[01:44] <Chousuke> xuniL_: wine?
[01:45] <xuniL_> yeah..
[01:45] <xuniL_> wine  emulator...
[01:45] <xuniL_> try again now with 5900...
[01:47] <Chousuke> hmm, now it did something
[01:47] <Chousuke> yay
[01:47] <xuniL_> hehe. :P
[01:47] <DexterF_> umm. ok, no one know about making my CRT go 1280@85?
[01:47] <xuniL_> laggy..
[01:48] <Chousuke> let's see.
[01:48] <Chousuke> hm :/
[01:48] <Chousuke> it broke
[01:48] <xuniL_> lol it krashed
[01:48] <xuniL_> krfb
[01:48] <Chousuke> :D
[01:48] <xuniL_> krashed
[01:48] <Chousuke> but hey, you got it to work.
[01:48] <xuniL_> you sould here my computer... then you conneted...
[01:48] <Chousuke> let's try again :p
[01:49] <irielion> my konsole fonts are really bad... happened after update, how can i fix this?
[01:49] <xuniL_> chousuke pm and i could send psw
[01:50] <xuniL_> lol my computer sounded like hell then you connected
[01:50] <Chousuke> ?)
[01:50] <xuniL_> the password you got was one time use....
[01:50] <xuniL_> hemligt
[01:51] <xuniL_> thats the psw
[01:51] <Chousuke> ok
[01:51] <coruja> irielion: you can change the fonts in konsole's preferences
[01:51] <azertyuuu> btw, how can i get acces to windowsfiles in Konqi, it says that i have ho rights
[01:52] <Chousuke> hnmm
[01:52] <xuniL_> ?
[01:52] <Chousuke> which of those is konqueror? :d
[01:52] <azertyuuu> konqueror
[01:52] <xuniL_> here you go :D
[01:52] <Chousuke> ah. ok :P
[01:52] <azertyuuu> can you help me
[01:53] <Chousuke> wtf.
[01:53] <Chousuke> that's interesting
[01:53] <xuniL_> thats the one i umounted
[01:53] <azertyuuu> how can i get acces to windowsfiles in Konqi, it says that i have no rights
[01:54] <Chousuke> interesting
[01:55] <iface> i am using the new kubuntu 5.10, but i can't find rar or unrar in multiverse nor universe? does anybody know where to get them?
[01:55] <Chousuke> argh
[01:56] <xuniL_> wtf...
[01:56] <xuniL_> working now---
[01:56] <Chousuke> yeah
[01:56] <xuniL_> k
[01:56] <Chousuke> so you can't access it properly from through the mounted hd's dir
[01:56] <Chousuke> but if you write the path manually it'll work
[01:56] <xuniL_> nod..
[01:57] <DexterF_> do I need voice in here?
[01:57] <coruja> iface: the packages are called unrar-free and unrar-nonfree, both in the breezy repos
[01:57] <xuniL_> okey..
[01:58] <buz> with connected usb2 drive, it wont load all modules but crashes
[01:58] <Chousuke> KDE looks kind of cool :)
[01:58] <xuniL_> heh...
[01:58] <buz> after unplugging it the installer worked
[01:58] <xuniL_> you run gnome?
[01:59] <libben> ok
[01:59] <Chousuke> xuniL_: yeah. Or well, would if I had ubuntu.
[01:59] <libben> what was this update manager?
[01:59] <libben> why not have it in adept?
[01:59] <Chousuke> KDE lacks some features I need.
[01:59] <libben> synaptic is just reload and mark all updates
[01:59] <xuniL_> k
[01:59] <libben> why a single program for this
[01:59] <buz> Chousuke: features like ?
[01:59] <Chousuke> buz: input modules.
[02:00] <xuniL_> my brother bought a powerbook a few weeks ago.. :D
[02:00] <Chousuke> buz: they will be introduced in QT 4
[02:00] <coruja> libben: as adept is rather new, i suppose there will be still some features to come in future...
[02:01] <coruja> and iirc there's no development of kynaptic anymore
[02:01] <Chousuke> I'll try installing KDE
[02:01] <Chousuke> it'll take a long time to compile though :/
[02:01] <xuniL_> heh
[02:02] <xuniL_> any one feel like vs in enemy-territory?
[02:03] <iface> coruja, unrar-nonfree is not in my list. which url must be added to responsities to get the packet?
[02:03] <iface> i will check if its there
[02:04] <xuniL_> how do i fix th mp3 problem?
[02:05] <iface> xuniL, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:05] <coruja> iface: maybe you haven't all sections enabled: main restricted universe multiverse
[02:05] <libben> xuniL_: make that urbanterror and u got a game =)
[02:06] <xuniL_> hmm i will download it then :_D
[02:06] <libben> its a quake3 mod =)
[02:06] <libben> so u need to install quake3 and then download urt
[02:06] <Chousuke> Can you play quake 3 mods even without the actual game? :D
[02:06] <Chousuke> the source is free.
[02:07] <libben> ;P
[02:07] <xuniL_> you can play enemy-terriory free..
[02:07] <Chousuke>  might go and download it
[02:08] <xuniL_> http://www.mrbass.org/enemyterritory/
[02:08] <libben> urbanterror was going to be ported to ET, but im not sure what has happend now when q3 source is free
[02:08] <xuniL_> for mac :D
[02:08] <iface> coruja, thx's a lot. i find it
[02:08] <iface> but it was very curious ...
[02:09] <Chousuke> TOASnet isn't even being slow today
[02:09] <Chousuke> able to DL 200kBps :P
[02:09] <Chousuke> and sometimes I even get as fast as 600kBps :o
[02:10] <Chousuke> but when people are warezing it's usually something like 20-30kBps
[02:12] <Chousuke> I wonder if a PB has enough power to run ET.
[02:12] <Chousuke> The HD might cause troule.
[02:12] <Chousuke> trouble*
[02:12] <nikkia> Chousuke: i think the OSX version runs on a PB 'ok', but i dunno if there is a PPC version for linux
[02:13] <Chousuke> I'm running OS X now anyway. :)
[02:13] <Chousuke> Have to try Ubuntu when my breezy CDs arerive though.
[02:13] <Chousuke> arrive.
[02:14] <xuniL_> what pb du uoi have?
[02:15] <Chousuke> an older model. 1.33GHz, 1.25GB of RAM and GeForce FX 5200 Go 64MB (or something)
[02:15] <xuniL_> pb do you have?
[02:15] <xuniL_> ok
[02:16] <xuniL_> the only problem would be the prosessor
[02:16] <NeedHelp> Hi, Can You help me? I dont know How to play An mp3 with kubuntu. Im using the 5.10 version!
[02:17] <libben> NeedHelp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:18] <xuniL_> et roxx
[02:18] <NeedHelp> Thanks, I'm watching
[02:18] <xuniL_> i had a UT2004 key too but it got baned...
[02:19] <NeedHelp> Hey, help me Libben
[02:20] <NeedHelp> i've seen but it says the packet is obsolet
[02:20] <NeedHelp> it says it's too old !
[02:21] <_ubuntu> lulu
[02:21] <jpatrick> lo
[02:22] <_ubuntu> francais ?
[02:22] <jpatrick> non
[02:22] <azertyuuu> hey all , how can i have permission to acces /mnt/windows in kubuntu ???
[02:23] <libben> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[02:23] <jpatrick> libben: not the guide :o
[02:23] <libben> xuniL_: do u have problems when gaming?
[02:24] <xuniL_> just played a litle yesterday... but no...
[02:24] <xuniL_> not then..
[02:24] <xuniL_> just that i have to run it as root :D
[02:24] <jpatrick> xuniL_: sudo -s
[02:24] <libben> thats really wrong
[02:24] <libben> u shouldent run games as root
[02:24] <jpatrick> yeah
[02:24] <libben> then u made something wrong
[02:24] <bsd3> Hi, Friends!
[02:24] <libben> but anyhow
[02:25] <Chousuke> one possible solution: add yourself to the video group :P
[02:25] <xuniL_> i will take a look again... at it
[02:25] <Chousuke> please note this is guessing the problem :P
[02:25] <bsd3> I have installed Kubuntu from an ISO image mouted on to another machine via netboot
[02:25] <libben> i have some problems with quake3... i cant get console to dropdown... and only solution to this is to have us keyboard layout before i boot the game
[02:26] <Chousuke> But hmm
[02:26] <xuniL_> well i cant get down the console ... but i write all i need in my config.cfg
[02:26] <Chousuke> It'll be cool when technology advances so much you can play first-person shooters over VNC
[02:26] <Chousuke> or a similar technology.
[02:27] <xuniL_> then no one would be doing work at work..
[02:27] <Chousuke> then I could just keep machines in my closet and use them all with my main desktop machine.
[02:28] <bobbyd> Chousuke, have you seen nxclient?
[02:28] <Chousuke> hmm, no.
[02:29] <bobbyd> Chousuke, the nomachine stuff is amaxing compared to vnc for X
[02:29] <bobbyd> it does audio and video
[02:29] <bobbyd> over a lan, 3d is pretty good too
[02:29] <Chousuke> heh.
[02:31] <Chousuke> I'll install that on my parent's machine
[02:31] <bobbyd> it's also great over a modem
[02:31] <bobbyd> so much better than vnc
[02:31] <bobbyd> but it's only for connecting to machines running X
[02:31] <libben> what do i need to be able to see all media contents on sites with firefox?
[02:32] <libben> i have mozila-player plugin
[02:32] <libben> but that blanks on me sometimes.
[02:32] <libben> it gets to 99% and then never shows the video
[02:34] <jpatrick> libben: the "guidance control thingy" is in System Settings
[02:35] <libben> jpatrick: system settings == guidance control? or is it a thing in system settings. cause i dont have a icon called that =)
[02:36] <jpatrick> libben: No guidance control are modules for System Settings
[02:36] <jpatrick> or KControl
[02:36] <libben> yeah, so all the things in system settings are guidance control
[02:36] <xuniL_> libben dident need to run ET with root any more
[02:37] <jpatrick> libben: the modules are Storage Media, Users & Groups, and Disk and Filesystems
[02:37] <libben> ooh.. k. then i know =)
[02:38] <jpatrick> libben: I don't know why Adept is not on the menu..
[02:38] <libben> jpatrick: ur reading from the forums ill take it ?
[02:38] <jpatrick> libben: yep :)
[02:38] <xuniL_> okey i needed root acess
[02:38] <libben> well i got it fixed
[02:38] <libben> i kbuildsycoca it =)
[02:38] <xuniL_> :/
[02:39] <gath> hello, i installed the new version (breezy) yet
[02:39] <jpatrick> okay
[02:39] <gath> but i have some problems to install some kde-programs over apt
[02:39] <xuniL_> libben i installed it in /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/
[02:39] <gath> i always get some errors
[02:40] <libben> xuniL_: im not the one to ask for help when it gets to permissions and why is what =)
[02:40] <libben> cause im not good at perms
[02:40] <xuniL_> okey libben
[02:41] <xuniL_> i will ask chousuke
[02:41] <jpatrick> libben: what's kbuildsycoca?
[02:41] <xuniL_> chousuke aint ET installed in right path (/usr/local/games/enemy-territory/)
[02:41] <Chousuke> that should work
[02:41] <gath> some packages depends on: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.0)  or  libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3)
[02:41] <xuniL_> well i need permissions for that place
[02:41] <gath> what`s wrong? anybody can help?
[02:41] <jpatrick> xuniL_: no
[02:41] <xuniL_> ?
[02:42] <jpatrick> xuniL_: unless you want to edit it
[02:42] <xuniL_> well i whant...
[02:42] <xuniL_> i need to..
[02:42] <xuniL_> to download mapps exc
[02:43] <xuniL_> i will change it..
[02:43] <Chousuke> hmm
[02:43] <xuniL_> or shouldent i?
[02:43] <Chousuke> put sticky bit on it.
[02:43] <Chousuke> +s
[02:44] <libben> rebuilds the system configuration cache
[02:44] <Chousuke> or whatever that was.
[02:44] <libben> and i needed to fix the user also
[02:44] <libben> it was root on it, needed to be user
[02:44] <libben> and voila, now the menu works
[02:45] <jpatrick> xuniL_: can't you put the maps in your home dir?
[02:45] <gath> is there anybody here, who had an correct sources-list?
[02:45] <xuniL_> well then if i had other users not being able to use...
[02:45] <apokryphos> gath: hoary?
[02:45] <gath> breezy
[02:46] <apokryphos> gath: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[02:46] <libben> gath: check the breezy guid
[02:46] <gath> where should i past what?
[02:48] <gath> kann anybody send me a correkt sources.lst over DCC ?
[02:48] <libben> gath: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[02:48] <jpatrick> gath: copy that text into your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:49] <gath> on the end of the list?
[02:49] <jpatrick> overwrite
[02:49] <libben> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:49] <libben> gath: check there also
[02:54] <Chousuke> xuniL_: you can also change the dir owner to root:games, then give the group write privileges, and add users to that grou
[02:54] <Chousuke> group
[02:54] <xuniL_> k
[02:54] <xuniL_> i did it my way:D
[02:56] <xuniL_> got it crashing now... yay.... :(
[02:57] <xuniL_> cant move my mouse..
[02:57] <xuniL_> and just can see half of my console
[02:57] <gath> libben: while the upgrade my computer hangs
[02:57] <gath> on installing gstreamer0.8..............
[02:57] <gath> what to do?
[02:59] <Phantom^^> can someone help me mount a hard disk using the kubuntu live cd
[03:00] <Chousuke> hmm
[03:00] <Chousuke> I can't make NX work :/
[03:00] <Chousuke> says "no protocol specified"
[03:00] <xuniL_> bhaa..
