[00:01] <jmichaelx> i have the tsak manager set to use only one row. there are enough open windows on this desktop that it has created two rows, though true to the settings, it is only using one of them,,, lol
[00:03] <nate__> I am curious about developing my own distro.
[00:03] <jmichaelx> task manager in 4.7.x is so messed up
[00:04] <well_laid_lawn> put some windows on another desktop
[00:04] <jmichaelx> nate__: i would love to see a Qt-based distro that was much lighter than KDE, and had no intentions of EVER, EVER, EVER creating crap like akonadi/nepomuk/etc etc etc
[00:05] <nate__> my question is do most linux distros just modify / configure different packages or do all the people that develop these distros have their own kernels
[00:05] <well_laid_lawn> some distros apply kernel patches
[00:06] <well_laid_lawn> if your going that far into it have a look at linux from scratch
[00:07] <nate__> For example taking archlinux distro I can apt-get gnome packages / then configure the wallpaper and other packages to make it look and act just like ubuntu.
[00:07] <well_laid_lawn> arch doesn't use apt
[00:07] <nate__> pacman
[00:07] <nate__> sorry
[00:07] <well_laid_lawn> yep
[00:08] <fontis> is it possible to install the jupiter battery thingy on kubuntu?
[00:08] <well_laid_lawn> it's all the same gnu/linux nate__
[00:08] <fontis> and btw whats up with the synaptic touchpad being so hypersensitive to touch
[00:08] <fontis> i wish i could "disable" it... hate HP laptops
[00:09] <hanasaki> in the system setting theme manager I choose get new and it redirects to open a web browser.  download the zip... but how do you install from a zip?
[00:09] <hanasaki> also, how do I change the default system font in kde?
[00:09] <fontis> in system settings
[00:10] <nate__> so are you saying that all the x86 distro's use the same linux kernel 2.6 or 3.0 ,...etc and just change the userland programs and configurations. For the most part.
[00:10] <fontis> hanasaki: the install tutorial is usually on the same site as where you downloaded the pack
[00:10] <fontis> otherwise it's generally just a matter of placing the extracted folder in .kde4/share/apps/desktoptheme/
[00:11] <fontis> and it will popup in your theme selection
[00:11] <well_laid_lawn> different distros use different kernels and init scripts and package managers but the same apps
[00:11] <well_laid_lawn> more or less
[00:11] <jmichaelx> hod i hate kde4.7 so far
[00:11] <jmichaelx> god*
[00:11] <nate__> i.e just use startkde instead of startx (gnome) or blackbox ,....etc etc (different windows / desktop sessions to make a new os and download different packages
[00:12] <hanasaki> fontis:  I have looked.
[00:12] <well_laid_lawn> nate__: you'll need a different repository
[00:12] <well_laid_lawn> for packages
[00:13] <fontis> hanasaki: did you do the other bit I said?
[00:13] <nate__> different repository ?
[00:13] <well_laid_lawn> where you install applications from in your new distro
[00:15] <hanasaki> not yet fontis /  I would like a more automated way than manually unziping
[00:15] <jmichaelx> lol, i just got the task manager to start using 1 row by setting it to use 2... if i set it to 2, it uses 1
[00:15] <fontis> hanasaki: then dont download that theme then.. there are plenty of themes available via the install option which dont require u visiting html sites to download zip files mate
[00:21] <nate_> other the linux patches to a kernel is it what I have said about modifying desktop-sessions , downloading/configuring different packages
[00:21] <nate_> other the --> other then
[00:31] <fontis_> lol
[00:38] <fontis> hmm
[00:38] <fontis> my choqok is broken
[00:38] <fontis> cant add twitter accounts to it
[01:06] <lazyg33k> hello everyone
[01:06] <lazyg33k> can someone tell me what is the difrence between kubuntu 10.10 and 11.10 ^
[01:32] <xieyi> Does the kubuntu build of libav support video4linux2 device? I am using ubuntu 11.10 for ffmpeg program development. I find that av_find_input_format("video4linux2") returns NULL.
[01:33] <AndroidLoverInSF> i noticed that in ubuntu11.10, even though i use kde, sometimes i see a window with the stupid disappearing scrollbars. anyway to fix that?
[01:41] <jmichaelx> is anyone else unable to use gparted in kubuntu right now?
[01:43] <Snowhog> jmichaelx: Explain please?
[01:44] <jmichaelx> Snowhog:  i just tried to fire gparted up two times in a row, and each time it crashed before the gui appeared
[01:45] <jmichaelx> (no gui appeared)
[01:47] <jmichaelx> also, unmounting external drives does not seem to be working
[01:47]  * jmichaelx has frequently had issues with kubuntu being unable to unmount external drives
[01:47] <Snowhog> jmichaelx: Try launching it from a console - will give you more feedback. kdesudo /usr/bin/kcmshell4 kcm_partitionmanager
[01:48] <jmichaelx> Snowhog: partitionmanager will start. it is gparted that will not start
[01:51] <Snowhog> jmichaelx: Checking.
[01:51] <jmichaelx> lol somehow firing up partitionmanager also triggered a few phonon warnings about audio devices.... my confidence is KDE grows smaller by the day
[01:52] <jmichaelx> and on the audio front, i am having an issue on this machine (at work) that i am also seeing on machines at home. i boot one time, and the only device listed in phonon is 'pulseaudio server'. the next time, it lists the specific devices
[01:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> jmichaelx:  gparted loads in KDE on 11.04.  I just tested.
[01:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> at least when you have the GNOME dependencies installed
[01:53] <jmichaelx> TheEvilPhoenix: yea, i had no issue with it in 11.04. i guess i should have specified that this is 11.10
[01:54] <Snowhog> TheEvilPhoenix: It doesn't load here on my 11.10.
[01:55] <jmichaelx> there is some weirdness in using a number of GTK apps in kubuntu 11.10, i am noticing
[01:55] <jmichaelx> well, in 11.10 there is weirdness everywhere
[01:55] <TheEvilPhoenix> might be a bug... (this is why I don't upgrade to the most recent release immediately ;P)
[01:55] <jmichaelx> TheEvilPhoenix: you are a smart man
[01:56] <TheEvilPhoenix> did they make GNOME3 the gnome standard in 11.10 for the GNOME builds?
[01:56] <jmichaelx> TheEvilPhoenix: i believe they did
[01:56] <TheEvilPhoenix> (looks back on sentence) wow, how many times can you use the word "gnome" in a sentence, huh?  :P
[01:56] <jmichaelx> i would guess that is related
[01:56] <TheEvilPhoenix> jmichaelx:  yeah... G3 is a bit.. um... screwy might be the  word
[01:56] <OerHeks> started kdesudo gparted from terminal, just fine
[01:57] <jmichaelx> TheEvilPhoenix: i don't doubt that a bit. gnome and kde are both perpetually screwy these days
[01:57] <jmichaelx> OerHeks: from the CLI, it is working here, too
[01:57]  * TheEvilPhoenix disagrees ;P
[01:58] <OerHeks> i noticed only your installation is so bad, i read you bugs many times ..
[01:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> oh he has tons of bugs?
[01:58]  * TheEvilPhoenix wonders...
[01:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[01:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> jmichaelx:  clean install, or upgraded install?
[01:58]  * TheEvilPhoenix has to ask
[01:58] <FloodBotK1> TheEvilPhoenix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:58] <FloodBotK2> TheEvilPhoenix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:59] <OerHeks> i guess he never did a reinstall to reproduce the errors.
[01:59] <jmichaelx> OerHeks: you must not hand around in here very much, because many of the issues i have had are echoed by many others
[01:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> okay, this is why i hate the floodbots... >.>
[01:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> jmichaelx:  you didnt answer my question.
[01:59] <jmichaelx> OerHeks: no, i have kubuntu installed on 5 different machines... at home and at work
[01:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> jmichaelx:  are they all clean installs of 11.10?
[01:59] <jmichaelx> (am currently at work)
[02:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> jmichaelx:  or are they all upgraded from 11.04 -> 11.10?
[02:00] <jmichaelx> TheEvilPhoenix: none of them are clean installs...
[02:00] <jmichaelx> all upgraded, though folks in here have been complaining about the same issues, both with upgrades and fresh installations
[02:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> jmichaelx:  then that seems to be your issue - did you actually test with a clean install?
[02:01] <jmichaelx> one of the bugs i hate the most has now made it into the KDE most-hated-bugs top 10 list
[02:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> *yourself*
[02:02] <jmichaelx> TheEvilPhoenix: no, nor am i going to. the issues are affecting people who did fresh installations as well
[02:03] <OerHeks> as you wont do a fresh install, you wil never now, do you ?
[02:04] <jmichaelx> OerHeks: like i said, i already know that there are people with these issues who did fresh installs... so why would i do a fresh installation, in the hopes that it will fix, for example, the audio issues?
[02:04] <jmichaelx> this room has had many people seeking help for audio issues since release... more than i have seen in several years
[02:05] <OerHeks> after upgrade, all i had to do was removing ~/.pulse and sound was back.
[02:05] <jmichaelx> good for you
[02:06] <jmichaelx> as always, this has to do with the hardware being used
[02:06] <jmichaelx> much more than it has to do with whether or not one has a fresh installation
[02:07] <jmichaelx> OerHeks: i have three kubuntu machines that seem to have no audio issues. i have two that do.
[02:08] <OerHeks> i feel like the guy with too smooth hardware, never run in unsolvable issues
[02:09] <jmichaelx> that might even be the case, but if it is, it is only luck
[02:09] <jmichaelx> OerHeks: i have sometimes been able to feel that way, too... every for a few years at a time
[02:09] <jmichaelx> you may yet get your turn
[02:10] <jmichaelx> s/every/sometimes/
[02:12] <jmichaelx> one should not automatically suggest that folks do freah installations, unless one has a good idea that doing so would solve something. i've seen that done a lot, and it often just wastes people's time
[02:18] <bruceTypeServe> How do I connect to a server with kubuntu?  Is there a native program?
[02:18] <jmichaelx> bruceTypeServe: how are you wanting to connect? with ssh?
[02:19] <bruceTypeServe> either to SMB, AFP... a fileserver
[02:19] <jmichaelx> ahh
[02:20] <jmichaelx> there are GUI apps that can be used with SMB. i don't know about AFP
[02:20] <bruceTypeServe> like with mac you can just use Finder --- Go -- Connect to server... anything like that with kubuntu?
[02:20] <jmichaelx> bruceTypeServe: are you wanting to connect to a windows server?
[02:21] <jmichaelx> bruceTypeServe: in dolphin (kde's native file manager), you should find a 'network' tab
[02:21] <bruceTypeServe> it is actually a linux server that has Samba shares...  it uses webmin.  Any thoughts on a good fileserver or just stick with samba?
[02:21] <well_laid_lawn> I like nfs
[02:22] <well_laid_lawn> !nfs
[02:22] <jmichaelx> i would probably not be the best one to ask. i do not use SMB much, i use NFS
[02:22] <jmichaelx> yea, what well_laid_lawnis saying
[02:22] <bruceTypeServe> are there NFS modules for webmin?
[02:23] <jmichaelx> bruceTypeServe: i would imagine, as NFS is native to linux
[02:23] <jmichaelx> i think NFS would be the best choice if you have a linux file server, serving exclusively to linux machines
[02:24] <jmichaelx> sshfs is great for mounting remote directories on the fly
[02:24] <bruceTypeServe> NFS can be seen by mac and windows machines, yes?
[02:25] <jmichaelx> bruceTypeServe: i am not sure about that. i think that often when you are dealing with a mix of windows and linux, SMB might be the better choice
[02:25] <jmichaelx> (i am guessing mac's can do NFS, but am not sure)
[02:30] <OerHeks> yes, mac does.  open Disk Utility from /Applications/Utilities. Then, click on the File menu and select NFS Mounts… to bring up the NFS Mounts screen.
[02:30] <jmichaelx> ok, good... i thought as much, but know very little about mac's
[02:44] <RickKnight> Quake2 won't run after upgrade to Kubuntu 11.10. Other OpenGL games like Unreal still work.
[03:10] <hanasaki> how do you make the mouse move from one virt screen to the next when it hits the edge?
[03:21] <avihay> hanasaki: system settings->workspace behaviour->screen edges play around with the settings there, I think. there's another place for switching desktops while draging, I think
[03:22] <phunyguy_> I have a question about samba shares.  I was using Ubuntu with the Unity interface, and mounting shares with nautilus (fuse/gvfs).  Is there something similar with Kubuntu that allows me to make shares visible to non-network share aware apps?
[03:22] <phunyguy_> (besides using straight cmd line samba)
[03:24] <hanasaki> avihay:  thanks... that did it..  but 1. the screen edge actions do not seem to work and 2. when I drag a window toward an edge, the 3d box starts to rotate very soon.  when the window is still far from th edge... is there a tolerance that can be adjusted?
[03:27] <avihay> mmm, I don't really know, I don't use virtual desktops. maybe you can change it in settings->desktop effects, something in the individual settings, or the global animation speed settings, or wait for someone who knows
[03:32] <hanasaki> ok thank you
[03:38] <phunyguy_> sorry folks
[03:39] <phunyguy_> Quassel decided to barf.
[03:45] <phunyguy_> not sure if anyone answered me the first time, but basically I need to make mounted shares (gvfs/fuse style) visible to non-aware apps, so that they may be able to load content from SMB shares.
[03:45] <phunyguy_> ...transparently.  in Ubuntu, Nautilus did this seamlessly, but I don't see that same option in Kubuntu
[03:55] <petete> there is kiofuse
[03:55] <petete> but i don't think it's automatic
[03:56] <TheEvilPhoenix> does Dolphin allow for mounting sftp as directories, like Nautilus (GNOME) does?
[03:56]  * TheEvilPhoenix has no backlogs, so if it was asked before, I didnt see this.
[03:56] <phunyguy_> TheEvilPhoenix: that is my same question!
[03:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> what a coincidence
[03:57]  * TheEvilPhoenix slaps irssi for erasing his logs
[03:57] <phunyguy_> :)
[03:57] <phunyguy_> yeah, I loved the fuse stuff in gnome, but can't seem to find that function in KDE
[03:58] <phunyguy_> i can browse smb://server/share in dolphin, and in nautilus, it would make a link to it in ~/.gvfs.      Trying a gnome->KDE switch for the umpteenth time
[03:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> lol
[03:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> phunyguy_:  tbph i could just SSh into the server, but i'm lazy ;P
[04:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> editing large files with nano is not fun :/
[04:00] <phunyguy_> I want Amarok to see my music  :)
[04:00] <petete> if its a kde app you dont need to mount anything
[04:00] <phunyguy_> petete, I want to make that share contain the "collection" in amarok.
