[00:00] <luigihs> bekks
[00:00] <luigihs> have look the private msg I had already those packages :/ so why the screen looks bad lol
[00:01] <humbag> ok i was with you 'til the VM part :P , can I do that from another partition with debian in it?
[00:03] <daftykins> humbag: i guess your install is going to lack the binaries to do much now, so i suppose however way you can make another install, be it chroot'd, virtualised, or even a persistent install on a flash drive you can update and mess with, whichever works for you :)
[00:05] <dummylinux> bekks: what is the shortcut command shall i write in .cshrc ?
[00:07] <humbag> thanks for helping daftykins I'll try to find a way, I've got space on the drive, a usb stick, live iso's, little experience with chroot, none with vm's, see you later
[00:08] <daftykins> humbag: np, good luck!
[00:10] <Venoryk> How can I configure my wireless from console?
[00:11] <Venoryk> I've installed wpasupplicant, but can't figure out how to configure it to be able to scan the networks. Running 13.10 mini
[00:16] <daftykins> Venoryk: it used to involve iwconfig to mess with scanning, but then you had to edit a config file to create a profile for your network i think
[00:18] <Venoryk> Daftykins, the only way that i've been able to get it to connect to my wireless is to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file and manually input my network settings, but that doesn't do me any good should I move the HTPC elsewhere
[00:18] <basketball>  askubuntu.com/questions/430110/two-keyboards-in-ubuntu-13-10
[00:19] <daftykins> Venoryk: i love wired ;)
[00:20] <Venoryk> Daftykins, I would consider running wired, but this particular htpc is going in my kids bedroom and the less wires the better which is why i'm trying to get the wifi working lol
[00:21] <daftykins> Venoryk: considered powerline networking? i'm a little confused, if you can set it up fine statically in interfaces, what's going to regularly change?
[00:21] <basketball> why isnt anyone here
[00:22] <Venoryk> Daftykins, I actually have it ran on a powerline right now configuring it. And it's not that setting it up statically isn't an option.. but I'm still wanting to figure out how to get it to work as intended.
[00:23] <Venoryk> One primary reason is that if my son goes to stay the night at his grand parents I can send the bookshelf system w/ him so that he can still have his htpc.
[00:23] <daftykins> Venoryk: hrmm, assuming you're running something like XBMC and so foregoing a standard desktop, i assume there's no network-manager use to configure it. i think wireless from CLI is always hell
[00:23] <Venoryk> Daftykins, yeah. It's an XBMC box being built on top of Ubuntu 13.10 mini install.
[00:24] <Oog> i have a cron job that runs every minute. sometimes it takes longer than a minute to run - if the process is still running I don't want a new one to start - how can i do this?
[00:26] <daftykins> Venoryk: i think wpa-supplicant driven wireless can still have multiple wireless network profiles, they all live in a wpa_supplicant.conf i think
[00:26] <Jordan_U> Oog: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/02/introducing-run-one-and-run-this-one.html
[00:26] <daftykins> Venoryk: i guess at this point my experience with it isn't enough to be of any use to you - but i'm sure googling for some config examples or even XBMC's forum might provide what's missing?
[00:26] <Oog> thanks!
[00:27] <Venoryk> Daftykins, the wpa_supplicant.conf I believe is where i'm running into my issues. I'm debating on copying the wpa_supplicant.conf from the 13.10 liveboot install over and seeing if that will help.
[00:27] <daftykins> Venoryk: in fact check out - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136
[00:29] <Venoryk> Daftykins, Thanks I don't know how with all my searching I didn't come across that particular page. But I have done similar as directed by other guides to no avail. But that one has a couple things the others haven't so I will test that out on the system and get back to you shortly.
[00:29] <Jordan_U> Oog: You're welcome.
[00:29] <pepe_> join #mio
[00:30] <daftykins> Venoryk: np :) good luck
[00:36] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, its volume controller is stuck at 0
[00:38] <JFranks> So I'm trying to get 12.04.4 LTS AMD64 onto a SunFire X4100 .. First attempt was with MAAS.. Got to Grub install step and it'd just fail.. same with LILO.. Did a boot n nuke with wipe, rebuilt the RAID as a 2 disk mirror and tried a standard install with no MAAS.. Got through the install with no grief.. The server reboots in an unsupported video mode.. I tried the default 'how to get grub into 640x480 resolution' but I couldn't find a grub file
[00:38] <JFranks> to edit once I got to the shell in recovery mode.. Is this all totally typical? I've never had a hiccup installing Ubuntu on any other hardware.. :p
[00:38] <gmachine_24> Venoryk: how is xbmc working for you
[00:39] <alumno_> hola
[00:39] <alumno_> hola
[00:40] <gmachine_24> alumno_, state your business
[00:40] <alumno_> inglis jajja
[00:40] <alumno_> no
[00:40] <gmachine_24> !question
[00:40] <alumno_> todo bien?
[00:40] <rww> ubottu: es
[00:41] <Jordan_U> JFranks: What problem were you having finding /etc/default/grub from the recovery mode shell?
[00:41] <alumno_> ok
[00:41] <gmachine_24> :-) buena suerte
[00:41] <alumno_> cual es tu face_?
[00:41] <JFranks> Jordan_U: It offered a lot of choices for "root" to mount.. I took the 4th choice that ended in /root/ .. Possibly that was wrong?
[00:42] <JFranks> Jordan_U: 'locate grub' just showed some .c files.. and some scripts?
[00:42] <Jordan_U> JFranks: What offered a lot of choices? I don't understand in what context you're seeing this choice.
[00:45] <arturo__> HI
[00:45] <alumno_> que es esto?
[00:45] <alumno_> confuso :/
[00:46] <JFranks> Jordan_U: It was asking to pick the 'partition' (?) to load as the root .. I saw the usual 'nix drives /sda .. etc.. and then in the middle of the choices there was a volume manger/root/ type choice.. I think that's what I did wrong.. But rather than reboot and try every single permutation of the repair process.. and the install process.. Why not ask some experts about this particular server?
[00:46] <gmachine_24> ubottu: es
[00:46] <alumno_> ubottu quien sos?
[00:47] <alumno_> fhrthesrzrxhrth
[00:47] <gmachine_24> alumno_, si quieres communicar en espanol, por favor visite #ubuntu-es donde espansol es la lingua franca
[00:47] <gmachine_24> espanol, even
[00:47] <alumno_> jajajajajajajajja
[00:48] <alumno_> me quedo
[00:48] <llr_> hola
[00:48] <rww> "jajajajajajajajja" isn't English, try again.
[00:48] <alumno_> hola
[00:48] <alumno_> ahy no hay nadie
[00:48] <Jordan_U> What was "it"? Did you get this option when attempting to boot the installed system normally? When booting a recovery mode option from the Server install CD? Something else? Please from now on, don't use "it" in any of your answers without first saying what "it" is.
[00:49] <gmachine_24> alumno_: no nos hablamos in espanol aqui
[00:49] <gmachine_24> *en
[00:49] <alumno_> ?¡lol
[00:49] <gmachine_24> pendejo
[00:50] <Atomix26> so wait
[00:51] <Atomix26> I am confused about a general linux thing. not an issue per-se, but more of a... direction thing.
[00:51] <Jordan_U> JFranks: What was "it"? Did you get this option when attempting to boot the installed system normally? When booting a recovery mode option from the Server install CD? Something else? Please from now on, don't use "it" in any of your answers without first saying what "it" is.
[00:51] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, its volume controller is stuck at 0
[00:52] <gmachine_24> Atomix26, do you want us to guess? or perhaps you should ask your question
[00:52] <rww> gmachine_24: be nice :P
[00:52] <Atomix26> is POSIX Compliance still really a major "Goal"?
[00:52] <gmachine_24> I thought I was.
[00:52] <gmachine_24> :-)
[00:52] <Atomix26> for linux in general.
[00:53] <sakang> Atomix26: whose goal?
[00:53] <JFranks> Jordan_U: Sorry.. As I stated in my first message, I was making a second install attempt, it went without error, on reboot I get 'unsupported video' with a 19" 1080p LCD connected.. I looked up solutions.. all seemed to suggest getting GRUB to boot in low res... Couldn't get any of those instructions to work.. Couldn't find the grub config file to edit *(never had to know where/how it's always installed on all other hardware).
[00:53] <rww> Atomix26: 100% POSIX compliance is not. Linux tends to be mostly POSIX compliant, though.
[00:54] <JFranks> Jordan_U: So my real question is if the SunFire X4100 servers typically are this hard to do an install on? Is the AMD64 install the wrong choice? Is there a better distro?
[00:56] <Atomix26> does it just not matter anymore?
[00:56] <sakang> Linux is huge
[00:57] <Atomix26> that it is.
[00:58] <sakang> I find  most of the underlying system are compliant.
[00:59] <alumno_> hello
[00:59] <luissave> xD
[00:59] <luissave> para que sirve esto¡
[01:00] <rww> alrighty, one last try
[01:00] <rww> ubottu: es | luissave
[01:00] <luissave> no hay nadie ahy :/
[01:01] <rww> That's unfortunate, but still no Spanish here.
[01:01] <sakang> luissave: no comprende aqui
[01:03] <josePHPagoda> Anyone here ever use the gnome ubuntu distro?
[01:03] <josePHPagoda> I've been using ubuntu happily, but unity has been fairly unstable as of late
[01:03] <josePHPagoda> I'm considering changing to another DE
[01:03] <gmachine_24> luissave, el major de los persones aqui no hablan espanol; necesitas usar #ubuntu-es
[01:03] <sakang> what is taht josePHPagoda :)
[01:04] <josePHPagoda> (i've been hitting issues where unity doesn't accept any clicks on my primary monitor, but works on my secondary monitor still)
[01:04] <rww> josePHPagoda: #ubuntu-gnome might be useful, if this channel isn't
[01:05] <basktball> rwsq1,  askubuntu.com/questions/430110/two-keyboards-in-ubuntu-13-10
[01:05] <basktball> rww, ,  askubuntu.com/questions/430110/two-keyboards-in-ubuntu-13-10
[01:05] <josePHPagoda> rww thanks :)
[01:05] <sakang> josePHPagoda: you can try #xubuntu also
[01:05] <sakang> or #lubuntu
[01:05] <josePHPagoda> has anyone else run into issues where unity stops accepting any mouse clicks (except on the panel on the left or on the top bar?)
[01:09] <gmachine_24> josePHPagoda: are you running a virtual version?
[01:09] <llr__> LetLoveRule
[01:10] <alumno__> no entender
[01:11] <alumno__> u.u
[01:14] <gmachine_24> am I still here?
[01:14] <rww> yes
[01:14] <gmachine_24> ok. thanks. I don't understand all those system commands/messages
[01:15] <usr13_> josePHPagoda: Are you running gpm?
[01:19] <sudormrf> hey guys! two questions.  first, is it possible for me to dual boot even if I set full disk encryption on a fresh install of 13.10?
[01:20] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: It depends on what you mean by "full disk encryption". You can encrypt your Ubuntu partitions and still dual boot.
[01:20] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: whatever the FDE that is built in to the 13.10 installer uses
[01:21] <unicornjedi> Jordan_U, hellooo
[01:21] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: That would be LUKS, with individual partitions encrypted. And yes, you can dual boot when using this configuration.
[01:21] <Jordan_U> unicornjedi: Hi.
[01:22] <sudormrf> SWEET!
[01:24] <sudormrf> next question: I have a cron job that is not working right.  The command works if I enter it manually.  what the command is doing is doing iptables -L -n and capturing only the ip addresses as output.  it then writes that output to a file.  However when cron runs the task it just blanks out the file.  the PATH variables are right.  any ideas how I can get this working?
[01:24] <Guest75104> anyone wanna see my penis in action? private me
[01:24] <gmachine_24> good god what is going on
[01:24] <daftykins> does it run ubuntu?
[01:25] <sudormrf> HAHAHAHAH
[01:25] <sudormrf> daftykins: BRILLIANT
[01:25] <daftykins> :)
[01:25] <unicornjedi> :D
[01:25] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: Please post the exact cron job you're using.
[01:25] <gmachine_24> they used to call people like Guest75104 "flag wavers"
[01:26] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: sudo iptables -L -n | grep -E -o '(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)' | grep -v <IP_ADDRESS> > /home/nick/Documents/ip.blacklist.test
[01:26] <daftykins> gmachine_24: i suppose that saves on fabric at least
[01:26] <rodrigo__|> exit
[01:26] <rww> Jordan_U: o.O
[01:27] <gmachine_24> daftykins: I don't understand your last comment . . . then again I'm not understanding a lot in here today
[01:28] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: when that command is run from the CLI manually it works just fine
[01:28] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: when it runs via cron it erases the content of the file
[01:28] <humbag> actually i think it saves on poles
[01:28] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, its volume controller is stuck at 0
[01:29] <unicornjedi> hello, Im a nub. I need help compiling from source. I've never done it before
[01:29] <daftykins> gmachine_24: penis... flag wavers, were they waving flags on their... they'd probably be quite tiny ;)
[01:29] <daftykins> gmachine_24: anywho i must not stay offtopic :)
[01:29] <gmachine_24> so the posts from this texas auto freak are coming from vilnius, ukraine. that's ok. for some reason today seems the day for it. :-)
[01:29] <rww> gmachine_24: still getting them?
[01:29] <gmachine_24> rww yes
[01:30] <rww> gmachine_24: from which nick?
[01:30] <unicornjedi> who advertises on the IRC?
[01:30] <gmachine_24> dwayne whatever
[01:30] <unicornjedi> thats so old fashioned
[01:31] <josePHPagoda> sorry… this machine likes to suspend quickly
[01:31] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: compiling from source is actually fairly easy as long as you have a compiler, etc.
[01:31] <josePHPagoda> gmachine_24: it's not virtualized
[01:31] <unicornjedi> gmachine_24, I have cmake, and makeinstall
[01:31] <josePHPagoda> and usr13_ I don't know what gpm is
[01:31] <josePHPagoda> so I'm pretty sure I'm not
[01:32] <Jordan_U> unicornjedi: What are you trying to compile?
[01:32] <unicornjedi> dogewallet
[01:32] <rww> lol.
[01:32] <sudormrf> love that doge
[01:32] <sudormrf> HAHA
[01:32] <sudormrf> dogeweather.com
[01:33] <gmachine_24> gpm = general purpose mouse, I think. what that means I don't know.
[01:33] <yaakov22> I actually really like dogeweather because it gets my general location and tells me the weather without me having tod o anything
[01:33] <yaakov22> and it gives me temperatures in C and F
[01:33] <b1g3m> hello!
[01:34] <potential> hello!
[01:34] <sudormrf> I wish they would randomise the comments more
[01:34] <b1g3m> finally got 12.04 installed... ran into some issues installing from cd, so made a bootable usb
[01:34] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: any comments on the cron job?
[01:34] <unicornjedi> omg thats amazing
[01:34] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: what happens after you do the makeinstall
[01:35] <unicornjedi> gmachine_24, i've never compiled a package before
[01:35] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: are you having a problem?
[01:35] <Jordan_U> unicornjedi: There appears to be a ppa for dogewallet, see: http://4x.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/1tvmnd/dogecoin_on_linux_the_complete_beginners_guide/
[01:36] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: You can't use sudo in a cron job, there is no way to request that the user input their password.
[01:37] <gmachine_24> sudormrf, you net to set up the cron job using sudo
[01:37] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: it is running from the root cron tab without sudo appended to it
[01:37] <yaakov22> That css.
[01:37] <gmachine_24> sudormrf, as in $sudo crontab -e
[01:37] <unicornjedi> gmachine_24, ahhhhh,  i can't have a problem if I never attempted to compile from source
[01:37] <unicornjedi> Jordan_U: thanks son
[01:37] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: yes, but what is your problem?
[01:37] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: sorry, I just copied and pasted the command I was running manually.  so it is in the root user cron tab.
[01:38] <sudormrf> gmachine_24: it is in the root user cron tab
[01:38] <gmachine_24> sudormrf: ok
[01:38] <unicornjedi> gmachine_24, what are the steps to compiling?
[01:38] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: Please pastebin the output of "sudo crontab -l".