[03:00] <xuniL_> now i got ET chrashed
[03:05] <gath> hallo, can`t make the breezy update and upgrade
[03:05] <gath> get some errors:
[03:05] <gath> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:05] <gath> what`s wrong?
[03:06] <jpatrick> gath: do "kdesu ksysguard"
[03:06] <gath> ok
[03:06] <jpatrick> should be a process called "apt" - kill it
[03:07] <gath> ok, one process killed
[03:07] <NeedHelp> Hi, can someone explain me how to PLay mp3 in kubunut?
[03:07] <NeedHelp> *kubuntu
[03:08] <_olwin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ;)
[03:08] <apokryphos> install gstreamer0.8-mad and akode-mpeg
[03:08] <jpatrick> NeedHelp: install gstreamer0.8-mad from universe
[03:08] <NeedHelp> what's universe?
[03:08] <apokryphos> a repository -- for information on the differences of repos, /msg ubotu components
[03:09] <NeedHelp> :kornbluth.freenode.net 505 NeedHelp :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register!
[03:09] <gath> next error: W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release:
[03:09] <gath> BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:09] <gath> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:09] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: I'm sure you can guess what to do
[03:09] <apokryphos> gath: please don't flood in here
[03:10] <NeedHelp> lol ok ;)
[03:10] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: /msg nickserv register PASSWORD
[03:11] <gath> what to do?
[03:11] <[CC] Punkrock> hey
[03:12] <NeedHelp>  /msg nickserv register 2890
[03:13] <jpatrick> haha
[03:13] <[CC] Punkrock> lol
[03:13] <xuniL_> damn almost full cpu...
[03:13] <xuniL_> average 100%
[03:14] <[CC] Punkrock> can anyone send me the netboot files for kubuntu 5.10? mine seem to be corrupt (checksum error and they're 0 bytes large...)
[03:14] <apokryphos> gath: try doing what it says
[03:14] <[CC] Punkrock> i've already redownloaded but it gives the same error
[03:14] <gath> apokryphos: what the text says?
[03:14] <[CC] Punkrock> the pxelinux.cfg and the pxelinux.0 file is all i need
[03:14] <apokryphos> gath: yup
[03:14] <gath> apokryphos: dpkg........?
[03:14] <gath> i never do this before
[03:15] <apokryphos> so?
[03:15] <xuniL_> damn... to big lagg
[03:15] <apokryphos> xuniL_: what's taking it all up?
[03:16] <xuniL_> amarokapp...
[03:16] <xuniL_> (amarok)
[03:16] <gath> apokryphos: ok make dpkg --configure -a
[03:16] <apokryphos> gath: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:16] <gath> but my computer hangs on on this step
[03:16] <xuniL_> but if i pause it and enter like Et i laggs any way..
[03:16] <apokryphos> xuniL_: ouch; what version?
[03:16] <xuniL_> 3.4.3
[03:16] <apokryphos> a few have reported that problem too; sounds like a memory leak. I thought it had been fixed...
[03:16] <xuniL_> sorry wrong
[03:16] <gath> i know in the root modus
[03:17] <libben> how do i start katapult ?
[03:17] <libben> cause it dont get started when i type katapult
[03:17] <xuniL_> its 1.3.1
[03:17] <[CC] Punkrock> Cant anyone help me?
[03:17] <gath> apokryphos: it has some problems to install gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec ein (0.8.11-0ubuntu5)
[03:17] <apokryphos> !tell libben about katapult
[03:18] <mrmarcel> hallo
[03:18] <gath> apokryphos: and the pc hangs on this step
[03:18] <apokryphos> are you actually going to use that package?
[03:18] <xuniL_> apokryphos is it that version?
[03:18] <apokryphos> what?
[03:19] <gath> i don`t know, maybe for mp3?
[03:19] <apokryphos> no, for mp3s you need gstreamer0.8-mad and akode-mpeg
[03:19] <gath> maybe i don`t need it
[03:19] <gath> so how i can delete it?
[03:19] <xuniL_> are the version of amarok 1.3.1 the one with memory leak?
[03:20] <libben> k
[03:20] <apokryphos> seems like it does potentially have one
[03:20] <apokryphos> 1.3.3 is the latest amarok release..
[03:20] <xuniL_> k
[03:20] <apokryphos> (memory link in the packaged amaroK.. not sure if the actual amaroK did)
[03:20] <xuniL_> k
[03:20] <apokryphos> Riddell: build-dep for amarok fails -- shall I bugreport?
[03:20] <NeedHelp> apokrysphos: Please help me, i am reading the guide, but it's for Ubuntu and i have kubuntu!
[03:21] <libben> katapult seems fine, but why not just do the same to alt+f2 ? if i understand this right katapult just getting the env variable to be able to quick type the programs, as in shell, but there u hit tab to complete the started word
[03:21] <xuniL_> needhelp its the same
[03:21] <apokryphos> libben: it's a lot more than that
[03:21] <Riddell> apokryphos: what's the fail?
[03:21] <NeedHelp> xuniL Ubuntu uses synaptic!
[03:22] <jpatrick> libben: katapult rocks!
[03:22] <apokryphos> Riddell: doesn't even mention it, which is annoying
[03:22] <libben> u think?
[03:22] <libben> its big and bloated =)
[03:22] <jpatrick> how?
[03:22] <libben> but it has what i miss in alt+f2
[03:22] <apokryphos> bloated -- how exactly? Seems really lightweight to me
[03:23] <jpatrick> yeah
[03:23] <libben> why not integrate the function of tab completion or program completion on what u type. as in katapult
[03:23] <libben> when i say bloated i mean the big icons and all the gui for what its doing
[03:23] <Riddell> apokryphos: works for me
[03:23] <libben> why is not alt f2 do the same as katapult for example
[03:23] <libben> that would rock
[03:24] <gath> apokryphos: can you help, please?
[03:24] <apokryphos> Riddell: weird; I get a plain E: Build-dependencies for amarok could not be satisfied.
[03:24] <apokryphos> gath: not without knowing the problem
[03:24] <jpatrick> libben: Katapult can look thought folders and bookmarks
[03:24] <Riddell> apokryphos: what do you do to get that?
[03:24] <apokryphos> Riddell: sudo apt-get build-dep amarok
[03:25] <libben> oooh.. just noticed the folder thing
[03:25] <[CC] Punkrock> Can anyone send me netboot files "pxelinux.0 "and "pxelinux.cfg" for Kubuntu 5.10 (amd64) please? they are corrupted according to my md5
[03:25] <NeedHelp> /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[03:25] <libben> well its nice. but a bit big... it would be fine if it was in alt f2, that would rock
[03:26] <hussam> is it possible to display emails in kmail in threaded view?
[03:26] <apokryphos> -V is as useful as ever ;-)
[03:26] <gath> apokryphos: the problem with dpkg --configure -a
[03:26] <Riddell> apokryphos: definatly works for me
[03:26] <jpatrick> libben: I think Tenor will replace it
[03:27] <apokryphos> weird -- can anyone else try sudo apt-get build-dep amarok  on breezy? Don't have to go through with the download, just see if it cops out
[03:27] <NeedHelp> how to enable universe?
[03:27] <gath> apokryphos: afer starting my computer hangs on installing gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec
[03:27] <federico> Hello everybody! I updated yesterday from Hoary to Breezy (did a new install), but it seems as if the Konqueror View Profiles like they used to be on Hoary disappeared? Wether I use Konqueror to surf the web or browse through the filesystem, it all looks the same, no folder tree etc in file system view. Is there a clean way to reimplement all those profiles (or how it is called?)? Google didn't give any useful answers (yet). Thanks in advance for you
[03:27] <apokryphos> gath: remove that gstreamer package as you're not using it
[03:27] <gath> and how?
[03:28] <apokryphos> gath: sudo aptitude remove gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec
[03:29] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the repos with "Universe"
[03:30] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: or if you're on breezy just use adept for it
[03:30] <gath> apokryphos: ok i did this
[03:30] <gath> apokryphos: (aptitude remove gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec)
[03:30] <gath> apokryphos: but the same problem
[03:30] <apokryphos> what does it say?
[03:31] <gath> the computer hang on installing gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec
[03:31] <NeedHelp> apokryphos breezy is the last release of kubuntu? the 5.10?
[03:31] <apokryphos> yes
[03:31] <NeedHelp> Thanks
[03:31] <gath> apokryphos: Richte gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec ein (0.8.11-0ubuntu5) ..
[03:31] <apokryphos> gath: did the aptitude remove go ok without errors?
[03:32] <gath> apokryphos: and on this point, the computer hangs
[03:32] <NeedHelp> apokryphos: i am in Adept.. But i don't Find Universe XD
[03:32] <Riddell> federico: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[03:32] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: Universe is a repository (for more information on the repo differences, /msg ubotu components). Go to Adept -> Manage Repositories
[03:32] <federico> Riddell: thank you, I'll take a look at it!
[03:32] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: enable the lines with "universe"
[03:33] <NeedHelp> :apokryphos thanks, i'll do
[03:33] <gath> apokryphos: get this error message:
[03:33] <gath> E: Konnte Lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock nicht bekommen - open (11 Die Ressource ist zur Zeit nicht verfgbar)
[03:33] <apokryphos> Riddell: would be cool to have bullets at the top linking to the afaqs below I think 8)
[03:34] <apokryphos> gath: you should have mentioned that -- always mention errors in a process. Why aren't you adding the sudo before the aptitude remove?
[03:34] <Riddell> apokryphos: patches welcome :)
[03:34] <apokryphos> will do
[03:34] <gath> apokryphos: i`m always in the root modus
[03:34] <Riddell> federico: let me know if it works by the way, I only just wrote that
[03:35] <gath> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:35] <hussam> Should I stick to Krita 1.4.1 that shipped with breezy or do I upgrade to 1.4.2 from kubuntu.org?
[03:35] <apokryphos> gath: ok, then close any synaptic/apt/adept processes
[03:35] <Riddell> anyone have IE able to tell me how kubuntu.org looks on it?
[03:35] <apokryphos> gath: and you shouldn't always be in root mode
[03:35] <jairbubbles> hi all
[03:35] <Riddell> hussam: upgrading should fix more things than it breaks
[03:35] <jairbubbles> everyone experiencing problems with amarok ?
[03:35] <apokryphos> jairbubbles: cpu running up?
[03:35] <gath> apokryphos: only in the bash for update and upgrade
[03:36] <jairbubbles> apokryphos: no, can't launch it
[03:36] <apokryphos> gath: make sure no apt-related things are running
[03:36] <apokryphos> jairbubbles: what's the error?
[03:36] <jairbubbles> apokryphos: amaroK: [Loader]  amarokapp probably crashed!
[03:36] <hussam> Riddell: ok thanks I'll upgrade to Krita 1.4.2 fro breezy.
[03:36] <apokryphos> jairbubbles: :/. 1.3.1?
[03:36] <hussam> Riddell:  for* breezy.
[03:37] <jairbubbles> apokryphos: yes, the weird thing is that it was working fine until i reboot
[03:38] <the_low> acpi on ibm thinkpad t23: is there any way to run a script when the machine wakes up from suspen to ram? google is not much of a help there.
[03:38] <gath> apokryphos: ok i restart the computer
[03:38] <NeedHelp> apokryphos: ok! i have enabled universe, now how to listen mp3?
[03:39] <apokryphos> jairbubbles: close all instances of amarok, then try mv ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrcold
[03:39] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: install akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:40] <vicks> Riddell: the mouseovereffects on the tabs looks a bit funny in IE, they flicker in the same blue color as the background when you move over and then they go back to looking like normal (not the mouseover state). my english is a bit sluggish, hope you understand what i meant
[03:43] <_aj> hi people
[03:43] <jairbubbles> apokryphos: remove/reinstall deleting amarokrc, no change !
[03:43] <hussam> is there anyway to block ads in konqueror like in firefox's adblock?
[03:44] <[CC] Punkrock> Can anyone send me netboot files "pxelinux.0 "and "pxelinux.cfg" for Kubuntu 5.10 (amd64) please? they are corrupted according to my md5
[03:44] <NeedHelp> apokryphos: IT WORKS!! thanks a lot ;)
[03:44] <jpatrick> hussam: In KDE 3.5 B1 yes
[03:44] <apokryphos> jairbubbles: is there really no other output from the terminal?
[03:45] <apokryphos> NeedHelp: np =)
[03:45] <jairbubbles> apokryphos: juste before, amaroK: [Loader]  Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.
[03:45] <hussam> jpatrick: but not in 3.4.3, right?
[03:45] <apokryphos> hm, nah, that's fine
[03:45] <apokryphos> I recall that crash being a known error; I thought it was fixed though..
[03:45] <jpatrick> hussam: don't think so
[03:45] <apokryphos> jairbubbles: checked bugzilla?
[03:45] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:46] <Riddell> vicks: ok, thanks
[03:46] <Riddell> vicks: anything else look funny?
[03:47] <freeflying> which is the best under kde to manager pictures in a DC
[03:48] <vicks> Riddell: the layout seem to be ok. oh, the kubuntu-logo on the wiki-frontpage doesn't have transparency
[03:49] <Riddell> vicks: wiki frontpage?
[03:49] <jairbubbles> apokryphos: nothing on bugzilla ....
[03:49] <vicks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu
[03:49] <Riddell> vicks: oh the kubuntu logo, well I'm not fixing that, that file needs transparency
[03:50] <Riddell> vicks: thanks for your help
[03:50] <vicks> np
[03:52] <Sho_> freeflying: Digikam
[03:53] <freeflying> it dosen't works so well
[04:04] <xtacocorex> anyone have the lexmark z600 driver? the link in the howto on the forums isn't working
[04:11] <server> Q: Is there any GUI based FTP servers for linux, or GUI frontends for proftpd or any other common ftp server?
