[00:00] <Tweek900> CPrgmSwR2: are you any good with ubuntu??
[00:00] <CPrgmSwR2> Tweek900: Yes and No why do you ask
[00:00] <Tweek900> i'm trying to install java
[00:00] <Tweek900> and i got this agreement that came up but i dont have a clue how to accept it
[00:01] <CPrgmSwR2> Tweek900: in the console right?
[00:01] <Tweek900> yes
[00:01] <Tweek900> in the console
[00:02] <CPrgmSwR2> did you scroll to the very bottom of the liscense aggreement
[00:02] <Tweek900> yep
[00:02] <Tweek900> like at the bottom it says ok but theres no way to click it
[00:02] <Tweek900> i've pressed enter and so on
[00:02] <Tweek900> but nothing
[00:02] <CPrgmSwR2> What is the package you are accepting
[00:03] <Tweek900> sdk sun java6
[00:03] <CPrgmSwR2> because I am going to have to try and install it to remember how
[00:03] <Tweek900> i'm super new to linux i've used windows for 17 years
[00:03] <Tweek900>   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[00:03] <EqualizeR> try pressing Tab
[00:04] <Tweek900> pro
[00:04] <Tweek900> thanks :)
[00:04] <Tweek900> is there a easy way to learn about this stuff?
[00:04] <CPrgmSwR2> did that do the trick Tweek900
[00:05] <Tweek900> yes it did
[00:05] <Tweek900> thank you both :)
[00:05] <EqualizeR> i got through the same problem in the 1º time...
[00:05] <Tweek900> lol yeah i'm way to new to this linux thing
[00:06] <AngryKoala> linux from scratch!
[00:06] <Tweek900> ?
[00:07] <AngryKoala> lfs, a distribution that makes you do everything from scratch
[00:07] <Tweek900> doesn't sound fun lol
[00:08] <Tweek900> i need like a list of commands like the sudo thing wtf is that?
[00:08] <AngryKoala> you'll know plenty by the end lol
[00:08] <Tweek900> lol i bet... if i ever got to the end
[00:08] <CPrgmSwR2> gentoo is a fun distro for that stuff
[00:08] <AngryKoala> http://www.linuxac.org/forum/attachments/forum45/7361d1241417809-cli-background.jpg
[00:08] <Tweek900> gentoo?
[00:11] <Tweek900> anyone know why i wouldn't be able to load www.runescape.com
[00:12] <EqualizeR> if your browser dont have the java plugin, it wont load
[00:12] <Tweek900> how do i get the java plugin on my browser?
[00:12] <Tweek900> lol
[00:12] <Tweek900> i thought thats what downloading java did
[00:13] <CPrgmSwR2> Tweek900: no it does not
[00:13] <CPrgmSwR2> you have to link it into the firefox browser
[00:14] <Tweek900> i have the konqueror
[00:14] <Tweek900> do i need to download firefox?
[00:15] <EqualizeR> sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin
[00:15] <EqualizeR> try that
[00:18] <Tweek900> ok its downloading something
[00:18] <Tweek900> how do you learn all of this?
[00:19] <AngryKoala> doing it over and over
[00:19] <Tweek900> tbh i'm just running this off the live cd right now
[00:19] <EqualizeR> yep
[00:19] <Tweek900> checking it all out before i install it
[00:21] <AngryKoala> its like asking how does one learn windows?  The difference I see here is that there are a few more aspects to learn, but thus giving more configurability and choice of options
[00:22] <Tweek900> yeah, i plan on installing this if i can get everything to work lol
[00:26] <Tweek900> ok this applet started but nothing is happening
[00:27] <sunnydrake> hi all :) can anyone help i think i missing some pice of logic... i want to share music folder via soft links (or hard) via useres on my pc.. so i make sudo ln -s /home/user1/Music /home/user2/ .. sudo chmod a+rwx -R Music; sudo chmod -R 777 Music...
[00:27] <sunnydrake> but when i try to access as user2 to Music link i get permission denied... no lsattr is set to folder
[00:30] <Tweek900> EqualizeR: the applet is loaded but the screen is just gray
[00:30] <EqualizeR> well, its a start
[00:30] <Tweek900> and ideals
[00:31] <EqualizeR> which browser are you using?
[00:31] <Tweek900> konqueror
[00:31] <AngryKoala> =/
[00:31] <Tweek900> ?
[00:31] <EqualizeR> try firefox
[00:31] <EqualizeR> sudo aptitude install firefox
[00:31] <Tweek900> how do i get it? sudo apt-get firefox?
[00:32] <Tweek900> aww forgot the install
[00:32] <Tweek900> lol i fail
[00:32] <EqualizeR> almost there
[00:32] <Tweek900> whats the differances between aptitude and apt-get?
[00:32] <EqualizeR> no difference, its the same
[00:32] <Tweek900> it didn't download anything =\
[00:33] <EqualizeR> maybe its already installed
[00:33] <Tweek900> yeah it says its the newest version
[00:33] <Tweek900> where would it be? lol
[00:34] <EqualizeR> just tipe firefox on the console
[00:34] <AngryKoala> alt+f2, firefox
[00:34] <AngryKoala> that too
[00:34] <Tweek900> got it
[00:34] <Tweek900> wow alt+f2 i'm learing stuff
[00:35] <Tweek900> i might get good at this :)
[00:35] <AngryKoala> ^^
[00:35] <BluesKaj> you can also find it in the kmenu/internet
[00:35] <Tweek900> heck yeah
[00:36] <BluesKaj> right click and choose add to panel
[00:36] <Tweek900> whats the panel?
[00:37] <Tweek900> and it :)
[00:37] <BluesKaj> right click on the desktop choose add panel
[00:37] <Tweek900> awww something broke lol
[00:37] <Tweek900> gotta have some flash addon
[00:38] <Tweek900> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[00:38] <Tweek900> what version would i want?
[00:38] <AngryKoala> isnt there one in apt?
[00:38] <Tweek900> nvm got it
[00:41] <Tweek900> ok i just downloaded install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[00:41] <Tweek900> any clue how to use it?
[00:41] <AngryKoala> double click
[00:41] <Tweek900> it said i need something to open it with
[00:42] <AngryKoala> errrrr
[00:42] <Tweek900> any clue on where the location is of it when i downloaded it with firefox?
[00:42] <AngryKoala>  /home/yourname/downloads?
[00:44] <Tweek900> i'm running it off the live cd...
[00:44] <Tweek900> so i have no name =\
[00:45] <Tweek900> found it]
[00:49] <sunnydrake> solved by default my home/user folder is set not to enter flag .. moved Music to home and remake links..
[01:15] <jimmy51_home> hello, i just connected a second monitor to my 8800GT
[01:16] <jimmy51_home> what do i do to get it to work?
[01:17] <jimmy51_home> i see options for Separate X Screen or TwinView
[01:39] <St0n3-C0l> anyone uses beta here? with intel video?
[01:52] <Tweek900> hey
[01:52] <AngryKoala> back again eh
[01:52] <Tweek900> sorry about that the laptop messed up and made me log back in but i didn't know the login name and password
[01:52] <Tweek900> then i found this way to install ubuntu without deleting windows
[01:52] <AngryKoala> so you installed it?
[01:52] <Tweek900> i installed it into windows
[01:53] <Tweek900> so i still have windows
[01:53] <AngryKoala> so its not dual booted
[01:53] <Tweek900> yeah its a dual boot
[01:53] <AngryKoala> ah, k
[01:53] <Tweek900> :)
[01:53] <Tweek900> now i gotta redownload everything :(
[01:54] <AngryKoala> whats your dl speed
[01:54] <Tweek900> slow lol
[01:54] <Tweek900> i'm on satelite internet
[01:54] <AngryKoala> =/
[01:54] <Tweek900> is there a way to make it not ask for my password everytime
[01:54] <Tweek900> but it still ask on login
[01:55] <AngryKoala> yes, but do you want to?
[01:55] <Tweek900> i just want the password for when i log in
[01:55] <Tweek900> i always shut my computer off so :P
[01:55] <AngryKoala> when you goto the install utilikty you mean?
[01:55] <Tweek900> yeah
[01:56] <AngryKoala> i dunno, i dont run kubuntu =p
[01:56] <Tweek900> lol
[01:56] <Tweek900> might you have our convo from earlier
[01:56] <Tweek900> i dont know what the command was to get java :P
[01:57] <AngryKoala> sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin
[01:57] <Tweek900> thanks :)
[01:57] <AngryKoala> np
[01:57] <Tweek900> i thought it was just wasn't sure
[01:57] <Tweek900> i'll get this down :)
[01:58] <Tweek900> ewwww 30 mins :(
[01:58] <Tweek900> i hate this
[01:58] <AngryKoala> lol
[01:58] <AngryKoala> java is big
[01:59] <Tweek900> is there a way to cancle it
[01:59] <Tweek900> and restart it
[01:59] <AngryKoala> ctrl c
[02:00] <Tweek900> thanks
[02:00] <Tweek900> well that didn't help much :(
[02:00] <Tweek900> i tried
[02:01] <AngryKoala> it wouldnt cancel it?
[02:01] <Tweek900> it cancled
[02:01] <Tweek900> but didn't start up any faster lol
[02:01] <Tweek900> was hoping to get a faster dl speed
[02:06] <Tweek900> what is this plasma dashboard?
[02:12] <AngryKoala> your desktop
[02:12] <Tweek900> weird
[02:12] <Tweek900> so what do you use if you dont use ubuntu
[02:15] <AngryKoala> archlinux
[02:16] <Tweek900> hm whats that lol
[02:16] <AngryKoala> its a linux distro that is a bit more complex to set up
[02:16] <Tweek900> yuck lol
[02:16] <AngryKoala> lol
[02:16] <AngryKoala> i used ubuntu around this time last year
[02:16] <AngryKoala> then i kinda wanted to explore more
[02:17] <AngryKoala> so i tried arch and it was a pain in the butt for a couple days, but now i always use it
[02:17] <Tweek900> oh makes sence
[02:17] <AngryKoala> time to go buy some rice wine, good luck
[02:17] <Tweek900> idk i've always used windows so this is totaly new to me
[02:17] <Tweek900> alright take it easy
[02:18] <Tweek900> any last min tips?
[02:21] <AngryKoala> eh trip cancelled
[02:21] <Tweek900> AWWW
[02:22] <Tweek900> sry
[02:24] <AngryKoala> np, just keep experimenting and if you run into an error or roadblock dont give up, cuz just about everything can be solved manually or with a patch
[02:24] <Tweek900> alright
[02:24] <Tweek900> trying to get runescape to work then i'm going to try for teamspeak
[02:24] <Tweek900> the java is loading now so :)
[02:24] <AngryKoala> awesome
[02:26] <jimmy51_home> hello, i just enabled a second monitor as a "Separate X Screen".  When I restarted X, i could move the mouse over to the new screen but it was black and there wasn't anything to click.
[02:27] <jimmy51_home> on my main screen the startbar disappeared
[02:27] <jimmy51_home> the idea of Separate X Screen intrigued me, but it didn't seem to be working properly
[02:27] <Tweek900> hm sounds like you need a pro lol not me :P
[02:27] <jimmy51_home> it's now set up as TwinView and works well, but i'm curious as to what i should have done
[02:27] <jimmy51_home> hehe
[02:29] <Tweek900> AngryKoala: any ideal on why my wireless card wouldn't be working?
[02:30] <AngryKoala> Tweek900 because many manufacturers do not make wifi drivers for linux
[02:30] <Tweek900> is there a way to find out?
[02:31] <AngryKoala> in terminal type:  lspci | grep Net
[02:31] <AngryKoala> gimme the output
[02:32] <Tweek900> i cant
[02:32] <Tweek900> i'm downloading someting
[02:32] <AngryKoala> open a new terminal
[02:33] <Tweek900> whats the line?
[02:34] <AngryKoala> ?
[02:34] <Tweek900> after lspci
[02:34] <AngryKoala> pipe
[02:34] <AngryKoala> shift \
[02:34] <Tweek900> pipe?
