[00:00] <flyback> julie: no I did it
[00:00] <julie> and?
[00:00] <Ganymede> Never mind, I updated the postremoval script manually and fixed the error by adding -f after rm
[00:00] <flyback> problem was X bin process was surronded by long strings of text on both sides
[00:00] <flyback> so my mind didn't see it
[00:00] <flyback> it'spart of the brain rot
[00:01] <flyback> I got it, thx guys
[00:01] <mediawork> my lm-sensor or gnome sensor applet 2.2.5 is giving me completely funny cpu temps
[00:01] <adnap> i have just install ubuntu 11.  i had problems with my wifi card using ubuntu 10, but currently i cannot even connect to my router.  dmesg shows that the wireless card timed out trying to authenticate.
[00:01] <mrdeb> why is gnome 3 faster than unity
[00:02] <Dwade09> if i extract a os iso, into a external hard drive, would i be able to load into the external hard drive to install the os?
[00:02] <julie> mediawork, I got that too on my netbook but there's nothing much you can do about it
[00:02] <mediawork> I know they are wrong because my bios is set to warn me when the temp goes above 70 deg C... however, the lm-sensor seems to be getting 75 frequently
[00:02] <bazhang> mrdeb, thats not a real question, besides, gnome3 is an unsupported ppa
[00:02] <mrdeb> mediawork: try acpi app in terminal for accurate info
[00:02] <MonkeyDust> mrdeb: 'why' is a philosophical question
[00:03] <mrdeb> ok bazhang
[00:03] <DasEi> mediawork: haven't tried yet, but looks promising, feedback would be nice : http://tinyurl.com/6ehmmlo
[00:03] <flyback> julie: whatever's been eating my brain the last few yrs, I have gone from being able to pinpoint something in a pile of shit, to not seeing objects in front of me
[00:03] <flyback> oh well
[00:03] <julie> Dwade09, this would require advanced hacking skills and is beyond what is supported here
[00:04] <flyback> thx again
[00:04] <FloodBot1> flyback: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:04] <valeria> ActionParsnip, nothing
[00:05] <DasEi> Dwade09: you can make grub boot the iso from an external and then install from it, sure
[00:05] <julie> Dwade09, the simplest alternative is with a USB drive
[00:05] <mediawork> mrdeb:   just ran apt-get install acpi
[00:05] <mediawork> mrdeb: now executing acpi, returns an error..
[00:05] <davo1234> hey i have a Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) and i cannot connect to the internet or bring up any wireless signals
[00:05] <valeria> ActionParsnip, I've booted windows, audio works, in ubuntu not
[00:05] <mediawork> mrdeb: root@hroi-GA-880GM-D2H:/home/mediawork# acpi    No support for device type: power_supply
[00:06] <mrdeb> mediawork: apci -t
[00:06] <Dwade09> julie,  this gave me the idea http://www.pcworld.com/article/165159/install_windows_7_from_an_external_hard_drive.html
[00:06] <soreau> davo1234: Is it an hp laptop with a wifi switch by chance?
[00:06] <adnap> hello?
[00:06] <mrdeb> hello adnap. welcom
[00:06] <adnap> hi
[00:06] <adnap> i posted my problem a few minutes ago
[00:06] <JokesOnYou77> hi all
[00:06] <mediawork> mrdeb:  acpi -t    returned nothing.
[00:06] <davo1234> soreau: its a hp g60-458dx
[00:06] <mediawork> mrdeb: no error now app now window nothing
[00:06] <adnap> i am having problems connecting to my wifi hotspot having just installed ubuntu 11
[00:07] <adnap> i have an intel ultimate-n 5300 wifi card
[00:07] <bazhang> !wifi | adnap please have a read
[00:07] <soreau> davo1234: I think you just have to load a module that isn't loaded by default
[00:07] <Maylow> !wifi | adnap please have a read
[00:07] <Maylow> ops
[00:07] <DasEi> flyback: fyi I now fired up vm with unity, so you want to log aout btw change the default session ?
[00:07] <mediawork> mrdeb:   I looked also into /proc/acpi/thermal... and there is nothing there
[00:08] <soreau> davo1234: sudo modprobe hp-wmi
[00:08] <JokesOnYou77> Can anyone tell me how to change my gfx cards output from pal to NTSC in 11.04?  There's no xorg.conf anymore
[00:08] <mrdeb> mediawork: maybe yoru system doesnt give it
[00:08] <mediawork> mrdeb: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/
[00:08] <DasEi> flyback: ?
[00:08] <soreau> davo1234: See if that changes anything for you
[00:08] <mediawork> mrdeb: lm-sensor app is then just guessing lol...
[00:08] <plectrum> JokesOnYou77: you can create an xorg.conf and it will be used by X AFAIK
[00:08] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: xorg.conf is still respected, if present
[00:08] <davo1234> soreau: k ill try that
[00:08] <DasEi> JokesOnYou77: you can still create and use one, if nvidia-settings doesn't offer your needs
[00:09] <mediawork> mrdeb: no wonder temp is increasing silly fast
[00:09] <plectrum> I have a weir problem, it says disk is full but I have 20% left (from df -h) and reserved block on the filesystem is 5%
[00:10] <mrdeb> mediawork: what is yoru graphic card
[00:10] <JokesOnYou77> I'm using an ATI card that I think is outputting PAL, do I need to create an entire xorg.conf file from scratch? Is there a basic one I can download and alter?
[00:10] <mediawork> mrdeb:  its an onboard rubbish card
[00:10] <davo1234> soreau: do i have to restart then?
[00:10] <JokesOnYou77> ATI 9600pro
[00:10] <mrdeb> ok
[00:11] <mediawork> mrdeb: my case is standing open, I am looking at the fan, hardly moving and silent, I am toughint the heatsink, just slightly warm
[00:11] <mrdeb> no, xorg should work automatically
[00:11] <mrdeb> mediawork: what is the cpu and why are you worried? what is your cpu
[00:11] <soreau> davo1234: Also do this: rfkill unblock wifi
[00:11] <mediawork> mrdeb:  its amd phenom x4
[00:11] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: What makes you think it's outputting PAL?
[00:12] <mediawork> mrdeb:  according to amd, the cpu should chut itself down at 80 degs... its not doing any such thing
[00:12] <mrdeb> mediawork: are the bios temps ok?
[00:12] <soreau> davo1234: After that, you should be able to enable the wifi with the switch and see the AP's
[00:12] <DasEi> flyback: ?
[00:12] <julie> JokesOnYou77, you could start by running "Xorg -configure"
[00:12] <mediawork> mediawork:   I dont know where to see the bios temps.
[00:12] <davo1234> soreau: k did that still not showing signals should i restart?
[00:12] <soreau> julie: No, that is for the proprietary driver which hasn't supported his card in several years now
[00:12] <soreau> davo1234: rfkill unblock too?
[00:13] <JokesOnYou77> Soreau: I'm trying to connect to this old rear-projection TV with the S-video out and the picture is black and white.  I found a post in the forums about my card with this problem
[00:13] <plectrum> any ideas why I get 'disk is full' although I have 20% free space?
[00:13] <davo1234> soreau: yes i did that too
[00:13] <soreau> davo1234: Do you have a switch to enable/disable wifi?
[00:13] <mediawork> mrdeb:  I dont know where to see the bios temps.
[00:13] <JokesOnYou77> said changing to NTSC-M fixed it
[00:13] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: You can change it with xrandr I believe
[00:14] <davo1234> soreau: yes its a button
[00:14] <mediawork> mrdeb: actually what I am looking at is called temp1...
[00:14] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: is there a file I can edit? or a manpage i should look at?
[00:14] <mediawork> mrdeb: maybe this is not the cpu...
[00:14] <hermanlf> I'm using 10.04-2 LTS AMD64 and installed VLC media player. Why am I unable to add files to the queue from an SMB share just like I can in Totem Player?  Anyway to fix this?
[00:15] <soreau> davo1234: Try reloading the module. What is the output of 'lsmod|grep ath'? ath5k or ath9k
[00:15] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: sec
[00:15] <mrdeb> mediawork: the bios will show you cpu temperature. if the temps are stable fhtere for a while, with case closed, and you put the heatsink on properly, then you are ok
[00:16] <adnap> my wireless card has been detected and the interface is up.  i simply cannot connect to my access point.  here is the output from dmesg since disconnecting from ethernet and trying to connect via wifi: http://pastebin.com/GNnGPKb1
[00:16] <Kayne> hello? um i kind of need some help here,  I don't know what I am doing .
[00:16] <DasEi> !details | Kayne
[00:17] <mrdeb> mediawork: do you konw what the cpu looks like
[00:17] <mediawork> mrdeb: I booted into my bios earlier to look at the temp... yes the temp is stable at 42ish, but the bios is not really making the cpu work hard, does it?
[00:17] <Kayne> Well,  i usually run windows, but my  Media hard drive stopped being read in windows and someone told me to run unbutu.  so i  downloaded it onto  a usb and  told my computer to run it on the next boot.  I got a screen of errors , and then the red unbutu screen,
[00:17] <mrdeb> mediawork: no, it's not
[00:18] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
[00:18] <Kayne> then a wall of  code, followed by the same  running screen of errors, and now it seems like its in a loop
[00:18] <mrdeb> Kayne: did you use the usb creator to make the usb stick bootable?
[00:18] <Kayne> yes i did
[00:18] <mrdeb> and it worked
[00:18] <mediawork> mrdeb: yes, I know how it looks, i put it in, and put on a vindicator heatsink, with nordic silver something gel.
[00:18] <DasEi> Kayne: could you boot to desktop or not ?
[00:18] <mediawork> "artic silver"
[00:19] <Kayne> yo windows, yes  i can,
[00:19] <mrdeb> mediawork: ok. you should be ok. im not sure why your temps are not showing up. they should be with acpi
[00:19] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: What is the output of: xrandr --verbose|grep "tv standard"
[00:19] <antoiner_roquent> Hi. I have a question about using the terminal that should be pretty simple to answer.
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> antoiner_roquent: ask away
[00:19] <davo1234> soreau: ok heres a pastbin http://pastebin.com/6KRmrVWF
[00:19] <Kayne> it keeps saying  "kill it"
[00:19] <mediawork> mrdeb: yeah, and lm-sensor is showing some temp, but have no clue what temp... think its supposed to be cpu.
[00:19] <davo1234> soreau: grep ath freezes
[00:19] <antoiner_roquent> If I run a command like "Ping such and such IP" or try to use "TCPDUMP on a eth0 connection that isn't connected" or anything else where it will "time out" how do I get the terminal to give me back a command line?
[00:20] <mrdeb> mediawork: maybe it shows something else
[00:20] <JokesOnYou77> tv standard: pal
[00:20] <JokesOnYou77> that's answers that
[00:20] <DasEi> antoiner_roquent: you can ctrl-c to end a entered command
[00:20] <adnap> hell again
[00:20] <adnap> hello
[00:20] <mediawork> mrdeb: yeah... and guess its not really possible to burn out a modern cpu, is it?.... is should just stop itself before it does..
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> antoiner_roquent: try:  ping -c 4 server    instead. You can press CTRL+C to end a bormal ping which will ping forever
[00:20] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: Ok now to set it, try this: xrandr --output S-video --set "tv standard" ntsc
[00:20] <DasEi> antoiner_roquent: apart from it , sudo ping it and make sure no firewall is blocking your probe
[00:20] <antoiner_roquent> Oh ok!
[00:20] <mrdeb> mediawork: probably not, but i would want to see the temps for a while myself
[00:21] <adnap> not sure if i should just keep polling when i don't get a response
[00:21] <antoiner_roquent> Does Ubuntu have a built in firewall?
[00:21] <julie> mediawork, that's false, it is still very easy to burn a CPU
[00:21] <soreau> davo1234: Looks like the module might not be loaded. You said your card was a 5001?
[00:21] <mrdeb> julie: based on what facts do you say this
[00:21] <Kayne> the drive i was trying to get the data off  is connected to the computer and it si still apparently invisible to wondows  "computer" area  though  windows recobnizes it is plugged in.  i had that problem when this was a usb drive as well  . but now its inside the computer, and  unbutu  won't  run beyond the errors i am seeing
[00:21] <DasEi> antoiner_roquent: yes, ufw, but mostly not active
[00:21] <julie> on the facts that I burned 2 last year
[00:21] <mediawork> mrdeb: I base mine on hearsay.
[00:21] <antoiner_roquent> ok cool thank you very much DadEi!
[00:22] <antoiner_roquent> DasEi rather.
[00:22] <antoiner_roquent> :)
[00:22] <plectrum> any ideas why I get 'disk is full' although I have 20% free space?
[00:22] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: You're a genious!!!!
[00:22] <mediawork> mrdeb: julie: lets take off our heat-sinks!
[00:22] <soreau> davo1234: Try loading the module with 'sudo modprobe ath5k' and then check for AP's with 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i ssid'
[00:22] <JokesOnYou77> I've got color!
[00:22] <adnap> plectrum: maybe you use that 'trash' thing
[00:22] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: I have the same card :)
[00:22] <JokesOnYou77> :)
[00:22] <davo1234> soreau: ok ill try that yes my card is 5001
[00:23] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: I am working on getting more tv-out resolutions in the driver (instead of the hardcoded 800x600)
[00:23] <DasEi> antoiner_roquent: to check, if sudo ping times out, can do a : sudo ufw disable
[00:23] <julie> mediawork, mrdeb:  there is indeed pretty good protection but don't count on it, my 2 CPUs had functioning fans and enabled BIOS protection!
[00:23] <JokesOnYou77> is this a permanent solution or will i need to run it after reboot?
[00:24] <adnap> actually, my problem is right here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/783443
[00:24] <Treaver> Can someone help me please
[00:24] <adnap> that sucks
[00:24] <adnap> should have searched for that before i upgraded
[00:24] <mediawork> julie: mrdeb: maybe my cpu actually reports wrong temperatures... however toms hardware says the amd phenom II have excellent thermometers.
[00:25] <Treaver> I've searched tutorials, forums, and everything. I'm a complete noob with linux, I'm using Fedora, I need to install WPN111 Netgear USB driver, so I can get online
[00:25] <Treaver> Please
[00:25] <adnap> i guess now is as good a time as ever to try arch linux
[00:25] <julie> mediawork, if you look in the BIOS, do you get the same readings?
[00:25] <davo1234> soreau: ok im finally getting a signal from my network
[00:25] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: Oh for it to default to ntsc, you should probably create a simple xorg.conf
[00:25] <DasEi> adnap: was fine in lucid ? check the backports then and blacklist the natty-module
[00:25] <soreau> davo1234: Awesome
[00:25] <davo1234> soreau: thank you
[00:25] <mediawork> its silly if they are wrong, my watch can measure a temp to within a couple of degrees C
[00:25] <Kayne> hello?
[00:25] <adnap> DasEi: i wouldn't say my wireless was exactly fine in lucid
[00:25] <DasEi> Kayne: here
[00:25] <adnap> DasEi: i could connect to an ap though
[00:25] <julie> mediawork, mrdeb: as I mentioned earlier, my netbook also reports the wrong temp in lm-sensors
[00:25] <Treaver> Can someone please help me
[00:25] <Kayne> okay can someone tell me what i did wrong?
[00:25] <mediawork> julie: no, in the bios I get 42...
[00:26] <soreau> davo1234: Now why these modules weren't loaded by default, I don't know but you can put hp-wmi and ath5k on separate lines in /etc/modules for them to get loaded at boot time
[00:26] <DasEi> !ask | Treaver
[00:26] <julie> mediawork, and with lm-sensors?
[00:26] <mediawork> deg C... which is a bit high I actually think,... but I guess the bios is not throttling down the cpu.
[00:26] <Treaver> DasEi, ubottu, I did ask!
[00:26] <adnap> lol, i like how you guys have so many canned responses for people
[00:26] <mediawork> julie: idle with lm-sensor, I read 32 deg
[00:26] <mediawork> C
[00:26] <soreau> davo1234: I am not completely sure you need hp-wmi for your situation but ath5k is the linux device driver for your card
[00:26] <mediawork> which I think is reasonable
[00:26] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: Could I just write a quick bash script with that line and tell it to run on start up? It's a quick and dirty fix but I'm not too concerned.  Also, my picture is shifted up and to the right
[00:26] <DasEi> Treaver: haven't seen you initial question, ubott.. is the channel ro-bot
[00:26] <Treaver> How do I install the driver WPN111 on Fedora OS, Linux. I need this for internet if someone can please help me!
