[06:58] <amicrawle> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak: No such file or directory
[06:58] <Softly> sup?
[06:58] <cyberfr0g> sup
[06:58] <dabaR> I thought I was in unregged.
[06:58] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, interesting to note that the main program for *artists* The GIMP is not written with Qt
[06:58] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, and by the way, Qt is not free
[06:58] <Neo8750> dahlstrom: the alternative cd
[06:58] <kristjin> I am trying to get Totem to play CSS encrypted DVD's and although I have completed a "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh" successfully, it is not working.  Totem still reports "Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it."
[06:58] <slavik> wtf? weird
[06:58] <slavik> ok
[06:58] <slavik> do: cd /etc/X11
[06:58] <ArrenLex> QT is not free if you don't develop GPL apps with it.
[06:58] <ArrenLex> I think that's reasonable.
[06:58] <dahlstrom> i was under the impression the alternative was an install CD
[06:59] <amicrawle> ok
[06:59] <DanaG> Ooh:  http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/32314146/
[06:59] <ArrenLex> dahlstrom: I think you might be looking for the 'alternative' cd
[06:59] <DanaG> but d***it, it's for Windows.
[06:59] <slavik> then do: sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup
[06:59] <amicrawle> did
[06:59] <slavik> DanaG: gnome-llok has clearlooks
[06:59] <ArrenLex> What's for Windows, Dana?
[06:59] <slavik> amicrawle: no errors?
[06:59] <DanaG> Not orange, I believe.
[06:59] <amicrawle> nope
[06:59] <cyberfr0g> secret
[06:59] <ziro01> confidential
[06:59] <Softly> fun
[07:00] <dahlstrom> hmm
[07:00] <slavik> amicrawle: good, now do: gksudo gedit xorg.conf
[07:00] <amicrawle> ok
[07:00] <amicrawle> there is nothing
[07:00] <kristjin> Can nobody help me with DVD playback in Totem?
[07:01] <amicrawle> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[07:01] <amicrawle> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[07:01] <jazzrocker> kaffeine is nice
[07:01] <slavik> amicrawle: before we edit the file, in case it doesn't work, you will have to use the console to go the the /etc/X11 directory and move the backup file to the original place (sudo cp xorg.conf.backup xorg.conf) write this down if you need to
[07:01] <slavik> amicrawle: the use sudo instead of gksudo
[07:01] <dabaR> kristjin: have you read the ubotu factoid on dvd?
[07:02] <amicrawle> cp: cannot stat `xorg.conf.backup': No such file or directory
[07:02] <jazzrocker> !restricted > kristjin
[07:02] <kristjin> Don't think I've run across that yet.  Sounds like a gem.  Can you point me, please?
[07:02] <ludedeeds> ... where the hell are the xlibs? they aren't on the repos.. but they're required for cedega
[07:02] <slavik> amicrawle: good, now do: sudo gedit xorg.conf
[07:02] <ArrenLex> amicrawle: have you configured X at all? I'm getting the vibe that xorg.conf does not exist for you.
[07:02] <jazzrocker> ludedeeds, uhhh, the x dev libs are indeed in the repos iirc. you need them for libgtk-dev
[07:02] <amicrawle> ok nothing is on it
[07:02] <amicrawle> to edit
[07:03] <jazzrocker> ludedeeds, did you enable universe/reload ?
[07:03] <slavik> I see
[07:03] <wastrel> ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:03] <slavik> amicrawle: did you use the desktop install or what?
[07:03] <ludedeeds> i have all repos enabled
[07:03] <amicrawle> yes  dapper
[07:03] <ludedeeds> except source repositories
[07:03] <kristjin> thx
[07:03] <Peregrino> Hi all!
[07:03] <slavik> and the xorg.conf file is empty?
[07:03] <ludedeeds> and i have xlibs-dev installed already
[07:03] <ludedeeds> but when i try to run the cedega install deb
[07:04] <amicrawle> yes it is
[07:04] <ludedeeds> it says...
[07:04] <slavik> are you sure you ran sudo gedit xorg.conf while you were in the /etc/X11 directory (case matters)
[07:04] <slavik> X11 is not same as x11
[07:04] <Peregrino> Can anyone help me with boot scripts?
[07:04] <ludedeeds> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs
[07:05] <Samuli^> amicrawle, try: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:05] <jazzrocker> ludedeeds, did you sudo apt-get install libx11-dev ?
[07:05] <flipfone> i have a question. i just ripped a cd with sound juicer then load the flac files to amarok. i get this error: Error Loading Media
[07:05] <flipfone> No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported.
[07:05] <flipfone> show:collectionSetup
[07:05] <Peregrino> I'm kinda noob with this linux thing, but eager to lern ^__^
[07:05] <Peregrino> *learn
[07:05] <amicrawle> ok got some were
[07:05] <jazzrocker> ludedeeds, did you google for "cedega ubuntu" yet?
[07:05] <ludedeeds> no
[07:05] <subpar> Peregrino: you'd be surprised how many of us are :)
[07:06] <slavik> hmm, you moved the file instead of copying
[07:06] <jazzrocker> Peregrino, what do you need to know?
[07:06] <slavik> amicrawle: scroll all the way down
[07:06] <rody> hi
[07:06] <amicrawle> did
[07:06] <subpar> does anyone know of a good metronome program?
[07:06] <slavik> amicrawle: just before the very bottom, there is a section with resolutions and such
[07:06] <rody> how i install e17 on ubuntu
[07:06] <slavik> paste that section into pastebin
[07:06] <ludedeeds> libx11-dev is also installed
[07:06] <rody> i can find no repo for install
[07:06] <Peregrino> Subpar: I want to make linux to run certain commands at boot time
[07:06] <ArrenLex> @subpar: apt-cache search is your friend.
[07:06] <slavik> rody: carefully ;)
[07:06] <amicrawle> Section "Screen"
[07:06] <amicrawle>   Identifier "Default Screen"
[07:06] <amicrawle>   Device "NVIDIA Corporation NV36.4 [GeForce FX 5700VE] "
[07:06] <amicrawle>   Monitor "StudioDsply1"
[07:06] <amicrawle>   DefaultDepth 24
[07:06] <amicrawle>   SubSection "Display"
[07:06] <jazzrocker> ludedeeds, so google for "cedega ubuntu"
[07:06] <amicrawle>     depth 24
[07:06] <amicrawle>     modes "1280x960@60" "1280x1024@60" "1400x1050@60" "1600x1200@60"
[07:06] <ArrenLex> apt-cache search metronome : gtick - Metronome application
[07:06] <amicrawle>   EndSubSection
[07:06] <myatthu> stop
[07:06] <jazzrocker> amicrawle, don't paste in here
[07:06] <amicrawle> EndSection
[07:06] <subpar> ahhhh
[07:06] <amicrawle> that what i have
[07:06] <slavik> oh p00p
[07:07] <myatthu> !paste
[07:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:07] <slavik> my fault
[07:07] <rody> sladen, ?
[07:07] <Peregrino> jazzrocker: I want to make linux to run certain commands at boot time
[07:07] <subpar> ArrenLex: indeed it is, except gtick doesn't work very well, and that's all it comes back with :)
[07:07] <jazzrocker> Peregrino, such as what.
[07:07] <slavik> rody: e17 is alpha/beta and will NEVER be in dapper through repos
[07:07] <mabus> What do I need to do to have my ssh connectable from another computer?
[07:07] <amicrawle> slavik now what
[07:07] <jazzrocker> rody, if you want enlightenment don't use ubuntu, go get e-live
[07:08] <slavik> amicrawle: what resolution do you want?
[07:08] <Peregrino> Mhh, I want to configure my IP settings and make a symbolic link
[07:08] <mabus> I forwarded the port on my router but it didn't seem to work/help
[07:08] <jazzrocker> mabus, start the SSH daemon
[07:08] <rody> sladen, thanks for help
[07:08] <jazzrocker> mabus, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:08] <amicrawle> 1280x960@60
[07:08] <wastrel> mabus:  can you ssh localhost on that system?
[07:08] <jazzrocker> mabus, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start <- sorry the "d" is important
[07:08] <Peregrino> jazzrocker: Mhh, I want to configure my IP settings and make a symbolic link
[07:08] <ludedeeds> will look.. but nearly all of them are just walkthroughs to use cedegacvs
[07:08] <slavik> then you should be able to select it ...
[07:08] <Another_User> i accidently have amarok playing one song to the next without allowing the song to play.  i'm unable to right click or use any shift, ctrl, alt keys.  any help to stop amarok
[07:08] <amicrawle> ok
[07:08] <ludedeeds> which i'd like to not have to use
[07:08] <Cyberjames> hi, anybody knows of any good software for internet cafe management? thanks
[07:08] <jazzrocker> Peregrino, what does making a symbolic link have anything to do with configuring your IP?
[07:09] <jazzrocker> Cyberjames, what do you want to manage
[07:09] <amicrawle> nope
[07:09] <jazzrocker> Cyberjames, linux is a perfect OS for that sort of thing
[07:09] <Peregrino> jazzrocker: these are two separate things.
[07:09] <amicrawle> still stuck on 630x480
[07:09] <slavik> amicrawle: if not, try restarting the X server (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace) and then you should be able to get the resolution you want
[07:09] <myatthu> Another_User, ps aux | grep amarok and then kill the amarok pid
[07:09] <wastrel> Cyberjames:  maybe the ltsp stuff on edubuntu - lots of control of the terminals ...
[07:09] <ArrenLex> Another_User, just run killall amarok
[07:10] <jazzrocker> Peregrino, well configuring your IP is not done via "startup scripts" it's done via Main Menu -> System -> Administration -> Networking
[07:10] <wastrel> ah there's also that kiosk stuff
[07:10] <Peregrino> jazzrocker: One is for a SSL/TLC package (the link) and the other is just that, setting my IP values
[07:10] <amicrawle> do i need to reset x now
[07:10] <slavik> yes
[07:10] <amicrawle> what did we do
[07:10] <jazzrocker> Peregrino, uhhh and why do you need this magical link?
[07:10] <jazzrocker> amicrawle, CTRL-ALT-Backspace
[07:10] <amicrawle> in all that typying cp and all that
[07:10] <Peregrino> jazzrocker: It's thet I'm Using Slax in an USB Stick >_<
[07:10] <slavik> amicrawle: made sure you had the resolution you wanted for X to use and made a backup of the config file :)
[07:10] <jazzrocker> i don't know what slax is
[07:11] <Peregrino> jazzrocker: So each time I boot, I have to edit that manually
[07:11] <ArrenLex> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slax
[07:11] <slavik> p00p
[07:11] <slavik> oh well, I need sleep
[07:11] <slavik> night all
[07:11] <Peregrino> Minimal Slackware distro
[07:11] <jazzrocker> ah
[07:12] <Peregrino> So I was wondering for some magic script or something to make that changes moer "permanent"
[07:12] <jazzrocker> so what does your USB stick with Slax have to do with Ubuntu? and why are you under the impression that you need to modify the startup scripts
[07:12] <ArrenLex> Well, I'm gonna go. Hope I didn't screw anyone over with my stupid advice too badly!
[07:12] <ArrenLex> See you.
[07:12] <wastrel> slax eh
[07:12] <Anubuntu> hello
[07:13] <Peregrino> jazzrocker: 1) Here is a great communnity of friendly linux users 2) I'm A completely noob and wanted to know what to edit XD
[07:13] <Anubuntu> can anyone tell me how to find out my computers MAC adress with ubuntu?
[07:13] <surface> Anubuntu ifconfig
[07:13] <Another_User> CTRL+ALT+Backspace finally worked
[07:13] <jazzrocker> Peregrino, so why not ask #slackware
[07:13] <Another_User> It got so bad, I was unable to type
[07:13] <Neo8750> fconfig
[07:13] <jerware> does ubuntu make a decent server for the corporate world ?
[07:13] <Neo8750>  ifconfig
[07:13] <jazzrocker> Anubuntu, the networking panel will tel lyou
[07:14] <surface> Anubuntu ifconfig | grep HWaddr
[07:14] <Neo8750> surface: the moment i get it typed and goto hit enter you already have it
[07:14] <jtkiefer> jerwere, I don't see why not, it's flexible, and powerful
[07:15] <surface> Neo8750:  ha, thats okay.
[07:15] <jtkiefer> and with the right packages installed it can be used for pretty much any purpose
[07:15] <DanaG> What's up with this:  (2-line paste, will wait a moment)
[07:15] <DanaG>  /usr/bin/lesspipe: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
[07:15] <DanaG>  bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
[07:15] <Neo8750> do you have fork installed?
[07:15] <DanaG> Nothing new will open.
[07:15] <surface> DanaG, need to restart ur server.
[07:15] <wastrel> process table full?  filesystem full?
[07:16] <DanaG> How can I tell which it is?
[07:16] <ludedeeds> jazzrocker: so now i have to use alien to convert the deb to a tgz then back to a deb.. how annoying =(
[07:16] <DanaG> Hmm, amarok seemed leaky, or something.
[07:17] <surface> DanaG:  its either out of mem or some serious hardware failure
[07:17] <surface> DanaG:  try xmms then
[07:17] <DanaG> Well, I have a gig of RAM, but half is being used as cache.
[07:18] <DanaG> Hmm, "mconf" was eating resources.
[07:18] <jtkiefer> brb
[07:19] <jazzrocker> ludedeeds, ahhh, that's too bad
[07:19] <surface> DanaG:  u can check it out with htop, sort by memory, see who is the bad guy
[07:19] <Another_User> How do I change the driver for a wifi device to the driver that I use with kismet?
[07:19] <Gradius9> sethk, did not get it to work, have to try it another box, before I can conclude it is broke
[07:20] <myatthu> surface, is it htop or top ? cause i don't have htop ..
[07:20] <surface> myatthu:  sudo apt-get install htop if u wish, htop is more interactive top
[07:20] <simplecode> how to use amule?
[07:21] <myatthu> ah i see
[07:21] <anup> hi, i'm trying to use democracy player but my downloaded tvshows won't play. I'm sure that the codecs are installed because i can play them in vlc... anyone have any ideas?
[07:22] <Another_User> How do I change the driver for a wifi device to the driver that I use with kismet?(does this make sense?)
[07:23] <Samuli^> anup, vlc comes with its own codecs.
[07:26] <Another_User> Can someone help me change the driver of my wifi device?
[07:26] <anup> Samuli^: you're right, they won't play in totem.  I thought i had installed all the codecs, do you know how i should instll the correct codecs or where i could go to find out how?
[07:27] <sicuser> help: what is the command to count the number of lines in a file?
[07:27] <wastrel> wc -l
[07:27] <ArrenLex> Ha!  En garde!
[07:28] <sicuser> ...
[07:28] <sicuser> thanks wastrek
[07:30] <Gibbonz> wondering if there's something that can fix problems with right click menus sometimes acting screwy, like closing soon as they open...
[07:31] <Samuli^> !restrictedformats > anup
[07:31] <jp82> hi
[07:32] <surface> sicuser:  use apropos to search for command, it helps somehow. or check out www.linuxbyexample.co.nr
[07:32] <anup> thanks
[07:33] <jp82> I am very new to Ubuntu, and Linux in general...and I cannot figure out for the life of me how to get my wireless internet working, or how to install my video card drivers, etc etc
[07:34] <ArrenLex> jp82: what video card do you have? Is your wireless card supported on Linux?
[07:35] <jp82> radeon 9600
[07:35] <jp82> and...I dunno
[07:35] <anup> jp82: i'm not an expert either but go to digg and search "wireless ubuntu" and i there are alot of tutorials, that's how i got mine working
[07:36] <ArrenLex> jp82: I assume that you have 2d working and want 3d?
[07:36] <anup> digg.com that is
[07:36] <Lam_> what option can i add to my video device section under gconf to force my nvidia card to scale images to aspect ratio instead of monitor?  i hate having a 4:3 game stretched horizontally to 16:10
[07:37] <SurfnKid> how can you get a list of packets that are beingg processed in a VT
[07:37] <SurfnKid> real-tie
[07:37] <SurfnKid> s/tie/time
[07:39] <infidel> c
[07:39] <SurfnKid> splitO?
[07:40] <CokeNCode> ok, i updated, and now flash is broken
[07:40] <CokeNCode> what hte heck is going on ? anyone else having this problem ?
[07:40] <jp82> ok, it would appear my wireless card is indeed supported by Linux
[07:40] <ArrenLex> Coke: "broken"?
