[04:35] <CarlK_> raz, well, that isnt a rtc prob
[04:35] <Yoshimitsu> dabaSlon_mhm suggested i ask you
[04:35] <raz> CarlK_, aighty.
[04:35] <bob2> TechOzone: stop it
[04:35] <dabaSlon_mhm> haha, you got one:)
[04:35] <bob2> TechOzone: if you have a question, ask
[04:35] <bigfoot>  i'm sorry but i don't know, ccc. should there be dump and pass entries in fstab?
[04:35] <nuopus> TechOzone: But not an Ubuntu admin
[04:35] <dabaSlon_mhm> he did, about the cds shippit
[04:35] <TechOzone> i will talk in private chat
[04:35] <TechOzone> grr, who is a ubuntu admin?
[04:36] <bob2> TechOzone: if you have questions about shipit, please read the FAQ
[04:36] <nuopus> LOL
[04:36] <dabaSlon_mhm> not wit bob2, I think...
[04:36] <nalioth> TechOzone: there are none here
[04:36] <bob2> TechOzone: if they don't answer it, email mako
[04:36] <TechOzone> @bob2, i did
[04:36] <dabaSlon_mhm> TechOzone: I would like to explain this channel...
[04:36] <TechOzone> @mako?
[04:36] <ubotu> I don't know, TechOzone
[04:36] <nuopus> TechOzone: I havent gotten mine either dude .... and I ordered before it was released
[04:36] <IIIEars__> still amazed by a free and complete operating system to download. having it sent to your door at no cost is astounding.
[04:36] <TechOzone> yes, i GOT the package, but no CD'S were in it, it was ripped open like someone stole them
[04:36] <nuopus> IIIEars___: What do you think of it though?
[04:36] <nalioth> Yoshimitsu: i like keeping chats in chan, cuz lurkers can learn, too
[04:37] <dabaSlon_mhm> TechOzone: this is a volunteer support/chat chat about ubuntu related topics, and ppl not ebing able to do something with their ubuntu...no managers...
[04:37] <jubuntu> is it possible to share ubuntu files with window?
[04:37] <IIIEars__> Bill Gates is going to work a bit harder to sell his OS.
[04:37] <TechOzone> whats mako's email?
[04:37] <Yoshimitsu> indeed
[04:37] <nuopus> IIIEars___: So you like it?
[04:37] <dabaSlon_mhm> there are ppl related to canonical, the ubuntu company...and bob2 is one.
[04:37] <bob2> TechOzone: then please email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:37] <jeff25> god this is so nice.  Took 1 minute to install gcc where on gentoo it takes 4 hours
[04:37] <nalioth> Yoshimitsu: and running a PPC, you should become familiar with using apt to build from source
[04:37] <TechOzone> i did, i got no response
[04:37] <IIIEars__> Honestly? - I fear for canonical's survival.
[04:37] <bob2> TechOzone: when did you email?
[04:37] <Yoshimitsu> yeah so ive heard @ nalioth
[04:37] <TechOzone> um, a week ago
[04:37] <nuopus> IIIEars___: So you dont like it?
[04:37] <nalioth> Yoshimitsu: cuz us and (a little less so) the AMD64 folks are red-headed-stepchildren
[04:38] <IIIEars__> You have to make money to support developers
[04:38] <bob2> TechOzone: then email again, and I'll poke mako to make sure he replies
[04:38] <nuopus> IIIEars___: Linux has been around for years .. Open Source
[04:38] <bigfoot> i'm sorry to bother you all, but can anyone shed some light into my problem with gmailfs? apparently, it's not mounting.
[04:38] <Yoshimitsu> lol ok thats a strange way of putting it
[04:38] <bob2> TechOzone: what address will it be from?
[04:38] <nuopus> IIIEars___: People do development for free in most cases
[04:38] <TechOzone><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:38] <nalioth> Yoshimitsu: the dev on PPC and amd64 lags behind x86
[04:38] <nuopus> IIIEars___: it is a different mentality with Microsoft people
[04:38] <herpes> TechOzone, spam time
[04:38] <Yoshimitsu> but because i have a g4 processor i should then go for mplayer-g4 should i not
[04:38] <TechOzone> no
[04:38] <IIIEars__> still.. i would rather see more bandwidth and larger bounties.
[04:38] <dabaSlon_mhm> woohoo, another addres on my spam list...
[04:38] <TechOzone> no spamming
[04:38] <nalioth> Yoshimitsu: yes, by all means
[04:39] <bob2> mako<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is going to email you about some lost cds
[04:39] <dabaSlon_mhm> were just reasing you...
[04:39] <TechOzone> lol
[04:39] <bob2> mako: fon't forget him/her ;p
[04:39] <nalioth> Yoshimitsu: my G4 is waiting for the APX drivers to be "found"
[04:39] <Yoshimitsu> oh ok
[04:39] <TechOzone> um, i run a HUGE website devoted to technology, if any of you are interested in joining, please visit www.techozone.net
[04:39] <ccc> bigfoot: yes, the two last entries on every line. (column 5 & 6) look at the other entries in your fstab
[04:39] <bob2> TechOzone: and please chill out in future, getting upset doesn't help anyone
[04:39] <TechOzone> okay
[04:39] <Yoshimitsu> i managed to install mplayer on here a while back while haory was still very unstable
[04:39] <dabaSlon_mhm> we'll make sure to spam you, thanks, ozone:
[04:39] <TechOzone> read my previous post about my website, www.techozone.net
[04:39] <dabaSlon_mhm> :)
[04:39] <herpes> TechOzone, and you like spam?
[04:39] <TechOzone> lol
[04:39] <TechOzone> NO SPAMMING
[04:39] <Yoshimitsu> however the method o used then does not work now
[04:40] <TechOzone> you dont even want to know what i do with spammers @ TechOzone
[04:40] <TechOzone> i report them to their ISP
[04:40] <TechOzone> and get them kicked from their ISP
[04:40] <bob2> anyway, your website is off-topic
[04:40] <nalioth> Yoshimitsu: you can either build it yourself (which sometimes doenst work) or use the apt builder
[04:40] <TechOzone> ive done it already
[04:40] <TechOzone> lol
[04:40] <bob2> and it only seems to have 2 stories
[04:40] <TechOzone> no no no
[04:40] <TechOzone> u mean the news?
[04:40] <nuopus> TechOzone: You cant get people kicked for 10 emails
[04:40] <TechOzone> look in the forums?
[04:40] <dabaSlon_mhm> bob2: your directness, and disregard for ppls feelings always amazes me:)
[04:40] <TechOzone> http://site.techozone.net/fusion_forum/
[04:40] <ech0> hey, how come whenever try to open a file in vlc i get no sound output... console shows error: "oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)"
[04:41] <nalioth> bob2 is the MAN
[04:41] <Yoshimitsu> nalioth im getting the source through apt now
[04:41] <dabaSlon_mhm> ech0: try changing the output plugin to esd
[04:41] <ech0> in vlc?
[04:41] <bigfoot> ccc, pardon my ignorance, I'm looking at my fstab right now and still need to ask you: what do you mean by "column 5 and 6"?
[04:41] <bob2> dabaSlon_mhm: my tolerance for people pushing silly commercial websites is very low
[04:41] <dabaSlon_mhm> bob2: haha, another one of those I am talking about,...
[04:41] <dabaSlon_mhm> maybe this guy erally puts a lot of work, into a really nuce website...
[04:41] <yonil> AAhhh ! I'm trying to install a package and it doesnt work cause of "broken packages" =S
[04:42] <Yoshimitsu> ok nalioth i have some nasty looking output for you to have a look at
[04:42] <dabaSlon_mhm> and really it means everythign to him, and you tell use silly commercial websiet, but, I will let your wisdom, as the older...prevail:)
[04:42] <nalioth> yonil: system specs please
[04:42] <dabaSlon_mhm> ech0: yeah, there.
[04:42] <nalioth> Yoshimitsu: in the pm window, please
[04:42] <Yoshimitsu> cool
[04:42] <bob2> yonil: don't use packages from outside ubuntu
[04:42] <yonil> bob2, didnt ....
[04:42] <dabaSlon_mhm> ok, well, bob2 is here now, I am out:)
[04:42] <nalioth> dabaSlon_mhm: what for?
[04:43] <IIIEars__> Has anyone tried an appearance on one of the computer tech tv shows on cable or a submission to slashdot?
[04:43] <dabaSlon> just cause he knows everything, you dont need me...
[04:43] <ccc> bigfoot: sorry i just read they didn't even have to be filled. i meant the dump and file system check fields (they are usually set to "0" & "0") at the end of each line in fstab.
[04:43] <rixth> Is there a tool (command ine or gui) to convet mpc files to mp3?
[04:43] <bob2> IIIEars__: ubuntu releases have been on slashdot
[04:43] <Cybermagellan> Will Linux use .hta files?
[04:43] <nalioth> IIIEars__: for what purpose and who/what would you have on tv or /.?
[04:43] <bob2> Cybermagellan: what are they?
[04:43] <bob2> yonil: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[04:43] <nuopus> dude that is a cheap themed and canned web site you got there!
[04:43] <nuopus> lol
[04:44] <nalioth> dabaSlon: we are needed for the light work
[04:44] <nuopus> PHP fusion with a generic downloadable theme
[04:44] <bigfoot> ccc, i see. taking another look, only /dev/hda1 has  dump 0    pass 1. all others have 0 0.
[04:44] <Cybermagellan> bob2 that is when you use HTML files to launch applications
[04:44] <dabaSlon> dbernar1@veliki:~ $ ls /mnt/gmailfs     I get output as if the file is there....how come?? does this mean that I am really using the gmail storage for the file??
[04:44] <TechOzone> LOL
[04:44] <nuopus> j/k
[04:44] <CarlK_> rixth - is mpc moosepack?
[04:44] <eskaypey> yo
[04:44] <TechOzone> i worked hard on that
[04:44] <TechOzone> site
[04:44] <TechOzone> over a year
[04:44] <yonil> bob2, check #flood
[04:44] <TechOzone> lol
[04:44] <nuopus> I did the same thing!
[04:44] <IIIEars__> Ubuntu is simple to install less than 30mins on nearly any hardware. install it for a tv host.
[04:44] <nuopus> LOL
[04:44] <nuopus> only I used mambo
[04:44] <eskaypey> is there any way to tell ubuntu not to install gnome on installations?
[04:44] <TechOzone> cool
[04:44] <TechOzone> PHP Fusion is better though
[04:44] <TechOzone> lok
[04:44] <TechOzone> lol
[04:44] <nuopus> Never tried it
[04:44] <rixth> CarlK, yeah, MusePack
[04:44] <jeramy> eskaypey: yes
[04:44] <CarlK_> nuopus - I like mambo
[04:44] <bob2> eskaypey: you can do a server install, or install kubuntu, or just remove it after install
[04:45] <nuopus> Mambo is very nice
[04:45] <IIIEars__> free publicity is much cheaper than free cds
[04:45] <rixth> It's far nicer than M3 but no portable players support it.
[04:45] <bob2> yonil: that's not what I asked for...
[04:45] <rixth> Sony's HD5 is asweet deal though. I'm just waiting for mine to come from the other side of the world =/
[04:45] <CarlK_> rixth - yeah, even mplaer has trouble with mpc
[04:45] <jeramy> eskaypey: just type server at the beginning.  If you want KDE, after the install, just install kubuntu-desktop
[04:45] <eskaypey> bob2: does it give me server install option?
[04:45] <ccc> bigfoot: yeah, and 0/off is the one the system uses as default for each device if they're left blank (i didn't know that before).
[04:45] <bob2> isn't mpc yet another proprietary patent-encumbered audio format?
[04:45] <bob2> eskaypey: yes
[04:46] <bigfoot> ccc, so everything is fine then with my fstab file?
[04:46] <TechOzone> i sent a nice long message to info@shipit
[04:46] <Shuddertrix> can't you use wine and mpc2mp3?
[04:46] <ccc> bigfoot: i just noticed you didn't have those in the line you pasted here.
[04:46] <rixth> CarlK, just have to wait till I can find a Windows machine.
[04:46] <dabaSlon> ccc: do you know if the fact that I can put a file into that /mnt/gmailfs means I am using the online storage??
[04:46] <rixth> bob2, not that I know of
[04:46] <eskaypey> jeramy: oh so i type server at the start and it installes everything but not gnome?
[04:46] <IIIEars__> Truely amazed by how wonderful Ubuntu is. never thought i could use linux for everything. but i do.
[04:46] <bigfoot> ccc, yes i didn't paste it here coz it was in fstab to begin with.
[04:46] <bob2> eskaypey: it installs a basic server system, yes
[04:46] <TechOzone> aww, no one is registering to www.techozone.net
[04:46] <TechOzone> cummon guys
[04:46] <TechOzone> please
[04:46] <TechOzone> register
[04:46] <dabaSlon> ha.
[04:46] <yonil> bob2, there ...
[04:46] <TechOzone> its a good site
[04:46] <bob2> TechOzone: final warning, ever
[04:47] <eskaypey> bob2: i like that
[04:47] <TechOzone> :)
[04:47] <dabaSlon> you will get a ban, please stop. I am serious.
[04:47] <eskaypey> bob2: thank you
[04:47] <TechOzone> ok
[04:47] <ccc> bigfoot: no sorry, my knowledge ends here :/
[04:47] <eskaypey> thanks guys
[04:47] <bob2> eskaypey: np
[04:47] <rixth> Is Serial ATA support built in in kernel 2.6.10?
[04:47] <ech0> dabaSlon_mhm, theres no option for esd in the vlc audio perferences
[04:47] <eskaypey> brb
[04:47] <bob2> rixth: as modules in the initrd, yes
[04:47] <dabaSlon> ok, well, I dont know, I never used it...
[04:47] <Amaranth> ech0:  You have to install the package for it
[04:47] <bigfoot> still don't know why i can't get my gmailfs to mount. can anyone please help a 3 week old Ubuntu/Linux newbie? thank you.
[04:47] <yonil> bob2, its in #flood
[04:47] <dabaSlon> I know that is why you are getting the error, tho.
[04:47] <ech0> oh i see
[04:47] <TechOzone> @bigfoot, i will help you
[04:48] <CarlK_> bob2 - http://www.musepack.net - License: GNU LGPL
[04:48] <bob2> CarlK_: neat, my mistak
[04:48] <yonil> bigfoot, gmailfs? what's that?
[04:48] <tritium> rixth, are you sure you want to convert from one lossy format to another?  Sound quality with degenerate further.
[04:48] <TechOzone> GmailFS is the Gmail File System
[04:48] <TechOzone> you can store files on it
[04:48] <TechOzone> i love it
[04:48] <TechOzone> i use it a LOT
[04:48] <bob2> yonil: so, when I said "don't use packages from outside ubuntu", and you said "I don't", what did you mean?
[04:48] <TechOzone> its called Gmail Shell
[04:48] <bob2> yonil: since you have half a dozen non-ubuntu sources in your apt config
[04:49] <dabaSlon> bigfoot: I have it mounted, and I can put files there.
[04:49] <CarlK_> bob2 - not like you are expected to review all new web sites each moring ;)
[04:49] <rixth> Even though SATA support is not at it's top, is it still laster than PATA?
[04:49] <bob2> yonil: include known broken ones like the backports and chritian marillat's archive
[04:49] <nalioth> bob2 i aint seen so many entrys in a sources.list in my life
[04:49] <rixth> tritium, no ortable players support it.
[04:49] <yonil> bob2, but they're all pretty cool ... :\
[04:49] <yonil> bob2, thought these are ok
[04:49] <bigfoot> my problem is with mounting. I can see the the gmailfs "drive" in my computer:/// directory but I can't mount it. I get a mounting error even when i just double click on it. The mounting error is this : "mount: only root can mount /usr/share/gmailfs/gmailfs.py on /mnt/gmailfs"
[04:49] <IIIEars__> lol - apt source binge.
[04:49] <dabaSlon> bigfoot: http://pastebin.com/291100
[04:49] <ech0> w00t, thanks. works fine now. :)
[04:49] <bob2> rixth: SATA introduces some cool scsi stuff like TCQ, which would speed things up, if the hardware supports it
[04:49] <bob2> yonil: no, they're broken and causing your problem
[04:49] <yonil> bob2, what can i do now ?
[04:50] <dabaSlon> bigfoot: oh, I cant mount it neither, there...
[04:50] <dabaSlon> I can move files over to it, tho, through the terminal.
[04:50] <dabaSlon> ech0: excellent...
[04:50] <bob2> yonil: comment out all the marillat and backport entries in there, then run 'sudo apt-get update', then try installing it again
[04:50] <bigfoot> if possibl, i'd like to use gmailfs with nautilus, rather than thru the textual terminal.
[04:50] <yonil> bob2, ok thanks
[04:51] <bigfoot> is this possible?
[04:51] <bigfoot> can anyone run gmailfs outside of terminal?
[04:51] <bob2> bigfoot: dude
[04:51] <bob2> bigfoot: if it's mounted, it's mounted, terminal or nautilus
[04:51] <bob2> it doesn't matter
[04:51] <bigfoot> oh, i see.
[04:51] <bigfoot> do you think you could kindly tell me why i'm getting a mounting error, please?
[04:51] <dabaSlon> yes, just open your home folder, and go to /mnt/gmailfs
[04:52] <dabaSlon> it is prolly cause it is mounted.
[04:52] <iceman> ok how to reset keyboard input speed. HELP
[04:52] <dabaSlon> ANd you are trying to do it again.
