[04:20] <Guerin> mod25: I don't believe it's possible; I'm not the first person to tell you this
[04:20] <tritium> Listener, np
[04:20] <cavediver> How do i run separate resolutions on my tv from monitor using metamodes. It seems my tv has the same resolution i set my monitor to
[04:20] <Guerin> lunitik: ok, right.
[04:20] <adam_> anyone got some ati assistance they can give me?
[04:20] <SeamusLP> Guerin:  uh, won't that play in xmms, gstreamer, vlc etc?
[04:20] <adam_> i dont want to bother bob
[04:21] <adam_> hes busy lol
[04:21] <cavediver> I have metamodes "1280x1024,800x600" now
[04:21] <Guerin> SeamusLP: can you make it work in rhythmbox?
[04:21] <tritium> cavediver, are you using nvidia twinview?
[04:21] <Amaranth> whoa, i'm #2 in google for "gnome menu editor"
[04:21] <mjt> bob2: "Software suspend currently supports only x86 based hardware, and requires a CPU with pse or pse36 support. This excludes CPUs such as the VIA C3, but almost all other modern Intel and AMD CPUs should be supported."
[04:21] <cavediver> tritium: yes. with clone option
[04:22] <adam_> anyone want to help me with an ati driver prob?
[04:22] <adam_> bob is busy....
[04:22] <tritium> cavediver, I assume you've read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz ?
[04:22] <SeamusLP> Guerin:  Well actually I think I'm wrong about that.  Yeah, better ditch AAC.
[04:22] <cavediver> tritium: yes.
[04:22] <SeamusLP> Unless you're an ipod freak or something
[04:22] <[Spooky] > isnt there a command to install *.deb files in Ubuntu ?
[04:22] <cavediver> dpkg -i *.deb
[04:22] <bob2> mjt: ah, I did read that once, right
[04:22] <rijad> damn links broken...
[04:23] <BockBilbo> congrats Amaranth
[04:23] <[Spooky] > cavediver: ah thanks
[04:23] <adam_> bob2, since noone else has time, here is what my glxinfo says....
[04:23] <tritium> cavediver, I've only been able to run at the same resolution
[04:23] <adam_> bob2, direct rendering: No
[04:23] <Xebitx> after I installed mplayer do I need to reinstall w32codecs and gstreamer?
[04:23] <cavediver> tritium: really? hmm, strange
[04:23] <tritium> yep
[04:24] <Guerin> Xebitx: no
[04:24] <cavediver> will try some stuff now
[04:25] <Xebitx> it freezes when trying to play xvid movies
[04:25] <bob2> adam_: ok, that's a shame.  try asking on the user list.
[04:25] <adam_> user list?
[04:25] <adam_> oh
[04:25] <adam_> ok
[04:25] <Jefis> i started apache webserver(http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ ) everyone can connect to me, but i can't!
[04:26] <Amaranth> Jefis: It's possible your router is blocking this.
[04:27] <Jefis> nop
[04:27] <Jefis> imposible
[04:27] <Amaranth> Jefis: When you want to go to it from your own computer just go to http://localhost
[04:27] <kent> is the msn network down, or is my gaim client going nuts?  I can login into my system with a normal or ldap user, so it works, but when I reboot, the system freeze on each chown 0:0, searching user in ldap, but not in local. I have "passwd: files ldap" in my /etc/nsswitch.conf
[04:32] <tom_neo> and where is the problem with a webcam feature in linux?
[04:32] <tom_neo> you just have to look which cam to buy, before you buy ^^
[04:32] <Ironfrost> tom_neo: there isn't one, that's what the problem is
[04:32] <SeamusLP> adam_:  Uhh... you running hoary or warty?
[04:33] <tom_neo> there is of course
[04:33] <Guerin> gnome-meeting is a far better webcam app than msn
[04:33] <BockBilbo> Amaranth, ohh so, which one is yours?
[04:33] <BockBilbo> the one written in python?
[04:33] <Ironfrost> only in the Gnome Meeting which is only for linux
[04:33] <adam_> SeamusLP, 64 bit, not sure which kernel
[04:33] <kenny> isnt there gnome meeting or something
[04:33] <adam_> SeamusLP, still learning alot
[04:33] <Ironfrost> kenny - you can't talk to Windows people on it
[04:33] <Guerin> gnome-meeting is more h.323 compatible than netmeeting
[04:33] <Guerin> and works fine with netmeeting on the windows end
[04:33] <adam_> SeamusLP, i know alot now, for being a noob, but not that much
[04:33] <Amaranth> BockBilbo: Yeah, the one on the ubuntu forums.