[00:27] <mediawork> however, as soon as my cpu starts doing anything heavy, it shoulds up to 70 and above...
[00:27] <julie> mediawork, it seems properly reported in this case...  40C is not high, 75 is
[00:27] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: Yes and what picture is up and to the right?
[00:27] <DasEi> !brain | Treaver
[00:27] <mediawork> and that is unlikely I think ... takes only , I measured 5-6 seconds to reach 60 deg.
[00:27] <Treaver> DasEi? what?
[00:27] <mg_> lol
[00:27] <julie> mediawork, you should check the ventilation
[00:28] <julie> make sure the heatsink is well seated
[00:28] <Treaver> DasEi so can you help me
[00:28] <DasEi> Treaver: this is #ubuntu, so no fedora here, there is #fedora and ##linux, you don't know bots ?
[00:28] <Treaver> What? I am completely new to this..
[00:29] <Kayne> DasEi?
[00:29] <soreau> DasEi: That was a bit strong, eh? ;)
[00:29] <DasEi> soreau: him leaving before I could pm ? might be ;)
[00:30] <Kayne> i sais i could oot to windows , but  i have all these errors  when i boot to unbutu
[00:30] <DasEi> Kayne: yess..
[00:30] <alket> How to configure bluefish to not create extra files like ~file
[00:31] <DasEi> Kayne: so do you get to the ubuntu desktop or does booting fail at some point ?
[00:31] <soreau> alket: It's probably in the settings somewhere
[00:31] <Kayne> okay so what did I do worng because the errors won't stop
[00:31] <Dwade09>  how do i burn a bootable iso image to a external hard drive and not lose the data that is on the external hard drive?
[00:31] <julie> Kayne, what error messages do you get
[00:31] <alket> soreau, maybe but I cannot find it
[00:31] <Kayne> I got to the Red Unbutu scrreen and then it went back to  the error messages
[00:31] <DasEi> Dwade09: you don't burn it, but simply place the iso file there
[00:32] <Kayne> There are too many to count
[00:32] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: when it was pal I had a 5 inch black bar on the bottom and 2 inches on the left that covered up areas of the desktop, now got rid of the big bars but the output is shifted to the right about an inch and I'm getting some bowing on the edges
[00:32] <Kayne> one of them said  "killit " repeatedly
[00:32] <Treaver> Ok I tried to join ##Linux, but it wouldn't let me ask a question?
[00:32] <DasEi> Kayne: so no desktop then, tried to boot recovery mode ?
[00:32] <DasEi> treaver : pm you ?
[00:32] <Dwade09> DasEi,  i have and i went to boot into usb but it would not boot into it ,, it just brought up the grub loader for linux.
[00:32] <Kayne> i don't know who to do it for unbutu
[00:32] <Corey> Treaver: Should work.
[00:32] <YoMero> ubuntu will not have gnome shell again by deffect?
[00:32] <alket> Does blufish has its own IRC
[00:32] <Corey> Treaver: Ooh, you have to identify to services.
[00:32] <Yami_Bas> hello back again :)
[00:33] <Yami_Bas> im just baffled ;c
[00:33] <julie> Dwade09, when you get the grub loader, do you try to press ENTER?
[00:33] <Treaver> How do I pm, and when I try to send a message in ##linux it says couldn't
[00:33] <mrdeb> YoMero: it will have gnome 3 soon
[00:33] <elementz> hi all. i am trying to display certain application windows a certain desktop on a dual head setup. i am using xrandr. here's my xrandr output http://pastebin.com/xK36Sa91
[00:33] <Yami_Bas> BluesKaj: you there?
[00:33] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: The bowing is most likely your output device and possibly the positioning too. Does it have options to adjust the screen?
[00:33] <Treaver> Corey how do I do that
[00:33] <DasEi> kayne: when grubs loads, press left shift, select recovery mode, brb
[00:33] <Corey> freenode recommends setting up your nick in this fashion: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup (Please make sure you check your email to complete registration) Treaver
[00:33] <BluesKaj> Yami_Bas, yes
[00:33] <[V13]Axel> How do I install Audacity on Ubuntu 9.04?
[00:33] <elementz> Corey: ??
[00:33] <DasEi> kayne: when grubs loads, press left shift, select recovery mode, brb!classic | YoMero
[00:33] <Dwade09> julie,  it just has to pick from ubuntu or ubuntu recovery or memory test
[00:34] <Corey> elementz: Yes?
[00:34] <DasEi> !classic | YoMero
[00:34] <julie> Dwade09, this is a ubuntu live cd, of course it should boot ubuntu
[00:34] <YoMero> thanks
[00:34] <Yami_Bas> can we talk over pm ^^?
[00:34] <Dwade09> julie,  nono, this is a windows iso,
[00:34] <elementz> Corey: ups sorry. your message was higlighted. i thought your message was meant for me
[00:34] <elementz> Corey: sry my bad
[00:34] <Kayne> i unplugged the drive iw as trying to get the data drom and restarted,  it went to the boot screen and is now on the maroon Ubuntu screen   I am  watching it  blink now
[00:34] <chuwy> hi i just got hte software my pc and i am able to load it but it wont work it starts booting up and then myscrean shuts off like its not reseving anyinfo
[00:35] <Kayne> i just want my data files back on the drive  that has the problems
[00:35] <Treaver> Corey
[00:35] <Yami_Bas> cause it's a pretty long story you would only follow right now XD
[00:35] <bencc> what can I use to rsync a directory to amazon s3?
[00:35] <Dwade09> julie,  not a ubuntu iso, it brings up the installed ubuntu grub menu and wont bring up the win 7 menu.
[00:35] <DasEi> Treaver: saw additional window in your messenger ?
[00:35] <Treaver> I tried to register it says this
 is not a valid email address.
[00:35] <julie> Dwade09, are you trying to boot windows or a disk you made with a ubuntu image?
[00:35] <DasEi> Kayne: looks like you got a kernel panic, try to boot safemode and use dpk to update
[00:36] <swordz> In general I like Ubuntu. Slightly sad I can't use the Unity interface (Multi-monitors, it just goes crazy). And slightly annoyed I can't use an RSA Securid for work. But I can cope with those.
[00:36] <swordz> What I can't cope with and is likely to drive me back to windows soon is the unreliable wireless connection I have.
[00:36] <Dwade09> julie,  i am trying to install windows, with a windows 7 iso i have no blank dvd's if i did i would just burn it to the dvd.
[00:36] <swordz> Any idea of what I need to help solve it?
[00:36] <JokesOnYou77> Kanye: If you can't get Ubuntu to boot and it's an old computer, sometimes Debian works
[00:37] <Kayne> I got that Wall of error codes again
[00:37] <julie> Dwade09, so if I understand correctly, you copied a windows iso to a usb drive and came here as it doesn't boot up?
[00:37] <Dwade09> yes julie
[00:37] <swordz> My main internet connection isn't the issue - my housemates are fine, it's the connection to my router.
[00:37] <Kayne> its a brand new computer i built it myslef  a month ago
[00:37] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: I got mixed up in your pronouns somewhere, does what have options to adjust the screen?
[00:38] <julie> Dwade09, that won't work right out of the box and is definitely not supported here
[00:38] <Dwade09> julie,  when i hit esc for my boot loader i picked usb but it just went to the already installed ubuntu grub menu to pick ubuntu or ubuntu recovery or memo test.
[00:38] <adnap> DasEi: should i check the backports for a newer version of my wireless driver (iwlagn)?  anything else?
[00:38] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: The output device
[00:38] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: tv or whatever it is
[00:38] <Dwade09> julie,  can you guide me to where i could get some help?
[00:38] <chuwy> anyone i need help please i dont understand why its not working
[00:39] <nocturnal_> I am needing to know how much ram and processer to give to VeritalBox so I can run windows (games ) in Ubuntu
[00:39] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: No :( or I can't find them. I even found the hidden service menus.  It's not a digital TV, it's rear projection
[00:39] <julie> Dwade09, ask your neighbor for a blank CD as the alternative will take you days or even weeks to achieve
[00:39] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: Is the output ok when using other inputs?
[00:40] <Dwade09> thanks julie , i will see if someone in my flats may have one.
[00:40] <julie> :)
[00:40] <DasEi> adnap: not newer, but older (ported back) and then blacklist the newer buggy natty one to not interference
[00:40] <DasEi> kayne: back here, so trying to get the usb work
[00:40] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: just watching cable it fills the screen.  It's got bad overscan though
[00:41] <Yami_Bas> BluesKaj: anyways DTS and DD works, but the other ports even optical stereo don't work on my soundcard. Everything comes via my bad soundcard and bad speakers..... However the DTS and DD comes through the right speakers....
[00:41] <Yami_Bas> wtf?
[00:41] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: you're probably right though, I'll bet it's the TV
[00:41] <Kayne> i restarted it again and went into tewst mode   i don't understand all this
[00:41] <Kayne> its a new computer
[00:41] <fruribe> Hi guys - I'm looking for a dell laptop with good ubuntu support. Is there a list somewhere of supported laptos?
[00:42] <adnap> DasEi: the description of the backports repo on ubuntu's website says it contains newer versions of software
[00:42] <DasEi> Kayne: that can be so, you said your win is still booting ?
[00:42] <JokesOnYou77> Kanye: understanding takes too long, you just need your data, right? :P
[00:42] <Treaver> how do I login to this irc
[00:43] <Flannel> Treaver: /msg nickserv help identify
[00:43] <DasEi> Treaver: can you : /join #freenode ? basic irc questions are handled there
[00:43] <Kayne> yes if i do nothing windows 7 boots fine
[00:44] <Kayne> i am only trying to use unbutu  so i can recover data from a drive windows can't or won't read.
[00:44] <Treaver> Syntax: IDENTIFY <Treaver> <526987>
[00:44] <Treaver> didn't work
[00:44] <szal> lol
[00:44] <chuwy> so to anyone that can help i just got the starter kit and i went to install and when i do it gives me a black screan i was able to get around that by pressing f6 and choose no somthing but after installit reboots and then i take the disc out like it says to do and then it stares up but it does not put anything to my screan it stops how do i get my video card to work with it
[00:44] <Treaver> IDENTIFY <Treaver> <526987>
[00:44] <Treaver> yeah I need help here!
[00:44] <[lan3y]> Hi i have a question about a feature on the brainstorm, its inactive, where should i ask about it?
[00:44] <Flannel> Treaver: Without the brackets, and send it to nickserv.
[00:44] <Kayne> the memtest is running now actually
[00:44] <DasEi> Kayne: there is a win app called unetbootin, verify the md5sum of your iso, else re-down it as a torrent, format usb to fat 32 and try again, use a lucid-iso if the unity was bad
[00:45] <DasEi> !register > Treaver
[00:45] <Treaver> Syntax: IDENTIFY Treaver 5268987
[00:45] <Treaver> IDENTIFY Treaver 526987
[00:46] <Flannel> Treaver: again, not to this channel, to nickserv.
[00:46] <Treaver> Syntax: IDENTIFY Treaver 526987
[00:46] <DasEi> Treaver: again, #freenode and all irc-server commands start with an "/"
[00:46] <Kayne> so i should stop with what i am doing and  get this program and find a unbutu torrent ?
[00:46] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: Thanks again for the tip.  Do you know how I can generate an xorg.conf file so I can insert that line?
[00:47] <chuwy> anyone at all
[00:48] <DasEi> Kayne: yes as there seems something wrong and fiddling at this stage might take longer
[00:48] <DasEi> chuwy: your issue ?
[00:49] <html-inprogress> hi
[00:49] <html-inprogress> julie?
[00:49] <lolmatic> hey
[00:50] <html-inprogress> julie,  are u there?
[00:50] <lolmatic> are there any tools to change webcam output on the fly?
[00:50] <html-inprogress> hi
[00:50] <smith2011> k
[00:50] <chuwy> dasei: yes ty i just got the starter kit today and i had issues trying to install it i was able to get around them by pressing f6 in the bigining of the proscess and after i installed it. it restarted and told me to take the disc out and then it tryed to boot up i think it did but when it starts it just gives me a black screan like its not sending data to my screan
[00:50] <DasEi> Kayne: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[00:51] <Yami_Bas> well im going to get some sleep goodnight :)
[00:51] <Kayne> okay i am torrenting
[00:51] <html-inprogress> is this the ubuntu channel?
[00:52] <[lan3y]> yeah
[00:52] <smith2011> y
[00:52] <Kayne> should i reformat my toget rid of the previous unbutu?
[00:52] <adnap> a debian webpage says that the iwlagn driver is included in the mainline linux kernel, so would i have to upgrade my kernel to try any new driver that may exist?
[00:52] <szal> html-inprogress: well, what's its name? ;)
[00:52] <DasEi> Kayne: http://tinyurl.com/5sv9yf5
[00:52] <Ganymede> Can someone with Google Chrome stable paste the line from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome-stable.list or something like that? Should include dl.google.com and should be a single line. I accidentally rm'ed mine. Thanks.
[00:53] <DasEi> chuwy: starter kit you mean the cd and first booot leaves you with a blank screen, so..
[00:54] <chuwy> DasEi: yes it boots andi get some music of it starting up but no screen
[00:54] <DasEi> chuwy: reboot and was bios is finished, grub starts to load, press left shift few times until you get in the boot menue, there..
[00:54] <GeekyAdam> hi all, is there a way to see what packages will be installed when installing a new program before installing it? i.e. could i see all the packages necessary for ktorrent that would be installed if i installed ktorrent?
[00:54] <DasEi> chuwy: reboot and when* bios is finished, grub starts to load, press left shift few times until you get in the boot menue, there..
[00:55] <chuwy> DasEi: ok ill shall try it ty ill be right back
[00:55] <rationalOgre> adnap: That is my understanding of it.
[00:55] <DasEi> chuwy: use dpkg-option and failsafe x, alternative is press alt-ctrlF1 once the screen is up and run :
[00:55] <DasEi> chuwy: well, try it
[00:56] <lolmatic> are there any tools to change webcam output on the fly?
[00:56] <lolmatic> like effects?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> lolmatic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1407199
[01:02] <LsBlend> Hello, can anybody tell me how to tell ubuntu to fetch from the internet for sources instead of cdrom?
[01:03] <soreau> LsBlend: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list or use software-properties-gtk
[01:04] <adnap> how can i tell if a newer kernel version fixed the problem with the iwlagn driver?  also, does anyone know if there is a wrapper for the windows driver?  my card works fine on windows.
[01:04] <LsBlend> what exactly would I put in the sources.list - new to ubuntu here. Also software sources doesnt seem to be installed so I cant use that
[01:04] <chuwy> DasEi: im not shure if i did it right but nothing happened when i pressed the left butten a fuw times it did like a DD thing and contiued to boot up then the screan went black and the nose of boot up sounded
[01:05] <DasEi> chuwy: k, you are there now ? try pressing alt+ctrl+F1
[01:06] <DasEi> chuwy: does this offer a commandline ?
[01:06] <chuwy> DasEi: it did not
[01:06] <LsBlend> oh wait, nvm, that worked soreau, thanks
[01:07] <DasEi> chuwy: hmm, this is an fresh install on the entire harddisk ?
[01:07] <Kayne> still downloading
[01:08] <chuwy> DasEi: yes the pc used to be widows xp but it craped out lol and so my freind told me about this software so im doing the entire pc to it
[01:08] <DasEi> chuwy: and the working live cd is still around ? I can pm you and ssh to fix x then
[01:09] <unknown> Anyone has a suggestion for installing latest/most stable nvidia drivers for a 9800GT on 11.04 ?
[01:09] <szal> unknown: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[01:09] <DasEi> unknown: sudo jockey-gtk, follow suggestions
[01:09] <chuwy> DasEi:yea i got the mag with the starter disc today
[01:10] <unknown> szal, , I was under the impression those are pretty outdated.
[01:10] <szal> unknown: nah
[01:10] <szal> unknown: not the most recent stable any more (275 has been released in the meantime), but still good
[01:10] <DasEi>  chuwy: saw pm window in your messenger ?
[01:11] <unknown> thank you both.
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> unknown: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[01:12] <unknown> ActionParsnip, , yeah, dont think thats the latest tho
[01:13] <unknown> I think those were giving me issues last time i tried, if i am not mistaken
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> unknown: there is a PPA with the beta driver
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> unknown: 270.41.06
[01:13] <szal> ActionParsnip: as I said, 275 is out in the meantime
[01:14] <unknown> ok, whats the recommend method for either 275 or 270?
