[15:01] <pitti> o/
[15:01] <tdaitx> \o
[15:02] <robru> o~
[15:03] <pitti> that's a very 31337 club today
[15:04] <tdaitx> seems so
[15:04] <pitti> hmm, postpone to next week then?
[15:05] <xnox> yeah....
[15:06] <pitti> ack, two week report next week it is :)
[15:06] <pitti> time for chasing down "OMGcloud images broken"
[15:08] <cyphermox> suup
[15:08] <cyphermox> so, are we postponing or what?
[15:08] <xnox> qui
[15:08] <robru> oh steve is off, somebody wanna take over this thing?
[15:08] <pitti> cyphermox: I thought so when 5 mins into the meetting just three people waved
[15:08] <pitti> apparently more people are coming in now, so we can still have it
[15:08] <robru> who knows how the bot works?
[15:09] <pitti> #startmeeting
[15:09] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep  1 15:09:16 2016 UTC.  The chair is pitti. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:09] <pitti> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk)
[15:09] <pitti> tdaitx pitti bdmurray chiluk slangasek infinity barry doko cyphermox caribou xnox robru sil2100
[15:10] <tdaitx> = OpenJDK security update
[15:10] <tdaitx> - Further fixes on OpenJDK 6 since now g++ also segfaults when building it on Trusty/arm64
[15:10] <tdaitx> - Added patches to fix headers with pch disabled
[15:10] <tdaitx> - Added watch file + repack script
[15:10] <tdaitx> - Moved package source format to 3.0 (quilt)
[15:10] <tdaitx> = Helping on -proposed
[15:10] <tdaitx> - mozart requires autoconf2.13 which generates code that is unusable by gcc 6 (due to a different output from "g++ -E conftest.C"); not sure how to proceed: patch configure, update to newer autoconf (how?), or what?
[15:10] <tdaitx> - fixing repsnapper FTBFS on powerpc/ppc64el;
[15:10] <tdaitx>    * replace abs(double) with std::abs(double) - but why does abs(double) works fine on the other archs? (LP: #1619289)
[15:10] <tdaitx>    * powerpc/ppc64el missing TCGETS2 - what is the right fix? why is this even needed? (LP: #1619100)
[15:10] <tdaitx> = Other
[15:10] <tdaitx> - Is it my impression or the builders are taking longer to get stuff from the ppas? Even with free build machines and a free queue it takes quite a while to start.
[15:10] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:10] <pitti> autopkgtest:
[15:10] <pitti>  - Move result web UI from gazillions of plain files to sqlite and dynamic page generation, as debci kept running out of inodes and suffered from multi-hour delays. New sqlite+flask app now takes 0.1%(!) of the disk space, 10% of the code, and 30 seconds for each update run.
[15:10] <pitti>  - Fix "apt-get source" version detection for single-line "Package-List:"
[15:10] <pitti>  - britney: Implement Testsuite-Triggers:; should hopefully pinpoint regressions better
[15:10] <pitti> netplan:
[15:10] <pitti>  - Add support for bonds, VLAN, and wifi with wpasupplicant+networkd (#1616928)
[15:10] <pitti>  - -Correctly handle DHCP defaults in NM (#1617051)
[15:10] <pitti>  - Read config from /lib/netplan/ for policies shipped in packages
[15:10] <pitti> distro:
[15:10] <pitti>  - initramfs: Fix rootdelay interpretation (#1615751)
[15:10] <pitti>  - merges: iptables
[15:10] <pitti> misc:
[15:10] <pitti>  - meeting: Integrate ubuntu system touch tests with the CI train
[15:11] <pitti>  - meeting: package install in cloud init
[15:11] <pitti>  - patch pilot shift on Friday
[15:11] <pitti>  - Learn basics about snapd, file some bugs (#1618198, #1618206, #1618207)
[15:11] <pitti> END
[15:11] <pitti> tdaitx: thanks for helping wit -proposed!
[15:11] <pitti> networking, PPAs, Launchpad publisher etc. all have taken ages for two or three days now
[15:11] <pitti> indeed it seems the Canonical DC has some trouble
[15:11] <bdmurray> invetigation into errors when updating HWE stack on Trusty
[15:11] <bdmurray> reviewed all Xorg HWE stack bug reports
[15:11] <bdmurray> subscribed teams to Xorg HWE stack packages
[15:11] <bdmurray> updated 14.04 HWE EoL wiki page w/ references to fglrx deprecation
[15:11] <tdaitx> pitti, long overdue, trying to catch up now =)
[15:11] <bdmurray> added fglrx warning to hwe-support-status / update-manager
[15:11] <bdmurray> updated xorg-server-lts-xenial to conflict w/ fglrx
[15:11] <bdmurray> SRU verification of LP: #1617080, LP: #1617448
[15:11] <bdmurray> uploaded livecd-rootfs SRU for X for LP: #1561250, LP: #1565985
[15:11] <bdmurray> reviewed / approved ubuntu-archive-tools mp regarding team changes
[15:11] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:12] <cyphermox> chiluk_: ?
[15:13] <xnox> pass -> see email no?
[15:13] <cyphermox> ah
[15:13] <xnox> slangasek, out
[15:13] <xnox> infinity not on irc
[15:13] <xnox> barry is also out, no?
[15:13] <cyphermox> barry isn't around either AFAIK
[15:13] <doko> barry is away too
[15:13] <xnox> doko =)
[15:14] <doko> - gcc-6 and binutils updates
[15:14] <doko> - gcc Linaro snapshot merge and build, trying to get some transitions done
[15:14] <doko> - MIR's, FTBFS, cleaning update-excuses
[15:14] <doko> - openjdk-9 build, forwarding bug reports
[15:14] <doko> - gdb 7.12
[15:14] <doko> - llvm toolchain updates
[15:14] <doko> - some python module updates
[15:14] <doko> - fight with autopkg testers ...
[15:14] <doko> - gave back failed builds in yakkety and yakkety-proposed
[15:14] <doko> - launchpad is slooowwwww
[15:14] <doko> (done)
[15:14] <cyphermox> grub:
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - still working on unbreaking grub2 built with binutils 2.27
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - more testing of IPv6 PXE boot in UEFI and sync with lamont
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - testing grub builds with binutils 2.26.1
[15:14] <cyphermox> console-conf:
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - tweaks for serial/VT console gettys to behave correctly
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - various bug fixes for inclusion on the snap images
[15:14] <cyphermox> ubiquity:
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - testing SRUs including HiDPI scaling fixes and SecureBoot UI
[15:14] <cyphermox> network-manager:
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - needs more work for VPN DNS nameservers in split-tunnel mode
[15:14] <cyphermox> ubuntu-image:
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - figuring out how this works and fixing up cloud-init preseeding
[15:14] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:15] <pitti> I get about 50 kB/s from archive.ubuntu.com (normally about 2.5 MB/s)..
[15:15] <xnox> actually email was from caribou, not from chiluk....
[15:15] <cyphermox> pitti: it's not just you
[15:15] <xnox> short week - monday was a bank holiday
[15:15] <xnox> finished all the zua feature work for now, all up to date in the ppa
[15:15] <xnox> helping fixing adt tests in openstack things, to fix s390x regressions (in progress, some will land with b3 uploads)
[15:15] <xnox> gpg2 -> gpg transition
[15:15] <xnox> ..
[15:15] <cyphermox> wha?
[15:15] <cyphermox> oh, nvm
[15:15] <pitti> he meant "<-" :)
[15:15] <cyphermox> he may have meant just dropping the 2.
[15:15] <pitti> oh, you meant renaming
[15:16]  * xnox meant just dropping the 2 =)
[15:16] <cyphermox> wee
[15:16] <xnox> gpg is now gpg2, gpg2 is now symlink to gpg
[15:16] <cyphermox> that means I can remove some scripts here.
[15:16] <pitti> let's all discuss for 15 minutes which direction the arrow should be
[15:16]  * pitti can kill his ~/bin/gpg symlink \o/
[15:16] <cyphermox> yeah
[15:16] <cyphermox> now the yubikey GPG magic is a first-class citizen
[15:17] <robru> lp:bileto
[15:17] <robru> - git support (in production but busted pending firewall fixes)
[15:17] <robru> - ignore no-change rebuilds in dest archive
[15:17] <robru> - ephemeral PPAs (in production but not usable yet)
[15:17] <robru> (done)
[15:18] <pitti> robru: oh, you are trying git clones from a ProdStack instance?
[15:18] <robru> pitti: git fetching and pushing, but yes
[15:18] <pitti> robru: (I banged my head on teh wall about that for too long and gave up)
[15:18] <robru> pitti: is there some secret?
[15:18] <pitti> robru: I do it in scalingstack instances now
[15:18] <robru> pitti: there is simply no giving up, we need this
[15:18] <pitti> PS is too annoyingly paranoid
[15:18] <cyphermox> robru: "- ignore no-change rebuilds in dest archive"  how do you do that?
[15:18] <pitti> Laney has discussed something like this with IS for ages
[15:19] <pitti> no sil2100 either
[15:20] <robru> cyphermox: we download the DSC of the latest version in trunk's changelog, and then we download the DSC of the latest version in distro, debdiff them, and filterdiff out debian/changelog. if the result is an empty file, we ignore that. if the result has nonzero size, we report the error (preventing publication), and insist the user sync this change back to
[15:20] <robru> trunk and rebuild.
[15:20] <cyphermox> ah, right
[15:20] <pitti> ♪ where have all the developers gone? long time passing ♪ ♫
[15:21] <Laney> pitti: robru: If you just need a whitelist of domains, you can get IS to add that for you in squid
[15:22] <Laney> assuming HTTP
[15:22] <Laney> for git://, dunno
[15:22] <robru> Laney: no we specifically need fetching and pushing for git+ssh
[15:22] <tdaitx> so, any easy way to deal with a package that requires autoconf-2.13 when that autoconf generates stuff don't work on gcc6?
[15:22] <pitti> tdaitx: ugh, 2.*13*?
[15:22] <pitti> I didn't know that dinosaurs were still alive :)
[15:23] <tdaitx> yeah, the package/project has not seem an update in quite a few years
[15:23] <pitti> (autoconf 2.13 released in 1998 :) )
[15:23] <pitti> tdaitx: remove-package ?
[15:24] <tdaitx> you tell me =)
[15:25] <pitti> oh dear, firefox and thunderbird use it
[15:25] <pitti> they didn't even exist yet when 2.13 was already obsolete..
[15:25] <pitti> tdaitx: so, I'm afraid everything will be "not easy" at this point :(
[15:26] <Laney> does it really require 2.13?
[15:26] <pitti> tdaitx: best might be to not run autoconf2.13 at boot, but have a good old debian/patches/99_autotools.pathc with the pregenerated stuff
[15:26] <Laney> convert to something more modern :)
[15:26] <pitti> tdaitx: and then maybe some extra 99.1_autoconf2.13_quirks.patch to fiddle with Makefile.in to work with gcc-6
[15:26] <pitti> but obviously, converting to 2.50 is best ;)
[15:27] <tdaitx> well, I can't regenerate anything there with a newer autoconf, I would have to update it
[15:27] <pitti> regenerate with 2.13, I mean
[15:27] <pitti> tdaitx: which package are we talknig about, btw?