[07:40] <surface> SurfnKid:  what is VT?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> (23:36:25) ArrenLex: jp82: I assume that you have 2d working and want 3d?
[07:41] <CokeNCode> yeh, ArrenLex , it doesn't seem to be installed anymore
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Well then install Flash again.
[07:41] <SurfnKid> virtual terminal
[07:41] <CokeNCode> what's the latest version available for linux ?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> 7.
[07:41] <CokeNCode> and what broke the installation in the first place
[07:41] <Fraj^Sleep> hi
[07:41] <nostrada> quick question. I have a X/Windows session into my Dapper server and can start xterm from my laptop OK. Is there a way to have the complete desktop redirected to my machine? (With the menu at the top, applications/preferences and so on)
[07:41] <Fraj^Sleep> iv downloaded a new login screen
[07:41] <Fraj^Sleep> how do i install it?
[07:42] <SurfnKid> brb
[07:42] <surface> nostrada, vnc , nx or ssh can do tat
[07:43] <nostrada> surface, does it matter that I do not have a screen connected to my machine?
[07:43] <myatthu> Fraj^Sleep, system->admin->login windows
[07:43] <surface> nostrada:  it doesn't matter
[07:43] <nostrada> and I guess I would need to install a vnc server on ubuntu first, right?
[07:43] <surface> nostrada:  my fren use vnc, his computer have no monitor, and he connect through his notebook
[07:44] <surface> nostrada:  yup
[07:44] <nostrada> but you are correct, vnc would be a good solution, much easier than running a complete X/Windows server
[07:44] <nostrada> thanks surface
[07:44] <surface> nostrada:  welcome
[07:44] <Lam_> is there a way to edit xorg.conf to force my nvidia card to scale things like games to aspect ratio instead of monitor ratio?
[07:45] <myatthu> Fraj^Sleep, managed to change the login screen ?
[07:46] <Fraj> not yet
[07:46] <Fraj> thanks
[07:46] <Fraj> :)
[07:46] <yusufm> I have a question about packages like apache2. How do I know where things get installed and where the config files are?
[07:46] <TeePOG> morning all
[07:47] <ArrenLex> yusfm: if you want to know without installing the package, look it up on packages.ubuntu.com and check the file list for your architecture.
[07:47] <noiesmo> yusufm, the config files end up in /etc/apache2
[07:48] <dfgas_> anyone good with samba here?
[07:48] <dfgas_> samba server
[07:48] <andaraone> can anyone help me with setting up a wireless network connection
[07:48] <noiesmo> dfgas_, I have one whats your Q
[07:49] <ArrenLex> yusfm: if you've already installed the package, find it in /var/cache/apt/archives and run "dpkg-deb -c" on it, which will list contents.
[07:49] <yusufm> noisemo, is all this infomaiton stored somewhere or do we need to track it down each time?
[07:49] <dfgas_> noiesmo,    i  lost my samba, it shows its running but no one can connect to it anymore. i was coping a file over and it just died
[07:49] <noiesmo> yusufm, the main config files like sites avail and sits enable and httpd.conf are in /etc/apache2
[07:50] <dfgas_> noiesmo,  i have restarted it several times and also tried stoping it and restarting it
[07:50] <CokeNCode> drat ... flash website down for maintenance
[07:50] <CokeNCode> i'm stuck without it
[07:51] <dfgas_> noiesmo, the only thing i haven't tried is a total system reboot
[07:51] <noiesmo> dfgas_, maybe try adding a new user and password with smbpasswd
[07:51] <dfgas_> noiesmo, is share access
[07:51] <noiesmo> dfgas_, also check firewall iptables make sure its not got blocked for some reason
[07:52] <dfgas_> noiesmo, no software firewall
[07:53] <dfgas_> maybe vmware windowsxp is affecting it
[07:54] <noiesmo> dfgas_, not sure dont use vmware
[07:54] <dfgas_> i shut it down and checking now
[07:55] <dfgas_> is there way to get samba to start up in debug mode?
[07:57] <noiesmo> dfgas_, whats in the /var/log/samba/
[07:57] <dfgas_> a ton of log files
[07:58] <dfgas_> [2006/09/21 00:51:20, 0]  lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1225)
[07:58] <dfgas_>   getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
[07:58] <dfgas_> any idea on that?
[07:59] <exs> Hello. How do I set CTRL + ALT + DELETE as the shortcut for system monitor?
[07:59] <noiesmo> dfgas_, google is your friend check this http://www.linuxaa.com/ftopic6568.html havent read but
[08:01] <noiesmo> exs, check System > Preferences > keyboard > Layout Options >
[08:01] <noiesmo> exs, not 100% but start point
[08:02] <Another_User> @exs, the answer to your question is at http://ubuntuguide.org/
[08:02] <noiesmo> dfgas_, this looks interesting also http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2004-April/084048.html
[08:03] <AbortD> !sdl
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <dfgas_> this is weird, it seems it is working again
[08:03] <dfgas_> but i am looking up the error
[08:03] <noiesmo> dfgas_, ghosts in the machine :)
[08:03] <dfgas_> lol
[08:04] <infidel> anyone using the 2.6.18 kernel?
[08:05] <jrsims> So. Anyone running irssi?
[08:05] <jrsims> I've installed it, but as people chat, I can only see like 1 line updating (scrolling) with the new text.
[08:05] <AbortD> maybe its a sign?
[08:06] <jrsims> I have no clue what would cause that
[08:06] <jrsims> it's always worked out of the box, everytime
[08:06] <jrsims> but not this time
[08:06] <wastrel> what terminal are you using?
[08:06] <jrsims> so I'm in xchat now (which is icky)
[08:06] <jrsims> Gnome terminal
[08:07] <TeePOG> that was for other server, sorry
[08:09] <Byan> uhm, I am trying to complie something.. I've never actually done that before..
[08:10] <Byan> and when I do ./configure it says that my makeinfo is missing and that my C compiler cannot creat executables
[08:10] <Madpilot> Byan, what're you trying to compile?
[08:10] <Byan> opendchub
[08:10] <Flannel> Byan: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:11] <Flannel> Byan: however, openbdchub is in the repositories, you sure you need to compile your own?
[08:11] <Madpilot> !info openbdchub
[08:11] <ubotu> Package openbdchub does not exist in any distro I know
[08:11] <Madpilot> hmm
[08:11] <Flannel> !info opendchub
[08:11] <Flannel> no b
[08:11] <ubotu> opendchub: DC (Direct Connect P2P network) hub clone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.14-1.2 (dapper), package size 89 kB, installed size 280 kB
[08:11] <Madpilot> ah, my bad
[08:11] <Flannel> just mash your keyboard, it'll work itself out
[08:13] <Byan> hmmm
[08:13] <Madpilot> Byan, do you have Universe repo enabled?
[08:13] <Byan> Flannel: I did not know that
[08:13] <Byan> for some reason I didn't think it would be
[08:13] <Byan> Madpilot: no idea
[08:13] <Flannel> that's a no.
[08:13] <Flannel> !universe
[08:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:13] <Madpilot> Byan, it's not enabled by default, so no, you don't
[08:13] <Flannel> see the second link
[08:14] <RagePrblm> Can someone help me with something called Totem
[08:14] <Madpilot> Byan, there's something like 16,000 packages in Universe (give or take a few thousand) - **everything** is in there ;)
[08:14] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, what's the problem?
[08:15] <RagePrblm> I just installed Ubuntu, and I ran all the updates and now the sound doesnt work, it says Totem didnt start and it cannot establish a connection the the sound server
[08:15] <thenetduck> does anyone know how to edit a grub boot loader?
[08:16] <thenetduck> can't find where to do this
[08:16] <RagePrblm> A guy told me to switch to xfce to use their media player but now that im in xfce it doesnt work either for the sound
[08:16] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, did sound work when you first installed, before you did the updates?
[08:16] <Flannel> thenetduck: you mean the menu? /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:16] <noiesmo> thenetduck, /boot/grub/menu.1st
[08:16] <RagePrblm> Madpilot yes it did
[08:16] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, odd. Do you remember what updates there were? (Lots, I'm guessing...)
[08:16] <RagePrblm> 176 updates :\
[08:16] <Flannel> noiesmo: no 1, l (as in list)
[08:17] <noiesmo> Flannel, oops my bad :(
[08:17] <noiesmo> sorry abuout that
[08:17] <thenetduck> Flannel : I installed Dreamlinux on one of my hard drives and don't want it anymore, but it installed GRUB on the MBR so I want to go back to the to just auto booting into my Xubuntu partition
[08:17] <RagePrblm> Another dude told me to run a command, which showed what audio devices nd drivers were installed, and I recognized the intel one as the one nvidia said should work for the Nforce 2 boards
[08:18] <thenetduck> Flannel do you know how to fix this?
[08:18] <Flannel> thenetduck: You want DreamLinux to still be available, just change the default? or...
[08:18] <AbortD> what do i need to compile code?
[08:18] <Byan> so, what am I doing at this link?
[08:18] <thenetduck> Flannel: i want to format Dreamlinux and just have it default boot into my Xubuntu partition
[08:18] <Flannel> Byan: you're enabling universe
[08:18] <Madpilot> Byan, you're enabling the Universe repository
[08:19] <Flannel> thenetduck: alright, so, just remove the Dreamlinux entries in your grub menu, and then you'll reformat it's partitions
[08:19] <thenetduck> Flannel: Dreamlinux is on a 40gb hard drive and Xubuntu is on a 160gb hard drive
[08:19] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, sound issues aren't something I'm good at, and they can be tough to track down...
[08:19] <RagePrblm> oh, fair enough - do you know how I can install the ubuntu desktop again
[08:19] <Byan> uh.. how?
[08:19] <Flannel> thenetduck: Youre using dapper or breezy?
[08:19] <thenetduck> Flannel: dapper
[08:19] <AbortD> what do i need to compile code?
[08:19] <RagePrblm> was it like sudo apt-get install-ubuntu or something
[08:19] <Flannel> thenetduck: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:19] <Flannel> thenetduck: pastebin it,
[08:20] <Flannel> !paste
[08:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:20] <wastrel> AbortD:  build-essential
[08:20] <AbortD> thanks forgot what it was called
[08:20] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, ubuntu-desktop, I think
[08:21] <RagePrblm> so the full command would be sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[08:21] <Madpilot> Byan, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:21] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, yes
[08:21] <RagePrblm> thank you
[08:21] <Flannel> Byan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:22] <thenetduck> Flannel: ok it should be comming up
[08:23] <Flannel> thenetduck: copy the url and paste it here ;)
[08:24] <wept> why is thunderbird stuck at ersion 1.5 in breezy?  is it possible to update it somehow, or am i just screwed until i upgrade to dapper?
[08:24] <thenetduck> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/791041
[08:24] <thenetduck> there ya go
[08:24] <Flannel> wept: it's at 1.5 in breezy?  is there a backports version?
[08:25] <wept> im not sure...i dont have that enabled in my sources cause the warning about no review/security updates scared me ;)
[08:25] <RagePrblm> Does anyone here know how to fix errors with Totem?
[08:25] <Flannel> wept: heh, well, I... thought, it was 1.0.X in breezy, (like firefox), you'd get 1.5 upgrading to dapper.
[08:26] <Flannel> thenetduck: er, this doesn't have DreamLinux on it at all.
[08:26] <wept> it says 1.5, but there have been security releases since then so im stumped
[08:26] <myatthu> RagePrblm, you got to tell us what is the problem with totem first ... then we can tell ya if we know how to fix or not
[08:26] <AbortD> do i need to install SDL before i install guichan?
[08:26] <Byan> Flannel/ Madpilot: thats where I am at..., you sure I don't already have this on here.. I edited my sources file and added some stuff
[08:26] <Flannel> wept: right, the security issues (if it's from the repository) have been rolled in
[08:27] <thenetduck> Flannel: ya i think its using the Grub Boot loader from the Dreamlinux partition
[08:27] <Flannel> Byan: then you might already
[08:27] <Madpilot> Byan, you might, then. Can  you pastebin your sources.list for us to see?
[08:27] <RagePrblm> myatthu: The error I have is that ubuntu says It could not establish a connection to the sound server; "totem could not startup"
[08:27] <Byan> where is it located?
[08:27] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, sound server issues are larger than just Totem
[08:27] <wept> but i mean, there have been security issues since 1.5 ;)  last time it was updated was 2006-02-14
[08:27] <RagePrblm> crap
[08:27] <Flannel> Byan: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:27] <Madpilot> Byan, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:27] <mthe> hmm discovered the most <annoying> .. feature ^  ^
[08:27] <wept> i fear upgrading to dapper due to a bug people have been reporting with ati devices which i have
[08:27] <RagePrblm> Well the window said totem could not startup, then it said it couldnt estab the connection to the soundserver
[08:28] <Flannel> thenetduck: so, how are your HDs set up?
[08:28] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, do other sound-using apps work?
[08:28] <RagePrblm> xfmedia does
[08:29] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, what about RhythmBox?
[08:29] <thenetduck> Flannel: one 40gb hard drive (this has Dreamlinux on it with Grub) and one 160gb hard drive (this has Xubuntu and Ubuntu with grub on it)  both hard drives just have one big partition each
[08:29] <AbortD> do i need to install SDL before i install guichan?
[08:29] <Flannel> thenetduck: so, which is primary master?
[08:30] <RagePrblm> It doesnt seem to play with rhythmbox
[08:30] <thenetduck> Flannel: 40gb is the master 160gb is the slave ... but i didn't feel like moving the pin on my hard drive so i just used 160 as primary
[08:30] <thenetduck> Flannel they are both formated as primary
[08:30] <thenetduck> Flannel ext3 I belive.
[08:31] <Muteki> i can't access my ubuntu box on my win xp pro computer it prompts for a password, and it isn't the admin.root.or my usr-pw either. Can anyone help me? m(_ _)m
[08:31] <thenetduck> Flannel: do you think it would be save to just delete my 40gb hard drive partion and see if it will defalut to the MBR on the 160gb hard drive?
[08:31] <Byan> http://pastebin.com/791043
[08:31] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, crimsun is one of our resident sound debugging gurus, but he's away right now, it looks like...
[08:32] <Flannel> thenetduck: that may work.  you really should move them on the cable ;)
[08:32] <Byan> should I uncomment the two lines that end dapper universe?
[08:32] <Flannel> Muteki: samba? or what?
[08:32] <RagePrblm> Alright, I spose I can come back tomorrow or the like, it would be nice if I could just downgrade the offending driver to the original one that ubuntu installed
[08:32] <thenetduck> Flannel: what difference does it make?
[08:32] <Muteki> flannel: yes i have it on SMB, though i thought you had to have samba running to be able to access it. I can't find it on the computer yet i can mess with smb.conf settings
[08:33] <Flannel> thenetduck: primary is... well, first
[08:33] <Flannel> Byan: yes
[08:33] <RagePrblm> Thanks again Madpilot Ill be sure to bother you again if I need more help :) And I will heheh
[08:33] <Flannel> Muteki: you need to set up users in samba,
[08:33] <Flannel> !tell Muteki about samba
[08:33] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, np, good luck.
[08:33] <RagePrblm> :)
[08:59] (mthe/#ubuntu) cobbweb_:  ha then we both know that Flannel was right, ideally make master have the MBR + bootloader = ;)
[09:00] (mark_/#ubuntu) my computer has been crashing constantly and i've tried: 2 full reinstalls and one harddrive wipe, compiling my own 686-smp kernel,and disabling framebuffer
[09:00] (mark_/#ubuntu) nothing has worked so far
[09:00] (mthe/#ubuntu) does it work with live cd? :o
[09:00] (mark_/#ubuntu) but i ran into someone who suggested it might be a problem with gtk (his has been having the same problem
[09:01] (mark_/#ubuntu) and there was a libgtk update just a few moments ago...
[09:01] <mark_> anyone have any ideas?
[09:02] <Flannel> mark_: does it work without a GUI?
[09:05] <drcode> hi all
[09:05] <drcode> is there pdf with screenshot of ubuntu for beginner like 100 pages?
[09:05] <drcode> I read there is some where?
[09:05] <Flannel> drcode: theres the documentation at help.ubuntu.com
[09:05] <KoolJG> greetings all
[09:06] <KoolJG> new to Ubuntu and just tryin to meet, greet & learn
[09:07] <drcode> thnx
[09:07] <Born_In_Xixax> welcome
[09:08] <KoolJG> thnx
[09:09] <KoolJG> can anyone help me with resetting sounds?
[09:10] <mansu> does anyone know whats happening here? http://paste.lisp.org/display/14127.... the problem and status messages are exactly the same (except the card model and /var/log messages)... my card is a davicom card and it refuses to work with mandriva or ubuntu..
[09:10] <mansu> i thought it was a driver issue... bit it looks like more is happening here
[09:12] <cbx33> hi all, anyone know of a problem with dapper and nvidia PCI-E cards, where ubuntu thinks I have an ATI card ?
[09:12] <inglor> just get the new nvidia driver
[09:12] <cbx33> well....xorg said it was an ATI card straight after installation
[09:13] <inglor> ok, just get the new nvidia drivers
[09:13] <inglor> and while you're at it, please file a bug report
[09:14] <cbx33> inglor: well then I installted the nvidia-glx driver and it barffed
[09:16] <tchung> hi, I am having a problem with Synaptic Package Manager
[09:16] <inglor> techung, what problem
[09:16] <inglor> cbx33, what do you mean barffed?
[09:16] <tchung> the proxy setting is not working
[09:16] <inglor> cbx33, which nvidia card do you have
[09:16] <inglor> tchung, did you try setting the proxy in proxy settings rather than synaptics itself, and did you try using apt-get directly?
[09:16] <tchung> should I put in a www proxy into the field?
[09:16] <cbx33> BFG 7300 GS OC
[09:17] <cbx33> sorry 7300 GT OC
[09:17] <tchung> not apt-get
[09:17] <tchung> I will try
[09:17] <inglor> tchung, so apt-get works but synaptics doesn't?
[09:17] <tchung> hmmm.... I am a newbie
[09:18] <RagePrblm> Can anyone help me figure out how to run a terminal command as a Super-User
[09:18] <tchung> so I don't use apt-get much
[09:18] <kihai> Hi everybody! Does anyone happen to know which keyboard shortcut is used at the greeter window of gdm for switching between languages (here: english-german)?
[09:18] <cobbweb_> how do i chane my eth0 to wlan0 ? where is the list located
[09:19] <inglor> cbx33, they have an oc'ed 7300GT today :O? odd, anyhow try the nvidia drivers again I guess
[09:19] <inglor> tchunt, try apt-get install something
[09:19] <inglor> see if it works
[09:19] <cbx33> inglor ;)
[09:19] <cbx33> it was a fresh install
[09:19] <inglor> chobbweb, try typing it in
[09:19] <cbx33> and a new mobo and proc too ;)
[09:19] <inglor> cbx33, new cards are always problematic
[09:19] <meapers> RagePrblm  -- you could just type "su root" then put in your password, you now have a root terminal
[09:20] <RagePrblm> thanks meapers
[09:20] <inglor> meapers, or just type su, it's root by default
[09:20] <cbx33> inglor - yeh unfortunately
[09:20] <tchung> inglor, it seems to me that I can get in touch with the server but it won't let me download anything
[09:20] <RagePrblm> anyone know the default root password for ubuntu
[09:20] <inglor> cbx33, it's why I'm holding out on my newer box, write a letter to the developer team
[09:20] <cobbweb_> Flannel: do you know where the list that names my networking divices is located?
[09:20] <inglor> tchung, did you update your repos?
[09:21] <inglor> since you installed linux?
[09:21] <meapers> inglor thanks!
[09:21] <inglor> cobbweb_, pop a terminal and write ifconfig
[09:21] <tchung> inglor, I think my repos address are up-to-date
[09:21] <inglor> tchung, go to the terminal
[09:21] <cobbweb_> inglor: ok
[09:22] <subpar> are there issues running wine/cedega in amd64? or should I be able to just grab wine/cedega off the repositories
[09:22] <inglor> type "apt-get install frozen-bubble" does it let you?
[09:22] <inglor> subpar, as far as I know you're good to go
[09:22] <inglor> my friend got it working, not sure if out of the box
[09:22] <inglor> I got to go, I bought a new game I want to play, company of heroes
[09:22] <inglor> bye
[09:22] <subpar> inglor: did he have any problems with 32 bit progs?
[09:22] <subpar> lates, thanks for the insight
[09:23] <inglor> subpar, not as I know
[09:23] <cobbweb_> inglor i want to edit the name of my card
[09:23] <RagePrblm> Does anyone know the default password for root in Ubuntu? Im pretty sure I didnt set one
[09:25] <bucky> prolly the same passwd as for the user
[09:25] <RagePrblm> its not :(
[09:26] <bucky> RagePrblm, are you using it with sudo?
[09:26] <bucky> their is basically no root account
[09:26] <RagePrblm> bucky I dont know :| Im just trying to install ati video drivers and it says I need a super user account
[09:26] <RagePrblm> to install em
[09:26] <bucky> use sudo
[09:27] <SatanGolga> use sudo bash
[09:27] <RagePrblm> how do I do it, I just typed sh ati-drivers.blah blah blah
[09:27] <bucky> sudo sh ati-drivers.blah
[09:28] <RagePrblm> oh
[09:28] <RagePrblm> thanks
[09:28] <bucky> Password: youruserspasswd
[09:28] <MM2> I have troubles with timezone. How I can reconfigure it?
[09:29] <RagePrblm> oh mint, thanks bucky, SatanGolga
[09:30] <bucky> MM2, prolly tzconfig
[09:30] <Messi> Hii
[09:31] <cobbweb_> hey does anyone know how to edit the name of a wireless card... it shows up as being eth2 but it should be wlan0
[09:31] <crazy_penguin> Good day all!:)
[09:31] <rem__> Hey I have a question .. when i try to install ubuntu with the "install" icon the window that then opens is too big (I cant go to the "next" button"), it is cze the screen resolution is set to 640x480. I cant change this in X, and in xorg it lists the others 800 and 1024. The graph card and monitor support at least 1024 .. What can I do ??
[09:32] <anmar> Hello guys. is there is a channel for the Ubuntu Live CDs ?
[09:32] <MM2> bucky: ty, it was it
[09:32] <anmar> I wish to use Ubuntu Live CD as the basis of a new project ?
[09:33] <rem__> anyone ?
[09:33] <Deus> lut
[09:33] <Deus> enfin re !
[09:33] <cobbweb_> rem__ try installing it in graphical safe mode
[09:33] <Deus> ...
[09:33] <MikeHawk> hello.  Has anyone upgraded Firefox from 1.0.8?
[09:34] <boink> that's an old version
[09:34] <rem__> wont I have the same prob, since the resolution will be 640 ... and the windows too big again ... ? (btw i cant resize the window to make it small enough either..)
[09:34] <MikeHawk> yes, it's quite old
[09:34] <boink> which ubuntu distro are you using?
[09:34] <MikeHawk> 5.10?
[09:34] <rem__> must be 5.04
[09:34] <MikeHawk> or 5.04
[09:35] <boink> you might want to consider updating to dapper
[09:35] <MikeHawk> one or the other
[09:35] <cobbweb_> rem__ ya you most likely wil... um download the alternant cd from the website and install that one, its all text based
[09:35] <boink> otherwise, you can get the tar ball from the firefox website and use that
[09:35] <rem__> k...well thanx for the answer...its more than what i usually get in here... :P
[09:35] <MikeHawk> I was hoping to use this as an exercise to figure out how to install and upgrade applications
[09:35] <boink> compiling yourself?
[09:35] <boink> or using apt-get
[09:36] <MikeHawk> nope, just download from the mozilla site
[09:36] <MikeHawk> does apt-get work for firefox?
[09:36] <boink> sure
[09:36] <boink> you can update your box as a whole too
[09:36] <MikeHawk> I would consider upgrading to swiftfox if anyone knows how to do that as well
[09:36] <boink> apt-get is a very handy feature
[09:36] <cobbweb_> MikeHawk opera is an awesome browser you should look into it
[09:36] <boink> !easysource
[09:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:37] <MikeHawk> cobbweb, thanks for the suggestion.  I will tackle that on another night
[09:37] <boink> !apt-get
[09:37] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:37] <MikeHawk> what would the apt-get command be for firefox?
[09:37] <boink> apt-get install firefox to install it
[09:37] <boink> but you have it already installed, maybe
[09:37] <MikeHawk> would that upgrade it?
[09:38] <boink> hmm, depends on what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:38] <Arcad3> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:38] <MikeHawk> I tried going through synaptic, but it did not detect any upgrades available for firefox
[09:38] <boink> then you may need to upgrade to dapper
[09:38] <boink> you can do that through apt-get too
[09:39] <surface> MikeHawk:  it suppose to be upgraded if available by clicking the update at gnome
[09:39] <MikeHawk> surface.. thanks, I did grab that file
[09:39] <surface> MikeHawk:  then it is not yet
[09:39] <boink> with apt-get it should be fairly easy to upgrade to the latest release
[09:39] <boink> but murphy's law ..
[09:40] <MikeHawk> I grabbed the installation file from the mozilla website, and unzipped to the tmp directory
[09:40] <upshs01> can i connect to your website
[09:40] <MikeHawk> now I'm not sure what to do
[09:40] <boink> sure, that will work fine too
[09:40] <surface> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[09:40] <upshs01> anybody could help me
[09:40] <boink> sure, just ask
[09:40] <AbortD> how do  i package a file after i make it?
[09:41] <AbortD> from source
[09:41] <boink> !dpkg
[09:41] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[09:41] <AbortD> huh?
[09:41] <MikeHawk> ok, so I tried sudo apt-get upgrade firefox, and I got the error:
[09:41] <upshs01> im using a different os linux i find it hard to manipulate
[09:41] <MikeHawk> Reading package lists... Done
[09:41] <MikeHawk> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:41] <MikeHawk> The following packages have been kept back:
[09:41] <MikeHawk>   hal hal-device-manager libhal-storage1 libhal1 pmount
[09:41] <MikeHawk> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[09:41] <boink> well, this is #ubuntu :P
[09:42] <boink> so, Mike .. you can't upgrade firefox anymore on your current setup
[09:42] <AbortD> boink how do i do it?
[09:42] <boink> the latest ubuntu is called dapper
[09:42] <MikeHawk> why not?
[09:42] <boink> that's 6.06
[09:42] <boink> because all of the round 10000 packages are a part of each ubuntu distro
[09:43] <MikeHawk> hmm
[09:43] <boink> the latest firefox, as an ubuntu .deb, is available on dapper
[09:43] <MikeHawk> so firefox is expecting some libraries that are only available on the latest release?
[09:43] <upshs01> does anybody have a latest program of linux
[09:43] <boink> maybe not, if you use the tar ball from mozilla.org
[09:43] <lastnode> upshs01, er what do you mean?
[09:43] <lastnode> boink, im sure someone has 1.5 for breezy as well. a deb i mean.
[09:44] <boink> if you don't want to upgrade your ubuntu distro.
[09:44] <upshs01> i cant use our linux its not friendly user
[09:44] <surface> i am using fc5 now, my firefox is <IP_ADDRESS> so ubuntu should be around 1.5.0.x too
[09:44] <peija-kas> boink - is the <IP_ADDRESS> firefox out as Deb??
[09:44] <lastnode> sorry MikeHawk, that was for you - but i recoommend you update to dapper
[09:44] <surface> upshs01:  what do u mean?
[09:44] <boink> dunno ... I don't know what's the firefox version on dapper
[09:44] <lastnode> upshs01, well we generally take discussions like that in to #ubuntu-offtopic (too general for this support channel)
[09:44] <MikeHawk> so I expanded the tarball to tmp
[09:44] <luk> Someone knows the .pdg format ? What soft can read that ?
[09:44] <upshs01> what channel
[09:45] <boink> #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:45] <lastnode> upshs01, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:45] <upshs01> okey got you
[09:45] <AbortD> boink, i got dpkg and dpkg-dev how do i use it?
[09:45] <upshs01> any tutorial
[09:45] <MikeHawk> so I expanded the firefox tarball to the tmp directory.  I see a "firefox-bin",  "updater", and "xpicleanup"  do I run the updater?
[09:46] <surface> upshs01:  linux command example www.linuxbyexample.co.nr
[09:46] <upshs01> thanx boink i hope i can do it alone, im not familiar with this program
[09:46] <boink> AbortD: it's complicated, you would need to read the docs on the debian page
[09:47] <boink> man dpkg is a good start to make a .deb, if that's what you want
[09:47] <peija-kas> upshs01 i can send u a beginners linux book if u want to
[09:47] <peija-kas> private msg me
[09:47] <lastnode> upshs01, if you tell me exactly what is wrong, we can try and help
[09:47] <upshs01> in my email add?
[09:47] <boink> upshs01: what's your native language?
[09:47] <lastnode> upshs01, as in, what your machine is, what distro you're trying to install etc
[09:48] <boink> there are language specific ubuntu help channels too
[09:48] <boink> !pl
[09:48] <upshs01> tagalog
[09:48] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:48] <boink> aaah, ok
[09:48] <AbortD> boink i want something easy
[09:48] <boink> !ph
[09:48] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[09:48] <boink> easy? well ...
[09:48] <AbortD> whats checkinstall?
[09:48] <Healot> !info checkinstall
[09:48] <ubotu> checkinstall: installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 132 kB
[09:49] <peija-kas> upshs01 do you get my private messages?
[09:49] <clintonc> is anyone else having any trouble with the libglib2.0-0 package?
[09:49] <upshs01> peija-kas pls send me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>thanx a lot
[09:50] <peija-kas> i will
[09:50] <mixelogj> Hello. has anyone successfully compiled kernel 2.6.28 with the queuefreeze patch on a Thinkpad (T43)? The problem I am having is that modules sd_mod and sg are not found, as mkinitrd says
[09:50] <peija-kas> just a few minutes
[09:50] <upshs01> thanx again,
[09:50] <Healot> 2.6.28?
[09:50] <lastnode> mixelogj, are you supposed to compile those modules from source? are you following a howto?
[09:50] <holycow> does anyone know if the vnc viewer started via terminal server client is encrypted?  i'm thinking no ... port forwarding over ssh might do it?
[09:50] <MikeHawk> so I tried to run the Firefox updater from the tarball and it is giving me the following message:
[09:50] <MikeHawk> Usage: updater <dir-path> <parent-pid> [working-dir callback args...]
[09:50] <MikeHawk>   does anyone know what values I should be giving it?
[09:51] <upshs01> anybody from UP Manila BuddyWorks Team
[09:51] <mixelogj> yup I am following a how to found in ubuntuforums. There is no mention for these modules though, and they are not put in apparently. And yes sorry i Meant <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:51] <mixelogj> I am using the running kernell's config
[09:52] <upshs01> is tina (UPM Telehealth Center) around
[09:52] <clintonc> So, I have a question:  Say that apt wants to install a package, but I already have one of the dependencies.  How do I convince apt to not install the dependency?
[09:53] <lastnode> clintonc, it wont, if you have it.
[09:53] <lastnode> clintonc, unless it's a new version of the file.
[09:53] <llama32> what's a window manager providing things like taskbar, app menu [either automagic like the gnome/kde ones or GUI editable]  and system tray other than XFCE/Gnome/KDE?
[09:53] <lastnode> mixelogj, you're using old config?
[09:53] <clintonc> lastnode:  Say I have it, but not through apt.
[09:53] <clintonc> configured just how I like it
[09:54] <mixelogj> I copied .config from 2.6.15 and modified it in some stuff, as well as answered all the questions it asks during kernel compile because of config files mismatch. I enabled scsi in there
[09:55] <lastnode> clintonc, hmmm, that's a good question. im sorry, i cant be of much help there. i nearly said 'ask portage not to get it' before i realized this isnt #gentoo. :\ im sorry, never had to do that on a deb based distro, mate.
[09:57] <clintonc> lastnode: I saw somewhere on the internets that one way is to download the .deb, unpack it, edit the configuration file, and repack and install it, but that doesn't seem like the ideal solution.  :P
[09:57] <mixelogj> perhaps the problem is the same for compiling any kernel in a SATA hdd.
[09:57] <clintonc> I'd rather have a nice option to rely upon.
[09:57] <lastnode> clintonc, how this is nto a deb? you compiled it?
[09:57] <clintonc> Ok, here's the real issue.
[09:57] <lastnode> hmmm, id advise you to make the revised deb, and even release it.
[09:58] <clintonc> There is a small dependency difference between a package I have installed and a package which is listed as a dependency for another package.
[09:58] <drcode> is there option to make ubuntu live cd with base disk
[09:58] <drcode> like 100 mb
[09:58] <drcode> and put the packge I want?
[09:58] <clintonc> something seems to be screwy with the repository, as when I try to reinstall that package I get an error that I can't even download it
[09:59] <clintonc> I'll be filing a bug report, but I don't want to have to wait for that to get my packages installed  :)
[10:00] <drcode> where can I find info on making livecd ubuntu from base?
[10:04] <clintonc> Where does apt place a .deb which was fetched with the 'download only' option?
[10:04] <amarokker> its the same place. no?
[10:05] <amarokker>  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:05] <discord_> clintonc: how do you use the download only option is it apt-get -d packname?
[10:05] <clintonc> ah, thanks  :)
[10:05] <clintonc> yeah
[10:05] <subpar> can anyone help with some winecfg problems?
[10:10] <clintonc> Somehow, I managed an unsatisfied dependency for downloading a package.
[10:10] <clintonc> I baffle myself sometimes.
[10:12] <Davo_Dinkum> With this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu, how can I remove the Gnome part of ubuntu?
[10:12] <Davo_Dinkum> Will it be exactly the same as installing Xubuntu from the Xubuntu CD?
[10:13] <skpl> can someone please help me? i am having trouble connecting to the internet in ubuntu
[10:13] <peija-kas> upshs01 hey man are u still here :)
[10:13] <Davo_Dinkum> Broadband or dial up?
[10:13] <skpl> broadband
[10:13] <peija-kas> can i direct send u the other book here in irc..
[10:13] <peija-kas> its maybe too big to fit in mailbox..18 megs
[10:14] <Davo_Dinkum> What exactly doesn't work?
[10:14] <upshs01> yeah im waitin, im just okay,
[10:14] <peija-kas> ill send it to ya
[10:14] <skpl> when trying to use my web browser to search google i got the following error " unable to connect to server"
[10:15] <peija-kas> ill send the smaller one thru email
[10:15] <lastnode> skpl, are you connected to a network? can you ping your router?
[10:15] <Davo_Dinkum> Did you try to access any other websites?
[10:15] <surface> skp1, first check ifconfig
[10:15] <upshs01> peija-kas thanx
[10:15] <Davo_Dinkum> Give us details, skpl
[10:15] <M_Fatih> hi all
[10:15] <surface> skpl:  it might be ur dns
[10:16] <skpl> i do not know how to ping my router
[10:16] <peija-kas> hmm its not starting
[10:16] <peija-kas> are dccs also forbidden here?
[10:16] <skpl> surface: what should ifcongfig tell me?
[10:16] <Davo_Dinkum> What make and model is the router?
[10:16] <surface> skpl:  ifconfig and check ur gateway
[10:16] <skpl> check for what?
[10:16] <upshs01> peija - just give an idea where to look for linux manual or instructional materials
[10:17] <surface> skpl:  ifconfig tells u a lots, hwaddress, ip, gateway ip too
[10:17] <skpl> what should i do with that information?
[10:17] <upshs01> i cant use my linux
[10:17] <upshs01> im new to this os
[10:17] <surface> skpl:  if u can ip, and gateway, try ping that gateway ip
[10:17] <M_Fatih> problem : i'm working with xgl good & efeective. But when i'm using compiz, XGL crashes random point, (example: i'm opening my xgl/compiz desktop and going to eat something, when i come back my gdm login screen waiting to me :( xgl crashed & restarted) i can't see error logging files or error :( how can i fix this or debug this?
[10:17] <upshs01> sorry to disturb you peija
[10:18] <peija-kas> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page  Ubuntu Documentation Project
[10:18] <skpl> surface: what should i do if it does not respond? i am having to log back into windows to get help with this, so i would like to cover all my bases
[10:18] <surface> skpl:  if u can ping, then u need to check ur dns. and change /etc/resolv.conf to point to ur dns. are u using ubuntu by now?
[10:18] <peija-kas> upshs01 np ... ill try to mail that book yet, its very good for beginners
[10:18] <Davo_Dinkum> M_Faith: try #ubuntu-xgl
[10:18] <skpl> surface: i have used ubuntu before but i am installing it now on a friend's computer.
[10:18] <M_Fatih> ok
[10:19] <surface> skpl:  emmm.... so ur fren comp besides ur com now?
[10:19] <skpl> surface: how do i check my dns?
[10:19] <upshs01> can i ask peija - from where r u? r u connected with the people in our main office UP Manila?
[10:19] <skpl> surface: no, i am at her house installing it on her computer, mine is at home
[10:20] <peija-kas> no im in Finland :)
[10:20] <peija-kas> i sent u a Ubuntu book in your email
[10:20] <skpl> surface; how do i find out what her dns address is?
[10:20] <peija-kas> the other book is too big to send thru my mail account
[10:20] <surface> skpl:  emm... u need to check the router... where are u from , i mean country.
[10:20] <skpl> surface: united states, why?
[10:20] <upshs01> thats okey whatever is available
[10:21] <surface> skpl:  wat isp are u using, ask around here and see whether any one knows
[10:21] <botxj> is it me or did daylight savings time just hit?
[10:21] <upshs01> hi jane
[10:21] <skpl> surface: you said i should make sure /etc/resolve.conf matches my dns address, how do i do that?
[10:22] <jane> er, hi?
[10:22] <Healot> man resolv.conf
[10:22] <skpl> i guess i will go try that now
[10:22] <upshs01> i try to figure out whats in linux
[10:22] <surface> skpl: <IP_ADDRESS> < --- this is yahoo ip, if u login to ubuntu and able to ping this. that means u need to change ur /etc/resolve.conf to point to ur dns
[10:22] <Healot> skpl: basically, add the line "nameserver dnsserver"; replace dnsserver with a quad IP address
[10:23] <surface> Healot:  u are late, he is gone
[10:23] <botxj> the clocks on my digital cable box, cellphones, and my computers have shifted an hour ahead, compared to the time on my alarm clock
[10:23] <upshs01> jane can i have email add
[10:23] <Davo_Dinkum> Your alarm clock must have a virus!
[10:24] <jane> er?
[10:24] <jane> do i know you?
[10:24] <xinted> haha
[10:24] <botxj> or DST is over
[10:24] <upshs01> im new with this program
[10:25] <peija-kas> upshs01 i try to send u the other book too
[10:25] <jane> great, but that doesn't mean i'm gonna give you my email address..
[10:25] <peija-kas> i zipped it so it would fit in my mail upload :)
[10:25] <upshs01> ok thanx again, peija
[10:25] <peija-kas> the first one should be there already
[10:26] <peija-kas> no problem, glad if it helps..
[10:26] <upshs01> hoping your a big help in my new linux series
[10:27] <upshs01> jane no you dont know me, thats why i wantd to know you
[10:27] <jane> well sorry, i don't give out my email address to people i don't really know :)
[10:27] <peija-kas> disposable email addresses = good :)
[10:27] <jane> disposable email addresses == annoying
[10:27] <jane> :)
[10:27] <peija-kas> hehe
[10:28] <upshs01> let me introduce first if you dont mind jane?
[10:29] <jane> am i the completely random 1 out of 863 people that you decided to ask? ;)
[10:29] <ssinghi> what is the command name for terminal to run it from "Run application" dialog?
[10:30] <upshs01> well thats okey out of 863 people that i ask you're the no 1
[10:30] <jane> well then maybe you can find someone else who can help ya :)
[10:31] <upshs01> no,no,no, jane pls. i just wanted to have friends
[10:32] <ssinghi> upshs01, this is a tech forum, try some other IRC server
[10:33] <mabus> ssinghi: gnome-term you mean?
[10:34] <ssinghi> mabus, yes, thanks, i was trying term, konsole etc. but they weren't working
[10:34] <AbortD> how do i remove a icon from Applications>Games
[10:34] <AbortD> ?
[10:36] <peija-kas> AbortD use the Alacarte Menu editor in Accessories
[10:37] <AbortD> its not working
[10:38] <AbortD> i click to invisible it
[10:38] <AbortD> and i still see it
[10:39] <Sarah07> :)
[10:40] <Sarah07> Hullo, I am Sarah
[10:40] <Sarah07> I'm looking for friends!
[10:40] <peija-kas> upshs01 one more try using Gmail :) the book is 8.8 megs zipped so my mails keep telling me they dont want that big attachments ;)
[10:40] <jane> he/she's gone :(
[10:40] <Sarah07> loldamnit
[10:41] <Sarah07> jane, Will you be my friend?
[10:42] <kraut> hi
[10:42] <Sarah07> hullo!
[10:42] <kraut> is it easily possible to switch a running debian-system remote to ubuntu?
[10:42] <surface> hi'
[10:42] <surface> what do u mean debian-system remote?
[10:42] <mrbrdo> recently, my sound card stopped working.. i think it was after i made a .asoundrc (didn't exist before) in my homedir, tried some settings and then deleted it. dmesg doesn't seem to show anything about my sound card now, and it also does not work on a different kernel.. it works on a livecd. i don't know what to do
[10:42] <kraut> i have a running debian-server and like to want  to switch it to ubuntu.
[10:42] <peija-kas> kraut - i dont think so
[10:42] <Overand> and it's "remote" - as in, he has no physical access to it
[10:43] <peija-kas> so many packages aredifferent
[10:43] <Overand> kraut: you *can* - but it's dodgy
[10:43] <Overand>  =]
[10:43] <peija-kas> not easily at least
[10:43] <surface> kraut:  different
[10:43] <surface> kraut:  upgrade will screwup ur debian.
[10:43] <peija-kas> most probably
[10:44] <Overand> an interesting idea would be to use gnuparted
[10:44] <Uberpussy> lmfao, great stalking there
[10:44] <Overand> and install a seperate ubuntu installation alongside it
[10:44] <mrbrdo> can anyone please help me with my sound problem?
[10:45] <Edulix> hi  !
[10:45] <surface> Overand:  good idea.
[10:45] <Edulix> oks I'm here: http://www.getdemocracy.com/downloads/ubuntu.php
[10:45] <Edulix> where is the link to ubuntu's download? not there..
[10:45] <nopx90> hi... something really strange just happened... i think i may have been hacked.. is there a new vulnerability in dapper that i'm not aware of?
[10:46] <surface> nopx90:  what happen?
[10:47] <nopx90> surface, i have a shared fat32 drive... this usually appears on the desktop as sda4... it's been this way ever since i installed ubuntu...
[10:47] <peija-kas> nopx90 what services do u have open? SMB, SSH?
[10:47] <peija-kas> so u have samba open to the internet by any chance?
[10:47] <nopx90> and now the drive appears on my desktop named as "ok_w7@hotma"
[10:47] <peija-kas> someone can easily access samba if its not firewalled or otherwise secured
[10:47] <nopx90> i mean what the hell... this has to be somebody doing it right? there's no way it would happen by accident
[10:48] <kraut> Overand: that soundy crappy
[10:48] <nopx90> i have iptables rules blocking every port except for packets that are established or related
[10:48] <peija-kas> nopx90 do "sudo apt-get install chkrootkit"
[10:48] <peija-kas> and "sudo apt-get install rkhunter"
[10:48] <peija-kas> then run them with sudo
[10:48] <peija-kas> "sudo chkrootkit"
[10:48] <peija-kas> and "sudo rkhunter -c"
[10:48] <peija-kas> if they find anything...tell us
[10:49] <nopx90> ok sure
[10:49] <nopx90> i'm upgrading my packages atm just incase there is some vulnerability... but the minute that's finished i'll do it
[10:49] <somazero> Greetings!  What's the recommended em64t kernel?  amd64 generic or the xeon?
[10:49] <peija-kas> nopx90 if u been hacked already, upgradings no help
[10:49] <nopx90> i'm considering dropping an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and asking who it is
[10:50] <jme> somazero: what?
[10:50] <peija-kas> those 2 prgs search for signs of rootkits etc nastiness
[10:50] <jme> there's no xeon kernel
[10:50] <peija-kas> which a hacker would install
[10:50] <Healot> somazero: zeron
[10:50] <jme> just use x86, somazero
[10:50] <Healot> zeon
[10:50] <Healot> xeon, damn
[10:50] <somazero> jme: There's an amd64-xeon image available
[10:50] <botxj> what is the command for creating symbolic links in ubuntu?
[10:51] <lastnode> botxj, ln
[10:51] <jme> oh
[10:51] <lastnode> botxj, man ln
[10:51] <peija-kas> botxj hold shift+ctrl when dragging files to make links
[10:51] <peija-kas> or ln
[10:51] <peija-kas> command
[10:51] <somazero> Healot: Now, does that have just the xeon stuff or does that have the em64t goodies enabled?
[10:51] <jme> well, you still want x86, somazero
[10:51] <botxj> lastnode: but that command creates HARD links
[10:51] <jme> there's really no gain from 64-bit, and it's a lot of trouble at this point
[10:51] <Healot> ln -s <<
[10:51] <somazero> jme: Why would I want that when I could have amd64?!...;)
[10:51] <peija-kas> yes Healot ln -s ;)
[10:51] <lastnode> -s is the flag for soft
[10:51] <peija-kas> yupp forgot
[10:51] <botxj> aight
[10:51] <jme> because stuff not compiled for 64-bit won't work
[10:51] <Healot> -s is sexy :)
[10:52] <jme> not easily at least
[10:52] <Psychobudgie> jme,  not the case
[10:52] <jme> again, there's no gain
[10:52] <Healot> jme: don't speak in general terms, be specific
[10:52] <Psychobudgie> majority of stuff runs within the linux32 wrapper
[10:52] <jme> unless you need more than 4 gigs of memory or something
[10:52] <somazero> jme: I've heard there's a gain using things such as blender, etc...
[10:52] <jme> really no point
[10:52] <upshs01> peija ive got the books thanks i have to go now bye
[10:52] <peija-kas> well 64bit is no use for a home user yet
[10:52] <somazero> jme: But, under normal use, I think you're right
[10:52] <peija-kas> ok good upshs01
[10:52] <peija-kas> :)
[10:52] <Psychobudgie> I've used 64bit distros for around a year
[10:53] <jme> yeah, the benchmark improvements are pretty marginal
[10:53] <peija-kas> 64 bit gives advantages maybe in heavy server use
[10:53] <peija-kas> in home use...no bonus yet
[10:53] <deddly> whats the latest on flash player 9? do you have to use wine?
[10:53] <Psychobudgie> response time on the desktop is quicker, noticably so
[10:53] <somazero> jme: And, as long as you have the compat libs installed - why *not* use an operating system that takes advantage of your arch?...;)
[10:53] <ikonia> Psychobudgie that shouldn't be the case
[10:53] <Psychobudgie> well it is
[10:53] <jme> Psychobudgie: sorry, but there's no way that's not conflated with other variables
[10:53] <NET||abuse> hi guys, i'm having a problem with my application database, i right click ona file and want to topen with a program, say gedit, so i go down the list to open with, then select Text Editor, but it says Could not add application to the application database
[10:53] <somazero> jme: Besides, isn't it just java and OO.org that doesn't compile properly?
[10:54] <somazero> jme: not working, anywho...
[10:54] <NET||abuse> it does the same with xine or anything really
[10:54] <jme> a lot of binary-only software (like Flash) doesn't run 64-bit native
[10:54] <jme> you can use the wrapper of course
[10:54] <Psychobudgie> runs as a 32bit application
[10:54] <deddly> is flash 9 only on wine?
[10:54] <jme> yeah, deddly
[10:54] <deddly> thanks mate
[10:55] <somazero> jme: Right, just use the compat libs - Not that big of a deal - for me anyhow.  I wouldn't run 32bit just for flash...;)
[10:55] <Psychobudgie> haven't come across any app I need that won't work in x64
[10:55] <jme> well, you're not running 64bit for much of anything, unless you have software that was specifically designed for 64-bit
[10:56] <ikonia> Psychobudgie vmware, flash, certain video codeds, thats an easy starter
[10:57] <Psychobudgie> flash runs as a 32bit app, all the codecs run as 32bit apps
[10:57] <ikonia> but thats in a 32bit chroot
[10:57] <Psychobudgie> vmware can be made to work, but I don't need it
[10:57] <Psychobudgie> ikonia,  no it's not
[10:57] <somazero> jme: True, but with that reasoning - no one will use/support 64 bit systems...
