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 @sjeanr [Could someone tell me where the note app stores it's data. I want to use synchth …], The folder should be in `/Home/.local/share/com.ubuntu.reminders` You can add an Evernote account via System Settings in order to sync the core Notes app's notes with other devices.  Or the "Jotit Cloud Notes" allows syncing notes with a NextC
[02:19] <ubptgbot> loud server.
 Is there a method to manually install the software? any tutorial for nexus 5?
 @karlin5233 [Is there a method to manually install the software? any tutorial for nexus 5?], Using the UBports installer is the best way to install UT.  https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/hammerhead/
 @sjeanr [Could someone tell me where the note app stores it's data. I want to use synchth …], [Edit] The folder should be in `/Home/.local/share/com.ubuntu.reminders` You can add an Evernote account via System Settings in order to sync the core Notes app's notes with other devices.  Or the "Jotit Cloud Notes" app in the OpenStore allow
[02:22] <ubptgbot> s syncing notes with a NextCloud server.
 @TotalSonic did you have a asteroidos watch with vollaphone
 @mateosalta [@TotalSonic did you have a asteroidos watch with vollaphone], Yes - both  LG G Watch R and LG G Watch Urbane are working well with Volla via the Telescope app.  Asteroid OS is basic but works pretty smoothly with UT.  I have a beta click of Telescope the developer of it forward me, which includes Weather app syncing (a lit
[02:44] <ubptgbot> tle clunky to get that synced still, but once you get it via some multiple reconnecting it works as well).
 i have the urbane, i'm connecting via the system bluetooth, but the app still says to connect
 @mateosalta [i have the urbane, i'm connecting via the system bluetooth, but the app still sa …], I had that problem at first too - until I flashed an Android Wear system image for it linked on the Asteroid OS page, and then reflashed Asteroid OS onto it.
 ah
 ok
 flash to m first
 I can send you those images
 they have them on the page still
 @mateosalta [they have them on the page still], USE these ones -> … Recovery: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767128807 … Boot: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120699462 … System: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298922646
 @mateosalta [they have them on the page still], and then  … fastboot flash boot boot.img … fastboot flash system system.img … fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
 After that reinstall Asteroid OS and I think it should be good to go
 the setup on the android wear os was not fun, and it made it connect and use google play even to just click the settings
 @mateosalta [the setup on the android wear os was not fun, and it made it connect and use goo …], Yeah, total bs that Google and LG wouldn't even allow the watch to run in a standalone mode - Asteroid OS at least allows you to do that.
 so much nicer :)
 @mateosalta [the setup on the android wear os was not fun, and it made it connect and use goo …], Actually if you hold the power button for a bit "Settings" will appear on Android Wear
 ah
 good to know
 Yeah, it helps so you can get to developer mode without having to connect to Google first.
 yeah i have to go purge my standby phone now
 @mateosalta [they have them on the page still], [Edit] and then  … `fastboot flash boot boot.img` … `fastboot flash system system.img` … `fastboot flash recovery recovery.img`
 @TotalSonic [The folder should be in /Home/.local/share/com.ubuntu.reminders You can add an E …], wait the jotit app in the store is able to sync with nextcloud?
 @Fuseteam [wait the jotit app in the store is able to sync with nextcloud?], Yup, it's a NextCloud Notes client basically
 es
 [Edit] yes
 interesting
 Personally I think the core Notes app should add the option to sync via NextCloud as well (especially given that Evernote is a commercial and semi-proprietary, and only offers keeping it synced between a few devices at once in their free service)
 wait "yes" and edited? did you say no at first kugi hehehehe
 he said "es" - missed a y in there :P
 @TotalSonic [Personally I think the core Notes app should add the option to sync via NextClou …], i mean i agree but the maintainer is working on other issues iirc
 depending on how jotit does it, that could be used as a base to get the core notes app to do it too
 @Fuseteam [i mean i agree but the maintainer is working on other issues iirc], Yup, it's one thing to ask for these things, but if one can not code it, then patience is definitely a virtue
 @TotalSonic [Yup, it's one thing to ask for these things, but if one can not code it, then pa …], certainly, well that or learn to code
 @Fuseteam [depending on how jotit does it, that could be used as a base to get the core not …], Hopefuly it is that easy.  I have a feeling there is probably some kind of hitch
 @TotalSonic [Yup, it's one thing to ask for these things, but if one can not code it, then pa …], [Edit] certainly, well that or learn to code :P
 well i suppose it also depends on how the core notes app saves the notes
 @Fuseteam [wait "yes" and edited? did you say no at first kugi hehehehe], my cheap stupid keyboard's fault 😆
 i mean nextcloud is basically webdav + a folder structure afaict
 @Javacookies [my cheap stupid keyboard's fault 😆], lmao get flicking 😂
 that came out wrong lmao
 @Fuseteam [certainly, well that or learn to code :P], Yup.  On my list of things to try and do at least a little bit eventually.  So many things to learn, and  so many hours needed to do the things I already know how to do.
 LOL, I can't flick on a physical keyboard 😆
 @Javacookies [LOL, I can't flick on a physical keyboard 😆], Now, if you could make a physical flick keyboard - that would be cool.
 if the format of evernote and nextcloud notes are the same, I guess it'll be a bit easier to do
 @Javacookies [LOL, I can't flick on a physical keyboard 😆], true that 😂
 @Javacookies [if the format of evernote and nextcloud notes are the same, I guess it'll be a b …], yeah i think that's the struggle point, they are likely not the same
 @TotalSonic [Now, if you could make a physical flick keyboard - that would be cool.], physical keyboards should really have OSK features by now 😂
 @TotalSonic [Now, if you could make a physical flick keyboard - that would be cool.], lmao that'd be fun
 @Javacookies [physical keyboards should really have OSK features by now 😂], agreed, and visa versa
 but really flick is made for a 5 inch touchscreen
 qwerty, not so much lol
 @Fuseteam [lmao that'd be fun], It would be worth making a clunky prototype just for the youtube views.
 [Edit] but really flick is made for a <= 5 inch touchscreen
 @TotalSonic [It would be worth making a clunky prototype just for the youtube views.], like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LI1PysAlkU
 @TotalSonic [It would be worth making a clunky prototype just for the youtube views.], [Edit] lmao, like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LI1PysAlkU
 (it has english subs btw)
 cricket be chirping
 i'll show myself out 😂
 @TotalSonic [The folder should be in /Home/.local/share/com.ubuntu.reminders You can add an E …], Thank you! You got me interested in Nextcloud. I will give it a try.