[15:27] <tdaitx> pitti, mozart
[15:27] <pitti> we should at least yell at  upstream about that
[15:27] <pitti> this is like "don't build me"
[15:32] <tdaitx> pitti, meh, I was stupid to trust the launchpad page, it says "Mozart — Content Management Framework based on JAVA.", but control file has "Mozart Programming System"
[15:32] <tdaitx> the programming system is now at mozart 2.0, 1.4 is not being used any longer
[15:33] <tdaitx> the mozart content management framework is dead, doesn't even have a project page any longer
[15:34] <pitti> any other business?
[15:34] <pitti> let's formally close this
[15:34] <pitti> #endmeeting
[15:34] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Sep  1 15:34:34 2016 UTC.
[15:34] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-09-01-15.09.moin.txt
[15:36] <pitti> tdaitx: and mozart has no reverse dependencies, so removal candidate
[15:36] <tdaitx> pitti, agreed
[15:36] <pitti> tdaitx: except that it does not actually build-depend on autoconf2.13
[15:37] <tdaitx> pitti, it does not because that is not run during the build, it reuses the pre-generated stuff
[16:11] <robru> pitti: wait, you said git clone is impossible from prodstack? I do it already in staging instance!
[20:00] <elacheche_anis> o/
[20:01] <pavlushka> elacheche_anis o/
[20:01] <elacheche_anis> Hey pavlushka :)
[20:01] <pavlushka> Hello elacheche_anis :)
[20:02] <dipraw> um here!:-)
[20:02] <elacheche_anis> We start in a sec..   The chair is iulian. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[20:06] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[20:06] <iulian> #voters popey elacheche_anis Kilos iulian
[20:06] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos elacheche_anis iulian popey
[20:06] <iulian> #voter ahoneybun
[20:06] <iulian> #voters ahoneybun
[20:06] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos ahoneybun elacheche_anis iulian popey
[20:06] <ahoneybun> heyo all
[20:06] <ahoneybun> sorry about that
[20:06] <Kilos> hi ahoneybun
[20:07] <ahoneybun> hey Kilos
[20:07] <pavlushka> hello ahoneybun :)
[20:07] <ahoneybun> hey pavlushka
[20:07] <pavlushka> Hello iulian :)
[20:07] <dipraw> hey ahoneybun
[20:07] <ahoneybun> lots of people today
[20:07] <dipraw> hi*
[20:07] <ahoneybun> heyo dipraw
[20:07] <Kilos> ty for chairing iulian
[20:07] <iulian> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting!
[20:08] <walrider> ty very much
[20:08] <walrider> happy to be here
[20:08] <iulian> Apparently we just have one applicant so this should be quick.
[20:08] <iulian> Hello pavlushka.
[20:08] <dipraw> it's a pleasure!
[20:08] <dipraw> okay
[20:08] <pavlushka> Hello iulian :)
[20:09] <iulian> pavlushka: Would you mind telling us a bit about yourself?
[20:09] <Kilos> wait
[20:09] <Kilos> oh sorry im slow
[20:09] <Kilos> go ahead pavlushka
[20:09] <pavlushka> iulian: sure, I am S. M. Pavel Sayekat from Bangladesh.
[20:10] <pavlushka> my LP is https://launchpad.net/~pavelsayekat
[20:10] <pavlushka> and my wiki is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/pavelsayekat
[20:10] <iulian> Is there anyone here who wants to show their support for Pavel?
[20:11] <NaSb> Yes count me in :)
[20:11] <iulian> Hi there NaSb.
[20:11]  * elacheche_anis supports pavlushka
[20:11] <nawaf> me too
[20:11] <walrider> #voteforpavl
[20:11]  * pavlushka nods
[20:11] <zaki> hey iulian here i'm supporting pavlushka
[20:12]  * Kilos supports pavlushka
[20:12] <walrider> im supporting pavlushka
[20:12] <dipraw> #voteforpavlushka
[20:12] <elacheche_anis> walrider: that'll not work :)
[20:12] <iulian> Yay!
[20:12] <iulian> Cool, thanks everyone.
[20:12] <walrider> whats the command iulian ?
[20:12] <dipraw> i also vote for pavlushla
[20:12] <elacheche_anis> walrider: only iulian can use the command
[20:12] <nawaf> he is always willing to help others, i am supporting pavlushka
[20:13] <walrider> oh ok
[20:13] <walrider> i am supporting pavlushka
[20:13] <dipraw> pavlushka is always eager to help
[20:14] <dipraw> and he haven't let me down till now
[20:14] <popey> pavlushka: http://imgur.com/a/ElsL9 was nice to see!
[20:14] <popey> flexiondotorg: ^ Ubuntu MATE in a small business in Bangladesh
[20:14] <walrider> pavlushka 100% dedicated and always eager to help other
[20:15]  * ahoneybun thinks popey is bias in his love of MATE
[20:15] <pavlushka> like to mention my irc contributions http://paste.ubuntu.com/23121519/
[20:15] <Kilos> lol
[20:15] <popey> ahoneybun: I love all ubuntu flavours :)
[20:15] <dipraw> ha ha ha
[20:15] <pavlushka> and http://paste.ubuntu.com/23121528/
[20:16] <popey> pavlushka: what's the next big thing for you?
[20:16] <pavlushka> thanks popey I am overwhelmed :)
[20:16] <popey> What big project would you like to take on?
[20:16] <pavlushka> popey: The LoCo and its site
[20:16] <pavlushka> to revive
[20:16] <ahoneybun> loco.ubuntu.com?
[20:17] <pavlushka> BD LoCo
[20:17] <popey> Awesome. I watched a TV programme about Bangladesh last night, looks like a beautiful place.
[20:17] <pavlushka> Bangladesh
[20:17] <ahoneybun> oh your LoCo
[20:17] <pavlushka> yes ahoneybun :)
[20:18] <pavlushka> sorry for incomplete drafting of irc logs :(
[20:18] <iulian> Okey dokey. Thank you very much for your answers pavlushka.
[20:18] <iulian> I think we are now ready to vote.
[20:18] <popey> pavlushka: it's fine, most people don't provide all those irc logs, it's fun to read :)
[20:19] <iulian> #vote pavlushka for Ubuntu membership
[20:19] <meetingology> Please vote on: pavlushka for Ubuntu membership
[20:19] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:19] <elacheche_anis> +1 Keep the good work pavlushka :)
[20:19] <meetingology> +1 Keep the good work pavlushka :) received from elacheche_anis
[20:19] <iulian> +1
[20:19] <meetingology> +1 received from iulian
[20:19] <ahoneybun> +1 always for LoCo work
[20:19] <meetingology> +1 always for LoCo work received from ahoneybun
[20:19] <AudaciousTUX> -1
[20:19] <walrider> +1
[20:19] <Kilos> +1 Keep it up lad, you are doing great work
[20:19] <meetingology> +1 Keep it up lad, you are doing great work received from Kilos
[20:19] <elacheche_anis> Just for the records, wxl and belkinsa voted +1 as well.. :)
[20:19] <NaSb> +1 from NaSb
[20:20] <elacheche_anis> NaSb: only board members can vote :)
[20:20] <dipraw> vote for pavlushla
[20:20] <popey> +1
[20:20] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[20:20] <iulian> #endvote
[20:20] <meetingology> Voting ended on: pavlushka for Ubuntu membership
[20:20] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:20] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:20] <Kilos> only membership board can vote guys
[20:20] <popey> excellent contributions pavlushla! Thank you!
[20:20] <walrider> +1
[20:20] <pavlushka> and we have AudaciousTUX from Bangladesh too :)
[20:20] <elacheche_anis> Congrats pavlushka :)
[20:20] <iulian> Congratulations pavlushka and welcome aboard!
[20:20] <popey> \o/
[20:20] <Kilos> congrats pavlushka welcome on board
[20:20] <ahoneybun> sweet stuff pavlushka
[20:20] <popey> Thanks to those who came to support pavlushka too :)
[20:20]  * pavlushka nods to all
[20:20] <walrider> congrats from dhaka
[20:21]  * pavlushka thanking all for their support :)
[20:21] <dipraw> congratulations!!!!!!! bro!!!
[20:21] <iulian> That's all folks. Thanks very much for attending, especially the guys who showed their support for pavlushka!
[20:21] <iulian> #endmeeting
[20:21] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Sep  1 20:21:19 2016 UTC.
[20:21] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-09-01-20.06.moin.txt
[20:21] <Kilos> thanks for chairing iulian and thanks board members
[20:21] <popey> \o/
[20:22] <popey> nice one
[20:22] <dipraw> yeah thanks to all! :-D
[20:22] <walrider> GG
[20:22] <NaSb> Thanks all of you Board members :)
[20:23] <Kilos> we are here to serve
[20:23] <nawaf> thank you everyone for being here :)
[20:23] <Kilos> and normally give applicants a hard time
[20:23] <pavlushka> lol @ Kilos
[20:23] <pavlushka> missing belkinsa
[20:23] <Kilos> yip
[20:24] <dipraw> and yeah i guess i didn't mix up this time!!!
[20:24] <pavlushka> dipraw: really?
[20:24] <dipraw> did i?
[20:24] <dipraw> :/
[20:24] <pavlushka> dipraw: ok, you did good :)


[20:21] <melodie> hi
[20:21] <melodie> has anyone noticed an issue with laptop-mode-tools in Trusty?
[20:21] <melodie> I posted here not long ago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/laptop-mode-tools/+bug/1475951
[21:29] <melodie> hi, I added a comment to the bug #1475951


[03:43] <yao_ziyuan> i think the no.1 problem in gnome is probably the desktop icon text color
[03:43] <yao_ziyuan> it's white and just doesn't work with light wallpapers
[03:43] <yao_ziyuan> i found a perfect solution
[03:43] <yao_ziyuan> put a gtkrc-2.0 file in your home dir with this content: http://fpaste.org/jpvP/
[03:44] <yao_ziyuan> this will set your desktop icon text color to black, and put a 50%-translucent round-cornered box around the text
[03:44] <yao_ziyuan> the purpose is that whether your wallpaper is dark or light, desktop icon text will always be highly contrasted
[03:44] <yao_ziyuan> i recommend it be a default configuration for ubuntu
[04:32] <elky> yao_ziyuan, i think you're looking for #ubuntu-artwork
[13:03] <pep`> meh... a red hat developer has my nick now :)


[01:04]  * BUGabundo $ sle -ep; echo load /dev/urandom /dev/eyes
[05:22] <Bookman> I don't seem to be able to install the ubuntuone-client on my computer.  I installed the PPA with no issued and when I go to install the client, nothing happens.  I try again and the install window pops up.  I try install and it says that Synaptic is already running in non-interactive mode.  I never encountered this on my other computer.
[07:40] <wers> syncdaemon is eating 1.9gb of my ram. wow
[11:35] <thisfred> http://jchrisa.net/drl/_design/sofa/_show/post/p2p-Web-OSCON
[13:25] <jblount> *sniff*
[13:25]  * jblount may need to go purchase some DayQuill
[13:27] <Chipaca> DayQuill?
[13:27] <Chipaca> sounds like something on a duck
[13:28] <CardinalFang> Portuguese porcupine.
[13:28] <jblount> Chipaca: My spelling goes out the window when my nose is stuffed up.
[13:28] <CardinalFang> He does type funny.
[13:28] <Chipaca> oh, great, so now we have to spellcheck your css?
