[09:04] <gbear14275> oops... meant I followed these steps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/263543/fstrim-doesnt-work
[09:04] <Wiz_KeeD> if it waren't for the sleek new 13.10
[09:04] <Wiz_KeeD> I wouldn't be chatting here now from my notebook
[09:04] <varange> hi all. I have a problem with Unity. WHen the PC starts, the login screen appears as per normal. WHen I log in only the wallpaper appears. Nothing else. Not Ctrl-Alt=T either. I follwed all the instructions re. compiz and unity. No better
[09:04] <gordonjcp> Rory: you're right
[09:05] <varange> then created a new user account, logged in there, and voila!, same problem
[09:05] <varange> please help me if you know how to reset all defaults
[09:05] <Rory> varange: Is this on a fresh install? What version?
[09:05] <gbear14275> sda1_crypt UUID= none luks,discard  <== instructions but I think I misplaced my flag by putting it here 'sda1_crypt UUID= none,discard luks'
[09:05] <gordonjcp> Rory: but you could have something like /dev/sdx/full, /dev/sdx/part0, /dev/sdx/part<label>
[09:05] <Rory> varange: Has it always done this?
[09:05] <gordonjcp> Rory: I guess I've just reinvented BSD disklabels, badly
[09:05] <gbear14275> anyway I can recover this from the boot shell?
[09:06] <Rory> gordonjcp: You could, but we don't, and the current system is intuitive enough.
[09:06] <varange> Rory, 13,04. and no
[09:06] <Rory> varange: What happened in between it working, and it not working?
[09:06] <varange> Rory, all upgrades have been done
[09:07] <varange> Rory, the user, my sister, said she closed the lid overnight
[09:07] <varange> Rory, as she normally does
[09:08] <impradeepy> varange, can you show me the output of cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[09:08] <Rory> varange: On the login screen, is there an option to log into the Unity 2D session using the session menu?
[09:08] <varange> impradeepy, Rory one moment pls
[09:08] <varange> will get the info
[09:09] <impradeepy> varange, take your time
[09:09] <varange> ty
[09:10] <Rory> varange: The best way to share the output of commands from a console is with the "pastebinit" application: sudo apt-get install pastebinit, and then "pastebinit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"
[09:10] <varange> thx rory
[09:10] <anton02> anybody up for some botnet bingo? person with the most botnets wins! http://i.4cdn.org/g/src/1386731623272.png
[09:11] <Rory> anton02: Not here
[09:11] <stephen_rkc> @rory: I'm trying to configure a Block Storage Service node, do I need a seperate drive for that?
[09:11] <Rory> stephen_rkc: I don't know about that, sorry
[09:12] <stephen_rkc> Thanks :)
[09:13] <impradeepy> ActionParsnip, hi boss what's up?
[09:32] <mezo_> Hi guys, my /var partition is running out of space, is there any possibility to extend it without another live linux? Current schema is something like this: http://i.imgur.com/pSykEUs.png
[09:33] <ikonia> mezo_: you've got no space free either side of it
[09:33] <ikonia> mezo_: it would take a lot of effort to resize it
[09:34] <ikonia> mezo_: /var should not be using that much data, what's eating the space ?
[09:34] <mezo_> ikonia: Ye I know thats the problem... Is it possible to move it to a free space?
[09:34] <mezo_> Wait I'll screenshot in a sec
[09:34] <Rory> mezo_: It's possible downloaded .deb packages from apt archives are taking up a lot of space, try "sudo apt-get clean"
[09:34] <ikonia> mezo_: no, as you only have 1mb of unallocated space
[09:34] <Rory> ikonia: there's a big 100gb block in the middle
[09:35] <ikonia> mezo_: you also appear to have a 7GB swap partition, you may want to remove that
[09:35] <mezo_> Why should I remove that?
[09:35] <ikonia> Rory: yeah, but the effort of using that is going to be a problem, as he's going to have to make an extended partition first
[09:35] <MickS>  /var can contain lots of space. Just think about mysql which has /var/lib/mysql as default data location. Your logfiles which are in /var/log, your mail, which is in /var/spool/mail, etc.
[09:35] <ikonia> thats why I said "look at what's eating the space"
[09:35] <Rory> mezo_: If you remove the swap and recreate it after your /home partition, you can expand /var by 7GiB
[09:36] <ikonia> you're not going to do this on the fly though, you'll need to use a livecd to do this cleanly
[09:36] <mezo_> How safe is it to just remove swap? Any hints where should I starT?
[09:36] <mezo_> oh I'll need live linux :(
[09:36] <mezo_> damn
[09:36] <Rory> mezo_: Boot from a LiveCD and open gparted
[09:36] <ikonia> mezo_: swapoff so it's not in use,
[09:36] <MickS> a simple trick might be to create a new partition with that unallocated space you have and mount it on /var/lib or /var/log, or whichever subfolder in /var uses the most space right now (you can check with du -s /var/*)
[09:36] <mezo_> thanks, will try to clear it first
[09:38] <konadr> im having some issues when trying to pxeboot and kickstart 12.04.3, it doesn't find the CD-ROM to install from, despite the install section of my kickstart file pointing to a http source
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> konadr: do you have the CD referenced in the sources.list file etc?
[09:41] <konadr> I'm not sure what you mean ActionParsnip, do you mean on the server? The instalation continues fine if I mount the cdrom on the kickstart client system (this is a vmware box sorry I forgot to mention)
[09:42] <konadr> here is the top of my kickstart file ActionParsnip http://www.pastebin.ca/2496185
[09:50] <HoloIRCUser> .
[09:51] <Mongo44> What would the command be for uninstalling VBox? I installed the outdated one on the software center and I want to start over.
[09:52] <robierob> sudo apt-get uninstall vbox
[09:52] <robierob> i think
[09:52] <limace255> hi all; I want to setup a 12.04 ubuntu server on a usb key, with a ks.cfg.For the moment, I've got something quite right, but not stable, and fat.What are the necessary files to do such a thing ?
[09:52] <Mongo44> I'll try it.
[09:53] <robierob> you will also need to try a cleaning as well
[09:54] <Mongo44> That was invalid.
[09:54] <robierob> or a sudo autoremove vbox
[09:54] <robierob> sudo autoremove (name of program installed
[09:56] <robierob> always always google fu//// " how do i remove a program in linux"
[09:58] <Mongo44> It will work I just don't have the right name for Virtual Box
[09:58] <robierob> yup... got to go to the program itself to find that out.
[09:58] <jmgk> hi robierob
[09:58] <jmgk> impradeepy: hey
[09:58] <robierob> in the about section
[09:58] <robierob> hey
[09:58] <impradeepy> hi
[09:59] <robierob> sup yo?
[09:59] <robierob> lol
[09:59] <impradeepy> Mongo44, open software centre -type VirtualBox then remove it
[09:59] <robierob> i think i pooped myself
[10:00] <robierob> yup software center as well
[10:01] <varange> hi rory. still there?
[10:02] <Rory> Yes but about to go to a 10 min meeting
[10:02] <varange> Rory, ok
[10:02] <varange> I have pastebinit and all the rest now
[10:02] <varange> please check for me when you get back from the meeting
[10:03] <Rory> Paste it now so someone else can see too, also summarise your problem again
[10:04] <varange> rory ok thanks
[10:13] <Rory> OK I'm back varange where is the paste??
[10:15] <prakash_> how can i install teamviewer in ubuntu 13.04?
[10:16] <jmgk> hi prakash_
[10:16] <mezo_> Hi, I just found that I have extra large directory "/var/lib/docker", and would like to mount new partition I just created on this location, without loosing any data -> moving data from current to new partition
[10:16] <mezo_> is this possible?
[10:16] <[Gentoo]> mezo_: no
[10:17] <[Gentoo]> dont think so
[10:17] <mezo_> [Gentoo]: What if I move files somewhere else temporary, then I mount partition, move files back. Everything should be normal I guess?
[10:17] <[Gentoo]> mount the partition somewhere else, move the data to it
[10:17] <[Gentoo]> then mount it there
[10:17] <[Gentoo]> yeah
[10:18] <mezo_> Ok so thats basically what I thought
[10:18] <mezo_> thansk
[10:19] <impradeepy> prakash_, type apt-cache show teamviewer and if its available in the official repo then install it by using sudo apt-get install teamviewer
[10:19] <impradeepy> !teamviewer
[10:20] <Rory> !info teamviewer
[10:21] <Rory> prakash_: I googled "teamviewer ubuntu" and this was the second link http://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx
[10:21] <impradeepy> rory:thanks for the correct syntax
[10:21] <Rory> no impradeepy !teamviewer would recall a factoid called teamviewer. !info teamviewer looks for a package called teamviewer in the latest Ubuntu
[10:22] <adac> ince with the network manager there are problems to add a vpn connection, how can I simply start my vpn connection every time the network is connected?
[10:22] <Rory> impradeepy: It's possible there was a teamviewer factoid, although you can test by /msg ubottu factoid
[10:22] <impradeepy> rory: ok, i am using 12.04.3 when i search teamviwer using apt-cache for me it did find thats why :)
[10:23] <impradeepy> rory:thankyou
[10:24] <Rory> impradeepy: It doesn't for me, do you have a third-party repo or already installed teamviewer from a deb?
[10:25] <impradeepy> rory:already installed .deb from teamviewer site
[10:26] <Rory> that will be why it shows in apt-cache for you then
[10:27] <impradeepy> rory:yes, have a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555334/
[10:29] <jnhghy> how can I copy html files from a website? so I can open them locally?(even I don't have images?)
[10:29] <[Gentoo]> jnhghy: save page as
[10:29] <jnhghy> [Gentoo]: too many pages, how can I do it recursevely?
[10:29] <[Gentoo]> dont know
[10:30] <somsip> jnhghy: use wget
[10:30] <jnhghy> somsip: will wget download a website tree? or do I need to use it in a script
[10:30] <jnhghy> ?
[10:30] <[Gentoo]> theres a program called httrack also
[10:30] <[Gentoo]> i found on google
[10:30] <somsip> jnhghy: man wget and read about recursive downloads
[10:30] <[Gentoo]> but wget would be better of course
[10:56] <nickfox> i was getting the following error: "Invalid argument" setting key "net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range" from this line in sysctl.conf
[10:56] <nickfox> net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range = 16384 65536
[10:56] <nickfox> when i comment out the line, the error goes away but i'm not sure if i should comment it out. is it ok?
[10:57] <KLVTZ> Ah almost 3am
[10:57] <KLVTZ> I can feel the cold from my window
[10:58] <Layke> What's the default file browser called in ubuntu?
[10:58] <DJones> Layke: Nautilus
[10:58] <Layke> Thanks. :)
[10:59] <Layke> I was sure that I used to have a right click open terminal. So just googling what that package was.
[10:59] <KLVTZ> that moment when you realize it's nautilus
[10:59] <KLVTZ> i almost jumped a bridge for saying explorer
[11:00] <Layke> sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[11:00] <Layke> Got it :)
[11:01] <Layke> I've usually switched from Unity immediately and used KDE. Wich I think comes with Dolphin. I could never get used to unity lack of a taskbar. But I installed xfce4 whcih seems to help
[11:01] <Layke> I've noticed though, that I get a lot of mouse lag though..
[11:01] <Layke> I didn't use to get this before I reformatted.. not sure what could be the reason. Same hardware etc.. not sure if it's just increased requirements using unity?
[11:03] <Layke> Maybe it's compiz?
[11:04] <xyzwhatever> help pcmanfm is broke, can I just install another file manager which one is also nice and leightweight?
[11:06] <iszak> If I'm creating a mirror of apt repositories do I need -security + -updates or just the main release?
[11:08] <Xat`> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and lshell to restrict users
[11:09] <Xat`> I'm not able to use SSH with a lshell user, the session is closed automatically. No problem using lshell without SSH
[11:10] <mateusz> lol
[11:12] <lesshaste> how do you turn the out of memory killer on? Currently when I write code that uses too much RAM it swaps so badly I can only restart the whole computer
[11:16] <Walex> lesshaste: the OOM kills when both swap and RAM are full, not just RAM.
[11:17] <Walex> lesshaste: just disable the swap file.
[11:17] <Walex> lesshaste: or else run your stuff with a max memory limit using 'ulimit'
[11:18] <lesshaste> Walex, strangely I get
[11:18] <lesshaste> cat /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_ratio
[11:18] <lesshaste> 50
[11:18] <lesshaste> and I have 8GB of RAM and 8GB of swap
[11:18] <lesshaste> so why does destroy my system when I use too much ram?
[11:19] <Walex> lesshaste: that's how it is supposed to work. Unfortunately the Linux swap code is awefully bad, for various reasons.
[11:20] <lesshaste> Walex, ah... what I am doing is really basic. I am just writing python code and sometimes by accident it writes to a list that is too large
[11:20] <Walex> lesshaste: 'ulimit' is the right way to go then...
[11:21] <lesshaste> Walex, ok thanks.. how do you use that properly?
[11:21] <lesshaste> Walex, maybe I should report a kernel bug too
[11:21] <Walex> lesshaste: something like (ulimit -v $MAX; $COMMAND)
[11:22] <user_> guys how can i identify which Wireless protocol version i use (b,g,n) ?
[11:22] <user_> in ubuntu
[11:22] <lesshaste> Walex, oops... man ulimit
[11:22] <lesshaste> Killed
[11:22] <lesshaste> #
[11:22] <lesshaste> Walex, how do I get out of that?
[11:23] <lesshaste> Walex, looks like I set ulimit too low :)
[11:23] <Walex> lesshaste: 'man bash' and search for 'ulimit'
[11:23] <Walex> lesshaste: ulimit -v max
[11:23] <lesshaste> Walex, I think I have to kill that terminal  :(
[11:23] <Walex> ulimit -0v max
[11:23] <user_> anybody?
[11:23] <Walex> lesshaste: ulimit -v 0
[11:24] <Walex> user_: guaranteed response times of under 1 minute on IRC are only available to Platinum Card Members :-)
[11:24] <lesshaste> Walex, back :)
[11:24] <user_> lol
[11:24] <user_> Walex, ok!
[11:25] <Walex> user_: 'iwconfig' should tell you BTW
[11:25] <lesshaste> Walex, what units is ulimit in? The man page doesn't seem to say
[11:25] <lesshaste> ah Values are in 1024-byte increments
[11:27] <jennie> Please help me installing this driver,  http://goo.gl/3PLDGZ I am getting this error  http://pastebin.com/trgGzisW
[11:27] <gccster> Walex, i'm user_ , Walex, tried iwconfig it gives a lot of info but not current protocol used
[11:27] <AndreasL> Hey guys. I'm looking for a very simplistic, lightweight but up-to-date window manager that I can run various media center applications on top of. Any suggestions?
[11:28] <ikonia> AndreasL: you're not going to find much better than lubuntu
[11:28] <Walex> gccster: the frequency should tell you...
[11:28] <gccster> 2.437ghz but how is this connect to protocol version?
[11:29] <ActionPa1snip> AndreasL: openbox :)
[11:29] <ObrienDave> gccster, each protocol has their own frequency
[11:29] <AndreasL> ikonia, so lwm? ActionPa1snip: will check out, thanks
[11:29] <ObrienDave> gccster, *range of frequencies
[11:30] <ikonia> AndreasL: if you can just install the lubuntu distribtuion, you'll find a pretty light and fully supported product out of the box, ready to go
[11:30] <Walex> jennie: there are some typos in your commands... Also the instructions are for pre-12.04 versions of Ubuntu which did not have multiarch.
[11:30] <AndreasL> ikonia, I'm starting out with a completely minimal install anyway... I don't actually need a desktop environment :)
[11:31] <Walex> jennie: the translated page seem to have a *a lot* of typos, presumably because of the translation.
