[00:00] <sumant> sumant-laptop is my machine name...so type it ther/
[00:00] <Fujisan> how do i add a user in Konsole "and specify a password"? (sorry but i cant scroll up and my logging is disable , this text here scrolls too fast) "new addition"
[00:01] <sumant> flipstar: i mean during setup it said you will be identified on a network as sumant-laptop
[00:01] <flipstar> Fujisan: the adduser will ask for an password
[00:01] <Fujisan> doesnt work
[00:01] <sumant> flipstar: what in the right side
[00:02] <Fujisan> and isnt it useradd flipstar?
[00:02] <Fujisan> instead of adduser
[00:02] <macisp2000> Ok, I got Kubuntu installed and then found KDE4 and installed it.  Is there a easy way to also install Gnome?
[00:02] <Fujisan> i need an example
[00:02] <flipstar> Fujisan: useradd might also work but isn't for deban at all
[00:02] <jussio1> macisp2000: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:02] <spiroo> Is it allright to ask for a computer related thingy? :P
[00:02] <flipstar> sumant: the right side as it is there
[00:02] <Fujisan> because i am not prompted to give a password when i use: useradd "username"
[00:03] <spiroo> I have a question about my CPU.
[00:03] <macisp2000> thanks.  Is there a way to use the add/remove programs like I did with KDE4?
[00:03] <jussio1> spiroo: try in #kubuntu-offtopic
[00:03] <sumant> flipstar;yeah i pasted it as it is
[00:03] <spiroo> okay thanks
[00:03] <flipstar> sumant: good then save and run <sudo visudo -c> in a shell
[00:03] <sumant> flipstar :now?
[00:03] <jussio1> macisp2000: yeah, install ubuntu-desktop from the adept installer
[00:03] <macisp2000> ok, I was looking for gnome.
[00:04] <jussio1> macisp2000: that installs gnome...
[00:04] <Fujisan> whats password when no password is specified in the commandline?
[00:04] <Fujisan> the*
[00:04] <flipstar> Fujisan: maybe you'll be asked at first login
[00:04] <sumant> flipstar: i enterd the passwrd, it says /etc/sudoers file parsed OK
[00:04] <SlimeyPete> Fujisan: adduser is better than useradd btw
[00:04] <macisp2000> Last two things, I have emerald installed but have no themes, how to I add them, also, I can't get the hang of KDE themes from the website, is there some sort of one click install?
[00:05] <flipstar> sumant: great..then the next step
[00:05] <SlimeyPete> and it should ask you for the password when you create the user
[00:05] <Fujisan> it doesnt do that
[00:05] <Fujisan> SlimeyPete
[00:05] <Fujisan> it should yes
[00:05] <Fujisan> but it aint happening
[00:05] <SlimeyPete> useradd might not...it's less automatic than adduser
[00:05] <Fujisan> so a -p followed by "password" ?
[00:06] <Fujisan> i am just guessing here
[00:06] <flipstar> Fujisan: see man adduser :)
[00:06] <sumant> flipstar: kmenu>run command>wvdial
[00:06] <sumant> ??
[00:06] <Fujisan> why cant i get an example
[00:06] <Fujisan> the man doesnt give me an example
[00:06] <flipstar> sumant: at command prompt means at a shell
[00:07] <Fujisan> just a bunch of explainations
[00:07] <flipstar> sumant: to see if there problems
[00:07] <Fujisan> not i am messing it up here adding a zillion users
[00:07] <Fujisan> please give me a password
[00:07] <sumant> i did open a new shell n typed wvdial
[00:07] <Fujisan> i mean gimme me an example
[00:07] <sumant> flilpstar : it says ---
[00:07] <Fujisan> is that hard to give someone an example
[00:07] <sumant> WvDial<*1>: WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.56
[00:07] <sumant> WvDial<Err>: Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory
[00:07] <sumant> WvDial<Err>: Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory
[00:07] <sumant> WvDial<Err>: Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory
[00:07] <sumant> sumant@sumant-laptop:~$
[00:07] <SlimeyPete> Fujisan: "sudo adduser pete" would add the user pete and should ask you for your sudo password, then ask you a bunch of questions about the user, including their password.
[00:08] <flipstar> sumant: the modem is plugged in ?
[00:08] <Fujisan> i tried that already but i dont get to specify a password afterwards but the user is created and when i try to login i dont know which password to use
[00:08] <sumant> flipstar :the phone is displyaed in K info center ---
[00:08] <sumant> Manufacturer: Telson, Incorporated
[00:08] <sumant> Serial #: Serial Number
[00:09] <sumant> Manufacturer: Telson, Incorporated
[00:09] <sumant> Serial #: Serial Number
[00:09] <sumant> flip: its displyed under host controller 2
[00:09] <SlimeyPete> Fujisan: does it ask you any questions at all?
[00:09] <sumant> flipstar:its displyed under host controller @
[00:09] <sumant> flipstar:2
[00:10] <Fujisan> ok its working now thanks
[00:10] <sumant> flipstar:should i plug it in the other port?
[00:10] <SlimeyPete> Fujisan: :)
[00:11] <flipstar> sumant: run <ls /dev/ttyUSB0> in a shell ..
[00:11] <flipstar> Fujisan: what was the error ?
[00:12] <sumant> flipstar: i got this message--- ls: /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory
[00:14]  * NightBird ponders
[00:14] <wesley> freq_table              5536  2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand  does this mean these power saving are in use ?
[00:14] <flipstar> sumant: you probably need to replace "Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0" in "/etc/wvdial.conf" with something else
[00:14] <sumant> flipstar:i did install this .exe file thru wine....what does that do?
[00:14] <mefisto__> flipstar, sumant: I think k/ubuntu lists usb devices differently, not as ttyUSB0
[00:15] <Fujisan> can i get filelight through the repos?
[00:15] <flipstar> Fujisan: sure
[00:15] <mefisto__> ls -i /dev/*usb* might give a clue
[00:15] <Fujisan> ok
[00:15] <Fujisan> ty
[00:15] <sumant> mefisto: thanks mate...so shold i run that in a shel to find out?
[00:16] <minaqua> bloody hell.  that new nVidia driver slowed me down immensely
[00:16] <sumant> mefisto_: yeah that did give a yellow coloured output
[00:16] <sumant> 8104 /dev/usb1            13295 /dev/usbdev1.7_ep81  70086 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep83
[00:17] <sumant>  8108 /dev/usb2             8130 /dev/usbdev2.1_ep00  70069 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep8a
[00:17] <sumant>  8112 /dev/usb3             8171 /dev/usbdev2.1_ep81   8138 /dev/usbdev3.1_ep00
[00:17] <sumant>  8189 /dev/usb4            70043 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep00   8200 /dev/usbdev3.1_ep81
[00:17] <sumant>  8126 /dev/usbdev1.1_ep00  70093 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep06   8218 /dev/usbdev4.1_ep00
[00:17] <sumant>  8151 /dev/usbdev1.1_ep81  70076 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep0b   8233 /dev/usbdev4.1_ep81
[00:17] <sumant> 13287 /dev/usbdev1.7_ep00  70111 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep81
[00:17] <sumant> flipstar: u there
[00:18] <frapell> Hi, i'm trying the new kubuntu
[00:18] <frapell> and also i'm trying KDE4
[00:18] <frapell> (4.0.3)
[00:18] <vmplanet> how do i check if i have installed KDE 4?
[00:19] <frapell> for some reason the bar in the bottom (where i have the K menu, applications, clock, etc) is not longer appearing... does anybody knows what should i execute to have it back ?
[00:19] <flipstar> sumant: i don't know could be any of them
[00:19] <Fujisan> any good alarmclocks for kde besides the kalarm one?
[00:19] <frapell> (i was messing around with compiz :-P)
[00:19] <ProGzZz> hi
[00:19] <ProGzZz> I'm a new linux user
[00:19] <ProGzZz> :)
[00:20] <ProGzZz> I liked ubuntu
[00:20] <flipstar> frapell: plasma probably but ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:20] <sumant> flipstar: tell me about wine
[00:20] <ProGzZz> it is nice
[00:20] <JoshOvki> ProGzZz: welcome
[00:20] <flipstar> sumant: whats with wine ?
[00:20] <thompa> i created a dvd project in k3b and save it, but its too large to burn, can i split it somehow?
[00:20] <ProGzZz> JoshOvki: thanks:)
[00:20] <sumant> flipstar: it helps running windows progs. right
[00:20] <frapell> flipstar: thanks
[00:20] <sumant> flipstar:or it helps with drivers too
[00:20] <flipstar> sumant: right
[00:20] <sumant> ?
[00:21] <flipstar> sumant: no..it given a faked win environment
[00:21] <Fujisan> does kerry beagle need to index files and if so do i have to specify this in the settings?
[00:21] <vmplanet> whats the command to upgrade kde 3.5 into 4.0 on kubuntu 8.04
[00:21] <JoshOvki> ProGzZz: this is the support channel, #kubuntu-offtopic   is the general chat
[00:21] <sumant> flipstar:so u cant run the drivers which i got on a cd, i mean the usb modem drivers
[00:21] <sumant> ?
[00:21] <ProGzZz> one question please! is there any way to play Generals on ubuntu ?
[00:21] <sumant> mefisto_: u there
[00:21] <ProGzZz> JoshOvki:  I need help
[00:21] <minaqua> any way to play DVD movies?
[00:21] <TheGentleman> Why can't I upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 using the alternate CD?  sudo /cdrom/cdromupgrade returns "command not found" though i can see that cdromupgrade is there on the CD
[00:22] <thompa> any k3b person here, its annoying that it allows you to put duel layer
[00:22] <Dragnslcr> TheGentleman- I had the same problem with the DVD
[00:22] <TheGentleman> and you could solve it Dragnslcr ?
[00:22] <ProGzZz> is there any way to play C&C Generals on ubuntu ?
[00:23] <Fujisan> is it possible to implement a ticketing support system for the chat i am feeling overwhelmed by the chaotic nature of this support infrastructure
[00:23] <sumant> flipstar:which os u use?
[00:23] <Dragnslcr> TheGentleman- only by doing a normal upgrade through Adept
[00:23] <Dragnslcr> I hated to suck up the servers' bandwidth when I didn't really need to
[00:23] <terrestre> !medibuntu > minaqua
[00:23] <sumant> flipstar:was thinking of downloading the new hardy heron, ubuntu this time...
[00:23] <thompa> i got 8G  data to burn in k3b but only have single layer
[00:23] <sumant> flipstar: is ubuntu better than Kubuntu?
[00:24] <sumant> flipstar: i believe its more widely used than K...
[00:24] <TheGentleman> I agree Dragnslcr    I just downloaded the alternate iso (in 30 mins via torrent) for that reason!
[00:24] <mefisto__> thompa: are you trying to backup a dvd movie?
[00:24] <terrestre> !medibuntu > terrestre
[00:24] <JoshOvki> ProGzZz: i think its possible with wine
[00:25] <JoshOvki> !wine > ProGzZz
[00:25] <Dragnslcr> TheGentleman- yeah, I know. I downloaded the DVD anyway, just in case the upgrade went badly
[00:25] <minaqua> thX
[00:25] <Fujisan> amagawd
[00:25] <thompa> mefisto__: no i created a dvd project without realizing that it defaults to duel layer
[00:25] <Fujisan> anarchy is rampant here
[00:25] <ProGzZz> JoshOvki: thanks I'll try it
[00:25] <thompa> mefisto__:starting over will take forever
[00:25] <Fujisan> slipstream support into categories
[00:25] <Dragnslcr> Fujisan- welcome to IRC
[00:25] <|Toad> i have a simple question that hopefully has a simple answer.  how do i do the 3d desktop switch?
[00:26] <thompa> mefisto__: file is saved as k3b project,
[00:26] <Fujisan> thanks
[00:26] <mefisto__> thompa: it doesn't default to dual layer, it will adapt to whatever size the project is
[00:26] <Dragnslcr> Fujisan- if you think #kubuntu is bad, take a peek in #ubuntu sometime
[00:26] <vmplanet> what can i do to upgrade kde 3.5.9 to KDE 4?
[00:26] <Dragnslcr> vmplanet- what version of Kubuntu?
[00:26] <terrestre> minaqua, you can go to add/remove and install ubuntu-restricted-extras, medibuntu its for encripted dvd
[00:26] <thompa> mefisto__: well it allows up to 8G and if you dont watch it then you cant burn
[00:27] <vmplanet> Dragnslcr: its 8.04
[00:27] <Fujisan> lol
[00:27] <thompa> mefisto__: before when i put dvd in i think k3b had the limit of my single layer dvd
[00:27] <Dragnslcr> vmplanet- I believe the package is kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[00:27] <thompa> mefisto__: is there a way to split the projecy in half
[00:27] <thompa> *project
[00:27] <Dragnslcr> vmplanet- should be pretty easy to find in Adept
[00:28] <TheGentleman> anyone knows how to upgrade 7.10 to 8.04 using the alternate CD ? it doesn't work following instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu.
[00:28] <Fujisan> i just see all my questions being scrolled away i mean if a bot would assign a ticket to it so i didnt have to repaste it and someone could just pick it up at some random time and message it back to me that would be better than this chaotic randomness
[00:28] <thompa> mefisto__: it might as well be a bug, because you wont know how much space is left
[00:29] <Fujisan> a little structure can't be that bad plus you could built a nice archive for future references
[00:29] <thompa> guess i got to buy dual layer dvds, ive used k3b for years so this suks
[00:29] <vmplanet> thank you Dragnslcr!
[00:29] <Dragnslcr> Fujisan- I'm sure there are channel logs on someone's web site
[00:30] <mefisto__> thompa: just create a new project (it will appear as a new tab) and move half the items into the new project. drag and drop files on the tab of the new project
[00:30] <Fujisan> lol
[00:30] <thompa> mefisto__: thanks, obvious ,
[00:30] <Dragnslcr> Fujisan- if nobody answers your question after 10-15 minutes (or longer, if the channel is quiet), you can repeat it
[00:30] <Fujisan> ok
[00:30] <thompa> thompa: just slipped my mind i guess
[00:30] <Dragnslcr> Fujisan- you can also try asking in the forums
[00:31] <Fujisan> i found an app on kde-apps.org which is a kde version of ding named kding but it isnt in the repos so how do i download and install it?
[00:31] <thompa> thompa: :)
[00:31] <thompa> mefisto__: thanks
[00:32] <Dragnslcr> Fujisan- do they have a .deb that you can download?
[00:32] <flipstar> Fujisan: if it's a .deb download and click it
[00:32] <Fujisan> there is an .rpm
[00:32] <f00f> Fujisan: check if they have a deb package for it, if they do then just download that, if they don't you'll have to install dev packages and compile it.
[00:32] <Fujisan> on this site;
[00:32] <Fujisan> http://packman.links2linux.de/package/kding
[00:32] <flipstar> Fujisan: then convert it into .deb using alien
[00:32] <f00f> install alien, run alien on that rpm, and try that
[00:32] <Fujisan> alien is in the repos?
[00:32] <Fujisan> ok thanks
[00:33] <JackWinter> is there an utility to display network throughout and which program is using what bandwitdh >
[00:33] <crimsun> JackWinter: darkstat
[00:33] <sumant> flipstar: thanks buddy, hopefully will get that modem running after a few Konversations :)
[00:34] <wesley> freq_table              5536  2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand  what dies this mean
[00:34] <minaqua> thX terrestre
[00:34] <flipstar> sumant: just replace Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0 in the file with some entry's you found and try
[00:34] <sumant> mefisto__: thanks buddy ,hopefully will get that modem running after a few Konversations :)
[00:34] <sumant> flipstar: yeah am doing that
[00:34] <trident523> JackWinter: Up to you... some are command line. Here's a good link. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html
[00:34] <navetz> can anyone please help me set up a mail server that will work with php mail();
[00:35] <sumant> flipstar: wvdial needs to be enter in a new shell right?
