[00:00] <ibou> is it possible to increase the dpi?
[00:00] <Daisuke_Ido> sdc1
[00:00] <tekteen> try /dev/sdc1
[00:00] <stdin> [ka]killer: no, the entire disk includes a partition table, try /dev/sdc1
[00:00] <tom540> nosrednaekim; did you get it?
[00:00] <nosrednaekim> tom540: looking
[00:00] <[ka]killer> got it =P
[00:00] <[ka]killer> its sudo chmod 777 to give read/write to everyone right?
[00:00] <nosrednaekim> tom540: erase all of those lines
[00:00] <nosrednaekim> and save the file
[00:01] <tekteen> [ka]killer: yes
[00:01] <tekteen> [ka]killer: bad idea. fine for temp work
[00:01] <[ka]killer> what would i do for perminant?
[00:02] <tekteen> only allow yourself or a group edit it
[00:02] <nosrednaekim> tom540: ummmm BBIAB
[00:02] <tom540> okay.
[00:02] <[ka]killer> problem is its a network storage drive -_-
[00:02] <tekteen> ?
[00:02] <tekteen> what is?
[00:02] <[ka]killer> the drive im working on right now
[00:02] <tekteen> ok
[00:03] <tekteen> I am confused
[00:03] <[ka]killer> ok... i just need read write to be open for everyone that accesses the drive
[00:03] <tekteen> [ka]killer: ok
[00:04] <tekteen> [ka]killer: what you did was good. I am just paranoid :-D
[00:04] <thecrono> nicotine froze
[00:05] <thecrono> :O
[00:05] <[ka]killer> bah >_< how do i change ownership of the drive
[00:05] <[ka]killer> its saying root is the owner
[00:06] <tekteen> chown user.group /drive/mount/point
[00:06] <tekteen> with sudo
[00:06] <[ka]killer> so... sudo chown john /dev/sdc1 /mnt/disk ?
[00:07] <tekteen> sure
[00:07] <tekteen> no
[00:07] <tekteen> nm
[00:07] <tekteen> take out /dev/sdc1
[00:08] <tekteen> just the drive mountpoints
[00:08] <tekteen> mountpoint*
[00:09] <[ka]killer> its still saying root -__
[00:09] <[ka]killer> john@Jimmy:~$ sudo chown john /mnt/disk
[00:09] <tekteen> try john.john instead of john
[00:09] <thecrono> nicotine froze again
[00:09] <thecrono> becomes unresponsive
[00:09] <thecrono> :(
[00:09] <[ka]killer> nope
[00:10] <tekteen> not sure why
[00:10] <[ka]killer> -__
[00:10] <[ka]killer> -_-
[00:10] <[ka]killer> can i just give ownership to all?
[00:11] <[ka]killer> like chmod 777 gives read/write to all?
[00:11] <tekteen> yes
[00:11] <tekteen> that works
[00:11] <[ka]killer> how
[00:11] <tekteen> chmod 777
[00:11] <[ka]killer> i mean for chown
[00:11] <tekteen> there is no way
[00:11] <[ka]killer> -_-
[00:11] <tekteen> someone must own a file
[00:12] <tekteen> if no one does then root should own it and it should be chmod 777'ed
[00:12] <[ka]killer> ha
[00:12] <[ka]killer> it was /dev/sdc1
[00:12] <[ka]killer> not /mnt/disk
[00:13] <tekteen> ?
[00:13] <tekteen> that can not be good
[00:13] <[ka]killer> john@Jimmy:~$ sudo chown john /dev/sdc1
[00:13] <[ka]killer> worked
[00:13] <tekteen> never allow the device to be writable by normal people
[00:13] <[ka]killer> tekteen
[00:14] <DFlame> anyone reckon they can help with a USB mounted drive locking up every time I try and copy something big?
[00:14] <[ka]killer> thats the entire f**king point of this drive -_-
[00:14] <tekteen> ?
[00:14] <[ka]killer> im the only one in my house that knows how to get to it anyway
[00:14] <tekteen> whatever
[00:14] <[ka]killer> the way my set up is, is i work on my tablet, which only has a 40gb hdd, i have 2 drives that i network from my brothers computer to use as storage
[00:14] <[ka]killer> i need to be able to read/write to these when ever i want
[00:15] <tekteen> just it is not good security (yes I am paranoid) to not allow someone to modify the device directly without going through the system
[00:15] <articpenguin3800> will installing gnome slow down my computer
[00:15] <tekteen> articpenguin3800: only if you use it and not by much
[00:16] <articpenguin3800> only cost is extra hdd space
[00:16] <[ka]killer> tekteen: i know, but that is how ive had it set up for the past 3 years with no problems, even when i was still on windows
[00:16] <tekteen> articpenguin3800: unless it is worse then any computer I will ever see
[00:16] <thecrono> nicotine is broken..it froze again
[00:16] <tekteen> [ka]killer: ok
[00:17] <articpenguin3800> its for my old laptop with xubuntu on it
[00:17] <tekteen> I do not care. Once again I am paranoid
[00:17] <articpenguin3800> p3 667MHz 256mb ram
[00:17] <tekteen> I setup my computer with top security
[00:17] <tekteen> even though I do not need it
[00:17] <thecrono> security? what is that?
[00:17] <tekteen> thecrono: I need to be more like you
[00:18] <articpenguin3800> is it possible to recompile the kernel that came with gutsy
[00:19] <tekteen> articpenguin3800: it is not easy
[00:19] <articpenguin3800> how isnt it easy? i have compiled lots of kernels on kubuntu
[00:19] <tekteen> nm then
[00:19] <articpenguin3800> kernels that came from kernel.org
[00:20] <tekteen> articpenguin3800: what is the reason
[00:20] <articpenguin3800> optimize the kernel for my processor
[00:20] <tekteen> ok
[00:21] <articpenguin3800> can i get the kernel from synaptic
[00:21] <tekteen> yes. linux-source
[00:21] <articpenguin3800> where does the source get placed
[00:22] <SlimeyPete>  /usr/src
[00:22] <articpenguin3800> in a tar ball
[00:22] <tekteen> I think it is decompressed
[00:30] <Daisuke_Ido> mmmkay, i got one of the issues i wanted to fix taken care of
[00:31] <Daisuke_Ido> got wine and bejeweled 2 installed on jen's pc...  works great, and that's about the only game she missed from windows :)
[00:31] <Daisuke_Ido> had to go find a nice png icon though, the original looked like something a 3 year old would spit up
[00:33] <LogicalDash> I seem to have lost all the icons in my OpenOffice. The last thing I remember changing on my system was a bunch of color settings... what might I have broken?
[00:35] <xevious> which program is more appropriate for use in a script: adduser or useradd?
[00:36] <tekteen> I use adduser
[00:36] <crimsun> xevious: depends how portable you want it to be.  Debian's adduser is modified.
[00:36] <crimsun> xevious: (i.e., Kubuntu's is, too, as a result)
[00:37] <xevious> ok. but is one of them the sysv or posix or whatever standards base compliant one?
[00:37] <crimsun> useradd is.
[00:38] <xevious> ok
[00:38] <xevious> i'll use that
[00:38] <articpenguin3800> is there to get around ext3s 32k sub folder limit?
[00:39] <xevious> why do you need over 32000 folders?
[00:39] <xevious> wait is that system wide or subfolders within one folder?
[00:40] <jhend60> hi everyone again
[00:41] <jhend60> for those of you who dont know i have a prob installing ubuntu
[00:41] <jhend60> (kubuntu)
[00:41] <jhend60> go here to see
[00:41] <jhend60> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/185510
[00:41] <articpenguin3800> its an issue with flightgear
[00:41] <jhend60> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/185510
[00:42] <nosrednaekim> tom540: yo... did you fix it?
[00:42] <jhend60> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/185510
[00:42] <jhend60> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/185510
[00:42] <jhend60> plz go here to help me
[00:43] <nosrednaekim> !repeat
[00:43] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:43] <NickPresta> jhend60, stop spamming the channel. For one, that doesn't really qualify as a bug. You provided no helpful information and you're asking prople to help you instead of reporting a known bug that cannot be easily fixed.
[00:44] <jhend60> ok
[00:44] <jhend60> sorry
[00:44] <jhend60> i am a noob
[00:44] <NickPresta> jhend60, I suggest you get a pastebin and write out your problem in full detail, including your computer specs and what happens at each step when you do it. Any output is helpful too
[00:44] <NickPresta> !patebin | jhend60
[00:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patebin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:44] <NickPresta> !pastebin | jhend60
[00:44] <ubotu> jhend60: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:45] <jhend60> ok
[00:45] <jhend60> so thats what i should use
[00:50] <jhend60> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53260/
[00:50] <jhend60> my pastebin is above
[00:52] <jhend60> now it is
[00:52] <jhend60> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53261/
[00:54] <jhend60> |||read above|||
[00:55] <NickPresta> jhend60, okay. Now here is what you can do to get help. You can create a topic on http://ubuntuforums.com/. Find the correct section and copy and paste your problem from the pastebin to the message. You can wait for a response there. You can also periodically (every hour or so) repost your pastebin link and hope someone in the channel can help you.
[00:55] <NickPresta> jhend60, asking someone to help you or pointing out your pastebin every few minutes is just going to annoy the regulars who are here :)
[00:55] <jhend60> oh ok
[00:56] <Dr_willis_> many people dont have acccess to web browsers at all times also. :()
[00:57] <NickPresta> that is true. summarizing your problem into a sentence or two, would help when reposting in this channel
[00:58] <jhend60> ok then when I install kubuntu it has a blank screen after loading in normal mode, and in safe mode a bar is at the top of the screen and I cant do anything.
[00:58] <jhend60> I have intel 82810 graphics card
[01:03] <jhend60> all done
[01:03] <jhend60> forum post made
[01:04] <thecrono> wine does not support joystick or POV hat?
[01:04] <Dr_willis_> I recall using joysticks in wine befor.
[01:04] <thecrono> i ahve a playstation controller...the buttons work, but the axis/pov don't
[01:04] <thecrono> [pov is the 4 arrows]
[01:04] <argnel> how do i get adept to pass clicks through to the vmware-player debconf?
[01:04] <Dr_willis_> I would say check the #wine channel and forums for that.
[01:05] <thecrono> oh whoops, this is wrong channel :D
[01:05] <Dr_willis_> :P
[01:05] <Dr_willis_> We get that all the time
[01:05] <argnel> i had to ask this 6 months ago, i should have written it down i guess :)
[01:06] <Dr_willis_> argnel,  Im not even sure wht you are asking. :)
[01:06] <[ITA]mitticoooo> a question from a newbie
[01:06] <[ITA]mitticoooo> when i install something
[01:06] <[ITA]mitticoooo> with the program install manager
[01:06] <Dr_willis_> if you are in adept and have a 'text' config dialog - ive used the tab key to move around  those to acceps the elua/select gdm/kdm whatever..  then hit enter
[01:06] <[ITA]mitticoooo> but the i want to unistall
[01:06] <[ITA]mitticoooo> how con i find what i have previously installed
[01:06] <[ITA]mitticoooo> and remove it?
[01:07] <baudthief> Help... My machine won't boot anymore. Something about an Nvidia Kernel API version mismatch
[01:07] <baudthief> I didnt install anything, just restarted!
[01:07] <thecrono> man wine is dead
[01:07] <thecrono> #winehq
[01:07] <argnel> Dr_willis_: it won't pass anything into the 'text' config
[01:07] <Dr_willis_> baudthief,   how did You install your nvidia drivers in the past?
[01:07] <argnel> i can highligth text and that is about it
[01:07] <Dr_willis_> argnel,  Not sure then. Normally i use the console apt-get commands.
[01:07] <Dr_willis_> or synaptic.
[01:07] <baudthief> Dr_willis: Nothing except the driver from the nVidia website works
[01:08] <[ITA]mitticoooo> How can i see recent drivers/program installed, so to remove them if i would?
[01:08] <baudthief> *worked
[01:08] <argnel> Dr_willis_: me too, but this is not debian so i figured i'd just use the kubuntu tools
[01:08] <Dr_willis_> baudthief,  if you downloaded/installed the drivers from the web site and Did NOT use the package manager way. THEN every time you have a kernel upgrade - you MUST reinstall the video card drivers manually
[01:08] <argnel> it isn't making me real happy about kubuntu that this keeps happening without getting fixed
[01:09] <baudthief> Dr_willis: Damn, I guess update-manager must've installed / upgraded the kernel
[01:09] <Dr_willis_> argnel,  i find adept to be a bit of a hassle.
[01:09] <baudthief> *new
[01:09] <Dr_willis_> baudthief,  Highly likely. :)
[01:09] <[ITA]mitticoooo> Dr_willis: I am new Kubuntu user, how can i unistall program?
[01:09] <argnel> Dr_willis_: yes, it is
[01:09] <Dr_willis_> [ITA]mitticoooo,  fire up the package manager, uncheck the installed ones.. hit apply
[01:10] <[ITA]mitticoooo> ok i guess
[01:10] <Dr_willis_> [ITA]mitticoooo,  or use the apt-get commands from the shell.. or synaptic, or the add/remove program icon
[01:10] <[ITA]mitticoooo> but if i don't remember in which category was installed
[01:10] <[ITA]mitticoooo> previously how can i find that
[01:10] <baudthief> Dr_willis_: Would you be able to do me a MASSIVE favour please? I need the link to nVidias driver, running bitchX in text mode, I cant get kdm/x running, so only thing I'm able to do is wget...   Actually if you kept the old install file for nvidia that you used befor - You could just rerun its installer. also.
[01:11] <Dr_willis_> what video card is this baudthief ?
[01:11] <[ITA]mitticoooo> there is not some kind of view "latest program installed"?
[01:12] <Dr_willis_> [ITA]mitticoooo,  not that iv4e ever seen
[01:12] <baudthief> Dr_willis_: Hope I still got that file :P lemme check, card is nV7600GS
[01:12] <Dragnslcr> Dr_willis, [ITA]mitticoooo- there is /var/log/dpkg.log that should show what packages have been installed
[01:12] <baudthief> or GT, cant remember
[01:12] <[ITA]mitticoooo> but did you understand the problem?
[01:12] <Dr_willis_> wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.09/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.09-pkg1.run
[01:12] <[ITA]mitticoooo> imagine i istall firefox
[01:12] <Dr_willis_> How about those baudthief
[01:13] <baudthief> ahh crap I forget, no copy/paste lol - NOBODY SAY ANYTHING
[01:13] <baudthief> better write it down :P
[01:13] <Dr_willis_> [ITA]mitticoooo,  Then you can fire up the package manager, search for firefox,  and unclick it.
[01:13] <[ITA]mitticoooo> ok perfect
[01:13] <[ITA]mitticoooo> but imagine now
[01:13] <Dr_willis_> baudthief,  dont have GPM going for mouse in the consoel eh?
[01:13] <baudthief> Dr_willis: And thanks!
[01:13] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i install something not so easy to recognize
[01:13] <[ITA]mitticoooo> e.g some kind of driver
[01:14] <[ITA]mitticoooo> Will I have to search carefully at the list of installed programs
[01:14] <[ITA]mitticoooo> and finally find the driver?
[01:14] <[ITA]mitticoooo> hoping to dont' uninstall something wrong?
[01:15] <[ITA]mitticoooo> another quistion: does someone uses Virtual emulation
[01:15] <[ITA]mitticoooo> for running Kubuntu?
[01:17] <[ITA]mitticoooo> someone uses VirtualBox?
[01:17] <baudthief> Dr_willis_: Thanks, installing now!
[01:17] <baudthief> is there any way to bump the res in this terminal/shell up to svga?
[01:18] <DFlame> anyone reckon they can help with a USB mounted drive locking up every time I try and copy something big?
[01:18] <baudthief> one sentence ales up the whole damn screen lol
[01:18] <baudthief> *takes
[01:18] <[ITA]mitticoooo> someone uses VirtualBox or other kind of Virtualization?
[01:19] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i go to bed i'm tired in Italy are 02:20 a.m.
