[00:01] <pocata> hi help me
[00:01] <pocata> my problem is that when you minimize a program appears on the bottom bar i`am ubuntu
[00:13] <glosoli> anyone got lm-sensors properly working with Precise ?
[00:20] <psusi> glosoli, questions like "does anyone..." are rather unhelpful... try to ask a specific question about the problem you are having
[00:21] <glosoli> psusi: well the question was made quite good. I was asking if anyone got it working
[00:22] <glosoli> coz for me it doesn't show CPU
[00:22] <glosoli> just acpi
[00:38] <andrewaclt> Are crash reports stored somewhere?
[00:40] <trism> andrewaclt: /var/crash/
[00:43] <stiltzkin> Hi folks, hoping someone can help me with installing fglrx on precise or at least give me an idea as to why I'm getting compile-time errors with ATI's packages.  I am following the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI but changed "oneiric" to "precise" at the build step. The installer retrieved all dependencies for my system but fails to build.
[00:43] <andrewaclt> trism, thanks
[00:44] <pocata> hi help me i`am problem my problem is that when you minimize a program appears on the bottom bar i`am ubuntu
[01:06] <pamposzek> Hey, can you help me with making bootloader for usb, but for 11.10? I get wrong checksums error.
[01:14] <micahg> pamposzek: see #ubuntu for help with 11.10
[01:14] <pamposzek> I'm actually on 12.04 right now.
[01:15] <pamposzek> And I can't make boot to USB using 11.10 iso file.
[01:17] <stiltzkin> pamposzek, you're trying to make a bootable 11.10 USB stick?
[01:17] <pamposzek> Yes.
[01:18] <stiltzkin> Install unetbootin and write the ISO to your thumb drive that way.
[01:18] <stiltzkin> "sudo apt-get install unetbootin"
[01:19] <pamposzek> It will work even if I'm on live cd?
[01:19] <stiltzkin> Yes. If you've already downloaded the ISO then just choose the ISO option and point it to the file. It will take care of the rest for you.
[01:19] <pamposzek> Thanks, I hope it will work. :)
[01:20] <stiltzkin> Also make sure your USB is formatted and empty first, and that it is mounted (unplug and replug it)
[01:20] <stiltzkin> If you haven't already downloaded the ISO it has an option to download it for you.
[01:44] <ozpy> hi! how to autohide the left app bar on ubuntu 12.04?
[01:44] <andrewaclt> System Settings->Appearance->Behavior
[01:46] <ozpy> Alright! I got it
[02:07] <arielsanflo> saludos
[02:07] <arielsanflo> alguien sabe como colocar el repositorio de terceros en ubntu 12.04
[02:08] <bazhang> arielsanflo, english here please
[02:09] <arielsanflo> anyone knows how to put the third-party repository ubntu 12.04
[02:34] <quantumlemur> hey, I just updated to 12.04 recently, and since the update, the power statistics window is sometimes blank when I open it.  the first few times, it's normal, but at some point it stops working, and won't display anything until I restart and try again
[02:35] <quantumlemur> internet searches don't turn up anything.  any ideas?
[04:09] <xrfang> hi, I wonder if Subversion 1.7 will be included in Precisee repo or not...?
[04:28] <micahg> xrfang: probably not at this point
[04:29] <xrfang> thanks micahg, then I will use WANdisco ppa.
[04:34] <KI7MT> .
[05:53] <scientes> does the installer support btrfs
[05:53] <scientes> debian-installer ("alternate")
[06:08] <scientes> the installer allows btrfs, but doesn't support using compress=zlib
[06:34] <AnAnt> Hello, I tried to upgrade from Lucid 10.04.4 to Precise beta, but it failed, saying that it cannot compute upgrade path
[07:42] <red_> how change a keyboard lang in ubuntu 12.04
[07:43] <crizzy> red_: system settings > keyboard layout
[07:43] <crizzy> top-right corner > system settings..
[07:46] <scientes> anant ...gone
[07:48] <red_> crazzy : thanks
[07:52] <mongo> with the new resolvconf am I correct in thinking there is no way to set the fqdn?
[08:13] <Ian_> Good morning everyone
[08:41] <karlhunt> I have a power charging issue that has existed in ever distro of linux for about a year anyone help me track it down
[08:49] <coz_> anyone having issues with printers not being recognized?  I have a kodak termal printer that never has had issues ,, however the printer setting shows no printers connectd
[08:56] <hifi> just out of curiosity, anyone from the debian/ubuntu games team here?
[09:19] <tokarbol> is the lightdm logon screen supposed to be ok to move with the top bar?
[09:29] <psalden> hi, I notice precise won't properly resume after suspend while using the radeon driver. Is this something known?
[09:33] <Aruzsi> Hi there,
[09:34] <Aruzsi> Please help me! Who or what sets the recordfail GRUB environment variable?
[09:39] <Ch_Iossif> Hi to all! RAID problem on 12.04b1 - more: paste.ubuntu.com/869743 - any ideas?
[09:48] <glosoli> I have critical problem. There is a problem. When I am on battery and set my screen brightness to the lowest, I open chrome use it for few settongs, and screen brightness is automatically set max ://////
[09:50] <psypher246> hi all, PLEASE can someone help urgently. I tried to install the nvidia propretary driver and due to several issues I uninstalled it. no I cannot get the nouveau driver to work at alkl and i'm stuck on a 1024*768 res, does not detect larger res at all, lsmod does not show nouveau module loaed, help!
[09:50] <psypher246> i tried uninstalling and reinstalling nouveau, but still nothing
[09:50] <Aruzsi_> glosoli: Hi, I think I found my GRUB problem. System doesn't set recordfail to 0.
[09:52] <Aruzsi_> btrfs kernel panic remains in the today linux image. :-(
[09:52] <glosoli> hate these problems
[09:53] <glosoli> I found that's DIM Problem.
[09:54] <glosoli> It trys to DIM screen a bit when I don't do anything for some seconds, and then I move mouse screen brightness is FULL :/
[10:08] <psypher246> hi all, does anyone here know how to kill lightdm correctly so that I may run sudo Xorg -configure to fix a major driver issues?
[10:09] <rye> psypher246, service lightdm stop ?
[10:09] <zniavre> sudo service lightdm stop
[10:09] <psypher246> does not work
[10:09] <zniavre> ooops too late sorry
[10:09] <psypher246> kicks me back inot the desktop
[10:10] <rye> psypher246, if you have only one display/monitor, remove xorg.conf completely - nouveau driver will be picked via autodetection
[10:10] <psypher246> how else can i generate a clean xorg config file so that I can use nouveau?
[10:10] <psypher246> rye, that its not working
[10:10] <rye> psypher246, is kernel nouveau module loaded?
[10:11] <psypher246> rye: if i delete the xorg I cannot set resoultuion or detect my 2ndf screen and no it does not load the module
[10:11] <rye> psypher246, w/o kernel nouveau module you won't be able even if you have xorg configured - the logs should now say you are using VESA mode only
[10:11] <rye> xorg logs
[10:12] <psypher246> rye: thats what i fugred, so how do i force nouveau?
[10:12] <rye> psypher246, so first you need to make sure that the kernel module is loaded. does modprobe nouveau work?
[10:12] <psypher246> it all worked fine 20 mins ago before installing the crappy propretary drivers
[10:12] <psypher246> nope
[10:12] <psypher246> modprobe nouveau
[10:12] <rye> psypher246, how did you uninstall them?  Have you restarted the machine after driver removal?
[10:14] <psypher246> yes
[10:14] <psypher246> several times now
[10:15] <rye> psypher246, ok, so your nvidia.ko is still present - find  /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name 'nvidia.ko'
[10:15] <psypher246> look i had to reinstall nvidia to get a working desktop, so must i uninstall again, reboot and then try rmmod?
[10:15] <rye> umm
[10:15] <psypher246> sorry i forgot I had to install again
[10:15] <rye> :)
[10:15] <psypher246> else i couldn't even open empathy cos gloabla menus don't display cos the res si so low
[10:17] <rye> psypher246, so, when you remove the driver again, drop xorg.conf before reboot, then perform the reboot, autodetection will pick up nouveau driver. If not - verify that kernel module is present, that nvidia module is no longer available, and check whether there are WW (warnings) EE (errors) in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:17]  * rye is happy he switched to intel-based machine
[10:18] <psypher246> rye: thanks will try that, just gotta put out a fire quick, since i just got my pc running again :/
[10:18] <psypher246> rye, is intel drivers runing well?
[10:19] <rye> psypher246, except of menus sometimes not drawing properly in compiz - yes; currently fglrx is broken for Xv for ATi cards in precise (ABI change) and nvidia drivers on my 8400 were really slow (and finally my card burned itself in the laptop)
[10:19] <rye> so intel is so far my best one :)
[10:19] <psypher246> rye: i have that menu drawing issue as well
[10:20] <rye> psypher246, bug #934072 ?
[10:20] <psypher246> yup
[10:20] <rye> ah
[10:21] <rye> that's gtk/compiz bug
[10:22] <psypher246> although bug says fix released?
[10:24] <glosoli> Anyone here got problems with Screen Dim messing up on battery ? It dims screen but when I move moves it doesn't remember previous brightness state and sets it to full
[10:32] <c3sso> hello
[10:33] <c3sso> somebody there who knows about unity greeter?
[10:36] <ronsonol> Encountering a display issue with gcalctool.   Using xubuntu AMD64.  Wondered if experienced elsewhere.
[10:40] <ronsonol> Depends on the theme, but most, the display area or buttons are dark gray/black text on a black background.
[10:48] <c3sso> After the switch to dconf, all my attempts to change the greeters values have failed
[10:54] <AnAnt> Hello, I tried to upgrade from Lucid 10.04.4 to Precise beta, but it failed, saying that it cannot compute upgrade path
[11:02] <psypher246> AnAnt: you can't upgrade directly like that, you have to go Natty, then oneiric, then precise
[11:03] <psypher246> AnAnt: just reinstall, it's easier and less downloading
[11:03] <AnAnt> wierd, I thought that LTS to LTS+1 upgrades SHOULD work !
[11:03] <psypher246> oh
[11:03] <psypher246> damn i forgot about that
[11:03] <tokarbol> well, I thought that as well
[11:04] <psypher246> sorry!
[11:04] <AnAnt> is there anyone who tried it ?
[11:04] <crizzy> AnAnt: you need to wait for final release
[11:04] <psypher246> ok that explains it
[11:04] <crizzy> it will work ^^ but not in beta
[11:05] <AnAnt> doesn't really explain it, because this is something that needs be tested before final release
[11:05] <psypher246> good point
[11:16] <c3sso> uhm is somebody here who is familiar with unity greeter?
[11:18] <psypher246> c3sso: not veryb familiar, but maybe I can help
[11:23] <c3sso> well,
[11:23] <c3sso>  After the switch to dconf, all my attempts to change the greeters values have failed
[11:24] <psypher246> c3sso: :/ ok thats a bit over my head sorry
[11:27] <ronsonol> psypher246, gcalctool display okay for you?
[11:27] <psypher246> ronsonol: yeah looks ok
[11:28] <c3sso>  tried it with sudo dconf editor, and as a normal user, but changing the values would not do anything
[11:28] <ronsonol> I'm getting black numbers on a black screen.
[11:28] <psypher246> no mine is fine, and was fine on nouveau and nvidia driver, what card u got?
[11:29] <ronsonol> Some GTK Warnings in terminal I don't know if are usual.
[11:29] <ronsonol> ATI, using the non proprietary driver.
[11:29] <psypher246> ronsonol: I got those too, but fort apps as well
[11:29] <psypher246> for most*
[11:30] <ronsonol> I was just trying to get an idea of the bug epidemology.  I'm on xubuntu AMD64.    Others, the display area is good, the buttons are black with black numbers.
[11:35] <ronsonol> Thankfully, I'm old skool enough remember how to use bc. :P
[11:35] <psypher246> i hacve issues in empathy when i mouse over people's names, their details pops up, all the text is white on a white background
[11:40] <AnAnt> c3sso: gsettings
[11:40] <AnAnt> c3sso: unity-greeting uses gsettings now
[11:44] <AnAnt> c3sso: I have installed an override in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/ with the following contents: http://paste.ubuntu.com/871309/ , and it worked
[11:45] <AnAnt> c3sso: note that you will need to run sudo /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/ after installing the override
[12:09] <snadge> im using ubuntu precise to distill ethanol
[12:10] <snadge> i wonder if thats a first ;)
[12:16] <FernandoMiguel> snadge: ahahahahahah
[12:16] <FernandoMiguel> snadge: http://qdb.us/307845
[12:42] <paradiesstaub> hi, I'm currently testing precise. my PC just crashed compleatly and I don't know how to report the crash - could be the kernel or compiz.
[12:45] <c3sso> AnAnt: thanks. I have now switched to gtk-greeter which is simple and does what I want. I eventually will try out the gsettings thingie though
[13:30] <Lukas1321> Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't run PAE kernel
[13:34] <Lukas1321> Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't run PAE kernel
[13:34] <Lukas1321> Ubuntu 12.04 with ATI graphics card doesn't run PAE kernel
[13:37] <ironhalik> Lukas1321: I know its not the proper answer, but you could consider running x64 version of Ubuntu
[13:38] <glosoli> What's the point of using PAE?
[13:38] <glosoli> if processor supports 64
[13:38] <glosoli>  ?
[13:38] <Lukas1321> I'm not too sure about this: I have a Quad-core AMD, Asus motherboard and an ATI integrated graphics card.
[13:39] <Pici> Lukas1321: Yes, it does. It does not support processors that do not support PAE though.
[13:40] <ironhalik> Lukas1321: with quad-core processor, you can run x64 version
[13:40] <ironhalik> it will probably be the recommended version for 12.04 eitherway
[13:43] <Ian_> some atom processors and old pentiums and the oldest gen of dual core were 32bit
[13:43] <Ian_> the rest is 64bit I think
[13:43] <Ian_> amd being there before intel too
[13:44] <ironhalik> Ive got a lappy with the last dual core that was 32 bit :)
[13:44] <ironhalik> ULV
[13:44] <glosoli> ironhalik: may it be the problem for him that PAE not working because he uses Wubi Installer ?
[13:45] <yt372> I'm trying out 12.04 - can someone tell me how I change the theme?
[13:45] <glosoli> yt372: Get MyUnity app :)
[13:45] <glosoli> yt372: or system settings -> appearance
[13:45] <yt372> Is there a way to add more themes?  :O
[13:46] <ironhalik> ;>
[13:46] <ironhalik> glosoli: No idea, but since I think wubi is stupid, yeah, why not
[13:46] <glosoli> yt372: No it isn't for now, custom themes looks ugly because some things changed in metacity and themes need to be updated
[13:46] <yt372> Well, in my opinion anyway ;)
[13:46] <ironhalik> yup, true
[13:46] <ironhalik> custom themes are broken for now, for ma at least
[13:46] <yt372> Ah, I thought it might be possible to use the default Gnome 3 theme which looks nicer
[13:46] <glosoli> yt372: I tryed Adwaita Cupertino, Zukini ,ZukiTwo and some of other, they look more ugly now, because of the problems i mentioned above
[13:47] <glosoli> yt372: it is
[13:47] <glosoli> you can use adwaita for sure
[13:47] <yt372> Ok, that's good to know, thanks
[13:47] <ironhalik> Btw, guys, anyone know of a oldish but fully functional under linux wifi-n card? For miniPCIe
[13:48] <ironhalik> I had some broadcom chip that sucked and had no power management enabled in the kernel
[13:48] <ironhalik> bought for five bucks intel 4965, that was, since intel supports OSS drivers, supposed to be working perfect
[13:48] <ironhalik> but then, it turned out, it had power management disabled too
[13:49] <yt372> ironhalik: I suggest seeing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported or the FSF: https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html
[13:49] <ironhalik> hmm, nice, thx
[13:54] <ironhalik> the power management feature, or lack of thereof, is costing me about half an hour of battery life
[13:57] <glosoli> ironhalik: same here :) what a pity
[13:58] <pip__> where can I find a 12.04 non-pae mini iso, if indeed such a thing exists please?
[14:14] <cog> I have issue:  the default package manager stalled & I want synaptic :C
[14:14] <mvo> cog: stalled in what way?
[14:15] <cog> no downloading
[14:18] <yt372> Just use command line to install synaptic, then use that. The official Ubuntu package manager sucks, it's buggy
[14:21] <cog> y thank u :> how do i enable multiverse packages?
[14:23] <cog> n/m lol
[14:24] <cog> I can never thank you enough for your teaching.  Thank you & thank reality for such positive energy.  May you receive more positive energy than you gave.
[14:24] <yt372> cog: Are you on meth?
[14:25] <cog> No.
[14:25] <cog> Should I get on it? :D
[14:25]  * cog thinks about never having to brush his teeth again & smiles :B
[14:32] <yt372> Does Canonical employ any kernel developers? I ask because I reported a bug, and they just told me to pass it on to the kernel bug tracker instead...
[14:37] <brendand> yt372 - yes, but bugs should always be reported to the upstream kernel tracker
[14:38] <brendand> yt372 - do you have a bug number?
[14:45] <ironhalik> Huh, I went with a9k based atheros for my WiFi
[14:45] <ironhalik> I wonder what hidden defects Ill find now :)
[14:46] <yt372> brendand: I was just wondering if this was possible, as I've heard complaints from Fedora about Ubuntu users being told to report bugs there too. The impression is that Canonical don't contribute upstream very much
[15:07] <drumusician> does anyone have succes getting wunderlist to work in 12.04?
[15:16] <AnAnt> Hello, I tried to upgrade from Lucid 10.04.4 to Precise beta, but it failed, saying that it cannot compute upgrade path. I was told that it wouldn't work indeed until precise is released as stable. Isn't there a way around this ? Otherwise, how will the case of upgrading Lucid to Precise will be tested before release ?
[15:17] <glosoli> drumusician: I did
[15:19] <glosoli> drumusician: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/how-to-install-wunderlist-in-ubuntu.html
[15:20] <glosoli> drumusician: in fact everything works perfectly except global menu not, menus are displayed inside the program
[15:45] <glosoli> Anyone there has knowlede with ls ? I want it to show folder tree with files
[15:46] <zlynx1> ls -las
[15:48] <valdur55> glosoli, and man is your friend.  Shoot man ls   :)
[15:49] <Ian_> ls -R
[15:50] <glosoli> valdur55: nah that was not what i Needed found tree package which gives me exactly what I need
[15:51] <ritz> Is it possible to locally build a package for oneiric from bzr branch on precise, using buildeb plugin ?
[15:57] <Daekdroom> Why does Ubuntu ship GIMP 2.6.x instead of 2.7.x?
[15:58] <glosoli> 2.7.x is in development
[15:58] <glosoli> :)
[15:58] <glosoli> it isn't said to be stable
[15:58] <glosoli> 2.7.x is what will become GIMP 2.8
[16:06] <NOSaturn> questions: in 12.04 beta1, i do not have the quick actions on the home icon, privacy in settings, or the video lens... i ran the upgrade over my previous 11x and had a video lens add on and zietgiest editor add on. How can i restore these 3 feature using 12.04's implementation?
[16:08] <Daekdroom> NOSaturn, I think what you refer to as 'quick actions' are the big 8 icons?
[16:09] <NOSaturn> Daekdroom, no... when i r click on something in the launcher.. it works on the unity icon, and mounted drives, but shouldn't there be one for the home folder icon that launches nautlis?
[16:09] <NOSaturn> i may have had an addon thing that modified that too, but i tried to remove all those before upgrading
[16:10] <Daekdroom> There should be one quicklist for Nautilus, indeed.
[16:11] <Daekdroom> The video lens is available through the unity-lens-video package
[16:11] <Daekdroom> and "Privacy" under system settings should be there by default
[16:12] <NOSaturn> Daekdroom, yeah.... but it seems since i had messed with those before, it broke the 12.4 version. :-/ shouldn't i be able to "wipe" the existing and re-up on the beta bits?
[16:14] <Daekdroom> !info activity-log-manager-control-center
[16:39] <cog> how do I get my synaptic to make my computer have all three sets of scientific software?  I shift-clicked &
[16:39] <cog> it failed
[16:39] <glosoli> zzecool: you here ?
[16:39] <zzecool> glosoli:  yes but not for long
[16:39] <zzecool> :)
[16:39] <zzecool> tell me
[16:39] <glosoli> may you try pm me ?
[16:39] <glosoli> wana check sms
[16:39] <zzecool> yes
[16:39] <glosoli> smth
[16:40] <zzecool> i did
[16:40] <zzecool> cog: what do you mean ?
[16:41] <zzecool> if you want to mark multiple packages try one by one
[16:41] <cog> I want all the educational & mathematical & scientific categories of software available through synaptic so I used shift to select one subset
[16:42] <cog> but it fails
[16:42] <cog> "Depends: libbiojava-java but it is not going to be installed"
[16:42] <mali> hmmm in the normal ubuntu channel they say they dont do normal support but I guess some kind of first time users support. I am on oneiric though.. does ubuntu ahave any channel meant for linux users? :/
[16:42] <glosoli> #ubuntu ? :D
[16:44] <mali> when I asked a rather simple linnux question, they said they dont get that kinda advanced questions in there
[16:44] <mali> so I am looking for a normal channel for linux users, which are on this distro :)
[16:44] <mali> ubuntu-devel?
[16:44] <bazhang> no
[16:44] <zzecool> mali: ubuntu is a linux distribution  for support go to #ubuntu
[16:44] <zzecool> here we are beta testing the nexer development release
[16:44] <zzecool> next
[16:44] <bazhang> thats not a support channel mali
[16:44] <Ian_> mali: #ubuntu is the way to go though..
[16:44] <will> mali: how specific to ubuntu is it? if it's generic, use #linux
[16:45] <bazhang> #ubuntu for support if you are on oneiric mali
[16:45] <mali> blah. :( well no it is ubuntu specific else ye. . I doubt i would use #ubuntu :)
[16:45] <bazhang> mali, this is not the channel for it if you are on 11.10
[16:45] <hggdh> mali: there is always the fora, and answers.ubuntu.com
[16:45] <Dr_willis_> Err.. i never saw you actually ask somthing in #ubuntu
[16:45] <zzecool_afk> mali:  shot the question out of curiosity before i leave
[16:46]  * hggdh grabs popcorn
[16:46]  * zzecool_afk looking with jealous at hggdh
[16:46]  * Dr_willis_ eats his porkchops
[16:46]  * zzecool_afk :O
[16:47] <mali> well I need to path aka enclose the password var in slappasswd for ubuntu oneiric (server). Debian patched this in january so I presume patching doesn't always trickle too fast .. so I am wondering.. what would I do to make sure I can patch the package, and/or provide it downstream so that either patch is A)available downstream or B) does not ruin my custom patches from another update.
[16:48]  * Dr_willis_ rereads.. and thinks 'path' means 'patch' at the start... :)
[16:49] <mali> I refer to zzecool_afk : it would be this patch I guess: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=635931
[16:49] <zzecool_afk> mali: you can lock the version of the package you are using
[16:49] <Dr_willis_> every 6 mo release syncs back to debian i belive. so in 12.X the patch shuld be in there from what ive read.
[16:49] <zzecool_afk> try to search "ubuntu lock to current version"
[16:50] <mali> ok cool. so  I patch locally, lock it. report bug to ubuntu, wait till there is an update, then peruse it to make sure the patch I entered is also enclosed in an update, then unlock if I find it satisfactory say?
[16:50] <mali> 6 months on a server system??
[16:51] <zzecool_afk> mali: i cant see any other way
[16:51] <mali> slapd fails with "advanced" passwords simply because $1 is not enclosed as "$1" in slappasswd during install..
[16:52] <Ian_> zzecool_afk: bugfixes get backported too
[16:52] <zzecool_afk> this is an essential bug for you but if it is only you i dont think it is going to go firsti on the fix list
[16:52] <mali> I guess I can just run it locally then but ok.. good ot know. I guess perhaps, rolling release servers aren't necessarily less secure. hmm. Thank though zzecool_afk
[16:52] <Ian_> but not always
[16:52] <zzecool_afk> mali: you have some point about rolling but....
[16:53] <Ian_> But i think you can request it, no?
[16:53] <zzecool_afk> im rly afk now
[16:53] <mali> nah, zzecool_afk : It is not mission critical since one can I think patch it locally; use a less secure password or even run it manually afterwords as slappasswd -s "advanced_funky_password"
[16:53] <mali> ok thanks
[16:53] <zzecool_afk> :)
[16:53] <FunnyLookinHat> How can I restart Unity?  It seems to be acting up ( not launching applications when I click on their search results, etc. )
[16:54] <mali> I will give the last one a try to confirm as I left ubuntu after that erm thing came... unity or what it was :)
[16:54] <Dr_willis_> unity --restart  (i think)
[16:55] <zzecool_afk> ALT + F2    -------> unity --replace
[16:55] <zzecool_afk> im off
[16:55] <FunnyLookinHat> Cool thx
[16:58] <mali> but since I wont be touching gfx on a server, and debian don't know.. I couldn't find piece with it.. I am trying ubuntu minimal again for the server.
[16:58] <mali> although 6 month delay on some patching could be a bit strange
[16:59] <Dr_willis_> security updates between releases normally.
[16:59] <Dr_willis_> I forget the url to what/reasons/how..  saw it detailed on some wiki pages
[17:00] <mali> ye then why has the failure of setting advanced LDAP passwords *slapd* not been patched.. it was done in jan it seems on debian and upstream have fixed it too iot seems.
[17:00] <Dr_willis_> 11.10 came out in November.
[17:00] <mali> I admit, it's been since 10.10 I was on ubuntu so I am a bit rusty on checking the package versions.. apt-cache search openldap?
[17:00] <Dr_willis_> the issue is also in 12.04 then the patch never got merged i would guess..
[17:01] <mali> there you go
[17:01] <mali> I find that strange for a server edition
[17:01] <Ian_> mali: apt-cache policy
[17:01] <mali> especially something like ldap root password script ;/
[17:01] <Dr_willis_> there may be other reasons for the patch not getting moved along. I rarely pay attention to it.
[17:01] <Dr_willis_> !info openldap
[17:01] <mali> its only enclosing a password field in brackets.. but I can't remember my launchpad either hehe. I guess I will patch it and send it off to devels
[17:02] <Dr_willis_> search launchpad for similer bug reports first perhaps?
[17:02] <mali> ye well I ended up here talking cos one cant ask normal linuxx questions in ubuntu support it seemed
[17:02] <mali> only how do i type on a keyboard? kinda questions
[17:02] <Dr_willis_> This is not a 'normal' linux question.. and ive seen more complex ones asked in #ubuntu
[17:02] <mali> (not that I can, myself ,p)
[17:02] <mali> well , thank god then. Because that is what I got in reply
[17:03] <mali> and it is not a complex question really, by all means.
[17:03] <Dr_willis_> never saw that reply. then again patching stuff is not really common for the majority of users.
[17:03] <mali> thanks Ian_ btw
[17:03] <Dr_willis_> THeres also the #ubuntu-server channel but i never go there.
[17:04] <mali> so are you saying that 'server' peeps dont have an own chan for support and discussion, only the one along with the well, new to linux users?
[17:04] <Dr_willis_> THen theres the   askubuntu.com site thats getting better all the time.
[17:04] <mali> or is that part of canonical's paid support services?
[17:04] <mali> AHHH, there you go
[17:04] <Dr_willis_>  I just said theres a Ubuntu-servers channel. :)
[17:04] <mali> THAT's what I was looking for, I am sorry.. I asked in ubuntu for which channel and that too they failed to say when i asked which channel to go to.
[17:04] <Dr_willis_> theres also a #ubuntu-beginners i think.
[17:04] <mali> yes, you did.. the channel I was meant to be in , however, did not ,(
[17:05] <Dr_willis_> I dont even know how many people are even in the server channel on a daily basis.
[17:05] <mali> thats where most ubuntu users seem to should go in the #ubuntu chan
[17:05] <mali> but thanks..
[17:05] <Dr_willis_> I never go to the beginner channel either. :) i help out in #ubuntu all the time.
[17:05] <wtfdoggie22> hi, i'm running precise and just tried to update and now some packages are broken ... could anyone help me investigate?
[17:06] <valdur55> wtfdoggie22, some packages,
[17:06] <wtfdoggie22> Mar  6 17:58:56 Erdbeere AptDaemon.Worker: CRITICAL: gvfs-bin: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[17:06] <wtfdoggie22> Mar  6 17:58:56 Erdbeere AptDaemon.Worker: CRITICAL: libglib2.0-bin: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[17:06] <valdur55> !paste wtfdoggie22
[17:07] <Dr_willis_> often during beta.. things get really messed up - then fixed the next day. :)
[17:07] <valdur55> !pastebin wtfdoggie22
[17:07] <wtfdoggie22> ok ok i use pastebin
[17:07] <Dr_willis_> ive not updated in 3+ days.. so cant really advice
[17:07] <wtfdoggie22> http://pastebin.com/ECzU8PzW
[17:08] <wtfdoggie22> i few days ago i wondered why there were packages shown in the update manager that were not marked
[17:08] <wtfdoggie22> wenn trying to install them in synaptics it said it wanted to remove a lot packages in order to install them
[17:09] <wtfdoggie22> so i didn't install them
[17:09] <wtfdoggie22> i think ubuntu tried to install them now
[17:09] <wtfdoggie22> but dont know why
[17:11] <alex_mayorga> Is it safe to remove /usr/lib32 now that multiarch has took over?
[17:16] <cog> how do i make a window go to a workspace
[17:16] <will> cog: ctrl + shift + alt + arrow button
[17:17] <bmoez> hi, is there any tutoriel to learn how to tweak unity in ubuntu 12.04 by any script (not a program like my-unity)?
[17:17] <cog> thanks will
[17:17] <will> there's a button combo to change workspace too, but i've forgotten how to do that
[17:18] <will> ah - it's super + shift + direction keys
[17:18] <will> cog: hold super button to see combos
[17:19] <wtfdoggie22> here is more info about the broken dependency problem: trying to add gvfs-bin in synaptics: http://imagebin.org/202220
[17:19] <wtfdoggie22> trying to add libglib: http://imagebin.org/202221
[17:20] <scar3crow> vmware modules won't compile... :(
[17:30] <wtfdoggie22> so it looks like apt-get -f install solved the problem
[17:30] <wtfdoggie22> but no idea what happend
[18:07] <cog> synaptic won't open
[18:07] <valdur55> cog, open terminal and then shoot synaptic :) Then you get error msg
[18:32] <Edico> hi
[18:33] <Edico> how can I have another panel besides the left one in unity?
[18:34] <Edico> a panel in which I put icons
[18:34] <Ian_> you can't
[18:36] <mp_> hi all! i can't upgrade from 11.10 via update-manager. won't show the new available version. any ideas?
[18:37] <mp_> is editing sources.list an option?
[18:38] <Fyodorovna> mp_, is 11.10 your main OS?
[18:38] <mp_> yep
[18:38] <Fyodorovna> mp_, not a good move really do you have a clone of 11.10?
[18:38] <mp_> unfortunately not
[18:39] <mp_> is that the way to go?
[18:39] <mp_> *one way
[18:39] <mp_> i always could use alternate install image
[18:39] <mp_> i suppose
[18:39] <Fyodorovna> mp_, always have a image is a good idea. Having one will protect you.
[18:40] <Fyodorovna> mp_, you might condider dual booting the development can fail.
[18:40] <Fyodorovna> consider*
[18:40] <mp_> the data on this machine is not important at all to me
[18:40] <Ian_> other then that, use update-manager -d
[18:41] <mp_> so, i might just do a full install
[18:41] <mp_> Ian_: that's what i did
[18:41] <mp_> :)
[18:41] <Fyodorovna> mp_, it will be much faster and just a beter move really.
[18:41] <mp_> would this normally run without gksu?
[18:41] <mp_> it didn't work for me
[18:41] <Fyodorovna> mp_, gksu where?
[18:42] <mp_> dunno how it's called in ubuntu. after alt+f2
[18:42] <Fyodorovna> mp_, you don't upgrade in root.
[18:43] <mp_> well, update.manager just wouldn't start otherwise. but good to know
[18:43] <Fyodorovna> ah tty
[18:43] <mp_> tty?
[18:43] <Fyodorovna> cli
[18:43] <Fyodorovna> comand line basically
[18:43] <Fyodorovna> command*
[18:44] <Ian_> mp_: I would advice against updating to a beta if you don' tknow this term
[18:44] <mp_> well, not my terminal. i think it once was called krunner in kde distros
[18:44] <mp_> Ian_: thanks for that
[18:45] <Fyodorovna> Ian_, many other flags here but what can yah say eh. :)
[18:45] <mp_> so, editing sources.list to the beta repos is not an option? cause that's what i do in debian when upgrading
[18:46] <Fyodorovna> mp_, honestly no.
[18:46] <mp_> any idea what went wrong with my install?
[18:47] <Fyodorovna> mp_, nothing it sounds like it is just an area that you seem lost in. UPgarding to a development is not for the faint at heart.
[18:47] <Fyodorovna> upgrading*
[18:48] <mp_> Fyodorovna: thanks for your kind words, i appreciate that, really.
[18:48] <Fyodorovna> mp_, an upgrade if you got it working might take 4 hours, fresh install 20 min.
[18:49] <mp_> my last ubuntu upgarde must have been 2008, so, i really don't know anymore
[18:50] <jtaylor> eatmydata it and you get it done in 30min + 10 min :)
[18:52] <Fyodorovna> jtaylor, your advising a person unable to even get it started to use another method on a development?
[18:52] <mp_> well, i'm not really in the mood to hook up my usb dvd-rom and do a complete install. i thought i'd get it the easy way. i'll just wait, methinks
[18:53] <mp_> Fyodorovna: well, as i said, the method mentioned on ubuntu.com didn't work for me. i had to become root for som,e reason
[18:54] <Ian_> mp_: changing the sources should work
[18:54] <Ian_> but make sure you are fully uptodate first
[18:54] <mp_> done that
[18:54] <Ian_> and watch out if you have any ppa's installed
[18:54] <mp_> nothing like that. thanks mate
[18:55] <mp_> but i'm curious though _why_ the standard way didn't work for me
[18:56] <mp_> oh, yeah, i also can't switch into tty1-6
[19:00] <mp_> weird, had to restart my terminal after changing into tty1
[19:24] <mp_> is kde in the ubuntu repos or are there different kubuntu repos?
[19:26] <mp_> *can't check - upgrade is running
[19:26] <Fyodorovna> mp_, the kubuntu-desktop and all its stuff is in the Ubuntu repos
[19:26] <mp_> thanks, will try that later
[19:27] <mp_> so, kubuntu-desktop is the virt. package to go
[19:27] <Fyodorovna> mp_, ???
[19:28] <gareth_> hey guys, is there someone who might know how to show me a way to find out why qjackctl will start in RT mode whilst running as su, but not when I'm running it on my user account? I've added myself to the audio group, what else do I need to do?
[19:28] <mp_> oh, i meant if kubuntu-desktop is the name of the package to get the kde desktop
[19:28] <Fyodorovna> mp_, yeah. :)
[19:28] <mp_> :)
[19:34] <mp_> so, while i'm still upgrading: how cool is 12.04? more stable than 11.10?
[19:34] <glosoli> Anyone has knowledge connecting to ubuntu from ubuntu using Desktop Sharing ?
[19:35] <ironhalik> mp_: its a 'meta package' to be exact :)
[19:36] <mp_> i always called them virtual packages. but thanks :)
[19:39] <Fyodorovna> mp_, not really more stable it is in development, at least that is the rhetoric.
[19:40] <ironhalik> Theres tons of small improvements
[19:40] <ironhalik> and some bigger ones
[19:40] <ironhalik> Generally, its the first Ubuntu iteration that got me to install it on my desktop without dualbooting
[19:40] <ironhalik> and thats saying a lot ;> for me at least :>
[19:41] <mp_> well, it's beta after all. i just read about the new hud, actually i only saw a screenshot and thought i'd need to see that, that's why i'm upgrading
[19:41] <ironhalik> Unity is much snappier overall
[19:42] <mp_> even though i'm not a ubuntu user i always liked the idea of unity. 11.10 was just a bit unstable
[19:43] <mp_> good things need time, i think
[19:45] <mp_> ironhalik: what was your other os?
[19:46] <ironhalik> shhh, I shouldt say the name here ;>
[19:46] <mp_> oh, a classic :)
[19:46] <Captain_Proton> anyone know how to make empathy pop open a window in GS
[20:12] <RISCi_ATOM> Has anyone else had issues with qemu and kvm not properly installing?
[20:14] <mp_> any error?
[20:15] <RISCi_ATOM> I have not had time to debug now, but "apt-get install qemu" does not properly install qemu :\
[20:15] <RISCi_ATOM> There are no errors with its installation
[20:16] <mp_> what gives apt-cache policy qemu?
[20:17] <RISCi_ATOM> qemu:
[20:17] <RISCi_ATOM>   Installed: 1.0+noroms-0ubuntu6
[20:17] <RISCi_ATOM>   Candidate: 1.0+noroms-0ubuntu6
[20:18] <mp_> looks good to me
[20:19] <RISCi_ATOM> In the "Software Center" (I do not like to use), says that it has been replaced by a dummy pkg :\
[20:19] <mp_> never played around with kvm though
[20:19] <mp_> did you find a howto?
[20:19] <blizzow> Mega bummer, I just updated, rebooted and now I get this nasty grub-efi boot message that says:  "null in the ring    Aborted.  Press any key to exit."
[20:19] <blizzow> where is the any key?
[20:20] <mp_> irc classic
[20:20] <blizzow> after I found the any key, I pressed it and get:  .alloc magic is broken at 0xd3c9fca0
[20:21] <blizzow> I tried to boot into a livecd, mounted proc,sys,dev,dev/pts, and reinstall grub.  That did not help.  Does anyone have suggestions on how to fix this problem?
[20:21] <mp_> you better find that place in your ram and fix it
[20:26] <mp_> alright, 70 minutes from s/oneiric/precise/g to telinit 6 and i'm not in the mood to fix what i broke. laters
[20:31] <mp_> at least my tty1 works again :(
[20:33] <jmazzi> lightdm isn't sourcing my ~/.xsession on login
[20:33] <jmazzi> anyone know why?
[20:46] <legodude> hi everyone, when I try to 'kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade' I get "No new release found" when trying to do 11.10->12.04, any ideas?
[20:49] <mp_> jmazzi: just a long shot: did you adjust your xsession-directory in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf?
[20:50] <jmazzi> mp_: i did not
[20:50] <jmazzi> i'll take a look at what's set
[20:50] <trism> jmazzi: ~/.xsessionrc is sourced on login, if you actually want to use ~/.xsession, the .desktop file in the first comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/lightdm/+bug/818864 works (just tested)
[20:50] <trism> jmazzi: when you copy it to /usr/share/xsessions/ that is
[20:51] <jmazzi> trism: are you saying i simply need to rename the file to .xsessionrc or do i need to apply a patch from that ticket too?
[20:52] <yofel> legodude: check /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and make sure that prompt isn't set to Never
[20:53] <trism> jmazzi: if you just want the file sourced, then yes, just rename it, it is sourced in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40x11-common_xsessionrc
[20:53] <jmazzi> trism: fantastic, thanks for the help!
[20:59] <chrisg91> Hi I'm trying to install 12.04 alongside windows 7 so I chose that option but that slider that lets you choose how to allocate disk space between the two does not label which one is for ubuntu and which is for ubuntu, can someone tell me if the slider on the left is for ubuntu or is it the right one, I want to give ubuntu a smaller partition
[21:00] <Fyodorovna> chrisg91, ersize Wy with its disk manager
[21:00] <Fyodorovna> resize
[21:00] <Fyodorovna> W7 doh
[21:01] <Fyodorovna> chrisg91, your really better leting windows do thien check that it still works then install ubnuntu.
[21:01] <chrisg91> Fyodorovna: okay I guess thats the safest way thanks
[21:02] <Fyodorovna> chrisg91, make sure you have W7 cloned=image and a recovery disc as well.
[21:12] <legodude> yofel: thought I had changed that in one of the gui programs, but it was set to lts, now working, thanks
[21:12] <yofel> legodude: software-properties-kde doesn't set that right, known issue
[21:13] <legodude> doh, thanks for your help
[21:17] <fairuz_> Hey, how to know if I'm using beta 1 or alpha?
[21:17] <glosoli> fairuz_: if you are up to date
[21:17] <glosoli> you are using beta
[21:18] <glosoli> it's matter of packages not the name on the iso file
[21:18] <fairuz_> ok thanks
[21:18] <mp_> or compare the kernel versions
[21:41] <cwainey> ARe graphical artifacts on login common under precise?
[21:44] <cwainey> ARe graphical artifacts on login common under precise?
[21:46] <cheako> Hello, I'm adding a delay in fsck because luks takes a few seconds to have it's devices identified....  The UUIDs are renamed from (UUID)-unformatted to (UUID)-ext4 or whatever.  fsck keeps dumping errors like (UUID)-unformatted file not found, a race condition from when the prog that calls fsck to when fsck is actually run...  perhaps I'll see if I can get fsck to take a file handle instead?
[21:50] <cwainey> ARe graphical artifacts on login common under precise?
[22:00] <cwainey> anybody experience screen garbage when logging in on Precise?
[22:00] <cheako> cwainey: On startup yes.
[22:00] <c3sso> cwainey: seems like unity-greeter is full of bugs
[22:00] <Fyodorovna> cwainey, can we get a screen shot?
[22:00] <cwainey> maybe..
[22:00] <c3sso> my advice is to use lightdm-gtk-greeter until the have sorted it out
[22:01] <c3sso> they
[22:01] <cheako> Fyodorovna: This could be the initial video memory prior to the first glclear.
[22:01] <Fyodorovna> cwainey, I have not seen any problems myself.
[22:01] <Daekdroom> cwainey, there's a bug report on it already
[22:01] <Daekdroom> bug 931967
[22:04] <c3sso> I actually failed to change any values in unity-greeter (like grid on / off or background) after the switch to dconf
[22:04] <cwainey> Howwould I switch the greeter?
[22:05] <c3sso> installing the package   lightdm-gtk-greeter
[22:05] <cwainey> Simple enough :P
[22:06] <c3sso> thats not all: and then set it as default greeter:
[22:07] <c3sso> sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -g gtk-greeter
[22:07] <cwainey> That all?
[22:09] <c3sso> Yes. you can restart lightdm with   sudo initctl restart lightdm
[22:09] <c3sso> or reboot
[22:11] <cwainey> Whaddaya know, it worked... thanks
[22:12] <c3sso> good to hear.
[22:13] <c3sso> this greeter is propably not too fancy bit mostly works
[22:13] <c3sso> I say mostly because the shutdown and reboot entries top left do nothing for me
[22:14] <cwainey> haha
[22:14] <c3sso> cwainey: could you check that? they also did not work with unity-greeter
[22:15] <cwainey> give me a mo..
[22:17] <c3sso> Does anybody know how to change settings of unity-greeter ? I tried to use dconf-editor, but it does not take the changes I made there
[22:23] <cwainey> c3sso, shutdown button do not work for me, and I had to switch back to unity-greeter...
[22:25] <c3sso> ok
[22:25] <c3sso> I will file a bug then..
[22:26] <FernandoMiguel> HALP HALP
[22:26] <FernandoMiguel> latest updates made my screen brightess set to MAX
[22:31] <blizzow> holy cats google is fast... http://ubuntulinuxgethelp.com/2012/03/after-todays-updates-bang/
[22:32] <blizzow> I have the exact same problem.  Does anyone know of/how to fix this?
[22:35] <FernandoMiguel> anyone recalls where I can ECHO the bright setting?
[22:37] <FernandoMiguel> $ cd /proc/acpi/
[22:37] <FernandoMiguel> ac_adapter/ battery/    button/
[22:37] <FernandoMiguel> aint going far with that
[22:39] <trism> c3sso: you can use gsettings vendor overrides, I don't now if there is a better way though: http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/gsettings-override-2011-07-04-15-45
[22:41] <eruditehermit> hey, did screen brightness break in general or did I screw something up on my system?
[22:41] <mykrobinson> Suddenly today, I am no longer able to control my screen brightness.. Any ideas?
[22:42] <eruditehermit> mykrobinson, ok i have the same issue
[22:43] <FernandoMiguel> eruditehermit: broken for me
[22:43] <eruditehermit> yay
[22:43] <FernandoMiguel> it doesn't even detect the display
[22:43] <FernandoMiguel> mykrobinson: join the group
[22:43] <eruditehermit> as long as its not just me
[22:43] <FernandoMiguel> someone file a critical bug pleaase
[22:43] <FernandoMiguel> I'm going BLIND here
[22:43] <eruditehermit> lol
[22:43] <eruditehermit> me too
[22:43] <FernandoMiguel> and it's killing my battery
[22:43] <eruditehermit> f.lux for now
[22:43] <FernandoMiguel> eruditehermit: I can't even echo the bright :(
[22:44] <eruditehermit> FernandoMiguel, how does one echo the bright?
[22:44] <mykrobinson> so long as I didnt break it..
[22:44] <mykrobinson> Probably my fault for pushing updates before being notified to push updates. I cant help it..
[22:45] <eruditehermit> lol
[22:45] <FernandoMiguel> /sys/class/drm$ ll | pastebinit
[22:45] <FernandoMiguel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/872170/
[22:45] <FernandoMiguel> eruditehermit: you can't... it's broken too
[22:45] <eruditehermit> my battery meter is also broken =p
[22:46] <FernandoMiguel> (06-03-2012 22:45:37) seb128: it's a gnome-settings-daemon issue
[22:46] <FernandoMiguel> (06-03-2012 22:45:43) seb128: FernandoMiguel, no, I might look at it tomorrow
[22:46] <FernandoMiguel> guess we will have to wait
[22:46] <eruditehermit> hrm
[22:46] <eruditehermit> maybe we can downgrade gnome-settings daemon
[22:47] <FernandoMiguel> big MAYBE
[22:48] <FernandoMiguel> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  461K Mar  2 07:35 gnome-settings-daemon_3.3.90-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[22:49] <FernandoMiguel> rebooting
[22:49] <DrHalan> hey suspending worked fine in oneiric for me. and it still does in precise but when my machine is suspended the fan keeps running (even faster than when not suspended).
[22:49] <DrHalan> is there a way to debug suspending?
[22:50] <eruditehermit> btw does anyone know how to make unity panel applets run in gnome-shell?
[22:50] <FernandoMiguel> FYI it's working again
[22:50] <eruditehermit> FernandoMiguel, nice
[22:50] <eruditehermit> FernandoMiguel, will brb too then
[22:50] <FernandoMiguel> if anyone needs the older package 64bits I can provide it
[22:51] <FernandoMiguel> or else, pull it out of LP
[22:51] <eruditehermit> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/3.3.90-0ubuntu4/+build/3253267
[22:51] <FernandoMiguel> there you go :D
[22:51] <eruditehermit> brb
[22:52] <DrHalan> fixing suspend? anyone? should i report a bug?
[22:52] <DrHalan> what package is responsible for suspending? the linux kernel?
[22:53] <FernandoMiguel> and now chrome isn't opening
[22:53] <FernandoMiguel> DrHalan: 5 dupes already filed
[22:53] <FernandoMiguel> oh suspending
[22:53] <FernandoMiguel> no idea, but might be related
[22:54] <eruditehermit> worked here
[22:54] <eruditehermit> btw do you guys know about hybrid graphics?
[22:56] <eruditehermit> I was trying this
[22:56] <eruditehermit> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics#Script_for_use_during_bootup
[22:56] <eruditehermit> but it doesn't turn off my discrete GPU still
[22:58] <FernandoMiguel> eruditehermit: #ubuntu-x
[22:59] <eruditehermit> FernandoMiguel, thanks!
[22:59] <eruditehermit> FernandoMiguel, do you use unity?
[23:00] <FernandoMiguel> ofc
[23:00] <eruditehermit> ah


[02:02] <plomme> hello
[02:03] <plomme> I've got a quick newbie question. Got my launchpad.dev running  and upon registering I'm asked for an email but nothing seems to work? maybe I'm missing something really obvious
[02:03] <plomme> any help would be appreciated
[02:30] <plomme> nvm I got it
[03:00] <wgrant> plomme<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>and<EMAIL_ADDRESS>are the three most useful accounts.
[03:19] <plomme> thanks!! only figured one of those out. thanks for two others


[02:08] <tech-hero> ang aga!
[06:52] <tech-hero> game na ba?
[06:56] <tech-hero> present!
[06:56] <tech-hero> sino online na?
[07:00] <tech-hero> buzz
[07:00] <tech-hero> 15:00!
[07:01] <tech-hero> welcome everyone!
[07:05] <tech-hero> anybody here?
[07:07] <tech-hero> :|
[07:08] <Knightlust> o/ here. but in bed sick.
[07:08] <zakame> !startmeeting
[07:08] <butiki> zakame: Error: "startmeeting" is not a valid command.
[07:09] <zakame> #startmeeting
[07:09] <MootBot> Meeting started at 02:09. The chair is zakame.
[07:09] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[07:09] <zakame> hello
[07:10] <Knightlust> hey zak
[07:10] <kidsodateless> hi, i'm on time hehe
[07:10] <zakame> sorry I'm a bit late, was deploying stuff lol
[07:10] <tech-hero> aye aye captain!
[07:11] <zakame> heya Knightlust kidsodateless tech-hero :)
[07:11] <zakame> I'll just keep this brief
[07:11] <tech-hero> alright!
[07:11] <zakame> agenda is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhilippineTeam/Agenda
[07:12] <zakame> [TOPIC] Team announcements and formalization of monthly team IRC meetings
[07:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Team announcements and formalization of monthly team IRC meetings
[07:13] <zakame> so for team announcements, actually this is just to recap the activities of the past few months
[07:14] <zakame> first is that we had release parties for natty
[07:14] <zakame> 2 in fact :)
[07:15] <zakame> the first one was organized by ulinskie at Zamboanga
[07:15] <zakame> I'm still waiting for her writeup on the wiki news page though
[07:16] <zakame> and we had another here in Manila
[07:16] <zakame> we got some people from the press to cover it
[07:17] <zakame> and eventually got some screen time at ANC's Future Perfect show to plug it
[07:17] <tech-hero> yeah.
[07:17] <zakame> I'm stil waiting for the copy of the video though
[07:18] <zakame> I was told ANCAlerts will put it up on its youtube page
[07:18] <zakame> but I also asked if we can get a raw copy as well
[07:19] <Knightlust> at least we got pics uploaded by O&B on their fb account
[07:19] <zakame> yep
[07:19] <zakame> so there's that for recent news on the team's activities
[07:20] <zakame> as for other news, re: the locoteam re-approval
[07:20] <zakame> we're effectively on extended approved status until October
[07:21] <tech-hero> alright
[07:21] <Knightlust> but should we wait that long for re-approval?
[07:21] <zakame> so until then we have time for sharing ideas and planning activities
[07:22] <zakame> Knightlust: I was told we no longer have to show up on subsequent re-approval meetings, it will be decided solely by the ApprovalApplication and activities of the team
[07:23] <Knightlust> nice! at least we no longer have to deal with the timezone issues
[07:23] <zakame> yeah
[07:23] <zakame> we just have to keep that page updated ;)
[07:23] <tech-hero> i think we really have to show them that we exist
[07:24] <tech-hero> have you read mr. Frances' post on facebook group?
[07:24] <zakame> indeed, just looking at the FB group page shows it :)
[07:24] <Knightlust> tech-hero: link please
[07:24] <jongbergs> hello everyone!
[07:25] <zakame> hi jongbergs pinoyskull :)
[07:25] <pinoyskull> hey zak
[07:25] <jongbergs> very sorry i'm too late for the meeting!
[07:25] <jongbergs> hi zakame pinoyskull
[07:25] <zakame> no prob :) logs will be up later
[07:25] <jongbergs> ok
[07:25] <pinoyskull> hey jongbergs
[07:26] <zakame> tech-hero: yep, I'm watching it
[07:27] <zakame> I'm glad that there's a new lug effort getting started
[07:27] <tech-hero> in case, people from our group would like to have an event, for example, open source advocacy, could we include it as part of our LoCo activities?