[01:38] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: brb
[01:39] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7047502/
[01:40] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: I removed it from the cron tab because it was removing data from the file
[01:41] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: typically after you unzip the source tar ball, there are text files that tell you how to compile, etc., that are in the directory created when you unzipped the tar ball
[01:41] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: What is the exact command you used to add it to the crontab?
[01:41] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: iptables -L -n | grep -E -o '(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)' | grep -v <IP_ADDRESS> > /home/nick/Documents/ip.blacklist
[01:41] <unicornjedi> gmachine_24, cool
[01:42] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: otherwise, there are lots of how-tos out there for compiling from source - depends in part on which version of ubuntu you're using etc.
[01:43]  * b1g3m jumps
[01:43] <b1g3m> opps
[01:43] <b1g3m> sorry
[01:43] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: That is not a command that changes a cron tab.
[01:43] <gmachine_24> but in general the steps are more or less the same
[01:43] <unicornjedi> gmachine_24, is there a gui program that makes this stuff easy?
[01:43] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: oooohhh.
[01:44] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: sorry, misread what you wrote.  I am using gnome-schedule. so the interface is graphical.
[01:44] <gmachine_24> sudormrf: so does your cron file have the time settings at the beginning of the file re: when to run the command?
[01:45] <gmachine_24> sorry, I'm having trouble keeping track of what's going on
[01:45] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: Then please re-add it then pastebin the output of "sudo crontab -l", without that it's not worth trying to debug crontab entries.
[01:45] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: I don't know about a GUI; I just use the command line
[01:45] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: ok.  hang on.
[01:46] <gmachine_24> the continuing posts coming from the texas toyota man are coming from Dane_Minor now
[01:46] <unicornjedi> gmachine_24, yea, I guess I should learn how to use the command line more
[01:47] <gmachine_24> unicornjedi: yeah, once you have the building blocks installed, it's not much more than configure, make, make install
[01:47] <b1g3m> so i can see there is a lot going on in chat. just a link or quick advise for a new ubuntu guy?
[01:47] <gmachine_24> always making sure you do an $sudo apt-get update / upgrade first
[01:47] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7047525/
[01:47] <pack^> gmachine_24: then make clean
[01:48] <cfhowlett_> !details|b1g3m,
[01:48] <b1g3m> !details
[01:48] <gmachine_24> right
[01:49] <gmachine_24> b1g3m: I have no idea what your problem is
[01:49] <b1g3m> just installed 12.04. im all up to date with updates. just trying to get a "whats next list"
[01:49] <sudormrf> b1g3m: use linux?
[01:49] <b1g3m> never
[01:49] <b1g3m> but im tired of everything else
[01:49] <sudormrf> b1g3m: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-12-04
[01:50] <b1g3m> im not computer illiterate, just looking for something new.
[01:50] <b1g3m> thanks sudormrf
[01:51] <gmachine_24> b1g3m: careful; there are lots of what to do after installing pages on the Internet; perhaps the first thing to do is learn how to back up your install - and then back it up. Esp as your new and errors are inevitable. :-)
[01:52] <gmachine_24> *you're
[01:52] <gmachine_24> b1g3m: I'm sure sudormrf's link is helpful; I'm not knocking that
[01:52] <unicornjedi> (sword in ground) prepare yourself, errors are coming
[01:52] <sudormrf> gmachine_24: no worries :).
[01:52] <sudormrf> Jordan_U: any comments about my crontab?
[01:52] <gmachine_24> good. thanks.
[01:54] <b1g3m> I will be reading a lot tonight. Everything is looking good so far. Are you all pretty regular on here?
[01:54] <unicornjedi> Anyone here use dogecoin? the #dogecoin channel isnt very useful. They are talking about pizza right now
[01:54] <unicornjedi> blg3m, im a regular
[01:54] <cfhowlett> unicornjedi, dogecoin is supported on dogecoin.  this is ubuntu.
[01:54] <xangua> unicornjedi: that doesn't make it topic here
[01:55] <gmachine_24> b1g3m: people come and go.
[01:55] <unicornjedi> cfhowlett, it kinda is
[01:55] <sudormrf> b1g3m: yeah, people come and go, but someone will always be around to help
[01:55] <b1g3m> unicornjedi: I'll be seeing you. gmachine_24: Well that's to bad.
[01:56] <gmachine_24> b1g3m, good. people here know a lot - I mean A LOT.
[01:56] <humbag> sudormrf: one little thing, to write a file use > , to append to a file use >>
[01:56] <sudormrf> humbag: I don't want to append.  I want it to overwrite.  if it appends there will be duplicates
[01:57] <humbag> oh i misunderstood
[01:57] <sudormrf> humbag: no worries :)
[01:57] <b1g3m> gmachine_24: Lol that's good. I'm more so of a trial and error person before I go bugging anyone.
[01:57] <sudormrf> humbag: if you have any ideas to get it fixed, though, please :)
[01:58] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: So you expect it to overwrite the file with ip addresses, but instead it overwrites the files with nothing (leaving an empty file). Correct?
[01:58] <gmachine_24> b1g3m: I'm pretty certain most people here are the same. but, don't feel shy about asking. everyone was new at some point.
[02:04] <meLon_> I cannot ALT+SUPER+Left Click my gnome-panel to make edits.  Any suggestions?  https://askubuntu.com/questions/430577/unable-to-press-alt-super-right-click
[02:04] <cfhowlett> b1g3m, yes
[02:04] <b1g3m> cfhowlett: thanks
[02:05] <potential> Hello fellow Ubuntu-ers.
[02:06] <potential> I have a question that is on-topic about Ubuntu.
[02:06] <cfhowlett> !ask|potential,
[02:06] <b1g3m> Hello potential!
[02:07] <yaakov22> Random comment, but 14.04 beta has been way more stable for me then 13.10 has ever been.
[02:07] <potential> Where are the programs located? A "choose an application" came up and I can't find the folder of the program.
[02:08] <b1g3m> !
[02:08] <potential> I have a magnet link, for a torrent, and I need to choose and app. But I can't find where it is located at.
[02:08] <potential> The torrent client I am using is Transmission.
[02:08] <cfhowlett> !torrent
[02:09] <xangua> potential: /usr/share/binaries for the program binaries, if you want to use transmission for example: /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[02:09] <xangua> or gtk-transmission, one of those
[02:09] <potential> Thank you xangua.
[02:09] <xangua> !pm | usr13_
[02:10] <usr13_> xangua: I did not ask a question, just sharing information.
[02:11] <xangua> usr13_: pleas don't and neither call anyone names
[02:13] <usr13_> xangua: Your line of conversation is OT.
[02:18] <Guest89497> Does anybody have any experience on trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 to an older Dell desktop?  I had no problem installing a dual boot on an HP laptop, but the install hangs at the Ubuntu One screen.
[02:19] <b1g3m> Guest: What version?
[02:19] <b1g3m> Guest: Are you trying to boot from USB or CD?
[02:19] <Guest89497> It's a Dell inspiron 530 from 2008ish.
[02:20] <b1g3m> Guest: USB or CD?
[02:20] <Guest89497> CD.
[02:22] <b1g3m> I had a bit of the same issues. Are you getting a message saying the installer crashed?
[02:22] <Guest89497> No, it's not giving a message.  It's just hanging.
[02:22] <FuuqUmiist> hey friends! :)
[02:23] <Guest89497> The icon continues to spin.  I left it overnight last night and it was still hanging.
[02:23] <b1g3m> Does this happen after or before the "Try Ubuntu/Install Ubuntu" menu?
[02:24] <b1g3m> Hello FuuqUmiist!
[02:24] <FuuqUmiist> i like to pretend i have friends :(
[02:24] <Guest89497> It's after that.
[02:24] <Guest89497> I get through the location screens and it created a partition, but when it gets to the point where it asks you about whether you want to sign on with Ubuntu One, that screen just hangs.
[02:32] <t3flon> hey
[02:32] <t3flon> im trying to reinstall ubuntu from a flash disk, but my pc isnt giving me the option to boot into the flash drive
[02:32] <t3flon> is there anyway I can do this in the terminal?
[02:32] <b1g3m> !ask|t3flon
[02:32] <t3flon> !ask
[02:32] <b1g3m> !ask|b1g3m
[02:33] <t3flon> huhh
[02:33] <b1g3m> sorry, whats the computer?
[02:33] <t3flon> asus x401a
[02:34] <b1g3m> You've checked bios for usb boot?
[02:34] <t3flon> everything is in the bios as it should to boot into the USB, but its just not happening
[02:34] <t3flon> yeah man
[02:35] <b1g3m> Then your USB is not set up right. Did you set the USB up on windows or mac?
[02:35] <t3flon> uhhh
[02:35] <t3flon> netsplit
[02:35] <t3flon> i did it in ubuntu
[02:35] <t3flon> with the startup disk creator
[02:36] <b1g3m> hmm...
[02:36] <b1g3m> What are you getting when you turn the computer on?
[02:37] <b1g3m> Error boot? Or any messages?
[02:37] <t3flon> when I set it to boot to the flash, it boots straight to the BIOS
[02:38] <t3flon> maybe a flash  error?
[02:39] <t3flon> flash drive error
[02:39] <t3flon> i mean
[02:39] <b1g3m> That's what I was going to ask next, if you tried another drive...
[02:39] <t3flon> just gotta dig one up haha
[02:39] <t3flon> do you know of anything i can do via terminal ?
[02:39] <t3flon> thanks for the help btw blg3m
[02:40] <b1g3m> No problem, we'll figure this out.
[02:40] <t3flon> haha yeah
[02:41] <t3flon> on the ubuntu website it says press f12 upon booting up..are they just guessing thats the general key for BIOS?
[02:41] <t3flon> mines f2
[02:41] <b1g3m> Are you pressing that when you boot?
[02:41] <t3flon> havent tried it yet
[02:41] <t3flon> ill report back :P
[02:42] <b1g3m> I'll be here.
[02:42] <t3flon> haha
[02:42] <t3flon> thanks man
[02:42] <t3flon> appreciate it
[02:42] <b1g3m> np
[03:12] <pack^> someone having fun flooding tonight.
[03:31] <fdr> hi all
[03:34] <fdr> I just installed trusty and... where did the keyboard layout options go ? I'm trying to swap my ctrl -> caps ...
[03:34] <t3flon> hey
[03:34] <t3flon> I got it working!
[03:35] <t3flon> did 2 things, not sure which one it was
[03:35] <t3flon> tried a new flash, also went into GRUB menu and found the option there
[03:35] <t3flon> was probably the new flash
[03:36] <pack^> wonder how many more netsplits?
[03:37] <t3flon> one more n00b question for yall
[03:37] <t3flon> whats the terminal cmd to get chrome from the repositories ?
[03:37] <t3flon> its not on the ubuntu store
[03:38] <pack^> tried looking in synaptic?
[03:39] <t3flon> nah I havent tried looking there
[03:39] <Froodle> How can I add GVim to the Unity menu?  12.04 LTS
[03:39] <pack^> that is your complete repository.
[03:39] <t3flon> thanks pack
[03:40] <pack^> t3flon: click on search and type chrome then enter
[03:41] <t3flon> thanks..is chromium google chrome?
[03:42] <pack^> t3flon: yeah stripped of all the google stuff.
[03:43] <t3flon> oh nice
[03:43] <t3flon> thanks alot
[03:43] <pack^> yep. lots of programs to do LOTS of things if you have never looked before.
[03:43] <Froodle> Well, to put it another way, why doesn't GVim appear in the recent apps section of the dash?
[03:44] <pack^> Froodle: usually it is a terminal program...it runs in a terminal
[03:44] <JCM83> What's the gnome equivalent of MS  paint?
[03:44] <Froodle> Vim, yes.  GVim has its own window, complete with a launcher icon?
[03:45] <Froodle> Er, not a question.
[03:45] <b1g3m> JCM83: Gimp?
[03:45] <pack^> Froodle: just use the dash to find it and most times it is automatically added.
[03:45] <JCM83> Geez, that seems overpowered for this purpose.
[03:46] <JCM83> There's no lightweight image manipulation in ubuntu?
[03:46] <Froodle> I'm afraid it isn't adding, pack^ .
[03:46] <t3flon> pack^, what kind of things? where should I look, through the synaptic?
[03:46] <b1g3m> Gnome Paint Drawing Editor
[03:46] <pack^> Froodle: not sure what to tell you. Unity works different. You can use alacarte to edit the menu in most other distros but unity is different.
[03:47] <b1g3m> Or GNU Paint
[03:47] <pack^> t3flon: yeah. just click all in the left column. it will separate into different groups.
[03:47] <b1g3m> t3flon!
[03:47] <b1g3m> I thought you got lost!
[03:47] <Froodle> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-applications/+bug/1062053
[03:47] <Froodle> Oh well.
[03:48] <t3flon> thanks pack^
[03:48] <t3flon> blg3m!
[03:48] <t3flon> im on a fresh copy of ubuntu!
[03:48] <b1g3m> BOOM! What was wrong?
[03:48] <t3flon> tried a new flash drive, and also went into GRUB through startup
[03:48] <t3flon> not sure which one it was
[03:48] <t3flon> im guessing the new flash did it
[03:48] <b1g3m> Haha, go figure...
[03:49] <t3flon> 12.04 is freshhhh :D
[03:49] <Froodle> -ish
[03:49] <b1g3m> Atleast you're up and running. That's what I just installed.
[03:49] <pack^> soon 14.04
[03:49] <t3flon> thanks again for the help
[03:49] <t3flon> yeah, anyone running 13.10?
[03:49] <pack^> yes
[03:49] <t3flon> hows that
[03:49] <b1g3m> Enjoy!
[03:49] <pack^> unity is a bit better
[03:50] <t3flon> thanks blg3m
[03:50] <b1g3m> stable?
[03:50] <pack^> more programs to tweak it.
[03:51] <b1g3m> What's with all the netsplits tonight?
[03:51] <pack^> don't know. Mine quit with a 'flooded' error.
[03:52] <b1g3m> Dropped down to 180 people. So I jumped out and it took like 10 minutes to reconnect.
[03:52] <t3flon> chromium is awesome
[03:52] <t3flon> just a cleaner version of chrome
[03:52] <pack^> yes
[03:52] <b1g3m> I haven't installed anything yet. Just xchat. I'm doing a lot of reading...
[03:53] <t3flon> blg3m the world is your oyster with linux
[03:53] <t3flon> thats why I love it
[03:53] <t3flon> lol
[03:53] <b1g3m> Haha, I'm actually quite new here. :P
[03:54] <pack^> I started long ago but have had no experience with IT type work in linux. I think I started back in the 90's.
[03:54] <budo_> it keeps reading broadcom sta wireless driver is installed and currently in use, and it isnt
[03:55] <budo_> this is for Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[03:55] <b1g3m> pack^: Wow. I work in IT and have no experience with Linux.
[03:55] <pack^> heh
[03:55] <b1g3m> Plot twist...
[03:55] <b1g3m> I work for Apple... :/
[03:55] <b1g3m> Hahah!
[03:55] <t3flon> hah nice
[03:55] <pack^> b1g3m: I went to college for computer science back in 80's and learned unix.
[03:56] <t3flon> i work for MLB advanced media, and all the systems are completely run on linux
[03:57] <b1g3m> I wish I grew up earlier... I was born in the 80's...
[03:57] <pack^> b1g3m: you should be familiar with unix since the kernel is unix based in apple.
[03:57] <b1g3m> Oh, I am...
[03:57] <b1g3m> Is there a single user boot in Ubuntu?
[03:58] <t3flon> I've gotta learn more about the terminal
[03:58] <t3flon> its alot of fun
[03:58] <pack^> t3flon: learn to script with bash. saves a lot of work.
[03:58] <b1g3m> t3flon: telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
[03:58] <t3flon> thanks bros
[03:58]  * b1g3m chuckles
[03:59] <t3flon> ive got alot of downtime at work, I really wanna start learning some unix stuff
[03:59] <t3flon> so I can work in SYSops
[03:59] <t3flon> :D
[04:00] <b1g3m> t3flon: general location?
[04:01] <t3flon> i work in the traffic dept of MLB.com
[04:02] <b1g3m> nice dude
[04:02] <t3flon> thanks man, would love to start learning unix so I can make myself more valuable
[04:02] <t3flon> work with the sys dudes
[04:03] <b1g3m> I just want to work in a computer bunker...
[04:03] <b1g3m> Lol!
[04:03] <t3flon> hahaha
[04:03] <pack^> t3flon: go to distrowatch.com and find a bsd (unix) and install on a spare (old) computer and play with it.
[04:04] <t3flon> thanks pack^, definitely will check that out
[04:04] <t3flon> I work in a comp bunker but I want to get deeper into the bunker
[04:04] <t3flon> what do you do blg3m?
[04:05] <b1g3m> technician for apple
[04:05] <t3flon> nice man
[04:05] <b1g3m> yeah, pays the bills
[04:05] <b1g3m> haha
[04:06] <t3flon> yep I feel ya, where you located?
[04:06] <b1g3m> here in VA
[04:06] <b1g3m> you?
[04:06] <t3flon> nice
[04:06] <t3flon> im in nyc
[04:06] <b1g3m> Dude! I was born in Ossining
[04:06] <t3flon> oh nice, very close to me!
[04:07] <b1g3m> my old house was on somerstown road
[04:07] <b1g3m> haha
[04:07] <b1g3m> thats crazy
[04:07] <t3flon> howd you end up in VA?
[04:07] <b1g3m> wife...
[04:07] <t3flon> exciting
[04:07] <t3flon> haha
[04:08] <b1g3m> haha indeed
[04:08] <b1g3m> alright broham, I friended you. maybe ill run into you later. I'm out for the night.
[04:09] <t3flon> nice broheem
[04:09] <t3flon> night, ill see you around for sure
[04:30] <icedtea> what is the gtk2 development package name in the most recent stable version of ubuntu?
[04:31] <icedtea> hrm looks like  libgtk2.0-dev
[04:42] <budo_> anyone offering help?
[04:45] <xangua> !ask | budo_
[04:46] <xangua> mmmm the bot is also dead¿ :'(
[04:46] <budo_>  Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)  is not working
[04:47] <budo_> I've read all kinds of discussion boards for hrs following different instructions
[04:47] <budo_> still no luck
[04:48] <pack^> budo_: I'm not that good with wireless but whoever helps you will need to know exactly what you have done and what your system says.
[04:49] <budo_> ok. I'm great at following instructions.
[04:49] <netbrain> hey
[04:49] <pack^> you on 12.04 or 13.10?
[04:49] <netbrain> hello people
[04:50] <netbrain> 13 xubuntu
[04:50] <diecastarts> hey all again.. I really need someone to help me with bumblebee. I can get the error if needed again.. but I been tring everything i found on the web and it all no good.
[04:52] <netbrain> what is that
[04:52] <diecastarts> reinstalled like the web says and rebooted many times. and still getting this error when i try to run optirun [ 1105.899759] [ERROR]The Bumblebee daemon has not been started yet or the socket path /var/run/bumblebee.socket was incorrect.
[04:52] <diecastarts> [ 1105.899844] [ERROR]Could not connect to bumblebee daemon - is it running?
[04:52] <netbrain> so what exacly you trying to install
[04:53] <netbrain> and i help with that
[04:54] <diecastarts> bumblebee-nvidia bbswitch-dmk <__ forget that without looking up  and the linux headers
[04:54] <netbrain> oh
[04:54] <netbrain> well thats real complicate
[04:54] <budo_> 12.04.4 LTS, Precise Pangolin
[04:55] <budo_> I'm actually on xubuntu, if that makes a difference
[04:58] <pack^> budo_: to be honest I have an old inspiron 8100 that I tried the xubuntu on. Couldn't get the broadcom to work on it either. But I did find another distro that runs fine and the wireless works. Never spent the time finding out why it wouldn't run under xubuntu.
[04:58] <diecastarts> what is the command to reinstall with apt-get??
[04:59] <pack^> diecastarts: If using apt I would purge first then do another install.
[05:00] <budo_> what was your broadcom model  pack
[05:00] <diecastarts> k thank you
[05:00] <budo_> was it identiccal to mine?
[05:01] <pack^> budo_: don't remember and it is not where I am now. It was made by Belkin (pcmcia) but was broadcom.
[05:01] <budo_> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[05:01] <budo_> ok. what distro did you choose
[05:01] <diecastarts> pack^, actually was just going to try to reinstall all these sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia primus linux-headers-generic but if purge linux-headers-generic will that be bad???
[05:01] <pack^> budo_: that would not be appropriate on this channel.
[05:02] <budo_> I already wasted 4 CDs jumping from distro to distro.......trying to get this card to run
[05:02] <budo_> ok, can you pm it to me
[05:02] <pack^> diecastarts: hmmm. Might not be good. server or unity or what?
[05:02] <diecastarts> Lubuntu
[05:03] <pack^> budo_: there is no guarantee what I put on it would work with yours.
[05:03] <pack^> diecastarts: just use synaptic to go in and 'remove-all' with the bumblebee then when it finishes do a complete reinstall.
[05:04] <pack^> diecastarts: I would imagine though you will need to go edit the config files to get the right port to work.
[05:04] <diecastarts> budo_, i used to have problem with wireless long ago. but it was simple command to turn on the card for me.. but i forget what it was.. look up stuff about wlan0 commands maybe
[05:04] <pack^> diecastarts: you may not really need to uninstall it.
[05:05] <budo_> ok
[05:05] <diecastarts> pack^, k thank pack
[05:08] <pack^> budo_: just curious. what does it say on your bar about connections?
[05:09] <dupingping> Hi
[05:09] <dupingping> may i just a question?
[05:09] <dupingping> How to run desktop at xterm?
[05:11] <pack^> I think all the linux guru's are taking a nap right now.
[05:14] <budo_> the icon never appears
[05:14] <pack^> budo_: open a terminal and type ifconfig
[05:15] <budo_> I was making some changes. now my wireless isn't there anymore
[05:15] <pack^> you changed something bad then.
[05:15] <budo_> read and followed some new instuctions
[05:16] <pack^> It must show in ifconfig.
[05:16] <jose> alguien abla spañol
[05:16] <jose> habla español
[05:16] <pack^> no habla espanol
[05:16] <Unit193> !es | jose
[05:17] <budo_> how do I remove all the drives and files pertinent to my wireless?
[05:17] <budo_> so I can start over
[05:17] <pack^> haha. budo_ , sounds like fun but you might as well just reinstall to make sure you got everything.
[05:18] <pack^> If you don't know what you are doing it would be MUCH faster and there would be no errors.
[05:19] <budo_> I remember that 12.04 ubuntu working right out the box more or less, but they changed the size for it not to fit on CD
[05:20] <pack^> yeah. dvd or usb flash drive
[05:21] <dupingping> !unuty
[05:21] <dupingping> !unity
[05:21] <sixbangmex> budo_: would be cool if they had a ubuntu dumb terminal version
[05:21] <budo_> can you install from within xubuntu and have the entire installation run from ethernet connection?
[05:21] <dupingping> How to run desktop at xterm?
[05:21] <budo_> yup
[05:22] <budo_> startx?  duping
[05:23] <pack^> only if he has all of xorg installed
[05:23] <dupingping> oh
[05:23] <dupingping> budo_ startx is not installed.
[05:23] <dupingping> budo_ i want one like startkde.
[05:24] <pack^> dupingping: then why didn't you install kubuntu?
[05:24] <suriya> hi
[05:26] <kdworak> Hello guys can anyone help me with a bash script?
[05:26] <kdworak> i get a error on my if statement
[05:30] <kdworak> Hello guys can anyone help me with a bash script?
[05:33] <atronx> looking for help to modify gfx card 2d core clock to set a min of 500mhz , due to HDMI audio bug that happens when 2D clock speed dips. where can i find the config file to modify? amd radeon 7970
[05:36] <rajesh> Hello
[05:37] <rajesh> I am using dell inspirion 5520 and having problem with brightness.. Anybody please help
[05:37] <pack^> atronx: wouldn't that be in a amd forum?
[05:37] <rajesh> i have tried... but not getting help
[05:39] <atronx> pack^ plenty of windows tweak mods to do it , thought there might be a simple tweak to a config file I could make in ubuntu
[05:39] <rajesh> My graphics card is Intel hd 4000, I have tried xrandr, xbacklight, but all produces the same output...
[05:43] <dupingping> pack^ i want to run desktop with unity.
[05:43] <dupingping> pack^ i don't need any other,
[05:44] <dupingping> pack^ you may help me, i think.
[05:45] <kdworak> Hi guys
[05:45] <kdworak> VARIABLE=$(ps aux|awk '{print $4}'); if [ "${VARIABLE}" -gt "0.0" ]; then echo "${VARIABLE}"; fi
[05:46] <kdworak> can anyone tell me why this doesnt work
[05:46] <kdworak> bash script
[05:46] <kdworak> iptable: yo man u here?
[05:47] <kdworak> llutz: hey you online?
[05:51] <Gnea> kdworak: it only works if there's enough data being fed to it
[05:51] <kdworak> Gnea: What do u mean
[05:52] <Gnea> kdworak: do you understand what that script is trying to do?
[05:53] <kdworak> well i understand what I want it to do, thats about it
[05:53] <Gnea> please explain
[05:53] <kdworak> I can tell you that with that script im try to find the most cpu intensive proccesses and find their pid
[05:53] <Gnea> well
[05:53] <kdworak> so im definately missing the pid
[05:53] <Gnea> what you're actually getting are the most memory intensive processes... sort of
[05:54] <kdworak> but im also getting something i dont want
[05:54] <kdworak> yeah im getting all the CPU values
[05:54] <kdworak> even the 0.0
[05:55] <kdworak> the if statement -gt option only works on integers doesnt it...
[05:55] <Gnea> no, you're getting %MEM not %CPU. take a closer look at ps aux | head
[05:55] <Venoryk> Why is it so difficult to configure wireless via console?
[05:55] <Gnea> kdworak: ps aux | awk '{print $3}'  <-- ought to give you %CPU
[05:56] <kdworak> Gnea: Im sorry i must have did the typo out of rushing, I have it for cpu in my script
[05:56] <kdworak> yeah it should be 3
[05:56] <Gnea> kdworak: no problem
[05:56] <kdworak> but i guess i should be printing 1 and 3 to get pid and cpu
[05:56] <kdworak> still tho, i want it to print only the 2-3 most cpu intensive ones
[05:56] <Gnea> kdworak: but, if I understand what you're saying, you want the PIDs of those processes, yes?
[05:57] <kdworak> yes
[05:57] <kdworak> Gnea: yes
[05:57] <Gnea> okay
[05:57] <Gnea> kdworak: you're on the right track, but you're getting derailed too soon :)
[05:57] <Gnea> you need to keep that list somewhere
[05:57] <kdworak> Gnea: im a noob sys admin, i been at this for a couple days
[05:57] <Gnea> kdworak: understood, I've been in your shoes
[05:58] <kdworak> Gnea: anyway u could point in the right direction without giving me the anwser?
[05:58] <kdworak> lol
[05:58] <Gnea> kdworak: sure! :D
[05:58] <kdworak> Gnea: awesome
[05:58] <Venoryk> Anybody know how to configure wireless from cli?
[05:59] <Gnea> kdworak: hint: the print function in awk can print multiple parts of a single line simply by adding another delimiter
[05:59] <kdworak> Gnea: awk '{print $1, $3}'  like so???
[06:00] <Gnea> kdworak: try without the comma
[06:00] <Gnea> Venoryk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic
[06:00] <kdworak> Gnea: ok
[06:01] <kdworak> Gnea: now that I have 2 delimeters, the if statement will have to change to if [ "$3" -gt "0.0" ]  ????
[06:01] <kdworak> Gnea: or did i just say something stupid
[06:02] <Gnea> kdworak: no...
[06:03] <kdworak> Gnea: oh crap, pid and cpu is $2 and $3, so disregard that $1
[06:03] <Gnea> kdworak: you shouldn't need to change to "$3" (that's bad)
[06:03] <kdworak> well no my original scrip is this
[06:03] <Gnea> kdworak: also, you don't always have to use double-quotes in bash
[06:03] <kdworak> VARIABLE=$(ps aux|awk '{print $4}'); if [ "${VARIABLE}" -gt "0.0" ]; then echo "${VARIABLE}"; fi
[06:03] <Gnea> kdworak: there's a time and place for double, single and back quotes
[06:03] <Gnea> your if-statement, for instance, might not need the double quotes within
[06:03] <kdworak> Gnea: but will it still work with double quotes?
[06:04] <Gnea> kdworak: it might not
[06:04] <kdworak> Gnea: ill try it different ways
[06:04] <Gnea> okay
[06:06] <kdworak> it works with single quotes for the 0.0 but needs doubel for the ${VAR}
[06:07] <Gnea> sounds about right
[06:07] <kdworak> Gnea: i have a feeling my if statement is crap
[06:07] <kdworak> Gnea: the 0.0 doesnt work with -gt
[06:07] <Gnea> kdworak: I wouldn't say it's crap, but it could use a little work
[06:07] <kdworak> Gnea: it gives me all cpu values
[06:07] <Gnea> kdworak: maybe -gt isn't what you need
[06:07] <kdworak> Gnea: hmmm
[06:08] <Gnea> kdworak: you could try !=
[06:08] <Gnea> or =!
[06:08] <kdworak> Gnea: what are those?
[06:08] <Gnea> equals-not
[06:08] <kdworak> Gnea: interesting i will google it
[06:09] <Gnea> say if you wanted to look for all 0.0 values, you'd say == '0.0', but for all else, != '0.0'
[06:09] <Gnea> sort of like reverse grep
[06:10] <kdworak> Gnea: oh i see
[06:10] <Unit193> (You can actually grep for all lines not containing a line with -v too )
[06:10] <Gnea> Unit193: precisely.
[06:10] <kdworak> Gnea: ok slow down Unit haha
[06:10] <kdworak> greping for lines not containing a line???
[06:10] <kdworak> oh i get it
[06:11] <Gnea> :-)
[06:11] <kdworak> all lines not containing 0.0 ? so it prints all 0.1 0.2 and so on?
[06:11] <Gnea> exactly
[06:11] <kdworak> Gnea: yeah that would work
[06:11] <Gnea> then you could extract PIDs from there
[06:12] <kdworak> hmmm let me work it around and ill come back with questions
[06:12] <Gnea> sounds good
[06:16] <kdworak> Gnea: I just realized something my then statement makes no sense
[06:16] <kdworak> Gnea: im telling it to check for all lines other then 0.0 and then saying echo ${VAR} which just prints all the cpu values including the 0.0
[06:16] <kdworak> Gnea: correct?
[06:18] <Gnea> kdworak: yeah, you'll probably want to clean the list up. A for loop could do that.
[06:19] <kdworak> Gnea: ok thats the clue i needed, i know nothing of for loops so ill have to work thru some examples
[06:20] <Gnea> kdworak: this is a bit rudimentary... for i in `ps aux | awk '{print $3 $4}'`; do j=`echo $i `; echo "$j"; done
[06:21] <jeffsf> #teamacid
[06:21]  * Gnea hands jeffsf a /join
[06:21] <jeffsf> thank you
[06:21] <Gnea> :-)
[06:22] <kdworak> Gnea: lol rudimentary to you, new territory to me
[06:23] <horny-sama> terminal file name autocomplete does not work for me
[06:23] <horny-sama> type tab nothing happen
[06:23] <horny-sama> nevermind
[06:23] <horny-sama> got it
[06:23] <kdworak> horny-sama: haha
[06:23] <Gnea> kdworak: play around with it :-)
[06:24] <pranav> ifup -a command causes kernel panic, please help
[06:24] <kdworak> Gnea: so i dont need the if statement anymore?
[06:25] <Gnea> kdworak: you may or may not need it
[06:25] <kdworak> Gnea: haha ok
[06:25] <Gnea> pranav: what changed?
[06:25] <basil> Hi I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04. Yesterday, when I rebooted, it showed 2 fails- Starting configure network drive and Starting configure virtual network drive. Can anyone shed some light please?
[06:26] <pranav> i changed /etc/network/interface, to add wlan
[06:26] <pranav> auto
[06:26] <Gnea> pranav: well, do you know that doing so breaks NetworkManager and wicd?
[06:27] <pranav> Gnea:i do not have network manager, i am working in kubuntu emebedded image
[06:28] <horny-sama> after writing all those asm code I feel like I am in trash 80
[06:28] <Gnea> pranav: well ifup is a shell script, so maybe if you turn on debugging inside of it, it might tell you what's triggering the panic
[06:30] <pranav> Gnea:it is a binary, actually inside busybox
[06:30] <pranav> but the call is being made to it in /etc/init.d/networking.sh
[06:31] <Gnea> pranav: hmmm, are you trying to do wireless?
[06:32] <pranav> Gnea:it discovers, obtains the lease by AP, and just around when it tries to add DNS, says: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 011ee00d
[06:32] <pranav> Gnea:yes
[06:32] <pranav> Gnea:should i remove all wlan0 lines from etc/network/interfaces ?
[06:32] <pranav> i heard its good only for eth0
[06:32] <Gnea> pranav: do you happen to know what it's going to provide for the dns servers?
[06:33] <pranav> Gnea:yes, the dns serevr, the gateway, and the serverip, all are my Netgear router <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:35] <pranav> actually during execution of ifup -a also gives me an IP of ..1.2 and lease, but discovery takes some time
[06:36] <Gnea> pranav: can you add your device's mac address to the router and make the ip static?
[06:37] <horny-sama> freenode is under nsa attack
[06:37] <kdworak> Gnea: Can i do multiple 'for' lines like so:  for i in `ps aux|awk '{print $2}'`; for c in `ps aux|awk '{print $3}'`; do ......
[06:37] <bazhang> horny-sama, thats not on topic here
[06:37] <horny-sama> fair enough
[06:37] <pranav> Gnea:oh.. will try to
[06:38] <Gnea> kdworak: that could get messy, it might be easier to just export each for loop to a function or variable
[06:38] <bb1988> hey
[06:39] <kdworak> Gnea: got it
[06:39] <bb1988> I need to cron something at 6:55 and 14:55
[06:39] <Gnea> kdworak: I prefer functions for that
[06:39] <bb1988> can someone send me a crontab example?
[06:40] <lhax> :D
[06:41] <basil> Hi my new install of Ubuntu 12.04 will ping www.google, it'll ping the gateway and it'll ping <IP_ADDRESS>. But I can't access the Internet. Any ideas?
[06:42] <basil> The error in FF is "Unable to connect"
[06:43] <lhax> test client
[06:43] <lhax> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:3000/
[06:43] <lhax>  Join #Ubuntu
[06:43] <pranav> Gnea:i remove the line "ifup -a" from the etc/init.d/networking.sh script and when it booted, did it manually.. seems working, can ping :D
[06:43] <pranav> thanks
[06:43] <lhax> :/
[06:43] <Gnea> pranav: cheers
[06:46] <pranav> Gnea: yup, but can't rely more on hit/trials, is there a good book or so, on linux/ubuntu stuffs?
[06:46] <bb1988> anyone know?
[06:46] <pranav> *resource
[06:52] <kdworak> Gnea: Can I make variables out of the functions i make?
[06:54] <Gnea> kdworak: you could..
[07:02] <kdworak> Gnea: im stuck, i have figured something out tho, ps aux|awk '{print $3}'|grep -v 0.0|sort -n|tail -3  gives me the 3 most intensive cpu values... but thats where it stops
[07:04] <basil> Anyone got ideas for troubleshooting "unable to connect" error in FF. I can ping most destinations - but can't access Internet
[07:04] <pack^> basil: is your dns working?
[07:05] <basil> how do i tell ...sorry?
[07:07] <pack^> basil: open browser and put http://<IP_ADDRESS> and see if it connects
[07:08] <basil> unbale to connect
[07:08] <basil> unable
[07:08] <pack^> basil: my bad. gave you a bad ip
[07:10] <Gnea> kdworak: you got me wondering... it's possible that we're trying to over-engineer this
[07:10] <pack^> basil: try this one http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[07:10] <Gnea> kdworak: you should look into the -o argument to the ps command
[07:11] <basil> unable to connect
[07:11] <kdworak> Gnea: ok i will
[07:13] <pack^> basil: if you can ping <IP_ADDRESS> but firefox won't connect using that ip then you must have a port problem or firewall problem.
[07:15] <basil> pack^>I can ping the IP....but FF returns "Unable to connect still"
[07:15] <blahsphemer> x
[07:16] <basil> I've tested port 80...shows it's open
[07:16] <blahsphemer> I am helping someone port an app from windows to linux
[07:16] <blahsphemer> Is there an equivalent for KeWaitForSingleObject in linux?
[07:16] <pack^> basil: there is something blocking ff. Not sure what. Don't really have time to walk through it with you.
[07:17] <basil> thanks for your responses...Appreciate it
[07:17] <pack^> sorry not more help
[07:17] <basil> ongoing battle!!
[07:17] <blahsphemer> Can I be asking kernel dev questions here?
[07:22] <kdworak> Gnea: ok so the -o option i can specify which columns will get displayed correct?
[07:22] <Gnea> kdworak: yes.
[07:22] <kdworak> like this ps -o %C %p ?
[07:23] <Gnea> more like this: ps -eo pid,comm,%cpu
[07:23] <blahsphemer> How can I make a usermode thread sleep till a kernel mode thread decides to wake it up and send some data to it?
[07:23] <Gnea> kdworak: but you can put them in any order you want
[07:24] <Gnea> kdworak: and you can add/remove whatever you want
[07:24] <kdworak> Gnea: nice
[07:24] <Gnea> indeed
[07:24] <kdworak> Gnea: might not need any for loops or functions after all
[07:24] <blahsphemer> Anyone?
[07:25] <Gnea> kdworak: haha yeah - good stuff to know, though
[07:26] <kdworak> Gnea: can u think of a beginner sys admin script i could write that would use for loops and functions?
[07:28] <kdworak> Gnea: this is what im going with ps -eo pid,pcpu|grep -v 0.0|sort -n|tail -3
[07:29] <kdworak> I had this but its too bulky: ps aux|awk '{print $2 $3}'|grep -v 0.0|sort -n|tail -3
[07:32] <kdworak> Gnea: you still there?
[07:48] <kdworak> Gnea: you still here?
[07:49] <PENlS-Wrinkle> When will Mate 1.8 repository be available?
[07:56] <ikonia> ned_flanders: this channel deals with ubuntu support, does your question have something to do with ubuntu ?
[07:56] <lars_> no, sorry ikonia, that link was not helpful
[07:56] <ned_flanders> yes, i am using the web browser in ubuntu and i can't seem to be able to join codewars
[07:56] <lars_> it kept referring to a theme tab, which I do not have
[07:56] <lars_> Iḿ using Kubuntu 12.04, so I do not have a theme tab
[07:56] <ikonia> lars_: that was for the current kde 4.12 release, - change the search parameter to match the kde version you have
[07:56] <lars_> Search perimeter for what?
[07:56] <ikonia> for the kde version to match the same kde version you are using
[07:56] <ikonia> if something has changed in kde 4.12 (that search) from your version, then searching against your version should resolve that
[07:56] <lars_> oh, you mean I need to do a search for ẗhemes?
[07:56] <ikonia> no
[07:56] <ikonia> I've just linked you to the documentation on how to change themes/icons - that documentation is for kde 4.12, if you are not using 4.12, checking those same documents against the version you are using should explain what to do
[07:57] <lars_> ok, you mean I need to use my built in KDE help files to find ¨themes¨, ikonia?
[07:58] <ikonia> lars_: I'm sorry, I can't be any clearer than I've just been, "I've just linked you to the official documentation for 4.12 - if you are not using 4.12 referencing those same documents against the version you are using will give you the info"
[07:58] <lars_> uh, right, ok, I guess
[07:59] <lars_> I¨ll look at the link again, if that helps
[08:00] <lars_> nope, it did not help, there is only one version on that website, ikonia
[08:00] <ikonia> there isn't
[08:01] <lars_> this is strange, no one uses Kubuntu 12.04 any more?
[08:01] <ikonia> many people do
[08:01] <lars_> Is Kubuntu 12.04 no longer supported?
[08:01] <ikonia> it's supported
[08:02] <lars_> I will try docs.kde.org and look for themes tab for 12.04, may be that will work....
[08:02] <ikonia> thats the doc I've just given you
[08:03] <lars_> so, kubuntu 12.04 has no themes tab, and Kubuntu 12.04 has no help files related to the themes tab?
[08:04] <ikonia> who said that ?
[08:04] <lars_> I did
[08:04] <lars_> Sorry, I assumed that
[08:04] <Wiz_KeeD> Hello guys
[08:05] <lars_> are you saying Kubuntu 12.04 does have a themes tab somewhere?
[08:05] <ikonia> I've not said that at all
[08:06] <lars_> ok, then my assumption that Kubuntu 12.04 does not have a themes tab would be correct
[08:06] <Wiz_KeeD> Is there ANY possibility that after deleting my /home partition and moving the contents of /home onto the primary partition mounted to / that I have issues connecting to ssh to a remote host?  http://pastie.org/8886228
[08:06] <ikonia> I don't believe it is
[08:06] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: what's the actual problem
[08:07] <lars_> however, Kubuntu 12.04 does have KDE help files
[08:07] <lars_> Somewhere in those help files is a reference to the trash icon
[08:07] <Armo> Hi all. How  do I get device information (e.g.: brand, model, etc.) via the command line?
[08:07] <lars_> that is what I need to find
[08:07] <ikonia> Armo: dmidecode ?
[08:09] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys I am having this issue every single kernel upgrade https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/1289197
[08:10] <Wiz_KeeD> Hello ikonia, it seems that everyone else can connect to that ip to ssh just me, so I'm thinking either ip blacklisted or originally though some public-key was messed up in the proccess of moving the home folder
[08:10] <Wiz_KeeD> I will keep investigating
[08:10] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: whats the actual problem
[08:10] <Armo> ikonia, Yup! Thanks man.
[08:11] <lars_> Ok, ikonia, thanks for trying to help me, at this point, I think it is safe to assume that the trash icon cannot be changed on Kubuntu 12.04, so I will just keep using the strange page icon I have now.  At least I tried.  Spending an hour tryig to fix a trash icon is a waste of time.  This is why I like Windows more.
[08:11] <ikonia> lars_: wrong assumption, but "ok"
[08:11] <Psil0Cybin> Hey ikonia :D If you are around and have time I would love to get my kernel / driver issue sorted out :) I keep filing bug reports :( silly me https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/1289197
[08:11] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: /boot/config-3.2.0-60-generic: No such file or directory
[08:11] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: thats the key
[08:11] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: it's because you are using PAE
[08:12] <Psil0Cybin> so how do I fix this
[08:12] <lars_> The trash icon on Windows XP works.  The trash icon on Kubuntu 12.04 is pretty lame.  Thatś what I learned today.
[08:12] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: which kernel should I use?
[08:12] <ikonia> lars_: ok, great
[08:12] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: just the generic without the pae? for the same kernel number?
[08:12] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: well, it's looking for the "generic" kernel, but looking at your info you've got PAE installed, so when it checks the kernel version it won't find -generic because it's got pae
[08:12] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: do uname -a now
[08:13] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: lets see what it sees
[08:13] <Psil0Cybin> yea you are correct generic-pae
[08:13] <Psil0Cybin> so how I remove the linux image for generic pae and just get a generic of the same number?
[08:13] <Psil0Cybin> for the kernel?\
[08:13] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: so the script does something like if [ -x /boot/(`uname -r`) ] ;
[08:14] <ikonia> obviously as you have pae it's not going to find the "generic" string it's expecting
[08:14] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: looks like a package bug (without going deep into it)
[08:14] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: if you open the package manager purge the pae kenrel and reboot, I'd put a bet it works "ok"
[08:14] <Psil0Cybin> okay :D
[08:14] <Psil0Cybin> thanks
[08:18] <thewatcher> brand new to ubuntu and linux in general. any recommendations for software to download?
[08:18] <ikonia> just have a look around try to do what you want to do, can't do it, ask how to do it
[08:18] <Ben64> thewafflecaust: depends what you want to do
[08:18] <kdworak> Can anyone think of a beginner sys admin bash script ideas that I can learn to use for loops and functions
[08:18] <ikonia> no point downloading stuff just for the sake of it
[08:18] <Ben64> thewatcher: ^
[08:18] <ikonia> kdworak: make something up
[08:20] <Armo> My system always starts with extremely low brightness. How can I change that?
[08:21] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:21] <cristian_c> How can I export layers from inkscape?
[08:21] <cristian_c> any ideas?
[08:21] <ikonia> try the inkscape channel ?
[08:21] <cristian_c> ok
[08:27] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: thank you, I got the same kernel but just generic without pae and it worked! now using 3.2.0-60-generic.
[08:27] <Psil0Cybin> what is the difference between generic and generic pae?
[08:27] <Psil0Cybin> I got it via synaps and it worked fine, and I removed the generic-pae kernel, so I should be fine? If I keep doing this?
[08:28] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: it's not  technical problem, it's a packaging problem
[08:28] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: and it's just the names
[08:28] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: how much ram do you have in the machine ?
[08:28] <Psil0Cybin> 2GB its a really poor machine
[08:28] <someHuman> Hello!
[08:28] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: perfectly fine then
[08:28] <Psil0Cybin> just for traveling
[08:28] <someHuman> Is this where most Fedora people are?
[08:28] <someHuman> Lol
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> yea that is what i thought but just as a FYI what is the difference between generic and generic-pae?
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> just so I know
[08:29] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: it's basically extened memory support 4+gb
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> ah
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> alright :D
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> so pae = 4+gb?
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> 64bit perhap?
[08:29] <ikonia> bottom line = yes
[08:30] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: if you can't use 64bit and have over 4gb, pae
[08:30] <Psil0Cybin> ahhh
[08:30] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: pretty much never used these days by most
[08:30] <Psil0Cybin> interesting kk ty
[08:30] <Psil0Cybin> lol you have no idea how long I have been struggeling with this issue for nothing
[08:31] <Psil0Cybin> you rock ikonia :D
[08:31] <ikonia> no problem
[08:31] <Psil0Cybin> slowly I am learning more and more about linux
[08:33] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, the volume control is stuck at 0
[08:33] <monkwitdafunk> Does tvtime need pulseaudio?
[08:35] <someHuman> Psil0Cybin: Good! ;)
[08:35] <someHuman> ljsoftnet: Is that Ubuntu TV?
[08:35] <someHuman> Like, Ubuntu on your television?
[08:35] <ikonia> no, it's a tv app
[08:35] <ljsoftnet> someHuman no, its just a tv app
[08:35] <someHuman> Ah lol.
[08:35] <someHuman> What channels have you gone into so far?
[08:35] <someHuman> Is it good?
[08:35] <ikonia> someHuman: it's worth checking the topic of this channel
[08:36] <ikonia> someHuman: this channel is used for ubuntu support discussion
[08:36] <monkwitdafunk> Try looking up the info from the repositories on a gui frontend
[08:36] <ikonia> someHuman: there are generic linux channels such as ##linux, or chat channels such as #defocus, but this one is for ubuntu discussion only
[08:36] <someHuman> Ok, ty.
[08:37] <Uragan> hi
[08:37] <Uragan> all
[08:38] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, the volume control is stuck at 0
[08:39] <Uragan> can you help me? i have a little problem - i`am using ubuntu 12.04 serv LTS. Oxine playing videos, amixer controls audio, and amixer says me in logs: "amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Line',0"
[08:40] <marcus_> Hi! I'm having trouble getting my SAS-controllers working under 13.10 server. It seems there is a problem with the controllers hanging. dmesg-> http://pastebin.com/XCcfsB87
[08:40] <marcus_> any suggestions on how to proceed?
[08:41] <df3d2> I have a big problem trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on a gigabyte 990FXA-ud3 if I don't have IOMMU enabled in bios, It wont boot to the live-session, but if i have it disabled, I have no usb/kb mouse in the live session!!!!
[08:42] <Ben64> df3d2: unless i'm mistaken, "don't have it enabled" == "disabled"
[08:42] <df3d2> Ben64: so its like this
[08:42] <TomyWork> unless it's a tristate checkbox
[08:42] <df3d2> Ben64: if I have IOMMU "disabled" in bios, I can boot to the ubuntu installer
[08:43] <df3d2> Ben64: but, I have no usb kb/mouse functionality
[08:43] <df3d2> Ben64: if I enable IOMMU It never boots to the live-session, it says it can't find it
[08:44] <Ben64> sounds like you should leave it "disabled" then, and try another keyboard
[08:45] <df3d2> Ben64: there is nothing wrong with the keyboard
[08:45] <Ben64> ok, so you should try another keyboard
[08:46] <df3d2> plz don't treat me like a moron this kb works fine I just pulled it from another ubuntu machine
[08:46] <Ben64> listen. this is basic troubleshooting. if a keyboard isn't working, try another keyboard.
[08:46] <df3d2> lol
[08:48] <TomyWork> you eliminate potential error sources so you can focus on the rest in the chain
[08:48] <SASDOE> hey guys I succesfully installed b43 for wireless and can scan, but not join a network..
[08:48] <df3d2> k other kb doesnt work
[08:48] <df3d2> can we move on now
[08:49] <SASDOE> how can I fix this?
[08:49] <df3d2> nvm figured it out my self
[08:50] <df3d2> problem was ubuntu wasn't working with the usb3 ports on the board
[08:50] <df3d2> put the flash drive in a usb2 port and it works now, kb works with IOMMU=enabled
[08:52] <df3d2> a lesson in basic troubleshooting is when you pull a working component out of one machine it is probably still working 10 seconds later
[08:52] <SASDOE> aslo after a while I can no longer scan.. Driver is correctly set
[08:54] <SASDOE> So no one knows anything about wireless?
[08:54] <cfhowlett> !patience|SASDOE,
[08:55] <SASDOE> cfhowlett: I come from there, where I have followed instructions to the letter. Sorry for the impatience though!
[08:58] <intok> please tell me theres a way to get Synaptic back... Ubuntu software center is terrible
[08:58] <b0x> think its time to give up on ubuntu :( back on windows.. wireless network (and related sharing) works without issue & dropouts, nvidia gfx works correctly..
[08:58] <SASDOE> Hmm grepping b43 in lsmod returns a b43 driver and a bcma, do I need both? If not how come modprobe tells me bcma is in use?
[08:59] <cfhowlett> intok, run a terminal: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[08:59] <SASDOE> as well as mac80211 cg80211 and ssb. Do I need all of these? Or should I blacklist some?
[09:05] <EleanorEllis> Good morning. I was happily running Ubuntu 12.04 and I was prompted by Upgrade Manager to upgrade to 12.10. This went OK and then I was prompted to upgrade to 13.04. A number of packages didn't install, among them Kismet, which I understand is a network monitor which I thought I had uninstalled already, and grub-pc. I don't remember the others and I don't know how to find a log of what went wrong with the install. Now having rebooted, I
[09:06] <joobie> ubuntu boots up, purple screen, white ubuntu logo.. but just sits there..
[09:06] <joobie> any ideas how to get beyond this?
[09:06] <joobie> i can SSH to it even though it's stuck there
[09:07] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, 13.04 has already reached end of life - i.e. it's not supported
[09:07] <EleanorEllis> My only reason to upgrade at all was in the hope that wifi might be a bit more reliable. On 12.04 I found that it would frequently keep asking me to re-enter the wifi passphrase. Sorry 13.10 not 13.04
[09:08] <Ben64> 12.10 doesn't upgrade directly to 13.10
[09:09] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: Well, it just prompted me to upgrade directly to 13.10 from 12.10. I was surprised because I thought I would have to go through 13.04 first.
[09:09] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, *surprised me too*
[09:09] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: Sorry I meant I upgraded to 13.10 not 13.04
[09:10] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: It didn't give me the choice to upgrade to 13.04
[09:10] <Ben64> EleanorEllis: can you pastebin "lsb_release -a; cat /etc/issue; sudo apt-get update"
[09:13] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, everyone can connect on port 22 on that ip address, I am the only one who cannot.Someone else namped and saw the ssh port open, my nmap shows port 22 filtered and the connection times out
[09:13] <Wiz_KeeD> So either something is wrong on my box, or the sysadmin is evil and blocked my ip and is lieing to me, which I doubt
[09:14] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/HTp4BU8c
[09:14] <Wiz_KeeD> And I do not know how to diagnose this
[09:15] <Ben64> EleanorEllis: strange. so whats the problem?
[09:15] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, the volume control is stuck at 0
[09:15] <SASDOE> Have you tried from another ip? And with another wireless card or by changing your mac address? If problem persits definetly a sysadmin issue
[09:16] <SASDOE> EleanorEllis: That was to you!
[09:16] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: Bear in mind I am running from a live CD as I can't log in from my installation
[09:16] <SASDOE> Wiz_KeeD: I meant you
[09:16] <Wiz_KeeD> can anyone provide help with this?
[09:16] <Wiz_KeeD> ahh, sorry
[09:16] <Wiz_KeeD> SASDOE, http://pastie.org/8887282
[09:16] <Wiz_KeeD> SASDOE, other ip's (people work)
[09:17] <Ben64> EleanorEllis: your first message in this channel was cut off, don't see a problem anywhere. (except you just said you can't log in)
[09:17] <Wiz_KeeD> SASDOE, what can the mac have to do with it?
[09:17] <Ben64> Wiz_KeeD: seems like a firewall
[09:17] <EleanorEllis> SASDOE: I don't own another wireless card. My IP address is given by dhcp from the wifi router
[09:17] <Wiz_KeeD> Ben64, I KNOW RIGHT?!
[09:17] <marcus_> Hi! I'm having trouble getting my SAS-controllers working under 13.10 server, something seems to hang during startup. How should I proceed? -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7048825/
[09:17] <Ben64> so... check that..
[09:17] <Wiz_KeeD> the port is filetered, and other nmaps show it as open
[09:17] <Ben64> filtered = firewall
[09:18] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: Upgrade manager prompted me to upgrade my distribution from 12.04 to 12.10
[09:18] <Ben64> EleanorEllis: "Now having rebooted, I" is the last part from your first message
[09:18] <Wiz_KeeD> Ben64, I also tried connecting with a app from my phone using wireless and it didn't work
[09:18] <SASDOE> EleanorEllis: sudo apt-get install macchanger then read the man, change the mac and try again
[09:18] <Wiz_KeeD> Once I removed the wireless it started working
[09:18] <EleanorEllis> I have been resisting this for some time as from experience upgrades tend to be difficult and time consuming and I didn't want to reinstall all my packages.
[09:18] <Wiz_KeeD> Ben64, could it be my service provider doing this?
[09:19] <EleanorEllis> I only upgraded because wifi is unreliable and I hoped perhaps this might have been fixed on later versions.
[09:19] <Ben64> Wiz_KeeD: probably. in any circumstance it doesn't seem like an Ubuntu issue
[09:19] <ciss> hi, i noticed that "cd --" takes me to the current user's home directory (equivalent to "cd ~"). where can i find more documentation on that argument?
[09:19] <SASDOE> also to change IP you could request another ip thx to ifconfig
[09:19] <SASDOE> again read the man to know how
[09:20] <SASDOE> EleanorEllis: But i agree this isn't a ubuntu problem
[09:20] <EleanorEllis> The upgrade to to 12.10 went OK. Then I was prompted to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.10. After this upgrade, I can't login. I type my username and password and then it just sits there. So now I have booted from a liveCD
[09:21] <ciss> ah, nvm. it's equivalent to "cd" without any arguments
[09:21] <EleanorEllis> And I wonder if it is worthwhile trouble shooting this, especially as the next LTS is around the corner or just restoring my backup of 12.04 or even 12.10 and either putting up with the wifi issues or trying to fix them.
[09:22] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, LTS only means less frequent/intense headaches - but YMMV.   Consider your usage needs.
[09:24] <EleanorEllis> SASDOE: What happens with the wifi is sometimes it won't connect or drops the connection and repeatedly asks for the wifi passphrase. Obviously at this stage I can't request another IP as until I get wifi connection, I don't have an IP. Oddly enough this behaviour continues even after I connect with a cable. It also happens when I use my phone as a portable wifi hotspot, after I have turned off the wifi hotspot. It's an irritation rather
[09:25] <EleanorEllis> Especially as I can't remember them, except that the person kept telling me over and over again that LTS is NOT more stable
[09:25] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: What does YMMV mean?
[09:25] <cfhowlett> !ymmv
[09:26] <EleanorEllis> !wfm
[09:28] <airtonix> eh, living in a warzone works for me
[09:28] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: The person was telling me that everything that makes it into the repositories is stable, unless it's marked as such, so my reluctance to upgrade every six months in the belief that things would be more stable was misplaced.
[09:29] <EleanorEllis> So anyway, my original question, having upgraded first from 12.04 to12.10 and then from 12.10 to 13.10 and now I can't login. Is it worth trying to fix or should I just restore my backup of 12.04 or 12.10?
[09:30] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, I'm reluctant to engage in "religious" debate, but consider: the interim releases are now supported for 9 months.  NINE.  I upgrade every 2 years with on LTS.  If you absolutely need the latest, greatest shiny stuff, I suppose it's worth it to get every release.  If not ...
[09:30] <gordonjcp> EleanorEllis: "stable" means "does not change", not "does not crash" ;-)
[09:31] <cfhowlett> :)
[09:31] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, well said!
[09:31] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: I don't need the latest shiny stuff. That's why I tend to stick to LTS releases and put off upgrading until I can't avoid it. However, the person was suggesting it to sort out some other problems
[09:32] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, understood.  Can't advise as (lucky me) my wifi works just fine with my 2009 Dell 1545.
[09:32] <EleanorEllis> I would be happy to stick on whatever release I am on for ever unless there is some good reason to change  and just get secruity updates and bugfixes
[09:32] <makara> what's happening here? : http://postimg.org/image/7yns6gdnv/
[09:33] <makara> have I messed up my PGP keys maybe?
[09:33] <EleanorEllis> I was previously on 8.04 for a very long time. I only installed 12.04 when I bought a new machine.
[09:33] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, you do sound like an LTS type candidate.  xmas comes next month!!!
[09:34] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: It sounds like it is likely to take longer than it is worth to sort out why 13.10 wont log in then. Probably best to go back to 12.04
[09:34] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, and then jump to 14.04 in April?  Bet!
[09:35] <Guest52358> Hello
[09:35] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: I will prbably wait a lot longer than that until something is broken that can't be fixed! I would rather wait till the bugs have been ironed out
[09:35] <Guest52358> I need help with mscorefonts.
[09:35] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, best of luck.  My 12.04.4 still likes me ...
[09:36] <Guest52358> I install it but after in Libreoffice I cant see then+
[09:36] <Guest52358> them
[09:36] <Guest52358> Can you help me, please?
[09:36] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, how did you install the fonts?
[09:36] <Guest52358> I used some instalation options by internet but dont work
[09:36] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: I would still be on 8.04 if if supported my hardware!
[09:36] <Ben64> 8.04 isn't supported though
[09:36] <Guest52358> From the ubuntu center
[09:37] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, if you're still using "legacy" hardware, consider lubuntu or xubuntu
[09:37] <Guest52358> I am using Ubuntu 12.04
[09:37] <Guest52358> LTS
[09:38] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: For a long time I was prevented from moving from 8.04 because that was the last version to support my twin head graphics card. Now I have a relatively new machine, that's not a problem and it seemed sensible to try 12.04 on it.
[09:38] <EleanorEllis> So I am not runnning legacy hardware anymore
[09:38] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, :)
[09:38] <leeyaa> hello
[09:38] <leeyaa> how to find out what is overwriting my resolv.conf with an extra ip address
[09:38] <leeyaa> ive looked in interfaces file
[09:38] <leeyaa> there is no such ip
[09:39] <leeyaa> nvm i found it
[09:39] <leeyaa> it was in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/original
[09:39] <Guest52358> I ask again.
[09:40] <EleanorEllis> How do I copy the path from nautilus on Ubuntu 13.10? The view menu has gone.
[09:40] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, logout and login, then run libreoffice.  if that fails, reboot
[09:40] <Guest52358> I am using Ubuntu 12.04 and need to install the mscorefonts. I install it from ubuntu software center but when I open LibreOffice dont appear the fonts.
[09:41] <Guest52358> Thanks cfhowlett. I did, but dont work
[09:42] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, try Arial font
[09:42] <Guest52358> I used this in terminal: sudo fc-cache -f -v but dont work
[09:42] <marcus_> cfhowlett: you seem like a knowledable individual, you know anything that culd help with my problem?
[09:42] <marcus_> :)
[09:42] <Guest52358> I need arial, verdana and tahoma fonts
[09:43] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, do any of those appear in libreoffice???
[09:43] <cfhowlett> !ask|marcus_,
[09:43] <Guest52358> No
[09:43] <Guest52358> Only appears the Ubuntu fonts
[09:45] <Ben64> Guest52358: do they appear in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts
[09:45] <marcus_> that's the best stfu-message I've ever read ^^ I'll keep googleing and ask in the channel in a while. thanks :)
[09:45] <Guest52358> One moment
[09:46] <Ben64> marcus_: no.. it means if you want someone to answer your question, you do in fact need to ask it, also, please refrain from obscene acronyms
[09:46] <clement> hi
[09:46] <Guest44929> yo
[09:46] <cfhowlett> Guest5258, in a terminal:     ls /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts
[09:46] <Guest52358> No. The folder is empty
[09:47] <Ben64> Guest52358: then you didn't install the fonts properly
[09:47] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, either you installed the fonts to the wrong location or you didn't install
[09:47] <df3d2> with a chroot, what causes the command "grub-install /dev/sdx" to say grub-install no such command ?
[09:47] <Guest52358> but when I install, the terminal message tell me that they are install
[09:48] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, it's ok to reinstall.
[09:48] <Guest52358> How?
[09:48] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, the volume control is stuck at 0
[09:48] <Guest52358> I reinstall two or tree times ago. And dont appear
[09:48] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[09:49] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, doesn't matter how many times if you're doing it wrong each time ...
[09:49] <Guest52358> I used this order in terminal. Dont work
[09:49] <df3d2> with a chroot, what causes the command "grub-install /dev/sdx" to say grub-install no such command ?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, do it again, note the error messages
[09:49] <Guest52358> ok
[09:49] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, and if you did NOT agree to the msft licensing agreement?  no installation
[09:51] <Guest52358> The final message tell me: "ttf-corefonts-installer is instlled in his more recent version"
[09:52] <DeusDeceit> Hello guyz, I have 2 Graphics Cards on my laptop,  discrete and  embeded, AMD Radeon 8xxx m and Intel HD 4000. My question is, how can I see the GPU temperature? I installed lm-sensors, i did the sensors-detect thingy, but I don't get any indication for GPU temperature. Does anyone know how to do this?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, did you accept the terms and conditions?
[09:52] <geirha> Guest52358: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[09:52] <Guest52358> the first time that I install, Yes. The follow times dont ask me.
[09:53] <cfhowlett> Guest52358,  see geirha's post ^^^
[09:55] <Guest52358> Thanks cfhowlett. But for me is more easy reinstall ubuntu again and repeat the process.
[09:55] <Guest52358> Bye
[09:55] <cfhowlett> Guest52358, reinstalling the entire OS just to install fonts is questionable
[09:55] <cfhowlett> ... aaaaaaand he's gone.
[09:56] <EleanorEllis> Guest52358: I think reinstalling ubuntu just for fonts will take much longer than sorting it out here
[09:56] <cfhowlett> geirha, good suggestion.  my next thought would have been a purge/reinstall.
[09:56] <MetalWolf> Hi, I have an HP desktop which had windows 7 installed on it and I have installed ubuntu onto it.  I was forced to manually partition as it would not allow me to install it with automatic resizing.  I discovered that the system will boot into ubuntu using UEFI and windows 7 if i tell it to boot from the hard drive.  I have looked into using boot-repair.  This now allows me to see a grub menu from the hard drive boot but the only options are ubuntu.  The past
[09:58] <EleanorEllis> I do wish the standard response from Windows support people wasn't so often "First reboot and if that doesn't work, reinstall windows". So irritating and it means when new people come here they are reluctant to actually work through the problem if there isn't a magic bullet.
[09:59] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, *most* people are far from ready to be responsible system admins (I say from from Beijing where windows XP is STILL the default OS)
[10:03] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: Well, starting with linux is definitely a learning curve. But hopefully people learn, not just the tech stuff but how to get help effectively. It took me a long time to know how to ask a question and I still get it wrong. And I still get frustrated with Ubuntu. But when I get frustrated I remind myself that at least with free software there IS help and people willing to talk me through my problems whereas with windows there ge
[10:03] <EleanorEllis> Sorry if this is off topic
[10:04] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: Anyway, I have now restored my backup of 12.04. Fingers crossed that it restores and boots properly. Signing off for now
[10:04] <JB> Hi guys, i have easy question.
[10:04] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, no worries.  as far as learning curve, it's incremental.  the more problems you solve, the more you'll learn.  stay in this channel and observe.  sooner or later, someone will ask a question YOU can solve.
[10:04] <cfhowlett> JB, ask
[10:04] <JB> is it possible to conntact people from this thread from forum? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-783727.html
[10:04] <g0mib0y>   love to use Linux at work but there are unfortunanltly still applications where there are no Linux equals like Cisco SoftPhone and desktop agent. Anyone know of any Linux replacemenst for these? Tried to run in wine but didn't work
[10:05] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys, sysadmin found in firewall: iprope_in_check() check failed, drop what could that mean?
[10:05] <g105b> Here comes the most newbie question of the day: How do I turn num lock on?
[10:05] <JB> (without register?)
[10:06] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: Oh, I have been able to help people now and again. Just most of the time, if I'm working on something else I don't have the attention to be able to watch the channel and what I am working on at the same time.
[10:06] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, :)  wide screen, multi-tasking.  I run xchat in the right 1/4 of my screen.
[10:07] <EleanorEllis> g0mib0y: I know it's a dirty solution but you could try running it in a virtual machine running windows. I know, you may very well not want to do this, and of course it might not even work. Hopefully someone else will know of an alternative. Have you tried googling for a linux replacement?
[10:09] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: I have one very wide screen (2560 x 1440) and a second at 1280 x 1024. Still, when I am focussed on one thing, I don't see what is going on in the channel. And when I am coding, I find that even what I have is not enough screen real estate for the multiple windows I have open.
[10:09] <EleanorEllis> g105b: Press the numlock key
[10:10] <g0mib0y> EleanorEllis: yeah there is non, only other Linux ipphone replacements. Will try this though, could be worth it. hopefully sound will work. Waiting for us to change ipphone provider so we might not be stuck with this solution. And after we go over to Google mail and hangouts Lync wont be an issue either
[10:10] <EleanorEllis> Back in a few minutes after rebooting, hopefully everything works OK. Wish me luch :)
[10:10] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, good *luch*
[10:10] <g105b> EleanorEllis: where ? http://i.imgur.com/K2C9q26.jpg
[10:10] <EleanorEllis> g0mib0y: Do you have specific hardware you need to work with? Like Cisco desktop phones?
[10:11] <cfhowlett> g105b, read your manual.  I don't see the num lock key, so it might not be on your model.
[10:12] <g0mib0y> EleanorEllis: No we use softphone from Cisco. That is the biggest problem. The desktop agent has a web replacemnet that I can use but the Softphone program only runs in Windows
[10:12] <cfhowlett> g0mib0y, google hangouts, skype, hell, even bbm is multiple platform capable ...
[10:13] <EleanorEllis> g105b: It might be some combination of keys perhaps. I can't read the legends on the keys. Do you have a square on photo or can you take one?
[10:13] <g105b> EleanorEllis: I'll take one
[10:13] <EleanorEllis> g105b: But reading the manual is probably key. You might need to download it if you can't find it or contact logitech support.
[10:14] <EleanorEllis> g0mib0y: Who do you need the softphone to communicate with, just internally within your company or with the rest of the world?
[10:14] <EleanorEllis> g0mib0y: And if there is a web replacement then could you use that?
[10:15] <SHOTbyGUN> so I just installed ubuntu, but I am confused about NVidia propietary drivers, I suppose I should not use nouveau for gaming? and the propietary drivers list does not include the latest 331 for some reason? and also what is the difference with the -update addition to the driver?
[10:15] <EleanorEllis> g105b: I will be back in a few minutes. I need to reboot
[10:15] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: You can wish me good *lunch* if you prefer :P
[10:18] <rwsq1> SHOTbyGUN, you can try nouveau, apparently there are improvements to it all the time. It probably depends on what kind of gaming you do.
[10:19] <SHOTbyGUN> rwsql ok, I'll try it out :o
[10:19] <olalonde> hi all. I just built a server machine for home but i dont have any monitor.. just a macbook air laptop. would it be possible to set up the server inside a virtual machine and write the virtual machine image to a USB stick and boot from there?
[10:20] <JNixx> Can't you connect the machine to a TV?
[10:20] <olalonde> no :(
[10:20] <olalonde> no tv haha
[10:20] <olalonde> i do have a monitor actually but it uses displayport and i dont have a VDI/vga adapter
[10:21] <olalonde> i think i could set up a live linux on a USB stick that automatically launches sshd ?
[10:21] <JNixx> That should work. I've never done it but it sounds possible in theory
[10:21] <rockyrock> is there a shortcuts that delete the current line in terminal?
[10:21] <rwsq1> SHOTbyGUN, if nouveau works for you it'll make your life easier than if you have to use the proprietary nvidia drivers
[10:22] <rockyrock> and also to move back and forwth in a long written line on terminal
[10:23] <SHOTbyGUN> rockyrock, to fast move in written line, use CTRL + arrow left and right, to move from word to word, or use HOME or END buttons to get to end of line
[10:23] <SASDOE> hey all still got wireless issues. I noticed that although I blacklisted bcma it still loads along with b43, and I suspect this could be the reason why although my card is marked as up I can scan a single network
[10:23] <SASDOE> so why is it that although I blacklisted a module it still loads after a reboot
[10:24] <rockyrock> SHOTbyGUN: CTRL+arrorw doesn't works
[10:24] <SASDOE> and does anyone know how I can get this b43 to work??
[10:24] <SHOTbyGUN> rockyrock, it always works for me :o
[10:25] <marcus_> Hi! I'm having trouble getting my SAS-controllers working under 13.10 server, something seems to hang during startup. How should I proceed? -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7048825/
[10:27] <SASDOE> actually I've also blacklisted ssb mac80211 and a couple others and they all key loading
[10:27] <SASDOE> s/key/keep/
[10:27] <SASDOE> any ideas why?
[10:27] <rockyrock> i"m reading bash manual: "forward-word (M-f)" what does M stand for?
[10:28] <ikonia> rockyrock: try #bash
[10:28] <rockyrock> "end-of-line (C-e)" C is for control
[10:28] <SASDOE> rockyrock: alt
[10:28] <SASDOE> usually
[10:28] <rockyrock> sorry I left
[10:28] <rockyrock> I saw someone gave an answer
[10:28] <SASDOE> rockyrock: alt
[10:28] <rockyrock> SASDOE: why M for alt?
[10:29] <SASDOE> its m for meta
[10:29] <SASDOE> Because it can also be (at least in emacs) escape but not held down
[10:31] <hdon> hi all :) i'm using Ubuntu 12.04. in the past i've tried other desktop environments on this system (like fluxbox! oh man.. blast from the past!) and in order to get my GTK+ applications to appear "normal" I was told to run gnome-settings-daemon, and that fixed the issue. now, however, that makes no different. even in the Unity desktop which seems to run gnome-settings-daemon (and gnome-keyring-daemon, nauilus etc.) automatically, my GTK+ a
[10:31] <hdon> pplications are still "ugly." can anyone advise? maybe tell me where to find the settings that change the appearance of GTK+ applications?
[10:31] <ismaelbalzan> hello everybody
[10:32] <ismaelbalzan> someone can help me?
[10:32] <cfhowlett> !ask| ismaelbalzan
[10:32] <hdon> it's worth noting that i have a second symptom: my keyboard's volume control keys no longer adjust my volume!
[10:33] <hdon> could this be a dbus problem?
[10:34] <hdon> how normally do XF86AudioRaiseVolume keys work to change my volume anyhow? what program/configuration is responsible?
[10:35] <JB> Hi, is it possible to conntact people from this forum without register there?  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-783727.html
[10:35] <ikonia> JB: no
[10:35] <JB> :(
[10:35] <hdon> hmm.. i checked in gnome-control-center and my volume keys appear to be set correctly
[10:36] <SASDOE> Does anyone know a channel where I might find help for my wireless issues?
[10:36] <ikonia> SASDOE: if its in relation to ubuntu here
[10:38] <SASDOE> ikonia: Ok, I can't scan for networks, have driver b43, no related errors in dmesg, shows it loading fine as does lsmod, iwconfig shows a wlan0 and nm-tool shows proper driver in use but no wireless access points
[10:38] <ikonia> SASDOE: just ask the channel and wait for a response
[10:38] <SASDOE> Don't really know what to do anymore
[10:38] <JB> SASDOE: can you run iwlist wlan0 scanning
[10:39] <SASDOE> wlan0 No scan results
[10:39] <biledemon> is there a way from the command line to easily check when a package was last updated?
[10:40] <JB> and is it really wlan0?
[10:40] <bgboo> hi
[10:41] <SASDOE> yes ifconfig and nm-tool's mac address correspond
[10:41] <JB> and if you write ifconfig can you see wlan0?
[10:41] <hdon> biledemon, i think the best way would be this: ls -l `dpkg -L PACKAGENAME`
[10:41] <SASDOE> JB: Yes
[10:42] <bgboo> I got a problem with my pc, I insalled ubuntu, formated win. When I restart the PC and start it up, nothing happend.
[10:42] <hdon> biledemon, then you would see the mtimes on the files and if those are the time it was installed, that should tell you
[10:42] <JB> can you paste iwconfig here (or somewhere?)
[10:42] <cfhowlett> bgboo, you installed ubuntu and THEN formatted your HDD for windows?  of COURSE nothing happens - you wiped out your OS!
[10:43] <hdon> biledemon, use the back-tick (`) character below the tilde (~) character btw (this executes the command and then substitutes the output of that command as part of a new command string
[10:43] <bgboo> no, it was win7 on the computer, then I installed ubuntu
[10:43] <SASDOE> JB: comming up need to plug it in first am not on the same pc
[10:43] <cfhowlett> !details|bgboo,
[10:45] <bgboo> newest ubuntu, the screen is just black with info about my pc, wich components and such. and I ofc expect it to boot up
[10:45] <cfhowlett> bgboo, picture ...
[10:45] <bgboo> Ive tryed install it from usb & cd
[10:46] <JB> SASDOE: plug it in :))
[10:46] <biledemon> hdon: that commans gives me a long list of all sorts of files
[10:46] <hdon> biledemon, all of those files are part of the package
[10:46] <unixbeardxd> bgbo: bgboo, it sounds like you are not even hitting the boot stage.  Does your PC see the drives in the BIOS, and have you set it to boot from CD/USB
[10:46] <hdon> biledemon, the dates on those files might tell you when they were installed
[10:46] <g0mib0y> EleanorEllis: I use Softphone for customer contact. I work in a IT helpdesk
[10:47] <hdon> biledemon, or it might just tell you when the files were last modified by the package maintainer... i am unsure which!
[10:47] <hdon> ohh
[10:47] <hdon> biledemon, sorry
[10:47] <hdon> biledemon, try this instead: ls -ld `dpkg -L PACKAGENAME`
[10:47] <hdon> include the "d" in the ls command
[10:47] <hdon> sorry, my first suggestino will list too many files!
[10:47] <EleanorEllis> cfhowlett: Well, I'm back in to 12.04. Of course, I forgot to repair grub before rebooting but luckily I had a boot repair disc handy
[10:48] <bgboo> ive set it from boot from cd/usb ofc, and ive installed ubuntu etc. Then ubuntu ask me to restart, but OS dosent boot, and Ive choosen boot from HDD ( when ive done installing )
[10:48] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis, problem solved?
[10:48] <EleanorEllis> Yes
[10:48] <cfhowlett> :)
[10:48] <hdon> biledemon, but i just tried the command myself, and it looks like it gives the package maintainer's mtime, not the installation time. how to see the creation time...
[10:48] <EleanorEllis> !bootrepairdisc
[10:48] <bgboo> The os dosent install proberly
[10:48] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|bgboo,
[10:49] <SASDOE__> JB: sorry PC crashed : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7049289/
[10:50] <EleanorEllis> g0mib0y: Is the issue that you want to shift all your customers onto Ubuntu but there is no softphone alternative or you want to shift yourself onto it and leave the customers on windows?
[10:50] <JB> SASDOE: crashed? :))
[10:50] <biledemon> hdon: that gives me only results from the package I want, so that's good. Still not sure which line to look at though
[10:50] <JB> SASDOE: and can you paste ifconfig
[10:50] <SASDOE> Mhh anoying. If I do three things in a row I'll get thrown back to gdm's login page..
[10:51] <biledemon> hdon: yeah..
[10:51] <JB> SASDOE: : and can you actually tell me more about your config?
[10:51] <SASDOE__> JB: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7049315/
[10:51] <hdon> biledemon, the thing is, if apt keeps a record of when installs/removes/updates occur, i've never heard of it
[10:52] <SASDOE> JB: it's a macbook7.1 with ubuntu gnome 13.10 installed. Didn't bother formatting usb install stick to img but I doubt that has amything to do with anything
[10:53] <bgboo> thanks a lot cfhowlett Ill try that ( btw i am using a geforce 7900 )
[10:53] <hdon> bbiab
[10:53] <biledemon> hdon: maybe you're right. Well I can always just google the package name and find out that way. Thanks anyway
[10:53] <bgboo> and x2 HDD ( SATA1+SATA2 ), ive earlier had I problem with the PC, it wouldt boot, then I swapped sata ports, and then it worked
[10:56] <JB> SASDOE: OK, and the ifconfig?
[10:56] <SASDOE__> JB: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7049315/
[10:56] <JB> SASDOE__: Try ifconfig wlan0 down
[10:57] <SASDOE> and then up? allready did
[10:57] <JB> SASDOE__: ifconfig wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:57] <JB> SASDOE__: ifconfig wlan0 up
[10:57] <onlty> sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[10:57] <JB> SASDOE__: iwlist wlan0 scanning
[10:57] <onlty> Disabled wlan0
[10:57] <onlty> I have automatic WIFI setup script
[10:58] <SASDOE> JB: Done
[10:58] <JB> SASDOE: And???
[10:58] <SASDOE> still no scan
[10:58] <JB> SASDOE: No rf-kill switch?
[10:59] <SASDOE> nor soft nor hard
[10:59] <JB> SASDOE:  and can you tell me again which wifi card is it?
[10:59] <JB> SASDOE: macbook :)
[11:00] <SASDOE> it's a bcm 4322
[11:01] <JB> SASDOE: try sudo lshw and find network
[11:02] <davividal> I can't login on 13.10 with my intel i915. I must chmod a-x /usr/bin/compiz to be able to login. What's happening?
[11:02] <JB> SASDOE: you probably does not have firmware installed.
[11:02] <JB> SASDOE: repair: don't have
[11:03] <hdon> hi all :) how can i ask apt which files which were installed by apt differ from what is in the package?
[11:03] <hdon> i realize i'll get a lot of configuration files and whatnot...
[11:04] <SASDOE> JB: the command is "lshw" right ? If so I just listed some stuff ending with a network listing and I still can't scan
[11:04] <SASDOE> I installed firware non free if that helps
[11:05] <SASDOE> And lshw shows a firmware under wlan0
[11:05] <JB> SASDOE: hm, so i can't help you, but internet is full of this so good luck :)
[11:06] <SASDOE> JB: Thanks any way! Any ideas what to look for?
[11:08] <Munster> SASDOE, sudo lshw -C network
[11:10] <SASDOE> Crashed again... I might have to reinstall anyway but that wont change anything will it? It's a fesh install.