[01:19] <[ITA]mitticoooo> good nigh
[01:19] <[ITA]mitticoooo> night
[01:22] <reverend_joshua> !westinghouse
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about westinghouse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <reverend_joshua> !monitor
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <NickPresta> reverend_joshua, what are you looking for?
[01:23] <g2g591> reverend_joshua: play with ubotu in private chat please
[01:23] <reverend_joshua> i've got a westinghouse 19" monitor with a native resolution of 1440x900
[01:24] <reverend_joshua> but i can't get close to that
[01:24] <andrew_> is there a log file that i can look at to figure out why my system sometimes does a full system freeze?
[01:24] <g2g591> reverend_joshua: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (in konsole)
[01:24] <NickPresta> reverend_joshua, which graphics card
[01:24] <reverend_joshua> nvidia geforce 6200
[01:24] <NickPresta> !nvidia | reverend_joshua
[01:24] <ubotu> reverend_joshua: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:25] <thecrono> is there any way to completely disable kubuntu firewall?
[01:25] <NickPresta> reverend_joshua, make sure you have the proper nvidia drivers.
[01:25] <reverend_joshua> i've tried the nvidia install
[01:25] <thecrono> i'm DMZ on my router, but i still cannot connect to soulseek
[01:25] <g2g591> reverend_joshua: it will prompt you for some stuff and will set your resoultion according to those choices
[01:25] <NickPresta> reverend_joshua, and?
[01:25] <reverend_joshua> i need to give it a go again
[01:25] <g2g591> reverend_joshua: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:25] <reverend_joshua> i just installed kubuntu for the first time monday night, so i'm still learning
[01:26] <NickPresta> reverend_joshua, okay. Give it a shot. You can use nvidia-settings to change your resolution and such. You can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and see if your desired resolution works.
[01:26]  * g2g591 puts up a neon sign saying sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:27] <thecrono> man, i am never going to get p2p
[01:27] <thecrono> nicotine crashes, soulseek in wine doesn'twork
[01:27] <NickPresta> !frostwire | thecrono
[01:27] <g2g591> thecrono: sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[01:27] <ubotu> thecrono: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[01:28] <thecrono> frostwire uses limewire servers?
[01:28] <thecrono> let me check
[01:28] <NickPresta> thecrono, they're all part of the GNUtella network
[01:28] <thecrono> what is that?
[01:29] <NickPresta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnutella
[01:29] <reverend_joshua> i did the dpkg-reconfigure, do i just reboot now?
[01:30] <NickPresta> reverend_joshua, restart X. Logout and find "Restart X server" from the login menu or just press Control + Alt + Backspace to immediately restart X.
[01:30] <reverend_joshua> ok, thanks
[01:31] <reverend_joshua> sweet, it worked
[01:31] <reverend_joshua> thanks, guys
[01:31] <reverend_joshua> this looks SO much better
[01:32] <thecrono> of course, frostwire crashes aswell
[01:32] <reverend_joshua> i've got a dual boot setup with XP and i went back to XP today after two days of 1152x864 and it looked so weird
[01:32] <thecrono> :(
[01:32] <reverend_joshua> this is great
[01:32] <thecrono> everythign is crashign left and right
[01:33] <thecrono> not even with an error, jsut laods up..then closes
[01:33] <NickPresta> thecrono, are you sure you're not having a problem with Java? Which version of Kubuntu do you have?
[01:33] <thecrono> frost wire jsut shows a spinning hour glass, then closesa
[01:33] <thecrono> latest
[01:33] <thecrono> 7.10
[01:33] <NickPresta> thecrono, run it from the console. See the output
[01:33] <thecrono> ive no idea how to do that heh
[01:34] <NickPresta> thecrono, open up a Konsole and type: frostwire
[01:34] <thecrono> need JRE 1.5.X
[01:34] <thecrono> what is the package name?
[01:35] <NickPresta> !jre | thecrono
[01:35] <ubotu> thecrono: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:36] <thecrono> i sure hope linux knows to install to /home/ because system is almsot empty
[01:36] <thecrono> almost full*
[01:36] <Wilson> heh, you're funny thecrono
[01:36] <thecrono> linux is on a 6gb system partition..its almost full
[01:37] <Wilson> only user files end up in /home
[01:37] <thecrono> /home/is 50gb lol
[01:37] <thecrono> i guess i need to reinstall kubuntu?
[01:37] <NickPresta> thecrono, what do you have in your / that equals ~6GB?
[01:38] <Wilson> you can use gparted to resize your partitions
[01:38] <thecrono> well, linux was about 3gb, and the past day, fixing problems and stuff has added like 2gb onto it
[01:38] <Wilson> kde is suposed to have qtparted but it's ugly
[01:38] <thecrono> ive not even got things like python and tools for coding yet
[01:39] <NickPresta> I would probably find a way to free up some space in your / before you start editing partitions
[01:39] <thecrono> if i do that, something will break
[01:39] <thecrono> i installed kubuntu yesterday
[01:39] <thecrono> been fixing problems all day today
[01:39] <thecrono> i need every package
[01:40] <DaveDorm> Wilson: I don't think qtparted is installed by default, I had to install it yesterday to reformat a USB drive
[01:40] <DaveDorm> Wilson: but it's in apt, so it's easy to get
[01:40] <Wilson> he will need to boot off a livecd or something anyway to be able to resize his / partition
[01:40] <NickPresta> thecrono, it depends on what you're removing. I only have 3.5G in my / and I have ~1500 packages installed and various kernel images. I'm sure you can find something to remove that isn't needed (or isn't needed in /)
[01:41] <DaveDorm> Wilson: yeah, it is on the LiveCD, I forgot about that... it's been a while
[01:43] <thecrono> it works nopw
[01:43] <thecrono> :D
[01:43] <thecrono> how can i tell when i am fully connected?
[01:44] <Taggnostr> how can I add more resolutions to kubuntu? actually the max resolution available is 1024x768, but I've a 1680x1050 monitor
[01:45] <DFlame> Taggnostr, what video card have you got?
[01:45] <thecrono> what is the kde theme manager called?/
[01:45] <paule118> Samba-Freigaben
[01:45] <thecrono> or do i already have it?
[01:46] <thecrono> i want to change the windows etc etc to somethign diffrent
[01:46] <thecrono> icons etc
[01:46] <Taggnostr> ati radeon something, I'm running it on a virtual machine and with an ubuntu6.06 vm I was able to set that resolution
[01:46] <tekteen> thecrono: you can do that in system settings
[01:47] <DFlame> Taggnostr, im not totally sure, but running in a virtual machine isnt going to let you have any higher a resolution
[01:47] <Taggnostr> I edited the xorg.conf file adding the 1680x1050 resolution to the others, but here in the xorg.conf file I can't see resolutions at all
[01:47] <thecrono> but i cannot do custom themes
[01:47] <thecrono> can i?
[01:47] <paule118> Beenden Flare183 hat den Server verlassen (Remote closed the connection).
[01:47] <paule118> [Do Jan 24 2008] [02:45:33] <DFlame> Taggnostr, what video card have you got?
[01:47] <thecrono> all the ones included are fugly
[01:47] <g2g591> taggnostr: to change your resolution, the easiest way is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:48] <paule118> ething, I'm running it on a virtual machine and with an ubuntu6.06 v
[01:48] <paule118> ething, I'm running it on a virtual machine and with an ubuntu6.06 v
[01:48] <paule118> ething, I'm running it on a virtual machine and with an ubuntu6.06 v
[01:48] <Taggnostr> ok, I try it
[01:48] <paule118>  ok, I try it
[01:48] <paule118>  ok, I try it
[01:48] <paule118>  ok, I try it
[01:48]  * g2g591 slaps a trout with a large paule118
[01:49] <Chillyboarder> guys
[01:49] <Chillyboarder> kubuntu straight from the disc installed, whats the best resolution?
[01:49] <thecrono> Can i change the icon of a spcific folder i made?
[01:49] <paule118> Beenden Flare183 hat den Server verlassen (Remote closed the connection).
[01:49] <thecrono> any you want chilly
[01:50] <tekteen> thecrono: you can change it in the properties box
[01:50] <Chillyboarder> I installed Ubuntu 7.04 a long time ago, and it wasn't right...
[01:50] <Chillyboarder> was pretty much the right size, but blurry
[01:50] <tekteen> thecrono: right click on the folder, click properties, click on the icon
[01:50] <thecrono> wait, how do i make a shortcut to another folder inside of /home/ ?
[01:51] <thecrono> i need a shortcut to a folder
[01:51] <thecrono> and i want to give it a custom icon
[01:51] <biovore> you can..
[01:51] <tekteen> thecrono: then do what I said above
[01:51] <Wilson> use you use a symbolic link   'ln -s folder shortcut'
[01:51] <g2g591> thecrono: i don't exactly know the gui way, but ln -s /home/target /whereyouwanttheshortcut
[01:51] <Wilson> oh forget what i said then
[01:52] <biovore> right click on the desktop and select create new, link to URL..  the URL will be /home/<username>
[01:52] <biovore> then select it properities and change the ICON to what ever..
[01:52] <tekteen> the gui way  is to move the folder while holding ctrl shift
[01:52] <thecrono> ah,ok
[01:52]  * Dr_willis_ is back
[01:52] <tekteen> that creates a link
[01:53] <thecrono> now to find some leet icons :D
[01:53] <thecrono> but i am curious..i seen a picture of a desktop that had some HUGE icons
[01:53] <thecrono> they were the size of like 9 of the normal ones
[01:54] <thecrono> can i set anything as an icon or does it have to be an icon file?
[01:54] <Taggnostr> lol, I've broken something
[01:55] <thecrono> what did you break?
[01:55] <mot_> is it possible to program the windows key to do shit in linux?
[01:55] <thecrono> probably
[01:55] <thecrono> !language
[01:55] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:55] <mot_> ugh
[01:55] <mot_> is it possible to program the windows key to do stuff in linux?
[01:55] <Wilson> its used by default alot with compiz
[01:55] <thecrono> lol
[01:55] <mot_> hmm
[01:55] <thecrono> maby khotkey can help you?
[01:55] <thecrono> !khotkey
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about khotkey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <ahmos> Hi everybody, I have changed the server that i can download programes from it so now some items are not available to download...I'm from egypt..can anyone help me?
[01:56] <Taggnostr> I can't see the pointer anymore :D
[01:56] <tekteen> mot_: yes
[01:56] <thecrono> LOL, Taggnostr = pwnd
[01:56] <mot_> tekteen, ?
[01:56] <tekteen> mot_: it is called the supper key
[01:56] <mot_> thecrono, apt-cache search khotkey yields nothing
[01:56] <Taggnostr> thecrono, something like that
[01:56] <Taggnostr> let me fix
[01:56] <mot_> well, are they any apps that allow me to setup shortcuts for it
[01:56] <Dragnslcr> mot_- it's a modifier key (like shift, ctrl, and alt), so it can't do anything by itself
[01:57] <mot_> yes, i know
[01:57] <tekteen> mot_: I think all do
[01:57] <ubuntu> hola
[01:57] <mot_> i want to provide some sort of functionality like windows. i.e. Win+E does something, etc.
[01:57] <tekteen> ok
[01:57] <respatix> what do you guys use on kubuntu for bittorrent downloads?
[01:57] <Dragnslcr> mot_- you can set global hotkeys in System Settings -> Accessibility -> Input Actions
[01:57] <g2g591> ubuntu: #ubuntu-es para espanol
[01:57] <cheguevara> ktorrent
[01:57] <mot_> thanks
[01:57] <ubuntu> hola
[01:57] <respatix> I'm just using the standard ktorrent
[01:58] <ceci> hola
[01:58] <respatix> are there any other good choices?
[01:58] <tekteen> using kmenueditor you can set up programs to start up when you use super+anykey
[01:58] <ahmos>  Hi everybody, I have changed the server that i can download programes from it so now some items are not available to download...I'm from egypt..can anyone help me?
[01:58] <tekteen> mot_: just use kmenueditor
[01:58] <Taggnostr> wow, I'm getting used to linux, now I can fix the broken things in the same time I need to break them
[01:58] <tekteen> Taggnostr: GREAT JOB
[01:59] <mot_> tekteen, package name?
[01:59] <tekteen> now lets not break things
[01:59] <Taggnostr> so I'm at the start point
[01:59] <tekteen> mot_: it is installed
[01:59] <mot_> where?
[01:59] <tekteen> type alt+F2 then type kmenueditor
[01:59] <mot_> it is not installed man
[01:59] <tekteen> no it is kmenuedit
[02:00] <mot_> ahh
[02:00] <tekteen> the command is kmenuedit
[02:00] <respatix> anyone know of any good bittorrent clients for kubuntu other than ktorrent
[02:00] <tekteen> rtorrent
[02:00] <tekteen> or utorrent
[02:00] <ahmos> respatix:azureus
[02:00] <tekteen> rtorrent is cli based
[02:01] <tekteen> or deluge torrent
[02:01] <ahmos> azureus man it is the best
[02:01] <bazhang> cough transmission cough
[02:01] <thecrono> how do i install .7z support for ark?
[02:01]  * tekteen likes rtorrent
[02:02] <tekteen> thecrono: sudo apt-get install p7zip
[02:02] <thecrono> all the files from kde-look at .7z
[02:02] <thecrono> sudo apt-get install p7zip
[02:02] <thecrono> oops
[02:02] <tekteen> put a * at the end
[02:02] <thecrono> thank god i didn't type my root password in here lol
[02:02] <tekteen> it installs more
[02:03] <tekteen> lol
[02:03] <thecrono> because that was next
[02:03] <tekteen> thecrono: you need to start figuring out some stuff on your own.
[02:03] <xevious> how can i generate a linux password hash (as found in the password field in /etc/passwd) at the command prompt?
[02:03] <ahmos>  Hi everybody, I have changed the server that i can download programes from it so now some items are not available to download...I'm from egypt..can anyone help me?
[02:04] <ahmos> plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[02:04] <g2g591> thecrono: to search for packages, apt-cache search works half way decently
[02:04] <val0> tekteen lol re:tehcrono remark
[02:04] <tekteen> val0: ty
[02:05] <tekteen> ahmos: can you change it back?
[02:05] <thecrono> yeah,how do i resize icons?..i seen a desktop on kubuntu that has like, huge icons, and small ones etc etc
[02:05] <thecrono> one icon was almsot the entier bottom 1/4 of the screen :O
[02:05] <ahmos> yes but it was a server for egypt now i don't see any egypt in the list
[02:05] <tekteen> thecrono: look in system settings
[02:05] <thecrono> it was in giant teddy bear
[02:06] <val0> thecrono you've been on here for the last what 6 hours at leas?
[02:06] <thecrono> last 2 days i think
[02:06] <tekteen> thecrono: this is the last trivial thing I am helping you with
[02:06] <val0> thecrono that's some major issues you've got
[02:06] <tekteen> I did not know this but looked it up in 3 secs
[02:06] <thecrono> huh?
[02:07] <ol_dude67> i dont think he knows how to read or google.
[02:07] <tekteen> systemsettings > Appearance > Icons
[02:07] <ol_dude67> oops
[02:07] <tekteen> thecrono: look at my last post ^
[02:08] <tekteen> then go to the advanced tab
[02:08] <thecrono> i got it
[02:08] <tekteen> thecrono: I am not trying to be mean. Just please try to look yourself before asking
[02:09] <xevious> netsplit or did i just get bopped off for some reason?
[02:09] <ahmos> can i restor my system to an earlier time
[02:09] <ol_dude67> xevious, netsplit
[02:10] <val0> i am trying to mount a USB HD through Dolphin and get "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused on uid 1000" any clue?
[02:10] <tekteen> ahmos: do you have a backup?
[02:10] <ahmos> no
[02:10] <tekteen> ahmos: no
[02:10] <tekteen> you need to backup you computer
[02:10] <tekteen> I backup the entire partition
[02:10] <ahmos> yes i know now
[02:11] <ahmos> so there isn't anyway that help me restoring egypt server
[02:11] <ahmos> ?
[02:12] <tekteen> you could change it back?
[02:12] <ahmos> how
[02:12] <ahmos> ?
[02:12] <tekteen> How did you change it the first time?
[02:13] <ahmos> from add/remove programs then i clicked edit software sources then I choosed the main server
[02:13] <ahmos> now i can't get it back
[02:13] <tekteen> ok
[02:13] <tekteen> why not?
[02:14] <ahmos> because i can't see egypt in the list
[02:14] <tekteen> why not
[02:14] <ahmos> i don't know ..i think it was a server assighned for egypt in another country
[02:15] <tekteen> ahmos: ok. you could look for another person's (from your country) sources.list
[02:15] <tekteen> other then that I do not know how to help you
[02:16] <ahmos> ok thank u for your time
[02:16] <tekteen> np
[02:16] <blizzzek> gn8
[02:16] <[ka]killer> tekteen i need a new mount point
[02:17] <[ka]killer> besides /mnt/disk
[02:17] <tekteen> [ka]killer: why
[02:17] <[ka]killer> to mount another drive -_- why else
[02:17] <tekteen> ok
[02:17] <tekteen> so... why do you need help?
[02:17] <[ka]killer> i fogot how to f**king make a new mount poin
[02:17] <[ka]killer> point*
[02:18] <tekteen> ok
[02:18] <tekteen> sudo mkdir /mnt/disk2
[02:18] <tekteen> then
[02:18] <tekteen> mount /dev/I-do-not-know /mnt/disk2
[02:19] <tekteen> [ka]killer: does that work?
[02:20] <[ka]killer> the disk is mounted and i can access it by typing /mnt/disk2 in but its not showing up in computer:///
[02:20] <tekteen> [ka]killer: what is the prob.?
[02:20] <[ka]killer> meh it works
[02:20] <[ka]killer> i'll be back!
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[02:21] <SupportBush> See if you can decrypt this message! Google for the smiley encryption algorithm!
[02:21] <ol_dude67> someone kill that
[02:21] <SupportBush> ol_dude67: Smiley cipher. ;)
[02:22] <SupportBush> Seriously, I'm here to learn about Kubuntu.
[02:22] <ol_dude67> well thats not the way to do it.
[02:22] <ImpeachBush> Okay.
[02:23] <LjL> !etiquette > ImpeachBush    (ImpeachBush, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:24] <sub[t]rnl> *titter*
[02:25] <Gemtech> chat.us.freenode.net
[02:25] <thecrono> i'm trying to cd into a folder with ( and ) but it gives me a syntax error to close to (
[02:25] <thecrono> :S
[02:25] <Gemtech> hello i need help........
[02:25] <thecrono> The folder needs the ( also
[02:26] <sub[t]rnl> !ask | Gemtech
[02:26] <ubotu> Gemtech: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:28] <Gemtech> please i got kubntu installed. all good until i decided to use the driver kubuntu ask me to use i have a 9800 pro dvi or vga with a 22 inch westinghouse 1650 1050 resolution all i get is a blnk screen right after splash screen never get to logon screen
[02:29] <tekteen> Gemtech: I guess you should use your old xorg.conf file
[02:29] <sub[t]rnl> Gemtech➜ if you don't have an old one, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the proper driver
[02:29] <Dr_willis_> this is an nvidia or ati video card?
[02:29] <Gemtech> well before change it  was listed as vesa by default of cd  ati 9800 pro
[02:29] <tekteen> sub[t]rnl: I need to remember that :-D
[02:29] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[02:30] <Gemtech> it looked crappy :[
[02:30] <Dr_willis_> it would be best to get the 'fglrx' drivers installed for that card. but ati card support can be a little flakey.
[02:30] <Dr_willis_> !ati
[02:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:31] <Gemtech> ok so how do i get back before formatting again
[02:31] <tekteen> ?
[02:31] <tekteen> what do you mean?
[02:32] <Gemtech> im on windows right now if i try kubuntu i get a black screen ever since i changed drivers
[02:32] <tekteen> ok
[02:32] <Dr_willis> you can just edit your xorg.conf to use the vesa driver instead of the fglx one.  If you want
[02:32] <Dr_willis> That will get X going at least. but it wont be optimal
[02:32] <tekteen> why did you not use sub[t]rnl's advice
[02:33] <Gemtech> how?
[02:33] <tekteen> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the proper driver
[02:33] <mike__> does apt use port 80 to access headers?
[02:33] <tekteen> mike__: yes
[02:33] <Gemtech> i can do that by choosing the second option on my screen?
[02:33] <mike__> yeah, im having a very interesting problem then
[02:34] <Gemtech> i cannot load kubuntu it shows splash screen and than black screen
[02:34] <mike__> it seems Im able to use ANY online service that doesnt use port 80
[02:34] <mike__> but thats from my entire home network, not just my kubuntu box
[02:34] <mike__> so i guess that isnt for this channel
[02:34] <intelikey> hi fellows !  i've been hacked.
[02:34] <tekteen> boot up into the nonworking kubuntu. then click Ctrl+ALT+F2. then ...
[02:35] <intelikey> and they left foot prints every where.
[02:35] <tekteen> type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:35] <tekteen> make sure to login first :-)
[02:36] <Gemtech> ok ill try
[02:36] <Gemtech> wish me luck
[02:37] <intelikey> they thought they had me rootkited   heh,   amatures!
[02:37] <tekteen> intelikey: how were you hacked?
[02:38] <intelikey> i think they got in through the irc client
[02:38] <sub[t]rnl> konversation?
[02:38] <tekteen> intelikey: but you have LINUX!?
[02:38] <tekteen> say it is not so
[02:38] <biovore> stupid + linux = dosn't help..
[02:38] <biovore> :-P
[02:38] <tekteen> true
[02:38] <sub[t]rnl> oooer
[02:38] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[02:39] <mike__> well linux tends to filter out the stupid...
[02:39] <biovore> no one can save you from stupid
[02:39] <intelikey> biovore hehhe
[02:39] <tekteen> I am a paranoid security geek
[02:39] <intelikey> biovore well they didn't acomplish anything but access to a user account.
[02:39] <mike__> and how do you know this
[02:39] <biovore> linux is more secure because most people using it know how it works..
[02:40] <sub[t]rnl> user escalation isn't hard in default kubuntu either though
[02:40] <biovore> rgr
[02:40] <sub[t]rnl> few sploits out that can make quick work
[02:40] <biovore> kubuntu is more bleeding edge.. but bleeding edge means bleeding holes :-P
[02:41] <mike__> Why do edges bleed?
[02:41] <mike__> I never understood that expression
[02:41] <mike__> how does an edge bleed
[02:41] <sub[t]rnl> my favorite is the paranoid security *nix user who still has "single" boot option in his menu.lst.  Reboot and own?
[02:41]  * sub[t]rnl sighs
[02:41] <intelikey> i would hope that dapper doesn't mean "bleeding holes"   ;/
[02:41] <tekteen> sub[t]rnl: that is different
[02:41] <tekteen> sub[t]rnl: that is physical attack
[02:41] <mike__> but yeah I just had a really weird problem, it's gone now...  I could use any port but 80
[02:42] <tekteen> for servers we hope that is not a prob
[02:42] <mike__> my mom was on WoW, I was on IRC
[02:42] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl give me hands on, and i own.    so single in the menu means nothing
[02:42] <mike__> restarting the router fixed it.  sign
[02:42] <mike__> sigh*
[02:42] <chuszie> hello everybody.........
[02:42] <tekteen> chuszie: hi
[02:42] <chuszie> hi tek
[02:43] <chuszie> morning
[02:43] <tekteen> night
[02:43] <tekteen> no knight
[02:43] <chuszie> oh sorry
[02:43] <chuszie> it's morning here
[02:43] <intelikey> now i just have to trace this hole down to it's code.   which i probably can't do...
[02:43] <chuszie> where r u, tek?
[02:43] <tekteen> NY, USA
[02:44] <intelikey> chuszie that's spelled  are you
[02:44] <chuszie> oh, i see
[02:44] <tekteen> :-D lol
[02:44] <chuszie> yah inttel??
[02:44] <mike__> What are the advantages of KDE4?
[02:44] <intelikey> yeah.
[02:45] <tekteen> mike__: as of now. none
[02:45] <mike__> I gave it a spin earlier, tasted like Vista
[02:45] <intelikey> mike__ eye candy
[02:45] <tekteen> mike__: except with more features
[02:45] <intelikey> !kde4
[02:45] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[02:45] <tekteen> mike__: and less mem
[02:45] <mike__> less?
[02:46] <Daisuke_Ido> mike__: it uses less memory than vista, yes.
[02:46] <mike__> oh, than VISTA
[02:46] <tekteen> it takes 40% less mem with effects
[02:46] <mike__> I meant the KDE that comes with kubuntu default
[02:46] <Daisuke_Ido> but that's not difficult
[02:46] <Dr_willis_> Of course right now kde4 is still a bit of a work in progress
[02:46] <tekteen> 40% less then kde 3.5
[02:46] <Dr_willis_> :)
[02:46] <mike__> Oh wow
[02:46] <mike__> that's impressive
[02:46] <tekteen> yes
[02:46] <intelikey> speeking of,   i'm using way to much ram for what is running....  Memory Used/Total Percent: 24/377 MB (6%)
[02:47] <intelikey> should be more like half that.
[02:47] <Dr_willis_> 640K is enough for anyone
[02:47] <Dr_willis_> :P
[02:47] <Daisuke_Ido> i can write an app with memory leaks out the wazoo and still come in under vista in terms of memory usage
[02:47] <thecrono> Hey Daisuke_Ido
[02:47] <mike__> A while ago I used Kubuntu, and I had this theme thing installed, I think it was beryl or something and it made things look extra pretty - but I heard beryl died or something
[02:47] <intelikey> Dr_willis_ plus the kernel might be for me...
[02:47] <mike__> and I have a feeling Im thinking of Gnome?
[02:47] <mike__> because I couldnt seem to make emerald or anything work under KDE
[02:48] <tekteen> mike__: it combined with compiz
[02:48] <tekteen> mike__: to become compiz fusion
[02:48] <thecrono> I got a someone what serious problem..when i try to restart my PC..it closes down linux..and jsut ahngs there idle...i have to hold the power button for it to turn off....any idea what is causeing this?
[02:48] <mike__> I see - can it be used in conjunction with kde4?
[02:48] <thecrono> hangs*
[02:48] <intelikey> Dr_willis_ i don't have anything but this irc client running    well and two shells.
[02:48] <tekteen> mike__: yes but it replaces kwin
[02:49] <tekteen> mike__: it can be used with kde 3.5
[02:49] <tekteen> I tried it
[02:49] <Datalanche> Hey guys, this is semi-OT question, but the nvidia channel is totally silent all the time. Does anyone have experience with NVidia's xvmc acceleration using the proprietary driver?
[02:49] <tekteen> I got bored of it
[02:49] <Dr_willis_> intelikey,  cache and cache and cache. :)
[02:49] <Dr_willis_> reduce the # of colwers! lower the res! use a smaller font. :P
[02:50] <[ka]killer> humm the drives still are not mounting on boot
[02:50] <tekteen> [ka]killer: what is the command and error
[02:51] <[ka]killer> there is no command and no error, the drives just dont mount automatically
[02:51] <tekteen> you need to put it in fstab
[02:51] <Daisuke_Ido> are they in your fstab?
[02:51] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, i see tek's ahead of me :\
[02:51] <[ka]killer> i asked you how to do that eariler and you didnt tell me
[02:52] <tekteen> [ka]killer: because that is not what you needed.
[02:52] <intelikey> Dr_willis_ no, i dont think so.   should be more like 12 to 16 meg used but i'm still showing 24m      really there is nothing running,  no daemons except sshd   and it's small foot print is hardly noticable
[02:52] <[ka]killer> -_-
[02:52]  * tekteen has to go. He has an evil mom that sends him to bed at 10
[02:52] <[ka]killer> so how do i edit fstab
[02:52] <thecrono> how ol are you tekteen?
[02:53] <tekteen> !fstab
[02:53] <thecrono> old*
[02:53] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:53] <Dr_willis_> 35 :)
[02:53] <tekteen> thecrono: 15
[02:53] <tekteen> this month
[02:53] <intelikey> Dr_willis_    heh be nice
[02:53] <intelikey> :)
[02:53] <tekteen> bye guys
[02:53]  * Dr_willis_ just turned 40...  Can I fix it?
[02:55] <tekteen> bye
[02:55] <ol_dude67> i like the idea of free sex but hey thats only an my thoughts
[02:55] <sub[t]rnl> maduser➜ mount the drive and install on it
[02:55] <intelikey> maduser lilo ?
[02:56] <Dr_willis_> ol_dude67,  at my age.. i perfer the idea of free time for a nap. :P
[02:56] <intelikey> :)
[02:57]  * intelikey sets ignore on the doctor before he causes me to rupture something laughing
[02:58] <Dr_willis_> Well its time for me to go to work.
[02:58] <Dr_willis_> :(
[02:58] <Dr_willis_> 3rd shift now.
[02:58] <Dr_willis_> bye
[03:00] <[ka]killer> does /dev/sdc1 /mnt/disk reiserfs users,rw,auto 0 0 look right to you?
[03:05] <intelikey> [ka]killer yeah
[03:05] <[ka]killer> k
[03:05] <[ka]killer> 2nd one is the same but sdb1 and disk2
[03:05] <intelikey> [ka]killer make sure the mountpoints exist
[03:05] <[ka]killer> they do
[03:06] <[ka]killer> the drives are mounted right now
[03:06] <intelikey> i can't find where this ram is being eaten up...
[03:06] <[ka]killer> im moving files from one to the other as we speak =P
[03:06] <intelikey> this is perplexing
[03:06] <[ka]killer> you look in the processtable?
[03:07] <intelikey> [ka]killer yeah  have two shells and an irc client running
[03:07] <thecrono> Oh do i get ark to combine 4 .part files and extra?..it keeps trying to do them one at a time.
[03:07] <thecrono> How*
[03:07] <[ka]killer> humm
[03:07] <thecrono> extract*
[03:07] <[ka]killer> what are the shells doing?
[03:07] <thecrono> ..and as a result it gets unexpected end of archive and fails.
[03:07] <intelikey> nothing.
[03:07] <[ka]killer> then why do you have 2 open =/
[03:07] <intelikey> [ka]killer this is normal   Memory Used/Total Percent: 9/123 MB (7%)
[03:08] <[ka]killer> you only have 123mb?
[03:08] <intelikey> this is present.   Memory Used/Total Percent: 23/377 MB (6%)
[03:08] <[ka]killer> humm 23mb of ram isnt bad...
[03:08] <intelikey> [ka]killer yes it is if there is nothing using it.
[03:09] <intelikey> the other box   "with the 128m"  is running almost the same setup right now.
[03:09] <intelikey> look at the difference in usage
[03:09] <[ka]killer> humm
[03:09] <[ka]killer> is the other box using more swap?
[03:09] <intelikey> neither have swap.
[03:09] <[ka]killer> humm
[03:10]  * intelikey doesn't do swap.
[03:10] <[ka]killer> well im running 435,176kb used 80,148kb free...
[03:10] <[ka]killer> wtf
[03:10] <[ka]killer> killing amarok used more mem o_O
[03:10] <intelikey> no  look at the  -/+ buffers line
[03:11] <sub[t]rnl> buffered and cached confuse most
[03:11] <sub[t]rnl> :p
[03:11] <[ka]killer> yah
[03:11] <[ka]killer> i was just watching used and free
[03:11] <[ka]killer> im also using 118,072kb of swap with 1,391,996kb swap free
[03:12] <intelikey> -/+ buffers/cache:          8        114
[03:12] <intelikey> -/+ buffers/cache:         23        353
[03:12] <intelikey> these two boxen.
[03:12] <[ka]killer> where are you watching this
[03:12] <intelikey> command    free
[03:12] <intelikey> well free -m actually
[03:13] <[ka]killer> -/+ buffers/cache:        136        366
[03:13] <[ka]killer> Swap:         1474        115       1359
[03:13] <sub[t]rnl> same number of processes spawned?
[03:13] <sub[t]rnl> one irc client has a larger history cache? :>
[03:13] <TheWhiteRook> Wireless suddenly started working.
[03:13] <TheWhiteRook> for me
[03:13] <[ka]killer> lol
[03:13] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl no but one bash shell doesn't make 15m of ram disapear
[03:14] <TheWhiteRook> Just thought I'd share
[03:14] <sub[t]rnl> intelikey➜ its a rootkit nestled in a binary
[03:14] <[ka]killer> lol
[03:15] <sub[t]rnl> chkrootkit |grep -i infected
[03:15] <sub[t]rnl> !!
[03:15] <biovore> intelikey: first thing first.. whats the md5 of /bin/ps?
[03:15] <TheWhiteRook> viruses in Linux? what?? :P
[03:15] <biovore> not a virus
[03:15] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, that would be the first one thats rooted
[03:15] <sub[t]rnl> ps
[03:15] <biovore> maybe nothing..
[03:15] <biovore> yeah.. I hide a copy of PS on my harddisks :-P
[03:16] <TheWhiteRook> aren't rootkits a kind of virus?
[03:16] <biovore> just because of that..
[03:16] <sub[t]rnl> biovore➜ rofl
[03:16] <sub[t]rnl> smart though
[03:16] <biovore> nope..
[03:16] <TheWhiteRook> oh...
[03:16] <intelikey> biovore i'll give ps a look   i have a backup....
[03:16] <biovore> a71e54a717be90cecfee8bfa2dbace55  /bin/ps
[03:16] <biovore> on kubuntu 386
[03:17] <thecrono> Ark doesn'tknow how to open passworded  .rar files either?
[03:17] <intelikey> yeah ps is not touched.
[03:17] <biovore> yeah.. then you can trust its output
[03:17] <[ka]killer> lol
[03:18] <intelikey> i didn't think they had gained any root access, if they had they would not have left the user account in such a mess....
[03:18] <sub[t]rnl> did they leave a working .bash_history?
[03:18] <biovore> intelikey: sign of a rookie
[03:18] <biovore> pro's leave no trace
[03:18] <intelikey> biovore and of a nosuid system.
[03:19] <intelikey> they couldn't clean up....
[03:19] <biovore> yeah.. they have it setup that way because old script kiddy things don't work..
[03:19] <biovore> but that will probably change..
[03:19] <intelikey> probably
[03:20] <biovore> There are also vunrablilities in some multiverse/universe packages.. (These packages security is tracked fairly loosely)
[03:21] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl no of course they rm'd ~/.bash*    what would you expect from an amiture
[03:21] <sub[t]rnl> just checkin'
[03:21]  * [ka]killer waits for ubuntu to boot back up to see if he edited fstab right
[03:22] <intelikey> [ka]killer you don't have to reboot for that....   sudo mount -a
[03:22] <thecrono> !ark
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <thecrono> :(
[03:22] <intelikey> !info ark
[03:22] <ubotu> ark (source: kdeutils): graphical archiving tool for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 294 kB, installed size 1016 kB
[03:22] <thecrono> !info ark
[03:22] <thecrono> Oh
[03:22] <BluesKaj> interesting  KDE4 for windows & mac ,http://www.techspot.com/news/28714-KDE-4-for-Windows-and-Mac.html
[03:22] <thecrono> Ark has no URL?
[03:23] <thecrono> I can't get it to use .part chains or read apssworded .rar files
[03:23] <ibou> i creates some links forward some repertories with ln -s command on my desktop. But when i use them it opens dolphin. How top open konqueror instead ?
[03:23] <intelikey> i guess i better rm ~/.ssh/  and reset the other box that i have keys for...
[03:24]  * sub[t]rnl tries to decode ibou
[03:24]  * intelikey thinks "duh  that's the first thing to do..."
[03:24] <thecrono> So no one knows this?
[03:24] <ibou> sub[t]rnl:  ?
[03:25] <intelikey> !d3lphin
[03:25] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[03:25] <intelikey> ibou   ^
[03:25] <thecrono> I did that too btw..sitll uses dolphin.
[03:25] <ibou> sweet
[03:26] <ibou> i don't like dolphin
[03:26] <sub[t]rnl> !unrar > thecrono
[03:26] <thecrono> Yeah, its too glitchy and crashy.
[03:27] <thecrono> And refreshes way much much for too long. {if i go into a fodler, it has to refresh about 10 times for 30 seconds before i can do anything.]
[03:27] <sub[t]rnl> for you maybe
[03:27] <regeya> are you talking about the dolphin that ships with gutsy, or the dolphin with the unofficial kde4 debs, or...?
[03:28] <Datalanche> D3lphin has never crashed on me once
[03:28] <thecrono> Kubuntu 7.10 Dolphin
[03:28]  * regeya has noticed nothing terribly annoying about dolphin
[03:28] <thecrono> It runs worse than windows 3.1
[03:28] <sub[t]rnl> heh, thecrono has called quite a few applications that we all run "glitchy"
[03:28] <thecrono> refreshes constantly
[03:28] <sub[t]rnl> its user error
[03:28] <regeya> my only big gripe is that it can't handle ftp urls
[03:28] <ibou> it works ok to me but i dont like the interface
[03:28] <thecrono> how is opening dolphine..then ti messes up..user error?
[03:28] <intelikey> back in a minute.
[03:29] <regeya> thechrono, if you're having a number of apps crash on your machine, you might try running memtest on your machine
[03:29] <sub[t]rnl> how does everyone else run it (and the others you mention) fine, except you?
[03:29] <regeya> meh...the refershing could be due to something else, I suppose
[03:29] <regeya> refreshing even
[03:29] <thecrono> Because theres a problem with mine?
[03:29] <sub[t]rnl> ...
[03:29] <thecrono> Why else? Do you believe all problems are magicly the cause of the user?
[03:29] <regeya> that could be, thechrono, you might try reinstalling the deb
[03:30] <thecrono> deb?
[03:30] <[ka]killer> works =) the share is a bit screwy but i can fix that later
[03:30] <regeya> or there could be a problem with a preference file, I suppose
[03:30] <thecrono> Ive no idea what any of that is :D
[03:30] <regeya> !deb
[03:30] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.
[03:31] <regeya> robot to the rescue
[03:31] <intelikey> hmmm   i don't know where the other ram is going.  but the system seems to be eating 22m   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d10ac9b86
[03:31] <intelikey> Memory Used/Total Percent: 21/377 MB (5%)
[03:32] <thecrono> Also, i already got unrar from apt-get [got rar too]
[03:32] <intelikey> that sure seems like bloat
[03:32] <regeya> if you don't know what a deb is though, thecrono, I might suggest some "boning up" as well as simply using konqueror for now
[03:32] <thecrono> boning up?
[03:32] <regeya> 5% of system ram
[03:32] <regeya> learning, thecrono
[03:32] <regeya> sorry
[03:33] <thecrono> i'm trying to, but things arn't quite working right
[03:34] <intelikey> so all that is left to do is delete the home dir and i'm clean.
[03:34] <thecrono> Is there no Ark website?
[03:35] <sub[t]rnl> intelikey➜ just curious, did you find anything listening for connections at all?
[03:36] <sub[t]rnl> netstat -lnp to check if anything is out of the ordinary
[03:36] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl no  they never gained root access
[03:36] <sub[t]rnl> righto
[03:37] <sub[t]rnl> not sure if its needed though
[03:37] <sub[t]rnl> you can hide a netcat without root
[03:37] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl all they did was messed with a single user account.   that's all they could do without root access,   and this box is not so tight against a single exploit but real tight against going from user to root,    i can't even do that with hands on.
[03:39] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl yeah i did check the ip trafic tho,  there was nothing.
[03:39] <BluesKaj> thecrono, the way that works for me to extract rar files is not to use ark , it fails a lot for some reason , but just to extract inside the folder or "here" ,works.
[03:39]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[03:39] <thecrono> i Right click and hit extract here, and ark laods up, tries to extract, and completely cannot read files with apsswords..and on aprts, it gets to the end of the archive and fails.
[03:39] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, i point wireshark at myself at times just to see if any strange packets are leaving
[03:40] <sub[t]rnl> decent habit
[03:40] <intelikey> indeed
[03:40] <sub[t]rnl> of course, jogging would be a better one
[03:40] <sub[t]rnl> but meh
[03:40] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[03:41] <intelikey> nah.  too cold in the winter and too hot in the sommer
[03:41]  * sub[t]rnl agrees
[03:41] <sub[t]rnl> unrar -p password file
[03:42] <thecrono> let me try that
[03:42] <sub[t]rnl> that could be for setting the pword though
[03:42] <sub[t]rnl> havn't used it for a while, man it
[03:43] <thecrono> herm, how do i get to /root/etc from /home/ in konsole? o.O
[03:43] <sub[t]rnl> cd /root/etc
[03:43] <thecrono> I cannot go back anymroe from /home/
[03:43] <thecrono> ok
[03:44] <sub[t]rnl> thecrono➜ learn to use the tab key while in a terminal, makes life easier
[03:44] <thecrono> no such file or directory
[03:44] <sub[t]rnl> cd /etc/ is probably what you want
[03:44] <sub[t]rnl> directory for universal configurations
[03:46] <sub[t]rnl> learn to use the konsole (terminal) and you'll have an easier time controlling a linux system, regardless of distro or xwindows
[03:47] <thecrono> But the knsole doesn'ttell me anything useualy..like,it asked for the password,i typed it..then it felt like printing out unrar command line functions o.O
[03:47] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, read them
[03:48] <sub[t]rnl> anytime a program spits out something starting with Usage:  its telling you that the syntax wasn't correct
[03:48] <thecrono> I did..but, theres still the problem of it not extracting anything.
[03:49] <thecrono> i didn't know passwords had a syntax
[03:49] <sub[t]rnl> not the password, the syntax to run the program
[03:49] <sub[t]rnl> in this case, unrar
[03:49] <thecrono> yeah,it asked for the .rar password, then asked again, then gave me the 'usage: thing
[03:49] <thecrono> I'm guessing the opassword was wrojng?
[03:49] <sub[t]rnl> right, meaning that you didn't meet the usage standards
[03:50]  * sub[t]rnl whistles
[03:50] <thecrono> Well, crap,if its not what i think it is i'm doomed.
[03:50] <sub[t]rnl> its ok, take your time, you need a little more "milage" using linux
[03:51] <thecrono> Also, it doesn't list what '-p ' is for.
[03:52] <sub[t]rnl> heh, try -> unrar e whatever.rar
[03:52] <thecrono> AH..there we go
[03:53] <sub[t]rnl> if you need help running a command, try command --help  ex.. unrar --help, or you can, man unrar
[03:53] <sub[t]rnl> it will always tell you how to use it.
[03:53] <thecrono> I didn't think 'e' was required
[03:53] <BluesKaj> !unrar | thecrono
[03:53] <ubotu> thecrono: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:53] <sub[t]rnl> e is for extract,
[03:53] <thecrono> wouldn't unrar whatever.rar extract by default?
[03:53] <sub[t]rnl> try it
[03:54] <sub[t]rnl> then you'll know!
[03:54] <thecrono> i did, it does nothing :D
[03:54] <BluesKaj> you have to install unrar to make it an option :)
[03:54] <thecrono> Ugh, now i extracted it, put ti said could not copy anything, permission denied
[03:54] <thecrono> It is installed
[03:54] <sub[t]rnl> BluesKaj➜ he's got it
[03:54]  * genii hands out more coffees
[03:55] <intelikey> genii i'm buying
[03:55] <thecrono> and adding a . automaticly makes a file hidden yes?
[03:55] <sub[t]rnl> woot
[03:55] <BluesKaj> yeah, but he j=has to "use" it under the action option in the dialog
[03:55] <genii> intelikey: :)
[03:55] <sub[t]rnl> thecrono➜ yep
[03:55] <thecrono> ok
[03:56] <BluesKaj> thx genii, but I need to sleep tonite :)
[03:56] <thecrono> I had a folder called something ...i added a . to it and it became a file o.O
[03:56] <gtt> can anyone recommend a good tutorial on setting up ssh and X11 forwarding
[03:56] <genii> BluesKaj: I understand
[03:56] <thecrono> it was .something
[03:56] <thecrono> i tried to go into it and it said .somethign is a file, a folder was expected
[03:56] <sub[t]rnl> gtt➜ http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ssh.html
[03:57] <intelikey> gtt   sudo apt-get install ssh    and  that doc ^
[03:58] <intelikey> gtt the kcontrol i think will give you the config for x11 forwarding,   i actually did that one time.
[03:58] <thecrono> is there a rpogram than can mass rename files in a directory to like 1,2,3,4,5..etc?
[03:58] <intelikey> it's in the kdm settings isn't it ?    someone that's more familear with it ?
[03:59] <gtt> thanks for ya'lls help
[03:59] <sub[t]rnl> thecrono➜ use "for" in bash works
[03:59] <sub[t]rnl> but thats scripting
[04:00] <gtt> kfilerename right?
[04:00] <thecrono> unrar completely ignored subdirecotries..and threw everything into one folder
[04:00] <intelikey> thecrono      N=0 ;for Q in /path/* ;do mv $Q $N$Q ;N=$(($N + 1)) ;done
[04:00] <thecrono> lots of files were named the same
[04:00] <sub[t]rnl> !info kfilereplace
[04:00] <ubotu> kfilereplace (source: kdewebdev): batch search-and-replace component for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 626 kB, installed size 1256 kB
[04:00] <BluesKaj> sacktime ...nite folks
[04:00] <sub[t]rnl> c yas blue
[04:00] <intelikey> might need to quote that if there are spaces in the names
[04:01] <thecrono> paste that into knsole?
[04:01] <intelikey> thecrono      N=0 ;for Q in /path/* ;do mv "$Q" "$N$Q" ;N=$(($N + 1)) ;done
[04:01] <intelikey> like that    ^
[04:01] <thecrono> what langauge is that?
[04:01] <intelikey> shell
[04:01] <sub[t]rnl> bash
[04:01] <thecrono> o
[04:02] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl umm yes bash but not bash specific.  any posix shell should work.
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> shell it is!
[04:02]  * intelikey likes "dash"
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> ooer
[04:02] <thecrono> cannot state '/path/*'
[04:03] <thecrono> i replaced it with the path fo the folder
[04:03] <thecrono> same error
[04:03] <thecrono> the path of the folder with the files goes there yes?
[04:03] <intelikey> thecrono cause you are supposed to interpret /path/    i don't know where they are, you do.
[04:03] <intelikey> yes
[04:03] <intelikey> don't forget the * tho   it's important.
[04:05] <thecrono> /root/etc/MSL/* no such file or directory but that is where the files are
[04:05] <thecrono> directory , but
[04:05] <sub[t]rnl>  /root/etc?
[04:05] <intelikey> ???  /root/etc/  ?
[04:06] <thecrono> is there something before /root/?
[04:06] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl jinks.
[04:06]  * sub[t]rnl snaps
[04:06]  * genii ponders why: mv --force --backup=t * .                    doesn't work
[04:06] <thecrono> Screw it i'll just leave them.
[04:06] <intelikey> genii because of the path ?     idk.
[04:07] <Datalanche> hmmm
[04:07]  * genii krazy glues sub[t]rnl back together
[04:07] <sub[t]rnl> :D
[04:08]  * Datalanche eats /root/
[04:09] <intelikey> genii   you do see the vast differance in mv --force --backup=t * . <<< and >>> N=0 ;for Q in /path/* ;do mv $Q $N$Q ;N=$(($N + 1)) ;done  <<< that  don't you ?
[04:10] <intelikey> never mind the fact that i pasted the unquoted one...
[04:11] <genii> intelikey: Yes :)
[04:11] <intelikey> ok.
[04:13] <genii> intelikey: But where this a file named aa I still wonder why it won't make aa into aa1 then dumbly follow exact instructions and move aa to aa in the CWD
[04:14] <genii> or so
[04:17] <thecrono> !wmv
[04:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:19] <intelikey> genii i failed to get it to work,   but my for loop does work.   plus the number progress which the more i think about it, i'm not sure he actually wanted it to progress.
[04:19] <intelikey> anyway i'm finished for the day.
