[12:00] <Zaggynl> eitan2, just ask
[12:00] <Zaggynl> !ask
[12:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:00] <linux_kid> LjL Please block user eitan2, (s)he is ruining our atmoshpere with ignorance
[12:01] <eitan2> Can anyone here help me get samba as an option in the shared folders settings?
[12:01] <ikonia> linux_kid: I want him banned
[12:01] <nalioth> eitan2: please ask your question
[12:01] <ikonia> nalioth: he's trolling
[12:01] <Zaggynl> Yeah Steve, either ask the question or GTFO :)
[12:01] <aN1> notme 4show fluxbox is always haxxor
[12:01] <linux_kid> nalioth: dont even bother
[12:01] <sbevill> frogzoo: most common message i'm seeing is "usb 2-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3" that looks like the likeliest connection
[12:01] <trinitrogen> im looking at the Beryl Settings Manager, the setting key combinations, whats the "super" key?
[12:02] <Zaggynl> sbevill, problems with USB devices?
[12:02] <ikonia> trinitrogen: /join #ubuntu-xgl - good support in there
[12:02] <trinitrogen> thanks
[12:02] <frogzoo> sbevill: obviously regular resets would be a problem
[12:02] <fiveiron> what the heck
[12:02] <eitan2> How can I get samba as an option in the shared folders settings?
[12:02] <ikonia> !op
[12:02] <linux_kid> ikonia: where are all of the ops?
[12:02] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[12:02] <fiveiron> anyone know of any linux spyware?
[12:02] <ikonia> linux_kid: don't know
[12:03] <sbevill> Zaggynl: yes, usb mouse and keyboard are having very delayed responses
[12:03] <linux_kid> eitan2: stop already!
[12:03] <ikonia> is there an op free m
[12:03] <frogzoo> fiveiron: they're called rootkits
[12:03] <Zaggynl> sbevill, hmm I had a problem with my usb hdd
[12:03] <nalioth> linux_kid: ikonia: /ignore works well
[12:03] <ikonia> nalioth: I'd like to request kick ban please for eitan2
[12:03] <Zaggynl> sbevill, changing usb ports helped
[12:03] <Zaggynl> just replug
[12:03] <Vlet> If you've been playing with your nic's mac address, how do you set it back to it's real mac?
[12:03] <ikonia> nalioth: but other keep getting sucked in
[12:03] <Smuggle> Goog Evening everybody!!
[12:03] <liquidengineer> Hello
[12:03] <Zaggynl> 'lo
[12:03] <eitan2> I don't understand the rudeness here....
[12:03] <liquidengineer> I've got xubuntu running off a livecd
[12:03] <toM|vendettA> hi, how can i find out my gtk version???
[12:04] <eitan2> I asked my question and I just get ignored.
[12:04] <liquidengineer> I want to connect to my wireless nework
[12:04] <liquidengineer> so I'm in Network-admin
[12:04] <sbevill> frogzoo: i'm not completely sure what i'm looking for, what specifically should i keep an eye out for?
[12:04] <nalioth> eitan2: your question has been answered
[12:04] <Vlet> being ruse is fun :)
[12:04] <frogzoo> !patience | eitan2
[12:04] <ubotu> eitan2: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:04] <liquidengineer> it says enter password (WEP key)
[12:04] <ikonia> liquidengineer: dpkg -l | grep gtk
[12:04] <Vlet> s/ruse/rude
[12:04] <ikonia> just kick ban him
[12:04] <liquidengineer> I've got a WPA password
[12:04] <ikonia> he's obviously trolling
[12:04] <liquidengineer> is that going to be a problem?
[12:04] <sbevill> zaggynl: thanks, will try that
[12:04] <Zaggynl> Well he did ask his question
[12:04] <ikonia> "I don't understand the rudeness"
[12:04] <ikonia> yeah yeah
[12:04] <eitan2> nalioth: no it hasn't. If it were, I wouldn't be here being rudely ignored.
[12:04] <No1Bri> can someone help me with a install problem im having please
[12:04] <Zaggynl> sbevill, hope it helps, those usb resets are a bitch
[12:04] <Smuggle> Guys... im using Ubuntu Edgy now, but i used ubuntu dapper...
[12:04] <aoupi> liquidengineer: well yes, it's 2 different encryptoin algorithms
[12:04] <linux_kid> eitan2: you have been answered twice, now ill ask nicly to leave once more
[12:04] <ikonia> bimberi: he's been told 20 times
[12:04] <frogzoo> sbevill: anything that looks problematic, also google "linux + driver + keyboard make/model"
[12:04] <liquidengineer> I was afraid of that
[12:04] <nalioth> eitan2: please wait at least 5 minutes between asking the same question
[12:04] <liquidengineer> can I enter a WPA key somehow?
[12:05] <eitan2> nailoth: I've been waiting hours.
[12:05] <toM|vendettA> Can someone help me? All I need to know is my GTK version (how do I find it?)
[12:05] <linux_kid> frogzoo: he's not listening to any answers
[12:05] <Zaggynl> eitan2, no offense, but you should have used the time to google around, search fora, etc
[12:05] <nalioth> eitan2: then perhaps you should ask in another channel, like #samba perhaps
[12:05] <Smuggle> Guys... im using Ubuntu Edgy now, but i used ubuntu dapper... In text mode, my key "/" doesnt work, but in graphics, no problem.  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[12:05] <liquidengineer> where is that?
[12:05] <nalioth> FirstStrike: /ignore works great :)
[12:05] <eitan2> Zaggynl: the problem is not with samba, it's with ubuntu and gnome
[12:05] <nalioth> linux_kid: what do you want?
[12:06] <Zaggynl> eitan2, okay, what ubuntu version do you have
[12:06] <ikonia> kick ban kick ban kick ban
[12:06] <Zaggynl> wait
[12:06] <fiveiron> i had run wine to try and install some windows apps and wineserver was still running in the background connecting me to all kinds of ad servers..... :-(
[12:06] <eitan2> 6.06
[12:06] <linux_kid> nalionth: to stop eitan2
[12:06] <ikonia> he's trolling big time
[12:06] <linux_kid> Zaggynl: DONT HELP HIM
[12:06] <ikonia> 3 people have ignored him
[12:06] <eitan2> Zaggynl: 6.06
[12:06] <Lynoure> liquidengineer: I'm not sure for edgy, I use it on dapper myself.
[12:06] <nalioth> linux_kid: i am here. he is not going anywhere. please use /ignore if he bothers you
[12:06] <Smuggle> Guys... im using Ubuntu Edgy now, but i used ubuntu dapper... In text mode, my key "/" doesnt work, but in graphics, no problem. Anybody here had or has the same problem???
[12:06] <sbevill> frogzoo: do you think it would be a keyboard driver problem or a usb device driver problem?
[12:06] <Zaggynl> eitan2, and when attempt to share the folder, you miss the samba option?
[12:06] <liquidengineer> Lynoure: I'm on dapper
[12:06] <liquidengineer> :D
[12:06] <ikonia> he's ruing the flow when another person gets sucked in to helping him
[12:06] <ikonia> ruining
[12:06] <toM|vendettA> How do I figure out my GTK version??????
[12:07] <Napster_> hi
[12:07] <eitan2> Zaggynl: that's right... no samba option... samba is installed.
[12:07] <ikonia> toM|vendettA: I told you dpkg -l | grep gtk or gtk-config --libs -version
[12:07] <Napster_> my add/remove programs button has disappeared. how do i get it back?
[12:07] <Zaggynl> eitan2, odd, I have had it for a pretty long while now
[12:07] <Lynoure> liquidengineer: network-manager-gnome
[12:07] <frogzoo> sbevill: you'll need a driver for the particular usb device
[12:07] <Zaggynl> eitan2, I'm going to search a bit, hold on
[12:07] <Vlet> toM|vendettA, check your synaptic package manager
[12:07] <linux_kid> nalioth: cant you remove him from the board, watch Zaggynl
[12:07] <ikonia> naloith seconded
[12:08] <liquidengineer> Lynoure: do I type that in the command line?
[12:08] <Lynoure> liquidengineer: or just   sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:08] <liquidengineer> I'm in xubuntu
[12:08] <Napster_> ??
[12:08] <Smuggle> Guys... im using Ubuntu Edgy now, but i used ubuntu dapper... In text mode, my key "/" doesnt work, but in graphics, no problem. Anybody here had or has the same problem???
[12:08] <Napster_> some one plz help
[12:08] <Lynoure> liquidengineer: not that, but the stuff after the "just" :)
[12:08] <toM|vendettA> thanks ikonia and Vlet, and ikonia I saw what you said about the dpkg thing but you addressed it to liquidengineer (<ikonia> liquidengineer: dpkg -l | grep gtk)
[12:08] <ikonia> toM|vendettA: my mistake - sorry
[12:08] <toM|vendettA> its cool :P thanks for the help
[12:08] <Napster_> my add/remove programs button has disappeared. how do i get it back?
[12:09] <eitan2> Zaggnyl: If I may... I was on this channel earlier and I wanted to do a file transfer between two computers on my lan... someone here said to use the shared folders but to use nfs and not samba... so when the I started the shared folders settings, it gave me a choice for samba, nfs, or both... I chose nfs... ever since then it has only allowed nfs, and not let me add samba.
[12:09] <HS^> is it possible to use the windows fonts for ubuntu
[12:09] <HS^> i like those
[12:09] <Lynoure> liquidengineer: but I might not be here long enough to walk you through it, but anyway, it should not put you to any worse situation
[12:09] <Napster_> ??
[12:09] <Napster_> ??
[12:09] <Selqet> happy new year
[12:09] <liquidengineer> Lynoure: I can't get on the internet, unfortunately
[12:09] <Zaggynl> eitan2, you could try to redo the process, and choose samba
[12:09] <bieb> HS.. yes...
[12:10] <Zaggynl> eitan2, also, here is a manual guide to get samba going: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605&highlight=samba+share
[12:10] <liquidengineer> I've only got wireless here, and I can't get it to connect because it's only taking a WEP pass
[12:10] <Zaggynl> eitan2, another option is to setup an ftp server
[12:10] <Napster_> HELP!!!!
[12:10] <eitan2> Zagfynl: I did... you don't understand... it's not giving me the choice like it did the first time.
[12:10] <Smuggle> [HS^] : has a package with the windows fonts..
[12:10] <Zaggynl> Napster_, please state the nature of the medical emergency
[12:10] <Vlet> Napster_: open your 'menu layout' applet in preferences and add an item which launches /usr/bin/gnome-app-install
[12:10] <toM|vendettA> Anyone available to help me? I am trying to set this up but I cannot get it to work ( I see the Mac-Menu in my add to panel option, but when I add it nothing shows up) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868
[12:10] <Napster_> my add/remove button has disappeared. how do i get it back?
[12:10] <bieb> !font
[12:10] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[12:10] <Lynoure> liquidengineer: Then that is a bit of a problem. you could get the files from web on your current computer, the one you irc on, but that's multiple packages
[12:10] <SoundSquare> this chan is giving me headache
[12:10] <Vlet> Napster_: and be patient in IRC
[12:11] <ikonia> Napster_: what add remove button ?
[12:11] <Napster_> k
[12:11] <liquidengineer> Xubuntu doesn't support WPA out of the box?
[12:11] <No1Bri> im trying to install ubuntu 6.10 from cd that I boot with, and I cant cause I keep getting a x server failed to load error... in the details it says fatal server error, no screens found... anyone help?
[12:11] <Smuggle> Guys... im using Ubuntu Edgy now, but i used ubuntu dapper... In text mode, my key "/" doesnt work, but in graphics, no problem. Anybody here had or has the same problem???
[12:11] <liquidengineer> and can I even run gnome apps?
[12:11] <notme> SoundSquare: speed or content?
[12:11] <liquidengineer> I'm using Xfce
[12:11] <nalioth> liquidengineer: join #xubuntu for more info, but linux in general doesn't play well with wpa
[12:11] <kitche> liquidengineer: yes but it will pull all of gnome with them also
[12:11] <sbevill> Zaggynl: ok, the keyboard and mouse both seem to be performing more appropriately now after switching usb ports.  hopefully that was the extent of the problem.  Thanks.
[12:11] <Zaggynl> 940 people in here, whoa
[12:11] <Zaggynl> sbevill, glad it did help a bit :)
[12:12] <Smuggle> Guys... im using Ubuntu Edgy now, but i used ubuntu dapper... In text mode, my key "/" doesnt work, but in graphics, no problem. Anybody here had or has the same problem???
[12:12] <SoundSquare> notme: first time i get on the chan and i'm overwhelmed by so many n00b questions, btw is there a dedicated ubuntuPPC chan ?
[12:12] <Lynoure> liquidengineer: I had no idea you were in xubuntu and not on ubuntu...
[12:12] <eitan2> Zaggynl: this computer is for a friend that needs things to work easily... I can't have him depend on terminal window commands... I just want to have the shared folders settings give me samba as an option... that's alll.
[12:12] <liquidengineer> Lynoure: Sorry
[12:12] <bieb> HS^ did you get that info?
[12:12] <liquidengineer> I should've been more clear
[12:12] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: ok, I have loaded + checked every module which is running on the machine that's working on the machien that's not
[12:12] <Zaggynl> eitan2, okay, what you could do, is set it up manually once, then your friend will be able to connect to the share just fine
[12:12] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: still nothing?
[12:12] <Lynoure> liquidengineer: the backend is there for xubuntu too, but how to use it nicely, I do not know.
[12:12] <Smuggle> [eitan2] : personaly, i prefer samba
[12:12] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:12] <nalioth> Zaggynl: does samba use a ~/.samba or something? can that be wiped and eitan2 start over?
[12:12] <Napster_> i couldnt find it
[12:12] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: nope... ifup eth0 and no such device
[12:12] <n0cturnal_> kk
[12:12] <Napster_> wat exactly do i do
[12:13] <notme> SoundSquare:It has been interesting for me too. I don't think so.
[12:13] <liquidengineer> Lynoure: I'll check in #xubuntu
[12:13] <liquidengineer> thanks
[12:13] <notme> !ppc
[12:13] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[12:13] <eitan2> Zaggynl: so you're saying you don't know how to have the shared folders settings give me the samba option without pages full of terminal windows commands?
[12:13] <notme> !powerpc
[12:13] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: nope... same again
[12:13] <Zaggynl> nalioth, I'm not sure actually, I've poked around with samba quite a bit, but since I got the gui...
[12:13] <Zaggynl> eitan2, in short, yes. Where did you set the sharing option?
[12:13] <eitan2> nailoth: what I need to wipe is the shared folders settings...
[12:13] <Lynoure> liquidengineer: you could just use plain old wpa-suplicant, but that is a bit more hassle, in my opinion
[12:14] <Lynoure> liquidengineer: anyway, have happy tuning :)
[12:14] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: did you do any changes to the network on the 'mother' computer?
[12:14] <HS^> Smuggle:  where?
[12:14] <Smuggle> Guys... im using Ubuntu Edgy now, but i used ubuntu dapper... In text mode, my key "/" doesnt work, but in graphics, no problem. Anybody here had or has the same problem???
[12:14] <HS^> bieb:  yes, where is that package? whats its name
[12:14] <HS^> thanks
[12:14] <bieb> !fonts
[12:14] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[12:15] <SoundSquare> notme : PowerPC is a range of CPUs, from IBM, Motorola and now Freescale. It has a different layout then X86 procs
[12:15] <kitche> Smuggle: it looks like more then / doesn't work to me since your doesnt has a weird symbol in it
[12:15] <bieb> HS^ also, google for TTF fonts in Linux, I know there is a few howto's out there, I just dont have one handy
[12:15] <theflyingfool> is there a way to restart without actually restarting
[12:15] <No1Bri> im trying to install ubuntu 6.10 from cd that I boot with, and I cant cause I keep getting a x server failed to load error... in the details it says fatal server error, no screens found... anyone help?