[07:27] <zakame> since plug is mainly a mailing list now :P
[07:28] <zakame> sure, as long as it is about ubuntu, or talks about ubuntu in some way
[07:28] <zakame> btw we have better presense/visibility now that we have the gifts from canonical
[07:28] <jongbergs> im from davao, and have no idea whether there was an event like just what you have been doinng for years.
[07:28]  * Knightlust headesk... you're talking about francis arellano's meetup.
[07:29] <corden_work_mode> I also wonder jongbergs - I'm from davao too
[07:29] <zakame> jongbergs: hehehe its ok, for the longest time the loco activities are mostly spontaneous events
[07:29] <jongbergs> corden_work_mode: really? i'm actually working at davao del norte state college
[07:30] <jongbergs> in panabo city, just 2hrs travel fro davao city
[07:30] <jongbergs> zakame: i see..
[07:31] <tech-hero> @zakame: then how can we get your approval? any standard procedures?
[07:31] <butiki> tech-hero: Error: "zakame:" is not a valid command.
[07:31] <tech-hero> zakame: then how can we get your approval? any standard procedures?
[07:33] <pinoyskull> lol butiki :D
[07:33] <zakame> tech-hero: currently it is just "let me know about it" :P I imagine there'd be a more formal framework in place for that soon
[07:33] <jongbergs> corden_work_mode: how about planning an event in davao in one of these days? the seniors here can guide us though :)
[07:34] <zakame> tech-hero: there used to be this means so that I can get a conference pack sent to requestors, that includes ubuntu cds and swag
[07:34] <corden_work_mode> that would be a good idea
[07:35] <zakame> ah there we go
[07:35] <zakame> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences
[07:36] <tech-hero> I've read the link
[07:36] <tech-hero> what about the cost :[
[07:36] <tech-hero> :D
[07:37] <jongbergs> zakame: we're planning to have an Ubuntu event in davao, how do we get approval?
[07:37] <tech-hero> any permits?
[07:37] <zakame> let me move that on to a new topic
[07:37] <jongbergs> zakame: im reading the link now to get more info
[07:37] <jongbergs> ok
[07:37] <zakame> [TOPIC] UpcomingTeam events
[07:37] <MootBot> New Topic:  UpcomingTeam events
[07:38] <zakame> That's at least 2, no 3 upcoming activities that the locoteam may work on
[07:38] <zakame> tech-hero: jongbergs: when's the tentative date?
[07:39] <zakame> there's also SFD by next month
[07:39] <kidsodateless> i was not able to put my topic :  team participation for sfd next month.
[07:39] <jongbergs> zakame: i'll have to ask first with corden_work_mode
[07:39] <zakame> jongbergs: no prob
[07:40] <kidsodateless> PUP QC  will celebrate Software Freedom Day also and I will be there for free talks. :)
[07:41] <zakame> kidsodateless: that's awesome! :)
[07:41] <zakame> there's at least a couple of SFD philippine teams every year
[07:41] <zakame> the one at PUP (organized by CPUnion) and one by 8Layer
[07:41] <jongbergs> corden_work_mode: this is my email edbergavera AT gmail.com hope we can get in touch so that we can plan the time and location of the event.
[07:42] <zakame> wow just looking at http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Philippines there's a lot more involved
[07:43] <corden_work_mode> here's mine: cordennaraga AT gmail.com
[07:44] <zakame> kidsodateless: this one? http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Philippines/QuezonCity/DOMT.Cs
[07:44] <kidsodateless> zakame: yup
[07:45] <zakame> awesome
[07:45] <kidsodateless> Who wants to participate ? this just like a normal meet-up on the event.
[07:45] <jongbergs> corden_work_mode: just added you to g+ ubuntu circles :)
[07:45] <kidsodateless>  we could also divide our group to participate to SFD with cpu, webgeek, or in any events that you are near at.
[07:45] <zakame> yep
[07:46] <zakame> there's a whole lot of SFD events now
[07:46] <zakame> so take your pick :)
[07:46] <zakame> I guess I can request a confpack for this then
[07:46] <corden_work_mode> jongbergs, same here
[07:47] <zakame> ok, so for those interested in holding an Ubuntu event in the near future, please contact me
[07:47] <tech-hero> alright. roger that :)
[07:47] <jongbergs> corden_work_mode: do you any idea about SFD in our area?
[07:47] <jongbergs> zakame: ok i got that..
[07:48] <corden_work_mode> nop
[07:48] <zakame> I can probably get a conference pack requested so it can be distributed across all events
[07:48] <jongbergs> zakame: email g+ or irc?
[07:48] <tech-hero> jongbergs: visit the link above and try to look for a place nearest to you
[07:48] <zakame> jongbergs: email or g+ would be best
[07:48] <zakame> also on the fb group too
[07:49] <jongbergs> zakame: ok
[07:49] <jongbergs> zakame: my fb acct has long been inactive :(
[07:50] <zakame> I'll let you and other organizers know ifthe confpack gets here
[07:50] <jongbergs> zakame: g+ has it all :P
[07:50] <zakame> we can decide how to distribute it after
[07:50] <zakame> jongbergs: hehehe
[07:50] <jongbergs> zakame: thanks for that..
[07:50] <kidsodateless> zakame: great! how about deploying ubuntu-ph's booth
[07:50] <kidsodateless> so we could just display and distribute some burnedCDs?:)
[07:51] <zakame> [ACTION] zakame to attempt reqeusting for Ubuntu conference pack for upcoming events
[07:51] <MootBot> ACTION received:  zakame to attempt reqeusting for Ubuntu conference pack for upcoming events
[07:51] <zakame> kidsodateless: yeah that's what I have in mind
[07:51] <jongbergs> great!
[07:51] <kidsodateless> zakame:yey
[07:51] <zakame> :)
[07:52] <zakame> so, anything else?
[07:53] <Craw^> Hello?>
[07:53] <Craw^> Zakame, tapos na meeting? lol
[07:53] <zakame> heya Craw^
[07:54] <zakame> just about to lol
[07:54] <kidsodateless> zakame: we could use origami cdsleeves,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1574412 (orginal project of ubuntu-ca)
[07:54] <zakame> kidsodateless: ooh that's nice
[07:54] <zakame> yeah in case we don't get pressed CDs
[07:55] <zakame> heya yolynne
[07:55] <yolynne> hi guys sorry am late ..
[07:55] <zakame> no prob, logs will be out in a bit
[07:55] <Craw^> lol may mas late sa akin, si yolynne :D
[07:56] <zakame> yolynne: can you update the PhilippineTeam/News with info on the Zamboanga RP?
[07:56] <yolynne> sge... will check it in awhile.. sge go on
[07:56] <Craw^> May I ask what you're talking about right now?
[07:56] <jongbergs> hello Craw^ yolynne
[07:56] <zakame> Craw^: hehehe
[07:56] <Craw^> Hi Jongbergs, thanks for the welcome
[07:56] <zakame> #topic
[07:57] <yolynne> well.. we had the release party last month.. half of the attendees are long time users of ubuntu.. and the other half are newbies
[07:57] <zakame> Craw^: team events and what to do
[07:58] <yolynne> no presentations were done.. just sharing of personal experiences on IT in general and the seasoned developers volunteered to help the new ones.
[07:58] <zakame> yolynne: awesome still :)  sorry we didn't get to sync the parties
[07:58] <Craw^> Thanks. I'm a SuperNub.
[07:58] <yolynne> @Zak where you able to download the photos... I know I still have some in my FB album.. for the portal
[07:58] <butiki> yolynne: Error: "Zak" is not a valid command.
[07:59] <zakame> yolynne: yep
[07:59] <zakame> oh, speaking of the portal
[07:59] <zakame> [TOPIC] ubuntu-ph.org site future
[08:00] <MootBot> New Topic:  ubuntu-ph.org site future
[08:00] <zakame> currently ubuntu-ph.org is down :(
[08:00] <Craw^> zakame - I noticed matagal na down yan... is it being discontinued?
[08:00] <zakame> Knightlust: I remember you telling me you got the SQL and file dumps right?
[08:00] <Knightlust> I have the files and the db dump
[08:01] <yolynne> i suggested Knightlust to include a submit a success story link para we can populate ubuntu stories all over the philippines
[08:01] <Knightlust> should we have it hosted by canonical
[08:01] <zakame> Craw^: yeah, but not really discontinued
[08:02] <jongbergs> to my knowledge ubutu loco sites uses drupal CMS..am i right into this?
[08:02] <zakame> Knightlust: that or we could get another provider
[08:02] <zakame> jongbergs: yep
[08:02] <Knightlust> 110mb.com was ok back then when they retired mekong
[08:02] <kidsodateless> is the site down because were on re-approval process?
[08:02] <Knightlust> unsure of it now
[08:03] <zakame> Knightlust: though it might be an uphill battle to get it re-hosted on canonical again, I guess I'll ask around
[08:03] <zakame> kidsodateless: nope, entirely unrelated
[08:03] <Craw^> What are your hosting requirements? I might be able to share some of mine...
[08:03] <Knightlust> ayt
[08:04] <Knightlust> Craw^: uptime's important, and basic LAMP with mod_rewrite
[08:04] <zakame> Knightlust: its on drupal and mysql right?
[08:04] <Knightlust> zakame: yeah
[08:04] <Knightlust> if we need PlanetPlanet, we'll need shell access as well as python installed
[08:05] <zakame> yeah
[08:05] <zakame> hmmm
[08:05] <kidsodateless> zakame: oright, cleared.
[08:05] <Craw^> Uptime and basic LAMP good to go... now, Newbie Alert: mod_rewrite?
[08:05] <zakame> Craw^: apache module for rewriting URLs
[08:05] <Knightlust> Craw^: an apache module, basically removes the ? and = from the url
[08:06] <Knightlust> it's just a url beautifier. not really important, but would be nice to have once
[08:06] <Knightlust> s/once/one/
[08:06] <Knightlust> oh, and .htaccess ability. most hosts doesn't allow custom .htaccess
[08:07] <zakame> its a long shot, but if canonical won't host, I can put it on my VPS (I'm actually on it right now for this IRC session ;)
[08:07] <Craw^> OK ganito, I have an account with HostMonster. You can check on their site if they have mod_rewrite.
[08:07] <Knightlust> zakame: nice! i'll email you the files
[08:07] <zakame> Craw^: sound good too, I'll check
[08:08] <Knightlust> Craw^: yeah, i believe they have mod_rewrite. how's the uptime though?
[08:08] <zakame> its either that or put it on the cloud lol
[08:08] <Craw^> Knightlust - Uptime is great. I don't remember the last time any of my sites went down. And they have great support. Sumasagot agad within 24 hrs.
[08:09] <Knightlust> so... your decision zakame
[08:09] <zakame> yeah, let me check first our options
[08:10] <zakame> [ACTION] check on hosting: canonical, hostmonster, etc for ubuntu-ph.org move
[08:10] <MootBot> ACTION received:  check on hosting: canonical, hostmonster, etc for ubuntu-ph.org move
[08:10] <Knightlust> ok, i'll update drupal to v7 before sending you the files and db
[08:10] <zakame> cool
[08:10] <Knightlust> but i'll do it tonight, or maybe tomorrow. still can't stand up, or sit down without falling.. nausea and vertigo
[08:11] <zakame> awww get well soon
[08:11] <Craw^> Pagaling ka Knightlust
[08:11] <Knightlust> thanks, thanks
[08:11] <zakame> ok, I guess that's about it
[08:11] <jongbergs> get well soon Knightlust
[08:11] <zakame> anything else?
[08:11] <Craw^> btw, I'll give you guys ftp access if we'll use my hostmonster account. ayokong ako ang mag-migrate, masira ko pa yan lol
[08:11] <zakame> [TOPIC] open discussion
[08:11] <MootBot> New Topic:  open discussion
[08:12] <zakame> Craw^: hehehe
[08:12] <jongbergs> guys, is anybody here been working with CICT's iSChools Project?
[08:13] <nhatz> im late.. :(
[08:13] <zakame> heya nhatz
[08:13] <yolynne> zak, did ubuntu-ph got the approval na?
[08:13] <nhatz> yo zakame
[08:13] <yolynne> get well soon Dax
[08:13] <zakame> nhatz: belated happy birthday!
[08:13] <nhatz> zakame: shhh wag maingay
[08:13] <nhatz> hahaha
[08:13] <Craw^> welcome Nhatz
[08:13] <nhatz> thanks!
[08:13] <Craw^> uy and belated happy birthday nhatz lol
[08:14] <zakame> yolynne: see log, but no, we're on extended approved status until october
[08:14] <yolynne> meron pang mas super late comer nhatz
[08:14] <zakame> hehehe
[08:14] <nhatz> hehehe
[08:14] <nhatz> yolynne: late comer o late bloomer?
[08:14] <jongbergs> hi nhatz
[08:14] <nhatz> hahaha
[08:14] <nhatz> yo jongbergs
[08:14] <yolynne> jongbergs: my husband is part of the iSchools project...
[08:15] <jongbergs> it's my first time here..glad to have met you guys..
[08:15] <zakame> ok I'll formally end the meeting, next one will be next month, september 7
[08:15] <jongbergs> yolynne: i see..
[08:15] <zakame> thanks all! :)
[08:15] <zakame> #endmeeting
[08:15] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 03:15.
[08:15] <jongbergs> yolynne: is you hubby working on the project until now?
[08:16] <Knightlust> yolynne, jongbergs thanks. bbl na ako, really need some zzz. later guys!
[08:16] <Craw^> jongbergs - it's my first time to see people talking here lol
[08:16] <jongbergs> Craw^: hehehe
[08:16] <Craw^> later, Knightlust
[08:16] <jongbergs> Knightlust: ok Godspeed..
[08:17] <jongbergs> guys, still there? can i ask more question?
[08:18] <zakame> sure
[08:18] <yolynne> jongbergs: di na.. ending phase na ang iSchools ng CICT,
[08:19] <jongbergs> yolynne: right, however we are still completing series of trainings.
[08:20] <jongbergs> zakame: i'd like to ask about instructional materials on ubuntu
[08:21] <zakame> jongbergs: such as?
[08:23] <jongbergs> zakame: such as for laboratory management for teachers. this is due to the project we are working with uses Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[08:23] <jongbergs> and we would like to provide them instructional materials with regards to managing computer lab based on ubuntu
[08:24] <jongbergs> zakame: do you have access to canonical's training materials?
[08:24] <yolynne> jongbergs: sir, wala po bang na provide ang CICT na materials for that?
[08:25] <yolynne> parang me nakita akong presentations na ginagamit nila when they did the training of trainers for lab management
[08:25] <jongbergs> yolynne: mam meron po pero it's all about ubuntu interface only.
[08:25] <zakame> jongbergs: ah, the canonical reference is the Official Ubuntu Book
[08:25] <zakame> I believe there's an update out for lucid already
[08:26] <jongbergs> zakame: yes, ur right i got it also...illegally..
[08:26] <zakame> lol
[08:26] <yolynne> haha
[08:26] <zakame> I think there's a copy on sale, I remember seeing one at National
[08:27] <jongbergs> hehehe
[08:27] <zakame> http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=0137081308
[08:28] <jongbergs> but the official ubuntu book is too comprehensive for public high school teachers who designated as lab managers
[08:28] <zakame> yeah I think that was brought up in recent docteam talks
[08:32] <zakame> jongbergs: have you tried getting the teachers to use the desktop guide instea?
[08:32] <zakame> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/index.html
[08:36] <jongbergs> zakame: yes, i have also one of those guides..im looking for another source specific for their needs
[08:38] <jongbergs> zakame: btw, thanks for your suggestions..i'll contatct you anytime if we've come up about hosting an Ubuntu event here in davao
[08:38] <zakame> ah
[08:38] <zakame> sure :)
[08:38] <vjbangisv> hello there
[08:38] <zakame> be back later, I'll just /away
[08:38] <zakame> heya vjbangisv
[08:38] <Craw^> hello
[08:38] <jongbergs> bye everyone..c u later!
[08:39] <vjbangisv> how the meeting
[08:40] <yolynne> jongbergs: you can start creating one, just choose which topics are suitable for the training, since you conduct the training yourself...
[08:40] <tech-hero> zakame will post the logs later
[08:54] <Craw^> logs now up! http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/10/%23ubuntu-ph.html
[09:05]  * kidsodateless needs to get more sleep... bye
[09:19] <tech-hero> till next time friends!
[09:19] <tech-hero> bye
[09:26] <rpcherrera> Good afternoon sirs/mam
[09:30] <rpcherrera> hello?
[09:42] <Craw^> lol laging ganito, walang nagsasalita
[09:42] <Craw^> tapos na kasi meeting
[09:42] <Craw^> hello Ralph
[09:54] <rpcherrera> ah hahaha! kaya pala
[09:54] <rpcherrera> hindi ko naabutan
[09:54] <rpcherrera> aga natapos ah?
[09:55] <Craw^> You can read the logs. Uploaded na
[09:55] <Craw^> Logs of meeting kanina: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/10/%23ubuntu-ph.html
[09:57] <rpcherrera> Thanks!
[15:57] <bobJabba> Hello
[15:58] <RaymondX> hi
[15:58] <RaymondX> wazzup
[15:58] <bobJabba> Ey! Someone's awake! :D
[15:58] <bobJabba> Kunan ko lang ng screenshot. Very rare ito eh lol
[15:58] <bobJabba> joke lang
[15:59] <RaymondX> ningas cogon mga ubuntu enthusiasts dito eh
[15:59] <bobJabba> kanina may mga active, pero naman kasi may meeting
[15:59] <bobJabba> ngayon na wala nang meeting balik sa dati lol
[16:01] <bobJabba> brb, reading...
[16:33] <compe2014> hi
[16:34] <compe2014> may online ba dyan?
[16:35] <compe2014> need help
[16:35] <compe2014> anyone?
[16:54] <RaymondX> still here bob?
[16:55] <RaymondX> still investigating the recent dos attack
[16:57] <compe2014> hey
[16:57] <compe2014> can someone help me with sis672 chipset? :(
[16:59] <RaymondX> no driver yet?
[17:00] <RaymondX> resolution problem?
[17:02] <RaymondX> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1605998
[17:08] <compe2014> 3d already fixed?
[17:24] <bobJabba> Ah hello. Sorry, reading stuff. Dami ko nang tabs naka-open :/
[17:29] <compe2014> meron na bang 3d sa sis672?
[17:31] <bobJabba> No idea, sorry.
[17:31] <compe2014> kakainis naman tong sis ayaw mag release ng mga drivers
[17:32] <bobJabba> Napuntahan mo na yung link na binigay ni Raymond?
[17:32] <bobJabba> Try mo din dito: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1589178
[17:32] <compe2014> di pa pwedi pa type ulet kasi nag relog-in ako
[17:32] <bobJabba> Ito yung galing kay Raymond: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1605998
[17:33] <bobJabba> brb, I need to get back to reading.
[17:33] <compe2014> pano ba yung compiz thingy?
[17:38] <bobJabba> ah ako din di ko pa masyado napapag-aralan yan. madaming threads at examples sa ubuntuforums


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[09:46] <pitti> doko_: I filed a MIR for libfile-mimeinfo-perl, I think we should keep it
[15:51]  * jdstrand starts perusing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PackageArchive#Consistency
[16:37] <jdstrand> cjwatson: hi. I'm looking at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/ and am wondering what are producing those reports. I've looked in the ubuntu-archive-tools and bin on lillypilly (grepping for 'probs'), but don't see it. I'm not in group ubuntu-archive on lillypilly, so can't see the cronjob
[16:38] <jdstrand> cjwatson: more to the point, I am trying to figure out how to use all the reports to fix stuff (and though looking at the scripts would help)
[16:40]  * jdstrand notices https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration#Useful%20web%20pages
[16:41] <cjwatson> ~lp_archive/testing/
[16:41] <jdstrand> cjwatson: nm, I think I can figure it out based on that page
[16:42] <cjwatson> (on cocoplum)
[16:42] <jdstrand> ah
[16:42] <jdstrand> cool
[16:42] <cjwatson> it doesn't give you a lot of drill-down information; IME it's best to set up a chdist configuration for the arch in question and then use 'chdist apt-get natty-armel install <foo>' (then Ctrl-C) to see what the problem is
[16:43] <cjwatson> you may not be able to get it to zero, there are a few long-term problems there like usb-creator
[16:43] <jdstrand> cjwatson: are these things that you would typically fix yourself, do you poke people, file bugs, or some combination?
[16:45] <cjwatson> combination
[16:46] <cjwatson> with my archive admin hat on, I mostly look for ones that are due to archive inconsistencies (stale builds, things stuck in NEW, wrong components, etc.)
[16:47] <jdstrand> ok
[17:40] <jdstrand> cjwatson: is it safe to say that http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/* are things in main and restricted and not universe and multiverse?
[17:51] <cjwatson> jdstrand: yes
[19:26] <jdstrand> fyi, talked to the desktop team about vala 0.10 and they are going to have a meeting about it within the next few days. sounds like it will be resolved before alpha 2
[19:27] <jdstrand> (vala 0.10 is nbs, but several things need to be ported to use 0.12)
[20:03] <jdstrand> cjwatson: so if a no change rebuild FTBFS, I'm thinking if the fix is obvious fix it, otherwise file a bug?
