[00:36] <bryce> jbarnes: is the gpu dumping stuff particular to 9xx?  is it at all worth trying for 8xx freeze bugs?
[00:40] <jbarnes> so far it just decodes 9xx stuff mainly
[11:44] <seb128> bryce_: did you try to trigger the intel crash with a virtual config?
[11:45] <seb128> there has been 2 new comments from users who don't have the issue and have virtual settings today
[18:58] <hyperair> is there a reason i965 has been blacklisted in jaunty?
[18:59] <hyperair> i commented out the line in the compiz loading script and it seems to run fine
[19:00] <mnemo> hyperair: if you do "aptitude changlog compiz" maybe there is a comment about the reason on that change?
[19:01] <hyperair> mnemo: i'll poke it later when i'm back in jaunty.
[19:01] <hyperair> the installer hung on me.
[19:01] <hyperair> bah
[19:01] <mnemo> ;(
[19:01] <hyperair> well then
[19:01] <hyperair> off i go
[19:01] <hyperair> with another attempt with the usb startup thing
[19:21] <jbarnes> apw: get a chance to put together those mchbar patches yet?
[19:47] <bryce> http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/drivers.svg
[19:51] <jcastro> bryce: that is ouchy
[19:56] <bryce> jcastro: yeah
[20:04] <paran> but that is a nice graph.. I didn't know gnuplot could output SVG :)
[20:45] <jbarnes_> bryce: those trends are pretty scary... all of the used drivers have positive slopes
[20:47] <bryce> jbarnes: yep
[20:48] <bryce> well, except for -nv and -openchrome
[20:48] <jbarnes> yeah that's why I qualified it with "used" :)
[20:48] <bryce> heh
[20:48] <jbarnes> we're clearly in the worst shape though... and only partly because there are so many intel chips out there
[20:49] <bryce> -ati at least has fewer bugs now than it did at the start of  the period
[20:49] <jbarnes> yeah that's nice
[20:50] <jbarnes> I wonder how many ati bug reports are supressed when people just move to the proprietary driver though
[20:50] <bryce> actually for jaunty, we've seen the reverse situation
[20:50] <jbarnes> if they find a bug in fglrx I wonder if they report it directly to ati or just live with it too
[20:50] <jbarnes> oh really?
[20:51] <bryce> -fglrx was not available for the longest time, so people were using -ati, and then when we finally did get it, they dropped support for all pre-R6xx chips
[20:51] <jbarnes> oh right
[20:51] <bryce> so this cycle a LOT of people have been forced to shift to -ati.
[20:52] <bryce> also the functionality gap between -ati and -fglrx is a lot narrower than between -nv and -nvidia
[20:52] <jbarnes> yeah
[20:52] <bryce> I've given up on -nv pretty much.  I think in karmic we're going to switch to -nouveau like fedora has
[20:53] <jbarnes> yeah might be in ok shape by then... the fedora guys have been putting a ton of work into it
[20:54] <bryce> with -intel, I'm a bit concerned in that with the EXA -> UXA transition, is upstream going to care any longer about bugs when using EXA?  If not, what do we do with all these existing bug reports?  wontfix them?
[20:55] <bryce> I guess, once we have new -intel bits in place, we'll ask people to retest against that, and close the bugs if they can't reproduced there
[20:57] <jbarnes> yeah that's one option
[20:57] <jbarnes> we'll continue to do 2.7.x releases though
[20:58] <jbarnes> which means asking users to try uxa might become more viable over time with juanty, since the driver has it and it should get more usable over the 2.7.x period
[21:01] <bryce> that's good to hear
[21:01] <bryce> I'd like in karmic to retain the option of switching back to exa for users who have trouble with uxa


 @The_LoudSpeaker [Yup! Those three only. Also, maybe mimeapps.list ? We changed a couple of things …], Worked!
 @HMollerCl [Worked!], You mean super+r ?
 Also, what do we do for those repeating shortcuts?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [You mean super+r ?], And súper alone for panel for an  upgrade
[06:56] <skulstars> hello dear friends
[06:57] <skulstars> problem not knows how to change default Google Chrome browers
[06:57] <skulstars> please help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odVNaSQTl4g
[08:07] <The_LoudSpeaker> ^ wxl: This is about the task related to $BROWSER right?
[08:07] <The_LoudSpeaker> known issue.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [You mean super+r ?], It worked the first time, on second boot didn't work
 I'm not sure if it has something to do with repeating entries
 On Wednesday I'm back from vacations more connected to test
[13:46] <The_LoudSpeaker> ugghhh! I hate you shortcutkeys.
[13:47] <The_LoudSpeaker> I will check next week.
[14:51] <The_LoudSpeaker> any idea how do we know if location is on or off in lubuntu?
[15:45] <wxl[m]> The_LoudSpeaker: yep
[15:45] <wxl[m]> Also
[15:45] <wxl[m]> !support
 Look what the cat dragged in ;)
 XD
[21:02] <kc2bez> XD
[23:51] <wxl> @kc2bez this is really weird about those binaries. `arc diff` has a `skip-binaries` switch, implying the default behavior is to not skip binaries. even still, though i've arc patched, i see 0 size files. and yet the diff seems to be aware of file sizes
[23:51] <wxl> the raw diff is curious too https://phab.lubuntu.me/file/data/u4v3zbk3r6hr2kklg7ae/PHID-FILE-cgjc3cxex3o4m2qpngtf/D47.diff
[23:54] <kc2bez> wxl: I am not sure where to go from here.
[23:54] <wxl> also the error is clearly from arc and not leaking through from git underneath https://github.com/phacility/arcanist/blob/master/src/workflow/ArcanistDiffWorkflow.php#L2722


[00:45] <Legendario> any hint here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/EJ3dPfKT ?????????
[02:01] <stevecrozz> micahg: have you had a chance to look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/uwsgi again?
[02:04] <micahg> stevecrozz: you still need to run update-maintainer, but I'd like to chat with the ITP person a little more
[02:05] <stevecrozz> micahg: i did run update-maintainer, does still look like I haven't?
[02:05] <micahg> stevecrozz: ah, maybe w/out an internet connection?
[02:05] <micahg> oh, hmm
[02:06] <stevecrozz> hm, i don't think so... is something wrong with it?
[02:06] <micahg> nm, it's because it's not in the archive yet
[02:08] <stevecrozz> micahg: I'll let leonid know you want to talk with him, maybe i can get him to pop in here again
[02:09] <micahg> stevecrozz: he's got almost everything
[02:11] <stevecrozz> micahg: is there anything I can do to help?
[02:12] <micahg> I just don't see the need for dynamic build-deps
[02:15] <stevecrozz> i have no strong feelings on that, i guess we'll see if leo can convince you
[02:28] <stevecrozz> hey micahg: leo just arrived, he's onehundredthirty
[02:29] <micahg> hi again onehundredthirty
[02:29] <onehundredthirty> hi
[02:29] <micahg> I saw your modifications, why the need for build-deps being variable?
[02:29]  * micahg sees no evidence in control.in
[02:31] <onehundredthirty> yes, I didn't put it into control.in. but could you please try to clone repository and build it? it will fail because of Build-Depends
[02:32] <micahg> onehundredthirty: sure, but do you know what needs to be changed?
[02:33] <ebroder> onehundredthirty: by the way, i was wrong yesterday when i said that other packages didn't support multiple interpreters. libapache2-mod-wsgi actually builds both a py2.6 and py2.7 module in the same package
[02:36] <pabelanger> So, if I had a Ubuntu package, could I recompile it twice? Once for <package> and another time for <package-dbg>?   There are some specific compile time flags I would need to set for a -dbg version of the package
[02:36] <onehundredthirty> ebroder: yes, i see it. yesterday I talk with member of Debian Python Modules Team on #debian-python and he pointed out this package. it was after I posted comment on REVU. and now I think to change the uWSGI package in something like mod_wsgi
[02:36] <ebroder> onehundredthirty: excellent. sounds much better than a bunch of dynamically generated packages
[02:37] <pabelanger> sorry, wrong channel
[02:38] <onehundredthirty> micahg: d/rules looks into d/control and invokes different Python interpreter for different uwsgi-python* packages. and some of these Python interpreters aren't in Build-Depends
[02:38] <micahg> onehundredthirty: python-all-dev doesn't pull them in?
[02:41] <onehundredthirty> micahg: yeah. the same thought comes into my mind now. python-all-dev it really must pull all Python interprestes in. well, maybe my comment on REVU was wrong. but before posting it i tried to build 'control.in' branch on Maverick and it fails on wrong Build-Depends
[02:42] <ebroder> onehundredthirty: you should be able to build-dep on python-all-dev, then use pyversions to figure out what to build against
[02:45] <onehundredthirty> ebroder: yeah, I saw pyversions usage in mod_wsgi package. I'll use it too.
