[03:27] <claudiu> and it says E: Couldn't find package wesnoth
[03:27] <xuniL____> you need to chane you scource.lpist
[03:28] <claudiu> okay but how . i worry not to make a mess of it
[03:28] <xuniL____> but i think they have the old version of wesnoth... if they havent updated it...
[03:28] <claudiu> xuniL____: what should I add to sources.lst
[03:29] <claudiu> can you mai me your sources.lst ?
[03:29] <claudiu> can you mail me your sources.lst  pls ?
[03:29] <xuniL____> not on linux right onow
[03:29] <xuniL____> you know where the source.list are?
[03:30] <claudiu> yep
[03:30] <xuniL____> good..
[03:30] <claudiu> in /etc
[03:30] <xuniL____> have you opened it..
[03:30] <claudiu> ok
[03:31] <xuniL____> it was so long ago i where log on in linux,,,
[03:31] <xuniL____> but there should be something like universe.. or something like that
[03:31] <claudiu> what are you doing on kubuntu then ?
[03:32] <strike4ce> OculusAquilae: Why do you have to be a smart ass?  You're the type that runs people off from Kubuntu
[03:32] <xuniL____> paste your shource.list here pastebin.com
[03:32] <xuniL____> then i can tell you whant to do..
[03:32] <claudiu> xuniL____: wait pls
[03:33] <OculusAquilae> strike4ce: what? sorry, but what do you mean?
[03:33] <xuniL____> okey
[03:33] <OculusAquilae> strike4ce: you can remove it via Adept
[03:34] <OculusAquilae> click on it and then Remove or something like that
[03:35] <claudiu> xuniL____: i did it. just had to uncomment some stuff here. thnx a lot anyway
[03:35] <claudiu> :D
[03:35] <xuniL____> :D
[03:37] <ph8> ok
[03:37] <ph8> I can mount it in windows
[03:37] <ph8> why would it mount there and not here? :(
[03:37] <aftertaf> ph8:  check your user rights on /media
[03:37] <ph8> ? ;)
[03:38] <_thomas> What must I do to make it possible to play mp3's in amaroK og Kaffeine?
[03:38] <aftertaf> !mp3
[03:38] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:38] <martin> !mp3
[03:40] <strike4ce> OculusAquilae: In adept it doesnt show anything to remove.  In fact it shows kynaptic under keep?
[03:40] <martin> Anyone know from where can i install Azureus in kubuntu breezy?
[03:41] <OculusAquilae> strike4ce: click on it an klick on remove package
[03:42] <uli> y0
[03:42] <uli> i have a problem:
[03:42] <uli> where do i get a complete breezy 5.10 multimedia codec package?
[03:42] <ph8> test
[03:42] <ph8> can you hear me?
[03:43] <ph8> having proxy issues
[03:43] <pointwood> yes yes
[03:43] <uli> anyone know?
[03:43] <_thomas> Do this mean that it isn't possible to play mp3's in kubuntu? I manage to do it when I first testen linux, it was ubuntu dough.. Or to this just mean that the audioplayer can't support mp3 oit of the box?
[03:44] <uli> ah serwas charolastra^^
[03:44] <OculusAquilae> strike4ce: succes now?
[03:44] <charolastra> hehe hi
[03:44] <charolastra> uli: #kubuntu-de gits auch noch :)
[03:44] <kkathman> Did Breezy puposely disable several of Konqueror's features?
[03:45] <charolastra> kkathman: like?
[03:45] <kkathman> Well, perhaps its just how Konqi does it now...but I notice that there arent menu items for splitting left/right, etc...you must now enable a toolbar and put those options there instead
[03:46] <kkathman> Another example....loading/saving profiles
[03:48] <aftertaf> _thomas:  restricted format, no right to distribute with cd
[03:50] <strike4ce> OculusAquilae: but it says to keep installed?
[03:51] <kkathman> charolastra: sorry I meant to have those last 2 responses directed to you
[03:51] <OculusAquilae> strike4ce: what?
[03:52] <charolastra> hehe, well, can't help you with that (as i don't have kubuntu; i though you might mean stuff like "speak website"
[03:53] <kkathman> ah ok
[03:53] <kkathman> charolastra: funny you should be in the kubuntu channel then :)
[03:54] <charolastra> kkathman: you see, i'm the support hotline for a friend :)
[03:54] <sedeki> how can i change encoding from utf8?
[03:54] <charolastra> where?
[03:54] <charolastra> here?
[03:54] <kkathman> here, there, everywhere lol
[04:00] <reagleBRKLN> "Katapult is used to start applications and bookmarks. Just press Alt+Space then type the name of the program" alt+space does nothing, but page down in konq...?
[04:00] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: try to start katapult from the menu
[04:01] <reagleBRKLN> OculusAquilae: don't see it?
[04:01] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: try to start katapult from the menu
[04:01] <OculusAquilae> sorry
[04:01] <reagleBRKLN> in utilties?
[04:01] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: simply do ALT+F2 and then type "katapult"
[04:02] <ep> are the backports broken?
[04:02] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: should be
[04:02] <OculusAquilae> ep: think there aren't any backports
[04:02] <reagleBRKLN> ah... very cool. how to use with bookmarks?
[04:03] <ep> ah, how would one go about apt-getting mplayer for i386/586?
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep. mplayer is in universe
[04:03] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: try to type the bookmark name
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> apt-get install mplayer-i[35] 86
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> iirc
[04:04] <reagleBRKLN> OculusAquilae: hrmm... not working
[04:05] <reagleBRKLN> e.g., `g test` is my bookmark to search google for 'test'
[04:05] <ep> apt-cache search mplayer doesn't list it.  Have I screwed up more sources?
[04:05] <Tm_T> reagleBRKLN: check your shortcut settings
[04:05] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: try to push STRG+C while the display is shown
[04:06] <reagleBRKLN> strg+c ?
[04:06] <Tm_T> OculusAquilae: I think hes has the same problem I did
[04:06] <Tm_T> -s
[04:06] <reagleBRKLN> shortcuts enabled, work in konq address bar, keyword delim is space
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep:  make sure universe is enabledc
[04:07] <OculusAquilae> Tm_T: don't think so
[04:07] <Tm_T> reagleBRKLN: kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard shortcuts
[04:07] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: does it work for programs?
[04:07] <Tm_T> reagleBRKLN: if something is using alt+space...
[04:08] <ep> I've done apt-get update and its listed in my source.list file.  What should I do exactly Kamping_Kaiser
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep are you using hoary or breezy?
[04:08] <ep> breezy
[04:08] <reagleBRKLN> alt+space brings up katapult,  and I can use it to launch programs, just not bookmarks
[04:08] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: try to push STRG+C while the display is shown
[04:08] <OculusAquilae> press
[04:08] <reagleBRKLN> what is strg+c ?
[04:09] <dipnlik> reagleBRKLN: what's the big difference between katapult and alt+f2? (or win+r?)
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep - mplayer-[3,5,6] 86 are your options. no i
[04:09] <dipnlik> strg = alt
[04:09] <dipnlik> or ctrl, can remember
[04:09] <dipnlik> can't*
[04:09] <reagleBRKLN> alt+space, alt+c show control center in katapult
[04:10] <OculusAquilae> yes
[04:10] <ep> apt-cache search mplayer-386 list nothing
[04:10] <reagleBRKLN> OculusAquilae:  so what does that tell me about bookmarks?
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep: pastebin your sources list
[04:10] <OculusAquilae> dipnlik: much faster than minicli (ALT+F2)
[04:11] <ep> ok
[04:11] <dipnlik> OculusAquilae: hm
[04:11] <MachineScrew> damn I am board
[04:11] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: try to look if it is enabled in "Catalogs"
[04:11] <OculusAquilae> dipnlik: you don't have to know the executables name
[04:11] <reagleBRKLN> Where is that option?
[04:12] <dipnlik> any advice before upgrading to breezy?
[04:12] <apokryphos> !breezyupgrade
[04:12] <ubotu> [breezyupgrade]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:12] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: STRG+C while katapult display is shown
[04:12] <dipnlik> thanks
[04:12] <reagleBRKLN> ah
[04:13] <ep> My sources.list --> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393445
[04:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[04:14] <reagleBRKLN> Number of characters before searching is set to three -- not that I know what that means
[04:14] <dipnlik> apokryphos: i read about a problem with konsole fonts, was this already solved?
[04:14] <gibarian> Uh...is it a problem with my installation, or does Kplayer simply not work on breezy anymore (unresolved dependencies when trying to download...)?
[04:14] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: i don't know what it means too :-)
[04:15] <apokryphos> dipnlik: haven't heard of it
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep: looks ok. i just noticed though (sorry about this), mplayer is in multiverse
[04:15] <ep> oh ok, it will have to wait I guess
[04:15] <dipnlik> apokryphos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyKnownProblems
[04:16] <reagleBRKLN> well, the bookmark catalog is in "selected", -- not that the bookmark catalog iss in "selected"
[04:16] <ep> My konsole fonts are goofy by the way.   Where can I read up?
[04:16] <reagleBRKLN> oops
[04:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep: if you add multiverse to all lines with universe you should have mplayer
[04:16] <reagleBRKLN> so it is selected, so I am not sure why it doesn't work
[04:16] <dipnlik> ep: the link above has a simple solution, is was a typo
[04:17] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: what bookmark do you search for
[04:17] <OculusAquilae> ?
[04:17] <reagleBRKLN> e.g., `g test` is my bookmark to search google for 'test'
[04:17] <ep> dipnlik, trying to find the link
[04:17] <apokryphos> dipnlik: well, no problem here at least.
[04:17] <dipnlik> ep: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyKnownProblems
[04:17] <reagleBRKLN> OculusAquilae:  if I type that, the icon that is shown after `g ` is just that of the unknown/default document
[04:18] <dipnlik> apokryphos: ok, will try it now. already downloaded the packages, just need to install them. wish me luck :)
[04:18] <apokryphos> g'luck :)
[04:19] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: thats not a normal bookmark of konqueror or firefox i think
[04:19] <dipnlik> OculusAquilae: on FF it is a normal bookmark
[04:19] <dipnlik> bookmark to http://www.google.com/search?q=%s , with a nickname "g"
[04:20] <reagleBRKLN> huh?  what do you use? I would assume you would read the shortcut configuration in konq's settings/ configured Konqueror/Web shortcuts
[04:20] <reagleBRKLN> there if have "g" set to http://www.google.com/search?q=\{@}&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[04:20] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: but katapult only accept (lets call it) static bookmarks
[04:20] <OculusAquilae> without argument
[04:20] <OculusAquilae> s
[04:20] <reagleBRKLN> I don't know what that is, what is the static bookmark for Google
[04:21] <reagleBRKLN> oh...  I think
[04:21] <reagleBRKLN> well, just using g  doesn't work because if I hit return it pulls up gqview
[04:22] <Chousuke> omg :o
[04:22] <OculusAquilae> reagleBRKLN: you could use bookmarks to http://www.google.de for example
[04:22] <Chousuke> katapult looks like quicksilver.
[04:22] <reagleBRKLN> anyway, Anita turned to the more serious problem of my sound --  when I installed breesy  it doesn't work anymore
[04:22] <reagleBRKLN> back in a sec
[04:23] <Chousuke> Indeed, it seems to be inspired by quicksilver
[04:23] <Chousuke> Quicksilver is the best app ever.
[04:23] <Chousuke> I hope people clone it lots on both Gnome and KDE.
[04:23] <ep> Kamping_Kaiser, On the sources.list I posted, theres a couple of "multiverse" lines I commented out.  They gave me problems.   I should ignore these lines (made by the install) and instead add multiverse to the universe lines?
[04:24] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:24] <OculusAquilae> Chousuke: it is inspired by quicksilver
[04:25] <Chousuke> OculusAquilae: yeah. Google told me that.
[04:26] <Chousuke> OculusAquilae: And as I already said, Quicksilver is the best app ever.
[04:26] <apokryphos> that good? ;-)
[04:26] <Chousuke> Hell yes. :D
[04:26] <OculusAquilae> possible (never used quicksilver)
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> ep. either way (sorry, im working on another box :O)
[04:27] <Chousuke> makes lauching apps, accessing bookmarks, sending mail and all that doable without ever touching the mouse. :P
[04:27] <ep> i'll play with it thanks
[04:29] <ep> Quick question on firefox.  How do I get a middle mouse click to open clipboard url in a new tab.  I've lost this functionality on a new install.
[04:29] <apokryphos> edit -> preferences...somewhere
[04:29] <OculusAquilae> :-)
[04:29] <Chousuke> OculusAquilae: For example, I can select a bunch of files, press Cmd-esc to send them to QS, then press tab and type "mail" as the action, press tab, and start either an e-mail address or a name from my address book, and press enter to send those files :)
[04:29] <ep> i thought it might be a line in about:config
[04:30] <Chousuke> QS is like a pretty and easy-to-use GUI for the command line
[04:30] <Chousuke> or hmm.
[04:31] <Chousuke> not quite. but it rocks.
[04:31] <OculusAquilae> Chousuke: hm, seems difficult to implement, but I hope this will be possible with katapult too
[04:31] <Chousuke> and I hope people will clone it for KDE and Gnome too.
[04:32] <ep> ah its middlemouse.contentLoadURL to true in about:config
[04:32] <apokryphos> haven't heard of gnome having anything like that
[04:32] <uli> so mal neu eingeloggt^^
[04:32] <ep> should be the default AFAIK
[04:32] <uli> noch ist alles flssig...