[04:52] <dabaSlon> wow, weird/
[04:52] <winmaster> test
[04:52] <winmaster> yay
[04:52] <winmaster> it worked
[04:52] <winmaster> lol
[04:52] <dabaSlon> ha, I know, bigfoot:)
[04:53] <dabaSlon> give me a few
[04:53] <dabaSlon> the Shuddertrix guy gave you a weird command for the mount
[04:53] <bigfoot> okay, i've gone into /mnt/gmailfs in my nautilus. I tried to drag and drop a small photograph into it, and i get this "Error While Moving" dialog window: "Error while moving items to "/mnt/gmailfs". You do not have permissions to write to this folder."
[04:53] <hitchhiker|fake> hehe
[04:53] <bigfoot> dabaSlon, oh, is that so?
[04:53] <dabaSlon>  I think so.
[04:53] <dabaSlon> Ill chjeck now.
[04:54] <IIIEars__> iceman - can you adjust it using "System" >> "Preferences" >> "Keyboard"?
[04:54] <iceman> HELP . UBUNTU OPENED A APP THAT SLOWED MY KEBOARD
[04:54] <winmaster> yay, i made a channel on here
[04:54] <winmaster> #techozone
[04:54] <bob2> iceman: stop it
[04:54] <bob2> winmaster: again...
[04:54] <justin> and omg, the shift key is stuck too
[04:54] <IIIEars__> iceman - don't panic - someone here knows how to fix it.
[04:54] <winmaster> irc:\\irc.freenode.net\techozone
[04:55] <bob2> winmaster: dude?
[04:55] <tritium> iceman, what program did you open?
[04:55] <winmaster> @bob2  ya?
[04:55] <ubotu> Wish i knew, winmaster
[04:55] <IIIEars__> iceman - can you use your mouse to navigate to system .. preferences .. keyboard?
[04:55] <bob2> winmaster: your channel and website are off-topic
[04:55] <dabaSlon> bigfoot: yeah, his command is weird. is he here? Shuddertrix?
[04:56] <dabaSlon> bob2: is this at all possible to run:  sudo mount /mnt/gmailfs ?
[04:56] <Shuddertrix> someone call?
[04:56] <dabaSlon> i Mean, obviously it is not mounting anything.
[04:56] <iceman> What was the app. it opened when i ran wolfenstein enemy teratory.
[04:56] <IIIEars__> iceman? - still there?
[04:56] <bob2> dabaSlon: that would work if you had setup /etc/fstab
[04:56] <dabaSlon> hey, Shuddertrix, we are wondering how we would do that command at all./
[04:56] <dabaSlon> bob2: ah, ok.
[04:56] <bob2> you guys all have FUSE working already?
[04:56] <tritium> iceman, you need to tell us...
[04:56] <dabaSlon> bob2: for gmailfs?
[04:56] <iceman> cant type but real slow
[04:57] <IIIEars__> iceman - can't help you with that someone else here may know
[04:57] <rixth> bob2, my hard drive is (or will be, arriving tomorrow) http://wdc.com/en/products/productkit.asp?DriveID=57 I don't even know ha TCQ i8s =/
[04:57] <rixth> hat TCQ is
[04:57] <rixth> My batteries are dying :(
[04:57] <bob2> tagged command queuing
[04:57] <iceman> it opened by itsef when i ran wolfenstein
[04:58] <winmaster> good night yall
[04:58] <jasmuz> rixth: too bad
[04:58] <rixth> Seagate ha something called NCQ, same deal?
[04:58] <IIIEars__> iceman - can you use the preferences .. keyboard dialog to reset things to normal?
[04:58] <dabaSlon> bob2: this is what we have got so far: http://pastebin.com/291102 .
[04:58] <dabaSlon> k,. Im out, 4 real/
[04:58] <iceman> tryed
[04:58] <iceman> nope
[04:59] <ck2> iceman, Apps, system tools, system monitor, Resources tab - is you CPU close to 100%?
[04:59] <bob2> dabaSlon: that's not even close
[04:59] <bob2> you need to setup fuse
[04:59] <bob2> I'm really really really sure gmailfs is not a kernel module
[04:59] <dabaSlon> thanks, bigfoot is doing it.
[04:59] <iceman> ck2 no.
[04:59] <dabaSlon> bigfoot: can you make a post on forums after you make it work?
[05:00] <IIIEars__> iceman - i don't know that a reboot will help anything. - did tritium have any help with the keyboard module?
[05:00] <bigfoot> so what completed steps have i done wrong? what steps am i missing?
[05:00] <Shuddertrix> yeah, you need to get fuse on there. i can't seem to get it to work
[05:00] <bigfoot> dabaSlon, as soon as i get gmailfs working, yes i'll post on ubuntuforums.org. but as of now, i'm lost. 8-)
[05:00] <dabaSlon> thanks, k, out.
[05:00] <bob2> bigfoot: the kernel doesn't know or care about gmailfs
[05:00] <iceman> was a delay settings application .
[05:00] <bob2> the kernel knows about fuse
[05:00] <bob2> which talks to the gmailfs python program
[05:00] <bob2> you need fuse beforee anything else can happen
[05:01] <IIIEars__> iceman - going to poke around in ubuntu give me a sec.
[05:01] <bigfoot> how then can i make the kernel care about/ know gmailfs? 8-).
[05:01] <ck2> iceman,  - is everything else running normal, just a delay between pressing a key and someting happening?
[05:01] <bob2> bigfoot: you dont, you fix fuse
[05:01] <bigfoot> if fuse-ing is necessary, then please tell me how to go about it.
[05:01] <yonil> anyone know an application for encoding avi files into divx ?
[05:02] <bob2> bigfoot: even the package description for gmailfs tells you want to do..
[05:02] <ck2> yonil, transcode
[05:02] <bob2>  To use GmailFS, please use fuse-source to compile appropriate modules
[05:02] <bob2>  for your running kernel.
[05:02] <ViAi> yonil: mencoder
[05:02] <Shuddertrix> That's nice..
[05:02] <bob2> bigfoot: so install fuse-source and read it's instructions
[05:02] <Shuddertrix> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:02] <bob2> Shuddertrix: install build-essential
[05:02] <jasmuz> yonil: did you see mencoder?
[05:02] <bigfoot> bob2, true, tha package description of gmailfs in synaptic tells us about fuse-ing, but i was advised that it was unnecessary.
[05:02] <bob2> Shuddertrix: and please read the FAQ
[05:02] <iceman> ty. i cant type fast so i cant respond fast. yes rest of system is fine
[05:02] <ck2> yonil, http://www.transcoding.org
[05:02] <bob2> bigfoot: by who?
[05:02] <Shuddertrix> bob2: I have.
[05:03] <bob2> Shuddertrix: dpkg -l build-essential | tail -n1
[05:03] <bigfoot> by someone in this chatroom.
[05:03] <yonil> ck2, ViAi , jasmuz I'll have a look at these, thx
[05:03] <bob2> what does that print out?
[05:03] <IIIEars__> iceman - would knowing the graphical defaults listed in "keyboard" help?
[05:03] <Shuddertrix> You might also want to point me to the FAQ
[05:03] <bob2> Shuddertrix: it's in the topic
[05:03] <Shuddertrix> Besides, i probably broke something.
[05:03] <bob2> perhaps
[05:03] <bob2> nothing will work until build-essential is installed, tho
[05:04] <iceman> i adjusted in control panel . no change
[05:04] <ck2> iceman, what about typing in a terminal?
[05:04] <Shuddertrix> bob2: build-essentail was installed by me when I installed ubuntu (for the 4th time, stupid hard drive) a few days ago.
[05:05] <jeramy> Shuddertrix: I got that too and I'm running Hoary.
[05:05] <bob2> Shuddertrix: ok
[05:05] <bob2> then I'm not sure why a configure script would claim that
[05:05] <IIIEars__> iceman - likely bob2, crimsun or tritium has the answer. - i have only a month using linux
[05:05] <bob2> hwat are you trying to build?
[05:05] <bigfoot> i'm trying to install fuse-source via synaptic, but it's telling me to put in the ubuntu cd-rom. is that necessary?
[05:05] <yonil> ViAi, how do i use mencoder ? mencoder -help doesnt work, and i dont know what parameters to pass ..
[05:05] <iceman> terminal same way
[05:05] <jasmuz> yonil: why dont you read about it...
[05:05] <bob2> bigfoot: no
[05:05] <jeramy> It was right after there was an update for binutils that it stopped working...
[05:06] <jeff25> so any of you have mplayer installed?
[05:06] <yonil> jasmuz, where?
[05:06] <bob2> bigfoot: you can configure synaptic to get everything off the internet instead
[05:06] <bigfoot> bob2, how?
[05:06] <bob2> jeramy: you're using breezy?
[05:06] <bob2> jeff25: lots of people do
[05:06] <bob2> bigfoot: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[05:06] <jeramy> bob2: no
[05:06] <ViAi> yonil: well, it's much like mplayer. I suggest you to generate a raw file and from that, generate the format you want to
[05:06] <jeff25> bob2: what's the best way to install it? apt-get install mplayer?
[05:06] <maxy_noob> guys, I have a confession to make ...
[05:06] <IIIEars__> bob2 - how do you dpkg-reconfigure the keyboard?
[05:06] <bob2> jeff25: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:06] <maxy_noob> I believe I have the Linux bug.
[05:06] <IIIEars__> bob2 - iceman is stuck.
[05:06] <bob2> IIIEars__: there isn't anything like that, really
[05:07] <Shuddertrix> It must just be the fuse-source, just ran a couple other configure scripts (that check and use gcc, also)
[05:07] <bob2> IIIEars__: there's setterm for the terminal and xset/gnome control centre for X
[05:07] <IIIEars__> is there a config file?
[05:07] <jasmuz> maxy_noob: lol
[05:07] <maxy_noob> :D
[05:07] <IIIEars__> reload the module with a cold boot?
[05:07] <ViAi> yonil: have you ever tried a look on mencoder's manual? Anything, I can help you too
[05:07] <maxy_noob> friggen nothing makes sense to me using it but it's exciting nonetheless
[05:07] <Shuddertrix> plugging
[05:08] <bigfoot> bob2, i read the wiki page, but it doesn't say how to get synaptic to not look for stuff in the cdrom.
[05:08] <bob2> bigfoot: yes, I know
[05:08] <jasmuz> maxy_noob: need any help?
[05:08] <bob2> bigfoot: but it does show how to edit the repository list
[05:08] <bob2> and with a little lateral thinking...
[05:08] <Shuddertrix> must be at least 20 cables and wires running all over now.
[05:08] <IIIEars__> maxy_noob - spend two weeks here and you will be a fearless linux user.
[05:08] <maxy_noob> The only thing before I finally ditch Windows is to get my home network up and running.
[05:08] <ck2> bigfoot, in Synaptic, menu, settings, repos - you should be able to figure it out
[05:09] <thechitowncubs> I have a weird problem with gdesklets that I have no idea whats wrong... when I start it... it connects to the daemon fine, but then it starts spawning all these blank grey windows... And then to stop it I have to sudo killall -9 python to stop it from running. What could have gone wrong?
[05:09] <bigfoot> bob2, i have some idea of how to edit the list. so just to confirm: i should delete the repisotory called "Cd Ubuntu ......" right? There won't be any harm in doing so,right?
[05:09] <jasmuz> bigfoot: that is just the cd added to the list
[05:09] <bob2> bigfoot: yes, no harm
[05:09] <predius> Guys, do you have any idea why I'm not able to mount an ext2 drive?
[05:09] <predius> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1,
[05:09] <predius>        missing codepage or other error
[05:09] <predius>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:09] <predius>        dmesg | tail  or so
[05:10] <predius> then dmesg =
[05:10] <predius> EXT2-fs: hdc1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).
[05:10] <predius> EXT2-fs: hdc1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).
[05:10] <iceman> some how, when running Wolfenstein Enemy teratory. a app launched that set keyboard delay. now i need to change it to normal.
[05:10] <maxy_noob> jasmuz: sure ... my home network
[05:10] <REds> wat did u type to mount it
[05:10] <bob2> predius: you made it with fedora and want to read it under ubuntu?
[05:10] <JDahl> anyone here use emdebian?
[05:10] <Kakason> How do I install Ruby on ubuntu?
[05:10] <IIIEars__> maxy_noob - samba worked really well for me out of the box with ubuntu.
[05:10] <predius> Made it under Ubuntu.
[05:10] <bob2> iceman: that sounds an awful lot like a problem with wolfenstein, not ubuntu
[05:10] <jasmuz> maxy_noob: what are you conecting?
[05:10] <bob2> predius: are you using a 2.4 kernel now or something?
[05:10] <iceman> anyone know the app.
[05:10] <predius> stock kernel.
[05:11] <bob2> Kakason: sudo aptitude install ruby-stuff-youo-care-about
[05:11] <thechitowncubs> Is there any way I could see what kind of errors it is spitting out?
[05:11] <maxy_noob> 3ears: is there an interface for samba?
[05:11] <iceman> not a part of wolf.
[05:11] <bob2> predius: what does "uname -r" print?
[05:11] <jasmuz> iceman: did you try to do a hard reboot...to see if your system is slow?
[05:11] <predius> 2.6.10-5-386
[05:11] <bob2> iceman: ubuntu doesn't randomly "pop up a program which slows your keyboard down", either
[05:11] <iceman> system is fine.
[05:11] <IIIEars__> iceman - It isn't that we don't want to help. just more likely someone has had the same experience and posted it on the web.
[05:11] <thechitowncubs> because when i run gdesklets in the terminal it connects to the daemon then it brings me back tot he console
[05:12] <maxy_noob> jasmuz: host box has ubuntu (2 NICs); three other boxes have XP (1 NIC each). We're all connected to a hub
[05:12] <jasmuz> maxy_noob: that sounds awfuly easy...where have you had problems?
[05:12] <predius> bob2 2.6.10-5-386
[05:12] <iceman> cant type to find it. so came here to start
[05:12] <bob2> predius: that is bizaare
[05:12] <bob2> predius: and you created it under the same kernel?
[05:13] <crimsun> stuNNed: pong
[05:13] <maxy_noob> the XP boxes can see each other, but they don't have internet connectivity
[05:13] <IIIEars__> iceman - will you do a favor?
[05:13] <predius> probably not.
[05:13] <predius> I'm trying different ones.
[05:13] <maxy_noob> I've used firestarter but that didn't seem to help
[05:13] <predius> They were all from the reps.
[05:13] <IIIEars__> iceman - when you find the solution will you share it here?
[05:13] <iceman> yes
[05:13] <jasmuz> maxy_noob: did you start the internet superserver on your Ubuntu box?
[05:13] <bob2> predius: that's very odd
[05:14] <maxy_noob> uhm, not purposely, no (I don't think)
[05:14] <maxy_noob> (note the name: maxy_noob)
[05:14] <jasmuz> Ok
[05:15] <jasmuz> maxy_noob:  im not much of a lan person ,,.....ask around...to see what you need to have your LAN running in no time
[05:15] <maxy_noob> ask around here, you mean?
[05:15] <stuNNed> crimsun: remember we were talking about setting up two soundcards?  there is person in #creative could use some help with that, if you have a minute.
[05:15] <jasmuz> of course maxy_noob
[05:15] <maxy_noob> k, thanks for the encouragement, jasmuz
[05:15] <iceman> what file has keyboard settings/
[05:15] <crimsun> stuNNed: with ALSA?
[05:16] <jasmuz> you are welcomed maxy_noob
[05:16] <Epix> is USB 2.0 backwards compatable with 1.1?
[05:16] <IIIEars__> maxy_noob - PSST! - crimsun is really very good. (don't tell him i blew his cover.) - grin
[05:16] <jasmuz> Epix: Of course!
[05:16] <maxy_noob> hahahahaha
[05:16] <stuNNed> crimsun: right now oss but maybe alsa later, could you join please?
[05:16] <maxy_noob> thanks IIIears
[05:16] <crimsun> stuNNed: have him ping me when he's dealing with ALSA, thanks
[05:17] <stuNNed> crimsun: got it, thanks
[05:17] <Epix> jasmuz: i thought so. and when usb 3.0 comes out, my usb fondue pot will be able to melt so miuch more!
[05:17] <jasmuz> Is there any Lan dude here.... maxy_noob needs help on one
[05:17] <maxy_noob> thanks jas!
[05:17] <thechitowncubs> whats the difference between completely remove and just remove in synaptic?
[05:18] <jasmuz> Epix: hahahaha
[05:18] <Epix> jasmuz: you read that on thinkgeek?
[05:18] <Epix> "track planes with laser beams"
[05:18] <jasmuz> Epix:  i read that...on the net
[05:18] <jasmuz> dont know where
[05:18] <iceman> shoot. stuck
[05:18] <hybrid_goth> thechitowncubs: remove removes the packages complete removes the libs also
[05:19] <bigfoot> i've just downloaded fuse-source from synaptic and read the accompanying readme.debian file. but i, a 3week newbie into the linux world have no idea how to make it work with gmailfs. Does anybody have some knowledge about fuse-source and gmailfs?
[05:19] <nickrud> thechitowncubs, remove leaves configuration files, completly removes configuration files
[05:19] <maxy_noob> I think Mr. crimsun might be busy
[05:19] <crimsun> maxy_noob: did you need something?
[05:19] <nalioth> Epix: those are the beams emitted by sharks
[05:19] <maxy_noob> Hi crimsun
[05:19] <Epix> nalioth: nope :P
[05:20] <maxy_noob> Yes, I'm not able to successfully get my home network working.