 @TotalSonic [Personally I think the core Notes app should add the option to sync via NextClou …], Agree! That is one of my goals with UT.
 developers developers developers developers devel—
 @Fuseteam [lmao, like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LI1PysAlkU], darn it, someone beat me to the idea ;)
 @TotalSonic [darn it, someone beat me to the idea ;)], btw look at the date :p
 @Fuseteam [btw look at the date :p], I'm surprised it wasn't tried even earlier than 5 years ago.  It actually is very cool, I could see this being useful for lots of other interfacing actually
 look closer at the date and consider japan time :p
 @Fuseteam [look closer at the date and consider japan time :p], heehee - April Fools Day - of course.
 yupp :p
 I just got past the first 30 seconds, to where it got way sillier, lol
 lmao
 but yeah i agree it is useful as an interface tbh
 i mean qertyu exists now, almost :p
 I still think someone should make an IRL DIY version of this.
 same hehe ᕙ≧ڡ≦
[08:31] <ubptgbot> Cruz Bass was added by: Cruz Bass
[08:49] <ubptgbot> <Cruz Bass> looook - https://bit.ly/3dFCrbD … EllonMussk Crazy!!!!
 hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/anbox-on-ut  … I would agree to give money but I would like more details: … - will the changes be pushed in upstream Anbox? (So they are available in all linux distributions) Are Anbox devs aware of that campaign? … - what are the target dates for the work? Ho
[09:43] <ubptgbot> w is it prioritized? … - where can we follow the work done? … It would be awesome to have the answers to those question on the campaign page
[09:47] <ubptgbot> <Edwin Hao> https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/mlfzio/jdekde_first_rice_using_jingos_beta_darker_than/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
 @flaburgan [hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/an …], Hi Fla, the mean of the fixes are indeed to be pushed as upstream, our dev who will work on Anbox know the campagn, we follow a step by step target this mean into the first place to get it stable and then move on... I post always updates on
[10:05] <ubptgbot>  the campaign when you have donate you get this update via email...
 @flaburgan [hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/an …], [Edit] Hi Fla, the mean of the fixes are indeed to be pushed as upstream, our dev who will work on Anbox know the campaign, we follow a step by step target this mean into the first place to get it stable and then move on... I post always up
[10:05] <ubptgbot> dates on the campaign when you have donate you get this update via email...
 @flaburgan [hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/an …], [Edit] Hi Fla, the mean of the fixes are indeed to be pushed as upstream, our dev who will work on Anbox know the campaign, we follow a step by step target this mean into the first place to get it more stable and then move on... I post alwa
[10:06] <ubptgbot> ys updates on the campaign when you have donate you get this update via email...
[10:07] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> @flaburgan [hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/an …], Hi Fla, … - will the changes be pushed in upstream Anbox? (So they are available in all linux distributions) Are Anbox devs aware of that campaign?  I will let Rudi Timmermans answering. Normally it could be potentially benefit to other
[10:07] <ubptgbot> mobile distros as well, but I'm not enough skilled to answer this... … - what are the target dates for the work? How is it prioritized? This will 100% depends of the collected amount. The more we get, the best we can do. Currently, the developer has been hired, her name is Alexandra (from Moscow), she's experimented on Android in Opensources OS as
[10:07] <ubptgbot> she worked several years on Sailfish OS. She well knows reverse engineering, C++, Android ecosystem, opensource projects, Java, etc... As by now she's ready to start to work as soon as she will receive her Vollaphone (that has been sent recently) … - where can we follow the work done? We add updates on the campaign website weekly.  … Hope I could g
[10:07] <ubptgbot> ive you useful informations.
 @flaburgan [hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/an …], [Edit] Hi Fla, the mean of the fixes are indeed to be pushed as upstream. look for the rest on Steve his reply
 @flaburgan [hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/an …], [Edit] Hi Fla, the mean of the fixes are indeed to be pushed as upstream on the ut anbox repo. look for the rest on Steve his reply
 @flaburgan [hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/an …], Please keep in mind that the Upstream Anbox project is not fully compatible with what we need so probably some stuff cannot go there. Its unfortunately again on the brink of a fork. But thats mostly because upstream Anbox maintenance continued
[10:11] <ubptgbot>  too much into Desktop already.
 @Flohack [Please keep in mind that the Upstream Anbox project is not fully compatible with …], Indeed Florian, to make it clear that's what i have been say upstream on the ut anbox repo..
 hm, thanks for your answers. I'm going to support that work anyway, but to see effort to push it on "real" upstream would be very welcomed.
 also, about "follow the work done" I was talking about repositories and code, not news ;)
 I really trust you this isn't vaporware, but still I think that adding links to the repository, the developer profile etc would help
 @flaburgan [also, about "follow the work done" I was talking about repositories and code, no …], Yes we will post also on the updates what she have done already and what's been done tested etc...
 @flaburgan [I really trust you this isn't vaporware, but still I think that adding links to …], About poste her devlopers profile i need to ask that first i need to recepkt her privacy also, as she is on payed freelance website's so you can not just share her profile.
 @flaburgan [I really trust you this isn't vaporware, but still I think that adding links to …], [Edit] About post her developers profile i need to ask that first i need to recepkt her privacy also, as she is on payed freelance website's so you can not just share her profile.
 @flaburgan [I really trust you this isn't vaporware, but still I think that adding links to …], [Edit] About post her developers profile i need to ask that first i need to recept her privacy also, as she is on payed freelance website's so you can not just share her profile.
 yes obviously
 @Edwin Hao [https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/mlfzio/jdekde_first_rice_using_jingos …], I think discussions of JingOS should go to the Overflow group, and not here.
 @Edwin Hao [https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/mlfzio/jdekde_first_rice_using_jingos …], You guys are becoming anoying with pushing your OS to an UT community... What do you hope to achieve? Converting some UT users to use your OS ? How did your OS contributed to the UT development?
 @TotalSonic [I think discussions of JingOS should go to the Overflow group, and not here.], Preferably to its own group
 I want to hear from people who use UBports with GSI? How does it perform compared to non-gsi one?
 [Edit] I want to hear from people who use UBports with GSI. How does it perform compared to non-gsi one?
[13:22] <ubptgbot> Zack83r was added by: Zack83r
 @C0n57an71n [You guys are becoming anoying with pushing your OS to an UT community... What do …], It is impolite, certainly
[15:16] <ubptgbot> Teodoro Mclaughlin was added by: Teodoro Mclaughlin
 @Stereofont [It is impolite, certainly], Who, me?
[15:41] <ubptgbot> <Teodoro Mclaughlin> [https://twitter.com/3ellonmuskss/status/137979320890144225](https://shorl.com/trabridrovevili) … Good day guyssss! Its luckyyy time!!!
 @C0n57an71n [Who, me?], i think he meant the jing os people
 not sure if they're the marketing team or just communiy
 [Edit] not sure if they're the marketing team or just community
 Well, nobody has nothing against other OS. It's enough to look at the collaboration between UBports and PosmarketOS, Manjaro, or Pine64, Volla and so on...
 @C0n57an71n [Well, nobody has nothing against other OS. It's enough to look at the collaborat …], advertising in our group doesnt belong
 JingOS is Qt and Ubuntu based, at least that's what they're saying
 it almost seems like an ad...
 @HengYeDev [it almost seems like an ad...], It's more like a spam, if you ask me.
 very true
 Does somebody even knowvwho's behind JingOS?
 @C0n57an71n [Does somebody even knowvwho's behind JingOS?], chinese entrepreneurs
 i chatted with the ceo once
 well no point staying off topic by discussing it here :)
 to overflow then?
 @dohbee [well no point staying off topic by discussing it here :)], True.
 Sure, to the overflow tank =))))
 time to flow over XD
 [Edit] time to flow over to overflow XD
 Im on mi a2 can i use lineage os 16 as bace rom i tried with stok a9 rom it causing problem in fastboot
 Anyone help me
 uh what? this is the group for ubuntu touch, which is not a rom
 what are you asking?