[04:15] <`Nomad> server: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gproftpd/
[04:15] <apokryphos> Riddell: http://giannaros.org/one.patch
[04:15] <paelscrit> yea the download.lexmark site seems down
[04:17] <apokryphos> Riddell: whoop, did the patch wrongly; refresh ;-)
[04:17] <xtacocorex> paelscrit: i'm trying one of the default ones on the os now just to see if it works
[04:18] <xtacocorex> paelscrit: it's initializing, but not feeding paper
[04:18] <Riddell> apokryphos: diff -u please
[04:18] <Riddell> diff without -u is ugly ugly
[04:19] <apokryphos> Riddell: ok, done
[04:19] <Freizeitkoch> [x]  5.10 done ;-)
[04:24] <federico> Hello everybody ... is there a way to get Konqueror to look in Breezy like it did in Hoary when browsing the file system, surfing and so on? The things described on http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php don't work, and I've got a mess now in Konqueror, even the url field disappeared, is there anything I can do? Thanks for your help
[04:26] <[CC] Punkrock> Can anyone send me netboot files "pxelinux.0 "and "pxelinux.cfg" for Kubuntu 5.10 (amd64) please? they are corrupted according to my md5
[04:26] <[CC] Punkrock> 0bytes large
[04:26] <[CC] Punkrock> md5 says the .cfg/default doesnt exist and that the pxelinux.0's checksum doesnt match
[04:27] <Riddell> apokryphos: changes in, many thanks
[04:27] <Phantom^^> Hey can someone help me set up an nvidia graphics card
[04:41] <m_tadeu> hello....I have 2 kernel versions and the kubuntu boot splash only shows up when I boot on the most recent...how do I set it to apear in all?
[04:41] <abbas> does any way ton install java runtime plugins for mozilla
[04:42] <Blissex> m_tadeu: use some nice frontend to add the other kernel to the GRUB or LILO config...
[04:42] <Blissex> m_tadeu: if both your kernel versions are from a precompiled package they should both be in the menu though. If you add a kernel version manually compiled you need to manually add it to the GRUB or LILO menu files.
[04:43] <NeedHelp> Can someone help me about installing a software?
[04:43] <abbas> does any way ton install java runtime plugins for mozilla ?
[04:44] <m_tadeu> Blissex: they are...the boot splash that shows up is from ubuntu, and not from kubuntu
[04:45] <m_tadeu> Blissex: drawbacks from upgrading from kubuntu 5.1 preview
[04:46] <NeedHelp> I need help: How to install Skype?
[04:47] <APalmela> hello
[04:47] <APalmela> can anyone help me configure a priner in Kubuntu 5.10 ?
[04:48] <APalmela> I configured it but when i order to print a test page nothing appens
[04:48] <APalmela> does anyone have the same problem ?
[04:49] <Blissex> m_tadeu: Uhm. Well, for the boot splash, there is a nice page on that in the Kubuntu Wiki somewhere.
[04:53] <m_tadeu> Blissex: oki...thanx
[04:53] <murr> is there some package that includes small games for kde (or something)?
[04:54] <Sho_> murr: kdegames
[04:55] <murr> Sho_: ok, thanks
[04:55] <Sho_> murr: I enjoy playing Kolf, the minigolf game ;)
[04:55] <NeedHelp> ora chiedi ott
[04:56] <H2O> i need help on adept package manager
[04:56] <murr> Sho_, :)
[04:56] <H2O> i need help
[04:57] <H2O> can anyone help me out with packages?
[04:58] <H2O> i can't succesfully fetch the updates because it stops on 50%
[04:59] <H2O> waiting for headers
[04:59] <H2O> and it stops there, waiting along for the headers
[05:00] <H2O> can anyone help me out for this problem?
[05:00] <H2O> ...
[05:01] <H2O> i can't succesfully fetch the updates because it stops waiting for headers can anyone help me out for this problem?
[05:05] <Sho_> H2O: It's probably a problem with the download mirrors, just retry a little later?
[05:05] <H2O> i don't know
[05:06] <H2O> it stops there without life signal
[05:07] <Sho_> H2O: I suggest waiting half an hour and then trying again
[05:07] <H2O> ok but i have enabled all the universe and multivers servers
[05:08] <H2O> and it keeps maintain in this state
[05:08] <Sho_> H2O: Well, the servers might have a problem, or it's not related to the servers but a networking issue between you and them, etc. ... lots of possible failure points for a network connection :)
[05:08] <H2O> so i must wait a while?
[05:09] <H2O> my internet connection works well i see ^^'''
[05:09] <H2O> ok i will wait so... thanks for the help
[05:10] <H2O> thanks really a lot
[05:10] <Sho_> Well, I hope you have more success later :)
[05:10] <H2O> i couldn't figure out why it stopped
[05:10] <H2O> i hope it so! i hope it >.<
[05:11] <NeedHelp><PHONE_NUMBER>11111111111111111111111111111
[05:11] <NeedHelp><PHONE_NUMBER>11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[05:11] <H2O> -.-
[05:11] <NeedHelp> la faccina 11
[05:11] <H2O> l'hai detto te di non insultare
[05:11] <NeedHelp> Sorry 4 the spam
[05:12] <H2O> ah lol
[05:19] <Eno_> i have two questions about beagle. first, when i access http://localhost:8888/beagle/search.aspx i get "Server error in '/beagle' application" "Description: Error processing request.". second, using best, when i click on the links from the results, nothing happens.
[05:19] <Eno_> how can i fix this?
[05:19] <Eno_> by the way, kubuntu is very nice, i just installed it :)
[05:20] <murr> how can i make the desktop icons smaller?
[05:20] <puckman> in kubuntu?
[05:21] <murr> no, in solaris ;)
[05:21] <puckman> oh, dont know then
[05:21] <puckman> but in kubuntu
[05:21] <puckman> its in settings
[05:21] <murr> :D
[05:21] <murr> ofcourse in kubuntu =)
[05:21] <jpatrick> under "Icons"
[05:21] <puckman> appearance
[05:21] <puckman> advanced
[05:21] <puckman> and then icons
[05:22] <puckman> man I'm sooo in love with KDE
[05:22] <puckman> Can't believe I used Gnome for so many months just  because people told me to
[05:22] <puckman> should have gone with my first choice
[05:22] <H2O> lol
[05:22] <Eno_> i was a gnome user as well
[05:22] <Eno_> at first...
[05:23] <Eno_> so no one knows about beagle?
[05:23] <puckman> it makes more sense
[05:23] <puckman> and fits a LOT better on a small 12" screen
[05:24] <murr> puckman, thanks
[05:24] <puckman> I also like the mail client, have to figure out how to get my old mail from thunderbird over
[05:24] <murr> one more question though: is there an easy way to take a screenshot?
[05:24] <puckman> as i dont want to run two mail clients
[05:24] <Hobart_> 2 quick questions... on a Mac laptop, how does a default kubuntu do middleclick and rightclick with the touchpad?
[05:25] <puckman> good question, i want to do that too
[05:25] <Eno_> ksnapshot
[05:25] <Eno_> ctrl f2, ksnapshot
[05:25] <Hobart_> Next, how do I paste multiple text lines from Konsole into Konversation? :)
[05:25] <murr> Eno_: ahh.. thanks :)
[05:25] <Eno_> it should really be bound to print-screen
[05:27] <jpatrick> Eno_: you can do Alt-Printscreen or Ctrl-Printscreen
[05:27] <adamt> is it possible to get kubuntus systems settings for other distroes?
[05:27] <puckman> ctrl print screen does nothing for me
[05:27] <jpatrick> and paste it to any image editor
[05:28] <adamt> why not just use ksnapshot for screenshots
[05:28] <Sho_> adamt: Sure, you could copy its rc files and set up the paths on $your_distro
[05:28] <puckman> yeah, just tried it, works sweet
[05:29] <puckman> would be nice to be able to invoke it with a shortcut
[05:29] <adamt> Sho_: no no, not the settings itself, but this; http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=470&slide=47
[05:29] <Sho_> ah, the app
[05:29] <adamt> yes
[05:29] <Sho_> thought you meant the profiles, toolbar setups, etc.
[05:29] <adamt> kinda a bad name :P
[05:30] <tilo2345> hello, is there by default a /root directory in kubuntu?
[05:30] <H2O> i have to ask a question
[05:30] <Sho_> tilo2345: The FAQ in the topic should have something on root in Kubuntu
[05:30] <Eno_> tilo2345: there is /root
[05:30] <adamt> H2O: just ask instead of asking if you can ask :P
[05:31] <tilo2345> thanks!
[05:31] <Sho_> adamt: Sorry, I'm not sure about the heritage of the Systems Settings app ... but then I also don't like it and switched back to KControl pretty fast
[05:31] <H2O> what i have to do if the fetch update request keeps stop
[05:32] <puckman> hey, does anyone know why the network settings icon is so low res?
[05:32] <apokryphos> Sho_: what don't you like about it?
[05:32] <puckman> its the only one
[05:32] <puckman> I noticed it in 3 different versions of kubuntu now
[05:32] <Sho_> apokryphos: I find it cumbersome to go forth and back between modules - I prefer the hierarchy treeview on the left. Also, the app seems pretty rough around the edges, e.g. loading other modules keeps changing the window geometry, which is super-annoying
[05:34] <apokryphos> I agree to an extent, though even in kcontrol these days I use icon mode
[05:34] <Sho_> apokryphos: Granted, KControl has its own share of problems, but the version in 3.5 without the tabs and the quicksearch at the top is pretty nice
[05:35] <apokryphos> kcontrol was recognised as "an issue" quite long ago, but they've only started doing something about it recently it seems
[05:35] <Sho_> yeah, I know
[05:35] <Sho_> System Settings seems like a copy of Mac OS X' System Preferences, which I really don't like very much either
[05:36] <Sho_> But I'm not complaining - I have a choice, after all :-)
[05:38] <balooo> does  anybody know if the  kubuntu  live dvd  for ppc contain  the  application kstars ,  thanks
[05:39] <murr> how can i play mp3's on amaroK?
[05:39] <jpatrick> murr: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:40] <jpatrick> in universe
[05:40] <murr> ok thanks
[05:42] <murr> yep, works now :) thanks a lot
[05:42] <rai0d> hi
[05:42] <jpatrick> hello
[05:44] <rai0d> this rare problem
[05:44] <rai0d> this the the no mount (auto) the usb hds
[05:44] <Sho_> rai0d: Known bug. Fix soon.
[05:45] <rai0d> aaha
[05:47] <H2O> is sho online?
[05:47] <Sho_> H2O: Hm?
[05:47] <H2O> hear here
[05:47] <H2O> when the os boots
[05:48] <H2O> i read every time that the syncro eith the server time fails
[05:48] <H2O> it's the only thing that fails at the kubuntu's boot time
[05:48] <H2O> is a problem with the connection?
[05:49] <H2O> i think that this failure is linked with the other problem of fetching updates
[05:50] <H2O> cause another my friend has updated withoutproblem right now
[05:50] <H2O> and we are in the same nation with the same dns
[05:51] <Sho_> H2O: Yeah, that sounds like a problem with your internet connection
[05:51] <H2O> but i surf on the net without problems
[05:51] <Sho_> Hmm
[05:51] <H2O> i can connect to any existing site
[05:52] <puckman> so dns problems then
[05:53] <H2O> and i must wait ?_?
[05:54] <puckman> lol, sorry.
[05:54] <puckman> have you tried another dns server?
[05:54] <H2O> no cause i can't do it
[05:54] <puckman> ?
[05:54] <H2O> i can't try another host
[05:54] <puckman> not with you there
[05:55] <puckman> you can enter manualy a dns number
[05:55] <H2O> i'm not connected via adsl modem
[05:55] <H2O> but router line
[05:55] <puckman> yes so am I
[05:56] <puckman> I have an alternative dns server entry and that works
[05:56] <H2O> mh
[05:56] <H2O> but the strange is
[05:57] <Sho_> H2O: Just put another open DNS server in your /etc/resolv.conf and you'll be fine
[05:57] <puckman> yes
[05:57] <puckman> http://soa.granitecanyon.com/
[05:57] <H2O> that another friend with my equal parameters (router line, same dns and same nation) and he worked with fetch as well
[05:58] <puckman> Sorry I'm confused here, I stepped in half way.
[05:58] <puckman> you are both connected to the same router
[05:58] <puckman> annd have the same settings
[05:58] <puckman> he is fine and you're not?
[05:58] <H2O> nono
[05:58] <H2O> we aren't connected to the same router
[05:59] <H2O> but we have the same components at home
[05:59] <puckman> that means nothing
[05:59] <H2O> and in this case, the same ISP
[05:59] <wincide> hi all
[05:59] <puckman> still nothing
[05:59] <H2O> so where is tha prob
[05:59] <puckman> could be at the exchange
[05:59] <puckman> let me get this straight
[05:59] <AMIGrAve> I tried to install kubuntu on my parent's computer, there was some free space at the end of the disk but I didn't knew the bios was too old to handle read access at the end of the disk. Result: after kubuntu installation I got grub error 18. I tried to fix the mbr using the windows xp recovery crap without success. Is it possible to restore the mbr using kubuntu install disk ?
[06:00] <puckman> computer, ethernet cable
[06:00] <puckman> to a router and the router goes where?
[06:00] <H2O> adsl line
[06:00] <puckman> ok
[06:00] <puckman> the adsl line goes to a circuit at the local telephone exchange
[06:01] <puckman> and they can have a fuckup there
[06:01] <puckman> I had that a few months back
[06:01] <puckman> isp refused to admit it
[06:01] <wincide> i m looking for a way to boot ostiger with grub , but i can't,.. someone who did it ??