[05:20] <maxy_noob> host box has ubuntu (2 NICs); three other boxes have XP (1 NIC each). We're all connected to a hub
[05:20] <bob2> bigfoot: /usr/share/doc/fuse-source/README.Debian
[05:20] <hybrid_goth> anyone know of a podcast util for linux?
[05:20] <bob2> or .gz
[05:21] <maxy_noob> The XP boxes can see each other but they can't connect to the web
[05:21] <hybrid_goth> bob2: hey how is it goin
[05:21] <maxy_noob> I tried firestarter but unsuccessfully
[05:21] <bob2> hybrid_goth: good thanks, how are you?
[05:21] <hybrid_goth> bob2: great just looking for podcast software for linux
[05:21] <nalioth> well well well
[05:21] <bigfoot> bob2, i read the file, which group do i choose? which user ? sorry, pardon my ignorance.
[05:21] <nalioth> another filthy PPC user
[05:22] <iceman> ?
[05:22] <bob2> bigfoot: I don't know what you're talking about, doesn't it explain how to compile it?
[05:22] <nalioth> hybrid_goth is a filthy PPC user
[05:22] <iceman> what is this / /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd/overrideSettings
[05:22] <jeff25> is there any way to disable gnome-terminal redraws?
[05:22] <bob2> hybrid_goth: isn't 'podcasting' just generating an rss file for some audio files?
[05:22] <bigfoot> bob2, yes there are instructions, but i'm afraid i don't understand it.
[05:22] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: that's the ladies bathroom window (i like to make a splash when i come in)
[05:22] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: heh
[05:23] <jasmuz> bob2:  the inverse
[05:23] <crimsun> maxy_noob: I need a bit more info regarding the Ubuntu box. I presume only one of its nics is plugged into the hub?
[05:23] <maxy_noob> yes
[05:23] <bob2> bigfoot: just do what it says, "sudo adduser bigfoot fuse", where bigfoot is your user
[05:23] <maxy_noob> actually no
[05:23] <maxy_noob> the ubuntu box functions like a router
[05:23] <bigfoot> thank you, bob2
[05:24] <maxy_noob> it serves the internet to the others
[05:24] <bigfoot> bob2, done.
[05:24] <bigfoot> now, after doing the fuse-ing, what's the next step in getting gmailfs to work?
[05:24] <iceman> where is sys.conf at/
[05:24] <bob2> bigfoot: cd ~/ ; tar -jxf /usr/src/fuse.tar.bz2
[05:25] <bob2> bigfoot: you don't have fuse working yet
[05:25] <bob2> you've barely started
[05:25] <jasmuz> brb
[05:25] <bigfoot> oh, i see.
[05:25] <crimsun> maxy_noob: only one of the Ubuntu box's nics needs to (should) be plugged into the hub
[05:25] <bob2> jasmuz: the inverse? music files of people reading out rs Dsfeeds?
[05:25] <bigfoot> okay, did the cd ... command.
[05:25] <maxy_noob> (how do you guys message her with individuals names at the start of the message?)
[05:25] <bob2> maxy_noob: you type it
[05:25] <wasap> im trying to compile the game boson 0.10 cause its not in ubuntus package system but it fails at this error checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) not found.
[05:26] <bob2> maxy_noob: or, type the first couple of letters, hit tab and let your irc client type it
[05:26] <bob2> wasap: install libqt3-mt-dev and build-essential, and read /usr/share/doc/libqt3-mt-dev/README.Debia
[05:26] <wasap> ran synaptic and i have basically all qt3 packages installed already
[05:26] <maxy_noob> cool bob!
[05:26] <maxy_noob> crimsun, you're right again
[05:26] <bob2> wasap: then rm config.cache
[05:26] <hybrid_goth> no one uses any podcast software in here
[05:26] <iceman> well may toast ubuntu. stupid type rate
[05:27] <bob2> iceman: yay for blaming random things
[05:27] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: this is the Ubuntu channel
[05:27] <bob2> I think it was your kettles fault, personally
[05:27] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: try #twisted_audio down the hall
[05:27] <bob2> or maybe the washing machine's
[05:27] <maxy_noob> crimsun, eth1 connected to internet
[05:27] <justin> *cough*pebkac*cough*
[05:27] <maxy_noob> crimsun, eth0 connected to hub
[05:27] <maxy_noob> 2 NICs on my (ubuntu) box
[05:27] <iceman> cant type to search web
[05:28] <bigfoot> i really don't know the next step to proceed in my attempt to get gmailfs running. please advise.
[05:28] <D[a] vey> has anybody had much luck with ubuntu on laptops?
[05:28] <Aegir`> Yeap
[05:28] <crimsun> maxy_noob: ok, so your default iface on the Ubuntu box should be eth1.
[05:28] <Aegir`> Much luck
[05:28] <justin> iceman: why would you need to search the web? go to the keyboard settings and undo whatever you did
[05:28] <maxy_noob> crimsun, yes
[05:28] <crimsun> maxy_noob: nics 1 and 2 should be on different subnets
[05:28] <Aegir`> Davey, Whats your problem?
[05:28] <bob2> bigfoot: there's no readme in the dir you created?
[05:28] <IIIEars__> crimsun = is guru in finnish.
[05:28] <Davey> Aegir`: still downloading :D
[05:28] <maxy_noob> crimsun, ok?
[05:28] <DefHandz> I need active x control to get Wine to run.
[05:29] <DefHandz> Where can I get this?
[05:29] <DefHandz> O_o
[05:29] <Aegir`> Davey, Ahhh ;)
[05:29] <bob2> Davey: works great for lots of people
[05:29] <Davey> Aegir`: but I had serious issues with SuSE :/
[05:29] <bigfoot> bob2, the readme is there.
[05:29] <crimsun> maxy_noob: is ip forwarding enabled?
[05:29] <IIIEars__> well any language really.
[05:29] <bigfoot> and i've read it.
[05:29] <nalioth> i thought crimsun was the color of fresh blood
[05:29] <Aegir`> Davey, What laptop, what hardware?
[05:29] <maxy_noob> crimsun, how do I check?
[05:29] <DefHandz> I need active x control to get Wine to run, where can I get it?
[05:29] <iceman> not in keyboard settings. some type delay application.
[05:29] <bigfoot> though wether i understand it is a different matter. 8-)
[05:29] <maxy_noob> firestarter?
[05:29] <bob2> DefHandz: you need to be way way way way way more specific before anyone can help you
[05:29] <DefHandz> Alright.
[05:29] <crimsun> maxy_noob: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:30] <JDahl> DefHandz, what do you mean? wine runs fine out of the box
[05:30] <Davey> Aegir`: its a Medion laptop, Celeron 2.6Ghz, 768MB RAM, 40GB HDD, SiS graphics and NIC IIRC. The biggest worry is my PCMCIA D-Link DWL-650 WNIC though...
[05:30] <DefHandz> I am asked to install Mozilla Active X control, but it never does...and I have problems running the programs because of it.
[05:30] <Aegir`> Hmm
[05:30] <DefHandz> I most likely installed it wrong, being the linux newbie I am X_X
[05:30] <Aegir`> Davey, You'll just have to try and see.
[05:30] <maxy_noob> crimsun, DONE
[05:30] <jasmuz> Davey: did you look for the card in the Linux compatibility list?
[05:30] <bob2> DefHandz: what are you trying to run?
[05:30] <DefHandz> Steam
[05:31] <Davey> jasmuz: I don't even remember where that is :/
[05:31] <Aegir`> Davey, If you still get issues, you'll have to google them specifically. Good luck :)
[05:31] <jasmuz> www.linuxquestions.org/hcl
[05:31] <Davey> I know some people have had success with it though, just don't know if ubuntu has support by default or not, if not, I can't get online to download what I need to get it working ;)
[05:31] <crimsun> maxy_noob: what's the value?
[05:31] <maxy_noob> 1
[05:32] <crimsun> ok, good.
[05:32] <bob2> bigfoot: m-a -u .
[05:32] <crimsun> maxy_noob: what networks are the nics on?
[05:32] <bob2> bigfoot: in the dir called modules
[05:32] <bigfoot> what's m -a -u?
[05:32] <maxy_noob> XP?
[05:32] <bigfoot> do i go the modules dir and then run that command?
[05:32] <bob2> bigfoot: the command to run
[05:32] <bigfoot> okay.
[05:32] <bob2> yes, that's what I said
[05:32] <iceman> anyone know a delay type rate application in ubuntu. /
[05:32] <Aegir`> Davey, I know the feeling. I was stuck at school with a recently installed copy of Ubuntu. Needed to use the Wireless to get the kernel sources that I needed to install the wireless card in the first place ;)
[05:33] <bigfoot> bob2: i got this error: bash: m: command not found
[05:33] <DefHandz> bob2, any clue what I should do
[05:33] <crimsun> maxy_noob: yes and eth0 from the Ubuntu box
[05:33] <bob2> bigfoot: then select "prepare", then select "SELECT", then select *only* fuse (with the space bar), then tab to <ok>, enter, then BUILD, say no, say no to installing, too
[05:33] <r0d> where can i get monodevelop plugins?
[05:33] <bob2> DefHandz: try #winehq
[05:33] <bob2> bigfoot: read again what I said
[05:34] <bob2> bigfoot: m-a, not m -a
[05:34] <FlyingSquirrel31> when I run tvtime in ubuntu, I get no sound.
[05:34] <bigfoot> bob2, okay, i'm sorry. i'll do that correctly this time.
[05:34] <iceman> will look a log files
[05:34] <maxy_noob> crimsun, I presume
[05:34] <maxy_noob> it sees "Windows Network"
[05:34] <justin> FlyingSquirrel31: increase the volume
[05:34] <bigfoot> bob2, i did as you said and i still get an error: bash: m-a: command not found
[05:34] <crimsun> maxy_noob: paste me their IP addresses in priv
[05:35] <FlyingSquirrel31> justin, ha ha, very funny... all of the ubuntu sounds are fine.
[05:35] <maxy_noob> crimsun, ip addresses on my ubuntu box?
[05:35] <justin> FlyingSquirrel31: yes, and all of them are irrelevant to the tv volume
[05:35] <bob2> bigfoot: sudo aptitude install build-essential module-assistant
[05:36] <maxy_noob> crimsun, I don't assign them manually in XP
[05:36] <thechitowncubs> I have a weird problem with gdesklets that I have no idea whats wrong... when I start it... it connects to the daemon fine, but then it starts spawning all these blank grey windows... And then to stop it I have to sudo killall -9 python to stop it from running. What could have gone wrong?
[05:36] <justin> or rather, unrelated
[05:36] <thechitowncubs> because when i run gdesklets in the terminal it connects to the daemon then it brings me back tot he console
[05:36] <thechitowncubs> Is there any way I could see what kind of errors it is spitting out?
[05:36] <FlyingSquirrel31> justin, how do I control the tv vol? I tried audio vol boost.
[05:36] <justin> FlyingSquirrel31: run the mixer, increase the line in or whatever
[05:37] <IIIEars__> nice tip bob2 :)
[05:37] <bigern|fswebhost> greetings
[05:37] <crimsun> maxy_noob: on all the cards
[05:37] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: i'm sure your problem has something to do with windows(tm)
[05:37] <FlyingSquirrel31> justin, sorry... the mixer... if this is as simple as you think it is I'm going to shoot myself.
[05:37] <bigern|fswebhost> got a question
[05:38] <FlyingSquirrel31> justin, What is the mixer?
[05:38] <justin> FlyingSquirrel31: the volume
[05:38] <nalioth> bigern|fswebhost: just ask
[05:38] <justin> you clicky the little speaker icon until the other window comes up
[05:38] <bigfoot> IIIEars, just curious, what was the nice tip?
[05:38] <maxy_noob> crimsun, I have DHCP enabled on all the boxes and they obtain IP addresses automatically
[05:38] <bigern|fswebhost> i loaded ubuntu horay b4 and it works great
[05:38] <bigern|fswebhost> well
[05:39] <bigern|fswebhost> i loaded it on my rack server
[05:39] <FlyingSquirrel31> justin, oh you mean the volume control that appears as a speaker near the clock? if not how do I run it / what is the program name?
[05:39] <DefHandz> how do I move files in konsole?
[05:39] <bigern|fswebhost> and instead of it going to the desktop
[05:39] <bigern|fswebhost> it just takes me to the command like
[05:39] <nalioth> DefHandz: your answer (and pls read b4 doing) is "man mv" or "man cp"
[05:39] <bigern|fswebhost> errrr
[05:39] <bigern|fswebhost> line
[05:39] <justin> FlyingSquirrel31: um, it's in the menus under sound
[05:39] <jasmuz> DefHandz: mv foofile /foo/bar/directory
[05:40] <nalioth> DefHandz: cuz "mv" is another name for "delete"
[05:40] <crimsun> maxy_noob: I still need to know their IP address
[05:40] <crimsun> maxy_noob: if you don't feel comfortable pasting them publicly, just query me
[05:40] <DefHandz> ....Why would I want to delete?
[05:40] <DefHandz> o_O
[05:40] <DefHandz> OH!
[05:40] <maxy_noob> how do I do that?
[05:40] <bigern|fswebhost> i have to login : username
[05:40] <maxy_noob> query you?
[05:40] <bigfoot> bob2, okay, i'm in the process of "prepare."  No volume control there...
[05:41] <darmou> I'm using extended types and can't seem to find them in a search in the catalog.
[05:42] <iceman> how
[05:42] <justin> FlyingSquirrel31: the first menu
[05:42] <bigern|fswebhost> did ya'll follow all that
[05:42] <eskaypey> im installing ubuntu when im upto configuring network step it configures it with DHCP allright but can not detect default route
[05:42] <Amaranth> bigern|fswebhost:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:42] <eskaypey> what do i do?
[05:42] <bigern|fswebhost> k
[05:42] <darmou> Do Archetypes need to be regisitered with the catalog somehow so they can be searched for with portal.search_catalog ?
[05:42] <justin> iceman: try clicking the menus on your screen and looking for the keyboard settings?
[05:43] <hayden> im trying to make a shell script, how can i get the current date in the form yyyymmdd to appear?
[05:43] <bigern|fswebhost> Amaranth command not found
[05:43] <Cybermagellan> http://hosting.cybermagellan.com
[05:43] <nalioth> bigern|fswebhost: can you do the "startx" thang (or did you install the server ver of ubuntu?
[05:44] <iceman> justin . did no luck. some typerate settings app
[05:44] <bigern|fswebhost> oh crap, your right
[05:44] <bigern|fswebhost> i did the server install
[05:44] <Amaranth> bigern|fswebhost: Yeah, you must have installed the server version.
[05:44] <bigern|fswebhost> i wasnt thinkin
[05:44] <Amaranth> bigern|fswebhost: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:44] <FlyingSquirrel31> justin, okay... I see what you're talking about, but it made no diff. Shame, I was getting excited.
[05:44] <bigern|fswebhost> duh
[05:44] <justin> iceman: control-alt-backspace?
[05:44] <nalioth> bigern|fswebhost: add this pkg "ubuntu-desktop"
[05:44] <justin> FlyingSquirrel31: you have your tv card connected to your sound card right?
[05:44] <Cybermagellan> Let me know if anyone wants hosting...
[05:44] <josh_> Anyone able to install a Java Runtime Environment?
[05:44] <bigfoot> bob2, finally. am finished the "build" thing.
[05:44] <nalioth> josh_: that is a very general question
[05:44] <Amaranth> josh_: http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java15
[05:45] <nalioth> josh_: i've installed it on several client boxen, but not on my PPC machines
[05:45] <moqui> josh_, yes
[05:45] <FlyingSquirrel31> justin, Is there supposed to be a cable from the tuner card to the soundcard like cdroms usually have?
[05:45] <herpes> is it possible to use kernel 2.4 drives in a 2.6 kernel system?
[05:45] <Amaranth> no
[05:45] <zul> no
[05:45] <justin> FlyingSquirrel31: yep
[05:45] <iceman> still the same.
[05:45] <Amaranth> herpes: assuming you meant to say drivers
[05:45] <bigfoot> bob2, in the flood did you see the line on "Couldn't create the /usr/src/linux symlink"?
[05:45] <bigfoot> will that be a problem?
[05:46] <justin> FlyingSquirrel31: some cards can do it digitally, but usually there is one
[05:46] <jasmuz> FlyingSquirrel31: there is a stereo plug from the OUT from the TV card to the IN jack in the Soundcard
[05:46] <FlyingSquirrel31> That's prob it. I never connect them but my cd's always play, so I've gotten out of the hgabit of bothering with them.
[05:46] <Xenguy> hayden: DATETODAY=`date +"%Y-%m-%d"`
[05:46] <moqui> josh_, google it
[05:46] <justin> iceman: system->preferences->keyboard
[05:46] <hayden> Thanks Xenguy:
[05:46] <moqui> josh_, thats how i got what i needed
[05:46] <josh_> how do I add programs into my applications menu?
[05:46] <justin> FlyingSquirrel31: yeah, most programs support digital extraction to play cds that way..
[05:46] <Xenguy> hayden: yw (sets the variable)
[05:46] <nalioth> josh_: are you asking for help installing, or just wondering if others got it installed?
[05:47] <bigfoot> bob2, after finishing your instructions, i'm back on the main screen at "module assistant, interactive mode"
[05:47] <justin> bttv cards have a btaudio driver that gives you another dsp to read from, but for tvtime it is better to just connect the cable
[05:47] <hayden> Xenguy, what do u mean 'sets'
[05:47] <FlyingSquirrel31> justin, SWEET!!!
