[00:27] <airurando> Only NUIG kindly asked not to receive CDs because they did not feel it would be the best use of those CDs.
[10:39] <daxroc> Morning all
[11:49] <dusf> didn't launchpad used to give us the option to post a new bug after searching to see if it already existed?
[11:50] <dusf> my bad
[12:18] <slashtom> curious. i'm reading up on what happened in the irc meeting last night. i didn't realise that it happened yesterday afternoon
[12:18] <slashtom> "Meeting started by ebel at 14:06
[12:20] <ebel> slashtom: MootBot is not on WET
[12:21] <slashtom> but it doesn't look like UTC either
[12:22] <ebel> it isn't UTC either
[12:22] <ebel> (and WET = UTC (essentially))
[12:23] <ebel> It's a known issue with MootBot.
[13:13] <tdr112> afternoon all
[13:24] <slashtom> hello tdr112
[13:30] <tdr112> hey slashtom , how was your trip
[13:32] <slashtom> meh, a waste of 13 days annual leave tbh
[13:33] <tdr112> ah feck
[13:35] <slashtom> the place felt very english, which IMO is not a good thing
[13:35] <slashtom> anyways, the exams over yet?
[13:38] <tdr112> yep over, doing some c code now , i have an interview tomorrow for a job using c
[13:40] <slashtom> deadly, good luck!
[13:40] <tdr112> its been a while since i did just c,  so code code code now until tomorrow
[13:45] <slashtom> you'll be fine. and if you're not sure of the answer to a question be honest
[13:49] <ebel> cool
[13:49] <ebel> tdr112: good luck
[13:49] <tdr112> thanks guys
[14:01] <daxroc> Damn linux in the browser, http://bellard.org/jslinux/
[14:09] <tdr112> event added http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/989/detail/
[16:05] <czajkowski> Aloha
[16:07] <tdr112> Evening Miss cztab
[16:07] <czajkowski> just tweeted
[16:07] <czajkowski> how's you tdr112
[16:08] <tdr112> doing a bit of c now, used the loco dir for the first time today to make an event
[16:09] <czajkowski> I saw
[16:09] <czajkowski> :D
[16:10] <tdr112> is this the start of the end ? :)
[16:11] <czajkowski> no that'll be when you create your wiki page :D
[16:12] <czajkowski> final step will be adding your name to wiki meeting
[16:24] <daxroc> When's the meeting for re-approval ?
[16:25] <czajkowski> when ever the team is ready
[16:25] <czajkowski> they can either A) mail their application in
[16:25] <czajkowski> or
[16:25] <czajkowski> B) add their application to the meeting
[16:26] <tdr112> czajkowski: if your free on sat drop into irc
[16:26] <czajkowski> tdr112: I will be
[16:33] <tdr112>  http://www.tog.ie/2011/05/ubuntu-rocks/
[16:41] <czajkowski> lol


[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82050 in gaim (main) "GAIM crashed for no apparent reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82050
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82051 in popularity-contest (main) "popularity counts default packages in "voting"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82051
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82052 in gnome-screensaver (main) "possible security issue with locked screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82052
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82054 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in camel_index_add_name()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82054
[12:42] <enyc> Im running into trouble weith console in edgy -- after "setting preliminary keymap" (scipt that rens setupcon) .. I find that capslock state works.. but newer lights the caps led on the keyboard... note that in xorg xserver the num and caps lock light work fine as usual! but nota at console.. and I HAVE done dpkg-reconfigure on console-setup !
[12:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82053 in gaim (main) "Gaim crashes on login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82053
[01:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82055 in Ubuntu "network-admin crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82055
[01:07] <xlizer> hey, regarding the bug about smb networks in nautilus... there was a fix apparantly, but I have no idea how to implement it
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82057 in apport (main) "[apport]  apport-gtk crashed with AssertionError in run_crash()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82057
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82059 in bzr-svn (universe) "Massive memory use on some operations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82059
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82060 in firefox (main) "A web page Firefox can't print." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82060
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82061 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed at about 90% - two attempts made" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82061
[03:47] <TheMuso> c
[04:00] <marnanel> c++
[04:16] <TheMuso> c
[04:16] <TheMuso> damn kvm
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82063 in firefox (main) "/tmp/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.k15d0H.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82063
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82064 in control-center (main) "in a rare situation, I am able to rebind letters on the keyboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82064
[04:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82065 in control-center (main) "I am able to rebind Backspace or Enter key in keybinding capplet" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82065
[05:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82067 in control-center (main) "In the keybinding capplet, when I bind "prev track" keybinding to "Ctrl+Alt+LeftArrow" this breaks the Left Arrow key throughout Gnome" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82067
[06:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82068 in scribus (main) "[apport]  scribus crashed with SIGSEGV in ??()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82068
[06:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82069 in texmaker (universe) "texmaker: Merge new debian version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82069
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82070 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "gnome-system-monitor crashes on help request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82070
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82072 in banshee (universe) "When I try to access the Web Resources" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82072
[07:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82071 in cryptsetup (universe) "patch needed to boot with lvm on top of luks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82071
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82073 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82073
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82077 in gnome-media (main) "[apport]  gnome-volume-control crashed with SIGSEGV in ??()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82077
[08:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82075 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Pound sign lost when sending email in ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82075
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82076 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution-alarm-notify crashed with SIGSEGV in g_hash_table_lookup()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82076
[08:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82078 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82078
[08:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82080 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "[Feisty]  linux-restricted-modules comes with fglrx kernel module 8.32.5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82080
[09:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82081 in fail2ban (universe) "fail2ban: merge new debian version (0.7.6-3)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82081
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82082 in cdrkit (main) "herd2. wodim couldn't be set suid." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82082
[09:11] <dholbach> good morning
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82083 in evolution (main) "evolution hangs on big multipart attachments" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82083
[09:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82084 in Ubuntu "fglrx on feisty breaks consoles" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82084
[09:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82085 in tsclient (main) "Confusing tooltip" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82085
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82088 in network-manager (main) "Manual TCP/IP settings overidden by roaming" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82088
[10:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82087 in gaphor (universe) "gaphor: merge new debian version (0.8.1-5.1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82087
[10:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82089 in gnome-terminal (main) "gnome-terminal seg faults while upgrading to edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82089
[10:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82091 in update-notifier (main) "update-notifier dies while upgrading dapper to edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82091
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82092 in network-manager (main) "bug report generated by nm-applet while upgrading from dapper to edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82092
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82093 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82093
[10:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82094 in kubuntu-meta (main) "USB safe unmount from desktop data corruption" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82094
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82096 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82096
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82095 in xorg-server (main) "nvidia resolution and 3d not initialised properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82095
[10:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82097 in geany (universe) "Geany will not stop running" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82097
[10:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82098 in gnome-speech (main) "Easy install of proprietary voice synthesizers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82098
[11:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82099 in Ubuntu "Sounds are taken over by java programs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82099
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82100 in totem (main) "[Feisty] Goom visualisation glitch in totem-xine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82100
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82101 in gftp (main) "gftp crashes while deleting many files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82101
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82102 in Ubuntu "headphone jack sense fails on resume" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82102
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82103 in kdegraphics (main) "kghostview replaced by kpdf in edgy, works badly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82103
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82104 in popularity-contest (main) "popularity-contest in dapper has the same HOSTID for ubiquity installs" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82104
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82105 in ion3 (universe) "new version available (20061223)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82105
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82106 in firefox (main) "/var/crash/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82106
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82107 in scim (main) "Scim launcher reported as crashing on start of FF" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82107
[12:11] <compengi> oops =/
[12:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82108 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "forcedeth changes MAC address after suspend/resume" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82108
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82109 in xorg (main) "tablet stylus buttons default values are not the expected ones" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82109
[12:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82110 in xorg (main) "xinput clients receive input even when the window manager is getting mouse input" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82110
[12:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82111 in gnome-panel (main) "panel applets are messed up after xrandr rotation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82111
[01:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82113 in network-manager (main) "network-manager lacks 802.1x ethernet support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82113
[01:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82112 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__() (dup-of: 81835)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82112
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82114 in mono (main) "after unlocking screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82114
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82115 in Ubuntu "Impossible installation of printer with kdeprint (feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82115
[01:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82116 in firefox (main) "firefox close without message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82116
[01:51] <seb128> pochu: around?