[12:16] <kitche> theflyingfool: you can restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:16] <eitan2> Zaggynl: I started the shared folders under system, administration ... it told me that there were no protocols installed... samba or nfs, and it asked me which of them I wanted or both... since people on this channel said "Don't use samba" I chose nfs. It then installed nfs, and since then has never asked me the question about using samba, I can't seem to have it as a shared folder option, and even though I installed samba with apt-get... there is no way to
[12:16] <eitan2>  use samba with a shared folder.
[12:16] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-base is just a wild guess but that could work
[12:16] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: not a thing. was working when I first did the install, still working on that pc. just not working on the other pc's after I did the mirror.
[12:16] <theflyingfool> i knew about restart X but i need to restart the computer and i dont want to
[12:16] <kitche> No1Bri: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should fix your problem after you configure it correctly
[12:16] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: short of that, should I just reload the stupid thing?
[12:16] <Zaggynl> eitan2, okay, there should ofcourse be a way to undo this
[12:16] <ikonia> eitan2: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep smb"
[12:16] <Napster_> i cant find my add/remove button in the applications menu. how can i get it back?
[12:16] <Smuggle> [kitche] : the key "? or /" doesnt work... no symbols on the screen... like the key not exists.. but in the graphics mode, the key works fine!!..
[12:16] <Lynoure> theflyingfool: Give a bit info about what you need to restart for, please
[12:16] <kitche> theflyingfool: well thre isn't really a way to do it if it's a kernel upgrade
[12:16] <nalioth> eitan2: do you have samba installed?
[12:16] <theflyingfool> updates
[12:16] <Lynoure> theflyingfool: otherwise it's all "the sound of one hand clapping"
[12:17] <alex_> i have an ntfs partition with the bootable flag, is there anyway i can reformat it without wrecking the grub?
[12:17] <toM|vendettA> Anyone available to help me? I am trying to set this up but I cannot get it to work ( I see the Mac-Menu in my add to panel option, but when I add it nothing shows up) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868
[12:17] <Lynoure> theflyingfool: which updates?
[12:17] <eitan2> Zaggynl: I hope to god there is. Please help. I've been at this for hours already. It shouldn't be this hard, and I'm really frustrated.
[12:17] <kitche> theflyingfool: you don't have to restart at all with updates only really have to restart when the kernel is
[12:17] <bradley> i am doing an online course and have to watch a video that is a .ram file. totem opens, seems to buffer but doesn't play it. can anyone help?
[12:17] <eitan2> nailoth: yes
[12:17] <ikonia> eitan2: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep smb"
[12:17] <Zaggynl> eitan2, when you're getting angry, you learn the fastest :)
[12:17] <Lynoure> theflyingfool: unless they ask you to, you do not necessarily need to.
[12:17] <bieb> HS^ here is a link   http://www.linux.org.mt/article/ttfonts
[12:17] <theflyingfool> it just gave me the restart thing up by notifcations
[12:17] <Lynoure> theflyingfool: usually just restarting the relevant programs is good enough.
[12:18] <LinTux> I just downloaded Ubuntu x64, I burnt the image but it start installing in black and white with layout not looking right, what have I done wrong?
[12:18] <No1Bri> kitche: can I configure by booting the CD that I burnt?
[12:18] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: ubuntu-base is not installed.... =\ ?
[12:18] <eitan2> Zaggynl: ... I learn fast already, but no one has been able to tell me what to do to solve this problem. I even tried uninstalling nfs and samba, and hoping that the shared folders settings window would ask me the question again about needing to install nfs or samba, but that didn't work.
[12:18] <kitche> No1Bri: yes that command works on the cd as well
[12:18] <ikonia> LinTux: looks like you got the alt cd
[12:18] <ikonia> eitan2: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep smb"
[12:18] <ikonia> eitan2: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep smb"
[12:18] <ikonia> eitan2: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep smb"
[12:18] <Zaggynl> easy there
[12:18] <ikonia> why do you ignore someone helping you
[12:18] <theflyingfool> how do i tell how long its been since my last restart
[12:18] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: uh. that's very odd
[12:18] <ikonia> this is why its annoyinh
[12:18] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: worth installing? :P
[12:18] <LinTux> ikonia: go again?
[12:18] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: very much soo
[12:18] <Zaggynl> eitan2, could you please try executing that in a terminal:  "ps -ef | grep smb"
[12:18] <Lynoure> theflyingfool: uptime  is the command for that
[12:18] <ikonia> hes desperate to get it fixed but ignores help
[12:19] <IceTox> ya guys know of any known reasons to why xorg starts taking too much of CPU?
[12:19] <Smuggle> [kitche] : did you understand?
[12:19] <nalioth> eitan2: this is not the best channel for samba, but #samba is
[12:19] <ikonia> LinTux: there is a install cd, and an alt install cd - the alt install cd has a text installer
[12:19] <ikonia> or do you mean it installed a text based system
[12:19] <kitche> Smuggle: my only guess is that your /etc/inputrc is probably missing something
[12:19] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: lemme go find a floppy to download it to :P
[12:19] <Vlet> Anyone know how to set a nic's MAC back to it's default?
[12:19] <eitan2> Zaggynl: samba is not running as a process
[12:20] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: :(
[12:20] <ikonia> its not installed then
[12:20] <ikonia> the init script would start it
[12:20] <kitche> Vlet: yes just reboot
[12:20] <ikonia> when you install it
[12:20] <Zaggynl> eitan2, thanks
[12:20] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: can you move around the cd drive?
[12:20] <ikonia> or when you rebooted
[12:20] <Smuggle> [kitche] : something like what?
[12:20] <LinTux> ikonia: No graphical install, but it is in black & white and does not look right on the graphics
[12:20] <dude> can i install sakai with free java instead of jre
[12:20] <eitan2> nalioth: but the problem is NOT with samba. The problem is with the shared folders window not giving me any choice but NFS.
[12:20] <ikonia> so - the fact that I've been asking him to do that for abou an hour now
[12:20] <Vlet> kitche: well, yeah... I should have appended, "without rebooting" :)
[12:20] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: seems like a lot less head-ache to install the individualy
[12:20] <ikonia> eitan2: show me the output of "dpkg -l  | grep samba"
[12:21] <Napster_> i really need help wit this. my add/remove button has disappeared from the applications menu. how can i get it back?
[12:21] <ikonia> LinTux: looks like you've done a server install instead of a desktop install
[12:21] <mzanfardino> noob question: just installed PostgreSQL which creates a 'postgres' user.  How do I change the password?  when I 'su postgres' as sudo user, I'm asked for the current password and I have no idea what it is... is there another way?
[12:21] <ikonia> LinTux: server install doesn't install X
[12:21] <LinTux> ikonia: ok me try again
[12:21] <aoupi> LinTux: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to get the graphical things
[12:21] <Smuggle> [Napster_] : yore looking at the menu like "root" user or a simple user?
[12:21] <notme> Apparently my php is messed. I installed my lamp server from a faq and when this problem occured I tried to go back and fix php but it didn't work. so now I am thinking to do mysql and php over but I want to start with a clean install as much as possible. Is there anyway to wipe that stuff out?
[12:21] <ikonia> Mazus: sudo user - when you do sudo it doesn't change user
[12:21] <Napster_> simple
[12:22] <Vlet> mzanfardino: sudo passwd postgres
[12:22] <Napster_> i think
[12:22] <Napster_> im a noob
[12:22] <Napster_> i dunno the diff
[12:22] <somerville32> mzanfardino, , sudo password postgres
[12:22] <Smuggle> [Napster_] : so... a simple user cant remove a program..
[12:22] <somerville32> *passwd
[12:22] <ikonia> eitan2: show me the output of "dpkg -l  | grep samba"
[12:22] <mzanfardino> Vlet: brilliant!  thank you!
[12:22] <Napster_> i can remove programs
[12:22] <mzanfardino> somerville32: thank you too! :)
[12:22] <kitche> Smuggle: umm they can remove icons on the menu
[12:23] <Smuggle> [Napster_] : to test this.. try a $ aptitude remove "progam"
[12:23] <dude> !sakai
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sakai - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <kitche> Napster_: someone told you already let me go though the logs of this channel to find it again
[12:23] <Smuggle> [kitche] : only the icons.. but the program?? I dont think so..
[12:23] <Vlet> Napster_: open your 'menu layout' applet in preferences and add an item which launches /usr/bin/gnome-app-install
[12:23] <ikonia> eitan2: show me the output of "dpkg -l  | grep samba"
[12:24] <alex_> !bootable
[12:24] <Napster_> i couldnt find that
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <Smuggle> [kitche] : he wants add/remove icons on his applications menu?? huahuahua
[12:24] <ikonia> shittyshit: please change your nick name
[12:24] <kitche> Napster_: open your menu layout applet in preferences and add an item which launches /usr/bin/gnome-app-install
[12:24] <aoupi> !language | ikonia
[12:24] <ubotu> ikonia: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:24] <aoupi> ikonia: :p
[12:24] <Smuggle> [kitche] : So i didnt understand very well... sorry...
[12:24] <eitan2> this is terrible...  I'll be back in several hours when that's done.
[12:25] <ikonia> eitan2: show me the output of "dpkg -l  | grep samba"
[12:25] <ikonia> eitan2: why are you not listening
[12:25] <Napster_> i cant find the menu layout applet
[12:25] <Smuggle> [kitche] : the key "? or /" doesnt work... no symbols on the screen... like the key not exists.. but in the graphics mode, the key works fine!!..
[12:25] <ikonia> nalioth: will you ban him now - you can clearly see he's trolling
[12:25] <ikonia> eitan2: why are you not listening
[12:25] <ikonia> eitan2: why are you not listening
[12:25] <eitan2> Zaggynl: this is terrible...  I'll be back in several hours when that's done.
[12:25] <ikonia> eitan2: show me the output of "dpkg -l  | grep samba"
[12:25] <ikonia> eitan2: show me the output of "dpkg -l  | grep samba"
[12:25] <ikonia> eitan2: show me the output of "dpkg -l  | grep samba"
[12:25] <ikonia> eitan2: show me the output of "dpkg -l  | grep samba"
[12:25] <ikonia> eitan2: show me the output of "dpkg -l  | grep samba"
[12:25] <Zaggynl> eitan2, wait
[12:25] <Smuggle> [kitche] : sorry again...
[12:25] <Smuggle> Guys... im using Ubuntu Edgy now, but i used ubuntu dapper... In text mode, my key "/" doesnt work, but in graphics, no problem. Anybody here had or has the same problem???
[12:25] <Zaggynl> ikonia, eitan2 I think you both need to cool down
[12:25] <eitan2> Zaggynl: ... I shouldn't do that?
[12:25] <Vlet> several hours?
[12:25] <ikonia> Zaggynl: its it not clear he's trolling
[12:25] <toM|vendettA> Anyone available to help me? I am trying to set this up but I cannot get it to work ( I see the Mac-Menu in my add to panel option, but when I add it nothing shows up) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868
[12:25] <Zaggynl> eitan2, no? you would have to reconfigure it all
[12:25] <ikonia> he just won't listen
[12:26] <ikonia> eitan2: show me the output of "dpkg -l  | grep samba"
[12:26] <ikonia> please show me the output of that command
[12:26] <eitan2> Zaggynl: ... I know... I've just resigned myself to suffering... you are the only person here who seems to care to help me do this.
[12:26] <Zaggynl> eitan2, we're trying to help you, could you please execute the command "dpkg -l  | grep samba"
[12:26] <dude> can i install sakai with free java instead of jre
[12:26] <ikonia> eitan2: I'm atrying to help you  !!!!
[12:26] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. i really hope somone can help. I am using Kino to stream of digital footage to my Ubuntu PC. I then export the footage as either an avi, VOB or MPEG (tried all three) and wrote it to DVD (using Gnomebaker). But when the DVD disk is put into the family DVD player it says 'Disc cannot be read'. In Windows I used to be able to create a VOB set which, when inserted into DVD player, just played like a normal DVD. What am I
[12:26] <eitan2> Zaggynl: ok wait
[12:26] <gizmo_the_great1> doing wrong?
[12:26] <ikonia> why are you not listening !!!!!
[12:26] <Zaggynl> eitan2, did you /ignore ikonia ?
[12:27] <nikin> ikonia... you deserve a lot of respect for ypur patiente
[12:27] <kitche> ikonia: he probably ignored you just like a lot of people did probab;y
[12:27] <ikonia> kitche: no - he was chatting until I gave him a fix - then he went off on one
[12:27] <eitan2> Zaggynl: I did. Since he was wanting me to leave.
[12:27] <linux_kid> ikonia: he just wont stop!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:27] <Napster_> so wat do i do?
[12:27] <Zaggynl> eitan2, please unignore him, he wants to help you, although he has problems staying calm
[12:27] <ikonia> linux_kid: I know - and it make me look bad for tyring to help he
[12:28] <ikonia> 3 people have ignored him for trolloing
[12:28] <Zaggynl> ..?
[12:28] <kitche> ikonia: if you notice he ignored you so he can't even see what you say
[12:28] <ikonia> kitche: I know that now
[12:28] <nalioth> eitan2: join #samba please
[12:29] <linux_kid> * real life
[12:29] <Zaggynl> ....
[12:29] <Zaggynl> what did you ban him for?
[12:29] <dude> ikonia, do you know if i can install sakai with free java  instead of jre
[12:29] <ikonia> dude: not a clue, sorry
[12:29] <linux_kid> nalioth: thank you!!!!!!!!
[12:29] <dude> ikonia, thx anyway
[12:29] <ikonia> dude: sorry
[12:30] <nikin> the only think that comes to my mind about eithan2 that he thinks that there is a dropdown menu somwhere where he can select, and he ignores any command line based solutions
[12:30] <ikonia> nikin: the problem is he doesn't have smaba installed
[12:30] <Robbins> i have a question... can someone help?
[12:30] <ikonia> so gnome isn't aware of samba options
[12:30] <somerville32> !ask | Robbins
[12:30] <ubotu> Robbins: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:30] <ikonia> but he won't believe me that he doesn't have samba insalled
[12:30] <Robbins> recently my laptop was injured, and my hd is trashed... i'm forced to use a live distro of ubuntu as my main os for now...
[12:31] <Robbins> without a HD i cant save ubuntu data to it, or save it as an os to a partition
[12:31] <Robbins> so how can i save data, and run the live cd like its an operating system?
[12:31] <HS^> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  msttcorefonts: Depends: cabextract (>= 0.1-2) but it is not installableE: Broken packages
[12:31] <HS^> why is that error?
[12:31] <aoupi> Robbins: get a new HD :)
[12:31] <kitche> Robbins: there is a way to do it but I forgot the ubotu switch for the howto
[12:31] <Robbins> aoupi... i know
[12:31] <Robbins> can i use a usb drive?
[12:31] <Robbins> like a flash drive?
[12:31] <aoupi> Robbins: you could also get a memory stick and mount it to /home
[12:31] <Robbins> ok.
[12:31] <No1Bri> how do I run the command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg when Im booting with the cd to install?
[12:32] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: still not happening... time to reload?
[12:32] <Robbins> how do i mount again?
[12:32] <nikin> ikonia: i understand. Just i ame folowing this conversation for a while now.. and i just cant understand why he did, what he did. thats all.
[12:32] <ikonia> because he was trolling
[12:32] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: yea... can you move the CD drive to the other computers?