[06:01] <H2O> ok puckman
[06:01] <H2O> i will consider it
[06:01] <H2O> but i don't have internet connection problem
[06:01] <puckman> but I insisted, they checked and found out the exhange had a fault
[06:02] <puckman> so, in the meantime I used an open dns server
[06:02] <puckman> which worked, slightly slower
[06:02] <troth> hey i need help, my webcam is showing as my output sound and mty soundcard as my input, i forget the shell commands to fix
[06:02] <puckman> one sec, will give you an address to try
[06:02] <H2O> k
[06:03] <H2O> i wanted only to install the mp3 codec for amarok
[06:03] <H2O> and wine
[06:03] <H2O> by the packages
[06:06] <puckman> try, <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:06] <puckman> cant find an open one but thats mine
[06:06] <H2O> ok
[06:06] <puckman> well, my isp
[06:07] <MegaManX> Hi all :). I need a little help with a fresh install of Kubuntu. I've another computer that I use as a file server running Debian sarge. In that machine, I have Samba properly configured. I can access my files and play them on the fly with my Windows machine or my Xbox. However, from Kubuntu, I can't play my shares locally. I've to copy, say, a mp3 and run it from my Kubuntu machine/partition. How do I fix that?
[06:07] <H2O> i have to restart the connection
[06:07] <H2O> i will get back if the op goes on
[06:07] <H2O> thanx anyway
[06:08] <puckman> no problems
[06:08] <puckman> i hope it works
[06:08] <H2O> country?
[06:08] <puckman> me?
[06:08] <H2O> ye
[06:08] <puckman> uk but originaly from holland
[06:08] <puckman> and soon japan
[06:08] <puckman> :P
[06:08] <H2O> lol we are europeans then
[06:08] <puckman> u?
[06:09] <H2O> ITA
[06:09] <puckman> cool
[06:09] <puckman> i use one of your words a LOT
[06:09] <puckman> ciao
[06:09] <puckman> Love that one
[06:09] <H2O> lol ciao
[06:09] <H2O> like hello
[06:09] <H2O> :P
[06:09] <puckman> i thought it was goodbye
[06:09] <puckman> or see ya later
[06:09] <puckman> doh
[06:09] <H2O> yes it means it too
[06:09] <puckman> ah
[06:09] <troth> like aloha........
[06:09] <puckman> wow, bye and hi
[06:09] <H2O> goodbye= arrivederci  or   addio
[06:10] <H2O> cya later = ci vediamo  or ciao
[06:10] <puckman> lol, so its like YO
[06:10] <puckman> you can say that in greeting and parting
[06:10] <H2O> yeah
[06:10] <H2O> just like that ;)
[06:11] <H2O> i've been in canterbury for one week
[06:11] <puckman> and loving it
[06:11] <puckman> canterbury?
[06:11] <H2O> yeah nice place canterbury
[06:11] <puckman> never been there, stuck in london for the last 10 years
[06:11] <H2O> london is a rush hour city :D
[06:11] <puckman> cant wait to join my fiancee in japan next year
[06:11] <puckman> yup
[06:12] <troth> hey i need help, my webcam is showing as my output sound and mty soundcard as my input, i forget the shell commands to fix
[06:12] <H2O> ok then
[06:12] <puckman> Yeah saw that troth, no idea, sorry.
[06:12] <H2O> i'm gonna try it out
[06:12] <H2O> cya later
[06:12] <H2O> ciao
[06:12] <puckman> ciao
[06:12] <troth> hmmmm
[06:12] <H2O> ^^
[06:13] <puckman> ^_^
[06:13] <puckman> he used kopete?
[06:13] <puckman> I thought kopete was for IM
[06:14] <puckman> hey troth, is there no way to do that in the gui?
[06:15] <troth> i had to do a new install, and it did it before, someone just gave me a shell fix so im not sure....
[06:15] <puckman> ah
[06:16] <puckman> know that feeling, buddy of mine helps me out but i have learned to write everything down he tells me ;)
[06:16] <kamelion> hi, I messed up my sources.list (kubuntu breezy), could someone give me the standard list please?
[06:16] <troth> ya not bad advice
[06:17] <puckman> I only remember stuff I do lots of times, so a one off fix at install i will forget 6 months down the line
[06:17] <puckman> have you done a search?
[06:17] <troth> ya i did the first time i went through this, ill try again
[06:17] <_chris> hi, if I installed the kde 3.4.91 beta and try to upgrade to ubuntu 5.10 what will happen?
[06:18] <_chris> should I just leave the beta repository available and then breezy will keep the beta kde installed?
[06:18] <puckman> troth: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=change+sound+source+kubuntu+terminal&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[06:18] <puckman> that gives tons of links about messing in terminal regarding sound
[06:19] <troth> thx
[06:21] <tolonuga> Hi. I have trouble with the kubuntu kernel and my network cards, so I did what I'm used to: compile a kernel from vanilla source and put the files into place, edit menu.lst etc. here is my question: ubunto uses an initrd by default. Can I savely skip that one (my kernel includes all drivers I need)?
[06:22] <kamelion> so, noone wants to send me a standard sources.list?
[06:23] <Sho_> kamelion: What's wrong with the one you already have?
[06:24] <kamelion> it got replaced by one for hoary
[06:24] <kamelion> and I'm using breezy
[06:24] <`Nomad> SOmething seems to have messed up my mime types.. I sthere a quick fix for that, like a new list of defaults
[06:25] <`Nomad> kamelion: I think that all you have to do is change the word hoary to breezy, if I remember correctly
[06:25] <kamelion> I tried that, but then I get 404's
[06:25] <`Nomad> oh
[06:25] <Sho_> kamelion: Hold on a sec, I'm booting my Breezy box ..
[06:25] <`Nomad> Then there's a list in the FAQ, that,s where I took mine
[06:25] <kamelion> ok, thank you
[06:26] <jairbubbles> is someone experiencing problems withamarok, I can't launch it anymore
[06:26] <`Nomad> !mime
[06:26] <ubotu> Wish i knew, `Nomad
[06:28] <kamelion> jairbubbles: any errors?
[06:28] <Sho_> kamelion: http://www.eikehein.com/sources.list
[06:29] <kamelion> Sho_: ok, thanks a lot!
[06:29] <Sho_> kamelion: Oh, and you should remove the '#' in front of the last two lines
[06:29] <kamelion> ok
[06:30] <kamelion> Sho_: thanks, now I can update again ;)
[06:31] <Sho_> np :)
[06:32] <SbCl3> where is the amarok-xine package?
[06:41] <troth> ne1 know how to change my sound source? my webcam is listed as my output sound device?
[06:45] <Originoo> SbCl3: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:48] <ThOR27> exit
[06:50] <iface> hey guys... when i open 'system settings' -> sharing -> fileshares, there is a notification to be root to change something. you can press a botton , enter the password but nothing happens... does anybody now about this?
[06:51] <warlock> anyone know how to edit the bootloader?
[06:52] <slow-motion> bbl
[06:53] <warlock> anyone?
[06:53] <iface> warlock, kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:55] <_admin> hallo leute, ist da jemand?
[06:56] <iface> hey guys... when i open 'system settings' -> sharing -> filesharing, there is a notification to must be root to change something. you can press the admin button, enter the password but nothing happens... does anybody now about this?
[06:57] <_admin>   ?
[06:57] <_admin>
[06:58] <warlock> Thank you iface.. Now does anyone know how to lode (god i hate to say this) Windoez under kubuntu?
[06:58] <warlock> Iface yes I got the same problem.. started using the run command with the root options set.. works great
[06:58] <troth> my webcam is being read as my default output sound rather than my soundcard, can someone help me change please
[06:58] <Ayide1> On a fresh kubuntu install what all do I need extra (thats not already included) to be able to compile a driver into my running kernel?
[07:00] <Ayide1> I do not need to compile a new kernel only get my modem to work with the drivers I already have
[07:00] <warlock> Ayide you need the cvs tools and the kernel tool.. check under adapt to see if they are listed
[07:01] <Ayide1> normally I would just install the sources and that would be it but it appears that kubuntu isnt to extra module/driver friendly
[07:01] <Ayide1> : ( I cant run apt-get....my modem doesnt work *(lol)
[07:01] <Ayide1> im on a windows PC
[07:01] <warlock> I think they didnt add the tools.. it could be just that.. did you google for a .deb package for your driver?
[07:02] <Ayide1> okay but I need the cvs tools and the kernel tool
[07:02] <Ayide1> does anyone know what packages they are called?
[07:03] <warlock> only if you cant get the driver.. you can always go to apt-get.org and search for the tools and driver , then transfer them in a usb disk to the kubuntu system
[07:03] <warlock> IFACE: did you try the run command?
[07:03] <Ayide1> ill go check for a kubuntu pacage brb
[07:04] <warlock> :)
[07:04] <warlock> AFK
[07:04] <iface> yeah, but didnt work
[07:04] <Ayide1> then IF i can find them I can download the tools much easier
[07:04] <Ayide1> im comming from mepis and slackware so im used to just haveing them : )
[07:05] <iface> you meant ALT-F1 -> run -> systemsettings?
[07:06] <Ayide1> I like kubuntus eye candey and the fact that they have kde 3.4 working great which I got really annoyed with *(lol)
[07:06] <frahi> Is there a nice gui to configure a wpa wlan network?
[07:06] <troth> my webcam is being read as my default output sound rather than my soundcard, can someone help me change please
[07:07] <warlock> Iface: K-Menu - run-command, then choose options and run as diffrent user, root, password. if you need to go to the icon of the program your trying to run and do properties on it to get the correct file name
[07:07] <Ayide1> they have a package for ubuntu 5.04 could that work???
[07:07] <Ayide1> with 5.10?
[07:08] <warlock> Troth: did you disconnect you webcam and reboot? the hardware manager may find the problem
[07:08] <troth> ill try now brb
[07:08] <Ayide1> is there much differnce in the file layout between 5.04 and 5.10?
[07:08] <warlock> Ayide: give it a shot.. if it dosent then uninstall. cant hurt! :)
[07:08] <warlock> Ayide: not that I have seen
[07:09] <iface> warlock, nothing happens -
[07:09] <iface> no window, no message
[07:09] <warlock> Iface?? what are you trying to run?
[07:09] <iface> systemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m
[07:10] <iface> what did you run?
[07:10] <warlock> ok if you open system settings what program are you trying to run?
[07:10] <Ayide1> crap.. its for kernel 2.6.10.... isnt there a problem with the way it handels pci devices and the newer 2.6.12 and 13 kernels?
[07:10] <Ayide1> I might still have to install from source : (
[07:10] <Ayide1> ill try this though
[07:11] <Ayide1> but I think i know what error ill get : (
[07:11] <warlock> Ayide: whats the driver for?
[07:11] <Ayide1> brb *(lol)
[07:11] <iface> sharing -> filesharing
[07:11] <Ayide1> hsf conexant modem
[07:11] <Ayide1> sux but its what i got
[07:11] <Ayide1> and since there are drivers for it its all I need
[07:11] <iface> warlock, sharing -> filesharing
[07:12] <warlock> Ayide , give it a shot.. :) let us know! you might get lucky?
[07:12] <warlock> Iface: hold on..
[07:12] <Ayide1> well if it doesnt work ill be abck later asking about what I need for source again ha ha ha
[07:12] <iface> sure
[07:12] <Ayide1> yeah I hope so
[07:12] <Ayide1> downloading right now
[07:12] <Ayide1> AFK
[07:12] <paelscrit> hmm any help with setting up my internet connection?
[07:13] <paelscrit> i didnt have a router when i installed kubuntu and now that I have one im having problems setting it up
[07:13] <paelscrit> the options in network settings are grey/unselectable.. it says disabled ethernet network device but I cant click "enable device" to enable it
[07:14] <paelscrit> theres no adminstrator mode button either
[07:14] <warlock> Iface: what kubuntu are you using?
[07:14] <iface> warlock, 5.10
[07:15] <iface> but i had the same problem with my old one 5.04. (i did a complete new install, with formatting) no upgrade
[07:15] <warlock> iface: did you setup samba?
[07:15] <iface> nope, where to do this?
[07:15] <xavier_> anyone know where i could go f'r wireless pcmcia troubles in 5.10?
[07:16] <warlock> palescrit: what router did you buy? or try to setup?
[07:16] <warlock> xaviet: internet - k-wifi.
[07:16] <paelscrit> linksys NR041
[07:16] <paelscrit> cable/dsl wired router
[07:16] <warlock> did you setup the router for DHCP
[07:17] <paelscrit> no i thought it was set up dhcp by default
[07:17] <paelscrit> my windows box is connecting fine
[07:18] <warlock> palescrit: dont belive it.. it probable has to be turned on and given a ip range
[07:18] <paelscrit> okay.. i guess i need to install the software that came with router
[07:18] <warlock> iface: use adapt and find the samba package. you should be fine from there.
[07:19] <warlock> palescrit: just check the manuel, it will tell you how to enter the router from your web browser and make changes
[07:19] <Ayide1> does adpet have more features than synaptic or is it the same just a differnt interface?
[07:20] <xavier_> warlock: what's internet -k-wifi mean?
[07:20] <Ayide1> adept**
[07:20] <warlock> Ayide: diffrent, i use both.. LOL
[07:20] <aftertaf> Ayide1: a different prog for kde, doesnt need gtk & gnome stuff
[07:20] <aftertaf> Ayide1: for now less functionality, but it has a lot of promise :)
[07:21] <warlock> xavier, click the "K" go up to the Internet section and look for K-WIFI program. if its not there you will need to install it with adapt
[07:21] <paelscrit> ugh
[07:21] <xavier_> warlock: ah -- thanks
[07:21] <warlock> ugh?
[07:22] <warlock> no problem xavier!
[07:22] <paelscrit> well i guess i should restart kubunutu for changes to take effect then?
[07:23] <warlock> palescrit what did you do?