[00:35] <flipstar> sumant: no, but else there's no output
[00:35] <Fujisan> oh boy alien is commandline only?
[00:35] <flipstar> Fujisan: it needs no arguments
[00:36] <flipstar> just the .deb
[00:37] <sumant> flipstar: u mena just edit the modem line(keep editing the dev/...line
[00:37] <sumant> flipstar: i will change it n try
[00:37] <Fujisan> http://www.getdeb.net/ <-- i'll just try this site instead cmdlines scare me :(
[00:38] <sumant> flipstar: is there a gui method? just curious
[00:39] <richard> Does googleearth run with 8.04? I've installed it and it doesn't appear that it will. . ..
[00:39] <flipstar> sumant: knetworkmanager usally
[00:39] <sumant> flipstar: am trying that then
[00:40] <flipstar> richard: sure..it should you installed via googleearth-package ?
[00:40] <sumant> flipstar: what do u think of ubuntu, is it the same or a bit tougher than Kubuntu, for a new linux user?
[00:41] <flipstar> its just a question of personal preferences
[00:41] <Fujisan> alien -d file [...] < --- is that the proper command to convert .rpm to .deb ?
[00:41] <richard> I just got it running must not have had all the software loaded that I needed. Tried it earlier and it would work. It does now. Thanks for the responses. . . .
[00:41] <sumant> ic, imean i dont know programming, have used Windows all my life...int hta sense
[00:42] <sumant> flipstar:  ic, imean i dont know programming, have used Windows all my life...int hta sense
[00:42] <Walzmyn> Anybody here using KDE4?
[00:42] <flipstar> Fujisan: <alien file.deb>
[00:42] <trident523> Walzmyn: I was/can.
[00:42] <flipstar> Fujisan: err sorry <alien file.rpm>
[00:42] <sumant> flipstar: i heard ubuntu has a firewall, that doesnt have a GUI,
[00:43] <Walzmyn> trident523, is it very quite?
[00:43] <Walzmyn> trident523, i've got my volumn maxed, but I can bearly hear anything
[00:43] <sumant> flipstar: in kubuntu  Firestarter has a gui, or does firestarter run on both the OSes
[00:43] <trident523> Walzmyn: It is quiter for me too... and I can't get the mixer to open in it.
[00:43] <flipstar> sumant: sure
[00:44] <sumant> flipstar: so how old are you with linux?
[00:45] <chris32882> how do I search for another computer on the network? samba isn't finding it :(
[00:45] <Walzmyn> trident523, i can get the mixer open, but it's still quite
[00:45] <trident523> chris32882: Another windows computer? Linux? OS X?
[00:45] <chris32882> win xp
[00:46] <trident523> chris32882: Is sharing enabled on the XP computer?
[00:46] <chris32882> yes it is, was before when I had vista on this machine
[00:46] <flipstar> sumant: i use linux since a few years now
[00:46] <chris32882> blah to vista
[00:46] <sumant> flipstar: only linux/
[00:46] <sumant> ?
[00:46] <flipstar> yes
[00:46] <Fujisan> !vista
[00:46] <ubotu> Vista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[00:47] <sumant> flipstar: cool, i too want to use only linux, but just bcos of some programs that i need  at work, n the slow modem
[00:47] <Walzmyn> Good Lord - I've not been following this conversation - but this laptop came with Vista. Lets just say that Kubuntu was a BIG upgrade
[00:47] <sumant> flipstar: have to stick to ms win, linux is way safer than windows i believe
[00:48] <chris32882> yah vista is memory hog
[00:48] <Walzmyn> not just memory - nothing worked. I couldn't do anything.
[00:49] <eatatjoes2> i was wondering if anyone knew how to install vmware?
[00:49] <eatatjoes2> i tried to install it but it says package doesnt exist
[00:49] <chris32882> trident523: yes its sharing, I doubled check to be sure
[00:49] <sumant> ubotu: thanks for thta link
[00:50] <chris32882> ubotu is a bot o.o
[00:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot o.o - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:50] <sumant> :)) it says im only a bot
[00:50] <sumant> :))
[00:50] <terrestre> !kvm > eatatjoes2
[00:50] <Fujisan> !humor
[00:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about humor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:50] <terrestre> !kvm > terrestre
[00:50] <Fujisan> !debian
[00:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[00:51] <terrestre> !windows
[00:51] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[00:52] <sumant> flipstar: is this irc same line instant messaging
[00:52] <spaz> 'ello
[00:52] <trident523> !hello | spaz
[00:53] <ubotu> spaz: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[00:53] <sumant> flipstar: i mean how can i add to my buddy list
[00:53] <spaz> i installed kubuntu, but i've had one problem
[00:53] <spaz> hah
[00:53] <spaz> :p
[00:53] <spaz> nice one
[00:53] <spaz> anyway
[00:53] <flipstar> sumant: no, irc and instant messaging are two different things
[00:53] <spaz> the problem is that it hangs on boot
[00:53] <trident523> !ask | spaz
[00:53] <ubotu> spaz: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:53] <spaz> -_-
[00:53] <trident523> Am I a bot?
[00:53] <spaz> !stop-using-the-bot-:P
[00:53] <flipstar> eatatjoes2: vmware is not in the repo's you got to grab it from the website
[00:53] <spaz> anyway
[00:53] <wesley> how do i get cpufreq_powersave on
[00:54] <eatatjoes2> i was wondering if anyone knew how to install vmware?
[00:54] <spaz> it hangs on boot, right after saying "Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20"
[00:54] <trident523> !virturalbox | eatatjoes2
[00:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virturalbox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:54] <trident523> ... whoops.
[00:54] <spaz> haha
[00:54] <mefisto__> isn't the package vmware-server ??
[00:54] <trident523> !VirtualBox | eatatjoes2
[00:54] <ubotu> eatatjoes2: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[00:54] <eatatjoes2> i tried that
[00:54] <chris32882> trident523: is there something else I can use to to find   the other computer?
[00:54] <trident523> Oh.
[00:55] <flipstar> !find vmware-server
[00:55] <ubotu> No packages matching 'vmware-server' could be found
[00:55] <trident523> eatatjoes2: Well, you can install vmware, but I tried it once, and I nothing that exciting happned.
[00:55] <eatatjoes2> is virtualbox better than vmware for running xp?
[00:55] <macisp2000> anyone know why my compiz manager is not showing the icons next to each checkmark box settings?
[00:55] <trident523> eatatjoes2: I think so, but I haven't tried it yet.
[00:56] <spaz> oh yay. i got stuck in busybox.
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> eatatjoes2: its simpler to set up, yes
[00:56] <wesley> how set i cpufreq_powersave  on ?
[00:56] <chris32882> hmm
[00:56] <trident523> spaz: something didn't boot correctly aparrently.
[00:56] <eatatjoes2> Couldn't find package vmware-server
[00:56] <eatatjoes2> is the error i get
[00:56] <spaz> trident523, apparently :\
[00:57] <flipstar> eatatjoes2: use kvm if you need to run vmware images
[00:58] <xenol> can anyone tell me how can i make xorg to start  up at boot? i started with minimal cd :>
[00:58] <wesley> !talking against stones
[00:58] <minaqua> the only prob I have had is that when I try to use the proprietary video driver my system gets sOoOoOoOoO slow
[00:58] <TheGentleman> anyone knows how to upgrade 7.10 to 8.04 using the alternate CD ? it doesn't work following instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu.
[00:58] <trident523> minaqua: What kind of graphics hard do you have?
[00:58] <minaqua> anyone know how 2 fiX?
[00:58] <nosrednaekim> TheGentleman: what you do is boot up 7.10, then pop in the alternate
[00:59] <minaqua> nVidia
[00:59] <trident523> TheGentleman: Where does it hang?
[00:59] <spaz> ugh
[00:59] <spaz> ><
[00:59] <TheGentleman> nosrednaekim, and trident523 : it simply says cdromupgrade: command not found
[01:00] <teddy_> hello. I have a question about compiling a custom kernel. dont know if this is really the place to ask though
[01:00] <flipstar> wesley: running powernowd .. ?
[01:00] <spaz> ugh
[01:00] <spaz> :(
[01:00] <Dragnslcr> I had the same problem using the DVD
[01:00]  * spaz headdesks
[01:00] <crimsun> teddy_: see man make-kpkg, which means you need the 'kernel-package' package installed.
[01:00] <teddy_> does anyone know what "proccessor family" an amd sempron 3000+ is?
[01:00] <teddy_> i know that i just meant an option in the menuconfig
[01:01] <wesley> flipstar how ?
[01:01] <trident523> TheGentleman: So, you've burned the alt-cd, correct? Well, if you add it as a repository (if I remembered how to do that in adept) you can force an upgrade from that, I think.
[01:01] <flipstar> teddy_: why not using xconfgi .. ?
[01:01] <flipstar> *xconfig
[01:01] <trident523> spaz: my desk would break if I headesked it.
[01:01] <teddy_> well i actually found the menuconfig easier
[01:01] <flipstar> teddy_: okay but there it is described
[01:02] <TheGentleman> that's an idea trident523   Still, there is poor quality information on the website
[01:02] <flipstar> wesley: go to services and start..?
[01:02] <trident523> TheGentleman: Let me boot into KDE to try to follow the directions through-ish... and to see where the add CD as repo thing is.
[01:02] <thompa> k3b is a little tricky at first for 2 single layer dvds
[01:02] <thompa> for new user ie
[01:03] <TheGentleman> thanks trident no need to do that:
[01:03] <spaz> yay i fixed it
[01:03] <TheGentleman>  i think i can manage it myself.  thanks for thinking a simle solution
[01:03] <spaz> lol
[01:03] <spaz> i have no room to actually headdesk
[01:04] <thompa> mefisto__: it worked in k3b but you have to complete the first half of 8g first
[01:04] <ahmos> hi. i noticed in kubuntu gusty that when i click an icon it animates (zoom in).which programme responsible of that animation?
[01:04] <spaz> not a program ahmos, it's part of the desktop
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> spaz: haha
[01:04] <spaz> brb
[01:04] <TheGentleman> thanks trident523  i apreciate your help, but i think i can manage it by myself now  ;-)
[01:04] <thompa> mefisto__: its not obvious if you have a large file size more than dvd capacity
[01:04] <trident523> TheGentleman: Kay... do this. open Adept.. really? m'kay.
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> ahmos: go into kcontrol->appearance->launch feedback I think
[01:05] <thompa> this is the best kde setup yet
[01:05] <teddy_> found it out.. x config didnt work. i just had a suspicion to google k7 family :)
[01:05] <trident523> thompa: Your computer? Kubuntu? Me? *please be me*
[01:05] <TheGentleman> yes trident523  and anyway i guess the problem is in some way related to how the cd is mounted
[01:05] <trident523> TheGentleman: My CD pops up in Software sources as checkable... then follow the directions from there.
[01:06] <TheGentleman> ok thanks again trident523 !  :)
[01:06] <ahmos> ok thank u all..but does it something related to kwin or kicker?
[01:06] <trident523> Oh, #kubuntu... does anyone know of a mac comp... eh plan B.
[01:06] <thompa> trident523: only problem is the walkman bug
[01:06] <trident523> Does anyone know of a mac-centric channel on freenode?
[01:07] <wesley> get this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8288/
[01:08] <thompa> so anyone know how to get walkman to automount? Its since a kernel upgrade i think?
[01:09] <Tailsfan> Hello, does anyone else have trobule comfiguring the Ralink Drivers from Source?
[01:11] <sumant> flipstar: thanks for the help, take care
[01:11] <thompa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/209483
[01:11] <sumant> flipstar: whats ur id on IMs?
[01:11] <Tailsfan> because I wanted my one adapter to show up as rausb0 and not wlan#
[01:12] <thompa> *link to walkman bug
[01:16] <Jimmy1> hello
[01:16] <Tailsfan> Hi There, having problems too?
[01:16] <Jimmy1> hahah
[01:16] <Jimmy1> as always
[01:16] <spaz> wtf :(
[01:17] <spaz> now X went crazy
[01:17] <spaz> i tried restarting kdm
[01:17] <spaz> and even x11-common
[01:17] <spaz> but now i try to use X and it's just a blank black screen
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> spaz: do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to get a new config
[01:19] <spaz> nosrednaekim, didn't modify it, but same story
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> oh.. ok
[01:20]  * spaz attemps a reboot
[01:21] <wesley> how set i cpufreq_powersave  on ?
[01:21] <AMIGrAve> got an nvidia 8800M and xorg starts at 800x600. Came to drivers management and saw nvidia_new checked but a label on the right tells : "not in used".  Have to reboot each time because wifi not working
[01:25] <Makuseru> hi, i just installed 8.04+KDE4 and i accidently closed the taskbar, how do i get it back?
[01:25] <thompa> AMIGrAve: is it an acer?
[01:25] <AMIGrAve> thompa: HP Pavillon HDX
[01:25] <thompa> i got enough probs with atheros and acpi
[01:26] <Tailsfan> I keep on getting errors that invilve with the string SET_MODULE_OWNER
[01:26] <artint> troll alert
[01:26] <artint> troll alert
[01:26] <thompa> you have to uncheck the hardware devices boxes and then get the one from madwifi
[01:26] <Tailsfan> ???
[01:26] <Tailsfan> What troll alert
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> Makuseru: run "killall plasma && rm .kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc && plasma"
[01:27] <thompa> someone who posts same thing twice I think
[01:28] <Makuseru> nosrednaekim: thanks
[01:28] <GS3User> hi, i'm having some network troubles. i recently switched to using openDNS on my router, and now my kubuntu 7.10 box is not seen on my local network. it cannot successfully ping either the router, or my xp box, but it does have access to the internet. how do i fix this?
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: you can't ping local IP's?
[01:29] <artint> troll alert troll alert troll alert
[01:29] <Makuseru> is there a simple way to remove KDE4 and install KDE3?
[01:29] <Dragnslcr> Makuseru- install kubuntu-desktop
[01:29] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: no, pinging <IP_ADDRESS> (my router) fails, as does <IP_ADDRESS> (my XP box). Also, my XP box cannot ping Kubuntu either
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: wow... thats odd... what does your /etc/resolv.conf look like?
[01:30] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: kicks out a list of DNS servers
[01:30] <Makuseru> Dragnslcr: and how do i remove KDE4?
[01:31] <Dragnslcr> Makuseru- you don't have to, unless you really need the disk space
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> can you pastebin it?
[01:32] <eatatjoes2> does anyone have a tutorial or something for install vmware on hardy?
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> !vmware
[01:32] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[01:32] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: http://pastebin.com/mb88b6cd
[01:33] <eatatjoes2> what about vmware server
[01:33] <NDPTAL85> Does Kubuntu have issues with HDs say 6GB large?
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: my resolv.conf actuallyhas its first line as "search lan"
[01:34] <artint> t r o l l         a l e r t !
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: maybe thats significant?
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> NDPTAL85: for installation?
[01:34] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: should i edit it?
[01:34] <NDPTAL85> nosrednaekim: I'm able to install but it won't boot
[01:34] <Dragnslcr> NDPTAL85- that should be enough space if you just need a web browser and Kopete
[01:35] <NDPTAL85> Then I don't know whats going on.
[01:35] <NDPTAL85> This is so strange
[01:35] <NDPTAL85> I've put the drive in another computer and am re-installing Kubuntu to see if it'll work there
[01:36] <artint>  t R o L l             A l E r T
[01:36] <NDPTAL85> artint: Why do you keep doing that? Who is the troll?
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: yeah... why not :)
[01:36] <MilitantPotato> Hey all, has anyone had a problem shutting down/restarting?  Xserver seems to lockup after closing applications
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> NDPTAL85: he is.. duh :P
[01:36] <MilitantPotato> using sudo shutdown -r now works fine though.
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: do you have an ATI
[01:37] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: without the quotes, right?
[01:37] <MilitantPotato> yes, with the 8.4 fglrx
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: yes
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: yep.. annoying isn't it?
