[02:54] <karlwrk> yeah, the wrapper normally works, but it's extremely hard to make sure you are wrapping the right driver :(
[02:54] <Catch22> (im really a linux n00b so dont kill me when i say something newbie)
[02:55] <Catch22> k karlwrk
[02:55] <Madpilot> star07: what happens when you just hit your "Print Screen" button?
[02:55] <sudharsh> geforceter show the output of xorg.conf in #flood
[02:55] <star07> after i press
[02:55] <sexcopter8000m> i've just changed the sound settings to not make that (annoying) sound when i click on things, but it's still there. do i need to restart the sound engine or something? if so, how?
[02:55] <star07> then i open GIMP, think to paste it out
[02:55] <karlwrk> Catch22: on the bright side, it's a lot easier now that it was 6 months ago :)
[02:55] <star07> but it can't
[02:55] <joseph> for example:  "addons.mozilla.org"  <---right-click and choose "Mozilla Firefox" and then "Open in new tab".  The tab does not open ever.
[02:55] <lowman62> you can get wallpapers here http://www.linuxhotbox.com/fun/linuxwallpapers/linux-wallpaper.26.htm
[02:55] <Catch22> oke, my last expierence was about a year ago
[02:55] <star07> i need to use File->Acquire-> ... to get the screen shot
[02:56] <Catch22> i still have to use the ndiswrapper ?
[02:57] <netstar> thanks man
[02:57] <joseph> how do I install nvidia openGL driver?
[02:58] <et0> Hello, I get "No symbols found" when I try to run X. Just installed Ubuntu. reconfiguring doesnt work.
[02:58] <sudharsh> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:58] <joseph> sudharsh:  does that give 3D support?
[02:59] <Madpilot> star07: are you running Ubuntu w/ Gnome? There should be a screenshot util that pops up when you hit Print Screen...
[02:59] <sudharsh> yes it does...mostly
[02:59] <star07> is it? madpilot?
[02:59] <joseph> sudharsh: what does this mean 'mostly'? is this an open-source reverse-engineering of the nvidia driver?
[02:59] <sudharsh> know nvidia's own driver
[03:00] <sudharsh> its propeitory..
[03:00] <Kibou> ..
[03:00] <joseph> sudharsh: so it's just an ubuntu packaging of the nvidia proprietary driver...
[03:00] <sudharsh> well it is in non-free section..so must be
[03:01] <joseph> sudharsh: it's non-free?
[03:01] <Madpilot> star07: try System menu --> Take Screenshot - what happens with that?
[03:01] <sudharsh> wait i blaberred somthin
[03:01] <Catch22> the downloads for ubuntu are slow :/
[03:01] <sudharsh> its in restrictive
[03:02] <sudharsh> not nonfree
[03:02] <sudharsh> see under Graphics(restrictive)
[03:02] <joseph> sudharsh:  I haven't touched my sources.list so this is just what I see as available by default installation of ubuntu
[03:02] <sudharsh> oh...then edit em
[03:03] <joseph> why does nvidia-glx depend on linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386?  I am using 2.6.12-10-686-smp so won't this cause a problem?
[03:03] <joseph> why should I edit them?
[03:03] <sudharsh> dear o dear u hav a dual core processor
[03:04] <sudharsh> ?
[03:04] <joseph> no
[03:04] <joseph> Hyper-Threading P4
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> Hmmm.
[03:04] <sudharsh> joseph check nvidia's site
[03:04] <Q_Cont|Ubuntu> Is it possible to install the 1.5 version of FF via the update manager, or must one break from the Ubuntu upgrade cycle to do so now?
[03:04] <star07_> scared me....look like hang just now
[03:04] <joseph> Isn't 2.6.12-10-686-smp proper for hyperthreading?
[03:04] <sudharsh> yes yes
[03:04] <Q_Cont|Ubuntu> Is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion the instructions I want to follow?
[03:04] <star07> back
[03:04] <sudharsh> yes
[03:05] <joseph> sudharsh: I don't want to use the nvidia proprietary installer.  Isn't there an ubuntu way of doing this?
[03:05] <geforceter> .
[03:05] <Q_Cont|Ubuntu> joseph: hyperthreading is seen by the OS as dual proc, so any SMP-enabled package is correct.
[03:05] <sudharsh> there is...if u dont hav any probs
[03:05] <geforceter> how come i am alwys disconnected?
[03:05] <star07> madpilot, i got it....there really will prompt out the screen after press
[03:05] <et0> Hello, I get "No symbols found" when I try to run X. Just installed Ubuntu. reconfiguring doesnt work.
[03:05] <joseph> so why does nvidia-glx depend upon linux-image-2.6.12-10-386?
[03:06] <RustyJames> is it possible to restore a file which has been remove with rm on fat32 file system and on a ext3 filesystem?
[03:06] <joseph> and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386
[03:06] <Madpilot> star07: sorry? there really will what?
[03:06] <sudharsh> the nvidia-glx must be a 386 compilation
[03:06] <geforceter> suddarsh: if i install ubuntu in my hd will it support my gfx card out of the box?
[03:06] <sudharsh> geforceter i think u have xfx card
[03:06] <star07> really will pop ou a windows after i press prn scr button
[03:06] <geforceter> ya
[03:07] <joseph> sudharsh: why must I be running a 386 kernel to use nvidia-glx?
[03:07] <star07> *pop out
[03:07] <sudharsh> works mostly...if not install nvidia-glx
[03:07] <geforceter> xfx geforce 6600 gt
[03:07] <sudharsh> dunno joseph..i use a stupid sis
[03:07] <geforceter> but why doesnt the live cd not work
[03:07] <star07> yeah, upgrating dist now...will it effect i chat here? it need restart?
[03:08] <joseph> argh..I was hoping ubuntu had an answer for a basic question like nvidia driver installation1
[03:08] <sudharsh> waht is ur problem..
[03:08] <karlwrk> (it might, remember this is irc, quality of help is variable)
[03:08] <thegladiator> ADEPT is crashing after every install/upgrade that I do . what could be the cause of this ? it does till the last stage seemingly of the installation , and closes all by itself ! and kde signals a crash . I am using kde 3.5 using #kubuntu-dektop package
[03:09] <sudharsh> adept?
[03:09] <thegladiator> adept package manager
[03:09] <joseph> I do not understand why nvidia-glx package depends on linux-image-2.6.12-10-386
[03:09] <sudharsh> i use gnome
[03:09] <thegladiator> adpet is there in default breezy installation
[03:09] <sudharsh> joseph..it will work
[03:09] <hunter_> hi
[03:10] <star07> how can i check now i'm using breezy or hoary?
[03:10] <thegladiator> even in  gnome
[03:10] <hunter_> German here?
[03:10] <hunter_> ??
[03:10] <joseph> sudharsh: but it will require that I install a kernel that is not the one that I want to use, correct?
[03:10] <sudharsh> force nvidia-glx.....to install
[03:11] <joseph> without dependencies?
[03:11] <sudharsh> yup try it...
[03:11] <joseph> ack...it's so unsophisticated
[03:11] <joseph> I'm dubious
[03:12] <sophtpaw>
[03:12] <sudharsh> joseph...nvidia-glx in my box doesnt depend on 386 kernel
[03:12] <joseph> sudharsh: I am using synaptic
[03:13] <sudharsh> joseph add all the repos first..
[03:13] <et0> Hello, I get "No symbols found" when I try to run X. Just installed Ubuntu. reconfiguring doesnt work.
[03:13] <joseph> which ones?  why aren't the default repos acceptable for this task?
[03:13] <sophtpaw> am i right in thinking that if a website has media    which reuqires quicktime, i cannot watch it
[03:13] <sudharsh> jus enable all of them...
[03:14] <sudharsh> not in linux...using firefox
[03:14] <Genius16> sophtpaw: i dont believe so
[03:14] <sophtpaw> shux
[03:14] <sudharsh> install libquicktime
[03:14] <netstar> anyone got a screenshot of their desktop I can look at?
[03:14] <sudharsh> netstar u want mine
[03:15] <Prozac> how can i install an ident, and how would i define what it should reply on ident request, if maybe an ftp asks for ident
[03:15] <netstar> yeah as long as it isn't too big.
[03:15] <joseph> why does ubuntu only have firefox version 1.0.7?
[03:15] <sudharsh> netstar where do i send em?
[03:15] <netstar> because they're a pain in the butt joseph
[03:15] <mad_phoenix> howdy...so i've been trying to set up a webserver, and when things started heading south i checked to see if i could ping <IP_ADDRESS>...and I couldn't.  Would apache or wordpress affect this?
[03:15] <netstar> !firefox
[03:15] <sudharsh> coz breexy was release b4 firefox 1.5
[03:15] <netstar> !firefox1.5
[03:15] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:16] <Genius16> its a good walkthrough
[03:16] <netstar> that works fine, imo.
[03:16] <lowman62> joseph: you can install 1.5 but do what ubotu sent you
[03:16] <Madpilot> joseph: because 1.5 was released after Breezy was released - 1.5 will be in Dapper in a few months, though
[03:17] <lowman62> Madpilot: is dapper going to be the upgrade to breezy?
[03:18] <sudharsh> netstar where can i send u the screenshot
[03:18] <renedox> speaking of firefox
[03:18] <renedox> how do I update to 1.5?
[03:18] <netstar> erm via IRC
[03:18] <netstar>  /dcc send netstar filename
[03:18] <sudharsh> how..i m new to irc
[03:18] <sophtpaw> shame, libquicktime, didn't do it. Not in Opera, Firefox or Epiphany
[03:19] <lowman62> sophtpaw: what are you trying to do?
[03:19] <netstar> sophtpaw, linux quicktime MOV support?
[03:19] <sophtpaw> under what circumstances does libquicktime make quicktime media available?
[03:19] <netstar> sophtpaw, about none.
[03:19] <netstar> :P
[03:19] <sophtpaw> i am trying to watch a vid on a website which requires quicktime
[03:20] <sudharsh> try pasting the url in totem-
[03:20] <lowman62> what is the web site sophtpaw?
[03:20] <Genius16> i believe i installed the firefox media player to get it working?
[03:20] <Sh4d0x> hi all
[03:20] <Sh4d0x> happy new year btw
[03:20] <Guardian> I just installed xubuntu, where is the xfce desktop directory ? i just downloaded a file with firefox to the desktop but nothing shows up. when i click on "open" in the firefox downloads dialog nothing happens, seems that the file has been downloaded to /dev/null
[03:21] <lowman62> sh4d0x: hi, happy new year
[03:21] <star07> hi, sh4d0x
[03:21] <sophtpaw> lowan62: http://johnderuiter.com/Seminar_Excerpts.html
[03:21] <netstar> Guardian, $HOME/Desktop
[03:21] <sudharsh> look in .xfce
[03:21] <Sh4d0x> i got a question: when i start my bittorend it asks me for a "metafile" what should i select there?
[03:21] <netstar> xfce doesn't understand the concept of  Desktop afaik,
[03:21] <sudharsh> Sh4d0x the torrent file
[03:22] <Sh4d0x> sudharsh, and where can i find that one :$
[03:22] <lowman62> sophtpaw: mplayer-plugin...it is working for me
[03:22] <sophtpaw> huh!
[03:23] <sudharsh> u gotta d/l torrents from torrentsearch.com
[03:23] <maze> !java
[03:23] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:23] <netstar> anyone know a site where you can upload images?
[03:23] <lowman62> sophtpaw: get the mplayer-plugin...that will work
[03:23] <Guardian> netstar: i don't have $HOME/Desktop :/
[03:23] <sophtpaw> lowman62: directly from the website? or did you as sudharsh suggested, paste it into totem?
[03:23] <Sh4d0x> sudharsh thnxx i'll give it a try
[03:23] <Sh4d0x> cya
[03:24] <lowman62> no it is running in firefox for me now using mplayer-plugin
[03:24] <sophtpaw> lowman62: pretty sure i already have it, but i'll try again
[03:24] <karlwrk> netstar: photobucket might work?
[03:24] <karlwrk> but it's not as simple as a pastebin
[03:24] <sudharsh> okies
[03:24] <lowman62> sophtpaw: then you do not have it configured properly if you do
[03:24] <netstar> thanks kafeine
[03:24] <netstar> karlwk even
[03:24] <errr_> What package do I need to install to get ./compile: line 6: ucs2any: command not found  this error fixed???  I cant find ucs2any in synaptic anywhere..
[03:24] <maze> !diskmounter
[03:24] <ubotu> diskmounter is, like, totally, to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[03:25] <lowman62> sophtpaw: the mplayer-plugin not just mplayer
[03:26] <sophtpaw> lowman62: synaptic doesn't show mplayer-plugin
[03:26] <sudharsh> gtg
[03:26] <_jason> sophtpaw, mozilla-mplayer I think
[03:26] <sudharsh> bye
[03:26] <s_spiff> hey are the repo's working?
[03:26] <lowman62> sophtpaw: If memory serves me correctly...I got mine from the mplayer website
[03:26] <s_spiff>  i cant seem to download any of the stuff!
[03:27] <thegladiator> i did a memtest86+ on my system . how can I explain this to my vendor that the memory is having problems ? normal cases reported are complete memory crashings like windows not booting etc.
[03:27] <sophtpaw> ok
[03:27] <_jason> !info mozilla-mplayer
[03:27] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 3.05-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 366 kB, Installed size: 1340 kB
[03:27] <s_spiff> ok now they are
[03:27] <netstar> thegladiator, tell them you run memtest86 as it's acceptable industry-wide as a valuable resource.
[03:27] <thegladiator> or the computer rebooting all of a sudden , as for me my aps crash due to seg faults
[03:27] <jono> a while back I tried to load a file from a windows share into OpenOffice.org and it would not allow it - I want to be able to load the file into OpenOffice.org from the remote share, be able to edit it and save it to the share - sounds reasonable? Can this be done in Breezy?
[03:28] <lowman62> sophtpaw: check what ubotu just said
[03:28] <thegladiator> netstar, thank you and besides , when you do a memtest you are expected to get no bad bits correct ?
[03:28] <thegladiator> in my memtest I see some bad bits being mentioned .
[03:28] <netstar> thegladiator, right.
[03:28] <Genius16> hey guys ive got a laptop. how to i configure power management? is there a utility automatically installed? im trying to get my system to suspend upon lid closure. would it be laptop dependent?
[03:28] <netstar> Any inconsitencies and your RAM should be thrown in the bin.
[03:28] <thegladiator> netstar, when you do a memtest , somethign comes written below ?  o just blank ?
[03:29] <star07> 8181, sudharsh
[03:29] <netstar> it will inform you of errors thegladiator
[03:29] <sophtpaw> ubotu: where do i get that?
[03:29] <ubotu> sophtpaw: What?
[03:29] <thegladiator> netstar, it doesnt come as pop ups ...under false but ...i gues I can see something
[03:29] <karlwrk> Genius16: yes, it does depend on the laptop.
[03:29] <sophtpaw> mozilla-mplayer
[03:29] <karlwrk> for some of us it "just works"
[03:30] <_jason> sophtpaw, he told you multiverse :)
[03:30] <thegladiator> netstar, i acn see many mem bits being written as good and something under bad as well
[03:30] <karlwrk> and for some it works in varying levels
[03:30] <thegladiator> netstar, in ur case nothing comes written under bad ?
[03:30] <sophtpaw> i have multiverse ticked
[03:30] <netstar> right.
[03:30] <Genius16> karlwrk: i figured so. you wouldnt also know if theres a way to get it to automatically restart the dhcp daemon after suspend. seems to be a problem with this laptop
[03:30] <_jason> sophtpaw, then just sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer, make sure you install mplayer first though
[03:31] <karlwrk> Genius16: apt-get laptop-net is _meant_ to do some of this
[03:31] <karlwrk> for me it at least made it clever enough not to hang trying to dhcp on a linkdown port, but your mileage may vary
[03:31] <sophtpaw> ubotu: i aplogogize. i found mozilla-mplayer in synaptic after all. was looking for mplayer only before
[03:31] <ubotu> sophtpaw: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:31] <_jason> ubotu, tell sophtpaw about mplayer
[03:31] <joseph> sudharsh joseph add all the repos first..
[03:31] <_jason> ubotu, tell sophtpaw about yourself
[03:31] <joseph> what repos?
[03:31] <Genius16> thanks ill check that out
[03:32] <thegladiator> netstar, http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/memory-fail.jpg ... this is almost like what I get . so I can safely say it is a case of failure ? what do you say ?
[03:32] <bur[n] er> anyone using azureus or gnome-btdownload ??  neither of them seem to be working for me lately.  They load up fine, pass the nat test, but just won't get passed 0%
[03:32] <alekandr> How do I start ssh, or check if its running, i checked /etrc(0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7).d/ for the ssh file and couldnt find it
[03:32] <Seveas> alekandr, apt-get install openssh-server
[03:32] <joseph> does anyone know how to install the nvidia driver on ubuntu?
[03:33] <thegladiator> !+nvidia
[03:33] <alekandr> Seveas: thanks mate
[03:33] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:33] <netstar> Under Errorswhat number do you get?
[03:33] <et0> Hello, I get "No symbols found" when I try to run X. Just installed Ubuntu. reconfiguring doesnt work.
[03:33] <thegladiator> I didnt check that
[03:33] <netstar> well check it
[03:33] <thegladiator> yes i will check and brb
[03:33] <netstar> more than one and your RAM is broken and needs throwing away.
[03:33] <thegladiator> is the the important parameter ?
[03:33] <netstar> damn straight it is.
[03:33] <maze> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[03:33] <maze> why do i get this error
[03:34] <maze> i do already have kernel headers installed..
[03:34] <thegladiator> yes i will check and brb , even it has more than one , it cud still run a OS , yes ?
[03:34] <alekandr> Oh man, <3 xchat
[03:34] <_jason> maze, you installed build-essential?
[03:34] <netstar> thegladiator, Nope, not reliably anyway.
[03:34] <alekandr> No need to open terminals just /exec -o
[03:34] <thegladiator> yep
[03:34] <thegladiator> brb
[03:34] <maze> _jason, yes
[03:34] <alekandr> _jason: hey mate :)
[03:34] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell joseph about nvidia
[03:34] <_jason> alekandr, hi
[03:34] <sophtpaw> lowman62: got a result. mozilla-mplayer installed the mplayer-plugin needed. Now i can watch my exerpt! thank you. (however, still doesn't work in opera, hmm...)
[03:35] <Q_Continuum> Question: Why is Ubuntu still running on a beta of OO.org 2.0, and the previous incantation of Firefox?
[03:35] <olicat> how can i check the size of a swap partition?
[03:36] <Seveas> Q_Continuum, breezy is stable and does not receive new versions
[03:36] <_jason> Q_Continuum, the way I understand it, ubuntu is a stable release.  So the only updates provided are security related.
[03:36] <lowman62> sophtpaw: sometimes in linux..you just can't have it all...but maybe in time ;)
[03:36] <Seveas> apart from security updates
[03:36] <joseph> thegladiator:  why does nvidia-glx depend upon linux-image-2.6.12-10-386?
[03:36] <Q_Continuum> I assume the next version is in testing...is it possible to use that and get the 'current releases'?
[03:37] <Q_Continuum> (AKA Firefox 1.5, Oo.org 2.0 final...)
[03:37] <jenda> Q_Continuum: It's the debian policy which Ubunut adopted: no updates in the main repos after the release. And exactly what you just said is called backporting and it works on Ubuntu
[03:37] <jenda> !backports
[03:37] <ubotu> somebody said backports was Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:37] <sophtpaw> lowman62: i think you're right. And i got too excited. It was downloaded/buffering and got up to 99% but now it has stopped and doesn't open. Seems yet more plugins of sorts are required to finally view the exerpt
[03:37] <Q_Continuum> Thanks.
[03:37] <jenda> np
[03:37] <crimsun> joseph: it doesn't; it depends on a virtual package that is provided by the linux-image you mentioned, among others
[03:38] <sophtpaw> lowman62: but it is possible to view on Linux as you have proved but not on mine for the time being it seems
[03:38] <joseph> crimsun: I'm reading it right there in front of me.
[03:38] <alekandr> Seveas: I suppose I have to write the ssh_config file?
[03:38] <lowman62> sophtpaw: I also installed the w32codecs and that may be the difference
[03:38] <Seveas> alekandr, no
[03:38] <Seveas> it should work out of the box
[03:39] <sophtpaw> lowman62: no, i have those installed too
[03:39] <alekandr> root@deprivation:~# /etc/rc0.d/K20ssh start
[03:39] <alekandr>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                                                         [fail]
[03:39] <crimsun> joseph: what are you reading?
[03:39] <alekandr> :(
[03:39] <et0> I keep getting "No Symbols found" when I try to run X after I installed Ubuntu. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work. Any clues or hints?
[03:39] <lowman62> sophtpaw: if you take the browser out of focus it will stop playing...is that what happened?
[03:39] <alekandr> Seveas: It fails to start
[03:40] <Seveas> alekandr, errors on the pastebin please
[03:40] <joseph> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6887
[03:40] <crimsun> joseph: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6888
[03:40] <alekandr> All two lines of it :*
[03:41] <crimsun> joseph: note how nvidia-kernel* is a virtual package that those linux-image packages each provide
[03:41] <sophtpaw> lowman62: browser out of focus? i don't understand
[03:41] <joseph> crimsun: it is?  how do I tell that it is a "virtual package"
[03:41] <alekandr> Ok, Seveas Its on pastebin, any ideas?
[03:41] <lowman62> sophtpaw: if you switch from one open program to another during playback it will stop the video and you will have to start it over again
[03:41] <C-O-L-T> where to get cedega deb format?
[03:42] <joseph> crimsun:  The following NEW packages will be installed:
[03:42] <joseph>   linux-image-2.6.12-10-386
[03:42] <crimsun> joseph: it's surrounded by <>s, and packages that satisfy it are listed immediately below.
[03:42] <joseph> crimsun: what am I missing?
[03:42] <maze> Seveas, i keep getting this: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[03:42] <maze>  , but i already have kernel headers installed, any ideas?
[03:42] <crimsun> joseph: uname -r
[03:42] <Seveas> alekandr, /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[03:42] <joseph> 2.6.12-10-686-smp
[03:42] <Seveas> alekandr, as root or with sudo :)
[03:43] <crimsun> joseph: dpkg -l linux-686-smp|grep ^ii
[03:43] <lowman62> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[03:43] <alekandr> Seveas: lol, i only have a root account on this pc :]
[03:43] <joseph> crimsun: dpkg -l linux-686-smp|grep ^ii
[03:43] <joseph> No packages found matching linux-686-smp.
[03:43] <crimsun> joseph: install it.
[03:43] <joseph> crimsun: install what?
[03:43] <lowman62> <--smoke break
[03:43] <alekandr> Seveas: Restarted
[03:43] <crimsun> joseph: linux-686-smp
[03:44] <sophtpaw> lowman62: i don't know. Same thing in Epiphany. It buffers fine till 99% and then stops
[03:44] <Seveas> alekandr, that worked?
[03:45] <alekandr> Seveas: indeed, thanks
[03:45] <joseph> crimsun:  why linux-686-smp and not linux-image-686-smp
[03:45] <crimsun> joseph: because linux-686-smp pulls in the appropriate l-r-m, too.
[03:46] <joseph> so why is linux-image-686-smp even provided as a package?
[03:46] <s_spiff>  any reccomendations for a bittorrent client?
[03:46] <crimsun> joseph: why shouldn't it be?
[03:46] <star07> hi, if the network got proxy
[03:46] <joseph> crimsun: should I remove linux-image-686-smp?
[03:46] <crimsun> joseph: case in point: some of us don't need l-r-m.
[03:46] <maze> Seveas, i keep getting this: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop. but i have kernel modules installed, would u kno whats wrong ? :o
[03:46] <star07> is it possible that i can use apt-get again?
[03:46] <Madpilot> s_spiff: the default gnome-bittorrent is OK
[03:46] <crimsun> joseph: it doesn't hurt to have it
[03:47] <Seveas> maze: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[03:47] <joseph> crimsun: wouldn't it be installing 2 kernels then?
[03:47] <crimsun> joseph: no, they're both metapackages.
[03:47] <s_spiff> hmm ok
[03:47] <joseph> crimsun; what is l-r-m
[03:47] <crimsun> joseph: linux-restricted-modules
[03:48] <alekandr> maze: ls /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386
[03:48] <maze> what about it alekandr , theres no build folder.
[03:48] <maze> but there is kernel, bunch of modules
[03:48] <alekandr> there is on mine
[03:49] <maze> volatile, initrd
[03:49] <joseph> crimsun: okay I removed linux-image-686-smp and just installed linux-686-smp
[03:49] <joseph> crimsu: that should work right?
[03:49] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[03:50] <joseph> crimsun: oh wait, linux-686-smp depends upon linux-image-686-smp
[03:50] <u^A> hello i have a question which is not technically related, i have ordered some cd and waiting for the shipping,but i still did not received official confirmation
[03:50] <alekandr> maze: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6890
[03:50] <joseph> crimsun: so basically all I've accomplished is to install the l-r-m
[03:50] <MacSlow> How to enable a daily apt-get update under Ubuntu?
[03:50] <michuk> cron it
[03:51] <MacSlow> Is this already in place in a stock 5.10 install (and only needs to be switched on)?
[03:51] <mips> Hi anybody here familair with pptp ?
[03:51] <maze> alekandr, yeah i have everything minus build
[03:51] <MacSlow> michuk, sure thing... just wanted to ask for the proper apt-get command, I'm only familiar with yum and rpm
[03:52] <michuk> apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:52] <lowman62> sorry sophtpaw i was out for a smoke
[03:52] <sophtpaw> no worries
[03:52] <soundray> I'm looking for an HTML photo gallery generator. Synaptic throws up a few package names -- any experiences? Recommendations?
[03:52] <sophtpaw> just trying other stuff out
[03:52] <joseph> crimsun: what else do I have to do besides installing the nvidia-glx
[03:52] <sophtpaw> but it don't look do-able
[03:52] <Perversus> Buenas tardes a todos
[03:52] <Madpilot> MacSlow: your system should check for updates once a day or so, a red icon will appear in the notification area
[03:53] <Catch22> moment of thruth
[03:53] <Madpilot> soundray: gThumb has a decent basic gallery maker
[03:53] <michuk> MacSlow: or: apt-get -y dist-upgrade (this will assume yes to all questions)
[03:53] <lowman62> sophtpaw: I also have internet explorer installed with quicktime and windows media player...I dunno maybe that is why it works for me
[03:53] <Catch22> about to install ubuntu
[03:53] <alekandr> maze: apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 linux-kernel-headers
[03:53] <et0> I keep getting "No Symbols found" when I try to run X after I installed Ubuntu. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work. Any clues or hints?
[03:53] <sophtpaw> ic lowman62, is that with wine that you IE installed?
[03:54] <soundray> Madpilot, is it reasonably easy to customize the HTML templates?
[03:54] <joseph> Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config
[03:54] <lowman62> sophtpaw: no I use crossover office pro
[03:54] <MacSlow> Madpilot, michuk: I'm currently helping a friend, a fresh win-lin convert, with her box-setup.
[03:54] <Madpilot> soundray: I don't know, actually, I've used it once just to test
[03:54] <maze> alekandr, was missing linux-headers, but already had kernel headers O_O
[03:54] <maze> alekandr,  thx for the help
[03:54] <alekandr> :]
[03:54] <sophtpaw> lowman62: oh, i have IE installed with wine, which i hadn't thought of as i never use it. I'll check that out
[03:55] <soundray> Madpilot, thanks, I'll have a look.
[03:55] <lowman62> sophtpaw: try it and see
[03:55] <joseph> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia mentions to do this command " sudo apt-get install sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:55] <joseph> " but I get an error "Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config"
[03:55] <lowman62> probably will crash in wine tho :P
[03:55] <meborc> ok, i need advice... i have no sound in my breezy box... i can get my music and everything working, but sounds in ubuntu are not working... i went system>preferences>sound, tried to change my VIA motherboard sound device to a SB live... but whenever i go back to that menu, the VIA is still selected... i guess there is something wrong... how can configure what card ubuntu uses?
[03:56] <MacSlow> Madpilot, michuk: Ah... she just told me that after the first reboot after the install she was asked if she wanted "automatic updates" she answerd that with "yes". So I guess she has that stuff in place now.
[03:56] <SeicherlBoB> anybody knows what to do with a screwed lcp-setting for pppd? can anybody help me?
[03:56] <CarinArr> is there a way to give local users priveleges that remote users don't have?
[03:56] <soundray> Is anyone here familiar with zoph or KimDaBa? I'm looking for a recommendation for web image gallery generators.
[03:56] <Catch22> shit.. doesnt recognise my WLAN card
[03:57] <CarinArr> i.e. say i want local users to be able to use shutdown and reboot but i dont want remote users to
[03:57] <blue-frog> CarinArr, are remote and local users the same?
[03:57] <CarinArr> yes
[03:58] <CarinArr> i only want those physically at the machine to be able to reboot it etc
[03:58] <jorgp> where do I define a default editor, when I visudo it uses nano I want to switch to vim
[03:58] <alekandr> maze: all working?
[03:58] <soundray> CarinArr, I think you'll have to write a wrapper for shutdown that checks the users remote/local status.
[03:58] <s_spiff> are there no  other otrrent clients? other the the bittorrent ?
[03:58] <sophtpaw> lowman62: can i install quicktime in I.E or would wine come into it??
[03:59] <jorgp> s_spiff: there are tons of clients
[03:59] <nalioth_zZz> jorgp: in your ~/.bashrc   export EDITOR=blah
[03:59] <s_spiff> like?
[03:59] <CarinArr> soundray, do you know where i can find any more information on it?
[03:59] <MacSlow> Madpilot, michuk: Would you recommend to enable those "universe"-repositories for apt-get for a "just user"-type of person?
[04:00] <soundray> CarinArr, how do you give remote access? ssh or XDMCP?
[04:00] <CarinArr> ssh
[04:00] <Madpilot> MacSlow: yes - there is all sorts of useful stuff in Universe/Multiverse
[04:00] <jorgp> s_spiff: ktorrent, ctorrent, azureus, qtorrent, rtorrent, etc..
[04:01] <s_spiff> ok... which ones good? every time i start bittorrent..it keeps asking me the metafile and crap..are there none like abc [ for windows ]  or the windows version bittorrent client?
[04:02] <Catch22> mayb utorrent, dont know whether theres a linux client
[04:02] <Catch22> im currently using that for winxp
[04:02] <s_spiff> ok..
[04:02] <joseph> why does this command fail? "sudo ./armyops250linux.run".  I get this error:  "sudo: ./armyops250linux.run: command not found
[04:02] <joseph> "
[04:02] <s_spiff>  thanks..will try some of these
[04:02] <s_spiff>  cya
[04:02] <trappist> joseph: sudo sh ./armyops250linux.run
[04:03] <trappist> joseph: also try: scp armyops250linux.run<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(just kidding)
[04:03] <soundray> CarinArr, a simple solution might be to stick with the Ubuntu default. That way, local non-privileged users can still reboot by changing to a text console and hitting Ctrl-Alt-Del.
[04:03] <joseph> what is the time-out for sudo to remember my password so I don't have to re-enter it?
[04:04] <trappist> 15 minutes
[04:04] <Madpilot> joseph: I think it's 15min
[04:04] <soundray> CarinArr, you can change the Ctrl-Alt-Del behavior to shutdown by editing /etc/inittab
[04:04] <CarinArr> soundray, yeah.. i was just wondering how they do it in gnome/kde..
[04:04] <miro> proba
[04:04] <apokryphos> joseph: 15 mins
[04:05] <soundray> CarinArr, I don't know... If all else fails, you can always look at the source code.
[04:05] <CarinArr> heh
[04:05] <CarinArr> weeee
[04:05] <CarinArr> ;)
[04:05] <soundray> CarinArr, found something?
[04:05] <CarinArr> no, just happy at the prospect
[04:05] <CarinArr> heh
[04:05] <Laitte> good morning
[04:06] <SeicherlBoB> can anybody help me with my pppd? I need to fix some lcp-settings. i get pptp[29669] : anon log[decaps_gre:pptp_gre.c:395] : discarding duplicate or old packet 29317 (expecting 107009)
[04:06] <SeicherlBoB> all the time!
[04:06] <soundray> CarinArr, this isn't really my turf, but there are ways to check user status through commands like w and who
[04:07] <CarinArr> thanks soundray
[04:07] <CarinArr> little bit wiser now;)
[04:08] <soundray> CarinArr, also check out 'man 5 utmp'
[04:09] <CarinArr> thanks
[04:09] <fsd> Hi! I've changed my firts drive with grub and linux to other one. How to reinstall grub on it using linux installation cd?
[04:09] <lowman62> sophtpaw: did that work?
[04:09] <fsd> I have already linux on second one
[04:09] <soundray> fsd, do you have the live CD by any chance?
[04:10] <fsd> yes, default ubuntu
[04:10] <apokryphos> fsd: /msg ubotu grub
[04:10] <soundray> !grub
[04:10] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:10] <b1shop> damn.  realvnc enterprise viewer for linux tosses libc errors
[04:11] <edoardo> hi gals, hi dudes : )
[04:11] <edoardo> you guys, with gnome-volume-manager on, i still need to unmount say a usb connected ogg/mp3 player or can i simply unplug it, and it'll self-unmount?
[04:13] <soundray> edoardo, always better to unmount. You might have dirty buffers otherwise.
[04:13] <SeicherlBoB> is there nobody in here that knows about lcp for pppd???
[04:13] <edoardo> soundray, it's not for me. i unmount stuff. it's actually for my father's office. he's got a usb key and might forget to unmount. what would happen?
[04:13] <edoardo> soundray, and also, would it automatically unmount?
[04:14] <soundray> edoardo, if he's written to it, and the write hasn't completed, he might lose data.
[04:14] <edoardo> soundray, how would he know if the write has completed?
[04:15] <soundray> edoardo, best way is to unmount... The unmount only finishes after all writes are complete.
[04:15] <soundray> edoardo, i.e. buffers flushed.
[04:16] <edoardo> soundray, like say he copies a bunch of documents, and then the copy process is over. is it *actually* over or is it like floppies, where stuff gets loaded into the floppies the moment you unmount?
[04:16] <soundray> edoardo, you could reduce his risk by mounting removable devices with the sync option.
[04:16] <soundray> edoardo, it's similar to the floppy situation.
[04:16] <nutcase> Hi , im asking, is there anyway to know about ubuntu's processor management? Any documents at all?
[04:17] <edoardo> soundray, how do iset the sync option?
[04:17] <soundray> edoardo, dirty buffers are flushed when the system is idle, when you issue a 'sync' or 'unmount', or forced after a certain timeout.
[04:17] <soundray> edoardo, in /etc/fstab
[04:17] <edoardo> soundray, thought so but... i'm usin' gnome-volume-manager
[04:17] <edoardo> soundray, i think it avoids fstab
[04:17] <soundray> edoardo, give me two minutes...
[04:18] <edoardo> soundray, awright : )
[04:18] <tokyoahead> hi guys, I just installed the live CD on my laptop, and activated the WLan interface, but how can I actually connect now?
[04:19] <gnomefreak> tokyoahead, you didnt install the live-cd and if you have rebooted since you activated the wlan you need to re-activate it
[04:20] <tokyoahead> gnomefreak: actually I juist found out it works already... its just the newtork icon on the taskbar only shows the lo
[04:20] <klip> Hi there
[04:21] <Stork> hi, the X server (gdm) gives me this error: "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"
[04:21] <klip> did you check the versions yourself?
[04:21] <tokyoahead> is there anything to be careful about when changing from gentoo to ubuntu? I have a parallel windows partition that I dont want to be touched either...
[04:22] <Stork> anyone?
[04:22] <klip> So: are the versions really different from each other @Stork?
[04:22] <enkrav> What's the easiest way (for moms) to prevent the annoying find process that slows down the system daily from being started?
[04:22] <Stork> klip, that's what it says, how do i check?
[04:22] <klip> oh, okay, give me a second, ok?
[04:22] <Stork> oh thanks
[04:23] <mjr> enkrav, sudo rm /etc/cron.daily/slocate
[04:23] <soundray> edoardo, there doesn't seem to be a gnome-volume-manager option for sync mounting.
[04:23] <klip> Stork: Use this command:
[04:23] <soundray> edoardo, probably best to educate your father...
[04:23] <klip> uname -a
[04:23] <Stork> ok
[04:23] <klip> in the shell and you will see which kernel version you have.
[04:24] <MacSlow> how is sshd enabled under Ubuntu?
[04:24] <Stork> klip, "Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:37: UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux"
[04:24] <soundray> MacSlow, by default if you install openssh-server
[04:24] <mjr> MacSlow, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:25] <Linfanguin> is there a website with screenshots and info on all the linux distros? i want to see what the diffrence in all of them
[04:25] <klip> Do you have the latest driver for nVidia?
[04:25] <cyberzack> i have a probleme with drapper
[04:25] <Madpilot> Linfanguin: try distrowatch, they've got some of that info
[04:25] <cyberzack> some one for help
[04:25] <dirkvdbroek> Hello, I am still having trouble getting dri to work any help in here?
[04:26] <soundray> Linfanguin, also, http://lwn.net/Distributions/
[04:26] <Stork> klip, using "apt-get install nvidia-glx" says i do
[04:26] <klip> okay.
[04:26] <Madpilot> http://distrowatch.com/
[04:26] <Linfanguin> thanks alot
[04:26] <grundo> hi all!
[04:26] <klip> so the x module is too old, as the version number says.
[04:27] <klip> I am a beginner myself and I don't really know how to update the x module.
[04:27] <grundo> i tryed to launch my America's army game after installing it but i get this error:
[04:27] <grundo> ./armyops-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:27] <cyberzack> the dist-upgrade is succesfu exept firefox but lot of packets are corrupted
[04:27] <klip> grundo: do you have the lib? check synaptics.
[04:27] <Stork> klip, i'd guess sudo apt-get install gdm ?
[04:27] <grundo> ok
[04:27] <grundo> what do i search for there?
[04:28] <grundo> what lib?
[04:28] <cyberzack> and i can't use eagle for using apt-get
[04:28] <cleo> grundo: libstdc++5
[04:28] <Stork> klip, nope, i have the latest version :|
[04:28] <grundo> ok
[04:28] <grundo> :-)
[04:28] <gnomefreak> cyberzack, what version of ubuntu
[04:28] <cyberzack> i had breezy and i dist-upgrade to drappr
[04:28] <klip> Well search for the libstdc++
[04:29] <dirkvdbroek> my X is giving me the following error: (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EINVAL"
[04:29] <dirkvdbroek> I'm trying to get dri working with the fgl drivers
[04:29] <dirkvdbroek> I have reverted to using the synaptic tool to get them
[04:29] <dirkvdbroek> however, that did not solve any of my problems
[04:29] <joseph_> is it okay to have both libstdc++5 and libstdc++6 at the same time
[04:29] <gnomefreak> cyberzack, seeing as that dapper is not released not even in beta yet your gonna find alot of packages that dont work
[04:29] <dirkvdbroek> I'm really end of line - and I got this running on slackware in no time!
[04:30] <dirkvdbroek> what is wrong with my ubuntu?
[04:30] <Stork> hi, the X server (gdm) gives me this error: "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"
[04:30] <cyberzack> yes i know that drapper is developpement but just for example X doesnt work
[04:30] <cyberzack> eagle usb also
[04:30] <cyberzack> im in trouble
[04:31] <cyberzack> and no way too got my breezy snif snif
[04:31] <dirkvdbroek> cyberzack, did you try switching to console?
[04:31] <gnomefreak> cyberzack, i would file a bug with bugzilla and wait or go back to breezy if you cant or if they cant help
[04:32] <cleo> dirkvdbroek: try Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" in xorg.conf under Device section
[04:32] <klip> gtg now, do some homework.
[04:32] <klip> 4 pm in germany
[04:32] <klip> see you all.
[04:32] <Stork> hi, the X server (gdm) gives me this error: "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"? if i remove and re-install gdm would that work? or maybe if i installed kde instead?
[04:32] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: How did you install the ATI drivers?
[04:32] <gnomefreak> bye klip
[04:32] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I used synaptic the last time
[04:32] <cyberzack> how to go back to breezy without lost of data
[04:32] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: you must have changed the xorg.conf file, though
[04:33] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: how did you do that?
[04:33] <dirkvdbroek> I have assumed it has overwritten the previous drivers in /lib/modules
[04:33] <Stork> anyone?
[04:33] <dirkvdbroek> I modified by hand and using fglconfig
[04:33] <dirkvdbroek> I have found no way to properly edit my x config in the gui of ubuntu unfortunately
[04:33] <Stork> hi, the X server (gdm) gives me this error: "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"? if i remove and re-install gdm would that work? or maybe if i installed kde instead?
[04:33] <ccooke> cyberzack: 1) If /home is a seperate partition, you're fine. 2) If not, back it up. 3) If you can't, split / into /home and / (but be aware that this *does* have some risk)
[04:34] <thegladiator> am I connected ?
[04:34] <thegladiator> test*
[04:34] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, yes
[04:34] <Madpilot> thegladiator: you seem to be
[04:34] <dirkvdbroek> thegladiator, please, you are connected stop spamming :)
[04:34] <Linfanguin> i have a question-with all this linux dsitros whats the diffrence? it seems like they all run on either kde or gnome? the only diffrence i see is the name-logo am i wrong?
[04:34] <thegladiator> yo yes
[04:34] <Madpilot> ... or we're all hallucinating... :P
[04:34] <ccooke> Stork: the error says there's a version mismatch. Either you have the wrong kernel or the wrong version of the xorg drivers
[04:34] <cyberzack> ok ok but no probleme with /home partition
[04:34] <thegladiator> he he thats a possibility
[04:35] <ccooke> Stork: is this the first time you've tried using the nvidia drivers?
[04:35] <gnomefreak> Linfanguin,  the packages are different from distro to distro
[04:35] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, do you agree not to use the internal agpgart? that's not reccomended by ati
[04:35] <cyberzack> i thought that is a possible way to recover , like apt-get recover loooooooool
[04:35] <cleo> dirkvdbroek: do it and it will work
[04:35] <Stork> ccooke, i've had them for a while, but i only just restarted ubuntu with them recently. i restarted gnome before though
[04:35] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: yes, quite. whatever is in your config, try reversing the line.
[04:36] <ccooke> Stork: have you upgraded your system recently?
[04:36] <dirkvdbroek> cleo, I can start xinit after killing off gdb, but gdb does not seem to load my new xorg.conf  - what config file is gdb looking at?
[04:36] <ccooke> Stork: updated, rather
[04:36] <dirkvdbroek> I'm currently starting X from a remote ssh session so I can observe without getting locked out.
[04:36] <Stork> ccooke, i have updated the kernel a few days ago using the "show-updates" thing
[04:37] <dirkvdbroek> (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[04:37] <dirkvdbroek> seems wrong too doens't it
[04:38] <ccooke> Stork: hmm. perhaps you didn't update the restricted modules patch
[04:38] <astronaut> hi
[04:38] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: that's fine.
[04:38] <Stork> ccooke, how can i do that?
[04:38] <ccooke> stork: ssh in, then try: sudo apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:39] <ccooke> Stork: sorry, sudo in front of both apt-get commands
[04:39] <Stork> ccooke, the onle ones it wants to update are "info" and "sudo" :(
[04:40] <dirkvdbroek> I get no improvement with either internal or external
[04:40] <ccooke> Stork: right, so everything seems fine there. what does 'dpkg -l linux-image*' do?
[04:40] <dirkvdbroek> buggy stuff!
[04:40] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: you probably have a broken configuration, that's all
[04:40] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I KNOW I have a broken config
[04:41] <dirkvdbroek> hwo to fix it!
[04:41] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:41] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: select the *ati* driver - not fglrx
[04:41] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: make sure that works
[04:41] <Stork> ccooke, gives me a table with 5 entries
[04:41] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: once it does, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change:
[04:41] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: the 'ati' driver to 'fglrx'
[04:42] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: and into the Device section add : Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
[04:42] <Stork> ccooke, "un linux-image, un linux-imgage-2., ii linux-image-2." etc
[04:42] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: try that. if it doesn't work, add: Option          "UseInternalAGPGART"    "off"
[04:42] <dirkvdbroek> ok, in the x config, should glx be on and GL core?
[04:43] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: you want the *default* config.
[04:43] <sam_> Hello
[04:43] <dirkvdbroek> ok, so I'm pressing enter at the ok's nothing more :)(
[04:43] <sam_> I'm having a small problem, could anybody help me please?
[04:43] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: hell, if you can find the original config - dpkg usually backs it up - in /etc/X11/ ?
[04:43] <_jason> sam_, we can try if you ask a question
[04:44] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: the one dpkg generated when you first installed the system
[04:44] <Stork> ccooke, should i un-install the nvidia drivers?
[04:44] <ccooke> Stork: certainly for now.
[04:44] <ccooke> I'm not sure how you've got the mismatched version
[04:44] <ccooke> Stork: have you installed any drivers from a third party site?
[04:44] <jaek> anyone know if there are firefox 1.5 packages?
[04:45] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[04:45] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:45] <_jason> jaek, I don't believe there are any
[04:45] <Stork> ccooke, nope
[04:45] <ccooke> Stork: very odd.
[04:45] <jaek> debian unstable uses 1.5... is ubuntu behind debian?
[04:45] <Catch22> installing the packages takes forever
[04:45] <gnomefreak> ubuntu unstable uses 1.5
[04:46] <gnomefreak> mind you the term unstable means different than debian unstable tho :(
[04:46] <dirkvdbroek> it was called default.conf
[04:46] <jaek> so i cant set it to use the unstable package for ff1.5 only?
[04:46] <sam_> I installed Ubuntu yesterday, and I have had just one problem. I have an nVidia FX5200 Graphics card on my computer, but the highest resolution it will reach is 1024*768. I have used this card in windows at 1280*1024, no problems. It seems ubuntu wont let me even higher the resolution, the highest availiable is 1024*768, any ideas why?
[04:46] <dirkvdbroek> ok thateoneworked
[04:46] <gnomefreak> jaek, no
[04:47] <gnomefreak> jaek, the wiki is self explantory and isnt that hard to upgrade to 1.5
[04:47] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, my problems are not resulting from the fact I installed breezy before official release?
[04:47] <Stork> ccooke, still doesn't help. i did "sudp apt-get remove nvidia-glx"
[04:47] <jaek> sam_, install the restricted kernel modules
[04:47] <dirkvdbroek> I thought it's updated fully by now
[04:47] <drmr> where is kernel source in ubuntu?
[04:48] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: probably not. I did the same.
[04:48] <dirkvdbroek> linux-headers, in /usr/src
[04:48] <Stork> ccooke, any ideas?
[04:48] <jaek> gnomefreak, that method still seems messy in comparsison with a package
[04:48] <sam_> What are the Restricted kernel modules? I'm a bit of a newby, you see.
[04:48] <drmr> linux-headers is kernel source?
[04:48] <ccooke> Stork: you need to reconfigure X - 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[04:48] <dirkvdbroek> arg. I changed ati to fglrx, gives me exactely the same error!
[04:48] <gnomefreak> jaek, its really not bad but its up to you
[04:48] <dirkvdbroek> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[04:49] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: okay, a quick check: lsmod | grep agp
[04:49] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: anything there?
[04:50] <dirkvdbroek> intel_agp              23420  1
[04:50] <dirkvdbroek> agpgart                35436  2 fglrx,intel_agp
[04:50] <Stork> ccooke, ooh, it worked
[04:50] <dirkvdbroek> I don't want agpgart, but it gets loaded
[04:50] <dirkvdbroek> cannot unload it
[04:50] <dirkvdbroek> intel agp shouldn't be there either
[04:50] <sam_> Can somebody tell me what "the resticted kernel modules" are? And how do I run / install them?
[04:50] <dirkvdbroek> should be taken care of by the internal agpgart
[04:50] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: it's fine. That means you *must* turn off the internal AGP support in the ATI driver
[04:50] <steven__> hey how do i get my burner working?
[04:50] <mindlace> hello ... I am compiling openldap from scratch because it is effectively orphaned and the ubuntu/debian versions are *extremely slow* running under 2.6.+ kernels
[04:51] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, well, it's turned off afaik
[04:51] <Catch22> nice, screen is fucked up in gui mode
[04:51] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: you have: Option          "UseInternalAGPGART"    "off"
[04:51] <jbroome> that's a feature
[04:51] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, would you be so kind to post your xorg.conf  so I can compare?
[04:51] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: in your xorg.conf?
[04:51] <dirkvdbroek> yes
[04:52] <Stork> ccooke, now my game doesn't work
[04:52] <mindlace> so i'm wondering what addl level of work i should do -
[04:52] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: sure. Mine's a two monitor setup for my laptop (so it works fine without two)
[04:52] <Wesker> http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8250349906&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
[04:52] <mindlace> try to make my own deb?
[04:52] <mindlace> try to talk to the maintainers?
[04:52] <dirkvdbroek> I'm on a pc here, but shouldnt differ
[04:52] <dirkvdbroek> is there a file dump on this channel somewhere?
[04:53] <MacSlow> Madpilot, michuk: ehm... how to enable sshd under Ubuntu 5.10?
[04:53] <mindlace> MacSlow: apt-get install ssh
[04:53] <mindlace> or
[04:53] <mindlace> sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[04:54] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, would you know how to conveniently dump a config file here?
[04:54] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6893
[04:54] <steven__> when running k3b to burn cds should i be a superuser or ?
[04:54] <robotsg> hey folks, settin up ndiswrap to bring up wlan0 on boot. I added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules and added iface wlan0 inet and 2 lines for essid/mode below in /etc/network/interfaces... anything else?
[04:55] <Madpilot> steven__: you shouldn't have to be
[04:55] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: try using that file as-is (the resolutions are likely wrong, but X should auto-detect and correct that for you)
[04:55] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: (if not... just change them)
[04:55] <mindlace> dirirkvdbrook: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting
[04:55] <steven__> Madpilot, ok ty
[04:56] <n00dle> Hi there. Was just wondering how i might find out if I have apache installed on my ubuntu box.
[04:56] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I will know enough when I get the same error - that it's not in the xorg.conf files
[04:56] <dirkvdbroek> and that I should start 'cleaning up'
[04:56] <Madpilot> n00dle: it's not there by default, AFAIK...
[04:56] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: ah, wait - you'll need to change the PCI entries, I expect
[04:56] <gnomefreak> n00dle, locate apache
[04:56] <mindlace> n00dle: dpkg -l | grep apache
[04:56] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: you can get the correct ones from lspci
[04:56] <n00dle> maddler - Cool.
[04:56] <n00dle> but yeah, dpkg is what i was looking for.
[04:56] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I know
[04:57] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: if there's only one entry there, use the same twice.
[04:57] <mindlace> I am also suddenly fond of "wajig", n00dle - it is kind of like a super-apt
[04:57] <steven__> if i may ask, what is openoffice? from what i can tell its a Microsoft Word for linux but what extensions are the files saved in, and can they be opened in microsoft word?
[04:57] <n00dle> hm wajig..
[04:57] <mindlace> sudo apt-get install wajig && wajig list-commands
[04:57] <n00dle> i sees.
[04:57] <n00dle> i'll grab that, thanks.
[04:58] <Madpilot> steven__: OpenOffice can read MS formats, MSOffice can't read OOo
[04:58] <steven__> Madpilot, aw :(
[04:58] <Madpilot> steven__: but OOo can save in MS formats if you need it to...
[04:58] <gnomefreak> Madpilot, and peopel wonder why OOo is better :)
[04:58] <steven__> Madpilot, just asking because i have alot of reports to do under MSOffice for a class im taking
[04:58] <Myrtti> "MS formats"
[04:58] <steven__> yes thats what i need
[04:58] <mindlace> It is very hard to maintain a php5 machine and use debian/ubuntu packages
[04:59] <n00dle> Errrr.
[04:59] <Ng> it's not that hard
[04:59] <steven__> and i would rather use something on linux than having to pirate a copy of MSOffice because i damn sure as hell am not going to go buy it
[04:59] <Catch22> well, it DOES recognize my wlan card _O_
[04:59] <Ng> there are php5 packages knocking about
[04:59] <Madpilot> steven__: OOo for Windows exists too
[04:59] <steven__> Madpilot, no windows. i want linux ;)
[04:59] <Ng> in fact php5 is in ubuntu
[05:00] <edoardo> soundray, dude, you still there?
[05:00] <steven__> Madpilot, but OOo can save in MSOffice types so i can open the files in MSOffice in school to print it?
[05:00] <n00dle> err.
[05:00] <edoardo> soundray, had to leave, prolly missed your answer : )
[05:00] <n00dle> why can't a su to root.
[05:00] <n00dle> i dont even remember setting a root password in installation.
[05:00] <Madpilot> n00dle: use sudo, not su
[05:00] <mindlace> I have no problem with the php5 packages, it's the dependencies of other php software like horde and whatnot that are obnoxious
[05:00] <jordo23> n00dle: sudo sh
[05:00] <n00dle> i did.. and it failed.
[05:00] <Madpilot> !tell n00dle about sudo
[05:00] <n00dle> package wajig has no installation candidate.
[05:00] <Madpilot> n00dle: use your own user pw
[05:01] <n00dle> sudo fails with it.
[05:01] <netstar> what font does the ubuntu logo use?
[05:01] <n00dle> for some other reason, probably unrelated.
[05:01] <_jason> n00dle, do sudo -s
[05:01] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, just as I was afraid of: I have more severe problems than these
[05:01] <dirkvdbroek> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV"
[05:01] <dirkvdbroek> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[05:01] <dirkvdbroek> again!
[05:01] <mindlace> dunno, might want to update, n00dle?
[05:01] <dirkvdbroek> this is with your config
[05:01] <mathew> netstar, they don't have a font.. it's a custom logo
[05:01] <kane__> hey everybody...
[05:02] <mathew> from the faq on the site
[05:02] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: ... heh. ls -l /dev/agpgart?
[05:02] <netstar> thanks matthew
[05:02] <mathew> sure
[05:02] <kane__> does anyone know how to use jackd ???
[05:02] <n00dle> okay, that works
[05:02] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: are you in the video group?
[05:02] <n00dle> but still
[05:02] <mathew> let me look for the link just to make sure I'm not lying to you by mistake
[05:02] <n00dle> i think wajig is broken.
[05:02] <mindlace> probably want to update your /etc/apt/sources.list to include universe n00dle
[05:02] <dirkvdbroek> crw-rw----  1 root video 10, 175 2006-01-10 16:05 /dev/agpgart
[05:02] <n00dle> hm, ok
[05:02] <dirkvdbroek> definately there
[05:02] <dirkvdbroek> root is
[05:02] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: (although that shouldn't matter)
[05:02] <dirkvdbroek> and my username too
[05:02] <Madpilot> netstar: there's a font called "Ubuntu Title" that you can get off the Ubuntu wiki
[05:02] <dirkvdbroek> I guess that's setup ok
[05:02] <mindlace> maybe also that other place (basically uncomment out the lines)
[05:02] <mindlace> then apt-get update
[05:02] <netstar> thank Madpilot
[05:03] <dirkvdbroek> arg. weird, stuff
[05:03] <_jason> ubotu, tell netstar about art
[05:03] <_jason> netstar, I think it is somewhere around there
[05:03] <Catch22> how can i change my network name in ubuntu ?
[05:03] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: right. try a reboot. The ATI cards can get a touch odd after you've tried strange things with them
[05:04] <soundray> Catch22, do you mean the domain name or the hostname?
[05:04] <n00dle> okay, i uncommented the lines in sources.list and am updating.
[05:04] <Catch22> host
[05:04] <Madpilot> netstar: Ubuntu Title is on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[05:04] <n00dle> it's kinda strange.. making a connection to something takes absolutely ages.
[05:04] <soundray> Catch22, edit /etc/hostname
[05:04] <alekandr> Anyone know how to add something too run on boot?
[05:04] <n00dle> i'm getting full speed downloads, but even http get's take like 10 seconds.
[05:04] <thegladiator> !image
[05:04] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, thegladiator
[05:05] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I'll try. however, according to a quick google, the error I'm getting is related to bad kernel agp drivers.
[05:05] <soundray> n00dle, sounds like your first DNS entry times out.
[05:05] <_jason> n00dle, disable ipv6
[05:05] <dirkvdbroek> I might try to reinstall breezy tonight - i never intended to spend much time on that system, just try out stuff and run mplayer
[05:05] <dirkvdbroek> getting quite sick of this ;)
[05:06] <mindlace> alekandr: add a script to /etc/rc.5.d
[05:06] <alekandr> thanks
[05:06] <gnomefreak> _jason, is there a dapper artwork?
[05:06] <mindlace> or, to be a little more "proper", add a script to /etc/init.d that accepts "start" "stop" "restart" as arguments and link it to /etc/rc.5.d
[05:06] <mathew> netstar .. I knew I had read it somewhere... find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.
[05:06] <mathew> shit.. sorry
[05:06] <_jason> gnomefreak, no idea
[05:07] <mathew> http://lists.ubuntulinux.org/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-May/036103.html
[05:07] <gnomefreak> ok ty just checking
[05:07] <Elsan_> How does OSS-ALSA emulation work? Can I hear multiple sounds including from an OSS app?
[05:07] <kane__> after I install any program it writes this:   E: lilypond-data: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1. What is it??? how can I get rid of it???
[05:07] <mindlace> Can anyone tell me what to do to get the stable current version of slapd (that actually works with a 2.6x kernel) into ubuntu?
[05:07] <mindlace> Like, what my next step should be?
[05:08] <Seveas> nvidia
[05:08] <Seveas> !nvidia
[05:08] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:08] <Seveas> !password
[05:08] <ubotu> Seveas: I haven't a clue
[05:08] <Seveas> !passwords
[05:08] <ubotu> Seveas: Are you on ritalin?
[05:08] <mindlace> I could try to make a replacement package for the current 2.2.23 that is in ubuntu
[05:08] <Seveas> !password is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StrongPasswords
[05:08] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[05:08] <Ng> mindlace: I'm just running the one that's in main and it seems fine
[05:08] <n00dle> Cool.
[05:08] <Ng> 2.2.26
[05:08] <Catch22> soundray how do i edit that file?
[05:08] <Seveas> !passwords is <reply> see password
[05:08] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[05:08] <n00dle> Wajig installed, and now i'm running install apache2
[05:08] <mindlace> Do you have multiple CPU's, Ng?
[05:08] <n00dle> seems to be going okay.
[05:08] <Ng> mindlace: nope
[05:08] <mindlace> cool!
[05:09] <soundray> Catch22, e.g. 'sudo gedit /etc/hostname'
[05:09] <aeg> is there a vpn package installed on 5.10 ?
[05:10] <tokyoahead> what is the standard root password for new ubuntu installs??
[05:10] <n00dle> its locked.
[05:10] <mindlace> Ng: it's a concurrency problem with multiple accesses & multiple processes involving slapd and sched_yield()
[05:10] <ccooke> tokyoahead: there isn't one.
[05:10] <ccooke> !root
[05:10] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:10] <mindlace> Ng: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0508.2/0511.html
[05:10] <Madpilot> tokyoahead: use sudo & your user pw instead
[05:10] <mindlace> Anyway, on my dual athlon it takes many, many seconds to respond to queries if >1 user is bound
[05:10] <gnomefreak> apg looks cool :)
[05:11] <Catch22> where do i set the resolution for the login screen ?
[05:11] <Storkme> hi, i am having trouble playing quake4 on ubuntu. it keeps telling me it "Couldn't find matching GLX visual". I have the latest nvidia drivers installed, i don't know what the problem is
[05:11] <lowman62> hey gnomefreak wassup?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> Catch22, i dont think you can atleast the only way i found was to set a different log-in screen
[05:11] <gnomefreak> gm lowman62
[05:11] <aeg> pls advice a address for my sources.list !
[05:12] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[05:12] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:12] <Madpilot> !tell aeg about sources
[05:12] <lowman62> gnomefreak: gm :)
[05:12] <j2daosh> ok... just noticed something that might explain why my comp just up and restarts on its own on me... i have the i686 kernel... next to the distro info it says testing/unstable.... why is that?
[05:12] <aeg> thx
[05:13] <gnomefreak> j2daosh, what version ar eyou running?
[05:13] <Storkme> hi, i am having trouble playing quake4 on ubuntu. it keeps telling me it "Couldn't find matching GLX visual". I have the latest nvidia drivers installed, i don't know what the problem is. How can i tell what my graphics card drivers are? i did "apt-get install nvidia-glx" and it worked fine, but i still can't get them to work
[05:13] <j2daosh> and what sys log do i need to turn on to find out what is going on when it just decides to restart
[05:13] <j2daosh> 2.6.12-10-386
[05:13] <gnomefreak> j2daosh, any dapper or etch repos enabled?
[05:13] <CarinArr> storkme, do you have the latest drivers or the latest ones available through synaptic?
[05:14] <j2daosh> lol any wha?
[05:14] <Catch22> is there some tools which allows me to view and connect available networks?
[05:14] <Storkme> yeh, i just said
[05:14] <CarinArr> heh you can't answer yes to an or question
[05:14] <j2daosh> i dont know about dapper but i got the multiverse and universe repos
[05:14] <Storkme> oh sorry i misread
[05:14] <Storkme> CarinArr, from synaptic
[05:14] <gnomefreak> j2daosh, than im not sure :(
[05:15] <j2daosh> dapper comes out in april eh?
[05:15] <thegladiator> netstar, are you there ?
[05:15] <gnomefreak> 20th
[05:15] <netstar> yeah
[05:15] <gnomefreak> give or take
[05:15] <CarinArr> there are actually ones that are much more recent, you might want to try those.. but you'd have to get them from nvidia
[05:15] <j2daosh> is that when its stable for final release or will it still be in beta phase?
[05:15] <thegladiator> here is the photo I took with my digital cam , for my memtest86+ ------------- > http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc002956kh.jp
[05:15] <soundray> Storkme, have you changed /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[05:15] <thegladiator> can someone tell me if the memory is really damaged ?
[05:15] <Storkme> soundray, what do i change it to?
[05:16] <thegladiator> a full block of 256 looks destroyed
[05:16] <cellulenoire> plz i need help
[05:16] <soundray> Storkme, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:16] <thegladiator> http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc002956kh.jpg
[05:16] <soundray> Storkme, select nvidia instead of nv for the drivers.
[05:16] <CarinArr> you can just run glxconfig...
[05:16] <Storkme> ok
[05:16] <thegladiator> typo before ... the real thing is ^
[05:17] <soundray> Storkme, ubotu also has some info...
[05:17] <CarinArr> might be easier:)
[05:17] <soundray> ubotu, tell Storkme about nvidia
[05:17] <tokyoahead> how do I get aditional software like thunderbird? is ther something like yum or emerge in ubuntu?
[05:17] <thegladiator> is my memory damaged netstar ?
[05:17] <yggdrasil_> tokyoahead sudo synaptic
[05:17] <yggdrasil_> or sudo apt-get
[05:17] <yggdrasil_> is the cmd line version
[05:18] <Catch22> is there some tools which allows me to view and connect available networks?
[05:18] <thegladiator> can someone see this memtest86+ result and tell me  if it is damaged ?
[05:18] <netstar> yes thegladiator
[05:18] <wogi> Good morning, ubuntuians!
[05:18] <thegladiator> I can ask for a replacement correct ? its a case of damaged mem right ?
[05:18] <Storkme> soundray, do i need to restart the xserver now?
[05:18] <lowman62> wogi: gm :)
[05:19] <Madpilot> thegladiator: it's new memory?
[05:19] <thegladiator> yeah less than a year
[05:19] <thegladiator> i bought it in FEB 2005
[05:19] <thegladiator> and this is how it fares
[05:19] <MacSlow> Madpilot: after apt-get install ssh openssh-server /etc/init.d/sshd is still not found
[05:19] <thegladiator> its almost completely damaged
[05:19] <MacSlow> Madpilot, is there another package still needed?
[05:19] <soundray> Storkme, yes. Best to also run 'sudo depmod -a' and reboot if you haven't done so since the nvidia package install.
[05:19] <thegladiator> could this be caused due to dust or something ?
[05:20] <thegladiator> Madpilot, that cud be caused due to dust
[05:20] <thegladiator> ?
[05:20] <soundray> thegladiator, very unlikely. I think your memory is properly fouled up.
[05:20] <thegladiator> ah
[05:21] <Stork> soundray, after doing that, the xserver gives me this error: "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"
[05:21] <thegladiator> so i am gonna ask for replacement
[05:21] <Madpilot> !tell MacSlow about ssh
[05:21] <n00dle> hm, how do i restart apache?
[05:21] <Madpilot> MacSlow: I've only set SSH up once, have a look at that wiki page for more
[05:21] <edoardo> soundray, awright, i'm here : )
[05:21] <MacSlow> Madpilot, cool thanks for the pointer!
[05:21] <edoardo> soundray, also, can i have a tip about rsync?
[05:22] <thegladiator> i have been having many inconsistencies with Win XP and ubuntu . thank god ubuntu has a memtest enabled , othersie I would have never found out this problem
[05:22] <soundray> Stork, okay, this is probably fixed by 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)' and rebooting.
[05:22] <Madpilot> !tell n00dle about apache
[05:22] <soundray> Storkme, okay, this is probably fixed by 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)' and rebooting.
[05:22] <thegladiator> memtest86+ is a must feature for every desk/laptop
[05:22] <soundray> Sorry Stork, if you're listening.
[05:22] <Madpilot> n00dle: that link has start/stop/restart comands for Apache
[05:22] <soundray> edoardo, I'll to help if I can.
[05:22] <soundray> *try to
[05:23] <meepy> !tell meepy about ssh
[05:23] <Stork> soundray, i'm already on the latest version, it says
[05:23] <soundray> Stork, have you rebooted after installing linux-restri...
[05:23] <tokyoahead> what package type do usually need for ubuntu when downloading software? redhat? debian?
[05:23] <soundray> ?
[05:24] <Stork> soundray, yeh
[05:24] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, ok, thanks for you help, off to do other things!
[05:24] <Stork> soundray, i just did
[05:24] <lowman62> n00dle: I believe it is /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:24] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: no problem. Good luck.
[05:24] <Catch22> is there some tools which allows me to view and connect available networks?
[05:24] <edoardo> soundray, like if i do rsync -az /media/IAUDIO/VOICE . and in '.' there's a directory called VOICE, will it overwrite the files with new ones if they have the same name, or if some files are identical will it notice that and not update'em? it's an efficiency question really : )
[05:24] <soundray> Stork, did you do the depmod thing?
[05:25] <John138671> ho
[05:25] <lowman62> be back after lunch..laterz
[05:25] <tokyoahead> is there a rpm packaga of thunderbird I can download on ubuntu? there is nothing on syanptic and apt-get
[05:26] <soundray> edoardo, rsync overwrites target files with same-name source files, unless they are identical already. That's its big advantage over cp.
[05:27] <kane__> How do I run JACK server???
[05:27] <edoardo> soundray, that's what i wanted to know : )
[05:27] <edoardo> soundray, thankyou dude! : )
[05:27] <soundray> edoardo, note the --dry-run and --backup options for when you're playing with rsync.
[05:27] <edoardo> soundray, uh, and about the sync option with gnome-volume-manager?
[05:28] <computerdude> What does checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:28] <computerdude>  mean? I'm trying to get eggdrop working.
[05:28] <Stork> soundray, no i didn't, i'll try that now
[05:28] <wb> tokyoahead: sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[05:28] <soundray> edoardo, you must have not been listening... I couldn't find any way to mount -o sync with gnome-volume-manager.
[05:28] <Madpilot> computerdude: have you installed build-essential?
[05:29] <edoardo> soundray, yeah, was away for a while : ) too bad you couldn't find any : )
[05:29] <computerdude> Problay not, Do i need build-essential?
[05:29] <soundray> edoardo, you will need to educate your dad about not removing USB sticks too early...
[05:29] <computerdude> I'm installing it now. I'll see what it does.
[05:29] <Madpilot> computerdude: it's got the compilers & stuff
[05:29] <computerdude> Ok
[05:29] <edoardo> soundray, well... how early? does it change every time?
[05:29] <tokyoahead> wb I just found that out but I get some error saying its not avail. but is referred to by another package... what does that mean?
[05:29] <jordo23> Anyone here from Canada?  I have a question about canadian ISP's.
[05:29] <thegladiator> c compiler problems are caused mainly due to lack of essentials
[05:29] <Sanne> kane__: hold on
[05:30] <soundray> edoardo, the safe answer is: Remove after unmounting, not before.
[05:30] <kane__> Sanne, OK
[05:30] <edoardo> soundray, awright, i'll just tell him then : )
[05:30] <edoardo> soundray, thankyou dude! : )
[05:30] <Madpilot> jordo23: .ca here - what's up?
[05:30] <soundray> edoardo, unmounting is easy enough.
[05:30] <soundray> edoardo, welcome.
[05:30] <simon_> ive just installed ubuntu.
[05:30] <simon_> looks very nice. goodjob
[05:30] <computerdude> Thanks, it's compiling now.
[05:31] <jordo23> MadPilot: I am a network admin and we have a company in canada, do you know who are the major players there as far as T1 service?
[05:31] <wb> tokyoahead, i am not sure, it should be available, cause it is in a ubuntu support repository
[05:31] <Stork> soundray, same problem
[05:31] <Elsan_> How does OSS-ALSA emulation work? Can I hear multiple sounds including from an OSS app?
[05:31] <Madpilot> jordo23: no idea, actually...
[05:31] <tokyoahead> wb is there a way to search at-get?
[05:32] <alekandr> Anyone know how to change the server signature on apache?
[05:32] <Elsan_> jordo23: The one I know of is Sympatico in Quebec, I don't know if Videotron offers T1
[05:32] <Madpilot> tokyoahead: use Synaptic, it's got search
[05:32] <Stork> soundray, "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"
[05:32] <soundray> Stork, you seem to have found a bug, then.
[05:32] <Sanne> kane__: just to clarify: you mean the low latency audio server?
[05:32] <wb> tokyoahaed, try synaptic
[05:32] <kane__> Sanne, yes.
[05:32] <tokyoahead> wb I ried out but its greyed out
[05:32] <Sanne> kane__: I'm finding a forum post for you, sec
[05:32] <tokyoahead> thunderbid that is
[05:32] <Stork> soundray, congrats for me
[05:33] <soundray> Stork, I have a laptop with nvidia stuff here, I'll boot it and try the update on it if you're patient.
[05:33] <Stork> ok thanks
[05:33] <jordo23> Thanks guys
[05:33] <Stork> i'm getting annoyed with ubuntu now, it's soo difficult to game
[05:33] <wb> tokyoahead, sry I don't know why it is greyed out.
[05:33] <tokyoahead> ok
[05:33] <soundray> Stork, no reason to get annoyed with Ubuntu.
[05:34] <Stork> well i'm considering going back to windows
[05:34] <soundray> Stork, your ire should go to NVidia. Things would be so much easier if they opened their hw specs.
[05:34] <Stork> all i really want to do is game, and it takes hours to set up quake4
[05:34] <ejofee_> in kde / kcontrol / appearance and themes / [desktop's]  background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" [from the internet] , a window *immediately* pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me?
[05:35] <Sanne> kane__: setup instructions: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=562993#post562993
[05:35] <Sanne> kane__: background: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=552543#post552543
[05:35] <soundray> Stork, what made you go to Ubuntu in the first place?
[05:36] <Sanne> kane__: that's it :)
[05:36] <kane__> Sanne, thanx a lot...
[05:36] <Sanne> kane__: you're welcome
[05:36] <soundray> Stork, btw, did you run apt-get update before you installed the glx and restricted stuff?
[05:36] <Stork> soundray, because i'm too poor for windows
[05:37] <CarinArr> stork, it might very well be you need newer drivers.. but linux still involves a certain amount of work when things go wrong.. it isn't windows.
[05:37] <Manifold> Hey
[05:37] <grundo> im on linux side!
[05:37] <soundray> Stork, I can sympathize with that :)
[05:37] <Stork> it's curious, it worked a while ago
[05:37] <Manifold> I'm using Sylpheed 2.1.1, how do I view my inbox on a POP3 server without downloading from it?
[05:37] <Stork> then i reboot and it stops working
[05:37] <CarinArr> Stork, hmm.. have you updated the linux kernel?
[05:38] <Stork> yes
[05:38] <Stork> can i get the old kernel back?
[05:38] <soundray> CarinArr, at least it's possible to do the work. In Windows, when you're stuck, you're stuck (often enough).
[05:38] <Sanne> kane__: if you don't care for realtime audio, you can start jack comfortably with the qjackctl gui, though, and won't need rtlimits.
[05:38] <soundray> Stork, what's your uname -r output?
[05:39] <Locke> what is a good program for writing floppy images?
[05:39] <Stork> 2.6.12-10-386
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  'dd'    is normally used for that
[05:39] <computerdude> What all do i install to have TCL running right?
[05:39] <kane__> Sanne, OK I'll try that and see...
[05:39] <Sanne> kane__: good luck
[05:39] <Locke> Dr_Willis: and that is?
[05:39] <Stork> soundray, 2.6.12-10-386
[05:39] <soundray> Stork, do you use synaptic for package management?
[05:39] <Stork> nope
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  thats the name of the command  ' dd '
[05:39] <Stork> well i did
[05:40] <CarinArr> stork, if you upgraded from 2.6.12-9 to 2.6.12-10 you will probably have the earlier kernel as an option in grub
[05:40] <Stork> soundray, i did when i had xserver working
[05:40] <Locke> Dr_Willis: i tried it and nothing happened
[05:40] <CarinArr> when you boot
[05:40] <Stork> CarinArr, originally i had the one that came on the 5.10 install disk
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  dd if=floppy.image of=/dev/fd0 or similer. Its used all the time to make and write images like that
[05:40] <CarinArr> Stork, try rebooting, and seeing what options you have in grub
[05:40] <Stork> hmm ok
[05:41] <CarinArr> the top one would be the most recent one, try going down one version number from that if you can
[05:42] <Locke> Dr_Willis: anything else to use?
[05:42] <CarinArr> i'm using the latest kernel, but it doesn't work with the nvidia drivers in synaptic, i had to get the ones from nvidia
[05:42] <chris_> hi all, new to ubuntu and linux, but its very rewarding if you make the effort.
[05:42] <soundray> Stork, good hint from CarinArr. You may have to hit Esc during boot to see the grub menu.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  never really needed anything else :P
[05:42] <Stork> soundray, CarinArr, VICTORY! the old kernel works fine
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  could use cat, or cp also i guess
[05:42] <Locke> Dr_Willis: then your gonna have to help me a little :-\
[05:43] <Stork> soundray, CarinArr, so i guess the new kernel just doesn't have a supporting nvidia driver yet?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  'dd' is a simple 'data dump' type tool. it just takes data from one source and copies it to another.  whats the exact issue you are having.
[05:43] <soundray> Stork, you can probably just uninstall the newer one then, and grub will boot into the working one by default.
[05:43] <soundray> Stork, yes, it looks like it.
[05:43] <CarinArr> Stork, i dunno.. it might be we're just unlucky and it works to others.. i got it working with the new nvidia drivers, but it's more faffing about than using the ones in synaptic
[05:44] <Locke> Dr_Willis: i'm trying to make a floppy disk with Smartboot on it
[05:44] <CarinArr> but i have to use software that needs drivers that are newer than the synaptic ones, so i don't have much choice;)
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  not siure what you mean by 'make'  and not sure what 'smartboot' is.   you mean  you are just tryring to get some floppy.image you downloaded to a real floppy disk?
[05:45] <Stork> my game still doesn't work lol
[05:45] <monyetz> make
[05:45] <CarinArr> stork, did the game use to work?
[05:45] <Locke> Dr_Willis: in a nutshell, yes
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  that takes us back to the orginal dd command line i gave.
[05:45] <Stork> CarinArr, yeah
[05:46] <CarinArr> stork, weird.. same error as before?
[05:46] <Locke> Dr_Willis: well i played with it a little and now my floppy drive SOUNDS like it's working... but it has been sounding like that for a little while now
[05:46] <Stork> CarinArr, nope, a wierd new one
[05:46] <CarinArr> what's it say now?
[05:46] <Stork> one sec
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  not much i can help ya with till it either gets done - or spits out an error. :P it can take some time..
[05:47] <Locke> Dr_Willis: well, it says done, so lets try this thing out
[05:47] <soundray> Stork, do you get sensible output from glxinfo? You could put it up on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for us to see. Your weird error, too.
[05:47] <Storkme> ok
[05:48] <Guardian> how to have suspend to disk working on my laptop ? do i need to recompile the kernel ?
[05:48] <Locke> Dr_Willis: sweet, it worked (btw, smartboot is a disk that is used to boot Ubuntu from older computers that don't support booting from a CD Drive, it just boots from the floppy and tells the PC to go to the CD drive instead)
[05:48] <Locke> Dr_Willis: thanks
[05:49] <Storkme> soundray, CarinArr, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6895
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  :P i imatgine theres a smarttool wiki page then that detailed exactly what i told  ya :P
[05:49] <soundray> Guardian, no. Just look at the laptop-mode-tools package.
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  heh - i have exactly 1 pc now that has a floppy disk.. out of like 5
[05:49] <Storkme> soundray, and i can't use glxinfo - it says "Segmentation fault"
[05:49] <Guardian> soundray: thx
[05:49] <alekandr> Why are the forums not working :|
[05:50] <Locke> Dr_Willis: yeah, well i'm going to college and paying rent, so computers are hard to come by for me
[05:50] <soundray> Storkme, uh oh.
[05:50] <Storkme> uh oh?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  Linux helps ya save $$ :p
[05:50] <tokyoahead> what is the std. boot manager of ubuntu?
[05:51] <alekandr> gnome TokenBad
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> Forums seem to be down.
[05:51] <alekandr> gnome tokyoahead
[05:51] <alekandr> thats what i just said Dr_Willis
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> I think he may mean GRUB. :P
[05:51] <soundray> Storkme, that won't be easy to track down and/or fix. Could even be a hardware fault.
[05:51] <alekandr> not gnome
[05:51] <alekandr> GRUB
[05:51] <alekandr> man :/
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:51] <Storkme> soundray, oh good
[05:51] <alekandr> oh man
[05:51] <tokyoahead> alekandr thanks :-)
[05:51] <alekandr> lost it there
[05:51] <soundray> Storkme, at least you're taking it in good spirit.
[05:51] <CarinArr> storkme, i reckon there are two things you can try.. you can try uninstalling the newer kernel, and then reinstalling the nvidia driver
[05:52] <tokyoahead> How do I set up grub? I cannot find a conf ind /etc
[05:52] <Storkme> how do i uninstall the newer kernel?
[05:52] <computerdude> Where can I get TCL for eggdrop?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> tokyoahead,  because its in /boot/grub :P
[05:52] <tokyoahead> hehe thanks :-)
[05:52] <nate2006> hi everyone
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> tokyoahead,  it may be worth wile  to read a few grub tutorials :)
[05:52] <CarinArr> Storkme, second thing you can try to do is remove everything to do with nvidia, including the linux-restricted-modules. go back to the newer kernel, and install the drivers you get from nvidia directly..
[05:53] <nate2006> I'm new to this linux based OS
[05:53] <soundray> Storkme, 'sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.12-10-386' I think...
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> tokyoahead,  heh heh. lilo config is normally in /etc/lilo.conf
[05:53] <zAo^> forum down?
[05:53] <Ng> computerdude: tcl8.4 is in main, so sudo apt-get install tcl8.4
[05:53] <Locke> Dr_Willis: Linux helps you save $$ and sanity
[05:53] <soundray> nate2006, welcome to Ubuntu then.
[05:53] <nate2006> is there a chat or some info that would be good for a newbie
[05:53] <computerdude> Thanks Ng
[05:53] <nate2006> ty
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  yep. and it ups your Leet-Level!
[05:54] <computerdude> Ng: Do I need to restart?
[05:54] <Madpilot> nate2006: right here, or ubuntuforums.org
[05:54] <Ng> computerdude: no :)
[05:54] <nate2006> cool
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> nate2006,  also #linux, and #linuxhelp
[05:54] <Locke> Dr_Willis: wow... lol
[05:54] <e_machinist> I had to move my linux box into my bedroom... cause there is a leak in the roof above my desk... yikes.
[05:54] <computerdude> Hmm, well it's already installed on, but I still can compile eggdrop. It says   Tcl cannot be found on this system.
[05:54] <nate2006> I just found out today that I can get source code and alter it to anything I want
[05:55] <narles> anyone know how to fix this problem when i open up a . jar file...? /usr/share/themes/ish-Smooth/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:103: Engine "smooth" is unsupported, ignoring
[05:55] <nate2006> that sound cool
[05:55] <tokyoahead> is there a gnome application to setup grub ? (what is default etc)
[05:55] <soundray> nate2006, it is. Even if you never actually do it, the benefits of free source availability are massive.
[05:56] <Stork> CarinArr, soundray: you guys are my gods
[05:56] <e_machinist> tokyoahead: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=grub&titlesearch=Titles
[05:56] <student> During the "Copy remaining packages to hard disk" stage, I receive an error:  "archive-copier: error: `cp -a "/cdrom/pool/main/x/xscreensaver/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb" "/target/var/cache/archive-copier/desktop/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb"` failed with code 1".
[05:56] <student> Does anyone know what this is?
[05:56] <soundray> Stork, careful!
[05:56] <Stork> CarinArr, soundray: it works fine. Beers & curry on me!
[05:57] <CarinArr> Stork, cool, glad that my hours of trying to bloody figure out why the damn things don't work could be of help
[05:57] <soundray> Stork, you might get struck by lightning from another god.
[05:57] <CarinArr> heh
[05:57] <Stork> meh, oh well
[05:57] <n00dle> Hm.
[05:58] <soundray> Stork, so you're quaking now?
[05:58] <n00dle> Okay, so apache is running and i've set a directory with Options Indexes
[05:58] <Stork> indeed
[05:58] <n00dle> i can see the html files inside the folder showing up fine on the webserver
[05:58] <Stork> my pc is "leet"
[05:58] <Stork> for gaming
[05:58] <n00dle> but i get 'permission denied' trying to access any file.
[05:58] <Stork> except the cpu :\
[05:58] <soundray> Stork, well done. Good work, CarinArr!
[05:58] <student> I think ubuntu is not created enough space in the tmpfs during installation.  How can I increase it?
[05:59] <CarinArr> lol soundray i'm still astonished i wasn't the one going "HELP ME" for once
[05:59] <noone> ojla
[05:59] <Stork> heh
[05:59] <noone> ej a je gdo gor
[05:59] <noone> prvic uporablam to rec
[06:00] <narles> anyone know how to fix this problem when i open up a . jar file...? /usr/share/themes/ish-Smooth/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:103: Engine "smooth" is unsupported, ignoring
[06:00] <netstar> narles, yes
[06:00] <student> what is an LVM volume and do I need it?
[06:00] <netstar> Install the gtk engine smooth
[06:00] <netstar> art.gnome.org under engines
[06:00] <narles> netstar, thanks, i'll chec it out
[06:01] <netstar> let's see your screenshot man
[06:01] <soundray> student, LVM = logical volume management.
[06:01] <student> soundray: how do I know if I should select this option during installation?
[06:01] <soundray> student, if you're unsure, don't do it.
[06:01] <Stork> this game is AWESOME on high graphics :)
[06:01] <netstar> which game?
[06:02] <BxL> where is the official ubuntu starter guide?
[06:02] <narles> netstar, is this what i need.. http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk_engines/673
[06:02] <soundray> student, the default works well enough, and if one day you find that you need LVM, e.g. for accessing multiple hd's as one large pseudo-partition, you can still read up on it and add it on.
[06:02] <student> okay.  well during installation, during "copying remaining packages to hard disk" I apparently have run out of room on the tmpfs.
[06:02] <netstar> narles yes
[06:02] <netstar> narles, wait
[06:02] <netstar> apt-get install gtk2-engines-smooth
[06:03] <student> soundray:  it requires 400MB, but I see my tmpfs does not have that much available.  Is there a way to increase the size of the tmpfs during installation?  Or is there a way to workaround this issue?  Thanks.
[06:03] <narles> netstar, aight thanks
[06:03] <soundray> student, not sure - haven't heard of such a problem before.
[06:03] <soundray> student, how much RAM do you have?
[06:04] <BxL> where is the official ubuntu starter guide?
[06:04] <student> you are aware of the "copying remaining files to hard disk" portion of the ubuntu install?
[06:04] <Stork> quake4
[06:04] <soundray> student, yes.
[06:04] <Guardian> i'm trying to install java. the wiki says "install the java-package package with Synaptic, Miscellaneous - Text Based (multiverse) > java-package"  but i don't have multiverse, what should i do?
[06:04] <netstar> Stork,  on linux?
[06:04] <narles> netstar, it says gtk2-engines-smooth is up to date.. but i still get that error when i open up a jar file
[06:04] <student> soundray: well, it requires 400MB, but I do a df command and see that I have only 70MB allocated on tmpfs.
[06:04] <kitty_> Can Somebody help
[06:04] <student> soundray:  memtotal = 192016 kB
[06:05] <netstar> narles not sure then sorry
[06:05] <_jason> kitty_, we can try if you aska  quesiton
[06:05] <Stork> netstar, yeah, it's supported
[06:05] <narles> netstar, ok thanks
[06:05] <netstar> Stork, what spec do you have to be able to play it so nicely?
[06:05] <soundray> student, I don't think this is a tmpfs issue.
[06:05] <kitty_> I need to get MP3s Running on my UBUNTU but i just cant seem to get it workin. ive done everything im supposd to but it just wont work...
[06:05] <psusi> what the hell needs 400 MB in /tmp?
[06:06] <Stork> i've got an amd x2 4200+, 1gig 400mhz ram, and a nvidia 6600GT with 256mb
[06:06] <_jason> ubotu, tell kitty_ about mp3
[06:06] <student> soundray:  well where else would the installation copy the packages to?
[06:06] <narles> anyone know how to fix this problem when i open up a . jar file...? /usr/share/themes/ish-Smooth/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:103: Engine "smooth" is unsupported, ignoring
[06:06] <soundray> student, to your root partition.
[06:06] <netstar> That's my ideal machine
[06:06] <tokyoahead> guys I want to install skype. They list a .deb-package for ubuntu. I downloaded and its associated with archive manager which does not open it (Arhcive type not supported) so how can I sintall it?
[06:06] <_jason> kitty_, elaborate on "done everything im supposed to"
[06:06] <netstar> I'm stuck with a VERY dodgy laptop and an imac
[06:06] <student> soundray: during installation the root partition has not been created as far as I can tell
[06:07] <Stork> hehehe
[06:07] <netstar> back tommorow, night all
[06:07] <psusi> student: the installation creates it obviously, or you wouldn't have a place to install to now would you?
[06:07] <_xet> Why isnt there any direcotry named /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/
[06:07] <_xet> ?
[06:07] <soundray> student, it must have, it wouldn't be copying packages otherwise. Sorry student, have to go. I'll check if you're still around in half an hour.
[06:08] <student> soundray: psusi:  During the "Copy remaining packages to hard disk" stage, I receive an error:  "archive-copier: error: `cp -a "/cdrom/pool/main/x/xscreensaver/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb" "/target/var/cache/archive-copier/desktop/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb"` failed with code 1".
[06:08] <tokyoahead> how do I install a .deb-package in ubuntu?
[06:08] <_xet> dpkg -i
[06:08] <tokyoahead> or do I need a rpm?
[06:08] <psusi> student: how large did you have the setup program make your root partition?
[06:09] <student> psusi:  I chose the default, so I assume the maximum space
[06:09] <psusi> student: what does df show?
[06:09] <student>  During the "Copy remaining packages to hard disk" stage, I receive an error:  "archive-copier: error: `cp -a "/cdrom/pool/main/x/xscreensaver/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb" "/target/var/cache/archive-copier/desktop/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb"` failed with code 1".
[06:09] <student> oops sorry
[06:09] <student> /dev/hda1             12808136   1773288  10384220
[06:09] <student> it's a 12GB hard drive
[06:09] <student> should be plenty of space
[06:09] <tokyoahead> thanks _x
[06:10] <psusi> student: what are the last two columns on that line?  you cut them off
[06:11] <student> psusi:  well I have to manually copy this since I am using another computer
[06:11] <psusi> student: what's the % used space on the one mounted in /target?
[06:11] <student> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 5905972<PHONE_NUMBER>916 16% /target
[06:12] <psusi> student: also do a df -T and make sure the filesystem type is ext3
[06:12] <student> df: invalid option -- T
[06:13] <psusi> hrm... that's odd
[06:13] <student> could it be that my CD is defective on this one spot
[06:13] <psusi> did you check it's md5 sum?
[06:13] <student> how do I do that
[06:14] <psusi> which block device is it on?  /dev/hdc?
[06:14] <psusi> then do md5sum /dev/hdc
[06:14] <cleo> student: df -T not df --T
[06:15] <psusi> and make sure the value matches what it should be according to the web site you downloaded the image from
[06:15] <student> cleo: yes I wrote the command that way.  the error line added the extra - (I don't know why)
[06:15] <tokyoahead> how can I set my clock in ubuntu to 24hrs- format?
[06:16] <narles> anyone with ourtunes... from experience.. what controls theme is supported the most with itunes?
[06:18] <Dreamglider> i just opend synaptic, every single package there is marked as installed! i didnt install all of them, what could cause this ?
[06:19] <psusi> Dreamglider: you are looking at the list of installed packages, so all of the packages in that list are obviouly installed
[06:20] <max> hi
[06:20] <Dreamglider> no i'm lookina at the "all" list
[06:20] <psusi> well that's just weird
[06:20] <max> how can i delet the whole kde-desktop
[06:20] <max> ?
[06:21] <Dreamglider> no problem, i reloaded the list, it looks better now
[06:21] <_jason> max, what did you install it with?
[06:22] <Dreamglider> max i belive you can do it in synaptic package manager
[06:22] <deFrysk> sudp apt-get remove kdebase
[06:22] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get remove kdebase
[06:22] <tokyoahead> how can I install a "dynamic binary" .tar.bz2 ?
[06:22] <max> synaptic
[06:23] <_jason> max, then you can do 'sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt'.  I've done that personally.  deFrysk's method will probably work too
[06:23] <tokyoahead> ok I try
[06:23] <kitty_> My Repositorys wil not update and i keep getting a Warning msg when i try to...can someone tell me whats wrong or wht to do
[06:23] <deFrysk> _jason, your way is fine too
[06:23] <deFrysk> more drastic even
[06:23] <max> thx
[06:23] <max> ;)
[06:24] <Bader> hi, I got a huge issue with dapper but I'm on a screen console and don't know understand how to copy the output of the dmesg message then paste it..
[06:24] <gnomefreak> kitty_, can you paste the output of sudo apt-get update in pastebin please
[06:24] <Guard] [an[VO] > .
[06:24] <kitty_> i dunno how
[06:25] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[06:25] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:25] <Bader> a shell client for pastebin woul be great in that moment :(
[06:25] <deFrysk> kitty_, be more specific (or use pastebin)
[06:25] <Bader> everytime I start X it crashes my computer, so I'm stuck with on the terminal
[06:25] <gnomefreak> kitty_, just copy and paste the output on that site of sudo apt-get update and put name in than hit send and give us the link to the page after you hit send
[06:26] <kitty_> ok
[06:27] <gnomefreak> Bader, did you try gksudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to make sure it sees your video card?
[06:27] <narles> can you add songs from your PC to your ipod using rhythmbox music player?
[06:27] <Seveas> !away
[06:27] <ubotu> hmm... away is http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html
[06:28] <Bader> gnomefreak: X start successfully, even GNOME start
[06:28] <kitty_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6898
[06:28] <Bader> gnomefreak: the problem is that then it become freezed
[06:29] <Bader> dmesg neither x.org logs told me what had happen :(
[06:29] <monyetz> ls
[06:29] <tech9iner> moin uMates.. ;] ..
[06:29] <gnomefreak> kitty_, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please
[06:30] <gnomefreak> Bader, did you look on bugzilla for that issue in dapper?
[06:30] <tech9iner> so installed off of u 5.0.4 cd's last eve.. then aptgot kde environs and logged into kde side of the u realms ;] ]
[06:30] <Bader> gnomefreak: I'm on a screen. I've now web browser except links/w3m...
[06:30] <Bader> screen (= GNU Screen)
[06:30] <Syrus> d
[06:31] <tech9iner> but alas.. upon bootup/login im being told 'sound server informational message: error while initializing the sound driver: device: default cant be opened for playback (on such device) the sound server will continue suing the null output device.. '''
[06:31] <kitty_> when itry to it ses permision denied
[06:31] <gnomefreak> Bader, run w3m bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[06:31] <narles> can you add songs from your PC to your ipod using rhythmbox music player?
[06:31] <gnomefreak> kitty_, the command it sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:32] <tech9iner> others in kubuntu have helped me via lsmod confirm my yamaha YMF-744B is the mobo sound..
[06:32] <tech9iner> any clues muchly appreciated matesNlassies..
[06:33] <kitty_> should i paste the whole file in to pastebin
[06:33] <tech9iner> misfit_toy: are ye dead n gone these days mang?... ;] ] ] ]
[06:33] <Bader> gnomefreak: bugzilla.ubuntu.org doesn't exists...
[06:34] <gnomefreak> kitty_, yes
[06:34] <Bader> doh! .com !
[06:34] <kitty_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6900
[06:34] <Bader> sorry!
[06:34] <drayen> Im trying to  get SSH tunneling working, i need to tunnel an mySQL connection.
[06:34] <deFrysk> doh!.com ?
[06:35] <s_spiff> hey pppl
[06:35] <gnomefreak> kitty_, why do you have more than one sources list
[06:35] <tech9iner> moin s_spiff
[06:35] <kitty_> i have no idia
[06:35] <drayen> i think i've connected okay, as the network tools active services shows the port being open, but the ip source is set to ::1 - not <IP_ADDRESS> and it seems to be useing tcp6 - help
[06:35] <s_spiff> hey tech9iner
[06:36] <narles> does anyone know how to safely remove an IPOD using ubuntu??
[06:36] <gnomefreak> ok kitty hold on let me see if i can fix this and you can get rid of everything in sources list and paste the one that i give you
[06:36] <s_spiff>  damn, why does this list of names come when i press tab, instead of doin the auto complete crap!
[06:36] <s_spiff> small mj joints?
[06:37] <Bader> gnomefreak: it's a pain to surf with w3m or links on bugzilla. Could you give me directly the bug number you're thinking about ?
[06:37] <Novata> hello
[06:37] <Bader> +please :D
[06:37] <gnomefreak> Bader, give me a few
[06:37] <tokyoahead> can I install RPMs on ubuntu?
[06:38] <s_spiff> hey what client to use to download torrents man?
[06:38] <fusionfox> anyone know  a good web to download GNOME themes??
[06:38] <Seveas> !+themes
[06:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, themes is try installing gnome-art (sudo apt-get install gnome-art) and running it from System -> Preferences -> Art Manager (On Breezy). It downloads and installs themes from http://art.gnome.org/ Some other sites with various themes include: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com See also !KDEThemes
[06:38] <Novata> Can anyone help me with a little problem that i have???
[06:38] <Elsan_> You can use the "alien" package to convert to .deb, tokyoahead.
[06:38] <s_spiff>  i tried bit-torrent ..its crappy ..in comparison to windows bit-torrent client
[06:38] <Elsan_> tokyoahead: But it's not guaranteed to work
[06:38] <tokyoahead> Elsan_ thanks
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> gee the original bit-torrent clients i though were about identical under windows and linux. :P
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> s_spiff,  theres dozens of bittorrent clients out however.
[06:39] <Bader> hmm, i'm currently dist-upgrading. udev upgrade is stalled since 5 minutes...
[06:39] <Elsan_> tokyoahead: "alien package.rpm"
[06:39] <Elsan_> is the command
[06:39] <s_spiff> however?
[06:39] <Bader> Is there any bug report about udev upgrading ?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> so go find one
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:39] <Novata> Can anyone help me with a little problem that i have???
[06:39] <tech9iner> s_spiff: ive found azureus to be my fav here chum
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Novata,  state the problem and find out.
[06:39] <Catch22-srv> whats the default root pass in ubuntu ?
[06:39] <CarinArr> novata, noone will commit themselves before you ask;)
[06:39] <Catch22-srv> or cant i log in as root in the terminal ?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> Catch22-srv,  there is none. its  set to use 'sudo'
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[06:40] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:40] <s_spiff> achha ok..will try that out
[06:40] <Bader> dpkg fail to install the new version of /etc/init.d/udev, any ideas for this issue ?
[06:40] <s_spiff> will i get azureus on synaptic?
[06:40] <Novata> i dnt understand very well ur english sorry
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> !azureus
[06:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:40] <Bader> if I kill dpkg now, would it broke udev ?
[06:41] <gnomefreak> kitty_, here is a full list of sources please get rid of your and add these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6902
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Novata,  dont ask to ask.. just state the problem.
[06:41] <tech9iner> no clue here s_spiff .. sorry guv.. been on u/kubuntu less than 24 hours.. not sure what synaptic sources have available thusfar mate
[06:41] <s_spiff> hehe ok.. np
[06:41] <tech9iner> nice bot mates.. kudos to it's keepers ;] ]
[06:41] <s_spiff> will check it out
[06:41] <kitty_> ok..thanks
[06:41] <CarinArr> !es
[06:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:41] <Bader> !i'm somehow in panic :[ (maybe ubotu got help for this)
[06:41] <ubotu> Bader: Are you smoking crack?
[06:41] <CarinArr> heh
[06:42] <Bader> huhu
[06:42] <gnomefreak> kitty_, alot of your sources do not exsist any more and not good to use debian repos in ubuntu
[06:42] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[06:42] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[06:42] <gnomefreak> theres a good place to start
[06:42] <Bader> ubotu: I rather prefer to smoke crack than having my OS broken the day I've a very important work to do... (ok i'm speaking to a bot, it's suspicous...)
[06:42] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Bader
[06:43] <gnomefreak> Bader, you dont want broken os use breezy
[06:43] <cj> drayen: any luck tunneling that mysql connection?
[06:43] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: hello
[06:43] <kitty_> do i just delete the whole source list and paste the new one into it
[06:43] <gnomefreak> hi C-O-L-T
[06:43] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: could you install the program
[06:43] <tech9iner> moin C-O-L-T
[06:43] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, yes but i didnt do the plug-ins
[06:43] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: but it worked for you?
[06:43] <gnomefreak> the install procedure is at www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc
[06:44] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: you could see the globe and so on?
[06:44] <student> md5sum /dev/hdc
[06:44] <student> md5sum: /dev/hdc: Input/output error
[06:44] <gnomefreak> go to the page called worldwind
[06:44] <Bader> gnomefreak: yes, I'll do in the future, but actually I thought that broken just mean that some features are broken (like the encoding, btw I don't find how to change my default encoding from utf-8 to iso-8859-15 because my main term don't support it (dpkg-reconfigure locales don't give me the hand)) but not the whole system.
[06:45] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, i will remind you its in jave and will be very very slow also the package that it comes as has very minimal add-ons to it
[06:45] <gnomefreak> Bader, dapper is broken
[06:45] <gnomefreak> not packages the whole dapper os
[06:45] <chris_> total noob question alert -  how do i delete files in file browser, specifically a file in /var/www/?
[06:45] <Bader> I understand know why it's called dapper _drake_ (it reminds me an old distribution I got used with...)
[06:46] <mwe> Bader: what do you expect 1/3 of the way to the final release?
[06:46] <gnomefreak> Bader, it wont be realed for another 3-4 months
[06:46] <gnomefreak> released
[06:46] <Bader> mwe: gnomefreak, I was hypnotised by the hype.
[06:46] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: anyway i will try it
[06:46] <gnomefreak> ok C-O-L-T good luck
[06:46] <Bader> anyhow, could I stop dpkg-reconfigure without big risk ?
[06:47] <HappyFool> chris_: you can't delete stuff in /var/www using nautilus (not usually, at least)
[06:47] <Bader> during the install of udev which is stalled...
[06:47] <chris_> ah. so how would I do it via a terminal?
[06:47] <gnomefreak> Bader, seeing as dapper is a big risk i dont see a difference
[06:47] <j3di> ok, where is the ntp.conf file?
[06:47] <Bader> gnomefreak: wise :)
[06:47] <HappyFool> chris_: either use the 'Run as' dialog box to run nautilus as root, or use the command line
[06:47] <j3di> i looked in etc and couldnt find it
[06:47] <kemik> chris_:  if you really want to do it via nautilus, start nautilus as sudo (sudo nautilus)
[06:47] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I hope it will wokr
[06:47] <kemik> s/as/with
[06:47] <HappyFool> j3di: /etc/ntp.conf ?
[06:47] <j3di> nope
[06:48] <gnomefreak> my instructions work fine i installed it as i wrote it
[06:48] <HappyFool> j3di: hmm, i have one, but it's empty
[06:48] <HappyFool> j3di: you want to change th default time server?
[06:48] <j3di> yep
[06:48] <kitty_> when i use apt-get update.... iit works but i get this msg.. "Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:48] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: ok I will try
[06:48] <kitty_> " is this ok
[06:48] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I am so excited :)
[06:48] <HappyFool> look in /etc/default/ntpdate
[06:48] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I hope it is something like google earth
[06:49] <mwe> j3di: /etc/default/ntpdate
[06:49] <chris_> thanks very much.  I did sudo nautilus and deleted that way. Im guessing thats not the neatest way, but it worked. so thanks
[06:49] <tech9iner> so mates.. any hints on my failing integrated sound please..
[06:49] <mwe> !sound
[06:49] <tech9iner> others in kubuntu have helped me via lsmod confirm my yamaha YMF-744B is the mobo sound..
[06:49] <ubotu> I guess sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:49] <Dreamglider> kde has posibility to have diffrent wallpapers'on each workspace, can this be done with gnome ?
[06:49] <j3di> tight thanx
[06:49] <tech9iner> but alas.. upon bootup/login im being told 'sound server informational message: error while initializing the sound driver: device: default cant be opened for playback (on such device) the sound server will continue suing the null output device.. '''
[06:49] <bipolar> has anyone here used hot swap sata in linux?
[06:50] <tech9iner> tanx mwe ;] ]
[06:50] <kitty_> Does anyone here know if i can change from gnome to KDE cos its sound alot better
[06:50] <_jason> kitty_, you can install kubuntu-desktop
[06:50] <bipolar> kitty_: join #kubuntu for more info
[06:50] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, i never used google earth it was way too heavy
[06:50] <Dreamglider> kitty_, use synaptic to install it
[06:50] <dirkvdbroek> hey there what was again that command that configured xorg?
[06:51] <_jason> kitty_, out of curiousity, what sounds so much better?
[06:51] <j3di> ok i just installed openssh, and i cant seem to ssh in
[06:51] <Bader> dirkvdbroek: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:51] <_jason> j3di, is port 22 being blocked by anything?
[06:51] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I like it a lot, I would like some non-online thing but it does not exists as I have seen. For Linux does not
[06:51] <Bader> _jason: KDE begins with a K. This letter sounds so good!
[06:51] <gnomefreak> Bader, close but i think perfered is gksudo
[06:51] <j3di> nope
[06:51] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: anyway can I get a cedega in deb format?
[06:51] <cello_rasp> oh dear. i seem to be getting a bunch of problems with synaptic: http://pastebin.com/499525
[06:52] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, dont know i dont use it
[06:52] <gnomefreak> !cedega
[06:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[06:52] <j3di> it tries to connect but says it was "unable to connect using the preconfigured authentication methods"
[06:52] <cello_rasp> and i cant find many packages with spm either..
[06:52] <Bader> gnomefreak: why a graphical stuff when the configuration tool is only text ? Doesn't this confuse the user ?
[06:52] <j3di> sorry "configured"
[06:52] <_jason> cello_rasp, sudo apt-get update, what's that do?
[06:52] <gnomefreak> Bader, the xsever-xorg is not text its graphical kind of
[06:53] <gnomefreak> !gksudo
[06:53] <ubotu> somebody said gksudo was Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root priveleges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[06:53] <Bader> dpkg-reconfigure isn't gtk, no ?
[06:53] <cello_rasp> _jason: it updates but let's see if spm is still affected
[06:53] <Bader> neither X, isn't it ?
[06:53] <Catch22-srv> when i do sudo ifconfig eth1 up it says timer expired?
[06:53] <gnomefreak> Bader, it is but than again its not its not a plain text config
[06:54] <bipolar> Bader: no. it's not running in X, it's a console app
[06:54] <cello_rasp> thanks _jason that fixed it
[06:55] <lowman62> g'aftnoon room :)
[06:56] <Bader> gnomefreak: well, It isn't graphical too, it's an ncurse app, I don't understand why you'll use gksudo which use X when X is unconfigured...
[06:56] <_jason> when I do gksudo nautilus, the icon set seems to be missing.  Everything has a blank page or a red x as an icon.  Anyone know what's going on and what I can do to fix it?
[06:56] <skeff> hi! How can I install the _latest_ nvidia driver?  There is only v7667 in the Ubuntu repository, though the latest is v8178
[06:56] <Bader> _jason: If you find tell me :)
[06:56] <trappist> skeff: get it from nvidia.com
[06:57] <s_spiff> hey how to install a .tar.gz?
[06:57] <s_spiff> i downloaded abc client for linux
[06:57] <trappist> s_spiff: first, you extract its contents
[06:57] <s_spiff> its in a .tar.gz file
[06:57] <s_spiff> ok..then?
[06:57] <trappist> tar zxf file.tar.gz
[06:57] <trappist> then it depends on what's in it
[06:58] <student> are there any net-nanny type programs available for ubuntu?  also, are there any lock-down type applications so I can control a public station?  Thanks.
[06:58] <s_spiff> trappist, http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/download.php
[06:58] <trappist> student: dansguardian
[06:58] <s_spiff> can u check it out?
[06:58] <s_spiff> and walk me through it?
[06:58] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: You are my hero, it works. You saved me :))) Thanks you again, it works, slower than google earth but it has a lot more details in some point of view
[06:58] <trappist> s_spiff: no.  look for a README or INSTALL file in the extracted tarball.
[06:58] <s_spiff> ok
[06:58] <alekandr> C-O-L-T: google earth?
[06:59] <alekandr> what program you using
[06:59] <NilssonHarHund> I've got a Dell latitude X1 and was wondering if someone has yet managed to get the sd-reader to work?
[06:59] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, im glad your happy if you add on the add-ons it will do more
[06:59] <gnomefreak> alekandr, ww2d
[06:59] <alekandr> Can I spy on people?
[06:59] <trappist> student: that is, dansguardian for the first question and bastille-linux for the second
[06:59] <NilssonHarHund> found a patch, but I'm unsure about how to istall it, and wheter or not it works on my machine
[06:59] <alekandr> oh noes
[07:00] <Dreamglider> is there anything like Cedega that is free of charge ?
[07:00] <alekandr> trappist: i wouldnt suggest bastille, its a bit combersome, and more int-adv and could fuck things up
[07:00] <alekandr> Dreamglider: wine is free
[07:00] <lowman62> gnomefreak: ww2d is like google earth?
[07:00] <trappist> Dreamglider: there's the cvs version of cedega
[07:00] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> !java-debs
[07:00] <ubotu> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu: Not a clue
[07:00] <Bader> fine, I did a dist-upgrade, It works n
[07:00] <gnomefreak> lowman62, yes similar
[07:00] <Bader> thanks gnomefreak
[07:00] <C-O-L-T> alekandr: http://www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/worldwind.htm
[07:00] <gnomefreak> Bader, yw
[07:01] <Bader> and about encoding, why dpkg-reconfigure locales don't let me change the encoding ?
[07:01] <Bader> and how to change the default encoding ?
[07:01] <lowman62> is that available through sudo apt-get install ?
[07:01] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: thanks again and who asks about google earth just say to him or her your page, because you have done a good step by step easy guide
[07:01] <s_spiff> trappist, it has quite a few .py files
[07:01] <gnomefreak> lowman62, no
[07:01] <student> trappist: neither one of those packages show up in my synaptic.  Do I need to enable a certain repository?
[07:01] <s_spiff> one names setupabc.py
[07:01] <trappist> s_spiff: try sudo python setupabc.py
[07:01] <s_spiff> but when i try it ./setupabc , it doesn't work
[07:02] <lowman62> gnomefreak: may I know where you can get it?
[07:02] <gnomefreak> lowman62, hold on let me get the dirct page to my site the site for it is on there
[07:02] <lowman62> ok thanks :)
[07:03] <s_spiff> trappist, it gave me an error..  ImportError: No module named py2exe
[07:03] <gnomefreak> lowman62, http://www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/worldwind.htm
[07:03] <trappist> s_spiff: can't help ya there.  you'll need to refer to the documentation.
[07:03] <zAo^> can some1 plz sent me his metacity-theme-1.xml ?
[07:04] <lowman62> gnomefreak: thank you :)
[07:04] <gnomefreak> i will be putting the site in html on the webpages page
[07:04] <gnomefreak> yw
[07:04] <trappist> zAo^: I have a dozen of those
[07:04] <zAo^> :)
[07:04] <zAo^> where I start gnome-theme-manager I get:
[07:04] <trappist> zAo^: one for each theme
[07:04] <s_spiff> trappist, it says : in bash shell set "export BROWSER=$BROWSER:Konqueror"  if i use Konqueror
[07:04] <s_spiff> what will that do?
[07:04] <zAo^> indowmanager waarschuwing:Kan thema niet uit bestand /usr/share/themes/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml lezen: Openen van bestand '/usr/share/themes/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml' mislukt: No such file or directory
[07:05] <mcphail> A question for the panel: fetchmail or getmail? Which do you trust on your box?
[07:05] <trappist> s_spiff: that will add konqueror to your $BROWSER environment variable
[07:05] <trappist> fetchmail if I were to run either
[07:05] <zAo^> trappist, you know what is wrong? need the default metacity one :)
[07:05] <bluefoxicy> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326496  Here's something ridiculous for you
[07:06] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I will always hava to open the program with java -jar?
[07:06] <bluefoxicy> Can you believe these tards actually put the userlist in as a pop-up instead of a list?
[07:06] <trappist> zAo^: I have no idea which is the default
[07:06] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I can not get an icon
[07:06] <bluefoxicy> (and the new ubuntu desktop in dapper installs xchat-gnome)
[07:06] <trappist> C-O-L-T: you could write a small wrapper script
[07:06] <_jason> Bader, ok I figured it out :) (the icon thing).  You have to create a symlink to your user's ~/.icon in /root/
[07:06] <s_spiff> and what does that do?
[07:06] <zAo^> trappist, plz send me /usr/share/themes/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml
[07:06] <mcphail> I hadn't heard of getmail until today.   Why simply can not be a deb file like other normal application
[07:07] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, what is the full command?
[07:07] <gnomefreak> to run it
[07:07] <trappist> zAo^: closest match I have is usr/share/themes/Human/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml
[07:08] <trappist> zAo^: provided by ubuntu-artwork
[07:08] <Bader> _jason: you mean .icons, thanks :)
[07:08] <zAo^> trappist, hmm.. thnx. Try something here first :)
[07:08] <trappist> zAo^: maybe apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-artwork
[07:08] <_jason> Bader, yep
[07:08] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, i will attempt to write a fast lil script to cd to the places and this way you just run the script name
[07:09] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: ok\
[07:09] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: thanks again
[07:09] <zAo^> trappist, I'll try that, thnx
[07:09] <bipolar> is there a way to stop ssh from encrypting the ip/hostname in the known_hosts file?
[07:09] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, it will more than likey be tomorrow
[07:09] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: no problem
[07:09] <trappist> bipolar: it's not encrypted
[07:09] <Teskupo> i got a problem with the azureus and the path :(
[07:09] <trappist> bipolar: those are host keys
[07:10] <jawshoewah> what is the command to see what video card is?
[07:10] <Teskupo> have any the azureus installed?
[07:10] <jawshoewah> what my video card is?
[07:10] <bipolar> trappist: no, I mean the IP/Hostname. it's all encripted. It started doing this in dapper.
[07:10] <Dreamglider> Teskupo, i do
[07:10] <soundray> bipolar, I know what you mean, I see this in breezy, too.
[07:10] <cello_rasp> Teskupo: all the cool kis use mutorrent on wine
[07:10] <trappist> bipolar: check /etc/ssh/ssh_config or ~/.ssh/config and look for HashKnownHosts
[07:11] <jawshoewah> is it xorg.conf?
[07:11] <Teskupo> and how you do it Dreamglider ?
[07:11] <soundray> ahuman01, cool, trappist, thanks.
[07:11] <bipolar> trappist: thanks. I'll look into it
[07:11] <eccf> what package is the cmd 'import' packaged in?
[07:11] <Dreamglider> Teskupo, i installed it using automatrix
[07:12] <trappist> eccf: imagemagick I believe
[07:12] <Teskupo> And what is taht Dreamglider , i new in ubuntu :$ sorry
[07:12] <jawshoewah> does anyone know the terminal command to have your video hardware listed?
[07:12] <eccf> trappist, ok. let me try.
[07:12] <trappist> eccf: confirmed.  imagemagick.
[07:12] <Gn0m3> spanish?
[07:12] <trappist> jawshoewah: lspci
[07:13] <jawshoewah> tyty
[07:13] <trappist> Gn0m3: #ubuntu-es
[07:13] <Gn0m3> thnx
[07:13] <eccf> trappist, cool. installing now.
[07:13] <tech9iner> arg.. ive installed several distros on these old Pll 366 toughbooks.. ubuntu 1st one that doesnt like my yamaha YMF-744B mobo sound arch.. ;[[.. 'aplay -l' gets me 'aplay: device_list:200: no soundcards found...' ;[...
[07:13] <eccf> hmm. is there a way to get rid of the ubuntu logo at gnome taskbar? i like footprint better :)
[07:13] <tech9iner> yet the yamaha modules are loaded.. scratching bloody spot on 4head here..
[07:13] <trappist> tech9iner: ymfpci?
[07:14] <trappist> tech9iner: snd-ymfpci?
[07:15] <wicht1> wi mach ich verknpfungen auf den desktop?
[07:15] <tech9iner> aye trappist .. thanks mate.. may i pm ya the 7-10 lines of lsmod snd refs mate?
[07:15] <wicht1> z.B von dem firefox
[07:15] <tech9iner> or pastebin.. ur call trappist
[07:16] <eccf> trappist, you have any idea how to get rid of ubuntu logo at gnome taskbar? like change it to the original footprint logo instead, or did you use other WM?
[07:16] <tech9iner> !themes
[07:16] <trappist> tech9iner: pastebin is preferred
[07:17] <trappist> eccf: I don't use gnome
[07:17] <tech9iner> aye trappist .. brb w url mate thanks
[07:17] <eccf> trappist, ok.
[07:18] <trappist> eccf: when you have a new question, you'll generally have better luck addressing the channel.  if someone who knows sees a line starting with 'trappist' he may not read the rest.
[07:18] <tech9iner> trappist: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=499577.. ur time appreciated muchly guv ;] ]
[07:19] <topyli> eccf: i don't know how to change it really, but it's not any business of the window manager (in gnome that is)
[07:19] <tech9iner> my bad trappist http://pastebin.com/499577 even ;[
[07:19] <trappist> tech9iner: much better, thanks :)
[07:19] <tech9iner> grabbed wrong url mate
[07:20] <eccf> ok. it seems that i might go for other alternative beside gnome. this laptop has a low 900mhz CPU and 256MB of RAM. i might try openbox or xfce.
[07:20] <tech9iner> twould seem here alls in place for sound.. yet u just doesnt like current configs?
[07:20] <tech9iner> xfce is nice where lean is needed eccf
[07:21] <eccf> but honestly, gnome is very user-friendly by the default installation.
[07:21] <trappist> tech9iner: looks pretty good to me.  I've never seen your soundcard, I was just making sure you knew which modules to look for.  do other sound apps work?
[07:21] <eccf> tech9iner, yeah. i might try that. i saw an article on ubuntuforums that teach step by step to change over to xfce :)
[07:22] <osfameron> any hints on setting up a umts card?
[07:22] <osfameron> running the provider script, it stops on the "ATZ" command
[07:22] <osfameron> also, I don't appear to have a ppp0 device
[07:22] <osfameron> I'm lost in treacle and without much clue - pointers?
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> dude
[07:23] <Teskupo> Dreamglider, are you still there?
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> I just installed ubuntu and upgraded to dapper in qemu
[07:23] <tech9iner> trappist: well sys notifications like beeps here on irc messgs inbound.. and error beeps n such.. havent tried any mp3's n such or music playback yet..
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> logged into gnome after a reboot
[07:23] <jawshoewah> lspci lists SiS as video controller but not specs it's an on-board video unit and im trying to figure out it's specs
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> it uses 90 megs of ram, including gnome-terminal
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> to get to the desktop
[07:23] <juan32> for a windows partition i need fat32 no?
[07:23] <Teskupo> ntfs too no?
[07:24] <tech9iner> kind of assumed if im getting upon bootup/login 'sound server informational message: error while initializing the sound driver: device: default cant be opened for playback (on such device) the sound server will continue suing the null output device.. '''.. trying mp3's was wasted effort no?
[07:24] <juan32> teskupo whats is better?
[07:24] <mwe> tech9iner: yeah
[07:24] <mwe> tech9iner: fix the error first
[07:24] <mwe> !tell tech9iner about sound
[07:24] <juan32> Teskupo, whats is better ntfs or fat32?
[07:24] <jawshoewah> whats strange about having a dual boot is linux "sees" the winblows partition but windoze wont recognize unix
[07:24] <mwe> tech9iner: read /msg from ubotu
[07:24] <student> has anyone used dansguardian before?
[07:24] <tech9iner> btw trappist .. #kubuntu guru did mention some bit bout proper user perms assignments for audio had been a problem..
[07:25] <osfameron> !umts
[07:25] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, osfameron
[07:25] <jawshoewah> any terminal commands more informative than lspci?
[07:25] <_jason> jawshoewah, lshw
[07:25] <gnomefreak> lspci is the command
[07:25] <tech9iner> again.. thanks chap mwe ;] ]
[07:25] <Teskupo> juan32 do you know spanish?
[07:25] <juan32> si
[07:25] <Teskupo> vale toma este link jje
[07:25] <trappist> tech9iner: check out the permissions on /dev/dsp
[07:25] <Teskupo> http://www.configurarequipos.com/tema774-7-0.html
[07:25] <tech9iner> k trappist .. thanks..
[07:25] <_jason> jawshoewah, sudo lshw -C display, if you want display info
[07:26] <Teskupo> que yo me explico muy mal juan32 , si no te keda claro dime
[07:26] <slew> i have a windows partition on this drive, and it shows up in ubuntu as an icon on the desktop. im not able to see the contents of this partition, how do i remove the icon?
[07:26] <juan32> ok vale Teskupo
[07:26] <trappist> slew: you'd rather remove the icon, or fix permissions on the drive?
[07:26] <Dreamglider> Teskupo, i'm still here
[07:27] <graft> slew, is the drive automounted?
[07:27] <Teskupo> can you read the private Dreamglider ?
[07:27] <Teskupo> espero que te sirva juan32
[07:27] <slew> trappist, id rather just not have the icon at all
[07:27] <Dreamglider> Teskupo, i msg'd you but no reply
[07:27] <trappist> juan32, Teskupo: #ubuntu-es por favor
[07:28] <eccf> when i tried to sudo apt-get install ssh, it said please insert disc. isn't it force to d/l the latest version w/ patches or whatever from the repo?
[07:28] <slew> its in /etc/fstab as default, i changed it to noauto and its still there
[07:28] <Teskupo> i reply you....
[07:28] <mcphail> eccf: remove the disk from your sources list
[07:28] <trappist> eccf: get rid of the cdrom line in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:29] <graft> slew, is it still mounted?
[07:29] <eccf> ah. that explains. thanks guy :)
[07:29] <Teskupo> i reply you....again... i have to do something to could reply?? :S Dreamglider
[07:29] <slew> graft, i suppose. i look at it and it tells me i have no permissions to view it
[07:29] <tech9iner> trappist: okaaaaay.... weird.. there IS NO '/dev/dsp' according to konqeuror.. hmmmmmm??
[07:29] <gorski> hello, i have problems playbacking recorded sound!
[07:29] <_jason> Teskupo, you have to be registered to send /msg
[07:29] <tech9iner> could be relative eh mates?.. rofl
[07:29] <Dreamglider> anyone, why cant i see Teskupo reply in private ?
[07:29] <graft> slew, does it show up when you type "mount"? i mean if you haven't rebooted since you changed 'default' to 'noauto', it'll probably still be mounted
[07:30] <_jason> Dreamglider, he's not registered
[07:30] <Teskupo> o i see _jason... and where i can do that??
[07:30] <trappist> tech9iner: well that explains a little.  it should appear when the correct driver gets loaded.  do you see your sound card in the output of lspci?
[07:30] <_jason> ubotu, tell Teskupo about register
[07:30] <Dreamglider> allroght
[07:30] <gorski> hello, i have problems playbacking recorded sound!
[07:30] <slew> graft, naw i changed fstab last night and shut it down. its still here this morning
[07:30] <tech9iner> now only way i could be missing /dev/dsp is via the aptget upgrade of unbuntu 5.0.5 to kubuntu maybe?..
[07:30] <tech9iner> arg.. 5.0.5/.4 dammit
[07:30] <graft> well, what does "mount" say?
[07:31] <Dreamglider> Teskupo, you need to register your nick in order to talk in private mate
[07:31] <trappist> tech9iner: no, /dev/dsp is a device.  not provided by a package.
[07:31] <Teskupo> o i see
[07:31] <Teskupo> i will do it
[07:31] <slew> graft, dosent mention the ntfs drive
[07:31] <graft> hrmrmrmrm
[07:31] <graft> you're running gnome?
[07:31] <slew> yeah
[07:31] <computerdude> When I use apt-get where does it save the files too?
[07:31] <graft> maybe it shows icons for all mount points by default... dunno much about gnome, unfortunately
[07:32] <slew> i think i'll just take the line out of fstab.
[07:32] <graft> yeah just comment it out
[07:32] <jawshoewah> im trying to figure out if my on board video is hardware accelerated and what it's memory rating is
[07:32] <jawshoewah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6906
[07:32] <slew> k that seemed to do it. =]
[07:32] <jawshoewah> can someone help  me decipher?
[07:33] <Catch22-srv> is there a c compiler in ubuntu which i can easily install ?
[07:33] <gorski> hello, i have problems playbacking recorded sound!
[07:34] <Seveas> !tell Catch22-srv about compiling
[07:34] <BxL> where is the official ubuntu starter guide?
[07:34] <_jason> BxL, help.ubuntu.com
[07:35] <BxL> thanks _jason
[07:35] <omer> What is the gcc version the kernel conpile with? (5.10)
[07:35] <tech9iner> so trappist .. how doth one check perms on /dev/dsp if not seen by konqueror please?
[07:35] <Seveas> omer, 3.4
[07:35] <omer> thank
[07:35] <trappist> tech9iner: if it doesn't exist it has no perms.  step 1: make it exist.
[07:36] <jawshoewah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6906
[07:36] <jawshoewah> can someone help  me decipher?
[07:36] <jawshoewah> im trying to figure out if my on board video is hardware accelerated and what it's memory rating is
[07:36] <trappist> tech9iner: or if it's a potential konqueror issue, ls -l /dev/dsp on the command line
[07:36] <wolf> can ne bod tell what is DEBIAN
[07:36] <Seveas> !tell wolf about debian
[07:37] <juan23> !tell juan23 about debian
[07:38] <gnomefreak> its a 128mb video care jawshoewah
[07:38] <graft> jawshoewah: post lspci -v instead of lshw, please
[07:39] <gnomefreak> im not sure what maker it is though :(
[07:39] <gnomefreak> other than sis
[07:39] <gnomefreak> !sis
[07:39] <ubotu> gnomefreak: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[07:41] <soundray> Do you know of anyone who has deb-packaged Gnash?
[07:41] <kkathman> good day - just did an adept update, rebooted and have no connectivity to my network (system is up and running).. dhclient eth0 shows no discovery, no leases - sleeping
[07:41] <kkathman> could someone offer some ideas on how to possibly rectify this>
[07:42] <kkathman> btw pinging my gateway gives Network is unreachable
[07:42] <graft> kkathman: does eth0 get recognized by your kernel?
[07:42] <trappist> kkathman: if you ifconfig eth0 does it show an ip address?
[07:42] <jawshoewah> i ran glxinfo it gave me a warning 3d driver returned no fbconfigs
[07:42] <kkathman> graft I did a lspci and the ethernet does show
[07:42] <kkathman> graft:  is there something else you had in mind?
[07:43] <jawshoewah> is fbconfigs a module i need?