[01:14] <nasuta> Sysinfo for 'old-hal': Linux <IP_ADDRESS>-ck2.04-nasutix running KDE Development Platform 4.6.3 (4.6.3), CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 CPU          4400  @ 2.00GHz at 1200 MHz (3989 bogomips), HD: 331/391GB, RAM: 1391/2011MB, 140 proc's, 2.17d up
[01:14] <unknown> recommended*
[01:14] <nasuta> i use 275 without probs
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> unknown: there is 270.41.19 on the nvidia site, the duifference will be negligable and the packages make life a lot easier
[01:14] <rcmaehl_mobile> Would I get better performance if I gave swap an entire hdd to itself?
[01:15] <DasEi> rcmaehl_mobile: rather more ram, depends on it's size mainly
[01:15] <hiexpo> rcmaehl_mobile, no
[01:16] <lalaha> hi everyone, i just installed a driver for a wacom bamboo, and now I hang up on boot up at "Checking battery state.....[OK]"  does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:16] <rcmaehl_mobile> b/c I don't want to waste this old 4GB pata
[01:16] <DasEi> rcmaehl_mobile: that makes only sense if you got som 256 ram and swap a lot, could use a fast usb or ssd, but ram will speed much more, rather turn off swap entirely
[01:17] <learningc> hi, anyone knows how to create a boot cd for a non bootable usb on natty?
[01:17] <soreau> learningc: why not just make the usb bootable?
[01:17] <DasEi> learningc: use k3b and burn iso to disc
[01:18] <nasuta> unetbootin?
[01:18] <learningc> because the bios does not support booting from usb, I have an old laptop on which I want to install linux from usb
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> learningc: do you have a floppy drive?
[01:18] <nasuta> usb-cdrom
[01:19] <learningc> no, no floppy, just a bootable cd-rom drive
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> learningc: gah! http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/
[01:19] <learningc> but I do have an external usb dvd drive which I want to use, but I can't since my usb is not bootable
[01:20] <nasuta> bios->boot section?
[01:20] <html_inprogress> did anyone hear of the recent chromebooks?,,, there os      " chrome os"      ?      and i wonder if thats a ubuntu flavor?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> learningc: I'd check the BIOS to verify what can and cannot be booted from
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> html_inprogress: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome_OS
[01:22] <DasEi> html_inprogress: #ubuntu-offtopic ?:)
[01:22] <nasuta> no one wants this shitty unity
[01:22] <learningc> ActionParsnip: basically I can boot from the internal cd drive, hdd, lan, compact flash, that's all
[01:22] <rypervenche> nasuta: fact
[01:22] <html_inprogress> DasEi,  met you there
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> learningc: cool, use compact flash instead of USB tick
[01:26] <learningc> ActionParsnip: I don't have a compact flash, and I think it would be more convenient if I can get something like a boot cd to transfer the booting to the usb port, just like the boot floppy you refered earlier from the link
[01:26] <Dannyboy_> ActionParsnip: webcamstudio is massive ownage!!!
[01:26] <Dannyboy_> better than any windows program!
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Dannyboy_: nice
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Dannyboy_: I think webcams are creepy
[01:35] <Dannyboy_> ActionParsnip: i creep out people at chatroulette for fun
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> learningc: why bother, you have a medium your system can boot so you may as well use it :)
[01:36] <LucidLJ> hi
[01:36] <LucidLJ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obIx1e4144w
[01:36] <bazhang> LucidLJ, wrong channel
[01:37] <magneto> I'm new to ubuntu and trying to install a Zonet wireless usb adaptor. I need to install the drivers that I believe are in an archive folder that came on the installation disk. The folder name is LInux STA_V<IP_ADDRESS>. How do I install this 3rd party driver for ubuntu?
[01:39] <LucidLJ> whats wrong channel
[01:39] <[an]droidman> magneto: inside the folder, tell me the file extension
[01:39] <zhjawe> please help me,Why i  login into tty1 instead of desktop after upgrade to 10.10?
[01:40] <bazhang> LucidLJ, for posting youtube
[01:40] <nasuta> !ctell LucidLJ ot
[01:40] <szal> LucidLJ: this channel is not for posting random videos
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> zhjawe: run:  startx   does it run ok?
[01:40] <LucidLJ> ok
[01:41] <magneto> 2 folders. one with dot and the other is DPO_RT3070_LinuxSTA_v<IP_ADDRESS>_20100412
[01:41] <learningc> ActionParsnip: the problem is that many operating systems are bigger that 700 mb in size so I need to either hold them on a pendrive or a dvd, not a cd
[01:42] <nasuta> learningc: netinstall?
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> learningc: the Ubuntu ISO is 700Mb, thats all that matters in this channel
[01:43] <zhjawe> ActionParsnip:the desktop is normal when i work in 2.6.35-23.the error is happen when i upgrade to 2.6.35-29
[01:43] <voss749> zhjawe, I thought ubuntu was at 2.6.38
[01:43] <learningc> nasuta: netinstall as pxe something?
[01:43] <[an]droidman> magneto: http://bobeltomate.blogspot.com/2011/03/zonet-zew2590-in-ubuntu-1010.html its for 10.10 but should work for natty
[01:44] <magneto> Inside th DPO_RT3070_Linux... is chips, common, include, os, sta tools, ._chips, ._common, ._include, ._Makefile and much more
[01:44] <nasuta> sorry, learningc, netinstall is in debian, wrong channel
[01:44] <zhjawe> voss749:it is pinguy os.
[01:45] <bazhang> zhjawe, which is not supported here
[01:45] <learningc> nasuta: I see, I'll check that, thanks for the lead
[01:45] <bazhang> !alis | zhjawe search for their channel
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> zhjawe: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[01:46] <unknown> Ok, up on 275 beta driver.
[01:46] <magneto> thanks droidmand
[01:47] <unknown> box was rebooting randomly. hopefully this will fixi t.
[01:47] <magneto> Give it a try
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> zhjawe: I suggest you join the channel for pingy OS and ask there, this is ubuntu support only
[01:48] <unknown> Is there a shortcut to show all windows at once on 11.04 unity? sorta like osx expose?
[01:48] <szal> zhjawe: #pinguyos
[01:48] <unknown> I know its on gnome 3
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> unknown: its in ccsm
[01:49] <eamon> Hello, I would like to communicate in #ubuntu over SILC, for privacy reasons. Does #ubuntu have a SILC server?
[01:49] <zhjawe> ActionParsnip:Pinguy OS is extend version based Ubuntu .
[01:49] <unknown> hmm.. ccsm
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> zhjawe: yes but its NOT Ubuntu, its pinguay OS
[01:49] <i3luefire> what is wrong with the wired not connecting when you plug it in with the comp on already
[01:49] <bazhang> eamon, what is that
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> zhjawe: none of the million Ubuntu spinoffs you can possibly name are supported here, ONLY Ubuntu
[01:50] <eamon> Secure Internet Live Conferencing
[01:50] <unknown> ActionParsnip, , I am going to five gnome 3 a shot on 11.04
[01:50] <bazhang> eamon, no
[01:50] <unknown> thanks.
[01:50] <eamon> like IRC except encrypted to the max
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> unknown: your call, its not stable
[01:50] <unknown> How is unity any better? lol
[01:50] <brown_fern> unknown: You don't mean "alt + tab" do you, or do you mean the content of all workspaces? That one I don't know.
[01:50] <trakinas> i3luefire: perhaps cable is wrecked?
[01:51] <nasuta> and ubuntu is based in debian, youz try it on #debian (oftc.net) ^^
[01:51] <trakinas> brown_fern: meta+tab
[01:51] <i3luefire> trakinas,  not the cable. it works fine with arch linux windows
[01:51] <ubuntu__> what are the best fsck flags to fix an ext4 hard drive?
[01:52] <Flannel> eamon: Try TOR or connecting over SSL.
[01:52] <unknown> brontos, No, here. You would know what i mean if you saw it. Essentially OSX expose
[01:52] <unknown> here = here
[01:52] <Flannel> eamon: Those are your only options for freenode at this time
[01:52] <i3luefire> trakinas, and it works on ubuntu if you have it plugged in on bootup
[01:52] <unknown> what is wrong with my typing today
[01:52] <unknown> here = hehe
[01:52] <i3luefire> just not if you plug it in after
[01:52] <trakinas> i3luefire: hmm... I see. Strange.
[01:53] <trakinas> i3luefire: when that happens, try ifconfig eth0 and see the output.
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> unknown: expose is a plugin in compiz
[01:53] <trakinas> then, if there is no output for the network and only for the loopback, try ifconfig eth0 up and see if it connects.
[01:54] <trakinas> unknown: active your effects and then meta W or A
[01:54] <eamon> thx Flannel. Hopefully freenode will take privacy more seriously in future
[01:54] <trakinas> where W = your current desktop and A all desktop
[01:54] <unknown> Its quite useful
[01:54] <unknown> Ill have to try that next after gnome 3
[01:55] <trakinas> unknown: activate effects and press meta+w
[01:55] <i3luefire> trakinas, ok.
[01:55] <trakinas> see if that is what you want.
[01:55] <unknown> I just get so lost on unity
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> unknown: how so, dash makes life easy
[01:58] <portege2> hi i suceeded in rotating my display  of my tablet pc but my mouse and also my stylus didn't fit
[01:58] <itissid> Hey i am running a samba server from my 10.10 box on a local home n/w. But my windows machine cant see it when i do a \\<IP_ADDRESS>  So how do i trouble shoot?
[01:58] <portege2> someone an idea what to do
[01:59] <Kayne> dasei are you still here ?
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> itissid: can you ping the IP?
[01:59] <DasEi> Kayne: sure
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> itissid: if you run:  smbtree on the samba server, do you see the shares listed?
[02:00] <unknown> brb, thank you all
[02:01] <itissid> ActionParsnip, smbtree does not show anythong
[02:02] <Kayne> okay  unbutu is working on my desktop, but I tried to access the broken drive, and i can't find it , i even took it out and made it a usb driver again, but nothing  how do i find the drive.
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> itissid: then the shares are not right
[02:03] <crankharder> how do I change/update the MOTD?
[02:03] <crankharder> e.g., say I want the results of some command to be added to it
[02:03] <daviddoria> I think i have some bad sectors - see the error at the top here: http://pastebin.com/nWPah2Yt - it says that over and over while booting and takes 20 minutes to boot and then is horribly sluggish. - I tried to run fsck.ext4 -fyv /dev/sda1 but it seemed to "work" but didn't fix the problem. Any other flags to fsck to try?
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> crankharder: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ssh-welcome-banner-on-ubuntu/
[02:06] <crankharder> ActionParsnip: I doubt that - my /etc/motd is a text file, there are no commands in there
[02:06] <crankharder> for example, it contains "12 packages can be updated." instead of whatever command generated that line
[02:06] <crankharder> also, I can google quite well myself
[02:09] <Kayne> hello?
[02:09] <aeon-ltd> Kayne: yes?
[02:10] <Kayne> I was waiting for  dasei to tell me what to do next.
[02:10] <Kayne> ehhh I finally got Unbutu working on my desktop, buti can't see the drive i couldnt see in windows
[02:10] <Kayne> is ther a way to find it in unbutu ?
[02:11] <DasEi> Kayne: ah, sorry, you pust nick in waht you say or I wan't realize when in another tab, yes :
[02:11] <rewt> Kayne, see if `fdisk -l` lists it, and if so, you can mount it
[02:11] <Flannel> Kayne: try sudo fdisk -l (thats a lowercase L)
[02:11] <DasEi> Kayne: sudo fdisk -l , which partiton is the win one ?
[02:12] <The_Pugilist> anyone have any experience setting up a teamspeak 3 server on ubuntu?
[02:12] <Kayne> wait this is a secondary drive not the main one
[02:12] <adnap> i am back here to hopefully get assistance with my wireless card
[02:12] <adnap> DasEi: are you still there?
[02:12] <DasEi> adnap: yes
[02:12] <Kayne> and  i took it out of the  tower, and made it a usb drive instead but  i am still not seeing it
[02:13] <adnap> DasEi: can you explain to me how to install the older versions of the software that might possibly fix my wireless?
[02:13] <adnap> DasEi: i have added the backports repos to my sources file
[02:13] <Kayne> that and i don't know how to fdisk
[02:14] <adnap> DasEi: my wireless driver is actually included in the linux kernel
[02:14] <DasEi> Kayne: terminal open ?
[02:14] <adnap> DasEi: so, i think i actually need to roll back the kernel.  is that correct?
[02:15] <DasEi> adnap: get a linux-live usb with lucid, find correct modul on working wifi, blacklist the others, prbly copy the lucid module to usb
[02:15] <DasEi> adnap: you just need the correct driver btw the wrong one blacklisted
[02:15] <Kayne> how would i find that out ?
[02:16] <DasEi> !terminal
[02:16] <adnap> DasEi: what does blacklisting do?  does it prevent me from getting future updates to the driver?
[02:16] <DasEi> adnap: no, that prevents a faulty driver to be used by upstart btw the os
[02:17] <adnap> DasEi: how do i blacklist something?
[02:17] <adnap> DasEi: what am i blacklisting exactly?  a specific kernel module?
[02:18] <DasEi> adnap: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf , yes the faulty current natty module (lsmod lists them)
[02:19] <trakinas> gtg. bye all
[02:19] <DasEi> Kayne: terminal open ?
[02:20] <itissid> ActionParsnip, Ok so i confiured the /etc/samba/samba.conf here it is http://piratepad.net/C54dBATvS6
[02:20] <adnap> DasEi: and how can i blacklist a specific version of the driver?  the driver goes by "iwlagn" on both ubuntu versions
[02:21] <itissid> Then i added a user using sudo smbpasswd -a <USER>
[02:22] <nasuta> mooo
[02:22] <DasEi> adnap: hm, they should be different, which chip was that again ?
[02:22] <DasEi> adnap: sudo lshw -C network
[02:23] <Kayne> how do i know if the terminal is open ? i don't know what to look for ?
[02:24] <adnap> DasEi: it's an intel ultimate-n 5300 wifi card
[02:25] <denix_> hola
[02:25] <klown> Kayne, press control alt t..thats a terminal window
[02:25] <bazhang> !es | denix_
[02:25] <denix_> hello
[02:25] <denix_> hello friends
[02:26] <Kayne> okay, now what?
[02:27] <klown> Kayne, I'm not sure what you were trying to do.  You just stated you didn't know what it looked like..Now you know :)
[02:27] <boozie> can I ask a super noob question?
[02:27] <klown> ask away.
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> itissid: there are no shares defined there
[02:28] <luis_> hola
[02:28] <boozie> can I run windows programs under ubuntu without problems?
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> boozie: some yes, others no
[02:28] <klown> Depends on the programs boozie
[02:28] <luis_> hi
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> !appdb
[02:28] <boozie> like games and apps
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> boozie: depends on the app, the version of the app and the version of wine
[02:29] <boozie> thanks ActionParsnip!
[02:29] <klown> your so quick on the responses ActionParsnip :D
[02:29] <boozie> and you too klown
[02:29] <Kayne> okay now how do i find this god forsaken drive?
[02:29] <bazhang> fdisk -l Kayne
[02:29] <itissid> ActionParsnip, Ok I just put in a new share and this is what sudo testparam returns http://piratepad.net/C54dBATvS6
[02:29] <tortib> I have a java app that uses X and requires access to the display :0 that is running on the machine, for some reason i have to add xhost +local:all as root before my user can run this java app as my regular user and not root, how am I able to set xhost +local:all permantely?
[02:29] <DasEi> Kayne: by following hints; terminal open ?
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> itissid: http://pastie.org/2050261
[02:30] <cwheeler> Hi, how do I update my kernel source?
[02:30] <Kayne> yes  terminal is now open
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> itissid: see the last 20 lines or so, those are my shares
[02:30] <bazhang> Kayne, then type in that command
[02:30] <DasEi> Kayne: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[02:30] <DasEi> Kayne: give resulting url here
[02:31] <boozie> can I install ubuntu over windows without losing my data?
[02:31] <Kayne> okay  going to the other computer
[02:31] <boozie> noob question I know
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> itissid: if you restart the smbd service, do you see the shares in smbtree
[02:31] <itissid> ActionParsnip, Sadly no..
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> boozie: no, the partitions will be formatted
[02:31] <luis_> alguien habla español?