[12:32] <Zaggynl> Robbins, http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/mounting.html
[12:32] <Zaggynl> Robbins, google ;)
[12:32] <Robbins> thank you
[12:32] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. I am using Kino to stream digital footage to my Ubuntu PC. and exporting it as either an avi, VOB or MPEG (tried all three) and wrote it to DVD (using Gnomebaker). But when the DVD disk is put into the family DVD player it says 'Disc cannot be read'. In Windows I used to be able to create 'an actual' DVD which when examined are actually a VOB set which, when inserted into DVD player, just played like a normal DVD. What
[12:32] <gizmo_the_great1>  am I doing wrong?
[12:33] <n0cturnal_> have to pull the top off (desktop cases) and hack things up a bit (is a dodgy hp machine with one molex plug, so gotta get an external psu for the cdrom)
[12:33] <nikin> Robbins: i read somwhere that there is a workaround wich stores the home dir and some other dirs on a pendrive... but i dont know to do it.. sorry
[12:33] <toM|vendettA> is there a way i can choose whether I want to run gnome or kde at startup?
[12:33] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: cheers for your help tho. i shall now go and get breakfast, then attack these stupid things..
[12:33] <kitche> nikin: ubotu has it in it's databse just don't know the switch to get it
[12:34] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: you'r welcome, good luck
[12:34] <linux_kid> gizmo_the_great1: use pastebin for long questions and give us a short description with a link to the pastebin
[12:34] <nikin> kitche: i see if i find something in my books about it
[12:34] <SoulChild> HI EveryOne
[12:34] <ikonia> hi
[12:35] <SoulChild> I am a proud new ubuntu user
[12:35] <ikonia> ok
[12:35] <Napushenko> Is there any HTML/PHP editor forr ubuntu better than NVU?
[12:35] <aoupi> Napushenko: vim/emacs? :)
[12:35] <Napster> can any1 help me get my add/remove button back plz?
[12:35] <ikonia> Napster: I don't know what button you keep referencing
[12:35] <Zaggynl> SoulChild, join the club :)
[12:36] <gameover> hi everyone... quick question...  how can i start ubuntu in verbose mode.(without the ubuntu graphic)
[12:36] <SoulChild> zaggynl: Thanks
[12:36] <Noah0504> I downloaded an album that contains two files: A FLAC file with the audio and a cue sheet.  However, I cannot figure out how to burn it under Ubuntu.
[12:36] <HS^> how do you add all those opengl effects to ubuntu (cubus screens)
[12:36] <Napster> if u click on applications, right at the bottom there should b an add/remove button
[12:36] <HS^> ?
[12:36] <kitche> ikonia: think he's refering to the gnome Add/Remove Program think he removed it from the menu
[12:36] <Napster> mines gone
[12:36] <notme> I have been told that my php is hosed. How can I un-hose my php? Can I just delete it all and start over?
[12:36] <Napushenko> aoupi:where can i download them?
[12:36] <Zaggynl> gameover, you mean, without x-window-system?
[12:36] <gameover> HS, beryl
[12:36] <aoupi> gameover: in /boot/grub/menu.list take away quiet and splash on the kernel options
[12:36] <Napushenko> aoupi:but in .deb file because i dont have compieler on my ubuntu
[12:36] <gameover> thanks! :)
[12:37] <Vlet> Napster: We have told you many many times how to do it
[12:37] <aoupi> Napushenko: it was a joke, I don't think they are what you want, they are very advanced text editors
[12:37] <kitche> Vlet: he doesn't know where the menu layout preference is though
[12:37] <Napushenko> ups..
[12:37] <obi-1> Napushenko, you should try VIM
[12:37] <Napster> i couldnt find wat u were talking bout
[12:37] <kitche> Vlet: I do most of my stuff by hand or else I would tell him where it's at :)
[12:37] <Vlet> well then he better turn off the computer
[12:37] <Napushenko> obi-1,where i can download VIM ?
[12:37] <Napster> i went where u sed and it wasnt there
[12:37] <aoupi> Napushenko: in ubuntu you install applications through synaptic
[12:38] <aoupi> !synaptic
[12:38] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[12:38] <obi-1> Napushenko, it's installed already.. you should customize it
[12:38] <Noah0504> I downloaded an album that contains two files: A FLAC file with the audio and a cue sheet.  However, I cannot figure out how to burn it under Ubuntu.  Can anyone help me?
[12:38] <obi-1> Napushenko, www.vim.org
[12:38] <Vlet> Napster, you have to add it yourself. Add a new item
[12:38] <Napster> i know
[12:38] <Napster> but how?
[12:38] <Napster> where exactly do i go?
[12:38] <kitche> Napushenko: open up a terminal and type vim if it says command not found then sudo apt-get install vim-full will install it
[12:38] <timo901> is this #ubuntu ?
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> timo901: yes
[12:39] <Napushenko> aoupi:i dont have internet conecytion so i can't install nothing...
[12:39] <Bill574> i i am new to ubuntu how do i go about adding a new theme?
[12:39] <aoupi> timo901: yes
[12:39] <mwalker_mewconsu> yes
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> !themes | Bill574
[12:39] <ubotu> Bill574: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[12:39] <aoupi> Napushenko: ah I see
[12:39] <timo901> it has a diffrent vibe to it thats all
[12:39] <kitche> Napushenko: it might be on the install cd also not sure though
[12:39] <Bill574> thanks you
[12:39] <No1Bri> im trying to do a fresh new install of ubuntu 6.10 from cd that I boot with, and I cant cause I keep getting a x server failed to load error... in the details it says fatal server error, no screens found... anyone help?
[12:39] <ebroder> hey - i just finished installing, but i can't get my machine to boot up. when i try to boot from the hd, it just hangs after the bios's stuff. when i boot from a grub floppy, it says "GRUB Loading stage2....." then hangs.
[12:40] <ebroder> (it's a server install of 6.10)
[12:40] <kitche> No1Bri: did you try my recommandation?
[12:40] <ikonia> kitche:  he's on ati
[12:40] <aoirthoir> wow! it rejoins the channel
[12:40] <ikonia> I explained it to him
[12:40] <obi-1> ebroder, perhaps the bios doesn't recongnizes the hd
[12:40] <aoirthoir> uh wrong channel
[12:40] <ikonia> (I think it was him)
[12:40] <linux_kid> etian hello
[12:40] <No1Bri> kitche: I cant get that to work cause I dont know how/where I type the command you gave me
[12:40] <ebroder> obi-1: it should - it has in the past, i was just reinstalling
[12:41] <ebroder> obi-1: i may have been using debian before; can't remember
[12:41] <ebroder> and in any case it was a much older version
[12:41] <nikin> kitche: i found it :D
[12:41] <kitche> No1Bri: when you click ok after the error you should be at a terminal
[12:41] <obi-1> ebroder, well.. if the bios recongnizes the hard drive sporadically.. than you should reconsider buying a new one
[12:41] <ebroder> obi-1: i've also tried booting off a grub floppy
[12:42] <Napushenko> linux_kid:do you now some HTML/PHP editor for Ubuntu but i .deb file?
[12:42] <kitche> No1Bri: that is where you type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:42] <No1Bri> kitche: oh I see... lemme try that
[12:42] <HS^> Package cabextract is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:42] <ebroder> obi-1: it's not sporadic. fsck finds nothing wrong, and it consistently does the same thing post install (i've tried installing multiple times - same thing). also, the install runs fine
[12:42] <nikin> !presistent
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about presistent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <HS^> what do i need to do to install cabextract
[12:43] <linux_kid> Napushenko: just get the "nvu" package with sudo apt-get install nvu
[12:43] <obi-1> ebroder, ahh.. sorry
[12:43] <nikin> !casper-cow
[12:43] <Napushenko> i have nvu
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about casper-cow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <Napushenko> but i dont have internet conection on my laptop
[12:43] <frogzoo> !botabuse | nikin
[12:43] <ubotu> nikin: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:43] <HS^> what do i need to do to install cabextract
[12:43] <linux_kid> Napushenko: it works fine as an html editor
[12:43] <Napushenko> and i dont have gcc compailer..
[12:43] <eshat_> Hey can anyone speak to me, i want to see if the test is highlighted
[12:44] <Napster> i still cannot find it
[12:44] <Napushenko> where to download the editor?
[12:44] <Napster> is anyone willing to help me still
[12:44] <frogzoo> eshat_: can't see a thing
[12:44] <obi-1> ebroder, so.. you can install.. but after installing it, grub doesn't seem to find the hard drive
[12:44] <ebroder> correct
[12:44] <eshat_> frogzoo: Yes it works, thank you
[12:44] <linux_kid> Napushenko: im a scriptor, not a coder, sorry
[12:44] <nikin> Robbins are you here?
[12:44] <obi-1> ebroder, i get it now
[12:44] <gnutz> How do I make Nautilus always be in sudo mode
[12:44] <gnutz> ?
[12:44] <frogzoo> gnutz: you definitely don't want to do that
[12:45] <Napushenko> linux_kid:okey\
[12:45] <gnutz> Why is that?
[12:45] <obi-1> ebroder, does your floppy grub is configured to boot the partition where the system is installed?
[12:45] <notme> !php
[12:45] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:45] <gnutz> Im learning how to use XAMPP
[12:45] <d1gita1> how do i edit the bootlogo of a livecd?
[12:45] <gnutz> and im sick of puting in a pass word ever time I need to modify a file
[12:46] <ebroder> obi-1: i would assume so. i created it using the grub-floppy command from the target drive after the install was finished
[12:46] <gnutz> Frogzoo
[12:46] <ebroder> obi-1: but i have to run. thanks for your help
[12:46] <black_13> can i upgrade from debian sarge to ubuntu
[12:46] <kitche> black_13: not really unless you want breakages all over
[12:46] <svish> !ati
[12:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:47] <black_13> kitche i got you
[12:47] <HS^> what do i need to do to install cabextract
[12:47] <No1Bri> kitche: I typed the command in the prompt that comes up after I hit ok and, well nothing happens.  I type it and the cursor just goes to the next line down
[12:47] <Seta-San> so is the x64 version of ubuntu screwd up or not?
[12:47] <Slart> HS^: apt-get install cabextract doesn't work?
[12:47] <ikonia> Seta-San: no
[12:47] <roflarn> HS^: sudo apt-get install cabextract
[12:47] <Slart> Seta-San: it's not all bad.. no native flash though
[12:47] <Asc> gnutz: you could try renaming nautilus real.nautilus, and make a shell script named nautilus which reads 'gksu real.nautilus'.  It might not work, but it's worth a try if you're dead set on being incautious.
[12:47] <Seta-San> well, flash sucks anyway
[12:47] <black_13> kitche how about just wiping the partition that has sarge?
[12:48] <Seta-San> ubuntu and kubuntu won't install
[12:48] <Slart> Seta-San: then 64-bit ubuntu is all ok =)
[12:48] <Seta-San> disc images are fine
[12:48] <kitche> No1Bri: hmm that is odd so it just takes you back to a prompt and not something hat looks like >
[12:48] <Seta-San> go to install and it freezes
[12:48] <kitche> black_13: well that will be called a full install and that would work
[12:48] <black_13> kitche of coarse
[12:48] <Slart> Seta-San: tried disconnecting external USB drives etc?
[12:49] <black_13> kitche but this is dual boot laptop
[12:49] <No1Bri> kitche: correct it just a black screen with a " _ " blinking
[12:49] <Slart> Seta-San: if that doesn't work there's always the alternate install cd
[12:49] <Seta-San> like my mouse?
[12:49] <d1gita1> how do i edit the bootlogo of a livecd?  i can edit the pcx but what do i do about the rle?
[12:49] <linux_kid> Seta-San: alt. disc install instead?
[12:49] <black_13> first partition is ntfs and the second is debian sarge
[12:49] <Seta-San> alt disc?
[12:49] <Slart> Seta-San: nah.. mouse should be fine.. but it didn't like my external dvd burner
[12:49] <Slart> !alternate
[12:49] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[12:49] <HS^> Slart:  and roflarn:  it doesnt work , it sais; Package cabextract is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:49] <black_13> but i have no way to install ndisloaders
[12:49] <Seta-San> only things i got is my hp printer
[12:49] <No1Bri> kitche: im pretty sure the disc is good I run the disc checker and it says that its fine 0 checksums failed
[12:49] <Slart> HS^: hold on, I'll check
[12:50] <HS^> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[12:50] <jrib> HS^: have you enabled universe?
[12:50] <HS^> i dont understand this....
[12:50] <HS^> jrib:  i dont know?
[12:50] <Asc> gnutz: Dunno if it'd do what you want though.  It's possible that if the instance of nautilus that runs when gnome starts is sudoed, all subsequent nautilus file manager windows will be.
[12:50] <kitche> No1Bri: ok this is what you probably have to do edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand with nano or vim whichever you choose
[12:50] <jrib> !universe | HS^
[12:50] <ubotu> HS^: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:50] <gameover> my computer is taking too long to boot, it stops in configuring network interfaces
[12:50] <jrib> HS^: you'll need to enable universe to install cabextract
[12:50] <linux_kid> gameover: so do the rest of ours
[12:51] <gnutz> Asc it become a pain when I have to PW every time I want to mode a file
[12:51] <Slart> HS^: system menu, administration, software sources... first page.. check the checkbox for universe
[12:51] <gameover> ???
[12:51] <No1Bri> kitche: by hand? lol im too noob for that, would trying to install from 6.06 be a better route for me?
[12:51] <gnutz> Im just use to haveing a true root account
[12:51] <gnutz>  that way I dont have to be a 1/2 user
[12:51] <binbrain> wondering if anybody could give me some ideas for troubleshooting a strange sound problem after upgrading to edgy. essentailly, sound comes and goes. It seems to happen and random, never consistent
[12:51] <Slart> gnutz: you can always get a root terminal window using sudo su
[12:52] <d1gita1> gnutz:  sudo passwd root                now you have a real root account
[12:52] <jrib> binbrain: does it happen only with particular programs?
[12:52] <kitche> No1Bri: probably
[12:52] <Slart> gnutz: and the root account is there.. it's just disabled.. you can enable it.. see d1gita1's mess
[12:52] <Asc> gnutz: If you really, really, want to you can give the root account a password and log in as root.  But don't complain when your system gets trashed.
[12:52] <gnutz> ok Im still a Gnubie
[12:52] <binbrain> jrib: No I even tried killing x and using the cmd line mpg123 to play a sound
[12:52] <gnutz> thanx you guys
[12:52] <aristoteles> hi
[12:52] <gnutz>  I love this channel
[12:52] <aristoteles> i need a hint
[12:53] <No1Bri> kitche: well thanks for helping me out..... hopefully 6.06 will work and I wont have to come back ;)
[12:53] <jrib> aristoteles: ask a question :)
[12:53] <aristoteles> how do i set my usb sound card the standard device?
[12:53] <Asc> We love you too, gnutz.
[12:53] <Slart> just ask, aristoteles
[12:53] <Slart> oh.. usb sound cards.. never had one of those.. sorry
[12:53] <gnutz> Asc why would my system get trashed on having full privs like normal GNU
[12:53] <aristoteles> the problem is, the standard device changes back
[12:53] <gnutz> ?
[12:53] <Slart> gnutz: rm -rf can play tricks on you ;)
[12:54] <Toran> is there a way to disable a program's audio output via alsa or something outside of that program?
[12:54] <d1gita1> aristotles: i have one.... and if i could get it to work i would help you...
[12:54] <gnutz> is there different bash commands in Ubuntu?
[12:54] <nikin> gnutz: doing an rm -r / can do truble
[12:54] <aristoteles> d1gita1: when i manage i tell you :)
[12:54] <gnutz> and if the is does anyone have a link for them?
[12:54] <Slart> Toran: you can do a echo "myprogramname 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[12:54] <Toran> sweet
[12:55] <Slart> Toran: if you're using the first alsa card for output
[12:55] <Asc> gnutz: Well, having to enter a password is supposed to help people keep from doing anything silly.  I broke my system once or twice with sudoed stuff when I was an ickle newbie.
