[03:15] <Kyral> s
[03:15] <Tsunamii> ta
[03:15] <maxy_noob> merriam, you mean the echo stuff?
[03:15] <goldfish> DonL: ah right.
[03:15] <nalioths_dog> Tsunamii: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[03:15] <bddebian> harold: Do you get anything if you do:  "iwconfig eth1" ?
[03:16] <nalioth> DonL: what kind of browser are you after?
[03:16] <cwillu> brand new machine;  asus-a7880:2500amd:1gig:80gig:on-board-everything-except-for-video
[03:16] <merriam> maxy_noob: yes.  Those commands add fixed addresses for three names.
[03:16] <harold> bddebian: "No such device"
[03:16] <bddebian> cwillu: That is a new one on me
[03:16] <DonL> I'm pretty happy with Firefox, except for a few little things
[03:16] <cwillu> :(
[03:16] <bddebian> harold: Do you know the name of the driver for your wireless?
[03:16] <Tsunamii> Kyral, that command doesn't work, can't find the package
[03:16] <bddebian> cwillu: Hang on a sec
[03:16] <maxy_noob> hmmmm, I just clean installed ubuntu today; never had to do that before.
[03:16] <maxy_noob> are you saying I'll probably have to do that from now on?
[03:17] <nalioth> DonL: are you after fast? lightweight? why was dillo recommened to you?
[03:17] <harold> bddebian: Nope
[03:17] <Kyral> Tsunamii, its w32codecs
[03:17] <cwillu> burned three cd's, including one at 1x, as well as trying an old knoppix cd;  ubuntu image md5'd okay
[03:17] <Kyral> !info w32codecs
[03:17] <DonL> I found Dillo on "Damned Small Linux" disk and tried it there
[03:17] <harold> bddebian: It's an Atheros chipset, I know that much.
[03:17] <Tsunamii> tried it
[03:17] <Kyral> Its in Backports, damn
[03:17] <cwillu> bddebian:  thanks
[03:17] <merriam> maxy_noob: if you reinstall, you may have to repeat those commands.
[03:17] <maxy_noob> dillo doesn't load all pages though
[03:17] <Kyral> !wiki Repos
[03:18] <maxy_noob> merriam, great! 8_)
[03:18] <DonL> maxy_noob, no. There are some limitations
[03:18] <Kyral> ah screw it
[03:18] <harold> bddebian: It's the D-Link DWL-G630
[03:18] <Tsunamii> nalioths_dog, I don't know how to package source files
[03:18] <maxy_noob> Is Firefox the best browser in Linux?
[03:18] <tiglionabbit> maxy_noob: matter of opinion
[03:18] <maxy_noob> It doesn't seem to work as well as in Windos.
[03:18] <merriam> maxy_noob: there's something wrong with your net connection.  The problem may go away after a while.
[03:18] <Kyral> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[03:18] <Kyral> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted <---Add those to your source.list Tsunamii
[03:18] <Tsunamii> will do
[03:18] <neosnightmare> i think so max
[03:18] <Tsunamii> source list where again? :)
[03:19] <DonL> maxy_noob, for me today it seems to be.
[03:19] <nalioth> Tsunamii: go to www.mplayerhq.hu and download the 'essential package' from the d/l page
[03:19] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[03:19] <ubotu> methinks backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[03:19] <maxy_noob> merriam, how did you find that out?
[03:19] <maxy_noob> Mozilla better?
[03:19] <tiglionabbit> maxy_noob: same difference
[03:19] <maxy_noob> k
[03:19] <nalioth> Tsunamii: and after you are done with those repos, Kyral sent you, comment them out
[03:19] <maxy_noob> what is commonly used in linux though?
[03:19] <merriam> maxy_noob: from dillo's output
[03:19] <nalioth> Tsunamii: prolonged use of those repos can mess up your system
[03:19] <cwillu> either
[03:20] <bddebian> cwillu: You aren't using VirtualPC are you?
[03:20] <Kyral> WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE THE BACKPORTS?!
[03:20] <cwillu> no
[03:20] <DonL> Mozilla's the whole show, mail and everything. I heard they're not supporting it any more, but who knows
[03:20] <goldfish> Kyral: It can cause problems.
[03:20] <Kyral> I have NEVER had a problem with them!
[03:20] <nalioth> Kyral: nobody HATES backports
[03:20] <bddebian> harold: Give me a few
[03:20] <CarlK> vsFTPd - is there a .conf for anon ftp where you can only ul to incoming and  dl from pub,
[03:20] <goldfish> when u upgrade to breezy
[03:20] <maxy_noob> I use gmail so I don't need an email client
[03:20] <biovore> FIREFOX/Thunderbird
[03:20] <benplaut> Kyral: not everyone... i like them :)
[03:20] <cwillu> brand new machine, right out of the box
[03:20] <bddebian> harold: You re-compiled your kernel?
[03:20] <Tsunamii> nalioth, I can't find the 'essential' package
[03:20] <tiglionabbit> Kyral: backports are unreliable, but important if you want to get certain things
[03:20] <Kyral> Heck, I use Backports Staging
[03:20] <stonecold> uhonghong
[03:20] <nalioth> Tsunamii: its on the codecs downloads page
[03:20] <maxy_noob> biovore, ok
[03:20] <DonL> biovore, I use Thunderbird too
[03:20] <Kyral> Nada broken :D
[03:20] <harold> bddebian: I show you exactly what I did...
[03:20] <Tsunamii> ok
[03:20] <Tsunamii> i see now
[03:21] <Tsunamii> thanks
[03:21] <Kyral> The only thing that broke through Apt-Get is when I upgraded to Breezy last month (MISTAKE!!)
[03:21] <DonL> biovore, I found Evolution pretty but a bit bloated
[03:21] <biovore> yeah..
[03:21] <Tsunamii> apt-get install codecs? ;o
[03:21] <maxy_noob> compared to firefox's performance in windows, it seems a little klunky in linux
[03:21] <biovore> thunderbird is just nice..  enigmail and works on alot of platforms
[03:21] <bddebian> cwillu: Can you disable ACPI in BIOS?
[03:21] <Kyral> apt-get install w32codecs
[03:21] <cwillu> one sec
[03:21] <nalioth> Tsunamii: only if you put those backports repos in your sources.list
[03:21] <Kyral> ^sudo
[03:21] <Tsunamii> ah
[03:22] <biovore> uncle same is considering using it over Outlook
[03:22] <maxy_noob> Ya, if I used an email client I'd probably use thunderbird
[03:22] <Tsunamii> so extract and double click whatever? :P
[03:22] <DonL> maxy_noob, I've got firefox flying. There are some hints
[03:22] <maxy_noob> shoot!
[03:22] <Kyral> no no
[03:22] <harold> bddebian: I followed the instructions on this page, under The Package Builder: http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi
[03:22] <Kyral> it installs by itself
[03:22] <nalioth> Tsunamii: extract the files into /usr/local/libs/codecs/
[03:22] <biovore> firefox can do some directx stuff too :-)
[03:22] <Kyral> Apt-Get == OWNAGE
[03:22] <Tsunamii> lol
[03:22] <Tsunamii> i'm doing GUI now Kyral  :P
[03:22] <Kyral> nalioth, is he doing it via Apt-Get or downloaded files?
[03:22] <nalioth> Kyral: Tsunamii is looking at two methods
[03:22] <Tsunamii> downloaded
[03:22] <Kyral> icky
[03:23] <Tsunamii> :P
[03:23] <cwillu> trying it...
[03:23] <Kyral> icky icky
[03:23] <jedix> hrm
[03:23] <jedix> does the installation ask for a root password?
[03:23] <Tsunamii> i know, i prefer the apt-get install function better :P
[03:23] <Kyral> Yah, i removed Synaptic last month, I sometimes forget it exists :D
[03:23] <maxy_noob> there's a speedup utility for firefox in windows (firetune or something like that). Is there an equivalent for Linux?
[03:23] <nalioth> Tsunamii: you are getting the newest codecs direct
[03:23] <tiglionabbit> maxy_noob: we don't have such things in linux, unnecessary
[03:23] <harold> bddebian: The hickup came when I attempted to follow the next step on that page, under Installing The Packages.
[03:23] <biovore> maxy_noob: not sure..
[03:23] <Tsunamii> nalioth, there's no codec folder in lib
[03:24] <Tsunamii> there's only python folders
[03:24] <DonL> maxy_noob, : you have to go to go to about:config
[03:24] <biovore> I think foxxy tune just changes the window size on the TCP subsystem
[03:24] <maxy_noob> ya, but what to change, DonL
[03:24] <cwillu> its just rebooting now;  it did that before as well (once or twice)
[03:24] <bddebian> harold: So the packages built OK?
[03:24] <cwillu> it comes up to the initial opening screen (press enter or type server, etc)
[03:24] <DonL> change :network.http.pipelining to true from false, then..
[03:24] <nalioth> Tsunamii: make one
[03:24] <cwillu> but it just restarts after that
[03:24] <nalioth> Tsunamii: and its "codecs"
[03:25] <Tsunamii> yeah
[03:25] <Tsunamii> will it automatically work?
[03:25] <DonL> change network.http.proxy.pipelining to true from false, then...
[03:25] <Tsunamii> how do i create folder via console?
[03:25] <Tsunamii> else i'll have to log in as root
[03:25] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: mkdir
[03:25] <Tsunamii> rgr
[03:25] <bddebian> cwillu: IF you can do it fast enough, try typing:  "linux acpi=off"
[03:25] <harold> bddebian: I guess, but they wouldn't install.
[03:25] <epohs> does anyone know about changing file permissions on mountpoints?
[03:25] <cwillu> I have plenty of time for that
[03:25] <bddebian> harold: What was/is the error?
[03:25] <cwillu> already tried it :)
[03:25] <cwillu> I can wait at that screen indefinately\
[03:25] <DonL> change network.http.pipelining.maxrequests to 30 from 4  (if you have broadband)
[03:26] <bddebian> cwillu: Are you replying to me?
[03:26] <cwillu> but as soon as I hit enter, it either reboots or gives me a kernel panic
[03:26] <cwillu> yes
[03:26] <Kyral> hmm
[03:26] <Tsunamii> ok
[03:26] <Tsunamii> time to put the files in
[03:26] <Kyral> would this command work....
[03:26] <nalioth> Tsunamii: now any program that needs codecs will look for them there
[03:26] <Tsunamii> ok
[03:26] <Tsunamii> now umm
[03:26] <Kyral> aptU && aptUI && sudo reboot...
[03:26] <Tsunamii> do i copy the folder in
[03:26] <cwillu> bddebian: yes
[03:26] <Tsunamii> or just the .dll files etc/
[03:26] <maxy_noob> DonL, done
[03:26] <nalioth> Tsunamii: just the individual files into the /codecs/ folder
[03:27] <Tsunamii> will do
[03:27] <Tsunamii> how do you paste via console? :P
[03:27] <Kyral> Shift+Ctrl+V
[03:27] <bddebian> cwillu: If you hit tab at the prompt, do you have any other options to boot from?
[03:27] <Tsunamii> no permission
[03:28] <nalioth> Tsunamii: you use the cp command
[03:28] <Tsunamii> h
[03:28] <Tsunamii> oh
[03:28] <Tsunamii> nvm
[03:28] <Tsunamii> thanks Kyral  :P
[03:28] <Tsunamii> oh wait
[03:28] <Tsunamii> permission denied
[03:28] <nalioth> Kyral: you didnt ask which console
[03:28] <cwillu> one sec
[03:28] <harold> bddebian: Something like this: "dpkg: error processing...cannot access archive: No such file or directory"
[03:28] <maxy_noob> is that it, DonL?
[03:28] <bddebian> Tsunamii: Sometimes a right-click will paste
[03:28] <Tsunamii> nope
[03:28] <Kyral> nalioth, eh?
[03:28] <Tsunamii> it's ghosted
[03:28] <Tsunamii> i'll have to login as root
[03:28] <Tsunamii> but
[03:28] <Tsunamii> the downloaded files are on my desktop
[03:28] <harold> bddebian: So it appears the package build didn't do its job completely.
[03:29] <DonL> maxy_noob, Another think I did was disable IPv6 in the network.dns.disable IPv6
[03:29] <maxy_noob> apt-get into it!
[03:29] <nalioth> harold: how diffecult would it be to upgrade to hoary?
[03:29] <maxy_noob> :D
[03:29] <maxy_noob> I like that wall
[03:29] <DonL> thing
[03:29] <Aragorn_guardian> very nice...
[03:29] <Aragorn_guardian> 8)
[03:29] <Aragorn_guardian> compiling works...ehehehe
[03:29] <nalioth> Aragorn_guardian: checkinstall is your friend
[03:29] <Aragorn_guardian> but is few dangerous...i know...
[03:29] <harold> nalioth: Not difficult, thanks to your and others help.  Just time consuming, and I'd really like to get my pccard going.
[03:29] <bddebian> harold: If you do an "ls" the file madwifi-toolsXXXX.deb" is in the directory that you are in?
[03:29] <Tsunamii> actually
[03:29] <nalioth> harold: you are not having much luck NOW
[03:29] <Tsunamii> i'll just set the permissions
[03:29] <Aragorn_guardian> yeah...even scite is in the repository... 8)
[03:30] <cwillu> bddebian:  I should qualify that:  I see it extract the images, it was giving me an corrupted image error before (I don't see it anymore)
[03:30] <harold> bddebian: You're helping alot, by the way - i mean it.
[03:30] <cwillu> if I hit tab, nothing happens
[03:30] <nalioth> harold: perhaps a newer ubuntu version might help with these fellows attentions
[03:30] <tiglionabbit> woo, I'm ready for some pain, bring on Gentoo!  *downloads*
[03:30] <maxy_noob> DonL, ok cool, thanks
[03:30] <nalioth> Tsunamii: use "sudo cp blah blah"
[03:30] <Ghetek> im trying to get ubuntu installed on a laptop and i want to get the screen resolution working right http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/product/pdf_files/detailed_specs/portege_7020ct.pdf#search='7020ct%20tft%20specs' this is the link to the pdf that has all the info on the screen and i am in the screen configuration utility now i just am having trouble deciphering all of this
[03:30] <nalioth> Tsunamii: you start messing with permissions, and things go wonky
[03:30] <DonL> maxy_noob, worked for me.
[03:30] <maxy_noob> seems a little better
[03:30] <bddebian> cwillu: You said that you tried a few different CDs?
[03:31] <Kyral> no touchy permissions
[03:31] <Tsunamii> lol
[03:31] <bddebian> OK, smoke break, brb
[03:31] <cwillu> yes
[03:31] <Tsunamii> but i'll chmod it back D:!
[03:31] <DonL> I've got company. Must go.
[03:31] <Tsunamii> it didn't work anyways :P
[03:31] <harold> bddebian: The madwifi-tools shows up in the debian directory that is created.
[03:31] <maxy_noob> DonL, hahahaha
[03:31] <DonL> See ya later!
[03:31] <maxy_noob> ok
[03:31] <Tsunamii> so where can i put the files somewhere that my root account can access?
[03:31] <harold> bddebian: Enjoy your smoke; I'
[03:31] <maxy_noob> ciao
[03:31] <cwillu> 3 ubuntu's (image was md5'd), one burned at 1x, two different brands, and an old knoppix I had lying around
[03:31] <Tsunamii> oh cp
[03:31] <bddebian> harold: The .deb files?
[03:31] <harold> bddebian: I'll explain later.
[03:31] <Tsunamii> what about paste?
[03:31] <Tsunamii> i've already copied via GUI
[03:31] <nalioth> Tsunamii: use "sudo cp * /usr/local/lib/codecs"
[03:31] <bddebian> cwillu: Have you tried a live-cd just to see if it boots?
[03:31] <Tsunamii> ok
[03:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know why after installing a harddrive and setting it up i can't wright to it?
[03:32] <harold> bddebian: There's a debian directory created in the madwifi-1.6 dirctory...
[03:32] <cwillu> knoppix is a live cd
[03:32] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: It'smounted read-only ?
[03:32] <nalioth> Tsunamii: you can only use copy/paste in the gui if you opened the gui as root (WHICH IS VERY NOT ADVISED)
[03:32] <harold> bddebian: But as far as I can see, the compile did not create...
[03:32] <Tsunamii> ah
[03:32] <bddebian> cwillu: Whoops missed that you said that, sorry
[03:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no it's mounted (rw)
[03:32] <cwillu> this is dying before I get any of the usual [ok]  stuff
[03:32] <cwillu> :)
[03:32] <nalioth> bddebian: can you help ChurcH_of_FoamY ?
[03:32] <Tsunamii> is there a way to cp all files?
[03:32] <harold> bddebian: ...the .deb file that I'm supposed to install.
[03:32] <nalioth> Tsunamii: i just showed you
[03:32] <Aragorn_guardian> ubuntu device database is a nice peace of work....
[03:32] <bddebian> harold: The /debian directory is for building the package
[03:32] <Tsunamii> cp blah blah blah ?
[03:32] <harold> bddebian: As far as I can tell, but I'm not even certain where I'm supposed to look.
