[17:06] <erUSUL> Guest59590: maybe you did cp some_file 1 newname_with_a_number
[17:06] <erUSUL> Guest59590: the shell will see the space and copy some_file to a file named 1
[17:06] <Spamicles> im getting a purple screen with some icons (stick man in a circle) when trying to boot from cd and install ubuntu. how can i fix this? ive checked google and people mention hitting f6 or spacebar, but this doesn't do anything. can anyone help?
[17:07] <Mwen____> printing a pdf file in command line.
[17:07] <erUSUL> Mwen____: lpr file.pdf
[17:07] <LJRuff> Spamicles, hit a key
[17:07] <Guest59590> erUSUL, LJRuff, there is a lot of them throughout my filesystem i guess some app is causing this
[17:07] <Spamicles> LJRuff, nothing. the little guy is still there
[17:07] <LJRuff> Spamicles, it's a splash screen. Just hit any key to get around it to the boot menu for the live CD.
[17:08] <LJRuff> Spamicles, really? Hmmm
[17:08] <abhi_nav> anyone teach me how to use date command to convert utc to my local time?
[17:08] <Spamicles> LJRuff, is it possible my screen alignment is bad and im not seeing menu options or something?
[17:08] <LJRuff> Spamicles, it should not be. Did you check the md5sum of the .iso you downloaded and burned?
[17:08] <Spamicles> LJRuff, nope. i got it from the official ubuntu site about 10 min ago.
[17:09] <erUSUL> Guest59590: are they empty?
[17:09] <Mwen____> thanks
[17:09] <abhi_nav> LJRuff, can you teache me to use date command?
[17:09] <LJRuff> Spamicles, always check the md5sum even if it comes from a trusted source. The download might have been corrupted.
[17:09] <Guest59590> erUSUL, no they are not, but i cannot say what the content means
[17:10] <LJRuff> abhi_nav, man <command> to learn all about it. It's the Hacker Way. Learn it. Love it. =)
[17:10] <erUSUL> Guest59590: run « file 1 »
[17:10] <abhi_nav> LJRuff, I know that. But confusion.
[17:10] <Guest59590> erUSUL, 1: UTF-8 Unicode English text, with CRLF, LF line terminators
[17:11] <erUSUL> Guest59590: a normal text file?
[17:11] <Spamicles> LJRuff, would a corrupt install boot?
[17:11] <LJRuff> Spamicles, I'd recommend downloading another .iso, running a checksum (you *need* to do this. We *cannot* help you or verify the authenticity of the image unless you check it!!!) and then burning it as slowly as your software/hardware will allow.
[17:11] <Guest59590> erUSUL, yes it's readable text, but does not say much to me
[17:11] <LJRuff> Spamicles, it might - it depends on what is corrupted and what isn't.
[17:11] <erUSUL> Guest59590: paste it ?
[17:11] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[17:11] <LJRuff> abhi_nav, you need to transfer from utc to local?
[17:11] <abhi_nav> LJRuff, yes. to attend ubuntu devleoper week
[17:12] <P-Nuts> I've just upgraded to Lucid from Jaunty, and I don't like the monochrome panel icons.  How do I get the colorful ones back?
[17:12] <Riotta> is it possible to mount nfs share in fstab using two ip <IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS> like that in one entry?
[17:12] <LJRuff> abhi_nav, http://www.computerhope.com/unix/udate.htm
[17:12] <rmrfslash> Is there a minimal Ubuntu installer e.g. the smallest possible ubuntu release a la DSL or TinyCore?
[17:12] <sebsebseb> !minimal | rmrfslash
[17:13] <erUSUL> abhi_nav: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
[17:13] <Guest59590> erUSUL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/459902/
[17:14] <oCean_> Riotta: using 2 ipadresses for 1 mount? Isn't that weird?
[17:15] <FabParma> i installed few applications from "Ubuntu Software Center" but i cant see the icons in the applications  menu. any idea? have i to rebuild the entire menu maybe by a command?
[17:15] <Vaevictus> Riotta: instead of two nfs lines? i don't think so, no
[17:15] <erUSUL> Guest59590: looks like ~/.xsession-errors or the log of some program
[17:15] <Riotta> oCean_: nope cause I got two adresses in network which are changing
[17:15] <kexsteve> I'm using a Line 6 toneport and got it to work as a usb sound card but I still don't know how to change its buffer size. Can someone help me?
[17:15] <Riotta> first who open up computer got first ip
[17:16] <oCean_> Riotta: in that case: the answer is no
[17:16] <Vaevictus> Riotta: nfs is from one box to one box. it doesn't support dynamically changing ip addresses.
[17:16] <LJRuff> FabParma, either reboot or run them from CLI to see if that loads the icon into the menu.
[17:16] <Vaevictus> Riotta: solve your dhcp problem.
[17:16] <Riotta> yeah but maybe it's possible to tell ip range
[17:16] <Riotta> fstab
[17:16] <oCean_> Riotta: nope
[17:16] <erUSUL> Riotta: make the server allways get the same ip from dhcp ( tweak the dhcp server ) ??
[17:16] <Vaevictus> Riotta: no.
[17:16] <Riotta> ok thx
[17:16] <Vaevictus> Riotta: just fix dhcp :)
[17:17] <Vaevictus> Riotta: "static dchp lease"
[17:17] <abhi_nav> LJRuff, erUSUL ok thanks. :)
[17:17] <selofi> buenas
[17:17] <FabParma> LJRuff: already done, nothing appens. imagine, one of that applications is virtualbox
[17:17] <erUSUL> !es | selofi
[17:17] <Riotta> will check that
[17:17] <Riotta> thx
[17:17] <barfster> I would like to make a small image for virtual machine to run bind/named, IPv4 and vim, what would be the minimum install for such a setup? I would assume starting from ubuntu minicd would be a good choice, but then what?
[17:17] <erUSUL> barfster: ubuntu has JeOS images for that iirc
[17:18] <AhmedBH> hi, i have two lucid installed on my computer so i have dualbooting and i created a EXT4 partition and when i move my data to that drive its fine and when i login from another lucid i cant access the drive i mean i can see it but it will disappear then, what do i do ?
[17:18] <LJRuff> FabParma, well you can always load the icons manually. Run << which <command >> to find out the command's path, then right click on the Applications menu, choose Edit Menus, then create new launchers where the command is the path to the command in bash.
[17:18] <sebsebseb> AhmedBH: Why dual boot two Lucid installs?
[17:19] <sebsebseb> AhmedBH: also you want a seperate /home really, to share between the same version or differnet versions of Ubuntu, or other Linux distros even
[17:19] <AhmedBH> sebsbseb: Good question, just i have GURB on 2nd and thats why because i am learning it so i dont wanna lose bootup so easily how ever so if i lose the boot up from the first i still will have GRUB on second so i can easily move up on second muhahah:P
[17:20] <AhmedBH> sebsebseb: Well no same Lucid LTS
[17:20] <erUSUL> !jeos
[17:20] <JohnRandom> hi everyone
[17:20] <erUSUL> barfster: ^
[17:20] <AhmedBH> actually i wanna have a ext4 partition for backup data etc :)
[17:20] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | AhmedBH
[17:20] <kexsteve> how to change audio buffer size for an usb sound card?
[17:20] <LJRuff> !hi | JohnRandom
[17:20] <AhmedBH> I have no problem with grub uh
[17:20] <JohnRandom> quick question, is this the right place to ask about mysql start up problems um lucid?
[17:20] <erUSUL> kexsteve: maybe in #alsa ??
[17:21] <sebsebseb> AhmedBH: you only really need one install of Ubuntu
[17:21] <JohnRandom> or would that rather be #mysqld?
[17:21] <AhmedBH> i just wanna create a ext4 partition which i can ACCESS from both lucid when i login could read and write thats it
[17:21] <AhmedBH> sebsebseb:  I guess i know that
[17:21] <sebsebseb> !home | AhmedBH
[17:21] <sebsebseb> AhmedBH: however sharing a home between distros uhmm or same version of Ubuntu uhmm
[17:22] <AhmedBH> sebsebseb: I even lost a natilous i dont know i changed the path or what ever i cant see the anything but wallpaper after login uh and few erros
[17:22] <Spamicles> LJRuff, the hashes match. what should i do now?
[17:22] <LJRuff> Spamicles, slow burn?
[17:22] <FabParma> LJRuff: ialready done once but it takes long times, in more i miss at least 30 icons...  how its possible that Ubuntu has not a sort of rebuild/refresh applications menu links/icons?
[17:23] <Q-Tipped> hello guys, i'm having a really strange problem. earlier on, i tried to install ubuntu using a really old live cd i had lying around. just as i was partitoning over my windows (i was partitoning the whole disk) there was a power cut. when the power came back on, i tried to restart the install, but now my HDD isn't being detected at all.
[17:23] <tomatto_> how can i reconfigure package xserver-xorg-video-intel
[17:23] <tomatto_> ?
[17:23] <Q-Tipped> ... I can't boot into it, either, so I'm stuck on this live CD
[17:23] <AhmedBH> Anyways i will check it myself :P peoples are sleepin in  here
[17:23] <sebsebseb> AhmedBH: How about moving your data to an external hard disk or something,  and then getting rid of both your Lucid installs, and only doing one, but before installing telling the installer to make a seperate /home ?
[17:23] <abhi_nav> LJRuff, may ask to do something?
[17:24] <LJRuff> abhi_nav, what's up?
[17:24] <abhi_nav> LJRuff, nothing. leave it.
[17:24] <Q-Tipped> anyone? :/
[17:24] <xiaoyang_> 大家啊好
[17:24] <aarondbowen> I have a question about virtualizing an existing version of XP located on a daisy chained 2nd HDD
[17:24] <LJRuff> !ch | xiaoyang_
[17:24] <terry_> like whats that
[17:24] <xiaoyang_> 我是新手，不知道怎么用xchat
[17:24] <LJRuff> !chinese | xiaoyang_
[17:24] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: ok
[17:25] <iflema> Q-Tipped what livecd? version? Is gparted listed under the desktop menu System / administration? how does it report the disk?
[17:25] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: 1.  If you lose power on an install  it will probably mess up a lot.  2.  Maybe your hard disk is broken.  3. An old Live CD for which version?
[17:25] <terry_> man kubuntu help here?
[17:25] <Q-Tipped> iflema no, it's not.
[17:26] <terry_> kubuntu help here?
[17:26] <abhi_nav> terry_, #kubunty
[17:26] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb it's aeons old, i'm not sure what version it is. and yeah, i know. i don't think it's dead, though :/
[17:26] <xiaoyang_> Is this a English room???
[17:26] <abhi_nav> terry_, #kubuntu
[17:26] <sebsebseb> terry_: #kubuntu
[17:26] <nmvictor> is their a regexp to match an emty line?
[17:26] <xiaoyang_> what's mean??
[17:26] <aarondbowen> can anyone help with with a virtualizing issue?
[17:26] <abhi_nav> !en | xiaoyang_
[17:26] <xiaoyang_> I don't know
[17:26] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: ok well thats silly to install from a really old Live CD,  espesailly since the version will no longer be supported
[17:26] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: and then depending on the version it could be quite the thing to upgrade to a supported version
[17:27] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb i know, i was intending to update after the install.
[17:27] <xiaoyang_> Please answer me,thank you
[17:27] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: plus you'll have Ext3 not Ext4, altough Ext4 doesn't really offer that much advantage anyway
[17:27] <nmvictor> I have never joined this channel to find less than 1000 nick, means ubuntu is a popular software among all free&opensource software with a channel in freenode
[17:27] <bazhang> xiaoyang_, /join #ubuntu-cn
[17:27] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb, that's if i get the harddrive working again :P
[17:27] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: plus your system will be a bit more clean, if you don't upgrade from a previous version
[17:28] <nmvictor> is their a regexp to match an emty line?
[17:28] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb if i could get my computer working again, i'll likely download the newest ubuntu install, burn it and format again
[17:28] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: well ##hardware for hardware issues
[17:29] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: and before burning the ISO contents to CD, good idea to check  that the ISO is good :)
[17:29] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[17:29] <sebsebseb> !hashes
[17:29] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb i'm not sure it's a hardware issue, is it? i know i say my harddrive's not working, but i just mean it's not being detected by the partitioner.
[17:29] <tomatto_> how run my ubuntu in low graphics mode/failsafe ? why? how to change it to right?
[17:30] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: well get the latest version now?  and if that won't detect the harddrive, probably a hardware issue
[17:30] <Q-Tipped> and i know it's being detected by the PC because when i try to boot from my HDD it says 'no bootable partiton detected'
[17:30] <Anonymous7234665> Hey guys, the folks at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>need a little help anybody care to pitch in?
[17:30] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: oh right ok
[17:30] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: yeah the install messed up
[17:30] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb sorry if i explained it badly.
[17:30] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: so it can't boot anything up
[17:30] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: and you don't have Windows on there I guess?
[17:30] <Lim0n> how do i bind alt+f1 to open up mint menu?
[17:31] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: no partition, or well a partition that doesn't work properly, and yep no boot
[17:31] <abhi_nav> Lim0n, keyboard shortcuts
[17:31] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb i had windows on there, but not anymore.
[17:31] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: I think it will be ok
[17:31] <Lim0n> abhi_nav: yeah the only thing i can figure out atm is alt_L
[17:31] <Lim0n> how would i make a "combo"
[17:31] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: get the latest Live CD or maybe 9.10, since thats better than 10.04 in quite a few ways really :D.  install that and yeah :)
[17:31] <velociostrich> I have an ethernet card that I've installed in a machine that I just put Ubuntu 9.10 server on, and I don't know how to get it to work. I know for a fact that it does work with 9.10 server out-of-the-box, but I've installed the card _after_ installing Ubuntu. The card shows up when I run lspci and lshw -class network, but for the latter, it says "DISABLED" next to the card name, and the device doesn't show up with ifconfig.
[17:32] <abhi_nav> ahhhh i just pressed alt + l & it cleared my xchat log
[17:32] <abhi_nav> :(
[17:32] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb yeah, i'm a bigger fan of 9.04 that 10.04 :P i'll try, i can download it on the livecd and then put it on a USB Drive, right?
[17:32] <FabParma> Does Ubuntu or some application to rebuild/refresh the *applications menu links*? At the moment I missing many in my menu, to use them I need to launch via console or manually create link. It is so uncomfortable ;)
[17:32] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: yeah I much prefer 9.04  myself, to 9.10 or 10.04, thing is
[17:32] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: that version will run out of support at the end of October :(
[17:32] <soreau> velociostrich: Sounds like it isnt autoloading the appropriate driver for the ethernet card
[17:32] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb well, hopefully the issues with 10 will be cleaned up by then :P
[17:32] <Anonymous7234665> http://www.pagereboot.com/?url=http://www.google.com/search?q=threat%20to%20internet%20privacy%20thanks%20to%20ACTA&refresh=4
[17:33] <velociostrich> soreau: how can I find out if the module is being loaded? It's some kind of 3Com card
[17:33] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: I have a feeling the Plymouth issues will be well there to stay
[17:33] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: or at least for quite a while yet
[17:33] <velociostrich> soreau: I can get specifics if necessary
[17:33] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: shame they didn't do Plymouth properly, like  Mandriva or Fedora and such.
[17:33] <soreau> velociostrich: You need to figure out what linux kernel module supports it, then load the driver with  modprobe
[17:33] <soreau> velociostrich: You need to figure out what linux kernel module supports it, then load the driver with  modprobe <module name>
[17:33] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb hm. i haven't followed Ubuntu closely, if i'm honest. i switched to using a modified version of crunchbang a while back. yeah, it's a shame it didn't come out right. ubuntu's a good distro.
[17:34] <Njh> hey, I'm trying to mv a file using sudo, but I am getting "no tty present and no askpass program specified", anyone know how to fix this?
[17:34] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: from a blueprint I read for 10.10 though, it seems they may be fixing it a bit for that one,  I hope so :)
[17:34] <Lim0n> abhi_nav: the default is "<Control>Super_L" i've tried <Alt_L>F1, <F1>Alt_L. none of them bring up the menu :<
[17:34] <velociostrich> soreau: will try, thanks
[17:34] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb cool :) so, if the partition's still not detected in 9.04, what'd you suggest?
[17:34] <abhi_nav> Lim0n, u in xchat too?