 @D4R1IN9 [Im on mi a2 can i use lineage os 16 as bace rom i tried with stok a9 rom it caus …], @shoukolab
 @Fuseteam [uh what? this is the group for ubuntu touch, which is not a rom], Is this a bot?
 @D4R1IN9 [Anyone help me], make sure you are not having jdi panel and also, flash this https://github.com/ubports-xiaomi-sdm660/artifacts/releases/download/20201212/ubuntu_touch_jasmine_V<IP_ADDRESS>.PDIMIFJ_9.0.tar.xz  and update via settings>system
 @D4R1IN9 [Is this a bot?], lel no
 @gibcheesepuffs [lel no], 😳
 @gibcheesepuffs [lel no], Did i asked something wrong?
 @D4R1IN9 [Im on mi a2 can i use lineage os 16 as bace rom i tried with stok a9 rom it caus …], Iin this message
 @D4R1IN9 [Im on mi a2 can i use lineage os 16 as bace rom i tried with stok a9 rom it caus …], [Edit] In this message
 @D4R1IN9 [In this message], No, but this group focuses in Ubuntu Touch operative system in general, for questions about UT in a specific device is better to ask in the forum post of that device because is more likely to find a correct answer there. Here we have very different devices running UT.
 @LGeek [No, but this group focuses in Ubuntu Touch operative system in general, for ques …], Oh i c them im sorry
 🙏
 @D4R1IN9 [Is this a bot?], oh fun a bot, where, where?
 @Fuseteam [oh fun a bot, where, where?], I thought u r 😅 because u reacted on rom word
 @D4R1IN9 [I thought u r 😅 because u reacted on rom word], lol 😂
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/IDGSLx0I.mp4
 maybe we should make one react on the word "ubports" x'D
 actually no that's a bad idea
 @wellactuallybot
 lol looks like its free
 @Flohack [Soon after they started to fight with each other about was comes after the new n …], Sorry, but I don't remember any fighting...I remember only there was a lack of developers=>commit=>hype.
 i think they just didn't have any idea of the scope of things, but simply wanted unity8 to keep existing
 @Flohack [We let them do, its a free world, whatever, everybody should have their chance. …], Also I don't understand who is "we" and your sentence let suppose there was an ubpprt decision to "let" another project to play with unity8...that is not true. Ubports state that was only interested in the phone ux so yunit tried to maintain the d
[18:32] <ubptgbot> evelopment in the desk sector and both project agreed to keep the project mergeable...then due to a lack of interest (caused probably bythe difficulties to obtain a working solution on desk in the medium/short time) yunit was abandoned and ubports open to the possibility to develop unity8 also for the desk
 @dohbee [i think they just didn't have any idea of the scope of things, but simply wanted …], That would be easy...the problem was that also a bootable unity8 was not very usable on desk...your project, obtained removing all the incomplete/not needed in desk stuff was more advanced in my opinion
 @Aury88 [Also I don't understand who is "we" and your sentence let suppose there was an u …], i think the "we let them do" was more directly about the fact that it's all open source and anyone can take and do whatever they want with it
 @Flohack [We let them do, its a free world, whatever, everybody should have their chance. …], [Edit] Also I don't understand who is "we" and your sentence let suppose there was an ubpprt decision to "let" another project to play with unity8...that is not true. Ubports stated that was only interested in the phone ux so yunit tried to mainta
[18:35] <ubptgbot> in the development in the desk sector and both project agreed to keep the project mergeable...then due to a lack of interest (caused probably bythe difficulties to obtain a working solution on desk in the medium/short time) yunit was abandoned and ubports opened to the possibility to develop unity8 also for the desk
 the development of lomiri is still focused on the convergence goal
 which means that it isn't about explicitly making things only usable on the phone
 it's just that things are currently only more usable on the phone, becuase that's where the state of things was when canonical dropped development of it. and there haven't been enough resources yet to improve beyond that much
 So we don't let...they take the code and tried to develop it...as in any opensource project
 wait were you involved in that project aurelio?
 [Edit] wait were you involved in the yunit project aurelio?
 [Edit] wait were you involved in the yunit project, aurelio?
 just curious i suppose
 @Aury88 [So we don't let...they take the code and tried to develop it...as in any opensou …], well we license new code in a way that allows them to do that, so yes "we let"
 @dohbee [it's just that things are currently only more usable on the phone, becuase that' …], I know that and also I think is better this way. Is better to develop a convergent ux on the system with more difficulties (due to lower resorce,screen dimension, use of (fat) finger in tini space ...).
 @dohbee [it's just that things are currently only more usable on the phone, becuase that' …], [Edit] I know that and also I think is better this way. Is better to develop a convergent ux on the system with more difficulties (due to lower resorce,screen dimension, use of (fat) finger in tiny space ...).
 anyway, no need for nitpicking words like that when we all aren't native english speakers i think :)
 flo isn't and the person that was basically trying to merge two ubuntu unity and ubports isn't either :)
 indeed
 Yes,you are right. I only think putting all the event in that words make the impression we were a litigious community, against/in contrast with ubports  that died due to a name/logo discussion...
 i guess i got my answer
 btw i think flo was also a bit disappointed at the time he wrote that, iirc he posted on the ubuntu unity forums about collaborating, i am not sure what came out of that
 things were weird and communication was hard then
 several small groups wanting to do similar but different things
 i think ubuntu unity is in a similar spot rigt now
 @dohbee [well we license new code in a way that allows them to do that, so yes "we let"], And they would licenced their code to "let ubport use that" in reality we both keep the opensouce principle put by canonical
 and the UU stuff is in a similar place
 [Edit] i think ubuntu unity is in a similar spot right now
 the fact is Lomiri and Unity7 are wildly different beasts
 i wonder if we can somehow improve communication between the two
 @dohbee [the fact is Lomiri and Unity7 are wildly different beasts], well yeah, but iirc the dev from uu was trying to compile lomiri a while ago and asked for some help, but question was lost in the crowd
 i guess the problem is that lomiri isn't a single thing, where as unity7 pretty much is
 @Fuseteam [btw i think flo was also a bit disappointed at the time he wrote that, iirc he p …], Yes. I don't know if  that was done. Yunit was ahead in the translation process so I dowload all the po and give them to flo but probably unity8 (side ubports) was already to much different to use them.
 @Aury88 [Yes. I don't know if  that was done. Yunit was ahead in the translation process …], oh i'm not sure about that, i meant flo has reached out to the ubuntu unity community in the past
 @Aury88 [Yes. I don't know if  that was done. Yunit was ahead in the translation process …], [Edit] oh i'm not sure about that, i meant flo has reached out to the ubuntu unity community a few months ago
 not sure if he got something tangible out of that, and such he may have been disappointed when their graphics designer was asking wether ubports wants to use their logo
 [Edit] not sure if he got something tangible out of that, and such he may have been disappointed when their graphics designer was asking whether ubports wants to use their logo
 @dohbee [i guess the problem is that lomiri isn't a single thing, where as unity7 pretty …], yeah and documentation on how to actually build and test is still lacking
 @Aury88 [Yes. I don't know if  that was done. Yunit was ahead in the translation process …], Oh how could I forget the translations....
