[02:53] <deliverance> Is anyone trying the new Etoile Desktop Environment being plugged on Slashdot?
[02:53] <ShackJack> meta4ical_: Nope - you're issue is jsut with refresh and resolution I'm guessing --
[02:53] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: all other sound apps are off
[02:53] <exyan> IndyGunFreak: you can, at least that's how I prevent my install that's currently @ 73% from hanging ;-)
[02:53] <towlieba> IndyGunFreak, what difference does it make if i use the alternate cd
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> Etoile?.. not even heard of it.
[02:53] <ShackJack> meta4ical_: those have nothing to do with fglrx... when you get black screen do you hear the login sound?
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> exyan: lol
[02:53] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: it's too bad i can't get an inbetween version of wine and cedega
[02:53] <meoblast001> hello
[02:53] <LiberCogito> exyan: I ran WoW in wine at native speed on a VAIO with a 2.8 core 2 duo, 1 gig for ram, and an nividia 7600 OC
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> towlieba: the alternate cd is text based..(still easy, but text based)... and it will get you pass finicky hardware.
[02:54] <meoblast001> IndyGunFreak: i want to make good music but dang it, i need VST
[02:54] <exyan> LiberCogito: you got the same fps as in windows ;-)?
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> meoblast001: lol, still working on that?
[02:54] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: Cedega gives me perfect sound, and my framerate is almost the same as in windows
[02:54] <LiberCogito> Elvis85:  YOu might want to try a different version of Wine
[02:54] <meoblast001> IndyGunFreak: i gave up
[02:54] <meoblast001> anyone here use LMMS?
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> meoblast001: what program did you do that with under windows?
[02:54] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: but it crashes on certain events, making me unable to login afterwards
[02:54] <LiberCogito> exyan: I never bothered to measure it, but if it was less, I never noticed.
[02:54] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: which of course makes the game unplayable
[02:55] <meta4ical_> ShackJack: I am so lost, the xorg.conf has like 4-5 lines all with resolutions and whatnot
[02:55] <meoblast001> IndyGunFreak: FL Studio (www.fruityloops.com)
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> meoblast001: have you checked to see if wine supports it?
[02:55] <ShackJack> meta4ical_: You did not answer prior question...
[02:55] <meoblast001> IndyGunFreak: no
[02:55] <meoblast001> it doesnt
[02:55] <exyan> well my desktop pc has windows on it, not only for my parents to work easy on it, but I myself jump on it from time to time to play some games ;-)
[02:55] <dem0n> yo can some one tell me how to get the codecs to play avi
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> meoblast001: oh ok... just a thought i had.
[02:55] <ShackJack> meta4ical_: And I told you re: monitor/docs/etc...
[02:55] <unagi> windows makes me sick
[02:55] <exyan> I just don't see gaming on linux at present
[02:55] <Elvis85> hmm maybe if i compiled some version of wine from source...
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> meoblast001: well, only other thing ic an think of, is installing Windows in a virtual environment.., and using it there.
[02:55] <meta4ical_> shackjack: Oh sorry, no it doesn't get that far, i never get a chance to login
[02:56] <LiberCogito> exyab: I sadly still dual boot on my desktop, because Wine can't do City of Heroes.
[02:56] <meoblast001> IndyGunFreak: how would i do that?
[02:56] <ShackJack> meta4ical_: Yes - but do you hear login sound - it's very important...
[02:56] <unagi> although i do rather enjoy media center
[02:56] <unagi> gaming on linux would be incredible
[02:56] <unagi> i dual boot vista
[02:56] <meta4ical_> No ;p
[02:56] <exyan> LiberCogito: I got only linux on my laptop tho, coz it's not speced for gaming :) but the 7200 spins dota pretty good! :)
[02:57] <tupa> how can I create automatic Makefiles ???
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> meoblast001: i'm not really familiar with it to be truthful, only vaguely, but basically how it works, you would create a virtual appliance w/ an XP disk, then basically you boot Ubuntu, and run XP "in a window".. ,so you could load XP Virtual appliance when youu wanted to run this vts program, and close it and use Ubuntu for general purposes
[02:57] <unagi> i really dont play games on my laptop but i still keep vista on here......its got a geforce go 7400
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> !vmware | meoblast001
[02:57] <ubotu> meoblast001: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:57] <LiberCogito> exyan: I installed Linux on my laptop because its a POS and thus runs much faster with ubuntu ;)
[02:57] <exyan> unagi: gaming on linux is a fantasy for most linux users :-)
[02:57] <Elvis85> or maybe i should just go out and but a new video card, and get rid of this damn unsupported ati :p
[02:57] <exyan> LiberCogito: what is a POS?
[02:57] <unagi> only because linux better utilizes hardware........
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> meoblast001: i'v eonly used vmware to boot some other versions of linux, never tried it with windows.
[02:57] <LiberCogito> exyan: Piece of $h17
[02:57] <unagi> i mean maya runs much more smoothly on ubuntu id love to see how games would run
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> Elvis85: if you have ATI, thats your best option.
[02:58] <exyan> unagi: but linux doesn't utilize money and commercialism :-)
[02:58] <unagi> of course not
[02:58] <LiberCogito> IndyGunFreak: You can't possibly be a gamer if you believe that.
[02:58] <hvgotcodes> has avahi been breaking access to wireless networks?
[02:58] <unagi> but then i dont really understand what that has to do with the gaming companies
[02:58] <meoblast001> IndyGunFreak: well, my system came with windows, i dont have the disk
[02:58] <unagi> i mean, i would buy a game for linux
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> LiberCogito: believe what?...
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> that ati sucks?
[02:58] <unagi> but thats only because i work in the industry =)
[02:58] <LiberCogito> IndyGunFreak: NVIDIA is much better supported by most MMORPGs
[02:58] <exyan> LiberCogito: mm, well I love my laptop in spec and everything, I just didn't want it to be meant for gaming ;-)
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> meoblast001: oh ok.
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> LiberCogito: i hate ATI, i have no prob with Nvidia, even under windows, i didn't like ATI
[02:58] <unagi> nvidia is much better supported by most anything
[02:59] <unagi> i cant stand ATI
[02:59] <IndyGunFreak> LiberCogito: but you'r right, i'm not a gamer
[02:59] <Elvis85> @IndyGunFreak: it seems that no matter what i try to get this game to run better, that's what everybody keeps recommending :p
[02:59] <unagi> i bought a tv tuner card from them and i wont buy ANYTHING from ati
[02:59] <exyan> oki reboot to my own ubuntu ^^
[02:59] <unagi> im getting less and less impressed with amd too
[02:59] <LiberCogito> IndyGunFreak: Apologies, I misread what you wrote :)
[02:59] <IndyGunFreak> Elvis85: well there you go...lol
[02:59] <exyan> irrsi 4ever, peace out ;-)
[02:59] <IndyGunFreak> LiberCogito: lol, np.. its a busy channel, easy to do.
[02:59] <IndyGunFreak> unagi: I've got a PVR150, it works awesome in Linux.
[02:59] <LiberCogito> Elvis85: Go buy an Nvidia 7600
[03:00] <IndyGunFreak> unagi: only thing that doesn't work is the remote, so i have to use ivtv to change channels.
[03:00] <meoblast001> IndyGunFreak: i never tried FL Studio on Ubuntu, just Fedora and Debian
[03:00] <unagi> i have an hp tv tuner but i dont think it works with ubuntu
[03:00] <Elvis85> Asus nVidia 7600 GS SILENT 512 Mb DDR2 + DVI + TV-out
[03:00] <IndyGunFreak> meoblast001: well, my guess is, if it didn't work on Debian, it probably won't work on ubuntu
[03:00] <dem0n> Hi how do i play an avi movie
[03:01] <IndyGunFreak> !avi
[03:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:01] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: would that be the one?
[03:01] <unagi> !avi
[03:01] <unagi> phwew
[03:01] <roler> i have an old laptop running ubuntu 7.04 and the wireless card doesn't show in the applet in gnome. i have to manually configure it with /etc/network/interfaces... how can i make it so it's configurable with the gnome wireless applet?
[03:01] <IndyGunFreak> unagi: you gotta be faster...lol
[03:01] <unagi> for a second i thought the ubotu didnt work anymore
[03:01] <meta4ical_> ShackJack: could this be the problem? # DISABLED_MODULES="ath_hal fc fglrx ltm nv"
[03:01] <LiberCogito> Elvis85: I think mine is made by BFG, but you can't go wrong with ASUS... though I'd check the hardware incompatibility list first
[03:01] <unagi> lol its weird being online while out at sea
[03:01] <meoblast001> IndyGunFreak: LMMS didnt work on Debian at all, not even the non VST version
[03:01] <unagi> i work on a cruise ship, how cool am i
[03:01] <ShackJack> meta4ical_: Where is that in?
[03:01] <IndyGunFreak> meoblast001: wel, there's a chance it would work on ubuntu, but i'd say its remote.
[03:02] <meta4ical_> ShackJack:  /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[03:02] <IndyGunFreak> meoblast001: vmware though, its almost guaranteed to work, because it emulates the entire operating system, as opposed to just code.
[03:02] <unagi> anyone here use avant window navigator?
[03:02] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito ok I'll have a look, that was just the first one i found on a website of a local dealer
[03:02] <teer2> I love being able to share my computer files with people and feel like I own the software running on my computer again.
[03:02] <LiberCogito> IndyGunFreak: VMware is crap.  VirtualBox ftw.
[03:03] <LiberCogito> Elvis85: Just go to best buy or walmart :-p
[03:03] <ShackJack> meta4ical_: No -- you did not answer quesiton re: login sound... I'll assume yes you did hear it when you booted to black screen.... In which case it is a resolution/refresh issue with monitor...
[03:03] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito it's not even as expensive as I would've thought :p
[03:03] <Elvis85> lol we don't have walmart in belgium :p
[03:03] <meta4ical_> ShackJack: I said twice in a row No to that question =/
[03:03] <teer2> It's like 1980 all over again.  :)  Bye!
[03:03] <JBandP> startx gives me a no screens found error.   is this common?
[03:03] <IndyGunFreak> LiberCogito: i don't mess with it, just trying to give meoblast001 some suggestions
[03:03] <LiberCogito> Elvis85: Excuse my silly american self ;)
[03:03] <ShackJack> meta4ical_: I did not see those replies...
[03:03] <IndyGunFreak> meoblast001:  http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=7036
[03:04] <unagi> lol after using linux aand then reinstalling windows i laughed when i had to accept 3 licenses and it said 'required to use your computer'
[03:04] <LiberCogito> meoblast001:  Go with VirtualBox before VMware
[03:04] <ShackJack> !resolution | meta4ical_
[03:04] <ubotu> meta4ical_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:04] <meta4ical_> ShackJack: I wrote "no ;p" and the first time a sentence containing no
[03:04] <LiberCogito> Ugh.  Why doesn't that tooltip say ctrl alt backspace?
[03:04] <voidmage> Is there a way to tell if something is using more than one core on a dual core system?
[03:05] <LiberCogito> voidmage: System monitor?
[03:05] <ShackJack> meta4ical_: You did not address me in those responses so I missed them...
[03:05] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: that's ok I know you guys aren't really aware of what happens across the ocean ;-)
[03:05] <voidmage> is there a way in top or something?
[03:05] <unagi> voidmage most of the time both cores are being used
[03:05] <bob_sinclair> i have serious issues with 2.6.20-16-386 kernel on two installations. seems common?
[03:05] <voidmage> would it show 100% or 200% in top?
[03:05] <IndyGunFreak> meoblast001: is that the program?
[03:05] <Elvis85> seriously though i think i'll just throw away this damn ati and get a new nvidia
[03:05] <unagi> i would assume 100%
[03:05] <LiberCogito> Elvis85: Hey!  I read BBC international edition news twice a day. :-p
[03:05] <Das> Let's be vague. Give me reasons Ubuntu wont install on a computer that Windows works fine on (If you want to be less vague: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512208)
[03:06] <unagi> right now my cpu is 8% and 5%
[03:06] <Elvis85> will save myself and all the troubleshooters out there lots of time and effort :p
[03:06] <voidmage> because the program is showing 100% cpu in top, but overall only 50% cpu
[03:06] <voidmage> so i'd assume it's using only one core
[03:06] <unagi> that doesnt make sense
[03:06] <voidmage> any way to get it to use two short of rewriting it to do that?
[03:06] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: lol
[03:06] <meoblast001> virtual box?
[03:06] <IndyGunFreak> !virtualbox
[03:06] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[03:06] <voidmage> i saw it go to 101 before and i've seen other stuff like firefox hit 180%
[03:06] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: okok i just forget that belgium isn't really noticable on the map :p
[03:07] <LiberCogito> Elvis85: You have yummy chocolate?
[03:07] <LiberCogito> Das: Use the alternate install CD?
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> meoblast001: bu ti think you'd still ahve to install windows "inside" of virtual box.
[03:07] <LiberCogito> meoblast001: You would install windows in virtual box, then install your program
[03:07] <Das> LiberCogito: I've tried 3 Ubuntu ones, and 1 Kubuntu one
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> Das: that should fix the prob.
[03:08] <meta4ical_> What does the 0 mean in Section "Extensions"
[03:08] <meta4ical_> 	Option	    "Composite" "0"
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> LiberCogito: how would you install XP in virtual box, if you don't have an XP disk?
[03:08] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: and REAL beer ;-) by the way, does that nvidia 7600 tv-out work in linux?
[03:08] <meoblast001> can i just tell it where windows is?
[03:08] <LiberCogito> Das, you tried the text installer?
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> other than getting an illegal version of xp?
[03:08] <koyo001> what is the official ubuntu chat???
[03:08] <LiberCogito> Elvis85: Never tried!
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> koyo001: i'm not real sure.
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> koyo001: try /join #whatisthisanyways
[03:08] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: ok i'll see if i can find some more info on it
[03:09] <LiberCogito> Elvis85: I'm a guinness stout kinda girl.
[03:09] <gopp> how come when I am using terinmal service to a computer next to me, via ubuntu I can't  hear no sound
[03:09] <meoblast001> LliberCogito: can i tell it where windows is (the windows partition)
[03:09] <Curare_> meta4ical_, that means "false" since ATI cards do not support composite ;)
[03:09] <JBandP> how can i connect to my netwrok via the commandline?
[03:09] <Das> LiberCogito: There is a text installer? And why would that be more effective?
[03:09] <koyo001> Indy: got a quation
[03:09] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: if i'm getting a new card anyway i might as well get one that works for everything :p
[03:09] <Jimdb> I've a question regarding the fstab and mounting of linux formatted hdd.  I've used the fstab for some time to mount hard drives (sata) and to have the mounted device show up on the desktop.  But recently the mounted drives, tho they are being mounted, do not seem to show on the desktop.  I've gone back and redone mount point and ensured user rights and all, but nothing seems to work.  The devices are mounted and they are under /media/wh
[03:09] <alecw1> Hey! I just barely got another dell laptop (with ubuntu)! :) Does anybody have a suggestion for a laptop sleeve (< $15)?
[03:09] <Das> IndyGunFreak: What should fix my problem? o_O
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> Das: the text installer gets you past some glitchy hardware.
[03:09] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: brrr guinness...
[03:09] <LiberCogito> Das: Thats what the alternate CD is... and it just plain works better when there are issues.
[03:09] <DimitrisC> Is virtual box any better in performance than vmware?
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> koyo001: shoot, if i can help, i will.
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> LiberCogito: i agree, i've gotten in the habit of only using the alt. cd
[03:10] <Das> IndyGunFreak: Is that the "alternate install" cd on Kubuntu.com?
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> i've not used a live cd since dapper.