[13:28] <Chipaca> :-P
[13:30] <diverse_izzue> is it correct that changes (uploads) to the webfrontend are not directly pushed to the client, but only after reconnecting?
[13:31] <jblount> diverse_izzue: Currently, yes.
[13:32] <diverse_izzue> ok. and is it known that the webfrontend looks completely distorted using webkit browsers?
[13:32] <Chipaca> diverse_izzue: the api server the client connects to is not notified of the uploads done via web
[13:32] <Chipaca> diverse_izzue: you can work around it by using u1sdtool --refresh
[13:33] <jblount> diverse_izzue: On my webkit browsers, it looks reasonably similar, however we'll be moving to a new front end for the web soonish.
[13:34] <diverse_izzue> jblount, i'll test the new one then and get back to you if i still have issues.
[13:35] <jblount> diverse_izzue: That'd be great, thanks!
[15:01] <jblount> MEETING BEGINS
[15:01] <jblount> If you are here to party (where party == have the desktop+ meeting), say me
[15:01] <jblount> me
[15:01] <teknico> me
[15:01] <rodrigo_> me
[15:02] <statik> me
[15:02] <dobey> me
[15:02] <jblount> vds, urbanape, CardinalFang ?
[15:02] <vds> me
[15:02] <urbanape> me
[15:03] <jblount> DONE: Distracted by statik on css stuff while urbanape fixed my deleting files branch
[15:03] <jblount> TODO: remove as much blockage from new ui as possible
[15:03] <jblount> teknico: rocknroll
[15:03] <CardinalFang> me, dawg.
[15:03] <jblount> BLOCKED: Nope
[15:03] <teknico> DONE: planned story-0019 with markgsaye, rebuit the stacked repo
[15:03] <teknico> TODO: getting the testing scripts branch landed through the fire of unrelated test errors, check service/subscription when syncing phone
[15:03] <teknico> BLOCKED: slowed down by branch corruption due to slowbook crashes
[15:03] <teknico> next: rodrigo_
[15:04] <jblount> rodrigo_: Your turn :)
[15:05] <rodrigo_> DONE: continue packaging stuff in openSUSE BS. Landed become-tomboy-friend branch
[15:05] <rodrigo_> TODO: more opensuse packaging. OAuth fixes for tomboy. Evo-couchdb work
[15:05] <rodrigo_> BLOCKED: 4 branches still need review :)
[15:05] <rodrigo_> lost who's next, sorry, when leaving and rejoining
[15:05] <statik> me
[15:05] <statik> DONE: Worked on CSS with jblount, learned some neat tricks for debugging CSS.
[15:05] <statik> TODO: Make an ubuntu package for lp:bindwood. publish desktop-contacts python module.
[15:05] <statik> BLCK: None.
[15:05] <rodrigo_> statik I think it was
[15:05] <statik> next is dobey
[15:05] <dobey> DONE: Fixed DBus mainloop issue in client, Fixed new nautilus crasher
[15:05] <dobey> TODO: Reviews, IOError in client, Plan client repo upgrades to 1.9-rich-root and 2a, #378707
[15:06] <dobey> BLCK: None.
[15:06] <dobey> vds: you're up
[15:06] <vds> DONE: yesterday face duty, today on-call review, landed the two branches blocked by pqm failures One branch still not passing...
[15:06] <vds> TODO: continue on couchdb db snapshots
[15:06] <vds> BLOCKED: nope
[15:06] <vds> your turn urbanape
[15:06] <urbanape> DONE: Submitted initial deletion branch, cut a new branch for new shares, submitted a few bug tickets.
[15:06] <urbanape> TODO: Finish new shares branch, return to sharing UI branch, tidy up files list on delete.
[15:06] <urbanape> BLOCK: Nope.
[15:06] <urbanape> Nobody expects the CardinalFang!
[15:06] <CardinalFang> Thank you, sir.
[15:06] <CardinalFang> DONE: Minor fixes to desktopcouch.  Harassed folks about package upgrades sticking.  Pondered pairing tool while thrashing at karmic breakage.
[15:06] <CardinalFang> TODO: Get spawning tested on edge; merge some code that will let us test it.  Add simple DBUS call to pairing tool that gets port.  Pick up mail transactions again, grr.  Ya rly.
[15:06] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: Karmic breakage of dev environment.
[15:06] <CardinalFang> EOL
[15:06] <jblount> MEETING ENDS
[15:07] <jblount> Well done you DONE: Distracted by statik on css stuff while urbanape fixed my deleting files branch engineers!
[15:07] <jblount> TODO: remove as much blockage from new ui as possible
[15:07]  * jblount scowls at copy and paste
[15:07] <urbanape> it is a tricky technology
[15:08] <statik> i finally got my keys remapped nicely on the laptop last night, have been making plenty of copy n paste errors since then
[15:08] <statik> changed caps lock to control, and command to alt
[15:08] <jblount> I can't not blame my beloved command key
[15:08] <statik> hopefully that helps with the screaming pain in my thumb
[15:22] <CardinalFang> statik, "ubunet-database-dependencies" lists postgresql 8.3.  Can 8.4 work?  That's what is new in Karmic.
[15:27] <statik> CardinalFang: i don't know whether it's been tried yet. migrating would be fine with me, if we can do it in an orderly way and get 8.4 deployed in production
[15:44]  * CardinalFang boggles.
[15:45] <CardinalFang> Is "make start" really working for everyone else?
[15:45] <CardinalFang> statik, Please paste "lsof -i4TCP@localhost | cut -d" " -f7 | cut -d "," -f1) | grep "TCP " | grep LISTEN | awk \'{print $8}\' | cut -d":" -f2 | grep beam"
[15:51] <CardinalFang> statik, or, better,   lsof -i4TCP@localhost | grep beam
[15:52] <CardinalFang> jblount, ^
[15:52] <CardinalFang> Anyone?
[15:54] <jblount> CardinalFang: beam.smp 26496 jblount   11u  IPv4 1110247      0t0  TCP localhost:34615->localhost:4369 (ESTABLISHED)
[15:55] <CardinalFang> jblount,   lsof -i4TCP@localhost | grep beam |grep LISTEN
[15:55] <jblount> CardinalFang: ""
[15:56] <CardinalFang> jblount, have you run  "make start" lately?
[15:56] <jblount> It's running currently, although I get a few failures, the web ui works.
[15:57] <jblount> CardinalFang: Here is the last bit of 'make start': https://pastebin.canonical.com/20299/
[15:59] <CardinalFang> jblount, ah, so your user couch isn't running.
[15:59] <CardinalFang> That's mildly comforting.
[16:00] <jblount> :)
[16:00] <CardinalFang> jblount,  $ cat tmp/couchdb-master.std*
[16:01] <CardinalFang> "{"init terminating in do_boot",{{badmatch,{error,{{case_clause,{error,eacces}},[{couch_config,load_ini_file,1}  ...."?
[16:01] <jblount> CardinalFang: https://pastebin.canonical.com/20302/
[16:01] <jblount> Oh, yeah, similar msg
[16:02] <statik> CardinalFang: beam.smp  12111 emurphy   15u  IPv4  65756      0t0  TCP jitter-shadow:63587 (LISTEN)
[16:02] <statik> beam.smp  12258 emurphy   10u  IPv4  65754      0t0  TCP jitter-shadow:34271 (LISTEN)
[16:02] <CardinalFang> jblount, Okay.  couchdb config files in /etc aren't readable by you.  That's step one of your breakage.   $ sudo chmod -R o+r /etc/couchdb
[16:03] <CardinalFang> Already reported, bug#403575
[16:04]  * jblount restarts u1
[16:06] <jblount> CardinalFang: My connection, she is still refused. Shall I re-run some random commands for you?
[16:06] <CardinalFang> No, I'm working on next step now.
[16:06] <CardinalFang> fg
[16:38]  * CardinalFang acquires lunch.
[17:20] <jblount> away to lunch!
[17:24]  * Chipaca points people at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29487626/syncdaemon-notify.py
[17:24] <Chipaca> dobey: can I add that to contrib/ ?
[18:06] <dobey> Chipaca: what does it do?
[18:07] <Chipaca> dobey: uses the dbus api to syncdaemon to pop up notifications when some things happen
[18:07] <Chipaca> dobey: still needs work, but better than nothing :)
[18:07] <Chipaca> dobey: try it! :)
[18:07] <dobey> Chipaca: there's a bug to add notifications for ul/dl events to the applet
[18:08] <dobey> which i guess you probably attached that too, which is why it's on lplibrarian.net
[18:08] <Chipaca> dobey: nope, because I'm not happy with how I'm handling those right now
[18:09] <Chipaca> dobey: I attached to a bug about the state, which I think is close to 'it' AFAIAC
[18:09] <Chipaca> dobey: beuno will puke when he sees it, I'm sure (but he's already got an email from me)
[18:09] <dobey> ok
[18:10] <dobey> well djseigel/arusha are supposed to poke me today about UI stuff
[18:10] <dobey> but i've not heard from them yet
[18:11] <Chipaca> dobey: meanwhile, mind if I add that to contrib/?
[18:12] <Chipaca> dobey: does contrib/ get into the package?
[18:12] <dobey> contrib/ does not get packaged, no
[18:12] <Chipaca> ah
[18:14] <Chipaca> maybe not in contrib/ then :-D
[18:16] <dobey> contrib/ is just extra stuff to build/test
[20:30] <jpds> 'lo folks, anyone know what could be causing bug #404280 ?
[20:35]  * verterok looks the logs
[20:41] <verterok> jpds: hi
[20:42] <verterok> jpds: looks like a bug in the code that upgrades the metadata
[20:42] <verterok> jpds: I can help you to workaround the problem, until a fix lands
[20:42] <jpds> verterok: Hmm, anything I can do to fix it?
[20:43] <verterok> jpds: did you updated the client?
[20:43] <jpds> verterok: I'm running on the latest karmic packages..
[20:44] <verterok> jpds: 'echo 2 > /home/<your username>/.cache/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/vm/.version' should do the trick
[20:45] <jpds> verterok: Wow, thanks. Now it's working. :)
[20:46] <verterok> jpds: great!
[20:49] <jpds> verterok: All synced, thanks for that tip.
[20:50] <verterok> jpds: (disclaimer) we shouldn't mess with the data inside that directory
[20:50] <verterok> jpds: as it's the metdata used by syncdaemon
[20:55] <verterok> jpds: could you check that all the files are still there? ;)
[20:59] <jpds> verterok: in ~/Ubuntu One/ ? Yep.
[20:59] <verterok> jpds: yes ~/Ubuntu One/My files
[21:00] <jpds> They're there.
[21:01] <verterok> jpds: and the shares?( ~/Ubuntu One/Shared With Me)
[21:01] <jpds> Yep.
[21:01] <verterok> ok, thanks!
[21:07]  * jpds waves at Chipaca :)
[21:12] <Chipaca> what *was* in .version?
[21:12] <jpds> It didn't exist...
[21:17] <verterok> jpds: could you do a pastebin of: ls /home/<your username>/.cache/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/vm/
[21:17] <verterok> please ?
[21:19] <jpds> verterok:
[21:19] <jpds> ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/231425/
[21:20] <verterok> jpds: thanks!
[21:20] <jpds> No problem.
[21:21] <verterok> jpds: ok, thanks! I was a bit afraid about not requested that paste before doing the echo 2 > thingy
[21:21] <verterok> jpds: all it's good. your metadata should be safe ;)
[21:24] <jpds> verterok: All is well in the end ;)
[21:24] <verterok> heh :)


[01:56] <psusi> why is the udisks2 bzr udd repo not up to date?
[14:49] <doko> slangasek, cjwatson, bdmurray: please subscribe foundations to python-service-identity python-pyasn1-modules python-characteristic bug reports (for lp: #1349119)
[15:16] <bdmurray> doko: done
[15:20] <alive4ever> hello
[15:21] <alive4ever> please review my merge proposal for fixing lp: #1299347. Here are links to them https://code.launchpad.net/~alivema4ever/ubuntu/utopic/weechat/lp-1299347-fix and https://code.launchpad.net/~alivema4ever/ubuntu/trusty/weechat/lp-1299347-fix
[23:22] <samgtr> hello everyone
[23:22] <samgtr> i would like to contribute to ubuntu, can I know where to get started from?
[23:25] <sladen> samgtr: is there a bug you've spotted, or something that you (personally) think could be improved
[23:25] <sladen> samgtr: it's easier to have a goal (a small managable goal)
[23:26] <samgtr> sladen: i am still not sure which area of ubuntu interests me, still trying to find that out, and I guess that you could help me out
[23:26] <samgtr> sladen: I code in python mainly, also I use, HTML, JS, CSS
[23:27] <samgtr> sladen: so where can I contribute the best with my skills?


[19:58] <do2kd> Hallo . i look for help. i try to filter noise out of Shortwave transmissions in real time. Ubuntu studio is installed. all works fine i can say. Jackrack is one of my friends but i have not found the right filters yet. Ideas? Questions, Infos you need?
[20:19] <zequence> do2kd: If you can determine the approximate frequencies by ear, the usual eq and filter tools should suffice. Not sure if there are any all-in-one plugins for that purpose
[20:21] <zequence> I would assume you won't need anything below 100-200hz(depending on voice), and nothing above 7000-10000Hz(also, depending on voice)
[20:22] <zequence> If there's a clear hum, like a note, then you will need to use a steep notch with an eq to get that note out. With shortwave radio I don't know about transients. With transients you would need to take care a few as well
[20:23] <zequence> If the note is say 100Hz, the natural transients would be 100, 200, 300, 400, and so forth.
[22:27] <do2kd> zequence: the transmission has only a bandwidth of 3khz . . so the frequencies max 3000hz. the notch filter i know. my biggest problem are the "noise" from atmospherics / interferences. could you understand it . sorry my mother language is german and english learned 30 years ago :) Thanks or your help


[09:26] <ginggs> morning! would someone please tell me why update_excuses shows freecad is missing a build on armhf, but as far as I can see it has never built there (depwait)
[09:38] <sladen> me can't!
[09:44] <cjwatson> looks like a bug related to arch: all handling maybe
[09:48] <ginggs> cjwatson: thanks, can it be pushed through?
[09:48] <cjwatson> probably but not by me :)
[10:08] <Saviq> pitti, the bug you asked me to file: bug #1581628
[16:29] <rbasak> ScottK: around? I'm looking at bug 1581839, and I'm struggling to find a reason that this doesn't also affect Debian. wheezy->jessie moved the clamdscan manpage from clamav-daemon to clamdscan, so shouldn't there be a Breaks/Replaces for that?
[16:29] <rbasak> ScottK: am I missing something?
[16:30] <ScottK> There probably should and we missed it.
[16:30] <rbasak> ScottK: if so I'm happy to file a bug. I'm just struggling to be sure.
[16:31] <ScottK> At this point I don't think it's needed.
[16:31] <ScottK> Wheezy has 0.99.
[16:31] <rbasak> OK, thanks. I'll sort it in Ubuntu.
[16:32] <ScottK> Debian is different than Ubuntu in that there's no fixed release pocket.  Once there's a point release it's all updated.
[16:32] <rbasak> Ah, that's useful to know. Thank you.
[18:06] <barry> Laney: ping
[18:21] <Laney> hi barry
[18:22] <barry> Laney: hi.  i'd like to so some moderate resyncing of libpeas with debian based on their changes to the packaging of the py2/py3 loaders: https://launchpad.net/~barry/+archive/ubuntu/libpeasresync/+packages
[18:22] <barry> Laney: what they adopted is that the py3 loader is part of libpeas by default, but you have to add an explicit depends for the py2 loader
[18:22] <barry> and they want to encourage folks to port to py2
[18:23] <Laney> yeah I remember
[18:23] <barry> Laney: so i'm not merging everything, just a few packages, and then looking at the reverse-deps to figure out which i have to modify in yakkety
[18:23] <barry> but i don't want to merge the whole stack ;)
[18:23] <barry> Laney: i can email the mailing list, but just wanted to get a sanity check from you and see if i should continue to move forward with this
[18:24] <Laney> you have to undo everything you added the py3 dep on, right?
[18:24] <barry> Laney: yep, basically just rm that dep from control{,.in}
[18:25] <barry> Laney: the ones in the PPA (along with libpeas itself) are the only ones needing a new upload i believe
[18:25] <barry> i'm doing local rebuilds of the other rdeps
[18:25] <barry> against the ppa, just to be sure, but so far so good
[18:25] <Laney> did you check they picked the same name for the py2 package?
[18:25] <Laney> I saw someone talking about it changing
[18:26] <Laney> maybe they changed it to be the same as your one
[18:26] <barry> Laney: ah, yes good point, no they changed the name, and yes, i have to upload the py2 deps with the name change
[18:26] <Laney> nod
[18:26] <Laney> wasn't that many of them IIRC
[18:26] <barry> liferea and gtranslator were it i think
[18:27] <barry> Laney: we're already sync'd on gtranslator
[18:27] <Laney> I'll check tomorrow
[18:28] <Laney> (check your PPA)
[18:28] <barry> Laney: cool, thx.  in the meantime, i'll finish up testing here and we can chat tomorrow
[18:28] <Laney> if you want to give up your merges then probably mark them on MoM
[18:29] <barry> i mostly have everything ready to go once i get the green light
[22:35] <Umeaboy> Uuuuuuuuuuuuuhm. I installed regionset and ran it both as user and as sudo and I got no error changing the region to 2, but the disc won't mount after I rebooted and reinserted the disc.
[22:35] <Umeaboy> What am I doing wrong?
[22:35] <Umeaboy> I get no error message poping up as well
[22:42] <Umeaboy> Here's the error in dmesg: http://pastebin.com/w9HGzJL8


[10:16] <kimo> Hi, is there any guide on installing (better dual booting) ubuntu on sparc??
[10:23] <fabbione> kimo: not really.. just install :)
[10:26] <kimo> u're the kernel guy, right
[10:26] <fabbione> no
[10:27] <fabbione> i am the sparc guy
[10:27] <kimo> I just heard fabbione "head of ubuntu kernel team" or somthing like that!
[10:27] <fabbione> that was a release ago
[10:27] <kimo> wow, does it change that fast!
[10:27] <fabbione> yes
[10:27] <fabbione> it was 6 months ago
[10:28] <fabbione> things change fast
[10:28] <kimo> well, it still is a pleasure talking to you ;)
[10:28] <fabbione> :)
[10:28] <kimo> so, if I want to install ubuntu on a sparc machine ... there are zero docs ?
[10:28] <kimo> I am *very* well experienced with Linux
[10:29] <kimo> but very new to sparc machines & solaris
[10:29] <fabbione> kimo: i usually suggest netboot/netinstall
[10:29] <fabbione> that means rarpd+tftpd
[10:29] <kimo> oops, that's the shit I know nothing about right?
[10:29] <fabbione> the same docs you find for debian or any other distro are valid for ubuntu
[10:29] <fabbione> there is no real difference
[10:30] <kimo> I use boot.img to 'netboot'  ?
[10:30] <fabbione> hmm yes
[10:30] <kimo> so how good/stable is ubuntu on sparc?
[10:30] <fabbione> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/sparc/
[10:31] <fabbione> these should be fairly up-to-date
[10:31] <kimo> thnx a million
[10:33] <fabbione> np
[10:53] <kimo> I will probably be installing on a (ultra10 machine, not sure of the name though). Does hardware drivers come with the system?
[10:53] <fabbione> yes there are no binary/proprietary drivers for sparc
[10:53] <fabbione> only for one scsi controller and one gfx you need the firmware
[10:54] <fabbione> but it's not U10 business :)
[10:54] <fabbione> u10 should work out of the box
[10:55] <kimo> who writes these drivers!
[10:55] <kimo> regular Linux hackers
[10:55] <kimo> or with help from Sun
 regular Linux hackers <-
[10:56] <kimo> incredible!
[10:57] <kimo> Since Linux has an army of devs, this kinda makes sense, but I don't understand how solaris x86 also manages to write drivers for 'PC' hardware!
[10:57] <kimo> I mean Solarisx86 has only been about for a few years
[10:58] <fabbione> SUN has money...
[10:58] <fabbione> anyway i am heading to sleep
[10:58] <fabbione> good night
[10:58] <kimo> thanks a lot man ...
[10:58] <kimo> I am really honored


[02:20] -queuebot:#edubuntu- Builds: Edubuntu Desktop amd64 [Mantic Daily] has been updated (20230625)


[02:27] <wendar> the 4digits game developer says he'd love to work with community designers on improving his game
[03:10] <doctormon> Anyone seen this before: http://getskeleton.com/
[03:10] <doctormon> wendar: That's great.
[07:17] <YoBoY> hi
[07:46] <dholbach> good morning
[09:05] <mainerror> Morning dholbach.
[14:39] <AlanBell> afternoon all
[14:41] <AlanBell> any more items for the design tools wishlist? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesignTeam/Wishlist
[15:24] <yaili> AlanBell: have you seen xScope for Mac?
[15:25] <yaili> AlanBell: http://iconfactory.com/software/xscope
[15:31] <mainerror> yaili: That tool might be good but the site is horrible.
[15:32] <yaili> mainerror: I don't think that's what we're discussing here
[15:34] <mainerror> I know. Just wanted to say. It took me ages to understand what the tool is about.
[15:36] <johnoxton> AlanBell I am not sure if it really falls under design but there are some UX tools we'd love
[15:37] <johnoxton> AlanBell the key one being something like http://www.optimalworkshop.com/optimalsort.htm
[15:38] <johnoxton> and http://www.optimalworkshop.com/treejack.htm
[15:38] <om26er> JohnLea, Hi! about bug 804021 was there any specific reason for the current behavior. I noted MeeGo(netbook) had a similar behavior i.e. delay to display the tooltip but then in an update they changed the behavior to real time tooltips. I personally preferred the old behavior
[15:39] <mainerror> johnoxton: Those are great!
[15:40] <om26er> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/804021
[15:40] <om26er> this channel needs a bugbot
[15:41] <JohnLea> om26er; yes, if there is no delay the tooltip flashes up all the time in a very annoying manner
[15:41] <johnoxton> mainerror: yeah, I love them. Just the pricing model I hate :)
[15:41] <AlanBell> yaili: I think there are compiz plugins for most of what xscope does
[15:41] <JohnLea> om26er; if it was as the bug is requesting, we would have another bug with even more people complaining and asking for a delay to be added ;-)
[15:42] <mhall119> cjohnston: can you get us a bug bot for this channel?
[15:42] <om26er> JohnLea, fair enough we might want to experiment with a lower tooltip reveal time though, might feel better ;-)
[15:45] <yaili> AlanBell: ok
[15:45] <om26er> nuthinking, You designed the accordion in Unity launcher, was there any specific reason for accordion to only take place on the bottom and not at the top as in  Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[15:46] <AlanBell> the optimal workshop stuff looks interesting
[15:46] <om26er> this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/772792 argues against the current behavior and as now I read on a report unpinned apps will also remember their position in the launcher wont the only argument for removing accordion on the top fail?
[15:49] <AlanBell> yaili: there is the enhanced zoom plugin, the resize info plugin
[15:51] <AlanBell> window rules doesn't do what I thought it did :) it doesn't make rulers on screen
[15:52] <AlanBell> there is also the very good colour filter plugin that allows you to test designs for colour blindness profiles
[15:52] <AlanBell> deuteranopia and protanopia filters are the two main colour blindess filter options
[15:59] <mainerror> johnoxton: I agree their pricing model sucks.
[16:00] <yaili> AlanBell: Color Oracle works on Linux too, no?
[16:01] <cjohnston> bug 804021
[16:01] <webbugs> Launchpad bug 804021 in unity (Ubuntu) "launcher tooltip delay is useless and gives the impression as if the launcher is not responding" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804021
[16:01] <mhall119> \o/
[16:01] <cjohnston> works for now
[16:02] <AlanBell> yaili: I don't know what that is. Oracle is a database to me!
[16:03] <yaili> AlanBell: :D http://colororacle.cartography.ch/
[16:03] <AlanBell> oh right, same thing as the compiz filters
[16:05] <mainerror> Does anyone see a license notice or something for Color Oracle?
[16:06] <AlanBell> mainerror: more important than the pricing model is the ability to adapt it
[16:07] <AlanBell> free, but non-Free from what I can tell
[16:09] <AlanBell> and it has a university copyright which usually means the authors will abandon it at the end of the academic year
[16:13] <AlanBell> johnoxton: I can see some of that cardsort stuff working well as desktop applications
[16:14] <johnoxton> AlanBell agreed a desktop top app would be lovely too one of the things I am interested in is being able to do it remotley.
[16:16] <AlanBell> ooh, that might tie in with doctormo's thoughts on an etherpad/svgedit mashup
[16:18] <AlanBell> I guess you sometimes want to do the remote stuff with the last remaining people not using Ubuntu yet too
[16:19] <johnoxton> :)
[16:19] <johnoxton> Something of a distraction but I'd like to design card sorting as a game… but I'll pocket that thought for another day
[16:20] <AlanBell> yes, I was thinking of using the solitaire framework or pygame cards to do that
[16:22] <johnoxton> AlanBell: Well, I'd certainly be up for that conversation if people are interested in doing it
[16:24] <AlanBell> I added a card sorting tool https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesignTeam/Wishlist
[18:19] <mfilipe> is there any approach to implement window tiling in unity? I know that it has put compiz plugin that "emulate" tiling but it isn't good if compare with a real window tiling
[18:33] <bkerensa> Does anyone by chance have copies of the Ubuntu banner layouts that is used for printing the banners given to approved LoCo's?
[18:33] <pleia2> I suggested bkerensa join here and ask
[18:58] <mainerror> bkerensa: If at all I guess over at http://spreadubuntu.org/
[18:58] <mainerror> Well maybe not there but it should be there.
[18:59] <pleia2> the one here is the one he's looking for: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ubuntu-us-ca/6087644982/
[18:59] <bkerensa> yeah its not there... I think Canonical has the design
[19:00] <pleia2> the big orange one canonical sends to approved teams
[19:04] <mainerror> Oh!
[19:05] <wendar> bkerensa: I'll ask sladen, he'll at least know or be able to find out who to ask
[19:05] <bkerensa> kk
[19:06] <wendar> bkerensa: it's Friday evening in the UK, though, so things'll be shutting down
[19:06] <wendar> bkerensa: do you need it before Monday?
[19:06] <bkerensa> no monday will work :D
[19:11] <wendar> bkerensa: cool
[19:11] <pleia2> sladen usually has me submit a bug report for such things, lemme get a link...
[19:12] <pleia2> bkerensa: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-branding/+filebug?field.title=Publish+Ubuntu+Banner+SVG
[19:12] <pleia2> that will make him happy :)
[19:19] <wendar> pleia2: good idea :)
[19:20]  * AlanBell wonders if they got the logo the right way up on the vertical banners at uds-p
[19:21] <pleia2> AlanBell: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/6326040791/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/6326784728/
[19:22] <AlanBell> actually this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/6326785476/in/photostream/
[19:22] <AlanBell> they did some with the logo rotated along with the text, which it shouldn't do
[19:22] <AlanBell> logo should always have a gap at 3 O'Clock
[19:22] <pleia2> ah, interesting
[19:31] <mainerror> AlanBell: I think it is correct the way it is. People tend to walk with their head in a comfortable position which is the normal head position. So the logo had to be recognizable from that angle.
[19:33] <mainerror> You don't turn your head 90 degrees on the X axis just to recognize the logo. :D
[19:42] <AlanBell> mainerror: indeed, just I happen to know they did make some vertical banners that were wrong
[19:43] <AlanBell> there is a page about it in the branding guide
[20:53] <mmiicc> according “More on-screen measurements” from Wishlist: there is KRuler in Ubuntu repos, also couple Opera widgets:  http://widgets.opera.com/search/?order=name&q=ruler
[21:37] <AlanBell> !info kruler
[21:38] <AlanBell> < lubotu3`> kruler (source: kdegraphics): screen ruler for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.6.5-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 103 kB, installed size 412 kB
[21:39] <AlanBell> http://kde.org/applications/graphics/kruler/
[21:41] <AlanBell> looks quite nice, but is KDE
[21:46] <mmiicc> AlanBell: Gnome Screen Ruler is not in 11.10 repos https://launchpad.net/screenruler
[21:51] <AlanBell> interesting
[21:51] <AlanBell> that would be a good thing to get in for precise
[21:58] <doctormon> AlanBell: Sounds easy


[20:22] <jwill-> plasma-desktop(2160): Communication problem with  "plasma-desktop" , it probably crashed.
[20:22] <jwill-> Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "
[20:22] <jwill-> Gee, plasma probably crashed?  Y'think?
[20:23] <Daughain> jwill-: LOL, come down to Tn, and ask any male on the street, I'll bet whatever ya want, 4 out of 5 will be willing to either fix it for you, or show you how. =)
[20:23] <fujimitsu> Guest14072: do you have more than one operating system installed?
[20:23] <shadeslayer_> jwill-: ah.. ok do this,reboot the PC,and if nothing works, mn .kde .kde_old
[20:23] <shadeslayer_> *mv
[20:23] <jwill-> Why did I install 4.4?  Whhhhhhhhy?  Ever time I install an RC, this happens, but I never learn.
[20:23] <Daughain> jwill-:  And usually screw it up in the process.
[20:23] <aelyson> ola
[20:23] <jwill-> shadeslayer_: I didn't back it up.  And I already rebooted.
[20:23] <Daskreech> Daughain: do you have a /etc/init.d/xinetd ?
[20:24] <shadeslayer_> jwill-: its just a problem of the configs...
[20:24] <Guest14072> Daskreech: fujimitsu: so I'm going to use the commands http://paste.ubuntu.com/354657/, which will get me to ubuntu where I can type sudo update-grub, which will make the grub boot menu that I can pick my multiple OSs from, which are ubuntu, kbuntu, and WinXP, right?
[20:24] <shadeslayer_> jwill-: oh no problem... just back it up now
[20:24] <Daskreech> jwill-: it's RPC it can't know
[20:24] <aelyson> existe algem do brasil ai
[20:24] <fujimitsu> Guest14072: yes, do that and see if it fixes it
[20:24] <Daughain> Daskreech:  Nope.
[20:24] <Daskreech> !br
[20:25] <Daskreech> aelyson: ^^^
[20:25] <shadeslayer_> thats it i quit :P
[20:25] <jwill-> shadeslayer_: It's backed up now
[20:25] <jwill-> Awwwwwww
[20:25] <Daskreech> yay
[20:25] <Daskreech> now he can pass exams
[20:26] <jwill-> Exams were last month :S
[20:27] <Daskreech> Or whatever :)
[20:27] <jwill-> Hmm, I've got a bunch of updates that were kept back.  Perhaps everything will work after I get those installed.
[20:29] <Daskreech> jwill-: Oh I always back up ~/.kde and do two dist-upgrades when jumping to a new KDE X.X+1
[20:29] <jwill-> I can't install the new version of klipper.    This is the source of my power.
[20:29] <jwill-> err, I mean problem
[20:30] <Daskreech> Castle Greyskull?
[20:30] <Daskreech> Oh wait :-P
[20:31] <APERSON> jwill-, so you're having that problem too?  I tried installing 4.4, but got the same thing
[20:31] <jwill-> APERSON: With klipper?
[20:32] <jwill-> I blame kubuntu packaging.
[20:32] <APERSON> Communication problem with  "plasma-desktop"
[20:33] <SamWeasley> Hello! I'm with some problem on a Intel HDA audio and skype.
[20:33] <Guest14072> Daskreech: fujimitsu: alright, I sudo update-grub in ubuntu, rebooted, and now I'm back at the normal grub prompt, still with no OS menu, so there's something wrong with that grub.cfg file then?
[20:33] <Daskreech> Guest14072: maybe. Does grub say what version it is in the menu?
[20:34] <Guest14072> Daskreech: it says it's version 1.97~beta4
[20:34] <Daskreech> Guest14072: Ok thats grub2
[20:34] <SamWeasley> Skype and other programs don't capture anything. KMixer, though, has mic and capture marked
[20:34] <Daskreech> so that works.
[20:35] <jwill-> " trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/apps/kconf_update/klipper-kconfigxt.upd', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-data 4:4.3.4-0ubuntu1~karmic1"
[20:35] <SamWeasley> also I'm with much noise if I give volume o mic boost and/or capture
[20:35] <Guest14072> Daskreech: but I've got to mess with that grub.cfg file to make it work, right?
[20:36] <Guest14072> Daskreech: making it work as in showing me the multiple OSs at start up and letting me select which one to use
[20:36] <Daskreech> Guest14072: no you are just missing the OS entries?
[20:37] <Daskreech> sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub
[20:37] <Guest14072> Daskreech: it looks like it if I'm not seeing that menu
[20:37] <Guest14072> Daskreech: I should use that command in ubuntu, not the grub-prompt, right?
[20:38] <Daskreech> Guest14072: Right
[20:38] <Daskreech> and if you are on the live cd that should be done in a chroot
[20:39] <fujimitsu> Guest14072: channel #grub might offer better help on your issue
[20:39] <jwill-> Removing klipper, then reinstall kubuntu-desktop seems to have fixed it.
[20:40] <Himmler> does anybody can help me? i just upgrade to kde 4.4 rc1 and after reboot there's no plasma desktop.
[20:40] <Daughain> Daskreech: Ok, you do realize I am guessing the whole way through trying to figure this out, right? If ya tire of messin with it,m lemme know, and I'll understand.