[01:37] <MilitantPotato> nosrednaekim: is this a hardy problem?
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: its a fglrx problem
[01:37] <MilitantPotato> Odd, worked in feisty.  Bummer
[01:38] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: still getting the same error when I ping my router
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: you have to restart networking
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> after editing that file
[01:38] <artint> thank god that troll is gone
[01:38] <artint> he was flooding me
[01:38] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: is there an easy way to do that?
[01:38] <MilitantPotato> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart GS3User
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: yeah.... some other guy and I spent a long time trying to figure out how to circumvent it....nothing
[01:39] <navetz> can someone here help me set up postfix?
[01:39] <MilitantPotato> nosrednaekim: could I make some sort of shortcut on the desktop to run sudo shutdown -r now?
[01:39] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: restarting networking didn't help either
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> without the GS3User of course :)
[01:39] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: of course
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: make it "kdesudo" so that you get a nice password dialog
[01:40] <MilitantPotato> nosrednaekim: will do, easier then ctrl+alt+f1
[01:40] <MilitantPotato> nosrednaekim: do I need " of some sort?
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> no
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> oh... yeah
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> kdesudo "command"
[01:41] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: any other ideas?
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: no <_<
[01:41] <MilitantPotato> kdesudo "blah -r now"
[01:41] <MilitantPotato> ?
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[01:43] <MilitantPotato> hmm, where are Icon themes stored?
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> the ocns should be in /usr/share/pixmaps
[01:46] <GS3User> anyone else familiar with troubleshooting kubuntu's networking?
[01:47] <chris32882> not me
[01:47] <chris32882> havingt a problem with it too
[01:47] <chris32882> using samba trying to find my xp computer
[01:47] <GS3User> chris32822: kubuntu can't even ping my router (but xp can). neither computer sees the other, but both have access to the 'net
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: hmmmm try something. add your router as a nameserver
[01:49] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: nope, still says "Destination port unreachable" when I try and ping
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> woah... never seent hat error before
[01:50] <santiago-ve> which error?
[01:50] <GS3User> "destination port unreachable" when trying to ping my router
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: might want to google that error
[01:51] <chris32882> hmm
[01:52] <santiago-ve> GS3User: did you disabled pings from inside the lan?
[01:52] <santiago-ve> my router has that sexy option
[01:52] <GS3User> santiago-ve: my XP box can ping the router without issue
[01:53] <santiago-ve> ok, that's weird then
[01:53] <santiago-ve> :S
[01:53] <GS3User> santiago-ve: yeah
[01:54] <santiago-ve> GS3User: ping -b <routerip>
[01:55] <GS3User> santiago-ve: still getting the destination port unreachable deal
[01:57] <matt___> just wondering if anyone knew of any really nice screensavers for linux, exluding electric sheep
[01:57] <chris32882> I am unable to view webcam in kopete, where can I get jasper image converter..says I need it
[01:59] <Taladan> chris32882: try sudo apt-get install libjasper-runtime
[02:00] <chris32882> ty Taladan
[02:00]  * Taladan nods
[02:00] <chris32882> I was trying jasper that didn't work
[02:00] <santiago-ve> GS3User: and that0s the machine youre connected from?
[02:00] <Taladan> chris32882: something that will help you in the future: apt-cache search <string>
[02:01] <Taladan> too late...
[02:01] <GS3User> santiago-ve: i am currently on the machine that's having problems, yes
[02:03] <shree_> anyone in there who knows how to perform voice chat in kubuntu using gmail id
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> shree_: you can't currently
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> shree_: yell at google for that :)
[02:04] <MilitantPotato> google is probably working on it
[02:04] <shree_> nosrednaekim: is it possible to install the gnome apps in kde like ladnell, ereseva
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> oh eys
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> *yes
[02:05] <sponix> ... kde4 ... say I want to install "kubuntu-desktop" from my normal ubuntu-desktop install, but with kde4, is there an easy way to go about that ?
[02:05] <MilitantPotato> kde4-base IIRC
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> yeah... kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[02:06] <MilitantPotato> ah, nvm
[02:06] <MilitantPotato> I'm holding out for 4.1
[02:06] <Taladan> hm, I though tit was kde4-core
[02:06] <shree_> nosrednaekim: do you know any reason why the apps are gnome based but not kde based
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> shree_: some pogrammers prefer different toolkits
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> "gnome based" are written in gtk, KDE based are written in Qt
[02:07] <shree_> nosrednaekim: has there been any positive resposne from people who have tried to install ladnell, ereseva etc on kde
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> if its in the repositories, it will work in ANY desktop manager
[02:08] <MilitantPotato> the memory leak I had in gutsy seems to be gone, thankfully
[02:08] <shree_> nosrednaekim: as in when i try sudo apt-get, it doesnt recognize those app names
[02:08] <GS3User> how do i edit my kernel ip routing table?
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> shree_: where are you looking at getting them from then?
[02:09] <Taladan> shree_: try apt-cache search <package>
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: "man route"
[02:09] <MilitantPotato> shree_: open synaptic?
[02:09] <Taladan> shree_: it'll get the correct package name for you
[02:09] <Taladan> shree_: but you probably want to enable all your repos in /etc/apt/sources.lst
[02:09] <Taladan> shree_: Except for the cdrom repo, at least.
[02:09] <shree_> how do i do that
[02:09] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: let me rephrase... how do i edit the source of the output from the command "netstat -rn"
[02:10] <shree_> Taladan: how do i enable the repos
[02:10] <Taladan> shree_: which cli text editor do you use?
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: yeah.. with route
[02:10] <shree_> Taladan: vi editor
[02:11] <Taladan> shree - sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak  then sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:12] <Taladan> Then remove the # from each line that starts with deb<foo>
[02:12] <Taladan> then :wq, then sudo apt-get update
[02:12] <shree_> nosrednaekim: i was thinking of downloading it from their svn repos
[02:13] <shree_> nosrednaekim: but as you say it is possible that i  have not enavbled a ll the repos on my system
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> shree_: well, you'll have to compile manually. BUt I assure you, anything that will rum in GNOME will run in KDE, you just need the proper libraries
[02:13] <shree_> nosrednaekim: so i will need to install the gnome libraries rite
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[02:15] <Taladan> shree_: generally if you use apt-get install <package> it will fulfill the dependencies with the correct libraries - assuming the package is indeed in the reop
[02:15] <Taladan> shree_: what are you trying to install?
[02:15] <rydan> Just installed 8.04 with KDE4.  I saw screenshots where someone had comic strips on a widget. it's not on the list here.  anyone know how i can add it?
[02:15] <shree_> Taladan: i want to install either landell or ereseva but it doesnt show up on my apt-cache result
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> rydan: grab the package "plasma-extragear" or extragear-plasma... nto sure which
[02:16] <rydan> thank you!
[02:17] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: is it possible that i download from their svn and then use sudo spt-get.....kinda idea
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> shree_: no...
[02:17] <Taladan> shree_: no
[02:17] <shree_> nosrednaekim: Taladan: :)
[02:18] <Taladan> shree_: Though...iirc there is a way to use make and dpkg together to fulfill prereqs for a package....been a year since I've done that though
[02:18] <shree_> Taladan: iirc???
[02:18] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: I am not upto that level
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> if I remember correctly
[02:18] <Taladan> (if I remember correctly)
[02:19] <Taladan> or you could check their sites and see if they have a .deb available and just install that with dpkg
[02:20] <shree_> Taladan: crap... they have a i386 deb not a amd64
[02:21] <wizard_> can someone give me a more up-to-date guide on compiz fusion for hardy?
[02:21] <Taladan> shree_: good luck with that one then...I was never able to get i386 stuff working in a 64 environment, though I know there's others who have
[02:22] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: you wouldnt recommend using the source code to create the package??
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> shree_: its not exactly easy
[02:23] <Taladan> shree_: I would research it first and see if there's anyone else running it in a 64 bit environment and if so what steps they took to get it to work
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> but you can't really ruin anything either, so give it a shot :)
[02:23] <Taladan> point
[02:24] <Taladan> the most you'll do is compile it, futz with it for 6 hours until you're angry at yourself, the machine, and the entire world then just rm -rf the directory you installed it into.
[02:24] <shree_> Taladan: : :)
[02:25] <Taladan> though...
[02:25] <Taladan> you do know that skype will run on kubuntu/ubuntu, right?
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> yea
[02:25] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: ok
[02:25] <lelle> i got 4gigs and installed kubuntu 64-bit, but still only see 3gigs. what's up with that?
[02:26] <Taladan> The one thing that i've found about most of the voip stuff I use is that I can (usually) get it working fairly well on my machine, but when I want to talk to most windows users it's like pulling teeth to get them to install anything else on their machines, and most of them know of skype at least tangentially
[02:26] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: can i contact gmail users from skype
[02:26] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: ??
[02:26] <Taladan> hmm...I dunno
[02:27] <Taladan> I think it's just skype-centric
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> shree_: don't think so
[02:27] <Taladan> but...
[02:27] <Taladan> hm...not that I know of
[02:29] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: I guess I should yell at Google, for leaving the last piece of this puzzle hidden
[02:31] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: ??
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> yep :)
[02:32] <Taladan> sure....though I wouldn't hold my breath for a solution.  Best bet is to try and figure out how to get the other stuff you've found to work in your environment.  A few hours research may turn up something wholly useful
[02:33] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: hmm. let me see what I can do. there is another arvind who is also helping me
[02:37] <arvind_khadri> Taladan, everything needs to be complied from SVN ,its a real pain
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> lelle: whats "uname -a" say?
[02:39] <Taladan> hm...sounds like it's something that's extremely bleeding edge yet and will, at best, work only partially
[02:39] <arvind_khadri> yeah ... its time we had a .deb for a nice complete messenger
[02:40]  * Taladan nods
[02:40] <Taladan> hence why I tend to use pidgin for all IM needs and skype for all voip needs
[02:40] <haettulegur> im having a 'fsck failed' problem -- can anyone please help?
[02:40] <lelle> nosrednaekim: Linux soda 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 12:47:45 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:40]  * arvind_khadri smiles
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> lelle: and the output of "free -m" first line will do
[02:41] <Taladan> it's not that much of a hassle, though it would be nice to have a good dependable client that handled both
[02:41] <thefuzz4> does anyone have any suggestions about when I log out the computer just goes to a blank screen and I have to ctrl alt del a lot to get it to reboot?
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> thefuzz4: you have an ATI card, right?
[02:41] <thefuzz4> yep
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> thefuzz4: UHHH! I hate that bug :)
[02:41] <lelle> nosrednaekim: Mem:          3019        767       2251          0         54        400   (note: integrated nforce GF7100 got 256megs)
[02:41] <arvind_khadri> actually everything even cams..kopete does but is kinda sluggish doesnt read from the other end if its windows
[02:41] <Taladan> haettulegur: what'd you do /before/ you go the fsck failed msg?
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> lelle: thats most interesting.... sure you don't have some bad ram there?
[02:42] <Taladan> arvind_khadri: exactly....hence why I use each seperately
[02:42] <haettulegur> Taladan: i restarted the system (everything was running sort of slowly)
[02:42] <totocool> Hi all i`ve installed the extra widgets package for kde 4 but there are no extra widgets, when i tried to install a single widget from kde-look.org , but when i try to view the new widgets - there are no new widgets
[02:42] <Taladan> haettulegur: how did you restart it?
[02:42] <totocool> any idea how to install them
[02:43] <haettulegur> Taladan: start -> log off -> restart
[02:43] <Taladan> and what fs are you using?
[02:43] <arvind_khadri> Taladan, i am using Windows only for the cam reason :)
[02:43] <totocool> I`m using the .deb packages for kubuntu
[02:43] <osiris> hello.  just updated to hardy, and have sudoers issues.
[02:43] <haettulegur> Taladan: ? (im a newb, not sure what you're asking)
[02:43] <osiris>  sudo apt-get install gkrellm
[02:43] <osiris> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 12 <<<
[02:43] <osiris> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 12
[02:43] <lelle> nosrednaekim: 2 x 2gig memory-sticks ... even memtest says 3gig ... and the Gigabyte motherboard says it supports up to 4gigs. Can't find any bios option either.
[02:44] <Taladan> haettulegur: when you installed it did you format your partitions standard or did you change them to something like vfat or reiserfs or ext2?
[02:44] <thefuzz4> lelle: are you running 32 or 64bit?
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> lelle: I'm thinkin the MB doesn't support it
[02:44] <shree_> Taladan: a quick question, when a source code is written, is it meant for a particular architecture or does it depend on where you compile it
[02:44] <lelle> thefuzz4: 64 bit
[02:44] <haettulegur> Taladan: sorry, i got disconnected. last thing you asked was what fs i was using. im not sure
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> shree_: most Open source programs can be compiled on either
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> Taladan: though sometimes they do write specific code for either
[02:45] <Taladan> haettulegur: when you installed it did you format your partitions standard or did you change them to something like vfat or reiserfs or ext2?
[02:45]  * Taladan nods to nosrednaekim
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> *shree_: ^^
[02:45] <haettulegur> Taladan: i just followed the standard installation
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> Taladan: sorry, wrong nicl :P
[02:45] <shree_> nosrednaekim: i didnt understand that
[02:45] <Taladan> haettulegur: that means you're using the ext3 filesystem
[02:45] <olrrai> hello
[02:45] <shree_> nosrednaekim:  :0
[02:46] <arvind_khadri> shree_, sometimes the package comes arch dependent
[02:46] <Taladan> are you logged into a maintenance cli there?
[02:46] <shree_> nosrednaekim:  :)
[02:46] <haettulegur> Taladan: btw, im fine with just finding a way to backup all my data (i was in the middle of a backup when my hd crashed!!), and then reformatting everything if that's easier
[02:46] <Taladan> cli - command line interface
[02:46] <olrrai> do u know a good video editor and video format converter?
[02:46] <haettulegur> Taladan: yes
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> olrrai: try avidemux
[02:46] <olrrai> ok
[02:46] <Taladan> Okay, give me a minute to dig...been a bit
[02:47] <shree_> arvind_khadri: hmmm. then it is a problem
[02:47] <haettulegur> Taladan: im at the state where...it said to run fsck manually, so i typed 'fsck. and now it says "error reading block *some numbers* whel getting next inode from scan. Ignore error?"
[02:47] <Taladan> can you private me with the output of the command -> mount
[02:47] <arvind_khadri> shree_, about wat??
[02:47] <Taladan> hm
[02:47] <shree_> arvind_khadri: if it is arch dpeendent
[02:47] <Taladan> try CTRL+C
[02:48] <arvind_khadri> shree_, which package??
[02:48] <Taladan> haettulegur: sorry, try CTRL+C then type: fsck.ext3 /dev/hda1
[02:48] <matt__> after trying out the compiz desktop settings crap, i decided to uninstall compiz*, but now what do i need to do to get back to the normalcy?
[02:48] <haettulegur> Taladan: "no such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hda1. The superblock could not be read..."
[02:48] <shree_> arvind_khadri: i mean if either landell or ereseva is arch dependent, then we will not land up wih a working isntallation
[02:49] <Taladan> haettulegur: then try /dev/sda1
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> matt__- if compiz is still running, you can run kwin --replace
[02:49] <haettulegur> Taladan: "you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck -b 8193 <device>"
[02:49] <arvind_khadri> shree_, they arent arch dependent ... as they are scripts checking your environment and setting theselves properly
[02:49] <Taladan> oy....you've got a corrupted superblock and I can't remember how to figure out where the next valid sb is
[02:49] <haettulegur> Taladan: ah, ok, it's running a check again now
[02:49] <matt__> Dragnslcr: i'll give it a try
[02:50] <arvind_khadri> shree_, i cant compress a whole big concept in some few lines :) that was confusing
[02:50] <shree_> arvind_khadri: what you mean is that, if they detect a different arch, they will report a error
[02:50] <haettulegur> Taladan: (the /dev/sda1 thing is running)
[02:50] <shree_> arvind_khadri: in case they are arch dependent
[02:51] <haettulegur> Taladan: is there a way of using a livecd and backing up all my data from that? (it's just what i've seen from some random googling, so just curious)
[02:51] <arvind_khadri> shree_, in case they are arch dependent they wont install spitting errors .... but AFAIK sources from SVN arent arch dependent or even if they are the tool using to get them resolves it and gets the one you need to have
[02:52] <chris32882> I need help networking with my xp computer with kubuntu, I'm using samba but I can't see my xp system
[02:52] <shree_> kk
[02:52] <Taladan> haettulegur: *nods*  You might also check out a -> "cat /etc/fstab" when that's done and look for a line that looks like UUID=<some big alphanumeric>    ext3  defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1   and make sure that's the only line in there that has a '1' in the last column.