[03:10] <LiberCogito> DimitrisC: I think so, but thats just my opinion.
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> Das: yes
[03:10] <Das> I guess I'll try that
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> Das: just download the alt. install cd for feisty
[03:10] <koyo001> Indy whaere do i post something not to jam up the post if i wanna show lines from my terminal window
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> !paste | koyo001
[03:10] <ubotu> koyo001: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:10] <ShackJack> !offtopic | alecw1
[03:10] <ubotu> alecw1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:10] <alecw1> thanks. :)
[03:11] <JBandP> how can i connect eth0 to the network?
[03:11] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: hmm now that i think of it, if i convert the time i spent trying to get this ati to work into money, i could've bought myself a few of those nvidia 7600's :p
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> koyo001: did you get that?
[03:11] <JBandP> is there some eth0 start command?
[03:11] <koyo001> yeah ive used it before
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[03:11] <koyo001> just did not remember
[03:11] <CompIsMyRx> JBandP: sudo ifup eth0
[03:11] <LiberCogito> Elvis85: Heh.  Thats what happened to me with onboard sound.
[03:12] <JBandP> thats tells me interface eth0 already configured
[03:12] <JBandP> I need to connect.
[03:12] <JBandP> it's not active
[03:12] <dem0n> none of those helped
[03:12] <LiberCogito> Elvis85: Thats also why my next laptop is either a system76 or dell.  When 8 hours is a couple hundred.... its easier to buy things that just work. :)
[03:12] <dem0n> still dont work
[03:12] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: the problem is mostly that as long as you keep thinking of possible solutions, you don't wanna give up :p
[03:13] <koyo001> Indy: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31857/
[03:13] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: you got that right!
[03:13] <LiberCogito> Elvis85: Being stubborn killed the linux user?
[03:13] <koyo001> i keep getting this error and cant eliminate it
[03:13] <namit> where is it that the netboot image loads up setup screen?
[03:13] <localhost_> Anyone here have experience working with sas hard drives?
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> koyo001: use my whole name, or i'll almost definitely miss what you say and not respond.
[03:13] <namit> trying to cutomise initrd for pxe boot
[03:14] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: not quite yet, the only problem in linux so far that being stubborn didn't solve was running wow on this ati card :p
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> koyo001: you need to install the public key for a distro
[03:14] <LiberCogito> koyo001: So go get the key?
[03:14] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: i'm actually too stubborn to keep booting windows just for a game
[03:14] <nickrud> koyo001, you aren't adding that to ubuntu sources, are you?
[03:14] <xp_prg_> anyone use ardour here?
[03:15] <LiberCogito> Elvis85: I hafta for Asheron's Call because its ancient and no one supports it on linux :)
[03:15] <exyan> how do I configure my touchpad? sensitivity/acceleration etc ? :/
[03:15] <koyo001> nickrud: no
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> xp_prg_: my feet have a bad ardour coming from them...
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[03:15] <xp_prg_> oh man that is funny
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> koyo001: you might try asking in #debian, i'm not sure where you find the key
[03:15] <LiberCogito> exyan: System>Preferences>mouse
[03:16] <puppy-user-06som> what things aren't loaded in GNOME Failsafe vs normal GNOME Session ?
[03:16] <exyan> LiberCogito: that has no effect on touchpad?
[03:16] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: well maybe some day vmware or something will have better gaming drivers and you'll be able to do it that way ;)
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> puppy-user-06som: well, almost everything.. i don't think it loads a GUI.. but i could be wrong, i've never booted it to see
[03:16] <koyo001> nickrud: i did not put these but i think i copied them from a post
[03:16] <hvgotcodes> allright i just discovered i can connect to an open wireless but not a wep securing wireless network
[03:16] <LiberCogito> Elvis85: Its sadly impossible, since the virutal machine cannot access the physical machine's video card.
[03:16] <hvgotcodes> whats up with that?
[03:16] <exyan> so how do I configure my touchpad >.<
[03:16] <exyan> ?
[03:17] <ipx> How can i run something through the terminal without dedicating that terminal to the application?
[03:17] <hvgotcodes> when i connect to the unsecured there is not ethx:avahi
[03:17] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: i didn't know that, that's too bad
[03:17] <hvgotcodes> when i connect to secured (which doesnt allow me to ping) i see eth1:avahi
[03:17] <Curare_> ipx: you can add a  &  at the end of the line. this forces the process to run in the background
[03:17] <exyan> and what are the differences between beryl and compiz?
[03:17] <nickrud> koyo001, gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys A70DAF536070D3A1 && gpg --export --armorA70DAF536070D3A1 | sudo apt-key add - should clear that error
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> exyan: i've never really figured that out.
[03:18] <dem0n> Can some one please help me im trying to watch a movie with my girlfirend and its not working
[03:18] <ipx> Curare_: ah, and when i close the application in the terminal, it remains!
[03:18] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: although now i'm kinda glad i didn't pursue that as an alternative...
[03:18] <exyan> IndyGunFreak: so they're the same Oo?
[03:18] <nickrud> koyo001, a fix: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys A70DAF536070D3A1 && gpg --export --armor A70DAF536070D3A1 | sudo apt-key add -
[03:18] <eyequeue> ipx, are you looking to gnome-terminal -e foo?
[03:18] <ipx> Curare_: thanks alot
[03:18] <puppy-user-06som> IndyGunFreak:  it seams like it loads almost everything except whats causing GNOME to not load
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> exyan: i doubt they're the same
[03:18] <Curare_> np
[03:18] <LiberCogito> Elvis85: Yeah, that would have been a massive waste of time
[03:18] <exyan> well nvm, I need some configuration for my touchpad ;D
[03:18] <ipx> eyequeue: it worked with &, thanks anyways
[03:18] <dem0n> Can some one please help me im trying to watch a movie with my girlfirend and its not working
[03:18] <ticnailer69> yo
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> puppy-user-06som: that may be the case, i don't know,
[03:18] <LiberCogito> What IRC client do you all prefer?
[03:18] <exyan> if it's working, means there's a .conf for it >.<
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> xchat,
[03:18] <ShackJack> exyan: See bottom off this page - maybe help if same driver is being used...
[03:18] <ticnailer69> how can I check to see what version of linux I have?
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> !irc
[03:18] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[03:18] <eyequeue> ipx, it also had some switches to start second third etc named screens or tabs on the commandline, iirc
[03:18] <dem0n> its .avi  it say that there isnt no plugins to handle this movie
[03:18] <ShackJack> exyan: Oops _ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad?highlight=%28touchpad%29
[03:19] <ticnailer69> I mean what dist...sorry
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> !avi | dem0n
[03:19] <ubotu> dem0n: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:19] <nickrud> !touchpad | exyan
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <dem0n> i already checked that
[03:19] <dem0n> it didnt help me none
[03:19] <LiberCogito> IndyGunFreak: Yeah, I could have googled that.  That doesn't give me real people's preferences.  :-p
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> dem0n: then you did something wrong
[03:19] <eyequeue> ipx, i might not have understood your question though
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> LiberCogito: :)
[03:19] <nickrud> exyan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad?highlight=%28touchpad%29
[03:19] <dem0n> no i went to package manager and i installed the restricted formats
[03:19] <JBandP> is there an nvidia package i can install?
[03:20] <dem0n> and the gstreamed i cant even find
[03:20] <stmiller> Hey all spread the word about this Linux hardware compatibility site. Add your machine to help: http://hardware4linux.info/
[03:20] <broman> greetings !   I, of course, have a question... I use Bittornado... and I think my ISP may be throttling me (which is strange because I have their 'elite' package... or ... it could be because 'we' accidently hooked up a Hub and ran it without noticing it was not a router for aleast a day... and my roomie and I both share... any ideas ???
[03:20] <nickrud> ticnailer69, lsb_release -a
[03:20] <LiberCogito> jbandpL: Google envy nvidia
[03:20] <IndyGunFreak> dem0n: then thats why it doesn't work, the gstreamer, i think you have to add the medibuntu repo
[03:20] <ticnailer69> thanks bro
[03:20] <IndyGunFreak> * i think *
[03:20] <ShackJack> JBandP: Check out restricted drivers manager under Admin
[03:20] <ticnailer69> wel ok
[03:20] <JBandP> im at command line
[03:20] <ticnailer69> but
[03:20] <dem0n> indy can u pleas pm me?
[03:20] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: a even bigger waste of time then what i already spent on this ati card, i probably would've just thrown my computer out the window
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> dem0n: only if you're registered
[03:21] <dem0n> hmm
[03:21] <ShackJack> JBandP: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx ;)
[03:21] <dem0n> h/o
[03:21] <LiberCogito> broman: If your ISP is throttling torrents then its probably an automated filter, and trying to bypass it might violate your terms of service.... or land you in jail.  :)
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> dem0n: just type this... no quotes.. "/join #indygunfreak"
[03:21] <ShackJack> JBandP: then you have to change xorg.conf to use nvidia driver :)
[03:22] <stmiller> ktorrent can run bittorrent encrypted, can't it? then your isp won't know
[03:22] <ticnailer69> I'm on the dell website and I'm trying to install a cd-rw driver.....their descriptions show : redhat linux 8.0 and redhat 9.0 and stuff
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> dem0n: are you there?
[03:22] <JBandP> i need to download it. it is already set to nvidia. But i get an error saying failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist,0)
[03:22] <JeevesMoss> can someone help me figure out an error code on an install of server?
[03:22] <ticnailer69> so am I applicable for any of those terms
[03:22] <LiberCogito> stmiller: ISPs identify torrents by traffic type, not by the content of the data... or at least thats what they do over here in the US.
[03:22] <eyequeue> JeevesMoss, state the error here, and maybe so
[03:22] <ShackJack> JBandP: o.k. so you're installing nvidia-glx now, right?
[03:22] <koyo001> nickrud: did what you said same error
[03:22] <stmiller> LiberCogito : yuck okay. Yeah I'm in Calif
[03:23] <LiberCogito> stmiller: Traffic trends, rather.
[03:23] <JBandP> i did already.
[03:23] <nickrud> koyo001, did you get an after that command?
[03:23] <nickrud> *ok koyo001
[03:23] <ShackJack> JBandP: you should address person you're talking to so they are alerted of your responses... Use tab autocomplete for IM name...
[03:23] <JBandP> wait, i hthink i downloaded something different.
[03:23] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:24] <^^rian> Google earth cannot be run in ubuntu.. but success to installed it.. how come?
[03:24] <JeevesMoss> eyequeue: it's after a successfull install, then reboot, it gets past GRUB, then says "int 14: c1000000  err 0000002  EIP c03f3c3e CS 0000060  flags 0010006 Stack: 373c0046 000000 ffffff c0490000 000011e0 0000080 001e000 fffff80"
[03:24] <JBandP> ubuntu hates me.
[03:24] <JeevesMoss> ideas?
[03:24] <LiberCogito> ^^rian: your name is irritating to type...try running it from terminal.
[03:24] <nickrud> koyo001, my memory is defunct sometimes, did it tell you it imported: 1 ?
[03:24] <stmiller> anyone know any good Ubuntu user blogs?
[03:25] <koyo001> nickrud:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31858/
[03:25] <ShackJack> JBandP: Do update and upgrade before installing new stuff...
[03:25] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: ok it's getting late here, i'm out, thanks a lot for your help & info!
[03:25] <koyo001> nickrud: yes
[03:25] <LiberCogito> Elvis85: Welcome! Good luck!
[03:25] <eyequeue> JeevesMoss, that one is beyond me sorry, but someone else may now see it .... also have you tried feeding that string into google yet?  looks "hardwarish"
[03:25] <nickrud> koyo001, then sudo apt-get update
[03:25] <koyo001> nickrud: did that
[03:25] <Elvis85> @LiberCogito: thanks ;-)
[03:25] <nickrud> koyo001, thanks for the pastebin, it helps :)
[03:25] <lufis> stmiller: planet.ubuntu.com ?
[03:26] <gopp> !remote desktop
[03:26] <F00BaR> hi there
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <F00BaR> i have no /etc/sources.list file
[03:26] <F00BaR> what do i do
[03:26] <koyo001> nickrud: yeah did sudo apt-get update
[03:26] <JeevesMoss> eyequeue:  any ideas?
[03:26] <koyo001> nickrud: but it returns the same error
[03:26] <astro76> F00BaR, /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:26] <eyequeue> F00BaR, "man 5 sourceslist"  :-)  it's supposed to be at /etc/apt/sources.list :-)
[03:26] <F00BaR> ahh ty
[03:27] <eyequeue> JeevesMoss, outside google, none, sorry
[03:27] <koyo001> nickrud: so what do you think
[03:27] <nickrud> koyo001, odd
[03:27] <JeevesMoss> eyequeue:  thanks.
[03:27] <eyequeue> JeevesMoss, good luck
[03:27] <broman> LiberCojito: ok, yeah... well, even if I can bypass throttling (otherthan what I am doing now by changing the port range)... how can I find out for sure ?
[03:27] <korhalf> is there any good tv stream programs for ubuntu
[03:28] <gopp> !terminal service client
[03:28] <Juz_moi> I'm reading something that mentions /etc/rc.conf  I can't find it, does kubuntu use something different?
[03:28] <Noobie> Hey... I got an empty disc, downloaded the alternative installation-image, went through the installation all the way to the "Install the base system"
[03:28] <Noobie> That doesn't work...
[03:28] <gopp> !terminal service
[03:29] <koyo001> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31859/
[03:29] <nickrud> koyo001, run the part after the && again
[03:29] <ShackJack> korhalf: Check out miro - formerlly Democracy Player
[03:29] <grafe2008> can you use the ati radeon x1550 with the 3d effects?
[03:29] <grafe2008> when i try to my screen goes white
[03:29] <ShackJack> grafe2008: Yep -- you need fglrx driver - you're running under XGL?
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> !paste
[03:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:29] <Noobie> What could be wrong?
[03:30] <grafe2008> xgl? sorry, im new to linux
[03:30] <fxfitz> Does anyone know how to set up gallery2?? I did 'sudo apt-get install gallery2' but I have no idea where to like edit anything or do anything
[03:30] <koyo001> nickrud: read all of it i think youll get a better feel for it
[03:30] <ShackJack> grafe2008: You'll want to see #ubuntu-effects for deets...
[03:30] <nickrud> koyo001, I thought you said you weren't adding it to your ubuntu sources, that's a big no no, won't work, dangerous, breaks your system, need I go on?
[03:30] <gthorn> hello
[03:30] <ShackJack> grafe2008: It aint pretty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl?highlight=%28xgl%29  (actually not that hard)
[03:30] <kaiki> hello gthorn
[03:31] <JBandP> is there something i can do to config ubuntu to load when the computer boots?
[03:31] <broman> !gallery2
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gallery2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <Noobie> Anyone?
[03:31] <koyo001> nickrud: i told you i copy pasted a list and thats  what i have
[03:31] <gthorn> is it possable to have 2 computers connect through 56k cards?
[03:31] <koyo001> nickrud: how do i remove it
[03:31] <sotec_prod> What is the command to find out what all of my harddrives are labeled as? i.e. 'hdb1, hda1, etc?'
[03:31] <nickrud> koyo001, gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list and remove any line that has debian in it.
[03:32] <stmiller> anyone know how you create a dock like in this pic: http://www.venturecake.com/images/gimp%20new%20ui%20single%20window.png
[03:32] <astro76> sotec_prod, df -h is one way
[03:32] <JBandP> Im getting an (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernal module error.  is there a fix for this?
[03:32] <Tanman> Flannel: are you there?
[03:32] <B123> stmiller
[03:32] <B123> i know how 1 min let me pull up the stats.
[03:32] <sotec_prod> how about the unmounted ones?