[02:34] <Tweek900> oh ok
[02:34] <AngryKoala> ^^
[02:35] <Tweek900> 00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
[02:35] <Tweek900> i'm glad someone knows all these random commands
[02:35] <AngryKoala> lspci | grep net
[02:36] <Tweek900> thats what i did
[02:36] <Tweek900> thats what it gave me
[02:36] <AngryKoala> it doesnt seem to see your card, is it usb?
[02:36] <Tweek900> nope its in the computer
[02:37] <Tweek900> on the hardware divers it brought up drivers for broadcom b43 wireless driver and broadcom sta wireless driver
[02:37] <AngryKoala> ah
[02:38] <AngryKoala> do you have drivers for it in windows
[02:38] <Tweek900> but they didn't seem to help much
[02:38] <Tweek900> idk it was messing up
[02:38] <Tweek900> one of the big reasons i was leaving vista
[02:38] <Tweek900> it worked some times and not others
[02:38] <Tweek900> lol
[02:40] <AngryKoala> download ndiswrapper if its available in apt-get
[02:41] <Tweek900> you cant download 2 things at once?
[02:41] <AngryKoala> you cant, how much time is the other one going to day
[02:41] <AngryKoala> take*
[02:41] <Tweek900> its reading database and stuff
[02:41] <Tweek900> unpacking so on
[02:41] <Tweek900> its downloaded now
[02:43] <Tweek900> cant find package
[02:43] <AngryKoala> do apt-get ndis then hit tab
[02:43] <Tweek900> ok it gave me a list
[02:43] <AngryKoala> right
[02:43] <AngryKoala> anything like ndiswrapper
[02:44] <Tweek900> ndiswrapper-common
[02:44] <AngryKoala> dl that
[02:44] <Tweek900> alright
[02:44] <Tweek900> done
[02:44] <Tweek900> what was that for?
[02:45] <AngryKoala> it loads windows drivers in linux for wifi
[02:45] <Tweek900> alright
[02:45] <Tweek900> its still not on :(
[02:47] <AngryKoala> you have to use the utility to load the windows drivers you have
[02:47] <Tweek900> hold on i have the wlan but its not connected to anything
[02:47] <Tweek900> how do i connect with it?
[02:48] <AngryKoala> connect to other networks?
[02:48] <Tweek900> doesn't say that =\
[02:48] <AngryKoala> in terminal type iwconfig
[02:49] <Tweek900> ok
[02:49] <Tweek900> now what?
[02:50] <Tweek900> it really doesn't tell me much =\
[02:50] <Tweek900> IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:""
[02:50] <Tweek900>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.417 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[02:50] <Tweek900>           Tx-Power=20 dBm
[02:50] <Tweek900>           Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr=2352 B
[02:50] <Tweek900>           Power Management:off
[02:50] <FloodBotK2> Tweek900: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:50] <Tweek900>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[02:50] <Tweek900> ops
[02:50] <Tweek900> lol
[02:51] <AngryKoala> lol
[02:51] <AngryKoala> that means you do have wifi
[02:51] <Tweek900> how do i connect?
[02:52] <Tweek900> lol you probably hate me by now :P
[02:52] <Tweek900> but i <3 you :P
[02:52] <AngryKoala> dont worry lol i had the same problems
[02:52] <Tweek900> :) atleast i dont feel totaly dumb then
[02:53] <Tweek900> any clue on how to connect though?
[02:54] <AngryKoala> hmm
[02:54] <AngryKoala> i dunno what network utility you are using
[02:55] <Tweek900> neither do i lol
[02:55] <AngryKoala> probably knetworkmanager, so if you click on it is there a "enable wireless" thing
[02:55] <Tweek900> yeah its enabled
[02:55] <AngryKoala> and theres no "connect to other network" button?
[02:56] <Tweek900> nope
[02:56] <Tweek900> just says disconnected
[02:56] <Tweek900> hold on i think i got it
[02:57] <Tweek900> what is the kde wallet?
[02:57] <AngryKoala> it stores passwords and info
[02:58] <Tweek900> so i dont need it lol
[02:58] <Tweek900> alright that seems to be connecting now :)
[02:58] <AngryKoala> awesome
[03:00] <AngryKoala> mmk time to go, have fun
[03:00] <Tweek900> ok thats weird my connection thing in the bottom corner left
[03:01] <Tweek900> anyone able to help me?
[03:06] <Tweek900> can anyone in here help me?
[03:23] <webbb82> is there A EASY way to install the raptor menu
[03:23] <Tweek900> i need help =\
[03:24] <webbb82> im having prob compiling the source
[03:27] <webbb82> ccan anyone please take a look at this and see if they can figure out what went wrong  http://pastebin.com/m153ada29
[03:37] <jimmy51_home> a box asking for my password just popped up
[03:37] <jimmy51_home> it's trying to run:  /usr/share/apport/apport-qt
[03:37] <jimmy51_home> is that safe to do?
[03:42] <wister> l
[03:43] <webbb82> can someone take a look and see what im missing http://pastebin.com/m57cfe2b8
[03:43] <omega15> rgh
[03:45] <ubox> webbb82 try removing NepomukAddOntologyClasses from CMakeLists.txt
[03:45] <ubox> i have had problems with them before, people forget things or add the wrong things
[03:45] <webbb82> u think?
[03:46] <ubox> worth a shot. cp CMakeLists.txt CMakeLists.txt.bak first
[03:46] <ubox> in case you want it back
[03:48] <nameiner> how can I connect to wifi from the shell?
[04:17] <Kage_Jittai> how do I install flash for konq
[04:18] <ArkoldThos> Kage_Jittai, download the flash plugin and then select the folder where it is on Konqueror plugins options
[04:21] <Kage_Jittai> ArkoldThos: and where is konq
[04:22] <Kage_Jittai> nvm
[04:22] <ArkoldThos> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Plugins
[04:27] <Kage_Jittai> ArkoldThos: got it :)
[04:36] <horn> so much people here
[04:41] <jacg> ji
[04:46] <ubox> does anyone use kopete?
[04:47] <ubox> i can't seem to use webchat with msn
[04:47] <ubox> there is no option for it
[04:49] <russlar> ubox: it's listed as WLM
[04:49] <ubox> well i am using msn with kopete, but it is supposed to have webcam support which i cannot find
[04:50] <russlar> oh, that
[04:50] <russlar> i have no idea
[04:50] <russlar> no webcam
[04:50] <ubox> ok, thanks though
[04:50] <ubox> :)
[06:00] <terminux> hola que tal?
[06:01] <terminux> alguno de ustedes en este momento esta usando nessus?
[07:08] <noaXess> good morning
[07:10] <matt____> i am needing help with the panel in my gui, kids got to it today while i was at work and now i can't see the applications i'm running on it and the widgets take up the whole panel.
[07:10] <noaXess> how can i check a mounted fs on errors? i just whant see, whats wrong, in the moment ned no repair..
[07:11] <matt____> i've went into the panel settings etc but the system try widget won't resize, i can move it from left to right but not make it smaller
[07:11] <AngryKoala> delete some of the widgets then re-add the ones you need
[07:12] <AngryKoala> or delete the whole panel and just add the menu, tasks, and clock
[07:12] <matt____> done both :\
[07:12] <AngryKoala> if you add a new panel it shouldnt have anything on it
[07:12] <matyd> yeah, when i readded the widgets though it has done the same thing
[07:13] <AngryKoala> what widgets
[07:13] <matyd> i've actually just fixed my problem
[07:14] <matyd> sorry for your time
[07:14] <AngryKoala> np
[07:14] <matyd> i had to add the task manager widget
[07:14]  * matyd is a newb
[07:14] <matyd> ;P
[07:14] <AngryKoala> lol
[07:14] <matyd> lol
[07:25] <Sahkolihaa> Hm, seems I'm getting this problem when shutting my system down: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3106884.0
[07:26] <Sahkolihaa> Black screen with my mouse pointer active, but the system doesn't actually shut down.
[07:26] <Sahkolihaa> It's odd since restarting seems to work fine.
[07:31] <AngryKoala> what do you do when you shutdown using sudo shutdown -h 0
[07:31] <Sahkolihaa> Not tried that yet, I'm only a basic user.
[07:32] <Sahkolihaa> Just figured out how to access the syslog
[07:33] <Sahkolihaa> Hm, I don't see anything in here related to shutting it down.
[07:36] <Sahkolihaa> I'll just have to try ctrl+alt+v and shut down with verbose mode to see what's going on.
[07:36] <Sahkolihaa> When I do shut it down next time that is.
[07:36] <noaXess> can anybody help me in this output of fsck.ext3 -nfv /dev/sda1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/297320/
[07:37] <noaXess> has ma hd hardware problem or just fs problems?
[07:47] <Sahkolihaa> Came across a fix for apparent kdm problems with shutting down.
[07:47] <Sahkolihaa> Adding TerminateServer=true to kdmrc under [X-:*-Core] - hopefully it works when I go out later.
[08:14] <Sahkolihaa> Hm, so Compiz is what causes my taskbar notifications to become unclickable.
[08:16] <ani> hi all
[08:16] <AngryKoala> hello
[08:17] <ani> whre u form
[08:17] <AngryKoala> california
[08:17] <ani>  me india..
[08:17] <AngryKoala> cool
[08:18] <ani>  i am new in Irc
[08:18] <AngryKoala> irc is a strange but fun place
[08:19] <ani> look like...
[08:19] <jussi01> !ot
[08:19] <ani> i am using kbuntu now..
[08:20] <ani> how to share files using kbuntu
[08:20] <ani> ?
[08:20] <ani> sorry Using IRC
[08:20] <jussi01> which client?
[08:21] <ani> wait let me check..
[08:22] <ani> humm but i can't find ant p2p options
[08:23] <freetime> hi , i have a problem when i do /etc/init.d/networck restart i get th no mount to host
[08:23] <freetime> how to slove , can somebody help ?
[08:24] <ani> what happend?
[08:25] <ani> tru sudo /etc/init.d/network strat
[08:25] <ani> to start
[08:26] <ani> and use sudo /etc/init.d/network stop
[08:26] <ani> to stop..
[08:28] <ani> my problem is i am unable to configure my saa7134 tv card
[08:39] <Balsaqio> is kubuntu as fast as xubuntu?
[09:04] <magatz> Balsaqio: depends on your HW configuration
[09:16] <r00t_ninja> can i stop dolphin from showing backup files?
[09:17] <r00t_ninja> eg filename~
[09:45] <Tweek900> i need help
[09:47] <Tweek900> is anyone in here?
[09:49] <Bou> Tweek900: don't ask to ask
[09:49] <Bou> just ask your question, if someone can help, he/she will
[09:49] <Tweek900> =\ sry
[09:50] <Bou> don't be sorry, just ask :p
[09:50] <Tweek900> well i'm trying to get teamspeak to work but i get a error when i open it that says it couldn't load 'padsp'
[09:50] <Tweek900> unsure what to do
[09:52] <Bou> try in a console:   padsp teamspeak
[09:53] <Tweek900> just type that?
[09:53] <Bou> yes
[09:53] <Tweek900> and console how do i pull that up?
[09:54] <Tweek900> i'm new to linux lol
[09:54] <Bou> alt+f2 then type   konsole
[09:54] <Bou> and enter
[09:54] <Bou> it should open up a console
[09:54] <Tweek900> ok
[09:54] <Tweek900> got a fatal error =\
[09:54] <Bou> ^^
[09:55] <Bou> paste the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:55] <Tweek900> it says something about the application run command interface(krunner) crashed and caused the signal11(sigsegv)
[09:55] <Bou> oops
[09:55] <Bou> did you get a console?
[09:55] <Bou> or it crashed before you get it?
[09:56] <Tweek900> crashed before
[09:56] <Bou> ok
[09:56] <Tweek900> and do you need the link to that?
[09:56] <Tweek900> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/297344/
[09:56] <Bou> yes but can't do anything of this
[09:56] <Bou> go to the K menu
[09:56] <Bou> and launch a Konsole from there
[09:57] <Tweek900> alright
[09:57] <tim> can anyone give me advice on how to install tarball files on ubuntu
[09:57] <Bou> (the crash you had is a crash from the launcher apparently, the one that is suppoed to pop-up after alt+f2: KRunner)
[09:57] <Tweek900> the program padsp is not installed
[09:57] <Bou> Tweek900: sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-utils   (in the console)
[09:58] <tsimpson> try aoss rather than padsp
[09:58] <Tweek900> ok
[09:58] <tsimpson> we don't use pilsoaudio
[09:58] <Tweek900> see thats what a site said but idk how to change it to aoss
[09:58] <tsimpson> *pulseaudio
[09:58] <Bou> tsimpson: we= ?
[09:58] <Tweek900> thats what i'm wodnering lol
[09:58] <tsimpson> we as in Kubuntu
[09:58] <Tweek900> he r work for teamspeak lol
[09:58] <Tweek900> oh lol
[09:58] <Tweek900> ok so how do i change teamspeak to launch to aoss
[09:59] <tsimpson> pulseaudio is a good way to break sound
[09:59] <Bou> oh right
[09:59] <tsimpson> other than that, it's useless
[09:59] <Tweek900> lol
[09:59] <Bou> i forgot that, my mistake.
[10:00] <Bou> how would you launch it with aoss then?   aoss teamspeak  ?
[10:01] <tsimpson> yep
[10:01] <tsimpson> it's just a wrapper that uses ALSA rather than OSS
[10:01] <Bou> i remember this now..
[10:03] <eeos> hi have a serious problem .... updated to 432. I can log in but I cannot use the keyboard .... that is to digit any one key I have to press the key for at least 4 secs. Unusable. I can use the mouse though. I had to reboot and start gnome.
[10:03] <eeos> anyone who cna help?
[10:04] <Tweek900> ok i'm back
[10:04] <Tweek900> i hate my internet lol
[10:04] <Tweek900> anyways tsimpson how do i edit my launcher link?
[10:04] <Tweek900> if you already said i missed it :( and i'm sorry
[10:05] <tsimpson> if you launch it from the Kmenu, you can right click the launcher icon and choose "Menu Editor"
[10:05] <tsimpson> you can change it from there
[10:05] <Tweek900> the kmenu?
[10:06] <tsimpson> the "K" with a in the bottom left
[10:06] <tsimpson> where you start programs from
[10:06] <Tweek900> omg i think i broke teamspeak lol
[10:06] <Tweek900> its not in that menu anymore
[10:07] <Tweek900> ok and i just removed my task bar at the bottom lol
[10:09] <Tweek900> =\
[10:09] <Tweek900> any help on where to find the teamspeak? and any help on the task bar? lol
[10:10] <Bou> Tweek900: an you right-click and "Add panel" ?
[10:10] <Tweek900> that adds a new one to the top
[10:10] <Tweek900> but its not a task bar
[10:11] <Bou> you mean you still ave the panel bottom, and just missing the task bar inside the bottom panel?
[10:11] <Tweek900> ok i got the taskbar
[10:11] <Tweek900> yeah
[10:11] <Tweek900> idk how to get the task bar at the bottom again
[10:11] <Tweek900> i still have the bottom pannel
[10:11] <Bou> click cashew, add widgets
[10:11] <Tweek900> panel
[10:12] <Bou> (the cashew inside the panel, on the right)
[10:12] <Tweek900> ok i got it
[10:12] <Tweek900> can i re organise things?
[10:12] <Bou> yes
[10:12] <Tweek900> ok got it :)
[10:12] <Tweek900> yay
[10:12] <Bou> if cashew is clicked, you can drag the elements in the panel
[10:12] <Bou> and also resize it, move it to another screen edge..
[10:13] <Tweek900> ok now any clue on how to locate teamspeak so i can edit the launcher link
[10:13] <Tweek900> this is great :) i'm learning thanks a ton :)
[10:13] <Tweek900> teamspeak vanished from my kmenu
[10:15] <Bou> huh
[10:15] <Bou> in the kmenu, type teamspeak in the search bar to see if it finds it
[10:16] <Tweek900> it has a thing named teamspeak but the icon is a ? instead of the teamspeak icon
[10:16] <Bou> try
[10:16] <Tweek900> i was trying to edit it earlier
[10:16] <Tweek900> nothing comes up
[10:17] <Tweek900> but it shows up at the bottom in the task bar
[10:18] <Tweek900> ok weird out of no where it opened
[10:19] <Tweek900> but if it was from what i clicked in the kmenu it took forever and thats not cool
[10:21] <Tweek900> ok i have a shell script that will run it
[10:21] <Tweek900> is there any way to make a icon that will run it
[10:21] <orient2000> anybody know how to run compitz and turn it off back?
[10:25] <Tweek900> Bou: i have a shell script that will run it, is there any way to get a icon?
[10:26] <Bou> Tweek900: what happens if you drag this script to the desktop for example?
[10:27] <Tweek900> ok
[10:27] <Tweek900> it will run there
[10:27] <Tweek900> not pretty but oh well lol
[10:27] <Tweek900> the icon is fail
[10:27] <Bou> you can edit it
[10:27] <Bou> but it will change the icon for all the files of the same type i'm afraid
[10:27] <Bou> hum
[10:31] <Tweek900> wow i hate my internet
[10:31] <Tweek900> why does teamspeak look like crap in ubuntu? lol
[10:34] <Bou> Tweek900: was the meu entry working for teamspeak?
[10:34] <Bou> *menu
[10:35] <Tweek900> everything seems to be working trying to get in my server to see if i can talk
[10:38] <Tweek900> no sound
[10:39] <Tweek900> Bou:  and ideals?
[10:47] <Tweek900> i think i got it :)
[10:47] <Tweek900> teamspeak is really buggy on here though
[10:52] <Tweek900> vistakiller1: ? hm
[10:52] <vistakiller1> yes there and no 2 :P
[10:53] <Tweek900> how did you kill vista? lol
[10:53] <vistakiller1> is very easy to kill a windows system
[10:53] <vistakiller1> you have only to unistall it
[10:54] <Tweek900> oh... so you didn't kill it
[10:54] <Tweek900> you just deleted it
[10:54] <Tweek900> i killed my vista
[10:54] <Tweek900> i deleted the partition :)
[10:54] <Tweek900> didn't give it the chance to sneak out alive
[10:54] <Tweek900> although i'm all confused by kubuntu
[10:55] <vistakiller1> use ubuntu then
[10:55] <Tweek900> um
[10:55] <Tweek900> whats the differance?
[10:55] <vistakiller1> is more simple
[10:56] <vistakiller1> but kde is more elegance
[10:56] <Tweek900> i was told its just graphics differance
[10:56] <Tweek900> idk i'm getting places i guess
[10:56] <Tweek900> i gotta figure out how to make my wireless card work
[10:56] <Tweek900> teamspeak looks like crap on here
[10:57] <vistakiller1> this the freedom m8
[10:57] <Tweek900> how so
[10:57] <vistakiller1> you have to learn something about your system and your pc
[10:58] <jt_> .
[10:59] <Tweek900> lol
[10:59] <Tweek900> but i hate my laptop :(
[11:03] <Bou> Tweek900: you could try mumble instead of Teamspeak
[11:03] <Tweek900> whats mumble?
[11:03] <ArkoldThos> Tweek900, apt-cache show mumble
[11:04] <Tweek900> whats that do?
[11:04] <Bou> Tweek900: it does the same as Teamspeak AFAIK
[11:04] <Bou> many gamers use it
[11:04] <Tweek900> see everyone i know uses teamspeak
[11:05] <Tweek900> whats the apt-cache show mumble do?
[11:05] <Bou> give you a description
[11:05] <ArkoldThos> it shows the information about the package
[11:05] <Bou> you can type it, there is no risk
[11:05] <Tweek900> alright
[11:06] <Tweek900> hm
[11:06] <ArkoldThos> :>
[11:06] <Tweek900> i'll look into it
[11:06] <Tweek900> main problem is everyone i know uses teamspeak lol
[11:06] <Tweek900> any other good problems?
[11:07] <Bou> but it connects to mumble server not teamspeak server, yes that can be a problem :)
[11:07] <Bou> good probems?
[11:07] <Tweek900> good programs lol
[11:07] <Tweek900> its been a long day
[11:08] <ArkoldThos> why you just don't use teamspeak app? i mean, you don't use an app to see it and say: is beautiful OMG
[11:08] <ArkoldThos> if looks bad, deal with it :p
[11:08] <Tweek900> i know i plan on dealing with it lol
[11:09] <Tweek900> i gotta figure out my wireless card...
[11:09] <Tweek900> and i think my graphics might need updated as well idk
[11:10] <Bou> Tweek900: nvidia card?
[11:10] <Tweek900> yeah
[11:10] <Tweek900> idk what one but yeah its nvidia
[11:11] <Tweek900> i just ran the bug fix and all those updates
[11:11] <Tweek900> had like 188 of them
[11:11] <Tweek900> its almost done
[11:11] <Bou> Tweek900: check for Hardware Drivers in the K menu
[11:12] <Bou> it will tell you if there is an up to date driver for your card, and help you to install it if necessary
[11:12] <Tweek900> no there not lol
[11:12] <Tweek900> i'll download that in a min
[11:12] <Tweek900> any ideals on my wireless card?
[11:13] <Tweek900> its not on that list
[11:15] <Bou> wifi is not working out of the box?
[11:15] <Tweek900> hm its not out of the box... but no wifi isn't working
[11:16] <Bou> i've never installed drivers for wireless card under Linux (maybe was lucky)
[11:16] <Tweek900> =\
[11:16] <Bou> what is not working?
[11:16] <Tweek900> nope
[11:16] <Tweek900> it worked in windows
[11:17] <Bou> what is not working?
[11:17] <Bou> can you detect the wifi networks around you?
[11:17] <Tweek900> nope
[11:17] <Tweek900> theres one about 2ft from my laptop
[11:18] <Tweek900> but my laptop doesn't show a wireless card or anything
[11:18] <Tweek900> like no way to use it
[11:18] <Tweek900> idk if it even has it picked up
[11:18] <Bou> old laptop?
[11:18] <Tweek900> a couple of years
[11:18] <Tweek900> hey hold on i need to restart to updated all this stuff
[11:18] <Tweek900> so i'll brb
[11:19] <Bou> Tweek900: i'm leaving for lunch
[11:19] <Bou> can't help much on wifi anyway
[11:19] <Bou> but maybe others will help you now or later on
[11:21] <Tweek900> thats cool
[11:21] <Tweek900> it loads everything i had open back up
[11:22] <Tweek900> aww bou left
[11:23] <Tweek900> ArkoldThos are you still there?
[11:26] <ArkoldThos> yup sorry
[11:26] <ArkoldThos> what do you need :P?
[11:27] <ArkoldThos> highlight me when you write, seeing family guy :p
[11:27] <leandry> hi
[11:27] <Tweek900> oh alright
[11:27] <Tweek900> um i cant figure out this wifi card. it doesn't work :(
[11:28] <Tweek900> ArkoldThos:
[11:28] <ArkoldThos> hmm... what card do you got Tweek900?
[11:28] <Tweek900> idk =\
[11:29] <Tweek900> i think its like broadcom or something
[11:29] <Tweek900> not sure
[11:29] <ArkoldThos> do lspci
[11:29] <Tweek900> not found
[11:30] <Tweek900> sudo first?
[11:30] <ArkoldThos> no
[11:30] <ArkoldThos> just "lspci"
[11:30] <Tweek900> nothing either way
[11:30] <Tweek900> says command not found
[11:31] <ArkoldThos> O.o should work
[11:31] <Tweek900> =\
[11:31] <Tweek900> linux hates me
[11:31] <ArkoldThos> says: lspci: command not found?
[11:32] <ArkoldThos> it should be there
[11:32] <Tweek900> bash: lspic: command not found
[11:33] <ArkoldThos> you wrote lspic
[11:33] <ArkoldThos> :po
[11:33] <Tweek900> wow
[11:33] <Tweek900> its 6:33am give me a break lol
[11:34] <ArkoldThos> here 5.33 am :p
[11:34] <Tweek900> whats the thing to paste in here?
[11:35] <ArkoldThos> paste all on pastebin
[11:35] <Tweek900> wheres pastebin?
[11:36] <Tweek900> got it
[11:36] <Tweek900> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/297369/
[11:37] <ArkoldThos> sec
[11:38] <Tweek900> ok
[11:38] <ArkoldThos> i hate to say this but you got bad look
[11:38] <ArkoldThos> luck*
[11:38] <ArkoldThos> it doesn't appear it
[11:38] <ArkoldThos> there*
[11:38] <FloodBotK2> ArkoldThos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:38] <ArkoldThos> or it is an usb wifi card?
[11:38] <Tweek900> i know =\
[11:39] <Tweek900> i hate my luck
[11:39] <Tweek900> nope its built in
[11:39] <ArkoldThos> okay then is bad luck
[11:39] <Tweek900> i have my computer modle and stuff but i cant find anything on the wifi card
[11:41] <Tweek900> i'm sure its a broadcom card
[11:42] <ArkoldThos> if it doesn't appear there i'm out of ideas :(
[11:43] <Tweek900> =\
[11:45] <Tweek900> what happens if i use the ndis thing for the drivers?
[11:46] <Urrghs> hi;  could anyone help me with probably quite a stupid question?
[11:46] <Urrghs> concerning kubuntu installation
[11:46] <Tweek900> whats the question maybe i can help
[11:46] <Tweek900> i'm still new though =\
[11:47] <Urrghs> at the point where I can choose which partition to install in
[11:47] <ArkoldThos> when it ask to :o go advanced
[11:47] <ArkoldThos> Tweek900, ndiswrapper?
[11:47] <Tweek900> yeah
[11:47] <ArkoldThos> well, if it doesn't appear there is that the system doesn't recognize the card
[11:48] <Tweek900> a site said something about that and using the compaq website to download the drivers
[11:48] <Tweek900> it was working on here earlier when i ran ubuntu as a windows file
[11:48] <Urrghs> I am not sure which is the better way.    either to use the automatic modus, where I can  choose the size of the partition for Kubuntu  or the manual partition manager
[11:49] <ArkoldThos> go for the easy way
[11:49] <Tweek900> urrghs what are you wanting to do?
[11:50] <Tweek900> if your on a computer with a partition that has your restore you might want to save that just incase
[11:50] <Urrghs> he seems to do the right thing there (cutting the partition I wanted to cut anyway);  will he still create 3 partition for itself  on the free space?  (system, swap, home  etc)
[11:50] <ArkoldThos> the partition manager of the installation will ask if you want to use the entire drive, or if you want to resize the current partition and install it there
[11:51] <ArkoldThos> Urrghs, nope, kubuntu doesn't do all the partitions as other distributions, just the ext3 and swap
[11:52] <Urrghs> well; actually   there are 3 options
[11:52] <Urrghs> ahhhh
[11:53] <ArkoldThos> well, go advanced
[11:53] <Tweek900> ArkoldThos:  would i want the 32bit driver or 64 bit
[11:53] <Urrghs> thats what I thought
[11:53] <ArkoldThos> Tweek900, what ubuntu did you install, 32 or 64?
[11:54] <Tweek900> 64 i'm sure lol
[11:54] <Tweek900> its 7am now i'm not thinking]
[11:54] <Tweek900> sry for asking probably the stupidest question of the night lol
[11:55] <Urrghs> what size would you recommend for the system?
[11:55] <Urrghs> and it should be ext3 right?
[11:56] <Tweek900> i used ext4
[11:56] <Tweek900> and the main parition i used was 20gig
[11:56] <Tweek900> 2 gig for your swap
[11:56] <Tweek900> and rest for /data
[11:56] <ArkoldThos> well, using ext3 or ext4 haves good and bad things, choose what suits better to you, the default on karmic is ext4
[11:57] <Urrghs> so;  you used only two partitions?
[11:57] <Tweek900> ArkoldThos:  i downloaded the drivers but no clue how to install them =\
[11:57] <ArkoldThos> Tweek900, in what format they are?
[11:58] <Tweek900> idk
[11:58] <Tweek900> how do you tell?
[11:58] <Tweek900> http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[11:58] <Tweek900> got them from there =\
[11:59] <ArkoldThos> Urrghs, other distributions do more partitions like /boot /home /var /usr /tmp, plus the swap one
[11:59] <ArkoldThos> ubuntu by default just does / and swap
[11:59] <Urrghs> on my old systems I had 3 partitions.....swap, system, and data......now I think  that I do not need an own data partition since there are FAT32 partitions on the drive that I can use anyway, can't I?
[11:59] <Urrghs> yes, but now I do it manually
[11:59] <Urrghs> the partitioning, I mean
[12:00] <ArkoldThos> hehe okay :p
[12:00] <Urrghs> the other way would be to choose the option: "install kubuntu parallaly to other system"
[12:00] <Urrghs> the first one....
[12:01] <Urrghs> in the menu
[12:01] <Tweek900> ArkoldThos:  did you happen to take a look at the file i downloaded?
[12:01] <Urrghs> is it right that then he would not influence the other partitions than the one that is needed to be resized?
[12:02] <ArkoldThos> Tweek900, show the link
[12:02] <Tweek900> http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[12:02] <ArkoldThos> Urrghs, nope, it will not
[12:02] <ArkoldThos> it will resize current partitions and make space to the new ones
[12:03] <ArkoldThos> Tweek900, http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[12:03] <Urrghs> then I will try that one......so, why does kubuntu only use two partitions then?  why did that change?
[12:03] <ArkoldThos> the readme is very explicit and doesn't look hard
[12:03] <Tweek900> weird i couldn't get it to open before lol
[12:03] <ArkoldThos> Urrghs, idk make less mess? :o, almost all distributions do in that way now
[12:03] <ArkoldThos> Tweek900, :p
[12:06] <Tweek900> ok i dont understand this build thing
[12:06] <Tweek900> i'm way to new to linux
[12:07] <ArkoldThos> you're compiling smth
[12:07] <Tweek900> ArkoldThos:  you still there?
[12:07] <Tweek900> how though =\
[12:10] <ArkoldThos> Tweek900, how though what :O?
[12:10] <Tweek900> whats the path? like its home then docs
[12:10] <Tweek900> how do type that out? lol
[12:10] <ghostcube> /home/user/Documents
[12:11] <ghostcube> -_-
[12:12] <Tweek900> it says it doesn't exist
[12:12] <ghostcube> user is your username
[12:12] <Tweek900> i know lol
[12:12] <Tweek900> i'm way to new to linux though
[12:12] <ghostcube> double tab inside /home/user
[12:12] <ghostcube> it shows you all you can reach
[12:14] <Tweek900> sure leave it up to the readme file to tell me to type something wrong
[12:14] <Tweek900> f that readme file
[12:14] <Tweek900> thanks ghostcube
[12:15] <ghostcube> np
[12:17] <Tweek900> ok and that readme didn't install the drivers =\
[12:17] <Tweek900> ghostcube:  do you know if theres a problem with using ndiswrapper
[12:18] <ghostcube> for what kind ov device you need ndis ?
[12:18] <Tweek900> wifi
[12:20] <gjgorman> Has kubuntu started to ship a stripped ld.so? Valgrind appears to have stopped working because of this.
[12:22] <drago> hi
[12:22] <Tweek900> hi
[12:23] <Tweek900> i wish my wifi worked :(
[12:28] <Tweek900> anyone i here know about wifi?
[12:28] <ghostcube> Tweek900: lspci  to www.pastie.org
[12:28] <ghostcube> so w know what jind of card
[12:29] <Tweek900> ?
[12:29] <Tweek900> oh
[12:29] <Tweek900> http://www.pastie.org/661848
[12:30] <ghostcube> is this an netbook wit ion chip
[12:30] <ghostcube> ??
[12:30] <Tweek900> ion chip?
[12:30] <Tweek900> its a notbook
[12:30] <Tweek900> compaq
[12:31] <ghostcube> ah ok
[12:31] <drago> smaholi  nswalkom
[12:31] <arcanjo> good morning,friends
[12:32] <Tweek900> so ghostcube do you have any ideal of what i should do
[12:32] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get install wicd
[12:32] <ghostcube> youre card should work inside ubuntu
[12:32] <Tweek900> it hates me
[12:32] <ghostcube> just use another network manager
[12:32] <ghostcube> wicd should work fine for wlan
[12:32] <Tweek900> i ran ubuntu with the windows install thing
[12:33] <Tweek900> and it worked fine
[12:33] <Tweek900> ok thats installed
[12:33] <Tweek900> now what?
[12:33] <ghostcube> just reboot
[12:34] <Tweek900> ok brb
[12:42] <Tweek900> ok i'm back
[12:42] <Tweek900> that was messed up
[12:42] <Tweek900> i have like 3 extra things on the startup that i must have put there when i was doing things i was told to by that readme
[12:42] <Tweek900> ghostcube:  you still there?
[12:43] <ghostcube> yep
[12:43] <Tweek900> ok so i have this new wicd thing
[12:43] <Tweek900> but it is connected with the eithernet cord
[12:43] <ghostcube> wait
[12:43] <Tweek900> ok
[12:43] <ghostcube> you need to change something i show you the webpage for wicd
[12:43] <Tweek900> ok
[12:44] <ghostcube> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
[12:44] <ghostcube> read troubleshooting
[12:44] <Tweek900> ok
[12:44] <ghostcube> check if this the same for you
[12:45] <Tweek900> do you know anything about the bootup menu where theres different virsions of ubuntu?
[12:45] <ghostcube> yes
[12:45] <ghostcube> grub
[12:46] <Tweek900> i have like 2 new ones now
[12:46] <Tweek900> any way to delete them?
[12:46] <Tweek900> and what one should i have? =\
[12:47] <Tweek900> and nope thats not my problem i only have those 2 things
[12:49] <Tweek900> ghostcube: ?
[12:50] <ghostcube> Tweek900: normal to have more than one
[12:50] <ghostcube> if you have new kenrl you will get a new entry
[12:50] <ghostcube> *kernel
[12:50] <ghostcube> the last one is the first entry
[12:50] <ghostcube> and no need to delete them normally
[12:50] <Tweek900> i was entering stuff from a website like linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[12:51] <Tweek900> and now i have like a generic whatever -11 and -14 and -15
[12:51] <Tweek900> those where just added
[12:51] <Tweek900> and the -11 is all that works
[12:53] <Tweek900> so what happens if i use this ndis?
[12:54] <Tweek900> ghostcube:  or Bou
[12:55] <Tweek900> ArkoldThos:  do you know?
[12:57] <Tweek900> what happens if i use this ndis?
[12:59] <Urrghs> where can I find the boot manager where I can set  another OS as default?  (on Kubuntu)?
[13:00] <Tweek900> idk
[13:02] <ghostcube> Tweek900: yeah this another kernel entry
[13:02] <ghostcube> inside the grub menu.list
[13:02] <ghostcube> always created if you bring in new kernels
[13:02] <ghostcube> Urrghs: what boot manager version
[13:02] <Tweek900> can i get rid of them
[13:02] <ghostcube> why ?
[13:02] <ghostcube> you can change the order
[13:02] <Urrghs> I am not sure......it just initiated one
[13:03] <ghostcube> or in systemsettings grub manager
[13:03] <ghostcube> as root delete the ones you dont need
[13:03] <ghostcube> Urrghs: distri version
[13:04] <Tweek900> i dont see the grub manager?
[13:05] <ghostcube> Tweek900: boah ehm in systemsettings search in advanced or so
[13:05] <ghostcube> there is an option to edit the grub entries
[13:05] <ghostcube> not at linux here
[13:05] <Urrghs> I do not see it either
[13:05] <Tweek900> oh
[13:06] <Tweek900> well i cant figure out this ndis thing either :(
[13:08] <ghostcube> what kde version is this for you
[13:08] <ghostcube> ??
[13:08] <ghostcube> 4.3.x
[13:08] <Tweek900> for me?
[13:08] <Tweek900> how do i tell? =\
[13:08] <ghostcube> then change to tree view inside systemsettings
[13:09] <ghostcube> open any kde prog
[13:09] <ghostcube> and look in the about kde
[13:09] <ghostcube> :D
[13:09] <Tweek900> 4.2.2
[13:09] <ghostcube> oh ok
[13:09] <ghostcube> what version of ubuntu is this ?
[13:09] <ghostcube> jaunty ?
[13:09] <Tweek900> idk lol
[13:09] <Tweek900> i just downloaded it last night
[13:10] <ghostcube> ok jaunty
[13:10] <ghostcube> can you post youre /etc/apt/sources.list to www.pastie.org
[13:10] <Tweek900> permissions denied
[13:13] <Tweek900> =\
[13:18] <Tweek900> ghostcube:
[13:28] <Tweek900> screw it i'm going to bed
[13:28] <Tweek900> night all
[13:49] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[14:09] <Sadly> hello
[14:10] <afeijo> are firefox 3.6 beta available yet?
[14:13] <Sadly> I need my ipw2100 works... and pick up my wireless connection... but It doesn't find any conection, neither neibourghood
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Sadly, are you still using network manager ?
[14:23] <Sadly> BluesKaj when i installed Wicd.... ethernet connection failed... and my computer cracked.
[14:24] <Sadly> So i had to re-install Kubuntu 8.04
[14:24] <Sadly> so, i tryed again
[14:24] <BluesKaj> cracked ?
[14:24] <Sadly> and wicd worked... but it doesn't piiiick up any wireless conection
[14:24] <Sadly> neither neighbourghoods
[14:25] <Sadly> BluesKaj... craked... I mean.. (all the screen in black)
[14:25] <BluesKaj> did you disconnect your ethernet and try to find wifi essid in your area ?
[14:26] <Sadly> yes, but It doesn't find any wifi essid in my area... with or without ethernet conected.
[14:27] <BluesKaj> wicd won't find any wifi if ethernet cable is connected
[14:27] <Sadly> ok, i told you it was not connected too.
[14:27] <Sadly> i tried everything :(
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Sadly, why not upgrade to jaunty 9.10
[14:27] <BluesKaj> do a clean install
[14:28] <BluesKaj> err 9.04
[14:28] <Sadly> I did it... I upgrade to 8.10, then 9.04
[14:29] <BluesKaj> 9.10 is being released officially in 10 days or so , then you upgrade from jaunty to the latest kubuntu
[14:29] <Sadly> and networkmanager, and wicd doesn't find anything
[14:29] <Sadly> Yes, so people with another kubuntu aren't alowed to use wireless..
[14:29] <BluesKaj> Sadly, what wifi card again ?
[14:29] <Sadly> to upgrade a kernel it doesn't fix my problem
[14:30] <Sadly> where can i Read the diferecnes Karmic Koala aport..
[14:30] <Sadly> i want to read if they talk about wireless news..
[14:30] <Sadly> my wifi card is ipw2100, Intel.
[14:31] <Sadly> I was talking with some experts here, for 5 days... they made me to do a lot of things... to install a lot of things... to upgrade to another kubuntus
[14:31] <Sadly> but no way..
[14:32] <Sadly> another one tell me.. try to change net configuration of your wireles... ok, but the problem is not in the router..
[14:32] <BluesKaj> Sadly, perhaps you need a driver upgrade,  http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/#downloads
[14:32] <Sadly> it is my ipw2100 doesent SEE any Essid, neither neighbourhoods.
[14:33] <Sadly> bluesKaj, if you help me to do that "driver upgrade" i will do it..
[14:33] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:33] <Sadly> I download that files..
[14:33] <Sadly> but INSTALL or README.. doesnt tell me..
[14:34] <Sadly> or maybe i am stupid and i don't get what they say?
[14:34] <Sadly> YES???
[14:34] <BluesKaj>  ipw2100-1.2.2.tgz
[14:34] <Sadly> well, then, wait, i will plug ethernet cable in my laptop..
[14:34] <BluesKaj> I'll help you
[14:34] <Sadly> excusme 2 seconds.. i will not be late..
[14:34] <BluesKaj> np, take your time
[14:38] <Sadly> i've the files in my Desktop
[14:38] <Sadly> tell me.
[14:38] <Sadly> I am only big EYES reading you
[14:39] <Sadly> BluesKaj: hello?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> ok Sadly
[14:40] <BluesKaj> move the file to /home/yourusername
[14:40] <BluesKaj> always download to /home/user
[14:41] <BluesKaj> user=yourkubuntuusername , do you understand, Sadly ?
[14:41] <Sadly> two files? driver and firmware file?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> firmware file ?
[14:41] <Sadly> yes, i understand... but the 2 files?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> what is the firmware file ?
[14:42] <Sadly> it is named:
[14:43] <Sadly> http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/firmware.php
[14:43] <arcanjo> ipsec?Looking for TXT in reverse map: missing
[14:43] <Sadly> they talk about two files then i downloaded 2...
[14:43] <Sadly> the driver, and one called firmware
[14:43] <arcanjo> whats this?
[14:44] <Sadly> Ok, they are both in /home/myusername..
[14:44] <BluesKaj> Sadly, did someone tell you toinstall that ?
[14:44] <Sadly> no
[14:44] <Sadly> i tried to read it
[14:44] <Sadly> in INSTALL or READ txt
[14:44] <arcanjo> router?our link?
[14:44] <Sadly> ¬¬ arcanjo are you talking with...
[14:45] <arcanjo> anione
[14:45] <arcanjo> everbody ,this ask the question
[14:46] <Sadly> ohm... you need to know what IPSEC means?
[14:46] <Sadly> I've no idea..
[14:46] <arcanjo> vpn(ipsec)protocol
[14:46] <Sadly> BluesKaj: I just have the file in the folder.. no??
[14:46] <Sadly> now??
[14:47] <Sadly> :(
[14:49] <arcanjo> i working vpn
[14:49] <BluesKaj> Sadly, lets just install the driver file first .right click on the file , choose properties , click on the permissions tab , check the executable box, then go back to the general tab , highlight the name of the file , copy and paste that name . Open the terminal .
[14:50] <arcanjo> redoing vpn
[14:50] <BluesKaj> Sadly, copy the name first don't paste it yet
[14:52] <Sadly> BluesKaj: ehmmm are you here?
[14:52] <Sadly> :(
[14:53] <BluesKaj> yes , now in the terminal:  tar zxvf ipw2100-1.2.2.tgz
[14:53] <arcanjo> tar -zxvf
[14:54] <arcanjo> case sensitive
[14:54] <Sadly> ok
[14:54] <BluesKaj> Sadly, yes use the - . forgot , sometimes it works better that way
[14:55] <BluesKaj> ok, now Sadly , you should have a folder named ipw2100-1.2.2
[14:56] <vbgunz> I decided to get in on the action and upgrade kubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and things almost went smoothly. there was some breakage and Amarok refuses to install correctly. Is a fix in site for this soon?
[14:57] <Sadly> BluesKaj: it saidme some problems... i am trying..
[14:57] <arcanjo> do you use update-manager -c -d for upgrade?
[14:58] <arcanjo> a new version karmic for development
[14:58] <arcanjo> a fix bug in comunity ubuntu
[14:58] <arcanjo> unstable version
[14:58] <BluesKaj> arcanjo, he's been trying everything for 5 days to get his wifi working
[14:59] <ubox> i just got here, what's up?
[14:59] <Sadly> BluesKaj: it said that problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/297516/
[14:59] <arcanjo> ndiswrapper is better
[15:00] <ubox> what i meant is what is the problem :) what driver are you trying to get working sadly?
[15:01] <Sadly> this : ipw2100-1.2.0.tgz
[15:01] <BluesKaj> Sadly, don't copy the file to the terminal just copy the filename , from the properties
[15:01] <arcanjo> gunzip "file" our tar -xvf "file"
[15:01] <arcanjo> tar -xvf ipw2100-1.2.0.tgz
[15:02] <arcanjo> our file is corrupt..
[15:02] <vbgunz> the upgrade of amarok from upgrading 9.04 to 9.10 is broken with a lot of dependency issues I believe on libqtscript4* ... is this a global issue or just mine?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> those darn tgz files
[15:02] <Sadly> that tell me error too... ARK tells me error too
[15:03] <arcanjo> this drive is similar with ralink(rt73)
[15:03] <carmelita> Hi, can you please tell me how to optimize kubuntu with kde 4.3?
[15:03] <carmelita> I want it to react faster
[15:03] <carmelita> maybe by disabling eye candy
[15:03] <BluesKaj> Sadly, copy and paste this command from here to the terminal : tar -xvf ipw2100-1.2.0.tgz
[15:04] <Sadly> 1 sec
[15:04] <Sadly> i am triying to download again..
[15:04] <ubox> are you using the latest or the stable version sadly?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> no need to download again
[15:04] <BluesKaj> Sadly,!!
[15:04] <arcanjo> this file is corrupt..
[15:05] <apparle> how to fix this http://paste.ubuntu.com/288786/ I am trying to compile this package http://downloads.sourceforge.net/ponyprog/Pony_Prog2000-2.07c.tar.gz
[15:05] <ubox> sadly, i just tried the stable version and the file opens fine. try that one
[15:05] <ubox> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ipw2100/ipw2100/1.2.0/ipw2100-1.2.0.tgz?use_mirror=softlayer
[15:06] <Sadly> I am trying all...
[15:06] <Sadly> :(
[15:06] <arcanjo> modprob "module"
[15:06] <Sadly> i can compile and descompile everything except that files..
[15:06] <arcanjo> cd /usr/src/linux.kernel
[15:06] <arcanjo> make menuconfig
[15:06] <ubox> and you can't get the archive to open?
[15:06] <arcanjo> make
[15:07] <arcanjo> modules
[15:07] <arcanjo> modules_install
[15:07] <ubox> arcanjo what are on about?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> Sadly, what are you doing ?
[15:07] <arcanjo> for compile modules is more easy
[15:07] <Sadly> via Konsole, and via ARK
[15:08] <BluesKaj> no forget ark
[15:08] <BluesKaj> only terminal
[15:08] <BluesKaj> leave ark alone
[15:09] <apparle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/297528/ This error come after fresh install
[15:10] <Sadly> I got it
[15:11] <arcanjo> key publishes
[15:11] <Sadly> BluesKaj: tell me now
[15:11] <arcanjo> aptitude safe-upgrade
[15:11] <BluesKaj> Sadly,got what ?
[15:12] <arcanjo> verify into /etc/apt/aources.list
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Sadly, did you do :  tar -xvf ipw2100-1.2.0.tgz in the konsole ?
[15:12] <Sadly> i've the new folder, i got decompile it
[15:12] <Sadly> no, with ARK
[15:12] <BluesKaj> what's the folder name
[15:13] <Sadly> the same as the file, without the extention
[15:13] <Sadly> this: intel_ipw2100_110
[15:13] <elvirolo> hi everyone
[15:13] <elvirolo> is the kde network management tool in the plasma widget list ?
[15:13] <elvirolo> i'm using karmic
[15:13] <arcanjo> ark?use tungzip our  unrar our tar
[15:14] <ubox> elvirolo yes
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Sadly, open the file , look  for readme , copy and pastebin the instructions there
[15:15] <Sadly> I got it with ArK.... i will have time to LEARN another things... now i want to have wireless conection , thank u
[15:15] <elvirolo> ubox: well, i can't find it - i was using wicd and i wanted to try the plasma widget but it's not in the list, although the package is installed
[15:15] <ubox> elvirolo nope, wait. i lied. it is added elsewhere. one second
[15:16] <BluesKaj> ok Sadly , you're on your own ...have fun :)
[15:16] <Sadly> BluesKaj:  here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/297537/
[15:16] <Sadly> BluesKaj:  what?? What's happending??
[15:16] <ubox> elvirolo you need to open the kde control module
[15:16] <Sadly> I was talking with arcanjo who said me "use UNRAR... and another things"
[15:17] <Sadly> :(
[15:17] <BluesKaj> Sadly, you don't follow instructions ...it's frustrating for me
[15:17] <Sadly> then i told him... I will learn that another day..
[15:17] <Sadly> I just used paste.ubuntu.. with the README..