[12:55] <aristoteles> can someone tell whether the sound modules have to be in a certain position inside /etc/modules?
[12:55] <Toran> I only have one
[12:55] <nikin> gnutz: different 'bash commands'?
[12:55] <Toran> bash: /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss: Permission denied
[12:55] <aristoteles> or how i can keep ubuntu from loading a certain module?
[12:55] <Toran> Even with sudo
[12:55] <gnutz> added bash command
[12:55] <gnutz> for Unbutu
[12:55] <gnutz>  rather
[12:56] <nikin> aristotel.. blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:56] <cafuego_> Slart: Yes, that would only work if you ran 'sudo -s' first.
[12:56] <eitan> Who is the moderator of this channel?
[12:56] <frying_fish> aristoteles: add it to the blacklist
[12:56] <Toran> Nevermind, I got it
[12:56] <cafuego_> Sorry, Toran even.
[12:56] <gnutz> Asc I see what u mean corrupting files ect...
[12:56] <frying_fish> eitan: why?
[12:56] <aristoteles> frying_fish: what is that?
[12:56] <frying_fish> aristoteles: /etc/modules/blacklist I think
[12:56] <aristoteles> and how do i do that?
[12:56] <frying_fish> or something like that
[12:56] <aristoteles> ok
[12:56] <nikin> aristoteles: se my line further up
[12:56] <frying_fish> edit the file, and add the module name
[12:56] <Toran> do I have to restart alsa?
[12:56] <Slart> cafuego: indeed.. forgot about that
[12:57] <ekaeka> hello, can someone here give me information about ubuntu's partitioning slidebar in the desktop install? kind of a newbie question.. :|
[12:57] <gnutz> Does anyone know of a good channel for Install 'Properly' Apache to make it functional
[12:57] <gnutz> installing
[12:57] <jrib> !apache | gnutz
[12:57] <oidia> properly?
[12:57] <ubotu> gnutz: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:57] <frying_fish> gnutz: apt-get install apache doesn't do it?
[12:57] <nikin> gnutz: apt-get install apache2 will do the trick :D it did for me :D
[12:58] <frying_fish> its what I did on both my debian system and ubuntu systems
[12:58] <Slart> Toran: permissions might give you some trouble.. you can do this first sudo su, chmod a+rw -R /proc/asound/card0    it will give you permission to write to the file mentioned
[12:58] <roflarn> any free ftp client that supports ssl?
[12:58] <gnutz> Im running XAMPP
[12:58] <Toran> Slart: I got it in there, but the program is still making noise when I started it
[12:58] <ekaeka> hello? can anyone answer a quick question?
[12:58] <Slart> Toran: there probably is a better way to do that last thing... but that works for me.
[12:58] <gnutz>  got it installed and secured but...
[12:58] <ikonia> ekaeka: ask it
[12:58] <eitan> frying_fish: are you this channel's moderator?
[12:58] <frying_fish> eitan: no, but why do you want to know who they are.
[12:59] <ikonia> eitan: the command !ops shows the operators names
[12:59] <eitan> !ops
[12:59] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[12:59] <Slart> Toran: still making sound?.. hmm.. you sure you could do the echo thing? is the process name correct? check with ps -A
[12:59] <gnutz> Need a master on seting up DIRs in the proper files ect..
[12:59] <numist> ?!
[12:59] <tonyyarusso> eitan: yes?
[12:59] <Toran> Yeah, I checked the process name
[12:59] <Toran> and i know it is in there, I cat'd the file
[12:59] <kitche> eitan: might not want to use that switch when nothing bad is happening
[12:59] <ikonia> kitche: sorry - that was my fault
[12:59] <ikonia> I told him that would inform him of the ops
[12:59] <eitan> tonyyarusso: I need to speak with you about something that happened on this channel.
[01:00] <eitan> tonyyarusso: privately.
[01:00] <Slart> Toran: hmm.. odd.. perhaps you're using some other sound output thingy.. there are many of them.. pcm0p, pcm1p etc...
[01:00] <ekaeka> ikonia: Im at the part in the desktop install of 6.10 where it asks me to resize my main partition, of windows which I wish to keep to dual boot, my question is whether that slider is to give a new size to the existing windows partition or choose a size for the ubuntu partition
[01:00] <tonyyarusso> eitan: Okay, join #ubuntu-ops  (and refrain from using the trigger unless immediate attention is required to correct a problem)
[01:00] <Slart> Toran: I've never seen my box use anything other than the first though
[01:00] <tonyyarusso> ikonia: Next time suggest /msg ubotu :)
[01:00] <ikonia> ekaeka: the silder will resize whatever partition youve selected
[01:01] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: understood
[01:01] <aristoteles> nikin: ok, i am taking a chance on your hint. thanks, brb
[01:01] <nikin> aristoteles: nm
[01:01] <aleka> I had a problem with Skype droping my microphone after 2 minutes.... I just installed Gizmo to see if it is a problem with my mic or if it was just a Skype issue.. My question is.. Does Gizmo have a testing call center?? How can I check my Mic works with Gizmo?
[01:02] <ekaeka> ikonia: alright, so Im resizing the windows partition then, which is 66.8GB, and if I want the ubuntu partition to be 10gb, I would reduce that to 56.8, correct?
[01:02] <nalioth> eitan: join #ubuntu-ops please
[01:02] <ikonia> ekaeka: yes you'll have to reduce it to hae enough space to create the ubuntu partition when you're asked to do so
[01:02] <ikonia> understand what I mean ?
[01:03] <kyhx> !wine-use
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wine-use - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <notme> aleka you can call me on gizmo
[01:03] <kyhx> !wine
[01:03] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:03] <MindFreak> I have a quick question for someone, how do I get FIREFOX to open local .php as html
[01:03] <notme> aleka one sec
[01:03] <ekaeka> err, well Im being asked right now to make a partition, at step 5 of 6 in the desktop install, and I asume that 10gb is adequate for ubuntu
[01:04] <aoupi> MindFreak: you need a webserver that supports php
[01:04] <jrib> MindFreak: has nothing to do with firefox
[01:04] <mnoir> MindFreak: as html or as php?
[01:04] <ikonia> ekaeka: enough for a base install
[01:04] <nikin> MF: install webserver and php
[01:04] <MindFreak> I would like it to open .php files in Firefox to view it as an HTML Mime
[01:04] <ekaeka> ikonia: base install? what other install options would there be? Im running the live dvd right now of 6.10
[01:04] <elyon> What is a good directory to store files used by all the users of my system?
[01:05] <elyon> More specifically, MP3
[01:05] <Slart> MindFreak: you want to look at the PHP source code using a html -viewer?
[01:05] <ikonia> ekaeka: well you can eat up space if you install say - a web server, or a mail server
[01:05] <mnoir> elyon: something in /var
[01:05] <elyon> oh grr... I have to reboot?  None of my drives are mounted and it says it can't mount them.
[01:05] <mnoir> elyon: or maybe /media
[01:05] <MindFreak> well, I designed my site, and instead of them being .html files, they are .php because some of the code requires it to be named .php instead of .html
[01:05] <doofy> is there a good tutorial for installing compiz with fglrx
[01:05] <MindFreak> so I would like to view my index.php through firefox
[01:05] <elyon> mnoir:  thanks.
[01:06] <stoorty> ekaeka: a base install if what you need to get and running
[01:06] <Slart> MindFreak: you can't just rename them, look at them and then rename them back?
[01:06] <ekaeka> ikonia: ah, no, Im a simple user just looking to dual boot windows and ubuntu to learn more about linux and migrate from windows, nothing fancy involving networking :)
[01:06] <stoorty> is*
[01:06] <ikonia> ekaeka: thats great - you'll be fine with 10 GB
[01:06] <MindFreak> www.sk0t.com/index.php
[01:06] <MindFreak> that shows my site.
[01:06] <Slart> MindFreak: although there should be a way to just look at them using firefox or anything
[01:06] <mnoir> MindFreak: do you mean they have to work like on a webserver?
[01:06] <ikonia> just keep in mind if you download say a dvd image to burn you'll soon eat up space
[01:06] <sn00p|> Does anybody know of a good ftp client for ubuntu that uses ssl?
[01:06] <linux_kid> MindFreak: i did the same years ago in xp, what i did was use the Opera browser, see if it works in linux
[01:06] <Slart> sn00p|: don't know if gftp uses ssl.. but I think it's ok
[01:06] <stoorty> ekaeka: its like you windows setup, if you want to add or remove stuff to your preference
[01:07] <ikonia> sn00p|: does gftp not have ssl  ?
[01:07] <MindFreak> I thought my editing the php in /etc/mime.types    and adding php to the text/html area it would work
[01:07] <MindFreak> and it didnt
[01:07] <sn00p|> Slart, well ilt says it does but I don tknow how to work ssl
[01:07] <ikonia> MindFreak: no
[01:07] <stoorty> just do it when installing
[01:07] <sn00p|> ikonia, I dont know how to figur eit out
[01:07] <jrib> MindFreak: but you'll end up seeing  <?php echo "foo"; ?>  in your browser.  This is what you want?
[01:07] <ikonia> it needs to be "served up"
[01:07] <Slart> sn00p|: hmm.. I'll check.. hold on
[01:07] <sn00p|> Slart, ok
[01:07] <ikonia> as php is server side
[01:07] <mnoir> MindFreak: install apache2 and php
[01:07] <MindFreak> no I want the site to view like it would a normal html file
[01:07] <MindFreak> firefox to view php as html
[01:08] <MindFreak> I dont really need apache though
[01:08] <ikonia> MindFreak: you can't do that
[01:08] <MindFreak> I mean if that is a last resort I can.
[01:08] <in10city> anybody know of a good room to go to for mythtv help?
[01:08] <mnoir> MindFreak: php code is NOT NORMAL IN AN html file
[01:08] <ikonia> php is server side so it will just show the code
[01:08] <ekaeka> alright, well I think Ill be fine with 10gb to start, for now anyway, thanks :)
[01:08] <genben> hi all, i am trying to make a sandisk 1GB usbstick bootable on ubuntu edgy eft, used parted to make a fat16 partition, now i can seem to mount it, getting wrong FS type on the mount. what should i be using? ... msdos, vfat
[01:08] <genben> i can't seem*
[01:08] <MindFreak> listen, if you rename a .html to .php and load into your browser it will show like any other HTML file
[01:09] <MindFreak> and that is what I want firefox to read it as.
[01:09] <ikonia> MindFreak: no it won't
[01:09] <MindFreak> YES IT WILL.
[01:09] <MindFreak> all my sites are designed like that
[01:09] <MindFreak> www.sk0t.com
[01:09] <ikonia> if you have php code in it - it won't execute the code
[01:09] <kitche> genben: did you format it also?
[01:09] <MindFreak> all are .PHP
[01:09] <jrib> MindFreak: it will if your php file doesn't actually have any php
[01:09] <cafuego_> MindFreak: call it .phps
[01:09] <aleka> Is anybody using the webmail extension from Mozdev for thunderbird?
[01:09] <Znarken> can some1 here help med with x server?
[01:09] <genben> kitche: hmm
[01:09] <milaks> Hello. I'm using ubuntu EE i386, and have recently installed Kubuntu-desktop also, in hope that it will be significantly faster. It's faster, but still (K)Ubuntu (system and applications) is a lot slower thank Windows XP. I'have AMD Athlon 64 3000+ and 2 GB of RAM. My question is: If I install (K)ubuntu for amd64 will I also have in repositry most applications compiled for A64 (KDE, Gnome, Sylpheed...)?
[01:09] <ikonia> oooh you mean just a php extension of php - not actually containing any php
[01:09] <MindFreak> wellyes
[01:09] <aoupi> MindFreak: yes, but then the webserver sees that it is a php file and run the php code in it
[01:09] <MindFreak> YES
[01:10] <ikonia> MindFreak: why would you want to do that ?
[01:10] <MindFreak> well how can I get .PHP to read as .HTML, since I dont want to rename them all to .HTML
[01:10] <cafuego_> aoupi: No, it only does that for files with the correct file extension.
[01:10] <linux_kid> genben: why use fat16 instead of FAT
[01:10] <ikonia> whats the point of putting html into a .php extension
[01:10] <ikonia> other than to make people thing the site is written in php
[01:10] <aoupi> cafuego_: yes of course
[01:10] <kitsuneofdoom> Ok. My hard drive was wiped, and I want to put LVM on my Ubuntu system. How would I go about installing Ubuntu with LVM support
[01:10] <cafuego_> MindFreak: Tell the php module to not parse files ending in .php
[01:10] <Znarken> How i shutdown "x"?
[01:10] <Slart> sn00p|: hmm.. didn't find anything after a quick glance and doing some googling suggests that gftp doesn't support SSL without external software
[01:10] <genben> i used the howto from rene mayrhofer and he said if the usbstick is smaller than 2GB, to use fat16
[01:10] <MindFreak> well some of my sites have PHP Code in them, so they need to be .PHP, but it was more convenience to keep it organized
[01:10] <linux_kid> ikonia: it has its purposes to end files in php
[01:10] <aoupi> Znarken: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:10] <cafuego_> kitsuneofdoom: Pick 'LVM" when the installer asks how to partition the system,
[01:10] <Znarken> tried that....
[01:10] <ikonia> kitsuneofdoom: select the advanced istall options
[01:10] <LinTux> How can I get the flash plugin working in firefox, I am running x64 Bit
[01:11] <ikonia> linux_kid: educate me
[01:11] <sn00p|> Slart, do you know if there is any ftp client for linux that does offer ssl?
[01:11] <cafuego_> kitsuneofdoom: ... or do a manual partition and set up LVM by hand.
[01:11] <kitsuneofdoom> ikonia: just from the normal install disk?
[01:11] <Znarken> the screen just go black and no terminal appears=S
[01:11] <ikonia> LinTux: search for restricted formats in the wiki
[01:11] <ikonia> kitsuneofdoom: yes
[01:11] <twb> I am building customized bootable CDs based on the Edgy desktop live CD.  I find that gdm no longer starts up correctly; complaining about "the greeter application appears to be crashing."  Is anyone intersted in helping me isolate the fault?
[01:11] <aoupi> sn00p|: kasablanca and gftp supports ftps
[01:11] <kitsuneofdoom> ikonia: thanks
[01:11] <notme> kitusneofdoom great name
[01:11] <mnoir> linux_kid: yeah - that way the pure html files can load slowly since they need to be parsed
[01:11] <ikonia> twb: config issues
[01:11] <sn00p|> aoupi, how do you configure gftp for ssl?
[01:11] <LinTux> ikonia: Cheers
[01:11] <Slart> sn00p|: ftp-ssl says it does.. haven't used it though
[01:11] <JosefK> MindFreak, you could put together a sed to strip all the PHP instructions from your code, then rename the file to .html
[01:11] <aoupi> sn00p|: one sec I'll have a look
[01:12] <JosefK> MindFreak, you may not get the output you want though...
[01:12] <genben> kitche: this is what i used => http://www.mayrhofer.eu.org/Default.aspx?pageindex=7&pageid=45
[01:12] <MindFreak> I guess if nothing else works I can rename them all, but I though there would be an easier way
[01:12] <twb> ikonia: I suspect that my modified casper package (which includes code from Debian's casper) is tweaking a GDM setting that is broken in Ubuntu but not Debian.
[01:13] <ikonia> twb possible
[01:13] <MindFreak> why wouldnt changing the MIME TYPE help?
[01:13] <ikonia> look at the logs
[01:13] <linux_kid> ikonia: back in the summer when i did web design, i wanted to put a news section on a site with a script like <php> ? !txt file.txt </php> or somthing like that, and it only works if the extension is php
[01:13] <twb> ikonia: what logs?