[07:23] <paelscrit> i made sure dhcp was enabled
[07:23] <_john> hey, how do you get it so there is no shadow behind the text on the desktop, but rather a black border like in the old kubuntu?
[07:24] <paelscrit> then i put it on obtain ip automatically
[07:24] <paelscrit> then hit apply
[07:24] <_john> And when you select an icon on the desktop, can you get it so it has that block of color behind the text?
[07:24] <paelscrit> dhcp was already set to enable though
[07:24] <warlock> you might also have to tell it to clone the mac address of your network card.. you will probably have to restart the router and your system for it to pick up the new dhcp connection
[07:24] <paelscrit> okay
[07:25] <paelscrit> on my windows box it said a network cable is unplugged then it switched back on
[07:25] <warlock> john: check you settings for the aperance manager.
[07:26] <warlock> ok im out to experiment more.. later!
[07:27] <chimaera> hi. anyone havinh troubles with media:/? neither my usb-flash nor my IEEE1394 are detected (they work fine manually).
[07:28] <DarthFrog> Does anyone know where (or if) usplash writes logs?  I'm trying to figure out why it barfs out back to straight text mode after "Loading modules".
[07:29] <paelscrit> hmm it seems to freeze on detecting your current platform
[07:30] <xavier_> why would my wireless nic(uses ndiswrapper) make me run dhclient every 30 secs?
[07:31] <chimaera> oh, just read the topic. seems there _are_ issues with hal.
[07:31] <DarthFrog> xavier_: sounds like a bug, perhaps in the DHCP server lease time.
[07:32] <xavier_> darthfrog: would that be a router problem, cause all other wifi devices in the house 're fine
[07:33] <paelscrit> i think im going to just re-install kubuntu and see if it detects my connection then
[07:33] <paelscrit> it may be quicker then trying to figure this out
[07:34] <DarthFrog> xavier_: I'm on wifi right now, using wpa_supplicant.  Works fine for me.  Are your other wifi devices using DHCP?
[07:34] <DarthFrog> And can you swap out the problem child for a wireless NIC that doesn't require ndiswrapper?
[07:36] <xavier_> darthfrog: everything 's using dhcp, 'n' both cards i have are ndis dependant
[07:36] <DarthFrog> xavier_: Same card?
[07:37] <xavier_> one's a linksys, other's a 3com, but i've never gotten the 3com to work in linux
[07:37] <DarthFrog> Does the Linksys give the same problem in Windows?
[07:37] <xavier_> nope
[07:37] <DarthFrog> THen it's not a router problem.
[07:37] <xavier_> i thought it was acpi disabling the pcmcia slot 'r something like that
[07:37] <xavier_> could that be?
[07:38] <DarthFrog> Well, turn off ACPI and try it. :-)
[07:38] <DarthFrog> Also check your DCHP lease time.
[07:38] <xavier_> i turned acpi off in the control panel, but same problem
[07:39] <DarthFrog> is "noacpi" in your grub script kernel boot line?
[07:39] <xavier_> nope
[07:40] <DarthFrog> That would turn ACPI off at boot.
[07:40] <xavier_> also, when i dmesg i sometimes get a comlaint about no IPv6 servers, could that be a problem?
[07:40] <DarthFrog> Nope.
[07:41] <DarthFrog> You can ignore that message.
[07:41] <kkathman> Greetings all :)
[07:41] <xavier_> k, i'll try the noacpi, thanks
[07:41] <DarthFrog> Your welcome.  I don't think it'll help, though.
[07:41] <DarthFrog> But don't know for sure, either. :)
[07:41] <xavier_> yea, me neither, but 's worth a shot
[07:45] <chimaera> i have a MX900 mouse (bluetooth). it is detected and working, but not all buttons trigger events (xev).
[07:48] <gibarian> hey everyone....is the hal media:/ thing going to be resolved soon?
[07:50] <sampan> gibarian, is that the bug for when konq brings up an error about "media sda does not exist" when i plug in my usbdisk?
[07:50] <sampan> or something else?
[07:50] <puckman> silly question but where can I change that i have to double click on files for them to open
[07:50] <puckman> its confusing the crap out of me that files just open when I click on them
[07:51] <gibarian> sampan: no, it's about KDE not automatically recognizing USB stuff and popping up an icon on the desktop
[07:52] <sampan> oh, well i sorta assumed those were the same thing -- my fresh breezy does actually let me browse (cli or konq) to the usb drives, but you're right, it doesn't pop up the icon on the desktop
[07:52] <_xavier> darthfrog: strange, i just installed dhcpcd and it seems to work flawless now
[07:53] <coruja> puckman: take a look into the mouse settings in kcontrol/systemsettings
[07:54] <puckman> cheers coruja
[07:56] <puckman> worked, great!
[07:56] <libben> how do i kill a program
[07:56] <puckman> choke it?
[07:56] <puckman> poison it?
[07:56] <libben> im trying to kill ./kaid and it has pid 8876
[07:56] <libben> but just typing sudo kill 8876 wont do it
[07:56] <libben> its still alive
[07:56] <xuniL_> or you can use the command ctrl+alt+esc
[07:57] <xuniL_> and press on the thing that crashed
[07:57] <puckman> eeek
[07:57] <puckman> that looks scary
[07:57] <_olesya_> eeeeeeeek
[07:57] <puckman> little skull
[07:57] <coruja> libben: try 'kill -9 <pid>' if a process refuses to terminate
[07:57] <paelscrit> okay re-installing kubuntu
[07:57] <libben> what is -9 ?
[07:57] <libben> force like ?
[07:58] <coruja> yes
[07:58] <coruja> try maybe 'man kill' also :)
[08:02] <sampan> where does katapault look for programs to run?  just curious since it doesn't seem to know of programs i've newly installed
[08:02] <sampan> seems like a wonderful addition though -- very handy if i can get it to know of all my regularly used apps
[08:06] <coruja> sampan: i suppose katapult uses also your $PATH environment (try 'echo $PATH' to get the dirs listed where to look for executables)
[08:06] <qatsi> ahhh im sick of it, can anyone point me to a guide or something so i can learn everything about themes and stuff in kde ?
[08:08] <sampan> coruja, that's what i assumed too.  but i installed nethack and it's in /usr/games  which is in my path, yet katapault doesn't find it.  same with firestarter /usr/sbin/  but again, katapault doesn't find it
[08:09] <sampan> same is true for sylpheed
[08:09] <sampan> pan
[08:09] <sampan> boot up manager
[08:10] <coruja> are these executables that need to be run as root maybe?
[08:10] <sampan> firestarter should be ... but sylpheed/pan/nethack are just normal apps
[08:10] <sampan> i can start them all via kmenu and cli just fine
[08:10] <coruja> hmm, ok
[08:11] <coruja> i don't know much about katapult, maybe someone else can help you ;)
[08:11] <sampan> *nod*  i'll hang out and ask around :)
[08:11] <sampan> i really like the katapault idea ... i hate taking my hands off the keys to mouse through the GUI if i don't have to ... so i want it to work with all my apps :D
[08:13] <Riddell> sampan: katapult only finds programs with a .desktop file
[08:14] <Riddell> which all graphical programs should really
[08:14] <sampan> ahhhhhhhhh, well nethack is console/text only ... but the others are graphical.  can i manually create .desktop files for programs i use a lot?
[08:14] <sampan> or is that gonna be way over my head?
[08:14] <sampan> :D
[08:16] <sampan> firestarter does have a .desktop file but it's not in my path /usr/share/gnome/apps/Internet/firestarter.desktop
[08:16] <libben> anyone running kai here ? kaid is the program called ... its for kai and xbmc
[08:16] <Milktea> Does anyone here use Wine with WoW?
[08:18] <sampan> riddell, same situation a with  pan ... same location ... if i just add /usr/share/gnome/apps/ to my PATH will katapult find it?
[08:18] <Riddell> sampan: it needs a freedesktop compliant XDG .desktop menu file, looks like firestarted still has an old-style gnome one
[08:18] <Riddell> PATH won't change anything
[08:18] <sampan> ahhh okay :/
[08:19] <Riddell> feel free to submit fixes to MOTU
[08:19] <Milktea> Does anyone here use Wine with WoW?
[08:19] <Milktea> (sorry for the repeat, I lagged)
[08:19] <sampan> i only wish i knew how to fix things :D
[08:20] <sampan> usually i do a good job of breaking them though
[08:21] <sampan> riddell  thanks for answering my questions though -- much obliged
[08:21] <qatsi> ok, while installing baghira theme, this error poped...checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[08:21] <qatsi> ideas ?
[08:21] <Riddell> qatsi: installing or compiling?
[08:22] <qatsi> Riddell: well, i suppose its compilling, because i downloaded the sources and i was running all commands, actually this error ocurred while doing ./configure
[08:22] <Riddell> qatsi: there is a baghira package you can compile
[08:24] <qatsi> Riddell: uhmm, i remember installing baghira with adept, but now i cant find it, maybe repositories are "funky"
[08:24] <`Nomad> I tried the original kwin-baghira, but it seemed incomplete..
[08:25] <`Nomad> kwin-baghira
[08:25] <`Nomad> so i followed the instructions here if it helps..  http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.shtml#step6
[08:25] <qatsi> baghira is the mac-look like theme right ?
[08:25] <`Nomad> yes
[08:26] <qatsi> Nomad, thanx for the page...ill follow the instructions
[08:26] <Riddell> kwin-baghira works for me in breezy
[08:26] <jpatrick> qatsi: Baghira works fine
[08:26] <qatsi> Riddell and Nomad great, ill check it out....ill come back if anything goes wrong :) c ya ! thanx.........
[08:26] <`Nomad> I never used the CVS method, I just compiled from source
[08:27] <qatsi> jpatrick: thanx to you too :)
[08:27] <qatsi> see you later !
[08:28] <slow-motion> re
[08:36] <qatsi> Riddell: back already :p
[08:37] <qatsi> i need to install via cvs ....never used them, actually never heard of em :p but. The thing is i need a module or somehting to install via cvs, right ???which one is it ?
[08:38] <Riddell> qatsi: what are you wanting to install?
[08:38] <qatsi> baghira
[08:39] <qatsi> Riddell: uhmmm, i could just apt-get install kwin-bghira right ?
[08:41] <Tm_T> qatsi: right
[08:41] <qatsi> Tm_T ok, thanx, ill do it
[08:41] <Riddell> qatsi: yes
[08:41] <Rotan> hi!
[08:42] <Sho_> Riddell: Is there a discussion somewhere on the HAL trouble?
[08:43] <Riddell> Sho_: only lots of people complaining that it doesn't work and the occational response by me saying that it'll be fixed soon
[08:43] <Riddell> hello Rotan
[08:43] <Rotan> what's HAL?
[08:43] <Sho_> Riddell: ah ... I was wondering what exactly broke
[08:44] <Riddell> Sho_: the patch broke and didn't pick up hal 0.5 in the last minute update to kde 3.4.3
[08:44] <Riddell> Rotan: the computer in 2001: A Space Odessey
[08:44] <Sho_> The 0.5x compatibility patch being a backport from 3.5?
[08:44] <stodge> Any ideas what installing superkaramba also install gtk 1.2?
[08:44] <stodge> (what = why)
[08:45] <Riddell> Sho_: yes
[08:45] <Riddell> stodge: it depends on gtk (no idea why though)
[08:46] <stodge> Completely odd!
[08:46] <Riddell> stodge: oh, it's xmmsd
[08:46] <Riddell> xmms
[08:46] <stodge> superkaramba is dependant on xmms ?
[08:46] <stodge> Weird
[08:47] <SbCl3> i'm finding adept very slow to kynaptic, and it is because it tries to match description with a search; is there a way to search and only search for matching names?
[08:47] <stodge> And another question - why when I try to remove OpenOffice through adept does it say that KDE DEsktop will also be removed? :P
[08:48] <qatsi> ok, i need help with keyboard layouts in kubuntu. When i first log in to kubuntu, i had to do it via console, because i could not write a thing, just squares :p.....had the same issue in kubuntu, but when i changed the keyboard layout to my own, everything worked just fine, except the log in......is there a way i could fix this ?
[08:49] <Juerd> stodge: Yes.
[08:49] <Juerd> stodge: kubuntu-desktop is a package that depends on a lot of other packages, for easy installation.
[08:50] <Juerd> stodge: If you remove one of those, you can no longer benefit from the preselected bundle, because you choose to go your own way.
[08:50] <_wayne> could someone help me with sound problems?  total noob here
[08:50] <stodge> I just dont need OpenOffice
[08:50] <Juerd> stodge: Doing so will make future upgrades harder.
[08:50] <stodge> Ah ok
[08:51] <Juerd> stodge: It's part of what you get :) If you don't like what you get, do feel free to remove some of it. Just know that from then on, you will have to decide for yourself what you want.
[08:52] <stodge> Ok thanks for the info
[08:52] <elcuco> is anyone else experiencing coredumps on Kdevelop3 on Breeze?
[08:52] <Juerd> It's breezy
[08:53] <elcuco> oops :)
[08:54] <che_benway> hi all. just a quick question. might seem silly to ask.
[08:54] <che_benway> I currently have the old version of Kubuntu. Why can't I simply upgrade to the new version instead of downloading the whole CD?
[08:55] <Riddell> che_benway: you can
[08:56] <Riddell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:56] <che_benway> can I? I said it might sound silly cause I am new at this
[08:56] <DarthFrog>    Does anyone know where (or if) usplash writes logs?  I'm trying to figure out why it barfs out back to straight text mode after "Loading modules".
[08:56] <che_benway> thanks a million Riddel
[08:57] <_wayne> could someone help me with sound problems?  total noob here
[09:03] <regeya> I'll have to torrent breezy tomorrow at work, I suppose
[09:03] <regeya> or...wait.../me sees topic
[09:11] <regeya> not much action in #kubuntu-es
[09:16] <Firetech> what exactly does "pending" mean?
[09:18] <stodge> Is there a package for the win32 movie codecs?
[09:19] <seth_k|lappy> Firetech, what context?
[09:19] <Firetech> seth_k|away: topic.
[09:19] <seth_k|lappy> stodge, w32codecs but you will have to get it elsewhere. It's not in Ubuntu's repos
[09:19] <iface> what does that mean? "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)" ?
[09:20] <seth_k|lappy> Firetech, they haven't been committed to breezy-updates repo yet
[09:20] <Firetech> ok
[09:20] <BurgerMann> Hi, isn't there an app that can run as daemon listning for mails?
[09:20] <Firetech> they are made then?
[09:20] <stodge> ok thanks
[09:20] <Firetech> BurgerMann: like korn?
[09:21] <seth_k|lappy> I use Superkaramba + Fantastik as my mail listener
[09:21] <Firetech> korn is not a daemon though, more like a systray thingie
[09:21] <BurgerMann> Firetech: would be fine :)
[09:21] <iface> i tried to mount smb-shares with smb4k and i got the following error: "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)"
[09:22] <iface> what does it mean?
[09:22] <BurgerMann> Firetech: exactly what I need. Thanks
[09:26] <iface> nobody knows something about that?
[09:26] <bestdoud> salut
[09:28] <seth_k|lappy> salut bestdoud, vous voulez #kubuntu-fr je pense
[09:30] <paelscrit> yay
[09:30] <paelscrit> i got my internet connection working
[09:30] <seth_k|lappy> awesome
[09:33] <iface> i tried to mount smb-shares with smb4k and i got the following error: "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)"
[09:33] <iface> what does that mean?
[09:35] <Blissex> iface: that a certain Samba program must be able to run with super user privileges if normal users are to be allowed to mount arbitrary shares, which is not necessarily a good idea.
[09:35] <iface> why?
[09:37] <XxTJxX>  i just successfully installed breezy, and now the system sounds are a very low volumes, and my dvd drive you cant hear an audio cd, but my other cd drive you can hear it play
[09:37] <XxTJxX> (at very low volume again)
[09:38] <_jg> hallo
[09:38] <Blissex> iface: because of some small security concerns -- it is possible to put things on a remote share that are not good locally.
[09:38] <_jg> bin neu bei kubuntu
[09:39] <_jg> oh sorry, i'm new at kubuntu
[09:40] <seth_k|lappy> _jg, what would you like help with? :)
[09:41] <_jg> with my adsl connection :-)
[09:41] <seth_k|lappy> uh oh :P adsl
[09:41] <_jg> i got it configured, but i have to do it always again
[09:42] <seth_k|lappy> _jg, each time you boot up?
[09:42] <iface> hmm, i think i can ignore this for my purposes. but how to fix the error?
[09:43] <_jg> yeah! I cant even use the kde configuration tools. The eth0 is allways off. Even now!!! ;-)
[09:44] <iface> _jg, try in console "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"
[09:44] <Tallia1-KubuntU> HELP!
[09:44] <Tallia1-KubuntU> my katapult stop working
[09:44] <Riddell> Tallia1-KubuntU: what stopped?
[09:44] <Tallia1-KubuntU> when i press alt+space it doesn't work
[09:44] <Tallia1-KubuntU> i don't know
[09:44] <Riddell> Tallia1-KubuntU: alt+F2  katapult  enter
[09:44] <_jg> well, it works after using pppoeconf. But when I boot again, I need to do it from beginning
[09:44] <Tallia1-KubuntU> ??
[09:44] <kinfo> what?
[09:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> Riddell: what ?
[09:45] <Juerd> How often does katapult's rubber band need replacement?
[09:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> alt f2?
[09:45] <Juerd> :P
[09:45] <Riddell> Tallia1-KubuntU: just run katapult again
[09:45] <Riddell> Juerd: how do you mean?
[09:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> what is alt-F2
[09:45] <Juerd> Riddell: Surely with intensive use, it must stretch and lose elasticity.
[09:45] <seth_k|lappy> the alt key, and the F2 function key
[09:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> yeah i know
[09:46] <seth_k|lappy> alt-F2 is the "Run Program" shortcut
[09:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> i mean what is the reaction to that key combination
[09:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> ah.. i modified
[09:46] <seth_k|lappy> it's the same as clicking K Menu > Run Program
[09:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> win+r
[09:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> :P
[09:46] <Blissex> iface: use 'sudo chmod u+s' on the 'smbmnt' executable
[09:46] <seth_k|lappy> ack you windows user :P
[09:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> :P
[09:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> yeah, i have been for long time
[09:46] <Juerd> When customizing, it's always good to leave the defaults as secondary keys
[09:46] <Juerd> Then, users not used to your preferences can also use your computer
[09:46] <Riddell> Juerd: if you drag in konqueror's file select mode you'll see the new rubber band does ware away quickly on large selections
[09:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> ok
[09:47] <Tallia1-KubuntU> my fault
[09:47] <Juerd> Riddell: grin :)
[09:47] <Tallia1-KubuntU> i taught that it was autoexecuted in kde
[09:47] <Tallia1-KubuntU> as soon as installed :P
[09:47] <Tallia1-KubuntU> Riddell: tnx
[09:48] <Tallia1-KubuntU> Riddell: can i change the key combination of katapult?
[09:48] <Juerd> Oh, I cannot wait to install kubuntu on my mac
[09:48] <Juerd> I'm burning the iso right now.
[09:49] <iface> Blissex, sure to do this on smbmnt? I cant locate it
[09:49] <seth_k|lappy> btw, kuake is fun; I command you all to use it
[09:49] <Juerd> seth_k|lappy: What is it?
[09:49] <seth_k|lappy> Juerd, it is a dropdown console
[09:49] <seth_k|lappy> Juerd, looks like the console in FPS games like Quake
[09:49] <Blissex> iface: should be '/usr/bin/smbmnt'
[09:50] <Blissex> iface: in any case 'dpkg -S smbmnt' should find it.
[09:50] <quam> adept is the replacement for kynaptic?
[09:50] <Tallia1-KubuntU> ehi?
[09:50] <Riddell> Tallia1-KubuntU: yes, run alt+space then control-c
[09:50] <Tallia1-KubuntU> and for synaptics both
[09:50] <Tallia1-KubuntU> Riddell: TNX!!!
[09:50] <paelscrit> can someone tell me how you find packages off the net within kubuntu
[09:50] <Tallia1-KubuntU> see ya!
[09:50] <paelscrit> adept seems to just list a few things from my cd
[09:51] <iface> thx, its done. but i can mount my share, but it seems that's its instantly broken?!
[09:51] <quam> paelscrit: edited your sources?
[09:52] <paelscrit> no
[09:52] <quam> heh
[09:52] <paelscrit> is that manage repositories
[09:52] <wotnarg> is there any way to make it so that if I click a link in other programs, it opens in a new tab in konq? It just opens a new konq window atm.
[09:53] <quam> yeah
[09:53] <quam> i don't want to tell you something wrong, so check the repositories stuff in the wiki :P
[09:53] <paelscrit> in konqueror options theres a place to check open links in new tab instead of new window
[09:53] <paelscrit> it was checked by default for me
[09:54] <wotnarg> yea, but does that work for external calls to konq?
[09:54] <paelscrit> oh
[09:54] <paelscrit> probably not
[09:54] <Ravensky> hey, I only have official ubuntu repos in my list. What else should I add?
[09:54] <wotnarg> hrm, seems there was an option for that. Lemme see if it works now :)
[09:55] <wotnarg> nerp
[09:55] <wotnarg> *mutter*
[09:55] <quam> ravensky, i added universe/multiverse to all my stuff
[09:57] <richard_> i need some help
[09:57] <Ravensky> well, what's a repo that I can find limewire in? :P
[09:58] <richard_> im trying to find the repository that has bashira in
[09:58] <Ravensky> and azureus
[09:58] <Ravensky> and Sun's Java
[09:58] <richard_> can anyone help me
[09:59] <paelscrit> anyone used klik ?
[10:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ravensky about javadeb
[10:02] <regeya> paelscrit: yes, and I'm trying to figure out what the big deal is.
[10:02] <regeya> every klik install I've tried has been--without fail--a deb.  whoo, a web interface for installing debs.
[10:07] <paelscrit> im going to install it
[10:09] <libben> http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?topic=575.msg2674#msg2674
[10:09] <paelscrit> wow thats cool
[10:09] <paelscrit> theres a bunch of apps for klik on the site
[10:10] <paelscrit> im getting 3d chess
[10:10] <paelscrit> heh
[10:10] <paelscrit> i get an error though
[10:11] <paelscrit> awesome
[10:11] <felly> hmm a bunch of my gtk-based apps are crashing
[10:11] <felly> since upgrading to breezy via apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:12] <felly> including acrobat reader, evolution, and eclipse
[10:12] <paelscrit> it gives me an error with no error message
[10:13] <humbolt> does anybody know about alps glidepoint status in breezy?
[10:14] <seth_k|lappy> humbolt, mine works
[10:14] <seth_k|lappy> humbolt, even tapping... but not scrolling
[10:14] <quam> mine is really sensitive
[10:14] <Pixels-> felly: any errors?
[10:14] <Pixels-> or do they just exit.
[10:15] <quam> i'd like the ability to turn tapping off and just use the actual buttons
[10:15] <paelscrit> ha.. all my klik installs give me errors
[10:15] <paelscrit> nice
[10:18] <felly> Pixels-: yes, i will run them right now
[10:19] <humbolt> seth_k|lappy: what is in your xorg.conf? how best to configure?
[10:19] <Pixels-> okay
[10:20] <felly> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x080ddf28 ***
[10:20] <felly> evolution starts normally, but if i go to prefs, i get that error
[10:21] <libben> anyone knows how i get my pipe char back? im on swedish layout and with basic rule. in the regional settings, in system settings.
[10:21] <felly> run eclipse, crashes just before workspace opens
[10:21] <felly> # An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
[10:21] <felly> #
[10:21] <felly> #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb7889467, pid=13274, tid=2991193008
[10:22] <felly> #
[10:22] <felly> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.5.0_05-b05 mixed mode, sharing)
[10:22] <felly> # Problematic frame:
[10:22] <felly> # V  [libjvm.so+0x259467]
[10:22] <apokryphos> felly: don't flood the channel please
[10:22] <felly> how do i print that error message without flooding?
[10:22] <quam> pastebin
[10:22] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[10:23] <Riddell> kubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:23] <Pixels->  ubuntu<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #kubuntu
[10:24] <regeya> !start an editor war
[10:24] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:24] <ubotu> gvim is better than xemacs
[10:24] <felly> well anyway, i am using sun's jre just like i always have
[10:24] <regeya> there's the bot
[10:24] <felly> and i am using eclipse from eclipse.org not kubuntu repositories
[10:24] <felly> so i'm not sure what's changed, it's frustrating
[10:25] <regeya> felly, let me know if you get that working :>
[10:25] <Pixels-> oops ubotu is the bot
[10:25] <Pixels-> lol
[10:25] <Milktea> I'm using a laptop, and every time I push the moniter down
[10:25] <felly> regeya : similar issues?
[10:25] <Milktea> X seems to die
[10:25] <Milktea> and I half to alt+f2 to get a ___ login:
[10:25] <Milktea> have*
[10:25] <Milktea> anyone know why? T_T
[10:25] <quam> turn hibernation/standby/suspend off
[10:26] <Milktea> thanks
[10:26] <quam> should be in acpi settings
[10:26] <Milktea> kk
[10:26] <Milktea> also
[10:26] <Milktea> where would I find KDE styles
[10:26] <felly> also i can't seem to run katapult
[10:26] <quam> kde-look.org
[10:26] <Milktea> thanks
[10:26] <felly> alt + space does nothing
[10:27] <Milktea> and where is acpi settings? ^_^;;
[10:27] <quam> click on the k application launcher, it's in system settings
[10:27] <quam> click on laptops and power, at the tabs at the top, go all the way to the right
[10:28] <Milktea> thanks
[10:28] <Milktea> All of the boxes here
[10:28] <Milktea> are grayed out
[10:29] <_erik> you need to be in admistrator mode
[10:29] <Milktea> oh
[10:29] <Milktea> How do I run an app as root?
[10:29] <regeya> .
[10:29] <paelscrit> thers not a button that says adminstrator mode?
[10:29] <Milktea> no..
[10:29] <Milktea> I'm on Hoary, if that makes a differnce
[10:29] <Milktea> difference*
[10:29] <paelscrit> oh
[10:30] <paelscrit> yea i dont know then
[10:30] <xtacocorex> Milktea: it should be 'start helper application'
[10:30] <Milktea> oh thanks
[10:30] <Milktea> standby/suspend/hibernate are all off already
[10:30] <xtacocorex> Milktea: of course, i have the problem on my laptop when i close the monitor, i have to hit ctr+alt+f2 to get back to X
[10:31] <Milktea> oh
[10:31] <xtacocorex> Milktea: i don't know why that is though, in your case it should be ctr+alt+f7
[10:31] <Milktea> hmm"?
[10:32] <douglas> How did people here install jre5, I just want a simple package to install, but I can't seem to find the appropriate package in the default repositories?
[10:32] <xtacocorex> Milktea: it just gets you back to the X server, hitting ctr+alt+f[1-6]  it takes you to a virtual terminal
[10:32] <Milktea> oh
[10:32] <quam> i think the package in the repositories is j2re
[10:33] <quam> and amarok freezes. heh
[10:33] <douglas> erm, where which repository, main, restricted, universe, or multiverse?
[10:34] <Corvus> yes, that happens to me to
[10:34] <quam> you know there's a search function right? :p
[10:34] <Corvus> but amarok doesn't freezes itself only, it freezes the entire system
[10:37] <Milktea> Where can I check my KDE version
[10:37] <Milktea> nvm
[10:37] <xtacocorex> Milktea: kcontrol
[10:37] <Milktea> ^^;;
[10:39] <douglas> I opened adept and typed j2re and it had no results
[10:40] <Milktea> How do I compile something?
[10:40] <wotnarg> Breezy uses gcc4.0 as the compiler, no?
[10:40] <apokryphos> douglas: breezy?
[10:40] <douglas> Milktea: What are you compiling
[10:40] <douglas> apokryphos: yes.
[10:40] <apokryphos> douglas: enable multiverse
[10:40] <Milktea> I have a wine folder from CVS
[10:40] <douglas> apokryphos: ok
[10:40] <Milktea> and a few tar.bz2
[10:41] <apokryphos> douglas: if you want the sun-java debs, then /msg ubotu javadebs
[10:42] <alberello2005> hi room
[10:42] <alberello2005> anyone use gyach messenger????
[10:42] <alberello2005> :P
[10:42] <douglas> apokryphos: Thanks
[10:43] <douglas> apokryphos: which plugin do you use to get flash working on webpages?
[10:43] <apokryphos> douglas: flashplayer-mozilla
[10:43] <douglas> apokryphos: and that works for konqueror too?
[10:43] <apokryphos> yup
[10:43] <douglas> apokryphos: thanks
[10:44] <Pixels-> my linux life sucks
[10:44] <douglas> I've installed many linux distros and kubuntu several times just playing around and this is something that always pisses me off.
[10:44] <Pixels-> im stuck using backwoods distro's
[10:44] <Pixels-> due to not being able to boot a 2.6 kernel
[10:44] <apokryphos> douglas: why reinstalling?
[10:44] <Pixels-> i have like 3 choices of distro's lol
[10:44] <strike4ce> What is the command to install from desktop?
[10:44] <apokryphos> eh?
[10:45] <douglas> apokryphos: my usb was broken, I thought it was because of a bad update or something, I don't know, I think I just like reinstalling
[10:45] <apokryphos> =)
[10:45] <douglas> apokryphos: my pendrive still doesn't work unless I manually mount though.
[10:45] <Pixels-> for usb, make sure uhci and ohci are loaded in the kernel
[10:45] <Pixels-> maybe even ehci
[10:45] <douglas> it says error loading media:sda1, file doens't exist
[10:45] <Pixels-> or something around there.
[10:45] <apokryphos> douglas: yup, see /topic
[10:45] <apokryphos> douglas: HAL isn't working; fix pending
[10:46] <Milktea> Where can I get the formats apple uses in iTunes for XMMS plugins?
[10:46] <strike4ce> what is the comman for instaling a program from desktop I know the first is cd Desktop what is the install command in konsole?
[10:46] <Milktea> what file?
[10:46] <xtacocorex> Milktea: you trying to play .m4a files?
[10:46] <Milktea> yeah
[10:47] <douglas> apokryphos: wasa.
[10:47] <strike4ce> apokryphos:  what is the command for installing programs?
[10:47] <Pixels-> try ./wasa
[10:47] <apokryphos> strike4ce: apt-get
[10:47] <strike4ce> cd Desktop and the apt get?
[10:47] <humbolt> seth_k|lappy: how should the tabbing work?
[10:48] <douglas> damn j2re being huge and taking a long time to install itself
[10:48] <humbolt> can you paste you xorg.conf somewhere?
[10:48] <seth_k|lappy> humbolt, tabbing?
[10:48] <seth_k|lappy> humbolt, sure
[10:48] <xtacocorex> Milktea: do you have multimedia universe in synaptic?
[10:48] <Milktea> uh
[10:48] <Milktea> no
[10:48] <xtacocorex> Milktea: you'll need to get faad
[10:48] <Milktea> i have multiverse
[10:48] <Milktea> is that it?
[10:48] <strike4ce> my file is on the desktop, I know you type cd Desktop what is the install command?
[10:48] <xtacocorex> Milktea: that's what i meant
[10:49] <Milktea> oh
[10:49] <xtacocorex> Milktea: my bad on that one
[10:49] <Milktea> ah found it
[10:49] <Milktea> thanks
[10:49] <strike4ce> ?????
[10:49] <seth_k|lappy> humbolt, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/395777
[10:49] <Milktea> strike
[10:49] <Milktea> type
[10:49] <Milktea> sudo apt-get install (file)
[10:49] <xtacocorex> Milktea: np, that should do it, i just ended up converting them to ogg or flac files
[10:49] <apokryphos> strike4ce: cd means change directory -- nothing to do with installing files from apt
[10:50] <strike4ce> apokryphos:  no kidding lol i know I want to know what the rest of the comman dis
[10:50] <douglas> I've come to realize that kaffeine is shit, NOTE: not the shit.
[10:50] <xtacocorex> douglas: i'll agree with you there
[10:50] <jpdaigle> yeah
[10:50] <seth_k|lappy> douglas++
[10:50] <jpdaigle> xine works nicely tho
[10:51] <seth_k|lappy> but douglas, language please ;)
[10:51] <douglas> have you guys heard of codeine
[10:51] <douglas> sorry
[10:51] <seth_k|lappy> np
[10:51] <apokryphos> strike4ce: I think you're mixing up two entirely different things
[10:51] <xtacocorex> douglas: i have, but i haven't tried it
[10:51] <jpdaigle> kaffeine stays running at 100% cpu after killing the window
[10:51] <xtacocorex> jpdaigle: there is a fix for that on the forums, but i don't remember where it's at
[10:51] <apokryphos> jpdaigle: hoary?
[10:51] <seth_k|lappy> douglas, no, but the name alone is so clever i want to try it :P
[10:52] <douglas> it's nice, like surgar and spice, only one problem, I have a drive mounted over the network in my home directory, and it sometimes thinks it can't play the files
[10:52] <douglas> but I reccomend it for everyone, and if we developers help out, perhaps we can replace the problem ridden kaffeine
[10:52] <apokryphos> !kaffeineprob
[10:52] <ubotu> hmm... kaffeineprob is at http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#probkaffeine
[10:53] <jpdaigle> apokyphos: yeah, hoary
[10:53] <seth_k|lappy> has anybody gotten 1400x1050 to work in fglrx?
[10:53] <seth_k|lappy> it's driving me nuts that i'm stuck at 1280x1024
[10:53] <douglas> I've never tried.
[10:53] <xtacocorex> seth_k|lappy: i've given up on trying to get fglrx to work
[10:54] <douglas> speaking of, I almost forgot my nvidia drivers.
[10:54] <Milktea> I hate ATI
[10:54] <Milktea> ATI hates me
[10:54] <Milktea> :<
[10:54] <seth_k|lappy> i hate ATI
[10:54] <douglas> ATI hates Open source
[10:54] <douglas> therefore I hate ATI
[10:54] <seth_k|lappy> sadly I bought this laptop before I got into the linux scene
[10:54] <Milktea> same
[10:54] <seth_k|lappy> my desktop runs only nVidia tho ;)
[10:54] <douglas> I had an ati card, when I wanted to make a serious switch to linux, I also switched vid cards
[10:54] <Milktea> ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
[10:55] <Milktea> D=
[10:55] <Milktea> I don't want to open my precious laptop though
[10:55] <douglas> yea
[10:55] <douglas> I thought they were making progress on their drivers though
[10:55] <Milktea> yeah
[10:55] <Milktea> they released a new one for mine a few days ago
[10:55] <douglas> you should check out linux-gamers.net, I think they did some work on trying to get them working
[10:55] <Milktea> Ooo
[10:55] <douglas> and also read cedega's faq
[10:55] <seth_k|lappy> douglas, thanks
[10:56] <douglas> I think
[10:56] <Milktea> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1006
[10:56] <Milktea> Woo
[10:57] <douglas> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=22
[10:57] <douglas> This is their howto for ati cards
[10:57] <douglas> cedega doesn't have something, sorry. I thought they did.
[10:58] <Milktea> I have weird problems when i run WoW under Cedega using opengl instead of D3D
[10:58] <douglas> Hurray for video games!
[10:58] <Milktea> Wine, however, only has the clicking problem and the system lock problem
[10:58] <Milktea> Cedega has all of that and renders stuff weirdly
[10:58] <Milktea> or maybe it's because i mininova'd my cedega
[10:58] <Milktea> whatever
[10:58] <Milktea> lol
[10:59] <douglas> stupid laptops coming with ati and not being able to chane to nvidia
[11:00] <libben> how do i import my contacts to kopete ?
[11:00] <libben> ive made a new msn account and now i wanna import my exported contacts
[11:00] <douglas> Time to restart x, be back later
[11:02] <Milktea> How do install a tar.bz2
[11:02] <xtacocorex> Milktea: what's in the tar.bz2?
[11:02] <paelscrit> how do you install a tar.gz
[11:02] <paelscrit> heh
[11:03] <paelscrit> i suck at linux
[11:03] <Milktea> a folder with makefiles in them
[11:03] <xtacocorex> Milktea: from the command line type tar xvjf filename.tar.bz2
[11:03] <Milktea> thanks
[11:03] <libben> or just right click on it in konqueror
[11:03] <libben> and choose extract
[11:03] <paelscrit> then what do you do after you extract it
[11:03] <Milktea> tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' option
[11:03] <Milktea> Try `tar --help' for more information.
[11:04] <xtacocorex> Milktea: do what libben said, a lot easy than the command line
[11:04] <Milktea> oh ok
[11:05] <Milktea> woot for ./configure
[11:05] <strike4ce> glxgears isnt running as good as it was before the upgrade
[11:05] <Milktea> strike4ce: Huh?
[11:05] <strike4ce> type in glxgears in terminal
[11:05] <Milktea> wine sure  takes a long time to make
[11:06] <Milktea> i know what glxgears is
[11:06] <Milktea> but what upgrade?
[11:06] <strike4ce> the latest
[11:06] <strike4ce> 3.4.3
[11:06] <Milktea> breezy?
[11:06] <Milktea> Oh
[11:06] <Milktea> KDE?
[11:06] <strike4ce> uh yea
[11:06] <strike4ce> uh yea
[11:06] <Milktea> ono
[11:06] <Milktea> idunno
[11:06] <Milktea> D=
[11:07] <Phati> !de
[11:07] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[11:07] <Milktea> !en
[11:07] <ubotu> Milktea: What?
[11:07] <Milktea> Nevermind
[11:07] <strike4ce> how do i get to my video card
[11:08] <humbolt> seth_k|lappy: If I use ksynaptic and turn the touchpad off there, it keeps on working.
[11:08] <Milktea> hmm?
[11:08] <Milktea> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[11:08] <Milktea> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[11:09] <xtacocorex> Milktea: what version of kde are you running?
[11:09] <Milktea> 3.4.0
[11:09] <humbolt> My Alps touchpad configuration does not seem to work. Even when I turn off the touchpad with ksynaptics it keeps on working. looking at /proc/bus/input/devices I see that the device used by X does not seem to be the actual Alps device: http://pastebin.com/395797  what can I do?
[11:11] <xtacocorex> Milktea: have you upgraded your system since you installed hoary?
[11:11] <Milktea> no
[11:11] <Milktea> well
[11:11] <Milktea> I did a month ago
[11:11] <strike4ce> Where do I find where my vid card is?
[11:11] <xtacocorex> Milktea: my synaptic says that my versions of qt are 3.3
[11:12] <Milktea> oh
[11:12] <Milktea> ill go updaet
[11:12] <quam> ksynaptics doesn't seem to work for me either. i want to turn tapping off because it's annoying as hell
[11:12] <Milktea> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[11:12] <Milktea> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[11:12] <Milktea> opos
[11:12] <xtacocorex> Milktea: so maybe try that
[11:12] <Milktea> sorry fingers slipped
[11:12] <xtacocorex> Milktea: it's all good
[11:13] <Milktea> Whee
[11:13] <Milktea> earthquake
[11:13] <quam> where?
[11:13] <Milktea> LA county
[11:13] <Milktea> really small though
[11:13] <xtacocorex> Milktea: so your house just shook
[11:13] <Milktea> ya
[11:13] <xtacocorex> Milktea: badass
[11:13] <Milktea> yep
[11:14] <Milktea> Wow, wine has been make'ing the file for 10 minutes now
[11:14] <Milktea> o-o
[11:14] <xtacocorex> Milktea: so it got past the qt error
[11:14] <Milktea> no, that was something else
[11:14] <Milktea> I'm updating
[11:15] <xtacocorex> Milktea: oy
[11:15] <Milktea> I have 151 packages to update
[11:15] <Milktea> o-o
[11:15] <slow-motion> n8
[11:20] <icewt> why is kde so much better than gnome? i always become sad when using kde/kde-programs because they win gnome equivalents 10-0 :(
[11:20] <apokryphos> ergh
[11:20] <icewt> ;)
[11:20] <apokryphos> actually getting quasi-sick of that point; heard it about 10 times in the last week (and only 5 times in my life before that, I'd say)
[11:20] <quam> hrm, x shared memory, anyone know how to enable that?
[11:21] <apokryphos> kde has one panel. It's windows, it is! It must be!
[11:22] <nikki_a> one panel ?
[11:22] <Blissex> quam: shared memory does not need to be enabled, but you need to enable SHM by mounting 'tmpfs' under '/dev/shm'
[11:22] <quam> it's already mounted
[11:23] <apokryphos> nikki_a: by default, yes
[11:23] <quam> i was trying to run qsynaptics to try to kill my touchpad
[11:23] <nikki_a> apokryphos: gnome only has one by default too, doesn't it ?
[11:23] <nikki_a> apokryphos: at least, last time i used gnome, it did
[11:23] <soccerfiend> actually there is only 1 panel by default
[11:23] <apokryphos> nikki_a: nope, two
[11:23] <apokryphos> heh
[11:23] <quam> and it said x shared memory wasn't on
[11:23] <soccerfiend> no gnome defaults to two
[11:23] <soccerfiend> which is a waste of screen space
[11:23] <icewt> the first thing i always do in gnome is deleting the other panel :)
[11:23] <apokryphos> nikki_a: you haven't used it at all, for that long? :D
[11:23] <apokryphos> kinda funny ;-)
[11:23] <soccerfiend> ditto
[11:24] <nikki_a> apokryphos: i haven't used gnome since, ummm, 2000?
[11:24] <soccerfiend> especially on my laptop, 2 panels is kinda silly
[11:24] <apokryphos> hehe
[11:24] <apokryphos> nikki_a: try it today, so you can dislike it properly :P
[11:24] <nikki_a> nah, thats ok
[11:24] <nikki_a> i had an arguement about gtk earlier :P
[11:24] <soccerfiend> I want to like gnome, (it used to be my fav), but it seems to be getting worse to use
[11:24] <apokryphos> nikki_a: oh?
[11:24] <nikki_a> apokryphos: i was pointing out that its ugly :P
[11:25] <nikki_a> apokryphos: the gtk fans among the audio developers present didn't take too kindly :P
[11:25] <apokryphos> a self-evident empirical fact; who would argue with that? :P
[11:25] <apokryphos> </terrible flame>
[11:25] <icewt> i don't like two panels in gnome, but i don't like the default kde _big_ panel either. luckily both of those annoyances can be fixed
[11:25] <soccerfiend> the first I do with KDE is make the panel tiny
[11:26] <apokryphos> icewt: big -- two minimised-windows line?
[11:26] <richard> I installed gnome and using apt-get install kde , I downloaded and installed all of kde. My Wifi connection works in Gnome initially (5.10 release ) but not in KDE (5.10). Having installed KDE and running KDE under Gnome session, I  have connectability with KDE. How do I now get rid of GNOME? Leaving just KDE hopefully in a Wifi functional state?
[11:26] <jsubl2> i like the way in kde i can squeeze two rows in the task bar for only 36 pixels
[11:26] <apokryphos> I prefer the look
[11:26] <icewt> apokryphos, waste of space anyway
[11:26] <apokryphos> not if it's used up :P
[11:26] <icewt> imo
[11:26] <icewt> apokryphos, well, i use multiple desktops
[11:27] <nikki_a> actually, thats a fair point, i keep my desktops categorised, so i could probably shrink my panel
[11:27] <apokryphos> icewt: me too, but not as much as others, generally
[11:27] <richard> Or should I levave them both on the system?
[11:29] <richard> This is the only way I can get KDE to work with my system, is by starting it up with Gnome.
[11:29] <soccerfiend> richard: what do you mean wifi is broken in kde?
[11:29] <apokryphos> richard: running kde under a gnome session? Eh?
[11:30] <soccerfiend> my wifi works in all dekstop environements (and even console only), as it is handled outside of the UI
[11:30] <apokryphos> richard: you don't need to start gnome to start the application, surely
[11:30] <richard> IIt does not allow administrator mode to function to enable or disable what it finds for Wifi.
[11:30] <soccerfiend> try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:30] <soccerfiend> you probably are missing something like kdesu
[11:30] <apokryphos> richard: kdesu kcontrol
[11:31] <soccerfiend> I actually use waproamd for handling wireless
[11:32] <richard> I guess I should state everything differently. When the system boots up, it starts with only Gnome. In the Intro screen I go to and enter KDE session as default. Thats how I get KDE to run. Gnome has no problem getting my wifi up and running.
[11:32] <gath> hello
[11:32] <soccerfiend> (which relies on iwconfig, part of the wireless-tools package
[11:33] <apokryphos> richard: that's still really confusing. You run kde and gnome at the same time?
[11:33] <soccerfiend> ah, you can apt-get install kdm, which is the kdm GUI login
[11:33] <gath> can i get a german version of thunderbird for my breezy ?
[11:33] <nikki_a> gath, given my work PC, clearly, yes :/
[11:34] <nikki_a> stupid knoppix system, it keeps resetting to german whenever i turn my back for a minute :P
[11:34] <gath> nikki_a: and how is the apt- name?
[11:34] <richard> No, I boot up with gnome and change the session via the splash screen menu that asks what session you want to start as default. (i.e. Gnome, KDE, etc)
[11:35] <strike4ce> My graphics card is not workking as good as it could ever since I did the update
[11:35] <nikki_a> gath, mozilla-thunderbird-locale-de ?
[11:35] <gath> locale ?
[11:35] <apokryphos> richard: erm, so you're not in gnome at all, then? You just login to kde through GDM?
[11:35] <gath> i`LL try
[11:36] <soccerfiend> mozilla-thunderbird-locale-de - Mozilla Thunderbird German Language/Region Package
[11:36] <soccerfiend> its there
[11:36] <Milktea> what shte command to kill wine
[11:36] <richard> Yes, because my wifi connection works in Gnome not in Kde. (At least with the distro disks (5.10) . I used apt-get install to put kde on my system.
[11:36] <nikki_a> soccerfiend: i know, i looked it up first :P
[11:36] <soccerfiend> oh heh, should have paid attention :)
[11:36] <gath> soccerfiend: it says it is the newest version
[11:37] <apokryphos> richard: but you've just said you're not actually going into gnome at all
[11:37] <apokryphos> gdm -- gnome login manager; you're not actually in gnome when you use this
[11:37] <apokryphos> actually, it could mean gtk login manager oO
[11:37] <gath> soccerfiend: but i don`t have any thunderbird on my new breezy system
[11:38] <mike998> is there a problem with the mplayerhq.hu site?  I can't seem to get w32codecs
[11:38] <richard> NO i just get booted up into the splash screen that allows me to change the session. . ..
[11:38] <apokryphos> !tell mike998 about w32codecs
[11:39] <apokryphos> richard: it's not a splash screen, it's a display (login) manager. Sorry to be a pedant, but the different terms confuse things ;-)
[11:39] <Logikal> Im going to attempt to use Knoppix to repair a windows install
[11:39] <Corvus> !tell corvus about libdivx4linux
[11:39] <richard> Sorry I don't know better. . .
[11:39] <apokryphos> np :)
[11:39] <apokryphos> richard: so, you're saying when you use KDM (the KDE display manager), your wifi doesn't work?
[11:39] <apokryphos> I can't see why that would be the case; gdm/kdm wouldn't initiate any wifi processes
[11:40] <richard> Yes in the full distro that you download (5.10) as an ISO.
[11:40] <apokryphos> richard: sudo aptitude install kdm
[11:40] <apokryphos> see if it works
[11:40] <qatsi> hi all !!...how can i be part of a workgroup in a network ?.....i have a laptop and a desktop, but none of them can share files in my local network, Konqueror says i need to be in a workgroup ....any idea ?
[11:40] <richard> I'll give it a try. ... be back in a few
[11:41] <Milktea> How do i find the size of my screen
[11:41] <Milktea> in pixels
[11:41] <soccerfiend> qatis: man samba :)
[11:41] <apokryphos> milksteak: how many it can handle, or what it's set on now?
[11:41] <qatsi> soccerfiend: thanx :p they should do a man page on how to use manuals :p i never know what to type :p
[11:41] <Milktea> What it's set on now
[11:41] <soccerfiend> just being a punk
[11:42] <Milktea> actually
[11:42] <Milktea> both
[11:42] <nikki_a> qatsi: 'man man' ? :)
[11:42] <mike998> apokryphos: I am getting a GPG error - is this the same as the error that was recieved when nerim first went online when warty went live?
[11:42] <apokryphos> milksteak: right-click -> configure desktop
[11:42] <apokryphos> milksteak: and for what it can handle, result to the monitor manual
[11:42] <soccerfiend> right click on desktop then select configure desktop
[11:42] <qatsi> nikki_a: yep :p on the contrary of 'man woman'  (check thinkgeek.com)
[11:42] <soccerfiend> then click on the icon labeled display
[11:42] <Milktea> ok
[11:42] <apokryphos> mike998: you're getting a gpg error for what? The w32codecs link just sends you to a place with raw debs to download
[11:43] <nikki_a> qatsi: the 'woman.1' manpage is an old emacs 'joke' - personally, i don't find it exceptionally funny
[11:43] <Milktea> your x server does not support resizing and rotating the display. Please update to version 4.3 or greater. You need the X resize and rotate exension (RANDR) version 1.1 or greater to use this feature
[11:43] <mike998> apokryphos : I perform a sudo apt-get update, and get a GPG Error.  I can post in #flood if you wish
[11:43] <qatsi> nikki_a: darn :p i like it much :p       are you a woman, by any chance ?
[11:45] <soccerfiend> mike998: use http://pastebin.ca/ instead
[11:45] <qatsi> uhmm, so soccerfiend, Samba is for Windows sharing, as i see......is there an alternative to share files in a linux network ?
[11:45] <soccerfiend> I use samba for both
[11:46] <soccerfiend> you can also use nfs
[11:46] <nikki_a> qatsi: many, but smb is actually fairly good
[11:46] <soccerfiend> samba works better over wireless than nfs
[11:46] <nikki_a> soccerfiend: in my experience, it works better over wired too
[11:46] <qatsi> nikki_a and soccerfiend ok, ill use Samba, sounds good....ill try to figure out how to set up linux networks...thanx.......
[11:46] <apokryphos> mike998: ok. There is no breezy-updates repo yet, so comment that out. And why are you using nerim repo?
[11:46] <nikki_a> soccerfiend: its faster than NFS (in my experience), and doesn't quite have as bad security issues as NFS :)
[11:46] <Milktea> uh
[11:47] <apokryphos> mike998: you can cause a lot of problems with it
[11:47] <soccerfiend> smbclient, smbmount are your friends
[11:47] <qatsi> soccerfiend: thanx :)
[11:47] <mike998> apokryphos: in the link that was posted
[11:47] <soccerfiend> nikka_: preating to the choir
[11:47] <soccerfiend> nikka_: preatching to the choir
[11:47] <apokryphos> mike998: which one?
[11:47] <chris-x> hey guys, i want to have a script / command executed on kde-startup (not system-startup), where do I have to place it?
[11:47] <nikki_a> coda is potentially better...
[11:47] <mike998> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:48] <nikki_a> but smb works well enough, and you might as well have something that works with *all* major OSes :)
[11:48] <apokryphos> mike998: ignore that; go to the other links which have direct downloads to debs
[11:48] <soccerfiend> nikki_a: properly tuned nfs can beat samba on my wired network
[11:48] <soccerfiend> there is also a secured version of nfs that works ok,
[11:48] <qatsi> by the way, i need some terminal commands to run at bootup, how can i make this happen ?
[11:48] <dave> chris-X - put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[11:49] <richard_> sudo aptitude install kdm works.  I boot up into kdm now only. . . .
[11:49] <soccerfiend> qatsi: place a script in .kde/env
[11:49] <apokryphos> richard_: cool
[11:49] <mike998> apokryphos: will do
[11:49] <chris-x> dave: oh, I did, now my brain starts working again and it says, I should put a bash-script in there, thanks a lot :)
[11:49] <qatsi> soccerfiend: is there a special syntax for the script, or just the commands ?
[11:49] <richard_> How do I know uninstall Gnome completely?
[11:49] <soccerfiend> qatsi: usually a good idea to start with #!/bin/bash on first line
[11:49] <apokryphos> richard_: remove some vital gtk lib :P
[11:50] <apokryphos> libgtksomething
[11:50] <richard_> Yikes
[11:50] <qatsi> soccerfiend: all right then :) ill do it :) thanx
[11:50] <soccerfiend> qatis: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
[11:50] <soccerfiend> excellent resource
[11:50] <qatsi> soccerfiend: ohh, ill read it :) so much thanx :)
[11:50] <richard_> This noew package manager that came out in 5.10 what's it called?
[11:50] <soccerfiend> adept
[11:51] <richard_> New Package manager? Adept?
[11:51] <soccerfiend> though it has not converted me from apt-get and aptitude (the two I still use the most)
[11:51] <apokryphos> yes
[11:52] <inventas> can any 1 get me jave software  ??
[11:52] <icewt> btw, is there anything like "update notifier" in gnome for kde?
[11:52] <apokryphos> !tell inventas about javadebs
[11:52] <soccerfiend> though to be fair, I have been using debian for a long time, so I am very used to them
[11:52] <richard_> What is aptitude? ls it like apt-get?
[11:52] <apokryphos> icewt: yes, but it has no tray icon :/
[11:52] <apokryphos> richard_: yes; it's a front-end to apt. Has a few differences; they're both good
[11:52] <soccerfiend> aptitude is a console app, curses (console gui)
[11:52] <icewt> apokryphos, ah, what is it then?
[11:52] <soccerfiend> it has a lot of neat things
[11:53] <soccerfiend> like synaptic, adept, it is another front end
[11:53] <richard_> You run it in the konsole? Is it in the repository for downloading and installing?
[11:53] <soccerfiend> yup
[11:53] <apokryphos> richard_: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[11:53] <soccerfiend> I think it might be there by default
[11:53] <apokryphos> richard_: that'll give you what really constitutes as "Kubuntu".  It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:01] <Milktea> Sorry
[12:01] <H2O> it stops at 44% waiting for headers but....nothing
[12:01] <H2O> it stops there
[12:01] <H2O> how i can solve it :(
[12:01] <soccerfiend> H2O: what is the package manager
[12:02] <soccerfiend> H2O: from the command line, what happens when you type apt-get update
[12:02] <icewt> H2O, you could try "sudo apt-get clean" , "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:03] <H2O> is adept, where you can install others pakage that are not included with the original installation of kubuntu