[11:31] <ActionPa1snip> AndreasL: I dont use a DE either, bit of a waste imho
[11:31] <ObrienDave> gccster, by your frequency, I can tell you that you are on "g" channel 6
[11:32] <jennie> Walex: I tried a lot to install it but it didnt worked , then I found that link which someone mentioned so I thought to give it a try
[11:32] <cfhowlett> AndreasL, xfce4
[11:32] <Walex> jennie: which printer have you got? What is your native language?
[11:33] <ActionPa1snip> cfhowlett: looking for a WM, not a DE :)
[11:33] <fikri_shb> asalamualaiku,
[11:33] <jennie> I have canonlbp2900b, I saw that link in ubuntu forums in post, my native is not english
[11:33] <peho> hi
[11:33] <fikri_shb> hi
[11:33] <gccster> ObrienDave, if you have a table  you are looking the frequencies i would be very thankful to send me the url, Because i'm searching this cause of very slow resolve speed when im on wifi
[11:33] <peho> I want to send console message to user
[11:33] <ActionPa1snip> jennie: did you check the canon site for support? They make debs for some of their products
[11:33] <gccster> ObrienDave, i've changed dns to google e.t.c. and nothing
[11:34] <AndreasL> cfhowlett: good suggestion as well, thanks
[11:34] <ActionPa1snip> peho: use wall, or if you run:  export DISPLAY=0:0; notify send "test"     they will see it on the screen :)
[11:34] <peho> I used: write [user] [tty]
[11:34] <ObrienDave> gccster, i only know this because i'm on the same frequency ;P
[11:34] <ActionPa1snip> peho: might be notify-send
[11:34] <gccster> alright
[11:35] <cfhowlett> ActionPa1snip, d'oh!
[11:35] <jennie> ActionPa1snip: they have provided the guide to install I tried with that guide but it is not printing
[11:35] <ActionPa1snip> cfhowlett: got yo back bro
[11:35] <ActionPa1snip> jennie: did you have the printer setup, then add the debs?
[11:37] <ActionPa1snip> jennie: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:37] <jennie> ActionPa1snip: these are the instructions from the printer installation guide http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555600/ , and they provide debs for installation.
[11:37] <Wiz_KeeD> I cannot install ia32-libs in ubuntu 13.10 :((
[11:37] <jennie> ActionPa1snip: output is cat /etc/issue
[11:38] <jennie> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[11:38] <peho> ActionPa1snip: I want to send command in terminal
[11:38] <freshmint> hey is there a bash command available for doing the print to file job of cups?
[11:38] <peho> but I get 'write: you have write permission turned off.'
[11:39] <jennie> Wiz_KeeD: I also need to install that ia32-libs
[11:39] <peho> mesg command return
[11:39] <peho> is y
[11:39] <peho> how can I change permission
[11:39] <Wiz_KeeD> helps? :(
[11:42] <DasEi> freshmint: you want to write to a file from comand-line ?
[11:42] <ObrienDave> gccster, after looking, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels, WLAN protocols share frequencies. my apologies for the error
[11:42] <jennie> Wiz_KeeD: try this www.mirrorservice.org/sites/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu//pool/universe/i/ia32-libs/ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu26_amd64.deb
[11:42] <Wiz_KeeD> jennie, did it work for yo?
[11:43] <ObrienDave> gccster, you can tell b,g,n by the connection speed. "b" is 11Mbps, "g" is 54Mbps
[11:43] <impradeepy> !info ia32-libs
[11:43] <jennie> Wiz_KeeD: I do not know I haven't installed it yet i need to install other stuff before it
[11:44] <freshmint> DasEi, see normally you use lp FILENAME for printing with a printer. i like to do a similiar command like lp FILENAME OUTPUT.pdf
[11:44] <freshmint> essentially it should do the same as if i select the print to file printer in the cups dialog
[11:44] <KLVTZ> hehe freshmint, i like that name
[11:44] <Wiz_KeeD> great, I knew something had to happen
[11:44] <KLVTZ> It might go on my list next to Electric Lettuce.
[11:44] <Wiz_KeeD> but what happens to applications I must install
[11:44] <Wiz_KeeD> :(
[11:46] <freshmint> im trying to set it up for a scripted bash job
[11:47] <robsco> Hey all, I asked in #lubuntu but haven't gotten a response. Maybe someone here can help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193080
[11:47] <impradeepy> ObrienDave, are you planning to buy  an adapter?
[11:48] <ActionPa1snip> jennie: and the output of:  uname -a
[11:48] <Walex> jennie: I had a look at the package with the Canon drivers and they include both the 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the drivers and they seem to "just work" on my ULKTS12.04 system
[11:48] <Walex> jennie: so I think that the 'ia32-libs' or the multiarch equivalent are not at all necessary.
[11:49] <jennie> Walex: I am trying to make it work since yesterday but no luck in printing though the printer is getting installed
[11:49] <jennie> uname -a
[11:49] <jennie> Linux sun-desktop 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:49] <Walex> robsco: that is very unlikely to be easy to fix.
[11:50] <Walex> robsco: just don't use spaces in directory names or file names ever.
[11:50] <robsco> Walex, do you think the issue is with pcmanfm?
[11:51] <Walex> robsco: yes.,
[11:51] <ObrienDave> impradeepy, nope, my lappy is embedded. tnx 4 asking
[11:51] <DasEi> freshmint: so you want to create a pdf from a file then; https://www.ehow.com/how_7380088_convert-pdf-ubuntu.html
[11:51] <robsco> I'm reasonably comfortable poking around the code and compiling
[11:51] <robsco> I'll have a look
[11:52] <robsco> I was hoping for a config file edit
[11:52] <Walex> robsco: most likely the forking off of 'lxterminal' happens in a 'system' call instead of properly by doing a 'fork', 'chdir' and then 'execve',
[11:52] <konadr> hi all, my pxeboot box keeps requesting a cdrom device, how do I specify it uses http for the source rather than having to mount an iso image (this is an esx box). There seems to be lots of guides but for different distros and I can't find any solid guide for ubuntu with http source for the pxeboot
[11:52] <impradeepy> ObrienDave, ok
[11:53] <Rory> konadr: Can you please pastebin yourexisting config? http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:53] <ObrienDave> konadr, open "software and sources" in other, uncheck cdrom
[11:53] <DasEi> freshmint: another way use OO to open a file, then export as pdf
[11:55] <konadr> Im just grabbing that now Rory, ObrienDave, it's just kickstarting a fresh VM so I don't have any options, do you mean in the software that generates kickstart files?
[11:56] <konadr> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555675/
[11:56] <ObrienDave> konadr, don't have a clue about kickstart, sorry
[11:57] <DF3D2> I have a problem that has me stumped. I have a machine I just moved to a new case. I cannot get the ubuntu installer to go past the main menu I just get a blank screen. I have checked the md5 of the downloaded .iso, the md5 of the usb stick. Remade the USB stick. Tried the usb stick in another machine ( it works fine) The machine that cannot go very far in the ubuntu installer runs windows just fine.... Any ideas? Oh I've tried no mode
[11:57] <DF3D2>  set also.
[11:57] <freshmint> DasEi, hmm.. i want something like this. COMMAND INPUT.pdf OPTIONS OUTPUT.pdf
[11:58] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: what GPU do you use?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> DF3D2, all you changed was the outer case?  same internals?
[11:58] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, none, intel integrated in to the z77 chipset so hd4000 I think?
[11:59] <DF3D2> cfhowlett, correct sir. well, I did change the processor from an i7 to an i5 in this machine but that's plug and play and it works fine in windows
[11:59] <Walex> jennie: how is printer install going?
[11:59] <DF3D2> since it was the same mobo i used the hd with windows to test i'm running prime95 now seems to have no hardware issues at all
[11:59] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: every system has a GPU, it will not POST if it does not
[11:59] <jennie> Walex: not good
[11:59] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, right it uses the integrated intel hd4000
[11:59] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: the Intel GPU may be integrated into the CPU but it is still a GPU
[11:59] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, it's a z77 chipset
[12:00] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: so why say 'none' when it obviously has one?
[12:00] <iszak> If I'm creating a mirror of apt repositories do I need -security + -updates or just the main release?
[12:00] <Walex> jennie: if you do 'ps axu | grep ccpd' does it list the 'ccpd' daemon process?
[12:00] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, i'm sorry dude... i'm a hardcore gamer so a "gpu" to me is an add-on card. Sorry for any inconvenience
[12:00] <DF3D2> anyway the integrated video works perfectly fine in windows
[12:01] <jennie> walex- > http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555687/
[12:01] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: GPU is a (g)raphical (p)rocessing (u)nit, so if it is inbuilt or in a separate card it doesn't matter. It is a GPU
[12:01] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: have you tried the boot option: nomodeset
[12:01] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, I really do know that man. I'm quite familiar with computers. I made a mistake in speaking.
[12:01] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, yes I have, same basic result the installer never goes past the main menu.
[12:01] <Walex> jennie: that looks good, means that the main part of the "driver" is running.
[12:01] <Walex> jennie: what does 'sudo ccpdadmin' say?
[12:02] <jennie> Walex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555692/
[12:02] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: try intel.nomodeset=1
[12:02] <Walex> jennie: that looks *almost* good.
[12:03] <Walex> jennie: obviously none of those names is validly defined.
[12:03] <Walex> jennie: so please open in a browser http://localhost:631/ and delete all those not-quite-right printer-definitions.
[12:05] <jennie>   I opened it but under 'printers' tab it is showing only one printer
[12:06] <Walex> jennie: what does 'sudo cat /etc/cups/printers.conf' is?
[12:06] <jennie> sudo cat /etc/cups/printers.conf
[12:06] <jennie> # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.7rc1
[12:06] <jennie> # Written by cupsd
[12:06] <jennie> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE WHEN CUPSD IS RUNNING
[12:07] <FloodBot1> jennie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:07] <DasEi> freshmint: I still to get it, pdf to pdf ??
[12:08] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, it's complaining about ata resets, these hd's are good though I just had them in another ubuntu machine. I'll try booting without them plugged in i guess
[12:08] <Walex> jennie: BTW have you downloaded the file 'Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_??_EN.tar.gz' from the Canon website?
[12:08] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, maybe because they are formatted zfs raidz1 it is causing some error?
[12:09] <jennie> yes Walex
[12:09] <Walex> DF3D2: ATA/SATA resets are never good news. It is a hw error. It could be insufficient power or bad cables.
[12:09] <Walex> jennie: have you done 'tar xzf Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_??_EN.tar.gz"? I guess so...
[12:10] <jennie> yes Walex there are *.DEB files int
[12:10] <ObrienDave> DF3D2, or loose cables
[12:10] <Walex> jennie: if you did that you should have done also 'cd Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_uk_EN/'
[12:10] <Walex> jennie: and after that 'firefox Doc/index.html' and then chosen 'installation'
[12:11] <DF3D2> Walex, hmm i'm getting ata resets now and the only thing plugged in is a dvd drive
[12:11] <DF3D2> maybe it went bad?
[12:11] <Walex> jennie: however, first please put on paste.ubuntu.com the contents of 'etc/cups/printers.conf'
[12:11] <Walex> DF3D2: maybe the motherboard went bad, or the power supply went bad.
[12:12] <ObrienDave> DF3D2, separate controller card?
[12:13] <DF3D2> LOL THE DVD DRIVE WENT BAD
[12:13] <DF3D2> it booted fine with it unplugged
[12:13] <DF3D2> that is hilarious
[12:13] <Walex> DF3D2: that sometimes happens, but usually with PATA rather than SATA.
[12:13] <DF3D2> Walex, the dvd drive has barely ever been used too, but is like 3-4 years old
[12:13] <jennie> Walex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555736/
[12:13] <DF3D2> Walex, I guess to rule out a bad cable/sata port I better try some combinations
[12:14] <DF3D2> different wire, dif port
[12:14] <Walex> jennie: ahh so the printers are defined in the 'ccpd' configuration.
[12:15] <Walex> jennie: now run 'sudo service cups restart'
[12:15] <jennie> cups stop/waiting cups start/running, process 4687
[12:15]  * DF3D2 kicks self in the ass for not removing quiet splash last night.
[12:16] <Walex> jennie:  then run 'sudo lpadmin -p LBP2900 -m CNCUPSLBP2900CAPTK.ppd -v ccp://localhost:59687 –E'
[12:18] <jennie> lpadmin: Bad device-uri scheme "ccp".
[12:18] <Walex> jennie: after that run 'sudo ccpdadmin -x canon2' and then again with "canonnew", "LBP5000", "canon2900", "LBP2900"
[12:18] <ObrienDave> DF3D2, (grub-customizer) shhhhh! don't tell anyone here ;)
[12:18] <Walex> jennie: we'll have a look at "Bad device-uri scheme "ccp"" later.
[12:20] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, okay so it is either the dvd drive or the sata port. (port worked fine yesterday) I just changed the wire, let me change the port and if it errors ill know to throw the drive away
[12:20] <jennie> Walex: all are deleted now
[12:21] <Walex> jennie: please post again to paste.ubuntu.com the contents of 'sudo cat /etc/cups/printers.conf'
[12:21] <Walex> jennie: also the output of 'lsusb'
[12:22] <jennie> ok
[12:22] <DF3D2> Okay so it "looks" like the sata port might have gone bad :-(
[12:22] <DF3D2> oh well I have more.
[12:22] <ObrienDave> DF3D2, separate controller card?
[12:23] <jennie> Walex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555779/
[12:25] <krababbel> Where can I change the NTP server ntpdate polls at boot time?
[12:25] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, nah, this mobo has 4 sata 2 ports, and 4 sata3 it looks like 1 of the sata3 bit the dust
[12:25] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, yep it did
[12:26] <ObrienDave> k
[12:26] <DF3D2> it's odd, windows didn't care (I guess it was just too stupid to interrupt the boot process and let the user know.)
[12:26] <Walex> jennie: looks like the driver '.deb' were not installed quite right...
[12:27] <jennie> how to reinstall them ?
[12:27] <jennie> correctly*
[12:28] <Walex> jennie: first do 'sudo lpadmin -x LBP2900' so the incomplete entry is deleted.
[12:29] <jennie> lpadmin: The printer or class does not exist.
[12:29] <ObrienDave> DF3D2, did you say you just put this mobo in new case?
[12:30] <Kroach> I set a custom prompt for GDB with "set prompt", how can I set it permanently? is there something like .bashrc for GDB?
[12:30] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, yes I did
[12:30] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, it used to be the mobo for my gaming rig, but it's kind of garbage so I moved it to a new case for an htpc build.
[12:30] <ObrienDave> look for damaged/bent pins on mobo port for that sata port
[12:31] <john_rambo> Hi, I am in Live cd mode now....about to install ...My HDD is 160GB ....How much space should I allocate fo the /    ?
[12:31] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, in the actual sata port, or under neath it ?
[12:31] <Walex> then do 'sudo apt-get install ia32-libs libglade2 libpopt0:i386' to be sure.
[12:31] <ObrienDave> in the connector
[12:31] <Walex> john_rambo: I use 25GB, which is a bit generous, but good.
[12:32] <john_rambo> Walex, Okay
[12:33]  * ObrienDave used 30GB
[12:33] <Walex> jennie: after that, 'sudo service cups stop' and then 'sudo dpkg --purge cndrvcups-capt cndrvcups-common'
[12:33] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, i'll do so in a min when the install finishes
[12:33] <ObrienDave> k
[12:33] <Walex> jennie: then go to where ever you unpacked the Canon driver '.tar.gz' and go into '64-bit_Driver/Debian/'
[12:34] <jennie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555821/
[12:34] <Walex> jennie: then run 'sudo dpkg --install cndrvcups*.deb'
[12:34] <Walex> jennie: that paste was good.
[12:35] <Walex> jennie: after the install, run 'sudo service cups start'
[12:36] <Walex> and then run 'sudo service ccpd start'
[12:36] <jennie> Walex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555828/
[12:37] <jennie> sun@sun-desktop:~/Desktop/Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_uk_EN/64-bit_Driver/Debian$ sudo service ccpd start
[12:37] <Walex> jennie: all looks good so far.
[12:37] <jennie> Starting /usr/sbin/ccpd: .
[12:37] <Walex> now the outputs of 'sudo lpstat -a' and 'sudo ccpdadmin', they should list no printers.
[12:38] <jennie> Walex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555834/
[12:39] <Walex> jennie: looks good.
[12:39] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, I see no physical damage, it likely just "burned out" or some such I wore a static grounding band when I moved it. and I always touch metal repeatedly to discharge but things do still happen
[12:39] <Walex> jennie:  now again 'sudo lpadmin -p LBP2900 -m CNCUPSLBP2900CAPTK.ppd -v ccp://localhost:59687'
[12:40] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, the motherboard is a bad one to begin with. It lies on reported core voltage, with actual voltage being around +0.040mv higher
[12:40] <jennie> but Walex , in paste above  UI Port       is   = 59787
[12:40] <jennie> and in command it is 59687
[12:40] <Walex> then run 'sudo find /dev -name "*lp[0-9]*"
[12:41] <Walex> jennie: ah yes, the port number should be the same, so use 59787
[12:41] <Walex> jennie: I was copying from the Canon manual unthinkingly...
[12:41] <summit> why is that ...windows use less power compared to ubuntu. Is there anyway to reduce power consumption . !
[12:42] <jennie> sun@sun-desktop:~/Desktop/Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_uk_EN/64-bit_Driver/Debian$ sudo find /dev -name "*lp[0-9]*"
[12:42] <jennie> sun@sun-desktop:~/Desktop/Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_uk_EN/64-bit_Driver/Debian$
[12:42] <Walex> jennie: after that 'sudo lpstat -a' should list the printer
[12:42] <Walex> jennie: after that 'sudo lpstat -a' should list the printer *driver*
[12:43] <jennie> Walex: look here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555844/
[12:43] <Walex> jennie: well, if the printer is attached bia USB, and 'lsusb' says it is attached, there must be some kind of entry in '/dev/' for it.
[12:44] <Walex> jennie: that paste is good!
[12:44] <ObrienDave> DF3D2, .04mv is not a problem. most things have 5 to 10% tolerance on voltages
[12:46] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, 0.040 is alot for the vcore on a cpui
[12:46] <DF3D2> mobo reporting is inaccurate, measuring the correct 2 points with a multmeter shows the same
[12:47] <Walex> jennie: so which '/dev/' entry do you think the printer is connected as?
[12:47] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, so you think you are running say +0.100 vcore but you are actually running +0.140
[12:47] <Walex> jennie: try 'ls -ld /dev/*lp* /dev/*/*lp*'
[12:48] <ludkiller> rejoin ludkiller:CUMINMYMOUTH +o -npst
[12:48] <Walex> jennie: unless your printer is network connected...
[12:48] <jennie> sudo ls -ld /dev/*lp* /dev/*/*lp*
[12:48] <jennie> ls: cannot access /dev/*lp*: No such file or directory
[12:49] <jennie> printer is connected by USB cable in computer
[12:50] <tatenda> hi
[12:50] <cfhowlett> tatenda, greetings
[12:51] <tatenda> shoo
[12:55] <YokoBR> hey guys, i can't open remote files with nautilus.. if i open it with geany, for example, it comes blank.
[13:02] <saleniex> join #nm
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:03] <jennie> Walex: ?
[13:03] <randomcpp> does anybody have the same message in terminals on trusty (desktop)? no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4831, leaking memory
[13:04] <osubuntu> 으헝헝
[13:04] <osubuntu> oh sorry
[13:04] <osubuntu> i accidently pasted weird strings here :(
[13:05] <santhosh> hai
[13:05] <DF3D2> now the dvd player and that sata port work
[13:05] <DF3D2> what the heck lol
[13:05] <santhosh> am installing ltsp on lubuntu but in my case the applcation server and clients gets same ip
[13:05] <santhosh> how to reslove this problem
[13:06] <Walex> jennie: a bit distracted by work :-)
[13:06] <ObrienDave> DF3D2, probably a loose cable ;P
[13:06] <ikonia> santhosh: sort dchp out
[13:06] <ikonia> dhcp
[13:06] <Walex> jennie: has anything been printed by 'ls' for '/dev/*/*lp*'?
[13:07] <santhosh> yes  ian using dhcp but in loogin mode geting dhcp ip after login it is geting application server ip
[13:07] <jennie> walex ls: cannot access /dev/*/*lp*: No such file or directory
[13:08] <Walex> jennie: if the printer does not appear under '/dev/' it is a big problem...
[13:08] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, I had messed around with the cables
[13:08] <DF3D2> i can't explain it
[13:08] <Walex> jennie: unplug the printer, wait 10 seconds, plug it in again, and then run 'sudo find /dev -mmin -2'
[13:09] <esde> Teamviewer was dead simple to setup on ubuntu, and is nice because it's so easy to connect without dealing with firewalls. But my ubuntu desktop always shows ~15-25% more cpu usage when TV is running. Is there a lighter weight method of remotely connecting to my Ubnutu Desktop environment (ssh access already enabled, this is to remotely connect to the /desktop/) thank yoiu
[13:09] <esde> *you
[13:09] <impradeepy> jennie, unplug, reboot then type sudo /etc/init.d/ccpd status and paste its output
[13:10] <Walex> impradeepy: that's pointless.
[13:10] <impradeepy> Walex, why?
[13:10] <santhosh> is any body on ltsp
[13:11] <Walex> impradeepy: because the printer is not appearing under '/dev/' even if it is listed by 'lsusb'. 'ccpd' cannot be configured for it unless we know the device file name.
[13:11] <ikonia> santhosh: why ?
[13:12] <karab44> Hi
[13:12] <jennie> Walex: few hours back it was showing printer under /dev/usb/lp0 , now it is not :-S . http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555939/
[13:12] <cfhowlett> santhosh, more likely in the #ubuntu-server or #edubuntu channels
[13:12] <cfhowlett> santhosh, and I believe there's a dedicated ltsp channel
[13:12] <karab44> anytime I connect my smartphone to Ubuntu I have that there is a problem with MTP. How to fix that?
[13:13] <cfhowlett> karab44, "problem" ????
 iam installing ltsp dhcp server and applicattion server in my client side ia geting ip from dhcp but after login in client machine i shows an application server ip
[13:13] <impradeepy> Walex, in that case i think "usblp kernel module"is missing, am i right?
iam installing ltsp dhcp server and applicattion server in my client side ia geting ip from dhcp but after login in client machine i shows an application server ip
[13:14] <ikonia> santhosh: 1.) check fo IP conflicts - make sure it is actually getting the same IP 2.) look at your dhcp lease file and make sure there is nothing conflicting, 3.) look at your dhcp pool
[13:16] <karab44> cfhowlett: brb, got to catch issue
[13:16] <jennie> think I have to restart computer, brb in a minute
[13:16] <impradeepy> Walex, please correct me if i am wrong thankyou, just curious to know where i am not getting it i think "usblp kernel module"is missing
[13:17] <saleniex> hi!
[13:18] <saleniex> where shared libraries are searched?
[13:19] <ikonia> saleniex: what do you mean ?
[13:19] <saleniex> i do have one in /usr/local/lib/, but got cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:19] <ikonia> saleniex: where did you get that error ? what are you trying to do ?
[13:19] <impradeepy> saleniex, please have a look-http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/libraries.html
[13:20] <ikonia> impradeepy: what is he doing ?
[13:20] <saleniex> this happens when I try to launch ModemManager
[13:20] <impradeepy> searching
[13:20] <ikonia> impradeepy: searching for what ?
[13:20] <impradeepy> package dependency o
[13:20] <ikonia> impradeepy: no - he's not
[13:21] <saleniex> ikonia: i meant search path like PATH for executables
[13:21] <ikonia> saleniex: it doesn't quite work like that
[13:21] <DF3D2> okay in pavucontrol I have SPDIF (optical) set, but sound keeps coming through the HDMI wire
[13:21] <ikonia> saleniex: 1.) how are you laucning it 2.) how did you install it 3.) can you show us in a pastebin the exact error
[13:21] <DF3D2> not sure how to fix this
[13:22] <impradeepy> ikonia:thankyou
[13:22] <ludkiller> sorry for earlier boradcast I was tricked :3
[13:22] <Walex> impradeepy: perhaps yes, perhaps not.
[13:22] <Walex> impradeepy: in theory 'udev' should load that module automagically
[13:23] <saleniex> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555992/
[13:23] <Layke> How can I output the contents of any command to a file? Basically I'm using an applicaiton that lets me specify a command that it will run, but it's not working. I want to see what the command is outputing when it's being ran..
[13:23] <ikonia> saleniex: and the answer to my other questions ?
[13:24] <impradeepy> Walex, hopes so, but we should run a troubleshoot to check it right?thats why i said to run the current status and according to you device path is missing so
[13:25] <impradeepy> Walex, usblp kernel module must be missing
[13:25] <impradeepy> Walex, can check it by lsmod | grep usblp
[13:25] <saleniex> ikonia: 1) @pastebin, 2) make from source - particular lib file is in place, 3) @pastebin
[13:25] <DF3D2> aplay -l says my alc898 digital is card 0: device 1, so I put the appropriate line in /etc/default/pulse.pa but then the daemon won't start?
[13:25] <Walex> impradeepy: yes... But <jennie> has been rebooting her system.
[13:26] <impradeepy> Walex, yes :)
[13:26] <ikonia> saleniex: you made it from source, then it should be linked against that library already
[13:26] <ft_mn> hi everybody! Does anybody know how to create a VIRTUAL usb stick on my ubuntu box?? i know how to make a virtual HD so it has to be a bit close to that
[13:26] <ikonia> saleniex: can you show me the output of "which ModemManager"
[13:26] <Walex> impradeepy: also note that 'service ccpd status' only checks whether the daemon is running, not whether it is configured for a printer, that can be done instead with 'ccpdadmin'.
[13:26] <saleniex> ikonia: /usr/local/sbin/ModemManager
[13:26] <karab44> okay
[13:27] <impradeepy> Walex, agreed
[13:27] <ikonia> saleniex: can you pastebin the output of "ldd /usr/local/sbin/ModemManager"
[13:27] <saleniex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6556012/
[13:27] <karab44> Problem with mounting smartphone is Unable to mount SAMSUNG_Android, Unable to open MTP device '[usb:001,010]'
[13:28] <ft_mn> hi everybody! Does anybody know how to create a VIRTUAL usb stick on my ubuntu box?? i know how to make a virtual HD so it has to be a bit close to that
[13:28] <saleniex> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6556012/
[13:28] <ikonia> saleniex: you sppear to have a few missing libraries, are they all in /usr/local/lib ?
[13:28] <impradeepy> yes libqmi-glib.so.1
[13:29] <ikonia> impradeepy: what are you talking about ?
[13:29] <impradeepy> ikonia:missing lib
[13:29] <ikonia> impradeepy: where is that lib
[13:29] <DF3D2> can someone help im stumped trying to setup optical audio, it should work but doesn't
[13:30] <saleniex> ikonia: yap - /usr/local/lib/libmm-glib.so.0 -> libmm-glib.so.0.0.0*
[13:30] <impradeepy> ikonia: can we find it using readelf - /usr/libqmi-glib.so.1 | grep SONAME
[13:31] <saleniex> ikonia: maybe there is smth wrong w install script?
[13:31] <ikonia> saleniex: ok, my suggestion is to go to /etc/ld.so.conf.d make a file called "ModemManager.conf" put in the path of /usr/local/lib and run ldconfig
[13:31] <ikonia> impradeepy: I'd really like you to stop giving the wrong information
[13:31] <impradeepy> ikonia: can we find it using readelf - /usr/lib/libqmi-glib.so.1 | grep SONAME
[13:31] <ikonia> impradeepy: you appear to now know what you are doing or what you are referecning in regard to saleniex's problem
[13:32] <impradeepy> ikonia:i am testing in my terminal than posting here, ok i will stop now
[13:32] <ikonia> impradeepy: your system is DIFFERENT to his, I asked HIM if HIS libraries where in /usr/local/lib
[13:33] <DF3D2> okay my optical started working but who the heck knows why
[13:33] <aent> hi, I have multiple PDF files of which I wanted to be able to merge them together, but collated with page 1 of file 1, then page 2 of file 2, page 2 of file 1, page 2 of file 2, is there any way to do that automatically?
[13:33] <saleniex> ikonia: that solved the problem
[13:33] <ikonia> saleniex: as suspected, excellent
[13:34] <saleniex> ikonia: so it might be reported as an install script bug?
[13:34] <ikonia> saleniex: no, not at all
[13:34] <impradeepy> ikonia:apology
[13:34] <DF3D2> there is some bug in pulse/alsa when switching between hdmi/optical audio
[13:34] <ikonia> saleniex: you're supposed to understand what's happening and make your system setup in line with what you are doing, the ldconfig has changed over the last few years,
[13:35] <saleniex> ikonia: well, those missing libs came from ModemManager and I did reinstalled this software twice
[13:36] <saleniex> ikonia: anyway, thanks for help!
[13:36] <ikonia> saleniex: they are not missing - they are there, it's not a bug
[13:36] <ikonia> saleniex: you just didn't setup your machines linker
[13:37] <saleniex> ikonia: ok, i see
[13:38] <cfhowlett> !mtp|karab44,
[13:39] <hays> Wow. I should not have upgraded to 13.10. Computer boots to X and won't let me in from there.
[13:39] <karab44> mtp is not there :(
[13:40] <Mongo44> !mtp | karab44
[13:40] <BluesKaj> DF3D2. , open a terminal and run , sudo lshw -C sound , then pastebin the output
[13:41] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, will do, I got the optical to work but it only shows up as "digital stereo" it should be 5.1 right?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> DF3D2. depends on the source audio stream , even dolby digital is only inb 2.1  on some sources
[13:43] <cfhowlett> karab44, depends on what version of ubuntu you're running.  12.04 doesn't support mtp without help.  search for ubuntu ##.## + android and you'll find a few workarounnds
[13:43] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, oh.... if I hit 'ac3' or 'dts' in pavucontrol sound doesn't work anyway
[13:44] <DF3D2> http://pastebin.com/4vZtPycX
[13:44] <BluesKaj> pcm audio is usually 2 ch stereo , it's just digital
[13:44] <karab44> yes but I use 13.04 and people just say 13.04 has great improvements for mtp support
[13:45] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, the dvd says it is 5.1 on the box
[13:45] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, yeah my receiver has the PCM light on
[13:45] <DF3D2> I want 5.1/dolby to work
[13:47] <cfhowlett> karab44, mtp is not where?  there are multiple hits on it via google search: ubuntu + mtp + android
[13:48] <BluesKaj> DF3D2. ok , which player are you using ..VLC is best for digital sources in my experience , the VLC audio has to be setup to work with pavucontrol outputs
[13:48] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, yes vlc, and I have it set to use "pulse audio"
[13:49] <DF3D2> and spdif
[13:49] <k1l_> karab44: since 13.04 there is mtp support ootb
[13:49] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[13:49] <DF3D2> I figured it out
[13:50] <DF3D2> it would only work if I set the output to ALSA in VLC
[13:50] <DF3D2> why is that?
[13:50] <k1l_> karab44: make sure your android is setup right and the cable is working
[13:50] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: pulse is an abstraction on top of alsa, so maybe going straight to alsa helps
[13:50] <karab44> k1l_: I know that, then bigger suprised I am. With cables everything is cool.
[13:50] <Villiska> Is there any way to remove the annoyance of upgrading to 13.10 in 13.04 until end of life date? If I run "sudo apt-get upgrade" it tries to force the upgrade. I want to use 13.04 until the last day due to 13.10 being so buggy. How can I fix this?
[13:51] <Villiska> I've already changed it to notify me "never" so I'm not sure why it still does
[13:51] <Guest62727> Hi, I want to boot ubuntu from pen drive but it doesn't have a boot menu, what I need to do?
[13:51] <ActionPa1snip> Guest62727: hold SHIFT at boot
[13:51] <karab44> I connect my phone through VM on ubu13.04 host to W7 and it works flawlessly.
[13:52] <Guest62727> I can only press tab and alt+F2
[13:52] <cfhowlett> karab44, people say ... right.  well, the fix, if you're interested, takes about 90 seconds.  find it, install it, enjoy it.
[13:52] <ActionPa1snip> Guest62727: SHIFT is the Grub2 key to show its contents rather than just boot the default (if you single boot)
[13:52] <BluesKaj> DF3D2. ok good stuff
[13:52] <IvanT> but my boot menu isn't grub
[13:53] <IvanT> The bios is Phoenix
[13:53] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=6931f2664e23f5cb414f17cedb53f05b21428075
[13:53] <k1l_> karab44: so we are talking about a ubuntu in VM? make sure the usb gets to ubuntu
[13:53] <karab44> nope, ubuntu is a host
[13:53] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, seems to be a well known issue that dolby digital/dts only work with HDMI via pulse audio, for optical you have to use ALSA direct. Sucks that my receiver is a bit old and doesn't do audio via hdmi only video.
[13:53] <IvanT> I just installed ubuntu in the pen drive
[13:53] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, sorry.
[13:54] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=6931f2664e23f5cb414f17cedb53f05b21428075
[13:54] <karab44> Cmon cfhowlett are talking here about fix or workaround? I don't need 50 tools apps and 500 different libraries because 499 of them doesn't work. I love to keep my system clean out of rubbish
[13:54] <IvanT> It doesn't detect the pendrive
[13:54] <k1l_> karab44: like i said. it should work ootb. make sure that the usb port is not used by the VM for smth other
[13:54] <IvanT> I just detect floppy disk
[13:54] <IvanT> is the bios too old?
[13:54] <karab44> my VM doesn't work constantly, I just use it for testing from time to time
[13:55] <ActionPa1snip> IvanT: not all BIOSes can boot USB
[13:55] <ActionPa1snip> IvanT: there is a floppy image on pendrivelinux which can then boot USB
[13:55] <Villiska> Is there any way to remove the annoyance of upgrading to 13.10 in 13.04 until end of life date? If I run "sudo apt-get upgrade" it tries to force the upgrade. I want to use 13.04 until the last day due to 13.10 being so buggy. How can I fix this?
[13:55] <IvanT> ActionPalsnip: how to know if my bios can boot usb?
[13:55] <Villiska> I've already changed it to notify me "never" so I'm not sure why it still does
[13:56] <k1l_> karab44: wait, are you wokring with ubuntu or something other?
[13:56] <IvanT> k1l_: ?
[13:56] <ActionPa1snip> IvanT: look in it's options, see if USB is an option
[13:57] <IvanT> ActionPalsnip: there is no boot menu but there is setup and it boot windows by defauld
[13:57] <jrib> Villiska: apt-get upgrade won't upgrade you to 13.10 unless you've done something strange.
[13:57] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, ActionPa1snip it seems like pulse audio is usually alot more trouble than it is worth
[13:58] <oquidave> hello, could someone explain the addressing scheme linux uses to assign the device blocks to usb flash disks/modems? what does /dev/ttyUSB0, /dev/ttyUSB1, /dev/ttyUSB2 mean?
[13:58] <Villiska> Well, the only thing I've done is go into my update settings and change the "show new ubuntu updates" to "never"
[13:58] <karab44> k1l_: Generally I am working with computer. :) Ubuntu -----> host (MTP problem) W7 -----> VM guest (no problem).
[13:58] <oquidave> hello, could someone explain the addressing scheme linux uses to assign the device blocks to usb flash disks/modems? what does /dev/ttyUSB0, /dev/ttyUSB1, /dev/ttyUSB2 mean?
[13:58] <deanrock0> hi, any idea why I would get this error: "./configure: line 4362: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(USB, libusb-1.0 >= 1.0.0,,'" even though I have libusb-1-0.0-dev installed?
[13:58] <jrib> Villiska: what exactly are you seeing when you run apt-get update?
[13:58] <k1l_> karab44: which ubuntu?
[13:58] <Villiska> but I see the same packages trying to install as i do in dist-upgrade
[13:58] <Villiska> One second
[13:58] <karab44> 13.04
[13:58] <jrib> Villiska: dist-upgrade also does not upgrade you to 13.10.p
[13:58] <Villiska> Really?
[13:58] <jrib> !dist-upgrade | Villiska
[13:58] <k1l_> karab44: which file manager?
[13:59] <karab44> nautilus
[13:59] <Villiska> jrib,
[13:59] <Villiska> The following packages have been kept back:
[13:59] <Villiska>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[13:59] <Villiska> The following packages will be upgraded:
[13:59] <Villiska>   python3-distupgrade ubuntu-release-upgrader-core ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk
[13:59] <Villiska> 3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[13:59] <FloodBot1> Villiska: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:59] <pkp> Is there a way that I could access mounted file systems in ubuntu server?
[13:59] <jrib> Villiska: dist-upgrade just tells the package manager it's ok to install new packages as a result of changed deps
[13:59] <k1l_> karab44: please show the dmesg output when connecting the phone
[13:59] <jrib> Villiska: that's just a normal upgrade.  You should do a dist-upgrade (since otherwise you won't get kernel upgrades)
[13:59] <IvanT> ActionPalsnip: how to find this: there is a floppy image on pendrivelinux which can then boot USB
[13:59] <karab44> k1l_: sure, thank you
[13:59] <BluesKaj> DF3D2., I loop the hdmi thru the tv back to the receiver via the optical outs on thr tv into the receiver's 2nd optical input , i don't use it much since the spdif out goes directly to the the receiver ., but it's backup
[13:59] <Villiska> So that's not 13.10?
[13:59] <jrib> Villiska: correct
[13:59] <Villiska> Thank you very much!
[14:00] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, yeah this tv doesn't have optical in out, so my setup is like this pc>receiver (optical) pc>direct tv (hdmi) I need to get a receiver that does hdmi audio eventually but this one is 7.1 and sounds fine so I can't see spending money on a new one till it breaks
[14:00] <pkp> Just in case my question got lost, Is there a way I can access mounted file system from server?
[14:00] <pkp> ubuntu server, I mean.
[14:00] <Villiska> Thank you very much jrib. I got a PM saying I can speak now so I'm not sure you got that.
[14:01] <jrib> pkp: sure
[14:02] <BluesKaj> DF3D2. agreed my receiver is 7 yrs old now , but it still works great and I have no plans to to change it
[14:02] <pkp> jrib, How? I have set up an apache server, but the mounted filesystems need root privilege to be accessed..
[14:02] <jrib> pkp: what filesystem?
[14:02] <pkp> ntfs, jrib
[14:03] <pkp> jrib, basically my windows fs
[14:03] <jrib> !ntfs | pkp
[14:03] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, my stereo music receiver is like 35-40 y.ears old, sansui and it sounds amazing
[14:03] <jrib> pkp: you should be able to modify the permissions (probably at mount time)
[14:05] <wadie> I'm having a network issue..I can't load any website on firefox or chrome! but I do have internet connection.
[14:05] <BluesKaj> DF3D2. yeah , one of my buddies still uses his sansui 8080 receiver for his music system , he bought it in 1976 :)
[14:06] <andygraybeal> BluesKaj, my dad has something similiar
[14:07] <BluesKaj> andygraybeal. , yeah i'm old :)
[14:07] <wadie> can someone help me please
[14:07] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, that is a damn good unit, I have an au8500 which is another gem. Sansui/marantz/kenwood/pioneer all amazing 70's stuff
[14:07] <andygraybeal> BluesKaj, i thought i was old :)
[14:07] <DF3D2> my receiver is 15 years older than me O.O
[14:08] <andygraybeal> wadie, check your DNS first i would suspect, how are you on irc?
[14:08] <wadie> I don't know lol
[14:08] <BluesKaj> DF3D2. I still use a Heathkit AA29 amp for backup . built in 1972
[14:08] <wadie> I just can't load any website,but I do have an internet connection
[14:08] <andygraybeal> wadie, okay welll .. go to terminal and do 'dig www.google.com'  something shuld come up.. also try 'ping www.google.com'
[14:08] <k1l_> wadie: do you use a proxy or vpn?
[14:08] <andygraybeal> if nothing comes up.. i wonder hw your on irc :)
[14:08] <BluesKaj> wadie. how do you know , can you update/upgrade ?
[14:09] <wadie> andygraybeal I can ping google.com
[14:09] <andygraybeal> k1l_, asks better questions than me :)
[14:09] <wadie> k1l_ no proxy or vpn
[14:09] <andygraybeal> i think he is on to something quicker than i am.
[14:10] <wadie> BluesKaj I can check for updated..
[14:10] <wadie> updates
[14:10] <andygraybeal> wadie, are you refreshed your browser right?
[14:10] <wadie> yea
[14:10] <wadie> and I tried on firefox and chrome
[14:10] <IvanT> now the pen drive works, but it just display some black and white stripe
[14:10] <BluesKaj> wadie. are you using a bridged connection on your modem ?
[14:10] <IvanT> what is the problem?
[14:10] <wadie> BluesKaj what is a bridged connection? I do have a router and a modem
[14:11] <BluesKaj> wadie. pastebin, the output of, ifconfig
[14:12] <wadie> can't load pastebin lol
[14:12] <BluesKaj> oops :)
[14:12] <wadie> tell me what to send you
[14:12] <wadie> which lines or soemthing
[14:14] <Nach0z> whoops. wrong button. lol.
[14:15] <wadie> BluesKaj anything ?
[14:15] <andygraybeal> wadie, bro, reboot?  try again... i know i'm gonna get made fun of for that...
[14:16] <john_rambo> lsusb shows my flash drive but it is not getting mounted .....Does that mean its wont work anymore ?
[14:16] <andygraybeal> sounds like you got proxy config'd like k1l_ was saying
[14:16] <BluesKaj> wadie. cabn transfer the text to the pc your're chatting on with a textfile or some such ?
[14:16] <wadie> yea I can
[14:16] <andygraybeal> john_rambo, i had the same problem... look at sudo fdisk -l or run sudo gparted .. does it show anything?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> can you, rather
[14:17] <wadie> and send the textfile to you ?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> pm me and post it there , wadie
[14:17] <wadie> ok
[14:18] <BluesKaj> then I can post it in pastebin for others to look at , wadie
[14:18] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, where are module.ko files stored?
[14:18] <wadie> andygraybeal I'm sure I don't have proxy and rebooting might fix it,but it's not the first time this happens. I want an effective fix.
[14:18] <john_rambo> andygraybeal, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6556191/
[14:18] <andygraybeal> do what BluesKaj says, i'm sure he's better at this than me :)
[14:18] <wadie> sure
[14:18] <wadie> I'm doing it
[14:20] <andygraybeal> john_rambo, is that jump drive a 4gb drive.. that looks like it's hooking up to /dev/sdb ?
[14:21] <andygraybeal> or is that another drive on  your system all together?
[14:22] <andygraybeal> john_rambo, lets hope someone else jumps in with a more practical answer than me :)
[14:22] <john_rambo> andygraybeal, Its an usb flash drive of 4 GB
[14:22] <john_rambo> I will just reformat it
[14:23] <andygraybeal> gparted is easy to use, easy enough for me to figure out :)
[14:25] <Nach0z> gparted is definitely easier than windows' disk manager
[14:25] <andi_> i have a problem running ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my 8 years old Acer Travelmate notebook: It is getting too hot. Have googled a lot but found no solution. any advice is very welcome.
[14:27] <andi_> i am actually only running thunderbird and firefox. I think it has nothing to do with flash applications.
[14:28] <andi_> is this the right channel to get this question answered?
[14:28] <botsu> andi_: i would start with updating the system
[14:29] <MickS> andi_: thoroughly clean your laptop... in those years it may have collected a lot of dust, so your cooling isn't as efficient as it was. Secondly you might want to consider lubuntu, the lightweight version, which might cause some less load for your system
[14:29] <andi_> it has the latest patchlevel.
[14:30] <andi_> the laptop itself is old, the installation is only two weeks old, completly new, no upgrade
[14:31] <andi_> the laptop is even getting hot while being idle for hours
[14:32] <andi_> must be a configuration or driver problem or the like
[14:32] <botsu> andi_: next thing i'd do is to run System Monitor app and see if there is a program or process at fault
[14:32] <andrewvos> Am I allowed to paste a link to an askubuntu question in here to perhaps get some more visibility?
[14:33] <botsu> if your computer is running a single process at 100%, kill it and see what you get
[14:33] <andi_> botsu: if if run "top" i the there is not process consuming cpu
[14:34] <andi_> botsu: if i run "top" i see there is no process consuming cpu
[14:34] <andrewvos> I'm running 13.10 on a new MBA 6.2. Also, I have 13.10 on a 5.1 MBA. When I run sysbench with a CPU test the new 6.2 is twice as slow as the old 5.1 MBA. Any ideas why?
[14:35] <andygraybeal> andi_, i would try what MickS said, take your laptop apart and clean it out.
[14:35] <andrewvos> I didn't use the ubuntu Mac 64 release becuase it wouldn't boot up. I'm using the 64 bit default release
[14:35] <andygraybeal> if it is just idling, and overheating...  :(
[14:35] <Ari-Yang> andygraybeal: what graphics card?
[14:36] <Ari-Yang> amd?
[14:36] <botsu> andi_: sometimes when computer are about to go bye bye they start behaving oddly, maybe it's hardware related but that's just a guess
[14:36] <andygraybeal> Ari-Yang, lots of and*'s :)
[14:36] <Ari-Yang> andi_: run lspci | grep VGA what is the output
[14:36] <Ari-Yang> @ andy my bad
[14:36] <andrewvos> Apologies for breaking all your tab completion :)
[14:38] <rosco_y> andrewvos: are you using ubuntuone?
[14:38] <Ari-Yang> andi_: if you do have a radeon card (like hd4000 series or something), then I think it's safe to say that the radeon open source driver is running your laptop hot, that is known to happen.
[14:38] <Choofn> hello
[14:38] <andi_> Ari-Yang: Says: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc [AMD/ATI] RV410/M26 [Mobility Radeon X700]
[14:39] <andrewvos> rosco_y: I am not
[14:39] <andygraybeal> Ari-Yang, right on!
[14:39] <Ari-Yang> andi_: alright, what ubuntu version are you running?
[14:39] <botsu> andi_: also, is this heat coming from a specific part of the case? might help you determine what component is acting up
[14:39] <andi_> Ari-Yang: 12.04 LTS
[14:39] <nisse_> I have created a panel with pop up function on the lower half of the screen. how do i make it fully transparent according to what window i have up?
[14:40] <rosco_y> andrewvos: I had a problem with ubuntuone pegging (at least one) of my processors to 100%, and I wasn't even using it.
[14:40] <nashant> Hey, I've got a screensaver problem. I've disabled it, but still after about 10 minutes of no activity the screen goes blank
[14:40] <rosco_y> really slowed my system down
[14:41] <andygraybeal> nashant, sounds like power configuration
[14:41] <rosco_y> I think I uninstalled ubuntuone, haven't had a problem since
[14:41] <Ari-Yang> andi_: yeah, it's a radeon card... but the thing is it's an old one and I don't think the new dynamic power management works for it, afaik it only works for HD series... check this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#Kernel_3.10.x_and_Earlier
[14:41] <randomcpp> does anybody have the same message in terminals on trusty (desktop)? no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4831, leaking memory
[14:41] <andrewvos> rosco_y: My processors seem to be pretty stable
[14:41] <nashant> andygraybeal: Any where would I find the config for that?
[14:41] <rosco_y> andrewvos: must be something else
[14:41] <nashant> oops
[14:41] <nashant> got power config
[14:41] <DJones> randomcpp: Probably best asking in #ubuntu+1 for Trusty issues, thats the support channel for the development release
[14:42] <andygraybeal> nashant, what ver of ubuntu 12.04?  "Gear Icon" -> System Settings ...
[14:42] <Ari-Yang> andi_: I suppose you could try fglrx... it's amd's proprietary driver and it might help, though I warn you it may break something, it tends to do that, especially with newer cards; though your card isn't new...
[14:43] <nashant> andygraybeal: using xfce, but I had it set to never put the monitor to sleep
[14:43] <andygraybeal> nashant, hopefully someone with more experience will respond then :)
[14:43] <ActionPa1snip> nashant: what screensaver are yu using?
[14:43] <ActionPa1snip> nashant: gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver?
[14:44] <nashant> ActionPa1snip: How do I find out?
[14:44] <kongthap> how can i resize the desktop icon size using terminal???
[14:44] <ActionPa1snip> nashant: dpkg -l | grep screebsaver
[14:44] <andi_> Ari-Yang: A couple of days ago I already tried fglrx for any reason. I had the problem that the screen resolution wasnt the native anymore. I wasnt able to configure it properly using UI tools. So I deinstalled it again.
[14:44] <ActionPa1snip> nashant: dpkg -l | grep screensaver
[14:44] <nashant> ActionPa1snip: xscreensaver
[14:45] <ActionPa1snip> nashant: run:  xscreensaver-demo      under advanced you can disable power management as well as disable the kill the daemon
[14:47] <nashant> ActionPa1snip: Display power management is disabled
[14:48] <wadie> BluesKaj
[14:50] <andi_> Ari-Yang: Do you think installing the latest Ubuntu (13.10?) will solve it?
[14:51] <andi_> Ari-Yang: Maybe because of running a newer kernel?
[14:51] <Ari-Yang> andi_: maybe.... like install 13.10 then add radeon.dpm=1 to GRUB
[14:51] <Ari-Yang> andi_: or install a new kernel on 12.04 if you want...
[14:52] <Ari-Yang> andi_: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12.4-trusty/ that is the latest stable
[14:52] <andi_> Ari-Yang: Can i simply install a new kernel without having large effects?
[14:52] <Ari-Yang> andi_: if you are on 64bit then download and install the headers amd64, the headers all, and the image amd64
[14:53] <andi_> Ari-Yang: No, its 32bit
[14:53] <Ari-Yang> andi_: or just install ubuntu 13.10
[14:53] <hiroshi> @
[14:53] <Ari-Yang> andi_: oh then download and install the headers i386, the headers all, and the image i386
[14:54] <andi_> Do you think running ubuntu 13.10 from CD is a valid test before doing all that?
[14:54] <andi_> Ari-Yang: Do you think running ubuntu 13.10 from CD is a valid test before doing all that?
[14:54] <Ari-Yang> andi_: it will be tricky because you have to add the radeon.dpm=1 parameter to grub
[14:54] <Ari-Yang> andi_: alright, I got to go afk, good luck
[14:55] <andi_> Ari-Yang: Thank you very much!
[14:55] <compdoc> dont think so
[14:55] <Felipe_C> HI, Anyone could could answer a couple of questions regarding JUJU - Manual provisioning?
[14:56] <andygraybeal> felipe_C , maybe better response in #ubuntu-server, but i cannot say
[14:57] <Felipe_C> Thanks andygraybeal - will try!
[14:57] <andygraybeal> and i dn't know if it's the rules here, but it's best just to ask the question, not ask to ask the question.  but i'm not being a b(tsh about it.
[14:58] <nisse_> I get error message Main failed on playonlinux when i tried to start Baldurs Gate 2. tips?
[15:00] <cfhowlett> nisse_, tip: tell the actual error message!
[15:00] <nisse_> Thats the actual error message i get
[15:01] <nisse_> Error in main
[15:01] <nisse_> Baldur's Gate II crashed.
[15:01] <cfhowlett> nisse_, see the wine database.  playonlinux is the frontend of wine
[15:01] <cfhowlett> !wine
[15:01] <streulma> hello, I find out that Linux (Ubuntu) on a Macbook Pro Retina 15 inch, is not crisp and clear to read on lower resolutions. What can I do to run Linux?
[15:02] <herol3oy> I have a big problem about my mail and web server, can i ask it here?
[15:03] <cfhowlett> herol3oy, server?  #ubuntu-server    but ask here first
[15:03] <streulma> herol3oy, if your server runs Ubuntu Server, yes
[15:05] <andi_> I found an interessting boot msg regarding my system getting too hot, maybe through Radeon driver:
[15:05] <andi_> radeon: refused to change power statet, currently in D0
[15:06] <andi_> radeon: power state changed byACPI to 3dhot
[15:06] <andi_> radeon: power state changed to D0
[15:06] <andi_> is this an indicator for anything?
[15:07] <andygraybeal> Ari-Yang, you still around and see what andi_said?
[15:08] <herol3oy> i have got a website and someone or somthing is sending thousand of emails from my default mail account which is set to my user account and right now inside my mail box there are more 40000 undelivered msgs. how i can i stop this?
[15:08] <herol3oy> http://www.xum.ir/images/2013/12/11/asd.jpg
[15:09] <iszak> If I'm creating a mirror of apt repositories do I need -security + -updates or just the main release?
[15:09] <gordonjcp> herol3oy: are they actually attempting to send it through your mailserver?
[15:09] <andi_> andygraybeal: I think Ari-Yang left...
[15:09] <gordonjcp> herol3oy: it may be that they are sending it through another server, and just have your email address as the return address
[15:10] <herol3oy> gordonjcp: so what should i do?
[15:11] <herol3oy> gordonjcp: (and the main problem is that i can not remove that email address?)
[15:13] <gordonjcp> herol3oy: ensure that your server is not being used to send spam, and wait it out...
[15:13] <Choofn> hello lads
[15:13] <Choofn> anyone on here
[15:14] <compdoc> who wants to know?
[15:14] <bgardner> Choofn: Maybe
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Choofn. yes , do you have a question ?
[15:14] <Nach0z> the NSA probably does, compdoc
[15:15] <Nach0z> seriously though there's probably NSA IRCds attached to every major IRC network :|
[15:15] <Nach0z> because most of them are foreign to some degree so that makes it "okay"
[15:16] <k1l_> Nach0z: would you mind to drop that topic into the offtopic channel?
[15:17] <bgardner> Go ahead with your question, Choofn
[15:17] <herol3oy> gordonjcp: so what do u think about the 2nd picure?
[15:18] <thurstylark> I want to mount a samba share using fstab and then prompt the user for the username and password for the share when it mounts. Is there a way to do this?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> Nach0z. guess theat makes me a "ferriner" :)
[15:19] <Nach0z> BluesKaj: D:<
[15:28] <Mattviapc> Hi
[15:28] <xyzwhatever> heeelp, what can I do if a software needs a certain package, but when I want to install it, it says this has been obsoleted?? ;(
[15:29] <Mattviapc> I am installing Ubuntu and it has asked me to install the grub boot loader on a hard disk. Is this safe if I have another hard drive running windows?
[15:29] <te> Mattviapc: It is safe
[15:30] <thurstylark> I want to mount a samba share using fstab and then prompt the user for the username and password for the share when it mounts. Is there a way to do this?
[15:30] <Mattviapc>  even if my windows hard drive is not plugged in at the moment?
[15:31] <te> Mattviapc: If your computer only boots to one hard drive, it is essential that grub be written to that main hard drive.  But either way, that is the best way.  It will over-write the MS-Windows boot loader but will also show an option to boot to MS-Windows each time you start your computer.
[15:33] <te> Mattviapc: Just now read your last response... It would have been better to have left that hard drive plugged in.  As it is, you may need to unplug the MS-Windows hard drive each time you boot to Ubuntu.
[15:41] <andi_> radeon: power state changed to D0
[15:42] <andi_> one more question: how can I suppress the login dialog completely, also after hibernate and sleep?
[15:45] <j2daosh> hey all. i need to install something that will easily allow me to monitor my home network. i have comcast internet and they just told me i hit the 300 GB cap, but i don't know which system(s) are causing the usage to be so high. so i need something that can monitor multiple systems (6 computers, 2 wii's, 4 cell phones, 2 tablets). i thought about using squid, but i don't know how i will get...
[15:45] <j2daosh> ...all the devices to connect through the proxy
[15:45] <Themus> Welcome Themus , now, you're operator ! Good luck for survive :)
[15:45] <Themus> I want to test my bot (it is a bot who op all people) ! Can you enter in my channel 2sec for test ? This is the #ALL-OP channel ! Thanks for you ;)
[15:45] <j2daosh> anyone know of any good open source tools that will allow me to do that? something like solar winds, but free for personal use would be great
[15:46] <Themus> Welcome SASDOE , now, you're operator ! Good luck for survive :)
[15:49] <qwe13> is it possible to install .deb packages using scp:// uri? like dpkg -i scp://host:/path/to/file.deb
[15:50] <IdleOne>  scp://host:/path/to/file.deb | sudo dpkg -i *.deb should work
[15:51] <prx> Hey, I recently changed nameservers for my domain, and i couldn't access it from my computer because the DNS is cached. I tried to flush it using "sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean restart
[15:51] <prx> " but i still cant access it. when i tried through proxy it works
[15:51] <malinus> qwe13, DON'T INSTALL ANYTHING FROM NOT THE REPO AND NOT TROUGH APT-GET
[15:51] <malinus> OFFICIAL #UBUNTU STATEMENT
[15:51] <IdleOne> !caps
[15:51] <faucon> where can i get quake pak files?
[15:51] <malinus> ubottu, it was just very important
[15:52] <IdleOne> malinus: no it wasn't.
[15:52] <malinus> ubottu, no you are not, lies
[15:52] <Frozen-Solid> i'm having some really weird networking issues and i have no idea what is wrong. it's an ubuntu vm, all the other vms on this host are working fine. but i can't ping anything.
[15:52] <prx> lol
[15:52] <Frozen-Solid> if anyone could help me troubleshoot i'd greatly appreciate it
[15:52] <qwe13> malinus why i can't install packages i've created myself?
[15:52] <malinus> qwe13, because it can mess up apt-get, also that's not my opinion but #ubuntu's
[15:53] <prx> qwe13, you sure can
[15:53] <IdleOne> qwe13: you can. malinus: please stop.
[15:53] <faucon> where can i get quake pak files? or direct me to the channel where i can find help about it.
[15:53] <prx> can anyone help me out here?
[15:53] <n008> ubottu shutdown
[15:53] <prx> IdleOne perhaps you :)
[15:53] <IdleOne> prx: no idea, sorry
[15:53] <faucon> prx: problem?
[15:53] <qwe13> the problem is that they were build on another host than the one i want to test them
[15:54] <somsip> prx: that will take time to propogate. You just have to wait
[15:54] <malinus> IdleOne, he *can* but when the cancer of apt-get start acting (and at some point it will). You will tell him "You shouldn't have installed anything not from the standard repo". And he will be sad. So I'm just preparing him.
[15:54] <jhutchins> qwe13: Of course you can install your own packages.  One of the advantages of the package management system is that you can fix it if your package breaks something.
[15:54] <prx> Hey, I recently changed nameservers for my domain, and i couldn't access it from my computer because the DNS is cached. I tried to flush it using "sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean restart" but i still cant access it. when i tried through proxy it works
[15:54] <jhutchins> qwe13: I'm not sure what remote options dpkg honors, but you can of course copy the package then install it.
[15:55] <IdleOne> malinus: he created the package himself, I think he understands the dangers. Now please stop trying to help be scaring people, because it doesn't help.
[15:55] <prx> somsip: usually, if i dont try to access the website before, it takes a few minutes, but since i accessed it, it remembers... anyone else who will now try to access the website will be able to do it
[15:56] <somsip> prx: The 'it' that remembers is different for different users/ISPs. http://is.gd/xZ6V08
[15:56] <IdleOne> qwe13: anyway, I don't think you can use dpkg -i that way. What you need to do is get the package you want to install to the system that it will be installed on. So, scp the package over and then dpkg -i
[15:57] <jhutchins> prx: I don't think anybody else knows what you're runnng for dns caching.
[15:57] <prx> The ISP's nameserver caches this value for usually about 4 hours so further queries are not required during that time.  The IP is returned to the client to use to access the server.
[15:57] <prx> thanks somsip :)
[15:57] <somsip> prx: np. Just give it time. It'll sort itself out.
[15:58] <qwe13> finally i realized the best way to ask google about it and then i've found http://askubuntu.com/questions/51854/is-it-possible-to-install-a-deb-from-a-url
[15:58]  * prx hates waiting :)
[15:59] <qwe13> hm... actually i can to make them available via http
[16:00] <jhutchins> prx: You could always use a google nameserver or something to get around the cache.
[16:00] <xyzwhatever> help
[16:00] <jhutchins> prx: <IP_ADDRESS> usually works.  CHange it in the /etc/resolve.conf and let it be overwritten next DHCP renewal.
[16:00] <somsip> !details | xyzwhatever
[16:01] <xyzwhatever> How can I add debian-ports repository to ubuntu??
[16:01] <bazhang> xyzwhatever, you dont
[16:01] <jhutchins> xyzwhatever: Very bad idea.
[16:01] <xyzwhatever> why not  I need some of these files
[16:01] <jhutchins> xyzwhatever: Then you should install a debian system with them.
[16:01] <xyzwhatever> ok :(
[16:02] <jhutchins> xyzwhatever: Mixing distributions breaks things.
[16:02] <prx> jhutchins, actually the <IP_ADDRESS> is already setup as the DNS on my router...
[16:02] <jhutchins> xyzwhatever: Remember my earlier warning about that site - it's not solid, well tested software.    Use the main repos.  Whatever you're trying to do, that's not the right way to do it.
[16:05] <jhutchins> xyzwhatever: They don't even have an x64 repository.
[16:05] <xyzwhatever> lol
[16:06] <michagogo|cloud> I have a question about packages in the Ubuntu repos and upgrades to said packages
[16:06] <xyzwhatever> i guess their repo suckss big hairy donkey balls then :D
[16:06] <IdleOne> xyzwhatever: keep it clean please
[16:06] <michagogo|cloud> Looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bitcoin&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[16:07] <michagogo|cloud> How come Raring only has version 0.8.1, while saucy and trusty have version 0.8.5?
[16:07] <IdleOne> michagogo|cloud: because the raring package hasn't been updated to that newer version
[16:08] <michagogo|cloud> Well, yes
[16:08] <michagogo|cloud> I mean, why hasn't it been?
[16:08] <k1l_> michagogo|cloud: there are no updates besides security patches and massive bug patches after a final release of ubuntu (of course there are some exceptions)
[16:08] <michagogo|cloud> Ah.
[16:08] <IdleOne> michagogo|cloud: you can ask the maintainer of that package on launchpad.net
[16:08] <k1l_> michagogo|cloud: raring loses support in end of january 2014.
[16:08] <IdleOne> they might consider it if it is deemed necessary
[16:09] <Obi-Wan-Shinobi> Hi guys. I have a htpc I built currently running xbmc off the main HD, but I would like to install ubuntu onto a usb drive and manually load it to do some testing. Is a persistant live environment the solution, or is it possible/better to actual install ubuntu to the usb drive?
[16:09] <ubuntu960> how can I add an imap email account on online accounts on unity like I can with gnome?
[16:09] <prx> jhutchins: hey, /etc/resolve.conf is empty, should i really be editing it?
[16:10] <daftykins> */etc/resolv.conf
[16:11] <daftykins> Obi-Wan-Shinobi: no real difference between installing it vs. making it persistent, do whatever works
[16:11] <te> prx: Well, you need a nameserver
[16:12] <te> prx: if you are unable to resolve domain names, you probably need to add a nameserver line to it.  You could use:  nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:12] <te> prx: ... but your router should have provided that infor for you, if the DHCP server is working properly.