[01:13] <aoupi> sn00p|: hmm I can't see how to do it, maybe I was thinking of sftp, but I know kasablanca supports ftps
[01:13] <mnoir> MindFreak: there prolly is but it is very uncommon to want to do this
[01:13] <cmt^^> someone wanna help me getting tv-out working properly with an ati radeon x700, vlc 0.8.6 and ubuntu edgy?
[01:13] <Valmarko> what are gtk2 engines ?
[01:13] <ikonia> linux_kid: yes - of couse, but if you put just html into a .php file - whats the point as there is no php to execute
[01:13] <sn00p|> aoupi, sftp offer gui?
[01:13] <MindFreak> ALL: thanks, I will keep exploring
[01:13] <ikonia> cmt^^: thats going ot be a real fight
[01:14] <cmt^^> ikonia - I know :<
[01:14] <Valmarko> !gtk
[01:14] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[01:14] <bruenig> shouldn't it be gimptk
[01:14] <cmt^^> I get tv-out working (sort of) with vlc -V x11, but then it forces ascii-art video rendering
[01:14] <aoupi> sn00p|: sftp is file-transfer over ssh, you want a client that supports SSL and ftp, kasablanca does that, if you want to transfer over sftp gftp supports sftp
[01:14] <sn00p|> aoupi, i dont use kde tho
[01:14] <linux_kid> ikonia: im not that much into complex coding (2 me thats everything but html:) ) and just found a tutorial that said to do that
[01:14] <milaks> If I install (K)ubuntu for amd64 will I also have in repositry most or all applications compiled  for A64 (KDE, Gnome, Sylpheed...)?
[01:15] <milaks> I'm currently using (k)ubuntu for i386
[01:15] <cafuego_> milaks: Yes, but do note that flash, java and video may not work.
[01:15] <ikonia> milaks: everything will be built for amd64
[01:15] <aoupi> sn00p|: me neither... but I Installed kasablanca just for ftps, you could use lftp but there is no gui for it
[01:15] <JosefK> milaks, yes, most things, realplayer, zsnes and flash being some of the exceptions
[01:15] <bruenig> milaks, yes you will but there will be some apps unavailable because they haven't been ported to 64 bit but the ones you download from the repos will be already compiled for your arch
[01:15] <Valmarko> where can I get kubuntu (latest version)?
[01:15] <aleka> I had a problem with Skype droping my microphone after 2 minutes.... I just installed Gizmo to see if it is a problem with my mic or if it was just a Skype issue.. My question is.. Does Gizmo have a testing call center?? How can I check my Mic works with Gizmo?
[01:16] <black_13> does the ubuntu install contain ndisloader
[01:16] <mnoir> !kubuntu | Valmarko
[01:16] <ubotu> Valmarko: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[01:16] <Slart> sn00p|: oh.. gftp does support it.. just look at top right corner.. you can select connection type
[01:16] <ikonia> black_13: I don't think so
[01:16] <kitche> black_13: it has ndiswrapper
[01:16] <ikonia> I stand corrected
[01:16] <milaks> If I would'nt have realplayer and java (which is essential to me) will I be inable to download and install 32-bit version from repository?
[01:16] <ikonia> milaks: its quite long winded
[01:17] <sn00p|> Slart, is it fsp?
[01:17] <milaks> ikonia: ?
[01:17] <bruenig> milaks, not sure of from the repo, you could do it manually and there are some howtos on the forums to do so, java and flash at least, not sure about realplayer
[01:17] <aoupi> Slart: do you have ftps there in gftp?
[01:17] <ikonia> milaks: do you have a reason to want 64bit
[01:17] <Slart> sn00p|: fsp and ssh2
[01:17] <sn00p|> ok
[01:17] <black_13> ndiswrapper is the library/prog that allows you to use drivers made for windows (win32)
[01:17] <ikonia> milaks: to install 32bit apps on a 64bit platform is long winded
[01:17] <notme> aleka: did you want to try that?
[01:17] <Slart> sn00p|: you might have to tell where the ssh executable is located.. but apart from that it looks doable
[01:17] <milaks> ikonia: yes, I want to speed up system a little, it's a lot slower that windows xp
[01:17] <LinTux> Ikonia: how can I download and install the 32-Bit firefox in x64 as when I go to their site it makes me download the 64-Bit version?
[01:18] <bruenig> long-winded seems like bad terminology
[01:18] <ikonia> milaks: 64bit install won't speed it up to the naked eye
[01:18] <aleka> notme I was asking for your username in a private window.. you never responded
[01:18] <milaks> ikonia: but Athlon 64 should work wiht 32bit apps witout problems, right?
[01:18] <aoupi> Slart: he wants ftps (ftp + SSL)
[01:18] <notme> I did but my nic is not registered
[01:18] <ikonia> milaks: the cpu does - the OS doesn't
[01:18] <sn00p|> Slart, does work that well.
[01:18] <xorg62> you say if i can install KDE on UBUNTU?
[01:18] <ikonia> LinTux: look at the wiki page
[01:18] <cmt^^> milaks - i'm using an athlon 64 with ubuntu 32 bit
[01:18] <kitche> milaks: your system will be double the size
[01:18] <sn00p|> I got kasablanca to work
[01:18] <sn00p|> thanks tho
[01:18] <jrib> !kde | xorg62
[01:18] <ubotu> xorg62: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[01:18] <milaks> Same
[01:19] <ikonia> milaks: 32bit on x86_64 is fine
[01:19] <xorg62> thank
[01:19] <Slart> aoupi: oh..I thought he said ssh... or.. didn't he?..
[01:19] <notme> aleka I typed a bunch i didnt realize you couldnt see it. I will register it. one sec
[01:19] <milaks> if that wont seep up the system than I dont know what else to do about that
[01:19] <elyon> I can't create a folder in my /media/ directory, mnoir
[01:19] <ikonia> 32bit on ubuntu x86_^4 is tough
[01:19] <xorg62> thank you
[01:19] <aleka> notme: join #notme so I can pickout your username in there and head back here
[01:19] <aoupi> Slart: briefly :)
[01:19] <jrib> elyon: how are you tryign to create one?
[01:19] <ikonia> milaks: what are you finding slow
[01:19] <milaks> My Ubunutu system is roughly three or four times slower than windows xp on other partition
[01:19] <cafuego_> milaks: Yep, I run a 32bit system on my amd64. I've found too much stuff that I need or want doesn't work right on 64bit (yet).
[01:19] <Slart> aoupi: my bad then =/
[01:19] <elyon> jrib:  within gnome.  I assume now I should be root?
[01:20] <jrib> elyon: yep, use sudo.  For example,  sudo mkdir /media/foobar
[01:20] <elyon> gotcha... thanks, jrib
[01:21] <liam_> hello?
[01:21] <milaks> ikonia: Starting up (althoug I do not start some big services like mysql or apache), programs (kmail, amarok for exmaple) starting, and program reactions (but this last one is not too significant).
[01:21] <liam_> how come i cannot get into options on firefoz in ubuntu
[01:21] <elyon> Oh great... yet ANOTHER problem.  Now my Drives are not mounting.  My hard drive, yes... but my digital camera, card reader, cd-roms, mp3 player... none of those are working.  They are LISTED, but I can't mount them.  Any ideas?
[01:21] <liam_> i want to set the home page
[01:22] <ikonia> milaks: what video card do you have and how much ram do you have
[01:22] <jrib> liam_: what ahppens when you go to the "edit" > "preferences" menu?
[01:22] <linux_kid> liam_ unless u have a lot of bookmarks, do a reinstall of package "firefox" in synaptic
[01:22] <liam_> shutup
[01:22] <liam_> sorry dude im such a windows user
[01:22] <ikonia> liam_: that was uncalled for
[01:22] <milaks> ikonia: I find almost every program starting too slow. I have AMD Athlon 3000+, 2 GB of RAM and PCI Nvidia card with 128 MB on it
[01:22] <liam_> i was jokin mate
[01:22] <liam_> sorry
[01:22] <cwillu> My desktop just crashed;  I really don't want to reboot this machine (has a couple services running that'll disrupt others).  When I log into the desktop, I just get a blank (but coloured) screen, although I hear the ubuntu login sound.
[01:23] <xorg62> and gnome always will go?
[01:23] <milaks> ikonia: PCI-E video card, sorry
[01:23] <ikonia> milaks: what video card driver are you using in xorg
[01:23] <doofy> how do you make beryl start up with xgl... i can get it to work, but i would like beryl-manager to start when i log in
[01:23] <JosefK> cwillu, no luck with Ctl+Alt+Backspace?
[01:23] <milaks> ikonia: Nvidia's
[01:23] <ikonia> milaks: the "perception" of slow is often caused by the wrong video card driver
[01:23] <ikonia> milaks: nvidia - or nv
[01:23] <cwillu> JosefK: nope
[01:23] <milaks> ikonia: from repository: nvidia-glx
[01:23] <cwillu> JosefK: it restarts the x server, I log in, but I log into the same problem
[01:23] <ikonia> doofy: /join #ubuntu-xgl - great support there
[01:23] <ikonia> milaks: wow - thats a surprise
[01:23] <jrib> doofy: I just add beryl-manager in system > prefernces > sessions
[01:23] <milaks> ikonia: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf it its "nvidia"
[01:23] <cwillu> I can log in via the failsafe terminal, but not failsafe gnome.  I can then launch metacity fine, but gnome-session manager just plays the music and hangs
[01:23] <ikonia> I thought I had an easy fix for you then
[01:23] <JosefK> cwillu, I think it's time to notify people of some impending downtime :)
[01:24] <cwillu> JosefK: I'm typing this from gaim on the same machine
[01:24] <cwillu> JosefK: I just can't get the desktop to come up
[01:24] <ikonia> milaks: ubuntu flies on every box I've got it on, even ones lower spec'ed than yours
[01:24] <ikonia> there must be a config error somewhere
[01:24] <milaks> ikonia: look, it is now toooooo slow, but it is significantly slower (three of four times) in every aspect than Windows XP
[01:24] <JosefK> cwillu, oh, I think I know what you mean - by desktop you mean icons?
[01:24] <JosefK> cwillu, 'killall nautilus'
[01:25] <ikonia> milaks: I find that hard to see, simpley because of my own experience
[01:25] <cwillu> JosefK: or gnome-panel's, etc
[01:25] <dm_> Is there anyway to run a KDE app in GTK mode ( running KDE app, with the looks and feel of gnome...
[01:25] <ikonia> (I'm not saying your wrong)
[01:25] <ikonia> dm_: no
[01:25] <cwillu> killall nautilus:  no process killed
[01:25] <liam_> sorry again folks, but can sum1 help me get superkaramba? i have tried the apt get and search but find nothing!
[01:25] <ikonia> dm_: kde uses qt
[01:25] <mnoir> dm_: that is exactly impossible
[01:25] <ikonia> liam_: apt-cache search superkarmaba
[01:25] <dm_> ikonia was afraid of that, i hate kde.
[01:25] <ikonia> dm_: why did you installl it then
[01:26] <JosefK> cwillu, ah :/ killall gnome-panel I guess, anything that looks like it's hung
[01:26] <dm_> ikonia i didnt, i am running kbluetoothd for connectivity for my mouse and my cell phones FTP
[01:26] <ikonia> dm_: why not just run the gnome equiv
[01:26] <mnoir> dm_: you can however, run kde-based apps in gnome.  they will just look the same
[01:26] <ikonia> it has a bluetooth manager
[01:27] <dm_> ikonia there is none that i know off, not with a daemon
[01:27] <dm_> mnoir i know
[01:27] <mnoir> kbluetoothd will run in gnome
[01:27] <ikonia> dm_: there is - can't think of it off the top of my head
[01:27] <dm_> mnoir i know this, im running it, but i hate the fact it looks like KDE stuff and runs it in konq
[01:28] <milaks> ikonia: but it is like that. For instance: Windows XP completes starting up in about ~20 secs, and Ubuntu completes starting up in about ~1.5 min.
[01:28] <cwillu> JosefK:   looks like this was the culprit:  /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
[01:28] <ikonia> milaks: something is wrong with your install
[01:28] <ikonia> even on my laptop its about 30 seconds
[01:28] <JosefK> milaks, maybe add 'noapic' 'nolapic' to your kopt?
[01:28] <dm_> milaks have you tried turning off some stuff that runs at boot up ? like printer support and stuff?
[01:28] <cwillu> thanks!
[01:28] <JosefK> cwillu, heh, n1 tracking that down
[01:28] <liam_> thanks ikonia much help and appreciated :D
[01:28] <ikonia> liam_: welcome
[01:28] <NexusL> oye, ok perhaps someone could assist me with a minor installation issue with 6.10 on a Inspiron 6400
[01:29] <notme> !lamp
[01:29] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:29] <milaks> ikonia: Outlook Express, TheBat or Outlook start in at most 5 sec. while kamail takes about 10-15 secs.
[01:29] <elyon> Could someone help me get my MP3 player and card reader working again?  They worked earlier today, but now they can't be mounted for some reason.
[01:29] <linux_kid> milaks: just reinstall
[01:29] <ikonia> milaks: sub 2 second here on a much slower laptop
[01:29] <cmt^^> http://pastebin.se/5385 <- the error i get when using vlc -V x11, how do I fix it?
[01:29] <milaks> JosefK: noapic to kopt?
[01:29] <Slart> is there a vnc viewer version that supports zoom?
[01:30] <linux_kid> elyon: what have you changed on your comp today?
[01:30] <milaks> dm_: I've already turned off some services but still with no significant impovement
[01:30] <NexusL> i seem to be getting a error i have never ran into before during the first few seconds of setup error is "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" any ideas?
[01:30] <Rprp> Hmm, i downloaded and installed a sec ago a new login screen, but still its not in the list, where can i find the new login screen!?!?
[01:30] <elyon> linux_kid:  Had problems getting gparted installed... that's all I can think of.
[01:30] <dm_> milaks what kind of system you running?
[01:30] <milaks> ikonia: ?
[01:30] <Valmarko> what is a gtk2 engine ?
[01:30] <JosefK> milaks, in the grub menu, add 'noapic nolapic' to the end of the options for a test, see if that can speed it up
[01:30] <bianconeri> Guys I have a Harddisk panic...I mistakenly formatted my 200GB drive...is there any way I could retrieve it??!!!! Thanks in advance
[01:30] <dm_> milaks are you running beryl ? and what is in your session on start up commands
[01:30] <ikonia> milaks: pardon ?
[01:30] <kitche> Valmarko: lets you use a theme that is gtk2
[01:30] <milaks> dm_: Athlon 3000+ and 2GB of RAM
[01:30] <dm_> milaks im not an amd user, english please
[01:31] <linux_kid> elyon: well, gparted messes with discs, so i say do a complete removal of it.  if you need it, use the live cd
[01:31] <Valmarko> but, after I install such theme, where can I activate it ?
[01:31] <kalyugi> hi guys
[01:31] <dm_> milaks whats the ghz on your cpu iow
[01:31] <kalyugi> has anyone tried using the at command with btdownloadcurses
[01:31] <kitche> Valmarko: same spot where you active the others
[01:31] <dm_> Valmarko gnome?
[01:31] <Valmarko> yes
[01:31] <liam_> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[01:31] <liam_>   amsn: Depends: imlib11 but it is not going to be installed
[01:31] <liam_>         Depends: sox but it is not going to be installed
[01:31] <milaks> dm_: CPU AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (1.8Ghz)
[01:31] <kalyugi> i cant get the at command to schedule btdownloadcurses
[01:31] <kalyugi> im trying to schedule a download
[01:31] <liam_> its says that when i try and install amsn :s
[01:32] <dm_> milaks running the 64 bit kernel correct?
[01:32] <bianconeri> Is anybody here able to help??
[01:32] <milaks> JosefK: to add both  'noapic' and 'nolapic' at the end of the line.
[01:32] <ikonia> brianMan: ask
[01:32] <cafuego_> bianconeri: There is a tool that might be able to help you out, but I can't rememebr its name.
[01:32] <milaks> dm_: No it's "usual" Ubuntu i386 Edgy Eft system
[01:32] <brianMan> ikonia?
[01:32] <Valmarko> for example , theres a gtk2 engine for theme called wonderland. If I install it, you're saying that I just have to open themes manager?
[01:33] <dm_> milaks  that could be a problem then
[01:33] <milaks> ikonia: <ikonia> milaks: sub 2 second here on a much slower lapto> ?
[01:33] <ikonia> bianconeri: ask the question
[01:33] <kitche> ikonia: he did
[01:33] <ikonia> brianMan: sorr - typo
[01:33] <elyon> linux_kid:  Synaptic says its not even installed and running apt-get remove gparted will remove a LOT of software
[01:33] <ikonia> I missed it
[01:33] <brianMan> k
[01:33] <dm_> milaks u are not taking advantage of the 64 bit processor, now let me ask you this is the windows version 20 second bootup a 64 bit os?
[01:33] <ikonia> I thought it was brian man
[01:33] <kitche> bianconeri: try the systemrescuecd
[01:33] <bianconeri> I have a Harddisk panic...I mistakenly formatted my 200GB drive...is there any way I could retrieve it??!!!!
[01:33] <JosefK> milaks, the only time I've seen lagging like that was on a machine with an old board that needed to have 'noapic nolapic'
[01:33] <ikonia> the screen scrolled too quick
[01:33] <linux_kid> elyon: well, somthing IS skrewed with gparted then
[01:34] <milaks> dm_: well that is waht we are talking about, should I install version for AMD 64, but peopke say that they dont have problems with ubuntu i386 on Amd 64, and still some apps wouldnt work
[01:34] <ikonia> bianconeri: how did you format it
[01:34] <liam_> anyone know what the problem with this is?
[01:34] <liam_> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[01:34] <liam_>   amsn: Depends: imlib11 but it is not going to be installed
[01:34] <liam_>         Depends: sox but it is not going to be installed
[01:34] <linux_kid> i say try to install gparted in terminal
[01:34] <bianconeri> qtparted
[01:34] <dm_> milaks personally, i would, no point in not doing it, its a simple install with ubuntu,
[01:34] <ikonia> liam_: what command have you done
[01:34] <ikonia> bianconeri: did you save the partition table ?
[01:34] <liam_> sudo apt-get install amsn
[01:34] <dm_> milaks is the windows u were running, a 64 bit OS?
[01:35] <jrib> liam_: pastebin the result of "apt-cache policy amsn" and the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list please
[01:35] <jrib> !pastebin | liam_
[01:35] <milaks> dm_: Windows XP takes about 20 secs to completly boot up
[01:35] <ubotu> liam_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:35] <ikonia> liam_: does it say why they won't be installed - eg: are they in the repos you want
[01:35] <bianconeri> no I didn't I thought it was the thumb drive!!
[01:35] <dm_> milaks but is it 64 bit windows
[01:35] <cafuego_> bianconeri: Maybe try 'testdisk' (but DO NOT under any circumstance write to the disk until after recovery :-)
[01:35] <ikonia> ahh so you've not saved the partition table, you should be able to recover
[01:35] <elyon> linux_kid:  I can RUN gparted, though.. but when I do, it just says "Scanning all devices" and hangs with that.
[01:35] <milaks> dm_: I have one ADSL modem that is a little pesky to isntall again (besides other stuff).
[01:35] <liam_> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[01:35] <liam_> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[01:35] <liam_> that package should be filed.
[01:35] <elyon> xtknight:  You there?
[01:35] <milaks> dm_: no it is Windows XP for 32-bit processors
[01:35] <ikonia> liam_: bug report it up
[01:36] <liam_> ...:s
[01:36] <bianconeri> I already wrote to it around 600 mb ....again thinking it was the thumb drive!!
[01:36] <ikonia> liam_: try installing the deps manually
[01:36] <Skrot_> Hi. I'm running a custom kernel with a custom compile of ipw3945-drivers. If I install a linux-image, lets say linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic, will it include the ipw3945 shipped by ubuntu?
[01:36] <ikonia> apt-get install $dep-name
[01:36] <milaks> dm_: It is Windows XP 32-bit
[01:36] <dm_> milaks hmm, weird, my linux takes not as long as vista takes to boot, but im running dual core intel laptop with a 667mhz FSB and mem the smae speed
[01:36] <linux_kid> elyon: can you do an install in synaptic?
[01:36] <ikonia> Skrot_: yes
[01:36] <elyon> linux_kid:  I tried that and it appeared to be successful.
[01:36] <aN1> hi can someone plz explain the diff between mount -t proc none & mount -t proc proc?
[01:37] <cafuego_> bianconeri: Then most likely you have no chance of recovering anything, but give it a try anyway...
[01:37] <ikonia> Skrot_: well - if you install the ipw945 package it will
[01:37] <elyon> linux_kid:  But running gparted after that just does the same thing.
[01:37] <milaks> Here one more example: In windows FireFox starts almost instantaneously, while in Linux it takes about 20 secs.
[01:37] <liam_> how do i install them manually?
[01:37] <dm_> milaks thats a pretty decent cpu you have, have you tried "Boot up manager " BUM
[01:37] <shpond> ok
[01:37] <Skrot_> ikonia: I see. apt-cache search ipw3945 did not reveal any package for that
[01:37] <ikonia> cafuego if he's not saved the partition table - won't he be ok to just save
[01:37] <JosefK> milaks, I'm pretty sure you need to look at some special boot options for your system
[01:37] <bianconeri> :O....
[01:37] <ikonia> Skrot_: think its under ipw2000
[01:37] <ikonia> or something
[01:37] <cafuego_> ikonia: He's already written to the disk
[01:37] <milaks> dm_: Yes, I have. It is there where I deselect CUPS for example.
[01:37] <bianconeri> really? Because I wrote on it...I lost everything??
[01:37] <ikonia> liam_: same way as amsn - but replace amsn with the dep package name
[01:38] <dm_> milaks, edgy eft?
[01:38] <kalyugi> this has to be the most helpful channel
[01:38] <kalyugi> NOT
[01:38] <ikonia> cafuego- I missed that part - sorry
[01:38] <milaks> JosefK: any more advices as to where should I look for that ?
[01:38] <ikonia> kalyugi: whats up - and whats with the attitude
[01:38] <milaks> dm_: yes
[01:38] <linux_kid> elyon: welllllllllll i say this: can u find the card reader and digi camera in device manager?
[01:38] <milaks> dm_:  up to date
[01:38] <kalyugi> the attitude is a result of the experience
[01:38] <kalyugi> i have had
[01:38] <JosefK> milaks, google your PC make, or just try 'noapic nolapic' as suggested
[01:38] <Rancho> CUANTA GENTE HAY EN ESTE CANAL????
[01:38] <jrib> !es | Rancho
[01:38] <cmt^^> how do I change the resolution for my tv to not show only parts of the desktop (when playing movies and such)
[01:38] <ubotu> Rancho: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:38] <ikonia> kalyugi: why has it been bad
[01:38] <ikonia> and whats the problem
[01:38] <dm_> milaks i have seen some users complain about long boot up times, its not a huge deal, but its annoying at most, it might be a bug in the kernel not yet fixed
[01:39] <kalyugi> ive come to this channel like on 6 different times mate
[01:39] <Rancho> q pasa jrib ??
[01:39] <Rancho> no entiendo?!
[01:39] <ikonia> dm_: a common part is the mod probe for certin drivers
[01:39] <elyon> linux_kid:  yes.
[01:39] <kalyugi> and have never got an acknowledgment to a single question
[01:39] <AaronfromChina> Ubuntu 6.06 is LTS (long term support), how about 6.10 ?
[01:39] <milaks> JosefK: I'll try adding  'noapic nolapic'  for sure, thanks, I thought that there may be some HOWTO or something like that about this topic...
[01:39] <kalyugi> not even a "i dont know"
[01:39] <liam_> how do i find the dep package name?
[01:39] <jrib> AaronfromChina: 6.10 is not LTS
[01:39] <squeaks> i downloaded an .orig.tar.gz, .diff.gz, and .dsc files for a package not yet in the unstable repository, i can't seem to find any information on how to compile (?) these into a .deb or something, can anyone point me to the right information?
[01:39] <Agrajag> no hablamos espanol aqui, Rancho
[01:39] <JosefK> milaks, there probably is somewhere, two secs
[01:39] <dm_> ikonia i think i was reading something about that..
[01:39] <elyon> linux_kid:  And I can see them in /media/, but can't mount them.
[01:39] <ikonia> kalyugi: if people don't know they don't say or there would be loads of people saying "I don't know all the time"
[01:39] <Rancho> okok!!!
[01:39] <linux_kid> elyon : ok, so we messed with some auto-mounting script
[01:39] <kalyugi> fair enuf
[01:39] <ikonia> kalyugi: whats the question
[01:40] <jrib> liam_: it tells you, for example sox.   But please pastebin the info I asked about before
[01:40] <aztek> Is there a way to set a console to run a program after a period of inactivity? Not logout, but actually launch a program.
[01:40] <linux_kid> in /media/ can you access them?
[01:40] <kalyugi> btdownloadcurses and the at command
[01:40] <JosefK> milaks, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[01:40] <elyon> linux_kid:  No.  When I try, it says it could not be mounted.
[01:40] <ikonia> kalyugi: what about it
[01:40] <kalyugi> im trying to schedule btdownloadcurses to download a torrent at a specific time'
[01:40] <ikonia> ok
[01:40] <ikonia> and......
[01:40] <milaks> dm_: Honestly, I do not think it's a bug in kernel, also it's not only booting up slow, apps are also, not slow, but much slower than on Windows XP
[01:40] <liam_> amsn:
[01:40] <liam_>   Installed: (none)
[01:40] <liam_>   Candidate: 0.95-1
[01:40] <liam_>   Version table:
[01:40] <liam_>      0.95-1 0
[01:40] <linux_kid> elyon: what fs is on the card you are trying to read?
[01:40] <liam_>         500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages
[01:40] <kalyugi> and i cant get it to run and display the poutput to /dev/pts/1
[01:40] <ikonia> milaks: thats the part thats frustrating
[01:41] <dm_> liam use paste bin pls
[01:41] <elyon> linux_kid:  I have no idea... I've never needed to know
[01:41] <jrib> liam_: not here, use pastebin
[01:41] <liam_> ok sorry
[01:41] <kalyugi> with the bash scripts time arithmetic is almost impossible
[01:41] <linux_kid> !pastebin | liam_
[01:41] <ubotu> liam_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:41] <ikonia> kalyugi: what is the command your using
[01:41] <dm_> milaks my best suggestion, install the 64 bit kernel. sorry i cant help more
[01:41] <kalyugi> at now
[01:41] <liam_> uve seen it now though right?
[01:41] <milaks> JosefK: Thanks for the address, I'll look inot it.
[01:41] <linux_kid> elyon: do you have M$ windows
[01:41] <ikonia> kalyugi: stick the full command in a pastebin
[01:41] <jrib> liam_: yes, now the other thing too
[01:41] <toM|vendettA> Hi, I am running Ubuntu Edgy Eft, and I am trying to get a certain effect from a How-To on ubuntuforums.org, but the instructions are so vague. Can anyone help me out on telling me what to do? The link is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868
[01:41] <ikonia> lets take a look

[01:41] <liam_> what other thing?
[01:41] <milaks> dm_: Ok, thanks for the effor.
[01:41] <elyon> linux_kid:  Sadly, yes.
[01:42] <ikonia> kalyugi: EOT ?
[01:42] <kalyugi> end of time
[01:42] <kalyugi> ctrl d
[01:42] <jrib> liam_: /etc/apt/sources.list, it's a text file, so you can run 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:42] <Rprp> Hmm, i downloaded and installed a sec ago a new login screen, but still its not in the list, where can i find the new login screen!?!?
[01:42] <dm_> toM|Vendetta i would first go get an easier name to type
[01:42] <linux_kid> elyon: me too, but could you boot windows and checks the fs's, and then do a disc check?
[01:42] <ikonia> kalyugi: can you show me the full command youre using in a pastebin please
[01:42] <tommyv> better dm_ ?
[01:42] <kalyugi> pastebin
[01:42] <kalyugi> ??
[01:42] <ikonia> !pastebin
[01:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:43] <dm_> tommyv thanks, now what were you trying to do with this link?
[01:43] <elyon> linux_kid:  I doubt that's the problem, though.  Because all three devices (digital cam, card reader, and mp3 player) WORKED earlier today... and now all three are down at the same time?
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> Rprp: system > prefs > login or whatever that path is
[01:43] <gop> !irc
[01:43] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[01:43] <gop> !guidelines
[01:43] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:43] <Rprp> I know
[01:44] <Rprp> tonyyarusso: but its not in the list
[01:44] <Rprp> ;)
[01:44] <Rprp> :<
[01:44] <liam_> http://wwww.pastebin.com/85144
[01:44] <linux_kid> elyon: ok, were they plugged in at any time when you started gparted or had gparted running?
[01:44] <tommyv> dm_: I am trying to install the mac-menu bar but the instructions are so vague and I am a relative newbie
[01:44] <squeaks> n't seem to find any information on how to compile (?) these into a .deb or something, i guessed dpkg-source -x and it built a directory of the source, is this right?
[01:44] <kalyugi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/505/
[01:44] <squeaks> woops sorry guys
[01:44] <elyon> linux_kid:  Just the card reader... the others were not.
[01:44] <dm_> tommyv let me take a min to look at them,
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> Rprp: That's what the ADD button is for
[01:44] <kalyugi> the at command simply exits out without displaying anything
[01:45] <linux_kid> elyon: do you have a usb flashdrive?
[01:45] <dm_> tommyv are you running windows or KDE
[01:45] <ikonia> kalyugi: you can't do that
[01:45] <Rprp> tonyyarusso: i did add it ...
[01:45] <dm_> tommyv err GNOME or KDE
[01:45] <kalyugi> what ??
[01:45] <tommyv> dm_: gnome
[01:45] <elyon> linux_kid:  No.
[01:45] <CyberSlug> Is it possible to set a proxy in linux/ubuntu that will dynamically allocate bandwidths, so that if one member downloads on network, the internet will remain useful for everyone else?
[01:45] <linux_kid> ikonia: are you good with usb storage devices?
[01:45] <ikonia> I can try
[01:45] <liam_> jrib ... http://wwww.pastebin.com/85144
[01:45] <tommyv> dm_: i understand that the feature I am trying to get is available natively on KDE, but I prefer gnome.
[01:46] <dm_> tommyv ewwwwww this is a messy hack, you have to patch the kernel, which is well beyond what you should be doing right now, and i cant suggest how, because i myself dont knowhow to do it
[01:46] <ikonia> kalyugi: you can't type "crtl + d"
[01:46] <kalyugi> sorry ikonia..what cant i do??
[01:46] <dm_> tommyv what feature?