 @Fuseteam [wait were you involved in the yunit project, aurelio?], Yes, I was  but only contributed in italian translation if I remember correctly. And probably was the last to leave the ship given the fact that I gave the zip containing all the po to flo/ubports 😅
 @Aury88 [Yes, I was  but only contributed in italian translation if I remember correctly. …], oh cool, tis nice to have you here
 Don´t take me wrong at its also not personal, but I still have the impression today that it broke all over a logo and name discussion. Since if it would have been otherwise, if you would have faced technical difficulties, wouldnt you probably have asked for help, or for collaborating on things? Yes I was disappointed back then since we we
[18:55] <ubptgbot> re left with a much wider codebase than planned, and still today we are struggling to satisfy all wishes. Having to also maintain the now Lomiri was not the gift I would want to have for Christmas, so to say
 And "let them play" was not literally meant ofc
 @Fuseteam [oh i'm not sure about that, i meant flo has reached out to the ubuntu unity comm …], I was refering to the yunit community not the ubuntu unity community 🤣.
 @Flohack [Don´t take me wrong at its also not personal, but I still have the impression to …], well like rodney says communicating (between ubports and yunit) was hard, and tbh it is hard right now between ubuntu unity and ubports
 @Fuseteam [oh cool, tis nice to have you here], Nah...i'm pretty useless 🤣
 @Aury88 [I was refering to the yunit community not the ubuntu unity community 🤣.], that's why i clarified xD
 @Flohack [Don´t take me wrong at its also not personal, but I still have the impression to …], [Edit] well like rodney says communicating (between ubports and yunit) was hard, and tbh it is hard right now between ubuntu unity and ubports. the main ubuntu unity dev did ask for help in the development channel but technically never got an a
[18:58] <ubptgbot> nswer
 @Flohack [Don´t take me wrong at its also not personal, but I still have the impression to …], [Edit] well like rodney says communicating (between ubports and yunit) was hard, and tbh it is hard right now between ubuntu unity and ubports. the main ubuntu unity dev did ask for help in the development channel but  never got an answer
 @Aury88 [Nah...i'm pretty useless 🤣], wouldn't say that—
 @Fuseteam [well like rodney says communicating (between ubports and yunit) was hard, and tb …], well that's not exactly true. he said he had a problem trying to build unity8, and mardy immediately replied, but Rudra never followed up with requested terminal output, at least in the channel
 @Flohack [Don´t take me wrong at its also not personal, but I still have the impression to …], We had faced the tecnical difficulties...and not having a single developer other than the yunit  founder the result was inevitable. I prefer in this way. My fear was that having two project would have make all difficult and waste developers resou
[19:01] <ubptgbot> rce...imho it is way better with all the energy put in the smartphone side and then try to extend to desk
 @dohbee [well that's not exactly true. he said he had a problem trying to build unity8, a …], if memory serves it wasn't immediately, perhaps we are thinking of different occasions?
 @Fuseteam [if memory serves it wasn't immediately, perhaps we are thinking of different occ …], well i literally just went to the lomiri group and searched for posts from him, so…
 is there a way to search for posts by a specific someone?
 oh there is
 hmm
 @dohbee [well i literally just went to the lomiri group and searched for posts from him, …], the one i was thinking about was on the 24th of december in the devel group
 so yes different occasions
 anyway, yes, there isn't a single repo or script to build all the necessary dependencies and it can be not obvious what is needed, nor do we have a document on how to build the whole stack, unfortunately
 @C0n57an71n [Who, me?], No. I mean them
 @dohbee [anyway, yes, there isn't a single repo or script to build all the necessary depe …], yeah true
[19:10] <ubptgbot> secutron was added by: secutron
 @Aury88 [We had faced the tecnical difficulties...and not having a single developer other …], The broken logo and name discussion was the only possible for non tecnical user (other than translating)  but that was not the reason of the project failure....it's like saying that the titanic sank because of the orchestra only because the orches
[19:13] <ubptgbot> tra was the last thing on the ship that was heard before it disappeared 😕 our iceberg was that there was only a single developer
 @Aury88 [We had faced the tecnical difficulties...and not having a single developer other …], [Edit] The broken logo and name discussion was the only possible for non tecnical user (other than translating)  but that was not the reason of the project failure....it's like saying that the titanic sank because of the orchestra only because the
[19:14] <ubptgbot>  orchestra was the last thing on the ship that was heard before it disappeared 😕  … our iceberg was that there was only a single developer
 hmm yeah tis really similar to the situation ubuntu unity is in hmmmmm
 @Aury88 [We had faced the tecnical difficulties...and not having a single developer other …], [Edit] The logo and name discussion was the only possible for non tecnical user (other than translating)  but that was not the reason of the project failure....it's like saying that the titanic sank because of the orchestra only because the orches
[19:18] <ubptgbot> tra was the last thing on the ship that was heard before it disappeared 😕  … our iceberg was that there was only a single developer
 that why I stopped to read the telegram group...and yes, there is to much discussion about wallpaper and logos for my taste too 😂
 [Edit] that why I stopped reading carefully the telegram group...I search only the Rudra posts ....and yes, there is to much discussion about wallpaper and logos for my taste too 😂
 Wow, nice insights! Good to be here, witnessing history as it unfolds! 📽 Thank you!
 @Fuseteam [hmm yeah tis really similar to the situation ubuntu unity is in hmmmmm], Ps: we have to keep in mind that in ubuntu unity  rudra is "only" making a distro. Unity is maintained by another community and the distro uses  only already ported/compatible packages. That situation is different from the one in yunit and need less effort
[20:03] <ubptgbot> than an unstable, incomplete project that need heavy development. So rudra can probably keep maintain uu without any help if unity7 maintain its compatibility.
 bringing unity7 to newer tech like wayland, is unlikely though
 old unity is a fork of compiz after all
 Yes, unity7 is propably a deadend. And every half year the list of unsupported (by ubuntu) but needed (for unity/compiz)package to maintain/port will be wider and harder.
 Hi all, could you please tell me if there are any firewalls for UT? Is it possible to install an opensnitch firewall on UT?
 There is no firewall app as such for Ubuntu Touch. You could see what your device is communicating to by learning the `netstat` command.
 @ [Since the software which runs on baseband processors is usually proprietary, it …], Backdoor through a radio modem?
 @UniversalSuperBox [There is no firewall app as such for Ubuntu Touch. You could see what your devic …], netstat is just information. …  I allow it separately for each application.
 Ubuntu Touch will not currently meet your needs
 @UniversalSuperBox [Ubuntu Touch will not currently meet your needs], Is it possible to install an application from a .deb package built under aarch64/arm64?
 What would you like to install?
 i think ufw is installed but perhaps not active
 @UniversalSuperBox [What would you like to install?], https://github.com/evilsocket/opensnitch/wiki/Cross-compilation
 You might be able to install this. However, it would require you to make the root filesystem read-write, it would need to be reinstalled on every update of Ubuntu Touch, and it may not work anyway.
 Some info from Volla regarding the recent security breach of Gigaset.  tldr: Volla Phone users, using both Ubuntu Touch and Volla OS are not effected.
 Fwd from m_aurel: Dear Community, … Some media have written about malware on devices from our supplier Gigaset. We have of course followed up on these reports and assessed the situation with our supplier.  … The Volla Phone is not affected for several reasons: … 1.  … Only older models from Gigaset are affected.  … 2.  … it is not a ha
[21:03] <ubptgbot> rdware (chipset) security vulnerability … 3.  … The Volla Phone uses a different operating system with a different code base. … 4.  … The Volla Phone uses a standalone, independent OTA server. … Thank you for the attentive users who brought the case to our attention. … We hope you enjoy using the Volla Phone. Mine is already running the Android 10
[21:03] <ubptgbot> base :-) Soon there will be an update - via our OTA server. … Enjoy the day!
 (Photo, 384x768) https://irc.ubports.com/uINL4wWW.png on PureOS
 (Photo, 384x768) https://irc.ubports.com/CRLbaUJq.png on PureOS - https://puri.sm/posts/snitching-on-phones-that-snitch-on-you/
 I respect that it works on other platforms. It may not work on Ubuntu Touch.
 Firefox-esr 78.7 is working well (although slow, due to no hardware acceleration) in Libertine container on my Volla Phone.
 [Edit] Some info from Volla regarding the recent security breach of Gigaset.  tldr: Volla Phone users, using both Ubuntu Touch and Volla OS are not effected. ->
[21:06] <ubptgbot> Scotty Clemons was added by: Scotty Clemons
 whoops - just realized they were asking about a different app.
 @UniversalSuperBox [I respect that it works on other platforms. It may not work on Ubuntu Touch.], Thx
 @TotalSonic [<reply to media>], Good
 @Aury88 [Ps: we have to keep in mind that in ubuntu unity  rudra is "only" making a distr …], Actually rudra is part of the unity maintainer team, but i'm aware not much is acually done in the background. He is appearently working on "unityX", before that effort, i was hoping to direct that enthusiasm towards lomiri
 @Fuseteam [Actually rudra is part of the unity maintainer team, but i'm aware not much is a …], I need to get involved how can I start ?
 @hwpplayer1 [I need to get involved how can I start ?], Involved in lomiri?
[21:19] <ubptgbot> TheOldNewGuy was added by: TheOldNewGuy
 @Fuseteam [Involved in lomiri?], Yes GUI Environment
 @dohbee [i think ufw is installed but perhaps not active], ufw seems to work with iptables, but it does not control applications.
 @hwpplayer1 [Yes GUI Environment], I think you are already in the right places for that, are you in the lomiri group?
 Hi
 Welcome
 @Fuseteam [I think you are already in the right places for that, are you in the lomiri grou …], I am not sure
 @hwpplayer1 [I am not sure], Lemme check the name
 @Fuseteam [Lemme check the name], 👍
 👍
 might want to try porting Halium to the Galaxy A51 once i get one xd
 @TheOldNewGuy [might want to try porting Halium to the Galaxy A51 once i get one xd], Cool have you seen the halium docs?
 @TheOldNewGuy [might want to try porting Halium to the Galaxy A51 once i get one xd], [Edit] Cool, have you seen the halium docs?
[21:29] <ubptgbot> <Scotty Clemons> [https://www.tesla.com](https://bit.ly/3tc36TO) … Super day! EIIon Musk open cryypto-giveaawayy!!!!
[23:44] <ubptgbot> ea3icn was added by: ea3icn


[19:00] <gsilvapt> Howdy. Should we start the LoCo Council meeting?
[19:58] <gsilvapt> Meh, for some reason I thought this should start at 8pm :)
[19:58] <gsilvapt> Timezones and me... argh
[19:59] <nhaines> I made sure to use timeandate.com just in case.  :)
[19:59] <nhaines> Which is good because I was wrong.
[19:59] <gsilvapt> Yeas, my bad for not using that tool and be always on the wrong time :)
[19:59] <nhaines> Well, I'm not sure I would've bothered if not for the handy link!
[20:00] <kenvandine> hey
[20:01] <gsilvapt> Right. So, how many of us are around? Letozaf_ is here, nhaines, gsilvapt, kenvandine and kyrofa ?
[20:02] <nhaines> _o/
[20:04] <gsilvapt> #startmeeting loco_council
[20:04] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Oct 14 20:04:12 2019 UTC.  The chair is gsilvapt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[20:04] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[20:04] <gsilvapt> #chair gsilvapt
[20:04] <meetingology> Current chairs: gsilvapt
[20:05] <gsilvapt> #meetingbot topic AZLoco Revalidation:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Re-VerificationApplication2019
[20:05] <gsilvapt> #meetingtopic AZLoco revalidation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Re-VerificationApplication2019
[20:05] <kenvandine> Hello everyone
[20:05] <gsilvapt> oopsie, I believe that was not the command I wanted :D
[20:05] <Letozaf_> o/
[20:05] <gsilvapt> #topic AZLoco Revalidation. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Re-VerificationApplication2019
[20:06] <gsilvapt> Hello everyone. We are gathered today to take care of our good friends from the AZ LoCo. Anyone here to represent them?
[20:06] <kenvandine> Seems they have been having regular meetings this year, I did a spot check of their mailing lists
[20:07] <gsilvapt> Since we requested them, they seem to be taking a bit more care with their wikis and such
[20:07] <kenvandine> yeah
[20:08] <gsilvapt> Seems there is no one around here from their LoCo
[20:08] <nhaines> It looks like they're reaching out to LUGs, and I know they're active there.  They help California out with SCALE most years.
[20:09] <Letozaf_> It seems a very active team
[20:10] <gsilvapt> Seems so, yes. They are improving a lot. Last time, if I recall correctly, we had some doubts about them but they seem on spot now
[20:11] <nhaines> It looks like they solidly addressed the documentation issue we had.
[20:11] <Letozaf_> they have put pictures here of the events: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/TeamInstallfests
[20:11] <kenvandine> i'm not seeing any of the people involved in the meeting
[20:11] <nhaines> I wonder if they had a timezone misidentification.
[20:12] <gsilvapt> If I also recall correctly, they didn't have anyone representing them as well last time :D
[20:12] <kenvandine> i like what i'm seeing though
[20:12] <nhaines> Well, I like what I see, anyway.
[20:13] <nhaines> Usually we create a private bug on Launchpad to handle any questions offline, but I don't think I have any questions for them.
[20:13] <kenvandine> i don't
[20:13] <Letozaf_> they seem ok also for me
[20:13] <kenvandine> shall we vote?
[20:13] <gsilvapt> yes, lets vote then
[20:13] <Letozaf_> yes
[20:13] <nhaines> I vote we vote!
[20:13] <kenvandine> lol
[20:13] <kenvandine> +1
[20:13] <gsilvapt> #vote revalidate AZ?
[20:13] <meetingology> Please vote on: revalidate AZ?
[20:13] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:14] <Letozaf_> +1
[20:14] <meetingology> +1 received from Letozaf_
[20:14] <kenvandine> +1
[20:14] <meetingology> +1 received from kenvandine
[20:14] <nhaines> +1
[20:14] <meetingology> +1 received from nhaines
[20:14] <gsilvapt> Damn, forgot to add the attendees to the meeting -.-
[20:14] <gsilvapt> +1
[20:14] <meetingology> +1 received from gsilvapt
[20:14] <gsilvapt> kyrofa, only you missing, I believe
[20:14] <kenvandine> yeah, and i don't think he'll be here
[20:14] <gsilvapt> #voters kenvandine nhaines kyrofa Letozaf_
[20:14] <meetingology> Current voters: Letozaf_ kenvandine kyrofa nhaines
[20:14] <gsilvapt> #voters gsilvapt
[20:14] <meetingology> Current voters: Letozaf_ gsilvapt kenvandine kyrofa nhaines
[20:14] <gsilvapt> +1
[20:14] <meetingology> +1 received from gsilvapt
[20:14] <gsilvapt> +1
[20:14] <meetingology> +1 received from gsilvapt
[20:15] <Letozaf_> +1
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 received from Letozaf_
[20:15] <nhaines> +1
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 received from nhaines
[20:15] <gsilvapt> Ok, seems to be fine
[20:15] <kenvandine> +1
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 received from kenvandine
[20:15] <gsilvapt> The majority of the votes is +1 but I would still like to have his input on the record
[20:16] <nhaines> Well, we do have a quorum, at least.