[02:31] <DasEi> boozie: not over, but besides, if hd has enugh space and you defragged the win before
[02:31] <smw> !es | lu
[02:31] <bazhang> boozie, no, unless you want to install inside of windows using wubi
[02:31] <smw> !es | luis_
[02:31] <itissid> ActionParsnip, so you can see that share in the pirate pad... It looks ok ..
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> itissid: seems ok, could copy mine then modify as you require
[02:32] <DasEi> !dualboot | boozie
[02:32] <bazhang> !wubi | boozie
[02:32] <voss749> boozie if you have windows and just want to try out ubuntu you can always use virtualbox
[02:32] <tortib> can someone help me with X on ubuntu?  I have a java app that requires access to display :0 I have already exported DISPLAY=:0 and it isn't working i have to run xhost +local:all in order to have the java app i'm using access the display as my normal user, I want to set the xhost +local:all each time i boot up but it requires root to do so...
[02:32] <itissid> ActionParsnip, Okay Trying
[02:32] <boozie> though so...thank you again for all the help bazhang and ActionParsnip et al
[02:33] <sarthor> HI, i am not able to run my dhcp, my configuration is here, please guide me if some friend afford to give a little time,  http://pastebin.com/geuNCfLf using ubuntu server 11.04
[02:33] <tortib> I have a java app that uses X and requires access to the display :0 that is running on the machine, for some reason i have to add xhost +local:all as root before my user can run this java app as my regular user and not root, how am I able to set xhost +local:all permantely?
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> itissid: keep your original file copied out so you can roll back
[02:34] <Kayne> it says  E: " couldn't find package Pastebinit"
[02:34] <klown> lowercase p, Kayne
[02:34] <mac9416> Hey, can one create a bootable USB from within a live CD? Or must one have the ISO handy?
[02:34] <boozie> bazhang can I PM?
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> Kayne: linux is VERY case sensitive
[02:34] <bazhang> boozie, ask here please
[02:35] <boozie> well it is not really a question...
[02:35] <tortib> I have a java app that uses X and requires access to the display :0 that is running on the machine, for some reason i have to add xhost +local:all as root before my user can run this java app as my regular user and not root, how am I able to set xhost +local:all permantely?
[02:35] <Kayne> I typed it all in lowercase complete with spaces
[02:35] <boozie> nm
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> !info pastebinit
[02:36] <DasEi> Kayne: sudo fdisk -l, that will be partner repos not enabled
[02:36] <bazhang> boozie, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat if you wish
[02:36] <boozie> bazhang I was going to give you something....
[02:36] <DasEi> Kayne:can you tell which parti is your windows one ?
[02:37] <Kayne>  i am not looking for the windows partition . I am looking for the second disk. i have no problems witht he disk where windows is stored
[02:38] <timboy> I installed ubuntu on my laptop and the sound is super quiet. alsamixer shows it's up all of the way, I don't know what else to check. anyone seen something like this before?
[02:38] <DasEi> Kayne: anyway, whe need the identifier of that parti, and
[02:38] <DasEi> !who
[02:39] <lunzie> help, i did an update; on reboot system cant see critical /var/lib folders/files, so ureadahead terminates and i cant get gdm started or dpkg/network access ... i'm running off a live cd
[02:39] <carlosqueso> timboy: did you make sure that the PCM slider was all the way up? I had the same problem.
[02:40] <timboy> carlosqueso, unfortunately yes it is...
[02:40] <carlosqueso> timboy: oh well..worth a try
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> timboy: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[02:40] <itissid> ActionParsnip, Ok so I rebooted my comp
[02:40] <itissid> and copied the share but smbtree is still nada
[02:41] <Darkenvy> how can I add a user to the sudoers file?
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: just add them to the admin group
[02:41] <DasEi> Kayne: so which /dev/sXX is the desired partiton ?
[02:41] <Darkenvy> I am asking how, a bit more in depth
[02:41] <nasuta> Darkenvy: nano /etc/sudoers
[02:41] <Darkenvy> thanks
[02:41] <Darkenvy> btw vim ftw
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: sudo usermod -a -G admin username
[02:41] <Kayne> I don't know how to tell
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: the user you add can now use sudo and gksudo
[02:42] <Flannel> ActionParsnip, Darkenvy: `adduser user group` is easier and safer
[02:42] <Darkenvy> this did not work
[02:42] <timboy> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/GkRyJ9uP
[02:42] <Darkenvy> the usermod command
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: isn't that for new users only, or does it realize the user already exists?
[02:43] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: "adduser" can be used to add users or add users to groups, it recognizes two forms of syntax
[02:44] <Darkenvy> How do I add a user to the sudoer file while in vim?
[02:44] <Darkenvy> as in where do I put the name?
[02:44] <itissid> ActionParsnip, What about firewalls
[02:44] <DasEi> Kayne: (nick!) sudo fdisk -l, have a look at that output
[02:44] <lunzie> can anyone help with ureadahead boot failures? i can only get as far as the command line with no networking ... both gdm and networking (includ. dpkg/apt) fails
[02:44] <Flannel> Darkenvy: What are you hoping to accomplish by adding the user to sudoers?
[02:45] <Darkenvy> so I can execute my cronjob script not as root
[02:45] <Darkenvy> does it really matter?
[02:45] <DasEi> Kayne: you said it's the second hd, that would be sdb
[02:45] <Kayne> okay hold on a sec
[02:45] <Darkenvy> one thing I hate is people trying to find alternatives when I only ask questions when I can only have it one way ><
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: sweet :)
[02:45] <Flannel> Darkenvy: Yeah, it does, because if you're just trying to give a user the ability to sudo, you don't modify sudoers.
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> itissid: the local machine should still see its own shares
[02:45] <Darkenvy> somone above told me to do so ^
[02:45] <utusan> tortib, have you tried googling it
[02:45] <mmcji> how do i resize a kvm raw image.  I need to reduce the size from 120G to 60G.  Everything I find talks about increasing the size.
[02:46] <itissid> ActionParsnip, YEah something is fucked..
[02:46] <Darkenvy> sudo usermod -a -G admin username did not work btw
[02:46] <Flannel> Darkenvy: They were mistaken, you instead want to add the user that you want to allow to sudo to the admin group.
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> timboy: try adding: options snd-hda-intel model=generic     to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[02:46] <Flannel> Darkenvy: sudo adduser username admin (where "username" is the user you want to give the ability to sudo to)
[02:46] <Darkenvy> my user is named "admin"
[02:46] <Flannel> er...
[02:46] <Flannel> hmm, I wonder how that works.
[02:47] <Flannel> Darkenvy: alright, well, try sudo adduser admin admin
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> timboy: also try: options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo    if that doesn't help, delete the line you first tried with
[02:47] <Kayne> there is a table that says  Usage, gives some f disks commands, and then there is an options list
[02:47] <Darkenvy> "admin is already a member of admin"
[02:47] <Darkenvy> but I cannot sudo
[02:47] <timboy> ok thx ActionParsnip. will i need to restart after to test?
[02:47] <Flannel> Darkenvy: Are you currently logged in as admin?
[02:47] <dr_willis> You need to Log out/back in after change4ing a users group domnt you?
[02:47] <Kayne> i don't see anything  about sdb
[02:47] <Darkenvy> no as root
[02:48] <adnap> what config file specifies the modules loaded by the kernel at startup?  it doesn't seem to be /etc/rc.conf, and while i've found a file /etc/init/rc.conf, it doesn't seem to have a modules array.
[02:48] <Darkenvy> I cant sudo myself into being able to use sudo by using sudo -_-
[02:48] <Flannel> Darkenvy: can you please pastebin the output of 'id admin'?
[02:48] <dr_willis> Darkenvy,  how did you login as root?
[02:48] <Darkenvy> su
[02:48] <Darkenvy> uid=1000(admin) gid=1000(admin) groups=1000(admin)
[02:48] <Flannel> Darkenvy: Are you using Ubuntu?
[02:49] <Darkenvy> debian
[02:49] <Darkenvy> wait
[02:49] <Darkenvy> lol
[02:49] <Flannel> Darkenvy: You want #debian then.
[02:49] <Darkenvy> you probably wont help me now
[02:49] <bazhang> #debian Darkenvy
[02:49] <Darkenvy> damnit
[02:49] <smw> adnap, /etc/modules and /etc/modprobe.d
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: yep, debian isn't supported here
[02:49] <Darkenvy> I know you know the answer
[02:49] <dr_willis> Darkenvy,  log out - and try loging in as the user you qwant with the rights..
[02:49] <Darkenvy> I NORMALLY run ubuntu exclusivly
[02:49] <AaeRohn> *pokes around* can anyone help me with making a wireless adapter work?
[02:49] <Flannel> Darkenvy: This is set up entirely different than Ubuntu, you don't already have an admin group, and your sudoers file is likely completely different as well.
[02:50] <adnap> smw: can you explain the function that each serves?
[02:50] <smw> adnap, the function each what serves?
[02:50] <nasuta> Darkenvy: debian is better, go on oftc.net #debian
[02:50] <Flannel> Darkenvy: So really, you wouldn't be able to use the help that we would give you anyway.  Go ask in #debian, they can help you much more effectively than we can in this matter.
[02:50] <boozie> thanks again for all the help from everyone! Rock on...
[02:51] <adnap> smw: why did you cite both a file (/etc/modules) and a directory (/etc/modprobe.d)?
[02:51] <nasuta> Darkenvy: #debian on oftc.net is the main chan, on freenode is not the real
[02:51] <smw> adnap, the file contains modules, the directory contains a bunch of files with the same use as the /etc/modules file
[02:52] <Kayne> does any of that help?
[02:52] <utusan> Darkenvy, during install debian will ask you if you want sudo enabled if that's what you want
[02:52] <smw> adnap, each file in /etc/modprobe.d is treated like /etc/modules
[02:52] <adnap> smw: hm.  i looked at the files in /etc/modules and it seems like they are more complicated.  /etc/modules says to simply list names of modules on each line that should be loaded at startup
[02:53] <jimw> stupidly, I upgraded to 11.04 on my Dell mini 1010, but on reboot, I get a purple screen, no cursor, no keyboard response (as best I can tell).  I can ping the box, so something's running.
[02:53] <smw> adnap, and what do the fies in /etc/modprobe.d have?
[02:53] <smw> adnap, ah, they also have kernel options
[02:53] <adnap> smw: hm.  i looked at the files in /etc/modules and it seems like they are more complicated.  /etc/modules says to simply list names of modules on each line that should be loaded at startup'
[02:53] <jimw> Is there some way to get a terminal on this thing?  Or am I locked in GUI hell?
[02:53] <dr_willis> jimw,  try making a new user - see if the system works for them. If so  then its a user setting thats to blame for the problem user.  (use the console and adduser command)
[02:54] <adnap> whoos
[02:54] <adnap> whoops
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> jimw: log in to gnome classic instead
[02:54] <adnap> many of them have things starting with
[02:54] <adnap> "option"
[02:54] <dr_willis> jimw,  theres the 'text' kernel optioon you can give at the grub menu.
[02:54] <dividebyz0> try pressing "ctrl-alt-f2" or something like that to drop into a true shell]
[02:54] <jimw> dr_willis: I never see a grub prompt.
[02:54] <adnap> smw: yep
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> jimw: CTRL+ALT+T may lauch a terminal
[02:54] <dr_willis> jimw,   his the shift key at the proper time and you will.
[02:54]  * dr_willis hates how they auto-hide grub
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: +1
[02:55] <dividebyz0> ;)
[02:55] <smw> adnap, do some googling to learn how options work ;-). You can put a module on each line in a file in modprobe.d
[02:55] <jimw> dr_willis: Will try that.  Ctl Alt T didn't work for me.
[02:55] <dividebyz0> jim, try ctrl-alt-f2
[02:55] <jimw> Thanks guys.  Back in a bit (if this doesn't work!)
[02:55] <dividebyz0> if that doesnt work, something is holding it up
[02:55] <smw> adnap, I believe that both are treated equally. If not, I know that a file moved from /etc/modules to /etc/modeprobe.d/x will have the same effect
[02:56] <Lenin_Cat> My vidoes keep lagging like hell
[02:56] <AgentGreen> sorry
[02:56] <jimw> dr_willis: I got a grub prompt!  I'm off and running!
[02:56] <adnap> smw: okay
 did you get all that?
[02:56] <adnap> smw: i guess the commands given in these files can be quite complicated, but don't have to be, as in /etc/modules
[02:57] <lunzie> hi, i'm having ureadahead problems with my /var/lib folder and cant start gdm and networking on reboot ... now using a live cd
[02:57] <smw> adnap, exactly
[02:59] <franco> hi, where I can find info of the ASLR implementation?
[02:59] <franco> I couldnt foudn annything good
[03:00] <DasEi> !chroot > chuwy
[03:00] <rcmaehl_tty> I've had to restart the x server 6 times in the last 5 minutes. How can I debug what is happening?
[03:00] <DasEi> !info fail2ban > chuwy
[03:00] <AaeRohn> hello, I need help getting my cisco wireless adapter compatable and working with my ubuntu
[03:01] <smw> AaeRohn, did you try the restricted drivers manager?
[03:01] <AaeRohn> smw: the what
[03:01] <AaeRohn> ?
[03:01] <smw> AaeRohn, system -> administration -> additional drivers
[03:01] <smw> AaeRohn, after you plug in the device of course.
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: run:  sudo lshw -C network    use the product line to find guides
[03:02] <[snake]> okay... I upgraded to 11.04 and now my windows go blank under certain circumstances (having too many windows open, going into fullscreen videos, etc..). and now I want to fix it. Can I fix this??
[03:02] <AaeRohn> smw, actionparsnip: take note, my ubuntu computer has no internet until I get it to work, I am on my brother's computer and mine atm *goes with smw's suggestin first*
[03:03] <smw> AaeRohn, if you have no internet, how do you plan to install the drivers? lol
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: lshw doesnt need a web connection to run
[03:03] <UcefKH> hi
[03:04] <AaeRohn> smw: I cant use the disc that came with the adapter?
[03:04] <AaeRohn> smw, actionparsnip: it's not a card btw, it's a usb adapter
[03:04] <UcefKH> sure
[03:05] <smw> AaeRohn, no, that is not possible
[03:05] <UcefKH> sure
[03:05] <smw> AaeRohn, the disk was made for windows
[03:05] <UcefKH> no
[03:05] <UcefKH> man dir
[03:05] <UcefKH> man
[03:05] <smw> UcefKH, don't you dare say ndiswrapper lol
[03:05] <UcefKH> lol
[03:06] <AaeRohn> smw: so even if I were to go and get an actual wireless card, I would still need internet to get a driver so I can get on the internet?
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: doesn't matter, it'll still be seen. Also run: lsusb   and the 8 character hex ID will help you find guides
[03:06] <smw> AaeRohn, unless the card has a driver installed in linux. Many cards work out of the box.
[03:07] <jimmie_> Whats the best bittorrent client to use on ubuntu?
[03:07] <[V13]Axel> Quick question everyone. Which do you think is better, FGLRX, or the open source drivers?
[03:08] <smw> jimmie_, transmission comes with ubuntu and works.
[03:08] <UcefKH> 4me trassmission is good
[03:08] <c4pt> anyone know where i can get gusty for powerpc instead of ports.ubuntu.com because its unavailable there
[03:08] <c4pt> ?
[03:08] <UcefKH> have dowladed a lot of movie lom
[03:08] <[V13]Axel> c4pt: Why not just go to the Alternate version section?
[03:08] <DasEi> !maverick > chuwy
[03:08] <DasEi> !maverick > chuwy
[03:09] <smw> c4pt, why would you want gutsy?
[03:09] <DasEi> !lucid > chuwy
[03:09] <[V13]Axel> !maverick | chuwy
[03:09] <smw> jimmie_, I use rtorrent (a cli based torrent client) but transmission works.
[03:09] <c4pt> [V13]Axel, using deboostrap
[03:09] <lunzie> can anyone help with boot recovery? i'm stuck using a live cd atm
[03:10] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: What are you trying to do with boot recovery?
[03:10] <AaeRohn> actionparsnip: it's only seeing my lan, not the wireless adapter
[03:10] <cypha> i'm SSH'd into my ubuntu server, but somehow the password for the SSH session is different than the local one, even though it's apparently the same username
[03:10] <jimmie_> smw: Would you say theres any downside to Transmission over uTorrent?
[03:11] <c4pt> jimmie_, yeah transmission is better
[03:11] <[V13]Axel> cypha: Did you make sure to use the -l <username> flag before the IP address?