[01:46] <ikonia> and puting the output like that isn't great
[01:46] <jrib> liam_: apt-cache policy sox
[01:46] <kalyugi> ctrl+d is EOT for the at command
[01:46] <Peebo> OLS - Date format change: Edit /etc/environment LANG="en_GB.UTF-8" is DDMMYYYY LANG="en_US.UTF-8" is MMDDYYYY LANG="en_DK.UTF-8" YYYYMMDD
[01:46] <Peebo> OLS = One Line Solution
[01:46] <ikonia> ahh so you're pressing crtl +d I thought you where scripting it
[01:46] <ikonia> my mistake
[01:46] <tommyv> dm_: to make menu bars like on mac os x, where File Edit View and stuff like that is at the top menu bar
[01:46] <[Ithaycu1> Hello
[01:46] <kalyugi> otherwise the at command wont execute
[01:47] <kalyugi> yep
[01:47] <[Ithaycu1> Am I the only one getting 404 errors from the repo's?
[01:47] <kalyugi> im pressing ctrl d
[01:47] <linux_kid> elyon: would you die if you reinstall ubuntu (im not saying to do that yet)
[01:47] <Music_Shuffle> Yes. I would die if he reinstalled it.
[01:47] <dm_> tommyv whisper ... Gnome is better, but dont let the KDE guys know :P
[01:47] <kalyugi> thers something basic im missing, interms of how the at command exits
[01:48] <elyon> linux_kid:  Die?  Me?  No.  But it has taken me almost 2 weeks go get it setup so that everything is working well.  And my family uses this too...
[01:48] <joshual> anyone install e17 via cvs recently? i'm going through hell trying to... is there a really good step by step for ubuntu users?
[01:48] <liam_> http://pastebin.com/851448
[01:48] <kitche> kalyugi: why not just use a cronjob?
[01:48] <dm_> tommyv hmm well to me it looks like those are only graphical and menu bar hacks, not a mac guy. but meh.
[01:48] <ikonia> kalyugi: just tired your command - worked fine for me
[01:48] <kalyugi> tried that as well
[01:48] <ikonia> whats the proble you're seeing
[01:48] <kalyugi> the basic disadvantage being this is a one off job
[01:49] <linux_kid> elyon: im gonna play around with solutions for a little, ill be back in five
[01:49] <kalyugi> so you can see the btdownload screen
[01:49] <ikonia> problem you're seeing
[01:49] <tommyv> dm_: It is a really cool feature, one of mac os x's best, and I really want to find a way to get this hack working :-P
[01:49] <kalyugi> with progress stats
[01:49] <ikonia> kalyugi: no - as you didn't give it an argument
[01:49] <dm_> tommyv what i got from it, is google gtk2 source( should be a download) , cd to the file, do patch ( he has the code to do it there ) and i dont know how to update the kernal and compile, : /
[01:49] <aleka> Where would Kxdocker be in the Apps menu if I installed it using apt-get??
[01:49] <jrib> liam_: you're missing dapper main from your sources
[01:49] <kalyugi> no i did ..oops i dint put in there
[01:49] <ikonia> linux_kid: did you ask a question I didn't see it
[01:49] <kalyugi> the arg i gave is --responsefile ./<foor>.torrent
[01:50] <tommyv> dm_: i can download the source, and cd to the file, but i didnt know how to do the patch
[01:50] <freshburn> ok its finally installed thanks all for you help and putting up with me
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> Rprp: was it a valid file?
[01:50] <Rprp> uuh,, yes
[01:50] <dm_> tommyv patch -p0 < path/to/file
[01:50] <Rprp> its tar.gx
[01:50] <Rprp> .gz
[01:50] <Rprp> *
[01:50] <freshburn> so now i have daper drake, what are the reasons to upgrade to edgy? is there a comparison site?
[01:50] <Gun_Smoke> Can someone see if they can reproduce this problem I seem to be having.. Open OpenOffice Writer.. Then File>Wizards>Letter   Will it open for you?
[01:50] <linux_kid> ikonia: if your not busy, do you know how to set it so usb devices mount?\
[01:50] <heapme> is it safe to take the ubuntu livecd out of the drive while it's running X. will it still run?
[01:50] <tommyv> okay, thanks dm_, i will give it a shot.
[01:50] <Rprp> Anyway... it was a theme,, thats correct, right
[01:50] <liam_> how do i get dapper main then
[01:50] <jrib> !repos > liam_
[01:50] <ikonia> linux_kid: 1 second
[01:50] <Faust-C> heapme: no
[01:50] <Music_Shuffle> heapme, uhh....why would you do that?
[01:50] <freshburn> heapme: it locks the drive so it wont eject
[01:50] <kitche> heapme: it locks the drive I believe so you can't unless you load everything into ram
[01:51] <dm_> tommyv but its asking you to recomplie the kernel which is not a novice thing to do.
[01:51] <Music_Shuffle> Lol
[01:51] <heapme> Music_Shuffle:  because i need to burn a dvd with it
[01:51] <ikonia> the at job worked for me
[01:51] <dm_> tommyv like i said i dont know how to do it.
[01:51] <Music_Shuffle> THen get another drive. >_<
[01:51] <ikonia> when I used a test torrent
[01:51] <liam_> ?
[01:51] <freshburn> music: ive also wanted to do this to watch a dvd with the drive
[01:51] <jrib> liam_: easiest would be to just make a new one
[01:51] <heapme> i had to use the livecd to recover my files, by mountin gmy ext3 partition
[01:51] <patbam> hi, i have twice run into an insanely annoying bug where i somehow lose keyboard control; clicking on the mouse button turns the cursor into a plus and then dragging will move whatever window is under the mouse around. i say it's insanely annoying because i have no idea how to get out of the situation, i had to power down my laptop O.o
[01:51] <tommyv> dm_: where does it say to recompile the kernel o.O
[01:51] <liam_> ok
[01:51] <jrib> !easysource | liam_
[01:51] <ubotu> liam_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:51] <Music_Shuffle> Heh
[01:51] <ikonia> linux_kid:  - lets go for it
[01:51] <ikonia> give me a quick run down
[01:51] <ceacro> hello world
[01:51] <Faust-C> whoo ok i feel better
[01:51] <ceacro> I have a questions
[01:51] <Faust-C> laters
[01:51] <tonyyarusso> Rprp: was it for the login manager you're using?
[01:51] <dm_> tommyv hmm musta read that wrong , nm, just a .compile make and install, for the hack
[01:51] <ceacro> it's for gurus
[01:51] <linux_kid> im not the one with the problem, its elyon
[01:52] <ikonia> elyon: can you give me a quick summary
[01:52] <Rprp> tonyyarusso: err.... dunno.... :p
[01:52] <freshburn> patbam: sounds like your alt key is stuck
[01:52] <ceacro> I have a problem with UBUNTU 64
[01:52] <ceacro> 64 bits
[01:52] <freshburn> so now i have daper drake, what are the reasons to upgrade to edgy? is there a comparison site?
[01:52] <ikonia> ceacro: whats the problem
[01:52] <ikonia> freshburn: the reasons are personal to you
[01:52] <kitche> freshburn: updated programs pretty much
[01:52] <ikonia> whats good for me maybe poor for you
[01:52] <patbam> freshburn: hmm
[01:52] <ceacro> I am working well
[01:52] <liam_> now ive made a new one
[01:52] <liam_> how do i put it in
[01:52] <ikonia> ceacro: ask the question
[01:52] <elyon> ikonia:  Certainly.  Earlier today I was able to use my card reader, mp3 player, and digital camera in Linux without a problem.  Now, however, although these devices show up in /media/, they can not be mounted or accessed.
[01:52] <ceacro> but suddently the windows goes blank
[01:52] <kalyugi> ikonia....thankx for yer time mate...
[01:53] <ceacro> or white
[01:53] <kalyugi> doesnt work for me tho
[01:53] <freshburn> are all the devices supported equally with both?
[01:53] <ceacro> and it does not work anything at all
[01:53] <elyon> ikonia:  The only thing I can think of that has changed today that could affect this, is that I had some difficulty getting gparted installed and working (which it still isn't)
[01:53] <jrib> liam_: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    then delete everything you see and replace it with the new one
[01:53] <BlenderKitty> hey
[01:53] <ikonia> kalyugi: sorry dude, works like a charm, must be something your doing
[01:53] <kalyugi> even with this
[01:53] <ceacro> the system is well installed
[01:53] <BlenderKitty> can anyone see this message?
[01:53] <kalyugi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/506/
[01:53] <ikonia> elyon: are you sure they are mounted ?
[01:53] <ceacro> ubuntu 64 bits
[01:53] <kitche> freshburn: well edgy has more support probably just a few things but dapper is good to stick with for now
[01:54] <jrib> BlenderKitty: yes
[01:54] <ceacro> I have a ATHLON 64 3000
[01:54] <freshburn> ty
[01:54] <elyon> ikonia:  They aren't.  That's the problem.  They're listed, but when I use file browser to open them, I'm given an error saying that pmount could not be launched on them.
[01:54] <ikonia> kalyugi: just a quick note - you don't have to redirect to /dev/pts/1 - it will go to your controlling console
[01:54] <ceacro> I have proved with suse 10.2
[01:54] <ammiel> how do i install local deb packages?
[01:54] <ceacro> both 32 and 64 bits
[01:54] <bimberi> freshburn: for me yes, for you, highly likely
[01:54] <ceacro> the same thing happes
[01:55] <ikonia> ceacro: sounds like a hardware error
[01:55] <Gun_Smoke> Does OpenOffice have it's own channel?
[01:55] <bimberi> ammiel: double-click on it
[01:55] <kitche> Gun_Smoke: yes on another irc server
[01:55] <freshburn> ok i prefer kde/kubuntu, but my wife loves the games included in ubuntu, so if i apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will it preserve/still run her games? tetravex and orbs
[01:55] <ceacro> but I also have windows xp
[01:55] <liam_> anything else i need to do now jrib?
[01:55] <ceacro> and it works well
[01:55] <ikonia> elyon: take out your devices, put 1 in and tail /var/log/messages and see if someething is said
[01:55] <Gun_Smoke> kitche:  Which>
[01:55] <liam_> it still says the same error
[01:55] <ceacro> as well as MEPIS linuix
[01:55] <jrib> liam_: sudo apt-get update
[01:55] <Gray_Auk> Howdy
[01:55] <liam_> ok
[01:55] <sleepy007> i have a pppoe conf , every time i start the computer i have to do pon dsl-provider , how to fix this ?
[01:55] <kitche> Gun_Smoke: try this one #user.openoffice.org
[01:55] <elyon> ikonia:  Tell me how to tail the message, please?
[01:56] <ammiel> bimberi, can i do it from console? in KDE it opens in archive manager
[01:56] <ikonia> tail -f /var/log/messages
[01:56] <bimberi> sleepy007: add that to /etc/rc.local
[01:56] <dm_> freshburn yes, you are just installing another  desktop environment, you can still run the commands, or create a custom command in your menu to run those games.
[01:56] <bimberi> ammiel: sure: 'sudo dpkg -i file.deb'
[01:56] <sleepy007> sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces  tried this
[01:56] <liam_> thanks man
[01:56] <freshburn> swett ty
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> !openoffice | Gun_Smoke
[01:56] <ubotu> Gun_Smoke: a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[01:56] <freshburn> er sweet
[01:56] <ammiel> thanks bimberi
[01:56] <liam_> i was messing about earlier think i must have fucked it u
[01:56] <bimberi> ammiel: np :)
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | liam_
[01:56] <ubotu> liam_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:56] <ceacro> the question is:
[01:56] <freshburn> exit
[01:56] <liam_> sorry
[01:56] <jrib> kalyugi: works for me if I redirect everything (not just standard out)
[01:56] <ceacro> I was thinking it was hardware problems
[01:56] <Red-Sox> !sourc
[01:56] <Red-Sox> !source
[01:56] <ceacro> but I discard it
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <gop> !Ident
[01:56] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Ident - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <sleepy007> bimberi, the network takes 5 seconds to start
[01:57] <Red-Sox> How do I compile software from source?
[01:57] <ceacro> since I am working pretty well with windows XP
[01:57] <elyon> ikonia:  Okay, all the messages looked fine.  It recognized what device it was and reported no errors
[01:57] <gop> any her eknow about Ident
[01:57] <jrib> !compile | Red-Sox
[01:57] <ubotu> Red-Sox: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:57] <ikonia> can you show me the line
[01:57] <Red-Sox> I've already run ./configure
[01:57] <ceacro> and MEPIS 32 BITS
[01:57] <kalyugi> ikonia can you give me the exact lines you typed
[01:57] <Red-Sox> danke jrib
[01:57] <ammiel> bimberi could you tell me how to convince it to install an i386 package on my 64 bit?
[01:57] <ceacro> but with other operating systems
[01:57] <gop> what the easyiest way to get Ident to work in linux ubuntu
[01:57] <kalyugi> and the per you have on the executing directory
[01:57] <ceacro> have problems
[01:57] <sleepy007> bimberi, i now that
[01:57] <bimberi> sleepy007: probably about right for a pppoe connection
[01:57] <sleepy007> i have a pppoe conf , every time i start the computer i have to do pon dsl-provider , how to fix this ?
[01:57] <elyon> ikonia:  What line?  There were many lines.
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> gop: specifically?
[01:57] <ceacro> hello gurus
[01:57] <Topslack> Uhm, I have enabled all of the extra sources in my sources.list but I'm unable to install or even search for mythtv. What am I missing? apt-cache search myth shows no mythtv packages at all
[01:58] <ikonia> /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses  --responsefile /home/mattd/test1.torrent
[01:58] <kitche> !oidentd|gop
[01:58] <gop> efnet requires me to use Ident
[01:58] <ubotu> oidentd: replacement ident daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.8-1 (edgy), package size 50 kB, installed size 204 kB
[01:58] <Gun_Smoke> tonyyarusso: Thank you.
[01:58] <FLiPeR> Hi......a hand with a networkmessup here?....i tryied to bridge 2 cards...it didnt work....a restarted my pc and since then i have internet byt the networkmanager says no network and i cant access my pc from outside...(such as my site on apache...)all incoming conections time out...........
[01:58] <gop> and I can't enter some channels if thier no Ident
[01:58] <ikonia> elyon: the one in messages showing it recognising it
[01:58] <jc> hello all!
[01:58] <ceacro> what seems to be the problem then???????
[01:58] <kalyugi> thanks again ikonia
[01:58] <elyon> ikonia:  Jan  4 19:56:33 elyon-desktop kernel: [17182346.800000]    Vendor: SanDisk   Model: Sansa e260        Rev:
[01:58] <sleepy007> bimberi, i have to do first sudo poff -a , then pon dsl-provider
[01:58] <somerville32> apt-get update
[01:58] <gop> !oidentd | gop
[01:58] <ubotu> oidentd: replacement ident daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.8-1 (edgy), package size 50 kB, installed size 204 kB
[01:58] <Topslack> I did an apt-get update, nadda
[01:58] <ceacro> I am working well when suddently the windows goes white and it is blocked to workl
[01:58] <linux_kid> sleepy007: whats your problem
[01:58] <bimberi> ammiel: not sure, there may be a --force-something option.  Check 'man dpkg' but take care, it's not really the done thing
[01:59] <ikonia> elyon: can you stick say  3 lines before it, and 3 lines after it in a pastebin please
[01:59] <elyon> ikonia:  Yep... one sec
[01:59] <Atomix> I'm having problems with installing things that i have downloaded
[01:59] <sleepy007>  i have to do first sudo poff -a , then pon dsl-provider , on every start up
[01:59] <Skrot-> Hi. Can anyone tell me which version of the binary nvidia drivers and the intel ipw3945-driver ubuntu edgy has?
[01:59] <bimberi> sleepy007: see if this wikipage helps...
[01:59] <bimberi> !pppoe | sleepy007
[01:59] <ubotu> sleepy007: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[01:59] <ceacro> Would the problem be ATI driver
[01:59] <jrib> Atomix: example?
[01:59] <ceacro> ???
[01:59] <elyon> ikonia:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/508/
[01:59] <ikonia> Skrot-: look in the repo
[02:00] <linux_kid> sleepy007: well, if its a ppoe connection, i dont think that there is an easy way around
[02:00] <elyon> ikonia:  I just posted all of it.