[04:01] <phunyguy_> it only has a drilldown list in that section
[04:01] <phunyguy_> and I wont just be using kde apps
[04:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> petete:  so is there an easy way to open sftp/ssh folders/connections from Dolphin like Nautilus has?
[04:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> or no?
[04:02] <phunyguy_> i saw smb4k, but cant get that to work
[04:02] <phunyguy_> not sure what I am doing wrong there.
[04:02] <petete> did you try fish://whatever.com/ ?
[04:02] <phunyguy_> fish:// ?
[04:02] <petete> its for ssh
[04:02] <phunyguy_> aahhh, thats him
[04:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> ohey that worked :P
[04:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> actually typing in sftp:// worked :/
[04:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[04:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> i'll try fish:// next
[04:03] <phunyguy_> ok my turn!
[04:03] <phunyguy_> :D
[04:03] <petete> i dont know about amarok, but you can browse samba shares in dolphin
[04:04] <TheEvilPhoenix> yup that worked :P
[04:04] <TheEvilPhoenix> thanks much
[04:04] <phunyguy_> yes petete, that is my question.  I canbrowse just fine
[04:04] <TheEvilPhoenix> petete:  what about standard FTP?  just ftp://blah.com/ ?
[04:04] <phunyguy_> but Nautilus made a nice handy shortcut to that share in ~/.gvfs
[04:04] <petete> TheEvilPhoenix: yes
[04:04] <TheEvilPhoenix> (and if nonstandard ports... ftp://blah.com:port/
[04:04] <TheEvilPhoenix> )
[04:04] <TheEvilPhoenix> ok thanks
[04:04] <phunyguy_> making it transparent to the app that doesnt speak KDE
[04:04] <phunyguy_> err doesnt speak GVFS
[04:05] <petete> there is a kiofuse thing
[04:05] <phunyguy_> so my question is whether or not something like that exists in KDE
[04:05] <petete> but it looks like you have to manually mount it
[04:05] <petete> no, i thik there isn't something like that
[04:06] <phunyguy_> that sucks.
[04:06] <phunyguy_> because if I use command line shares in /etc/fstab, they dont get unmounted before network goes bye bye
[04:07] <phunyguy_> so on a restart it hangs for about 5 minutes waiting to time out
[04:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> petete:  can KDE applications access the sftp locations?  for example, if I am in dolphin, and do sftp://webadmin@blah.com:12345/var/www/site1/, can I edit index.html in that folder using, say, kwrite or kate?
[04:07] <phunyguy_> TheEvilPhoenix: try it out, lol
[04:07] <petete> TheEvilPhoenix: yes, all kde apps can do it
[04:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> phunyguy_:  i'm  lazy ;P
[04:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> petete:  thanks
[04:07] <phunyguy_> thats apparent ;)
[04:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> phunyguy_:  its a side effect of it being 12:08 AM :P
[04:08] <phunyguy_> yeah i hear ya
[04:08] <phunyguy_> good thing its friday
[04:08] <phunyguy_> i gotta leave for work in 7 hours
[04:09] <phunyguy_> ok that is flippin fantastic, i unplug the netbook, and it goes to standby instantly
[04:09] <phunyguy_> also the screen doesnt lock
[04:10] <phunyguy_> it doesnt even lock with the little lock button up top
[04:10] <phunyguy_> says its locking, but never does
[04:16] <Rectec> Quick question - do I need MySQL if I don't run a server?
[04:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> Rectec:  you don't need mysql-server
[04:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> but just having mysql or the client software for mysql wont hurt
[04:17] <Rectec> TheEvilPhoenix: Do I need things such as mysql-common for certain websites?
[04:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> for a full answer: no you dont.  But other applications *might* depend on the client version of mysql being installed, so you might run into removal issues
[04:18] <Rectec> TheEvilPhoenix: it's just that it's taking over 20MB of RAM and I'm not even using it.
[04:18] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[04:19] <kamilnadeem> I have a prob in Kubuntu 11.10, Every time I start my system , the Volume is set to mute?
[04:19] <kamilnadeem> That means after every boot I have to uncheck mute from the mixer
[04:20] <Rectec> TheEvilPhoenix: Could I prevent mysqld from starting on bootup and have it start on-demand maybe?
[04:20] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys, how do I configure KNotify to alert me if Num Lock, Caps Lock, etc are on.?
[04:21] <TheEvilPhoenix> Rectec:  you have mysqld installed?
[04:21] <TheEvilPhoenix> Rectec:  you won't need mysqld
[04:21] <TheEvilPhoenix> wahts the package that provides that...
[04:22] <Rectec> TheEvilPhoenix: mysql-common?
[04:22] <TheEvilPhoenix> mysql-server-5.1 in 11.04 is the one that provides the server binaries
[04:22] <TheEvilPhoenix> Rectec:  that'd remove all mysqls :p
[04:22] <TheEvilPhoenix> but you can do that
[04:22] <Rectec> TheEvilPhoenix: I'll see how it goes
[04:22] <Rectec> Thanks
[04:22] <TheEvilPhoenix> actually
[04:22] <TheEvilPhoenix> dont do that
[04:22] <TheEvilPhoenix> it'll explode KDE
[04:22] <Rectec> Exciting
[04:23] <TheEvilPhoenix> Rectec:  just uninstall mysql-server-5.1 or w/e mysql-server-* file you have
[04:23] <TheEvilPhoenix> that *should* get rid of the mysqld
[04:23] <Rectec> k
[04:24] <LINKSWORD2> I'm not trying to sound rude, but I asked a question and nobody has even responded...
[04:25] <Rectec> Don't use Akonadi (at least that's what it wants me to think), would it be safe to remove its mysql backends?
[04:25] <Rectec> LINKSWORD2: yeah sorry, I have no idea
[04:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> LINKSWORD2:  could just mean we didnt see it, or we dont know
[04:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> LINKSWORD2:  actually i dont know if you can - it would probably need some kind of event handler written into the driver or some other thing
[04:26] <LINKSWORD2> TheEvilPhoenix: Any idea how to do that, if I do need it?
[04:26] <TheEvilPhoenix> LINKSWORD2:  nfc
[04:26] <TheEvilPhoenix> tbpfh
[04:26] <TheEvilPhoenix> i wouldnt even attempt it
[04:26] <Rectec> LINKSWORD2: only thing I can find like that is a gnome2 applet :(
[04:26] <Rectec> ok that's a little to sad looking
[04:27] <Rectec> :[space](
[04:27] <LINKSWORD2> I'm running Kubuntu 10.04, and I've done this before, but it's been a while.
[04:27] <LINKSWORD2> I've had some issues with newer Kubuntu versions, so I had to backup my harddrive and move back to version 10.04.
[04:30] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm... I've found the needed settings in the System Settings and Notifications panel... But it is not displaying any message when I press Caps Lock.
[04:33] <kamilnadeem> I have a prob in Kubuntu 11.10, Every time I start my system , the Volume gets set to mute?
[04:33] <kamilnadeem> That means after every boot I have to uncheck mute from the mixer ? Any FIX?
[04:34] <LINKSWORD2> kamilnadeem: I've also seen that problem, along with issues displaying the top window-bar... No fix that I know of.
[04:34] <kamilnadeem> :(
[04:34] <phunyguy_> ok so its a samba issue.  If I add the samba share to /etc/fstab, I have the option of allowing users to mount and umount.  Is it possible to unmount filesystems FIRST on a reboot while networks are still up via network-manager?
[04:35] <kamilnadeem> how to get the preview of Video files in Dolphin?
[04:36] <kamilnadeem> I have delected preview in dolphin for all folders but I don't get it on video files?
[04:36] <kamilnadeem> selected*
[04:36] <kamilnadeem> I have a prob in Kubuntu 11.10, Every time I start my system , the Volume is set to mute?
[04:37] <LINKSWORD2> kamilnadeem: Please don't spam the same problem over and over again. I've answered that it's a problem that has been around, and that there is no yet-known fix.
[04:37] <LINKSWORD2> Or let me put it this way. None that I've found.
[04:38] <kamilnadeem> sorry I was posting it on another IRC
[04:38] <LINKSWORD2> Aha. Mis-keyed.
[04:38] <kamilnadeem> yes
[04:38] <kamilnadeem> aby help for getting prview of video files?
[04:39] <LINKSWORD2> Sorry, I've never tried to preview video files in 11.10.
[04:39] <kamilnadeem> ok
[04:39] <LINKSWORD2> I've actually had to run a regression back to 10.04 because I really foobed my harddrive.
[04:39]  * LINKSWORD2 slaps self.*
[04:40] <phunyguy_> goodnight
[04:40] <kamilnadeem> Someone suggested this "delete your pulse audio configuration and reboot"
[04:40] <LINKSWORD2> kamilnadeem: May I talk to you one-on-one for a moment?
[04:40] <kamilnadeem> yes
[04:43] <noaXess> moring
[04:43] <noaXess> there is a command to see what typ of notbook i have.. i think :) any know that command?
[04:45] <LINKSWORD2> noaXess: Please explain more?
[04:46] <noaXess> hehe.. :).. i mean the brand of eg. mainboard and s on... i try with lshw now
[04:46] <noaXess> jep with sudo lshw.. i get: product: N71Vn
[04:47] <noaXess> wow :) and serial ;)
[04:48] <LINKSWORD2> noaXess: I used to know what to look for, but I'm not finding it right now.
[04:48] <noaXess> LINKSWORD2: it is lshw..
[04:49]  * LINKSWORD2 Facepalm.*
[05:12] <xdunlapx> hello
[05:13] <kamilnadeem> ?\o
[05:14] <xdunlapx> hi
[06:17] <phoenix_firebrd> My system crashes when i use my bluetooth after sometime. The keyboard lights blink when the system  crash.
[06:45] <DigiGram_> Hi. Anybody here having trouble with ncpfs on 10.04 or 10.10?
[06:45] <DigiGram_> or even 11.04?
[07:05] <e8hffff> Request, can some print their Oneric version of /etc/apt/source.list
[07:07] <e8hffff> I've got a problem with 'deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric main' not working. I think this maybe beta link, not release.
[07:08] <e8hffff> Canonicla really needs a install image so people can compare.
[07:09] <e8hffff> anyone? .... sleepy heads?
[07:12] <kartick> how can i install comix in kubuntu?
[07:12] <yofel> e8hffff: that line is correct, what's the problem?
[07:13] <yofel> kartick: search for comix in the muon package manager if the SC doesn't show it. It's there
[07:13] <e8hffff> yofel: ok thanks.  It's jsut been failing when I do a update and I was concerned it was beta string
[07:18] <e8hffff> cheerio
[07:55] <eagles0513875> hey guys I'm noticing a severe slow down in dns resolution on my netbook running 11.10 has anyone else noticed that? i have an iMac on the same network using same dns ips with no slow down what so ever
[07:59] <kartick> how can i convert jpeg to png image?
[07:59] <eagles0513875> !gimp | kartick
[08:00] <eagles0513875> kartick: thats what you want it allows you to export in different formats png included
[08:01] <kartick> but i want to do through right click and "action" option what i saw in opensuse
[08:01] <eagles0513875> kartick: dunno what your referring to as i haven't used opens use before
[08:01] <eagles0513875> sry kartick  :(
[08:20] <khear> hi, after disabling nepomuk, i keep getting notifications that it's disabled. is there a way to disable these notifications?
[08:21] <him> hello buddy
[08:22] <him> can any one tell me how to convert jpg to png image?
[08:23] <khear> him: gimp or krita maybe? or imagemagick if you want to do it from the command line
[08:24] <khear> him: actually, gwenview can do that too, so you don't have to install anything extra
[08:26] <him> khear: but how to do so?
[08:27] <him> khear: how to do so with gwenviewer?
[08:28] <khear> him: open the image in gwenview, and choose File -> Save As.. -> Filter: PNG Image, and save it somewhere
[08:29] <him> Khear: thanks buddy i have done...!!!
[08:29] <khear> great :)
[08:33] <eagles0513875> khear: there is also gimp to do the same thing
[08:33] <eagles0513875> if your going to do file save as
[08:52] <wfu4422> i need help with MGA drivers and a matrox g450 quad card on 11.04
[08:58] <Jikan> Hi!
[08:58] <Jikan> Does Dolphin support scripts, like Nautilus?
[08:59] <Jikan> And, I'm migrating from Gnome to KDE, and FileZilla is now (within KDE) unable to connect through sFTP because it doesn't find my keys, so, where should I put my keys in order to have FileZilla seeing them ?
[09:01] <thecaptain2000> hi, how do I stop the message to upgrade to 11.10 popping up every 5 minutes?
[09:10] <AlexDevilLXWindo> Guys i need help
[09:10] <AlexDevilLXWindo> Yestaerday i updated my system
[09:10] <AlexDevilLXWindo> shutdown
[09:11] <AlexDevilLXWindo> and i cant get grub now
[09:11] <AlexDevilLXWindo> How to recover grub?
[09:11] <ottovonbasmarck> i belive there's a way to fix it by using a live cd
[09:12] <ottovonbasmarck> and chosing a repair menu or such
[09:16] <AlexDevilLXWindo> Nope
[09:16] <thecaptain2000> hi, how do I stop the message to upgrade to 11.10 popping up every 5 minutes?
[09:16] <AlexDevilLXWindo> i'm on live cd
[09:22] <ottovonbasmarck> AlexDevilLX: http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/432/how-to-repair-grub-in-ubuntu-10-10
[09:22] <ottovonbasmarck> one assumes that it works a year later
[09:23] <AlexDevilLX> Hate WINDOWS
[09:25] <blummm> hi, i have installed kubuntu 11.10 but in system settings i don't find for example "add or remove software"
[09:25] <blummm> the installation was successfully
[09:25] <blummm> anyone help me?
[09:26] <susundberg> huh -- maybe its called something else? Or do you mean that the whole system settings is empty?
[09:28] <ottovonbasmarck> blummm: look for muon in your menu search
[09:28] <ADLXHateWINDOWS> Ok, how to restore GRUB?
[09:29] <ottovonbasmarck> AlexDevilLX: http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/432/how-to-repair-grub-in-ubuntu-10-10
[09:29] <Jikan> blummm: there's no "Add or remove software" menu, but the Ubuntu Software Center or Muon Packages Manager
[09:30] <ADLXHateWINDOWS> thx
[09:30] <ADLXHateWINDOWS> hey
[09:30] <ADLXHateWINDOWS> Can anyone answer me?