[03:32] <Aragorn_guardian> very useful
[03:33] <harold> bddebian: okay
[03:33] <nalioth> Tsunamii: in a terminal, cd into the expanded donwloaded codec directory, and run that command
[03:33] <Aragorn_guardian> my system poped in front of me...working...ehehehe
[03:33] <zenlunatic> help i think someone has broken into my system and i don't know how to tell. firestarter says 7 incoming connections
[03:33] <cwillu> I tried _under_clocking_ the machine (bus and cpu), turned off the l1/2 caching;  decompressing took a while, but it still crashed
[03:33] <Tsunamii> righto
[03:33] <virgule> anyone using kmail on fluxbox in here?
[03:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> boy that godsmoke guy in kubuntu keeps calling me a retard >.<
[03:33] <bddebian> harold: In the madwifie-1.6 directory do an "ls *.deb"
[03:33] <nalioth> Tsunamii: i actually sent you the exact command to use
[03:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what is his problem with me?
[03:33] <harold> bddebia:  See, the instructions on that page say to cd into madwifi-1.6 and run dpkg -i madwifi-source_20040619_all.deb
[03:33] <harold>   dpkg -i madwifi-tools_20040619_i386.deb
[03:33] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: ignore him
[03:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i did
[03:34] <harold> bddebian: One sec...
[03:34] <Tsunamii> missing destination files
[03:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and buy the way why can't i wright to the hard drive i set up?
[03:34] <bddebian> nalioth: Do you know if we have fsysopts somewhere?
[03:34] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: we are all retards. i'm the king of them
[03:34] <harold> bddebian: No such file
[03:34] <Tsunamii> rather weird
[03:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^ lol
[03:34] <hondje> so
[03:34] <virgule> then im 2nd
[03:34] <Tsunamii> i'm in the dir of the files, and did the cp command
[03:34] <nalioth> bddebian: i have no clue what that even is
[03:34] <bddebian> harold: Then the dpkg-buildpackage must have failed
[03:34] <Tsunamii> but it asks for destination files
[03:34] <hondje> why does that link in the forum at the top right say ubuntu.com, and link to ubuntulinux.org?
[03:34] <bddebian> nalioth: Never mind :-)
[03:34] <harold> bddebian: I guess
[03:35] <harold> bddebian: I followed the instruction on that page to the tee.
[03:35] <tjrtjiceGa> hondje: isnt it the same thing?
[03:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um what just happend?
[03:35] <nalioth> Tsunamii: use "sudo cp * /usr/local/lib/codecs/"     <<<< try that
[03:35] <bddebian> harold: Go into the madwifi directory again and run the "fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage" again
[03:35] <Kyral> ChurcH_of_FoamY, what did you format it in?
[03:35] <Tsunamii> yeah
[03:35] <Tsunamii> doesn't work
[03:35] <bddebian> harold: And let me know the errors
[03:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ext3
[03:35] <Tsunamii> missing destination files
[03:35] <Kyral> icky
[03:35] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: What is the error?
[03:35] <Tsunamii> wait
[03:35] <Tsunamii> it says omitting directory
[03:35] <Kyral> I never got my Ext3 2nd HD to work
[03:36] <nalioth> bddebian: start with ChurcH_of_FoamY as if he just bought a new HD
[03:36] <bddebian> cwillu: Sorry, I'm having a hard time keeping up.  Do you have any "strange" cards in there?
[03:36] <Kyral> so I formatted it in FAT32 :P
[03:36] <Tsunamii> :(
[03:36] <harold> bddebian: It begins the process...
[03:36] <cwillu> brand new machine, only card in it is a radeon 7250
[03:36] <hondje> tjrtjiceGa: It doesn't redirect, it's actually anchored to ubuntulinux.org
[03:36] <Kyral> used the fstab to Force it into being writable by everyone
[03:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the error is access denied to /home/shane/attic/STORAGE
[03:36] <nalioth> Tsunamii: cd into /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[03:36] <tjrtjiceGa> same thing, I dont get your point, nm.
[03:36] <nalioth> Tsunamii: and run this: "ls"
[03:36] <cwillu> bddebian:  it has onboard net/sound (both disabled), sata (can't find a way to disable, but nothing plugged into it)
[03:36] <Tsunamii> done
[03:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and then it stops the file transfer
[03:36] <Tsunamii> done
[03:37] <harold> bddebian:...when it gets to dpkg-checkbuilddeps, it prints "Unment dependencies: sysutils"
[03:37] <Kyral> yah
[03:37] <nalioth> Tsunamii: what did it say?
[03:37] <tuks> Does anyone know where the inet1.conf is in ubuntu?
[03:37] <cwillu> 1 gig of 512ddr
[03:37] <Tsunamii> nothing
[03:37] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Doing what?  Do you get the same error if you use the command with sudo?
[03:37] <Tsunamii> it just went to another line
[03:37] <harold> bddebian: ...then...
[03:37] <Kyral> ChurcH_of_FoamY,  format it in FAT32
[03:37] <bddebian> harold: Ahh
[03:37] <bddebian> harold: "apt-get build-dep madwifi
[03:37] <bddebian> "
[03:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hold on one at a time heads gonna go poof >.<
[03:37] <Aragorn_guardian> i need more tools to admin the servers...like apache, samba, etc...there are tools in ubuntu for that?
[03:37] <harold> bddebian: Will do.  Got have a smoke!
[03:37] <nalioth> Tsunamii: run this: "sudo cp /path/to/downloaded/codecs/* ./"
[03:37] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Tell me about it :-)
[03:37] <harold> bddebian: You shouldn't smoke, by the way.  That's kills.
[03:38] <bddebian> tuks: What is looking for that?
[03:38] <nalioth> Aragorn_guardian: yes
[03:38] <Ghetek> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wont let me get 1024x768 @ 85 mhz
[03:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no it starts to transfer the data and then after like 10 min it stops
[03:38] <harold> bddebian: I had to quit smoking.
[03:38] <tuks> Me.
[03:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and gives all sorts of access errors
[03:38] <bddebian> harold: I should
[03:38] <virgule> smoking one pack per day is more expensive than a new car loan
[03:38] <bddebian> tuks: I mean is some package looking for it
[03:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> all i want to do is dump a 32.2 gig file on it
[03:38] <tuks> No...
[03:38] <bddebian> virgule: Tell me something I DON"T know :-)
[03:38] <Kyral> ChurcH_of_FoamY, format it into FAT32
[03:38] <harold> bddebian: You should.
[03:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> why i just made it ntfs
[03:38] <tuks> It's the file that I need to edit to get internet working...
[03:38] <bddebian> tuks: Do this:  "sudo find / -name inetl.conf"
[03:38] <tuks> in slackware.
[03:38] <Kyral> ....
[03:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i don't understand >.<
[03:39] <bddebian> NTFS?? WTF?
[03:39] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: NTFS and linux dont go together
[03:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i meant ext3
[03:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[03:39] <Kyral> You made it NTFS and NOW are asking why you cannot write to it?!
[03:39] <bddebian> tuks: Slackware?
[03:39] <cwillu> lol :)
[03:39] <virgule> yep.. its like bear and chocolate
[03:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> getting confused here lol >.<
[03:39] <tuks> Another version of linux.
[03:39] <neosnightmare> lol
[03:39] <Kyral> /dev/sda1       /media/anime    vfat    rw,auto,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000 0 0        0       0 <---That line got my HD working when I used FAT32
[03:39] <virgule> beer*
[03:39] <tuks> Internet works in ubuntu, but not slackware.
[03:39] <harold> bddebian: "Unable to find a source package for madwifi"
[03:39] <dszabo> question: why won't skype version <IP_ADDRESS> work on Ubuntu but will work on MEPIS?
[03:39] <tuks> So I want my ubuntu file as a reference.
[03:39] <Ghetek> i change my xserver stuff and it just goes back to 640x480...
[03:39] <bddebian> cwillu: Can you yank out the SATA controller or is it embedded?
[03:39] <cwillu> everything's on the mb
[03:40] <nalioth> harold: i really suggest you upgrade to hoary
[03:40] <Kyral> replace /dev/sda1 and /media/anime with your respective things
[03:40] <Tsunamii> nalioth, cp: omitting directory `/home/tsunamii/Desktop/Downloads/codecs'
[03:40] <cwillu> bddebian:  I suppose I could look for a jumper
[03:40] <bddebian> tuks: Oh, try that command.  Or you probably need to look at /etc/network/interfaces
[03:40] <bddebian> cwillu: Are you sure the IDE stuff isn't on it?
[03:40] <tuks> Ok... thanks.
[03:40] <harold> nalioth: I've already burned the CD of Hoary; is that the fastest way?  The fastest?
[03:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> waits in line
[03:40] <cwillu> yes
[03:40] <nalioth> Tsunamii: i'm sorry, i must be tired
[03:40] <Tsunamii> lol
[03:40] <Kyral> ChurcH_of_FoamY,
[03:40] <Tsunamii> i'll find a way to do it via root account
[03:40] <cwillu> the normal bios picks up the hd and cd, there's a second bios post that shows nothing
[03:40] <Kyral> PM me for help
[03:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes?
[03:41] <nalioth> guys, how to you copy files in the terminal???? tell >>> Tsunamii
[03:41] <Aragorn_guardian> nalioth: what ones?
[03:41] <zenlunatic> what is sun-RPC portmap in firestarter mean?
[03:41] <nalioth> Tsunamii: you can use sudo
[03:41] <Kyral> cp <source file> <dest file>
[03:41] <Tsunamii> yeah, but i'm in the root terminal - so no need for sudo command
[03:41] <bddebian> Uhm cp
[03:41] <Tsunamii> i'll try that Kyral
[03:41] <harold> nalioth: I BitTorrented Hoary a week ago, but I had already picked up a copy of Warty about 6 months ago at SoCal Linux Expo.
[03:41] <dszabo> Why won't Skype work on Ubuntu? I've tried the Debian and tar.bz2 install...
[03:42] <harold> bddebian: Need a break?
[03:42] <bddebian> harold: You might want to try the Hoary if you have it
[03:42] <neoliminal> Hi, I'm trying to install and the only problem is when I try to log in the pointer freezes.  Is this a known problem?
[03:42] <Tsunamii> doesn't work $%&*(
[03:42] <nalioth> harold: put the cd in the machine (you do have a cd drive, right?) and open a terminal and type "apt-cdrom"
[03:42] <Tsunamii> keep saying omitting direcory
[03:42] <harold> nalioth: Nope
[03:42] <CarlK> dszabo - forget skype - use something standard and opensource like kphone
[03:42] <flodine> can someone tell me how to change xclock theme
[03:42] <bddebian> tsume: Show me the command you typed
[03:42] <dszabo> ok
[03:42] <Tsunamii> meh, i'll just put it on my usb flash disk
[03:42] <cwillu> bddebian:  sata's built into the southbridge though... dunno what all that affects
[03:42] <nalioth> Kyral: send those backport urls again, please
[03:42] <harold> nalioth: Actually, I've been networking it to another old Mac which has a CD drive.  It's worked after some serious, as you say, Voodoo.
[03:43] <bddebian> cwillu: SATA shouldn't be a problem.
[03:43] <nalioths_dog> Tsunamii: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:43] <Kyral> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[03:43] <skora> dszabo, if you're still willing to use skype, i'd use the ubuntuguide's sugggestion
[03:43] <Kyral> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted <---Add those to your source.list Tsunamii
[03:43] <cwillu> bddebian:  which is good to hear, seeing as I can't turn it off :)
[03:43] <CarlK> dszabo - there are a bunch of sip and h232 phones - sip is "better"
[03:43] <nalioth> harold: either way, you want to do it
[03:43] <neoliminal> anyone?
[03:43] <nalioth> harold: i think having a newer version may help you
[03:43] <bddebian> harold: Well you could try apt-get install sysutils, then try the dpkg-buildpackage again
[03:43] <Tsunamii> ok Kyral
[03:43] <pauldaoust> hey folks, has anyone dabbled in lm-sensors?
[03:43] <Tsunamii> where's my source list?
[03:43] <skora> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:43] <Kyral> which sources.list :P
[03:43] <bddebian> neoliminal: ?
[03:43] <skora> requires root
[03:43] <harold> bddebian: I'm getting this; I was think that...so I'll try...
[03:43] <nalioth> Tsunamii: follow the dogs inst with Kyral URLs
[03:44] <pauldaoust> my compy sez it's running at 75C, but that's crazy; I've never heard of an Athlon 1600+ running that hot
[03:44] <neoliminal> I have just installed ubuntu, and when I try to log in, the pointer freezes.
[03:44] <nalioth> Tsunamii: read the nalioths_dog instructions
[03:44] <Tsunamii> hey ?
[03:44] <pauldaoust> (mind you, I am converting FLACs to MP3s, but even when I'm not, the temp hovers around 68-70C)
[03:44] <harold> bddebian: It's installing sysutils.
[03:44] <Tsunamii> i'll just change the source.list - i've done it before :P
[03:44] <nickrud> Tsunamii I believe I usually get that 'directory' omitted when a wildcard copy includes a directory, but I didn't tell cp to recurse through directories
[03:44] <merriam> pauldaoust: I've run my 900 MHz Thunderbird over 90 C.
[03:45] <pauldaoust> merriam: wow. how?
[03:45] <merriam> The fan stopped.
[03:45] <pauldaoust> I personally think I just need to calibrate sensors.conf or soemthing, but I haven't found a resource that gives any recommendations.
[03:45] <skora> tsunamii, did you update your list ?
[03:45] <pauldaoust> merriam: ah :)
[03:45] <Tsunamii> yeah
[03:45] <dszabo> SIP doesn't work very well on my connection
[03:45] <skora> you have to update it via the command: apt-get update
[03:45] <Tsunamii> in snaptic
[03:45] <pauldaoust> merriam: mine makes nasty noises, but it seems to be okay, and I can touch the heatsink without any pain or burns
[03:45] <Tsunamii> did that already skora
[03:45] <skora> k
[03:45] <zenlunatic> what is "sun rpc portmap" anyone?
[03:45] <neoliminal> anyone?
[03:45] <neoliminal> :(
[03:46] <pauldaoust> zenlunatic: terrible virus!
[03:46] <harold> bddebian: Did both...
[03:46] <pauldaoust> zenlunatic: don't know, but is it running on your Ubuntu system?
[03:46] <bddebian> zenlunatic: Where are you getting that?
[03:46] <zenlunatic> pauldaoust: stop messing
[03:46] <eternale1> i've been a loyal gentoo user for about two years but had some major help setting it up... i must say im very impressed with ubuntu i got pretty much everything i needed up and running already
[03:46] <zenlunatic> pauldaoust: yes
[03:46] <zenlunatic> bddebian: in firestarter im getting that
[03:46] <pauldaoust> zenlunatic: and where do you see it? netcat?
[03:46] <Tsunamii> Kyral, after that, apt-get win32codecs?
[03:46] <bddebian> neoliminal: Anyone what?  Just ask a question if you have one
[03:46] <eternale1> with a little bit of help from you guys, btw very nice community
[03:46] <cwillu> neoliminal:  can you hit ctrl+alt+1?
[03:46] <bddebian> zenlunatic: It might be looking for sockets
[03:46] <cwillu> he did :p
[03:46] <neoliminal> I'll try cwillu
[03:46] <Jimbob> zenlunatic: portmap is a daemon used for NFS network mounts
[03:46] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[03:47] <skora> thanks eternale1
[03:47] <Tsunamii> k
[03:47] <nickrud> neoliminal maybe the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log will have some useful errors
[03:47] <pauldaoust> zenlunatic: sorry, I can't read :)
[03:47] <eternale1> :D
[03:47] <zenlunatic> Jimbob: could it be someone breaking in?
[03:47] <bddebian> neoliminal: Sorry, too many questions flying about.. :-)
[03:47] <cwillu> neoliminal:  should flash you to a terminal screen
[03:47] <cwillu> I'll try to help him dbddebian :)
[03:47] <Jimbob> zenlunatic: Doubtful
[03:47] <neoliminal> I'm on terminal screen.
[03:47] <harold> bddebian: I believe I'm going to install Hoary.
[03:47] <neoliminal> and now I can log in.
[03:47] <pauldaoust> zenlunatic: I wouldn't turn it on; it sounds really unnecessary. However, I'd also expect that if you left it open, there's no service on your Ubuntu computer that would be listening on that port anyway... however, you want to close up any unused ports to avoid SYN floods
[03:48] <Tsunamii> didn't work Kyral =(
[03:48] <Jimbob> zenlunatic: Just shutdown portmap and you'll be fine.
[03:48] <Tsunamii> couldn't find package w32codecs
[03:48] <Tsunamii> how do you download it? ;o
[03:48] <Jimbob> sudo /etc/init.d/portmap stop
[03:48] <cwillu> neoliminal:  okay
[03:48] <harold> bddebia: Thanks for your help; I do appreciate your time.
[03:48] <neoliminal> cwillu: how do I get to graphical interface now?
[03:48] <cwillu> neoliminal:  hit alt+7
[03:48] <neoliminal> ok
[03:48] <bddebian> harold: OK, sorry man
[03:48] <cwillu> neoliminal: should take you back to the frozen screen, or perhaps just a black screen:  let me know
[03:48] <Kyral> Hmm
[03:48] <merriam> pauldaoust: You'll need portmap if you want to use nfs.
[03:48] <harold> bddebian: Nah, don't be.   I figured, 'Sun RPC' -- superfluous
[03:49] <neoliminal> cwillu:ok, now back at login
[03:49] <harold> bddebian: I just wanted to get that wireless card going before taking the time with installing Hoary.
[03:49] <cwillu> okay
[03:49] <bddebian> harold: Good persistance :-)
[03:49] <cwillu> can you move mouse?
[03:49] <Kyral> oyah, Tsunamii, did you do a sudo apt-get update after adding those lines to your sources.list?
[03:49] <neoliminal> let me check
[03:49] <tiglionabbit> hey guys, what's a good way to find the size of a directory, including all subdirectories in it?
[03:49] <Tsunamii> yeah, just did it - works now :P
[03:50] <Tsunamii> sorry
[03:50] <ed1t> where do i go in ubuntu to get the gnome themes?
[03:50] <Tsunamii> i'm a nub :P
[03:50] <Kyral> sokay :D
[03:50] <pauldaoust> WOW
[03:50] <neoliminal> cwillu: nope... and the mouse is not "on".
[03:50] <Kyral> I forgot to do that today :P
[03:50] <cwillu> can you type?
[03:50] <merriam> pauldaoust, zenlunatic: portmap isn't necessary for most users as far as I know.  I use it because I use nfs.
[03:50] <Tsunamii> so now when i watch divx encoded .avi - it should automagically work?
[03:50] <pauldaoust> I'm cooking my computer!!! It really is as hot as it says it is: 76C
[03:50] <pauldaoust> it's really hot to the touch
[03:50] <Kyral> Yah
[03:50] <tjrtjiceGa> ed1t: gnome-look.org and art.gnome.org
[03:50] <neoliminal> cwillu: yes!
[03:50] <Tsunamii> i am god.
[03:50] <cwillu> hmm
[03:50] <skora> ed1t, do you want to access them in your desktop ?
[03:50] <cwillu> what type of mouse?
[03:50] <cubicool> is libpng12-dev not available?
[03:50] <seth_k> Tsunamii: God uses BSD.
[03:50] <cwillu> usb or ps2?
[03:50] <neoliminal> usb
[03:51] <Tsunamii> lol
[03:51] <tjrtjiceGa> -+
[03:51] <ed1t> skora, yea i guess
[03:51] <merriam> pauldaoust: 76 C isn't an emergency, but it's good to keep it under 60 C most of the time.
[03:51] <bddebian> seth_k: No, God uses GNU/Hurd ;-P
[03:51] <neoliminal> keyboard is not usb
[03:51] <harold> bddebian: One thing - I've been googling this, and I can't seem to find the repository I should add to get this package (that I've been mentioning): http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/linux-wlan-ng
[03:51] <skora> okie,
[03:51] <pauldaoust> well, I guess I need a new cooling fan...
[03:51] <Tsunamii> ok, now that this works - gotta find some time to emulate windows properly
[03:51] <tiglionabbit> ah, du -sh
[03:51] <Kyral> umm
[03:51] <Kyral> WHY
[03:51] <Tsunamii> wine is dodgy :p
[03:51] <cwillu> neoliminal:  try it on a different port (might give it a reset too)
[03:51] <harold> bddebian: Any idea where I can find that info.?
[03:51] <pauldaoust> merriam: really? I know the Athlon64 my brother bought (lucky bastard) has a max operating temp of 70
[03:51] <bddebian> harold: Well I know it is in breezy.  It might be in Hoary too
[03:51] <Kyral> Why need to emulate Windows?
[03:51] <Tsunamii> to run window programs? D:!
[03:51] <neoliminal> cwillu: did that.
[03:51] <Kyral> I know I use Cedega to play games, but thats IT
[03:51] <Tsunamii> but that costs money D:!
[03:51] <cwillu> bddebian:  you aren't under the impression that stallman is god, are you?  :P
[03:51] <Kyral> Tsunamii, name a windows program you need
[03:51] <bddebian> harold: Do you have universe and multiverse in your sources.list?
[03:52] <Tsunamii> steam
[03:52] <harold> bddebian: Really?    You could look up the spec for yours...
[03:52] <rob^> !java
[03:52] <skora> althoug this page is outdated, look at this one - http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml
[03:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[03:52] <epohs> i have a question reguarding anonymous ftp and permissions that probably wouldn't take too long to answer.  would anyone be willing to help for a minute or two?
[03:52] <harold> bddebian: I have the universe ones, but not the multiverse.
[03:53] <Kyral> Cedega == $5 month
[03:53] <pauldaoust> merriam: ah, I thought it was a limitation of the materials themselves (i.e., silicon)
[03:53] <skora> ed1t, did you find it ?
[03:53] <merriam> pauldaoust: but yes, get a good fan and heat sink.
[03:53] <seth_k> hmm, ubotu has an extra slash in the java url
[03:53] <Kyral> for 3 months
[03:53] <bddebian> harold: You could try multiverse, but I would really try hoary.  I had some install problems on my Thinkpad with Warty and when I installed Hoary it was aOK
[03:53] <ed1t> skora, yea wat file shall i point it to? i downloaded one
[03:53] <ed1t> i mean which file
[03:53] <neoliminal> cwillu: it wants me to be root
[03:53] <pauldaoust> merriam: no kidding... I have a bit of $ to play around with; maybe I'll look into one of those ones that run cool and quiet
[03:53] <Kyral> after three months, you can stop subscribing if you want
[03:53] <cwillu> sorry
[03:53] <cwillu> put a \'sudo' before that
[03:53] <seth_k> ubotu forget java
[03:53] <ubotu> i forgot java, seth_k
[03:53] <cwillu> ignoring the slash
[03:54] <seth_k> ubotu java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:54] <ubotu> okay, seth_k
[03:54] <pauldaoust> well, ta, folks; I'm going for supper
[03:54] <cwillu> and then it's just the normal password
[03:54] <Kyral> and tis WORTH it
[03:54] <skora> ed1t, you have to extract your theme, which is compressed in a .tar format, most likely
[03:54] <Aragorn_guardian> gonna home....till tomorrow...thanks all
[03:54] <ed1t> i did that,
[03:54] <skora> ok
[03:54] <merriam> pauldaoust: I have a quiet box here with a cheap copper heat sink and a 12 V fan running on 5 V.
[03:54] <neoliminal> cwillu: xorg-server is not installed
[03:54] <nickrud> cwillu neoliminal not to butt in, but it'x dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:54] <nalioths_dog> seth_k: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[03:54] <harold> bddebian: Do you think upgrading to Hoary may also fix the display issue I'm having?  I'm in the terminal, and it displays multiples of the terminal (and flickers).  Others with PowerBook installs of Ubuntu have had this issue...
[03:54] <skora> go to install theme and direct it to the location you extracted it to
[03:55] <cwillu> nickrud:  thanks
[03:55] <cwillu> always get that backwords :p
[03:55] <neoliminal> ok
[03:55] <bddebian> harold: It could, though I don't have much experience with Ubuntu on OldWorlds.  Just Debian.
[03:55] <nickrud> cwillu np, I've typed that a zillion times over the last few months :)
[03:55] <cwillu> lol
[03:55] <neoliminal> cwillu it's asking about video hardware
[03:55] <ed1t> skora, it says invalid file format
[03:55] <cwillu> just keep hitting enter
[03:55] <mpm> hullo; anyone know how I might try and make cd-audio burned under say gnomebaker more readable by an older cd-player that will read many cd-rs but not all?
[03:55] <eternale1> does gnome have a keys file like fluxbox?
[03:56] <cwillu> slowing up if you see something about the mouse, and make sure those look sensible
[03:56] <virgule> gnome-keybinding-properties?
[03:56] <epohs> is it possible to mount with different permissions than the source?
[03:56] <neoliminal> cwillu: ok, at the mouse thing
[03:57] <skora> ed1t, what format is it in ?
[03:57] <harold> bddebian: Thanks; I'm going to try that repository and then upgrade to Hoary one of these days.
[03:57] <cwillu> what's it defaulting to?
[03:57] <bddebian> harold: :-)
[03:57] <dszabo> Question about Skype (again)
[03:57] <ed1t> skora, i dont understand, coz i extracted all the file in the folder download
[03:57] <bddebian> harold: If you have a connection, just change your sources.list to point to Hoary and then do "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and BAM, you have Hoary ;-P
[03:57] <ed1t> so there is a folder DLfun, there are like bunch of files
[03:58] <epohs> the -uid option doesn't work with ext3, right?
[03:58] <ed1t> which file shall i point it to?
[03:58] <skora> what extensions do they have ?
[03:58] <eternale1> where would i find this gnome-keybinding-properties
[03:58] <skora> probably to index.theme
[03:58] <skora> if there's such a file in there
[03:58] <skora> where did you get the theme from ?
[03:58] <jedix> can someone tell me how to resize my desktop so that I can see all four corners?  I have my box hooked up to my hdtv
[03:58] <ed1t> gnome.org
[03:58] <neoliminal> cwillu: it has several options
[03:58] <ed1t> skora, http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/1046
[03:58] <neoliminal> asking for mouse port
[03:59] <poningru> anyone know why my xchat wont use unicode?
[03:59] <Tsunamii> what the? it doesn't work - i'm using aviplay - but there's still no sound for the .avi :(
[03:59] <ed1t> am i downloadin it right?
[03:59] <pinko> question on operamotifwrapper: what does it do?
[03:59] <Kyral> Tsunamii, sudo apt-get install xine-ui totem-xine
[03:59] <Tsunamii> rgr
[03:59] <virgule> Ghetek: put a Modeline line in xorg.conf.. thats what solved my resolution issues
[03:59] <Tsunamii> couldn't find package
[04:00] <Tsunamii> lol
[04:00] <Ghetek> modeline?
[04:00] <cwillu> neoliminal:  one sec so I can find a box I can do the same thing so I can see what options you have so I can tell you what might be a valid option :)
[04:00] <Kyral> !info xine-ui
[04:00] <ubotu> xine-ui: (the xine video player, user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.99.3-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1669 kB, Installed size: 3364 kB
[04:00] <virgule> yep.. this goes in Monitor Section... use gtf to generate the line
[04:00] <Ghetek> virgule: what is a modeline
[04:00] <virgule> IE: gtf 1024 768 70
[04:00] <Tsunamii> nvm
[04:00] <Tsunamii> got it
[04:00] <Tsunamii> typed it wrong :p
[04:00] <Tsunamii> my bad
[04:00] <zenlunatic> is # tcpdump -vv -X a bad command to run?
[04:00] <Ghetek>  virgule: can you baby step me a bit
[04:00] <skora> ed1t, on the comments there, it does say that another person had a problem with that SVG file extension
[04:00] <Kyral> !info totem-xine
[04:00] <virgule> sure ;).. PM
[04:00] <ubotu> totem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 633 kB, Installed size: 3788 kB
[04:00] <Tsunamii> ah, i better comment the line again back in sources.list
[04:00] <Tsunamii> Kyral, dw, i got it :P
[04:00] <Kyral> lol
[04:00] <ed1t> ooo
[04:01] <cwillu> neoliminal:  did you get "attempt mouse autodetection"?
[04:02] <Tsunamii> you're my hero Kyral
[04:02] <Tsunamii> bbl
[04:02] <neoliminal> cwillu yes
[04:02] <Kyral> I enjoy what I do
[04:02] <cwillu> which did you say?
[04:02] <neoliminal> cwillu: I started over
[04:02] <neoliminal> I can pick either yes or no there.
[04:02] <skora> ed1t, i've never worked with that file type before [svg]
[04:02] <Kyral> I swear, I'm getting into heaven by helping people here
[04:02] <skora> Kyral, it's the karma boost ^_^
[04:02] <jedix> that counts?
[04:03] <jedix> I thought mythtv was in a repository
[04:03] <cwillu> neoliminal:  auto-detect, and then I think it shoudl be /dev/input/mice
[04:03] <Kyral> !info mythtv
[04:03] <ubotu> mythtv: (A personal video recorder application (client and server)), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.17-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[04:03] <drew> can anyone here help me compile the GAIM source and install the autoprofile plugin?
[04:03] <bimberi> jedix: It's in multiverse
[04:03] <jedix> okay
[04:03] <neoliminal> cwillu: Yes, it says dev/input/mice
[04:04] <neoliminal> should I try that?
[04:04] <jedix> how do I add that to my apt source?
[04:04] <bimberi> !repositories
[04:04] <ubotu> it has been said that repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:04] <cwillu> okay
[04:04] <cwillu> keep hitting entre
[04:04] <cwillu> the rest of the settings (3button, scroll events) shouldn't matter
[04:04] <bimberi> jedix: See ubotu's answer (above)
[04:04] <neoliminal> ok, now on  modules to load
[04:04] <ed1t> skora, u know where to fine more ubuntu backgrounds?
[04:04] <cwillu> enter enter enter
[04:05] <Kyral> art.gnome.org
[04:05] <skora> ed1t, for the log in manager ?
[04:05] <Kyral> www.gnome-look.org
[04:05] <cwillu> yay for ssh :)
[04:05] <ed1t> skora, no for desktop background
[04:05] <jedix> thanks
[04:05] <neoliminal> cwillu: ok, now it's done
[04:05] <neoliminal> now what?
[04:05] <eno> stupid question: what is kubuntu?
[04:05] <bimberi> np :)
[04:05] <cwillu> alt+7
[04:05] <cwillu> ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:06] <cwillu> and see if you have a mouse
[04:06] <bimberi> eno: ubuntu with kde instead of gnome
[04:06] <Kyral> eno, Ubuntu with KDE installed instead
[04:06] <eno> oh, no big deal then
[04:06] <skora> well
[04:06] <eno> KDE is cool though . . .
[04:06] <neoliminal> cwillu  :(   no joy
[04:06] <cwillu> okay
[04:06] <slipaway172> not quite
[04:06] <skora> there's deviantart.com and more importantly, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1940
[04:06] <cwillu> neoliminal:  I dont' know that this will make any difference
[04:07] <cwillu> neoliminal:  but go into the bios and see if you can see 'enable legacy usb support'
[04:07] <slipaway172> but kde is still buggy ( kubuntu) compared to gnome (ubuntu)
[04:07] <neoliminal> cwillu:  the usb doesn't seem to even be powering the mouse... there's not red light in the mouse
[04:07] <neoliminal> ok
[04:07] <eno> isn't kde what knoppix runs on?
[04:07] <slipaway172> no power
[04:07] <eno> cause I love knoppix
[04:07] <cwillu> neoliminal:  does it flashy when you reboot?
[04:07] <kcburyshaker> hello   i am brand new to ubuntu  and just got it installed  i need help!
[04:07] <Kyral> Knoppix uses KDE
[04:07] <bimberi> eno: yes
[04:07] <neoliminal> yes
[04:07] <cwillu> flash even?
[04:07] <eno> yeah that's why I like KDE
[04:07] <neoliminal> cwillu: it does yes.
[04:07] <cwillu> okay, check the legacy, make sure the usb controller is actually turned on\
[04:08] <cwillu> it's weird though, cause it does seem to detect it
[04:08] <kcburyshaker> i clicked the red update button in the top right corner  but it is downloading REALLY slow   is there something wrong
[04:08] <kcburyshaker> i have a fast cable connection
[04:08] <slipaway172> neoliminal, your mobo is not giving your mouse power. use another mouse to see if the mouse is having problems or if the ps2 port is dead?
[04:08] <neoliminal> USB is set to "auto"
[04:09] <cwillu> is legacy on?
[04:09] <neoliminal> set to enabled?
[04:09] <neoliminal> Auto
[04:09] <slipaway172> sounds like defected hardware along the line
[04:09] <neoliminal> I can set it to enabled instead
[04:09] <cwillu> neoliminal:  set legacy on as well
[04:09] <neoliminal> ok
[04:09] <cwillu> it may not be in the same menu
[04:10] <eternale1> shoot i thuoght i was removing the window panel object instead the whole panel died
[04:10] <eternale1> weather not window
[04:10] <neoliminal> cwillu:  wait.... there's USB Legacy Support and what else?
[04:10] <cwillu> hmm?
[04:10] <cwillu> usb controller, and legacy support
[04:11] <eternale1> now i can't get the bar at the top to come back
[04:11] <tjrtjiceGa> killall gnome-panel
[04:11] <cwillu> controller absolutely needs to be on, usb support may merely need to be on
[04:11] <eternale1> i did that
[04:11] <neoliminal> ok
[04:11] <Kyral> kcburyshaker, is mozilla updating by anychance?
[04:11] <neoliminal> cwillu: ok, trying
[04:12] <cwillu> k
[04:12] <tjrtjiceGa> right click on a panel and add panel
[04:12] <Kyral> somethings take a LONG time to download for some reason
[04:12] <tjrtjiceGa> agreed
[04:12] <kcburyshaker> kyral   it is on the list   but the servers it is trying to download from are REALLY slow
[04:12] <neoliminal> mouse is lit up... (as normal)
[04:12] <cwillu> neoliminal:  failing that, try plugging it into another machine, make sure it actually works :)
[04:12] <kcburyshaker> i think im doing maybe 3.5 kb's a sec
[04:12] <slipaway172> like i said
[04:12] <Kyral> kcburyshaker, servers get slow, its one of those Internet things :D
[04:12] <neoliminal> I stole the mouse from this machine ;-)
[04:12] <Kyral> Its not the system's fault
[04:12] <cwillu> I love how the brittish say 'meatloaf'
[04:12] <kcburyshaker> it is saying for those 27 updates it will take it over 6 hours to download
[04:13] <cwillu> heh
[04:13] <cwillu> brb
[04:13] <slipaway172> probably the mobo messed up
[04:13] <neoliminal> ok, I saw when it turned off the mouse.
[04:13] <neoliminal> hold on...
[04:13] <kcburyshaker> and since i have fast cable   im more than just a little tiffed
[04:13] <eternale1> add a panel then how to get the whole panel back to the top with all the programs
[04:13] <Kyral> kcburyshaker, are you networked at all?
[04:13] <kcburyshaker> no  straight plugged in to modem
[04:14] <Kyral> hmm
[04:14] <cwillu> back
[04:14] <Kyral> must be the servers then
[04:14] <kcburyshaker> i checked my bandwidth on firefox and im flying according to cnet bandwidth test
[04:14] <Kyral> its the server then
[04:14] <slipaway172> yep
[04:14] <neoliminal> mouse turns dark after "starting hotplug subsystem..."
[04:15] <eno> how come firefox just disappears sometimes without even an error mesage?
[04:15] <kcburyshaker> is this gonna be fixed soon?  or is it cuz of load?
[04:15] <Kyral> I don't know, I'm not a Server Admin :P
[04:15] <cwillu> :(
[04:15] <neoliminal> cwillu: Did you see that?
[04:15] <slipaway172> eno, i have the same problem
[04:15] <cwillu> yes
[04:15] <Kyral> I'm just your Friendly Neighborhood Linux Guru
[04:15] <neoliminal> ok
[04:15] <eternale1> wow i really screwed that up
[04:15] <kcburyshaker> slip  you have the same issue?
[04:15] <slipaway172> yes
[04:15] <kcburyshaker> ok
[04:15] <cwillu> mister friendly neighborhood linux guru, what do you do when hotplug fails to detect a usb mouse?
[04:16] <cwillu> :)
[04:16] <kcburyshaker> well this sucks...lol   i JUST now installed ubuntu
[04:16] <slipaway172> ill be browsing i always browsing and pop its gone
[04:16] <Kyral> yanno, I knwo I set myself up with that one
[04:16] <kcburyshaker> ill let it run when im asleep
[04:16] <neoliminal> cwillu:  thank you for helping me this far!!! :)
[04:16] <cwillu> neoliminal:  I hate it when I can't take it all the way
[04:16] <slipaway172> what i wtote made no sence
[04:16] <Kyral> Try unplugging, then plugging it back in
[04:16] <eternale1> so is there anyway to get the original panel back to the top after being removed ... with like the same menu
[04:16] <neoliminal> cwillu:  we can both learn from this then.
[04:16] <cwillu> been there, done that
[04:17] <cwillu> dpkg reconfigured x, went through bios settings, verified the mouse worked on another machine
[04:17] <cwillu> mouse lights up, and goes dark at hotplug, and never comes back
[04:17] <slipaway172> but i will be browsing something i have looked at for the longest of times and once in awhile it will dissapear
[04:17] <cwillu> and that's about the sum total of what I know how to do
[04:17] <neoliminal> unplugging and plugging it back in turns the mouse back on, but .... doesn't move the mouse
[04:17] <jackhanna> hey guys
[04:17] <othernoob> where can i get a quicktime plugin for firefox and/or opera?
[04:17] <neoliminal> and now its off again.
[04:17] <jackhanna> get mplayer
[04:17] <jackhanna> othernoob one sec
[04:17] <slipaway172> but mine happens say less than 3 times a month
[04:18] <Kyral> or Totem
[04:18] <jackhanna> http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer
[04:18] <jackhanna> othernoob.. this site is your god
[04:18] <seth_k> !ubuntuguide
[04:18] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[04:18] <dbernar1> eternale1: you can add the menu.
[04:18] <cwillu> bddebian?
[04:18] <eternale1> how
[04:19] <eternale1> im like adding each section of the menu
[04:19] <eternale1> seperatley
[04:19] <jackhanna> I can't seem to find info on getting dri working on a Rage XL... any clues?
[04:19] <seth_k> jackhanna, please see ubotu's remark... don't use ubuntuguide. Use the wiki instead
[04:19] <eternale1> but i want them how it was
[04:19] <neoliminal> maybe I just need to find a ps2 mouse
[04:19] <neoliminal> :(
[04:19] <cwillu> jackhanna... ubuntuguide.org is deprecated
[04:19] <cwillu> heh
[04:20] <bddebian> cwillu: Yes?
[04:20] <cwillu> you have one of those ps2/usb adapters that comes with everymouse these days? :)
[04:20] <Kyral> neoliminal, maybe
[04:20] <jackhanna> really.. .hmm.. it always helps me
[04:20] <cwillu> I pooched my system :(
[04:20] <neoliminal> hrm...
[04:20] <Kyral> pooched?
[04:20] <jackhanna> accept for getting the boot splash working that is
[04:20] <cwillu> I need a hug :(
[04:20] <bddebian> cwillu: ??
[04:20] <neoliminal> I don't think that I kept it
[04:20] <neoliminal> let me look
[04:20] <cwillu> flashed the bios using the bios util...
[04:20] <cwillu> it doesn't post any more
[04:20] <Kyral> cwillu, you know we are guys
[04:20] <bddebian> cwillu: Doh :'-(
[04:20] <othernoob> thanks jackhamma
[04:21] <othernoob> hanna*
[04:21] <eternale1> nevermind dbernar1 iman idiot i found it
[04:21] <eternale1> i think
[04:22] <Big_O> erm hi
[04:22] <dbernar1> bah/
[04:22] <dbernar1> ya, well, its there, but, I mean, happens.
[04:22] <Big_O> ok i need a sound mixer for fluxbox
[04:22] <Big_O> sorry to bug you with this
[04:22] <cwillu> it was the right bios, the floppy md5's okay
[04:22] <Big_O> alsamixer isnt working
[04:22] <jackhanna> so what's the deal.. the wiki says my rage is supported using dri.. but it's not enabled in glxinfo
[04:23] <Big_O> and the drivers are all screwed
[04:23] <pmiller9> does anyone have experience w/ external 5.25" drive enclosures?  I want to put a nec dvd burner it one... what's a good device that'll work with linux?  usb2 or firewire?
[04:23] <neoliminal> ok, I'm lost
[04:24] <Big_O> you want me to rephrase that dbernar1 >.>... im pretty sure i can append some refferences to you if you want
[04:24] <CarlK> pmiller9 - I hear it works
[04:24] <cwillu> looks like its another sleepless night with linux :(
[04:24] <jackhanna> oh usb is great for mice and stuff... but leave the high speed transfers to firewire...
[04:25] <jackhanna> thanks dell and you fuckers for humping usb2 all over the place
[04:25] <x_or> I've been having some trouble installing packages onto a couple of brand new systems.  It keeps telling me that there is an MD5 mismatch.  I am confused because I haven't edited /etc/apt/sources.list or anything.
[04:25] <Kyral> so can anyone recc a good PCI Firewire card then?
[04:25] <adwait> hey ppl........good morning/evening
[04:25] <Tsunamii`Anime> morning/evening
[04:25] <bddebian> Hello adwait
[04:25] <kcburyshaker> damn  what is up with this ubuntu update server
[04:26] <kcburyshaker> i wish it would speed up
[04:26] <bddebian> kcburyshaker: Is it the us mirror?
[04:26] <kcburyshaker> how do i know   this is a fresh install
[04:26] <jackhanna> I'm really not finding this wiki as easy to use as the ubuntufaq
[04:26] <adwait> anybody knows how to get dynamic fonts to work on firefox
[04:26] <kcburyshaker> less than an hour old
[04:26] <adwait> ?
[04:26] <kcburyshaker> im brand new
[04:26] <bddebian> kcburyshaker: Are you in the US?
[04:26] <IceDC571> jackhanna: ubuntufaq??
[04:26] <neoliminal> ok, the mouse is just not working
[04:26] <kcburyshaker> yes
[04:26] <neoliminal> no idea why
[04:27] <jackhanna> ubuntuguide.org
[04:27] <jackhanna> sry
[04:27] <IceDC571> yeah i was wondering..
[04:27] <adwait> neoliminal: connected properly? proper drivers loaded?
[04:27] <neoliminal> is there a boot option for fixing usb problems?
[04:27] <adwait> hey how abt my question? dynamic fonts in firefox? anybody......?
[04:27] <x_or> Anyone able to install emacs21 recently?  I get an MD5 error on a brand new 5.04 system.
[04:27] <bddebian> kcburyshaker: Then it is probably hitting the US mirror.  I was having problems with it to.  If you have a fast connection, try changing your sources.list to point to uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:28] <kcburyshaker> how do i change it
[04:28] <neoliminal> mouse turns dark after "starting hotplug subsystem..."
[04:28] <neoliminal> adwait:
[04:28] <bddebian> kcburyshaker: Use an editor to modify /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:29] <adwait> neoliminal : yeah?
[04:29] <neoliminal> mouse turns dark after "starting hotplug subsystem..."
[04:29] <adwait> ooh ok..
[04:29] <Kyral> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:29] <jackhanna> I meen.. really guys.. it's quick and easy faq for ubuntu
[04:30] <bimberi> !repositories
[04:30] <ubotu> it has been said that repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:30] <bddebian> I would disuade the useof Ubuntuguide but YMMV.
[04:31] <jackhanna> I like how it's quick and easy to find stuff.. it's just all layed out...
[04:31] <jdrake> Is there any way of installing ubuntu but using the kernel that is 2.6.11 (or greater?). My system hardware requires at least that version due to a bug in the sata that prevents the controller from being detected.
[04:31] <adwait> jdrake: i am not sure....but is the kernel u want listed in synaptic
[04:32] <jackhanna> any advice on DRI with my rage XL.. I can't find info anywhere on it
[04:32] <neoliminal> One last appeal for help with my mouse...
[04:32] <jackhanna> and the FAQ says it should be supporting DRI by default
[04:32] <jackhanna> but it's not
[04:32] <HrdwrBoB> jdrake: not easily
[04:32] <stetyR> hello
[04:32] <madmavric> hey how come im getting md5sum check error when trying to install packages?
[04:32] <jdrake> adwait, i have no idea because I need to be able to install with that kernel first
[04:32] <ed1t> in gaim, is there any option to flash the window when i receive a message like AIM on windows?
[04:32] <neoliminal> USB mouse fails after "starting hotplug subsystem"
[04:32] <HrdwrBoB> ed1t: yes
[04:33] <HrdwrBoB> in the plugins
[04:33] <ed1t> HrdwrBoB,  where do i get that plugin?
[04:33] <epohs> is it possible to change the "uid" on an ext3 mountpoint?
[04:33] <adwait> jdrake: aah......so u can boot at al?
[04:33] <HrdwrBoB> ed1t: preferences-> plugins
[04:33] <jackhanna> neoliminal, did you disable PNP and legisy USB support in your bios?
[04:33] <HrdwrBoB> ed1t: tick 'Message Notification'
[04:33] <adwait> epohs: i guess...../etc/fstab
[04:33] <madmavric> did ubuntu change something so you cant download packages from other sources than theirs? md5 checksum errors all the time now?
[04:34] <epohs> adwait: what options would i use?
[04:34] <nickrud> madmavric you can still use those debs, they are simply not signed.
[04:34] <neoliminal> What is PNP?
[04:34] <neoliminal> jackhanna?
[04:34] <adwait> epohs: at the end, in the options coloumn, uid = <uidnumeber NOT username>
[04:34] <bddebian> Plug and Pray?
[04:34] <jackhanna> plug and play
[04:34] <madmavric> well synaptic or apt=get wont let me install them
[04:34] <neoliminal> I didn't disable that.
[04:34] <adwait> lol bddebian
[04:34] <HrdwrBoB> legacy not legisy :)
[04:34] <jackhanna> or.. pray as db noted
[04:34] <ed1t> thx HrdwrBoB
[04:34] <neoliminal> I did legacy support
[04:34] <HrdwrBoB> ed1t: np
[04:34] <neoliminal> I'll try disable pnp
[04:34] <jdrake> adwait, i know the last release (hoary?) did not work
[04:35] <bimberi> madmavric: Are you using the US repositories?
[04:35] <jackhanna> disable legacy!
[04:35] <eno> does anyone know anything about java?  what is exiting with error (1)?
[04:35] <madmavric> i forget what im using, but it used to work fine
[04:35] <madmavric> let me look
[04:35] <epohs> adwait, could i do that outside of fstab with mount -o uid=<uidnumber> ? cause it doesn't seem to be working
[04:35] <eno> errcode(1)
[04:35] <bimberi> madmavric: Apparently there is an issue with the us mirrors atm
[04:35] <adwait> jdrake: k....so u dont hv ubuntu installed? hmm......well......maybe u could try the devlopment release breezy.not sure which kernel it uses
[04:35] <eno> acutally I am sure there is a java channel
[04:36] <jackhanna> this may help with that firewire DVD question
[04:36] <jackhanna> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootFromFirewireHardDisk
[04:36] <eno> so don't bother.  thanks for your help with the thing before folks
[04:36] <madmavric> im using backports for one
[04:36] <adwait> epohs: u dont want to permananntly change the uid?
[04:36] <madmavric> deb us archives
[04:36] <adwait> !kernel breezy
[04:36] <ubotu> adwait: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:36] <jdrake> adwait, distrowatch indicates that there is a snapshot that uses .12
[04:36] <madmavric> so you think its the us deb sources are bad?
[04:37] <bddebian> There was a problem.  Dunno if it has been fixed
[04:37] <epohs> adwait: no, actually i am mounting an already existing directory into a different location using "--bind"
[04:37] <madmavric> well i keep getting md5 checksum errors
[04:37] <madmavric> grrrrr
[04:37] <bimberi> madmavric: No.
[04:39] <madmavric> ok
[04:39] <adwait> madmavric: is the DNS srver ok? mine wasnt working a few days ago? whn u apt-get install......does it show the correct ip addresS?
[04:39] <bddebian> epohs: Why are you doing that?
[04:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bddebian YOU ROCK MAN! ^_^
[04:39] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Bah, thx man :-)
[04:39] <madmavric> let me check that
[04:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[04:39] <epohs> adwait: could i use "-o uid" in conjunction with "gid", or would that screw something up?
[04:40] <kitchen> can I take the lazy way out and report an md5sum error on hoary/main libgnet2.0-0 2.0.4-1 here rather than looking for a proper buzilla/mantis/whatever interface?
[04:40] <bddebian> madmavric: Or you can force it to use uk.archive.ubuntu.com and see if you get the same results
[04:40] <madmavric> its saying 11 resources temporarily unavailable here
[04:40] <adwait> i guess -o means a option list......so more than one option shouldnt be a problem
[04:40] <bddebian> epohs: What are you trying to do?
[04:40] <airmikey> is Xdefaults in ubuntu or do i need to create file
[04:41] <ablyss> under xfce4 certain application will close but when i run gnome system monitor the processes are still there.  Seems certain ones stick more than others like Nautilus, Xmms.  Any thoughts on this?
[04:41] <madmavric> libgnet is the one thats giving me problems atm
[04:41] <epohs> bddebian: well, i have a custom script that activates anonymous ftp, and mounts a directory that contains my MP3s into the "ftp" directory, but that directory is owned by my local user account...... this may be a totally dumbass way to do it. I'm open to suggestions
[04:41] <bimberi> madmavric: don't know about that repo
[04:41] <kitchen> madmavric, I'm getting md5sum errors on that here too
[04:42] <kitchen> from us.archive
[04:42] <madmavric> ok
[04:42] <tom1> question - how can i get the install CD to boot on an ATAPI cd drive?
[04:42] <neoliminal> ok
[04:42] <bddebian> epohs: Do you just want the anonymous ftp to read or are they uploading too?
[04:42] <neoliminal> it's not working
[04:43] <epohs> bddebian: I would like them to only read
[04:43] <nickrud> airmikey there are existing x defaults under /etc/X11/Xresources; you can copy parts or all of those to ~/.Xdefaults and modify to suit
[04:43] <bddebian> tom1: Should "just work"tm  but it depends on your BIOS and the age of your machine
[04:43] <madmavric> must be a problem on their end, ill try in a day or two
[04:43] <bddebian> epohs: What is the current rights on that folder?
[04:43] <bddebian> madmavric: You got the same thing with the uk repo?
[04:43] <madmavric> im just using us and backports here
[04:43] <tom1> bddebian: i'm not sure if the problem is with the actual ATAPI drive being that, but it says "bootlinux: faild to locate CD-ROM drive: boot failed"
[04:44] <epohs> bddebian: drwsr-xr-x
[04:44] <bddebian> epohs: That should be fine.  Just create a symbolic link to that directory
[04:44] <ed1t> HrdwrBoB, is there any plugin where i can see the notification when someone signs on or off?
[04:44] <ed1t> in gaim
[04:44] <fr500> hello
[04:44] <HrdwrBoB> ed1t: yes
[04:44] <madmavric> thought maybe the folks at ubuntu were putting a stop to people installing packages they didnt approve of or something
[04:44] <bimberi> madmavric: Give the uk repos a try - you might get it going now
[04:44] <epohs> bddebian: proftpd doesn't seem to like symlinks
[04:45] <HrdwrBoB> ed1t: same thing, there's a notification plugin
[04:45] <bddebian> tom1: Are there any message before that?
[04:45] <bddebian> epohs: Ah
[04:45] <bimberi> madmavric: No way.  That is _not_ freedom.
[04:45] <tom1> bddebian: loading spec packet failed.....
[04:45] <fr500> i have 4 200gb hdds, is there a way for them to act likone big one?
[04:45] <adwait> anybody for my dynamic fonts problem?
[04:45] <vinux> hey guys what's the command to configure my xorg again?
[04:45] <madmavric> bim ok, ill just try again tommorrow, dont feal like editing apt source list atm
[04:45] <bddebian> fr500: lvm
[04:45] <airmikey> nickrud: when i type ~/.Xdefaults     nothin comes up
[04:45] <seth_k> vinux: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:45] <bimberi> fr500: lvm (linux volume management)
[04:46] <bimberi> madmavric: k
[04:46] <nickrud> airmikey you create it, I should have been more clear, sorry :)
[04:46] <airmikey> eror ...couldnt find
[04:46] <seth_k> adwait: it would be better if you were more specific
[04:46] <adwait> lvm= LOGICAL volume Management
[04:46] <airmikey> ok  cool
[04:46] <ed1t> HrdwrBoB, it gives an option for notification on going or returning from away...not for sign in/off
[04:46] <bimberi> adwait: oops - thanks
[04:46] <adwait> seth_k: how do i get dynamic fonts to work with firefox
[04:46] <jugarnatha> hey y'all. How do I get totem to play .wmv's?
[04:46] <bddebian> airmikey: You copied that file?  ~ is just a link to your /home/user dir
[04:46] <vinux> seth_k, thanks
[04:46] <vinux> brb
[04:46] <HrdwrBoB> ed1t: whatever's there is there
[04:47] <seth_k> adwait: dynamic fonts? :/ call me slow, but I've never heard of such a thing
[04:47] <bddebian> tom1: Any errors about /dev/hdb or some such?
[04:47] <ed1t> HrdwrBoB,  is there any other AIM client?
[04:47] <tom1> bddebian: nope
[04:47] <madmavric> i just wanted to grab some mp3's off of newsgroups quick to test some aps here , ill get em off my windoz machine
[04:47] <HrdwrBoB> ed1t: not that's any good
[04:47] <adwait> seth_k: umm...well u know, if a website uses a special u need not download it, it is embedded in the web page itself
[04:47] <epohs> bddebian: do you think this isn't going to work the way i have it invisioned?
[04:47] <steven_> i have a red hat cd and an ubuntu cd
[04:47] <seth_k> adwait: ah ha, got you now
[04:47] <steven_> can some one igve me the pros and cons of each
[04:47] <adwait> seth_k: its called embedded fonts as well i guess.........check www.loksatta.com
[04:47] <steven_> id appreciate it
[04:47] <airmikey> bddebian: didnt do anything yet
[04:47] <GNULinuxGeek> Can anyone tell me how to get icons back on the KDE panel such as volume control, Korganizer?  After a recent Synaptic session, they were gone.
[04:47] <bddebian> epohs: It might, just seems superfluous :-)
[04:48] <seth_k> adwait: most implementations of embedded fonts are internet-explorer-specific
[04:48] <fr500> bddebian, sorry just had a "blue screen of death"
[04:48] <jackhanna> son of a bitch.. broken md5 error... sheesh... what gives with synaptic
[04:48] <cwillu> :(
[04:48] <adwait> seth_k :(
[04:48] <epohs> bddebian: i understand, thanks. :)
[04:48] <fr500> bddebian, is it hard to configure?
[04:48] <jugarnatha> hey y'all. How do I get totem to play .wmv's? Do I need some more codecs?
[04:48] <x_or> Anyone know what repository I should add to install xMule?
[04:48] <seth_k> jackhanna: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change the us.archive... to just archive
[04:48] <bimberi> steven_: You're asking in #ubuntu?
[04:48] <adwait> seth_k: ok well then any idea if how i install a ttf font?
[04:48] <madmavric> jack im having the same problems apparently the us debian mirrors are having problems
[04:48] <steven_> i asked in #rhel
[04:48] <seth_k> jugarnatha: add te backports repositories and then apt-get install w32codecs
[04:48] <steven_> and no one knew wtf redhat was
[04:48] <bddebian> airmikey: fr500 Never used it.  I prefer hardware RAID :-)
[04:48] <adwait> lol
[04:49] <bimberi> lol
[04:49] <steven_> i mean "ubuntu" was
[04:49] <seth_k> adwait: see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers/310
[04:49] <cwillu> = (
[04:49] <jackhanna> seth_k, thanks.. I wasn't paying attention when it was asked before because I haven't had this problem before
[04:49] <nickrud> x_or you need to enable universe
[04:49] <seth_k> jackhanna: no worries
[04:49] <fr500> bddebian, ok
[04:49] <steven_> can some one tell me what makes ubuntu much better
[04:49] <Kyral> steven_, us :D
[04:49] <fr500> steven_, better than?
[04:50] <seth_k> steven_: Apt to manage packages, the excellent support, and the quick release cycles
[04:50] <seth_k> steven_: it's Debian with more updates
[04:50] <nickrud> steven_ off hand, I'd say the quality of the free support.
[04:50] <jackhanna> does anyone know what's up with the us.archive?
[04:50] <steven_> yeah this support rocks you guys do a good job
[04:50] <adwait> seth_k: got stuck on the first line itself.......type font:// in nautilius window....where? theres no place to type
[04:50] <bimberi> steven_: ... expecially in #ubuntu ;)
[04:50] <steven_> yup
[04:50] <steven_> but the thing is i dont know if its easier for me to use
[04:50] <steven_> or not
[04:50] <steven_> i have red hat right now
[04:50] <bddebian> steven_: Well it isn't better than sex if that is what you mean ;-)
[04:50] <steven_> and its a bitch i have to install so much
[04:51] <bddebian> jackhanna: Yes, it appears to be broken
[04:51] <jugarnatha> seth_k: what are backports, if you don't mind my asking. I have w32codecs installed, I believe.
[04:51] <steven_> lol i didnt think it was
[04:51] <jackhanna> hmm
[04:51] <seth_k> jugarnatha: see http://backports.ubuntuforums.org
[04:51] <fr500> steven_, it's easier than red hat
[04:51] <seth_k> !backports
[04:51] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[04:51] <madmavric> when ubuntu gets broken for a user, but still works in root, can you just delte that users account and create a new one, and everything will work again?
[04:51] <jugarnatha> seth_k: thanks. I will.
[04:52] <steven_> i ordered the cds like 3 months ago
[04:52] <nickrud> madmavric maybe, depending on the problems. Create a new user without deleting the old, and test.
[04:52] <steven_> and i got them in today
[04:52] <adwait> madmavric: sure...if the user messed up something real bad.......
[04:52] <bddebian> steven_: So get installing! ;-)
[04:52] <madmavric> ok thanks
[04:52] <steven_> ughh
[04:52] <steven_> i want too
[04:53] <fr500> madmavric, if it's your only sudoer, i think u may need to add one more sudoer or enable the root account
[04:53] <madmavric> thats the point behind not using root i assume, is to keep the core os working properly
[04:53] <nickrud> madmavric to give the new user sudo rights, as root adduser <new user> admin
[04:53] <bimberi> steven_: go on - you know you want to
[04:53] <madmavric> nick thanks
[04:53] <steven_> loll Linux peer pressure
[04:53] <bimberi> steven_: Those people on the CD cover look so happy :)
[04:54] <steven_> LOLLL THEY DOOO
[04:54] <steven_> ROFLL
[04:54] <steven_> bimberi one thing i want to do that redhat cant do is
[04:54] <airmikey> nickrud: how do i create it or where do i go
[04:54] <steven_> i want to watch wmv's on firefox
[04:54] <Chipmunk> Newbie question: I am running the Live CD. Managed to mount my NTFS hard drive and I can see the contents. But I need to say sudo each time. How do I browse the filesystem using th GUI tools?
[04:54] <jedix> does anyone know where I can get an nvtv?
[04:54] <madmavric> well ive got root login setup on my ubuntu machine, its a lot easier to edit files that way
[04:54] <steven_> and i want better media support
[04:54] <nickrud> airmikey touch ~/.Xdefaults will create the file, with nothing in it.
[04:55] <adwait> Chopmunk: in the fstab in the options end pur uid=1000 guid=1000 (assuming ur the first user created
[04:55] <adwait> *Chipmunk
[04:55] <cwillu> oh well... overnighting a new bios chip apparently
[04:55] <Chipmunk> adwait: I havent installed it yet, just trying using the Live CD.
[04:55] <bddebian> cwillu: phew :-)
[04:55] <airmikey> nickrud : type that in a terminal
[04:55] <Chipmunk> can I supply the uid to mount?
[04:55] <bimberi> steven_: media support not my area.  I hear that mplayer + firefox makes a good combo
[04:55] <nickrud> airmikey yes
[04:55] <airmikey> cool
[04:55] <airmikey> right on
[04:56] <cwillu> there were updates, but I still don't know whether that fixes anything, or just gets me back to square one :)
[04:56] <steven_> oh
[04:56] <BluesRocker> Hi, can somebody help mi with modem, please?
[04:56] <madmavric> i like xine or vlc myself
[04:56] <adwait> Chipmunk: i think so.........mount /dev/hdX blah blah -o uid=1000
[04:56] <steven_> where can i find out abou tthat
[04:56] <bddebian> steven_: Find out about what?
[04:56] <Chipmunk> adwait: Okay, let me trry that. Thanks.
[04:56] <steven_> If i can watch wmv's
[04:56] <bddebian> BluesRocker: Just ask, we'll try
[04:56] <steven_> on like fire fox
[04:56] <BluesRocker> tnx
[04:56] <steven_> lets say i go to launch.com to watch music videos
[04:57] <bddebian> steven_: Should be able to, though you might need w32codecs or some such
[04:57] <BluesRocker> modem is installed, and hears phone signal, but dont dial number
[04:57] <steven_> will they be easy to install on ubuntu
[04:57] <speel> hey in all honesty what programing is the easyest to learn?
[04:57] <bddebian> steven_: Of course :-)
[04:57] <adwait> steven_: sure......just install a firefox plugin called media connector
[04:57] <madmavric> steven if you want some good tips for installing things in ubuntu, try this link www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:58] <nickrud> steven_ I use mozilla-mplayer to watch on line video (when I'm not on dialup :)
[04:58] <jackhanna> :)
[04:58] <steven_> wow
[04:58] <steven_> =)
[04:58] <steven_> I WANT UBUNTU
[04:58] <adwait> speel: depends on wht u wanna do really....because once u learn any language learning another is just a matter of learing a new syntax
[04:58] <Chipmunk> adwait: Great, that worked, thanks! Now that I know it can read my hard drive, I think I'll install Ubunto dual-boot
[04:58] <steven_> but heres the thing
[04:58] <bddebian> BluesRocker: Dial?? WTF is that?? :-)
[04:58] <steven_> i used to have ubuntu
[04:58] <steven_> but i didnt know how to install things
[04:58] <steven_> using repos and apts
[04:58] <steven_> sounds so confusing
[04:58] <BluesRocker> its dial up modem :)
[04:58] <steven_> maybe i didnt learn how to do it
[04:58] <tiglionabbit> !synaptic
[04:58] <ubotu> I heard synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:58] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[04:58] <madmavric> steven did you see that link i posted?
[04:58] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:58] <bddebian> steven_: So use synaptic or aptitude
[04:58] <adwait> Chipmunk: welcome! now ur an ubuntite/ubuntuer/...
[04:58] <adwait> ;)
[04:58] <tiglionabbit> steven_: read those, then you will
[04:58] <nickrud> steven_ a repository is a web address that contains packages you can download
[04:59] <steven_> yes i did
[04:59] <steven_> oh ok
[04:59] <steven_> and whats an apt
[04:59] <madmavric> ok wiki and ubuntuguide are both very helpful
[04:59] <nickrud> steven_ apt is heaven :)
[04:59] <madmavric> apt-get is command line version of synaptic
[04:59] <adwait> steven_: apt is a software to download and install apps on ubuntu
[04:59] <tiglionabbit> !apt
[04:59] <ubotu> apt is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[04:59] <steven_> oh ok
[04:59] <bddebian> steven_: apt is a front-end for dpkg to install packages
[04:59] <steven_> i see
[04:59] <Chipmunk> adwait: or Ubuntee, or just a Ubunt :)
[04:59] <steven_> Hmm
[04:59] <Chipmunk> thanks again. later...
[05:00] <adwait> Chipmunk: hehe.....yeah we were just discussing tht the other day :)
[05:00] <steven_> ok i think ubuntu
[05:00] <madmavric> read those guides steven, theyre easy to follow
[05:00] <steven_> is looking good
[05:00] <nickrud> steven_ apt is a library, used by synaptic, aptitude, apt-get, and others, that resolves dependencies for you.
[05:00] <steven_> ok
[05:00] <speel> adwait, well i dont know really i just want to learn a lang then dive into diffrent programs and such
[05:01] <jackhanna> removing us. really messed up synaptic
[05:01] <adwait> speel: hmm......well i would say start of with c++......once u get ur class concepts strong java and other language should not be a problem.
[05:01] <adwait> besides c++ is the most used language (i think.......)
[05:01] <PlutoPrime> is there some method to check / verify the contents of a CD/DVD after they are burnt?
[05:01] <bimberi> jackhanna: you'll need to reload
[05:01] <PlutoPrime> it seems like neither Graveman/GnomeBaker support "verify"
[05:01] <speel> hmm ok ty il check it out
[05:01] <steven_> and you guys say i can have kde on ubuntu right
[05:02] <nickrud> PlutoPrime you can md5sum a mounted iso (for example, md5sum /dev/hdc)
[05:02] <adwait> steven_: if u like that inferior desktop ;)
[05:02] <jackhanna> thanks bimberi
[05:02] <bddebian> speel: C is probably the most "fundamental" language.  Very little syntax and very powerful.  But, learning all the associated things with C can get VERY complex
[05:02] <madmavric> ya its called kubuntu, but its somewhat more buggy than ubuntu
[05:02] <bimberi> steven_: yep - it's called kubuntu
[05:02] <adwait> steven_: try the KDA version of ubuntu....kubuntu
[05:02] <bimberi> jackhanna: yw
[05:02] <bddebian> steven_: That would be kubuntu
[05:02] <PlutoPrime> nickrud, what it's a backup DVD and from files on the harddisk
[05:02] <steven_> ohh and is that better
[05:02] <steven_> how do i get it
[05:02] <jackhanna> I'm still getting no such dir from 4 of my repositories
[05:02] <madmavric> kubuntu is buggy
[05:02] <steven_> are all of you using ubuntu
[05:02] <jackhanna> all of them are archive.ubuntu.com
[05:02] <PlutoPrime> nickrud, I'm mainly worried about making sure my backups are all valid files and a good burn
[05:02] <adwait> steven_: download fromnet
[05:03] <madmavric> ive tried kubuntu, its not as good
[05:03] <steven_> fromnet?
[05:03] <bimberi> steven_: http://kubuntu.org
[05:03] <adwait> *frm the net
[05:03] <jackhanna> stephan.. it's on of the distros I'm playing with
[05:03] <nickrud> PlutoPrime well, at one time, my backup was create an iso, md5sum it, write the disk, md5sum that, and compare
[05:03] <speel> well with C it looks like you have to do alot in order to get somthing simple done
[05:03] <jackhanna> I still like Suse better I think
[05:03] <madmavric> i use either ubuntu or xandros here
[05:03] <bddebian> Xandros???  Is that still even being produced? :-)
[05:03] <madmavric> suse has dependency issues all the time
[05:03] <adwait> speel: if u want a GUI yes......but its powerful for backbone programming
[05:03] <bimberi> steven_: (I use ubuntu though - haven't tried kubuntu)
[05:03] <rob^> !w32codecs
[05:03] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is codecs needed to play some proprietary formats.  Add a backports mirror to download them http://backports.ubuntuforums.org
[05:03] <steven_> oh ok
[05:03] <madmavric> bddebian yep
[05:03] <jackhanna> madmavric, I've never had a prob
[05:04] <fr500> steven_, compared to ubuntu, somethings need polishing
[05:04] <jackhanna> and I love yast
[05:04] <fr500> steven_, you have a sudoers issue on install i think
[05:04] <bddebian> speel: If you REALLY want to get into it, learn assembler first and build from there :-)
[05:04] <madmavric> xandros works extremely well straight outta the box, but its a little bit slower than ubuntu
[05:04] <steven_> oh really
[05:04] <speel> ah assembly is like down and dirty Lol
[05:04] <JDahl> isn't there a package called w32codecs? I can't find it with apt-cache search, and I think I enabled all repositories looking for it
[05:04] <jackhanna> madmavric, so does suse and it's free
[05:05] <madmavric> so is xandros
[05:05] <bddebian> JDahl: I think it may only be availabe from backports?
[05:05] <madmavric> open circulation edition
[05:05] <fr500> jackhanna, my ubuntu works wonderful out of the box
[05:05] <jackhanna> don't they charge for the latest
[05:05] <bddebian> You mean Novell?
[05:05] <adwait> speel: sure......u can even use assembly commands in c
[05:05] <madmavric> they have a open circ editon of their latest distro
[05:06] <madmavric> it doesnt have firefox,
[05:06] <jackhanna> fr500, all major distos do... but yast has a great feel to it and makes configing complicated stuff easy with a gui
[05:06] <madmavric> or a good cd burning ap
[05:06] <madmavric> other than that its the same
[05:06] <bddebian> yast better than apt* ??  I think not. :-)
[05:06] <madmavric> and you can install just about anything thru xandros networks, which is their version of synaptic
[05:06] <jackhanna> bddebian, ?
[05:06] <jackhanna> yast does much more than just getting packages..
[05:07] <jugarnatha> seth_k: hmm. still no wmv files will play. The apt-get reported that I had the latest codecs
[05:07] <jackhanna> it configs hardware and services
[05:07] <bddebian> jackhanna: Yeah, I know. :-)
[05:07] <madmavric> i really cant stand suse, sorry jack
[05:07] <madmavric> hehe
[05:07] <madmavric> give me a good debian distro any day of the week
[05:07] <jackhanna> ok.. I'm just saying..for a linux noob.. suse is a nice choice
[05:08] <dicrapio> how can i disable the blank screen from going off after being idle?
[05:08] <madmavric> in fact one day when my chipset gets supported under debian, ill install pure debian my way
[05:08] <nickrud> jugarnatha http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger/test.html is a good test site for web media. Not all wmvs are equal
[05:08] <JDahl> bddebian, ok.. I was reading a HOWTO on streaming in Firefox, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17727. It's supposed to be for Hoary, but maybe the guide is wrong about w32codecs
[05:08] <jackhanna> you can argue geek linix all day long... and both people will be correct.. I just find Suse easier for new users to get into
[05:08] <madmavric> im still a noob
[05:09] <madmavric> probably always will be, but debian just seems to have more online support than any other distro ive tried
[05:09] <bimberi> dicrapio: Systems -> Preferneces -> Screen Saver ?
[05:09] <jackhanna> installing mplayer in suse is as easy as using adding packman in yast and using the gui to check mplayer.. it installs everything you need
[05:09] <jackhanna> with a click
[05:09] <bddebian> JDahl: Do you have universe and multiverse in your sources.list?
[05:09] <JDahl> bddebian, yes
[05:09] <nickrud> I've been using debian for almost 5 years, but, I'll be networking some computers soon and I guarantee I'll have some truly noob questions soon :)
[05:09] <adwait> he
[05:09] <adwait> h
[05:09] <jackhanna> brb
[05:10] <dicrapio> hmm, forgot im ubuntu, im on kubuntu
[05:10] <dicrapio> is not a screensaver
[05:10] <dicrapio> i think is xorg's default blank screen
[05:10] <rebort> anybody help me here...
[05:10] <adwait> rebort: with wht?
[05:10] <rebort> startx, xinit /usr/bin/whatever, sudo gdm
[05:10] <madmavric> ill probalby me putting a tv card in here eventually, and use tvtime
[05:11] <rebort> all just do nothing
[05:11] <rebort> there is no X error log written
[05:11] <rebort> the first two just fail with "server error" and nothign else, to tty or to /var/log
[05:11] <bimberi> dicrapio: not sure sorry.  Tried #kubuntu?
[05:11] <adwait> rebortt: when u start the pc.......do u go to the command prompt?
[05:11] <dicrapio> k
[05:11] <PlutoPrime> I have to say my experience with both graveman and gnomebaker is horrible... they seem like half hearted attempts that are abandoned already\
[05:11] <madmavric> time to jet, later all
[05:12] <PlutoPrime> I just burnt a dvd with graveman and it took it 25 minutes and wasting and entire dvd to tell me "Sorry files couldn't fit"
[05:12] <adwait> lol
[05:12] <PlutoPrime> I mean... that's really sad
[05:12] <PlutoPrime> why don't the projects merge and make something half as decent and Nero?
[05:13] <nickrud> PlutoPrime I've also had problems with those, I installed k3b for things I can't do on the command line or in nautilus
[05:13] <rebort>     whoa it is hard to keep track of irc on centericq
[05:13] <Frank_dot> quick question: is the k7 kernel the best one for Ubuntu32 on amd64?
[05:13] <PlutoPrime> nickrud, I think I'm going to buy Nero for linux
[05:13] <PlutoPrime> I heard it actually works as advertised
[05:13] <nickrud> back, satan!
[05:13] <HrdwrBoB> Frank_dot: yes
[05:14] <IceDC571> lol nero for linux?
[05:14] <Frank_dot> is it better than k3b? (Nero)
[05:14] <PlutoPrime> IceDC571, yup
[05:14] <rebort> no its not better than k3b
[05:14] <rebort> in my opinion having USED it
[05:14] <Frank_dot> HrdwrBoB: thanks
[05:14] <IceDC571> i say the terminal is the best way to burn stuff in
[05:14] <rebort> but it is better than graveman/gnomebaker
[05:14] <PlutoPrime> IceDC571, I live in 21st century thank you :)
[05:14] <PlutoPrime> I don't want to remember commands
[05:14] <nickrud> I use the terminal for quickies, but, remembering commands :)
[05:15] <rebort> terminal is good for some things, not good for otehrs
[05:15] <IceDC571> cdrdao isnt that hard
[05:15] <rebort> but thats all opinion
[05:15] <bddebian> terminals ROCK
[05:15] <PlutoPrime> and you know... this comes from someone who lived with minimalist DEs and distros such as gentoo
[05:15] <IceDC571> bddebian :)
[05:15] <dave123> hi there i have a basic question regarding modules, how come when i do lsmod i see so many modules loaded, but when i do "cat /etc/modules" it shows only like 3 modules?
[05:15] <nickrud> no, not hard, but if you don't use it regularly, you have to keep looking up options.
[05:15] <PlutoPrime> there came a point where I said, enough is enough.. I wanna get work done on my computer
[05:15] <jsgotangco> if k3b doesn't fit to your liking, then there is no gui option that is better for you
[05:16] <IceDC571> i was a complete linux noob, k3b didnt work for me so i just used the terminal and i learned it in like a minute
[05:16] <ketiko> dave123: Some of the modules are loaded as dependencies of those modules
[05:16] <rebort> dave123: i believe /etc/modules is just a place to specify modules that arent otherwise being loaded
[05:16] <ketiko> dave123: and some are loaded by hotplug
[05:16] <rebort> or ketiko knows a lot more than i do
[05:16] <nickrud> well, the terminal does rock ;)
[05:16] <kcburyshaker> do the powers that be know of the slowdown on that ubuntu update server?
[05:16] <ketiko> dave123: for instance, if it detects a USB device
[05:16] <PlutoPrime> it does rock :)
[05:16] <PlutoPrime> as long as there are awesome guis avaialable too
[05:17] <bddebian> :-)
[05:17] <dicrapio> where can i place a command to be executed when i log into X or kde?
[05:17] <dave123> ok i just did something stupid i put something that was shown in lsmod in my .etc.modiules, i better go take it off now before i screw something up :)
[05:17] <nickrud> dicrapio well, for gnome, you can use .gnomerc :)
[05:18] <adwait> dicrapio: if u want to run an app at startup....u could login, run the app then in the log out menu select to save the config or whtever and logout
[05:18] <rebort> or gnome session manager...
[05:18] <Frank_dot> does anyone know how to switch the kde konqueror behaviour to "Windows style"   (double click instead of single click to open) I can't find it
[05:19] <dicrapio> nah, i need to place 'xset s off' somewhere so the Xserver doesnt enable the screen to go blank afte a while
[05:19] <rebort> i dont use kde, but i think you want the startup wizard
[05:19] <Frank_dot> rebort: I'll try to find it
[05:20] <bddebian> dicrapio: Maybe you can put it in a .Xsession file?
[05:20] <nickrud> dicrapio there's bound to be an option kdecontrol somewhere haveing to do with screensavers; otherwise, remove option DPMS from xorg.conf
[05:20] <adwait> umm....im out ppl bbye
[05:20] <rebort> Frank_dot: use the find dialog :P
[05:20] <fr500> has anyone used evms?
[05:21] <dicrapio> ill try that
[05:21] <kcburyshaker> is anyone else having issues with the update server?
[05:22] <bddebian> kcburyshaker: Yes, the US mirror has problems.  Did you ever try the UK mirror?
[05:22] <JDahl> what does "apt-cache search w32codecs" tell you guys? I can't find it, but there's a gazillion webpages refering to it for Hoary
[05:22] <kcburyshaker> no   im brand new to ubuntu
[05:23] <PlutoPrime> JDahl, do you have backports repositories added?
[05:23] <kcburyshaker> i dont know where to start
[05:23] <bddebian> kcburyshaker: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:23] <Kyral> JDahl, add the Backports to your repos
[05:23] <cwillu> it keeps getting better and better
[05:23] <nickrud> JDahl I won't find it that way, since I don't have the ubuntu backports enabled
[05:23] <Kyral> !BeginnersGuide
[05:23] <ubotu> Kyral: I don't know
[05:23] <bddebian> kcburyshaker: Change the archive.ubuntu.com to uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:23] <cwillu> asus tech support sent me an email of isntructions to get my bios chip
[05:23] <Kyral> !UbuntuGuide
[05:23] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[05:23] <JDahl> PlutoPrime, nope... but why is it in backports?
[05:23] <cwillu> as it turns out, I can no longer log into my email, from anywhere
[05:24] <Ne0-Aw> Hi everyone, how do I stop mysql and start it again so I can make a change to my.cnf
[05:24] <cwillu> of course, by now this has absolutely nothing to do with ubuntu, or linux even...
[05:24] <nickrud> oh, ubotu IS smart
[05:24] <PlutoPrime> additional unoffical updates for ubuntu after release, it includes things such as w32codecs
[05:24] <kcburyshaker> ok bddebian  what next
[05:24] <cwillu> and so, I call the tech support line for my email provider
[05:24] <cwillu> press 1-2-3-1-1-2-1
[05:24] <bddebian> kcburyshaker: Save the file and re-run synaptic or apt-get
[05:25] <PlutoPrime> JDahl, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org
[05:25] <bddebian> kcburyshaker: Do an update first of course
[05:25] <bimberi> Ne0-Aw: (this is a guess) "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop"
[05:25] <inc595> sup channel
[05:25] <cwillu> tell the guy the email address.  "um, okay, but I'm not sure exactly why you're calling us, we don't have anything to do with that email domain"
[05:25] <bddebian> Ne0-Aw: Aye, "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart"
[05:25] <cwillu> I can't win :(
[05:25] <bddebian> cwillu: :-(
[05:25] <kcburyshaker> bd debian  may i pvt you?
[05:25] <Ne0-Aw> thank you
[05:25] <bimberi> bddebian: tks
[05:25] <JDahl> PlutoPrime, thanks
[05:26] <Ne0-Aw> bimberi and bddebian
[05:26] <PlutoPrime> welcome
[05:26] <bddebian> kcburyshaker: Sure
[05:26] <Tsunamii`Anime> does Ubuntu have any other default browsers?
[05:26] <Tsunamii`Anime> can't seem to download this file
[05:26] <bimberi> Ne0-Aw: yw
[05:26] <Ne0-Aw> so /etc/init.d keeps track of all things that start up automatically
[05:26] <Ne0-Aw> mysql apache etc ?
[05:26] <bddebian> Ne0-Aw: Yes
[05:26] <Ne0-Aw> first day trying to setup the whole LAMP business
[05:26] <fr500> i just wanna know if the ubuntu stock kernel is EVMS ready
[05:26] <nickrud> Tsunamii I tend to use galeon and epiphany as my browsers
[05:27] <kUser> fr500: yes
[05:27] <Tsunamii> are they default, or do they require download?
[05:27] <nickrud> Tsunamii download only
[05:27] <Tsunamii> ah ok, dw :P
[05:27] <PlutoPrime> WOW
[05:27] <PlutoPrime> gnomebaker acutally warned me the files are too big to fit on the dvd!
[05:27] <fr500> kUser, thx, have you used it?
[05:28] <Ne0-Aw> how can I edit my.cnf while in terminal? nano ?
[05:28] <PlutoPrime> gnomebaker: 1 , graveman: 0
[05:28] <kUser> fr500: a machine at home uses it
[05:28] <nickrud> Ne0-Aw nano works nicely
[05:29] <bddebian> Ne0-Aw: nano, vi, emacs, joe, vim, you name it.. ;-P
[05:29] <BeatYOu> what do you guys suggest for teminal text editing
[05:29] <nickrud> heh, I bit off a finger tip so I wouldn't type them all
[05:30] <bddebian> BeatYOu: I like nano but I get abused for it. :-)
[05:30] <bddebian> nickrud: :-)
[05:30] <BeatYOu> i burnted my finger with firecrackers some days ago so typing is difficult also hah
[05:30] <odie5533> My grub loader is failing and I can't edit menu.lst on knoppix. any ideas?
[05:30] <nickrud> BeatYOu nano for quickies, vim for bigger stuff
[05:30] <bddebian> BeatYOu: If you want to become a true zealot, you MUST learn emacs.. ;-P
[05:30] <bddebian> odie5533: What is failing?
[05:31] <odie5533> bddebian, grub loading >_<
[05:31] <nickrud> lol, I will bite another
[05:31] <BeatYOu> bddebian got to learn how to delete a file in terminal before that i suppose ;]
[05:31] <odie5533> I made a bad menu.lst I believe
[05:31] <odie5533> and I need to edit it from knoppix
[05:31] <bddebian> odie5533: What is the error/etc?
[05:31] <bddebian> nickrud: rofl
[05:31] <odie5533> error 25 I think I can't remember
[05:31] <odie5533> I need to edit the file menu.lst
[05:32] <odie5533> I have my root password
[05:32] <odie5533> but I dont know where to enter it to gain access
[05:32] <inc595> odie5533, what r u talking about
[05:32] <odie5533> editing a file outside of ubuntu
[05:32] <odie5533> without using
[05:32] <odie5533> sorry
[05:32] <bddebian> odie5533: Did you mount your drive under knoppix?
[05:32] <odie5533> yes
[05:32] <inc595> ok
[05:33] <inc595> just use vi odie5533
[05:33] <odie5533> it says I dont have permission
[05:33] <inc595> you su?
[05:33] <inc595> sudo su
[05:33] <bddebian> damn, beat me to it.. :-)
[05:33] <inc595> heh
[05:33] <IIIEars> odie - interested in the solution. - have had the same difficulty.
[05:34] <freddy_> coca break. brb
[05:34] <odie5533> how do I save and quit in vi?
[05:34] <cwillu> lol
[05:34] <inc595> esc
[05:34] <^thehatsrule^> use :x
[05:34] <inc595> :wq
[05:34] <^thehatsrule^> or wq
[05:34] <cwillu> who's trying to convince people to use emacs or vi?
[05:34] <^thehatsrule^> same thing
[05:34] <inc595> or x
[05:34] <freddy_> coca-COLA!
[05:34] <inc595> lol
[05:34] <odie5533> readonly set
[05:34] <BeatYOu> haha editing this in nano and read the help, but how do i save !?
[05:34] <cwillu> because they should be shot :p
[05:34] <odie5533> ! to override?
[05:34] <freddy_> not cocaine
[05:34] <ubotu> odie5533: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:34] <nickrud> not me, I recommend nano
[05:34] <bimberi> odie5533: yes
[05:35] <bddebian> Doesn't knoppix have nano?
[05:35] <IIIEars> !visudo
[05:35] <ubotu> IIIEars: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:35] <odie5533> shell returned 127
[05:35] <Tsunamii> arrg
[05:35] <bddebian> BeatYOu: ctrl-x
[05:35] <inc595> if it's read only sound like you don't have perms over it
[05:35] <odie5533> how do I force save then?
[05:35] <Tsunamii> stupid file won't download
[05:35] <freddy_> !sound
[05:35] <ubotu> I heard sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[05:35] <BeatYOu> oh that exits/saves
[05:35] <BeatYOu> thanks
[05:35] <bddebian> NP
[05:35] <inc595> odie5533, are your super user?
[05:36] <odie5533> on knoppix
[05:36] <odie5533> not ubuntu
[05:36] <odie5533> I cant get into ubuntu
[05:36] <odie5533> because my grub wont load
[05:36] <BeatYOu> anyone have expierience with allowing remote connections with MySQL
[05:36] <BeatYOu> accross lan
[05:36] <bimberi> odie5533: I think knoppix mounts readonly by default and that you can right-click on icons to mount writeable
[05:36] <odie5533> it doesnt
[05:36] <doug_> I vote for " :wq ".
[05:37] <bddebian> BeatYOu: Only using some Windows admin tools :-)
[05:37] <inc595> if you mounted the file system right you should be able to edit files
[05:37] <odie5533> however
[05:37] <nameless1> is it possible to overwrite directorys when moving files, beucase i want to do that.
[05:37] <odie5533> /boot/ normally requires a password
[05:37] <freddy_> thats it..i am buying cedega
[05:37] <odie5533> my root password
[05:37] <odie5533> but knoppix isnt asking for it
[05:37] <IIIEars> odie - knoppix gave permission errors and denied editing the menu.lst file?
[05:37] <BeatYOu> bddebian im running MySQL Administrator on my windows machine now trying to remotely connect
[05:37] <odie5533> Yes
[05:37] <odie5533> nano is great!
[05:37] <odie5533> ;)
[05:37] <doug_> How do I set a superuser password in ubunto?
[05:38] <bddebian> BeatYOu: Try SQybot I think its called.  It is awesome
[05:38] <Tsunamii> sudo root passwd <> ?
[05:38] <odie5533> no
[05:38] <odie5533> I am on knoppix
[05:38] <odie5533> >_< >_<
[05:38] <nameless1>  is it possible to overwrite directorys when moving files, beucase i want to do that.
[05:38] <Tsunamii> what's that?
[05:38] <BeatYOu> bddebian google retruns one japanese page :[
[05:38] <nickrud> bddebian I have saved my only box several times with nano, hugs should really go to AUTHORS
[05:38] <bimberi> doug_: You shouldn't need to.  "sudo" should fill your needs
[05:39] <bddebian> nameless1: Yes?
[05:39] <inc595> you try the ubuntu live cd hehe
[05:39] <bddebian> nickrud: Aye
[05:39] <nameless1> bddebian: yes, how
[05:39] <IceDC571> nameless1: mv -rf
[05:39] <nameless1> thanx
[05:40] <bddebian> I thought it would overwrite unless you told it not to?
[05:41] <rob^> !restricted-codecs
[05:41] <ubotu> rob^: I give up, what is it?
[05:41] <rob^> bugger
[05:41] <nameless1> nope not with linux
[05:41] <BeatYOu> hmm phpmyadmin i guess
[05:41] <rob^> !restricted-formats
[05:41] <ubotu> rob^: Wish i knew
[05:41] <IceDC571> lol
[05:41] <bimberi> !restricted
[05:41] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:41] <rob^> cheers
[05:41] <bimberi> np :)
[05:42] <bassinboy> what is ubuntu's firewall?
[05:42] <bassinboy> my torrents wont work
[05:42] <Tsunamii> there's none
[05:42] <bddebian> BeatYOu: Hang no
[05:42] <bassinboy> word
[05:42] <IceDC571> bassinboy: iptables
[05:42] <bddebian> BeatYOu: Err on..
[05:42] <BeatYOu> what haha
[05:42] <IceDC571> bassinboy: try downloading a GUI for it like firestarter
[05:42] <bassinboy> IceDC571: I want anything and everything disabled
[05:43] <BeatYOu> i can edit user tables easily with phpmyadmin and put my ip in methinks, at least thats what I did on a windows box
[05:43] <nickrud> bassinboy ubuntu's security policy is that no service provided by main listens outside the box, so no firewall is installed
[05:43] <nickrud> bassinboy but, that's not your issue, sorry :)
[05:43] <bassinboy> k
[05:44] <IIIEars> nickrud - does it drop unsolicited packets without a firewall installed?
[05:44] <Tsunamii> WOW! My whole system is only using 130 megs of ram!
[05:44] <Tsunamii> that's amazing :D
[05:44] <bddebian> BeatYOu: Sorry it's SQLyog
[05:45] <IceDC571> Tsunamii: whats your wm?
[05:45] <inc595> Tsunamii, only 88MB here
[05:45] <nickrud> IIIEars I think when I ran it by grc.com, it was reject
[05:45] <Tsunamii> wm ?
[05:45] <Tsunamii> inc595, cheater :P
[05:45] <IceDC571> windows manager
[05:45] <kUser> (window manager)
[05:45] <Davey> mines using 382MB but I'm running Zend Studio (Java based PHP IDE)
[05:45] <bddebian> tsume: Window Manager
[05:45] <IIIEars> Ubuntu is great! - without windows "life support" apps running in the background ubuntu runs a lot faster too.
[05:45] <Tsunamii> windows manager for what? D:!
[05:45] <BeatYOu> bddebian this still requires me to connect to the MySQL server (on ubuntu) right ?
[05:45] <bddebian> Damn tab completion
[05:45] <bddebian> BeatYOu: Of course :-)
[05:45] <IceDC571> Tsunamii: i'll take it as gnome
[05:45] <Tsunamii> oh umm, how do i find that out? :P
[05:45] <Tsunamii> yeah
[05:45] <Tsunamii> it's gnome
[05:45] <BeatYOu> But if i can't connect remotely this doens't do me any good ;]
[05:46] <BeatYOu> but will certinaly keep it in mind after i can connect
[05:46] <bddebian> BeatYOu: It will connect you
[05:46] <BeatYOu> hmm
[05:46] <inc595> gnome here too but i also got fluxbox
[05:46] <bddebian> It has like a login dialog
[05:46] <BeatYOu> ok will try
[05:46] <bddebian> Damn my feet stink
[05:46] <inc595> soap
[05:46] <bddebian> hehe
[05:46] <Tsunamii> what's the difference with other windows manager?
[05:47] <doug_> Gosh, I've used ' sudo '.  How do you use it?  (to run Updates, for example).
[05:47] <inc595> bddebian, /etc/init.d/soapd
[05:47] <inc595> restart
[05:47] <kUser> others offer other features, Tsunamii
[05:47] <bddebian> inc595: lol
[05:47] <Tsunamii> oh?
[05:47] <bddebian> doug_: ?
[05:47] <Tsunamii> well, tbh - Gnome really bites the dust :p
[05:47] <kUser> Tsunamii: some are slimmer (use less memory), some are more customisable, etc.
[05:47] <Quest-Master> doug_: sudo apt-get update
[05:48] <Tsunamii> interesting
[05:48] <IIIEars> nickrud - yep, stealthed except port 113 do i need it open? How do you close it if it isn't needed?
[05:48] <Tsunamii> any stats on what people prefer?
[05:48] <BeatYOu> bddebian: Host <IP_ADDRESS> is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server
[05:48] <inc595> gnome is kool.. i think it would be nice if ubuntu came with kde gnome and fluxbox installed
[05:48] <bddebian> xfce4 for example is smaller
[05:48] <calc> gnome and kde really don't use all that much ram, though they may appear to
[05:48] <Quest-Master> inc595 rofl.
[05:48] <Quest-Master> If that were true.
[05:48] <brlancer> alt+right-click is mapped to a context menu by default in gnome - how do I change it back to resize window?
[05:48] <Quest-Master> The install size and time would be massive.
[05:48] <kUser> inc595: wouldn't really be able to fit on 1 cd, then
[05:48] <IceDC571> inc595: dont use kool and gnome in the same sentence
[05:48] <IceDC571> inc595: only use it for kde
[05:48] <calc> eg kdm/kde logged in will take somewhere around 50-60MB ram
[05:48] <inc595> well like give you the option :)
[05:48] <nickrud> IIIEars I leave it open, it's the ident server, irc uses it to check you out, i believe
[05:49] <disasm> calc: when compared to fluxbox without all the underlying daemons, yeah they do. Try running the latest KDE on a 200 mhz p2
[05:49] <calc> though if you have a lot of ram free will report that a lot is used
[05:49] <bddebian> BeatYOu: hang on, I need a smoke something fierce :-)
[05:49] <Aerebus> hi all i just finished installing ubuntu for the very first time! i'm also a first time linux user and i have a slight problem, could someone tell me how to update my display driver? when i drag a window across my screen i am getting trails... like what usually happens on a generic display driver
[05:49] <inc595> gnome is pretty i lke it
[05:49] <inc595> lol
[05:49] <nickrud> IIIEars you sure you don't have a firewall running?
[05:49] <kUser> inc595: there's always the option. If you install ubuntu, you can install kubuntu-desktop and xfce4. If you install kubuntu, you can install ubuntu-desktop and xfce4.
[05:49] <BeatYOu> bddebian: chronic? or the evil tobacco
[05:49] <maxy_noob> Hi guys, what app can I stream music with--preferably one with libraries in it
[05:49] <James686> Is it possible to have my computer read 2 CD rom drives at system reboot instead of one?
[05:49] <maxy_noob> ?
[05:49] <calc> disasm: yea on older (> 5 years old) computers are likely to be better with a lightweight wm
[05:49] <James686> because right now the default one doesnt want to work...
[05:49] <IIIEars> nickrud - ah, okay. can't help but to learn something here. - grin
[05:49] <inc595> kUser, ahh to much work
[05:49] <IceDC571> ahh i love gnome
[05:50] <kUser> inc595: remember, it has to all fit on 1 cd
[05:50] <nickrud> IIIEars heh, I pick up two for one over all :)
[05:50] <James686> well?
[05:50] <calc> even the kernel is bloated now compared to back then
[05:50] <inc595> kUser, how about 1 dvd
[05:50] <disasm> calc: your right though, on a 2 ghz with 512 ram kde/gnome run pretty decent
[05:50] <maxy_noob> music player keeps cutting out.
[05:50] <kUser> inc595: not everyone has a dvd drive
[05:50] <inc595> not every want all three wm's
[05:50] <James686> hello?
[05:50] <calc> if i am reading the numbers right the kernel on my box appears to be using ~ 18MB ram itself
[05:51] <inc595> kUser, would be a nice iso to d/l
[05:51] <calc> disasm: even 1ghz with 128mb is plenty for them
[05:51] <kUser> inc595: some people make such iso(s) available
[05:51] <disasm> calc: maybe the default kernel, but the 2.6 kernel is designed to be able to be used in embedded situations as well, so a custom compiled kernel with all the essentials is still pretty dang good on older comps
[05:51] <calc> disasm: i used to use kde at work on one like that
[05:51] <calc> we just recently upgraded to 3.2ghz
[05:51] <nickrud> calc that does seem excessive
[05:51] <maxy_noob> I tried streamtuner and xmms but they kept freezing ubuntu
[05:52] <inc595> calc you're spoiled i got a nice 400MHz box here
[05:52] <BeatYOu> ergghh waht is command to untar something, tar -whatflags ?
[05:52] <kUser> maxy_noob: "cutting out"?
[05:52] <seth_k> tar -x
[05:52] <calc> my somewhat old laptop is 3.0 ;)
[05:52] <seth_k> for tar.gz, tar -xvzf
[05:52] <inc595> calc, haha
[05:52] <calc> got it about 18mo ago
[05:52] <IceDC571> the tcl language is weird
[05:53] <maxy_noob> ya, kUser, "unexpected end of stream!" error message.
[05:53] <inc595> calc this thing was made in 2001
[05:53] <IceDC571> i compiled amsn with tcl and it took like 15 seconds to make
[05:53] <calc> of course since cpu's have stopped increasing in speed i don't have any plans to replace it soon
[05:53] <maxy_noob> consistently, too, after every song
[05:53] <vinux> Man the backport links are going very slow!
[05:53] <calc> used to be cpus more than doubled in speed every 18mo :\
[05:53] <BeatYOu> tar -xvzf file.tar.bz /where/to/extract ?
[05:53] <BeatYOu> gz*
[05:53] <inc595> well they still are think 64bit
[05:53] <IceDC571> maxy_noob: yeah i have that problem until i used streamtuner + xmms
[05:53] <calc> inc595: i had a 1ghz box in mid 2000, i like to bleed ;)
[05:53] <seth_k> BeatYOu: looks fine
[05:53] <maxy_noob> IceDC571, how did you get them to work together?
[05:53] <calc> inc595: hmm what about 64bit?
[05:54] <Aerebus> anyone know how to update display drivers?
[05:54] <inc595> doubling power doesn't alway equal duoble the speed in mhz
[05:54] <IceDC571> maxy_noob: it works together by default
[05:54] <doug_> I've never used 'sudo'  (sucessfully).  How do I, for example, run the update program from the icon in the bottom panel?
[05:54] <calc> inc595: the amd64 chips are only 10-30% faster in 64bit mode
[05:54] <IceDC571> maxy_noob: all you need to do is run streamtuner and add your favorite stream station
[05:54] <calc> inc595: that is what my "old" laptop is athlon64 3000
[05:54] <PlutoPrime> Gnomebaker never asked me to label my cd!! gnomebaker: 1 , graveman: 1
[05:54] <maxy_noob> well something's wrong with my setup then because each time I settled on a station in streamtuner and it launched xmms, my system would freeze.
[05:54] <PlutoPrime> arrrrgh
[05:55] <maxy_noob> sorry, not my system by xmms. I couldn't close it either.
[05:55] <calc> 1.0ghz was available in mid 2000, the fastest single core is only 4.0 now
[05:55] <inc595> well when they start coming out with better 64 bit software it'll blow the old stuff out of the water
[05:55] <PlutoPrime> even worse!!! the cd burnt successfully but it's blank!!! what gives?!
[05:56] <bddebian> BeatYOu: Just coffin nails :-)   Did you do:  GRANT ALL PRIVILIGES ON *.* TO user@<ip address> ?
[05:56] <nickrud> doug_ you can test sudo by opening a terminal and typing sudo ls. it will ask for your password; enter the password you used when you installed.
[05:56] <calc> if they had continued to increase in speed at the same rate we would be at over 10ghz (or equiv speed) now
[05:56] <BeatYOu> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/428
[05:56] <virgule> 1 tgz
[05:57] <virgule> nm
[05:57] <calc> actually iirc intel originally had planned the p4 to reach ~ 10ghz by 2005
[05:57] <bddebian> BeatYOu: Don't we have phpmyadmin packages?
[05:57] <calc> and then the prescott came out :)
[05:57] <nickrud> BeatYOu what I normally do is cd to the directory I want the tar extracted to, then give the full path to the tar file.
[05:57] <BeatYOu> bddebian do we ? apt-get ?
[05:57] <BeatYOu> nickrud ill try that
[05:57] <nameless1> Does anyone here have maya, i just installed maya6.0 and there is no shortcut in the menu. i have found the directorys and tried to start it but can someone just tell me how. I realy need to get this working!
[05:58] <bddebian> BeatYOu: Aye, "sudo apt-get phpmyadmin"
[05:58] <kUser> nameless1: should be as simple as executing maya
[05:58] <inc595> calc i doubt programmers could take advantage of the instructionsets fast enough so to make more money off slow chip they throttle it out ;)
[05:58] <bddebian> BeatYOu: Did you GRANT access to that host?
[05:58] <nameless1> i tried typing maya in the console and tried to execute 3 files called maya in the dirs
[05:58] <nickrud> nameless1 as a general rule, you can find out the program name to call by doing 'dpkg -L | grep bin'
[05:58] <nameless1> i dont know what one is the "real" executable too
[05:58] <eternale1> question: ok i got the ssh server loaded up and started according to /etc/init.d but i can't login from any machine but this one
[05:58] <IIIEars> "Dual Core" - drool - grin
[05:58] <inc595> BeatYOu, use phpmyadmin.. so mush easier
[05:58] <doug_> O.K., I did that.  But I'm not sure what happened.
[05:59] <BeatYOu> bddebian everytime i do sudo apt-get install at the end it alwasy gives me "E: couldn't find package whateverpackage"
[05:59] <nickrud> doug_ you should now have a new directory in the directory you cd'd to.
[05:59] <bddebian> BeatYOu: Do you have universe and multiverse in your sources.list?
[05:59] <BeatYOu> Dont know ? is it on ubuntu guide ?
[06:00] <nickrud> nameless1 I should have said, dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin :)
[06:00] <nameless1> nickrud:    where in the synatx do i put "maya"   sry im a noob   dpkg -L | grep bin
[06:00] <bddebian> Don't use ubuntuguide :-)
[06:00] <nameless1> yeh lol
[06:00] <nameless1> you beat me 2 it :)
[06:00] <nickrud> nameless1 by one second :)
[06:00] <mega_bass> c.cl
[06:00] <bddebian> BeatYOu: Just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines for universe, etc
[06:00] <BeefTube> anyone running blender with hoary 64bit version?
[06:00] <BeatYOu> k
[06:01] <BeatYOu> keep getting same errors when i try to untar this
[06:02] <nameless1> nameless1@ubuntu:~$  dpkg -L maya | grep bin
[06:02] <nameless1> Package `maya' is not installed.
[06:02] <nameless1>    it IS installed..... it had a few rpms that needed extracint and that wroked 100%    im installin kde for incase kde has the shotcut in its menu but does anyone know how to get maya6.0 goin
[06:02] <steven_> <--- New Ubuntu user
[06:02] <Tsunamii> me too :D
[06:02] <Tsunamii> got it yesterday
[06:03] <kUser> nameless1: how did you install Maya 6?
[06:03] <bddebian> steven_: Congrats.  Welcome to the fold. :-)
[06:03] <steven_> LOL yeah man
[06:03] <steven_> am i part of the family?
[06:03] <nameless1> it had some rpm files and i followed the documentation in the thing and extracted it perfectly
[06:03] <BeatYOu> bddebian get all kinds of errors after uncommenting them and attemping phpmyadmin again
[06:03] <nameless1> to the "right dir"
[06:03] <maxy_noob> xmms freezes with streamtuner "tuning in"
[06:03] <kUser> nameless1: having never used said rpms, did you use alien?
[06:04] <nickrud> nameless1 rpm!!
[06:04] <Tsunamii> revs per minute :D
[06:04] <nameless1> yeah i tried to do rpm but it said to type alien, did that and it worked
[06:04] <QMario> Why can't I log in as root using SWAT?
[06:04] <kUser> nameless1: ok, so you installed it via .deb(s)
[06:04] <bddebian> BeatYOu: It can't resolve the names?
[06:04] <QMario> I already did 'sudo smbpasswd -a' in the terminal.
[06:05] <nameless1> /usr/aw/maya6.0 is where it extracted the main rpm
[06:05] <ggeecko_> anyone here uses a palm with ubuntu?
[06:05] <nickrud> QMario I think swat requires a true root password, not sudo
[06:05] <kUser> nameless1: you can try using tab-completion in bash. Open a Terminal (or a Konsole) and type: maya (then hit tab a couple times)
[06:05] <kUser> nameless1: in /usr/aw ?
[06:05] <QMario> Nickrud, what do you mean?
[06:05] <steven_> wow the synaptic manager looks awesome
[06:05] <kUser> nameless1: I bet /usr/aw isn't in your $PATH
[06:05] <Trace> Hello, Can anybody tell me what's difference between i810_audio and snd_intel8x0?
[06:06] <kUser> Trace: i810_audio is the oss/free driver. The other is the alsa driver.
[06:06] <nameless1> rpm -i Maya6_0-6.0-#.i686.rpm AWCommon-6.0-1.i686.rpm AWCommon-server-6.0-1.i686.rpm      this is the command in the documentation that i edited with the right file version and used alien not rpm
[06:06] <kUser> Trace: you'll want to use the latter (the alsa)
[06:06] <steven_> wait
[06:06] <steven_> let me get this straight
[06:06] <nameless1> i opened the rpm and its dir structure is /usr/aw and i went to that dir on the harddrive and it has the stuff
[06:06] <steven_> If i want to install something
[06:06] <steven_> all i need to do
[06:06] <steven_> is go to the synaptic manager?
[06:06] <BeatYOu> bddebian: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/429
[06:06] <QMario> Nickrud are you still there?
[06:06] <bddebian> steven_: Aye, or use apt-get
[06:06] <kUser> nameless1: then you'll need to execute Maya 6 using its full path
[06:06] <adwait> aloha ppl
[06:07] <Trace> thx, kuser!!
[06:07] <nameless1> na i meant that was part of the dir
[06:07] <steven_> wow
[06:07] <steven_> pretty nifty
[06:07] <kUser> nameless1: I presume there're executables in /usr/aw/... ?
[06:07] <nickrud> QMario yeah, I was looking to see if I could back that up :)
[06:07] <bddebian> wb adwait
[06:07] <bddebian> BeatYOu: Did you do an "sudo apt-get update" ?
[06:07] <adwait> thx bd
[06:07] <BeatYOu> tried
[06:07] <steven_> ok what should i use if i dont wanna use gnome
[06:07] <bddebian> steven_: kubuntu
[06:07] <nameless1> /usr/aw/maya6.0/ it goes to here and then its filled with like 20 folders and no other files and some folders have different files called maya
[06:07] <BeatYOu> update is working now
[06:07] <BeatYOu> good
[06:08] <bddebian> sweet
[06:08] <kUser> steven_: there are a variety of window managers and/or desktop environments you can use
[06:08] <Trace> but in /lib/modules/**/modules.alias, both i810_auido and snd_intel8x0 maps the same, shall i just delete i810_audio's alisa?
[06:08] <QMario> Oh, okay.
[06:08] <kUser> Trace: don't touch any of that
[06:08] <IIIEars> steven - you can use synaptic to install the kubuntu-desktop (KDE)
[06:08] <BeatYOu> bddebian: apt-get fully functional
[06:08] <BeatYOu> heh
[06:08] <TokenBad> anyone tried doom 3 for linux on ubuntu?
[06:08] <nickrud> QMario yeah, you need a true root password, not sudo. swat is a web interface, and sudo won't work.
[06:08] <Davey> I just created a script to run 3ddesk, wait 20 seconds (whilst I choose a desktop) and then kill the daemon, so its not sitting there taking up way too many resources
[06:08] <QMario> What is a true root password?
[06:08] <kUser> nameless1: is there a /usr/aw/maya6.0/bin ?
[06:08] <nickrud> QMario sudo passwd root <password>
[06:09] <bddebian> BeatYOu: Sweet, now can you apt-get phpmyadmin?
[06:09] <IIIEars> steven xfce4 is much less resource hungry than even gnome
[06:09] <vinux> TokenBad, there is a version released for linux?
[06:09] <steven_> OMFG this is awesome
[06:09] <QMario> How do I do that?
[06:09] <nickrud> !rootsudo
[06:09] <ubotu> I guess rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[06:09] <maxy> ok then, how about this: can I get streamtuner to work with an app other than xmms?
[06:09] <BeatYOu> bddebian: yes, hopefully it will know to put it in www where i can use it
[06:09] <TokenBad> so I have seen..but not real sure yet how good it is or anything else
[06:09] <steven_> what do you guys prefer
[06:09] <nickrud> QMario sudo passwd root   will let you create a root pasword
[06:09] <BeatYOu> looks like its putting it in /etc/ :[
[06:09] <steven_> im downloading kde
[06:09] <Trace> Why?
[06:09] <steven_> Whats the best desktop enviorment
[06:09] <crouton> howdy
[06:09] <nameless1> KUser: sry my bad i got it worked its just got a few simple errors
[06:10] <kUser> steven_: kubuntu-desktop, you mean?
[06:10] <adwait> steven_: i like gnome
[06:10] <QMario> Can I use that for swat?
[06:10] <steven_> i dont like gnome
[06:10] <Trace> Anctually, i used hwsetup to autoconfig my hardware.
[06:10] <bddebian> steven_: xpde? ;-P
[06:10] <steven_> i need something more customizable
[06:10] <steven_> xpde?
[06:10] <steven_> hmm
[06:10] <adwait> QMario: run tht command and then use tht password for swat
[06:10] <bddebian> I'm kidding
[06:10] <steven_> never heard
[06:10] <nickrud> QMario you run that command, then, when swat asks for the password, use the one you just created
[06:10] <BeatYOu> ahh beatiful
[06:10] <Trace> but, kuduz tell me my sound card driver is use i810_audio
[06:10] <BeatYOu> phpmyadmin installed
[06:10] <adwait> steven_: if u like a XP like interface xpde
[06:10] <maxy> please?
[06:10] <QMario> When I use sudo smbpasswd -a to create a root user, and logon, it doesn't work.
[06:10] <QMario> Then it says access denied.
[06:10] <kUser> Trace: cat /proc/asound/modules
[06:10] <adwait> steven_:else....lots available KDE, fluxbox, xfce
[06:10] <steven_> its cool
[06:11] <kUser> Trace: type that in a Terminal or a Konsole
[06:11] <adwait> QMario: don't create a root user.just sudo passwd
[06:11] <nickrud> QMario I haven't used samba for a long time, so I can't help there. The web system administration interfaces require a root password.
[06:12] <QMario> Thank you. Let me see if it works. :)
[06:13] <airmikeyy> yo
[06:13] <Trace> thx, i think i know. thx!! kUser
[06:13] <adwait> hmm....so hey can somebody point me to some basic reading for compiling my own kernel?
[06:14] <kUser> adwait: it's probably easiest if you start with kernel-package
[06:14] <BeatYOu> anyone know where the real httpd.conf is? the one in /etc/apache2 seems weird.... only about 10 lines
[06:14] <QMario> Thank God. It works. :-D
[06:14] <bddebian> adwait: En googlis :-)
[06:14] <steven_> fluxbox is kinda ugly
[06:14] <QMario> Thank you everyone.
[06:14] <adwait> kUser: if thts an app........i dont hv it, i guess apt-get
[06:14] <kUser> steven_: you can install additional themes.
[06:15] <steven_> ohh
[06:15] <steven_> can i download fluxbox and xfce on synaptic
[06:15] <bddebian> Should be able to
[06:15] <kUser> steven_: sure. didn't you just install fluxbox?
[06:16] <steven_> nah i was looking at it on the site
[06:16] <steven_> im dwonloading kbuntu
[06:16] <steven_> off synaptic
[06:16] <kUser> steven_: enable the universe repo and install 'fluxbox' for fluxbox and 'xfce4' for Xfce
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> and a dozen others :P
[06:16] <_0kills> steven_, sudo apt-get install fluxbox (or kde, xfce4, and theres one more for windows manager, but i cant remember it)
[06:17] <adwait> hey heres another problem.......apt-get sometimes cant resolve hostnames.....it looks for ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:17] <nickrud> steven_ you want to see ugly, try twm :)
[06:17] <steven_> ;pp;
[06:17] <steven_> lol
[06:17] <adwait> i had to replace the urls with ip addresses in sources.list to gt it to work..why?
[06:17] <steven_> what is
[06:17] <steven_> sudo
[06:17] <bddebian> xfce4 is nice
[06:17] <BeatYOu> uhh, anyone know how to change default root/nopassword account for MySQL
[06:17] <adwait> steven_: it is a command which allows u to work as root
[06:17] <BeatYOu> at least add a password ?
[06:17] <bddebian> adwait: Your resolv.conf is jacked up?
[06:17] <scanwinder> is there an easy to use config utility for setting up dual monitors that will work in ubuntu?
[06:17] <_0kills> steven_, pretty new to linux/ubuntu?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> try 'matchbox' window manager :P lol
[06:18] <steven_> no su is root in redhat
[06:18] <adwait> bddebian: well.....firefox seems to resolve the URLS fine...
[06:18] <steven_> sudo is root in ubuntu i see
[06:18] <tiglionabbit> !sudo
[06:18] <_0kills> yea
[06:18] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[06:18] <adwait> the same issue with XChat, i had to replace irc.freenode.net with an ip address
[06:18] <kUser> BeatYOu: aren't you using mysqladmin?
[06:18] <bddebian> BeatYOu: Are you trying to mysql --user=root mysql ?
[06:18] <adwait> steven_:no..urnt getting it.....well try tht link
[06:18] <steven_> im not getting it
[06:18] <steven_> lol
[06:18] <nickrud> steven_ sudo is something that can give specific rights to a user, without them needing to know the root password
[06:19] <BeatYOu> yes phpmyadmin, but the passwords are encyrpted in there
[06:19] <bddebian> adwait: That makes no sense
[06:19] <steven_> ohhh
[06:19] <steven_> ok
[06:19] <QMario> Bye, everyone. :)
[06:19] <BeatYOu> bddebian: no, just tyring to change the default for MySQL login
[06:19] <bddebian> adwait: What is in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[06:19] <_0kills> later QMario
[06:19] <Grooby> hey all
[06:19] <Grooby> i am trying to run mii-tool on my shuttle xpc (nforce2 chipset)
[06:19] <Grooby> and getting this funky message
[06:20] <Grooby> SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported
[06:20] <Grooby> no MII interfaces found
[06:20] <Barney> i just installed ubuntu for the first time, and my monitor's resolution is terrible: 512x384. it's the only option in the preferences pane, though, so how can i make it better? anyone?
[06:20] <Grooby> i can go on internet w/ out any problem
[06:20] <kUser> Grooby: using forcedeth?
[06:20] <Grooby> kuser: yes
[06:20] <kUser> Grooby: that's because that chipset has no mii
[06:20] <adwait> bddebian:resolv.conf points to my ADSL router.....which is configured to get the DNS server
[06:20] <nickrud> !resolution
[06:20] <ubotu> resolution is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:20] <Grooby> hmmmm
[06:21] <Grooby> is there anyway I can see if it's working at 100mb or 10mb?
[06:21] <BeatYOu> NM didn't see the change password in phpmyadmin
[06:21] <BeatYOu> heh
[06:21] <nickrud> Barney that resolution thing should be your first step
[06:21] <Barney> nickrud: type that in terminal?
[06:21] <bddebian> adwait: I don't think that is right.  Is firefox using your adsl router as a proxy?
[06:21] <adwait> umm....ok i apt-get (got?) the kernel-package.......now wht?
[06:21] <nickrud> Barney no, go to  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto , it has instructions
[06:21] <adwait> bddebian: nope..it is working w/o proxies
[06:22] <adwait> bddebian: u think i should directly add the DNS server to the resolv.conf and try?
[06:22] <nickrud> Barney if that doesn't work, check in here again.
[06:22] <kUser> Grooby: wait, you were using sudo, correct?
[06:22] <kUser> adwait: now read the man page for make-kpkg
[06:22] <Grooby> sudo or root term
[06:22] <Grooby> same thing
[06:22] <kUser> Grooby: right, that's a hardware limitation
[06:22] <bddebian> adwait: Yes, I would try that
[06:23] <Grooby> welp..that just blow a big fat left nutty
[06:24] <maxy> figured out the xmms freeze.
[06:25] <maxy> options > output > choose "esound"
[06:25] <adwait> brb
[06:27] <adwait> hm......bddebian tht appears to have fixed the resolution problem thx
[06:28] <adwait> but the name resolution is still pretty slow.......if i use an ip i get connected much much faster
[06:28] <maxy> Ok, how do I change this awful unintelligible xmms skin?
[06:28] <BeatYOu> using phpmyadmin how would i allow remote connections?
[06:28] <BeatYOu> dont understand
[06:29] <BeatYOu> still get the error saying my machine isn't allowed to connect
[06:29] <nickrud> lol
[06:29] <HrdwrBoB> maxy: look at the options
[06:29] <HrdwrBoB> I bet you can figure it out
[06:29] <maxy> so this is the only skin that comes with it?
[06:29] <maxy> yeesh
[06:30] <bddebian> adwait: :-)
[06:30] <kUser> maxy: download some
[06:30] <bddebian> BeatYOu: You have to do: GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO <user>@<host or ip>
[06:31] <HrdwrBoB> maxy: xmms-skins package
[06:31] <duken> hi
[06:31] <cafuego> bddebian: Does phpmyadmin run on the same box as mysql?
[06:31] <bddebian> Hello duken
[06:32] <duken> i have problem with print from openoffice
[06:32] <bddebian> cafuego: It can
[06:32] <nickrud> I found a decent guide to make-kpkg once, I can't seem to find it anymore
[06:32] <duken> won't print
[06:32] <cafuego> Eh
[06:32] <duken> :(
[06:32] <BeatYOu> bddebian, thanks, i tired just * but had to actually ad my IP
[06:32] <cafuego> BeatYOu: Does phpmyadmin run on the same box as mysql?
[06:32] <adwait> nickrud: :(........thx for looking though :)
[06:32] <BeatYOu> cafuego no
[06:32] <BeatYOu> its fixed now
[06:33] <BeatYOu> haha, wait, cafuego misunderstood your question
[06:33] <BeatYOu> yes it does
[06:33] <cafuego> BeatYOu: Ok, then you'll ineed need to specify the IP and make sure mysql is listening on the network
[06:33] <maxy> HrdwrBoB, that's an idea, thanks!
[06:33] <cafuego> BeatYOu: Ah ok, then you do NOT grant any extra rights.
[06:33] <duken> i can't print from openoffice, but from others like abiword, i can
[06:33] <adwait> cafuego: mysql doesnt listen to the network.........does it?
[06:33] <cafuego> BeatYOu: Did you set up the mysql root user?
[06:33] <cafuego> adwait: Not by default, no.
[06:33] <nickrud> adwait http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html, but it's not the one I was looking for.
[06:33] <duken> how to fix it ?
[06:33] <BeatYOu> yea with password, also made a new one for me to access from my machine/ip only
[06:33] <cafuego> adwait: If the apache box running phpmyadmin was a different machine it would need to, though.
[06:34] <nickrud> my, that's old
[06:34] <BeatYOu> cafuego - do i need to keep ahold of the mysql account debian-sys-maint ?
[06:35] <maxy> geez, these designers think we have paranormal vision!
[06:35] <BeatYOu> or can it be deleted
[06:35] <adwait> cafuego: hm k
[06:35] <cafuego> BeatYOu: Cool. Just edit /eyc/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php and set the root password for $cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['controlpass']
[06:35] <scanwinder> does anyone know of any good config utilities that will setup dual display?
[06:35] <cafuego> BeatYOu: No, do not delete the debian-sys-maint user.
[06:35] <adwait> nickrud: hmm......thx....ill try tht tonight
[06:36] <kUser> scanwinder: for nvidia cards?
[06:36] <nickrud> adwait I think the docs I'm looking for are in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package, but, since I'm on dialup right now, I can't check there.
[06:37] <hyapadi> I already open samba port in firestarter, but my windows machine won't access my ubuntu server unless i stop the firewall. is there any other port that i should open? Thx
[06:37] <cafuego> BeatYOu: By default, you should be able to log in at http://hostname/phpmyadmin/ using your sql user/pass combo.
[06:37] <scanwinder> kUser, for ATI
[06:37] <kUser> scanwinder: their documentation should help
[06:37] <BeatYOu> cafuego i can, but I like to manage with the GUI MySQL Administrator tool put out by mysql
[06:37] <BeatYOu> I setup phpmyadmin for users that I host
[06:37] <BeatYOu> friends mainly
[06:37] <BeatYOu> for their DBs
[06:38] <cafuego> BeatYOu: *nod*
[06:38] <adwait> nickrud: yeah..there are readme files here.thx
[06:38] <BeatYOu> i've been hosting on a windows machine, but installed unbuntu today to get my feet in linux
[06:38] <BeatYOu> and am enjoying t
[06:38] <cafuego> should give you far better performance too
[06:38] <BeatYOu> most definatly
[06:38] <BeatYOu> ive noticed it already