[02:52] <ubuntu> hey
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> hello ubuntu
[02:53] <Taladan> haettulegur: sure, you can use a livecd and mount up your harddrive and pull all of your data either to another machine or to a partition you create onto the drive with something like qpart or gparted.
[02:53] <shree_> arvind_khadri: do you think we will give a try compiling it. I have not much of an idea :). I will need guidance
[02:53] <Taladan> haettulegur: but first let the fsck go through - it's pretty adaptive and can generally fix any fs errors it comes across
[02:53] <arvind_khadri> shree_, that would be on a bleeding edge ... actually would need to read the source first ...
[02:53] <haettulegur_> ack, sorry, poor wireless (but i'm wired now :))
[02:54] <ubuntu> i am new to kubuntu, just now came , any body give the ebook to kubuntu
[02:54] <Taladan> haettulegur: sure, you can use a livecd and mount up your harddrive and pull all of your data either to another machine or to a partition you create onto the drive with something like qpart or gparted.<resay>
[02:54] <arvind_khadri> shree_, i can help am not saying no,but may take up the whole day
[02:54] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ah, im getting the same error as beffore: 'error reading block...while getting next inode from scan. ignore error?'
[02:54] <Taladan> haettulegur: but first let the fsck go through - it's pretty adaptive and can generally fix any fs errors it comes across<resay>
[02:54] <Taladan> haettulegur: does it give you the superblock number?
[02:54] <shree_> arvind_khadri: isnt it that it is about running the configure script, make and then install
[02:54] <haettulegur_> Taladan: error reading block 21233684
[02:55] <arvind_khadri> shree_, :) not always you need to check if it requires something else
[02:56] <arvind_khadri> shree_, make sometimes takes hours to run
[02:56] <shree_> you mean some other packages?
[02:56] <arvind_khadri> shree_, yeah
[02:56] <Taladan> haettulegur: okay...this is going to be a little...um...weird
[02:56] <arvind_khadri> shree_, libs
[02:56] <Taladan> haettulegur: type: dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 > fsinfo.txt
[02:56] <haettulegur_> Taladan: so I should ctrl-c out of this to get to a command line first?
[02:57] <Taladan> haettulegur: yeah
[02:57] <shree_> arvind_khadri: do you think that info should be in the readme file of the tar ball
[02:57] <ubuntu> Taladan: is there any link of the kubuntu?
[02:57] <ubuntu> ebook
[02:57] <shree_> arvind_khadri: brb
[02:57] <ubuntu> ?
[02:57] <arvind_khadri> shree_, yeah there would be a requirements file ... you can find wat it needs
[02:57] <Taladan> ubuntu: hm?
[02:58] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ctrl-c-ing doesn't work (it just brought me to a new 'error-reading-block')
[02:58] <Taladan> haettulegur: hrm.  Try CTRL+C again
[02:58] <haettulegur_> Taladan: nope, no command line
[02:58] <Taladan> haettulegur: try ALT+F2
[02:59] <kubKid> ?
[02:59] <Taladan> can't remember if it opens up the other ttys in maintenance mode or not
[02:59] <haettulegur_> Taladan: just a black screen
[02:59] <Taladan> haettulegur: ALT+F1 then
[02:59] <Taladan> kubKid: I don't understand your question
[02:59] <arvind_khadri> Taladan, that ctrl+alt+f1
[03:00] <haettulegur_> Taladan: 'starting up...*some stuff*...no resume image, doing normal boot'
[03:00] <Taladan> arvind_khadri: if he's at CLI the ctrl shouldn't matter, but it can't hurt, might help just in case
[03:00] <Taladan> haettulegur: hit CTRL+D
[03:00]  * arvind_khadri smiles
[03:00] <minaqua> anyone happen to know to fix the video driver issue that is slowing my computer?
[03:00] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ctrl-D and ctrl-alt-f1 do nothing
[03:01] <Taladan> haettulegur: hate to say this then, it sounds like you may be frozen...I would first try rebooting the machine and let it try to fsck itself on initial boot...it may be able to recover the bad superblock, but I'm doubtful at this point
[03:02] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ok. ill get a livecd in the meantime :)
[03:02] <Taladan> haettulegur: yeah, do that, because even if you don't end up reinstalling your system, you can still repair it with the livecd
[03:03] <chris32882> I need help networking with my xp computer with kubuntu, I'm using samba but I can't see my xp system
[03:03] <chris32882> and my xp system is sharing
[03:03] <Taladan> chris32882: are you using simple file sharing on XP?
[03:03] <chris32882> was able to share with this pc, with vista before install of kubuntu
[03:04] <chris32882> I'm not sure, its just set up to share
[03:04] <Taladan> Then you're using simple file sharing
[03:04] <chris32882> ok than I am :)
[03:04] <TeslaTony> How do I go about locking my home directory out so other users can't view my files?
[03:05] <Taladan> When you open up network folders->samba shares on kubuntu what does it say?
[03:05] <Taladan> TeslaTony: chmod -R 700 /home/<user>
[03:05] <chris32882> it shows my home folder
[03:05] <haettulegur_> Taladan: how exactly do i boot into a livecd?
[03:05] <chris32882> on this machine
[03:06] <Taladan> haettulegur: drop it into the tray and let it boot from it.  If your bios isn't configured to boot from a CD before the hdd though you'll have to reconfig the boot order in the bios
[03:06] <shree_> arvind_khadri: hey, iam looking through this tar ball. it has some files and scripts like  like NEWS, README,mkinstalldirs, configure, makefile etc. install etc.
[03:06] <Taladan> chris32882: and you're sure samba is running?
[03:06] <TeslaTony> Taladan: Thanks.
[03:07] <Taladan> TeslaTony: welcome
[03:07] <arvind_khadri> shree_, which one??
[03:07] <chris32882> no I am not sure, how do I check to see if its running? I figured it was since the sama shares folder was there
[03:07] <Taladan> chris32882: open a terminal and type ps -ef|grep smb
[03:07] <shree_> arvind_khadri: oh, landell
[03:07] <chris32882> k
[03:07] <ronnie> any know if kubunu reads prefetch , bios, interrupt channels,??, they were set when I bought this old computer, but I have the option to put them on auto which lets the operating system choose config, wow I almost sound like a teckie geek lol
[03:08] <arvind_khadri> shree_, from where did you get the source??
[03:08] <shree_> arvind_khadri: i am looking at the tar ball from sourceforge
[03:08] <arvind_khadri> shree_, ok
[03:08] <arvind_khadri> shree_, so you want to get it working?
[03:08] <chris32882> arlight, done
[03:08] <shree_> arvind_khadri: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/landell/landell0.2_0.2.0.orig.tar.gz?modtime=1156779568&big_mirror=0
[03:08] <shree_> arvind_khadri: yup
[03:08] <shree_> arvind_khadri: BTW, where r u?
[03:09] <arvind_khadri> shree_, am in Bangalore....you
[03:09] <chris32882> want me to paste what it says in here?
[03:09] <haettulegur_> Taladan: hmm...so while trying to reboot into the livecd (i guess it's not configured to boot into a cd before the hd) i managed to get into what i think is a working command line (it asked me to login, and now ls and such works)
[03:09] <shree_> arvind_khadri: I am in Virginia
[03:09] <shree_> arvind_khadri: are you working
[03:09] <Taladan> chris32882: if it's got something besides 'grep smb' in there, then it's probably running.  Try a sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[03:09] <haettulegur_> Taladan: should i just try plugging an external hd in, and cp-ing everything over?
[03:10] <arvind_khadri> shree_, am a student and got a test tomorrow :)
[03:10] <shree_> arvind_khadri: which college
[03:10] <Taladan> haettulegur: well, which livecd are you using?
[03:10] <haettulegur_> Taladan: or actually booting into the livecd?
[03:10] <arvind_khadri> shree_, AMC Bannerghata road
[03:10] <haettulegur_> Taladan: livecd is kubuntu 7.10
[03:10] <arvind_khadri> shree_, pm me
[03:10] <shree_> arvind_khadri: good. i am a PESITian
[03:11] <Taladan> hm...it shouldn't boot directly into a commandline.  But it didn't say anything about fsck errors when you booted?
[03:11] <arvind_khadri> shree_, dont want to be scolded here :)
[03:11] <chris32882> says command not found
[03:11] <shree_> arvind_khadri: i guess you can study now
[03:11] <Taladan> chris32882: try changing samba to smb
[03:11] <haettulegur_> Taladan: err...yeah, nevermind...it now spontaneously is giving me errors. ill try going  into the livecd again
[03:11] <chris32882> still the same
[03:11] <shree_> arvind_khadri: i know the pressure of internals. lol
[03:11]  * Taladan can't remember which one it's put there under
[03:11] <Taladan> haettulegur_: what errors is it giving you?
[03:12] <lelle> nosrednaekim: SUCCESS! there was a new bios which fixed detecting wrong mem sizes ... now I have all my memory, wonder if I can go back to 32bit and still have all? 64bit seems to have slight issues still
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> lelle: no.. you can't
[03:13] <haettulegur_> Taladan: the same errors it gave me when i tried to fsck, i think. (not sure--i rebooted.) should i select 'start or install kubuntu' or 'start kubuntu in safe graphics mode' now?
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> but thats awesome :)
[03:13] <Taladan> start or install k
[03:14] <chris32882> hmm
[03:15] <ronnie> is anyone else finding kubuntu (hearty) takes longer to boot up than (gutsy)?, maybe I have some tweaking to work out = )
[03:15] <Taladan> chris32882: still the same what...is it not restarting samba?
[03:16] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ok, im now in. how do i copy my old folders over?
[03:16] <ronnie> or guess it could be the almost 25,000 package choices making it slower = )
[03:17] <Taladan> haettulegur_: what you're going to want to do is open a terminal, then type sudo mkdir /mnt/hdd
[03:17] <Taladan> haettulegur_: then sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/hdd
[03:17] <chris32882> Taladan: its saying "command not found"
[03:17] <Taladan> chris32882: what exactly are you typing?
[03:18] <chris32882> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart and that didn't work, so I did udo /etc/init.d/smb restart
[03:19] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ok
[03:19] <Taladan> haettulegur_: then you're going to want to make sure that your external hdd is mounted up (k should show it mounted on the desktop as a usb dev), open that up in a window and then open up another file browser window and navigate over to /mnt/hdd/home/<user> and then copy everything from one window to the other
[03:19] <Taladan> chris32882: udo or sudo?
[03:20] <Taladan> chris32882: where was the typo initially?
[03:20] <chris32882> sudo
[03:20] <chris32882> I miss typed it here
[03:21] <Taladan> chris32882: then I'd try typing sudo apt-get install samba
[03:21] <Taladan> chris32882: because it sounds like samba's not installed on that machine
[03:21] <chris32882> ok
[03:21] <chris32882> I'll try that now
[03:21] <earlh> has anyone here noticed that hardy is slow to shutdown / logout,  as well as locking up during these operations using ati fglrx
[03:22] <haettulegur_> Taladan: hmm, any idea why it says 'access denied' to certain files? (files that shouldn't have any special permissions...eg, pdf files that i made at the same time as others that don't get an access denied)
[03:22] <chris32882> installing now
[03:22] <Taladan> haettulegur_: could be set read only.  What I'd do is open up a terminal and type: sudo chmod -R 777 /mnt/hdd/home/
[03:23] <chris32882> installed, and started..checking seeing if its sharing
[03:25] <chris32882> Taladan: its a no go, still the same
[03:26] <chris32882> wont show other computer
[03:26]  * Taladan tries to remember how samba works...been a little bit
[03:26] <chris32882> heh makes 2 of us
[03:27] <Taladan> iirc, the last time I futzed around with samba, it just automagically picked up the windows shares.  Are you sure that the folders are still shared on the windows machines?  Also have you tried to smbmount the folders?
[03:27] <daemon3> Even though Hardy is cool, it wasn't as cool as I was expecting it to be.
[03:27] <daemon3> :)
[03:27] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ok, great!! thank you so (do while true loop) much!
[03:28] <daemon3> I just wanted to say..."Good job developers!"
  I got unbuntu 8.04 installed on this laptop and I got compiz installed also.  I need to know where the config is to have the cube effect.  I am only getting a 2D effect right now.
[03:29] <Taladan> haettulegur_: in fact..just for my ego, do you mind if I help you troubleshoot it on out for a few more minutes/
[03:29] <Taladan> ?
[03:30] <haettulegur_> Taladan: haha, anything you'd like :)
[03:30] <Taladan> haettulegur_: have a terminal open?
[03:31] <haettulegur_> yeah
[03:31] <chris32882> Taladan: everything is shared yes,  how do you smbmount the folders?
[03:32] <TeslaTony> ScarEye: There's a package called "compizconfig-settings-manager." Install that through adept or apt, and it should show up. You'll also need compiz-kde (unless you're on KDE4 or gnome)
[03:32] <ScarEye> TeslaTony: I got that already installed
[03:32] <ScarEye> I got the advanced version installed
[03:32] <Taladan> chris32882: you may have to get something like pyneighborhood
[03:33] <Taladan> chris32882: don't remember if it comes native in samba
[03:33] <chris32882> alright
[03:33] <TeslaTony> ScarEye: Then go to Settings->Advanced Desktop Effects Settings, and check the box for the cube.
[03:34] <Taladan> haettulegur_: okay, type: sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 >> ~/fsinfo.txt
[03:35] <Taladan> haettulegur_: how comfortable are you with the vim text editor?
[03:36] <haettulegur_> Taladan: oh, goddamn, im an emacs guy. i hate vim :) (i always forget how to exit and such)
[03:36] <ScarEye> TeslaTony: Did that brotha
[03:36] <haettulegur_> Taladan: also, im still in the process of copying some stuff over (almost finished), so should i wait to type dump the output to the txt, or is it okay to do it now?
[03:37] <haettulegur_> Taladan: but i can handle vim for now :)
[03:37] <Taladan> That's okay, emacs should be on there, I think.  Open up fsinfo.txt in your fav editor and look for the range that superblock 21233684 falls inbetween
[03:37] <Taladan> haettulegur_: nah, dumpe2fs simply gathers info about your filesystem
[03:37] <ScarEye> How can I make sure I am opengl running?
[03:37] <ScarEye> I have *
[03:37] <ScarEye> opengl running
[03:38] <Taladan> haettulegur_: lemme know when you find that
[03:38] <TeslaTony> ScarEye: And you're still not getting a cube when you switch desktops?
[03:38] <Taladan> chris32882: if you're still here, the command may actually be mount.smb...I think smbmount may be deprecated
[03:39] <chris32882> alright let me try it
[03:39] <ScarEye> nope..  I hold down the mouse and alt key. I don't see a "cube"  just a flat destop that has 2 siddes
[03:40] <TeslaTony> ScarEye: Ack. I forgot. KDE has some issues with compiz. Go into the settings for the cube and set the desktop size to 4, then go to the pager and set the size to 1
[03:41] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ok, found it
[03:42] <poseidon> Is there a way to sync my thunderbird on windows and linux so they have the same contacts, acounts, folders, etc?