[01:51] <pochu> seb128: sure :)
[01:52] <seb128> pochu: I've just noticed that apparently you are working on tracker
[01:52] <seb128> which is great
[01:52] <seb128> you could notify the person who did the previous upload when starting working on a package though
[01:52] <seb128> to make sure we don't dup work, etc
[01:52] <pochu> seb128: I sent a message to the debian mantainer
[01:53] <seb128> well, I'm not the Debian maintainer
[01:53] <pochu> but didn't know about mailing the last uploader
[01:53] <pochu> thanks for the tip
[01:53] <seb128> well, the Debian maintainer doesn't maintain that package for Ubuntu
[01:53] <seb128> np
[01:53] <seb128> are you a MOTU? or do you need a sponsor for the upload?
[01:54] <seb128> the 0.5.4 Debian package is already available on debs.michaelbiebl.de:/dists/unstable/main/source
[01:54] <seb128> do you have changes on top of that package?
[01:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82117 in openoffice.org (main) "Please update to 2.1 (Edgy and Dapper) (dup-of: 78482)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82117
[01:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82119 in eboard (universe) "Please sync eboard (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82119
[01:56] <pochu> seb128: I'm not a motu
[01:56] <pochu> not yet ;)
[02:00] <seb128> pochu: any change you want to make on top of that Debian package? I want to update tracker today
[02:00] <pochu> seb128: sorry, i have a problem with a tranlation...
[02:00] <pochu> seb128: no problem with the package
[02:01] <seb128> pochu: np, reply later if you want
[02:01] <pochu> just have you noticed the new dep right?
[02:01] <pochu> build-dep
[02:01] <seb128> I can sponsor your upload if you have one
[02:01] <seb128> well, I expect the Debian maintainer did
[02:01] <seb128> I didn't look at his package yet but I will
[02:01] <pochu> seb128: I haven't it yet
[02:01] <pochu> if you want to do it yourself, do it :)
[02:01] <pochu> but if you can wait a little, I would like to do it
[02:01] <gnomefreak> mvo: i think i got all the dbus crashes from update-manager all marks as dupe of bug 81835
[02:01] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81835 in update-manager "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81835
[02:02] <seb128> pochu: I'll wait for your update, ping me when it's ready and I'll review it and upload if it's correct
[02:02] <pochu> seb128: thanks! going to do it right now :)
[02:02] <seb128> np, thank you for working on it ;)
[02:03] <mvo> gnomefreak: great, thanks. I uploaded a new version that fixes the issue
[02:03] <gnomefreak> cool ty :)
[02:03] <gnomefreak> its gonna be a while before i can test it though
[02:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82120 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__() (dup-of: 81835)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82120
[02:05] <seb128> mvo: the g-a-i problem as well?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> g-a-i == the autoremove?
[02:06] <seb128> gnomefreak: no, gnome-app-install which crashes to dbus as well
[02:06] <gnomefreak> oh i didnt know it did
[02:07] <mvo> seb128: about to be uploaded
[02:07] <mvo> gnomefreak: what autoremove problem?
[02:07] <seb128> that is great with mvo
[02:07] <seb128> you ping him about something
[02:08] <seb128> and you don't hear back from him
[02:08] <gnomefreak> mvo: i thought he meant the edgy autoremove wanting to remove everything
[02:08] <seb128> he just fixes things without letting you know :p
[02:08] <mvo> gnomefreak: this shouldn't be triggered by g-a-i.
[02:09] <mvo> seb128: better than not fixing things without letting you know ;)
[02:09] <seb128> right :p
[02:09] <seb128> mvo: should https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/81835 be closed then?
[02:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81835 in update-manager "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[02:09] <gnomefreak> figured that when he said app-install
[02:11] <mvo> seb128: yes, I will close it
[02:11] <seb128> cool
[02:12] <mvo> seb128: and g-a-i is now uploaded as well :)
[02:12] <seb128> mvo: maybe we will manage to do that EasyCodecInstallation call for testing now :p
[02:14] <mvo> yes :)
[02:14] <seb128> mvo: was that due to some dbus change?
[02:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82121 in openoffice.org-voikko (universe) "currently uninstallable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82121
[02:17] <mvo> seb128: yes
[02:17] <seb128> k
[02:17] <mvo> python-dbus seems to be a bit volatile currently :)
[02:18] <seb128> it has been rewritten apparently
[02:19] <seb128> from pyrex to C
[02:19] <mvo> right
[02:19] <mvo> that makes sense
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82122 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash during java applet load" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82122
[02:36] <pochu> seb128: ping?
[02:36] <seb128> pochu: pong
[02:36] <pochu> seb128: should I add a new entry in the changelog, and change the version to 0.5.4-1ubuntu1?
[02:36] <seb128> correct
[02:36] <pochu> ok
[02:36] <pochu> thanks :)
[02:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82123 in bash (main) "bash (feisty) is not freeing memory of backticked output" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82123
[02:38] <seb128> np
[02:39] <pochu> seb128: I haven't done any change, what do I put in the changelog? "Uploaded to Ubuntu"? :)
[02:39] <seb128> looks fine yep
[02:39] <pochu> I'm a little noob :)
[02:39] <pochu> thanks!
[02:39] <seb128> you can add a mention of the lp bug about the new version
[02:39] <seb128> like lp #nnnn
[02:39] <pochu> oh, good
[02:39] <pochu> and closes
[02:39] <pochu> :)
[02:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82124 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "HP NetServer LP1000R NetRaid (megaraid) panics" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82124
[02:46] <seb128> pochu: don't use "closes", it's for Debian and we don't want to use the same keyword
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82125 in netris (universe) "netris crashes on startup (amd64)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82125
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82126 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82126
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82127 in fvwm (universe) "fvwm2 in AMD64 shows GNOME desktop as a window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82127
[03:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82128 in kdepim (main) "kontact/kmail crash when I try to view an event acceptance email" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82128
[03:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82130 in Ubuntu "small untitled window on Desktop that will not close" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82130
[03:21] <sfllaw> mikebro, cburg: Please work with bdmurray in #ubuntu-bugs on finding bugs with no packages and finding them the right ones.
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82129 in update-manager (main) "update-manager will not run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82129
[03:22] <mikebro> sfllaw: Alright
[03:36] <pochu> seb128: ping?
[03:36] <seb128> pochu: pong
[03:36] <pochu> seb128: what can I use instead of closes?
[03:36] <seb128> pochu: lp #nnnn
[03:37] <pochu> ok, thanks
[03:37] <seb128> np
[03:37] <pochu> seb128: "  * Uploaded to Ubuntu (Launchpad #81800)"?
[03:37] <seb128> by example
[03:37] <pochu> :)
[03:37] <seb128> we don't have automatic close at the moment
[03:38] <seb128> so the syntax doesn't make a real difference
[03:38] <pochu> does debian has it?
[03:38] <pochu> didn't know :)
[03:40] <coNP> hi pochu, seb128
[03:40] <pochu> hi coNP!
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82131 in Ubuntu "totem and totem-mozilla dependency problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82131
[03:41] <seb128> pochu: yep, and we should get it for Ubuntu soon too
[03:41] <seb128> Hi coNP
[03:41] <pochu> seb128: that would be nice!
[03:41] <pochu> who works in that, launchpad developers?
[03:41] <coNP> what do you mean by automatic close?
[03:42] <coNP> (or isn't it the cool feature?)
[03:43] <seb128> launchpad parsing the changelog and sending a mail to the bug with the changelog entry and close command
[03:43] <seb128> like
[03:43] <seb128> - new tracker upstream version (lp #nnnn)
[03:43] <seb128> and bug #nnnn is automatically closed when you upload the package
[03:43] <seb128> with a copy of the changelog for the upload which fixes it
[03:43] <pochu> seb128: is there any spec about it?
[03:43] <seb128> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClosingBugsFromChangelog?highlight=%28changelog%29
[03:44] <pochu> thanks :)
[03:44] <coNP> seb128, cool
[03:44] <seb128> np
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82132 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "Auto-detect from live-cd ubuntu 6.10 isn't working correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82132
[03:46] <pochu> building :)
[03:48] <coNP> pochu, what are you fixing now?
[03:48] <pochu> bug 81800
[03:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81800 in tracker "New upstream release: 0.5.4" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81800
[03:48] <pochu> coNP: do you remember
[03:48] <pochu> ?
[03:48] <coNP> yep, sure
[03:48] <pochu> :)
[03:49] <pochu> seb has helped me
[03:49] <bddebian> Boo
[03:57] <pochu> seb128: doing a debdiff against 0.5.3 gives a 1.1MB diff, I think that's too much, right? Maybe I should do a debdiff against debian 0.5.4?
[03:57] <seb128> why do you do a debdiff?
[03:57] <seb128> put the .diff.gz and the .dsc somewhere
[03:57] <seb128> that's enough
[03:57] <pochu> because with other package a motu told me to do it
[03:57] <pochu> :)
[03:58] <pochu> I'm uploading it to the bug
[03:58] <seb128> well, no need for that one
[04:00] <pochu> seb128: bug 81800 :)
[04:00] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81800 in tracker "New upstream release: 0.5.4" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81800
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82134 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Kvm module in latest kernel is out of sync with kvm binary" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82134
[04:08] <mikebro> bdmurray: cburg and myself are fairly new to triaging bugs and we were wondering what we could do to help with the bugs with no assigned package
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82135 in earth3d (universe) "[apport]  earth3d crashed with SIGSEGV in viaGetLock()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82135
[04:15] <seb128> pochu: uploaded
[04:16] <pochu> seb128: thanks! :)
[04:16] <seb128> np, thank you for the work on it
[04:16] <dholbach> bughelper people: can someone review the patch for bug 79218? :))
[04:16] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 79218 in bughelper "RFE: Write manpages for bughelper suite" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79218
[04:17] <coNP> dholbach, I will have a look at it
[04:17] <dholbach> coNP: ROCK - thanks
[04:17] <coNP> oh, sorry :) I'am not fully bughelper compatible now
[04:18] <dholbach> coNP: oh? how comes?
[04:18] <seb128> dholbach: is there any need for Build-Depends-Indep when the package is arch all?
[04:18] <bdmurray> mikebro: the first step would be getting enough information to associate the bug with a package.  then assigning it to the right package.
[04:18] <dholbach> seb128: good question
[04:19] <dholbach> seb128: it probably shouldn't matter at all
[04:19] <dholbach> seb128: but I don't think the policy has something against it
[04:19] <coNP> dholbach, I am not  a real bughellper guy, only a wannabe
[04:19] <seb128> ok, what I thought, I'm never sure of when to use Indep (I almost never use it) though :p
[04:19] <dholbach> coNP: that's a good start
[04:20] <coNP> dholbach, you mean being a wannabe or RTFM? :)
[04:20] <dholbach> coNP: being a wannabe is a good start
[04:20] <dholbach> coNP: and I'm glad you want to help out with bughelper
[04:22] <mikebro> bdmurray: Alright, thanks.
[04:23] <pochu> coNP: what is rtfm?
[04:24] <bdmurray> mikebro: if you have any questions about specific bugs feel free to ask
[04:25] <dholbach> pochu: read the f(ine/ucking) manual
[04:26] <pochu> :)
[04:26] <dholbach> sudo apt-get install bsdgames && wtf rtfm
[04:27] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi all
[04:27] <dholbach> hi Le-Chuck_ITA
[04:27] <pochu> hi
[04:28] <Le-Chuck_ITA> https://launchpad.net/gdm/+bug/35217
[04:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 35217 in gdm "Unable to login when disk space is exhausted" [Unknown,In progress]
[04:28] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I think I can fix that in /etc/init.d/gdm
[04:28] <Le-Chuck_ITA> by mounting a ramfs
[04:28] <Le-Chuck_ITA> but do some of you know how to make gdm use a subdirectory of /tmp instead of /tmp itself?
[04:29] <gnomefreak> dholbach: mozillateam is havinga meeting in -meetings on feb 5th 20:00UTC if interested. also goes for anyone else interested
[04:29] <dholbach> gnomefreak: was there a big announce which went to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>too?
[04:29] <pochu> I'll try to be there
[04:29] <gnomefreak> not yet i have to get a few things together first beofre i do that
[04:30] <dholbach> but do it :)
[04:31] <gnomefreak> will do in the next day or so. i need to ping a fridge guy and get it confirmed first
[04:31] <Le-Chuck_ITA> no gdm experts around? :)
[04:33] <pochu> mvo_: ping?
[04:33] <coNP> Le-Chuck_ITA, is it really wanted,
[04:33] <coNP> no offense, but I am not sure why allow users this?
[04:33] <coNP> why not tell them delete some files?
[04:34] <coNP> or you want a session only for this?
[04:35] <pochu> !info smart feisty
[04:35] <ubotu> Package smart does not exist in feisty
[04:35] <pochu> !info smart
[04:35] <ubotu> Package smart does not exist in any distro I know
[04:35] <Le-Chuck_ITA> coNP:
[04:35] <gnomefreak> pochu: its smartpm
[04:35] <pochu> oh, thanks
[04:35] <pochu> :)
[04:35] <Le-Chuck_ITA> it is difficult to teach users to use the console
[04:35] <gnomefreak> pochu: and its the .5 version
[04:35] <pochu> !info smartpm feisty
[04:35] <Le-Chuck_ITA> to delete files
[04:35] <ubotu> smartpm: An alternative package manager that works with dpkg/rpm. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.50~rc1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 44 kB, installed size 336 kB
[04:35] <Le-Chuck_ITA> and
[04:35] <gnomefreak> and it works great
[04:35] <pochu> gnomefreak: do you know if 0.50 has been uploaded?
[04:35] <Le-Chuck_ITA> you always should be able to login
[04:35] <pochu> 0.50 final
[04:35] <gnomefreak> pochu: yes
[04:35] <gnomefreak> no
[04:36] <gnomefreak> not final
[04:36] <pochu> because I wanted to package it
[04:36] <gnomefreak> not sure if final was released yet
[04:36] <pochu> but Michael vogt is the mantainer
[04:36] <pochu> it is
[04:36] <pochu> bug 81823
[04:36] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81823 in smart "Smart package manager 0.50 final was released on 2007 Jan 15 - please update packages" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81823
[04:37] <gnomefreak> in progress means someone is working on it. either mvo_ or seb h.
[04:37] <pochu> gnomefreak: what should I do? package it? I've pinged mvo
[04:37] <pochu> I marked it as in progress
[04:37] <pochu> did I do it wrong?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> pochu: before doing that please check the status first it may be done already or cant be done for some reason
[04:38] <pochu> gnomefreak: ok
[04:38] <gnomefreak> if they look at it they wont build it because it means someone is already
[04:39] <pochu> gnomefreak: it isn't in the archive
[04:39] <pochu> I'll try to talk to mvo
[04:39] <gnomefreak> pochu: doesnt mean its not in thier pbuilder :)
[04:39] <gnomefreak> just means it hasnt been accepted
[04:39] <pochu> oh, that's right :)
[04:40] <dholbach> seb128: when are you going to share your shiny new script? :)
[04:40] <pochu> seb128: are you with smart 0.50?
[04:40] <dholbach> pochu: mvo_ is our smart expert
[04:40] <gnomefreak> pochu: i didnt mean that seb
[04:40] <pochu> oh
[04:40] <pochu> :)
[04:40] <pochu> then sorry :)
[04:40] <seb128> pochu: "smart"?
[04:40] <pochu> smart package manager
[04:41] <seb128> no, I use apt-get or update-manager
[04:41] <dholbach> lord, we have a bunch of gaim crashes
[04:41] <gnomefreak> seb128: smartpm
[04:41] <pochu> Maintainer: Michael Vogt
[04:41] <pochu> mvo, right?
[04:41] <gnomefreak> and i am looking at something and seems seb h is only apt/synaptic not smart
[04:41] <seb128> dholbach: it's on my todo for this week, I've already copied it on my people page, I would like to fix some things before mailing about it though
[04:41] <gnomefreak> pochu: yes
[04:41] <pochu> [mvo_]  inactivo 00:40:46,
[04:41] <gnomefreak> pochu: he might be at lunch
[04:42] <dholbach> seb128: excellent - put it in bzr!!!! :)
[04:42] <gnomefreak> he was busy this morning working with python-dbus/update-manager
[04:42] <seb128> dholbach: will do, need to figure how to do that first
[04:42] <seb128> :)
[04:42] <dholbach> :-)
[04:43] <ogra_> huggers
[04:43] <mvo_> pochu: smart 0.50? its on my list to get a update done
[04:43] <gnomefreak> see damn
[04:43] <dholbach> seb128: we should give hugs for people updating clue files ;-)
[04:43] <ogra_> just have a towel ready :)
[04:43] <pochu> mvo_: then you should look at bug 81823
[04:43] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81823 in smart "Smart package manager 0.50 final was released on 2007 Jan 15 - please update packages" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81823
[04:43] <dholbach> seb128: especially the gaim one
[04:44] <seb128> clue file would not work fine on gaim :/
[04:44] <dholbach> seb128: why?
[04:44] <seb128> people tend to attach random crash files at random bugs
[04:44] <dholbach> hm
[04:44] <seb128> which means you often have 5 different crasher on the same bug
[04:44] <seb128> I comment like 10 times a week to say "if you are not sure open a new bug that's better"
[04:44] <dholbach> but at least you could say "attachment 657r4654565456 is msn bug 12356"
[04:44] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 12356 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Installer did not detect soundcard on Dell Latitude C610 (dup-of: 8012)" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12356
[04:44] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 8012 in linux-source-2.6.15 "other devices (sound, wireless?) fail to work when lp/parport modules are loaded due to IRQ conflict" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8012
[04:44] <seb128> right
[04:44] <gnomefreak> seb128: ive noticed that alot lately
[04:44] <dholbach> Ubugtu: it was an example
[04:45] <seb128> gnomefreak: it happens especially for gaim, dunno why
[04:45] <gnomefreak> firefox too
[04:45] <pochu> mvo_: I'm assigned to that bug, do you want me to assign you?
[04:45] <gnomefreak> i had one guy attach his crash reports to 8 bugs
[04:45] <dholbach> gaim users believe in cosmic rays :)
[04:47] <gnomefreak> i tell them to file a bug report on thier own and we will fix it if it is a dupe
[04:47] <pochu> hey guys! one question: after herd3 release, what is the dev team going to do?
[04:48] <gnomefreak> pochu: continue what they are doing now?
[04:48] <pochu> gnomefreak: but isn't main freeze?
[04:48] <mvo_> pochu: why are you assigned to it? are you a motu?
[04:48] <pochu> close?
[04:48] <pochu> mvo_: I'm not, I'm a newbie :)
[04:49] <pochu> I'm a bugfighter!!! :)
[04:50] <gnomefreak> main will freeze during herd releases but the freeze will be released after herd is released. you might be thinking of main merges freeze
[04:50] <bdmurray> pochu: Yeah bugfighters!
[04:50] <pochu> :)
[04:50] <gnomefreak> 390 emails in 2 days :(
[04:50] <coNP> gnomefreak, when is freeze? is it possible to file a pacakge update request now? (for feisty)?
[04:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82140 in Ubuntu "Emblems just add clutter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82140
[04:50] <pochu> gnomefreak: I say because this: the release date for Herd 3 is drawing near and we are about to freeze
[04:50] <pochu> main.
[04:51] <gnomefreak> coNP: feature freeze is soon if not already
[04:51] <gnomefreak> pochu: for the release of herd3
[04:51] <pochu> oh, ok
[04:51] <gnomefreak> after its ready main will unfreeze
[04:51] <coNP> gnomefreak, who can tell if it is late or not?
[04:51] <coNP> gnomefreak, I mean to update a package
[04:51] <pochu> coNP: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule ?
[04:51] <gnomefreak> coNP: someone in here should or look at that link
[04:52] <bdmurray> dholbach: the clue files are a separate branch now right?
[04:52] <gnomefreak> coNP: has to be approved by feb 8th to be accepted i believe
[04:53] <coNP> gnomefreak, cool
[04:53] <coNP> plenty of time :)
[04:53] <gnomefreak> coNP: not really
[04:53] <dholbach> bdmurray: yes - the product is called bughelper-data
[04:53] <coNP> gnomefreak: oh, should be accepted too... is it difficult to get a package accepted?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> coNP: that would have to depend on package who is gonna maintain it and the use for it in ubuntu (unless its already a package)
[04:55] <coNP> gnomefreak, it is a package, I want to update it
[04:55] <coNP> gnomefreak, it is drupal in universe/web
[04:55] <gnomefreak> coNP: lets put it this way there is one spec that still hasnt been accepted yet and has been in writing since UDS
[04:55] <gnomefreak> coNP: get to writing it so they know about what has changed in versions so on an dso forth
[04:56] <mvo_> pochu: ok :) please reassign to me hten
[04:56] <pochu> mvo_ np
[04:56] <coNP> gnomefreak, sorry, I did not understand you
[04:56] <gnomefreak> coNP: hold on let me get the link
[04:57] <pochu> mvo_: done ;)
[04:57] <gnomefreak> ack coNP just file a bug. take a look at bug 81823 as an example
[04:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81823 in smart "Smart package manager 0.50 final was released on 2007 Jan 15 - please update packages" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81823
[04:58] <coNP> gnomefreak, I have don it
[04:58] <coNP> thx, gnomefreak
[04:58] <gnomefreak> coNP: than we wait for people to decide (hope the right people are subscribed
[05:00] <coNP> thx again, gnomefreak
[05:07] <dholbach> seb128: i'll look into the splitted branch and clue inheritance patches now
[05:07] <seb128> dholbach: rock on
[05:07] <dholbach> it'd be nice if somebody reviewed and pushed the manpages
[05:08] <dholbach> so we can update them every now and then
[05:08] <dholbach> ( https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/bughelper/2007-January/000007.html )
[05:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82141 in drupal (universe) "drupal 5.0 is out" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82141
[05:22] <bdmurray> dholbach: I'll check them out shortly
[05:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82142 in gnome-desktop (main) "Long delay of some applications at login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82142
[05:27] <dholbach> bdmurray: super
[05:30] <bdmurray> dholbach: this is the right branch for the clue files correct?
[05:30] <bdmurray> https://code.launchpad.net/~bugsquad/+branch/bughelper-data/main
[05:30] <dholbach> yes
[05:35] <bdmurray> dholbach: was there an e-mail or documentation about how to use that brach with bughelper.main ?
[05:35] <dholbach> no, not really
[05:35] <dholbach> i'll work on that in a bit
[05:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82144 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82144
[05:37] <bdmurray> okay, how would I use it in the mean time?
