[12:24] <robotgeek> muyamba: press ctrl + alt + f2, log in , and type that command. you can get back to this screen by pressing ctrl + alt + f7
[12:24] <robotgeek> devwal: can u link me to the tutorial?
[12:24] <cello_rasp> fli7e: most games dont come with a free shot of heroin. i'm addicted to puzzle games for the reward of solving them.
[12:25] <devwal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94007
[12:25] <devwal> I am very confused as to how I set up the partitions on the 2nd drive if there is already data there
[12:25] <devwal> Do I install OSX on top of the existing single partition on the 2nd drive
[12:26] <fli7e> cello_rasp, likewise, but if they get too difficult i find them hard to walk away from. Just one more level.... just one more level....
[12:26] <devwal> or do I create a new partition and install OSX on that and then?
[12:26] <devwal> See my dilema?
[12:27] <robotgeek> devwal: moment to grok
[12:27] <devwal> indeed, take your time
[12:29] <robotgeek> devwal: so, are you trying to just dualboot or to dualboot on USB?
[12:29] <cello_rasp> fli7e: can i recomment alpha-centauri? it is published for linux, and while you have to pay for it , it is a very good strategy game.
[12:29] <devwal> robotgeek, i am trying to boot ubuntu from an external drive
[12:29] <devwal> that is HFS+ with data on it
[12:29] <devwal> i cannot reformat it, so i am going to make a new partition
[12:30] <devwal> but im curious if that external drive needs a copy of OSX also in order for it to boot
[12:30] <devwal> into Ubuntu
[12:30] <wckdkl0wn> what do i need to play avi and wmv videos?
[12:30] <devwal> VLC player
[12:30] <wckdkl0wn> ok
[12:30] <wckdkl0wn> ty
[12:30] <robotgeek> devwal: i know that macs support external booting, there is only one issue i see
[12:31] <fli7e> cello_rasp, nah, although i do like puzzle games, im currently looking for something free and relatively low-key.... just some mindless to keep me busy during class
[12:31] <fli7e> *something mindless
[12:31] <devwal> robotgeek: i just am being very cautious, because the drive i am partitioning has very important stuff on it
[12:31] <devwal> but i just have nowhere to back it up
[12:32] <robotgeek> devwal: hmm, how are you going to repartition? you have to resize your partition or do you have free space on it?
[12:32] <robotgeek> or an empty partition on it?
[12:32] <devwal> i have free space and a copy of iPartition
[12:32] <pakman> Can anyone help me with a problem with the Kdevelop gnome project template?  I'm getting a "missing autogen.sh" error...
[12:33] <robotgeek> devwal: okay, resize and make a nice partition.
[12:33] <wckdkl0wn> i have just installed vlc and it doesnt show the video only the sound
[12:33] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell wckdkl0wn about restrictedformats
[12:34] <devwal> robotgeek: Should this be an HFS partition
[12:34] <devwal> ?
[12:34] <robotgeek> devwal: are you booting apple from that drive? if no, i don't think so. plus, guided partitioning will take care of that
[12:35] <wckdkl0wn> anyone?
[12:35] <devwal> haha I am so freaked out
[12:35] <robotgeek> wckdkl0wn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:35] <devwal> so robotgeek : ubuntu just needs a partition to work with after you start from the CD
[12:36] <lex__> hi all. I have problem compilleing gnome2.12 with jhbuild. It's getting error ImportError: No module named libxml2. But python-xml2 is installed.
[12:36] <robotgeek> devwal: yes. there could be a possible issue
[12:37] <robotgeek> devwal: ubuntu will install and all, you might not be able to boot from it after install cause the initram (or whatever the thing is called) doesn't load scsi modules, hence not loading your hdd, hence not mounting your root ubuntu partition
[12:37] <devwal> hhahaaaaaaa I want this to work so bad
[12:38] <fli7e> what the hell just happened
[12:38] <robotgeek> fli7e: netsplit
[12:38] <fli7e> robotgeek, what?
[12:38] <fli7e> network outage?
[12:38] <robotgeek> fli7e: yup
[12:38] <fli7e> gotcha
[12:39] <robotgeek> devwal: go ahead and ipartition it, i will try to offer more input
[12:39] <devwal> Theoretically, because after installing Ubuntu Linux, I discovered that you can't boot it from a FireWire drive. I did a lot of online research, and that's a pretty consistent message.
[12:39] <devwal> ""
[12:39] <devwal> bummer
[12:40] <robotgeek> devwal: only reason is cause the modules are not in the initramfs
[12:40] <devwal> Such a bummer
[12:40] <devwal> Such a gigantic bummer
[12:40] <devwal> I want to run Ubuntu so bad
[12:40] <robotgeek> devwal: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 rejoice
[12:41] <StokesTheorem> ...
[12:41] <StokesTheorem> Wow, that is ironic.
[12:41] <fli7e> what is that command that is like top
[12:41] <StokesTheorem> devwal - you CAN do it from a FireWire.
[12:41] <fli7e> for taking a snapshot of running processes
[12:42] <robotgeek> devwal: so, it's possible, has been done, just needs a bit of work from your side :)
[12:42] <devwal> I think I know how to do it
[12:42] <dproffessa> hell
[12:42] <devwal> there is an option in startup disk that lets you pick the target drive
[12:42] <devwal> when you restart
[12:43] <fli7e> nevermind, the command is ps
[12:43] <yosef> how do i get firefox 1.5?
[12:43] <robotgeek> devwal: the issue is not with OS X, but with linux
[12:43] <robotgeek> !firefox1.5
[12:43] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:43] <brenner> fli7e: 'ps'?
[12:43] <fli7e> in terminal "ps"
[12:43] <fli7e> ps - report a snapshot of the current processes.
[12:44] <yosef> !firefox1.5
[12:44] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:44] <brenner> yeah, sorry...that was my answer...too late :)
[12:44] <Ng> sucker ;)
[12:44] <StokesTheorem> I probably just walked into something...  but devwal, are you contemplating using an external via FireWire?
[12:44] <devwal> they don'
[12:44] <devwal> they don't look so hot
[12:44] <devwal> yes Str
[12:44] <StokesTheorem> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=115164
[12:45] <devwal> StokesTheorem* excuse me
[12:45] <LoPMX> yes they do
[12:45] <StokesTheorem> I've been trying to build a boot disk for my USB external, but I've turned up a lot of research simultaniously regarding FireWire.
[12:45] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: he has a mac, he can boot directly from a firewire drive
[12:45] <StokesTheorem> There are a bunch of links to mac-specific external linux sites.
[12:45] <StokesTheorem> Oh, okay, nevermind.
[12:46] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: does the initram for ubuntu have firewire modules?
[12:46] <cello_rasp> ghm
[12:46] <fli7e> um, ive just noticed that whenever i right click a link in irc here and select "open in web browser" it opens in terminal text-based browser (w3m) instead of firefox... how do i switch it back?
[12:47] <robotgeek> devwal: i would suggest you find out the name of the firewire modules are needed by using a live cd
[12:47] <devwal> i have a live cd and an install made up
[12:47] <devwal> should i restart with the live CD?
[12:47] <devwal> and hop back in here?
[12:48] <devwal> ;)
[12:48] <StokesTheorem> I actually came in here for help with a similar matter.  If you have a chance to stick around after you've finished helping devwal, I'd appreciate it.
[12:48] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: i'm no expert here, i'm just googling :)
[12:48] <devwal> heh, we're all confused Stokes
[12:48] <devwal> welcome to the party
[12:48] <StokesTheorem> *lol*
[12:48] <devwal> I'm kind of losing it here
[12:48] <devwal> The tutorials are not enough info for me
[12:48] <StokesTheorem> Darnit, that is what I made that long-arse post up for.  At this point I have like five hours experience using Linux and I'm trying to do something crazy!
[12:49] <devwal> someone needs to write one for people who are repartitioning and using an external firewire drive :)
[12:49] <brenner> fli7e: maybe you have w3m as your default browser
[12:49] <StokesTheorem> I have been focusing on making a SUB, but like I said, there are some decent links off that site.
[12:49] <fli7e> brenner, where is that set
[12:49] <robotgeek> devwal: step 1 -> Make that partition; step 2 -> boot using Live cd and not down modules ; step 3 -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 (with firewire changes)
[12:49] <robotgeek> devwal: you make one :)
[12:50] <brenner> fli7e: sys > prefs > preferred apps
[12:50] <weekang> btw
[12:50] <StokesTheorem> God knows I stumbled across tons and tons of FireWire external discussions.  I kind of get the feeling that it is a little different from USB/non-macs.
[12:50] <weekang> does anyone know if grub can be uninstalled from the MBR?
[12:50] <robotgeek> weekang: getting rid of ubuntu, huh?
[12:50] <s_spiff>  ! FireWire
[12:50] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, s_spiff
[12:50] <s_spiff> !Firewire
[12:50] <ubotu> s_spiff: I give up, what is it?
[12:50] <brenner> weekang: do you have an xp cd handy?
[12:50] <s_spiff> crap..
[12:51] <fli7e> brenner, it was set to custom, but still referenced firefox. changing to firefox didnt solve the problem
[12:51] <robotgeek> weekang: google for fixmbr
[12:51] <brenner> fli7e: dunno.  ask in #xchat.  the folks in there are cool
[12:51] <fli7e> good idea
[12:52] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: since macs allows booting from firewire, half the problem is solved
[12:52] <devwal> robotgeek: a Linux partition?
[12:52] <weekang> does anyone know if grub can be uninstalled from the MBR?
[12:52] <devwal> Will it repartition the partition space that I am making?
[12:53] <brenner> weekang: do you have an xp cd handy?
[12:53] <robotgeek> devwal: when you repartition your drive, just format the other parition as freespace
[12:53] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm.. Does K/ubuntu not install ide-scsi for use for cdrecord, by default?
[12:54] <robotgeek> devwal: "guided partitioning" during install will take care of all the details for you, i guess
[12:54] <StokesTheorem> robotgeek:  Kind of...  But there is value in being able to boot a FireWire external on non-macs too.
[12:54] <weekang> brenner: is that necessary? the system has no cd-rom
[12:54] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: true, no harm in finding out. usb hdd's are cheaper than firewire :)
[12:55] <kerahet> hi,friends,how can i install softwares under vmware on ubuntu?
[12:56] <weekang> kerahet: try qemu instead of vmware
[12:56] <weekang> it's free
[12:56] <brenner> weekang: well i'm not sure if there's other methods besides reinstalling xp, but the usual one is to run 'fixmbr' as robotgeek suggested after you boot into rescue mode off an xp cd
[12:56] <Blippe> kerahet as you would if you didn't emulate
[12:56] <weekang> brenner: u mean i can't just use grub to uninstall itself gracefully?
[12:56] <gurek> I've tried to install amule on my ubuntu. After 'apt-get install amule' instalation stopped with error: Libwxgtk is required. I'm unable to download libwxgth 'cause it's not compatible with ubuntu at all. So iS there any way to uninstall not complete amule packets? When I try to run apt-get , i get just error on error in dependencies, and I can't do anything. Is there any way to fix it?
[12:56] <kerahet> i installed wmvare
[12:56] <weekang> brenner: thanks
[12:56] <devwal> heh new problem: how do i repartition it so i dont lose data
[12:56] <tafsen> Can I make a shortcut in gnome with the windowsbutton + (a random button) show my desktop?
[12:57] <robotgeek> tafsen: sure, Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[12:57] <devwal> uhh i feel so bad for you robotgeek -- putting up with me
[12:57] <tafsen> robotgeek: what do I type in the terminal to start that?
[12:57] <Ng> gurek: you could try "sudo dpkg -r amule"
[12:57] <robotgeek> tafsen: no terminal, all gui.
[12:57] <weekang> robotgeek: did u send me some advice just now? didn't c it cos of netsplit
[12:58] <weekang> robotgeek: thx anyway
[12:58] <robotgeek> weekang: i said, google for fixmbr
[12:58] <weekang> robotgeek: ok thx
[12:58] <kerahet> ok,where can i find softwares for vmware ubuntu
[12:58] <tafsen> yeah, but I need the command to start it from the terminal, because i don't have the menu avaible ;)
[12:58] <brenner> weekang: you can apparently use a floppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:58] <robotgeek> tafsen: gnome-panel, maybe?
[12:58] <brenner> weekang: actually, hang on.
[12:59] <brenner> weekang: sorry.  got confused. :)
[12:59] <hawking> Does anyone know what package creates /etc/X11/xkb?
[12:59] <lexhider> is azureus in the archives???
[12:59] <brenner> weekang: that's for restoring, not uninstalling
[01:00] <Blippe> kerahet you need a so called "virtual machine" http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/vm/
[01:00] <pfarmer> hawking:  try xkeyboard-config
[01:00] <StokesTheorem> robotgeek:  I'm still on my quest to make this boot disk, and stumbled across another option.  Can you tell me whether following this (brief) is suicide for a newbie?
[01:00] <Blippe> ubotu tell lexhider about azureus
[01:00] <hawking> pfermer :already did
[01:00] <Blippe> !ubotu tell lexhider about azureus
[01:00] <tafsen> robotgeek: gnome-panel is the bar you see at the top and the bottom of the screen :)
[01:00] <kerahet> is there a place where i can download programs for ubuntu
[01:01] <pfarmer> hawking:  so whats the problem?
[01:01] <pfarmer> hawking:  xkeyboard-config puts files in /etc/X11/xkb
[01:01] <hawking> pfarmer :Iwant to change the keyboard layout with setxkbmap and Iget this error : Error loading new keyboard description
[01:01] <hawking> Iam lost
[01:01] <hawking> Itried many things doesn'T work
[01:02] <kerahet> is there a place where i can download programs for ubuntu,a fev links
[01:02] <hawking> any ideas pfarmer?
[01:02] <robotgeek> tafsen: just type gnome-keybinding-properties
[01:02] <Blippe> kerahet you use synaptic in ubuntu
[01:03] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: ask away
[01:03] <Blippe> !ubotu tell kerahet about synaptic
[01:03] <Blippe> !ubotu tell kerahet about repos
[01:03] <kerahet> ok,thx
[01:04] <pfarmer> hawking: do the files exist?
[01:04] <Blippe> !ubotu tell kerahet about easysource
[01:04] <hawking> pfarmer yeah there are some files in /etc/X11/xkb
[01:04] <StokesTheorem> robotgeek:  Is http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t269145.html suicide for a newbie?  Specifically, can I get away with not having to compile anything (specifically a kernel).
[01:04] <s_spiff>  /nick s_spiff{AWAY}
[01:04] <pfarmer> hawking: can you pastebin the full command and full output
[01:05] <eth42> does anyone know what "R/W multiple sector transfer" in "hdparm -I /dev/hda" means?
[01:05] <hawking> pfarmer -->setxkbmap tr  Error loading new keyboard description that's it
[01:06] <Set> !ubouto tell #ubuntu about rpm
[01:06] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Set
[01:06] <hawking> !ubotu tell thespiritoftal about xlibs
[01:07] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: interesting, lemme grok
[01:08] <skeff> I get an error "libawt.so: libXp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to install a program. But in /usr/lib, behold! /usr/lib/libXp.so.6 -> libXp.so.6.2.1            Why is there a problem finding it?
[01:09] <Set> !ubouto tell #ubuntu about deb
[01:09] <ubotu> Set: Are you on ritalin?
[01:09] <StokesTheorem> robotgeek:  I'm gonna try working on this a little for the moment.  Where would I find these "modules"?
[01:09] <Raskall> is it safe to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[01:09] <pfarmer> hawking: have you tried setting the keyboard map with "System -> Preferences -> Keyboard"
[01:10] <kerahet> help,i can not install wmvare tools
[01:10] <robotgeek> Raskall: it's stable, but if you *need* that machine, stay away
[01:10] <devwal> robotgeek: here goes nothing
[01:10] <Raskall> robotgeek: :) it's just my private laptop.
[01:10] <devwal> wish me luck
[01:10] <pfarmer> hawking: and is tr the correct name?
[01:10] <StokesTheorem> devwal:  Good Luck.
[01:11] <robotgeek> devwal: good luck, and *document* everything :)
[01:11] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ! beep Media Player
[01:11] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, s_spiff{AWAY}
[01:11] <Raskall> robotgeek: so I'll go for it. :)
[01:11] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ! beep
[01:11] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, s_spiff{AWAY}
[01:11] <robotgeek> Raskall: yes, i did too
[01:11] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ! BMP
[01:11] <ubotu> from memory, bmp is a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer
[01:11] <StokesTheorem> Remember, if all else fails violence typically does the trick in fixing any sort of technical problem.,
[01:12] <hawking> pfarmer :yes
[01:12] <Raskall> robotgeek: I have always installed the next release a couple of months early before. Can't do any worse now, can I? :)
[01:12] <pfarmer> hawking: ok so do you have /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/tr ?
[01:12] <hawking> lemme see
[01:13] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: you basically following a procedure like a pxe-install, you could even manage with a floppy i think
[01:13] <rendi> help
[01:13] <robotgeek> Raskall: :)
[01:13] <rendi> help
[01:13] <rendi> # /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[01:13] <rendi> Starting apache 2.0 web server...apache2: bad user name www-data
[01:13] <rendi>  failed!
[01:13] <hawking> pfarmer:Id
[01:13] <hawking> pfarmer:Ido
[01:13] <robotgeek> rendi: don't paste in here
[01:13] <StokesTheorem> Raskall: I'm very new, so that could be a part of it, but I initially tried the Dapper Drake flight CD 2.  I turned it on after a few days and let it "upgrade", at which point it froze whenever trying to go into gnome.
[01:13] <Raskall> robotgeek: but I will wait upgrading my server. :) my 50+ users might be angry if things break (even though they don't pay anything for using it)
[01:13] <rendi> can help me
[01:13] <rendi> i have del www-data
[01:13] <rendi> and i wann it back
[01:13] <rotem> can someone help me with mysql i keep getting Access denied for user: 'mysql@localhost'
[01:14] <pfarmer> hawking: then setxkbmap tr should work ok
[01:14] <hawking> pfarmer :it DOESN'T
[01:14] <robotgeek> rendi: sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2
[01:14] <StokesTheorem> robotgeek:  I have no idea what a pxe-install is.  I take it what you just said is a good thing, though.
[01:15] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: basically for a netboot, you install a linux kernel with your ethernet card drivers, boot of it and retrieve the packages from the network. havent gotten it to work yet :)
[01:16] <StokesTheorem> robotgeek:  *lol*  There are already a ton of generic pre-made boot disks to do precisely that.
[01:17] <StokesTheorem> robotgeek:  Right now I've managed to mount initrd, and am able to "look ardound" and tweak things.  I''m supposed to "replace the modules".  Any suggestions?
[01:17] <pfarmer> hawking: can you set the keymap to gb ok? or to us ok?
[01:18] <rendi> wooooooooooooot
[01:18] <rendi> still wrong
[01:18] <rendi> kapolri:/home/admin# /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[01:18] <rendi> Starting apache 2.0 web server...apache2: bad user name www-data
[01:18] <rendi>  failed!
[01:19] <Xenguy> pf
[01:19] <rendi> my boss will kill me
[01:19] <Xenguy> sorry
[01:19] <Raskall> StokesTheorem: have gotten gnome to work again?
[01:20] <pfarmer> hawking: did you upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10?
[01:20] <pfarmer> hawking: or did you install 5.10 fresh?
[01:20] <StokesTheorem> Raskall:  Using Breezy now.  :)
[01:20] <tafsen> Is there a way that I can get php files to be displayed at the same way as an html file?
[01:20] <Steve^> woo, another live cd to repartition my drive, think I'll use a CD-RW this time
[01:20] <StokesTheorem> Raskall:  Barely had had a chance to play when I had to reinstall, so nothing lost.
[01:21] <Raskall> StokesTheorem: ok.. :) I cross my fingers that it will work now.
[01:21] <Raskall> ahh.. I just love my 4 mbit dsl line. :)
[01:22] <StokesTheorem> Raskall:  Maybe just create another partition for it and then share the swap file?
[01:22] <|nee-chan|> ?
[01:22] <|nee-chan|> ?
[01:22] <StokesTheorem> Raskall:  Maybe even share the /home partition, although no doubt the Ubuntu gods just shook their fists at me.
[01:23] <Raskall> StokesTheorem: nah.. I already have 3 operating systems installed. I am competent enough to get things working again. (been using linux since -93)
[01:24] <drcode> any one know if there is VOD server in linux and windows from Open SOurce?
[01:24] <Raskall> StokesTheorem: I am not afraid of my data when doing "apt-get upgrade". I'm not installing from cd.
[01:24] <brenner> what version of xchat does breezy ship with?
[01:24] <Raskall> StokesTheorem: just replace "breezy" with "dapper" in /etc/apt/sources.list and "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade"
[01:25] <topyli> Raskall: worst that can happen is different versions of apps will barf, having to share incompatible config files
[01:26] <robotgeek> Raskall: dist-upgrade
[01:26] <Raskall> topyli: I know. :) Have done this with both hoary and breezy before. The original install on this laptop was actually a warty :)
[01:27] <devwal> robotgeek: It is not recognizing my live cd for some reason
[01:27] <Guard] [an> hi
[01:27] <robotgeek> devwal: hmm, maybe reburn at lower speeds?
[01:28] <Raskall> robotgeek: of course.. just a typo. :)
[01:28] <devwal> ya, trying burning it in a different app
[01:28] <devwal> 6:30am
[01:28] <robotgeek> devwal: verify the md5sum
[01:28] <devwal> typical
[01:28] <robotgeek> devwal: damn, same timezone!
[01:28] <devwal> WI
[01:28] <devwal> you?
[01:28] <nalioth> ubotu: tell devwal about verify
[01:28] <nalioth> robotgeek: he's freeezin
[01:29] <robotgeek> Raskall: heh :)
[01:29] <robotgeek> devwal: TX
[01:29] <devwal> everything is big there
[01:29] <devwal> :)
[01:29] <devwal> I drive a Honda Civic -- just about everything in TX would run me over
[01:30] <robotgeek> devwal: i think we are leaning towards offtopic talk :)
[01:30] <topyli> devwal: yeah, their civics would crash your civic
[01:30] <Guard] [an> i updated the system, now libcairo is marked as to be upgraded and xchat and sylpheed have been removed
[01:30] <devwal> Well my Honda Civic is much like Ubuntu in that..
[01:30] <devwal> ;)
[01:30] <Guard] [an> anyone having problems with libcairo ???
[01:31] <KeithWeisshar> how many software packages does ubuntu include?
[01:31] <nalioth> devwal: you're welcome to discuss Texas and civics (and civets) in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:31] <KeithWeisshar> debian incluses 8250
[01:31] <devwal> nalioth: was kidding, im done
[01:32] <robotgeek> KeithWeisshar: i thought the count was close to 17000?
[01:32] <Guard] [an> now if i want to install xchat back it complains: "depends: libcairo2(>=1.0.2-2) but 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed depends: libssl0.9.8 (>=0.9.8a1) but is not installable
[01:32] <Guard] [an> etc...
[01:32] <robotgeek> Guard] [an: did you install any packages from debian?
[01:32] <Guard] [an> any idea please ?
[01:33] <KeithWeisshar> dues ubuntu have more or fewer packages than debian?
[01:33] <ogra> KeithWeisshar, more
[01:34] <ogra> KeithWeisshar, its over 17000 currently
[01:35] <sorsap> KeithWeisshar: but as far as i understand, because ubuntu uses much of debian packages, and many of those are not compliant with ubuntu you can't really compare the amount
[01:36] <ogra> sorsap, sure you can ... we sync all available debian packages from debian ... additionally all the stuff from apt-get.org and some other sources like wine from winehq etc
[01:36] <ogra> so it *must* be slightly more packages ...
[01:36] <Ng> Guard] [an: at a guess I'd say something is wrong with your apt sources - xchat in breezy depends on libssl 0.9.7 and libcairo2 1.0.0
[01:36] <Belutz> hi ogra, are you joining the ubuntu asian tours?
[01:37] <ogra> Belutz, heh, nope, i have to prepare for feature freeze ...
[01:37] <Belutz> ogra, ah i see
[01:38] <ogra> Belutz, mark does it mostly alone iirc ...
[01:38] <eyedol59> hello to everyone!
[01:39] <eyedol59> i am having problems in nautilus when i try to burn a cd, could anybody help me please?
[01:40] <Belutz> ogra, i see, i heard there will be 6 people coming to jakarta
[01:40] <nalioth> eyedol59: use k3b (it's worth the kde libs it depends on)
[01:40] <ogra> Belutz, ah, i'm not involved in the planning ...
[01:40] <ogra> eyedol59, whats your problem ?
[01:41] <Belutz> ogra, ah i see, i hope they also discuss about edubuntu
[01:42] <eyedol59> when i give nautilus the order to burn the cd he says to me: "File image creation failed"
[01:42] <rambo3> !java
[01:42] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:42] <ogra> Belutz, they surely will talk about it ... but i think its not the main focus .... ask a lot of questions about edubuntu and i'll have to be there next time ;)
[01:42] <Belutz> ogra, ok :)
[01:43] <eyedol59> when i give nautilus the order to burn the cd he says to me: "File image creation failed"o
[01:43] <ogra> eyedol59, check that you have enough temp space to actually build an iso
[01:43] <robotgeek_zzz> devwal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29837
[01:43] <eyedol59> temp space?
[01:44] <ogra> eyedol59, yes, the image is created in /tmp before it gets written
[01:44] <ogra> eyedol59, you can override this for nautilus-cd-burner in the gconf-editor
[01:45] <eyedol59> mm , so you are sugesting that because my /temp is full, the nautilus is unable to bur the cd, ok i will try right know....
[01:46] <MERT> #debian.tr
[01:46] <linzhizhao> lumaqqubuntu.org.cnlumaqq
[01:46] <xukun> if I try to listen internet radio then I get "Totem could not play 'fd://0'. There is no plugin to handle this movie." Any idea?
[01:46] <LoRe> is there an equivalent to debian-testing in ubuntu?
[01:46] <_jason> xukun, try mplayer or vlc instead
[01:46] <ogra> LoRe, nope
[01:47] <ogra> LoRe, would make no sense with qa 6month release cycle to additionally have testing
[01:47] <onkarshinde> xukun: try streamtuner
[01:47] <ogra> s/qa/a/
[01:47] <xukun> thanks guys
[01:47] <j2daosh> ok
[01:48] <j2daosh> i got a probelm... well several
[01:48] <j2daosh> one my sound aint working no more... 2 i dont have the ability to sudo
[01:48] <j2daosh> 3 i cant get into the user/groups to change my permissions
[01:48] <eyedol59> i have already deleted the /tmp but he stills gives me the same error, any ideas?
[01:49] <_jason> j2daosh, let's try the sudo problem.  What happens when you try to sudo?
[01:49] <j2daosh> i can do a su though.... and my other account has sound
[01:49] <j2daosh> nothing
[01:49] <j2daosh> gives me a prompt like i just hit enter on a blank line
[01:49] <_jason> j2daosh, is this the first account you created (during install)
[01:49] <j2daosh> yes
[01:49] <xukun> onkarshinde, streamtuner is already installed
[01:50] <onkarshinde> what station are you trying to play?
[01:50] <j2daosh> i think the sound has something to do with timidy maybe... but i cant get into my groups and everything to figure it out
[01:50] <j2daosh> lemme check what groups im in
[01:50] <j2daosh> im in the sudo group
[01:50] <j2daosh> ...
[01:50] <j2daosh> im gonna remove myself from all the groups
[01:51] <xukun> www.nederland.fm and when I go to this website then it displays that error
[01:51] <eyedol59> i am having problems in nautilus when i try to burn a cd, could anybody help me please?
[01:51] <tafsen> what's the difrence from 586 and 686?
[01:51] <xukun> onkarshinde, even before I can choose one
[01:51] <j2daosh> ha
[01:51] <j2daosh> figured that one out
[01:52] <j2daosh> needed to add myself to admin group because i got deleted out of there somehow
[01:52] <_jason> j2daosh, yeah, are you in audio group?
[01:52] <j2daosh> ok... next lets do the sound thing...?
[01:52] <j2daosh> nope
[01:52] <j2daosh> lol
[01:52] <onkarshinde> xukun: it seems it provides streams in some proprietry format
[01:52] <j2daosh> lemme add
[01:52] <_jason> j2daosh, lol easy :)
[01:52] <_jason> (hopefully)
[01:52] <j2daosh> nope
[01:52] <j2daosh> no device found
[01:52] <j2daosh> maybe i have to restart before that change takes affect
[01:53] <_jason> j2daosh, maybe, give it a try
[01:53] <eyedol59> i am having problems in nautilus when i try to burn a cd, could anybody help me please?
[01:54] <j2daosh> ok... brb
[01:55] <umberto> ciao
[01:55] <umberto> c'e nessuno
[01:55] <_jason> umberto, italiano?
[01:55] <eyedol59> i am having trouble burning a cd with nautilus, could anybody help me please?
[01:55] <kchandran> lk;lk;lkkl
[01:55] <kchandran> kijlkijkljk
[01:55] <kchandran> ioioiio
[01:56] <_jason> !it
[01:56] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:56] <kchandran> testing
[01:57] <ulaas> !tr
[01:57] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ulaas
[01:57] <ELGIMIKERO> s
[01:58] <lowman62> g'mornin/aft'noon/g'evenin tech support room :)
[01:58] <_jason> ulaas, are you able to create a message informing users of the #ubuntu.tr channel in Turkish?
[01:59] <ulaas> _jason, no. and i only wanted to check if someone did.
[02:00] <_jason> ubotu, tr is <reply> /j #ubuntu.tr
[02:00] <ubotu> _jason: okay
[02:00] <_jason> ulaas, better than nothing I guess
[02:00] <ulaas> #ubuntu.tr
[02:01] <ulaas> _jason, thats nice! thanx
[02:01] <_jason> ulaas, do you speak turkish?
[02:01] <ulaas> _jason, well sure.
[02:03] <_jason> ulaas, You can write a short sentence in Turkish informing people that they can get help in Turkish in #ubuntu.tr and I'll add it to ubotu if you want :)
[02:04] <ulaas> _jason, ok here it goes.
[02:04] <eyedol59> i am having trouble burning a cd with nautilus, could anybody help me please?
[02:04] <olicat> we've got a main network here which is on 192.168.101.*, and a smaller testing one on 10.10.10.* - any ideas how i can get to the 10.* network from the other one?
[02:05] <FaithX> olicat: route
[02:05] <olicat> FaithX, how does that wokr?
[02:05] <j2daosh> well it worked jason lol
[02:06] <FaithX> do you have a linux box with a nic on both nets?
[02:06] <_jason> j2daosh, great
[02:06] <j2daosh> that was easy fixes :) and in the process i became a sudoer and not dont need to sudo :)
[02:06] <cleo> whats the best way to encrypt a whole partition?
[02:06] <j2daosh> nevermind... still gotta sudo
[02:06] <j2daosh> :(
[02:06] <j2daosh> oh well
[02:06] <ulaas> _jason, "Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu.tr hizmetinizde."
[02:07] <_jason> ubotu, no tr is <reply> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu.tr hizmetinizde.
[02:07] <ubotu> okay, _jason
[02:07] <_jason> !tr
[02:07] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu.tr hizmetinizde.
[02:07] <FaithX> olicat: do you have a linux box with a nic on both nets?
[02:07] <ulaas> works, great
[02:07] <_jason> ulaas, thanks
[02:07] <Micksa> hi, is there a way to get an ubuntu box to automaticall suspend if the battery charge goes below a certain level?
[02:08] <KeithWeisshar> is it worth the time to create a new ubuntu dvd when a new version of ubuntu is released
[02:08] <KeithWeisshar> download
[02:08] <ulaas> _jason, thanx to you.
[02:08] <olicat> FaithX, no, the nic goes to another machine
[02:08] <_jason> KeithWeisshar, no, just upgrade with apt-get
[02:08] <FaithX> olicat: you need a router between both networks
[02:09] <Belutz> where's the file setting for network profile created by network-admin?
[02:09] <olicat> i see thanks
[02:09] <j2daosh> where can i get new "themes"?
[02:09] <lowman62> does anyone know where I can get the Gecko SDK? opera is a pain
[02:09] <_jason> KeithWeisshar, are you considering upgrading to breezy, or were you just looking for some info?