[03:11] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: i can only get as far as the command line since gdm fails with ureadahead and dbus errors from missing /var/lib folders/files
[03:11] <smw> jimmie_, I said rtorrent, not utorrent
[03:11] <cypha> i'm SSH'd into my ubuntu server, but somehow the password for the SSH session is different than the local one, even though it's apparently the same username. I can get into both, just not sure why there are two passwords (and I can only use the passwords interchangeably
[03:11] <jimmie_> Hmm
[03:11] <smw> jimmie_, anyways, I suggest transmission for everyone except me :-P
[03:11] <cypha> [V13]Axel, what's that do?
[03:11] <UcefKH> who can help me
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: does lsusb show an ID for it?
[03:11] <jimmie_> Oh
[03:12] <jimmie_> Whys that Smw? :p
[03:12] <aeon-ltd> UcefKH: ask don't ask to ask
[03:12] <UcefKH> am in 10.10
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> UcefKH: use one line please
[03:12] <[V13]Axel> cypha: If the server has a different username than you do on the local PC, then it'll try to login to a non-existant user.
[03:12] <UcefKH> & i have the boring
[03:12] <UcefKH> ok
[03:12] <AaeRohn> parsnip: nothing that says ID
[03:12] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: Hmm. Is this on the CD or the actual PC's file system.
[03:13] <enyawix> is there no precompiled freeradius package?
[03:13] <smw> jimmie_, because I like having an ncurses torrent client. Most would be fine with transmission.
[03:13] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: it's on the harddisk .... where /var is on a separate partition
[03:13] <smw> jimmie_, not to mention rtorrent is easier to script :-P
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: there will be a hex ID, something like ae76:67ab    or somesuch
[03:14] <enyawix> exit
[03:14] <enyawix> quit
[03:14] <UcefKH> & i have the boring unlockLogin keyring every time coming up infnity (seahorse what r u doing) my password is correct & ihave change it due the advise of people on the net & no final result i still have it showing up
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> enyawix: try:  /quit
[03:14] <[V13]Axel> cypha: For example, if my PC has the username 'axel', and my server has the username 'servbuntu', I'll have to use 'ssh -l servbuntu <IP>'
[03:14] <enyawix> die
[03:14] <AaeRohn> either way, it's not my wireless adapter, the lsusb says realtek, the adapter is cisco and/or linksys
[03:15] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: now i'm stuck using a live cd where i am chrooted into my boot partition ... i can give some pastebin results from that
[03:15] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: Well, do you have any idea how it ended up liike that?
[03:15] <cypha> the username is "cypha@cypha-ubuntu" for both of them
[03:15] <cypha> [V13]Axel^^
[03:15] <UcefKH> & i have the boring unlockLogin keyring every time coming up infnity (seahorse what r u doing) my password is correct & ihave change it due the advise of people on the net & no final result i still have it showing up
[03:16] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: afaik, the last thing i did was update my software and my reboot failed since then ... i'm using natty 64-bit with a separated /var partition
[03:16] <rationalOgre> cypha: they both have the same host name?
[03:17] <cypha> yeah
[03:17] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: Perhaps it's not able to mount the partition of /var?
[03:17] <rationalOgre> ...
[03:17] <cypha> i can log into both
[03:17] <cypha> so is there any way I can check what's going on ?
[03:17] <[V13]Axel> cypha: That's your problem-- They can't have identical hostnames.
[03:17] <UcefKH> help me plzzz
[03:17] <cypha> you mean they can have
[03:18] <UcefKH>  i have the boring unlockLogin keyring every time coming up infnity (seahorse what r u doing) my password is correct & ihave change it due the advise of people on the net & no final result i still have it showing up
[03:18] <smw> [V13]Axel, why not?
[03:18] <rationalOgre> cypha: No, he means they should not have.
[03:18] <cypha> there's only 1 "cypha" directory in the home directory
[03:18] <rationalOgre> That's the user name
[03:18] <cypha> yeah
[03:18] <UcefKH> why not
[03:18] <UcefKH> no
[03:18] <rationalOgre> cypha: cypha-ubuntu is the host
[03:18] <[V13]Axel> smw: Because they use that in creating the session.
[03:18] <UcefKH> yes
[03:18] <cypha> so why are there two passwords? one for the local and one for ssh
[03:19] <UcefKH> realy
[03:19] <rationalOgre> cypha: do they both have the same password on each boxen?
[03:19] <[V13]Axel> cypha: There shouldn't be.
[03:19] <smw> UcefKH, I don't read any text written poorly on this chat. You may get more help if you write up your question properly.
[03:19] <cypha> rationalOgre, they have individual passwords, and not interchangeable
[03:20] <UcefKH> who r u to tell me that
[03:20] <UcefKH> smw
[03:20] <[V13]Axel> smw: That was rude.
[03:20] <cypha> ssh'ing from a 2nd computer requires the same password as on the other SSH
[03:20] <UcefKH> r u from usa ?
[03:20] <[V13]Axel> smw: If he wants to type using that, he can.
[03:21] <[V13]Axel> UcefKH: He was simply stating that it makes you look ignorant when you don't take the extra two seconds to type properly.
[03:21] <smw> [V13]Axel, yes he can.
[03:21] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: tru, /var folders cant mount on the filesystem but can using live cd ... except /var/lib turn up empty (which seems to be the culprit, from surfing)
[03:21] <cypha> oohh, here's a question, can the root password be changed even if you're ssh'ed in?
[03:21] <lunzie> everytime i boot i consistently get the following errors (that seem dependent on accessing /var/lib):
[03:21] <rationalOgre> cypha: so, let me see if I got this straight. You are on boxen-1 on the cypha account, you ssh to boxen-2 and log in to the cypha account on that, and has it's own password.
[03:21] <lunzie> init: ureadahead-other main process (...) terminated with status 4
[03:21] <lunzie> init: ureadahead main process (...) terminated with status
[03:21] <lunzie> init: dbus pre-start process (...) terminated with status 1
[03:21] <UcefKH> extra
[03:21] <UcefKH> !!
[03:21] <[V13]Axel> !pastebin | lunzie
[03:21] <UcefKH> thx gays bye
[03:21] <cypha> rationalOgre, can the root password be changed even if you're ssh'ed in?
[03:21] <smw> [V13]Axel, it does not just make you look ignorant. It becomes work to read :-P
[03:21] <cypha> so, thus changed remotely
[03:21] <UcefKH> so work
[03:22] <UcefKH> kids
[03:22] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: sorry, i'm kinda still a newbie *blush*
[03:22] <[V13]Axel> smw: I only see 'TXT' speak when it's ignorant people in my area.
[03:22] <UcefKH> how old r u
[03:22] <[V13]Axel> !ot | UcefKH
[03:22] <cypha> rationalOgre, because if it can't be, that would explain the remote password being different (since I tried changing the password once)
[03:22] <UcefKH> i use sh when i knock on th **s
[03:22] <UcefKH> ok bye
[03:22] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: i dont have any pastebin for my reboots, but i have a pastebin for chroot activities on live cd: http://pastebin.com/qYAwWwLh
[03:23] <afeijo> I have a new virtualbox ubuntu server, I started it now but it has no network? I checked the interfaces file, its ok, I ran sudo dhclient, but still it didnt come back. What else?
[03:23] <UcefKH> one simple question
[03:23] <rationalOgre> cypha: I believe it can be, but it might require configuring sshd in such a way as to make it possible.
[03:23] <UcefKH> how can i make my own irc channel
[03:24] <smw> UcefKH, join the new channel you want to create
[03:24] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: That's all fine-- I had to learn the rules once too. Anyway, I personally am not that in-depth skilled. However, my first thought is to perhaps copy the /var/lib from the CD's File System.
[03:24] <rationalOgre> cypha: however, if they are both ubuntu boxen you shouldn't be messing with root passwords anyway.
[03:24] <smw> UcefKH, then you can register with chanserv. type /msg chanserv help
[03:24] <cypha> rationalOgre, win7
[03:24] <smw> UcefKH, you can get support in #freenode
[03:24] <UcefKH> it is free ?
[03:25] <smw> UcefKH, of course
[03:25] <rationalOgre> cypha: What of it?
[03:25] <UcefKH> thx body
[03:25] <smw> UcefKH, although, you should make it ##whatever unless it is an official channel
[03:25] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: when i chroot to my boot partition sda1 in live cd, the /var partition sda10 automatically mounts as well (but with no /var/lib)
[03:25] <UcefKH> i'll make it #kungfupandachannel
[03:26] <smw> UcefKH, why not. Have fun
[03:26] <rationalOgre> lunzie: did you fsck sda10?
[03:26] <UcefKH> :)
[03:26] <aeon-ltd> UcefKH: though to avoid spammers and unwanted guests i'd sugget not posting its name
[03:28] <UcefKH> realy thx for advise
[03:28] <UcefKH> but can keep it for long time
[03:29] <lunzie> rationalOgre: yes, i tried fsck but didnt turn up any disk errors .... only the ureadahead and dbus fails i mentioned (that comes with every boot)
[03:30] <LekeFly> I have created a startup script that should run in terminal.. how can i see the output?
[03:30] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: how do i msg more than 1 person at at time on here?
[03:31] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: What do you mean, make a chat message that flags more than one user?
[03:31] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: In the main channel?
[03:31] <tiox> I had just used a piece of software to check if my computer is capable of running Compiz (I know it is, but I was wondering why some things were not working) and I had just discovered Ubuntu uses vesa video drivers in 11.04.
[03:31] <UcefKH> hey guys how can i recieve free stickers if they are free ones ?
[03:31] <smw> LekeFly, depends, do you want the output in a file?
[03:31] <rationalOgre> lunzie: pastebin relevant lines from /var/log/dmesg?
[03:31] <tiox> I want to use Xorg for video. Any way i can do that?
[03:32] <LekeFly> smw: no i just want to see it live : )
[03:32] <smw> LekeFly, or you could have the script started in a gnome-terminal
[03:32] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: yes, flag more than 1 user with a msg
[03:32] <smw> LekeFly, gnome-terminal -c "path/to/script"
[03:32] <rationalOgre> LekeFly: You could use something like tmux or screen
[03:32] <LekeFly> smw: this is what i have.. but its not doing anything :p gnome-terminal -e "bash --rcfile /home/user/miner1.sh"
[03:32] <smw> LekeFly, however, it will quit when the script quits
[03:33] <smw> LekeFly, maybe it is starting and then quiting?
[03:33] <afeijo> figured it out! no idea why but eth0 was renamed to eth1, lol
[03:34] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: I'm guessing just separate their names with commas.
[03:34] <tiox> Oh, for anybody curious about the software, it's called compiz-check. Paste the following:
[03:34] <tiox> wget http://blogage.de/files/70708/download -O compiz-check && chmod +x compiz.check && ./compiz-check
[03:34] <rationalOgre> LekeFly: Though they might be overkill for what you're trying to do.
[03:34] <lunzie> rationalOgre: no dmesg: "cannot access /var/log/dmesg: No such file or directory" using ls
[03:35] <lunzie> rationalOgre: i guess the access problem isnt limited to /var/lib
[03:35] <smw> LekeFly, gnome-terminal -x /home/user/miner1.sh
[03:35] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Looks like.
[03:35] <LekeFly> smw: Just did gnome-terminal -c "path/to/script"    with " < right? didnt work here :p
[03:36] <LekeFly> smw: i can run the script fine by doing ./blabla.sh
[03:36] <smw> LekeFly, ok
[03:36] <UcefKH> hey guys how can i recieve free stickers if they are free ones ?
[03:36] <smw> LekeFly, try with -x blabla.sh
[03:36] <rationalOgre> lunzie: so you can't cd to /var/log
[03:36] <rationalOgre> ?
[03:36] <lunzie> rationalOgre: at any rate, /var seems to be the bottleneck messing up ureadahead, dpkg and dbus
[03:37] <LekeFly> smw: Do i need the path if its in my home folder?
[03:37] <lunzie> rationalOgre: same result when ls /var/log ..... "cannot access /var/log/: No such file or directory"
[03:38] <smw> LekeFly, in theory no
[03:38] <smw> LekeFly, can't hurt
[03:38] <rationalOgre> lunzie: run "mount" with no arguments
[03:38] <cordiceps> 2.8 is enough for an install?
[03:38] <smw> LekeFly, gnome-terminal -e top works for me
[03:39] <UcefKH> no 4Go
[03:39] <john1400> ning
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> cordiceps: if you mean gigabytes then it will be ok but its a real squeeze
[03:39] <rationalOgre> lunzie: anything in there about /dev/sda10 ?
[03:39] <lunzie> rationalOgre: live cd chrooted mount with no args: http://pastebin.com/qSqJvY6Z
[03:40] <rationalOgre> lunzie: ok, so it says it's mounted. try cd /var
[03:40] <[V13]Axel> Why does the boot logo look horrible with FGRLX enabled? It becomes really low-resolution and bad-quality.
[03:41] <lunzie> rationalOgre: yes, it's there; it's there too when i try df -h and fdisk -l
[03:41] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Ok. sudo ls -a
[03:41] <rationalOgre> look for lost+found
[03:42] <tripelb> will this system rescue disk work as well as a liveCD or better? (no need at the moment) http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[03:42] <lunzie> rationalOgre: all ls -a turns up in /var is .  ..  cache  lock  run
[03:43] <rationalOgre> lunzie: wow, that's all kinds of messed up.
[03:44] <rationalOgre> lunzie: you may need to think about copying out your home directory and reinstalling...
[03:44] <stercor> When I use gedit I get several copies of this message: gedit: /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.2: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libgtksourceview-2.0.so.0)
[03:44] <LekeFly> smw: Thanks got it working now : )
[03:45] <lunzie> rationalOgre: yup, most folders are missing (and i'm in chroot!)
[03:45] <chuwy> DenEi: i think your name was are you here
[03:45] <a5h15h> how to view all the man pages that are listed in a section?
[03:45] <smw> LekeFly, awesome
[03:45] <lunzie> rationalOgre: i notice when i exit chroot i ls /var turns up some folders: backups  cache  crash  games  lib  local  lock  log  mail  opt  run  spool  tmp
[03:45] <lunzie> weird
[03:46] <rationalOgre> lunzie: is /dev/sda10 still mounted as var?
[03:47] <UcefKH> a realy ysefull command try it now kill -9 -1
[03:47] <rationalOgre> lunzie: you might be seeing the livecd's /var
[03:48] <cypha> how do I run something in the background?
[03:48] <tiox> a5h15h:  man <program>
[03:48] <cypha> putting & at the end of my "/paster serve settings.ini" doesn't work
[03:48] <rationalOgre> cypha: prepend &
[03:48] <tiox> It's a Terminal thing.
[03:48] <cypha> postpend?
[03:49] <lunzie> rationalOgre: probably it is ... i assumed the /var that automatically mounted when i mounted my boot partition belonged to the filesystem, not the cd
[03:49] <smw> cypha, append not postpend ;-)
[03:49] <[V13]Axel> What do you guys prefer, FGLRX, or the open source drivers?
[03:49] <cypha> smw, touche
[03:49] <lunzie> rationalOgre: anyway i can tell them apart?
[03:49] <UcefKH>  run something in the backgroun a realy usefull command try it now kill -9 -1
[03:49] <cypha> rationalOgre, that doesn't work though
[03:49] <rationalOgre> lunzie: check "mount" again and see where it's pulling var from.
[03:49] <cypha> it still runs the server and doesn't return me to a command prompt
[03:49] <Berk> hei
[03:49] <tiox> Some more info on my problem, this is an x64-capable computer. Far as I received a frankenrig.
[03:50] <stercor> But prepend...
[03:50] <rationalOgre> lunzie: if you don't see /dev/sda 10 on /var
[03:50] <rationalOgre> then it's from the cd
[03:50] <tiox> Pentium processor, intel onboard graphics, x64 proc.
[03:50] <rationalOgre> sorry, /dev/sda10
[03:50] <smw> stercor, prepend is technically not a word... but it should be
[03:50] <smw> [V13]Axel, whichever is easier. I use the default driver most of the time
[03:50] <accel> rxvt-unicode and I are about to breakup because it refuses to show unicode characer 22c3. What is a good terminal on ubuntu that is willing to display all unicode characters?
[03:50] <rationalOgre> smw: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prepend
[03:51] <stercor> smw: ah.
[03:51] <smw> rationalOgre, I stand corrected
[03:51] <NictraSavios> smw, Google says it is, good enough for me. Google define: prepend
[03:51] <smw> rationalOgre, is it in a hard dictionary?
[03:51] <rationalOgre> smw: No worries. :)
[03:52] <Jimmie> I could go get my Oxford English from downstairs if you really want confirmation
[03:52] <rationalOgre> smw: Websters.
[03:52] <smw> rationalOgre, sweet :-)
[03:52] <lunzie> rationalOgre: mount turned up /dev/sda10 on /var .... from the filessytem
[03:52] <cypha> okk, so how do I run this in the background?
[03:52] <[V13]Axel> smw: Well, the thing is, I like to go with the one that's better.
[03:52] <smw> cypha, command arg arg &
[03:52] <cypha> doesn't work
[03:53] <rationalOgre> lunzie: curiouser and curiouser.
[03:53] <smw> [V13]Axel, ok, define better. Normally I can't tell the difference
[03:53] <cypha> how do I see the processes that are running again?
[03:53] <smw> [V13]Axel, if the open source driver does not support 3d, then I use the proprietary driver
[03:53] <smw> cypha, jobs
[03:53] <rationalOgre> cypha: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html
[03:53] <[V13]Axel> smw: More hardware support, more features(Pixel shader, alpha,etc), and causes less problems.  I used the fdisk, it gave me a list, but i still cannot find the drive im looking for. is there any way to find the disk?
[03:54] <UcefKH> axel you entred it thx
[03:54] <smw> UcefKH, please stop trolling
[03:54] <UcefKH> ok
[03:55] <lunzie> rationalOgre: w/e it is, seems the system cant make use of /var to generate files and folders for ureadahead, dpkg and gdm ... what could be blocking /var from use?
[03:55] <UcefKH> ok
[03:56] <lunzie> rationalOgre: /var is in its own partition on my filesystem but this is the first issue i'm having with it from 10.04 to now (natty)
[03:57] <rationalOgre> KayneII: run "sudo lshw -C storage" and see if the drive shows up in there
[03:57] <rationalOgre> lunzie: That should never be a problem.
[03:58] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Pondering
[03:59] <lunzie> rationalOgre: that's what i'm thinking ... the only factors i can think of is the separate partition and the software upgrade, cuz i dunno what else could be blocking /var from use
[03:59] <sarthor> Hi, the old commands of starting / stoping squid, dhcpd, commands are not wroking in my Natty, even service dhcpd restart or service squid restart is also not working, how to do that in Natty?
[03:59] <rationalOgre> lunzie: paste your /etc/fstab
[04:00] <smw> sarthor, sudo /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart
[04:00] <bullgard4> I bought a computer having 4 GB RAM. I would like to know how much hard disk space should I allocate to a swap partition? I intend to hibernate this laptop computer when need arises.
[04:01] <KayneII> Okay I think that is the SATA Drive, the one with windows . I am looking for the drive that is now a usb the second drive.
[04:01] <sarthor> smw, bash: /etc/init.d/dhcpd: No such file or directory
[04:01] <smw> sarthor, do you have dhcpd installed? is it called dhcp?
[04:01] <NictraSavios> bullgard4, If you plan to hibernate, 5GB, thats = to ram + 25% for bad sectors
[04:02] <sarthor> smw, hcpd -v
[04:02] <sarthor> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Server 4.1.1-P1
[04:02] <lunzie> rationalOgre: fstab content http://pastebin.com/Z0ZHz3Vn
[04:02] <NictraSavios> bullgard4, A swap file could be created, though I see no advantage. If you dont pain to hibernate, You don't need one.
[04:02] <NictraSavios> The general rule is , 2x Ram, unless over 1GB, =
[04:02] <NictraSavios> then equal*
[04:02] <smw> sarthor, you need dhcpd installed
[04:03] <NictraSavios> bullgard4, I have kernel crash dumps, I use Arch not ubuntu, so trouble shooting is a must :P
[04:03] <NictraSavios> bullgard4, So i actually have a 10GB swap file.
[04:03] <sarthor> smw,  i showed you DHCP server installed, how to start and stop that server
[04:04] <bullgard4> NictraSavios: What do you mean by "If you don't pain to hibernate"? Say it in other words, please. (My native language is not Englisch.)
[04:04] <smw> sarthor, what is it called? dhcp3 maybe? dhcpd3?
[04:05] <sarthor> smw, dhcp3-server
[04:05] <rationalOgre> lunzie: That's the fstab from your disk? Or from the livecd?
[04:05] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Thinking that's the livecd's.
[04:05] <smw> sarthor, that is the package, is that also the init script?
[04:05] <smw> sarthor, sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp[tab]
[04:06] <sarthor> smw, no init scrip with dhcpd or squid TAB is not working, not completing the word
[04:06] <Xcytre> How do I set permissions on a www directory so I can edit the files with kompozer? the www-data group is the owner of the files.
[04:06] <Xcytre> and I'm in the www-data group
[04:06] <smw> sarthor, are you sure they are installed?
[04:06] <rationalOgre> lunzie: for the actual one I believe you'd have to go to /mnt/etc/fstab
[04:06] <NictraSavios> bullgard4, If you dont plan to hibernate , sorry typo.
[04:06] <rationalOgre> lunzie: since you are not chrooted at the moment.
[04:06] <sarthor> smw, yes, squid is running and dhcpd also
[04:06] <smw> Xcytre, did you logout after adding yourself to the group?
[04:07] <Xcytre> yes.. i've been in that group for a while
[04:07] <smw> sarthor, pastebin the output of ls -l /etc/init.d
[04:07] <evud> Hello. I have apache 2.2 installed currently at my computer, is there a way to downgrade at 2.0 version? I have an old plugin which won't work with new apache
[04:07] <smw> sarthor, paste.pocoo.org
[04:07] <lunzie> rationalOgre: chroot then open fstab then?
[04:07] <NictraSavios> bullgard4, If your not going to use the "hibernate" function, then you don't need one. If you want to be safe, use 5GB, thats my recommendation
[04:07] <rationalOgre> lunzie: No, you can access it still
[04:07] <smw> evud, there is no easy way to do that.
[04:07] <rationalOgre> lunzie: /etc should still be under /mnt
[04:07] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Where you mounted /dev/sda1
[04:08] <evud> smw: but is there a way?
[04:08] <sarthor> smw, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/404364/
[04:08] <BBHood> I have a dual boot setup with Natty and XP on two different discs.  The Live CD can see both discs, but the Natty install can only see the linux disc.  How can I get Natty to see the other disc (preferrably on startup)
[04:08] <smw> evud, obtain it and compile from source
[04:08] <Xcytre> smw i tried chmod 775 on one file and i still couldn't delete it.
[04:08] <YankDownUnder> BBHood, You can edit the /etc/fstab and include it as a mount
[04:09] <smw> Xcytre, type groups
[04:09] <stercor> evud:  I compile Apache all the time.  I can help you.
[04:09] <lunzie> rationalOgre: ok, here's /mnt/etc/fstab ... http://pastebin.com/yJ71WY7m
[04:09] <bullgard4> NictraSavios: Everything understood. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[04:09] <evud> stercor: Ok, thanks! I will give it a shot right now.
[04:10] <evud> smw: Thank you!
[04:10] <UcefKH> enter as root to use chmod
[04:10] <Xcytre> www-data is in the list
[04:10] <smw> sarthor, isc-dhcp-server exists
[04:10] <UcefKH> sudo -s & chmod 777
[04:10] <sarthor> smw, so?
[04:10] <UcefKH> & u wiil dele it
[04:10] <sabgenton> what is the equvalent to ntfsclone
[04:10] <sabgenton> ?
[04:10] <sabgenton> for ext
[04:10] <BBHood> YankDownUnder, how do I get write access to said file?
[04:10] <smw> Xcytre, did you chmod 775 the dir?
[04:10] <sabgenton> or close
[04:10] <Xcytre> no... how do I do that?
[04:10] <sabgenton> just want to ghost ext3 on the command line
[04:10] <BBHood> I can see that it's looking for the disk to be a ext4, when it's actually NTFS
[04:11] <smw> Xcytre, as root. chmod 775 /var/www
[04:11] <YankDownUnder> BBHood, Try: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[04:11] <stercor> evud: I started a chat session with you.  Do you see it?
[04:11] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Did you copy the whole file? Cause I see the last line says # /var was on /dev/sda10 during installation but then I see no corresponding UUID line
[04:11] <Xcytre> OK.. cool, thanks
[04:11] <HelloWorld321> I've got a problem with Samba shares on an Ubuntu system.  The Ubuntu system can see the other computers.  The other systems can see the Ubuntu system on the network, but can't browse it's shares.  The Ubuntu system CAN browse its own Samba shares at smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/ but CANNOT browse its own Samba shares at smb://localhost/ ... anybody got any tips or tests to try?
[04:11] <sarthor> smw, so for squid
[04:11] <smw> sarthor, squid seems to point to upstart...
[04:11] <rationalOgre> lunzie: so where's line 20?
[04:11] <rationalOgre> :)
[04:11] <sarthor> smw, yes do
[04:11] <NictraSavios> rationalOgre, 20 lines down.
[04:12] <smw> sarthor, sudo /etc/init.d/squid start does not work?
[04:12] <sarthor> smw, worked
[04:12] <rationalOgre> NictraSavios: Thanks for that. :P
[04:12] <ZykoticK9> sabgenton, i'd recommend the clonezilla iso for actually disk cloning, but i think the command you're asking about is dd
[04:12] <Xcytre> smw - i think that did it!... Thanks!
[04:12] <BBHood> ok, I'll try that, restarting!
[04:13] <ZykoticK9> sabgenton, s/iso/livecd/
[04:13] <franco> hi, where I can find info about ASLR implementation?
[04:13] <servulo> hello
[04:13] <servulo> hello
[04:14] <servulo> never seen this messaging program, very cool
[04:14] <sabgenton> ZykoticK9: dd is not smart
[04:14] <sabgenton> I can dd ntfs for example
[04:14] <sabgenton> but ntfsclone only copys ntfs parts of the partion
[04:14] <sabgenton> so its faster
[04:14] <lunzie> rationalOgre: whoops, keep thinking the terminal is a gedit or something, lol .... here's the full content: http://pastebin.com/nDGWnw6r
[04:14] <ZykoticK9> sabgenton, dd is filesystem independent
[04:14] <sabgenton> much faster
[04:14] <sabgenton> ZykoticK9: I don't want independent it's not as fast
[04:15] <NictraSavios> lunzie, It can be, type vim and then some file
[04:15] <NictraSavios> lunzie, vim is a console text editor :D
[04:15] <lunzie> NictraSavios: i'm using nano
[04:15] <sabgenton> ZykoticK9: ntfsclone for example can clone ntfs (they call it smart copy opposed to plain dd) to an image file that is still raw
[04:15] <lunzie> NictraSavios: simpler for me  ;)
[04:15] <sabgenton> still mountable
[04:15] <sabgenton> with mount
[04:16] <sabgenton> say you had heps of free space at the end it just zeros that space unstead of copying all the junk bits
[04:16] <sabgenton> there must be this for ext3
[04:17] <lunzie> rationalOgre: i have no idea how to interpret fstab but i'm wondering if there could be a UUID mismatch somewhere in the filesystem
[04:17] <cordiceps> 2.8 is enough for an install?
[04:17] <cordiceps> GB
[04:17] <Bsims> Ok I's annoyed my dvd isn't working, I can eject it with /dev/dvd but it acts like there is nothing in the drive
[04:18] <Bsims> any idea?
[04:18] <rationalOgre> lunzie: So it looks like that's all ok. Just for kicks run "blkid -o value -s UUID /dev/sda10" and compare it. Just to be sure.
[04:18] <NictraSavios> lunzie, I wont lie, I still prefer nano
[04:19] <ubuntu__> lol
[04:20] <ubuntu__> hallo
[04:20] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Have you tried cleaning the drive?
[04:20] <ubuntu__> no wary
[04:20] <tyler1234567> on ubuntu 10.10 can i create a launcher for chatzilla.. its a firefox addon
[04:21] <ubuntu__> why me not speaks
[04:21] <Bsims> its clean YankDownUnder, I commented out the entry old in fstab...
[04:21] <lunzie> rationalOgre: the blkid command turned up the same UUID as in fstab: dd639e3f-7077-47af-809f-6fb1331dee6d
[04:21] <cordiceps> yoo, what's the minimum space required for ubuntu install?
[04:21] <Bsims> YankDownUnder: it shows in sudo lshw -C disk
[04:21] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Ok. So there's no problems with the fstab entry for mounting the disk then.
[04:21] <Bsims> it should work damn it
[04:21] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Does it manually mount all right?
[04:22] <BBHood> what's the command for viewing all the connected disks and their file system types?
[04:22] <smw> BBHood, mount
[04:22] <bullgard4> I bought a laptop computer. I need to format its 500 GB before installing Ubuntu. What is the advantage to create a partition for /home?
[04:23] <lunzie> rationalOgre: yet /var cant be accessed for use and bootup
[04:23] <ubuntu__> oh me it's me
[04:23] <smw> bullgard4, you can replace the OS without replacing your data
[04:23] <Bsims> YankDownUnder: bsims@c933657-a:~$ sudo mount /dev/dvd /media/cdrom0
[04:23] <Bsims> mount: /dev/sr0: unknown device
[04:23] <cordiceps> lunzie: don't use uid use /dev/sda10, there done.
[04:23] <BBHood> hmm, it doesn't see my windows disk
[04:24] <rationalOgre> cordiceps: sorry, not the right answer. Thanks though
[04:24] <smw> BBHood, that is a list of MOUNTED partitions
[04:24] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Eeeek...not good mate.
[04:24] <BBHood> derp
[04:24] <Bsims> YankDownUnder: I know any clue
[04:24] <BBHood> is there a command to see partitions that aren't mounted?
[04:25] <tyler1234567> on ubuntu 10.10 can i create a launcher for chatzilla.. its a firefox addon
[04:25] <lunzie> cordiceps: use /dev/sda10 where? i havent been using uid ... if u mean when mounting and chrooting
[04:25] <Bsims> Ok it works for audo cds
[04:25] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Have you tried to "add" the device in yer /etc/fstab and reboot mate?
[04:25] <smw> BBHood, sudo fdisk -l /dev/whatever
[04:25] <smw> BBHood, where whatever is the hard drive you want to look at
[04:25] <Bsims> YankDownUnder: how?
[04:25] <rationalOgre> lunzie: He's talking about reverting /etc/fstab to use /dev/sda10 instead of the UUID, but that's not the right answer/solution.
[04:25] <smw> BBHood, sda is probably what you want
[04:25] <tensorpudding> tyler1234567: what would this do?
[04:26] <ZykoticK9> BBHood, actually use "sudo fdisk -l" will list all partitions fdisk sees.
[04:26] <Bsims> how do I get the UUIS
[04:26] <Bsims> er UUID
[04:26] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Hang on a tick mate...looking for something...
[04:26] <tyler1234567> tensorpudding, prevent me from having to open firefox first
[04:26] <tensorpudding> tyler1234567: not likely
[04:26] <ZykoticK9> Bsims, "sudo blkid"
[04:26] <dinesh> hi friends
[04:26] <Bsims> heh Ok
[04:26] <rationalOgre> lunzie: The reason for using UUID's is to make it so in case something changes in the drivers or whatnot, the filesystem will still be mounted properly.
[04:26] <bullgard4> smw: I do not intend to replace my OS in the sense that I will stay with Ubuntu. Do you mean that upgrading to another Ubuntu version is made more safe when having my own /home partition?
[04:26] <lunzie> rationalOgre: gotcha ... i rather leave the system language as i found it
[04:26] <Bsims> now working with a copied dvd but not a burned store one
[04:27] <tyler1234567> tensorpudding, what client do you use
[04:27] <tensorpudding> tyler1234567: client?
[04:27] <tyler1234567> irc chat client
[04:27] <dinesh> i unable to install my canon printer in ubuntu 11.04. ( canon MF4320D)
[04:27] <tyler1234567> program
[04:27] <smw> ZykoticK9, very cool. Next time highlight the person you are correcting as well :-)
[04:27] <BBHood> ok.  now to get it to mount on startup, would I put the whole "HPFS/NTFS" in the type field in the fstab?