[05:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82143 in language-support-fi (main) "Add main-accepted Voikko packages to a seed, language-support-fi should depend on Voikko spellchecking libraries in 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82143
[05:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82145 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82145
[05:49] <pochu> seb128, around?
[05:49] <seb128> pochu: pong
[05:49] <pochu> seb128, could you take a look at bug 80778?
[05:49] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80778 in compiz "compiz does not show window boards or the cube" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80778
[05:54] <seb128> pochu: what about it?
[05:58] <pochu> seb128: look at my last comment :)
[06:00] <seb128> pochu: nothing useful, we have some thousand of desktop bugs open and that one is not my priority to work on
[06:00] <seb128> pochu: that doesn't look like a bug though
[06:00] <pochu> ok
[06:00] <pochu> :)
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82146 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in __pthread_mutex_unlock_usercnt()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82146
[06:00] <seb128> we changed the number of viewport and workspaces to match the GNOME config better
[06:00] <pochu> I'll try to play a little with the keys
[06:00] <seb128> which means no cube and workspaces
[06:00] <pochu> viewport?
[06:00] <seb128> 1 cube facer
[06:00] <seb128> face
[06:01] <seb128> and workspaces
[06:01] <seb128> like GNOME config
[06:01] <pochu> I'm not sure that's a good idea, but you are the devs ;)
[06:03] <seb128> having a difference of user experience between the standard config and the desktop effects doesn't make much sense
[06:03] <seb128> especially that the cube effect is nice for demo effect but not really useful
[06:04] <seb128> the cube is pretty confusing since the workspace switcher applet doesn't work with it
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82147 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu Feisty sound card selection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82147
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82148 in ubiquity (main) "fiest fawn herd 2 installer crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82148
[06:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82149 in kqemu (multiverse) "When using kqemu, rtc: lost some interrupts at 1024Hz." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82149
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82153 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82153
[06:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82151 in evolution (main) "Major problems with Exchange integration." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82151
[06:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82152 in acroread (multiverse) "Acroread doesn't respect gtk2 color theme (bookmarks are white on white)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82152
[06:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82062 in Ubuntu "Ubutu CD will not load" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82062
[06:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82154 in pgadmin3 (universe) "Crash while copying marked lines to clipboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82154
[07:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82155 in mutt (main) "mutt sets Fcc: ~/sent by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82155
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82156 in kdenetwork (main) "krdc sends after one key press several keys" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82156
[07:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82157 in firefox (main) "Firefox often crash when it's rendering a new tab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82157
[07:50] <dholbach> yoohooo - another fixed bug in bughelper
[07:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82160 in boxes (universe) "[Sync Request]  Sync boxes (1.0.1a-2.2) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82160
[08:09] <devathpp> hello
[08:09] <devathpp> I am a newbie to ubuntu-bugs
[08:10] <devathpp> but a pretty old hand with kernel and application programming
[08:10] <devathpp> can any one help me with understanding how best i can contribute
[08:10] <devathpp> ?
[08:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82162 in php-auth-pam (universe) "[Sync Request]  Sync php-auth-pam (0.4-9.1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82162
[08:11] <DktrKranz> devathpp: you could start reading these pages
[08:11] <DktrKranz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad
[08:11] <DktrKranz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[08:11] <DktrKranz> also, join #ubuntu-bugs on jan 31st
[08:11] <devathpp> ok
[08:12] <DktrKranz> bug day will be on air
[08:12] <devathpp> is this the best way to get involved with ubantu
[08:12] <DktrKranz> it is an important one
[08:12] <pochu> dholbach: could you change the topic to announce the bug hug day? :)
[08:13] <devathpp> i guess, I'll start here
[08:13] <dholbach> is the next on wednesday?
[08:13] <pochu> not sure
[08:13] <DktrKranz> jan 31st
[08:13] <DktrKranz> wednesday
[08:13] <dholbach> ok, this is better
[08:13] <pochu> Next Hug day is 31 January 2007,
[08:14] <pochu> :)
[08:14] <DktrKranz> thanks daniel
[08:14] <dholbach> anytime :)
[08:14] <dholbach> i just pushed the patch for inheriting clues
[08:14] <dholbach> i have some huge patches pending
[08:14] <DktrKranz> what about bughelper?
[08:14] <devathpp> Is it advisable to patronize bugs towards a particular package ?
[08:14] <dholbach> DktrKranz: what?
[08:15] <DktrKranz> any big change?
[08:15] <devathpp> or better to be a generalist?
[08:15] <DktrKranz> i saw you uploaded docs :)
[08:15] <dholbach> i pushed a change a bit ago
[08:15] <dholbach> I didn't push docs just yet
[08:15] <dholbach> i thought somebody else did
[08:15] <DktrKranz> ah, ok
[08:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82163 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82163
[08:16] <dholbach> if not, push it yourself
[08:16] <dholbach> honestly... nobody complained about my suggestion on the bughelper list
[08:16] <devathpp> what time on wednesday?
[08:16] <dholbach> we should update documentation quickly
[08:16] <DktrKranz> yes
[08:16] <dholbach> devathpp: all day, all timezones
[08:18] <devathpp> ok
[08:22] <pochu> hi coNP! :)
[08:22] <coNP> hi pochu
[08:22] <coNP> finally @home
[08:23] <coNP> time to kick some bugs
[08:23] <pochu> coNP: do you finally have an exam on Wednesday?
[08:23] <coNP> :)
[08:23] <pochu> :)
[08:23] <coNP> actually, thursday
[08:23] <pochu> coNP: so you will be on the hug day :)
[08:24] <coNP> err... I have to study for my exam :)
[08:24] <dholbach> DktrKranz: you can push your change to bughelper.main if you like
[08:24] <coNP> but no way missing hug day :)
[08:24] <dholbach> DktrKranz: just! do! it!
[08:24] <DktrKranz> dholbach: do you mean about docs?
[08:25] <dholbach> yeah
[08:25] <DktrKranz> is it open to anyone?
[08:25] <dholbach> yeah
[08:25] <DktrKranz> nice
[08:25] <DktrKranz> alright
[08:25] <dholbach> we should just push documentation
[08:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82164 in Ubuntu "xorg.conf wrong default FontPaths" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82164
[08:26] <DktrKranz> hi popey :)
[08:27] <popey> hello :)
[08:27] <popey> a friend of mine has a show-stopping bug in edgy :( 73647
[08:28] <popey> means he can't install on a new-ish HP Proliant DL380 G5 server because the net card isn't detected
[08:28] <coNP> bug 73647
[08:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 73647 in linux-source-2.6.17 "Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5708 not detected on install" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/73647
[08:28] <pochu> coNP: then will you try to become an ubuntuQA member?
[08:28] <coNP> pochu: I try to :)
[08:28] <coNP> the only question is, when :)
[08:28] <popey> can't really wait 3 months for feisty
[08:28] <pochu> :)
[08:29] <gnomefreak> dholbach: i posted the meeting to fridge-devel list
[08:29] <popey> anyone know if it's possible to get the edgy cd image updated? or a daily build made with the bnx2 driver onboard?
[08:29] <dholbach> gnomefreak: excellent
[08:29] <DktrKranz> popey, i don't think so :(
[08:30] <gnomefreak> im not a member of the list so it might need to be approved. i dont see that list on lists.ubuntu.com
[08:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82165 in Ubuntu "Installer for Ubuntu 6.06 crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82165
[08:30] <popey> bummer. dapper can see the network but not the disks, edgy can see the disks but not the network :(
[08:30] <pochu> popey: if there has been a fix, you can do "sudo aptitude install package" before installing the liveCD
[08:31] <popey> pochu: that would have to be a dpkg -i woudln't it given the net card is the thing that doesn't work.. can't apt-get with no net
[08:32] <pochu> popey: right, stupid me :)
[08:32] <popey> :)
[08:32] <popey> usb key might come in handy there
[08:32] <pochu> sure
[08:33] <popey> as it's a kernel package, should just be able to grab linux-image-foo eh?
[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82166 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird crash then listen imap quarantaine server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82166
[08:38] <popey> other option is add another supported network card to get the install done, then whip it out after an update
[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82167 in gnome-system-tools (main) "Wireless connection configuration not possible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82167
[08:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82168 in firefox (main) "autoscroll shows the "resize up" cursor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82168
[08:52] <devathpp> Hi guys, I just assigned the first bug to myself and have responded to the reporter for more information?
[08:52] <DktrKranz> good devathpp
[08:52] <devathpp> can one of you look at my response to the reporter and comment?
[08:52] <devathpp> the bug is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evms/+bug/74311
[08:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74311 in evms "evms prereq's udev, which has moved" [Critical,Needs info]
[08:53] <devathpp> oh
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82169 in glibc (main) "vpnc in edgy works with older version of libc6 package!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82169
[09:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82171 in clips (universe) "Crash on AMD 64.." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82171
[09:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82172 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "crash when (perhaps) moving large folder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82172
[09:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82173 in gaim (main) "gaim crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82173
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82174 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82174
[09:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82175 in mutt (main) "mutt leaves behind .muttXXXXXXX directories outside of /tmp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82175
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82176 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82176
[09:47] <bdmurray> that's a dupe
[09:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82177 in Ubuntu "No USB keyboard support in CD menue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82177
[09:57] <bdmurray> gnomefreak: ping
[09:58] <gnomefreak> bdmurray: ?
[09:58] <bdmurray> I was looking at your comment to bug 82174
[09:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82174 in gnome-app-install "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with DBusException in __call__() (dup-of: 81727)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82174
[09:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81727 in gnome-app-install "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81727
[09:58] <gnomefreak> and?
[09:58] <bdmurray> The version of gnome-app-install is provided by apport
[09:59] <bdmurray> Package: gnome-app-install 0.3.8
[09:59] <gnomefreak> bdmurray: feisty?
[09:59] <gnomefreak> bdmurray: 3.10 is latest in feisty
[09:59] <dholbach> guys, please check the new mails on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>:-)
[10:00] <dholbach> have a nice evening
[10:00] <dholbach> i'm off for tonight :)
[10:00] <gnomefreak> night dholbach
[10:00] <dholbach> ROCK
[10:00] <dholbach> gracias
[10:00] <ajmitch> there's a bughelper list?
[10:00] <dholbach> yeah
[10:00] <bdmurray> Right, but you had asked the bug reporter for the version of g-a-i.  I just wanted to let you know that apport provides that info
[10:00] <ajmitch> I am falling behind
[10:00] <dholbach> people thought it was too much traffic on ubuntu-bugsquad@
[10:00] <gnomefreak> bdmurray: yeah i know
[10:01] <bdmurray> gnomefreak: okay, cool
[10:01] <gnomefreak> bdmurray: i thought about it after i hit send
[10:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82180 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82180
[10:02] <bdmurray> gnomefreak: I apparently responded shortly after you did not having seen your response. ;)
[10:02] <gnomefreak> stop with the update-manager reports and upgrade to the newest version already
[10:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82178 in bind9 (main) "idnconv manual page exists, but no binary" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82178
[10:03] <gnomefreak> ok good i got a spare sec. finally brb joining that list
[10:03] <gnomefreak> maybe not :(
[10:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82179 in gaim (main) "Gaim consistently crashes every time it is shut down" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82179
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82181 in amarok (main) "amarok will not open in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82181
[10:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82183 in control-center (main) "[apport]  gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82183
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82182 in exaile (universe) "exaile: Merge new debian version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82182
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82184 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with DBusException in __call__() (dup-of: 81727)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82184
[10:30] <gnomefreak> bdmurray: ty if your the one that marked the g-a-i bugs as dupes
[10:31] <bdmurray> Yes, I have marked a few as dupes today
[10:32] <gnomefreak> ty
[10:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82185 in amaya (universe) "crash on exit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82185
[10:41] <ajmitch> hm, which should I use, bughelper.dev or bughelper.main?
[10:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82186 in cupsys (main) "printing incorrect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82186
[10:42] <bdmurray> ajmitch: bughelper.dev has a bunch of untested changes
[10:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82187 in cupsys (main) "[feisty]  USB printers not detected - user "lp" not in group "plugdev"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82187
[10:42] <ajmitch> bdmurray: that's fine
[10:43] <bdmurray> then you could test .dev and hack away there
[10:43] <ajmitch> I was doing some hacking last night of a separate script for motu
[10:43] <ajmitch> grabbing debian bug info from ldap
[10:44] <ajmitch> might as well see if it can be useful in bughelper as well
[10:44] <ajmitch> it's a bit nicer than screen-scraping
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82188 in Ubuntu "Brightness control via ACPI in HP notebooks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82188
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82189 in xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting (universe) "Using xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting results in a blank screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82189
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82190 in Ubuntu "Seem optimization -O2 don't work g++" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82190
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82191 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82191
[11:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82193 in pmk (universe) "pmksetup(8) is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82193
[11:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82194 in gnucash (universe) "gnucash crash when printing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82194
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82195 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "Cannot modprobe fglrx" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82195
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82196 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus has poor usability w.r.t. the action choosen when dragging and dropping" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82196
[11:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82197 in labyrinth (universe) "[apport]  labyrinth crashed with ImportError in <module>() utils" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82197
[11:52] <coNP> don't you think bug 82190 is a serious one?
[11:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82190 in Ubuntu "Seem optimization -O2 don't work g++" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82190
[11:55] <pochu> coNP: don't know
[11:57] <coNP> thx pochu, anyway :)


[12:43] <luca_> rick_h_: jcsackett sinzui are you guys awake yet? :)
[13:01] <sinzui> I am luca_
[13:01] <gary_poster> you are not luca.  you are sinzui!
[13:02] <luca_> sinzui: great, I have a meeting with someone from the Webapps team to discuss how to make Juju responsive and would like someone involved with the front end to join the talk.
[13:02] <sinzui> Sorry, more coffee is needed to find myself
[13:02] <bac> gary_poster: the new ppa, i'd like to put it in ~juju-gui-charmers.  ok by you?
[13:02] <luca_> gary_poster: haha
[13:02] <gary_poster> :-)
[13:02] <gary_poster> bac +1
[13:02] <bac> coolio
[13:02] <luca_> sinzui: its in 1 hour and would be about half an hour long
[13:02] <bac> gary_poster: we need to talk also about transitioning away from python-charmhelpers
[13:03] <sinzui> okay.
[13:03] <sinzui> That works for me. luca_ do you want more than one person?
[13:03] <bac> gary_poster: it turns out it never got promoted to an ubuntu repo as i thought.  it has only every lived as part of ppa:juju/pkgs
[13:04] <gary_poster> bac, it was python-shelltoolbox that was promoted
[13:04] <luca_> sinzui: anyone can come, he started asking me techy questions yesterday that I couldn't answer.
[13:04] <bac> gary_poster: i had thought both were.
[13:04] <gary_poster> ah, no.
[13:04] <sinzui> luca_, fab.
[13:04] <gary_poster> bac, anyway, we want to migrate to wedgwood's thing, right?
[13:04] <luca_> sinzui: I've sent you an invite, feel free to give anyone interested the hangout link
[13:04] <gary_poster> I mean, that's what you want to talk about
[13:05] <sinzui> orangesquad, staging is again a victim of zookeeper/juju-agent problems. I am going to reboot the unit
[13:05] <bac> gary_poster: i think so.  he is advocating for not putting in "client-side" helpers, those that we use in our tests
[13:05] <bac> by advocating, i mean marked them as deprecated and not promoting them out of contrib
[13:05] <gary_poster> bac, ah right, I saw that.  what's his argument, and what is his suggested approach for us?
[13:06] <bac> his argument is simply client side stuff doesn't belong.  he suggested putting them in charm-tools, which is a non-starter for me.
[13:06] <gary_poster> what's an example of said "client-side" helper?  what does "client-side" mean?
[13:06] <gary_poster> in context
[13:07] <bac> gary_poster: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~charm-helpers/charm-helpers/devel/view/head:/charmhelpers/contrib/charmhelpers/__init__.py
[13:08] <bac> client-side means things that you don't use in hooks
[13:09] <gary_poster> ah I see.  have we already argued against this, casting these as test helpers, and suggesting a test-helper directory?
[13:10] <gary_poster> testutils
[13:10] <gary_poster> something like that
[13:12] <sinzui> orangesquad looks like charmworld/3 's agent is truly dead. The site is up. I will let it run for now
[13:14] <benji> I tend to call the module holding things like that "testing"
[13:17] <abentley> sinzui: roger.   Should we reboot so that landings don't work?  I'm not expecting to land anything soon.
[13:17] <abentley> s/landings don't work/landings work/
[13:18] <bac> gary_poster: no, i raised the issue in review but didn't make that specific suggestion.  i will do so now and propose a branch.
[13:18] <sinzui> abentley, I did reboot it, the agent did not start
[13:18] <gary_poster> great thanks bac
[13:19] <abentley> sinzui: Oh.  We could remove-unit charmworld/3 and add-unit charmworld maybe?
[13:20] <sinzui> abentley, after my rollback of elastic search last night, I think I want to be very cautious about next steps, but I think add-unit is right. that is what I did a few weeks ago.
[13:21] <abentley> sinzui: It's certainly more convenient than destroy-service followed by deploy because no reconfiguration is needed.
[13:32] <gary_poster> benji, btw, you can plan your coffeescript revolution with bcsaller.  he is sold too. :-)
[13:32] <benji> bcsaller, to the coffeecave!
[13:38] <hatch> good morning
[13:39] <gary_poster> jujugui, heads up: npm appears to be having some pretty serious issues today.  https://github.com/isaacs/npm-www/issues/325 is making it hard to very install npm dependencies.  If anyone wants details, lemme know.
[13:39] <gary_poster> morning hatch.  safe trip?
[13:39] <gary_poster> very hard to install, that is :-P
[13:39] <gary_poster> this will likely affect CI :-(
[13:40] <hatch> it was thanks, long trip though - the planes were pretty old so none had wifi and only one had tv's :)
[13:40] <gary_poster> heh
[13:40] <bac> solar flares affect CI
[13:40] <gary_poster> -/
[13:40] <gary_poster> :-/
[13:40] <hatch> bac: lol
[13:50] <gary_poster> hatch, how did angular go?  working through examples slowly but still optimistic from what I see
[13:51] <gary_poster> ugh, this npm thing is really annoying
[13:52] <hatch> gary_poster: right now I'm trying to figure out how to 'pre compile' templates so that we can send them over the wire like we do our hbs templates
[13:53] <gary_poster> cool hatch.  other things working though?
[13:54] <hatch> technically yes, the passing data between angular and yui is pretty trivial
[13:55] <hatch> you also need to do special techniques if you want to minify it because of how the dependency injection works
[13:55] <hatch> and I'm a little concerned about performance on our apps because our DOM is huge
[13:56] <matsubara> gary_poster, hi there, a question regarding the tarmac setup for juju-gui: Currently you use JUJU_BRANCH to define which branch to run tests on. if we start using tarmac, we want to run the tests from the trunk branch + the merged in changes of the approved merge proposal, right?
[13:56] <gary_poster> trivial: cool hatch, good.  looked like it.  special techniques to minify: tricky/problematic, or you have resolved to your satisfaction, at least mostly?  performance: what do you plan to show at mtg?
[13:57] <hatch> the angular guys have a workaround for the minification issue
[13:57] <gary_poster> matsubara, right.  the JUJU_BRANCH thing is for the post-commit CI approach
[13:57] <gary_poster> ok
[13:58] <hatch> my performance issues are based around the idea that it queries the whole dom for these directives
[13:58] <hatch> so the time to do that will increase with the amount of elements in the dom
[13:59] <gary_poster> hatch, that's one-time on load?
[14:00] <hatch> on load and then any time you initiate a module
[14:00] <hatch> I `think` because it's undocumented :)
[14:03] <gary_poster> hatch, any time you initialize a module for the first time, or any time you instantiate a model for a given view?  I'd hope for the first.  Also, I expect we could test/time this pretty trivially, but hooking angular in to the app and finding the start of the DOM walk and the end.  just because we don't actually have any directives isn't relative to your concern AIUI. :-)
[14:08] <bac> just called my ISP and she said my radio was broadcasting at too high a signal.  she's going to turn it down from 11 to 9.
[14:10] <hatch> gary_poster: yeah it's probably not a valid concern
[14:10] <hatch> it's quite a bit less code and easy to modulize
[14:10] <hatch> I will likely need to spend the weekend reading more on it
[14:10] <gary_poster> hatch, do we have something for the team to look at today, or is that premature?
[14:12] <hatch> honestly I think it's a little premature - i'd like to spend the weekend on it but I have learnt a lot about how it works and still think that it is probably the right approach for such a DOM centric portion of the app
[14:13] <hatch> I have found the best documentation is blogs, youtube videos, and stackoverflow
[14:15] <gary_poster> hatch, ack.  I have 15 min before a call--can we hang out in 5 for about 10 minutes so I can get a bit more detail?
[14:15] <hatch> yeah sure
[14:18] <hatch> the build fails with window undefined if I try and use window in 3rd party files
[14:21] <hatch> thought that was odd
[14:24] <gary_poster> hatch, heading to guichat, if you are available
[14:25] <hatch> yeah one sec I just gota grab my headset out of my bag
[14:27] <matsubara> gary_poster, can you add https://launchpad.net/~jujugui-lander as part of the team allowed to change lp:juju-gui ?
[14:30] <gary_poster> matsubara, done
[14:30] <matsubara> thanks gary_poster
[14:30] <sinzui> gary_poster, my meeting is running over. I will be a few minutes late
[14:31] <gary_poster> ok thanks sinzui, ping me when you are ready
[14:40] <sinzui> gary_poster, I am coming to the meeting now
[14:44] <bcsaller> gary_poster: npm is out to get me? ack. With all the deps the dir is 27M so I am reluctant to push that up but I can if you want
[14:44] <gary_poster> bcsaller, :-) on call.  maybe you will need to screen share
[14:45] <bcsaller> gary_poster: that can work
[14:49] <hatch> the node crowd is saying it's fixed now once dns updates
[14:50] <bcsaller>  that would be good
[14:50] <gary_poster> bcsaller, could you fix bug 1185982
[14:50] <_mup_> Bug #1185982: "=" and "-" keybingings are too agressive <juju-gui:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1185982>
[14:50] <bcsaller> gary_poster: I can look at it after the meeting
[14:51] <gary_poster> thx
[14:51] <gary_poster> jujugui call in 9; kanban now
[14:55] <teknico> wow, glipper got up to 1GB of resident memory
[14:57] <hatch> npm is working for me again
[14:58] <hatch> using googles dns at least
[14:59] <teknico> does google show ads on dns too? ;-)
[15:02] <gary_poster> jujgui call now, I'm coming, sorry :-)
[15:25] <arosales> teknico, I am sorry I was miskta
[15:25] <arosales> mistaken, marco is traveling today.
[15:25] <teknico> arosales: ok, thanks
[15:26] <arosales> teknico, if you are blocked m_3 may be able to assist until marco gets back.