[04:20] <RAiSNiX> hey every 1
[04:20] <genii> intelikey: Have a good one then, see you another time
[04:20] <RAiSNiX> Can someone PLEASE help me ?
[04:20] <genii> !ask
[04:20] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[04:20] <intelikey> genii Shalom Aleichem
[04:21] <awag> hello
[04:21] <RAiSNiX> Ok i gotta major head ache with windows so i killed it forever and put in Ubuntu then changed to Kubuntu.... I am having problems with instaling programs for some reason even if i follow the examples exactly it STILL dont work
[04:22] <awag> my kubuntu 7.10 system has been having full system freezes for a while now
[04:22] <awag> and i'm not sure why
[04:22] <thecrono> are you trying to install windows programs?
[04:22] <RAiSNiX> no nothing as yet
[04:22] <thecrono> then what's not working?
[04:23] <genii> RAiSNiX: Are you using the package manager or trying to install some other way. If some other way please elaborate
[04:23] <RAiSNiX> i have also allowed linux to install my printer but it doesnt print for some reason and when my gf uses the printer with her Laptop windows it works fine
[04:23] <RAiSNiX> i have tried both ways and it doenst seem to work, but i am a total noob
[04:24] <RAiSNiX> i REALLY REALLY dont wanna go back to windows
[04:24] <maduser> zhen go
[04:25] <genii> RAiSNiX: Please open the program Konsole, then type in:  sudo apt-get update                                then tell me if it says anything informative. Don't paste a bunch of lines here, just tell some synopsis.
[04:25] <RAiSNiX> ok
[04:26] <genii> RAiSNiX: If it asks for password, put in the one you normally use
[04:26] <RAiSNiX> so far seems to be updating
[04:28] <RAiSNiX> is it just updating my whole system ?
[04:28] <thecrono> does kubuntu have an app for manaing USB controllers [ps2 joystick]
[04:28] <thecrono> managing*
[04:28] <apparle> Can I change the icon of KMENU displayed on taskbar
[04:28] <genii> RAiSNiX: Good.
[04:29] <genii> RAiSNiX: No, it is not installing anything. It is just collecting a list of programs that you can later choose to install if you like.
[04:29] <RAiSNiX> ok its done
[04:29] <RAiSNiX> ah ok
[04:29] <RAiSNiX> ok can i install a flash player easily enough now ?
[04:30] <genii> RAiSNiX: One thing at a tie please
[04:30] <genii> *time
[04:30] <RAiSNiX> ok sorry
[04:31]  * sub[t]rnl passes the advil back to genii
[04:31] <genii> RAiSNiX: Kmenu button ...Add/Remove Programs   it asks for password, put the usual one....... then you should see after it finishes thinking the things you can choose to install
[04:32] <genii> RAiSNiX: Since right now the flash player has a problem, the question you asked of how to install it is a special case
[04:32] <RAiSNiX> ok
[04:33] <RAiSNiX> its very hard to get used to the changes but im just too new
[04:34] <batis610> firefox freeze for a whiile and became very slow when i open more than 5 tabs... how can i fix this?
[04:34] <genii> RAiSNiX: We were all newbies once :)
[04:34] <regeya> I can't make fun of newbies, as I recently tried out kde4.
[04:35] <regeya> so many changes
[04:35] <thecrono> !controller
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about controller - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <thecrono> !usb
[04:35] <ubotu> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[04:35] <genii> sub[t]rnl: Thanks by the way, I may need those advil ;)
[04:35] <thecrono> :(
[04:35] <RAiSNiX> i have been trying to ask any1 that can help me with Linux but every1 seems to be brainwashed with windows and no one could help me until i finally found you guys
[04:36] <apparle> RAiSNiX: Same with me also
[04:36] <thecrono> heh, i felt that way too
[04:37] <RAiSNiX> they should ban windows
[04:37] <RAiSNiX> i hate Bill Gate
[04:37] <stephen_> no need to be a fanboy
[04:37] <RAiSNiX> Im gunna join the "i hate Bill Gates Fan Club"
[04:37] <thecrono> if they banned windows, there would be no software left in the world
[04:37] <genii> RAiSNiX: So you see now the usual way to install programs in kubuntu. There are some times when tinkering in Konsole is needed, but for the most part the applications are in the Adept program there.
[04:37] <genii> !flash
[04:37] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:37] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[04:38] <RAiSNiX> cool... I am downloading some flash player now and im hoping that it will work
[04:38] <thecrono> Dangit..unrar still cannot seem to relize that there is a part2.rar
[04:38] <thecrono> and i seen no options pertaining to split archives
[04:38] <genii> RAiSNiX: The second link the bot gives there  is the special case of install I spoke of, since right now the usual way is broken
[04:39] <thecrono> it seems unrar cannot handle split archives..
[04:39] <RAiSNiX> ok i should stop downloading it then yeh ?
[04:39] <sub[t]rnl> apparle➜ might want to look in /usr/share/icons/default.kde/respective_size/app/kmenu.png if you want to play with the icon btw
[04:40] <genii> RAiSNiX: Yes.
[04:40] <thecrono> And no one in the world of linux, nor google knows :(
[04:41] <se7en> thecrono: use ark to unrar split archives
[04:41] <thecrono> ark doesn't know how
[04:41] <thecrono> ive tried quintuple times
[04:42] <thecrono> it always gets done with part1..then i get a crc error
[04:42] <genii> thecrono: As i undrstand rar would be something like name.rar name.001 name.002                   for a single archive. so if you had part2.rar that would be the start of a second rar sequence and not a continuation of for instance part1.rar
[04:42] <sub[t]rnl> thecrono➜ rar x /path/to/file.part01.rar -w~ ~
[04:42] <thecrono> unexpected end of archive
[04:42] <sub[t]rnl> thecrono➜ that will extract them all to your home directory
[04:42] <thecrono> tired that too, said no such file or directory exists
[04:42] <se7en> did you install unrar-non-free or even better kubuntu-restricted-extras thecrono
[04:43] <thecrono> i installed unrar and rar
[04:43] <se7en> !kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:43] <se7en> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:43] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[04:43] <thecrono> apt-get install rar and apt-get install unrar
[04:44] <thecrono> getting that now
[04:44] <apparle> can I change the icon of Kmenu
[04:44] <sub[t]rnl> rar x /path/to/file.part01.rar -w~ ~
[04:44] <sub[t]rnl> make sure your putting in the correct path and filename
[04:46] <thecrono> !joystick
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joystick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <RAiSNiX> Hmm ok im kind of lost i dont know how to dload the flashplayer :\ sorry
[04:47] <batis610> firefox freeze for a whiile and became very slow when i open more than 5 tabs... how can i fix this?
[04:50] <hydrogen> don't use firefox..
[04:50]  * sub[t]rnl laughs
[04:53] <apparle> which is the best media player for kubuntu
[04:53] <genii> apparle: That is a matter of some debate
[04:54] <apparle> what's ur suggestion
[04:55] <vincent_> Hello all
[04:55]  * se7en loves amarok and kaffeine
[04:55] <hydrogen> !media | apparle
[04:55] <ubotu> apparle: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[04:55]  * hydrogen wonders why codeine doesn't get love in the video player section
[04:55]  * sub[t]rnl <3 mplayer and all the front ends that use it
[04:56] <hydrogen> not i
[04:56] <vincent_> If im using AMD64, is there any way i can use i386 programs?
[04:56] <vincent_> such as opera?
[04:57] <sub[t]rnl> yes, you can use 32bit applications
[04:57] <vincent_> when i go to use them though, it says i have the wrong archetecture
[04:58] <apparle> I also like amarok and kaffiene but they seem to play some wav files and mov files in parts and not smoothly
[04:58] <vincent_> is there any way to correct that problem sub[t]rnl?
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> isnt there a 64 bit opera?
[04:59] <vincent_> neg, none i could see
[04:59] <apparle> vincent_: maybe you are supposed to install some library like ia32lib
[04:59] <thecrono> !bochs
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bochs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <vincent_> but there have been a few 32 bit programs i really want to get, such as the bloody Kopete fix
[04:59] <vincent_> thanks apparle, ill give it a try
[05:00] <vincent_> ^^ is that what its called?
[05:01] <vincent_> !opera
[05:01] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:03] <sub[t]rnl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=413040 looks helpful
[05:05] <vincent_> ahh thanks sub[t]rnl, i owe you one
[05:05] <sub[t]rnl> anytime
[05:06] <vincent_> so that looks like it does install those 32 bit libs, so i might even be able to use my other 32 bit programs?
[05:07] <sub[t]rnl> not too sure
[05:07] <apparle> why does xine engine play some wav and mov files in steps
[05:07] <vincent_> everything ive found has a 64 anyway, except the Kopete fix
[05:09] <till> !flex++
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flex++ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <till_> hm. I can't find flex++ parser in (k)ubuntu. nay ideas where to get .deb?
[05:10] <apparle> what to do to play wav files smoothly. Kaffiene and amarok play them in steps
[05:10] <till_> *any
[05:11] <genii_> Bah, ghosted
[05:12] <genii_> /msg nickserv ghost genii sip@coffee
[05:12] <genii_> hmm
[05:13] <apparle> bye
[05:14] <genii> sub[t]rnl: Done :)
[05:15] <genii> Darn, RAiSNiX left, I put up the deb he needed for flash too at one of my workplace webservers
[05:15] <sub[t]rnl> :(
[05:17] <sub[t]rnl> !info bison++
[05:17] <ubotu> bison++ (source: bison++): Generate a parser in c or c++ from BNF notation. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.21.11-3 (gutsy), package size 365 kB, installed size 604 kB
[05:18] <thecrono> --help is an illegal option?
[05:19] <thecrono> sh -help also doesn't work
[05:19] <sub[t]rnl> man sh
[05:20] <thecrono> Hrm, don't i use sh inconjuction with .ta.bz2?
[05:20] <thecrono> tar.bz2*
[05:20] <sub[t]rnl> tar -jxvf file.bz2
[05:21] <thecrono> its file.tar.bz2
[05:21] <thecrono> same thign anyways?
[05:23] <sub[t]rnl> yup yup
[05:34] <thecrono> what is the best thing to do if alot of stuff crashes constantly?
[05:34] <thecrono> i just got mupen, and it also has crashed twice already
[05:34] <thecrono> and become unresponciove several times
[05:34] <thecrono> this is the same for many other programs
[05:38] <thecrono> I tell you, windows 98 runs better than Kubuntu right now. :/
[05:39] <firecrotch> thecrono:  I would look at log files (specifically /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/messages) to see if I could figure out WHY this is happening
[05:40] <thecrono> i wouldn't know..ive had linux 2 days
[05:41] <thecrono> I think i'ma jsut reinstall XP
[05:41] <thecrono> Because this is bad.
[05:41] <DaveDorm> what!
[05:41] <firecrotch> thecrono:  When you say that stuff crashes, what do you mean? Does it just become unresponsive? or what?
[05:41] <DaveDorm> blasphemer!
[05:41] <thecrono> unresponsive yes
[05:42] <thecrono> 90% of everything i run
[05:42] <thecrono> eventually goes unresponsive
[05:42] <DaveDorm> thecrono: what are you having problems with specifically?
[05:42] <DaveDorm> what apps?
[05:42] <firecrotch> thecrono:  What are the specs of your computer?
[05:42] <thecrono> right now, it was Mupen64...but i was also trying to run stuff in wine, all that went dead, and dolphin breaks/unresponds often aswell
[05:42] <thecrono> 2.5ghz processor, 1.5gb ram
[05:43] <thecrono> firefox freezes alot also
[05:43] <DaveDorm> well... that may be part of it... WINE is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination
[05:43] <thecrono> I thought it was my video driver, but that proved to be untrue
[05:43] <firecrotch> Neither is mupen
[05:44] <DaveDorm> you should try to find Linux apps to replace your WinAddiction
[05:44] <thecrono> mupen was that..and it didn't work lol
[05:44] <DaveDorm> what is mupen?
[05:44] <thecrono> n64 emulator
[05:44] <DaveDorm> emulators are also not considered "stable" programs
[05:45] <thecrono> i know, but crashing on first use, and becomign unresponsive consecutivly
[05:45] <thecrono> man, ive not even tried fruityloops in wine yet :O
[05:45] <thecrono> that will probably esplode my pc
[05:45] <DaveDorm> yeah, I get that it's frustrating. to be honest, if you are looking for gaming, Linux may not be for you
[05:46] <firecrotch> thecrono: are there any other specific programs that you're having this issue with?
[05:46] <thecrono> nto really
[05:46] <thecrono> probably dave
[05:46] <thecrono> i tried ubuntu 5.10 two years ago, and eventually left
[05:46] <firecrotch> thecrono: do you use Pidgin for instant messaging, by chance?
[05:47] <thecrono> um no..i have kopete though
[05:47] <thecrono> i use msn
[05:47] <thecrono> on there
[05:47] <DaveDorm> I try to be as positive as possible in my Linux evangalism, but Linux can't compete with Windows in the game market until they get their hands out of BillG's pants
[05:48] <DaveDorm> firecrotch: I use Pidgin usually... but it looks like crap on KDE4
[05:48] <thecrono> what gets me is why everyone else in the universe seems to run things fine
[05:48] <firecrotch> thecrono: I'm thinking the issue may be related to GTK programs (firefox and mupen both rely on gtk)
[05:48] <thecrono> i don't have gtk
[05:48] <DaveDorm> firecrotch: yeah, you may be onto something
[05:48] <firecrotch> DaveDorm: That's because, from what I've noticed, the gtk theming in KDE4 sucks
[05:48] <thecrono> i was trying to figure out how to get it earlyer
[05:49] <firecrotch> thecrono:  If you installed mupen and firefox using the package manager, it would have been installed automatically
[05:49] <DaveDorm> firecrotch: yeah, I am having an issue now with Pidgin... and TheGIMP did not look right, either
[05:49] <thecrono> i installed mupen manually
[05:49] <thecrono> as i did with firefox
[05:49] <DaveDorm> http://davedorm.com/temp/dorm2.jpg
[05:50] <firecrotch> thecrono: use the package manager (Add/Remove Programs) to install Firefox
[05:50] <firecrotch> and ding ding ding, we have found the source of the problem :)
[05:51] <DaveDorm> thecrono: yeah man... you probably missed some dependencies
[05:51] <mueslix> firecrotch: the gtk themeing in kde4?
[05:51] <thecrono> i don't know though, winxp is a pain in the butt to install..so i may stick with kubuntu
[05:51] <DaveDorm> thecrono: unless by "installing" you mean you COMPILED it
[05:51] <thecrono> or i may break out and duel boot
[05:52] <firecrotch> mueslix:  Yeah, KDE tries to apply whatever options you set for KDE to GTK apps when you run them in KDE
[05:52] <mueslix> nah
[05:52] <firecrotch> mueslix: Or at least, it's an option in KDE3
[05:52] <mueslix> that's bollocks
[05:52] <mueslix> :)
[05:52] <mueslix> there a gtk-qt engine for qt3 styles
[05:52] <mueslix> +was
[05:52] <mueslix> but that got nothing to do with kde really
[05:53] <firecrotch> Qt, KDE, same thing :)
[05:53] <mueslix> rrrright
[05:53] <mueslix> mfc, windows, same thing?
[05:54] <firecrotch> Can't have KDE without Qt, can't have windows without MFC
[05:54] <thecrono> MFC?
[05:55] <firecrotch> Microsoft Foundation Class library
[05:59] <mueslix> i don't think much of windows itself depends on mfc
[05:59] <mueslix> it's mostly winapi32
[05:59] <mueslix> but that's nitpicking now
[05:59] <mueslix> i just wanted to mention that the gtk engine was never part of kde or had anything to do with kde itself
[06:00] <thecrono> yeah, i may jsut go to windows,i mean,if my two main activities require windows...why do i need linux? o.O
[06:00] <thecrono> maby in two more years stuff will be better
[06:00] <mueslix> so what are your main activities?
[06:00] <thecrono> games/music
[06:00] <thecrono> producing music
[06:00] <mueslix> not sure windows is better for music
[06:00] <mueslix> but yeah
[06:00] <firecrotch> mueslix:  Well, thanks for pointing that out.  I now know that it's these guys (http://gtk-qt.ecs.soton.ac.uk/) who do that :)
[06:00] <mueslix> at least not that much worse
[06:00] <mueslix> just stick with it
[06:01] <thecrono> if i can't run fruityloops well
[06:01] <thecrono> there goes music all together :(
[06:01] <thecrono> and so for no game has worked
[06:02] <mueslix> you want a mac ;-)
[06:02] <thecrono> oh god no
[06:02] <thecrono> windows 95 > any mac
[06:02] <mueslix> you just don't know it yet, that's ok
[06:03] <thecrono> well, i didn't get linux because i had a problem with windows..i got it because i wanted to use something new
[06:03] <ForgeAus> lol mueslix
[06:03] <ForgeAus> I don't have problems with any of them I'm an equal opportunity OS enthusiast :)
[06:03] <mueslix> well if your attitude is "win 95 > any mac", then sorry... i don't think there's anything new that is exactly like windows. which is what you actually want it seems
[06:04] <ForgeAus> of course I should modify that to GUI OS enthusiast :)
[06:04] <ForgeAus> mueslix I think his knowledge of the mac world is just out of date thats all
[06:04] <mueslix> i agree, the entire argument is really silly
[06:04] <thecrono> No, its jsut, what doesn't work on linux, won't work on mac either.
[06:04] <mueslix> i don't drive a ferrari to go shopping and i don't go racing with my land rover
[06:05] <mueslix> no it's just, where the hell did you hear that brainfart?
[06:05] <firecrotch> thecrono: that's not necessarily true.
[06:05] <ForgeAus> crono, no aqua apps work on linux, (aside from illegal virtualization)
[06:05] <ForgeAus> aqua apps is where its at I guess...
[06:05] <thecrono> what is an aqua app?
[06:05] <ForgeAus> you can always get opendarwin
[06:05] <mueslix> hahaha
[06:05] <ForgeAus> Aqua is MacOSX's gui interface
[06:05] <mueslix> ok
[06:05] <mueslix> nuf for now, i stick to my rules
[06:06] <ForgeAus> Darwin is the actual operating system that underlies it (which is a flavour of BSD)
[06:06] <mueslix> Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
[06:06] <thecrono> Hrm, my computer doesn't have a flopp drive..and my winxp cd isn't bootable
[06:06] <ForgeAus> so in a way it has similar roots to linux if you go far enough back lol
[06:07] <ForgeAus> your XPCD doesn't boot?
[06:07] <ForgeAus> then its not a legal copy of XP!
[06:07] <thecrono> i don't suppose its possiable to install windowxp onto a ntfs partition
[06:07] <vincent_> hehe ive never actually SEEN a legal XP
[06:07] <ForgeAus> of course a PXE XP would probably be handty for you
[06:07] <thecrono> PXE?
[06:07] <vincent_> im pretty sure it is thecrono
[06:07] <ForgeAus> actually XP can ONLY be installed into an NTFS (or FAT32) partition
[06:07] <vincent_> isnt ntfs windows' standard format?
[06:08] <mueslix> vincent_: yeah of course it is
[06:08] <thecrono> not via linux it can't..can it?
[06:08] <vincent_> probably not..
[06:08] <ForgeAus> hmm I wonder if you can use HPFS for XP? lol that would be fun to mess with
[06:08] <mueslix> you want to install xp via linux?
[06:08] <vincent_> but you should be able to boot into it, ive nevert seen a winxp that isnt bootable
[06:08] <ForgeAus> I know you can get an ifs for it, but bootup?
[06:08] <thecrono> i have no other choice
[06:08] <mueslix> newsflash: thecrono is actually a chat bot
[06:08] <thecrono> xpcd doesn't boot
[06:09] <thecrono> this is a real stinker
[06:09] <vincent_> any of you gentlemen know how id go about installing a 32 bit app on a 64 distro?
[06:09] <vincent_> you can probably dl an image of a startup disk thecrono
[06:09] <mueslix> vincent_: as long as you got the 32bit userland stuff (libc e.g.) it should be fine, iirc
[06:09] <thecrono> then i gotta deal with drivers too
[06:09] <thecrono> ugh
[06:10] <vincent_> but when i go to install a deb package it says its the wrong architecture
[06:10] <vincent_> or am i still missing 32b packages muesli?
[06:10] <thecrono> this is going to be a pain in the arse
[06:10] <firecrotch> precisely why people hate reinstalling Windows :)
[06:10] <thecrono> they didn't send an xpcd with my PC
[06:10] <thecrono> it was a dell
[06:10] <mueslix> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/534
[06:10] <mueslix> vincent_: maybe it helps
[06:10] <thecrono> infatc, they sent no cd what so ever
[06:10] <ForgeAus> vincent either his bios is messed up, or his XPCD isn't genuine
[06:11] <thecrono> its not genuine
[06:11] <vincent_> ohh bless you mueslix
[06:11] <vincent_> :D
[06:11] <thecrono> i made it myself
[06:11] <firecrotch> thecrono:  Then there should be a restore partition on your hard drive
[06:11] <vincent_> yeh crono, do a search, what internet do you have?
[06:11] <vincent_> coz youd be best of just dling the image
[06:11] <ForgeAus> thecrono you can get a copy of the media for free basically if you have a valid licence for XP
[06:11] <thecrono> what itnernet?..comcast?
[06:11] <ForgeAus> just ring Microsoft...
[06:11] <firecrotch> Or Dell
[06:12] <thecrono> dell send my a pc with no cds or anything liol
[06:12] <ForgeAus> the licence is the key, once you got that your in the door...
[06:12] <thecrono> just the pc in a box with white foam balls
[06:12] <ForgeAus> thecrono sounds like that should be illegal to do, not certain if it actually is tho
[06:13] <ForgeAus> maybe you should be more careful about what you spend your money on?
[06:13] <thecrono> lol
[06:13] <ForgeAus> sometimes theres a reason why things come cheap
[06:13] <firecrotch> Microsoft couldn't care less how you install XP - whether it's from a genuine XP CD or not, as long as you have a valid key
[06:13] <vincent_> aww if we had money we wouldnt be using linux ;)
[06:13] <ForgeAus> exactly firecrotch
[06:13] <thecrono> they should invent a way to run two OS at the same time..that would make life easyer
[06:13] <ForgeAus> as long as they got their money they're happy to help you any way you want...
[06:13] <mueslix> vincent_: no, we'd be pouring gin & guice with our bitches
[06:14] <ForgeAus> you can crono
[06:14] <firecrotch> thecrono:  If you call or email Dell, they will send you a restore CD for your computer, for free, which will restore it to just as if you opened the box
[06:14] <thecrono> without having to reboot to switch>?
[06:14] <ForgeAus> theres several ways of running multiple OS's concurrently
[06:14] <mueslix> thecrono: it's called virtualization and it exists
[06:14] <vincent_> lol mueslix
[06:14] <thecrono> :O how?
[06:14] <mueslix> either as software
[06:14] <ForgeAus> theres A) emulation, B) Virtualization C) software layers
[06:14] <mueslix> or even built into the process
[06:14] <mueslix> processor even
[06:14] <thecrono> if i could simply switch between kubuntu and linux on the fly this wouldn't be a problem
[06:15]  * vincent_ rocks out to the best solo ever written
[06:15] <brmassa> guys, anyone knows how to stop konqueror from searching a word on strigi everytime i click with the middle button on a html page?
[06:15] <ForgeAus> A) is for programs like Executor and UAE, etc...
[06:15] <mueslix> i told you guys
[06:15] <mueslix> he's either a chat bot or really pissed
[06:15] <ForgeAus> B) is for Virtualbox, VMware, qemu, etc...
[06:15] <brmassa> guys, anyone knows how to stop KONQUERORkonqueror from searching a word on strigi everytime i click with the middle button on a html page?
[06:15] <brmassa> ops
[06:15] <ForgeAus> and C) is for well... Wine I guess ...
[06:15] <thecrono> how do i do it? heh
[06:15] <thecrono> how does this work? to be specific
[06:15] <vincent_> lol brmassa its a pain in the arse ey
[06:16] <mueslix> thecrono: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=intel+vanderpool&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[06:16] <thecrono> wouldn't switching between kubuntu/winxp require a reboot?
[06:16] <ForgeAus> Thecrono get qemu (takes some work that way so you might need a frontend or some reading up)
[06:16] <mueslix> thecrono: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=v1F&q=vmware&btnG=Search&meta=
[06:16] <ForgeAus> or Virtualbox (or vmware)
[06:16] <mueslix> thecrono: no, they actually run at the same time
[06:16] <ForgeAus> yes... you can use it to run another os inside a window
[06:16] <mueslix> that's why it's called virtualization. it's running on a virtual pc which runs on a real pc
[06:16] <thecrono> so you can like...uh, 'alt-tab' between them [you know what i mean]
[06:16] <ForgeAus> you can even use network communication between them
[06:16] <firecrotch> I don't think virtualization would be a good solution either though for him, considering that he uses windows for gaming
[06:17] <brmassa> vincent_: there is no solution for this?
[06:17] <ForgeAus> thecrono you can do this in EITHER XP OR Linux
[06:17] <ForgeAus> firecrotch I agree
[06:17] <vincent_> brmassa: there is one, i think, but i havent used ti yet
[06:17] <mueslix> firecrotch: not necessarily true. if it's abstracted on the hardware layer and no other virtualizations are active, you barely lose any power
[06:17] <vincent_> brmassa: im sure that you can just change the mapped keys
[06:17] <ForgeAus> actually I think he'd be better off virtualizing Linux from within XP for his purposes
[06:17] <thecrono> does virtualization actually work..or is it somethign i shouldn't expect to be bugfree
[06:18] <thecrono> yeah, i only want linux to learn coding on the side
[06:18] <ForgeAus> um not sure what oyu mean by bugfree exactly but it should work for most purposes
[06:18] <mueslix> it's virtually bugfree
[06:18] <thecrono> was going to start python
[06:18] <mueslix> (haha)
[06:18] <vincent_> well friends, im off to play warcraft 3
[06:18] <vincent_> gg all, cya
[06:18] <thecrono> what better way to do python than on a os for of opensource stuff
[06:18] <firecrotch> thecrono: you don't need linux to learn python
[06:18] <thecrono> full of*
[06:18] <ForgeAus> I did have a major crash using virtualization once but that was mostly my fault the virtualization issue just complicated the matter thats all
[06:19] <ForgeAus> you can get Python for virtually every platform anyway
[06:19] <thecrono> i think i'll just reinstall XP :(
[06:19] <thecrono> but omg it will be a pain in the BUT
[06:19] <mueslix> so who's running kde4 already in here? (no i'm not going to ask questions, i'm just statistically puzzled)
[06:19] <thecrono> i better get all my drivers now
[06:19] <ForgeAus> I'm a real fan of this andlinux
[06:20] <ForgeAus> you can even integrate kde apps into your windows environment with it!
[06:20] <firecrotch> mueslix, I've been flip-flopping back and forth between KDE3 and 4
[06:20] <thecrono> you can get kde for windows?
[06:20] <ForgeAus> yes
[06:20] <thecrono> :O
[06:20] <ForgeAus> kde4win
[06:20] <ForgeAus> native
[06:20] <DaveDorm> mueslix: I installed it last night
[06:20] <thecrono> no oen tells me this stuff before hand
[06:20] <firecrotch> DaveDorm:  Does it run well?
[06:20] <ForgeAus> but I wouldn't suggest it necessarily
[06:20] <mueslix> are you guys "just users"
[06:20] <DaveDorm> ForgeAus: wha? kde4win?
[06:20] <mueslix> ?
[06:21] <ForgeAus> yes Dave
[06:21] <thecrono> i'm ;just a user'
[06:21] <thecrono> i think
[06:21] <ForgeAus> there used to be just a cygwin installer, but now theres a full on kde installer
[06:21] <DaveDorm> mueslix: yeah, I consider myself a "power user" I am also a PC tech and do help desk stuff by trade
[06:21] <DaveDorm> ForgeAus: awesome
[06:21] <ForgeAus> inside windows it makes a /kde directory and you run kde apps from there
[06:21] <DaveDorm> ForgeAus: I'll have to look into that for work
[06:21] <ForgeAus> mostly Konqi, Kpat, etc...
[06:21] <thecrono> heh, do they have a linux emulator for windows?
[06:22] <ForgeAus> I don't know if theres a desktop
[06:22] <ForgeAus> thecrono theres several ways of using linux environments under windows
[06:22] <ForgeAus> many are subsystems
[06:22] <thecrono> if i used linux under windows, i can leanr linux, and still do my other stuff
[06:22] <ForgeAus> like cygwin or interix (Microsoft Services for Unix)
[06:22] <DaveDorm> thecrono: yes... there is
[06:22] <thecrono> is it possiable to use kubuntu specificly , under windows?
[06:23] <DaveDorm> thecrono: I can't remember the name of it though, crap
[06:23] <mueslix> sorry guys, i get the cringes again
[06:23] <ForgeAus> cygwin even comes with an X-server built in
[06:23] <mueslix> that's not linux
[06:23] <mueslix> and it's not running linux
[06:23] <mueslix> it's merely a gnu toolchain
[06:23] <ForgeAus> mueslix, true
[06:23] <mueslix> + bash
[06:23] <mueslix> and a few tools
[06:23] <thecrono> i know, that's why i asked if there was a linux emulator
[06:23] <mueslix> having said that, yes it sounds like what thecrono wants
[06:23] <thecrono> for winxp
[06:23] <mueslix> thecrono: vmware
[06:23] <ForgeAus> virtualization is the BEST way it seems to get linux under windows although andLinux is good
[06:24] <thecrono> but,will linux need its own partition?
[06:24] <ForgeAus> (I think andLinux falls more under emulation than virtualization
[06:24] <thecrono> you see, i got an 80gb hard drive..and i fill it fast
[06:24] <mueslix> thecrono: you can tell vmware to use a flat file if you run windows on ntfs
[06:25] <thecrono> when i said linux emulator..i mean like..wine, but for windows
[06:25] <ForgeAus> theres a proggy on sourceforge called keow meaning kernel emulation for windows can run some linux binaries in windows but thats mostly still in development and also mostly analogous to wine
[06:25] <ForgeAus> lol thecrono
[06:25] <ForgeAus> interesting timing
[06:25] <ForgeAus> AndLinux has the best cohesion I've seen yet
[06:25] <thecrono> that stuff is still in development stages you say?
[06:25] <mueslix> ForgeAus: interesting thing, but bound to fail imo
[06:25] <ForgeAus> but its still in beta
[06:25] <mueslix> ForgeAus: it'd either have to provide packages like a distribution
[06:25] <mueslix> or the user would have to compile all the software by himself
[06:26] <ForgeAus> (AndLinux is based on coLinux)
[06:26] <mueslix> otherwise i can't see them overcoming abi issues
[06:26] <thecrono> abi?
[06:26] <mueslix> application binary interface
[06:26] <mueslix> an application usually depends on libraries
[06:26] <ForgeAus> but its still in beta
[06:26] <mueslix> and if the libraries don't match "a certain version" (the binary interface changed) then it wouldn't be compatible
[06:27] <ForgeAus> line is another wine-like one on sourceforge
[06:27] <thecrono> though all this would be fuixed if i just had two computers :D
[06:27] <ForgeAus> basically the same acronym even just swap windows for linux
[06:27] <ForgeAus> mueslix yes mostly thats true
[06:27] <mueslix> ForgeAus: oh god, i'm not sure what's wrong with me today, but again i'll nitpick
[06:28] <mueslix> the w in wine doesn't stand for windows, but for "wine"
[06:28] <ForgeAus> I have found it annoying (to be honest) that linux seems so version-dependant...