[09:30] <ottovonbasmarck> i did
[09:30] <eagles0513875> hey ikonia fyi the grub2 issue i mentioned yesterday i have my had disk set to boot first on my netbook yet grub still doesn't install correctly to the MBR of the netbook hard disk
[09:30] <Jikan> ADLXHateWINDOWS [11:29:16] <ottovonbasmarck> lexDevilLX: http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/432/how-to-repair-grub-in-ubuntu-10-10
[09:31] <ADLXHateWINDOWS> ok
[09:31] <eagles0513875> ADLXHateWINDOWS: what is your issue I'm wondering if i might have the same as u
[09:31] <ADLXHateWINDOWS> Updated kubuntu  11.10 yestarday shuted down and cant see grub today
[09:32] <eagles0513875> ahh different issue then mine
[09:35] <wfu4422> i need help with MGA drivers and a matrox g450 quad card on 11.04
[09:38] <AlexDevilLX> I have Windows on sda1, kubuntu on sda2
[09:39] <AlexDevilLX> how to recover grub?
[09:39] <eagles0513875> never had to I'm dealing with a single installation on a netbook
[09:40] <AlexDevilLX> recover mode?
[09:41] <AlexDevilLX> can i recover grub in recovery mode on DVD?"
[09:43] <kevin_> i have gnu character map installed. And it is not displaying many charcters how to install those fonts?
[09:47] <blummm> Jikan ubuntu software center?
[09:55] <blummm> not exist add or remove software in kubuntu 11.10?
[09:55] <blummm> from system settings
[10:02] <naftilos76> Hi, i get a dependency problem when trying to install Aries 3D CAD. It says that it needs openGL lib libglu1-mesa (>= 7.6.0-1). I checked with dpkg and it seems that i have 7.11-0ubuntu3. Isn't that newer than what is asked?
[10:03] <Inadaptado> That may be exactly the problem
[10:03] <naftilos76> meaning?
[10:03] <naftilos76> The installed lib is newer than the one necessary! Why is there a dependency problem?
[10:04] <Inadaptado> I don't remember which, but once I had a program that asked me for a lower version of the driver I had
[10:04] <Inadaptado> Sorry, lib, not driver
[10:05] <Inadaptado> It seems the program had not been updated and conflicted with the newer libs. Go figure. I couldn't use it.
[10:15] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys, I'm trying to install the new Firefox 7, but it downloads as a tar.bz file, and when I try to open it, it pops up in Ark and extracts to become a whole bunch of folders.
[10:16] <Inadaptado> That's the usual way. But it's available in the repositories, you don't need to download the file
[10:16] <LINKSWORD2> Then I need to figure out how to get it.
[10:17] <Inadaptado> What was your distro version?
[10:17] <LINKSWORD2> I'm running 11.04.
[10:17] <LINKSWORD2> I can't upgrade to 11.10 because of a glitch with my model of computer when it has 11.10.
[10:18] <Inadaptado> Yeah, I think I remember. Mmm, can you install Muon? It's the best way to control which packages you install
[10:19] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm. Checking.
[10:19] <phoenix_firebrd> My system crashes when i use my bluetooth after sometime. The keyboard lights blink when the system  crash.
[10:19] <LINKSWORD2> Oops. 10.10 right now actually. (Which means I do need to upgrade just a little.)
[10:20] <Inadaptado> Indeed :D
[10:20] <Inadaptado> phoenix_firebrd: integrated bluetooth?
[10:21] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: no
[10:21] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: device name = Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle
[10:21] <LINKSWORD2> Inadaptado: Which firefox version would work with 10.10, if I'm looking for the highest possible?
[10:22]  * LINKSWORD2 facepalm.*
[10:22] <Inadaptado> LINKSWORD2: In theory, any
[10:22] <LINKSWORD2> Odd. 7 won't install.
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> LINKSWORDS2 did that mute prob fixed on your side , I am still facing it?
[10:23] <Inadaptado> phoenix_firebrd: It may be a hardware issue. Blinking sounds like a system error message
[10:23] <blummm> muon software... in 11.10
[10:23] <blummm> not search ?
[10:23] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: it didnt happen in 11.04
[10:23] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: what mute problem?
[10:24] <blummm> i'm using muon software... but when i try to find any package... not found
[10:24] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: i checkes the log, nothing found as far as i know.
[10:24] <LINKSWORD2> Nope. No mute problem.
[10:24] <kamilnadeem> I have a prob in Kubuntu 11.10, Every time I start my system , the Volume is  set to mute?
[10:24] <Inadaptado> Oooh, right, Bluez. I had forgotten. phoenix, some other users have reported big issues with the bluetooth driver in 11.10
[10:24] <blummm> and with apt-cache search yes
[10:24] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: does the keyboard blinking means kernel panic?
[10:24] <kamilnadeem> so your method worked for you?
[10:25] <LINKSWORD2> Yeah, it did.
[10:25] <jemand> Hi all,
[10:25] <jemand> I can't get Kmail2 to run.
[10:25] <jemand> Who has a link for me, that describes the issues and gives solutions for Kmail2?
[10:25] <Inadaptado> Could be, it depends on the configuration of the computer
[10:25] <LINKSWORD2> I'm sorry, I absolutely refuse to upgrade to 11.10 due to several problems it poses.
[10:25] <kamilnadeem> oK , what all was that you deleted
[10:25] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: Are restoring your previous session
[10:26] <phoenix_firebrd> jemand: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OneiricOcelot/Final/Kubuntu/Kmail2
[10:26] <jemand> THX
[10:26] <phoenix_firebrd> jemand: yw
 kamilnadeem: Are restoring your previous session? I don't get you?
[10:27] <kamilnadeem> Evrery time I boot the Volume is muted and I have to open the mixer and unmute it
[10:27] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: can you check something for me
[10:27] <kamilnadeem> yes
[10:27] <LINKSWORD2> Inadaptado: When a Bluetooth item's light blinks, it will be a slow and steady blink to identify that it is communicating.
[10:28] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: goto system settings
[10:28] <kamilnadeem> in there
[10:28] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: then startup and shutdown
[10:28] <kamilnadeem> ok
[10:28] <kamilnadeem> on there
[10:29] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: in session management what is the option selected for on login
[10:29] <kamilnadeem> restore previous session
[10:30] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: can you make it start woth an epty session?
[10:30] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: can you make it start with an epty session?
[10:30] <kamilnadeem> ok done
[10:30] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: whats the option in default leave?
[10:31] <kamilnadeem> end current session
[10:31] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: restart and see if it works
[10:32] <kamilnadeem> ok going to restart
[10:33] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: ok
[10:36] <kamilnadeem> nope did not worked
[10:36] <kamilnadeem> also my kick off is opening on the top side of my screen :(
[10:38] <kamilnadeem> phoenix_firebrd: What next ?
[10:38] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: May be the settings file of pulseaudio or alsa is corrupt
[10:38] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: wait
[10:39] <kamilnadeem> phoenix_firebrd:  so should I undo the changes in starup and shutdown , this kick off dispersion is making me nervous
[10:41] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: what you did is not causing this problem ,but something else. You can undo the changes if you want
[10:41] <kamilnadeem> phoenix_firebrd: thsi http://i.imgur.com/qSC3g.png
[10:41] <kamilnadeem> it was not happening before the changes
[10:42] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: i know that
[10:42] <kamilnadeem> ok
[10:42] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: end the process plasma-desktop and restart it
[10:43] <kamilnadeem> how to restart it
[10:43] <phoenix_firebrd> alt+f2 and type plasma-desktop and then press enter
[10:44] <kamilnadeem> ok
[10:44] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: did you end the process first
[10:44] <aleksei`> hi 2 all
[10:44] <kamilnadeem> yes
[10:44] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: ok
[10:44] <kamilnadeem> it is now in normal position
[10:44] <Inadaptado> aleksei`: hi
[10:45] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: good
[10:46] <kamilnadeem> phoenix_firebrd: so I wait , someone on the Irc previusly sugessted deleting some files , pulseaudio and kmixer config
[10:47] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: did you try it?
[10:47] <kamilnadeem> i delted the kmixer one but it did not helped
[10:47] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: then
[10:48] <kamilnadeem> I dont know what pulseaudio files to delete and where to find it
[10:48] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: can you delete one more thing and try?
[10:49] <kamilnadeem> here <phiscribe> kamilnadeem, was takitn to eagles0513875 , for you maybe delete your pulse audio configuration and reboot
[10:49] <kamilnadeem> which one do you want me to delete
[10:49] <eagles0513875> ?
[10:50] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: Just rename this file /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
[10:50] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: to asound.state.bak
[10:50] <kamilnadeem> ok trying
[10:51] <kamilnadeem> ok done
[10:52] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: so there is no asound.state in that folder right?
[10:52] <kamilnadeem> yes I have renamed it
[10:52] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: good, now restart and see if it works
[10:52] <kamilnadeem> o going to restart
[10:55] <kamilnadeem> phoenix_firebrd it worked
[10:55] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: enjoy
[10:55] <kamilnadeem> one more thing is there a way to get preview of video files in dolphin
[10:55] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: sure
[10:56] <kamilnadeem> how?
[10:56] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: install ffmpegthumbs
[10:56] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: then tell
[10:56] <kamilnadeem> ok muon here I come :)
[10:57] <Inadaptado> Dolphin is the only thing I'm disappointed with in KDE. Pity.
[10:57] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: why?
[10:58] <kamilnadeem> still no preview
[10:58] <kamilnadeem> phoenix_firebrd I have installed it
[10:58] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: wait , you have to configure dolphin
[10:58] <kamilnadeem> Hasty me
[10:58] <kamilnadeem> sorry
[10:58] <Inadaptado> It needs improvement. And it's the piece of software that crashes the most to me
[10:58] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: in dolphin menu, goto configure dolphin
[10:59] <kamilnadeem> in there
[10:59] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: oh
[10:59] <Inadaptado> I'm still sticking to KDE though. I have faith.
[10:59] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: goto general
[10:59] <kamilnadeem> in there
[10:59] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: gnome birds are migrating to kde
[11:00] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: in the preview tab select video files
[11:00] <kamilnadeem> phoenix_firebrd hehe at present KDE has the upper hand
[11:00] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: yep
[11:00] <kamilnadeem> Yo
[11:00] <kamilnadeem> working
[11:00] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: the thumbnail preview?
[11:01] <kamilnadeem> yes
[11:01] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: cool
[11:01] <kamilnadeem> one more thing how to change the shortcut for Krunner
[11:01] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: you are not using any backports right?
[11:02] <Inadaptado> Nope
[11:02] <Inadaptado> I think...
[11:02] <kamilnadeem> I have added PPa of 4.7.2 to my 11.10
[11:03] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: can you confirm it
[11:03] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: goto settings
[11:03] <kamilnadeem> in there
[11:03] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: you mean the run dialog as krunner right?
[11:04] <kamilnadeem> yes the alt+f2 thing
[11:04] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: ok
[11:04] <Inadaptado> No, definitely not. I think I had them on Natty, but I haven't added anything now. Well, except Chromium Daily
[11:04] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: goto shortcuts and gestures
[11:04] <kamilnadeem> in there
[11:04] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: goto global keyboard shortcuts
[11:04] <kamilnadeem> in there
[11:05] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem:  in the kde components drop down select  run command interface
[11:05] <kamilnadeem> ok so I change the alt+f2 to what ver I want
[11:06] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: ya, can you see the option to change?
[11:06] <kamilnadeem> done alt+space :)
[11:06] <kamilnadeem> one more thing
[11:07] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: yes
[11:07] <kamilnadeem> In kmail I am deleting the mails but they actually don't get deleted
[11:07] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: did you read this https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OneiricOcelot/Final/Kubuntu/Kmail2
[11:08] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: when does your dolphin crash
[11:08] <kamilnadeem> thanks phoenix_firebrd you have just made my day
[11:08] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: yw
[11:08] <kamilnadeem> no probs now to ask
[11:09] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: we are here to help :)
[11:09] <Inadaptado> phoenix_firebrd: When I manage large quantities of files. I'm tidying up my missus' collection of MP3. It's a nightmare
[11:09] <kamilnadeem> oh wait please can yo tel me about the akonadi thing
[11:09] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: soon you will join us
[11:09] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: No idea about that
[11:09] <kamilnadeem> yes I already do help people to my level
[11:10] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: i can understand
[11:10] <kamilnadeem> I meant akonadiitray
[11:10] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: how much ram do you have ?
[11:10] <Inadaptado> 4gb
[11:10] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: i faced this problem by self
[11:11] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: have you tried the file manager krusader?
[11:11] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: whats with the akonadi tray?
[11:12] <Inadaptado> Never heard of it. I'll check it, thanks
[11:12] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: when i was sorting 76000 files, it helped me
[11:12] <Inadaptado> :D
[11:12] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: :)
[11:13] <phunyguy__> =P
[11:13] <kamilnadeem> oh I got confused
[11:13] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: what?
[11:13] <kamilnadeem> I thougt it was some software kile deja dup , actually it is for kontact
[11:14] <kamilnadeem> like*
[11:14] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: ya
[11:15] <kamilnadeem>  any blogs realted to KDE and kubuntu  , that you all follow to be up with the game
[11:15] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: do you use bluetooth
[11:15] <kamilnadeem> like OMg!Ubuntu is for the main UBuntu
[11:15] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: ??
[11:15] <Inadaptado> phoenix_firebrd: Nope. I do have it integrated, but I don't have a smartphone or anything that I could use it with
[11:15] <Inadaptado> It's off all the time
[11:16] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: its all because of the bluez
[11:16] <kamilnadeem> phoenix_firebrd to get the latest info on kde/kubuntu and it its softwares
[11:16] <Inadaptado> They screwed it, didn't they? I've only read complains
[11:17] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: planetkde.org, kde commit digest
[11:18] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: many more
[11:18] <kamilnadeem> already have them in the feed
[11:18] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: yep they screwed it
[11:18] <kamilnadeem> also the feed reader for kde is excellent
[11:18] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: ya
[11:19] <Inadaptado> I filed a bug for Muon Software Centre, the main page was full of Bluez new entries
[11:19] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: means?
[11:19] <Inadaptado> Lots of people filing bugs for Bluez
[11:20] <phunyguy_> so how do I get the message indicator to turn green with all new messages, not just queued new IM windows?
[11:20] <phoenix_firebrd> Inadaptado: ya
[11:21] <kamilnadeem> phoenix_firebrd : will be taking your leave now, thanks once again for helping out
[11:21] <kamilnadeem> Peace Be WIth You All
[11:21] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: yw
[11:21] <phunyguy_> wow....
[11:21] <phoenix_firebrd> kamilnadeem: bye
[11:21] <Inadaptado> phunyguy_: System settings > Application and System notifications. Play around.
[11:22] <phunyguy_> Inadaptado: holy customizeable...