[17:34] <MaRk-I> Lim0n: just bind the "super" key
[17:34] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: anyway 9.04 sounds alright, and then you can upgrade to 10.10 when that runs out of support
[17:34] <soreau> velociostrich: Try lspci, then google the relevant output for the model etc and search with keyword ubuntu
[17:34] <Lim0n> irssi
[17:35] <nmvictor> velociostrich: sudo cat /etc/modules, to check if a module is automatically loaded, if not, append the module name to the contents of that file, sudo echo "module_name" >> /etc/modules
[17:35] <velociostrich> soreau: do you know the name of that configuration file that says what modules to load? because I have another machine that I could SSH into and see what module it loads -- that's the machine that I borrowed the card from
[17:35] <tomatto_> why run my ubuntu in low graphics mode/failsafe ? why? how to change it to right?
[17:35] <soreau> velociostrich: If its a really new model card, it might only be supported in newer kernels
[17:35] <abhi_nav> Lim0n, try MaRk-I 's suggestin
[17:35] <velociostrich> soreau: no, it's pretty ancient
[17:35] <soreau> ok
[17:35] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: if 9.04 won't detect the hard disk, well I guess there is a hard disk failure or something
[17:35] <Lim0n> yeah that works, but i just wanna know how to make a combination bind :\
[17:35] <Lim0n> i dunno the syntax to make them
[17:36] <abhi_nav> me too
[17:36] <soreau> velociostrich: AFAIK, there is a blacklist for modules but it should autodetect and autoload everything else
[17:36] <velociostrich> soreau: *facepalm* I can't SSH into the machine that I borrowed the card from, because it doesn't have a card in it -- d'oh! I'll just have to search for the card with lspci output
[17:36] <nmvictor> tomatto_: tampered with your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, if you are using. if not you might need to use it
[17:36] <soreau> velociostrich: Right, I was wondering when you said that..
[17:36] <velociostrich> soreau: thanks for the help; I'll try googling
[17:36] <tomatto_> nmvictor: have some xorg.conf for intel graphics card?
[17:37] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb, i don't understand it, though. i mean, the harddrive's working, obviously, because i get an error message saying it can find 'no bootable partitons' during startup. :S
[17:37] <tomatto_> gma950
[17:37] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: yes
[17:37] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: I told you already
[17:37] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: your install messed up, so it can't boot
[17:37] <Q-Tipped> oh, i thought you meant that the hard disk failure means that it would be a hardware error, sebsebseb, sorry.
[17:38] <nmvictor> tomatto_: na, only have one in my ibook g4, might help though, let me fire it up and paste it over, wanna have it?
[17:38] <tomatto_> nmvictor: yes i wanna have it
[17:39] <julianoliver> hi. i am trying to diagnose why my install of a lightly customised Ubuntu always boots read only. i've remounted it as rw and it works fine and ensured that /etc/fstab has entries identical to my other Ubuntu and debian installs where applicable. any ideas?
[17:39] <Slart> julianoliver: nothing weird in the grub boot line?
[17:39] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb, how can i make 9.04 run from a usb stick? i can't use the startup disc maker, because it isn't included in this version.
[17:40] <nmvictor> tomatto_: ok, gine my old ibook some time to fire up, its quite old
[17:40] <sav> is there any problem with ubuntu package server for jaunty? I can't get updates.
[17:40] <nmvictor> tomatto_: give*
[17:40] <abhi_nav> !unetbootin | Q-Tipped
[17:40] <nmvictor> tomatto_: i'll be back,
[17:41] <iflema> Q-Tipped what else is on the drive? anything important?
[17:41] <julianoliver> Slart: nothing at all, at least to me. identical to my other installs.
[17:42] <Slart> julianoliver: and nothing in the logs?
[17:42] <insider> Need assistance, Konqueror file manager 3.5.1 does not save my view mode for each folder individually, i changed /home/user/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc MainViewSettings section but it didn't help
[17:42] <sav> insider: shouldn't irc as root. "they" will p0wn you.
[17:43] <timemachine3030> after my upgrade to 10.04 I'm having strange redirect problem when trying to go to google.com ... any clue where to start tracking down what is causing this?
[17:43] <abhi_nav> insider, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[17:43] <aeon-ltd> sav: why not run irc as root, besides it being unneccessary/
[17:43] <insider> ubuntu
[17:44] <julianoliver> Slart: dmesg is full of output that the file system is read only. nothing in /var/ is written of course. i'll try a full fsck and see where it leads. quite peculiar..
[17:44] <sav> aeon-ltd: because irc clients have bugs. some bugs can be exploited to run arbitrary code. arbitrary code can do harm to your system, specially when this code has special priviledges.
[17:44] <aeon-ltd> timemachine3030: well what happens when you try?
[17:44] <sav> aeon-ltd: thought it was trivial tho. pretty obvious.
[17:44] <aeon-ltd> sav: oh you mean like if someone pm'ed a script
[17:44] <timemachine3030> aeon-ltd, i get redirected to a yahoo 403 error.
[17:44] <sav> aeon-ltd: not only. that's naive. but anyway, never mind :)
[17:44] <Slart> julianoliver: mm.. it seems odd that it would go read-only without there being some trace of why it does it..
[17:44] <aeon-ltd> timemachine3030: check your dns settings in your browser
[17:44] <insider> aeon-ltd: can help?
[17:45] <timemachine3030> in both firefox and chrome
[17:45] <aeon-ltd> insider: what?
[17:45] <aeon-ltd> timemachine3030: yeah
[17:45] <insider> Konqueror file manager 3.5.1 does not save my view mode for each folder individually, i changed /home/user/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc MainViewSettings section but it didn't help
[17:45] <insider> ubuntu 8.10
[17:45] <magicLemon> hmm
[17:46] <IdleOne> !details | insider
[17:46] <sebsebseb> !8.10 | insider
[17:46] <sebsebseb> insider: Rather nice release sadly no longer supported!
[17:47] <insider> i do not want to upgrade)
[17:47] <sebsebseb> insider: well you should, you don't get any security updates for 8.10 anymore
[17:47] <hotfloppy> !eol > hotfloppy
[17:47] <sebsebseb> !eol | hotfloppy insider
[17:47] <Q-Tipped> right guys, i've got a big problem. earlier on i tried to install Ubuntu 9.04 from a live cd, and half way through there was a powercut. when the power came back, i tried to boot into windows and i got a message saying 'no bootable partition detected'. i imagine this is because the installer messed up, so i booted up the live cd and tried to run through the install again, only for it to tell me that it detects no partitions on my compu
[17:47] <IdleOne> insider: at this point you are running an unsupported release. No security updates!
[17:47] <abhi_nav> hotfloppy, this way /msg ubottu !factoid
[17:47] <Q-Tipped> can anyone suggest what i can do to fix it? :/
[17:48] <sebsebseb> insider: you should upgrade to at least 9.04,  you have untill the end of October with that one, before that goes end of life as well
[17:48] <aeon-ltd> Q-Tipped: your gonna need to restore mbr or get grub
[17:48] <insider> I have a problem with Konqueror file manager, I'm running Ubuntu version 8.10 intrepid When I try to change view mode for folder It changes globally but not individually for each folder but I expected it to do so
[17:48] <Q-Tipped> aeon-ltd how can i do that?
[17:48] <julianoliver> Slart: well it can't write any logs, so it's tricky. /var is ro also.
[17:49] <hotfloppy> lol.. thanks abhi_nav n sebsebseb :P
[17:49] <Slart> julianoliver: ah.. didn't think of that
[17:49] <aeon-ltd> Q-Tipped: either try the install again, complete it ensuring install bottloader was done or use supergrubdisk
[17:49] <Slart> julianoliver: perhaps creating a ramdisk for /var will enable you to see the logs?
[17:49] <insider> sebsebseb: i don't mid security
[17:49] <insider> *mind
[17:49] <sebsebseb> insider: loads of bad stuff can happen to a computer, if it is not kept secure enough!
[17:50] <maco2> aeon-ltd: the problem isnt a lack of bootloader. it's a corrupt partition table
[17:50] <sebsebseb> insider: and yes this does include operating systems that aren't Windows as well
[17:50] <IdleOne> insider: Any decent system administrator considers security over usability. I highly recommend you upgrade.
[17:50] <insider> sebsebseb: i'm running only few daemons with open ports and they are up to date
[17:50] <Q-Tipped> aeon-ltd, i'll try running through the install again. i'll give you a shout in a second, but i don't think it'll work because it can't detect any partitions at the mo.
[17:50] <aeon-ltd> maco2: we don't know that for sure, maybe it was just sda1/hda1 was cut during the overwrite of mbr
[17:51] <aeon-ltd> Q-Tipped: well you just proved maco2 right
[17:51] <maco2> aeon-ltd: if the installer is also not seeing a partition table?
[17:51] <aeon-ltd> maco2: read above
[17:51] <sebsebseb> insider: none of the packages in the 8.10 repos are up to date, since the release is no longer supported.  You could maintain the system yourself a bit, but you can't quarrantee that by doing so your properly secure, unless you know properly what you are doing.
[17:51] <Q-Tipped> aeon-ltd, maco2, so, what can i do? :/
[17:52] <antivirtel> hello all, I want to setup the apt-cacher package version 1.6.8: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-cacher ; but in lucid repo nothing about this version (the lastest version doesent worked for me in other machine, but 1.6.8 is still works there); from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-cacher I can download .tar.gz file, how can I install it ?
[17:52] <maco2> Q-Tipped: not much. get a UPS so power cuts dont kill ya next time
[17:52] <iflema> Q-Tipped in a terminal       sudo fdisk /dev/sda        if that goes through press 'p'
[17:52] <maco2> Q-Tipped: you can try to recreate teh partition table with fdisk like iflema  is saying
[17:52] <maco2> Q-Tipped: if it matches what you had before you could be lucky and have it work
[17:52] <insider> sebsebseb: compiling is not in vogue
[17:53] <sebsebseb> insider: anyway 9.04 is quite similar to 8.10,  so why not upgrade to that at least?  Then 9.10 or whatever that is still supported after that?
[17:53] <aeon-ltd> antivirtel: extract it, cd into it, ./configure, make, make install, do those
[17:53] <Q-Tipped> maco2, iflema i'm getting an error: 'unable to open /dev/sda'
[17:53] <maco2> Q-Tipped: and if you dont format, the list of inodes at the start of your ntfs drive will be intact making data recovery possible
[17:53] <insider> sebsebseb: i used 9.10 and do not like it
[17:53] <maco2> Q-Tipped: did you "fdisk" or "sudo fdisk"?
[17:53] <antivirtel> aeon-ltd :O I thook that it isnt a source, thanks, i compile it :)
[17:53] <Q-Tipped> maco2 sudo fdisk
[17:54] <insider> grub 2 is damn piece of sh.t
[17:54] <sebsebseb> insider: I am not that keen on 9.10 myself, but now I prefer it to 10.04 :)   when 9.10 was the latest release,  I switched distro :D
[17:54] <aeon-ltd> antivirtel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[17:54] <sebsebseb> insider: yes I don't like Grub 2 myself, but heres the good news
[17:54] <maco2> insider: obfuscated swearing is still swearing
[17:54] <maco2> insider: and thus not allowed here
[17:54] <sebsebseb> insider: if you upgrade your 8.10 install, you will still have the old version of Grub yourself, unless you install the later yourself
[17:54] <insider> sorry
[17:55] <jakexks> what's wrong with grub2 then?
[17:55] <IdleOne> jakexks: nothing
[17:55] <aeon-ltd> jakexks: the new config file layout
[17:55] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: just hates change :P
[17:55] <Q-Tipped> maco2, 'sudo fdisk /dev/sda'
[17:55] <insider> if i upgrade more than half of my things won/t work
[17:55] <maco2> jakexks: nothing, just most people havent learned the new way to configure stuff
[17:55] <iflema> Q-Tipped in a terminal       sudo fdisk -l
[17:55] <aeon-ltd> jakexks: and the slightly crapper (IMO) automagic system
[17:55] <sebsebseb> jakexks:  many of us prefer the old version, since we know how to deal with it :)  and  also we get what we want from a bootloader with it, we don't need the extra stuff that Grub 2 offers
[17:55] <insider>  jakexks: beta is beta
[17:55] <maco2> insider: grub2 isnt beta...
[17:55] <nmvictor> tomatto_: back
[17:55] <Q-Tipped> iflema what after that?
[17:55] <sebsebseb> insider: that depends on what change it is
[17:55] <sebsebseb> insider: wrong one
[17:56] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: ^
[17:56] <tomatto_> nmvictor: great. do you have it?
[17:56] <iflema> Q-Tipped error?
[17:56] <maco2> Q-Tipped: i dont know why it's doing that
[17:56] <Q-Tipped> iflema nopoe.
[17:56] <renee> hi
[17:56] <IdleOne> hello renee
[17:56] <maco2> insider: what do you mean that half your stuff won't work? did some of your hardware lose support in some version?
[17:56] <Q-Tipped> want me to pastebin my console, maco2/iflema?
[17:56] <sebsebseb> insider: ok what else don't you like about later versions of Ubuntu?
[17:56] <v0lksman> I interrupted my screensaver as it was kicking in but now I'm stuck with a half dimmed screen.  how can I restore the brightness?
[17:56] <oxyrosis> im trying to load firefox and i get this terminal message "Couldn't load XPCOM."
[17:56] <insider> sebsebseb: changes in appearance
[17:57] <nmvictor> tomatto_: have a look at http://paste2.org/get/905563
[17:57] <nmvictor> tomatto_: no coments nor notes in so you are on you on
[17:57] <sebsebseb> insider: such as?  and oh  can make even 10.04 look very much so,  like the old versions such as 8.10
[17:57] <v0lksman> I've tried letting the screen saver kick in on its own and then waking it up again but I'm still dimmed
[17:57] <insider> sebsebseb: new versions are more space dependant
 +antivirtel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware <--- yeah, thx, I compiled yet some other thing :)
[17:57] <aeon-ltd> oxyrosis: tried reinstalling?
[17:57] <svpk> l
[17:57] <iflema> Q-Tipped do you know the partition number of the failed install? pastebin the output
[17:57] <oxyrosis> through synaptic, i did. but i didnt mark for complete removal, i dot wanna lose my bookmarks
[17:57] <maco2> insider: there's a site that has all the old wallpapers, and the theme didnt really change until 10.04, but in 10.04 minimizing necessary screen real estate was a concern in the theming
[17:57] <Q-Tipped> iflema i'm imagining it's 1.
[17:58] <nmvictor> tomatto_: just an  advice, you might wanna comment out the modeline, they are specific to the size of the screen so my 12' inch ibook might not be having the same modeline as you X' inch creen
[17:58] <Q-Tipped> iflema i don't have any other partitions.
[17:58] <tomatto_> nmvictor: do you know what driver is for intel gma950 for write it to xorg.conf?
[17:58] <maco2> tomatto_: "intel"
[17:58] <nmvictor> tomatto_: just use at
[17:58] <maco2> tomatto_: why do you need an xorg.conf at all?
[17:58] <Q-Tipped> iflema http://pastebin.com/8rdyxvVW
[17:58] <insider> sebsebseb: i don't like Compiz and so onб why should i disable all this whistles
[17:58] <nmvictor> tomatto_: but google to be sure
[17:59] <tomatto_> maco2: because ubuntu runs gnome with log-graphics mode
[17:59] <tomatto_> maco2: do you know what do with that?
[17:59] <jagosix> how do you stop a printjob ?
[17:59] <sebsebseb> insider: maybe you should do Debian :)  since Ubuntu is based on Debian, quite similar to Ubuntu, but will come without the features you don't want I guess :)
[17:59] <insider> maco2: no one had experience with konqueror?
[17:59] <abhi_nav> LJRuff, erUSUL hey thanks you guys. I understood date command.
[18:00] <sebsebseb> insider: Konqueror :)
[18:00] <Q-Tipped> iflema ideas?
[18:00] <v0lksman> damn this is annoying
[18:00] <jagosix> my printer keeps spitting out garbage
[18:00] <insider> sebsebseb: ubuntu is more humane)
[18:00] <maco2> nmvictor: konqueror is ... ugh. bad rendering
[18:00] <maco2> nmvictor: er not you
[18:00] <nmvictor> tomatto_: said ati coz its a commin driver for most cards, do lspci } grep VGA , if you see anything like ati technologies then use ati, else {google(driver for ur card}
[18:00] <maco2> insider: im not into konqueror (bad rendering) though i use kubuntu
[18:00] <sebsebseb> maco2: Konqueror is very fast, and displays most webpages ok I guess, well maybe not exactly.
