[02:40] <Jordan_U> moes: Yes, but grub2 will automatically add entries for all your other OSs, Lenny won't.
[02:40] <moes> hook,,acerimer  Thanks for the help
[02:40] <sebsebseb> GeekSquid: probably getting her xorg rest, should be a kind of last resort, in case something goes wrong with that
[02:40] <taoist> is there support for the 5 gen ipod nano using ubuntu?
[02:41] <sebsebseb> GeekSquid: I assume you know that it doesn't take much for xorg to start being silly
[02:41] <poenuosecr> ok I have a question about a really rare package. I cant seem to find it in ubuntu 10.04. its called "clamuko" and is an on-access scanner for clamav. does anyone know how I could install it?
[02:41] <poenuosecr> !clamuko
[02:41] <GeekSquid> sebsebseb: I sneeze and Xorg acts up
[02:41] <Jordan_U> moes: The option is somewhat hidden in a button labeled only "advanced"
[02:41] <sebsebseb> GeekSquid: heh in a way
[02:41] <sebsebseb> melanie: ok so yeah the log in
[02:42] <sebsebseb> melanie: when the computer boots up though, do you see a boot up  splash screen, by the way?
[02:42] <poenuosecr> ubottu doesnt know anything about clamuko
[02:42] <melanie> no
[02:42] <moes> Jordan_U, Is grub 2 still a problem
[02:42] <sebsebseb> melanie: no  Ubuntu is loading up image?
[02:42] <melanie> boot up like?
[02:42] <Jordan_U> moes: A problem in what way?
[02:43] <onetinsoldier> poenuosecr: if you can get the source you can always try to compile it and install it
[02:43] <sebsebseb> melanie: yes  the dots
[02:43] <sebsebseb> melanie: the loading up dots and Ubuntu logo, you see this?
[02:43] <melanie> no just login screen1
[02:43] <joscht> hello everyone i need help i am getting a 404 error not found and cant update anything
[02:43] <moes> Jordan_U, I have seen a lot of problem being asked on the channel about grub 2
[02:43] <sebsebseb> melanie: so you do get to see a log in screen?
[02:43] <Keaton> Hello, #ubuntu.
[02:44] <poenuosecr> onetinsoldier: where could I find the source?
[02:44] <melanie> yes but my screen turn black if i open it
[02:44] <melanie> at the start
[02:44] <Barnabas> poenuosecr, if it is in the repo
[02:44] <sebsebseb> melanie: what do yo umean open?
[02:44] <melanie> computer
[02:44] <Barnabas> apt-get source <package>
[02:44] <zetheroo> sharing files and folders just does not work in Ubuntu anymore - it's an absolute joke!
[02:44] <sebsebseb> melanie:  if the screen is showing,  the lap top is not closed
[02:44] <sebsebseb> melanie: it's a lap top yes?
[02:44] <melanie> scuse me ...the screen!!!
[02:44] <Keaton> ALSA isn't finding my speakers since I upgraded to 10.04, could someone help me troubleshoot the problem?
[02:45] <Flynsarmy> How do you switch to the old style updater? the new one is retarded. Turns out it's been up for days, just minimized and on a different virtual desktop so i never even knew there were updates available
[02:45] <sensae> I switched metacity themes and now my min/max/close buttons are on the right. How do I move them back over to the left?
[02:45] <Jordan_U> moes: I think that's mostly because people aren't familiar with it.
[02:45] <melanie> not a laptop1
[02:45] <joscht> can someone help for some reason it is trying to update something not in /etc/apt/sources.list and it makes my update not work
[02:45] <Guest93007> does bash recognize an alias or string as being a user's home directory?
[02:45] <sebsebseb> melanie: ok
[02:45] <ubunt_user> can i save my session in ssh?
[02:45] <moes> Jordan_U, Okay thanks will give it a try
[02:45] <ubunt_user> my current dir?
[02:45] <Jordan_U> moes: You're welcome.
[02:45] <sebsebseb> melanie: normal computer desktop monitor screen?  right.   if you leave it on,  showing stuff,  that's when you see the black, before the log in screen loads up?
[02:45] <h00k> !controls | sensae
[02:45] <onetinsoldier> poenuosecr: i don't know
[02:46] <sebsebseb> GeekSquid:  melanie  might have a Plymouth issue, trying to find out
[02:46] <sebsebseb> GeekSquid: it might not be a xorg and log in screen issue,  or maybe there are two issues
[02:46] <melanie> that turn black at the login only!!
[02:46] <bastid_raZor> ubunt_user: in a sense yes.. look into 'screen'  .. man screen
[02:46] <GeekSquid> sebsebseb: looking at her pastebin, seems compiz is also having trouble
[02:47] <dipu> Hi .. I am running ubuntu 10.04 .. youtube audio does not work on firefox..3.6.3 .. any ideas ....thanx in advance
[02:47] <sebsebseb> GeekSquid: oh I didn't go on the pastebin
[02:47] <sebsebseb> melanie: ok
[02:47] <sebsebseb> melanie: your in Ubuntu right now I assume?
[02:47] <melanie> yes
[02:47] <sebsebseb> melanie: right go to
[02:47] <sebsebseb> melanie: system > administration > hardware drivers
[02:47] <Keaton> dipu: I'm having the same problem, no sound since I upgraded. :(
[02:47] <sebsebseb> melanie: then tell me if there is a graphics card driver available for you to install or not, and what is avaialble if so
[02:47] <anon^_^> Anyone know how to change device assignment?
[02:48] <joscht> can someone help for some reason it is trying to update something not in /etc/apt/sources.list and it makes my update not work
[02:48] <dipu> Keaton: not sure if the problem is with ffx or flash
[02:48] <Dayofswords> is the ubuntufourms freaking out for you guys?
[02:49] <anon^_^> I removed a device, restarted, and Ubuntu OS device was properly assigned /dev/sda
[02:49] <bastid_raZor> joscht: possibly something in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  ?
[02:49] <anon^_^> but when i replace the device, Ubuntu OS device is assigned /dev/sdb
[02:49] <Keaton> Could someone help me with my audio problem?
[02:49] <poenuosecr> could  anyone tell me if package avfs (FUSE-base VFS (Virtual FileSystem)) can cause any security problems?
[02:49] <roberto__> Dayofswords: nop, all calm and docile for me
[02:49] <melanie> wait...that can help you?:http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-95173
[02:50] <yrlnry> I just upgraded to 10.4.  I used to be able to drag windows between workspaces.  If I dragged a window off the edge of the screen, the workspace switched and I could drop the window in the new workspace.  Now I can't do that; it doesn't switch.  How do I fix that?
[02:50] <Tired_2> Its been a while since I used any linux with wifi... what are the chances it will find my wifi card with minimal effort on first install?  I dont want to have to run a cable to play with drivers.  It is a netgear wg311v2
[02:50] <roberto__> yrlnry: I want that too
[02:50] <Jordan_U> anon^_^: That's why for config files like fstab UUIDs are recommended instead of device names.
[02:50] <Keaton> Tired_2: It's a helluva lot easier than it used to be.
[02:50] <ubunt_user> why do i have no shares tab in samba SWAT? do i have to set it?
[02:50] <Tired_2> (yea, i just heard my own voice tell me to google it)
[02:50] <Dayofswords> well, the ubuntuforums are refresh looping for me atm, no toher site is doing that
[02:50] <Dayofswords> no other*
[02:51] <Tired_2> oh, i could use that fancy windows ubuntu installer
[02:51] <anon^_^> Jordan_U how do you go about fixing an issue like that?
[02:51] <Keaton> Tired_2, The proprietary driver installer makes getting most wifi device to work a breeze, if you don't mind using a binary blob.
[02:51] <sebsebseb> melanie: I don't know what that is a pastebin of maybe GeekSquid knows
[02:51] <todkon> hello, I have two problems since I've installed Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Remix on my Asus Eee 1000... First, the wifi works for 3 minutes after login, then asks for my WPA2 password again, failing to connect. Second issue is with the touchpad gestures, 2 clicks does right click, 3 does middle mouse, its backwards and unnatural. I cannot find a solution to resolve either problem. Please help :).
[02:51] <Jordan_U> anon^_^: Use UUIDs instead of device names in configuration files.
[02:51] <Tired_2> i dont mind
[02:51] <roberto__> Dayofswords: try turning off cookies to that site temporarily and see if it chills out
[02:51] <Tired_2> just feeling linux'y tonight
[02:52] <Tired_2> its been a while since I computed on a desktop with linux
[02:52] <sebsebseb> melanie: Can you do as I asked please? so system > administration  > hardware drivers
[02:52] <melanie> no driver!
[02:52] <sebsebseb> melanie: ok can you run this command in the termianl  lspci  and pastebin the output
[02:52] <wildbat_laptop> Tired_2, yu can try the live CD ~ try if it can use your wifi you have nthing you need to config ^^~
[02:52] <Tired_2> eh, screw it
[02:53] <Tired_2> thats a lot of work
[02:53] <melanie> :http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-95173
[02:53] <sebsebseb> melanie: also that is a clean install of 10.04 yes?
[02:53] <poenuosecr> could anyone please tell me how to turn clamd on-access scanning on so it scans everything I download?
[02:53] <skochty> hello
[02:53] <melanie> yes
[02:53] <sebsebseb> melanie: you didn't upgrade it from a previous version yes?
[02:53] <melanie> upgrad yes
[02:53] <luis_> hi ppl
[02:54] <luis_> hi need help in a grub2 update problem
[02:54] <MrKeuner> hi, my lenovo x200 laptop hibernates instead of suspending although I have set it to suspend in power manager, how can I enable logging of power manager? When I choose suspend from the menu it suspends and wakes up fine, it is only when it is idle 10 minutes that it goes to hibernate instead of suspending
[02:54] <luis_> no windows 7 boot
[02:54] <luis_> after update
[02:54] <wildbat_laptop> luis no option or it can't boot ?~ details?
[02:55] <sebsebseb> melanie: lspci in  the terminal and pastebin the out put and give me the link
[02:55] <sebsebseb> melanie: or uhmm
[02:55] <sebsebseb> melanie: Do you have Intel graphics card?
[02:55] <melanie> yes
[02:55] <luis_> option yes, but when i select it, it restarst grub
[02:55] <bastid_raZor> poenuosecr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV   look at `run as a daemon`
[02:55] <Radio-b> hi, I rearranged partitions and grub2 got clobbered
[02:56] <sebsebseb> melanie: Intel graphics ok, that explains why no driver showed in  hardware drivers
[02:56] <Radio-b> it outputs 'unknown filesystem' and dumps down to grub rescue
[02:56] <roberto__> todkon: problems with the x-input config swaps the buttons .. see if you can iplement this fix from Favux (with different hardware but the same issue): http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9241261&postcount=952
[02:56] <wildbat_laptop> todkon try install wicd
[02:56] <Jordan_U> luis_: Can you pastebin the output of "debconf-show grub-pc"?
[02:56] <sebsebseb> also maybe GeekSquid  since Intel graphics her compiz won't work properly or something, but I don't know
[02:56] <Guest66757> Hey guys I think I messed up my networking settings, network manager and ifconfig don't recognize my wifi card after editing nm-system-settings.conf I changed it back but it still doesn't wormk any ideas? I have rebooted
[02:56] <Radio-b> I get to `insmod /boot/grub/linux.mod' and the same error occurs
[02:57] <sebsebseb> melanie: how long does it take Ubuntu to boot up?
[02:57] <Radio-b> root is set to a device that definitely contains the path /boot/grub/liux.mod
[02:57] <melanie> maybe 10 sec or 20
[02:57] <wildbat_laptop> luis, boot to ubuntu and open terminal try : sudo update-grub
[02:57] <todkon> wildbat_laptop: I tried wicd and it didn't replace network manager, made everything worse this time :(
[02:57] <roberto__> todkon: or search taht site for swap buttons and touchpad :S
[02:57] <sebsebseb> melanie: ok
[02:57] <todkon> thanks roberto__
[02:57] <yrlnry> roberto__:  I figured out how to fix it.
[02:57] <wildbat_laptop> todkon, uninstall nm ?
[02:57] <om3n5150> I have a simple question if anyone wants to private chat with me, to avoid the constant scrolling. Or I could just say in here I suppose.
[02:58] <sebsebseb> melanie: well your lucky really, I mean you can still log in, there was someone earlier who coudn't even log in since  some issue with the log in screen and xorg
[02:58] <roberto__> yrlnry: dimelo!
[02:58] <todkon> good point :P wildbat_laptop
[02:58] <todkon> hahaha
[02:58] <Jordan_U> luis_: I'm betting you installed grub to your windows partition.
[02:58] <roberto__> yrlnry: err, umm, tell me it!
[02:58] <yrlnry> roberto__:  First you sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager , to acquire the ccsm program.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. Network manager is refuseing to connect.. but 'dhclient' gets me an ip from my router/lan...
[02:58] <sebsebseb> melanie: also if you had a Nivida or ATI card and installed propritary driver for this,   the boot up would probably mess up.
[02:58] <sebsebseb> melanie: you have a choice
[02:58] <melanie> i have no trouble whir Koala!
[02:58] <luis_> jordan_u no such file
[02:58] <yrlnry> roberto__:  Then you go into the config for the "edge wall" plugin and select the rightmost tab, "edge flipping", and check the "edge flip move" box.
[02:58] <skochty> i need a linux system with low memory usage, care to recommend some for my old laptop(256MB RAM)?
[02:59] <yrlnry> roberto__:  Insane, isn't it?
[02:59] <dbum> OK.... my first real problem in Lucid...I have an ATI X800 and I have only been using one monitor. (vga port)  I just got a dvi 2 vga connector and hooked it up and both monitors work but I can not enable desktop effects when I have the 2nd monitor enabled.  If anyone could help!!! thanks in advance.
[02:59] <Dayofswords> ubuntu forums are still constantly refreshing (it says bilberry or lingonberry right before it refreshes)
[02:59] <Dayofswords> it also says one user online, me
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> skochty:  try 'tiny core linux'
[02:59] <roberto__> yrlnry: where is edge wall?
[02:59] <sebsebseb> melanie: you could put kaola back on,  another distro even if you wanted.  You could just live with seeing black on boot up.  Or you could try restarting xorg to see if that will solve the problem, but if xorg goes wrong on you, which it probably won't if just re starting, but if it does it will be ah probably
[02:59] <Jordan_U> luis_: "debconf-show grub-pc" is a command
[02:59] <luis_> wildbat_laptop already done it
[02:59] <Guest66757> Hey guys I think I messed up my networking settings, network manager and ifconfig don't recognize my wifi card after editing nm-system-settings.conf I changed it back but it still doesn't wormk any ideas? I have rebooted
[02:59] <luis_> ok
[02:59] <iflema> skochty puppy linux
[02:59] <luis_> sorry
[03:00] <sebsebseb> melanie: you could also maybe try another log in screen, to see if that loads up properly
[03:00] <yrlnry> roberto__: sorry, "desktop wall".
[03:00] <sebsebseb> melanie: or not
[03:00] <luis_> Jordan_U : Usage:
[03:00] <melanie> so i live whit that s**t
[03:00] <luis_>     debconf-show packagename [...] [--db=dbname]
[03:00] <luis_>     debconf-show --listowners [--db=dbname]
[03:00] <luis_>     debconf-show --listdbs
[03:00] <FloodBot1> luis_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:00] <om3n5150> What's a good program to use that supports ffmpeg, like MPC in Windows?
[03:00] <sebsebseb> melanie: uhmm
[03:00] <Guest66757> !language melanie
[03:00] <roberto__> yrlnry: I'm sorry wait ..  Imean, which section is it in?
[03:00] <Jordan_U> Radio-b: Does "ls" list the partition you are looking for? Remember that in grub2 partitions start at 1, not 0
[03:00] <luis_> sorry again
[03:00] <sebsebseb> melanie: how can I explain this uhmm
[03:01] <{C9}Blizakster> Ubuntu 10.04 = Headache for me lmao
[03:01] <sebsebseb> melanie: a lot of graphics cards don't work properly in Ubuntu at the moment, because of lack of manufacture support
[03:01] <Radio-b> Jordan_U: hda0,5 is listed
[03:01] <poenuosecr> could anyone please tell me how to make sure
[03:01] <sebsebseb> melanie: also there is nothing wrong with putting 9.10 back on if you choose to do so,  you have untill the end of April next year when it comes to support as in security updates
[03:01] <poenuosecr> could anyone please tell me how to make sure "on-access" scanning is on in ubuntu?
[03:01] <Glacer> there is a bug in ubuntu, my USB speakers and all will work, USB drive, then sometimes I have to reboot to get it to even read camera. it does fine after rebooting
[03:01] <Radio-b> if I root hda0,5 and ls /, it lists the contents
[03:01] <luis_> jordan_U debconf: DbDriver "passwords" warning: could not open /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat: Permissão negada
[03:01] <luis_>   grub-pc/kopt_extracted: false
[03:01] <luis_>   grub2/kfreebsd_cmdline:
[03:01] <luis_> * grub-pc/install_devices: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Generic-_Multi-Card_20071114173400000-0:0-part1
[03:01] <luis_>   grub-pc/postrm_purge_boot_grub: false
[03:01] <luis_>   grub-pc/disk_description:
[03:01] <FloodBot1> luis_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:01] <luis_> * grub2/linux_cmdline:
[03:01] <luis_>   grub-pc/install_devices_empty: false
[03:02] <{C9}Blizakster> Question: How to get Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n working on 10.04 ?
[03:02] <Guest66757> !language melanie
[03:02] <sebsebseb> melanie: newer is not always better, it depends on the user, but also their hardware
[03:02] <om3n5150> I had that problem, with the BCM wireless adapter.
[03:02] <Guest66757> Hey guys I think I messed up my networking settings, network manager and ifconfig don't recognize my wifi card after editing nm-system-settings.conf I changed it back but it still doesn't wormk any ideas? I have rebooted
[03:02] <roberto__> luis_: more pastebin.ubuntu.com, less paste
[03:02] <sebsebseb> melanie: 9.10 is actsauly better than 10.04 in certain ways
[03:02] <{C9}Blizakster> 9.10 doesn't like my wlan either
[03:02] <GeekSquid> roberto__: that's paste.ubuntu.com
[03:02] <sebsebseb> melanie: if you want to attempt restartging xorg though
[03:02] <om3n5150> System > Administration > Hardware Drivers fixed it for me
[03:03] <{C9}Blizakster> 9.04 is the one i've been using until I get help :)
[03:03] <sebsebseb> !xorg | melanie
[03:03] <yrlnry> roberto__:  "Desktop".   Or just type "wall" in the "filter" box.
[03:03] <{C9}Blizakster> I know how to do that much i'm not a complete noob lol
[03:03] <dipu> Hi all .. youtube audio doesn't work with ubuntu 10.04 .. any ideas ??
[03:03] <melanie> sebsebseb :ok thank for your help
[03:03] <Jordan_U> luis_: Yes, you have grub set to install to your windows partition. Run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and when prompted for install devices choose just /dev/sda, *not* any partitions like /dev/sda1.
[03:03] <sebsebseb> melanie: uhmm
[03:03] <joscht> can someone help for some reason it is trying to update something not in /etc/apt/sources.list and it makes my update not work
[03:03] <Guest66757> Hey guys I think I messed up my networking settings, network manager and ifconfig don't recognize my wifi card after editing nm-system-settings.conf I changed it back but it still doesn't wormk any ideas? I have rebooted I also can't access the internet so I'm pretty mucbh at a stand still
[03:03] <{C9}Blizakster> dipu: does any audio work at all ?
[03:03] <albertolempira> hey guys i was wondering if there's a way evolution mail can run on background so i don't have to open it every time i log in to get my emails. Anyone have an idea? thanks in advance
[03:03] <melanie> ubottu: that not good informations!!!
[03:03] <sebsebseb> melanie: what are you doing to?
[03:03] <Glacer> Always act like a noob and you get more help
[03:03] <Glacer> ;x
[03:03] <dbum> I have an ATI X800 and I have only been using one monitor. (vga port)  I just got a dvi 2 vga connector and hooked it up and both monitors work but I can not enable desktop effects when I have the 2nd monitor enabled.  If anyone could help!!! thanks in advance.
[03:03] <sebsebseb> melanie: What are you going to do?
[03:03] <omar> how can add an "open in terminal" context item in nautilus
[03:04] <dipu> yes .. mp3 etc works
[03:04] <roberto__> yrlnry: ok I set that :)
[03:04] <dipu> flash audio has issues
[03:04] <Jordan_U> Radio-b: Does "ls (hd0,5)/" list the files you expect?
[03:04] <melanie> i stay whie 10.04 and wait for an update...
[03:04] <joscht> can someone help for some reason it is trying to update something not in /etc/apt/sources.list and it makes my update not work i get a 404 error not found
[03:04] <luis_> thanks Jordan_U i'll try it...sorry about the floods everybody
[03:04] <sebsebseb> melanie: uhmm thing is when it comes to that is uhmm
[03:04] <Radio-b> Jordan_U: yes, boot, grub, and the works are all there
[03:04] <sebsebseb> melanie: a update is not likely to come that will fix your issue in 10.04, because they only tend to do security updates
[03:04] <dipu> Blizakster : only flash has issues
[03:05] <todkon> roberto__: I'm a bit confused, but where would the xinput file be locatted? I can't seem to find the right file in /etc/X11
[03:05] <scheng> somebody used ubuntu 10.0.4?
[03:05] <CloudMonkee> how do i recognize myself
[03:05] <Jordan_U> Radio-b: try running "set prefix=(hd0,5)/boot/grub/" then "insmod normal" then "normal"
[03:05] <CloudMonkee> as in auth*
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> joscht:  check /etc/apt/sources.d/  thats where 'extra' sources should be configfured at. It could also be the servers are down.
[03:05] <sebsebseb> melanie: Is there a feature in 10.04 that you want, that 9.10 does not have?
[03:05] <melanie> sebsebseb : no
[03:05] <acerimmer> Radio-b : sudo update-grub
[03:05] <joscht> Dr_Willis: thanks i will check right now
[03:06] <CloudMonkee> melanie: trust me, download 10.04. it is a goldmine.
[03:06] <sebsebseb> melanie: well then you may as well put 9.10 back on for now at least.  next version of Ubuntu will be 10.10 at the end of October by the way
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> omar:  theres some package yopu install that can add that feature. 'ubuntu-tweak' can also install it for you
[03:06] <Radio-b> update-grub isn't available in the rescue
[03:06] <sebsebseb> CloudMonkee: she has 10.04 already and an issue with it
[03:06] <Radio-b> giving those commands a spin
[03:06] <todkon> ah nevermind, I assume its just xinitrc
[03:06] <melanie> viva october!
[03:06] <roberto__> todkon: honestly, I'm not sure. I just know that thread everyone is talking about that same problem. there's some conf file named earlier in the discussion but you'd have to search to find it
[03:06] <joscht> Dr_Willis: i tried sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.d/ and nothing came up....
[03:07] <sebsebseb> melanie: ignore people who say that the new version is the best, because it's new, :)
[03:07] <todkon> roberto__: ah alright, I'll look around, thanks for the pointers
[03:07] <CloudMonkee> sebsebseb: aww that's too bad. Ubuntu 10.04 is really a treat. they've finally put some extra features in gui for mainstream
[03:07] <Radio-b> Jordan_U: normal worked
[03:07] <GeekSquid> joscht: try cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d   then ls
[03:07] <omar> Dr_Willis, thanks found it in ubuntu tweak :)
[03:07] <sebsebseb> CloudMonkee: the two new themes suck really
[03:07] <Dayofswords> so no one else is having "ubuntuforums.org" issues? cuz it says i'm alone, and its constantly reloading
[03:07] <flavio> Hello, could someone explain what I have to do in order to enable compositing for intel 945? It was running fine after install.
[03:08] <Radio-b> cool, it's booting
[03:08] <roberto__> yrlnry: was that it ?
[03:08] <sebsebseb> CloudMonkee: also loads of rubbish Gnome edits on the top right panel,  ok social features will be useful for winning noobs over, but still it's a rubbish Gnome edit what they done to the top right when it comes to that, really
[03:08] <Radio-b> yeah, prefix was (hd0,6)
[03:08] <scrp3l> Hi, i'm having file system checks every time i boot after upgrading to lucid. before rebooting i can see the error: umount2 device or resource busy on some of my fs. Does anyone know where to look to fix thix ?
[03:08] <melanie> sebsebseb ; i have to go very thank for your help!!!!
[03:08] <Radio-b> which makes sense
[03:08] <sebsebseb> CloudMonkee: of course their Gnome editing will probably improve in 10.10, but still
[03:08] <Radio-b> the manual wiki is missing a step
[03:08] <melanie> sebsebseb :bye and long live to you!
[03:08] <Guest66757> Hey guys I think I messed up my networking settings, network manager and ifconfig don't recognize my wifi card after editing nm-system-settings.conf I changed it back but it still doesn't wormk any ideas? I have rebooted I also can't access the internet so I'm pretty mucbh at a stand still
[03:08] <joscht> GeekSquid: is it getdeb.list?
[03:09] <GeekSquid> joscht: very well could be
[03:09] <yrlnry> roberto__:  Yes.  As soon as I checked "edge flip move" box, it worked again.
[03:09] <Guest66757> Please guys any ideas I'm desperate I've had this problem for days
[03:09] <joscht> GeekSquid: the problem is though that it is openprinting xerox printers and i dont see them here
[03:10] <GeekSquid> joscht: are you trying to install the xerox or uninstall?
[03:10] <joscht> nothing i was just trying to update and it gives me the 404 error so i cant update
[03:11] <tm512> quick question, does ubuntu install grub to mbr?
[03:11] <Guest66757> Hey guys I think I messed up my networking settings, network manager and ifconfig don't recognize my wifi card after editing nm-system-settings.conf I changed it back but it still doesn't wormk any ideas? I have rebooted I also can't access the internet so I'm pretty mucbh at a stand still
[03:11] <sebsebseb> tm512: by default yes
[03:11] <luis_> jordan_U still the same problem
[03:11] <GeekSquid> joscht: gksudo gedit getdeb.list  and put a # at the beginning of each line and save then apt-get update
[03:12] <Radio-b> the set prefix line is in the docs
[03:12] <tm512> okay, i'm probably going to get shot for mentioning this, but i assume it wouldn't be much trouble to install freebsd over ubuntu, then?
[03:12] <Radio-b> but it isn't numbered in consistency with the other steps
[03:12] <Jordan_U> luis_: That was just to configure grub so that it doesn't overwrite the windows bootloader again. To restore the windows bootloader follow this guide: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[03:12] <dipu> Hi all .. youtube audio doesn't work with ubuntu 10.04 .. any ideas ??
[03:12] <luis_> ok...
[03:13] <Tired_2> unmute it
[03:13] <Tired_2> j/k
[03:13] <joscht> GeekSquid: there is only one line which is http:.... getdeb.apps
[03:13] <h00k> tm512: ...over Ubuntu?
[03:13] <Jordan_U> luis_: Sorry, I meant to give you the second part of the instructions before you left
[03:13] <luis_> Jordan_U can you give me the last comand again?
[03:13] <luis_> ok
[03:13] <roberto__> yrlnry: darn .. it just sits there for me
[03:13] <GeekSquid> joscht: that is the line
[03:13] <tm512> i want to remove ubuntu, and install freebsd
[03:13] <roberto__> thanks though
[03:13] <bezao> hi, i'm running ubuntu server, i have bash scripts on differents accounts, so can i execute it without loggin on each account?
[03:13] <Jordan_U> luis_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[03:14] <luis_> Jordan_U just to check if i made is correctly..
[03:14] <luis_> ok...
[03:14] <luis_> thanks
[03:14] <h00k> tm512: You can remove it and install with whatever OS you want, as long as you format that partition
[03:14] <Radio-b> oh cool, last update fixed my cursor madness
[03:14] <tm512> but i'm concerned about grub
[03:14] <Jordan_U> luis_: You're welcome.
[03:14] <joscht> GeekSquid: still the same error 404 not found with the openprinting database
[03:15] <tm512> because i still need windows 7 working on here
[03:15] <h00k> tm512: about losing it?
[03:15] <h00k> tm512: you'd have to check with FreeBSD's documentation about bootloaders
[03:15] <tm512> that, or i wont be able to boot my new os
[03:15] <GeekSquid> joscht: would you pastebin the output of apt-get update
[03:16] <bezao> hi, i'm running ubuntu server, i have bash scripts on differents accounts, so can i execute it without loggin on each account?
[03:16] <zetheroo> obviously the Ubuntu team has turned a blind eye to simple and functional file and printer sharing ..... pity ... may have to run a Windowz machine to do what Linux cannot do without an excruciating amount of headache!
[03:16] <tm512> can grub edit menu.lst
[03:16] <tm512> bezao: SUDO!! :D
[03:16] <joscht> GeekSquid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/429258/ there it is
[03:17] <Tired_2> anything wrong with using wubi for an install?
[03:17] <Tired_2> seems pretty slick to me
[03:17] <Tired_2> since i already ahve windows
[03:17] <Tired_2> and want to dual boot
[03:17] <acerimmer> Tired_2: not so much wrong as less stable than a dedicated dual boot.
[03:18] <Tired_2> oh, i get it
[03:18] <Tired_2> (reading faq)
[03:18] <acerimmer> Tired_2: If I'm Not mistaken, there are more wubi breaks/issues than there are dual boot issues.
[03:18] <Tired_2> yea, I think I'll go old school
[03:18] <GeekSquid> joscht: ok, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and look for http://www.openprinting.org/ and # that line
[03:18] <Tired_2> learn more that way
[03:19] <Tired_2> still a cool thing though
[03:19] <acerimmer> Tired_2: use a good guide, TAKE YOUR TIME, and back everything critical up first.
[03:19] <Flynsarmy> How do you switch to the old style updater? the new one is retarded. Turns out it's been up for days, just minimized and on a different virtual desktop so i never even knew there were updates available
[03:20] <bezao> tm512 but i mean, i can use like this? su - acc1;./script1;su - acc2;./script2 ?
[03:20] <tm512> I suppose, try it
[03:20] <joscht> GeekSquid: i searched through it and i couldn't find it
[03:20] <bezao> tm512 but it ask's password :/
[03:20] <bezao> i have them, but for make a script this doesnt work
[03:20] <joscht> GeekSquid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/429260/  here it is
[03:20] <bezao> i want to make a script to run scripts
[03:21] <GeekSquid> Flynsarmy: goto System>administrator>software sources ... in the updates tab- half way down, uncheck check for updates
[03:21] <Agrajag-> i have a 2nd monitor (dvi) that since updating to 10.04, seems to change brightness depending on what's displayed on the screen. even when scrolling through a webpage in google chrome the brightness changes. if i use "display" to display a large image, it also goes very bright. it's extremely annoying, how do i stop this?
[03:21] <tm512> dunno then
[03:21] <GeekSquid> joscht: cd into /etc/apt and do ls and tell me what is there
[03:21] <MrKeuner> how can I set what power manager does as sleep action? I think it is set to hibernate instead of suspend
[03:21] <bezao> :(
[03:22] <amikrop> Is VirtualBox OSE handling USB devices?
[03:22] <joscht> there is apt.conf.d sources.list.d trustdb.gpg trusted.gpg~ uh oh have to go
[03:22] <amikrop> I mean, does it recognize USB?
[03:22] <un214> we have teleport
[03:22] <acerimmer> amikrop: pretty much no
[03:22] <GeekSquid> joscht: see ya
[03:22] <Radio-b> okay, I've gotten grub to boot from rescue
[03:22] <Radio-b> how do I commit the updated root/prefix values
[03:23] <amikrop> acerimmer: So, I have to install the proprietary version?
[03:23] <acerimmer_> amikrop: so i understand but I've never vboxed usb's so not sure
[03:23] <amikrop> OK
[03:23] <amikrop> thank you
[03:23] <NOMAR> i need some help
[03:24] <acerimmer_> !ask|nomar
[03:24] <sassinoogi> Anyone know how to load an ipod from Ubuntu?  I know you need to change the format of the songs to a .wma file, but when I go to load the song onto it, they never show...any ideas?
[03:24] <NOMAR> ok
[03:24] <chak82> NOMAR: please be more specific with your question!!
[03:24] <ahorner> Hey guys, I was wondering if there is some sort of application or something that would enable my Ubuntu NAS to be able to stream my videos over a webpage in flash or something.
[03:24] <chak82> NOMAR: what you need?
[03:25] <xer0> How do I enable ssh access to a machine? I can ping it, but ssh is denied
[03:25] <aeron> sassinoogi, the ipod cant play wma, try converting to mp3 first
[03:25] <NOMAR> i have the ubuntu 10.04 in a CD and i want to know how to install
[03:25] <MrPancake> xer0: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:25] <GeekSquid> xer0: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:25] <sassinoogi> OH--thanks!  mp3, huh?
[03:25] <acerimmer_> Nomar: have you tried the live demo yet??
[03:25] <NOMAR> nop
[03:25] <aeron> yes, i believe the ipod supports mp3 and aac
[03:25] <xer0> MrPancake: GeekSquid:thx
[03:26] <Flynsarmy> GeekSquid, I still want to to look for updates - i just want the notification back in the panel instead of it retardedly opening minimized on a virtual desktop i'm not evne using (must have opened as i was flicking through). found the solution in gconf-editor
[03:26] <acerimmer_> nomar: strongly suggest you live cd for awhile to get  a feel.
[03:26] <acerimmer_> !manual|nomar
[03:26] <Guest66757> Hey guys I think I messed up my networking settings, network manager and ifconfig don't recognize my wifi card after editing nm-system-settings.conf I changed it back but it still doesn't wormk any ideas? I have rebooted I also can't access the internet so I'm pretty mucbh at a stand still
[03:26] <Guest66757> Please guys any ideas I'm desperate I've had this problem for days
[03:26] <acerimmer_> NOMAR: read the manual, take your time, have fun
[03:26] <MrPancake> Guest66757: What does dmesg say about it?
[03:26] <NOMAR> my platform is ubuntu 8.4
[03:27] <vaikz> hi, how to delete the history of gwibber?
[03:27] <acerimmer_> nomar: that's a LTS.  Run update manager and you should get an option to upgrade the distro to 10.04
[03:27] <luis_> jordan_U sorry for being so persistent... I instaled grub to a sd card, and followed the rules for the testdisk, and windows still does not starts
[03:27] <luis_> i did update-grub on final
[03:27] <SuperLag_> Will it still be read properly if I burn an ISO file to a DVD?
[03:28] <Jordan_U> luis_: What does happen when you select windows?
[03:28] <chak82> Guest66757: hi, the SO recognize the wifi card ?
[03:28] <Jordan_U> SuperLag_: Yes
[03:28] <luis_> it goes back to grub menu
[03:28] <Guest66757> What
[03:28] <SuperLag_> Jordan_U: do I need to use growisofs to burn? or will cdrecord be enough?
[03:28] <Guest66757> Chak82 what I'm not that advanced
[03:28] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: can you paste your nm settings file please
[03:28] <NOMAR> my platform is ubuntu 8.4 and i want to upgrade it to 10.04 from a CD
[03:29] <Jordan_U> SuperLag_: cdrecord is enough
[03:29] <acerimmer_> nomar: do you have 8.4 running now?
[03:29] <NOMAR> yes
[03:29] <GeekSquid> Flynsarmy: libnotify totally changed, so you will either have to update manually or live with the update manager opening on its own and sometimes on a different workspace
[03:29] <acerimmer_> nomar: insert the cd
[03:29] <SuperLag_> sweet
[03:29] <chak82> Guest66757: please, look in synaptic for a packaged named sysinfo
[03:29] <NOMAR> i did it
[03:29] <NOMAR> then?
[03:29] <acerimmer_> nomar: run update mgr
[03:29] <roberto__> hey pretty much nothing from ccsm seems to work -- how can I verify I'm running compiz at this moment?
[03:29] <vaikz> hi, how to delete the history of gwibber?
[03:30] <acerimmer_> update mgr should see the cd and offer to update
[03:30] <chak82> Guest66757: this package gives u the model and brand of the device
[03:30] <Flynsarmy> GeekSquid, did anyone do any sort of usability testing on that?
[03:30] <luis_> Jordan_U the sd card is my memory boost for windows (don't know if it is relevant)
[03:30] <sassinoogi> Aeron: When I used the "sound converter", it says that source files cannot be converted--is there another way to switch the files from .ogg to mp3?
[03:30] <chak82> Guest66757: after that, you must look in ubuntu site if the device are supported for de SO
[03:30] <GeekSquid> Flynsarmy: probably not, however sabdfl has his hand in everything
[03:30] <chak82> if does not
[03:30] <aeron> sassinoogi, are the files currently in .wma? you might need to download a codec before you can convert them
[03:30] <acerimmer_> ?nomar?
[03:30] <sassinoogi> no
[03:31] <Guest66757> Greezmunkey I don't have internet on the computer :/ the only option I have is managed=true and above that no-auto-default=mac id
[03:31] <dipu> Hi all .. youtube audio doesn't work with ubuntu 10.04 .. any ideas ??
[03:31] <NOMAR> the update mgr is the gestor de paquetes in spanish?
[03:31] <greezmunkey> chak82: his card worked until he broke suport for it.
[03:31] <sassinoogi> I just downloaded sound converter to try to remedy this
[03:31] <Jordan_U> luis_: Are you sure you followed the instructions completely? If they don't work you will need a windows install CD (or otherwise be able to boot into windows)
[03:31] <Flynsarmy> GeekSquid, thanks for the help+info
[03:31] <acerimmer_> nomar: do you need it in spanish??
[03:31] <NOMAR> well i have running in spanish
[03:31] <chak82> greezmunkey: this device are working now?
[03:31] <Guest66757> Chak82 wusb54g v4 I checked supports wep only so I was trying to use ndiswrapper
[03:31] <shazbotmcnasty> dipu, make sure you have the latest flash
[03:31] <aeron> sassinoogi, what format is your music in right now?
[03:31] <Delif> Can anyone give me advice on why wubi first boot tells me not root path specified but never gives me an option to specify it during install? I tried uninstalling it and re-downloading/installing and have the same issue
[03:32] <sassinoogi> off
[03:32] <sassinoogi> oops!!  .ogg
[03:32] <acerimmer_> nomar: update mgr is also in spanish, si?
[03:32] <shazbotmcnasty> and then 'aumix' in terminal, and turn everything up
[03:32] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: what are you using for Inet access now?
[03:32] <NOMAR> ok let me try
[03:32] <luis_> I think I made it all...can you please give me again the site, and the comand line for reconfigure ? (sorry, now i'll save it) Jordan_U
[03:32] <Guest66757> My phone greezmunkey
[03:33] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: yikes!
[03:33] <dipu> shazbotmcnasty : I have adobe flash plugin version 10
[03:33] <chak82> Guest66757: i dont understand, the card are working or not?
[03:33] <roberto__> acerimmer_: it's gestor de actualizaciones in spanish
[03:33] <aeron> sassinoogi, try running "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" without the quotes and try sound converter again
[03:33] <dipu> shazbotmcnasty : thats what is shown in synaptec
[03:33] <sassinoogi> aeron: so, what "patch" am I downloading this time [to convert to ogg]
[03:33] <sassinoogi> ok
[03:33] <acerimmer_> roberto__: no habla espanol.  sorry
[03:33] <shazbotmcnasty> dipu, you can try to download the latest from the adobe site
[03:33] <shazbotmcnasty> and not the one is repos
[03:33] <Guest66757> Chak82 it does not appear so, but the lights on it are alight
[03:34] <roberto__> acerimmer_: not my problem man :) thought that you asked
[03:34] <chak82> Guest66757: ok, THE DEVICE IS NOT WORKING YET !!
[03:34] <acerimmer_> roberto: so what di d you say?  I'm working with nomar
[03:34] <luis_> Jordan_U : since my sd card is not a boot device, shouldn't the testdisk change it to a normal sd device?
[03:34] <chak82> do you upload the windows driver for your card to ndiswrapper?
[03:34] <Guest66757> Chak82 okay using caps does not help convey your message though
[03:35] <Jordan_U> luis_: I don't understand the question.
[03:35] <roberto__> acerimmer_: the update manager -- you asked if it was in spanish too. Yes , it is. It's called "Gestor de Actualizaciones" in spanish
[03:35] <sassinoogi> aeron: now what...should this do it?
[03:35] <Guest66757> Is it possible to restore my system to a previous state? I was thinking of the journaling system
[03:35] <Rubin> why cant i find a package that contains the perl lib for Getopt::Simple?
[03:35] <Guest66757> Like a day before
[03:35] <acerimmer_> roberto__: cool.  i learned something new. :)
[03:35] <luis_> can i pvp message you?is easyer to follow the instructions
[03:35] <luis_> ?
[03:35] <luis_> jordan_U
[03:35] <Glacer> there is a bug in ubuntu, my USB speakers and all will work, USB drive, then sometimes I have to reboot to get it to even read camera. it does fine after rebooting
[03:35] <dipu> shazbotmcnasty : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/EbgXjcPF
[03:36] <Jordan_U> luis_: Yes
[03:36] <Glacer> on 10.04 I upgraded frp, 9.04
[03:36] <aeron> sassinoogi, try converting the files to mp3 now. they should play on the ipod now
[03:36] <Glacer> from*
[03:36] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: what did you do to the file that broke support for your wifi adapter?
[03:36] <dipu> shazbotmcnasty : do I have to remove these .so files before install ??
[03:36] <acerimmer> X-(
[03:36] <chak82> Guest66757: some time ago, i was configured a linksys card with this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[03:36] <NOMAR> running the upgrade mgr i dont have option
[03:36] <luis_> Jordan_U please do it for me, because i double click on your nick, but it does nothing
[03:36] <shazbotmcnasty> dipu, no
[03:36] <Guest66757> Changed managed=false to managed=true in /etx/network-manager the conf file
[03:37] <evon> anyone no where I can pdisk for ubuntu?
[03:37] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: change it back, mine says false as well
[03:37] <Guest66757> Did that nothing happened
[03:37] <chak82> Guest66757: please, see this ...
[03:37] <iflema> NOMAR acerimmer_ the alternate cd is the recommended one for offline upgrades not the desktop version.........
[03:37] <acerimmer_> nomar: ok.  boot from the cd and install from there.  Suggest you use the 8.04 partition and install over it.  Back up everything first.
[03:37] <Guest66757> Chak I'm looking
[03:37] <sassinoogi> aeron: THANKS!!:-D
[03:38] <acerimmer_> nomar: STOP.  Do you have alternate 10.04 cd??  )
[03:38] <acerimmer_> iflema: you're right.  thx.
[03:38] <NOMAR> yes
[03:38] <aeron> sassinoogi: np :)
[03:38] <acerimmer_> NOMAR: ALTERNATE yes?
[03:39] <NOMAR> well i download it from the ubuntu home page
[03:39] <Guest66757> Now I see the guide chak82 but how would I do this without my system detecting my card....
[03:39] <NOMAR> it is a imagen
[03:39] <Guest66757> That's like hunting blindly
[03:39] <NOMAR> is an imagen software
[03:39] <justin22885> hey everyone.. im creating a 32 bit chroot environment for my ubuntu installation
[03:39] <tamale1> All, I'm noticing some very strange issues with two of my ubuntu computers after upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04.
[03:39] <tamale1> On my laptop, after several hours of normal behavior and performance, the machine becomes utterly unresponsive. The moue cursor still tracks, but I can't really click on anything or type anything, as it takes almost 30 seconds for my commands to have any effect.
[03:39] <tamale1> On my server, I have a constant load average of around 0.3 under the exact same workload now, while before the upgrade the load hovered between 0.01 and 0.05.
[03:39] <FloodBot1> tamale1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:39] <chak82> Guest66757: what did show sysinfo to you about your card?
[03:40] <tamale1> I didn't realize using shift-enter would do that. My apoligies
[03:40] <vicente> how delete xubuntu splash
[03:40] <acerimmer_> nomar: does it say "desktop" or "server"??
[03:40] <justin22885> i keep getting annoying instability issues with 64 bit firefox plugins
[03:41] <dipu> shazbotmcnasty : about:plugins in firefox shows
[03:41] <shazbotmcnasty> dipu, do you have any other browser installed?
[03:41] <chak82> Guest66757: actually, i was suggest you install the sysinfo package to let us know if ubuntu are seeing your card
[03:41] <justin22885> installing a tiny base system of lucid into /var/i386 which will be the chroot of my 32 bit system
[03:41] <shazbotmcnasty> I remember I had that problem with firefox, but not in chrome
[03:41] <dipu> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Vns3Tz7L
[03:41] <Guest66757> Chak82 in sysinfo under hardware and network nothing appears
[03:41] <shazbotmcnasty> then I restarted firefox after using chrome, and it fixed itself.
[03:41] <dipu> shazbotmcnasty : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Vns3Tz7L
[03:42] <shazbotmcnasty> dipu, I would try a different browser
[03:42] <justin22885> once this is finished i will apt-get install firefox :-D after i chroot to the directory
[03:42] <aeron> how can i get my hard drives to show up in nautilus again? the drives in question are properly installed and are detected by grub (they're bootable). I can't mount them manually (mount: /dev/sda already mounted or /media/win7 busy)
[03:42] <dipu> shazbotmcnasty : yes .. i have epiphany
[03:42] <chak82> Guest66757: did you test the device in another machine?
[03:42] <justin22885> you use epiphany over firefox dipu?
[03:42] <acerimmer_> nomar: u there?
[03:42] <Guest66757> No. I do not have another. Should I try it with vista?
[03:43] <NOMAR> is desktop
[03:43] <dipu> shazbotmcnasty : i use firefox
[03:43] <dipu> shazbotmcnasty : other browser is epiphany
[03:43] <acerimmer_> iflema: how to update 8.04 to 10.04 w/desktop CD??
[03:43] <acerimmer_> nomar: wait 1
[03:43] <justin22885> ill probably just delete 64-bit firefox then.. just run 32 bit solely
[03:43] <justin22885> btw.. i was forced to switch to firefox
[03:43] <chak82> Guest66757: the effect is the same, if vista can access to the device, ubuntu can get too
[03:43] <justin22885> i mean.. forced to switch to ubuntu
[03:43] <shazbotmcnasty> dipu, try epiphany to see if it works on that
[03:44] <shazbotmcnasty> so you can tell if it's a firefox problem..
[03:44] <iflema> acerimmer_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[03:44] <shazbotmcnasty> I would suggest chrome... I've never ever had a problem, and the plugins are growing quickly
[03:44] <acerimmer_> iflema: tyvm
[03:44] <fuzzybunny69y> hey everyone I have kind of a strange problem. I have a program that starts up with Ubuntu Lucid called Tilda. It is a dropdown terminal and I have it set to be partially transparent. When I first start my computer the transparency is active but it shows my desktop background. So for example if I have Xchat open and summon Tilda it will show my desktop background instead of Xchat. But then if I exit Tilda and reopen it then summon it again it work
[03:44] <fuzzybunny69y> s properly and shows the currently running application behind it instead of always showing the desktop.
[03:44] <studentz> Alternative install ecrypted volumes any advice or experience ? Thaks
[03:44] <shazbotmcnasty> but I don't want to get into browser politics
[03:44] <justin22885> epiphany gave me the same flash glitches as firefox did.. im trying a 32 bit chroot environment to see if it works.. whos having firefox problems?
[03:44] <chak82> Guest66757: but, i want to probe that the device are working, if another pc with any SO must can see the card
[03:45] <acerimmer_> NOMAR: iflema had it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[03:45] <zetheroo> does Ubuntu have a firewall enabled by default?
[03:45] <bezao> my ubuntu server, wasnt asking to select a item on the grub, now it is asking how can i make it boot always on the first?
[03:45] <aeron> fuzzybunny69y, are you using compiz or another compositing window manager?
[03:45] <justin22885> oh.. y'all want to know my #1 pet peeve i have with ubuntu?...
[03:45] <fuzzybunny69y> aeron, I think I am using Compiz
[03:45] <justin22885> i HATE having to use my password for everything.. cant even pick my nose without entering the root password.. its just so annoying
[03:46] <fuzzybunny69y> I have the desktop effects set to normal so that means compiz right
[03:46] <justin22885> its like the UAA on windows vista
[03:46] <aeron> i believe so yes
[03:46] <Guest66757> Chak82 it sees it
[03:46] <acerimmer> justin22885: gksudo
[03:46] <justin22885> someone please tell me how i can disable the root password on ubuntu.. i never want to have to type that crap again
[03:46] <evon> I am trying to recover a mac partition. I've used testdisk to find the lost partition but now I just need to write the partition but I don't know how. Testdisk tells me to use pdisk to accomplish this but I don't know how to install or even use pdisk.  Can anyone help me?
[03:46] <onetinsoldier> zetheroo: no. it's default is gufw, but it's not enabled by default
[03:46] <mtx_init> Earlier today I turned on my pc and booted into ubuntu, only to be greeted by gnome asking me for my password.  I have it set to auto login.  I type in my password and it loop's me back.  I then check .xsession-errors thinking its X messing up, it alerts me that ~/.profile cannon be read.  I check permissions and ever replace the file.  I get nothing.  I uninstall the nvidia drivers, and I get nothing as well.  What could this have been?
[03:46] <NOMAR> ok thanks
[03:47] <chak82> Guest66757: thats strange, UBUNTU MUST SEE IT
[03:47] <histo> anyone have an idea on how I can get audio over hdmi working in lucid with the new retarded sound preferences?
[03:47] <zetheroo>  onetinsoldier: ok thanks
[03:47] <onetinsoldier> zetheroo: you're welcome
[03:47] <Guest66757> Chak82 so it must be hiding it from me?.....
[03:47] <justin22885> how do i turn off the root password on ubuntu.. for that matter.. i dont ever want to type sudo again
[03:47] <onezero> justin22885: In what particular circumstances are you prompted for your password? Usually it's just when altering important files, for everyday use one shouldn't be asked for it very much. Have you just installed Ubuntu?
[03:47] <Cammy_> Does anyone know why Lucid won't keep my theme after I reboot?  I have to go into Appearance every time and pick it.
[03:47] <chak82> Guest66757: i dont think so
[03:47] <shazbotmcnasty> !sudo | justin22885
[03:47] <aeron> fuzzybunny69y, you'll have to modify the startup entry. first make a file somewhere called start_tilda.sh (or w/e you wanna call it)
[03:48] <shazbotmcnasty> OH NO THATS NOT THE OONE
[03:48] <shazbotmcnasty> :<
[03:48] <Guest66757> Chak82 what do?
[03:48] <shazbotmcnasty> !root >> shazbotmcnasty
[03:48] <chak82> Guest66757: maybe this hardware doesnt supported by
[03:48] <onetinsoldier> justin22885: i can tell you how for command line, but don't use the root command line to run graphical apps, only command line commands... sudo -i
[03:48] <Radio-b> why would update-grub detected duplicates of my boot entries?
[03:48] <defrysk> justin22885, do some reading on aliasing and editing the sudoers file
[03:48] <shazbotmcnasty> !root > shazbotmcnasty
[03:48] <acerimmer> !gksudo|justin22885
[03:48] <chak82> Guest66757: can you give me again the model and brand of the card?
[03:48] <Guest66757> Chak82 39 minutes ago I was connected to a network
[03:48] <Guest66757> Linksys wusb54g ver 4
[03:48] <enter_name> in ubuntu netbook edition the ram seems to fill up and not empty when all the applications are closed
[03:48] <shazbotmcnasty> acerimmer, that's not what he's asking
[03:49] <ridz16> hey yall
[03:49] <Guest66757> !hi ridz16
[03:49] <aeron> fuzzybunny69y, next open the file in gedit and inside it put "#!/bin/bash " on the first line and "sleep 10 && tilda" on the second
[03:49] <aeron> without quotes
[03:49] <justin22885> i just want to be root, give my account root privelages, and disable all passwords, i never want to enter another password on my own computer again
[03:50] <aeron> fuzzybunny69y, next edit the startup applications entry to point to this script
[03:50] <aeron> instead of pointing directly at tilda
[03:50] <acerimmer> justin22885: of course, running as superuser all the time leaves you wide open for exploits...
[03:50] <onetinsoldier> justin22885: --> sudo -i
[03:50] <evon> I am trying to recover a mac partition. I've used testdisk to find the lost partition but now I just need to write the partition but I don't know how. Testdisk tells me to use pdisk to accomplish this but I don't know how to install or even use pdisk.  Can anyone help me?
[03:50] <defrysk> enter_name, do some reading on ram in linux, unused ram iswasted ram
[03:50] <shazbotmcnasty> justin22885, Try System -> Administration -> Login Window -> Security -> Allow local system administrator login.
[03:50] <Loshki> justin22885's trolling, right?
[03:50] <ridz16> can someone please help me about removing older LINUX version of ubuntu? I see two on grub screen http://bit.ly/94KwEQ
[03:51] <MrPancake> ridz16: Uninstall the old linux-image package.
[03:51] <onetinsoldier> Loshki: no, i don't think so
[03:51] <MrPancake> MrNaz: Computer Janitor can help you through it.
[03:51] <MrPancake> Er, that was to ridz16
[03:51] <GeekSquid> justin22885: that would be like hacking your machine for a hacker, that is why we by default have restrictive permissions, to keep hackers out...
[03:51] <Guest66757> Chak82 what do?
[03:51] <enter_name> defrysk: when i boot up afresh its running at about 150mb, after using it a while it fills up to 600mb, theres only 1gb in this notebook
[03:51] <Loshki> justin22885: one of the reasons linux has virtually no viruses is because people don't run everything as root...
[03:51] <justin22885> no, im quite serious, im fed up with having to type a password everytime i open a settings, configuration, or to do anything with a command-line.. its my computer, i doubt anyone will be using it besides me
[03:52] <UbuntuJeff> h00k, Well in 64bit, just having a little trouble getting gnome-do to run besides that all working so far lol
[03:52] <acerimmer> !troll
[03:52] <enter_name> justin22885: store your password in the key manager
[03:52] <shazbotmcnasty> justin22885, it kinda ruins the whole point of running linux...
[03:52] <justin22885> no loshki, linux doesnt have viruses because the literally millions of more users on windows makes windows a more logical target
[03:52] <GeekSquid> you could create a 1 digit password, make it easy to bypass the password prompt with 2 keystrokes
[03:52] <Davy> So I just updated my ubuntu, but I think something might have happened with my adobe flash player. I've read some stuff in the forums, but decided to come here for some help. I can't access some of the websites i could before the update. Can someone help me?
[03:52] <chak82> Guest66757: sorry
[03:52] <ridz16> MrPancake, where is Computer Janitor on xubuntu? I got that same prob on xubuntu
[03:52] <justin22885> yeah yeah.. here we go, linux without passwords every 5 minutes, so taboo
[03:52] <defrysk> enter_name, lunux uses ram to its full potential do some reading on it to understand this
[03:52] <shazbotmcnasty> Davy, what websites?
[03:52] <chak82> Guest66757: is that your case? http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1472475
[03:52] <justin22885> ive ran other distros without ever needing a password and guess what? no explosions
[03:52] <Davy> like my buddies want me to join tinychat
[03:53] <Davy> but it won't load for me anymore
[03:53] <bezao> my ubuntu server, wasnt asking to select a item on the grub, now it is asking how can i make it boot always on the first?
[03:53] <enter_name> defrysk: okee dokee, ill check it out, any recommended links?
[03:53] <ChogyDan> justin22885: I think you can set updates to auto install, and you can set your keyring password as blank
[03:53] <joscht> can someone help for some reason it is trying to update something not in /etc/apt/sources.list and it makes my update not work i get a 404 error not found
[03:53] <Guest66757> Chak82 if it weren't for the fact my media partition wasn't ext3 id of given up imagine what it feels like having to try to connect to a network for 3 weeks with no success
[03:53] <mcarter> hello
[03:54] <justin22885> i want a blank root password
[03:54] <IdleOne> justin22885: please calm down and stay on topic. Ubuntu does not support having a root account or running without password. you are welcome to continue using Ubuntu as it is or you can make whatever changes you like to it but we will not be able to help you when things break.
[03:54] <GeekSquid> justin22885: no, windows is insecure because by default anything can be run from a dll or exe file, bypassing the need for user intervention, with linux the  only way to run something that changes system files is to give it permission
[03:54] <mcarter> How can I create a network interface that has its own ip address but isn't associated with a physical card (I don't need it to have access to the internet)
[03:54] <Guest66757> No chak82 look. Ifconfig doesn't see my card nothing sees it but yet vista does even without drivers I should be able to see it
[03:54] <justin22885> when i double click on the launcher of an application, thats user intervention, everything between that and the program actually running is an annoyance
[03:54] <Cammy_> Every time I boot up Lucid, my theme is reset to no theme.  Does anyone have any idea how to make it remember my theme?
[03:55] <enter_name> defrysk: also the swap memory started to get used then never got emptied til i rebooted, it just seems like (for a netbook) a slower downerer
[03:55] <shazbotmcnasty> Davy, that's weird, make sure flash is installed, and sun java
[03:55] <Ganymede> mcarter, someone told me "modprobe dummy" in another channel regarding that, but i haven't looked into it
[03:55] <IdleOne> If anybody wants to continue discussing the pros/cons of running Ubuntu without a password please join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[03:55] <defrysk> enter_name, the ugliest site is also the most expalinory  ; http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[03:55] <chak82> Guest66757: i dont think the problem are related with filesystem type
[03:55] <Davy> shazbotmcnasty: oops...i may have forgot about sun java lol
[03:55] <Davy> i'll try that
[03:55] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: try iwconfig, anything?
[03:55] <mcarter> Ganymede, I will look into that, thanks
[03:55] <h00k> UbuntuJeff: cool.
[03:55] <enter_name> defrysk: ah okee dokee, thanks heaps, its got a stick figure drawing so it must be good
[03:55] <h00k> UbuntuJeff: and I know gnome-do should work, I'm using it now ;)
[03:56] <Guest66757> Chak82 my media partition? Windows doesn't read ext3 natively
[03:56] <defrysk> enter_name, have fun understanding the power of *nix
[03:56] <onetinsoldier> justin22885: i told you how to never have to type sudo in a terminal for command line stuff. have you even tried it? or was i just ignored by you?
[03:56] <Guest66757> Greezmunkey no I tried that already
[03:56] <UbuntuJeff> h00k, yeah but are you on openbox?
[03:56] <ridz16> can someone please help me about removing older LINUX version of ubuntu? I see two on grub screen http://bit.ly/94KwEQ
[03:56] <chak82> greezmunkey: iwconfig must be the solution, but if ubuntu doesnt see the device...
[03:57] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: Is the adapter usb?
[03:57] <enter_name> defrysk: lol thanks, but at the same time this isnt explaining why my netbook started using swap
[03:57] <Guest66757> justin22885 I don't think linux is for you
[03:57] <Ganymede> mcarter, i just tried it and got a network interface called dummy0 in ifconfig -a, not sure what i can do with it yet
[03:57] <Guest66757> Greezmunkey yes
[03:57] <Davy> shazbotmcnasty: is there a certain sun java that would be best?
[03:57] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: see what lsusb gives you...
[03:57] <effigy> h00k: remember me?  keeps crashing when i try to transfer from the ipod touch :\
[03:57] <chak82> Guest66757: can you see the last url that i send to you?
[03:57] <jud> Hey guy's, just up dated karmic and now text, regardless of the application it's viewed in, appears broken up by pixels, the same colour as the background. Know why this is?
[03:57] <Davy> cuz i'm seeing a lot of different dl options
[03:57] <defrysk> enter_name, using swap is awkward
[03:57] <Guest66757> Okay hold on I'm removing ndiswrapper and retrying
[03:57] <undecim> ridz16: Remove the software package that corresponds to the version you want to remove
[03:57] <Davy> unless i'm on the wrong page
[03:58] <mcarter> Ganymede, this works perfectly for what I need
[03:58] <Davy> lol
[03:58] <Davy> yeah
[03:58] <Davy> nm
[03:58] <GeekSquid> ridz16: that is just a kernel 17 megs total, not a complete ubuntu
[03:58] <Loshki> ridz16: well, you can remove the older one, but it's actually a good thing to an earlier version available, in case something goes horribly wrong with the version you're running...
[03:58] <mcarter> Ganymede, thanks a ton
[03:58] <enter_name> defrysk: i wouldnt think it would use swap until my ram is full, but ohwell, ill keep looking and reading, thanks for the link again
[03:58] <chak82> Guest66757: there discuss a problem does looks like yours
[03:58] <shazbotmcnasty> Davy, 32bit or 64bit?
[03:58] <justin22885> guest.. that is an idiotic thing for anyone to say
[03:58] <ridz16> ah I see
[03:58] <Davy> 32
[03:58] <Guest66757> OMG chak82 lsusb shows it
[03:58] <justin22885> linux isnt for me because im not paranoid of nonexistant viruses and hackers around every corner?
[03:59] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: I asked you to do that.
[03:59] <undecim> ridz16: yeah, like Loshki and GeekSquid pointed out. It's not that much space taken up, and its good to have an earlier version as a fallback
[03:59] <iflema> ridz16 there is only one installed.... there is the ewest and the last kernel.... just boot the newest... f the newest gives ya grief.... boot the last one wich did not.... and try the new one which did not.......
[03:59] <ridz16> thanks for the info yall
[03:59] <IdleOne> justin22885: drop it now please. You also Guest66757
[03:59] <Guest66757> Oh greezmunkey sorry
[03:59] <onetinsoldier> no. because someone tells you how to not have to type sudo anymore, and you keep going on about it being an issue
[03:59] <jud> Hey guy's, just up dated karmic and now text, regardless of the application it's viewed in, appears broken up by pixels, the same colour as the background. ANYONE know why this is?
[03:59] <defrysk> enter_name, i have any swap usage on my lap , only explanation might be the amount of ram you have , considere a light weigt ubuntu bersion
[03:59] <shazbotmcnasty> Davy, http://goo.gl/yGUM
[03:59] <h00k> effigy: I don't know, there, if it gives you a specific error or errors, try filing a bug
[04:00] <Guest66757> Idleone, I'm asking for help when is that considered wrong is this channel not meant to help?
[04:00] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: ok, so the system knows it's there - obviously it's a driver issue.
[04:00] <defrysk> *hardle any
[04:00] <IdleOne> Guest66757: I meant the dicussion about the password in linux
[04:00] <Guest66757> Greezmunkey, any way to roll back the driver?
[04:00] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: It's your throwing stones at justin22885 that did it.
[04:00] <Guest66757> Oh sorry idleone
[04:00] <evon> Nevermind everyone I figured it out
[04:01] <Cammy_> Does anyone have *any* idea why my theme won't stick?
[04:01] <undecim> Cammy_: What do you mean won't stick?
[04:01] <justin22885> doesnt anyone else find the constant passwords to be annoying and repetative? there are no viruses waiting for me, no ones trying to hack me, and if the police ever wanted to spy on my online activity theyd just deliver a warrant to my internet provider like they did in september
[04:01] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: The thing is, you shouldn't have been able to kill it by editing that file. But, it is ndwrapped, so just about anything is possible.
[04:02] <Cammy_> Every time I boot up Lucid, my theme is reset to no theme.  Same with nauilus
[04:02] <ridz16> lol @ justin
[04:02] <onetinsoldier> laters to him
[04:02] <jud> Hey guy's, just up dated karmic and now text, regardless of the application it's viewed in, appears broken up by pixels, the same colour as the background. ANYONE know why this is?
[04:02] <dipu> shazbotmcnasty : installed opera ...audio works there
[04:02] <Cammy_> I have to go into Appearance every time I log in
[04:02] <ridz16> why they sent a warrant? what were you doing?
[04:02] <Guest66757> greezmunkey, I'm thinking of formating this partition backing up all my stuff and going to ext4 on lucid manually? Would this work
[04:03] <zetheroo> how do you share printers in Ubuntu?
[04:03] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: That's a bit extreme, don't you think?
[04:04] <undecim> Cammy_: Something is causing gnome-settings-daemon not to start then.
[04:04] <Loshki> Guest66757: it should work, but it's a lot of trouble for very little benefit...
[04:04] <Cammy_> hmmmm
[04:04] <Guest66757> Greezmunkey not really, my system is slow even with a gaming rig with an i7 extreme processor.
[04:04] <shazbotmcnasty> dipu, well that means it's firefox only, I would probably reinstall firefox
[04:04] <effigy> h00k: do you know if it would work to just copy the folders with mp3's in them after i mount the ipod?  can i just put them back in that same folder after i clean the ipod?
[04:04] <dipu> shazbotmcnasty : sure thanks
[04:04] <Guest66757> Loshki not much trouble, its just a media server
[04:04] <Cammy_> but I see gnome-settings-daemon in System monitor
[04:04] <Cammy_> So it is running
[04:05] <undecim> Cammy_: Yeah, it starts when you run appearance
[04:05] <jud> Hey guy's, just up dated karmic and now text, regardless of the application it's viewed in, appears broken up by pixels, the same colour as the background. ANYONE know why this is?
[04:05] <Loshki> Guest66757: not much benefit either. Personally, I avoid ext4...
[04:05] <roberto__> anyone compile the AF9015 driver for 10.04 ?
[04:05] <Cammy_> Ah!
[04:05] <Cammy_> Hmmmm
[04:05] <Guest66757> Loshki, why
[04:05] <undecim> Cammy_: Maybe as a workaround, you could add it to the startup apps
[04:05] <Cammy_> Maybe I could add it to startup.... yes!
[04:05] <ridz16> i find using Chromium (linux chrome) much better than firefox on Xubuntu, cuz it uses 10 Mb ram less memory
[04:05] <Cammy_> Lemme try that, thanks undecim
[04:05] <undecim> Cammy_: When you log in it will take a second for the theme to set, but you won't have to do it manually
[04:06] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: you could try: rmmod ndiswrapper - and then modprobe ndiswrapper, to see if that wakes it up...
[04:06] <Cammy_> Good enough for me!
[04:06] <Loshki> Guest66757: some people come here reporting strange things have happened with their ext4 partitions. It's unclear whether it's pilot error or not. But we *know* ext3 is rock solid, so...
[04:06] <ridz16> ya like me, i was here last nite trying to fix my comp cuz it couldn't connetct
[04:06] <chak82> greezmunkey: how he can remove the windows driver in the kernel?
[04:07] <ridz16> now I'm must hanging out maybe I could learn a thing or two
[04:07] <roberto__> or -- better yet, anyone know how to turn off the custom leave-channel messages in Konversation?
[04:07] <jud> Hey guy's, just up dated karmic and now text, regardless of the application it's viewed in, appears broken up by pixels, the same colour as the background. ANYONE know why this is?
[04:07] <roberto__> I just got: [23:05] <-- FluffyMaster ha dejado este servidor (Quit: Q: What do you call a blind pre-historic animal? A: Diyathinkhesaurus.  Q: What do you call a blind pre-historic animal with a dog? A: Diyathinkhesaurus Rex.).
[04:07] <Guest66757> Loshki, very well on a percentage range how reliable is it?
[04:07] <tamale1> I'm having a real problem with 10.04.. on my laptop, after several hours of normal behavior and performance, the machine becomes utterly unresponsive. The moue cursor still tracks, but I can't really click on anything or type anything, as it takes almost 30 seconds for my commands to have any effect.
[04:08] <tamale1> I have to reboot
[04:08] <mkquist> am not able to make windows shares with lynx...
[04:08] <roberto__> tamale1: what's "df -k" say ?
[04:08] <greezmunkey> chak82: ndsiwrapper (the way I understand it) allows you to run the win driver as a kernel module. rmmod detaches it from the kernel, modprobe attaches. If I am wrong, I'll look into it more.
[04:08] <roberto__> tamale1: anything at 100%?
[04:08] <poenuosecr> is there a way to VNC to a computer on your own LAN without running a service that someone could hack into?
[04:09] <hololight> greezmunkey, yes, that is right
[04:09] <undecim> poenuosecr: Not really. You need to run a service to be able to receive connections.
[04:09] <greezmunkey> hololight: cool, I have managed to learn something here.
[04:09] <chak82> greezmunkey: so, uninstalling and removing completely ndiswrapper must remove the win driver, right?
[04:09] <Guest66757> Greezmunkey all config files need .conf, I uninstalled it
[04:09] <poenuosecr> undecim: even if it's on your own lan?
[04:09] <greezmunkey> poenuosecr: no
[04:10] <undecim> Well, someone would need to be on your lan to attempt to hack into it.
[04:10] <undecim> poenuosecr:  Well, someone would need to be on your lan to attempt to hack into it.
[04:10] <GeekSquid> tamale1: when it happens do CTRL-ALT-F1 login and run top to see what is taking up your cpu cycles
[04:10] <roberto__> poenuosecr: you mean a service that isn't open from the internet but is open within the lan?
[04:10] <greezmunkey> poenuosecr: the service sites there listening for incoming connections - no listener, no connection.
[04:10] <hololight> chak82: if you were to completely uninstall ndiswrapper, yes, the win driver would be gone
[04:10] <tamale1> GeekSquid: it's not CPU, i think it's HDD IO
[04:10] <hololight> chak82: but there is also a way to remove the win driver from ndiswrapper, i forget the command though
[04:10] <undecim> poenuosecr: What I do with my HTPC, though is have SSH running, then log in, set the DISPLAY variable, then run x11vnc and connect
[04:10] <tamale1> GeekSquid: what would've changed in that regard from 9.10 to 10.04 though?
[04:10] <chak82> Guest66757: this is your solution. REMOVE COMPLETELY NDISWRAPPER
[04:10] <roberto__> :D that poor guy can't possibly read all the responses :P
[04:11] <emes> after updating to lucid, when I open a gtk file dialog, the program hangs a good 15 seconds before displaying the dialog. what's wrong?
[04:11] <undecim> poenuosecr: That way, VNC isn't always listening, except right before I make the connection.
[04:11] <lucas-arg> hello, ive installed xubuntu-desktop, but i cant get xubuntus theme in gdm nor in xfce, how can i reconfigure them?
[04:11] <Guest66757> Chak82 sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper won't work?
[04:11] <poenuosecr> greezmunkey: I have another question. are you running a service when you're using bittorrent?
[04:11] <greezmunkey> hololight: udo rm -r /etc/ndiswrapper/
[04:11] <greezmunkey> sudo rm -r /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[04:11] <d0s4gw> I just installed 10.04 (amd 64 bit) and I am having issues with my ATI Radeon driver... anyone feel like helping me out?
[04:11] <greezmunkey> poenuosecr: kind of, yes
[04:11] <auk> anyone have issue with volume applet icon on gnome panel disappearing after upgrade to lucid?
[04:11] <poenuosecr> greezmunkey: what do you mean kind of?
[04:12] <undecim> auk: Add the indicator applet to your panel
[04:12] <Radio-l> why would two different Windows 7 loaders appear when I run update-grub?
[04:12] <chak82> Guest66757: i maybe tryin with synaptic with the option "REMOVE COMPLETELY"
[04:12] <undecim> Radio-l: A recovery partition
[04:12] <Radio-l> they are found on /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2
[04:12] <greezmunkey> poenuosecr: it's only there when you run it. Traditional services start at boot.
[04:12] <hololight> Radio-l: win7 has some sort of chain loader for itself now
[04:12] <Radio-l> interesting, I thought I cleared it
[04:12] <lepine> Can someone explain what the screen 'install screen by default at login' is supposed to do?
[04:13] <roberto__> is there a caching dns server package for ubuntu ?
[04:13] <lepine> I assumed that everytime I opened a terminal, screen would be there, but that doesn't seem to be the case
[04:13] <Radio-l> the laptop also has a set of Vista loaders and an 11gb partition set aside for that
[04:13] <auk> undecim: hmm very curious
[04:13] <lepine> or perhaps there's something wrong on my end
[04:13] <Radio-l> some kind of hidden recovery tool that toshiba uses I guess
[04:13] <lepine> I *did* log out and back in
[04:13] <wers> who's using Shutter on lucid? for some reason, I can't edit images with it anymore. "Edit" is grayed out
[04:13] <auk> there are two separate indicator/docking areas now?
[04:13] <ridz16> I have 2 HDD, one of them has ubuntu 10, say I want to copy the O.S to the other HDD so I can boot on it as well, how do I go on doing that?
[04:14] <auk> one has the banshee, pidgin icons etc
[04:14] <undecim> auk: yup. It sucks IMHO, but it's not too bad
[04:14] <hololight> Radio-l: I had a HP with win7 and it was the same
[04:14] <hololight> actually I had 3.... two labled win 7 and one vista
[04:14] <undecim> auk: There may be a way to merge them, but I haven't looked into it yet
[04:14] <scap> Anyone know where I can find the listing of security patches that have been applied to various ubuntu distros?
[04:14] <scap> I need to find out if certain CVEs have been addressed
[04:14] <Guest66757> Woot greezmunkey and chak82 I love you both haha! It works and thanks for everyone elses help now I can do it properly
[04:14] <whammo> can anybody recommend a browser that they can confirm is able to embed mplayer for flash videos?
[04:14] <onezero> I want to use my server as a media server, streaming movies and watching webtv. What do I need on top of ubuntu-server to run firefox to watch web-tv?
[04:14] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: what fixed it?
[04:15] <chak82> Guest66757: does it works now?
[04:15] <Guest66757> Hmmmm greezmunkey either the rm -r one or the mod probe
[04:15] <onezero> whammo: Is it important that it's imbedded, or would it be OK to have it opened in mplayer outside the browser?
[04:15] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: ha, there you go :)
[04:15] <Guest66757> Chak82 well not wpa but hey! Now I can do it correctly yay
[04:15] <Sna4x81> I'm trying to install ubuntu vi pxe.  I successfully installed fine on one machine, but another boots then deadlocks before the install screen.  Any input is appreciated.
[04:16] <effigy> anyone know if you can copy the music directory of an ipod touch (with all the random folders/filenames), reformat the ipod, then put the music back like that in the same folder?
[04:16] <Guest66757> Now I hope I can get a server up and running in 3 hours tommrow :)
[04:16] <auk> undecim: yes i hated it when the they moved the volume icon into the notification area on karmic, cause i used to keep it in the far upper left corner for easy access
[04:16] <jzmg> is anyone else having a problem with nvidia drivers and more than 2 monitors without twinview?
[04:16] <whammo> onezero: well, if it can stream at least it does not need to be embedded, but I want mplayer for its ability to play nice with jack
[04:16] <chak82> Guest66757: that is strange, normally, linksys  supports wpa too
[04:16] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: yo
[04:16] <auk> undecim: but having to separate ones, with no clear distinction of purpose, is plain ridiculous
[04:16] <Guest66757> Auk, do what I do bind f11 and f12 for volume
[04:16] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: You didn't try to reinstall the ndiswrapper at some point, did you - I mean before the last 30 min or so?
[04:16] <auk> *two separate ones
[04:16] <undecim> auk: Yeah. I also wish I could just use right-click on the rhythmbox icon like I'm used to...
[04:16] <Guest66757> Greezmunkey no :/
[04:16] <greezmunkey> hellphyre: ! hey!
[04:16] <virtuald> scap: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/
[04:16] <Guest66757> Okay I have to go guys
[04:17] <scap> virtuald: thanks
[04:17] <onezero> whammo: Then I suggest using firefox with MediaPlayerConnectivity extension. It forwards embedded media to a media player of your choice. Have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[04:17] <undecim> auk: Right-click now gets a panel menu :(
[04:17] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: samba hates me, haha
[04:17] <roberto__> ridz16: you have 2 of the exact same drives?
[04:17] <auk> undecim: well i could swing the mouse to the corner and scroll, bring volume up or down
[04:17] <auk> sooo smooth
[04:17] <greezmunkey> Guest66757: doesn't much matter now, does it!
[04:17] <whammo> ooo thats sound interesting. and yes
[04:17] <Mean_admin> hey, I am looking for in-depth ressources (Books, articles,etc) to understand Ubuntu's inner workings! What recommend you, people of the channel ?
[04:17] <chak82> Guest66757: ok
[04:17] <jzmg> Is there a way to make windows maximize to only one monitor when you have twinview enabled?
[04:17] <jud> Hey guy's, just up dated karmic and now text, regardless of the application it's viewed in, appears broken up by pixels, the same colour as the background. ANYONE know why this is?
[04:17] <greezmunkey> hellphyre: did you look through the links I sent you ln
[04:17]  * undecim wonders if the xfce volume applet would work well in gnome
[04:17] <Cammy_> ok, odd.
[04:17] <Guest66757> Nope if I'm on tommrow ill tell you how it went
[04:17] <auk> undecim: are there any bug/feature requests i can vote for?
[04:17] <mcarter> How can I start a process and set limits on its real-memory and virtual memory?
[04:18] <ridz16> roberto__ yes two 320 Gb
[04:18] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: yes but alot of the terminal commands are useless... point to bad locations from old versions of ubuntu i guess..
[04:18] <whammo> onezero: so this extension is found browsing thourgh ff's add-ons?
[04:18] <roberto__> Mean_admin: search "torrent ubuntu book" on google :)
[04:18] <Cammy_> Now when I log in, the theme applies, but then vanishes immediately.
[04:18] <onezero> whammo: Yes, you are correct.
[04:18] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: made it impossible to follow the guides
[04:18] <Mean_admin> robert__:  there are a lot...
[04:18] <undecim> auk: What do you mean?
[04:18] <whammo> onezero: that may be the answer. thanks!
[04:19] <onezero> whammo: Great, nice to be of help.
[04:19] <Narya> how much base memory should I give a windows 7 vbox install, if I'm using it 50% of the time by itself and the other 50% with my ubuntu install?
[04:19] <Narya> 4gig ram btw
[04:19] <jzmg> Could someone help me with  TwinView question please?
[04:19] <auk> oh i thought this was you (undecim): <Guest66757> Auk, do what I do bind f11 and f12 for volume
[04:19] <greezmunkey> hellphyre: well, you could always completely remove samba, then reinstall to be sure you have everything you need. That explains a few things from last night though.
[04:19] <auk> undecim, what i mean is can i vote on a bugs to get these things integrated/fixed in future releases
[04:19] <ridz16> jzmg: what's your question
[04:20] <Cammy_> What on earth would kill gnome-settings-daemon after I log in?
[04:20] <onezero> If I install ubuntu server, what more do I need to run firefox with full gui for web-tv and such?
[04:20] <jud> Anyone used the #10.04 IRC channel?
[04:20] <undecim> auk: Launchpad or Brainstorm you could
[04:20] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: whats really wierd is if i do smbfind it doesnt list my win server yet i installed xSMBrowser and it can see the win machine but cannot connect to it...
[04:21] <roberto__> ridz16: from the livecd partition the new drive same as the old, then in terminal do "dd if=/dev/original_hdd of=/dev/new_hdd bs=512 conv=sync,noerror" and re-read that line 3 times to make sure you didnt get the drives backwards :) -- then run it and go grab a bite
[04:21] <kermit> since when did ksoftirqd need 15% of my CPU constantly?
[04:22] <undecim> auk: hey, check out gnome-volume-control-applet. Just found it.
[04:22] <nomad111> hi, im trying to enable desktop effects on my 10.04 desktop. I previously installed proprietry nvidia drivers. when i select normal setting for visual effects. I see the following crop up in the terminal http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/kCHAJM9P. Has anyone seen this before?
[04:23] <Cammy_> Hmmm, gonna try emptying my start up apps and seeing if that makes any difference
[04:23] <undecim> auk: It was already install on my system and gave me the applet like in 9.10
[04:23] <drknzz> hi guys! how can i install 32 bits opengl libraries? wine cant find/use x64 ones :(
[04:24] <greezmunkey> hellphyre: check this out, open a terminal and go to /etc/samba - then paste smb.conf
[04:24] <auk> undecim: nice! i had looked at it a whole bunch as package but couldn't figure out how to get it back on the panel
[04:24] <Loshki> onezero: if you want to run firefox, I think you'll be better off with a desktop version....
[04:24] <debugger-> http://www.112chan.ro/j/res/803.html#803
[04:25] <maxiwll_Ar> -br
[04:25] <debugger-> http://www.112chan.ro/j/res/803.html#803
[04:25] <dozler> anyone run 10.04 w/ compiz?
[04:25] <auk> undecim: oh but it's in the notification zone...the old one
[04:25] <bastid_raZor> debugger-: go away with that nonsense
[04:25] <Loshki> !ops | please take care of debugger-
[04:25] <MrPancake> !anyone | dozler
[04:25] <lucas-arg> where does xubuntu saves its wallpapers?
[04:25] <undecim> Now if only i can figure out how to do this with the battery applet...
[04:25] <scap> virtuald: if I have a specific cve that isn't found on that site does that mean that nothing has been done for it?
[04:25] <onezero> Loshki: Yeah, but it's so much stuff I don't need in the desktop releases. I only need firefox in the GUI
[04:26] <dozler> does anyone run 10.04 w/ compiz fusion?
[04:26] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: what do you mean paste smb?
[04:26] <virtuald> scap: i have no idea, try asking in #ubuntu-hardened
[04:26] <scap> k thanks
[04:26] <ramashankar> hhh
[04:26] <greezmunkey> hellphyre: while I check that in a term, do: ps ax | grep smbd - dou you get more than one line?
[04:27] <ridz16> roberto__: thnx, would this clone all the data of the HDD to another one?
[04:27] <greezmunkey> hellphyre: heh, I was waiting for you to paste the contents of /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:27] <Loshki> onezero: unless you're short of disk space, you won't notice, and if you need an X11 display, you want desktop. It's much easier to add servers to desktop than vice-versa...
[04:27] <onezero> Loshki: Ok, I'll settle with that, thank you.
[04:27] <Loshki> virtuald: what's a cve and what's the topic in #ubuntu-hardened ?
[04:28] <ramashankar> rama
[04:28] <maco> Loshki: its a security vulnerability report. i forget what it stands for though :P
[04:28] <UbuntuJeff> Requesting help, I went through the minimal install and installed pulseaudio and all that, I see the volume meter going up and down so I know sound is working, but it doesn't show my soundcard under the options and I have no sound through my speakers at all. Any idea?
[04:28] <joaovitorAM> exit
[04:28] <hellphyre> its not letting me open
[04:28] <hellphyre> greezmunkey:
[04:28] <Loshki> maco: cool, tbanks...
[04:28] <CloudMonkee> omfg, i love ubuntu 10.04
[04:28] <virtuald> loshki: common vulnerabilities and exposures if i remember correctly, a database to track security issues in software as i understand it
[04:28] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: permission denied
[04:28] <Loshki> virtuald: makes sense, thanks...
[04:29] <dozler> cloud monkey do you run compiz fusion on your 10.04?
[04:29] <greezmunkey> hellphyre: cat /etc/samba/smb.conf returns permission denied?
[04:29] <JoshDreamland> Hey, my tab complete is broken. It only works for filenames, never parameters like "install" or "-jar"
[04:29] <virtuald> loshki: http://cve.mitre.org
[04:29] <CloudMonkee> dozler, no I don't
[04:29] <JoshDreamland> Anyone know how I can fix that?
[04:29] <whammo> onezero: did you say it works for flash (swf) becuase it didn't give an option for it
[04:29] <roberto__> JoshDreamland: heh, I know what you mean :P
[04:29] <Loshki> virtuald: looking now, thank you...
[04:30] <hellphyre> you left out cat before
[04:30] <hellphyre> greezmunkey:
[04:30] <JoshDreamland> roberto__: same problem?
[04:30] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: you want me to paste this where?
[04:30] <roberto__> JoshDreamland: it's not a problem. tab completin never works for optional parameters
[04:30] <greezmunkey> hellphyre: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:30] <onezero> whammo: If you open the MediaPlayerConnectivity preferences under Tools (I think) you can also choose flash. Never tried it myself, though.
[04:31] <JoshDreamland> roberto__: That's funny, it works on this box.
[04:31] <JoshDreamland> Completes both of the examples I mentioned.
[04:31] <CloudMonkee> what's some desirable software on ubuntu, anyone?
[04:31] <roberto__> JoshDreamland: what does? tab completion for optional parameters?
[04:31] <JoshDreamland> Then completes filenames as parameters.
[04:31] <whammo> onezero: oic.
[04:31] <JoshDreamland> roberto__: yes
[04:31] <Gryllida> is sasl possible in pidgin & where to read about it?
[04:31] <JoshDreamland> I type java -j[tab], I get java -jar
[04:32] <Madpilot> CloudMonkee, define "desirable" - that's kind of an open-ended question...
[04:32] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/s9BRrJcK
[04:32] <CloudMonkee> gryllida, do you know why they switched from pidgin to empathy?
[04:32] <JoshDreamland> sudo apt-get i[tab] gets me sudo apt-get install
[04:32] <nomad111> hi, im trying to enable desktop effects on my 10.04 desktop. I previously installed proprietry nvidia drivers. when i select normal setting for visual effects. I see the following crop up in the terminal http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/kCHAJM9P. Has anyone seen this before?
[04:32] <CloudMonkee> gryllida, plus I actually like empathy a lot more :).
[04:32] <JoshDreamland> But not on my other box, which I've upgraded twice without success.
[04:32] <Gryllida> CloudMonkee, no idea, try sudo apt-get install pidgin
[04:33] <nomad111> i know people running with intel cards get a similar issue.
[04:33] <Gryllida> CloudMonkee, I see
[04:33] <roberto__> JoshDreamland: when you tab complete - you scan a database for executables that match if you are at the start of a command in bash. if you are after the start of a command, tab completion will search the filesystem instead. it never searches throgh the application for optional parameters because unix programs aren't written with any reflection
[04:33] <greezmunkey> hellphyre: ok, pretty much default, rename that one to smb.conf.old - ok
[04:33] <CloudMonkee> Madpilot: Haa, anything that simplifies innate & redundant tasks... makes life better
[04:33] <CloudMonkee> Madpilot: I stay on my comp 24/7 btw
[04:34] <JoshDreamland> roberto__: So are you calling this paranormal, or are you calling me a liar?
[04:34] <JoshDreamland> Because I am doing exactly what I said above -right now-
[04:34] <Jordan_U> roberto__: Actually there is a package, bash-completion, that comes with ubuntu by default, that has scripts for tab completion with common commands
[04:35] <mkquist_> anyone know the command to restart samba?
[04:35] <Madpilot> CloudMonkee, hmm. Still pretty open-ended there, I think... :)
[04:35] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: terminal to rename? im new to linux commands
[04:35] <nomad111> mkquist, service smb restart
[04:35] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: wont let me rename with gui
[04:35] <mkquist_> nomad111: what happened to /etc/init.d/samba restart?
[04:35] <nomad111> same thing
[04:35] <CloudMonkee> madpilot, jeez just list some software you, personally, think is cool
[04:35] <roberto__> JoshDreamland: you started out by saying that it never works. unix applications are absolutely not written with reflection, so if you have that tab completion someone wrote a custom bash plugin and hand picked application's and their parameters for completion for you .. I 'd guess
[04:36] <mkquist_> nomad111: did not work
[04:36] <wers> what tool can you recommend to convert svg to jpeg?
[04:36] <nomad111> mkquist, try your one then
[04:36] <nomad111> oh actually
[04:36] <nomad111> what about service smbd restart
[04:36] <mkquist_> nomad111: well that didnt work either or i wouldnt ask = )
[04:36] <Jordan_U> JoshDreamland: sudo apt-get install bash-completion
[04:37] <silare> Does anyone know how to get Intel 3945 working with NetworkMAnager? :/
[04:37] <mkquist_> nomad111: its the service part that it doesnt like
[04:37] <Madpilot> CloudMonkee, OK. Inkscape, if you're into graphic design. DOSbox, so you can run 15 year old computer games and realize they're still pretty good. (which is what I'm doing in between paying attention to IRC right now...)
[04:37] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: pmed you the other results you asked for
[04:37] <virtuald> joshdreamland: enable bash completion in ~/.bashrc
[04:37] <CloudMonkee> madpilot, lovely. inkscape is better than GIP, which I think is a desirable interchangeable solution to Adobe.
[04:38] <zetheroo> how to share printers in Ubuntu?
[04:38] <JoshDreamland> Jordan_U: Mine's quite broken. Have a fix?
[04:38] <CloudMonkee> madpilot, GIMP*
[04:38] <greezmunkey> hellphyre: ok on that, get this and copy it into a new document in gedit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/429287/
[04:38] <RxDx> i have 3gb on my notebook, should I use ubuntu 10.04 32 or 64bits?
[04:38] <Madpilot> CloudMonkee, Inkscape has a far better UI than GIMP, true.
[04:38] <JoshDreamland> Jordan_U: Pidgin stopped scrolling, missed your reply. It's installed, but isn't working correctly. It only completes the first command.
[04:38] <Jordan_U> CloudMonkee: xmoto is addictive.
[04:38] <virtuald> joshdreamland: open .bashrc in your home directory with a text editor
[04:38] <Madpilot> recent GIMP releases have been getting far better, though. Far more usable, that is.
[04:38] <CloudMonkee> rxdx, 32 bit only lets you use 4GB of ram while i believe 64 bit lets you use 16gb+
[04:39] <JoshDreamland> virtuald: No such file.
[04:39] <Loshki> RxDx: no need to use 64 bit with 3G of ram, and 32 bit is generally more stable...
[04:39] <RxDx> CloudMonkee, i have just 3gb... i heard that 64bits has some bugs
[04:39] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: ok
[04:39] <greezmunkey> hellphyre: save that to /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:39] <RxDx> Loshki, is 64bit visible fastest than 32?
[04:39] <virtuald> joshdreamland: are you sure? "dotfiles" are hidden normally
[04:39] <JoshDreamland> virtuald: positive.
[04:40] <drknzz> How can i make an app think its rinning on a 32 bit enviroment?
[04:40] <JoshDreamland> only .bash_history
[04:40] <CloudMonkee> rxdx, i'm running 64 bit... i'm a newbie to linux/ubuntu, but I'm not experiencing any bugs. It's actually quite lovely.
[04:40] <virtuald> joshdreamland: ok, could you copy it from your working machine?
[04:40] <greezmunkey> hellphyre: now you can edit it to your liking, we can go though it line bu line if needed
[04:40] <JoshDreamland> am attempting
[04:40] <Loshki> RxDx: 64bit is supposed to be faster, but in practice I'm not sure if you'd notice...
[04:40] <virtuald> joshdreamland: or from another user on the same
[04:40] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[04:40] <BlacKnight> Hello! anyone know how to compress a file in .z format  ?
[04:40] <greezmunkey> hellphyre: save it to your home directory for now then, sorry.
[04:41] <Wicked> how can i tell if a package installed is 32 or 64 bit?
[04:41] <virtuald> joshdreamland: there should be a copy in /etc/skel/ too (hidden unless you do ls -A)
[04:41] <roberto__> BlacKnight: .Z ? compress command
[04:41] <Guest63431> in trying to use the remote desktop feature of 10.04, i have successfully connected my moto droid to it, and i can see my scree and click things and send text from my phone to my box. however...upon opening and closing windows, and also disconnecting from the phone and connecting again....it seems that the remote desktop part of ubuntu is failing to update...as it will show "old windows" even after I've exited them or opened new ones...
[04:41] <CloudMonkee> rxdx, 64 bit is for the future as well. You don't want to have to reinstall later on do you. Just use the best. There is no real reason to actually stick with 32 bit while 64 bit is better and does the exact same thing plus more.
[04:41] <BlacKnight> no, z  file
[04:42] <BlacKnight> like   file.z
[04:42] <onetinsoldier> Wicked: what package? let's go with a specific package
[04:42] <JoshDreamland> !!!
[04:42] <JoshDreamland> virtuald: You're my hero for the day
[04:42] <virtuald> :)
[04:42] <Guest63431> in trying to use the remote desktop feature of 10.04, i have successfully connected my moto droid to it, and i can see my scree and click things and send text from my phone to my box. however...upon opening and closing windows, and also disconnecting from the phone and connecting again....it seems that the remote desktop part of ubuntu is failing to update...as it will show "old windows" even after I've exited them or opened new ones...
[04:42] <BAMF> type /server irc.encyclopediadramatica.com
[04:42] <Loshki> RxDx: I guess CloudMonkee and I will just have to agree to disagree about 32 bit vs 64...
[04:42] <JoshDreamland> in fact, today's only eight minutes; you can be my hero for tomorrow, too
[04:42] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: ok
[04:43] <virtuald> hehe
[04:43] <GeekSquid> LinuxHack3r: is this over 3g or wifi?
[04:44] <greezmunkey> hellphyre: so you saved a copy, now you need to edit it. You can see that file is paired down quite a bit from the default, you see my comments?
[04:44] <onetinsoldier> Wicked: what package? do you have a specific package in mind we could use as an example?
[04:44] <LinuxHack3r> Where could I go for more info on remote desktop, or possible install a vnc server that works better...
[04:44] <roberto__> is there a caching dns server package for ubuntu ?
[04:44] <LinuxHack3r> GeekSquid: tried over both...exactly the same...
[04:44] <Wicked> onetinsoldier, yea. xchat...but i found the deb file in /var/cache/apt and it is 64bit
[04:44] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: sweet thanks, ill take a peek through it in a bit, ill catch you later on maybe. thanks again for day 2
[04:44] <greezmunkey> hellphyre: np :)
[04:44] <hellphyre> greezmunkey: later
[04:45] <onetinsoldier> Wicked: roger. that's one way i was going to say you can tell. is in the package name. but here's a way to be even more sure... the file command
[04:45] <Wicked> ah.
[04:45] <GeekSquid> LinuxHack3r: I believe that problem may be with the droid client, have you tried another? I have no problem with VNC over a network with several clients
[04:45] <Wicked> good thinking
[04:45] <Wicked> i did not think that myself :)
[04:45] <onetinsoldier> Wicked: chout the following command --> file /usr/bin/xchat
[04:46] <Wicked> yea. :)
[04:46] <onetinsoldier> roger
[04:46] <Wicked> onetinsoldier, thanks for the info :)
[04:46] <onetinsoldier> Wicked: you're welcome
[04:46] <dark-knight> for some reason, when loading up after loading bios, the screen just goes black sometimes? other times it will go to the login and then after logging in just go black. any help?
[04:47] <LinuxHack3r> GeekSquid: possibly...but tried with two clients on the droid and exactly the same...it seems to me that ubuntu is sending it "former images"....because even after i exit the client and connect later....it still shows the "former image"...
[04:47] <GeekSquid> LinuxHack3r: I am trying it now with my droid
[04:47] <mdik> LinuxHack3r: take NX
[04:47] <tapan_chugh> i am able to play music but other sounds are not working. please help
[04:48] <albertolempira> hey guys, i'm trying to record a streaming file from the internet and vlc creates the file at the destination folder but it doesn't record anything since the file is only 4bytes and cannot be played. Can somebody help me with that? thanks in advance...
[04:48] <melanie> what the best video player for lucid...codec and all?????
[04:49] <dark-knight> for some reason, when loading up after loading bios, the screen just goes black sometimes? other times it will go to the login and then after logging in just go black. any help?
[04:49] <IdleOne> !polls | melanie
[04:49] <Loshki> melanie: any one of vlc, mplayer, totem, xine. I like mplayer myself, and vlc for dvds...
[04:49] <tapan_chugh> please help me
[04:50] <onetinsoldier> melanie: i'd say a lot of them are great... vlc, gxine, gmplayer, ect. i had trouble playing a couple .mov files until i tried winff
[04:50] <tapan_chugh> i am able to play music
[04:50] <angelia> hi, I'm brand new to linux, is there anything I should 100% download for security wise, or is pretty safe as is..?
[04:50] <tapan_chugh> but i am not able to hear any sounds
[04:50] <dot> drhodes i direct you to buy gas.
[04:50] <mdik> albertolempira: when it's a complete file which you stream, you often can find it in /tmp
[04:50] <JoshDreamland> tapan_chugh: What kinds of sounds?
[04:50] <LinuxHack3r1> GeekSquid: I have tried androidvnc, remote vnc pro, and remote vnc ad (i figured the pro may work better...same problem...just no ad;)
[04:50] <tapan_chugh> well notifications etc
[04:50] <dot> Poof!
[04:50] <Mechdave> angelia, Linux is not really affected by virises
[04:50] <dark-knight> angelia nope, you are good outta the box.
[04:50] <angelia> cool
[04:50] <IdleOne> angelia: you are pretty safe as is. practice safe internet browsing and use Synaptic Package Manager from the System menu to get applications
[04:50] <angelia> so do I need the firewall firestarter I think it's called?
[04:51] <angelia> yeah that's how I got this
[04:51] <Mechdave> angelia, you just need to make sure that you have a firewall on your modem
[04:51] <angelia> or oh I mean I used something else the software center
[04:51] <mdik> Mechdave: a what?
[04:51] <IdleOne> angelia: that is good too
[04:51] <dark-knight> for some reason, when loading up after loading bios, the screen just goes black sometimes? other times it will go to the login and then after logging in just go black. any help?
[04:51] <tapan_chugh> also i am not able to change volume via the volume applet
[04:52] <angelia> and this xchat ubuntu is just for if people have questions?
[04:52] <Mechdave> mdik, yeah, a firewall on your dsl modem
[04:52] <JoshDreamland> dark-knight: Does it respond to key presses?
[04:52] <mdik> you dont need nothing to be safe except dont run services which dont need to be run and keeping everything up-to-date
[04:52] <dot> or oh I mean I used something else the software center
[04:52] <Mechdave> angelia, how are you accessing the internet?
[04:52] <dot> a what?
[04:52] <tapan_chugh> it shows waiting for sound system to respond
[04:52] <albertolempira> mdik hi!, i've just looked there but there are other files... no sound files.
[04:52] <dot> also i am not able to change volume via the volume applet
[04:52] <mdik> Mechdave: what for?
[04:52] <tapan_chugh> please help
[04:52] <dot> angelia, how are you accessing the internet?
[04:52] <dark-knight> JoshDreamland nope it doesn't respond to anything but turning it off.
[04:52] <dot> or oh I mean I used something else the software center
[04:52] <FloodBot1> dot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:52] <dot> FloodBot1: what for?
[04:52] <melanie> what the best video player for lucid...codec and all?????
[04:52] <IdleOne> angelia: this channel (#ubuntu) is for support questions like you just asked yes
[04:52] <JoshDreamland> dark-knight: Including ctrl-alt-f2?
[04:52] <LinuxHack3r1> GeekSquid: any progress?
[04:52] <Mechdave> mdik, because Ubuntu doesn't have a firewall up and running standard
[04:52] <dark-knight> melanie i prefer vlc
[04:52] <silare> Does anyone know how to get Intel 3945 working with NetworkMAnager? :/
[04:52] <angelia> dot: what do you mean? dsl
[04:52] <GeekSquid> LinuxHack3r: I am using android-vnc-viewer right now and it is updating rightly
[04:53] <mdik> albertolempira: sometimes they are called mpxxxxx, when they are coming from the mplayer-plugin
[04:53] <JoshDreamland> dark-knight: and ctrl-alt-delete?
[04:53] <mdik> or similar when coming from other plugins, albertolempira
[04:53] <mdik> Mechdave: because you dont need one
[04:53] <dark-knight> JoshDreamland yes, nothing happens when trying to go to a virtual terminal or ctrl alt delete. it does not respond to anything, it just sits at the black screen, although my wireless card shows it is working, and the little lights on the bottom show it is thinking, but i see/can't react with anything
[04:53] <auk> how can i tell how much of a partition is used/free?
[04:53] <lordjodi> hey
[04:53] <melanie> k
[04:53] <mdik> Mechdave, angelia: no running services means no need for a firewall
[04:53] <Mechdave> mdik, you are crazy not to run a firewall of some type or other
[04:53] <GeekSquid> LinuxHack3r: how may colors do you have it set to ... i am using 64 colors, seems to work well
[04:54] <angelia> mdik: what do you mean by running services?
[04:54] <mdik> Mechdave: get real
[04:54] <roberto__> wow
[04:54] <Mechdave> mdik, angelia I advise you both to run one as there are many ways to get in to a box from the outside and create havoc
[04:54] <roberto__> the stock market fell 9% today
[04:54] <mdik> angelia: like a web-server or something in that direction. but you'd had to install one and configure one to listen to the outside-world to be in danger
[04:54] <melanie> what the best video player for lucid...codec and all, more please
[04:54] <Maleko> how do you add an iptables rule to particular position?
[04:55] <mdik> Mechdave, angelia: not if there are no services running. and there are none out-of-the-box
[04:55] <hanasaki> using xrdp - the "s" key is mapped not to S but brings up the menu to logout/restart/shutdown
[04:55] <dark-knight> JoshDreamland yes, nothing happens when trying to go to a virtual terminal or ctrl alt delete. it does not respond to anything, it just sits at the black screen, although my wireless card shows it is working, and the little lights on the bottom show it is thinking, but i see/can't react with anything
[04:55] <phinfinity> how do you list the available hard disk drives and partition from shell
[04:55] <onezero> melanie: have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[04:55] <angelia> mdik: yeah I'm not running a web-server or anything like that..
[04:55] <mdik> Mechdave: read for a change
[04:55] <naples_guy> i have firefox 3.0.  how can i upgrade?  'sudo apt-get upgrade firefox?'
[04:55] <albertolempira> mdik nope there's no mpxxxx file... do you know any other way to record a streming file? 'cause i've been trying for two hours now with no success.
[04:55] <mdik> albertolempira: no, sorry
[04:55] <JoshDreamland> dark-knight: Who's your card manufacturer?
[04:56] <melanie> yes
[04:56] <auk> phinfinity: u can do sudo fdisk -l
[04:56] <xangua> naples_guy: what version of ubuntu¿
[04:56] <phinfinity> what can i do if i want the drive labels??
[04:56] <Mechdave> mdik, I don't appreciate your tone
[04:56] <mkquist> albertolempira: a streaming file?
[04:56] <auk> phinfinity: what do you mean by 'available' though?
[04:56] <naples_guy> 8.10
[04:56] <albertolempira> mdik well, i suppose i'll look for some answer on google
[04:56] <onezero> naples_guy: A 'sudo apt-get install' will update to the newest version in the repositories
[04:56] <melanie> onezero : yes but i have problem whit codec!!!
[04:56] <mkquist> albertolempira: like a radio stream?
[04:56] <dark-knight> the card says dlink airplus, but its not an issue with the card, i'd assume its someting to do with X
[04:56] <phinfinity> fdisk -l is ok but i want to know the drive labels as well
[04:56] <albertolempira> mkquist yeap, exactly!
[04:56] <melanie> what the best video player for lucid...codec and all, more please...
[04:56] <angelia> mdik, mechdave: thx
[04:57] <mkquist> albertolempira: do you have the stream location?
[04:57] <onezero> melanie: vlc always works, but haven't got the best performance. apt-get i
[04:57] <LinuxHack3r1> GeekSquid: any progress?
[04:57] <GeekSquid> LinuxHack3r: delay of a second or 2, both checkboxes on android-vnc-viewer should be unchecked and colors set to 64 for best results
[04:57] <mdik> Mechdave: with all due respect, please consider reading one of the many testamonies against personal firewalls you could and can find on the web
[04:57] <albertolempira> mkquist yeap
[04:57] <xangua> naples_guy: try 'firefox-stable PPA' or 'Ubuntuzilla'
[04:57] <onezero> melanie: *apt-get it
[04:57] <mkquist> albertolempira: i use streamtuner with success to record streams, its got a button for it actually
[04:57] <dark-knight> Joshdreamland the card says dlink, although i don't believe the card to be affecting anything, because the problem is with it going to the black screen not the internet.
[04:57] <GeekSquid> LinuxHack3r1: sorry look at my posts above
[04:57] <mdik> np
[04:57] <onetinsoldier> melanie: have you tried winff?
[04:57] <onetinsoldier> !info winff
[04:58] <JoshDreamland> dark-knight: I meant your graphics card.
[04:58] <phinfinity> How do you get the drive label (for say /dev/sda1 )
[04:58] <albertolempira> mkquist hm... i think i've heard of it. Thanks i'll give it a try right away!
[04:58] <melanie> il try!!
[04:58] <mkquist> albertolempira: g/l
[04:58] <melanie> ..
[04:58] <Mechdave> mdik, I firmly believe in a layered approach to system security, one of these layers is a firewall. iptables is used on linux to provide the firewalling
[04:58] <dark-knight> joshdreamland: ummmm i have no idea, i have a dell inspiron 1100, whats the command for terminal, isn't it like Ls or something?
[04:59] <JoshDreamland> I can't tell that from terminal, really. Well, try lsmod | grep intel
[04:59] <Mechdave> mdik, I use the firewall in my dsl modem to stop any incoming traffic that has not been initiated from my network
[04:59] <JoshDreamland> if it prints intel-agp and you don't know what kind of card you have, it's fine
[04:59] <mdik> Mechdave: sure, in a corporate environment. just for your personal protection a firewall has more chances adding insecurity by bugs in the firewall itself
[04:59] <phinfinity> How do you get the drive label (for say /dev/sda1 )
[05:00] <mdik> phinfinity: ls /dev/disks/by-* ?
[05:00] <dark-knight> Joshdreamland: lsmod |grep intel pulls up nothing relevant to the graphics card
[05:00] <Cuervo> How compatible is the asus 1005pr on ubuntu? Are there any deal breaking issues?
[05:00] <JoshDreamland> dark-knight: how sure are you?
[05:00] <JoshDreamland> dark-knight: does lsmod | grep intel-agp print anything?
[05:01] <LinuxHack3r1> GeekSquid: trying now...
[05:01] <Jordan_U> Radio-b: One is probably an OEM recovery partition.
[05:01] <melanie> thank to all!
[05:01] <Mechdave> mdik, and having ran a server for quite a while and having daily penetration attempts on it. there are very few bugs in iptables that I know about and if you keep your system updated all is good
[05:02] <Davy> So...i need help
[05:02] <Jordan_U> Radio-b: "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" (where /dev/sda is the drive you want grub installed to)
[05:02] <Davy> my new update of ubuntu won't boot correctly
[05:02] <Loshki> Mechdave: I like to run behind a cheap NAT router, for added protection...
[05:02] <dark-knight> joshdreamland: pretty sure, i just looked over it again and the only thing i could see relevant is the video which it just says i915
[05:02] <phinfinity> mdik the command just gives a lot of numbers and text No labels except for 3 and i hav around 7 drives
[05:02] <Mechdave> mdik, I see having a machine without any kind of penetration protection is really bad
[05:02] <Davy> sometimes i get my desktop...but not the "applications, places, system" bar popping up
[05:03] <Davy> other times I get that bar popping up...but my desktop doesn't show up
[05:03] <Mechdave> Loshki, that is basically what I do at the moment
[05:03] <angelia> why are some people grayed out on the right and some people arent, and what does the whois button do? it seems to do nothing
[05:03] <mdik> Mechdave: when you know, what your doing: fine. if you dont know how to configure a firewall, then most likely there is no point in having one cause youre just having your box and thats it
[05:03] <dark-knight> davy: you need to run the command in terminal to start the panel when that happens.
[05:03] <LinuxHack3r1> ;
[05:03] <mdik> phinfinity: then maybe ls /dev/disks/by-id? come on, be creative
[05:03] <albertolempira> mkquist g/l? what that means? and sorry for the dumb question...
[05:03] <Gryllida> angelia, search for whois button output in network tab or in a separate one
[05:03] <Davy> dark-knight: when the applications bar pops up?
[05:03] <Loshki> Mechdave: it's cheap insurance...
[05:04] <Mechdave> Loshki, I agree whole heartedly
[05:04] <Davy> what happens if only the desktop shows up...it does that most of the time
[05:04] <naples_guy> can i UPGRADE intrepid to jaunty, then jaunty to karmic, then karmic to lucid?
[05:04] <Gryllida> naples_guy yes
[05:04] <mdik> Mechdave: there is no point in a firewall if your services are configured correctly
[05:04] <dot> that is good too
[05:04] <dark-knight> davy: didn't you just say the applications bar doesn't pop up?
[05:04] <IdleOne> angelia: the ones that are grey are "away"
[05:04] <JoshDreamland> dark-knight: if it prints anything at all when you ask for intel-agp it means it's running some sort of intel chip
[05:04] <dot> Poof!
[05:04] <red2kic> naples_guy: Meh. Do a clean installation if you can. Unless you're not technology savvy.
[05:04] <JoshDreamland> and I don't have to bother walking you through the horrible process that is NVidia setup
[05:04] <angelia> gryllida: how do I do that?
[05:05] <Davy> dark-knight: yes. the bar doesn't pop up, the desktop does...so then how do i get to the terminal screen...don't know if there is a shortcut
[05:05] <phinfinity> mdik by-id has something like "ata-ST3802110AS_4LS4VA3G-part2  scsi-SATA_ST3802110AS_4LS4VA3G-part2" and besides i have checked each drive under /dev/disks/*
[05:05] <Loshki> naples_guy: yes, but it's a lot of work, and each time you upgrade, something can go wrong. I'd rather do a from-scratch install of lucid...
[05:05] <naples_guy> red2kic, i have lots of large video files, and do not have a place to back them up atm
[05:05] <Davy> dark-knight: also what command do i need to type
[05:05] <mdik> phinfinity: looks like a label to me
[05:05] <red2kic> naples_guy: Upgrade away. :)  In fact, everybody should always have some kind of backup medium. :)
[05:05] <dark-knight> davy: yes there is a shorcut to make it pop back up, not too sure what it is for ubuntu as im on xubuntu which is xfce4-panel, google it and i guarantee you'd find it
[05:05] <naples_guy> ideally i would much rather do a fresh install, but i have a hundred gigs to save somewhere, or lose them
[05:05] <mdik> dont know, what youre about to do, though (phinfinity)
[05:06] <JoshDreamland> Davy: gnome-panel
[05:06] <Davy> okay
[05:06] <Davy> JoshDreamland: what?
[05:06] <dark-knight> joshdreamland: i just did lspci and im pretty sure this is my graphics card, this is what it printed        00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[05:06] <Gryllida> angelia, try to type /whois Gryllida in the box where you usually type to send thingsto chat; then have many clicks around until you find the line Gryllida<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:06] <JoshDreamland> Davy: It behooves you to run it from alt-f2 instead
[05:06] <Mechdave> mdik, if angelina had stuck around long enough I could have taken her through it all and got a personal firewall going for her. Now if she goes out there with no firewall and suddenly finds her machine compromised she will say "This linux is no good... I got hacked", I don't want a new user to have an adverse experience because their machine was not set up correctly for what they were doing
[05:06] <theadmin> Gryllida: " ~chatzilla@unaffiliated/unsure"
[05:06] <IdleOne> angelia: this will be a helpful read http://xchat-gnome.navi.cx/?page_id=5
[05:06] <JoshDreamland> Davy: Running gnome-panel will create the bar you're looking for
[05:06] <albertolempira> mkquist ok, i'm recording now, i think. I clicked "Record" and now a terminal windows called "streamripper" showed. It's recording i think since the size of the file is increasing but how do i stop it, and where is it saved? sorry if i'm asking too much...
[05:06] <Gryllida> angelia, that line can appear either right in the chat , or in a separate tab, just do many clicks and find
[05:06] <Mechdave> mdik, that is my vopinion
[05:06] <mkquist_> cant seem to set up windows shares anymore with 10.4
[05:07] <LinuxHack3r1> GeekSquid: Nope...it's still displaing a frame that doesn't change and it's old...not even showing anything near what my screen looks like...64bit colors
[05:07] <angelia> mechdave: I'm still here
[05:07] <UbuntuJeff> Could someone help me I have no sound and my card isn't showing up in pulse audio under hardware.
[05:07] <JoshDreamland> dark-knight: So it's a PCI-enabled intel card. Terrific.
[05:07] <phinfinity> mdik oops sorry by-label has my what i need i just remembered i have labelled only 3 drives. Thanks!!!
[05:07] <mkquist_> or share among my linux boxes either
[05:07] <JoshDreamland> oh, I lied
[05:07] <LinuxHack3r1> GeekSquid: The mouse clicks...position, sending text all works..but when the physical screen changes...android client stays the same....
[05:07] <dark-knight> joshdreamland what exactly does that mean?
[05:07] <JoshDreamland> No, that's fine
[05:07] <Davy> JoshDreamland: how do i get to gnome-panels?
[05:07] <Mechdave> angelia, ok now how are you accessing the internet? through a dsl connection?
[05:07] <JoshDreamland> Your card is integrated, as I suspected
[05:07] <angelia> gryllida thx i'll favorite it so I can read it, thank you
[05:07] <theadmin> Davy: They are a part of GNOME Desktop
[05:07] <angelia> mechdave: yes
[05:08] <JoshDreamland> It means nothing can go wrong, really.  When I move my mouse...the mouse icon on my phone moves...???
[05:08] <JoshDreamland> Lucid
[05:08] <dark-knight> joshdreamland yes i'm running xubuntu 9.10 karmic
[05:08] <JoshDreamland> That was the most rhetorical typo I've ever made. I feel unclean.
[05:08] <constarr> Anyone wanna help me with an error?
[05:08] <theadmin> JoshDreamland: :D
[05:08] <angelia> mechdave: I totally missed everything that was going on, because this is super spam and I'm not used to it yet
[05:08] <theadmin> constarr: What kind of?
[05:09] <JoshDreamland> I'm not sure what that means for this problem. It's easy to blame lucid when things stop working...
[05:09] <Gryllida> constarr, sure, just ask
[05:09] <constarr> loop: can't delete device /dev/loop0: Device or resource busy
[05:09] <constarr> *** ./create_multipartboot.sh FAILED at line 145 ***
[05:09] <phinfinity> mdik /dev/disk/by-label has a list of the labels i need. how do i know which device is which label?? i.e is a particular label /dev/sda1 or something else like that
[05:09] <dark-knight> joshdreamland hahaha well we can't blame lucid in this situation.
[05:09] <JoshDreamland> I suppose we can just blame Lucid for Karmic's problems. Haha.
[05:09] <Mechdave> angelia, no consequence, I can take you through a quick firewall setup, but first I want to make sure your dsl modem has a firewall on it
[05:09] <constarr> I'm trying to run this script
[05:09] <JoshDreamland> Has any other version of Xubuntu worked for you?
[05:09] <constarr> http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/usbinstall/13.0/
[05:09] <theadmin> constarr: It tries to use a mounted partition.
[05:09] <theadmin> constarr: And can't succeed.
[05:10]  * Tzfardaya looks around
[05:10] <angelia> mechdave: it should yeah, I mean I think it came with one, let me check
[05:10] <dark-knight> joshdreamland: haha well thanks for your help.   9.10 is the only version i've tried, and it works, just sometimes it goes black, other times it will work flawlessly, also when i leave it idle, it will freeze and produce the same black screen effect.
[05:10] <constarr> it's trying to install slackware to my usb drive, would I need to unmount it first?
[05:10] <JoshDreamland> dark-knight: I guess if we want to see what -does- work, you could try running it from with quiet3
[05:10] <mdik> phinfinity: if you do: ls -la /dev/disks/by-label it should be listed where the devices are linked to
[05:10] <Mechdave> angelia, because if your dsl modem has a firewall on it and is configured properly there is really no need to run one on the desktop as well.
[05:10] <theadmin> constarr: Huh. Well, according to this here... maybe... but slackware... We don't support that here.
[05:10] <mdik> phinfinity: or which devices those links link to, to be correct
[05:10] <JoshDreamland> dark-knight: just add quiet3 to your parameters, and change splash to nosplash
[05:11] <constarr> It's not a slackware issue, lol
[05:11] <phinfinity> mdik Thanks a lot it works!
[05:11] <angelia> mechdave: I don't know if it had a firewall, it's a qwest modem that they sent me..
[05:11] <constarr> It's the script
[05:11] <JoshDreamland> in fact, it may be changing quiet to quiet3 instead
[05:11] <theadmin> constarr: But it's a slackware script, no? ;D
[05:11] <angelia> mechdave: has*
[05:11] <mdik> phinfinity: no problemo
[05:11] <constarr> nope
[05:11] <Mechdave> angelia, what is the make and model?
[05:11] <dark-knight> joshdreamland: im not following, where is this quiet3 you speak of?
[05:11] <theadmin> Oh well, g2g.
[05:11] <angelia> mechdave: WPS PK5000 is what it says on the modem
[05:11] <JoshDreamland> dark-knight: in GRUB, before it boots, press F6 to edit the boot params. Change quiet to quiet3 and splash to nosplash.
[05:12] <JoshDreamland> It should boot in a terminal.
[05:12] <Mechdave> angelia, just a min, shall google it
[05:12] <JoshDreamland> A shell, rather, but I'm not feeling all vocabish tonight.
[05:12] <dark-knight> joshdreamland: alright what would be acheieved from booting in terminal?   what exactly would that achieve?
[05:12] <iceman21ad> any one else having issues  with  software sources  not  being accessed right
[05:12] <JoshDreamland> dark-knight: It'll show us that the OS works if it doesn't need to start graphics, for one
[05:12] <Mechdave> angelia, are you using the wireless function?
[05:13] <JoshDreamland> dark-knight: it'll also give you access to the computer, of course.
[05:13] <angelia> mechdave: well no I'm not personally using it, my 6 year old downstairs uses it on her laptop but I'm plugged in
[05:13] <dark-knight> joshdreamland: well like it said, its unpredicatable, sometimes it goes black othertimes it doesn't, so i won't really know if it took effect.
[05:13] <Loshki> JoshDreamland: what does quiet3 do?
[05:14] <roberto__> whoever suggested installing ubuntu-restricted-extras -- thank you :)
[05:14] <angelia> mechdave: it is set up if that's what you're asking
[05:14] <Mechdave> angelia, Ok, mow are you connecting to the modem via a cable?
[05:14] <angelia> mechdave: yea
[05:14] <Mechdave> angelia, right, your ISP set it up for you?
[05:14] <angelia> mechdave: I don't know what you mean by that
[05:15] <Mechdave> angelia, did your internet provider supply you with the modem?
[05:15] <angelia> mechdave: ah yeah
[05:15] <angelia> mechdave: and I didn't read it right, and I set it up
[05:16] <Mechdave> angelia, and you put in passwords and etc...
[05:16] <angelia> mechdave: yes :P
[05:16] <angelia> mechdave: my whatever it's called.. the where you can look for wireless people, I even figured out how to hide that
[05:16] <angelia> mechdave: oh right ssid I think?
[05:16] <Mechdave> angelia, does your daughter connect to the modem wireless?
[05:17] <angelia> mechdave: yea
[05:17] <profxavier> is there a channel dedicated to assistance with web design/development ?
[05:17] <profxavier> i am currently in #html and not much help there
[05:17] <Mechdave> angelia, Have you set up WEP security on the modem?
[05:17] <angelia> mechdave: yea
[05:17] <Davy> so I'm back and it didn't work...unless i did it wrong...but my panel still doesn't show up
[05:17] <albertolempira> mkquist ok, i'm recording now, i think. I clicked "Record" and now a terminal windows called "streamripper" showed. It's recording i think since the size of the file is increasing but how do i stop it, and where is it saved? sorry if i'm asking too much...
[05:17] <Mechdave> angelia, Good  :)
[05:18] <dark-knight> joshdreamland: thanks for the help, for now ill just leave it, but if it becomes a big enough problem ill follow what you said
[05:18] <AnnaZ> [06:06:47] <Mechdave> mdik, if angelina had stuck around long enough I could have taken her through it all and got a personal firewall going for her. Now if she goes out there with no firewall and suddenly finds her machine compromised she will say "This linux is no good... I got hacked", I don't want a new user to have an adverse experience because their machine was not set up correctly for what
[05:18] <angelia> mechdave: well no I was wrong
[05:18] <AnnaZ> paranoia.
[05:18] <angelia> mechdave: it says WPA/WPA2
[05:18] <JoshDreamland> well, all right
[05:18] <Davy> JoshDreamland: i did the alt-f2 thing...but my panel still hasn't shown up
[05:18] <angelia> mechdave: not WEP
[05:18] <JoshDreamland> Hey, does anyone know of a package containing Human for Lucid?
[05:18] <Mechdave> angelia, that is better than WEP
[05:18] <dark-knight> davy when you hit alt f2 and typed "gnome-panel" what happened?
[05:18] <angelia> mechdave: oh good
[05:18] <JoshDreamland> Davy: are you using xubuntu?
[05:18] <Loshki> AnnaZ: one man's paranoia is another man's prudent practice...
[05:19] <angelia> mechdave: what's the difference?
[05:19] <Davy> no...regular ubuntu
[05:19] <Davy> dark-knight: nothing
[05:19] <mdik> AnnaZ: (:
[05:19] <xangua> JoshDreamland: search human in the package manager
[05:19] <Davy> JoshDreamland: i just updated to the new 10.14 i believe
[05:19] <dark-knight> did you try going back to your desktop to see if it took effect davy? (alt-f7)
[05:20] <JoshDreamland> Davy: Of Ubuntu or Xubuntu?
[05:20] <JoshDreamland> or, heaven forbid, Kubuntu
[05:20] <angelia> mechdave: and do I need to set up this firewall? I went ahead and have it running now the firestarter on the panel, it's double protection right, so can I just keep it? or does it not make a difference?
[05:20] <Mechdave> AnnaZ, usually these days we access the internet through a NAT gateway, usually this is enough to stop the nasties, but sometimes ppl have a direct connection to the internet (like a 3G mobile dongle) and then you need a firewall
[05:20] <dark-knight> joshdreamland: he said ubuntu
[05:20] <AnnaZ> the internet side of a dsl modem is pretty good too, by the virtue of NAT routing function alone. active firewall or not.
[05:20] <JoshDreamland> Interesting...
[05:20] <Davy> lol JoshDreamland i don't think its Kubuntu...my guess would be Of Ubuntu
[05:21] <Davy> whatever the Koala thing was
[05:21] <Davy> 9.10
[05:21] <JoshDreamland> Davy: No error when you ran gnome-panel?
[05:21] <Mechdave> angelia, sounds like you may not need one, but you are quite able to set up one on your computer
[05:21] <Davy> JoshDreamland: no
[05:21] <dark-knight> davy at your desktop right click and hit terminal then type gnome-panel and tell me what happens.
[05:21] <Mechdave> angelia, should not affect anything badly
[05:21] <AnnaZ> Mechdave: or just monitor yourself for open ports once in a while -.-
[05:22] <angelia> mechdave: k i'll just leave it running I set it to hide on the panel so..
[05:22] <Davy> dark-knight: not getting an option for terminal
[05:22] <Mechdave> AnnaZ, well yeah, then if something goes wrong it is like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted
[05:22] <Davy> it says...create a new folder and crap like that
[05:23] <Mechdave> angelia, make sure you configure firestarter to only allow established and related connections. The firestarter website is pretty good at taking you through configuration for memory :)
[05:23] <angelia> mechdave: I can't just leave it at default? gah
[05:24] <Mechdave> angelia, do you have parental controls for your daughter?
[05:24] <dark-knight> davy: try right clicking then following the applications to accesories then to terminal
[05:24] <angelia> mechdave: why
[05:24] <reya276> Does anyone know if there is an application available in the repositories to mask your IP Address
[05:24] <Davy> dark-knight: then in terminal type gnome-panel?
[05:24] <Mechdave> angelia, you can leave it at default, I just don't know what the settings are
[05:24] <dark-knight> davy: yes
[05:24] <Gryllida> reya276, on IRC? or in general?
[05:24] <mkquist_> how do you  restart samba in 10.4 64bit?
[05:25] <reya276> Gryllida: in general
[05:25] <Mechdave> angelia, because there is a big nasty world on the internet and there are many things a kid should not see
[05:25] <Davy> dark-knight: i feel like a nub...but which folder is it in...or hwo do i get there
[05:25] <Mechdave> angelia, I know my daughter will be censored when she gets internet access
[05:25] <angelia> mechdave: yeah she's good, she just plays like nick at night games and disney games etc, she doesn't know how to google and stuff yet
[05:26] <Gryllida> reya276, you mean you want to connect through a proxy?
[05:26] <AnnaZ> .oO(or she doesn't tell you)
[05:26] <dark-knight> davy: you don't need to get into any folder or anything, just type gnome-panel and it should pop up
[05:26] <powertool08> mkquist_: sudo service samba restart
[05:26] <dark-knight> davy: just launch terminal and type it in
[05:26] <Mechdave> angelia, Good :)
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[05:27] <reya276> Gryllida: is that what you would use to mask an ip address
[05:27] <Davy> dark-knight: gotcha
[05:27] <dark-knight> davy: any luck?
[05:27] <Davy> it says
[05:27]  * arjOsSari_ DANCOK.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K....G.U.A.T.H.U.E.L.L.L.L.L.L.L.L.L.L.L.L.L.L.L.....J.U.E.M.B.U.O.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T....T.E.M.P.U.E.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K... %13,09KWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWK  WKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWK KWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKW
[05:27] <AnnaZ> heh my parents always knew SO LITTLE about me :D
[05:27] <mkquist_> powertool08: unrecognized service samba?
[05:27] <Davy> Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running.
[05:27] <angelia> mechdave: when she learns to read and write better, I'll be worried. Right now I just set up a bunch of i.e. links on her desktop she uses vista
[05:27] <maco> arjOsSari_: stop that
[05:28] <Davy> so...it looks like its supposed to be there
[05:28] <powertool08> mkquist_: Strange, is samba installed?
[05:28] <Davy> but just isnt showing up
[05:28] <Mechdave> angelia, sounds like you are pretty secure with WPA and a good modem with a firewall, you should be right :)
[05:28] <mkquist_> powertool08: several times... lol
[05:28] <angelia> mechdave: thank you
[05:28] <wsuthomas> I am having problem with $PATH, any ideas why is deferent  from one ssh to another http://paste.pocoo.org/show/210933/
[05:28] <Mechdave> angelia, Yeah, good stuff
[05:28] <powertool08> mkquist_: did you use sudo?
[05:28] <mkquist_> powertool08: frustrating that i cannot get shares going
[05:28] <mkquist_> powertool08: yep
[05:28] <Mechdave> angelia, No worries, any time :)
[05:28] <Davy> dark-knight: any other suggestions?
[05:28] <mdik> Mechdave: no portscanning?
[05:28] <Mechdave> mdik, Nope
[05:29] <reya276> Gryllida: there is an actual Network Proxy app install in the system, never noticed that before
[05:29] <powertool08> mkquist_: Try sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop, then same command with start
[05:29] <Davy> or ... is there anyway to redo the update
[05:29] <dark-knight> davy: hmmm nope that should pull it up if you are running just normal ubuntu. i would google your problem for further knowledge.
[05:29] <Davy> like..."down"date