[10:57] <Psychobudgie> ikonia,  compile mplayer as a 32bit app and run within linux32
[10:57] <Psychobudgie> bobs your uncle
[10:58] <jme> somazero: sure they will
[10:58] <ikonia> but thats not running it 32bit
[10:58] <ikonia> 64bit sorry
[10:58] <Psychobudgie> that includes the plugin
[10:58] <jme> most processors sold these days support 64-bit
[10:58] <Psychobudgie> it runs, whether it's within a wrapper or not is inconsequential
[10:58] <jme> eventually it will make sense to program with them in mind, but it just doesn't yet for many apps
[10:58] <Psychobudgie> plugins don't need to be running in 64bit native
[10:59] <Psychobudgie> no gain
[10:59] <ikonia> I don't want to get into this argument
[10:59] <somazero> jme: I guess my thought process is, why not use an OS that supports 64 and use the compat libs if you need something that isn't 64 able...
[10:59] <Psychobudgie> the codecs are all windows 32bit
[10:59] <jme> because a feature that provides no benefit isn't really worth using
[10:59] <jme> you're not missing out by staying 32-bit
[11:00] <Psychobudgie> the underlying os and x server is 64 bit
[11:00] <somazero> jme: until you *do* need 32bit and you have to reinstall...;)
[11:00] <Psychobudgie> as are the majority of applications
[11:00] <somazero> jme: 64bit, rather
[11:00] <jme> really?
[11:00] <jme> when will I need 64-bit?
[11:00] <peija-kas> not anytime soon
[11:01] <ikonia> NET||abuse as a side issue, I remove Xgl and AIglx from my laptop - and went back to just using a standard xorg server setup. However scince I've dropped back to my standard xorg server my intel 915 chip runs with DRI disabled
[11:01] <somazero> jme: heh - For all I know, never...But, I'm sure you see my point - as I see yours...
[11:01] <Psychobudgie> I use 64bit because I can and for me it is more responsive than the 32 bit vanilla ubuntu, especially when I have a lot going on at the same time
[11:02] <Cyball> hi @all does anybody know what it could be if i get no DHCPOFFERS with WLAN RT2500 ???
[11:02] <ikonia> after out discussion on DRI I thought oyu may be interested
[11:03] <jme> Cyball: it means no router is offering you service
[11:03] <jme> check that your connection settings are correct
[11:03] <CromagDK> how is it i can see if i have Nvidia drivers installed ?
[11:03] <NET||abuse> ikonia, really, bummer :(
[11:03] <jme> !nvidia > CromagDK
[11:04] <ikonia> yeah, what a total pain. I've gone back to standard xorg and now the performance of my 915 sucks
[11:04] <NET||abuse> ikonia, ye, probably some sort of driver or library cross over with Xgl and xorg
[11:04] <ikonia> I only noticed it when my matrix 3d scren saver kicked in
[11:04] <NET||abuse> hah, doh
[11:05] <jme> I have the ultimate poorly-supported video card - a Radeon Mobility 7500
[11:05] <jme> only the (bad) open-source drivers work on it
[11:06] <GusWrk> hi guys.  is there a way to make the live cd install via text mode?  I've got an old system that I need to install on, it won't run the live CD and it won't boot off CDs that I've burnt myself. :-(
[11:06] <GusWrk> so I can't use the altenative cd.
[11:06] <peija-kas> GusWrk - download the Alternate Instal cd
[11:06] <NET||abuse> jme, same as my card
[11:06] <NET||abuse> what laptop are you on? compaq N610c
[11:06] <NET||abuse> ?
[11:07] <peija-kas> oh u cant burn em yourself..
[11:07] <Healot> get xubuntu alternate install CD :0
[11:07] <GusWrk> peija-kas: I have, but I have to burn that myself.  this sytem seems to only boot 'proper' cds, not cdrs
[11:07] <peija-kas> then u gotta burn it somewhere else
[11:07] <jme> NET||abuse: N620c
[11:07] <jme> nice laptop, but not full support
[11:07] <NET||abuse> ooh, swine.. one up hah
[11:07] <peija-kas> livecd no longer has text mode imho
[11:07] <NET||abuse> well, what are you trying to run on it?
[11:07] <jme> on the plus side, it was nice and cheap
[11:07] <peija-kas> only the Alternate...i use Alternate too
[11:07] <GusWrk> stupid old hp netserver
[11:08] <boink> does the alternative cd have a text-mode installer?
[11:08] <NET||abuse> jme, is this an Xgl thing you're trying to run?
[11:08] <jme> I mainly stare at xterms, so the video isn't really important
[11:08] <peija-kas> the Alternate cd is text only
[11:08] <peija-kas> like the old installer
[11:08] <GusWrk> peija-kas: yeah I'm pretty sure live cd has no text mode, I just wanted to check.
[11:08] <jme> I'm not doing anything like that, but even in screensavers the performace is abysmal
[11:08] <NET||abuse> jme, i've had DRI running on this machine in normal xorg no problm
[11:08] <NET||abuse> oh, screensaver performance hah
[11:08] <NET||abuse> fair nuff
[11:09] <jme> NET||abuse: really?
[11:09] <NET||abuse> I actually have Xgl compiz running on this bad boy nicely
[11:09] <jme> what driver are you using, "radeon"?
[11:09] <jme> maybe you could send me your xorg.conf...
[11:09] <NET||abuse> radeon yeh, although i have it working with "ati" also
[11:09] <NET||abuse> with absolutely no xorg.conf changes
[11:09] <NET||abuse> yeh, one sec, i'll pastebin it
[11:10] <jme> thanks
[11:10] <jme> are you using Compaq's built-in wireless?
[11:11] <NET||abuse> compaq built in wireless???
[11:11] <NET||abuse> ummm no,, i have a bufalo card, bcm43xx chipset
[11:11] <jme> the one built into the lid -- optional on this model
[11:11] <NET||abuse> ahhhh, that ,,, no
[11:11] <jme> you can screw off part of the cover on the lid and install the wireless module
[11:11] <jme> gimmicky
[11:11] <NET||abuse> yeh, i remember
[11:12] <NET||abuse> it was only bluetooth available for that when i first got this thing
[11:12] <jme> brb
[11:13] <NET||abuse> jme: http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=8570
[11:13] <nopx90> peija-kas, i ran the programs, rkhunter said "Warning" when "Scanning for hidden files"
[11:13] <botxj> i seem to be missing the files gl.h and glx.h
[11:13] <peija-kas> nopx90 was that the only warning
[11:13] <botxj> when i try and compile glitz for xgl
[11:13] <nopx90> peija-kas, as far as i can tell, yes
[11:14] <peija-kas> and what folders did it arn of..there are usually a few hidden folders/files in the system, that are supposed to be there
[11:14] <jme> thanks, NET
[11:14] <jme> erm, NET||abuse
[11:15] <nopx90> peija-kas, it doesnt say
[11:15] <peija-kas> nopx90 it doesnt say "please check these folders: ...."
[11:15] <peija-kas> ?
[11:15] <nopx90> it just said "*Filesystem checks, Checking /dev for suspicious files... [OK] , Scanning for hidden files... [Warning!]
[11:15] <nopx90> that's all
[11:16] <peija-kas> ill see what mine says
[11:16] <peija-kas> but if it didnt find anything else, i dont think youre compromised..how are you sharing the shared FAT drive? thru Samba?
[11:16] <nopx90> not at all
[11:16] <nopx90> it's shared between linux and windows on this laptop
[11:16] <nopx90> not over a network
[11:17] <ikonia> time to reboot
[11:17] <nopx90> unless i got compromised while running windows....
[11:17] <peija-kas> nopx90 then i dont think theres a problem..do u use a firewall?
[11:18] <nopx90> on windows i dont have anything as good as iptables... just zone alarm
[11:18] <jme> oh, you've got the small screen NET||abuse
[11:18] <peija-kas> well if u have no services like smb open at all..and u have iptables in use..i dont think theres a easy eay in then
[11:18] <jme> it's funny -- your config is otherwise very similar to mine
[11:18] <jme> but I start a 3D game and it's like .5 FPS
[11:19] <nopx90> peija-kas, ok well then any ideas how i can get it back to sda4? i checked fstab and that's fine, and the drive is still being mounted in /dev/sda4... just the icon has an alias of "ok_w7..."
[11:19] <KenSentMe> Is the problem with flashplugin-nonfree from backports already fixed?
[11:19] <peija-kas> i dont know
[11:19] <nopx90> KenSentMe, i'm having that problem right now
[11:20] <jme> according to the forums, it was fixed after only a couple hours
[11:20] <peija-kas> just downgrade to prev version of flash
[11:20] <jme> try reloading and updating
[11:20] <peija-kas> oh its fixed..
[11:20] <nopx90> it doesnt seem to be fixed for me
[11:21] <nopx90> i get the error "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:21] <peija-kas> then downgrade to previous version
[11:21] <nopx90> how do i do that?
[11:21] <GusWrk> peija-kas: thanks for your help; I found a way around my problem. official 5.10 install cd, then dist-upgrade. :-)
[11:21] <ikonia> yeah dri is back
[11:21] <KenSentMe> same here, so it's not fixed at all, or some mirrors aren't up to date yet
[11:21] <Z310N> does it hurt to get "old" knowledge about linux? can i use it or is things getting updated too fast in linux so old knowledge is no good?
[11:21] <peija-kas> start up Synaptic, select the package, then go to package menu and select Force version
[11:21] <peija-kas> select the previous version
[11:21] <peija-kas> apply
[11:21] <Overand> flash?
[11:21] <nopx90> ok thanks buddy
[11:21] <jme> NET||abuse: aren't the ati and radeon drivers the same?
[11:21] <Overand> er
[11:21] <Overand> ignore that
[11:22] <KenSentMe> peija-kas: that's not a fix, it's a workaround
[11:22] <jme> man, I just get a pathetic showing in glxgears
[11:22] <peija-kas> Z310N most stuff wont get old..like if u learn to use shell commands..they wont change all of a sudden :)
[11:22] <peija-kas> KenSentMe yea its no fix
[11:22] <nopx90> as for the sda4 problem... i think i'll reinstall... because i have some sensitive data on my laptop... oh well
[11:22] <peija-kas> but gets rid of the faulty package for the while being
[11:23] <Z310N> okay peija-kas, its just im sitting reading a book from 99, I would say its pritty old in the computer world
[11:23] <jme> I like combing garage sales for old computer books
[11:23] <Z310N> especially with the konstant growth of linux
[11:24] <peija-kas> yep..
[11:24] <peija-kas> nopx90 -
[11:24] <peija-kas>  Scanning for hidden files...                               [ Warning! ]
[11:24] <peija-kas> ---------------
[11:24] <peija-kas>  /dev/.static
[11:24] <peija-kas> /dev/.udev
[11:24] <peija-kas> /dev/.initramfs
[11:24] <peija-kas> /dev/.initramfs-tools /etc/.pwd.lock
[11:24] <peija-kas> /etc/.java
[11:24] <peija-kas> ---------------
[11:24] <peija-kas> Please inspect:  /dev/.static (directory)  /dev/.udev (directory)  /dev/.initramfs (directory)  /etc/.java (directory)
[11:24] <saintsjd> I would like to make a ubuntu kiosk with a tiny window manager and firefox as the only application. Any ideas where I can begin looking to find out how to do this?
[11:24] <peija-kas> this is normal...
[11:25] <peija-kas> saintsjd search ubuntu forums
[11:25] <KenSentMe> !paste > peija-kas
[11:25] <peija-kas> there was imho an article on locking down functions in gnome
[11:25] <peija-kas> oh "tiny wm"
[11:25] <peija-kas> :)
[11:26] <peija-kas> KenSentMe thx i didnt know of pastebin
[11:26] <peija-kas> i thought all private messaging was off
[11:26] <peija-kas> which is a bitch
[11:26] <saintsjd> I think tiny WM would be good
[11:26] <peija-kas> how can u get registered with your nickname here so u could use PM?
[11:27] <KenSentMe> type /msg nickserv help
[11:27] <tisek__> hey guys ! anyone knows of a "clean" way to install vim7 on dapper ?
[11:27] <Z310N> if you try to PM a person peija-kas it will instruct you to visit a site where a guide is located
[11:29] <NET||abuse> jme, that conf file give you any clues?
[11:29] <jme> NET||abuse: no, it's practically the same as mine!
[11:29] <peija-kas> Z310N yes if u read the server msg window ;)
[11:29] <jme> yet my glxgears perfomance is bad bad bad
[11:29] <NET||abuse> yeh, i barely had to touch it, one thing i know is that by default, it kept sticking in all the wacom devices, pointers and things from tablet pc type devices
[11:30] <NET||abuse> i had to strip them all out to get Xgl functioning
[11:30] <jme> yeah, I got rid of that junk
[11:30] <jme> so it impacts performance?
[11:30] <bintut> hello all..
[11:30] <peija-kas> xgl takes over 100 megs of memory
[11:30] <NET||abuse> seems to have some kind of a conflict that doesn't allow some facility of Xgl to operate
[11:30] <bintut> how can i enable php4 on my apache2 running ubuntu dapper?
[11:31] <NET||abuse> bintut, did you install apache2 through apt-get
[11:31] <NET||abuse> ?
[11:31] <jme> well, let's restart X and see
[11:31] <NET||abuse> :)
[11:31] <bintut> yes
[11:31] <NET||abuse> ok, then there should be apache2-php4 package
[11:31] <NET||abuse> sudo apt-get install apache2-php4; sudo apace2ctl graceful;
[11:32] <bintut> # apt-get install apache2-php4
[11:32] <bintut>  Couldn't find package apache2-php4
[11:32] <NET||abuse> sorry's
[11:32] <NET||abuse> apache2-mod-php4
[11:32] <NET||abuse> or libapache2-mod-php4
[11:32] <NET||abuse> yehyeh, that's the one
[11:32] <NET||abuse> libapache2-mod-php4
[11:33] <botxj> i seem to be missing the files gl.h and glx.h
[11:33] <bintut> installing
[11:33] <botxj> when i try and compile glitz for xgl
[11:33] <bintut> what about php4-cli with ssl support?
[11:33] <NET||abuse> botxj, are you running from cvs
[11:33] <NET||abuse> ?
[11:33] <botxj> yes the cvs one
[11:34] <NoobieDoobieDo> love you long time
[11:34] <jme> we love you too
[11:34] <NoobieDoobieDo> awesome.
[11:34] <botxj> glitz_glxint.h has an include to GL/g.h or somethign that dont exist
[11:34] <botxj> scoobie doobie doo
[11:34] <CromagDK> thanks for the link before but im looking for a comand for checking for a running nvidia driver anyway to check that ?
[11:34] <NoobieDoobieDo> where are you :)
[11:35] <botxj> lol
[11:36] <NoobieDoobieDo> but seriously - ubuntu is the best distro i've ever used
[11:36] <Healot> !ati
[11:36] <NoobieDoobieDo> but freebsd may give it a run for the money
[11:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:36] <botxj> same here NoobieDoobieDo
[11:36] <rol> How can I get Ubuntu to show verbose startup messages? I have already disabled the splash screen and removed quiet from menu.lst, but I'd also like the startup messages from all services.
[11:36] <jme> NET||abuse: disabling the wacom stuff seems to have no effect, yeah
[11:36] <whadar> anyone here got qemu to work properly with tun/tap bridge? im getting "no ip address" message when running the qemu...
[11:37] <botxj> NET||abuse: you looking into that xgl issue for me?
[11:37] <peija-kas> glxinfo? CromagDK
[11:37] <CromagDK> damn heh
[11:37] <NoobieDoobieDo> I`m trying to compile Neverball and I get this msg ... make: cc: Command not found
[11:37] <CromagDK> well i got info :)
[11:37] <CromagDK> thnkx :)
[11:37] <NoobieDoobieDo> help?
[11:37] <peija-kas> np
[11:38] <whadar> !qemu
[11:38] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[11:38] <rol> I have tried removing /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh, but the console still does not show anything.
[11:40] <micahcowan> NoobieDoobieDo, why not use the neverball package?
[11:40] <rem__> Hey..I ger this error when I apt-get update, the link however is reachable from that computer and apt-get update works fine from another computer in the network: 00:04:76:da:3a:87
[11:40] <rol> I have the impression that console output is still redirected somewhere; any idea how I can disable that?
[11:40] <rem__> Cannot initiate the connection to ch.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6 80]
[11:41] <rem__> why i the ip in ..is it ipv6 format ?
[11:41] <archangelpetro> ok.. i've apt-get install gdb  ... but where is it? shoudl the command to run it simply be 'gdb'?
[11:41] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, yes
[11:42] <archangelpetro> hmm
[11:42] <archangelpetro> i got a seg fault when trying to install it before
[11:42] <archangelpetro> and now installing it or not doesnt seem to work
[11:42] <shadukan> hi
[11:42] <opexoc> !libkdecore
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libkdecore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <shadukan> where can i download the ATI drivers for my linux tried the ati driver didn't find anything
[11:43] <rem__> anyone ?
