[01:05] <justCarakas> balloons: I just created a website for BE Mobile, who should I contact to update the link on the post with the winners of the ubuntu app showdown ?
[01:06] <balloons> justCarakas, anyone from my team. what's the proper link?
[01:06] <justCarakas> http://gigapps.be/
[01:19] <balloons> justCarakas, so the link should go as BE Mobile then under the description?
[01:25] <justCarakas> the link of my name (jelmer prins)
[01:25] <justCarakas> balloons: sorry for late reply
[01:25] <balloons> gotcha, I'll update
[01:26] <justCarakas> balloons: thank you :) I didn't expect to win :p
[01:26] <balloons> justCarakas, done ;-)
[01:26] <justCarakas> balloons: works perfectly :)
[01:41] <justCarakas> gnight
[06:32] <mihir> Good Morning :)
[06:34] <DanChapman> Good Morning
[06:53] <Aki-Thinkpad> good morning
[06:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> Ui development is fun, but crazy, because there is always more you can do :p
[06:55] <mihir> Aki-Thinkpad: indeed
[06:55] <Aki-Thinkpad> mihir, what app you working on?
[06:55] <mihir> Aki-Thinkpad: calendar,calculator
[06:56] <Aki-Thinkpad> mihir, ah nice. Ive seen the calender, but its been a year since I saw the calculator. Any screenshots?
[06:56] <Aki-Thinkpad> mihir, actually considering I am doing something similar to the calculator I am very interested in seeing how it is working atm
[06:57] <mihir> Aki-Thinkpad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QJPfGHv-BQ
[06:57] <mihir> Aki-Thinkpad: this is calendar video
[06:57] <Aki-Thinkpad> wow; it is georgeous
[06:59] <mihir> Aki-Thinkpad: :)
[07:41] <Aki-Thinkpad> Am I the only one who's unity starts becoming unstable the more I run my app from qtcreator
[07:41] <Aki-Thinkpad> ?
[07:54] <purencool> Hi all I am using ubntu 14.04. I have designed a layout in qt creator I want read a text file. I can open a dialogue and can select the file path but how do I open the file to read it?
[08:02] <Aki-Thinkpad> purencool, hey there
[08:03] <Aki-Thinkpad> what kind of app is this? Is this for the ubuntu-touch?
[08:03] <Aki-Thinkpad> or is this a desktop application using just qt5 libs?
[08:07] <purencool> Aki-Thinkpad, Hi. I am using "project ubuntu a simple C++ base QtQuick2 extenstion library  with tabbed ui written  in qml"
[08:07] <Aki-Thinkpad> purencool, oh okay, so this is a qml program?
[08:08] <Aki-Thinkpad> purencool, alright, well you already did the first step properly
[08:08] <Aki-Thinkpad> that was the correct project you wanted to use
[08:08] <Aki-Thinkpad> purencool, have you done any editting in mytype.cpp/.h?
[08:08] <purencool> Yes I am play around
[08:08] <purencool> no
[08:09] <Aki-Thinkpad> purencool, okay, so this is where you will need to program this.
[08:10] <Aki-Thinkpad> purencool, sorry, having a conversation.
[08:11] <purencool> cool play with the code I think I might be close
[08:11] <purencool> playing blah
[08:13] <purencool> got it
[08:13] <purencool> thanks for responding
[10:18] <popey> zbenjamin: trying that silo qtc package (having rebooted) and now it's mis-identifying devices.. bug 1314960
[10:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1314960 in qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu "qtc mis-identifies my device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314960
[11:18] <nik90> popey: is thomas voss irc nick tvoss?
[11:36] <popey> nik90: yes
[14:33] <justCarakas> good afternoon all
[14:33] <justCarakas> or wahtever it is at your place :p
[14:35] <nik90> t1mp: ping
[14:50] <nik90> t1mp: I provided feedback on your MP at https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/50-headerTools/+merge/217586/comments/518773
[15:02] <t1mp> nik90: cool, thanks. I'll check it out
[15:13] <justCarakas> daker, do you know when I should get my email from canonical
[15:20] <t1mp> nik90: your code seems fine. Do you have a simpler test program that exposes the issue of the missing actions in the header?
[15:21] <nik90> t1mp: no not yet. But I will create one in an hour. Would you like me to create a bug report or just attach it to the MP?
[15:24] <t1mp> nik90: where do you define appSettingsAction?
[15:24] <nik90> t1mp: in the main qml file Flashback.qml
[15:25] <nik90> t1mp: I show that action in all the tabs
[15:25] <nik90> t1mp: https://github.com/krnekhelesh/flashback/blob/master/Flashback.qml
[15:39] <t1mp> nik90: I am not managing to reproduce it with my own test programs
[15:39] <nik90> t1mp: Did you use a loader for the tabs?
[15:40] <t1mp> no
[15:42] <t1mp> nik90: I'm getting your sources from git to test with that
[15:44] <nik90> ok
[15:46] <t1mp> nik90: cool app :)
[15:46] <t1mp> nik90: on the Home tab it works fine, in Movies indeed the buttons are not there
[15:46] <nik90> t1mp: thnx :)
[15:46] <nik90> t1mp: yup..and the difference between the home tab and the rest of the tabs is the use of the QML Loader
[15:51] <t1mp> nik90: I tried with                     page: MovieTab { }
[15:51] <t1mp> nik90: and still no buttons
[15:52] <t1mp> nik90: I'm still searching for the issue,
[15:52] <t1mp> nik90: but you have nice, clean code. My compliments :)
[15:56] <nik90> t1mp: wow thnx..I am always a bit paranoid about code clarity :)
[16:03] <t1mp> nik90: good. stay paranoid :)
[16:08] <balloons> nik90, for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1314533 do you plan to increase the wait timeout?
[16:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1314533 in Ubuntu Clock App "Test fails on mako #3 utopic" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[16:08] <balloons> I wonder what changed that makes it take so long
[16:09] <nik90> balloons: me too..I plan to talk to renato about this..it shouldn't take this long.
[16:09] <nik90> balloons: may be he can reduce it in EDS
[16:09] <balloons> nik90, ok, sounds like a good plan. He should be able to catch why the delay is happening, maybe add a test for it
[16:10] <nik90> balloons: yes..I cannot find him on IRC yet. will catch him when he comes online
[16:10] <nik90> balloons: I don't want to change the timeout in the clock app before confirming with renato
[16:11] <balloons> nik90, right.. We need to understand what the expected behavior is. As of now, 15 seconds isn't the expected behavior :-)
[16:11] <nik90> balloons: indeed :)
[17:46] <t1mp> nik90: hello, are you still around?
[17:51] <t1mp> nik90: I checked your comments on https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/50-headerTools/+merge/217586
[17:51] <t1mp> nik90: the requested change in the visuals is something we need to discuss with design
[17:52] <t1mp> nik90: I think I fixed the other two issues. Could you please see if it works for you too and comment on the MR?
[18:15] <rickspencer3> hey
[18:15] <rickspencer3> does anyone know how I should set the size of a Text{} using grid units?
[18:17] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, you mean the height/width of a Text component?
[18:17] <kenvandine> or the font size?
[18:17] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, the font size
[18:17] <rickspencer3> I'm trying font.pointsize
[18:18] <rickspencer3>                 font.pixelSize: units.gu(2)
[18:18] <rickspencer3> it just seems odd
[18:18] <rickspencer3> it seems to be working
[18:18] <rickspencer3> so
[18:18]  * rickspencer3 shrugs
[18:18] <kenvandine> well, why not use a Label?
[18:18] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, because:1
[18:19] <rickspencer3> oh
[18:19] <rickspencer3> like
[18:19] <rickspencer3> Label()
[18:19] <rickspencer3> Label{}
[18:19] <kenvandine> Label {}
[18:19] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, I didn't know there was such a thing
[18:19]  * rickspencer3 tries
[18:19] <kenvandine> ha
[18:19] <kenvandine> from the sdk
[18:19] <kenvandine> then set fontSize
[18:19] <kenvandine> it isn't points
[18:19] <kenvandine> x-small
[18:19] <kenvandine> small
[18:19] <kenvandine> etc
[18:19] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, can I change the font color of that
[18:19] <rickspencer3> ?
[18:19] <kenvandine> yes
[18:20] <kenvandine> it inherits from Text
[18:20] <kenvandine> i think
[18:20] <kenvandine> but it exists for resolution independence :)
[18:20] <kenvandine> so a fontSize: large is equal to some value based on the GU
[18:20] <kenvandine> but the sdk figures that out for you
[18:25] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, doesn't really work
[18:25] <rickspencer3> what the desktop considers large and what the phone considers large are very different
[18:25] <rickspencer3> large is unreadably small on the phone :(
[18:25] <kenvandine> humm
[18:26]  * rickspencer3 goes back to Text{}
[18:26] <kenvandine> large says 20px on destkop and 45px on a 4" HD screen phone
[18:26] <kenvandine> maybe there's a bug :)
[18:27] <kenvandine> developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.04/UbuntuUserInterfaceToolkit.resolution-independence/
[18:27] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, ^^ for reference
[18:27] <kenvandine> it has a table listing the sizes
[18:28] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, don't know what to say
[18:28] <rickspencer3> I got consistent results when I used text and gu
[18:28] <kenvandine> me either...
[18:28] <kenvandine> are you comparing on mako or flo?
[18:28] <rickspencer3> desktop vs mako
[18:29] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, imo if fontSize with Label isn't doing what you want, our sdk is broken
[18:30] <kenvandine> because afaik Label exists to solve the exact use case you have
[18:31]  * rickspencer3 shrugs
[18:31] <rickspencer3> I suppose it's a bug somewhere
[18:32] <kenvandine> Kaleo, ^^ am I right?
[18:32] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, how does x-large look on mako?
[18:32] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, tbh, I'm working on the next thing already, and have a call I have to get to :)
[18:32] <rickspencer3> bbiab
[18:32] <kenvandine> understand... just want to get a bug filed if needed
[18:33] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, do you have a mako?
[18:33] <kenvandine> yup
[18:34] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, should be trivial to make a little test
[18:34] <rickspencer3> it's entirely possible/likely I was doing something wrong ;)
[18:34] <kenvandine> yeah, we use that in system-settings too
[18:36] <kenvandine> i think in the list of updates available, it's using large... and i seem to recall thinking that text was small
[18:42] <t1mp> nik90: https://www.dropbox.com/s/h23z0g29e4nxm8e/Screenshot%202014-05-01%2020.42.11.png :)
[19:05] <nik90> t1mp: ooh awesome
[19:09] <t1mp> nik90: can you comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/50-headerTools/+merge/217586 if it works?
[19:09] <nik90> t1mp: already on it :)
[19:10] <t1mp> nik90: thanks
[19:10] <t1mp> nik90: The individual movie pages need a title I guess.. otherwise there is no header and no back button
[19:10] <nik90> t1mp: np. The new header is coming along nicely.
[19:10] <t1mp> nik90: but otherwise the app looks awesome :)
[19:10] <nik90> t1mp: yeah I was about to inform you about that
[19:11] <t1mp> nik90: in Flashback.qml, you can set the source of the loader of the moviesTab page to something like this:
[19:11] <t1mp>                         source: moviesTab.active ? Qt.resolvedUrl("ui/MovieTab.qml") : ""
[19:11] <t1mp> then you don't need the onSelectedTabChanged
[19:11] <nik90> t1mp: the reason  I didnt set the title is because the movie names are sometimes long and don't fit in the title. So there it will truncate the movie title which is important
[19:12] <nik90> t1mp: oh yeah..that's nice..I will do that
[19:12] <t1mp> nik90: right. I think we will run into more issues like that when more people start using the new header
[19:13] <t1mp> nik90: I didn't have time yet to consider how to break up long titles
[19:13] <nik90> t1mp: I also had that issue with the old header as well on the phone
[19:13] <t1mp> nik90: the plan is to release what is done, so that people can start using it, and if there are issues we fix them :)
[19:14] <nik90> t1mp: it is good to get the new headers soon since it will give us (core app devs) time to respond and transition to it.
[19:14] <nik90> I agree
[19:29] <rpadovani> mzanetti, hey, I'm here, when you want ping me :-)


[11:03] <anqiCN__> edubuntu &qimo which is the better?
[11:14] <alkisg> anqiCN__: they target different groups, so it depends on your needs
[11:35] <anqiCN__> what is different?
[17:48] <abhi_nav> :)
[17:49] <vijay> how to install edubuntu add-on in ubuntu 10.04
[17:49] <vijay> anybody help :)
[19:33] <FoolsRun> hi, is anyone here? I have a simple install question
[19:34] <alkisg> !ask
[19:35] <FoolsRun> The Edubuntu installer is not recognizing an existing LVM partition on the server I wish to install it on. The existing LVM partition contains an old Fedora installation that I'd like to dual boot, at least for the short term. Can I make the installer see and partition LVM?
[19:37] <alkisg> FoolsRun: edubuntu uses the same installer (ubiquity) as ubuntu, so you'll have better support if you ask that at #ubuntu
[19:37] <FoolsRun> alkisg: I've been asking for an hour in there and nobody's acknowledged my question. Thought I might have better luck here. I'll try there again, I guess.
[19:38] <alkisg> FoolsRun: I know the alternate CD recognises LVM, but I'm not sure about the desktop cd (=edubuntu/ubuntu)
[19:39] <FoolsRun> alkisg: yeah, and there isn't an Alternate CD for Edu, right?
[19:39] <alkisg> No, but you can install edubuntu-desktop after the installation
[19:41] <FoolsRun> mostly I'm concerned about the integrity of my existing Fedora install. I don't want to bork it while trying to get the disk partitioned.
[19:43]  * alkisg experience with LVM was just formatting a system that had LVM on it, to replace it with a normal partitioning scheme :D
[19:47] <FoolsRun> I'd like to just convert the partition that's there, but I doubt I could do that out from under Fedora
[19:48] <alkisg> If you have some other disk to use for backup, a tar/untar would suffice, I guess
[19:49] <alkisg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR
[19:49]  * alkisg has tried cloning with tar and it worked fine
[19:51] <FoolsRun> yeah, no other disk readily available


[22:37] <JelloPop> ActionParsnip: would have never figure that would have been in commandlinefu ? What exaclty is this commandlinefu site for?
[22:37] <panzon> also I want to uninstall gnome-desktop
[22:37] <granger> Hey, I have to increase the size of my root partition. I'm thinking of just taking my swap space and tacking it on, because I have 8 gigs of ram and don't see the need for the swap space. What is the best way to do this? My partitions are like this: 10 gig root, 8 gig swap, 450 or so gigs for my /home
[22:37] <JelloPop> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help :)
[22:37] <FernandoCueva> I have a question
[22:37] <panzon> maybe it will solve the problem
[22:37] <Fyodorovna> Decksmasher, we went through this already gnome 2 is gone.
[22:38] <FernandoCueva> what does mformat: init: set default params    means
[22:38] <ssfdre38> Decksmasher, if you really want it, install 10.04.04 LTS
[22:38] <xissburg> I installed zsh in my Ubuntu at Linode but it won't load when I conned thru ssh. Do I have to reboot the vm?
[22:39] <KM0201> cuddylier: you still there?
[22:39] <cuddylier> Yeah
[22:39] <Decksmasher> ok thanks.....i just thought there might have been some thing i could download to get the 4 desktops back
[22:39] <cuddylier> I pased the link
[22:39] <cuddylier> Here's it again http://paste.ubuntu.com/904680/  KM0201
[22:39] <KM0201> cuddylier: try typing this at the end of that file...  chroot_local_user=YES
[22:39] <ssfdre38> Decksmasher, look on the right for the icon of the 4 desktops
[22:39] <KM0201> cuddylier: yeah i saw it.. yours looks nothing like mine
[22:39] <cuddylier> :(
[22:39] <ssfdre38> i mean left
[22:39] <cuddylier> Add that at the end of the config?
[22:40] <KM0201> cuddylier: affirmative
[22:40] <KM0201> cuddylier: then stop/start the service again
[22:41] <Decksmasher> ssfdre38 i cant find them?  mouse click right?