[04:33] <OculusAquilae> uli: wrong channel :-)
[04:34] <uli> nana, ich bin schon im richtigen channel
[04:34] <uli> ups
[04:34] <uli> sorry
[04:34] <apokryphos> well, surely not, since English only in this channel :)
[04:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> no uli your not ;)
[04:34] <uli> u right....lol
[04:34] <uli> k
[04:34] <OculusAquilae> :-)
[04:34] <OculusAquilae> #kubuntu-de
[04:36] <MachineScrew> why is KDE Desktop better
[04:37] <apokryphos> use Google
[04:39] <nikkia> KDE doesn't kill puppies!
[04:39] <Tm_T> why not
[04:39] <nikkia> (gnome may, or may not, i'm not saying :P
[04:39] <sproingie> yeah, we want to know
[04:40] <sproingie> my car gets 40 miles on a full tank of puppies
[04:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:40] <os2mac> has anyone else had a problem with the network settings app not going into administrator mode?
[04:41] <nikkia> sproingie:  you are that sick german guy that runs his car on kittens, aicmfp
[04:41] <sproingie> nikkia: how could you accuse me of such a horrible thing?
[04:41] <sproingie> nikkia: my car runs on puppies!
[04:41] <paelscrit> im about to install kubuntu
[04:41] <apokryphos> congrats
[04:42] <os2mac> anyone got time to help me with a network settings question?
[04:42] <sproingie> gnome's file selector certainly makes me want to kill
[04:42] <apokryphos> sproingie: i.e. the open/save dialogue?
[04:43] <apokryphos> tell me about it :D
[04:43] <sproingie> i hardly use the features of most modern DE's otherwise
[04:43] <sproingie> but it's nice having thumbnails of pictures i'm uploading to a website right in the file selector
[04:43] <apokryphos> indeed
[04:44] <ep> Ok, After I uncomment the mulitverse lines on my sources.list I get pages of "couldn't stat source package" errors.
[04:45] <ep> I pasted my sources.list earlier (the multeverese lines are commented out)  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393445
[04:45] <os2mac> If I suspend my laptop (Dell Inspiron 8600) and I start it back up, my network settings reconfigure to eth0 enabled and I lose the essid and key on my wlan0 card (which was enabled on suspend)
[04:45] <sproingie> maybe using some IPC trick
[04:45] <mart> ep: you probably need to 'apt-get update' first
[04:46] <os2mac> and when I try to use the network settings app it won't let me go into administrator mode.
[04:46] <katakombi> hi.
[04:46] <sproingie> they probably have more or less identical return conventions -- a filename or list of them
[04:46] <katakombi> does anybody know when libqt4.0.1-dev will get into ubuntu?
[04:46] <apokryphos> sproingie: there was a *really* funny video I had with a comparison of them both, but the guy seems to have taken it off the server :/
[04:46] <mart> sproingie: actually there's quite some difference
[04:47] <mart> sproingie: hang on, I'll find an article about planned integration work in kde
[04:47] <sproingie> mart: but nothing that an adaptor couldn't paper over, no?
[04:47] <mart> sproingie: yeah
[04:47] <mart> like previews
[04:48] <ep> I get the errors when I run 'apt-get update'.   Afterwards if I try something like 'apt-cache search mplayer', I will also get errors. In order to fix all this I have to uncomment those multiverse lines and re-update.
[04:48] <sproingie> all the previews invoke ioslaves, no?
[04:48] <IlMonaco> hi to all
[04:48] <IlMonaco> i have a problem with the bootsplash
[04:49] <mart> sproingie: also, some classes subclass the kde file dialog box
[04:49] <IlMonaco> when kubuntu starts
[04:49] <ep> I meant to say I have to comment out the multiverse lines in order to fix the errors.
[04:49] <sproingie> the file picker would probably have to run out-of-process.  but hey, both kde and gnome speak corba, no?  ;)
[04:49] <IlMonaco> he says
[04:49] <IlMonaco> vesafb.ko not found
[04:49] <mart> sproingie: kde doesn't speak corba no
[04:49] <IlMonaco> what do you think about this problem?
[04:49] <os2mac> anyone got any ideas?
[04:49] <mart> sproingie: plan was to do some out of process thing using dbus, and xml transport
[04:50] <sproingie> and i don't know if gnome has ever actually used it.  dbus would probably be more appropriate
[04:50] <reagleBRKLN> I installed breezy  over my existing hedgehog root partition.  everything is fine except my sound does not work
[04:50] <sproingie> i learned corba from books a long time back.  all i can say is it's somewhat better than tooltalk
[04:50] <mart> sproingie: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1396
[04:50] <sproingie> otherwise it's a horror
[04:51] <mart> sproingie: (but where's the main article?...)
[04:52] <mart> sproingie: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1398
[04:53] <reagleBRKLN> could gstreamer be getting in the way or doing something weird?
[04:53] <reagleBRKLN> I also don't hear anything from `cat sample.au > /dev/dsp`  so perhaps it is the kernel
[04:54] <reagleBRKLN> but the modules all seem to be there: snd                    48644  6 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[04:54] <reagleBRKLN> `lspci` 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[04:55] <sproingie> i always thought that microsoft was going the wrong way by abandoning DDE
[04:55] <Tm_T> DDE ?
[04:55] <sproingie> but given the slowness of out-of-process OLE components, i can see why they chose COM
[04:56] <Tm_T> ah
[04:56] <sproingie> Tm_T: Dynamic Data Exchange.  it was windows 3.1's primary IPC messaging mechanism
[04:56] <sproingie> apps still use it now, but only in rather trivial ways
[04:56] <Tm_T> ok
[04:57] <sproingie> i suppose some things you'd still want to keep in-process
[04:57] <IlMonaco> what about my problem with bootsplash?
[04:57] <sproingie> making every button on a toolbar a com object is fine, making every one a process is not
[04:59] <adrianoc> please, i cant conect MSN from KOPETE, but GIM is ok.
[05:00] <apokryphos> well... what's the error?
[05:02] <adrianoc> the kopete say: the password was wrong: please re-enter ... but she is correct
[05:03] <apokryphos> adrianoc: upgrade to breezy
[05:05] <adrianoc> but i using KDE, i can using kubuntu with source.list from breezy ?
[05:05] <adrianoc> breey is only gnome ?
[05:05] <Tm_T> err
[05:05] <Tm_T> adrianoc: ofcourse there's Kubuntu breezy
[05:05] <sproingie> breezy is all of ubuntu.  that includes kubuntu
[05:06] <sproingie> and now apparently xubuntu
[05:06] <adrianoc> ok, thanks i try
[05:07] <sproingie> anyone actually successfully used opera's irc?
[05:07] <Tm_T> me
[05:08] <Tm_T> a very long time ago
[05:08] <sproingie> huh.  seemed totally broken in 8.5
[05:08] <Tm_T> I was highly forced then
[05:08] <sproingie> ah, nothing else to use, eh?
[05:08] <gibarian> the breezy opera version gives me a segmentation fault...very much like the newest VLC version
[05:08] <apokryphos> oO
[05:08] <Tm_T> sproingie: it's useful
[05:08] <Tm_T> usable
[05:08] <sproingie> xchat now.  i wish konversation had the features i wanted.  not crashing would be one feature
[05:09] <sproingie> conference mode another
[05:09] <sproingie> ksirc might be hackable with perl.  but i guess it was too much work to actually document the perl API
[05:10] <reagleBRKLN> don't have sound with breezy, but if i rmmod snd-intel8x0, and then modprobe it, i do here a click; syslog says ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[B]  -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[05:11] <adrianoc> please ... Fail to down http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum incorrect
[05:13] <raphink> hi
[05:13] <raphink> I've got a problem with the kde 3.5beta1 repositories lately
[05:14] <raphink> I get a 'NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088' and 'BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:14] <raphink> i've tried to update the registered keys for<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but it doesn't help
[05:14] <raphink> any idea?
[05:15] <paelscrit> is kubuntu configured to play mp3's ?
[05:16] <raphink> paelscrit: you have to install the mp3 librairies
[05:16] <paelscrit> okay thanks
[05:17] <raphink> you can use easyubuntu to do it easily
[05:17] <nikkia> sproingie: have you tried kvirc ?
[05:19] <paelscrit> i use breezy though
[05:19] <paelscrit> or am installing breezy atm
[05:19] <raphink> mhm
[05:19] <raphink> that's good
[05:20] <raphink> it seems some kubuntu developer has forgotten to export his key after adding an email address
[05:20] <raphink> or else I'm can't explain what's wrong
[05:21] <brosioz> hi
[05:21] <brosioz> anyone have k3b and dvd pioneer 110D i can burn only 2x with support 8x dvd-r anyone could help ?
[05:21] <raphink> anybody has got a problem with kde 3.5 packages?
[05:21] <raphink> brosioz: you should ask on #k3b I think
[05:21] <god-zero> I really wish someone in the GNU/GPL world would come up with a torrent based update system, preferrably with a voting/commenting system
[05:21] <nikkia> brosioz: i don't have that combination, but.... try turning off kded in the control center
[05:21] <MachineScrew> raphink: pobly unstable
[05:22] <nikkia> brosioz: kded (the media:/ handler) can seriously  interfere with CD/DVD writing
[05:22] <brosioz> kded ?
[05:22] <MachineScrew> damn I am sucking at spelling today
[05:22] <evilmegaman> hi, I installed java and I can't remember how to enable it. Because it seems that the gnu java thing is the current java. I want the sun java
[05:22] <Ayiden> Where do you find the Kubuntu 5.10 kernel-sources ?
[05:23] <brosioz> nikki_a_, where ?
[05:23] <raphink> evilmegaman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:23] <Ayiden> without apt-get.. because with out the sources I cant go online
[05:23] <evilmegaman> thanks raphink
[05:24] <Ayiden> Could some one please tell me where to find kubuntu 5.10 kernel sources?
[05:24] <raphink> Ayiden:  $ apt-cache search linux | grep header
[05:24] <raphink> should help you
[05:24] <Ayiden> I cant go online with out them though
[05:24] <raphink> huh?
[05:24] <nikkia> brosioz: in the control center, KDE Comonents, Service Manager, KDED Media Manager
[05:24] <raphink> Ayiden: you mean the repositorise then
[05:24] <raphink> not the kernel source
[05:25] <raphink> Ayiden: I can't see why not having the kernel source would prevent you to use apt-get ;)
[05:25] <Ayiden> win modem
[05:25] <Ayiden> hsf
[05:26] <Ayiden> its crap i know *(lol)
[05:26] <brosioz> nikkia, thx but it's the same
[05:26] <raphink> hmmm
[05:26] <brosioz> i'm burining now a dvd
[05:26] <raphink> gtg
[05:26] <Ayiden> but the modem works fine with the liuxant drivers
[05:26] <brosioz> and is always 2x
[05:26] <Ayiden> linuxant***
[05:27] <evilmegaman> I can't find where it says how to enable Sun java instead of gnu java raphink...
[05:27] <nikkia> brosioz: hmmm, my 8x drive starts at about 2x, but gets faster, because its zone-CLV, are you sure that's not what you're seeing ?
[05:27] <raphink> uninstall gnu java evilmegaman
[05:27] <nikkia> well, its a 16x drive, but i only have 8x media :)
[05:27] <raphink> and you'll only have sun left
[05:27] <apokryphos> !tell evilmegaman about javadebs
[05:27] <evilmegaman> okay thanks raphink :)
[05:27] <brosioz> nikkia, yes of course its start at 2x but remains always 2x
[05:27] <brosioz> :\
[05:27] <brosioz> now i'm 87% of 4.3gb
[05:28] <brosioz> 25minutes
[05:28] <brosioz> :
[05:30] <evilmegaman> So just remove anything that refers to gij right?
[05:31] <apokryphos> you really don't have to remove gij at all.. you can just install java's sun; they can happily coexist
[05:31] <evilmegaman> Oh
[05:31] <evilmegaman> And how would I do that?
[05:31] <helpme> how do i make konversation autoconnect me to some channels at startup?
[05:31] <evilmegaman> I installed sun already. but it needs to be enabled
[05:31] <apokryphos> evilmegaman: check the /msg you got from ubotu
[05:31] <evilmegaman> oh sorry
[05:31] <evilmegaman> Didn't notice
[05:31] <apokryphos> helpme: have you read the handbook?
[05:32] <helpme> apokryphos: ok got that:)
[05:33] <evilmegaman> apokryphos, Sorry but is there a way to just enable the stuff in /usr/java?
[05:33] <apokryphos> I have no idea what you mean by enable
[05:33] <evilmegaman> When  I do java --version, It tells me I am using GNU java
[05:34] <evilmegaman> I want it to use sun java
[05:35] <apokryphos> evilmegaman: did you install the deb?
[05:35] <evilmegaman> Nope
[05:35] <evilmegaman> the .bin
[05:35] <evilmegaman> the official one..
[05:36] <apokryphos> you could have gone wrong on a few steps; I really recommend just using the deb
[05:36] <evilmegaman> Okay
[05:40] <brosioz> how could i enable dma on my dvd recorder /dev/hda ?
[05:40] <mart> brosioz: is hdparm installed?
[05:41] <brosioz> mart, why hdparm ?
[05:41] <brosioz> anyway not
[05:41] <mart> brosioz: it's the only way I know to turn on dma
[05:41] <chakie> has anyone here happened to play with the ipod:/ ioslave and not been able to add files to it?
[05:42] <charolastra> because it sets the parameters of your HD (actually anything connected to IDE)
[05:42] <brosioz> mmm
[05:43] <brosioz> anyway exist a way to active dma on my dvdrecorder without hdparm ?
[05:43] <mart> brosioz: not that I know of
[05:43] <moebious> maybe i am asking something trivial, but couldnt find the answer from a quick look on the kubuntu website... can one download ubuntu, then add kde and kde config files from kubuntu later?
[05:44] <mart> moebious: yeah
[05:45] <mart> moebious: you'd just need to install the kubuntu-desktop package
[05:45] <kkathman> back...hope everyone is well :)
[05:46] <moebious> mart, which isnt included in the ubuntu dvd? but only through apt later?
[05:46] <kkathman> moebious: in fact what mart says is the preferred method
[05:46] <Kaiser_sleeps> night all
[05:46] <kkathman> night Kaiser_sleeps
[05:47] <kkathman> moebious: its not included in the dvd, because gnome is the default desktop manager. KDE is an add-on
[05:47] <mart> moebious: or you could get the kubuntu cd
[05:47] <kkathman> not everyone prefers KDE
[05:47] <mart> moebious: and use apt-cdrom add
[05:47] <kkathman> but I'm of the opinion, its much better to clean-install ubuntu, then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:50] <Ayide1> is there a place to download the kubuntu 5.10 kernel-sources without APT-GET... i need a link to download the sources on windows
[05:50] <helpme> can't I install gnome from the kubuntu dvd? its not there?
[05:50] <kkathman> not really
[05:51] <Ayide1> theres o way to downlaod the sources ecept apt-get?
[05:51] <Ayide1> no*
[05:51] <kkathman> thats why I advise to install ubuntu, then put kubuntu-desktop over it..that way you get all the Gnome environment and the KDE...you always have a backup GUI
[05:52] <nikkia> Ayide1: yes
[05:52] <mart> Ayide1: what's the line for apt sources?
[05:52] <kkathman> but for smaller boxes with limited disk, kubuntu is the way to go for KDE
[05:52] <Ayide1> not sure
[05:52] <nikkia> Ayide1: if you open the base URL in your web browser, you can poke around til you find the .deb file in the 'pool'
[05:52] <Ayide1> oh okay
[05:52] <apokryphos> kkathman: and why would you not advise the opposite? :/
[05:52] <kkathman> mart: you looking for sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:52] <Ayide1> whats the kubunutu/ubuntu pool then?
[05:53] <kkathman> apokryphos: advise what opposite
[05:53] <apokryphos> kkathman: i.e. that someone install kubuntu, and then get ubuntu-desktop ;-)
[05:53] <mart> kkathman: no, it's ok, Ayide1 is trying to get a package url from an apt url
[05:53] <apokryphos> though if it's just for backup I'd probably prefer xfce :D
[05:53] <Ayide1> can someone give me the pool link?
[05:53] <moebious> well, i used in the past slackware and debian, and on both of those, kde and gnome were both installed, and you could change from one desktop environment to the other.. but from what i see in the (k)ubuntu websites, its more of a policy, for ubuntu to not have kde and kubuntu gnome...
[05:53] <kkathman> apokryphos: right...absolutely true if you installed from the kubuntu disk.
[05:54] <pointwood> anyone had success with upgrading to breezy from hoary + kde 3.5beta?
[05:54] <nikkia> Ayide1: in particular, try something like: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/
[05:54] <Ayide1> does kubuntu have its own pool? or will the main debian pool work?
[05:54] <Ayide1> okay
[05:54] <Ayide1> is that for 5.10?
[05:55] <Ayide1> 9 NEED EXACT SOURCES IM NOT LOOKING TO RECOMPILE ONLY TO INSTALL A DRIVER
[05:55] <nikkia> if 5.10 uses 2.6.12, yes
[05:55] <kkathman> Ayide1: kubuntu is really just ubuntu base with KDE from what I understand..that may have changed in breezy
[05:55] <Ayide1> ooops *(lol) caps
[05:55] <nikkia> Ayide1: the repositories don't quite work like that
[05:56] <nikkia> basically, you have a list of packages for a specific distro, that point to files within the pool, a file in the pool can belong to several distros/versions
[05:56] <nikkia> !info linux-source breezy
[05:56] <nikkia> and it looks like there's no linux-source metapackage
[05:57] <apokryphos> kernel-source might be what you want
[05:57] <paelscrit> well i just got kubuntu installed for the first time
[05:57] <brosioz> setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[05:57] <brosioz>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[05:57] <brosioz>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[05:58] <paelscrit> looks nice
[05:58] <brosioz> anyone could help ?
[05:58] <apokryphos> paelscrit: cool :)
[05:58] <boerni> hi
[05:58] <mart> brosioz: this isn't by any chance a very new computer?
[05:58] <Howdy125> Just get build-essentials and the correct kernel headers ...
[05:59] <mart> brosioz: (I take it you are running as root)
[05:59] <brosioz> ofcourse
[06:00] <Ayide1> kubuntu uses Linux <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:00] <mart> brosioz: I've seen this problem recently on a Intel 9xx box
[06:00] <Ayide1> i only see 2.6.12 in the repositoies
[06:01] <Ayide1> is it the same?
[06:01] <nikkia> Ayide1: probably
[06:01] <mart> brosioz: Intel 915 host bridge?
[06:02] <brosioz> mart, i think the problem is with
[06:02] <larsivi> What's the best way to use KDE 3.5 in Kubuntu?
[06:02] <brosioz> ide_scsi module
[06:02] <brosioz> fuck this modul
[06:02] <Ayide1> wait would this be it linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23_all.deb?
[06:02] <Ayide1> would that be the right source?
[06:03] <Ayide1> for 5.10?
[06:04] <Ayide1> nm it isnt : (
[06:06] <kkathman> Ayide1: When I upgraded, my kernel was set at 2.6.12-9
[06:06] <kkathman> and KDE 3.4.3
[06:07] <Ayide1> okay
[06:08] <Ayide1> thanks
[06:08] <Ayide1> so that IS the right kernel
[06:08] <Ayide1> should I get the headers aswell?
[06:11] <Ayide1> http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-headers-2.6.12-9_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb and these should be the right headers
[06:11] <Ayide1> okay well thanks
[06:14] <moebious> anyone can check whats the size of kubuntu-desktop package of 5.10?
[06:14] <apokryphos> moebious: a few kb I'd imagine
[06:15] <apokryphos> !info kubuntu-desktop
[06:15] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[06:15] <spiral> hi
[06:16] <mart> moebious: about 12K
[06:16] <mart> moebious: 8K maybe
[06:16] <helpme> where can i order kubuntu breezy 5.10 dvd? i cant seem to find it ANYWHERE!  Plz help!
[06:16] <apokryphos> you can't
[06:17] <helpme> can't??? why?
[06:17] <apokryphos> helpme: no shipit for kubuntu, unfortunately.
[06:19] <chase> Hay, im having problem running KDE with my laptop display and a external monitor. Ive tryed to configure xorg and ive been in the display settings but both monitors identify as monitor 2
[06:20] <kkathman> apokryphos: no fair...no breezy party here :(
[06:20] <apokryphos> kkathman: where you at?
[06:20] <kkathman> Dallas area, Texas
[06:20] <chase> they are also running the same resolution, where as i need the laptop to be monitor 1 and the external display to be monitor 2, with a diffrent resoltution
[06:20] <soebbi> Does someone know how to use katapult?
[06:20] <chase> does anyone know how to do this in kubutut
[06:20] <chase> ^kbuntu
[06:20] <kkathman> apokryphos: I'll buy you a virtual beer  :)
[06:21] <apokryphos> cheers!
[06:21] <mart> soebbi: Alt-Space
[06:21] <soebbi> mart: Tut garnix
[06:21] <kkathman> apokryphos: isnt there a way to get your system updated automatically now? I thought I heard someone mention that?
[06:22] <soebbi> mart: Doesn't do anything (Sorry =)
[06:22] <apokryphos> adept update manager or something; haven't tried it yet
[06:22] <mart> soebbi: it is running?
[06:22] <kkathman> apokryphos: I just launched adept manually, there were a few updates.. I think it was in the Breezy Update Notes...I'll check
[06:22] <soebbi> mart: according to ProcessTable, yes
[06:23] <apokryphos> I think it is, yeah.
[06:24] <kkathman> apokryphos: ahh the autoupdater is gnome only it looks like
[06:25] <mart> soebbi: might be worth deleting it's configuration file in your home dir
[06:25] <soebbi> mart: One sek...
[06:25] <kkathman> It says "start-notifier" but have no idea what that is
[06:25] <helpme> can't I order it from any other online shop??
[06:25] <kkathman> no biggie
[06:26] <woddf2> Haldo
[06:26] <apokryphos> To help keep your system current, adept-updater checks to see which packages have changed and makes it easy to download and install the latest fixes.
[06:26] <soebbi> mart: There is no config-file in my home
[06:26] <apokryphos> (from the Kubuntu-anouncement)
[06:27] <_Admin1> you
[06:27] <apokryphos> ah; simplistic, but looks ok. Should satisfy all those that love it
[06:28] <apokryphos> though it has no tray icon, which IIRC is what people love about the gnome one :/
[06:29] <woddf2> Here is what lsmod outputs: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393554
[06:32] <woddf2> Here is what lshw outputs: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393561
[06:33] <woddf2> Here is what lsmod outputs: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393554
[06:33] <woddf2> Here is what lshw outputs: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393561
[06:33] <kkathman> Nice - gkrellm is standard now
[06:34] <apokryphos> woddf2: quit flooding
[06:34] <apokryphos> kkathman: yuck! :P
[06:34] <woddf2> Does anyone know how to configure a Sound Blaster 16 sound card?
[06:34] <woddf2> I'm on Kubuntu 5.10.
[06:34] <paelscrit> anyone know if i have to have a router to hook up my cable internet to my kubuntu box and windows box or can i just use like a switch
[06:35] <paelscrit> id prefer not to have a router
[06:35] <duende> a switch should work fine
[06:35] <paelscrit> okay cool
[06:35] <duende> i think, it migh depend on your isp
[06:35] <paelscrit> thnx
[06:35] <paelscrit> oh
[06:35] <paelscrit> hmm..
[06:35] <kkathman> paelscrit: usually that works fine, does for me
[06:35] <duende> i know with my old isp, i used to plug the modem into a hub, and all computers connected would get their own ip :)
[06:36] <woddf2> Does anyone know how to configure a Sound Blaster 16 sound card?
[06:36] <paelscrit> you have cable kkathman?
[06:36] <humbolt> I have a intel hda sound card and somehow I do not get how to make select the micro source for recording. I choose capture on the mic and turn on capture, but that does not seem to be it.
[06:37] <kkathman> duende: yah, I have DSL, no diff really than cable, and I have a wireless router with one line to an 8-port hub... each computer gets its own internal IP and the router has a built in hard firewall with a NAT
[06:37] <god-zero> apokryphos: beta1 packs? beta 1  too buggy for you to  concuder  it even as a beta?
[06:37] <woddf2> I'm on Kubuntu 5.10.
[06:37] <apokryphos> god-zero: no packs for amd64, and PPC. Got kde svn, but I'd really rather just use packs 8)
[06:37] <kkathman> paelscrit: Only diff between cable and DSL sometimes is that Cable uses static IP while DSL uses PPPoE and dynamic...but thats not usually a prob
[06:38] <duende> kkathman: i mean, each computer got an external ip.  i only had it setup like that for a breif time
[06:38] <apokryphos> woddf2: congrats!!
[06:38] <woddf2> Does anyone know how to configure a Sound Blaster 16 sound card?
[06:38] <paelscrit> well i dont want a router is the whole thing
[06:38] <kkathman> duende: ahhh ok...I dont do that for security reasons
[06:38] <god-zero> apokryphos: oh ya, sorry
[06:38] <paelscrit> i just want like my modem to a switch to the two computer
[06:38] <duende> yeah, don't blame you there :)
[06:38] <apokryphos> woddf2: please stop asking the same question a zillion times. If someone is able/willing to help, they will.
[06:38] <kkathman> paelscrit: you cant use just a hub
[06:38] <woddf2> Oh
[06:38] <paelscrit> oh okay..
[06:38] <paelscrit> so i have to have a router
[06:38] <woddf2> I'll just wait until someone answers.
[06:39] <kkathman> paelscrit: unless you intend on using one computer at a time
[06:39] <god-zero> apokryphos: forgot  U R nonX86
[06:39] <paelscrit> nah
[06:39] <duende> woddf2: lsmod | grep snd
[06:39] <kkathman> cuz theres only 1 IP addie coming in
[06:39] <apokryphos> god-zero: as-of-late, yes :)
[06:39] <duende> woddf2: see if you have the soundblaster module loaded
[06:39] <paelscrit> gotcha, thnx
[06:39] <kkathman> the router splits that ...thats the reason it works
[06:39] <woddf2> I tried modprobe sb, does that count?
[06:39] <duende> woddf2: well, that would be for oss.  i'm assuming you want alsa
[06:39] <woddf2> Oh
[06:40] <kkathman> paelscrit: really not much diff in price...routers are around $60-80 USD and hubs are around 30-40
[06:40] <paelscrit> 60-80? are they that much?
[06:40] <paelscrit> damnit
[06:40] <duende> woddf2: modprobe snd-sb16
[06:41] <duende> woddf2: if that works, then we'll set it up to auto load
[06:42] <woddf2> modprobe snd-sb16 said: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393569
[06:42] <helpme> can i install gnome  entirely from the kubuntu dvd? is it all there on the kubuntu dvd?
[06:42] <duende> woddf2: lspci
[06:43] <apokryphos> helpme: it isn't
[06:43] <duende> woddf2: check to see what's listed there for sound card
[06:43] <duende> woddf2: should say something like Multimedia Audio controller
[06:43] <woddf2> I see no sound card: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393571
[06:44] <helpme> noooooooooooo:(
[06:44] <duende> woddf2: is this on-board sound?
[06:44] <woddf2> I don't know.
[06:44] <duende> or an add-in isa card?
[06:44] <helpme> but i think gimp, gaim & forefox are there right?