[02:10] <j2daosh> whats up jenda
[02:10] <brenner> j2daosh: gnome-look.org
[02:10] <jenda> hey j2daosh...
[02:10] <j2daosh> hows it going ole buddy ole pal
[02:10] <wckdkl0wn> does ubuntu come with java already installed?? i am thinkin about setting it up on my moms and she plays a lot on pogo
[02:11] <j2daosh> ahh... how very true
[02:11] <_jason> ubotu, tell j2daosh about themes
[02:11] <j2daosh> so i can get themes from gnome-look eh?
[02:11] <brenner> wckdkl0wn: no
[02:11] <_jason> ubotu, tell wckdkl0wn about java
[02:13] <wckdkl0wn> why does everyone always wanna redirect u to some place else instead of just a straight answer?
[02:13] <wckdkl0wn> brenner, ty
[02:14] <_jason> wckdkl0wn, I was jsut letting you know where you can get java.  Makes no sense to repeat the same info over and over :)
[02:15] <wckdkl0wn> _jason, i havent installed the os yet lol jsut wanted to find out yes or no before i installed
[02:15] <KeithWeisshar> why am i only getting 150kb/sec when downloading the ubuntu dvd, i'm connected at 3000kbps with dsl
[02:15] <KeithWeisshar> i'm using bittorrent 4.22
[02:15] <_jason> wckdkl0wn, ah ok
[02:15] <wckdkl0wn> 3000kps with dsl??
[02:15] <brenner> wckdkl0wn: i was just being lazy actually. :P  and _jason had your best intentions at heart
[02:16] <wckdkl0wn> yea i know but i just seem to get a lot of redirects thats all
[02:16] <wckdkl0wn> and that one just tipped me over the edge so i had to say something about it
[02:16] <nalioth_zZz> wckdkl0wn: tje
[02:16] <nalioth_zZz> wckdkl0wn: the 'redirects' are to wiki articles to help you
[02:17] <wckdkl0wn> nvm
[02:17] <wckdkl0wn> lol
[02:17] <j2daosh> ok i installed a theme but its not showing up in my themes manager... why?
[02:17] <day_cho> woi
[02:18] <_jason> j2daosh, some themes you download actually contain multiple files inside (the actual theme, some icons, some info).  Can you check if that's the case for your theme?
[02:18] <j2daosh> it is
[02:18] <brenner> j2daosh: was it a true theme?  or just a window border etc.
[02:18] <muzik> heyas
[02:18] <j2daosh> how do i get it to install and apply all those icons/backgrounds/ etc?
[02:19] <muzik> whats the easiest way to get avidemux installed on ubuntu??
[02:19] <j2daosh> mediacity theme
[02:19] <rob^^^> vorlon: do you have the skinny on where php5-mcrypt got voted off the island?
[02:19] <j2daosh> metacity theme
[02:19] <_jason> j2daosh, Can you link to the theme?
[02:19] <muzik> whats the easiest way to get avidemux installed on ubuntu??
[02:20] <brenner> j2daosh: does it show up in theme details?
[02:20] <j2daosh> nope... but it installed to the theme folder
[02:20] <KeithWeisshar> why does the dvd take a really long time to download
[02:21] <KeithWeisshar> it's 3.6gb
[02:21] <KeithWeisshar> is it more than just combined live and install cd
[02:21] <_jason> j2daosh, try dragging the file directly into the "theme details" window
[02:21] <muzik> whats that program that installs all codecs and java and stuff?
[02:22] <muzik> sounds like avidemux
[02:22] <day_cho> sepi
[02:22] <_jason> !easyubuntu
[02:22] <ubotu> I guess easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives.   Could always be the theme.  Do you have a link to the page?
[02:23] <Friar> Hi... how to I make Wan0 activate at boot time?
[02:24] <_jason> j2daosh, what do you mean 'everything'?  It's just the file you download.  Same thing as clicking install and then finding it.
[02:24] <brenner> j2daosh: no.  'install theme' button should work fine...so it doesn't show up in theme details > window border tab?
[02:24] <j2daosh> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/download.php?content=33585&id=1
[02:24] <j2daosh> nope...
[02:24] <j2daosh> when i click install it installs... then it tells me to select from details
[02:24] <j2daosh> but its not in my details
[02:24] <j2daosh> i have to actually go to a folder
[02:24] <j2daosh> but i get no options for it in the theme manager
[02:25] <brenner> j2daosh: do you have a url for the details page?
[02:25] <j2daosh> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=33585
[02:27] <brenner> j2daosh: you shouldn't need to uncompress
[02:27] <j2daosh> i didn't... i installed the tar
[02:27] <j2daosh> brb gotta take son to school
[02:28] <_jason> j2daosh, it just installed fine for me.  All I did was drag it straight into theme preferences.  It shows up in theme details-> window border like brenner was saying
[02:28] <VR^> hey all, how do I install a mouse (cursor) theme?
[02:29] <Katie^> I got my new phone yesterday, how do I install the software? Will wine work?
[02:30] <brenner> VR^: i'm guessing here.... sys > pref > mouse > cursor ... then drag and drop the theme archive
[02:30] <VR^> brenner: tried that, didn't work
[02:30] <xiaogil> When I try the address localhost or ubuntu in firefox, it opens http://p2p.cs.mu.oz.au/software/Localhost/ instead of my local site, why ? How to repair that ?
[02:32] <Katie^> please guys i need some help :(
[02:32] <Steve^> Yay, Ubuntu is installed!
[02:32] <_jason> xiaogil, does <IP_ADDRESS> work?
[02:33] <C-O-L-T> how to install image magick?
[02:33] <Steve^> and the internet worked out the box, which is nice
[02:33] <Katie^> Fatal Error : windows 9x systems not supported by software
[02:33] <Katie^> help./
[02:34] <alvar> !linux
[02:34] <ubotu> hmm... linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[02:34] <Guard] [an> re, i have still my pb. i updated using the update manager. the result is --> xchat, sylpheed and others (don't remember) programs got removed, and i cannot install them back. what should i do ?
[02:34] <brenner> C-O-L-T: install the imagemagick package
[02:34] <brenner> Katie^: what app?
[02:34] <C-O-L-T> brenner: is it in repos?
[02:34] <brenner> C-O-L-T: main
[02:35] <Katie^> it's a disc2phone thng
[02:35] <C-O-L-T> brenner: ok
[02:35] <xiaogil> _jason: yes! but why ?
[02:35] <Katie^> so I can put mp3s on my mobile
[02:35] <Katie^> oh, wine
[02:35] <alvar> !info xchat
[02:35] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 240 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[02:35] <_jason> xiaogil, what version of firefox are you using.  'localhost' seems to work here on 1.5, but I suspect yours is doing an "I'm feeling luck search" on google and going to that page.
[02:36] <rob^^^> when building php5 I was getting errors when I did just dpkg-buildpackage so I ran ./debian/rules/build-apache2-stamp, am I barking up the wrong tree
[02:36] <xiaogil> _jason: yes, it looks to be using google
[02:36] <_jason> xiaogil, what version are you using of firefox? 1.07?
[02:36] <xiaogil> _jason: firefox 1.0.7
[02:37] <Katie^> is there a new edition of wine
[02:37] <j2daosh> ok im back
[02:37] <j2daosh> now what were we talking about with the themes? just drag the tar file into the themes window and it installs?
[02:37] <_jason> xiaogil, yeah they probably updated it to recognize localhost as the actual localhost instead of a search.  That's my guess anyway, I've always used <IP_ADDRESS> so I'm not sure if that's really the case or if there is a setting somewhere.
[02:38] <j2daosh> it doesn't install to my icons or controls though
[02:38] <j2daosh> ?
[02:39] <Guard] [an> i installed xubuntu on my laptop following the wiki, it says "install ubuntu in server mode", what do i need to add to have laptop support ???
[02:39] <_jason> j2daosh, you got the window border though?  that's all that theme provides I believe
[02:39] <j2daosh> well that sucks
[02:39] <j2daosh>  :(
[02:40] <xiaogil> _jason: also, I have got a msg from gnome (at the boot of gnome) which tells me to add ubuntu to /etc/hosts, It doesn't do it automatically, what is the line to add to this file ?
[02:41] <_jason> xiaogil, that may be part of the problem then
[02:41] <VR^> brenner: i figured it out. you drop the theme file in sys > pref > theme , then you go to sys > pref > mouse > cursor and select it there
[02:41] <_jason> xiaogil, I'll post what mine looks like so you can see.  To edit it: sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[02:41] <brenner> VR^: ah, ok.  thanks for the info
[02:42] <brenner> j2daosh: don't you just hate false advertising? :)
[02:42] <j2daosh> lol yeah
[02:43] <_jason> xiaogil, here is what the first line of mine looks like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6995
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[02:44] <brenner> j2daosh: most, if not all of the themes i've seen are modular
[02:44] <lukus001> Can someone forward me to where firefox keep it's book marks & evolutions e-mails so i can back them up?
[02:44] <j2daosh> say wha?
[02:45] <xiaogil> _jason: could you explain the syntax ? Does it mean that the 3 adresses after the first one are links to the first one ?
[02:45] <brenner> j2daosh: they're seperate. i.e. window border theme only, icon theme only
[02:45] <_jason> lukus001, firefox bookmarks: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*default/bookmarks.html
[02:45] <j2daosh> oh that sucks...
[02:46] <Katie^> how do i find out what edition of wine i have
[02:46] <_jason> xiaogil, yep, 'man hosts'
[02:46] <xiaogil> _jason: thanks a lot
[02:46] <brenner> j2daosh: personally, i think it's better...you can mix and match...
[02:46] <j2daosh> Katie^, do sudo apt-get install wine
[02:46] <lukus001> _jason: thank you
[02:46] <Katie^> yep, did that, says i have the latest edition
[02:46] <brenner> j2daosh: leave a comment if you wish asking what icon theme etc. he used
[02:46] <j2daosh> if it installs something urs was outdated
[02:46] <Katie^> version**
[02:47] <Katie^> does that mean there's no way to install this software then?
[02:47] <j2daosh> if you already have it... its already installed
[02:47] <HCl> weee :) hibernate in breezy with proprietary nvidia drivers works :)
[02:47] <wckdkl0wn> Katie^, try wines site for the latest version... the ubuntu repositories doesnt have the latest
[02:47] <Katie^> I want to install some software I got with my phone yesterday, when I try and install it with wine, it says it's not supported with windows 0x
[02:47] <aeon17x> HCl: we can hibernate? *checks*
[02:47] <aeon17x> Whoa.
[02:47] <Katie^> *9x
[02:48] <aeon17x> There IS an option.
[02:48] <mustard5> Katie^, you can set wine to make the application think that it is XP
[02:48] <j2daosh> lemme look at my wine
[02:48] <Katie^> oh how do I do that?
[02:48] <j2daosh> wine-cfg
[02:48] <KeithWeisshar> is it worth the hours to redownload a new ubuntu dvd every 6 months
[02:48] <mustard5> Katie^, try this winecfg
[02:48] <nanaem> hi, i'm kinda new to ubuntu, got a question about harddisc. i've put another disc in, formated it with Gparted to ext3. but it does not show up in nautilus. do i have to mount it somehow since ubuntu don't find it?
[02:49] <_jason> KeithWeisshar, no, update with apt-get instead
[02:49] <wckdkl0wn> KeithWeisshar, why not jsut update what u have?
[02:49] <Katie^> erm then what, lol
[02:49] <mustard5> then try installing again
[02:49] <mustard5> after you set wine to be windows NT
[02:49] <Katie^> oh i see
[02:49] <Katie^> thanks
[02:50] <mustard5> Katie^, I'm not that sure what you would be seeing on your screen :)
[02:50] <KeithWeisshar> does ubuntu allow upgrading openoffice to 2.0.1
[02:50] <Katie^> Yay!!!
[02:50] <mustard5> Katie^, obviously it installed...hopefully it runs too :)
[02:50] <Katie^> it's ok, I completely didn't see the part that says windows version
[02:50] <Katie^> lol
[02:51] <Katie^> Ms windows isntaller service? What's that?
[02:51] <mustard5> Katie^, its a windows installer
[02:51] <KeithWeisshar> do i need to changes the repositories in order to upgrade to 6.0.4
[02:51] <j2daosh> oh hell yes
[02:52] <j2daosh> :) woot woot... now my comp looks nice :) me so happy lol
[02:52] <Katie^> so how do i get that?
[02:52] <Katie^> lol
[02:52] <mustard5> Katie^, did you get an error concerning that?
[02:52] <Katie^> yes
[02:52] <Katie^> I need to have it before it'll continue with disc2phone
[02:52] <j2daosh> if you got an error for that i think ur sol
[02:52] <mustard5> Katie^, hmm..k..let me look at my wine
[02:52] <_jason> KeithWeisshar, are you going to be developing dapper?
[02:52] <KeithWeisshar> no
[02:52] <osfameron> how do I see which packages I've got installed?
[02:53] <osfameron> ($boss doing a software audit)
[02:53] <_jason> KeithWeisshar, I wouldn't recommend upgrading to it then.  It will break often while it is being developed
[02:53] <Katie^> http://tinypic.com/k359g2.png
[02:53] <KeithWeisshar> do i need to edit the config when a new final version is released
[02:53] <mustard5> Katie^, have you ever installed wine-tools ?
[02:53] <Katie^> i dont think so
[02:53] <mustard5> Katie^, how did you install wine?
[02:54] <mustard5> Katie^, from synaptic?
[02:54] <Katie^> i thought it was already here? lol
[02:54] <_jason> KeithWeisshar, you can read how to upgrade to breezy to see how to upgrade versions
[02:54] <_jason> ubotu, tell KeithWeisshar about breezy
[02:54] <Katie^> ive only been on ubuntu about 4 days
[02:54] <Katie^> lol
[02:54] <mustard5> Katie^,
[02:54] <Katie^> should i do sudo apt-get install wine-tools
[02:54] <mustard5> k
[02:54] <Katie^> 't find package wine-tools
[02:54] <mustard5> Katie^, k
[02:54] <mustard5> Katie^, I'm curious how wine was installed
[02:54] <eth42> i noticed that timing buffered disk reads (hdparm -t) are comparatively low if I'm logged into gnome. why is that so?
[02:55] <Katie^> anyway i can find out
[02:55] <j2daosh> winetools katie
[02:55] <Katie^> lol
[02:55] <Katie^> ty
[02:55] <mustard5> j2daosh, ah ok
[02:55] <Katie^> ok that's installing
[02:55] <mustard5> j2daosh, its just one word?
[02:55] <j2daosh> yep
[02:55] <mustard5> k
[02:55] <mustard5> I'm not that good on wine myself :)
[02:55] <osfameron> dpkg --get-selections!
[02:55] <Katie^> ok
[02:56] <Katie^> so now what, that's installed
[02:56] <j2daosh> lol i know the feeling... when i need windows i just restart into windows :)
[02:56] <mustard5> Katie^, type winetools in console
[02:56] <Davey`> wine update this morning, wonder if that'll let me run some newer apps :)
[02:56] <j2daosh> now try running your installer again and see what happens
[02:56] <mustard5> j2daosh, I think Katie^ would need to get winetools to install the base system
[02:57] <j2daosh> Katie^, do sudo apt-get install winetools
[02:57] <Katie^> oh yeah, ive done that
[02:57] <j2daosh> then once it is installed... type winetools
[02:57] <j2daosh> ok
[02:57] <mustard5> Katie^, you go through the installation steps that winetools presents you with..one by one
[02:57] <Katie^> im at the basesetup
[02:57] <j2daosh> install new windows system
[02:57] <mustard5> Katie^, install it all starting from the base setup..step by step
[02:58] <mustard5> Katie^, part of that installation should be the MSI installer
[02:58] <mustard5> Katie^, it should install all the things you need *fingers crossed*
[02:58] <Katie^> do you mean
[02:58] <Katie^> install windows system software right?
[02:58] <Merit> hi
[02:58] <j2daosh> it will be... once she gets all the errors about the fake drive it will take her to a screen with windows installer
[02:58] <mustard5> Katie^, yes
[02:59] <j2daosh> the second from the top in wine tools
[02:59] <Katie^> gave me tonnes of errors "IE, d...exe"
[03:00] <j2daosh> lol sorry Katie^
[03:00] <mustard5> Katie^, did you start from the first one and do each step one at a time?
[03:00] <j2daosh> u have to do the base setup first
[03:00] <j2daosh> i was skipping
[03:00] <Katie^> oh
[03:00] <j2daosh> do base setup for fake.. then the d and so on and so forth... then go to the installer part later
[03:00] <Katie^> do i create or update?
[03:00] <j2daosh> create
[03:02] <cello_rasp> how do i access foreign samba shares from bash?
[03:02] <Katie^> ok
[03:02] <Katie^> so do i go down the entire list
[03:02] <guillem101> cello_rasp, smbclient -L host
[03:02] <Katie^> of fonts dcom...foundation classics?
[03:02] <guillem101> cello_rasp, smbclient -U user -L host
[03:03] <j2daosh> ok... what the hell is drm?
[03:03] <cello_rasp> digital rights mechanism?
[03:03] <j2daosh> ive seen it before but i dont remember now
[03:04] <cello_rasp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRM
[03:04] <_jason> j2daosh, 'digital rights management'  -- basically copy protection.  Search wikipedia for more info
[03:04] <guillem101> cello_rasp, also, mc may be a valuable tool from bash: cd /#smb:user@machine/dir
[03:04] <eldamito> Hello...
[03:05] <j2daosh> great
[03:05] <j2daosh> well it is killing my terminal whatever it is
[03:05] <cello_rasp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRM
[03:05] <_jason> j2daosh, hrmm it probably isn't digital rights management then
[03:05] <TTilus> digital restrictions management
[03:05] <j2daosh> well i killed whatever it was
[03:06] <Katie^> dum de dum
[03:06] <_jason> j2daosh, I guess that works
[03:06] <j2daosh> lol ive blued out my computer lol
[03:06] <j2daosh> can anyone guess what my favorite color is? lol
[03:06] <Katie^> red
[03:07] <TTilus> j2daosh: bsod?
[03:08] <j2daosh> lol
[03:08] <j2daosh> yep
[03:08] <Katie^> okay, windows installer installed
[03:08] <Katie^> do i need to carry on with everyhing else?
[03:08] <mustard5> Katie^, yes
[03:09] <mustard5> Katie^, finish the setup on winetools..and then that will help with all installations in the future
[03:10] <mustard5> Katie^, it may even have stuff necessary for this current installation
[03:10] <tony_> Hi all! Has anyone tried this hardware config and what kernel would be right for the badger install? Gigabyte GA-K8NMF-9 nForce4/AMD Athlon64 X2 Dual-Core "Manchester"/GeForce 7800GT
[03:11] <geopardy> ciao a tutti :)
[03:11] <Katie^> I love how it goes "it appears the installation has failed, with a great huge green tick underenat lol
[03:11] <_jason> Katie^, well at least it's windows-like
[03:11] <Ophiocus> tony_, if your downloading an iso make sure its the 64 bit version, aside from that you look ready to roll
[03:11] <Katie^> lol
[03:11] <Katie^> brb
[03:11] <geopardy> c' qualcuno che pu aiutarmi a risolvere un prob??
[03:11] <mustard5> tony_, 386 kernel should be  good for all, but you could try 64 bit kernel
[03:12] <mustard5> tony_, 386 won't make the best use of your hardware though
[03:12] <Ophiocus> !it
[03:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:12] <mustard5> tony_, but you will have less problems with software
[03:13] <Katie^> dog's lying in the hallway with ihs legs wide open...sexy...
[03:13] <geopardy> ok scusate :(
[03:13] <Davey`> Katie^: my cats do that all the time
[03:13] <jphi> hello
[03:13] <Katie^> male or female?
[03:13] <jphi> male
[03:14] <Katie^> --
[03:14] <jphi> ?
[03:15] <jphi> ya quelqu'un?
[03:15] <midwinter> heh.
[03:15] <Katie^> aww, i like gorillas
[03:15] <jphi> yes! i am!
[03:15] <Katie^> is a primate a gorilla/ape t hing
[03:16] <OpsVentus> Good day all! Can someone tell me when the next release is scheduled?
[03:16] <mustard5> 6 of the 4th?
[03:16] <midwinter> april
[03:16] <OpsVentus> ok, thanks
[03:16] <midwinter> 20th I think
[03:16] <midwinter> !dapper
[03:16] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[03:16] <mustard5> the version numbers are the date of release anyway
[03:17] <Katie^> the 14th is my bday :D
[03:17] <mustard5> I was close anyway :)
[03:17] <OpsVentus> ok, so I have to wait a wile
[03:17] <Katie^> just so we all know :p
[03:17] <ulaas> Katie^, 14 april?
[03:17] <Katie^> mhm
[03:17] <mustard5> OpsVentus, you having problems with the current version?
[03:17] <takedown_> mine 15 ;)
[03:18] <mustard5> mine is on a completly different day in a different month :)
[03:18] <Katie^> yay, my installation is working :D
[03:18] <OpsVentus> no, I want a clean install and was wondering I've I could wait will the next release or download Badger now
[03:18] <OpsVentus> so it's badger
[03:18] <mustard5> OpsVentus, k
[03:18] <northie> I have ubuntu on one drive, and want to install it again on another. Can I do this without using a cd?
[03:19] <tony_> mustard5 : so i should expect some software problems with 64 bit?
[03:19] <Set> ah god
[03:19] <mustard5> tony_, yes..there are some things that arne't well supported on 64 bit...
[03:19] <mustard5> tony_, multimedia stuff
[03:19] <cat_> hi
[03:20] <mustard5> tony_, I think 64bit people have problems with .wmv files and flash as well as other issues
[03:20] <midwinter> hi
[03:20] <lukus001> yo, how do you burn an iso image on to a disk properly, ive done two now and they havnt been detected on boot up
[03:20] <Katie^> what's 64bit?
[03:20] <lukus001> the same as 32bit, but twice as much =)
[03:20] <mustard5> Katie^, a faster computer :)
[03:20] <cat_> why there are so many people in #gentoo ,even more than those in #ubuntu ,
[03:21] <takedown_> mustard5: nothing problems with w32codecs...
[03:21] <smash3r> any way to kill a freezed app ?
[03:21] <takedown_> smash3r: kill pid app
[03:21] <lukus001> system tool > system moniter > appl > kill
[03:21] <Katie^> heap of crap is getting right on my tits
[03:21] <ulaas> smash3r, xkill
[03:21] <arrinmurr> cat_: because gentoo is quite popular?
[03:22] <mustard5> smash3r, on gnome you can click heaps of times on the kill button too :)
[03:22] <lukus001> So does anyone know how to burn an image properly in ubuntu>
[03:22] <mustard5> smash3r, then it throws up a dialog to force quit
[03:22] <smash3r> woah
[03:22] <smash3r> good
[03:22] <cat_> arrinmurr: i donot think so ! i think ubuntu is the most pop.
[03:22] <smash3r> I tried xkill
[03:22] <smash3r> then I cliked the damn freezed xmms
[03:22] <takedown_> Anyone know when cedega ported to 64 bit?
[03:22] <smash3r> then it crashed :)
[03:22] <smash3r> thankz all
[03:23] <Katie^> right, i get it past installing ,net framework 1.1
[03:23] <Katie^> then it asks for service pack 1 of that
[03:23] <lukus001> takedown_ most likly when more 64bit games are out
[03:23] <Katie^> and it just doesnt work, it just sits there looking at me
[03:23] <mustard5> smash3r, xmms usually freezes when the sound is not set right in the preferences
[03:23] <takedown_> :(
[03:23] <tony_> mustard5 :that is a shame. how about other linux flavors? can i run 32 bit drivers on a 64bit system?
[03:23] <arrinmurr> cat_: well, among those people that normally would even end up in linux distribution channels, gentoo may be quite popular
[03:24] <lukus001> no point in a 64 bit version when all the game except 2 are 32bit?
[03:24] <takedown_> may be anyone know how i can play if i have a cedega in chroot?
[03:24] <midwinter> sure you could
[03:24] <mustard5> tony_, you can run a 386 kernel no problems
[03:24] <takedown_> in chroot cedega dont see video drivers
[03:25] <takedown_> i posted about that on forum
[03:25] <mustard5> tony_, try both :)
[03:25] <Katie^> will someone download http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/thankyou.aspx?familyId=A8F5654F-088E-40B2-BBDB-A83353618B38&displayLang=en&oRef=http%3a%2f%2fwww.google.co.uk%2fsearch%3fq%3d.net%2bframework%2bversion%2b1.1%2bservice%2bpack%2b1%26btnG%3dSearch%26hs%3dZSN%26hl%3den%26client%3dfirefox%26rls%3dorg.mozilla%253Aen-GB%253Aunofficial and see if they can install it
[03:25] <Katie^> because when i ask it to open with wine, it doesnt even open wine let alone install
[03:25] <midwinter> that's a proper url
[03:25] <mustard5> tony_, you got more than one hard drive or space for two partitions with different installs of ubuntu?
[03:25] <Ng> what on earth is that?!
[03:26] <mustard5> Katie^, you doing it in Internet Explorer?
[03:26] <Katie^> no
[03:26] <Katie^> do i have to?
[03:26] <tony_> mustard5: sure - i will! unfortunately havee to use a win install for gaming. Yes i have enough room for ubuntu x 2
[03:27] <mustard5> tony_, well I would just try them both :)
[03:27] <rc> i have both ubuntu 5.10 and windows XP in my laptop. i need to uninstall ubuntu first since i need to have more disk space for windows since i need it in my work. i plan to just install ubuntu back after  finish doing my project. how do i remove ubuntu in my system without losing my current windows XP? thanks.
[03:27] <mustard5> tony_, you been to the ubuntuforums?
[03:27] <lowman62> why would you want .NET?
[03:28] <mustard5> lowman62, I think Katie^ is trying to install some software in wine...
[03:28] <guillem101> rc, usually by formatting partitions used by ubuntu. But be careful, since you may format the wrong partition if you don't think twice :-P
[03:28] <Ng> rc: boot into windows and use some kind of disk partitioning tool to reformat the ubuntu partitions as ntfs, or resize your windows partition over the top of them
[03:28] <tony_> mustard5: Yes!  they are great. just needed to here it would be ok from someone :)
[03:28] <Katie^> well disc2phone says you need that software, when i click ok, to continue with the installation, /nothing/ happens :(
[03:29] <takedown_> rc: u can delete linux partition with partion magick for example
[03:29] <lowman62> Katie^: i dunno if that will install using wine maybe try crossover
[03:29] <Katie^> crossover?
[03:29] <mustard5> I just wonder what partition grub is installed on on rc's system
[03:29] <lowman62> Katie^: i will get you the page one sec
[03:29] <devwal> rocketman327: still up?
[03:30] <Katie^> ty
[03:30] <devwal> woops
[03:30] <rc> takedown: i have partition magic 8.0. but, isnt deleting the linux partition result to not being able to boot into windows? since GRUB would be deleted too?
[03:30] <mikul> where can i find the file where i can see witch ports are used by (or open for) every different program?
[03:30] <takedown_> rc: thats right
[03:30] <Katie^> *which, *cackles* :p
[03:30] <foresight> there's a witch in the ports ?
[03:31] <takedown_> rc: u need windows cd for recovering mbr
[03:31] <mikul> spelling 2k :P
[03:31] <lowman62> Katie^: here it is check the professional version http://www.codeweavers.com/
[03:31] <Katie^> I have to pay for it
[03:32] <tony_> mustard5: thanx for thehelp!!
[03:32] <rc> takedown: can i safely remove ubuntu w/out losing XP by manually partioning the partitions. i'll boot using the ubuntu cd again, then delete the linux partition.. after that, il choose the windows partition ang change it to BOOTABLE. is this right?
[03:32] <thegladiator>  #ubuntu is: Official Ubuntu support channe
[03:32] <thegladiator> cool
[03:32] <lowman62> Katie^: may i pm you?
[03:32] <thegladiator> thought this is unofficial
[03:32] <Katie^> course
[03:32] <Katie^> lol
[03:33] <trog> hiya
[03:33] <thegladiator> rc, u didnt like ubuntu?
[03:33] <estudiante> hola
[03:33] <Ophiocus> !es
[03:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:33] <takedown_> rc: u cant delete ubuntu without lose a grub
[03:33] <trog> anyone have any experience setting patching so that you can you use kismet with the orinoco card?
[03:33] <Ophiocus> arf
[03:33] <thegladiator> just for the recors does ubuntu have a uninstallation program?
[03:33] <Katie^> any of you play inselkampf?
[03:33] <Set> !no
[03:34] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[03:34] <mustard5> thegladiator, not that I know of
[03:34] <thegladiator> shouldnt that be included  ? so that users can safely remove ubuntu as well ?
[03:34] <Ophiocus> does windows have one thegladiator ?
[03:34] <rc> takedown: yep, in deleting ubuntu, ill loose grub but if i change windows xp to bootable, that would enable me to boot to windows ryt?
[03:35] <sudharsh> !ubotu
[03:35] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[03:35] <thegladiator> Ophiocus, Ophiocus i am asking since ubuntu creates a grb
[03:35] <Ophiocus> os dont uninstall,. you replace them with another one
[03:35] <thegladiator> grub*
[03:35] <thegladiator> windows XP can be uninstalled yes
[03:35] <thegladiator> ah i see
[03:35] <Ophiocus> uninstalled? the os? how?
[03:35] <thegladiator> XP can be downgraded to 98
[03:36] <thegladiator> Ophiocus, thats what they call uninstallation
[03:36] <mustard5> rc, you might be best doing a search in the ubuntuforums for others who have done it
[03:36] <takedown_> rc: nope
[03:36] <takedown_> rc: u have only 1 way
[03:36] <Ophiocus> that means you can install 98 over xp,. thats diferent
[03:36] <mustard5> rc, I've seen threads in there on the subject
[03:36] <thegladiator> yes that one
[03:36] <trog> what does "scripts/basic/fixdep.c:105:23: sys/types.h: No such file or directory
[03:36] <trog> " mean during the make modules command?
[03:36] <sudharsh> Ophiocus: i suppose thers an option in Add or remove Programs
[03:37] <takedown_> rc: delete linux partition, boot from windows install CD and choose recover console, type fixmbr in console and u have bootable windows
[03:37] <thegladiator> sudharsh, i think thats when you have 98 as well
[03:37] <Profichilla> hiho
[03:37] <Ophiocus> i am still to find an os that says "click here to render your computer utterly useless"
[03:37] <pfarmer> trog: it means you missing the "sys/types.h" file
[03:37] <sudharsh> thegladiator: when u install xp over 98
[03:37] <rc> takedow: thanks
[03:37] <sudharsh> been 2 years though
[03:37] <thegladiator> sudharsh, hardly can any OS remvoe itself :) thats cutting cutting a branch of tree while working on it
[03:37] <maduranga55> hello
[03:37] <thegladiator> yes only that sudharsh . othersie no facility o remove
[03:37] <Ophiocus> sudharsh, i have looked long and hard into it,. never seen "remove windows and all its components"
[03:38] <pfarmer> trog: have you got libc6-dev installed?
[03:38] <takedown_> rc: np
[03:38] <trog> pfarmer ill look
[03:38] <rc> takedown: does having 2 os affect my battery? since when i just had xp, battery lasts 2 hours and 15 mins.. now, it just lasts 1 hr and a half
[03:38] <sudharsh> Ophiocus: must be like 'revert to blah blah'...dont remember though
[03:38] <thegladiator> yes no OS has it perhaps . but grub shud be removed ...some progr shud be there...i always wanted to program a grub gen
[03:38] <thegladiator> a program that generated grub
[03:38] <Marlun> Anyone know of any app where you can get history of your internet connection status, for example when It has gone down, etc?
[03:39] <trog> installing it now
[03:39] <sudharsh> Marlun: i think ethereal does it....not sure
[03:39] <thegladiator> sudharsh, are you in any LUG ?
[03:39] <thegladiator> from chennai ?
[03:39] <FaTaL-XP> hi,  i have a few problems installing nVidia Drivers
[03:39] <sudharsh> thegladiator: yea ilugc
[03:39] <Marlun> sudharsh, thanks, I'll take a look.
[03:40] <sudharsh> thegladiator: yes
[03:40] <mustard5> FaTaL-XP, what type of problem?
[03:40] <takedown_> rc: i dont know, i dont use any notebook :)
[03:40] <mustard5> FaTaL-XP, you followiing any guides?
[03:41] <Pupeno> Are Gnome icons svg ?
[03:41] <takedown_> rc: i think OS cant affect to battery
[03:41] <takedown_> rc: its depends on hardware i think
[03:41] <aodio> !w32codecs
[03:41] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:42] <FaTaL-XP> well to begin with i had none of the libs,    i.e.  GCC, Make, and a ton more,   but i downloaded and installed them,   but now its saying that i have gcc4.0 and the kernal was compiled with gcc3.4 so i got 3.4,  altho it still thinks i have 4.0,   if i ignore that,   it now says i dont have the kernal source ?!?!?!?
[03:42] <Steve^> How can I make ubuntu show my SuSE and XP paritions in the file manager?
[03:42] <CarinArr> fatal-xp, then you'll have to install it;)
[03:42] <rc> takedown: do you know how to fix the system clock between ubuntu and windows? i'll install ubuntu back after a week and i wish that my clock would be fixed. ex: i use windows now, then use ubuntu, when i go back to windows, my clock has been changed.. does anyone know how to fix this? thanks guys
[03:42] <FaTaL-XP> where from ?
[03:42] <mustard5> FaTaL-XP, you tried installing from synaptic instead?
[03:42] <CarinArr> fatal-xp, do uname -r, what does it say?
[03:43] <FaTaL-XP> can you install nVidia drivers in synaptic ?
[03:43] <mustard5> !nvidia
[03:43] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:43] <CarinArr> but yeah, you might want to try to install the drivers through synaptic first, cause it's a lot easier
[03:43] <mustard5> FaTaL-XP, yes
[03:43] <mustard5> FaTaL-XP, check the link from ubotu above
[03:43] <rc> mustard5: why is it that wireless connection is very fast when i use ubuntu than windows xp? or is having lesser programs in my ubuntu partition the reason?
[03:43] <FaTaL-XP> ok
[03:44] <mustard5> rc, I have no idea...I'm on dialup rc :)
[03:44] <takedown_> rc: hm i dont know, i dont see that problem before..., btw u can use ntp synchronization on ubuntu and win
[03:44] <Ng> rc: the number of programs you have installed has no relation on wireless speed
[03:44] <Ng> rc: it's probably because the windows and linux drivers are different
[03:44] <rc> whats ntp synchronization by the way?
[03:45] <takedown_> rc: network time protcol
[03:45] <johnking> anybody home?
[03:45] <mustard5> everyone is home
[03:45] <takedown_> rc: in windows double click on time
[03:45] <rc> how do i do that takedown? i would appreciate if you teach me how. i love windows and i like ubuntu too. i just want to solve my time problem
[03:46] <rc> takedown: then?
[03:46] <johnking> I have a project to setup a "Forum Server" and I have no clue where to begin any help?
[03:46] <takedown_> rc: and find menu about synchronization, i forgot where place it
[03:47] <mustard5> !lamp
[03:47] <ubotu> lamp is, like, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:47] <takedown_> rc: default installation of ubuntu use ntp synchronization
[03:47] <takedown_> rc: and windows too
[03:47] <mustard5> johnking, try that link from ubotu on lamp
[03:47] <pfarmer> johnking: sudo apt-get install phpbb2
[03:47] <takedown_> !ntp
[03:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ntp is Network Time Protocol. Install 'ntpdate' for a simple ntp client.
[03:48] <rc> takedown: so after locating the menu about synchronization, what would i do next?
[03:49] <takedown_> rc: u can write some ntp server, for default windows used windows ntp server
[03:49] <Katie^> who wants to read a installation error log?
[03:49] <Katie^> to see how i can fix it
[03:49] <mustard5> Katie^, put it in the pastebin
[03:49] <Katie^> whats the site?
[03:49] <mustard5> !pastebin
[03:49] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:50] <jbroome> !paste
[03:50] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:50] <CarinArr> rc, was your question just why ubuntu is quicker than win?
[03:50] <takedown_> rc: in ubuntu u can check use ubuntu time sync or no
[03:51] <rc> CarinArr: something like that. wireless is faster in ubuntu
[03:51] <rc> takedown: where will i check that?
[03:51] <Katie^> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7001
[03:51] <CarinArr> rc, i've found that as well.. might be windows reserve bandwidth for some random reason
[03:51] <takedown_> rc: type ntpdate in console and u can see it in startup scripts takedown@breezy:~/mp3$ ls /etc/init.d/ |grep ntp
[03:51] <takedown_> ntpdate
[03:51] <flogiston> I get fault when opening vim.
[03:52] <CarinArr> flogiston, what fault?
[03:52] <Katie^> okay
[03:52] <CarinArr> if it's multiple lines don't paste it in here
[03:52] <Katie^> some of it's missing
[03:52] <flogiston> Couldn't open file /tmp/v90946/0
[03:52] <rc> takedown: 12 Jan 22:52:12 ntpdate[8254] : no servers can be used, exiting
[03:52] <Katie^> can't i just sned the file to someone
[03:52] <Katie^> lol
[03:53] <flogiston> Wheres the paste bin for #ubuntu?
[03:53] <johnking> Thank guys for your help
[03:53] <Katie^> !paste
[03:53] <Ng> flogiston: it's in the topic
[03:53] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:53] <takedown_> rc: u have ntpdate in startup scripts folder?
[03:53] <takedown_> rc: typa witch ntpdate
[03:53] <takedown_> rc: type*
[03:53] <Ng> do you mean "which ntpdate"?
[03:53] <flogiston> I'm getting swedish error message so im not sure what it says in english but i'll try to write it.
[03:53] <Katie^> is there a program where i can let one of you guys "into" my computer to sort it
[03:53] <Katie^> lol
[03:54] <mustard5> Katie^, I have no idea what the installation log means..sorry
[03:54] <rc> takedown: comman witch not found
[03:54] <mustard5> Katie^, someone else might know what it all means
[03:54] <takedown_> rc: yea right, sry which ntdate
[03:54] <jenda> Does anyone know how to use a "loop device" with dvd::rip?
[03:54] <Ng> Katie^: you could install an ssh daemon, but it's not a great idea to let random people off the internet onto your computer
[03:54] <takedown_> damn ntpdate :)
[03:54] <Ng> rc: try "which ntpdate"
[03:55] <SilverSpace> :)
[03:55] <flogiston> CarinArr: are you familiar witht the fault?
[03:55] <sudharsh> ntpate gives a no server found error
[03:55] <Trackilizer> Hey guys.
[03:55] <Katie^> Anyone know about installation errors?
[03:55] <Trackilizer> Need your help.
[03:55] <rc> takedown: /usr/sbin/ntpdate
[03:56] <_jason> Trackilizer, ask away
[03:56] <jenda> Trackilizer: Ask, don't ask to ask :)
[03:56] <shad0w1e> my remote machine has "gone to sleep" when I "putty" into it, the terminal just sits there.. but doesnt give me any errors, just a blank screen. is there any way to "wake it up" from here? Thanks
[03:56] <Trackilizer> Re-installed windows and now GRUB is gone, how do i restore it?
[03:56] <CarinArr> flogiston, is " Couldn't open file /tmp/v90946/0" all it says?
[03:56] <mustard5> !grub
[03:56] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:56] <Trackilizer> I'm in the ubuntu live cd now.
[03:56] <mixandgo> Trackilizer, grub-install ?
[03:56] <sudharsh> Trackilizer: u hav the bootdisk??
[03:56] <mustard5> Trackilizer, check the second link in ubotu's message above
[03:56] <CarinArr> flogiston, and is taht when you try to run vim without any arguments?
[03:56] <flogiston> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7002
[03:57] <CarinArr> looking
[03:57] <flogiston> No arguments.
[03:57] <jenda> Trackilizer: You can use the install CD, expert mode, and sip to "installing bootloader"
[03:57] <jenda> *skip even
[03:57] <flogiston> It the same when i try to open a file or when i just run "vim"
[03:57] <CarinArr> flogiston, can you paste the contents of /urs/share/vim/vimrc in there as well?
[03:57] <Trackilizer> ok, i'll do that,does it matter if the the installation CD is hoary and not breezy?
[03:57] <flogiston> Wait a second.
[03:58] <roune> how do u uninstall ubuntu? coz i wanted to try slamd64, and i removed a partition named linux, but ubuntu still exists ^^
[03:58] <e_machinist> Is anyone else having trouble updating their repository information?
[03:58] <takedown_> rc: ok type vim /etc/default/ntpdate
[03:58] <flogiston> The whole vimrc?
[03:58] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: got dc
[03:58] <CarinArr> flogiston, yeah
[03:58] <e_machinist> roune, just format the HDD that Ubuntu is on.
[03:58] <Ng> e_machinist: nope, if you're using a mirror, try a different one?
[03:58] <gnomefreak> roune, you should beable to use the slam cd to format the linux partions
[03:59] <CarinArr> flogiston, or at least up to row 58
[03:59] <FaTaL-XP> am not sure if i am running 386 or 686 kernal,  how do i find out ?
[03:59] <gnomefreak> ^^^ without ever hearing about slamd
[03:59] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: what means dc?
[03:59] <mustard5> FaTaL-XP, uname -r
[03:59] <flogiston> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7005
[03:59] <e_machinist> Ng, not using a mirror, that is the strange part.
[03:59] <roune> gnonefreak, well, that should be the partition named linux? im running both linux and windows, and i dont want to delete the windows partition, ^^
[03:59] <e_machinist> Wait a minute...
[03:59] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: what would i do next? got " disconnected from irc"
[03:59] <Ng> e_machinist: hmm, well I'm using the UK mirror (gb.archive.ubuntu.com) and it seems to be ok
[03:59] <_jason> e_machinist, someone was having trouble with the canadian mirror yesterday
[03:59] <flogiston> The file in /tmp that vim is complaining about does not exist.
[03:59] <FaTaL-XP> thanks mate
[04:00] <mustard5> FaTaL-XP, np
[04:00] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: # servers to check.   (Separate multiple servers with spaces.)
[04:00] <ryancasimiro_> #NTPSERVERS="pool.ntp.org"
[04:00] <ryancasimiro_> NTPSERVERS="ntp.ubuntulinux.org"
[04:00] <ryancasimiro_> #
[04:00] <ryancasimiro_> # additional options for ntpdate
[04:00] <ryancasimiro_> #NTPOPTIONS="-v"
[04:00] <ryancasimiro_> NTPOPTIONS="-u"
[04:00] <Trackilizer> ok, thanks everyone....
[04:00] <jbroome> !tell ryancasimiro_ about paste
[04:00] <takedown_> hm
[04:00] <mustard5> ryancasimiro_, paste in the pastebin pls
[04:00] <e_machinist> haha... man.. I'm retarded, I forgot to turn my firewall off before updating the package information.
[04:00] <roune> gnomefreak, i tried, i tired, and i removed the partition named linux, then made a new, and then formated it, but ubuntu still exists ^^
[04:00] <gnomefreak> roune, depending on what partioner you are using it should be the one that says ext2/3 or even with the swap attached
[04:01] <ryancasimiro_> sori, im new here
[04:01] <takedown_> ok
[04:01] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: type /etc/init.d/ |grep ntp
[04:01] <flogiston> CarinArr, What to you think?
[04:01] <CarinArr> flogiston, hmm..
[04:01] <aba-> ls /etc/init.d |grep ntp
[04:01] <gnomefreak> roune,  did you try deleing the partions totally and remaking it with the slam partioner?
[04:01] <e_machinist> roune, all you really need to do is delete all partitions on your drive, format the drive, fix your master boot record and then proceed to install slam... That way you are starting fresh.
[04:01] <CarinArr> flogiston, right.. someone else might know more than me, but i would try commenting out lines 56-65
[04:02] <_jason> flogiston, why does it say /urs instead of /usr in your paste
[04:02] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: so i'l exit from the previos one? okay, wait
[04:02] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: right, forget ls :)
[04:02] <roune> gnomefreak, okay, then i was thing about another thing, becouse i installed slamd64, and they asked me if i wanted to add lilo to the masterbootrecord thing i think, but i said no, becouse i already have grub, if i installed lilo to, doesnt that mean trouble? ^^
[04:02] <flogiston> Becaus i get error message in swedish and i translated it-
[04:03] <CarlFK> svn shows: svnlook: error: cannot set LC_ALL locale; environment variable LANG is en_GB.UTF-8; please check that your locale name is correct
[04:03] <flogiston> I happend to write it wrong.
[04:03] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: yes, type :q! to quit from vim
[04:03] <flogiston> Ir should be usr
[04:03] <gnomefreak> roune, i never had issues with using lilo instead of grub
[04:03] <e_machinist> roune, you will have to edit grub to not see ubuntu and to see slam
[04:03] <cat_> hi when i run apt-get to download debs ,exactly what download tools have been used ?it is wget ?
[04:03] <_jason> flogiston, oh
[04:03] <CarlFK> I think that is a server side thing.  anyone know what "locale name" is?
[04:03] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: /etc/init.d/: is a directory
[04:03] <DeathWatch_> nas
[04:03] <gnomefreak> cat_, APT is the package manager
[04:03] <roune> gnomefreak, but if i already have grub install, and then install lilo, and havnt removed grub, wont that couse trouble?
[04:03] <takedown_> cat_: yep
[04:03] <MarcN> cat_: some http library built into apt
[04:04] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: ls /etc/init.d/ |grep ntp, just forget ls :)
[04:04] <e_machinist> roune, that is why you should fix the MBR before you install the new distro.
[04:04] <cat_> APT is  the package manager ,and wget download all the files ?
[04:04] <takedown_> gnomefreak: apt used wget for download pakages
[04:05] <roune> e_machinist, well, i dont know how to :D
[04:05] <CarinArr> flogiston, does commenting out those lines make any difference?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> takedown_, yes it should but the tool itself that it uses is APT
[04:05] <flogiston> CaringArr, with comment you meen put " infront of the line?
[04:05] <CarinArr> yeah
[04:05] <e_machinist> roune, do you have Windows XP on one of your disks or partitions?
[04:05] <cat_> is there a way to change the default download manager wget to something others ?
[04:05] <roune> e_machinist, yes i do :P
[04:06] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: it just showed ntpdate
[04:06] <gnomefreak> i htought when the person said tool after apt-get i thought they meant what pm
[04:06] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: hm then i dont know, all looks fine
[04:06] <e_machinist> roune, the easiest way to fix it then is to insert your installation disc for XP, and boot from the cd, after it loads, press R to start the recovery console, log into the recovery console and type fixmbr, press y for yes.
[04:07] <PMantis> What coutry is Canonical, Ltd from?
[04:07] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: u have internet connection from u ubuntu?
[04:07] <e_machinist> It will erase the boot loader altogether, then you can proceed to install slam and let it install Lilo.
[04:07] <roune> e_machinist, thanks, i will write that down ;P
[04:07] <e_machinist> roune, heh.
[04:07] <flogiston> CarinArr: at least im not getting any error message
[04:08] <CarinArr> flogiston, does it start okay?
[04:08] <flogiston> yepp
[04:08] <takedown_> cat_: i think it impossible and why u want to change it?
[04:08] <flogiston> Now i just want to activate row numbering and im happy^^
[04:08] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: my problem is with windows i think. im using ubuntu now. if i boot to windows next time, time will be incorrect. usually delayed by 8hrs even if time is correct when i used windows the last time
[04:08] <cat_> takedown_: wget is not fast i think
[04:09] <CarinArr> flogiston, cool.. i always set up my own .vimrc in my home directory, and it overrides the default one
[04:09] <trappist> me too
[04:09] <flogiston> That sounds safer.
[04:09] <takedown_> cat_: lol, downloading speed not a depend on download manager
[04:09] <flogiston> The only thing that i uncommented is syntax highlighting.
[04:10] <trappist> flogiston: here's mine: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/home/dot_vimrc
[04:10] <flogiston> CarinArr, can you post the default to?
[04:10] <CarinArr> flogiston, what do you mean?