[03:42] <Taladan> chris32882: but you can try something like mount -t smbfs \\server\share username=<UN> password=<PW> workgroup=<WG> /mnt
[03:42] <Taladan> haettulegur_: okay, what does it say there for 'backup superblock'
[03:42] <ScarEye> TeslaTony: I click on the "Desktop Cube" button.  And I have 4 tabs.  General, Appearance, Behaviour, Transparent Cude
[03:43] <ScarEye> Which tab has that option ?
[03:43] <chris32882> alright
[03:43] <william__> now i installed ubuntu and then in cli did a sudo apt-get instal kubuntu-desktop will i have k3.5 or kde4
[03:43] <Taladan> william__: 3
[03:44] <haettulegur_> Taladan: hmm...it doesn't have a 'backup superblock' thing under that group
[03:44] <Taladan> haettulegur_: what's the next backup superblock?
[03:44] <TeslaTony> ScarEye: I believe it's under appearance...unfortunately I don't currently have access to that window
[03:46] <haettulegur> Taladan: err...somehow being disconnected even though im wired...last thing i said was that it doesn't have a backup superblock under that group
[03:46] <Taladan> haettulegur_: what's the next backup superblock?
[03:46] <ScarEye> TeslaTony: Yea I don't see that option in there.  You know what I am going to install this version of KUbuntu  on a real desktop computer and see what happens.  Maybe this laptop is being funky. Thank you for you time and help. I really appreciate it.
[03:47] <haettulegur> Taladan: 23887872
[03:47] <Taladan> haettulegur: okay, go to the cli again.  type sudo e2fsck -b 23887872 /dev/sda1  but make sure your file copy is finished.
[03:48] <Taladan> s/finished/finished first/
[03:48] <TeslaTony> ScarEye: Sorry I couldn't be more help. The guys over at #compiz-fusion are probably going to be more help
[03:50] <ScarEye> TeslaTony: Okay I will check out compiz-fusion.  Still thanks for your time.  =)
[03:52] <leucas> hi there
[03:53]  * Taladan yawns
[03:53] <Leucas> have anybody upgraded kubuntu from ubuntu?
[03:53] <Leucas> on hardy
[03:53] <TeslaTony> Leucas: I have, with KDE4, though
[03:54] <Leucas> well but I dont want to install kde4... is it possible to do it with kde 3
[03:54] <Leucas> ?
[03:55] <Leucas> Im asking it because I've already done it on gutsy...
[03:55] <Leucas> but in this newer release I don't know if it is the same
[03:55] <TeslaTony> Leucas: Absolutely. Just type in the command line "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" That gives you kde3 and a bunch of other packages
[03:56] <Leucas> very good
[03:56] <TeslaTony> Leucas: If you wanted KDE4, it'd be kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[03:56] <Leucas> I was pretty happy with my kubuntu gutsy... but it has an issue with sound of my laptop
[03:57] <Leucas> and I've tried the liveCD of ubuntu and they've corrected
[03:58] <Taladan> haettulegur: you still with me bud?
[03:58] <Leucas> TeslaTony: thank you so much
[03:58] <haettulegur> Taladan: yeah, sorry. last folder :)
[03:59] <Taladan> S'alright.    Click on the workgroup
[04:02] <chris32882> yeah I have, just shows my pc
[04:03] <chris32882> not the other :(
[04:03] <chris32882> I am going to try the network set up wizard on the xp system
[04:03] <chris32882> see if that helps
[04:03] <pottydashitter> whenz interpid alpha come out?
[04:03] <coreymon77> oh come on
[04:03] <coreymon77> hardy just came out yesterday
[04:04] <coreymon77> are you seriously asking that potty?
[04:04] <Taladan> heh
[04:04] <pottydashitter> yeah
[04:04] <coreymon77> wow
[04:04] <coreymon77> talk about impatient
[04:04] <pottydashitter> jk
[04:05] <coreymon77> this should have been hungry hippo though
[04:05] <coreymon77> not hardy heron
[04:06] <coreymon77> and the one for L better have lolcat in it :P
[04:06] <NIghtFire> hi
[04:07] <haettulegur> how are the names decided anyways?
[04:07] <Taladan> lumpy lemur
[04:07] <coreymon77> lumpy lolcat!
[04:07] <Taladan> I'm waiting for wicked weasel
[04:07] <NIghtFire> is that 8.04 release worth the upgrade ?
[04:08] <coreymon77> since they didnt do hungry hippo this time, they have to do something lolcat for L
[04:08] <dwidmann> NIghtFire: yes.
[04:08] <NIghtFire> is the version thats out now still a beta version ?
[04:09] <coreymon77> nope
[04:09] <coreymon77> full stable
[04:09] <NIghtFire> k thanks
[04:10] <NIghtFire> one other question did they get the issue with broadcom wireless cards resolved ?
[04:10] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: what issue are we talking
[04:10] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: and which cards?
[04:11] <NIghtFire> I read something on the Ubuntu page under known issues that said that if your machine had a broadcom wireless card you would get a driver manager crash on install.
[04:11] <Taladan> um....haven't heard about that one...heard about the need for the ndis-wrappers for broadcom chipsets though
[04:12] <NIghtFire> They said that it could be resolved buy downloading a new driver but how are you supposed to do that if the wireless is down?
[04:12] <jih2d> hey, anyone ever have a problem with amarok not seeing all audio files?
[04:14] <NIghtFire> I ask because I have a hp lappy that has an onboard broadcom chip set and I have had a $%#@%#$ of a time getting it to work with each upgrade
[04:14] <jih2d> i need my tunes
[04:14] <Kiry> jih2d, YES
[04:14] <Kiry> I have NO sound after the update
[04:14] <Kiry> VERY annoyed
[04:14] <jih2d> using alsa?
[04:15] <Kiry> <-- thinkpad Z60A
[04:15] <Kiry> alsa?
[04:15] <Kiry> I know I launched amarok and heard NOTHING
[04:15] <jih2d> alsamixer might have stuff muted
[04:15] <Kiry> and my DVDs don't have sound either
[04:15] <shree_> Taladan:see you later. i am going to try out gnome
[04:15] <Kiry> <-- VERY VERY new to the whole 'nix world
[04:15] <Kiry> where would I find that out?
[04:15] <Taladan> shree_: have fun with that ;)
[04:16] <NIghtFire> speaking of DVDs I have yet to find a way to play dvd movies on ubuntu.
[04:16] <jih2d> try typing alsamixer in terminal and make sure what you need is is green
[04:16] <Kiry> I use Kaffeine to play them
[04:17] <jih2d> meaning in use or not muted
[04:17] <NIghtFire> where to find kaffeine ?
[04:18] <chris32882> K Menue > Multimedia
[04:19] <chris32882> if you have it installed
[04:19] <NIghtFire> k thanks
[04:19] <chris32882> woo hoo I helped someone and I'm a noob!
[04:21] <haettulegur> you can also try vlc: sudo apt-get install vlc (kaffeine never seems to work well for me)
[04:21] <chris32882> vlc is pretty cool basicly works with anything
[04:21] <haettulegur> Taladan: done copying at last :)
[04:21] <watthasongkhro_w> is there any way to check my basic pc spec in kubuntu?
[04:21] <Taladan> haettulegur: still got that command I told you earlier?
[04:23] <Taladan> sudo e2fsck -b 23887872 /dev/sda1
[04:23] <Taladan> just in case
[04:23] <pottytheshitter> why use ext3?
[04:24] <poseidon> How do I edit my kmenu?
[04:24] <poseidon> nm
[04:25] <haettulegur> Taladan: yep, running it now
[04:25] <juan> hello, I have kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 3 ... how can I install a kde 4 as well on this installation?
[04:25] <Taladan> haettulegur: good deal.  Lemme know what it comes out with
[04:30] <haettulegur> Taladan: ok, its giving me the same error as before. error reading block 21233684
[04:31] <Taladan> haettulegur: crud.
[04:32] <Taladan> lemme think for a minute
[04:32] <haettulegur> haha, a bit anticlimactic? :)
[04:35] <Taladan> a touch
[04:35] <hdd> !akpm
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about akpm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <hdd> !andrewmorton
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about andrewmorton - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <Taladan> haettulegur: can you c/p the actual entire error for me
[04:40] <haettulegur> Taladan: yep, just a sec
[04:40] <NIghtFire> Have vlc loaded want to watch Star Wars attack of the Clones having troubles making the thing play.  I get the fed warning screen up and the rating screen and then it stops
[04:40] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: do you have any other way of acessing the internet
[04:40] <NIghtFire> yes
[04:40] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: ethernet perhaps
[04:40] <coreymon77> because i could help you get it to work
[04:40] <NIghtFire> Im on broadband behind a router and firewall
[04:41] <coreymon77> hdd: btw, andrew morton is the name of my english teacher :p
[04:41] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: when wifi isnt working, do you have any way of accessing the internet?
[04:42] <NIghtFire> yes on another machine
[04:42] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: i mean on that machine
[04:42] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: aka, do you have an ethernet cable that you could use to plug directly into the router
[04:42] <NIghtFire> yes
[04:42] <NIghtFire> I could do that I guess.
[04:42] <coreymon77> well, then, use the ethernet cable to connect that box to the internet
[04:43] <coreymon77> and then i could help you get it working
[04:44] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: you see, there is a solution for everything
[04:45] <NIghtFire> most of the time it's just a matter of finding the people who have "done it" before and that is why I come to rooms like this one.
[04:46] <coreymon77> i havent done it before, ive used either ndiswrapper, ralink cards, or my latest and best, the airlink101 awlh4030 atheros chip card
[04:46] <coreymon77> but, i know how to get a bcm43xx card working
[04:47] <coreymon77> im assuming you have a bcm43xx card, right?
[04:47]  * Taladan is fading
[04:48] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: am i right?
[04:50] <NIghtFire> yes that is chipset that is in my lappy I got it to work by fooling the os into thinking it was a wire connection.
[04:50] <NIghtFire> at least with gutsy
[04:50] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: no need
[04:51] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: bcn43xx cards are easy to get working, providing you have an alternate way to access the intarwebs
[04:51] <coreymon77> such as an ethernet cable
[04:52] <Taladan> haettulegur: at this point, lemme just suggest to proceed with the reinstall unless someone else knows more about repairing bad superblocks....I'm fading fast over here and need to sleep soon
[04:52] <NIghtFire> right now the lappy uses a vmware image of 7.10 and works well but I am nervous about going through the pain again.
[04:52] <haettulegur> Taladan: oh, yeah, reinstalling's no problem with me :)
[04:53] <haettulegur> Taladan: thank you again for everything!
[04:53]  * Taladan nods
[04:53] <Taladan> sorry I couldn't be more help recovering the fs
[04:53] <coreymon77> im usually good at it
[04:53] <coreymon77> but, your choice
[04:53] <Alucard_Hellsing> can any one help me..i cant get java runtime to work
[04:54] <haettulegur> try to get to level 36 while you sleep :)
[04:54] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: trust me, you dont know wifi woes until it takes you an entire week to get it to work
[04:55] <NIghtFire> I tried for several months to get this setup to work with Fiesty
[04:56] <coreymon77> wow, either you really dont know what you are doing
[04:56] <coreymon77> or you need a better card
[04:56] <coreymon77> or both :P
[04:57] <NIghtFire> I will admit that I don't know alot about linux but the "card" - "chipset" came eom on my hp prosario lappy
[04:57] <jerbear_> anyone using kde4 in hardy?
[04:57]  * Taladan idles down
[04:57] <pottytheshitter> kde is fragmented right now
[04:58] <jerbear_> yeh, i noticed
[04:58] <jerbear_> remixed edition?
[05:01] <pottytheshitter> i moved to gnome after 8.04
[05:02] <jerbear_> i've never used kde4... is it going down in flames?
[05:03]  * NightBird has been using kde4 since it came out and hasn't had problems
[05:03] <coreymon77> jerbear_: no it isnt
[05:03] <coreymon77> some usershave jsut had minor issues with it
[05:03] <coreymon77> many of us are just wating for 4.1
[05:04] <jerbear_> i guess it is still fairly new
[05:04] <coreymon77> exactly
[05:04]  * KhaoticMind is awaiting for 4.1 :)
[05:04] <NightBird> heh
[05:04] <jerbear_> seems very flashy... not sure i dig that
[05:04] <coreymon77> and as with anything linux related, new=still a few bugs to iron out
[05:04] <sepeck> seems a familer refrain
[05:04] <KhaoticMind> those damn flies... :/
[05:04] <coreymon77> pottytheshitter: so, why are you in this channel exactly, shouldnt you be in #ubuntu?
[05:05] <chris32882> basicly the same isn't it?
[05:05] <pottytheshitter> i use gnome desktop not gnome apps
[05:05] <sepeck> if you don;t like a technology it's harder to knock it in a channel that supports it maybe
[05:06] <chris32882> besides no one isn't in #ubuntu :)
[05:07] <sepeck> the video almost works for me but everything is shiftwed over tot he right off monitor.
[05:07] <pottytheshitter>  Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned)
[05:07] <sepeck> maybe a name problem?
[05:08] <chris32882> I joined just fine, there just wasn't anyone in there cept me :(
[05:08] <shree_> People, I was using Kubuntu-deksopt and now I ahve switched over to Ubuntu-dekstop. How dO i clean the Kubuntu-desktop installation
[05:08] <sepeck> I see a ton of people
[05:08] <chris32882> weird
[05:09] <chris32882> dunno its
[05:09] <chris32882> "#ubuntu"?
[05:09] <sepeck> netsplit perhaps or spelling
[05:09] <sepeck> #ubuntu
[05:09] <shree_> chris32882: you want me to try in ubuntu?
[05:09] <phil_> is there an easy way to get permission to  paste something in dolphin?
[05:09] <chris32882> weird I am in now
[05:09] <chris32882> lol
[05:10] <shree_> chris32882: This is #kubuntu
[05:10]  * sepeck attempts to get monitor settings right one more time
[05:10] <MrGnu> Hi all, I need some help.  How do I get KUBUNTU to work, I had tried before in Gutsy but the KDE base never was recognized. I left me with the splash screen, but no working KUBUNTU.  Now I am in hardy, I still have the splash screen, and I want to try again, but this time I want to be sure it works. Can someone tell me the best way to get KUBUNTU session added to this current Hardy Gnome installation?
[05:11] <chris32882> yes I know this, shree_, I was trying to join #ubuntu, but when i did was a empty channel
[05:11] <KhaoticMind> MrGnu: i do believe the best way to do this is installing the kubuntu-desktop package... apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:12] <erlanfernando> ola
[05:13] <shree_> People, please help me uninstall Kubuntu-desktop i nits entirety
[05:13] <shree_> Taladan: can you help me uninstall Kubuntu desktop that I have got Ubuntu desktop installed
[05:13] <MrGnu> when I did that in Gutsy, it left me with a working splash screen, but the KDE was not recognized.  If I do this, in Hardy, could I run into the same problem?
[05:14] <italy> i booted up remix but for some reason it goes to some crazy resolution and xorg.conf doesn't have anything to change it
[05:14] <phil_> when I did that Mr Gnu I got a kubuntu login that logged into ubuntu, untill I selected kubuntu in the drop down list at the login screen
[05:15] <KhaoticMind> MrGnu:  which splash screen are we talking about? Boot splash or the splash after login?
[05:16] <MrGnu> boot splash
[05:16] <italy> any suggestions?
[05:16] <italy> I can't change the resolution : <
[05:16] <phil_> is there a way to copy files in dolphin where it can let my use the root password to do it?
[05:17] <phil_> sorry I found it
[05:18] <KhaoticMind> thats weird MrGnu, for what i know the boot process should be the same for both gnome and kde...
[05:19] <MrGnu> Well this was in Gutsy, I have not tried to install KUBUNTU again
[05:19] <MrGnu> but I guess the best way to do it is by sudo apt get-install kubuntu-desktop
[05:19] <KhaoticMind> if you just want kubuntu (and dump gnome) you can also try to install the kubuntu CD instead of ubuntu...