[15:17] <Sadly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/297537/
[15:17] <arcanjo> aptitude search rar
[15:18] <Sadly> i was reading you and following YOUR instructions
[15:18] <Sadly> please, help me.. I don't want to disturb you.. I am praying attention on you...  A LOT
[15:18] <ubox> elvirolo run knetworkmanager, i think that is it
[15:18] <apparle> arcanjo: did you reply to me
[15:19] <arcanjo> aptitude search rar
[15:19] <Sadly> :(
[15:19] <arcanjo> modprobe ipw2100 enable=0,1,2
[15:20] <Sadly> I am sorry BluesKaj... i don't want to enherb you... sincerily... i am sorry
[15:20] <elvirolo> ubox: that's it, thanks man !
[15:20] <BluesKaj> ok Sadly , if you want arcanjo to help you ask him, otherwise pls do what I ask.
[15:20] <Sadly> i did it!
[15:20] <ubox> no problem, there is a check box for system tray icon in the other tab
[15:20] <arcanjo> for use module compile and later into cd /usr/src/linux."seu kernel"
[15:20] <arcanjo> make menuconfig
[15:21] <Sadly> i don't know what arcanjo is in our conversation...
[15:21] <BluesKaj> arcanjo, do you want to take overand help Sadly ?
[15:21] <Sadly> oh please....
[15:21] <arcanjo> yes
[15:21] <Sadly> i need ONLY ONE
[15:21] <Sadly> and i choose first Bluekaj... he knows i want yoours
[15:21] <Sadly> :(
[15:22] <BluesKaj> arcanjo, if not then don't interfere with us . ok ?
[15:22] <arcanjo> bla,bla,bla
[15:22] <Pici> I thought the ipw modules were in the kernel that came with Jaunty....
[15:22] <arcanjo> i see you later,nubie
[15:22] <BluesKaj> Pici, he's running 8.04
[15:22] <Pici> BluesKaj: Ah
[15:22] <Sadly> yes, please.... i am not english speaker and i don't know to be gentle in that language to say you THANKS, but i 'm with blueskaj now...
[15:22] <Pici> BluesKaj: I missed that, sorry.
[15:24] <BluesKaj> Pici, we're trying to install an updated driver for his wifi card , and we got sidetracked by conficting instructions from some know it alls .. i made one mistake and the know it all jumped in and gave him different instructions.
[15:25] <Sadly> :( oh god
[15:25] <Sadly> l
[15:25] <slacker_nl> hello
[15:25] <slacker_nl> just read something disturbing
[15:25] <slacker_nl> why is 8.04 not lts?
[15:25] <slacker_nl> i see it becomes EOL this month
[15:26] <BluesKaj> ok Sadly , now do this in the konsole: tar -xvf ipw2100-1.2.0.tgz . if the driver is installed this won't hurt anything
[15:26] <Sadly4> I am sadly
[15:26] <Sadly4> i don't know why... ETHERNET cable gives me problems too..
[15:26] <Sadly> oh!
[15:26] <Sadly> in konsoke
[15:27] <Sadly> In konsole but... in the New Folder?
[15:27] <Sadly> ok, i will do
[15:27] <BluesKaj> Sadly, just copy and paste the command i gave above into the konsole please.
[15:27] <ubox> slacker_nl karmic is great though, why stay with 8.04?
[15:29] <Sadly> BluesKaj: i got this result http://paste.ubuntu.com/297544/
[15:30] <slacker_nl> ubox: because it is LTS?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Sadly, ok good
[15:30] <Sadly> xD
[15:31] <ubox> slacker_nl: you have support here :) i thought you were saying that 8.04 is not lts
[15:31] <BluesKaj> Sadly, you might have a new folder named ipw2100-1.2.0(2) or something
[15:31] <arcanjo> modules compileeeee..
[15:31] <slacker_nl> ubox: yes, it says so
[15:31] <slacker_nl> goto kubuntu.org and slect download
[15:31] <ubox> ok, one sec
[15:32] <slacker_nl> you get 9.04 and 8.04, then 8.04 is supported till oct 2009
[15:32] <Sadly4> yes i have the new folder
[15:32] <Sadly> yes
[15:32] <Sadly> i've the new flder
[15:32] <slacker_nl> ubox: see? Kubuntu 8.04 - Featuring the mature KDE 3 and maintained until October 2009
[15:33] <slacker_nl> while LTS support is till 2011 or something
[15:33] <slacker_nl> for desktops
[15:33] <slacker_nl> servers 2013 iirc
[15:33] <ubox> slacker_nl: yep, i see. where does it say that it is lts though?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> ok Sadly , right click on the old folder and move to trash
[15:33] <slacker_nl> ubox: all ubuntu 8.04 are LTS?
[15:34] <Sadly> do it
[15:34] <Sadly> did it
[15:34] <slacker_nl> ubox: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/ubuntu/release-cycle
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Sadly, ok pastebin the reame from the new file pls
[15:34] <BluesKaj> readme
[15:35] <slacker_nl> ubox: i think it is sad that Kubuntu users don't have LTS support
[15:35] <jemand> Hi from Berlin,
[15:35] <jemand> does anyone have a clue how to get grafik-drivers (ATI)
[15:35] <jemand>  or setup screen-resolution for Karmic Koala?
[15:35] <slacker_nl> kde 3.5 is awesome and it is not possible to upgrade from 8.04 to karmic
[15:35] <ubox> slacker_nl: we may, they are the same execpt for kde
[15:35] <ubox> oh
[15:35] <Sadly> here BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/297551/
[15:36] <BluesKaj> jemand, ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:36] <ubox> jemand: depends on the driver
[15:36] <jemand> THX
[15:37] <carmelita> How do I know in Kubuntu if I'm using the best driver for my graphics card?
[15:38] <tsimpson> what graphics card do you have?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> Sadly, alt+f2 , ipw2100
[15:38] <slacker_nl> ubox: i dont understand: "we may, they are the same execpt for kde" << ubuntu with KDE desktop env is the same as ubuntu with gnome desktop.. just a difference DE
[15:38] <slacker_nl> ubox: like I said, sad sad news
[15:39] <ubox> yes, which is why i'm saying maybe it is an error. you should email the kubuntu team to ask
[15:39] <slacker_nl> ahh, i see
[15:39] <slacker_nl> didn't get that :)
[15:39] <Sadly> it said: Imposible to ejecute... (at spanish)
[15:40] <Sadly> BluesKaj:  it said: Imposible to ejecute... (at spanish)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> ok, Sadly ,open wicd
[15:41] <carmelita> I'm disappointed with kubuntu 9.10 performance
[15:41] <slacker_nl> carmelita: how so?
[15:41] <carmelita> I want to optimize, but I don't find how
[15:41] <BluesKaj> carmelita, it's beta
[15:42] <Sadly> If install wicd..
[15:42] <carmelita> I know is beta, but the release should come in 9 days or so
[15:42] <slacker_nl> carmelita: i think you want to have this discussion in #ubuntu+1
[15:42] <Sadly> buah, it will be with black screen again.. and no Ethernet Connectin
[15:42] <BluesKaj> ok network manger then, Sadly
[15:42] <tsimpson> slacker_nl: it will be possible to upgrade to karmic from 8.04
[15:42] <Sadly> Ok, I am in configuration
[15:42] <slacker_nl> tsimpson: i haven't seen the update of the upgrade-manager* packages
[15:42] <carmelita> sorry, but I have kubuntu not ubuntu
[15:43] <carmelita> slacker_nl: I have kubuntu, not ubuntu
[15:43] <slacker_nl> carmelita: #ubuntu+1 is also for kubuntu ) i know, since I also run karmic with KDE :)
[15:43] <tsimpson> slacker_nl: karmic is not released yet, so there's no need to update anything
[15:44] <slacker_nl> tsimpson: it does explain however the feature request of riddell
[15:44] <slacker_nl> tsimpson: would be nice to see if you can upgrade to beta from hardy
[15:44] <slacker_nl> tsimpson: it needs to be tested not?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> Sadly, do you have an "install" or 'configure" file in the iw2100 folder
[15:44] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:44] <tsimpson> slacker_nl: if you want to help out with that, you should ask in #kubuntu-devel
[15:45] <Sadly> tell me
[15:45] <Sadly4> BluesKaj: yes...  ¿pastebin?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:45] <tsimpson> slacker_nl: they'll let you know how you can test it
[15:45] <ivan__> neko iz rs, mozda?
[15:45] <arcanjo> this is modules,nubie
[15:46] <ubox> jee, i wonder who sadly4 could be lol
[15:46] <Sadly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/297563/
[15:46] <slacker_nl> tsimpson: I see someone has tested it just a second ago ;)
[15:46] <arcanjo> blueskaj,you is nubie?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Sadly4, , which is it ?
[15:46] <slacker_nl> tsimpson: i'll ask anyways
[15:46] <amik> hey guys, what's the best way to edit a bunch of files as a different user? e.g., using kate to edit html files owned by www-data (which doesn't seem to work)
[15:46] <slacker_nl> but I still think kubuntu 8.04 should've been LTS
[15:46] <slacker_nl> like the other buntu flavors
[15:46] <arcanjo> do understand really as compile modules?
[15:47] <Riddell> slacker_nl: hmm?
[15:47] <Sadly4> BluesKaj SADLY4 and SADLY we are the same boy, cuz my ETHERNET cable in the laptop with KUBUNTU The conection "appears and desappear"
[15:47] <arcanjo> tar or knew,i as this question for yoy
[15:47] <arcanjo> you
[15:47] <Sadly> BluesKaj:  here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/297563/
[15:47] <slacker_nl> Riddell: kubuntu .04 is not LTS :(
[15:47] <slacker_nl> 8.04
[15:47] <slacker_nl> supported till oct 2009
[15:47] <slacker_nl> so eol next month
[15:49] <BluesKaj> ok Sadly we have to compile it , in the konsole do : cd ipw2100-1.1.0
[15:49] <Sadly4> ok
[15:49] <Sadly4> did it
[15:50] <BluesKaj> now Sadly4 , try this: ./configure
[15:50] <amik> anyone?
[15:51] <Sadly4> BluesKaj: said: the file or the folder doesn't exits
[15:51] <tsimpson> amik: use "kdesudo -u www-date kdate"
[15:51] <BluesKaj> Sadly4, then do : make
[15:51] <tsimpson> amik: that will launch kate as the "www-data" user
[15:51] <amik> tsimpson: I tried that, and got a bunch of error popups about no write permission to some files in /var/www/something
[15:51] <tsimpson> just make sure to fix my typo :)
[15:52] <Sadly4> ok
[15:52] <tsimpson> amik: did the app open though?
[15:52] <amik> tsimpson: (my files are not there. they are in /srv/www. it's some configuration files of kate)
[15:52] <amik> tsimpson: no, got 2-3 error popups, then a crash report dialog, and no kate
[15:53] <tsimpson> amik: ok, it's probably because it wants to create .kde in www-data's $HOME, but www-data has some strange restrictions. you could just edit them as root with "kdesudo kate", that should work fine
[15:53] <Sadly> BluesKaj: It said: http://paste.ubuntu.com/297568/
[15:53] <Sadly> BluesKaj: It said: http://paste.ubuntu.com/297568/
[15:55] <amik> tsimpson: I suppose it would, but that seems kinda unsafe... editing files belonging to any other user using root...might accidentally mess up things.
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Sadly, I'm afraid your 8.04 kernel version isn't supported , you need to upgrade
[15:55] <tsimpson> amik: only if you create new files, editing should be completely safe
[15:55] <amik> tsimpson: most notably, once there's a kate open with no indication that it's root, it tends to get reused for other documents, which are then incorrectly saved as root, etc.
[15:56] <Ev0luti0n_> you folks quitting linux to try the new windows 7?
[15:56] <Sadly4> BluesKaj: It take a lot of time... Till i need to upgrade? till 8.10 or 9.04??
[15:56] <tsimpson> amik: that should not happen when kate is owned by different users
[15:57] <amik> tsimpson: ok, I'll try it out. I suppose the crash report is a kate bug, but no biggie.
[15:57] <amik> tsimpson: thanks!