[11:23] <phunyguy_> (Gnome convert)
[11:23] <phunyguy_> =D
[11:23] <Inadaptado> It does take time to get used to so many options, I know :D
[11:23] <phunyguy_> i am surprised at how good this runs on my little samsung netbook
[11:23] <phunyguy_> got the cool netbook interface too
[11:24] <phunyguy_> wonder if i can get my desktop to look like this (not exact, but I like the top bar)
[11:24] <george> Hello. How do I fix this error → Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -5 and height 15     ?
[11:24] <phunyguy_> george: helps to know what you were trying to do to get that error
[11:25] <phoenix_firebrd> george: the program crashes?
[11:25] <george> phoenix_firebrd:yes.
[11:25] <Inadaptado> brb
[11:25] <george> phunyguy:trying to run pcsx2
[11:25] <phoenix_firebrd> george: chnage the gtk theme oxyen-gtk to anything else
[11:27] <george> phoenix_firebrd:it crashed too with Raleigh. Same error: Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -5 and height 15    segmentation fault
[11:27] <James147> phoenix_firebrd: its really easy to make the desktop look like the netbook version of kde... (or you can just run plasma-netbook on the desktop)
[11:27] <James147> phunyguy_: ^^ even
[11:28] <phoenix_firebrd> george: does this happen with every gtk app?
[11:28] <phunyguy_> yeah not sure I want the full fledged netbook experience on the desktop, but I like the drop down "open windows" appled.
[11:28] <phunyguy_> applet too
[11:28] <phunyguy_> and search/launch
[11:28] <george> phoenix_firebrd:nope.
[11:28] <phoenix_firebrd> george: what is the application?
[11:28] <James147> phunyguy_: you should be able to use anywidget from the netbook on the desktop,
[11:29] <James147> (and vise versa)
[11:29] <george> phoenix_firebrd:pcsx2
[11:29] <toumbo> Hi people!!!May anyone explain me if thre are any difrences between muon nai ubuntu software center?Thanks in advance!
[11:29] <phunyguy_> thanks James147
[11:29] <phoenix_firebrd> george: wait
[11:29] <phunyguy_> going to work, adios.
[11:30] <phoenix_firebrd> george: did you install from the normal repository ?
[11:30] <Inadaptado> toumbo: Do you mean Kubuntu Software Centre vs Ubuntu Software Centre?
[11:30] <george> it's not on the official repositories, it's a ppa.
[11:30] <toumbo> Exactly
[11:31] <phoenix_firebrd> george: it is there
[11:31] <Inadaptado> toumbo: Not much, to be honest. Kubuntu's is a bit simpler, but all in all they are pretty much the same
[11:32] <toumbo> Because a had an attempt to install vlc but I didn't found it
[11:32] <george> phoenix_firebrd:pcsx it there, but this is pcsx2
[11:32] <phoenix_firebrd> george: ok, can you purge and reinstall and see if it works
[11:32] <Inadaptado> toumbo: Oh, that. Kubuntu's has some issues. If you don't find something, use Muon Package Manager
[11:33] <george> phoenix_firebrd:gonna try it.
[11:33] <phoenix_firebrd> george: ok
[11:35] <toumbo> Inadaptado:Ok thanks for the advice!!!! :D
[11:35] <TheLastProject> Does anybody know which process takes care of the Task Manager? Firefox bugged it out and I don't want to kill my complete session.
[11:36] <phoenix_firebrd> TheLastProject: ksysguard
[11:36] <george> phoenix_firebrd:didn't work.
[11:36] <TheLastProject> Okay, thanks for the tip, but it didn't change anything =/
[11:37] <TheLastProject> Guess I'll have to kill my x session to fix this =/
[11:37] <george> TheLastProject: or via konsole: killall firefox
[11:37] <phoenix_firebrd> george: then , most probably its the applications fault
[11:37] <george> phoenix_firebrd:I see...
[11:38] <TheLastProject_> Firefox is not running, that's not the problem. The taskbar got bugged because of firefox and wouldn't restore
[11:38] <TheLastProject_> And damn, something broke when I choose "New Setting" and then logged back in...
[11:39] <TheLastProject_> Well, at least the task bar is normal again
[11:39] <george> TheLastProject: try this kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop
[11:39] <phoenix_firebrd> george: the application's publisher has given some dependency requirements in their website, check if all the dependencies are satisfied
[11:39] <george> phoenix_firebrd:ok, thank you.
[11:40] <phoenix_firebrd> george: yw
[11:40] <Inadaptado> Oh, a tzdata update. Have they solved their legal issues?
[11:41] <TheLastProject_> Skype, you buggy software >_>
[11:41] <TheLastProject_> Okay, X session killing time...
[11:41] <phoenix_firebrd> TheLastProject: the dbus might have crashed
[11:42] <Inadaptado> Skype, pffft...  What's yours?
[12:10] <lenzz> i know that my video adapter are not too fast, but oolite does not uses such more graphical resources
[12:10] <lenzz> i'l check now the correct name, and will write it here
[12:10] <Inadaptado> It's not always a matter of resources, drivers play a big role too
[12:19] <lenzz> heh
[12:19] <lenzz> funny thing , dell site tells me  that there is GRAPHICS : INTEL INTEGRATED GRAPHICS MED
[12:19] <lenzz> :D
[12:19] <lenzz> ofcourse i know that
[12:19] <lenzz> but wich model....
[12:20] <lenzz> will tru to search more detal description
[12:20] <Inadaptado> Oh, Intel. No wonder then.
[12:22] <lenzz> whu?
[12:22] <lenzz> no opensource driver?
[12:24] <Inadaptado> Yes, but not as developed as other cards
[12:25] <lenzz> f***
[12:26] <lenzz> but how works compiz effects?
[12:27] <Inadaptado> Do them? I couldn't make it work a couple of Nvidia drivers versions ago
[12:27] <martin__> lenzz: tried to run jockey-kde?
[12:27] <martin__> lenzz: press ALT + F2 and type: jockey-kde
[12:27] <martin__> followed by a light hit on the enter button
[12:27] <lenzz> yes, compiz works too good
[12:28] <lenzz> martin__, and what is it?
[12:28] <lenzz> light version of kde?
[12:29] <martin__> lenzz: no, I mean, press ALT + F2 and type: jockey-kde
[12:29] <martin__> then press enter
[12:29] <lenzz> if i try to go at second terminal console, maybe i not will be back here now
[12:30] <lenzz> current session maybe will not restore
[12:30] <lenzz> i tryed to do that
[12:30] <lenzz> ok, anyway, i will try again
[12:31] <lenzz> and will be back soon if something wrong happends
[12:32] <lenzz> heh
[12:32] <lenzz> martin__ you are about drivers...
[12:33] <lenzz> and i read as " press ctrl+alt+f2" :D
[12:34] <lenzz> heh, no way : no porietary drivers in use...
[12:44] <Atharva> Hi...how to setup mobile broadband connectin in Kubuntu ?
[12:45] <lenzz> go to the wireless icon
[12:45] <lenzz> and find there add network
[12:46] <alexdevillx_> Hi all
[12:47] <alexdevillx_> how to setup my Canon LBP-3010 in Kubuntu
[12:48] <Inadaptado> To do what?
[12:49] <Inadaptado> Oh, he left. Slow.
[12:49] <Inadaptado> No, it was a clone. My brain is not working.
[13:02] <AimOn_> Hi! Just wondering if this is a bug or whatever; I use 11.10 with four virtual desktops. The taskbar is a mess. It shows the tasks / windows running on another desktop . But more often it's just an empty gap instead.
[13:03] <AimOn_> This forces the two row setting, takes a lot of space and looks just awful.
[13:03] <AimOn_> Anyone else got this problem?
[13:09] <Atharva> Hi which is the alternative for xchat for kubuntu ?
[13:10] <lenzz> quassel irc
 HOw to install it ?
[13:14] <lenzz> apt-get install quassel
[13:14] <Atharva> Is it located in KpackageKit ?
[13:14] <lenzz> yes, yau can install it from there too
[13:15] <lenzz> you*
[13:17] <Atharva> lenzz : Thanks a lot :)
[13:17] <lenzz> wellcome :)
[13:18] <lenzz> *u r
[13:18] <lenzz> keyboard stuck...
[13:20] <Atharva> :)
[13:20] <Atharva> Bye lenzzz.......
[13:21] <Atharva> Hi Singham ....r u from India ?
[13:21] <Singham> Atharva : Yes
[13:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas al
[13:29] <BluesKaj> a=all, not just a guy named al :)
[13:32] <spacebug-> ;)
[13:33] <spacebug-> BluesKaj: 'I can call you Betty, and Betty when you cal me you can call me Al' ;)
[13:34] <spacebug-> I really like that I made the switch to kubuntu from ubuntu. KDE has really made progress since I used it in slackware and ubuntu with unity feels less and less configurable
[13:39] <BluesKaj> spacebug-, gnome/unity's loss is KDE's gain. We see a lot of that lately .
[13:40] <spacebug-> ah ok
[13:40] <BluesKaj> to me it's canonical / ubuntu politics
[13:42] <spacebug-> anyone know a good kubuntu new/blog site?
[13:43] <Riddell> kubuntu.org :)
[13:43] <Shaan7> Riddell: +1 :P
[13:43] <Riddell> our personal blogs are just published on planet.kde.org and planet.ubuntu.com
[13:43] <spacebug-> oki doki
[13:45] <Singham> Hi...How to switch from one workspace to other using keyboard ?
[13:46] <spacebug-> Singham: ctrl+F1 (F2, F3..)
[13:47] <student__> .....
[13:47] <BluesKaj> yup, that works here too
[13:48] <Singham> And can i change the keys ? I want Ctrl + Alt + Arrows..
[13:48] <spacebug-> Singham: you can change that in system settings -> workspace behavior -> virtual desktops -> switching
[13:50] <spacebug-> I also found a default setting that changes desktop by scrolling the mouse wheel when over the desktop. (Not what you asked for really but could be useful maybe)
[13:51] <Singham> Thanks..n yeh Its useful :)
[13:51] <spacebug-> ;)
[13:51] <grifo74> hello i am a kubuntu user and i like to remaster my kubuntu to install in other machines or if sistem crash, but remastersys is off exist another aplication to remaster my sistem????????
[13:53] <Singham> !remaster
[13:56] <genii-around> !info oem-config-remaster
[14:03] <phunyguy_> hello all, trying to import my openvpn config file into knetwork-manager, it fails with an obscure error.  I manually put the settings in, and then when i click the connection to connect it does nothing!  Please help...
[14:04] <phunyguy_> I have verified all settings are correct, it just doesn't like me I guess
[14:08] <Atharva> !netstat
[14:18] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[14:22] <El_Saviore> !netstat
[14:23] <El_Saviore> Ha!
[14:24] <BluesKaj> !info nestat
[14:24] <BluesKaj> oops
[14:24] <BluesKaj> !info netstat
[14:24] <lenz> lol
[14:24] <genii-around> Hm
[14:25] <lenz> !info net-tools
[14:25] <BluesKaj> odd, I installed it from the repos
[14:25] <lenz> u need install net-tools
[14:25] <genii-around> Net-tools seems to be the package it resides in
[14:26] <BluesKaj> the factoid bot is dumb , it should have link from net-tools to netstat
[14:27] <pingupingu> hey guys, i just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and the wireless is really slow the max i get is around 100KB
[14:28] <pingupingu> instead of 1000KB
[14:28] <pingupingu> my wireless does not have 802.11n, so disabling that didnt affect the speed
[14:29] <lenz> dont think  that is the proplem of  11.10
[14:29] <lenz> try to restart your access point
[14:30] <pingupingu> lenz: yeah it is the problem of 11.10
[14:30] <pingupingu> there seems to be some bug reports with 11.10 with slow wireless
[14:30] <lenz> it' maybe can be problem of wifi driver
[14:31] <pingupingu> http://askubuntu.com/questions/67638/wireless-internet-extremely-slow-after-updating-to-11-10
[14:31] <pingupingu> yeah i think its the wifi driver problem
[14:31] <lenz> try to reinstall
[14:32] <pingupingu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859151&page=2
[14:32] <pingupingu> lol i don't think that will fix the issue
[14:32] <lenz> whu?
[14:32] <pingupingu> people having the issue on new installs
[14:32] <lenz> delete adapter
[14:32] <lenz> all conf. files
[14:32] <lenz> and try to reinstall
[14:33] <pingupingu> where to delete the adapter and which conf files?
[14:33] <lenz> moment
[14:35] <lenz> 1-st step - try to reinstall Wifi radar
[14:35] <pingupingu> ok
[14:36] <lenz> deleting driver is a bad idea
[14:36] <lenz> because it is module for kernel
[14:36] <pingupingu> yeah, I can rmmod then modprobe, but thats all I can try
[14:37] <lenz> I think there maybe some problems with conf file
[14:37] <lenz> wich wifi adapter do you have?
[14:37] <pingupingu> which conf file are you refering to ? iwl3945
[14:38] <pingupingu> supporting only ab/g
[14:38] <lenz> conf file is for wifi radar
[14:39] <kbroulik> and once agin, the oneiric kubuntu installer is the same crap as the one in natty and in maverick and in lucid and …
[14:39] <pingupingu> ok wifiradar is up and running shows connection to the wifi ap
[14:39] <lenz> i mean not physsicaly con file, maybe after upgrade old settings of your connetcion was affected
[14:39] <lenz> and if you try to delete the connection?
[14:39] <lenz> and recreate it?
[14:40] <lenz> you tried this?
[14:40] <pingupingu> no i didnt try that
[14:42] <pingupingu> well new connection It does not support wpa/psk
[14:42] <pingupingu> dont know what to fill in for UseWPA
[14:42] <pingupingu> Driver:
[14:43] <shane2peru> does anyone know if there is a way in LibreOffice to highlight the row and column that is selected, all the time, so when I select a different row, that row then becomes temporarily highlighted while the cursor is there?
[14:47] <alexdevillx> Got pornosmok
[14:47] <alexdevillx> pornootok
[14:47] <alexdevillx> It's a botnet
[14:48] <lenz> pingupingu wpa?
[14:48] <alexdevillx> Btw why USA need russian pc's for botnet?
[14:48] <pingupingu> yeah wpa
[14:48] <BluesKaj> !porn | alexdevillx
[14:48] <lenz> you need to enter password
[14:49] <kamilnadeem> hi
[14:49] <alexdevillx> BluesKaj: Its a folder name
[14:49] <BluesKaj> alexdevillx, forget the porn stuff, this is afamily chat
[14:49] <pingupingu> ok, its back
[14:49] <alexdevillx> BlueKaj: ok forever why do LA need russian PCs
[14:50] <pingupingu> lenz: it seems that I had to save the network config in networkmanager
[14:50] <pingupingu> so the speed is back up
[14:50] <kamilnadeem> are anyone else having problems in the rstarting /shutting down , the screen dims or goes blacks but nothing happens?