[05:47] <iceman> it slowed my type delay. some app. wolfenstein opened while i was playing. / need to find what app
[05:47] <josh_> How to install it because I go through and it says it installs, yet I go back to the site that requires it for firefox and it still says I need the java runtime environment plugin
[05:47] <FlyingSquirrel31> justin, you don't know how long I spent trying to install myth to get this to work.
[05:47] <Xenguy> hayden: just mean that a variable is created that contains todays date in that form
[05:48] <nalioth> josh_: ubuntuguide.org
[05:48] <hayden> ok
[05:48] <FlyingSquirrel31> justin, I thought that jack was extra.
[05:48] <justin> FlyingSquirrel31: well mythtv doesn't need the cable if you load the btaudio and tell mythtv to record from /dev/dsp2 or such
[05:48] <justin> that is, if you have a bttv card
[05:48] <eskaypey> shouldnt dhcp take care of default route?
[05:48] <iceman> kde control center does not change it .
[05:48] <nalioth> josh_: are you on a intel x86 box?
[05:48] <josh_> no
[05:48] <josh_> AMD
[05:49] <Cybermagellan> if anyone wants hosting off my space send me an PM
[05:49] <nalioth> josh_: amd64?
[05:49] <josh_> No
[05:49] <josh_> Athlon XP
[05:49] <Epix> what does core dumped mean?
[05:49] <FlyingSquirrel31> justin, that brings me to the other quest.  I've gone through the myth install thouroghly,
[05:49] <iceman> let me see if it affected gnome
[05:49] <nalioth> josh_: then you should have no trouble following the inst on ubuntuguide.org
[05:49] <nalioth> i've set up several client x86 boxen with java
[05:49] <josh_> I tried to add the repositories from the site and it said login failed incorrect password...
[05:49] <Xenguy> Epix: a program barfed, a lot :-)
[05:50] <nalioth> josh_: dont use apt to do java
[05:50] <Epix> Xenguy: but what is this core?
[05:50] <FlyingSquirrel31> but when I run mythfrontend I get : It gets denied access to the db
[05:50] <josh_> I'm using the link I was given
[05:50] <iceman> gnome is ok ..
[05:50] <Xenguy> Epix: google for details; that's the gist
[05:50] <FlyingSquirrel31> justin, how do I tell it the password for the db?
[05:50] <Epix> gist?
[05:50] <iceman> type rate here is fine
[05:50] <justin> FlyingSquirrel31: you didn't add your user to the mythtv group
[05:50] <ra21vi> hello room
[05:50] <jasmuz> Epix: its this huge debug log!
[05:51] <Xenguy> Epix: gist, essential idea
[05:51] <nalioth> josh_: i've never had a bit of trouble d/l the .bin and following the inst
[05:51] <ra21vi> I have just installed Ubuntu, is fast and I m messing my system to learn
[05:51] <Epix> rofl... http://www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~omri/Humor/CoreDumpedBlues.html
[05:51] <iceman> anyone know where kde stores the type rate delay settings ?
[05:51] <bob2> bigfoot: lordy
[05:51] <ra21vi> tell me how to install links
[05:51] <bigfoot> what's lordy?
[05:51] <bob2> there's so many more useful things you could be doing right now
[05:52] <bigfoot> who me?
[05:52] <ra21vi> how to install links
[05:52] <justin> ra21vi: the same way you install any other program
[05:52] <bob2> bigfoot: sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) /usr/src/linux/
[05:52] <ra21vi> justin: 1st time using apt-get
[05:52] <ra21vi> pls tell me the command
[05:52] <FlyingSquirrel31> justin, it's true, I was missing, but still can't connect to the db. does the backend or mysql need to be restarted?
[05:52] <justin> ra21vi: no one said anything about apt-get
[05:52] <justin> ra21vi: try reading the ubuntu guide?
[05:52] <ra21vi> apt-get install links
[05:52] <nalioth> ra21vi: there is a fine apt-get howto on the ubuntulinux.org/wiki/
[05:53] <bigfoot> bob2, do i just copy and paste as is, or do i put in my ubuntu username where you have "uname"?
[05:53] <FlyingSquirrel31> justin, besides the pw to the db is separate from normal user access, isn't it?
[05:53] <bob2> bigfoot: as is
[05:53] <ra21vi> justin: but its not listed in the package manager... and rite now i m in recovery mode...
[05:53] <bigfoot> bob2, done.
[05:53] <justin> ra21vi: try elinks
[05:54] <ra21vi> i have messed with xorg.conf , and graphics not starting... but thats a lil problem
[05:54] <eskaypey> how do i set default route guys?
[05:54] <bob2> eskaypey: why?
[05:54] <ra21vi> justin: tell me the command to install elinks in command prompt
[05:54] <eskaypey> bob2: well it detected dhcp but says it cant see default route
[05:55] <nalioth> ra21vi: it was just told to you
[05:55] <FlyingSquirrel31> ra21vi, for starting out, you may want to just use synaptic.
[05:55] <Xenguy> ra21vi: apt-get install elinks (now read the guide)
[05:55] <N17R0> Hi how can I add Firestarter to my menu, so it run with root privilege ?
[05:55] <bigern|fswebhost> Amaranth thanx its almost done loading :D
[05:55] <pingswept> eskaypey: route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:55] <ra21vi> nalioth: tat was not told to me, i just made guess, :)
[05:55] <ra21vi> Xenguy: thanks
[05:55] <pingswept> eskaypey: That's probably not exactly right, but it's close.
[05:56] <iceman> shoot ... i need to fix kde ... some application that changed delay of keyboard open while or when i ran wolfenstein enemy terattory.. and i cant find the application ... so my type rate is s l o w ... in kde ... anyone know the application
[05:56] <pingswept> eskaypey: man route for exact syntax
[05:56] <josh_> I still can't get java installed. The stated repositories do not work
[05:56] <ra21vi> FlyingSquirrel31: as i said, rite now i m in command mode, rescue mode, so i cannt open graphical things
[05:56] <eskaypey> pingswept: route add -net default gw <IP_ADDRESS> ;)
[05:56] <Amaranth> iceman: Can you change it in kcontrol?
[05:56] <nalioth> josh_: dont use repositorys
[05:56] <pingswept> Is that right? OK.
[05:56] <moqui> josh_, do you have the correct repos, if so have u ran apt-get update
[05:56] <FlyingSquirrel31> ra21vi, sorry, I just jumped into the conversation.
[05:57] <nalioth> josh_: download the bin file pointed out to you in the ubuntulinux.org/wiki/
[05:57] <josh_> need to install java. Period
[05:57] <josh_> I already did
[05:57] <josh_> it does me no good
[05:57] <iceman> Amaranth nope .. this was some small application that turned on keyboard delay ..
[05:57] <pingswept> eskaypey, remember that it will disappear when you reboot.
[05:57] <ra21vi> iceman: configure KDE keyboard settings in control panel, or just get geeky, and look in xorg.conf
[05:57] <CrustyPunk> Is it at all possile to dual boot with XP and Ubuntu, when XP was installed after Ubuntu? I already tried reinstalling only GRUB from the Ubuntu install CD, that didn't work.
[05:57] <Amaranth> iceman: I'm sure it was, I'm saying it should be changable in kcontrol.
[05:57] <ra21vi> FlyingSquirrel31: :), do u jump a lot :) just joking
[05:58] <iceman> control panal ... in kde .. i tried several settings ... where in xorg.conf ?
[05:58] <N17R0> Hi how can I add Firestarter to my menu+icon, so it run with root privilege ?
[05:58] <justin> iceman: xorg.conf has nothing to do with it
[05:58] <Amaranth> N17R0: Use smeg to add it and for the command put gksudo firestarter
[05:58] <nalioth> well goodnight folks
[05:58] <hayden> how do i make a tar into tar.gz in shell?
[05:58] <jasmuz> CrustyPunk: check the www.ubuntuguide.org topic on that
[05:58] <bigfoot> bob2?
[05:58] <Amaranth> N17R0: or whatever it is to run it, for command put gksudo <thatcommand>
[05:58] <justin> hayden: how many programs do you have that start with gz?
[05:59] <ra21vi> hayden: bunzip
[05:59] <bob2> bigfoot: !
[05:59] <N17R0> alright let me check
[05:59] <jeff25> when I try to apt-get install mplayer I get get unmet dependencies - how do I deal with this?
[05:59] <iceman> let me see if theres a post on et website ?
[05:59] <Amaranth> hayden: gzip foo.tar, iirc
[05:59] <Davey> man I love cable :)
[05:59] <Davey> Hey Amaranth :)
[05:59] <hayden> thanks Amaranth
[05:59] <bigfoot> just wondering what to do now. I appreciate your time.
[05:59] <hayden> no thanks justin
[05:59] <Amaranth> Davey: !
[05:59] <Davey> Amaranth: fancy finding you here ;)
[06:00] <N17R0> Amaranth: it works like a charm thx man :D
[06:00] <Amaranth> Davey: that's nothing, watch this :)
[06:00] <Davey> you know, this is a bad time (5 minutes from finishing my download) to wonder if I have ny blank CDs...
[06:00] <eskaypey> pingswept: just was gonna say, how do you edit route permanently
[06:00] <Amaranth> Davey: :D
[06:00] <Davey> Amaranth: damn dude, I'm gonna tap you for all your Ubuntu-fu :)
[06:00] <justin> hayden: enjoy being spoonfed.
[06:00] <pingswept> eskaypey, no idea. Never figured it out. Wish I knew.
[06:01] <Dreamer3> anyone know how i can quickly turn off acpi and force APM?
[06:01] <Davey> hmm, I only have DVDs.
[06:01] <Davey> crap.
[06:01] <hayden> justin: get over it
[06:01] <eskaypey> pingswept: cool thanks
[06:01] <Cybermagellan> Dreamer3: acpi=off
[06:01] <Davey> can I put the CD ISO on a DVD?
[06:01] <CrustyPunk> Okay, better question: is it possible to boot into Linux without a boot manager? Because as of now, Windows automagically boots up and every tutorial I can find on boot managers only has directions for installing them from Linux
[06:01] <Cybermagellan> I'm not sure about forcing APM
[06:01] <Dreamer3> Cybermagellan: ah... well, wouldn't apm start if acpi doesn't?
[06:01] <Amaranth> Davey: That won't take long, I don't have much. ;)
[06:01] <Davey> Amaranth: pfft
[06:02] <pingswept> CrustyPunk, no. You definitely need a boot manager.
[06:02] <jeff25> can someone please point me to a guide that shows me how to install mplayer ?
[06:02] <jasmuz> CrustyPunk: why dont you enter with a live cd and fix grub?
[06:02] <pingswept> Great idea, jasmuz.
[06:02] <jasmuz> CrustyPunk: or make a boot disk?
[06:02] <iceman> anyone know a application that changes the typerate delay in kde
[06:02] <jasmuz> jeff25: what problems do you have?
[06:02] <CrustyPunk> jasmuz: I tried fixing grub from my CD. It won't let me install it anywhere, even on a disk
[06:02] <josh_> So will anyone help me install java? I already have the stupid file, but its not installing
[06:03] <subxero> Has anyone here successfully installed LIRC on Ubuntu 5.04?
[06:03] <jeff25> jasmuz: whe I apt-get install mplayer-k6 I have unmet dependencies
[06:03] <jeff25> *when
[06:03] <Cybermagellan> Dreamer3: I dunno....I have had problems with ACPI....that is the only way I know how to turn it off
[06:03] <justin> josh_: it would probably help if you explained what "not installing" means
[06:03] <jasmuz> CrustyPunk: i think you are doing it the wrong way
[06:03] <Dreamer3> Cybermagellan: *nods*
[06:03] <jasmuz> jeff25: does it ask you to satisfy dependencies?
[06:03] <byoungguk> hello
[06:03] <josh_> Not installing means when I follow the install instructions it says the folder does not exist and wont allow me to install
[06:03] <byoungguk> do you know hanterm?
[06:03] <Dreamer3> i really have a terrible memory leak over a day or two (all my memory gets used up and starts to swap and really slow down) and i have no idea how to fix it... had it every since hoary
[06:03] <CrustyPunk> jasmuz: do I need to do it with the live cd? I don't have that; I have the full install cd
[06:04] <crimsun> jeff25: use the testing debian-marillat repo with hoary multiverse and universe
[06:04] <jeff25> crimsun: I am I believe
[06:04] <jasmuz> CrustyPunk:  having a live cd is a savior in cases like that
[06:04] <justin> josh_: it says "the folder does not exist"?
[06:04] <jasmuz> jeff25: dont use marillat
[06:04] <jasmuz> jeff25: use ubuntu-backports
[06:04] <crimsun> jeff25: you need to pass the multiverse version explicitly to aptitude
[06:04] <CrustyPunk> jasmuz: Because whenever I go into the installer, I skip everything else excpt GRUB. It tells me I can't install to anywhere, it stops at about 50% and says "Oops!  But I won't tell you why!"
[06:04] <josh_> you want me to go through it all again to get the exact error?
[06:05] <justin> josh_: how else do you expect anyone to tell you what is wrong?
[06:05] <jeff25> jasmuz: I've got backports and marillat in my sources.list
[06:05] <Cybermagellan> How do I control using Synaptic where plone gets installed to?
[06:05] <jeff25> crimsun: ^^^
[06:05] <jasmuz> CrustyPunk: did you have a complete setup already
[06:06] <Dreamer3> crimsun: don't guess anyone else started reporting memory leaks?
[06:06] <jeff25> crimsun: I've got marrilat and backports in my sources.list
[06:06] <jasmuz> jeff25:  ok....are you doing a apt via console or synaptic?
[06:06] <crimsun> Dreamer3: nafaik
[06:06] <josh_> "bash: cd: /usr/java/: No such file or directory"
[06:06] <jeff25> jasmuz: console
[06:06] <CrustyPunk> jasmuz: Yeah. I had a complete install, GRUB and everything, then I had to reinstall Windows due to some problems, now I can't get to Ubuntu
[06:06] <justin> josh_: and what did you type to get it to output that?
[06:06] <jeff25> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:06] <jeff25>   mplayer-k6: Depends: libavcodeccvs (>= 2:20050417-0.0) but it is not going to be installed
[06:06] <jeff25> sorry
[06:06] <justin> CrustyPunk: press alt-f2, fix
[06:06] <jeff25>               Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[06:07] <justin> jeff25: you're installing the debian mplayer packages, don't do that
[06:07] <josh_> exactly what the install instructions said
[06:07] <josh_> I copied and pasted
[06:07] <Amaranth> Davey: Make sure you get Smeg, GNOME 2.10 doesn't have a menu editor.
[06:07] <justin> josh_: and what would that be?
[06:07] <Davey> Amaranth: Smeg?
[06:07] <jeff25> justin: ok should I remove marillat from my sources.list?
[06:07] <CrustyPunk> justin: press alt-F2 where? In the installer?
[06:07] <Amaranth> Davey: http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/
[06:07] <justin> CrustyPunk: yep
[06:07] <crimsun> jeff25: ugh, get rid of one of them.  At least Christian Marillat has a half clue of packaging.
[06:08] <josh_> I can't
[06:08] <josh_> It says i dont have access to
[06:08] <justin> josh_: maybe you should be doing what the instructions say as root?
[06:08] <josh_> I did
[06:09] <justin> josh_: you obviously didn't
[06:09] <josh_> Yes, I did
[06:09] <subxero> Hmm. I've been trying to set up LIRC for a couple days now. I've looked at at least 4 guides on how to do it under Ubuntu, and somewhere along the way, something goes wrong, and I'm not quite sure how to fix it. If anyone could help me, I'd happily explain the problem in more detail.
[06:09] <josh_> I followed the instructions exactly as its typed out
[06:09] <IIIEars__>      Amarnth - did you have the "Break My Ubuntu" link? - it included marillat didn't it?
[06:09] <josh_> I am not able to add or change files in the usr/local
[06:09] <justin> josh_: why not?
[06:09] <krod> whats the root passwor.... just kidding ;p
[06:09] <josh_> How should I know?
[06:09] <Davey> wtf, why can't I put a CD ISO on a DVD? :/
[06:10] <jasmuz> Davey: yes you can
[06:10] <Davey> not using Nero
[06:10] <justin> josh_: well it didn't say, "sorry, I am not allowing you to change files in /usr/local", so what did it actually say
[06:10] <josh_> It said that don't have access
[06:10] <jasmuz> you should google how..but im sure you can
[06:10] <justin> josh_: what is "it"?
[06:11] <josh_> I CANT CREATE FOLDERS
[06:11] <josh_> what part of that do you not get?
[06:11] <jeff25>   mplayer-k6: Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0) but 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 is to be installed
[06:11] <jeff25>               Depends: libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed
[06:11] <jeff25> still isn't working
[06:11] <IIIEars__> josh_ - what directory are you in?
[06:11] <crimsun> jeff25: you need main, restricted, universe, and multiverse from hoary enabled.
[06:11] <justin> josh_: the part about you not bothing to give actual, real, error messages and instead your flawed interpretations of them
[06:11] <cafuego> Davey: Use cdrecord. Works fine.
[06:11] <crimsun> jeff25: and you need to pass the version to aptitude
[06:11] <josh_> I gave real error messages
[06:11] <Amaranth> jeff25: get rid of marillat
[06:12] <IIIEars__> josh_ - you can try gksudo or sudo gedit.
[06:12] <Amaranth> Davey: Nope, different formats.
[06:12] <josh_> I've tried installing the damn thing and I can't do it and people are simply telling me to download a file I already have
[06:12] <crimsun> jeff25: like this: sudo aptitude install mplayer-586=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6
[06:12] <Amaranth> Davey: The DVD ISO has all of main on it though, iirc.
[06:12] <Amaranth> Davey: So it's worth it to get it.
[06:12] <justin> josh_: why can't you do it?
[06:12] <josh_> I dont know how to use it
[06:12] <justin> josh_: weren't you just talking about some instructions?
[06:12] <josh_> Because I can't make new folders and its required to install
[06:12] <justin> josh_: why can't you make new folders?
[06:13] <cafuego> josh_: You need to be root for that.
[06:13] <Amaranth> He probably needs to use sudo
[06:13] <josh_> Do the insturctions have gedit instructions? Oh gee look at that they dont...
[06:13] <justin> cafuego: well  he claimed he was
[06:13] <cafuego> josh_: What are you installing into /usr/local, btw?
[06:13] <josh_> I dont know why I cant make new folders, your guess is as good as mine
[06:13] <josh_> java
[06:13] <IIIEars__> justin - quality asurance.  Run 'make-jpkg' (from the java-package package) on the file.
[06:13] <cafuego> josh_: don't run the sun .bin file.
[06:14] <josh_> I dont have instructions for sudo
[06:14] <justin> 00:08 < justin> josh_: maybe you should be doing what the instructions say as root?
[06:14] <jeff25> crimsun: here is what I got:
[06:14] <jeff25> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[06:14] <justin> 00:08 < josh_> I did
[06:14] <Amaranth> cafuego: fakeroot make-jpkg file.bin
[06:14] <Davey> Amaranth: but I just finished downloading the CD ISO
[06:14] <jeff25> crimsun: is that correct?
[06:14] <cafuego> Amaranth: indeed.
[06:14] <Amaranth> Davey: So get a CD-R. ;)
[06:14] <cafuego> josh_: 'sudo apt-get install java-package'
[06:14] <Davey> unfortunately, its only 4x :/
[06:14] <Davey> time for a smoke I think, brb
[06:14] <josh_> where?
[06:14] <crimsun> jeff25: yes
[06:14] <Amaranth> Davey: Oh, and unless you like pain don't upgrade to breezy.
[06:14] <cafuego> josh_: Type that on the command line and enter YOUR password when asked for it.
[06:14] <Yoshimitsu> brb
[06:15] <justin> cafuego: ah, I guess whoever was packaging that finally settled on a name heh
[06:15] <justin> was wondering where make-j2se or whatever it was called went to
[06:15] <Amaranth> justin: We've had that package since warty
[06:15] <josh_> It says I already have it
[06:15] <cafuego> josh_: Good.
[06:15] <IIIEars__>  this link has some nice info on sudo http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[06:15] <josh_> my browser on the other hand says I dont
[06:15] <Amaranth> josh_: fakeroot make-jpkg file.bin
[06:15] <cafuego> josh_: Now run 'faekroot make-jpkg <name of the java .bin file>'
[06:15] <cafuego> fakeroot even
[06:15] <Davey> Amaranth: I wasn't going to ;)
[06:15] <Amaranth> josh_: where file.bin is the name of the file you downloaded
[06:15] <jeff25> crimsun: ok it's working... but now apt-get update says I have duplicates
[06:16] <Amaranth> Davey: You actually read the topic? You're a dying breed around here, it seems. :)
[06:16] <Yomic> Where would I go for information on why my Hoary CD hasn't shipped yet?
[06:16] <Davey> Amaranth: I didn't even know what breezy was when I read the topic, but I'm still a linux n00b, stable is fine for me ;)
[06:16] <Amaranth> Yomic: You wouldn't, you only get information on whether it shipped or not.
[06:16] <josh_> Amaranth, you're not getting it. I install, it says it installed but in reality it does not. So I try to manually install it and it wont allow me to
[06:16] <Davey> Amaranth: actually, I guess Ubuntu stable relates closer to Debian testing which I used use on my server
[06:17] <Amaranth> josh_: That command makes a .deb file
[06:17] <Yomic> Amaranth: I see. And where would that be?
[06:17] <Amaranth> josh_: which you install with sudo dpkg -i <nameofdeb>.deb
[06:17] <tbasten> anyone know how to make a folder so that u have to type in a password to access it, Like a personal folder
[06:17] <Amaranth> Yomic: http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[06:17] <josh_> I've gone through the whole agreeing to the terms and blah blah blah
[06:17] <cafuego> josh_: Is the make-jpkg command finished?
[06:17] <IIIEars__> Amaranth - nice tip - "fakeroot" Sun's info didn't help me only managed to get the vers command
[06:17] <cafuego> josh_: Good. Then now you have a j2se*.deb or j2re*.deb file there.
[06:17] <Yomic> Amaranth: Thanks.
[06:17] <cafuego> josh_: Can you verify that?
[06:18] <iceman> what is the app to run in terminal that configs keyboard, mouse, display
[06:18] <holycow> hey guys ... i have a laptop here with an atheros wireless chipset, lsmod shows ath_pci installed, lspci names the atheros ethernet controller but lists it as 'unknown device', and ifconfig doesn't show ath0 available ... anyone know how to go further from here in terms of debugging?
[06:18] <Amaranth> iceman: xset, iirc
[06:18] <cafuego> holycow: Is the madwifi driver loaded?
[06:18] <justin> iceman: when you screwed up your keyboard, were you running X as root?
[06:18] <iceman> justin no
[06:18] <josh_> No
[06:18] <cafuego> !&($^* it is
[06:18] <nickrud> josh, cafuego it's sun*deb, if it's a sun bin
[06:18] <cafuego> josh_: Any .deb files at all?
[06:19] <justin> iceman: then you don't need reconfigure anything
[06:19] <cafuego> ah yes
[06:19] <justin> iceman: add a new user account and see if that is screwed up too or not.
[06:19] <jeff25> what is a backport?
[06:19] <josh_> W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ubuntujava.yimports.com binary/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntujava.yimports.com_binary_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:19] <holycow> cafuego, appearently not
[06:19] <iceman> xorg.config . command to run
[06:19] <cafuego> josh_: ls *deb
[06:19] <cafuego> josh_: Does that list any files?
[06:19] <|iceman|> hey... that's my nick!  :o)~
[06:19] <justin> iceman: do NOT touch any xorg config stuff
[06:19] <Amaranth> iceman: xset
[06:19] <josh_> where am i typing that?
[06:20] <cafuego> josh_: On the command line
[06:20] <holycow> oh appearently i haveto compile madwifi drivers on ubuntu
[06:20] <holycow> i see
[06:20] <holycow> okay thanks for that tip, heh
[06:20] <jeff25> I get duplicates in apt-get update if I include the backport repositories
[06:20] <jeff25> why is that
[06:20] <cafuego> holycow: If all else fails, use ndiswrapper.
[06:20] <holycow> hell no, i refuse to submit to that :)
[06:20] <josh_> ls: *deb: No such file or directory
[06:20] <cafuego> josh_: Ok
[06:21] <cafuego> josh_: Did you run that command in the same directory as where you ran the make-jpkg command?
[06:21] <josh_> yes
[06:22] <cafuego> josh_: Did the make-jpkg command print any errors?
[06:23] <Davey> *sigh* 57% written
[06:23] <Davey> this is sad, longer to burn than to download :/
[06:23] <bigbill52a> nickserv identify bigbill52a
[06:23] <Davey> oops
[06:23] <cafuego> Davey: it could be a 1X cdrom
[06:23] <josh_> dpkg: error processing jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.deb (--install):
[06:23] <josh_>  cannot access archive: No such file or directoryErrors were encountered while processing:
[06:23] <Davey> cafuego: 4x
[06:23] <bigbill52a> duh
[06:23] <Davey> bigbill52a: time for a password change ;)
[06:23] <bigbill52a> hit the wrong key...
[06:24] <Davey> you think?
[06:24] <thoreauputic> bigbill52a: time for  a new password...
[06:24] <cafuego> Davey: I'm just saying, it could be worse ;-)
[06:24] <bigbill52a> can barely remember this one
[06:24] <Davey> cafuego: pfft
[06:24] <bigbill52a> how do you change passwords?
[06:24] <Davey> bigbill52a: /msg nickserv help
[06:25] <cafuego> bigbill52a: /msg nickserv help
[06:25] <Davey> hehe
[06:25] <jeff25> what is the difference between universe and multiverse packages?
[06:25] <cafuego> josh_: it said that when you ran 'make-jpkg'?
[06:25] <jeramy> jeff25: multiverse has non-free stuff in it
[06:25] <cafuego> josh_: Their names and their content.
[06:25] <jeff25> jeramy: ah
[06:26] <Davey> it took me 4.5mins to download, I'm at 74% burned and its taken 12.5 minutes so far :/
[06:26] <josh_> tell me exactly what to type then
[06:26] <cafuego> josh_: What is the exactl filename that you downloaded?
[06:26] <jeramy> josh_: Where is the sun .bin file?  Is it in your home directory?
[06:26] <bigbill52a> doesnt tell you how to change your password....
[06:27] <nickrud> jeff25, a backport is a package that is made unofficially, and meant to replace the original. Quality varies.
[06:27] <josh_> jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.rpm
[06:27] <nickrud> jeff25, the reason you have duplicates is you are seeing ubuntu's package, and the backported package
[06:27] <erika> hi
[06:28] <justin> bigbill52a: that is a pretty shitty password
[06:28] <cafuego> josh_: You can delete that file, it's useless.
[06:28] <cafuego> josh_: Go to the sun website and download the .bin file, NOT the .rpm.
[06:28] <bigbill52a> yeah..but who would think that i would be that dumb...
[06:28] <josh_> That was a bin
[06:28] <IIIEars__> justin - language please. :/
[06:28] <josh_> it made it an RPM
[06:28] <cafuego> bigbill52a: /msg nickrud help set
[06:28] <cafuego> bigbill52a: uh, nickserv,  not nickrud :-)
[06:29] <nickrud> :)
[06:29] <cafuego> josh_: make-jpkg does not makes RPMs.
[06:29] <josh_> It was a bin then to access it, it extracted it into an RPM
[06:29] <garnertr> Evening all...
[06:29] <cafuego> josh_: Yes, it was the .rpm.bin file. not the just .bin file.
[06:29] <cafuego> RPMs are for redhat. not for Ubuntu.
[06:30] <erika> could anyone help me on how to install the correct vido drivers for 8vm533m-rz motherboard? i think it is an integrated proSavage8 ... is there and apt-get for it?
[06:30] <jeramy> RPM = Red hat Package Manager, iirc.
[06:30] <Bluefire> cafuego: you can do alien ont them
[06:30] <josh_> It said "Linux (self-extracting file)"
[06:30] <cafuego> Bluefire: Why would you, if you don't need to?
[06:30] <IIIEars__> "alien" can sometimes translate  RPM packages successfully
[06:30] <jeff25> nickrud: ah
[06:30] <cafuego> josh_: No, the RPM says "Linux RPM in self-extracting file".
[06:30] <jeff25> nickrud: makes sense
[06:31] <bigbill52a> done
[06:31] <bigbill52a> hope i can remember it....
[06:31] <jeramy> josh_: Unfortunately for us, Sun believes that Red Hat == Linux
[06:31] <cafuego> josh_: The one you need is below that, "Linux self-extracting file  (jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin, 15.80 MB)"
[06:31] <josh_> Yeah which is not the one I clicked on
[06:31] <josh_> I clicked on the very bottom one
[06:31] <cafuego> jeramy: No, sun has two files for download. josh_ got the wrong one.
[06:31] <nickrud> jeff25, http://pastebin.com/290397 has a good sources.list to work from
[06:32] <josh_> Just give me the command, I DLed the file...again says .bin
[06:32] <cafuego> josh_: If you got the right file, it would not have extracted to a .RPM
[06:32] <jeff25> nickrud: thanks
[06:32] <josh_> Then give me the command line I need. I have the new file
[06:32] <justin> josh_: ffs, it's the same command as before
[06:32] <jeramy> cafuego: Yeah, I know.  :)  Mostly that comes out in press releases and stuff.  It would be nice if they provided an rpm and a deb
[06:32] <cafuego> josh_: You have jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin?
[06:33] <IIIEars__> cafeugo - I know that using java and web plugins are just asking for trouble but i can't ressist can you walk josh_ through installing it. - for josh_ - :)
[06:33] <jeff25> nickrud: it turns out that marillat was my problem
[06:33] <josh_> yes
[06:33] <nickrud> jeff25, yes
[06:33] <jeff25> nickrud: I commented them all out and the duplicates went away
[06:33] <cafuego> josh_: Ok. Does it live in your home directory?
[06:33] <justin> jeramy: no, it would be nice if they would just give up with the useless java license crap, then no one would have to deal with it
[06:33] <iceman> cant create an account
[06:33] <josh_> Its on my desktop
[06:33] <justin> iceman: what does "cant create an account" mean?
[06:34] <cafuego> josh_: Open a shell, then cd to your Desktop directory.
[06:34] <iceman> crap. must i reintall
[06:34] <nickrud> jeff25, now, to be precice, it wasn't a problem.
[06:34] <jeramy> justin: Very true.
[06:34] <josh_> I just started using Ubuntu today...I have no idea how to do any of that
[06:34] <jeff25> nickrud: ah
[06:34] <cafuego> josh_: On the menuu, chick System Tools -> Terminal
[06:34] <justin> iceman: why the hell would you need to do that?
[06:34] <cafuego> click too
[06:34] <jeff25> nickrud: I guess I see what you mean.  there were more than one package with the same name
[06:35] <lampshade> RAH!
[06:35] <justin> iceman: you obviously screwed up something in your user account and don't know how to fix it. so just create a new user account.
[06:35] <josh_> Ok, then what?
[06:35] <cafuego> josh_: 'cd Desktop'
[06:35] <bigfoot> bob2, hi theer.
[06:35] <iceman> to much delay in keyboard
[06:35] <bigfoot> there.
[06:35] <bzbb> what's the best method to install Radeon Drivers?
[06:35] <josh_> ok, then
[06:35] <nickrud> jeff25, having more than one package to choose from gives you versatility, but you must judge the quality of the non-ubuntu packages
[06:35] <cafuego> josh_: 'ls -l jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin'
[06:35] <cafuego> josh_: Does that list the file?
[06:36] <josh_> ls: jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin: No such file or directory
[06:36] <iceman> tried to make new used. crashd and backto login screen
[06:36] <cafuego> josh_: 'ls -l jre*'
[06:36] <bigfoot> hi everyone. can someone please help me, a newbie?
[06:36] <josh_> ok then what?
[06:36] <Linux_Man> bigfoot: what ?
[06:36] <cafuego> josh_: What does that show?
[06:36] <justin> iceman: tried how
[06:36] <josh_> Lots of stuff
[06:37] <iceman> can type got to hold keys long time
[06:37] <cafuego> josh_: Such as?
[06:37] <erika> could anyone help me, please, on how to install the correct vido drivers for 8vm533m-rz motherboard? i think it is an integrated proSavage8 ... is there and apt-get for it?
[06:37] <bigfoot> Linux_Man, it's about getting gmailfs working.
[06:37] <iceman> kde user manager
[06:37] <josh_> bin, changes, copyright, i386, javaws and more
[06:37] <Linux_Man> bigfoot: no can do there
[06:37] <justin> don't use the kde user manager
[06:37] <cafuego> josh_: Did you try to run the .bin file at all after downlaoding it?
[06:37] <justin> just run adduser
[06:37] <iceman> brb
[06:37] <josh_> no
[06:38] <thoreauputic> cafuego: I have a feeling he's in the wrong dir
[06:38] <cafuego> thoreauputic: Indeed.
[06:38] <josh_> How so? My desktop is my desktop
[06:38] <cafuego> josh_: 'sudo find / -name jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin' and wait until that finishes.
[06:38] <jeramy> josh_: type pwd
[06:38] <thoreauputic> cafuego: your patience is exemplary :)
[06:38] <cafuego> josh_: Well, the file you say you downloaded doesn't exist on your desktop, apparently.
[06:39] <justin> cafuego: why would you have him do that? you can just right click the file and go to the properties
[06:39] <josh_> I'm looking at it right now
[06:39] <bzbb> Do I just use alien on the .rpm for Xorg from th ATI site?
[06:39] <cafuego> thoreauputic: Chainsmoking here...
[06:39] <thoreauputic> hehe
[06:39] <jeramy> At the prompt it says "josh@linux:~/Desktop$   ??
[06:39] <josh_> No
[06:39] <jeramy> What does it say?
[06:39] <josh_> josh@WhiteRaven:~/Desktop$
[06:39] <cafuego> bzbb: I'm pretty sure the fglrx driver is prepackaged in the 'restricted' repository.
[06:39] <justin> bzbb: no, you install the packages that you already have for the fglrx drivers
[06:39] <jeramy> oh ok.  :)
[06:39] <thoreauputic> haha
[06:39] <jeramy> Do you see the .bin file on your desktop?
[06:39] <thoreauputic> sorry
[06:40] <josh_> Yes
[06:40] <jeramy> like, the icon?
[06:40] <jeramy> Ok.
[06:40] <josh_> yes
[06:40] <cafuego> josh_: 'ls *bin'
[06:40] <jeramy> So if you just do ls, does it show up?
[06:40] <cafuego> josh_: Does that list it?
[06:40] <josh_> its an icon with a browish diamond and says SH
[06:40] <josh_> no it just asked for the password then went back to josh@WhiteRaven:~/Desktop$
[06:40] <cafuego> josh_:  'ls *bin' asked for a password?
[06:41] <josh_> no the last thing you asked
[06:41] <josh_> and yes it lists the file
[06:41] <cafuego> josh_: Yeah. type 'ls *bin' for me.
[06:41] <cafuego> josh_: Can you paste the filename here?
[06:41] <Linux_Man> Wohooo i got wine to un ARES
[06:41] <jeramy> perfect.  So you see it.
[06:41] <josh_> it shows jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.bin
[06:41] <cafuego> josh_: Select it with the mouse, then middle-click in IRC.
[06:42] <cafuego> josh_: Ok. So you have the 02 version, not the 03 version.
[06:42] <holycow> which package contains shareutils?
[06:42] <cafuego> it would be handy to tell me next time ;-)
[06:42] <justin> cafuego: he needs to learn the concept of tab completion
[06:42] <holycow> oh nm, typ
[06:42] <cafuego> josh_: Run 'fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.bin'
[06:42] <justin> cafuego: you realize he is sitting there typing out every _ ?
[06:42] <holycow> typo
[06:42] <josh_> Thats the one java has on their site
[06:42] <cafuego> josh_: Thety have a newer one, I'
[06:42] <jeramy> josh_: and when you get to the jre, just press tab and it'll fill in the rest.
[06:43] <cafuego> m looking at their site now. But for now, lets' work with the 02.
[06:43] <josh_> um....errors...
[06:43] <jeramy> What's the error?
[06:43] <cafuego> josh_: What errors?
[06:43] <raz> Uninstalled MPlayer but it is still under 'Sound & Video', how can I remove it from there?
[06:43] <josh_> says this like 5 times in a row
[06:43] <josh_> sh: gcc: command not found
[06:43] <josh_> dpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)
[06:43] <jeramy> ah.
[06:44] <cafuego> josh_: Ok, not a problem. 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[06:44] <jeramy> Type in "sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[06:44] <cafuego> @lose jeramy
[06:44] <ubotu> cafuego: I haven't a clue
[06:44] <jeramy> Yeah, cafuego you beat me to it.  :)
[06:44] <jeramy> :P
[06:44] <josh_> well it asks if this is correct....do I press y or n?
[06:44] <cafuego> ubotu: you're useless
[06:44] <IIIEars__> iceman - helpful tips on working with passwords. 2/3 of the way down the page  http://ubuntuguide.org/
[06:44] <cafuego> josh_: 'y'
[06:45] <josh_> Um....it put down the license terms and stuff....
[06:45] <cafuego> josh_: Yes, you need to agree to those.
[06:45] <cafuego> josh_: Just follow the instructions.
[06:46] <josh_> and now its inflating like 500 million files...
[06:46] <cafuego> josh_: Yes, all good.
[06:46] <josh_> but i couldnt type what you said to
[06:46] <cafuego> josh_: That's OK. Looks like that wasn't necessary.
[06:46] <josh_> and now it says its creating Creating jre1.5.0_02/lib/rt.jar
[06:46] <josh_> kind of sitting there for a bit...
[06:47] <iceman> crap.
[06:47] <cafuego> josh_: yeah, that would be quicker on a faster cpu.
[06:47] <josh_> Um...some errors came up...
[06:47] <paulproteus> Is anyone around here in Rochester, NY?
[06:47] <cafuego> josh_: errors?
[06:47] <josh_> chmod: cannot access `/etc/.java/.systemPrefs/.system.lock': No such file or directory
[06:47] <justin> I've been to Rochester, does that count? :-P
[06:47] <iceman> cant fix this. typerate to low
[06:47] <paulproteus> justin: Kinda. ;)
[06:47] <cafuego> josh_: Yeah, just ignore 'em
[06:47] <justin> iceman: make. a. new. user. account.
[06:48] <raz> Uninstalled Mplayer, but it's 'shortcut' is still present under Apps->Sound & Video.. how do i take I delete it from there?
[06:48] <IIIEars__> ubotu - what was your question?
[06:48] <ubotu> IIIEars__: I give up, what is it?
[06:48] <josh_> Ok it says Create debian package: and has a list
[06:48] <cafuego> IIIEars__: uBOTu
[06:48] <iceman> tried in gnome. x cant start it
[06:48] <cafuego> josh_: Cool.
[06:48] <IIIEars__> cafuego - ah okay.
[06:49] <IIIEars__> a bot would be nice here.
[06:49] <Madpilot> IIIEars: run whois on ubotu, man. chat bot?
[06:49] <josh_> Is it supposed to do anything after that?
[06:49] <vince_> hello all. has someone been successful in using the framebuffer and a splash image at boot time (like in gentoo)?
[06:49] <iceman> one app, it resets keyboard delay
[06:49] <cafuego> josh_: If you're back at the shell prompt, it's done and there will now be a .deb file there.
[06:49] <Davey> OK, I have it burned. bbs I hope :)
[06:49] <Madpilot> ubotu: what colour are you?
[06:49] <ubotu> Madpilot: what are you talking about?
[06:49] <Madpilot> :)
[06:49] <josh_> Well I'm getting the...sh: gcc: command not found
[06:49] <josh_> dpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)
[06:49] <cafuego> josh_: 'ls *deb' will list it.
[06:50] <iceman> sec
[06:50] <cafuego> josh_: Ok, not done yet then
[06:50] <bzbb> ok, after I install fglrx, how do I set it up?
[06:51] <cafuego> bzbb: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:51] <IIIEars__> Good Night! - :)
[06:51] <bzbb> thanks
[06:51] <Amaranth> Davey: any luck?
[06:51] <Madpilot> ubotu: are you a bot?
[06:51] <ubotu> Madpilot: Wish i knew
[06:51] <cafuego> ubotu: what are you
[06:51] <ubotu> I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot>
[06:51] <Amaranth> No bots.
[06:51] <raz> How do you edit/delete things from the 'Applitcations' menu?
[06:51] <cafuego> Amaranth: Eh, why did you do that?
[06:52] <lilmdk> has anyone had any trouble running nicotine on hoary ?
[06:52] <Amaranth> raz: Use smeg. It's on the forums.
[06:52] <cafuego> Amaranth: ubotu is here to provide package info.
[06:52] <Amaranth> cafuego: You didn't ask.
[06:52] <cafuego> Amaranth: Actually, I did.
[06:52] <cafuego> Amaranth: /msg bob2 did cafuego ask about the bot?
[06:52] <Amaranth> cafuego: Who gave you permission to bring in a bot that floods the channel?
[06:52] <josh_> How do I know when its done?
[06:52] <Madpilot> so, what *is* a blootbot?  <-- IRC noob here...
[06:52] <Amaranth> Make it not say anything in the channel and be able to be used from a PM.
[06:53] <cafuego> Amaranth: The bot doesn't flood the channel, it responds ONLY when addressed directly.
[06:53] <cafuego> Amaranth: Well, that's easy enough.
[06:53] <Amaranth> Then it doesn't matter if it's +q. :P
[06:53] <ra21vi> hi, I am back...
[06:53] <Amaranth> cafuego: I'll talk to bob2 about it.
[06:54] <justin> um, well if it is +q, then it CANT respond when addressed directly
[06:54] <ra21vi> tell me how to change the resolution to 800x600,
[06:54] <iceman> can start new account
[06:54] <josh_> cafuego: how do I know when its done
[06:54] <ra21vi> its default to 640x480 and gnome-display-properties only showing this option
[06:54] <crimsun> justin: +q doesn't affect queries.
[06:54] <ra21vi> anyone please
[06:54] <justin> it also makes things like ~+info foo-package useless
[06:55] <hajuu> hey
[06:55] <cafuego> josh_: It's done where you're back at the shell prompt.
[06:55] <hajuu> I recently installed Ubuntu.. (last night) and im having some problems with my dialup
[06:55] <josh_> which I am
[06:55] <Aegir`> hajuu, whats the problem?
[06:56] <Amaranth> justin: When I talk to bob2 we'll decide whether or not it should be able to do that.
[06:56] <Yoshimitsu> when i start mplayer i get this error any idea why. and also when i try to play something through the Mplayer GUI it crashes.. Failed to open /home/acidwolf/<
[06:56] <Madpilot> ra21vi: did you start Ubuntu w/ the monitor turned off?
[06:56] <cafuego> it ignores any non-privmsg stuff now.
[06:56] <cafuego> josh_: Ok, then it's finished. 'ls *deb'
[06:57] <hajuu> The problem is that its going rediculously slow... I havent configured my modem at all.. I just autodetected it because I couldnt actually find any modem config
[06:57] <josh_> cafuego:  ok then what?
[06:57] <cafuego> josh_: What file did that list?
[06:57] <nickrud> ra21vi, please do grep Default /var/log/Xorg.0.log > ~/resolutions, and paste that on pastebin.com
[06:57] <josh_> cafuego: sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update02_i386.deb
[06:57] <iceman> slow keys function ... was the problem
[06:57] <cafuego> josh_: 'sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update02_i386.deb'
[06:57] <iceman> in accessibility ...
[06:58] <thoreauputic> hajuu: I suggest you run ` sudo pppconfig` and then use the pon and poff commands (I had a similar problem)
[06:58] <josh_> cafuego: its back at the prompt again
[06:58] <thoreauputic> hajuu: pppconfig will ask the relevant questions
[06:58] <hajuu> oh nice
[06:58] <hajuu> thanks
[06:58] <cafuego> josh_: Did it print any errors?
[06:59] <cafuego> josh_: Or just info?
[06:59] <josh_> cafuego: some info like unpacking and Setting up
[06:59] <cafuego> josh_: Good. type 'java -version'
[06:59] <hajuu> For a dialup connection.. do I want none for dns.. static.. or dynamic?
[06:59] <hajuu> none right?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> hajuu: if you find /dev/modem doesn't work, try /dev/ttyS0 or /dev/ttyS1
[07:00] <josh_> java version "1.4.2"
[07:00] <hajuu> yeah I am using /dev/ttyS0 .. that was my first try hehehe
[07:00] <cafuego> josh_: Ha. You have an older java version installed that's overriding the new one.
[07:00] <josh_> cafuego: but i didn't have one before
[07:00] <cafuego> josh_: yes, you did.
[07:01] <josh_> cafuego: then why did my browser state I didn't?
[07:01] <Davey|Work> well that was somewhat aborted :(
[07:01] <gautham> hi folks
[07:01] <cafuego> josh_: Because the one you just installed does _not_ print that notice.
[07:01] <nickrud> ra21vi, do you need help with that?
[07:01] <hitchhiker> hi my lord
[07:01] <Davey|Work> CarlK_: guess what...
[07:01] <josh_> cafuego: so then what?
[07:01] <dabaSlon> yoyoyo:)
[07:01] <cafuego> josh_: Your browser needs a java plugin as well as java. probably the other version didn't install a plugin.
[07:01] <dabaSlon> heh
[07:02] <josh_> cafuego: so where do I get a plugin?
[07:02] <Davey|Work> cafuego: according to both Nero in winXP on my laptop and to the machine at startup, Ubuntu didn't burn
[07:02] <gautham> i cant change my screen resolution to 800*600
[07:02] <gautham> what shu i do?
[07:02] <cafuego> josh_: The new package installed one.
[07:02] <Davey|Work> but I can see in the coloration on the disk it did :/
[07:02] <cafuego> josh_: So now you need to get rid of the old one.
[07:02] <gautham> how to change screen reolution?
[07:03] <gautham> to 800*600?
[07:03] <cafuego> josh_: As to how to do that, it depends on how you installed it.
[07:03] <josh_> cafuego: well then my browser will agree to disagree
[07:03] <hitchhiker> ctl art -
[07:03] <josh_> cafuego: it still says I am missing the plugin
[07:03] <hitchhiker> s/art/alt/
[07:03] <nickrud> gautham, what kind of video card do you have
[07:03] <Davey> weird... my desktop reads the fucking CD just fine :/
[07:03] <Madpilot> josh_: which browser?
[07:04] <hajuu> ok ive run pppconfig now
[07:04] <josh_> cafuego: Firefox and Konqueror
[07:04] <hajuu> How do I use that connection I just setup?
[07:04] <Davey> this is ridiculous
[07:04] <Davey> why would a CD drive not read a disk?!
[07:04] <hitchhiker> firefox is goood ^_^
[07:04] <gautham> Madpilot, i cant change my screen rsol. can u help?
[07:04] <thoreauputic> hajuu: assuming you didn't specify a provider, just type "pon" in a terminal
[07:05] <hajuu> /usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option '/dev/modem'
[07:05] <dr_willis> Davey,  your laptop wont read a cd that your desktop will? or is this a dvd disk? how old is the laptop?
[07:05] <Madpilot> gautham: maybe. keep in mind I've only been using Linux ten days, tho!
[07:05] <hajuu> when I run pon
[07:05] <hitchhiker> Madpilot<]   hehe
[07:05] <thoreauputic> hajuu: if you did specify, then type "pon <providername>"
[07:05] <hitchhiker> Madpilot<]   me too
[07:06] <thoreauputic> hajuu: if it doesn't work, check that you are a member of the dialout and dip groups
[07:06] <Davey> dr_willis: laptop is about 15 months old
[07:06] <josh_> cafuego: firefox says...and I quote..."Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page."
[07:06] <Davey> dr_willis: has a CD-RW/DVD combined drive
[07:06] <gautham> hajuu, help needed for screen resolution
[07:06] <Aegir`> Davey, if it is not reading on boot up, try and get to the boot source selector menu. On my Acer its F12 and brings up Network boot, Cdrom, Floppy (Even though it doesnt have one) and HD
[07:06] <gautham> anybody in here
[07:06] <Aegir`> Thats usually the best solution.  Wipe the CDRW and try again ;)
[07:07] <nickrud> gautham, do you know what kind of video card you have?
[07:07] <nickrud> if not, we'll show you how to find out
[07:07] <gautham> nickrud, yes intel i810 device
[07:08] <nickrud> ah, I've done that one :)
[07:08] <_jeramy> Can someone with wireless post a couple of things here for me?
[07:08] <gautham> nickrud, pls tell me
[07:08] <hitchhiker> gautham<  hehe
[07:08] <josh_> cafuego: I know the program its telling me to get. Java runtime environment
[07:08] <nickrud> ok, we're gonna do 3 things: set up the memory, configure the monitor, and set the screen resolutions
[07:08] <Davey> Aegir`: but windows on the machine it was burned on can see it
[07:08] <gautham> nickrud, ok go ahead
[07:08] <raz> Could anyone give me a hand w/ SMEG ?
[07:09] <hitchhiker> josh_<  intall jre
[07:09] <Aegir`> Davey, Hmmm. Dont know really.
[07:09] <nickrud> in a terminal, do cd /etc/X11
[07:09] <nickrud> then, sudo nano xorg.conf
[07:09] <thoreauputic> hitchhiker: that's what he's ben trying to do for the last hour
[07:09] <cafuego> josh_: You just installed jre 1.5.02
[07:10] <hitchhiker> josh_<  why?
[07:10] <cafuego> hitchhiker: he did. he's got an old (non-pakaged?) 1.4.2 interfering with it.
[07:10] <josh_> cafuego: install: too few argumentsTry `install --help' for more information.
[07:10] <gautham> nickrud, yes done
[07:10] <hitchhiker> jre 1.4.2 is ok. I am sure. hehe
[07:10] <cafuego> hitchhiker: No, because hios 1.4.2 install has no mozilla plugin.
[07:10] <josh_> cafuego: says I dont have it. Any ideas on that?
[07:11] <gautham> nickrud, im in the editor
[07:11] <hitchhiker> intasll jre...
[07:11] <gautham> nickrud, what next?
[07:11] <nickrud> ok, scroll down till you get to i810 under device
[07:11] <hitchhiker> ok ok
[07:11] <gautham> nickrud, got it
[07:11] <cafuego> josh_: run 'which java'
[07:11] <josh_> cafuego: it had the button to click on to install the plugin needed and it comes up with the program that clearly says "Java Runtime Environment"
[07:11] <thoreauputic> hitchhiker: leave it to cafuego: you are jumping in in the middle
[07:11] <hitchhiker> install jre 1.4.2_0x and copy files
[07:12] <cafuego> hitchhiker: He has jre 1.5.0 update 02 installed already
[07:12] <thoreauputic> hitchhiker: umm... silence is golden
[07:12] <josh_> cafuego: /usr/bin/java
[07:12] <hitchhiker> 1.5.0 sucks
[07:12] <Davey> man, is ubuntuforums.com working?
[07:12] <gautham> nickrud,  it sayd i810 device.................PCI bus ID 0:2:0
[07:12] <cafuego> hitchhiker: Ok, YOU help him then.
[07:12] <cafuego> josh_: hitchhiker is going to help you fix the problem now.
[07:12] <hitchhiker> 1.4.2_08 sucks
[07:13] <hitchhiker> 1.4.2_04 is ok
[07:13] <josh_> cafuego: what? no
[07:13] <Davey> .org, whatever
[07:13] <gautham> nickrud, what next?
[07:13] <nickrud> create a line under the line that has i810 in it
[07:13] <hitchhiker> ^_^
[07:13] <raz> Could anyone give me a hand w/ SMEG ?
[07:13] <josh_> cafuego: I'm not doing that all over again because he doesn't like the program version
[07:13] <gautham> nickrud, done
[07:13] <nickrud> hitchhiker, I've done this twice, if you have help
[07:14] <cafuego> josh_: Ok then. '/usr/bin/java -version'
[07:14] <hitchhiker> I just do this in my firefox... it works
[07:14] <hitchhiker> java ok ^_^
[07:14] <hitchhiker> flash ok ^_^
[07:14] <josh_> cafuego: java version "1.4.2"
[07:14] <nickrud> ok, type "Options" "VideoRam" 32768
[07:14] <thoreauputic> hitchhiker: not to be rude, but please but out: you are just complicating the situation
[07:15] <ra21vi> do anybody know how to change the resolution>
[07:15] <hitchhiker> ox players ok ^_^
[07:15] <ra21vi> screen resolution
[07:15] <cafuego> josh_: 'ls -l /usr/bin/java'
[07:15] <gautham> nickrud, i shud write type also?
[07:15] <user915> I hate being a newbie.
[07:15] <hitchhiker> auto lunch ok ...
[07:15] <nickrud> gautham, :)
[07:15] <gautham> nickrud, dude bear with me im a newbied
[07:15] <josh_> cafuego: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 22 2005-05-27 21:58 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java
[07:16] <nickrud> no problem, it's only an editor, and we can always get back to where we started
[07:16] <cafuego> josh_: 'ls -l /etc/aternatives/java'
[07:16] <Davey> is there a netinstall for ubuntu?
[07:16] <hajuu> Ok...
[07:16] <hajuu> So uhm
[07:16] <josh_> cafuego: ls: /etc/aternatives/java: No such file or directory
[07:17] <hajuu> I got that console dialer working
[07:17] <hajuu> pon
[07:17] <hajuu> But
[07:17] <cafuego> josh_: typo, you forgot an 'l'
[07:17] <nickrud> gautham, scroll down to where you see generic monitor
[07:17] <hajuu> no programs in my gui can access it
[07:17] <hajuu> Why might that be?
[07:17] <nickrud> gautham, do you have the book for your monitor?
[07:17] <segphault> ok, I've pretty much ascertained that LIRC doesn't work with USB devices on Ubuntu. Anybody out there who has been able to do it?
[07:17] <cafuego> Davey: You can use the debian netinst and edit sources.list halfway through ;-)
[07:17] <hajuu> infact.. NOTHING can access it
[07:17] <hajuu> Full stop
[07:17] <thoreauputic> hajuu: you can make a launcher for the command
[07:17] <Davey> cafuego....
[07:18] <hajuu> thoreauputic, It seems that the connection is dead
[07:18] <nickrud> cafuego, :)
[07:18] <hajuu> I cant even ping
[07:18] <gautham> nickrud, i finished typing
[07:18] <josh_> cafuego: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 30 2005-05-27 23:58 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[07:18] <thoreauputic> hajuu: ah, i see
[07:18] <gautham> nickrud, i dont have
[07:18] <Davey> I'm about to just say "Fuck linux", it shouldn't take me 8hrs to find an OS to install, nevermind install it :/
[07:18] <cafuego> Davey: Don't attempt that if you're not an advanced user, though.
[07:18] <gautham> nickrud, but i knw my monitor name
[07:18] <thoreauputic> hajuu: does it dial?
[07:18] <hajuu> yeah and it maintains a connection
[07:18] <Davey> cafuego: oh, I'm quite profecient in linux, I'm just lazy ;)
[07:18] <nickrud> gautham, give me the manufacturer and exact model
[07:18] <hajuu> I can see by the lights on my modem
[07:18] <cafuego> Davey: it's not Linux fault your burner or cd is dumb. it works fine for millions of others.
[07:19] <hajuu> but ifconfig shows nothing is being transfered
[07:19] <thoreauputic> hajuu: but you can't ping anything?
[07:19] <cafuego> josh_: 'dpkg -S /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java'
[07:19] <hajuu> thoreauputic, exactly.
[07:19] <thoreauputic> hajuu: do you have nameservers in your /etc/resolv.conf file?
[07:19] <josh_> cafuego: dpkg: /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java not found.
[07:19] <gautham> nickrud, SAMSUNG syncmaster
[07:20] <cafuego> josh_: arrgh. 'ls -l /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java'
[07:20] <gautham> nickrud, thats all i knw
[07:20] <Davey> cafuego: sure it is :P
[07:20] <nickrud> gautham, you'll need to look at the back
[07:20] <user915> Anyone installed the mplayer plugin for FireFox?
[07:20] <hajuu> yeah I have two which are like: nameserver <ip>
[07:20] <josh_> cafuego: -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 2826 2005-04-03 10:39 /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[07:20] <nickrud> gautham, syncmaster something
[07:20] <raz> ubuntuforums.org == down?
[07:20] <dr_willis> user915,  im useing it - it seems to work fine for me.
[07:20] <cafuego> josh_: Ok. Tht file isn't known to the package system. Do you have any idea how it got onto your system?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> hajuu: can you ping IPs ? like say, "ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:21] <josh_> cafuego: um...what?
[07:21] <user915> It's because I'm trying to configure the mplayer plugin but it's giving me this error about c++ not being able to create something.
[07:21] <joeinspirit> Recommendations on Ram to Swap size ratio?
[07:21] <bigern|fswebhost> i installed webmin and ii wont let me login using my username and password
[07:21] <hajuu> I didnt even try.. I just tried to ping google.
[07:21] <cafuego> josh_: Do you know how '/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java' got onto your system?
[07:21] <bigern|fswebhost> what am i missing
[07:21] <hajuu> I'll be back shortly
[07:21] <hajuu> gonna try that
[07:21] <gautham> nickrud, 793DF
[07:21] <josh_> cafuego: no, what is it?
[07:21] <gautham> nickrud, 793DF
[07:21] <nickrud> gautham, ok, wait
[07:22] <cafuego> josh_: it's something that shouldn't really be there.
[07:22] <thoreauputic> hajuu: that's the google IP{ (or one of them) If you can ping IPs and not names like google.com, you have a DNS problem
[07:22] <james__> Does using LVM (linux volume management) affect hard drive performance, at all?
[07:22] <josh_> cafuego: well beyond installing the smart updates, and two games and Konqueror I haven't installed anything
[07:22] <elric> are audigy sound devices supported by Ubuntu? i get Synth devices: NOT ENABLED in my sound config
[07:22] <wolfmanjake> joeinspirit: double the swap that you have ram
[07:22] <cafuego> josh_: What did it run before you installed Ubuntu?
[07:23] <josh_> cafuego: SuSE 9.2
[07:23] <hitchhiker> ...
[07:23] <cafuego> josh_: Did you rease the disk before reinstalling?
[07:23] <maxy_noob> crimsun, I figured it out, with no little help from you
[07:23] <cafuego> erase even
[07:23] <maxy_noob> my home network lives!!!!
[07:23] <josh_> cafuego: yes
[07:23] <maxy_noob> woohooo
[07:23] <nickrud> gautham, do you have a line inside section monitor that starts with HorizSync
[07:23] <cafuego> josh_: Ghhrm.
[07:23] <gautham> nickrud, just a sec
[07:24] <cafuego> josh_: ok, we'll use a hammer then. 'sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java /etc/alternatives/java'
[07:24] <josh_> cafuego: I changed around all the sized for the boot and swap so I had to erase them all and repartition
[07:24] <gautham> nickrud, nope it says only Syncmaster
[07:24] <crimsun> maxy_noob: excellent.
[07:24] <gautham> nickrud, it says identifier:syncmaster
[07:25] <nickrud> gautham, I saw it
[07:25] <joeinspirit> Question: Is a swap partition 3 times the size of ram really neccessary?
[07:25] <josh_> cafuego: ok its back at the prompt
[07:25] <thoreauputic> joeinspirit: not usually
[07:25] <cafuego> josh_: 'java -version'
[07:25] <thoreauputic> joeinspirit: how much RAM do you have?
[07:25] <joeinspirit> 2 gig
[07:25] <paulproteus> (Heh.)
[07:25] <nickrud> gautham, ok, create a new line under DPMS
[07:25] <cafuego> joeinspirit: I'd stick to 1GB swap max under that.
[07:25] <gautham> nickrud, yes tell me pls
[07:26] <josh_> cafuego: java version "1.5.0_02"
[07:26] <thoreauputic> joeinspirit: heh- in that case 500MB or so should be more than ample
[07:26] <nickrud>  HorizSync 28-71
[07:26] <cafuego> josh_: good.
[07:26] <nickrud> gautham, see that? type it on the new line
[07:26] <joeinspirit> thoreauputic I was reading that it was good to always have plenty of swap
[07:26] <maxy_noob> crimsun, my guess is that I didn't have the DNS coordinates entered.
[07:26] <josh_> cafuego: ok, so then what?
[07:26] <gautham> nickrud, yes i will
[07:26] <cmatheson> i'm trying to compile my kernel, but i get this error: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/../../../crt1.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized
[07:26] <cafuego> josh_: 'cd ~/.mozilla/plugins'
[07:27] <thoreauputic> joeinspirit: well, it depends what you are doing, but certainly a gig should be fine
[07:27] <cafuego> You don't want to find your system using 2GB of swap...
[07:27] <joeinspirit> thoreauputic ok, Just want to make sure I have enought suspend to disk, its a notebook
[07:27] <josh_> cafuego: bash: cd: /home/josh/.mozilla/plugins: No such file or directory
[07:27] <thoreauputic> joeinspirit: you have RAM coming out of your ears anyway ;)
[07:27] <cafuego> josh_: Ah ok, then you'll need 2Gb swap minimum
[07:27] <gautham> nickrud, done with it :)
[07:27] <nickrud> gautham, create another new line
[07:28] <josh_> cafuego: what?
[07:28] <gautham> nickrud, yes
[07:28] <cafuego> josh_: ls there a .firefox directory in your homedir?
[07:28] <cafuego> josh_: never mind, that was for joeinspirit
[07:28] <thoreauputic> joeinspirit: I think cafuego's remark was for you, not josh_
[07:28] <gautham> nickrud, go on
[07:28] <josh_> cafuego: no
[07:28] <joeinspirit> k
[07:28] <nickrud>  VertRefresh 50-160
[07:28] <nickrud> gautham, type that
[07:28] <cafuego> joeinspirit: The kernel wants enough space on swap (s2d) to fit ALL your ram.
[07:29] <cafuego> joeinspirit: Saving 2GB of data to swap and restoring it after resume will take for-bloody-ever though.
[07:29] <josh_> cafuego: its under mozilla
[07:29] <gautham> nickrud, done
[07:29] <cafuego> josh_: Is there a directory called 'plugins' ?
[07:29] <helios> hello
[07:29] <nickrud> gautham, now, scroll down till you see section screen
[07:29] <hitchhiker> josh_<  in ~/.mozilla
[07:29] <josh_> cafuego: no
[07:29] <joeinspirit> cafuego ok, ya.  Still no.. Can't ping IP's.. Cant ping URL's... No GUI program can access the connection...
[07:31] <Davey|Work> anyone know how long it might take to flash a drive? How long before I decide it crashed? :)
[07:31] <Cybermagellan> If anyone wants free hosting please feel free to visit http://hosting.cybermagellan.com
[07:31] <josh_> cafuego: just cache, chrome, extensions, search
[07:31] <jeff25> how difficult is it to get wireless working on a laptop PCMCIA card?
[07:31] <helios> would anyone have free time to help me with my home network?
[07:31] <thoreauputic> josh_: your plugins dir should be under .mozilla ( .mozilla/plugins/
[07:31] <gautham> nickrud, i cudnt quite get u
[07:31] <cafuego> josh_: Ok. 'ln -sf /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins'
[07:32] <hitchhiker> cafuego<  hehe that's too old...
[07:32] <nickrud> gautham, what's the hightest and lowest resolutions you see?
[07:32] <hajuu> any more ideas? heh
[07:32] <cafuego> josh_: Oh, put 'sudo' in front of that
[07:32] <nickrud> gautham, different question :)
[07:32] <liable> jeff25: shouldn't be a prob if its supported
[07:32] <josh_> cafuego: ok its back to the prompt
[07:32] <gautham> nickrud, there r so many resolutions like 1280*1024 and 640*480
[07:32] <tbasten> cafuego, how do i do that?
[07:33] <nickrud> gautham, good, we're almost done
[07:33] <thoreauputic> hajuu: try reconfiguring with pppconfig and choosing "dynamic"
[07:33] <cafuego> josh_: Try your web browser for java support
[07:33] <gautham> nickrud, it also shows 800*600
[07:33] <nickrud> good
[07:33] <cafuego> tbasten: it's non-trivial.
[07:33] <gautham> nickrud, what next?
[07:33] <gautham> nickrud, :)
[07:33] <hajuu> Could it also be my Authentication method? should that be set to PAP?
[07:33] <nickrud> now, press control-x and when it asks you to save, say yes
[07:33] <cafuego> tbasten: You're probably better of simply encrypting your secure data with gnupg.
[07:33] <josh_> cafuego: says I need java
[07:33] <cafuego> josh_: arrrgggghhh
[07:34] <cafuego> josh_: Which browser are you using?
[07:34] <thoreauputic> hajuu: hajuu possible - pap should work with most ISPs
[07:34] <josh_> cafuego: firefox
[07:34] <hajuu> should I disable defaultroute?
[07:34] <thoreauputic> hajuu: no I don't think so
[07:34] <hajuu> mmkay
[07:35] <gautham> nickrud, i said ctrl-x and said Y and pressed enter,it returned to root mode now
[07:35] <josh_> cafuego: yeah...I feel the same way
[07:35] <thoreauputic> hajuu: if you have a normal dialup you should leave most of the defaults alone
[07:35] <gautham> nickrud,  correct?
[07:35] <raz> Could anyone give me a hand w/ SMEG ?
[07:35] <hajuu> when it asks me for the ip of my primary nameserver, what should I put in?
[07:35] <nickrud> gautham, you're in a root terminal?
[07:35] <thoreauputic> hajuu: yes, put it in
[07:35] <gautham> nickrud, yes
[07:35] <Yoshimitsu> i got mplayer installed and the gui starts and it looks like its running fine however when i try to play anything with it it crashes and at startup it gives me this error Failed to open /home/acidwolf< anyone have any ideas what might need tweaking
[07:35] <helios> sorry for asking again: is there anyone who has free time to help me with my home network?
[07:35] <nickrud> gautham, close it, and open a regular one
[07:35] <thoreauputic> hajuu: and add the second one as well if you have it
[07:35] <hajuu> thoreauputic, I dont know what it is....
[07:35] <gautham> nickrud, ok
[07:36] <tbasten> cafuego, and how do i encryth with gnupg
[07:36] <hajuu> I dont know what either of them are.. my ISP never told me
[07:36] <gautham> nickrud, done
[07:36] <josh_> cafuego: Ubuntu makes me want to kill it...but SuSE doesn't allow lefthanded people to use their OS it seems, and they also are not compatible with my printer or my audio
[07:36] <cafuego> tbasten: 'man gnupg'
[07:36] <nickrud> gautham, now type gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:36] <tbasten> i have, not really helpful
[07:36] <thoreauputic> hajuu: ask your ISP
[07:36] <mr> Any Ubuntu support available here?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> hajuu: they should be able to tell you your nameservers
[07:36] <nickrud> gautham, I want you to paste that to http://pastebin.com, and give me the link so I can look at it.
[07:37] <cafuego> josh_: There is something weird going on your your machine. It has stuff on it that shouldn't be there, as far as I can tell.
[07:37] <nickrud> gautham, ok?
[07:37] <cafuego> josh_: java in fiorefox works fine on my box, which essentally has the same config.
[07:37] <josh_> cafuego: you're telling me, Linux seems to make my computer posessed.
[07:37] <gautham> nick
[07:37] <gautham> nickrud, ok
[07:37] <hajuu> ah yes.. found it
[07:37] <josh_> cafuego: but Windows doesn't allow me to use java rooms or IRC
[07:38] <mr> Has anyone made https work ?
[07:38] <thoreauputic> hajuu: you aren't behind a NAT or firewall, are you?
[07:38] <hajuu> I dont.. belive so
[07:38] <josh_> -shakes a fist at his ZoneAlarm firewall for blocking everything even things he wants to use-
[07:39] <thoreauputic> hajuu: you would probably know, if you were :)
[07:39] <hajuu> yeah... all ports seem available when I dial through the gui
[07:39] <gautham> nickrud, i pasted it and sent it
[07:39] <nickrud> gautham, so, tell me the link ;)
[07:39] <hajuu> One more thing
[07:40] <subxero> I managed to compile the lirc_serial module for LIRC. That's as far as I can get. When I "sudo modprobe lirc_serial" it gives me "Segmentation fault." I don't have a clue what to do now. Could someone please help me?
[07:40] <hajuu> I take it that with pppconfig, when I edit my connection, that every time I reopen pppconfig it shows my password as "replace_with_password" to hide my password, or what? coz if it isnt.. then it isnt saving it for some reason
[07:40] <gautham> nickrud, http://pastebin.com/291132
[07:41] <liable> helios: just ask, someone will help if they can
[07:41] <gautham> nickrud, correct?
[07:41] <thoreauputic> hajuu: I don't follow
[07:42] <gautham> nickrud, any problem?
[07:42] <nickrud> gautham, I told you one wrong thing: where you put "Options" "VideoRam", we need to remove the "'s around Options :)
[07:42] <Tezkah> I managed to mess up my laptop!
[07:42] <nickrud> so, close gedit
[07:42] <Tezkah> by forgetting to plug it in
[07:42] <Tezkah> leaving it
[07:42] <qiqo> guys
[07:42] <thoreauputic> hajuu: possibly you are failing to save the config before exiting pppconfig
[07:42] <Tezkah> and not having any power options enabled
[07:42] <qiqo> hello
[07:42] <hajuu> thoreauputic, Every time I save and exit pppconfig, and reopen and  look at a connection ive created, the password box always shows "replace_with_password"... Is that just to hide my password from any potential snoops, or is it not saving my password?
[07:42] <hajuu> No, I definately save it.
[07:42] <gautham> nickrud, what to do?
[07:42] <qiqo> is mysqladmin compatible with ubuntu?
[07:43] <nickrud> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:43] <gautham> nickrud, in root?
[07:43] <thoreauputic> hajuu: I really don't know - I had no problems with it
[07:43] <nickrud> gautham, no, right there in that terminal. Don't use a root terminal unless you absolutely must
[07:43] <gautham> nickrud, ok
[07:44] <helios> thanks, liable. i have two machines running ubuntu under the same workgroup. but when i go to places->network servers, i don't see the other computers. does anyone have any suggestions?
[07:44] <gautham> nickrud, yep donw
[07:44] <thoreauputic> hajuu: if pppconfig won't do it for you, try installing gnome-ppp
[07:44] <cdonges> what can I use to convert avi to mpg and then put them on a dvd with basic menus?
[07:44] <nickrud> gautham, now save the file
[07:45] <gautham> nickrud, i shud remove s frm there or what?
[07:45] <gautham> nickrud, u told to remove s from options rite?
[07:45] <Yoshimitsu> is it possible that i shouldnt have put mplayer together as root and this is perhaps why mplayer crashes when i try to play something and im not root
[07:45] <nickrud> gautham, no, just the quote mark in front of option and after it
[07:46] <nickrud> gautham, it should look like Options "VideoRam" 32768
[07:46] <gautham> nickrud,  ok :)
[07:46] <nickrud> gautham, while'll were here one more question.
[07:46] <nickrud> gautham, how much memory in the machine?
[07:46] <helios> thanks anyway. bye
[07:47] <gautham> nickrud, u mean the whole RAM?
[07:47] <nickrud> gautham, yes
[07:47] <gautham> nickrud, my RAM is 512MB
[07:47] <hajuu> mmkay... now that connection is working
[07:47] <hajuu> :D
[07:47] <nickrud> ok, we're done
[07:47] <vince_> my laptop doesn't seem to understand suspend, but in windows hybernation works fine. do I need to do something additional? please, help
[07:47] <gautham> nickrud, thats it?
[07:47] <nickrud> save the file
[07:47] <thoreauputic> hajuu: all OK then?
[07:47] <gautham> nickrud, saved
[07:47] <hajuu> thoreauputic, just testing the speed
[07:47] <nickrud> ok, now two more steps
[07:47] <Yoshimitsu> fixed it
[07:47] <Yoshimitsu> :D
[07:47] <thoreauputic> hajuu: OK
[07:48] <gautham> nickrud,  tell me
[07:48] <nickrud> after you log out, press control-alt-backspace. That's it.
[07:48] <jeff25> liable: I had to do some unsupported compiling but it works
[07:48] <Madpilot> Odd config question: is there a way to get Ubuntu to start w/ NumLock ON, rather than off?
[07:48] <gautham> nickrud, better i restart?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> hajuu: what made the difference, by the way?
[07:48] <nickrud> gautham, no, no restart needed.
[07:48] <liable> jeff25: sweet
[07:48] <gautham> nickrud, i ahve 1 more small question if u cud answer
[07:48] <hajuu> thoreauputic, I think it was the nameservers
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: install numlockx, i think
[07:48] <nickrud> gautham, sure
[07:48] <hajuu> changing to static
[07:49] <thoreauputic> hajuu: right
[07:49] <gautham> nickrud,  i have this java plugin downloaded for firefox ending with .bin,how do i execute it?
[07:49] <nickrud> gautham, lol
[07:49] <thoreauputic> hajuu: speed OK ?
[07:49] <jeff25> one thing that pisses me off is that I can't get the gnome-terminal to read /etc/profile when it runs
[07:49] <jeff25> or ~/.bash_profile
[07:49] <hajuu> Downloading at 4-5k sec... Very nice
[07:49] <hajuu> thanks so much
[07:49] <gautham> nickrud, is it so silly?
[07:49] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: thnx. found that in Syn. any config needed, or do I just install it?
[07:49] <thoreauputic> hajuu: cool :)
[07:50] <nickrud> gautham, not silly
[07:50] <gautham> nickrud, im ashamed to be a newbie
[07:50] <nickrud> needed
[07:50] <xMaximex> metacity is the wm in gnome right ?
[07:50] <gautham> nickrud, :(
[07:50] <hajuu> I wonder why the gui config is so lacking for dialup...
[07:50] <hitchhiker> mm
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: I don't know :) I just picked up that bit of info somewhere
[07:50] <nickrud> gautham, first, do the logout and ctrl-alt-bksp
[07:50] <hitchhiker> kill x
[07:50] <gautham> nickrud, yes i will be here
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: I think there's something on the wiki about it
[07:50] <jeff25> anyone here have kde and gnome on the same system ?
[07:50] <thoreauputic> jeff25: yes
[07:50] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: OK, will have to play with it, and check the wiki... :)
[07:51] <jeff25> thoreauputic: I already have gnome installed... how would I got about installing kde ?
[07:51] <hajuu> apt-get install kde ?
[07:51] <hajuu> hehe
[07:51] <thoreauputic> jeff25: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:51] <jeff25> thoreauputic: ah
[07:51] <jeff25> thoreauputic: that's it?
[07:51] <jeff25> thoreauputic: sweet!
[07:51] <thoreauputic> jeff25: it's a metapackage that will pull in what you need
[07:52] <jeff25> thoreauputic: how do I find a list of meta packages?
[07:52] <som1> apt-cache search
[07:52] <thoreauputic> jeff25: well, you don't really
[07:52] <jeff25> oh
[07:52] <som1> but i dunno what mean meta packages.
[07:52] <som1> so
[07:52] <som1> ;(
[07:52] <thoreauputic> jeff25: apt-cache search <keyword>
[07:52] <rg58sma> hi
[07:52] <rg58sma> hi
[07:52] <jeff25> thoreauputic: are there any other meta packages for WMs you know of?
[07:53] <rg58sma> how to  create a shotcut
[07:53] <thoreauputic> jeff25: yes, eg  "xfce4"
[07:53] <george_> well it looks like Intervideo is going to solve the whole legal dvd problem for linux in the US....they say they are going to produce LinDVD which will be legal on linux in the US for about $29
[07:54] <jeff25> thoreauputic: and since I now have kde and gnome on the same desktop, what login manager will run ? kdm or gdm ?
[07:54] <liable> jeff25: doesnt matter
[07:54] <thoreauputic> jeff25: the post-install will ask which you want
[07:54] <george_> now that is all....i am buzzing off
[07:55] <hajuu> if when I do apt-get update it freezes on a particular server, should I just re-comment that server out in my server list and keep going?
[07:55] <jeff25> thoreauputic: ahh I see, thanks man
[07:55] <jeff25> thoreauputic: which one do you use?
[07:55] <Madpilot> he... wonder if "george_" works for Intervideo?
[07:55] <rg58sma> how to  create a shotcut???
[07:56] <thoreauputic> jeff25: I use gdm, but either will work
[07:56] <dr_willis> hmm.. depends on what you mean by shortcut rg58sma
[07:56] <subxero> Does *anyone* here know anything about LIRC? Anything at all?
[07:56] <dr_willis> subxero,  you mean that Infrared remote thinggie?
[07:56] <dr_willis> "THinggie" - how Technical :P
[07:56] <subxero> :-) Yes. It's a serious b*tch to install and get working.
[07:57] <hitchhiker> uh
[07:57] <som1> im trying to install my audio driver (sis7012) and it wants linux source directory
[07:57] <dr_willis> subxero,  never messed with it - sorry :P I got a remote for my Audigy2 sound card - but never used it either.
[07:57] <som1> where is it?
[07:57] <rg58sma> for example to aMule
[07:57] <rg58sma> and incoming of amule
[07:58] <dr_willis> rg58sma,  gnome calles them a "launcher"  to launch a program
[07:58] <gautham> nickrud, dude my sy got screwed up
[07:58] <rg58sma> yes
[07:58] <rg58sma> that
[07:58] <thoreauputic> som1: that card is supported by default ( I have one here that works fine)
[07:58] <gautham> nickrud, genome wudnt start
[07:58] <dr_willis> and you can just use 'ln -s' to make soft links to directories from one place to another. Or just add the dir to your "favorites' ocation in the file browser
[07:58] <thoreauputic> som1: you shouldn't need to install anything
[07:58] <gautham> nickrud, i had to delete those lines which we edited
[07:58] <som1> yes but i cant get a game works.. it doesnt say any error, it just freezes in the time it loads sound
[07:59] <gautham> nickrud, now it has started
[07:59] <hajuu> where is the apt-get sources list again?
[07:59] <subxero> soml: I, too, have an already-working SiS7012 card. If you're having sound problems, I found that switching most programs to use the eSound driver works.
[07:59] <som1> /etc/apt/sources.list i think
[07:59] <Aegir`> /etc/apt-get/sources.list
[07:59] <thoreauputic> som1: more likely an esd issue
[07:59] <Aegir`> /etc/apt most likely
[07:59] <nickrud> gautham, I wish I'd had you post the last change you made
[07:59] <som1> esd?
[07:59] <gautham> nickrud, :(
[07:59] <thoreauputic> eSound
[08:00] <nickrud> gautham, yeah
[08:00] <gautham> nickrud, i shud now again edit
[08:00] <gautham> nickrud,
[08:00] <nickrud> gautham, we'll just use the one on pastebin, then ask for a doublecheck
[08:00] <gautham> nickrud, ok
[08:00] <gautham> nickrud, pls do it
[08:00] <thoreauputic> som1: some games want to use oss, but need to use esd under ubuntu
[08:00] <gautham> nickrud, u want link?
[08:00] <nickrud> gautham, patience, I have it
[08:00] <som1> well
[08:01] <som1> how can i change it?
[08:01] <hajuu> One more question before I go... within the gui.. when it asks me for my password to run, say, the terminal as root.. I put in my password.. and it works fine.. but within the console.. if I try to login as root or su up to root... and enter the same password.. it doesnt work.. how can I rectify this?
[08:01] <thoreauputic> som1: another way is to use the howto on http://ubuntuguide.org - something like "fixing sound in gnome"
[08:01] <dr_willis> hajuu,  thats a ubuntu faq. :P they have loging in as root disbled for securty reasins.
[08:02] <hajuu> aw how gay
[08:02] <dr_willis> hajuu,  you can get things to the way otehr disrtos work with "sudo passwd"
[08:02] <hajuu> how can I enable it?
[08:02] <dr_willis> hajuu,  actually its trivial :P it is more secure in some ways..
[08:02] <crimsun> see the faq (topic)
[08:02] <glick> yo
[08:02] <dr_willis> faq covers this in some detail i think
[08:02] <cmatheson> any rather common problems w/ compiling kernels on ubuntu (i can't do anything w/ getting some stinking error)..
[08:02] <thoreauputic> som1: or run gnome-sound-properties
[08:03] <dr_willis> and yes - i alwyas put it back to normal.
[08:03] <nickrud> gautham, http://pastebin.com/291139
[08:03] <rg58sma> and incoming of amule
[08:03] <thoreauputic> som1: and play with the options
[08:03] <som1> okay
[08:03] <ech0_> if i want to remove gimp, ubuntu-desktop is required to be removed too, why is that? i just want to reinstall gimp, its broken. not ubuntu-desktop.
[08:03] <som1> is it normal that xmms doesnt play mp3?
[08:03] <gautham> nickrud, i shud edit it using those lines?
[08:03] <nickrud> and it would be appreciated that a few others looked.
[08:03] <crimsun> som1: that's not normal
[08:03] <dr_willis> rg58sma,  try right click and 'make link'
[08:03] <subxero> soml: XMMS needs to be switched to use the eSound driver if you haven't done so yet.
[08:03] <thoreauputic> som1: set xmms to use the esd output
[08:03] <crimsun> ech0_: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage that can be safely removed
[08:03] <Davey> CRAP! :(
[08:03] <som1> oh, ok
[08:04] <som1> thanks
[08:04] <ech0_> oh ok, good
[08:04] <Davey> the Flash failed and now my laptop won't even boot to windows :/
[08:04] <som1> :))
[08:04] <gautham> nickrud, shall i edit it again?
[08:04] <dr_willis> Davey,  UGH oh!
[08:04] <Davey> thanks for your input cafuego
[08:04] <liable> Davey: flash bios?
[08:04] <Davey> dr_willis: yup, and its a british laptop, can't get parts here in the US :/
[08:04] <holycow> allrighty, i'm thikning that google will one day be hailed as one of humanity's greatest inventions
[08:04] <Davey> liable: CD
[08:04] <Davey> I can get the Windows boot menu, but it won't boot
[08:05] <jeff25> what's the best audio player for ubuntu
[08:05] <nickrud> crimsun, could you take a quick look at http://pastebin.com/291139, it's an xorg for an i810
[08:05] <holycow> appearently i have the very latest atheros chip not supported by the current hal version
[08:05] <Davey> and without a CD drive I have no way to load anything else on it :/
[08:05] <holycow> who would know this shit without google?
[08:05] <holycow> *sheesh*
[08:05] <hajuu> Jeff25: Same as for every other OS... VLC
[08:05] <hajuu> hehe
[08:05] <jeff25> Davey: are you trying to install with a CD?
[08:05] <hajuu> It's great
[08:05] <Davey> jeff25: I can't, I now have no CD drive
[08:05] <jeff25> Davey: I installed using pxeboot
[08:05] <crimsun> nickrud: what're the errors?
[08:06] <nickrud> crimsun, hopefully none
[08:06] <Davey> jeff25: the flash of the CD drives bios or whatever that crap is called failed half way through, the drive is dead
[08:06] <crimsun> looks good for a once-over
[08:06] <nickrud> thanks
[08:06] <gautham> nickrud, now what?
[08:06] <hajuu> "If you wish to use the root account in more traditional UNIX fashion, you can set the root password by typing sudo passwd root. This will allow you to use su or login as root on the console." -- FAQ.
[08:06] <hajuu> Well thats rather simple
[08:06] <hajuu> haha
[08:06] <Davey> jeff25: network install?
[08:06] <jeff25> Davey: yeah
[08:06] <jeff25> Davey: does your support support network booting?
[08:07] <bigern|fswebhost> WHATS A GOOD FREEWARE WEBSERVER INSTEAD OF WEBMIN FOR UBUNTU
[08:07] <jeff25> *system support
[08:07] <bigern|fswebhost> whoops
[08:07] <bigern|fswebhost> stupid caps
[08:07] <dr_willis> bigern|fswebhost,  webmin is not a web server.
[08:07] <Davey> jeff25: I have.. no idea
[08:07] <nate__> bigern|fswebhost: apache?
[08:07] <nickrud> gautham, get that link I posted, and paste it into a new gedit
[08:07] <jeff25> Davey: it will be in the PC bios menu if it does
[08:07] <bigern|fswebhost> i meant control panel
[08:07] <Davey> jeff25: then no
[08:07] <dr_willis> i find webmin to be very well done myself.
[08:07] <hitchhiker> webmin = tool for dummies
[08:07] <jeff25> Davey: :/
[08:07] <gautham> nickrud, and save it as?
[08:07] <psychonate> What exactly is the difference between beep-media-player and xmms?
[08:07] <nickrud> xorg.new
[08:07] <gautham> nickrud, ok
[08:07] <nate__> bigern|fswebhost: use apache and manually configure it, its worth it
[08:07] <crimsun> psychonate: b-m-p uses gtk2; the latter uses gtk1
[08:08] <holycow> bigern|fswebhost, webserver? webmin isn't a webserver
[08:08] <jeff25> thoreauputic: what WMs do you have installed
[08:08] <nickrud> gautham, where'd you save it :)
[08:08] <psychonate> doesn't sound like anything major
[08:08] <holycow> webmin is an app that runs on apache, apache is the webserver
[08:08] <bigern|fswebhost> i know, i meant control panel,
[08:08] <crimsun> psychonate: perhaps not at first...
[08:08] <thoreauputic> jeff25: xfce4, KDE, gnome, fluxbox
[08:08] <dr_willis> hmm webmin does not run on apache as far as i know.
[08:08] <dr_willis> it is sort of its own mini-web server in that respect.
[08:08] <nate__> bigern|fswebhost: learn to configure it without webmin, you'll learn more
[08:08] <holycow> bigern|fswebhost, control panel fo rwhat?
[08:08] <nickrud> gautham, on your desktop?
[08:08] <jeff25> thoreauputic: yeah I'm going to install fluxbox right now
[08:09] <hitchhiker> fluxbox \o/
[08:09] <thoreauputic> jeff25: note that the hoary fluxbox has issues
[08:09] <holycow> bigern|fswebhost, gnome and kde come with their own collections of apps that constitute a 'control panel' but ...
[08:09] <gautham> nickrud, where to save?
[08:09] <nickrud> gautham, home
[08:09] <bigern|fswebhost> im running a ubuntu server here at home for a test and i was lookin for a 'cpanel' type control panel
[08:09] <jeff25> thoreauputic: which one did you install
[08:09] <thoreauputic> jeff25: it was compiled with the wrong options
[08:09] <holycow> bigern|fswebhost, it sounds like you are looking for control panel apps for all the other shit?
[08:09] <gautham> nickrud, done
[08:09] <thoreauputic> jeff25: I compiled my own
[08:09] <nickrud> gautham, now close gedit
[08:09] <jeff25> thoreauputic: apt-build ?