[02:45] <ebroder> onehundredthirty: awesome. sounds like you have things under control
[02:47] <onehundredthirty> ebroder: but there is one disadvantage in packing all pythonX.Y-related executables in package uwsgi-pythonX. Package will contain executables linked to different libpythonX.Y, but the package will Depends only on one libpython
[02:47] <onehundredthirty> ebroder: when user will  try to invoke executable with missing libpython, it wil fails
[02:47] <ebroder> onehundredthirty: that's not true. you should have a ${shlibs:Depends} in your depends: line, and call dh_shlibdeps in your rules file (or if you're using the %: dh $@ rules file, it'll do it for you)
[02:48] <ebroder> dh_shlibdeps finds all of the executables and makes sure the libraries they link are substituted for ${shlibs:Depends}
[02:49] <onehundredthirty> ebroder: but then my package will pull-in ALL python interpreters. say, I 'apt-get uwsgi-python2' and it pulls in python2.6 and python2.7. is it good idea? mod_wsgi didn't so this
[02:49] <ebroder> onehundredthirty: they don't pull in python2.6 and python2.7, just libpython2.6 and libpython2.7
[02:50] <ebroder> and yes, mod_wsgi does do this
[02:50] <ebroder> in fact, it would be a bug in your package if you did *not* depend on the libraries needed to link the executables in the package
[02:50] <onehundredthirty> ebroder: libpythonX.Y Depends on pythonX.Y
[02:50] <ebroder> huh. so they do. hadn't noticed that
[02:51] <ebroder> in any case, yes, that's what mod_wsgi does as well
[02:51] <onehundredthirty> and mod_wsgi Depends on (only python-related): libpython2.6 (>= 2.6), python (>= 2.5), python (<< 2.7)
[02:51] <ebroder> onehundredthirty: you're looking at maverick, not natty
[02:52] <onehundredthirty> ebroder: no I'm looking at Debian Unstable :)
[02:52] <ebroder> onehundredthirty: unstable doesn't even have py2.7 yet, does it?
[02:52] <onehundredthirty> yeah, but nevertheless, mod_wsgi doesn't depends on all libpython
[02:53] <ebroder> it does in natty
[02:53] <onehundredthirty> ebroder: just on libpython for default Python
[02:55] <onehundredthirty> ebroder: I see. it really depends on all available libpython in natty. well,
[02:55] <ebroder> that's odd that it doesn't in sid, though, and seems like a bug
[02:55] <ebroder> or possibly a change in how linking in an interpreter works between py2.5 and py2.6?
[02:56] <ebroder> the mod-wsgi in experimental depends libpython2.6 and libpython2.7 but not libpython2.5
[02:56] <ebroder> i guess that's probably because there is no libpython2.5
[02:58] <onehundredthirty> ebroder: I see. yes there is definitely no libpython2.5, so this is the reason.
[03:00] <onehundredthirty> so, I will try to change my package to something like mod_wsgi with uwsgi-python2 and uwsgi-python3.
[03:01] <micahg>  \o/
[03:01] <micahg> thanks onehundredthirty
[03:01] <onehundredthirty> guess, it takes away need for separate packages for Debian and Ubuntu
[03:01] <onehundredthirty> will see
[03:02] <micahg> onehundredthirty: if you run into issues, please come back, we'll be glad to help
[03:02] <onehundredthirty> micahg: thanks, I'll do
[06:04] <slangasek> who manages revu these days?  I've tried to use it for the first time today, and it seems to think I'm not a MOTU?
[06:04] <slangasek> ah, wiki says contact an admin to be marked as a reviewer
[06:05] <slangasek> persia: can I be a REVUer?
[06:06] <persia> Absolutely.  Please log into REVU to make sure your account is initialised so I can grant you rights.
[06:08] <persia> Basic guidelines: be picky, so save the archive-admins work, be helpful, so folks can get it right.  Everyone appreciates a licensing review.
[06:10] <persia> OK.  All set.  Please review.  Be sure to advocate that which warrants it.  Best to get two pairs of eyes on things: everyone makes mistakes.
[06:11] <persia> Oh, and REVU doesn't run lintian against binaries: if you want those results, run a test-build.
[06:54] <dholbach> good morning
[13:24] <ari-tczew> mr_pouit: I guess you might be interested in bug 705734
[13:46] <ari-tczew> micahg: ping
[14:07] <pabelanger> Daviey: ping?
[14:36] <micahg> ari-tczew: [ong
[14:37] <ari-tczew> micahg: do you running natty?
[14:37] <micahg> ari-tczew: not yet
[14:37] <Daviey> pabelanger, o/
[14:37] <ari-tczew> micahg: :( I have a problem with java on natty and I'd like to get in touch with someone who has a knowledge.
[14:41] <micahg> ari-tczew: have you tried #ubuntu+1?
[14:41] <ari-tczew> micahg: perhaps in the past, but no response
[14:47] <micahg> ari-tczew: do you want to talk about it in there?
[14:47] <micahg> bdrung: ping
[14:47] <ari-tczew> micahg: place doesn't matter, I just would like to fix problem
[14:47] <bdrung> micahg: pong
[14:48] <micahg> bdrung: so, I missed the e-mail about upstream vlc EOLing the 1.0 branch, doesn't this cause an issue for us with Security support for Lucid?
[14:49] <bdrung> micahg: probably no, because backporting the fixes from the 1.1 branch used to be easy.
[14:49] <micahg> bdrung: ok, so we should let this go?
[14:50] <micahg> I guess 1.1 will stay around for a while for squeeze?
[14:50] <bdrung> micahg: upstream will EOLing 1.1 probably before squeeze EOL
[15:19] <dholbach> jdong, is the backporters team still looking for help?
[15:20] <dholbach> ScottK too: ^
[15:20] <ScottK> dholbach: Yes.
[15:21] <dholbach> ScottK, I was reaching out to some new contributors and asked about their experience - there was one who put a lot of work into backporting applications. Would it be OK if I passed him on to the team mailing list?
[15:21] <ScottK> dholbach: We don't have a team mailing list.
[15:21] <dholbach> oh, I thought that was what<EMAIL_ADDRESS>was for?
[15:22] <ScottK> It may be.  I'm not subscribed to it though.
[15:22] <dholbach> aha
[15:22] <dholbach> ok
[15:22] <ScottK> I'll clarify and say we aren't using a mailing lists.
[15:22] <ScottK> dholbach: You can suggest he give me a ping on irc or email me.
[15:22] <dholbach> sweet, thanks a lot Scott!
[15:36] <Legendario> does anyone know the answer for this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/EJ3dPfKT
[15:41] <tumbleweed> Legendario: you mustn't install to /usr/bin, the package build happens as non-root (fakeroot) and the install should happen into debian/$packagename. You can achieve this via DESTDIR
[15:51] <pabelanger> Daviey: howdy! Figured I'd try and ping you about getting more active with the Asterisk packaging.
[17:11] <pmjdebruijn> hi I'm trying to package a cmake project with debhelper 7
[17:11] <pmjdebruijn> except that it has no CMakeList in it's package root, but only in one of the subdirectories
[17:11] <pmjdebruijn> how can I point debhelper to that subdirectory
[17:15] <tumbleweed> pmjdebruijn: see --sourcedirectory in debhelper(7)
[17:16] <pmjdebruijn> ok thanks
[17:17] <tumbleweed> you might need --buildsystem too (without the CMakeList it won't autodetect cmake{
[17:20] <pmjdebruijn> but to which db_audo ?
[17:20] <pmjdebruijn> I've only override configure thus far
[17:21] <tumbleweed> to all of them. DH_OPTIONS can make that easier
[17:21] <tumbleweed> well, to all of the dh_auto_*
[17:21]  * Laney thought it was to 'dh'
[17:21] <Laney> dh $@ --buildsystem=blah --sourcedirectory=bleh
[17:22] <jpds> dh, duh.
[17:22] <tumbleweed> Laney: yes, but if he's overridding some of them
[17:22] <Laney> hmm?
[17:22] <tumbleweed> or does it pass it through? I've always passed it to dh and dh_auto_x
[17:22] <Laney> it does
[17:22] <Laney> see man dh
[17:25] <pmjdebruijn> Laney: that seems to work
[17:25] <pmjdebruijn> thanks
[17:26] <Laney> :)
[17:28] <tumbleweed> Laney: aah, it exports DH_INTERNAL_OPTIONS. Nice to know
[17:29] <Laney> I think that using DH_OPTIONS can be problematic in compat 8 mode
[17:29] <pmjdebruijn> tumbleweed: see, now we've both learned something
[17:29]  * pmjdebruijn giggles
[17:30] <tumbleweed> Laney: yes I can see that would be an issue
[17:30] <tumbleweed> pmjdebruijn: that's one of the reasons this is fun :)
[17:32] <bdrung> tumbleweed: hi, do you have time to review release-info?
[17:32] <tumbleweed> bdrung: sure, I'll look in 10 mins
[17:32] <bdrung> tumbleweed: pushed
[17:52] <hakermania> Hello guys
[17:53] <pmjdebruijn> Laney, tumbleweed thank again!
[17:55] <micahg> err, I how do I build a native package from bzr?
[17:59] <tumbleweed> micahg: easiest way is to tell bzr-builddeb that it's native. echo -e '[BUILDDEB]\nnative = True' > .bzr-builddeb/default.conf
[18:01] <micahg> no go
[18:01] <micahg> still trying to run get-orig-source
[18:02] <tumbleweed> micahg: add that file and commit it first
[18:02] <micahg> ah
[18:04] <micahg> tumbleweed: works, thanks
[18:20] <bdrung> tumbleweed: pushed.
[18:20] <bdrung> r962
[18:21] <tumbleweed> bdrung: thanks, just busy reading it
[18:24] <bdrung> tumbleweed: bug #706010
[18:39] <bdrung> tumbleweed: i'll be away for some hours. cul8r
[20:35] <c2tarun> besides bug triaging and fixing how else can we contribute to ubuntu development?
[20:39] <Daviey> pabelanger, still around?
[20:41] <tumbleweed> c2tarun: what do you have in mind? there are a lot of bugs to fix... Areas: FTBFSs, important fixes to sync/merge from debian, security issues, upstream develompent of packages, etc.
[20:42] <c2tarun> tumbleweed: actually I was wondering that by learning packaging how can i contribute?
[20:43] <tumbleweed> understanding packaging is important to solving many bugs
[20:43] <tumbleweed> and obviously rather necessary for packaging up new software
[21:01] <c2tarun> tumbleweed: solving bugs often requires good programming skills. I am not familiar with GTK programming, so most of the time I m not able to fix bugs.
[21:05] <tumbleweed> c2tarun: I'm not very familiar with GTK either (haven't written any in years). Most of the bugs I deal with day to day are either packaging issues, build failures, or simple bugs that I can fix without knowing too much about the codebase I'm fixing.
[21:06] <tumbleweed> c2tarun: harvest.ubuntu.com has a good set of things to look at
[21:06] <c2tarun> tumbleweed: Can you please give me example of any packaging issue? I really want to understand how everything works.
[21:12] <tumbleweed> c2tarun: follow the natty-changes list, see what people are doing. In natty we've had some big toolchain changes that make many packages fail to build, the fixes generally involve explicitly linking to libraries.
[21:14] <c2tarun> tumbleweed: sorry to say :( but I didn't understand most of what you said. I think I'll go through various source codes and do the fixing :)
[21:20] <c2tarun> tumbleweed: gotta go. Thanks for you help :)
[21:58] <pabelanger> Daviey: Yup
[23:20] <matttbe> Hello,
[23:20] <matttbe> I'm looking for a sponsoring about this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cairo-dock-plug-ins/+bug/704032
[23:20] <matttbe> I've proposed my branch for merging into lp:ubuntu/cairo-dock-plug-ins => https://code.launchpad.net/~cairo-dock-team/cairo-dock-plug-ins/ubuntu/+merge/46668
[23:21] <matttbe> And the (short) debdiff is available there: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/62602053/cairo-dock-plug-ins_2.2.0~4-0ubuntu4.debdiff
[23:22] <matttbe> Currently, cairo-dock won't start on Natty. It's due to libwebkit, just need to be recompiled with libwebkitgtk.
[23:22] <matttbe> Anyone can help me? :)
[23:23] <tumbleweed> matttbe: about to go to bed, so can't help you, but don't mark a bug as committed if you want anyone to look at it.
[23:24] <matttbe> tumbleweed: ok thank you
[23:24] <matttbe> tumbleweed: but which status?
[23:25] <tumbleweed> triaged is probably best
[23:25] <happyaron> anyone knows about CMake?
[23:25] <matttbe> tumbleweed: thank you
[23:25] <matttbe> tumbleweed: (except that I can't change this status :) )
[23:25] <matttbe> (to this status)
[23:26] <tumbleweed> matttbe: that merge is massive for just a rebuild
[23:26] <matttbe> tumbleweed: yes, it seems there was a problem with the branch
[23:27] <tumbleweed> ok, I recommend you delete the merge proposal then
[23:27] <matttbe> ok
[23:27] <matttbe> about the bug with the branch https://bugs.launchpad.net/udd/+bug/704694
[23:28] <tumbleweed> unfortunatly there are a few of those...
[23:32] <tumbleweed> matttbe: ok, a quick rebuild I can help with
[23:33] <matttbe> tumbleweed: thank you for your help ;)
[23:34] <tumbleweed> matttbe: editing your changelog entry to "Build-Depend on libwebkitgtk-dev instead of libwebkit-dev (LP: #704032)"
[23:35] <matttbe> tumbleweed: thank you :)
[23:36] <matttbe> tumbleweed: just another question: why can't the cairo-dock team change the importance of all bugs from "cairo-dock (Ubuntu)" and "cairo-dock-plug-ins (Ubuntu)" projects?
[23:37] <tumbleweed> matttbe: only ubuntu bugcontrol members can, distribution wide
[23:37] <matttbe> how ok :)
[23:37] <matttbe> -how
[23:40] <tumbleweed> matttbe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl
[23:43] <pabelanger> So, I'm trying to setup schroot, following: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SbuildLVMHowto
[23:44] <pabelanger> $ mk-sbuild --vg=storagevg lucid ; fails because I don't have a LVM called storagevg
[23:44] <pabelanger> if I use my local LVM, I get back the following error:
[23:44] <pabelanger>   Insufficient free extents (4) in volume group astpkglucid64: 1280 required
[23:45] <pabelanger> I don't understand what a extents is
[23:45] <ebroder> pabelanger: that means you don't have any unallocated space in the volume group
[23:45] <ebroder> it's all allocated to logical volumes
[23:45] <ebroder> it may be easier to use the aufs support - don't pass --vg, just do "mk-sbuild lucid"
[23:46] <ebroder> it'll create the chroot in /var/lib/schroot/chroots
[23:46] <pabelanger> ebroder: Okay, that looks better
[23:46] <pabelanger> Thanks, let me read up on the differences between LVM and aufs
[23:54] <matttbe> tumbleweed: thank you for your help! ;)


[00:06] <zombi-> FunnyLookinHat: Apache2 -V
[00:38] <rudyv> Hi, I'm trying to cinfugre iptables on my box to provide NAT through eth1 to eth0 (which provides DSL via PPPoE). How do I set up the rules in iptables to do that?
[00:48] <jMCg> rudyv: take a look at the ufw wiki, I think it might have something you're looking for.
[00:48] <rudyv> I got the basic NAT up with iptables.
[00:49] <rewt> rudyv, also make sure to  echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[00:49] <rudyv> I did that
[00:49] <rudyv> and set the appropriate line in sysctl.conf
[00:49] <rudyv> :D
[00:49] <rudyv> I have the rules set
[00:50] <rudyv> Accept if input = eth1 & state = established or related; accept if input = ppp0
[00:50] <rudyv> That works.
[00:50] <rewt> eth1 is your lan?
[00:50] <rudyv> Yes.
[00:52] <rewt> pastebin your iptables rules and i'll can have a look if you want
[00:52] <rudyv> Alright
[00:53] <rudyv> rewt: I'm using Webmin to configure it
[00:54] <rewt> can that give an equivalent of iptables-save ?
[00:55] <rudyv> I can get it via SSH
[00:57] <rudyv> hm
[00:57] <rudyv> pastebin isn't working from here
[00:58] <rudyv> lemme try pasteit on the server
[00:58] <rewt> try a different pastebin
[00:58] <rudyv> oh, pastebinit
[00:58] <rudyv> http://pastebin.com/9W9NnnNr
[01:00] <rewt> yeah, that's quite a bit off :/
[01:01] <rudyv> oh
[01:02] <rudyv> that probably explains why some sites take longer to load on this system
[01:04] <rudyv> rewt: What do I need to do to configure it properly?
[01:05] <rewt> here's a script that should work after you put in your details in lines 3-5:  http://pastebin.com/Nj43cGT1
[01:07] <rudyv> Well, I want to be able to set forwarded ports much like one can on a standalone router
[01:09] <rewt> for that, just add pairs of lines like this:  http://pastebin.com/Lx5YzW4j
[01:09] <rewt> err, that DROP on the end should be ALLOW
[01:09] <rewt> ACCEPT
[01:10] <rewt> http://pastebin.com/gruhhvA8
[01:10] <rewt> first line redirects it to the lan pc, second one allows it through
[01:13] <rudyv> I'm inputting the rules in the script into Webmin.
[01:20] <rudyv> Yay!
[01:20] <rudyv> I have forwarding up.
[01:25] <rudyv> Hm, some Web sites though, like my personal Web site, won't come up
[01:26] <rudyv> (nor will any on the same server)
[01:26] <jMCg> rudyv: is your personal website in you LAN?
[01:26] <rudyv> No
[01:27] <rudyv> it's on a VPS
[01:27] <rudyv> and I distinctly recall paying for it
[01:27] <jMCg> downformeor....
[01:27] <rudyv> "It's just you. rudyvalencia.com is up."
[01:28] <rudyv> Finally it's come up, albeit extremely slow.
[01:59] <RudyValencia> hey
[02:08] <RudyValencia> Why would browsing to some sites be slower than to others if I have my Linux box providing NAT access to my DSL for my LAN?
[02:17] <RudyValencia> OK
[02:19] <RudyValencia> Why am I having problems with some sites with NAT provided by my Linux system?
[02:23] <jmarsden> RudyValencia: Make sure you log everything your packet filtering setup drops, and then read your logs.  Sounds like you are blocking some traffic that you want to allow through?
[02:26] <RudyValencia> I'm trying to set up IPtables rules to provide NAT on my server
[02:43] <jeeves__> how do I go about setting up SA-LEARN on my Dovecot box with virtual e-mail boxes that are mapped in MySQL?
[03:27] <Derptron> Hi, I'm wanting to use oprofile and need an uncompressed vmlinux. Does anyone have any experience doing this? I can't find any documentation on how to acquire/setup one.
[03:28] <Derptron> (I'd use --no-vmlinux but the given process is spending 20% of its time in "--no-vmlinux", so I need to better isolate what it's doing.
[03:30] <luite> hmm, last time I needed one (for booting with an old xen version), I rebuilt the whole kernel
[03:32] <Derptron> I need to somehow do this with minimal to no downtime or performance decrease, as the server has >50 users connected at any given moment.
[03:33] <luite> I used another (faster) system to build the kernel and just copied the vmlinux file over :)
[03:33] <Derptron> I was hoping ubuntu 10.04 LTS might have a package that already contains debug symbols etc
[03:33] <Derptron> hmm, wonder if I could do that
[03:33] <luite> I'd be interested in that as well, would save me some time the next time
[03:43] <Derptron> luite: We may be able to use these in the future, although they should probably be documented or included in apt. http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/
[03:45] <luite> hmm, interesting, thanx
[03:45] <luite> thanks
[03:45] <luite> huge files :)
[06:20] <RefaelAlats> hola, am attempting to do a RFC Bridging for a Actiontec Modem to a WRT54G2 Router, & am in hopes various persons might be able to assist for references to certain things
[06:21] <RefaelAlats> the modem gateway is <IP_ADDRESS> & the Router Gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>, though the Modem displays Address <IP_ADDRESS> for reasons unknown
[06:21] <RefaelAlats> & the hopes are to Bridge the couple devices to enable Port Forwarding from the WRT54G2
[07:12] <FernandoTertiary> can anybody assist with bridging a modem & a router?
[07:13] <FernandoTertiary> online sites do not help, & the manuals do not cover the topic
[10:13] <JonathanC> Hello. I'm trying to install a Ubuntu 10.04.2 server for a dev server on a very old laptop (it uses a Xircom Realport card, no built-in port) but though that card loads and works in the installer, it doesn't work in the installed system.
[10:13] <JonathanC> How should I troubleshoot this?
[11:15] <Keatonguy> I need info on how to build a proxy server. I already have an ubuntu server machine running on another network, but I don't know what software to use.
[11:21] <Ethos> anyone experienced with setting up PPTPD? Or could recommend something easier to setup?
[12:46] <RoyK> Keatonguy: apt-get install squid
[12:47] <teaforthecat> hello, would someone like to help debug an install?
[12:49] <pmatulis> !ask | teaforthecat
[12:54] <teaforthecat> ok thanks; I swapped out a hard drive from a broken machine; ubuntu 8.04server boots fine; the only issue is no ethernet is picked up. Would there be a way to force ubuntu to see the nic? I put e1000(intel pro nic) in /etc/modules, but no luck.
[12:56] <RoyK> teaforthecat: probably interface naming - type 'ifconfig -a'
[12:56] <teaforthecat> ifconfig -a gives lo only
[12:56] <RoyK> hm...
[12:56] <RoyK> not udev, then
[12:56] <teaforthecat> ifup eth0 gives: no device found
[12:57] <RoyK> what does lshw has to say?
[12:57] <RoyK> s/has/have/
[12:58] <teaforthecat> lspci says Ethernet Connection Intel Pro (100/1000)
[12:58] <pmatulis> teaforthecat: try 'lspci -vvnn' for more info
[12:59] <RoyK> teaforthecat: if it's a new card, it can have a new PCI ID, which the old driver in 8.04 won't recognize
[12:59] <RoyK> iirc the only way to fix that, is to fix the driver
[12:59] <teaforthecat> do you mean recompile the e1000 module?
[12:59] <RoyK> I don't think you can tie a driver to a PCI ID not known by the driver
[12:59] <RoyK> yes
[13:00] <RoyK> in the source, there are PCI IDs listed
[13:00] <RoyK> and as new versions of NICs are released, they are given new PCI IDs
[13:01] <exekias> has anyone experienced problems updating from security ppa for lucid?
[13:02] <teaforthecat> so on the install of ubuntu on the broken machine was the e1000 module compiled?
[13:02] <RoyK> was it the same card?
[13:02] <teaforthecat> no
[13:03] <RoyK> probably something supported, then
[13:04] <RoyK> the first thing I thought about, was udev, ubuntu ties eth0 to the mac address, so when changing a NIC, the old name is left and the new is named eth1
[13:04] <RoyK> etc
[13:04] <RoyK> but if ifconfig -a only shows lo, that's not your issue
[13:04] <teaforthecat> that is good to know
[13:05] <RoyK> ifconfig will only list interfaces that are up - ifconfig -a should list all
[13:05] <teaforthecat> could there be a module that is loading before e1000 that is interfering?
[13:05] <RoyK> not really
[13:06] <RoyK> 13:58 < pmatulis> teaforthecat: try 'lspci -vvnn' for more info
[13:06] <RoyK> did you try this?
[13:07] <teaforthecat> I'm sorry I'm not at the machine, maybe I will come back later when I am(it is at work)
[13:08] <RoyK> k
[13:08] <teaforthecat> but, would the module e1000 fail silently?
[13:08] <RoyK> you may want to try to boot it up on a lucid cd
[13:08] <RoyK> just to see if that can see the nic
[13:09] <RoyK> teaforthecat: the e1000 module is loaded when the kernel finds a PCI ID match. if it's a new card, the PCI ID won't be in kernel, and the module isn't loaded
[13:09] <teaforthecat> I tried a maverick cd, but I should also try a lucid?
[13:09] <RoyK> did maverick see the card?
[13:09] <teaforthecat> yes it worked
[13:10] <RoyK> ok, then that's the problem
[13:10] <RoyK> either upgrade to lucid (if you want to stay on LTS) or get another NIC
[13:10] <teaforthecat> that is the answer; that is awesome; so an upgrade from a lucid cd should solve it?
[13:11] <RoyK> hm... dunno
[13:11] <RoyK> I've never upgraded with a CD
[13:11] <RoyK> can't you just get another NIC for the upgrade?
[13:12] <RoyK> anyway - to reset the udev stuff, just rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[13:12] <teaforthecat> oh just install a pci ethernet card?
[13:12] <RoyK> you want to do that anyway
[13:12] <RoyK> yes
[13:12] <pmatulis> teaforthecat: you should really identify your card (PCI id like RoyK referred to).  the lspci command you were given twice will give it to you
[13:12] <teaforthecat> awesome I will try to reset the rules too
[13:13] <RoyK> pmatulis: and as he said, he's not at the office where the machine sits...
[13:14] <teaforthecat> but the idea is that I should tie the output of lspci -vnn to a particular module right?
[13:16] <teaforthecat> I did verify that e1000 is the module that I'm looking for because it covers all intel nics
[13:17] <teaforthecat> Royk: thanks for the help
[13:33] <JanC> e1000 is for Intel PCI NICs, Intel PCIE NICs use e1000e...
[14:06] <RoyK> JanC: are you sure?
[14:15] <JanC> RoyK: that's what I see being loaded for PCIE Intel NICs at least...
[14:16] <JanC> I think both drivers share some code though
[14:22] <JanC> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/networking/e1000e.txt;h=97b5ba942ebf847781fbd2e0f2526d7b92646135;hb=HEAD --> most PCIE are e1000e, except for some specific models
[14:34] <heirenton> I have problem with my new ubuntu vps. I installed ubuntu-server and everthing looks working fine but there is no internet connection... I cant ssh to it or from vnc i cant ping any web adress or ip. I reboot it and restarted network services. eth0 look working correctly. bump... does anyone show me a way to pinpoint the problem?
[14:36] <smw> shouldn't the vps come setup with networking and ssh?
[14:38] <heirenton> I am new to vps stuff. I use ubuntu all the time for my local server etc. They told me that after installing ubuntu to vps through vnc ssh and networking should work. but it is not working. i wrote a support ticket but in the meantime i am checking if i am making a mistake on my side.
[14:39] <RoyK> heirenton: where did you get this vps?
[14:39] <RoyK> heirenton: also, is ssh installed? or a webserver?
[14:40] <heirenton> RoyK: Host House... Ssh is installed and it is working. I can ssh to localhost on vnc. Do i need web server for ssh or internet access. Because without internet access i cant update of install anything to ubuntu
[14:41] <RoyK> no need for webserver for that
[14:41] <RoyK> if you can't ssh in, a firewall may be blocking
[14:41] <RoyK> ask the provider
[14:42] <heirenton> RoyK: I asked already. But as i said i am checking if missing something. I am new to vps stuff. :) Thanks by the way.
[14:42] <rewt> did you configure the networking?
[14:42] <luite> is the network configured properly?
[14:42] <luite> hehe
[14:42] <RoyK> have you configured the network correctly?
[14:42] <rewt> they should've given you the network settings to configure
[14:44] <shauno> I tend to expect a sane working config on a new vps.  but finding an issue right off the bat isn't always a bad thing.  it's a great chance to find out if they're worth the price before you're too vested in them
[14:44] <heirenton> rewt: Uhmm. They didn't give me any network configuration. But in their confirmation mail they said that after installing ubuntu to the server, i could ssh to it. But i can't... When i checked the dns through nslookup i see google dns is configured. I assume they have that configuration inside ubuntu install.
[14:44] <heirenton> shauno: I aggree.
[14:45] <RoyK> heirenton: you obviously need to configure the network somehow...
[14:45] <rewt> heirenton, did you install ubuntu from scratch, or was it pre-installed?
[14:46] <rewt> if it wasn't pre-installed, you have to tell it at least the ip & gateway to use
[14:46] <RoyK> unless the provider uses static dhcp...
[14:46] <rewt> well, yeah
[14:46] <RoyK> heirenton: is there an ip returned ifconfig? if so, does this look sane?
[14:47] <RoyK> s/returned/returned by/
[14:47] <heirenton> RoyK: yes.
[14:47] <RoyK> cna you ping something from the server?
[14:47] <heirenton> it gives me the ip of the server
[14:47] <heirenton> RoyK: nope. Neither adress nor ip. I cant ping anything
[14:48] <JanC> heirenton: how do you get that IP address?
[14:48] <RoyK> does netstat -rn show a default gateway?
[14:48] <heirenton> JanC: They emailed it to me for ssh to the server.
[14:49] <JanC> heirenton: I mean, how does the server got it, DHCP or you set it manually?
[14:49] <heirenton> JanC: I think it is dhcp because i didn't set it up.
[14:50] <RoyK> heirenton: check netstat -rn
[14:50] <heirenton> RoyK: netstat gives two results for eth0. First is <IP_ADDRESS> to gateway <IP_ADDRESS> genmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:51] <heirenton> second is <IP_ADDRESS> dest to <IP_ADDRESS> gateway
[14:51] <RoyK> can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[14:51] <heirenton> RoyK: Nope. Host unreachable.
[14:51] <RoyK> call the provider, then
[14:52] <RoyK> ask for correct network config
[14:52] <rewt> lol @ ptr for that ip
[14:53] <heirenton> RoyK: Ok. :) I thought it wasn't about me but it is better to be sure. Thanks everyone.
[14:57] <JanC> rewt: heh, the same (default) PTR for all their clients?
[14:58] <rewt> probably
[16:23] <FernandoTertiary> hola, am bridging a modem to router, & using transparent bridging. the modem address is <IP_ADDRESS> & the router address is <IP_ADDRESS>. What should the router address be manually set to initially for Bridge priori Transparent bridge is established?
[16:25] <qman__> FernandoTertiary, when your modem is switched into bridge mode, the device directly connected to it will have your internet IP
[16:25] <qman__> if you have a dynamic address from your ISP, use a DHCP configuration, otherwise it's the static IP your ISP gave you
[16:26] <FernandoTertiary> qman__: in other words, the router adopts the modem address?
[16:27] <qman__> basically
[16:27] <FernandoTertiary> qman__: does Ubuntu have a bridging tutorial?
[16:27] <qman__> well, unless ubuntu is your modem, you don't want to bridge on ubuntu
[16:27] <FernandoTertiary> the modem & router manuals do not cover that infomation
[16:28] <qman__> you want to bridge on the modem
[16:28] <qman__> and then route with the next device, which I am guessing is ubuntu
[16:29] <FernandoTertiary> qman__: the page http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14709801 was referenced, though does not display step a step instructions
[16:38] <ujjain> Does Ubuntu Cloud allow to make such an environment as Amazon AC2?
[16:50] <ujjain> Is the Cloud an effective way to host high-volume sites?
[16:54] <pmatulis> ujjain: it's meant to answer the need of increasing and decreasing resources quickly
[16:55] <pmatulis> ujjain: like a tap of water
[16:57] <ujjain> Yes, seems pretty scalable.
[16:57] <ujjain> although it does not provide a raid-like storage, does it?
[16:57] <ujjain> if I have 3 servers with 1x1TB raid1.
[16:57] <ujjain> for storage, it will not become faster than 90MB per second, will it?
[17:00] <qman__> clouds are intended for much larger scales than three servers
[17:00] <qman__> you won't see any benefit
[17:01] <qman__> only reason to run one on that small of a scale is as a testing environment, before you load your application on a real cloud
[17:09] <RoyK> ujjain: the cloud is, imho, a good way to host servers if you don't have infrastructure yourself. If you do, however, it'll probably be cheaper in the long run
[17:10] <RoyK> ujjain: servers are cheap these days, and with Amazon's pricing, you can probably setup a rather nice and redundant system for less money, at least if the system is cpu/network intensive
[17:11] <qman__> could is a good technology, but it's also very niche
[17:12] <ujjain> RoyK: I run VMWare ESXi
[17:12] <qman__> I know it has the current solve everything buzzword effect, but you have to have a specific need to make use of it
[17:14] <RoyK> ujjain: then why bother with the "could"?
[17:14] <RoyK> or "cloud"
[17:14] <qman__> lol, whoops
[17:15] <RoyK> "servers in the fog"
[17:21] <FernandoTertius> qman__: maneuvered a modem to router bridge, though now the modem page <IP_ADDRESS> is no more visible
[17:21] <FernandoTertius> it is configured for Transparent Bridging
[17:21] <qman__> FernandoTertius, precisely
[17:21] <qman__> now the next device in line is directly connected to the internet
[17:22] <FernandoTertius> ah, & there is no way to enter that modem config utility any more?
[17:22] <qman__> there is, but it typically only works if the modem is offline
[17:22] <FernandoTertius> ahh
[17:22] <FernandoTertius> qman__: gracias amigo
[17:22] <qman__> the modem doesn't have any influence anymore, it just connects the two lines and that's it
[17:24] <FernandoTertius> qman__: does Filter Internet NAT Redirection enable NAT? or disable NAT?
[17:24] <FernandoTertius> it does not specifically suggest "Enable" or "Disable"
[17:25] <qman__> couldn't tell you, you'd have to look up your device in specific
[17:25] <qman__> to see what that actually does on it
[17:28] <FernandoTertius> qman__: forgive the questions, though does Filter Internet NAT Redirection  This feature uses
[17:28] <FernandoTertius> port forwarding to block access to local servers from
[17:28] <FernandoTertius> local networked computers. Select Filter Internet NAT
[17:28] <FernandoTertius> Redirection to filter Internet NAT redirection. This feature
[17:28] <FernandoTertius> is not selected by default" mean turn it on or no?
[17:29] <RoyK> FernandoTertius: the way your router works, isn't really related to ubuntu
[18:15] <teaforthecat> :RoyK the module rebuild worked, the new machine is online with the hard drive from the old machine, thanks for the suggestion
[18:15] <RoyK> :)
[18:19] <qman__> I ran into the same thing on my file server, bought a new NIC to replace the burned out one and it wouldn't work. I ended up upgrading to lucid
[18:19]  * RoyK listens to Rammstein - LOAD
[18:25] <iceflatline> Rammstein!? Perfect.
[18:26] <RoyK> Rammstein ist gut...
[18:32] <FernandoTertius> qman__: when a router is bridged to a modem & the router is the gateway, is each machine within the network then a Router?
[18:42] <sw0rdfish> grrrr! why can't I send my sysadmin a letter!
[18:43] <sw0rdfish> maybe i should use "mail" instead of alpine
[18:51] <FernandoTertiary> hola, am curious if a bridged router should be set to Router or Gateway
[19:03] <qman__> FernandoTertiary, the router is not bridged, the modem is
[19:04] <qman__> and, all computers are always routers, that's just basic internet protocol
[19:04] <FernandoTertiary> ok, does that mean the router is the gateway?
[19:05] <FernandoTertiary> or can the router still be set to router mode?
[19:06] <qman__> yes
[19:07] <luite> FernandoTertiary: if it's a bridge, then you don't need any IP configuration for it, use the gateway that you'd use at the other side
[19:08] <luite> linux computers can perfectly be configured as bridge by the way
[19:10] <FernandoTertiary> luite: am attempting to prove open tcp/udp ports with port forwarding, though when attempting to access the specific page with port, it gives error 404
[19:10] <FernandoTertiary> though the dyndns page displays open
[19:11] <qman__> most residential ISPs block common ports
[19:11] <luite> FernandoTertiary: hmm, a 404 error means that at least the connection is coming through. Is it really a 404 error, served by your web server?
[19:11] <qman__> such as 25, 80, and 443
[19:12] <FernandoTertiary> luite: not certain what you mean, though the address http://refael.dyndns-work.com displays "It Works!", though with ":9000" it gives "knomes" page, not certain the reason
[19:13] <qman__> most routers which have that mode option, 'gateway' mode is for being a gateway to the internet, 'router' mode is when you have it connected to other routers for a more complex network structure
[19:13] <FernandoTertiary> am attempting to prove http://refael.dyndns-work.com:9000 with a "It Works!" page
[19:13] <luite> FernandoTertiary: doen't work from here at the moment, have you turned off the server?
[19:15] <FernandoTertiary> luite: forgive, ufw was inactive
[19:15] <FernandoTertiary> attempt to connect a second time if you would por favor
[19:17] <luite> doesn't work... is the url correct?
[19:17] <FernandoTertiary> luite: are you suggesting neither work?
[19:18] <luite> yeah... can't connect to either of them
[19:18] <FernandoTertiary> tcp/udp are open
[19:18] <FernandoTertiary> permit time to prove nmap displays open
[19:18] <luite> this is your ip address? refael.dyndns-work.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:19] <FernandoTertiary> no, that is not the address
[19:20] <luite> oh fix that first :p
[19:20] <FernandoTertiary> & nmap shows open|filtered
[19:22] <FernandoTertiary> actually, not certain why, though the WAN is altering frequently
[19:23] <FernandoTertiary> though nmap still displays filtered tcp & open|filtered udp
[19:25] <luite> can't you give the ip address instead? if you can connect to the ip address then you know at least that your network setup is ok
[19:25] <FernandoTertiary> luite: should VPN Pass through be enabled?
[19:25] <luite> probably not
[19:26] <FernandoTertiary> http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[19:26] <luite> that can't be correct :)
[19:26] <virusuy> hi all, grettings from Uruguay in South America
[19:27] <luite> since that's a private ip address
[19:27] <FernandoTertiary> http://<IP_ADDRESS> is the WAN
[19:30] <luite> FernandoTertiary: oh ok, so the dyndns was correct
[19:30] <FernandoTertiary> yes
[19:31] <FernandoTertiary> it pertains the nmap WAN not proving open tcp/udp ports
[19:31] <luite> FernandoTertiary: but what's your network configuration?  you have a modem and a bridge?
[19:31] <FernandoTertiary> the actiontec modem is has Transparent Bridge to Linksys WRT54G2
[19:32] <luite> oh I think I see now. so your Linksys has the public IP address on its WAN port right?
[19:34] <FernandoTertiary> luite: that is what the Status page displays, yes
[19:35] <FernandoTertiary> luite: though local network displays address <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:35] <luite> hmm, that's a bit strange. all your computers are connected to the LAN ports on the Linksys?
[19:36] <FernandoTertiary> it is just a single machine connected
[19:36] <Duvrazh> Can someone help me troubleshoot a read-only problem with my Samba when the read only option is set to false?
[19:37] <FernandoTertiary> though the gateway is displaying <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:37] <FernandoTertiary> luite: is that typical for loopback configuration?
[19:38] <luite> FernandoTertiary: I'd expect a gateway for route <IP_ADDRESS>, can you post a screenshot of the network configuration page?
[19:39] <luite> or maybe some page with a configuration overview, or current status. the one with the most info :)
[19:45] <FernandoTertiary> luite: there is a local status, & a router status
[19:45] <qman__> Duvrazh, samba uses 'yes' and 'no', not 'true' and 'false'
[19:45] <Duvrazh> correction: it's set to no
[19:45] <qman__> also, check the filesystem permissions on said files and directories, as the user that they authenticate with must have write permission there too
[19:46] <Duvrazh> would I need to chmod the directory to 777? it's on my private network so security is not a concern
[19:46] <qman__> no, you would need to make the user or group that they authenticate with have permission
[19:46] <FernandoTertiary> http://imagebin.org/156761
[19:46] <qman__> 777 is rarely if ever the right solution
[19:47] <Duvrazh> qman: a moment to post the setup, I would like your recommendation on how to go about this
[19:47] <Duvrazh> Server running samba on my entire raid, the samba is JUST to allow my Windows machine to place files there. These files will be access through Twonky and streamed out to an Apple Tv, a PS3, and a WD TV Live
[19:48] <Duvrazh> and I have little to no exp in this area...
[19:48] <qman__> are you authenticating successfully? as in, you can read existing files?
[19:48] <FernandoTertiary> luite: the imagebin page reflects Router Status
[19:48] <qman__> just not create new ones?
[19:48] <Duvrazh> I can read/write to my home folder, but the raid array is readonly for some reason
[19:48] <Duvrazh> yes
[19:49] <luite> FernandoTertiary: wich page?
[19:49] <qman__> ok
[19:49] <qman__> the best solution here
[19:49] <qman__> is to chown or chgrp the share you want to write to, to your user
[19:49] <qman__> if you're the only user
[19:49] <FernandoTertiary> luite: http://imagebin.org/156761 is Router Status screenshot
[19:49] <Duvrazh> my share is /media/raid
[19:49] <luite> FernandoTertiary: oh sorry missed it :)
[19:49] <Duvrazh> I'm the only user yes
[19:49] <qman__> otherwise, create a group, chgrp to that group, and add all users to that group
[19:50] <qman__> then, chmod u+w (or g+w) the share
[19:50] <Duvrazh> chown, what will that do?
[19:50] <qman__> 777 doesn't just mean all human users, it means everyone, including system daemons, which is high risk even for accidental things
[19:50] <luite> FernandoTertiary: wan config looks ok, and I can ping the address
[19:50] <qman__> chown changes the owner, chgrp changes the group-owner
[19:51] <FernandoTertiary> luite: what address specifically?
[19:51] <luite> <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:51] <qman__> you also probably want the -R option, to recursively apply the changes
[19:51] <qman__> since you have files already
[19:52] <qman__> ls -l shows the current permissions and owners
[19:52] <luite> FernandoTertiary: can you shwo the "Local Network" status page?
[19:52] <FernandoTertiary> luite: am unable to connect to http://<IP_ADDRESS> from local connection
[19:52] <luite> FernandoTertiary: that's ok
[19:53] <luite> FernandoTertiary: at least, it's expected :)
[19:54] <FernandoTertiary> luite: http://imagebin.org/156762 is the LocalNetStatus page
[19:54] <Duvrazh> i'll take a couple minutes to try your suggestions, thank you
[19:54] <qman__> Duvrazh, if you need a more detailed explanation of how permissions and ownership work, try the man pages for chown and chmod
[19:55] <Duvrazh> ls -l of my array's folder drwx------ 2 root root 16384 2011-06-04 16:15 lost+found
[19:55] <Duvrazh> lost+found being the only folder in there (just installed the server a few hours ago)
[19:56] <qman__> you actually want ls -l /media
[19:56] <qman__> that will tell you the permissions of the parent
[19:56] <Duvrazh>  drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2011-06-04 16:19 cdrom drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2011-06-04 16:15 raid
[19:56] <qman__> yep
[19:56] <luite> FernandoTertiary: ok looks ok as well. looks like the only things you need to add are port forwards for port 80 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 80, and port 9000 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 9000
[19:57] <qman__> root's the only one allowed to write there
[19:57] <Duvrazh> so the array is owned by root
[19:57] <Duvrazh> so chown to my user account?
[19:57] <qman__> so chown or chgrp to you
[19:57] <Duvrazh> okay
[19:57] <qman__> then ensure you have write
[19:57] <Duvrazh>  drwxr-xr-x 3 duvrazh root 4096 2011-06-04 16:15 raid
[19:58] <FernandoTertiary> luite: why port 80?
[19:58] <qman__> yep, should be able to create files now
[19:58] <Duvrazh> is it necessary to restart samba
[19:58] <qman__> not in this case
[19:58] <Duvrazh> hey it worked great
[19:58] <luite> FernandoTertiary: oh unless you don't want http://refael.dyndns-work.com/ to work
[19:58] <qman__> filesystem level permissions take effect immedately
[19:59] <Duvrazh> Thanks qman, two thumbs up
[20:00] <FernandoTertiary> luite: ok, that is accomplished
[20:02] <FernandoTertiary> luite: the Linksys already has a Dyndns configuration intrinsic to the configuration
[20:03] <luite> FernandoTertiary: still doesn't work here :(
[20:03] <FernandoTertiary> could it be a result from the firewall?
[20:03] <luite> FernandoTertiary: yes
[20:03] <Duvrazh> what's the mdadm command that will show you what the progress of building array in percent?
[20:03] <luite> FernandoTertiary: try to disable firewalls on <IP_ADDRESS> first
[20:04] <FernandoTertiary> ufw is configured to prove the ports open, though it displays "filtered" au lieu
[20:04] <luite> try ufw disable just to test
[20:04] <FernandoTertiary> luite: ok, accomplished
[20:05] <luite> still nothing
[20:06] <luite> you can reach http://<IP_ADDRESS>:9000/ on your local network right?
[20:07] <FernandoTertiary> nmap for LAN displays 9000/tcp open, though 9000/udp open|filtered
[20:08] <luite> you only need tcp for http
[20:08] <FernandoTertiary> priori it displayed 9000 tcp/udp just open
[20:08] <qman__> Duvrazh, actually not an mdadm command, cat /proc/mdstat
[20:08] <FernandoTertiary> & a loopback
[20:08] <qman__> you can also watch /proc/mdstat if you want auto refresh
[20:08] <Duvrazh> naw just needed a one time
[20:09] <Duvrazh> found a good one though, mdadm --detail /dev/md0   (needed to see the rebuild %)
[20:09] <Duvrazh> Thank you qman
[20:09] <FernandoTertiary> the WAN displays 9000/tcp filtered
[20:09] <FernandoTertiary> luite:
[20:10] <FernandoTertiary> luite: is port triggering necessary?
[20:10] <luite> FernandoTertiary: no
[20:10] <luite> just forwarding
[20:11] <FernandoTertiary> ok, disabled port triggering
[20:11] <FernandoTertiary> though the direct to port does not display still
[20:12] <luite> can you show the page where you made the port forwarding settings?
[20:13] <FernandoTertiary> luite: http://imagebin.org/156765
[20:15] <luite> FernandoTertiary: you just need TCP, but other than that, it looks ok
[20:15] <FernandoTertiary> actually, need udp as well, because it is for a loopback configuration to connect to a server
[20:16] <luite> hmm? HTTP doesn't use UDP at all
[20:17] <FernandoTertiary> does HTTPS?
[20:17] <luite> no, still TCP, but a different port (443 is the default port)
[20:17] <FernandoTertiary> what uses UDP?
[20:18] <luite> lots of other things, DNS, some streaming media stuff, online games
[20:25] <FernandoTertiary> luite: it is for a OpenSim Server
[20:25] <robos> hello: does anyone know how to disable the update manager?
[20:25] <robos> i see connections it's trying to make but the firewall is dropping it
[20:25] <robos> so i'd like to disable it
[20:25] <FernandoTertiary> luite: & the WAN tcp port displays "Filtered" status
[20:27] <luite> FernandoTertiary: but if you go to http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ in your browser, does it work?
[20:28] <FernandoTertiary> luite: yes, it works
[20:30] <luite> FernandoTertiary: if you've disabled ufw, and you still have those port forwards, I'd check the other pages for security options in the linksys config
[20:32] <FernandoTertiary> luite: the single feature in Security is "Block WAN Requests" and all are enabled
[20:33] <luite> dunno what it means, but try disabling it :p
[20:34] <FernandoTertiary> luite: feature is already disabled
[20:39] <FernandoTertiary> luite: look at the ifconfig http://pastebin.com/BntdkJHt
[20:40] <luite> FernandoTertiary: that looks ok
[20:40] <FernandoTertiary> luite: anything else that would perhaps be an assistance to observe?
[20:40] <luite> FernandoTertiary: you could add route -n, but that's probably ok if you can access the internet from that machine
[20:41] <FernandoTertiary> luite: ifconfig -n?
[20:42] <FernandoTertiary> -n: Unknown host
[20:42] <FernandoTertiary> luite: that -n: Unknown host is potentially a problem and should be corrected
[20:44] <luite> FernandoTertiary: route -n
[20:45] <FernandoTertiary> luite: yes, did ifconfig route -n & it returned -n: Unknown host
[20:45] <luite> FernandoTertiary: just route -n, no ifconfig, it's a different program
[20:46] <FernandoTertiary> ah, ok
[20:49] <FernandoTertiary> luite: http://pastebin.com/fG9rCHCm displays the results
[20:51] <luite> yeah that's ok... otherwise you wouldn't be able to access the internet from that machine anyway...
[20:51] <luite> FernandoTertiary: can you access http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ now by the way?
[20:53] <FernandoTertiary> luite: no
[20:53] <FernandoTertiary> luite: would you suggest the problems with the config pertain the DHCP settings being disabled?
[20:54] <FernandoTertiary> with congruence to the modem bridge & the router?
[20:55] <luite> FernandoTertiary: nah, a static IP for your server should be ok
[20:58] <FernandoTertiary> luite: what about host & domain name for Router Status?
[21:00] <luite> FernandoTertiary: nah it's probably some problem with the forwarding in the linksys, or a firewall issue with the server. if your linksys allows requests to your wan address to be forwarded back to your lan, then you should be able to view http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ from your own network
[21:00] <FernandoTertiary> luite: because the dsl is default DHCP & the Static is coded, does the Host & Domain need to be configured?
[21:02] <luite> nah you should make it work for the IP address first, that should work without a hostname
[21:06] <FernandoTertiary> luite: are you able to see http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[21:07] <luite>  FernandoTertiary: no, that's an address that only exists in your local network
[21:07] <FernandoTertiary> luite: what about http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:07] <FernandoTertiary> ?
[21:08] <luite> nope, stil doesn't work
[21:09] <FernandoTertiary> luite: what about http://refael.dyndns-work.com/ ?
[21:10] <luite> no that still resolves to the same address, so that doesn't work either
[21:10] <FernandoTertiary> it works locally
[21:10] <luite> what does # host rafael.dyndns-work.com   say?
[21:11] <FernandoTertiary> que?
[21:11] <luite> if you run that in your terminal
[21:12] <FernandoTertiary> refael.dyndns-work.com has address <IP_ADDRESS> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[21:15] <luite> FernandoTertiary: hmm, strange... so you say http://refael.dyndns-work.com/ works, but http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ doesn't, from your own network?
[21:16] <luite> FernandoTertiary: what doesn't work by the way, do you get an error page from apache?
[21:16] <luite> or a message from the browser saying that it could not connect
[21:20] <FernandoTertiary> luite: perhaps it pertains Dyndns settings within the router, because the refael.dyndns-work.com works, though the direct Address does not
[21:22] <luite> FernandoTertiary: what's the type of error you get?
[21:24] <FernandoTertiary> luite: the connection continues to attempt for a time, then displays "Page not found"
[21:24] <virusuy> but can you access using LAN ip server?¡
[21:25] <luite> FernandoTertiary: is that literally waht it says? can you post a screenshot?
[21:28] <luite> FernandoTertiary: amd check that the WAN IP hasn't changed in the meantime
[21:28] <virusuy> wich port are you using FernandoTertiary ?
[21:28] <luite> 80 and 9000
[21:28] <virusuy> 9000 for wich service?
[21:29] <ReshAyin_> luite: forgive, though enabled DHCP to test, then disabled it, so the address proves different posteri alteration
[21:29] <virusuy> FernandoTertius: wich specific problem do you have?
[21:29] <luite> ReshAyin_: that's only your local address probably
[21:29] <luite> ReshAyin_: a static ip address for your server should really work fin
[21:30] <luite> e
[21:31] <FernandoTertiary> am still in chat
[21:31] <luite> yes
[21:31] <FernandoTertiary> not certain why it gave "quit" message
[21:37] <FernandoTertiary> luite: should static routing be configured then?
[21:40] <luite> FernandoTertiary: you don't need extra static routes
[21:40] <FernandoTertiary> Dynamic Routing enables the Router to automatically adjust to physical changes in the network layout and exchange routing tables with other routers.
[21:40] <FernandoTertiary> Dynamic Routing should be enabled & configured for connectivity?
[21:40] <luite> no
[21:40] <FernandoTertiary> what about configuring Static Routing?
[21:40] <luite> the routes you already have should be enough
[21:41] <luite> FernandoTertiary: what you can to is go to Applications & Gaming, then choose DMZ, and set the DMZ address to <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:44] <FernandoTertiary> http://imagebin.org/156783
[21:44] <FernandoTertiary> luite: look to that pastebin
[21:44] <luite> you don't need extra routes
[21:45] <luite> if you can access the internet from your server, then the routes are ok
[21:45] <FernandoTertiary> luite: The Port Forwarding feature is more secure because it only opens the ports you want to have opened, while DMZ hosting opens all the ports of one computer, exposing the computer so the Internet can see it.
[21:47] <luite> FernandoTertiary: I know
[21:52] <FernandoTertiary> luite: then do not wish to open DMZ
[21:52] <luite> but I thought it might be best to make it work first, and then secure :p
[21:54] <lwizardl> hello
[21:54] <virusuy> FernandoTertiary: just open 80 and 9000 doing a port forwarding to your local Server
[21:54] <virusuy> lwizardl: hi
[21:54] <lwizardl> anyone here know much about cpanel ? I am using it on my ubuntu server and need some serious help
[22:01] <FernandoTertiary> luite: the local address & the router address won't permit the connection
[22:02] <FernandoTertiary> the router address can't align with the local
[22:02] <FernandoTertiary> is that not correct?
[22:02] <luite> no idea what you mean by that
[22:03] <FernandoTertiary> the attempt is to connect to the WAN, though that pertains the router address, & the port forwards pertain the local address
[22:03] <FernandoTertiary> thus advanced routing needs to be configured to align the router & the local addresses
[22:03] <luite> uh no, that shouldn't be necessary
[22:04] <virusuy> FernandoTertiary: if you port forward to your local apache server, when you point to your WAN IP will forward the request to your local server
[22:04] <luite> FernandoTertiary:  advanced routing is for adding static routes that the router must know about, for example if you had another 192.168.2.x network
[22:05] <FernandoTertiary> though such is a static route that the router should comprehend, since it is not configured within the router
[22:05] <luite> FernandoTertiary: but in your situation, with only the 192.168.1.x network that the router already knows about, you don't need to add extra routes
[22:06] <FernandoTertiary> luite: then why is start & end addresses <IP_ADDRESS>?
[22:06] <FernandoTertiary> on the local status map
[22:08] <luite> FernandoTertiary: that's because DHCP is disabled
[22:08] <luite> if you had enabled DHCP there, those would be the lowest and highest IP address that the DHCP server could assign
[22:43] <qwebirc106043> Can someone please help me with ubuntu - Postfix? My SMTP server is not working. It's like its no longer connecting to my ISP's relay host
[22:45] <lwizardl> I need some serious help with a server issue lately. I own a server that is running Cpanel 11.28.87 and having the WHM enabled on my account. I was nice enough to host a site for someone and made them a separate login to cpanel and now I need to get into that account to backup content to turn over to the owner. Does anyone here know how as the WHM admin can I gain access to the filesystem account to backup both the DB and file s
[22:45] <lwizardl> ystem? I am the reseller, and the other account is under me
[22:50] <cocoa117> anyone know how to make xen-pci frontend driver for Ubuntu lucid ?
[22:52] <JanC> lwizardl: that sounds more like a question to ask to the cpanel support people, you're paying them after all...
[22:53] <lwizardl> JanC, i have tried to contact my host and no luck for 2 weeks
[22:54] <lwizardl> so now its my time to find out for myself
[22:54] <JanC> eh
[22:54] <lwizardl> i know i can suspend the account but not wanting to do that really
[22:55] <lwizardl> and yes i am looking for a new host asap
[22:56] <JanC> is this a dedicated server or VPS?
[22:56] <lwizardl> shared i think
[22:56] <JanC> do you have ssh access?
[22:57] <lwizardl> from in my cpanel yes
[22:57] <JanC> eh?
[22:57] <JanC> no normal ssh access?
[22:58] <lwizardl> no i think the host blocks direct access to that and mysql
[22:58] <JanC> well, I have no idea how cpanel works...
[23:00] <JanC> can't your client make a backup him/herself?
[23:01] <lwizardl> i think the person has been ignoring all calls and emails. so I am going to backup content to a cdr and then notify them once more and if no response i will kill that account
[23:05] <qwebirc106043> I need help with my postfix server. SMTP no longer works.
[23:08] <lwizardl> nope just tested ssh direct access is blocked
[23:14] <JanC> lwizardl: so how do you upload content ?
[23:14] <JanC> qwebirc106043: did you check the logs?
[23:14] <lwizardl> sftp
[23:19] <qwebirc106043> JanC: Sorry i was AFK. Can you give me the locations of the logs? I'm not good at finding log files for SMTP/Postfix
[23:20] <JanC> lwizardl: sftp goes over ssh?
[23:20] <JanC> although maybe they limit ssh to sftp
[23:20] <lwizardl> yes it does but when i use putty to try and login the server never responds
[23:20] <JanC> qwebirc106043: /var/log/mail*
[23:21] <JanC> lwizardl: doesn't respond, or you can't get a shell?
[23:21] <lwizardl> says connecting to x.x.x.x and stays there for an hour last time i tried
[23:21] <JanC> eh
[23:22] <lwizardl> x's i used to hide the ip for the server from irc view
[23:22] <JanC> lwizardl: anyway, can't you get to his data using sftp or so?
[23:23] <lwizardl> i think i should be but i can not find that directory when i log into my account
[23:23] <qwebirc106043> i'm getting a huge list in mail.err, no SASL Authentication...
[23:43] <qwebirc106043> My ISP is blocking port 25. How can i change the port that postfix uses?
[23:46] <JanC> submission      587/tcp                         # Submission [RFC4409]
[23:47] <JanC> to submit mail, you should probably use port 587 (with secure authentication, of course)
[23:47] <qwebirc106043> JanC, How can i make postfix use that port though
[23:48] <qwebirc106043> Oh, 587 is blocked by my ISP also
[23:48] <JanC> huh?
[23:49] <JanC> port 587 outgoing is blocked by your ISP?
[23:49] <JanC> or did you want to recieve mail at your home IP?
[23:49] <JanC> (that's most likely a bad idea)
[23:49] <qwebirc106043> I want to receive and send mail from my server.
[23:50] <JanC> server at home or in a DC ?
[23:50] <qwebirc106043> Now, how can i change the outgoing port
[23:50] <qwebirc106043> home
[23:50] <JanC> most mailservers block SMTP connections from consumer IP ranges
[23:51] <JanC> so sending mail from your home server will require using the relay from your ISP
[23:53] <qwebirc106043> I've been using a relay from my ISP for the past 3 weeks and its worked fine. Now, SMTP isn't working. I reinstalled postfix and everything. I just need to change the port postfix uses to something other than 587 or 25
[23:56] <qwebirc106043> I can send mail to localhost just fine. JanC, Can you please tell me how to configure postfix to use a unblocked port?
[23:56] <JanC> basically, you edit master.cf
[23:57] <JanC> but for incoming mail you need port 25...
[23:57] <qwebirc106043> Incoming works for some reason. But outgoing fails
[23:58] <JanC> like I said, you'll have to use your ISP's relay for outgoing mail
[23:59] <JanC> IIR one of the debconf preconfigs for postfix allows you to set that up
[23:59] <JanC> IIRC *
[23:59] <qwebirc106043> Its setup to use my ISP's mail relay host


[06:02] <snkt> hello
[07:00] <IamTrying> http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBoard-xM - I have tihs board. How can i install Ubuntu 13.10 kernel 3.11 on it?
[07:08] <infinity> IamTrying: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/saucy/main/installer-armhf/current/images/omap/netboot/boot.img-fb.gz
[07:08] <infinity> IamTrying: Write that to an SD card, boot, and install.
[07:09] <infinity> IamTrying: (Ideally, install to external media, like a USB hard drive)
[07:10] <IamTrying> infinity, Can i just make the boot.img.fb.gz int my USB stick? and install it via USB ?
[07:11] <infinity> IamTrying: Been a while since I played with one, but unless it has a burned in SPI that lets you slect a boot device, it almost certainly only boots from SD.
[07:11] <infinity> IamTrying: So, you'll need an SD card both for the installer, and for the kernel/bootloader to live on in the final setup (same card, of course, the installer will reformat it).
[07:12] <IamTrying> infinity, I have less trust in Flash card u know. They fail for long run. So was thinking to use USB Stick with higher speed.
[07:12] <IamTrying> infinity, SD card i wanted to avoid if possible
[07:12] <infinity> IamTrying: No, no.  You only have to BOOT from the SD card.  Like I said, you should INSTALL the system to an external USB device.
[07:13] <IamTrying> OK - infinity
[07:13] <infinity> IamTrying: The SD isn't likely to fail if you never write anything to it other than a bootloader and kernel once in a while.
[07:13] <infinity> (Which will all happen automatically)
[07:14] <IamTrying> OK - infinity, so i have one 16GB SD card and one 120GB USB Disk. Now i write the boot.img-fb.gz in my 16GB SD card? And then while install i choose 120GB USB stick right?
[07:16] <infinity> IamTrying: Right.
[07:16] <IamTrying> OK - Excellent, thank you so much infinity, will let you know after installation, have a nice day.
[07:17] <infinity> IamTrying: Also, that -fb image is if you have a monitor and keyboard attached.  If you're doing it via a serial console, you want this instead:
[07:17] <infinity> http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/saucy/main/installer-armhf/current/images/omap/netboot/boot.img-serial.gz


[00:11] <guiverc> The oldest supported Lubuntu release is 22.04 LTS  (ie. 22.04, 22.10 & 23.04 currently are supported).  Your release is EOSS
[00:12] <guiverc> radiobuzz, https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2023/06/17/extended-security-maintenance-for-ubuntu-18-04-lts-began-on-may-31-2023/
[18:13] <bret60> Hi. I have error message cros_ec_Ipcs cros_ec_Ipcs.O: ec id not detected on start up
[18:26] <gr0k> hey guise. what is a good way to achieve a global dark theme on lubuntu 22.04 ? including window manager backgrounds. i see the obconf settings but i want adwaita-dark. lxappearance doesnt work, installin the .obt and using obconf doesnt work
[18:26] <gr0k> *file manager backgrounds
[18:27] <gr0k> its so easy on KDE plasma, but i kan konfirm it konstantly krashes
[18:54] <gr0k> https://ibb.co/89qHb0m   i used this and manually set the colors
[18:54] <gr0k> so nevermind i guess