[06:44] <duende> where do you plug the speakers into?  an add-in card or the motherboard?
[06:44] <woddf2> I think it's an ISA PNP card or something.
[06:44] <duende> yikes
[06:44] <Palos> hi
[06:44] <Palos> the dvd iso is broken?
[06:44] <paelscrit> helpme i think you would just get ubuntu for that
[06:45] <duende> i don't know how to deal with ISApnp stuff anymore.  back in 98/99 i'd have no problem with it :)
[06:45] <woddf2> I plug the speakers into the card. The motherboard's sound plugs are blocked by metal.
[06:45] <paelscrit> the only difference in ubuntu and kubuntu is kubuntu uses kde as opposed to gnome, i think
[06:45] <paelscrit> im new though i just installed kubuntu today
[06:45] <duende> paelscrit: with some added kick-ass features :)
[06:45] <paelscrit> i see
[06:46] <duende> woddf2: sorry man, i've no idea about isapnp anymore.  i had to forget that stuff to make room in my head for new information
[06:46] <duende> woddf2: there should be hundreds of howtos on the internet to help
[06:46] <paelscrit> helpme i dont see any of those application
[06:46] <paelscrit> its got konqueror, konversation, and kopete
[06:46] <duende> paelscrit: what applications?
[06:46] <duende> what are you looking for?
[06:47] <paelscrit> |11:44|  [helpme]  but i think gimp, gaim & forefox are there right?
[06:47] <paelscrit> you can just download those however
[06:47] <Chambers`> hey guys, whats a good binary news leecher for kubuntu?  klibido is exactly what i want but it keeps crashing on me
[06:47] <Tm_T> akregator?
[06:47] <helpme> they are on the kubuntu dvd i think but not installed by default
[06:48] <paelscrit> oh i see
[06:48] <Tm_T> knode?
[06:48] <Chambers`> knode is for reading
[06:48] <Tm_T> hm, ok
[06:48] <paelscrit> akregator is rss feeds
[06:48] <helpme> paelscrit: add the dvd to ur sources.list and then u'll be able to get those offline i think
[06:48] <Chambers`> i need something for downloading files that has nzb support
[06:49] <Chambers`> guess there aren't too many usenet leechers that use linux :P
[06:49] <paelscrit> thnx helpme, im not sure how to do that though ;).. im a total noob, i shouldnt have even tried answereing your question
[06:49] <paelscrit> i use torrrents myself
[06:49] <Chambers`> also, before installing the latest kubuntu, do the ATI Drivers have 3d enabled?
[06:49] <helpme> anyone who did not like the new graphical bootup in breezy?
[06:50] <paelscrit> it looked cool to me
[06:50] <Chambers`> is there a faq anyone on what to do to get mp3 and dvd support working?
[06:51] <helpme> paelscrit: its very easy dude....in synaptic Edit>Add CDROM......insert dvd in ur dvd drive and ure done:)
[06:51] <paelscrit> okay i actually have a cd of the .iso install
[06:51] <paelscrit> are they on there too?
[06:52] <helpme> paelscrit: no i dont think they are on the kubuntu cd..but i guess u'll find some packages in the ubuntu breezy cd....just add ubuntu breezy cd
[06:52] <paelscrit> okay
[06:52] <paelscrit> ill check it out
[06:52] <Nomad411> Hi all..  A bit unrelated but I'm desperate..  I'm looking for a hosting place that does IMAP (with subfolders) and LDAP if possible.. Any suggestions?
[06:52] <helpme> paelscrit: im also a bit of a newbie:)
[06:53] <paelscrit> i just installed kubuntu like an hour ago though hehe
[06:53] <paelscrit> before that ive barely messed around with knoppix and ubuntu live
[06:55] <helpme> hmm..good.....i hope u love linux.....try pclinuxos 9.1 too.......its a fantastic desktop distro with everything working out of the box......suse 10 also comes with everything preinstalled:).......but for me kubuntu is best:)
[06:56] <_andrea> do, do you suggest me to install the new version on kubuntu?
[06:56] <paelscrit> yea im liking this kubuntu
[06:56] <reagleBRKLN> still trying to figure out why sound doesn't work, booted from kubuntu 5.10 live-cd where it does and looked at some things http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ezoair33.html
[06:57] <_andrea> ??
[06:57] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[06:57] <paelscrit> i actually tried installing suse 9.3 early and yast was freezing on install at format drive part
[06:57] <paelscrit> so i gave up after a while and now im on kubuntu
[06:57] <reagleBRKLN> the only diff is in live it indicates the two subdevices are 0/1 and 1/1, whereas now (install) its 1/1 1/1
[06:57] <helpme> i see......but suse 10 is getting rave reviews....
[06:57] <helpme> and so is ubuntu:)
[06:58] <paelscrit> maybe ill try 10
[06:58] <_andrea> ehI!?!? someone can say me if now the upgrade to breezy is safe?
[06:58] <paelscrit> im think i had a corrupt cd or something
[06:58] <helpme> im waiting for a kubuntu breezy review.....everyday i check out distrowatch for it:)
[06:58] <paelscrit> i dont know why it was freezing
[06:58] <helpme> did u retry?
[06:58] <_andrea> have been released officially right?
[06:58] <shogouki> usb keys are no automaticly mounted, same pb on your installations ?
[06:59] <paelscrit> yea several times
[06:59] <paelscrit> then i formatted the drive with partition magic in m windows box and retried
[06:59] <paelscrit> still froze at 0%
[06:59] <paelscrit> i gave it like 30 minutes too
[06:59] <helpme> hmm....i see
[07:00] <helpme> i guess it might be a corrupt cd/dvd but not sure
[07:00] <paelscrit> yea that was just a guess, i really have no idea
[07:00] <_andrea> qho???
[07:00] <helpme> whats ur hd size? how much uve given linux and windows?
[07:00] <paelscrit> seems no one has problems with yast
[07:00] <_andrea> The final version of Ubuntu 5.10 will be released on Oct. 13th. IS IT TRUE???
[07:01] <paelscrit> well its a seperate computer so there was no windows on it
[07:01] <paelscrit> its a 40gb
[07:01] <_andrea> can i now install the new version without problems only inserting files in thre repositories?
[07:01] <_andrea> aho?
[07:02] <helpme> _andrea: dude it has already released......r u kidding?
[07:02] <paelscrit> yea that was yesterday
[07:02] <_andrea> helpme: no, i'm not
[07:03] <helpme> _andrea: only inserting files? i didnt get what u said.......u can UPDATE ur installation if u dont wanna do clean install
[07:03] <_andrea> helpme: so i can install it safely?
[07:03] <_andrea> helpme: inserting lines in the repository file.. sorry i wrote in a bad way
[07:03] <helpme> u mean u dont wanna lose ur currently installled apps, right?
[07:04] <helpme> _andrea: no not that way dude...pop in the cd, reboot, then select fresh install or update.....as u wish
[07:04] <brosioz> hi
[07:05] <brosioz> how could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ?
[07:05] <helpme> _andrea: did u get it?
[07:05] <helpme> brosioz: hi
[07:05] <_andrea> helpme: why i can not simply upgrade from repositories?
[07:06] <_andrea> helpme: yes, you suggest me to download the new version write a bootable and upgrade from CD
[07:06] <coruja> _andrea: or your go through your sources.list and replace 'hoary' with 'breezy' and then try a dist-upgrade
[07:06] <coruja> s/your/you
[07:06] <_andrea> but why you (helpme) told me a sec ago to do not use repositories?
[07:06] <coruja> but a backup is - as always - recommended :)
[07:07] <_andrea> backup of what?
[07:07] <_andrea> of system files?
[07:07] <helpme> _andrea: yes........there are 2 ways
[07:07] <coruja> _andrea: backup of your data, and maybe of some .conf files too, at least
[07:07] <helpme> u can do either way........
[07:07] <_andrea> ( side question, how i can generate a backup?)
[07:07] <_andrea> ( is there an automated program? )
[07:08] <helpme> _andrea: do u have a seperate home partition?
[07:08] <coruja> i'm sure there is, but i don't know any by name now as i always archive myself
[07:08] <helpme> _andrea: for personal data, just copy them to cd......for proffesional backup u may use Konserve
[07:09] <helpme> Konserve is there:)
[07:09] <coruja> now i know at least one by name ;)
[07:09] <_andrea> i have different partitions, so i can simply move data from the root to one of the partitions with conserve?
[07:09] <_andrea> or you suggest me to do other things?
[07:09] <helpme> _andrea: dude...u dont need to move anything from root
[07:10] <helpme> tell me do u have any personal data stored in ur linux system?
[07:10] <_andrea> helpme: yes
[07:10] <_andrea> in my home folder... al the configurations and so on
[07:11] <helpme> then if u fear u may lose them, just copy them to another partition or cd
[07:11] <helpme> u can copy them to windows partitions
[07:11] <_andrea> and then i can simply use repositories change or again do you suggest me to use CD
[07:12] <helpme> if u do it the way coruja told u...u can never lose any personal data
[07:13] <spiral> are the backports for breezy alive ? where could I find the sources.list adresses ?
[07:13] <_andrea> helpme: so, why you told me to use the cd if the coruja way is better?
[07:13] <helpme> _andrea: is ur home folder on a seperate partition? or the same partition on which u have root?
[07:13] <coruja> in my opinion, best choice would be a fresh install (backup needed!), secondly cd upgrade, then an upgrade by dist-upgrade...
[07:13] <_andrea> same
[07:14] <helpme> _andrea: both ways are good.....but if u have home & root on same partition...then use repos
[07:15] <_andrea> ok tnx for the help
[07:15] <helpme> and dont do fresh install or update.....u CAN do fresh install but u must copy ur personal data somewhere bcoz u'll lose them
[07:15] <coruja> ...and in terms of convenience, the order will be from last to first ;)
[07:15] <helpme> _andrea: ur welcome:)
[07:15] <_andrea> fresh install or update?
[07:16] <_andrea> when i want to move my home to another partition how can i do?
[07:16] <motyR> Hi there:)
[07:16] <brosioz> how could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ?
[07:16] <_andrea> simply removing the phisical direcotry and creating a symbolic link
[07:16] <paelscrit> does kubuntu seem slow to anyone else?
[07:16] <_andrea> in the same place?
[07:16] <paelscrit> maybe its jsut my computer
[07:16] <helpme> _andrea: no no
[07:17] <_andrea> ( fast please i have to go to classes ....... ;P tnx)
[07:17] <motyR> is ther away to let usplash all over the screen? (1024x768)
[07:17] <katja> Hello
[07:18] <helpme> _andrea: its a bit complicated to transfer home to another partition...jut wait a min i'll give u a link
[07:20] <helpme> _andrea: http://wiki.kanotix.net/CoMa.php?CoMa=HomeDirectory
[07:21] <_andrea> tnx again
[07:21] <_andrea> bye
[07:21] <_andrea> azz i'm lagte
[07:23] <MarcC> can someone tell me how to enable the terminal window that you can attach to the bottom of konqueror?
[07:24] <Nomad411> New question then. :)   Is anyone here familiar with the latest IMAP servers?
[07:28] <nikkia> guess he didn't really want to know
[07:29] <helpme> nobody answered thats why
[07:30] <nikkia> helpme: in 2 minutes
[07:30] <nikkia> helpme: that is NOT a reasonable amount of time to give up after here
[07:30] <nikkia> many of us have other things we're doing, you know
[07:30] <BlankB> Like having to hit reset after attempting to burn a data dvd.
[07:31] <Tm_T> BlankB: =)
[07:31] <helpme> yeah he may have been asking many times or many places.must be a newbie
[07:31] <Tm_T> helpme: btw your nick is quite annoying
[07:31] <helpme> like me:)     newbies have less patience:)
[07:31] <Tm_T> ;)
[07:31] <helpme> Tm_T: lol
[07:31] <nikkia> helpme: his loss
[07:31] <nikkia> helpme: and probably your loss, next time you ask a question i might be able to answer
[07:32] <shogouki> damn am i the only guy to have pb with usb key automounting ?
[07:32] <ubuntu> hi
[07:32] <helpme> hmm..i usually do hang around longer after  a question...unless ive to go somewhere:)
[07:32] <helpme> hi
[07:32] <helpme> shogouki: maybe;)
[07:33] <Tm_T> shogouki: propably not, media:/ has issues with hal
[07:33] <BlankB> shogouki: I have problems with a firewire drive automounting.
[07:33] <helpme> i have problems with a lovelife automounting
[07:33] <helpme> ;)
[07:33] <duce> lol
[07:34] <Tm_T> ehm
[07:34] <Lothar> Anybody here knows if live CD Ubuntu is able to read a MacOS file system harddisc?
[07:34] <pointwood> anyone had success with upgrading to breezy from hoary + kde 3.5beta?
[07:35] <Tm_T> pointwood: me
[07:35] <pointwood> Tm_T: it just worked?
[07:35] <Tm_T> pointwood: not just
[07:36] <pointwood> k
[07:36] <Tm_T> but I did it weeks ago
[07:36] <Tm_T> I bet it'll be much easier now
[07:36] <pointwood> and you had kde 3.5beta installed?
[07:36] <Tm_T> yes
[07:36] <pointwood> and just did a plain dist-upgrade?
[07:36] <Tm_T> yes
[07:37] <Tm_T> ofcourse changed my sources.list first
[07:37] <pointwood> yeah
[07:37] <pointwood> just change everything to breezy...
[07:37] <pointwood> you still run kde 3.5 beta?
[07:38] <paelscrit> picture of karl rove from a few hours ago: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/10/14/national/14cnd-rove.583.jpg
[07:38] <paelscrit> oops wrong window
[07:38] <pointwood> heh
[07:43] <helpme> paelscrit: whos karl rove?
[07:43] <paelscrit> george bush's top advisor
[07:44] <paelscrit> he's in trouble for leaking a cia agent
[07:44] <paelscrit> kind of, nothing will happen to him of course
[07:44] <paelscrit> he got caught though
[07:47] <BlankB> I am having as many problems as if I had done dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda 8(
[07:48] <helpme> what are security updates? can i do without them? are they really needed?
[07:49] <hein> Anybody got a wlassistant package for breezy for me, by chance?
[07:49] <kkathman> Tm_T: o/
[07:50] <rumo> helpme, it would be better if you install the security updates
[07:50] <rumo> do you have a slow internetconnection, helpme?
[07:55] <helpme> rumo: yep....and limited one
[07:57] <BlankB> I cant even work 5 minutes without a crash. 3 problems. 1. Machine lockup 2. what I write to cd/dvd is not what i get back. 3. firefox crashes without warning.
[07:58] <strike4ce> I downloaded Wireless assistant and it went to ark,  How do I install it?
[07:58] <strike4ce> I extracted the file to my desktop
[07:58] <kkathman> BlankB: did you upgrade or install clean?
[07:58] <BlankB> clean install.
[07:59] <kkathman> Odd.
[07:59] <BlankB> #1 the lockups is probably the video driver. Using mga from their website.
[07:59] <kkathman> Dunno...I upgraded from Hoary and have had no probs
[07:59] <kkathman> possibly true
[07:59] <BlankB> but #2 what I write out is different that what I get back. thats bad.
[07:59] <kkathman> BlankB: The kernel changed versions so your driver might not be for that kernel
[08:00] <kkathman> BlankB: that sounds like a driver prob too
[08:01] <BlankB> yep. and since I cant run for more than a few minutes without a lockup. It makes it hard to debug.
[08:02] <strike4ce> I downloaded Wireless assistant and it went to ark,  How do I install it?
[08:02] <kkathman> BlankB: I think I would start with those two drivers and check for compatibility with the 2.6.12-9 kernel
[08:03] <BlankB> strike4ce: is it a .deb that you got?
[08:03] <strike4ce> BlankB: its called wireless assistant
[08:04] <strike4ce> BlankB: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21832
[08:04] <alexmic> hi all
[08:04] <BlankB> strike4ce: I am not familiar enough with it to have context for your question.
[08:05] <Chambers`> anyone have an ipod working with kubuntu?  I can go into /media/ipod but when I go to ipod:/ it says it can't be found
[08:06] <alexmic> I am right nows dowloading the packets for a dist-upgrade. Though synaptic tells me that kubuntu-desktop will be removed. I have juste the main rep. Is it normal
[08:07] <BlankB> strike4ce: if you downloaded the deb just do dpkg -i file.deb
[08:08] <Chambers`> how do i change the root password?
[08:09] <BlankB> !root
[08:09] <ubotu> methinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:11] <alexmic> I am right nows dowloading the packets for a dist-upgrade. Though synaptic tells me that kubuntu-desktop will be removed. I have juste the main rep. Is it normal
[08:12] <Chambers`> thanks BlankB
[08:13] <duce> Are here people having also trouble with GnuPG and kmail?
[08:13] <Chambers`> is there a tutorial on what to do to get mp3 playback support and dvd support?
[08:15] <BlankB> is there a choice of kernels on 5.10?
[08:16] <coruja> Chambers`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:16] <`Nomad> Chambers:  if for mp3 support you mean teh ability to listen to MP3s, I had that problem and figured out to install some engines for Amarok this morning.  Use adept and search for your player's name, you might find options ot add ro it
[08:16] <Chambers`> thanks
[08:17] <hein> uh, what's the name of the kernel source package?
[08:18] <gibarian> does anyone get the message about FATAL ext2 module not found when booting the latest kernel on 5.10?
[08:18] <duce> Chambers` - for example u can install xine and lame for amarok
[08:18] <coruja> hein: try apt-cache search kernel source
[08:20] <MachineScrew> can any one help me with a pxe boot install
[08:20] <hein> coruja: Did, and installed 'linux-source-2.6.12 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.12 with Ubuntu patches', however, all it seems to do is put a .tar.bz2 of 2.6.12 vanilla into /usr/src
[08:20] <MachineScrew> can any one help me with a pxe boot install
[08:22] <bengross> hi please help me i need to mount my windows volumes
[08:22] <BlankB> so 2.6.12 is the only kernel choice without recompile etc.
[08:22] <BlankB> ?
[08:23] <Chambers`> coruja: so which ones do i enable exactly?  I have a bunch of commented out universe and multivers's
[08:23] <Chambers`> breezy universa, breezy-backports main, breezy-security
[08:24] <coruja> Chambers`: the best is to have all official repos enabled
[08:24] <hein> coruja: ah, 'apt-get source' on the actual kernel image
[08:24] <coruja> hein: then you got what you wanted, or not?
[08:24] <hein> coruja: nah, I wanted it with the patches
[08:25] <Chambers`> thanks
[08:25] <coruja> ah, ok
[08:26] <libben> how do i check if i have the breezy fully updated
[08:27] <Chambers`> hmm..this wiki is for ubuntu and not kubuntu, it's confusing :(
[08:27] <bengross> how do in stall programs on kubuntu
[08:27] <Chambers`> so is marillat ok to set up as a source?
[08:27] <bengross> i need to burn some toast
[08:27] <duce> bengross - do u like to use a gui or konsole?
[08:27] <coruja> libben: when apt-get tells you that there's nothing to update, your system up to date
[08:28] <coruja> +is
[08:28] <bengross> simple konsole is ok
[08:28] <coruja> Chambers`: i prefer downloading only the needed files and installing myself
[08:28] <libben> yeah. but ive been testing breezy all the way. and hitted reload and mark all changes every day allmost
[08:28] <bengross> i dont know ubuntu, i used to use mandrake
[08:28] <libben> and now its released and im not sure if i have the all updated thing
[08:28] <MachineScrew> can any one help me with a pxe boot install
[08:29] <coruja> libben: these days, round release time, there are always lots of updates
[08:29] <Chambers`> coruja: is there a step by step tutorial on how to do it for Breezy Kubuntu? or is this wiki i am looking at for ubuntu up to date?
[08:29] <duce> bengross - use apt-get
[08:30] <Chambers`> grrr
[08:30] <duce> apt-get update for updating the database, apt-cache search 'text' for search and apt-get install'text' to install.
[08:30] <coruja> Chambers`: in that case searching forums would be best i think, you'll find lots of hints and more there...
[08:30] <Chambers`> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-thom" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root" kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[08:31] <duce> bengross - and don't forget the sudo in front of
[08:31] <bengross> then what? how do i do a search
[08:31] <Chambers`> bleh
[08:31] <duce> bengross - apt-get update for updating the database, apt-cache search 'text' for search and apt-get install'text' to install.
[08:31] <Chambers`> brand new clean install and Kate won't even start
[08:31] <Chambers`> are you sure this is final release..lol
[08:31] <duce> bengross - type in apt-get and u get a short help
[08:32] <bengross> yeh, suppose i want to download bit torrent
[08:34] <BlankB> So i restored to a fresh install of brezzy. My machine freezes when doing: md5sum kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[08:35] <Juerd> BlankB: It can take a while. How do you know it has totally freezed?
[08:36] <BlankB> cause all hdd activity ceases. And nothing responds. Not even a mouse. Plus I let it sit like that for 10 minutes.
[08:36] <tenco> hi! i have problems with kpdf and xpdf
[08:36] <tenco> when i make pdf docs with pdflatex...
[08:37] <bengross> i installed bit torrent icant find it
[08:37] <Juerd> BlankB: It could be that your system is incapable of high harddisk throughputs
[08:37] <tenco> the pdf file is displayed with ugly font in kpdf
[08:37] <tenco> ...and xpdf
[08:37] <tenco> but printouts are fine
[08:37] <Juerd> BlankB: Does it also freeze if you do: cat /dev/zero > zerofile.tmp
[08:38] <tenco> is it better to install gs-afpl instead of gs-gpl? is that the problem?
[08:38] <Juerd> tenco: That usually means you used a font that is known to your printer, but not to your computer.
[08:38] <BlankB> juerd: unfortunately since it keep crashing im doing a restore of 5.04 right now. Is there something about high throughput that I should know about.?
[08:38] <bengross> i installed bittorrent how do i run it?
[08:39] <Juerd> BlankB: I had it years ago with a broken IDE controller, and recently with a broken driver for a working IDE controller.
[08:39] <tenco> Juerd: is use the normal KOMA-package
[08:39] <tenco> *KOMA-script
[08:39] <Juerd> tenco: What font is it?
[08:39] <jagodragon> i forgot my pas word for nickserv can any one held
[08:39] <tenco> Juerd: i dont know?
[08:39] <Juerd> tenco: That makes it very hard for me to help you. Sorry.
[08:40] <BlankB> Hmm...I dont really get many kernel choices with breezy. It works great in 5.04
[08:40] <tenco> Juerd: i dont care about fonts much. its serif for normal text and sans serif for sections
[08:40] <tenco> *section-headings
[08:40] <Juerd> tenco: If you don't care about fonts much, then what is the problem?
[08:40] <tenco> Juerd: they are displayed the wrong way in kpdf and xpdf
[08:41] <Juerd> What's wrong about it?
[08:41] <tenco> Juerd: e.g. "z" isnt as tall as "u"
[08:41] <Juerd> It may be an ugly font
[08:41] <Juerd> But if you haven't specified any font, it's practically free to choose
[08:41] <tenco> i made the pdf with latex
[08:42] <tenco> i used the standard-font which the koma-script package specified
[08:42] <Juerd> Sorry, I cannot help you
[08:42] <Juerd> Maybe someone else
[08:42] <Juerd> afk
[08:42] <tenco> and its printed out with a pretty font
[08:42] <tenco> Juerd: ok, np
[08:43] <hussam> do I need to keep xpdf or is kpdf enough? also does Kpdf require xpdf?
[08:44] <BlankB> juerd: luckily its not a kubuntu problem I get the exact same freeze using knoppix 4.0.2 using the same(nearly) kernel.
[08:47] <evilmegaman> how do I install java exactly? I installed the sun java .bin file in /usr/java, but when I do java --version it says gij or something :-/
[08:47] <BlankB> So anyone have any idea why my machine would be perfectly stable without a crash in several months using kernel 2.6.10-5-386 under kubuntu 5.04 and now under breezy with kernel 2.6.12-9-386 its crashes every time I do anything io related.
[08:48] <bengross> how do i mount my windows partitions?
[08:49] <duce> bengross - use mount
[08:49] <BlankB> Can the kernel in (k)ubuntu breezy be downgraded to 2.6.10? Are there any problems associated with doing that?
[08:49] <duce> bengross - or System Settings-> Disk&Filesystems
[08:50] <bengross> my settings doesnt list disk and filesystems
[08:51] <duce> then use mount
[08:51] <BlankB> !windowsdrives
[08:51] <ubotu> [windowsdrives]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:52] <jrattner1> When placing my memory stick in KDE gives me the following error
[08:52] <bengross> i typed mount and it listed some stuff
[08:52] <jrattner1> The file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.
[08:52] <bengross> /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[08:52] <bengross> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[08:52] <bengross> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[08:52] <bengross> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[08:52] <bengross> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[08:52] <bengross> /dev on /.dev type unknown (rw,bind)
[08:52] <bengross> none on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=5M,mode=0755)
[08:52] <bengross> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[08:53] <duce> bengross - man mount - for example mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows -t ntfs
[08:53] <BlankB> bengross: dont copy paste here use a pastebin
[08:53] <evilmegaman> anyone have any idea on how to get java working?
[08:53] <Juerd> BlankB: It could be that before, you had a driver that didn't support your hardware well, and your system was performing sub-optimal because of that
[08:53] <Juerd> BlankB: And now, you have a driver that lets your hardware perform the way it is supposed to, but your hardware appears to be unable to handle it
[08:54] <Juerd> BlankB: Or, something broke in recent kernels.
[08:54] <bengross> whats a pastebin
[08:54] <BlankB> The thing that makes it odd is that those tests were dont on a firewire drive. So I am not sure what hardware to look at.
[08:54] <BlankB> bengross: see the /topic of the channel http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/
[08:54] <Juerd> bengross: A web application where you can store a small snippet of text, so that others can see it too.
[08:55] <duce> bengross -  | Don't flood the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:55] <Juerd> bengross: It allows you to share configuration and output, without having to flood a chat channel with lots of lines.
[08:55] <Chambers`> so hey, how do i get to the new kde software screen that the site was talking about?
[08:55] <Juerd> Chambers`: "the site"?
[08:56] <Chambers`> yeah, kubuntu's site
[08:56] <Juerd> Chambers`: The site, including wiki, is huge. What page?
[08:56] <bengross> i did this stuff https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:56] <jagodragon> can any one help me with java plugins
[08:57] <Chambers`> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/breezy-release.php
[08:57] <Chambers`> the kde system settings is supposed to be different
[08:58] <Juerd> Chambers`: There's a system button in the task bar area
[08:58] <Juerd> Chambers`: Click it and choose "Settings"
[08:58] <gdh> Chambers`: Hm, yes I did think that - when in fact all I get in 'settings' is the settings:/ URL in Konq
[08:59] <gdh> showing text-based category browsing
[08:59] <gdh> hardly a technology leap :)
[08:59] <conn> is there a way to remove ALL the packages that are install from "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" ?
[08:59] <jrattner1> I'm also having trouble with removable media, when I insert my jump drive  a page in conqueror comes up saying: The file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.
[08:59] <Chambers`> heh, looks the same to me :P  it is the original Ubuntu that has a settings similar to MacOSX?
[09:00] <evilmegaman> anyone have any idea for getting Sun java to work?
[09:00] <Sgep> Is it now feasible to upgrade to breezy w/ apt-get?
[09:00] <BlankB> sgep: make a backup first. 8)
[09:00] <bengross> that worked thanks
[09:01] <Sgep> Hmm?
[09:01] <Chambers`> ok, the test..to see if transferring songs to my ipod works
[09:01] <Sgep> hi slick
[09:01] <slick> hi
[09:01] <slick> I got a question
[09:02] <slick> how do you show the sidebar for konquer
[09:02] <slick> the sidebar I am talking about is the one with buttons such as apps, histroy, etc... I installed kmetabar but I have no clue how to show the sidebar
[09:03] <Juerd> slick: F9
[09:03] <slick> well that was quick
[09:03] <slick> thanks
[09:04] <Juerd> You're welcome
[09:04] <Chambers`> grr
[09:04] <conn> hey, I installed kubuntu breezy but when I installed firefox, there was a problem with the theme (it does not respect the kde or gtk settings).. for example, visiting www.google.com shows ugly buttons and radio buttons that don't belong to the theme. Any idea how to fix this?
[09:04] <frank23> conn: you want to revert to kubuntu-desktop only?
[09:04] <Chambers`> says access denied when trying to transfer songs to my ipod
[09:05] <conn> frank23: yes, I installed ubuntu-desktop because I wanted to test the font settings in gnome, but now I don't want to keep the ubuntu packages, just go back to the standard kubuntu install
[09:05] <tenco> Juerd: acroread does it right
[09:06] <frank23> conn: the only way I know how to do that is to ininstall some gtklibs to get rid of all GNOME programs and then reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[09:06] <hussam> do I need to keep xpdf for kpdf to function? Does Kpdf require xpdf?
[09:06] <Juerd> conn: See apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop
[09:06] <da_bon_bon> i need to get rid of gnome .. how do i do that ?
[09:06] <Juerd> conn: That shows the packages it consists of (depends on)
[09:06] <Juerd> conn: Remove those.
[09:06] <Juerd> da_bon_bon: Same as conn
[09:07] <da_bon_bon> Juerd: remove each and every one by one ?
[09:07] <conn> Juerd ad frank23, thanks. I'll check the dependencies and remove that way
[09:07] <bengross> im downloading madwifi but the file is huge
[09:07] <Juerd> da_bon_bon: All that you want gone.
[09:07] <da_bon_bon> cant do i --remove-with-deps ?
[09:07] <bengross> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10_<IP_ADDRESS>.orig.tar.gz
[09:07] <Juerd> da_bon_bon: I do not know
[09:07] <frank23> bengross: madwifi comes with ubuntu
[09:08] <da_bon_bon> Juerd: someone told me to remove libgtk -- but that removes gaim and firefox too :(
[09:08] <Juerd> da_bon_bon: Don't do that.
[09:08] <frank23> da_bon_bon: well if you don't mind redownloading stuff, yuo can just reinstall kubuntu-desktop afterwards
[09:09] <da_bon_bon> ok..
[09:10] <da_bon_bon> would i be better of doing a clean kubuntu install ?
[09:10] <jrattner1> how do i restart the kicker
[09:10] <frank23> da_bon_bon: its not necessary. after you install kubuntu-desktop, it will be like a fresh install
[09:10] <da_bon_bon> ok.
[09:11] <frank23> da_bon_bon: although if you have dialup, do the fresh install ;-)
[09:11] <Juerd> jrattner1: First, kill it. (ctrl+alt+esc, then click on kicker)
[09:11] <humbolt> can I run into trouble if I setup postfix as my private smtp server and use it for mail delivery, while I am behind a NATing Router?
[09:11] <Juerd> jrattner1: Then, start it again. (alt+f2, type "kicker")
[09:11] <da_bon_bon> lol, frank23
[09:11] <humbolt> and how is that if I just use the sendmail command?
[09:11] <Chambers`> hey guys, any idea when transfering songs to my ipod I get an access denid error?
[09:11] <jrattner1> sounds good
[09:11] <da_bon_bon> frank23: i am on breezy .. but server are so slow that i will do it on sunday only
[09:11] <Juerd> jrattner1: Not all applets and icons may come back.
[09:11] <m0ns00n> Eveningf
[09:12] <frank23> da_bon_bon: yeah servers will be slow for a few days
[09:12] <Juerd> jrattner1: If that is a problem, restart KDE
[09:12] <humbolt> Chambers: type in mount and ls -l the dir you mounted the ipod to
[09:12] <humbolt> Chambers: check the permissions
[09:13] <conn> Juerd: I figuerd apt-get remove gnome* would do roughly the equivalent, the elected packages for removal seemed correct
[09:13] <bengross> i cant find madwifi
[09:13] <Chambers`> drwx------  5 thom thom 4096 2008-12-26 21:42 iPod_Control
[09:13] <Chambers`> here's the wierd part
[09:13] <frank23> bengross: its included in linux-restricted-modules
[09:13] <frank23> bengross: why did you want to download it?
[09:13] <Chambers`> -rwx------  1 thom thom  296 2004-12-29 18:24 WMPInfo.xml
[09:14] <Chambers`> so i have access to it
[09:14] <Chambers`> don't know why it gives me an error
[09:14] <Juerd> conn: It's not entirely the same. Not all packages begin with gnome
[09:14] <Chambers`> btw, typing ipod:/ on konq says ipod can't be found :/
[09:14] <slick> how do you launch katapult?
[09:15] <bengross> madwifi for my wifii driver?
[09:15] <conn> Juerd: yes but it removes the base gnome packages, and packages that relied on that are removed too.. for example, vino, gaim, nautilus - they were all selected
[09:16] <frank23> bengross: do lsmod | grep ath    and if ath_pci is there, you already have the module loaded
[09:17] <Chambers`> any ideas?  Is my fstab entry correct?
[09:17] <frank23> bengross: I have an atheros chipset (that uses madwifi) and I didn't have to configure anything to get my card working
[09:17] <Chambers`> This is my fstab - /dev/sda        /media/ipod     vfat    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[09:18] <Chambers`> i don't know why it's not working
[09:18] <bengross> why isnt it the same for me?
[09:19] <Chambers`> maybe i need to format it first?
[09:19] <frank23> bengross: I mean the hardware was working automatically, I still needed to configure the network myself
[09:19] <bengross> ok how do i configure the network?
[09:19] <Chambers`> no one in here with an ipod?
[09:19] <Sgep> Can the breezy install CD be used to upgrade?
[09:19] <frank23> bengross: what did lsmod | grep ath give you?
[09:20] <frank23> bengross: System Settings -> Network Settings -> Administrator mode
[09:21] <frank23> If you have an atheros chip in your card, you should see ath0 in the Interface list
[09:21] <libben> how do i check what dvd burner i have
[09:21] <libben> want a command
[09:21] <Juerd> libben: cdrecord -scanbus
[09:21] <Girth> hi can someone help with a problem i have with kde su root access?
[09:21] <Juerd> Girth: State the problem. You'll find out if we're able to help.
[09:22] <Juerd> Chambers`: Shouldn't it be sda1 instead of sda?
[09:22] <da_bon_bon> lol, Juerd
[09:22] <reagle> FRACK. hosed my partitions cause 5.10 won't install "Unable to install initrd tools"
[09:22] <bengross> wireless?
[09:22] <reagle> 5.04 doesn't have this problem
[09:22] <Juerd> reagle: Were you installing from cd?
[09:23] <Girth> ok i have just installed latest breezy. i need to set up static ip address. when i try admin mode button i get eirther kde su error "su returned with an error"
[09:23] <reagle> juerd, yes
[09:23] <Chambers`> when i do mount it says sda2
[09:23] <Juerd> reagle: Did you download that cd? Have you checked if the cd was right using the md5sum?
[09:23] <bengross> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393745
[09:23] <Juerd> reagle: What do you mean by "hosed"?
[09:23] <reagle> juerd, k3b gave me a check before burning
[09:23] <Juerd> reagle: Using the md5sum?
[09:24] <gurumeditationer> is there any disadvantage to installing ubuntu then installing kubuntu-desktop compared to installing kubuntu from a kubuntu cd?
[09:24] <reagle> Juerd: i mean i'm gonna have a lot of work to do tonrestore my home partition
[09:24] <Girth> or a "conversation failed" erropr
[09:24] <Juerd> reagle: Have you tested the cd after burning as well?
[09:24] <Juerd> reagle: What does it mean, technically?
[09:24] <bengross> did u get that
[09:24] <Juerd> reagle: There is an application that can guess partition tables, based on patterns found on the drive.
[09:24] <reagle> juerd, so i suppose i should check it again
[09:24] <frank23> bengross: yeah I have exactly the same thing
[09:24] <bengross> okay cool
[09:24] <Juerd> reagle: It is called gpart, and it is on the KNOPPIX live cd.
[09:24] <bengross> i have tried administrator winfi didnt help
[09:25] <Chambers`> ok, i get an error
[09:25] <Chambers`> could not mount device
[09:25] <reagle> Juerd: lost cause since i've done so many f'd installs now
[09:25] <Juerd> gurumeditationer: Yes, it gives you gnome.
[09:25] <Chambers`> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on dev/sda1
[09:25] <reagle> just would lik to get 5.10 now.
[09:25] <frank23> do you see ath0 in the interfaces in network settings?
[09:25] <Juerd> gurumeditationer: Which isn't a problem, but leaves the system a little bloated.
[09:25] <reagle> how to check md5sum of a cd?
[09:25] <Juerd> gurumeditationer: You can remove it manually, but it's some work.
[09:26] <Juerd> reagle: md5sum /dev/hdc (or whatever cd device)
[09:26] <Juerd> reagle: Compare the output to the md5 file that you downloaded along with the iso
[09:26] <Chambers`> but i can still go to /media/ipod
[09:26] <Juerd> Or should have downloaded
[09:26] <Chambers`> what the heck?
[09:26] <Juerd> (It's not too late)
[09:26] <Juerd> Chambers`: Until something is mounted there, it's just a normal directory.
[09:27] <Chambers`> but it shows the ipod contents
[09:27] <satafterh> we need more seeds for the dvdiso
[09:27] <Juerd> Chambers`: Then it is mounted. See the output of mount
[09:27] <satafterh> if you have it share it people
[09:27] <Chambers`> but it gives me an error
[09:28] <frank23> bengross: do you see ath0 in the interfaces in network settings?
[09:28] <Chambers`> no one has an ipod here and got it working?  I'd like to know what their fstab entries are
[09:28] <bengross> yes
[09:29] <bengross> i click enable and it turns off again
[09:29] <frank23> then select it and configure interface
[09:29] <bengross> ok what do i type there
[09:30] <frank23> what do you about your router? is encryption enabled?
[09:31] <bengross> no encryption
[09:32] <frank23> bengross: do you know the ssid? (the network name)
[09:32] <jagodragon> are there a specific package to download for java?
[09:33] <m0ns00n> Yes
[09:33] <bengross> network name? i dont think theere is one
[09:33] <m0ns00n> Just take the jdk
[09:33] <m0ns00n> It includes the jre
[09:33] <m0ns00n> Which is the run time environment that's needed for java apps and the plugin
[09:33] <jagodragon> thanks
[09:33] <m0ns00n> No
[09:33] <m0ns00n> :-)
[09:34] <m0ns00n> If you need help installing the plugin for mozilla/konq/firefox just ask
[09:34] <jagodragon> thanks
[09:34] <m0ns00n> ;-)
[09:34] <Sgep> Hi all
[09:34] <bengross> shouldnt need a network name
[09:34] <m0ns00n> hi
[09:34] <Sgep> Can I make the apt-get go faster/
[09:34] <Sgep> Or somehow use the Install CD?
[09:35] <bengross> what should i type in for network name
[09:35] <Sgep> Hi mrmarcel
[09:35] <frank23> bengross: its a setting in the router.  I think you need to know that. kwifimanager can scan for networs if you don't know
[09:35] <Sgep> hi rodrigo
[09:37] <Sgep> Hi roman
[09:37] <roman> Hello here!
[09:37] <bengross> i got rid of the name
[09:37] <bengross> now its working
[09:37] <bengross> :)
[09:37] <bengross> thanks
[09:38] <mrmarcel> Hi Sgep :)
[09:38] <roman> is KDE 3.4.3 available for hoary?
[09:38] <frank23> bengross: what did you do?
[09:39] <Sgep> How do I get the apt-get to go faster?
[09:39] <bengross> hey
[09:39] <bengross> it detected it
[09:39] <Mez> roman, for breezy, yes
[09:39] <Sgep> Or can I somehow use the InstallCD?
[09:39] <bengross> but wont stay conected on the control module
[09:39] <roman> but not for hoary?
[09:40] <Corvus> roman, it's available for hoary too
[09:40] <laszlok> jagodragon: Just the 1.4 runtime?
[09:42] <roman> deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main
[09:42] <roman> deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main
[09:42] <roman> Do I get 3.4.3 if I change the number in my sources.list record deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main ??
[09:43] <evilmegaman> anyone hava any Idea on getting sun's JRE to work? I installed the .bin in /usr/java But when I do java --version the output says gij...
[09:43] <roman> Sorry for the mess, that's Ctrl+V in Konversation...
[09:43] <Sgep> Can I upgrade via the install CD?
[09:43] <Sgep> hiep
[09:44] <Chambers`> what a joke
[09:45] <Chambers`> i open up system system settings -> disk and file systems
[09:45] <Chambers`> click on administrator mode
[09:45] <Chambers`> put in my password (since root doesn't exist)
[09:45] <Chambers`> nothing
[09:45] <Chambers`> goes back to the screen where i can't do anything
[09:46] <Chambers`> so how the heck am i supposed to get administrative privledges?