[04:27] <tensorpudding> tyler1234567: it's smuxi
[04:27] <Bsims> Grr not listed with blkid
[04:27] <tyler1234567> k ill try that
[04:27] <kbrosnan> tyler1234567: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Command_Line_Options#Chrome and the correct chrome document
[04:27] <NictraSavios> dinesh, | !problem
[04:27] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Check this mate: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+question/23415
[04:28] <NictraSavios> !problem | dinesh
[04:28] <NictraSavios>  :p
[04:28] <ZykoticK9> smw, sorry man ;)
[04:28] <dinesh> canon MF4320d driver
[04:28] <smw> ZykoticK9, sorry?! That is an awesome command. thanks :-)
[04:29] <rationalOgre> lunzie: If you have a backup drive your best bet would be to copy out your /home directory and do a clean install
[04:29] <ZykoticK9> smw, sorry "for not highlighting you" ;)
[04:29] <rationalOgre> lunzie: At this point, i have no clue what has gone wrong.
[04:29] <drawmeat> Please help.  My log folder in my var directory is creating huge syslog and kern.log files (11.6gb) each in a matter of hours.  I only have a 30gb hard drive so this is a serious problem.  I deleted them once and did sudo apt-get install logrotate and it still happened again.  Any ideas wise ones?
[04:29] <rationalOgre> drawmeat: have you looked at the logs to see what they are filling up with?
[04:30] <doncams> hi... is there a way so that when I resize a window, I see the contents?
[04:30] <lunzie> rationalOgre: omg, that's what i was dreading ... all because of /var, it seems
[04:30] <cordiceps> wtdaah... 4.6 gigs??
[04:30] <drawmeat> rationalOgre, i'm a total noob, so i tried double clicking them and it says it can't allocate that much bytes to view the files
[04:30] <Bsims> YankDownUnder: done that, it will read burned dvds not pressed
[04:30] <lunzie> rationalOgre: last time i had a broken upgrade (to 10.10) i had to do the same .... too many reinstalls
[04:31] <Bsims> which does me no good darn it
[04:31] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Pressed?
[04:31] <Bsims> Yup
[04:31] <Bsims> and it just worked, till k9copy started throwing errors at me
[04:31] <rationalOgre> drawmeat: open a terminal and type tail /var/log/syslog
[04:31]  * YankDownUnder checks the ironing board to see if wife is ironing DVD's
[04:31] <Bsims> it won't read a factory made dvd
[04:32] <lunzie> rationalOgre: ok, i'll post a bug in launchpad as a final ditch attempt .... cuz that's where i had to resort to wiping and reinstalling everything, yikes!
[04:32] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, AH....right...gotcha mate...
[04:32] <rationalOgre> lunzie: I'm sorry man. Perhaps someone else would better be able to help you but I dunno. that seems hella odd. I can't think of why it's happening.
[04:32] <tyler1234567> kbrosnan, thank you
[04:32] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, As before stated, have you run a CD/DVD cleaning disk through the drive mate?
[04:32] <drawmeat> rationalOgre, kernel: [35140.202220] Either the lower file is not in a valid eCryptfs format, or the key could not be retrieved. Plaintext passthrough mode is not enabled; returning -EIO (over and over and over)
[04:32] <Bsims> YankDownUnder: I am tempted to plug in the old one back in
[04:32] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, I'd give it a go mate...
[04:32] <lunzie> rationalOgre: appreciated ur assistance, thanks
[04:33] <Arroyo1010> Hello. I have just finished upgrading Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 via the updater. After the reboot Ubuntu hangs on  logo. I tried restarting the VM, and the same happens. Hang on Ubuntu logo
[04:33] <Bsims> YankDownUnder: not at this time of night, I assumed it was erroring out trying to read a copyprotected disk
[04:33] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Shouldn't do mate..."reading" a disk, nah.
[04:33] <Arroyo1010> I am not a linux noob, I just need a good pointer in which direction to go now, what to troubleshoot first, and how
[04:33] <dinesh> any networking expert
[04:33] <Bsims> well copy protection often uses bad sectors so yeah it can crap out a drive temporarily
[04:34] <bullgard4> smw: I do not intend to replace my OS in the sense that I will stay with Ubuntu. Do you mean that upgrading to another Ubuntu version is made more safe when having my own /home partition?
[04:34] <bazhang> dinesh, ##networking
[04:34] <smw> !anyone > dinesh
[04:34] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, on the grub2 screen (hold shift if you don't see it) use "e" to edit the boot line - and try removing "quite splash" and/or try "nomodeset" - then i think ctrl+x to boot (but not 100% sure on that, it says what to use to boot)
[04:35] <smw> bullgard4, ubuntu (I believe) allows you to reinstall without overwriting /home
[04:35] <bazhang> Arroyo1010, this is a vm? why not just get the most recent iso and install from that
[04:35] <bullgard4> smw: Thank you very much for your judgement.
[04:35] <Arroyo1010> ZykoticK9 will try now. bazhang  because i'm trying to see how reliable is updating via updater :)
[04:35] <Arroyo1010> so far: not so good. Also: i don't like giving up
[04:35] <smw> bullgard4, however, a separate /home allows you to separate users from system.  I think I will be leaving ubuntu soon ;-)
[04:36] <smw> bullgard4, it is also useful if you have multiple OSes
[04:36] <lunzie> rationalOgre: i dunno why ubuntu filesystem couldnt be as stable as the live cd! (half j/k) .... wonder if it's a 64-bit problem?
[04:37] <doncams> hi... is there a way so that when I resize a window, I see the contents?
[04:37] <dinesh> need help in networking
[04:37] <deww> doncams: alt-F8
[04:37] <smw> !aks > dinesh
[04:37] <smw> !ask > dinesh
[04:38] <doncams> deww, doesn't help
[04:38] <Arroyo1010> ZykoticK9: How do i save my edit in this grub editor?
[04:38] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, you cant
[04:38] <Arroyo1010> so, what do i do now?
[04:38] <bullgard4> smw: How much size should I allocate to my /home partition? The hdd size is 500 GB.
[04:38] <Arroyo1010> how do i exit with changes being applied?
[04:39] <doncams> this is going to irritate some but I mean like in "windows" when you resize a window
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, edit /etc/default/grub when you've booted.  Use ctrl+x (or something?) to boot.
[04:39] <rationalOgre> drawmeat: So, apparently when you installed you used the encrypted filesystem option.
[04:39] <Arroyo1010> but you told me to edit the boot line by using E on grub
[04:39] <Arroyo1010> i have edited it out
[04:39] <Arroyo1010> what do i press now? :)
[04:39] <deww> doncams: yeah alt-f8 works a little like alt-space-resize or whatever in windows
[04:39] <smw> bullgard4, up to you. I give between 40GB to /, 2 x Ram for swap, and the rest is home
[04:39] <dinesh> #ubuntu how to do networking in ubuntu
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, right and after you've edited i think is says at the bottom ctrl+x to boot (but i could be wrong)
[04:39] <AgentGreen> samba
[04:40] <Arroyo1010> k let me check
[04:40] <smw> bullgard4, you can then leave 50GB at the end for playing with other OSes :-)
[04:40] <rationalOgre> drawmeat: This is a known bug with that. Still being worked on. (Actually: It's unassigned.) Your best option is to reinstall but NOT use encryption.
[04:40] <Arroyo1010> sorry, you are correct
[04:40] <bullgard4> smw: I see. Thank you.
[04:40] <Arroyo1010> thank you ZykoticK9
[04:40] <doncams> no, there is only an orange transparent rectangle which you can resize
[04:40] <doncams> but you don't see window
[04:40] <smw> bullgard4, you need to decide which of my habits you think makes sense ;-)
[04:40] <bullgard4> smw: Yes.
[04:40] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Like I said, it doesn't make sense but perhaps someone out there knows more than I do about what has gone wrong.
[04:41] <deww> doncams: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:42] <Arroyo1010> Ok, the last entry i see while booting without splash is "Checking Battery state OK", and a blinking cursor beneath
[04:42] <Arroyo1010> any ideas anyone? :)
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, give "nomodeset" a try.
[04:43] <Arroyo1010> on it
[04:44] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, is this a VM?
[04:44] <Arroyo1010> yes ZykoticK9
[04:44] <AgentGreen> virtual machine
[04:45] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, doubt nomodeset is you issue then.
[04:45] <Arroyo1010> ZykoticK9 , yes, same thing happened :)
[04:46] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, TBH upgrading and ubuntu often results in breakages.  Many experienced Ubuntu users will recommend fresh installs over upgrades (obviously some will disagree).
[04:46] <sam350> hey all.  After package upgrade Apache2 will not show index.html or index.php in subfolders of my sites-available
[04:46] <Arroyo1010> thank you very much ZykoticK9 for your help. This is probably the 30th time i hear the exact same advice. I just wanted to give it a go :)
[04:46] <sam350> but the root folder does show index.html
[04:47] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, you're very welcome.  Hope you figure it out!  Good luck.
[04:47] <sam350> I can indeed hit www.myserver.com/foo/index.html  but if I hit www.myserver.com/foo I get 'The page you were looking for does not exist'
[04:48] <Arroyo1010> Oh, i'm done figuring it out. I could end up chasing infinite broken stuff. I will just reinstall it with the full iso :)
[04:48] <sam350> anyone have ideas? I'm searching everywhere
[04:48] <rationalOgre> sam350: You need to configure apache to serve a default file
[04:48] <ZykoticK9> sam350, does Apache have some "default" page switch or something (i haven't played with apache in years)
[04:49] <rationalOgre> sam350: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_dir.html#directoryindex
[04:50] <grmrgecko> Ok, lets see here. I have a Windows 7 Netbook and I want to install Ubuntu, I made 2 additional partitions on it (CD and ubuntu install) and I have the ubuntu ISO. How do I put the Ubuntu ISO on a partition so I can install Ubuntu? I know all of this is easy if it was ubuntu to begin with...
[04:50] <grmrgecko> The netbook has no CD drive/Flopy drive and my USB sticks won't boot.
[04:50] <grmrgecko> and the one which does boot is only 250MB.
[04:51] <grmrgecko> so the full ubuntu install disk won't fit
[04:51] <Arroyo1010> hmm, is there a netinstall ubuntu image?
[04:51] <Arroyo1010> one sec grmrgecko
[04:52] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, minimal - it's basically just the debian installer, with Ubuntu repositories (you even get debian wallpaper)
[04:52] <grmrgecko> if there is a small installer that'll fit on that 250MB usb drive, that'll be good
[04:52] <Arroyo1010> grmrgecko https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:52] <Arroyo1010> lol i will use it too xD
[04:52] <Arroyo1010> right now
[04:52] <grmrgecko> thanks
[04:53] <grmrgecko> You guys still support PPC
[04:53] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, if you want "Gnome" do NOT use the gnome package, use gnome-desktop-environment ("gnome" won't work BTW)
[04:53] <grmrgecko> Awesome
[04:53] <Arroyo1010> ZykoticK9 thank you for the tip. I will download it now and try it
[04:53] <grmrgecko> For some reason Google is never help for me, thanks Arroyo1010
[04:53] <Guest34006> ello
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, be careful - minimal is what led me away from Ubuntu ;)
[04:54] <Arroyo1010> ZykoticK9 what distro are you using now ?
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, debian
[04:54] <smw> hi Guest34006. Can you get a real name? type /nick a-new-name
[04:54] <Guest34006> how r u all today
[04:54] <Magic-Fx> Hey everyone... Can someone please tell me what might cause a laptop (compaq presario 2250) to stall at the following screen while trying to boot from a freshly burnt ubuntu 10.04 netbook iso... http://www.magiceffects.geek.nz/pics/ubuntufail.jpg
[04:54] <Arroyo1010> ZykoticK9: ah. It's too plain vanilla for me :D
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> Magic-Fx, if you press a key does something happen?
[04:55] <Magic-Fx> nah nothing... I can't even ctrl+ alt+ del
[04:55] <Guest34006> it wont work
[04:56] <ZykoticK9> Magic-Fx, try rebooting and as SOON as you see that screen press a key (hopefully you'll get a menu with boot options)
[04:56] <Magic-Fx> ok then; no particular key?
[04:56] <ZykoticK9> Magic-Fx, space maybe?  i don't think it matters (could be wrong)
[04:57] <bionicandroid> k
[04:57] <DasEi> Guest34771: fine, unless i lost a ssh after reboot
[04:58] <DasEi> bionicandroid: ^
[04:59] <Magic-Fx> thanks ZykoticK9 -- you rock :)
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> Magic-Fx, i'd recommend you start by trying F6 and setting nomodeset and see if that boots correctly
[05:00] <Magic-Fx> i pressed space as soon as the ISOLINUX text left the screen and it loaded the language selection menu immediately
[05:00] <Magic-Fx> so im away laughing now thanks dude
[05:00] <ZykoticK9> Magic-Fx, cool
[05:00] <bionicandroid> how u all  doin
[05:01] <barf_barf> hi there i'm trying to run a installer thats a "ELF 32-bit LSB executable" , I've given it +x permissions yet still get "Permission denied" even as root , any ideas ?
[05:02] <ZykoticK9> barf_barf, are you using 64bit Ubuntu?
[05:03] <barf_barf> ZykoticK9: No I don't think so how can i check ?
[05:03] <celthunder> barf_barf: if you're using 64 bit run it in a chroot or install the 32 bit libraries it needs
[05:03] <ZykoticK9> barf_barf, if you aren't sure - in a terminal "uname -m"
[05:03] <ZykoticK9> celthunder, chroot not required
[05:03] <cordiceps> so ppl basically lying here? I just went through a re-install to check Uinity.
[05:04] <celthunder> ZykoticK9: i said or add the 32 bit libraries
[05:04] <barf_barf> no it's i686 , so thats 32 to bit
[05:04] <celthunder> cordiceps: that's what we do best
[05:04] <cordiceps> and get the error 'It seems that you don't have the hardvare to run unity defaulting to...'
[05:05] <celthunder> cordiceps: ok? that message seems pretty clear
[05:05] <franco> quit
[05:05] <celthunder> barf_barf: sh <file> ?
[05:06] <rationalOgre> !attitude | cordiceps
[05:06] <sygeek> Can Ubuntu's unity be replaced with gnome3, if so, then how?
[05:06] <bazhang> sygeek, not at the moment no
[05:06] <celthunder> sygeek: uninstall unity and install gnome3
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> !gnome3 | sygeek
[05:06] <bazhang> celthunder, very bad advice
[05:06] <DasEi> sygeek: on your own risk, can add repo for gnome 3 and switch default session
[05:06] <hololight> 11.04 will not boot on my hp g71. I tried the live cd first, then installed from the alt cd; nothing. Starts boot and then seems to hang. Are there any known issues with this laptop?
[05:06] <cordiceps> I don't have an attitude, I just wanted to check unity.
[05:06] <bazhang> sygeek, it will require a reinstall
[05:07] <hololight> I have ran 8.04 and mint 8 for quite some time on this laptop
[05:07] <cordiceps> by the way I am using qemu here.
[05:07] <DasEi> sygeek: safer is to simply switch back
[05:07] <cordiceps> earlier ppl swore to me that it'd work.
[05:07] <DasEi> !classic
[05:07] <ZykoticK9> cordiceps, qemu/kvm do not have the 3d support for Unity
[05:07] <sygeek> So, indirectly you guys mean, use gnome3 but it will screw things up. So it's better you don't
[05:08] <ZykoticK9> sygeek, if you want gnome3 see fedora
[05:08] <sygeek> Well, just wanna know if Gnome3 > Unity..?
[05:08] <rationalOgre> hololight: Have you tried 10.10?
[05:08] <bazhang> sygeek, not indirectly, its a ppa and unsupported
[05:08] <DasEi> bazhang: reinstall ? I added gnome3 by ppa in vm, worked fine
[05:08] <celthunder> sygeek: install minimum and then add gnome3 and whatever else you want
[05:08] <sygeek> alright :)
[05:08] <bazhang> celthunder, please dont recommend that here
[05:08] <cordiceps> gnome3 is available+?
[05:08] <cordiceps> I'd love to try that if it works on qemu
[05:09] <bazhang> cordiceps, in an unsupported ppa yes. use at your own risk
[05:09] <hololight> rationalOgre: no I have not, oh, using 64 bit, but that hasn't caused a problem in the past
[05:09] <sygeek> Is gnome3 better than Unity?
[05:09] <sygeek> I want an honest answer
[05:09] <celthunder> bazhang: which? gnome3? i don't recommend it...he wanted it.  and i've tried unity/gnome3 i just went back to xmonad
[05:09] <c0decub> can i dual boot ubuntu without the CD? like mounting an iso i've already shrank my drive to 75gb
[05:09] <bazhang> sygeek, its not supported here. not stable at the moment.