[02:00] <Atomix> like um, i got azureus from the add/remove programs list
[02:00] <ikonia> got it
[02:00] <Atomix> and downloaded a game with it
[02:00] <Atomix> but i cannot install the game
[02:00] <ikonia> elyon: for a test please do
[02:00] <sleepy007> linux_kid, reading the wiki , the forum is full of this
[02:00] <ikonia> mount /dev/sdc1 /tmp
[02:00] <Atomix> and now whenever i go into azureus, it shuts within like 3 seconds of opening it
[02:01] <ikonia> sorry sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /tmp
[02:01] <elyon> ikonia:  mount: special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist
[02:01] <linux_kid> sleepy007: do you have webmin?
[02:01] <Atomix> also, i cannot install things from discs
[02:01] <ikonia> fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[02:01] <sleepy007> linux_kid, ?
[02:01] <sleepy007> !webmin
[02:01] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[02:02] <elyon> ikonia:  Isn't it sdb?
[02:02] <maddash> are there restricted modules for debian etch?
[02:02] <sleepy007> linux_kid, <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[02:02] <linux_kid> sleepy007: dont listen to that
[02:02] <maddash> ie, in Ubuntu, there was linux-restricted-modules-******
[02:02] <ikonia> elyon: it looks like your bus is hung and it keeps increamenting it
[02:02] <FLiPeR> a hand with me???network messup
[02:02] <sleepy007> whats that
[02:02] <ceacro> who has MEPIS installed ?????
[02:02] <ikonia> ttached scsi removable disk sdb
[02:02] <ikonia> ttached scsi removable disk sdc
[02:02] <maddash> hey it's ikonia
[02:02] <ceacro> Who has SIMPLY MEPIS installed ?????
[02:02] <elyon> ikonia:  ah
[02:02] <ikonia> ceacro: no-one - its ubutntu support
[02:02] <linux_kid> sleepy007 its an all over system manager
[02:02] <ikonia> maddash: hello
[02:02] <maddash> omg I'm in #ubuntu
[02:03] <maddash> oops
[02:03] <Atomix> so um
[02:03] <maddash>     /part #ubuntu
[02:03] <Slart> any good alternatives to webmin?
[02:03] <Atomix> did anyone get my problem?
[02:03] <tommyv> !kubuntu | tommyv
[02:03] <ubotu> tommyv: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[02:03] <tommyv> !kde
[02:03] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[02:03] <ceacro> mepis is based on ubuntu and debian
[02:03] <sleepy007> linux_kid, someting like yast in suse ?
[02:03] <linux_kid> sleepy007: go to http://www.webmin.com/ and get the .deb pckage
[02:03] <ceacro> the person who has mepis has ubuntu
[02:03] <tommyv> will I be able to use gaim on KDE?
[02:03] <gop> oidentd what is the manual for it
[02:03] <ikonia> but its "not
[02:04] <gop> how does one install it
[02:04] <gop> oidentd
[02:04] <ikonia> not ubuntu
[02:04] <linux_kid> sleepy007: im not into suse, no clu
[02:04] <gop> !suse
[02:04] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[02:04] <ceacro> since all the modules and software are 100% compatible
[02:04] <ikonia> I don't think they are
[02:04] <jrib> tommyv: yes
[02:04] <ceacro> very good
[02:04] <elyon> sleepy007:  The Ubuntu equivalent to Yast in SuSe is "Synaptic"
[02:04] <Atomix> need i repeat my problem?
[02:04] <kitche> sleepy007: webmin is aweful actually and can leave your system pretty open actually
[02:04] <Red-Sox> what is the extension for a makefile?
[02:05] <ceacro> who has MEPIS????
[02:05] <kitche> Red-Sox: umm there isn't an extension to a makefile
[02:05] <ceacro> just me????
[02:05] <gop> is thier a reason why I don't get sound from flash video
[02:05] <kaoz> does anyone know why when a game is run with wine the text seems to flake out peridoicaly?
[02:05] <ikonia> ceacro: /join #mephis
[02:05] <SleepySocks> elyon, yes thats the gui package manager
[02:05] <jrib> Red-Sox: it's usually just called Makefile
[02:05] <linux_kid> kitche: i manage my server with webmin
[02:05] <elyon> ceacro:  No one here will have it!
[02:05] <ikonia> this is#ubuntu support
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> ceacro: Wouldn't that be a question for the mepis channel?
[02:05] <Red-Sox> Hrm there aren't any
[02:05] <ceacro> where is it???
[02:05] <ikonia> #mepis ?
[02:05] <gop> !flash | gop
[02:05] <ubotu> gop: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:05] <SleepySocks> you can also use apt-get from the command line or aptitude
[02:05] <linux_kid> gop: google it
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> ceacro: what ikonia said most likely
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> or look it up if not
[02:05] <Red-Sox> after ./conigure it says "To build HandBrake, run 'jam'."
[02:05] <Slart> kaoz: why not ask the wine-people.. in #wine-hq
[02:05] <Red-Sox> but jam does nothing
[02:06] <Red-Sox> and make jam doesn't either
[02:06] <sleepy007> rebooting
[02:06] <elyon> ikonia:  Given up on my problem, huh? ;)
[02:06] <ceacro> I cannot find a server called MEPIS
[02:06] <ikonia> elyon: sorry, I missed your response
[02:06] <ikonia> ceacro: its a channel, not a server
[02:06] <jrib> Red-Sox: no output at all?
[02:06] <linux_kid> sleepy007: did u get webmin?
[02:06] <ikonia> like #ubuntu is a channel on freenode
[02:06] <ceacro> where is that channel?
[02:06] <ikonia> on freenode probably
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> ceacro: it's a channel, not a server.  #mepis, on freenode.
[02:06] <ceacro> How can I get there?
[02:06] <elyon> ikonia:  I don't think I responded... the last you said was about my bus being hung.
[02:06] <devkinetic> hello, where can i find out on how to install kde on ubuntu?
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> I just joined it, so I know it exists.
[02:06] <Atomix> I will repeat myself
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> ceacro: /join
[02:06] <Gray_Auk> am trying to set up a printer server between two ubuntu boxes.  but when I try http://localhost:901/  it says  Not Authorized ... any ideas?
[02:06] <jrib> ceacro: /join #mepis
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> same as you got here
[02:07] <Atomix> How do i install anything on ubuntu
[02:07] <ikonia> elyon: yeah, so try fdisk -l on both /dev/hdb and hdc - see if there are any partitions
[02:07] <Red-Sox> jrib: Bash command not found or whatever
[02:07] <ceacro> thanks
[02:07] <jrib> Red-Sox: install jam then
[02:07] <NexusL> ok ubuntu hates me, all ways around
[02:07] <Slart> Atomix: use apt-get or synaptic (in system, administration)
[02:07] <Atomix> i have been to synaptics but i am confused
[02:07] <kitche> Atomix: apt-get is a command line package manager
[02:07] <Slart> Atomix: anything special you're looking to install?
[02:07] <devkinetic> whats the atp-get for kde?
[02:08] <Slart> devkinetic: apt-get? it's not gnome specific
[02:08] <Atomix> like drivers from disks
[02:08] <NexusL> devkinetic: apt-get
[02:08] <jrib> !kde | devkinetic
[02:08] <ubotu> devkinetic: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[02:08] <Atomix> and stuff
[02:08] <qos> hey guys ...
[02:08] <NexusL> devkinetic: Apt-Get is just a package manager not isolated to a windows manager or GUI
[02:08] <devkinetic> thx jrib
[02:08] <bimberi> devkinetic: apt-get is in kde, the synaptic equivalent is adept
[02:08] <kitche> devkinetic: kpackage probably
[02:08] <Red-Sox> jrib: Nope
[02:08] <Red-Sox> install: missing destination file operand after `jam'
[02:08] <Red-Sox> Try `install --help' for more information.
[02:09] <elyon> ikonia:  Okay, doing that on hdb and hdc did nothing.  Ran it on sdb and got a few partitions
[02:09] <kitche> Red-Sox: jame is a program
[02:09] <jrib> Red-Sox: sudo apt-get install jam,  and use pastebin please
[02:09] <kitche> jame/jam
[02:09] <ikonia> elyon: try mounting one
[02:09] <Atomix> Slart
[02:09] <Red-Sox> jrib: pastebin for those *two* lines?
[02:09] <Red-Sox> jrib: Okay sorry
[02:09] <Slart> Atomix: run synaptic, on the left side are the categories... if you're looking for an email program.. look in the email category, multiverse and universe are just different kinds of applications
[02:09] <sleepy007> !pppoe
[02:09] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[02:10] <somerville32> jrib: You don't need pastebin for just two lines - not worth the effort ;]
[02:10] <Slart> Atomix: drivers from (for?) disks... I'm not even sure what that is..
[02:10] <Zyphrexi> hello
[02:10] <svish> !hdparm
[02:10] <ubotu> hdparm: tune hard disk parameters for high performance. In component main, is standard. Version 6.6-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 57 kB, installed size 228 kB
[02:10] <sleepy007> the wiki helped me , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE  , fixed the PPPOE start
[02:10] <elyon> ikonia:  Okay, sdb1 is mounted, sdb2 returned that it needed a filesystem arguement
[02:10] <jrib> Red-Sox, somerville32: true I just glanced and counted 3 lines without noticing the first one wasn't part of the paste
[02:10] <ikonia> cd into where ou mountee sdb1
[02:10] <devkinetic> !Xfce
[02:10] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[02:10] <Atomix> drivers like for my monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakersz
[02:11] <svish> is hdparm a good program to use? seeing in Boot-Up Manager (bum) that it isnt activated.. should it be?
[02:11] <Zyphrexi> i've been looking for information on dynamic color scheming in gnome
[02:11] <devkinetic> !nvidia tnt
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia tnt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <Slart> Atomix: monitor.. no need for drivers, keyboard and mouse should work without them. speakers dont need them.. the only thing I've installed drivers for is the graphics card
[02:11] <devkinetic> !nvidia
[02:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:11] <Red-Sox> jrib: no matter, and thanks I think it's working
[02:11] <elyon> ikonia:  I don't know where I mounted it
[02:11] <Zyphrexi> !color schemes
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about color schemes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <ikonia> what command did you use
[02:11] <Zyphrexi> bah
[02:11] <Atomix> can u open a 1 on 1 chat to help me so its less confuzing
[02:12] <Atomix> i just need help
[02:12] <gizmo_the_great1> Recently my Ubuntu set-up has started to get a little flaky (had to hard reset the computer a few times due to freezing - even Ctlr Alt F1 did not work once or twice). What I want to know is, is there a way to identify 'the state' of your Ubuntu setup and whether anything can be reconfigured etc?
[02:12] <Zyphrexi> hey what's the irc channel for gnome?
[02:12] <Red-Sox> Atomix: Sorry what's the problem?
[02:12] <Zyphrexi> i know it's like #gnome or something, but not sure about the server name
[02:12] <kitche> gizmo_the_great1: look at /var/logs and see if any errors are in there
[02:12] <kitche> Zyphrexi: irc.gnome.org
[02:12] <GuerrillaWon> hmm what's the proper command line to mount /dev/hda?
[02:12] <Atomix> im unregestered
[02:12] <Atomix> so it wont work
[02:12] <Ray-Newbie> Hello...  I'm new to Ubuntu, trying to install for the first time.  I have video card problem - can someone help me?
[02:12] <kitche> Zyphrexi: :)
[02:12] <Atomix> pm's wont work
[02:12] <GuerrillaWon> mount /dev/hda /mnt/hda?
[02:12] <Zyphrexi> kitche: w00t thanks
[02:13] <Red-Sox> Atomix: Then reg...
[02:13] <Slart> hmm... what is the command to be available for private chat??
[02:13] <elyon> ikonia:  Oh, I found it in /tmp/ and it lists the contents of my mp3 player
[02:13] <Atomix> how
[02:13] <Red-Sox> Atomix: /ns register (pword)
[02:13] <gizmo_the_great1> GuerrillaWon:  mount -t filesystem /dev/hda
[02:13] <linux_kid> Ray-Newbie: intel or nvidia & ati
[02:13] <GuerrillaWon> ahh ok
[02:13] <ikonia> elyon: ok - so the problem is that when you removed them it still things its mounted - it must hve not mounted clean
[02:13] <Red-Sox> 0.0
[02:13] <kitsuneofdoom> I want to install Ubuntu on an LVM partition. Earlier I was told I could do this from a regular Ubuntu install disk. However, I can't see how to.
[02:13] <ikonia> so when you put it back in dbus thinks its the old device, but the actual device file name has changed
[02:13] <genben> does anyone have a recommendation for customising an ubuntu cd, a particular method or 3rd party package?
[02:13] <Ray-Newbie> ati
[02:14] <elyon> ikonia:  I never unmounted it myself, though.  I've even rebooted thinking that would reset it all, but it didn't.
[02:14] <gizmo_the_great1> GuerrillaWon: sorry - it's actually mount -t filesystem /dev/hda somewhere
[02:14] <pagefault> should be renamed to amd :P
[02:14] <linux_kid> !ati | Ray-Newbie
[02:14] <ubotu> Ray-Newbie: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:14] <kitche> genben: think there is a howto on the wiki on how to do that
[02:14] <ikonia> elyon: remove the usb devices and reboot
[02:14] <PirateHead> Anybody know of a program that allows you to print to PDF?
[02:14] <NexusL> ! inspiron 6500
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inspiron 6500 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <NexusL> blasted
[02:14] <cafuego_> kitsuneofdoom: There partitionor gives you 3 options. Normal, LVM or Manual.
[02:14] <PirateHead> All I can find on google are proprietary programs - does open source have a good PDF printer?
[02:14] <genben> kitche: thanks, you are a fount of wisdom 8-)
[02:14] <elyon> ikonia:  That should work then? Or is there more after that?
[02:14] <kitsuneofdoom> cafuego_: WHICH partitioner
[02:14] <genben> kitche: got the usb thing sorted btw
[02:15] <ikonia> elyon: that should be it
[02:15] <linux_kid> PirateHead: openoffice can save in pdf
[02:15] <ikonia> shutdown for a a minute
[02:15] <elyon> ikonia:  Is that something I should always do anyway?  Remove the devices before rebooting?
[02:15] <kitche> genben: at least when I was doing some searching when I was looking for dfs I came across it on the wiki for ubuntu
[02:15] <cafuego_> kitsuneofdoom: The one in the installer (note, the 'alternate' install CD)
[02:15] <PirateHead> linux_kid, I want to print to PDF from another program
[02:15] <bimberi> !uck | genben
[02:15] <ubotu> genben: UCK is a tool that helps you customizing official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[02:15] <sleepy007> xchat opens URLs with epyphany , how to make it to open with firefox ?
[02:16] <kitsuneofdoom> cafuego_: 'alternate' install CD?
[02:16] <bimberi> hm, bringing out that factoid doesn look too great ;)
[02:16] <cafuego_> kitsuneofdoom: alternate install cd. ie: the one that boots text mode, not live.
[02:16] <genben> bimberi: ta, just found that
[02:16] <cafuego_> kitsuneofdoom: if you want to do it vioa the live cd, you need to manually partitino and set up LVM groups and volumes.
[02:17] <Ray-Newbie> thanks, this will help but i need help to get to this point - how do I get to a command prompt where I can put the drivers in?
[02:17] <kitsuneofdoom> cafuego_: well, I have the live CD, and I have a large free space partitioned off
[02:17] <GuerrillaWon> gizmo any particular foilder I should mount an hd in?
[02:17] <GuerrillaWon> poilder/polder
[02:17] <GuerrillaWon> *folder