[09:46] <frank23> Chambers`: it does work for me
[09:46] <Chambers`> this is a clean install
[09:46] <Chambers`> like half hour ago
[09:46] <ubuntu> hi
[09:46] <frank23> Chambers`: you can try kdesu kcontrol
[09:46] <jagodragon> just the 1.4 runtime? what do you mean
[09:47] <Chambers`> yes i can, but it should work the other way too
[09:48] <Chambers`> and, for some reason it tries to mount my ipod to /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 at the same time...when the disk and filesystem says it's on /dev/sda
[09:48] <frank23> Chambers`: I know... hoary also had problems of this kind: going to administrator mode. I think its related to the fact that ubuntu uses sudo instead of root account
[09:49] <Chambers`> i was having problems with my ipod in Suse 10, was hoping Kubuntu would fix..but there are even more problems :(
[09:49] <Chambers`> you'd think if they had problems like this before they would address them
[09:49] <frank23> Chambers`: file bug reports. Its the only way :-)
[09:49] <Chambers`> what's the point on Bug reporting if they don't address the issue?
[09:50] <Sgep> Can I get apt-get to skip a download once it started?
[09:50] <Chambers`> you said they knew about it...but it's still not fixed
[09:50] <Chambers`> :( guess i'm going back to suse :(  so frustrating
[09:50] <Chambers`> why doesn't this stuff just work..hehe
[09:50] <frank23> Chambers`: At least I think they knew.
[09:50] <Chambers`> or at least keep it in testing longer
[09:51] <frank23> Sgep: you can use ctrl-C to stop apt-get
[09:51] <m0ns00n> back
[09:51] <Sgep> Then how do I prevent the upgrade of that package
[09:52] <Sgep> And will apt-get resume where it was?
[09:52] <frank23> Sgep: for the download, yes it will resume
[09:52] <py> hi
[09:52] <frank23> Speg: what do you mean prevent the upgrade?
[09:53] <py> where can i find audio/video codecs fore breezy badger ?
[09:54] <frank23> py http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[09:55] <frank23> Sgep: then don't install vegastrike
[09:55] <Chambers`> grrr
[09:55] <Sgep> How?
[09:55] <Sgep> It's alreay installed, but I don't want it upgraded
[09:55] <frank23> Sgep: oh...
[09:56] <Sgep> Is there a way to upgrade w/ the CD?
[09:56] <frank23> You can lock a package to a specific version but I only know how to do it with synaptic
[09:56] <frank23> Sgep: yes if you add the cd to your sources.list  but I don't know what that line is
[09:57] <evilmegaman> Does kubuntu come with python 2.4 or 2.3?
[09:57] <roman> Corvus: how can I get kde 3.4.3 for hoary then?
[09:58] <frank23> evilmegaman: 2.4 by default but 2.3 is in the repos as well
[09:58] <evilmegaman> okay thanks frank23 :)
[09:59] <Corvus> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/hoary-kde343 hoary main
[10:00] <orugo> i!
[10:00] <orugo> hi
[10:00] <lwells> HI all
[10:00] <orugo> i've got the new 5.10
[10:00] <orugo> yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[10:01] <lwells> I am trying to get Kubuntu through bittorrent
[10:01] <orugo> bittorrent
[10:01] <orugo> NAH
[10:01] <orugo> download from internet!
[10:01] <gath> hello
[10:01] <lwells> I am tryting that too, so slowwwww
[10:01] <orugo>  imean
[10:01] <orugo> from http
[10:01] <orugo> oh
[10:01] <orugo> i have a 256k connection... so its always slow :P
[10:01] <orugo> hahaa
[10:02] <gath> is there any program available to show incoming mail
[10:02] <lwells> I have Cable and it says 2 days
[10:02] <gath> like korn
[10:02] <orugo> gath theres a lot of programs
[10:02] <orugo> do you have kubuntu?
[10:02] <gath> yes
[10:02] <lwells> me?
[10:02] <orugo> look in kynaptic
[10:03] <gath> i used korn in kanotix
[10:03] <gath> kynaptic?
[10:03] <orugo> i think korn is available in kubuntu too
[10:03] <orugo> maybe slipknot, haha
[10:03] <orugo> emm
[10:03] <roman> Corvus: thanks, the word "packages" was added so my sources.list broke. Getting my new KDE ...
[10:03] <orugo> kynaptic and synaptic are the packages manager
[10:04] <gath> i tried to get korn over apt, but it doesn`t work
[10:04] <orugo> oh
[10:04] <Juagar> how to play .mp3 files?
[10:04] <orugo> i dont know... i dont use pop3 mail :P
[10:04] <orugo> sry
[10:04] <Juagar> amarok says I need some codecs
[10:04] <orugo> codecs?
[10:04] <Juagar> I don't know
[10:04] <gath> korn depends on kdelibs4
[10:04] <Juagar> I can't play any media
[10:05] <Juagar> no films no mp3
[10:05] <orugo> hey
[10:05] <orugo> i have to change my repos in synaptic?
[10:05] <frank23> Juagar: get kaffeine-xine, w32codecs for movies and change the engine in the kaffeine settings
[10:05] <kkathman> greets again all :)
[10:05] <gath> orugo: kynaptic also depends on kdelibs4
[10:05] <orugo> when i switchetd from 5.04 to 5.10
[10:06] <Juagar> where can I find w32codecs?
[10:06] <frank23> http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[10:06] <Juagar> I think aren't in kynaptics
[10:06] <gath> and libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.9
[10:06] <Juagar> and for mp3?
[10:06] <icke> howdy
[10:06] <orugo> hey juagar
[10:06] <gath> and libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3)
[10:06] <orugo> whats http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[10:06] <gath> what can i do?
[10:07] <orugo> i dont know :( im not a really expert user :(
[10:07] <frank23> Juagar: get gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3
[10:08] <Juagar> I've it
[10:08] <robert2005> Hi! amd64-k8 nvidia kernel stuff is brocken amd64-generic works .. is this bug already know?
[10:08] <robert2005> n
[10:08] <frank23> orugo: you can get the .deb for w32codecs there
[10:08] <Juagar> but i don't know what happens
[10:08] <icke> even mijn session restarten
[10:08] <Juagar> I've got w32codecs
[10:08] <icke> oops
[10:08] <orugo> i dont need them :P
[10:08] <icke> wrong channel
[10:08] <frank23> Juagar: do you have kaffeine-xine?   gstreamer is not good for videos
[10:09] <Juagar> I want for mp3 as well
[10:09] <orugo> i had souind problems in 5.04 but now in 5.10 it works PERFECT
[10:09] <Juagar> now I can hear the film but i can't watch ir
[10:09] <orugo> :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[10:09] <Juagar> it
[10:09] <Juagar> I'm going to try kaffeine-xine
[10:10] <orugo> hey
[10:10] <frank23> Juagar: you have to change a setting in kaffeine to tell it to use xine also
[10:10] <orugo> i need help with the repos
[10:10] <orugo> in 5.10 what repos i have to change?
[10:10] <Juagar> ok
[10:10] <orugo> i mean i still having HOARY repos
[10:11] <frank23> orugo: you change hoary for breezy everywhere (except hoary-extras)
[10:11] <frank23> !tell orugo about upgrade2breezy
[10:11] <kkathman> orugo:  look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[10:12] <MEtaLpREs> whats the easiest way to recompile your kernel?
[10:12] <MEtaLpREs> i need to recompile it using a newer version of gcc to get this app to work properly
[10:13] <Juagar> ok, now I can watch films
[10:13] <frank23> MEtaLpREs: aren't kernels always compiled with gcc 2.95 ?
[10:13] <kkathman> good day frank23, btw :)
[10:13] <orugo> tks a lot
[10:13] <Juagar> frank23, but i haven't change anything
[10:13] <frank23> Juagar: as long as it works
[10:13] <MEtaLpREs> mine is compiled using 3.4.5
[10:14] <Juagar> I didn't the chance to change to xine engine
[10:14] <MEtaLpREs> but i need it compiled using 4.0.2
[10:14] <frank23> MEtaLpREs: you're right, its not 2.95
[10:14] <Juagar> I just have keffeine and kaffeine-gstreamer engines
[10:14] <chx> hi all
[10:14] <frank23> MEtaLpREs: why do you need it comiled with 4.0.2? is it for vmware?
[10:14] <Juagar> but I've installed kaffeine-xine....
[10:14] <MEtaLpREs> yes
[10:15] <chx> What files writes out the text (Kubuntu ...) before login on ctrl+alt+f1?
[10:15] <frank23> Juagar: the kaffeine one is actually kaffeine-xine
[10:15] <Juagar> ahhh
[10:15] <Juagar> ok
[10:15] <Juagar> thanx
[10:16] <frank23> MEtaLpREs: install gcc-3.4  then  export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4  then run the configuration script
[10:16] <chx>  /etc/issue
[10:16] <chx> I see.
[10:16] <DarkSeid> hello folks
[10:16] <DarkSeid> got me a problem
[10:16] <DarkSeid> wonder if anyone else experienced it
[10:16] <elvirolo> hi all
[10:16] <DarkSeid> upgraded from Hoary to Breezy w/ apt-get and now my USB is fubar
[10:17] <elvirolo> how do i enable musicbrainz support in amarok ?
[10:17] <DarkSeid> doesn't even mount the USB devices
[10:17] <DarkSeid> but it works fine under Gnome
[10:17] <Juagar> Amarok:some media could not be loaded (not playable)
[10:17] <Juagar> why the hell
[10:17] <DarkSeid> any ideaS?
[10:17] <Juagar> I've installed gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:17] <DarkSeid> digikam and kamera dont see the device at all
[10:18] <elvirolo> Juagar: have you tried recently to play a cd with amarok?
[10:18] <Juagar> not a cd
[10:18] <DarkSeid> konqueror doesn't show it mounted either
[10:18] <Juagar> an mp3 file
[10:18] <DarkSeid> yet it works fine under Gnome
[10:18] <Juagar> I've installed today my kubuntu 5.10
[10:18] <tenco> what was wrong with breezy preview? i updated to the preview a few days ago and everything was fine. now i updated to breezy final and my kubuntu system is unuseable! wlan doesnt work anymore and X is slow like hell!
[10:19] <DarkSeid> tenco tell me about it
[10:19] <DarkSeid> I should have stayed with Hoary
[10:19] <DarkSeid> and just used the backports
[10:19] <Riddell> hal fix is people want to test it out http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kdebase-kio-plugins_3.4.3-0ubuntu5_i386.deb
[10:19] <evilmegaman> what is a good bittorrent client that doesn't need gtk because I get an error about gtk when I use the regular one...
[10:20] <frank23> tenco: that's pretty shitty.
[10:20] <kkathman> I have noticed that KDE is a bit slower also, but for some unknown reason..other than that, everything is working fine for me
[10:20] <DarkSeid> USB devices are borked for some reason in Kubuntu
[10:20] <Juagar> what should I install to play .mp3 files with amarok? I've tryed gstreamer0.8-mad and doesn't works
[10:21] <elvirolo> Juagar: go in the peripherals tab
[10:21] <elvirolo> Juagar: no sry the filesystem tab
[10:21] <elvirolo> yeah i have many issues with breezy too
[10:21] <elvirolo> evilmegaman: ktorrent
[10:21] <elvirolo> any ideas about my prob ?
[10:21] <DarkSeid> I am playing mp3's right now with Amarok
[10:21] <elvirolo> Juagar: use xine, it's much better
[10:21] <tenco> DarkSeid: the mouse pointer moves sluggisch with a great lag and i dont know whats the problem with the wlan, the interfaces config file wasnt touched
[10:21] <frank23> Juagar: there is also an amarok-xine package
[10:21] <Kejk_PL> Juagar: you have to change engine to gstreamer in options too
[10:21] <tenco> *sluggish
[10:21] <evilmegaman> okay elvirolo, is there any ones that also have a trackerless feature like DHT and stuff?
[10:21] <Juagar> I'm gonna try
[10:22] <DarkSeid> tenco I feel your pain bro
[10:22] <elvirolo> evilmegaman: i don't know but i doubt it
[10:22] <DarkSeid> I had to install Gnome
[10:22] <DarkSeid> so I could use the GDM
[10:22] <evilmegaman> ok thanks :)
[10:22] <DarkSeid> KDM was hosing up
[10:22] <tenco> german language pack for kdevelop is missing, too
[10:22] <Juagar> kejk_PL: I've the gstreamer engine
[10:23] <DarkSeid> and now with USB support borked it seems its a bit more than X and some minor issues
[10:23] <DarkSeid> I switch over to Gnome and X is fine and fast, USB works
[10:23] <DarkSeid> kill the session and start a session in K and borked
[10:23] <MPC> is any concensus observation emerging here? ... watching #kubuntu and #ubuntu, is it safe to conclude that there are a LOT of problems with this new Breezy version? ... or is this just normal hardware issues volume?
[10:23] <Riddell> DarkSeid: I just posted the fix for USB support, testers would be good
[10:24] <tenco> seems to me like the transition from 3.4.2 -> 3.4.3 is the problem
[10:24] <DarkSeid> ok downloaded and installing now
[10:24] <Riddell> killall kded && kded  after install
[10:24] <tenco> Riddell: would test it, if my wlan would still work
[10:25] <tenco> Riddell: no net connection -> no testing
[10:25] <VR^> hey all, i burned 3 ISOs, all of which didn't work, i checked the md5sum on every one of them, burned at 2x speed, and yet, i couldnt install... i even burned some other stuff with the same cds and everything went well.
