[00:00] <kostkon> popsch, both of the commands are 100% safe
[00:00] <popsch> kostkon, yep, autoclean cleaned up a lot
[00:00] <kostkon> nice
[00:01] <GetCodeMonkey> I swear if I hit the power ball jackpot I will pay someone to fix this for me lol
[00:01] <popsch> my congratulations to the whole ubuntu community. I know how hard it is to ensure that dist-upgrades are working. all the services seem to run flawlessly. thanks
[00:02] <ubuntu-tester> Why kernel headers are installed by default? why non-tech user would need them?
[00:02] <kostkon> popsch, happy to hear that. i have had a similar experienced. many dist-upgrades, all successful.
[00:03] <thedark12> I always have the weirdest problems
[00:03] <thedark12> I have been using ubu tu for 5 years and I can never get a problem solved in chat
[00:03] <kostkon> ubuntu-tester, i think the kernel headers are needed for dkms, or whatever is called. it rebuilds certain modules after every kernel update
[00:04] <kostkon> ubuntu-tester, like for example, non-free drivers.
[00:04] <GetCodeMonkey> I feel the same way thedark12
[00:04] <GetCodeMonkey> I will say at least people respond here
[00:04] <GetCodeMonkey> in the Mint Linux chat when I was asking I got silence
[00:05] <thedark12> I get silence
[00:05] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> You Do
[00:05] <thedark12> That is why I guess my problems are weird
[00:06] <thedark12> The whhile reason I am using 10.4 is because I cant get later versions to work with tv out
[00:06] <bubba99> blkadder  r u still here
[00:06] <thedark12> Nobody could help with that
[00:06] <thedark12> Now I need to manually upgrade qt to use some software
[00:07] <thedark12> Because I cant use the repo stuck with the old version
[00:07] <ubuntu-tester> kostkon: any other examples? if i don't use non-free drivers, would i need headers?
[00:08] <thedark12> Googled and manually did make install but the software doesnt recognize that I have upgraded
[00:08] <GetCodeMonkey> I am guessing you got silence because unless you have someone write a new driver for it your sol
[00:08] <ikonia> ubuntu-tester: if you don't need them remove them
[00:08] <thedark12> I guess
[00:08] <ikonia> ubuntu-tester: if you're not sure, leave them, they will cause no harm and take up a very small ammount of disk space
[00:09] <ubuntu-tester> ikonia: i will, but want to be sure
[00:09] <ikonia> ubuntu-tester: sure about what ?
[00:10] <kostkon> ubuntu-tester, jsut keep them, to be on the safe side
[00:10] <ubuntu-tester> ikonia: sure nothing in the system would need them
[00:10] <ikonia> ubuntu-tester: why do you want to remove them ? what problem are they causing you ?
[00:10] <ikonia> they take up about 2k of disk space, and if you are in any doubt....which it sounds like you are, why remove them
[00:11] <CT1> Hi all.  I seem to have grub/windows loader on the wrong hdd.  I need my  1TB (media disk) connected to boot.  Yet Win7 and Ubuntu are both on another partitioned disk.  How can I fix this? any how-to on the web would be much appreciated.
[00:11] <ubuntu-tester> ikonia: well in the 1st place i learn the system. the minor reason is to save traffic updating them with the kernel
[00:12] <ikonia> ubuntu-tester: the package is about 2k - it's not really a saving
[00:12] <ikonia> and what are you learning about the system by removing them......nothing
[00:13] <thedark12> So how about qt? There is no way to uograde it without upgraing from 10.04?
[00:13] <ikonia> thedark12: not from the ubuntu repos, is there a reason you need an upgrade ?
[00:14] <ubuntu-tester> ikonia: funny, i misread it as 2M
[00:14] <ph4nt0m> re
[00:14] <Eagleman> Can i mount an existing folder as a different owner, folder: test  owner test, mounted folder: test owner test1
[00:14] <ikonia> Eagleman: the permissions are at the file system level - not the mount
[00:15] <ph4nt0m> c"est quoi le nom du pack pour le son sur ubtu
[00:15] <ph4nt0m> svp
[00:15] <ubuntu-tester> ikonia: what about linux-libc-dev?
[00:15] <ikonia> ubuntu-tester: what about it ?
[00:15] <ikonia> ubuntu-tester: none of this is instaled by default
[00:15] <ph4nt0m> jai essayer alsamixer mais ca fonctionne pas
[00:16] <kunji> GetCodeMonkey: 12.04 is LTS, you're looking to run 3  monitors, umm, how easy or difficult that is depends on just what your setup is.  I've had hell trying to get 2 graphics cards to output at once (one nvidia and one ATI card), but for instance, my current setup uses an A10 APU and 3 monitors was as simple as just connecting them and using the proprietary ATI driver.
[00:16] <ubuntu-tester> ikonia: i have it installed in quantal. no non-free drivers, no dkms
[00:17] <Eagleman> ikonia, its not possible to add " virtual permissions"  to a mounted folder?
[00:17] <Note_> is it possible to make a new user on a ubuntu server but give that new user access to exactly what root has access to
[00:17] <ubuntu-tester> !fr | ph4nt0m
[00:17] <ikonia> Eagleman: no, beyond acls
[00:17] <ikonia> but that's not what you want
[00:17] <Botanic> I am trying to package a application when I run debuild -S however when i run it i get the following error http://codepad.org/66UKDNAa
[00:18] <kunji> bubba99: Still here?  I'm not sure what the > means.
[00:18] <ph4nt0m> what is the gui to mix sound plaese i tryed alsamixer but no pack in the rpos
[00:19] <kunji> Note_: It's certainly possible, you mean via sudo right?  You just need to add them to the sudoers file.  A quick google for "add user to sudoers file" should turn up exactly how you do it.
[00:19] <bubba99> hi kunji  yes still here. i didnt want to do anymore till i discussed this. when i type a command in now it just gives me another line with the > on it
[00:19] <Note_> kunji, thank you
[00:19] <CT1> How can I see (and change) what disk my os(s) boot from?
[00:19] <bubba99> kunji in other words the leading comment on each line (initramfs) has now disappeared.
[00:20] <Eagleman> ikonia, i want some of my local folders mounted in my www directory ( owncloud ) , what would be a good way to secure those things, so when my owncloud setup is hacked,  the files are still safe
[00:20] <ikonia> Eagleman: use the correct permissions
[00:20] <kunji> bubba99: hmm, what does it show you if you use "ls -la"  ?
[00:21] <dr_willis_> CT1:  the bios settings
[00:21] <kunji> bubba99: Both are lowercase "L" there
[00:21] <Eagleman> correct permissions as in?
[00:21] <ikonia> Eagleman: as in set the permissions for the user you want to use the files
[00:21] <bubba99> kunji i am just preparing the livecd again on usb. this time i am doing it in IE instead of chrome and i also realixed that i was putting the ubuntu download file on the usb with the unetbootin transfer as well. so i put that in a different location on hdd this time and took it from there
[00:21] <GetCodeMonkey> kunji problem is I have two monitors
[00:21] <GetCodeMonkey> I am sorry two video cards
[00:22] <GetCodeMonkey> If I had one video card that supported 3 monitors it would be so easy
[00:22] <ubuntu-tester> ikonia: linux-headers-generic is a meta-package linux-headers-<version> are a real headers and thay are 12M compressed
[00:23] <kunji> GetCodeMonkey: Yeah, 2 tends to be difficult, I've never gotten it working, but I always figured it would be easier if the ones I was trying to use were the same make, or used the same driver.
[00:23] <bubba99> kunji   that command just gives a > again
[00:23] <ikonia> ubuntu-tester: so ?
[00:23] <kunji> bubba99: No output?  Hmm, how about pressing ctrl+C does that give you back the other prompt?
[00:23] <GetCodeMonkey> Kunki that may be why it worked for me before I had the same video cards before one died and I replaced it with a cheap one
[00:23] <GetCodeMonkey> I quit gaming so I figrued it would not matter
[00:24] <ubuntu-tester> ikonia: just the answer to your "the package is about 2k - it's not really a saving"
[00:24] <bubba99> kunji  ok my usb is ready again now
[00:24] <bubba99> ctrl c  = no change   >
[00:24] <kunji> bubba99: I suppose try the usb again, I think I'm out of ideas T.T
[00:25] <bubba99> kunji  should i just try normal boot first?
[00:25] <ubuntu-tester> ikonia: still interested in the reason they are installed
[00:25] <ikonia> ubuntu-tester: sure sure, but I suspect you'd be unwise to remove them as libc-dev and the headers are not installed by default (I'm sure someone running a clean install can verify)
[00:25] <bubba99> kunji  in recovery mode ?
[00:25] <kunji> bubba99: It can't hurt, but we didn't really change anything.
[00:25] <CT1> dr_willis_:  I must press F12 at boot to select my disk that I have all my media on (video/mp3/text) as the boot disk for grub to work properly.  I want to have it boot from the disk my operating systems are installed on instead (as I remove the "media" disk frequently)
[00:26] <GetCodeMonkey> Kunji I may look into getting a new video card that will support all 3 monitors at once
[00:26] <djskidd> hello
[00:26] <ph4nt0m> what is the gui to mix sound plaese i tryed alsamixer but no pack in the rpos
[00:27] <kunji> dr_willis: GRUB might be installed to the external drive for CT1
[00:27] <Fudge> anyone use live-build, having trouble with config/chroot I think, for the kernel and also console-common though I have universe etc enabled
[00:27] <djskidd> I must be going crazy, but is there a beta out for 13.04 yet?
[00:27] <dr_willis_> CT1: install grub on the internal drives
[00:27] <kunji> GetCodeMonkey: Hmm, I've heard of people getting it to work with different cards, I've just never managed to.
[00:28] <floogy> nginx-extras - nginx web server with full set of core modules and extras
[00:29] <floogy> Does that package lack auth_digest module?
[00:29] <GetCodeMonkey> Kunji I managed to once along time ago and then I screwed the install up. Reinstalled and never could get it right again
[00:29] <kunji> CT1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing  Probably want to look at "Reinstalling GRUB2 from a Working System"  and do it on your internal drive.
[00:30] <floogy>  [emerg] 20626#0: unknown directive "auth_digest" in /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/default:45
[00:31] <floogy> It's this module https://github.com/samizdatco/nginx-http-auth-digest/blob/master/readme.rst
[00:32] <CT1> dr_willis_: Thanks for the advice.  kunji: Extra thanks for the link!
[00:33] <bubba99> kunji  i ran recovery mode. we have more info now that before  mount: mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/b13717b1-d190-4e22 bla bla bla on /rootfailed:invalid argument . begin: running /scripts/local-bottom....done  done.
[00:34] <kunji> bubba99: So is this still the GRUB shell you're in, or the proper Ubuntu recovery one?
[00:35] <ubuntu-tester> ikonia: have traced deps with aptitude: linux-libc-dev -> libc6-dev -> gcc -> ubuntu-desktop. description for the latter: "This package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu desktop system. It is also used to help ensure proper upgrades, so it is recommended that it not be removed." so it's a Canonical's desision to include gcc and krenel headers in desktop system by default. even if no dkms is installed (my example). i want to know the reason for
[00:35] <bubba99> begin: running /scripts/init-bottom mount: mounting /dev on / root/dev failed: no such file or directory then the same message below this as originally from mount syson/root no such file directory down to try passing init=bootarg
[00:35] <ikonia> ubuntu-tester: errr gcc for upgrades....don't think so
[00:35] <smw> Hi all, I am right now running the 12.10 live cd. I have the installer open. I chose "manual partioning" and the screen that came up only shows two of my hard drives. The third (which I wish to install ubuntu on) isn't there. However, the "device for boot loader installation" does show it. What should I do to try to debug it?
[00:36] <smw> I want to install on sda but it only shows sdb and sdc for partitioning
[00:36] <bubba99> kunji still in grub shell (root sheel i guess)
[00:36] <histo> smw: open a terminal and sudo fdisk -l
[00:36] <histo> smw: please pastebin the output of that command
[00:36] <kunji> bubba99: b13717b1-d190-4e22-ab90-b767-c7b9952d, ok, so it is trying to load the correct uuid, Well, does say fdisk -l work now?
[00:36] <bubba99> kunji  do  i try the bios change to usb and run livecd
[00:36] <jrib> ubuntu-tester: gcc is a "Recommends" of ubuntu-desktop
[00:37] <kunji> bubba99: If it does, then we have the useful shell, otherwise go for running the livecd
[00:37] <smw> histo: http://fpaste.org/nW0M/
[00:37] <danman1453> hello all
[00:37] <bubba99> kunji fdisk -l no change still says not found
[00:37] <danman1453> anybody here have experience with nginx configuration?
[00:38] <ph4nt0m> anyone knos lxde?
[00:38] <smw> !anybody | danman1453
[00:38] <ubuntu-tester> jrib: you're right. i've missed this. then why it's on my system? i didn't build anything
[00:38] <kunji> bubba99: Then yeah, back to the livecd I guess.
[00:38] <histo> smw: not sure why the partitioner isn't showing sda.  Your live cd is seeing it from that pastebin.
[00:38] <ph4nt0m> why no sound out there
[00:38] <bubba99> gone shutdown again and try livecd on usb. i changed the files on their now since last try
[00:39] <bubba99> kunji *going to
[00:39] <smw> histo: http://imgur.com/uxHbcXy
[00:39] <jrib> ubuntu-tester: well apt-get installs recommends by default and I'm going to assume the same behavior is true of the initial install
[00:39] <kunji> bubba99: Yep, hopefully it works
[00:39] <histo> smw: that's bizare
[00:39] <smw> histo: yes it is
[00:39] <jrib> ubuntu-tester: as to /why/ it's there at all, I cannot tell you
[00:40] <danman1453> I have ubuntu 11.10 running, with nginx and php5-fpm installed. I can browse to the index.html (welcome to nginx page), but not the index.php page. The page generated claims "no input file specified"
[00:40] <smw> histo: every release, I get more fed up with ubuntu... :-\
[00:40] <ph4nt0m> no help off course
[00:41] <danman1453> can anybody help me with this?
[00:41] <ph4nt0m> ciaoo
[00:41] <ubuntu-tester> danman1453: you better ask this on #nginx
[00:41] <jrib> smw: pretty sure this bug was fixed, but check if sda is mounted
[00:42] <danman1453> oh, thanks <ubuntu-tester>
[00:42] <mojtaba> Hi
[00:42] <smw> jrib: mount | grep sda returns nada
[00:43] <jrib> smw: great, that's not it then :)
[00:43] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I have bash shell support unicode?
[00:43] <smw> mojtaba: it is set to utf-8 by defualt...
[00:43] <smw> mojtaba: it does support unicode
[00:43] <bubba99> kunji  do i set to usb cd rom or usb hard disk in the bios? does it matter as long as i set HDD to 6th
[00:43] <jrib> smw: one more... check if swap is getting used: swapon -s
[00:43] <mojtaba> smw: I have some file names in Persian, but it just show them reverse
[00:44] <smw> jrib: nada
[00:44] <kunji> bubba99: Hmm, it probably doesn't matter, if it doesn't work then maybe try the other way just in case.
[00:44] <bubba99> ok selected usb hard drive
[00:44] <smw> mojtaba: Persian is read right to left?
[00:44] <mojtaba> smw: yep
[00:44] <smw> mojtaba: not sure how you fix that... never had to deal with that myself
[00:45] <jrib> smw: file a bug
[00:45] <smw> jrib: got a link with instructions?
[00:45] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I use RTL language in bash shell?
[00:45] <mojtaba> smw: ok, thanks
[00:46] <jrib> !bug | smw
[00:46] <smw> jrib: thanks
[00:46] <jrib> smw: if you want to get it installed, and can't find a way to make the live cd you have work, you might try the minimal or server install
[00:47] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I use RTL language in bash shell?
[00:47] <smw> jrib: this is actually my first time using the live cd
[00:47] <smw> jrib: I always used the alternative cd... but apparently that is no longer supported...
[00:48] <jrib> smw: that's right, but the minimal and server installer will use the installer you're used to from the alternate cd.  You just have to be sure to install ubuntu-desktop and you should end up with the same end-result as using the live cd
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> alternative cd is gone in 12.10+
[00:49] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I use RTL language in bash shell?
[00:50] <ubuntu-tester> mojtaba: what language?
[00:50] <mojtaba> persian
[00:50] <vampirnata> could someone please type my nick? I would like to check if my highlighting is working.
[00:50] <madprops> vampirnata: no
[00:51] <VlanX> hello, what command can i type to see which driver is used by all my NICs ?