[04:33] <thoreauputic> Ironfrost: you can, actually
[04:33] <Ironfrost> you can?
[04:33] <Guerin> and better yet, netmeeting is already present on all windows machines, and contains no evilware
[04:34] <Ironfrost> thanks a lot
[04:34] <Ironfrost> that's really good to know
[04:34] <Ironfrost> does it work through a router?
[04:34] <mjr> there's the little snag that you have to install some less-proprietary codec to netmeeting for it to use, but after that it should work, yes
[04:34] <Guerin> if you can configure it and the router properly, sure
[04:34] <Ironfrost> thanks a lot
[04:34] <BockBilbo> nice
[04:34] <Guerin> yeah, the codecs are a thing
[04:34] <BockBilbo> perhaps, yesterday I was thinking on making one
[04:34] <BockBilbo> lol
[04:34] <mjr> through a router, without a doubt, through a firewall, well, you may have to configure stuff
[04:35] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> with ubuntu is it easy to get apt-get repos for like mplayer, ogle, amd there deps
[04:35] <BockBilbo> i though of doing one in python or java
[04:35] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> ?
[04:35] <bob2> JuNkPhreak|UnIx: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:35] <Xebitx> are there any skins for xmms?
[04:35] <Xebitx> cause the default one is really ugly
[04:35] <kenny> codecs are easy to get for ubuntu
[04:36] <kenny> and so is java
[04:36] <Amaranth> Xebitx: Winamp 2 skins work on xmms
[04:36] <kenny> ubuntu website rocks for support
[04:36] <tritium> Xebitx, apt-cache search xmms did find one called "xmms-skins"
[04:36] <Ironfrost> ubuntuguide.org is good as well
[04:36] <BockBilbo> cuz i dont know c either
[04:37] <thoreauputic> Xebitx: there are heaps of skins for xmms
[04:37] <kenny> i bought suse linux 9.2 and trying to  get support for is a nightmare,  ill never go back to rpm based systems
[04:37] <Weems> how do i set the root pass on warty livecd?
[04:37] <BockBilbo> Amaranth, im gonna talk about your menu editor in my blog if you dont mind
[04:37] <BockBilbo> :)
[04:37] <Weems> kenny: fedora is alright
[04:37] <tritium> Weems, there is no root password: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:37] <Amaranth> BockBilbo: Only if you link to my website. ;)
[04:37] <BockBilbo> oh
[04:37] <BockBilbo> ok
[04:38] <kenny> is there a menu editor
[04:38] <BockBilbo> you mean this website? :http://manny.cluecoder.org/packages/gnome-menu-editor/ ?
[04:38] <Amaranth> eek
[04:38] <Amaranth> no :P
[04:38] <BockBilbo> ...
[04:38] <BockBilbo> Amaranth, give the website so
[04:38] <BockBilbo> :)
[04:38] <Amaranth> http://www.realistanew.com
[04:38] <Amaranth> would probably be better to link to the latest menu editor post
[04:39] <superted> is there something wrong with me/my install if there haven't been any updates for like 2 days?
[04:39] <floater> The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.10) does not match your running
[04:39] <floater> kernel (version 2.6.10-5-k7).  Even if the module were to compile successfully,
[04:39] <floater> it would not load into the running kernel.
[04:39] <BockBilbo> Amaranth, ill made two links if you want to
[04:40] <floater> Why it says that, doesn't it match ?
[04:40] <Amaranth> BockBilbo: No, don't do that. :P Just http://www.realistanew.com/2005/03/18/gnome-menu-editor/
[04:40] <BockBilbo> oks
[04:40] <Xebitx> where are xmms skins saved?
[04:41] <BockBilbo> ill tell you once the post is written
[04:41] <tritium> floater, you need linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:41] <floater> I have
[04:41] <tritium> Xebitx, dpkg -L xmms-skins
[04:41] <floater> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[04:41] <netgrabber> how can I remove every package from marillat?
[04:41] <floater> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-k7/include/
[04:41] <thoreauputic> Xebitx: ~/.xmms/Skins
[04:42] <thoreauputic> Xebitx: I think from memory
[04:42] <floater> I chose that
[04:43] <floater> and that is the kernel that I am running
[04:43] <KoMpLoT> Hi
[04:44] <Xebitx> thoreauputic, what does that mean
[04:44] <Xebitx> thoreauputic, ~/.xmms/Skins
[04:44] <floater> tritium: any clues what might be the problem ?
[04:44] <tritium> floater, what is it you're trying to do?
[04:44] <haritz> excuse me all, Who know the url for xmms ?
[04:44] <haritz> i want to download it
[04:44] <floater> I am trying to install vmware. Had to rerun vmware-config.pl after I just patched the vmware with any-any patch
[04:44] <Xebitx> I get it
[04:45] <thoreauputic> Xebitx: that's the hidden dir for xmms in you home directory (dot means hidden)
[04:45] <tritium> haritz, just use apt-get install xmms, or install from synaptic
[04:45] <haritz> tritium ; i try both sir
[04:45] <haritz> but can't work out
[04:45] <thoreauputic> Xebitx: there's probably a system wide one as well
[04:45] <tritium> haritz, it's in Hoary main
[04:45] <wfx> hi, how to i configure soundbuffer size
[04:45] <BockBilbo> Amaranth, whats the best way to install it?
[04:45] <BockBilbo> via deb?
[04:45] <BockBilbo> epa haritz :) i guess you are from my area lol
[04:45] <BockBilbo> :)
[04:46] <Amaranth> BockBilbo: Yep, that's the only way.
[04:46] <floater> Even if the module were to compile successfully,it would not load into the running kernel.  this is what it says also.. then it prompts me to give a new dir
[04:46] <haritz> BockBilbo : where?
[04:46] <BockBilbo> euskadi
[04:46] <BockBilbo> :P
[04:46] <BockBilbo> ok
[04:46] <sir_latin> Hey, I'm installing ubuntu and it didn't recognize my network card :( It's an old ISA network card.. what can I do? :(
[04:46] <bob2> floater: you paid hundreds of dollars for vmware, and they won't help you install it?
[04:46] <BockBilbo> so i guess ill write in the post to install it via the deb commented on one of the comments of your web
[04:47] <Xebitx> great it works
[04:47] <floater> bob, the evaluation period doesn't grant any help
[04:47] <sir_latin> I had Gentoo installed once, and it worked there. No probs with Windows 98 either :/
[04:47] <Xebitx> now i just need to find a really cool winamp 2 skin
[04:47] <haritz> bockbilbo : nope i don't know euskadi
[04:47] <tritium> haritz, you should be able to find xmms, as it's in the main repository.
[04:47] <BockBilbo> haritz, you dont? euskadi= basque country.... i was telling you that cause Haritz in the Basque Language is the name for "Oak"
[04:47] <floater> or I guess it could, but it would take longer time
[04:48] <wfx> Xebitx, take a look: http://www.skinz.org/
[04:48] <BockBilbo> perhaps, its a common name for boys
[04:48] <Ironfrost> probably a dumb question, but how do I search for a file?
[04:48] <BockBilbo> brb
[04:49] <BockBilbo> have to restart X
[04:49] <haritz> BockBilbo : i don't know :P
[04:49] <BockBilbo> hehe
[04:49] <BockBilbo> now you know ;)
[04:49] <BockBilbo> brb
[04:49] <haritz> tritium : i can't find it in synaptic
[04:50] <pmai> which tool do automatic burn 11G with these cd has 80MB?
[04:50] <tritium> haritz, the main repository is setup by default.  Did you disable it?
[04:50] <Xebitx> wfx, thx
[04:50] <KoMpLoT> Hi everyone, I'm having an issue with kernel 2.6.11, I've followed the KernelByHand Howto from Ubuntu's wiki
[04:50] <infornography> I have Xine installed and working. Is there any way to get embedded video in firefox without installing another media player?
[04:50] <wfx> Ironfrost, find [path...]  [expression]  example
[04:50] <Coily> could someone give me an example line from fstab which would mount an ext3 partition?
[04:50] <KoMpLoT> I've included support for the fs and the sata controller
[04:50] <Ironfrost> wfx - thanks
[04:51] <Coily> anyone?
[04:51] <KoMpLoT> but I'm getting this error: "kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[04:51] <tritium> Coily, see ubuntuguide.org
[04:51] <haritz> tritium : i dunno how to disable it sir
[04:51] <Coily> tritium, they only cover fat32/ntfs
[04:51] <Coily> could someone give me an example line from fstab which would mount an ext3 partition?
[04:51] <wfx> Ironfrost, ups the example :) but here is : find / -name fstab or with gnome Places/Search Files
[04:52] <whiteknight> hi everyone
[04:52] <snowblink> Coily, set your type to ext3
[04:52] <KoMpLoT> Coily, "/dev/hda2    /mydata    ext3    defaults   0  2"
[04:52] <Sp4rKy> hi
[04:52] <Coily> thank you
[04:52] <Sp4rKy> we've any issue with divx
[04:53] <Sp4rKy> could you help us
[04:53] <BockBilbo> ....
[04:53] <BockBilbo> polypaudio doesnt work fine :(
[04:53] <scizzo> Sp4rKy: looked at restrictedformats?
[04:53] <BockBilbo> does the final release of hoary use polypaudio or esound?
[04:53] <Sp4rKy> scizzo, have you an url please ?
[04:54] <tritium> BockBilbo, esd
[04:54] <wfx> Xebitx, btw cools wallpapers are here :http://wfx.deviantart.com/gallery/ :-)
[04:54] <KoMpLoT> any clue about the kernel issue?
[04:54] <BockBilbo> tritium, why didnt they finally switch to polypaudio?
[04:54] <Sp4rKy> scizzo, we've a warning when we try to install mplayer
[04:54] <scizzo> Sp4rKy: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:54] <tritium> BockBilbo, problems when they tried switching over to polypaudio
[04:54] <joneil> warning with the dependencies with mplayer
[04:55] <Sp4rKy> scizzo, thx
[04:55] <tritium> haritz, what is the output from "apt-cache policy xmms"?
[04:55] <BockBilbo> tritium, and will they include in the next stable release?
[04:55] <Sp4rKy> joneil, take a look at this
[04:55] <tritium> BockBilbo, I haven't heard, actually.  I assume so.
[04:55] <BockBilbo> oh
[04:55] <BockBilbo> ok
[04:55] <tom_neo> ko
[04:55] <tom_neo> ho
[04:55] <BockBilbo> so i guess i better dont try to mess with polypaudio
[04:55] <infornography> I have Xine installed and working. Is there any way to get embedded video in firefox without installing another media player?
[04:56] <BockBilbo> and what about the next unstable ubuntu?
[04:56] <tritium> infornography, gxine has a mozilla plugin
[04:56] <ikaro> hellas
[04:56] <BockBilbo> when will be the development started?
[04:56] <nijan> hello, can i upgrade from 4.x to 5.x?
[04:56] <BockBilbo> nijan,  you mean from warty to hoary?
[04:56] <nijan> yes.
[04:57] <tritium> BockBilbo, couple of weeks or so is when universe work should start.  That's all I know.
[04:57] <picochu> scizzo: One of the major gripe i have with ubuntu is, it damn troublesome to add packages for restricted formats
[04:57] <scizzo> nijan: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary
[04:57] <nijan> tnx
[04:57] <haritz> tritium : It told "Installed: (none)
[04:57] <haritz>   Candidate: (none)
[04:57] <haritz>   Version table:
[04:57] <haritz> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:57] <haritz> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:57] <scizzo> picochu: have you read the wiki?
[04:57] <haritz>  "
[04:57] <tritium> picochu, that can't be helped, really.  It's the fault of the restricted formats, not ubuntu.
[04:58] <adam_> SeamusLP, still no
[04:58] <picochu> tritium: the work around is just to much work. I am not going to go thru all the steps for the desktops I'm going to install for non tech users
[04:58] <tritium> haritz, have you updated at all?  ("Reload" in syaptic, or apt-get update)?
[04:58] <haritz> how i do that
[04:59] <tritium> picochu, ubuntu has to stay legal, so they can't include restricted formats
[04:59] <BockBilbo> 4.10 --> 5.04 ?
[04:59] <BockBilbo> look at the wiki
[04:59] <BockBilbo> ok...
[04:59] <BockBilbo> and how will it be named?
[04:59] <BockBilbo> haritz, have you updated your lists?
[04:59] <BockBilbo> apt-get update
[05:00] <BockBilbo> *sudo apt-get update
[05:00] <mjr> picochu, hmh? You can pretty well make scripts to take care of the occasional install (just download and run)
[05:00] <BockBilbo> tritium, restricted formats are illegal?