[10:25] <VR^> i'm at my wits end
[10:26] <VR^> i burned them with gnomebaker
[10:26] <icke> I just updated my Breezy Preview to 'normal' Breezy but i can not find Guidance; Where can i find it / how to run i?
[10:26] <icke> it*?
[10:26] <MEtaLpREs> what is the directory that has the C header files?
[10:27] <DarkSeid> Riddell "killall kded && kded"?
[10:27] <frank23> MEtaLpREs: for the kernel? I think the default is fine but you need linux-headers installes
[10:28] <MEtaLpREs> the default directory its giving me doesn't exsist
[10:28] <Juagar> ok amarok-xine works perfectly!
[10:28] <Juagar> thanks for all
[10:28] <MEtaLpREs> i dont have /usr/src/linux
[10:28] <Juagar> :D
[10:28] <Riddell> DarkSeid: that's what you need to run after install
[10:28] <DarkSeid> well then it doesn't work
[10:28] <DarkSeid> FATAL: DCOP communication problem!
[10:28] <DarkSeid> Aborted
[10:28] <frank23> MEtaLpREs: do you have linux-kernel-headers installed?
[10:29] <evilmegaman> anyone have any idea how to get java working using just the official sun .bin installer?
[10:29] <DarkSeid> kaboomk
[10:29] <Riddell> DarkSeid: try just running kded
[10:29] <MEtaLpREs> heh, nope i dont have it installed, i bet thats a good reason
[10:29] <DarkSeid> FATAL: DCOP communication problem!
[10:29] <DarkSeid> Aborted
[10:30] <DarkSeid> kaboom
[10:30] <Riddell> hmm, not good
[10:30] <DarkSeid> well it isn't any worse than what it was
[10:30] <DarkSeid> LOL
[10:30] <DarkSeid> at least you tried
[10:32] <DarkSeid> well if I have to use the camera I will just switch over to Gnome right quick
[10:32] <DarkSeid> ooh Riddell you also know that the KDM is flakey as all hell?
[10:33] <Riddell> DarkSeid: what's up with it?
[10:34] <DarkSeid> well for one it's an IFFY start
[10:34] <DarkSeid> sometimes it will go to the KDM on boot others it will just die and drop you to a console
[10:35] <evilmegaman> anyone have a clue on how to get java working?
[10:35] <DarkSeid> giving permission errors on Display 0:0
[10:35] <evilmegaman> I have been asking for HOURS
[10:35] <DarkSeid> its a crap shoot to say the least
[10:35] <DarkSeid> 3 out of 5 times it worked for me
[10:35] <DarkSeid> so I switched to the GDM
[10:36] <DarkSeid> thing is I didnt have this problem with the RCs
[10:36] <DarkSeid> last week 5.10 was stable as all hell
[10:36] <DarkSeid> then I did the upgrade to the final and its just blech
[10:40] <Russel-Athletic> mhhh i have a problem with katapult: in the livecd (beta 1) i had an icon and i coul configure katapult with it, but the icon is now gone (kubuntu rc1 install; now uptodate)
[10:40] <ep> Which insturctions should I follow for nvidia 3d drivers? How about method given in the unofficial ubuntu guide?  That seem simple enough.
[10:40] <apokryphos> !nvidia
[10:40] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:41] <ep> thanks
[10:42] <Russel-Athletic> somebody a solution?
[10:45] <Riddell> apokryphos: control-c
[10:45] <apokryphos> aha, thanks.
[10:45] <Riddell> Russel-Athletic: alt+space  control-c
[10:45] <Russel-Athletic> thx!
[10:46] <Riddell> which is ugly I know
[10:47] <Russel-Athletic> but why is the default behaviour not in tray?
[10:47] <apokryphos> Russel-Athletic: no point in having it there, really
[10:47] <apokryphos> it should function as an alternate to alt+f2, if you think about it (but better, of course).
[10:47] <apokryphos> it's not something we'd really ever want closed
[10:48] <Russel-Athletic> no but you want to configure it sometimes and don't run to the maintainer everytime you don't remember the right shortcut
[10:49] <apokryphos> there'll probably be a handbook for it soon
[10:49] <Russel-Athletic> ok...
[10:49] <Russel-Athletic> (i led it stay in tray for now :D)
[10:49] <apokryphos> though it would be nice to have an easily accessible config option, I guess
[10:49] <Russel-Athletic> perhaps a systemsettings module...
[10:52] <apokryphos> an option, no doubt
[10:52] <Russel-Athletic> mhhh i just imagine a "konqueror-plugin": you type a location (of course with tab-completion) and the file is opened with it's default programm
[10:52] <Russel-Athletic> that would be really nice
[10:53] <Juerd> Russel-Athletic: Hit alt+spacebar
[10:53] <Mekonikum> moin
[10:53] <Juerd> Oh, nevermind
[10:54] <Juerd> I was lagging behind
[10:55] <Russel-Athletic> nice!
[10:55] <Russel-Athletic> need a bit to know how to do a completion
[10:55] <RezDawg> anyone else have problems with firefox after going to 5.10?
[10:55] <Riddell> Russel-Athletic: it needs an arrow on it that brings up the menu when clicked is all
[10:56] <Juerd> RezDawg: Can you be a little less specific?
[10:57] <Juerd> I think not.
[10:57] <RezDawg> sorry. I cant get firefox to run at all since I upgraded to breezy
[10:57] <djib> hey
[10:57] <Juerd> That's clearer
[10:57] <Juerd> What do you get if you try to run it?
[10:57] <djib> what packages do you need to install under breezy to be able to play mp3 files ?
[10:57] <RezDawg> it says its malformatted. so i uninstalled it and then reinstalled but still no luck
[10:58] <RezDawg> I made sure to update all the packages before doing so
[10:58] <frank23> RezDawg: try mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old
[11:04] <jrattner1> What is thiis /uisr/share/ubuntu artwork error and how do i fix it
[11:05] <slow-motion> n8
[11:06] <icke> how do i run/find guidance?
[11:11] <_john> hello
[11:11] <_john> I have a question I hope someone can help me with
[11:12] <Juerd> Ask it
[11:13] <poimen> I downloaded both and burned the isos upto speed in my 40x cd-rw and I get in both a error in the install about files not being eble to install in the HD should I burn them in a slower speed??
[11:13] <poimen> I am talking about kubuntu iso
[11:13] <poimen> and ubuntu one
[11:13] <_john> alright I plug my ipod in and konqueror pops up and says An error occurred while loading media:/sdb1:
[11:14] <strike4ce> How do I clear my history in kubuntu?
[11:14] <_john> The file or folder media:/sdb1 does not exist.
[11:14] <_john> it worked before then it started giving me that
[11:16] <_john> any idea on how I might fix this?
[11:16] <RezDawg> !ubotu tell RezDawg about java
[11:17] <brosioz> how could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ?
[11:18] <_john> Can anyone please help me?
[11:20] <icke> how do i run/find guidance?
[11:20] <gath> hello
[11:20] <gath> mp3`s on amarok doesn`t run, why not?
[11:21] <icke> Kubuntu doesnt have mp3 support out of the box
[11:21] <_john> can anyone help me with my ipod problem
[11:21] <gath> and how i get support?
[11:22] <arafat> i am setting up a dual bott system at the moment (winxp and kubuntu)... on whihc partition do i have the bootable flag to set? winxp partition or /boot ?
[11:22] <Juerd> What is the default user name in kubuntu?
[11:22] <Juerd> I know what password I typed :)
[11:24] <icke> gath:  you need a package
[11:24] <_john> doh seem to have hit a wall here
[11:24] <gath> which package?
[11:24] <gath> over apt?
[11:24] <icke> dunno exactly, but i am searching
[11:25] <icke> you can download it via apt yes (or via Kynaptic/Synaptic)
[11:25] <_john> nstall the akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad packages from the universe repository and killall artsd to restart the sound server. You will also have to restart Amarok and Kaffeine.
[11:25] <_john> for mp3
[11:25] <Juerd> Why is ubuntu back to grub?
[11:25] <Juerd> I was glad it used lilo
[11:26] <icke> [23:25:42]  <_john> nstall the akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad packages from the universe repository and killall artsd to restart the sound server. You will also have to restart Amarok and Kaffeine. <- you may need to edit your source.list file
[11:26] <Corvus> when has ubuntu used lilo by default ?
[11:27] <strike4ce> Why is my address bar in Konqueror and Firefox so small?
[11:27] <strike4ce> How do I adjust?
[11:27] <_john> come on someone gotta know how to help a guy out here
[11:27] <_john> lol
[11:28] <Juerd> Corvus: At the time I installed it on my laptop
[11:28] <Juerd> Corvus: A month or so ago
[11:32] <strike4ce> Why is my address bar so small in Konqueror and firefoz?
[11:33] <Tallia1-KubuntU> upgrading to breezy... i hope everything will be ok
[11:33] <Tallia1-KubuntU> :P
[11:33] <Tallia1-KubuntU> i'll let you know :D
[11:33] <Tm_T> ok
[11:35] <strike4ce> Why is my address bar so small in Konqueror and firefoz?????????????????
[11:38] <Tallia1-KubuntU> WOW 1400 file to download
[11:38] <Tallia1-KubuntU> this is a big upgrade :D
[11:38] <Tallia1-KubuntU> and will take long time too........ 6 hours
[11:38] <Tallia1-KubuntU> .. :P
[11:38] <_john> can anyone help me with a ipod problem?
[11:39] <leveldoc> _john: what's the deal, maybe I can help
[11:40] <_john> I plug my ipod in and get a An error occurred while loading media:/sdb1
[11:40] <_john> The file or folder media:/sdb1 does not exis
[11:41] <_john> and sometimes its sdb2 instead
[11:41] <leveldoc> _john: I'm sorry, I don't know about this. Maybe the wiki could help?
[11:42] <_john> I found something on one of the fourms it worked before I updated to kde then it went all poopie lol
[11:42] <leveldoc> :-)
[11:42] <leveldoc> I've never tried to connect my iPod to Kubuntu, I have another PC where it's usually connected to, I run ubuntu there.
[11:43] <_john> seems a few others have has the same problem tho
[11:43] <leveldoc> it's works like a charm under ubuntu
[11:43] <leveldoc> open up a thread on the forums then, shouldn't take too long to get it fixed
[11:43] <_john> when I was just  running gnome it worked
[11:43] <_john> but kde is being funky
[11:43] <leveldoc> now you got me curious! :-) I should try it with kde then...
[11:44] <VR^> what would i need to get, after my server install is done,  to get a gui?
[11:44] <_john> heheit worked and I was all like yes I got everything done
[11:44] <leveldoc> (k)ubuntu-desktop
[11:44] <_john> then my ipod crapped out
[11:44] <_john> lol
[11:44] <VR^> leveldoc: does that install a whole bunch of other stuff?
[11:44] <VR^> like office, etc
[11:45] <leveldoc> VR^: take a look at packages.ubuntu.com and look at the dependencies
[11:45] <VR^> and also, don't i need x?
[11:45] <VR^> leveldoc: thanks
[11:45] <leveldoc> it should install everything you need
[11:45] <VR^> ok
[11:45] <leveldoc> u'r welcome
[11:45] <VR^> i just wanted to try a minimal configuration
[11:45] <leveldoc> try XFCE then
[11:46] <VR^> i did, but i don't know if i can run gnome/kde programs under xfce
[11:46] <leveldoc> apt-get should figure the part with X out on it's own... :-)
[11:46] <leveldoc> sure you can
[11:46] <leveldoc> it all depends if you have the necessary libraries installed, and usually apt-get takes good care that they are. :-)
[11:47] <VR^> i see
[11:47] <VR^> so i would not need to worry about x
[11:47] <leveldoc> I don't think so.
[11:47] <VR^> but someone told me i'd need to start it manually, startx xfce for example
[11:48] <leveldoc> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/xfce4
[11:48] <leveldoc> well, if you don't install something like kdm or gdm, you will have to do so, I guess.
[11:48] <VR^> i see
[11:49] <leveldoc> but I don't know if apt-get lets you install a complete desktop without a graphical login manager
[11:49] <VR^> that's kinda risky though, i dont think id know the multiverse repo urls by heart
[11:49] <leveldoc> so, worst case would be that you would have to add gdm or kdm after xfc4
[11:49] <VR^> ok
[11:49] <gath> hello
[11:49] <leveldoc> it's in the universe repo, should be safe to install.
[11:50] <VR^> ok
[11:50] <leveldoc> gath: hello :-)
[11:50] <gath> i have problems with my usb-sticks
[11:50] <leveldoc> _john knows something about that :-)
[11:50] <Tm_T> Riddell: any knews about hal problem?
[11:50] <gath> when i put it on the computer i get a error-message
[11:51] <gath> Beim Laden von media:/sda1 ist folgender Fehler aufgetreten:
[11:51] <gath> Die Datei oder der Ordner media:/sda1 existiert nicht.
[11:51] <gath> what is wrong?
[11:51] <_john> John knows bout what going to kde?
[11:51] <_john> lol
[11:52] <leveldoc> gath: you've got the same error as _john :-)
[11:52] <VR^> gath: #kubuntu-de
[11:52] <_john> ohhhh the ipod thing
[11:52] <_john> seeeee Im not alone!
[11:52] <VR^> maybe they can helkp
[11:52] <_john> lol
[11:52] <VR^> help*
[11:52] <leveldoc> lol
[11:52] <_john> from what I read its a kde isssue
[11:52] <gath> but it`s only a usb-stick, the same with my card-reader
[11:53] <Tm_T> gath: known issue :(
[11:53] <_john> its a kde bug of some sort not much to read on it
[11:54] <leveldoc> well, I'm gonna take off, have fun
[11:55] <Tm_T> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyKnownProblems