[08:08] <matt0507> ok i typed in gimp and all these plugins showed up. how can i tell what the actually install is?
[08:08] <ForgeAus> yes xpaint even
[08:08] <ForgeAus> the actual install should be just gimp itself, but yeah there is lotsa plugins for it
[08:09] <Jasen> OMG dependancies....
[08:09] <ForgeAus> unfortunately gimp is GTK-based rather than QT based
[08:09] <ForgeAus> koffice has at least 2 graphic apps in it...
[08:10] <Agent_bob> Jasen i asked you why you were compiling....  all debian based linux distros are binarry package oriented...
[08:10] <deathnote> mounting my iso but my warcraft can't run
[08:10] <deathnote> sigh
[08:11] <ForgeAus> warcraft, warcraft II warcraft III World of Warcraft? which one?
[08:11] <Jasen> Bob.... I have no idea what I am doing
[08:11] <ForgeAus> I'm sure WineHQ would have some info on it anyhow
[08:11] <ForgeAus> !wine
[08:11] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:11] <Jasen> I am a total nub lol
[08:11] <Agent_bob> Jasen what is the desired end result ?
[08:12] <Jasen> all I want to do is install sylpheed.... it is (from what I am told) the email package that will support my needs (robust, fast and can handle and sort 15,000+ stored emails without bogging down)
[08:13] <Agent_bob> sylpheed - Light weight e-mail client with GTK+
[08:13] <Agent_bob> !sylpheed
[08:13] <ubotu> sylpheed: Light weight e-mail client with GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-1build1 (edgy), package size 580 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[08:14] <Jasen> unfortunately I have been stuck in gates-land for about 25 years and never learned a real os
[08:14] <Agent_bob> jasen all you need to do is enable the universe repo if it's not already and use your favorite package manager to install it.
[08:15] <Jasen> what is a package manager?
[08:15] <ForgeAus> Kivio is good for diagramming
[08:15] <Agent_bob> aka  sudo apt-get install sylpheed
[08:15] <ForgeAus> Jasen basically a software installer
[08:15] <Agent_bob> Jasen adept
[08:15] <Agent_bob> Jasen synaptic
[08:15] <Agent_bob> !apt
[08:15] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:15] <ForgeAus> package managers basically deal with your .debs (or .rpms for distros like Mandriva)
[08:16] <ubuntu> can you just dbl click to install?
[08:16] <Jasen> ok... I installed the edgy cd... it is running. is there a package manager in it?
[08:16] <ForgeAus> yes
[08:16] <ForgeAus> at least 2
[08:16] <Agent_bob> there is one in your   kmenu
[08:16] <Agent_bob> adept
[08:16] <ForgeAus> aptitude is a cli one, but adept is the main one
[08:17] <ForgeAus> add/remove programs uses "a mode of" adept
[08:17] <Jasen> OMG.... thank you!!!
[08:17] <Agent_bob> i prefer synaptic over adept   but don't like any of them really.      apt  is all i use
[08:17] <ForgeAus> (they're actually separate binaries but it at least seems to use the same engine as adept)
[08:18] <ubuntu> im installing kubuntu on a sata drive, will it boot properly?
[08:18] <ForgeAus> agentBob there is a kynaptic :) arklinux uses it
[08:18] <ForgeAus> but I'm not sure there is a .deb for it
[08:18] <matt0507> !gimp
[08:18] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[08:18] <Agent_bob> all of them are mearly frontends to dpkg
[08:18] <ForgeAus> true
[08:18] <ForgeAus> kynaptic was basically just a KDE-style synaptic anyway
[08:18] <ForgeAus> theres also kpackage
[08:19] <ForgeAus> or even smart!
[08:19] <ubuntu> im installing kubuntu on a sata drive, will it boot properly and will it conflict with my winxp install?
[08:19] <Jasen> so I go to a repository and it will have sylpheed?
[08:19] <Agent_bob> no and yes ubuntu  but not nessecerally in that order.
[08:19] <ForgeAus> Jasen you can add a repository with sylpheed possibly ... google it
[08:19] <Agent_bob> :)
[08:19] <surgy> ubuntu: no and no im on sata too
[08:20] <ForgeAus> actually kubuntu SHOULD NOT interfere with your winXP
[08:20] <ubuntu> no? it wont boot?
[08:20] <Jasen> (hopefully my inexperience will entertain someone)
[08:20] <ForgeAus> you can install grub in a way that doesn't mess up your MBR
[08:20] <surgy> ubuntu: you wont have problems :)
[08:20] <ForgeAus> (I think it does so by default anyhow)
[08:20] <Agent_bob> Jasen you go to repositories and enable universe     click apply changes and then  install   sylpheed
[08:20] <ForgeAus> I'm on sata too but I think ubuntu's is a little more complex than merely a sata drive
[08:21] <Gretl> just click on install and take your time to read the menus coming there properly
[08:21] <surgy> agreed
[08:21] <ForgeAus> some kind of LVM in there...
[08:21] <deathnote> !uml
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <Agent_bob> !botsnack | deathnote
[08:22] <ubotu> deathnote: Yum!
[08:23] <Jasen> ok, I am in adept, I go to manage repositories (yes?) I dont see universe
[08:23] <deathnote> the iso won't work
[08:24] <ForgeAus> no
[08:24] <Agent_bob> it should be there Jasen
[08:24] <ForgeAus> User mode linux
[08:24] <ForgeAus> or United Modelling Language
[08:24] <ForgeAus> depends on whihc UML you were looking for
[08:24] <Agent_bob> Jucato busy ?
[08:25] <ForgeAus> !honeypot
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about honeypot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <ForgeAus> awww
[08:25] <ForgeAus> thats sad
[08:26] <ForgeAus> for UML diagramming tools something like Kivio or Dia is great... for Usermode linux try searching for pacakges in Adept
[08:26] <SolidSource> !w32codecs
[08:26] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[08:26] <ForgeAus> or you could just get vlc
[08:26] <ubuntu> why is my screen resolution limited to 1024?
[08:27] <ubuntu> is it because im on live cd?
[08:28] <surgy> good night
[08:28] <SolidSource> yes, if you are on live cd...you will smaller res
[08:29] <ubuntu> ok thanx
[08:29] <sparr> my firefox is giving me weird cursors...  a blue pointer, a very tall hand for links, a blue cursor with a spinning clock while loading.  very surprising, very annoying.  what might have done that and how do i fix it?  could this be a gtk problem?
[08:30] <SolidSource> !codecs
[08:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:31] <deathnote> uml = unified modeling language
[08:31] <deathnote> ForgeAus: u were saying kivio or dia is great for UML diagramming?
[08:32] <Slynderdale> !proccesses
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proccesses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <eh-ef-kay> hello.
[08:35] <ForgeAus> Deathnote Kivio is a koffice app that is designed as an alternative to Visio for MS Office
[08:35] <eh-ef-kay> i got an odd question about colors not showing in xchat like topics ect are in color but any color i try to send don't work as well as colors others use and this seems to be the only distro i've had this issue on any ideas?
[08:36] <ForgeAus> Dia is Gnome's Diagramming Tool (theres even a prgram to create I'm not sure which way, either a diagram from C code or dia to a C skeleton one of them two
[08:36] <deathnote> ForgeAus: sorry i am new to UML.. my lecturer tell us to install Proxy Designer.. but i'm using linux
[08:36] <deathnote> but he say its not important..words can draw the diagram too
[08:37] <sparr> For some reason my mouse cursor theme changes in firefox.  This just started happening.  What did I do to cause it, and how can I fix it?
[08:37] <matt0507> what do i do with .tar.gz file? how can i turn it into something useful >.<
[08:38] <deathnote> mat: tar xzvf .tar.gz
[08:38] <aseigo> matt0507: first, unpack it. from the command line: tar xvf <filename> ; you can also use ark, a gui app, as well; clicking on it in konqi usually launches ark
[08:38] <sparr> aseigo: tar xvf on a .tar.gz wont work so well :-p
[08:39] <aseigo> actually these days tar actually autodetects the compression ... which is pretty neat
[08:39] <ForgeAus> I don't know Proxy Designer
[08:39] <ForgeAus> um you can check out Visual Paradigm for UML
[08:39] <aseigo> so you don't have to specify z or j (bzip2) manually. about time too, imho =)
[08:40] <ForgeAus> not usre if there is a linux version tho
[08:40] <sparr> note to self: upgrade tar
[08:40] <aseigo> matt0507: is this an program you're trying to build?
[08:40] <ForgeAus> (it definitely has a plugin for Visual Studio .NET)
[08:40] <aseigo> sparr: heh.. if your using kubuntu, at least edgy, it's the default behaviour
[08:40] <matt0507> yes it is, it suppose to be the gimp im trying to install
[08:40] <sparr> aseigo: im using dapper/edgy/feisty/selfbuilt  :)
[08:41] <ForgeAus> why can't I install libdvdcss2 and/or w32codecs?
[08:42] <ForgeAus> the ubunutu-multimedia-kde metapackage from saveas doesn't want to install...
[08:42] <Jasen> Agent Bob, I found a reference to "apt-get install sylpheed"  is this the apt you were talking about?
[08:42] <sparr> ForgeAus: is multiverse in your sources?
[08:42] <ForgeAus> yes
[08:42] <aseigo> matt0507: ok, so once you've unpacked the source, cd into the resulting directory and read the README and/or INSTALL files
[08:43] <aseigo> matt0507: generally you're going to do sth like this: ./configure --prefix=/usr; make && sudo make install
[08:43] <aseigo> assuming you want it in /usr as opposed to the more traditional /usr/local for user-installed apps =)
[08:43] <ForgeAus> I have the required packages but it might conflict or replace something else I have?... any idea what?
[08:44] <Jasen> uuh-oh he left,
[08:44] <Jasen> ForgeAus: are you familiar with Apt?
[08:45] <ForgeAus> um partially
[08:45] <deathnote> try to apt-get remove xxxx
[08:45] <deathnote> then get again?
[08:45] <Jasen> I found a reference to "apt-get install sylpheed" is that something I type in at a command line?
[08:46] <ForgeAus> oohh ok it called them forbidden!
[08:46] <ForgeAus> is that beacuse they're non-free?
[08:47] <deathnote> hmm maybe
[08:47] <deathnote> !photoshop
[08:47] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[08:49] <dhq> i need help
[08:49] <dhq> i have a laptop
[08:49] <deathnote> anyone know of any great photo editing tools similar to window's adobe photoshop in linux?
[08:50] <dhq> and my temparature of the laptop is never below 55degres
[08:50] <dhq> deathnote: gimp is nice
[08:50] <SolidSource> deathnote: theres always photoshop in wine
[08:51] <deathnote> wine??!
[08:51] <deathnote> do u mean running  adobe photoshop in wine?
[08:51] <deathnote> ok trying out gimp
[08:51] <SolidSource> yes, thats what I do
[08:52] <dhq> deathnote: well i love gimp
[08:52] <deathnote> ic..problem is i don't have a cracked version of adobe photoshop lol
[08:52] <dhq> deathnote: thats y i prefer opensource
[08:52] <deathnote> dhq: i'm using 2 laptops now..how to check the temperature?
[08:52] <SolidSource> eh, theres always a way around a serial
[08:53] <dhq> deathnote: i use gkrellm and i can monitor my temperature
[08:53] <deathnote> k installing
[08:57] <deathnote> which one of the graph shows temp? lol
[08:57] <dhq> deathnote: go throught the settings
[08:59] <deathnote> got it.. one is 42C
[09:00] <deathnote> the other laptop is acer dual core.. 67C and 57C
[09:00] <deathnote> yours?
[09:01] <SolidSource> remember to keep a can of air around to clear out the fans....that will help
[09:03] <deathnote> a can of cool air?
[09:04] <deathnote> anyway what temp normally will the laptop take? 100C?
[09:05] <incorrect> can tora connect to mysql?
[09:05] <SolidSource> deathnote: not just a can of compressed air to clear the dust out of the fans
[09:06] <ForgeAus> hey Jucato do you think someone should work on a plugin for CNR for Konqueror, basically all that should be needed is a sidebar by the look of it!
[09:06] <deathnote> !photoshop
[09:06] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[09:06] <deathnote> i don't like gimp..
[09:07] <crazy_penguin> 'morning all!
[09:07] <ForgeAus> looks mostly like its just a customized web-browser anyway
[09:08] <deathnote> which looks like adobe photoshop the most? gimp, imagemagick, pixel32, cinepaint, rubymagick, corel photopaint 9 ?
[09:15] <memphis> woot woot woot
[09:15] <memphis> kubuntu rocks
[09:15] <SolidSource> anyone else hear that owl?
[09:15] <deathnote> hey where's the layer tool in gimp ?
[09:15] <Admiral_Chicago> yes it does.
[09:15] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: second
[09:15] <memphis> nice
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: Ctrl + L
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> or Dialogue >> Layers
[09:16] <deathnote> Admiral_Chicago: ahh ctrl L works..where do i open those tool bars actually?
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: ^^
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago>  Admiral_Chicago> or Dialogue >> Layers
[09:17] <deathnote> ic so its called dialogue
[09:17] <deathnote> hey gimp is fun
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> file, open as layer works as well.
[09:18] <deathnote> how do u arrange those dialogues?
[09:18] <deathnote> manually?
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure, my gimp skills are lacking
[09:19] <Jasen> :)  WOOOHOOO Its installed.....
[09:20] <Jasen> .... but what a journey
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> Jasen: what was your problem
[09:22] <craig_> hi room
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[09:22] <Jasen> installing an app
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> which one?
[09:22] <craig_> any one want to chat on msn
[09:22] <Jasen> I was installing sylpheed
[09:22] <gregd> deathnote: try krita it is nice
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> or inkscape
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> but thats in the repositories
[09:24] <craig_> hello
[09:24] <Jasen> Admiral, this is my first linux box... I had no idea how to use them
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> Jasen: open up adept_manager
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> K menu >> system iirc
[09:24] <Jasen> ya....
[09:25] <Jasen> I did it :)
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> is that how you installed it?
[09:25] <premier_> hello
[09:25] <craig_> hello everyone
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> hello premier_
[09:25] <craig_> anyone like to msn
[09:25] <Jasen> well.. I used Adept to install Symantic and then I added a link from a website to the symantic then I installed it
[09:26] <Jasen> not bad for a nub
[09:26] <premier_> Im having trouble running a java program from the command line.  Linux tries to run a program called gij, which is apperently version 1.4.2
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> lol, adept does the exact same thing.
[09:26] <deathnote> what's krita?
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> they are both package manager (GUI front ends) for apt
[09:26] <ernie> I've just run Krita - its very paintshopish - its not too shabby at all :) I might use it instead of the GIMP or as well as
[09:26] <Jasen> but adept didnt have a repository with sylpheed listed.... I enabled all the ones that were there...
[09:26] <premier_> I have version 1.6.0 on my computer, but bash automatically goes to the /usr/bin/java rather than /home/jdk1.6.0/bin
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> it's an image editing program
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Jasen: did you do an update?
[09:27] <Jasen> yes
[09:27] <Jasen> then I searched sylpheed
[09:27] <deathnote> oh cool
[09:27] <deathnote> this is cooooooooooool
[09:27] <premier_> bash does recognize scripts from /home/premier/jdk1.6.0/bin
[09:27] <deathnote> nvmind
[09:27] <premier_> how do I fix this?
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i'm going to say it was something you did, i've never had a problem. i'd recommend running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> no quotes
[09:28] <deathnote> yeah..
[09:28] <deathnote> anymore interesting software
[09:28] <Jasen> Admaral probably it was.... I am a noob
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Jasen: run those commands in konsole
[09:30] <premier_> Admiral_Chicago: can you help me?
[09:31] <Jasen> :) I already got it to work through my circuitous method....  I was just reveling in my success for the ppl here who helped me earlier... though I appreciate the insite. I want to know how it works so I can be less nublike next time
[09:31] <Admiral_Chicago> premier_: never had a problem with java, i'm sorry
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Jasen: there is a good guide, let me get it for you
[09:32] <premier_> well, this isnt a java problem, its a bash problem
[09:32] <Jasen> Admaral, thank you :)
[09:32] <Jucato> !info sylpheed
[09:32] <ubotu> sylpheed: Light weight e-mail client with GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-1build1 (edgy), package size 580 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[09:33] <premier_> see, If I force it to use /home/premier/jdk1.6.0/bin, java will try to look for source there, rather than in the folder I give
[09:33] <deathnote> i've installed ltris but how do i run it?
[09:33] <deathnote> !ltris
[09:33] <ubotu> ltris: very polished Tetris clone with CPU opponents. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.11-1 (edgy), package size 484 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[09:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Jasen: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[09:33] <Jucato> premier_: any reason you didn't want to install java from the repos?
[09:34] <Jasen> Admiral: thanks! that will help much.
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Jasen: it's written by some very good people. It's a good read for new people. enjoy
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: cloak is taking forever to get. something is screwy
[09:35] <Jucato> so I've noticed... I keep on /whois'ing you :)
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> i keep doing that to myself too.
[09:36] <Jucato> lol
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> i'd like to get my addy as well, but that can wait a bit
[09:36] <Jucato> !info sun-java6-jdk
[09:36] <ubotu> Package sun-java6-jdk does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[09:36] <Jucato> !info sun-java6-jdk edgy-backports
[09:37] <ubotu> Package sun-java6-jdk does not exist in edgy
[09:37] <Jucato> ok why doesn't ubotu scan edgy-backports...
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure, i think Dennis is the man that handles the bot
[09:38] <Jucato> yeah.. that was more of an outburst rather than an honest question :)
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> ah
[09:42] <deathnote> !webcam
[09:42] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:42] <ForgeAus> brb
[09:44] <deathnote> hi my acer laptop have a build in webcam
[09:44] <deathnote> how do i use it?
[09:44] <deathnote> what application can use the webcam
[09:44] <aldin> deathnote: kopete, amsn
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> !webcam
[09:44] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> that's the best I can do
[09:45] <aldin> deathnote: gqcam
[09:46] <deathnote> ok gqcam
[09:46] <deathnote> how do i know if its detected?
[09:46] <craig_> hi arcangel
[09:47] <craig_> looks for a chat
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@ubuntu/member/admiral-chiago]
[09:49] <Jucato> nice!! congrats Admiral_Chicago
[09:49] <Jucato> but why chiago?
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks. bed time soon...
[09:49] <Jucato> admiral-chiago?
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i'm from Chicago.
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i see
[09:50] <Jucato> :P
[09:54] <deathnote> !gspca
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gspca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <[StingRay] > Hi, stdin :)
[09:56] <thomax> hi all
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[10:00] <thomax> I have a little problem with some .rar files, it's one package split in several packages like .r01 .r02 and so on, now for some reason some of the files are all uper case, while the rest is lower case and ark won't extract them because he doesn't recognise the ones in uppercase (looks like it is case sensitive) now do any of you have an idea to get those other files in lower case without having to rename them all manually
[10:01] <thomax> more than 40 files, so it would take me a while doing it manual
[10:05] <thomax> no one?
[10:06] <Pensa`MIA> there are batch file renaming programs in the repo's
[10:06] <thomax> you have a name of such a script?
[10:06] <Pensa`MIA> kbrename or something like that, I'm not on linux atm so I cant't say for sure
[10:07] <thomax> alright, i'll check it out, thanks anyway ^^
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> thomax: apt-cache search foobar will search for package foobar
[10:07] <Jucato> !krename
[10:07] <ubotu> krename: Powerful batch renamer for KDE 3.x. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.12-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 315 kB, installed size 1240 kB
[10:07] <Jucato> thomax: ^^^
[10:07] <thomax> alright, great
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: you know all the packages don't you
[10:09] <Jucato> lol no :)
[10:09] <Jucato> some are just familiar
[10:09] <thomax> installed krename_3.0.12-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:09] <Jucato> I can't memorize 20,000+ names :)
[10:09] <thomax> thanx for your help y'all
[10:09] <Jucato> er? installed the .deb?
[10:09] <ForgeAus> Thunar has a batch renaming tool but krename suits kubuntu way better
[10:10] <thomax> jep .deb
[10:10] <Jucato> "sudo apt-get install krename" works better
[10:10] <thomax> thats what i did ;)
[10:10] <Jucato> hm. ok...
[10:10] <kjean-pierre> hello every body
[10:11] <kjean-pierre> i'm new user on kubuntu, and I would like to install a proxy,
[10:11] <kjean-pierre> to go on msn
[10:12] <kjean-pierre> is there somebody who could help me ?
[10:12] <kjean-pierre> please?
[10:12] <kjean-pierre> and I would like also see my windows partitions
[10:12] <ForgeAus> msn needs a proxy?
[10:13] <kjean-pierre> I don't realy know
[10:13] <ForgeAus> well mounting your windows partitions you just need to know which reference the drive is
[10:13] <kjean-pierre> hda?
[10:13] <ForgeAus> ie /dev/sdb2 (for partition 2 on sata drive 2)
[10:13] <ForgeAus> ok hda refers to ide drive 1
[10:13] <kjean-pierre> I try this raight now
[10:13] <Jucato> night Admiral
[10:13] <kjean-pierre> it is not a sataconnexion
[10:14] <kjean-pierre> it is ide
[10:14] <kjean-pierre> but I try ath ever
[10:14] <ForgeAus> kjean the command line is sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 (assuming hda1 is a dir under mnt, you may need to sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1 first)
[10:15] <kjean-pierre> thanks forgeAus
[10:15] <kjean-pierre> I try this
[10:15] <ForgeAus> hda refers to the entire disk itself I think, what you want to do is mount a partition on the disk... ie hda1 (most likely unless you have multiple partitions on it)...
[10:16] <kjean-pierre> yes it is
[10:16] <kjean-pierre> I try and come back
[10:16] <kjean-pierre> thanks
[10:19] <kjean-pierre> ls
[10:20] <ForgeAus> now thats a command linux users should know well :)
[10:27] <deathnote> !java
[10:27] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:27] <deathnote> what's the gui tool for java editing in linux?
[10:27] <ForgeAus> whats wrong with java6?
[10:28] <ForgeAus> deathnote a good one is eclipse
[10:28] <ForgeAus> but you can get netbeans or many others...
[10:28] <deathnote> ok i try eclipse
[10:28] <deathnote> as long as its free?
[10:28] <ForgeAus> eclipse is kinda big
[10:28] <ForgeAus> um not sure if its free/oss or not
[10:29] <deathnote> oss?
[10:29] <deathnote> !eclipse
[10:29] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[10:29] <ForgeAus> does monodevelop do java?
[10:29] <deathnote> i've no idea.. in windows i use jcompiler
[10:30] <ForgeAus> I'm not much of a java programmer so I don't really know
[10:30] <ForgeAus> but eclipse is extensible to jhython/python or ruby or perl
[10:30] <ForgeAus> theres even aspect Java...
[10:31] <ForgeAus> one of the most interesting things is an OpenOffice plugin for it! rolf
[10:31] <ForgeAus> grr rofl
[10:31] <deathnote> k will try eclipse
[10:31] <deathnote> !screensaver
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <deathnote> any graphics intensive screensaver for testing
[10:32] <dettoaltrimenti_> is it difficult to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 without reinstalling?
[10:32] <Ghost> not difficult
[10:33] <ForgeAus> I don't know dettoal some poeple have trouble
[10:33] <dettoaltrimenti_> do you just do it in adept
[10:33] <ForgeAus> isn't it apt-get dist-update or something
[10:34] <ForgeAus> I don't know if kubuntu notifies of dist updates
[10:34] <ForgeAus> you can install gnomes one
[10:34] <mauro> !upgrading | dettoaltrimenti_
[10:34] <ubotu> dettoaltrimenti_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:35] <mauro> deathnote: i do java programming, i use Eclipse
[10:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> thanks
[10:36] <deathnote> ok i'm installing eclipse
[10:36] <deathnote> its big
[10:36] <mauro> deathnote: yes, it is.
[10:39] <ndee> hello there, how can I create a PDF out of OpenOffice?
[10:39] <ndee> found it :D
[10:41] <ninHer> hi all
[10:44] <deathnote> what's a proper way to install beryl?
[10:44] <deathnote> !beryl
[10:44] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:45] <deathnote> so many guides but..
[10:45] <deathnote> i haven't suceed yet..haha
[10:49] <deathnote> !keyboard
[10:49] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[11:13] <doge> ragazzi salve,
[11:14] <doge> ho due prese telefoniche a casa
[11:14] <Jucato> !it | doge
[11:14] <ubotu> doge: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:14] <doge> volevo sapere se posso utilizzarle tutte e due per connettermi ad internet contemporaneamente con due pc diversi
[11:14] <doge> scusate
[11:15] <Jucato> doge: English only please
[11:15] <nounou> Bonjour
[11:15] <nounou> hi
[11:36] <Guardian> hi
[11:36] <Guardian> when i plug an usb drive
[11:36] <Guardian> it asks me what i want to do
[11:37] <Guardian> i choose "open in new window"
[11:37] <Guardian> and nothing happens
[11:37] <Guardian> and there is no icon on the desktop
[11:37] <Guardian> any idea please ?
[11:37] <econthrust> hi!
[11:37] <econthrust> i might look for some data in the directories under /media
[11:38] <econthrust> if none of the folders hold the data suspected to be on the usb, then i don't have a clue :(
[11:38] <econthrust> maybe, u could install the "autofs" package
[11:38] <econthrust> sudo apt-get install autofs i think
[11:39] <econthrust> i look it up to be correct
[11:40] <econthrust> yes autofs is right, i hope that helps :)
[11:41] <mrerny> hola
[11:54] <johny_> Hey guys, I've got a problem with Kubuntu. Don't why it happened but when I log in the login manager appears, I put the login and the password, then it returns to the login screen, KDE doesn't start. If someone want to gave a hand, I've got the log from Xorg
[11:55] <psb154> johny_ this sounds like an Xserver problem, specifically: not the correct Xserver for the graphics card you are using.
[11:57] <kjean-pierre> let's go to eat
[11:57] <kjean-pierre> see you later
[11:59] <johny_> psb154: But so far I have not had problems with my graphics card (Radeon M 9700). I've been using the fglrx drivers without problems, and what's to say: I used to restart my computer often
[12:00] <psb154> johny_ something has *obviously* changed :-) have you updated recently?
[12:00] <psb154> if so this could be the problem.
[12:00] <econthrust> i still suggest u to look at the /var/log/Xorg.log type file
[12:01] <econthrust> that will surely help u trust me :)
[12:01] <psb154> on the kubuntuforums front page there is a note that people who have upgraded recently may suffer problems with ATI and nvidia xservers.
[12:01] <econthrust> i have a ati card too in my notebook, it sux sometimes but the logs helped me to calibrate
[12:03] <econthrust> fglrxinfo says i have a versio 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)  radeon driver from the repository
[12:03] <econthrust> i set it up accoording to the unofficial ubuntu guide ^^
[12:07] <johny_> psb154: No I haven't. I've just found out that I hadn't any space on the HDD- "df -h" gave me "0 mb". Was the problem that?
[12:07] <econthrust> LOL
[12:08] <econthrust> that's always a problem, it surely help if u set some space free :)
[12:09] <econthrust> maybe X couldn't write the settings, logs, and throw an error
[12:09] <johny_> econthrust: Ok, but can it "block" KDE from loading?
[12:09] <psb154> johny_ oh... hate it when that happens 8-) I have seen that happen when MySQL dumps too many log files to the hard disk.
[12:09] <econthrust> in my opinion yes, if it cannot write session files
[12:11] <psb154> johny_ yes any window manager will prolly have the same problem. You will have to reboot, hit escape key, select recovery-mode or whatever it is called and free up some space.
[12:11] <johny_> BTW guys,My Kubuntu partition is only 15 gb, I've got a lot of space on the win partition (free). Do you know some program to convert that freespace in another partition, just like partition magic does?
[12:11] <econthrust> i use acronis partitioning expert 2003
[12:12] <johny_> econthrust: is it free?
[12:12] <econthrust> nope :)
[12:12] <MuJ> johny_: what filesystem are you using on kubuntu partition?
[12:12] <johny_> econthrust: can I manage the partitions from a terminal session with this app?
[12:12] <johny_> MuJ: ext 3
[12:12] <econthrust> i just cannot think any free one, except ubuntu's gparted or something called like that
[12:13] <psb154> johny_ are you looking to format the partition?
[12:13] <MuJ> johny_: there's lots of tutorials how to resize ext2/ext3 partitions on web.. just google =)
[12:14] <econthrust> johny_:  it's a windows software but it has a great bootcd function burnt on a cd
[12:14] <johny_> MuJ: I do know that but without a graphic interface would be quite difficult -:).
[12:14] <econthrust> a great partition manager will load, and u can do almost anything
[12:14] <MuJ> johny_: actually it's not.. :|
[12:15] <MuJ> just read couple through and I'm sure you can do it
[12:15] <johny_> MuJ: i was looking to find that out, listening to you..
[12:15] <psb154> johny_ if you boot from the kubuntu install cd you will find a gui partition manager thing on the start bar.
[12:15] <johny_> MuJ: Do you mean searching google with "Lynx"?
[12:16] <MuJ> uuumm.. why not? =)
[12:16] <johny_> psb154: I just wanted to do it in this way but was curious about others opinions
[12:16] <econthrust> johny_: boot up in windows, and serch
[12:16] <econthrust> *search
[12:17] <johny_> ok, but just wanted to know whether it's possible from the terminal?
[12:17] <MuJ> it is
[12:17] <econthrust> sure, i know it is, everything is possible from console, u only have to read how
[12:18] <psb154> johny_ man mke2fs
[12:18] <econthrust> *nix console with bash just rocks :)
[12:18] <nomad111> hey all does any1 here use xgl?
[12:18] <econthrust> nope :(
[12:18] <johny_> nomad111: I do
[12:19] <nomad111> do u have trouble playing videos
[12:19] <johny_> what you mean "trouble"?
[12:19] <nomad111> sluggish behaviour
[12:19] <nomad111> frame skipping
[12:19] <johny_> yeah
[12:20] <nomad111> did u resolve that issue?
[12:20] <johny_> nomad111: I've experineced the similar behavior
[12:20] <johny_> nomad111: but for me it was every 10, 11 sec the image freezed
[12:21] <johny_> nomad111: and then everything returned to the previous state
[12:21] <johny_> nomad111: Have you read the ATI manual driver yet?
[12:24] <johny_> ok guys now I'm going to restart this beauty and see what happens
[12:24] <nomad111> i dont have ati
[12:24] <nomad111> intel
[12:24] <johny_> nomad111: Sorry I do
[12:25] <johny_> nomad111: XGL is a popular graphics server, haven't you found some infos on your problem on web?
[12:26] <nomad111> i didnt bother looking
[12:26] <nomad111> ive formatted and install many distros after screwing around xgl/beryl/compiz
[12:26] <nomad111> now im just going to settle down
[12:26] <nomad111> and use the standard xserver
[12:26] <johny_> nomad111: no hope?
[12:27] <nomad111> not really just sick of formatting and installing lol
[12:27] <nomad111> i was interested in a few features of beryl
[12:27] <nomad111> not so much the eye candy stuff
[12:27] <nomad111> however emerald beats the current kde themes
[12:27] <johny_> nomad111: you might be more experineced than me, what do you think about those XGL/Compiz/Beryl?
[12:28] <johny_> are they usefull, bring anything "new"?
[12:29] <nomad111> i like the cube idea
[12:30] <johny_> nomad111: yeah this one really rocks
[12:30] <nomad111> not so much the wobbly windows and minimise maximise effects
[12:30] <nomad111> i dont see the point
[12:30] <nomad111> the zooming features is sometimes useful and negative effect coz i dont have great vision
[12:30] <johny_> nomad111: Ok, where's the point of having on of those installed?
[12:31] <waylandbill> I've not had luck with beryl. Well, under sabayon I did, but xgl crashes the system under kubuntu every single time.
[12:31] <nomad111> if u have beryl installed u can turn features on and off
[12:31] <nomad111> emerald is so good
[12:31] <nomad111> i like the bright window decorations
[12:32] <nomad111> lol
[12:32] <nomad111> the alt tab preview is cool
[12:32] <waylandbill> sooner or later the xgl will work and I'll play with it again. I'm not fond of locking up my system repeatedly to find out what's going on.
[12:33] <johny_> nomad111: do all those things consume all the computer recources?
[12:33] <johny_> resources
[12:33] <waylandbill> johny_: yeah. they use up some memory and cpu.
[12:34] <johny_> ok
[12:34] <johny_> thanks for all the info
[12:34] <johny_> got to reset this machine
[12:38] <ni-hao777> jj
[12:40] <mefisto__> I recently upgraded/installed linux headers so I now have <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>. Everything seems to be fine when running <IP_ADDRESS>, so can I safely remove <IP_ADDRESS>? (Just trying to avoid unforeseen problems)
[12:42] <psb154> mefisto__ best way to remove unnecessary files is to either do a: sudo apt-get autoclean    or: sudo apt-get clean   I'd suggest autoclean
[12:43] <psb154> mefisto__ man apt-get for more details.
[12:43] <mefisto__> psb154: I don't mean removing the .deb files, I mean fully uninstalling my original linux headers and image packages, 2.6.17-10
[12:45] <Linux_Galore> nice pick of the centre of our galaxy with the comsic dust removed http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0702/gcenter_spitzer_f40.jpg
[12:45] <Linux_Galore> oops wrong channel
[12:59] <mefisto__> anyone have any comments on uninstalling old linux images?
[01:02] <econthrust> well u can uninstall them in synaptic for example, though i don't think it will ever bother you, and knowing ubuntu, no problems would occur
[01:02] <econthrust> i myself didn't bother of uninstalling them, just to gain 50-80MB of disk space
[01:03] <econthrust> it's up to u
[01:03] <vge> iw done it, no biggies, they are just gone
[01:04] <michaelpo> hello.... i cannot watch vcd... i can watch dvd... what do I need to do? before i did a reinstallation i could watch both dvd and vcd after i installed some package... i could not find the website that teach me how to do it now... please help...
[01:04] <vge> !dvd
[01:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:04] <vge> !vcd
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <ForgeAus> wow you OS is freaky!
[01:08] <michaelpo> vge: i've got libdvdcss2 installed.
[01:10] <ForgeAus> I can't seem to get it... I keep getting a message that its forbidden
[01:11] <michaelpo> downloading vlc now...
[01:17] <kraut> moin
[01:21] <michaelpo> vlc did not work... it crashed when first loading vcd content..
[01:24] <ForgeAus> !saveas
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about saveas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <ForgeAus> !w32codecs
[01:24] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[01:26] <Filthpig> hmm
[01:27] <Filthpig> just wondering why kubuntu does not come with 3d acc drivers and mp3 support?
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> MSN IM having issues? or did they make a change kopete doesn't like?
[01:27] <mart81> ForgeAus: can you please use /msg on ubotu?
[01:27] <Filthpig> LeeJunFan: can't connect?
[01:27] <Tm_T> LeeJunFan: It's MSN, what did you expect?
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> Filthpig: nope.
[01:28] <Filthpig> I had that problem an hour ago
[01:28] <mart81> LeeJunFan: yes i have connecting problems too, also using kopete.
[01:28] <Tm_T> It's msn network broken, as usual.
[01:28] <Filthpig> I just let it reconnect until it connected
[01:28] <mart81> lol
[01:28] <Filthpig> I'm using aMSN though
[01:28] <Jucato> Filthpig: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats The introduction answers your wondering
[01:29] <Jucato> LeeJunFan: can't connect either... but that's nothing new...
[01:29] <mart81> offtopic: today they also started with popups on connecting that there is now msn live for you...
[01:29] <econthrust> two days ago i deleted my msn account b/c i got fed up with it ^^
[01:30] <LeeJunFan> MSN not so live.
[01:30] <mart81> systay popups in kopete that is from MS, which is quite shocking to me :p
[01:30] <Tm_T> econthrust: Good choice.
[01:31] <econthrust> Tm_T: i know :) it's the result of a few years of experience, or maybe not experiencing any good :)
[01:31] <ForgeAus> Jucato why am I getting this:
[01:31] <ForgeAus> Err http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas/all libdvdcss2 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4
[01:31] <ForgeAus>   403 Forbidden
[01:31] <ForgeAus> trying to install libdvdcss2 and w32codecs packages
[01:32] <Jucato> ForgeAus: Seveas' repo might be down or something....
[01:32] <econthrust> the cherry on top is that i had to change to linux b/c my notebook has a radeon card and windows crashes all the time :)
[01:32] <Jucato> Seveas: any comment?
[01:32] <Seveas> ForgeAus, because you forgot to read the BIG BOLD NOTICES on the wikipage
[01:32] <econthrust> the change is permanent
[01:33] <ForgeAus> erm what big bold notices?
[01:33] <Seveas> the big bold ones...
[01:33] <Jucato> "This server sits on an ADSL line and is NOT accessible outside my home network. Please use a mirror." <--- that one?
[01:33] <ForgeAus> hmm trying that
[01:33] <ForgeAus> but I just got the pgp thing from there I have to change the repo in sources.lst too right?
[01:33] <Seveas> Jucato, that sounds like the one :)
[01:34] <Jucato> hehe :)
[01:34] <Tm_T> Can we slap you too?
[01:34] <econthrust> LOL ^^
[01:34] <ForgeAus> no.. and especially not with a large trout
[01:34] <lab014-03> where areu frome
[01:35] <Jucato> !info flashplugin-nonfree dapper-backports
[01:35] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.1ubuntu1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 14 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:35] <Tm_T> ForgeAus: No trout, I had enough greenpeace already.
[01:35] <Jucato> !info flashplugin-nonfree edgy-backports
[01:35] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:35] <Jucato> Seveas: question about that ^^^^
[01:35] <Seveas> hmm
[01:36] <ForgeAus> yay its working!
[01:36] <ForgeAus> aawww...
[01:37] <Jucato> you started it :D
[01:37] <Seveas> !info flashplugin-nonfree edgy-backports
[01:37] <ForgeAus> actually it was Tm's idea about the slapping
[01:37] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:37] <Seveas> hmmmmmmm
[01:37] <Seveas> @reload Encyclopedia
[01:37] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[01:37] <ubotu> OK
[01:37] <Seveas> !info flashplugin-nonfree edgy-backports
[01:37] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.1ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 14 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:37] <ForgeAus> but I confess I was the one that started the trout thing...
[01:37] <Tm_T> ForgeAus: No, slap alias kickban is my idea. ] ;=
[01:38] <Jucato> Seveas: yay! :)
[01:38] <Ash-Fox> Anyone have any idea of how to strip out cr/lf characters from a file in a bash script?
[01:38] <Seveas> Ash-Fox, sed -e 's/\r//' -i file.sh
[01:38] <Seveas> that's for the cr
[01:38] <ForgeAus> wow 14mb for win32 codecs!
[01:38] <Ash-Fox> Thanks Seveas
[01:38] <Jucato> Seveas: \r? not \n
[01:38] <Seveas> repeat with \n instead of \r for cr :)
[01:39] <Seveas> but sed may fail there
[01:39] <Jucato> thought*
[01:39] <Seveas> stupid single-line patternspace
[01:39] <Seveas> Jucato, crlf == \r\n
[01:39] <Ash-Fox> Hm, weird, not working
[01:39] <Jucato> Seveas: oh ok :)
[01:39] <Seveas> Ash-Fox, for the \n it fails I guess
[01:39] <Seveas> sed isn't smart
[01:39] <michaelpo> i've also just installed quake... where is the icon to start quake?\
[01:40] <ForgeAus> hmmm michael is quake dos or windows?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: you have to make a launcher for it
[01:41] <michaelpo> how do i make a launcher?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: wait are you talking the game quake?
[01:41] <michaelpo> yes the game quake2
[01:41] <gnomefreak>  :(
[01:42] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: doesnt quake run in wine?
[01:42] <ForgeAus> I thought quake was originaly a dos app
[01:42] <ForgeAus> but quake 2? not sure
[01:43] <ForgeAus> well if its dos it'd need dosbox
[01:43] <ForgeAus> does wine run dos apps too?
[01:44] <michaelpo> i typed quake2... Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[01:44] <ForgeAus> could be either A) couldn't find the path to it or B) its protected (permissions issue)
[01:45] <Ash-Fox> Wasn't quaked opensourced?
[01:45] <Ash-Fox> *quake
[01:45] <gnomefreak> !info quake2
[01:46] <s4_dzalbs_j> hi
[01:46] <ubotu> quake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB
[01:46] <soulrider> hi
[01:46] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: why didnt you get it from the repos
[01:46] <janchs> hmz....
[01:46] <janchs> what is going on?
[01:47] <mikmak> hi
[01:47] <michaelpo> gnomefreak: i did get it from the repos
[01:47] <mikmak> I've got a little problem with edgy on some computers with mouting USB keys, sometimes it won't open the key and .xsession-errors says something like : kded: ERROR: mount failed for /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_part1_size_252690432: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied - A security policy in place prevents this sender f
[01:47] <mikmak> rom sending this message to this recipient
[01:48] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: than if its not running i would file bug on it. more than likely if you met all depends for it than its looking in wrong path for that module
[01:48] <michaelpo> hmm... how do i create an i con for quake2?
[01:48] <michaelpo> which directory is quake2 installed?
[01:49] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: you need to knwo the command to run it to make icon for it
[01:49] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: /usr/share/somewhere
[01:50] <michaelpo> nope... not in usrshare
[01:50] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: parts of quake were installed in a bunch of dirs. im sure
[01:50] <michaelpo> how do i do a search for the directory?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: locate quake
[01:50] <gnomefreak> open konq and find a search option
[01:51] <iroxorsju> hey guys
[01:51] <iroxorsju> i got a quick question
[01:51] <soulrider> ask
[01:52] <iroxorsju> Apept package manager is working in the background for some reason and i don't see how to close it or that its even running
[01:52] <iroxorsju> i can see it in processes
[01:52] <Jucato> !adeptfix | iroxorsju
[01:52] <ubotu> iroxorsju: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:53] <iroxorsju> how much of that do i put in the command promt
[01:54] <Jucato> iroxorsju: only the ones inside the << >> part
[01:54] <iroxorsju> i am really really new i just installed my first program a bit ago
[01:55] <iroxorsju> hmmm
[01:55] <iroxorsju> well i did it it did not give me an error it just went away
[01:56] <iroxorsju> i still got it in processes though
[01:56] <iroxorsju> the manager that is
[01:56] <michaelpo> i did a right click property in synaptic for quake2... lots of different directory... where is the quake2.exe file?
[01:57] <ForgeAus> michael it doens't have to be a .exe file in linux
[01:57] <ForgeAus> maybe just quake2
[01:57] <ForgeAus> or quakeII as long as its set to executable
[01:57] <ForgeAus> linux isn't like windows or dos extensions don't have to be .com .exe .bat .pif etc... in order to run
[01:58] <iroxorsju> gah this is a headache lol
[01:58] <Filthpig> hm
[01:58] <iroxorsju> how do i log into root
[01:58] <Filthpig> use sudo
[01:58] <iroxorsju> so i can jsut kill the proceess
[01:58] <ForgeAus> sudo
[01:59] <ForgeAus> try sudo -i
[01:59] <Filthpig> hm
[01:59] <ForgeAus> or for single commands use sudo <command here>
[01:59] <iroxorsju> ...
[01:59] <ForgeAus> should ask you the root password before executing it
[01:59] <Filthpig> I installed q2 from the repos, but I get Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx when trying to run the game
[01:59] <ForgeAus> (sometimes if you run another immediately after even with sudo before it it doesn't ask, perhaps it realizes your still logged in)
[01:59] <iroxorsju> ahh i tried putting this in there and it dind't ask for password
[02:00] <iroxorsju> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:00] <iroxorsju> dind't ask for password or do anything
[02:00] <Filthpig> a quick search for colormap gave nothing that had to do with q2
[02:00] <ForgeAus> I don't know the fuser command
[02:01] <iroxorsju> Ubotu gave it to me
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gave it to me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <ForgeAus> !fuser
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <iroxorsju> ...
[02:01] <iroxorsju> is that a person?
[02:01] <ForgeAus> hehe lol sometimes things are strange
[02:01] <ForgeAus> no ubotu is a bot
[02:01] <Jucato> iroxorsju: ok try to split it into 2 commands: "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[02:01] <Jucato> iroxorsju: then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[02:01] <iroxorsju> ok lol
[02:02] <iroxorsju> nothing
[02:02] <ForgeAus> semicolons aren't an acceptible filenam char are they?
[02:02] <iroxorsju> it gives no error nor does it ask for password
[02:02] <ForgeAus> irox perhaps your already logged in as root?
[02:02] <Jucato> it's ok. the system remembers your password for a few minutes
[02:02] <Jucato> I think 3 minutes
[02:03] <Jucato> iroxorsju: even this command shows nothing? sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:03] <iroxorsju> well i went in to the performance monitor to kill a process but it said i dind't have privlages to kill it so i figured i wasn't
[02:03] <ForgeAus> maybe your sudo is broken?
[02:03] <iroxorsju> niether does anything
[02:04] <Jucato> iroxorsju: try launching Adept Manager again?
[02:04] <iroxorsju> k sec i think i tried
[02:04] <iroxorsju> i will try again
[02:04] <Jucato> yep. try again, specially after those 2 commands
[02:05] <iroxorsju> nothing it jsut poofs
[02:05] <Jucato> what do you mean by "poofs"?
[02:05] <iroxorsju> manager doesn't come up it asks for password then never comes up
[02:05] <iroxorsju> shall i jsut reboot?
[02:05] <Jucato> hm... Adept's sickness (again...)
[02:05] <Jucato> no
[02:06] <Jucato> iroxorsju: try again... or... press Alt+F2, and type this: kdesu adept_manager (if you're on Edgy)
[02:06] <iroxorsju> i am on kbuntu
[02:06] <iroxorsju> whatever the newest one is
[02:06] <ForgeAus> edgy is a version of kubuntu
[02:06] <Jucato> that would be edgy
[02:06] <iroxorsju> lol
[02:06] <iroxorsju> told you i am new
[02:06] <ForgeAus> feisty is the newer one than that but its in alpha/herd
[02:08] <iroxorsju> ok
[02:08] <iroxorsju> i did
[02:08] <michaelpo> nevermind... no need to try quake2... try something else...