[18:00] <maco2> tomatto_: thats rather odd for intel graphics
[18:00] <Spamicles> when i do /cat/proc/cpuinfo can i tell if the computer is 64 or 32 bit? i cant figure out any other way to do it =]
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> v0lksman:  theres some brightness applets, and my laptops have a brightness keys
[18:00] <iflema> Q-Tipped try      sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[18:01] <nmvictor> tomatto_: lspci | grep VGA
[18:01] <oxyrosis> is there a way to save my bookmarks before i reinstall?
[18:01] <insider> maco2: i use it like file manager and as browser chrome and mozilla
[18:01] <v0lksman> Dr_Willis, this is  a desktop...
[18:01] <maco2> sebsebseb: slashdot not working in konq is why Riddell wanted a webkit browser in kubuntu
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> v0lksman:  the applkets may still work.
[18:01] <IdleOne> Spamicles: what does uname -a return?
[18:01] <Q-Tipped> iflema same error, unable to open /dev/hda
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> v0lksman:  ive never seen the issue happen to anyone else in here. so not sure what else to tell you to try
[18:01] <maco2> insider: ah. have you seen dolphin, the new kde file manager?
[18:01] <kleopatra> hi, i really tried to google it, but didnt find anything useful: How can i set/change env-variables permanently?
[18:01] <v0lksman> Dr_Willis, any idea what they are called?
[18:01] <insider> maco2: not good for me
[18:01] <willz> I installed kde and realized it to be a grave mistake. Now when I wanted to uninstall it - all the packages that came with it isin't removed. I want that. I want it gone. apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop didn't remove them although apt-get install kubuntu-desktop installed em all
[18:01] <maco2> kleopatra: put them in your ~/.profile
[18:01] <sebsebseb> maco2: Riddell that names sounds a ltitle familur or something, whos that?   also instead of Apple forking KHTML why didn't they just improve it?
[18:01] <IdleOne> Spamicles: oh wait, uname -a will show installed system not what your hardware is capable of
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> v0lksman:  Nope. I use my laptop keys.  use the seardh feature of synaptic
[18:01] <pm2> Hi - I have one ATI and one nVidia video card.  I want to setup a dual monitor setup - is this possible, or do I need two cards of the same type?
[18:02] <Spamicles> IdleOne, well the live disk im running is 32 bit but im trying to find out if the processor is 64 bit so i can install 64
[18:02] <Spamicles> IdleOne, yeah =]
[18:02] <insider> maco2: and the same issue on dolphin
[18:02] <v0lksman> Dr_Willis, yeah I assume this is a weird issue not experienced by many...I've never had it happen before and I've done that same thing many times...
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> v0lksman:  perhaps go to the console and back..  might kick it in the head
[18:02] <sebsebseb> insider: Security matters!
[18:02] <v0lksman> Dr_Willis, will try...thx
[18:02] <sebsebseb> insider: so you should upgrade Ubuntu to at least 9.04 as I said before
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> v0lksman:  or go to the screensaver settings and 'test' out a few of them. :)
[18:02] <maco2> sebsebseb: he's the kde developer who said that if canonical didnt have a kde person hacking away yet, he's available, and thus started kubuntu
[18:02] <insider> sebsebseb: i'll wait for 10.10
[18:02] <sebsebseb> maco2: oh
[18:03] <IdleOne> Spamicles: lshw perhaps
[18:03] <insider> people say it would be awsome
[18:03] <willz> how to remove all the sucky programs that came with kubuntu-desktop?
[18:03] <maco2> sebsebseb: "why didnt apple give patches back to us instead of forking?" is a common complaint among kde devs ;-) i think the answer is "because apple is a bad open source citizen"
[18:03] <sebsebseb> insider: by the time 10.10 comes out, something rather malicious might have happended to your 8.10 install,  security updates are there for a reason
[18:03] <Q-Tipped> iflema i have no idea why it's not being detected, the HDD's obviously still working because it pulls an error on booting.
[18:03] <tomatto_> nmvictor:  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[18:03] <insider> sebsebseb: ha, don't mind
[18:04] <jagosix> AGAIN ... does anyone here know how to cancel print jobs
[18:04] <insider> sebsebseb: i will use firewall
[18:04] <tomatto_> maco2: what do you mean by that?
[18:04] <iflema> Q-Tipped try      sudo fdisk /dev/hdb     or   sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[18:04] <sebsebseb> insider: Firewall does not protect you against security bugs in the OS
[18:04] <jagosix> i'm wasting paper
[18:04] <jagosix> and toner
[18:04] <Spamicles> IdleOne, width:64 bits of logical:cpu0 and logialcpu:1 ?
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> jagosix:  'lpq' command, of the gnome print manager tool. or the cups web interface. http://localhost:631
[18:04] <Slart> jagosix: there is a printer-queue-thingy that shows up in the task tray when you print
[18:04] <Spamicles> IdleOne, so im guessing 64? =]
[18:04] <aeon-ltd> jagosix: kill cups?
[18:04] <maco2> jagosix: there should be a little printer show up in your tray when printing is happening. can cancel it there
[18:04] <IdleOne> Spamicles: yup
[18:04] <insider> sebsebseb: but it can block any ip or not?
[18:04] <maco2> jagosix: should also be a button on your printer to cancel
[18:04] <sebsebseb> maco2: indeed they basically took  a load of open source, put lip stick on it, and sold to the general public,  :D
[18:05] <maco2> jagosix: and if you're really stuck, you can unplug the printer :P
[18:05] <Slart> jagosix: but if the job is already sent to the printer that won't do much.. you'll have to go over to the printer and cancel the job there.
[18:05] <insider> any range of port i want
[18:05] <nmvictor> tomatto_: well you had better found you driver through google or ask in this channel, the rest of the setting might work though, are you using lucid lynx?
[18:05] <maco2> tomatto_: what do i mean by what?
[18:05] <Spamicles> IdleOne, ive been away from linux for awhile. does wine do any better with emulation, or are there any open source programs like vmware?
[18:05] <Q-Tipped> iflema still not working.
[18:05] <Pici> jagosix: Depends how you printed it.  If you used lp, use the 'cancel' command, it has its own manpage, check it out.
[18:05] <maco2> Spamicles: Wine Is Not an Emulator
[18:05] <tomatto_> nmvictor: yes, lucid lynx
[18:05] <oxyrosis> are there any programs that i can use to backup my bookmarks from firefox without actually opening firefox?
[18:05] <sebsebseb> insider: there is more to computer security, than open ports and such
[18:05] <IdleOne> !vm > Spamicles
[18:05] <tomatto_> maco2: maco2> tomatto_: thats rather odd for intel graphics
[18:05] <Spamicles> oh dear. thank you =]
[18:06] <jagosix> thanks fellas.. I'll give it a try
[18:06] <Slart> jagosix: this of course, is assuming you use regular ubuntu and printed using the regular gui tools.. otherwise it might not work
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> oxyrosis:  the bookmarks are in a single file I recall in teh .mozilla/XXXXXXXX directory. so youi could just backup that file
[18:06] <jagosix> well.. i just logged into the cups web interface
[18:06] <oxyrosis> sweet, thanks
[18:06] <sebsebseb> insider:  and you can have all your ports closed,  and still get a security issue, if your OS doesn't have all the security updates, and is Internet connected.
[18:06] <antivirtel> aeon-ltd there is no ./configure ... what is it? :O
[18:06] <Q-Tipped> iflema what now?
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> lpq has worked for me - with jobs printed from the gui.
[18:06] <iflema> Q-Tipped and you say sudo fdisk -l fails? I cant think... well all thats comming is gparted live-cd
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> lp, lprm, and a few other lpXXX tools :)
[18:07] <insider> sebsebseb: i agree with you but i preffer old stuff and i use two operating systems and do not have some credit card info on my hard drive)
[18:07] <Q-Tipped> iflema sudo fdisk -l doesn't fail, it just doesn't do anything.
[18:07] <aeon-ltd> antivirtel: is a command you should run in a terminal
[18:07] <ManDay> !fonts
[18:07] <maco2> tomatto_: intel has worked out of the box as long as ive used linux (4 years). has had 3D AIGLX to make Compiz go since 6.10. i can recall only one case where it didnt, and that was a bug where intel put a new chipset number under the same model name and a single line had to be added to the kernel to fix it
[18:07] <iflema> Q-Tipped with the sudo it fails?
[18:07] <sebsebseb> insider: well Debian Stable is rather old :)  also as I told you earlier 9.04 is very much so like 8.10 really
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> tomatto_:  i saw today where intel has released some updated intel drivers. :)
[18:07] <Q-Tipped> iflema sudo fdisk -l doesn't do anything, yeah
[18:07] <insider> 8.04 is still updatable?
[18:08] <Q-Tipped> iflema i don't need to do anything like sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda, do i?
[18:08] <sebsebseb> insider: ah yes 8.04  I kind of forgot about that one
[18:08] <sebsebseb> insider: yes 8.04,  that is still supported untill April next year
[18:08] <antivirtel> aeon-ltd... i compiled yet im my life, but: ~/apt-cacher-1.6.8$ ./configure bash: ./configure: No file or directory
[18:08] <abhi_nav> !8.04
[18:08] <maco2> tomatto_: so i find it quite odd for intel graphics to end up in low graphics mode. unless i suppose if you have a second graphics card installed but are trying to use the onboard and its getting confused...
[18:08] <insider> sebsebseb: maybe downgrade? )))
[18:08] <HexLaTor> !lucyd
[18:08] <nmvictor> tomatto_: lucid does not much require an xorg.conf unless its really needed like you case and my ibooks case
[18:08] <jolaren> My sound has stopped working and in the notification area it look like this "--" <- the soundbar that is.. ive tried to reload alsa without success, what can i do
[18:08] <abhi_nav> !lucid > HexLaTor
[18:08] <sebsebseb> insider: yes sounds good to me,  since you want to be using older stuff, and it will still be supported for quite a bit longer yet
[18:08] <HexLaTor> abhi_nav, lol
[18:08] <abhi_nav> :D
[18:08] <antivirtel> aeon-ltd I said it before, I thook this isnt a source code...
[18:09] <jolaren> anyone?
[18:09] <IdleOne> jolaren: sound is muted
[18:09] <nmvictor> how about google,
[18:09] <tomatto_> maco2: gnome runs in low-graphics mode.
[18:09] <jolaren> IdleOne: is it? how can I unmute it? I've tried hotkeys alt f8 without success
[18:09] <aeon-ltd> antivirtel: thook?
[18:09] <nmvictor> tomatto_: lucid does not much require an xorg.conf unless its really needed like you case and my ibooks case, how about google?
[18:09] <sebsebseb> insider: I was thinking upgrade, upgrade, and didn't think that actsually you can downgrade to 8.04, but you will have to clean install to do that.
[18:09] <Q-Tipped> iflema but yeah, either way 'sudo fdisk -l' doesn't do anything and 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' doesn't do anything. doesn't call back an error, it just doesn't do anything
[18:09] <sebsebseb> !downgrade | insider
[18:09] <maco2> tomatto_: yeah....sounds like a bug to me. that shouldnt happen with intel graphics
[18:09] <IdleOne> jolaren: click on the speaker icon and unmute
[18:09] <h00k> Jordan_U: click on the sound indicator and click the top unmute option
[18:10] <jolaren> IdleOne: Can't be done
[18:10] <h00k> Jordan_U: sorry.
[18:10] <antivirtel> aeon-ltd sry: thought
[18:10] <IdleOne> jolaren: why not?
[18:10] <jolaren> IdleOne: Only listings is About, remove panel etc
[18:10] <insider> oops need to make something like Microsoft
[18:10] <insider> with downgrading vista to xp)
[18:10] <IdleOne> jolaren: left click :)
[18:10] <sebsebseb> insider: I think even there people have to clean install?
[18:10] <IdleOne> !windows
[18:11] <finemann>  Hi, how can i make shortcuts for the (Alt+F2) run dialog box? Like ff for firefox ter for terminal etc
[18:11] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: no he was just saying something, he doesnt' want WIndows support
[18:11] <jolaren> IdleOne: I did, I can click sound preferences etc but there is no option to unmute
[18:11] <IdleOne> Ubuntu does not support downgrading and I believe there are no plans of ever supporting it
[18:11] <nmvictor> i have the same card though 940 replaced 950 in you case
[18:11] <nmvictor> timemachine3030: have the same card though 940 replaced 950 in you case
[18:11] <nmvictor> timemachine3030: sorry
[18:11] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: what IdleOne just put ^
[18:11] <IdleOne> jolaren: in the sound prefs make sure everything is set properly
[18:11] <timemachine3030> no worries.
[18:11] <jolaren> IdleOne: it is
[18:12] <v0lksman> opened my nvidia control panel and dimness restored!
[18:12] <nmvictor>  tomatto_ i have the same card though 940 replaced 950 in you case
[18:12] <Q-Tipped> so yeah, iflema, what'd you suggest?
[18:12] <insider> and when i'm upgrading isn't it like clean install?
[18:12] <jolaren> IdleOne: but I still believe your mute theory
[18:12] <sebsebseb> insider: no
[18:12] <IdleOne> !sound | jolaren follow the links they may have more info
[18:12] <sebsebseb> insider: it just updates what you have installed on the system
[18:12] <aeon-ltd> antivirtel: doesn't the deb just work
[18:12] <insider> i do not have update manager
[18:12] <insider> i have only synaptic with some specific repos
[18:14] <h00k> insider: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:14] <insider> 8.10
[18:14] <h00k> insider: and why are you running your IRC client as root?
[18:14] <insider> i'm always using root
[18:14] <h00k> insider: then you're probably not running Ubuntu.
[18:14] <sebsebseb> insider: Gnome 3 is coming,  Gnome 2 is on its way out.  if you do upgrade to 8.04 though,  when that runs out of support, you could upgrade directly to 10.04, and then run Gnome 2 for another year.  Since you want older stuff.
[18:14] <aeon-ltd> insider: just like chuck norris
[18:15] <sebsebseb> insider: also you shoudn't run a root account in Ubuntu
[18:15] <sebsebseb> h00k: hes on 8.10
[18:15] <sebsebseb> h00k: and doesn't care  much about security it seems
[18:15] <h00k> insider: If you are, install upgrade-manager and upgrade to a supported version.
[18:15] <sebsebseb> insider: downgrade not upgrade, above
[18:15] <insider> sebsebseb: i preffer KDE 3.5
[18:15] <sebsebseb> h00k: he wants older stuff, so will probably downgrade to 8.04 with a clean isntall
[18:15] <Pici> sebsebseb: You can't upgrade to 8.04 from 8.10.  And downgrades are not-supproted.
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Pici: indeed
[18:16] <Q-Tipped> right guys, i've got a big problem. earlier on i tried to install Ubuntu 9.04 from a live cd, and half way through there was a powercut. when the power came back, i tried to boot into windows and i got a message saying 'no bootable partition detected'. i imagine this is because the installer messed up, so i booted up the live cd and tried to run through the install again, only for it to fail because 'no root filesystem is defined', and
[18:16] <sebsebseb> Pici: see above :)
[18:16] <Pici> sebsebseb: roger that.
[18:16] <insider> h00k: ok i'll try
[18:16] <Q-Tipped> anyone know what i can do? :/
[18:16] <abhi_nav> but why older stuff?
[18:16] <h00k> insider: also, we don't support running as root.
[18:16] <sebsebseb> insider: ok you like KDE 3.5 well more good news then :)
[18:17] <sebsebseb> insider: 8.04 still has it in the repo :)   and theres also a project that is keeping it alive for later versions of Ubuntu and such
[18:17] <Q-Tipped> anyone?
[18:17] <iflema> Q-Tipped its not looking good.... Id try gparted. either on a current version (livecd) or gparted live
[18:17] <insider> h00k: and if i have 0 rights but my user name is insider that's more different?
[18:18] <Q-Tipped> iflema, can i use g-parted in 9.04?
[18:18] <sebsebseb> insider: anyway this is what you should do then it seems :)  downgrade with a clean install to 8.04 yep, run KDE 3.5,  and don't use root with Ubuntu :)
[18:18] <_fynn> hi.. is there a way to permantly change the default input method to something different from System (IBus (Intelligent Input Bus))?
[18:18] <bazhang> insider, did you need support help with upgrading to 9.04 or beyond? or just wish to chat; 8.10 is not supported any longer.
[18:18] <sebsebseb> !noroot | insider
[18:19] <Q-Tipped> ah, i'm running gparted now, iflema.
[18:19] <bazhang> insider, if it's just chat, then #ubuntu-offtopic is the channel for that
[18:19] <insider> sebsebseb: thanks
[18:19] <Q-Tipped> iflema, it's not detecting anything... >_>
[18:19] <insider> i need help about konqueror
[18:19] <bazhang> insider, that version is not supported
[18:19] <sebsebseb> insider: you can also  install KDE 4 into 8.04, but the version in repo is old one
[18:20] <insider> sebsebseb: no kde 4
[18:20] <sebsebseb> insider: ok well if you want to mix some KDE 3 and KDE 4 apps :D
[18:20] <sebsebseb> bazhang: already been through the 8.10 is no longer supported thing :)
[18:20] <insider> bazhang: konqueror 3.5.1 is not supported here?
[18:20] <Matt1> Do any of you know a good linux alternative to Itunes Genius playlists
[18:20] <sebsebseb> insider: no he meant 8.10
[18:20] <bazhang> sebsebseb, so its offtopic (not supported)
[18:21] <insider> don't matter my 8.10, let's imagine i have 10.10 with kde 3.5
[18:21]  * hotfloppy dont like kDE.. dont know whats the reason :P
 +antivirtel: doesn't the deb just work <-- how ??
[18:21] <sebsebseb> bazhang: actsaully supporting it in here would be yes, but first we told him to upgrade,  then after he told us he wanted older stuff,  the talk changed to going back to 8.04 with a clean install :)
[18:21] <h00k> insider: 10.10 isn't supported in this channel.
[18:21] <Gumby> lmao
[18:21] <insider> h00k: ok 9.10 or 8.04
[18:22] <bazhang> sebsebseb, feel free to take this to PM or #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:22] <insider> i mean konqueror file manager
[18:22] <Gumby> pssssst. try 1-.04
[18:22] <Gumby> 10.04
[18:22] <insider> sorry for 10.10
[18:22] <nomike_> hi
[18:22] <IdleOne> enough of this offtopic/not supported versions. This conversation is distracting from what #ubuntu and it's users are here for.
[18:23] <nomike> How do I find all symplinks pointing to e.g. "/tmp/testfile.txt"?
[18:23] <nomike> s/symplinks/symlinks/
[18:23] <sebsebseb> insider: anyway you know what to do now,  back to 8.04 with a clean install,  and the chat is starting to annoy other people in the channel.
[18:23] <insider> sebsebseb: i understand
[18:24] <Baelgrer> guys, i was just trying to recover data from a broke windows install using Testdisk, and now (when i try to install ubuntu) the gpartitioner doesn't detect anything.
[18:25] <Baelgrer> i'm using the Ubuntu Live CD version 9.04, what can anyone suggest I do?
[18:25] <insider> sebsebseb: thank's for assistance
[18:25] <Baelgrer> i think i must have messed up when i was using testdisk D:
[18:25] <sebsebseb> insider: your welcome
[18:25] <Baelgrer> could anyone help me out?
[18:25] <d7777777> The backspace key is too far...
[18:26] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: uhmm
[18:26] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: have you got the data from WIndows?
[18:26] <Baelgrer> sebsebseb no, i can't get into windows.
[18:26] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: right well don't install Ubuntu not yet
[18:26] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: you don't want the data on your hard disk to get over written by something
[18:26] <insider> sebsebseb: if i update to 9.04 would it use gnome?
[18:27] <bazhang> insider, yes
[18:27] <Baelgrer> sebsebseb i'm not overly bothered about the data, i just want to get an OS onto my PC now D:
[18:27] <hotfloppy> nomike: try "ls -l /tmp/testfile.txt"
[18:27] <d7777777> I want to map its functionality to another key, but I don't know which...
[18:27] <sebsebseb> insider: yes however there is a project that will give you KDE 3.5 even, unoffical though
[18:27] <Matt1> Does anyone know a good playlist alternative to Itunes Genius playlists?
[18:27] <bazhang> insider, if you are on gnome now. if not then no
[18:27] <insider> bazhang: can skip some versions and upgrade to 10?
[18:27] <Baelgrer> does anyone have any suggestions?
[18:27] <bazhang> insider, fresh install
[18:27] <sebsebseb> insider: no to upgrade to 10.04, you would have to go through 9.04 and 9.10 first
[18:27] <hotfloppy> nomike: on second thought, that might be not the correct answer.. sory..
[18:28] <sebsebseb> insider: unless you are on 8.04, then can directly upgrade, but your not
[18:28] <tarrant> nomike: it is pretty gheto but 'find ./ -type l -print | xargs ls -l {} | grep' will find all symlinks print what they link to and them filter by the file you want.
[18:28] <nomike> hotfloppy: thx anyway, I found another solution for my problem where I don't have to do such weird things as seaching for symlinks pointing to a file.... *g*
[18:29] <hotfloppy> nomike: care to share ?
[18:29] <nomike> tarrant: Well I will give it a try....
[18:29] <nomike> thx
[18:29] <nomike> by
[18:29] <kleopatra> some stupid question : Will there ever be a linux-version of the adobe design-suites ? Or whats the state of affairs ?
[18:29] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: are you ash____?
[18:29] <nomike> hotfloppy: normally yes. but I'm in a hurry and need to get to an appointment..
[18:29] <FabParma> Does Ubuntu or some application to rebuild/refresh the *applications menu tree links*? At the moment I missing many in my menu, to use them I need to launch via console or manually create link. It is so uncomfortable ;)
[18:29] <hotfloppy> nomike: thats okay.. :)
[18:30] <Baelgrer> Mark-I i may be. however, to avoid laughter i'm going to say no. >__>
[18:30] <nomike> cu
[18:30] <MaRk-I> lol ok
[18:30] <sebsebseb> insider: someone who is kind of famous in the Ubuntu channels, told me about three weeks ago, that he is still doing 8.04 with KDE 3.5.  So if its good enough for him still, it should be good enough for you :)
[18:30] <insider> sebsebseb: :)
[18:30] <Baelgrer> Mark-I  (i still have a sense of humour, even though i think this computer is now bricked, y'see)
[18:30] <IdleOne> FabParma: right click on Applications > Edit menus
[18:31] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: need a new HD eh
[18:31] <Baelgrer> Mark-I i don't think the HD's broke, because it's still responsive. when I  try to boot up it gives me the error 'no bootable partiton found'.
[18:32] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: right back to you
[18:32] <yessir_turan> guys, who sees an xml sort of error when accessing google docs using google cl?
[18:32] <MaRk-I> well fireup gparted and see if you can format it
[18:32] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: so you deleted Windows? and now no partition on the computer? no OS?
[18:32] <tyler_d1> trying to get 2 statics to work on ubuntu 10.04 through /etc/network/interfaces
[18:32] <Baelgrer> but, when i attempt to install Ubuntu i get an error that 'no root filesystem's defined', and I  can't define one because there is nothing to select.
[18:32] <insider> is there some disk clean up tools for ubuntu?
[18:32] <tyler_d1> only one or the other works... not both
[18:32] <Maletor> How do I use compiz to map my horizontal scroll to browser back and forward buttons?
[18:32] <sebsebseb> insider: bleachbit
[18:32] <Baelgrer> Mark-I  so yeah, I  think I''ve really messed up the partitions
[18:33] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: sudo apt-get install gparted
[18:33] <sebsebseb> insider: and maybe Ubuntu Tweak has something useful,  altough that isn't exactly supported in here
[18:33] <insider> sebsebseb: aha
[18:33] <Baelgrer> s'installed.
[18:33] <sebsebseb> insider: disk cleaning?  what do you want to clean?  its Ubuntu not WIndows
[18:33] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: So how about we stop offering "not exactly supported" apps in here
[18:33] <sebsebseb> insider: there isn't a need to disk defrag and what not
[18:33] <soreau> Maletor: That would be something you setup in the browser, if it supports that feature. Compiz cant just push buttons, however there is xdotool..
[18:34] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: gparted doesnt detect the hd?
[18:34] <Baelgrer> Mark-I when i run gparted, everything's greyed out, and refreshing devices brings nothing.
[18:34] <MaRk-I> or any partition at all?
[18:34] <insider> some disk cached files
[18:34] <Baelgrer> Mark-I none :/
[18:34] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: Ubuntu Tweak is popular, but  3rd party app I meant, and I haven't seen people give support for it in here  before or not that I remember anyway, hence what I put
[18:34] <MaRk-I> oops
[18:35] <rical> anyone using gtmess?
[18:35] <Baelgrer> mark-i so, what'd you think?
[18:35] <sebsebseb> insider: and yeah its not in the repo
[18:35] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: but while ago you said you could change the partitions to bootable... odd
[18:36] <Baelgrer> mark-i, yeah, i know. then i used testdisk and everything changed.
[18:36] <Baelgrer> mark-i, so i'm not quite sure what i did, but somehow i've messed it up >_>
[18:36] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: don't put Ubuntu on yet, get hold of your data first
[18:36] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: but you were supposed to use photorec
[18:36] <Baelgrer> sebsebseb i can't do anything >_>
[18:36] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: you can install testdisk from repo onto Live CD of Ubuntu, but that will be an older version, and they have their own CD
[18:37] <MaRk-I> to recover the files
[18:37] <patch-tag> on lucid, how do I run a task at startup? I created a file in /etc/rcS.d, linked it to a script in init.d.... doesn't work.
[18:37] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: testdisk also seems to only work with partitions that have actasully been deleted,  well last time I tried it and such anwyay
[18:37] <der> hallo
[18:37] <Baelgrer> mark-i followed the guide someone sent, it said about copying files using testdisk.
[18:37] <Lim0n> abhi_nav: the syntax is <first_key>other_key
[18:37] <patch-tag> also what is the big picture here? Is lucid using upstart or init? Where is the best documentation?
[18:38] <Baelgrer> mark-i not going to lie, i have no idea what's happened. all i know is that earlier on, i could change the partitions to bootable, primary, etc., and now after using testdisk they've disappeared.
[18:38] <abhi_nav> Lim0n, ok
[18:38] <Lim0n> e.g. <Alt>F1
[18:38] <Lim0n> :
[18:38] <Lim0n> :D
[18:38] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: have you rebooted the livecd after using testdisk?
[18:38] <iflema> Baelgrer yeah, lie you say. Its p.robably fried from what Q-Tipped said.
[18:39] <luist> when i start apache i get this warning: * Restarting web server apache2     [Tue Jul 06 17:36:46 2010] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts   is it something to worry aboiut?
[18:39] <Baelgrer> mark-i i have restarted the live cd, yeah.
[18:39] <Baelgrer> iflema fried? awh mannnn.
[18:40] <iflema> Baelgrer you want to tell us what really happened?
[18:40] <patch-tag> testing 123, is this being broadcast?
[18:40] <Pici> patch-tag: 10-4
[18:41] <lucas-arg> whats the major 100% gnu/linux distro?
[18:42] <Baelgrer> mark-i iflema that is what really happened D: i was trying to recover files from a broken windows install, someone suggested testdisk/photorec so i downloaded/installed that. after that, i booted up testdisk and followed the guide as closely as possible (the version had change, and so had its layout) so i had to guess a few things, i got to the same end as the guide, though. after that, it told me to restart for changes to take effect
[18:42] <bazhang> lucas-arg, gnewsense?
[18:42] <iflema> Baelgrer you are/where Q-Tipped
[18:42] <lucas-arg> bazhang: its a nice distro but it isnt as updated as ubuntu...
[18:43] <Baelgrer> mark-i iflema wouldn't boot and still gave the same error ('no bootable partition detected') and so i tried to install ubuntu 9.04 via the live cd, when GParted couldn't detect anything i thought 'WHOOPS' and rejoined this channel
[18:43] <Baelgrer> iflema not q-tipped, just ash____ from earlier.
[18:43] <bazhang> lucas-arg, they have a support channel on freenode; did you have an Ubuntu support issue?
[18:43] <lucas-arg> bazhang: sorry ill go to offtopic
[18:44] <andyzammy> hi everybody. I'm trying to install a LAMP server on 10.4, but MySQL isn't working. I get this error in webmin: "MySQL is not running on your system - database list could not be  retrieved" any help would be appreciated.
[18:44] <Baelgrer> so yeah, Mike-I/Iflema, any idea what i can do? :/
[18:45] <IdleOne> andyzammy: guessing you need to start mysql from that error.
[18:45] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: no sorry, stumped on that "no bootable partition detected"
[18:45] <ravma> how to instal google earth
[18:45] <IdleOne> !googleearth
[18:46] <abhi_nav> if i go to ctrl + alt + f1 , to login to admin because i need to install one aps. so how can i switch back again here while that instalation processin is going on there? withoug affecting it?
[18:46] <Baelgrer> Mark-I I'm going to reboot again, just double check it. I imagine all the partiton's have been deleted/messed up somehow, though.
[18:46] <andyzammy> IdleOne: i do - i've tried inputting the following command to no effect: "/etc/init.d/mysql start >/dev/null 2>&1 &"
[18:46] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: ctrl - alt - f7
[18:46] <Baelgrer> ... which would explain gparted being unable to find anything, and the HDD being unable to boot
[18:46] <andyzammy> i'm just not sure what i need to do to manage that though
[18:46] <ravma> its not working
[18:46] <ravma> its in .bin
[18:46] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, and it wll not affect that installation process you sure?
[18:47] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: it shouldn't
[18:47] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, you souldn't menas?
[18:47] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: but why do you need to go to TTY to install an app?
[18:47] <Baelgrer> mark-i, iflema i'll be back in around 10 minutes.
[18:47] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, because other to install ap i need to log off this standard account and go to admin account
[18:47] <Riotta> how to set a static local ip to one of my computers in lan cause everytime I turn on one of the machines they take first ip available and I haven't got advanced dhcp settings on my router?
[18:47] <iflema> Baelgrer under what name with what preoblem?
[18:48] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: ok so this user you are logged on does not have sudo privs?
[18:48] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, no
[18:48] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: no it should not affect the install
[18:48] <azeryu> hello
[18:48] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, ok thanks
[18:48] <ridin> ravma: check out this
[18:48] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne, tell them to su to privileged user next time
[18:48] <ridin> ravma: check out this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233309
[18:49] <andyzammy> can anybody help me troubleshoot mysql, which won't start please?
[18:49] <Pirate_Hunter> !hi | azeryu
[18:49] <Spamicles> just installed ubuntu and going to restart, getting a bunch of [1087.366121] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0 sector 466308 . should i just physcailly cycle the power now?
[18:50] <azeryu> i got ubuntu 10.04 with customize kernel which is not work when i try to compile a package, so someone here told me to download the lastest official kernel linux  2.6 and to compile with KBUILD=... and to compile
[18:50] <azeryu> but still got the error
[18:50] <azeryu> which is http://paste.ubuntu.com/459927/
[18:50] <azeryu> could anyone help plz ?
[18:50] <azeryu> thanks
[18:50] <rogergr> any sauerbraten player here?
[18:51] <h00k> !anyone | rogergr
[18:51] <FabParma> how to re-link/rebuild all applications in "sbin" etc to the Gnome "application menu"?
[18:52] <Mud> h00k : can I ask something :+ is it ok to ask something :+ ?
[18:52]  * Mud runs
[18:52] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, ctrl + alt + f8 works here
[18:52] <azeryu> i got ubuntu 10.04 with customize kernel which is not work when i try to compile a package, so someone here told me to download the lastest official kernel linux  2.6 and to compile with KBUILD=... and to compile
[18:52] <MaRk-I> azeryu: to compile a package you dont need a latest kernel
[18:52] <azeryu> but still got the error
[18:52] <andyzammy1> hi all, can anyone help me troubleshoot a mysql server which won't start please?
[18:52] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: :)
[18:52] <azeryu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/459927/
[18:53] <Mud> andyzammy1 : look in /var/log/mysql
[18:53] <azeryu> not really i got customize one that's why i use a latest one
[18:53] <azeryu> but still not working
[18:53] <andyzammy1> Mud: should i pastebin it?
[18:53] <aeon-ltd> andyzammy1: you mean mysql doesn't start?, check if the daemon loads at boot
[18:53] <Mud> why not andyzammy1 ;)
[18:53] <h00k> azeryu: we don't support custom kernels in #ubuntu
[18:54] <h00k> !kernelcompile > azeryu
[18:54] <azeryu> i don't ask u to support custom kernel
[18:54] <azeryu> i try to compile with official kernle
[18:54] <azeryu> i try to compile with official kernl using
[18:55] <azeryu>  KBUILD=...
[18:55] <Roasted> hmm, installation issue - trying to install gnome-do via software center. I get this error: The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[18:55] <andyzammy1> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/n8iGuMx8
[18:55] <bazhang> azeryu, kernel from where
[18:55] <azeryu>  KBUILD=... see : http://paste.ubuntu.com/459927/
[18:55] <azeryu> from host
[18:55] <bazhang> azeryu, where? got a url?
[18:55] <andyzammy1> aeon-ltd: i'm using webmin to view and it informs me that it's not running. issuing the command to start it up doesn't work
[18:55] <MaRk-I> azeryu: read the message ubottu sent you
[18:55] <nyu> so, i recently swapped out mobos and now my microphone doesnt work.  do i need to update sound drivers or something?
[18:56] <h00k> azeryu: that error says you need whatever source for the kernel you're using.
[18:56] <Mud> row 25 is odd andyzammy1
[18:56] <Roasted> do I have to add the medibuntu repo?
[18:56] <Mud> is it a fresh install andyzammy1?
[18:56] <Slart> nyu: on board sound card? or an internal/external sound card.. like a soundblaster?
[18:56] <bazhang> Roasted, to accomplish what
[18:56] <nyu> on board
[18:56] <LucidGuy> Samba simple question.  I have a directory/share defined in smb.conf and that directory has multiple subfolders within subfolders.  The root/parent directory has very specific ACL settings and when a user creates a folder via a windows machine the ACL settings do not get inherited?  I have inherit acls = yes set within smb.conf.  Any suggestions?
[18:56] <Roasted> hmm, installation issue - trying to install gnome-do via software center. I get this error: The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[18:56] <Roasted> bazhang, ^
[18:56] <rogergr> how can i save only  the names of .avi when i delete the them? I want to delete only the content.  I want more speed for my ubuntu I am greedy http://pastebin.org/384598
[18:57] <azeryu> whatever source ? h00k
[18:57] <aeon-ltd> Roasted: you need the gpg keys
[18:57] <bazhang> Roasted, its in universe repo
[18:57] <Slart> nyu: then it might not be supported at the moment.. you could try searching the ubuntu forums for your motherboard model to see if anyone else had the same problem
[18:57] <h00k> azeryu: the error message tells you what ie needs.
[18:57] <h00k> *it
[18:58] <Roasted> aeon-ltd, I didnt need the gpg keys when I installed ffmpeg earlier on my desktop at home, unless it did it automatically.
[18:58] <nyu> slart: sound works great, just no mic
[18:58] <soreau> valentinex: You dont need to remove compiz, just disable effects
[18:58] <clowner> Can someone please recommend me a good program to work with PHP files? I tried Bluefish editor but I find it very limiting.
[18:58] <Roasted> bazhang, pardon?
[18:58] <Roasted> bazhang, should I install medibuntu?
[18:58] <andyzammy1> aeon-ltd: i get a command not found. but the command that webmin tells me to use is: "/etc/init.d/mysql start >/dev/null 2>&1 &"
[18:58] <aeon-ltd> Roasted: different ver of ubuntu?
[18:58] <valentinex> soreau: i disabled still i am not satisfy and still some effects are there
[18:58] <bazhang> Roasted, for gnome-do? no need for that
[18:58] <tomasz> hello
[18:58] <Roasted> aeon-ltd, nope. 10.04 on both.
[18:58] <Roasted> bazhang, hmm, then why is this gizmob ombing out
[18:58] <tomasz> somebody install dri2proto ?
[18:58] <aeon-ltd> andyzammy1: and that command does nothing as well?
[18:58] <azeryu> are  you used to use KBUILD= ... ? h00k
[18:58] <Slart> nyu: it's quite possible that playing sound works and that recording sound doesn't
[18:58] <Roasted> aeon-ltd, both are 64 bit as well. pretty sure I used the same iso on the same usb drive.
[18:58] <jbroome> clowner: nano
[18:59] <soreau> valentinex: If its already disabled, then compiz isnt running and thus isnt producing any effects you see
[18:59] <Mud> andyzammy1: why its saying : InnoDB: The first specified data file ./ibdata1 did not exist: : :? really really odd :P
[18:59] <tomasz> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/proto/dri2proto-2.3.tar.gz
[18:59] <Thorn_> Hello. Wubi does not show "Install Inside Windows" button at all on any of my machines (Tested Win7 and XP)
[18:59] <tomasz> how install this ??
[18:59] <soreau> valentinex: So, removing compiz wont do anything to speed anything up
[18:59] <clowner> I'm looking for an IDE
[18:59] <h00k> azeryu: It tells you exactly what you need, You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.32-gandi-2839 kernel installed.
[18:59] <Slart> nyu: there are some settings you can try modifying.. but searching the forums might be a good first step
[18:59] <abhi_nav> clowner, which ide?
[18:59] <bihari> i have problem
[18:59] <andyzammy1> aeon-ltd: it says "Done" but rechecking webmin it says its still not running :S
[19:00] <bihari> on ubuntu i canot do cam to cam chat  on yahoo
[19:00] <bihari> can any one help
[19:00] <Mud> andyzammy1: look in the logfiles again
[19:00] <andresj> so i'm listening/watching a stream (univision futbol) on mplayer. it randomly changes volume. is there a way to normalize this in real time?
[19:00] <clowner> abhi_nav: I'm looking for an IDE to work with PHP systems. I tried Bluefish but I find it limiting
[19:00] <tomasz> hallo !
[19:00] <abhi_nav> clowner, search in ubuntu software cneter
[19:00] <tomasz> i have easy problem
[19:00] <andyzammy1> Mud: i'm not sure why that is.. i'm a noob with this.. i was reading a guide a friend wrote, but its outdated (for 8.04)
[19:00] <bihari> can any one help me
[19:00] <clowner> I did, I was just wondering if anyone had any good suggestions
[19:00] <Kyle__> How does one go about installing the 32-bit version of a program using apt-get?
[19:00] <shadyabhi> bihari: state the problem
[19:01] <aeon-ltd> brb
[19:01] <abhi_nav> 'easy' "problem'?
[19:01] <abhi_nav> lol
[19:01] <Kyle__> Kyle__: Assuming you're on a 64bit install.
[19:01] <chalcedony> i'm running ubuntu 9.04 on a pc. last night it surprised me by opening a bunch of 'screenprint' windows, which i hadn't told it to do. the computer got slower and slower, i tried to open a terminal and stop proceses, but it didn't work, the clock eventually stopped. i shut it off and restarted. then it didn't have any network connection. i've added 2 network cards.. still no connection, and spent time looking at eth0 eth1 eth2 eth3. today: sudo
[19:01] <chalcedony> /etc/init.d/networking start - got it to see the ip for google... but when i started firefox it didn't see it, not even the ip i had pinged. and ping no longer worked.
[19:01] <chalcedony> I'm not sure what to do now?
[19:01] <tomasz> how install and compile something
[19:01] <FloodBot4> chalcedony: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:01] <tomasz> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/proto/dri2proto-2.3.tar.gz
[19:01] <bihari> well i want some clint that can work properly as i canot do cam to cam chat on yahoo
[19:01] <h00k> !compile | tomasz
[19:01] <h00k> !packages > tomasz
[19:02] <Roasted> bazhang, fixed it.
[19:02] <Roasted> bazhang, gotta love serach function of ubuntu forums. :P
[19:02] <Roasted> bazhang, System - Admin - Software Sources - Unchecked "software restricted by copyright or legal issues". reloaded, ran software center again, worked fine.
[19:02] <bazhang> Roasted, care to tell how?
[19:02] <bihari> ?
[19:02] <bihari> plz reply?
[19:02] <tomasz> ubottu how easy instal from tar.gz ?
[19:02] <jagosix> i've installed 10.04 LTS for ppc works great , but... the youtube video playback via web browser is a pain
[19:02] <bazhang> Roasted, nicely done :)
[19:02] <Roasted> bazhang, can't say I ever heard of THAT function before. But if yo ucheck out software sources in 10.04, on the main tab it's an option there.
[19:02] <andyzammy1> Mud: new pastebin: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/eQ8hR5wv
[19:02] <Roasted> bazhang, no idea how I unchecked it in my desktop and not laptop. But, whatever. :P
[19:03] <bihari> can any one help me
[19:03] <Mud> andyzammy1: what have you done? since 8.10 ? before you got this error
[19:03] <IdleOne> bihari: patience
[19:03] <arvind_khadri> bihari, gyachi
[19:03] <bihari> gyachi is old
[19:03] <h00k> tomasz: Please read the factoids from Ubuntu, it will tell you what you need to know
[19:03] <Roasted> bazhang, that begs the obvious question - how does gnome-do ffall under the restricted copywritten category?
[19:03] <bihari> it does not support it
[19:03] <bihari> i have tryed
[19:03] <arvind_khadri> bihari, it does support cam
[19:03] <bazhang> !enter | bihari
[19:04] <abhi_nav> bihari, whats issue?
[19:04] <arvind_khadri> bihari, you can also try kopete, which also supports cam.
[19:04] <bihari> kopete support cam?
[19:04] <HydroUK> hi
[19:05] <HydroUK> having real issues with networking (disable ip46 to no avail)
[19:05] <HydroUK> everything is slow cant fetch a file from apache @ over 1.4MBps
[19:05] <MaRk-I> bihari: to get the latest gyachi you have to compile from source and install about 60 dependencies if you're familiar with that I can paste you the instructions
[19:05] <borwar> Will it work to burn the ISO onto a DVD instead of a CD?
[19:06] <davidscale> emesene and amsn support webcam
[19:06] <bazhang> borwar, sure
[19:06] <andyzammy1> Mud: I'm not really sure. Nothing really comes to mind. what are you looking for specifically?
[19:06] <Kyle__> On a 64bit install, how do you install the 32bit version of a program?
[19:06] <IdleOne> borwar: sure it wastes a dvd but yes you can
[19:06] <Ash> mark-i, i disconnected, did you get my message?
[19:06] <bihari> well i am not familiar with that but i will try
[19:06] <bazhang> borwar, or usb flash stick if your computer supports boot from usb
[19:06] <MaRk-I> Ash: only that you were goint to reboot the live cd
[19:06] <HydroUK> <-- running lucid lynx
[19:06] <bihari> MaRK-i give me
[19:06] <Belgarath> hi anybody has the problem with mysql-server on ubuntu lucid server?
[19:07] <Belgarath> I cannot force it to accept connections over tcp/ip
[19:07] <MaRk-I> bihari: you have compiled before?
[19:07] <borwar> bazhang: It says on ubunto.com that the stick must have at least 2 gb. I only got 1gb usb stick.
[19:07] <Ash> mark-i, ah, right. well, there's a different message now, it says 'DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISC'. Don't know if that changes anything, though.
[19:07] <bihari> nops
[19:07] <bihari> but i will try
[19:07] <HydroUK> any body? i see my question disappearing :( ;)
[19:08] <Kyle__> borwar: You may be able to try one of the alternate images, if you've got a really small flash drive like that.
[19:08] <MaRk-I> Ash:  hhmm no idea think the hd is borked
[19:08] <Ash> mark-i yeah, i guessed it probably would be. oh well :/
[19:08] <IdleOne> HydroUK: repost your question ( 10 minutes or so) in one post so it is easier to follow
[19:08] <borwar> Kyle__: Where can I find alternate images?
[19:08] <HydroUK> eek ok just noticed that in topic tbh sorry
[19:09] <IdleOne> HydroUK: no worries
[19:09] <Kyle__> borwar: On the ubuntu site.  They have the standard images, and the alternate images.
[19:09] <bihari> what hapen
[19:09] <bihari> are you going to give me or not
[19:09] <borwar> Kyle__: Like netbook edition?
[19:09] <Kyle__> borwar: Yea, netbook, but also low memory, text only, LVM.  There are _lots_ of alternate images.
[19:10] <Thorn_> Hello. Wubi does not show "Install Inside Windows" button at all on any of my machines (Tested Win7 and XP). Googled around to no avail. The middle button and its related description simply does not appear in the application.
[19:10] <bihari> mark-i give me
[19:11] <Njh> does anyone know how to fix "gpg-agent is not available in this session"?
[19:11] <rhl> Hi, what is the name of the standard chat software that ships with ubuntu?
[19:11] <nyu> slart: im seeing other people having issues with the onboard sound on this board, must not be supported.  guess ill get a pci card
[19:11] <h00k> !info Empathy | rhl
[19:11] <bihari> are koi to help karoo
[19:11] <h00k> !info empathy | rhl
[19:11] <rhl> thanks guys :)
[19:12] <bazhang> rhl, you may wish to install irssi or xchat
[19:12] <Slart> nyu: sometimes that's the easiest way out.. if you're just looking for something simple most of the cheap usb audio cards work out of the box
[19:12] <rhl> has xchat
[19:12] <rhl> want to start empathy in fluxbox
[19:12] <Kyle__> borwar: Ya know what, I'm reading those instructions, and I say just try it with the image you have, and your 1-gig stick.  The worst that can happen is you need to reformat the stick!
[19:12] <nyu> eh, i got a box full of pci cards somewhere
[19:13] <nyu> i just hate shutting down, heh
[19:13] <Slart> nyu: ok, nevermind the usb thing then.. go with what you've got
[19:13] <Kyle__> So, anyone know how to install 32bit software on the 64bit 'buntu?
[19:13] <sanguisdex> is there a good program for diffing remote files localy?
[19:13] <sanguisdex> with like a commader interface
[19:14] <Kyle__> sanguisdex: Umm, you mean like diff?
[19:14] <Pirate_Hunter> sanguisdex, you mean scp, rsync etc
[19:14] <tarvid> Neither "Display" nor "Screen resolution" appears in my System - Preferences Menu
[19:14] <tarvid> Lucid
[19:14] <sanguisdex> I should have said merging
[19:14] <Slart> tarvid: I think it's called "Monitors" in lucid
[19:14] <sanguisdex> I will talk to jammie to see what I can do
[19:15] <Kyle__> sanguisdex: If you have the kde compontents installed, maybe Kompare.  Look at the screenshots on wikipedia.  It's pretty damn slick. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kompare
[19:15] <tarvid> Slart, Thanks that works
[19:15] <sanguisdex> Kyle__: thanks trying to avoid laong k libs on my machine
[19:16] <janisozaur> in svn I can "svn log -r BASE:HEAD", it shows the commit logs between what I have locally and what server has. how can I achieve the same in bzr?
[19:16] <Kyle__> sanguisdex: I know, but if you really need a good diff/merge tool, kompare is awesome.  Generally I use the one built into netbeans, but it's not as nice.
[19:17] <dm_> Anyone else have an issue with the volume not correctly being adjusted (via keyboard or the sound applet)
[19:18] <heathen> Just booted up my first 'buntu box, an Ion Breeze, from Zotac. Anybody familiar with this thing?
[19:18] <trojan_spike> yea
[19:18] <Kyle__> heathen: Is that the distro or the hardware?  Either way, never heard of it.
[19:19] <heathen> Zotac makes the Ion Breeze which comes prepped w/ubuntu 10.04
[19:19] <LorgonJortle> Hello
[19:19] <LJRuff> !hi | LorgonJortle
[19:19] <Kyle__> heathen: Ah.  Very nice.
[19:20] <LJRuff> gmail makes me laugh. My e-mail is full of Linux newsletters, subscriptions, mailing lists - yet the ads are always Microsoft ads.
[19:20] <LorgonJortle> Should I be using x64 Ubuntu if my CPU supports it?
[19:20] <HydroUK> hi, having real issues with networking (disabled ipv6 to no avail), everything is slow, can't fetch a file from apache/ssh/ftp @ over 1.4MBps, this is with Lucid Lynx
[19:20] <LJRuff> LorgonJortle, no
[19:20] <bihari> can any one help me plz
[19:20] <Slart> LorgonJortle: sure, give it a try
[19:20] <LJRuff> !ask | bihari
[19:20] <trojan_spike> bihari :: what the problem??
[19:20] <chalcedony>  http://www.pastebin.org/384609 i'm on this laptop with vista
[19:20] <LJRuff> LorgonJortle, do you have a 64 bit processor?
[19:20] <bihari> man but i dont get the answer of my question
[19:20] <LorgonJortle> LJRuff: Why shouldn't I be? If I have 6GB of RAM, am I going to be using all of it?
[19:20] <bihari> i need new gaychi
[19:20] <LorgonJortle> LJRuff: Yeah, I do.
[19:21] <bihari> so that i can compile to work for yahoo clints
[19:21] <trojan_spike> ?? whats that
[19:21] <Slart> LorgonJortle: the only thing that is problematic these days is flash.. since adobe temporarily removed the 64bit flash plugin (for security reasons), you can still run the 32bit plugin with ndiswrapper though
[19:21] <LorgonJortle> But last time I installed x64 Ubuntu (like 8.04) I had several problems.
[19:21] <LJRuff> LorgonJortle, *if* you have a 64 bit processor then sure - go for it. If you have an x_86 arch and tons of ram you're just lookin' to spend then no.
[19:21] <Kyle__> LorgonJortle: That's a big Q ya know.  Do you have more than 4GB of ram?  Do you know if you need anything that's 32bit only?
[19:21] <trojan_spike> no idea
 plz give me
[19:21] <HydroUK> no ideas?
[19:21] <bihari> i will compile it
[19:22] <bean> bihari, you're not making any sense.
[19:22] <chalcedony> is there someplace or someone to talk to for help with my network connection?  http://www.pastebin.org/384609
[19:22] <LJRuff> LorgonJortle, I'd *really* err on the side of x_86 and not the 64 bit unless you're just dead set on it.
[19:22] <LorgonJortle> I don't think there's anything I need that's only 32bits.
[19:22] <LorgonJortle> I do have a x64 processor, LJRuff. haha
[19:22] <Kyle__> Longhorn: _most_ 32bit stuff works fine on the 64bit install, but not all of it.  Then again, some virtualization systems work better if the host is 64bit.  If this is a desktop, and you're not sure, I'd go for 32bit.
[19:22] <LorgonJortle> Intel Core 2 Quad
[19:22] <Kyle__> LorgonJortle: oops, not Longhorn...
[19:23] <chalcedony> LorgonJortle, use the 64 bit - if you hate it change
[19:23] <LJRuff> LorgonJortle, kyle_ and I have both told you our thoughts. = / It's your call.
[19:23] <Longhorn> :P
[19:23] <LJRuff> !sorry | Longhorn
[19:23] <bihari> whats is you sens
[19:24] <LorgonJortle> One reason I consider x64 is that I have a x64 Win7 guest (VMWare), and I'd like to be able to give it more than 2GB of RAM.
[19:24] <Kyle__> LorgonJortle: Remember, if you have more than 4GB, you can still use it in a 32bit box, it just won't be as efficient.  With 4 cores though, you probably won't notice, unless you're really _really_ pushing the box.
[19:24]  * HydroUK is not a happy bunny, someone must have an idea as to what is involved hehe
[19:24]  * HydroUK begs on his knees :)
[19:24] <Slart> HydroUK: tried using some other dns services? google dns perhaps?
[19:24] <pahalial> Is anyone particularly experienced with truecrypt full-drive encryption? I'm looking to get a USB boot disk (with bootloader and /boot partition) to launch a wubi-style encrypted root disk.
[19:25] <HydroUK> Slart, dns isnt the issue here
[19:25] <HydroUK> ssh doesnt use dns
[19:25] <HydroUK> im using ip's only
[19:25] <MaRk-I> bihari: I'm goint to paste you how to do it, you have to download the file yourself and compile it, I'm not goint to help you with that ok?
[19:25] <Slart> HydroUK: or.. wait.. regular transfers aren't slow? once they've started?
[19:25] <Kyle__> LorgonJortle: Check the virtualbox documentation.  You _may_ be able to run a 64bit guest with more than 2gb of ram on a 32bit host.  I'm not sure.
[19:25] <HydroUK> yup
[19:25] <Slart> HydroUK: oh.. sorry. didn't read all the info..
[19:25] <HydroUK> if they start around 3MB they quickly level out at 1.4MB
[19:25] <LorgonJortle> Kyle__: I can, but it doesn't end well.
[19:25]  * abhi_nav gives extra luck for HydroUK
[19:26] <HydroUK> naa its cool glad to have an answer, i know how things are here, loads of questions hehehe
[19:26] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[19:26] <LJRuff> !hi | wildc4rd
[19:26] <Slart> HydroUK: what is this.. a internet connection ? or internal LAN?
[19:26] <Kyle__> LorgonJortle: OK, then it's kindof decided for you.
[19:26] <LorgonJortle> Howdy, wildc4rd.
[19:26] <zemeus> Hello everyone
[19:26] <HydroUK> 100Mbps full duplex, internet 20Mbps/2Mbps
[19:26] <LJRuff> !hi | zemeus
[19:27] <zemeus> Does anyone know of any good terminal tutorials?
[19:27] <Slart> HydroUK: and regular web surfing is slow.. and ssh is slow? just to connect or it's slow all the time?
[19:27] <abhi_nav> !cli
[19:27] <zemeus> I am new to linux
[19:27] <abhi_nav> zemeus, ^^
[19:27] <HydroUK> ssh as console is fine but any file transfer is slow
[19:27] <trojan_spike> youtube for terminal tutorials
[19:27] <HydroUK> dns response is fast
[19:27] <abhi_nav> !manual > zemeus
[19:27] <zemeus> ok thank you guys
[19:28] <CbIP> Hi all! Can someone help? I've installed ComixCursors 0.7, enabled them into appearance menu, but they work only in some windows (e.g. help) and don't work at my desctop, in Opera, etc. How to fix it?
[19:28] <LorgonJortle> Why does it say on the Ubuntu diwnload page that x64 isn't recommended for daily use?
[19:28] <LJRuff> zemeus, http://linuxcommand.org/
[19:28] <zemeus> i know the basics, like cd man ls less etc. just new to linux.
[19:28] <Slart> LorgonJortle: noone knows.. noone here, at least.. it's reported in the bug database
[19:28] <LJRuff> zemeus, read *all* of that and practice every command as it illustrates and you'll be a pro in no time.
[19:29] <MaRk-I> bihari: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/bNuSNYTS   <<< open an empti text file and copy the instructions
[19:29] <MaRk-I> empty**
[19:29] <zemeus> I def like the community much better, there is no community in windows
[19:29] <LJRuff> zemeus, #windows? They're pretty active.
[19:30] <h00k> zemeus: you're also welcome to #ubuntu-beginners
[19:30] <HydroUK> Slart, any other ideas matey?
[19:30] <HydroUK> im baffled, windows on the same network lead/socket is fine
[19:30] <LJRuff> If they seem quite it's because there's only one fix to correct any issues you might be having in Windows -> format c. Any issue(s) you might be experiencing will stop in a few minutes.
[19:32] <Slart> HydroUK: not really.. only reason I can think of is that auto-negotiation problems or stuff like that.. I'm kind of googling around. . but I haven't found anything useful so far
[19:32] <CbIP> Can someone help? I've installed ComixCursors 0.7, enabled them into appearance menu, but they work only in some windows (e.g. help window) and don't work at my desctop, Opera, etc. How to fix it?
[19:32] <MaRk-I> bihari: do you have gyachi installed?
[19:33] <HydroUK> Slart, yea my first thought, ethtool reports full duplex 100 link
[19:34] <HydroUK> i think im gonna back pedal onto karmic and see if the issue is there, its a recent install so no real loss
[19:34] <HydroUK> although i like the new colour scheme ;)
[19:34] <HydroUK> purple rocks!
[19:34] <timemachine3030> how can I check my global DNS configurations on Ubuntu 10.04?
[19:35] <wrinkliez> anyone know of a good program to compile a linux executable for ruby scripts?
[19:35] <HydroUK> Slart, cheers for the ideas mate, hopefully all will be well ;)
[19:36] <Slart> HydroUK: hmm.. then I'm out of ideas.. sorry
[19:36] <Slart> HydroUK: you're welcome
[19:36] <sdfsdf> hello everyone
[19:36] <sdfsdf> i need help with my mic
[19:37] <sdfsdf> i have alsa, volume control synaptics
[19:37] <sdfsdf> mic works but cant record
[19:37] <sdfsdf> lspci ftl
[19:37] <sdfsdf> someone please help
[19:37] <sdfsdf> 3 months now
[19:37] <thune3> timemachine3030: /etc/resolv.conf holds current DNS configuration
[19:37] <sdfsdf> i cant rap great
[19:37] <sdfsdf> but pleas esome
[19:37] <FloodBot4> sdfsdf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <HydroUK> sdfsdf, might wanna keep that to one line LOL
[19:37] <h00k> !enter | sdfsdf
[19:37] <bazhang> sdfsdf, dont use the enter key after two words
[19:38] <sdfsdf> ...
[19:38] <sdfsdf> i type fast
[19:38] <sdfsdf> more than two words.
[19:38] <bazhang> sdfsdf, you'll get zero support that way
[19:38]  * HydroUK chuckles to himself
[19:38] <sdfsdf> someone say they will help
[19:38] <rical> anyone using or has used gtmess?
[19:38] <sdfsdf> any i might have more than zero
[19:38] <sdfsdf> ubuntu 9.10 all sound drivers mic works on xp
[19:38] <bazhang> sdfsdf, please keep it all on ONE line
[19:38] <sdfsdf> ubuntu is a shame
[19:38] <timemachine3030> thune3, thanks.
[19:39] <zemeus> i like it
[19:39] <sdfsdf> can someone help and since i have to type a paragraph before anyone answers i would reatly appreicete teh knowledge of the cool people here
[19:39] <sdfsdf> please help me
[19:39] <sdfsdf> i can make fps or thirdperson games
[19:40] <sdfsdf> i really need my mic working
[19:40] <drew212> sdfsdf: thats you're opinion and you're entitled to it, but ubuntu is an ideology
[19:40] <sdfsdf> followed every tutorial sorry about the enter button
[19:40] <sdfsdf> i want it
[19:40] <sdfsdf> it pwns
[19:40] <sdfsdf> im not really a chattin dude, can someone help me
[19:40] <sdfsdf> ive tried everything
[19:41] <sdfsdf> im not kidding
[19:41] <zemeus> what kind of mic do you have?
[19:41] <sdfsdf> i mean i have grub menu and have to choose the third one for my sound to even work, mic works but no capture
[19:41] <sdfsdf> and its turned all the way up
[19:41] <Pici> !enter
[19:41] <sdfsdf> a mic that works on xp
[19:41] <Pici> !patience
[19:42] <zemeus> That is helpful
[19:42] <sdfsdf> i havent asked a question
[19:42] <sdfsdf> i mean i like inklink ftw
[19:42] <zemeus> Then why don't you use xp?
[19:42] <sdfsdf> i just want some help from a ubuntu forum like thing
[19:42] <sdfsdf> and none of them work, so for short how teh mic work
[19:43] <zemeus> google usually helps me if I have a problem/// I would suggest that
[19:43] <Slasher`> !google
[19:43] <sdfsdf> i got all alsa volume control soundrecorder pulse drivers opengl x5 and other junk
[19:43] <bazhang> !sound | sdfsdf
[19:43] <sdfsdf> audicity every plugin
[19:43] <sdfsdf> lspci ftl
[19:43] <zemeus> Ok, sry
[19:43] <sdfsdf> alsamixer ftl
[19:43] <Pici> sdfsdf: Stop pressing enter between every 3 words.
[19:43] <Slasher`> it's ok lol
[19:43] <zemeus> what is a fu?
[19:44] <LJRuff> Please stop feeding the troll.
[19:44] <sdfsdf> pills ar nad
[19:44] <sdfsdf> i cant even read
[19:44] <timemachine3030> thune3, i found the problem .. what do I need to restart after editing resolv.conf?
[19:44] <sdfsdf> just get me in a chattrom with someone who knows something about something'
[19:44] <sdfsdf> gotta type that b4 they get pissed
[19:44] <LJRuff> !troll | sdfsdf
[19:44] <sdfsdf> make sure that all the elephants and rhinos will see the sentence from 3 miles away guys
[19:45] <sdfsdf> they are pressuresmoothnesslike here
[19:45] <Gumby> sdfsdf: I know something about something.  I know lots about bikes.  Your quest for someone that knows something about something is over!!
[19:45] <janisozaur> in svn I can "svn log -r BASE:HEAD", it shows the commit logs between what I have locally and what server has. how can I achieve the same in bzr?
[19:45] <thune3> timemachine3030: those changes take effect immediately, but resolv.conf gets overwritten by networkmanager and dhclient, so your changes are temporary.
[19:45] <zemeus> Nevermind I just well, used my fu
[19:46] <timemachine3030> copy that, yeah the problem is fixed ... so networkmanager you say..
[19:46] <h00k> sdfsdf: Please read the !guidelines as I will link to you. You've been told about !enter more than twice now.
[19:46] <h00k> !guidelines > sdfsdf
[19:46] <Pici> janisozaur: Usually I use bzr diff, see bzr help diff   for lots of syntax
[19:46] <thune3> timemachine3030: are you trying to set fixed dns servers?
[19:46] <LJRuff> Thank you h00k
[19:47] <janisozaur> Pici: diff shows, well, diffs. I want commit logs and there's "log" for that, but I can't make it aware of server changes _before_ updating
[19:47] <timemachine3030> thune3, no. there were two nameservers in resolv.conf ... and one of them was bogus. I removed it and now my dns is working great.
[19:48] <h00k> sdfsdf: As said in !patience, if nobody knows, nobody will answer you.  Have a bit of patience as we're all volunteers. Ask your question again in 5-10 minutes, maybe there'll be a new set of eyes.
[19:48] <jm_> hello anyone know how to debug ndiswrapper invalid driver errors (i've done all the google stuff about files in the right directory, spaces in names etc.)
[19:48] <sdfsdf> spam
[19:48] <abhi_nav> !pm | bihari
[19:48] <chalcedony>  please -  http://www.pastebin.org/384609 can you help with my networking problem?
[19:48] <sdfsdf> bump
[19:48] <sdfsdf> okay
[19:48] <sdfsdf> sorry
[19:48] <sdfsdf> how many people have a mic here
[19:48] <sdfsdf> and run 9.10
[19:48] <FloodBot4> sdfsdf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:49] <abhi_nav> bihari, whats the matter?
[19:49] <bihari> jai bharat
[19:49] <bihari> muje apkaa message acha laga mera bharat mahan
[19:49] <chalcedony> sdfsdf, i have 9.04 and im not a good source - but i have a mic
[19:49] <sdfsdf> if i upgrade 10.04 will it fix
[19:49] <Phun5tar> I have a startup question
[19:49] <abhi_nav> bihari, thanks.
[19:49] <sdfsdf> whtats it phn
[19:49] <Pici> janisozaur: This question might be better fielded in #bzr then.
[19:49] <bihari> can i add you
[19:49] <bihari> i am newbi
[19:49] <Gumby> sdfsdf: you need to provide a bit of info, perhaps what sound card or mic you are using
[19:50] <bihari> and i need some people who can guide me
[19:50] <sdfsdf> shitty mic but it works on xp
[19:50] <Phun5tar> I can't recall what I did to cause my Firefox and trash can to open automatically each time I start my distro
[19:50] <Pici> sdfsdf: Please mind your language here.
[19:50] <Gumby> never heard of that brand before
[19:50] <Gumby> lol
[19:51] <Phun5tar> how do I change my startup script?
[19:51] <damienmannn> okay
[19:51] <damienmannn> hello
[19:52] <damienmannn> how is everyone
[19:52] <Thorn_> Hello. Wubi does not show "Install Inside Windows" button at all on any of my machines (Tested Win7 and XP). Googled around to no avail. The middle button and its related description simply does not appear in the application.
[19:52] <Thorn_> http://ader008.titandsl.co.uk/thorn/wubinowubi.jpg   vs     http://www.linoob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/wubi-1.PNG
[19:52] <damienmannn> am i spamming?
[19:52] <damienmannn> u need teh new rules
[19:52] <damienmannn> most sentences are like 5 words
[19:52] <damienmannn> want me to put periods?
[19:52] <Daekdroom> !ops
[19:52] <Phun5tar> anyone know how to help?
[19:52] <damienmannn> i need the lspci command please
[19:52] <pure_hate> damienmannn, yes are being really annoying
[19:52] <damienmannn> phun what u doin
[19:52] <damienmannn> im not
[19:52] <Gumby> wow, pathetic
[19:52] <damienmannn> im sorry
[19:53] <damienmannn> really high man
[19:53] <damienmannn> i just wanna reap
[19:53] <FloodBot4> damienmannn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:53] <Phun5tar> I have something strange in  my startup script
[19:53] <ikonia> ok - stop now
[19:53] <Phun5tar> dude, I'm high, too
[19:53] <zemeus> Is irc always like this?
[19:53] <Phun5tar> and I'm real chill...
[19:53] <Kyle__> zemeus: No, this is a pretty bad channel actually.
[19:53] <Daekdroom> zemeus, fortunately not
[19:53] <Gumby> Phun5tar: there are multiple startup script.  which one are you talking about?
[19:53] <damienmannn> chholoropins
[19:53] <IdleOne> Phun5tar: please stay on topic
[19:53] <damienmannn> 5 of em
[19:53] <ikonia> ok - all STOP now
[19:53] <Phun5tar> my desktop
[19:53] <Phun5tar> I was trying to calm someone else down
[19:53] <ikonia> check the topic of this channel with "/topic"
[19:54] <Phun5tar> and I hadn't seen anyone on my topic
[19:54] <ikonia> please stick to the topic of the channel
[19:54] <zemeus> ok, i haven't used irc since I was like 10... so I wasn't sure if there are always so many spammers
[19:54] <Gumby> Phun5tar: so when gnome loads you have something loading you dont want to load?
[19:54] <ikonia> zemeus: there normally aren't, if you stick to the topic, normal service will be resumue
[19:54] <Phun5tar> correct
[19:54] <flsdfklsdfhklsdf> Okay everyone
[19:54] <flsdfklsdfhklsdf> as nice as i can be
[19:55] <akiva> What is the minimum recommended HD space for UBuntu installs?
[19:55] <Phun5tar> firefox and my trash can
[19:55] <Gumby> Phun5tar: have a look at system-> preferences -> startup applications
[19:55] <ikthus> hi all
[19:55] <Roasted> akiva, for a core Ubuntu installation, I've done it with as little as 10 gig with plenty of extra. What's your goal?
[19:55] <MaRk-I> a +b might work on that guy
[19:55] <zemeus> on oracle it said the recommended was 8gb, not sure on a standalone
[19:55] <akiva> I am in a difficiult situation where I lost my last HD to power surge and now I have a Windows laptop that has a pretty full harddrive and I want to go back to Linux
[19:55] <akiva> I thought I read 20 gigs was recommended
[19:55] <akiva> But maybe I am wrong
[19:56] <Roasted> akiva, well it depends what you are doing. On my laptop, my root partition is only using 5gb, and I have quite a few applications installed.
[19:56] <Roasted> akiva, I have root/home separate, though, so my personal stuff is on my home partition. However, the actual OS + programs is on root, and root is 5gb in size.
[19:56] <Gumby> on a fairly fresh 10.04 amd64 I am at 3.5GB and up to date
[19:56] <Daekdroom> Back when I had 10GB for / and remaining for /home/, I ran into a space problem :P
[19:56] <Roasted> akiva, so I guess it depends what your goal is. Do you want to use Ubuntu and that's it? Do you want to have personal documents on this Ubuntu install? Etc.
[19:56] <Kyle__> akiva: You can get away with 4gigs, if you're in a pinch.  Maybe look at what's so full on windows?  If it's general files/downloads, split that onto it's own partition :)
[19:57] <ikthus> any solution for the slow usb transfer bug ?
[19:57] <Roasted> Daekdroom, I normally set 15-20gb partition size for root. But like I said, I have a full Ubuntu install on this laptop and 5gb is in use in the root partition. :P
[19:57] <Roasted> I always like a little overhead JUST IN CASE... never know.
[19:57] <drew212> is there a way to actively back up my home folder into a separate location on a different HDD in case my current drive fails?
[19:57] <Roasted> drew212, there's lots of ways.
[19:58] <ikonia> drew212: mount your other harddrive, and copy the data over, it's that simple
[19:58] <Roasted> drew212, I personally do that on my desktop at home. I set up an rsync script to run every 12 hours to back my entire home directory up to a different hard drive.
[19:58] <akiva> ANyone?
[19:58] <drew212> ikonia: i'm more looking at what roasted is talking about
[19:58] <zemeus> Does anyone know much about laptop hardware?
[19:58] <Kyle__> drew212: Like Roasted said, lots of ways.  Either write yoruself a backup script, or use backula, or backuppc, or amanda, or any one of the other dozens of backup programs out there.
[19:58] <Roasted> drew212, it really depends what you want to do. Do you just want a backup for one time and that's it? If so, copy it over as ikonia suggested. Do you want a more automated backup process? Theres lots of apps for that.
[19:58] <h00k> !anyone | zemeus
[19:58] <thune3> ikthus: what issue are you taking about?
[19:59] <drew212> Roasted: an automated backup
[19:59] <ikonia> drew212: it's a good solution
[19:59] <ikonia> drew212: the issue with that is  your machine has to be on when the crontab runs
[19:59] <Gumby> drew212: I can msg you a quick comamnd that will work
[19:59] <Roasted> drew212, well, I wrote a script using an rsync command. However, theres a lot of GUI applications that are based on rsync. So it depends which route you want to take - yet both get you to the same destination.
[19:59] <Gumby> or I can paste it here... its one line
[19:59] <jm_> anyone able to shed some light on ndiswrapper invalid driver faults?
[20:00] <zemeus> Sorry, I figured if someone knew a lot... they would respond, so I wouldn't nag everyone in the room.
[20:00] <Roasted> drew212, just keep in mind, if lightning hits that box and fries the hard drives (ALL drives) this backup does nothing. So while I highly recommend doing what you're asking, I still recommend backing up the most important data to an external hard drive or some other form of media.
[20:00] <drew212> Roasted: something with a GUI, but it needs to start on system startup, i don't want to have to remember to turn it on, i forget things easily
[20:00] <ikonia> drew212: put it in your rc.local
[20:00] <Roasted> drew212, well, I often shut my computer down during the day, but I have my backup run every 12 hours. If it runs at least once every 3 days, I'm happy. So while I shut my system down frequently, it runs frequently enough being its on a 12 hour schedule.
[20:01] <Roasted> drew212, you can customize that time frame to anything you want too, by the way.
[20:01] <drew212> Roasted: i have surge protectors, and i'm more looking for something to save to a drive because i frequently reformat and find i'm missing data i need
[20:01] <hotfloppy> Gumby: paste it here will ya? sharing is caring :)
[20:01] <Roasted> drew212, even still, I've seen motherboards get fried and in turn throw a "surge" at the hard drives - killing them.
[20:01] <Gumby> this will back up everything created 24 hours prior to it being run
[20:01] <Roasted> drew212, I've seen some WEIRD power failures, even with proper precautions put in place. I'd still recommend some form of backup for the CRUCIAL data.
[20:02] <Gumby>  find /path/to/source -mtime -1 -type f -exec pax -rw {} /path/to/destination \;
[20:02] <ikthus> thune3, was reporter many times, here for exemple https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/457768
[20:02] <Gumby> lots of other ways, but I know this one to work
[20:02] <drew212> roasted, yea, i'll look into that, i currently can't afford anything other than what i have 1 200gb drive, and a 500gb drive
[20:02] <Roasted> drew212, example, I back up my pictures on DVD once a month. I have pictures of people and pets that aren't with me anymore. To lose them, I'd freak out. So I do DVD backups of pictures since they are the most crucial to me, but the rest of the data is kind of whatever - I just let the drives sync up to back the data up.
[20:02] <Gumby> I should say created or modified
[20:02] <hotfloppy> Gumby: simple one liner eh.. nice..
[20:03] <Gumby> hotfloppy: yup, nice and simple
[20:03] <Roasted> drew212, it's all good. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate because it *IS* important to have more than 1 backup. I work for a large school district, and we have backups of backups of backups. We've had a lot of close calls with data loss, so I'm thankful for the redundancy we have. I apply that opinion to home use too, which is why I'm preaching it here. :P
[20:03] <drew212> Roasted: well thanks for informing me =)
[20:04] <Roasted> drew212, there are GUI applications to get started though. Most of which I have not used since I use a bin/bash script I created.
[20:04] <jm_> backups of backups of backups - perfect waste of public money
[20:04] <drew212> Roasted: currently the only problem i've had is self induced, so i want my data in two places in case i kill it in one location =D
[20:04] <Roasted> jm_, actually, it's not. Ever have a building burn to the ground with your core servers in place?
[20:04] <Zeppelean> hola
[20:04] <Gumby> drew212: if you add that line to /etc/rc.local and also setup a crontab entry for say every 6 hours or so you should be pretty safe
[20:04] <julianoliver> hi. i am trying to diagnose why my install of a lightly customised Ubuntu always boots read-only. i've remounted it as rw and it works fine and ensured that /etc/fstab has entries identical to my other Ubuntu and debian installs where applicable. fsck has no effect. any ideas?
[20:05] <Roasted> jm_, until you do and feel the relief of having an off-site backup, therefore saving yourself money from penalties you'd get from the state from losing critical student data information, I'd suggest being quiet with your opinions. Thanks.
[20:05] <ikonia> julianoliver: what have you customised in it
[20:05] <Zeppelean> gente, necesitaria ayuda para utilizar archivos de access en linux
[20:05] <Gumby> drew212: although if its an external drive, I'd add a check to make sure the drive was mounted first
[20:05] <Daekdroom> !es | Zeppelean
[20:05] <h00k> !ot
[20:05] <VilleVicious> how mutch recources does it take up when you have two user logged in (with switch user)?
[20:05] <Roasted> drew212, well, what do you want to set up - a direct home directory backup from 1 drive to another in the SAME system?
[20:06] <hotfloppy> Gumby: make a simple script from the command you gave.. thanks :)
[20:06] <Gumby> hotfloppy: nice, good work
[20:06] <hotfloppy> Gumby: i mean already make :P
[20:06] <drew212> i don't want it on the same HDD though, i like to destroy HDDs
[20:06] <julianoliver> ikonia: i've added a few packages, it auto boots into my software on reaching userland /home.
[20:06] <ikonia> julianoliver: ok, so nothing actual "custom", just a few config changes
[20:06] <julianoliver> ikonia: nothing in the fstab has been manipulated, neither init or etc
[20:07] <hotfloppy> Gumby: just in case, when i need to backup a thing.. this script will be handy :)
[20:07] <Gumby> hotfloppy: I have a script setup to run that command, tar the files, write the contents of that tar to a file, and email me that file nightly so I can make sure its run properly.  I do it at a client of mine.
[20:07] <ikonia> julianoliver: is it getting shut down clean ?
[20:07] <Roasted> drew212, you want to backup from 1 drive to a 2nd drive, right?> is this in the SAME computer?
[20:07] <hotfloppy> Gumby: you're such a guru..
[20:07] <geez> Howdy, just installed netbeans 6.9 ide from the Ubuntu Software Center. basically, a download from sun/netbeans. The install went OK. Now, no icon or way to invoke :-?
[20:07]  * hotfloppy bow to Gumby
[20:07] <drew212> yes
[20:07] <julianoliver> ikonia: after the first boot post install it mounted read-only, ever since i've shut it down clean, yes.
[20:08] <Gumby> hotfloppy: the great thing about it is, I can always tell when they have a cheque ready for me cause I see that their payables file for me has been edited
[20:08] <hotfloppy> Gumby: lol
[20:08] <webPragmatist> whats a good way to monitor throughput for na interface
[20:08] <Gumby> hotfloppy: naw, not a guru...  I just have good google fu and know how to ask a question :)
[20:08] <Roasted> drew212, well, if you want to check out a gui application, I'm not too sure I'll be of much more help, however, the GUI apps you want to check out are anything based on rsync.
[20:08] <Roasted> drew212, my script is simply 1 command.... rsync -a --progress --delete /home/jason/ /media/localbackup/
[20:08] <Sensiva> Hello, is it possible to know how many times a bug or a question has been viewed in Launchpad.net ?
[20:08] <drew212> Roasted: i'm looking now thanks a bunch =)
[20:09] <hotfloppy> Gumby: .. and a creative mind ;)
[20:09] <Gumby> hehe, that too
[20:09] <newboon2age> geez: there's probably a command to start it from the command line.  did you try netbeans from the CL?
[20:09] <julianoliver> ikonia: very oddly, it mounts rw as long as i first boot into rescue mode (errors=remount-ro) and *then* fsck and then select *clean* in the ncurses rescue options. if i boot normally, pull up a prompt, remount rw and fsck, no such luck.
[20:09] <Roasted> drew212, rsync -a (archiving) --progress shows me the progress of it if I run it manually in terminal (whcih I never do, so its not that important). then theres --delete, which means if I delete something on drive A, and the script runs, it deletes it on drive B. --delete sounds scary, but --delete means when it backs up, itll be EXACT to the source drive - aka your main drive.
[20:09] <Roasted> drew212, then of course, /home/jason is my home directory, and /media/localbackup is the location of the 2nd internal hard drive.
[20:09] <Gumby> my solution requires no rsync setup :P
[20:10] <Roasted> drew212, I just set it up in a #bin/bash script, set up crontab to execute it every 12 hours.
[20:10] <ikonia> julianoliver: when you boot into rescure mode, is there .fsck in the root file system
[20:10] <Roasted> drew212, from there, I do nothing. IT runs on its own. All of the time. Every 12 hours.
[20:10] <Roasted> I do... nothing. :P
[20:10] <newboon2age> geez: once you figure out what the invocation command is, you can create a launcher and put it on the desktop, in a menu or wherever.
[20:10] <Roasted> Gumby, whats your solution?
[20:10] <thune3> ikthus: are you using custom mount options?
[20:10] <Gumby> Roasted:  find /path/to/source -mtime -1 -type f -exec pax -rw {} /path/to/destination \;
[20:10] <ikonia> julianoliver: sorry /forefsck
[20:10] <Roasted> Gumby, okay. what's that do?
[20:10] <pgpkeys> i have evolution grabbing IMAPS'd subscribed folders. I have one specific folder that is constantly being double grabbed (which obviates that it thus slows down to all hell on offline syncing). How do I stop it from double grabbing and where is this defined?
[20:10] <ikonia> julianoliver: even sorrier, /forcefsck
[20:10] <Gumby> Roasted: pretty much what your rsync does :)
[20:11] <Gumby> not saying one is better than the other, just different solutions
[20:11] <Roasted> Gumby, differente solutions, same results. ahh, linux. :P
[20:11] <Roasted> I love it.
[20:11] <geez> netbeans is an IDE. in the case for groovy/grails
[20:11] <julianoliver> ikonia: there is no /forcefsck
[20:11] <Gumby> add to crontab, run when you want to :)
[20:11] <newboon2age> geez: also it might already be on the menu, but just not showing.  If you right click on the menu and pull up the menu editor, you can see if its already there (probably under programming) and then just check it so it will show.
[20:11] <ikonia> julianoliver: even more interesting
[20:11] <ikonia> julianoliver: when you fsck it, is it marked as dirty ?
[20:11] <Roasted> Gumby, I almost feel "old". the only way I know to use rsync is with crontab and terminal scripts. I dont even know the new gui apps out. :(
[20:12] <Phun5tar> I do not have the path that was given to me
[20:12] <Gumby> I fsck my gf and try to mark her as dirty but it never works
[20:12] <Roasted> lol?
[20:12] <Roasted> well I guess our conversation is over.
[20:12] <ikonia> yes
[20:12] <Roasted> so anyway drew212... find anything?
[20:12] <drew212> Roasted: i'm working with grsync
[20:12] <julianoliver> ikonia: no. 0.1 percent discontiguity and then it will continue to boot. it will crash at X (as it needs 'w') but if i 'clean' first it seems to be fine. the clean i need to test one more time however, to be sure that that's necessary. one moment.
[20:13] <Kyle__> Roasted: Don't feel old, feel like an old master.  You don't need the crutch of a gui.
[20:13] <Roasted> drew212, good stuff. g-admin has a lot of applications for server oriented things.
[20:13] <drew212> Roasted: how do i get it to automatically run on startup and every 6 hours?
[20:13] <ikonia> julianoliver: never seen anything like that
[20:13] <Phun5tar> I do not know how to edit my desktop startup script
[20:13] <julianoliver> ikonia: it's something of a boring mystery..
[20:13] <Roasted> drew212, ehh you might have me there. You're using a GUI app and I dont use a GUI app for rsync...
[20:13] <Roasted> drew212, I would THINK thered be an option for it within the menu though.
[20:14] <Phun5tar> as I said before, I'm a bit stoned and I can't recall my GUI version
[20:14] <Roasted> Kyle__, haaa yeah. You gotta love GUI stuff though... it DOES make some things easier. However, I'm a terminal junkie, and "stuck in my ways". :P
[20:14] <Kyle__> drew212: crontab for timed (every 12 hours), on startup... doesn't ubuntu have an /etc/rc.startup, or something like that.
[20:14] <Phun5tar> it is not gnome, per se
[20:14] <drew212> Roasted: i'm not scared of the CLI, but i'd rather know exactly what i'm doing
[20:14] <Kyle__> Roasted: Sometimes guis are nice, but by and large, I only use them when I need to show something to a manager/boss/etc.
[20:14] <drew212> i've never used crontab, so you'd have to walk me through it
[20:14] <Kyle__> Real work is done CLI.
[20:14] <Roasted> drew212, hey, completely understandable. I'm just saying my limitation with GUI rsync solutions is limited, so I hate to give you info I'm not 100% concrete on .
[20:15] <julianoliver> ikonia: sadly, i can't tail the logs as /var is ro. dmesg has a buffer limit.
[20:15] <julianoliver> perhaps i will alter this
[20:15] <ikonia> julianoliver: is it just / that's getting mounted ro
[20:15] <Roasted> drew212, well I basically run sudo gedit /etc/crontab, and it brings up a text editor with crontab. But keep in mind, crontab-ing it is with the script option that I use.
[20:15] <Phun5tar> anyone know CLI for editing desktop startup scripts?
[20:15] <julianoliver> ikonia: yes
[20:16] <drew212> Roasted: i prefer vim =)
[20:16] <julianoliver> Phun5tar: vim .xsession or .xinit
[20:16] <ikonia> julianoliver: what other partitions do you have
[20:16] <Roasted> drew212, you see, I create a script and name it "backup". then I set executable permissions to it. That means if I go to terminal and type backup, it runs (as long as ownership permissions are good - which since I own it, and I own the script, it works fine)
[20:16] <julianoliver> Phun5tar: vim .xsession or .xinitrc
[20:16] <Kyle__> drew212: /etc/rc.local :) put your on-start script in there.
[20:16] <p1l0t> Ok so I am getting repeat brute-force attacks on my server trying to guess the root password... I want to set up RSA key identification. I'm kinda of new to this though... I have to run ssh-keygen on the server right? and then copy one of the keys to any client machine that wants to connect right?
[20:16] <Roasted> drew212, then I add two entries in crontab. each of them executing by jason - aka me. the command is simply "backup". I set it to run every day, every month, every year, @ 4:00 and 16:00 - 4 am, 4 pm.
[20:17] <drew212> Kyle_i wouldn't know how to write a script, =X i'm a pretty basic user
[20:17] <Roasted> drew212, then what I did was I would add a bunch of bogus files in my source drive and the next day I'd check it to make sure it sync'd them to my destination drive.
[20:17] <Roasted> Kyle__, hm, I didnt know that. What all can you put in rc.local? Is it just for bin bash scripts to run on startup?
[20:17] <Phun5tar> I don't see items that correlate to my issue
[20:17] <solidturtle> hi, I have too much source code in my home from different project get from internet and I would put in another place than /home what is the best place? and what about rights?
[20:17] <Roasted> drew212, it's easy, you just need to know the command.
[20:17] <Phun5tar> upon using those commands, that is
[20:17] <julianoliver> ikonia: i have three in total. a bootable /dev/sda1, an extended /dev/sda3 and swap on /dev/sda5
[20:18] <Roasted> drew212, my script is 2 lines. first line is #!bin/bash. 2nd line is rsync -a --progress --delete /home/jason/ /media/localbackup/
[20:18] <Roasted> drew212, save, name it "backup" (my personal preference) and then allow executable rights to it.
[20:18] <Kyle__> Roasted: Yup.  It runs after all the other init scripts.  So if you want something non-standard to run on boot, you put it in there.
[20:18] <ikonia> julianoliver: what file systems are they / /home etc ?
[20:18] <Roasted> Kyle__, its just for bin bash scripts though?
[20:19] <CppIsWeird> i just tried installing ubuntu-xen-server and it says it cant be installed because one of its dependencies cannot be found, xen-tools.
[20:19] <drew212> Roasted: will rsync remove files if they're removed from the source dir?
[20:19] <julianoliver> ikonia: in fact the /dev/sda3 isn't mounted in fstab..
[20:19] <Roasted> drew212, by default, no. that's what the --delete tag does.
[20:19] <Kyle__> Roasted: It's for anything you want.  Just remember it runs as root :)
[20:19] <Drknezz> Hi guys! Anyone here has experience wiht Ubuntu PXE installs?
[20:19] <Roasted> drew212, thats my command by the way. You customize it to YOUR system.
[20:19] <Phun5tar> why does firefox and my trash can open upon desktop startup?
[20:19] <tyler_d1> I cannot hard code 2 static ip's in ubuntu 10.04 64, only one or hte other works, never both?
[20:19] <ikonia> julianoliver: if you boot without splash, do you see anything obvious ?
[20:19] <Roasted> Drknezz, Ive ran FOG on Ubuntu before, which PXE boots systems for imaging.
[20:19] <julianoliver> ikonia: yes, endless read-only filesystem reports.
[20:20] <Kyle__> Roasted: Sometimes I use it to mount things that are finicky, sometimes I use it for configs.  SOmetimes I use it cause I've compiled a service that I was too lazy to write a proper init script for :)
[20:20] <ikonia> julianoliver: how odd
[20:20] <ikonia> julianoliver: it's not an SSD is it ?
[20:20] <Drknezz> Roasted: im trying to install ubuntu from a tftp server running on windows, problem is, i need to preload drivers for my laptop net hardware
[20:20] <Roasted> Kyle__, hmm, never had a need for it *yet* but its a good thing to know.
[20:20] <julianoliver> ikonia: no
[20:20] <Roasted> Drknezz, hmm, wouldnt have any experience there. My experience is the opposite - I use ubuntu as the server, and image windows clients.
[20:21] <Drknezz> Roasted :S
[20:21] <CppIsWeird> i just tried installing ubuntu-xen-server and it says it cant be installed because one of its dependencies cannot be found, xen-tools.
[20:21] <ikonia> julianoliver: I can't think of a reason for this behaviour
[20:21] <Drknezz> CppIsWeird: Do you have any other repos than the normal ones?
[20:21] <julianoliver> ikonia: nor can i. it's quite troubling really.
[20:21] <Kyle__> Roasted: That file, or one like it, is found in most every linux/BSD and other unix like system.
[20:21] <h00k> julianoliver: it's not an odd custom kernel or anything, is it?
[20:21] <CppIsWeird> Drknezz, i have whatever came with the system upon install.
[20:21] <julianoliver> ikonia: i mean, why is it that an fsck each time will allow me through to a normal boot?
[20:22] <julianoliver> h00k: no, not at all.
[20:22] <Drknezz> CppIsWeird: Hmmm...
[20:22] <bihari> can any one help me ? i got some problem
[20:22] <ikonia> julianoliver: more so when it's clean before fsck anyway
[20:22] <Drknezz> CppIsWeird: try visiting the official webpage and download DEBs from there
[20:22] <Roasted> Kyle__, not sure I understand. would I just add th ename of the bin/bash file to the end (but before the exit 0) of rc.local?
[20:22] <bihari> Cannot run gyvoice due to the following missing files:
[20:22] <bihari>       tsd32.dll
[20:22] <bihari>       tssoft.acm
[20:22] <Roasted> Kyle__, I thought rc.local was a folder, and I'd just throw the script in. I didnt realize it was a text file.
[20:22] <julianoliver> ikonia: in fact i just proved that correlation wrong. i booted normally in rescue-mode after fsck and no clean.
[20:22] <ikonia> bihari: those are windows files
[20:23] <ikonia> julianoliver: it's not clean ?
[20:23] <h00k> bihari: also, use !pastebin for pasting multiple files.
[20:23] <h00k> lines8
[20:23] <bihari> so how to short out this problem
[20:23] <Kyle__> Roasted: Yes.  You'd add it before the exit.  Technically rc.local _is_ a bash script, so you'd put your code in there, or call it from there, like you would in any other bash script.
[20:23] <ikonia> bihari: what are you trying to run ?
[20:23] <julianoliver> ikonia: i don't know. 'clean' in the Ubuntu rescue-mode ncurses UI relates to freeing up disk space, which i assume == apt-get clean.
[20:23] <Roasted> Kyle__, gotcha. good deal.
[20:24] <bihari> gaychi
[20:24] <Roasted> drew212, you still out there?
[20:24] <ikonia> julianoliver: drop into a rescure shell, rather than ncurses
[20:24] <teicah> I have a LONG question -> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/UHghpZQs
[20:24] <bihari> gaychi is yahoo clint which support voice chat
[20:24] <ikonia> julianoliver: first thing, fsck it see what it reports
[20:24] <hotfloppy> Phun5tar: maybe you had ticked the option to remember your open application on log out.. if thats the case, those open application will reopen automatically on startup.. to disable it, go to System > Startup Application, go to Option tab and untick the option..
[20:24] <ikonia> bihari: use the linux version rather than the windows version
[20:24] <drew212> Roasted: yeah, i've backed up my folder, i'm short on time so i'll have to look at the scripting later
[20:24] <julianoliver> ikonia: i have tried that. just 0.1% discontiguity.
[20:24] <hotfloppy> Phun5tar: sorry if i'm not helping enough :)
[20:24]  * julianoliver does it again.
[20:24] <ikonia> julianoliver: while I don't doubt you, that "can't" be right
[20:25] <drew212> Roasted: currently i can just run it every now and then, which will be fine
[20:25] <bihari> yes gaychi is linux version
[20:25] <Cozarinsky> Hi!
[20:25] <p1l0t> Can I suggest adding https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys to ubottu under !rsa
[20:25] <ikonia> bihari: then why is it asking for windows files
[20:25] <julianoliver> ikonia: let me try one more time to be sure
[20:25] <ikonia> julianoliver: I'm not doubting you at all, I'm just saying it doesn't make sense, it should be dirty
[20:25] <bihari> i dont kniow
[20:25] <bihari> know
[20:25] <Thorn_> Hello. Wubi does not show "Install Inside Windows" button at all on any of my machines (Tested Win7 and XP). Googled around to no avail. The middle button and its related description simply does not appear in the application.
[20:25] <Thorn_>  http://ader008.titandsl.co.uk/thorn/wubinowubi.jpg   vs     http://www.linoob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/wubi-1.PNG
[20:25] <Roasted> drew212, good deal, and good luck. I gotta get back to some wiring here. If you want to pursue the scripting idea further like I have it set up, PM me @ "Roasted" on UbuntuForums.org. Otherwise if you just have GUI app questions about it, I might not be the best person to ask, but I'm sure others in here would know more about that area. :)
[20:26] <CppIsWeird> Drknezz, the official site does not have a deb.
[20:26] <h00k> p1l0t: in a /query to ubottu, you can suggest factoid changes with !rsa is <stuff goes here>
[20:26] <julianoliver> ikonia: hmm when i simply 'fsck /dev/sda1' it reports it clean.
[20:26] <Drknezz> CppIsWeird: Youll have to compile it yourself then, they must have a compilation page around there
[20:26] <bihari> i can access the chat rooms but when i on the voice chat it give me  following missing files
[20:26] <ikonia> julianoliver: ok - he's a test
[20:26] <h00k> bihari: you
[20:26] <CppIsWeird> nah, that doesnt make sense.
[20:26] <CppIsWeird> there has to be another reason my system cant find that package.
[20:26] <ikonia> julianoliver: boot it so it's a "problem" again, reboot into recue shell, manually mount the disk without an fsck, what does it say
[20:26] <h00k> bihari: you'll probably have to get support from the software maintainers for help using it, then
[20:27] <CppIsWeird> i just tried installing ubuntu-xen-server and it says it cant be installed because one of its dependencies cannot be found, xen-tools.
[20:27] <bihari> can i install this windows file on my ubuntu so that it will support?
[20:27] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: make sure your repo is up to date, and you do an apt-get first to make sure all the versions are current with the repo
[20:27] <bihari> is there any way
[20:28] <julianoliver> ikonia: but it already mounts, it errors=remount-ro
[20:28] <ikonia> julianoliver: yup, reboot, recovery shell, mount it rw manually, what does it say/do
[20:28] <p1l0t> h00k: thanks!
[20:28] <CppIsWeird> i dont know what this means "make sure all the versions are current with the repo" and my apt-get is up to date.
[20:28] <MaRk-I> p1l0t: you can also implement fail2ban
[20:29] <p1l0t> MaRk-I: What is fail2ban?
[20:29] <julianoliver> ikonia: nothing, as my original question said. alles gut/super.
[20:29] <ikonia> julianoliver: so if you mount it manually, it just mounts fine
[20:29] <MaRk-I> p1l0t: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/fail2ban
[20:29] <julianoliver> ikonia: the system is fine and ready to be used.
[20:29] <julianoliver> ikonia: yep
[20:29] <ikonia> julianoliver: apologies if I've missed part of the conversation
[20:29] <hotfloppy> bihari: maybe you could submit a bug report.. http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/bugs.shtml
[20:29] <julianoliver> ikonia: no probs
[20:29] <teicah> is there a "gconftool-2" command to set one specific $HOME/folder to list view in nautilus?
[20:29] <MattoD>  hi all, quick Question, i am using server 10.04, iwant to access root via WinSCP on a different PC so i can drag and drop,how do i go about this and its on same network
[20:30] <p1l0t> MaRk-I: thanks!
[20:30] <bihari> humm
[20:30] <MaRk-I> bihari: check the instructions you need to install "tsp codecs"
[20:30] <ikonia> MattoD: you don't it's locked
[20:30] <ikonia> MattoD: you'd have to unlock the root account
[20:30] <MaRk-I> p1l0t: yw
[20:30] <hotfloppy> bihari: because, i think thats impossible for linux program to ask for windows file..
[20:30] <MattoD> how do i unlock it?
[20:30] <julianoliver> ikonia: it's a very odd problem indeed, not one i've had with a debian machine. i wonder if it's the new Ubuntu UID disk addressing playing up?
[20:30] <hotfloppy> bihari: so, thats might be a bug..
[20:30] <ikonia> MattoD: just set a password on it
[20:30] <MaRk-I> bihari: send me a PM
[20:31] <ikonia> julianoliver: I strongly doubt it
[20:31] <julianoliver> right
[20:31] <bihari> oki
[20:32] <ohir> MattoD: you should not set up root password.
[20:32] <ikonia> ohir: he has to if he wants to unlock the root account
[20:32] <arvind_khadri> !root | MattoD
[20:32] <ohir> MattoD: you may still use scp/sftp authenticating with key
[20:32] <Thorn_> Is there an official WUBI IRC channel?
[20:33] <ohir> MattoD: man sshd will tell you how to set up your key
[20:33] <Pici> ohir: You don't need to unlock the root account to do that iirc.
[20:33] <MattoD> okies ty
[20:33] <MaRk-I> hotfloppy: that particular program does need them codecs for voice to work
[20:33] <ohir> ikonia: no, he does not need to do local unlock if all he needs is remote acces
[20:33] <ikonia> ohir: agreed, it depends on what his client supports
[20:34] <ohir> MattoD: use clause rootlogin without-password in your sshd.conf
[20:35] <hotfloppy> MaRk-I: oic.. i thought its a bug :P
[20:35] <hotfloppy> MaRk-I: whats the codec ? is it in repo ?
[20:35] <MaRk-I> hotfloppy: lol nah strange but needed for yahoo voice
[20:35] <ohir> MattoD: for better protection restrict key usage to your private network (ie 192.168.0.*)
[20:36] <MaRk-I> it might be in win32codecs
[20:36] <MaRk-I> but you can d/l them and install manually
[20:36] <BluesKaj> w32codecs
[20:36] <MaRk-I> BluesKaj: yes those thanks
[20:37] <MattoD> i have the get-apt desktop installed to, i managed it on 9.04 but cant seem to on 10.04
[20:37] <Pici> ohir: You shouldn't need to change anything on a default Ubuntu install.  As long as the root account is locked you are fine.  If you choose to setup hostkey auth for root then that will work without any changes to your sshd_config.
[20:37] <BluesKaj> MattoD, sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop ?