[00:00] <edbian> niteshade, What is your problem?  Can I help?
[00:00] <macossex> @niteshade yeah but at least you know that with the linux communities you might get help
[00:01] <niteshade> my controller won't work right
[00:01] <rinku_kokiri> Devilz_108,  thank you i know how to google. now if you can provide a link or instructions that actually explain what I want done instead of a whole bunch of windows' howto's or incomplete howto's it would actually be useful
[00:01] <rinku_kokiri> how do i mount vhd in ubuntu?
[00:01] <tortoise> edbian, you still in here?
[00:02] <edbian> tortoise, Yep
[00:02] <tortoise> edbian, alright, just checking. I'm almost done typing the lcpsi
[00:02] <niteshade> really, whenever i need to do something besides listen to music, and read email i need to learn exactly how a microchip works and how to do something
[00:02] <tripelb> Hey I get it. no one knows about webcams. It's just that I had a mild preference to get help. So I'll try again later.
[00:03] <Dwade09> well nvm guys i installed gnome alsa mixer and it fixed my headphone issue
[00:03] <edbian> tortoise, I must admit it should not take this long to read :)
[00:03] <tortoise> edbian, ...I thought you wanted it in pastebin?
[00:03] <Starn> exit
[00:03] <Starn> opps
[00:03] <edbian> tortoise, I'd be happy to read it.
[00:03] <Dwade09> can anyone tell my why when i plug my headphones in they are automatically muted and i have to unmute them in alsa mixer ?
[00:03] <edbian> tortoise, I didn't realize that was what you were doing!  I'd forgotten.  I promise not to waste your time like that again
[00:04] <niteshade> edbian: computer scientist, that's awesome.  I lack the patience specifically when dealing with computers.  I love working with mechanical stuff though.  I'm about to go to school to be a mechanic for cars
[00:04] <tortoise> edbian, lol it's alright! I'll read through it, what exactly am I looking for though?
[00:04] <geoffmcc> is there a new processess for ssh key login?
[00:04] <Devilz_108> Good night all :)
[00:04] <edbian> niteshade, :)  Awesome
[00:04] <macossex> @Devilz_108 god night:)
[00:04] <edbian> tortoise, You're looking for the drivers / modules associated with your radeon card.
[00:05] <macossex> @niteshade that's freaking sweet!
[00:05] <niteshade> and i pray to god that i don't ever have to mess with computer modules inside the car
[00:05] <CaneToad> under 10.10, ALT-PrintScreen for taking a screenshot of the current window no longer does anything... bug or deliberate?
[00:05] <macossex> *i meant good night:D
[00:05] <edbian> niteshade, Cars have computers in them too :)
[00:05] <macossex> @niteshade hahahaha
[00:05] <niteshade> i know.  And, i curse that industry decision
[00:06] <Dwade09> hello?
[00:06] <rinku_kokiri> anyone know how i can mount a virtual hard drive file in linux?
[00:06] <niteshade> i just wanna work on stuff and fix stuff without dealing with computers
[00:06] <macossex> @Dwade09 w8 if i can find a solution googling it
[00:06] <macossex> in case of course you haven't already tried that
[00:07] <Dwade09> macossex, i too am googling , but im coming up with dead ends.
[00:07] <niteshade> i will probably just want to work with old diesels
[00:07] <niteshade> and old cars
[00:07] <niteshade> before they had computers
[00:07] <macossex> @Dwade09 who knows?i might find something
[00:08] <Dwade09> im sorry macossex its just every since yesterday its been one thing after another seems to never end
[00:08] <tortoise> edbian, alright, the only thing I see with radeon is this line: "01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]" And the Kernel driver in use is radeon, and the Kernel modules is radeon
[00:08] <CaneToad> rinku_kokiri: a hard drive image file... you probably need to use a loop mount something like mount filename /path/to/mount -o loop
[00:08] <macossex> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-237307.html
[00:08] <edbian> tortoise, mmm, I was afraid of that.
[00:08] <macossex> have you found that already?
[00:08] <edbian> tortoise, You did  good job.  That's exactly what I was looking to know.
[00:08] <niteshade> it's just that whenever i have to igure out something with my computer, either i give up, or wind up destroying my computer with a hammer at the end
[00:08] <macossex> i didn't read it
[00:09] <niteshade> out of frustration
[00:09] <tortoise> edbian, thank you. So, what exactly does this mean?
[00:09] <edbian> tortoise, There are a couple drivers for your card.  fglrx  (proprietary, made by ati). radeon (open source), and vesa (open source fall back driver)
[00:09] <edbian> tortoise, According to that output you're using radeon.  This usually is the best choice.
[00:09] <Dwade09> macossex,  yes, and its not really the same, i plgu the headphones in they are muted i have to unmute them, but hwen i unplug them my speakers work fine.
[00:10] <rinku_kokiri> The device '/dev/loop0' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[00:10] <niteshade> i also can't sit in front of a computer for too long without getting pissed of
[00:10] <niteshade> * of
[00:10] <niteshade> * off
[00:10] <Dwade09> its just my headphones seem to be auto muted its the front row speaker macossex
[00:10] <edbian> tortoise, Look in the output of dmesg.  Do you see anything regarding your card in there?
[00:10] <macossex> @Dwade09  i've never heard of this
[00:10] <edbian> tortoise, Look near the end
[00:10] <niteshade> it's why none of my laptops or computers last very long
[00:10] <macossex> @does it happen just on Ubuntu?
[00:11] <niteshade> eh?
[00:11] <Dwade09> macossex,  i have volume control and gnome alsa mixer up, in alsa mixer its showing muted on the front, and in volume control it shows the same.
[00:11] <rypervenche> How can I run a program from my terminal that will remain active even after I close my terminal?
[00:11] <jo___> hey everyone, I want to connect to my samba from a xp, I can connect just fine with firefox but when I use windows explorer, he asks for a password and a username. Another howto told me just fill in something but that doesn't work
[00:11] <Dwade09> macossex,  yes, when i ahd windows it was fine somewhat lol
[00:11] <judax> rypervenche: &
[00:11] <tortoise> edbian, I'm not seeing dmesg anywhere near the end. What else should be near it?
[00:11] <retfar> niteshade: rack ur brain on this http://perfmon2.sourceforge.net/pfmon_intel_core.html
[00:11] <edbian> rypervenche, By ending the command with a &  (i.e. firefox&)
[00:11] <Leijon7> drivers still dont work  :'(
[00:11] <macossex> @Dwade09 w8 to see if there's an automute option
[00:12] <judax> rypervenche: program_name &
[00:12] <edbian> tortoise, No, run dmesg.  It's a command.  Look a the end of dmesg   for something related to the card.
[00:12] <MindVirus> My MIDI drums sound like a piano.
[00:12] <tortoise> edbian, oohhh okay.
[00:12] <Dwade09> i been looking macossex i was about to lay down when this problem popped up
[00:12] <Leijon7> drivers are the achilles heal of ubuntu it seeems
[00:12] <MindVirus> Please help.
[00:12] <edbian> tortoise, yeah
[00:12] <MindVirus> Leijon7: You'd be surprised.
[00:13] <niteshade> the ironic part is that i used to love this stuff...
[00:13] <niteshade> now it brings me nothing but pain
[00:13] <tortoise> edbian, At the end I get, "radeon 0000:01:05.0: HDMI Type A-1: EDID invalid.
[00:13] <tortoise> oops, that's not all...one second lol
[00:13] <rypervenche> edbian: when I close my terminal it closes my program as well
[00:13] <macossex> @Dwade09 sorry to hear that. the problem is that i'm using the live cd so I can't fully test it
[00:13] <edbian> tortoise, Don't post a ton of stuff here.
[00:13] <edbian> rypervenche, did you type a &
[00:14] <macossex> i mean i don't have songs or something like that on my computer
[00:14] <manuel_> can soemeone help me install libreoffice?
[00:14] <tortoise> edbian, it's only two lines
[00:14] <edbian> tortoise, k
[00:14] <Leijon7> mindvirus; suprised positive or negative?
[00:14] <macossex> @manuel why? you don't like openoffice? just curious
[00:14] <rypervenche> edbian: I did. It allows me to do other things with the terminal, but once I close the terminal, the program closes as well.
[00:15] <Dwade09> @ macossex can you maybe try with youtube?
[00:15] <tortoise> edbian, "radeon 0000:01:05.0: HDMI Type A-1: EDID invalid. [drm:radeon_dvi_detect] *ERROR* HDMI Type A-1: probed a monitor but no|invalid EDID
[00:15] <manuel_> @macossex why cant they just have it in the software center, i dont understand this rpm business
[00:15] <RainbowChild> Salut, salut
[00:15] <darkkrai> is there anyway to get the 64 bit deb of the startup disk creator?
[00:15] <LjL> manuel_: what? Ubuntu doesn't use RPM
[00:15] <edbian> tortoise, The system doesn't like your monitor for some reason.  Do you have a weird monitor?
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> darkkrai: packages.ubuntu.com
[00:16] <macossex> @Dwade09 i'll try
[00:16] <tortoise> edbian, nope. It's a laptop, same monitor that has been on there forever.
[00:16] <niteshade> i'm hoping to become an expert in all things fast.  Once i'm through with school, i'll get a job at a napa and go back to school to be a jet mechanic
[00:16] <macossex> @manuel what distro are you using?
[00:16] <LjL> manuel_: Ubuntu currently has OpenOffice.org in the repositories. the next version, though, will have LibreOffice.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> darkkrai: or you can use apt-get to only download the deb to /var/cache/apt/archives
[00:16] <Dwade09> @ macossex you do not have to i was just wondering.
[00:16] <niteshade> brb
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> macossex: most likely ubuntu
[00:16] <iisjmii> Can any body please tell me how to autologin to tty1 on startup. I followed this howto: http://linuxtree.blogspot.com/2010/01/enable-automatic-login-in-ubuntu-910.html but my pc does not switch to a tty on startup
[00:17] <macossex> @Dwade09 i know i don't have to. i want to
[00:17] <edbian> tortoise, I'm not sure then.  Sounds like something is wrong with the way the driver is written.
[00:17] <iisjmii> it just displays a flashing cursor until I press ntr+alt+F1
[00:17] <manuel_> ubuntu 10.10
[00:17] <tortoise> edbian, that's really strange...I haven't changed anything about it since I started using ubuntu
[00:17] <macossex> @actionParsnip yeah but he mentioned the rpms so i had to ask:)
[00:17] <edbian> tortoise, Did you update to 10.10 and then have this problem?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> macossex: makes sense, use tab to complete nicks dude ;)
[00:18] <tortoise> edbian, I haven't updated to 10.10 at all. Unless ubuntu updates automatically.
[00:18] <judax> rypervenche: &
[00:18] <edbian> tortoise, cat /etc/debian_version
[00:18] <macossex> @manuel you want libreoffice or you'd be satisfied with openoffice as well?
[00:18] <LjL> (and drop the @ which is not really needed or useful)
[00:18] <judax> rypervenche: did you see my response earlier?
[00:18] <macossex> @ActionParsnip hehe thanks
[00:18] <tortoise> edbian, squeeze/sid
[00:18] <Dwade09> thank you macossex
[00:19] <judax> rypervenche: put an ampersand after the command
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> macossex: if you drop the @ then the text will highlight,just like text intended for you does
[00:19] <manuel_> i already have openoffice, but i wanted to try out libreoffice
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> macossex: it makes the nick not highlight
[00:19] <edbian> tortoise, Ha, that's not related.  What version is listed in system-monitor?
[00:19] <macossex> ActionParsnip, wow now i get it
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> manuel_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/install-libreoffice-ppa-ubuntu/
[00:19] <macossex> :D
[00:19] <MindVirus> My MIDI drumset sounds like a piano. Can anyone help?
[00:20] <tortoise> edbian, How do I get to system-monitor without gui?
[00:20] <edbian> tortoise, Oh.  Didn't realize you were only cli.
[00:20] <edbian> tortoise, You can't :)
[00:20] <tortoise> edbian, oh. Yeah, I am.
[00:20] <iisjmii> MindVirus: Don't hit it :P
[00:20] <iisjmii> Sorry
[00:20] <macossex> Dwade09, i'm installing flash to watch videos on youtube so don't leave yet
[00:20] <manuel_> thanks actionarpsnip
[00:20] <shawnboy> As far as I know, Ubuntu chooses to use the wired connection instead of wireless if present, right?
[00:20] <MindVirus> Does anyone know why it's not making drum sounds?
[00:20] <Dwade09> not going anywhere macossex although i really wana sleep but i wana get this fixed first
[00:20] <edbian> tortoise, It doesn't matter.  You would have rememberd the upgrade.  And it doesn't happen automatically.
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> shawnboy: if the wired is connected then yes
[00:21] <macossex> Dwade09, haha been there!
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> shawnboy: NB. You cannot connect 2 interfaces to the same router without getting issues
[00:21] <tortoise> edbian, in that case, I am still using 10.04
[00:21] <rypervenche> I made a shell script to killall ibus-daemon then start a game. I want to automatically restart ibus-daemon once the game finishes. Without "&" the terminal window stays there, with "&" it does not keep ibus-daemon open. How can I fix this?
[00:22] <shawnboy> ActionParsnip: ok, here's my prob then... Ubuntu A is connected to Ubuntu B with wire, no internet. Computer A is also connected wifi to internet. See my prob?
[00:22] <macossex> Dwade09, don't get your hopes up though. I might not be able to help. i don't wanna be yet another disappointment to you
[00:22] <edbian> tortoise, I'm not sure what the problem is.  All I can say is that the system is giving cryptic errors about your monitor.  Ask in #radeon.  They are very knowledgeable (but a bit rude so be nice)
[00:22] <Dwade09> macossex,  i have i have via vt1708s sound card
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> shawnboy: can A ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[00:22] <shawnboy> I need Ubuntu A to access files on Ubuntu B AND have internet access via wifi simultaneously.
[00:23] <shawnboy> ActionParsnip: well, it's not connected at this moment, so I can't answer that right now. tried it earlier tonight.
[00:23] <macossex> Dwade09, thanks even though i'm a noob when it comes to hardware
[00:23] <tortoise> edbian, thank you for your help. I'll go see if I can't figure it out in that channel
[00:23] <tortoise> ciao
[00:23] <edbian> tortoise, I'll come with
[00:23] <shawnboy> in theory, ActionParsnip, can you envision way to do that?
[00:23] <manuel_> ActionParsnips, i think the webpage you gave me for Libre is missing a command
[00:23] <Dwade09> figured it might have helped some lol and your welcome macossex
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> shawnboy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[00:24] <Dwade09> and thank you macossex for helping
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> shawnboy: the network between the 2 PCs needs to be a different subnet to the wireless side
[00:24] <macossex> Dwade09, don't mention it
[00:24] <Dwade09> macossex,  if it helps im in 10.10 64bit
[00:24] <Br0lly> IS there any way to make Microsoft Office work on ubuntu lol
[00:24] <shawnboy> ActionParsnip: I'll read that link and I can make them dif subnets no prob. Thank you.
[00:25] <niteshade> yo
[00:25] <shawnboy> ActionParsnip: really quickly... any magic with gateway setting I need to be sure of? let's say wifi is DHCP, but should I leave wired as static and no gateway?
[00:25] <UbuntAlex> SDLFJDSEWLRN
[00:25] <niteshade> not getting any trick-or-treaters
[00:26] <UbuntAlex> WHY
[00:26] <UbuntAlex> ok sorry
[00:26] <ndxtg> hi, I need to see the process list and the creator of each user, any idea? command line
[00:26] <UbuntAlex> i'm slightly buzzed and trying to install ubuntu for the third time.
[00:26] <niteshade> i got tons of candy for myself now
[00:26] <UbuntAlex> but it's screwing up when trying to mess with partitions
[00:26] <ndxtg> *creator of each process
[00:26] <UbuntAlex> i HAVE to have dead sectors on my harddrive.
[00:26] <shawnboy> BTW, Happy Reformation Day everyone.
[00:26] <rypervenche> edbian: did you see my problem? (can't repost, on iPhone)
[00:26] <macossex> Dwade09, i don't think it's a software issue. I mean there's not aproblem with a codec or smth like that
[00:26] <UbuntAlex> it's GOT to be that.
[00:26] <steev_> niteshade, lucky!
[00:26] <niteshade> yah
[00:27] <macossex> i'm guessing it needs some tweaking but when the flash downloads i'll try it
[00:27] <edbian> rypervenche, About the app closing when you close the panel?
[00:27] <Um_cara_qualquer> Anybody there who knows how to extract/execute/etc... .pck archives?
[00:27] <UbuntAlex> um.
[00:27] <macossex> sorry it takes so much time but like i said i'm using the live cd and my internet connection is busy with something else
[00:28] <rypervenche> edbian: yeah, I posted a rather long description about it.
[00:28] <macossex> it's just stuck on the downloading process
[00:28] <edbian> rypervenche, use disown
[00:28] <niteshade> edbian, what's a computer scientist?
[00:28] <smalls> Is it normal for something to connect to ME from THEIR port 80?  Oct 31 19:24:25 wasp kernel: [ 9259.627531] iptables ALERT: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=e0:cb:4e:9e:55:74:00:01:02:cd:5b:9f:08:00 SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DST=<IP_ADDRESS> LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=51 ID=45900 PROTO=TCP SPT=80 DPT=43324 WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 RST URGP=0
[00:28] <Dwade09> macossex,  no need to apologize really, im trying to figure it out as well,
[00:28] <KhadorMech> anyone mind a unr display question?
[00:28] <edbian> niteshade, A person that studies computers :)
[00:28] <UbuntAlex> EVERY TIME
[00:28] <edbian> rypervenche, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/close-terminal-mean-close-background-process-566205/
[00:29] <UbuntAlex> i try to install ubuntu it locks up
[00:29] <UbuntAlex> and it locks up randomly in windows.
[00:29] <UbuntAlex> it's GOT to be the drive.
[00:29] <FloodBot4> UbuntAlex: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:29] <niteshade> yeah, but we already know about computers, cause we made them!  Scientists discover, man!
[00:29] <LjL> !ot
[00:29] <brandon77> How is the latest release of Ubuntu handle with the AMD Hexcore processors?
[00:30] <demi> hi, does anyone know of a way to see how much power a usb device is taking when plugged in?
[00:30] <macossex> Dwade09, i'm searching the forums and it seems everyone's had the exact opposite problem
[00:30] <KhadorMech> My 10.10 cannot use vga to my Hi-def Sony TV.  Solutions suggest I check the xorg.conf, but I can't find one.
[00:30] <macossex> their speakers don't mute when they plug in their headphones
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> KhadorMech: one doesn't exist by default, but if you make one it will be obeyed
[00:31] <Dwade09> yes, that is what i am finding out as well macossex it is weird my system does everything backwards or sideways.
[00:31] <Um_cara_qualquer> Anyone... please i beg for a little help hehe :(
[00:31] <KhadorMech> ActionParsnip: where should I place the file, or is there an autoconfigure?
[00:31] <niteshade> i'm already a tradesman without being a mechanic first tho
[00:31] <MindVirus> I need MIDI. Can someone help?
[00:31] <edbian> Um_cara_qualquer, We don't even know what ur problem is!
[00:32] <Um_cara_qualquer> i don't know what to do with a pck file
[00:32] <niteshade> i'm a bongsmith
[00:32] <rypervenche> Thank you both for your help. I will use disown^^
[00:32] <UbuntAlex> :/
[00:32] <Um_cara_qualquer> it is a game... but i don't know how to install from it
[00:32] <Um_cara_qualquer> or extract...
[00:32] <niteshade> i create bongs with expertise
[00:32] <macossex> Dwade09, when you plug your speakers in your laptop instead of the speakers does the problem go away/
[00:32] <niteshade> aka "waater pipes"
[00:33] <demi> so no way to tell what the power consumed by a usb device is?
[00:33] <Dwade09> macossex,  i do not have other speakers i just have system built in speakers
[00:33] <Um_cara_qualquer> edbian, and I already searched the entire google on it X_X
[00:33] <Swian> the entire google
[00:33] <Dwade09> macossex,  if you like to carry this chat in pm if itd be easier for you that is fine with me.
[00:33] <rammyIRC> guyz i want to instal yahoo messenger on ubuntu
[00:33] <Swian> that's a lot of reading
[00:33] <rammyIRC> pointer please
[00:34] <CrimsonIdol> demi, um, 5volts?
[00:34] <Um_cara_qualquer> i'm a reader man hehe
[00:34] <Swian> rammyIRC you can use pidgin or empathy to connect to Yahoo
[00:34] <equus> rammy
[00:34] <macossex> Dwade09, you mean im?
[00:34] <rammyIRC> i wantto have same messenger features like chat room and video cam
[00:34] <equus> rammyIRC,  open yahoo home page click on messager
[00:34] <demi> CrimsonIdol, i meant the current draw.
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> KabukiOrigin: it resides in /etc/X11
[00:35] <KhadorMech> On the USB question I'm seeing suggestions about using the ACPI tools and checking before and after you unplug the device
[00:35] <equus> rammyIRC,  there is no need to install anything
[00:35] <rammyIRC> really
[00:35] <rammyIRC> !!
[00:36] <KhadorMech> Thanks Action!!!
[00:37] <rammyIRC> sorry i cudnt find it
[00:37] <rammyIRC> im dumb:(
[00:37] <Um_cara_qualquer> Someone help me... I need to install or extract a .pck archive
[00:37] <LadySerena> wow, I installed Xubuntu on the machine with 256MB memory
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> KhadorMech: if you use proprietary nvidia drivers you can make a file which you can then edit using: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[00:37] <LadySerena> the only time it crawls is when new software is being installed
[00:37] <LadySerena> other than that, its actually pretty quick
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> Um_cara_qualquer: try extracting it with unzip
[00:37] <sarthor> Hi, when i am opening Gnome Terminal windows, so i am getting this Error, http://pastebin.com/GNxNtr8V , i am using maverick, i386 with GUI, How to solve,
[00:37] <xsystem> hi
[00:37] <xsystem> please help me
[00:37] <KhadorMech> ActionParsnip: I'm using the intel graphics drivers for an HP mini 110
[00:38] <Um_cara_qualquer> ActionParsnip, is that already in karmic default?
[00:38] <equus> rammyIRC,  if you have opened your email or something it may not be there
[00:38] <rammyIRC> http://webmessenger.yahoo.com/
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> sarthor: try:  cd /home; sudo chown -R sarthor:sarthor ./sarthor
[00:38] <serard> Hello everybody
[00:38] <xsystem> I start up my computer and the default resolution is 800x600
[00:38] <rammyIRC> is this what r u talking abt
[00:39] <xsystem> how can i change it
[00:39] <serard> I've just installed ubuntu 10.10 on my imac, yeeaaah so far so good :o) Now I want to install a virtualization software. Which one the best (faster) ?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> xsystem: run: sudo lshw -C display   use the product line to find guides
[00:39] <equus> rammyIRC,  yes that is it
[00:39] <LadySerena> serard - I use VirtualBox for all my VM needs
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> serard: none are best
[00:39] <sarthor> ActionParsnip, I am root, and root@ThinkPad-SL510:/home#  chown -R sarthor:sarthor ./sarthor
[00:39] <sarthor> chown: cannot access `./sarthor/.gvfs': Permission denied
[00:39] <demi> rammyIRC, have you considered using pidgin
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> sarthor: yes you'll get that as its a special folder
[00:40] <rammyIRC> equus: thanks got it working.... i was tryin it in chromium... its not working there but in firefox
[00:40] <sarthor> ActionParsnip, but the error fixed.
[00:40] <rammyIRC> demi:nope
[00:40] <rammyIRC> demi:is that really better
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> serard: you can use vmware, qemu or virtualbox amongst others
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> sarthor: ok, do terminals run ok now?
[00:40] <Um_cara_qualquer> ActionParsnip, I already have unzip it seems... but there's no option of "extract with unzip"... how can i extract that?
[00:40] <sarthor> ActionParsnip, No matter if i am 72male, and you are Cyber guy, but i love you.
[00:40] <Stevethepirate> Getting a new DSL modem, and wondering what in particular to look for that will work well with multiple pppoe connections from an Ubuntu box (to be shared over a network). Commends.
[00:40] <sarthor> yea ActionParsnip yea OK now.
[00:40] <Stevethepirate> *comments
[00:41] <serard> Thank you ActionParsnip and LadySerena ! Both have "headless" mode ?
[00:41] <xsystem> how
[00:41] <serard> "both", all :)
[00:41] <demi> rammyIRC, dunno, only ever used it for standard IMs, never tried anything else on it
[00:41] <LadySerena> VirtualBox server does
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Um_cara_qualquer: in a terminal type: unzip filename   obviously change filename for the file (with path) you want to extract)
[00:41] <Um_cara_qualquer> hmm
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> sarthor: if yuo quit messing  with root prompts, you'll have fewer issues
[00:41] <demi> it does allow me to keep msn, yahoo and aim al together in a single window
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> sarthor: just use sudo and gksudo and you will have no issues like this ever
[00:42] <rammyIRC> demi:im currently using empathy
[00:42] <rammyIRC> demi: but i cant use it for webcam and stuffs
[00:42] <sarthor> ActionParsnip, OK. i will do like as you suggest, Thanks bro.
[00:43] <administrator> 100200
[00:43] <equus> rammyIRC,  I am fairly sure that yahoo messenger runs on flash so it can be a pain on lower powered boxes
[00:43] <demi> same sort of idea then rammyIRC as i say, cant vouch for pidgin being any better
[00:44] <rammyIRC> demi:i understand
[00:45] <phuzion> Hi, I've got two machines that are publicly accessible to the internet, one is a VNC server, the other is (among other things) an SSH server.  Only problem is that the VNC server isn't working over a WAN connection (probably due to firewall rules, outside of my control).  How can I use the SSH server to tunnel the incoming VNC connection to the VNC server?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | phuzion
[00:46] <xsystem> how can I change my default resolution from 800x600 to 1152.864
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> phuzion: there may be a more graceful method to achieve your goal, what do you do when you connect via VNC?
[00:47] <ghostnik11> pjsingh5000: everytime i click on the pastebin link i get the launchpad sign in window
[00:47] <niteshade> anyways, about my controller problem:  It works in torcs, but not in nexuiz.  This leaves me thinking that it's nexuiz's fault.  But, there's no controller config options in nexuiz.
[00:48] <niteshade> that's the main prob
[00:48] <Stevethepirate> If I'm planning to use a DSL modem (with 802.11n), but instead use PPPOE from an ubuntu box to make multiple DSL connections: 1) Any restrictions on what the modems needs to have 2) Will wireless clients be able to connect via wireless -> routed via the ubuntu box -> internet?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: yes you can setup an ubuntu box as a wireless router
[00:49] <Um_cara_qualquer> ActionParsnip, I tried to extract it 4 times in 4 diferent directories... the terminal still says that it cant find the file o_O
[00:49] <jigrscr0608> nueb here:  Is there anyone who can help me to configure samba to be used as a domain?
[00:49] <xsystem> how can I change my default resolution from 800x600 to 1152.864
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Um_cara_qualquer: use cd to (c)hange (d)irectory to the one containing the file. If you run: ls (spoken: ell-ess), you should see the file, then you can ignore the path part of the filename
[00:50] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: The problem is the DSL Modem will be working as both a wireless router and as for PPPOE.
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: the ubuntu box will establish the PPOE on one interface with the modem, the use a different interface to share the connection out
[00:51] <phuzion> ActionParsnip: The VNC Server is a windows machine, the SSH server is a linux box.  I use it to control a program that is Windows only :(  When I would connect to the VNC server, I have to be on the LAN in order to connect to it, but having remote access would be ideal.
[00:51] <jigrscr0608> can anyone help?
[00:51] <Stevethepirate> So I need 2 network cards on the ubuntu box? Or 2 pseudo interfaces?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> phuzion: you can use RDP to windows and it is secure, VNC is not secure in anyway
[00:52] <phuzion> ActionParsnip: that
[00:52] <phuzion> is blocked
[00:52] <glaucous> How do I set Ubuntu to use ALSA instead of PulseAudio by default? I just reinstalled, and my last install had a System Audio Selector (or something) in which I could change it.
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: either is fine, if you want decent speed then 2 physical devices is ideal
[00:53] <n00bnix> anyone here happen to be a filesystems whiz?
[00:53] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: I'm in .za, DSL speeds are like 4mbit or 10mbit max :(
[00:53] <Um_cara_qualquer> what's the site to put big messages to avoid flood?
[00:53] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: you could point me at some relevant literature for PPPOE? Does it connect via normal eth to one of the routers ports?
[00:54] <n00bnix> pastebin I think, Um_cara_qualquer
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> !ppoe
[00:54] <n00bnix> !PPPOE
[00:54] <Stevethepirate> Ty.
[00:54] <n00bnix> :P
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> !adsl | Stevethepirate
[00:54] <Stevethepirate> Ye, saw. http://www.take2.co.za/electronics-trendnet-300mbps-wireless-n-adsl2-2-modem-router-4311963.html <-- Does this look ok?
[00:54] <Um_cara_qualquer> n00bnix,  thx
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: sure, it'll be cheaper to run too as your PC uses a lot of power compared to a home grade router
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: unless your pc is on 24/7
[00:55] <dubside> Hi all, sorry that this is slightly off topic but, when recieving an email from a blackberry, how exactly does the "sent via blackberry" appear ( aesthetically speaking ) ? I mean appearence wise is there a "--" above it or anything?
[00:55] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: Oh, so you saying I don't even need a DSL router?
[00:55] <Um_cara_qualquer> ActionParsnip, check this out
[00:55] <Um_cara_qualquer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/523580/
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: if you setup the sharing of the connection, your PC will be a router
[00:56] <n00bnix> so, who wants to help me recover an ext4 filesystem that mount can't mount (freezes doing something called "get_super") and e2fsck won't check? (insists the device is busy or already mounted, which it isn't)
[00:56] <Stevethepirate> Yes, but the DSL modem is acting as a router right? Converting DSL -> eth.
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Um_cara_qualquer: ok so its not a zip file, what is the output of:  file sound.pck
[00:57] <edbian> n00bnix, just a thought, dd if=/dev/brokenDrive of=/path/to/some/folder
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: a modem id a modem, a router with a modem is a modem/router
[00:57] <n00bnix> I tried forcing e2fsck to use one of the backup superblocks after doing an e2fsdump but it still insists the device is busy when it's not
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: if you have a modem/router you can buy a cheap ethernet switch and share the connection that way
[00:57] <n00bnix> edbian: it's a 996 GB filesystem, and the one and only physical hard drive :P
[00:58] <edbian> n00bnix, wow, good luck with that
[00:58] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: Oh ok. I'm now up to speed. Ye, I have 2x 24 port 3com switches.
[00:58] <n00bnix> (the remaining 4 GB of the drive had been set up as the swap, but I deleted the swap because I thought that may have been making e2fsck think the drive was busy)
[00:58] <Um_cara_qualquer> ActionParsnip, what do you mean? I'm not an expert but I thought pck was the output
[00:58] <abstrakt> any recommendations for screencasting software on ubuntu/*nix ?
[00:58] <abstrakt> I'm using GNOME (if it matters)
[00:58] <Pici> !screencast | abstrakt
[00:59] <abstrakt> Pici, sweet, thanks :)
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Um_cara_qualquer: its a command, I gave a command, copy and paste the comamnd and run it, a non-expert can do that
[00:59] <Pici> abstrakt: np
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Um_cara_qualquer: http://forum.xentax.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4508&p=40250
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> abstrakt: recordmydesktop
[00:59] <Spy_o> hi all
[00:59] <CrimsonIdol> man, I was just gonna change my nick to Deathspawn...
[00:59] <n00bnix> the funny thing is, when I boot off that hard drive, GRUB can see the files on it still... I just end up having a busybox terminal because it can't mount the /dev/sda2 filesystem
[00:59] <abstrakt> ActionParsnip, so is that your preferred screen casting software on *nix?
[00:59] <Spy_o> i have a problem
[01:00] <Deathspawn> CrimsonIdol: And then you would have gotten ghosted. :)
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> abstrakt: i dont use one, its one I know about. why do you want one that#s "preferred" by a total stranger? Why not try a few and see which you preffer?
[01:00] <ludwin> hi everyone
[01:00] <Spy_o> i connect my pc with ubuntu to my tv
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> Spy_o: ask away
[01:01] <Spy_o> i connect my pc with ubuntu to my tv
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> hi ludwin
[01:01] <yagoo> n00bnix, "because it can't mount" << "it" is it. sounds too clear to me.. sounds like an "it' problem.
[01:01] <Spy_o> and i have problem with resize
[01:01] <n00bnix> so of course, I tried the obvious stuff... booted off a live USB and tried the e2fsck, which won't touch the partition, and mount just freezes doing the "get_super", so I think it's because of the superblock being corrupt, and I could fix that from one of the backup ones, if only e2fsck would run
[01:01] <Spy_o> how can i rotate ubuntu desktop or resize
[01:02] <gogeta1> Spy_o: try usin xrander on that display to change the size
[01:02] <Spy_o> gogetal i try it
[01:02] <yagoo> n00bnix, if you can speak in english it would make more sense. using the word "it" has no meaning.
[01:02] <Spy_o> but the smaller size 640x480 i need smaller
[01:03] <yagoo> Spy_o, 640x480 is like the 1990's..
[01:03] <geitenneuker> yagoo: if you can speak hebrew, it would make no sense to boil a chicken without water.
[01:03] <n00bnix> "it" in that last context means "the error in question", ie. not being able to mount or even fsck.ext4 the partition
[01:03] <gogeta1> Spy_o: 640x480 ia naativ tv rez
[01:03] <Spy_o> its 1990s tv
[01:03] <gogeta1> Spy_o: you can only go to up 800x600 using overscan
[01:04] <ISn2> hello
[01:04] <geitenneuker> gogeta1: crap native is 480x something
[01:04] <KhadorMech> Sounds like you guys are talking resolution.  I'm having a problem getting a netbook to support a hi-res second monitor
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Spy_o: you havent configured your video chip, if you run:  sudo lshw -C display   and use the product line, you can find guides
[01:04] <Um_cara_qualquer> ActionParsnip, sound.pck: data
[01:04] <yagoo> n00bnix, so basically you're wondering if there's a problem with the filesystem. simple enough.. run an e2fsck with a live booted cd..
[01:04] <gogeta1> Spy_o: 640x480 is as small as it gets
[01:04] <yagoo> n00bnix, you don't need to mount to use e2fsck.
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Um_cara_qualquer: thought so, kinda hoped it would see what it was
[01:04] <Um_cara_qualquer> ActionParsnip, hmm and what it means?
[01:04] <gogeta1> geitenneuker: 480p is max for a sd tv
[01:04] <geitenneuker> moongose
[01:04] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: qq, when doing pppoe; even though the device is connected via ethernet to the modem/router; how does it know the correct IP, etc for the modem/router?
[01:05] <n00bnix> yagoo: I've TRIED that! e2fsck will not run on the partition. e2fsck tells me the device is busy or the partition is mounted. The device is not busy, and the partition is not mounted when I tried to run the e2fsck.
[01:05] <gogeta1> geirha: you can emulate higher rez via overscan but it will look crappy
[01:05] <Spy_o> gogetal how can i do oversize?
[01:06] <gogeta1> Spy_o: been a long time i forgot how to enable overscan to give you a higher rez but rember it will lost alot of qualty
[01:06] <Um_cara_qualquer> ActionParsnip, sorry about my english... it's been a while
[01:07]  * yagoo fsck.ext4
[01:07] <n00bnix> Strangely, GRUB can see the files on the drive when I ls the root, (hd0,msdos2) and GRUB loads the kernel and initrd.lz and then the system boots into a busybox shell because /dev/sda2 cannot be mounted.
[01:07] <gogeta1> Spy_o: check your videos card controle panel and look for overscan
[01:07] <yagoo> n00bnix, did u use another partitioning tool mix?
[01:08] <Spy_o> i dont have control panel for my video card
[01:08] <Spy_o> i have intel
[01:08] <gogeta1> Spy_o: of even the second duisplay propterys
[01:08] <yagoo> n00bnix, you sure dracula didn't bite your neck tonight?
[01:08] <Spy_o> 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC)
[01:09] <n00bnix> yagoo: I'm not sure what you mean? I've just downloaded a copy of PMagic 5.7 though and I'm going to try some of the tools on that.
[01:09] <yagoo> n00bnix, no.
[01:09] <gogeta1> Spy_o: if your using s-video you are limitid to 480p
[01:09] <yagoo> n00bnix, use gparted live cd.. and try moving the start of the partition like 1 meg down
[01:09] <Spy_o> i use rca
[01:09] <jigrscr0608> how can I change my resolution past 1024 x 768?  I had it really high in windows 7.
[01:09] <n00bnix> The partition was created with Gparted from the Ubuntu 10.10
[01:09] <yagoo> n00bnix, that'll set the proper offsets grub is able to work with
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> Spy_o: http://threeeighthsspacer.com/blog/2009/09/08/dell-inspiron-2500-with-intel-82815-graphics-xorgconf-for-1024x768/
[01:10] <gogeta1> Spy_o:  ? a vga box?
[01:10] <Spy_o> yes
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> jigrscr0608: run: sudo lshw -C display    use the product line to find guides
[01:10] <yagoo> n00bnix, i'm guessing you didn't pay attention when you toying around with gparted... you may have wiped out that partition
[01:10] <n00bnix> yagoo: GRUB doesn't have a problem with the filesystem, only linux's mount and fsck.ext4 commands do. Also, I cannot resize the partition in Gparted, I have already tried to shrink it so I could create another to recover it to, using the dd method.
[01:11] <yagoo> n00bnix, partedmagic is ok.. thought u were referring to the commercial partitionmagic
[01:11] <gogeta1> Spy_o: if your using s-vdeio to the tv your limited to 640x480 you need to use a vga rgb box to use overscan
[01:11] <gogeta1> limits of s-video
[01:11] <yagoo> n00bnix, besides gparted what other partition tool was used on this drive?
[01:12] <yagoo> n00bnix, you sould only stick with one of course
[01:12] <n00bnix> yagoo: No others were used
[01:12] <gogeta1> Spy_o: if your using some sort of dvi to standerd tv conversion you should be able to emulate hd rez
[01:12] <yagoo> n00bnix, are you telling me you did a resize on an ext4 filesystem?
[01:12] <jigrscr0608> I have a g84 geforce 8600 gt
[01:12] <UbuntAlex> so. live ubuntu works. live fedora works. locks up on formating partitions for linux. bad harddrive FTW
[01:13] <n00bnix> yagoo: No, because Gparted will not resize it without running e2fsck first.
[01:13] <yagoo> jigrscr0608, i have that too.. it works..
[01:13] <n00bnix> And e2fsck will not run on the partition
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | jigrscr0608
[01:13] <oliver602> is there a known issue with printing files with transparent things in it?
[01:13] <yagoo> n00bnix, so bootup with hardware diagnosis cd.. and see if it can sector test the whole drive..
[01:13] <jigrscr0608> I have a 20" crt that I guess it doesn't recognize.  any ideas
[01:13] <n00bnix> oliver602: If there is, I don't know about it.
[01:14] <n00bnix> yagoo: What tool(s) would you suggest for that? I would want to use something that will do a read-only test, and I think it would take a very long time on a 1TB drive.
[01:14] <oliver602> just di some basic shapes in inkscape. printed fine. added drop shadows, printing takes forever, gs is taking 100% cpu
[01:15] <yagoo> n00bnix, yeah.. it'll take some time..
[01:15] <geitenneuker> i rather to use a old dos programm called interleave for your harddisk
[01:15] <yagoo> n00bnix, theres sysrescuecd and ultimatebootcd ..
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> jigrscr0608: if you haven't installed the driver it won't fire on all cylinders
[01:15] <yagoo> n00bnix, and of course hiren cd
[01:15] <CanadianPirate> Has anyone noticed that gnome-shell takes a hell of a long time to compile
[01:15] <n00bnix> hmmm
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> CanadianPirate: there are repos for it
[01:16] <n00bnix> CanadianPirate: GNOME might not be responsible for how bad GNOME is now... The X.org server is weird at the moment
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> CanadianPirate: http://joneslee85.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/howto-install-gnome-shell-on-ubuntu-maverick-10-10/
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> CanadianPirate: so compiling it is really a fruitless excercise as smoeone has already done it
[01:17] <yagoo> n00bnix, oO what's wrong with x.org ?
[01:17] <n00bnix> ActionParsnip: Maybe he's using a different cpu architecture?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> n00bnix: if s/he hasi686 or amd64 if will work
[01:17] <n00bnix> yagoo: I'm not sure, but for a start, they broke compatibility with the nvidia-96 drivers package
[01:17] <gogeta1> Spy_o: only way to get a higer rez on s standerd tv is using a vga to rgb converter box. mind you it will look shotty
[01:18] <yagoo> n00bnix, nvidia has to update their sources.. that's no x's fault..
[01:18] <CanadianPirate> ActionParsnip I am compiling the newest one, 3.91.1 I think is the version. I could not find a repo for it.
[01:18] <UbuntAlex> D:<
[01:18] <UbuntAlex> ARGGGGH eh.
[01:18] <Spy_o> i must buy a vga to rgb box?
[01:18] <UbuntAlex> oi vey.
[01:18] <n00bnix> yagoo: It might be, depending on what X.org did to break compatibility :P
[01:18] <Spy_o> gogetal i must buy a vga to rgb box?
[01:18] <gogeta1> Spy_o: if you whant to go past the limits of s-video
[01:19] <Dwade09> hia there gogeta1
[01:19] <n00bnix> but we'll never know for sure, unless NVidia open-source their drivers
[01:19] <gogeta1> Spy_o: but at the point it would be better to ge a hd tv with dvi
[01:19] <UbuntAlex> why is it ubuntu can get on my wireless network fine, but fedora is all ELWJHNBFDSLKEJR
[01:19] <yagoo> n00bnix, that still doesn't convince me x.org is weird..
[01:19] <gogeta1> Spy_o: or hdmi if you video card supports it
[01:20] <gogeta1> Spy_o: converting past 680x480 on a stander tv = hard to read text fuzzy display
[01:20] <CanadianPirate> Is anyone here using Utouch?
[01:20] <gogeta1> Spy_o: there not built to display past that
[01:20] <Spy_o> gogetal thanks a lot i trying 7 hours now
[01:21] <n00bnix> I've had a lot of problems with ubuntu 10.10 that I never had with previous versions. I suspect the causes to be changes in the kernel with regards to ext4 filesystems, changes in X.org server making my display drivers not work, and changes to Gnome. I never had problems with 6.06 LTS
[01:21] <Spy_o> i try to oversize
[01:21] <n00bnix> or 8.04, or 9.04, or even 10.04
[01:21] <gogeta1> Spy_o: you can overscan with s-video only with rgb conversion
[01:21] <gogeta1> cant
[01:21] <Laverne12> i forgot my usual IRC chat name, the one i registered. how can i have the email resent with my IRC chat name
[01:22] <yagoo> n00bnix, you seem to be pretty jumped about what the problem is.. Run the hardware sector test first.. then come back and see how others can help..
[01:22] <Ibyss> Can someone show me how I can use the rc.local? Trying to make my apache server start on it's own, but I'm having no luck with getting that to luck. (And solutions I got from google were pretty much no good).
[01:22] <Spy_o> i can not overscan with rca?
[01:22] <gogeta1> Spy_o: is it a vga to rca converter box
[01:23] <Spy_o> is rca to rca
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Ibyss: just add the command you would run as root above the exit 0 line and suffix ithe command with an ampersand character
[01:23] <Spy_o> i have a iptv pc that i have hacked it and i installing ubuntu inside
[01:23] <gogeta1> Spy_o: do you mean s-video to rca
[01:24] <Spy_o> no rca to rca
[01:24] <n00bnix> yagoo: I'm going to try out the tools on the Pmagic liveCD once I turn it into a bootable USB with syslinux, and if I have no luck with that, I'm going to give up and reformat the drive with GUID instead of MBR or something, and most likely switch from Ubuntu to gNewSense as a base and then install whatever else I need on top of that.
[01:24] <gogeta1> Spy_o: its probly a s-video to rcca conversion done internerly
[01:24] <Spy_o> is mini pc for home cinema
[01:24] <gogeta1> Spy_o: you should be able to go to 800x600
[01:25] <gogeta1> Spy_o: you may have to add the rez mode manuly to the xorg.conf
[01:25] <Spy_o> gogetal yes i do that
[01:25] <Spy_o> but at 800x600
[01:25] <gogeta1> Spy_o: then in a term type xrander
[01:25] <Spy_o> yes
[01:25] <n00bnix> the drive better not be dead or dying, it's barely 6 months old.  Seagate used to be good.
[01:25] <gogeta1> Spy_o: did it go to 600x600
[01:25] <gogeta1> 800
[01:26] <k56731> s-video to rca: http://www.richieri.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/s-video-rca.jpg
[01:26] <n00bnix> the 1TB I'm using at the moment is WD though
[01:26] <tilerendering> if I have a ssh key for machine a to access machine b, and i want to use the same key that I use for machine on machine c (to connect from c to b), what do I need to do to "transfer" this key between a and c so that it will work on b ?
[01:26] <Ibyss> I'll be right back.
[01:26] <yagoo> n00bnix, don't buy oem.. they're cheap..
[01:27] <gogeta1> Spy_o: or try giving crander the mode xrander 800x600
[01:27] <gogeta1> xrander
[01:27] <n00bnix> I don't know, I wanted something like a Quantum, they were always good, but I can't even find anywhere selling them. Are Quantum even still in business?
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> n00bnix: grab seagate 7200.12 and you are gold
[01:28] <Spy_o> gogetal xrandr?
[01:28] <gogeta1> Spy_o: yea
[01:29] <n00bnix> ActionParsnip:  I swore I would never buy anything from Seagate again after the 1.5TB drive died within 2 months.
[01:29] <sebsebseb>
[01:29] <gogeta1> n00bnix: they would have replaced that for free
[01:29] <Ibyss> Thanks ActionParsnip, it worked. :D
[01:29] <yagoo> n00bnix, i refuse to buy new technology due to events like this.. I avoid any TB drives.. maximum i go is 500gb..
[01:30] <Spy_o> gogetal what must i do now
[01:30] <smt-mobil> hmm my server is running with a 8 year old seagate hd
[01:30] <gogeta1> n00bnix: they warrenty them for 5 years
[01:30] <Spy_o> ?
[01:30] <realcooluser> n00bnix: was this a 7200 RPM drive or the 5900?
[01:30] <n00bnix> realcooluser: 7200
[01:30] <gogeta1> Spy_o: well if it switched to 800x600 not a thing
[01:30] <Sir_Konrad> ok so I want to install Adobe AIR 2.5 and Package Manager refuses to install because I'm x86_64 and it's an i386 package. What do I do to work around?
[01:30] <realcooluser> n00bnix: I remember hearing about all sorts of issues with the 7200.  I think they finally got them sorted out, but I own 4 of the 5900 rpm, 0 issue, 0 bad sector :)
[01:30] <Ibyss> Lol, TB harddrives are just crazy.
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> n00bnix: what model was it?
[01:31] <CanadianPirate> Does anyone here know a ppa for gnome-shell 2.91
[01:31] <gogeta1> Spy_o: ubuntu uses auto configs for x if its not letting you use the hire rez you may have to genrate a xorg.conf to override the auto settings to add the rez by hand
[01:31] <n00bnix> hold on, I'll dig up the model number
[01:31] <Spy_o> gogetal i do it
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Konrad: you can install i32-libs
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Konrad: and install 32bit packages
[01:32] <yagoo> (ia32-libs)
[01:32] <Spy_o> gogetal i have to put the rez in screen section?
[01:32] <gogeta1> Spy_o: with the other rez modes yes
[01:32] <Scunizi> If you enable java tracing and logging where are the files stored?
[01:32] <Sir_Konrad> ActionParsnip, if I install the ia32-libs then Package Manager will happily handle them?
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Konrad: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/408/kb408084.html
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Konrad: a quick bingsearch brought up that
[01:32] <gogeta1> Spy_o: you will to restart x for it to take efect
[01:33] <Sir_Konrad> ActionParsnip, thanks. :)
[01:33] <gogeta1> Spy_o: then you should be able to use xrandr to change it
[01:33] <yagoo> ActionParsnip, bing is microsoft's search engine... google.com/linux is way better
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> yagoo: yes..
[01:33] <Spy_o> i do a reboot
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> yagoo: they are equal, i use both google and bing
[01:34] <Spy_o> i have been connecting to this machine via ssh and vnc
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> yagoo: if one was outright better, nobody would use the other and it would soon wither and die
[01:34] <n00bnix> ActionParsnip: it was the ST31500341AS
[01:34] <Ibyss> Ewwww @ bing. I only use google. xD
[01:35] <yagoo> ActionParsnip, well google is behind help opensource and hosting googlesummer projects.. they(google) are really helping the oss community.. microsoft isn't. :p
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Ibyss: you are missing out, different search methods yield different results
[01:35] <n00bnix> lol, they're both evil. M$ *and* Google
[01:35] <smt-mobil> right n00bnix
[01:36] <vdubhack> whats the proper way to set extra kernel args in grub for 10.10? there is no menu.lst on grub2
[01:36] <n00bnix> Google are just slightly better at hiding it
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> yagoo: i dont care about that, i search with both to meet my ends
[01:36] <Ray2> How to open visudo in nano
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> vdubhack: add them in /etc/default/grub  in the quotes next to: quiet splash   save the new file and run: sudo update-grub
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> !visudo | ray2
[01:37] <vdubhack> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> Ray2: i think you need to run:  export EDITOR=nano
[01:37] <n00bnix> well, I'm outta here for now
[01:38] <Spy_o> gogetal i put rez in xorg.conf but with xrandr -q doesnt exists
[01:38] <n00bnix> so long and thanks for all the fish, good luck with your projects, etc.
[01:38] <SRoss> good evening all
[01:39] <ghostnik11> okay so i have dual booted windows xp and lubuntu 10.10 set up and after updating through the update manager i have suddenly lost the option to boot windows xp from grub
[01:39] <tilerendering> if I have a ssh key for machine a to access machine b, and i want to use the same key that I use for machine on machine c (to connect from c to b), what do I need to do to "transfer" this key between a and c so that it will work on b ?
[01:40] <n00bnix> ghostnik11: sounds like an upgrade to me
[01:40] <SRoss> So I've got a friend that's trying to solve a 'kid needs a computer' problem. I'm suggesting Ubuntu on a free PC I have. I have 2 q's: 1. Is connection w/ an iPod 'stupid-proof' at this point, and 2. what internet filtering options are there on the install of Ubuntu (keeping porn etc. from being accessed)
[01:40] <Ibyss> Gosh, I wish there was a non-KDE version of Konversation. Lol.
[01:40] <n00bnix> Ibyss: but "Gonversation" sounds silly.
[01:40] <SRoss> I'm also wondering if anyone in here has put 10.10 on a ~3GHz P4 era machine
[01:40] <porjo> using gnome-terminal, is it possible to have a background picture *without* transparency through to the windows/desktop behind?
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> SRoss: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[01:41] <connermcd> porjo I'm not sure what you're asking
[01:41] <ghostnik11> n000nix: what do you mean, i am running lubuntu 10.10
[01:41] <n00bnix> porjo: Yes, edit the profiles
[01:41] <n00bnix> ghostnik11: I was joking, implying that being unable to select Windows at the boot menu is better than being able to.
[01:41] <SRoss> ActionParsnip: I had seen that, but was mainly wondering if there were many practical 'gotcha' issues...I don't have an iPod
[01:42] <SRoss> ActionParsnip: thanks though
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> SRoss: me neither, they are garbage
[01:42] <porjo> n00bnix: yeah, I've played around with profile settings...but I must be missing the obvious :(
[01:42] <ghostnik11> n00bnix: oh, lol well your right but the thing is i need to get into windows to run this program named power strip so i can get correct resolution settings as my computer won't let me get 1024x768
[01:43] <SRoss> ActionParsnip: any idea if 10.10 will choke on a 3GHz P4? I mostly use Ubuntu on the server side
[01:43] <kermit> where do i set environment variables for export into X and apps running under X?
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> SRoss: lucid and later are supposed to be super ipod friendly
[01:43] <SRoss> ActionParsnip: sweet
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> SRoss: it'll fly, thats more CPU power than all my computers together
[01:43] <ghostnik11> n00bnix: i am using a sony bravia 27 inch lcd and the gamma settings can't be found when i use xrandr
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> kermit: if you mean X forwarding then its default in openssh-server
[01:44] <n00bnix> SRoss: I use a 3GHZ P4, and it usually runs 10.10, when the filesystem isn't corrupted, or the system hanging because nvidia-96 doesn't work with the new X.org
[01:44] <smt-mobil> no problems with 10.04 on 3ghz p4 so 10.10 might work fine too SRoss
[01:44] <SRoss> great, well, now I need to burn a CD for this coworker and get KVM kicking on 10.04
[01:44] <SRoss> n00bnix: lol
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> SRoss: remember to MD5 test the ISO before  burning, and burn slow
[01:44] <SRoss> oh yeah, I've been there
[01:44] <kermit> ActionParsnip: no
[01:44] <porjo> connermcd: I'd like to have a background image visible behind the text in my terminal window. I've tried setting a background image, however it is only visible when I increase transparency and that has the side-effect of showing windows beneath the terminal (which I don't want)
[01:44]  * n00bnix sighs
[01:45] <SRoss> it was horrid back in the TurboLinux days....that 33.6k download took *forever*
[01:45] <n00bnix> SRoss: Yeah, if you were connected at 300 baud!
[01:45] <PJSingh5000> ghostnik11: did you get your windows boot option back?
[01:45] <yagoo> n00bnix, i think you're worst than a clueless newbie.. you keep insisting X isn't good, and that ubuntu is very corrupt.. however you point out about failed drives after 2 months and that this one may be corrupt as well.. If your HD is bad this isn't ubuntu's fault.
[01:45] <LadySerena> okay, Xubuntu is all set up on my customer's machine .......... just one issue for me - it doesn't turn itself off after shutdown
[01:45] <Kuwanger> Is there a way to validate all the from-packages files on an Ubuntu system?  Ie, to get a list of file hashes based on the packages one has installed, hash all the files on the system listed, and then compare them to make sure they're all the same?
[01:46] <SRoss> LadySerena: that may be hardware dependent
[01:46] <CanadianPirate> Does anyone here know a ppa for gnome-shell 2.91
[01:46] <ghostnik11> pjsingh5000: nope reading up on editing grub menulist to get windows boot option back in forums right now
[01:46] <n00bnix> yagoo: What are the chances that 2 different drives, from different manufacturers, of different capacity, are dying for no apparent reason?  I would search around on the forums for people w/ similar hardware and their ACPI stuff
[01:46] <LadySerena> it performed ACPI Power-Off with the gparted and dban CDs
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> Kuwanger: you could write a script to MD5 test every file on teh partition
[01:46] <tilerendering> ok another question: is a ssh key server-AND-client-machine-specific ? or can I use the same ssh key on another machine to connect to the same server
[01:46] <SRoss> xuekan: CSOnline ?!?
[01:47] <PJSingh5000> Ubuntu uses grub2 now, and I only have experience wit hthe previous version of grub.
[01:47] <Kuwanger> ActionParsnip: Yes, but how would I get a hash list for all files in all packages that are installed?
[01:47] <xuekan> SRoss:yeah, a game.
[01:47] <SRoss> xuekan: lol, you're running CS inside of a VM?
[01:47] <n00bnix> haha
[01:47] <n00bnix> that's just... awesome
[01:47] <SRoss> hope you're using the latest release of workstation....
[01:48] <xuekan> no i was just installing it and it took me so much time.
[01:48] <PJSingh5000> ubottu: what is the URL with instructions to recover lost windows boot option in grub?
[01:48] <SRoss> xuekan: if you're not using vmware workstation, it will choke extremely horrid
[01:48] <LadySerena> all I know of this machine's hardware .... Intel Celeron 2.7GHz single-core, 236MB memory
[01:48] <connermcd> porjo try this http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/08/27/transparent-terminal-on-your-desktop/
[01:48] <Licuadora> Is there a way to copy all programs that I downloaded to a USB memory card, i am planning to re install Ubuntu, but i dont want to download ALL of the programs again from the net
[01:48] <n00bnix> connermcd: the problem is porjo doesn't want transparency
[01:48] <SRoss> xuekan: and honestly, the GPU support in the latest WS release is from a practical standpoint experimental
[01:48] <xuekan> SRoss:i am using vmware workstation.
[01:49] <connermcd> n00bnix yes, I understand... seems like I recall it working that way without compiz
[01:49] <dli> Licuadora, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[01:49] <n00bnix> connermcd: I think you're right.
[01:49] <xuekan> SRoss,totally have no idea why it is so slow when running this.but thank you all the same.
[01:50] <Licuadora> dli: So, can I just drag and drop?
[01:50] <SRoss> xuekan: is your host *nix?
[01:50] <connermcd> n00bnix so if you follow that guide... looks like it tells you to make a terminal profile with a certain name then escape that title type in window decorations
[01:51] <n00bnix> probably, but porjo needs to know this more than I
[01:51] <connermcd> n00bnix porjo well I sent him the link
[01:51] <SRoss> xuekan: the main performance inhibitor in WS vm's is usually a vmware tools issue
[01:51] <n00bnix> well, I'm going to go make another live USB and give my ext4 partition one last try at recovery. good luck to everyone
[01:52] <porjo> connermcd: thanks, I'll take a look at that (I am using Compiz)
[01:52] <ghostnik11> pjsingh5000: i see grub.cfg file but when i check it i don't see a section with windows xp and i don't know what to enter to get the option back as i can manually edit it in leafpad
[01:52] <dli> ghostnik11, can you run: sudo upgrade-grub
[01:52] <semitones> does ubuntu have any good games that use a game controller? (please don't tell me to browse the games list - looking for personal recommendations)
[01:52] <PJSingh5000> ghostnik11: would you pase your grub.cfg file ?
[01:52] <ghostnik11> dli: will try that now
[01:52] <yagoo> semitones, pacman
[01:53] <dli> ghostnik11,  sorry update-grub
[01:53] <semitones> oooh :)
[01:53] <semitones> thanks
[01:53]  * LadySerena likes the way the Xubuntu team made the Xfce desktop very similar to the Gnome desktops I'm used to.
[01:53]  * yagoo declares pacman the best game of all time and still is
[01:54] <LadySerena> waka waka waka waka
[01:54] <Kuwanger> Ah, found what I was looking for I think in debsums.
[01:54] <yagoo> semitones, you want arcade? maybe you want to look into mame
[01:55] <semitones> yagoo, ok. I used to use emulators, but this laptop isn't as fast as other computers :P
[01:55] <yagoo> LadySerena, you using ipv6?
[01:55] <ghostnik11> dli: here is what i got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/523597/
[01:55] <LadySerena> on my iMac and my servers  :D
[01:55] <yagoo> semitones, mame is 1980's retro
[01:55] <ghostnik11> pjsingh5000: here is what i got when i ran update grub: http://paste.ubuntu.com/523597/
[01:56] <LadySerena> yagoo, any particular reason you ask?
[01:56] <yagoo> LadySerena, that's cool.. looks like you have an advanced isp.. where's this ipv6 linking from, europe?
[01:56] <LadySerena> lawl
[01:56] <dli> ghostnik11, so, it finds no windows
[01:56] <LadySerena> my ISP doesn't do IPv6
[01:56] <PJSingh5000> ghostnik11: didn't find your Windows hugh? :(
[01:56] <yagoo> LadySerena, cuse it's really not deployed here in n.america..
[01:56] <ghostnik11> pjsingh5000: i will have to get the screen shot app to take a pic of grub.cfg
[01:56] <semitones> yagoo, is it emulation, or are they native games?
[01:56] <PJSingh5000> ghostnik11: ok
[01:56] <yagoo> ghostnik11, xpm/etc format
[01:56] <LadySerena> I have IPv6 through a tunnel broker, AT&T U-verse is way behind the times
[01:57] <yagoo> semitones, emulation.. i believe you wanted to test your joystick.. this isn't really #ubuntu related..
[01:58] <yagoo> LadySerena, i'm guessing that's what your company uses
[01:58] <ghostnik11> yagoa: xpm/etc format, what is that
[01:58] <MindVirus> Can someone help with drums on Timidity?
[01:58] <yagoo> ghostnik11, whatever pic format grub supports..
[01:58] <ghostnik11> yagoa: i don't understand
[01:59] <yagoo> ghostnik11, nmind i picked up the wrong cue about "pics".. nobody really does a picture of text.. it's simpler to copy&paste
[01:59] <PJSingh5000> ghostnik11: couldn't you just cut/paste your grub.cfg file ?
[01:59]  * yagoo (cat grub.cfg |xclip) then middle-mouse button to paste at the pastesite
[01:59] <semitones> yagoo, I was wondering if there were other good games on ubuntu that use nintendo-type usb controllers (like supertux maybe -- idk if it supports controllers)
[02:00] <ghostnik11> yagoa: i was saying i need the application in ubuntu that does the take a screenshot of the desktop so i could send the pic to pastebin for you guys to see if you could help me fix grub
[02:00] <ghostnik11> pjsingh5000: yeah i could do that if you want
[02:00] <ZykoticK9> !pastebinit | ghostnik11
[02:00] <yagoo> ghostnik11, well u can use gksudo gedit /pathtogrubcfg .. then that would be easier to copy&paste
[02:00] <ghostnik11> pjsingh5000: i thought the screenshot pic would be easier
[02:01] <abstrakt> MindVirus, really you should just use Hydrogen instead of timidity if you want drums
[02:01] <MindVirus> abstrakt: I tried using Hydrogen.
[02:01] <abstrakt> MindVirus, and?
[02:01] <MindVirus> It is not playing anything at all.
[02:01] <PJSingh5000> ghostnik11: just post yor grub contents; I don't think we need a picture, unless I'm missing something.  Follow yagoo's suggestion.
[02:01] <MindVirus> It sees my MIDI input.
[02:01] <abstrakt> mindlesstux, do you understand what JACK is?
[02:01] <MindVirus> I even set my drums to match with what Hydrogen wants.
[02:01] <abstrakt> scrap
[02:01] <abstrakt> MindVirus, do you understand what JACK is?
[02:02] <MindVirus> Yes.
[02:02] <ghostnik11> pjsingh5000: here you guys go sorry for complicating it, http://paste.ubuntu.com/523598/
[02:02] <abstrakt> MindVirus, well Hydrogen uses JACK by default, I'm not sure if you can set it to use ALSA, probably, but really it was meant for JACK, so you need to start JACK first
[02:02] <MindVirus> Fine.
[02:03] <abstrakt> MindVirus, try just getting hydrogen to sequence some drum beats without using an external MIDI controller, just get the sounds to come out
[02:03] <abstrakt> MindVirus, hydrogen rocks, I use it quite often
[02:03] <MindVirus> abstrakt: I know Hydrogen, and I like it.
[02:03] <MindVirus> And it makes sounds.
[02:03] <MindVirus> But it doesn't match my hits to any of the drums.
[02:03] <NightDragon> ello
[02:03] <abstrakt> MindVirus, have you connected your MIDI controller (midi keyboard) to Hydrogen yet?
[02:04] <abstrakt> MindVirus, open up qjackctl, you don't actually need to start jack to route MIDI signals
[02:04] <NightDragon> anywho, who feels like answering a fun bootup question
[02:04] <MindVirus> abstrakt: I would assume so. The MIDI LED is blinking when I hit shit.
[02:04] <NightDragon> I want to boot to shell when i start up my server.
[02:04] <abstrakt> MindVirus, MIDI LED on what
[02:04] <MindVirus> abstrakt: Hydrogen.
[02:04] <NightDragon> problem is, i apt-get installed ubuntu-desktop
[02:04] <MindVirus> It says "MIDI-IN".
[02:04] <NightDragon> so it boots to gnome
[02:04] <bonhoffer> i want to wget a file and unzip it in one line should i do unzip `wget http://foo/foo.zip`
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> NightDragon: thats default with the server install
[02:04] <NightDragon> i know its something you set in grub, does anyone remember what it is?
[02:04] <abstrakt> MindVirus, you sure your keyboard is on the right channel?
[02:04] <ghostnik11> windows xp is located at /dev/sda1 when i check via disk utility
[02:04] <bonhoffer> or something like wget http://foo/foo.zip | unzip
[02:04] <glick> hey i have a multi function printer, i have the printer driver installed, but gscan2pdf doesnt see the scanner
[02:04] <MindVirus> abstrakt: 10.
[02:04] <MindVirus> abstrakt: It's not really a keyboard.
[02:05] <abstrakt> MindVirus, whatever, your controller
[02:05] <glick> what do i have to do so applications can see the scanner
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> NightDragon: server doesnt ship with a DE so a terminal login is default
[02:05] <abstrakt> MindVirus, it should probably be channel 1, at least that's what I would do
[02:05] <ghostnik11> pjsingh5000: it is located at /dev/sda1 when i check via disk utility
[02:05] <MindVirus> abstrakt: Yes. What channel should it be on? AFAIK Hydrogen picks up from any channel. Channel 10 is default for drums in the General MIDI standard.
[02:05] <NightDragon> ActionParsnip: I ran 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[02:05] <MindVirus> You say 1?
[02:05] <NightDragon> when you do that, it automatically installs gnome and sets the system to boot into x11
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> NightDragon: then why didn't you install the desktop environment if you wanted a desktop OS?
[02:05] <NightDragon> i dont remember how you disable this, but you can
[02:05] <abstrakt> MindVirus, yeah it should be able to be any channel probably, but I usually just stick to channel 1 unless I have some specific need
[02:06] <abstrakt> MindVirus, and hydrogen isn't exactly a "general midi" machine, not specifically anyway
[02:06] <NightDragon> i dont want a desktop OS, i want a server that can boot to GNOME if i need it to
[02:06] <aguitel> when my system boot i do not see the kernel list to choose ,how i fix this ?
[02:06] <bonhoffer> i want to wget a file and unzip it in one line should i do unzip `wget http://foo/foo.zip`
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> not desktop environment, desktop ISO
[02:06] <bonhoffer> or something like wget http://foo/foo.zip | unzip
[02:06] <MindVirus> abstrakt: "General MIDI" is a specification.
[02:06] <abstrakt> MindVirus, so thinking about "what channel to be on for general midi drums" won't necessarily apply with hydrogen
[02:06] <MindVirus> OK.
[02:06] <NightDragon> so the question is -- how do i disable graphical boot in ubuntu?
[02:06] <abstrakt> NightDragon, disable gdm?
[02:07] <abstrakt> NightDragon, dpkg --reconfigure gdm maybe?
[02:07] <NightDragon> yes more or less... i know its something in bash
[02:07] <abstrakt> NightDragon, something like that probably
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: you can use: cd ~; wget http://foo/bar.zip; unzip bar.zip
[02:07] <MindVirus> abstrakt: On channel 1, the MIDI-IN light is still blinking but still no drums are played.
[02:07] <abstrakt> NightDragon, maybe set your runlevel? although I think setting runlevels is outdated these days
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> NightDragon: add the boot option: text
[02:07] <bonhoffer> ActionParsnip: o.k. so i type it on two lines still
[02:07] <abstrakt> MindVirus, well so then I would question whether the controller you're using is triggering the appropriate MIDI notes
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: the guys in #bash may know something smoother
[02:07] <abstrakt> MindVirus, do you have a regular keyboard? I don't personally quite remember how to check what notes which drums are assigned to
[02:08] <MindVirus> abstrakt: Right! I don't know what notes, instruments, velocities, or channels I should use.
[02:08] <bonhoffer> ActionParsnip: great point
[02:08] <abstrakt> MindVirus, but if your controller pads are triggering C4-C5 and hydrogen's sounds are on C2-C3, it's not gonna work
[02:08] <MindVirus> abstrakt: I can use any note.
[02:08] <MindVirus> I just don't know which.
[02:08] <MindVirus> I am fairly certain I should start with 24, as that's what eHow says.
[02:08] <abstrakt> MindVirus, well first of all I would try to find out from the MIDI controller's manual how to program which notes the pads play
[02:08] <MindVirus> 24 is C1, which is the first note.
[02:09] <abstrakt> k, sure
[02:09] <NightDragon> ActionParsnip: where do i add the boot option text
[02:09] <MindVirus> abstrakt: I am the programmer.
[02:09] <abstrakt> MindVirus, ok cool
[02:09] <MindVirus> abstrakt: I made the MIDI controller.
[02:09] <MindVirus> It's software in my computer.
[02:09] <abstrakt> MindVirus, well yeah I dunno, I just plug in a MIDI keyboard and it works for me
[02:09] <MindVirus> I'm glad. Mine doesn't work.
[02:09] <MindVirus> It is acknowledging MIDI events but not accepting them.
[02:09] <abstrakt> MindVirus, do you have a regular "piano" style external MIDI controller you can try?
[02:09] <MindVirus> No.
[02:10] <abstrakt> hmm, yeah, tough situation then
[02:10] <MindVirus> But what I can tell you is that when I route through Timidity, it plays correctly, but it plays piano notes.
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> NightDragon: in the quotes next to: quiet splash . If you wanted a desktop OS, why didn't you install the desktop ISO?
[02:11] <PJSingh5000> ghostnik11: Try $ sudo apt-get install os-prober        Then try $ sudo upgrade-grub  again.
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> MindVirus: can you not change the default instrument?
[02:11] <NightDragon> ActionParsnip: i did not want a desktop OS. i wanted a server that i could boot gnome into if i needed to. What file contains that stuff that you just said?
[02:11] <MindVirus> ActionParsnip: I can change instruments.
[02:11] <MindVirus> Setting it on 127 makes these crazy woosh noises.
[02:12] <gogeta> NightDragon: then just install gnome
[02:12] <MindVirus> But the drum MIDI interface is not an "instrument".
[02:12] <databits> hello everyone
[02:12] <MindVirus> It's a channel.
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> NightDragon: /etc/default/grub
[02:12] <MindVirus> Each note in the channel is a different instrument.
[02:12] <MindVirus> And setting the instrument does nothing.
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> NightDragon: you can use the desktop OS as a server, theres no limitation saying you cannot use a desktop OS as a server
[02:13] <ghostnik11> pjsingh5000: got it, thanks will go install powerstrip right away and get resolution settings be back in a few
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> NightDragon: the whole idea of the server release is to NOT have an X server to not only use fewer resources but to also make it more secure due to fewer services running on it, installing a DE on it completely negates this
[02:13] <gogeta> NightDragon: very true server is just softwhere
[02:14] <databits> I am having some issues with some permissions.  I was wondering if someone could help me out
[02:14] <serard> Re
[02:14] <databits> I just got apache, and vsftpd setup
[02:14] <databits> I have it setup so I can upload my files to the website directory
[02:14] <serard> Does someone can make calls using his cellphone via bluetooth ?
[02:14] <MindVirus> ActionParsnip, abstrakt: Any ideas?
[02:14] <databits> but all the files that I am uploading threw ftp, are receiving the ownership of the logged on user through ftp
[02:15] <gogeta> NightDragon: genrely server ubuntu is istalled on systems without displays or fans of not having a gui
[02:15] <jelso> Hey guys, I'm testing new RAM with memtest86+... Can anybody tell me why memtest86+, on the left side, says I have 3838M but I have 4GB=4092M, which is recognized by my computer's BIOS
[02:15] <databits> how would I go about setting it up so all the files written to the /var/www directory receive a global ownership
[02:15] <databits> ?
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> MindVirus: not something I use dude, sorry
[02:15] <mooly> databits: chown ugo+rwx /var/www
[02:16] <EagleScreen> hello, I ma interested in packages in this repository: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.36-maverick/
[02:16] <gogeta> jelso: if you got shared video it will tkae some system ram
[02:16] <AudioTeknikk> i have a fresh copy of ubuntu 10.04... last time i installed it from the same cd the wireless networking was all good. now it does not recogize any networks.. when i try to connect through hidden networks the wireless is disabled and greyed out.. so im not able to enable it again... anyone got a clue here?
[02:16] <gogeta> take
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> jelso: do you use an onboard video chaip
[02:16] <EagleScreen> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.36-maverick/  is there a way to add that repository to apt?
[02:16] <maelaian> Howdy. Im trying to setup an internet gateway on my local network 192.168.10.X. My router has two interfaces eth0 and eth1 at <IP_ADDRESS> and .72 respectively. eth0 is set so its gateway is the real gateway <IP_ADDRESS>. I want to use <IP_ADDRESS> as a gateway on all the other boxes on the local network. I had it working before reboot. Im using http://pastebin.com/kQWrdf6M as my script.
[02:16] <databits> thanks mooly
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> AudioTeknikk: run: sudo lshw -C network; rfkill list
[02:16] <j3rg> anyone about debugging andriod wifi issue
[02:16] <j3rg> ?
[02:16] <AudioTeknikk> thanks will try that :)
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> j3rg: is this related to Ubuntu?
[02:17] <jelso> ActionParsnip: hmmm I thought I had ATI Radeon HD
[02:17] <j3rg> no but there is no andriod channel
[02:17] <jelso> ActionParsnip: I will check
[02:17] <abstrakt> MindVirus, nope sorry I'm all out of ideas
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> AudioTeknikk: it will tell you the wireless chip as well as if its disabled in software or hardware
[02:18] <j3rg> ActionParsnip: well i'll go ask on the andriod forums
[02:18] <j3rg> exit
[02:18] <j3rg> exit
[02:18] <j3rg> lol
[02:18] <gogeta> jelso: ati radeon hd come in shared and dedcated
[02:18] <FloodBot4> j3rg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> j3rg: this is ubuntu support ONLY
[02:18] <j3rg> damn thought i was in the terminal
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> j3rg: the command you need is /exit
[02:19] <Cheri703> j3rg: try #androidforums
[02:19] <gogeta> jelso: if it came with your pc irs probly a shaed
[02:19] <ProfessorBacon> can someone help me install ubuntu onto my microwave?
[02:19] <Cheri703> it's often slow, but people are there sometimes
[02:19] <gogeta> shared
[02:19] <aguitel> when my system boot i do not see the kernel list to choose ,how i fix this ?
[02:19] <j3rg> Cheri703: thanks
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> ProfessorBacon: what cpu does it have?
[02:20] <jelso> gogeta: I will check but that's probably it; occam's razor and all ... TYVM
[02:20] <fredfredfredfred> the hostname for my compouter is debian.kakio .according to etc/hosts the ip for that hostname is <IP_ADDRESS> . but when i do dnsip/dnsname for debian.kakio or <IP_ADDRESS>, nothing shows up. why?
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> fredfredfredfred: are you using nslookup?
[02:21] <fredfredfredfred> ActionParsnip: no idea :D im quite new on dns
[02:21] <jelso> gogeta: yep... that's it. my notebook's ATI Radeon HD 3200 uses shared memory. thanks for your help =)
[02:21] <AudioTeknikk> ActionParsnip: what to look for after lshw..... ;rfkill list?
[02:21] <fredfredfredfred> ActionParsnip: please do expand if you have any ideas on what i should be doing
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> fredfredfredfred: try: nslookup  debian.kakio
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> AudioTeknikk: make sure the devices aren't softblocked or hardblocked
[02:22] <nimbiotics> Hello all. In 10.04, I know I can "see" the list of installed software by going to Ubuntu Software Center -> Installed Software but ... Is there a way to get a list of this software? something I can manipulate and print for example? TIA!
[02:22] <steev_> fredfredfredfred, <IP_ADDRESS> is just a pseudo ip address, it isn't resolvable, it's just a different way to write localhost
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> AudioTeknikk: you can also search for the product line to find guides
[02:22] <AudioTeknikk> it is not
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> fredfredfredfred: what is the output of: lsb-release -c   ?
[02:23] <AudioTeknikk> last time i installed it worked just fine out of the box/ fresh install. now using same cd.. fresh install???
[02:23] <fredfredfredfred> ActionParsnip:
[02:23] <maelaian> Anyone know much about setting up a network gateway?
[02:23] <fredfredfredfred> server: (ip)
[02:23] <fredfredfredfred> address: (ip)
[02:23] <fredfredfredfred>  **server cant find debian.kako NXDOMAIN
[02:23] <fredfredfredfred> whop sorry for pasting
[02:23] <FloodBot4> fredfredfredfred: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> fredfredfredfred: what is the output of: lsb-release -c   ?
[02:24] <steev_> fredfredfredfred, debian.kako isn't a valid domain name, the only way it will resolve properly is if your dns server on your network supports it
[02:25] <fredfredfredfred> ActionParsnip: command not found
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> fredfredfredfred: `sorry: lsb_release -c    thanks
[02:25] <fredfredfredfred> steev_: i see. so i need to add debian.kakio into my bind or tinydns then?
[02:25] <fredfredfredfred> ActionParsnip: Lenny
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> fredfredfredfred: This is Ubunu support ONLY. Debian is supported in #debian
[02:26] <fredfredfredfred> well sorry i just thought this was kind of a cross OS issue
[02:26] <steev_> fredfredfredfred, correct, whatever you are running as a dns server needs to know that it is .kakio
[02:26] <fredfredfredfred> im running this debian in a virtual machine inside ubuntu, does that count, lol
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> fredfredfredfred: your distribution has it's own channel
[02:27] <fredfredfredfred> steev_: OK i can add debian.kakio into my DNS then but i dont know what ip to point to if so
[02:27] <Drectic> How much merch have you sold?
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> !ot | Drectic
[02:28] <Drectic> sorry wrong channel
[02:28] <steev_> fredfredfredfred, sorry, i can't go past that, i'm on ubuntu at the moment, but i'm a gentoo kinda guy
[02:29] <shadow98> how can i setup csync2 to run in the background
[02:29] <fredfredfredfred> ActionParsnip: ok regardless of what dist im on, im doing this on ubuntu too but im testing it in a virtual machine first... if i want to add my hostname and an ip to point to it into my DNS, what IP should i point to then? if not <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:29] <shadow98> i can execute this command csync2 -xv and everything works..however I need to to constantly be running as a service checking for files to csync
[02:30] <maineac> is anyone here familar with cherokee?
[02:31] <donel> hola
[02:31] <donel> hola chikoss
[02:32] <donel> de donde eres
[02:32] <donel> ?
[02:32] <donel> yo soy de mi ksa y tu?
[02:32] <izinucs> donel: english here
[02:32] <donel>  oyeee
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> fredfredfredfred: no not regardless of distribution, debian isn't supported here
[02:32] <donel> caytuu pekii jususus
[02:32] <donel> ??
[02:32] <Termana> !english donel
[02:32] <Termana> !english | donel
[02:32] <izinucs> !es | donel
[02:32] <donel> hii jaja im just kidding
[02:32] <maineac> que pasa english?
[02:32] <donel> well im new in ubuntu!!
[02:33] <izinucs> right.....
[02:33] <donel> im getting trouble to get some apps
[02:33] <makaveli0129> while trying to mount my flash driver i get mount: only root can mount /dev/sdc on /media/sc any idea?
[02:34] <fredfredfredfred> ActionParsnip: i understand. But like I said, its just a matter of a virtual machine inside my ubuntu. I want to do the exact same operation on my ubuntu system as well. the hostname on my ubuntu system is fred-laptop.kakio . I have a dns on my ubuntu too. If I want to add a dns entry for my hostname in DNS, what ip should i be pointing to then if not <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:34] <izinucs> makaveli0129: you mount with sudo in the front
[02:34] <makaveli0129>  izinucs: i'm trying to use gparted
[02:34] <makaveli0129> to format it
[02:34] <izinucs> makaveli0129: then you don't want to mount it.. you can't format it while mounted
[02:34] <jgcampbell300> !grub
[02:34] <makaveli0129>  izinucs: it won't let me even change the permission so i can write to the flash drive from a normal user
[02:35] <makaveli0129>  izinucs: if i unmount it and then try to format i get another error
[02:35] <jgcampbell300> !grub2
[02:35] <izinucs> makaveli0129: so the flash drive is on /dev/sdc?
[02:35] <maelaian> Im trying to setup an internet gateway on my local network 192.168.10.X. My router has two interfaces eth0 and eth1 at <IP_ADDRESS> and .72 respectively. eth0 is set so its gateway is the real gateway <IP_ADDRESS>. I want to use <IP_ADDRESS> as a gateway on all the other boxes on the local network. I had it working before reboot. Im using http://pastebin.com/kQWrdf6M. Is something missing?
[02:35] <makaveli0129> yea
[02:35] <makaveli0129>  izinucs: i tried chmod 777 /dev/sdc
[02:36] <kermit> where do i set environment variables to be exported into applations run from inside X?
[02:36] <makaveli0129>  izinucs: also tried chown and chgrp
[02:36] <izinucs> makaveli0129: have you tried .. sudo chown <your user name>:<your user name> /dev/sdc
[02:36] <mattviator> is there a unity channel or just the ot channel
[02:36] <izinucs> makaveli0129: is it plugged into a hub or direct to the computer?
[02:36] <makaveli0129> plugged direct
[02:37] <makaveli0129>  izinucs: if i sudo mount and then sudo cp i can copy stuff to and from it
[02:37] <makaveli0129> but i want to be able to do it with my normal user
[02:37] <jgcampbell300> can anyone tell me how to config grub2 ... i have two hard drives one with ubuntu one with windows ... i need to find a place to add the windows info into boot
[02:37] <izinucs> makaveli0129: did you do the chown command I mentioned.
[02:38] <makaveli0129>  izinucs: yep and it doesn't work
[02:38] <makaveli0129>  izinucs: no errors but it doesn't change anything
[02:38] <w30> when I upgraded to 10.10 I lost volume control in my tvtime application. I have volume control in tvtime via the desktop panel. Any ideas anyone?
[02:38] <izinucs> makaveli0129: what do you get when you .. ls -la /dev/sdc1
[02:39] <makaveli0129> izinucs: ls: cannot access /dev/sdc1: No such file or directory
[02:39] <makaveli0129> izinucs:  but it's not mounted yet
[02:39] <izinucs> makaveli0129: can you mount it?
[02:39] <izinucs> makaveli0129: then repeat
[02:39] <makaveli0129> izinucs:  same error
[02:40] <makaveli0129> izinucs: even with sudo
[02:40] <makaveli0129> izinucs:  how would i format from terminal?
[02:40] <makaveli0129> izinucs: since the disk utility is being dumb?
[02:40] <izinucs> makaveli0129: sorry I don't know that ..
[02:40] <izinucs> makaveli0129: do you know what file system type it currently has?
[02:41] <makaveli0129> izinucs:  fat
[02:41] <JackyChao> hello
[02:41] <makaveli0129> izinucs:  now the weird thing is that if i change it to ext4 works fine
[02:41] <databits> everytime I upload some files to my web directory threw ftp I have to keep updating the permissions because the ownership is set to that of the login for the ftp
[02:41] <JackyChao> anyone use fortran??
[02:41] <izinucs> makaveli0129: fat16 or 32?
[02:41] <databits> how would I go about setting the permissions up so they will stay static ?
[02:41] <jgcampbell300> hmm .. is there a config file i can change to make grub see my windows partition to boot it to ?
[02:42] <makaveli0129> izinucs: disk utility doesn't say so i'm going to assume 32
[02:42] <jgcampbell300> !dual boot
[02:42] <izinucs> makaveli0129: now how do you change it to ext4?  do the same process again to reformat it.
[02:42] <mattviator> how can you drag a link to the desktop or better to the launcher in UNE
[02:42] <JackyChao> intel fortran 11.1
[02:42] <makaveli0129> izinucs: i think what it was is there was no partition table on it
[02:43] <nullwire> what would cause my sound to randomly stop working? not caused by updates, it was just working fine this afternoon, and after coming back to my computer (still up) an hour later it's not working
[02:44] <makaveli0129> izinucs: still not working
[02:44] <izinucs> makaveli0129: sorry I don't know how to guide you from here.. someone else will hv to pickup the thread
[02:45] <jgcampbell300> sudo update-grub2 ... bye
[02:46] <hari__> hi
[02:46] <hari__> I have a question
[02:46] <hari__> can I install Kiba-dock on my 10.10
[02:46] <s|icer> ask it :P
[02:46] <izinucs> !dock
[02:46] <makaveli0129> izinucs: it worked just by creating a partition disk utility just formatted it but there was no partition table
[02:47] <makaveli0129> izinucs:  thanks for all the help tho!!!
[02:47] <izinucs> makaveli0129: you can't format without a partition table
[02:47] <AudioTeknikk> ActionParsnip: i have tried before and now still have no luck finding anything searchin for productline and ubuntu... i am really stuck here. got to have that wireless working.. i installed ubuntu on this laptop for my neighbour after trying out with live-cd and every thing worked. also after install first time.. then my neighbour did something that made me have to reinstall and now wireless...
[02:47] <AudioTeknikk> ...networks is gone... heeeeelp :)
[02:47] <hari__> can i??
[02:47] <makaveli0129> izinucs:  disk utility i guess allows you too which is why it was causing so many problems
[02:48] <makaveli0129> izinucs:  lol
[02:48] <hari__> can help me?
[02:48] <cjmaynar> hello - I've got an install of 10.04 server and I'd like to shrink my primary partition and creat a new one to hold all my multimedia - partioning drives kinda scares me
[02:48] <cjmaynar> is there an easy way to srink an ext4 parition?
[02:49] <AudioTeknikk> ActionParsnip gone too?
[02:49] <hari__> Can I install Kiba-dock on my ubuntu 10.10?
[02:49] <lantjie> hey guys
[02:50] <lantjie> long time no heard from
[02:50] <Snakkah> Hello. I was wondering if it's possible to do a minimal install of Ubuntu (just the OS without the GUI) and install a custom GUI on top of it?
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> AudioTeknikk: huh?
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> Snakkah: sure, there is a minimal iso
[02:50] <andrewh192> hey, anyone know anything about an error code having to do with glib opening
[02:50] <lantjie> yes snakkah
[02:50] <fredfredfredfred> Snakkah: you can install the server version and theen choose a GUI or you can install Xubuntu for the most minimal GUI
[02:50] <andrewh192> whenever i start up the computer
[02:50] <lantjie> snakkah: you must install the minal ubuntu cd
[02:51] <lantjie> snakkah: doenload it
[02:51] <Snakkah> Is the server pretty much the same as the desktop just without a GUI?
[02:51] <andrewh192> comes up with a little message like *******Warning****** Glib doesn't recognize your user id
[02:51] <Snakkah> Or would you recommend just going with the minimal?
[02:51] <andrewh192> userpswrd
[02:51] <andrewh192> something like that
[02:51] <fredfredfredfred> Snakkah: it has some stuff that the desktop doesnt obviously so maybe minimal is better
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> Snakkah: i'd go with minimal
[02:51] <Snakkah> Okay.
[02:51] <izinucs> Snakkah: yes sort of.. different kernel and startup processes.. but then you can put a gui on top if you want.
[02:52] <Snakkah> I'm just thinking of putting OpenBox on it instead of something heavy like GNOME or KDE.
[02:52] <fredfredfredfred> Snakkah: may one enquire as to why one wishes to choose any other gui than the eminent GNOME gui that comes with the ordinary ubuntu?
[02:52] <andrewh192> hey, anyone know anything about an error code having to do with glib opening
[02:52] <andrewh192> comes up with a little message like *******Warning****** Glib doesn't recognize your user id
[02:52] <Snakkah> I tried CrunchBang, but I want to do some things for myself.
[02:52] <izinucs> Snakkah: openbox is in the repos.. so that won't be an issue
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> Snakkah: yeah, minimal is great for that, get it installed, setup networking (wired makes this waaay easier) then install openbox and go make some food :)
[02:52] <fredfredfredfred> l337
[02:53] <hari__> Can I install Kiba- dock on my ubuntu 10.10?
[02:53] <Snakkah> Okay cool.
[02:53] <AudioTeknikk> ActionParsnip: you told me to search for the product line earlier.. having problems with wireless network
[02:53] <lantjie> hey guys i have a question: I was wondering if one of you have the book called (a begginer's guide to ethical hacking) to share ?
[02:53] <izinucs> hari__: probably but it's not in the repos..
[02:53] <rmozden> lantjie, Check your local barnes & nobles as they most likelty have it
[02:54] <Snakkah> Omg...
[02:54] <Snakkah> The minimal is only 12 MB. O_O
[02:54] <hari__> hmm ok
[02:55] <hari__> thx
[02:55] <lantjie> oke thanks for your help
[02:55] <rmozden> I need some assistance with installing some modules of a newer version of ipset since ubuntu is still on version 2.5 and the latest release is 4.4
[02:55] <lantjie> all of you here
[02:55] <JackyChao> hello
[02:55] <rmozden> module-assistant keeps erroring out when doing auto-install
[02:56] <dbdii407> I'm having a problem compiling clutk
[02:57] <dbdii407> something about ctk-perspective-correct-rendering.c and CoglColor
[02:57] <rmozden> So I grabbed the 4.4 source package and did a manual compile using the KERNEL_DIR=/usr/src/kernel-headers.....
[02:58] <Sayo> sup everyone. i have a super noobish question about mount points and seperate partitions through file manager. where i used to have an icon i clicked for my ntfs windows partition, when i now click it, it says "error creating mount point: no such file or directory". any help on how to manually repair this would be awesome! :D
[03:00] <jfcaron> I'm having trouble ripping an audio CD to mp3, following the usual instructions online is not working.  When I use sound juicer, the option to select mp3 is not present, even if the gnome audio profile exists.
[03:00] <AudioTeknikk> i ran: sudo lshw -C network; rfkill list.. nor soft or hard blocked. logical name: wlan0 , physical id: 0 , 0: phy0: Wireless lan , driver=ath5k broadcast=yes , muliticast=yes
[03:00] <trojan_spike> terminal command to logout any1 ?
[03:00] <rmozden> trojan_spike, exit
[03:00] <ubuntu> #limesurvey
[03:00] <trojan_spike> user log out
[03:01] <jfcaron> trojan_spike: "exit" to exit that terminal, or "sudo shutdown -h now" if you want to turn off the computer?
[03:01] <rooks> sayo what do you have at file /etc/fstab ? do /mnt/stuff paths mentioned there exist on /mnt directory?
[03:01] <trojan_spike> i know halt , reboot , but dont know logout
[03:01] <rmozden> trojan_spike, "sudo shutdown -fnr now" for a now reboot
[03:01] <rmozden> trojan_spike, If your just exiting a terminal or ssh session, exit works fine
[03:02] <AudioTeknikk> ActionParsnip: i ran: sudo lshw -C network; rfkill list.. nor soft or hard blocked. logical name: wlan0 , physical id: 0 , 0: phy0: Wireless lan , driver=ath5k broadcast=yes , muliticast=yes
[03:02] <izinucs> jfcaron: you may need to install lame or ubuntu-restricted-extras.. try the second one first.
[03:02] <Sayo> rooks: sayo@SATCOM:~$ file /etc/fstab
[03:02] <Sayo> /etc/fstab: ASCII English text
[03:02] <Sayo> that?
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> AudioTeknikk: you need the product line, probably ATH5001  or somesuch...
[03:02] <jfcaron> izinucs: afaik I have lame installed, and rhythmbox can play mp3s just fine.  Is ubuntu-restricted-extras a synaptic package?
[03:02] <izinucs> jfcaron: yes
[03:03] <rmozden> jfcaron, You will need the restricted packages to make mp3's
[03:03] <jfcaron> Ok, but I didn't need it to play them?
[03:03] <rmozden> jfcaron, correct
[03:03] <rmozden> jfcaron, biff difference in using a player that can decode them and creating one
[03:03] <Sayo> rooks: there's also nothing when i ls /mnt :O
[03:04] <AudioTeknikk> ActionParsnip thata is correct :)
[03:04] <rooks> sayo do cat /etc/fstab from terminal
[03:04] <rmozden> jfcaron, the restricted extras will give you all the other codecs as well to play other formats
[03:04] <rooks> sayo do "cat /etc/fstab" from terminal, without quotes, it will display contents
[03:04] <AudioTeknikk> sorry AR5001
[03:04] <rooks> of that file
[03:06] <rmozden> So I'm gonna be a bit of a compile noob here for a minute and ask what else do I need to do to make ipset 4.4 work as a kernel module under ubuntu 10.10 server now that I have done a make & make install using the KERNEL_SRC= directive
[03:06] <JackyChao> where can I find 32-bit libraries for intel fortran 11.1
[03:06] <Sayo> rooks: http://pastebin.com/EWUFCuVQ
[03:06] <JackyChao> anyone knows??
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> AudioTeknikk: wored for me: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/atheros_ar5007eg  needs madwifi compiling, keep the source handy as you will need to compile after each kernel upgrade
[03:07] <ghostnik11> how can some one post img in xchat
[03:07] <JackyChao> I search in google ,but I can't find it
[03:07] <rooks> sayo, hmm.. sucks, i thought it was hardcoded there :(
[03:07] <AudioTeknikk> not an option.. it is my neighbours computer.
[03:07] <ghostnik11> pastebin.ubuntu doesn't accept the file format
[03:09] <rmozden> So I'm gonna be a bit of a compile noob here for a minute and ask what else do I need to do to make ipset 4.4 work as a kernel module under ubuntu 10.10 server now that I have done a make & make install using the KERNEL_SRC= directive ???
[03:09] <Sayo> rooks: wait what....what's that meaannnnn :O
[03:09] <Sayo> rooks: did i accidently delete my windows partition or something?
[03:09] <MetaPhaze> rmozden, gcc - o exploit your0wned.c
[03:09] <Sayo> or at least damage it somehow to make it permenantly umountable :O
[03:09] <rooks> sayo, i thought the mount points, the directories where windows partition is attached to your system, were written in that fstab file
[03:10] <rooks> sayo, i dont think so :)
[03:10] <|XN|> anyone know a channel I should go to if I were looking to write a stateful web browser in javascript?
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> AudioTeknikk: there may be a package you can install to get the driver. Maybe installing linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick  (I assume maverick) will make it go, they may HAVE to do the compiles to get it working
[03:10] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, Wow, arent you helpful
[03:10] <rooks> sayo, what does command dmesg say, and what does 'tail -n 50 /var/log/messages" say?
[03:11] <AudioTeknikk> how do i get this
[03:11] <Sayo> rooks: well that's good. can you by any chance tell me rhetorically where my windows partition is, from where i am in the shell? is it like...sdb5 in /dev/
[03:11] <AudioTeknikk> i do not have i net on the laptop im trying to fix here
[03:11] <jfcaron> Thanks izinucs, the ubuntu-restricted-extras did the trick.
[03:11] <MetaPhaze> rmozden, are you being sarcastic?
[03:11] <ghostnik11> /home/ghostnik11/Desktop/PICT0459.JPG
[03:11] <Sayo> rooks: when i run dmesg it always outputs too much, is there a script or way to write it to a log file?
[03:12] <AudioTeknikk> but i do not get it... this worked fine in the first place.. then it stops
[03:12] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, No worse thenyou with the "gcc -o exploit yourOwned.c"  bit
[03:12] <jfcaron> Sayo: dmesg|less
[03:12] <izinucs> jfcaron: good to hear..
[03:12] <jfcaron> Or dmesg > tempfile && less tempfile
[03:12] <rooks> sayo, you can manually attach it, make a directory for it in /mnt, like "mkdir /mnt/win-test" and then "sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt/win-test" and see if it will appear in there
[03:12] <MetaPhaze> rmozden, I must have been mistaken I thought you wanted to hack the  Gibson?
[03:12] <Sayo> rooks: http://pastebin.com/i3N6pHsr
[03:12] <lyj> hi
[03:12] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, Nah, I just want ipset to work
[03:13] <lyj> Is it possible for root auto login?
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> AudioTeknikk: then move to where you can get a wired connection, its a laptop so it can move VERY easily
[03:13] <ghostnik11> pjsingh5000: so i got in xp and used powerstrip and found my max resolution i can go up to is 1600x1200 at 75hz/85hz
[03:13] <rooks> sayo, you can always reroute output with adding "> file"
[03:13] <rooks> to the command
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> lyj: not only is root disabled and not supported, the GDM is configured to reject root logins
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | lyj
[03:13] <MetaPhaze> rmozden, welcome to my world, looking for real support
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> lyj: so all in all, no. Plus its a really bad idea
[03:13] <lyj> But I want to auto login as root
[03:13] <MetaPhaze> rmozden, just venting on you, sorry
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> lyj: its not supported
[03:14] <MetaPhaze> lyj init config
[03:14] <lyj> I get it :)
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> lyj: root logins are a really dumb idea and enabling the account reduces system security greatly
[03:14] <lyj> It seems that fedora 12 can auto login using root
[03:14] <Sayo> rooks: i found it, sda2 is the drive
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> lyj: thats a different distro
[03:14] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, My prob is that using mudule-assistant to make the 2.5 module version of ipset pukes.  I can and have compiled the 4.4 version from source but it installed it to my user dir
[03:14] <MetaPhaze> lyj linux by default will support that feature, which is insecure
[03:14] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, No worries... I can take it as well as I can dish it too
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> lyj: thaey have different ideas of what a distro should do and not do
[03:15] <lyj> :) In some cases, I can contorl the security
[03:15] <Sayo> rooks: so dmesg > dmesg.log createst a log file to my home folder?
[03:15] <rmozden> Sayo, Yes
[03:15] <rooks> Sayo,  yes
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> lyj: you can do ANYTING in ubuntu using sudo and gksudo
[03:15] <MetaPhaze> lyj if your intersted research init config for root autologin
[03:15] <rmozden> Sayo, or any other screen outpuit you want in a file
[03:15] <Sayo> oh man soooo good to know thank you :D
[03:15] <AudioTeknikk> ActionParsnip: OK thanks ... but is there a .deb file for this backport thingy?
[03:16] <lyj> .... I just didn't want to type root when I login
[03:16] <MetaPhaze> ActionParsnip, I posted in Ubuntu forums lets see what happens '_
[03:16] <MetaPhaze> ;)
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> AudioTeknikk: i think its a metapackage, i suggest you get a wired connection, it'll be a tonne easier
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> AudioTeknikk: the updates may bring in the files you need
[03:16] <rmozden> lyj, you wouldnt type root anyway.  you would use your username and then sudo whatever you needed to do as root
[03:16] <lyj> ...OK
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> lyj: you shouldn't log in as root
[03:16] <MetaPhaze> lyj, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=528303
[03:16] <rooks> sayo, so try doing the following: make a directory for that parition in /mnt, like "sudo mkdir /mnt/win-test" and then "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/win-test" and see if it will appear in there in that direcotory
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> lyj: its a really dumb idea
[03:17] <Sayo> rooks: dmesg: http://pastebin.com/eJRPRzdi
[03:17] <MetaPhaze> he knows he shouldn't autologin as root
[03:17] <lyj> I know ubuntu can't do so
[03:17] <MetaPhaze> he is trying to hack something
[03:17] <apporc> hi
[03:17] <lyj> I just handle my own computer and want to auto login...
[03:17] <Sayo> rooks: it did
[03:17] <MetaPhaze> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=528303
[03:17] <lyj> So the risk can be controlled
[03:17] <|XN|> can't you passwd root password?
[03:17] <rooks> Sayo, sweet :)
[03:17] <apporc> HI ,PJSingh5000 ,i managed to resolve that problem last night.
[03:17] <MetaPhaze> |XN|, not unless you go back and set password encryption settings
[03:17] <lyj> I mean auto login
[03:18] <Sayo> rooks: so now how do i get file manager to restore the mount point?
[03:18] <lyj> using root
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> lyj: its not controled at all, you are runing X and all the apps you launch as root too
[03:18] <rammyIRC> subtitles files in ubuntu
[03:18] <rmozden> lyj, once logged in as your user account you can do a sudo -i if you need to be root for a long time
[03:18] <MetaPhaze> by defautl it is going to MD5 password, then with most modern distros are going to salt the MD5
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> rammyIRC: what about them?
[03:18] <lyj> In my room ,only I can access my PC...
[03:18] <AudioTeknikk> ActionParsnip: OK thanks again :)
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> lyj: if you use web browsers, any remote explouits in flash and java script will too
[03:18] <izinucs> lyj: unless you're on the net.. then logged in as root anyone can get at you
[03:18] <rmozden> So I'm gonna be a bit of a compile noob here for a minute and ask what else do I need to do to make ipset 4.4 work as a kernel module under ubuntu 10.10 server now that I have done a make & make install using the KERNEL_SRC= directive ???
[03:18] <rammyIRC> they r nt recognized
[03:18] <rooks> Sayo, i dont know, but i know how to make it auto mounted there, by adding line to /etc/fstab
[03:18] <rammyIRC> by my player
[03:19] <apporc> PJSingh5000:It was because several dags ago ,i changed the umask in /etc/profile from 022 to 133.
[03:19] <lyj> :) only one user
[03:19] <izinucs> lyj: not on the net
[03:19] <lyj> and usualy I will turn off the net
[03:19] <rooks> sayo, so it will always be in /mnt/win
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> lyj: if you use the OS as user, they wont get any access, as root they can cause all manner of hell on your PC
[03:19] <lyj> Yes
[03:19] <|XN|> bear in mind
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> lyj: not if the remote exploit makes another, it can, as it will be root
[03:19] <izinucs> lyj: perhaps you really want to simply auto logon?
[03:19] <lyj> Yes
[03:19] <|XN|> we existed in a 'root' state for years using windows :P
[03:19] <MetaPhaze> rmozden, does make install not give you any options for ipset?
[03:19] <rmozden> lyj, if you need autologin for root I suggest a different flavor of linux as it will not happen in ubuntu for security reasons
[03:19] <Sayo> rooks: aghhhh damn yeah i can get that part, i need to figure out how to fix the pointing error :/
[03:19] <|XN|> *most* of us didn't suffer long term trauma from it
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> lyj: so your security is zero if you web browse as root
[03:20] <Sayo> rooks: but thank you never the less! :)
[03:20] <izinucs> lyj: yes to auto logon? as your user?
[03:20] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, It all ended up in my home folder
[03:20] <MetaPhaze> lyj, nonsense you can autologin root on ubuntu if you want
[03:20] <MetaPhaze> linux = linux
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: its not advised or supported
[03:20] <rooks> Sayo, ah, k :) sorry for misleading a bit then :)
[03:20] <lyj> I keep my PC offline
[03:20] <|XN|> ActionParsnip: And still 100% possible
[03:20] <|XN|> ;)
[03:20] <MetaPhaze> ActionParsnip, its not advised nor supported. thats fine, but he wants his sys to do that
[03:20] <quietone> When I go to watch TED videos, all I get is a blue box. What do I need to do? Same in firefox and epiphany. lucid.
[03:20] <lyj> Ah... So many philosophy..
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> |XN|: yes but not advised or supported or a goodd idea in any way
[03:21] <|XN|> ANd still 100% possible
[03:21]  * |XN| shrugs
[03:21] <|XN|> its his machine
[03:21] <|XN|> libre!
[03:21] <MetaPhaze> Exactly
[03:21] <FloodBot4> |XN|: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:21] <MetaPhaze> his machine
[03:21] <Sayo> rooks: no worries, but could you spare the command to delete a folder?
[03:21] <Sayo> rm is it?
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> |XN|: i'm not contesting the possibility
[03:21] <rmozden> lyj, root autologin goes against best practice for security
[03:21] <lyj> auto login using root
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> Sayo: rm -r folder
[03:21] <MetaPhaze> HE DOES NOT CARE
[03:21] <Sayo> thanks!
[03:21] <MetaPhaze> He just wants it to autologin as root
[03:21] <lyj> I say I keep it offline
[03:21] <lyj> and bear the risk
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> !noroot
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> !root
[03:21] <rmozden> lyj, and additionally it isnt supported in ubuntu
[03:21] <rooks> Sayo, yes
[03:21] <MetaPhaze> lyj, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=528303
[03:22] <ruimartins> hi everyone
[03:23] <lyj> Thank you MetaPhaze
[03:23] <Sayo> rooks: what would the syntax be to edit fstab to always mount that drive at a location?
[03:23] <rmozden> So I'm gonna be a bit of a compile noob here for a minute and ask what else do I need to do to make ipset 4.4 work as a kernel module under ubuntu 10.10 server now that I have done a make & make install using the KERNEL_SRC= directive ???
[03:23] <izinucs> rmozden: you might also ask in ##linux
[03:23] <MetaPhaze> lyj, no problem, most here don't understand the concept
[03:23] <rooks> Sayo, rm -r to remove a directory, when in doubt you can always consult manual by typing man rm
[03:23] <maco> rmozden: insmod
[03:24] <lyj> Yes, they are talking more about the philosophy
[03:24] <MetaPhaze> lyj, i know
[03:24] <ruimartins> i'm looking to install last ubuntu (10.10) on my macbook pro 5,5. i want to install it from usb, i follow the instructions on ubuntu.com, download section, but i can't boot from usb
[03:24] <ruimartins> could anyone help me please?
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> ruimartins: did you MD5 test the ISO before transferring to the USB?
[03:24] <rooks> Sayo,  "/dev/sda2 /mnt/win auto defaults 0 0" without quotes
[03:25] <MetaPhaze> lyj, if you want to do something, how do you do it...not lets talk philospohy. Thats why ive been in this chan for the better part of a day trying to get ubuntu installed
[03:25] <ruimartins> no
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | ruimartins
[03:25] <MetaPhaze> lyj, i know exactly why you want root autologin ;) thats your business, not mine but thats how you do it
[03:25] <Sayo> rooks: thanks!
[03:25] <MetaPhaze> i came here looking for help, instead been giving out help for hours, since I can't find anyone that has a clue on how *nix works
[03:25] <lyj> You want to get ubuntu installed??
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: why would you want root access?
[03:26] <ruimartins> but the problem is that don't show USB from boot menu of mac os, i don't think that corrupted image could be a problem...
[03:26] <ruimartins> but i'll check
[03:26] <MetaPhaze> ActionParsnip, for purposes other then administrating your own machine? duh
[03:26] <lyj> Haven't you installed ubuntu?
[03:26] <rooks> Sayo, youre welcome :)
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: can you expand on that please
[03:26] <MetaPhaze> lyj I can't even ge tthis BS distro to install
[03:26] <MetaPhaze> ActionParsnip, if I got access to YOUR box
[03:26] <AbhiJit> :o
[03:26] <MetaPhaze> ActionParsnip, why not have ROOT on YOUR box
[03:27] <lyj> what is BS distor?
[03:27] <MetaPhaze> bullshit distro
[03:27] <lyj> why not?
[03:27] <izinucs> MetaPhaze: you can with sudo -i .. until you "exit"  .. no need to actually boot into root
[03:27] <lyj> Anything I can help
[03:27] <mooly> MetaPhaze: just 'su'
[03:27] <mooly> instead of sudo
[03:27] <MetaPhaze> sure su as root
[03:27] <lyj> It's easy to install ubuntu
[03:27] <izinucs> mooly: su doesn't do it.. sudo -i = su
[03:27] <MetaPhaze> but if ive got access to a box, cracked the *nix MD5
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: because it isnt needed, i can do absolutely anything with sudo and gksud
[03:28] <MetaPhaze> why fuck around that shit, since I can just login in to the box as root
[03:28] <mooly> su is a better idea than sudo
[03:28] <MetaPhaze> saves a step
[03:28] <FloodBot4> MetaPhaze: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:28] <lyj> You just login use common user
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: logging in as root and launching apps launches them as root so if anything malicious starts happening with them, then there is zer limit to damage
[03:28] <lyj> and su to get root priviliege
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> lyj: use:   sudo -i
[03:29] <mooly> use su
[03:29] <mooly> dont use sudo -i
[03:29] <MetaPhaze> ActionParsnip, if I'm logged in as root I can maniulplate anything
[03:29] <izinucs> mooly: try it.. it doesn't work
[03:29] <lyj> I usually use #sudo passwd su
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: i can do that without root
[03:29] <lyj> to change root passwd
[03:29] <lyj> and then can su at my will
[03:29] <MetaPhaze> then root my box and help me install ubuntu to this drive ;)
[03:29] <lyj> or login using root when start X
[03:29] <maco> !language | MetaPhaze
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: if you use a browser as root and there are alicious scripts then the script can make users and install things and change your OS without you knowing
[03:29] <pab> how to get su to play nice with kde4?
[03:30] <mooly> lol #ubuntu being family friendly
[03:30] <maco> mooly: can't su if you dont have a root password
[03:30]  * izinucs thinks "not another!
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: as a user, the access is limited to $HOME only
[03:30] <MetaPhaze> ActionParsnip, thats what I think lyj is teying to accomplish
[03:30] <maco> lyj: we dont recommend setting a root password here
[03:30] <MetaPhaze> lyj is TRYING TO HACK A BOX
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: what, breaking his/her OS?
[03:30] <lyj> Not hack
[03:30] <MetaPhaze> ugh nevermind subject moves on
[03:30] <mooly> lol no root password
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> maco: ive been trying to tell them and why its a bad idea and not supported
[03:30] <izinucs> maco: that's already been made clear
[03:30] <lyj> I just want to fast open my PC
[03:30] <mooly> `sudo passwd`
[03:30] <MetaPhaze> Of course it is a foolish idea
[03:31] <MetaPhaze> unlesss ts not your box
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> lyj: what is "fast open"
[03:31] <maco> mooly: why is the idea of using respectful family-friendly language funny to you?
[03:31] <MetaPhaze> then who gives a POOP
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: its a bad idea, period
[03:31] <MetaPhaze> maco, its not just frustrated sorry
[03:31] <lyj> open PC and fast login using root without any words typeed
[03:31] <mooly> maco: i never said anything about language
[03:31] <MetaPhaze> I strongly respect the language here
[03:31] <mooly> lol
[03:31] <lyj> when I'm back it's waiting for me
[03:31] <maco> mooly: you lol'd at family friendly
[03:31] <mooly> maco: i sure did
[03:32] <quietone> How do I watch a TED talk? All I get is a blue box.
[03:32] <Diamondcite> lyj: Is there anything wrong with automatic login as a normal user that isn't root?
[03:32] <Diamondcite> lyj: The start up time would be the same.
[03:32] <tortoise> alright, I'm having a very frustrating time with this error message: "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode." I've been trying to fix it for several hours and I've gotten nowhere. Is there anyone that can help me with this?
[03:32] <lyj> if using normal user, I need type  sudo many times when I want to gain root priviliege
[03:33] <maco> Diamondcite: no, that's fine
[03:33] <tortoise> also, I think it's https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31154 this bug
[03:33] <MetaPhaze> look this is how i feel
[03:33] <izinucs> tortoise: what graphic card
[03:33] <tortoise> ATI Radeon X1200
[03:33] <Diamondcite> maco and lyj = same person?
[03:33] <Kanadavos> can someone tell me what the difference between the ubuntu 10.10 ~700mb cd iso file and the ~4.2gb dvd iso is?
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> lyj: yes, thats normal
[03:33] <maco> Diamondcite: no
[03:33] <lyj> No
[03:33] <maco> lyj: and then if someone gets something sneaky on your system, they would have to know your sudo password too, but they hopefully won't so, yay! security!
[03:33] <lyj> we are different
[03:33] <Diamondcite> I can't tell who wanted what -_-'
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> lyj: your sudo gets a grace period so you dont have to type the password each time
[03:34] <izinucs> lyj: as normal user sudo -i will give you root for as long as you want without having ot retype it over and over
[03:34] <maco> ActionParsnip: 15 minutes, iirc
[03:34] <lyj> my PC is offline
[03:34] <MetaPhaze> Well i gotta get drunk and I sure do dread it...cuz i just know what im gonna do...gonna start spending my money call everyone honey, wind up singing the blues...
[03:34] <lyj> Yes, you say as long as
[03:34] <MetaPhaze> lyj, PM me for help on this issue
[03:34] <MetaPhaze> i know what you want
[03:34] <Diamondcite> lyj: If you don't mind being asked.. what can you do that needs root that often?
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> lyj: you can use: sudo -i   and it won't ask until you type: exit
[03:34] <MetaPhaze> Anyone have any idea why I can't install Ubuntu to a DEV GPART sees?
[03:34] <Sayo> hey also,anyone know if you can switch the desktop mode in UNR?
[03:34] <maco> lyj: as long as you dont type "logout" or "exit" or hit ctrl+D, sudo -i will stay put
[03:34] <tortoise> izinucs, not sure if you saw that. But just in case, it's an ATI Radeon X1200
[03:35] <lyj> haha ,you say as long as again
[03:35] <izinucs> tortoise: nope didn't.. sounds like an older one is that right?
[03:35] <maco> lyj: er....? and?
[03:35] <she> you  a
[03:35] <maco> is something wrong with that phrase?
[03:35] <tortoise> izinucs, yeah, it is
[03:35]  * ActionParsnip smells a troll
[03:35] <maco> ActionParsnip: ditto
[03:35] <harshit_> hey , i am naive to linux/ubuntu, can anyone suggest how can i fix sound problem
[03:36] <MetaPhaze> can't buy me love
[03:36] <jhansonxi> lyj: "sudo su" also works to get a root shell.
[03:36] <lyj> I say I know how to get a root shell.
[03:36] <tortoise> This error is really irritating, and I really need to have this gui by tomorrow morning for school. It would be great if someone could help me fix this
[03:36] <izinucs> tortoise: I'm not sure if the drivers have caught up with it .. when x.org changed to 7.x or was it 1.7x something like that.. it broke compatability for older ati cards and ati decited to put efforts into their newer stuff first.. not sure if there is a fix or not.
[03:36] <tortoise> I was trying to get help in #radeon, but that place is dead right now
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> lyj: much more secure that way
[03:37] <rmozden> So I'm gonna be a bit of a compile noob here for a minute and ask what else do I need to do to make ipset 4.4 work as a kernel module under ubuntu 10.10 server now that I have done a make & make install using the KERNEL_SRC= directive ???
[03:37] <lyj> if it's offline, any dangerous?
[03:37] <izinucs> tortoise: perhaps in ##linux
[03:37] <tortoise> but it was working fine earlier
[03:37] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, New error message at least
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> lyj: its good practice for when and if you get online
[03:37] <tortoise> it had been working for a few weeks. And I didn't have any updates before it happened.
[03:37] <izinucs> tortoise: how do you mean "earlier".. on 8.04 or 9.10?
[03:37] <lyj> Ar... Stop talking about philosophy...
[03:37] <maco> lyj: a root shell (no matter how you get to it) is dangerous offline if you forget to lock your screen...but other than that, not really
[03:38] <tortoise> no, I've had 10.04 for a few weeks. And it had been working fine until earlier today.
[03:38] <izinucs> tortoise: any recent updates?
[03:38] <maco> tortoise: did you change anything?
[03:38] <tortoise> izinucs, none
[03:38] <Diamondcite> lyj: Instaed of philosophy.. why do you want to be root on login? What does root login let you do that you can't do as a normal user or bothers you so much that root must be used?
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> lyj: i never mentioned philosophy
[03:38] <tortoise> izinucs, I was restarting to get back in ubuntu (I was in vista doing something) and when I booted ubunut up it gave me that error
[03:39] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, I suppose this is progress:  FATAL: Module ip_set not found.
[03:39] <rmozden> ipset v4.4: Couldn't verify kernel module version!
[03:39] <lyj> I don't need sudo any more if login as root
[03:39] <apporc> I think , it is really dangerous when you always use root to login.
[03:39] <rusivi> tortoise: If your Wubi'ing, your best bet is to do a native install of Ubuntu and virtualize Windows if required.
[03:39] <izinucs> tortoise: do a full update with .. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade .. then look in system>admin>hardware drivers and see if there's something there to activate.
[03:39] <flintwestwood1> evening, i have an ipod touch 3rd generation. I would like to add pdf's to it so that they show up in ibooks or stanza from ubuntu 10.10. is that possible? rythmbox wont let me sync the pdf to the device.
[03:39] <MetaPhaze> rmozden, standbye I got like 50 PM's
[03:40] <Diamondcite> lyj: And you need to sudo for what purpose? To browse the web? Listen to much? Make a picture?
[03:40] <tortoise> rusivi, I'm not wubi'ing, I've got ubuntu on a separate partition from vista
[03:40] <izinucs> tortoise: hadn't thought of that.. is this a Wubi install?
[03:40] <maco> Diamondcite: i can think of things that would likely break if logged in to gnome as root... like every application that uses policykit
[03:40] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, lucky you!  Hopefully to help fix your issue!
[03:40] <MetaPhaze> rmozden, they are everyones issues
[03:40] <tortoise> when I installed, I just shrunk the partition vista was on, and installed ubuntu in the largest block of free space
[03:40] <MetaPhaze> PM me your issue
[03:40] <Diamondcite> maco: I just want to know why he hates to do sudo, what can make a user need it so often every single day to want to be logged in as root instead.
[03:40] <MetaPhaze> since no one can help ill just help everyone else
[03:40] <RE90> i've been gone through every frikin thread on the internet and can't seem to install my canon PIXMA iP1600....help?
[03:40] <lyj> so any file or folder you can access using normal account?
[03:40] <izinucs> tortoise: do the update as a first step
[03:41] <lyj> In such cases, you should su
[03:41] <maco> lyj: why?
[03:41] <tortoise> izinucs, which update?
[03:41] <pksadiq> !danger
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> lyj: you can use sudo and gksudo to get any access you need
[03:41] <pksadiq> lyj: sy him sudo -i
[03:41] <maco> pksadiq: uh.....which?
[03:41] <izinucs> tortoise: check for your highlight line from me above..
[03:41] <pksadiq> lyj: say*
[03:41] <izinucs> tortoise: do a full update with .. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade .. then look in system>admin>hardware drivers and see if there's something there to activate.
[03:41] <Diamondcite> lyj: You can go to just about every part of the system as a normal user. The only parts you can't write to are parts that'll harm you anyway. The only parts that you can't read, are not meant to be seen by a normal user anyway or people taking over your system for that matter.
[03:42] <pksadiq> maco: use sudo -i          or gksudo        it's safe
[03:42] <lyj> Yes , just write
[03:42] <MetaPhaze> lyj, you should be able to issue 'su root ****' to the init.config
[03:42] <maco> pksadiq: "su" itself isnt actively dangerous. particularly since it *wont work* by default ;-)
[03:42] <maco> MetaPhaze: i dont think you can give the password on the su line
[03:42] <Diamondcite> lyj: So.. why do you want to write into /proc.. or maybe the hashed passwords file?
[03:43] <tortoise> izinucs, I'm in cli, because I can't access the gui with this error. But when I did the upgrade there was apparently nothing to upgrade to. 0 upgraded, 0 newly, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:43] <lyj> hehe, I didn't want to enum.
[03:43] <lyj> So what if I didn't need..
[03:44] <izinucs> tortoise: well.. it was worth a shot.. sorry I'm not much of an ati person.. I've no idea how to fix it.
[03:44] <MetaPhaze> maco you should be able to with an ascii return
[03:44] <MetaPhaze> ALT+***
[03:44] <maco> MetaPhaze: ctrl+M i thought....
[03:44] <tortoise> izinucs, sigh, no one seems to know anything about this error. DO you have any suggestions for where else to ask for help?
[03:44] <MetaPhaze> should be able to give init.config a return carrier with the passwd yhou want
[03:44] <tortoise> I'm already trying to get help in #radeon
[03:44] <MetaPhaze> not sure about linux, since ic an't use it right now
[03:45] <MetaPhaze> but I think the standard ASCII code is ALT+3(NumberPAD)
[03:45] <Diamondcite> lyj: Select programs can always be made to always run as root.. Or you can even have it so that a single change can be made and even folders you aren't supposed to see becomes visible to you.
[03:45] <maco> tortoise: can try askubuntu.com for tech support from folks who dont have to coincidentally be online when you are
[03:45] <MetaPhaze> im pretty sure that will work on *nix, windows, dos, etc...
[03:45] <maco> MetaPhaze: the use of alt+numpad is a windows thing
[03:45] <izinucs> tortoise: maybe in ##linux. I had the same on my install with nvidia.. I needed to install the binary driver to fix it.. it may also have something to do with xrandr which controls screen resoution etc.
[03:46] <maco> MetaPhaze: can do ctrl+shift+u to enter unicode codepoints in gtk apps (no support in qt, sadly), but carriage return is ctrl+M in *nix
[03:46] <MetaPhaze> maco, it will work in Linux as well
[03:46] <elwoodpd> I installed Ubuntu in parallel with windows and the windows record has disappeared from grub.
[03:46] <tortoise> izinucs, alright I'll check those out. Thanks for the help
[03:46] <MetaPhaze> not unico
[03:46] <MetaPhaze> unicode
[03:46] <MetaPhaze> ASCII chars
[03:46] <elwood_pd> What can I do?
[03:46] <izinucs> tortoise: good luck
[03:46] <Diamondcite> I have other things to attend to.. *poof*
[03:46] <maco> MetaPhaze: is that a new thing? i tried using alt+ascii-on-numpad in 2006 and it didnt work
[03:47] <elwood_pd> The first time I rebooted it was there now it is gone
[03:47] <apporc> elwoodpd:you can add it yourself
[03:47] <elwood_pd> teach me
[03:47] <maco> MetaPhaze: i just tried again. doesnt do anything. just types the numbers
[03:47] <apporc> elwood_pd: you can type fdisk -l and find out which partition your windows is in .
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> elwood_pd: if you run: sudo update-grub    do you see the windows entry being added?
[03:48] <venilsurya> I have a number of programs in my startup apps - Gnome Keyring PKCS#1, Gnome Keyring: Secret Service, Gnome Keyring:SSH Agent. Which one of these are needed. All I use is the root password and my login password.
[03:48] <MetaPhaze> maco, your teling me Vi doesn't support ALT+Numpad?
[03:48] <maco> MetaPhaze: yep
[03:48] <elwood_pd> nope
[03:49] <Sayo> hello again, i have to ask, if i have like 30 gigs of unpartitioned space, is there any way to 'add it' to my current partition?
[03:49] <apporc> elwood_pd:and then in /boot/grub/menu.lst ,add somthing like ....yes ,you should listen ActionParsnip .That's simple
[03:49]  * rmozden feels frustrated and has to be on a plane at 6am
[03:49] <earthen> sayo yes
[03:49] <MetaPhaze> maco Pico should support ALT+NUMpad
[03:49] <elwood_pd> ActionParsnip,  windows isn't there
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> Sayo: you can make a new partition in it and mount it, or resize a partition into it. If you resize, ensure your backups are up to date in case of catastrophe
[03:50] <elwood_pd> why would it have been dropped?
[03:50] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, is there anyway I can just add what I've compiled since I see all the files in my home folder?
[03:50] <maco> MetaPhaze: pico? you mean nano?
[03:50] <Sayo> ActionParsnip: i'd like to resize my current partition but disk utility isn't giving me the option, can i not do it from within this shell?
[03:50] <earthen> anyone know of a good sync program for android
[03:50] <izinucs> maco: pico / nano .. both editors
[03:50] <maco> izinucs: pico is the proprietary not-on-ubuntu one
[03:51] <apporc> elwood_pd: you may try grub-setup
[03:51] <MetaPhaze> its been along time since i used *nix sorry if im not up to speed on txt editors
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> (although I think pico might still exist as a symlink to nano)
[03:51] <Sayo> ActionParsnip: omg my current partition is under a 20 gig extention :(
[03:51] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, or for that matter, use module-assistant to use the src I downloaded?
[03:51] <maco> MetaPhaze: of course neither vi nor nano will accept alt+numpad.  the terminal emulator itself does not accept them, so it cant pass it to the editor
[03:51] <Sayo> extension*
[03:51] <MetaPhaze> rmozden, you want to recompile kernel to include ... ?
[03:51] <Sayo> I'm going to assume if i'm locked into set extension i can't resize it?
[03:52] <maco> MetaPhaze: neither gnome-terminator nor konsole can take them
[03:52] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, Should work as a module
[03:52] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, Did in 10.04 anyway
[03:52] <MetaPhaze> rmozden, im with you now
[03:52] <MetaPhaze> you want to add module to kernel
[03:52] <elwood_pd> hmm
[03:52] <MetaPhaze> What are you trying to get in to module IPv6?
[03:53] <elwood_pd> fdisk reports two NFTS partitions
[03:53] <apporc> elwood_pd:who are they ?
[03:53] <elwood_pd> I only though I had one.
[03:53] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, Right ... all the files compiled and are sitting in a directory  ( for ipset 4.4) but I either need to recompile with module-assistant specifying the 4.4 source or manually install the compiled files
[03:54] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, Hopefully that made sense
[03:54] <elwood_pd> /dev/sda1   *           1          13      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:54] <MetaPhaze> rmozden, give me a moment, I know what you want. When you ran make it should have asked you about ipset
[03:54] <elwood_pd> /dev/sda2              13        4870    39009792    7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:54] <MetaPhaze> i think you need a real distro ;)
[03:54] <apporc> elwood_pd:You can run this grub-setup /dev/sda
[03:54] <apporc> elwood_pd:and tell me what happened then.
[03:55] <elwood_pd> cannot guess the root device
[03:55] <serard> re
[03:55] <elwood_pd> apporc, ?
[03:55] <serard> I'm trying to configure my nfs share. I can mount my share using regular command line, but my fstab isn't working
[03:55] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, the dist of ipset for ubuntu is broken and the src from ubuntu errors on compile hence why I went for 4.4 version instead of packaged 2.5
[03:55] <MetaPhaze> rmozden, did you do a...
[03:55] <apporc> elwood_pd:you can try :sudo grub-setup /dev/sda
[03:55] <MetaPhaze> 'make dep'
[03:56] <MetaPhaze> 'make clean'
[03:56] <MetaPhaze> and make?
[03:56] <serard> Here's my fstab line : "<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/serard /home/serard/nfs/test-ubuntu-server	nfs	user,noauto	0 0" Then I run "sudo mount -a" and I get nothing
[03:56] <apporc> elwood_pd:it doesn't matter which partition is the boot device.
[03:56] <MetaPhaze> make clean should fix 4.4ver > 2.5ver
[03:56] <apporc> elwood_pd:just grub-setup /dev/sda wiht root priveleges.
[03:57] <NightDragon> hello all
[03:57] <elwood_pd> did it with sudo it didn't return anything
[03:57] <NightDragon> i'm having trouble setting up IPMI on my server
[03:57] <NightDragon> Could not open device at /dev/ipmi0
[03:57] <apporc> elwood_pd:yes with sudo.
[03:57] <Guest16791> hello ,
[03:57] <NightDragon> is the error that i'm getting... does anyone have experience with this
[03:57] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, I followed the directions at http://ipset.netfilter.org/install.html
[03:57] <apporc> Guest16791:hello.
[03:57] <MetaPhaze> rmozden, standbye let me look
[03:58] <poulix_troy> how would i know if someone is leechin on m network,im usin 8.04
[03:58] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, and I did use the kernel_dir with the compile
[03:58] <elwood_pd> apporc, I did it with sudo, nothing showed up.
[03:58] <elwood_pd> it just newlined
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> poulix_troy: look in your routers DHCP clients list for PC names you don't recognise
[03:58] <MetaPhaze> did you do a make clean?
[03:58] <apporc> elwood_pd:echo $?
[03:58] <rmozden> MetaPhaze, gonna re-do it right now
[03:59] <elwood_pd> workd
[03:59] <apporc> elwood_pd:see the result of "echo $?" and is it 0?
[03:59] <elwood_pd> *works
[03:59] <elwood_pd> nah its $
[03:59] <MetaPhaze> rmozden, good idea