[05:09] <celthunder> sygeek: for what?
[05:09] <ZykoticK9> sygeek, that's a !best question
[05:09] <cordiceps> lol, what risk? is a testing VM
[05:09] <rationalOgre> hololight: not seeing any known issues with the g71's and 11.04
[05:09] <bazhang> celthunder, correct. unsupported, so please do not recommend it
[05:10] <rationalOgre> hololight: you sure the media is good?
[05:10] <sygeek> I don't mean with Ubuntu, I mean in general. celthunder : As a desktop environment, is it better than unity or not?
[05:10] <cordiceps> alright so how do I install it?
[05:10] <celthunder> sygeek: look up features and what you use...i wouldn't touch either unless i'm being paid to
[05:10] <bazhang> sygeek, please dont poll here
[05:10] <c0decub> celthunder: what exactly does that mean
[05:11] <bazhang> c0decub, not dual boot, but a wubi install
[05:11] <Arroyo1010> sygeek: here is a usefull article (you have pages 2,3,4 etc) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_managers1&num=1
[05:11] <c0decub> if i use wubi will it clear my main partition of windoze
[05:11] <sygeek> Not polling, just wanted someone's honest opinion. Looks like you guys got offended, sorry if that's the case. I won't go off-topic now
[05:11] <rationalOgre> c0decub: It means he doesn't touch Unity or Gnome unless paid to do so. :D
[05:11] <bazhang> c0decub, no
[05:11] <celthunder> c0decub: that i wouldn't touch unity OR gnome3 again unless i was being paid to.
[05:11] <Arroyo1010> sygeek, check tthe link i gave you
[05:11] <c0decub> ok
[05:11] <c0decub> ok
[05:11] <c0decub> you said either though?
[05:11] <c0decub> i thought normal ubuntu was OK
[05:11] <cordiceps> what about some give me a hand?
[05:12] <bazhang> c0decub, wubi installs inside windows, so it wont be a true dual boot
[05:12] <hololight> rationalOgre: Yes, both cd's tested good
[05:12] <bazhang> cordiceps, with what
[05:12] <joseph_> does eny one
[05:12] <c0decub> I guess I can burn the disk or something/
[05:12] <cordiceps> bazhang: gnome shell
[05:12] <rationalOgre> hololight: Hrm, so does it hang on a black screen with two little icons down at the bottom?
[05:13] <bazhang> cordiceps, there's a ppa, search for it via ppa search on launchpad; as its a ppa, it's unsupported when things go wrong
[05:13] <bionicandroid> a
[05:13] <sam350> I am using standard config files
[05:14] <cordiceps> bazhang: here? https://launchpad.net/ which name should I search?
[05:15] <ZykoticK9> sam350, why are you asking the same question(s) in #debian and #ubuntu?  which are you actually using (seems like Debian)?
[05:15] <Snake007> Hi
[05:15] <Snake007> guys
[05:15] <UcefKH> hi
[05:15] <bazhang> cordiceps, ppa search is hosted on launchpad yes
[05:15] <Snake007> I have a mac ox x
[05:15] <Snake007> from last fall 2010
[05:15] <UcefKH> realy
[05:15] <sygeek> Arroyo1010: Give the link again please, can't seem to find it :/
[05:15] <Snake007> but the gnome 3
[05:15] <Snake007> does not work
[05:15] <bazhang> Snake007, this is ubuntu support try apple support
[05:15] <Snake007> on it properly
[05:15] <FloodBot1> Snake007: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:15] <UcefKH> snake pm me
[05:15] <sam350> Zykotick9: because huge number of people are using apache2 in these distros.  And noone in #httpd/#apache has a word to say
[05:16] <sam350> and I have be searching everywhere
[05:16] <Arroyo1010> sygeek i sent it to you on private
[05:16] <celthunder> sam350: uhm so you are using the default in sites-enabled and it won't autoload index
[05:16] <celthunder> sam350: index.php or index.html or niether?
[05:17] <frustro> so, i gotta try and recover this adaptec raid card, but I need a floppy.  I can make the pc boot from floppy but cant mount /dev/fd0 /tmp/fd0 to create the msdos boot disk let alone caop the files to the fd.  any ideas? Linux ubuntu-bot 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:17] <hololight> rationalOgre: is a blank screen (backlight on) didn't notice icons; is responsive sometimes to a ctrl-alt-delete
[05:17] <celthunder> frustro: does /tmp/fd0 exist? are you doing that as root ?
[05:18] <celthunder> sam350: ?
[05:18] <frustro> sudo su and create the /tmp/fd0 then try to mount /dev/fd0 wich does exist.
[05:18] <celthunder> ok
[05:19] <celthunder> does the floppy work (aka is it bad)
[05:20] <frustro>  I can make the pc boot from floppy
[05:20] <dinesh> canon MF4320d driver and how to instal
[05:20] <bazhang> dinesh, printer?
[05:20] <dinesh> yes
[05:20] <celthunder> dinesh: cups
[05:21] <bazhang> linuxprinting.org dinesh check the database
[05:21] <dinesh> its a multifunctional printer
[05:21] <dinesh> will do that
[05:21] <dinesh> thanks
[05:21] <frustro> celthunder, it's the only board in the house with a fd port. Sad part is, I have a bootable floppy with no usb on it, and that same floppy can get to dos, but ubuntu cant see it so i cant change the disk!
[05:22] <celthunder> :(
[05:22] <celthunder> and lol yeah...i stopped building in floppies and dvd/cd roms in my comps a while ago
[05:23]  * YankDownUnder is upset there aren't any 1.44mb floppies in the house cuz he got a free Dell Powerede that wants an OS
[05:23] <ketterer> hello
[05:23] <celthunder> ketterer: sup
[05:23] <ketterer> how does the NVIDIA GeForce GT 425M run these days
[05:23] <bazhang> dinesh, ask in channel please
[05:23] <celthunder> YankDownUnder: take the hdd out and put an os on it somewhere else and put it back
[05:24] <ketterer> not alot looking at getting a new laptop
[05:24] <celthunder> ketterer: are you having issues with it?
[05:24] <dinesh>  > baxhang-there is no driver for canon
[05:24] <frustro> ha, this can boot from usb and i can make that.....problem solved.
[05:24] <frustro> cya
[05:24] <YankDownUnder> celthunder, hehehehehe...not so simple - I don't have any SCSI stuff laying about (anymore - it's been given away long ago) ;)
[05:25] <ketterer> celthunder: im looking into getting a new laptop, and all the reports and artivles i find on the card are fairly old and not in them they say changes coming
[05:26] <celthunder> ketterer: ah
[05:26] <celthunder> ketterer: unfortunatley i'm always too lazy to research before buying i just pick my card buy it and make it work after :)
[05:26] <celthunder> ketterer: what do they say is "coming" and how old are the articles?
[05:26] <ketterer> i usually do to but this time i want to have a computer that fully works
[05:27] <YankDownUnder> BUY A MACBOOK PRO 17" !!!! (hehehehehehehe)
[05:27] <ketterer> article are mid 2010 and come say that they are soon to release the next drivers for linux for the cards
[05:28] <cordiceps> yoo, why shutdown, restart, hibernate log off don't have icons??
[05:28] <celthunder> ketterer: nvidia just released a new driver set a few days/weeks ago
[05:28] <cordiceps> something wrong with my install?
[05:28] <Arroyo1010> ZykoticK9 i just went with the default unity install. I'm off to bed now. see you later ppls :p
[05:28] <ketterer> from what iv read they work really well anyway, but some of the big things like seem to have been waiting
[05:28] <celthunder> ketterer: such as?
[05:28] <ketterer> like its supposed to be a big one for 3D and full HD
[05:28] <dinesh> how to instal microsoft office in ubuntu 11.04
[05:29] <YankDownUnder> dinesh, WINE or Crossover Office mate.
[05:29] <ketterer> does anykind of 3D work in linux and ubuntu
[05:29] <celthunder> dinesh: ....libreoffice if you MUST have ms office crossover or wine
[05:29] <cordiceps> omg, now my theme is gone!!
[05:29] <cordiceps> I just rebooted
[05:29] <YankDownUnder> dinesh, Otherwise, use OpenOffice or LibreOffice
[05:29] <celthunder> ketterer: yes ? assuming you have mesa
[05:29] <ketterer> mesa?
[05:29] <ketterer> what is mesa
[05:30] <dinesh> ms office crossover?
[05:30] <celthunder> ketterer: that's the 3d libraries for linux
[05:30] <YankDownUnder> dinesh, Crossover Office is a product that allows you to very nicely install MS Office 2007 (that's as far as it gets) onto a linux system.
[05:31] <YankDownUnder> dinesh, http://www.codeweavers.com/
[05:31] <Mr_Giraffe> hi, I recently installed (and then removed) the tomcat6 package, yet it's continuing to show up as a service that starts up on boot. how can I get rid of it?
[05:31] <aclantis_> codec problems
[05:31] <aclantis_> h264
[05:31] <cordiceps> help with my un-themed ubuntu
[05:31] <tomreyn> Mr_Giraffe: try this on a terminal: sudo apt-get purge tomcat6
[05:31] <ketterer> i see
[05:32] <Mr_Giraffe> tomreyn, I did, to no avail
[05:32] <ketterer> sorry i was reading another review
[05:32] <YankDownUnder> aclantis_, Mate, can you be slightly if not more specific?
[05:32] <Mr_Giraffe> also sudo update-rc.d -f tomcat6 remove
[05:32] <ketterer> i remember there was a library of computer that work well in linux
[05:33] <tomreyn> Mr_Giraffe: where does "tomcat6" show up as "a service that starts at boot"?
[05:33] <ketterer> do you know where that is
[05:33] <ketterer> it was started by cononical and its started out fairly well maintained
[05:33] <YankDownUnder> "Playonlinux" ??
[05:33] <Valerie> hello all =]
[05:33] <dinesh> advise for installing canon MF4320d (.ppd files are not available)
[05:33] <Mr_Giraffe> tomreyn, it's a web server that starts on port 8080, tying it up on startup and making it such that I can't kill it and replace it with a different server on that port
[05:34] <ketterer> sorry it was more of a data base of lots of computers and how they did with ubuntu
[05:34] <YankDownUnder> dinesh, http://openprinting.org
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> dinesh: checked the canon site for drivers?
[05:34] <Mr_Giraffe> tomreyn, I think something I did worked...reinstalled the tomcat6 package (no effect realistically) and then purged it
[05:35] <betelnut> Can anyone help me in recovering a system with a flashdrive
[05:35] <betelnut> ?
[05:35] <YankDownUnder> betelnut, Can ya be a bit more specific?
[05:35] <dinesh> yes i have checked and downloaded but it's not working and only .deb is there
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> dinesh: yep, the canon site has a linux driver for you
[05:36] <Mr_Giraffe> well, only one way to see if that worked
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> dinesh: then install the deb, then it will be in the list of drivers available when you kick off the printer install
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> betelnut: can you give some details
[05:37] <betelnut> sure what kind of details do you need? =\
[05:37] <betelnut> (sorry not to sure)
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> betelnut: just the situation as well as your goal
[05:37] <betelnut> Okay
[05:38] <dinesh> i tried its not installing
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> dinesh: you could try extractnig the debs in a folder, see what they hold
[05:40] <dinesh> there is 3 folders of Debian,etc and usr
[05:40] <dinesh> what to do on this
[05:40] <q0_0p> wanted some opinions empathy or pidgin?
[05:40] <dinesh> use empathu
[05:41] <dinesh> empathy
[05:41] <q0_0p> dinesh, why
[05:41] <betelnut> I'm trying to use "rescue a broken system" to install Ubuntu 11.04 onto my hp-mini. I've gotten through the all the steps until i need to use commandline to do some sort of mounting =\
[05:41] <betelnut> to be honest i have no idea how to use command line other than "cd" and "dir"
[05:41] <betelnut> (lol)
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> dinesh: hunt through, see if you can find something useful
[05:42] <dinesh> qo_opits good i am using except facebook its supports to everything
[05:42] <genewitch>  tcp socket: Address family not supported by protocol <--- what does this error mean?
[05:42] <dinesh> action, not getting anything.. getting tired
[05:42] <dinesh> can you help me
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> dinesh: usually the debs in stakll right. Did you remove the printer from the printer application then reboot with it attached. Can help
[05:43] <betelnut> Oh and i'm using a USB
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> betelnut: if you are reinstalling, why do you need to rescue a broken system. Any changes you make will be removed when you install
[05:44] <dinesh> action, trying that
[05:45] <gnewb> genewitch: ipv6?
[05:45] <dinesh> help me to do networking
[05:45] <genewitch> gnewb: maybe
[05:46] <Ademan> anyone know of a good cli rsync backup system?
[05:46] <gnewb> genewitch: That is where I saw or see many errors at, there are Debian Manuals and other information on that.
[05:46] <genewitch> gnewb: no, i don't have it
[05:46] <genewitch> Ademan: crontab + rsync?
[05:46] <betelnut> Well for some reason i cant boot into my system at all. So i figured i'd just start all over again. But when i boot the USB all is well until i select "Install on hard drive" or "Boot from USB" --- all it does ti take me back to the same screen...
[05:47] <gnewb> genewitch: Socket(7)?
[05:48] <kumar> hi
[05:48] <dinesh> hi kumar
[05:48] <dinesh> where are you from
[05:48] <kumar> hi
[05:48] <dinesh> do you know networking
[05:48] <kumar> hi dinesh
[05:48] <kumar> no
[05:48] <kumar> you??
[05:48] <dinesh> no
[05:49] <MnDeadhead> i lost my login screen where i choose which desktop to run.
[05:49] <MnDeadhead> it logs in as root automatically now
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> MnDeadhead: reinstall gdm, should make things ok
[05:49] <MnDeadhead> oh?
[05:50] <MnDeadhead> i tried to run classic gnome on natty an thats when the trubs started
[05:50] <gnewb> genewitch: Is it a Shishid?
[05:50] <MnDeadhead> but will do ty ActionParsnip
[05:51] <MnDeadhead> whats gdm short for i forgot
[05:51] <MnDeadhead> heh
[05:52] <ZykoticK9> MnDeadhead, Gnome Display Manager
[05:52] <genewitch> gnewb: i don't know what the means
[05:53] <MnDeadhead> o, ty
[05:53] <gnewb> genewitch: Look here for that:> http://www.gnu.org/software/shishi/manual/html_node/Starting-Shishid.html
[05:53] <genewitch> no it's not that
[05:53] <genewitch> it's http-json proxy thing
[05:54] <genewitch> takes json over http and proxies it to an rpc server
[05:54] <MnDeadhead> other thing i tired to do is auto start unity 2-d in classic mode, to no luck..
[05:55] <gnewb> genewitch: Is it the Python script?
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> MnDeadhead: just add unity-2d-launcher and unity-2d-panel to your startup items, simple
[05:55] <gnewb> genewitch: Here, maybe:> http://docs.python.org/library/socket.html
[05:55] <MnDeadhead> oh, ty ActionParsnip. i had the command a lil off
[05:55] <genewitch> gnewb: no it's a c binary
[05:55] <gnewb> ahhh
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> MnDeadhead: http://pastie.org/2050718  is how I do it
[05:55] <MnDeadhead> thnx
[05:56] <gnewb> genewitch: Sounds like is a BSD bind or port?
[05:57] <bullgard4> I bought a laptop computer having an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T7500 @ 2.2 GHz width 64 bit and 4 GB RAM. I do not have a 64-bit Ubuntu CD. Is there a disadvantage it I install a 32-bit Ubuntu? I plan to use this computer for VirtualBox simulations also.
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: you wont use all the features in your CPU
[05:58] <grmrgecko> My grandma cannot use windows without getting a virus, so I'm giving her Ubuntu and going to make it easy for her to understand.
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: you will have a maximum ram of 3Gb but you can use PAE to address 12Gb, however, each process will have a maximum ram of 3Gb each
[05:58] <gnewb> genewitch: This should be it, if is C and Binary, http://linux.die.net/man/7/socket
[05:58] <grmrgecko> I had to use Microsoft System Sweeper to remove the virus and all of that junk
[05:58] <grmrgecko> I just hate windows.
[05:59] <grmrgecko> I'm not sure if any of you ubuntu people feel the same about windows.
[05:59] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: I can do easily with the limitation of 3 GB RAM per process. Is this the most seroious limitation?