[11:43] <rootpt> !ati
[11:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:44] <peija-kas> or use easyubuntu script for drivers..
[11:44] <NoobieDoobieDo> micahcowan: can't find the neverball package.
[11:45] <peija-kas> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  installs drivers, codecs, flash, java etc
[11:45] <Kablam> Is there a virtualisation program that is under the GPL?
[11:45] <peija-kas> Qemu?
[11:45] <jpjacobs> Kablam, qemu or Xen
[11:45] <peija-kas> Xen?
[11:45] <surface> yeah Qemu Kablam
[11:45] <archangelpetro> well i tried installing another package from apt... and that worked ok...
[11:45] <archangelpetro> but
[11:45] <micahcowan> NoobieDoobieDo, it's called "neverball". Try sudo apt-get install neverball
[11:45] <peija-kas> but also vmware player and server are free
[11:45] <peija-kas> but not open
[11:45] <NoobieDoobieDo> micahcowan: im watching it compile now :)
[11:45] <NoobieDoobieDo> but thanks
[11:46] <archangelpetro> when i try to install gdb.. it doesnt seem to wokr.. (it segfaulted trying to install it before when i had RAM problems)  any suggestions?
[11:46] <peija-kas> and u need to register at vmware to get keys...but they give several keys too if asked for many boxes
[11:47] <Kablam> Qemu uses "various" licences, apparently:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qemu
[11:47] <ashik> I cant open a.po file with gedit
[11:47] <peija-kas> but Xen, the Novell one...how about that..
[11:47] <peija-kas> ashik u need poedit
[11:47] <Marlun> What wiki engine is Ubuntu Documentation pages using?
[11:47] <peija-kas> but gedit should open it too??
[11:48] <micahcowan> NoobieDoobieDo, it's almost always better to use the provided package, though.
[11:48] <peija-kas> ashik apt-get install poedit
[11:48] <saintsjd> Is there a way to use ltsp-build-client script to create a command line only client root at /opt/ltsp/i386 as opposed to a full gnome desktop?
[11:48] <archangelpetro> can no one suggest a resolution?
[11:48] <peija-kas> its an editor for those .po files
[11:49] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, I don't believe you've actually clearly specified what the problem is, yet.
[11:49] <archangelpetro> well i dont really know... apt-get segfaulted when i was installing gdb
[11:49] <archangelpetro> and now i removed it
[11:49] <archangelpetro> and tried to reinstall it
[11:49] <archangelpetro> it says successfully installed
[11:50] <archangelpetro> but i cant run 'gdb' and synaptic shows it as not installed..
[11:50] <jpjacobs> !repositories
[11:50] <archangelpetro> how can i install it?
[11:50] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:50] <surface> archangelpetro:  maybe just now u r upgrading or open synaptic?
[11:50] <surface> archangelpetro:  don't open synaptic and apt-get at the same time
[11:50] <rene32> My canon i450 does not print. I have configured it in CUPS, it is available for pinting but it does not print. Now what? Any ideas?
[11:50] <unfknblvbl> switch it on ?
[11:50] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, did you try sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdb ?
[11:50] <archangelpetro> ah
[11:51] <archangelpetro> now synaptic shows that gdb is installed
[11:51] <unfknblvbl> thats how i solved my printing problem
[11:51] <surface> rene32:  http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631 , can access?
[11:51] <archangelpetro> but i still dont have the 'gdb' command?
[11:51] <rene32> surface: yes
[11:51] <surface> archangelpetro:  sudo -i
[11:51] <surface> gdb
[11:51] <micahcowan> surface, why in the world?
[11:51] <surface> archangelpetro:  or locate gdb
[11:51] <tisek> hey guys, I'm on ubuntu dapper, and i'd like to try xfce just to try you know, should I install xubuntu-desktop pasckage or only xfce ?
[11:52] <surface> rene32:  try to configure at there.
[11:52] <rene32> surface: It says "Make and Model: Canon imageRunner 330s Foomatic/lj4dith" (it is a canon i450)
[11:52] <surface> micahcowan:  whats about the world?
[11:52] <jpjacobs> !repositories
[11:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:52] <archangelpetro> http://rafb.net/paste/results/8mVjES13.html
[11:52] <micahcowan> surface, why should he try to run gdb as root? ("sudo -i")
[11:52] <archangelpetro> well i have a root account
[11:53] <archangelpetro> and when im root i cant execute gdb either
[11:53] <surface> rene32:  i just know u can configure at there, last time i configure with just probe around
[11:53] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, what is the output of dpkg -l gdb ?
[11:53] <surface> rene32:  ya one thing make sure ur /etc/hosts have localhost in it, cups uses that
[11:54] <archangelpetro> http://rafb.net/paste/results/vuNFDk57.html   micahcowan
[11:54] <surface> micahcowan:  oops it should be working without root
[11:54] <wo_Ot> ubuntu, can run on 3p 500mhz box?
[11:54] <jme> hmmmmm, the "vesa" driver is a step up
[11:54] <rene32> surface, I'll change the driver to some driver which seems to work (following some forum discussions). Let's see if that works out.
[11:55] <surface> rene32:  ok.
[11:56] <surface> archangelpetro:  close ur synaptic. and try sudo apt-get install gdb again.
[11:56] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, how about dpkg -s gdb ?
[11:57] <archangelpetro> well it seems to be installed from that.
[11:57] <archangelpetro> http://rafb.net/paste/results/RnjErq74.html
[11:57] <archangelpetro> hmm.. i just found the command gdbtui
[11:57] <BlackTiger> please help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262060
[11:58] <encarna> hola
[11:58] <wo_Ot> ubuntu, can run on 3p 500mhz box?
[11:58] <micahcowan> Arcainus, and you did do "sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdb"?
[11:58] <rene32> surface: I canged the driver from default to S450 and it seems to work. Just the wrong driver. thx for your help though
[11:58] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, ^^^^
[11:58] <archangelpetro> :/
[11:58] <archangelpetro> gdbtui seems to be gdb
[11:58] <Davo_Dinkum> woot: yes, but slowly. try xubuntu instead
[11:59] <archangelpetro> i have just done the reinstall.
[11:59] <micahcowan> is it there?
[11:59] <archangelpetro> no
[11:59] <archangelpetro> and when i run gdbtui
[11:59] <archangelpetro> i get a seg fault.
[12:01] <micahcowan> Arcainus, ls /usr/bin/gdb*
[12:01] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, ^^^^
[12:01] <surface> rene32:  welcome
[12:02] <archangelpetro> petroleum@akasha:~/downloads/dobbs$ ls /usr/bin/gdb*
[12:02] <archangelpetro> /usr/bin/gdbtui
[12:02] <archangelpetro> gdbtui segfaults when i run it
[12:03] <surface> archangelpetro:  never see gdbtui before, doubts which repo u get it from.
[12:03] <ashik> sorry the extension was .pot ............so which editor to use to open a.pot file
[12:03] <archangelpetro> no idea
[12:03] <archangelpetro> lol
[12:03] <archangelpetro> how do i find out?
[12:03] <archangelpetro> i can paste my sources list?
[12:05] <micahcowan> surface, on my system, dpkg -S /usr/bin/gdbtui says it's part of the gdb package. But so is /usr/bin/gdb.
[12:05] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, what is the result of dpkg -S /usr/bin/gdb?
[12:06] <surface> /usr/bin/gdb  /usr/bin/gdbserver  /usr/bin/gdbtui
[12:07] <archangelpetro> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Y1vde191.html
[12:07] <mtholdenss> whats up with all the upgrades? new kernel?
[12:09] <ashik> sorry the extension was .pot ............so which editor to use to open a.pot file
[12:09] <ashik> how to open a.pot file
[12:09] <surface> archangelpetro:  gdb seems not install, dpkg -l | grep gdb   did u see any gdb ?
[12:10] <archangelpetro> surface:  yea
[12:10] <archangelpetro> gdb and libgdbm3
[12:10] <surface> emmm gdb should be there...
[12:11] <surface> archangelpetro:  did u use other repos besides the ordinary one?
[12:11] <archangelpetro> i do belkieve so
[12:12] <archangelpetro> http://rafb.net/paste/results/SB9U4K30.html
[12:12] <surface> archangelpetro:  try to apt-get remove gdb , comment the unusual repo address, and apt-get update, then apt-get install gdb
[12:12] <archangelpetro> k
[12:12] <mtholdenss> new kernel?
[12:13] <codecaine> is there a rdesktop server for linux so you can connect to linux from the remote desktop client on windows?
[12:13] <surface> archangelpetro:  i am not kubuntu user, but is it a right way to put both ubuntu and kubuntu repo address together?
[12:14] <surface> archangelpetro:  u added ubuntu repo urself or come by default?
[12:14] <alucardsy> Hello - what is the root / sudo password for a generic ubuntu server installation - i cannot do a sudo without a password
[12:14] <darksector> way way way
[12:14] <archangelpetro> the bottom block surface i added myself
[12:14] <surface> alucardsy:  sudo needs ur user passwd instead of root passwd
[12:14] <alucardsy> surface, thank you
[12:14] <archangelpetro> i commented them out surface same problem
[12:14] <surface> archangelpetro:  i think might be the problem, comment all first, then apt-get update and try
[12:15] <l0pht> is it easy to install XGL on ubuntu?
[12:15] <surface> apt-get remove gdb
[12:15] <surface> then install again, same problem?
[12:15] <surface> did u update?
[12:15] <archangelpetro> surface: i removed all the ones i added in yea
[12:15] <archangelpetro> aye
[12:15] <surface> apt-get update
[12:16] <archangelpetro> i did
[12:16] <surface> gdb still get seg fault?
[12:16] <archangelpetro> aye
[12:16] <surface> weird
[12:16] <surface> let me think.....
[12:16] <surface> alucardsy:  welcome.
[12:16] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, you /might/ need to remove a gdb package from /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[12:17] <micahcowan> dunno if that will make a difference, but it might.
[12:17] <tempest> hey ootput you around?
[12:17] <surface> archangelpetro:  maybe, try micahcowan suggestion
[12:17] <archangelpetro> micahcowan: i might just have to reinstall the damn distro
[12:17] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, that seems unlikely.
[12:17] <archangelpetro> well
[12:17] <archangelpetro> i had RAM problems recently
[12:18] <surface> archangelpetro:  haha cannot simply put repo which u are not sure... i get it wrong last time too
[12:18] <archangelpetro> basically i think one of my RAM modules broken
[12:18] <_lyte_> Hi all, in my machine i dont have stdio.h :(
[12:18] <archangelpetro> and everything messed up when i was in the middle of installing gdb
[12:18] <surface> archangelpetro:  ram modules?
[12:18] <archangelpetro> which is why i got the segfault
[12:18] <archangelpetro> aye
[12:18] <_lyte_> when i compile it shows error
[12:18] <archangelpetro> i've removed 3 of the 4 ram modules i have
[12:18] <archangelpetro> one of them is faulty
[12:18] <_lyte_> i have gcc installed :( but how do i make sure that i can compile c programs ?
[12:19] <micahcowan> _lyte_, did you apt-get install build-essential? (as root)
[12:19] <surface> archangelpetro:  maybe, will restart make the different?
[12:19] <_lyte_> micahcowan: will do that now
[12:19] <archangelpetro> well i booted it just a min before we started talking
[12:19] <tempest> I installed ubuntu but when I reboot I get no option to boot into ubuntu. just goes to windows. can anyone help?
[12:19] <surface> _lyte_:  echo 'main(){int sp;printf("%p\n",&sp);}'>q.c;gcc -o q.x q.c;./q.x;rm q.?
[12:19] <_lyte_> this is the kernel source ?
[12:20] <surface> _lyte_: if it works that means ur gcc works
[12:20] <micahcowan> surface, yes, but it doesn't solve his missing stdio.h problem.
[12:20] <_lyte_> surface hold on..
[12:20] <E-bola> Does ubuntu work out of the box with sites like youtube google video etc?
[12:20] <surface> tempest:  emmm... what did u do in between ?
[12:21] <surface> micahcowan:  is it some *-devel needed?
[12:21] <tempest> surface, in between what :/
[12:21] <surface> micahcowan:  or glibc ? no idea
[12:21] <micahcowan> surface, yes. And the appropriate ones should be included as dependencies in build-depend.
[12:21] <_lyte_> surface: it doesn't work
[12:21] <_lyte_> :(
[12:21] <micahcowan> It's probably glibc-dev or somesuch.
[12:21] <surface> tempest:  in between install and reboot
[12:21] <_lyte_> glibc is also there i checked
[12:21] <micahcowan> _lyte_, did you install build-depend yet?
[12:21] <tempest> nothing
[12:22] <_lyte_> no its downloading
[12:22] <_lyte_> :)
[12:22] <_lyte_> am using a slow connection right now
[12:22] <tempest> surface, nothing. it asked me if i wanted to reboot or continue running from the cd I think. i hit reboot
[12:22] <micahcowan> _lyte_, ooc, what was the error you got from gcc?
[12:23] <surface> tempest:  u use live cd to install?
[12:23] <tempest> yup
[12:23] <gourdin> what is the problem with the last flash-plugin update ?
[12:23] <micahcowan> tempest, sounds like the master boot record didn't get overwritten...
[12:23] <surface> tempest:  my case is i do upgrade from breezy... did u search around google? i am sure somebody get this too
[12:23] <gourdin> dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree
[12:23] <surface> tempest:  when asked to install grub, did u say yes?
[12:24] <micahcowan> gourdin, I believe I heard that some things specific to edgy got backported to dapper and broke. :/
[12:24] <lastnode> surface, dapper doesnt ask you about grub
[12:24] <micahcowan> iow, there were still edgy-specific assumtpions in it.
[12:24] <gourdin> micahcowan: ok, we just have to wait so ;)
[12:24] <tempest> surface, If I was asked I would have said yes but I don't remember being asked tbh
[12:24] <surface> lastnode:  oh... sorry i donno.
[12:24] <Moodles> does anyone know how to access remote windows shares from a terminal?
[12:24] <tempest> I installed last night
[12:24] <gourdin> micahcowan: thx for the info
[12:25] <surface> tempest:  did u change ur hdd location or remove cdromm or switch ur hdd and cdrom?
[12:25] <micahcowan> Moodles, smbmount.
[12:25] <decherdt> !smbmount
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <tempest> no.
[12:25] <tempest> made no hardware changes since install
[12:26] <surface> Moodles:  the easies way is open nautilus type smb://windows-ip
[12:26] <micahcowan> Moodles, I'm not /entirely/ sure what package it's in. smbfs looks like a good candidate. Otherwise, try apt-cache search ^samba
[12:26] <E-bola> Did anybody know if ubuntu work with video streaming websites by default?
[12:26] <peija-kas> no
[12:26] <Moodles> ok
[12:26] <peija-kas> u need to installl multimedia codecs
[12:26] <micahcowan> surface, I didn't know you could do that with nautilus. Do you have to have smbfs or something similar installed?
[12:27] <peija-kas> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  installs drivers, codecs, flash, java etc
[12:27] <E-bola> sounds great
[12:27] <peija-kas> E-bola use that easyubuntu script ot easily get all video stuff etc
[12:27] <E-bola> its not included in the normal ubuntu dist?
[12:27] <tempest> micahcowan, any suggestions if thats the case?
[12:27] <peija-kas> it fetched them from PEnguin Liberation Front repositories
[12:27] <peija-kas> no, that script is unofficial
[12:27] <E-bola> alright
[12:28] <peija-kas> theyre not included by default because many codecs etc are proprietary
[12:28] <E-bola> ive never used ubuntu before
[12:28] <peija-kas> not open,free software
[12:28] <E-bola> ive run debian servers for 4 years though
[12:28] <peija-kas> so they cant ship them by default
[12:28] <E-bola> but has a friend who woudl like to try linux on his laptop
[12:28] <boink> debian and ubuntu are quite similar
[12:28] <E-bola> peija: ya same goes for debian
[12:28] <micahcowan> tempest, no easy ones. The easiest way to deal with it might be to reinstall :/ ...it's probably possible to boot back into Live CD and chroot into your new Linux partition, and run grub-install from there, but I probably won't be sticking around long enough to step you through that.