[05:20] <MrGnu> Ive been podering that, and I might go kubuntu 64 bit, if they have a version like that?
[05:20] <KhaoticMind> aye they have :)
[05:21] <KhaoticMind> thou, you might find some problems with the 64bit version (both ubuntu and kubuntu)
[05:21] <KhaoticMind> like drivers and even java...
[05:24] <Makuseru> when ever i middle click on a link in firefox it opens up that link a new tab, i like that. but, if i miss the link and click on just the background not the link it pastes what ever link i have copied into the bar and takes me there, how can i stop this from happening
[05:33] <Frederick> folks can I play zsnes online?
[05:34] <harolddong> does konqueror kde4 still seem pretty unfinished for everybody?  Is it one of the apps that probably won't be totally ready until 4.1?
[05:34] <harolddong> like, I still can't import bookmarks at all and flash seems to make it freak out
[05:35] <Frederick> damm I lost con can you please na any good emulator again?
[05:35] <MrGnu> cool Khaotic, I ll  give it a shot, and set up a dual boot or something
[05:39] <KhaoticMind> MrGnu: head to www.kubuntu.org to plenty of info about kubuntu, and some download links as well ;)
[05:42] <gothicd3vil> hi
[05:43] <gothicd3vil> can somebody tell me the name of a program like Office in windows for Linux Kubuntu?
[05:44] <NightBird> gothicd3vil: open office or koffice
[05:44] <gothicd3vil> is the same format?
[05:44] <NightBird> Open Office is installed by default on kubuntu
[05:44] <NightBird> mostly
[05:45] <NightBird> it supports all of the office file formats
[05:45] <gothicd3vil> thanks is that i have classes by internet and i have to send homeworks
[05:45] <NightBird> well, I'm not sure about the latest office formats, but I know it does the ones previous
[05:45] <NightBird> ah
[05:45] <NightBird> I'm sure it will do fine for you then
[05:46] <neon> how cab i get kbfx to work, i apply the style but nothing happens?
[05:46] <gothicd3vil> thanks
[05:46] <gothicd3vil> have a good night
[05:59] <noam_> hey, i'm going to reinstall the new version rather than upgrade. should i also delete ~/.* to "start afresh"?
[06:01] <cahuez> buenas a<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:02] <yoyoma> hello, how can i make the fonts in KDE4 big enough to read?
[06:06] <macampos> oii
[06:06] <macampos> alguem ai pode me ajudar
[06:06] <macampos> ????
[06:07] <macampos> hi
[06:07] <macampos> I nead help with my wireless card
[06:08] <cahuez> hi macampos..
[06:08] <macampos> hi
[06:08] <cahuez> wireless card..
[06:09] <macampos> Cahuez  my wireless card no identifie  networs ssid
[06:09] <macampos> is a intel 3945ABG
[06:10] <cahuez> ok, so let us know what is the output of> ifconfig ..
[06:10] <Dragonath> is it normal considering heron release that adept takes a load of time to download update headers?
[06:10] <macampos> ifconfig result in 4 networks
[06:10] <macampos> eth0 (cable )
[06:10] <cahuez> yeap..
[06:10] <macampos> lo (loapback )
[06:11] <macampos> and wlan
[06:11] <cahuez> eth1 probably will be the wireless one..
[06:11] <cahuez> yeap..
[06:11] <macampos> no my wireless
[06:11] <Dragonath> I'd bet on wlan
[06:11] <macampos> is a wlan0
[06:11] <macampos> but
[06:12] <cahuez> is there a ip address on it..!?
[06:12] <macampos> show to wmaster0
[06:12] <macampos> don't hava  ip
[06:12] <macampos> ny router is a linksys
[06:12] <macampos> wep 2
[06:13] <macampos>  and dhcp server
[06:13] <macampos> but no show my network in my laptop
[06:14] <Dragonath> what command do you use to scan?
[06:15] <Dragonath> I have an old laptop that doesn't show any networks unless you do a sudo iwlist scan
[06:15] <cahuez> humm..
[06:16] <cahuez> try a ping to <the eth1 ip address> ..
[06:16] <Dragonath> however there's only 1 network to which it has actually managed to connect, so something else might be broken too
[06:16] <macampos> dont have eth1
[06:16] <macampos> i have eth0
[06:17] <macampos> and
[06:17] <macampos> wlan0
[06:17] <cahuez> eth0 is working..
[06:17] <macampos> yes
[06:17] <cahuez> ok, ping to wlan0 ip address..
[06:17] <macampos> no ping
[06:17] <cahuez> checking...
[06:17] <harris> sinong pilipino d2
[06:17] <macampos> test failure
[06:18] <cahuez> ok...
[06:18] <cahuez> and you are near a wlan lan..?
[06:19] <macampos> yes
[06:19] <macampos> wlan0
[06:19] <Dragonath> no, that's an interface
[06:19] <Dragonath> what you need is a network to connect to
[06:20] <macampos> ok
[06:20] <macampos> i have a network
[06:20] <Dragonath> try "iwlist scan"
[06:21] <macampos> iwlist wlan0 scan
[06:21] <macampos> no returne results
[06:21] <Dragonath> then try "sudo iwlist scan"
[06:21] <macampos> in kubuntu 7.10
[06:22] <macampos> my network is ok
[06:22] <macampos> i install a 8.04 version
[06:22] <macampos> no more wireless
[06:22] <Dragonath> ok
[06:23] <macampos> you know any problem with 8.04 version
[06:23] <macampos> ??
[06:23] <Dragonath> I don't really know what could be causing it
[06:23] <Dragonath> because I'm still running 7.10
[06:23] <macampos> ok
[06:23] <Dragonath> what you probably want to do, is downgrade to a previous version of ifconfig or iwlist
[06:24] <macampos> downgrade
[06:24] <macampos> humm
[06:25] <macampos> iwlist probe
[06:25] <macampos> ok
[06:25] <macampos> tks
[06:25] <Dragonath> you might also want to try to search for known problems with your network card
[06:25] <Dragonath> on google or something
[06:25] <macampos> i search
[06:25] <macampos> but 8.04 is a new version
[06:25] <Dragonath> I think if you google for "kubuntu 8.04 <card name>"
[06:25] <Dragonath> indeed
[06:26] <macampos> i dont have more informations about is
[06:26] <macampos> ok
[06:26] <macampos> tks
[06:26] <Dragonath> no worries
[06:26] <Dragonath> hope you get the problem sorted
[06:36] <harris> HELP ME! hey hey... how can I open my mozilla firefox
[06:37] <harris>  HELP ME! hey hey... how can I open my mozilla firefox
[06:37] <harris> please
[06:37] <cahuez> firefox is available through your k/internet menu option already..?
[06:39] <Willizar> dudes
[06:39] <harris> i dont get it, im sorry... I'm newbie here..... I'm usingkubuntu 7.04
[06:39] <thedonvaughn> harris: you install it?  If so it's in KDE start -> Internet -> Firefox
[06:39] <Willizar> how do i use my mic on kopete
[06:39] <thedonvaughn> harris: sudo apt-get install firefo
[06:39] <thedonvaughn> harris: sudo apt-get install firefox   - rather
[06:39] <harris> where ? will i type it
[06:40] <harris> ?
[06:40] <thedonvaughn> harris: System -> Konsole
[06:40] <harris> okay
[06:40] <harris> im in the console
[06:41] <cahuez> then check with > man firefox first..
[06:41] <hydrogen> err
[06:41] <hydrogen> wut?
[06:42] <hydrogen> thats like, the worst idea i've ever heard
[06:42] <harris> whhhaaaa still dont get it
[06:42] <hydrogen> and I've been in support channels for a long time
[06:42] <harris> i did install the firefox
[06:42] <hydrogen> alt+f2 > type in firefox
[06:42] <harris> laoding
[06:43] <harris> error
[06:44] <harris> NOSE BLEED
[06:44] <harris> An error occurred while loading http://firefox.meridiantelekoms.com/:
[06:45] <cahuez> then try> firefox & in console ..
[06:46] <harris> harris@harris-desktop:~$ firefox
[06:46] <harris> The program 'firefox' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[06:46] <harris> sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:46] <harris> bash: firefox: command not found
[06:46] <harris> harris@harris-desktop:~$ apt-get install firefox
[06:46] <harris> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:46] <harris> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[06:46] <harris> harris@harris-desktop:~$
[06:46] <milosz_> hydrogen: try first pkill -9 firefox
[06:47] <hydrogen> milosz_: uhh wut?
[06:47] <harris> wahhhhh help2x
[06:47] <harris> newbie me
[06:47] <hydrogen> !patience | harris
[06:47] <ubotu> harris: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:47] <milosz_> hydrogen: I think that firefox is running\
[06:47] <hydrogen> read the gigantic amount of output harris pasted
[06:47] <hydrogen> not me
[06:48] <harris> sorry
[06:48] <harris> heheheeee
[06:48] <harris> this is FUN
[06:48] <harris> okay i'll figure it out
[06:49] <milosz_> hydrogen: ups, I just woke up :)
[06:49] <harris> patience is the essence
[06:51] <harris> so how mr HYDROGEN..... how can i run application?
[06:51] <harris> i can't run an executable file
[06:53] <milosz_> harris: did you tried sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:53] <ISS_Student> I didn't thnk linx used exe files
[06:54] <maduser> it doesn't
[06:54] <harris> yes yes milosz i did in konsole
[06:54] <maduser> ?
[06:55] <maduser> did you try though the apt manager?
[06:55] <harris> okay
[06:55] <harris> there is a password
[06:55] <maduser> and?
[06:55] <ISS_Student> I just went to add/remove programs and did it that way
[06:55] <harris> I'll put my password
[06:55] <maduser> is this your fist time using linux?
[06:56] <ISS_Student> Me or harris?
[06:56] <harris> yahhhhhhhhh
[06:56] <harris> first time
[06:56] <maduser> have you ever used ubuntu
[06:56] <maduser> ?
[06:56] <harris> not yet
[06:56] <maduser> ok ummm
[06:56] <Leeuw> I ticked to ' off'  some setting in KDE that said something like 'scan KDE at boot'  something like that, it had a warning that after changing stuff it could break the system; I forogot about it, did a lot of tweaking, and then the troubles began; missing start-menu (xcuse win-terminology), and trouble with IRC on Kopete, among other stufff; sys seeems right now again, but kopete keeps crashing X on initiating an  IRC-channel;...   I can' t find that se
[06:57] <ISS_Student> I've used kubuntu for probably around a year or so
[06:57] <maduser> me too but i have been using linux for about 8
[06:57] <harris> Building dependency tree
[06:57] <harris> Reading state information... Done
[06:57] <harris> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:57] <harris> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:57] <harris> is only available from another source
[06:57] <harris> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[06:57] <harris> harris@harris-desktop:~$
[06:57] <maduser> ...................................
[06:57] <maduser> oh yeah!................you have to get firefox 3 now
[06:58] <harris> i typed
[06:58] <harris> Building dependency tree
[06:58] <Dr_willis> executable is different from '.exe'
[06:58] <Dr_willis> you set the executable bit on a file under linux.  and its an executable file
[06:58] <harris> Reading state information... Done
[06:58] <harris> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:58] <harris> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:58] <harris> is only available from another source
[06:58] <harris> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[06:58] <harris> harris@harris-desktop:~$
[06:58] <harris> sorry
[06:58] <harris> for the flood
[06:58] <ISS_Student> I've used fedora for a few years mainly at school but prefer kubuntu on my laptop
[06:58] <maduser> try sudo apt-get firefox 3
[06:58] <hydrogen> no..
[06:58] <hydrogen> spaces do not go in package names
[06:58] <hydrogen> never have, never will
[06:58] <harris> invalid operation maduser
[06:58] <miloszg> hydrogen: firefox-3
[06:58] <hydrogen> you need to install mozilla-firefox
[06:58] <maduser> try sudo apt-get firefox3
[06:58] <hydrogen> no.
[06:58] <hydrogen> no no no
[06:58] <hydrogen> just no
[06:59] <hydrogen> bad guesses are bad
[06:59] <harris> ehehehhehehehe
[06:59] <harris> fun fun
[06:59] <maduser> ok this is stupid just use the apt manager
[06:59] <hydrogen> or, install mozilla-firefox
[06:59] <maduser> that too
[06:59] <harris> i already install it
[06:59] <maduser> ok do you know how to use the apt manager?
[07:00] <harris> here is the folder = /home/harris/firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>/firefox
[07:00] <harris> no
[07:00] <maduser> this terminal thing is not working
[07:00] <maduser> are you useing kde3 or 4?
[07:00] <harris> actually im using 7.04 Kubuntu
[07:00] <harris> it is not upgraded
[07:00] <maduser> ok first upgrade
[07:00] <maduser> we can't help you
[07:01] <maduser> the package system for the older os's are useless
[07:01] <harris> ok thanks for help
[07:01] <hydrogen> err
[07:01] <hydrogen> no
[07:01] <hydrogen> not particularlly
[07:01] <harris> ok
[07:01] <maduser> the apt gets disabled for the older ones
[07:01] <hydrogen> 7.04 is still supported
[07:01] <harris> hydro
[07:01] <maduser> really?
[07:01] <maduser> ok
[07:01] <hydrogen> maduser: your talking out of your ass, stop it
[07:02] <harris> maduser... bad cheetah
[07:02] <maduser> k fine
[07:02] <harris> hahahahahahahhaha :))
[07:02] <maduser> I'm tryng to help
[07:02] <maduser> a guy who has no clue what he is doing
[07:02] <hydrogen> It's not a good idea to try and help someone if you are not familiar with the material you are trying to help them with
[07:02] <maduser> I am
[07:02] <maduser> with the apt
[07:03] <maduser> manager
[07:03] <hydrogen> I have no intentions of teaching anyone how to perform brain surgery
[07:03] <harris> heeheeeeehe
[07:03] <maduser> k type adept_manager in the terminal
[07:03] <maduser> this will bring up the manager
[07:04] <harris> ok
[07:04] <harris> theres the manager
[07:04] <maduser> now type firefox in the search
[07:04] <stdin> adept needs to be started as root, with kdesu/kdesudo
[07:04] <zeth_> Hola
[07:04] <harris> ok
[07:05] <zeth_> spanish
[07:05] <hydrogen> plus, he _already_ installed mozilla-firefox
[07:05] <zeth_> ?
[07:05] <stdin> !es
[07:05] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[07:05] <hydrogen> so I'm not sure why we are going down this road
[07:05] <ISS_Student> maduser he needs to do that as  sudo
[07:05] <zeth_> thanks!!!
[07:06] <maduser> I take typing firefox in the terminal brings up nothing?
[07:06] <maduser> for him?
[07:06] <stdin> I would check to make sure the repositories are enabled in adept
[07:06] <hydrogen> well, we don't know whats happened since I told him to install mozilla-firefox
[07:07] <hydrogen> because the next thing that happened was you told him he had to update to hardy
[07:07] <stdin> firefox is in main, so it would be enabled unless there was no net-connection at install
[07:07] <ISS_Student> ok here is my question what happened to nmap-fe?
[07:07] <stdin> ISS_Student: I don't know, what happened to it?
[07:08] <ISS_Student> stdin there is zenmap but I can't find it on the menu
[07:09] <stdin> ISS_Student: try running "kbuildsycoca" to update the menu
[07:10] <stdin> though knmap is a KDE gui for nmap iirc
[07:16] <maduser> so is that firefox probelm fixed
[07:16]  * Dr_willis looks under the couch
[07:17] <Dr_willis> knmap - nmap graphical interface for KDE
[07:18] <harris> okay for example i have ben.exe          = how can i run it?
[07:18] <Dr_willis> you proberly want to run zenmap with 'kdesu zenmap' or kdesudo zenmap
[07:18] <stdin> !wine | harris
[07:18] <ubotu> harris: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[07:18] <maduser> but no all programs work with wine
[07:18] <maduser> but not all programs work with wine
[07:19] <maduser> some do and some don't
[07:21] <harris> so do i need wine in running firefox.exe
[07:21] <harris> hehehhehe
[07:21] <stdin> did you do what was asked?
[07:21] <stdin> did you check your sources?
[07:22] <harris> wow HOW?
[07:22] <stdin> open adept goto Adept -> Manage Repositories
[07:23] <stdin> make sure they are checked
[07:23] <stdin> then click "fetch updates"
[07:24] <dinart> how do I log as the root?
[07:24] <stdin> !root | dinart
[07:24] <ubotu> dinart: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:25] <The_ManU_212> hi
[07:25] <harris> wheezzzz
[07:25] <dinart> stdin, yeah, but i want to use the graphic interface as the root
[07:26] <dinart> not the console
[07:26] <stdin> that's not supported
[07:26] <stdin> or recommended
[07:26] <stdin> or needed
[07:26] <stdin> settings for that would be in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[07:27] <draik> stdin: general rule of thumb, "If you're not allowed, there's most likely a very good reason"
[07:27] <stdin> draik: tell that to dinart ;)
[07:27] <dinart> i just wanted to edit the file menu.lst at boot/grub
[07:27] <draik> stdin: I know, but I wanted your approval for the verbiage
[07:27] <dinart> to change the boot order
[07:28] <stdin> dinart: do use 'kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[07:28] <draik> dinart: Use CLI or the command line.
[07:28] <stdin> "CLI or the command line" ?
[07:28] <draik> Whoops
[07:28] <stdin> ;)
[07:28] <draik> CLI or the Run command
[07:29] <dinart> i'm not used with the linux console syntax
[07:29] <stdin> you can also use the "Edit file as root" open from konqueror
[07:29] <stdin> *option
[07:30] <draik> dinart: I've preferred CLI editing lately. Go figure. I've been so used to KATE for a while and now I'm getting the urge to use CLI.
[07:30] <greeg> the latest kubuntu sucks.  im rolling back to a previous version
[07:30] <greeg> nothing werks.
[07:31] <stdin> dinart: right click the file in konqueror -> Actions -> Edit as Root
[07:31] <dinart> konqueror?
[07:31] <stdin> the file manager
[07:32] <dinart> i'm using Nautilus 2.22.2 here
[07:32]  * Dr_willis notices this is the Kubuntu/KDE room...
[07:32] <stdin> then you should ask in #ubuntu
[07:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:32] <stdin> I'm sure it's similar in nautilus, but I don't know the procedure
[07:33] <dinart> just found it
[07:33] <dinart> at the synpatic
[07:33] <dinart> itś not instaled
[07:34] <greeg> can nautilus play youtube unchoppy ?
[07:34]  * greeg apt-gets
[07:34] <stdin> ask in #ubuntu
[07:34] <bwp> nautilus isn't a web browser, last i checked
[07:34] <greeg> oh
[07:34] <greeg> fuck
[07:34] <greeg> firefox sucks
[07:35] <stdin> !language | greeg
[07:35] <ubotu> greeg: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:35] <greeg> dolphin sucks
[07:35] <greeg> konquerer is good at crashing.
[07:35] <Dr_willis> Hmm...  all these oponions from someone that dident realize nautilus wasent a web browser....
[07:35] <stdin> thanks for your opinion, but this isn't a "what's you opinion on software" channel
[07:35] <harris> yES
[07:35] <harris> konquerorrrr error
[07:35] <greeg> no oppinion.  the shit crashes.
[07:35] <greeg> thats a fact.
[07:37] <Dr_willis> Anyone else noticed that the more  Opinion someone has -  they often have less actual 'knowledge' ?
[07:37] <harris> CAN i use visual studio here? or program visual basic.net?
[07:37] <bwp> So, ever since I upgraded to 8.04, Kaffeine is unable to play videos off a samba share
[07:37] <bwp> says:  16:37:32: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL
[07:37] <harris> im installing NET beans right now hope its okay
[07:38] <bwp> was working before the upgrade
[07:38] <osiris> has anyone else had problems with flash not having sound in hardy ?
[07:38] <bwp> any ideas anyone?
[07:38] <bef> hi. i just installed kub 8.04 from ub 7.10, fresh install... my pci wireless graphics was autofound and works, except
[07:38] <bef> my speeds are absolutely shit
[07:38] <Dr_willis> bwp, How are you accessing the share?  you might want to mount the share to a directory, then anything should be able to play them
[07:38] <bef> and my connection is really unstable
[07:38] <stdin> bef: watch the language in here please
[07:38] <bef> it was never like this with ubuntu, im wondering why this is happening?
[07:39] <bwp> Dr_willis: yeah, it works if I do that (of course). I was just wondering if there's a reason why it stopped working
[07:39] <bwp> i'm opening the file direction from a smb:// url in Dolphin
[07:39] <bwp> directly *
[07:40] <stdin> bef: the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the GUI and set of default applications, the core is the same so the speed can't be anything to do with KDE but the core
[07:40] <bef> do you have any advice on how i can fix it?
[07:40] <The_ManU_212> i installed yesterday nvidia-glx-new - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver and use a6600gt but i have no 3d acceleration:/
[07:40] <stdin> bef: wifi isn't really my area, but what network card/driver are you using?
[07:41] <bef> im using a belkin wireless (Ralink)
[07:41] <Dr_willis> bwp,  ive gotten where i use gmplayer as my main player. and fusesmb to access samba shares. ;) i rarely play things over the smb:// stuff
[07:42] <bef> and im using the default native linux driver
[07:42] <bef> i'm not using ndiswrapper (and havent had to with this card for over a year)
[07:42] <draik> bef: You have a PCI Wireless video card???
[07:42] <bef> what?
[07:42] <stdin> draik: huh?
[07:42] <bef> did i ever say video card?
[07:43] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  When I upgraded to Heady Hebron my system stopped booting properly.  It will load the necessary stuff, but it won't go into KDE.
[07:43] <bef> oh maybe i did
[07:43] <bef> (if so i'm just retarded)
[07:43] <bef> but not what i meant to say :P
[07:43] <draik> stdin: bef: ..." my pci wireless graphics was autofound and works, except"
[07:43] <bef> lol
[07:43] <bef> yeah, my bad
[07:43] <stdin> yeah, but you need to discard words that don't fit
[07:43] <draik> I wasn't sure which one
[07:43] <stdin> I guess I do it unconsciously now :p
[07:43] <Ertain> I tried looking into the logs but they have stopped right before I upgraded my system.
[07:44] <Ertain> Could the logs be in a different place?
[07:44] <draik> PCI wireless or PCI VC
[07:44] <bef> pci wireless
[07:44] <bwp> Ertain: it isn't trying to load KDE4 is it? The compositing in KDE4 caused some weird problems for me for a while
[07:44] <hydrogen> wireless video... mmm :)
[07:44] <bef> (i did say belkin wireless ralink) which would be fairly obvious :P
[07:45] <chrisrogers> hey dwidmann
[07:45] <Ertain> bwp: I don't know if it is trying to start KDE4.
[07:45] <Ertain> bwp: But I'll try uninstalling my KDE4 stuff.
[07:45] <bwp> Ertain: do you get to a login prompt? Can you choose the "session type" from the list?
[07:46] <bef> draik, can you help?
[07:46] <bef> wlan0
[07:46] <Ertain> bwp: I don't even get into the login prompt.
[07:46] <bwp> not KDE4's fault then :)
[07:47] <draik> bef: Sorry, I'm still in Gutsy
[07:47] <bef> for some reason its running at like 5Kbs, and i'm on a 1500kbs connection
[07:47] <bef> which is utterly rediculous
[07:47] <Ertain> Figures. :-/
[07:48] <Ertain> bwp: okay, could it be the login thingy?
[07:49] <bwp> does X start?
[07:50] <Ertain> bwp: I don't know.  I do have xinit installed, along with startx (and Kubuntu-desktop), but apparently it doesn't start.
[07:52] <Ertain> I do have all of the right Xserver and X11 stuff, afaik.
[07:52] <bwp> so what happens when you try to start KDE?
[07:53] <iqon> i can't get amarok to retrieve ipod play counts in 8.04
[07:54] <Ertain> Here's what happens: my regular bootsplash is loading, and then it tries to go start X and... It doesn't start.
[07:55] <ForgeAus> is anything linux an industry standard? I mean Windows doesn't recognise EXT3 partitions by default, wouldn't it make sense to make EXT3 an industry standard of some kind?
[07:56] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  MS  dosent want to.. so  they dont.,
[07:56] <ForgeAus> I mean windows' diskpart is ok for a basic ntfs partitioner but thats about all it can do
[07:56] <fdoving> ForgeAus: microsoft and windows does not want to cooperate with anything linux. that's the only reason it doesn't read it by default, it's not that it's hard to read it in any way.
[07:56] <Dr_willis> Why not ask why Windows dosent have NFS by default. :) or  other more common things also.
[07:56] <bwp> Ertain: looks like the upgrade to the new version of X broke your install somehow
[07:56] <bef> somebody please help me fix my connection please
[07:56] <bwp> X is pretty nasty when it doesn't work
[07:57] <ForgeAus> NFS is easy enough with SFU/SUA if you have a windows with those extras
[07:57] <Ertain> In my /var/log/dmesg file it gets up to ip_tables and then it stops.  Btw, I'm on a wireless connection.
[07:57] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  ext2 support in windows works 'ok' :) with a few tools as well.. but not 100%
[07:58] <ForgeAus> yeah I have an ext2ifs driver
[07:58] <bwp> ext2ifs is pretty flaky in my experience
[07:58] <ForgeAus> but thats not what I meant... it doesn't give diskpart or ntldr the ability to recognise ext2/3 partitions does it?
[07:58] <Ertain> bwp: Just in case what would you suggest I do to fix "X"?
[07:58] <ForgeAus> really I've had no problem with it at all bwp...
[07:59] <ForgeAus> (sofar anyhow)
[07:59] <ForgeAus> maybe its one of them "works for me" thingies
[07:59] <bwp> Ertain: if you know your way around the commandline, make a backup of your existing xorg.conf file and try running the autoprobe thingy
[07:59] <Ertain> Okay.
[07:59] <bwp> Xorg -configure
[07:59] <bwp> see what it comes up with
[08:00] <fdoving> !xconf
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xconf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <fdoving> !xconfig
[08:00] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[08:00] <bwp> oooh, fanciness
[08:00] <The_ManU_212> i installed yesterday nvidia-glx-new - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver and use a6600gt but i have no 3d acceleration:/ who can help?
[08:00] <dwidmann> hi chris ... sorry but I probaly won't be around for another .... 12 hour or so, ltime for me to leave for work soon
[08:01] <spigiboy> hello valaki beszel magyarul?
[08:02] <Lynoure> spigiboy: there could be #kubuntu-hu
[08:02] <Lynoure> !hu
[08:02] <ubotu> Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál
[08:02] <spigiboy> thx :D
[08:06] <rayk_sland>  glx problem with hardy heron and intel chipset   (/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_Dispatch)
[08:07] <SilentDis> hello
[08:08] <SilentDis> i just replaced a CD burner with a CD/DVD+-RW burner.  Bios sees it fine (even allows to boot off a CD), but as soon as I'm up and running in 8.04, it fails to work.  I assume there's gonna be an error somewhere in a log, where would i start looking?
[08:08] <rayk_sland> SilentDis: dmesg might tell you something
[08:09] <SilentDis> rayk_sland: ugh, yep.  let me pastebin this one, getting it over and over apparently...
[08:09] <SilentDis> rayk_sland: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8319/
[08:10] <SilentDis> rayk_sland: ever seen anything like that?
[08:13] <SilentDis> aargh, looks like known issue and nothing to solve it so far https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/160656
[08:13] <rayk_sland> SilentDis  googlesearch leads me to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/160656
[08:13] <SilentDis> lol
[08:14] <SilentDis> is there a way to kill all use of that device?
[08:16] <SilentDis> hm.  on the off chance i didn't set the jumper right, gonna shut down and check that just to be extra sure.  be back in a bit
[08:24] <bef> hi. i just installed kub 8.04 from ub 7.10, fresh install... my pci wireless was autofound and using native linux driver, i'm not using ndiswrapper (and havent had to with this card for over a year).. its a belkin (ralink) on wlan0, and it's running at about 5kb/s and falling out a lot.. I'm on a good connection and haven't had any problems with Ubuntu with this card, any advice here?
[08:26] <The_ManU_212> how to enable 3d acceleration?
[08:27] <INIT_6> can we ask ? about wine and the new kubuntu? or is there another channel for that?
[08:27] <INIT_6> The_ManU_212: do you have a nvidia card?
[08:28] <bef> hi. i just installed kub 8.04 from ub 7.10, fresh install... my pci wireless was autofound and using native linux driver, i'm not using ndiswrapper (and havent had to with this card for over a year).. its a belkin (ralink) on wlan0, and it's running at about 5kb/s and falling out a lot.. I'm on a good connection and haven't had any problems with Ubuntu with this card, any advice here?
[08:28] <The_ManU_212> INIT_6: yes 6600gt
[08:29] <INIT_6> do you have 7.10 or 8.04?
[08:29] <MrBogus> hello
[08:30] <MrBogus> i'm new here
[08:30] <INIT_6> The_ManU_212: so you running 7.10 or the new 8.04 so I can give you the right steps?
[08:30] <cr> hi roomies...the font configuration in my kcontrol disappeared...had been replaced by the 'welcome to kde control center'...anyone know how to fix this..thanks
[08:30] <INIT_6> Hello, MrBogus
[08:31] <MrBogus> just wanted to ask if were can I get an installer for kubuntu
[08:32] <Dr_willis> the instgall cd's instgall ubuntu/kubuntu normally.
[08:32] <Dr_willis> Unless you want to use the 'wubi' installer.
[08:32] <The_ManU_212> INIT_6: 8.04 kde 3, installed nvidia-glx-new, but didnt helped and xorg.conf has only generic entries and no "nvidia" mentioned somewhere
[08:32] <MrBogus> my problem is I have no cd for kubuntu
[08:32] <MrBogus> =)
[08:33] <Dr_willis> Hmmm go download one?
[08:33] <MrBogus> can i?
[08:33] <the-erm> Any upgrade issues?
[08:34] <the-erm> I guess I should ask has anyone had any issues upgrading?
[08:34] <INIT_6> I did but that was a user error
[08:34] <Dr_willis> MrBogus,  err.. of course... kubuntu is not some app you install under windows.. (normally) :)   You download the iso. burn it to cd..reboot, install from cd
[08:34] <JoshOvki> the-erm: i had a problem upgrading, but thats because my system froze
[08:35] <JoshOvki> Dr_willis: if he installed using wubi  then it could be simular to his point of view
[08:36] <the-erm> JoshOvki: don't scare me like that...
[08:36] <Dr_willis> JoshOvki,  i aint even TOUCHING or suggesting Wubi.. ever.. :)
[08:36] <JoshOvki> lol
[08:36] <the-erm> I'm adept_upgrade is running now.
[08:36] <MrBogus> could someone provide a download link for kubuntu?
[08:36] <MrBogus> thanks for the answers
[08:36] <MrBogus> :)
[08:36] <Dr_willis> MrBogus,  try kubuntu.org ? check the topic of the channel?
[08:37] <JoshOvki> the-erm: i think it was just my system, loads of people have upgraded with no issues
[08:37] <Dr_willis> There are torrents for the new release out now also. that may be the fastet way to get a .iso image.
[08:37] <Dr_willis> .04 Released! http://kubuntu.org/news/8.04-release
[08:37] <MrBogus> okay. i'll try to download.
[08:38] <INIT_6> *bumb* where is the best place to get help for wine and the new 8.04 here or a different channel?
[08:38] <the-erm> Last time I think I had some bad repositories, and ended up re-installing, instead of upgrading.
[08:38] <arunkale> hello
[08:39] <MrBogus> is it also possible for me to have a dual boot?
[08:39] <MrBogus> e.g ubuntu / windows?
[08:39] <Dr_willis> MrBogus,  of course.
[08:39] <arunkale> how do i copy a directory to another directory? i tried cp, but it says 'Name' is a directory (not copied)
[08:39] <MrBogus> thanks
[08:39] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  you proverly want to use the -r for recursive option to cp.
[08:39] <the-erm> MrBogus: backup everything.
[08:39] <Dr_willis> or was it -R... i forget. :)
[08:39] <MrBogus> yeah
[08:39] <the-erm> Well ... the important data then :)
[08:40] <INIT_6> -R
[08:40] <Dr_willis> I tend to use 'mc' way too much :)
[08:40] <arunkale> Thanks, Dr_willis, cp -R seems to be doing the trick
[08:40] <arunkale> Dr_willis: what does mc do
[08:40] <Dr_willis> !info mc
[08:40] <ubotu> mc (source: mc): midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-8ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 2059 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[08:40] <Dr_willis> text based 2 pane file manager.
[08:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:41] <Dr_willis> a MUST get. :0
[08:41] <arunkale> cool
[08:41] <arunkale> is it possible to get some sort of progress bar or something in the terminal while copying large directories?
[08:42] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  ive seen various 'progress bar' copy scripts  here and there..
[08:42] <Dr_willis> mc gives you a nice progress bar. :)
[08:42] <svu> is it true that kubuntu requires manual editing of /etc/network/interfaces - for wireless interfaces? KNetworkManager cannot enable wifi :(
[08:42] <Dr_willis> svu,  for my laptop i did not have to edit anything manually
[08:43] <MrBogus> is there any forums for kubuntu?
[08:43] <Dr_willis> MrBogus,  the kubuntu homepage has links to them.. and other documention
[08:43] <Dr_willis> !forums
[08:43] <svu> Dr_willis: in KNM I tried "enable wireless" - but it did not change anything. What did you do on your laptop?
[08:43] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[08:43] <MrBogus> thanks
[08:43] <Lynoure> svu: I originally needed to comment out my wlan card for /etc/network/interfaces, aften that haven't needed to edit a thing related to it
[08:44] <the-erm> Everything in my house is wired but the wii.
[08:44] <Dr_willis> For my laptop - i installed the broadcom package. and  clicked on some gizmo and entered my ssid and password.. and that was about it..  I was amazed that it worked. :)
[08:44] <Dr_willis> the-erm,  :) the one gizmo with built in wireless is wired. :)  same as my wii!
[08:45] <svu> Dr_willis: I expected the same. And it did not even add it to /etc/network/interfaces
[08:45] <INIT_6> mc
[08:45] <svu> I seen eth1 in ifconfig output
[08:45] <INIT_6> srry wrong window
[08:46] <MrBogus> i chose 8.04
[08:46] <MrBogus> should i download everything?
[08:47] <Lynoure> MrBogus: everything is a bit too much. Are you doing a fresh install, upgrade or what?
[08:47] <the-erm> I think he's doing a fresh install.
[08:47] <Dr_willis> MrBogus,  you download the .iso image file for the specific disrto/variant you want
[08:48] <Dr_willis> You then properly burn the iso file (as an IMAGE) to a blank cd. :)
[08:48] <MrBogus> Lynoure: I'm doing a fresh install
[08:48] <Lynoure> MrBogus: Dr_willis's advice is all good, then :)
[08:49] <MrBogus> Thanks to you both
[08:49] <MrBogus> :)
[08:49] <MrBogus> i have started to download now.
[08:49] <the-erm> < I repeat make sure you back up >
[08:49] <MrBogus> yeah. thanks for the warn.
[08:50] <Dr_willis> most likely you want the file            http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[08:50] <the-erm> If you want to dual boot you should make sure you have a copy of the xp disk.  Windows will freak when it notices the partition is a different size.
[08:50] <Dr_willis> depending on which mirror you selected
[08:50] <Dr_willis> the-erm,  ive never noticed it freaking. :)
[08:50] <The_ManU_212> INIT_6: cant you help me?
[08:51] <the-erm> I hate windows for that.  Put in a new drive ... and it won't boot without a disk.
[08:51] <MrBogus> then i will make a bootable disk? or just make a datadisk?
[08:51] <the-erm> It happened to me.
[08:51] <INIT_6> Sorry, I don't know that mush about it.
[08:52] <INIT_6> You don't have any weired setup do you. like going through a KVM switch. I know that mess me up.
[08:52] <Lynoure> MrBogus: if you burn the .iso, it will be bootable.
[08:52] <MrBogus> ok. then i will just choose data cd for burning
[08:53] <INIT_6> The_ManU_212: I know I like to install the nvida x server settings to help me tweak with the configuration not sure how other people feel about that software but I likeit.
[08:53] <Lynoure> MrBogus: don't worry too much about which to choose (kde3 or kde4), as you can install the other to be on the side when you are done, if you wish
[08:54] <MrBogus> okay, I have already windows on my system (drive c:), my drive d: is empty. can I install ubuntu without distorbing windows on drive c:
[08:54] <MrBogus> ?
[08:55] <Dr_willis> MrBogus,  you do NOT make a 'data' disk - you use a tool that burns the .iso as an image.. such as burnatonce, or nero, or other tools.
[08:55] <Dr_willis> MrBogus,  You can delete the D: parittion and instgall linux in the unallocated space. Is one way
[08:55] <MrBogus> but windows will not be altered if i do so?
[08:55] <Dr_willis> If you have nothing on D: then  it should ent be.
[08:56] <MrBogus> thanks
[08:56] <Dr_willis> You can play with the LiveCD and toy withlinux all you want without installing also.
[08:56] <MrBogus> what file is it?
[08:56] <MrBogus> what file is it for LiveCD?
[08:56] <Dr_willis> what file is what?
[08:57] <Dr_willis> The desktop cd is a live cd.
[08:57] <Dr_willis> You boot it. get a nice linux desktop, with an Install icon you can use if you want.
[08:59] <MrBogus> can I also download a Desktop cd?
[09:00] <MrBogus> i'm in 10% of my download now. lol
[09:00] <Lynoure> MrBogus: live cd is the cd you install the desktop from, too
[09:01] <MrBogus> okay. that clears me.
[09:01] <MrBogus> :)
[09:02] <harris_> i cannot evven install a flash player from my CD
[09:15] <crazy_bus> I installed ogg convert on 8.04 but it seems to be broken.  It can't open a svg with gtk.  Should I install something to make it work?
[09:20] <crazy_bus> nm.  I found the correct thing.
[09:22] <rydan> any idea how to make widgets sticky on the desktop?
[09:23] <rydan> or, rather, dock them?
[09:32] <harris_> hey how can i watch video streaming
[09:32] <warren_> euhm, doesn't it work? :D
[09:33] <Dr_willis> harris_,  mplayer, and vlc can play many streams
[09:33] <warren_> kaffeine does too i think
[09:33] <harris_> i cant watch video from youtube
[09:34] <warren_> and as it is installed by default
[09:34] <warren_> that's flash
[09:34] <warren_> install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:34] <harris_> okay i can't even install flash
[09:34] <warren_> or to install everything to read multimedia: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:34] <warren_> harris_ : with adept!
[09:34] <obadiah_> I'm trying to install the Oxford English Dictionary under wine. This is a two CD install. When it gets to the second CD it is unable to recognize the file. Is there any way around this?
[09:35] <MrBogus> any good tutorial for installing kubuntu?
[09:35] <warren_> euhm, maybe your cd has some problem
[09:35] <harris_> im really having NOSEBLEED with this linux....... HARD TIME but FUN
[09:35] <warren_> harris_ : don't you understand?, it's quite simple
[09:35] <Dr_willis> whats so hard? :)
[09:36] <warren_> harris_ : open adept and install kubuntu-restricted-eextras
[09:36] <Dr_willis> compared to the song and dance ive had to do with windows this week... I will take linux
[09:36] <harris_> hardddddd....... running application....
[09:36] <warren_> well can't you use a mouse? :)
[09:37] <warren_> harris_: open "adept" (in system) and install this: "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[09:37] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:37] <warren_> restart your desktop and everything should work
[09:37] <harris_> okayyyyy mr warren
[09:37] <harris_> i can't open an .exe file
[09:37] <warren_> no problem
[09:37] <harris_> thats the problem I have installer
[09:37] <Dr_willis> harris_,  where did you even GET a .exe from?
[09:37] <warren_> that's a windows program then
[09:38] <Dr_willis> harris_,  linux is not windows. :)  is the core of the issue...
[09:38] <harris_> most of my cd have .exe file
[09:38] <harris_> OKAY
[09:38] <warren_> well this is for windows users to test
[09:38] <Dr_willis> what exe is this anyway?
[09:38] <warren_> firefox? ;)
[09:38] <harris_> an exe file a flashplayer installer
[09:38] <warren_> there are some windows programs on the cd to test on windows
[09:38] <harris_> firefox
[09:38] <warren_> ah ok
[09:38] <warren_> no
[09:38] <Dr_willis> harris_,  thats 100% the wrong way to install flash under ubuntu.
[09:38] <warren_> install like i said above
[09:39] <harris_> HOW
[09:39] <warren_> with adept
[09:39] <warren_> System -> Ademt
[09:39] <warren_> Adept*
[09:39] <harris_> okay
[09:39] <Dr_willis> to install flash i normally use the command ----------->    sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:39] <warren_> and install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:39] <warren_> well commands aren't recommended for new users
[09:39] <Dr_willis> or use the gui tool like  warren_  is suggesting. It does basicially the same thing.
[09:39] <warren_> yes
[09:39] <harris_> in konsole mr willis
[09:40] <warren_> use adept it's easier
[09:40] <harris_> okay ill go to console
[09:40] <Dr_willis> its much faster to just cut/paste a command .. then to handhold/walk through a GUI series of menus. :)
[09:40] <warren_> why making it difficult?
[09:40] <Dr_willis> assuming he has the repos set up.. this is..  heh.
[09:40] <warren_> well normally they are set up during install, hope they are ;)
[09:40] <thumper> !scim-bridge
[09:40] <Dr_willis> i wonder if the flash factoids have been updated.
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scim-bridge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <Dr_willis> !flash
[09:40] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:40] <Dr_willis> That url  should also guide one through installing flash properly
[09:41] <harris_> harris@harris-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:41] <harris_> Password:
[09:41] <harris_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavai                  able)
[09:41] <harris_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another pro                  ess using it?
[09:41] <harris_> harris@harris-desktop:~$
[09:41] <Dr_willis> harris_,  you can have only 1 'package manager' type tool open at a time.
[09:42] <Dr_willis> either use adept, and install the packages, or close adept and use the command line.
[09:42] <harris_> harris@harris-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:42] <harris_> Reading package lists... Done
[09:42] <harris_> Building dependency tree
[09:42] <harris_> Reading state information... Done
[09:42] <harris_> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:42] <harris_> harris@harris-desktop:~$
[09:42] <Dr_willis> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:42] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 15 (hardy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[09:43] <fable> good morning to all
[09:43] <Dr_willis> the 'multiverse' repository may not be enabled by default.     - some where in the 'adept' tool one can click a box to enable it. - you will then need to 'reload' the reposiutory listings, and then isntall the packages.
[09:44] <Dr_willis> I was thinkign the 'add/remove programs' icon opened a simpiler program that also allowed you to easially enable the extra repos and install things.
[09:50] <harris_> WHHHHHEEWW I GET IT
[09:50] <Dr_willis> Now type in words.. the actions you took... :)
[09:50] <Dr_willis> heh heh..
[09:50] <harris_> CAN SOmeone tell me what is ADEPT MANAGER
[09:50] <Dr_willis> harris_,  a front end to the apt packaing system.
[09:50] <Dr_willis> theres many front ends to the apt system.
[09:50] <harris_> so what is it
[09:51] <harris_> what's its purpose?
[09:51] <Dr_willis> it lets you install things?
[09:51] <claudy> ^^
[09:51] <harris_> hehehhehehehehehheheh I just type firefox then boomm!!
[09:51] <claudy> :3
[09:51] <Dr_willis> and do other tasks..  what sort of answer ya want.. its a tool that  is a front end.. those are common on linux systems
[09:52] <Dr_willis> thers at least 3 (or more) other different front ends to the packing system.
[09:52] <harris_> THIS IS FUN!!!
[09:52] <MrBogus> haha
[09:52] <Dr_willis> !adept | harris_
[09:52] <ubotu> harris_: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:52] <harris_> HEY HEY can someone tell me what programming language should I study?
[09:52] <Dr_willis> harris_,  ALL of them.
[09:52] <claudy> is there a way to revert to the kde3 style menu on kde4?, it bugs me out completely :<
[09:52] <Dr_willis> claudy,  not that i am aware of.
[09:52] <claudy> :/
[09:52] <harris_> hehehehhee Im a vb.net FAN
[09:52] <harris_> so  i think
[09:52] <Dr_willis> I recall a applet for a more normal menu. but not a kde3 menu
[09:53] <harris_> i cant do
[09:53] <Dr_willis> !info gambas
[09:53] <harris_> programming VB.net here
[09:53] <ubotu> Package gambas does not exist in hardy
[09:53] <claudy> hmmrrr
[09:53] <kristian__> bye
[09:53] <Dr_willis> You might want to learn a slightly better language.  then VB.net
[09:53] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:53] <MrBogus> harris_: you learn c/c++
[09:54] <harris_> i know c but c++ not yet
[09:54] <Dr_willis> learn a language, move up/on to others.. the more you learn - the easier it gets to learn others.
[09:54] <harris_> i want some windows application programming
[09:54] <ubuntu__> #kubuntu-de
[09:54] <Dr_willis> Python is handy to learn.
[09:54] <MrBogus> Perl
[09:54] <harris_> hehehehehhehehehe Phyton can i program windows app with Phyton
[09:54] <Dr_willis> Perl is good also. :)
[09:55] <Dr_willis> harris_,  same with perl, ruby, and many other languages also.
[09:55] <Dr_willis> Most all the languages have gui extensions/features.
[09:55] <Dr_willis> harris_,  or you write a 'frontend' to the  app  if its command line only   :)  thers that word again!
[09:56] <MrBogus> harris_: it depends on your interest and what are you wanted to do.
[09:56] <harris_> windows application
[09:56] <Dr_willis> harris_,  how... vague
[09:56] <Dr_willis> You mean apps with  'gui's' ?
[09:56] <harris_> YUPPPP
[09:57] <Dr_willis> thats only slightly less vague. :)
[09:58] <rydan> any idea how to make widgets dock on the desktop?
[09:58] <MrBogus> harris_: start reading a book. lol
[09:58] <Dr_willis> Theres several 'widget' systems out. karamba, desklets,  kde4 has its own system.
[09:59] <harris_> okayyyyyyyyyy windows application - GUI - simple programs lyk games
[09:59] <Dr_willis> and proberly a dozen more i cant rember.
[09:59] <Dr_willis> harris_,  i would say start learning some python, it can do games.
[09:59] <rydan> I need to be more specific.  The built in widget function in kde4.  can these be docked?
[09:59] <harris_> really!
[09:59] <Dr_willis> rydan,  heh.. I dont know that much about kde4 - its a work in progress.
[09:59] <harris_> okay enough of vb.net for now
[10:00] <Dr_willis> !info pysol
[10:00] <ubotu> pysol (source: pysol): X11 solitaire game written in Python. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.82.1-4.1ubuntu7 (hardy), package size 1459 kB, installed size 6840 kB
[10:00] <rydan> dr_willis: yeah, i can see.  i installed it today.
[10:00] <harris_> DR WILLIS u SURE A DOCTOR
[10:00] <Dr_willis> !info slune
[10:00] <ubotu> slune (source: slune): 3D racing and car-crashing game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.13-1 (hardy), package size 10442 kB, installed size 25832 kB