[20:17] <gsilvapt> I'm giving a couple more moinutes to see if he gets around though
[20:20] <gsilvapt> Well, there goes 5 minutes. perhaps he got stuck somewhere
[20:20] <gsilvapt> I'm ending the vote so we can move on
[20:21] <gsilvapt> #endvote
[20:21] <meetingology> Voting ended on: revalidate AZ?
[20:21] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:21] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:21] <gsilvapt> #action clean loco wiki agenda
[20:21] <meetingology> ACTION: clean loco wiki agenda
[20:21] <gsilvapt> #action take care of AZ revalidation
[20:21] <meetingology> ACTION: take care of AZ revalidation
[20:21] <gsilvapt> Who wants to take care of which items?
[20:22] <nhaines> I can revalidate AZ
[20:22] <Letozaf_> I can clean the wiki
[20:22] <gsilvapt> I should've created the items with your nicknames. Dumb me.
[20:22] <gsilvapt> Thank you though
[20:23] <gsilvapt> Is there anything else to discuss?
[20:25] <nhaines> I don't think so.
[20:26] <gsilvapt> Alrighty then, I'm ending this meeting.
[20:26] <gsilvapt> thank you everyone for joining.
[20:26] <gsilvapt> We will need to take care of replacements for some of us in the council, right?
[20:26] <gsilvapt> Not sure if that should also be an action item or not
[20:27] <nhaines> That's technically the job of the Community Council.
[20:27] <Letozaf_> I have to leave now, eventually let me know about the replacements...
[20:27] <Letozaf_> o/
[20:27] <nhaines> Bye Letozaf_!
[20:27] <gsilvapt> nhaines, how do we escalate the problem?
[20:27] <Letozaf_> bye
[20:28] <gsilvapt> Bye, Letozaf_
[20:28] <gsilvapt> #endmeeting
[20:28] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Oct 14 20:28:03 2019 UTC.
[20:28] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-10-14-20.04.moin.txt
[20:28] <nhaines> gsilvapt: we'll just email them.
[20:28] <gsilvapt> Ok.sounds fair. Then we will take care of that in private.
[20:28] <gsilvapt> I'm off now as well. See you, thanks for coming o/
[20:29] <nhaines> _o/


[11:43]  * saqlain slaps bgardner around a bit with a large fishbot
[11:44] <saqlain> hey lindol
[11:45] <lindol> saqlain, hi :)
[11:45] <saqlain> I am new here can you help me plz.
[11:45] <lindol> okay :) May i help you?
[11:46] <saqlain> yeah I need help in ubuntu gnome :)
[11:48] <lindol> Let me know :)
[11:51] <saqlain> ok thanks lindol i have to go I will be back
[11:53] <saqlain> hi how to uplode your work plz tell me?
[11:56] <lindol> what do you mean?
[11:56] <lindol> Uploading?
[11:58] <saqlain> never mind thanks for your help
[14:04] <gaurang> hi
[14:08] <gaurang> how to use ubuntu
[14:12] <gaurang> exit
[14:19] <lindol> ...?
[16:44] <saqlain> someone help me. in which type of file I need to uplode my work plz tell
[16:46] <saqlain> someone help me. in which type of file I need to uplode my work plz tell
[18:53] <Wunerhacker> Hello, i just discover a bog with the ubuntu gnome 14.04 installer.
[18:54] <Wunerhacker> Hello, i just discover a bog with the ubuntu gnome 14.04 installer.
[18:55]  * Wunerhacker slaps TheNumb around a bit with a large fishbot
[18:55]  * Wunerhacker slaps _longines around a bit with a large fishbot
[18:55] <TheNumb> Wunerhacker: that's not nice.
[19:09] <octoquad> lol
[19:27] <RT> hi
[19:41] <octoquad> HI RT
[19:43] <TheNumb> TR IH
[20:50] <Guest76209> need /help
[20:50] <deved> for what?
[20:50] <deved> ?


[04:30] <bryceh> what is ubuntu-archive-toolbox?
[06:59] <vorlon> bryceh: the replacement for snakefruit, which has been decommed because 3FP
[07:23] <bryceh> thansk
[07:27] <LocutusOfBorg> hello, I'm planning to give back the 202 failed builds if nobody has objections to this...
[07:27] <LocutusOfBorg> some of them (e.g. r-base on riscv64) should succeed now, as well as some other perl stuff, and also nftables (already retried manually)
[07:28] <LocutusOfBorg> also mariadb succeeded with my retry
[07:32] <LocutusOfBorg> and I'm investigating why libssl-dev is not installable in proposed
[07:32] <LocutusOfBorg> Broken libssl-dev:amd64 Depends on libssl3:amd64 < 3.0.8-1ubuntu1.1 @ii pK > (= 3.0.8-1ubuntu1)
[07:39] <LocutusOfBorg> got the libssl issue
 Closed #1035410 in reportbug by Sandro Tosi (morph) «debian 12 lxqt desktop does not have network driver and no network icon». https://bugs.debian.org/1035410
 Closed #1035408 in reportbug by Sandro Tosi (morph) «network icon tray not shown on lxqt». https://bugs.debian.org/1035408
[07:39] <LocutusOfBorg> * BTS has changed the topic to: #d-d-c | RC bug count: 234 | stable RC bug count: 506 | NEW queue: 78 | backports NEW queue: 4 | RM queue: 2 | dinstall: not running
 Opened #1035413 in wnpp by Yadd (yadd) «ITP: node-codemirror-state -- Node.js module that implements the editor state for libjs-codemirror». https://bugs.debian.org/1035413
[07:39] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1035410 in reportbug "reportbug: debian 12 lxqt desktop does not have network driver and no network icon" [Important, Open]
[07:40] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1035408 in reportbug "reportbug: network icon tray not shown on lxqt" [Important, Open]
[07:40] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1035413 in wnpp "ITP: node-codemirror-state -- Node.js module that implements the editor state for libjs-codemirror" [Wishlist, Open]
[07:40] <LocutusOfBorg> * BTS has changed the topic to: #d-d-c | RC bug count: 233 | stable RC bug count: 506 | NEW queue: 78 | backports NEW queue: 4 | RM queue: 2 | dinstall: not running
 chromium 113.0.5672.63-1 uploaded with urgency high by Timothy Pearson<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(Closes: #992178, #1031352) https://tracker.debian.org/chromium
 Closed #992178 in chromium by Timothy Pearson<EMAIL_ADDRESS>«master_preferences has been renamed to initial_preferences (which gets ignored by Debian's chromium build)». https://bugs.debian.org/992178
[07:40] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 992178 in chromium "chromium: master_preferences has been renamed to initial_preferences (which gets ignored by Debian's chromium build)" [Minor, Open]
 Closed #562823 in apt by Julian Andres Klode (jak) «please support searching for packages on snapshot.d.o». https://bugs.debian.org/562823
[07:40] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 562823 in apt "apt: please support searching for packages on snapshot.d.o" [Wishlist, Open]
 Closed #1031352 in chromium by Timothy Pearson<EMAIL_ADDRESS>«Chromium on Wayland: Cannot join a Microsoft Teams enterprise meeting». https://bugs.debian.org/1031352
[07:40] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1031352 in chromium "Chromium on Wayland: Cannot join a Microsoft Teams enterprise meeting" [Normal, Open]
 dwarves 1.24-4.1 uploaded by Salvatore Bonaccorso (carnil) (Closes: #1033301) https://tracker.debian.org/dwarves
 gcc-11 11.3.0-13 uploaded by Matthias Klose (doko) https://tracker.debian.org/gcc-11
 Closed #1033301 in pahole by Salvatore Bonaccorso (carnil) «BTF deduplication issues causing arm64 kernel size increase». https://bugs.debian.org/1033301
[07:40] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1033301 in pahole "pahole: BTF deduplication issues causing arm64 kernel size increase" [Important, Open]
 Opened #1035414 in btrfsmaintenance 0.5-3.1 by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>«btrfsmaintenance unable to enable». https://bugs.debian.org/1035414
[07:40] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1035414 in btrfsmaintenance "btrfsmaintenance unable to enable" [Normal, Open]
 Opened #1035415 in tldr 0.6.4-1+b2 by chylex<EMAIL_ADDRESS>«tldr -u refers to non-existent branch and fails». https://bugs.debian.org/1035415
[07:40] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1035415 in tldr "tldr -u refers to non-existent branch and fails" [Important, Open]
[07:40] <LocutusOfBorg> sorry for the spam
[07:40] <LocutusOfBorg> ￼ 3.0.8-1ubuntu1	is in mantic
[07:40] <LocutusOfBorg> ￼ 3.0.8-1ubuntu1.1	is in lunar
[07:40] <LocutusOfBorg> can any ubuntu-archive please copy openssl from lunar-security to mantic?