[16:12] <daftykins> te: getting the filename wrong was probably more an indication of why it was empty :P
[16:12] <bindi> can I somehow play 2 channel audio to all channels?
[16:13] <tossaro> test
[16:13] <te> daftykins: /etc/resolv.conf  ?  Looks to me like you got it right.
[16:13] <daftykins> te: sure i did, but look at what prx said...
[16:14] <te> daftykins: Oh, I see.
[16:19] <DxN> Attempted to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a Dell inspiron 530.  I  can get it to install but once I actually login it appears that I have a video issue. The screen is pixilated about 80%, have attempted to re-install through usb and cd with no luck.
[16:20] <shams> hello friends, i suppose to make a swap file, by mistake i did a swap disk too. i want to remove the swap disk how do i do that, thanks. http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63836
[16:21] <prx> te: i am not unable to resolve domain names, its only the ones i recently changed their nameservers...  does adding 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' to the file is all i need to do?
[16:23] <shams> hello friends, i suppose to make a swap file, by mistake i did a swap disk too. i want to remove the swap disk how do i do that, thanks. http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63836
[16:23] <BluesKaj> DxN. drop to a virtual terminal , ctrl+alt +F1 - F6 ,login , then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , once finished do ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to the desktop
[16:23] <ikonia> shams: swapoff the partition and remove the partition
[16:24] <shams> ikonia,  i am very new to ubuntu could you write the command  what exactly I should i type in terminal. thanks.
[16:25] <ikonia> shams: use the gui if you are not happy in the terminal
[16:25] <te> shams: he just did.
[16:29] <hggdh> BluesKaj: may I suggest *always* running 'apt-get dist-upgrade' instead of just an 'apt-get upgrade'. a simple 'upgrade will not install new packages, or remove obsolete ones
[16:30] <jhutchins> hggdh: In practice, the main thing that full- or dist- upgrades do that plain upgrades do not is upgrade the kernel.
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> I do an updgrade, then dist-upgrade :)
[16:31] <jhutchins> hggdh: In the normal lifecycle of the stable release packages are not replaced with different packages.
[16:32] <hggdh> jhutchins: yes, most of the times, I agree. Quite difficult for a new depends to happen in stable, but it does happen (when, for example, a missing depends for a weak dependency was not set)
[16:34] <BluesKaj> hggdh. dist-upgrades are are more necessary when running a devel OS rather than a stable release IME
[16:34] <hggdh> indeed
[16:37] <prx> jhutchins: please help me out, I really need to resolve this, and its not really working out for me
[16:38] <prx> what about adding dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> to /etc/network/interface* ?
[16:38] <te> prx: What is the problem?
[16:38] <te> prx: Are you unable to resovle domain names?
[16:38] <prx> te: i am trying to add the <IP_ADDRESS> dns servers in the simplest way possible
[16:39] <te> prx: edit /etc/resolv.conf and add line   nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:39] <prx> te: i am able, but there are cached domains that i want to be resolved
[16:39] <prx> te: i did that, is there anything i need to restart or something?
[16:40] <te> prx: No, it just works.
[16:40] <te> prx: route -n   #What does that say?
[16:40] <te> prx: (What is your default gw?)
[16:41] <prx> <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:41] <te> prx: What is your IP?   ifconfig eth0
[16:41] <mar77i> hmm. I seem to have missed something and still running a 32 bit kernel.
[16:42] <asteroid> ciao
[16:42] <prx> te: u mean wlan.. as i'm on wifi, <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:42] <jon_davis> can some-one please help me install a program
[16:42] <prx> i've set it manually...
[16:42] <jon_davis> i need some one to remote me
[16:43] <te> prx: can you ping the your gateway router?  ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:43] <mar77i> jon_davis: there are 1770 people who will answer smart questions from you. though I'm not sure that's going to happen. :)
[16:43] <prx> te: yes of course
[16:43] <mar77i> *the remote part, I mean
[16:43] <prx> te: DNS works, its just that <IP_ADDRESS> is not the one resolving
[16:43] <te> prx: host av.com   #Does that show you any IPs?
[16:44] <prx> te: yes, <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:44] <te> prx: Are there any other nameserver lines in /etc/resolv.conf
[16:44] <ubuntu960> how can I add an imap email account on online accounts on unity like I can with gnome?
[16:44] <prx> te: can u type: host market-gurus.com
[16:44] <te> prx: Looks to me like you are resolvding domain names
[16:44] <jon_davis> i need to know how to upgrade a program calld cheese
[16:44] <prx> te: i told you i am
[16:45] <prx> te: i just need to resolve this cached one!$#@
[16:45] <te> market-gurus.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:45] <jon_davis> and i cant to do it by my self
[16:45] <prx> te: see, i get <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:45] <prx> te: i want to fix this.
[16:45] <te> prx: Maybe there is a proxy server you are going through?
[16:45] <prx> te: i know i can wait for tomorrow, but i want to fix it now
[16:45] <ubuntu960> jon_davis: go to the official site of the developer of your app and find the ubuntu ppa, install it and then update with software updater
[16:46] <prx> te: no, i am telling you, the address is cached, i need to change my DNS servers and then i will be able to get the correct ip
[16:46] <prx> te: when i use proxy, i can actually resolve it correctly
[16:46] <r0t3r> guys
[16:46] <te> prx: Change from __________?  To ______________?
[16:46] <jon_davis> i am on pepperment linux 4
[16:46] <r0t3r> gow can I reduce resolution below allowed one ?
[16:47] <te> prx: What country are you in?
[16:47] <ubuntu960> jon_davis: the process is the same
[16:47] <te> brb
[16:47] <prx> ok
[16:47] <hasan> hi
[16:47] <prx> dont understand why country matters :)
[16:47] <r0t3r> anyone ?
[16:47] <Guest45799> is there italian ubuntu channel?
[16:49] <shams> ikonia, that swap disk dose not show in GUI like Gparted, but when i do free -s it shows its there , http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63838
[16:50] <jennie> hello Walex here ?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> !it | Guest45799
[16:50] <ikonia> shams: please put the output of "swapon -s" in a pastebin please, and take a screen shot of your gui and put it online somewhere
[16:51] <gr33n7007h> prx, what does this resolve to: host market-gurus.com <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:51] <shams> both are here #ubuntu
[16:51] <shams> * ActionParsnip (~andy@ubuntu/member/actionparsnip) has joined #ubuntu
[16:51] <shams> * mynameisnotdave has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[16:52] <prx> gr33n7007h,  <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:52] <shams> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63838
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> shams: huh?
[16:53] <shams> sorry first time pasted wrong link. this one is the screen shot http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63838
[16:53] <ikonia> shams: look on sdb
[16:54] <ikonia> shams: there are no linux partitions on sda - change the menu on the drop down in the top right of the gui to sdb
[16:54] <asteroid> ciao
[16:55] <prx> gr33n7007h, means that my dns is not going through <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:56] <gr33n7007h> prx, yep
[16:57] <prx> gr33n7007h, should i set it as the DNS on my modem?
[16:57] <te> prx: I suppose it is possible you have a transparent proxy?
[16:58] <gr33n7007h> pry, try it, see what happens
[16:58] <ddd> any recommendations for a GUI twitter client? choqok keeps corrupting the server data
[16:59] <te> prx: Yea, most modems have a built in caching nameserver
[16:59] <ddd> i was going to use pdigin but mdpidgin doesn't correctly do oauth with the twitter PIN data
[16:59] <ddd> s/pdigin/pidgin/
[16:59] <prx> yey it worked :)
[17:00] <te> prx: So you can just change the nameserver line in /etc/resolv.conf (make sure it is the only one, or at least the first one).
[17:00] <te> prx: Ok good
[17:01] <prx> te: i did that and it didnt work, but changing it on the modem worked, actually on the router
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> ddd: gwibber....
[17:02] <ddd> thanks will search it out
[17:02] <te> prx: That is curious.  It has been my experience that what ever nameserver you put in /etc/resolv.conf is the one that is used.  (but that may not be the case if you have a transparent proxy, so, I dono).
[17:04] <prx> te and gr33n7007h  thanks for your help guys
[17:04] <prx> or gals
[17:05] <Walex> te: depends on which options you put in.
[17:05] <prx> ok now if anyone understands thunderbird, i need help :)
[17:05] <Walex> jennie: yes here.
[17:05] <knightshade> Hello
[17:06] <shams> ikonia, there is no other option at the top right of gui http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63839
[17:06] <te> Walex: true
[17:06] <dougl> how do I tell what libimobiledevice-utils package I have installed?
[17:06] <jennie> Walex: I have reinstalled everything , and printer is showing in ls /dev/usb
[17:06] <te> prx: Walex We can see what nameserver is really being used I think with nslookup
[17:06] <Kablam> hi guys im gonna install a machine for xbmc and im also gonna run rtorrent/rutorrent and samba on it any suggestions on wich version of ubuntu to use?? i want it boot straight up to xbmc dont need anything else?
[17:07] <jennie> sun@sun-desktop ~ $ ls /dev/usb/
[17:07] <jennie> lp0
[17:07] <asteroid> ciao
[17:07] <Walex> jennie: with GNU/LKinux systems reinstall is *almost* never needed.
[17:07] <ikonia> shams: is this a wubi install
[17:07] <te> nslookup av.com
[17:08] <Walex> jennie: to get back the '/dev/usb/lp0' almost surely a reboot was all that was needed, at most.
[17:08] <jennie> I tried rebooting and it didnt worked
[17:08] <jennie> so I had to reinstall
[17:08] <Walex> jennie: anyhow, you now have to reinstall and reconfigure the Canon driver...
[17:08] <jennie> ohh :-(
[17:09] <asteroid> italian
[17:09] <glitsj16> !it | asteroid
[17:10] <Walex> jennie: well if you reinstall what do you expect?
[17:10] <shams> ikonia, yes i have dual sys, window xp first then i installed ubuntu 12.04 from window .
[17:10] <asteroid> grazie
[17:11] <ikonia> shams: ok, I don't support wubi - but I wouldn't worry about the difference of a swap file or partition, as in wubi, they are both the same
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> shams: XP is dead on April 1st 2014 you know, just an FYI
[17:11] <knightshade> prx: I think that I can help you with thunderbird. Just ask your question.
[17:11] <jennie> Walex: please tell me again, I will fast
[17:12] <jennie> I will be fast*
[17:12] <glitsj16> shams: according to your http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=63838 paste you have 2 swap files if i read that correct
[17:12] <knightshade> jennie: which canon printer do you have?
[17:12] <shams> ActionParsnip, yes that is why i am trying to get familiar  with Linux , dont want any window any more .
[17:13] <shams> glitsj16, yes friend, i wanted to create a swap file not disk, but i did a swap disk too un knowingly now i want to delete that , dont know how.
[17:13] <jhutchins> jennie: What are you trying to do?
[17:13] <tigor> hello, I just added a facebook account on pidgin, but cannot enable the account. though I applied all settings given on ubuntu help pages
[17:14] <glitsj16> shams: where is the swap disk ? can't see it in your swapon -s .. are you sure?
[17:15] <jennie> knightshade: jhutchins MOdel of printer is CanonLBP2900B  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6556982/  is installation guide, I have downloaded drivers from here http://support-in.canon-asia.com/contents/IN/EN/0100459601.html which contains the guide I pasted and *.DEB files for installation
[17:15] <Walex> jennie:  form my history try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6556988/
[17:16] <jennie> yes Walex I repasted it but I have re install CUPS again too http://paste.ubuntu.com/6556982/
[17:16] <Ham98> HEy guys, for some reason Im not getting ANY radio staions in Rythmbox Im currently connected to the internet but no radio stations are loading  ANy ideas?
[17:17] <shams> glitsj16,  one sec, here , http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=63840
[17:18] <te> shams: As we see from the screenshot, you are using a swap file, (not swap partition).
[17:19] <glitsj16> shams: well, they both have the type 'file', if you had a swap disk that would show as type 'partition' .. that's why i asked whether you actually have a swap disk
[17:20] <jennie> Walex: I did sun@sun-desktop ~ $ sudo apt-get install cups
[17:20] <glitsj16> shams: could you paste your /etc/fstab please? just to confirm
[17:20] <te> shams: pastebinit /etc/fstab  #Send resulting URL here
[17:21] <te> shams: We could also have a look at your partitions:
[17:21] <jon__> jennie asl
[17:21] <te> shams: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[17:21] <glitsj16> te: could you guide shams with this? gotta mind my cats for a few minutes ..
[17:22] <te> glitsj16: Ok
[17:22] <glitsj16> te: cheers
[17:22] <Ham98> For some reason Im not getting ANY radio stations in Rythmbox Im currently connected to the internet but no radio stations are loading  ANy ideas?
[17:22] <IsmAvatar> Hey guys, I just updated, which included an ubuntu update, and it broke the Flash plugin. I tried downloading the latest from their website but it only seems to let me download a .RPM
[17:22] <IsmAvatar> er
[17:23] <IsmAvatar> included a firefox update*
[17:23] <te> IsmAvatar: Just get the generic one, unpack and move libflashplayer.so to /var/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[17:24] <te> IsmAvatar: sorry, it's  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[17:25] <te> IsmAvatar: What kind of update was it?
[17:25] <te> IsmAvatar: (update for ________?)
[17:25] <shams> te, i see, so is that ok living that the way it is , http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63842
[17:25] <jon__> any linux females in here
[17:26] <k1l_> jon__: this is not a dating channel. please stick to ubuntu support in here. for regular chatting we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:27] <te> shams: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:27] <compdoc> Ive yet to see any person, male or female, that is an operating system
[17:28] <Walex> jennie: so which point have got to, out of curiosity?
[17:29] <IsmAvatar> te: It was just the update manager running, which updated Google Crome and Firefox
[17:29] <jennie> I just installed CUPS
[17:29] <Walex> jennie: then continue with the rest...
[17:29] <Walex> jennie: in the paste that I linked to...
[17:29] <jennie> ok Walex
[17:29] <shams> te, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557033/
[17:30] <te> shams: Is your Ubuntu install wubi?
[17:31] <te> shams: (I must assume it is wubi because you have no Linux partitions.)
[17:31] <shams> te, yes i installed it from window, if that is called wubi :)
[17:32] <te> shams: Ok. Yea.  That is it "wubi".
[17:32] <te> shams: So, what is the problem you are really trying to install?
[17:32] <shams> te, ok i am using dual boot sys.
[17:32] <te> shams: And.... ?
[17:33] <te> shams: (not sure I understand what you are tying to do, or what problem you are trying to solve)
[17:33] <shams> te, i was trying to use swap file because inspit of having 4gh i am crashing on rendering blender scene which i should not its such a small scene. shows i am running out of memory.
[17:33] <shams> te, so i tried to use swap file.
[17:33] <jennie> Walex: please look http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557049/
[17:33] <shams> te, but accidentally i created one swap disk too.
[17:34] <Walex> jennie: that's fine, '/dev/usb/lp0' is the right device name then.
[17:34] <jennie> should I run next command then ?
[17:34] <shams> te, i just want to remove that swap disk which i created. beside a swapfile.
[17:34] <te> shams: My advice to you is to do a regular Ubuntu install.
[17:34] <Walex> jennie: yes.
[17:35] <shams> te, can it be done while having dual boot sys ?
[17:35] <matt____1> D/aryl
[17:35] <jennie> Walex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557064/
[17:35] <shams> te, if yes then how , you mean i should creat one installation disk and boot from it ?
[17:36] <te> shams: You have not created a swap partition, (you only made space for one), so what you have is some free space, (about 10G if I remember correctly).
[17:36] <shams> te, yes
[17:36] <Bodsda> soutar
[17:37] <yxs_> ?
[17:38] <te> shams: Best thing to do is resize sda5, (shrink it down to about half it's size, or maybe even less), and then boot the Ubuntu install media and do a regular ubuntu install. BUT, I understand that wubi has provisions for doing a regular install from it's own interface, (I've not used wubi so I can not speak from experience).
[17:38] <IsmAvatar> te: Ok, I've done what you said and copied over the .so file, but it's still crashing
[17:39] <shams> te, i guess i should install a regular one as you suggested, but i want to keep the window too for the moment. it saves me from the nightmare because of new to Linux, and can i restore my backup after a regular installation ?
[17:39] <te> shams: I'm seeing http://askubuntu.com/questions/635/how-to-convert-wubi-install-into-regular-install
[17:39] <Walex> jennie: put in "libglade2-0" instead
[17:39] <jennie> Walex: what to do about this ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557064/
[17:40] <te> IsmAvatar: Do you have chrome or chromium?
[17:40] <jennie> ok Walex it is downloading
[17:40] <mernilio> Hi all! :-)
[17:40] <shams> te, cool, i will go there now :) thank you te
[17:41] <IsmAvatar> te: I have chromium, but the plugin is crashing in firefox.
[17:41] <mernilio> I dont know, but im banned from "ubuntu-offtopic" .. how is that possible?
[17:41] <Walex> mernilio: address matches a ban mask
[17:41] <hitsujiTMO> mernilio: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[17:41] <mernilio> Walex: hmm.. speak english.. i dont know what a ban mask is?
[17:42] <mernilio> hitsujiTMO: oki
[17:42] <mernilio> thanks
[17:42] <te> shams: You might look at a couple of the others that google came up with:  http://www.bing.com/search?q=convert%20wubi%20to%20full%20install&pc=conduit&ptag=AED4AAE9050EC422EA3F&form=CONBNT&conlogo=CT3210127
[17:42] <IsmAvatar> te: I've just tried in Chromium and it crashes there as well.
[17:42] <te> IsmAvatar: Sometimes it complains that it needs an update but will work anyway.
[17:42] <te> IsmAvatar: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[17:43] <IsmAvatar> te: nope. It just stopped responding and then Chromium said that the page died.
[17:43] <IsmAvatar> te: 13.10
[17:43] <te> IsmAvatar: what page are you trying to view?
[17:43] <IsmAvatar> te: any youtube video
[17:43] <te> IsmAvatar: I'm a LTS user.
[17:44] <shams> te, you said i should shrink it down, but i need more space for Linux, can i install more software and run big programs even if the Ubuntu installation disk size is small, i guess i will have to setup home directory to another partition i guess , right ?
[17:44] <te> IsmAvatar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[17:45] <te> shams: You'll need more that 10G for sure.
[17:45] <IsmAvatar> te: says flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[17:45] <te> shams: Set asside free space, just shrink sda5 more, (a lot more).
[17:45] <kostkon> IsmAvatar, reinstall the package
[17:46] <te> shams: Set asisde 100G or more (since your HD is 500G, I would say 200G or 250G  if you can spare it).
[17:47] <te> shams: If you turn out to be like most of the rest of us, you'll find that you mostly end up using Linux.
[17:47] <IsmAvatar> kostkon: resintalled the package. Same crash.
[17:48] <te> IsmAvatar: You might try dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-installer
[17:48] <shams> te, ok so here is what i understand, keep 250G aside, and maybe 1g another side, and the Linux i will install on 1g where my other data will be on the other side 250 G , did i understand right . ?
[17:48] <quinman22> does anyone know why the grub2 conf files are prefixed with numbers? What is the significance behind them if any?
[17:48] <te> IsmAvatar: sudo dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-installer
[17:50] <shams> te, so 10G + 250 Total 260 for Linux , right ?
[17:50] <te> shams: All I said was;  To make free space for the Linux install, shrink sda5 so that you have about 200-250G free space, (unallocated), and you can install Linux on that free or "unallocated" space.
[17:51] <IsmAvatar> te: it asks me for the directory of the file, so I tell it "/home/ismavatar/Downloads" where the file is located and it says it can't find it there.
[17:51] <shams> te, ok i got it now.
[17:52] <te> shams: Forget the 10G, (10G is what you have now, (unallocated), you want more, so shrink sda5 so that you have 100 or 200 or 250G of free space (unallocated).
[17:52] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> Hi, Empathy doesn´t connect to MSN hotmail account, any suggestions ? (using Lucid Lynx)
[17:52] <IsmAvatar> te: just left it blank and it seems to have done its thing
[17:52] <IsmAvatar> te: still crashing
[17:52] <shams> ok
[17:53] <te> IsmAvatar: "it asks" ?  (Who is "it"?)
[17:53] <IsmAvatar> dpkg-reconfigure has a prompt
[17:53] <glitsj16> quinman22: the logic behind that is explained in the README in the same directory
[17:53] <Walex> jennie: so it should be finished now...
[17:53] <jsm> is there a way to fork a PPA?
[17:54] <jennie> Walex: it is unpacking
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: Lucid is no longer supported on the desktop. It is only supported on the server
[17:56] <te> IsmAvatar: You may need to just uninstall flashplayer and start over
[17:56] <Walex> jennie: that must be a very very slow system.
[17:57] <jennie> the internet was slow , now it is setting up lib* files
[17:57] <te> IsmAvatar: With what, I dono.  Flashplayer is just a problem. (I use LTS and don't seem to have a problem.... yet...).
[17:57] <Capprentice> Install Google Chrome.
[17:58] <hid> Never install chrome
[17:58] <Capprentice> Google Chrome comes with its own version of Chrome !
[17:58] <Capprentice> I mean Flash
[17:58] <Capprentice> :P
[17:58] <te> Capprentice: You mean... yea
[17:59] <IsmAvatar> te: yeah, I haven't had many issues with it up until today's update to firefox
[18:00] <te> IsmAvatar: I suppose you could revert to the older version of firefox
[18:00] <te> IsmAvatar: But you'd have to install it manually, not that hard but...
[18:00] <Capprentice> Install Seamonkey then.
[18:00] <te> IsmAvatar: And I don't even know if that would fix it, but might.
[18:00] <Capprentice> Seamonkey is based on Firefox !
[18:00] <te> Yea, there is also Seamonkey.
[18:01] <te> Capprentice: Actually, it is the other way around.
[18:01] <te> Capprentice: Netscape became Mozilla which became Seamonkey.
[18:01] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> ActionParsnip, is one smart Guy, tells me to upgrade, and buy a software+documentation bundle in Ubuntu Store--- 10 million dollars can´t do it...
[18:01] <te> afaik
[18:02] <te> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: Geting some good free advise?
[18:03] <jennie> Walex: sudo lpstat -a sun@sun-desktop ~/Desktop/Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_uk_EN/64-bit_Driver/Debian $ sudo lpstat -a       lpstat: No destinations added.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: Ubuntu is free
[18:04] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> te, there is no knowledge... , in Ubuntu rooms..
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: there is, your release isnt supported
[18:05] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> yeah, you tell me to upgrade ?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: call Microsoft for support with Window 2000, ask for support. What will happen?
[18:05] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> Action ?
[18:05] <te> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: What version do you have installed?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: if you want support from the community and package upgrades, yes
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: the OS willrun forever but its not supported naywhere
[18:06] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> never mind, sorry for disturbing...
[18:06] <jacko4323> hello all I have an Ubunto Workstation that is used for a backup drive. Every once in a while it will lockup. I can ping it but nothing else. I would like to run a file system check but im new to linux. Can someone tell me the command to run i know its fsck but what switches do i use
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: so, lots of knowledge in here
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: just because your release is dead doesnt mean we dont know
[18:07] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> yup, you are right ActionParsnip...
[18:07] <xangua> !eol | Lucid_Lynx_LTS
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> jacko4323: you'll want to fsck in liveCD, or have the partition you are checking unmounted
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: you can upgrade to Precise in one jump as it is LTS to LTS upgrade
[18:07] <jacko4323> ok i am connected remotely to this machine via vnc is there anything i can do remotely.
[18:08] <mernilio> Hi all.. its stupid but its to slippery for me to go outside.. I sound like a old man but its really difficult.
[18:08] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> thank you very much for your advise, ActionParsnip ^, i remember this kind of advice from years ago, nothing ever changed in your attitude...
[18:08] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> nvm.., bye
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: its channel policy
[18:10] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> I don´t try to argue anymore..., ActionParsnip.., its like grasping a hand full of water...
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: its simple, if you are using a supported release you are supported here. When the release dies you are not. If you upgrade or install Precise you will get full support and updates ytil April 2017
[18:12] <Walex> jennie: I'll be back in an hour or two
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: to actually answer your question. The version of empathy you are running most likely does not support the current protocol. you will need to upgrade the OS to get a version of empathy that does support it ( Considering that it was changed to Windows Live)
[18:12] <Walex> jennie: that is because the server is not stated yet IIRC
[18:13] <jennie> Walex: so what to do now ?
[18:13] <jennie> next command ?
[18:15] <armenb> hello
[18:15] <quinman22> glitsj16: not sure why i didn't check, thank you
[18:16] <armenb> Is there a repository on the web that points to 12.04.2 LTS?
[18:16] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> I have to drink it..., but who will tell me ? , i might die in the intent to bath in water, instead of drinking it, not knowing that it is for drinking .., thanks for trying
[18:16] <glitsj16> quinman22: easily overlooked, you're welcome
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> armenb: they all do
[18:16] <armenb> I have reason to believe that a change was made in the current version of some package in 12.04.3 LTS, and it's breaking functionality.  I'd really like to go back to 12.04.2 LTS, if for nothing else than to systematically figure out what the problem is
[18:17] <armenb> right now I can download 12.04.2 LTS iso and install it, but when I need to install some packages not on the ISO, I get newer 12.04.3 LTS packages and their deps.  I'd really like to peg the repo to some date in the past.  Does this functionality exist?
[18:19] <compdoc> they seem to force you to upgrade the packages to keep you safe. damn them!
[18:19] <armenb> so I'm not damning anybody
[18:19] <DJones> !pinning | armenb
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> armenb: what packages in particular are you having a problem with?
[18:20] <armenb> that is an excellent question: I am not sure.
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> armenb: whats breaking?
[18:20] <armenb> somewhere in ssl/tls/dtls
[18:20] <armenb> I can't set up webrtc sessions: dtls negotiation is failing with chrome browsers
[18:21] <armenb> it used to work fine, and does on systems that we haven't apt-get dist-upgraded in a Really Long Time
[18:21] <armenb> (circa 12.04.2 LTS timeframe)
[18:21] <armenb> brb, bus
[18:22] <armenb> more lke bbiab
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> armenb: have you looked at a wireshark trace?
[18:28] <bindi> can I somehow play 2 channel audio to all channels?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> bindi: i thought that was default
[18:30] <bindi> ActionParsnip: not in 12.04 anyway
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> bindi: hence the Q and E controlls in alsamixer
[18:31] <bindi> I am using optical, alsamixer doesnt do anything on any of the controls
[18:31] <bindi> forgot to mention that :p
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> bindi: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[18:31] <bindi> ill get to you in a moment, gotta brb quickly, sorry :p
[18:37] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone I am trying to build a kernel and I'm getting this error during build, "install: cannot change owner and permissions of ‘/home/ripthejacker/builds/linux-3.11.0/debian/linux-image-3.11.7-11-12-13/etc/kernel/postinst.d’: Operation not permitted
[18:39] <ripthejacker> what can be the problem
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> ripthejacker: tip: there's also #ubuntu-kernel
[18:40] <bindi> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6ff6b5be0e5d63c39a0e2213d10498dc550a392f
[18:41] <ripthejacker> MonkeyDust: Thanks, but if nobody responds there, can I come back and ask here?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> bindi: have you ran the large command in step 1 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[18:42] <bindi> ActionParsnip: no, what does it do?
[18:42] <bindi> my sound works otherwise
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> bindi: updates Alsa to a newer version
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> !away > dean|away
[18:47] <tirengarfio> I have an external disk, when I connect it, it is shown in Disks utility, but then it dissapear, I have just bought it
[18:48] <LyzardKing> does anyone know where I can find the acpi handler=
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> tirengarfio: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[18:48] <LyzardKing> it whould be in /etc/acpi/handler.sh
[18:48] <tirengarfio> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l ActionParsnip
[18:48] <ggherdov> Hello, what was the trick to watch mms:// videos on ubuntu (aka MS Silverlight) ?
[18:48] <ggherdov> One part of me says "moonlight" http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight , but the other me screams "how do I install it on ubuntu" -- any hint?
[18:49] <Pici> ggherdov: I thought VLC could play mms streams...
[18:49] <DJones> ggherdov: I think the moonlight project had been dropped
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> ggherdov: mms will play in VLC too, its just a media stream and not specifically silverlight
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> DJones: it has, the sooner it crawls aeway the better :)
[18:50] <tirengarfio> ActionParsnip, any idea?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> tirengarfio: have you used it in any other systems?
[18:51] <ggherdov> Pici: ActionParsnip: thanks. ok, I was ahead of myself. What I have is indeed a webpage saying "go get silverlight". I *suppose* that somewhere hidden there is a mms:// URL, but the easiest way for me would be to have that page to... just work.
[18:51] <tirengarfio> No
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> tirengarfio: does the partition show in gparted?
[18:52] <ggherdov> BTW, yes it has been dropped. I remember the announcement somwhere signed by Miguel De Icaza or his team
[18:52]  * ggherdov wait, probably... even Silverlight has been dropped.
[18:52] <tirengarfio> the disk is shown in gparted yes
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> tirengarfio: then format it to Ext4 and Enjoy. If you need to use it in Windows then connect it to a Windows PC and format it to NTFS
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> tirengarfio: remember to use the safe remove feature BEFORE unplugging for significantly fewer issues
[18:57] <tirengarfio> ActionParsnip, I have run gparted and then choose the external disk, and then create partition table, and it says: "Warning: This will erase all data on the entire disk /dev/sdb" Default is to create a ms-dos partition table. There is a select with this options: "msdos, aix, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, pc98, sun and loop", should I apply or choose an option different from ms-dos?
[19:03] <vmuser> where is remmina log?
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> vmuser: try     locate remmina | less       to find out
[19:05] <luca> ciao
[19:06] <vmuser> MonkeyDust, nothing there
[19:09] <pngl> What is the shortcut for showing the fullscreen terminals? I think it is something-F6, F7, ..., but I don't remember the name of those terminals so I can't google it
[19:09] <Pici> pngl: ctrl-alt-F# use F7 to get back to X
[19:10] <Pici> pngl: where # is a number
[19:10] <pngl> Pici: thanks. What is the name of the feature (in case I forget it again) ?
[19:10] <Pici> pngl: ttys
[19:10] <pngl> Pici: thank you!
[19:12] <SwashBuckla> hi there. I can log in to all other accounts  but my own on my Ubuntu 12.04 system. I initially thought it was a password problem, but no, I can sudo su into the account from another. It's only GUI login that doesn't work. By "doesn't work" I mean "Authenticates the login and then presents a black screen for a few seconds, and then returns me to the login screen"
[19:13] <mikodo> To practice and be able to follow online directions, can Minimal CD's be installed in VirtualBox? My one computer won't boot from usb, BIOS does not support it. I guess I could use Plop
[19:13] <SwashBuckla> let's call the malfunctioning admin account foo, while I can log into admin accounts bar, baz, and Guest account
[19:13] <Pici> mikodo: yes, vbox can boot from iso images.
[19:13] <SwashBuckla> I can log into foo from bar and baz
[19:14] <mikodo> Pici, Great! Thank you.
[19:16] <Actionparsnip> Has the lag lessened?
[19:17] <SwashBuckla> any ideas as to the problem?
[19:17] <SwashBuckla> some diagnostic commands so that I can help myself would be appreciated
[19:17] <SwashBuckla> lightdm is functioning okay
[19:17] <SwashBuckla> as is fglrx
[19:18] <SwashBuckla> no, sorry, not fglrx, I'm just using the open source driver
[19:27] <urielvigilant> To install lubuntu-fake-pae is the same way as any other Lubunyu doesnt ? download iso here http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu-fake-pae/ then burn iso on DVD or USB and then test and them install ?
[19:29] <urielvigilant> I think acer 3003 wmli dont run Lubuntu up then 12.04 because it dont have PAE. AMD Mobile Sempron 3100+ does it have PAE ?
[19:30] <michagogo|cloud> Question: I've read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[19:30] <gordonjcp> urielvigilant: install from the mini iso
[19:30] <michagogo|cloud> Does that policy also forbid the removal of a package from older releases?
[19:31] <michagogo|cloud> (specifically, a package in the Universe, not Main or Restricted)
[19:33] <zorin> I need MITM help
[19:34] <urielvigilant> gordonjcp : ive been reading this explanation, and it seems to be something to experienced people install doesn it , the mini iso ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE#Method_to_start_from_the_Ubuntu_12.04_non-PAE_mini-iso_file_described_by_m.2BAPY-rg.2BAOY-s
[19:35] <gordonjcp> urielvigilant: depends
[19:35] <urielvigilant> gordonjcp : i dont do minimum idea about this ---- Disadavantages " from same webpage " : You need to install fake-pae using 7bit's ppa after the installation
[19:36] <Mongo44> When I am downloading a package what do I do with the key fingerprint?
[19:36] <urielvigilant> gordonjcp what it is it 7bitsś ppa ?
[19:36] <gordonjcp> urielvigilant: pretty sure that mini doesn't require PAE
[19:37] <urielvigilant> gordonjcp : what are the mais disadvantages of te solution 3 . . . that one i come here to ask about it ?
[19:38] <urielvigilant> gordonjcp : what are the disadvantages of this one Lubuntu 13.04 Fake-PAE ?
[19:38] <gordonjcp> no idea, never tried it
[19:38] <urielvigilant> seems ease to install doens it ?
[19:39] <urielvigilant> just burn to cd or usb pen drive doens it ?
[19:39] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: its quite messy. I had to help someone fix a lot of issues with it
[19:40] <acidhax> Did something happen to Ubuntu recently that caused my wifi to go about 1,000bytes per second?
[19:41] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO : do you meand with this Lubuntu 13.04 Fake-PAE ?
[19:41] <acidhax> I've disabled ipv6, i've installed wircd and still slow as hell.. I'm on an RTL adapter.
[19:41] <acidhax> wircd/wicd
[19:41] <subz3r0> yep, new ubuntu versions are located in a metal fling cabinet...
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant:Yes.  for some reason that lubuntu fake pae doens't install this patch: https://launchpad.net/~prof7bit/+archive/fake-pae which its actually based on.
[19:42] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: its an image made using the patch but doesn't have the patch installed.
[19:42] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO : so the solution will be mini iso doesn it ?
[19:43] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: if you can boot a non pae kernel you could do a debootstrap install and also install https://launchpad.net/~prof7bit/+archive/fake-pae
[19:43] <zorin> does anybody know about man in the middle with ubuntu?
[19:44] <acidhax> Any idea why my wifi has suddenly shit the bed?
[19:45] <subz3r0> zorin: a man in the middle is. when e.g someone is between you and your boy/girl-friend. "in the middle"..
[19:45] <subz3r0> also called sandwich
[19:45] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO : i dont have idea what that it is !
[19:45] <ses1984> hi, i'm trying to do a favor for friend to clean his computer from malware, but it's been so long since i've had to do that, i'm not sure what software works for that these days, especially on linux
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[19:46] <subz3r0> acidhax: do you really expect an answer on a such unspecific question?
[19:46] <ses1984> is there a malware removal tool that will scan for virsuses and such, and in addition to that, spyware/adware that would normally be covered by tools like spybot, malwarebytes, etc?
[19:46] <acidhax> subz3r0: Yesterday: Internet good. Today: internet bad.
[19:46] <xangua> !virus | ses1984
[19:46] <subz3r0> acidhax: so go figure it out yourself
[19:46] <acidhax> go die
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> ses1984: for malware/virus/rootkit or any of the like, i'll always recommend a clean install
[19:47] <subz3r0> acidhax: get a brain, retard.
[19:47] <acidhax> still, go die
[19:47] <acidhax> or stfu and help, your choice
[19:47] <ses1984> hitsujiTMO: well, even if i do perform a clean install, he had a backup drive connected to the live system that he's going to want to start restoring stuff from right away, so i still need to scan that
[19:48] <subz3r0> acidhax: i dont help any brainfucked scumbags. got it? fine!
[19:48] <IdleOne> hey, that is about enough from both of you
[19:48] <nightmare365> Hi my unity-launcher is behaving wierdly
[19:48] <IdleOne> !guidelines | subz3r0 acidhax
[19:48] <gordonjcp> !attitude | acidhax
[19:49] <gordonjcp> !language | subz3r0
[19:49] <nightmare365> The unlock from launcher isn't working
[19:49] <nightmare365> And I can't rearrange the icons
[19:50] <acidhax> sorry, subz3r0, i love you.
[19:50] <nightmare365> And I have restarted a few times
[19:50] <n008> must all containers share same Os?
[19:51] <n008> unlike an Hypervisor where different os sits on same machine?
[19:51] <nightmare365> Resetting compiz and unity icons doesn't help
[19:51] <subz3r0> n008: i dont get the pont?
[19:51] <subz3r0> point
[19:51] <michagogo|cloud> !precise
[19:51] <michagogo|cloud> !lts
[19:51] <subz3r0> n008: containers for what?
[19:51] <michagogo|cloud> So Precise is supported until April 2017?
[19:51] <n008> subz3r0: for vertualization
[19:52] <hedonismbot_> t
[19:52] <nightmare365> Was trying to enable the hibernate option and now I have a broken desktop :(
[19:52] <jfreak53> .
[19:52] <n008> subz3r0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LXC
[19:52] <subz3r0> n008: you can setup a container for every os you install in most virtualisation software
[19:53] <n008> can multiple Os seat within a container?
[19:53] <hedonismbot_> Every time I try to connect to openvpn i get "invalid VPN secrets". I'm using 12.04 LTS
[19:53] <subz3r0> n008: ahh... LCX... thought youre talking about vmware, virtualbox ...
[19:53] <subz3r0> never worked with lcx. so no idea
[19:54] <jond> Does anybody know any replacement for cheese for peperment linux 4
[19:54] <subz3r0> n008: did you read: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxc.html
[19:54] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO i need an alternative solution after aprill , when Lubuntu 12.04 will not have more support . I heard about bohdi linux, but this computer is of friend of mine, iam newby and he is more then newbyy! his computer acer 3003 wmli dont work with lubuntu 12.10 nether 13.04 nether 13.10 , i think its because amd sempron  doenst have PAE
[19:55] <Bower> i experienced some server issues and the short of it is that i have a file owned by "1066" which i cannot remove even as root. any way around this?
[19:56] <bindi> Actionparsnip1: did the long command (alsa), what now?
[19:56] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO i need something simple like just burn to DVD or creat a USB pen drive persistent to test then full install dual boot because he have windows on it
[19:57] <MonkeyDust_> !usb | urielvigilant
[19:57] <bindi> Actionparsnip1: no sound at all, for starters :P
[19:57] <urielvigilant> !usb
[19:57] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: if its the case that you don't have PAE at all then you will need to use a custom kernel that has non-PAE support. you could try an older mainline or current mainline if that does have pae support but again would involve a debootstrap install
[19:57] <bindi> Actionparsnip1: woops, wrong output, fixed that part
[19:58] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO  what it is a debootstrap install and how to do it ?
[19:58] <jond> what is the best video editing for linux pepperment 4 os
[19:58] <urielvigilant> !debootstrap
[19:58] <profligacy> That may have been the older version.
[19:58] <profligacy> What about the newest version of the softrware, though?
[19:58] <profligacy> *software
[19:58] <subz3r0> Bower: i dont remember exactly but there are different flags you can set. not just SUID, SGID and Sticky... so you wont be able to delete it. even as root... maybe anyone else here knows em
[19:58] <profligacy> Are there any updates for it?
[19:59] <profligacy> I think they said that they were going to come out with a fix mid-December.
[19:59] <jond> hello i have ask yall?s
[19:59] <profligacy> If I remember correctly.
[20:00] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO  it have  Lubuntu 12.04  dual boot with windows XP . How to do a debootstrap on it ?
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: it's effective a manual install. Here's a decent video guide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiM9GOKvTI4   with that you could simply install any kernel you choose
[20:00] <jond> video editing for linux
[20:00] <Bower> thanks subz3r0. it's not a major issue, just a minor annoyance
[20:00] <bindi> Actionparsnip1: i need alsa to upmix to all channels
[20:01] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: if you want a simple approach then you'll best find an alternative distribution
[20:01] <jond> can some-one help me
[20:02] <jond> video editing for linux
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> jond: try ##linux
[20:02] <jond> what is the best one
[20:02] <MonkeyDust_> jond: best depends on what you prefer
[20:03] <urielvigilant> histujiTMO
[20:03] <urielvigilant> histujiTMO thanks for all
[20:03] <jond> am on peperment os 4
[20:04] <MonkeyDust_> jond: better aks in their own channel, it's not supported here
[20:05] <urielvigilant> Its to much dangerous stay with  Lubuntu 12.04 after april on it ?
[20:05] <MonkeyDust_> urielvigilant: dangerous?
[20:05] <MonkeyDust_> urielvigilant: 12.04 is supported until 2017
[20:06] <gigus> salve a tutti
[20:06] <hitsujiTMO> MonkeyDust_: Lubuntu is 12.04 is not LTS tho
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: i wouldn't consider it crazy dangerous to stay but you might start running into issues after a while
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: most of the saoftware will still receive security updates. main issue will be with the DE
[20:09] <mustmodify> I have ubuntu set up with SFTP... chrooted accounts for vendors. And I get a question from them "What is name of SFTP Client software that will be hosting the connection?" ..... is "Ubuntu" too much of a smart-ass answer?
[20:10] <jond> Peppermint Linux OS is a cloud-centric OS based on Lubuntu, a derivative of the Ubuntu Linux operating system that uses the LXDE desktop environment.[1]
[20:10] <jond> can some-one just help me out
[20:10] <Pici> jond: And it is not supported here.
[20:10] <Pici> jond: Please ask in ##linux, which exists for this sort of thing.
[20:11] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO what  it is DE ?
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> mustmodify: what package did you install for sftp support? openssh-server?
[20:11] <michagogo|cloud> Do packages ever get pulled out of the Ubuntu repositories? If so, under what circumstances?
[20:12] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: desktop environment. in your case LXDE
[20:12] <Quest> how to mount an .iso or dvd image to a dvd virtual partiton so that I can use it just like a dvd inserted?
[20:12] <jond> @drmanhattan
[20:12] <jond> pm me
[20:13] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO could be  a solution try  install Ubuntu environment desktop on this lubuntu ?
[20:13] <jond> i may need yr help better than some people on here
[20:13] <gordonjcp> Quest: mount -o loop thing.iso /path/to/mountpoint
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> !loop | Quest
[20:13] <SwashBuckla> hi there. I can log in to all other accounts  but my own on my Ubuntu 12.04 system. I initially thought it was a password problem, but no, I can sudo su into the account from another. It's only GUI login that doesn't work. By "doesn't work" I mean "Authenticates the login and then presents a black screen for a few seconds, and then returns me to the login screen"
[20:15] <leptone> why am i getting these errors
[20:15] <leptone> ?
[20:15] <leptone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557764/
[20:16] <Pici> michagogo|cloud: Not in the middle of a release, but if something gets deprecated then it will be removed from the next release and there will be a note left on the publishing history. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ircii-pana/+publishinghistory for example.
[20:16] <michagogo|cloud> Pici: I found out that #ubuntu-motu exists, which I suspect is more relevant in this case
[20:16] <hitsujiTMO> SwashBuckla: dod you go playing around with compiz fusion config? or try to launch X apps with sudo?     can you pastebin the output of /home/yourusername/.xsession-errors
[20:19] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: i'd stay with the lxde DE if I were you. Wait till you start actually having problems before swapping DEs. For a supported alternative there's also Xubuntu/XFCE
[20:20] <leptone> following this article do i need to replace the "Section "Device"" bit that is already in the file. or do i just add it?
[20:20] <leptone> http://linuxg.net/fix-slow-graphics-performance-on-ubuntu-13-04-intel-gpu/
[20:23] <Quest> gordonjcp,  hitsujiTMO  i did mount -o loop but it didnt showed up in virtualbox cdrom boot options
[20:24] <Beldar> leptone, You have /etc/X11/xorg.conf as of now?
[20:24] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO , thanks
[20:25] <leptone> beldar. i have?
[20:25] <leptone> i just followed the article
[20:25] <Beldar> leptone, Check if you have one, this is not included I believe on installs?
[20:25] <leptone> yeah but the first thing is to creat one
[20:25] <leptone> first step in the article
[20:26] <gordonjcp> Quest: oh, in virtualbox?  That's got its own stuff for dealing with virtual disks
[20:26] <Beldar> leptone, exactly and paste that data there, you familiar with chrooting from a live cd if you have a problem?
[20:26] <npm> excellent marketing: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/10/you-know-ubuntu-as-an-operating-system-mandela-knew-it-as-his-lifes-mission/
[20:26] <leptone> i commented out  the original "Section "Device"" part
[20:26] <xangua> !ot | npm
[20:27] <leptone> Beldar, i get that you paste it in
[20:27] <leptone> but
[20:27] <Quest> gordonjcp,  ok
[20:27] <Quest> let me see
[20:28] <Beldar> leptone, If you create it, it is empty, you would paste that info in  and save. Again are you familiar with chrooting?
[20:28] <leptone> no
[20:29] <leptone> this is what it contained originally
[20:29] <leptone> Beldar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557842/
[20:29] <waterbender> hi
[20:29] <leptone> beldar, this is what i changed it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557849/
[20:30] <Beldar> leptone, You have nvidia that is not intel, is this a optimus?
[20:30] <idontgiveafutch> Hi guys!
[20:30] <leptone> huh?
[20:30] <leptone> is what an optimus
[20:30] <leptone> ?
[20:30] <idontgiveafutch> Moodle question: Someone knows how to create meta courses?
[20:30] <leptone> my computer is an intel pc
[20:30] <Beldar> leptone, That article and change is specific in what hardware.
[20:31] <leptone> are u asking me a question?
[20:31] <mustmodify> hitsujiTMO: yes, I used OpenSSH Daemon
[20:31] <leptone> beldar, im pretty confused can you do this in baby steps plz
[20:31] <waterbender> i need help
[20:32] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender can I help you?
[20:33] <leptone> Beldar, you still there?
[20:33] <waterbender> im new and need help installing stuff on xubuntu
[20:33] <Beldar> leptone, I would just confirm you have an Intel GPU. Others will probably be better here, the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is important in asking here is all.
[20:33] <MonkeyDust_> waterbender: let's hear it
[20:33] <clinikpc> 1
[20:34] <Guest88658> How do I know what's wrong with a 525A media center? (it has 8 USB ports, a mic and headphone jacks and memory card slots with a SATA port
[20:34] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender ok. What?
[20:34] <leptone> beldar, i really dont know what anyof this means. can you help me understand what you are talking about plz
[20:34] <Beldar> leptone, You gotta learn some patience here, an answer not within a minute does not mean much. ;)
[20:34] <waterbender> it says i need to upgrade my flash player and i have no sound
[20:34] <Guest88658> I did a lsusb, and it seems to me that it says that it recognizes the item, but nothing from the media center
[20:35] <leptone> beldar, im sry what does that mean. an answer that can be given in one minute isnt a very good answer?
[20:35] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender whats the problem with upgrade
[20:35] <idontgiveafutch> ?
[20:35] <Beldar> leptone, What I'm saying #1 I'm not your best help. #2 the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is important. #3 the link says a specific gpu.
[20:36] <MonkeyDust_> waterbender  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:36] <Guest88658> any ideas / suggestions?