[14:50] <kamilnadeem> Kubuntu 11.10
[14:50] <lenz> pingupingu excuse for what?
[14:50] <lenz> speed backup?
[14:50] <genii-around> alexdevillx: That's still not an on-topic question for Kubuntu support channel.
[14:51] <BluesKaj> alexdevillx, do you have a kubuntu question , if not try #kubuntu-offtopic
[14:51] <pingupingu> back up i mean.. its running full speed now 1000kb
[14:51] <pingupingu> instead of 100kb
[14:52] <lenz> aah
[14:52] <lenz> thats great
[14:52] <lenz> :)
[14:52] <pingupingu> yeap, i hope the conf file sticks
[14:53] <lenz> so there is no bug in 11.10
[14:53] <pingupingu> well the bug is there, as it didn't pickup the new config? after the upgrade
[14:54] <lenz> no, you have your old settings
[14:54] <lenz> of your old connection
[14:54] <lenz> i agree that's not good
[14:54] <lenz> but anyway, problem i in there :)
[14:54] <pingupingu> I didnt' see any error reported in the /var/log/ files for it
[14:55] <lenz> yep
[14:55] <lenz> because this is not error or software bug )
[14:56] <pingupingu> thanks lenz for the help
[14:56] <pingupingu> cant wait for the first alpha for 4.8
[14:56] <lenz> you are wellcome, also you can write on the forum
[14:56] <lenz> maybe it will help to others
[14:58] <lenzz> Folks, someone knows where can I find linux-rt?
[14:58] <lenzz> !pakage linux-rt
[14:59] <lenzz> !info linux-rt
[15:09] <phunyguy_> ok folks, I have samba working, but now I am hitting another roadblock.  The speeds are terrible.. even on 100 meg.  I get 3-5 MB/s, nevermind if i connect to home via VPN (25/10mbit connection) - I get 32KB/s there...
[15:10] <phunyguy_> it doesnt matter if I cmd line mount with the mount command, or smb://server/share in dolphin
[15:10] <phunyguy_> speeds are terrible either way.
[15:10] <lenzz> because smb sucks )))
[15:11] <phunyguy_> lenzz I have to use it.
[15:11] <phunyguy_> got some windoze stuff here at work
[15:12] <lenzz> on windows i think is the same situation with smb
[15:12] <lenzz> anyway it's not fast
[15:12] <phunyguy_> with that being said, in gnome / unity / whatever, using nautilus, the speeds were much better with windows shares.
[15:12] <phunyguy_> so you telling me its a samba issue kind of isnt true
[15:13] <lenzz> it's slow protocol, more slow than ftp
[15:13] <phunyguy_> 32KB/s??  I was at least getting 400-500KB/s with Samba on Nautilus.
[15:13] <phunyguy_> (over my VPN)
[15:14] <lenzz> 32Kb/ps when you transfer files?
[15:14] <phunyguy_> yes. over a VPN with at least 10mbit
[15:14] <lenzz> try to ping -l 1024 our server
[15:14] <phunyguy_> (my isp at home gives me 25mbit down and 10mbit up)
[15:14] <lenzz> ahh
[15:15] <lenzz> that maybe networc specific issues
[15:15] <lenzz> because
[15:15] <genii-around> phunyguy_: There are some good hints for speedup at this site: https://calomel.org/samba_optimize.html
[15:15] <lenzz> 1 - vpn is on cisco ? or its software?
[15:15] <phunyguy_> lenzz: i just told you.  I had gnome running before with nautilus, and was getting speeds 10-15x what I am now
[15:15] <lenzz> I understand
[15:15] <phunyguy_> openvpn. Even without VPN i get 4MB/s over 100 meg.  should be more like 11MB/s
[15:16] <lenzz> but you really know that now your network is ok?
[15:16] <phunyguy_> the only thing that changed is the desktop environment,...
[15:16] <lenzz> you have changed gnuntu?ome on kub
[15:17] <lenzz> gnome > kde
[15:17] <lenzz> ssory
[15:17] <lenzz> ?
[15:17] <phunyguy_> i have formatted the drive and performed a fresh install of kubuntu.  Now I will tell you this, I have seen this issue on other KDE installs as well.  It's why I stopped using it beforehand and went with gnome.
[15:18] <lenzz> dont think that is the problem of Dolphin or smb
[15:18] <phunyguy_> I also know that Samba has an async mode which is supposed to speed up transfers.  Looks like i still uses sync in dolphin
[15:18] <phunyguy_> s/i/it/
[15:18] <lenzz> because same fs type (if you mounting smbfs) or smbclient are in gnome version of ubuntu
[15:18] <phunyguy_> let me try smbclient
[15:19] <phunyguy_> i always get full speed there (because its async)
[15:19] <lenzz> yep
[15:19] <phunyguy_> that will tell me whether it is network related or KDE related  ;)
[15:19] <lenzz> just try to ping -l 1024
[15:19] <lenzz> your server
[15:19] <lenzz> and look at latency
[15:21] <phunyguy_> i am getting full speed with smbclient, as I expected
[15:21] <phunyguy_> so the issue is dolphin / kde
[15:21] <lenzz> hmm , great
[15:22] <lenzz> maybe problem is in config?
[15:22] <lenzz> because Dolphin uses same libraries like smbclient
[15:22] <phunyguy_> my guess is a combination of samba in sync mode, with the slowness of dolphin
[15:23] <phunyguy_> sync mode is terrible with higher latency style connections (wifi / and/or vpn)
[15:23] <lenzz> ofcourse
[15:23] <phunyguy_> which config would that be?
[15:23] <phunyguy_> i am still pulling over vpn
[15:23] <phunyguy_> so its not that config
[15:23] <lenzz> dont know, sorry.
[15:23] <lenzz> I had always problem with smb
[15:23] <phunyguy_> so the culrpit is sync/async
[15:24] <lenzz> I use too vpn at my work
[15:24] <phunyguy_> and the fact that it isn't in the cifs kernel mod yet
[15:24] <phunyguy_> that will improve speed
[15:24] <phunyguy_> smbclient transfers in async
[15:24] <phunyguy_> and it is QUITE fast
[15:24] <lenzz> you have connection to your remote desctop using RDP protocol?
[15:25] <phunyguy_> what does that matter?
[15:25] <phunyguy_> i am on my netbook connecting to home.
[15:25] <lenzz> you can mount your linux drive via RDP
[15:25] <phunyguy_> via smb
[15:25] <phunyguy_> no.
[15:25] <phunyguy_> not.
[15:25] <phunyguy_> i need samba to work properly.
[15:25] <phunyguy_> NEED.
[15:26] <lenzz> ok )))
[15:27] <MDesade> hello all, i have some really weird questions for you all about IRQs and the PCI bus under kubuntu 11.04 - 64bit
[15:28] <BluesKaj> phunyguy_, if this is on a LAN, try ssh with X forwarding
[15:28] <phunyguy_> why?
[15:28] <phunyguy_> (its not btw)
[15:29] <lenzz> and what about ftpd on windows?
[15:29] <lenzz> or sftpd if you need sequre connection?
[15:31] <phunyguy_> ok i changed the mount option in /etc/fstab to include async mode, and now i get 100KB/s to home - still reaaallly slow.. just not AS slow.
[15:32] <phunyguy_> let me try straight CP
[15:32] <phunyguy_> err "cp" command
[15:33] <BluesKaj> phunyguy_, scp gives me up 12mb/sec
[15:33] <phunyguy_> ok you guys are missing my point,
[15:33] <phunyguy_> I need Samba to at least perform like it does in Gnome
[15:34] <phunyguy_> SAMBA
[15:34] <BluesKaj> samba due to windows pcs on the network , right ?
[15:34] <phunyguy_> I need to mount these shares to physical directories
[15:34] <phunyguy_> that as well as other things
[15:35] <phunyguy_> "Samba sucks" is a cop out IMO...
[15:35] <phunyguy_> samba DOESNT suck in Gnome.
[15:35] <phunyguy_> "as bad"
[15:35] <phunyguy_> :P
[15:35] <BluesKaj> !who | phunyguy_
[15:36] <phunyguy_> BluesKaj: Sorry.  Didnt realize so many messages were scrolling...
[15:37] <BluesKaj> phunyguy_, so you're complaining about a slow connection thru samba...is the data encrypted by any chance ?
[15:37] <phunyguy_> BluesKaj: not any more than it is going through smbclient
[15:38] <BluesKaj> yeah, samba is just a gui for smbclient
[15:38] <phunyguy_> BluesKaj: what..?
[15:39] <phunyguy_> !samba
[15:39] <BluesKaj> !smb
[15:39] <BluesKaj> !smbclient
[15:40] <BluesKaj> hmm, maybe I'm mistaken ..I always thought that
[15:40] <phunyguy_> BluesKaj: Samba is the entire suite as a whole
[15:40]  * BluesKaj checks in synaptic
[15:40] <phunyguy_> Dolphin is the gui, smbclient is a command line "client"
[15:40] <BluesKaj> yeah , i did say gui
[15:41] <phunyguy_> BluesKaj: I'm noob-ish, but I'm not a complete noob. I know how Samba operates, and I know that it could perform much better than it does in KDE.
[15:42] <phunyguy_> fyi, using cp, I still get about 100KB/s
[15:42] <phunyguy_> going to try on the box with gnome.
[15:42] <phunyguy_> actually that wouldnt be a good test...
[15:43] <gtwin> Hello is there a work around for the printer bug.  Have reinstalled cups, still nothing.  Have not found anything on forums
[15:43] <shane2peru> coming in in the middle, but, personally I like NFS better than samba, but I'm not using Windows boxes.
[15:43] <phunyguy_> yeah shane2peru, thats the issue.  Windows boxes (i use this netbook at work as well as home)
[15:43] <shane2peru> ah, ok, in that case, just null and void my comment. :)
[15:44] <phunyguy_> no need :)
[15:44] <phunyguy_> brb
[15:46] <BluesKaj> phunyguy_, odd that it's so slow ...my wife's windows pc transfers at 7Mibs/sec
[15:46] <lenzz> it's because phunyguy uses vpn
[15:46] <BluesKaj> using samba
[15:47] <BluesKaj> why use vpn on a LAN ?
[15:47] <lenzz> sequre )))
[15:48] <lenzz> and if there is 3des encryption in vpn, 12mb/ps is good speed
[15:49] <BluesKaj> lenzz, it's a LAN , not a WLAN
[15:49] <lenzz> BlueKaj, we don't know, maybe there is hub
[15:49] <lenzz> )))
[15:50] <phunyguy_> BluesKaj: I'm not
[15:50] <BluesKaj> anyway , I don't work with office type networks so I guess there are other considerations in the mix
[15:50] <phunyguy_> I'm at work, accessing files on the lan, as well as stuff from home via VPN
[15:51] <lenzz> phungyguy, I advise to use ftp
[15:51] <phunyguy_> lenzz, can I mount the ftp connection as a firectory?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> ftp? ..it's not secure
[15:51] <phunyguy_> directory*
[15:51] <phunyguy_> and i dont need secure, the VPN is secure
[15:51] <lenzz> phunyguy offcourse yes
[15:51] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:51] <lenzz> and if you need secure connection, you can use sftp
[15:52] <BluesKaj> so you can ftp over vpn ?
[15:52] <phunyguy_> BluesKaj: why wouldnt I be able to?
[15:52] <phunyguy_> also, that doesnt solve my problem of 40% speed on LAN
[15:52] <phunyguy_> where smbclient gets me 100%
[15:53] <lenzz> you can not use 60% of lan speed anyway
[15:53] <phunyguy_> holy crap.
[15:53] <BluesKaj> dunno, I'm asking . phunyguy_ ...what's with the attitude
[15:53] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:53] <lenzz> )))) how smb can get 100% utilisation of lan?
[15:53] <lenzz> your hdd can not write or read files with tat speed
[15:54] <lenzz> *that
[15:54] <phunyguy_> BluesKaj: not trying to, but patience is an issue this morning. I apologize.  I am merely saying that smb itself performs great... just not via the cifs mount commands
[15:54] <phunyguy_> lenzz, i say 100% meaning 100% of what I would get with all that in mind.
[15:54] <Be0rn> Bonjour
[15:54] <phunyguy_> Mr nitpick...
[15:54] <BluesKaj> phunyguy_, yeah that's a mystery about samba
[15:55] <phunyguy_> no i know what the issue is.
[15:55] <phunyguy_> but it is made worse in KDE vs Gnome
[15:55] <phunyguy_> THATS what I am asking about
[15:55] <lenzz> phunyguy, does not metter wich GUI do you use
[15:55] <phunyguy_> I dont mind getting 8-9MB/s like I was in gnome, (instead of the 11MB/s I would get with async transfers)
[15:55] <bobweaver> !BEST
[15:56] <phunyguy_> but 4MB/s is awful in comparison.
[15:56] <lenzz> 4 megabytes per second?
[15:56] <lenzz> from wan?
[15:56] <phunyguy_> yes on 100mbit
[15:56] <lenzz> aah
[15:56] <phunyguy_> LAN
[15:56] <lenzz> yeah, you are right
[15:57] <lenzz> that's bad
[15:57] <phunyguy_> 8-9MB/s means crappy samba
[15:57] <phunyguy_> 4MB/s is crappy KDE... lol
[15:57] <lenzz> Man, that's not problem of kde
[15:57] <phunyguy_> ...it only happens in KDE...
[15:57] <lenzz> at me smb on kde works great
[15:58] <phunyguy_> define great.
[15:58] <lenzz> like on windows
[15:58] <phunyguy_> oh lord, I get 11MB/s on windows ;)
[15:59] <lenzz> so
[15:59] <lenzz> maybe there is another problem?
[15:59] <phunyguy_> you are running me around in circles.
[16:00] <rork> phunyguy_: by your conversation I think you have a low transfer speed at samba when you use Dolphin but not with a client like `scp` ?
[16:00] <lenzz> because i transfer 3 gb in 10 minutes
[16:00] <phunyguy_> I know its not that fast in linux, 8MB is an OK tradeoff... (which i get in ubuntu/xubuntu), and I get 4MB/s in Kubuntu
[16:00] <gtwin> is this the right channel for help?  I am having a hard time finding information on when/if a bug is going to be fixed and how to find a work around for printing in 11.10
[16:00] <phunyguy_> rork, I use smbclient and get full speed
[16:00] <phunyguy_> the issue is dolphine.
[16:00] <phunyguy_> -e
[16:01] <lenzz> phunyguy
[16:01] <lenzz> can you write here two things
[16:01] <lenzz> ping your_home_ip -l 1024
[16:02] <phunyguy_> why does it have to be home? Why cant I do LAN?
[16:02] <lenzz> traceroute your_home_ip
[16:02] <phunyguy_> LAN is an issue as well
[16:02] <lenzz> to understand what happening, first we must to check all steps
[16:02] <lenzz> and network is the first step
[16:03] <lenzz> first level
[16:03] <phunyguy_> ok on LAN i can tell you right now the server I am transferring from is 1 hop away.
[16:03] <phunyguy_> and the latency is 1ms
[16:03] <lenzz> not on lan, to your home computer
[16:03] <phunyguy_> its not just home that is the issue
[16:04] <phunyguy_> and if i trace to home, thats 1 hop as well
[16:04] <phunyguy_> (VPN, remember?)
[16:04] <phunyguy_> ping is 60ms
[16:04] <lenzz> don't believe
[16:04] <lenzz> screenshots, traces pls
[16:05] <phunyguy_> 14 hops to home, max hop time 35ms
[16:06] <phunyguy_> thats all you get.
[16:06] <lenzz> ping over vpn? tell me latency
[16:06] <phunyguy_> that was 60ms
[16:06] <lenzz> ping ip -l 1024
[16:06] <phunyguy_> sorry, 32ms now
[16:06] <phunyguy_> was transferring files before
[16:08] <lenzz> wich encryption method do you use on vpn
[16:08] <phunyguy_> AES-CPC 128
[16:08] <phunyguy_> err CBC
[16:08] <phunyguy_> dont see why that matters
[16:08] <phunyguy_> smbclient gets full speed
[16:08] <phunyguy_> :P
[16:08] <FloodBotK1> phunyguy_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:08] <FloodBotK2> phunyguy_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:09] <lenzz> so , if with smbclient everything is ok, seems that something wrong with smb config in dolphin
[16:09] <phunyguy_> ....
[16:09] <lenzz> try to tune it
[16:10] <phunyguy_> thats what I am saying.  dolphin can open smb shares with smb://
[16:10] <phunyguy_> where the heck would I tune that?
[16:10] <phunyguy_> in the source?
[16:10] <lenzz> KDE 4.x is capable of authenticating aganist Samba shares. You just have to either pre-provide credentials ( set them in System Settings > Sharing ) or provide them in the URL ( smb://user@server/share )
[16:11] <lenzz> no, not this
[16:11] <lenzz> sorry
[16:11] <lenzz> will find now
[16:12] <lenzz> there is some settings
[16:12] <lenzz> for smb
[16:13] <lenzz> try to look here : /etc/samba/smb.con
[16:13] <lenzz> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[16:14] <phunyguy_> lenzz, that is how i configured the samba server at home  ;)
[16:16] <BluesKaj> phunyguy_, I know this is off the topic somewhat, but do you use a staitic IP or a dns service for dynamic in order to run vpn over the internet?
[16:17] <phunyguy_> BluesKaj: DynDNS.
[16:17] <BluesKaj> phunyguy_, ok thanks
[16:17] <phunyguy_> BluesKaj: np
[16:18] <Deet`> yesterday kaffine played movies just fine, today, giant blue screen. why does something new go wrong every day with me? :(
[16:18] <phunyguy_> Deet`: the KDE Gods hate us.
[16:18] <BluesKaj> Deet`, what about dragon player ?
[16:19] <Deet`> i'll have to install that
[16:20] <BluesKaj> Deet`, which kubuntu version ?
[16:20] <Deet`> archaiac 8.04
[16:21] <BluesKaj> ok , methinks an upgrade in order
[16:21] <BluesKaj> 10.04 LTS is almost off the books
[16:22] <Deet`> 11 didn't like my gfx card and my craptastic internet made me go with what i already had
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Deet`,  which gfx card?
[16:22] <Deet`> ATI Radeon 9550
[16:22] <phunyguy_> ouch, old.
[16:23] <Deet`> i think it was day before yesterday we were trying nomodeset on it?
[16:23] <Deet`> all my gear is old
[16:23] <BluesKaj> not too bad , 	 still run a geforce 7600gt without any trouble
[16:23] <Deet`> i haven't bought a desktop in 10 years, i get everyone elses garbage :P
[16:24] <Deet`> i have a Pentium 2 with Windows XP on it :P
[16:24] <phunyguy_> same here Deet` - I had to start turning stuff away
[16:24] <Deet`> i never turn it away unless i know it's two old
[16:24] <phunyguy_> this netbook was free.
[16:24] <phunyguy_> (bad HDD)
[16:24] <Deet`> but then i usally rape it for parts anyway
[16:24] <phunyguy_> (now has a freebie SSD i picked up from a vendor)
[16:24] <Deet`> sweet
[16:24] <lenzz> phunyguy, there is too much topics on forums. but really at my pc, everything works ok
[16:25] <slipp3d> Deet you could try one of the linux mint debian version that might work better then that old version of ubuntu
[16:25] <phunyguy_> lenzz, i demand a screenshot of file transfer.. and speed....  ;)
[16:25] <Deet`> and for the record, dragon player does the same
[16:25] <Deet`> audio works, vidoe is blue
[16:26] <BluesKaj> Deet`, codecs
[16:26] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[16:26] <BluesKaj> it might help
[16:26] <phunyguy_> Deet`: got a free steak dinner at a high class spot downtown and a free Kingston 96 gig SSD (top of the line model) - courtesy of kingston.
[16:26] <phunyguy_> (thanks to my job)
[16:28] <BluesKaj> ok ,lunchtime ..bbl
[16:29] <phunyguy_> lenzz: I am taking one for you as well.
[16:30] <Deet`> BluesKaj: thanks
[16:30] <Deet`> phunyguy_: i am jealous
[16:31] <Deet`> gotta poof
[16:32] <phunyguy_> hmmm tinypic keeps crashing konqueror
[16:32] <lenzz> wait
[16:33] <lenzz> i'm trying to upload screenshots
[16:33] <lenzz> 1Mbps over Wifi
[16:33] <phunyguy_> what service are you using?
[16:34] <lenzz> Dolphin
[16:34] <phunyguy_> sorry, where are you uploading them to
[16:35] <lenzz> I'm downloading from Winxp
[16:36] <lenzz> how can i send you screenshots
[16:36] <lenzz> dcc?
[16:37] <lenzz> skype?
[16:37] <phunyguy_> hmmm...  all sites that allow file upload are crashing konq
[16:37] <phunyguy_> means i found a bug
[16:38] <phunyguy_> lol
[16:38] <phunyguy_> installing firefox
[16:38] <lenzz> tell me url
[16:38] <phunyguy_> of?
[16:39] <phunyguy_> i was just going to the tinyurl site, then i went to facebook
[16:39] <lenzz> where can i upload pic
[16:39] <phunyguy_> both crashed rekonq
[16:39] <phunyguy_> err not tinyurl, tinypic
[16:39] <phunyguy_> i googled tinypic and clicked the first link
[16:39] <lenzz> )) rekonq buggy browser like ie
[16:40] <lenzz> install opera or chrome
[16:40] <phunyguy_> yeah lenzz - i just like its KDE integration so much
[16:40] <phunyguy_> seems like lots of stuff in KDE is buggy ;)
[16:42] <lenzz> i found one
[16:42] <lenzz> wait
[16:44] <phunyguy_> there, for cryin out loud
[16:44] <phunyguy_> http://tinypic.com/?t=postupload
[16:44] <phunyguy_> GRR>>>
[16:44] <phunyguy_> http://i56.tinypic.com/2gslkcj.jpg
[16:45] <lenzz> http://uploadpic.org/v.php?img=9dVaoNfktS
[16:46] <lenzz> http://uploadpic.org/v.php?img=OG8QxEWLyq
[16:46] <lenzz> http://uploadpic.org/v.php?img=NY1x98af0e
[16:47] <phunyguy_> 871.2KB/s ?
[16:47] <phunyguy_> ahh that is via Wifi
[16:47] <phunyguy_> 1mb you said
[16:47] <lenzz> http://uploadpic.org/v.php?img=0QJqexz6rt
[16:48] <phunyguy_> yeah i dont even touch that.  what protocol?
[16:48] <phunyguy_> samba?
[16:48] <lenzz> here is 1.1
[16:48] <lenzz> offcouse
[16:48] <phunyguy_> man what the heck then...
[16:48] <lenzz> and this is wifi
[16:48] <lenzz> not the lan
[16:48] <phunyguy_> its a fresh install of kubuntu
[16:49] <phunyguy_> i dont get it
[16:49] <phunyguy_> what version of KDE are you on?
[16:49] <lenzz> I think its problem with network
[16:49] <lenzz> kde?
[16:49] <lenzz> dont know
[16:49] <lenzz> i have kubuntu 11.10
[16:49] <phunyguy_> 4.7 then
[16:50] <phunyguy_> i am going to boot a livecd on my work PC..
[16:50] <phunyguy_> see how it looks htere
[16:50] <phunyguy_> there*
[16:50] <lenzz> yes
[16:50] <lenzz> good idea
[16:50]  * BluesKaj wonders about buffer size in smb.conf  , http://www.computerhope.com/unix/smbclien.htm
[16:51] <phunyguy_> i'm gonna laugh if it flies.
[16:51] <phunyguy_> BluesKaj: server side?
[16:51] <lenzz> wich model of web book do you use?
[16:51] <phunyguy_> Samsung N150, lenzz
[16:52] <BluesKaj> phunyguy_, no , clientside , guess that won't help then
[16:53] <lenzz> folks, no one knows where can i get linux-rt??
[16:53] <BarkingFish> !info linux-rt oneiric
[16:54] <lenzz> Ж\
[16:54] <lenzz> :\
[16:54] <BarkingFish> i thought it was a package :P  what is linux-rt?
[16:55] <BluesKaj> torrent client for cli ?
[16:55] <lenzz> yep pakage
[16:55] <lenzz> nono
[16:55] <lenzz> realtime patch for kernel
[16:56] <lenzz> or it's module, does not remember
[16:56] <danmoran_> someone can help me
[16:56] <phunyguy_> !ask | danmoran_
[16:56] <BarkingFish> looks like the last release it was seen on, lenzz - was lucid according to packages.ubuntu.com
[16:56] <danmoran_> problems with lightdm and kde
[16:57] <BarkingFish> !info linux-rt lucid
[16:57] <BluesKaj> !lightdm
[16:57] <lenzz> :((((
[16:57] <BarkingFish> lemme see if the devs know anymore
[16:58] <lenzz> BarkingFish. that's bad, really
[16:58] <BluesKaj> daqn lightdm is a ubuntu display manager  don't think it will run on kubuntu ..kdm is the bdefault here
[16:58] <BluesKaj> danmoran_,^
[16:59] <BarkingFish> lenzz- just spoke to the dev channel, it appears linux-rt no longer exists.  We just have virtual, server and generic kernels now
[16:59] <danmoran_> Someone can help, i have problems with lightdm and kde
[17:00] <lenzz> thnx in advance
[17:00] <lenzz> will ask now
[17:01] <BarkingFish> danmoran_, BluesKaj just addressed your question. If you want us to help, you need to tell us exactly what is wrong - we know you have problems, but we do need to know what they are :)
[17:01]  * BarkingFish he
[17:01]  * BarkingFish gets his crystal ball out of the cupboard
[17:01] <binarymaster> Can anyone help me with amarok not playing mp3's I have done the get codec in amarok and I have also apt-get installed libxine1-ffmpeg
[17:01] <binarymaster>
[17:01] <binarymaster> still no mp3
[17:01] <BarkingFish> !mp3
[17:02] <BluesKaj> danmoran_, you need to stop kdm at the TTY, then start lightdm , sudo service kdm stop then sudo service light dmstart
[17:03] <BluesKaj> err lightdm start
[17:04] <billybigrigger> BluesKaj: you a long time kde user?
[17:09] <pwb48> I'm creating a deb package to replace a package I previously released.  The original package ran a script that created some config files.  When I run dpkg --install on the new package, it seems to uninstall the old version (deleting config files) and then reinstalls the new one.  Anyone know how I can ensure the config files are kept during the upgrade?
[17:12] <BluesKaj> billybigrigger, yup right from the my linux beginnings
[17:12] <billybigrigger> BluesKaj: how the hell do i tell what video driver im using?
[17:12] <billybigrigger> trying to get kubuntu 11.10 working properly on my sisters nvidia powered laptop...
[17:13] <billybigrigger> it won't come out of sleep/hibernation, after the lid is closed, and the bootup is all garbled...
[17:13] <billybigrigger> all is well when im inside the de though...
[17:14] <billybigrigger> and jockey says there's no restricted drivers to install...i guess a geforce 8600m isn't supported or is jockey full of it
[17:15] <genii-around> !info nvidia-current
[17:15] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-cache policy nvidia-current ..he driver should be 280.13
[17:15] <BluesKaj> the
[17:15] <genii-around> billybigrigger: Do you have the "restricted" repository enabled?
[17:16] <billybigrigger> yeah i know how to poll apt-cache, that doesn't mean THAT driver is being used though
[17:16] <BluesKaj> billybigrigger, install , kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:17] <billybigrigger> k im going to sit at her laptop and try and figure some of this out...
[17:17] <BluesKaj> billybigrigger, als don't forget medibuntu
[17:18] <BluesKaj> also
[17:19] <pawleeq> Hello
[17:20] <pawleeq> I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and also upgraded to KDE4.7.2, after this, Kmail refuses to work saying: Failed to fetch the resource collection. Any clue anybody please?
[17:21] <billy2> BluesKaj: ok nvidia-current wasn't installed, but is now...
[17:21] <billy2> now how do i check what driver xorg is using...
[17:22] <BluesKaj> kmail has a bug migrating your settings from the previous OS, pawleeq
[17:23] <billy2> ooh dkms is doing it's thing...atleast i know it's building a module...
[17:23] <BluesKaj> billy2, run sudo nvida-xconfig
[17:23] <BluesKaj> after dkms is done
[17:23] <pawleeq> BluesKaj: I know about that (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259355), the described solution does not work for me
[17:23] <billy2> nvidia kms is b0rked still yes?
[17:24] <billy2> BluesKaj: right arm...lets try a reboot
[17:24] <billy2> thanks
[17:24] <BluesKaj> depends on the hw , billy2 some need the nomodeset in grub to load X
[17:24] <BluesKaj> too quick
[17:25] <pawleeq> Ok is there any way to save my mail without working kmail?
[17:29] <billy2> BluesKaj: beauty, resume works great, thanks a ton
[17:29] <billy2> oh why couldnt ati have their poop in a group like nvidia...im tempted to buy another laptop to replace my ati powered one...
[17:29] <billy2> :P
[17:29] <BluesKaj> billy2, some need the nomodeset in grub to load X , but obviously yours doesn't
[17:29] <billy2> can't justify it yet though, it still *works*
[17:30] <BluesKaj> right
[17:30] <billy2> no, the bootsplash after grub looks about 640x480....but i guess she can deal with it haha
[17:31] <BluesKaj> it's just a splash page, what's the res in system settings> display & monitor
[17:31] <BluesKaj> billy2, ^
[17:31] <billy2> 1390x1200 or something, very nice
[17:32] <BluesKaj> oik  good
[17:32] <billy2> 1366x768 haha waay off
[17:32] <billy2> i was thinking 1900x1200...but yeah looks good
[17:32] <billy2> thanks again
[17:33] <lenzz> pawleeq u r from russia?
[17:33] <BluesKaj> billy2, i have an elcheapo acer laptop with nvidia onboard and it works great on 11.04 ...can't try 11.10 til daughter returns it tho.
[17:33] <billy2> off to install nfs on my other fresh kde install, i just converted over 2 gentoo boxes and my sisters laptop to kubuntu oneiric, BluesKaj you'l be seeing me here a fair bit i would assume haha
[17:33] <USguy1127> I accidentaly installed the Ubuntu Software Centre in Kubuntu 11.10. How do I remove it and all of the files that got installed along it?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> billy2, cool, looking forward to it :)
[17:34] <billy2> BluesKaj: good luck with that acer? i've always ran/sold people on hp laptops...they seem to run smooth in nix
[17:34] <kubunter_85> hi everyone I'm experiencing an issue, I have my headphones plugged in and I can hear the audio just fine thorugh them, if I unplug those the audio won't be played. Can anyone help please?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:34]  * whytlyon has acer :( oh well
[17:35] <BluesKaj> whytlyon, , acer runs kubuntu very well in my experience, including the atheros wifi
[17:36] <whytlyon> it loaded all right, i have a question about wifi keys if there is a queue of sorts
[17:37] <BluesKaj> nope whytlyon , just ask
[17:38] <billybigrigger> kubunter_85: have you played around in kmix
[17:38] <billybigrigger> ?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, so no audio thru the speakers ?
[17:38] <whytlyon> k, well, 11.04 loaded and dual booted like a dream, first time i configured wifi to WEP ASCII fine, but it doesn't seem to remember or reconnect from boot to boot. Shows 2 instances of configuration. is there a better wireless configurator i could be using?
[17:38] <billybigrigger> your soundcard is working obviously, just sounds like a mixer issue to me, someone correct me though
[17:38] <kubunter_85> billybigrigger: yes I did and no change whatsoever.
[17:39] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: nope... headphones only
[17:39] <AndroidLoverInSF> is it possible to upgrade kde 4.6 on ubuntu 10.10 to kde 4.7?  i already have kde 4.6, but it doesnt upgrade to 4.7. how, if possible?
[17:40] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, open alsamixer in the terminal , and if you have a speaker ctrl , make sure it's turned up and unmuted , no "M" in the box .
[17:40] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: do I launch alsamixer by typing the command 'alsamixer'? (sorry I'm kinda newbie)
[17:41] <BluesKaj> yes
[17:41] <billybigrigger> BluesKaj: you use rekonq in kde?
[17:43] <phunyguy_> lenzz: BluesKaj: I tried on a liveCD - different workstation, same results.
[17:43] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj, with kubunter_85's audio problem, might be wise to run off an lspci -v | grep Audio i'm thinking, and I'll run it through launchpad to see if anyone else has the same issue with the card...
[17:43] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: weird, I have turned on basically everything and now the speaker icon actually shows some waves but the audio issue stays pretty the same
[17:43] <phunyguy_> 4MB/s over LAN
[17:43] <BarkingFish> kubunter_85, could you open a terminal, and do lspci -v | grep Audio - when you get those results, assuming anything shows up, add the results to paste.ubuntu.com  and put the url of the paste into this channel please :)
[17:44] <BluesKaj> billybigrigger, no , Firefox and up until recently chromium until it screwed my facebook page and handed over the account o my wife's page ...couldn't figure out how to fix that so I'm using FF
[17:44] <lenzz> phunyguy , maybe parformance issue?
[17:44] <phunyguy_> performance of..?
[17:45] <BarkingFish> kubunter_85, you can open a terminal by pressing ALT and F2 together, and typing  konsole  :)
[17:45] <phunyguy_> if you mean network performance, my internet connection here easily reaches 10MB/s
[17:45] <LINKSWORD2> Hey now, keep it rated-G.
[17:45] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, what does the driver say in alsamixer on the top left
[17:45] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[17:45] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:45] <lenzz> phunyguy , how mutch ram on your desktop, processor etc, also configuration of smb resource
[17:46] <phunyguy_> lenzz: desktop has 8 gigs RAM, and tri-core AMD processor (B73)
[17:46] <kubunter_85> BarkingFish: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/715332/
[17:46] <lenzz> :\ strange
[17:46] <phunyguy_> server is a dual core xeon with 3 gigs RAM.
[17:46] <lenzz> really strange
[17:46] <phunyguy_> lenzz, i KNOW
[17:46] <phunyguy_> lol
[17:46] <lenzz> :\
[17:47] <billybigrigger> phunyguy_: do you have the proper network setup? ie switches/cables to allow you more than 4MB/s?
[17:47] <billybigrigger> nics?
[17:47] <BarkingFish> thanks kubunter_85 - what version are you running? 11.04 or 11.10?
[17:47] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: HDA Intel
[17:47] <phunyguy_> billybigrigger: see my previous messages.  Going out to the internet I easily reach 10MB/s  (YES MEGABYTES)
[17:47] <kubunter_85> BarkingFish: 11.10
[17:47] <phunyguy_> from this workstation
[17:47] <billybigrigger> k well what nic is in the server then?
[17:47] <BarkingFish> thank you, kubunter_85
[17:47] <BarkingFish> one moment
[17:48] <phunyguy_> billybigrigger: I wish I knew - not managed by me
[17:48] <phunyguy_> not the one here anyway
[17:48] <phunyguy_> the one at home I am unsure of at the second
[17:48] <phunyguy_> but using smbclient I get my full pipe in performance
[17:48] <billybigrigger> do you have shell access to the server? run lspci on it
[17:48] <phunyguy_> wait one
[17:49] <billybigrigger> so when are you only getting 4MB/s?
[17:49] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, can you take a screenshot of alsamixer with the PrtScn key and paste it in imagebin pls
[17:49] <BluesKaj> !imagebin
[17:49] <phunyguy_> when transferring with dolphin and cp at command line, billybigrigger
[17:49] <billybigrigger> oh yeah that's expected
[17:50] <phunyguy_> billybigrigger: why?
[17:50] <billybigrigger> if your xfer'ing via commandline, use scp, you'll get full bandwidth
[17:50] <phunyguy_> with reg ubuntu and nautilus, I would get around 8-9MB/s - even with cp.
[17:50] <billybigrigger> dunno, limitations of the software? :P use scp waaay faster, i can get 50MB/s over scp on my home network
[17:51] <LINKSWORD2> Hey everybody, I'm running Kubuntu 11.04. I *REFUSE* to upgrade to 11.10 until several bugs are resolved.
[17:51] <LINKSWORD2> My problem is that I need to upgrade to the newest version of Firefox, but I've forgotten how to make it update.
[17:51] <Deet`> hrm. "E: Couldn't find package app-install-data-medibuntu" when trying in to install the mediabuntu packages
[17:51] <phunyguy_> well heres what i know.  Samba has sync and asycn transfers.  smbclient uses async, kernel mod uses sync.
[17:51] <Pici> LINKSWORD2: 11.04 has the same version of Firefox than 11.10 does.
[17:51] <phunyguy_> but with that in mind I was getting 8-9MB/s with sync
[17:51] <phunyguy_> and 11MB/s with async (smbclient)
[17:52] <Pici> !info firefox natty
[17:52] <phunyguy_> moved to KDE... got 4MBs
[17:52] <LINKSWORD2> Pici: The same that installs by default. I need to upgrade it, however.
[17:52] <Pici> !info firefox oneiric
[17:52] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj, this is strange.  I've looked over launchpad for bugs involving the 82801I series Intel cards, and i'm finding kubunter_85's problem the other way round, but not in the format he has it. Might be worth filing on if it can't be sorted.
[17:52] <Pici> LINKSWORD2: To 7?
[17:52] <billybigrigger> phunyguy_: try scp and tell me what you get
[17:52] <BarkingFish> I'm seeing issues with no sound via headphone, but via speakers, not the other way
[17:52] <LINKSWORD2> Yes.
[17:53] <phunyguy_> scp to the windows host..?
[17:54] <billybigrigger> oh i thought this was nix / nix transfers
[17:54] <billybigrigger> you can scp FROM the windows host to your nix server
[17:54] <Deet`> http://paste.kde.org/136405/ i'm thinking mediabuntu doesn't support 8.04 anymore
[17:54] <billybigrigger> winscp i believe will do it
[17:54] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, in some cases where there are hdmi outputs they become default in the kernel module and have to be blacklisted
[17:55] <BarkingFish> that's a thought, BluesKaj - any chance of a look in the Multimedia KCM, see which outputs are default?
[17:55] <Pici> LINKSWORD2: Make sure that you have the security or updates repositories enabled, thats all.
[17:55] <LINKSWORD2> Pici: May I chat with you one-on-one?
[17:56] <Pici> LINKSWORD2: I'd prefer to keep things in-channel if possible.
[17:56] <lenzz> phunyguy , you are shure do not want to use ftp?
[17:56] <lenzz> or only for test
[17:56] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85,  do you have hdmi ctrl listed in alsamixer or in kmenu>computer>system settings>multimedia>phonon>device preference
[17:56] <lenzz> maybe really your switch is overloaded?
[17:57] <kubunter_85> BarkingFish, BluesKaj: ok this is what I am experiencing right now, these are my steps: 1. volume up master channel; 2. play video with headphones and it works; 3. unplug headphones and automatically master goes down to zero and I don't hear anything 4. even if I volume up master with headphones unplugged still I can't hear a thing.
[17:57] <lenzz> or your administrator had turn on quos?
[17:57] <phunyguy_> billybigrigger: I dont have access to the windows server like that
[17:57] <lenzz> or firewall issues
[17:57] <phunyguy_> just have access to fileshares
[17:58] <BarkingFish> I assume all the usual things, the basics, have been done, kubunter_85 - you do have external speakers, and they are plugged into the correct socket on the rear of your pc, and if they're mains powered, obviously that they'd be switched on and running...
[17:59] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, strange , run this command in the terminal , cat /proc/asound/modules
[17:59] <AndroidLoverInSF> is it possible to update kde from 4.6 to 4.7 on ubuntu 10.10 and stay on 10.10?
[17:59] <BarkingFish> not trying to be patronising in any way, just looking at the obvious ground level of the problem before we dig much much deeper :)
[17:59] <pawleeq> lenzz: nope :)
[17:59] <lenzz> )))
[18:00] <gunksta> KDE doesn't do well with syncing to Google Services. Google Services typically don't sync well to anything else. I'd like to have shared calendars, address books, etc. and I'd like to share this between my laptop and phone AND I want to host it myself. Any suggestions?
[18:00] <lenzz> your nick sounds like Pavlik
[18:00] <kubunter_85> BarkingFish: I'm on a notebook so I have no sockets or plugs problem
[18:00] <lenzz> it's russian name
[18:01] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: 0 snd_hda_intel
[18:02] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, that's the correct module , but it's unloading after you unplug your 'phones
[18:02] <pawleeq> lenzz: yes it does, Pavlik is diminutive from Pavel, it comes from latin word "paulus" which stands for small
[18:02] <lenzz> yeah )))))
[18:02] <BarkingFish> kubunter_85, back in your terminal, after you do what BluesKaj mentioned above, could you run   lsmod | grep hda - and tell me if you see these 3 modules in the output please?  snd_hda_codec_realtek, snd_hda_intel and snd_hda_codec  please?
[18:03] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, just try this in the terminal , see if alsmixer master comes back up , sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[18:03] <pawleeq> lenzz: and my nick is composed to sound exactly like that... russian a czech is quite similar
[18:03] <LINKSWORD2> I've installed Muon, but when I check the details of Firefox in there, it shows version 3.6.3. I need to upgrade to something higher than 3.6.
[18:03] <pawleeq> have to go now, bye
[18:03] <lenzz> aah, understand )) bye ))
[18:04] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, the snd_hda_intel is the default by the "0" designation in lsmod
[18:05] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj, yes, I just want to ensure that all three of the modules are loaded :)
[18:05] <BluesKaj> default module
[18:05] <BarkingFish> I needed all three to get my Intel sound card to run
[18:06] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: nothing changed :(
[18:06] <BluesKaj> odd , on some itels the hdmi codec module had to be blacklisted
[18:07] <kubunter_85> BarkingFish: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/715347/
[18:07] <BarkingFish> thanks
[18:07] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, ok now run , sudo alsa force-reload
[18:07] <BarkingFish> That's the kicker, BluesKaj :)
[18:07] <BarkingFish> He has the hdmi codec module loaded
[18:08] <BarkingFish> Mine wouldn't work with that in place, i have a feeling he may need to blacklist that out
[18:10] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: I get this message "failed: processes still using sound devices: 10426(pulseaudio)
[18:10] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, there's no card 0 default listed there..we need to look at alsa.conf and index
[18:13] <billybigrigger> where are dolphins preferences?
[18:14] <phunyguy_work> the little wrench on the top right, billybigrigger
[18:14] <soee> how can i create virtual host on my server pointing to some direcotry ?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, ok , alt+f2 , kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , add , ' options snd_hda_intel index=0 ' ,under the line, # Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0
[18:15] <billybigrigger> phunyguy_work: beauty thanks
[18:15] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, then save the file
[18:17] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: ok, done
[18:18] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, ok now pulseaudio might be broken , but run sudo alsa force-reload , again and then try the speakers
[18:20] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: :( no change
[18:22] <BluesKaj> ok kubunter_85 , let's try without pulseaudio, we can aleays reinstall it if we need to , sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio , but this time will need to reboot afterwards
[18:23] <phunyguy_work> billybigrigger: no problem.
[18:24] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: ok uninstalled, so now I need to reboot I guess
[18:24] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: see ya in a bit
[18:24] <BluesKaj> yup
[18:24] <billybigrigger> which font setting controls the Kicker Menu?
[18:24] <billybigrigger> ie, all other fonts are set good, but the K menu font is soo small it's barely readable
[18:25] <billybigrigger> i can change the "General" Font to 14 to make the menu readable, but everything else is HUGE
[18:27] <BluesKaj> billybigrigger, run kdesudo systemsettings in run command ..it might work...I haven't had much luck with kde fonts as root but it might work for you
[18:28] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: rebooted
[18:29] <billybigrigger> BluesKaj: why as root?
[18:29] <billybigrigger> i dont ever login as root
[18:30] <BluesKaj> billybigrigger, when calling up files requiring root access , the fons' set in system settings as user won't apply
[18:30] <billybigrigger> oh
[18:30] <billybigrigger> makes sense
[18:31] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, any luck ?
[18:31] <Amgine> Is there a way to boot kubuntu on a stick on a macbook?
[18:31] <BluesKaj> !ub
[18:31] <billybigrigger> Amgine: good kubuntu live usb
[18:31] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: nope :(
[18:31] <BluesKaj> !usb
[18:31] <billybigrigger> no no
[18:31] <billybigrigger> he wants live usb
[18:32] <billybigrigger> don't you? you want to run kde from a usb stick? or just install?
[18:32] <billybigrigger> Amgine: ?
[18:32] <billybigrigger> BluesKaj: that's how i read it anyway :P
[18:32] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: and now it doesn't work from headphones either
[18:35] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: so now do I reinstall pulseaudio? :O
[18:36] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, yes for starters
[18:38] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: do I need to reboot after reinstalling? :O
[18:38] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, check phonon in system settings , multimedia again
[18:38] <BluesKaj> no need to reboot yet
[18:39] <kubunter_85> I have just reinstalled pulseaudio, is it ok anyway if i take a look now?
[18:39] <BluesKaj> yes
[18:39] <shlomy> Hello... When starting admin apps (e.g. Muon package mananger or System settings) from the KDE menu, they seem to run without root permissions, so anything I try to do with them fails with an authorization error dialog. Any idea?
[18:39] <shlomy> I am on kubuntu 11.10
[18:40] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: well it says audio server pulseaudio and there's a nice huge '?' as icon
[18:40] <kennethlakin> Is this the place to ask questions about the KDE Network Management Plasmoid in Kubuntu 11.10?
[18:41] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, run , sudo alsa force-reload
[18:42] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: done
[18:42] <BluesKaj> kubunter_85, of check phonon again
[18:43] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: unchanged
[18:43] <BluesKaj> ok kubunter_85 , this is what I don't like abourt pulseaudio , all the reboots ..reboot again
[18:44] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: ok so I need to reboot, that's fine
[18:44] <BluesKaj> then we may need to blacklist thje hdmis
[18:44] <kubunter_85> BluesKaj: as long as it pays off!! :P
[18:45] <shlomy> Anyone knows why Muon package manager and System Settings cannot perform any changes (and give an authorization error) when started from the KDE menu?
[18:46] <yofel> shlomy: press ctrl+esc and check if you have a 'polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1' process
[18:46] <Amgine> BillyBigRigger: Macbooks do not look at USB during boot.
[18:47] <BluesKaj> Amgine, can you set the boot sequence in your bios , or is there no usb boot option ?
[18:48] <lenzz> linux can run on macbook?
[18:49] <BluesKaj> lenzz, maybe from a livecd or usb ?
[18:50] <shlomy> yofel: Thanks, I don't have it
[18:50] <shlomy> yofel: How do I add this service?
[18:50] <Amgine> Well, linux works great on a macbook, but the boot sequence does not allow bios access. Rather it's something else weird.
[18:50] <lenzz> BluesKaj, maybe, from usb... there is intel cpu right?
[18:51] <Amgine> Yes
[18:52] <yofel> shlomy: bah, it should be running... press alt+f2 and run: /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1
[18:52] <shlomy> yofel: And this would cause it to run every startup?
[18:52] <LINKSWORD2>   Hmm.... I've got Muon installed, how can I get it to check for a newer version of Firefox?
[18:52] <yofel> shlomy: do you have the 'polkit-kde-1' package installed?
[18:53] <yofel> LINKSWORD2: open the muon *package manager* and check for updates
[18:54] <shlomy> yofel: It is not installed. When I want ot install it, synaptic tells me I need to get rid of dozens of packages., including eclipse, cups , ... Is that sensible?
[18:55] <yofel> uhm, not really, but that's the package that contains the authentification daemon you need
[18:55] <shlomy> yofel: Thanks, I see, I picked the wrong one, of i386
[18:55] <yofel> and it's there by default on kubuntu installs, except there's a bug that it's not installed when you install kubuntu-desktop on another *buntu install
[18:59] <shlomy> yofel: That's it, I installed kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu 11.10
[18:59] <shlomy> yofel: Now that I installed it, and ran the agent manually, Muon works fine
[18:59] <yofel> yeah, that would cause this :/
[19:00] <shlomy> yofel: But will it launch automatically on each restart? (The agent)
[19:00] <yofel> it will
[19:02] <shlomy> yofel: Another question, if you know - I am unable to drag files from krusader to my editor through the task bar entry
[19:02] <yofel> hm, that sounds vaguely familiar, but I can't remember right now what to do about it. sry
[19:03] <shlomy> So I'll refer to the other members... Anyone knows why I can drag a file from Krusader to my editor window directly, but can't do it through the editor's task bar entry? (e.g. when Krusader is maximized and I don't see the editor window)
[19:04] <LINKSWORD2> yofel: I've checked for updates for Firefox, but it's still showing me version 3.6.3.
[19:04] <yofel> LINKSWORD2: you're on what release?
[19:05] <|INTENCE_TROLL|> HI
[19:05] <yofel> then again, 3.6.3 is lucid release
[19:05] <LINKSWORD2> Kubuntu 11.04. I REFUSE to upgrade to 11.10 for the way it glitched with my system.
[19:05] <yofel> which is ancient
[19:06] <yofel> LINKSWORD2: what does running 'apt-cache policy firefox' tell you?
[19:06] <LINKSWORD2> Didn't know about that. I'm checking that now.
[19:06] <yofel> LINKSWORD2: you'll need to run it in konsole
[19:06] <LINKSWORD2> Yes, I know.
[19:08] <LINKSWORD2> Installed: None. Candidate 3.6.3 buildl+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[19:08] <yofel> are you *sure* your sources are intact?
[19:08] <yofel> !info firefox natty
[19:08] <LINKSWORD2> No, I'm not sure.
[19:08] <LINKSWORD2> How can I update the sources?
[19:09] <LINKSWORD2> Or make sure they're  correct?
[19:09] <yofel> LINKSWORD2: refresh your cache in muon - or run: sudo apt-get update
[19:11] <LINKSWORD2> I just checked it in Muon again. Still the same version.
[19:11] <LINKSWORD2> This is getting REALLY annoying. :(
[19:12] <yofel> LINKSWORD2: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get update' please?
[19:12] <yofel> it's quite a bit
[19:12] <LINKSWORD2> This is where I begin to prefer one-on-one level chats because of the ability to get or receive help from one individual.
[19:15] <LINKSWORD2> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/715397
[19:17] <yofel> LINKSWORD2: according to  that output - you're running maverick (10.10). Firefox 3.6.23 is the newest you can get from the offical archive.
[19:17] <yofel> there are firefox 7 packages in https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable though
[19:18] <phunyguy_netbook> is kopete able to connect to Office Communicator? (SIPE)
[19:18] <LINKSWORD2> I just upgraded.... WTF?
[19:18] <yofel> LINKSWORD2: how did you upgrade?
[19:19] <LINKSWORD2> Official upgrade link in KPackage.
[19:19] <yofel> hm, your sources say something else
[19:20] <yofel> you can upgrade by running 'sudo do-release-upgrade' in Konsole too
[19:20] <yofel> that'll take you to 11.04
[19:20] <LINKSWORD2> *Facepalm.*
[19:20] <LINKSWORD2> This is getting annoying. :(
[19:25] <LINKSWORD2> I guess I'll have to upgrade again.
[19:26] <LINKSWORD2> Another question. Is there a way I can snap web browsers into the toolbar?
[19:27] <LINKSWORD2> I want to have a browser open, but when I minimize it, I want it to be just the browser's icon.
[19:46] <luchrv> Buen Día alguien me puede ayudar?
[19:46] <LINKSWORD2> luchrv: espanol?
[19:46] <luchrv> si
[19:46] <luchrv> yes
[19:46] <LINKSWORD2> !es
[19:47] <luchrv> thanks
[19:47] <LINKSWORD2> No problem.
[20:11]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[20:42] <billybigrigger> any nfs gurus here?
[20:42] <martin__> maybe if you ask
[20:43] <billybigrigger> who needs to own the folder i am exporting on the server
[20:43] <yofel> nfs 3 or 4?
[20:43] <billybigrigger> 4
[20:43] <billybigrigger> drwxrwxrwx 8 billybigrigger billybigrigger 4096 2011-10-18 17:19 Storage1
[20:43] <billybigrigger> drwxrwxrwx 5 billybigrigger billybigrigger 4096 2011-10-17 13:30 Storage2
[20:43] <yofel> well, *that* should work in any case
[20:43] <billybigrigger> and my /etc/exports have them listed as rw
[20:44] <billybigrigger> http://pastebin.com/14pTiV2t
[20:44] <billybigrigger> there is my /etc/exports
[20:46] <krise> can anybody tell me why i have sound with VLC player but i dont have a sound with amarok and youtube
[20:46] <krise> HP probook 4520
[20:47] <billybigrigger> check your phonon backend?
[20:47] <billybigrigger> what output is amarok using?
[20:47] <krise> i dont know billybigrigger
[20:48] <krise> i need step by step help
[20:48] <yofel> billybigrigger: hm, here's mine:
[20:48] <yofel> /srv/nfs4  <IP_ADDRESS>/24(fsid=0,no_subtree_check)
[20:48] <yofel> /srv/nfs4/ext  <IP_ADDRESS>/24(rw,sync,nohide,no_subtree_check)
[20:52] <krise> gstreamer ?
[20:53] <krise> ok, i dont know how i got amarok sound back, but youtube is still without sound
[20:56] <billybigrigger> yofel: it was the nohide option for all my subdirs...
[20:57] <billybigrigger> funny though, the NFS howto @ http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ has no mention of the nohide option
[20:58] <billybigrigger> oh well, it's working, and streaming of 720p video wirelessly over NFS works, i'm happy :P
[20:58] <billybigrigger> mind you the permissions i have set are VERY open...
[21:18] <Gnome232fanonly> I have herd about plasma avtive it will not take over plasma desktop right??????????
[21:19] <bossix4> русские есть ?
[21:20] <genii-around> !ru | bossix4
[21:25] <pawleeq> hello again
[21:25] <pawleeq> I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and also upgraded to KDE4.7.2, after this, Kmail refuses to work saying: Failed to fetch the resource collection. Any clue anybody please?
[21:26] <pawleeq> I just want to save my mail, which is organized in local folders
[21:30] <LINKSWORD2> OK, I'm back. Uh... I'm interested to know if I can snap Rekong or other browsers into the system tray.
[21:31] <LINKSWORD2> I like being able to run online stuff, but I don't want it in the way while I'm doing other things if I'm just listening to YouTube or something.
[22:09] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[22:09] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[22:11] <Stu2097> hello
[22:12] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys, is there a way for me to add an additional command to Konsole while it's running active text, like to shutdown or restart after a distro upgrade?
[22:13] <LINKSWORD2> It's already performing the upgrade, so I want to know if I can add a command while Konsole is adding new text to the display window.
[22:14] <frogonwheels> LINKSWORD2: you can kinda type ahead - but there will be a few points where the upgrade will require user intervention (updated config files) ...
[22:14] <frogonwheels> LINKSWORD2: so not a good idea really.
[22:15] <LINKSWORD2> Shoot. I have to leave, therefore I can't stay to monitor the system.
[22:15] <LINKSWORD2> Anything I can do about that?
[22:16] <frogonwheels> LINKSWORD2: about the reboot after, you can ctrl+z and type  fg && reboot now
[22:17] <frogonwheels> LINKSWORD2: but not aqbout any questions that come up
[22:17] <LINKSWORD2> Too bad there's not a way to pre-set the responses to the upgrade questions....
[22:18] <frogonwheels> not afaik
[22:19] <LINKSWORD2> This is something that is needed, then. For situations exactly like this....
[22:21] <LINKSWORD2> frogonwheels: Do you know of any way I can snap programs like Rekong to the System Tray?
[22:22] <yofel> LINKSWORD2: that should be possible since KDE 4.6 I think (by "show a launcher for this app if it isn't running")
[22:23] <yofel> I don't think you can make it show only an icon though *while* it's running
[22:23] <yofel> unless you put the panel vertical
[22:23] <LINKSWORD2> And yet, that's what I want to do.
[22:23] <LINKSWORD2> Make it snap into the System Tray bar when it's minimized. (So I can listen to music on Youtube while I'm doing other stuff.)
[22:24] <sizz> I'm now on Kubuntu 11.10. Do we still need to add a ppa to get regular point releases of KDE, or is this taken care of automatically now?
[22:25] <yofel> sizz: PPA, 4.7.2 will get into the archive soon, but 4.7.3 will be PPA-only again for a while
[22:27] <sizz> okay, just checking. it's not a problem, but I heard talk a while back that things were moving to auto-update for minor point releases.
[22:28] <yofel> sure, natty for example has 4.6.5 in -updates. It's just that -updates has quite a bit of bureaucracy associated with it
[22:33] <billybigrigger> yofel: any reason why i can't create btrfs partitions in kde?
[22:33] <yofel> using what?
[22:34] <billybigrigger> kde partition manager
[22:35] <billybigrigger> im sure i can use mkfs.btrfs but kde partition manager SHOULD be able to do ti
[22:35] <billybigrigger> it
[22:35] <billybigrigger> right?
[22:35] <yofel> *should* yes - question is if it's implemented. Or if our version is too old
[22:36] <billybigrigger> brtfs has been around in *buntu for about a year now, i should be by now haha
[22:49] <aperson> every time I start kde, I get a messaging saying that nepomuk is disabled.  I *know* I disabled it.  How can I get rid of this notification?
[23:16] <Linkmaster> I'm installing 11.10, and began the installation process, and the installer isn't picking up my keyboard..so I don't know what to do now
[23:17] <Linkmaster> nevermind, I found the problem(loose cable in the hardware)
[23:50] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: ping
[23:50] <Daskreech> HI
[23:51] <Linkmaster> I've got the new 11.10 installed, maybe the card will work?
[23:55] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: I tried 'sudo ifconfig wlan0(its called that now) up' and it says 'SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory' which makes no sense to me