[07:41] <LocutusOfBorg> copying openssl should fix most of the autopkgtest regressions, so the sooner the better
[07:42] <LocutusOfBorg> maybe I just did it
[07:45] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: openssl copy done
[07:46] <LocutusOfBorg> 	2023-04-25 14:10:09 CEST	Pending	Mantic	proposed	main	utils	3.0.8-1ubuntu1.1
[07:46] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: and no objections to give-backs
[07:46] <LocutusOfBorg> well, it was done already a week ago
[07:46] <LocutusOfBorg> something failed?
[07:46] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks btw :D
[07:46] <LocutusOfBorg> appreciated
[07:46] <LocutusOfBorg> I think the openssl copy will fail somewhere?
[07:47] <vorlon> where do you see that it was done a week ago?
[07:47] <LocutusOfBorg> publishinghistory
[07:47] <LocutusOfBorg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+publishinghistory
[07:47] <LocutusOfBorg> row=6
[07:48] <vorlon> hmmmmm
[07:48] <LocutusOfBorg> racy condition?
[07:48] <vorlon> I don't know
[07:48] <vorlon> we'll see if my copy succeeds
[07:48] <vorlon> if not, will escalate to launchpad team
[07:48] <LocutusOfBorg> I guess it won't, I think theoretically I had powers to do it by myself?
[07:49] <LocutusOfBorg> ./copy-package --from=ubuntu --from-suite=lunar-security openssl --to-suite=mantic-proposed --to=ubuntu -b
[07:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: postgresql-common (bionic-proposed/main) [190ubuntu0.1 => 190ubuntu0.2] (ubuntu-server)
[07:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: postgresql-common (jammy-proposed/main) [238 => 238ubuntu0.1] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
[07:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: postgresql-common (focal-proposed/main) [214ubuntu0.1 => 214ubuntu0.2] (ubuntu-server)
[07:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: postgresql-common (kinetic-proposed/main) [242ubuntu1 => 242ubuntu1.1] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
[07:49] <juliank> basically the reason it's failing is that the autopkgtest images update from lunar instead of a mantic base image because presumably none is around yet
[07:49] <LocutusOfBorg> if you want I can upload as 3.0.8-1ubuntu1.2 and live happy
[07:49] <juliank> it's  ~ the tests are
[07:49] <juliank> it'd be ubuntu2 now :D
[07:49] <vorlon> autopkgtest failures have no effect on launchpad publishing
[07:50] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, he means, that autopkgtests are failing because of that
[07:50] <vorlon> a publishing record shouldn't remain 'pending' for mantic-proposed for a week
[07:50] <LocutusOfBorg> not because the copy failed
[07:50] <vorlon> ah
[07:50] <LocutusOfBorg> if autopkgtests are running on lunar baseline, this is the issue, because lunar has higher version
[07:50] <juliank> yes but that's why the autopkgtests are failing surely, because the base image had ubuntu1.1 installed and the libssl-dev it now tries to install ubuntu1
[07:50] <vorlon> yes
[07:50] <juliank> It always happens at archive opening
[07:50] <LocutusOfBorg> but well, copying them to mantic "fixes" for now :)
[07:50] <vorlon> sorry, I had lost that context
[07:50] <LocutusOfBorg> so two issues to me?
[07:50] <vorlon> copying to mantic is always the correct thing!
[07:50] <juliank> because it takes a couple of weeks, sometimes also the entire cycle until base images are done
[07:51] <vorlon> N-1-security should never be creater than N-proposed
[07:51] <LocutusOfBorg> and the copy failed in my opinion
[07:51] <juliank> bdmurray: what's the status of clean mantic images for autopkgtest cloud?
[07:51] <LocutusOfBorg> I don't think you can copy if there is already the same copy in "pending" state
[07:52] <juliank> bdmurray: Usuually it's 1. images being built, 2. ask IS to setup glance copying to copy them, 3. rebuild devel image against new image
[07:55] <vorlon> yes, and we only just published debootstrap to mantic-release yesterday
[07:56] <vorlon> so CPC hasn't started building the base images yet afaik
[07:56] <vorlon> ginggs: ^^ have you notified CPC that things are ready to go?
[08:01] <LocutusOfBorg> please retry failed autopkgtests once openssl is copied :)
[08:05] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: I've escalated to LP but I think a sourceful reupload is likely to be faster
[08:05] <ginggs> vorlon: I did ping utkarsh2102
[08:05] <vorlon> ginggs: ok
[08:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-virtio-queue [amd64] (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.7.1-3] (no packageset)
[08:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-virtio-queue [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [0.7.1-3]
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[08:17] <utkarsh2102> ginggs, vorlon: hey, I’m on it. We were waiting on a backport.
[08:18] <vorlon> a backport?
[08:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-document-features [amd64] (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.2.7-2] (no packageset)
[08:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-document-features [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.2.7-2] (no packageset)
[08:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-document-features [arm64] (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.2.7-2] (no packageset)
[08:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-document-features [armhf] (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.2.7-2] (no packageset)
[08:41] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, please python3.12 on i386? python3-stdlib-extensions wants it...
[08:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-document-features [riscv64] (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.2.7-2] (no packageset)
[08:50] <LocutusOfBorg> openssl reuploaded.
[09:05] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.12/3.12.0~a7-1/+build/26022253
[09:17] <LocutusOfBorg> ta
[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed nvidia-graphics-drivers-530 from i386-whitelist in mantic
[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed testng from i386-whitelist in mantic
[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added debiandoc-sgml to i386-whitelist in mantic
[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added libroman-perl to i386-whitelist in mantic
[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added libtext-format-perl to i386-whitelist in mantic
[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added python3.12 to i386-whitelist in mantic
[09:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-document-features [s390x] (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.2.7-2] (no packageset)
[09:34] <LocutusOfBorg> new queue accept please^
[09:34] <LocutusOfBorg> rust-document-features and rust-virtio-queue are good
[09:40] <ricotz> Packageset: Removed nvidia-graphics-drivers-530 from i386-whitelist in mantic ???
[09:41] <ricotz> hello ubuntu-archive, ^ this should not be
[09:42] <vorlon> ricotz: the package is not published in mantic
[09:42] <vorlon> kinetic is the last release including this package
[09:43] <vorlon> so if it should be copied forward to lunar-updates and mantic-proposed, that can be done, and then it'll get auto-re-added to the set
[09:43] <ricotz> vorlon, I have copied nvidia-graphics-drivers-530 to the mantic pocket in https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[09:43] <ricotz> which should cause to it to be picked up again?
[09:43] <vorlon> why is it not published in that series in the archive?  I'll follow tseliot on this
[09:44] <ricotz> yeah, please contact tseliot for this
[09:45] <ricotz> vorlon, a binary copy to lunar and mantic of the following would be reasonable - https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=530&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=lunar
[10:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-vhost-user-backend [amd64] (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.8.0-3] (no packageset)
[10:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-vhost-user-backend [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.8.0-3] (no packageset)
[10:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-vhost-user-backend [s390x] (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.8.0-3] (no packageset)
[10:23] <ricotz> vorlon, please regenerate the i386-whitelist, so nvidia-530 gets picked up again
[10:28] <vorlon> ricotz: done
[10:29] <vorlon> ginggs, utkarsh2102: NOW debootstrap has migrated
[10:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-vhost-user-backend [riscv64] (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.8.0-3] (no packageset)
[10:40] <ricotz> vorlon, thanks, did it work?
[10:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added nvidia-graphics-drivers-530 to i386-whitelist in mantic
[10:57] <ricotz> \o/
[11:23] <bdmurray> There seems to be a package conflict with libsgutils2-2 and libsgutils2-1.46-2 see<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:27] <vorlon> :|
[12:07] <vorlon> bdmurray: lol Ubuntu-specific failure because our version is -1build1 instead of -1
[12:10] <vorlon> bdmurray: uploaded
[12:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected openssh [source] (lunar-proposed) [1:9.0p1-1ubuntu8.1]
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[12:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected openssh [source] (kinetic-proposed) [1:9.0p1-1ubuntu7.2]
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[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wordpress (jammy-proposed/universe) [5.8.3+dfsg1-1ubuntu1 => 5.8.3+dfsg1-1ubuntu1.1] (no packageset)
[12:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gce-compute-image-packages [source] (kinetic-proposed) [20230328.00-0ubuntu1~22.10.0]
[12:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gce-compute-image-packages [source] (jammy-proposed) [20230328.00-0ubuntu1~22.04.0]
[12:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gce-compute-image-packages [source] (focal-proposed) [20230328.00-0ubuntu1~20.04.0]
[12:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gce-compute-image-packages [source] (bionic-proposed) [20230328.00-0ubuntu1~18.04.0]
[15:12] <jbicha> vorlon: could you remove gjs from jammy-proposed? we need to complete investigating a bug before 1.74 should go to -updates. Meanwhile we have another fix to land
[16:57] <vorlon> jbicha: done
[18:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: budgie-desktop-environment (lunar-proposed/universe) [0.19.3 => 0.19.4~23.04.1] (personal-fossfreedom, ubuntu-budgie)
[19:54] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, what about hinting openssl to migrate *now*
[19:55] <LocutusOfBorg> reason is: thousand of tests are regressed due to this, and people started using migration-reference/0. This will reset autopkgtests for lots of packages, when it could be avoided just by hinting openssl
[19:55] <LocutusOfBorg> better force openssl instead of having migration-reference/0 be used as "badtest"
[19:59] <vorlon> who started using migration-reference/0
[20:00] <vorlon> I see only britney doing this
[20:02] <vorlon> anyway, I'll review the source diff vs lunar first just to be sure; then I agree
[20:03] <vorlon> grr why is curl/i386 being considered a regression
[20:04] <vorlon> ditto dogtag-pki
[20:08] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, isn't britney using migration-reference/0 already a good excuse to force hint?
[20:08] <LocutusOfBorg> the baseline is broken :)
[20:09] <LocutusOfBorg> am I missing something?
[20:09] <LocutusOfBorg> if we are using lunar release as autopkgtest baseline, britney migration-reference/0 will be enough to trigger a test reset
[20:10] <LocutusOfBorg> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/664321510/openssl_3.0.8-1ubuntu1.1_3.0.8-1ubuntu2.diff.gz the diff is 7 lines of changelog
[20:13] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: I'm not disagreeing, you just said "people" started using it and britney isn't people ;P
[20:13] <vorlon> I've added the hint
[20:13] <LocutusOfBorg> I consider britney a girl I can't understand properly :)
[20:13] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks for the hint, I hope we will save lots of autopkgtest retries
[20:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gimp-help [amd64] (mantic-proposed/universe) [2.10.34-1] (no packageset)


[11:06] <dupondje> Small question. Why does the latest kernel for disco in proposed update to:   * Disco update: 5.0.12 upstream stable release (LP: #1830934)
[11:06] <dupondje> While there is 5.0.21 already, why is there such a delay?
[13:01] <apw> dupondje, because they take time to prepare i guess, and a lot of time consumed by security CRD type releases like the one we just had
[13:02] <apw> dupondje, particularly where those stable updates clash with or contain variants of the CRD patch kits
[13:02] <apw> we normally try and be up to date as close as we can
[13:48] <dupondje> apw: ok thanks! :) 5.0.12 is 7 weeks old.
[13:49] <dupondje> What are those CRD patch kits?
[13:56] <apw> yeah, its not ideal for sure
[13:59] <apw> dupondje, the MDS release last monday for example, getting those ready can delay other work
[14:02] <dupondje> apw: Yea indeed. But you could lower the time by just using the latest 5.0.x (in disco case) kernel (which has the patch included)
[14:02] <dupondje> then you don't need to adjust the patch yourself
[14:02] <dupondje> Anyway, I don't know the whole ubuntu kernel flow :)
[14:03] <apw> we released those kernels before the patch kit was available on stable; necessarily because it was embargoed
[14:06] <dupondje> ah :(
[14:07] <dupondje> lets further debug my curreny issue with 5.2-rc5
[14:08] <dupondje> network seems to drop packages every 5 minutes or so :)
[14:08] <dupondje> 20 drops at ip_rcv_finish_core.isra.22+1ac (0xffffffff96d4828c)
[14:08] <apw> dupondje, we are aware of the tardyness of stable there; and it is on the teams radar


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