[15:57] <BluesKaj> Sadly4, you have to upgrade to 8.10 , long term support for your kubuntu version ends this month , so i recommend you upgrade to 8.10
[15:57] <Sadly4> Ok... I will back tomorrow...
[15:58] <Sadly4> with 9.04... i will try
[15:58] <Sadly4> Thanks for everything... and don't be angry with me.. i was praying all my attention
[15:58] <BluesKaj> no you must not skip 8.10 , Sadly4
[15:58] <amik> oh, and another related question: is there a way to have all new files created under some directory have the user/group of the directory, rather than root?
[15:58] <Sadly4> skip?? no no.... in APT-Get.... pressing UPDATe
[15:59] <Sadly4> but it takes a lot of time..
[15:59] <BluesKaj> Sadly4, unless you decide to do a clean install of 9.04 or 9.10
[15:59] <Sadly4> i know i did it.. yesterday
[15:59] <Sadly4> a clean install??
[15:59] <Sadly4> with a CD??
[15:59] <BluesKaj> yes , Sadly4
[15:59] <Sadly4> my CD doesn't run "CD-R or CD-RW cds..."
[16:00] <BluesKaj> dvd then
[16:00] <Sadly4> It only Accepts original..
[16:00] <Sadly4> it is broken i think..
[16:00] <Sadly4> i tried to boot a lot of cds..
[16:00] <Sadly4> :(
[16:00] <Sadly4> And i have a CD-USB...
[16:00] <BluesKaj> wait Sadly4
[16:00] <Sadly4> but it doesn't boot..
[16:00] <apparle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/297528/ This error come after fresh install Plz help
[16:01] <BluesKaj> !unrestricted
[16:01] <Sadly4> USB only boots with the A: disketes..
[16:02] <amik> tsimpson:  oh, and another related question: is there a way to have all new files created under some directory have the user/group of the directory, rather than root?
[16:02] <BluesKaj> !restricted extras
[16:02] <BluesKaj> !restricted-extras
[16:03] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:04] <tsimpson> amik: you can force it to have a specific group, I don't think there's a way to force a user
[16:04] <vbgunz> upgrading kubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 caused amarok to not install correctly or install at all. I apt-get removed libqtscriptbindings1and amarok then installed perfectly fine. any thing wrong with this?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> Sadly4, in the terminal / konsole do : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:05] <Sadly4> ok..
[16:08] <amik> tsimpson: can u point me to where I can read about this?
[16:08] <Sadly4> BluesKaj: Package doesn't found... and i writed well
[16:08] <Sadly4> oh no
[16:08] <Sadly4> i wrote it well
[16:08] <Sadly4> it is istaling something..
[16:09] <Sadly4> Ok, it is finished
[16:09] <BluesKaj> ok  Sadly4 , alt+F2 , do : kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources list
[16:10] <BluesKaj> Sadly4, is the file open ?
[16:10] <Sadly4> it just open kate
[16:10] <tsimpson> amik: you need to "sudo chmod g+s /path/to/dir", that should force all newly created files to have the same group as the directory
[16:10] <Sadly4> with a text file
[16:11] <Sadly4> pastebin?
[16:11] <tsimpson> ^ "/etc/apt/sources.list" not "/etc/apt/sources list"
[16:11] <Sadly4> i wrote the dot
[16:12] <BluesKaj> right Sadly4 , now we're going to edit the text file , so your sources can be expanded to include reopositories where apps are available to install thru the konsole
[16:13] <BluesKaj> do you see lines the begin wir deb , some may have a # in front , delete those #
[16:13] <BluesKaj> with
[16:13] <Sadly4> yes a lot
[16:14] <tsimpson> look for one with "multiverse" in it
[16:14] <Sadly4> ok, they were 2
[16:14] <Sadly4> deleted
[16:14] <patcito> hi
[16:14] <BluesKaj> Sadly4, only the lines (which are URL repositories) the begin wirh deb
[16:14] <Sadly4> yes
[16:14] <apparle> I want to compile a package with g++ 3.4 how to
[16:14] <Sadly4> the another # are commentaries..
[16:14] <patcito> what's the official gui to install packages in karmic?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> ok, Sadly4 , now save the file close it,  then open the konsole and do: sudo apt-get update
[16:15] <genii-around> !kpackagekit
[16:15] <Sadly4> I don't get connection ETHERNET right now..
[16:15] <Sadly4> There is a problem with the Cable..
[16:15] <Sadly4> :(
[16:16] <Sadly4> I will try
[16:16] <BluesKaj> Sadly4, then do: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:17] <BluesKaj> ok I have to go on some errands , tsimpson , can you take over if Sadly4 has more probs , he really needs to upgrade , he's on 8.04
[16:17] <Sadly4> 0 actu, 0 will be installed, 0 to eliminate, 400 to update
[16:18] <Sadly4> don't worry Blueskaj, have a nice day
[16:18] <BluesKaj> Sadly4, I have to go for an hr or so
[16:18] <Sadly4> yes yes.. have a nice day, don't worry
[16:18] <BluesKaj> BBL
[16:18] <Sadly4> ¬¬ eing?
[16:18] <Sadly4> BBL to you too
[16:18] <Sadly4> xD
[16:19] <Sadly4> (i don't know what this means.. hahaha)
[16:19] <Sadly4> I will close irc... i am tired... BYE BYE BOYS AND LADYS!!
[16:23] <tsimpson> apparle: looks like g++ 3.4 is only available in hardy
[16:26] <apparle> tsimpson: so what should I do
[16:27] <tsimpson> apparle: it looks like gcc-3.4 is available, so my only suggestion is to download the source for g++ and compile it
[16:35] <luderson> Hi guys!!! can someone explain about the letter icon at the system tray?
[16:36] <S-man_> Test
[16:45] <ubox> can anyone use web cam with kopete via msn?
[17:01] <kyniker> hello
[17:01] <ubox> hello
[17:04] <kyniker> i've got a very tiny /temp partition, which is normally no problem, but now I an installer tells me: no space left on /tmp. Unmounting /tmp fails (device buisy), processes can't be killed. What can I do?
[17:05] <ubox> try rm - R /temp/*
[17:05] <tsimpson> /tmp should be on /
[17:05] <tsimpson> (the root)
[17:05] <ubox> erase the contents
[17:05] <tsimpson> and NEVER delete /tmp
[17:05] <ubox> why?
[17:05] <tsimpson> not unless you want a broken system
[17:05] <kyniker> no, /tmp is still to small
[17:05] <ubox> kyniker is talking about a /temp partition not the /tmp dir in root
[17:06] <ubox> or am i mistaken?
[17:06] <kyniker> ubox, no you're right
[17:06] <ubox> so your /temp is not linked to /tmp
[17:07] <tsimpson> I was going off "no space left on /tmp. Unmounting /tmp fails (device buisy)"
[17:07] <kyniker> uhm
[17:07] <kyniker> perhaps I misunderstood you
[17:07] <ubox> ok, lets start again :)
[17:08] <kyniker>  /dev/foo is a tiny partition mounted on /tmp
[17:08] <ubox> oh ok
[17:08] <kyniker> and it's full
[17:08] <kyniker> and root is even smaller than /tmp
[17:08] <ubox> so what's in there tsimpson?
[17:08] <tsimpson> why do you have /dev/foo in /tmp?
[17:09] <tsimpson> /tmp holds your current X session and sockets for inter-process-communication
[17:09] <tsimpson> as well as other temporary files
[17:09] <kyniker> foo stands for /dev/sda*
[17:09] <ubox> oh, good thing kyniker didn't listen to me
[17:09] <tsimpson> kyniker: I got that, but you shouldn't need to mount anything as /tmp, it's cleared out at boot
[17:10] <kyniker> tsimpson: I MUST do than, since / is much smaller than /tmp
[17:11] <kyniker> *that
[17:11] <tsimpson> / is smaller than /tmp?
[17:11] <kyniker> yes
[17:11] <tsimpson> that's an odd configuration
[17:11] <kyniker> gentoo configuration...
[17:11] <tsimpson> your only hope is to try an kill whatever is using /tmp and try to clear it out
[17:11] <ubox> yes, why not resize / to be the entire size and leave out the other one?
[17:12] <tsimpson> without touching anything you don't know about...
[17:12] <kyniker> can I resize without dataloss?
[17:14] <tsimpson> you can usually resize ext filesystems without data loss IRCC
[17:14] <kyniker> by gparted?
[17:14] <tsimpson> I think it can, yes. but I'm not 100% on it
[17:15] <kyniker> hmmm
[17:15] <Warlock> This is the error I et when trying to update "The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!" any suggestions on how to fix this ???
[17:15] <kyniker> can I fake a /tmp dir just for that one installer e.g. as RAM-disk?
[17:15] <tsimpson> http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions
[17:16] <kyniker> thanx
[17:16] <tsimpson> you should be able to mount another device/RAM-disk over /tmp
[17:16] <tsimpson> without un-mounting
[17:16] <tsimpson> but then /tmp will be empty, so may cause errors for the reasons I said above
[17:17] <kyniker> hm
[17:18] <kyniker> create an RAM disk mount it on /foobar, copy the contents of /tmp on it an re-mount it on /tmp?
[17:18] <kyniker> or will an unmounted ramdisk loose all contents?
[17:19] <kyniker> by the way, tmp is ext2 not ext3
[17:19] <tsimpson> that should work, but unmounting it will loose data. but /tmp is supposed to be temporary
[17:19] <tsimpson> ext3 is just ext2 with a journal
[17:19] <tsimpson> they are the same format
[17:20] <kyniker> ok
[17:21] <kyniker> ah, great: /home (nearly emty till now) is /sda12, tmp /sda11
[17:21] <kyniker> so resizing should be no problem. What's a goo size for /tmp?
[17:23] <tsimpson> it depends
[17:23] <Warlock> This is the error I get when trying to do updates "The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!" any suggestions on how to fix this ?????
[17:24] <tsimpson> kyniker: how much space do you have available?
[17:24] <kyniker> tsimpson: 70GB :D
[17:25] <tsimpson> kyniker: how big was /tmp?
[17:26] <kyniker> 254MB
[17:26] <tsimpson> that's teeny ;)
[17:26] <tsimpson> you couldn't even burn a full CD with that
[17:26] <kyniker> hm, bad
[17:26] <tsimpson> you could probably give it a few GB to be sure, but it's up to you
[17:27] <kyniker> for a DVD 4,7 GB?
[17:27] <tsimpson> safe minimum is 1GB, you'll probably never go over that
[17:27] <tsimpson> yeah
[17:27] <tsimpson> if you want to burn a DVD, about 5 GB would be needed
[17:27] <kyniker> :-/
[17:27] <tsimpson> most for the DVD, and rest for other apps files
[17:28] <kyniker> and 10 GB for double-layer? That's crazy
[17:29] <tsimpson> well it has to create the image first, then send that to the device
[17:29] <tsimpson> it's possible (technically) to do that "on-the-fly", but it's error-prone
[17:31] <kyniker> glad not to have blue-ray
[17:38] <keshaldra> test
[17:53] <lucas__> Buenas
[17:53] <lucas__> hay alguien para poder hablar un rato?
[17:54] <Pici> !e | lucas__
[17:54] <Pici> !es | lucas__
[17:54] <lucas__> gracias
[17:54] <lucas__> no lo sabia
[17:55] <akenda> hello
[17:56] <akenda> join #sex
[18:07] <huachimingo> hi
[19:04] <bolshevikgypsy> hi everyone
[19:05] <bolshevikgypsy> does anyone respond on this channel
[19:05] <bolshevikgypsy> ?
[19:05] <bolshevikgypsy> i could use some support
[19:05] <bolshevikgypsy> ive recently switched over to jaunty from windows
[19:06] <ZuzOnline> thats cool
[19:07] <ZuzOnline> completely switched?  I got Jaunty on a laptop that had the HDD "defective" and lost windows, I installed kubuntu and never had a problem with the hdd again
[19:07] <ZuzOnline> of course I dont put anything there important  :) but I recently been using alot more then my windows PCs
[19:09] <bolshevikgypsy> ok
[19:09] <bolshevikgypsy> well im just getting the hang of kubuntu
[19:09] <bolshevikgypsy> i dont use windows a often anymore
[19:09] <bolshevikgypsy> but there are somethings that completely confound me
[19:09] <bolshevikgypsy> for example
[19:09] <bolshevikgypsy> wine
[19:09] <bolshevikgypsy> there is this software that i tried installing it wants a dll file
[19:09] <bolshevikgypsy> which alerady exists in my windows os
[19:10] <bolshevikgypsy> i dont know how to install it in wine
[19:10] <bolshevikgypsy> any ideas
[19:10] <bolshevikgypsy> ?
[19:13] <ZuzOnline> what software
[19:13] <ZuzOnline> ?
[19:14] <carpii_> wine doesnt read dll's from your windows partition, you need to install it into .wine/drive_c/cd drive_c
[19:15] <carpii_> wine doesnt read dll's from your windows partition, you need to install it into .wine/drive_c/windows etc
[19:15] <ZuzOnline> bolshevikgypsy: i dont use wine because I have 3 other Windows machines in the same room  :)  but if you want to use windows software and have a windows instalation cd/dvd and the license, try this http://www.virtualbox.org/
[19:16] <bolshevikgypsy> thank you zuz
[19:16] <ZuzOnline> ;)
[19:16] <bolshevikgypsy> id like to get the hang of wine before it ry anything else
[19:16] <bolshevikgypsy> since ive heard so much about it
[19:16] <bolshevikgypsy> the software i want to use is
[19:17] <bolshevikgypsy> bit-che, its a torrent search engine which goes through all the major torrent sites and gives you the mosts hits on the torrents you are looking for
[19:17] <bolshevikgypsy> it requests for a dll file that is not in my wine everytime i click on that .exe file
[19:18] <bolshevikgypsy> carpii_ could  you like give me a step by step instruction on how to add dll files to wine? consider me a layman at all of this
[19:19] <carpii_> what dll is it ?
[19:19] <carpii_> if its a redistributable one, youre better off finding an fficial installer for it
[19:20] <carpii_> but otehrwise its really just a case of copying it into your wine folder, as I explained above
[19:20] <ZuzOnline> bolshevikgypsy: id sugest before trying the windows only apps to search for compatible (99% of the time free/open source) for your linux box  :)
[19:22] <bolshevikgypsy> how or where do i access the wine folder from
[19:22] <bolshevikgypsy> ive downloaded the file in question
[19:22] <bolshevikgypsy> its called msvbm60.dll
[19:23] <ZuzOnline> !wine
[19:23] <bolshevikgypsy> zuz in that case would you happen to know of ay torrent search engine that is equally efficient as bit che because i tried the search options  in the ktorrents they arent as helpfull
[19:23] <bolshevikgypsy> ive been to the ubuntu forums
[19:24] <ZuzOnline> bolshevikgypsy: try #winehq
[19:24] <bolshevikgypsy> been there too
[19:24] <ZuzOnline> ohh
[19:24] <bolshevikgypsy> its either that the nature of my problem isnt state there
[19:24] <bolshevikgypsy> or iam too much of an idiot to understand anything
[19:24] <bolshevikgypsy> i have the dll file i need just tell me where i can access the wine folder from
[19:24] <ZuzOnline> i noticed that the kubuntu channel is very slow compared to the ubuntu channel and they can also help with kubuntu
[19:25] <bolshevikgypsy> Unable to run the command specified. The file or folder file:///home/younas/Documents/.wine/dosdevices/c: does not exist.  i tried opening teh c druive option in teh applications menu under wine but it gave me the aforementioned error
[19:25] <bolshevikgypsy> well this si the first time im using the irc client on my kubuntu
[19:25] <bolshevikgypsy> i havent used irc since  i was 16
[19:25] <bolshevikgypsy> lol
[19:31] <bolshevikgypsy> brb
[20:13] <elena> hey
[20:15] <wftl> Ubuntu Gets the "K" -- http://tinyurl.com/ylqt263
[20:16] <chanson> Hi all, I have a question regarding KWin on an intel 965 chipset.  I am running Kubuntu 9.10 Beta, that has been sufficiently updated and upgraded.  Using the PAE kernel
[20:17] <chanson> I can't seem to keep KWin up and running compositing.  GLXGears works and so do screensavers, however KWin just doesn't seem to stay up
[20:44] <orient2000> mmm
[20:45] <orient2000> hi I was installing mythtv and mythubuntu with some problems and now my HD is runing all the time any ideas?
[20:56] <oblom> hello
[20:57] <orient2000> anybody knows how to stop gnome-system-monitor?
[20:59] <markos__> I don't receive the 'new distribution' notification any more (currently running hardy) is there a reason for this?
[21:02] <jamesjedimaster> hardy is lts, so you must run manually a dist upgrade
[21:04] <markos__> when I run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' it says there are no packages to be upgraded
[21:05] <markos__> until a week ago, I used to get the "new distribution" notification in adept manager after applying any updates, but I don;t get the notification anymore. Is this because of the upcoming release?
[21:07] <orient2000> anybody knows how to stop gnome-system-monitor?
[21:36] <ba> slt
[21:38] <kubu> hio
[21:38] <kubu> hi
[21:38] <kubu> what is the fastest os?
[21:51] <da> how does one get this computer to play DVDS?
[21:54] <da> #msg join ubuntu
[21:55] <da> join ubuntu
[21:55] <da> #ubuntu
[21:56] <SonorKaj> da just click on #ubuntu
[22:10] <da> #ubuntu
[22:10] <da> join ubuntu
[22:11] <da> #ubuntu
[22:11] <Tm_T> da: /join #ubuntu
[22:12] <da> okay thank you...
[22:17] <aisen> daf
[22:24] <Tathagata> My KWord from KOffice 2.1 beta 2 (installed from PPA) can't work (import and export) with Microsoft Word files (.DOC). Is this a feature of this beta package or I should install some additional packages?
[22:25] <Tathagata> BTW I use Karmic with all the latest updates.
[22:43] <pete_> hi
[22:43] <Guest97169> I've just installed the latest nightly 9.1,
[22:44] <Guest97169> do software repositories still not work?
[22:44] <Guest97169> I was hoping to install FF3.5
[22:44] <Guest97169> when will they come active?
[22:46] <Guest97169> anyone?
[23:20] <a__> hei
[23:29] <Tweek900> hey guys
[23:29] <Tweek900> anyone in here know anything about wifi drivers?
[23:30] <Tweek900> ArkoldThos:  do you know much about java?
[23:31] <ArkoldThos> Tweek900, hmm not many
[23:31] <ArkoldThos> what do you need?
[23:31] <Tweek900> well i play a game called runescape
[23:31] <Tweek900> but i cant get it to go into high detail and theres small graohical errors
[23:32] <Tweek900> guessing its a problem in java somewhere
[23:32] <ArkoldThos> oh... I know the game but never played it
[23:32] <Tweek900> lol you should :)
[23:32] <ArkoldThos> I would suggest read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341713 and search for other posts where people talks about it on linux
[23:33] <Tweek900> alright
[23:33] <Tweek900> thanks :)
[23:34] <Tweek900> any you thought of anything new with the wifi?
[23:35] <Tweek900> hm ArkoldThos this tells me to go to system->preferences->java control panel. but i find that...
[23:35] <Tweek900> any clue where it could be?
[23:35] <ArkoldThos> playing zelda ocarina of time atm with mupen64 :P
[23:35] <ArkoldThos> because of that I take sometime to answer :p
[23:35] <Tweek900> ok lol
[23:36] <ArkoldThos> well, on kubuntu I just write
[23:36] <ArkoldThos> on the launcher java
[23:36] <ArkoldThos> and it appears there :p
[23:36] <Tweek900> ok
[23:36] <ArkoldThos> 122 s lag damn :P
[23:38] <openphase>   its at apps->settings here
[23:38] <Qu4Z> ArkoldThos: OOT :D
[23:39] <Tweek900> i found it :)
[23:39] <ArkoldThos> where I take the damn fire tunica? forgot it :(
[23:39] <Qu4Z> Wait, let me try again
[23:39] <Qu4Z> ArkoldThos: OoT :D
[23:39] <ArkoldThos> any clue Qu4Z, was on goron cave right? :p
[23:39] <Qu4Z> Where you take the fire tunic? Do you have the fire tunic?
[23:39] <ArkoldThos> where i take it D:
[23:39] <Qu4Z> Hang on...
[23:40] <ArkoldThos> goron city
[23:40] <ArkoldThos> with the damn goron rolling :D
[23:40] <Tweek900> how do you run .exe files?
[23:41] <Qu4Z> Tweek900: You don't.
[23:41] <Tweek900> :(
[23:41] <Qu4Z> Except sometimes with Wine, but usually you don't :-/
[23:41] <Qu4Z> It's Linux, not Windows.
[23:41] <Qu4Z> How do you open .doc files in photoshop?
[23:51] <discozohan> hello people, i have problem with sound
[23:51] <discozohan> Sometime, after some hours ( 5 - 10 ), my sound getting owned. Its just being stopped until i'll make reboot.
[23:51] <discozohan> after reboots always everything ok
[23:52] <discozohan> is there any way to fix this shit ?
[23:54] <carmelita> hello, I have a problem with old files
[23:55] <carmelita> THey have accents and all seem to be not recognizable, I cannot copy them, the system says they don't exist
[23:55] <carmelita> Is this because they probably where UTF? how can I change the coding in Kubuntu?


[04:31] <Noskcaj> jbicha: Should i make a sepparate bug for the fonts-liberation transition? It's difficult to track currently
[04:46] <jbicha> you don't have to ask to open bugs :)
[04:51] <Noskcaj> jbicha: no, but i thought it might waste time
[06:40] <dholbach> good morning
[08:59] <Adri2000> Noskcaj: hi
[09:05] <Noskcaj> hello Adri2000
[09:15] <Adri2000> Noskcaj: bug #1224337 you missed something
[09:16] <Adri2000> there is another change in the ubuntu package
[09:16] <Noskcaj> Adri2000, oops.
[09:18] <Noskcaj> Do you think it's work merging?
[09:18] <cjwatson> Noskcaj: A bug for the fonts-liberation transition is probably a waste of time, since proposed-migration is doing a perfectly fine job of tracking what's left to do
[09:19] <Noskcaj> cjwatson, ok, Should i just invalid everything? where is proposed-migration?
[09:20]  * Noskcaj really needs to pay attention to this more
[09:21] <Adri2000> Noskcaj: not really worth it no. everything that is in debian already is in ubuntu, so merging it won't have much effect apart from changing the version number from -0ubuntu1 to -1ubuntu1 :)
[09:24] <cjwatson> Noskcaj: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/
[09:24] <Noskcaj> thanks
[09:24] <cjwatson> Noskcaj: I'd have a much easier time merging your branches in general if you stuck to just the changes that are necessary, rather than bundling in extraneous stuff :-/
[09:24] <cjwatson> (have posted reviews)
[09:25] <Noskcaj> ok, sorry
[09:27] <cjwatson> In particular, don't refresh patches that originate from Debian unless it's actually necessary.  That sort of thing has a habit of really confusing people who come along and merge things later.
[09:27] <cjwatson> ("Actually necessary": that is, if the source package actually fails to unpack otherwise.)
[10:04] <Noskcaj> cjwatson, I've fixed the two existing packages, i should have time for one more tonight
[17:35] <ToBeFree> Hi, I'd like to see the charybdis IRCd (http://www.atheme.org/project/charybdis) in the Ubuntu repositories. Where do I need to suggest that? In the charybdis channel, I was told that I should probably ask a MOTU about this :-)
[17:35] <jtaylor> it already is
[17:35] <jtaylor> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/charybdis
[17:44] <ToBeFree> I wonder why I never found that before, nevermind :D
[17:44] <ToBeFree> and now I wanted to suggest atheme and it is there, too. O.o
[17:45] <ToBeFree> I'm somewhat confused, but thanks anyway, heh
[17:47] <ToBeFree> aaah I know: I was using "aptitude search ircd". That explains it
[22:07] <Noskcaj> I think all the packages in the fonts-liberation transition now have a sync bug or a branch linked