[22:41] <cuddylier> http://pastebin.com/Z5jGLc5L
[22:42] <Adrian_23> Hola
[22:42] <cuddylier> And still no permission after even saving file
[22:42] <KM0201> cuddylier: you need to use sudo
[22:42] <ssfdre38> Decksmasher, no just look at the left of the screen at the dock above the trash can and you will see the button to press
[22:42] <cuddylier> Ohhh
[22:42] <KM0201> ..
[22:42] <KM0201> cuddylier: sudo service vsftpd stop
[22:42] <KM0201> sudo service vsftpd start
[22:42] <ddls-devbox> sudo answer my question
[22:43] <cuddylier> Now I cant connect to the ftp server anymore :(
[22:43] <KM0201> cuddylier: you should check out OMV for your server... it's pretty slick (i like it anyway)
[22:43] <cuddylier> I typed both commands
[22:43] <cuddylier> OVH?
[22:43] <KM0201> cuddylier: give it a few second
[22:43] <KM0201> cuddylier: OMV
[22:43] <Decksmasher> ssfdre88 sorry i already new that was there. i wanted to put them in to the bar across the bottom or top.
[22:43] <cuddylier> Oh..
[22:43] <KM0201> cuddylier: openmediavault.org
[22:43] <qubit[0|1]> hmm, trying to use wkhtmltopdf, its saying cannot connect to X server, this is a headless web server, whats that thing I can install again that emulates X ?
[22:43] <cuddylier> What is it
[22:43] <qubit[0|1]> or do I need X ?
[22:44] <ssfdre38> Decksmasher, yea that you would need to install ubuntu 10.04.04 LTS for
[22:44] <cuddylier> And server is down now :S
[22:44] <cuddylier> Eventhough the process is running
[22:44] <KM0201> cuddylier: did you restart it?
[22:44] <KM0201> hmm
[22:44] <cuddylier> Yeah
[22:44] <cuddylier> I did those two commands
[22:44] <ssfdre38> cuddylier, what happens when you type sudo service vsftpd start
[22:44] <dorin> ddls-devbox! which question?
[22:45] <KM0201> it says it starts
[22:45] <cuddylier>  vsftpd start/running, process 7814
[22:45] <ddls-devbox> dorin: the one about me and my lab partners connection through a series of tubes and he wont kill the connection and I want to resolve the conflict.
[22:45] <ssfdre38> cuddylier, try using the ip address as the hsot
[22:45] <ssfdre38> host*
[22:45] <Decksmasher> ssfdre88 well thanks i wont be doing that, i just need to get used to it, i dont care about compize but parts off it just need time i think.
[22:45] <cuddylier> It doesnt work either
[22:46] <KM0201> i dunno, that is weird, cuz mine is working fine
[22:46] <pupuser66d36a> hibernate has failed .... how can i reboot .... can no longer see grub menu but can boot of livecd
[22:46] <gmachine_24> Can someone do the pastebin bot for me please, I'm having a problem with a network share that until I set up ssh ran fine. More details in the pastebin. Thanks.
[22:46] <cuddylier> Connection attempt failed with "ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server".
[22:46] <KM0201> cuddylier: what are you putting in filezilla toc onnect?
[22:46] <cuddylier> Same as before when it worked
[22:47] <cuddylier> Apart from the permissions
[22:47] <gmachine_24> !pastebin
[22:47] <Decksmasher> ssfdre88..does it run fluxbox ok or not.?
[22:47] <xissburg> I installed zsh in my Ubuntu at Linode but it won't load when I conned thru ssh. Do I have to reboot the vm?
[22:47] <ssfdre38> Decksmasher, its ssfdre38 not ssfdre88
[22:48] <qubit[0|1]> xvfb is what the fake X is called, just fyi
[22:48] <KM0201> cuddylier: that just doesn't make any sense
[22:48] <Decksmasher> sorry ssfdre38
[22:48] <cuddylier> I know :(
[22:48] <KM0201> cuddylier: pastebinit /etc/vsftpd.conf   again please
[22:49] <ddls-devbox> KM0201 and cuddylier, when in doubt, check the permissions out.
[22:49] <cuddylier> http://paste.ubuntu.com/904696/
[22:49] <cuddylier> I dont have a clue about permissions
[22:49] <KM0201> ddls-devbox: permissions really shouldn't be an issue foor this... but... thats next
[22:49] <ddls-devbox> 78% of all problems in a Linux environment is due to permission problems. Think about that KM0201.
[22:50] <KM0201> lol, and 85% of statistics are pure BS
[22:50] <KM0201> cuddylier: ok, do this    cd /home
[22:50] <qubit[0|1]> KM0201++
[22:50] <KM0201> then      ls -l | pastebinit
[22:50] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: BS as in Brilliant Statistics!
[22:51] <cuddylier> http://paste.ubuntu.com/904699/
[22:51] <KM0201> cuddylier: do this in /home please
[22:51] <KM0201> cd /home
[22:51] <cuddylier> http://paste.ubuntu.com/904700/
[22:52] <KM0201> cuddylier: is ryan the one you're tryign to get on the FTP with?
[22:52] <cuddylier> Yeah
[22:52] <KM0201> man, i'm at a total loss here
[22:53] <KM0201> cuddylier: try creating a user, "just" for FTP, and see if that works... cuz i think its something weird with "ryan"
[22:53] <hnsz> Hi. Where do I put my wpa_supplicant.conf?
[22:53] <cuddylier> I'll have to do that tomorrow, got to go to bed.
[22:53] <cuddylier> Thanks for your help.
[22:53] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: you shouldn't listen to my statistics. I invent statistics 80% of the time to sound 100% more educated.
[22:53] <KM0201> cuddylier: ok.
[22:53] <KM0201> ddls-devbox: and at least 93% of the time, it's pretty entertaining
[22:53] <gr33n7007h> hnsz, /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf
[22:54] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: Its good to hear. All I say is for you, dear pokemon.
[22:55] <hnsz> gr33n7007h: Thanks. I did already put it there and expected it to load automagically on  ifup <interface> but it doesnt. I have to do it manually.
[22:55] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: Do you eat your snickers with cutlery?
[22:55] <KM0201> ok, fellas, i gotta get ready for work
[22:55] <KM0201> see you all later
[22:56] <ddls-devbox> T_T
[22:56] <hnsz> ddls-devbox: I eat the baby with the bathwater
[22:56] <KM0201> take care ddls-devbox nice chat.
[22:56] <Fyodorovna> !ot | ddls-devbox
[22:56] <gr33n7007h> hnsz, put it in startup folder
[22:56] <trism> hnsz: in /etc/network/interfaces you need to specify the path to wpa_supplicant.conf for the interface with wpa-conf /path/to/wpa_supplicant.conf
[22:56] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: thx, dito.
[22:56] <ddls-devbox> Fyodorovna: sry. Ill migrate myself.
[22:56] <gmachine_24> This is re: my network share/permissions problem on music server ---- http://paste.ubuntu.com/904709/
[22:57] <hnsz> trism: Great thanks.
[22:57] <hnsz> gr33n7007h: Thanks
[22:58] <matt-kun_> part
[22:58] <fellayaboy> how do i add a string to path environment...i want the domain name of my server in my path environment so ithat i could just press tab and complete the long name
[23:01] <seven> hi there i am new in ubuntu also new in programming;I am trying to run my first hello world program in ubuntu platform
[23:01] <seven> but its not working
[23:01] <gmachine_24> http://paste.ubuntu.com/904709/ anyone? network ssh samba share problem.............??
[23:02] <seven> i created a.out file but while i am trying to run a.out from terminal its not giving me any output,can any one please help me??
[23:02] <Pupuser402> i have a failed hibernate and would like to know how to reboot ... does not reach grub though it will boot into a livecd
 hence "pupuser" ;) : lots of stuff on google on the subject of hibernate issues but not how to reboot
[23:03] <dcluo> does anyone know more about CVE-2012-0155 than microsoft's official bulletin
[23:03] <aguitel> is possible to install cinnamon over kde with no gnome installed ?
[23:03] <Pici> dcluo: This is #ubuntu, try ##windows
[23:04] <Fyodorovna> aguitel, cinnamon is not supported here basically, but should install and work with kde.
[23:05] <Fyodorovna> aguitel, it will call for ant dependents on the install if done correctly.
[23:05] <Fyodorovna> any*
[23:05] <aguitel> Fyodorovna, thanks
[23:05] <aguitel> Fyodorovna, i will try it in 12.04
[23:05] <zandt> hi everyone. I installed PLOP boot manager, but it appears to have boinked my grub menu (my pc now boots straight to the PLOP/windows selection). I have a liveusb, but not sure how to [safely] fix grub back to the default loader/menu on boot
[23:05] <Fyodorovna> aguitel, it wont be over kde but along with.
[23:06] <Pupuser402> i have a failed hibernate and would like to know how to reboot ... does not reach grub though it will boot into a livecd
[23:06] <aguitel> Fyodorovna, yes
[23:06] <aguitel> along
[23:06] <Fyodorovna> zandt, you can only install it on windows, can you be a bit more specific.
[23:07] <zandt> I installed PLOP from windows (dual boot pc, ubuntu/windows). I can get to Windows through PLOP, but can't get to ubuntu & I can't get to my grub menu to select ubuntu
[23:07] <zandt> (I am currently in windows)
[23:08] <Fyodorovna> zandt, were you having problems booting windows?
[23:08] <zandt> Fyodorovna: no not at all. my bios doesn't support USB booting and previously I had used PLOP when I  needed to boot from USB
[23:08] <zandt> and I guess I fudged it up along the way
[23:08] <Fyodorovna> zandt, you remove plop from windows first.
[23:09] <Fyodorovna> !grub | zandt
[23:09] <zandt> Fyodorovna: is that safe? I mean, if I remove PLOP, and then GRUB doesn't come back... I would have problem as the cd drive doesn't work and my bios doesn't support USB booting
[23:10] <Fyodorovna> zandt, leave plop ifg you like I guess grub needs to be in the mbr if it is standard partitioning without a ubuntu boot partition.
[23:11] <Fyodorovna> zandt, I would use a plop bot disc personally.
[23:11] <Fyodorovna> bot*
[23:11] <meerkats> to add a ubuntu 11.10.iso copied in a usb stick to software sources its enough with copying the .iso into a usb and adding it via synaptic, isnt it?
[23:11] <zandt> Fyodorovna: I would have liked to as well. it's an old machine and it's falling apart. thanks, checking out the link
[23:12] <panzon> Hi, someone knows how to uninstall gnome and all its pannels I already install xfce, and I don't need anymore gnome stuffs
[23:12] <Fyodorovna> zandt, this usb loader has plop as a install on it as well as allowing multiple ISO's with a menu to choose the boot.
[23:13] <Fyodorovna> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[23:13] <Fyodorovna> zandt, I think it will work to bot the stick not sure really, maybe not.
[23:13] <Fyodorovna> boot
[23:13] <zandt> I can boot from the USB, no problems there
[23:14] <zandt> oh sorry, didn't see
[23:14] <zandt> :)
[23:15] <Fyodorovna> zandt, you say this "my bios doesn't support USB booting" then this "I can boot from the USB, no problems there" which is it
[23:16] <Fyodorovna> with plop I assume.
[23:16] <zandt> Fyodorovna: with plop.
[23:16] <mobilenoob11> Hi!
[23:16] <Fyodorovna> zandt, cool.
[23:16] <mobilenoob11> What is the best way to backup Ubuntu? tar, rsync?
[23:17] <Fyodorovna> mobilenoob11, clonezilla.org
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[23:17] <LetterRip> hi all - quicky question - initramfs seems to have hung
[23:17] <LetterRip> has been showing on my console for 15 minutes
[23:17] <LetterRip> ie - update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.3.0-030300-generic
[23:17] <ejv> im dissapointed rsnapshot isn't in that last. epic fail.
[23:17] <LetterRip> any suggestions?
[23:18] <lesshaste> how do I get two displays to work with the nvidia drive in oneiric?
[23:18] <Fyodorovna> LetterRip, that is 12.04 and kernels out of release are not supported.
[23:18] <lesshaste> driver
[23:19] <ejv> although it's unsupported, you could use a known working initramfs (if you ever managed to get it working)
[23:19] <LetterRip> oops meant ubuntu+1
[23:19] <LetterRip> ejv - i can boot ok with older kernels - just curious why it hangs
[23:20] <antonio__> for some reason my sound system is not working
[23:20] <Pupuser402> i have a failed hibernate and would like to know how to reboot ... does not reach grub though it will boot into a livecd
[23:20] <antonio__> trying to record through line in and its not working
[23:20] <Fyodorovna> !bootinfo | antonio__
[23:21] <Fyodorovna> antonio__, sorry wrong nic.
[23:21] <antonio__> fyodorovna: its starting up..I can get sound...
[23:21] <antonio__> ah ok..np
[23:21] <Fyodorovna> !bootinfo | Pupuser402
[23:22] <mobilenoob11> I'm going to backup ubuntu with rsync, anyone see a problem with doing the whole drive, as in "/" ?
[23:22] <Pupuser402> Fyodorovna, ty
[23:23] <ejv> mobilenoob11: besides being unnecessary? i'd limit the backup to /etc /home and /var personally
[23:23] <Fyodorovna> Pupuser402, no problem pastebin the results.txt if needed.
[23:24] <mobilenoob11> Good Point
[23:25] <ejv> mobilenoob11: /boot to if you're dependent upon a specific kernel configuration, /usr/src/linux/.config, etc. etc. anything of real importance
[23:25] <ejv> s/to/too/
[23:26] <meerkats> to add a ubuntu 11.10.iso copied in a usb stick to software sources its enough with copying the .iso into a usb and adding it via synaptic, isnt it?
[23:26] <Fyodorovna> meerkats, to be honest that makes no sense.
[23:27] <mobilenoob11> Thanks ejv
[23:27] <meerkats> can duplicated sources reduce the speed of my laptop?
[23:27] <Sadhar> Hello all, I am using Ubuntu 11.10 (X64 version) and I try to run a x32 application. but it seems nothing works. here's the paste. http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/406897/ has anyone some tips I could do? (linux32 command not works. I installed lib-32 and libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 bibliorary.)
[23:27] <Fyodorovna> meerkats, you mean you have the cd ticked on in software sources
[23:28] <lesshaste> how do I get two displays to work with the nvidia drive in oneiric?
[23:29] <meerkats> ok, I have experienced growing problems with each update of ubuntu. To try to get back some stability (now is awfully slow to the point of being unusable) I thought installing with that cd box ticked on would give me back some of that cherished stability
[23:29] <ejv> mobilenoob11: good luck
[23:29] <meerkats> last update destabilized CCSS, apparently
[23:30] <ejv> meerkats: using LTS?
[23:30] <meerkats> ejv, whats that? Im using unity
[23:31] <meerkats> now i cannot even change the size of the icons in the launcher
[23:31] <meerkats> compiz isnt responsive
[23:32] <ejv> meerkats: every 2 years, canonical releases a "long term support" build of ubuntu desktop and server; updates under LTS tend to be more conservative, with a focus on stability and security.
[23:32] <itaylor57> meerkats, what version are you running?
[23:32] <meerkats> ejv, then im afraid not... im using 11.10 on a 3.0.17 kernel
[23:32] <ejv> meerkats: the more bleeding edge you are, the more ready you should be to deal with... "issues" :)
[23:33] <meerkats> in the software sources menu, should I tick on the source code box?
[23:34] <ejv> i know very little about ubuntu's package management and even less with regards to window/open gl compisiting. best to wait for someone else to chime in :)
[23:37] <meerkats> is a good idea to upgrade from 32bits to 63bits?
[23:37] <meerkats> is it*
[23:37] <meerkats> 64*
[23:37] <itaylor57> i like 64 bit
[23:38] <bastidrazor> meerkats: that isn't an upgrade. it requires a reinstall
[23:38] <Infernal1337> hi all
[23:38] <meerkats> ok, sorry
[23:38] <meerkats> are 64bit systems faster than 32bit ones?
[23:38] <nabukadnezar43> yes
[23:39] <meerkats> twice as fast?
[23:39] <nabukadnezar43> no
[23:39] <nabukadnezar43> and it depends on your machine
[23:40] <nabukadnezar43> if you have a good pc then you should be able to get more performance
[23:41] <meerkats> now my mouse tiles, on and off
[23:41] <nabukadnezar43> and sometimes performance increase is negligible
[23:41] <TheEmpath> hi ubuntuians.  when I tpye echo "hi" in the terminal. nothing happens. :X
[23:41] <TheEmpath> and i have no idea why
[23:43] <TheEmpath> i literally have no idea what happened.... i tried putting @@echo "test" in a make file, ran it, and then echo stopped working
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: 64bit helps with data intense operations like video encoding and such
[23:44] <TheEmpath> the result of every single command prints nothing... ls, find, ps -A... im completely screwed wtf
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> TheEmpath: try:    ps -ef | less
[23:45] <TheEmpath> prints nothing
[23:45] <TheEmpath> every single command prints nothing
[23:45] <TheEmpath> ive never in my life seen this before
[23:45] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, would 64bit mean any difference if I use yacy? its very resource consuming
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> TheEmpath: how about:    ls $HOME
[23:45] <TheEmpath> ls $HOMEnothing
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> !info yacy
[23:46] <TheEmpath> prints nothing... nothing is being printed.
[23:46] <TheEmpath> it just gives me the user@pwd$ on every new line
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> TheEmpath: what is the output of:  echo $PATH
[23:47] <gr33n7007h> TheEmpath, try reset
[23:47] <TheEmpath> ActionParsnip: nothing
[23:47] <TheEmpath> anything involving output doesn't occur
[23:47] <gr33n7007h> TheEmpath, type reset
[23:47] <TheEmpath> gr33n7007h: cleared the terminal and stil nothing echos
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> TheEmpath: try running:    source ~/.bashrc
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: possibly (just websearched)
[23:48] <TheEmpath> ActionParsnip: nothing
[23:49] <TheEmpath> what the hell...
[23:49] <TheEmpath> is there a device buffer issue I could check?
[23:52] <TheEmpath> im gonna try rebooting
[23:52] <TheEmpath> i hope this doesn't destroy anything X_X
[23:53] <TheEmpath> heh.. it appears to just affect the terminal tab lol?
[23:56] <Dj_FlyBy> is it best to set a static internal ip from the router or the server or both>?
[23:56] <Clordio_> Dj_FlyBy server
[23:58] <meerkats> how do I get rid of duplicated sources? does it happen because I have added redundant ppa's?


[06:53] <bhuvan> are we supposed to cast our votes individually for all nominees (count: 5)?
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> yeah, yes, no, or other on each one
[06:57] <Madpilot> and then sabdfl gets to break ties?
[06:59] <bhuvan> so, looks like, i can vote 'yes' for all docteam members!!!
[08:36] <mdke> morning
[08:36] <Madpilot> morning mdke
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #109651 in ubuntu-doc "Change the  Compiz documentation website link in 7.04 help center" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109651
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #109719 in ubuntu-doc "erroneous information about write permission for files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109719


[03:48] <blackboxsw> smoser: for tomorrow https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/341437 a cut at the subp fix to allow for string as a command
[14:42]  * smoser thinks we should format code with isort
[14:42] <smoser> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/isort
[14:52] <ch007m> Hi
[14:52] <ch007m> Can we define the version of the package to be installed under `packages:`?
[14:53] <smoser> ch007m: possibly.
[14:54] <smoser> packages are installed from the distro
[14:55] <smoser> so.. for example in apt/ubuntu, you could do:
[14:55] <smoser>  packages: ['mypackage=1.2']
[14:55] <smoser> but that assumes taht there is a 'mypackage' at version 1.2 in your repos
[14:56] <smoser> if you had ppas or somethign that would work, but generally speaking ubuntu doesnt have 2 versions of the same package in its archives.
[15:36] <smoser> blackboxsw: https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/341465
[15:38] <blackboxsw> smoser: you can try landing that
[15:39] <blackboxsw> since review-mps runs tox, I'm not concerned about waiting for ci
[15:41] <smoser> k
[15:58] <blackboxsw> hrm something failed integration testing of my subp branch twice in a row last night. I can't reproduce the failure locally with:   tox -e citest -- run --verbose --os-name xenial --test  modules/set_password_list.  I'm kicking the builder again since we know some services were under maintenance last night
[16:27] <do3meli> smoser: you may have some spare mins to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~d-info-e/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/340757 ? ci run completed successfully.
[16:34] <smoser> do3meli: that looks fine. I dont like the long line though.
[16:34] <smoser> not sure what to do with it.
[16:34] <smoser> maybe just: See rc.conf(5) in FreeBSD 11.1
[16:36] <do3meli> smoser: hmm that would be possible. it's the same whay in rhel.py distro class...
[16:37] <do3meli> *way
[16:37] <smoser> see comment in MP
[16:38] <smoser> just change the comment i think to make shorter.
[16:38] <do3meli> smoser: fine for me. will do right now.
[16:40] <do3meli> as it is not version specific i will leave that away. ok?
[16:42] <smoser> sure. you can drop the version
[16:42] <smoser> you had that inherently in the link
[16:42] <smoser> so i left it
[16:44] <do3meli> smoser: perfect, i have commited it. ready for setting it to approve ;-) thank you
[16:44] <do3meli> (local tox run was good)
[16:49] <do3meli> thanks smoser. wish you guys a restful evening. cheers
[17:07] <ch007m> @smoser. thanks for the answer
[17:09] <smoser> blackboxsw: commented on subp branch. just a suggestion. feel free to pull either way.
[17:16] <smoser> blackboxsw: i'd like a review of https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/340140
[17:20] <blackboxsw> smoser: just left comments on https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/341417 to see what you think
[17:20] <blackboxsw> grabbing your other branch
[17:20] <blackboxsw> I know apt retries is a bit of a hot button issue :)
[17:22] <smoser> blackboxsw: hm.. that should be fixed
[17:22] <smoser> the apt thing.
[17:23] <smoser> there it is
[17:23] <smoser>  6f2aaf7b0fa9fd9376561e9b6233b4d36de51da1
[17:23] <blackboxsw> you mean apt should fix it, or cloud-init should work around it
[17:23] <blackboxsw> checking
[17:25] <blackboxsw> git push :) I'm still on d7e5385
[17:26] <smoser> blackboxsw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1693361
[17:26] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1693361 in APT "cloud-init sometimes fails on dpkg lock due to concurrent apt-daily.service execution" [Unknown,Confirmed]
[17:27] <blackboxsw> ohh I see, then this is a symptom of another problem
[17:28] <smoser> or it wasnt correclty fixed.
[17:30] <blackboxsw> each cloud-init clean --reboot --logs  traces on "apt update" on a xenial container when providing #cloud-config\ndrivers:\nnvidia: {license-accepted: true}
[17:31] <blackboxsw> without some sort of retry on CalledProcessError. I could try emitting ps output to see what else might have apt locks
[17:36] <blackboxsw> took your suggestion on fix-subp branch
[17:36] <blackboxsw> awaiting my local tox run before merging
[17:54] <blackboxsw> simpoir: I just rebased the feature/snap -module branch to pull in the util-supb fixes so unit tests will now pass there
[17:54] <blackboxsw> I didn't have to resolve any conflicts in the rebase so no changes to what you are reviewing, but thought you should know
[17:54] <blackboxsw> as unit tests locally wouldn't run until the rebase fixed it
[17:55] <simpoir> blackboxsw: ok
[17:55] <simpoir> blackboxsw: I was wondering about those
[18:04] <smoser> blackboxsw: your mrege tool should comment on the bug (possibly in addition to the merge proposal)
[18:05] <smoser> or instead of. dont know.
[18:05] <blackboxsw> smoser: you mean on merge, the bug comment should point to the commitish as committed in trunk?
[18:06] <blackboxsw> I think you mentioned that last week, and I failed to add it
[18:06]  * blackboxsw has to grab lunch back in a bit
[18:10] <smoser> hm..
[18:10] <smoser> no. you added it so it adds a comment.
[18:14] <smoser> blackboxsw: well, it makes a comment on the merge proposal
[18:14] <smoser> but does not comment on a linked bug
[18:14] <smoser>  https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/341437
[18:14] <smoser> is an example.
[18:14] <smoser> i'd like for the bug to also get a comment. possibly instead of the merge proposal, as the merge proposal does get a state change event.
[19:13] <smoser> blackboxsw: ping when around
[19:30] <blackboxsw> smoser: hangout?
[20:16] <blackboxsw> simpoir: I think we are going to try wrapping up the snap module for inclusion in cloud-init if you have a chance to wrap up a review there https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/338366
[20:50] <blackboxsw> smoser: bionic MP https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/341482
[20:50] <blackboxsw> I was awaiting snap module, but I don't think it'll make it by EOD
[20:51] <smoser> This commit fixes get_hostname on the AzureDataSource.
[20:51] <smoser> we need to be better when reading messages.
[20:51] <smoser> self referencing in the subject :)
[20:52] <smoser> instead just
[20:52] <smoser>  Fix get_hostname in Azure
[20:53] <blackboxsw> ahh I see s/This commit fixes/Fix/   gotcha. makes sense too noisy +1
[20:54]  * blackboxsw and "too noisy" are synonymous
[20:55] <simpoir> blackboxsw: added comments on MP; mostly typos and small things that may be symptomatic of my lack of knowing the codebase
[20:55] <blackboxsw> +1 simpoir I see review comments on snap stuff. fielding them now thank you
[20:55] <blackboxsw> simpoir:.... "lack of knowing the codebase"  welcome to my life.  :)
[20:56]  * blackboxsw might have a fixup to handle for containers on this branch as a result of my testing.  simpoir and I left you without a leg to stand on because I didn't give testing instructions
[20:57] <blackboxsw> sorry about that. I'll add them for reference now in the description
[20:59] <smoser> blackboxsw: ok. uploaded
[20:59] <smoser> and i fixed my branch for drivers i think
[20:59] <smoser> pylint really being a pain.
[21:00]  * blackboxsw sits on artful & xenial dev environments. I need to move to a bionic container/base system for development so I can feel the pain too
[21:00] <blackboxsw> thx smoser
[21:01] <blackboxsw> ok so we can queue drivers and snap modules for tomorrows bionic build. I might have time for review of some of the other outstanding branches  too.
[21:01] <blackboxsw> my goal is to get the ubuntu-advantage module up for your review tomorrow
[21:11] <blackboxsw> simpoir: thanks again, I finally added testing instructions that would have helped a bit. https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/338366 sorry 'bout that
[21:11] <simpoir> blackboxsw: were your testing instructions to run tox && make deb && throw in a container and call manually with a random snap like lolcat?
[21:11] <blackboxsw> yeah just that. minor sneakiness with user-data seeding
[21:12]  * simpoir feels proud for figuring it out
[21:12] <blackboxsw> I'm sure you did all that. but, it would have helped me, and I just lacked the consideration making you work hard for it
[21:12] <blackboxsw> :)
[21:12] <blackboxsw> lolcat.... good choice ;)
[21:13] <simpoir> did not know know about the clean command. I'll keep that in mind