[04:10] <takedown_> cat_: its depends only on u internet connection
[04:11] <flogiston> The original vimrc
[04:11] <cat_> takedown_:not really ,some download manager is design to have multi-threading feather
[04:11] <flogiston> The one that comes by default installation
[04:11] <PMantis> if the Isle of Man part of the United Kingdom ? (Canonical address)
[04:11] <CarinArr> flogiston, i'm on my suse machine in the office atm and i'm not sure it even has a default vimrc
[04:11] <trappist> cat_: wget will happily saturate your pipe, and multi-threading doesn't fatten your pipe at all
[04:11] <flogiston> Okey.
[04:11] <mcphail> I've stupidly deleted /var/log/ (a directory I don't back up). I assume there is no recovery bar re-installation?
[04:11] <CarinArr> flogiston, it has a vimrc_example, but that's it
[04:11] <flogiston> think thats the same.
[04:12] <mcphail> */var/lib
[04:12] <flogiston> I'll be fine with mine now.
[04:12] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: so i dont know something else about it, u can find some info in google
[04:12] <flogiston> Trappist; do you know how to show row numbers in wim?
[04:12] <sudharsh> cat_: try d4x
[04:12] <CarinArr> flogiston, set number
[04:12] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: okie thanks so much
[04:12] <eva_> hi
[04:13] <midwinter> PMantis, yes, probably for tax reasons or something though..
[04:13] <cat_> sudharsh:yeah i mean d4x ,but how to replace wget ?
[04:13] <sudharsh> do use firefox
[04:13] <flogiston> i cant find it
[04:13] <flogiston> Do i have to ad it myselfe?
[04:13] <CarinArr> flogiston, you just need to put "set number"
[04:13] <jvNET> something is wrong with my Firefox
[04:13] <CarinArr> flogiston, make a .vimrc file in your homedirectory, and put "set number" in there
[04:14] <sudharsh> cat_: use flashgot extension for firefox and u r set
[04:14] <jvNET> /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  8552 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[04:14] <trappist> flogiston: set number
[04:14] <PMantis> midwinter, I was wondering about mailing address. :)
[04:14] <sudharsh> jvNET: u shouldnt run tthat
[04:14] <_jason> jvNET, what version
[04:14] <jvNET> 1.5
[04:14] <PMantis> midwinter, I think what I have is good enough...
[04:14] <_jason> jvNET, are you running SCIM?
[04:14] <sudharsh> !firefox 1.5
[04:14] <jvNET> im using it until i reboot my pc
[04:14] <ubotu> sudharsh: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:14] <cat_> sudharsh: thanks but it goes far away to my destiny
[04:14] <jvNET> whats SCIM?
[04:14] <flogiston> shouldn't there be a .vim in ~?
[04:14] <sudharsh> !firefox 1.5
[04:15] <midwinter> PMantis, yeah shouldn't be hard to find an address for them..
[04:15] <trappist> flogiston: .vimrc
[04:15] <FaTaL-XP> well in installed nvidia drivers via synaptic,   but when i rebooted the X-Server it does not show the nVidia logo like it says it should,     any ideas ?
[04:15] <CarinArr> flogiston, my .vimrc in my homedirectory looks like this: http://www.cs.bath.ac.uk/~ccem20/.vimrc
[04:15] <PMantis> midwinter, Yeah: http://www.canonical.com/contact
[04:15] <flogiston> ok
[04:15] <cello_rasp> why doesnt my Super_L key work anymore?
[04:15] <jvNET> i really dont know what happend to my firefox
[04:15] <sudharsh> jvNET: try this https://www.wiki.ubuntu.org/FirefoxNewversion
[04:15] <PMantis> midwinter, But doens't say country. Apparently, Isle of Man is a country by itself? Hmmmm
[04:15] <CarinArr> fatal-xp, you need to make sure your xorg.conf is set up properly
[04:16] <takedown_> FaTaL-XP: u need to replace "nv" to "nvidia" in u xorg.conf in video section
[04:16] <jvNET> I was using it with no problems, until I rebooted my Pc
[04:16] <FaTaL-XP> hrmm
[04:16] <jvNET> I can't open firefox.. Y_Y
[04:16] <CarinArr> fatal-xp, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074 <- look at that, it tells you exactly what you need to do
[04:16] <flogiston> What does everything do?
[04:16] <foresight> lowman62, there ?
[04:16] <sudharsh> jvNET: try running the firefox-bin thingy
[04:17] <woodywarty> Hi all
[04:17] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: last question: how do i choose the right resolution for my laptop? screen resolution just have 3 choices but my laptop uses a higher resolution. how do i change my screen resolution?
[04:17] <_jason> flogiston, you might want to read this, it is similar to your error before: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8372.html
[04:17] <e_machinist> woodywarty: holla
[04:17] <woodywarty> How do I enable scripts so that I can run them at Startup in Ubuntu ?
[04:17] <sudharsh> jvNET: follow the instructions if u r upgrading from ff 1.0.7 to 1.5
[04:17] <FaTaL-XP> ok so just change Driver		"nv"    to Driver		"nvidia"
[04:17] <sudharsh> check this out
[04:18] <cello_rasp> how do install kde programs?
[04:18] <jvNET> yes I did the instruction
[04:18] <sudharsh> in the wiki page?
[04:18] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: hm i think u can use menu in u kde\gnome(just i dont use that) or u can configure it manualy
[04:18] <e_machinist> cello_rasp: apt or the K implementation of Synaptic...
[04:18] <jvNET> yes
[04:18] <sudharsh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion....<----this link?
[04:19] <_jason> cello_rasp, I think you use 'adept', try #kubuntu
[04:19] <sudharsh> oh okie dokie
[04:19] <jvNET> i think so... i copied it under gedit
[04:19] <cello_rasp> thx, i'm trying to have kde programs over gnome :)
[04:19] <sudharsh> what does simply running 'firefox' in terminal say?
[04:19] <woodywarty> So can somebody tell me how to enable scripts to run at Startup ???
[04:19] <woodywarty> Please help
[04:19] <jvNET> /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  8786 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[04:19] <e_machinist> KDE programs over gnome? GNOME missing something that you need?
[04:20] <trappist> woodywarty: to run as root at bootup, or as you at login?
[04:20] <sudharsh> jvNET: ushouldnt run dat
[04:20] <woodywarty> Trappits, to run at bootup
[04:20] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: its not in the options when i use the GUI
[04:20] <CarinArr> flogiston, right.. syntax on turns on syntax highlighting, background=dark makes the colour choices suitable for dark background terminals, tabstop=3 makes tabs 3 characters wide, shiftwidth=3 number of spaces used for autoindent, backspace=2 sets the backspace mode, showcmd shows the command characters, autoindent and smartindent has to do with automatic indentation, incsearch enables incremental search, and number enables line numbers
[04:20] <sudharsh> try creatinf a symlink of firefox in /opt in /usr/bin
[04:20] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: how do i reconfigure it in the terminal?
[04:20] <jvNET> ok i'll try
[04:21] <sudharsh> jvNET: i guess u didnt follow the instructions in the page properly
[04:21] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: try type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:21] <jvNET> I was using that step few months ago
[04:21] <ryancasimiro_> can't use Totem movie player that comes with ubuntu. totem could not start up.. video ouput is in use... etc.. does any1 know about this?
[04:21] <trappist> woodywarty: check out /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:21] <flogiston> does the vimrc in my ~ override the one in /usr/share/vim/vimrc without setting anything up?
[04:22] <sudharsh> jvNET: r u sure??/
[04:22] <jvNET> yes
[04:22] <CarinArr> flogiston, i _think_ so.. but i'm not sure.. have a look at the vim manual, it should tell you
[04:22] <sudharsh> k...do this 'sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox'
[04:22] <sudharsh> then...
[04:23] <CarinArr> flogiston, if you're not fussed about the global vimrc file you can just rename it and it won't be used
[04:23] <sudharsh> did u do the dpkg-divert thingy
[04:23] <jvNET> files exist
[04:23] <_jason> flogiston, I think it just augments it.  It's run in addition to the /etc/vim/vimrc
[04:23] <sudharsh> jvNET: sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/firefox
[04:23] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: but i think u cant use another resolution if u dont have modeline in u xorg.conf
[04:23] <CarinArr> _jason might be right
[04:23] <CarinArr> infact that would make sense
[04:23] <woodywarty> Trappist, isn't there a easier way to start scripts at Boot-up ???
[04:24] <flogiston> does the vimrc work even when hiding it? like .vimrc in my ~
[04:24] <jvNET> then sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox right?
[04:24] <sudharsh> yes
[04:24] <_jason> flogiston, that's how I have it
[04:24] <flogiston> Thanks
[04:24] <Belutz> where's the file setting for network profile created by network-admin?
[04:24] <CarinArr> flogiston, naming it vimrc wouldn't work.. it needs the . before
[04:24] <trappist> woodywarty: probably, but I don't know what it is in ubuntu.  in redhat it used to be /etc/rc.local
[04:24] <jvNET> file exist still
[04:24] <sudharsh> k try this 'mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox-backup
[04:25] <purplefeltangel> can someone tell me how to install a font?
[04:25] <sudharsh> with sudo of course
[04:25] <CarinArr> anyhoo.. need to go pick my dog up
[04:25] <CarinArr> laters!
[04:25] <sudharsh> purplefeltangel: copy the fonts in fotns:///
[04:25] <FaTaL-XP> done that,  am still getting now nvidia logo :(
[04:25] <sudharsh> *fonts:///
[04:25] <javaTard> I can't seem to find a list of supported wireless cards for laptops, is in on the ubuntu site and I am just not finding it in search?
[04:25] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: im not in. im not at the option whre i would choose the video modes to use.. only 3 screen resolutions are chosen. how do i chooce a screen resolution.. how do i mark it?
[04:25] <jvNET> still geting mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox-backup
[04:25] <jvNET> xsend
[04:25] <sudharsh> ???
[04:25] <jvNET> still geting this : /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  8989 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[04:26] <_jason> javaTard, search the wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:26] <sudharsh> jvNET: dont run run-mozilla.sh
[04:26] <purplefeltangel> sudharsh: thxu
[04:26] <sudharsh> jvNET: run fireox-bin
[04:26] <trappist> FaTaL-XP: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in the "Device" section, put this:  Option "NoLogo" "True"
[04:26] <sudharsh> else make a launcher in the desktop that points to it
[04:26] <jvNET> let me try
[04:27] <FaTaL-XP> sorry,  i ment,  am not getting an nvidia logo
[04:27] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: whats that?
[04:27] <smash3r> hello! I would like some help to mount my dvd-rom since I tried many times to mount it and that it seems to be not recongnized by ubuntu (any issue with sony dvd burners?)
[04:28] <cello_rasp> how do i make mount executable by users?
[04:28] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: try my method: type gtf and write u resolution like this gtf 1024x768@100 and u got a modeline and copy that modeline to xorg.conf
[04:28] <jvNET> how do you run firefox-bin? if i type "firefox" in terminal, i will get this : /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  8989 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[04:28] <FaTaL-XP> i have followed all the instruction to install the nvidia drivers,   but i am not getting a logo,   so am not sure they are workin ?
[04:29] <sudharsh> u hav the wrong symlimk
[04:29] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: thats the resolution i want to use
[04:29] <trappist> FaTaL-XP: you can tell if they're working if this gives you a 'yes': glxinfo | grep rendering
[04:29] <cello_rasp> smash3r: i dunno about sony - they tend to be fine -  but check out fstab
[04:29] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: okay, ill try
[04:29] <jvNET> but i was using firefox 1.5 for almost 3days now
[04:29] <sudharsh> jvNET dont run the script....run fiefox executable
[04:29] <sudharsh> well..try it
[04:30] <smash3r> FaTaL-XP: have you tried this? -> "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[04:30] <FaTaL-XP> ok,  excellent guys,  thanks for your help,     will GL appz work now ?
[04:30] <ryancasimiro_> takdown: gtf comman not found
[04:30] <jvNET> "sh firefox-bin" under /opt/firefox - firefox-bin: firefox-bin: cannot execute binary file
[04:30] <_jason> jvNET, I doubt this will work but try: 'firefox -safe-mode'
[04:30] <smash3r> cello_rasp: I checked the fstab and my hdc isnt there
[04:30] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: pm me if u need some help
[04:30] <trappist> FaTaL-XP: did you get a yes?
[04:30] <FaTaL-XP> yes
[04:31] <trappist> then yes :)
[04:31] <joe_alf> jvNET: try /opt/firefox/firefox
[04:31] <FaTaL-XP> Direct Rendering: Yes
[04:31] <cello_rasp> smash3r: try including a line to mount it then :>
[04:31] <sudharsh> dont include sh
[04:31] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: try /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf
[04:31] <jvNET> same error
[04:32] <_jason> jvNET, with safe-mode?
[04:32] <sudharsh> jvNET dont inlcude the 'sh'
[04:32] <sudharsh> jus /opt/firefox/firefox
[04:32] <javaTard> Nevermind, I got it. Thanks
[04:32] <jvNET> @jason,  same error
[04:32] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: something about the resolution came out.. options
[04:32] <jvNET> i did not add SH
[04:32] <joe_alf> jvNET: type this exactly /opt/firefox/firefox
[04:32] <smash3r> anyone got any issue with cd-rom or dvd-rom not being recognized before me here ?
[04:32] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: try /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf 1024 768 100
[04:33] <jvNET> /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  9311 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[04:33] <sudharsh> smash3r: what errors r u getting while mountin the disc
[04:33] <sudharsh> jvNET: dont run-mozilla.sh
[04:33] <jvNET> i think my firefox is link with run-mozilla.sh
[04:33] <sudharsh> oh oh...
[04:33] <smash3r> sudharsh: "hdc doesnt exist" (and its plugged & working on windows side)
[04:33] <jvNET> i tried this /opt/firefox/firefox then same run-mozilla.sh error
[04:33] <ryancasimiro_> is the refresh rate really 100? what does refresh rate mean by the way? im using a compaq v2000 laptop
[04:34] <joe_alf> jvNET: ls -l /opt/firefox/firefox
[04:34] <sudharsh> smash3r: what does post say about ur drive
[04:34] <trappist> smash3r: you're sure it's supposed to be hdc?  it's your secondary master drive?
[04:34] <smash3r> sudharsh: how do I check this ?
[04:34] <smash3r> trappist: yes i am
[04:34] <sudharsh> i mean: primary or secondary
[04:34] <e_machinist> Anyone use or have used RealPlayer 10 on Linux? Is it any better than the windows version?
[04:34] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: i dont know its just example
[04:34] <smash3r> my dvd-rom drive is secondary master
[04:34] <sudharsh> r u sure.......
[04:35] <smash3r> YES
[04:35] <jvNET> -rwxr-xr-x  1 myusername myusername 5239 2005-11-12 08:59 /opt/firefox/firefox
[04:35] <smash3r> I plugged it myself
[04:35] <ryancasimiro_> i entered it already
[04:35] <sudharsh> okie.....dokie....check the fstab
[04:35] <ryancasimiro_> whats next
[04:35] <_jason> jvNET, what does 'apt-cache policy scim | grep Installed' return?
[04:35] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: for u need to write u resolution and u refresh rate, dont write unsupported options, u can damage u monitor!
[04:36] <jvNET> installed (none)
[04:36] <sudharsh> doesnt scim hav issues with ff 1.5
[04:36] <ryancasimiro_> whats u?
[04:37] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: u can find supported options in u documentations for u notebook
[04:37] <jvNET> i also tried GAIM, but I can't run it either, 'segmentation fault' also
[04:37] <Ng> ryancasimiro_: "you" or "your", I think ;)
[04:37] <sudharsh> oh dear..
[04:38] <Ng> jvNET: if you're getting lots of odd segfaults you should probably test your RAM
[04:38] <sudharsh> jvNET does firefox and gaim....run propely for other users??
[04:38] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: what happened when i entered the code u told me? did it changed something?
[04:38] <Ng> if you can, install memtest86+
[04:38] <_jason> jvNET, try logging in as a different user and see if you can run firefox
[04:38] <revel> hi, sorry to bug but but.. have tried everything else and get get my kernel to work, tried almost every
[04:38] <revel> possible combination with and without any patches, all goes ok but when i try to boot new kernel, it loads
[04:38] <jvNET> I havnt tried gaim running on other uysers
[04:38] <revel> normally for while.. then BUM ...  http://www.ei-heru.info/kernel1.jpg
[04:39] <jvNET> ok.. i'll be right back
[04:39] <revel> any ideas? its endless loop goes from 0 to<PHONE_NUMBER>00000 with speed of light :)
[04:39] <jvNET> brb
[04:39] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: u=you :)
[04:39] <sudharsh> revel: u installed the vanilla kernel from kernel.org?
[04:39] <_jason> sudharsh, that's just weird that we thought that at the same time...
[04:39] <revel> sud, yes with ck1 patch.
[04:39] <sudharsh> :P........gr8 minds think alike
[04:39] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: nope, it can changed if u add this line to xorg.conf in Monitor section
[04:39] <revel> sud, tried .14 version with and without patches and .15 same thing, allways same thing :(
[04:40] <Ng> revel: have you tried applying any of the ubuntu patches?
[04:40] <jvNET> omg! same error on other users
[04:40] <Ng> jvNET: test your RAM
[04:40] <sudharsh> revel: ok...u did appy the patches to base kenrel didnt u
[04:40] <jvNET> how do you test RAM?
[04:40] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: ah okay.  i just learned right now that i am already using 1024 x 768 right nw and what i want is a resolution of 1280 x 768.
[04:40] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: but dont add this line if u dont know supported that resolution or not for u notebook
[04:40] <Ng> jvNET: install memtest86+ and a new entry will appear in grub
[04:40] <revel> ng, havent found any? did everything how explained @ ubuntu forums
[04:40] <sudharsh> jvNET: boot and run memtest86+ in grub
[04:40] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: u can damage them...
[04:40] <sudharsh> thers an option
[04:41] <jvNET> ic
[04:41] <jvNET> ok.. let me check that first
[04:41] <revel> sud, with base kernel you mean my new fresh kernel? havent done anything with original one
[04:41] <jvNET> thanks guys
[04:41] <jvNET> brb
[04:41] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: what refresh rate supported with 1280 x 768?
[04:41] <Ng> revel: there's a package with them in... linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.12
[04:41] <sudharsh> revel: so u got the 2.6.15 ?
[04:41] <revel> sud, only for new ones.. bzcat patchaname.gz | patch -p1 thing
[04:41] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: so nothing happened even i entered the code you told me a while a go... the 1024 768 100 even ... ubuntu is already using that
[04:41] <sudharsh> revel: so u got the 2.6.15 ?
[04:42] <wilde> hi to all. there's someone that knows something about videomobile 3, and how is possible to download photo and video from it at ubuntu????
[04:42] <Ng> revel: I have no idea if they apply to 2.6.15 and I'd advise you not to stray too far from the included kernel unless you have to - some userspace stuff will depend on those patches
[04:42] <revel> sud, now trying .14 again, tried .15 too. now i have 2.6.12-10-386 (original) because i cant boot any newer
[04:42] <sudharsh> what bout without patches
[04:43] <revel> ng, i need to get new kernel because of cisco vpn client (needs original kernel source, which is not included with ubuntu original kernel)
[04:43] <tharglet> 'lo.... anyone can tell me where I can get thread.h so I can use mutex_lock?
[04:43] <sudharsh> well try without patches then
[04:43] <sudharsh> i m in m new kernel
[04:43] <revel> sud, without any patches, same thing.. /dev/ttyS(numbers) : no such file or dir ...
[04:44] <revel> sud, i have tried without patches.
[04:44] <wckdkl0wn> has anyone here installed cedega?
[04:44] <revel> compiled about 10 times now with all possible versions :)
[04:44] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: ask me what refresh rate supported with resolution what u want to use?
[04:44] <tharglet> Is there a proper place to get it or do I have to hunt it down n just stick it with the other c headers?
[04:44] <sudharsh> revel: well....nvr seen anythin like this...cheked with the guyz at kernel.org??
[04:44] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: thanks for your help. i dont want to use my desired resolution anymore to be safe. i entered /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf 1024 768 100
[04:44] <ryancasimiro_>  in my terminal
[04:44] <revel> sud, nope.
[04:44] <revel> asked from ubuntu forum but now answer yet.
[04:45] <revel> hopefully someone figures it out
[04:45] <zAo^> when is Flight 3 expected?
[04:45] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: wont there be any conflicts with what i have dne since my ubuntu is already using 1024 x 768 with 0 refresh rate
[04:45] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: ok, add this line to xorg.conf in Monitor section(u can delete previous modeline) and restart X
[04:45] <sudharsh> revel: i m not that kinda of a expert when it comes to weird problems like this
[04:45] <revel> hehe
[04:45] <revel> me neither
[04:45] <sudharsh> sry....check the kernel.org just in case
[04:46] <revel> this is first channel someone bothers to try tho!
[04:46] <jorgp> how well does lvm2 work?
[04:46] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: wow, 0 refresh rate, really?
[04:46] <revel> asked from local ubuntu / linux channel, such idiots they dont want to help anyone
[04:46] <sudharsh> yeah i understand...:P
[04:46] <sudharsh> ???........i didnt get u
[04:47] <tharglet> hmm
[04:47] <revel> sud, this channel and you are first who tries to help.
[04:47] <ryancasimiro_> whats this for? i am now contented with my current resolution. i got scared that my monitor will be harmed if i do something wrong..
[04:47] <sudharsh> revel: oh
[04:48] <klip> normally, you can't select a resolution which is bad for your monitor =) @ryan
[04:48] <tharglet> Can u break ur monitor other than physical abuse?
[04:48] <gnomefreak> zAo^, as of 2-3 days ago there was no date set for flight 3
[04:48] <sudharsh> revel: what does local ubuntu channel maen...excusez moi...new to irc
[04:48] <woodywarty> So guys, how do I enable scripts to run at Boot-Up ?
[04:48] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: what is the effect of entering /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf 1024 768 100
[04:48] <ryancasimiro_>  in the terminal. ubuntu is already using 1024 x 768 with refresh rate of 0
[04:48] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: ok comment previous modeline and add line got with gtf in Monitor section
[04:48] <revel> sud, finnish channel at ircnet
[04:49] <sudharsh> oh....ok
[04:49] <zAo^> gnomefreak remember it? I saw it on the forums somewhere, but cant find it :) Need a fresh install :#
[04:49] <pfarmer> woodywarty: you mean like starting a server at boot time?
[04:49] <sudharsh> but nice pic though.....
[04:49] <ryancasimiro_> what do u min? how do i do that?
[04:49] <tharglet> Does anyone know about c headers, and what ones Ubuntu has?
[04:49] <Znort> Hello, I am currently running Ubuntu but sometimes when I am using gaim the window turns black with random colored pixels. When this happens also synaptic, the terminal and kopete aren't useable anymore till reboot. What should I do?
[04:49] <pfarmer> tharglet: which one's are you after?
[04:50] <sudharsh> revel: if u r see if sudo apt-get install linux-tree helps
[04:50] <tharglet> pfarmer, thread.h
[04:50] <woodywarty> Well pfarmer, I have a script which I want to start at Boot-Up Time
[04:50] <sudharsh> Znort: do u hav a weird monitor..or a configuration?
[04:51] <woodywarty> Which means that I want that script to start at boot-time when my server restarts each time
[04:51] <revel> sud, doesnt.
[04:51] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: open xorg,conf with some redactor and past that line
[04:51] <sudharsh> revel: thers a linux-tree
[04:51] <Znort> sudharsh: what you call wierd? =P
[04:51] <BuZzY> come vedo se ho l interpreto perl installato?
[04:51] <BuZzY> sorry!!!
[04:51] <zAo^> :)
[04:51] <sudharsh> what monitor do u hav
[04:52] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: i entered /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf 1024 768 100... ubuntu is using the same resolution with a refresh rate of 0.  im afraid conflicts might happen
[04:52] <Znort> philips 107e
[04:52] <tharglet> I currently run Ubuntu in a VM, but maybe one day I'll unlazy and make my system dual-boot
[04:52] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: how do i open xorg.conf? sorry takedown im i newbie in ubuntu and doesnt know programming
[04:52] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: gtf dont changed u resolution, its just generate modeline for configuration
[04:53] <sudharsh> revel: also try installing linux-source
[04:53] <nanaem> how do i make a harddisk visible after i've partitioned it as ext3? shall i edit the fstab somehow? just point me in the right direction and maybe i'll figure it out :)
[04:53] <tharglet> ryancasimiro_, I should imagine the only thing that could happen is things don't appear on the screen. I shouldn't imagine it would break anything
[04:53] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: type sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:53] <revel> sudharsh, there is no source for original kernel.
[04:53] <gorski> i have problemas with my soundcard, what are the default settings in gstreamer-properties, please?
[04:53] <revel> sud, i have tried those also
[04:53] <sudharsh> revel: theres is in my synaptic
[04:53] <revel> sudharsh, not for my version of kernel :(
[04:54] <gnomefreak> zAo^, i havent seen it but will keep eyes open
[04:54] <gnomefreak> zAo^, no flight 3 yet i just did google for flight 3 its not been released yet
[04:54] <gnomefreak> osnews has an expect something on flight 3
[04:54] <sudharsh> revel: u  r runnin the default breezy onces...rite?
[04:54] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: opened it already. whats next?
[04:54] <zAo^> gnomefreak thnx, I know that it isnt released yet, but I wonder when it will
[04:54] <mcscruff> is there a command to see the temperature of my pc?
[04:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nanaem: Yeah, you'll probably have to edit /etc/fstab... basically, take an entry that's already there, copy it, and change the mount point and physical address.
[04:54] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: type "i"
[04:55] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: and find Monitor Section
[04:55] <revel> sud, yes. 2.6.12-10-386
[04:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nanaem: And the filesystem, if it's not ext3.
[04:55] <sudharsh> thers is mate...
[04:55] <imc_> Anyone successfully running ubuntu breezy on an iBook with WiFi running?
[04:55] <imc_> I said, anyone successfully running ubuntu breezy on an iBook with WiFi running?  :)
[04:55] <nanaem> ok, ty Pumper
[04:55] <fratta> fciao
[04:55] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: then?
[04:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nanaem: np :)
[04:55] <pfarmer> woodywarty: symlink the script into /etc/rc3.d as S99scriptname
[04:55] <fratta> why?
[04:55] <pfarmer> tharglet: what are you trying to compile?
[04:56] <fratta> i love you
[04:56] <keleksi> <3
[04:56] <Znort> Anybody has an idea why gaim turns black with random colored pixels all of a sudden?
[04:56] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: type "#" before current modeline
[04:57] <sudharsh> k gotta bail.........bye
[04:57] <sudharsh> revel: i suggest u check the kernel.org mailing lists
[04:57] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: i cant see any current modeline?
[04:57] <tharglet> pfarmer, a piece of coursework... found a copy of it to put in with the files... hopefully it should work
[04:57] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: and copy modeline generated with gtf
[04:58] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: whats the goal of what we're doing?
[04:58] <pfarmer> tharglet: try installing apt-file and then running "sudo apt-file update" and then "sudo apt-file search thread.h"
[04:59] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: find Section Monitor
[05:00] <lukus001> Hey everyone, i just installed the new version of ubuntu (breezy badger?) but synaptic package manger wont load up and a few of the other process under system >administration
[05:00] <ryancasimiro_> i think we're not thinking the same.. what i want to do is to delete the line that i made i gtf
[05:00] <tharglet> pfarmer, apt-file ain't vaild
[05:01] <gnomefreak> lukus001, do any of the system>admin apps work?
[05:01] <wckdkl0wn> how do i kill a program thats running that i cant close?
[05:01] <gorski> can somebody help me with sound configuration, please!?
[05:01] <kemik> wckdkl0wn: alt+f2 : type xkill and klick program
[05:01] <gorski> can somebody help me with sound configuration, please!?
[05:01] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: damn just find Section Monitor in conf
[05:01] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: i dont know if im right but when i entered 1024 768 100 in gtk, didnt it edit gtk? i  want o undo that...
[05:02] <_jason> lukus001, does a password prompt appear?
[05:02] <kemik> wckdkl0wn: or in CLI "pkill <applicationname>"
[05:02] <tharglet> pfarmer, Also found out that header has a bunch of depenancies....
[05:02] <lukus001> gonefreak: printer work, but the ones that need a password prompt for a password but never load
[05:02] <pfarmer> tharglet: you'll need to install the correct package
[05:03] <tharglet> pfarmer, yeah - will that be in Synaptic?
[05:03] <lukus001> device manager etc.. works... synaptic, networking etc.. dont
[05:03] <gnomefreak> lukus001, are you sure its the right password you are using?
[05:03] <Lil-Abner> Good morning. Can anyone tell what the system requirements are for installing Ubuntu?
[05:03] <kemik> lukus001: fire up a terminal and try "sudo -i"
[05:03] <_jason> lukus001, did you enable root for some reason?
[05:03] <gorski> can somebody help me with sound configuration, please!?
[05:03] <lukus001> gnomefreak: i only ever use one password
[05:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Lil-Abner: 386 or compatible machine, or higher.
[05:04] <tharglet> lukus001, Did u set a root pass, if u need one?
[05:04] <gnomefreak> 128mb ram help too
[05:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Lil-Abner: It might be a bit slow on a 386, but it will run.
[05:04] <kemik> tharglet: you shouldnt set a rootpass
[05:04] <kemik> tharglet: use sudo/gksudo
[05:04] <tharglet> kemik, Why not?
[05:04] <pfarmer> tharglet: yeah - but you need to know which package to install - thread.h appears in quite a few packages
[05:04] <lukus001> kemik: i tried sudo -i, prompted password, entered, nothing
[05:04] <tharglet> kemik, That always doesn't work for me
[05:05] <_jason> lukus001, paste what the command 'groups' returns
[05:05] <tharglet> pfarmer, I just need the header... what are the packages it's in?
[05:05] <lukus001> tharglet: i remember entering a root password during installation
[05:05] <kemik> tharglet: guess you're doing something wrong then :X
[05:05] <klip> tharglet: if you always set a rootpass, your system is not as save as with sudo
[05:05] <tharglet> lukus001, Hmm, didn't on my Ubuntu
[05:05] <pfarmer> tharglet: what does the code you're compiling do
[05:05] <tharglet> klip, Ah well, this is just a VM anyway
[05:05] <kemik> lukus001: the installation doesnt ask for a root password
[05:05] <klip> there is a sense why there is a command like sudo : )
[05:05] <lukus001> _jason: for sudo -i you mean?
[05:06] <_jason> lukus001, no, normal terminal
[05:06] <Lil-Abner> PuMpErNickle: Thanks. I have a P2 with 450mhz, 512mb memory, and 13Gb hdd.
[05:06] <gnomefreak> lukus001, the installer never asks for a root password
[05:06] <tharglet> kemik, If this gets hacked to bits, there's no sensitive info in it, lol
[05:06] <LostFrog> Lil-Abner: that is more than sufficient.
[05:06] <lukus001> gnomefreak, even in expert install?
[05:06] <lukus001> _jason, what o you mean by command groups then :s
[05:06] <kemik> tharglet: sure, still there are reasons to not be root, like, it's harder to accidentally wipe /etc ;)
[05:06] <Znort> Did anybody succeed in emulatiog windows via wine the way that World of Warcraft is playable?
[05:07] <gnomefreak> lukus001, it shouldnt no
[05:07] <gnomefreak> !rootsudo
[05:07] <ubotu> rumour has it, rootsudo is explained at  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo   also see /msg ubotu root
[05:07] <Lil-Abner> I just ordered the disks. I have a linux system on it now, but as a newbie to linux, it's a litte difficult to get the thing working right.
[05:07] <_jason> lukus001, go to accessories -> terminal and type 'groups', that's all :)
[05:07] <nikls_> something is wrong in this syntax, can someone tell me where is the error ? => wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/scim/scim*
[05:07] <balzac> hello
[05:07] <klip> Znort: I know that Starcraft and Warcraft 3 run on with WinE
[05:07] <kemik> lukus001: type 'groups' in a terminal
[05:07] <lukus001> Gnomefreak, well it did say i should set up a root password and asked for it, then asked me to set up a user... so shoud i be setting up a root password now somehow?
[05:07] <tharglet> kemik, I have snapshots for me breaking my system :D And the 3 files I care about I back up
[05:07] <balzac> i'm having one hell of a time trying to install my Intel 537EP modem on breezy
[05:07] <arrinmurr> Znort: try #winehq
[05:07] <lukus001> lukus001@Verpix:~$ groups
[05:07] <lukus001> lukus001 adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[05:07] <klip> Znort: It'r form Blizzard, too, should work somehow.
[05:07] <kemik> Znort: i think Cedega works good with WoW
[05:08] <gorski> can somebody help me with sound configuration, please!?
[05:08] <balzac> i installed gcc 3.4, gcc 3.4 base and cpp 3.4
[05:08] <Znort> klip: Thank you. Some people seem to have succeeded in it
[05:08] <Znort> It should work with wine
[05:08] <_jason> lukus001, you aren't a part of the admin group which is why you have no superuser privileges
[05:08] <kemik> tharglet: so do i... :)
[05:08] <balzac> i did CC=gcc-3.4 , Export CC
[05:08] <_jason> lukus001, is this the user account you created during install?
[05:08] <balzac> then tried to compile the driver
[05:08] <balzac> no dice!
[05:08] <lukus001> _jason, yeah
[05:08] <tharglet> kemik, if I ever dualboot my system, I'll get my sudo to behave
[05:08] <woland_> anyone got a guide to installing vmware on ubuntu?
[05:09] <Lil-Abner> Thanks, all. What irc program is bundled with ubuntu? I'm using mIRC on this machine and kopete on the linux machine.
[05:09] <_jason> lukus001, we're going to have to add your user back into the admin group
[05:09] <tharglet> woland_, lol, I've done that the other way around....
[05:09] <balzac> xchat
[05:09] <tharglet> Lil-Abner, xchat
[05:09] <_jason> lukus001, are you able to get superuser privileges some other way so that we can edit /etc/group?  or will we have to boot up a livecd?
[05:09] <zAo^> woland_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare?highlight=%28vmware%29  ....
[05:09] <zAo^> wiki people..
[05:09] <pfarmer> tharglet: the list of packages - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7006
[05:10] <kemik> _jason: you can boot in recovery/safe mode from grub ... no need for the livecd i think
[05:10] <lukus001> _jason not a clue i'm afiad?
[05:10] <Lil-Abner> Thank you, tharglet. I'm going to go offline, thanks again for the information and I look forward to being a part of the ubuntu family! bye
[05:10] <_jason> kemik, what are you supposed to do when it prompts for a root password?  I never figured that out
[05:10] <kemik> _jason: dont think it prompts for a password.. at least it didnt here
[05:11] <woland_> thanks zAo^
[05:11] <_jason> kemik, oh, maybe I missed a setting.  If you can guide lukus001 throught it, that would work.  otherwise we can just use the livecd lukus001
[05:11] <tharglet> pfarmer, how can I get the packages? Or install them?
[05:12] <kemik> _jason: cant really guide him thru, sitting in windows now cus i have to record stuff :|
[05:12] <tharglet> pfarmer, Thought it was just something like apt-get <fname>
[05:12] <pfarmer> tharglet: apt-get install <packagename> - but you don't want all those packages
[05:12] <_jason> lukus001, okay, can you boot your computer up from the livecd and then rejoin us here in irc?
[05:12] <kemik> _jason: so go with the livecd approach =) (or just try booting up in safe mode, it's an option in the grub-menu)
[05:12] <zAo^> gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight3?highlight=%28flight%29  huh??
[05:12] <pfarmer> tharglet: you need to be clearer on what this code does so someone can tell which thread.h you need
[05:12] <tharglet> pfarmer, I'm gonna get the c++ header one
[05:12] <gnomefreak> hold on ill look
[05:12] <lukus001> _jason i dont have a live cd, only the normal install one (i burnt the cd myself
[05:13] <lukus001> _jason so id have to download it first
[05:13] <tharglet> pfarmer, the cpp header should do the job
[05:13] <_jason> lukus001, ok
[05:13] <tharglet> pfarmer, couldn't find package :'(
[05:13] <gorski> can somebody help me with sound configuration, please!?
[05:14] <lukus001> _jason but, on the other hand i want to dual boot with a second installation of linux, ubuntu again - if i did that and set it up properly.. lol i could edit the other partition?
[05:14] <pfarmer> tharglet: do a "sudo apt-get install libsigc++-dev
[05:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> gorski: What's the problem?
[05:14] <_jason> lukus001, yeah probably
[05:14] <kemik> what's the package called that customizes GiMP to behave like Photoshop `
[05:14] <kemik> ?
[05:14] <veriz> a2enmod fcgid
[05:14] <gorski> i can get my mic working
[05:14] <tharglet> pfarmer, Tried that one too :(
[05:14] <veriz> how i can disable a2enmod fcgid?
[05:14] <siliconwizzard> I'm trying to download and install GDM themes off the web. I save the tar.gz files and when I try and install them I get "INVALID FILE FORMAT" can anybody help? thx
[05:14] <kemik> gorski: state your question
[05:15] <kemik> gorski: try "alsamixer" and enable the 2nd mic-option
[05:15] <lukus001> _jason, do you know how to install a second linux OS?
[05:15] <tharglet> pfarmer, am I a repository short or something?
[05:15] <_jason> lukus001, I have no experience doing it, sry
[05:15] <lukus001> _jason okay, np ty for your help
[05:15] <gnomefreak> zAo^, they are not added to server yet but looks like this week sometime
[05:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lukus001: I do.
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> I'm having some trouble with suspend, where it never gets all the way sleeping and comes back immediatly.  # tail /var/log/acpid mentions grep: /proc/acpi/fan/*/state: No such file or directory.  What should I do?
[05:16] <gorski> what are the settings in gstreamer-properties, please?
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> (/proc/acpi/fan/ is empty.)
[05:16] <kemik> lukus001: what's the point of dualbooting 2 ubuntus? =X
[05:16] <zAo^> gnomefreak discovered that too :) thnx
[05:16] <lukus001> PuMpErNiCkLe, can you explain how its done then please?
[05:16] <pfarmer> tharglet: pastebin you /etc/apt/source.list
[05:16] <gnomefreak> yw Zanoi
[05:16] <lukus001> kemik, one for experiment /unstable
[05:16] <gnomefreak> zAo^,
[05:17] <xiaogil> how to download a directory using wget ?
[05:17] <gorski> i tryed the second mic, but the problem stays
[05:17] <lukus001> kemik, i have to use the pc for work so messing up my main OS is a no no
[05:17] <xiaogil> or how to download all files for which the name begin with abc* ?
[05:17] <xiaogil> with wget
[05:17] <gnomefreak> are they going to change our bugzilla link to foward us to launchpad?
[05:17] <pfarmer> tharglet: libsigc++-dev is in universe
[05:17] <_jason> lukus001, I'm gonna go grab breakfast.  If you get to edit /etc/group before I return:  just add your username to the end of the line that begins with 'admin'.  The syntax will be clear.
[05:17] <Ng> _jason: !
[05:18] <lukus001> _jason, okay - thank you very much
[05:18] <kemik> lukus001: i c :)
[05:18] <Ng> what's wrong with "adduser someusername somegroupname"?
[05:18] <Ng> editing /etc/passwd and /etc/group by hand is never a good plan
[05:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lukus001: unmounted ext3 filesystems can be resized, I believe (I keep a spare partition so I don't have to go through that) so when you go to install the new linux os, resize a partition to make room and install on the free space you just made.
[05:18] <_jason> Ng, he has no sudo access
[05:18] <siliconwizzard> I'm trying to download and install GDM themes off the web. I save the tar.gz files and when I try and install them I get "INVALID FILE FORMAT" can anybody help? thx
[05:18] <tharglet> pfarmer, universe????
[05:18] <Ng> _jason: reboot into recovery mode then
[05:18] <kemik> lukus001: if you reboot, when the grub-thing appears, choose so you can boot into safemode, it should give you a rootprompt
[05:19] <pixelfairy> im starting to think some things (nvidia drivers, packages that change quickly) are better left out of package systems. gaim used to be like that, but 1.5 been pretty stable
[05:19] <kemik> lukus001: from there, edit your /etc/group as _jason said
[05:19] <_jason> Ng, if you can walk him through that, go for it.  I've always gotten a prompt for a root password when i tried it
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> siliconwizzard, How were you trying to install them?
[05:19] <tharglet> pfarmer, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7007
[05:19] <siliconwizzard> theme manager
[05:19] <Ng> _jason: you only get prompted for a root password if you've set a root password
[05:19] <_jason> Ng, I've set and disabled it
[05:19] <siliconwizzard> pref>theme
[05:20] <lukus001> PuMpErNiCkLe, when i installed this current ver of ubuntu, i left an empty a partition with no mount name ? what name would i ahve to give it (for example my current one got call "/")
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> siliconwizzard, Do it through Admin>Login Screen.
[05:20] <lukus001> Kemik, i go try that in a few mins, ty
[05:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lukus001: For a new linux install, it would also be '/'.
[05:20] <Ng> _jason: well you either founnd a bug or disabled it incorrectly then
[05:20] <kemik> lukus001: np
[05:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lukus001: That's how the new install will view it... if you want to mount that partition in another os, you can set it to be whatever you want.
[05:21] <lukus001> PuMpErNiCkLe, ah, so it wont conflict with my current one?
[05:21] <_jason> Ng, I just did sudo passwd -l root
[05:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lukus001: nope :)
[05:21] <gorski> what are the settings in gstreamer-properties, please?
[05:21] <_jason> Ng, but I'll check in a little while to be sure
[05:21] <lukus001> PuMpErNiCkLe, thank you also =)
[05:21] <pfarmer> tharglet: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7008
[05:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lukus001: np :)
[05:21] <lukus001> Thanks everyone, ill vee ofline for a while - hope it all goes well
[05:21] <lukus001> be*
[05:21] <veriz> can anyone plz help me: i enabled this: a2enmod fcgid but how i can disable it ?:S
[05:22] <pfarmer> tharglet: then go "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install libsigc++-dev"
[05:22] <tharglet> pfarmer, Ahh, I see 2 commented out repositories
[05:22] <takedown_> veriz: that is kernel module?
[05:22] <tharglet> pfarmer, I need those
[05:22] <veriz> takedown_: apache2
[05:23] <takedown_> veriz: just delete apache if u dont need it
[05:23] <veriz> i just needed the command a2dismod :D nvm
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> You know what would be kind of slick?  If mousing over the little workspace icons and holding there for a second would show a thumbnail preview of that workspace.
[05:25] <tuskernini> hi there all
[05:26] <tuskernini> i was wandering if anyone can help me sort out my sound problem... i can not hear the sound... but it looks like it plays... (not muted) cant record eather
[05:26] <LostFrog> Ubuntu takes a long time to install on a G3 300.
[05:26] <Znort> Anybody knows what's the minimum disk space for ubuntu 5.10?
[05:26] <tuskernini> i would gues... 300 is not that fast... i installed it on a 450 and it also went slow
[05:27] <mjr> Znort, I believe about 2 gigs for a default desktop install
[05:27] <LostFrog> I am thinking about trying to OC it to 400.
[05:28] <tuskernini> if you only install breezy server... 500 MB
[05:28] <Znort> mjr: I tried to install it today but it needed at least 24gig :S
[05:28] <mjr> Znort, if it said it needed, it lied
[05:28] <Ng> 24?
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> Znort, 24??  There's no way.
[05:28] <Ng> impressive for something that comes on a single 700mb cd ;)
[05:28] <LostFrog> 24GB.. lol
[05:28] <MacSlow> GGreetings everybody!
[05:28] <mjr> or there was some misunderstanding
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> Znort, The official requirements are on the web site somewhere, but it's a little tricky to find them.
[05:29] <LostFrog> Maybe 24Gigabit.
[05:29] <BuZzY> how good is postnuke?
[05:29] <tharglet> pfarmer, YAY! Found the thing now, thanx :D Will let u know if the headers are in one piece in a min...
[05:29] <Znort> mjr: I said it to resize the existing partition. I gave 10gig but it said it wasnt enough :S
[05:29] <thegladiator> are there any mainframes running on ubuntu ?
[05:29] <thegladiator> or do mainframes prefer to build their own OS?
[05:30] <MacSlow> Does someone know why totem (with the gstreamer-backend) slow down after about 2-3 seconds when playing back a mpg?
[05:30] <Ng> thegladiator: they generally are architectures that ubuntu doesn't support, e.g. z390
[05:30] <kemik> totem-gstreamer is horrible
[05:30] <thegladiator> i see
[05:30] <thegladiator> MacSlow, install totem-xine ...thats prefered . are you on kde /gnome ?
[05:30] <tuskernini> install totem-xine works better than gstreamer
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Someone told me the other day that there is a z-architecture ubuntu being devoloped by somebody.  Have you heard anything about that?
[05:31] <Ng> the gstreamer backend should be significantly better in dapper :)
[05:31] <MacSlow> thegladiator, *sigh* still xine... ok... I thought gstreamer would be "useable" by now.
[05:31] <Ng> tonyyarusso: nope, I don't really work with mainframes at all
[05:31] <kemik> Ng: lets hope so :)
[05:31] <kemik> Ng: but will gstreamer ever be able to decode .wmv / .dvd etc ?
[05:31] <thegladiator> MacSlow, try out closing other apps if you have any running , like for instance when I had karamba running in KDE totem played very slowly
[05:31] <MacSlow> thegladiator, I guess only 0.10 will bring solid usability
[05:31] <kemik> or will it infringe on patents?
[05:32] <Ng> kemik: it can decode some of them now with the ffmpeg plugin, but yes, they are improving such things in 0.10
[05:32] <MacSlow> thegladiator, I'm using gnome. I don't use kramaba
[05:32] <thegladiator> Ng, the latest gstreamer is a good ?
[05:32] <kemik> oki
[05:32] <Ng> thegladiator: I haven't used it yet myself, I'm going by reports from the developers of what they've been doing to it
[05:32] <JDigital> o hey guys
[05:32] <thegladiator> Ng, ah i see
[05:32] <Ng> one of them was fixing bugs relating to playing wmv in the totem firefox plugin the other day :)
[05:32] <JDigital> How do I make my scanner work in Linux
[05:33] <tharglet> pfarmer, were ur results pthread or thread?
[05:33] <Ng> JDigital: hopefully just plug it in and use Sane
[05:33] <JDigital> XSane isn't noticing it
[05:33] <Ng> ah
[05:33] <Ng> is it a supported model?
[05:33] <JDigital> I don't know.
[05:33] <pestilence> could somebody help me with getting opengl to work in hoary?
[05:33] <pestilence> i get this error
[05:33] <pestilence> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[05:33] <Ng> JDigital: try a quick google for the make, model and "linux"
[05:33] <pestilence> but im not using an nvidia card....i have an intel 855GM
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> :) how about ' what model scanner is it?'
[05:34] <JDigital> unsupported :(
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> and a http://www.sane-project.org/   check.
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> could be sane support is being worked on.
[05:34] <pestilence> and i use the i810 driver
[05:34] <tharglet> pfarmer, (Know searches often don't distinguish one preceded by a p, and the other one not)
[05:35] <JDigital> http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/umax-astraslim-6000.html
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> Hmm...can't seem to get to the profile manager after installing Firefox 1.5.  Anyone know why?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> JDigital,  :(
[05:36] <pestilence> tonyyarusso: what about "firefox -ProfileManager" ?
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> pestilence, Just opens FF normally.
[05:36] <pestilence> tonyyarusso: that's all i've got ;)
[05:36] <matt__> I am wondering how to run a certain command prompt on startup
[05:37] <Ng> matt__: what kind of command? is it something that should be run by the system or something you want started when you log in?
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> pestilence, All right.
[05:37] <pfarmer> tharglet: thread.h not pthread.h - did the c++ dev package not help?
[05:37] <matt__> i need to run apachectl stop and then apache -k start
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> matt__, Gnome, another wm/de or terminal only?
[05:38] <tharglet> pfarmer, after installing, the compile failed, and then a search on my HD didn't show anything new
[05:38] <cello_rasp> I'm trying to mount a samba share via bash for a user, yet because mount can only be run by root, the mount point (normally owned by the user) is read-only. "mount -t smbfs //ixion/public /home/thomas/Desktop/public -o username=public,password=public,fmask=755,dmask=755,rw" .. how do i give the user permission to this mount point? the server side is fine with all permissions btw.