[20:04] <jdstrand> cjwatson: this happened on some universe packages in an effort to clear out the rdepends for some NBS
[20:05] <seb128> jdstrand, seems reasonable, not sure you need to file a bug or if things just get picked from regular archive rebuild tests
[20:06] <cjwatson> sounds reasonable
[20:07] <jdstrand> ok. I just was thinking I didn't want to spend all kinds of time on it, and it sounds like I should not
[20:07] <jdstrand> seb128, cjwatson: thanks
[20:08] <seb128> jdstrand, you should perhaps not bother with universe builds so early in the cycle
[20:08] <seb128> not sure if you try to clean nbs there? but starting with the CD ones seems reasonable
[20:08] <cjwatson> right - this is "archive admin on point for alpha-2 prep", so things on CDs should take priority
[20:09] <jdstrand> seb128: right-- I was doing the CD ones, and then there were just a couple of universe, so I said 'why not?'
[20:09] <jdstrand> I think I answered my question :)
[20:09] <seb128> ;-)
[20:09] <jdstrand> (all pertaining to evolution-data-server)
[20:10] <seb128> jdstrand, what about? libgdata7 rdepends?
[20:10] <jdstrand> seb128: well, I hadn't gotten to that yet. I was talking about libebook, etc
[20:10] <seb128> it's a control bug which still list it, it seems, cyphermox said he would check
[20:10] <seb128> k
[20:21] <jdstrand> do we make dvd isos for all milestones?
[20:24] <Laney> can I ask someone to pretty please accept haskell-utf8-string binaries? They were in the archive before (lucid)
[20:28] <cjwatson> jdstrand: if it's possible (it isn't always)


[00:29]  * ChinnoDog makes turkey induced yawn
[00:36] <ChinnoDog> To everyone that suggested Stratego as a game to gift last year, it is indeed fun.
[00:36] <ChinnoDog> I won twice.
[00:38] <ChinnoDog> The second time I tore through the enemy ranks with my colonel while he chased me around with his own colonel until most of his pieces were gone.
[00:48] <jedijf> used to play for hours
[00:49] <jedijf> 80's
[00:49] <jedijf> maybe started late 70's
[00:53] <MutantTurkey> stratego is for loseers
[00:53] <MutantTurkey> its all about risk
[02:24] <InHisName> I played back late 60's, nice game stratego.
[03:30] <waltman> Uno. It's all about games that can pit brother against brother and tear families asunder.
[03:30] <waltman> I guess Risk fits that too. As does croquet.
[04:30] <ChinnoDog> I like croquet. Not a game for the winter.
[04:43] <MutantTurkey> watching miracle sight
[08:56] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:39] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[09:40] <JonathanD> hi rmg51
[09:40] <JonathanD> how are ya?
[09:40] <rmg51> stuffed?
[13:02] <teddy-dbear> morning
[13:20]  * InHisName woke up medium, not stuffed and not hungry.
[14:43] <teddy-dbear> I wake up stuffed all the time :-D
[14:55] <jedijf> walmart ac/dc commercials get me rockin'
[14:56] <jedijf> i wonder if i can request hell's bells
[14:57] <waltman> speaking of which, wxpn is inexplicitly playing "Black In Black"
[14:58] <waltman> I think it's a cover...
[14:58] <waltman> Daniella Cotton. OK, it's still XPN... :)
[14:59] <EvilResistance> greetings
[15:23] <jedijf> waltman: so we both listen to XPN.....
[15:25] <jedijf> i was thinking about doing a 'blues show' black friday in the office
[15:37]  * rmg51 listens to mp3's all day
[15:38] <rmg51> or internet radio
[15:38] <rmg51> xpn is the backup
[16:40] <waltman> jedijf: they've got beru revue and tommy conwell on free at noon today!
[17:00] <jedijf> waltman: it's on in the background all day at the office...van goes kyw
[17:01] <jedijf> just welcomed tc
[17:03]  * waltman saw Tommy a lot back in the day
[18:02] <JonathanD> hi!
[18:02] <JonathanD> I just found a nice bluetooth keyboard for my phone
[19:27] <InHisName> Hi, anyone awake yet?      Does ubuntu come default with "packet socket" in it ?
[22:15] <InHisName> Ugghhh, I finnally got to bottom of mystery of my device's telnet behavior.
[22:22] <waltman> People still use telnet?
[22:37] <InHisName>  I finally made a script that will play and work with that telnet service.
[22:38] <InHisName> Seems this device needs EXTRA slow typing for it to understand what was typed at it.  Makes scripting it tedious and messy.  But I got it running now.
[22:39] <waltman> Er, couldn't you send the messages through a subroutine that inserts a delay after each character?
[22:39] <InHisName> I have an analog telephone adapter that is easiest to find out if phone line is registered with VoIP via the telnet access summary.
[22:39]  * ssweeny reads the internet using telnet to port 80 and a vivid imagination
[22:40] <InHisName> I finally slowed it down ehough to discover that that was the problem.
[22:41] <waltman> InHisName: Do you know about expect? It's a great tool for doing stuff like that. And I'd be surprised if it didn't have some facility for throttling output.
[22:41] <InHisName> I 'tested' 3 other telnet sites, devices etc. and they all were fine with full speed script typing.
[22:42] <InHisName> Its not expect.  its the typing of the response on my side.   i.e. the password needed at least 1.1 seconds tween each char typed.   1 wasnt good enough.!!
[22:43] <InHisName> Output didn't need throttling,  it was the input that needed SEVERE throttling.
[22:44] <waltman> Well, from your point of view, what you type is output, and what it sends back is input! That's what I meant.
[22:44] <InHisName> I had been doing delays of up to 20 seconds between strings.  I just never tried between chars.
[22:44] <waltman> weird
[22:45] <InHisName> Cheap hardware design.  No one on the net noticed either.  I may be one of a just a few to even try using telnet.
[22:46] <InHisName> I wanted to scrape info off it for use in nagios monitor.
[22:46] <InHisName> Now I can do that.
[22:46] <InHisName> waltman: do you know much about snmp protocol  and apps to use it ?
[23:24] <waltman> InHisName: not a thing
[23:25] <InHisName> pshaw !


[03:04] <pvl1> I'm so aggregated
[03:34] <jthan> For why?
[03:42] <pleia2> that must have been painful
[05:28] <pvl1> lol
[05:28] <pvl1> Aggravated
[05:28] <pvl1> I bought an hp two years ago
[05:29] <pvl1> never again am I buying ati mobile graphics
[05:29] <pvl1> ive not heard one good response. good idea, horrible implementation. though cell phones have made much progress in this field
[10:21] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:23] <rmg51> Morning
[12:40] <jedijf> yep
[13:16] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else
[13:42] <JonathanD> hi
[13:43] <pvl1> anyone have a good experience with mobility graphics
[13:47] <JonathanD> I drew a picture while on a train.
[13:49] <ChinnoDog> I could probably draw a wheelchair if I tried.
[13:55] <pvl1> it counts
[13:55] <pvl1> means it works
[13:59] <ChinnoDog> I have no idea what we are talking about.
[14:04] <pvl1> mobility graphics is aka switchable graphics. my laptop has a Radeon but I can tell it to use intel hd integrated when on battery
[14:06] <waltman> You mean the type of laptops with both on-board and external GPUs?
[14:11] <JonathanD> pvl1: mine has that, but I don't know how to use it under linux.
[14:12] <JonathanD> or even if I can.
[14:12] <JonathanD> On windows it was possible to tell each application which driver to use.
[14:16] <ChinnoDog> I had that on my T400 but I couldn't get it working right under Ubuntu.
[14:16] <ChinnoDog> Windows 8 has special handling for multiple graphics card so on this laptop everything runs with the Intel adapter by default unless I tell it to use the nVidia
[14:17] <ChinnoDog> I only use nVidia for Sketchup and games though
[14:36] <pvl1> yes waltman
[14:41] <pvl1> JonathanD ChinnoDog I got it working, but the actual driver is complete trash. ati cannot develop a decent diver
[14:44] <pvl1> technically they don't support it.u gotta get manufacturers drivers
[14:45] <pvl1> which hp failed on. so I can't blame amd
[14:45] <pvl1> it's just disappointing. 2gb card, keeps crashing
[14:46] <MutantTurkey> ChinnoDog: yeah that's annoying!
[14:46] <MutantTurkey> can you manually disable on card at least?
[14:51] <ChinnoDog> On T400? I could only enable/disable cards in the BIOS.
[14:52] <ChinnoDog> I left the ATI card permanently enabled on the T400 when I was doing that.
[15:18] <pvl1> that's the first main way.the next is that amdccle has the stretchable graphics setting when in bios it's manual rather than automatic
[16:07] <ChinnoDog> My server hung. What log do I check to see what happened?
[16:08] <ChinnoDog> The console was unresponsive
[16:09] <JonathanD> all of them.
[16:09] <ChinnoDog> :-\
[16:31] <ChinnoDog> idk what is wrong with weechat but I think it is fixed
[16:32] <ChinnoDog> Are there any logs automatically archived on system boot that would have the last events from before the server went down?
[16:38] <pvl1> syslog?
[16:38] <pvl1> kernel maybe debug
[16:39] <pvl1> r u sure it wasn't network problem
[16:42] <ChinnoDog> Not entirely but restarting the server from the control panel fixed it.
[16:46] <pvl1> Do u think you can recreate
[16:48] <ChinnoDog> No. I don't know what caused it and all I was doing was sitting on IRC.
[16:56] <ChinnoDog> ugh. Now my audio on my laptop is broken. This is going to be one of those days that nothing works.
[17:05] <jedijf> it's that time of year
[17:09] <ChinnoDog> :-(
[17:10] <ChinnoDog> Dell system update killed my sound because it wanted to install a new driver
[17:11] <ChinnoDog> So I let it. It also installed new firmware and made Bitlocker refuse to unlock my hard drive without the full decryption key instead of just the pin. Naughty.
[18:04] <pvl1> I just use truecrypt and a thumb drive
[18:41] <ChinnoDog> I store the decryption key in the TPM instead of using a thumb drive but hardware changes will invalidate it. That includes new versions of firmware.
[19:45] <pvl1> tpm?
[19:47] <JonathanD> trusted privacy module
[20:14] <ChinnoDog> platform
[20:17] <jedijf> who do i trust
[21:02] <pvl1> haven't heard of it
[21:03] <ChinnoDog> If you have a modern computer you probably have one.
[21:05] <ChinnoDog> Truecrypt doesn't use it though.