[20:41] <jwill-> Himmler: Hey, I just fixed the same problem
[20:41] <jwill-> Himmler: Run sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade and tell me if there are any errors near the end
[20:41] <jwill-> Himmler: Anything like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/354667/
[20:42] <jwill-> Himmler: I'll brb, restarting to see if I fixed it.
[20:42] <smellynosery> Is there a way of turning off the "Devices recently plugged in" popup
[20:42] <smellynosery> It's driving me crazy
[20:44] <Guest14072> Daskreech: so I used "sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub", should I just reboot and see if it works now?
[20:45] <Daskreech> Daughain: I know but some of this stuff should just work. tftp is being blocked by something it should be listening for 69 and it's not so need to figure that out
[20:45] <jwill-> Himmler: I'm back, did you get anything?
[20:45] <Daughain> Daskreech: http://pastebin.ca/1745969  Thats my dhcpd.conf as it is currently configured. Otherwise known as my best guess.
[20:45] <Himmler> jwill-: please wait a sec :)
[20:46] <Daskreech> smellynosery: Remover the device notifer and it magically stops notifying you :)
[20:46] <Daskreech> Guest14072: That's the idea Did it find anythign in the output?
[20:46] <Himmler> jwill-: i pastebin the output. wait m8
[20:46] <Daughain> Daskreech: I run the netstat command, and all it does is give me the next command line.
[20:47] <Daughain> Daskreech:  And ya been messin with ot for hours, as well as bein swamped by everyone else. =)
[20:47] <Guest14072> Daskreech: yeah it found my OSs and even the memtest and looked like it was just dandy, but I just rebooted and I'm back at the grub-prompt and still with no OS menu.  This wouldn't have anything to do with those 3 errors I told you about before?
[20:47] <Himmler> jwill-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/354672/
[20:48] <Daughain> Daskreech:  Wasnt a bitch or complaint, just a statement that U fully agree with. =)
[20:48] <Daughain> U==I.
[20:48] <Daskreech> Guest14072: well the last one possibly but the others should be solved I think
[20:48] <jwill-> Himmler: Did I say upgrade for the first one?  I meant update
[20:48] <Himmler> jwill-: yes :) ok ill try
[20:48] <jwill-> Himmler: But it looks like it's not a package issue like I had.
[20:48] <jwill-> Himmler: Don't bother.
[20:49] <Guest14072> Daskreech: so you think it still is having problems seeing that core.img?
[20:50] <Himmler> jwill-: i run plasma-desktop and now the plasma appears. but i will reboot one more time to make sure its permanently appear.
[20:50] <Himmler> brb
[20:51] <Daskreech> Guest14072: I'm not sure what it's seeing but if it found your os and wrote them to the menu file then you should be able to see them in the menu. What happens if you simply don't do anything? does it boot?
[20:51] <soee> guys is there any dvdplayer for kde that u can reccomand ?
[20:51] <jwill-> soee: VLC.  QT, not KDE, but best one there is.
[20:52] <soee> jwill-: ok thanx
[20:52] <jwill-> Could I fit more acronyms into that sentence?
[20:52] <Himmler> jwill-: after reboot plasma desktop is gone again
[20:53] <jwill-> Himmler: Open konsole (using alt+f2)
[20:53] <Guest14072> Daskreech: you mean restart the computer?  It goes to the grub-prompt, straight to the grub-prompt.  If I want to go to ubuntu I have to use those linux, initrd, and boot commands. There is NO OS menu to select and OS from.
[20:53] <jwill-> Himmler: and run plasma-dekstop in konsole
[20:54] <Himmler> jwill-: i try that but it's gone after reboot :)
[20:55] <jwill-> Himmler: Oh, I see.  So it works when you manually start it, but crashes at start?
[20:55] <Himmler> jwill-: correct
[20:56] <titan_ark> Hello everyone :)
[20:56] <Daskreech> Guest14072: Oh wow hmm that's bad. Does it show an error before the grub command ?
[20:56] <Daskreech> hi titan_ark
[20:57] <Guest14072> Daskreech: not at the prompt no
[20:57] <jwill-> Himmler: You could just put plasma-desktop in ~/.kde/Autostart, I guess.  Just a workaround, though.
[20:57] <jwill-> Himmler: I don't know what's causing it to crash at start.
[20:57] <Guest14072> Daskreech: are you sure when I use sudo update-grub it is updating with the /boot partition in mind, and NOT the /root partition even though there is nothing in the /root partition's boot folder?
[20:58] <Daskreech> Daughain: netstat -l -u | grep ftp
[20:58] <Daskreech> Guest14072: You have a /boot in / ?
[20:59] <Daskreech> Guest14072: when you did the chroot you mounted /dev/sdc6 to /boot ?
[20:59] <Guest14072> Daskreech: last time I checked there was but it was blank, it was only in the boot partition that the boot folder had grub and a whole bunch of other stuff in it
[21:00] <Daughain> Daskreech: Output:  udp        0      0 *:tftp                  *:*
[21:00] <Daskreech> Guest14072: right since it should mount to /boot
[21:00] <Daskreech> Daughain: Whoot :)
[21:00] <Daughain> lol.=)
[21:00] <smellynosery> Is it possible to disable usb-storage, but only for 3g modems and not actual external harddrives?
[21:01] <Guest14072> Daskreech: YES, so when I sudo update-grub ubuntu isn't going off and making it's on boot folder with grub, right?  It's using my boot partition only, right?
[21:02] <Daskreech> Daughain: Want to try teh tftp client ?
[21:02] <Daughain> Daskreech: Now if only I knew wat that meant. =)
[21:02] <Daskreech> Guest14072: Should be
[21:02] <Daughain> Daskreech: As in straight ftp? Or as in the install again?
[21:03] <Daskreech> is there a /boot/grub.d/30_os_prober file ?
[21:03] <Daskreech> Daughain: install the tftp client
[21:03] <Daughain> Reinstall?
[21:03] <Guest14072> Daskreech: so I'm just having a grub.cfg problem?  I just need to make sure it can see the grub.cfg made with sudo update-grub?
[21:03] <Daskreech> Daughain: You uninstalled it?
[21:04] <Daughain> Daskreech:  No, no route to host on ftp <IP>
[21:04] <Daskreech> Guest14072: I'm thinking that's the problem. #grub should be able to help you at this point
[21:04] <Daskreech> Daughain: tftp loclahost
[21:04] <Daskreech> localhost
[21:04] <Daughain> Daskreech:  I've been up for about 31 hours right now, and I started working on this before jwill-  went ot bed last night......Brains a little.....soft right now.
[21:05] <Daskreech> Daughain: Sleeeeeeeeep
[21:05] <Daughain> tftp is still an invalid command.
[21:05] <Daskreech> Daughain: one of the fun things with smashing yourself agaisnt some obscure linux problem is you come out with more understanding at the other side
[21:05] <jwill-> And a lot less sanity
[21:06] <Daughain> Daskreech:  WHy ya thin I am still here.=)
[21:06] <Daughain> jwill-:  That implies there was sanity to lose, which all of my freinds will disagree with.
[21:06] <Daskreech> Daughain: Sudo apt-get install tftp
[21:06] <luckystroke> jwill-: i'm now on #kde i let you know if they can solve this problem
[21:07] <Daughain> NOt time for bed, I can still tyupe one handed...
[21:07] <Daughain> And girl promised pork chops.
[21:07] <titan_ark> Hey any idea on how I can check what is my microphone device, i want to br able to use it right and get the right settings in alsa
[21:07] <titan_ark> I somehow managed to get either of them work, but its quite noisy.
[21:08] <Daskreech> crimsun: ping on microphone question
[21:08] <titan_ark> DAughain: good for you
[21:08] <crimsun> Daskreech: contentless pong
[21:08] <jwill-> Is there a simple kde app to test microphone function?
[21:11] <Daskreech> Daughain: try sudo apt-get install tftp && tftp localhost and if that doesn't work then bed
[21:11] <Daughain> Oh, forgot to check the status of the install. =)
[21:11] <Daughain> Daskreech:  tftp installed.
[21:12] <Daughain> Daskreech: Is the second package tftp-localhost?
[21:13] <qwertz> hi, is it somehow possible to make strigi index pdf or odf full text?
[21:13] <luckystroke> http://paste.ubuntu.com/354684/
[21:15] <Whiz2> hi, i have a friend who ordered kubuntu 8.10 release CD online. When she went to install it, she got the message "I/O error. error reading boot CD" the only option she has is to reboot, then she gets the same error again.
[21:17] <rstob911> how can i boot kubuntu in a video specific mode
[21:19] <Daskreech> Daughain: no
[21:19] <Daskreech> just the command tftp localhost
[21:19] <Daskreech> so you can tftp into yourself
[21:20] <Daughain> Daskreech:  Yeah, I tried that, it didnt work.
[21:20] <Daughain> Nor did anyb other logical extension.
[21:20] <jwill-> That sounds kinda odd.
[21:20] <Daskreech> Daughain: ok bed then
[21:21] <Daughain> Last time I tried that, I got connection refused.
[21:21]  * Daughain this we are talking aboput two different things here.
[21:21] <Daughain> This==thinks.
[21:21] <paulsomebody> I have problem with transparency in GTK applications in Kubuntu, it looks just like that. http://imagebin.ca/view/Z_Exgj.html A little of research gave me nothing. Any help?
[21:22] <paulsomebody> GPU is Nvidia, proprietary driver is at place, version is latest.
[21:22] <Daughain> Command line for tftp, waiting on an IP, is my guess, Daskreech
[21:22] <Daughain> Definitely waiting on input.
[21:23] <Daskreech> Daughain: oh you get a command line?
[21:23] <jwill-> paulsomebody: Firefox bug?
[21:23] <Daskreech> but with connection refused?
[21:23] <paulsomebody> jwill-: That's idea, but then it's specific for Kubuntu.
[21:23] <jwill-> paulsomebody: Cool firefox theme, btw.
[21:24] <Daughain> Before I installed ftpt, I got connection refused usinf ftp localhost, after install of tftp, I get a tftp prompt, and it waits for further input. That help, Daskreech ?
[21:24] <jwill-> paulsomebody: Yeah.  Maybe it depends on compiz or something?
[21:24] <paulsomebody> jwill-: Strata40 and 'No border' setting.
[21:25] <jwill-> paulsomebody: Too bad I'm using chrome :S
[21:25] <paulsomebody> jwill-: I have already found this bug's page in 'getsatisfacion'.
[21:25] <jwill-> paulsomebody: Nice.  Link?
[21:25] <Daskreech> Daughain: Oh ok we seem to be good then
[21:25] <paulsomebody> jwill-: http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla/topics/no_transparency_with_ubiquity
[21:25] <Daskreech> I think you may need the tftp client
[21:26] <Daughain> Daskreech: Close out tftp then?
[21:26] <Daughain> das I just installed that.
[21:26] <Daskreech> try transfer a file?
[21:26] <Daughain> Didnt ?
[21:26] <Daughain> To what IP?
[21:26] <Daskreech> your IP
[21:27] <paulsomebody> jwill-: Oops. Reported 9 months ago. What are dissapointance.
[21:27] <jwill-> paulsomebody: So it's not a theme thing?
[21:28] <jwill-> paulsomebody: I thought the transparency for ubiquity was done interally in firefox.  Don't see why KDE would screw it up.
[21:28] <paulsomebody> jwill-: I don't know really. That needs to checked out, thanks for the idea.
[21:29] <paulsomebody> jwill-: Author of the theme didn't done testing under GNU/Linux, I should have known that,
[21:29] <Daughain> WOuld help if I had any clue of the command structure.....
[21:29] <jwill-> paulsomebody: If it is a problem with the theme, you should mention it to the author somehow.
[21:29] <lordganesh> does anybody how to remove startup programs such as kmix
[21:30] <paulsomebody> lordganesh: What is the need for?
[21:30] <Daughain> OK, found man page.
[21:30] <jwill-> lordganesh: Have you saved your session before?  If so, you'll have to remove it from the system settings module for that.
[21:30] <lordganesh> paulsomebody: i want to remove kmail from startup
[21:30] <paulsomebody> jwill-: Too bad, it stays with default theme.
[21:31] <Whiz2> hi, i have a friend who ordered kubuntu 8.10 release CD online. When she went to install it, she got the message "I/O error. error reading boot CD" the only option she has is to reboot, then she gets the same error again.
[21:31] <paulsomebody> lordganesh: Check "Autoload' thing in the 'System Settings'.
[21:31] <paulsomebody> lordganesh: Also is propbable to be found in Kmail settings.
[21:31] <Izinucs> What do I need to install to get the system to recognize and possibly control my camcorder with DV output? Is there a specific library?
[21:33] <lordganesh> paulsomebody: i have checked everything .. but still kmail starts
[21:33] <Daskreech> Daughain: oh sorry get will pull a file and put will put up a file
[21:33] <paulsomebody> jwill-: Then O dpn't know.
[21:34] <Daskreech> I think the files in /var/lib/tftpdboo have to have 666 permissions
[21:34] <paulsomebody> jwill-: Sorry, don't know.
[21:34] <Daughain> Ya, done reading the man. =) Waiting for it to do something right now. I just dont know if the exact port makes a difference.
[21:34] <Daskreech> Izinucs: recognize ou should just plug it in. Control Umm Kamoso ?
[21:35] <paulsomebody> jwill: Bad, downgrading Ubquity don't solve that problem.
[21:36] <jwill> paulsomebody: Curiouser and curiouser.
[21:36] <Daskreech> Daughain: Check if the permissions on the files in /var/lib/tftpdboot are 666
[21:36] <paulsomebody> jwill: More and more hopeless? :-)
[21:36] <lordganesh> paulsomebody: is there any conf file that shows startup programs
[21:37] <Daughain> Leme make an edit, Daskreech
[21:37] <paulsomebody> lordganesh: It shouldn't use any text config files.
[21:37] <Daughain> No numerics on the file I am trying to transfer.
[21:37] <Daskreech> Daughain: what are the permissions?
[21:37] <Daskreech>  should be -rw-rw-rw
[21:38] <Izinucs> Daskreech: yes.. dmsg report that it's recognized.. never tried Kamoso.. installing kdenlives now to see what kind of shape that program is in..
[21:38] <Daughain> Daskreech: Depends on the file I am trying to transfer, or, are those the permissions needed for me to get the file?
[21:38] <paulsomebody> jwill: I think I'll report a bug.
[21:39] <jwill> paulsomebody: Firefox or Kubuntu or KDE?
[21:39] <Daskreech> Daughain: I read somewhere they are needed to get the file
[21:39] <paulsomebody> jwill: Ubiquity of course.
[21:39] <Daskreech> I have no idea why that would be true though
[21:40] <Daughain> Daskreech: Makes sense....Oh, file needs to be open and available to anyone, no matter who they are before you can copy them. Makes sdense to me, now I need to find or make one with those permissions.
[21:40] <Izinucs> Daskreech: kdenlive reports that it needs FFmpeg & ffplay, dvgrab, dvdauthor & mkisofs for a number of things.. It didn't install automatically so maybe they are not available on 64bit but I'll look.
[21:41] <Daughain> Daskreech: SImilar to the way you need to set visible/writable/available permissions for samba shares.
[21:41] <jwill> paulsomebody: That's the problem with bugs like this... I bet it'll just be marked as a KDE bug.   'Make applications that works with other applications' someone said.
[21:44] <Daughain> Daskreech: Transfer details:  getting from <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/documents/Christopher_Kauffman_Resume.doc to Christopher_Kauffman_Resume.doc [netascii]
[21:44] <Daughain> ^[[B^[[B^[[B^[[B^[[B^[[B^[[B^[[B^[[BTransfer timed out.
[21:44] <paulsomebody> jwill: And I have just found an exellent addon — Taskfox. It could replace it for a while.
[21:46] <Daughain> Daskreech: Binary also timed out....Though, I have to admit, I'm not sire of the pathname.....Whats the path for home/documents?
[21:47] <Whiz2> hi, i have a friend who ordered kubuntu 8.10 release CD online. When she went to install it, she got the message "I/O error. error reading boot CD" the only option she has is to reboot, then she gets the same error again.
[21:47] <Daskreech> Daughain: Documents
[21:48] <Daskreech> needs a capital D
[21:48] <jwill> Whiz2: Sounds like a scratched or corrupt disk.  Download 9.10, the latest version, and burn it.
[21:48] <Daughain> Daskreech: /Home/Documents/<file>?
[21:49] <Daskreech> /home/username/Documents/file
[21:49] <Whiz2> jwill: yeah I figured as much. She doesn't have access to the internet so I will let her know she needs to try ordering the newest version online. thanks.
[21:49] <jwill> Whiz2: If you paid for it, you could ask for a replacement disc
[21:49] <Daughain> WOnt let me cap my own name, but it gets picky about *its* names.   Without internet, she would probably need some repository cds as well.
[21:50] <Daughain> Daskreech: Lemme try again...
[21:51] <jwill> Whiz2: Actually, without internet, you don't get updates.  So you'd be better off with a LTS release, since they update the disc every 6 months.  Other releases don't have any bugfixesm so aren't that stable, really.
[21:52] <Whiz2> jwill: I'm not the one that ordered it. she had another friend order it for her, so I'm not in control of what she gets lol
[21:53] <jwill> Whiz2: Well, good luck.  On the other hand, I guess she doesn't have to worry about the security updates that are missing...
[21:53] <Whiz2> jwill: haha very true!
[21:53] <Daughain> Daskreech: No love on a transfer.
[21:54] <Daughain> Daskreech:  abd netstat -an | grep *.69 still gives nothing either.
[21:56] <Daskreech> Daughain: OK
[21:57] <Daughain> Daskreech: ftp myself gets 'connection refused'
[21:58] <Daskreech> tftp localhost doesn't ?
[21:58] <Daughain> ftp <IP> doesnt.
[21:58] <Daughain> tftp localhost only runs tftp.
[21:59] <Daskreech> It doens't connect ?
[21:59] <Daskreech> tftp <IP_ADDRESS>. ?
[22:00] <Daughain> No, initial tftp command simply runs tftpclient. Once into tftp, you then need to either set the IP ti connect ti with the connect command, or you can use get/put and it will default to the last IP specified by the connect command.
[22:00] <Daughain> <IP_ADDRESS> is a computer that is turned off. =) Thats the client system. My local is <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:00] <Daughain> And, I;ve tried it.
[22:01] <Daughain> With and without a port designationm.
[22:01] <Daughain> Well......Lemme try with a port again....I had the pathname wrong before.
[22:03] <Daughain> Definitely doesnt like it with a spec'd port number.
[22:03] <Daskreech> Why are you passing it a path?
[22:04] <heroid> hey guys please help me i have  Problems mounting a nokia 6233 phone with cable  My brothers phone's memory card gets mounted in gNewSense but not in ubuntu 9.04 nor in 9.10 any help, it shows up in lsusb as Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0421:0492 Nokia Mobile Phones
[22:07] <craftyquack> does anybody know how install KDE4.4 RC
[22:08] <Daughain> Daskreech: Nope, no matter what connection times out.
[22:18] <harolddong> anybody else using the RC with the virtuoso  backend have a problem with their tags not showing up?
[22:19] <Daughain> Daskreech:  I was trying different formats to se if one would work, since I really dont know how flexible this app is.
[22:22] <Daughain> OK......I'm takin a break, Daskreech , I;ll be back in a bit, if ya still around.
[22:33] <peppino> iss it possible to generate a .deb package starting from a compiling one
[22:33] <paulsomebody> I cannot configure semantic search, when I run 'System Settings > Advanced > Desktop Search' dialogue window closes immidiately.
[22:33] <paulsomebody> Any ideas?
[22:38] <paulsomebody> All but 'dev' packages matching search 'strigi' are installed.
[22:43] <paulsomebody> Anyone alive here?
[22:43] <maco> nobody here but us chickens
[22:45] <paulsomebody> Chickens?
[22:45] <Bonster> yummy
[22:45] <crimsun> yuck.
[22:45]  * maco agrees with crimsun
[22:45] <paulsomebody> Corporative humour I don't understand?
[22:45] <Ev0luti0n_> hello folks
[22:45] <maco> i think its a very old joke
[22:46] <maco> i dont know its origins
[22:46] <maco> crimsun: you're old. where's that phrase come from?
[22:46]  * maco ducks
[22:46] <paulsomebody> Although I didn't get it, maybe you would help me?
[22:46] <maco> ive never actually used that ... lemme try it
[22:47] <crimsun> maco: I think you're forgetting that in my ancestors' culture, old is not a sign of being decrepit but rather of being venerated.
[22:47]  * paulsomebody lets maco try it.
[22:47] <maco> crimsun: hmm fair point
[22:47] <maco> crimsun: so old man...?
[22:47] <crimsun> maco: how is that different?
[22:48] <maco> paulsomebody: i should hit the "enable nepomuk semantic desktop" checkbox?
[22:48] <maco> crimsun: well do you know where it comes from?
[22:48] <paulsomebody> maco: Yes. But I can't launch this dialogue, it crashes.
[22:48] <crimsun> maco: why are you asking me when you can just as easily google it?
[22:48] <maco> um nothing happens when i click that checkbox
[22:49] <paulsomebody> maco: Check both?
[22:49] <maco> (its apparently song lyrics)
[22:49] <maco> strigi service failed to initialize.... umm... im not sure i even have strigi installed
[22:51] <paulsomebody> Install if you want to try?
[22:51] <Riddell> paulsomebody: you need virtuoso installed
[22:52] <Riddell> paulsomebody: which is in my PPA in launchpad.net/~jr or in the beta PPA along with KDE SC 4.4 release candidate  launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa
[22:52] <Daughain> oK, thats better.,.
[22:53] <paulsomebody> Riddell: Is KDE SC 4.4 okay enough to be used everyday?
[22:53] <paulsomebody> Riddell: And would I have any lib version conflicts if I install that?
[22:54] <Riddell> paulsomebody: it's an RC, fine for geeks, maybe not for normal sorts
[22:54] <Riddell> there shouldn't be any version conflicts if you install KDE SC 4.4 RC
[22:55] <paulsomebody> Riddell: Geeks? I am quite unsure if I am the one.
[22:55] <Daughain> Well, now *thats* interestingf.
[22:56] <Riddell> paulsomebody: you're on IRC, this could well be a clue :)
[22:56]  * paulsomebody gone installing.
[22:57] <maco> haha
[22:57] <maco> Riddell: you know, i didnt get around to it, but i was planning on teaching mum to use irc during the holidays so she could join me in #ubuntu-women and #linuxchix
[22:58] <crimsun> you could skype/empathy with her
[22:58] <crimsun> at least I *think* skype has screen-sharing
[22:59] <paulsomebody> crimsun: I am quite sure Windows version have. But I don't know about GNU/Linux one.
[23:00] <maco> she just has pidgin
[23:00] <crimsun> julio__: did you configure the multimedia priorities correctly (PA topmost)?
[23:00] <maco> it is configured with me onher buddy list, but i forget her screenname now
[23:00] <maco> (well, and i have quassel client on there, and i was going to teach her using xchat-gnome)
[23:01] <julio__> wait a second
[23:01] <julio__> i set it so many times
[23:03] <crimsun> julio__: please don't send me private messages.
[23:03] <julio__> ow sorry!!
[23:03] <crimsun> julio__: my client will block them, and I will not receive them.
[23:03] <julio__> i'm don't know how it works
[23:03] <julio__> ok!!
[23:04] <crimsun> julio__: your top-most needs to be PulseAudio, not HDA Intel (whatever)
[23:04] <julio__> ok!!
[23:04] <julio__> i'm setting
[23:04] <paulsomebody> Riddell: Well, I have thought for a while… I have 35 Firefox extensions installed, maybe I could put RC in a good use too.
[23:04] <julio__> ok! is in the TOP
[23:05] <crimsun> julio__: now, do you actually have pulseaudio installed, and is it running?
[23:06] <julio__> is installed, how can i know if it's running?
[23:06] <julio__> ps command?
[23:07] <julio__> it's running, i think
[23:08] <crimsun> e.g., pgrep pulse
[23:08] <julio__> out=2203
[23:08] <julio__> it's running
[23:09] <julio__> 2213
[23:09] <Bonster> anyone no how to get thumbnail previews of videos in dolphin?
[23:11] <Daughain> system settings, as I recall.
[23:12] <crimsun> julio__: and pactl stat?
[23:12] <julio__> I'm a IRC beginner too, sorry if i doing something wrong
[23:12] <julio__> pactl stat?
[23:12] <flootenkerp> Hi, I want to change my ubuntu splash screen to this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Azenis+Usplash?content=111188 can anybody help me?
[23:17] <julio__> crimsun: do you want a "pactl stat" output?
[23:19] <jwill> !usplash
[23:19] <jwill> flootenkerp: ^^
[23:19] <flootenkerp> Alright, thanks.
[23:19] <julio__> crimsun: Currently in use: 1 blocks containing 64.0 KiB bytes total.
[23:20] <julio__> crimsun: Server Version: 0.9.19
[23:20] <julio__> crimsun: Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo
[23:21] <julio__> crimsun: Default Source: alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo
[23:21] <titan_ark> hey, talking about skype and audio, etc, I am facing trouble getting my microphone settings right, too much noise in what I speak.
[23:21] <crimsun> julio__: and what is the volume set to?  Use amixer -c0, and use pastebin please
[23:27] <julio__> ok
[23:34] <julio__> crimsun: how pastebin works?
[23:34] <julio__> i never use that
[23:35] <Kage> julio__: google "pastebin"
[23:35] <anakinz> anyone can help me get my grub working again?? I have installd win7 on my computer after 9.10...
[23:37] <julio__> http://pastebin.com/d398c2cb1
[23:37] <julio__> crimsun: is it
[23:39] <anakinz> I am running the live cd right now but can´t restore the grub for some reason..
[23:41] <julio__> ???
[23:42] <petrsss> How to change user in LINUX?    I can not write in /var/www2 directory!!! That I created now!
[23:43] <petrsss> this
[23:43] <petrsss> petr@ubuntu:/var/www2$ ls -la
[23:43] <petrsss> итого 8
[23:43] <petrsss> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2010-01-11 02:21 .
[23:43] <petrsss> drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4096 2010-01-11 02:21 ..
[23:43] <FloodBotK1> petrsss: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:43] <petrsss> petr@ubuntu:/var/www2$ > 1
[23:43] <petrsss> bash: 1: Permission denied
[23:43] <petrsss> petr@ubuntu:/var/www2$
[23:43] <FloodBotK1> petrsss: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:43] <petrsss> people
[23:44] <paulsomebody> petrsss: Don't flood, if anyone knows they will help.
[23:45] <petrsss> petr@ubuntu:/var/www2$ sudo > 1.txt
[23:45] <petrsss> bash: 1.txt: Permission denied
[23:45] <paulsomebody> petrsss: Run as root?
[23:46] <paulsomebody> petrsss: 'sudo'?
[23:46] <petrsss> as petr
[23:46] <petrsss> I login like petr
[23:46] <petrsss> petr@ubuntu:/var/www2$ whoami
[23:46] <petrsss> petr
[23:47] <petrsss> magical things
[23:47] <petrsss> I can not write in MY directory
[23:47] <petrsss> I create directory and I can not write in one
[23:48] <paulsomebody> petrsss: Are you owner? What permissions do it have?
[23:48] <petrsss> petr@ubuntu:/var/www2$ ls -la
[23:48] <julio__> crimsun: do you have the solution?
[23:48] <petrsss> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 2010-01-11 02:21 www2
[23:49] <paulsomebody> petrsss: Owner is root, you need to become an owner.
[23:49] <paulsomebody> petrsss: In case to write to this directory.
[23:50] <petrsss> I created this directory "sudo mkdir www2"
[23:50] <petrsss> I am owner!
[23:50] <paulsomebody> petrsss: According to what you output was owner is root, not your user.
[23:50] <petrsss> I can not create when I was as petr --- and I create as sudo
[23:51] <petrsss> OK   I know password of root!
[23:51] <petrsss> what do I showld to do
[23:51] <petrsss> u
[23:51] <paulsomebody> petrsss: Are you in KDE now?
[23:52] <petrsss> may be
[23:52] <petrsss> kubuntu use KDE?
[23:52] <paulsomebody> petrsss: May be?
[23:52] <paulsomebody> petrsss: Yes.
[23:52] <petrsss> so yes
[23:52] <paulsomebody> petrsss: Press 'Alt + F2', type there 'konsole'.
[23:52] <titan_ark> wont using su in terminal prompt you for root password in terminal?
[23:52] <petrsss> I did
[23:53] <petrsss> ok
[23:53] <paulsomebody> titan_ark: It would.
[23:53] <petrsss> paulsomebody OK
[23:53] <petrsss> I am ready
[23:53] <paulsomebody> petrsss: Type there 'su root' and then enter your root password.
[23:53] <maco> WAIT
[23:53] <paulsomebody> petrsss: When you would be promted to.
[23:53] <maco> "su root -"
[23:53] <julio__> crimsun: i put on http://pastebin.com/d398c2cb1
[23:54] <paulsomebody> maco: What is that dash are up to?
[23:54] <petrsss> It does not work!!!
[23:54] <maco> paulsomebody: uses root's environment instead of your own user's
[23:54] <maco> ubuntu doesnt have a root password by default though
[23:54] <petrsss> !!
[23:54] <maco> petrsss: did you set a root password, or are you referring to your sudo password?
[23:54] <petrsss> maco  !
[23:55] <paulsomebody> petrsss: He is absolutely right, type 'su root -'.
[23:55] <petrsss> I have "petr" user   and I have password
[23:55] <maco> ok then you want "sudo -i"
[23:55] <maco> paulsomebody: hi i'm a she :)
[23:55] <petrsss> when I write sudo *****   I write password of petr   in all is fine
[23:55] <paulsomebody> maco: Okay.
[23:55] <titan_ark> hmmm i faced this issue too, had to then set a root passwd and then access it
[23:56] <paulsomebody> maco: You know that IRC thing, you could never be sure.
[23:56] <petrsss> petr@ubuntu:/var/www2$ sudo -i
[23:56] <petrsss> [sudo] password for petr:
[23:56] <maco> yeah
[23:56] <petrsss> root@ubuntu:~#
[23:56] <paulsomebody> petrsss: Okay, now type 'dolphin'.
[23:56] <paulsomebody> petrsss: And hit enter key.
[23:57] <petrsss> what id -i ???
[23:57] <maco> "sudo -i" enters a root shell with root's environment
[23:57] <maco> "sudo -s" enters a root shell without changing to root's environment
[23:57] <petrsss> ok
[23:57] <paulsomebody> petrsss: In the Dolphin select your directory, right click on it and select your user as owner.
[23:57] <petrsss> root@ubuntu:/var/www2# > 1.txt
[23:58] <petrsss> root@ubuntu:/var/www2# ls
[23:58] <petrsss> 1.txt
[23:58] <petrsss> OK! ))
[23:58] <FloodBotK1> petrsss: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <paulsomebody> petrsss: Now log out and login as user, root is potentially dangerous thing.


[09:49] <Saviq> hi, is it possible to set a default stacking branch for branches under a directory?
[09:49] <Saviq> i.e. we have lp:unity/phablet and pushing without explicit --stacked-on ... tries to stack on top of lp:unity
[09:49] <Saviq> but the two don't have any common history
[09:49] <Saviq> so we're pushing the whole thing every time
[09:50] <Saviq> any pointers on how to improve that?
[09:52] <mgz> actually create seperate projects fro seperate projects?
[09:53] <mgz> launchpad stacking is special cased for how launchpad wants you to lay things out
[09:53] <mgz> it expects code under one project to share history
[19:02] <kate`> hiya. i'm trying to convert something from svn to bzr, and confusing myself an awful lot in the process
[19:03] <mgz> hey
[19:03] <mgz> you might get a good response if you post the details of the conversion on the bazaar mailing list
[19:04] <kate`> way back when, i had three seperate svn repositories. at some point i combined all these into one (by dumping them and 'svnadmin load'ing them into different subdirectories) - and then i continued development from that point onwards, in one single repository
[19:04] <mgz> the people who've dived in those waters should see it there
[19:04] <kate`> well, maybe :)
[19:04]  * fullermd read that as "died in those waters"...
[19:04] <kate`> i'm wondering how's the best way to represent this in bzr.. clearly i could just convert the repository as-is, but i want those histories to appear in paralle, as they're unrelated until that point where they combine
[19:05] <kate`> i.e. i don't want a linear history with the work on those three things interspersed
[19:05] <mgz> that sound doable, but potentially not simply
[19:05] <kate`> what options can i consider? i could use svn's dump filter things to split those apart again
[19:07] <kate`> i thought either i can leave this as one giant repository and try to have bzr svn-import understand that merging, or: i could convert them seperate, merge in bzr, and then somehow svn-import the rest of the work after the merge
[19:07] <fullermd> That last step would be the really tricksy part.
[19:12] <kate`> yeah
[19:12] <kate`> can svn-import import after existing commits?
[19:16] <kate`> or: are there any other ways to go about this? i'm not really sure how this history *should* look
[19:16] <kate`> i assume these three origional svn repos should become branches in bzr
[20:32]  * jelmer waves
[20:33] <jelmer> kate`: svn-import can import after existing commits, but it won't recognize merges that were not made with bzr
[20:37] <kate`> ok. so does my plan to seperate back out my svn repository into three before-the-merge and one after-the-merge sound sane, with doing that merge by hand in bzr?
[20:38] <kate`> i.e. to svn-import them to three seperate bzr repositories, rather than branches within one repository or something
[21:06] <jelmer> kate`: I don't think that will work, if the three different branches don't have shared history
[21:06] <jelmer> (shared history where svn/bzr is concerned, that is)


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