[00:33] <kelvinliu> wallyworld: got this pr for the oci image fetching thing, could u take a look? thanks https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11662
[00:34] <wallyworld> yup, looking
[00:35] <wallyworld> kelvinliu: can we log a message saying that microk8s was not ready if we reach the timeout?
[00:36] <wallyworld> also, can we call a micrk8s command to see if the microk8s snap is still coming up so we can maybe know to wait a little longer
[00:36] <kelvinliu> wallyworld: it's because microk8s needs root to run
[00:37] <kelvinliu> no point to wait in this case
[00:37] <wallyworld> kelvinliu: are you saying that micrk8s k8s would have been broken even if juju were not there
[00:38] <kelvinliu> https://github.com/ubuntu/microk8s/blob/master/microk8s-resources/actions/common/utils.sh#L7 $USER wasnot there was the error
[00:40] <wallyworld> ok. as an optimisation later, would be good for juju snap hook to check if user is in microk8s group at least so we avoid waiting for 30 unnecessarily
[00:40] <kelvinliu> microk8s wasnot broken, it's just it's not accessible for non root user at that time
[00:40] <wallyworld> gotcha
[00:40] <kelvinliu> we are not waiting for 30s
[00:40] <wallyworld> ah right it exits immediately
[00:40] <kelvinliu> we  exit 0 immediately if we got any errors
[00:41] <kelvinliu> yeah
[00:41] <kelvinliu> we just exit immediately if we got any errors
[00:41] <kelvinliu> not only permission error
[00:42] <wallyworld> lgtm, with a suggestion for a message
[00:42] <kelvinliu> ty
[03:00] <stub> Is it a bug or by design that I can't deploy a charm with no hooks/*, just a dispatch script in $CHARM_DIR ?
[03:01] <stub> Or am I misinterpreting how dispatch works in 2.8 ?
[03:14] <thumper> stub: it is a bug
[03:14] <thumper> a bug that I thought we had caught already
[03:15] <stub> Think it was rc3
[03:15] <stub> I can reproduce if you want
[03:19] <thumper> stub: if it is in rc3, it is in .0
[03:23] <stub> thumper: reproduced with rc3
[03:24] <stub> want a bug?
[03:25] <thumper> stub: please
[03:28] <stub> https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1881839
[03:28] <mup> Bug #1881839: dispatch-only charms cannot be deployed, hooks/ directory required <juju:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1881839>
[03:28] <thumper> ta
[03:37] <thumper> hpidcock: if you get a moment, I'd like your thoughts on https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11660
[03:40] <hpidcock> thumper: I'm not sure what tests were failing
[03:40] <hpidcock> we really need to move to ecdsa
[03:41] <hpidcock> key generation is fast enough + very secure
[03:41] <hpidcock> but that is really only possible in 2.8 with tlm's changes to pki
[03:44] <thumper> hmm
[04:25] <thumper> a very simple bug fix https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11665 for a race test failure
[09:40] <stickupkid> manadart, you around?
[09:41] <manadart> Yeah, but I need 20 mins or so before I can do a HO.
[09:42] <stickupkid> manadart, I need to nip out anyway for an early lunch, but the reason we don't land in the correct space with --bind is because we pick the wrong AZ
[09:43] <stickupkid> manadart, in the StartInstanceParams AvailabilityZone the selection is wrong, just wanted to pick your brains about potentials of why
[09:43] <stickupkid> manadart, the code doesn't look like it's changed from what I can see, so obviously missing something
[09:44] <manadart> stickupkid: But using constraints works. Mechanism for using bind should be the same. Anyway, I'll look and we can chat in a bit.
[09:45] <stickupkid> manadart, that's what I would have thought, but clearly not
[11:18] <stickupkid> manadart, ping
[11:18] <manadart> stickupkid: Pong.
[11:19] <stickupkid> daily mc daily
[11:28] <stickupkid> https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/juju-qa-jenkins/pull/456
[12:03] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey guys
[12:04] <Eryn_1983_FL> how would i figure out why a node failed commission
[12:04] <Eryn_1983_FL> what/where are the logs
[12:07] <stickupkid> juju status <- will tell you the over all issue
[12:07] <stickupkid> juju debug-log --replay --no-tail <- will give you the logs for the model
[12:07] <stickupkid> juju debug-log --replay --no-tail -m controller <- will give the logs for the controller
[12:07] <stickupkid> Eryn_1983_FL, ^
[12:13] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok
[12:16] <Eryn_1983_FL> well i think its cert issues and ovn issues,
[12:16] <Eryn_1983_FL> fun times..
[12:28] <Eryn_1983_FL> is Ubuntu 20.04 LTS good for openstack
[15:16] <stickupkid> manadart, https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11667
[15:16] <stickupkid> that cleans up the INFAN networking


[02:15] <dersteer> question.  I would like to change the size of the dock.  The more icons I add the smaller they get. How do I modify it?
[14:55] <keyborad_apeman> hello all, trying to install fresh gnome ubuntu on lenovo T510 (was running TLS 12.04 before) but for some reason getting kernel panic - not syncing : No init found... Any ideas ? Thanks
[14:56] <keyborad_apeman> fstab is good, disk has been repartitioned in every way to remedy this but same error comes up
[14:57] <mgedmin> is this when you're booting the livecd?
[15:01] <keyborad_apeman> mgedmin: no, live is working fine, its after the installation that kernel panic is kicking inn
[15:02] <mgedmin> interesting!
[15:02] <keyborad_apeman> mgedmin: also checked as I said fstab and all partitions with uid's are correct
[15:03] <keyborad_apeman> tried with and with out third party drivers
[15:03] <mgedmin> that error usually means your initramfs didn't load the drivers for your hard disk or filesystem
[15:03] <mgedmin> (or raid)
[15:03] <keyborad_apeman> standard disk SAT-a, and ext4 default files system
[15:03] <mgedmin> 32-bit or 64-bit os?
[15:03] <keyborad_apeman> 64 bit
[15:03] <mgedmin> grub or uefi?
[15:04] <keyborad_apeman> thats what I am wondering my self
[15:04] <mgedmin> heh, probably grub
[15:04] <keyborad_apeman> I didnt see any option to choose
[15:04] <keyborad_apeman> yes probably
[15:04] <keyborad_apeman> whats even more strange is default ubuntu with unity installs with out issues
[15:05]  * mgedmin scratches head
[15:05] <keyborad_apeman> I prefer gnome hence downloading this version
[15:05] <keyborad_apeman> mgedmin: you and me brother ...you and me
[15:05] <mgedmin> well, it's certainly possible to install ubuntu + unity, then apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop ubuntu-gnome-default-settings
[15:05] <mgedmin> (which is what I did, a few releases ago, and then just kept upgrading in place)
[15:06] <keyborad_apeman> true, didnt try that
[15:06] <mgedmin> if the ubuntu gnome installer is broken, you should probably report a bug
[15:06] <mgedmin> but that's above my pay grade
[15:06] <keyborad_apeman> not sure if its hardware related
[15:06] <keyborad_apeman> maybe my lenovo T510 is just difficult
[15:07] <mgedmin> if stock ubuntu can be installed, there's no reason ubuntu-gnome should have problems
[15:07] <mgedmin> the difference is in the set of installed packages, basically
[15:07] <mgedmin> drivers etc are all the same
[15:07] <keyborad_apeman> mgedmin: yup, my conclusion is the same
[15:08] <keyborad_apeman> will try to download iso again and make usb from scratch
[15:08] <keyborad_apeman> mgedmin: thanks for input man
[15:09] <mgedmin> or boot into the menu and check for errors?
[15:10] <keyborad_apeman> rescue ?
[15:10] <keyborad_apeman> kernel panic on that as well
[15:11] <mgedmin> no, the livecd boot menu has an option to check itself
[15:11] <mgedmin> iirc
[15:11] <keyborad_apeman> cant see that anywhere
[15:12] <keyborad_apeman> you mean md5sum
[15:13] <mgedmin> probably
[15:17] <keyborad_apeman> mgedmin: sum is the same..very odd
[15:17] <mgedmin> could be a bug
[15:18] <keyborad_apeman> might be, where can I check/report it ?
[23:30] <c_smith> looks like the patch that was put in for Empathy to get Facebook working again was backported.
[23:30] <c_smith> probably old news, though