[03:32] <sotec_prod> i just put in a slave
[03:33] <sotec_prod> i need to wipe it
[03:33] <stmiller> B123 great thanks
[03:33] <sotec_prod> but i need the /hda1 or whatever to point dd to it
[03:33] <nickrud> koyo001, um, I was so hot on the trail, I missed an entire word:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:33] <ShackJack> stmiller: That Avant Dock or something - available in Trevinho repos...
[03:33] <Tanman> Flannel: i solved that little issue of mine with the ssh problem that i was having
[03:33] <stmiller> ShackJack Avant Dock? Okay thanks I'll check it out
[03:33] <B123> Stmiller: Run: "gconf-editor"
[03:33] <B123> There navigate to apps/avant-windows-navigator/bar
[03:33] <B123> Change the value for bar_angle to "45", and Icon-offset to "18"
[03:33] <koyo001> nickrud: lol
[03:34] <ShackJack> stmiller: What B123 said ;)
[03:34] <sotec_prod> Anyone know? I'm on a time schedule unfortunately
[03:34] <exyan> lol, ubuntu's update manager even updates the kernel Oo?
[03:34] <ShackJack> B123: He doesn't have it yet :)
[03:34] <tyoc> Hey people, there exist an exact tool that can say me wich applications are ussing the eth0 connection?
[03:34] <tyoc> or using the web?
[03:34] <nickrud> sotec_prod, sudo fdisk -l
[03:34] <B123> oh! you need avant! well go to getdeb.net and download it!
[03:34] <sotec_prod> thanks nick
[03:34] <B123> then do what i said =)
[03:34] <DimitrisC> Virtualbox says that users should be member of the vboxusers group. How can I put my account as a member of that group?
[03:34] <broman> !irc
[03:34] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[03:34] <Frogzoo_> sotec_prod: you sure it's not /dev/sda# on feisty?
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu feisty can't access tty: job control turned off   tried all of the command line options with the same result..  Dapper works fine...
[03:35] <sotec_prod> i'm sure. /sda's are usually reserved for usb or external devices
[03:35] <astro76> sotec_prod, not in feisty
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> serial ata as well
[03:35] <sotec_prod> thanks, it's /hdb1/2/5/6
[03:36] <B123> I wish that 7.10 would come out sooner =/
[03:36] <meoblast001> how does one unmount
[03:36] <B123> unmount command =)
[03:36] <Curare_> umount MOUNTPOINT
[03:36] <Curare_> good night ;)
[03:36] <meoblast001> bash: unmount: command not found
[03:37] <Curare_> meoblast001, try without the N
[03:37] <Noobie> I need help with an installation.
[03:37] <nickrud> meoblast001, no firs n
[03:37] <Curare_> umount not unmount
[03:37] <B123> opps.
[03:37] <Catoptromancy_> is there a way to force the CD to eject?
[03:37] <B123> yeah its umount. sorry i was reading what you said and typing at the same time heh
[03:37] <MacDrunk> hello all
[03:37] <meoblast001> man its "not mounted"
[03:38] <MacDrunk> can someone told me how to install windows on a linux machine
[03:38] <nickrud> Catoptromancy_, eject, sudo eject, unbent paper clip
[03:38] <MacDrunk> or what to do ?
[03:38] <Noobie> "An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Install the base system"
[03:38] <B123> Can someone tell me how major updates work on ubuntu?
[03:38] <B123> MacDrunk, Use VMware Server.
[03:38] <MacDrunk> vmware
[03:38] <MacDrunk> ???
[03:38] <MacDrunk> were to find it?
[03:38] <B123> VMware server.
[03:38] <B123> Synaptic!
[03:38] <koyo001> nickrud: we all good now
[03:39] <B123> should have it. it shows up under mine, and i have 7.04
[03:39] <frogzoo> nickrud: it's a bit tedious until you discover the blkid command
[03:39] <B123> It's very easy to set up after that, so you should get it.
[03:39] <MacDrunk> so i dont need lilo
[03:39] <nickrud> koyo001, good, you are actually lucky it didn't work :)
[03:39] <ari_stress> !beagle
[03:39] <ubotu> Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[03:39] <DimitrisC> MacDrunk: Or just sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[03:39] <koyo001> nickrud: now back to original problem webcam drivers or a program
[03:39] <MacDrunk> i want a dual boot
[03:39] <B123> oh you want to
[03:39] <B123> dual boot.
[03:39] <ant-> !dualboot | MacDrunk
[03:39] <ubotu> MacDrunk: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[03:39] <MacDrunk> yup
[03:39] <B123> your have to do a partition then.
[03:39] <nickrud> frogzoo, yeah, I've found that and dev/disk/by-* (I do kinda like that)
[03:40] <B123> That's a little more work, and it will have to do with messing with GRUB, im not your man for that one.
[03:40] <ShackJack> B123: You should address the ppl you are replying to so they are alerted of your response --- tab autocomplete for IM handles :)
[03:40] <ari_stress> hi all, anyone running beagle? is a cpu hog?
[03:40] <Kyahx> Anyone around that could help me get TwinView working the way I expect it to ?
[03:40] <B123> how do i adress people =/
[03:40] <MacDrunk> would be a problemo if i have linux as my first OS
[03:40] <nickrud> B123, use their nick
[03:40] <koyo001> nickrud: what if other programs downloaded from the debian archives
[03:40] <ari_stress> Kyahx: what notebook you are using
[03:40] <Kyahx> Right now a full screen app (wine) either takes up the full span of both moniters, or it will fill my main moniter and shut the other off
[03:40] <astro76> ari_stress, I have heard so
[03:40] <Kyahx> Nvidia GF 6800
[03:41] <ShackJack> B123: Put there name at the front of your reply -- their IM will alert them if they're not looking at the convo stream.... Start to type name and tap tab to autocomplete...
[03:41] <ant-> MacDrunk, you usually want to install windows before linux, read !dualboot
[03:41] <ari_stress> Kyahx: http://linux2.arinet.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=155&Itemid=35
[03:41] <yellow_chicken> i am in nautilus in a particular folder, is there a way to execute xterm in nautilus, so that my xterm is default to that particular folder?
[03:42] <hajhouse> what could cause they keyboard to stop working mostly in X, so that you can't type anything into any X application? i'm trying to figure out why this happened to a friend who is using kubuntu 7.04
[03:42] <Kyahx> ari_stress: its not a notebook setup.  Its a desktop with two moniters.  I don't want to clone the screens
[03:42] <nickrud> koyo001, I'd remove them, personally. If you don't know or remember what all was installed, synaptic has a button on the lower left called Status, and it'll put up a list on the upper left. Look at Installed(local or obsolete)
[03:42] <MacDrunk> ant
[03:42] <astro76> yellow_chicken, install nautilus-open-terminal
[03:43] <B123> ShackJack like this?
[03:43] <MacDrunk> im reading and it says linux wont support nfts file sistem
[03:43] <ShackJack> B123: atta boy ;)
[03:43] <yellow_chicken> astro76: thanks
[03:43] <ShackJack> B123: I was not looking at IM but it "beeped" me cause my name was said ;)
[03:43] <astro76> MacDrunk, it supports reading by default and write support can be added, works perfectly
[03:43] <astro76> !ntfs-3g | MacDrunk
[03:43] <ubotu> MacDrunk: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:44] <B123> NTFS on linux is a little bit of a pain.
[03:44] <yellow_chicken> why are these so much errors when i open kwrite? http://rafb.net/p/zXNoly14.html
[03:44] <avis> if i wanted better quality than onboard 965G audio what audio card would i look at that is supported in feisty ?
[03:44] <stmiller> Does the Gparted Live CD resize ext3 non-destructively? Or am I crazy to try that?
[03:45] <ShackJack> B123: Eh, it's flawless! (NTFS)
[03:45] <B123> How unstable is the new 7.10?
[03:45] <B123> ShackJack I know lol but not as flawless as FAT32!
[03:45] <Kyahx> Anyone else have experience with Nvidia's TwinView setup?
[03:45] <astro76> B123, pretty unstable until it is released in October
[03:45] <ShackJack> B123: I'm running it and haven't had any mjor issues...
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> Kyahx: i've got twinview set up
[03:46] <B123> astro76 alright, Im sticking with 7.04!
[03:46] <ShackJack> astro76: Been running for a month now :) No big issues...
[03:46] <B123> ShackJack I know but its still not AS easy =)
[03:46] <hajhouse> B123: no real stable. it should be mostly stable by late September
[03:46] <nickrud> B123, if past experience is anything to go by, wait till late august, when what normal people call 'major issues' will be cleared up, mostly
[03:46] <Kyahx> IndyGunFreak: I've got it working for my desktop fine, my problem is gaming (wine).  WoW wants to take up either both screens, or shut off my right moniter
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> Kyahx: good luck..
[03:46] <ShackJack> I don't have any stability problems whatsoever with 7.10 :)
[03:46] <yellow_chicken> astro76: i just installed open-terminal, how do i use it?
[03:46] <Kyahx> lol
[03:47] <Kyahx> that's promising
[03:47] <acidx> Kyahx, use a wine desktop window. (run winecfg and choose that somewhere.)
[03:47] <MacDrunk> well what if ubuntu is already installed and i didnt partition my hard drive to do a windows xp installation afterwards
[03:47] <astro76> yellow_chicken, right click on a folder, or the empty space in a folder, and click Open Terminal
[03:47] <nickrud> MacDrunk, we'd call that a successful installation
[03:47] <Kyahx> acidx: I was hoping to avoid windowed mode, but if that's all I can do oh well I guess
[03:47] <acidx> Kyahx, you want "emulate a virtual desktop" inside "graphics" tab.
[03:48] <killown> where I found tcl-dev?
[03:48] <killown> apt-get dont give it for me
[03:48] <F00BaR> how do i make ssh colourful
[03:48] <yellow_chicken> astro76: it's not in the list, reboot?
[03:48] <B123> nickrud Yeah im going to wait.
[03:48] <astro76> !info tcl8.4-dev | killown
[03:48] <ubotu> killown: tcl8.4-dev: Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 8.4.14-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 751 kB, installed size 2276 kB
[03:49] <MacDrunk> ok i have ubuntu installed and i didnt partition my hd to have windows installation afterwards now i need windows to run some programs what should i do to install it whit out unistall ubuntu
[03:49] <acidx> kill: tcl8.4-dev
[03:49] <killown> astro76 nope
[03:49] <killown> tcl-dev only
[03:49] <yellow_chicken> astro76: yes, i found on google. reboot needed
[03:49] <MacDrunk> do i use the boot menu on windows or lilo
[03:49] <killown> tcl8 not works
[03:49] <B123> MacDrunk have you tried Wine? or Crossover Office?
[03:49] <nickrud> MacDrunk, you can run the live cd, and use gparted to reduce the size of the ubuntu partition to make room for windows
[03:49] <astro76> yellow_chicken, could probably just restart X (ctrl+alt+backspace)...
[03:49] <MacDrunk> ok
[03:49] <F00BaR> Does anyone know how to make SSH Coulorful>
[03:50] <B123> FOOBaR coulorful?
[03:50] <astro76> !info tcl-dev | killown
[03:50] <MacDrunk> nickruf then i install windows right
[03:50] <ubotu> killown: Package tcl-dev does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:50] <bruenig> F00BaR, does it not inherit the color settings of the user you are logged in under?
[03:50] <nickrud> F00BaR, you can copy your .bashrc over to the machine you ssh to
[03:50] <B123> F00BaR Why dont you use VNC if you need something that will show you the Desktop?
[03:51] <astro76> killown, it appears only 8.3 and 8.4 are packaged in ubuntu
[03:51] <killown> ok
[03:51] <F00BaR> B123 i dont need remote desktop, just a coulorful ssh
[03:51] <MacDrunk> nickrud do i need to reboot and use the live cd?
[03:51] <F00BaR> insteal of dull black + white
[03:51] <B123> F00BaR Alright, sorry.
[03:51] <F00BaR> say red + blue
[03:52] <nickrud> MacDrunk, yes, you can alter partitions only on a drive that isn't mounted
[03:52] <F00BaR> Thanks anyway B123
[03:52] <B123> Does anyone use Transmission?
[03:52] <MacDrunk> ok so i boot from the live cd and then make the repartition on the linux partition so i make room for windows right
[03:53] <MacDrunk> then i do the full install of windows xp
[03:53] <bruenig> B123, did very shortly and then stopped
[03:54] <astro76> MacDrunk, yes then after that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:54] <hvgotcodes> hey i have terminus fonts installed, but cant see them from gnome terminal -- any advice?
[03:54] <allbert> os[Linux 2.6.22-8-generic i686]  distro[Debian lenny/sid]  cpu[1 x Pentium III (Coppermine) @ 798MHz]  mem[Physical : 249MB, 50.9% free]  disk[Total : 15.34GB, 22.70% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] ]  sound[]
[03:54] <imikke> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 7.04 and using the WUSB54G (by linksys) network card. About every 10-15 mins. the connection drops. I am not experincing the problem on any of my other PCs in the house. Any ideas?
[03:55] <meoblast001> woooo hooo a successful build of something i already have
[03:55] <allbert> congrats!!!
[03:55] <meoblast001> now i have 2 copies of bash
[03:55] <meoblast001> thats probably not good
[03:56] <JBandP> how do i install the linux-restricted-modules ?
[03:56] <exyan> what's wrong with gnome that comes with ubuntu, can't install any themes Oo
[03:56] <B123> bruenig why?
[03:56] <bcbooter> yes, i got suspend to ram to work
[03:56] <meoblast001> how do i add the ability to make deb's to compiling?
[03:56] <broman> imikke: ... so am I... but I dont know the cause yet..
[03:57] <imikke> broman , are you using the same network adapter?
[03:57] <levander> imikke: Maybe there's some idle timeout in how the network connection is configured?  That's just a guess.
[03:57] <Stuart_99> hey everyone...got a bit of a problem.  In addition to my forum problem, I tried to run Ubuntu on my Dell XPS M1210.  It worked :), but my wifi will NOT work.   What do I have to do to get it operational?  I'm using the wired connection on the livecd to get on IRC.  Thanks for your time.
[03:57] <broman> imikke: no... but I think its my ISP...
[03:57] <broman> imikke:  ATT
[03:57] <imikke> I have a 2wire gateway router, but I don't think it's the problem either
[03:58] <imikke> I also have at&t
[03:58] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless
[03:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:58] <exyan> so how do u install themes for gnome :/? I just drop the tar.gz but it says wrong fil
[03:58] <exyan> e
[03:58] <IndyGunFreak> !themes
[03:58] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:58] <levander> Stuart_99: wifi cards last I heard is one of those areas Linux support is not so great.  I think people have to play around with something called ndiswrapper to get them to work if they don't work out of the box.
[03:58] <malocite_> does ubunto close all ports by default?
[03:58] <malocite_>  I am trying to make any kind of connection to either of my two ubuntu boxes but I keep getting connection refused
[03:58] <exyan> !changethemes
[03:58] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[03:59] <broman> imikke: I am just running straight out of their dsl modem for now...
[03:59] <Stuart_99> Ok, which driver do I need to use in conjunction with ndiswrapper?
[03:59] <imikke> right now I'm on vista, but i'm not being disconnected
[03:59] <dem0n> indy come back
[03:59] <exyan> IndyGunFreak: it says wrong file >.<
[03:59] <broman> imikke: .... and it only started recently doing that...
[03:59] <dem0n> sorry i was afk
[03:59] <bcbooter> whats the best place to get themes for ubuntu?
[03:59] <imikke> same here
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> exyan: wrong file?
[03:59] <dem0n> i am doing laundry in an apartment shit comes up missing
[03:59] <Stuart_99> Could I find it on my windows partition?
[03:59] <ziroday> Stuart_99: your windows driver .inf file
[03:59] <exyan> IndyGunFreak: yes...
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> exyan: what are you talking about?
[04:00] <astro76> Stuart_99, what kind of card is it? check with lspci
[04:00] <dem0n> indygunfreak: come back i am doing laundry in an apartment shit comes up missing
[04:00] <exyan> IndyGunFreak: the themes, if I install one it just gives me "the file format is invalid"
[04:00] <imikke> broman, on this page it said the default drivers may not work in all cases https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Linksys_WUSB54Gv4?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[04:00] <IndyGunFreak> dem0n: all you had to do was tell me, i'd have waited...
[04:00] <imikke> So we may have to use ndiswrapper.
[04:00] <Stuart_99> Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 1)
[04:00] <broman> imikke: do you use torrent clients ?
[04:00] <IndyGunFreak> exyan: hold on a minute, let me get dem0n going
[04:00] <imikke> no I do not, broman
[04:01] <ziroday> imikke: i have that card, you should definitly use ndiswrapper
[04:01] <imikke> is it easy to configure NDISwrapper?
[04:01] <astro76> Stuart_99, ok that should work with the opensource driver, install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[04:01] <rockets> Whats the name of the dock application that mimics the one in OSX Leopard
[04:01] <ziroday> imikke: i used ndisgtk and System > Admin > Network
[04:02] <imikke> oh, let me try that
[04:02] <ziroday> rockets: avant-window-navigator
[04:02] <ziroday> rockets: is one of them
[04:02] <rockets> ok
[04:02] <g2g591> is there anyway to make a logical partation bigger???
[04:02] <rockets> ziroday, not in the repositories
[04:02] <ziroday> rockets: you should add trevino eyecandy repos
[04:03] <broman> imikke: ... hmmm... I do, and I thought I was being throttled... I have seen articles that say ATT is trying some new experiments... I am seriously considering cable soon...
[04:03] <g2g591> even when theres free space in the extended partation, it doesnt let me in gparted
[04:03] <ziroday> rockets: they have the latest version ther
[04:03] <rockets> ziroday, THANKS!
[04:03] <ziroday> rockets: np :)
[04:03] <rockets> ziroday, this one? http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/feisty/eyecandy/
[04:03] <ziroday> yeah
[04:03] <imikke> broman, but it's not happening to my windows or mac computers, only my ubuntu installation.
[04:03] <rockets> ziroday, wait, does avant work without compiz
[04:03] <imikke> so I doubt it's at&t.
[04:03] <rockets> i dont want compiz or beryl
[04:04] <koyo001> need help installing webcam
[04:04] <ziroday> rockets: no you have to have either
[04:04] <Stuart_99> is bcm43xx-fwcutter available on sourceforge or in the package manager?
[04:04] <mrsno> both Stuart_99
[04:04] <rockets> ziroday, I HAVE to?
[04:04] <koyo001> can someone point me in the right dirrection
[04:04] <rockets> or dont have to
[04:04] <ziroday> Stuart_99: in the repos
[04:04] <Stuart_99> I'll check the repos first, thanks
[04:04] <broman> imikke: thanks for that info...
[04:04] <ziroday> rockets: yes, you could also  try kiba dock (not sure) or engage dock
[04:04] <levander> How come none of the theme screenshots are coming down on themes.freshmeat.net?
[04:05] <gravemind> hi, I thought Java 5 was the latest for amd64, but the java website makes it seem like Java 6 is also for 64. Does anyone know for sure?
[04:05] <Stuart_99> 0 packages listed in the repos
[04:05] <levander> gravemind: Is it possible that Ubuntu just only has a package for Java 5?
[04:05] <ThatLazyGuy> how come i cant see to watch rmvb movies with MPlayer in fullscreen
[04:05] <imikke> and ...does anyone know the easiest way to move many files and folders to the /var/www/ directory?
[04:05] <Stuart_99> Could I be searching wrong?
[04:05] <nickrud> gravemind, you can find what's available with ubuntu at packages.ubuntu.com
[04:05] <gravemind> thanks
[04:06] <ziroday> Stuart_99: look for broadcom
[04:06] <pawan> hi
[04:06] <Matir> can anyone recommend a good backup utility for workstation backup to DVDs?  I'd like something that can manage a large collection, as my only backup strategy right now is rsync to an external drive...
[04:06] <nickrud> imikke, mv ?
[04:06] <pawan> wanted nvidia drivers
[04:06] <Maranar> I need help getting my wireless adapter recognized.
[04:06] <imikke> but what if there's many files to move?
[04:06] <Stuart_99> ok...searching now
[04:06] <ziroday> Matir: backuppc
[04:06] <astro76> !info bcm43xx-fwcutter | Stuart_99
[04:06] <ubotu> stuart_99: bcm43xx-fwcutter: Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:006-1 (feisty), package size 24 kB, installed size 116 kB
[04:06] <koyo001> does anyone know how to install a logitech camera
[04:07] <nickrud> imikke, mv /path/to/dir/* /var/www?
[04:07] <pawan> i have geforce fx 5200 graphics card
[04:07] <Matir> ziroday, thanks, i'll look at it
[04:07] <IndyGunFreak> pawan: the dual screen one?
[04:07] <pawan> yes
[04:07] <g2g591> for some reason i cant seem to make my logical partation bigger even though there is free space in the extended partation
[04:07] <Stuart_99> It's not showing up in my searches...
[04:07] <imikke> ok, thank you nickrud
[04:07] <ziroday> pawan: use restricted driver manager
[04:07] <Quinton_> what keys saves and restarts under the x server configuration?
[04:07] <levander> What's the default window manager in Ubuntu?
[04:07] <ziroday> Stuart_99: do you have all repos enabled?
[04:07] <ziroday> levander: gnome
[04:08] <nickrud> imikke, and you can combine /path/to/dir/* /path/to/second/dir/* ... /path/to/nth/dir /var/www
[04:08] <levander> ziroday: That's a desktop environment, I need the window manager.
[04:08] <Stuart_99> whatever the default is...how do I check?
[04:08] <Nooobie> I'm getting: "ta3.00: exception emask 0*0sact 0*0 serr 0*0 action 0*0" when I'm starting up my newly installed Ubuntu-machine...
[04:08] <ziroday> levander: sorry metacity
[04:08] <Nooobie> What could this be?
[04:08] <levander> ziroday: thanks
[04:08] <pawan> restricted driver managment is saying not in use
[04:08] <pawan> i have enabled it
[04:08] <Quinton_> what keys saves and restarts under the x server configuration?
[04:08] <imikke> ty
[04:08] <roadkill> how do i add mp3 codec to rythembox again i forget
[04:08] <g2g591> for some reason i cant seem to make my logical partation bigger even though there is free space in the extended partation
[04:08] <levander> Are theme screenshots always this slow to come down on themes.freshmeat.net?
[04:08] <nickrud> Quinton_, that question isn't very clear?
[04:09] <IndyGunFreak> pawan: so whats the prob?
[04:09] <ziroday> pawan: do you have intergrated intel cards as well as your nvidia card?
[04:09] <levander> http://themes.freshmeat.net/screenshots/35865/38091/
[04:09] <pawan> no
[04:09] <Stuart_99> how do I check to make sure I have all repos enabled?
[04:09] <ziroday> pawan: run nvidia xconfig
[04:09] <pawan> i am not getting high resolution
[04:09] <IndyGunFreak> pawan: whats the issue?
[04:09] <IndyGunFreak> oh,
[04:09] <ziroday> pawan: or somewthing like that
[04:09] <levander> Stuart_99: look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:09] <Quinton_> nickrud: under the x server config i edited files and i need to know the buttons to hit to save/restart my computer
[04:09] <pawan> Reconfiguring X.org video drivers is not possible: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is invalid or does not exist
[04:09] <levander> Stuart_99: there's probably a GUI way to check in synaptic
[04:09] <ziroday> Stuart_99: im finding out for you know thru synaptic
[04:09] <scottDkoDer> How do you change your desktop back groud if you get nothing when right clicking on your desktop?
[04:10] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:10] <nickrud> Stuart_99, applications->add/remove->preferences
[04:10] <piedoggie> looking for good lvms gui tool
[04:10] <IndyGunFreak> if xorg.conf doesn't exist, you have issues.
[04:10] <ziroday> Stuart_99: Synaptic > Settings > Repos
[04:10] <piedoggie> the evm tool locked up on my *again*
[04:10] <ziroday> pawan: run sudo in front of it
[04:11] <Stuart_99> Ok...I think I enabled all of the sources...running the manager again...
[04:11] <Quinton_> under the x server config i edited files and i need to know the buttons to hit to save/restart my computer
[04:11] <nickrud> Quinton_, you'd save the file from the editor, then log out, hit ctl-alt-backspace (restarts X server), and log back in.
[04:11] <Truman_> Hey, I'm having a bit of trouble getting the restricted driver installed; all I should have to do is download nVidia's driver, install that, apt-get the nvidia-glx-new (that's what my card needs), then enable the restricted driver... right?
[04:11] <blackace11> hello i am having troubles mounting an iso file...
[04:11] <ziroday> Truman_: no just tick the checkbox
[04:11] <g2g591> just enable the restricted driver
[04:11] <Quinton_> nickrud: i need to know the save keys for it under recovery mode
[04:11] <pawan> nvidia command not found
[04:11] <nickrud> Quinton_, ah! :wq
[04:11] <Truman_> ziroday: ticking the checkbox doesn't seem to work
[04:11] <g2g591> hey!!for some reason i cant seem to make my logical partation bigger even though there is free space in the extended partation
[04:12] <piedoggie> blackace11:  did you use -i ISO????
[04:12] <piedoggie> -t
[04:12] <ziroday> pawan please just run sudo nvidia xconfig
[04:12] <piedoggie>  not -i
[04:12] <stevarino> hi all, having a slight problem... alsa suddenly stopped working - no sound... tried reinstalling alsa but still nothing
[04:12] <ziroday> Truman_: what card?
[04:12] <Stuart_99> 0 packages available, and I made sure all sources are enabled
[04:12] <Quinton_> nickrud: do you know them?
[04:12] <blackace11> piedoggie: no how?
[04:12] <Truman_> ziroday: GeForce 8800gt
[04:12] <nickrud> Quinton_, you might need to hit escape a time or two. then :wq
[04:12] <pawan> pawan@pawan-desktop:~$ sudo nvidia xconfig
[04:12] <pawan> sudo: nvidia: command not found
[04:12] <pawan> pawan@pawan-desktop:~$
[04:13] <ant-> nvidia-xconfig
[04:13] <nickrud> pawan, put a dash in there
[04:13] <ziroday> Truman_: well then you try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new. and it will automatically install
[04:13] <Quinton_> nickrud: under recovery mode there is a crtl or alt and another key needs to be pressed
[04:13] <Truman_> ziroday: In addition, when I tick the box for the restricted driver, it looks like it installs the nvidia-glx package instead of the -new
[04:13] <piedoggie> see man mount and search for is09660
[04:13] <ziroday> Truman_: either one works
[04:13] <Quinton_> nickrud: to save the x server config
[04:13] <piedoggie> I can't type rot s*** toda
[04:13] <ziroday> !info broadcom
[04:13] <ubotu> Package broadcom does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:13] <nickrud> Quinton_, are there any command help hints at the bottom of the screen?
[04:14] <ant-> !bcm43xx
[04:14] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[04:14] <Truman_> ziroday: ..then why do they have the -new one?
[04:14] <piedoggie> man mount and lookk for iso9660
[04:14] <pawan> pawan@pawan-desktop:~$ sudo nvidia-xconfig
[04:14] <pawan> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[04:14] <pawan> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[04:14] <Quinton_> nickrud: its obvious i just need the keys to save the config i changed
[04:14] <Stuart_99> thanks...checking it out now
[04:14] <g2g591> for some reason i cant seem to make my logical partation bigger even though there is free space in the extended partation.....
[04:14] <nickrud> Quinton_, depends on what editor you're using. Top left of the screen: does it say gnu nano?
[04:14] <ziroday> Truman_: because both versions work, the new one is just slightly beter
[04:15] <Quinton_> nickrud: it is nano
[04:15] <Truman_> ziroday: I gotcha; well either way I try it, whenever it reboots it gives me an error about kernal mismatch or something along those lines
[04:15] <nickrud> Quinton_, then like it says at the bottom, ctl-X Exit
[04:15] <scottDkoDer> How do you change your desktop back groud if you get nothing when right clicking on your desktop?
[04:15] <ziroday> Truman_: well if thats happening try envy
[04:15] <Quinton_> nickrud: what save?
[04:15] <scottDkoDer> How do you change your desktop background if you get nothing when right clicking on your desktop?
[04:15] <pawan> how to bring the card in use
[04:15] <Quinton_> nickrud: saves*
[04:15] <pawan> it is enabled
[04:15] <nickrud> Quinton_, it'll ask you if you want to save
[04:15] <Truman_> scottDkoDer: System>Settings>Desktop Background
[04:15] <ziroday> Truman_: which is a autoscript to install the nvidia drivers
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> ziroday: Bad idea
[04:16] <ant-> scottDkoDer, gnome-background-properties
[04:16] <g2g591> @scott:system/preferences/change desktop background
[04:16] <nickrud> Quinton_, or, you can ctl-o writeout
[04:16] <piedoggie> g2g591: you can make your logical partition larger but until you resize your filesystem, you shouldn't see any difference
[04:16] <intelikey> someone here using ntfs-3g mounting through fstab,    whats the "driver" name in fstab ?
[04:16] <scottDkoDer> thx
[04:16] <scottDkoDer> thx
[04:16] <ant-> np
[04:16] <Truman_> ziroday: Ah, yeah; I forgot about that
[04:16] <nickrud> intelikey, ntfs-3g ?
[04:16] <ant-> ziroday, envy
[04:16] <Quinton_> nickrud: is there crtl-f5 or something like that?
[04:16] <g2g591> hold on,
[04:16] <nickrud> Quinton_, no, this is not windows
[04:16] <intelikey> nickrud yes is that the name that you put in fstab ?
[04:17] <nickrud> intelikey, yes
[04:17] <ziroday> Jack_Sparrow: why?
[04:17] <piedoggie> so, any suggestions for LVMS management through GUI?
[04:17] <intelikey> nickrud thank you.
[04:17] <nickrud> intelikey, yw
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[04:17] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[04:17] <ziroday> Truman_: heres the site http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[04:18] <Truman_> ziroday: Thanks, I'll check it out
[04:18] <ziroday> Jack_Sparrow: or it could fix your machine really well
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[04:18] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:18] <yow|5570> can someone help me with samba? I can't get my shares to mount after reboot from fstab
[04:18] <ziroday> Jack_Sparrow: have you ever used envy?
[04:18] <ziroday> Jack_Sparrow: i know how to call up the bot thank you :)
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ziroday: Envy and automatix are both terrible programs.. yes, tested both...
[04:18] <kersinc> #ubuntu-es
[04:18] <nickrud> ziroday, Jack_Sparrow doesn't need any help, but we've seen way too many people come crying here after using envy.
[04:19] <Davy_Jones> also alien
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> true
[04:19] <ziroday> nickrud: odd, cause ive helped quite a few people with envy, espically when they get kernel mismatches after installing nvidia-glx
[04:20] <nickrud> ziroday, I've seen many scripts come and go, early automatix and easyubuntu (had high hopes for that one) and it's sucks when it goes bad and it's time for remote troubleshooting
[04:21] <nickrud> alien is a monster that eats your entrails
[04:21] <bcbooter> udshfudshfudsa
[04:21] <ziroday> nickrud: yeah lol, that one i agree
[04:21] <Stuart_99> :).  My wifi card can now see other networks :)
[04:21] <Truman_> Well, time to restart and see if I'm one of the lucky few that envy helps ; )
[04:21] <Stuart_99> I'm going to attempt connecting to my WPA2 enabled wireless router
[04:21] <Truman_> I'll come back crying in a minute, otherwise
[04:21] <nickrud> Truman_, better than half have success, I hear
[04:22] <summer_s4> does anyone know how to dual boot windows xp and ubuntu fiesty fox?
[04:22] <Truman_> nickrud: Thanks, that makes me feel better
[04:22] <rockets> summer_s4, install windows first, then ubuntu feisty fawn
[04:22] <rockets> summer_s4, leave free space after you install windows
[04:22] <tom33> i installed the application fglrx
[04:22] <tom33> and the desktop effects
[04:22] <tom33> were off
[04:22] <tom33> how can i turn it on?
[04:22] <summer_s4> does anyone know how to when ubuntu is allready installed with leftover space?
[04:22] <Stuart_99> Ok...here's a new question.  How can I set up wpa_supplicant.conf to have more than 1 network setup there?  I switch between multiple WPA and WPA2 enabled routers (it's my laptop...) and I would like to be able to use one instead of the other at times...
[04:23] <Nooobie> "ata3.00: exception emask 0*0sact 0*0 serr 0*0 action 0*0" <-- Help please?
[04:23] <Stuart_99> Is it possible to set wpa_supplicant.conf to use routers interchangeably?
[04:23] <nickrud> summer_s4, install windows on the remainder, then read the following
[04:23] <tom33> when i go to system>preferences>desktop effects
[04:23] <nickrud> !grub | summer_s4
[04:23] <ubotu> summer_s4: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:23] <tom33> and i try to turn it on it crashes
[04:23] <tom33> an error message shows up
[04:24] <Truman_> Well, I'm not sure how far I can trust it, but it says that it's enabled and in use
[04:24] <theblue> Hi all.
[04:24] <ziroday> Truman_: there so it worked, go play with compiz fusion
[04:24] <theblue> Is there any particular benefit to using the install DVDs compared with the install CDs?
[04:24] <nickrud> ;P
[04:24] <Nooobie> Anyone?
[04:24] <Truman_> ziroday: Heh, no, I like Gnome thanks
[04:24] <intelikey> logfile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0) Failed  to mount A/dev/hda1/': Operation not supported   <<< etc/fstab line is >>> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs-3g defaults,uid=1000       0 0
[04:24] <intelikey> ?
[04:25] <ziroday> Truman_: or go run a game then lol
[04:25] <Truman_> ziroday: When I find some good linux games, I'll hop right now that :p
[04:25] <Stuart_99> Can wpa_supplicant.conf be configured to use WPA/WPA2 routers interchangeably?
[04:25] <Nooobie> Has anyone ever gotten an error similar to "ata3.00: exception emask 0*0sact 0*0 serr 0*0 action 0*0" after an install?
[04:25] <ziroday> Truman_: try TC:Elite
[04:26] <summer_s4> anyone need help?
[04:26] <Juz_moi> I'm reading something that mentions /etc/rc.conf  I can't find it, does kubuntu use something different?
[04:26] <ziroday> Truman_: or digital paintball (modelled after CS:S)
[04:26] <intelikey> fs help ?
[04:26] <Truman_> ziroday: I might just
[04:26] <Truman_> How can I tell if it decided to use nvidia-glx or -new?
[04:26] <nickrud> intelikey, uid I think is not kosher
[04:26] <theblue> what's the difference between using the dvds and cds to install ubuntu?
[04:26] <intelikey> nickrud ?
[04:26] <summer_s4> what is the difference between ubuntu and edubuntu?
[04:26] <ziroday> Truman_: its not using either its basically using source code
[04:27] <intelikey> ok.
[04:27] <ziroday> summer_s4: different themes, installs, programs, ltsp, and a whole bunch of other stuff
[04:27] <Truman_> ziroday: Wait, so are the nvidia-glx things something apart from this restricted driver business?
[04:27] <Nooobie> Has anyone ever gotten an error similar to "ata3.00: exception emask 0*0sact 0*0 serr 0*0 action 0*0" after an install and got a sollution for it?
[04:27] <ziroday> Truman_: no there the same, but envy is apartfrom them
[04:27] <summer_s4> ziroday: any spesific's?
[04:28] <Juz_moi> one more time ......  I'm reading something that mentions /etc/rc.conf  I can't find it, does kubuntu use something different?
[04:28] <ziroday> summer_s4: all of the above is different, what do you want me to be specific about? :)
[04:28] <Truman_> ziroday: I gotcha.  Same performance, I guess?
[04:28] <nickrud> Juz_moi, depends on what that rc.conf is for
[04:28] <ziroday> Truman_: same if anything slightly better
[04:28] <Juz_moi> related to vbox and interfaces
[04:28] <nickrud> Juz_moi, you can look at ubuntu's rc stuff: ls /etc/rc*
[04:28] <Pelo> Juz_moi,  it shouldn'T should be the same
[04:28] <Stuart_99> Does anyone know if wpa_supplicant.conf can be configured to use WPA/WPA2 routers interchangeably?
[04:28] <ziroday> Truman_: just a warning when you upgrade to a new kernel
[04:29] <Stuart_99> or will network manager allow it?
[04:29] <summer_s4> ziroday: my school has edubuntu and i need to know what is different because i use ubuntu
[04:29] <Juz_moi> whick rc. does ubuntu run
[04:29] <Truman_> ziroday: Gotcha.. So with Envy do I need to go edit xorg.conf manually for my screen res?
[04:29] <tannerld> I set up a svn server on my ubuntu server, but when I try to checkout a repo, nothing happens - whats the default port for it?
[04:29] <ziroday> summer_s4: they are both completely compatible, just ubuntu has a different theme and programs. You can install all the edubuntu programs as well
[04:29] <eyequeue> Juz_moi, rc2 is default runlevel in debian/ubuntu
[04:29] <ziroday> Truman_:
[04:30] <bullgard4> Are the timestamps in dmesg given in seconds or milliseconds?
[04:30] <GeeK> anyone here have a Matrox TripleHead2Go working ?
[04:30] <Pelo> Juz_moi, it's possible that you need to make it
[04:30] <ziroday> Truman_: sorry, maybe yes
[04:30] <Juz_moi> tnx
[04:30] <Stuart_99> Ok...how about this...can I safely install Ubuntu on my Dell notebook?  Will it shrink my windows partition safely?
[04:30] <ziroday> Truman_: or try System > Pref > Screen REz
[04:30] <Truman_> ziroday: Alright .. thanks a lot -- I tried screen rez, it's not listed
[04:30] <nickrud> triplehead. heh
[04:30] <darrell> anyone know of a simple way to flip videos? I got a bunch of .mov files on my camera all sideways
[04:30] <GeeK> yay, triplehead Rulez
[04:30] <Pelo> Stuart_99,  it should but backup your data anyway and make sure you hve your windows cd just incase
[04:31] <GeeK> but no worky in ubuntu
[04:31] <ziroday> Truman_: no sorry its in the menu System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[04:31] <Stuart_99> Ok, I can back everything up and have the windows recovery cd
[04:31] <Truman_> ziroday: Isn't that what you said the first time, just with a few more letters?
[04:31] <Stuart_99> Last question for today...can I interchangeably use WPA/WP2 routers?
[04:31] <Paddy_EIRE> darrell: dont know of a simple way but LiVES looks like good video editing software as does Kino although I dont know which is better....you can get LiVES from getdeb.net
[04:31] <Pelo> Stuart_99,  and defrag your ntfs partition before hand also it will help
[04:31] <ziroday> Truman_: yeah sorry but it should b there
[04:32] <pawan1234> hi
[04:32] <Stuart_99> will do, thanks Pelo
[04:32] <pawan> by nvidia graphis card not working
[04:32] <Paddy_EIRE> darrell: kino is in the repos
[04:32] <aes_ebu> hi, when I try to run the chromium package it says it needs the chromium-data package but when I try to run the chromium-data package it says it needs the chromium package. Any suggestions?
[04:32] <Stuart_99> Ok - I'll read the documentation.  Thank you all for your help :D :D :D
[04:32] <summer_s4> ziroday: Well... what are the themes like?
[04:32] <Stuart_99> bye
[04:33] <pawan> cannot start the xwindow system
[04:33] <tr14d> Waited SO long to switch over....
[04:33] <ziroday> summer_s4: alot lighter and less red
[04:33] <nickrud> aes_ebu, are you trying to install them?
[04:33] <tr14d> waited SOooooo long
[04:33] <GeeK> so nobody has a Matrox DualHead or TripleHead ?
[04:33] <tr14d> My GOD  I am loving thos OS
[04:33] <aes_ebu> nickrud: yes
[04:33] <tr14d> *this
[04:33] <Truman_> ziroday: It doesn't detect my highest; I'ma try sticking it in xorg.conf and see what happen
[04:33] <nickrud> aes_ebu, apt-get install chromium then?
[04:33] <Truman_> err, happens
[04:33] <Pelo> pawan, on the install or have you installed already ?
[04:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Truman_: thats what you do
[04:33] <pawan> yes
[04:33] <ziroday> Truman_: yeah thats what you prob have to do
[04:33] <GeeK> tr14d: yes, i am amazed so far how nice ubuntu is
[04:33] <theblue> GeeK: I do, but i haven't used it.
[04:33] <nickrud> aes_ebu, with sudo of course
[04:33] <summer_s4> ziroday: what things come with it in the applications?
[04:33] <ziroday> !fixres| or try these Truman_
[04:34] <ubotu> or try these Truman_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:34] <pawan> now i am stuck at dos command prompt
[04:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Truman_: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:34] <Pelo> pawan,  either/or questions are not answered with yes
[04:34] <aes_ebu> nickrud: not familar with that
[04:34] <tr14d> Windows/Mac for well...since Win 3.11
[04:34] <Truman_> Paddy_EIRE: I got it.. brb while I restart x
[04:34] <tr14d> finally got sick of it
[04:34] <GeeK> theblue: you havent tried it in XOrg yet? know any resources might help get it to run ?
[04:34] <nickrud> pawan, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg , should get you back up
[04:34] <ziroday> summer_s4: basically everything edubuntu has except for some games er the music editng program, and some other stuff i cant remember
[04:34] <Truman_> Ah, so much better
[04:34] <dmind> hola
[04:35] <dmind> hello
[04:35] <GeeK> tr14d: my windows xp was getting so sluggish i could barely play my games , read that EVE runs in Wine, so i gave it a shot
[04:35] <summer_s4> ziroday: what does the login place look like?
[04:35] <nickrud> aes_ebu, it's the way you install packages. apt-get will know that chromium needs chromium-data, and will install it automatically
[04:35] <ziroday> Truman_: glasd to hear it worked
[04:35] <ziroday> summer_s4: lighter
[04:35] <tr14d> Wine?
[04:35] <tr14d> please do tell
[04:35] <Truman_> ziroday: Not as much as I'm glad to see it working ; )
[04:35] <tr14d> :S
[04:35] <aes_ebu> nickrud: is sudo a package manager for ubuntu? Sorry I am new.
[04:35] <ziroday> Truman_: lol :)
[04:36] <Truman_> Hey, I have a challenge:  Anyone want to help me figure out some cool grub stuff with bootcamp and a missing partition in fdisk?
[04:36] <GeeK> i have had a grand noob time trying to get my 9 button mouse (doesnt work yet) working
[04:36] <theblue> GeeK: sorry, haven't used my dualhead card in years.
[04:36] <nickrud> aes_ebu, you have a gui working, right?
[04:36] <summer_s4> ziroday: what is the difference between ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop?
[04:36] <GeeK> and my tripple head display, dont work
[04:36] <Paddy_EIRE> !sudo | aes_ebu
[04:36] <ubotu> aes_ebu: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:36] <dylanmoor1> hello everybody.  can anyone help me witha  broadcom wireless card that it scanning and turning on properly, but not connecting networks
[04:36] <ziroday> summer_s4: main difference is that ubuntu server has no gui
[04:36] <GeeK> and all kinda issues with running teamspeak and a game at once , apparently older sound drivers dont allow multiple applicaitons to share souncard
[04:36] <ziroday> summer_s4: get ubuntu-desktop
[04:36] <aes_ebu> nickrud: I think I understand now and I will read that. Thanks!
[04:36] <GeeK> all the little things i took for granted in windows , are stacking up to be a weeks worth of tweeking
[04:37] <Truman_> Anybody?  fdisk?  grub?  It'll be a hell of a lot of fun.
[04:37] <nickrud> aes_ebu, then applications->add/remove, and system->prefererences->synaptic , those are your entryway into packages in ubuntu
[04:37] <ziroday> Truman_: lol
[04:37] <summer_s4> ziroday: i got desktop.
[04:37] <tr14d> lol, I had a bit of a hard time on my first go this last week
[04:37] <aes_ebu> nickrud: I was trying to install using .deb packages
[04:37] <tr14d> but im really enjoying this so far
[04:37] <tr14d> having issues getting my fx5200 drivers installed
[04:37] <GeeK> im so dependant on my games , if they dont run i get board real quick
[04:38] <nickrud> aes_ebu, not needed, hard, I came to ubuntu's predecessor just so I wouldn't have to worry about packages at that level
[04:38] <summer_s4> Does someone tell me how to install mozilla firefox 3.0a7 as an application in the applications menu?
[04:38] <ziroday> aes_ebu: in command line do this in the right directory. dpkg -i filename1.deb filename2.deb
[04:38] <darrell> Paddy_EIRE: kino doesn't work with .mov videos been trying avidemux but I can't figure out what video, audio, and format  I should use
[04:38] <tr14d> yeah, i DO miss my SOF2
[04:38] <GeeK> ya , i had some issues getting nvidia drivers working for my 7950
[04:38] <JBandP> got my display working properly, finally.
[04:38] <Truman_> Man, you guys are tolly lame :\
[04:38] <JBandP> it was all about the nvidia restricted drivers.
[04:38] <Nooobie> Has anyone ever gotten an error similar to "ata3.00: exception emask 0*0sact 0*0 serr 0*0 action 0*0" after an install and got a sollution for it?
[04:38] <GeeK> went with the nvidia-glx-new instead
[04:38] <nickrud> aes_ebu, you had a taste of dpkg hell, hope it warned you away from that method :)
[04:38] <Paddy_EIRE> darrell: oh, 1 sec I'll see if I can find anything useful for you
[04:38] <darrell> Paddy_EIRE: If I use YV12(raw), Vorbis,AVI combo I have a blue picture with no sound
[04:39] <GeeK> well im going to go try a certain beta that i got into of which i cant talk about
[04:39] <aes_ebu> nickrud: I think it did. Thanks very much!
[04:39] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hey folks..
[04:39] <tr14d> lol
[04:39] <GeeK> it dont run on wine, so windows box here i come
[04:39] <tr14d> have fun
[04:39] <Nooobie> Sigh... Oh well...
[04:39] <GeeK> im going back to windows,... however much fun that can be....
[04:39] <tr14d> lol
[04:39] <tr14d> geek
[04:39] <tr14d> real quick
[04:39] <Nooobie> Going back to windows too... C ya'll
[04:39] <GeeK> ?
[04:39] <tr14d> question
[04:40] <tr14d> what is wine
[04:40] <dylanmoor1> !wine
[04:40] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:40] <GeeK> wine is a free imlementation of windows
[04:40] <theblue> GeeK: not really.
[04:40] <GeeK> ya what ubotu swid
[04:40] <tr14d> kk
[04:40] <tr14d> thx
[04:40] <theblue> GeeK: (ReactOS is, though).
[04:40] <GeeK> well i was still typing
[04:40] <GeeK> but ubotu beat me
[04:40] <tr14d> lol
[04:40] <varun_> where are fonts stored?
[04:40] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> trying to find libssl0.9.6 and when i type sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.6 i get this... E: Couldn't find package libssl0.9.6
[04:40] <GeeK> its a free implementation of the windows APIs
[04:41] <darrell> Paddy_EIRE: now trying FFV1(lavcodec), FAAC, and AVI I get flipped video without sound and perfect picture quality
[04:41] <GeeK> for running windows application
[04:41] <nickrud> varun_, /usr/share/fonts (system) and ~/.fonts (yours)
[04:41] <GeeK> but im not able to get any .net 2 stuff working :(
[04:41] <Rico> WINE = WINdows Emulator
[04:41] <ziroday> !find libssl | Vsop_vsop_vsop_v
[04:41] <varun_> nickrud: thanks
[04:41] <ubotu> vsop_vsop_vsop_v: Found: libssl-dev, libssl0.9.8, libssl0.9.8-dbg, libssl-ocaml, libssl-ocaml-dev (and 2 others)
[04:41] <eTiger13> can someone help me to get my wireless card working without using the gui?
[04:41] <GeeK> but it runs my EVE :)
[04:41] <theblue> WINE = WINE Is Not an Emulator
[04:41] <Paddy_EIRE> darrell: hmm
[04:41] <GeeK> x if you EVE
[04:41] <tr14d> well thanks again geek
[04:41] <nickrud> varun_, you may need to create the ~/.fonts directory if it's not there
[04:41] <tr14d> :D
[04:41] <dylanmoor1> hello everybody.  can anyone help me witha  broadcom wireless card that it scanning and turning on properly, but not connecting networks
[04:41] <Rico> It emulates DLL execution
[04:41] <GeeK> anyone ?
[04:41] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> anyone other then a bot?
[04:42] <ziroday> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: its sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.8
[04:42] <Juz_moi> what does the $2 mean in this script line:    sudo /sbin/ifconfig $2 up
[04:42] <ziroday> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: like the bot said
[04:42] <GeeK> tr14d: go get wine and then go download a free trial of eve , www.winehq.com will help you get it running in nix
[04:42] <GeeK> runs great
[04:42] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Ziorday: Fair enuff.. i have done that allready
[04:42] <tr14d> awesome....ill get working on that right now
[04:42] <GeeK> :P
[04:43] <piedoggie> this is crazy making.  I can't even partition completely my raid array (hardware raid controller)
[04:43] <Paddy_EIRE> dylanmoor1: been trying to fix a mates all day, grrrrr damn broadcom which lappy you on
[04:43] <GeeK> if you play my name is SXYGeeK in game
[04:43] <Rockinghorse>  dylan, what kind of prob are you having?
[04:43] <ziroday> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: you said in your q's you installed 0.9.6 not 0.9.8
[04:43] <ziroday> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: thats the diff you need
[04:43] <dylanmoor1> rockinghorse, i used (essentially) fwcutter to get the firmware to recognize the card.
[04:43] <tr14d> play?
[04:43] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ziroday: your right its askeind for 0.9.6
[04:43] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Asking**
[04:44] <tr14d> sry i missed that game?
[04:44] <tr14d> wht did you say?
[04:44] <dylanmoor1> rockinghorse, iwconfig shows the card, but when i use network manager to try to connect to my friend's (non-encrypted) AP, it timesout, not connecting
[04:44] <Nooobie> Goodbye..
[04:44] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> trying to install Yahoo...
[04:44] <aes_ebu> nickrud: chromium starts up and the quits right away. Do you know how I can find out what is going on?
[04:45] <Paddy_EIRE> dylanmoor1: have you tried http://www.linux-geek.org/index.php/2007/04/22/dell-1390-native-linux-driver-how-to-updated
[04:45] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> is there a way to get into a yahoo chatroom with voice and cam?...
[04:46] <Paddy_EIRE> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: I think that GYachi does that although I cannot be sure
[04:46] <darrell> Paddy_EIRE: now trying FFV1(lavcodec), copy, and AVI I can play it perfectly in VLC but not totem, it gives error "The playback of this movie requires a video/x-avi-unknown decoder plugin which is not installed."
[04:46] <Rockinghorse>  dylanmo, have you tried an atheros card? they are the best supported ootb
[04:46] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> paddy: ya i heard that too but never really got into it.. and when i did it was a task in its self
[04:46] <darrell> damn this is so confusing lol
[04:47] <dylanmoor1> paddy_eire, rockinghorse, let me read that page.
[04:47] <Paddy_EIRE> !multimedia | darrell
[04:47] <ubotu> darrell: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[04:47] <eTiger13> Rocinghorse: really? could you help me connect mine? its having problems on a fresh install
[04:47] <Truman_> So has anyone decided that they'd like to have some fun with fdisk and/or grub?  'cause I could sure use some help.
[04:48] <darrell> Paddy_EIRE: hmm got all the gstreamer. I think its just a vlc only sorta thing
[04:48] <asc> Is using 'time mplayer file' and taking the user/system time a reasonable way to test the performance of different versions of mplayer (for a given file format, of course)
[04:48] <asc> *?
[04:48] <Rockinghorse> eteran, is it usb?
[04:48] <Rockinghorse> eTiger13, is it usb?
[04:49] <piedoggie> by the way, those instructions for installing multimedia codecs don't always work right.  I've done them twice and failed twice
[04:49] <Selrach> How do I add support for graphics above 16 colors when using vmware player to host a windows 2000 or XP VM?
[04:49] <Dr_willis> Selrach,  install the vmwaretools yet on the virtual machine?
[04:49] <eTiger13> rockinghorse: I have two. one is a pcmcia card and the second is a usb one. the usb one seems to be closer to getting it to work.
[04:49] <piedoggie> Selrach: you need to install the VM ware tools
[04:49] <Selrach> where do I find that?
[04:49] <Dr_willis> Selrach,  in the vmwareserver, its in the menus. I never use vmware player.
[04:49] <Selrach> repositories?
[04:50] <RoC_MM> Selrach, contact vmware.
[04:50] <piedoggie> Selrach: you are given an option on the console to install the tools
[04:50] <Selrach> oh okay
[04:50] <Dr_willis> vmware will 'add' a cd to the virtual os, that you then use to install the stuff with.
[04:50] <piedoggie> tools are then mounted as a DVD image
[04:50] <myTunes> hello
[04:50] <Dr_willis> sort of a neat trick really. :)
[04:50] <Rockinghorse> have you checked if there are restricted drivers in the repos for your cards?
[04:50] <myTunes> I have a dumb question...
[04:50] <ice_cream> myTunes, better to just ask away =)
[04:50] <masterloki> our favorite kind ;)
[04:50] <ice_cream> then lead up to it
[04:50] <ice_cream> than*
[04:51] <masterloki> !ask
[04:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:51] <darrell> myTunes: how dumb myTunes? is it really really dumb? lol
[04:51] <myTunes> I just set up a 6.06 server... whenever I go to a page I set up with php... the script will ask to dl instead of execute. How do I fix this?
[04:51] <pawan> hi
[04:51] <eTiger13> rockinghorse: its showing up when I do a iwconfig, except it shows up as eth0 instead og wlan0
[04:51] <pawan> cant start the xwindow system
[04:52] <darrell> myTunes: yeah I had that error before when I was surfing some pr0n. was that yo site? hehe
[04:52] <myTunes> uh... no.
[04:52] <ice_cream> lol
[04:52] <pawan> my nvidia graphics card not matching
[04:52] <darrell> myTunes: what happens when you say open with browser?
[04:52] <bf> can anyone help me get audio record working with my Plantronics USB DSP-400?  arecord returns an IO error
[04:53] <pawan> version not matching
[04:53] <myTunes> I haven't done that because that is not what's supposed to happen. What I want to know is how to tell the server that php scripts are supposed to be run.
[04:53] <Rockinghorse> eTiger13, thats the norm does iwconfig give any info what is happening? Any errors?
[04:53] <summer_s4> does anyone know the horizsync and vertrefresh of a Compaq 7550 monitor?
[04:53] <jacob2440> #ubuntu-arizona
[04:53] <bcbooter> hmm how do i install adobe flash player in opera? i got it installed for mozilla
[04:54] <pawan> how to boot in safe mode
[04:54] <Rockinghorse> eteran, Try a WAG511 it is well supported.
[04:54] <eTiger13> rockinghorse: nope, no errors, just that AP is invalid
[04:54] <pawan> i want to reinstall nvidia graphics card driver
[04:55] <pawan> but my xwindow system is not starting
[04:55] <Rockinghorse> i would try a netgear card, esp the wag511 i think it's called.  has been said to be good w/ Ubuntu
[04:55] <Selrach> are you using 64 bit?
[04:55] <Jaso1> hello, i'm having some issues with "connect to server" is this the correct channel to find help?
[04:55] <Selrach> pawan: are you using 64 bit?
[04:56] <pawan> 32 bit
[04:56] <Selrach> ah.
[04:56] <Selrach> feisty 64 bit gave me trouble... sheesh
[04:56] <Paddy_EIRE> Jaso1: correct place fire away at your questions
[04:56] <myTunes> anyone have an idea on how to tell the server to run php? I have it installed already...
[04:56] <Selrach> did you try using startx?
[04:56] <pawan> can we start the system in safe mode and disable thecard
[04:56] <Geoffrey2> boot log, what folder would it be located in?
[04:57] <pawan> yes
[04:57] <chikita> how do i get a clean desktop?
[04:57] <Selrach> and that gets you what?
[04:57] <eTiger13> rockinghorse: both of the cards work if I use a live cd for desktop but im trying to do it in server
[04:57] <Selrach> x server crash?
[04:57] <pawan> it says cannot start xwindow system
[04:57] <Selrach> is this a fresh install?
[04:58] <Quinton_> can someone tell me how to make ubjntu use internet rather than a cd in synaptic?
[04:58] <pawan> yes
[04:58] <pawan> how to reinstall
[04:58] <Selrach> how old is your video card?
[04:58] <pawan> one year
[04:58] <chikita> how do i get an empty desktop?
[04:58] <Selrach> if its really old, you might need to use legacy drivers
[04:58] <pawan> it is supported onthe ubuntu site
[04:58] <IdNotFound> Quinton_: you have to configure where APT looks for packages... I believe apt-config should help you, not sure... it's been a long time
[04:59] <pawan> geforce fx 5200
[04:59] <tupa> Quinton_ http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ and man sources.list
[04:59] <IdNotFound> chikita: you should have 4 virtual desktops by default on gnome, look on the lower right corner of the screen
[04:59] <dylanmoore> hello, i was speaking to some people about my broadcom wireless card.  you referred me to a site to update my drivers.  i did this and i am still getting the same strangle problem: i can iwlist scan and see APs, but i cant connect to any of them
[04:59] <Quinton_> tupa: guide me?
[05:00] <_tcc> During init, Feisty takes a very long time to load ACPI modules and bring up HalD.
[05:00] <_tcc> Why is this?
[05:00] <_tcc> I've never had this problem in earlier releases.
[05:00] <_tcc> Maybe 2 or 3 minutes.
[05:00] <summer_s4> what is the ubuntu just chat?
[05:00] <pawan> how to reinstall graphics card from command prompt
[05:01] <IdNotFound> pawan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx, maybe ?
 what i mean is that i dont want any icons on the desktop and that includes the partitions mounted
[05:01] <IdNotFound> chikita: oh right... sorry... I guess I don't know then...
[05:01] <theblue> One more time, can anyone tell me the difference between the Ubuntu DVDs on Amazon and the Ubuntu CDs on Amazon?
[05:01] <theblue> or the Ubuntu DVDs vs. the CDs in general?
[05:01] <summer_s4> theblue
[05:01] <summer_s4> nothing
[05:02] <Dr_willis> Under Printer Ports - in the GNome-cups-manager - it says Parallel port #1 Epson, Parrel Port #1 Canon, I dont even Have a printer on this box. :) what gives?
[05:02] <theblue> summer_s4: That seems really stupid.
[05:02] <dylanmoore> can anyone help me with my strange wireless problem: wireless card iwlist scan sees local APs but will not connect to any of them?
[05:02] <Truman_> pawan: To get it to startx without error, you could also sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and select either the "Vesa" or "nv" driver at that very first screen.. then enter/tab through all of the rest
[05:02] <zenmonk> are there any guis to help setup wpa?
[05:02] <Paddy_EIRE> theblue: why would you buy a free OS
[05:02] <theblue> ok, i'm off then.
[05:02] <theblue> Paddy_EIRE: no idea.
[05:02] <Truman_> pawan: That should let you startx, at least
[05:02] <Dr_willis> To support it.
[05:02] <chikita> how do i get rid of icons on the desktop?
[05:02] <summer_s4> theblue: there is no difference other then cd's or dvd read/rite speed
[05:02] <zenmonk> Paddy_EIRE: to support it and to have it support you
[05:02] <theblue> summer_s4: ahh.
[05:02] <theblue> Paddy_EIRE: they've all got a point.
[05:03] <_tcc> During init, Feisty takes a very long time to load ACPI modules and bring up HalD.
[05:03] <theblue> i'm off then.
[05:03] <_tcc> Why?
[05:03] <theblue> thanks all.
[05:03] <Truman_> Hey, I've got a question.. from windows if I install something that gives me ext3 support, I should be able to run like .exe files even if they're stored on the ext3 filesystem, right?
[05:03] <Truman_> as long as I'm booted to windows
[05:04] <Jaso1> Oh great, thanks..  I'm trying to use "connect to server" to transfer files from a school machine using ssh.  I can log into the school machine from the command line over ssh with no problems.  When I try to use the "connect to server" explorer interface to transfer files, however, it never fully connects. The first time I attempt a connection I'm asked to validate the key file, then the explorer window just continues processing without ev
[05:04] <Rockinghorse> eTiger13, /etc/network/interfaces file -- erase all entries (back up first) except what pertains to your card.  Sometimes will choke on too many entries.  known bug HTH
[05:04] <summer_s4> does anyone know how to use novell login client with ubuntu?
[05:04] <dylanmoore> rockinghorse, did you have a suggestion on this wireless card issue?
[05:04] <zenmonk> Truman: yes.  fs-driver should do preciesly that, it does't matter to windows if it is on ntfs or fat or ext2
[05:05] <chikita> i wish ubuntu were at least half user friendly of what windows is...
[05:05] <IdNotFound> Truman_: yes... There is a nice driver, I believe it's on fs-driver.org (maybe without a dash) for Windows to recognize ext3 partitions
[05:05] <Quinton_> can someone guide me through how to make synaptic use internet instead of cd
[05:05] <Truman_> zenmonk: IdNotFound:  Thanks
[05:05] <Paddy_EIRE> dylanmoore: did that link help
[05:05] <summer_s4> chikita: that is linux for you.  I could help you find a windows-like linux
[05:05] <Truman_> Anyone want to help me out with some fstab/grub stuff?
[05:05] <Rockinghorse> dylanmoore, sometimes the /etc/network/interfaces file chokes on too many irrelevant entries. Prune file and try again
[05:06] <dylanmoore> paddy_erie, i tried that tutorial and restarted and i am still having the issue: seeing the APs but not connecting to any
[05:06] <Paddy_EIRE> dylanmoore: why not use ndiswrapper
[05:06] <summer_s4> can someone tell me how to install firefox 3.0a7 as an application
[05:06] <zenmonk> Truman_: best just to ask directly, if someone knows they should speak up :)
[05:06] <g2g591> for some reason, gparted wont let me make one of my logical partitions bigger even though there is unallocated space (in the extended partation) and the extended partation is unmounted
[05:06] <chikita> i just wanr ro know how to get rid of icons on the desktop and how to manually add programs in the applications tab
  open your /etc/apt/source.list
[05:07] <gravemind> if I can ping another computer, what's the easiest way to transfer files between them?
[05:07] <eTiger13> rockinghorse: all mine has is the auto lo and iface lo inet dhcp. shouldn't there be something for eth0 too?
[05:07] <nicle> Quinton_: sorry, this file: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:07] <Quinton_> nicle: how?
[05:07] <dylanmoore> rockinghorse, all that file has in it is: "auto lo        iface lo inet loopback"
[05:07] <Truman_> zenmonk: It's a bit of a long story, but.. the skinny is that I moved my ext3 linux partition to some freespace, then expanded it to take up all of the freespace along with my old ext3 partition.  gparted/parted see everything as being fine, but fdisk shows a big hole right where my new ext3 partition is.  Also, I'm having trouble getting grub to let me boot to my new partition.
[05:08] <chohmann> i seem to have lost sound. where should i look to determine why?
[05:08] <Paddy_EIRE> gravemind: openssh-server is great
[05:08] <eyequeue> gravemind, scp
[05:08] <nicle>  Quinton_: open the file with editor whatever you like
[05:08] <Paddy_EIRE> eyequeue: whats scp
[05:08] <dylanmoore> paddy_erie, i tried using ndiswrapper, but ive gotten farthered using the firmware since i have read everywhere that my card (bcm4303) is supported
[05:08] <gravemind> Paddy_EIRE: eyequeue: yeah, it's a one time operation, so I think scp would be best
[05:08] <eyequeue> scp (1)              - secure copy (remote file copy program)
[05:08] <Quinton_> nicle: dont know how
[05:09] <zenmonk> Truman_: this is in the middle of where Windows was?
[05:09] <g2g591> i have some partation growing issues, can some one help?
[05:09] <eyequeue> Paddy_EIRE, uses ssh protocol to "cp" nonlocally
[05:09] <Paddy_EIRE> sounds useful gravemind eyequeue
[05:09] <nicle> Quinton_:  ok, I will send my sources.list to you
[05:09] <sssenator> hey, what do I do if I have my Nvida drivers installed, but compiz fusion lacks all of my windows in place??
[05:09] <Paddy_EIRE> eyequeue: any guides or info
[05:09] <sssenator> locks*
[05:09] <gravemind> eyequeue: I remember it being slower than smb though, is that true?
[05:10] <jqg> help!!!My server suffer DDOS attack, what should I do???
[05:10] <eyequeue> Paddy_EIRE, man scp should be in your openssh package
[05:10] <nicle> Quinton_: and just replace yours with my sources.list
[05:10] <dylanmoore> rockinghorse, all that file has in it is: "auto lo        iface lo inet loopback"
[05:10] <Truman_> zenmonk: It used to be an HFS+ partition for mac os X, but I successfully shrunk it down.. before I did anything else, my computer was fat32booot>hfs+>freespace>ext3>swap .. moved the ext3 into freespace, expanded it to take up all of that plus the old ext3
[05:10] <eyequeue> gravemind, can't say, no experince with smb myself
[05:10] <dylanmoore> paddy_erie, i tried using ndiswrapper, but ive gotten farther using the firmware since i have read everywhere that my card (bcm4303) is supported
[05:10] <_tcc> Has anyone else had the problem of a really slow boot in Feisty? It seems to be ACPI modules and Hald. I am using a laptop.
[05:10] <zenmonk> Truman_:no, wait im off my rocker I was thinking of chkdisk for some weird reason
[05:10] <eTiger13> dylanmoore: seems like we are in pretty close to the same boat
[05:11] <dylanmoore> etiger, what card do you have,  a bcm43  ?
[05:11] <Truman_> zenmonk: I gotcha.  Any ideas for me?
[05:11] <g2g591> i have some problems making my logical ex3 partation bigger, gparted lets me shrink it, but not make it bigger (yes there is free space in the extended partition)
[05:11] <zenmonk> Truman_: I don't kow, but maybe someone else here does, Im still a n00b myself, but I try to grab the easy questions when I see them
[05:11] <Truman_> g2g591: Is the freespace before or after your logical partition?
[05:11] <troy14> great ... now the sites are not working at all.
[05:11] <Truman_> zenmonk: Heh, I gotcha
[05:11] <troy14> I could really use a hand here...
[05:12] <g2g591> before
[05:12] <Truman_> g2g591: You can't expand that way
[05:12] <Rockinghorse> try putting the line, *iface eth? inet dhcp* in the interfaces file with eth? being the one you're trying to activate.  It is DHCP right?
[05:12] <g2g591> ok, then, how can i move it up
[05:12] <g2g591> i don't particularly want to reinstall
[05:12] <Truman_> g2g591: What you have to do is make a new ext3 partition out of the freespace, copy everything over to it, then grow it to eat up all of the space
[05:13] <Truman_> g2g591: then you have to fix grub so that it sees the new partition as bootable
[05:13] <g2g591> ok, know any good way to transfer installed apps?
[05:13] <dylanmoore> rockinghorse, yes, let me try that
[05:13] <Quinton_> nicle: ?
[05:13] <Truman_> g2g591: Is the freespace larger than your current linux install?
[05:13] <jqg> help!!!My server suffer DDOS attack, what should I do???
 can you see my request of sending file?
[05:14] <Quinton_> nicle: no
[05:14] <g2g591> its about the same size (5gig)
[05:15] <g2g591> im on a different install now
 ok, is your ubuntu's version feisty?
[05:15] <Truman_> g2g591: If it is, after you turn the freespace into an ext3 partition and mount it, you should be able to, say cp -rvp /media/old /media/new
[05:15] <dylanmoore> rockinghorse, i put that new line in the file, modprobed bcm43xx again, but i still cannot connect to my AP
[05:15] <Quinton_> nicle: yes
[05:15] <g2g591> k
 ok , follow me
[05:15] <Truman_> g2g591: But I have no idea how to get grub to recognize it after that .. that's actually the problem that I'm having right now
 : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:16] <korhalf> how would i go about mounting uif files?
[05:16] <mflynn> Help! :) my HD keeps filling up, any ideas on where the space may be going? Things to delete, etc... ?
[05:16] <Quinton_> nicle: got it
[05:16] <Truman_> g2g591: err, you'll probably also have to sudo cp -rvp /media/sdaold /media/sdanew
[05:17] <Truman_> g2g591: or hda, whatever your partitions are called :\
[05:17] <iqon> has anyone else started having trouble getting they're laptop to sleep?
[05:17] <Truman_> iqon: I do, but I haven't found a way to fix it yet :p
[05:17] <Quinton_> nicle: k
[05:17] <dylanmoore> rockinghorse, do you have any other ideas?
 add "#" at the begin of every line
[05:17] <DShepherd> iqon, not me
[05:17] <g2g591> its copying...
[05:17] <korhalf> how would i go about mounting uif files?
 if the line not begin with "#"
[05:17] <iqon> Truman_: mine used to work just fine, now it won't finish the process of going to sleep
[05:17] <Truman_> iqon: Ah, mine won't come back
[05:18] <Rockinghorse> noccy, but I would ask in alt.os.linux.ubuntu some wiz's there
 add : deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe multiverse
[05:18] <mflynn> iqon: I always have trouble getting my laptop to sleep, I find it helps close as many apps as possible, also the swap on this machine disappears once in a while
[05:18] <korhalf> Truman_, iqon my thinkpad T42 worked out of the box
 add: deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe multiverse
 add: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted universe multiverse
 add: deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted universe multiverse
 save the file, and run the command: sudo apt-get update
 that's all
[05:20] <iqon> mine used too work, with one of the last updates, it all of a sudden stopped, i haven't been able to figure out which update did it
[05:20] <marcos> boa noite pessoal
[05:20] <Truman_> Hey, can someone help me out with a grub problem?  the skinny is that I moved my ext3 linux partition to some freespace, then expanded it to take up all of the freespace along with my old ext3 partition.  gparted/parted see everything as being fine, but fdisk shows a big hole right where my new ext3 partition is.  Also, I'm having trouble getting grub to let me boot to my new partition.
[05:21] <jqg> help!!!My server suffer DDOS attack, what should I do???
[05:21] <pawan> how to start ubuntu in safe mode
[05:21] <Rockinghorse> dylanmoore what command are you using  to connect?
[05:21] <marcos> are there any brazilian user?
[05:21] <eTiger13> what is the default permissions for /etc/network/interfaces?
[05:22] <pawan> xserver 104 error
[05:22] <Truman_> pawan: Are you still having trouble starting x?
[05:22] <elkbuntu> jqg, restart the router. you should get a new ip address if you're not on a static account
[05:22] <astro76> !br | marcos
[05:22] <ubotu> marcos: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:22] <pawan> yes
[05:22] <jqg> elkbuntu,I am static IP
[05:23] <Rockinghorse> the command should be ifup eth? for bringing up the interface
[05:23] <marcos> thanks ubotu
 I think it's 644
[05:23] <Truman_> pawan: Ah, I'm not sure about that one, sorry
[05:24] <Truman_> pawan: Try google for xserver error 104?
[05:24] <spike724> hey can someone help me with updates?  when I try and update it says my updates "can't be authenticated"
[05:24] <astro76> Rockinghorse, ifup eth0 (eth1, etc...)
[05:25] <pawan> how to start ubuntu in safe mode
[05:25] <Ashfire908> how do i rerun the ubuntu device databse tool thing
[05:26] <eTiger13> could some run wget http://zd1211.ath.cx/download/zd1211-driver-r85.tgz and tell me if it downloads drivers or not?
[05:26] <pawan> i want to disable my graphics card
[05:26] <kahrytan> I love dual hard drives
[05:26] <astro76> Ashfire908, there's a button in system>preferences>hardware information
[05:26] <asdf> My network card doesn't work, even tho (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards3Com) page says it is supposed to be auto detected, and working.   I'm all linux now
[05:27] <bastid_raZor> my dog died :/
[05:27] <gareth> ajuajuaj your dead dog
[05:28] <gareth> did you eat the body?
[05:28] <bastid_raZor> windows is good for eating harddrives
[05:28] <asdf> Can anyone help me?
[05:28] <pawan> how to start ubuntu in safe mode
[05:28] <gareth> sure, tell us
[05:28] <kahrytan> bastid_raZor: I just reinstalled windows
[05:28] <Ashfire908> i need to rerun it
[05:28] <bastid_raZor> i did not eat my dog.. but i could probably of sold him to the chinese food people
[05:28] <pawan> i want to disable my graphics card
[05:28] <Rockinghorse> astro76, yes, the following lines should be in /etc/network/interfaces: auto lo    iface lo inet loopback   iface eth? inet dhcp all on its own line.  then ifup eth? to activate HTH
[05:28] <asdf> My network card doesn't work, even tho (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards3Com) page says it is supposed to be auto detected, and working.  It doesn't even detect it.
[05:28] <eyequeue> pawan, what would that mean?
[05:28] <korhalf> gareth: lol
[05:28] <bastid_raZor> kahrytan, sorry to hear that
[05:28] <pawan> i want to disable my graphics card
[05:28] <Ashfire908> how do i reset and rerun the ubuntu device databse tool?
[05:29] <kahrytan> bastid_raZor: I could buy another ide drive or just convert to SATA motherboard.
[05:29] <eyequeue> pawan, i have no idea on that one
[05:29] <Wulfie_alien> hey folks - I am trying to mount quake4 disc 2 but for some reason however i mount it only root can read it
[05:29] <bastid_raZor> kahrytan, i have windows in VMWare only.. i would never give windows more than virtual access
[05:29] <Yestoi> hmm, is there a way to have the bash shell "implanted" onto the desktop (no window border)?
 what's your safe mode meaning?
[05:29] <gareth> with profilactic
[05:30] <Rockinghorse> I meant each on it's own line ie 3 lines
[05:30] <Truman_> Yestoi: So you mean like the whole screen is the shell?
[05:30] <pawan> in which the drivers have been disabled
[05:30] <christopher> #ubuntu-es
 u can try the recover mode in the grub
[05:30] <Yestoi> Truman_: No, like the normal gnome wm, but in the background a terminal
[05:30] <Yestoi> It sounds stupid
[05:31] <Truman_> Yestoi: lol.. I'm not sure about that.  You could always use ctrl+alt+f2 and ctrl+alt+f7 to switch back and forth from shell to x
[05:31] <Yestoi> In other terms a screenlet type thing
[05:31] <kahrytan> bastid_raZor: Vmware isnt smart for me
[05:31] <bastid_raZor> back to watching movies via 2nd ubuntu box connected to the tv
[05:31] <spike724> has anyone gotten the error about updates not being authenticated?
[05:31] <bastid_raZor> kahrytan, installing windows is less of an intellegent option
[05:31] <pawan> how
[05:31] <Yestoi> I mean to have a shell thats in the background, thus not having to open a terminal every time I need to do something
[05:32] <korhalf> How do i go about mounting UIF files?
[05:32] <kahrytan> bastid_raZor: But required. Linux sucks for what I need Windows for
[05:32] <Ashfire908> how do i reset and rerun the ubuntu device databse tool?
[05:32] <Yestoi> Without switching tty
[05:32] <Rockinghorse> you can add auto lo and auto eth? for auto activation i think
[05:32] <pawan> how to enter recover mode in grub
[05:32] <bastid_raZor> kahrytan, wine? windows is horrid all around. more than one option to solve windows issues
[05:32] <zedQ> Hello, how do I apply a .txt WINE patch
[05:33] <kahrytan> bastid_raZor: backup used dvds I buy that are scratched?
[05:33] <astro76> Rockinghorse, it should be a specific ethx, not just eth in interfaces
[05:33] <dylanmoore> hello, I'm having problems with my bcm4303 broadcom chipset wireless card.  the card will see available APs, but will not connect to any of them
 is your os ubuntu?
[05:33] <pawan> yes
[05:33] <aes_ebu> how to I unload a module?
[05:33] <pawan> ubuntu 7.04
[05:33] <astro76> aes_ebu, rmmod
[05:33] <eyequeue> rmmod (8)            - simple program to remove a module from the Linux Kernel
[05:33] <Rockinghorse> yes, naturally eth0, eth1, etc
[05:34] <astro76> Rockinghorse, ok sorry ;)
 reboot your machine and you will see the recover mode in the grub list
[05:34] <aes_ebu> astro76: thanks
[05:34] <pawan> ok
 by the way, some  driver is built in the kernel. if u wanna disable them ,u must recompile them
[05:35] <bastid_raZor> scratched...
[05:35] <_mEo> Hi, does anyone know of an easy way to switch between qwerty and dvorak?  I know how to do it in the console, but id like an application or something to be able to do it
[05:35] <Rockinghorse> astro76, man interfaces for the man page
[05:36] <poningru> _mEo: in the gnome panel you can add a language switch thing
[05:36] <poningru> it shoul have a dvorack option
[05:36] <poningru> should*
[05:36] <asdf> My network card doesn't work, even tho (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards3Com) page says it is supposed to be auto detected, and working.  It doesn't even detect it.
[05:36] <_mEo> Ok, is there a applet or tray application that i can do it in also?
[05:37] <bruenig> _mEo, if you can do it in console, why not just script it and then set up a keyboard shortcut to run that script
[05:37] <asdf> Can anyone here help?
[05:37] <_mEo> would xmodmap be best?
[05:37] <bruenig> !info xmodmap
[05:37] <ubotu> xmodmap: X input map modification. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 18 kB, installed size 76 kB
[05:37] <bruenig> xmodmap for what?
[05:37] <_mEo> mapping to a key
[05:37] <_mEo> like command mapping to a key
[05:37] <bruenig> I would use xbindkeys
[05:37] <_mEo> sorry
[05:37] <asdf> Does anyone here actually help anybody?
[05:38] <_mEo> that's what i did mean, yes ok
[05:38] <_mEo> what is it asdf
[05:38] <asdf> well
[05:38] <bruenig> !enter
[05:38] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:38] <asdf> I've asked at least 5 times now
[05:38] <bruenig> asdf, then leave
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude > asdf
[05:38] <asdf> My network card doesn't work, even tho (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards3Com) page says it is supposed to be auto detected, and working.  It doesn't even detect it.
[05:38] <_mEo> asdf
[05:38] <DShepherd> what program can i use to convert an ogg to an avi?
[05:38] <_mEo> one sec
[05:39] <Chewy954> whats the command to delete files? through command line
[05:39] <eyequeue> rm
[05:39] <Chewy954> thanks
[05:39] <eyequeue> sure
[05:39] <Chewy954> rm: backups: is a directory
[05:39] <Chewy954> =\
[05:39] <asdf> I'm sorry for the attitude, its just that allt he questions I've seen being answered so far are answers that can be found by typing www.google.com
[05:39] <bastid_raZor> rm -Rf
[05:39] <asdf> I've been searching ubuntu's website for 4 hours now
[05:40] <asdf> and it all says its auto detected, which its not.
[05:40] <bruenig> why would you type www. what a waste of time that is
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: What is the model and chipset of your card?
[05:40] <astro76> Rockinghorse, sorry I'm going AFK, here's my interfaces (default) if you're interested http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31875/
[05:40] <asdf>  3Com
[05:40] <asdf>
[05:40] <asdf> 3c905x
[05:40] <bastid_raZor> Chewy954, rm -Rf
[05:40] <amicrawler> DO I NEED TO DO ANY THING TO CONVERT m4a  to mp3
[05:41] <bruenig> !caps | amicrawler
[05:41] <ubotu> amicrawler: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!  It's better to prune it to the bare minimum.
[05:45] <astro76> Rockinghorse, that's just default in feisty, suppose I could prune it
[05:46] <Rockinghorse> astro76, yes theres a known bug in which non existing ifaces can hang up ifup
[05:47] <Ashfire908> where do i send the ubuntu devices database file?
[05:47] <Wulfie_alien> hey folks - I am trying to mount quake4 disc 2 but for some reason however i mount it only root can read it - anyone have any thoughts?
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=904615    set static ip and assign default gateway was one persons solution but a closer look says it isnt the same card even though the topic was
[05:49] <asdf> My ip is dynamic and I have to use dhcp
[05:49] <|_ocke> anyone know what the process name for Kasbar is?
[05:49] <DShepherd> Wulfie_alien, sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /place/you/want/to/mount -o umask=0022 #this might help
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: Are you able to ping out..
[05:49] <asdf> It didn't even detect the card.
[05:49] <|_ocke> i want to get rid of it but theres no close option on it and i cant find the process to kill
[05:49] <asdf> Ive tried all 3 open pci slots
[05:49] <|_ocke> it isnt named kasbar or anything like it
[05:50] <asdf> ps -aux doesn't show it?
[05:50] <Truman_> Sweet jesus mac osx is a bloated little wench.  Did you know it tries to install every printer driver known to man automatically?
[05:50] <asdf> lol
[05:50] <Chewy954> whats the reboot command through command line?
[05:50] <Wulfie_alien> DShepherd: that did not seem to help - the strange thing is disc 1 mounts just fine
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: Lately I have seen different chipsets in the same model cards with a v1 or2 or4 hidden in the docs.
[05:51] <Chewy954> whats the reboot command through command line?
[05:51] <Chewy954> Anyone know?
[05:51] <Truman_> The epson ones alone take 700MB.. what?
[05:51] <DShepherd> Wulfie_alien, i dont know then..
[05:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Truman_: is it worth getting a macpro if only to have the option to tri boot lin win and os x
[05:51] <DShepherd> Chewy954, reboot
[05:51] <|_ocke> and i cant even find it in my k menu to look at the propoerties to find out
[05:51] <Truman_> Paddy_EIRE: A macpro or a macbook pro?
[05:51] <asdf> Chewy954.. sudo shutdown -r now
[05:51] <|_ocke> and when i restarted it started with KDE
[05:52] <Chewy954> thanks
[05:52] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: I am not trying to be vague, but I only use broadcoms..   I would try the ndiswrapper route even though it says it is supported, something has changed..
[05:52] <DShepherd> |_ocke, have you tried asking in kubuntu? they might have a clue
[05:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Truman_: not a macbook the tower im talkin about
[05:52] <ThatGuy231> When I enable desktop effects my windows no long have title bars or minimizing/maxmizing/closing buttons, this is on a fresh install of feisty.  What can I do fix this?
[05:52] <|_ocke> DShepherd, nope
[05:52] <|_ocke> DShepherd, good idea though
[05:52] <Truman_> Paddy_EIRE: I have no idea.. my only recent experience is with this little macbook I've got.. Can't you tri boot anyway?  I thought you used something called "rEFIT" or something
[05:52] <asdf> eh fuck it guess I wont be using ubuntu then
[05:53] <DShepherd> ThatGuy231, does it wobbly and stuff? :-)
[05:53] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: Not smart to select a distro based on a $5 card..
[05:53] <asdf> going on 5 hours tryign to get net
[05:53] <Paddy_EIRE> Truman_: me?? whats rEFIT
[05:53] <ThatGuy231> DShepherd: there is no title bar for me to grab the window and move it
[05:53] <asdf> Jack_Sparrow, send me a new card then budyd
[05:53] <Truman_> Paddy_EIRE: Some sort of bootloader thing that works with all three OS's .. lemme see if I can find the howto
[05:53] <asdf> before tommorow if you woudln't mind
[05:53] <ThatGuy231> DShepherd: just moved it with the keyboard, it does wobble
[05:53] <DShepherd> ThatGuy231, try holding the Alt Key
[05:53] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: Happy to, I have a ton of pci net cards around
[05:53] <asdf> im on a deadline
 try "ctrl+alt+backspace" , and restart the x-windows
[05:54] <DShepherd> ThatGuy231, try gtk-window-decorator --replace &
[05:54] <ThatGuy231> nicle: I'll do it properly if restarting X is what is required
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: Litteraly more than I can count
[05:54] <asdf> I'm sure you do
[05:54] <asdf> Its just sad that EVERY where i've looked on ubuntu help its ays my card is auto detected and works fine
[05:54] <asdf> yet I"ve installed htis os 3 tiems now
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: What is the deadline and what do you need to have finished
[05:54] <asdf> and have yet to have net
[05:55] <StacyM> Hey boys.
[05:55] <Truman_> Paddy_EIRE: You could check this out:  http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Triple_Boot_via_BootCamp
 just save the your opening document before restarting  your x-window
[05:55] <asdf> Well it would be nice to have a computer working before I goto sleep
[05:55] <asdf> and i've been working ong etting ubuntu to work all day now
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: I am sympathetic..
[05:55] <asdf> lol
[05:56] <randoman> humm anyone know why i get this chroot /wwwroot /bin/httpd httpd: Could not open configuration file /wwwroot/conf/httpd.conf: No such file or directory  , while the files is there - # ls /wwwroot/conf/httpd.conf?
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: You will be happy with it once you get it going..
[05:56] <asdf> I've used ubuntu before
[05:56] <asdf> with the same card
[05:56] <asdf> same cd
[05:56] <asdf> everythign
[05:56] <aes_ebu> how can I make the time apear in regular format (not military)
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: I had the same issuse back when I had to use dialup
[05:56] <asdf> win modems?
[05:56] <Truman_> randoman: Do you need to sudo that?
[05:56] <randoman> so give httpd.conf permissions?
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: All kinds of modems...  SO that card has worked with ubuntu dapper and that cd before/
[05:57] <Truman_> randoman: I mean, try sudo chroot /wwwroot .. whatever
[05:57] <StacyM> I take off my pants for ubuntu users.<PHONE_NUMBER>
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: IS there an internal nic that might be causing issues
[05:57] <Truman_> randoman: I'm not really sure; it's just a guess
[05:57] <randoman> it gives me that while im root
[05:57] <Truman_> randoman: aha, got me, then
[05:57] <randoman> yeah
[05:57] <Truman_> StacyM: Srrsly?
[05:57] <randoman> thanks
[05:57] <pawan> hi
[05:58] <StacyM> Yes.
[05:58] <StacyM> Leave a message. I screen calls.
[05:58] <Truman_> StacyM: How can we be sure you're not a man?
[05:58] <pawan> api mismatch
[05:58] <DShepherd> !offtopic
[05:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:58] <asdf> Jack_Sparrow yea i've installed ubuntu on the SAME setup with the SAME cd when I got it in the mail from ubuntu
[05:58] <StacyM> You can hang up if a man answers after you leave a message.
[05:59] <asdf> I've installed ubuntu 3 tmes today
[05:59] <asdf> Ive yet to have network or sound
[05:59] <boyam> asdf: have you tried going into the bios and setting PNP Aware OS to No?  I've seen this cause issues with autodetect in linux
[05:59] <ThatGuy213> Alright, restarting X did not fix it - I still have no title bar/windows borders with desktop effects enabled.
[05:59] <StacyM> Peace. Call me.
[05:59] <Truman_> !offtopic > StacyM (Didn't you hear DShepherd)
[05:59] <asdf> nope I havn't let me go try that
[05:59] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: And the nic worked before.. odd...  did you change video cards?
[05:59] <Abu_Hamza> asdf: don't work hard, work smart
[05:59] <asdf> lol abu
[05:59] <asdf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards3Com
[05:59] <asdf> accourding to that its suppoesd to work automatically
[05:59] <asdf> Unless you can help me figure out why its not beeing detected, please stfu.
[06:00] <asdf> :)
[06:00] <pawan> nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-9755 but the xmodule has the version 1.0-9631
[06:00] <tritium> asdf: watch your tone, please
[06:00] <Abu_Hamza> !stfu | asdf
[06:00] <ubotu> asdf: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[06:01] <Truman_> jfgi?
[06:01] <test_> hey folks - I am trying to mount quake4 disc 2 but for some reason however i mount it only root can read it - anyone have any thoughts?
[06:01] <ThatGuy213> jfgi?
[06:01] <malocite> i'm trying to share a directory on one ubuntu machine for access on another.... but I can't figure it out, any help would be greatly appreciated
[06:01] <ThatGuy213> Alright, restarting X did not fix it - I still have no title bar/windows borders with desktop effects enabled.
[06:01] <Abu_Hamza> Truman_: jfgi == just fucking google it
[06:01] <asdf> oh my bad abu
[06:01] <Truman_> Abu_Hamza: Ah, that's a good one.
[06:01] <asdf> you can suck my dick then hose that?
[06:01] <zerokill88> how do you make a folder writable. it shows a lock on it and i cant put anything in it, i tried chmod +r+w folder to it but no change
[06:02] <DShepherd> ThatGuy213, gtk-window-decorator --replace &  #maybe that will help
[06:02] <asdf> The only PNP setting in my bios is PNP OS Installed and its set to No.
 if the another machi is linux too, you can try nfs
[06:02] <ThatGuy213> DShepherd: that just puts it back to the default mode
[06:02] <eTiger13> zerokill88: what permissions do you want? full read/write/execute?
[06:02] <pawan> pls make sure that the kernel module and all nvidia driver components have the sameversion
[06:02] <zerokill88> etiger13 yes
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> test_: I understand that is normal for quake4 to want root...  ask around it is something about that disk
[06:03] <asdf> be sweet to know who I was tlaking to
[06:03] <eTiger13> zerokill: chmod 777 foldername
[06:03] <DShepherd> ThatGuy213, hmm... have you checked the wiki?
[06:03] <eTiger13> zerokill88: you might have to sudo chmod 777 foldername
[06:03] <ThatGuy213> DShepherd: typically it just works... so nope I haven't checked it
[06:03] <pawan> failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module
[06:03] <zerokill88> etiger13 ok thanks
[06:03] <DShepherd> ThatGuy213, so it worked before?
[06:03] <asdf> Anyone else have any idea?
[06:04] <eTiger13> asdf: set that to yes
[06:04] <ThatGuy213> DShepherd: last time I had ubuntu installed on this computer, yes, I switched off to gentoo to try that for awhile, and now I'm back to ubuntu
[06:04] <zerokill88> etiger13 no didnt work
[06:04] <asdf> ok let me try tiger
[06:04] <DShepherd> ThatGuy213, I had that issue when I was using Trevin
[06:05] <DShepherd> repos to download the lastest compiz..
[06:05] <malocite> nicle: I'm working on that now..... when you add directories to the /etc/export do you have to do something else?
[06:05] <boyam> asdf: set it to Yes...
[06:05] <DShepherd> ThatGuy213, but I dont think you've gone that far.. right?
[06:05] <ThatGuy213> DShepherd: nope, I'll double check that compiz is installed, I've already gone through all the updates
[06:05] <boyam> errr...must be laggin slaightly....thanks etiger13
[06:05] <ThatGuy213> DShepherd: yup, I have compiz
[06:05] <Robert__> Does anyone in here have a Media Center Ubuntu Based machine?
 it's my export: /tftpboot/root/ *(rw,sync,insecure,no_subtree_check)
[06:06] <alecwh> !ftp
[06:06] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[06:06] <alecwh> !ftpd > alecwh
[06:07] <amonkey> how can i change a file association?
[06:07] <malocite> nicle: This is what i have in the /etc now
 after u update your export, restart the nfs service with  "/etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart"
[06:07] <malocite> /home/malocite/elisa <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>(rw)
[06:07] <DShepherd> ThatGuy213, not sure why that happens..
[06:07] <ThatGuy213> DShepherd: oh well, I can live without it, for now :)
[06:07] <asdf> Setting PNP installed OS to Yes didn't hel
[06:07] <asdf> p
[06:07] <DShepherd> http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=1631 -- ThatGuy213 you may need to add that to your xorg.conf file..
[06:08] <alecwh> What's a good FTP Deamon with a graphical frontend?
[06:08] <DShepherd> ThatGuy213, what card do you have?
[06:08] <malocite> nicle: Lets see if I did it right :)
[06:08] <eTiger13> asdf: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:08] <ThatGuy213> DShepherd: an nvidia card which is being used properly
[06:08] <asdf> 6.06
[06:08] <DShepherd> ThatGuy213, yeah.. i think you may need to add that line to your xorg.conf. restart X and see if it works this time
[06:08] <ThatGuy213> alright, brb
[06:09] <towlie_> anyone here used the ntfs fuse driver ?
[06:09] <towlie> anyone here used the ntfs fuse driver ?
[06:09] <DShepherd> yes i have tried it towlie
[06:09] <towlie> oops
[06:09] <malocite> nicle: Still says mount: <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
[06:10] <towlie_> DShepherd,  ive got a problem
[06:10] <asdf> Any other ideas?
[06:10] <alecwh> What graphical FTP Deamon is usually recommened?
[06:10] <DShepherd> towlie_, dont we all..
[06:10] <|_ocke> :(:( anyone know how i can kill/stop/close/anything Kasbar?
[06:10] <|_ocke> i cant even find out what process it is
[06:10] <towlie_> i cant mount my ntfs volume with fuse because it says the volume is dirty and i need to run chkdsk on it
[06:10] <asdf> ps -aux
[06:10] <savetheWorld> stop the Kasbah?
[06:10] <asdf> kill uid
[06:10] <ThatGuy213> DShepherd: tyvm, that did it