[00:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted akonadi-search [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[00:12] <slangasek> bsanta_, acheronuk: random example: kf5-messagelib in Debian unstable has some Breaks/Replaces not present in the Ubuntu version just uploaded
[00:13] <slangasek> and there are symbols file differences that look suspiciously like you'll have build failures on some archs that have already been fixed in Debian
[00:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kf5-messagelib [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[00:29] <slangasek> santa_, acheronuk: (analitza) you should really never need to bump the minimum version of symbols in symbols files, and it makes it rather difficult to sanity-check the diff for accidentally dropped symbols
[00:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted analitza [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[00:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debootstrap (yakkety-proposed/main) [1.0.81ubuntu1 => 1.0.81ubuntu2] (core)
[00:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kleopatra [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[00:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debootstrap [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.0.81ubuntu2]
[00:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kontactinterface (yakkety-proposed/universe) [15.12.3-0ubuntu1 => 16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[00:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ktp-call-ui [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[00:40] <slangasek> xnox: any expectation of getting rid of boost1.60 for 16.10?
[00:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ark [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3a-0ubuntu1]
[00:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5calendarsupport [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[00:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted artikulate [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[00:45] <slangasek> santa_: is it really correct that audiocd-kio 16.04.3 has no changes from 15.12.3?
[00:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected audiocd-kio [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[00:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted blinken [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[00:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: asterisk-flite (yakkety-proposed/universe) [2.2-1 => 2.2-1build1] (no packageset)
[00:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted bomber [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[00:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5eventviews [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[00:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted asterisk-flite [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.2-1build1]
[00:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kontactinterface (yakkety-proposed/universe) [15.12.3-0ubuntu1 => 16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[00:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted bovo [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[00:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cantor [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[00:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: fonts-atarismall (yakkety-proposed/primary) [2.2-1]
[00:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cervisia [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5gravatar [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dolphin [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5kdgantt2 [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dolphin-plugins [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:12] <valorie> slangasek: "why do most of these kubuntu uploads appear not to share history with the Debian KDE packages, despite having later versions?  I thought Kubuntu worked closely with the Debian KDE maintainers" -- we used to share packaging on their git
[01:12] <valorie> but they never used our packaging, and their git had so many timeouts that we moved it back to LP git
[01:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libkf5kdgantt2 [ppc64el] (yakkety-proposed/none) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[01:13] <valorie> we do merge whenever possible
[01:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libkf5kdgantt2 [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/none) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[01:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libkf5kdgantt2 [i386] (yakkety-proposed/none) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[01:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libkf5kdgantt2 [arm64] (yakkety-proposed/none) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[01:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libkf5kdgantt2 [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed/none) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[01:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libkf5kdgantt2 [armhf] (yakkety-proposed/none) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[01:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dragon [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5ksieve [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted filelight [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kdewebdev (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 => 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu2] (kubuntu)
[01:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kde-baseapps (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 => 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu2] (kubuntu)
[01:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: utidylib (yakkety-proposed/universe) [0.3-1 => 0.3-1build1] (kubuntu)
[01:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gpgmepp [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libkf5kdgantt2 [s390x] (yakkety-proposed/none) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[01:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5libkdepim [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted granatier [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gwenview [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted jovie [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted juk [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5libkleo [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kaccessible [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libxml2 [sync] (yakkety-proposed) [2.9.4+dfsg1-2]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kpat (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 => 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted akonadi [i386] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted akonadi [ppc64el] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted fonts-atarismall [sync] (yakkety-proposed) [2.2-1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5kdgantt2 [arm64] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5kdgantt2 [i386] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5kdgantt2 [ppc64el] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted marble [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted marble [i386] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-msrestazure [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [0.4.3-1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted akonadi [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5kdgantt2 [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5kdgantt2 [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted marble [armhf] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ruby-ms-rest [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [0.5.0-1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted akonadi [s390x] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5kdgantt2 [s390x] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5kdgantt2 [armhf] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted marble [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kaccounts-integration [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:34] <slangasek> valorie: well, codehosting in lp is one thing; but I'm seeing a lot of these packages that clearly haven't merged packaging from what's currently in Debian unstable
[01:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: fonts-atarismall [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/none) [2.2-1] (no packageset)
[01:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5mailcommon [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kaccounts-providers [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:37] <valorie> slangasek: probably we packaged them weeks ago
[01:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libxml2 [ppc64el] (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.9.4+dfsg1-2] (core)
[01:38] <valorie> I hope we'll solve that problem soon
[01:38] <valorie> we're doing too much extra work
[01:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libxml2 [i386] (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.9.4+dfsg1-2] (core)
[01:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libxml2 [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.9.4+dfsg1-2] (core)
[01:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libxml2 [s390x] (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.9.4+dfsg1-2] (core)
[01:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libxml2 [arm64] (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.9.4+dfsg1-2] (core)
[01:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kajongg [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5mailimporter [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libxml2 [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.9.4+dfsg1-2] (core)
[01:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kalarmcal [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libxml2 [armhf] (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.9.4+dfsg1-2] (core)
[01:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kalgebra [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kde-runtime [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[01:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kalzium [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5pimcommon [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:00] <slangasek> valorie: fwiw kde-runtime is an example; the package in Debian dropped the build-dep on obsolete libqzeigteist-dev months ago, but this packaging change wasn't merged into what was uploaded to yakkety today
[02:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kamera [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:05] <slangasek> valorie: and then, curiously, there are packages such as libkdeedu which Debian has removed as 'obsolete', but are in the queue now with new upstream versions (?)
[02:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kanagram [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kapman [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kapptemplate [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kde-runtime (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4:15.12.3-0ubuntu2 => 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu2] (kubuntu)
[02:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kate [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted katomic [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:23] <valorie> slangasek: I will pass this along to our packagers
[02:24] <valorie> and we'll get it cleaned up ASAP
[02:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kblackbox [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:28] <slangasek> valorie: cheers
[02:28] <valorie> thank you for the useful feedback
[02:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kblocks [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kblog [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted fonts-atarismall [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [2.2-1]
[02:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kbreakout [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kbruch [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kcachegrind [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kcalc [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kcalcore [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: evolution-rss (yakkety-proposed/universe) [0.3.95-6 => 0.3.95-6build1] (no packageset)
[02:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ruby-ms-rest-azure [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [0.5.0-1] (no packageset)
[02:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted evolution-rss [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.3.95-6build1]
[02:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kcalutils [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kcharselect [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-azure [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [2.0.0~rc6+dfsg-2] (no packageset)
[02:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kcolorchooser [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[02:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kcontacts [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[05:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kcron [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[05:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxml2 [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [2.9.4+dfsg1-2]
[05:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxml2 [armhf] (yakkety-proposed) [2.9.4+dfsg1-2]
[05:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxml2 [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed) [2.9.4+dfsg1-2]
[05:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxml2 [s390x] (yakkety-proposed) [2.9.4+dfsg1-2]
[05:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxml2 [arm64] (yakkety-proposed) [2.9.4+dfsg1-2]
[05:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxml2 [ppc64el] (yakkety-proposed) [2.9.4+dfsg1-2]
[05:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxml2 [i386] (yakkety-proposed) [2.9.4+dfsg1-2]
[06:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kde4libs [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:4.14.22-0ubuntu1]
[06:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kde-baseapps [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:15.12.3-0ubuntu2]
[06:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kde-baseapps [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[06:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kdebugsettings [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[06:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kde-dev-scripts [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[06:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kde-dev-utils [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[06:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kdeedu-data [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[06:37] <xnox> slangasek, with another stab at calligra and a few demotions to proposed it can be done.
[06:37] <xnox> (boost1.60)
[06:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kdegraphics-mobipocket [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[06:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[06:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kdegraphics-thumbnailers [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[06:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kdenetwork-filesharing [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[06:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kdenetwork-strigi-analyzers [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[06:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kdenlive [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[06:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kdepim [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[06:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kdepimlibs [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[06:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kdepim-runtime [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kdesdk-strigi-analyzers [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kdesdk-thumbnailers [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qtbase-opensource-src-gles (yakkety-proposed/universe) [5.6.1+dfsg-3ubuntu5~1 => 5.6.1+dfsg-3ubuntu6~4] (no packageset) (sync)
[07:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qtbase-opensource-src (yakkety-proposed/main) [5.6.1+dfsg-3ubuntu5~1 => 5.6.1+dfsg-3ubuntu6~4] (kubuntu, qt5, ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[07:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted utidylib [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.3-1build1]
[07:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rkt (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.10.0+dfsg-1 => 1.13.0+dfsg-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[07:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qtbase-opensource-src-gles [sync] (yakkety-proposed) [5.6.1+dfsg-3ubuntu6~4]
[07:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kpat (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 => 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted rkt [sync] (yakkety-proposed) [1.13.0+dfsg-1]
[07:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kpimtextedit (yakkety-proposed/universe) [15.12.3-0ubuntu1 => 16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kde-spectacle [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: workrave (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.10.15-3 => 1.10.16-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[07:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted workrave [sync] (yakkety-proposed) [1.10.16-1]
[07:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kpat (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 => 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kdewebdev [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:15.12.3-0ubuntu2]
[07:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kopete (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 => 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kdf [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kdiamond [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kfloppy [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: syslog-ng-incubator (yakkety-proposed/universe) [0.5.0-1 => 0.5.0-1build1] (no packageset)
[07:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kfourinline [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted syslog-ng-incubator [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.5.0-1build1]
[07:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kgeography [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kget [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kde-runtime [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu2]
[07:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kgoldrunner [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kgpg [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted khangman [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kdewebdev [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted khelpcenter [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kholidays [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kdepim-runtime (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1 => 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu2] (kubuntu)
[07:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kadu-mime-tex (yakkety-proposed/universe) [2.1-1.1 => 2.1-1.1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[07:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kholidays [ppc64el] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kholidays [i386] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kholidays [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kadu-mime-tex [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.1-1.1ubuntu1]
[07:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kopete (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 => 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kidentitymanagement [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kig [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kholidays [arm64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kigo [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted killbots [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kholidays [armhf] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kimap [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kholidays [s390x] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kio-extras [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kholidays [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kiriki [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[07:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: asterisk (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1:13.10.0~dfsg-1ubuntu1 => 1:13.10.0~dfsg-1ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[07:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted asterisk [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1:13.10.0~dfsg-1ubuntu2]
[07:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kiten [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-azure [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [2.0.0~rc6+dfsg-2]
[08:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kjumpingcube [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kldap [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ruby-ms-rest-azure [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [0.5.0-1]
[08:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kholidays [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kholidays [armhf] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kholidays [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kholidays [s390x] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kholidays [arm64] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kholidays [ppc64el] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kholidays [i386] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted klettres [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted klickety [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted klines [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kmag [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kmahjongg [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kmailtransport [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kmbox [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kmime [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kmines [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kmix [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kmousetool [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kmouth [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kdesdk-kioslaves [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[08:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kmplot [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted knavalbattle [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kdesdk-kioslaves [arm64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[08:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kdesdk-kioslaves [i386] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[08:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted knetwalk [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kdepim-runtime [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu2]
[08:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kontactinterface (yakkety-proposed/universe) [15.12.3-0ubuntu1 => 16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[08:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kolf [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kollision [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kolourpaint [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kompare [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected konquest [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kdesdk-kioslaves [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[08:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted konsole [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kontactinterface [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kopete [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kpat [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kpimtextedit [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kppp [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kqtquickcharts [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted krdc [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kremotecontrol [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kreversi [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted krfb [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kross-interpreters [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kruler [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ksaneplugin [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kscd [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kdesdk-kioslaves [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kdesdk-kioslaves [i386] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kdesdk-kioslaves [arm64] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kdesdk-kioslaves [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kshisen [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ksirk [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:39] <acheronuk> are some of these rejects because there is not apparent source change?
[08:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ksnakeduel [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kspaceduel [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:41] <apw> acheronuk, the uploader should be getting a reason, i am not sure if we can see what was said after the fact
[08:41] <slangasek> acheronuk: yes
[08:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ksquares [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:43] <slangasek> build time (and test runner time) is scarce between now and release; if it's really intended that these new upstream version numbers come with no new tarball, and there's some value in having it under the new version number, we can revisit after the queues drain if there's still time
[08:43] <acheronuk> slangasek: well, a lot of KDE apps for 16.04 series (especially games) were simply not updated by KDE and the source tarballs just re-spun with the new release numbers. in most case I that I think was becasue KDE had a Qt5 port pending but not done for 16.04 release series
[08:44] <slangasek> they respin tarballs with *no* content changes?
[08:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kstars [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:44]  * acheronuk glares at kde
[08:45] <slangasek> that's silly. but anyway, this approach increases the chances that the things that actually have changes in them make it in for release, instead of having resources stolen by pointless rebuilds :)
[08:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ksudoku [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:45] <acheronuk> yes, I even check some including the example you gave last nighty. diffing the unpacked sources
[08:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ksystemlog [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:46] <slangasek> the other thing I've rejected for is symbols file changes with no soname / package name change, which usually points to ABI breakage that could wreak havoc if all the packages aren't updated together (which there's a risk of given how close to release we are)
[08:46] <slangasek> (it's also wrong in general, but especially risky this close to release)
[08:47] <slangasek> if someone has done the analysis to show that those symbols aren't used by any reverse-deps and it's "safe" to include the ABI changes without a lib package name change, we can rescue them from rejected
[08:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kteatime [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:48] <acheronuk> slangasek: are the reject emails going to the actual uploader or person on the last changelog entry? I believe the former?
[08:48] <slangasek> acheronuk: the uploader
[08:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ktimer [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ktnef [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ktouch [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:50] <acheronuk> slangasek: he is not available until Monday, so so if you could possibly (if not too much trouble) indicate those particular ones with symbols issue etc, that would be helpful.
[08:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ktp-accounts-kcm [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:51] <slangasek> acheronuk: I'll do so going forward, but I wouldn't be able to find this for the already-rejected ones without redownloading them and looking at the debdiffs
[08:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected libkdeedu [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:52] <slangasek> (AFAIK there are no perms preventing anyone else from doing this)
[08:52] <slangasek> pretty sure kidentitymanagement was an ABI issue
[08:53] <slangasek> beyond that I can't say for sure, sorry
[08:53] <acheronuk> slangasek: no problem. we appreciate what you can do
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ktp-approver [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:54] <acheronuk> slangasek: hmmm. just unpacked the ktouch 15.12.3 and 16.04.3 sources, and diff shows no change
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ktp-auth-handler [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:56] <slangasek> acheronuk: sure, that's why I rejected
[08:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ktp-common-internals [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:57] <acheronuk> slangasek: so are you saying ultimately they can't be accepted, and we have to leave the old versions? or just not now?
[08:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ktp-contact-list [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[08:58] <slangasek> acheronuk: if the kubuntu team wants the new version numbers, they can upload later; final freeze is just not a good time for that kind of upload
[08:59] <acheronuk> slangasek: final freeze isn't for 12 days is it?
[08:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ktp-contact-runner [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:00] <slangasek> acheronuk: that's the different meaning of final freeze, after which no more changes are allowed to anything including unseeded universe packages
[09:01] <slangasek> right now, we're in the "final freeze" that means a release team member looks at all changes to the seeded packages
[09:01] <slangasek> to weigh things like "is this worth the increased risk that something else that's release critical won't have time to build before release day"
[09:02] <acheronuk> that is not clear at all on the wiki schedule
[09:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ktp-desktop-applets [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ktp-filetransfer-handler [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:03] <acheronuk> "Once the BetaRelease is shipped, we roll back to FeatureFreeze and UserInterfaceFreeze status."
[09:04] <slangasek> acheronuk: which page is that quoting from?
[09:04] <acheronuk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BetaFreeze
[09:05] <acheronuk> I guess that badly needs an update ^^^
[09:05] <slangasek> seems so
[09:05] <slangasek> otoh it's not linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule at all
[09:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ktp-kded-integration-module [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:05] <apw> slangasek, that is beta freeze not beta2freeze
[09:06] <acheronuk> slangasek: it is linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess
[09:07] <acheronuk> probably how I ended up with that link
[09:09] <acheronuk> in fact, looking at the modifications dates for the some pages, they are a bit scarily old. 2012 etc
[09:10] <apw> acheronuk, the one i am looking at 2009 :/
[09:10] <acheronuk> apw: eek!
[09:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ktp-send-file [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ktp-text-ui [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ktuberling [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kturtle [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kubrick [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kuser [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kwalletmanager [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:15] <slangasek> acheronuk: if I were you I'd be worrying about the build failures; e.g. kde4libs FTBFS on on armhf,ppc64el,s390x with symbol failures, chances are Debian has a fix for these
[09:16] <acheronuk> slangasek: yes, I was already 'worrying' about those.
[09:16] <slangasek> ok :)
[09:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kwordquiz [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected libkcddb [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:17] <acheronuk> I am keeping an eye on http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/#kubuntu
[09:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libkcompactdisc [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libkdegames [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:19] <slangasek> acheronuk: libkeduvocdocument: symbols file (i.e. ABI) change
[09:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected libkeduvocdocument [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:21] <acheronuk> slangasek: I will likely have to pass those onto santa_ , as he has the greater experience of available people with that sort of issue. but noted, and thank you :)
[09:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libkf5kdcraw [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libkf5kipi [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libkf5kmahjongg [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libkf5sane [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libkomparediff2 [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:26] <acheronuk> the original plan was to sync apps 16.08 with debian, and go with those. but didn't happen in time due to shortage of full -devs, and lack of qtwebengine being done for Yakkety archive, which meant the 16.08 apps would not build most of KDEPIM
[09:26] <slangasek> acheronuk: btw, the strigi packages, according to the Debian maintainers, are obsolete and have all been dropped from Debian unstable; since none of them had actual content updates for 16.04.3, you might want to check if we can do the same
[09:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lokalize [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:26] <slangasek> (I mention this now because I noticed lokalize dropped its strigi dep)
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lskat [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected mplayerthumbs [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libkf5sane [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[09:29] <acheronuk> slangasek: noted as well. not sure if those were dropped when these were first staged in our ppas, but it's clear there needs to be some better communication with debian on such matters
[09:30] <slangasek> mplayerthumbs is another one that's been dropped in Debian but is still in yakkety because digikam depends on it
[09:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected okteta [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:31] <slangasek> acheronuk: and I've just rejected okteta because it appears to have regressed its symbols files... the previous ones that had been checked against multiple archs were replaced with ones only checked against x86, and as a result some symbols marked as ppc64el-specific were removed from the list completely
[09:31] <slangasek> (rejected to save build time on the other architectures since it'll need reuploaded in a way that builds on ppc64el)
[09:31] <slangasek> do the kubuntu team's ppas have ppc64el enabled?
[09:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted okular [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:33] <acheronuk> no, and I don't think they ever have had. adding extra architectures was something we discussed the other day as likely needed
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected palapeli [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:34] <apw> lamont, i do not seem to be able to find cloud-initramfs-tools for yakkety that you requested
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted parley [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libkf5sane [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted picmi [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected poxml [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted print-manager [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted rocs [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted signon-kwallet-extension [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted step [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: unity-control-center (yakkety-proposed/main) [15.04.0+16.10.20160705.1-0ubuntu2 => 15.04.0+16.10.20160705.1-0ubuntu3] (ubuntu-desktop)
[09:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected svgpart [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected sweeper [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted syndication [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted umbrello [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:44] <acheronuk> slangasek: I have to go. Thanks for the help do far.
[09:45] <slangasek> acheronuk: sure thing.  and that should be the end of the kde packages in the queue, for now
[09:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected zeroconf-ioslave [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1]
[09:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted unity-control-center [source] (yakkety-proposed) [15.04.0+16.10.20160705.1-0ubuntu3]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted update-manager [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:16.04.4]
[10:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted bzr [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.7.0-2ubuntu3]
[10:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-azure-storage [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [0.33.0-1] (no packageset)
[10:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ruby-azure-sdk [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [0.6.0-1] (no packageset)
[10:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ktp-call-ui [ppc64el] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[10:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/main) [4.8.0-19.21] (core, kernel)
[10:26] <cjwatson> acheronuk: the PPA owner can self-enable ppc64el FWIW; shouldn't be something that requires extensive discussion.  http://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/ppas-for-ppc64el
[10:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ktp-call-ui [i386] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[10:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [4.8.0-19.21]
[12:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ktp-call-ui [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ktp-call-ui [arm64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ktp-call-ui [armhf] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:20] <acheronuk> cjwatson: are launchpad ok with us doing that. with the general slowdown of launchpad publishing in recent times, was sort of reluctant to give LP extra build jobs for everything we stage in our ppas
[12:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ktp-call-ui [s390x] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ktp-call-ui [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.04.3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapcraft (yakkety-proposed/universe) [2.18.1+16.10 => 2.19+16.10] (no packageset)
[12:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapcraft [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.19+16.10]
[13:05] <Mirv> if anyone around, letting qtbase-opensource-src in during the weekend would be nice to get autopkgtests infra fully utilized during the weekend.
[13:17] <cjwatson> acheronuk: it's fine
[13:17] <cjwatson> acheronuk: we need to sort out the publishing issues, obviously, but I don't think adding an architecture will break th ebank
[13:18] <cjwatson> *the bank
[13:18] <cjwatson> there's a branch in my review queue that's supposed to help though I don't know by how much
[15:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: writerperfect (yakkety-proposed/universe) [0.9.5-1 => 0.9.5-1build1] (no packageset)
[15:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted writerperfect [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.9.5-1build1]
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: passwordmaker-cli (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.5+dfsg-3build1 => 1.5+dfsg-3.1] (no packageset) (sync)
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted passwordmaker-cli [sync] (yakkety-proposed) [1.5+dfsg-3.1]
[15:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-snapshot (yakkety-proposed/universe) [20160922-1ubuntu1 => 20161001-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[15:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-snapshot [source] (yakkety-proposed) [20161001-1ubuntu1]
[18:55] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: another concern the Kubuntu team had was Launchpad disk space
[18:56] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: I think that's the main reason why we didn't have *all* the PPAs enabled
[18:56] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: (arches, rather)
[18:57] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: if we can be guaranteed lots of disk space for our PPAs, then I personally think we will discuss it more
[18:57]  * tsimonq2 takes off Kubuntu hat and puts on Lubuntu hat
[18:59] <tsimonq2> the only package that is currently FTBFS in the lubuntu packageset is hardinfo. This is due to new build flags, and this has been a problem since *vivid*. Could a release team member please review the email I sent detailing this fix and upload? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2016-September/000824.html
[19:00]  * slangasek blinks at the new incoming component-mismatches
[19:03] <slangasek> tsimonq2: release team != ubuntu-sponsors; you might want to file a bug with patch and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors first, as that's a wider pool and might get you a faster response (without taking away from release work)
[19:03]  * tsimonq2 tries again
[19:03] <tsimonq2> thanks slangasek
[19:03] <tsimonq2> (stupid thing, I should have known that, sorry for wasting your time)
[19:04] <slangasek> it's not a waste, and we do double duty as sponsors also - but today I'm only doing queue management :)
[19:06] <slangasek> tsimonq2: speaking of lubuntu hats, lubuntu images are all still reporting as oversized, all the way back to trusty; would be great if the lubuntu team would set a new realistic limit
[19:08] <tsimonq2> slangasek: we're aware of that, and we're going to discuss at our Z planning meeting
[19:10]  * slangasek considers picking a limit in the meantime so that the failures stop cluttering his inbox
[19:10] <slangasek> :)
[19:14] <tsimonq2> slangasek: please set the limit to 1 GB for the time being
[19:14] <tsimonq2> slangasek: and can you sign me up for whatever Lubuntu-related emails y'all get, please? :)
[19:15] <slangasek> tsimonq2: will do on both counts, thanks.  preferred email?
[19:15] <tsimonq2> slangasek<EMAIL_ADDRESS>for Lubuntu stuff
[19:15] <tsimonq2> slangasek: otherwise<EMAIL_ADDRESS>works
[19:17]  * tsimonq2 takes off Lubuntu hat and puts on Kubuntu hat
[19:17] <tsimonq2> slangasek: where's the queue of things to fix?
[19:18] <slangasek> tsimonq2: build failures; update_excuses.html; otherwise, mostly AA/release-team-only stuff
[19:19] <tsimonq2> slangasek: I thought acheronuk linked a queue in Launchpad at one point
[19:19] <tsimonq2> slangasek: I'm talking about the lava pit you guys throw unapproved packages in ;)
[19:20] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/yakkety/+queue?queue_state=4
[19:20] <slangasek> ah that one
[19:20] <tsimonq2> ah yes, thanks
[19:21] <tsimonq2> slangasek: are there reasons somewhere? have you outlined what's wrong (and I just need to read IRC logs)?
[19:23] <valorie> I did send an email to -devel last night
[19:23] <slangasek> tsimonq2: the reasons don't get saved, only emailed to the uploader, and unfortunately I was trying to process these as quickly as possible so I took no notes.  But if you see that the package has a queue diff from the previous version containing no upstream changes (or only trivial ones that don't affect the package output), that's the reason; otherwise it's another reason, and in most cases
[19:23] <slangasek> that other reason was concern about ABI-breaking changes
[19:23] <tsimonq2> ah ok
[19:23] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: was outlining them this morning here after I asked. ones before I asked would be in the reject email to shadeslayer
[19:24] <tsimonq2> ok acheronuk
[19:24] <valorie> tsimonq2: he might forward if you ask him
[19:25] <acheronuk> [18:14]  <shadeslayer> but won't be around till monday to sponsor fixes
[19:26] <slangasek> yeah, and the vast majority of them were "rejecting this no-op upload".  There were only a couple after our conversation "this morning" that needed substantive follow-up
[19:26] <acheronuk> valorie: so I guess he won't be around to forward those until Monday either..
[19:27] <acheronuk> slangasek: yes, I think we can work out 90% of it at least
[19:28] <valorie> he might read email
[19:38] <acheronuk> valorie: have emailed him
[19:38] <valorie> cool
[19:52] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: adding an architecture for a PPA that has a good reason for it is a perfectly good reason for requesting a quota bump
[19:52] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: that won't be a problem
[19:52] <valorie> \o/
[19:53] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: since both of our major hurdles have been met, I'm enabling All The Arches on the PPAs, thanks :)
[19:56] <acheronuk> tsimonq2 cjwatson:  I think we are locked out from enabling powerpc and s390x?
[19:56]  * tsimonq2 takes off Kubuntu hat and puts on Lubuntu hat
[19:57] <tsimonq2> bug 1629601
[19:57] <tsimonq2> needs sponsoring if someone has a minute :) ^
[19:57]  * tsimonq2 takes off Lubuntu hat and puts on Kubuntu hat
[19:57] <tsimonq2> hat juggling! :P
[19:57] <acheronuk> :P
[19:58] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: correct. cjwatson, if I give you a list of our staging PPAs, would you be able to enable those arches on there?
[19:58] <cjwatson> tsimonq2,acheronuk: Sorry, can't enable powerpc or s390x for non-Canonical staff - we don't have adequate sandboxing there yet
[19:59] <tsimonq2> :(
[19:59] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: have an ETA?
[19:59] <cjwatson> no
[19:59] <cjwatson> it's "whenever we get scalingstack working there"
[19:59] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: anything anyone can help with?
[20:00] <cjwatson> I doubt it, unless you work in our sysadmin team
[20:00] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: and I would have to work at Canonical then?
[20:00] <cjwatson> correct
[20:00] <tsimonq2> want my resume? :P
[20:00] <cjwatson> not a hiring manager
[20:00] <cjwatson> don't want to be one :)
[20:00] <tsimonq2> gosh darnit :P
[20:01] <cjwatson> (to be clear, they're already working on deploying a new scalingstack region where it *should* be possible to get powerpc and s390x up and running, but they're unknown quantities and so I don't want to promise any kind of ETA)
[20:01] <cjwatson> (so it's not like there's no work going on)
[20:01] <tsimonq2> I see, so at the very minimum it's being worked on?
[20:01] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: I think hiring you would break a few employment laws as well :P
[20:01] <cjwatson> the prerequisites for it are being worked on
[20:01] <cjwatson> er, right, we only hire people who can sign legally-binding contracts - run into that one in the past
[20:02] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: what if I already worked with Canonical legal to get the CLA signed? :P
[20:03] <acheronuk> joking aside, we appreciate that it's being worked on. I presume a notice will go out somewhere when it's available?
[20:03] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: no, I'm 14, I can get hired with a permit in my state. :P
[20:03] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: the CLA is much less critical than an employment contract
[20:03] <tsimonq2> ah ic
[20:03] <cjwatson> anyway, do I look like HR? :)
[20:03] <cjwatson> acheronuk: definitely
[20:04] <tsimonq2> +1 acheronuk :)
[20:04] <acheronuk> cjwatson: any particular list/place? I'm probably subbed to at least one it would go on, but can I check?
[20:04] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: can you point me towards someone? you're literally the first person to give me a straight answer on why I can't work at Canonical (yet). :P lol
[20:05] <tsimonq2> (kidding, unless you want to? lol)
[20:05] <valorie> tsimonq2: I assume they have to follow the laws in the jurisdiction where they are headquartered, first
[20:06] <tsimonq2> valorie: I checked those out too, same
[20:06] <valorie> Isle of Man as I recall
[20:06]  * tsimonq2 does his homework
[20:06] <tsimonq2> well no they have a US office
[20:08] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: in the past I've heard a very flat "nobody under 18"; I have no idea whether this is still true
[20:08] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: I don't have anyone to point you at though; it's been quite a few years since I was involved in hiring.
[20:08] <valorie> policy is difficult to change
[20:09] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: on my 18th birthday I'll submit my applications :P
[20:14] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: I expect you will submit it well before, and will wanting to sign a contract at midnight on your 18th birthday
[20:15] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: actually 5:40 AM, that's when I was born :P
[20:15] <valorie> ha
[20:15] <cjwatson> acheronuk: blog.launchpad.net
[20:20] <acheronuk> cjwatson: added to my RSS. thanks :)
[20:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: zthreads (yakkety-proposed/universe) [2.3.2-7.2 => 2.3.2-7.2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[20:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zthreads [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.3.2-7.2ubuntu1]
[21:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: yaret (yakkety-proposed/universe) [2.1.0-5 => 2.1.0-5ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[21:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted yaret [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.1.0-5ubuntu1]