[11:11] <SASDOE> I mean I can't use it as is, no wifi and crashes as soon as i open firefox and a terminal at the same time, or anything comprable in load
[11:12] <Munster> SASDOE, update, upgrade and dist-upgrade then see what happens
[11:13] <SASDOE> Ok thanks
[11:13] <Munster> you'll need an  internet connection tho, like ethernet
[11:13] <SASDOE> I have
[11:14] <Munster> ok SASDOE, always update etc after a clean instll
[11:14] <SASDOE> I though it had as I had checked the box, but obviously wasn't enough
[11:15] <SASDOE> Gui always fails, I should know by now
[11:16] <Munster> yes use the terminal
[11:18] <SASDOE__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7049412/
[11:18] <SASDOE> Munster: output from lshw -C network
[11:19] <grache28> HI guys
[11:19] <grache28> I'm trying to install ubuntu server on via cd on an 2008 sun (x86)
[11:20] <grache28> at first I'm able to use the keyboard, but immediately afterwards no
[11:20] <unixbeardxd> grache28: what about when you SSH in?
[11:21] <grache28> unixbeardxd: well i'm trying to start the install from a cd, isn't that too early to ssh in?
[11:22] <Munster> SASDOE, sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[11:22] <grache28> it allows me to select a language, then select some options (like install, test memory, etc) when I chose install it takes me to a menu where I need to select language again and then it doesnt accept keyboard input
[11:23] <SASDOE> Munster: I had to unistall those to try and fix it in the first place.. I had the same problem with those.
[11:23] <unixbeardxd> grache28: possibly.  Is the system just unresponsive to the keyboard, or to mouse input as well?
[11:23] <grache28> it's not a gui menu
[11:24] <SASDOE> I though ubuntu was cd sized anymore
[11:25] <SASDOE> grache28: what version are you installing?
[11:25] <lucido> hi, mailto: gmail is not working on firefox in ubuntu
[11:25] <unixbeardxd> grache28, oh, I assumed Ubuntu Server used the same install methods as Desktop.  My bad.
[11:25] <Kruppt> sasdoe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604868&page=24      http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748245&page=5
[11:25] <lucido> hi, mailto: gmail is not working on firefox in ubuntu
[11:25] <lucido> sorry
[11:25] <unixbeardxd> grachie28: I love Ubuntu on the Desktop but not as a server, I always go with Debian netinstall for a server.
[11:26] <Munster> SASDOE, firmware-b43-installer
[11:26] <grache28> unixbeardxd: awesome
[11:27] <SASDOE> Munster: allready have that..
[11:27] <SASDOE> grache28: I second unixbeardxd on that
[11:27] <SASDOE> Kruppt: will give those a try thanks
[11:28] <unixbeardxd> grache28: what it sounds like to me is your Sun box is hard locking during the install process.  If you want to use Ubuntu Server, it may be worthwhile pulling the drives and installing using a known good system, then drop the drives back into the Sun server.
[11:28] <Munster> ok SASDOE try this tutorial, http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[11:30] <Munster> SASDOE, the url I posted is essentially the same as Kruppt 's
[11:30] <grache28> unixbeardxd: hadn't considered that
[11:31] <jqwerty> Hi there I'm trying to get a Brother HL-1110 printer to work , Does Saucy user lpr or cups drivers?
[11:32] <Wiz_KeeD> what does it mean when I can login to ssh but cannot scp?
[11:32] <unixbeardxd> grache28: it's not pretty but if the installer is causing the hardlock, that will get around it.  If you have problems with the hardware, they'll show up on the first boot after the drive transfer.
[11:33] <OerHeks> Wiz_KeeD, depends on the error you get
[11:33] <Munster> Wiz_KeeD, what are you trying to scp ?
[11:33] <grache28> all but verified that its not a hard lock
[11:33] <bazhang> http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#HL-1110 jqwerty
[11:34] <Wiz_KeeD> Munster, a sql dump that I've downloaded hundrets of times, and I get connection timeout OerHeks
[11:34] <tricolor> hi =)
[11:34] <grache28> coz i can boot into the check disk section where it checks the install disk & no kb support, but it chugs along checking the disk
[11:34] <gynter> Hello, who manages the http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ and how to get a torrent authorized there?
[11:35] <grache28> the server gui install is probably bigger than cd size, no?
[11:35] <neubie> Hi, anyone knows of jockey software package is needed when you never use 'check new drivers feature' in ubuntu?
[11:36] <jqwerty> bazhang: I've installed the cupswrapper driver their guide says to go to localhost:631 which is 404 , not sure how to continue
[11:36] <neubie> I mean is it ok to remove kockey package?
[11:36] <neubie> jockey
[11:36] <unixbeardxd> grache28: I think it's smaller than a 700MB CD.
[11:37] <grache28> it's all the text based that locks up the kb
[11:37] <OerHeks> gynter, that site is for ubuntu torrents only, this team handles torrents https://launchpad.net/~motu-torrent/+members
[11:37] <unixbeardxd> gynter: what ISO do you want that is not already there?
[11:37] <jqwerty> bazhang: not sure what you did but work now :)
[11:37] <Munster> !jockey | neubie
[11:37] <gynter> unixbeardxd: Estobuntu
[11:37] <Munster> !info jockey | neubie
[11:38] <Munster> hmm
[11:38] <neubie> ok, so i remove it
[11:38] <tricolor> mint or ubuntu?
[11:38] <Munster> neubie, just search for additional drivers
[11:38] <unixbeardxd> gynter, so not one of the mainline derivatives then.
[11:38] <neubie> can't make it dissapear from autostartt menu
[11:38] <OerHeks> gynter, estobuntu is no official ubuntu
[11:39] <DomeMaster> hello
[11:39] <neubie> thanks
[11:39] <bazhang> !info jockey-gtk
[11:40] <gynter> OerHeks: so it only hosts official?
[11:41] <gynter> eg ones controlled by Canonical Ltd.?
[11:42] <OerHeks> gynter, yes, no derivatives
[11:44] <bngle> hi... I installed latest hew enablement stack (linux-generic-lts-saucy) on my Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS. Everything works fine. What packages commands should I run to get rid of the older linux-generic stuff (I have several 3.2.x kernels installed)
[11:45] <gynter> OerHeks: k, thanks
[11:45] <OerHeks> bngle, remove all kernels from softwarecenter/synaptic, except the current and the one before that.
[11:46] <bngle> apt-get purge linux-headers-3.2.* linux-image-3.2.* linux-generic linux-generic-headers?
[11:46] <bngle> OerHeks: this is server, so no synaptic here
[11:46] <OerHeks> bngle, oke, here is an example for commandline-removal >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[11:47] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get remove --purge $(dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d')
[11:48] <bolovanos> hi there - trying  to install ubuntu to an old hw (pentium duo..) and having issue with "blinking cursor". Is anybody here with knowledge to this topic? (got more information, but i do not wana spam it here...)
[11:49] <cfhowlett> bolovanos, old hardware? lubuntu or xubuntu
[11:49] <bngle> OerHeks: thanks!
[11:50] <bolovanos> cfhowlett: hw: notebook MSI - ms-163n, tryed both systems in varyous versions - same result
[11:50] <OerHeks> bngle, i just removed 6 kernels too :-D
[11:50] <grache28> unixbeardxd: tried installing on another machine
[11:51] <grache28> kb not recognized their either.....
[11:52] <bolovanos> cfhowlett: sry tryed ubuntu and xubuntu - i thought that "lubuntu" is mystake - did not know that there is this version :)
[11:52] <cfhowlett> bolovanos, lubuntu is optimized for older/lower specification hardware
[11:55] <bolovanos> cfhowlett: ok - I can try that later - downloading takes 1h+ of time. But I think that I have problem with ACPI, because only way to run "try ubuntu" is with option "acpi=off"
[11:55] <bolovanos> cfhowlett: do you think that lubuntu solves that?
[11:55] <adsc> maybe a bios update would also help
[11:55] <cfhowlett> bolovanos, ^^^ this!
[11:55] <unixbeardxd> grache28:Ok, that is weird.  Can you see what happens when you try another distro like Debian netinstall?
[11:56] <bolovanos> adsc: found someone with same problem https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=129872.0 - hi did bios update but it did not help.
[11:56] <adsc> that's unfortunate
[11:56] <wizonesolutions> I still see people complaining a lot about Unity. I don't recall it being the end of the world last time I used it...has it gotten worse?
[11:57] <OerHeks> bolovanos, did you try " acpi=vendor ΅ ??
[11:57] <wizonesolutions> I see people recommend Mint...as a web developer, not sure which to pick. I like keyboard shortcuts, and IIRC Unity was pretty good with them.
[11:57] <bolovanos> OerHeks: probably not - how - where?
[11:57] <OerHeks> wizonesolutions, mint is slower than ubuntu, and mint is not supported here
[11:57] <cfhowlett> wizonesolutions, take a look at the ubuntu Sputnik from Dell - meant for developers
[11:58] <cfhowlett> wizonesolutions, not supported here however ...
[11:58] <OerHeks> bolovanos, same place as you put acpi=off
[11:59] <cfhowlett> wizonesolutions, http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/w/wiki/3687.software-dell-xps-13-laptop-developer-edition.aspx
[11:59] <adsc> bolovanos: btw, the link you posted is a pretty old thread, so things might have changed
[11:59] <adsc> bolovanos: might still be worth it to update the bios, there are often fixes for power management etc.
[12:00] <cfhowlett> wizonesolutions, or this   http://odm.ubuntu.com/uds-q/dellxps/
[12:00] <bolovanos> OerHeks: right now I have 11.10 ubuntu i386 - and there is no such optiom - usb boot does not show F6 optiom..., maebye it is part of newer version - correct me if not - save my time trying it :)
[12:01] <cfhowlett> bolovanos, as 11.10 is way past end of life: yes a supported version might be nice
[12:01] <bolovanos> adsc: yes it is old thred and only one i foud - problem is a cannot find proper bios for it - product is discontinued :/
[12:02] <wizonesolutions> OerHeks: yeah I know, but I figured people know it exists and might have opinions. interesting to hear that it's slower. that's good information, thanks.
[12:02] <adsc> bolovanos: wow, that sucks...maybe buy a business laptop next time, they usually have longer support lifetimes
[12:02] <bolovanos> cfhowlett: thougt so ... btw i have installed this version on usb stick and then the same problem appeared - gues acpi again
[12:02] <cfhowlett> bolovanos, sounds like ...
[12:03] <bolovanos> adsc: one thing a hate about this is fact that we buy hw that is capable working for longer period of time and we have to get rid of it because of SW and support - THAT is very bad behaviour for environment
[12:03] <wizonesolutions> cfhowlett: ah, I already have a system to install it on. It seems like I can just go vanilla and then if I don't like something swap it out. I'm going to be using containers and Vagrant for my actual web dev anyway if it comes to that...and those have wide support from what I understand.
[12:04] <adsc> bolovanos: that's true. A friend of mine just called yesterday because his printer no longer works in Windows 8. HP simply decided to not write drivers for this "old product"
[12:05] <cfhowlett> wizonesolutions, sounds like a plan.  I installed vanilla then added sputnik packages - bypassed the custom dell stuff ...
[12:07] <MetalWolf> Hi, I have an HP desktop which had windows 7 installed on it and I have installed ubuntu onto it.  I was forced to manually partition as it would not allow me to install it with automatic resizing.  I discovered that the system will boot into ubuntu using UEFI and windows 7 if i tell it to boot from the hard drive.  I have looked into using boot-repair.  This now allows me to see a grub menu from the hard drive boot but the only options are ubuntu.  The past
[12:13] <Wiz_KeeD> Is there anyway to check if the ubuntu box is rejecting connections in a log or something?
[12:13] <Wiz_KeeD> Or wether the higher firewall is
[12:14] <diecastarts> Morning all I have been havinh alot of trouble with bumblebee/optirun from working I tried to purge and install again and again. rebooted everytime.  webpages are not helping me here is the error trying to run optirun http://pastebin.com/wyuZQWZU   I also added an error i get when i try to run "bumblebeed"
[12:15] <fidel_> Wiz_KeeD: in case you have iptables rules set ... try: "sudo iptables -L"  to get a list of your rules
[12:15] <fidel_> might be a first step
[12:15] <Wiz_KeeD> fidel_, thanks for answering, that's what I did first
[12:16] <Wiz_KeeD> fidel_, I also disabled the firewall
[12:16] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/8889540
[12:18] <fidel_> Wiz_KeeD: how about adding a LOG --log-level XY to the rules you consider being critical?
[12:18] <xsaidx> heyy guys
[12:18] <xsaidx>  i ve an azerty keyboard and thats cool for writin i cant dind out how to type some symbols like star
[12:18] <xsaidx>  i ve tried many combo  but still the same
[12:18] <Wiz_KeeD> fidel_, idk how to do that
[12:18] <xsaidx> im on lubuntu
[12:18] <odla> hi, the filenames for my qt apps are in Icelandic while everything else is in English. How can i make my qt apps (QGIS in this case) have the filenames in English?
[12:19] <fidel_> Wiz_KeeD: well in case you disabled your firewall already-  there is no need to - but that would be the way to debung single rules --- let them log to whatever file you want
[12:19] <fidel_> *debugging*
[12:19] <utug12> liar
[12:19] <fidel_> *debug*
[12:19] <Wiz_KeeD> I see, now what is the next step?
[12:20] <odla> oops and i mean menu names and menu entries
[12:20] <utug12> linux mint is not slower
[12:20] <fidel_> Wiz_KeeD: in case you have disabled your firewall and still have connection problems?
[12:20] <cfhowlett> utug12, mint is not supported on this channel.
[12:21] <cnimo> hello everyone, I cannot connect to 2 wireless networks. one is an open mesh network, and the other's password is correctly entered.
[12:21] <Wiz_KeeD> fidel_, intermitently
[12:21] <cnimo> this happened lately at one other place, where I also had to enter password over browser, but the page didnt ever show up
[12:21] <utug12> just dont bashing linux mint ok!!!!
[12:22] <Wiz_KeeD> wiz@ubuntu:/$ sudo ufw disable Firewall stopped and disabled on system startup and some bzr+ssh commands are still hanging
[12:22] <cnimo> is it possibly a problem with the settings?
[12:22] <odla> anyone why the localization might be off for qt apps but not my gtk ones?
[12:22] <utug12> just be freindly to other distribution ok
[12:23] <bonafide> Hi guys, I run Ubuntu 12.04. I just read that Canonical upgraded to 12.04.4. How do I uprgrade?
[12:24] <metaphysician> How do I tell apt to consider updates coming from a particular repository to be *security* updates?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> bonafide, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:24] <tarzaneck> hi, I've got a problem with Zorin, ubuntu based obviously - the network is connected, the hostnames are being resolved, but ping doesn't ping, webpages don't open, just like something is blocking it?
[12:24] <bonafide> cfhowlett: how dangerous is that?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> tarzaneck, zorin is not supported here.   please use zorin's support
[12:24] <cfhowlett> bonafide, it will upgrade 12.04 to 12.04.4
[12:24] <bonafide> ok.
[12:24] <diecastarts> Morning all I have been havinh alot of trouble with bumblebee/optirun from working I tried to purge and install again and again. rebooted everytime.  webpages are not helping me here is the error trying to run optirun http://pastebin.com/wyuZQWZU   I also added an error i get when i try to run "bumblebeed"
[12:24] <Wiz_KeeD> fidel_, http://pastie.org/8889552 after firewall was turned off
[12:25] <tarzaneck> I just thought that since the whole network framework is the same you could help me, but whatever
[12:25] <bonafide> cfhowlett: should i read anything beforehand to estimate risks? if so, what?
[12:25] <cnimo> hello everyone, I cannot connect to 2 wireless networks. one is an open mesh network, and the other's password is correctly entered.this happened lately at one other place, where I also had to enter password over browser, but the page didnt ever show up. is it possibly a problem with the settings?
[12:25] <cfhowlett> bonafide, point releases don't *usually* break anything but you probably will get a kernel upgrade.  if need be, reboot and login to an older ubuntu version.
[12:26] <bonafide> okay, lets just try it. thank you, cfhowlett!
[12:26] <cfhowlett> bonafide, best of luck.
[12:26] <fidel_> Wiz_KeeD: no idea sorry
[12:27] <kostkon> bonafide, what's the output of:  lsb_release -a
[12:27] <SASDOE> Hasn't happenned to me but what should one do if the pc wont boot after a dist update?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> SASDOE, generally, reboot and drop back to an older (previously working) kernel
[12:28] <SASDOE> in the grub?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> SASDOE, yes, it's a grub menu option
[12:28] <SASDOE> So I should keep track of my kernel version
[12:29] <cfhowlett> SASDOE, well, be aware of it ...
[12:29] <diecastarts> Morning all I have been havinh alot of trouble with bumblebee/optirun from working I tried to purge and install again and again. rebooted everytime.  webpages are not helping me here is the error trying to run optirun http://pastebin.com/wyuZQWZU   running Lubuntu 13.10 64bit
[12:29] <bonafide> "DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[12:29] <bonafide> DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04
[12:29] <bonafide> DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise
[12:29] <bonafide> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS"
[12:29] <bonafide> NAME="Ubuntu"
[12:29] <bonafide> VERSION="12.04.4 LTS, Precise Pangolin"
[12:29] <bonafide> ID=ubuntu
[12:29] <bonafide> ID_LIKE=debian
[12:29] <bonafide> PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu precise (12.04.4 LTS)"
[12:29] <bonafide> VERSION_ID="12.04"
[12:29] <bonafide> Thank you all!
[12:29] <SASDOE> cfhowlett: cool thanks
[12:29] <cfhowlett> SASDOE, best of luck
[12:30] <SASDOE> cfhowlett: hasn't happend yet but just want to know when it does!
[12:30] <cfhowlett> bonafide, seems you're already at 12.04.4
[12:30] <cfhowlett> SASDOE, :)
[12:30] <SASDOE> for when it does
[12:30] <bonafide> jep :>
[12:30] <diecastarts> Morning all I have been havinh alot of trouble with bumblebee/optirun from working I tried to purge and install again and again. rebooted everytime.  webpages are not helping me here is the error trying to run optirun http://pastebin.com/wyuZQWZU   running Lubuntu 13.10 64bit
[12:30] <diecastarts> oops sorry
[12:33] <spillere> I have this command, for f in *.flac; do ffmpeg -i "$f" -ab 320k "${f%.flac}.mp3" && rm "$f"; done, which transforms * Flacs to Mp3, but I have many many folders. how can i do, in a simple way, appy that code to all subdirectories??
[12:34] <geirha> spillere: find . -type d -execdir bash -c 'for f in ./*.flac; do [[ -f $f ]] || continue; ffmpeg -i "$f" -ab 320k "${f%.flac}.mp3" && rm "$f"; done' _ {} \;
[12:34] <metaphysician> How does apt know which updates are security updates?  Is security.ubuntu.com hardcoded as the only originator of security updates?
[12:34] <Jeet> hii
[12:35] <Guest57347> hiiiiiiiiiiii
[12:36] <metaphysician> sorry was disconnected, say again
[12:38] <metaphysician> Is there a difference between a security-critical update package and a normal update package?
[12:39] <metaphysician> insofar as apt is concerned
[12:40] <Munster> metaphysician,  security packages are cony=tained/soureced from their own repos
[12:40] <diecastarts> anyone know about bumblebee I really don;t want to have to Backup and reinstall EVERYTHING just because it daemon will not seem to start
[12:40] <Munster> err contained/sourced
[12:41] <Bittu> hiii
[12:42] <metaphysician> Munster: can I mark updates coming from a custom repository as security-critical? e.g. official google-chrome repository
[12:42] <Bittu> someone ping mi..???
[12:42] <cfhowlett> Bittu, we see you
[12:43] <Bittu> ok thnx..
[12:45] <ljsoftnet> can somebody help me with tvtime, the volume control is stuck at 0
[12:45] <Munster> BBL
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=874616
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> http://askubuntu.com/questions/33849/cannot-control-volume-in-tvtime
[12:46] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip w8
[12:47] <cnimo> hello everyone, I cannot connect to 2 wireless networks. one is an open mesh network, and the other's password is correctly entered.this happened lately at one other place, where I also had to enter password over browser, but the page didnt ever show up. is it possibly a problem with the settings?
[12:48] <diecastarts> Morning all I have been havinh alot of trouble with bumblebee/optirun from working I tried to purge and install again and again. rebooted everytime.  webpages are not helping me here is the error trying to run optirun http://pastebin.com/wyuZQWZU   running Lubuntu 13.10 64bit
[12:50] <spillere> geirha: thanks!!!
[12:50] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip ey man, i can control the volume but its stuck till 0 and 1
[12:51] <geirha> spillere: Err wait, that's not quite right. It won't catch the leaf nodes
[12:52] <geirha> spillere: find . -type f -name "*.flac" -execdir bash -c 'for f; do ffmpeg -i "$f" -ab 320k "${f%.flac}.mp3" && rm "$f"; done' _ {} +
[12:52] <spillere> geirha:  it worked for one folder
[12:52] <spillere> will it get more then one subdirectory?
[12:53] <geirha> that should recursively find all flac files, starting from ./, and convert them
[12:53] <spillere> geirha: you are the best! thanks
[12:55] <buer> Hi anyone has an idea why ubuntu would boot to failsafe X when there is working xorg.conf
[12:59] <diecastarts> ANYONE KNOW ABOUT BUMBLEBEE????????????
[13:01] <buer> I have tried apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core,xserver-xorg,xserver-xorg-video-intel ... but no luck , i pulled out nvidai graphics and trying to run get booting right for onboard intel ... i am in graphics mode but it involves some trickery from console
[13:02] <cfhowlett> !bumblebee
[13:02] <buer> ubuntu just boot straight to fallback an there is blank screen X -config xorg.conf prings up nice working graphics
[13:02] <diecastarts> omg.
[13:02] <diecastarts> omg.
[13:03] <diecastarts> Morning all I have been havinh alot of trouble with bumblebee/optirun from working I tried to purge and install again and again. rebooted everytime.  webpages are not helping me here is the error trying to run optirun http://pastebin.com/wyuZQWZU   running Lubuntu 13.10 64bit
[13:04] <buer> is there an option for X -config for vide driver
[13:04] <buer> like X -config -<something> intel
[13:05] <spillere> geirha: the last one didn't work
[13:05] <Kruppt> diecastarts: did you read?: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[13:06] <geirha> spillere: Oh? what's the error?
[13:07] <diecastarts> I have I been on the web all night trying to fix this.. None it works.. all they tell me to do is reinstall
[13:07] <diecastarts> I need help I never get it.. From #bumblebee or Lubuntu
[13:07] <spillere> I get an error with flac conversion like: 03 Ainda lembro.flac: No such file or directory
[13:08] <geirha> spillere: Odd, I don't see any reason for that happening other than there being two such processes running at the same time
[13:09] <cfhowlett> !patiience|diecastarts,
[13:09] <cfhowlett> !patience|diecastarts,
[13:09] <OerHeks> spillere, funny paces in names can do that
[13:09] <OerHeks> *spaces
[13:09] <spillere> maybe the name with spaces?
[13:10] <geirha> spillere: No, spaces won't matter
[13:11] <rwsq1> diecastarts, is it all enabled in the bios?
[13:11] <geirha> spillere: Are you sure there's no other find running; It sounds like something has snapped up that file and converted it already, so you probably have a .mp3 version of that now instead.
[13:11] <spillere> geirha: maybe it's not converting on write folder?
[13:11] <buer> failsafe X anyone, how i force ubunto not to go there ... I have working xorg.conf
[13:12] <diecastarts> rwsq1, it should be.. I think it started because I did a apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:12] <spillere> 01 Tailgunner.flac: No such file or directory maybe it's trying to convert the file but not giving the folder?
[13:13] <diecastarts> didn't think it would hurt but it seem to have
[13:13] <rwsq1> ps auxww | grep bumble
[13:13] <rwsq1> diecastarts, does that return anything?
[13:13] <geirha> spillere: -execdir makes sure to "cd" into the dir containing flac files before running the bash process
[13:13] <spillere> ahh
[13:13] <spillere> i have like 10 folders with flacs inside
[13:13] <spillere> i want to convert the those files
[13:14] <masood> anyone has idea of this error : ldapsam_create_user: Unable to allocate a new user id: bailing out! Failed to add entry for user br.  it happens when I create a new user by pdbedit -af
[13:14] <diecastarts> rwsq1, ???? does what return what. did you see my pastebin??
[13:14] <rwsq1> if you type what I put into a terminal, does that return anything?
[13:14] <spillere> geirha: the script that I had already did that, but i want to do in a way that i can use the command in any folder and it checks the subfolders for flac files
[13:15] <diecastarts> sorry did see that trying
[13:15] <geirha> spillere: And that's what that find is doing, but it sounds like something else is running in the background
[13:15] <diecastarts> 1000     10219  0.0  0.0  20448   940 pts/2    S+   09:15   0:00 grep --color=auto bumble
[13:15] <spillere> just used that command in a folder WITH flac on the root folder and its workin
[13:16] <rwsq1> diecastarts, ok so bumblebee isn't running
[13:17] <diecastarts> yes it will not start
[13:17] <rwsq1> ok so it could be that the bios setting has changed
[13:17] <rwsq1> on my laptop (dell) every so often the bios loses the optirun config
[13:18] <rwsq1> so before you do anything else I would check that
[13:18] <diecastarts> I can try.. that happen once with windows7 but its odd
[13:18] <rwsq1> if it is enabled, then try purging all the bumblebee packages
[13:18] <rwsq1> and then reinstall them
[13:18] <bananapie> I have three machines running Ubuntu. Machine A connects to eth0 on machine b machine c connects to eth1 on machine b. I want to measure throughput from machine A to Machine C ( crossing Machine B ). Kind of like speedtest.net or something. Is there a tool that can easily do this in ubuntu?
[13:19] <rwsq1> bananapie: iptraf
[13:19] <diecastarts> k rwsq1 thank you
[13:19] <bananapie> sorry, I was unclear. I need a tool that will measure throughput AND generate traffic to see how much it can handle.
[13:19] <rwsq1> bananapie: wget?
[13:19] <Munster> metaphysician, your chrome repos is most likely a ppa, correct if so then if you don't want any updates from atm , you can comment the line with # at the beginning of the deb line in the /etc/apt/sources.list, and the source will be ignored on any updates/upgrades until you uncomment it.
[13:20] <rwsq1> scp?
[13:20] <bananapie> That sounds good. I'll create  a dummy file with dd if=/dev/urandom of=/var/www/test.bin
[13:20] <bananapie> scp uses encryption, so I can't trust it as the CPU may slow it down.
[13:20] <bananapie> I'll use wget, it's a good suggestion.
[13:20] <bananapie> thanks
[13:21] <rwsq1> yeah the encryption overhead does make a difference, you'll probably find if you are on gigabit that you have difficulty sending at full speed
[13:21] <rwsq1> if you want a raw socket you can use netcat
[13:21] <rwsq1> bananapie, http://deice.daug.net/netcat_speed.html
[13:24] <Guest83723> I have a laptop with Nvidia Cuda. I want to disable it to preserve battery. I know bumblee can disable Nvidia optimus but what about cuda?
[13:26] <diecastarts> rwsq1, thank you very much for the help that was it.. I wish i would have booted to windows because i would have found out that was the real problem. but again Thank you very very Much
[13:27] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip ey man, i can control the volume but its stuck till 0 and 1
[13:28] <rwsq1> diecastarts, no worries
[13:29] <Guest83723> GPU problem.I have a laptop with Nvidia Cuda. I want to disable it to preserve battery. I know bumblee can disable Nvidia optimus but what about cuda?
[13:30] <A1Recon> I got a new Laptop, installed Win 7 64-bit Ultimate on it. Now I trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 x64 on it using a Bootable USB. But the Ubuntu installation says "No other OS detected" and shows the entire 1 TB drive as empty. What do I do? How Do I keep both Win 7 and Ubuntu?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> !uefi|A1Recon, new lappy?  Almost certainly efi
[13:30] <budi_> I used dongle bluertooth then ubuntu hanged, why? ... sorry for my bad english
[13:31] <diecastarts> Guest83723, with the newest bumblebee it using bbswitch for the power saving
[13:31] <Guest83723> diecastarts: Yes but does it work with Cuda?
[13:31] <A1Recon> Also when I try to shrink the C drive(931.4 GB partition) I can only shrink the C drive upto 470 GB. Why is that?
[13:32] <Guest83723> A1Recon: defragment and reshrink
[13:32] <diecastarts> Guest83723, Yes it always uses it
[13:32] <Guest83723> diecastarts: Ok
[13:32] <diecastarts> !bumblebee
[13:32] <Guest83723> diecastarts: Thank you
[13:32] <diecastarts> at the buttom of the page it talks about cuda
[13:32] <A1Recon> Guest83723: Do I have to use some 3rd party program to defragment?
[13:33] <cfhowlett> !defrag
[13:33] <Guest83723> A1Recon: there is an defragmentor builtin windows or you can use any 3rd party. No problem
[13:34] <A1Recon> OK so I am using the inbuilt "Disk Defragmenter"
[13:35] <Guest83723> A1Recon: it should work. I generally avoid MS inbuild softs. I am using TuneUp
[13:36] <jitesh> hiiiii....
[13:37] <test_osteron> hat schon jemand ubuntu phone ausprobiert??
[13:38] <cfhowlett> !de|test_osteron,
[13:38] <onlty> !ko|onlty
[13:38] <Chuck_Norris> aloha all
[13:38] <Chuck_Norris> are we the best comunity in tha world?
[13:39] <onlty> Fortuneately, he doesn't have kick permission
[13:40] <onlty> roundhouse-kick
[13:40] <test_osteron> ubottu,: no problem, thought i was on ther german server
[13:50] <Phil42> friday is splurge on lunch day, where should i go?
[13:52] <Phil42> no lunch today?
[13:52] <daftykins> Phil42: what are the choices?
[13:53] <Phil42> almost all the chain places
[13:53] <bananapie> Not burger king, where I live it takes 20 minutes to get through Burger King's drive through
[13:53] <Phil42> i quit eating at burger king long ago
[13:53] <bananapie> good call
[13:53] <bananapie> my wife made chicken rice for me.
[13:54] <Phil42> i don't eat at a place where i have to worry if i will get a disease
[13:54] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get purge wopper
[13:54] <Phil42> uh oh,   major software update,  reboot required
[13:54] <bananapie> Connection timed out
[13:56] <bananapie> Can I attach a virtual console to a virsh domain without restarting the virtual machine ?
[14:01] <bananapie> nevermind, it won't work. I have to restart the domains.
[14:02] <Chuck_Norris> are we the best comunity in tha world?
[14:03] <superlinux-hp> hi. how can I stop any  media player  from running automatically on mobile phone plugin?
[14:03] <rymate1234> yay weechat
[14:03] <SASDOE> Mhh so after trying linux mint and after that installing ubuntu 13.10, I still have the same problems every time, ie no wireless, and crashes and log me out whenever the load climbs a tiny bit.. I'd first like to fix the crashes, seemingly caused by Xorg since I got a message saying xorg failed to idle channel something. This is on a Macbook Pro 7.1
[14:03] <demianb> Ubuntu is so sweet, I wanna pee myself.
[14:05] <arachnia> is there a filer where you can force a 'replace if newer' option when copying files?
[14:06] <inspiron> What launcher is that you're using 20 secs into the video? Also, what theme are you using?
[14:06] <inspiron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ZAkCZZyb8
[14:06] <inspiron> please i need it
[14:07] <inspiron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ZAkCZZyb8
[14:07] <inspiron> What launcher is that you're using 20 secs into the video? Also, what theme are you using?
[14:07] <inspiron> please i need it
[14:10] <qwertyj> What launcher is that you're using 20 secs into the video? Also, what theme are you using?
[14:10] <qwertyj> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ZAkCZZyb8
[14:10] <unixbeardxd> qwertyj: please stop spamming the chat.
[14:10] <onlty> Did (s)he spammed?
[14:10] <unixbeardxd> Same question three times
[14:11] <onlty> uh oh
[14:12] <onlty> qwertyj, no one seems to answer it
[14:12] <unixbeardxd> qwertyj: I looked at the video, it's some Unity-based popup folder launcher that I've never seen before.
[14:14] <unixbeardxd> qwertyj: maybe you should leave a youtube comment.