[15:26] <teknico> arosales: great, thanks again
[15:26] <hazmat> teknico, there are a couple of alternatives.. opendns is one
[15:27] <teknico> hazmat: that's what I used to use before moving to google dns :-) could not stand the 404 intercept
[15:29] <arosales> teknico, I caught marcoceppi_ for a bit between traveling
[15:29] <marcoceppi_> hey teknico
[15:29] <arosales> if you have any questions may be good to get them in now :-)
[15:31] <teknico> marcoceppi_: hi, sorry to interrupt your flight :-) still having problem with selenium and display
[15:32] <teknico>  marcoceppi_, does this look ok, if you can see it? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5719876/
[15:32] <marcoceppi_> teknico: that shoudl be good enough, as long as the host as it set properly
[15:33] <teknico> marcoceppi_: the host? where?
[15:34] <marcoceppi_> teknico: the host being your maching
[15:34] <marcoceppi_> I considered just mirroring everything in os.environ to the env in Python but figured it'd be better to piecemeal them over. I may have been incorrect in that assumption
[15:34] <teknico> marcoceppi_: well, forwarding the whole env would definitely be simpler, if maybe a little cavalier :-)
[15:35] <marcoceppi_> teknico: I wanted to try to make sure the env wouldnt' mess anything up between people's machines by having a set number of things, least common denominator or variables, used
[15:36] <teknico> marcoceppi_: yes, it sounds like a reasonable approach
[15:36] <marcoceppi_> Though, it might just be in vain. If it turns out to not really be a problem I'll just have the whole thing mirrored and amend the few env variables like JUJU_ENV, etc
[15:37] <teknico> marcoceppi_: it would be worth trying it to see if it improves matters, even temporarily
[15:38] <marcoceppi_> teknico: if you want to patch your local install to use the whole of the os.environ I can send you a patch. Not sure if I want to put it in trunk just yet, I would hate to set one expectation only to remove it again at a later date
[15:39] <teknico> marcoceppi_: no need to commit it, just send it to me when you can, thanks
[15:41] <marcoceppi_> teknico: ack, I'll send it over in a few
[15:42] <teknico> marcoceppi_: thank you. don't miss flights over this, though :-)
[15:42] <marcoceppi_> teknico: sadly I'm in a car. I'd be far happier flying :P
[15:43] <teknico> marcoceppi_: maybe try a flying car then ;-) you're not driving, hopefully :-)
[16:02] <marcoceppi_> teknico: I've not created just a patch in bzr before, so I have a bzr send, which google told me I should use
[16:03] <sinzui> orangesquad, the new ES is queued to build. The issue was my merge script to repack the build. The deb contain the new and old versions of lucence jars. ES 0.90.0 is not compatible with the 4.1 jar that were from the previous repack.
[16:03] <teknico> marcoceppi_: the output of bzr diff would be enough
[16:03] <marcoceppi_> teknico: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5720274/
[16:05] <teknico> marcoceppi_: perfect, thanks again
[16:05] <marcoceppi_> teknico: np, I'll be afk for a few but feel free to ping me in here, just expect a delayed response!
[16:06] <teknico> marcoceppi_: I'll be EOD in one hour anyway, have a safe trip!
[16:06] <marcoceppi_> teknico: thanks! have a good weekend!
[17:27] <rick_h_> hatch: api1 helping with your browser issues in dev?
[17:28] <hatch> haven't tried yet :)
[17:30] <hatch> somehow I managed to screw up my node install but I think it's fixed now so I'll be trying shortly
[17:56] <sinzui> orangesquad: does anyone need staging? I have had three failed efforts to add-units. I want to deploy a replacement service.
[17:57] <abentley> sinzui: Not I.  Perhaps this is a good time to try out Kapil's deployer thing.
[17:57] <sinzui> abentley, capture the stack and redeploy it?
[17:58] <abentley> sinzui: If we can.  I kind of assumed we'd have to write it by hand.
[17:58] <abentley> The deployer config, I mean.
[17:59] <sinzui> I don't want to write one by hand this week. I want to stop get this distraction out of the way so that I can work on the charm model branch.
[18:00] <abentley> sinzui: If using deployer is not a quick fix, then I have a script you can use.
[18:02] <sinzui> I was just going to deploy a new charmworld service...and remember to set the charm_import_limit
[18:03] <abentley> sinzui: Oh.  Have you tried doing remove-unit first, terminating the machine, and adding a unit?
[18:05] <sinzui> no, actually I haven't since I wanted to be certain I got a new machine. I don't really need a new machine. I just want a working one
[18:06] <abentley> sinzui: If the agent on the machine is borken, you may need to get a new machine in order to get a working agent.
[18:06] <sinzui> That is what I was thinking
[18:08] <sinzui> abentley, I just used juju-jitsu export. It gave me something to deploy, but I cannot use it until the replacement ES is built. I will to remove the service for now
[18:09] <abentley> sinzui: Here is my script anyhow, in case it's useful in the future. https://pastebin.canonical.com/91952/
[18:09] <sinzui> thank you!
[19:07] <hatch> http://gizmodo.com/hell-yes-razer-made-the-most-powerful-small-windows-la-510358373
[19:07] <hatch> finally 'possibly' an alternative to a MBP
[19:11] <abentley> hatch: Heh, I was thinking about it too.
[19:12] <hatch> :)
[19:12] <hatch> of course I couldn't buy one until the new MBP comes out anways so that I could compare lol
[19:14] <hatch> abentley: this razer would probably be a lot easier to install Ubuntu on too haha
[19:15] <abentley> hatch: Especially if we can get other Canonifolk to buy it :-).  My Laptop Refresh Benefit should kick in just after 13.10 is released.
[19:16] <hatch> haha - I think I have to wait 2.5years lol
[19:59] <benji> "TypeError: '[object BlobConstructor]' is not a constructor"... thanks
[19:59] <hatch> never seen that error before :)
[19:59] <bcsaller> sounds like an old browser w/export
[20:00] <benji> yep; unfortunately it is the one that runs hour hedless tests (phantomjs)
[20:05] <benji> this makes me wonder about the test coverage of the other code that builds blobs
[20:08] <hatch> are we running an older version of phantomjs?
[20:09] <hatch> current version is 1.9 and I have 1.8.1 installed
[20:09] <hatch> might want to see if you can update to 1.9
[20:10] <hatch> npm has 1.9.0-6
[20:10] <hatch> not sure what the -'s mean
[20:20] <benji> hatch: thanks for the hint.  The "-" is probably a packaging change (but not a change to the code).  I'll try to update and see if my tests start to pass.
[20:21] <hatch> if that does fix let me know so I don't run into the same :)
[20:23] <benji> k
[20:26] <benji> well, now I can't get through a test run because phantomjs segfaults
[20:27] <benji> no dice; the updated phantomjs didn't help
[20:29] <bcsaller> skip that test based on UA?
[20:46] <hatch> finally set up dual google accounts - wow I can't believe I didn't know about this sooner
[20:46] <hatch> so much easier hah
[20:49] <benji> having two may be good, but I can't recommend having a half-dozen
[20:49] <hatch> I can't really see needing more than two :)
[20:49] <hatch> personal & work
[20:50] <hatch> and I love how it automatically picks the proper account based on the url
[21:05] <bac> hatch: it hasn't always been so smart
[21:11] <hatch> gary still around?
[21:11] <hatch> gary_poster: ^
[21:12] <gary_poster> hatch yes
[21:12] <gary_poster> shoudl go now though :-)
[21:12] <hatch> I have added a few things to the evaluation notes
[21:12] <hatch> just wanted to fill you in on a couple things I found out today
[21:13] <gary_poster> cool hatch.  quick call?
[21:13] <hatch> sure
[21:13] <hatch> in guichat
[21:13] <gary_poster> yeah
[21:20] <bac> \o everybody
[21:22] <benji> bye bac
[21:48] <hatch> rick_h_: hey still around?