[12:28] <surface> micahcowan:  i think no need for access to windows host. i do nothing it comes by default
[12:28] <peija-kas> yup if u used debian ull be at home ;)
[12:28] <boink> ubuntu have changed a few things, but the difference isn't that great
[12:28] <micahcowan> surface, sweet.
[12:29] <surface> micahcowan:  kongkoror can do tat too, but not other file-roller
[12:29] <E-bola> Do you guys think a p4 1,6 ghz laptop with 256 mb ram
[12:29] <peija-kas> yes
[12:29] <E-bola> should be able to surf and watch stremaing videos wityh acceptible performance?
[12:30] <Hor|zon> lol wtf would you use debian unless it was for a server....and wtf would you want debian on a server?
[12:30] <boink> sure, depending on the box
[12:30] <peija-kas> i run Xubuntu on a Thinkpad a21m that has 192 megs mem and a 400 mhz cpu
[12:30] <E-bola> ok
[12:30] <boink> many use debian as a server
[12:30] <E-bola> umm
[12:30] <E-bola> debian is the best server os
[12:30] <peija-kas> i tried Ubuntu w gnome too, but that was sluggish
[12:30] <peija-kas> it worked but slugish
[12:30] <micahcowan> Hor|zon, wth are you talking about? Many, many people use it as either a server or a desktop. And as boink has pointed out, the differences ubuntu has made are not absolutely huge...
[12:30] <boink> if it's your preference, use debian as your server OS
[12:30] <tempest> ok micahcowan. someone actually gave me some instructions earlier but I got stuck trying to mount something as it said I was not root. who am I when running livecd?
[12:31] <peija-kas> so that lappie E-bola shoul be fine
[12:31] <boink> open/free source is about free choice
[12:31] <fdr> hello! I need to rotate a video (mpeg) by 90 ... how can I do? (no, turning the monitor is not a solution :-P) thank you!
[12:31] <E-bola> peija-kas: cant wait to try it :)
[12:31] <boink> ubuntu is linux for human beings :)
[12:31] <peija-kas> what model laptop is it E-bola
[12:31] <micahcowan> tempest, when you need to be root, simply try the command again with "sudo" prefixed to it. Or you can begin a root shell with the command "sudo -i"
[12:31] <E-bola> peija-kas: ibm t30
[12:31] <Hor|zon> big enough to make running debian as a desktop pointless....unless you're looking for a server with a desktop
[12:32] <tempest> ok thanks i'll give that a try
[12:32] <Hor|zon> or are just comfortable with debian and don't wanna use ubuntu
[12:32] <peija-kas> E-bola check this http://www.linux-laptop.net/  Linux on laptops
[12:32] <peija-kas> they have compatibility charts etc
[12:32] <tempest> also does anyone have any idea why ubuntu would freeze when I'm trying to access the net with my wireless
[12:32] <boink> thanks for the url
[12:32] <tempest> using livecd
[12:32] <E-bola> peija-kas: ever watch videos on it?
[12:32] <micahcowan> Hor|zon, running debian as a server doesn't imply you have a desktop installed.
[12:32] <peija-kas> yes
[12:32] <peija-kas> videos work..
[12:32] <tempest> this would be so much easier if i had the net working on ubuntu :/
[12:32] <Hor|zon> obviously
[12:32] <surface> tempest:  dapper u using?
[12:32] <tempest> surface, dapper?
[12:33] <surface> tempest:  i got that too at breezy, it hapens to gaim.
[12:33] <grouchytim> Quick question: is SSH enabled to receive incoming connections straight off the disk? I have edgy.
[12:33] <micahcowan> tempest, Dapper Dan is the code name for Ubuntu 6.06
[12:33] <Hor|zon> where did I say it implied having a desktop? infact I said the opposite
[12:33] <grouchytim> if not how do i start it up?
[12:33] <peija-kas> no ssh server isnt installed by def
[12:33] <surface> tempest:  ur wireles makes hang.
[12:33] <tempest> ah
[12:33] <peija-kas> sudo apt-get install sshd
[12:33] <tempest> latest livecd
[12:33] <peija-kas> installs ssh server daemon
[12:33] <peija-kas> listens by default on def ssh port 22
[12:33] <grouchytim> right
[12:33] <tempest> is there a workaround?
[12:34] <peija-kas> it also has root login enabled by default u should remove that in the conf file
 big enough to make running debian as a desktop pointless....unless you're looking for a server with a desktop
[12:34] <tempest> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso btw
[12:34] <grouchytim> already took it off
[12:34] <Hor|zon> read up more
[12:34] <Hor|zon> it's out of context
[12:34] <grouchytim> just not sure how to start up ssh
[12:34] <grouchytim> here's the skinny
[12:34] <grouchytim> i can't reach the internet
[12:34] <peija-kas> grouchytim - sshd runs in background after installed
[12:34] <grouchytim> but i can reach the router
[12:35] <grouchytim> and i can ping the ubuntu from the router
[12:35] <peija-kas> ssh conf files are in /etc/ssh/ssh_config and sshd_config
[12:35] <peija-kas> where u can disable root login
[12:35] <grouchytim> "router" is a mandrake computer
[12:35] <micahcowan> Hor|zon, no, it's not. the only other thign you said before that is <Hor|zon> lol wtf would you use debian unless it was for a server....and wtf would you want debian on a server?
[12:35] <peija-kas> ssh client is installed by default
[12:35] <grouchytim> ok so just alter teh config files with vim
[12:35] <Hor|zon> I was saying debian is good for servers, and there are better things to use for servers
[12:35] <peija-kas> just type in console ssh <username>@<ip address>
[12:36] <grouchytim> ahhh
[12:36] <grouchytim> let me give that a shot
[12:36] <micahcowan> debian is a very good choice for many, I don't think it's fruitful to knock it. And there would be no ubuntu if debian dropped dead, since they have several times the numbers of developers we do.
[12:36] <peija-kas> yeah debian is what makes ubuntu possible, no doubt
[12:36] <boink> of course
[12:36] <peija-kas> no debian, npo ubuntu
[12:36] <surface> tempest:  not sure.
[12:36] <grouchytim> says secure connection to xx.xx.xx.xx refused
[12:36] <boink> www.thwarte.com was built on debian too
[12:37] <peija-kas> so lets all thank debain devs ;)
[12:37] <boink> *clap*
[12:37] <peija-kas> grouchytim - u must have ssh disabled on the box u trying to connect to
[12:37] <peija-kas> or it doesnt have ssh server daemon
[12:37] <kalm> doing alot of distros are based on Debian :?
[12:37] <grouchytim> must
[12:37] <Hor|zon> heh I never said it succked...I said there are better choices for a desktop comp...and there are better choices for a server os...in my opinion obviously
[12:37] <grouchytim> so how to start ssh?
[12:37] <boink> kalm: some
[12:37] <peija-kas> install sshd on that box too and its on
[12:37] <Hor|zon> and I only see the sense in using it as a desktop/server....that's what I was saying
[12:37] <peija-kas> or whatever package it is in for mandrake i dunno
[12:37] <elkbuntu> idle chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:38] <Hor|zon> and it's just my opinion
[12:38] <grouchytim> mandrake is setup
[12:38] <grouchytim> been running for several years now
[12:38] <Hor|zon> yeah yeah
[12:38] <_kalm> im having trouble setting up my Ubuntu to run DVD's ? ? ? anyone wanna help me?
[12:38] <grouchytim> logged into it 100's of times
[12:38] <grouchytim> but it just runs
[12:38] <elkbuntu> o.O
[12:38] <peija-kas> ok i see
[12:38] <grouchytim> haven't done an install in a while
[12:39] <peija-kas> then i dunno..did u try to log in with a username that exists on the mandrakje box?
[12:39] <grouchytim> yes
[12:39] <peija-kas> hmm
[12:39] <peija-kas> then i dont know..
[12:40] <grouchytim> ok i was able to ssh INTO the router from ubuntu
[12:40] <E-bola> peija-kas: i cant a list of whats in easyubuntu
[12:40] <E-bola> like what codecs etc
[12:40] <grouchytim> but now i need to get into ubuntu from the router
[12:40] <E-bola> mainly wondierign if they include wmv and wma support
[12:40] <peija-kas> E-bola .. it has win 32 codecs
[12:40] <peija-kas> but its not perfect
[12:40] <peija-kas> but uknow, not all wmas work on windows either ;)
[12:40] <boink> I think it's best to install mplayer yourself
[12:40] <peija-kas> so fair enuff
[12:40] <E-bola> vlc recently started uspporting wmv natively
[12:40] <peija-kas> VLC player
[12:40] <boink> compile it yourself
[12:40] <peija-kas> is best imho
[12:40] <E-bola> via ffmpeg and the reference decoder
[12:41] <E-bola> ya ive been involved with vlc for 3 years :)
[12:41] <peija-kas> when u have w 32 codecs and vlc most work
[12:41] <boink> does the ubuntun VLC support wma/wmv?
[12:41] <peija-kas> not outta box, qith codecs
[12:41] <boink> ok
[12:41] <E-bola> but our firefox plugin doesnt work with the big video sites win32 browser codes as far as i know
[12:41] <peija-kas> easyubuntu scrpts/PLF repos w32 codecs enable it with vlc
[12:41] <E-bola> hmm thats no good
[12:41] <peija-kas> yeh the firefox support aint grat
[12:41] <E-bola> i need support embedded int he browser
[12:41] <boink> you need to compile it yourself
[12:41] <peija-kas> VLC has plugin for browser
[12:42] <Code-E> !tell Code-E about tar
[12:42] <boink> there are guides for that
[12:42] <peija-kas> im not sure how well it works...some sites work some dont
[12:42] <E-bola> yes, but it doesnt work if the page is scripted for windows media player
[12:42] <E-bola> do u have it installed?
[12:42] <peija-kas> then u need to install IE4Linux
[12:42] <surface> i like mplayer and xine
[12:42] <E-bola> coudl soembody try www.break.com
[12:42] <peija-kas> ill try E-bola
[12:42] <surface> mplayer plugin works fine with firefox
[12:43] <E-bola> surface: can u try www.break.com
[12:43] <E-bola> see if u guys can play it from ubuntu
[12:43] <E-bola> without manualy copying url's etc
[12:43] <surface> E-bola:  oops using fc5 now.
[12:43] <boink> are the audio codecs the only patent problem with ubuntu at the moment?
[12:43] <peija-kas> nah break.com dont work on me
[12:43] <Code-E> How do you install tar.gz files
[12:44] <E-bola> :(
[12:44] <botxj> where do i find stddef.h ?
[12:44] <holycow> boink, its not an ubuntu problem
[12:44] <boink> I know that
[12:44] <holycow> boink, its a patent system problem
[12:44] <boink> yes
[12:44] <holycow> :) k jus makin sure
[12:44] <myatthu> Code-E, you got to tar -zxvf file .. then ./configure,make,make install ...
[12:44] <boink> but if you install ubuntu, are there other things to be aware of with the same problem?
[12:44] <holycow> boink, a whole lot of codecs are encumbered by patents, a lot of audio and video codecs
[12:44] <boink> yeah :/
[12:45] <boink> ok, ta holycow
[12:45] <dchiriac>  /server irc.lug.ro
[12:45] <holycow> boink, by default ubuntu does not install anything that is non-free, thus sasfe in countries with such issues
[12:45] <grouchytim> thanx peija-kas for your help
[12:45] <peija-kas> np
[12:45] <grouchytim> still broke though lol
[12:46] <peija-kas> lol
[12:46] <grouchytim> i'll figure it out one day
[12:46] <grouchytim> thanx
[12:46] <peija-kas> did u check ssh_config and sshd_config in /etc/ssh? on both boxes?
[12:46] <Cyball> can somebody help me : i've tried now to reboot my computer after reconfigure wlan in /etc/network/interfaces and it connects ones the computer is started after that it doesn't
[12:47] <Code-E> !tell Cod-E about rar
[12:47] <grouchytim> nope
[12:47] <peija-kas> so theres nothing that causes them to not connect grouchytim
[12:47] <Code-E> !tell Code-E about rar
[12:47] <grouchytim> but i think i can
[12:47] <ketsugi> !rar
[12:47] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:47] <Yaakov> Howdy.  I just installed kubuntu on a ThinkPad T30 with almost complete success.  The problem I am having is with sleep/hibernate functions.  The OS seems to be unable to read the lid switch and doesn't offer and hibernation options that I can spot.  Anyone have any leads, clues or advice?
[12:47] <grouchytim> no i did it from router to ubuntu
[12:47] <grouchytim> just won't reverse
[12:47] <grouchytim> ubuntu refuses connection
[12:48] <peija-kas> then most likely something in ubuntus sshd_config..do u have the sshd daemon running? check in System monitor etc
[12:48] <rouven> hi. why is there no loopback device on edgy?
[12:49] <myatthu> rouven, you mean <IP_ADDRESS> aka localhost ?
[12:49] <rouven> myatthu, yes.
[12:49] <grouchytim> says it's sleeping
[12:49] <peija-kas> = is on
[12:49] <grouchytim> ssh-agent is sleeping
[12:49] <myatthu> what you get when you do ifconfig ?
[12:49] <peija-kas> sshd is the daemon
[12:49] <scrp> is anyone familiar with VMware?
[12:49] <grouchytim> if sleeping is running right?
[12:49] <peija-kas> yes i use vmware
[12:49] <peija-kas> yes sleeping is running
[12:50] <grouchytim> so it's waiting for a connection
[12:50] <surface> scrp:  any problem with vmware?
[12:50] <peija-kas> yup
[12:50] <Yaakov> grouchytim: try netstat -a and see if it is listening.
[12:50] <rouven> myatthu, module loop is loaded, /etc/init.d/loop started, but there is no lo.
[12:50] <scrp> where does Ubuntu store configuration files for eth0 and all that
[12:50] <grouchytim> ok
[12:50] <boink> scrp: /etc/network/interfaces
[12:50] <scrp> surface: well i have so many vmnets lol, just want to get rid of few from bootup
[12:50] <myatthu> rouven, try sudo ifup lo
[12:50] <peija-kas> oh i havent made/removed vmnets..dunno howto
[12:50] <grouchytim> yes ssh is listening
[12:51] <kaypax> hi all
[12:51] <scrp> surface: i have like eth0, eth1, vmnet1, vmnet2 and vmnet8 all in ifconfig
[12:51] <grouchytim> Yaakov ssh is listening
[12:51] <Yaakov> grouchytim: Can you ssh from the box itself to it's outside interface?
[12:51] <rouven> myatthu, "Ignoring unknown interface lo=lo."
[12:51] <Cyball> can somebody help me with RT2500 WLAN i get a connection only during computer starting after i can't connect to WLAN router
[12:51] <peija-kas> grouchytim like ssh to the same box
[12:51] <kaypax> I'm new to Ubuntu, so, could any1 tell me how to get root access to the system?
[12:51] <Yaakov> lo0
[12:51] <grouchytim> no i can't get past the router but i can ssh into the router
[12:51] <myatthu> wha
[12:51] <peija-kas> kaypax use sudo in front of command
[12:52] <myatthu> unknown interface
[12:52] <peija-kas> then it asks for pasword
[12:52] <boink> !tell kaypax about sudo
[12:52] <Yaakov> grouchytim: No, from the machine, ssh to it's OWN address.
[12:52] <grouchytim> hmm good one
[12:52] <grouchytim> i'll try it now
[12:52] <Yaakov> Are there any laptop-clued people that might show up here at some point during the day?
[12:52] <myatthu> rouven, then its out of my league ... let me search on google see if i can get the solution
[12:53] <grouchytim> says secure connection refused but it thought about it for a while
[12:53] <peija-kas> then the prob is at Ubuntu box :)
[12:53] <surface> scrp:  me have 2 vmnett too what is the prob?
[12:53] <Yaakov> grouchytim: Do you have the firewall set to block 22?
[12:53] <grouchytim> i figured
[12:53] <grouchytim> i dunno
[12:53] <grouchytim> where do i check that
[12:53] <Yaakov> iptables -F
[12:53] <peija-kas> install firestarter for an easy GUI
[12:53] <grouchytim> wait one
[12:53] <peija-kas> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[12:54] <scrp> surface: i dont want them :o, i only need 1 vmnet, the rest isnt used i think
[12:54] <Yaakov> If it works after that, you need to fix the firewall configuration.
[12:54] <myatthu> yup i also recommend firestarter ... or learn iptables :P
[12:54] <surface> firestarter is not a nice firewall
[12:54] <scrp> iptalbes rules!