[02:08] <iroxorsju> kdesu adept_manager   it asked for password and nothing ever came up
[02:08] <iroxorsju> i think it would be easier to just restart :O
[02:08] <iroxorsju> if that would work
[02:08] <Jucato> maybe...
[02:09] <iroxorsju> i logged out and back in
[02:09] <iroxorsju> once but never turned off computer
[02:09] <iroxorsju> i jsut got done installing Boinc could that have done something?
[02:10] <iroxorsju> be right back
[02:10] <iroxorsju> gonan restart computer
[02:10] <michaelpo> is there another good fps that i can try in linux?
[02:10] <tesuki> tremulous
[02:11] <tesuki> can be found on www.tremulous.net
[02:14] <iroxorsju> restarting fixed it can't beat the old restart
[02:14] <iroxorsju> lol
[02:15] <Jucato> heh
[02:15] <iroxorsju> you know this is jsut a computer i got sitting in the corner don't raelly use it since i just bought a new one
[02:16] <iroxorsju> if i could just get my games going i would be all about this linux thing
[02:16] <iroxorsju> i am at least learning even if i don't use it
[02:18] <vge> michaelpo: basically all ID software FPS:s or their offsprings
[02:19] <michaelpo> vge: not in synaptics?
[02:19] <iroxorsju> whats that?
[02:20] <vge> not free ones
[02:20] <vge> well, enemy territory is
[02:20] <iroxorsju> i mess with Vanguard
[02:20] <Jucato> what's what?
[02:20] <iroxorsju> haha
[02:20] <iroxorsju> no idea
[02:20] <iroxorsju> hmm enemy territory
[02:20] <vge> michaelpo: and eaven thou quake2 can be found in repos, you still need the actual data files to play it
[02:20] <iroxorsju> i havne't played that in ages
[02:21] <vge> iroxorsju: well, i havent playd for ages :)
[02:21] <Andrew_0> hey hey could someone help me get connected to my Apple wireless keyboard?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> vge: isnt quake2-data a depend of quake?
[02:21] <Andrew_0> someone who understands bluez-utils & kbluetoothd
[02:21] <Andrew_0> I'm in hidd --search * hcitool etc hell at the moment ;)
[02:22] <vge> gnomefreak: actually im not 100%, ill check
[02:22] <gnomefreak> yep it is
[02:22] <Andrew_0> upgrading from dapper -> edgy screwed my bluetooth setup, so trying to fix it.
[02:22] <gnomefreak> vge: apt-cache show shows it as one
[02:23] <vge> get the descriptions of that paggage,  it says something different if im not mistaken
[02:24] <vge> well, i donno anymore
[02:26] <Andrew_0> nobody here knows about bluetooth + kubuntu :( ?
[02:26] <Andrew_0> any ideas what channels I could try?
[02:26] <Andrew_0> a bluez-utils channel would be ideal
[02:26] <ForgeAus> I know kubuntu has some progs for bluetooth by default
[02:27] <Jucato> I know just a bit about bluetooth + kubuntu, but everything just worked out of the box...
[02:27] <fernando_> I have install windows vista, and know I can se the list to select the OS....
[02:27] <fernando_> how can I reinstall only grub???
[02:27] <fernando_> without to reinstall kubuntu???
[02:28] <Jucato> !grub
[02:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:28] <fernando_> now.. i cann't see..
[02:28] <Jucato> fernando_: one of those pages might have an answer
[02:28] <fernando_> okis..thanks.jucato
[02:31] <michaelpo>  i cant find the .deb file for alienarena
[02:34] <vge> michaelpo: have u tested http://www.princessleia.com/UT.php ?
[02:34] <michaelpo> vge: nope...
[02:37] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[02:38] <michaelpo> im tired.... will try finding fps and installing it another day..... bedtime... good night...
[02:46] <dick_turpin> Hi, Is it possible to upgrade/replace Mepis with Kubuntu via apt-get?
[02:46] <Jucato> dick_turpin: #mepislovers
[02:48] <BluesKaj> Jucato, have you tried mepis ?
[02:49] <Jucato> when MEPIS 6.0 first came out
[02:51] <dick_turpin> Jucato: Its for my girls and they prefer Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[02:51] <Jucato> dick_turpin: ah... I'm not sure that would be easy to do
[02:52] <eean> I installed htdig and still htsearch isn't found by kdevelop.
[02:52] <eean> any ideas?
[02:53] <eean> dick_turpin: sounds ill-advised :)
[02:53] <eean> dick_turpin: why its good to keep / on a seperate partition from /home
[02:53] <alexicon> is there an apt flag that gives a bit more package information
[02:54] <xenol> plz where can i DL br2684ctl for amd64 kubuntu 6.06? plz
[02:54] <eean> (my prob is solved at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107714 )
[02:54] <dick_turpin> Its the Fujitsu Amelo D-7830 thats giving me trouble, its a fresh install on a clean HDD
[02:58] <reagleBRKLN> i'm using kubuntu edgy with 2.6.17-10-generic  kernel, and want to build a 2.6.20. But i'm having trouble with my booting on my SATA drives. I have a Dell e520 with a Serial ATA AHCI Bios version iSrc, which module do I use?
[02:59] <econthrust> there are notices that 2.6.20 kernel is buggy and/or not compatible with some HW...use with care
[02:59] <BluesKaj> reagleBRKLN, one question , ... Why?
[03:00] <reagleBRKLN> Black5un: couple of reasons, try kvm, beryl, etc.
[03:01] <dick_turpin> Thanks anyway it was worth asking
[03:02] <xenol> how can i run draytek vigor318 modem on dapper plz?
[03:02] <BluesKaj> beryl is buggy at best even on edgy
[03:05] <atidem> hello
[03:07] <reagleBRKLN> trying ahci
[03:07] <BluesKaj> heh, i wonder what atidem question is about ? :)
[03:07] <atidem> BluesKaj: no question
[03:10] <xenol> can someone help me to r un vigor318 modem?
[03:12] <guiden> hi, I want to programs programs in kde
[03:12] <guiden> program
[03:13] <guiden> what should I do
[03:20] <Jack001> Has have installed berkeley DB?
[03:24] <thompa> i cant seem to access port 8443 on a remote server?
[03:24] <andy_0> Hi, does anyone here know about BLUETOOTH on Kubuntu, or which channel I could try for some assistance?
[03:25] <thompa> andy_0: install bluetooth tools, obix stuff etc if its not there already
[03:25] <Jack001> Has have installed berkeley DB?
[03:25] <andy_0> thompa: um, my problem is really quite unique, and would requirwe somebody to know quite a lot about bluez-utils I think
[03:26] <andy_0> My problem isn't just a "I haven't instaled the necessary packages"
[03:26] <andy_0> Basically from Dapper-> Edgy I now get this hci_acldata_packet: hci0 ACL packet for unknown connection handle 7 appearing in my DMESG
[03:26] <thompa> andy_0: i just use mine for phone and palm synching, dont know about anything else
[03:27] <andy_0> sure thompa
[03:27] <andy_0> hopefully someone here might know where I can get help
[03:27] <andy_0> I've tried #bluez, it seems not active
[03:33] <thompa> does anyone know why i cant access :8443 port in browser, it works on main box but not laptop?
[03:34] <The_Machine> how can i use ntfs-3g to read the filesystem of a USB2 external hdd w/ NTFS as the FS on it?
[03:34] <The_Machine> i don't get how to do it w/ USB drives
[03:34] <The_Machine> (I do understand internal ones)
[03:34] <xenol> !ntfs
[03:34] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:34] <The_Machine> !ntfs-3g
[03:34] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:36] <incorrect> k3b keeps trying to use /dev/sg not /dev/scd0
[03:37] <incorrect> how can i force it to use the right device
[03:45] <MidMark> hi, I've enabled zeroconf, but I cannot see anything that I shared, what I have to do?
[03:45] <MidMark> I've two computer in the same lan
[03:46] <hellcattrav> hey folks
[03:46] <MidMark> I've to install nfs?
[03:47] <hellcattrav> ive a question, i can access my windows file under /media and i want to listen to my mp3's what do i have to do-
[03:48] <psb154> !nfs
[03:48] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:48] <psb154> !mp3
[03:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:48] <psb154> 8-)
[03:49] <hellcattrav> hanx
[03:49] <MidMark> psb154: nfs is needed to share folders between 2 linux?
[03:50] <psb154> samba is prolly simpler.
[03:50] <psb154> !smb
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <psb154> !samba
[03:50] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:50] <MidMark> samba betweenn two linux?
[03:50] <psb154> sure
[03:50] <hellcattrav> if im running kubuntu how do i add the repositories?
[03:50] <MidMark> adept->manage repo
[03:51] <MidMark> psb154: ok
[03:51] <hellcattrav> amarok aksed me to input password to dowload restricted files, but i don't think it updates
[03:52] <hellcattrav> ok im at the adept--> manage reposoitores, wheere should i go know?
[03:53] <MidMark> hellcattrav: enable all repo that are disabled
[03:53] <MidMark> right click -> enable
[03:53] <MidMark> then apply and fecth update or something similar
[03:54] <hellcattrav> the greyed out ones?
[03:55] <hellcattrav> and how do i know i which one is the one I'd want?
[03:55] <MidMark> yes, only ones that match with an url, no ones with comments
[03:55] <MidMark> see the wiki link provided ^
[03:55] <hellcattrav> yeha thanks
[03:56] <MidMark> hellcattrav: I suggest you to use Synaptic (from Ubuntu) rather than adept, synaptic does the same things than adept, but I think it's easier and better, you can install it from adept
[03:56] <MidMark> you can have both of course installed
[03:57] <hellcattrav> if i installed the ubuntu desktop, would it have synaptic with that?
[03:58] <hellcattrav> nevermind
[03:58] <hellcattrav> i answered my own question
[04:00] <benkong2> Hello all, I think I must have made a mistake. my kubuntu partition was 55GB I had an extra 120GB empty part and so I used gparted and resized. However it still shows 55GB what did I do wrong?
[04:00] <benkong2> df -h shows 55GB gparted shows 177GB
[04:02] <psb154> benkong2 what does   df -a   show?
[04:02] <benkong2> 55GB with 87% used
[04:02] <Johny_> !mplayer|johny_
[04:03] <The_Machine> okay, i've read the mounting NTFS partitions stuff that people !ntfs etc. to me
[04:03] <Johny_> !mplayer
[04:03] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[04:03] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[04:03] <benkong2> I ran reiserfs_chk and it reported all ok
[04:03] <benkong2> that was reiserfsck
[04:04] <ForgeAus> hellcat you can install synaptic into kubuntu but no its not installed by default
[04:04] <hellcattrav> ok im in synaptic what am i looking for?
[04:05] <psb154> benkong2 does: cat /ect/fstab show other hd?
[04:05] <Johny_> Hey is there any way to launch a movie with mplayer from a full terminal session?
[04:06] <benkong2> yes it does. It shows my second HD 60GB and it shows the partitions for /home and /media/windows NTFS and /media/share fat32
[04:06] <mshade> Johny_: you want to launch it in another X session? or in the console..
[04:08] <Johny_> mshade: In the full console ( alt+f1)
[04:08] <mshade> you could play it with aalib
[04:08] <mshade> mplayer -vo aa filename.mpg
[04:08] <benkong2> Ok now reiserfsck  --check reports Bad root block 0. What do I need to do
[04:09] <mshade> the problem is, you've got no real interface to the graphics card.  VGAlib might do it, but you'd have to run as root
[04:09] <psb154> benkong2 if you are sure that the partition exists and has been formated couldn't you simply add it to your /etc/fstab
[04:09] <PhinnFort> !kickoff
[04:09] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[04:10] <benkong2> psb154: I am using the partition now. It is my / partition that I installed kubuntu in
[04:10] <benkong2> I resized it and now it does not show the increased size
[04:10] <psb154> i see
[04:10] <psb154> you've rebooted your brains out I assume?
[04:11] <benkong2> psb154: yes I have warm and cold boots
[04:11] <animimotus> hi
[04:11] <benkong2> I have also run all reiserfs tools
[04:11] <jhutchins> SuSE is attempting to replace KDE?
[04:11] <benkong2> All I know to do now is reinstall
[04:11] <psb154> if you run qparted or whatever it was again now what does it say
[04:11] <jhutchins> Oh, just the menu.
[04:11] <benkong2> and use ext3 for all my linux FS
[04:12] <atidem> Johny_: $ mplayer -vo fbdev file
[04:12] <psb154> benkong2 if you run qparted or whatever it was again now what does it say
[04:12] <jhutchins> benkong2: What did you use to resize it?
[04:13] <Johny_> !fbdev
[04:13] <benkong2> gparted. I booted from a gparted CD and resized the /dev/hda3 partition
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fbdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <benkong2> I will reboot using the CD and see what it says.
[04:13] <animimotus> please, someone has an url to indicate in Adblock module for Konqueror ?
[04:13] <Johny_> atidem: thanks, I'll give a try
[04:14] <atidem> Johny_: you are welcome
[04:14] <psb154> benkong2 you can sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:14] <benkong2> psb154: yes I can but don't I need to unmount the partition before trying it?
[04:15] <psb154> benkong2 not just to view the partitioning
[04:15] <benkong2> ok hold on
[04:15] <psb154> benkong2 whatever you feel comfortable with.
[04:16] <blue|palm> Is it at all possible to put different superkaramba objects onto different sides of a beryl cube?
[04:21] <benkong2> psb154: funny it shows the 177GB partition
[04:22] <benkong2> psb154: it also shows 170GB used I know that's not true
[04:23] <Dr_willis> all righty - dare i update the kernel packages now? :)
[04:24] <psb154> benkong2 oh dear. It does sound like the resize process didn't work properly.
[04:24] <benkong2> yeah, that's what I suspected
[04:24] <benkong2> ok BRB I am going to backup and reinstall see ya later and thanks
[04:25] <psb154> benkong2 good luck.
[04:32] <hellcattrav> hey firefox keeps closing on me when i go to yahoo
[04:32] <hellcattrav> i try to sign in to my email and it just closes
[04:32] <hellcattrav> anyone know why?
[04:39] <xenol> !msg  ubotu !bestsoftware
[04:40] <LjL>  /msg ubotu best
[04:43] <eeos> does anyone know if portaudio is compiled with alsa support?
[04:45] <CaptainApathy> quick question:  if I want the power manager from Feisty Fawn, is there a way to install it?
[04:45] <CaptainApathy> without installing the full system
[04:46] <HymnToLife> I doubt it
[04:47] <HymnToLife> maybe get the sources packages and compile them on your Edgy
[04:47] <HymnToLife> but the feisty packages definitely won't work
[04:47] <CaptainApathy> hm.... I see..
[04:49] <brett> is there a good channel to go to for help with java coding? they wont let me into#java because my nick isn't registered
[04:49] <Jucato> !register | brett
[04:49] <ubotu> brett: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:49] <brett> jucato how quickly can i get registered?
[04:50] <CaptainApathy> they normally try to make it fairly easy to register
[04:50] <Jucato> brett: that page has instructions
[04:50] <brett> ok.. thanks
[04:50] <Jucato>  /msg nickserv register <password>
[04:50] <Jucato> just check it
[04:52] <brett> how do i change my handle?
[04:52] <brett> what is the command
[04:53] <Johny_> mshade: Hey the command you gave me doesn't work
[04:54] <Johny_> mshade:sorry it wasn't you
[04:54] <newname>  /nick newname
[04:54] <BrettV> thanks
[04:55] <BrettV> thanks guys
[04:57] <MidMark> psb154: I cannot access to samba's other pc, it always timeout
[04:57] <MidMark> both have the same workgroup, I have create a user in my samba, choosen a shared dir...
[04:57] <MidMark> what I'm missing?
[04:58] <CaptainApathy> MidMark:  does the Firewall let the connection in?
[04:58] <eeos> does anyone know if portaudio is compiled with alsa support?
[04:58] <psb154> MidMark have you: smbpasswd
[04:58] <MidMark> psb154: yes smbpasswd -a <user>
[04:59] <MidMark> CaptainApathy: which firewall?
[04:59] <MidMark> this works with one windows and one linux, but not with two linux
[04:59] <CaptainApathy> on the computer that is serving the samba share?
[04:59] <MidMark> CaptainApathy: I haven't a firewall here
[04:59] <psb154> MidMark tell me if this link helps: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=12735.msg50821#msg50821
[05:01] <MidMark> I can view other pc, but when I click to view shared folder -> timeout
[05:01] <MidMark> smbfs should be installed?
[05:03] <psb154> MidMark what you describe is symptomatic of not setting up an smb user. The smb user name must be the name and password of a user on the computer you wish to connect to.
[05:03] <MidMark> psb154: I know, but I created! should I reboot?
[05:04] <psb154> no
[05:04] <psb154> MidMark then permissions on the other computer...
[05:04] <psb154> MidMark how are you creating the shares?
[05:05] <MidMark> right click on the folder -> share with samba
[05:05] <eeos> how do you change festival start up settings? the man page is useless.
[05:05] <Kubunlost> Hi everyone
[05:06] <Kubunlost>  I just lost my favorite kubuntu application :(   Kaffeine player, it refused to start up ... any idea ?
[05:08] <MidMark> psb154: kubuntu has a firewall to be set?
[05:09] <psb154> MidMark not be default.
[05:09] <zobolococo> guys if i use qtparted and format a partition (ntfs) to fat32 will the content be erased?
[05:09] <Biovore> yes
[05:09] <MidMark> so don't know why doesn't work!
[05:09] <LjL> zobolococo: err... formatting *always* mean that the contents is erased
[05:09] <psb154> MidMark the folder you are trying to browse is it in a permissions-restricted directory?
[05:09] <LjL> not securely erased, mind you, but erased
[05:10] <zobolococo> how can i transform a ntfs partition to a fat32 without erasing its content?
[05:10] <LjL> zobolococo: you probably can't
[05:10] <LjL> !convertfs
[05:10] <Kubunlost> I want my Kaffeine back :(  please help
[05:10] <ubotu> convertfs: in-place filesystem conversion. In component universe, is extra. Version 20050113-1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 116 kB
[05:10] <LjL> this is an (unsafe, and probably not going to work) possibility
[05:10] <MidMark> it my home under ext3
[05:10] <Kubunlost>  I can't survive without my daily dose of kaffeine :)
[05:10] <LjL> actually, it *certainly* won't work with NTFS, so don't even bother
[05:10] <SlackRat> zobo, u cant
[05:10] <LjL> just backup and restore
[05:10] <psb154> MidMark as an experiment create a director in root / and then: sudo chmod 777 newDir
[05:11] <zobolococo> with norton partition magic you can
[05:11] <zobolococo> but i cant install it here
[05:11] <zobolococo> the thing is i am runnong
[05:11] <SlackRat> where'd  your caffeine go?
[05:11] <zobolococo> running bitdefender livecd
[05:11] <psb154> MidMark then make it a share and attempt to connect to it and create a text file in it
[05:11] <zobolococo> lol its the stupid keyboard... it has the return key on enter place :|
[05:11] <SlackRat> oops freudian slip, i meant kaffeine
[05:12] <SlackRat> heh
[05:14] <MidMark> psb154: using ip instead of pc names it works, so it can be naming resolution
[05:15] <psb154> MidMark, prolly just need to add the puter in your /etc/hosts file
[05:16] <BrettV> i am attempting to install the jdk through adept... it has been stuck on 23% for ten minutes. I clicked show details and I see a screen that looks like it is waiting for me to click an ok button
[05:16] <MidMark> psb154: there isn't a graphical way to do that?
[05:16] <MidMark> just to know
[05:17] <BrettV> is there something that i need to do?
[05:17] <SlackRat> Brett Adept can take some time, Java tools are a bit large...
[05:17] <psb154> Oh yes, konqueror: smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/sharName
[05:17] <CaptainApathy> wooo sound is working again...
[05:18] <CaptainApathy> I think... I'm not going to test it during class.... >_>
[05:18] <psb154> MidMark from konqueror: smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/sharName
[05:18] <psb154> MidMark obviously change the ip for puter name or other ip 8-)
[05:19] <MidMark> ok but I want to say that is there a graphical way to add to hosts file the pc
[05:19] <psb154> System settings
[05:19] <CaptainApathy> kwrite? :P
[05:19] <CaptainApathy> oh
[05:20] <MidMark> psb154: where in System Settings?
[05:21] <bdmurray> Is there a way to manually save my KDE session without logging out?  I have set up my session the way I want it but X ocassionally dies on me.
[05:21] <BrettV> i think it wants me to push ok
[05:21] <psb154> Under networking, select your network device I believe. Mine right now is doing that thing where it wont prompt me for Administrator password.
[05:22] <waylandbill> bdmurray: if x dies, it goes back to  the last time you did log out, so make you once you have it set up, that you log out once... if you're crashing X alot anyway.
[05:22] <bdmurray> waylandbill: I'd rather not log out though.  Is there any way to manually save the session?
[05:23] <waylandbill> bdmurray: I'd look at .kde/Autostart
[05:23] <Johny_> some e-mail clients working in the full console mode?
[05:24] <bdmurray> waylandbill: okay thanks
[05:26] <waylandbill> is it possible to submit instructions for setting up a wireless card to the (K)ubuntu documentation? They don't seem to have my card and it's a few steps to set up. Can't edit the wiki though for some reason.
[05:27] <mshade> !mud
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mud - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <waylandbill> I'm talking community documentation of course.
[05:27] <mshade> anyone know of a good mud client for kubuntu?
[05:29] <waylandbill> never mind. I can edit the wiki now. must be not logged in before. :-)
[05:33] <geniusvicks> i keep betting a message saying "adept manager" is aldready opened so I cant use the new window. But I have restarted several times to no avail
[05:34] <Cuddles_in_KY> anyone awake?
[05:35] <SlackRat> define awake.... :p
[05:35] <geniusvicks> anyone ? help
[05:36] <SlackRat> first check kystemguard and make sure you dont have several adept sessions running now
[05:37] <psb154> geniusvicks, you have a 'lock' file open somewhere. cd to /etc/apt
[05:40] <Cuddles_in_KY> correction, the ethernet is realtek rtl8211
[05:40] <krawek> hi julianad
[05:41] <psb154> geniusvicks actually check your /var/lib/dpkg directory. Is there a 'lock' file in there?
[05:42] <geniusvicks> psb154 ya. What hpnd wuz, the aptget stuck when I wuz installing java. After that it aint working
[05:43] <waylandbill> geniusvicks: probably was looking for you to accept the license. Install java using apt-get or aptitude on the command line.
[05:43] <waylandbill> (after removing the lock)
[05:44] <geniusvicks> waylandbill, what is teh command. Also how do I include the plugin for "konqueror" ?
[05:44] <geniusvicks> *the
[05:44] <geniusvicks> btw, how do I make double click as the method to open files and not single click
[05:45] <waylandbill> kpersonalizer will help with that
[05:46] <slyfox> Why is it that every time I start Kopete it asks me for all my account passwords? I checked for it rto remember passwords and Kwallet is running... ?
[05:46] <waylandbill> I installed sun-java6-plugin when I installed java. It's in the multiverse.
[05:48] <jhutchins> slyfox: password saving appears to be somewhat broken in the current kubuntu.
[05:48] <jhutchins> slyfox: I don't run kwallet, but kmail asks for every password everytime, including the kwallet password.
[05:49] <jhutchins> slyfox: I tell it to save without using kwallet, it says ok and ignores me.
[05:49] <slyfox> jhutchins: this sucks
[05:49] <jhutchins> I think somebody tried to force the system to use kwallet and broke stuff.
[05:49] <jhutchins> slyfox: File a bugreport.
[05:49] <jhutchins> slyfox: Or if there's already a bugreport, vote for it.
[05:51] <geniusvicks> waylandbill, what is the command to install sun java?
[05:51] <slyfox> jhutchins: not sure if Kwallet i a good idea at all, I like when applications themselfe rememmber passwords
[05:51] <jhutchins> slyfox: I prefer that myself.
[05:51] <waylandbill> geniusvicks: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin    that's what I did.
[05:51] <jhutchins> wallet is to windows for me.
[05:51] <Johny_> some e-mail clients working in the full console mode?
[05:52] <dwidmann> slyfox: there are some interesting things you can do with kwallet though
[05:52] <psb154> geniusvick, System Settings > Mouse > General tab    will allow you to set the number of mouse clicks.
[05:52] <montca48> [] [watis you name
[05:52] <Tm_T> Johny_: mail, pine, mutt, just to name a few.
[05:52] <waylandbill> conceptually you could backup all your passwords by backing up kwallet's data files. I think that's one of the fundamentals of it. Sucks when it doesn't work though
[05:52] <slyfox> dwidmann: liek that ?
[05:52] <dwidmann> Have a master password you can remember .... and randomly generate passwords that can only be broken through brute force
[05:54] <dwidmann> Another way of handling k-wallet is to have your kwallet password blank, then it won't prompt you for the password every time
[05:54] <Johny_> Tm_T:Thanks. Do they act like clients or only as serwers?
[05:54] <Johny_> servers
[05:54] <jhutchins> waylandbill: Think of it as a single point of critical failure.
[05:54] <montca48> what's up jordo?
[05:55] <jhutchins> Johny_: Eh?  Clients.  Kmail/korganizer
[05:55] <waylandbill> dwidmann: if your system is physically secure, you could forgo the master password yes.
[05:55] <Tm_T> Johny_: Clients ofcourse
[05:56] <Johny_> jhutchins: no, no I just wanted a console working client in the text mode to organize my mails
[05:56] <adrian_h> Help! My keyboard stopped working. I'm running Kubuntu 6.06. All of a sudden my keyboard is no longer responsive, although my mouse still works.
[05:56] <jhutchins> Johny_: Oh.  I like pine.
[05:56] <montca48> pine?
[05:57] <jhutchins> Johny_: A lot of people like mutt, but I find it's configuration relatively opaque.
[05:57] <waylandbill> pine is not elm.
[05:57] <Johny_> jhutchins: what client would you reccomend?
[05:57] <jhutchins> Johny_: mail is a pretty minimal client, but it works.  Handy for command-line mailing.
[05:57] <jhutchins> Johny_: pine.
[05:57] <jhutchins> Johny_: I have and use both pine and mail on almost all of my systems.
[05:58] <Johny_> jhutchins: ok, I'll try
[05:58] <jhutchins> mail may be distributed as nail, that's what Mandriva uses.
[05:58] <waylandbill> mail is good for scripting when you need to write mail to many users (organizational, not spam of course)
[05:58] <jhutchins> Yeah, send monitoring reports, etc.
[05:59] <montca48> pine?
[05:59] <jhutchins> Great for emergency pages.
[05:59] <MidMark> psb154: ok now with a computer I can see the other but the countrary is: I can see folders, but when I access then it say "dir not exist" without asking for name and password at all
[05:59] <Johny_> !pine|montca48
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <waylandbill> montca48: pine is not elm. (that's what the acronym stands for) elm replacement.\
[05:59] <MidMark> how can I force to ask me the password?
[06:00] <jhutchins> Sebby2oo7: en
[06:00] <Sebby2oo7> vorbiti romana
[06:00] <jhutchins> !ro > Sebby2oo7
[06:00] <Sebby2oo7> ?
[06:00] <Sebby2oo7> huh
[06:00] <Sebby2oo7> ?
[06:00] <Sebby2oo7> !ro
[06:00] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[06:01] <jhutchins> MidMark: What are you sharing folders with?  ntfs or samba?
[06:01] <jhutchins> er, s/ntfs/nfs/.
[06:01] <Dave007> hi
[06:01] <MidMark> samba
[06:02] <Dave007> ich htte eine frage
[06:02] <jhutchins> MidMark: Have a look at the "user" definition for the share.
[06:02] <stamen> hi
[06:02] <MidMark> I have created user in both pc, what do you mean
[06:02] <stamen> how to mount usb stick
[06:02] <jhutchins> Dave007: Sorry, my german's really rusty.
[06:02] <waylandbill> did you add yourself to samba? i.e. smbpasswd
[06:02] <jhutchins> !de | Dave007
[06:02] <ubotu> Dave007: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:02] <Dave007> do you speak english
[06:02] <MidMark> stamen: put it
[06:02] <stamen> where to look
[06:03] <stamen> yes I insert it but nothing
[06:03] <MidMark> ntfs?
[06:03] <jhutchins> stamen: Yeah, some of 'em don't seem to detect correctly.
[06:03] <stamen> after lsusb it founds it, but it isn't mountesd
[06:03] <jhutchins> MidMark: typo.
[06:03] <MidMark> jhutchins: what?
[06:03] <jhutchins> MidMark: n'mind.
[06:03] <Dave007> i have a question?
[06:03] <stamen> jhutchins:  bulgarin li si
[06:03] <jhutchins> stamen: Is the stick formatted with ntfs?
[06:04] <waylandbill> having a unix user doesnt necessarily mean you have a samba user. at some point, one of the dialogs should be calling smbpasswd to add the user to the samba database.
[06:04] <stamen> actualy it is my phone
[06:04] <stamen> :)
[06:04] <jhutchins> stamen: korganizer might find and mount it correctly then.
[06:04] <MidMark> waylandbill: ok I know and I repeat that I have created the user with smbpasswd -a <user> but it doesn't ask for it!!!
[06:04] <stamen> I will install it, an I will try
[06:05] <MidMark> when I access with smb:/ in konqueror i can see pc, I can view shared folders but I cannot enter because it doesn't ask for user&passw
[06:05] <stamen> if it is listed in /dev for what I have to look
[06:05] <stamen> as a device
[06:05] <waylandbill> MidMark: ok. I understand
[06:05] <jhutchins> stamen: Most likely it's /dev/sda
[06:05] <jhutchins> stamen: Unless you already have /dev/sda
[06:05] <stamen> but there is no thing like this :(
[06:06] <waylandbill> MidMark: you could try using smb4k and see if it prompts for the password.
[06:06] <jhutchins> stamen: Do dmesg or /var/log/messages say what the device is?
[06:06] <Dave007> how can i link mei notebook (with kubuntu) to a modem
[06:06] <stamen> jhutchins: the device is my phone with memorry card
[06:06] <MidMark> waylandbill: smb4k is a program?
[06:06] <jhutchins> MidMark: I think you might be able to use a url like smb://user:password@host
[06:06] <stamen> jhutchins: and it is conected thrue USB
[06:07] <waylandbill> MidMark: yes. you'd need to apt-get it
[06:07] <jhutchins> stamen: right.  GO to a console and type dmesg, see if you recognize anything useful.
[06:07] <BluesKaj> !smb4k
[06:07] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (edgy), package size 1176 kB, installed size 2984 kB
[06:07] <MidMark> jhutchins: try, but I cannot understand why in one pc it's ok in the other with the same kubuntu nope
[06:07] <MidMark> try smb4k
[06:08] <jhutchins> MidMark: different cookies.
[06:08] <stamen> jhutchins: I think I saw where is the prob.
[06:08] <stamen> I have recompiled the kernel, and I have removed SCSI support, and the problem is from this
[06:09] <stamen> jhutchins: am I wright
[06:10] <jhutchins> stamen: Yes, most USB storage devices are mounted using scsi emulation.
[06:11] <stamen> jhutchins: and they want SCSI support, are they?
[06:11] <jhutchins> stamen: Yes.
[06:12] <jhutchins> stamen: scsi support may help with CD/DVD support as well.
[06:12] <stamen> jhutchins: ok
[06:12] <stamen> jhutchins: I will recompile
[06:12] <BluesKaj> is there such a program that does text character recognition... I have an old document that i'm trying to scan , but the legibility is compromised due to it's age ...does anyone know if such program even exists ?
[06:12] <jhutchins> stamen: Since it's modular, it won't load and take up memory unless it's needed, so it's fine to leave it enabled.
[06:12] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Yes.
[06:13] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: sane should include ocr.
[06:13] <BluesKaj> ocr ? is that what that is ? ...DOH !
[06:13] <stamen> jhutchins: ok
[06:13] <BluesKaj> I have kooka
[06:13] <stamen> 10x
[06:14] <BluesKaj> and it has ocr
[06:14] <jhutchins> There's also gocr and ocrad.
[06:14] <hatta> someone should write one and call it ocrap
[06:15] <BluesKaj> hatta, is it crap ?
[06:17] <MidMark> waylandbill: with smb4k it ask for password but doesn't use it, it returns this error: "anonymous login successful, share dir doesn't exist"
[06:18] <MidMark> of course I don't know why anonimous login instead of user and password
[06:18] <MidMark> seems it wants to use anonymous everytime
[06:19] <BluesKaj> ok MidMark open kcontrol and find samba in the list , in samba you will see an option to share folders each folder is password protected so it waill ask for your password for each folder or dir that you want to share , but only once , and that's it
[06:19] <psb154> MidMark, you can set up your shares to be user specific or global.
[06:19] <psb154> or have I missed something, was away.
[06:20] <stamen> jhutchins: does usb needs RAID
[06:20] <MidMark> BluesKaj: try
[06:20] <stamen> jhutchins: I think it isn't
[06:23] <jhutchins> stamen: No, usb doesn't need raid.
[06:28] <guiden> HELP!
[06:29] <guiden> I want to programme qt stuff, but I don't know which package to install?
[06:37] <david> #kubuntu-es
[06:39] <provolik> hi to all
[06:39] <CaptainApathy> yo
[06:39] <provolik> Is there someone that can help me about scribus?
[06:39] <CaptainApathy> I can't... have you asked in there chatroom?
[06:39] <blue|palm> how do you make a folder writable by all applications?
[06:40] <provolik> Now I try
[06:40] <hatta> chmod ugo+w folder
[06:40] <blue|palm> hatta: can you do that from konqueror?
[06:40] <CaptainApathy> or chmod a+w folder
[06:40] <CaptainApathy> :P
[06:40] <blue|palm> CaptainApathy: Can you do that from konqueror
[06:40] <hatta> dunno, I don't use it
[06:40] <jhutchins> blue|palm: No, console.
[06:40] <blue|palm> jhutchins: thanks
[06:41] <hatta> I'm sure it can be done through konq
[06:41] <jhutchins> from a GUI filemanager, it woudl probably be accomplished through right-click/properties.
[06:41] <blue|palm> jhutchins: tried it, didnt make a difference
[06:41] <blue|palm> jhutchins: maybe i need a sudo konqueror to be able to do that?
[06:41] <hatta> yeah you have to be the owner of the directory in order to change its modes
[06:42] <jhutchins> blue|palm: Unless you own the files, probably.
[06:42] <blue|palm> jhutchins: i do
[06:42] <jhutchins> blue|palm: Don't use sudo for running GUI apps though, use kdesu instead.
[06:43] <blue|palm> jhutchins: gimp still cant overwrite the file though :(
[06:43] <blue|palm> jhutchins: does it work recursively?
[06:43] <jhutchins> 1)it's open for editing somewhere else, 2)it's still not set right.
[06:43] <blue|palm> jhutchins: does chmod work recursively through a folder
[06:43] <jhutchins> blue|palm: It will work recursively.  chmod -R <mode> <location>
[06:44] <jhutchins> chown might also be of interest.
[06:45] <blue|palm> jhutchins: it didnt work recursively because when i went into the folder (subfolder of the one i ran chmod on) and then ran chmod ugo+w * it worked...
[06:45] <blue|palm> jhutchins: oh it has to have -R thanks
[06:48] <marcelloDoItBeTt> hi! i need a little help.. how can i see .wmv file with kaffeine?? thnks
[06:52] <jhutchins> marcelloDoItBeTt: I don't know with kaffeine, but xine or mplayer should handle it.
[06:52] <jhutchins> !formats
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <jhutchins> !mp3
[06:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:52] <marcelloDoItBeTt> they don't in my kubuntu...
[06:52] <marcelloDoItBeTt> where can i download em?
[06:53] <jhutchins> marcelloDoItBeTt: see above
[06:54] <graft> is there a way to make some patch requests for builds for feisty?
[06:54] <graft> i.e., there's this 'transparent konsole' patch that there's pretty much no reason not to include
[06:56] <mauro> graft: im not sure, but i odn thtink its possible, you might wanna ask a MOTU
[07:02] <parkerw207> Is it possible to get speech recognition on linux ?
[07:04] <CaptainApathy> parkerw207: probably.  I don't know what packages you would need to install though
[07:04] <parkerw207> hmm i did instal what it hought was speech recognition but i couldnt findi it once it was installe dlol
[07:05] <CaptainApathy> hm... and it's not in the kde application list?
[07:06] <CaptainApathy> or in the system settings?
[07:08] <parkerw207> nope
[07:08] <CaptainApathy> hm... dunno then..
[07:10] <parkerw207> its ok
[07:16] <david> #kubuntu-es
[07:16] <jhutchins> Well, let's see, there's a speech reccognition interface for amarok, so I'd say there's speech recognition on linux somewhere.
[07:16] <tate> Hi, i have problems with my Inet connection. I have a 56 internal kbps modem and kubuntu don't recognize it, but ubuntu does. My first problem is that the app "KPPP (i guess)" didn't find the "resolv.conf" i need to create it, how can i do it? Is there any automatic modem search?
[07:16] <surgy> ok guys i have 3 things i need to do, 1: i need to format my secondary hdd 2: i need to run a complete system check on my kubuntu operating system to fix any errors there 3: i need to make a 100% complete backup of my kubuntu hdd onto my secondary hdd
[07:24] <lecci> hi
[07:24] <lecci> how i can compile a c++ file?
[07:24] <niklas> hi
[07:24] <hatta> gcc
[07:25] <CaptainApathy> do you have the g++ compiler?
[07:25] <surgy> anyone know the package name of the new sdl ?
[07:25] <surgy> !sdl
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <atphalix> install base-utils pack
[07:27] <surgy> atphalix: that will give me sdl 1.2+
[07:27] <surgy> ?
[07:27] <lecci> yes i have the g++ compiler...
[07:27] <CaptainApathy> lecci: then g++ filename.cpp
[07:28] <lecci> ok...try
[07:29] <jarino> ciao tutti!
[07:29] <Tessa> Hi, i have an Intel i915 graphics card. When i try to enable some GL screensavers, the screensaver itself just shows up in the upper part of the monitor. So i tried to look at my graphic hardware settings. i changed to administration mode and the window changed to a red frame but doesnt show any content. does anyone have an idea?
[07:29] <lecci> ty CaptainApathy!!!
[07:31] <surgy> ok when im compiling dosbox..... i got all the depencys right, ./configure goes through without errors..... then i tried ./make and it doesnt exsist :(
[07:31] <surgy> so now what?
[07:31] <_Schlumpf> surgy: try make
[07:31] <CaptainApathy> yeah, just make
[07:32] <surgy> cool thnx
[07:34] <surgy> after "make" what do i do?
[07:34] <surgy> install-sh ?
[07:35] <Tessa> make install
[07:35] <Tessa> sudo make install
[07:35] <surgy> and then?
[07:35] <CaptainApathy> use the program
[07:35] <X2B> Hey guys, I got one question: I wrote an init script to start lircd on my system and inserted it in /etc/init.d and with "update-rc.d scriptname defaults" I added it into the single rc.? dirs... So I got the links but it still won't work... What can I do?
[07:36] <Dr_willis> be sure its executable?
[07:36] <osum> hello
[07:36] <Dr_willis> id just toss the commands in the rc.local script myself.
[07:36] <Dr_willis> but im lazy
[07:37] <surgy> dr_willis: it works, my next question, is it installed in the source directory? or can i delete it? and if so will it mess it up to move the source directory?
[07:37] <X2B> it is -rwxr-xr-x
[07:37] <osum> ....test
[07:37] <X2B> just like all the others
[07:37] <osum> ok, bye
[07:37] <Alllex> Hi everyone- I was just wandering, what's the best C++ compiler for Linux (kubuntu 6.10)
[07:37] <Dr_willis> surgy,  if you did a 'sudo make install' then it installed whever it was confgured to install to.
[07:37] <X2B> Alllex: gcc
[07:37] <moparisthebest> gcc Alllex
[07:37] <X2B> g++
[07:38] <Alllex> Thanks
[07:38] <Dr_willis> is there any otehr C compiler?
[07:38] <Dr_willis> C++ even.. intel has some alternative dont they.. but other then that..
[07:38] <surgy> dr_willis: i just ran ./configure with no parameters, how do i know where it was configured to install?
[07:38] <Dr_willis> surgy,  watch what happens when you did a  make install
[07:38] <X2B> surgy: Or run: ./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix`
[07:38] <Dr_willis> if it was a kde app.
[07:39] <X2B> ok sry ^^
[07:39] <Dr_willis> im not sure what hes compiling exactly. :) but X2B  suggestion is often needed to compule the kde themes and other kde apps.
[07:39] <Dr_willis> and get them to install to the right place
[07:39] <surgy> dr_willis: thats alot..... any hints to narrow it down?
[07:39] <X2B> Well I have never compiled anything else by myself ^^
[07:40] <Dr_willis> surgy,  i LOOK at the output and see where it installs to..
[07:40] <surgy> i have just compiled dosbox
[07:40] <Dr_willis> if it installs to the wrong place i use the --prefix= option to fix it
[07:40] <surgy> dr_willis: im looking but it enters and leaves dozens of directories
[07:40] <Dr_willis> often i make things install to /home/myusername/opt
[07:41] <Dr_willis> surgy,  and the path to these dirs are? /usr/???  /opt/???
[07:41] <tate> Hi, i have problems with my Inet connection. I have a 56 internal kbps modem and kubuntu don't recognize it, but ubuntu does. My first problem is that the app "KPPP (i guess)" didn't find the "resolv.conf" i need to create it, how can i do it? Is there any automatic modem search?
[07:41] <X2B> but would rc.local work like a shell script?
[07:41] <Dr_willis> X2B,  it should. ive done a lot of things with rc.local
[07:41] <Dr_willis> X2B,  you dont need to use 'sudo whatever' in there either.
[07:41] <surgy> make[4] : Leaving directory `/home/surgy/Desktop/dosbox-0.65/src/hardware'
[07:41] <X2B> ok, i will try that thx
[07:41] <Alllex> Guys- do I just type in "gpp <filename>" into the cmd console? Because I'm getting alot of errors with my C++ files?
[07:41] <surgy> so it is installed in the source directory
[07:42] <Alllex> gcc*
[07:42] <Dr_willis> if you did a make install it should be copying some stuff to /usr/bin most likely. or /usr/local/bin (also common)
[07:42] <CaptainApathy> Alllex: try g++
[07:42] <Alllex> Command not find
[07:42] <Dr_willis> leaving --> it went to that dir.. and compiled stuff in there.. then went out and on to the next dir.
[07:42] <Alllex> gcc works- but has errors..
[07:43] <CaptainApathy> do you have a c++ compiler installed?
[07:43] <Alllex> Yeah- that could be the prob..
[07:43] <CaptainApathy> ok, install g++ :P
[07:43] <Alllex> Thanks- I assumed Kubuntu had one installed seeing as the gcc command worked- but... Heh..
[07:44] <CaptainApathy> gcc is standard for *nix, but not g++
[07:44] <Alllex> That would explain
[07:44] <Alllex> THanks
[07:44] <tate> Why ubuntu recognize my internal modem and kubuntu don't?
[07:46] <atphalix> I have a problem with the eagle-usb modem package shiped with ubuntu
[07:46] <atphalix> but I sucessfully instaled the modem from source
[07:46] <surgy> kewl moved directory and it works
[07:48] <Dr_willis> surgy,  but is it using the version you compiled.. or the older version in the repos
[07:49] <surgy> dr_willis: what is the version in the repos?
[07:49] <Dr_willis> !find dosbox
[07:49] <ubotu> Found: dosbox
[07:49] <Dr_willis> you decided to use the source.. befor checking if the repos were even up to date?
[07:49] <Dr_willis> !info dosbox
[07:49] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (edgy), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB
[07:50] <surgy> lol it is up to date both repos and my compile
[07:50] <Dr_willis> which seems to me TO be one of the few packages that is up to date...
[07:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:50] <Dr_willis> thats amazing..
[07:50] <surgy> dr_willis: i need to learn how to compile from source, so i chose a non essential thing :) and it turned out awsome
[07:51] <Dr_willis> my system is so screwy right now - i cant even isntall a lot of the dev packages and stuff.
[07:51] <atphalix> Dr_willis: it is the version that I compiled from the official eagle-usb site
[07:52] <surgy> dr_willis: how do i do a full system scan? im looking for something like scan disk
[07:52] <atphalix> the ubuntu package is broken
[07:52] <Dr_willis> surgy,  you are thinking in windows terms then.
[07:52] <Dr_willis> surgy,  when the linux system boots.. if it finds problems - it 'should' fsck the drives thus 'scandisk'ing them for errors
[07:52] <surgy> dr_willis: not exactly every thirty restarts it forces this type of check
[07:52] <Dr_willis> it WILL scan if it finds a problem
[07:53] <Dr_willis> or it should. :)
[07:53] <Dr_willis> the eveyr 30 is a 'force to check just in case' option.
[07:53] <surgy> ok
[07:53] <mildner> hi
[07:53] <surgy> now whats a good program to format my secondary hdd?
[07:53] <Dr_willis> just power off the system now with the disks all mounted.. and see what happens when you power up.
[07:53] <mildner> where can I get help in german?
[07:53] <pdinoto> Hi. Need help to diagnose a frecuent 1-2min desktop freeze on a Lenovo 3000 N100 laptop.
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !dr
[07:54] <Dr_willis> surgy,  mkfs is 'the' program to format drives. :)  unles sya want a fancy gui/partition tool like qtparted
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> no, tha's not it.
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> !dr
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> the bots are going nuts...
[07:54] <Dr_willis> well you format 'filesystems' that you make on the drives by partitioning the drive with fdisk. or similer.
[07:54] <atphalix> or qtparted
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <surgy> dr_willis: you know i want the gui :)
[07:56] <Dr_willis> surgy,  thats not what you asked for.. so Phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhht
[07:57] <Dr_willis> i could of had the thing fdisked and formating by the time it tool ya to ask the question.. :)
[07:57] <surgy> dr_willis: lol
[07:57] <Dr_willis> by the time the gui loaded even...
[07:57] <surgy> dr_willis: what backup program do you suggest?
[07:57] <Dr_willis> Depends on how/what your needs are - i tend to use 'mondo/mindi' to backup my whole system
[07:57] <Dr_willis> well work time for me. byee
[07:58] <surgy> dr_willis: i need something so that after i reinstall linux i can restore it to its exact condition as it is today with all my programs and everything
[07:58] <surgy> by :(
[07:58] <jeff_> HI, all.  Quick question about Kate and .kateproject files -- are they supported/used anymore?
[07:59] <jeff_> Or has that functionality been kind of taken over by the sessions?
[07:59] <atphalix> surgey: you need to save your disk to an iso image
[08:02] <surgy> atphalix: you have a 40gb disk?
[08:03] <rooi> anyone try triple boot on a macbookpro yet? (mac os x, win xp, kubuntu)
[08:03] <surgy> atphalix: i just want to be able to make a complete backup and have a complete restore when i need it including my gui settings my drivers my fstab my movies everything
[08:03] <blue|palm> Beryl: when using CTRL + ALT + LMB to rotate the cube, the windows zoom off the surface (quite a distance for me) i would like to lessen the distance they come off the face of the cube, is it possible?
[08:03] <surgy> blue|palm: try #beryl
[08:04] <blue|palm> surgy: no ones replying :( so i thought it try here
[08:04] <blue|palm> surgy: thanks tho
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> blue|palm: #ubuntu-effects ?
[08:05] <surgy> blue|palm i tried beryl and didnt like it or i whould help you :( sorry and best of luck
[08:05] <rooi> anyone install kubuntu using a swap file instead of a swap partition?
[08:06] <rooi> trying this out but am unable to get around having to format /
[08:07] <atphalix> what about installing into an ext3 file instead of partition?!
[08:08] <blue|palm> surgy: thanks
[08:08] <rooi> ?? didnt quite get ur question
[08:08] <blue|palm> Admiral_Chicago: lol, the only guy responding in there doesnt know
[08:08] <rooi> i've got a single partition that im trying to install on
[08:09] <rooi> have created the swap file on it
[08:09] <rooi> and am not following the install gui
[08:09] <rooi> it gets to a point where you pick the mount / and the partition /dev/sda3
[08:10] <rooi> it says you MUST reformat this, but if i do that then i lose my swap file
[08:10] <rooi> wondering if there is any way around this
[08:10] <rooi> sorry, few lines up - i AM following the install giu
[08:10] <rooi> gui too.
[08:11] <underdog5004> is there a modifier for ls to view hidden files?
[08:12] <rooi> ls -a
[08:12] <rooi> all hidden files with begin with a "."
[08:12] <rooi> ".imahiddenfile"
[08:16] <MidMark> at the end with one computer it ask for user and password with smb4k but it totally doesn't care about that, so I resolved with smb://user:password@pc
[08:17] <MidMark> but I still don't know why one computer try always anonimity instead of asks for user and password and USE them
[08:17] <MidMark> waylandbill: ^
[08:17] <MidMark> jhutchins: ^
[08:20] <nscad_nathan> anyone know if a firewall would block svn access?
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> nscad_nathan: no it shouldn1t
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> shouldnt*
[08:32] <ciga> hi
[08:32] <ciga> I have a double layered DVD-RAM (9.4GB). how do I use it with kubuntu?
[08:33] <mX> is it possible to make an installable preconfigured version of kubuntu?
[08:36] <soulrider> !help
[08:36] <soulrider> is the bot gone
[08:36] <soulrider> ?
[08:36] <soulrider> oh no
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider: yes
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> there he is
[08:37] <soulrider> no, i dont need help
[08:37] <soulrider> ahh :)
[08:37] <soulrider> !botsnack
[08:37] <soulrider> i just cant live without this bot
[08:37] <arriesp> bye people
[08:37] <soulrider> bye arriesp
[08:37] <soulrider> the bot sint really responding
[08:38] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:41] <tino_> hi all
[08:41] <tino_> I have a different question
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> ask
[08:42] <tino_> I look to a app for show all exported functions of a shared library
[08:43] <aseigo> nm
[08:43] <nscad_nathan> Admiral_Chicago  - I'
[08:44] <nscad_nathan> I'm trying to check out from svn.skolelinux.org and it doesn't connect
[08:44] <nscad_nathan> any ideas why that might be?
[08:44] <tino_> i have see the "Dependency walker" on windows
[08:44] <nscad_nathan> I am behind a schools firewall, which is why I thought that might be it
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> i can ping it, so it's not down
[08:44] <nscad_nathan> blarghhh
[08:45] <Admiral_Chicago> they might have blocked the port
[08:45] <tino_> can everyone help me?
[08:45] <soulrider> do they ahve kubuntu at yoour school ? or is this your computer
[08:46] <sittisal> tino_: ask
[08:46] <hatta> no, everyone can not help you
[08:46] <hatta> someone can help you maybe
[08:47] <tino_> Ok again. I have see on a windows client the App dependency walker and now i look on Ubuntu..
[08:47] <sittisal> tino_: if we don't know the question who can help you?
[08:48] <vontux> how do I format a thumbdrive that is in a file format not automounted by ubuntu?
[08:48] <sturts> anyone have xgl going on kubuntu?
[08:48] <sittisal> tino_: if you are italian and you have some difficult to explain contact me in pvt...
[08:49] <tino_> sittisal: no i are a swiss :->
[08:49] <sittisal> lol
[08:50] <sittisal> tino_: the question?
[08:50] <tino_> sittistal: Do you have an idea?
[08:50] <sittisal> what is the app dependency walker?
[08:51] <vontux> how do I format a thumbdrive that is in a file format not automounted by ubuntu?
[08:51] <tino_> sittisal:http://www.dependencywalker.com/
[08:51] <apollo2011> I am having some trouble with the ubuntu repos. I am trying to install the kde-devel package, but it won't install because there are some package dependencies that are not going to be installed. Can someone help me?
[08:51] <sturts> mount /dev/sda? /mnt/thumbdrive
[08:52] <hatta> you shouldn't format mounted volumes
[08:52] <sturts> apt-get build-dep xxx apollo
[08:52] <sittisal> tino_: ok... now it's clear
[08:53] <sittisal> i don't know if exist any kind of this software for linux
[08:53] <dr_> hhelo
[08:53] <tino_> oooh no.
[08:53] <sittisal> maybe ld
[08:54] <sittisal> yes...
[08:54] <dr_><PHONE_NUMBER>6666666666666666666666
[08:54] <sittisal> try ld from shel with a linux app
[08:54] <sittisal> shell
[08:54] <tino_> ld? Its not ldd?
[08:55] <apollo2011> sturts: I still get this output afterward: http://pastebin.com/881605
[08:57] <sturts> did you get an error when you did build-dep?
[08:57] <apollo2011> no
[08:57] <sturts> try that..
[08:57] <apollo2011> $ sudo apt-get build-dep kde-devel
[08:57] <apollo2011> Reading package lists... Done
[08:57] <apollo2011> Building dependency tree
[08:57] <apollo2011> Reading state information... Done
[08:57] <apollo2011> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[08:57] <apollo2011> ksut@Playroom1-Kubuntu:/usr/local/src/kpilot$
[08:58] <vontux> hatta: lets say that the drive I am trying to format is not in a format recognized by ubuntu, will it be in /dev?
[08:58] <sturts> yes
[08:58] <Lynoure> apollo2011: out of curiousity, are you on edgy or dapper?
[08:59] <apollo2011> edgy
[08:59] <vontux> sturts: thankyou
[08:59] <sturts> no prob
[08:59] <Lynoure> apollo2011: good (otherwise I would have told you kpilot is not syncing because of the kernel, not because of kpilot)
[09:00] <xubuntutester> hello
[09:00] <Lynoure> xubuntutester: there might be #xubuntu too, if you need it
[09:01] <apollo2011> Lynoure: ur very observant to figure out I was working on fixing kpilot :-)  I am trying to follow the directions in Linux Journal on how to fix it, and it says you may need to install kde-devel and I got a make error saying I was missing kde development files so I went to install that package, and it won't install
[09:01] <xubuntutester> in xubuntu they send me to here
[09:01] <xubuntutester> i try to start kasablanca but every time he says
[09:02] <xubuntutester> /usr/local/kde/bin/kasablanca
[09:02] <xubuntutester> kasablanca: cannot connect to X server
[09:03] <Lynoure> apollo2011: What kind of problem you have with it? I cannot probably help much, but I want to know what else is wrong with the palm stuff.
[09:03] <xubuntutester> i send ./configure ,make and make install as root
[09:03] <apollo2011> Lynoure: with installing kde-devel or with kpilot?
[09:03] <Lynoure> apollo2011: with kpilot
[09:04] <SolidSource> !ICQ
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[09:05] <casev01> hi
[09:05] <casev01> how can i install qmake?
[09:05] <casev01> i need some repo?
[09:05] <apollo2011> Lynoure: I know I had it working awhile ago, but I stop using my Palm Tungsten T, so I have tried syncing in awhile. I want to start using it again so I started up kpilot and now everytime I sync, new stuff on the Palm gets synced to the PC, but not vice versa. Sometimes, the entry on the PDA gets deleted, while it is retained on the PC. I have found several complaints on the Internet that this is a bug in the current Ubuntu version of kpilot. Linux
[09:05] <apollo2011>  Journal now has a fix for it, but obviously, I can't compile the new kpilot until I have the proper packages installed.
[09:06] <sturts> anyone have xgl going?
[09:06] <xubuntutester> noody a idea to my problem?
[09:06] <Lynoure> apollo2011: oh, that's irritating.
[09:08] <apollo2011> Lynoure: If ur interesed, here is the Linux Journal piece: http://pastebin.com/881621 I also found a bug for the kde-devel package problem: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/79101
[09:08] <casev01> nobody knows...
[09:09] <Lynoure> apollo2011: Good to hear it has been reported. Thanks
[09:11] <Huey> is there a way to find out which package was responsible for installing a certain file on the system?
[09:11] <ciga> dpkg -S somefile
[09:12] <rooi> is there a workaround for doing the install and not formatting the partition?
[09:13] <Lynoure> casev01: Did apt-cache search qmake  already/
[09:13] <Lynoure> ?
[09:16] <marcel> hi
[09:16] <Lynoure> casev01: If you have not, time to learn to use that command now :)
[09:16] <Lynoure> casev01: then do apt-cache show thefirstpackagenameshown
[09:17] <marcel> I am trying to install updates and I get a message "could not exec dpkg!"any ideas?
[09:20] <shadowhywind> is there someway to limit a programs usage of ram?
[09:21] <LjL> shadowhywind: i don't know. there is a way to limit an *user's* usage of RAM, though
[09:21] <shadowhywind> i don't want to limit the user as a whole, just one program.. mostly just Wine, becuase it likes eating all my ram
[09:22] <XVampireX> People, how can I change my accounts picture?
[09:25] <casev01> it doesnt find any package :(
[09:26] <KiPSeRoN> !vcd
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:27] <casev01> i found this... in spanish
[09:27] <casev01> http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/32331
[09:27] <soulrider> casev01: do you speak spanish? if not i could translate for you
[09:29] <duckdown> Hi all.. I need help from someone who knows the SSH command pretty good, is there an ssh support channel anywehre
[09:30] <casev01> yes
[09:30] <casev01> ;)
[09:30] <Lynoure> duckdown: just ask the question?
[09:31] <Lynoure> duckdown: ssh is common, many people know it pretty good.
[09:31] <duckdown> I would need help from someone with PuTTY so I can show them what I mean :(  it's probably a very simple solution, regarding syntax
[09:31] <Lynoure> casev01: It should find qt3-dev-tools
[09:32] <duckdown> I am using ssh -D#### to open a socks proxy from the host I SSH to, but in PuTTY i can click a box that says "allow outside users" as well, so another machine on my network can also use it.  But that port appears closed to anyone except that computer
[09:32] <duckdown> its just manipulating the ssh command some how to make it listen for all computers
[09:32] <casev01> yhx
[09:32] <casev01> thx
[09:36] <sturts> anyone running xgl?
[09:36] <jhutchins> duckdown: What is it you're trying to do?
[09:36] <duckdown> okay
[09:37] <jhutchins> duckdown: Do you want (all) other computers to be able to connect to your linux box?
[09:37] <HymnToLife> sturts, help for XGL in #ubuntu-effects please
[09:38] <duckdown> ya, if i have 2 computers, 'hive' and 'trace', then once 'hive' establishes an ssh connection to the vpn, hive can redirect applications to 'localhost:####' , but 'trace' cannot enter 'hive:####' because that port isn't listening to anybody except localhost
[09:38] <duckdown> in putty theres a little tick box
[09:38] <duckdown> that makes it listen for all computers rather than just the localhost
[09:39] <duckdown> im just using 'ssh -D#### my.outside.network.com'
[09:41] <lnxmomo> hi
[09:41] <lnxmomo> anyone hear?
[09:43] <HymnToLife> lnxmomo, about 350 people
[09:46] <casev01> mm, someone knows how to install uira?
[09:46] <hatta> I know how to install ufia
[09:46] <casev01> ufia?
[09:46] <hatta> it's a joke, nm
[09:46] <casev01> :s
[09:46] <casev01> xD
[09:47] <lnxmomo> hi
[09:47] <atidem> hello
[09:47] <lnxmomo> i am using 64 bit and i cnt seem to install kde themes using kcontrol. it says theme has no preview and wont apply it. i am trying to install this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=27578
[09:48] <lnxmomo> i untarred this b4 anyone says anything
[09:48] <sturts> I'm fucking bored
[09:48] <LjL> !ohmy
[09:48] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:48] <soulrider> lol  LjL
[09:49] <hatta> family friendly?  how does one get a family?
[09:49] <hatta> doesn't get much more friendly than that
[09:49] <sturts> how many familys run linux?
[09:49] <lnxmomo> mine does
[09:49] <soulrider> sturts: lots
[09:49] <x_link> Hi
[09:49] <lnxmomo> anyone answer my question?
[09:51] <gregd> not likely. svn over http is most common.
[09:51] <sturts> hey look its a cock but its smaller
[09:52] <MidMark> hi, someone know a program that can put a password into my pdf files?
[09:53] <sturts> google midmark
[09:53] <maku> do i need to do anything special to get amarok to play audio cds?
[09:53] <sturts> no
[09:53] <maku> mine wont recognize them
[09:53] <MidMark> sturts: wow I didn't know about google, now I will google about google
[09:53] <MidMark> anyone else?
[09:53] <omgponiezlol> anyone else have issues updating python on dapper
[09:54] <omgponiezlol> iirc, there was a fix for the edgy release
[09:54] <lnxmomo> can anyone tell me how i can get a mac os launcher thing at the bottom of my screen,
[09:54] <lnxmomo> not a superkaramba one
[09:54] <omgponiezlol> also, iirc the depends was python 2.4* not python 2.4=>
[09:55] <casev01> i need a flash editor in linux
[09:55] <casev01> someone knows one?
[09:55] <Lynoure> lnxmomo: mac os launcher?  It's not free software.
[09:57] <hellcattrav> oh
[09:57] <hellcattrav> xenol: can i install that with adept or synaptic?
[09:58] <atidem> casev01: f4l
[09:58] <hellcattrav> and i can't open that link
[09:58] <hellcattrav> error
[09:58] <Vuen> hi, has anyone managed to configure ktorrent to proxy tracker communications?
[09:58] <Vuen> it doesn't seem to want to do it here.
[09:58] <hellcattrav> never mind
[09:59] <javier> hola canijos
[10:00] <hellcattrav> ok should i include source repositories?
[10:03] <hellcattrav> ok idk what im doing
[10:03] <extern> what is the command to end a task?
[10:03] <atidem> extern: kill
[10:04] <theD3viL> why apollon dont want to connect to any gift-?[22:01:38]  (#) T@nChy (#) says:
[10:04] <theD3viL> papa =**
[10:04] <theD3viL> [22:01:55]  theD3viL says:
[10:04] <theD3viL> na kaj ??
[10:04] <theD3viL> [22:02:51]  theD3viL says:
[10:04] <theD3viL> js mam tud tebe rd ?!?!
[10:04] <theD3viL> [22:02:53]  theD3viL says:
[10:04] <theD3viL> na to?? =)
[10:04] <Bastok> Bonjour
[10:06] <julle> When i do a apt-get update it always hangs at 99% waiting for header, how do i fix this?
[10:07] <sturts> this apt has super cow powers!
[10:08] <ricmik> Hi! Does anyone know how I get java to work i firefox on Kubuntu?
[10:08] <hellcattrav> hey if i name a file school year 2006-2007 would that cause problems? if theres spaces?
[10:09] <ricmik> I have java-common installed
[10:09] <zorglu_> julle: seems a bad sources.list. one repository being unreachable
[10:09] <zorglu_> !source | julle
[10:09] <ubotu> julle: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[10:09] <dz70ftracker> !easysource
[10:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:09] <dz70ftracker> that might also be useful
[10:09] <zorglu_> julle: the link from dz70ftracker is likely more usefull indeed
[10:10] <julle> dz70ftracker: and zorglu_ thank you all!
[10:11] <zorglu_> !java | ricmik
[10:11] <ubotu> ricmik: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:12] <ricmik> zorglu_: I've already installed java-common with apt-get.. Azureus works, but it doesn't look like Firefox knows that it's installed..?
[10:14] <zorglu_> ricmik: you did what is explain on the page ?
[10:14] <ricmik> no, sorry
[10:14] <ricmik> I'll read it ;)
[10:14] <zorglu_> ricmik: good :)
[10:45] <extern> after the fglrx driver update, glxinfo says "direct rendering: no", it should be yes
[10:46] <extern> what might be wrong?
[10:48] <Alllex> Hi everyone- I hopefully- have just installed GPP onto Kubuntu 6.10
[10:48] <Alllex> Is there anyway I can check if it has been succesful?
[10:50] <equinoxeB> hy there...
[10:50] <ereslibre> hi... i have just installed kubuntu on my laptop (on desktop i have gentoo) and i wonder how to set up a wireless network with wpa protected password... i only can see wep...
[10:50] <equinoxeB> I can't manage to run XGL right...
[10:51] <equinoxeB> I have Beryl...
[10:51] <equinoxeB> and it's VERY SLOW
[10:51] <NightBird> ereslibre, me too :-\
[10:51] <NightBird> equinoxeB, are you using ati?
[10:51] <equinoxeB> yes...
[10:51] <equinoxeB> 8.32 prop drivers
[10:51] <equinoxeB> installed ok...
[10:51] <SpAwN> anyone know of a free service like no-ip's port 80 redirect?....my isp blocks port 80 and id like to run apache on a off number port. but the no-ip service either uses my ip in the adress bar or puts a border around the page
[10:51] <NightBird> ok... are they actually working?
[10:52] <equinoxeB> warcraft is workin' fine...
[10:52] <equinoxeB> :)
[10:52] <Alllex> Hi everyone- I hopefully- have just installed GPP onto Kubuntu 6.10
[10:52] <Alllex>  Is there anyway I can check if it has been succesful?
[10:53] <NightBird> so if you run fglrxinfo, it tells you you are using an OpenGL vendor string "ATI Technologies Inc."?
[10:53] <equinoxeB> yes, it does
[10:53] <NightBird> ok, are you telling xgl to use screen 1?
[10:53] <equinoxeB> oh
[10:53] <equinoxeB> damn
[10:53] <equinoxeB> it doesn't anymore...
[10:53] <equinoxeB> DAMN
[10:54] <NightBird> are you using xgl right now?
[10:54] <equinoxeB> no, kde...
[10:54] <NightBird> if so, then that is probably expected...
[10:54] <equinoxeB> yup
[10:54] <equinoxeB> it worked... :|
[10:54] <NightBird> the only reason why it wouldn't is because your graphics card supports multiple openGL instances...
[10:54] <equinoxeB> I had ATI :P
[10:54] <NightBird> ok, you'll need to fix the driver problem first
[10:54] <NightBird> :P
[10:55] <equinoxeB> I think I get MESA everytime I'm running adept
[10:55] <equinoxeB> and full upgrade...
[10:55] <equinoxeB> guess it overwrites my drivers...
[10:55] <NightBird> it shouldn't
[10:55] <equinoxeB> Is there a way to block MESA?
[10:55] <NightBird> I would check dmesg for errors from the ati driver trying to start up
[10:56] <equinoxeB> I mean... kill.... destroy...
[10:56] <equinoxeB> something REASLLY BAD...
[10:56] <equinoxeB> :P
[10:56] <NightBird> no, don't block mesa, just make sure ati works, and that it defaults to it
[10:56] <equinoxeB> I'll just reinstall the drivers... AGAIN... :|
[10:56] <NightBird> no
[10:56] <NightBird> check the messages
[10:57] <NightBird> there may be an message in there that tells you why it stoped working
[10:57] <equinoxeB> X logs?
[10:57] <NightBird> maybe, but try dmesg | grep fglrx
[10:59] <equinoxeB> something about card not DRI capable...
[10:59] <equinoxeB> I'll reinstall :)
[10:59] <NightBird> ok...
[10:59] <equinoxeB> 10x man.
[10:59] <equinoxeB> I'll be back and worship (if it works L) )
[10:59] <equinoxeB> :)
[10:59] <NightBird> I'm sure there is an easier way to do it then reinstalling, but if you want to do that, then have fun
[10:59] <equinoxeB> I don't want to.
[10:59] <NightBird> well... maybe not easier.... but a better way maybe
[11:00] <equinoxeB> but I don't have the master log skill :P
[11:00] <surgy> how do i assign a particular partition to a mount point?
[11:01] <surgy> i have a hard drive (sda) that i just formated and i saved my old mountpoint now i wish to remount the hdd to the old mountpoint how do i do this?
[11:02] <NightBird> surgy, I think you'll want to edit the /etc/fstab file
[11:02] <surgy> nightbird, i assumed that, but what exactly do i add?
[11:03] <NightBird> surgy, I'm.... not sure... :P
[11:03] <NightBird> can you mount it normally?
[11:03] <NightBird> like kubuntu auto mounts filesystems to /media/*
[11:04] <surgy> nightbird using the command sudo mount /storage            no becuase the new paritions are not set to the mount point /storage
[11:05] <surgy> here is my fstab http://pastebin.com/881697 wanna take a look?
[11:06] <NightBird> ok, do you know where the drive is located in the /dev/ directory?
[11:06] <surgy> nightbird: /dev/sda
[11:06] <NightBird> ok, have you tried mounting that to /storage?
[11:07] <surgy> how?
[11:07] <ricmik> One more question.. in Windows, backspace will navigate back in web-browsers (as well as shift-backspace navigates forward..) how can I change KDE to behave in the same way?
[11:07] <xenol> plz in this # chmod u+x /usr/sbin/stdsl.sh the # symbol means sudo?
[11:08] <surgy> xenol: no # means comment
[11:08] <NightBird> try "mount -t autofs /dev/sda /storage"
[11:08] <NightBird> (to surgy)
[11:08] <NightBird> or if you know the file system, you can tell it to use that filesystem instead
[11:08] <surgy> nightbird: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,
[11:09] <NightBird> is sda the physical drive, or the partition?
[11:09] <surgy> nightbird let me verify that? will you pm me to keep clutter down?
[11:10] <xenol> surgy: if i want to u se chmod i need to add it to stdsl.sh or just  type it to terminal?
[11:10] <surgy> xenol: got me there
[11:11] <xenol> surgy: my friend is having problems  with vigor318 adsl modem
[11:11] <surgy> xenol: never tried that i always had broadband......
[11:12] <xenol> surgy: well i need some help # chmod u+x /usr/sbin/stdsl.sh so it start evrytime he starts his kubuntu i need to add this to the stdsl.sh with kate ?
[11:13] <surgy> xenol: like i said twice i dont know
[11:13] <xenol> surgy: any ideas where i could get help plz?
[11:14] <surgy> !adsl
[11:14] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[11:14] <surgy> !help
[11:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:17] <Staren> adept says I have gcc installed -- How do I enable c++ support?
[11:18] <Gretl> Staren:  you called it with g++ ?
[11:18] <ricmik> are there any software that I can use to control CPU-speed on a Centrino processor?
[11:18] <Staren> I tried to compile a program I downloaded and it said cpp failed the sanity check.
[11:19] <Staren> google leads me to suspect this means c++ isn't enabled.
[11:19] <TheDebugger> Staren: g++ :)
[11:19] <Staren> I called it with ./configure
[11:19] <Staren> for the program. I'll check what that called...
[11:20] <Gretl> you have to install the essentials
[11:21] <Staren> g++ says command not found.
[11:21] <ken76> ciao
[11:21] <Staren> adept says the gcc package is installed though.
[11:21] <ken76> hello!!!
[11:22] <Gretl> Staren: you have to install the essential building tools
[11:22] <Gretl> look in adept for the whole package
[11:22] <jbranco> staren, you have to install g++
[11:22] <Staren> what is the package name? g++?
[11:22] <jbranco> yes
[11:22] <jbranco> search for that
[11:23] <Staren> Ah, thanks!
[11:23] <mrb137> anyone else running vmware with edgy run into a problem starting vmware server after latest linux-headers update?
[11:23] <TheDebugger> Staren: No..
[11:23] <TheDebugger> Staren: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:23] <TheDebugger> Staren: This will install everything you need
[11:26] <Staren> Thanks! Now it says
[11:26] <Staren> Err, it worked, but now it says it can't find something else.
[11:26] <Staren> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[11:27] <Staren> X is a rather vague description for it to give me... What's X?
[11:28] <cntb> howto bkp mbr and bootsector with dd command ?
[11:28] <jbranco> staren: sorry can't help you there, once i downloaded g++ i was able to compile c++ programs without problems
[11:28] <dabear> hi, ehm, do anyone know how i Can open links from chat to konqueror in a new tab, and not a new window?
[11:28] <Gretl> right click and select so
[11:29] <dabear> ont work
[11:29] <Gretl> ups sorry
[11:29] <dabear> wont
[11:29] <Gretl> yap sorry just saw that
[11:29] <dabear> that opens in a window, not tab...
[11:29] <ricmik> How can I control the speed of a speedstep processor.. anyone?
[11:30] <cntb> dabear solution IMHO is copy link to clipboard, open new tab paste address
[11:30] <dabear_> disconnected there...
[11:30] <dabear_> cntb, you said something more?
[11:31] <slyfox> Any idea what minutes does Kcron need? I get this
[11:31] <slyfox> kcronlomMha.tmp":1: bad minute
[11:31] <slyfox> errors in crontab file, can't install.
[11:31] <dabear_> that's what I'm doing now :p
[11:31] <surgy> how do i give permission to read + write +execute to all users for a given partition and mount point?
[11:32] <slyfox> surgy: fmode=0777 did you try that?
[11:32] <surgy> ummm is that the whole command?
[11:32] <slyfox> surgy: fmode=777
[11:32] <slyfox> surgy: not sure :) I am a noob maybe somethinkg like sudo chmod fmode=777
[11:33] <surgy> bash: fmode: command not found
[11:33] <Gretl> chmod
[11:33] <Gretl> you can use the gui in system settings
[11:34] <vcef> hi
[11:34] <vcef> how do I change default application for certain file extensions which is offered by firefox's open dialog?
[11:34] <surgy> hi
[11:34] <Gretl> or open konq as admin right click on file and adjust permissions
[11:35] <vcef> for example - I click on link to pdf file and dialog appears which asks me if I want to save the file or open it with default app
[11:35] <surgy> gretl: lol you dont know how funny that is to me :) but not an option at this point
[11:35] <vcef> and I want to change that default app from evince to kpdf
[11:36] <dabear_> web behaviour -> advanced  :D
[11:37] <dabear_> found it! open in tab when called externally ....
[11:39] <angasule> !soundblaster
[11:39] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[11:41] <vcef>  I want to change the default application which firefox offers me when I click on a link to pdf file and it asks wheter I want to save or open. How do I do that?
[11:43] <xenol> plz if i want one file to start after pc turns on i need to use chmod in konsole or edit that sh and add chmod there?
[11:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> in KPPP, how do I enable pulse dialing?
[11:51] <specialbuddy> is there a way to get the wireless assistant to work without entering my pass everytime?
[11:51] <xenol> how is that possible that i dont have enough persmissions to enter lost+found in my home?
[11:51] <NightBird> nope, it requires a super user's abilities
[11:52] <NightBird> er... that was to specialbuddy
[11:53] <specialbuddy> can I give myself super user abilities so I don't have to enter the pass because it's really annoying
[11:53] <NightBird> specialbuddy, it's possible, but strongly discouraged due to the massive abilities you give yourself to royally screw up your system
[11:53] <specialbuddy> yeah
[11:54] <specialbuddy> I just want it for that app
[11:54] <specialbuddy> not the rest
[11:54] <xenol> plz how can i make gziped backup using dd?
[11:55] <NightBird> I don't know of how to automate logging in for a certain program
[11:55] <angasule> do current linux drivers for the Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 support anything in hardware aside from MIDI? Does the 5.1 work well in both digital and analog?
[12:00] <morghanphoenix> what's the thing that monitors processes in KDE? Something is still running at 100% CPU and I need to kill it but don't know the process ID.
[12:01] <angasule> morghanphoenix: top runs in a console and will tell you, I guess there must be ktop or something...
[12:01] <flaccid> ksysguard
[12:01] <pwn4tt4ck> #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:01] <pwn4tt4ck> err
[12:01] <flaccid> ctrl + esc with kde default shortcuts
[12:01] <pwn4tt4ck> what is the offtopic?
[12:01] <pwn4tt4ck> that is
[12:01] <pwn4tt4ck> kthx
[12:01] <pwn4tt4ck> bye
[12:01] <NightBird> did you hear about the boxing pirate?  He had a killer left hook!
[12:01] <flaccid> bye bye
[12:02] <morghanphoenix> GNU Chess engine it was
[12:02] <flaccid> yeah that thing goes hectic
[12:02] <morghanphoenix> Knights didn't kill it when I quit
[12:02] <flaccid> i wish they would fix that up
[12:02] <flaccid> its annoying
[12:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> anyone here
[12:03] <flaccid> there is 322 nicks
[12:03] <NightBird> that there are
[12:03] <morghanphoenix> 322 by the count on the side of my client
[12:04] <flaccid> just reduced by one thanks to snikker
[12:04] <flaccid> hmm wb
[12:04] <dettoaltrimenti_> I'm trying to install drivers and I need to put file bcmwl5.inf into /usr/sbin but I don't have permission- how can I copy the file using the terminal
[12:04] <morghanphoenix> sudo cp it, or kdesu a konqeror session
[12:04] <flaccid> dettoaltrimenti_: sudo mv bcmwl5.in /usr/sbin
[12:05] <flaccid> yeah mv for move cp for copy
[12:05] <graft> wait, what?
[12:05] <graft> you need to copy bcmwl5.inf into /usr/sbin?!
[12:05] <snikker> flaccid: why thanks to snikker?
[12:05] <flaccid> yeah i don't know why you would need it