[06:28] <ForgeAus> true Mueslix since its a recursive acronym
[06:28] <mueslix> ForgeAus: you wouldn't be if you were a programmer
[06:28] <ForgeAus> but then it has to recurse to something starting with w
[06:28] <mueslix> that's why programming for windows became an ugly mess
[06:28] <mueslix> cause they never cleaned up apis for compatibilities sake
[06:28] <mueslix> so you end up with 20 methods, all doing the same
[06:28] <mueslix> all with different issues
[06:29] <mueslix> just with different parameters
[06:29] <ForgeAus> which means the l in line stands for line :)
[06:29] <mueslix> ForgeAus: ezzally
[06:29] <thecrono> lol
[06:29] <thecrono> kubuntu took 30 minutes    to install..windows xp takes 3 hours
[06:29] <thecrono> ffs
[06:29] <ForgeAus> but what does the w (and or l) stand for once you have done all the iterations?
[06:30] <Tm_T> !language | thecrono ;)
[06:30] <ubotu> thecrono ;): Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:30] <mueslix> ForgeAus: it's infinitely recursive
[06:30] <ForgeAus> hehe mueslix don't get me started on infinity
[06:30] <mueslix> probably indicating that wine will always try to catchup in a god-given spiral of seeking failure
[06:31] <ForgeAus> I had a HUGE argument with ppl in #Philosophy on undernet about that infinity-1 is non-reductable
[06:31] <ForgeAus> they tried to tell me that infinity-1 = infinity
[06:31] <ForgeAus> to say that breaks the very meaning of the = sign
[06:31] <mueslix> oh no
[06:31] <mueslix> heh yeah
[06:31] <mueslix> easiest prove
[06:31] <mueslix> i'd just be too afraid to use
[06:31] <mueslix> what with the universe collapsing and shit
[06:32] <thecrono> you think that is stupid..someone told me one that somethign that does nto exist, can bring tiself into existance
[06:32] <Tm_T> kids
[06:32] <Tm_T> !ot
[06:32] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:32] <mueslix> he's christian i spose?
[06:32] <thecrono> no, he was an aethist
[06:32] <ForgeAus> thecrono in a sense he's right
[06:32] <mueslix> Tm_T: haha :D
[06:32] <Tm_T> mueslix: thecrono: please
[06:32] <mueslix> Tm_T: it's 6am everywhere kubuntu's used ;-)
[06:33] <ForgeAus> no it isn't
[06:33] <mueslix> ForgeAus: ssssssh
[06:33] <ForgeAus> its 5.30 pm here in Australia :)
[06:33] <thecrono> well, i'm going to..sadly..install winxp...it was a fun 2 days
[06:33] <Tm_T> mueslix <3
[06:33] <mueslix> heh, haven't been kicked from a channel in years. refreshing :)
[06:33] <mueslix> Tm_T: <3 :)
[06:33] <thecrono> i'm sitll gonna hang in this channel though :D
[06:34] <Tm_T> mueslix: isn't it, anyway, please, keep offtopicness in small numbers, thanks
[06:34] <thecrono> later
[06:34] <mueslix> Tm_T: sorry, np
[06:34] <gorlak> hi, i have a question, i am running a kubuntu 7.04 server (well desktop) with webmin, when my other linux machine tries to download files from the server it can only DL them at 150k/sec, however when i upload to the server i can do 20 megs in about 5 seconds, i have 1gig line throughout the entire wired correction any ideas where i can look on why this is happening?
[06:54] <thecrono> what do i need to do to make my entier HD 1 ntfs partition..and format it?
[06:55] <ForgeAus> klikit sounds interesting too, mostly just kubuntu with a web-based frontend to apt
[06:55] <thecrono> Kubuntu keeps loading
[06:55] <ForgeAus> basically like cnr I guess
[06:55] <thecrono> i found an winxp boot disk
[06:55] <thecrono> but it hangs heh
[06:55] <thecrono> and then kubuntu boots
[06:56] <thecrono> So what so i need to do to reformat my entier HD?
[06:56] <thecrono> i forgot the name of the partition program
[06:56] <ForgeAus> thecrono kubuntu has qtparted and xp has diskpart
[06:57] <thecrono> the xp disk gets to 'checkign ahrdware configureation...' and then hangs
[06:57] <ForgeAus> thecrono you might need scsi/raid drivers
[06:57] <dave> is anyone else having problems updating from the canonical repositories?
[06:57] <thecrono> nah, ive installed on my pc before
[06:58] <thecrono> with this cd
[06:58] <ForgeAus> then why is it hanging?
[06:58] <thecrono> dunno
[06:58] <ForgeAus> it shouldn't
[06:58] <thecrono> but the CPU light stays on
[06:58] <thecrono> maby it jsut takes an awefly long time? o.O
[06:58] <thecrono> its been ahwile sence i installed winxp
[06:58]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[06:58] <thecrono> how do i get to the linux partition program?
[06:59] <thecrono> hrm, well, let me try it again,
[06:59] <ForgeAus> boot from the LiveCD and either type qtparted in a console
[06:59] <ForgeAus> or run the installer
[06:59] <thecrono> ok
[06:59] <ForgeAus> note: qtparted is case sensitive so it may be something like QTpartEd I'm not entirely sure
[07:00] <ForgeAus> !qtparted
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[07:00] <ForgeAus> !info qtparted
[07:00] <ubotu> qtparted (source: qtparted): A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB
[07:16] <thecrono> bootcd won'twork
[07:16] <thecrono> is there any way to install windows from linux?
[07:16] <thecrono> winxp
[07:18] <val0> thecrono you are still here???
[07:19] <eternal> hello
[07:19] <thecrono> yes
[07:19] <thecrono> i'm trying to delete linux and reinstall xp
[07:19] <thecrono> but my bootcd won't bootproperly
[07:19] <val0> thecrono dude, you never sleep?? LOL, that's a long day for you!
[07:20] <val0> thecrono was you XP cd bootable before?
[07:20] <thecrono> is there any way to reformat the entier drive, and place something like dos on the drive, so it boots to prompt?
[07:20] <thecrono> yes, it hangs now
[07:20] <thecrono> it gets to checkign hardware configureation..and hangs
[07:20] <val0> thecrono what stage does it go to?
[07:20] <val0> thecrono ok
[07:21] <thecrono> i was thinking it may be my HD
[07:21] <thecrono> the boot cd works ive used it
[07:21] <thecrono> i'
[07:21] <val0> thecrono so you've tried a bunch of times and it hangs every time or you've tried it once and still waiting for it to finish what it's doing?
[07:22] <thecrono> it does nothing, the Cd spins for a while..it stops...then the CPU light goes on..but theres no sound..i left it for about 30 minutes
[07:22] <thecrono> the processor isn't doing anything
[07:23] <val0> thecrono well there are a few things we can do to achive what you want. just depends if you have time :D
[07:23] <thecrono> i got time
[07:23] <thecrono> i was thinking i could reformat the entier thing, make a 1 gb partition, and load DOs or something onto it :D
[07:23] <val0> thecrono ok well you can first d/l a bootable cd/diskette and re-write your mbr, format your h/d and all those good things before we even start installing anything new
[07:24] <thecrono> and then manually install windows
[07:24] <thecrono> no floppy drives
[07:24] <val0> thecrono that's fine, you can boot of a CD
[07:24] <thecrono> know any bootable cds?
[07:25] <thecrono> i think i formated the drive already anyways
[07:25] <thecrono> or dalated the aprtitions atleast
[07:25] <thecrono> dleeted*
[07:25] <val0> thecrono to make sure that there are NO misunderstanding and I am not helping destroy your data for nothing, you are SURE that you want to get rid of linux and install win XP???
[07:25] <thecrono> yes
[07:25] <thecrono> complete wipe, and reinstall xp
[07:25] <val0> thecrono ok
[07:26] <thecrono> and...i probably have to do it from a live cd
[07:26] <val0> thecrono http://www.bootdisk.com/
[07:26] <_6StringKng_> !Konversation
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <val0> thecrono is where you get a bootable cd and the utils we need to clean everything up
[07:26] <_6StringKng_> can someone help me with conversation?
[07:26] <_6StringKng_> konversation*
[07:26] <thecrono> i cannot burn anything though..i'm using a live cd
[07:26] <val0> _6StringKng_ i'll try but can't promise anything
[07:27] <val0> thecrono ok, you are using the Live CD, nothing is installed on the HD and you trying to install XP on it right?
[07:27] <thecrono> theres a broken partition linux instakll on the HD
[07:27] <_6StringKng_> k, well anyways, I use Ubuntu 7.10 but I use Konversation for my IRC Client, I was wondering how I would go about to get the OSD working in the Gnome desktop enviroment, seems I can't get it working
[07:28] <thecrono> i want to wipe it, make it ntfs, install xp
[07:28] <val0> thecrono ok
[07:28] <val0> _6StringKng_ sorry kde only here :(
[07:28] <_6StringKng_> ah, okay then, well I can use the systray notifications, was hoping the OSD would work
[07:29] <val0> _6StringKng_ i have Konversation but installed on KDE, have you tried #ubuntu? :D
[07:29] <val0> thecrono got a USB stick?
[07:29] <_6StringKng_> well figured, KDE app, ask here, but I'll try
[07:30] <thecrono> no..i got n mp3 stick..which is uh..kinda can hold data lol
[07:30] <thecrono> it can hold any format of data
[07:30] <_6StringKng_> yeah same thing basically
[07:30] <val0> thecrono so the only thing that we have to boot from are your LIVE cd and XP cd?
[07:30] <_6StringKng_> both arew flash data correct then should be able to do it
[07:30] <thecrono> pretty much
[07:32] <thecrono> maby my kubuntu install works still
[07:32] <thecrono> would that help?
[07:32] <val0> thecrono try it
[07:32] <thecrono> k brb
[07:40] <thecrono> nope, grub couldn't even laod
[07:40] <thecrono> error 22
[07:40] <val0> thecrono error 22 on windows load or XP load?
[07:41] <thecrono> what?
[07:41] <thecrono> GRUB
[07:41] <thecrono> kubuntu
[07:41] <thecrono> couldn'tload
[07:41] <thecrono> i have to use live cd
[07:41] <val0> thecrono yep just wondering
[07:43] <ol_dude67> thecrono, what did you do you was able to use kubuntu earlier?
[07:43] <thecrono> deleetd root
[07:43] <thecrono> lol
[07:43] <val0> thecrono try again to boot using your XP cd, if you manage select the RECOVERY CONSOLE
[07:43] <ol_dude67> oh shit
[07:43] <thecrono> i can'tselect anything
[07:44] <thecrono> it says press any button to boot from disk
[07:44] <val0> ol_dude67 he deleted the partition but kept the GRUB, needs to fix the mbr first
[07:44] <thecrono> then it says checkign hardware configuration
[07:44] <thecrono> and hangs
[07:44] <val0> thecrono ok
[07:44] <thecrono> its a dell operating system CD
[07:45] <val0> thecrono sh!t
[07:45] <val0> thecrono no access to another REAL xp cd?
[07:45] <thecrono> how big is the cd bootdisk?
[07:45] <thecrono> i got a burnt one lol
[07:45] <thecrono> that's not bootable
[07:46] <val0> thecrono if you burnt it off an iso or another original one there might be chance that it's a bootable one, unless you have already tried and you know that it doesn't boot
[07:46] <thecrono> ive tried,it doesn'tboot
[07:46] <ol_dude67> thecrono, do you have a command prompt?
[07:47] <thecrono> no, because it goes straight to grub
[07:47] <thecrono> that's why i wanted to reformat to ntfs
[07:47] <sigma_1234> can i disable the logout animation in kubuntu? ie- when the screen fades out
[07:47] <thecrono> if there is nothing, it sjhould go to a prompt
[07:47] <thecrono> right?
[07:47] <val0> ol_dude67 he really has nothing besides what a livecd gives him
[07:48] <val0> thecrono not sure what you mean by nothing?
[07:48] <ol_dude67> ok you can try this in terminal,
[07:48] <ol_dude67> thecrono, you ready?
[07:48] <thecrono> if the HD is jsut a big empty ntfs drive..and i boot the computer up...it would go to a prompt correct?
[07:48] <val0> thecrono nope, check out what ol_dude67 has to say
[07:49] <thecrono> yeah one sec
[07:49] <ol_dude67> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[07:49] <thecrono> er, open office laoded for no reason, one sec
[07:50] <ol_dude67> and that may work, may not from terminal
[07:50] <thecrono> permission denied
[07:50] <ol_dude67> sudo
[07:50] <thecrono> nothing happens..
[07:50] <thecrono> white box appears
[07:50] <thecrono> on next line
[07:52] <thecrono> hello?
[07:52] <val0> ol_dude67 woah! i just looked up the command you gave him... deadly :D
[07:52] <ol_dude67> ya it erases the hard drive
[07:53] <thecrono> how do i know if it worked?
[07:53] <val0> ol_dude67 never knew that
[07:53] <ol_dude67> try and redo your xp cdrom now
[07:53] <thecrono> i don'tthink it worked..heh
[07:54] <thecrono> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[07:54] <thecrono> nothing happens
[07:54] <thecrono> if i type..it just appears in a white box under that
[07:54] <ol_dude67> thecrono, if that didnt work the only thing you can do is download the hard drives disk for it and lowlevel format which is about the same thing
[07:54] <thecrono> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[07:54] <thecrono> fvdgfhjkgjkghjkgh
[07:54] <thecrono> fhch
[07:55] <thecrono> do what?
[07:55] <thecrono> that's konsole
[07:55] <val0> thecrono ok here is what you can try
[07:55] <ol_dude67> dell probably has a seagate hard drive in it,and you will have to go to there web site and get the restore disk.
[07:56] <stoiss> uhmm when i use commandline apt-get for a program like tor... where does it install the packages to ?
[07:56] <val0> thecrono can you boot into console mode only?
[07:56] <thecrono> from the live cd?
[07:56] <thecrono> which option is it?
[07:56] <val0> thecrono yes
[07:56] <thecrono> i can do OEM
[07:56] <val0> thecrono i think it's called console login or something like that
[07:57] <thecrono> and..?
[07:58] <val0> thecrono check this out: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314458
[07:58] <val0> thecrono tell you step by step how to remove Linux and install XP
[07:58] <spiroo> IN KDE3, how do i reset desktop? KDE4 has destroyed KDE3 :D
[07:59] <val0> never thought that i'd be sending anyone to that page, ever...  :S
[07:59] <spiroo> val0: haha
[08:00] <spiroo> anyone know how to reset?
[08:01] <thecrono> OOH
[08:01] <thecrono> fhch5748185+0 records in
[08:01] <thecrono> 5748185+0 records out
[08:01] <thecrono><PHONE_NUMBER> bytes (2.9 GB) copied, 432.057 seconds, 6.8 MB/s
[08:01] <thecrono> is that is ol_dude?
[08:01] <thecrono> the command you gave me'
[08:01] <ol_dude67> should be
[08:02] <thecrono> when i hit ctrl+c it gave me that
[08:02] <ol_dude67> you should of got a blank hard drive
[08:02] <thecrono> well,i cancelled it
[08:02] <thecrono> i'll run it again
[08:02] <val0> thecrono how big is your HD?
[08:02] <thecrono> 80gb
[08:02] <ol_dude67> 80 gig
[08:03] <ol_dude67> that is truely a wicked command
[08:03] <val0> thecrono well according to that speed that should take something like 8 hours to complete?
[08:03] <thecrono> :O wtf
[08:04] <thecrono> gparted took 30 minutes
[08:04] <val0> ol_dude67 yeh, never knew it could be that simple
[08:04] <thecrono> gparted took 30 minutes to do the entier drive
[08:04] <val0> thecrono well devide 80Gigs by 6.8MB/s
[08:04] <ol_dude67> he should be able to just kill the first part of the hard drive and start xp
[08:04] <val0> ol_dude67 yeh he needs to fix the mbr
[08:04] <thecrono> 90% of the hard drive was empty
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> lo all
[08:05] <thecrono> how do i start gparted?
[08:05] <val0> ol_dude67 and he can do that from the xp recovery mode to which he can't get in because the cd freezes
[08:05] <ol_dude67> it shouldnt now
[08:05] <xavibu> hi !
[08:05] <ol_dude67> ello
[08:05] <ol_dude67> "D
[08:05] <thecrono> i didn'tfinish that command oldude
[08:05] <val0> thecrono ok try it again, boot into XP
[08:05] <thecrono> ok, brb
[08:05] <spiroo> does not anyone know how to reset desktop settings?
[08:06] <ol_dude67> spiroo, im not sure there is a reset?
[08:06] <val0> spiroo you want to revert to KDE3 or just reset the setting of your current desktop?
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, you could rename ~/.kde
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, .kde stores your kde settings. What are you exactly trying to achieve?
[08:07] <spiroo> ActionParsnip: My desktop has crashed, there is no wallpaper and no icons, because KDE4 crashed.
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, so you want to reset your kde4 settings or revert to kde3?
[08:08] <val0> spiroo log out and restart the X server?
[08:08] <spiroo> both
[08:08] <ubuntu> hello all
[08:09] <ubuntu> can any1 help with an installation question???
[08:09] <spiroo> I want to remove KDE4, reset KDE3 without loosing KDM. I cannot remove KDE4. If I do I cannot login at all.
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, ifyou log out and choose your log in session as kde3 (might say kde)
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> !ask | ubuntu
[08:09] <ubotu> ubuntu: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:09] <spiroo> ActionParsnip: I amo logged in as KDE3
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, then rename all ~/.kde folders and reboot
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, like .kde4 .kde or whatever you got
[08:10] <spiroo> allright, but what you mean with rename all of them, what happens?
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_old
[08:11] <ubuntu> ok, sorry, while performing install on kubuntu it didn't proceed after step 5 (resizing) and also doesn't allow me to partition manually due to 3 existing primary partitions already there, what's wrong?
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, when you reboot. the system will see no .kde folder and create a new one from stock
[08:14] <ubuntu> linux-swap and root have to be primary so how can I make it fit? should I just let it partition automatically? and if so why doesn't it get past step 5?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, is there free space on your drive for kubuntu?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> hi spiroo
[08:16] <spiroo> hi, it did not work
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, did you rename all the .kde folders?
[08:16] <spiroo> It says for KDE-Panel: Malfunctioned /:system and :URL
[08:16] <spiroo> I think so
[08:17] <ubuntu> yes there is, actionparsnip, I ran system recovery of windows today
[08:17] <spiroo> No it says Malformed URL: /:system
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, if you have unpartitioned space you can let the installer use it automatically
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, can you do use a pastebin of ls -a in your home directory please
[08:19] <ubuntu> when I did that it remained stuck in resizing
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, ahhh so you are making space using pated?
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> !paste | spiroo
[08:20] <ubotu> spiroo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:20] <spiroo> http://pastebin.org/16786
[08:21] <spiroo> I got new folders for both kde4 and kde :D
[08:21] <ubuntu> what is pated? I tried resizing w/kubuntu installer itself.
[08:21] <ubuntu> kubuntu live cd
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, rename all the lines from 33 to 38
[08:22] <brmassa> guys, why the autocomplete feature from search field keeps giving me numbers amoung the possible phrases? if i right "brazil" then it shows: "2", "brazil nuts", "237", "brazilian consulate", "000 results"
[08:22] <brmassa> s\right\write
[08:23] <spiroo> ActionParsnip: huh?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, .kde .kde_old .kde_uhm .kde4 kde_uhm .kderc
[08:24] <spiroo> why and how?
[08:24] <brmassa> ops... on KONQUEROR
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, rename all those ones to something different (or move them to a folder)
[08:24] <ubuntu> is it true I can remain online while installing kubuntu?
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, they store all the settings for kde. Just like .ktorrent holds the settings for ktorrent
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, if you rename them then when you load kde the folder is there but not the expected name so the system will make a brand new one from stock
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, i meant parted
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, don't see why not :D
[08:25] <spiroo> ah okay, but I just did and it does not owrk?
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, you didnt do them ALL. there are 5 kde folders you needed to do and you only did one
[08:26] <ubuntu> cool,  I'm going to try again
[08:26] <bentob0x> what is port 8001 used for?
[08:27] <spiroo> allright
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x, http://www.auditmypc.com/port/udp-port-8001.asp
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x, google is useful for that sort of thing :D
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x, thats all I just did
[08:29] <bentob0x> ActionParsnip: I use Google always before I ask a question yes, did you actually read that page instead of copy/pasting it stupidly here?
[08:29] <bentob0x> that page is a scam
[08:29] <ubuntu> ok now I got 'failed to create enough space for installation'
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x, yep. its for vcom-tunnel
[08:30] <bentob0x> I find it funny that I can't see vcom-tunnel mentionned in the next 20 results in Google
[08:30] <ubuntu> I know I have plenty of space when only about 10gigs out of 60 is being used
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x, Its all im finding
[08:30] <spiroo> ActionParsnip: When i renmaed, a folder appeared directly for .kde again.
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x, http://www.babylon.com/definition/8001/English
[08:30] <spiroo> before reboot
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x, http://www.corruptedfilerepair.com/Ports/Port-Type-tcpudp-vcom-tunnel-8001.asp
[08:31] <val0> bentob0x this is not a scam!
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, hmm not seen that
[08:31] <val0> bentob0x http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x, I can keep pasting stuff but i will get banned for spamming
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, not seen that one man, sorry. No I dea
[08:32] <val0> ActionParsnip you check that one out too if you want, it's pretty detailed
[08:32] <spiroo> ActionParsnip: hehe okay, thanks for help anyway :)
[08:32] <bentob0x> k thx, btw, sorry for saying 'stupidly', ActionParsnip didn't mean anything bad
[08:33] <bentob0x> ok now, what does a vcom-tunnel connection do on my machine?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x, its cool man. ive had worse. you could insult anything and i dont mind
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x, just watch other folk as it might get you alienated
[08:35] <bentob0x> of course, but I'm not that kind of guy anyway
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x, http://lists.shed.com/pipermail/xtensionlist/2006/007513.html
[08:37] <spiroo> Damn, I cannot do anything on desktop :(
[08:37] <spiroo> I succesfully removed KDE4.
[08:37] <stoiss> uhnmm after installing tor i cant save the file after editing the cofig.. why ?
[08:38] <spiroo> And trashcan does not work :(
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> stoiss, did you run your editor with kdesu?
[08:38] <stoiss> what is that ? i just edited it in kate
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> stoiss, you edited it as a user. You needed to run it with kdesu kate <filename to edit>
[08:39] <stoiss> ahh ok thanks.. yeah i forgot that..
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> stoiss, then you are editing as admin
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> stoiss, do NOT use sudo
[08:40] <val0> VCOM - is a Visibility and Cabon Monoxide Monitor... and it motors it through port 8001. LOL
[08:40] <val0> *monitors
[08:40] <bentob0x> lol
[08:40] <val0> so don't fart near your computer :D
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> val0, haha, does it flow in through my open 10/100 interface?
[08:40] <stoiss> what is the diffrence of kdesu and sudo ? i know sudo is as root but what does the kdesu do then
[08:40] <bentob0x> the host was kubrick.freenode.net
[08:40] <val0> (if you  foolishly have that port open!!)
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> stoiss, sudo is for command line stuff like apt, cp, rm etc. kdesu is for gui apps like kate, kwrite, irefox etc
[08:41] <stoiss> ahhh i see. thanks
[08:41] <val0> ActionParsnip yeh it can come from there too. or like i said a good taco dinner can cause an alarm as well
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> stoiss, sudo will work but it can harm your permissions and make your system not work
[08:42] <stoiss> ok
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> stoiss, technically you can use kdesu for them all
[08:42] <spiroo> Is it possible to reinstall Kubuntu 7.10 without CD?
[08:42] <spiroo> I want to reinstall it inside Kubuntu. I am in school so I have not any CD for the moment
[08:45] <spiroo> anyone?
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, reinstall the whole thing?
[08:46] <spiroo> yes
[08:46] <spiroo> format all and install again inside this dist
[08:46] <spiroo> like install thingy in liveCD
[08:47] <spiroo> Seems like I crashed everything
[08:47] <blahblah1423> wow
[08:48] <therealcrono> i'm ghosted like 5 times on freenode
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, you could use apt to reinstall everything from the web
[08:48] <therealcrono> it worked val0 and ol-dude
[08:48] <ol_dude67> your welcom
[08:48] <spiroo> ActionParsnip: how?
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, get googling for man apt
[08:49] <stoiss> ActionParsnip: do you know if its possible to directly port ( copy ) programs from a debian based livecd ? i need like pentests and such from a backtrack cd installed here..
[08:49] <therealcrono> later i might look at one of those linux emulators/virtualizations
[08:49] <jhend60> ok hi everyone again
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> stoiss, do you mean install them to the live environment?
[08:49] <jhend60> i have installed kubuntu again
[08:50] <jhend60> on a laptop
[08:50] <jhend60> and it works
[08:50] <jhend60> but now i am in tty6
[08:50] <jhend60> how do i change to normal again
[08:50] <jhend60> (im in a consold_
[08:50] <jhend60> console
[08:50] <jhend60> what button do i press?
[08:51] <stoiss> ActionParsnip: no basicly i want to know if i can copy the installed directories from the livecd and paste them into the /ect folder in the installed ubuntu
[08:51] <ForgeAus> stoiss it won't work
[08:51] <ForgeAus> I lost my /etc recently
[08:51] <ForgeAus> and copied a live version to replace it
[08:51] <ForgeAus> and I didn't have much luck sofar
[08:52] <ForgeAus> it did make my system bootable but still no X yet...
[08:52] <ForgeAus> and no network...
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> how do you lose /etc?
[08:52] <ForgeAus> um a big crash turned it into a file instead of a directory
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, yikes!
[08:53] <ForgeAus> so I fsck'd it and it put all my files into numbered ones in the lost+found directory
[08:54] <jhend60> some1 help please?
[08:54] <ForgeAus> I was hoping to update it to feisty or later too
[08:54] <therealcrono> ol_dude do you know of a general windows channel anywhere?
[08:54] <ForgeAus> (ironically just after the crash I was able to finally fix my dpkg lol :)... )
[08:55] <jhend60> ok i have accidentally switched to tty mode (console) how do i swap to gui again?
[08:55] <ForgeAus> (I had a package that didn't like installing)
[08:56] <ol_dude67> jhend60, try hitting ctl,alt n f7
[08:56] <val0> this is as close to something usable as i could find re: port 8001 http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wchelp/v5r6/topic/com.ibm.commerce.admin.doc/tasks/tsrwcic.htm
[08:56] <val0> therealcrono so nothing helped?
[08:57] <ol_dude67> #windows
[08:57] <spiroo> Does anybody know how to reinstall Kubuntu inside itself. Yes I have googled, do not found anything.
[08:57] <val0> spiroo what do you mean to reinstall kubuntu inside itself?
[08:58] <val0> spiroo you want to reinstall the KDE or the Linux OS?
[08:58] <ForgeAus> spiroo how did you install it to begin with?
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get
[08:58] <ForgeAus> from the live CD you simply run the installer ubiquity it will overwrite your Kubuntu with a fresh install
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, check near the botttom. There is a --reinstall option
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, he doesnt have the cd
[08:58] <spiroo> ForgeAus: From beginning I used liveCD, but I do not have nayone for now :(
[08:58] <ForgeAus> ok
[08:59] <ForgeAus> spiroo well you could download one... but that will take time/download
[08:59] <spiroo> I know, but I cannot burn CD in school :D
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, sudo apt-get kdelibs --reinstall (i think its kdelibs, not sure. can someone verify)
[09:00] <spiroo> ah you mean like that ;P
[09:00] <se7en> someone know why i get Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated: No such device or address
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, did you google?
[09:00] <spiroo> yes
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, good. then you'd have seen the reinstall switch for apt
[09:01] <ol_dude67> se7en, ya i had that problem too, so i switched to vmware.
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, this will redownload the thing you specify and install it over the top
[09:01] <spiroo> I know about the reinstall for applications, but does it work to reinstall everything? I mean adept will crash when I reinstall everything?
[09:01]  * se7en likes qemu ...
[09:02] <val0> ol_dude67 where did you get vmware for linux? Desktop or server option?
[09:02] <spiroo> anyway it is not kdelibs
[09:02] <ol_dude67> se7en , try in the #qemu
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, why will it crash?
[09:02] <ol_dude67> and i got vmware from repos
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> se7en, virtualbox for me :)
[09:03] <val0> ol_dude67 ??? really? i looked for it :S
[09:03] <spiroo> ActionParsnip: Because reinstall the whole system while you are inside it, it is built to crash if so
[09:03] <ol_dude67> ah no try sudo apt-get install vmware-server
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, no because the program is in ram
[09:04] <se7en> ActionParsnip: i like virtualbox as well qemu is just so nice and fast ...
[09:04] <spiroo> ActionParsnip: okay then :) Just have to find the core package to reinstasll everything
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, how are you supposed to ever update adept through adept. It doesnt show the updated version until you rerun it fresh
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> spiroo, thats why you have to close all fiefoxes when you update it so the new one can be run
[09:05] <val0> ol_dude67 do they only offer server or there is a desktop option as well?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> se7en, qemu has native cpu access. the cpu on qemu systems is not emulated :D
[09:05] <spiroo> okay :) I see ;P
[09:06] <ol_dude67> val0, dont know didnt look for anything but the server.
[09:06] <val0> ol_dude67 cool cool
[09:06] <spiroo> Anyway I do not find the core package, does naybody know which I have to reinstall?
[09:06] <se7en> if i get it to work ... :) ActionParsnip
[09:07] <jhend60> ok
[09:07] <jhend60> i have a nother buh
[09:07] <jhend60> bug
[09:07] <jhend60> i fixed the other one
[09:07] <jhend60> why is ther Huge text on the login screen?
[09:07] <jhend60> and How do i fix it?
[09:07] <typoe> how huge?
[09:08] <jhend60> really really huge unreadable
[09:08] <jhend60> others have had this problem chk the web
[09:08] <jhend60> GOOGLE: Kubuntu Huge text on Login Screen
[09:10]  * jhend60 NUDGES everyone
[09:11] <ol_dude67> jhend60, i have never had that happen to me.thats a new one.
[09:11] <ol_dude67> jhend60, do you use grub or lilo?
[09:12] <jhend60> i dont no
[09:12] <jhend60> im a noob, but i suppose grub
[09:12] <ol_dude67> when you boot does it say grub?
[09:12] <jhend60> just got kubuntu from site
[09:13] <jhend60> no
[09:13] <jhend60> but i did see the word 'grub'in the setup
[09:13] <jhend60> just instaleld it
[09:13] <ol_dude67> then you use grub
[09:13] <typoe> does ctrl-alt-(keypad +/-) change size?
[09:13] <jhend60> ill try
[09:14] <jhend60> ive logged in now! im not on kubuntu im on different pc
[09:15] <spiroo> Please, I want Linux in school
[09:15] <jhend60> get eduLinux
[09:16] <jhend60> edubuntu
[09:16] <typoe> hit teachers over head, if that fails, hit school board over head
[09:16] <spiroo> Kubuntu worked perfect until I tested to install KDE4, which I never gonna do again until they release a stable one.
[09:18] <ol_dude67> spiroo, what are you using now?
[09:19] <spiroo> Kubuntu 7.10
[09:19] <spiroo> I successfully removed Kd4 after awhile. But now KDE3 does not work correct, some files or settings are corrupt.
[09:19] <spiroo> And renaming ~/.kde does not work
[09:20] <ol_dude67> you could just make a new user?
[09:21] <spiroo> Not sure if that gonna do it. But I can test. Not for the moment though. I downloading latest Prison Break which I wanna watch :D
[09:21] <ol_dude67> k,whatever..lol
[09:22] <typoe> you watch on kubuntu?
[09:22] <spiroo> If that does not work then, I must use LiveCD?
[09:22] <spiroo> yes ;P
[09:22] <typoe> good
[09:22] <spiroo> where else?
[09:22] <typoe> sometimes coec only run on evil os
[09:23] <typoe> codec
[09:23] <spiroo> haha :D Kaffeine works very well if you compare with WMP.
[09:23] <spiroo> .mkv works and HD and .srt, so why use Windows?