[12:54] <peija-kas> Firestarter is a lot easier thou ;)
[12:54] <surface> but uit us east
[12:54] <scrp> iptables is teh shiznit
[12:54] <rouven> myatthu, seems to be my error, sorry.
[12:54] <Yaakov> Webmin's interface to iptables can be helpful.
[12:54] <surface> scrp:  reconfigure vmplayer will do
[12:54] <grouchytim> didn't work after that
[12:54] <peija-kas> i can read iptables a little, but make my own rules? ha :D
[12:54] <myatthu> your error ?
[12:54] <rouven> myatthu, commented out ifac lo in inteaces and forgot about that.
[12:54] <scrp> peija-kas: its rather simple
[12:55] <myatthu> haaa ok ...
[12:55] <Yaakov> peija-kas: Try webmin's interface, it makes things much easier.
[12:55] <Cyball> does nobody know anything about rt2500 wlan ??? i
[12:55] <Code-E> I'm trying to install winrar here, but its just not letting me
[12:55] <Yaakov> peija-kas: It is pure iptables, just a rule-writer.
[12:55] <grouchytim> Yaakov it didn't work after that either
[12:55] <peija-kas> Yaakov: for my purposes, firestarter works well :)
[12:55] <scrp> surface: hmm vmplayer you say
[12:55] <Yaakov> peija-kas: OK.
[12:55] <surface> wb mypapit
[12:56] <mypapit> ty surface
[12:56] <surface> (:
[12:56] <codecaine> why everytime you update and install something flash always come up erroring
[12:56] <_lyte_> surface: I got it working now after the build-essentials installation :)
[12:56] <surface> mypapit: have a nice sleep?
[12:56] <Yaakov> peija-kas: For the record: webmin, webmin-core and webmin-firewall are the packages you want.
[12:56] <peija-kas> http://www.ducea.com/2006/07/03/using-fail2ban-to-block-brute-force-attacks/  good article for securing your remote login accounts
[12:56] <Yaakov> peija-kas: If you feel moved to try it.
[12:56] <surface> _lyte_:  alright
[12:56] <_lyte_> micahcowan: thanx
[12:56] <peija-kas> Yaakov ill see them
[12:57] <rlandi1> this is my first time on need a few pointers
[12:57] <Code-E> CAn someone tell me how I can cd to my home folder
[12:57] <Code-E> :S
[12:57] <peija-kas> fail2ban follows logs and blocks ips when someone tries to login with wrong login/pw for enough times
[12:57] <Yaakov> *sigh*  I had high hopes for kubuntu on my T30, but if it can't sleep or hibernate it's not very useful.
[12:57] <peija-kas> Code-E "cd"
[12:57] <SonicvanaJr>  /away School
[12:57] <peija-kas> and it goes to current users jhome
[12:57] <surface> Code-E:  just cd
[12:57] <mypapit> surface: yeah, actually i was out just now
[12:57] <Code-E> but that brings me to the deskto
[12:57] <Code-E> p*
[12:57] <scrp> mmk ima try to delete /etc/vmware/vmnet* and use the config again
[12:58] <Yaakov> grouchytim: Your problem doesn't make a lot of sense, it is hard to understand what might be causing it with the information I have.
[12:58] <scrp> hope that will do the trick
[12:58] <surface> Code-E:  cd ~urname
[12:58] <Code-E> ok
[12:58] <grouchytim> yeah i get that alot the last few days
[12:58] <codecaine> how can you makea window minimize like gaim when you hit exit on it
[12:58] <scrp> peija-kas: the best way to protect against failed logins are firewalls
[12:58] <TeePOG> no Code-E... it shows you the subdirectory called Desktop, as a listing of the /home/username directory
[12:58] <grouchytim> anyway i'll be back after 5 eastern to hack away at it some more
[12:58] <Code-E> ok
[12:58] <peija-kas> scrp - firewall is no help when u have a ssh port open so u can login :)
[12:59] <grouchytim> thanx for your help all
[12:59] <Code-E> And how do I extract rar files
[12:59] <peija-kas> of course i have firewall, with port 22 open so I can login ;)
[12:59] <Code-E> the command unrar isn't working
[12:59] <scrp> peija-kas: thats why we filter port 22 open only to known ips
[12:59] <kaypax> well, I dun wanna be anoying, so I'm just gonna ask for a tutorial for Ubuntu, or at least for Linux in general
[12:59] <peija-kas> scrp - i need access from anywhere
[12:59] <myatthu> Code-E, i use unrar .. it is in the repo
[12:59] <surface> codecaine:  recode gaim to make that. :P
[12:59] <kaypax> could any1 point me to the right direction?
[12:59] <grouchytim> yeah i think i need to alter that table
[12:59] <peija-kas> universit, cafes etc
[12:59] <grouchytim> anyway
[12:59] <grouchytim> thanx again
[12:59] <grouchytim> see ya'll later tonight
[12:59] <seanh> Hi all - I want to use the command notify-send, does anyone know what package I need to install first? I've forgotten
[12:59] <codecaine> have no ideal how to do it
[12:59] <boink> kaypax: www.ubuntu.com is a good start
[12:59] <Code-E> myatthu i just installed that
[12:59] <Code-E> but when i type unrar in the terminal
[12:59] <kaypax> ok^^
[12:59] <Code-E> it doesn't do anything
[12:59] <surface> code-e rar e filename.rar
[01:00] <myatthu> Code-E, then try this unrar -x file.rar
[01:00] <boink> the documentation is written very well
[01:00] <surface> Code-E:   rar e filename.rar
[01:00] <Code-E> bash: unrar: command not found
[01:00] <kaypax> ok, thanx boik
[01:00] <Code-E> bash: rar: command not found
[01:00] <peija-kas> so fail2ban is good for this - i need to login from any ip myself, but if someone tries 5 failed logins, the ip will be banned permanently until i unban it
[01:00] <surface> Code-E:  sudo apt-get install rar
[01:01] <myatthu> ah both will extract .... interesting
[01:01] <peija-kas> fail2ban adds the ip to iptables chains
[01:01] <Code-E> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:01] <Code-E> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:01] <Code-E> is only available from another source
[01:01] <scrp> peija-kas: i dont trust any problem with my firewall :S
[01:01] <peija-kas> it can be configured for timed bans also, and for other protocols..it can follow any log u want
[01:01] <Yaakov> peija-kas: I just move my sshd to a different port--though that doesn't work well if you are behind a firewall that only allows 22.
[01:01] <scrp> peija-kas: you can also just stealth the port, or change the port
[01:01] <scrp> brb reboobing
[01:01] <peija-kas> also my wife needs to login from university..they allow port 22 only
[01:02] <Yaakov> peija-kas: But the fail2ban program looks nice, I am working on something very similar but ditributed.
[01:02] <Yaakov> s
[01:02] <peija-kas> ive tested it a little and it works nice
[01:02] <Code-E> I did sudo apt-get install unrar-free earlier
[01:02] <Code-E> and it installed
[01:02] <Code-E> but i can't unrar anything
[01:02] <peija-kas> i only have it follow ssh login tries since i have no other services open
[01:02] <Yaakov> Any machine on my subnet that gets hit will announce the address and it is blackholed on all the machines.
[01:03] <surface> Code-E:  aya my ubuntu is not with me, try to apt-cache search rar and see
[01:03] <bikstopa> hii
[01:03] <surface> anyone who have rar, pls dpkg -S `which rar`
[01:03] <unni> hello
[01:03] <bionoid> it's in package 'rar'.
[01:04] <rlandi1> hello unni
[01:04] <unni> rlandi1 hello
[01:04] <Code-E> E: Invalid operation cache
[01:04] <Yaakov> "unrar" is the non-free version, according to apt-cache.
[01:04] <surface> Code-E:  somehow i get it from a repo,
[01:05] <rlandi1> unni new to this just trying to make contact my first time on
[01:05] <Yaakov> Oops, he... left.
[01:05] <surface> i am not sure unrar, one time my unrar doesn't works at nautilus, so i use rar e
[01:05] <xxzx> #ubuntu-cn
[01:05] <unni> rlandi1 ur from
[01:06] <voraistos> hey guys. I am thinking about buying a video capture card... Of course i need it to work fine with ubuntu, where can i find a list of nice working stuff
[01:06] <rlandi1> unni massachusettes
[01:06] <Yaakov> OK, pardon the spam-like behavior, please...
[01:06] <Yaakov> Howdy.  I just installed kubuntu on a ThinkPad T30 with almost complete success.  The problem I am having is with sleep/hibernate functions.  The OS seems to be unable to read the lid switch and doesn't offer and hibernation options that I can spot.  Anyone have any leads, clues or advice?
[01:06] <fyrestrtr> voraistos: at the website of mythtv.
[01:06] <Yaakov> (one last go)
[01:07] <rlandi1> unni running a omnibook 4100 with external modem
[01:07] <voraistos> cheers firestarter
[01:07] <unni> yes
[01:08] <rlandi1> unni where u from
[01:08] <unni> india
[01:08] <unni> can u go to im chat
[01:09] <rlandi1> I think so
[01:09] <boink> there's #ubuntu-offtopic too
[01:09] <surface> there is #ubuntu-my too
[01:10] <boink> if you speak Bahasa Malay, sure :)
[01:11] <surface> nah, boink they speak english.
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> Yaakov: check the laptop wiki
[01:12] <Yaakov> fyrestrtr: Do you have a URL?
[01:13] <fyrestrtr> !laptop
[01:13] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[01:13] <Yaakov> fyrestrtr: Thanks.
[01:14] <MistaED> hey, i have a question: i've moved dapper from one drive to another (hda6 to sda3, being hd(0,5) to hd(0,2)) with 90% success. the only problem i have now is whenever i update/add a kernel, it completely clears out my changes in menu.lst to the ones it had before (hda6/hd(0,5) instead of sda3/(hd0,2)) cheers
[01:14] <davvs_> how do i know what disk is mountet at a specific folder?
[01:14] <MistaED> *is there a certain script which is run everytime i update for grub which contains these settings and where could it be?
[01:15] <fyrestrtr> type mount davvs_
[01:15] <davvs_> ok, thanks fyrestrtr
[01:15] <fyrestrtr> MistaED: the instructions on how to customize the grub menu list are in the comments in menu.lst
[01:16] <znull> dapper is still using gnome 2.14.?
[01:16] <MistaED> fyrestrtr: yeah but whenever i update the kernel my menu.lst is hosed with the old settings
[01:17] <silent_scream> i performed a "killall gnome-panel" an all the icons of the systray disappeared!! how can i make them appear again????
[01:17] <boink> isn't there grub-update or something like that
[01:17] <devilsadvocate> silent_scream : is a restart out of the question .... ?
[01:18] <silent_scream> so every time i refresh gnome i have to restart?
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> silent_scream: gnome-panel &
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> silent_scream: and, just FYI, that's *not* how you refresh gnome (whatever tha heck that means)
[01:18] <MistaED> boink: i'll check
[01:19] <silent_scream> FYI ? ? ?
[01:19] <devilsadvocate> erm.. silent_scream : log out and log back in to restart gnome
[01:19] <devilsadvocate> dont kill random processes
[01:19] <boink> MistaED: I hope I'm on the right track here .. after updating grub, there could be an utility called update-grup or something like that
[01:19] <unfknblvbl> if the current nv driver does not work can i just download a driver of nvidia.com to install my gfx ?
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> what do you mean it doesn't work?
[01:20] <unfknblvbl> s/off/of
[01:20] <unfknblvbl> well
[01:20] <unfknblvbl> when i set it as nv the system has a fit
[01:20] <anto9us> how do I make a dos floppy disk bootable?
[01:20] <unfknblvbl> and the screen goes blocky sorta
[01:20] <MistaED> boink: yes there is, now to find a /etc/* :D
[01:20] <GnarusLeo> Wich command showes where my current cellphones are connected in /dev/ again??
[01:21] <silent_scream> i'm sorry could you tell me again how to restore systray icons? cause gnome-panel & didn't work..
[01:21] <opexoc> Can you tell me what directory can I use for my startup scritps?
[01:22] <devilsadvocate> silent_scream  : log out, log back in
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> silent_scream: what did you do before they dissapeared?
[01:22] <devilsadvocate> and next time
[01:22] <silent_scream> killall gnome-panel fyrestrtr
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> unfknblvbl: what video card do you have?
[01:22] <devilsadvocate> DONT killall gnome-panel to refresh gnome :|
[01:22] <unfknblvbl> fyrestrtr:  GeForce 6800 GS 512 MB
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> silent_scream: logout, then hit ctrl+alt+backspace, then login again.
[01:22] <silent_scream> devilsadvocate, ubuntuguide says so i didn't make it out of my mind
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> unfknblvbl: that driver should work fine for you. However, if you really feel the need to install the binary driver from nvidia.com, the instructions are available at the wiki.
[01:23] <unfknblvbl> k
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> silent_scream: what are you trying to do anyway?
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia > unfknblvbl
[01:23] <silent_scream> nothing importand, i just wanted to know
[01:24] <unfknblvbl> thankyou
[01:24] <HetaUma> Hi I'm making a net install of ubuntu right now. Can I somehow see the download speed of my network ?
[01:24] <dennda> hi. i found some bugs in edgy. were may i post them? i remember there is an option on launchpad.net to do so but i don't find it.
[01:24] <DennyCrane> hey guys, any way of fixing a b0rked ntfs disk from linux? tools etc?
[01:24] <jrib> dennda: #ubuntu+1 is for edgy discussion, bugs are at bugs.ubuntu.com
[01:25] <silent_scream> anyway, last question. when i run a prog through wine i.e. utorrent, some fonts are missing. how can i change that???
[01:25] <dennda> jrib, thank you
[01:26] <ekorion> silent, try to install msttcorefonts? Not sure if it will help
[01:26] <silent_scream> yep they are installed
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> DennyCrane: depends what's broke in it.
[01:26] <Nilvio> enyone know how i get my ati drivers back ? i got something ubuntu update and then my ati drivers changed mesa enyone can help mee ?
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> Nilvio: you need to re-install them. You probably got a kernel upgrade.
[01:27] <Nilvio> i have re-installed
[01:27] <Nilvio> but they not channed
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> Nilvio: how did you install them in the first place?
[01:27] <mabus> Hey... I exported xterm-256color as my term, so I could use elinks in color. It works, so I decided to make it so my .bashrc sets these variables when I load up. However, I get an error saying "Error opening terminal: xterm-256color." when I go to `nano ~/.bashrc`... any idea why?
[01:27] <Nilvio> that one good site not work
[01:28] <Nilvio> where is install help
[01:28] <ekorion> has anyone ever set up ircd-hybrid?
[01:28] <unfknblvbl> how would i find out what kernel i'm running ?
[01:28] <jrib> unfknblvbl: uname -r
[01:28] <boink> uname -a
[01:28] <unfknblvbl> thankyou again
[01:28] <fyrestrtr> mabus: the TERM= value in .bashrc is not the same thing as what terminal emulator runs.
[01:28] <finalbeta> dennda, edgy = #ubuntu+1 and you need to report the bugs not in the edgy branch on launchpad, but in ubuntu on general https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug , please search if the buigs has not been reported yet.
[01:29] <jrib> !ati > Nilvio
[01:29] <Nilvio> !ati
[01:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:29] <mabus> fyrestrtr: well regardless, that happens when I try to open .bashrc. So I haven't edited it yet...
[01:29] <Nilvio> not work that site
[01:29] <Yaakov> fyrestrtr: Thanks for the pointer, I got a little closer but it is still not working.  I can invest just a bit more time into it, so I have some hope. :)
[01:30] <fyrestrtr> mabus: because, xterm-256color is not a valid value for TERM.
[01:30] <mabus> fyrestrtr: well, it works with elinks? :/
[01:31] <mabus> What's a solution that keeps elinks in color, and everything... functioning?
[01:31] <MistaED> fyrestrtr: alright i took notice of the menu.lst's #'d info, and found update-grub actually reads that stuff, i'm sort of automatically tuned to that programs would ignore anything which is commented out, but it seems to be not the case with this
[01:31] <unfknblvbl> @ everyone: thankyou very much for your help guys
[01:32] <MistaED> thanks boink and fyrestrtr ;)
[01:32] <botxj> your'e welcome
[01:32] <botxj> all are welcome
[01:32] <boink> :)
[01:32] <botxj> especially you boink
[01:32] <botxj> good job boink :)
[01:32] <boink> I'll give myself a medal :P
[01:32] <botxj> a penguin medal
[01:32] <MistaED> of epic proportions