[00:51] <bubba99> kunji  ok nothing happening - its just a dark screen with a single  _ in the top right corner. usb stick was flashing and is now constantly lit.  if i shut down again and go through recovery mode and then put the usb in I bet it will respond and give something
[00:51] <vampirnata> Thanks :)
[00:51] <VlanX> ahha lol
[00:51] <smw> Dr_Willis: yep, I knew that
[00:51] <kunji> bubba99: Hmm, the usb is constantly lit?  Try doing a ctrl+alt+f1 when it's in that state
[00:52] <smw> Dr_Willis: this is why I am trying ubiquity in the first place ;-)
[00:52] <bubba99> kunji  just beeps at me - no change
[00:52] <bubba99> still lit
[00:53] <mojtaba> ubuntu-tester: Do you have any idea?
[00:54] <kunji> bubba99: Sorry, I don't know what else to try.
[00:55] <jordan__> Can somebody tell me why when installing 12.10 the options to encrypt the installation are greyed out / unavailable ?? tried googling couldnt find anything
[00:55] <smw> jrib: what package do I specify as the problem?
[00:55] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I use RTL language in bash shell?
[00:55] <mojtaba> Does it support it?
[00:55] <jrib> smw: ubiquity
[00:55] <bubba99> kunji me neither. i may have  to pack it up and send it back to the seller and get him to fix it
[00:55] <smw> jrib: ah, of course
[00:55] <ubuntu-tester> mojtaba: actually no. just googling. see if this can help: http://projects.arabeyes.org/download/documents/howto/arabic-howto-en/index.html
[00:56] <AndChat330644> My openvpn works on ubuntu but my Android client wants P:OpenVPN ROUTE: OpenVPN needs a gateway parameter for a --route option and no default was specified by either --route-gateway or --ifconfig options. Never asked for that until latest update
[00:56] <bubba99> kunji anyway thanks for trying to help me. you gave me plenty of things to try
[00:56] <bubba99> kunji   i do have 1 last question for you
[00:57] <ubuntu-tester> AndChat330644: latest update of openvpn?
[00:57] <kunji> bubba99: ?
[00:59] <bubba99> kunji   how do i know what system is running under ubuntu. i read that some are windows based and some are linux based. how do i know? when i did boot it before the problem it just went straight to ubuntu logo????
[01:02] <coldpizza72i> how do i find the process that is using dpkg?
[01:02] <lubuntu13> On a Macbook 2,1 with Ubuntu 12.10 I am having problems with the wireless connection whereas with Lubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) it worked just about fine. Now pinging the router doesn't even always work, and forget pinging google.com, I might get a 700ms response and then 7 Destination Host Unreachable and then 400ms... By the way I have a Win7 right beside, with consistent ~50ms pings to
[01:02] <lubuntu13> google.com with no dropped packets. Any help immensely appreciated.
[01:02] <kunji> bubba99: Ubuntu uses the linux kernel.  It is possible to run it in a virtual environment that might have a different host OS, for instance in VMWare.  Or are you asking about the Wubi installer?  I'm not exactly sure how the Wubi installer works.
[01:03] <lubuntu13> BTW my wireless card is atheros ar5418
[01:05] <bubba99> kunji  its only what i have been reading. the online shop were i got the notebook laptop from told me the OS system is ubunto 12.04LTS . the live cd we are creating from unetbootin says it is windows based. when i ran the middle option which is linux based it did not load the same on the usb? I wonder if i should try this option again????
[01:05] <histo> bubba99: which vender didyou buy the laptop from?
[01:05] <histo> bubba99: I would contact them as there should be support
[01:06] <kunji> bubba99: Oh, that, they're just referring to whether you're creating the livecd on windows or on linux.  You're making it on a windows machine right?  So they are referring to it as a "windows based" install.
[01:07] <kunji> bubba99: Or is this something unetbootin itself asks?
[01:07] <smw> jrib: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1101952
[01:07] <bubba99> histo  yeah i think they will support. they sent me a link to ubuntoforum post about the problem and that is what i have been trying. i will contact them again on monday when they reopen. they may be able to help over the phone but i expect if push comes to shove the machine will have to go back for them to sort it out
[01:07] <ubuntu-tester> what's the difference between linux-image-generic and linux-image-extra-generic (version omitted)?
[01:08] <kunji> bubba99: Can you link the page to the directions you're using?
[01:08] <bubba99> kunji  unetbbootin has 3 options available for creating the livecd. i dont remember what the third was
[01:09] <kunji> bubba99: Ok, if it's something unetbootin is asking, then you probably want the linux option
[01:09] <jordan__> Can somebody tell me why when installing 12.10 the options to encrypt the installation are greyed out / unavailable ?? tried googling couldnt find anything
[01:09] <jrib> smw: looks good, you can see in the UbiquityPartman.txt there's no mention of sda too
[01:10] <smw> jrib: yeah, saw that
[01:10] <smw> jrib: the reason I am upgrading is that gnome-shell starts using up a ton of cpu for no reason occassionally...
[01:10] <kunji> bubba99: I'm not seeing an option like that: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[01:11] <jrib> smw: what version are you on now?
[01:11] <smw> jrib: was hoping an install of the newest would fix it
[01:11] <smw> jrib: 12.04
[01:11] <bubba99> kunji  i did try the linux option but it seemed to load differently. thinking about it though, it may have been because i copied over the top of the existing windows copy on the usb. i think i will scrub the usb and start fresh with the linux option
[01:11] <jrib> smw: you know you can just do an in-place upgrade?
[01:11] <smw> jrib: I am not a fan of those... call it paranoia ;-)
[01:12] <smw> jrib: I have other problems too such as the computer not shutting down, but I believe that was caused by the fglrx driver
[01:12] <jrib> smw: I've done one fresh install (by choice) since 4.10 on this machine :)
[01:12] <bubba99> kunji  - yes its the middle blue box of the 3 at the top of the page u just posted
[01:12] <smw> jrib: the computer doesn't shut down, it freezes and I need to do a hard shutoff...
[01:12] <smw> jrib: (again, looks like the fglrx driver which steam wanted me to install is to blame)
[01:12] <SaidKLE> Q: I have a correct C++ program compiling in ubuntu 64 bit with g++ v. 4.7.2, but I am having memory allocation issues. It grabs half of the chunk taken up by one array and sticks it in another. If this possibly caused by Ubuntu?
[01:13] <kunji> bubba99: The Download for link?
[01:13] <Crazy_Spai_> I have a question: I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, My brightness setting for my LCD seems bugged. If it is not at the lowest setting the backlight flickers from high to low and the entire computer halts until you can manage to set it back to 0 or restart.
[01:13] <smw> jrib: I am right now trying to figure out what the hell I want to use. I hate unity and gnome-shell is causing my computer's fan to make noise when I am not at my computer
[01:14] <smw> jrib: xubuntu is looking like an idea
[01:14] <bubba99> kunji  yes on the link u just posted its the middle blue box that says download (for linux)
[01:14] <kunji> bubba99: You download UNetbootin for whatever system you're running UNetbootin on (the system you're using to make the usb).
[01:15] <kunji> bubba99: So, whatever OS you're on right now
[01:15] <bubba99> kunji  ok i see. well that is windows
[01:15] <kunji> bubba99: Ah, ok, so download the windows one, start the executable and you should be at that first screen shot they show.
[01:16] <bubba99> kunji  you mean execute on this laptop im writing on?
[01:16] <smw> jrib: anyways, I am going to try the minimal cd, want me to ping you with the results?
[01:17] <kunji> bubba99: yep
[01:17] <jrib> smw: I'll be in and out, sure
[01:17] <DavisPond> How would one remove the Grub program
[01:17] <smw> jrib: adios
[01:17] <kunji> bubba99: I assume that you've downloaded a .iso file for the version of Ubuntu you're making a livecd of right?  So pick the Diskimage option, leave ISO on that pull down menu, then click the ... and find the .iso in your filesystem
[01:17] <smw> DavisPond: why do you wish to remove grub?
[01:18] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I use RTL language in bash shell?
[01:19] <DavisPond> I tried to restore Windows 7, it removed Windows 7 but  did not reinstall it. I'm thinking the Grub is the problem.
[01:20] <smw> DavisPond: ok, be more specific, what did you do? What is the current status of the computer.
[01:20] <bubba99> kunji yes i have the iso version of ubuntu 12.04 and then i unetbootin it using windows option and saved it on the usb
[01:20] <kunji> bubba99: Once you're there, make sure it's writing to your usb drive and not some other drive, because it will erase everything currently on the drive.  Then press ok and it should create the livecd on the usb drive
[01:20] <smw> jrib: damn it, this is why I can't come in here, I get stuck helping :-P
[01:20] <kunji> bubba99: Ok, how you were doing it and not working?   Now the computer will  only come up in Ubuntu. If the windows option is picked it kicks over to Ubuntu.
[01:21] <smw> DavisPond: you had windows 7, you installed ubuntu, then ubuntu did not show up in the boot menu?
[01:21] <kunji> bubba99: Sorry, I mean, is this what was not working before
[01:21] <smw> DavisPond: ok
[01:21] <DavisPond> No Ubuntu was successfully installed.
[01:22] <smw> DavisPond: can you pastebin the output of sudo update-grub2 ?
[01:22] <bubba99> kunji  no thats how i always done it . but originally i was saving the .iso ubunto version file to the usb stick too and i thought that was affecting the data read when i put it in the notebook
[01:22] <DavisPond> No I'm not that good.
[01:23] <smw> DavisPond: open a terminal, type sudo update-grub2[enter] and then copy and paste the output to fpaste.org
[01:23] <bubba99> kunji  and when i tried the unetbootin (for linux) version i copied it over the top of the windows version !!! i didnt think to delete the original first. so maybe that could have affected it
[01:23] <smw> DavisPond: then give me a link to the paste
[01:24] <bubba99> kunji  so to open the usb on this laptop which file do i need to open on the usb folder?
[01:24] <kunji> bubba99: Hmm, ah, I see what you mean.  Actually having that there probably didn't make any difference, I tend to use a usb as both livecd and for moving files around.
[01:24] <smw> DavisPond: also, pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[01:25] <kunji> bubba99: ?huh, what do you mean, to boot from the usb?
[01:26] <xxx> How can I stop apache2 and cups from starting on boot?
[01:26] <bubba99> kunji  you said i should try the livecd on this laptop to see if it is loaded correctly. would i just select autorun on the usb stick folder?
[01:27] <ubuntu-tester> xxx with chkconfig for ex.
[01:28] <kunji> bubba99: Oh, no, you would try booting this laptop from the usb and see if you can get to a livecd environment
[01:29] <smw> DavisPond: still here?
[01:29] <xxx> ubuntu-tester, I tried to use the option --set apache2 off - but it did not work..
[01:29] <bubba99> kunji  is that a bad idea??
[01:31] <kunji> bubba99: Nope, not a bad idea at all.  The worst that can happen is that it doesn't boot from the usb, in which case it will just boot your Windows normally.  Otherwise it will load a menu, choose the livecd option instead of the install one.    No harm done.
[01:31] <Botanic> I am trying to add a ppa to my system however I am getting an error http://codepad.org/Cbf35Np6
[01:32] <Botanic> system is new install of ubuntu 12.04
[01:32] <kunji> bubba99: Double check that the bios give the usb boot priority over the HD boot of course, otherwise you'll just keep ending up with Windows booting.
[01:33] <SaidKLE> Does ubuntu 64 bit 12.10 have memory allocation bugs in the g++ compiler? I can't get valid c++ code to work on my machine.
[01:33] <ubuntu-tester> xxx: try update-rc.d
[01:33] <bubba99> kunji  just worries me that this is my work laptop. i dont own it. and i dont have admin rights. not sure if it will let me in the bios?
[01:34] <kunji> SaidKLE: I doubt it, pastebin your code and I'll take a quick look, those kinds of errors are usually the coders, as in, like 99.99% of the time.
[01:34] <quimoniz> bubba99 bios is separate form operating system, it starts before any kind of operating system, just try?
[01:35] <kunji> bubba99: If the BIOS is password protected, then you won't be able to change it to boot from usb first, but it's easy to check, you just try it and find out, no harm done if it doesn't work.
[01:35] <histo> SaidKLE: have you searched launchpad
[01:35] <kunji> bubba99: Bothering with password protecting the BIOS is pretty rare in my experience though.
[01:36] <brayan> hola?
[01:36] <kostkon> !es | brayan
[01:37] <comps_> :/
[01:37] <kunji> histo: That's a good place to check for bugs, but I see people say that so often, and not once has it been a compiler error in my experience, it has actually always turned out to not be valid C++.
[01:37] <comps_> grub wont boot my windows
[01:38] <histo> !grub2 | comps
[01:38] <comps_> no?
[01:38] <comps_> i lost it by installing ubuntu,
[01:38] <histo> comps_: yes please refer to the second link
[01:38] <histo> comps_: for troubleshooting and information.
[01:38] <comps_> it just cycles grub when i tick my windows 7
[01:39] <g0bl1n> After upgrading to 12.04, can't seem to print to a Samsung laser printer via IPP. Cups is installed and seems to work, but nothing prints. Any hint ?
[01:39] <histo> comps_: did you manually partitoin yoru disk or let the installer do it?
[01:39] <comps_> from windows i skrinked 60gbs then let it do its thing.
[01:40] <comps_> it took the 6gb part, and extended it
[01:40] <comps_> 60*
[01:40] <histo> comps_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[01:40] <quimoniz> When my ubuntu goes into screen-saver mode, as in, the screen turns black after 10 minutes without input, the CPU is being used 100% by compiz - is it normal that compiz eats my cpu while my pc is supposed to wait for me to return?
[01:40] <kunji> comps: Check out those links, and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 then let us know if you're still having trouble.  That documentation most likely has the answer unless you wrote over windows by accident, but that should be fine unless gparted complained about something.
[01:41] <qualia> After installing bsd into another partition, now ubuntu doesn't boot as well. (EFI)
[01:41] <comps_> i tried boot-repair, same results
[01:41] <folorn> hmm
[01:42] <comps_> :/
[01:42] <qualia> hey do u have the same problem perhaps ? :)
[01:42] <comps_> efi?
[01:42] <comps_> ring any bells?
[01:43] <qualia> yeah, it's these new ones that ship with the new win8 protection stuff
[01:43] <qualia> giving me a headache
[01:43] <kunji> comps_: boot-repair isn't that great, you should probably reinstall grub, and if that doesn't work then add windows to the menus manually.
[01:43] <comps_> walk me thru? please
[01:44] <kunji> comps_: That documentation does a really good job, I learned everything I know about GRUB2 from it and it alone, but I'll be happy to help if you have more particular questions.
[01:45] <comps_> i am medicated stoned, please:/
[01:45] <kunji> EFI has actually not been an issue for me, if it's not working for you, then shouldn't turning off the boot protection in the BIOS really make it not an issue?
[01:45] <qualia> i think there are new issues with the newest ones
[01:46] <comps_> z77 mpower
[01:46] <histo> !uefi | qualia
[01:46] <comps_> i have uefi..
[01:46] <qualia> yeah i have the same thing i did my research, i installed GRUB2 on it's own with bsd only
[01:46] <comps_> bsd?
[01:46] <comps_> sorry
[01:47] <quimoniz> oh, the compiz bug is related to fglrx proprietary driver... lucky I got google skillz
[01:47] <qualia> i installed it with ubuntu, knowing that ubuntu has UEFI solution and it works, but they don't dual boot. I added a boot menu on my OWN but it didn't work, i did boot-repair it didn't work
[01:47] <kunji> Turn off the boot protection in the UEFI
[01:47] <comps_> my windows 7 shows in grub, just when i click it, back to grub.
[01:47] <qualia> plus, i still don't understand how can a new os installed in a new partition, destroy the whole thing and not even ubuntu boots up now
[01:49] <comps_> not sure but i think i will need my uuid:/
[01:49] <kunji> Most be some manufacturers really botching things then
[01:49] <comps_> just cant think of why
[01:49] <DavisPond> Well this is not too good. It lets me into Ubuntu, takes my pass word, the mouse works for a few seconds then it locks up. CTRL ALT T does not return a terminal window at that point.
[01:50] <DavisPond> Tried reboot several times to no avail.
[01:50] <kunji> comps_: You can get the uuid for a partition by running blkid /dev/sdax x being the partition number and a being the driver letter, as you see from sudo fdisk -l
[01:50] <histo> DavisPond: can you ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a console?
[01:50] <DavisPond> No joy.
[01:50] <kunji> I'm using a UEFI motherboard right now http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157339
[01:50] <kunji> Hasn't given me any problems at all
[01:51] <comps_> kunji, so i am going in my uefi to turn off boot protection?
[01:52] <DavisPond> Maybe I have a hardware problem?
[01:52] <kunji> comps_: That's the recommended way to get it booting if it doesn't want to cooperate, of course mine has cooperated nicely, so I don't have personal experience with it's success rate.
[01:52] <comps_> kunji, i will try, hope for best.
[01:52] <histo> DavisPond: did you check the iso you downloaded for errors?  Also have you check the burned cd or usb for errors?
[01:53] <jjgalvez__> I've written a python script that loads an XML file relative to the python script. now I've make a soft link to the bin loader, and when I run the script from the link the path is all wrong. So how do I get the path of the python script, not the link?
[01:53] <smw> jrib, just to let you know, the debian installer found it
[01:53] <histo> !ot | jjgalvez__
[01:53] <histo> jjgalvez__: Maybe try a python channel
[01:53] <DavisPond> No. That reminds me I shall try the new boot USB I made
[01:54] <bubba99> kunji  r you here ?
[01:54] <kunji> bubba99: yep
[01:54] <g0bl1n> On cups error log I get a "Unknown directive SystemGroup on line 3 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf"
[01:54] <qualia> Ok I have an idea, it's possible to install GRUB 2 from the Ubuntu 12.10 LiveUSB terminal right ?
[01:54] <kunji> qualia: yep
[01:54] <bubba99> kunji   ok the problem is defo the usb stick
[01:55] <kunji> qualia: I believe it involves chrooting and then installing like on a working install
[01:55] <qualia> kunji, without installing any OSes though
[01:55] <bubba99> kunji  i changed bios to boot from usb   and tried 3 times - nothing it just goes straight to windows load
[01:55] <ubuntu-tester> Just updated to 3.5.0-22 kernel. intel video driver failed to initialize. found in Xorg.0.log: "open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory". how do i trouble shoot this?
[01:55] <kunji> qualia: yeah, you just install GRUB2
[01:55] <qualia> ok i understand
[01:55] <qualia> kunji, thank you, have a lovely day
[01:56] <kunji> bubba99: Hmm, well, I guess that's good and bad, bad that it doesn't work, but it sounds better for the computer.
[01:57] <Guest86187> wassup peoples
[01:57] <comps_> no boot protection..
[01:58] <comps_> just bss options
[01:58] <comps_> and the windows 8 feature is off
[01:58] <comps_> :?
[01:59] <comps_> :/
[01:59] <DavisPond> Using Grub ver 1.99
[01:59] <smw> hi DavisPond
[02:00] <comps_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550765/
[02:00] <smw> DavisPond, did you ever pastebin those things for me?
[02:00] <bubba99> kunji  yeah do you think i should try the linux download version again?
[02:00] <DavisPond> I cannot get the Eee netbook to boot up now.
[02:00] <kunji> bubba99: Not unless you've got another linux machine to try doing it from
[02:00] <smw> DavisPond, nothing boots?
[02:01] <comps_> kunji, are you there? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550765/
[02:01] <DavisPond> Well it boots, goes into Ubuntu when I select it in Grub 1.99 and then lets me log in to my user account. Then it freezes up.
[02:01] <kunji> comps_: yeah, I'm looking at it right now
[02:02] <smw> DavisPond, :-\
[02:02] <bubba99> kunji no i havent. so you sure i need the windows download?
[02:02] <kunji> bubba99: yep
[02:04] <DavisPond> The netbook was booting up before and letting me on.
[02:04] <bubba99> kunji  ok well its getting very late here in uk. im going to give up for tonight. thanks for your help and if and when i sort it I will try and let you know. thanks again
[02:04] <kunji> comps_: What happens when the boot fails, is it a blank black screen, or does it give you an error message, or what?
[02:04] <comps_> nope
[02:04] <kunji> bubba99: No problem, I hope you get it working.
[02:05] <comps_> just flashes to grub again
[02:06] <comps_> no errors, it goes black for a second and back to grub (10 seconds to boot ubuntu etc)
[02:06] <kunji> comps_: oh, hmm, I remember that happening before, I don't remember what the problem was though T.T
[02:06] <comps_> ):
[02:06] <bubba99> kunji  i hope so too. i dont really want to have to send it back for repair but if i have to I will. im sure if the worse comes to worst then they will just wipe it and reinstall. i dont have any files/folders on it yet anyway
[02:07] <comps_> i could repair mbr
[02:07] <comps_> bubba
[02:07] <comps_> just run windows repair
[02:07] <folorn> does anyone know  what the name of  skype would  for linux?
[02:07] <comps_> and ovride boot manager
[02:07] <comps_> cause i am about too:/
[02:08] <bubba99> comps  whats that you say?
[02:08] <comps_> bootsect.exe
[02:08] <comps_> one sec
[02:08] <folorn> been trying to find a skype client but can't remeber the name of it.
[02:08] <kunji> comps_: You could try that, bubba99's situation is a bit different than yours though, he never had Windows on there, and is trying to get Ubuntu to boot.
[02:09] <comps_> oh
[02:09] <comps_> ubuntu fail to boot?
[02:10] <comps_> try adding --no ahci?
[02:10] <kunji> comps_: Hmm, I'm curious if maybe you need special firmware?  I just notice the section on line 299 of what you posted that is empty.
[02:10] <comps_> just long time since i play on linux
[02:11] <bubba99> ok guys goodnite
[02:11] <bubba99> and thanks again for your assistance
[02:11] <comps_> well i am usining a z77 mpower board
[02:11] <comps_> msi
[02:11] <comps_> msi z77 mpower
[02:12] <bubba99> i am learning more about this OS all the time
[02:12] <kunji> comps_: Yeah, I tried looking it up quickly but I didn't see anything relating to it in particular with ubuntu
[02:12] <comps_> is there a clean windows boot entry?
[02:12] <kunji> bubba99: Yep keep at it!
[02:13] <comps_> wait --no ahci work?
[02:13] <kunji> comps_: not sure, I think he was giving up for the night
[02:13] <smw> jrib, I officially hate the minimal cd. Too damn long to download everything!
[02:14] <kunji> Well, I need to go, family is waiting for me, I'll probably be back in the morning.
[02:14] <jrib> smw: but the cd itself was fast :)
[02:14] <comps_> so what can i do?
[02:14] <comps_> am i going be able use grub?
[02:14] <smw> jrib, where do you vote for them creating alternate cds again?
[02:14] <smw> jrib, apparently, they are still useful!
[02:15] <g073nks> I'm having issues installing 12.x onto my asus n90 laptop
[02:15] <bubba99> comp what is ahci ?
[02:15] <comps_> kunji, i want back in windows):
[02:15] <g073nks> i can only get it to work if i lock the wireless in bios
[02:15] <comps_> i remember my old dell 4600
[02:15] <comps_> using linux
[02:15] <comps_> cant use ahci
[02:16] <comps_> had to add the no ahci option
[02:16] <comps_> to make it boot
[02:16] <ubuntu-tester> Just updated to 3.5.0-22 kernel. intel video driver failed to initialize. found in Xorg.0.log: "open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory". how do i troubleshoot this?
[02:16] <smw> jrib, it takes more than twice as long to download the packages through the minimal cd than to download the entire install cd!
[02:16] <jrib> smw: I don't remember if it lets you choose a local mirror
[02:16] <jrib> (but that would help)
[02:17] <texla> Running Ubuntu-12.04.1 from usb flash drive...When it boots I get a panel "out of range Cannot display video mode  change computer input to 1600x1200 @ 60 mhz..How to set this up ??
[02:17] <smw> jrib, the only mirror option was us.archive.ubuntu.com (or something along those lines)
[02:17] <g073nks> Can anyone help?
[02:17] <jrib> smw: you chose ubuntu-desktop at install time?
[02:18] <smw> jrib, yep, stupid mistake
[02:18] <comps_> now i remember bubba
[02:18] <comps_> try acpi=off
[02:18] <smw> jrib, should have installed the bare minimum and then used my ubuntu live cd
[02:18] <smw> jrib, the ubuntu live cd contains all the packages, right?
[02:18] <smw> jrib, or I guess that was only the alternate cd
[02:19] <jrib> smw: you can't use the live cd in that way, right.
[02:19] <smw> jrib, ok, why the hell did they remove the alternate cd.
[02:19] <ubuntu-tester> g073nks: you can't install or can't boot with wireless on?
[02:19]  * smw gets more and more annoyed with ubuntu with each new release
[02:20] <comps_> kunji, am i goiung to have to restore my mbr?
[02:20] <g073nks> Ubuntu-tester: neither
[02:20] <smw> jrib, truthfully, I sometimes wonder why I still use it... no offense...
[02:20] <bubba99> comps  is this in ubuntu terminal? because i am working in the black screen  - grub shell kunji called it or root shell
[02:20] <g073nks> I turn wireless off to install or boot, but its my primary internet connection
[02:21] <ubuntu-tester> g073nks: can you pastebin syslog from failed boot?
[02:21] <comps_> bubba, u can edit boot line right?
[02:21] <comps_> Add noacpi, or whichever kernel option you want, anywhere in the line.
[02:22] <g073nks> No, only other internet device is my hp touchpad
[02:22] <comps_> just add noacpi
[02:23] <g073nks> I found online to disable add on devices, but there is no option in bios
[02:23] <ubuntu-tester> g073nks: copy to usb drive
[02:25] <comps_> i want back in my windows:/
[02:25] <g073nks> How to save syslog?
[02:26] <g073nks> Sorry for grammar, typing on this sucks
[02:26] <ubuntu-tester> g073nks: cp /var/log/syslog /media/<your drive>
[02:27] <bubba99> comps add this in the bios ? or grub shell?
[02:28] <g073nks> But i cannot boot... it justhangs
[02:28] <usr13> g073nks: What's on the screen?
[02:28] <comps_> grub shell
[02:28] <usr13> g073nks: (Where does it hang?)
[02:28] <comps_> bubba99 u dont have a boot line saved?
[02:29] <g073nks> Moment finishing installing windows then ill go back into install
[02:29] <bubba99> comps i dont have anything yet. i only been on the notebook twice. got it this week
[02:30] <ubuntu-tester> g073nks: try also Ctrl+Alt+F1
[02:31] <comps_> ok,
[02:31] <comps_> this is starting to bug me..
[02:31] <texla> Running Ubuntu-12.04.1 from usb flash drive...When it boots I get a panel "out of range Cannot display video mode  change computer input to 1600x1200 @ 60 mhz..How to set this up ??
[02:31] <comps_> i just want grub to boot my windows sda1:/
[02:31] <comps_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550807/
[02:32] <usr13> texla: What is your video card?
[02:32] <g073nks> Ok freezes on "registering the dns_resolver key type
[02:33] <g073nks> Registered taskstats version 1"
[02:34] <g073nks> Freezes somewhere else when i tried 12.10, but at about same timestamp
[02:34] <texla> usr nvidia ge 7900gs
[02:34] <usr13> g073nks: After fresh 12.04 install?
[02:34] <shortstraw8> How do I check to see if my ssh agent is working the command BB is giving is not working
[02:34] <comps_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550807/ help):
[02:34] <g073nks> Thats booting from usb flash drive
[02:34] <g073nks> Also if i try to install
[02:34] <usr13> g073nks: Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:35] <g073nks> Yes
[02:35] <g073nks> Currently trying 12.04
[02:35] <usr13> g073nks: So the install media hangs.  Right?
[02:36] <g073nks> Once i install (with wifi off) it just freezes on black screen
[02:36] <bubba99> comps thanks for the page post i took a note of the reference. ok i really gotta go now. see you and thanks again
[02:36] <g073nks> If i tur wifi back on in bios
[02:36] <texla> usr13, Nvidia ge 7900 gs with nouvesa driver
[02:37] <ubuntu-tester> shortstraw8: what is not working, exactly?
[02:38] <usr13> texla: xrandr
[02:38] <blaizco> Hi there. Does anyone know how to fix wifi problem after updating ubuntu kernel to 3.5.0-22?
[02:38] <g073nks> Any ideas? Im stumped...
[02:38] <ubuntu-tester> g073nks: try Ctrl+Alt+F1 when it freeses
[02:38] <g073nks> Nothing happens
[02:38] <ubuntu-tester> *freezes
[02:39] <usr13> texla: xrandr with no arguments will show you usable screen sizes, pick one and do  xrandr -s 800x600 (where 800x600 is what you think you might want).
[02:39] <g073nks> It only responds to hard reboot
[02:39] <ubuntu-tester> g073nks: then you should extract logs and show us
[02:39] <neil098> any issue on video play on ubuntu 12.04? issues like pixelations?
[02:39] <shortstraw8> ubuntu-tester, for some reason I can not clone my repos due to my ssh key.
[02:40] <blaizco> Anyone can help?
[02:40] <g073nks> I cannot even boot or interact with it...
[02:40] <usr13> g073nks: What do you mean "black screen"?  Anything at all on this "black screen"?
[02:40] <texla> usr13, xrandr show current display 160x1200 @60
[02:40] <comps_> kunji, ?
[02:40] <texla> 1600^^
[02:41] <g073nks> No usr13, its back lit, so screen is working... but it's just black
[02:41] <ubuntu-tester> g073nks: you said you can with wireless locked off
[02:41] <usr13> texla: So it shows that you are at:  1600x1200 now?  Well, I don't know what monitor you have, but you do, so pick another one and try it out.
[02:41] <ronnoc> Hey all. Opened a bug report on BKO about constant K3b crashing and got a response about Ubuntu using an antiquated version of FFMpeg. I would post elsewhere but since the Devs seem to think that this might be the reason for the crash, I'm posting here as well.
[02:41] <g073nks> Ok... but then no internet...  i will see
[02:41] <ronnoc> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312317
[02:41] <ubuntu-tester> shortstraw8: and without agent, can you?
[02:41] <usr13> g073nks: So this is a laptop?
[02:42] <usr13> !nomodeset | g073nks
[02:42] <comps_> anyone please help me get grub to boot my windows?:/
[02:42] <texla> usr13, The monitor set at 1600x1200 4.3 also the display in 12.04 is 1600x1200 4.3
[02:42] <usr13> comps_: Fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04?
[02:42] <comps_> yup
[02:43] <comps_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550807/
[02:43] <comps_> wont boot my sda1 rawr0:
[02:43] <usr13> texla: Did you try another one?
[02:43] <comps_> ):
[02:43] <g073nks> Usr13, but it boots fine with wifi off, not sure how graphics card would be cause
[02:43] <comps_> just flashes to grub again, when i pick windows 7
[02:44] <usr13> comps_: Did it ever boot to Win7 after the install?
[02:44] <comps_> nope
[02:45] <neil098> hi, are there any issues with video freezing after updating ubuntu 12.04
[02:45] <texla> usr13, It boot okay after a time out also works with other ubuntu just this one from usb flash drive
[02:46] <comps_> from windows i shrink partition 60gbs
[02:46] <comps_> then i ran my usb ubuntu live
[02:46] <comps_> installed aside by windows, it took the 60gbs extended it, ext4 54gbs? and a 7gb swap.
[02:47] <comps_> ):
[02:48] <usr13> g073nks: Oh, I didn't realize that it boots ok with wifi off.  Well, that's different.
[02:48] <usr13> g073nks: So, what is your wifi card?  What does lspci say about it?
[02:49] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: does windows menu entry appears on boot?
[02:49] <comps_> yup
[02:49] <usr13> comps_: So you resized sda1 and shrunk it by 60G ?
[02:49] <sherorox> hello everyone. I just recently updated to 12.04 LTS.  Can someone help me reset visual effects to stock ubuntu 12.04
[02:49] <comps_> and then ran the ubuntu live, install yea
[02:49] <usr13> comps_: And that is all you did to prepair for the install?
[02:50] <g073nks> Argh... looked up card a min ago... give me a sec usr13
[02:50] <comps_> yea
[02:50] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: and what happens when you select it?
[02:50] <comps_> it did the ext/swap.
[02:50] <comps_> grub
[02:50] <comps_> cycle
[02:50] <comps_> just puts me back in grub
[02:50] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550807/
[02:50] <g073nks> atheros AR9285
[02:50] <comps_> blacks out for a second, and back in grub
[02:51] <comps_> (ubuntu highlighted)
[02:51] <ubuntu-tester> usr13: i've seen it. looks ok
[02:51] <g073nks> I have to disable it in io security in bios to boot usr13
[02:51] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: Yea, I dono either.....
[02:52] <meshuggah> is it safe to upgrate from 10.10 to the latest version of ubuntu?
[02:52] <meshuggah> if it is safe, can someone point me a FAQ about it?
[02:53] <sherorox> to add to my previous post if anyone saw it, the windows move really weird.
[02:53] <comps_> so?
[02:53] <ubuntu-tester> !upgrade | meshuggah
[02:54] <sherorox> hey ubottu tryna help a brotha out?
[02:54] <jakepiano> hi all, i have a question. i was able to successfully install ubuntu alongside win8 but i'm still not able to have an option to boot into it. it just boots straight into windows. i've heard things you can do like easyBCD or something. any ideas?
[02:54] <usr13> comps_: I'd boot to Ubuntu and get it fully updated and restore grub.
[02:55] <comps_> i'm on ubuntu..
[02:55] <comps_> i want want back in windows..
[02:55] <usr13> comps_: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[02:55] <comps_> its there..
[02:55] <comps_> wont boot.
[02:55] <comps_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550807/
[02:55] <sherorox> jakepiano: im no expert at anything but I think that if you go into windows and go into your settings, there is a way to setup boot menu with os's
[02:56] <g073nks> Usr13, i really want to go back to Ubuntu... but from what i found... asus laptops don't like Ubuntu
[02:56] <sherorox> jakepiano: plus you can do an advanced reboot
[02:56] <usr13> comps_: Here's some additional info about grub:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[02:56] <comps_> how the hell can i boot windows if grub wants to play stupid, and just acts like windows is a grub loader..
[02:56] <ubuntu-tester> usr13: any chance you can help with my problem (above)?
[02:56] <usr13> comps_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:57] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: Let me look.
[02:57] <jakepiano> sherorox do you know what settings those are under?
[02:58] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: How far back?  (time...)
[02:58] <jakepiano> usr13 did you see my question?
[02:58] <comps_> this update goona take for ever on my neighbors wifi, while my business class cant be used, no linux driver for killer 2100...
[02:58] <icebird> misterious kernel what is the  problem out of dayli disadventages
[02:58] <comps_> y
[02:58] <ubuntu-tester> Just updated to 3.5.0-22 kernel. intel video driver failed to initialize. found in Xorg.0.log: "open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory". how do i troubleshoot this?
[02:59] <icebird> ;)
[02:59] <usr13> comps_: Get a neighbor with faster internet.
[02:59] <usr13> jakepiano: No, sorry...
[02:59] <KI4RO> lol @ usr13
[02:59] <comps_> i have my own business class
[02:59] <jakepiano> usr13 i have a question. i was able to successfully install ubuntu alongside win8 but i'm still not able to have an option to boot into it. it just boots straight into windows. i've heard things you can do like easyBCD or something. any ideas?
[02:59] <comps_> just my is wired modem:/
[02:59] <mehwork> is there a way to make it so i can see ALL my windows when i do alt+tab? I hate having to Alt+` through a grouping of windows to see them all
[02:59] <comps_> and my nic no linux driver..
[02:59] <sherorox> jakepiano: press the windows key + I
[03:00] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: What is your video card?
[03:00] <jakepiano> sherorox ...and?
[03:00] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: maybe it's true. boot info says you have grub loader on sda1, where win bootloader previously was, i suppose
[03:00] <icebird> why should u install ubuntu near win 8?
[03:01] <sherorox> jakepiano: go to general
[03:01] <usr13> jakepiano: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[03:01] <comps_> sooo?
[03:01] <comps_> how can i fix it...
[03:01] <comps_> i want back in windows:/
[03:01] <Harper-ftw> hey
[03:01] <Dr_willis> mehwork,  for unity compiz has a lot of settings and alternatives for the alt-tab function.  you can even have differnt metnods on super-tab if you wanted
[03:01] <ubuntu-tester> usr13: intel hd graphics (with i5)
[03:01] <ubuntu-tester> usr13: GMA2000 or so
[03:01] <icebird> install ubuntu and forget about win
[03:01] <sherorox> jakepiano: then youll see advanced startup. then click restart now. youll then see an option that says "choose a different operating system". Im not 100% if it will see ubuntu. never tried it.
[03:01] <usr13> jakepiano: You need to write grub boot loader to the primary drive, (probably sda)
[03:02] <Harper-ftw> where would one purchased a laptop preloaded with linux?
[03:02] <comps_> MY KILLER 2100 NO LINUX DRIVER :/
[03:02] <jakepiano> sherorox ok
[03:02] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #Any error?
[03:02] <jakepiano> and usr13 will the boot repair do that for me?
[03:02] <usr13> jakepiano: yes
[03:02] <sherorox> jakepaino: come back and tell me ur results
[03:03] <jakepiano> ok awesome thanks guys. i'll be back soon i'm sure
[03:03] <usr13> jakepiano: See section:  "Using the Ubuntu CD"  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[03:03] <sherorox> hey guys is anyone good with Unity/compiz?  I will look that up.   If so do updates and we'll go from there.
[03:07] <g073nks> No, no access atm
[03:07] <usr13> comps_: Whatch your language.
[03:08] <icebird> it's a shame
[03:08] <comps_> excuse me.... i want my windows,
[03:08] <Dr_willis> comps_,  i have no idea what your original problem is.
[03:08] <usr13> comps_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  And then reinstall grub.
[03:08] <comps_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550807/
[03:09] <usr13> Dr_willis: He shrunk sda1 by 60G, installed Ubuntu and now Win7 won't boot.
[03:09] <usr13> Dr_willis: ... grub fails...
[03:09] <comps_> i want my windows now:/
[03:09] <IdleOne> comps_: how is grub failing?
[03:09] <g073nks> Usr13, let me go make some cat5 cable, ill be back in a little while
[03:10] <comps_> pick windows 7, loads grub again
[03:10] <usr13> comps_: Sorry.  But it may be that it's hosed.  May need to re-install Win7.  Dono for sure, but prolly....
[03:10] <stevo_> now lets calm down
[03:10] <mlt-> It looks like in 13.04 external media is mounted under /media/<username>/<label> . How can I return it back to /media/<label> ? Is it about gvfs? GConf or where even to look?
[03:10] <comps_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550807/
[03:10] <comps_> grub is crap..
[03:11] <comps_> did boot-repair
[03:11] <kyo> hey
[03:11] <comps_> no success
[03:11] <usr13> comps_: But you still have a working computer.  You have documents you need to access?  Just use libreoffice.
[03:11] <comps_> not ok..
[03:11] <comps_> noo
[03:11] <usr13> comps_: not ok?    Just use ubuntu.
[03:12] <comps_> heh...
[03:12] <comps_> LOL
[03:13] <comps_> dowlown 6gb on a slow wifi. ur joking
[03:13] <kyo> ubuntu is a nice one lol
[03:13] <comps_> and get wine to workk,, no way..
[03:13] <ubuntu-tester> usr13: failed boot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550849/. successful boot (prev. kernel): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550850/. see line 151
[03:13] <mehwork> oh yay it's so much better with alt+tab unity version disabled :D
[03:13] <usr13> comps_: Well, I don't know about world of warcraft, sorry.
[03:13] <icebird> its hard to know
[03:14] <comps_> soo,,, what can i do...
[03:14] <stevo_> hard to not know lol ;P
[03:14] <comps_> i need grub to boot windows.
[03:14] <usr13> comps_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[03:14] <comps_> http://www.killergaming.com/forums/showthread.php?4514-Killer-2100-Drivers-for-Ubuntu-11.04
[03:14] <comps_> why i am not usuing ubuntu
[03:14] <comps_> i own this device
[03:14] <comps_> ok?
[03:15] <icebird> u own youself
[03:15] <comps_> .....
[03:15] <kyo> yes 0 0
[03:15] <Dr_willis> you may need to use a windows repair disk or tool to reinstall the windows bootloader/repair windows
[03:15] <comps_> not funny
[03:15] <Dr_willis> and worry about grub later
[03:15] <kyo> it's funny!
[03:15] <comps_> shut up..
[03:15] <machicola> does anyone know the purpose of this repository and/or if it is vital : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lorenzo-carbonell/atareao/ubuntu quantal main
[03:16] <machicola> it seems to be messin with my update process
[03:16] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: from what i see, you somehow installed grub on the windows partition (sda1), overwriting windows loader. you need to repair it, then install grub on linux partition (sda5)
[03:16] <comps_> excuse you..
[03:17] <comps_> Avbused powered
[03:17] <Dr_willis> normally grub would be on sda, not sda1
[03:17] <kyo> one disk has 4 sdaQAQ
[03:17] <kyo> s
[03:17] <kyo> q
[03:17] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: You could just boot the previous kernel for now.  Right?
[03:18] <comps_> i am here only to get grub to get windows bopoted
[03:18] <ubuntu-tester> Dr_willis: see his report; "Grub2 (v2.00) is installed in the boot sector of sda1"
[03:18] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: I guess that's what this is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550850/ Right?
[03:18] <ubuntu-tester> usr13: surely i did
[03:18] <ubuntu-tester> usr13: right
[03:18] <the_file> is grub2 the default in ubuntu?
[03:18] <g073nks> Usr13, i will be back to try again in bout 30 mins
[03:18] <comps_> guess so..
[03:19] <comps_> i left it all default
[03:19] <ubuntu-tester> the_file: yes
[03:19] <comps_> checked, installe aside by windows
[03:19] <comps_> watched it take the free 60gbs
[03:19] <the_file> ubuntu-tester: does it have any performance advantages for efi systems?
[03:19] <stevo_> anyone play an addicting linux native game they would like to share
[03:19] <the_file> stevo_: openra
[03:20] <the_file> bleh
[03:20] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: What is the new kernel?   good
[03:23] <IdleOne> comps_: you're poor attitude is what is preventing you from getting help.
[03:23] <IdleOne> your*
[03:23] <sbbb> aha
[03:23] <comps_> no its the mean jokes
[03:23] <comps_> i dont like,
[03:23] <Orkultus> anyone good with Nvidia Optimus errors?
[03:23] <comps_> rest my case
[03:24] <icebird> hahaha
[03:24] <sbbb> Nvidia driver is poor one
[03:24] <IdleOne> comps_: have you tried running sudo update-grub ?
[03:24] <stevo_> do a lot of people play warsow ?
[03:24] <Orkultus> sbbb: intel is worse
[03:24] <sbbb> warsow  0 0 like CS
[03:25] <Orkultus> stevo_: i play it from time to time
[03:25] <stevo_> counter strike ? i love that game , if it's anything like that i would be happy
[03:25] <sbbb> 0 0Yes
[03:25] <comps_> used to play css
[03:25] <dizzy> can any one help me with ubuntu
[03:25] <Orkultus> stevo_: you would have a better chance with Urban Terror
[03:25] <sbbb> ubuntu can't run CS QAQ
[03:26] <sbbb> Half - Life system
[03:26] <stevo_> sbbb: soon if they port the source engine
[03:26] <dizzy> i cant figure out how to get wow on it
[03:26] <sbbb> really?!
[03:26] <sbbb> wow
[03:26] <Orkultus> stevo_: source engine is already on Steam in linux
[03:26] <dizzy> ye world of warcraft
[03:26] <sbbb> L4d is a example 0 0
[03:27] <comps_> most steam games are on half life engine correct?
[03:27] <sbbb> L4D can run on linux
[03:27] <Orkultus> stevo_: i already play Team fortress 2 natively in Linux
[03:27] <stevo_> Orkultus: your right , what i meant was soon they will port more source game ;p
[03:27] <stevo_> games *
[03:27] <Orkultus> stevo_: Global Offensive will be on Linux soon
[03:27] <sbbb> kill windows lol
[03:27] <IdleOne> !ot
[03:27] <dizzy> i geuss no one knows how
[03:27] <stevo_> @Orkultus : how long do you think until global offensive ?
[03:27] <Orkultus> shush IdleOne
[03:27] <comps_> when they get my network card i will kill windows
[03:27] <Orkultus> stevo_ no idea
[03:28] <IdleOne> Orkultus: no, take the off topic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:28] <Orkultus> lawl
[03:28] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: From http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550850/ I see:
[03:29] <dizzy> i am new to ubuntu
[03:29] <dizzy> and know nothing
[03:30] <Bon-chan> hey, if i install libgl1-mesa-swx11 it will remove the libgl1 glx. Can i get problems with that?
[03:30] <Orkultus> dizzy: what exactly is wrong?
[03:30] <dizzy> i cant figure out how to get my game to work on ubuntu
[03:30] <dizzy> and am compleetly new to it
[03:31] <dizzy> ubuntu i meen
[03:31] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: From http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550849/ I see:   [    17.695] Build Operating System: Linux 3.2.0-26-generic i686 Ubuntu
[03:31] <comps_> tried the sudo grub-update
[03:31] <Orkultus> dizzy: what game are you trying to play?
[03:31] <comps_> same sesaults
[03:32] <dizzy> world of warcraft
[03:32] <usr13> From http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550850/ I see:   [    19.460] Build Operating System: Linux 3.2.0-26-generic i686 Ubuntu
[03:32] <dizzy> ive tried the youtube videos but none of them were of any help
[03:32] <ubuntu-tester> usr13: see next line
[03:33] <sbbb> 0 0 chinese don't allow to connect to google
[03:33] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: O sorry
[03:35] <Orkultus> dizzy i sent you a message
[03:36] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: please understand the cause of your problem. you have broke windows loader when installing ubuntu. compare your boot info report with mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550870/. very similar configuration, but grub is installed in proper place
[03:36] <Bon-chan> error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:37] <iamzim> comps_: you should also do sudo grub-install after that
[03:37] <ubuntu-tester> iamzim: won't help
[03:38] <comps_> ok
[03:38] <comps_> was in restroom,
[03:38] <russell_bt> join kohana
[03:38] <russell_bt> join #kohana
[03:38] <dizzy117> sorry acsadently closed out
[03:39] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: I say just use the previous kernel for now.
[03:39] <jakepiano> sooo, i'm back. and it didn't work
[03:39] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: Maybe file a bug report.
[03:39] <comps_> so what did grub do wrong?
[03:40] <usr13> !bug | ubuntu-tester
[03:40] <jakepiano> usr13 the program running on ubuntu didn't work
[03:40] <usr13> comps_: I don't grub did anything wrong.
[03:40] <comps_> so why wont it boot then?
[03:41] <dizzy117> can some one help me with getting wow on ubuntu
[03:41] <usr13> jakepiano: What didn't work?
[03:41] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: not grub, you somehow managed to install grub on /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sda
[03:41] <comps_> ok
[03:42] <comps_> so boot repair it to sda?
[03:42] <ubuntu-tester> !wow | dizzy117
[03:42] <jakepiano> usr13 the boot repair
[03:42] <jakepiano> it failed
[03:42] <usr13> jakepiano:  What error did it give?
[03:43] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: that's not enough. repair windows bootloader as well
[03:43] <usr13> jakepiano: You did:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update  ?
[03:44] <comps_> so run the mbr repair also?
[03:44] <usr13> jakepiano: And then:  sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair  ?
[03:44] <comps_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550899/
[03:44] <jakepiano> grub-pc purge cancelled
[03:44] <comps_> this is what i manage to have now
[03:44] <jakepiano> usr13 yes i did and then i ran the program and this was the error i got
[03:44] <jakepiano> grub-pc purge cancelled
[03:45] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: mbr first then
[03:45] <comps_> how?
[03:45] <comps_> can boot repair do it?
[03:46] <comps_> if i go in advanced?
[03:46] <usr13> jakepiano: What did you put in there for "Restore the MBR of: _____________?   (sda ?)
[03:46] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: now grub is in place but win loader is still missing
[03:46] <comps_> can boot repair fix it?
[03:46] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: you need windows dvd
[03:46] <comps_> if i do the mbr retore?
[03:47] <comps_> hmmmm
[03:47] <comps_> no dvd?
[03:47] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: ubuntu's boot repair doesn't contain any windows stuff
[03:48] <comps_> has mbr options?
[03:48] <jakepiano> i didn't do anything for that. all the program gave me was the recommended repair and it failed.
[03:48] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: if you have another windows machine working (same version) you can take in from there
[03:48] <ubuntu-tester> *it
[03:49] <usr13> jakepiano: You have to tell it what drive to install grub to, (which would be sda )
[03:49] <jakepiano> ok
[03:49] <comps_> no way in ubuntu
[03:49] <comps_> ?
[03:50] <usr13> jakepiano: And then you have to tell it which partition your Ubuntu install is on.  (you have to set both of those options.)
[03:50] <jakepiano> usr13 none of the advanced options were available in the program. i tried to go in and select them but it wouldn't allow me to.
[03:51] <usr13> jakepiano: It shows no options in the drop down menu?
[03:51] <jakepiano> just the one sda option
[03:51] <jakepiano> i couldn't do anything else with it
[03:51] <jakepiano> after googleing a bit i found this link
[03:51] <jakepiano> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[03:52] <kunji> jakepiano: The Ubuntu documentation is better
[03:52] <usr13> jakepiano: Your install is 12.04, Right?
[03:52] <kunji> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[03:52] <jakepiano> yes
[03:52] <abdostar> where can I download ubuntu iso with all the updates (till today)
[03:53] <jakepiano> and comps_ this link might help with restoring windows bootloader if that was your problem. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[03:53] <usr13> jakepiano: Forget that one.  Use the link I gave you.
[03:53] <jakepiano> i tried already it didnt work
[03:53] <kunji> abdostar: I don't know if there are nightly builds for stable...
[03:53] <usr13> jakepiano: You have to also tell it what partition your Ubuntu install is on.
[03:54] <ubuntu-tester> jakepiano: do you have "create bootinfo summary" option in boot-repair?
[03:54] <jakepiano> yes ubuntu-tester
[03:55] <usr13> jakepiano: Did you install 12.04 or 12.10?
[03:55] <ubuntu-tester> jakepiano: please do it and give us the link
[03:55] <jakepiano> alright
[03:55] <usr13> jakepiano: Yea, send the bootinfo summary and let's have a look.
[03:58] <comps_> found my dvd, cant repir):
[03:58] <comps_> says incompatible..
[03:59] <comps_> ):
[03:59] <abdostar> kunji: I figure it it out, I will just use zsync
[04:00] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: what is incompatible?
[04:00] <comps_> my windows 7 ulimate dvd
[04:01] <jakepiano_> usr13 ok so the os to boot by default gives me two options, either the ubuntu or the windows partition
[04:01] <jakepiano_> which one should i do
[04:02] <usr13> jakepiano_: Well, windows boots right?  It's Ubuntu that won't boot. Right?
[04:02] <jakepiano_> haha. right.
[04:02] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: did it offer you a choice of OS to repair (of 1)
[04:02] <usr13> jakepiano_: Choose Ubuntu
[04:03] <usr13> jakepiano_: Oh yea, as the default option, (the one at top), Yea choose Ubuntu.
[04:03] <jakepiano_> usr13 choose ubuntu? well thats what i already did. and also none of the other options are showing up for me
[04:03] <comps_> at the Install now window, clicked repair.
[04:03] <usr13> jakepiano: Send the bootinfo summary and let's have a look.
[04:04] <comps_> the bottom left cornern
[04:04] <usr13> jakepiano_: Can you paste the bootinfo summary?
[04:04] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: and then?
[04:04] <comps_> then said my version of windows is incompatitable
[04:04] <comps_> its was the dvd i used to installed
[04:04] <usr13> comps_: With ______________?
[04:05] <comps_> said try using a version supported..
[04:05] <comps_> my is ultimate 64 tho:/
[04:05] <usr13> comps_: Boot to Ubuntu and see if you can read the Win7 partition.
[04:05] <comps_> and same dvd:/
[04:05] <comps_> i am on ubuntu to u guys
[04:05] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: sad
[04:06] <usr13> comps_: Grub should boot it, (if it's still there and bootable.
[04:06] <comps_> mounted
[04:06] <comps_> all there
[04:06] <ubuntu-tester> usr13: grub can't boot win :)
[04:06] <usr13> comps_: But something may have happened to the Win7 partition and the data may be corrupt.
[04:06] <comps_> no data there
[04:07] <usr13> comps_: No data?
[04:07] <comps_> data is there..
[04:07] <jakepiano_> usr13 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550927/
[04:07] <comps_> i see all the folders
[04:07] <Sara> can someone walk with me through partion resizing process in ubuntu?
[04:07] <comps_> appdata,windows,users,etc
[04:08] <comps_> boot
[04:08] <Sara> can someone walk with me through partion resizing process in ubuntu?
[04:08] <comps_> bcd is there
[04:08] <Sara> i have an unlocated space on my drive
[04:08] <r0n1n> Sara, you can use gparted partition manager for partition resizing, it can be downloaded from the software center
[04:08] <Sara> want to merge it with my ubuntu drive
[04:09] <usr13> jakepiano_: For "OS to boot by default" choose  sda7 Ubuntu
[04:09] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[04:09] <Sara> do i loose my ubuntu data?
[04:09] <comps_> usr13 it looks all good in file check..
[04:09] <usr13> jakepiano_: Restore the MBR of:     sda
[04:09] <usr13> jakepiano_:  Partition booted by the MBR:  sda7 Ubuntu
[04:10] <r0n1n> Sara, no, you are only resizing the partition, not formating it
[04:10] <comps_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550938/
[04:10] <tjb1> Could anyone give me assistance in getting the address of a PCI parallel port?
[04:10] <ricardo_> hi
[04:10] <Sara> I press resize partition but it does not allow me to merge it with the 170 gb unlocated space .
[04:11] <Sara> it just lets me to merge ext4 with my swap space
[04:11] <ubuntu-tester> Sara: there is such possibility, little though. backup your data if you can
[04:11] <neil098> hi, ubuntu noob here, any issues with laggy video playback? i got a samsung n100 netbook over here
[04:11] <Sara> don't need backup not very crucial data just prefer not to loose it
[04:12] <ubuntu-tester> Sara: show your gparted screenshot
[04:12] <comps_> get the link usr13?
[04:12] <r0n1n> Sara, my bad. are you logged in to your pc? then you cannot resize your system partition withou unmounting it first
[04:12] <Sara> Im running ubuntu from usb
[04:12] <Sara> live usb
[04:14] <usr13> jakepiano_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:14] <Sara> http://www.mediafire.com/view/?viib7ymq2c3a8yw          my screenshot
[04:14] <jakepiano_> usr13 ok so it said the boot was successfully repaired and gave me this link http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550941/
[04:14] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: you can try to repair win boot record manually, with image from my PC, at your own risk(!)
[04:14] <r0n1n> Sara, try right click the partition and see if there is an unmount option available
[04:15] <usr13> jakepiano_: Ok. Looks good to me.
[04:15] <Sara> nope not available its gray
[04:15] <jakepiano_> usr13 k i'll reboot and check back
[04:16] <ubuntu-tester> Sara: it's not mounted
[04:16] <usr13> jakepiano_: Ok
[04:16] <r0n1n> Sara, is the /dev/sda6 you want to resize?
[04:16] <ubuntu-tester> Sara: select /dev/sda4 and try to move it
[04:16] <Sara> yes sd6
[04:17] <ubuntu-tester> comps_: if you want it, PM me
[04:17] <neil098> hi, ubuntu noob here, any issues with laggy video playback? i got a samsung n100 netbook over here
[04:17] <r0n1n> Sara, then all you have to do is select the /dev/sda6 partition then click the arrow button on the toolbar
[04:18] <ricardo_> i had a similar problem
[04:18] <ricardo_> like sara's problem
[04:18] <turtleJP> neil098 which processor is the Samsung using?
[04:19] <Sara> it says you cannot add a free space on the begining of sda4
[04:19] <ubuntu-tester> r0n1n: don't confuse her, she can't extend logical partition
[04:19] <Sara> it causes failiour to boot
[04:19] <neil098> @turtleJP Intel® Atom™ CPU N435 @ 1.33GHz
[04:19] <jakepiano> usr13 nope didn't work. booted straight into windows
[04:20] <usr13> jakepiano: wow.... I dono.
[04:20] <pregunton> i can to install ubuntu after to install windows
[04:20] <ubuntu-tester> Sara: when it says so?
[04:20] <jakepiano> usr13 yeah idk
[04:20] <jakepiano> its weird
[04:20] <jakepiano> i'm gonna try one other thing
[04:20] <turtleJP> video works well enough on my netbook AMD C-50 for most downloaded content 1080P excluded
[04:21] <turtleJP> I am using VLC for local and Chrome for internet playback
[04:21] <neil098> i got same issue with vlc
[04:21] <tjb1> Anyone here know how to find the address of a PCI parallel port card?
[04:22] <neil098> im thinking that it has to do with updates i did.
[04:22] <usr13> jakerive1: Did the grub screen come up at all?
[04:22] <usr13> tjb1: lspci
[04:22] <neil098> but what i need is a good isolation so we can figure out whats really going on
[04:23] <tjb1> usr13: I haven't been able to find a address using that, the card shows up and it tells me IO ports at 1000 and 1008
[04:23] <Sara> when i try to resize sd4
[04:23] <Sara> http://www.mediafire.com/view/?ccryftj7ufrxen9
[04:23] <Sara> http://www.mediafire.com/view/?ojdutdyim841dtd
[04:24] <usr13> tjb1: lspci -vvvv
[04:25] <tjb1> Still no address from what I can see
[04:25] <Sara> ubuntu-tester
[04:25] <tjb1> Using cat/proc/ioports on my old computer showed two "parport0" entries and one of them was the card, on this new one I only get one parport0 being the onboard card but nothing showing again
[04:26] <xbskid> Is there a way I can force Ubuntu One on Windows to recheck the files it's supposed to keep synced?
[04:27] <xbskid> Clear its cache directory?
[04:27] <tjb1> In the cat /proc/ioports I see PCI Bus which has 1000 and 1008 listed under it
[04:27] <tjb1> directly above it is PCI conf1 which shows "0cf8-0cff", would the 0cf8 be the address?
[04:28] <jjason> hello all, im trying to understand the difference between free software and open source..  im not sure what room would be appropriate so i figured id ask here
[04:28] <ubuntu-tester> Sara: gparted has warned you about consequences of this action but not denied it. it has queued move operation (see at the bottom)
[04:29] <Sara> i applied it
[04:29] <ubuntu-tester> Sara: show screenshot after that (press Alt+Prtsc instead of Prtsc)
[04:30] <usr13> jjason: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
[04:31] <Sara> after what its operating. resizing the partion. it needed to move ubuntu data to left and then extend it from right side
[04:31] <Sara> ubuntu has interesting way of doing all these things
[04:31] <Sara> 4.99 of 90 GB
[04:32] <xbskid> jjason: Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software#Naming
[04:32] <usr13> jjason: The two terms pretty much describe the same thing.  free software is software that you are free to do with as you wish, you have access to the code.  open source means the same thing, (the source code is available and open to the public for you to look at and edit if you so desire).
[04:33] <r0n1n> Sara: that's a very long operation
[04:33] <jjason> usr13: yeah
[04:33] <bullitt> Newb question: How do I open up a second terminal? Clicking it again on the bar doesn't do anything.
[04:33] <usr13> jjason: /join ##linux
[04:33] <bullitt> Used to slackware :/
[04:33] <jjason> usr13: but..  open source is
[04:33] <jjason> linux
[04:33] <jjason> ok
[04:33] <minond> oh unity...
[04:33] <usr13> bullitt:  Shift-Ctrl-n
[04:33] <minond> try middle click
[04:33] <ubuntu-tester> Sara: you could do it all then apply one time and wait
[04:34] <jjason> usr13:  im trying to figure out how it works that people sell proprietary plugins to opensource applications
[04:34] <smw_> I just installed 12.10. How do you configure empathy? Are there any settings? I lost the ability to have my contacts grouped
[04:34] <jjason> and how open projects get closed
[04:34] <bullitt> minond: middle-click. thank you.
[04:34] <jjason> like nesus
[04:34] <jjason> and tenable
[04:34] <Sara> 56 min :) it said it may fail to boot after these. what should i do if it did fail?
[04:34] <minond> bullitt: np
[04:34] <Sara> is there anyway to repair it?
[04:35] <usr13> jjason: free software does not necessarily mean that it is free as in you do not pay $$ for it.  You may or may not pay $$ for it.
[04:35] <jjason> or how people are able to sell open source applications without customers just downloading on their own and not paying
[04:35] <jjason> right
[04:35] <jjason> usr13 : when i pay money for free software, what prevents me from selling it
[04:36] <jjason> usr13: like..  just buying the software, then immediately undercutting the seller
[04:36] <r0n1n> Sara: if your system failed after resizing, you can use your ubuntu live usb for repair work. there's an article on ubuntu wiki on how to do it
[04:36] <ubuntu-tester> Sara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:36] <usr13> jjason: We are encouraged to donate to the developers of our choosing.  If we like a particular package, it is a good thing to give the developers some $$.
[04:36] <r0n1n> ubuntu-tester: that's what i'm referring
[04:36] <bullitt> Why does su not work, but when using sudo command (enter pw) work?
[04:37] <Sara> have worked with boot repair before. not with the live usb for repair
[04:37] <Sara> is it the same usb that i installed ubuntu from?
[04:37] <r0n1n> Sara: yes
[04:37] <ubuntu-tester> Sara: yes
[04:38] <Sara> never saw repair option during install process??????/
[04:38] <bullitt> Is there a way to go into text-mode from ubuntu?
[04:38] <bullitt> in slackware: you could start that way, and then use startx to enter the GUI
[04:38] <usr13> jjason: See GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE    http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
[04:38] <dr_willis> !text | bullitt
[04:38] <ubuntu-tester> !nox | bullitt
[04:39] <r0n1n> Sara: just boot into live session from your usb, download boot-repair and run it
[04:39] <dr_willis> su lets you change to a user. but not to root.. thats how ubuntu is designed
[04:39] <genio_> :)
[04:40] <Sara> so these two are the same way of repairing ubuntu. boot repair and live usb repair option?
[04:41] <ubuntu-tester> Sara: there is no separate live usb repair option AFAIK
[04:41] <dr_willis> boot a live cd. and install  the boot-repair tool.  is handy to fix grub.
[04:41] <dr_willis> there are some live cd's that comd with boot-repair
[04:42] <ubuntu-tester> dr_willis: but not the official Ubuntu one, right?
[04:42] <usr13> Sara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:42] <jjason> usr13: thanks
[04:43] <usr13> Sara: Insert your Ubuntu CD, reboot your computer and set it to boot from CD in the BIOS and boot into a live session. You can also use a LiveUSB if you have created one in the past. Install and run Boot-Repair:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:43] <usr13> jjason: NP
[04:43] <dr_willis> the boot-repair wiki page has a link to a hybrid iso that works for 32 and 64bit -  that comes with boot-repair. its handy to have in your pc-toolbox
[04:44] <Omen_20> Anyone know how to move Steam to another drive on linux? I've done it on Windows before, but not sure about the beta on Ubuntu.
[04:45] <ubuntu-tester> dr_willis: oh yes, thanks
[04:45] <Sara> Thanks :) guys
[04:46] <usr13> Omen_20: "move Steam to another drive"?
[04:47] <MrClean360> hello folks
[04:49] <dr_willis> Omen_20:  there may be a .steam directory you just move over
[04:49] <usr13> Omen_20: http://askubuntu.com/questions/240903/how-can-i-move-steams-download-folder
[04:49] <dr_willis> Omen_20:  or just use soft links. ;)
[04:49] <dr_willis> I need to lookinto that soon also. cant have steam filling up my ssd
[04:50] <MrClean360> that sounds like bad news
[04:50] <Omen_20> Nice. So is there no performance his in using symlinks for something like this?
[04:50] <Omen_20> hit*
[04:50] <usr13> Omen_20: No
[04:51] <MrClean360> excuse me while I leave I have something important I need to do
[04:51] <usr13> Symlinks do not require extra resources
[04:55] <SecretFire> what will be new in 13.04?
[04:56] <minond> (back to Gnome2 - I wish!!!)
[04:59] <sbbb> has quit has join has quit has join quit join quit join
[04:59] <sbbb> how do i can close the function 0 0
[04:59] <xangua> minond: and then back to gnome1 :) sweet
[05:03] <dr_willis> SecretFire:  the omgubuntu blog site has postings about whats to be new in it.. and what changes daily for it
[05:04] <SecretFire> dr_willis : thanks
[05:06] <sbbb> ANYONE?!
[05:06] <dr_willis> sbbb:  perhaps ask a question that makes sence.
[05:13] <KylieBrooks> so um
[05:14] <KylieBrooks> hi
[05:14] <KylieBrooks> even in gnome classic
[05:14] <KylieBrooks> it seems firefox is slow
[05:17] <shortstraw8> how do I move a copy of my repo to the /var/www/? 12.04 ubuntu
[05:17] <dr_willis> 'copy of my repo' meaning what exactly?
[05:18] <minond> cp -r path/to/repo /var/www/
[05:19] <shortstraw8> dr_willis, so that apache will load it
[05:20] <stevo_> does anyone play warsow through desura client, getting an error when launching
[05:29] <sbbb> q
[05:29] <sbbb> quit
[05:29] <Omen_20> Was told by a guy in #ubuntu-steam that the symlink wasn't needed. After you move the whole directory all you have to do is open the client and it will ask to either reinstall or search. From there you can just direct it to the new folder. Worked fine.
[05:31] <KylieBrooks> hi all
[05:33] <szx> I've system partition and now nautilus shows 0 free space in /home but there are 17 GB free (and GParted confirms that), what do I do?
[05:33] <szx> moved*
[05:34] <szx> also I have now two cursors on the screen
[05:34] <szx> lol
[05:34] <_helios_> lmao
[05:34] <szx> and they both move
[05:35] <_helios_> something is corrupt
[05:36] <_helios_> szx, I would suggest a re-install
[05:37] <szx> that's no a solution
[05:37] <dr_willis> or cleaning your glasses :)
[05:37] <dr_willis> how big is your home partition total?
[05:37] <_helios_> szx, sometimes that's the best solution, that's what I do when something stupid happens like that
[05:42] <JustJoe> Where is the best place to seek an answer about studio 12.04
[05:43] <XtremeWiz> JustJoe: #ubuntustudio  maybe
[05:44] <JustJoe> A broken pipe problem
[05:46] <minond> ahhhh, fresh install - how great
[05:49] <JustJoe> That was the solution
[05:49] <mvt007geek> hi .can someone help me for checksum?
[05:50] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|mvt007geek,
[05:51] <JustJoe> How does one avoid this Pipe breaking problem...
[05:52] <elfer> call a plumber
[05:53] <JustJoe> Of course.. In this case it resulted from updating 12.04...
[05:54] <JustJoe> The drive will take a bit of work to restore
[05:57] <stevo_> can anyone help me get the game "warsow" running on ubuntu 12.04 x86_64
[05:58] <cfhowlett> stevo_, "warsow" is not in the ubuntu software center.  for support, suggest you see the game developer's site.
[05:59] <stevo_> @cfhowlett , alright thank you
[05:59] <DaemonicApathy> stevo_: http://www.warsow.net/download/ubuntu_precise
[06:00] <JustJoe> I'm going to assume that no one else has experienced the broken pipe in the middle of an update running....
[06:00] <Mary__> i just installed ubuntu server how to i enable sshd
[06:00] <Mary__> or do i just need to open port?
[06:01] <DaemonicApathy> Mary__, my process was: sudo apt-get install openssh
[06:01] <DaemonicApathy> Then forward port 22.
[06:01] <Mary__> DaemonicApathy: thank you
[06:02] <Mary__> i would have thought it would have been installed by default
[06:02] <DaemonicApathy> Some people prefer to interact with their servers differently.
[06:02] <DaemonicApathy> But you should have been given the option during installation, even if you may have missed it.
[06:03] <neil098> hi guys need to help in deciding if i should upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to ubuntu 12.10, my login screen started to get and laggy as well as video playback? any suggestions?
[06:03] <DaemonicApathy> neil098: Try it from a LiveUSB, and decide for yourself.
[06:04] <cfhowlett> neil098, 12.04 is LTS.  12.10 is not.
[06:04] <DaemonicApathy> This gives you a chance to test programs and features, but gives a bad estimate for speed.
[06:05] <neil098> Ok lets say i wanted to upgrade to 12.10, i tried it now and what happened was i had an error saying it could not calculate the chages
[06:05] <cfhowlett> neil098, verify your iso or search out what that error means.  doesn't sound good.
[06:05] <_sam_> free" indicate 0 swap space ,how to increase??
[06:06] <neil098> i tried googling it but had no luck
[06:06] <codepython777> I've a service which wont start
[06:06] <codepython777> how can i debug it?
[06:06] <neil098> it says something like could not calculate the upgrade
[06:06] <codepython777> I dont see anything in the error log
[06:06] <cfhowlett> neil098, did you verify the iso?
[06:06] <codepython777> how do i even find out - what does /etc/init.d/xyz start execute?
[06:07] <_sam_> i have 0 swap space ,help me to increase .
[06:07] <neil098> how do i verify iso?
[06:07] <DaemonicApathy> _sam_: Make a new partition on your hard drive, and format it to be swap.
[06:07] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|neil098, eliminate one possible problem by verification.
[06:08] <neil098> ok
[06:09] <cah_mendem> this room is very silent
[06:09] <cah_mendem> hahaha
[06:09] <_sam_> daemoniApathy: right now i am using system,suggest command to do so.
[06:10] <DaemonicApathy> _sam_: You can use gparted to make a new swap partition. How much RAM do you have?
[06:10] <_sam_> 1 gb
[06:10] <DaemonicApathy> So I would make your swap 2-3GB.
[06:11] <_sam_> ok
[06:12] <neil098> i tried it
[06:12] <neil098> and says no such file in directory
[06:12] <neil098> any specific commands you suggest to check iso
[06:13] <DaemonicApathy> neil098: md5sum /wherever/your/file/is.iso
[06:13] <dr_willis> i would gyess you spelt the file name wrong neil098
[06:13] <cfhowlett> neil098, this is the check the installation ISO.  What you described could be a scrambled installation effect.  plug in your usb or installation dvd and run the check on the iso you installed with
[06:13] <cfhowlett> neil098, correction, check the iso you downloaded and created the installation media with.
[06:14] <neil098> huh?
[06:14] <neil098> i just a newbie
[06:14] <cfhowlett> neil098, did you download a file to install ubuntu with?
[06:14] <neil098> i just downloaded ubuntu from its website and installed it via usb
[06:15] <cfhowlett> neil098, right.  So you need to verify the file you downloaded.
[06:15] <mvt007geek>  can someone tell me if i did checksum right or wrong? http://paste.debian.net/226654/    ihave an image in Downloads/i checksumed it/ then checked the size of the image that i copied in my sd card// and chexksumed that too//
[06:15] <neil098> how do i do that through terminal
[06:15] <Mary__> as anyone here install nagios?  I would assume i would need to install apache first?
[06:16] <cfhowlett> mvt007geek, does the readout match the listed hashsum?
[06:17] <mvt007geek> cfhowlett: what do you mean exactly?
[06:17] <DaemonicApathy> mvt007geek, do you still have the unextracted gz file?
[06:18] <cfhowlett> mvt007geek, on the download page you should see a list of hashsum.    The output of md5sum should match your hashsum
[06:18] <cah_mendem> any one try install ubuntu on xenserver?
[06:18] <mvt007geek> DaemonicApathy: i checkedsum the gz file befor and that was ok.
[06:18] <neil098> how to verify iso
[06:18] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|neil098,
[06:18] <neil098> dont know how to do it
[06:18] <DaemonicApathy> mvt007: Great, as long as the result was a057e3cb0bd33ef0d85335c514528246, the image is fine.
[06:19] <neil098> i already tried that and it doesnt help me at all
[06:19] <neil098> all i get is no such file in directory
[06:19] <cah_mendem> you can use md5checksum
[06:19] <XtremeWiz> neil098: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[06:19] <cfhowlett> neil098, where is your saved iso?
[06:19] <neil098> my save iso file i think it is already gone
[06:20] <mvt007geek> cfhowlett: i checked the downloaded file.now i dd that file to a sdcard.i want to checksum the image in sdcard with the extracted img in Downloads.
[06:20] <neil098> just saved it in a usb file
[06:20] <DaemonicApathy> neil098: Time to redownload and reinstall.
[06:20] <neil098> i mean just saved it in a usb
[06:20] <cfhowlett> neil098, ah, well ...
[06:20] <neil098> well it will loose all my data
[06:20] <DaemonicApathy> neil098, have another USB or CD/DVD?
[06:20] <cfhowlett> mvt007geek, over my head.  wish I could help. sorry.
[06:20] <neil098> nope
[06:21] <neil098> dont have a usb now.
[06:21] <cfhowlett> neil098, by any chance did you use the windows/wubi installer?
[06:21] <DaemonicApathy> mvt007geek: afaik the sum completely changes after extraction, so you'd have to compare it to a known-to-be-correct extracted file.
[06:21] <neil098> nope, what i just did is downloaded ubuntu on my usb and followed the prompts
[06:22] <mvt007geek> DaemonicApathy: i checksumed the extracted file.is it wrong?
[06:22] <neil098> now the reason why i am wanting to upgrade is maybe it resolve my video issues and slow login screen
[06:22] <cfhowlett> neil098, saving a downloaded iso to the usb doesnt' make it bootable ...
[06:22] <cfhowlett> neil098, save a downloaded USB to your computer, md5sum, THEN create a bootable media.
[06:23] <neil098> ever since i downloaded the updates for kernels my video playback had latencies and is freezing and login screen is slow
[06:23] <ironman> what games from steam are compatible with linux so far?
[06:23] <neil098> i already did a bootable usb
[06:23] <cfhowlett> neil098, boot a different kernel to compare.
[06:23] <neil098> whoa
[06:23] <SunkSullen> Ive played the laf life series games in Linux with wine
[06:23] <DaemonicApathy> mvt007geek: Not wrong, there just isn't an available value for it to compare to. There will be in 15 minutes.
[06:23] <neil098> and how should i be doing that
[06:23] <SunkSullen> *half life
[06:23] <cfhowlett> neil098, so you made a bootable usb with the usb you saved your iso to?
[06:23] <XtremeWiz> I've set my default browser as chromium, but the links in xChat -- they are opened in Firefox. This is weird.
[06:24] <SunkSullen> including half life 1, half life 2 and all the expansions
[06:24] <cfhowlett> neil098, reboot, hit your interrupt key during power on and boot an older version of linux.
[06:24] <mvt007geek> DaemonicApathy: http://paste.debian.net/226654/  did you see this?
[06:24] <SunkSullen> ironman:  also I was using the actual steam versions not the cracked ones
[06:25] <cfhowlett> ironman, ask/investigate on steam.
[06:25] <neil098> i only have ubuntu12.04
[06:25] <SunkSullen> ironman: I did notice problems though with using UNity and steam games but they might have fixed that by now
[06:25] <cfhowlett> neil098, and more than one kernel, you said.
[06:25] <SunkSullen> ironman: I had best luck with gnome-shell or xfce
[06:25] <cfhowlett> neil098, previous kernels = older versions
[06:26] <neil098> i removed older kernels through ubuntu tweak janitor
[06:27] <Terminal> I have a small question.
[06:27] <DaemonicApathy> mvt007geek: yes
[06:27] <cfhowlett> neil098, bad move.  always keep at least ONE old kernel.  and consider carefully your use of UT.  It's not offered in the software center for a reason
[06:27] <Terminal> I am installing Ubuntu on a ThinkPad for my dad who never uses computers.  Should I download the long term support version, or latest releases?
[06:27] <neil098> i was advised to remove it
[06:28] <XtremeWiz> Terminal: LTS, perhaps
[06:28] <cfhowlett> Terminal, LTS
[06:28] <Terminal> Thank you guys much!
[06:28] <Terminal> Bye.
[06:28] <cfhowlett> neil098, so if the NEW kernel fails you can fall back to ... what?
[06:28] <mvt007geek> DaemonicApathy: so was my way wrong? does it mean that the sdcard doesn’t contain the complete image?
[06:28] <neil098> so what do i do now
[06:28] <tacorwin> i have a question, but its completely off the topic of ubuntu..
[06:28] <neil098> how do i get it back?
[06:29] <cfhowlett> neil098, download 12.04.1, save the iso, make a bootable USB, reinstall.
[06:30] <neil098> do you think that should fix my playback issue?
[06:30] <neil098> and my login issue?
[06:30] <magn3ts> I don't understand the obsession with Ubuntu Tweak. Screams of Windows-stockhold-syndrome
[06:30] <DaemonicApathy> mvt007geek: Your way was incorrect. Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5sum under "create" and "check".
[06:30] <SunkSullen> tacorwin:  off-topic discussion is for #ubuntu-offtopic     :-)
[06:31] <tacorwin> SunkSullen: Thanks :)
[06:31] <cfhowlett> neil098, would I be wrong in assuming you "tweaked" a bunch of system settings?
[06:33] <neil098> i only do what i was advised
[06:34] <neil098> so do you think the updates did cause the issue or not
[06:34] <devvrat> any one has problem with vga driver in ubuntu?
[06:35] <Aquiles> .....
[06:35] <Engin> I want to get the bare minimums nevessary to get a development environment in a virtual machine.New fancy stuff simply does not render.
[06:35] <cfhowlett> neil098, can't say but I DO know that UT causes more than its fair share of weird behavior ...
[06:35] <cfhowlett> Engin, tried the ubuntu/sputnik release?
[06:35] <devvrat> ubuntu is running very slow what to do?
[06:36] <devvrat> slower than win7
[06:36] <devvrat> what to do?
[06:37] <Engin> cfhowlett: just downloaded the latest desktop release
[06:37] <Engin> cfhowlett: 12.10 I suppose
[06:38] <XtremeWiz> devvrat: this may or may not help - http://www.howtogeek.com/115797/6-ways-to-speed-up-ubuntu/
[06:38] <cfhowlett> Engin, well, if that's not meeting your dev needs, I don't know what to suggest.
[06:38] <Engin> how can I disable this visual stuff
[06:39] <Engin> apparently not from system settings
[06:39] <magn3ts> Engin, do a server install + build-essentials. Vim to your heart's content. Or use XFCE or whatever DE you want that is lightweight enough for your needs.
[06:39] <cfhowlett> !nounity|Engin, assuming you mean unity ...
[06:39] <_sam_> i hv one partition ,that is active so unable to create partition using gparted
[06:39] <cfhowlett> _sam_, boot an ubuntu disk and run gparted from that
[06:40] <Engin> ubottu: that's the kind of information I've asked for, thanks
[06:40] <Engin> i love you anyway
[06:40] <_sam_> cfhowlett: to create swap of 3 gb what next i have to do
[06:41] <thec4ke> ubottu is dumb
[06:41] <dr_willis> its just a factoid bot.
[06:41] <thec4ke> ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is dumb
[06:41] <cfhowlett> !swap|_sam_,
[06:42] <Engin> I think I'll just use xfce
[06:42] <cfhowlett> Engin, xfce is the base for ubuntustudio.  Pretty light and tight, but don't hesitate to also install and test lxde
[06:42] <thec4ke> Engin: gnome-3 based stuff now forces you to use compositing
[06:42] <thec4ke> so yea try xfce or mate
[06:43] <Engin> thec4ke: well, it does work well with vmware
[06:43] <Engin> quick way to change apt-get mirrors to a closer one...t his one is slow as hell
[06:44] <neil098> @cfhowlett so you think it is time for a re-install or is there a way to fix the issue with the video playback and the slow login transition
[06:44] <cfhowlett> Engin, quick way is to edit "software sources" in the ubuntu store settings
[06:44] <cfhowlett> neil098, I'd reinstall ... and I
[06:44] <cfhowlett> wouldn't touch ubuntu tweak again
[06:45] <neil098> ok
[06:52] <_sam_> how will i know that swap partition  is on your primary hard drive
[06:53] <thec4ke> _sam_: it's whatever is marked swap in /etc/fstab
[06:54] <Abhijit> _sam_, gparted will show you the information
[06:54] <_sam_> ok
[06:55] <Sail> how to encrypt a external drive without reformatting it
[06:55] <cfhowlett> !ecryptfs|Sail
[06:55] <Abhijit> !encrypt | Sail
[06:56] <cfhowlett> !ecrypt|Sail
[06:56] <Abhijit> cfhowlett, the space! :-p
[06:56] <XtremeWiz> !encrypt|sail
[06:56] <XtremeWiz> hehe
[06:56] <cfhowlett> Abhijit, :)
[06:56] <Thor> lol, wonderful :P
[06:57] <Sail> XtremeWiz: whats the xact package name for installation
[06:57] <Thor> looks more like it was a lack of n in encrypt Abhijit :P
[06:57] <Thor> Sail: read the link, first line ;)
[06:57] <Abhijit> Sail, there are many. you can try truecrypt or ecryptfs
[06:58] <Abhijit> Thor, :-) Okey!
[06:58] <XtremeWiz> Sail: I just corrected the command, I'm sorry. I don't know anything about this. :P
[06:58] <debiantoruser> Greetings!
[06:58] <debiantoruser> i have try apt-get -o DPkg::options::=--force-confmiss --reinstall install pulseaudio
[06:58] <Sail> XtremeWiz: thn dont reply like blind
[06:58] <debiantoruser> try apt-get -o DPkg::options::=--force-overwrite --reinstall install pulseaudio
[06:58] <Sail> no offense
[06:58] <debiantoruser>  i have try apt-get -o DPkg::options::=--force-confnew --reinstall install pulseaudio
[06:58] <debiantoruser> But no luck, still have my changes: /etc/pulse/default.pa
[06:59] <debiantoruser> How to reinstall config files?
[06:59] <Geet> what does Ubuntu Certification for hardwre signify?
[06:59] <debiantoruser> Pulseaudio can't be deleted, cause depends of Gnome :/
[06:59] <cfhowlett> Geet, that it will "just work"
[06:59] <XtremeWiz> Sail: I didn't reply lol
[07:00] <Geet> cfhowlett, my laptop is listed and the tested versions are 11.10 and 12.04 amd 64 bit. Does that necessaryily mean I will have problems for other versions?
[07:00] <Abhijit> Geet, not for versions mentioned and onwards.
[07:01] <cfhowlett> Geet, no it does not indicate other versions will fail but it has been tested for the ones you listed.
[07:01] <Abhijit> Geet, if you are using a non-mainstream hardware or software then that depends.
[07:02] <Geet> cfhowlett, and what version would you recommend? 12.04 or 12.10? I am currently using 12.10 but it's not smooth as 11.10 was for me and also giving me heating problems.
[07:02] <debiantoruser> ANYBODY!
[07:02] <Abhijit> !patience | debiantoruser
[07:03] <cfhowlett> Geet, unless you need the latest/greatest/shiniest stuff, I recommend LTS, i.e. 12.04.  My free opinion and worth every cent it cost you.
[07:03] <debiantoruser> Fresh config files is one of the most actual question for every user, what do you think, Abhijit?
[07:04] <Geet> cfhowlett, I plan to immediately put the gnome shell anyways so I guess I will go for it. Btw if 13.10 or 14.04 looks good.. then will I able to upgrade to thos versions?
[07:04] <debiantoruser> I was googled about 5 hour
[07:04] <debiantoruser> s
[07:06] <DWSR> find . -type f -exec mv {} /media/Videos/Movies ; <-- what's wrong with this?
[07:06] <thec4ke> you need to escape the ;
[07:06] <thec4ke> ie \;
[07:07] <dr_willis> and be carefull of files with spaces in the names..
[07:11] <Slaptman> How would I put a home folder shortcut on the desktop on lubuntu12.10,and is tere any extension to Download Mp3 for youtube videos in chromium?
[07:18] <Guest24783> Is there any Open Source Software like Dragon Natural Speaking for Ubuntu ???
[07:20] <Abhijit> Guest24783, what does dragon natural does?
[07:21] <debiantoruser> Deadzone
[07:21] <XtremeWiz> ln -s ~/ ~/Desktop/Home      it should work.
[07:22] <dr_willis> hmm.
[07:24] <FPSDavid> anyone help me? I stupidly set my Ubuntu VM to 8GB, and now it ran out of space. Resized it to 20GB in VMWare Player settings, but can't figure out how to resize it in Ubuntu
[07:24] <FPSDavid> if i open gparted, it wont let me resize, since everything is mounted
[07:26] <thec4ke> you need to boot from an unmounted partition or use a rescue disk (image) if one doesnt exist
[07:26] <BillyZane> hi
[07:26] <FPSDavid> thec4ke, how do I do that if its in VMWare?
[07:26] <savio> hi
[07:26] <BillyZane> is the "apt-get" command something all debian distros share?
[07:26] <TakeItEZ> BillyZane: yes
[07:26] <BillyZane> would it work outside of debian?
[07:26] <thec4ke> FPSDavid: use any livecd with gparted
[07:27] <FPSDavid> i tried to make a new VM and run the liveCD version of ubuntu
[07:27] <savio> BillyZane, redhat use rpm and debain uses dpkg for packaging
[07:27] <thec4ke> you can mount the .iso in vmware as a cd device
[07:27] <TakeItEZ> BillyZane: there was apt4rpm, i don't know if that still exists for rpm-based distro
[07:27] <FPSDavid> but then it doesnt see the other VM's stff?
[07:27] <thec4ke> make it in the VM you want to use it on
[07:27] <BillyZane> very interesting.....
[07:28] <BillyZane> so, ubuntu is a gang
[07:28] <FPSDavid> how do i do that, thec4ke?
[07:28] <savio> BillyZane,yup
[07:28] <FPSDavid> i can mount the ubuntu .iso, but then what
[07:28] <thec4ke> go to bios
[07:28] <thec4ke> when it boots up
[07:28] <thec4ke> you have to press the key for it really quickly
[07:28] <thec4ke> its F12 or del iirc
[07:28] <BillyZane> savio: ty :)
[07:28] <thec4ke> then select the CD
[07:29] <savio> BillyZane, no problem
[07:35] <FPSDavid> hrmm thec4ke, i couldnt see the CD once i got into the bios
[07:38] <chmac> I'm trying to get a udev script to trigger on usb hotplug. I've put a script into /etc/udev/rules.d/99-usbbackup.rules and I've copied / pasted the attrs section, but it just won't run.
[07:38] <chmac> Any suggestions on how to debug?
[07:41] <FPSDavid> okay, thec4ke, i got into the Ubuntu LIVE CD
[07:41] <FPSDavid> and in gparted
[07:41] <FPSDavid> but still cant expand the partitions?
[07:42] <FPSDavid> http://cl.ly/image/2p1J2s1A0U3p/Image%202013-01-19%20at%2011.42.23%20PM.png
[07:45] <cub> what graphics card works best with unity
[07:45] <thec4ke> type mount | grep sda
[07:45] <thec4ke> in terminal
[07:45] <FPSDavid> whats that do?
[07:46] <thec4ke> tells you if sda is mounted or not
[07:46] <FPSDavid> it didnt say anything
[07:46] <FPSDavid> it lets me shrink the partitions
[07:46] <FPSDavid> but not expand
[07:46] <TakeItEZ> FPSDavid: sudo swapoff -a
[07:47] <FPSDavid> still cant expand
[07:47] <dr_willis> cub:  i would say an nvidia card thats not one of those dual-gpu optmius. and not just came out. ;) one that was high end/mid range like last yeaar. ;)
[07:47] <lasantha> FPSDavid i'm just asking, can't you move the sda5 to left?
[07:47] <thec4ke> can you expand the swap partition (sda2)?
[07:48] <FPSDavid> yes
[07:48] <cub> ah dr_willis awesome
[07:48] <sanelss> does anyone have eclipse uno running in 12.1? I can't for the life of me get it to work :(
[07:48] <thec4ke> you probably need to delete the swap, expand the main partition, then readd the swap
[07:48] <thec4ke> then update /etc/fstab to the new swap partition
[07:49] <FPSDavid> how big does the swap need to be, 4GB?
[07:49] <palasso> Hello I noticed on 12.10 my PC connects to wifi from unity greeter. How is that possible? Isn't the wifi password stored in gnome-keyring which is locked before login? Does it have anything to do with that I entered the password when installing 12.10? Is this a security and privacy issue?
[07:49] <thec4ke> id just keep it at 4
[07:49] <thec4ke> it can be smaller but youre less likely to break something
[07:51] <FPSDavid> okay, thec4ke, did I do this right? http://cl.ly/image/2B2p3w3y1A2f/Image%202013-01-19%20at%2011.51.21%20PM.png
[07:52] <skp1> hello, i just did a fresh install of ubuntu 12.10, and i want it to recognise my seperate /home partition, how do i do that?
[07:52] <ikonia> skp1: how does it not recognise it ?
[07:52] <thec4ke> yea that should work
[07:53] <skp1> well when i navigate to my homefolder there is nothing inside it and it shows my /home partition as a seperate partition. i wanted to keep all my settings with this new install
[07:53] <FPSDavid> how do i do the update /etc/fstab part, thec4ke?
[07:53] <SwedeMike> skp1: what gets mounted on boot is handled in /etc/fstab
[07:53] <thec4ke> after that you might need to run sudo mkswap on the new swap partition
[07:53] <thec4ke> its probably /dev/sda2
[07:54] <thec4ke> not sure if gparted sets up the swap automatically or not
[07:54] <FPSDavid> i right-clciked and set SwapOn
[07:54] <thec4ke> it probably does
[07:54] <FPSDavid> is that good enough?
[07:54] <thec4ke> type swapon -s
[07:54] <FPSDavid> /dev/sda2
[07:55] <thec4ke> youre all set then
[07:55] <TakeItEZ> FPSDavid: if you recreated swap, you might change the UUID in /etc/fstab
[07:55] <FPSDavid> reboot and good to go?
[07:55] <thec4ke> no
[07:55] <thec4ke> you still need to do fstab
[07:55] <thec4ke> first mount the disk
[07:55] <FPSDavid> explain? i dont know what that is
[07:55] <skp1> SwedeMike: can you show me what an fstab entry might look like if i wanted to mount my seperate p[artition as /home?
[07:55] <thec4ke> mount -f ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt
[07:55] <thec4ke> er
[07:56] <thec4ke> mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt
[07:56] <SwedeMike> skp1: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[07:56] <dr_willis> !changehome
[07:56] <skp1> SwedeMike: thanks
[07:56] <dr_willis> it will be a standasrd entry only with the mountpoint being /home
[07:56] <FPSDavid> okay, did that thec4ke
[07:56] <thec4ke> now edit /mnt/etc/fstab
[07:56] <dr_willis> or you could mount it to some other location, then just link it to /home
[07:57] <thec4ke> in whatever editor you like
[07:57] <FPSDavid> what am i adding/changing?
[07:57] <thec4ke> first copy the the line with "swap" written on it
[07:57] <thec4ke> and put a # in front of it
[07:57] <thec4ke> as a backup
[07:58] <thec4ke> then change the UUID=<numbers> line to /dev/sda2
[07:58] <FPSDavid> not sure i follow
[07:58] <FPSDavid> http://cl.ly/image/3m153S1O0k1g/Image%202013-01-19%20at%2011.58.43%20PM.png
[07:59] <szx> can someone help me with this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/245270/nautilus-doesnt-see-free-space-but-gparted-does
[07:59] <thec4ke> ok
[07:59] <thec4ke> copy that line
[07:59] <thec4ke> and put # in front of it
[08:00] <thec4ke> so its # UUID= etc etc
[08:00] <FPSDavid> yaeh
[08:00] <thec4ke> now in the original line, delete the UUID part and the first none after it
[08:01] <thec4ke> now replace it with: none    /dev/sda2
[08:01] <FPSDavid> what do you mean the original line
[08:01] <thec4ke> ug im sorry
[08:02] <thec4ke> replace is with /dev/sda2 swap
[08:02] <FPSDavid> im super lost lol
[08:02] <thec4ke> the one that you copied and put # in front of
[08:02] <FPSDavid> so leave the one i put a #, make a new line below it?
[08:02] <thec4ke> yes, copied from the one you put # in front of
[08:03] <thec4ke> so there are two copies of the same line
[08:03] <thec4ke> one has # in front of it
[08:03] <thec4ke> thats youre backup
[08:03] <thec4ke> in case something doesnt work
[08:03] <thec4ke> # means "ignore this line:"
[08:03] <TakeItEZ> FPSDavid: just create a new line containing this: "/dev/sda2 none swap sw 0 0"
[08:03] <FPSDavid> yeah, i got that part
[08:03] <FPSDavid> so now i have two lines with uuid=9ewhatever
[08:03] <FPSDavid> one commented out, one not
[08:03] <thec4ke> k now delete the uuid=483274982374
[08:04] <thec4ke> and replace it with /dev/sda2
[08:04] <FPSDavid> okay
[08:04] <thec4ke> now save and youre done
[08:04] <thec4ke> actually
[08:04] <thec4ke> send me an ss
[08:04] <FPSDavid> good? http://cl.ly/image/101T130j0d0a/Image%202013-01-20%20at%2012.04.43%20AM.png
[08:05] <thec4ke> yes
[08:05] <thec4ke> you should be all set
[08:06] <kelvinella> is there a bug between gimp and unity?
[08:07] <kelvinella> whenever i switch to other window, the picture i open in gimp will disappear and i have to close gimp and reopen gimp
[08:07] <FPSDavid> thanks thec4ke, appreciate it
[08:07] <FPSDavid> all is well now
[08:07] <thec4ke> good, glad to help
[08:10] <knittl> hi. I have a really annoying bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/727112 does anyone have any ideas what the issue might be or how to properly troubleshoot this problem?
[08:10] <aaas> how can i boot to a console rather than the login screen
[08:11] <TakeItEZ> !nox | aaas
[08:11] <aaas> TakeItEZ thanks, and how do i boot to login from the command line?
[08:12] <TakeItEZ> aaas: you mean how to start the displaymanager? sudo service lightdm start
[08:12] <aaas> TakeItEZ thakns
[08:13] <tms_> after login again login screen comes. I am able to login through guest. I am using 12.04. Can any one help me in this ?
[08:14] <dr_willis> tms_:  login at the console.  see if that works.   common issue is ownership of the .Xauthority file. you could just rename it. mv .Xauthority  OLD.Xauthority
[08:14] <dr_willis> You can get tyo the console via alt-ctrl-f1 through F6 and  use alt-cgrl-f7 to get back to X.
[08:14] <tms_> dr_willis: ok will try it now
[08:15] <dr_willis> if .Xauthority dosent do it.. theres all these other confiog files you may want to move to some backup directory
[08:15] <dr_willis> also a good test is to makea New user. and see if that user can login
[08:15] <dr_willis> sudo adduser testuser
[08:16] <TakeItEZ> and never forget to "sudo deluser testuser" later
[08:18] <tms_> dr_willis: TakeItEZ ok
[08:18] <dr_willis> I always keep the test user around
[08:18] <dr_willis> not like it really takes up much space
[08:19] <TakeItEZ> dr_willis: its a security issue, not a matter of space
[08:19] <tms_> mv .Xauthority  OLD.Xauthority not working
[08:19] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:19] <cristian_c> I've enabled suspend with: dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend
[08:19] <dr_willis> how it it any more of a security issue then having other users on the system
[08:19] <tms_> switching to 2nd option
[08:19] <cristian_c> It works but when I try resume, a kernel panic occurs or desktop is unusable
[08:19] <dr_willis> if the test user fails.. that would point to a deeper issue with the system
[08:19] <TakeItEZ> dr_willis: in most cases those "testuseraccount has no real password (12345, secret, mummy), there you go
[08:19] <cristian_c> How can I solve this problem?
[08:20] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:24] <aeon-ltd> cristian_c: find a better way to suspend?
[08:25] <cristian_c> aeon-ltd, yes
[08:25] <cristian_c> aeon-ltd, I've tried with the session menu
[08:25] <cristian_c> aeon-ltd, but it occurs tha same problem
[08:25] <tms_> dr_willis: I was able to make test user
[08:25] <cristian_c> aeon-ltd, How can I solve?
[08:26] <dr_willis> tms_:  so can the test user login via the gui login screen is the big question.
[08:26] <tms_> dr_willis: but how do I access my admin account
[08:26] <aeon-ltd>  cristian_c no idea, but if you can find out any output before the panic that could help you diagnose if you are set on using this method of suspension
[08:27] <tms_> dr_willis: yes I was able to login
[08:27] <dr_willis> tms_:  that points to the problem being with your other users setting files.  Depneding on how  hard core you want to get theres numerous config files that may be causing issues.
[08:27] <cristian_c> aeon-ltd, The last times I tried, I come back to desktop, but it's unusable
[08:27] <dr_willis> tms_:  you could start by just renameing your .config directory to backup.config   and see if the user then works
[08:28] <cristian_c> aeon-ltd, for example, the browser doesn't open
[08:28] <tms_> dr_willis: hmm
[08:28] <cristian_c> aeon-ltd, any ideas?
[08:29] <aeon-ltd> cristian_c: can you get to the terminals?
[08:30] <cristian_c> aeon-ltd, I think, but I'm not sure :)
[08:30] <benedict> adam7
[08:30] <aeon-ltd> cristian_c: if you can launch applications from there, it should output some errors
[08:30] <zvacet> since yesterday I can not shutdown or reboot what to do?
[08:30] <cristian_c> aeon-ltd, and done that, then?
[08:31] <cristian_c> :)
[08:31] <aeon-ltd> cristian_c: google the errors
[08:31] <cristian_c> aeon-ltd, ok
[08:31] <cristian_c> aeon-ltd, thanls
[08:31] <cristian_c> *thanks
[08:31] <tms_> dr_willis: renameing your .config not working. Do I need to restart ?
[08:31] <aeon-ltd> or post them here
[08:31] <dr_willis> tms_:  shoulsent have to. theres other config files in your home you could move to some Backup directory
[08:32] <atlef> zvacet, try in a terminal: sudo shutdown -P now
[08:32] <tms_> ok
[08:32] <zvacet> atlef: I can tryy that but I wish if I can go back no normal procedure
[08:32] <dr_willis> tms_:  one to try renameing next would be .compiz
[08:33] <zvacet> atlef: brb
[08:33] <tms_> dr_willis: ok
[08:33] <dr_willis> tms_:  then perhaps .gconf  and .gnome2
[08:34] <dr_willis> tms_:  if i ever have the issue i just go hard core and delte them all. ;) but ive done stuff like this so much during beta.. that i can get my settings back to how i like them in about 2 min. ;)
[08:34] <dr_willis> tms_:  by renameing the dirs you can move  them back and not lose any customized settings.
[08:34] <lcabreza> hi guys, any idea how can i assign my scroll option on my mouse to the left click instead ?
[08:35] <dr_willis> You want Midle click to be left click?
[08:35] <dr_willis> or scrolldown to be left clicn?
[08:35] <lcabreza> dr_willis: yes, thats right ..
[08:35] <skp1> can someone tell me what is wrong with this fstab entry?
[08:35] <skp1> #UUID=ee23ecaa-6d75-4139-b796-2330106a4555 /home          ext4    exec,auto,user,rw,sync 0 1
[08:36] <lcabreza> skp1: no commas ..
[08:36] <TakeItEZ> skp1: its a comment
[08:36] <dr_willis> ext4discard,noatime,nodiratime,errors=remount-ro
[08:36] <dr_willis> is what i got.. and you dont want a # at the start ;)
[08:36] <TakeItEZ> skp1: and "auto,user" makes no sense
[08:37] <dr_willis> exec is a little pointless also i think
[08:37] <skp1> i commented it out because i couldnt login
[08:37] <dr_willis> oh wait.. mine is for my SSD drive.. so you may not want those options
[08:37] <dr_willis> skp1:  you have copied  your current home to where the new home will be?
[08:37] <skp1> dr: no
[08:38] <TakeItEZ> skp1: "UUID=xxxx /home ext4 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1"
[08:38] <dr_willis> skp1:   then when you mount your /home/ itwill be empty of all users and files.. thats going to be a bit of an issue. ;)
[08:38] <TakeItEZ> skp1: make sure the UUID is ok
[08:38] <atlef> !bluetooth
[08:38] <skp1> dr_willis: the /home i want is on a seperate partition
[08:38] <lcabreza> dr_willis: any ideas on how to change it ..middle scroll into a left or right click button instead..
[08:39] <dr_willis> skp1:  so you mount it somewhere else FIRST.. ie:  newhome    then copy the old home to it
[08:39] <dr_willis> lcabreza:  not really. never had to do that.
[08:39] <dr_willis> lcabreza:  you got a broken mouse? ;)
[08:40] <lcabreza> dr_willis:yeah, don't have money yet to buy a new one ...its my 9 year mouse ..
[08:40] <lcabreza> dr_willis::'(
[08:40] <dr_willis> that must be one dirty mouse. ;)
[08:40]  * dr_willis looks at his box of about 30 mice.
[08:40] <lcabreza> dr_willis::-D
[08:40] <zvacet> atlef: sudo shutdown -P now doesn´t work
[08:41] <atlef> zvacet, what msg do you get
[08:41] <zvacet> atlef: it take me to the ubuntu logo with 5 dots and that is it
[08:42] <zvacet> atlef: I tried to press enter to get message but no luck
[08:43] <atlef> zvacet, hmm
[08:44] <atlef> zvacet, try to repeat the question and see if anyone else knows
[08:44] <Fudge> anyone use live-build, not sure how to fix packge probs, paste here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1551287/
[08:44] <dr_willis> zvacet:  if you use the nosplash option, and verbose kernel options - it may disable that splash stuff so you see any error messages
[08:46] <skp1> im back, i forgot to mention that my /home partition was encrypted..would that cause problems?
[08:46] <benedict> #ubuntu-offtopic is not logged?
[08:47] <zvacet> dr_willis: what exactly  I have to add and in witch file
[08:48] <Tecan> is there some way to make only the hal realtime ?
[08:48] <Tecan> or how does that work
[08:49] <dr_willis> zvacet:   you could edit the grub menu when yu boot and change 'quiet splash' to be 'noquiet nosplash verbose'   and it Might show some messages  when it hangs.. or its possble you need to edit /etc/default/grub and make the options the default (theres a quiet splash line to change) then rerun update-grub
[08:49] <Tecan> when its a realtime kernel whats special in the kernel to make it faster
[08:49] <XtremeWiz> Hi, how can I find the mac address on Ubuntu?
[08:49] <XtremeWiz> ipconfig, iconfig -a, etc. didn't work
[08:49] <dr_willis> its not really 'faster' tecan but  quicker to respond to  specific kinds of events i belive.
[08:49] <skp1> can someone tell me how to automount an encrypted /home partition as my home?
[08:49] <Tecan> oh
[08:49] <TakeItEZ> Tecan: a realtime kernel doesn't make it faster, it just reacts in a predictible timespan
[08:50] <Tecan> does frequency scaling still work ?
[08:50] <dr_willis> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr f4:6d:04:9e:90:62
[08:50] <dr_willis> HWaddr = Mac i thought
[08:50] <TakeItEZ> dr_willis: right you are
[08:51] <dr_willis> skp1:   Your home is currently encrypted?
[08:51] <XtremeWiz> dr_willis: How do I do that?
[08:51] <dr_willis> XtremeWiz:  its right there in the ifconfig info
[08:51] <\\Mr_C\\> what file contains the info config to change for a wireless ssid and wep pass in linux ubuntu?
[08:51] <dr_willis> $ ifconfig
[08:51] <dr_willis> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr f4:6d:04:9e:90:62
[08:52] <skp1> dr_willis: the one i want to use, yes
[08:52] <skp1> sorry, i should have mentioned that
[08:52] <auronandace> !wep | \\Mr_C\\
[08:52] <dr_willis> skp1:  no idea really - theres an existing fstab entry  for your /home/ from befor?
[08:55] <zvacet> dr_willis: brb
[08:56] <TakeItEZ> skp1: isn't the encrypted-home thingy handled by login-procedure? fstab shouldn't have any info on that
[08:59] <skp1> TakeItEZ: i dunno how it is handled. the /home drive is from a previous installation and i want to use it for my new installation
[08:59] <vhadil_> ks
[09:00] <skp1> anyone?
[09:06] <dr_willis> id login normally. and if you can get to your stuff..  copy it to  the 'newhome/yourusername' directory
[09:19] <chuxxsss> Anyone got steam to work with two monitors on ubuntu
[09:19] <knittl> anybody got two monitors working in ubuntu …?
[09:19] <knittl> I have a really annoying bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/727112 does anyone have any ideas what the issue might be or how to properly troubleshoot this problem?
[09:19] <chuxxsss> knittl, Yes
[09:20] <dr_willis> Used 2 monitors all the time time with my  nvidia cards
[09:20] <knittl> any idea what might be the issue with my system?
[09:20] <Ben64> maybe if you gave more information
[09:20] <knittl> what more do you need? The bug report contains plenty of it
[09:20] <dr_willis> could be a bug with the nvidia drivers.. we cant really tell ;)
[09:20] <chuxxsss> Anyone got steam to work with two monitors on ubuntu
[09:21] <dr_willis> Hm. dosent --> [Medium,Incomplete]  mean they want more info? or am i reading that wrong
[09:21] <chuxxsss> using intel chipset for graphics
[09:21] <dr_willis> work in what way chuxxsss ? what is it doing
[09:22] <knittl> I think incomplete simply means the report was not "confirmed"
[09:22] <Guest69944> hello
[09:22] <Ben64> knittl: have you tried 310
[09:22] <knittl> dr_willis: but I'm pretty much only talking with myself in that report
[09:22] <sinan> I have a broadcom 4313 wireless card, running on 12.04. It runs, but the link quality is much lower than another device in the same place, and the connection is worse than when windows is used. Any ideas?
[09:22] <knittl> Ben64: yes. I've tried -current, -current-updates, -experimental-304, and -experimental-310
[09:22] <Guest69944> please i want to connect my HDMI cable to my pc running ubuntu 12.10......the connection was successful but there is no sound on the tv
[09:23] <chuxxsss> the display drop back to the laptop screen which is the broken one as it is cracked. I have a 43 " samsung tv which I use to watch tv.
[09:23] <Guest69944> but if i use another pc running windows there is sound
[09:23] <knittl> Guest69944: have a look into sound preferences, maybe you have to set the correct output channel
[09:23] <dr_willis> Guest69944:  i have had to twiddle with the pavucontrol tool to select hdmi audio out on some systems
[09:23] <Guest69944> @willis how do u do it
[09:23] <dr_willis> pavucontrol
[09:23] <dr_willis> run pavucontrol   twiddles with till it worked. ;)
[09:24] <dr_willis> but that was on 12.04,, under 12.10 i think it worked properly for me
[09:24] <Guest69944> u mean on my terminal i should run pavucontrol
[09:24] <Ben64> knittl: it might be a problem with video memory
[09:24] <chuxxsss> I get the sound stopping on HDMI to restart after first boot. Guest69944
[09:25] <knittl> Ben64: how? also, it worked before with the old drivers (-173) and it works with nouveau most of the time
[09:25] <chuxxsss> back to my problem, if I fix this there will be one system in our family to rule them all
[09:25] <DrCode> hi all
[09:26] <DrCode> I can't use hd7700 in ubuntu 12.04 , any idea?
[09:26] <Guest69944> hello any body with solution why there is no sound on the tv after connecting the hdmi to my pc
[09:26] <chuxxsss> Is there a Steam tread
[09:26] <knittl> Ben64: storing a bitmap with the resolution of my monitors is just a few MB
[09:26] <Guest69944> it works on windows without any problem
[09:26] <knittl> Guest69944: go to sound options and select HDMI out
[09:26] <chuxxsss> Yes
[09:26] <chuxxsss> Guest69944 reboot first
[09:27] <chuxxsss> I have the same setup
[09:27] <atlef> !steam
[09:27] <knittl> Ben64: apart from that: it works with another monitor with an even higher resolution
[09:27] <chuxxsss> dr_willis,
[09:28] <knittl> see the last bug-comment for this
[09:28] <Ben64> knittl: seems like its a problem with that monitor then
[09:28] <Ben64> it might be giving some weird edid stuff
[09:28] <knittl> yeah. can I tell the kernel/the drivers to ignore EDID?
[09:28] <Ben64> yes
[09:28] <knittl> the other monitor does not give any EDID stuff
[09:28] <knittl> how? :)
[09:28] <Ben64> dunno, heh
[09:29] <Ben64> http://analogbit.com/fix_nvidia_edid
[09:30] <atlef> Ben64, thx for that link
[09:31] <Guest69944> thanks guys will try that and get back to y'all
[09:31] <purezen> Hey guys..!! I am planning to get the Samsung ARM chromebook to run Ubuntu.. would that be worth doing..?
[09:31] <purezen>  Any limitations I might face...?
[09:32] <fedor> I have a question about chromium. It is closing whenever I try to open it. What is wrong
[09:32] <dr_willis> fedor:  run it from terminal. look for error messages
[09:32] <dr_willis> fedor:  also you may want to try its failsafe or default modes and not load any extensions, or reset it back to defaults
[09:33] <fedor> to dr_willis: how can i run it in terminal
[09:33] <dr_willis> fedor:  type its name..
[09:33] <dr_willis> chromium  i belive...
[09:33] <zvacet> dr_willis: I have to blacklist floppy and update initramfs to be able to reboot or shutdown
[09:33] <dr_willis> zvacet:  your system has an actual floppy? ;)
[09:34] <zvacet> dr_willis: no but this is not first time that I get error I/O for non existing floppy
[09:35] <west> how do I save applications that are open so that when i restart they open up automatically.
[09:35] <dr_willis> zvacet:  or perhaps disable it in bios. if you have a floppy controller but no real drive
[09:35] <fedor> Flash performs poorly in Ubuntu, is it so? When I am in chromium or mozilla i have problems interacting with flashbased applications.
[09:35] <skp1> i have an encrypted home partition that iw ould like to use on my new install, can someone help me?
[09:35] <zvacet> dr_willis: smart thinking  :)
[09:35] <dr_willis> fedor:  depens on so many things - farmville works here. but theres other people that cant even get flas working at all.
[09:36] <zvacet> dr_willis: where in bios I can do that
[09:36] <dr_willis> zvacet:  no idea. :) i havent used a system with a floppy in years
[09:36] <fedor> well it works but my actions are retarded so to say
[09:36] <dr_willis> plus theres only like 10000 diffent bios's and layouts for it. :0
[09:37] <zvacet> dr_willis: I don´t have it but probably bios is reading it it is 4 years old comp
[09:37] <fedor> go to advanced and from there choose CDRom as a first device for booting
[09:37]  * dr_willis goes to farmville to check on his crops
[09:37] <dr_willis> ;)
[09:38] <dr_willis> id be suprised at a 4 yr old computer that has floppy stuff in it
that is sad
[09:38] <dr_willis> now a 14 yr old..
[09:38] <zvacet> dr_willis: any way blacklist is doing it job I also tried to put back to quiet splash but no luck
[09:38] <dr_willis> I have computers older then many of the people in here. ;)
[09:39] <dr_willis> zvacet:  i always keep noquiet nosplash. I hate the silly plymouth stuff
[09:39] <dr_willis> if theres a big error message i do want to see it. ;)
[09:39] <fedor> i have my hard drive constantly working for 7 years
[09:39] <histo> fedor: chromium-browser  to launch it from a terminal
[09:39] <zvacet> dr_willis: I experienced that just now
[09:40] <zvacet> dr_willis	: ok  tnx for your time and advice  ;)
[09:41] <skp1> i have an encrypted home partition that iw ould like to use on my new install, can someone help me?
[09:43] <histo> !encrypt > akp
[09:43] <histo> !encrypt > skp1
[09:44] <scyld> hello!
[09:45] <scyld> is it possible that - if I use my computer between 09:00 and 21:00 only - jobs from /etc/cron.daily will never run?
[09:46] <scyld> because they are started only at 6:XX
[09:46] <TakeItEZ> scyld: if you don't have anacron installed, yes
[09:46] <scyld> I have
[09:46] <scyld> but it is not running
[09:46] <TakeItEZ> scyld: it should care about those jobs
[09:46] <scyld> at what time ?
[09:46] <scyld> where is anacron started if it is not running as a daemon?
[09:47] <TakeItEZ> scyld: check /etc/anacrontab
[09:47] <histo> scyld: it runs it's jobs and then exits
[09:47] <scyld> histo: but where it is started?
[09:48] <scyld> I can't find that
[09:49] <histo> scyld: my guess would be set to run on startup look for an upstart job
[09:49] <scyld> I have anacron i /etc/cron.d but it starts at 7:30 ... so it will not start at all if I start my computer at 9...
[09:51] <TakeItEZ> scyld: anacron is started at boottime and reads/runs /etc/anacrontab. on 24/7 systems it is also run once a day started by cron
[09:51] <histo> scyld: /etc/init/anacron.conf
[09:51] <scyld> ok, tnx :>
[09:53] <scyld> and what if I put anacron in /etc/cron.hourly? Will it break anything?
[09:53] <TakeItEZ> scyld: no but it makes no sense
[09:54] <scyld> just an experiment ;)
[09:56] <GFfox> hello
[09:56] <TakeItEZ> scyld: it will read time/date of last run from /var/spool/anacron/* and just do nothing
[09:57] <scyld> the problem is I need one job to be started every day and anacron, I think will not do it for me. If it fires at boottime that job at 9:15 it will not fire it up next day at 8:55, right?
[09:58] <TakeItEZ> scyld: you still do not understand how anacron works
[09:58] <scyld> but when I add it to /etc/cron.hourly it will fire that job at 10:00
[09:58] <thunder1212> hi i have a netgear wna1000m wifi card and i want to share my internet connection thrugh it plz help..