <leviwinks> UBOTTU
[16:41] <saltedlight> mysterioso, i'm not sure... sorry can't help more with this...
[16:41] <leviwinks> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH UBUNTU
[16:41] <amenado> weix unclear requirements, please clarify
[16:41] <leviwinks> I KNOW THIS IS THE SUPPORT SECTION
[16:41] <bittin> !ask leviwinks
[16:41] <Jack_Sparrow> leviwinks Please lose the caps
[16:41] <bazhang> caps leviwinks
[16:41] <leviwinks> goddamn
[16:41] <leviwinks> -.-
[16:41] <jbroome> see what 4chan does to people
[16:41] <Metox> Man that was too easy - thanks - Ubuntu Geeks is tops!
[16:41] <Dew420> leviwinks
[16:42] <mworth> I am in the process of upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04, however it appears to have stopped whilst 'installing the upgrades' it has been stopped at 'p bluetooth services' for quite a long time
[16:42] <Dew420> what is your problem to start with, and calm down.
[16:42] <Jack_Sparrow> leviwinks Please lose the caps and watch your language, we keep a family friendly channel
[16:42] <bittin> ljsoftnet: get some quicktime codec and it may work
[16:42] <amenado> mworth-> do a fresh install, why an upgrade?
[16:42] <dury> http://lame.sourceforge.net/links.php
[16:42] <ljsoftnet> bittin how?
[16:42] <weix> amenado, im looking to make sure that once my family's computers are running i can administer them completely from the commandline or gui with minimal effort/intervention
[16:42] <leviwinks> it has nothing to do with 4chan
[16:42] <monestri> Why do I get a blank screen on ctrl+alt+f1?
[16:42] <bittin> leviwinks: whats the problem?
[16:42] <leviwinks> it is its formatting
[16:42] <bigmcq77_> join #boob
[16:42] <weix> amenado, does that help?
[16:42] <Dew420> leviwinks, what is your problem.
[16:42] <leviwinks> When I visit pages on 4chan, the previous page gets stuck on top
[16:42] <dobled> hey hey conectado
[16:42] <mysterioso> saltedlight thanks
[16:43] <dobled> ...alguien de chilito lindo
[16:43] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, that's an easy one to solve
[16:43] <mworth> amenado, why do a fresh install? I have all the apps I want and have got all the settings (especially for my 4 monitors) the way I want them
[16:43] <leviwinks> Its like its stuck, I have to scroll up and down to "scrape" it off
[16:43] <rouini> Dew420: i am using ktorrent it is good or not
[16:43] <amenado> weix-> nope, its a very broad requirement, you have not even said what os those other host are running
[16:43] <Daisuke_Ido> avoid 4chan like the plague, it's nothing but evil
[16:43] <leviwinks> sigh
[16:43] <jeleta> how do i make myself root to istall compize
[16:43] <amenado> mworth-> as you found out...upgrading...
[16:43] <eric> my desktop has a partitioned hard drive with one part running windows and the other running ubuntu.  the windows partition got messed up somehow and now it won't load.  on top of that, the grub screen stopped loading a while back so i never had the choice to load to ubuntu.  now i'm wondering if it's possible to get my grub screen back, go into linux, and save my files from there.  does anyone know if that would work/be possible?
[16:43] <leviwinks> Its not 4chan that im worried about
[16:43] <Dew420> rouini, I personally use azureus
[16:43] <leviwinks> its just the only website so far that Ive seen do this
[16:43] <bazhang> leviwinks, take the chat elsewhere please
[16:43] <stefano> !list
[16:43] <mysterioso> jeleta sudo???
[16:43] <void^> leviwinks: ff3/cairo issue, thought it was fixed? works for me anyways. just use ff2 if you're troubled.
[16:43] <weix> amenado, the intention is to run all of them with ubuntu my desktop being the administrator.
[16:44] <jeleta> ok
[16:44] <Daisuke_Ido> leviwinks: seriously though, i've not seen that issue ever come up with firefox
[16:44] <mworth> amenado, Ive used the upgrader in the past for other upgrades- is this one not properly working then?
[16:44] <jim_beam> in compiz i have four desktops.  A cube has six faces.  is it possible to have desktops on the caps
[16:44] <leviwinks> hm
[16:44] <rouini> Dew420:why all people in usa using azureus
[16:44] <Jack_Sparrow> jim_beam no
[16:44] <leviwinks> Ill try FF3 RC1
[16:44] <crdlb> jim_beam: no, but you can have a hexagonal prism
[16:44] <ljsoftnet> is there a way to play trailer in http://www.apple.com/trailers/?
[16:44] <knifepoint> does anyone know how to neatly display source code in open office
[16:44] <jim_beam> how hex
[16:44] <Dew420> rouini, it's known, it works, it's good
[16:44] <amenado> weix yes it is possible, you have to tools in your fingertips, again you have not really made clear what would you like to control, there is no one single app to control everything.
[16:44] <monestri> Can someone help me fix touchpad scroll wheel?
[16:44] <dobled> nadie que hable español..............
[16:44] <monestri> http://paste.php.lv/7400?lang=php
[16:44] <mattro2> I accidentally uninstalled ucf the other day and now my computer only opens to terminal. can anyone help?
[16:44] <stefano> salve
[16:44] <bazhang> !es
[16:45] <saxofoner> does anyone have teh link to an updated wacom tutorial?
[16:45] <crdlb> jim_beam: by changing ccsm > General Options > Horizontal Virtual Size to 6
[16:45] <knifepoint> eg enclose the source code in a type of text box to make it nice formatting (i already tried openoffic.org and no answer)
[16:45] <saxofoner> found it never mind
[16:45] <jim_beam> ccsm??
[16:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm
[16:45] <crdlb> jim_beam: "Advanced desktop effects settings"
[16:45] <mysterioso> Will Ubuntu Studio upgrade with its features to 8.04?
[16:45] <amenado> mworth i suspect you will come across issues when doing upgrade, a fresh install imho is cleaner..yes you hve to reconfigure settings but thats less problematic than what you are facing now
[16:45] <rouini> Dew420:did know some sites of torrents
[16:45] <erUSUL> !es | dobled
[16:46] <weix> amenado, true ok well one of two things i would like to do is one install the ubuntu os on the remote computers via my desktop and the other just ensure upgrades are all done properly and on time
[16:46] <monestri> http://paste.php.lv/7400?lang=php
[16:46] <monestri> Can someone help me fix touchpad scroll wheel?
[16:46] <mworth> amenado, will it cause big problems if I just kill the upgrader or will I have to find a bunch of settings its changed and put them back?
[16:46] <ljsoftnet> is there a way to play trailer in http://www.apple.com/trailers/?
[16:46] <weix> amenado, i figure the upgrades can be done with some fancy ssh trickery so thats not a huge issue but something like that would be exellent (and my apologies for being persistant)
[16:47] <white_eagle> how can I renew my Ip adress in linux?
[16:47] <amenado> mworth i am not aware of any way to downgrade, or backout of an upgrade
[16:47] <white_eagle> what should I type in the terminal
[16:47] <vendieta> I have all codecs and all latest version of all and I cant play original dvd :(
[16:47] <mysterioso> is it possible for me to install Half-Life 2 on my system?  And run it properly?
[16:47] <Pollywog> is there a phone dialer for Linux so I can make regular phone calls from the keyboard instead of the physical phone?
[16:47] <Pollywog> I do not mean VoIP
[16:47] <jim_beam> how about verticle
[16:47] <bazhang> !wine | mysterioso
[16:47] <amrik> white_eagle: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:47] <Varanger> hello! How I make a diskette image from a couple of files?
[16:47] <Dew420> mysterioso, with steam or non-steam?
[16:47] <mysterioso> bazhang I have wine.
[16:48] <mysterioso> dew420 ?
[16:48] <white_eagle> amrik: thanks
[16:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb | mysterioso
[16:48] <Dew420> HL2, do you use steam?
[16:48] <Dew420> in other words, do you have a legal copy ori llegal
[16:48] <Dew420> lol
[16:48] <amenado> weix its okay to be persistent..yes you can set up elaborate system to do an upgrade remotely..or as you have said ssh in to a remote host and executing the upgrade
[16:48] <zubu> mohan34u:how do i change my screen resolution
[16:48] <bazhang> !piracy | Dew420
[16:48] <mysterioso> dew420 I have a stack of cds
[16:48] <rouini> Dew420:thanks a lot
[16:48] <ljsoftnet> is there a way to play trailer in http://www.apple.com/trailers/?
[16:48] <mysterioso> in a box
[16:49] <amenado> Pollywog-> and what device do you have to make the actual dialing to your POTS ?
[16:49] <Pollywog> amenado: via modem
[16:49] <Dew420> mysterioso, google installing steam in wine
[16:49] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsoftnet THose work for me here
[16:49] <mysterioso> dew420 ok
[16:49] <mattro2> I cannot get my computer to open past terminal, any ideas?
[16:50] <Pollywog> amenado: like what Windows does with dialer.exe
[16:50] <jim_beam> my screensaver flickers using fglrix and radeon is that because im using the opensource driver
[16:50] <zubu> attila:how do i change my screen resolution
[16:50] <rouini> Dew:thepiratesby is from which countery
[16:50] <bazhang> ljsoftnet, sure just click on them
[16:50] <amenado> Pollywog-> yes you can use wvdial to issue Hayes AT commands and dial out..now to pickup the reciever to answer and connect it to your voice source ..not sure
[16:50] <humbolto> Why has alsa dmix been disabled in Hardy?
[16:50] <Daisuke_Ido> jim_beam: since fglrx isn't open source, though
[16:51] <bazhang> rouini, that talk is not welcome here thanks
[16:51] <amrik> humbolto: didn't its functionality get replaced by pulseaudio?
[16:51] <Dew420> yeah I was talkin to him in pm :/ lol
[16:51] <amenado> Pollywog-> i dont remember what dialer.exe does..how do you then want to answer the phone line?
[16:51] <weix> amenado, is there some kind of web gui that can be installed to one computer to take care of all the things that would be done locally on a remote computer?
[16:51] <Pollywog> amenado: thanks, I had not thought of that, I thought wvdial was only for starting PPP sessions... thanks
[16:51] <jim_beam> got it but what about the flicker
[16:51] <weix> amenado, i do recall something that could do something like this but i cant remember the name.
[16:51] <rouini> bazhang: i am sorry
[16:51] <Daisuke_Ido> no clue
[16:51] <Pollywog> amenado: I just need it for dialing out
[16:51] <karel_> Hi, I've winxp and ubuntu installed on a hd, can I move the partitions to another hd (in the same pc) using a gparted cd or wouldn't that work?
[16:51] <zubu> how can i change my screen resolution?
[16:51] <monestri> Can someone help me fix touchpad scroll wheel please?
[16:51] <monestri> http://paste.php.lv/7400?lang=php
[16:52] <amenado> weix i cant recall the name of the gui either
[16:52] <humbolto> amrik: There are still tons of apps that are unable to use pulseaudio. Therefore you can not play from these and from a pulse app at the same time.
[16:52] <mysterioso> !pastebin
[16:52] <wy> Strange. All the files created by Ubuntu into NTFS is said to be corrupted.
[16:52] <amenado> Pollywog-> well wvdial can do the dialing
[16:52] <weix> amenado, but it does sound like something that could be done?
[16:52] <Pollywog> amenado: probably, I had not thought of it
[16:52] <humbolto> amrik: Don't understand why to sacrifice this additional layer of compartibility.
[16:52] <dot_> what drivers should I use on linux ubuntu 8.04 if I have ases geforce fx 5200 3d card
[16:52] <amenado> Pollywog-> then you have to write scripts and such after..
[16:52] <bazhang> wy more likely a permissions issue;what you say is unlikely in the extreme
[16:53] <ljsoftnet> jack_sparrow do you have mplayer?
[16:53] <Jack_Sparrow> monestri what does that link have to do with your scroll wheel.. Please tell us what the problem really is with it
[16:53] <Pollywog> amenado: oh I see I am not explaining it well
[16:53] <amenado> weix-> oh yeah, it can be done indeed, if not with gui, cli off course is readily available
[16:53] <mysterioso> I found this for installing Steam.  Is this the easiest way?   http://fedorasolved.org/gaming-solutions/installing-steam-using-wine
[16:53] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsoftnet I would imagine I do..
[16:53] <cypha> i get an error about KNotify crashing when i press the X on amarok (i'm using Gnome, and amarok is a KDE app)
[16:53] <cypha> afterwards, i get no sound
[16:53] <cypha> any idea how to fix this?
[16:53] <Pollywog> amenado: I want to make REGULAR calls from my computer and talk using a heaset/mic
[16:53] <wy> bazhang: Maybe... I just hope it's not serious problem
[16:53] <Pollywog> headset
[16:53] <cypha> or am i not allowed to use amarok?
[16:53] <amrik> humbolto: yes, I also had this same issue with VMware. I can't remember the exact solution, but you can basically pulseaudio can create the /dev/ virtual devices and you can use these for the applications that arent compatible
[16:53] <ljsoftnet> jack_sparrow is there a way to play trailer in http://www.apple.com/trailers/?
[16:54] <Pollywog> rather than the regular telephone handset
[16:54] <bazhang> ljsoftnet, aye, just click on them
[16:54] <Filox> hello to everyone.......
[16:54] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsoftnet I said I just did.. I have one up right now for monster camp
[16:54] <monestri> http://paste.php.lv/7400?lang=php ?? the problem is it's not working?!
[16:54] <amenado> Pollywog-> well after you make it dial, your scripts has to put the connection to sleep while you're having the voice convo,
[16:54] <monestri> Stops after a coupe hours of use
[16:54] <stefano> salve
[16:54] <monestri> at seemingly random points in time
[16:54] <dury> skype works great on 8.04 lts
[16:54] <bazhang> !it | stefano
[16:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !doesntwork | monestri
[16:54] <Pollywog> amenado: thanks
[16:54] <ljsoftnet> bazhang i can't play those trailers in firefox
[16:54] <Filox> I have a problem I can send file from pc to phone via bluetooth but not viceversa..... any help?
[16:54] <Wobbo> i can't figure out if my sli is working, if i type 'lspci -t' i get the same overview with sli bridge, without, and using 3 way sli bridge
[16:54] <monestri> ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[16:54] <amenado> Pollywog-> you're modem has interface for your mic i hope
[16:54] <monestri> funny
[16:55] <dury> couldn't use it under 7.04
[16:55] <max__> Connecting to my samba share, I get Connection Refused.   Do I need to forward a port in my router?
[16:55] <bazhang> ljsoftnet, install the mplayer plugin
[16:55] <Pollywog> amenado: it would not need one... I guess I will have to use XP if I want to do this
[16:55] <monestri> the scroll wheel stops working, I don't know how to be more specific,
[16:55] <BSG75> anyone know how to get blackberry pearl to work under ubuntu?
[16:55] <ljsoftnet> bazhang how?
[16:55] <mewt> HI everyone, I'd like to get pae support in my 32-bit desktop ubuntu hardy, anyone know of any tutorials that will help me achieve this ?
[16:55] <Jack_Sparrow> monestri the next time it does that .. type this in a terminal..  sudo modprobe -r psmouse ; sudo modprobe psmouse
[16:55] <Filox> I have a problem I can send file from pc to phone via bluetooth but not viceversa..... any help?
[16:55] <bazhang> synaptic ljsoftnet
[16:55] <Pollywog> or else just buy a different telephone with plugs for handset/mic
[16:55] <monestri> next time?
[16:55] <compengi> !hardy
[16:55] <monestri> it's not working right now
[16:56] <karel_> Hi, I've winxp and ubuntu installed on a hd, can I move the partitions to another hd (in the same pc) using a gparted cd or wouldn't it boot from there?
[16:56]  * emma *smiles*
[16:56] <MFietje> :)
[16:56] <amrik> mewt: one quick way is to install the server kernel and boot into that
[16:56] <Jack_Sparrow> monestri so you would then do what I just said eh
[16:56] <amenado> Pollywog-> no one is stopping you, to do those, you are trying to use an equipment designed for something else, but hey thats what innovators do..all power to them
[16:56] <max__> karel_, dont move your partitions.  big trouble you will have.
[16:56] <ljsoftnet> bazhang i don't see any mplayer plugin in synaptic
[16:56] <mewt> amrik, i thought of that, but i dont want to end up using deadline as my scheduler :/ which is why i started looking into getting pae suport for my current desktop kernel
[16:56] <karel_> max__: ok, thx
[16:56] <opop> .com
[16:57] <lintel> where is the start-up picture located please?
[16:57] <monestri> would you then*
[16:57] <monestri> yes I did it
[16:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !usplash
[16:57] <amenado> Pollywog-> even using windows, if your modem does not have a mic input..dont know how you'd expect to have a convo
[16:57] <amrik> mewt: you might have to recompile your kernel then :(
[16:57] <max__> karel_, unless you are savvy with grub, edit all your config file to point to the new drive locations (hd1 instead of hd0 example)
[16:57] <Pollywog> amenado: what I need is a "softphone" type thing like what Skype has, but for ordinary calls instead of VoIP
[16:57] <rouini> Dew420:my PC is AMD is good or not
[16:57] <bazhang> ljsoftnet, mozilla-mplayer
[16:57] <monestri> what's next?
[16:57]  * mewt feared so
[16:57] <blueskynis> !usplash
[16:57] <karel_> max__: might be able to do that, but it's ok :)
[16:57] <max__> Do I need to open a port in my router for SAMBA ?
[16:57] <amenado> Pollywog-> well now, you have just changed the requirements from what you have said earlier...two different animals
[16:57] <ljsoftnet> bazhang i already tried that but still doesn't work
[16:57] <cypha> no one uses amarok?
[16:58] <blueskynis> just tried something :)
[16:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Pollywog there are no free version that let you call from pc to peoples home phones
[16:58] <mewt> amrik, will there be noticeable performance gains or loses if i use a server kernel ?
[16:58] <bazhang> ljsoftnet, then you need to install ubuntu-restricted-extras and clear firefox cache (restart firefox as well)
[16:58] <amenado> Pollywog-> at one time,  dial-pad was very good, bought by google, dont know what they did with dial-pad
[16:58] <Pollywog> Jack_Sparrow: you are not understanding me....  I do not want to use VoIP.  I just want to make a regular call but from the computer
[16:58] <monestri> Jack_Sparrow, ?
[16:58] <Pollywog> though my regular phone line
[16:59] <dury> is it possible this -> http://lame.sourceforge.net/links.php in UBUNTU
[16:59] <Pollywog> Windows has done this since Win95
[16:59] <amenado> Pollywog-> and I also told you, does your modem have a mic to allow you to speak and be heard at the other end?
[16:59] <crdlb> joombaga: vertical only works when using Desktop Wall instead of Cube, and the flicker is due to limitations in the Direct Rendering Infrastructure that both drivers use.
[16:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Pollywog With special modems and drivers.. correct
[16:59] <bazhang> Pollywog, free phone calls via the phone line?
[16:59] <crdlb> jim_beam: ^^
[16:59] <Pollywog> bazhang: I did not say free
[17:00] <Pollywog> the local calls would be free
[17:00] <monestri> Jack_Sparrow, ?
[17:00] <Pollywog> I would pay for others just like any other call
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> monestri what
[17:00] <kwan> anyone here have experience with dmraid?
[17:00] <bazhang> Pollywog, does your modem have a mic
[17:00] <amenado> Pollywog-> and you gained what?
[17:00] <xenix> hi
[17:00] <blueskynis> out
[17:00] <rouini> AMD is better or intel
[17:00] <monestri> Jack_Sparrow, what am I supposed to do after removing my modules?
[17:00] <bazhang> !ot | rouini
[17:00] <amrik> mewt: on a high level they are the same, but a lot of low-level options for the kernel are different (pre-emption, scheduling algorithm etc.) you can try it and see if it fits your needs. if not I can recommend http://howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu as a good guide to compile your kernel with settings based on your current ones
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> rouini Please dont take polls in the channel
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> monestri did you run that line I gave
[17:00] <monestri> yes
[17:01] <mewt> amrik, <3
[17:01] <monestri> sudo modprobe -r psmouse ; sudo modprobe psmouse
[17:01] <Jack_Sparrow> monestri all of it
[17:01] <monestri> right?
[17:01] <rsk> !better | rouini
[17:01] <Pollywog> okay thanks ppl I guess I just don't know what I am talking about ;)
[17:01] <Khisanth> amenado: convenience!
[17:01] <monestri> what else did you want me to run?
[17:01] <amenado> Khisanth-> convenience to dial out?  hehe
[17:01] <Jack_Sparrow> monestri  sudo modprobe -r psmouse ; sudo modprobe psmouse
[17:01] <bazhang> emma please ask before PM'ing me thanks
[17:01] <XmatriX> Hey anyone using ubuntu 8.04 with pulse audio installed?
[17:01] <LinuxRevo> hey all
[17:01] <monestri> sudo modprobe -r psmouse ; sudo modprobe psmouse
[17:01] <rsk> XmatriX: i guess? it's installed by default
[17:01] <monestri> i've run it, now what?
[17:02] <LinuxRevo> I have a question please
[17:02] <XmatriX> well the pulse isnt installed by default
[17:02] <XmatriX> i think alsa is
[17:02] <emma> bazhang certainly. may I pm you?
[17:02] <Jack_Sparrow> monestri regular mouse right, not some bluetooth bargain bin special
[17:02] <JustineC> Hi. I have a *minimal* ubuntu install for a server.  How do I enable iptables in upstart?  'apt-get install iptables' says its already installed, but 'update-rc.d iptables defaults' returns "update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/iptables: file does not exist".  What step am I missing?
[17:02] <cypha> does everyone have issues running amarok on ubuntu/gnome?
[17:02] <ljsoftnet> bazhang i already tried that
[17:02] <monestri> It's a synaptics touchpad.
[17:02] <bazhang> emma please ask in channel for the benefit of all
[17:02] <Pollywog> can someone tell me how I can add my jabber ID to my Ubuntu forums contact methods?  I see ICQ and MSN but not Jabber
[17:02] <joombaga> XmatriX: ALSA installed vy default for me too
[17:02] <joombaga> *by
[17:02] <Jack_Sparrow> monestri running that fixed the wheel on mine
[17:02] <Khisanth> amenado: no, but at least for me I am often working with headphones on
[17:02] <XmatriX> yeah
[17:02] <krlos> hi
[17:02] <MattJ> Pollywog: Hmm, I am sure it was there once...
[17:02] <LinuxRevo> SwiftFox Error
[17:02] <amenado> JustineC-> typically netfilter and iptables tools are already embedded on the kernel
[17:02] <Khisanth> the headphones are connected to the computer :)
[17:02] <krlos> i have a problem with my ubuntu cd install
[17:02] <rouini> is there difference between Ubuntu 7.10 and 8.04
[17:02] <kwan> I created the raid set.  When i use fdisk & parted, it showed that i have succesfully created the partitions but under /dev/mapper/ the two partitions I created doesn't show up
[17:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !touchpad
[17:02] <Pollywog> MattJ: yes me too but it's gone now
[17:03] <krlos> i can't do it
[17:03] <monestri> thanks i'll read that
[17:03] <MattJ> Pollywog: Join #ubuntuforums
[17:03] <emma> bazhang - This has to do with comments you made. Is that something you want to talk about here?
[17:03] <Pollywog> Mattj: thanks
[17:03] <rouini> i found nothing special in Ubuntu 8.04
[17:03] <XmatriX> rouini: how did u format those partitions??
[17:03] <ljsoftnet> is there a way to play trailer in http://www.apple.com/trailers/?
[17:03] <krlos> this sayme "this kernel requires x86-64 cpu, ... but only detected an i1586"
[17:03] <thompa> cant enable desktop effects after update?
[17:03] <bazhang> emma join ubuntu-ops
[17:03] <rsk> ljsoftnet: use mplayerplug-in
[17:03] <max__> !samba
[17:03] <amenado> Khisanth-> cool, perhaps you can tell Pollywog which model of modem you have and drivers that go along with it...to feed sounds to your headset
[17:03] <kwan> therefore, I can't create filesystems for em
[17:03] <krlos> when i try to change the disk.. the new install showme the same error
[17:04] <amrik> krlos: do you have a amd64 cpu? or i386
[17:04] <Penguin> Is it possible to prevent kubuntu/ubuntu from installing apps by default?
[17:04] <ljsoftnet> rsk through synaptic?
[17:04] <rsk> no thourgh firefox
[17:04] <XmatriX> Penguin: no, they come by default, but u can remove them in synaptic if you do not use them
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Penguin there are different options for installs..
[17:04] <ljsoftnet> rsk how?
[17:04] <rouini> xamatrix:  i am using partition editor
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[17:05] <amenado> kwan are you doing LVM?
[17:05] <krlos> amrik, it is a Piv i586,
[17:05] <rsk> ljsoftnet: install it and use it?
[17:05] <JustineC> amenado: I'm coming from SysVInit-land ... what does "embedded on the kernel" mean?  How do I turn iptables on/off in Ubuntu, I guess is the question?
[17:05] <Penguin> I need to have everything uninstalled before I try to install to a 512MB SD CARd
[17:05] <ljsoftnet> rsk how do i install it?
[17:05] <rsk> apt-get
[17:05] <kwan> amenado, dmraid and following through the fakeraidHowto right now
[17:05] <XmatriX> rouini: partition editor, does that run on a boot disk or windows?
[17:05] <clintchanc1> How can i make network automaticaly connect to my wireless network, getting tired of having to set password and all that.  Also how can i make two ext3 filesystms merge?
[17:05] <amenado> JustineC-> i meant to say, the netfilter for firewalling is compiled to the kernel..
[17:05] <thompa> if desktop appearances no longer starts do i reinstall restricted stuff?
[17:06] <ljsoftnet> rsk: just apt-get, isn't it lacking?
[17:06] <clintchanc1> MY live Cd wont work i tants a login everytime i use it and i dont know the login
[17:06] <LinuxRevo> >:o Heeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllppppppppppp
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Penguin are you trying a full install on 512 usb?   see !minimal
[17:06] <XmatriX> clintchanc1: download wicd, i feel it much better
[17:06] <rsk> ....
[17:06] <amrik> krlos: I'm guessing the obvious reason of "the live-cd is amd64" isn't right...
[17:06] <Penguin> !minimal
[17:06] <rouini> xmatrix:in windows there is partition manager
[17:06] <compengi> i had a problem with nvidia card being detected on hardy. and after installing restricted-drivers things went even worse, the resolution went down to 640x480 and there is no other higher option. in xorg.conf file there was nothing mentioned about my vga card nor about monitor. nothing, only defaults. so i decided to reinstall hardy but took the xorg.conf file from gutsy live cd. everything works fine after, but after every reboot i need to rest
[17:06] <compengi> art the x-server to have the xorg.conf file settings loaded. is there any idea how to fix it?
[17:06] <XmatriX> clinctchan1: it will solve ur problem and better interface
[17:06] <NW2190> hi, how do you update Firefox beta 5 to RC1 in ubuntu?
[17:06] <clintchanc1> !wicd
[17:06] <amenado> JustineC-> you dont really turn off the firewall per se, you just either have a default ACCEPT and no rules (same as your definition of off) or have rules to filter unwanted packets
[17:06] <LinuxRevo> Hey EMMA
[17:06] <clintchanc1> XmatriX, what is wicd
[17:06] <emma> Hi LinuxRevo
[17:06] <ledmushroom> whats the difference between desklets and screenlets ?
[17:07] <Penguin> Jack_Sparrow: That's what I need
[17:07] <LinuxRevo> emma: how r u?
[17:07] <krlos> amrik, nop.. it is a kubuntu for pc.. the last one ... i get it one week ago
[17:07] <JustineC> amenado: iptables is a service, no?
[17:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Penguin great..
[17:07] <krlos> and i just installed yesterday in other machinne
[17:07] <LinuxRevo> emma: can i ask a question?
[17:07] <screenname92834> hello
[17:07] <emma> LinuxRevo, I'm fine but this is not a good place for chit chat. Check your channel list for all the other Ubuntu channels.
[17:07] <XmatriX> clintchanc1: its another internet manager instead of gnome network manager. Before u install i believe u have to remove the gnome one, but in my experiece it works 100% better, and never looses a connection
[17:07] <LinuxRevo> all say this!
[17:07] <Pollywog> Mattj: I was told that #ubuntuforums is not a help channel
[17:07] <LinuxRevo> thanks
[17:07] <screenname92834> folks, I think I should upgrade my linux version does anyone know anything about this?
[17:08] <bazhang> !upgrade | screenname92834
[17:08] <rouini> thanks alt for everybody buy
[17:08] <max__> I can't ping myself from other computers on the network.  Any Ideas?
[17:08] <amenado> JustineC-> nope, its not a service you start from init..its part of the kernel (modules are auto loaded) and i dont think one can rmmod it, unless you compile a new kernel without it
[17:08] <XmatriX> rouini: ive nvr tried partition manager, but try Acronis Partition Expert
[17:08] <kwan> amenado, its weird, cuz i should expect to see isw_blahblah1 & isw_blahblah2  under /dev/mapper/
[17:08] <MattJ> Pollywog: Hold on, investigating
[17:09] <amrik> krlos: are you sure that its not the amd64 live-cd though, and is the i386?
[17:09] <Pollywog> Mattj: ty
[17:09] <krlos> amrik, this one say me that i require an x86-64... well i tryed to do it, get the x86-64, after that it sayme ... require x86
[17:09] <joombaga> max__: Do you have network connectivity?
[17:09] <Armored_Azrael> How do I force evolution to select pgp encrypt by default?
[17:09] <rouini> xamatrix : i know acronis
[17:09] <Filox> I have a problem I can send file from pc to phone via bluetooth but not viceversa..... any help?
[17:09] <krlos> amrik, i try both
[17:09] <max__> joombaga, Well, I'm connected to a router, and the other 2 computers are connected to the same router with the same subnet/gateway.   Is that what you mean ?
[17:10] <XmatriX> rouini: thats the one i used when i dual booted, but i heard ubuntu 8.04 comes with a feature called Wubi and u run it on windows and it installs there
[17:10] <amenado> kwan am not very familiar with softraid, i thought you were doing LVM
[17:10] <Lynet> krlos: So.. what error message does the i386 CD give you?
[17:10] <screenname92834> so which bits of my system are actually going to be upgraded when I go to hardy?
[17:10] <screenname92834> is it just the kernel?
[17:10] <XmatriX> rouini: almost like a windows application install, but when u boot up u can choose
[17:10] <max__> joombaga, how do I add network connectivity?
[17:10] <monestri> Can someone help me fix touchpad scroll wheel please?
[17:10] <monestri> http://paste.php.lv/7400?lang=php
[17:11] <Jack_Sparrow> rouini please read all of the faq and warnings before using that
[17:11] <krlos> Lynet, requires x86-64, when i use a x86-64 sayme requires x86-i1586
[17:11] <max__> monestri, what brand touchpad?  Synaptics?
[17:11] <screenname92834> what things are included in the hardy  distribution, does it include gnome  and the desktop and things like the CD player?
[17:11] <monestri> yep max__
[17:11] <monestri> the scroll wheel dies at random points in time
[17:11] <rsk> screenname92834: yes
[17:11] <screenname92834> is the kernel going to get updated as well?
[17:11] <max__> monestri, ok, I did that on my Dell Inspiron, you just have to install a driver and add synaptics device into your xorg.conf
[17:11] <rsk> screenname92834: games officetools instant messenger etc etc
[17:11] <kwan> anyone here used dmraid??  (Yes, i have read the FakeRaidHowto already)
[17:11] <XmatriX> Jack_Sparrow: i havent tried it, but my friend has and said it was pretty straight forward, wat are the dangers??
[17:11] <rsk> screenname92834: only if there's a bug
[17:12] <monestri> max__, the synaptics driver?
[17:12] <max__> monestri, there was a guide I googled for that, you should be able to find it, just search for: ubuntu synaptics touch
[17:12] <screenname92834> so why do I want to upgrade to hardy?
[17:12] <monestri> I already have an entry for it
[17:12] <Jack_Sparrow> XmatriX It is nothing I would ever use...  and this is not the place to discuss it..
[17:12] <amenado> kwan which tutorial are you following trhough? let me see if I can make sense out of it
[17:12] <screenname92834> I don't have a problem with dapper.
[17:12] <rsk> screenname92834: if you dont you dont. no one is forcing you
[17:12] <joombaga> max__: Does it say you are connected?  By default the network monitor applet is on the top panel in ubuntu, and it will say if you're connected.
[17:12] <Lynet> krlos: "i1586" does not exist. What is the exact name of the .iso you burned, and what is the exact error message?
[17:12] <amenado> screenname92834-> dont need to upgrade, not needed
[17:12] <XmatriX> Jack_Sparrow: but this is ubuntu irc if not here where else?
[17:12] <Jack_Sparrow> screenname92834 Please /join #ubuntu-offtopic for discussions..
[17:13] <screenname92834> Jack_Sparrow: why?
[17:13] <compengi_> i got dc'd, did anyone answer me?
[17:13] <Jack_Sparrow> screenname92834 this is support, it is not for polls or discussions...
[17:13] <monestri> http://paste.php.lv/7401?lang=php
[17:13] <Jack_Sparrow> XmatriX Please read the faq....
[17:13] <XmatriX> wow dc'd havent heard that since starcraft lol
[17:13] <max__> joombaga, Yes I'm connected via DHCP.  my ip is <IP_ADDRESS> and I am trying to ping that from my other computers which are also 192.168.1.xxx    I assume I'm connected, as I'm on the internet right now.
[17:13] <krlos> Lynet, in this time i am trying with the last one kubuntu for i586
[17:13] <screenname92834> Jack_Sparrow: I am getting support. I am discovering information about Hardy.
[17:14] <max__> joombaga, The icon says "Manual network configuration"
[17:14] <XmatriX> Jack_Sparrow: aiight how u get the faq??
[17:14] <compengi_> XmatriX, O.o
[17:14] <Jack_Sparrow> screenname92834 Not the same thing
[17:14] <XmatriX> lol
[17:14] <MattJ> Pollywog: Join the channel again
[17:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !wubi
[17:14] <max__> joombaga, I can ping google.com and I can ping my router, <IP_ADDRESS>   and I can even ping the other computers.   But the other computers can't ping me
[17:15] <monestri> the link Jack_Sparrow gave me has information on setting one up, but not troubleshooting one
[17:15] <krlos> Lynet, it show me . this kernel requires an x86-64 cpu, but only detected and i586 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropiate for your cpu
[17:15] <joombaga> max__: it's possible that your computer is blocking icmp (ping requests).
[17:15] <XmatriX> Jack_Sparrow: it said safe, how is it dangerous??
[17:15] <joombaga> max__: I'd have to do some searching to figure out how to fix that
[17:15] <max__> joombaga, I have port 21 forwarded, and a ftp server installed (proftpd) and I cant ping port 21 either
[17:16] <jbroome> you don't ping ports
[17:16] <kwan> !dmraid | amenado
[17:16] <XmatriX> lol
[17:16] <jbroome> telnet ftphost 25
[17:16] <max__> jbroome, well I can't telenet it either
[17:16] <Jack_Sparrow> XmatriX You could lose your windows install and mess up your ntfs partition...  but read the faq on wubi and how it differes from a regular install on its own partition
[17:16] <Lynet> krlos: You should never get that kind of error message if you burned an i586 iso. You are trying to install from a x86-64/amd64 iso.
[17:16] <jbroome> err, not 25, 21
[17:16] <LinuxRevo> no one wnts to help?
[17:16] <kwan> brb
[17:16] <XmatriX> Jack Sparrow: aiight man, thanks
[17:17] <monestri> Can someone help me fix touchpad scroll wheel please?
[17:17] <max__> I'm thinking maybe a reinstall, since 7.10 worked fine out-of-box jbroome joombaga
[17:17] <Toluus> anyone know any good games on linux? if yes please pm me :P
[17:17] <monestri> http://paste.php.lv/7400?lang=php
[17:17] <kokolo> hello!! can someone helo me to install grub on separate partition beacause i have a dual boot ubuntu an xp, for that can i use ubuntu live cd and install grub from there to partiotion dev/sda1 or or any other way, pls help
[17:17] <thompa> help. i updated and desktop effects cannot be enabled?
[17:17] <jbroome> max__: whatever works for you
[17:17] <amenado> whoever has created a  large file (5gig) from existing FS, formatted it into a different FileSystem and installed another linux on it? can you make it bootable? or you must put it in a separate partition to make it bootable?
[17:18] <ywwg> How do I restart wpa supplicant on Ubuntu hardy?  I know how to run the command, but I can't find the configuration file it uses or the init.d script that launches it (if any)
[17:18] <clintchanc1> XmatriX, why does it timeout during ip retrival?
[17:18] <clintchanc1> XmatriX, why does it timeout during ip retrival?
[17:18] <krlos> Lynet, ... plop.. i am like a newbie...
[17:18] <krlos> plop..
[17:18] <joombaga> max__: So you're trying to access an ftp share on this computer from the other two?  I haven't had any problems doing that on Hardy
[17:18] <krlos> i mistake the cd...
[17:18] <max__> joombaga, ftp and samba
[17:18] <screenname92834> how do I upgrade to hardy easily? The website says you need to update everything first which is unnecessary.
[17:18] <Lynet> krlos: Yeah, I kinda figured.. ;-)
[17:19] <amenado> kokolo-> you have an installed linux? what happened when you installed ubuntu?
[17:19] <max__> joombaga, have ports forwarded, and still get connection refused.   do i need to open ports in iptables, I thought the daemon would do that for me?
[17:19] <clintchanc1> XmatriX, why does it timeout suring Ip Retrival?
[17:19] <amenado> screenname92834-> im suggesting a fresh install instead of upgrade, at least you can delete the new install if you dont like it, but no way to downgrade
[17:19] <defdef> in ubuntu 8.04, what do i need to do to RDP into a windows box? I tried changing the port to 3389, that did not work.
[17:20] <max__> joombaga, but since icmp isnt even working, it seems like all I have is WAN not LAN
[17:20] <joschan> Please help, i locked myself out of X and have only terminal now. when i startx it says "user not authorized to run X server", how can I quickly authorize?
[17:20] <joschan> I have no brpowser and nothing only irc at the present
[17:20] <compengi_> screenname92834, read this http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[17:20] <trufknarf> Hey People! When i do "mount", i get no line with "... on / ". how can / not be mounted?
[17:21] <max__> trufknarf, if you have a command prompt, then / is mounted.
[17:21] <clintchanc1> why does wcid timeout durring ip retrieval
[17:21] <amenado> trufknarf-> paste into pastebin your result of mount and we'll take a peek
[17:21] <joombaga> max__: I don't know, I've only done it between computers that were on the same subnet through DHCP without port forwarding.
[17:21] <h0ax> how long should the minimal installation cd hang  at 6% for ... i can see it downloading
[17:21] <h0ax> for 8.04
[17:21] <trufknarf> amenado: its on my other computer. that one has no internet
[17:21] <amenado> clintchanc1-> dont know what you meant by ip retrieval,  if you type this in your terminal   sudo ip  a  what do you get?
[17:21] <max__> joombaga, Ok thanks, I'm starting to think it's the Windows computers that are at fault   =]
[17:21] <mysterioso> OK I just inserted the disk (Half-Life 2 disc 1\5)  and I "installed" Steam  When I ran the icon that it put on my  desktop, It updated Steam.  But when I click on it now It opens an applet type window and it has flashy type icons that are interactive (buttons) but It does not display the text or graphics.  A window for WINE came up and said that the application is trying to display HTML and if I clicked install it would fix it.  It di
[17:21] <zubu> attila: how can i install the driver of graphics card
[17:21] <mcphail> joschan: don't use startx. Restart the gui with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[17:22] <clintchanc1> amenado, whell im connected right now so id return this connections ip address.
[17:22] <zubu> attila:also how can i change the resolution of my screen?
[17:22] <clintchanc1> using Network manager
[17:22] <joschan> mcphail: i am not using gdm
[17:22] <amenado> trufknarf-> you have a usb drive where you can transfer it to a file? or you have to do a manual copy, be accurate with the info, or else you'd get a bad advise too
[17:22] <screenname92834> I think they know nothing about ubuntu in ubuntu-offtopic, and seem to be talking about blackadder
[17:22] <Nith> mysterioso: your message was cut off at "and if I clicked install it would fix it. "
[17:22] <joombaga> max__: I wouldn't be surprised.
[17:22] <amenado> clintchanc1-> did you try the command i gave you?
[17:23] <MrObvious> !realplayer
[17:23] <Flannel> screenname92834: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[17:23] <mysterioso> OK I just inserted the disk (Half-Life 2 disc 1\5)  and I "installed" Steam  When I ran the icon that it put on my  desktop, It updated Steam.  But when I click on it now It opens an applet type window and it has flashy type icons that are interactive (buttons) but It does not display the text or graphics.  A window for WINE came up and said that the application is trying to display HTML and if I clicked install it would fix it.
[17:23] <clintchanc1> amenado, it gave a help message telling me how to use it
[17:23] <monkeyBox> Why is /etc/init.d/hdparm no longer available in hardy?
[17:23] <mysterioso> it didnt work
[17:23] <mysterioso> how do I fix it? do I have to install the whole game?
[17:23] <amenado> clintchanc1-> try this    ip a
[17:24] <h0ax> how long should the minimal installation cd hang  at 6% for ... i can see it downloading for 8.04
[17:24] <mworth> my failed upgrade has resulted in a brolen package, however I am finding it impossible to reinstall it like I am told I must
[17:24] <mcphail> joschan: ok. The obvious 1st question is "if not, why not?"
[17:24] <screenname92834> compengi_: what is the point of that?
[17:24] <Flannel> monkeyBox: Because of the switch over to upstart
[17:24] <clintchanc1> amenado, it gave ips to all 3 of my connections instead of eth0
[17:24] <zubu> how can i install my graphics card driver?