[05:00] <infornography> tritium: Thanks
[05:00] <picochu> tritium: they don't have to include the binaries... there's always automated scripts to install "restricted formats"
[05:00] <tritium> infornography, sure
[05:00] <nijan> so hoary is unstable distro???
[05:00] <mjr> nijan, no
[05:00] <haritz> yep guy i already type apt-get update
[05:00] <tritium> BockBilbo, including them would be legallt problematic
[05:00] <picochu> nijan: nope
[05:00] <jamie_k> is the new distro shipping via mail yet? if we order it, will it come? thank you.
[05:00] <BockBilbo> ohh i see
[05:01] <mjr> nijan, hoary is currently stable, for many days now
[05:01] <zoso_kubuntu> Any ATI experts in the house?
[05:01] <BockBilbo> like libdvdcc
[05:01] <BockBilbo> right?
[05:01] <nijan> ah, ok, it doesn't seems from wiki.
[05:01] <scizzo> zoso_kubuntu: "I hurt!"
[05:01] <bob2> jamie_k: ~month ot so, as I understand it
[05:01] <bob2> BockBilbo: libdvdcss, yes
[05:01] <tritium> haritz, if you've updated, then you should be able to get xmms
[05:01] <scizzo> zoso_kubuntu: please...just ask the question
[05:01] <haritz> tritium , BockBilbo : it tell E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:01] <haritz> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:01] <jamie_k> bob2: thanks
[05:01] <BockBilbo> bob2,  thats what i meant
[05:01] <bob2> haritz: as root, of course
[05:02] <tritium> haritz, looks like you have synaptic running.  Close it if you're going to use apt-get
[05:02] <jasp> well this ubuntu thing looks pretty popular
[05:02] <BockBilbo> haritz, sudo apt-get update
[05:02] <BockBilbo> close synaptic as tritium says
[05:02] <haritz> ok ok i trying
[05:02] <occy> anyone know how to get nautilus to work like it did before Hoary?
[05:02] <Xebitx> Where should I install programs? im gonna install pftp and normally in windows I use C:\programmer\ ...how is it done in linux?
[05:02] <picochu> jasp: it's the distribution du jour... the hype will die down eventually
[05:02] <bob2> picochu: well, you can make your own "automatically-violate-patents" script if you want
[05:02] <tritium> occy, how was that?
[05:02] <jasp> picochu, okay :)
[05:02] <bob2> Xebitx: what do you want to install?
[05:02] <Xebitx> pftp
[05:03] <bob2> occy: the bug report talks about that
[05:03] <zoso_kubuntu> Allright, here goes. If the fglrx drivers is installed and appears to be loading correctly why would running fgl_glxgears cause the system to hang?
[05:03] <Sp4rKy> scizzo, sorry, but we'd just seen the restrictedformats and we'd already do that
[05:03] <Xebitx> pftp-mew
[05:03] <joneil> I have some problems when i want to install mplayer
[05:03] <bob2> Xebitx: why? sftp is in Ubuntu already.
[05:03] <wfx> solve my problem
[05:03] <scizzo> Sp4rKy: what is the problem then?
[05:03] <Xebitx> hmm
[05:03] <wfx>  echo 256 > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/prealloc does the trick
[05:03] <bob2> joneil: get rid of the marillat lines from your sources.list
[05:03] <wfx> it increase it to 256kbyte
[05:03] <Xebitx> I want to try pftp
[05:03] <joneil> I have already do that
[05:03] <Xebitx> bob2: I want to try pftp
[05:03] <wfx> thx by
[05:03] <occy> bob2: ahh, so it's "unfixable"
[05:03] <picochu> bob2: nah. it's okay. I know there are other distro i can use. without much trouble
[05:03] <bob2> Xebitx: ftp: /usr/bin/pftp
[05:03] <Sp4rKy> scizzo, when we try to install mplayer from marillat, we've warning about library
[05:04] <joneil> but when i want to install mplayer I have a problem
[05:04] <Xebitx> bob2: thx
[05:04] <bob2> occy: huh? no.
[05:04] <bob2> Xebitx: it's in the ftp package.
[05:04] <scizzo> Sp4rKy: what library?
[05:04] <joneil> i cant because it search somes dependences
[05:04] <bob2> joneil: so paste the error to #flood
[05:04] <bob2> picochu: until they get chased down
[05:04] <bob2> picochu: oh well, whatever you prefer
[05:04] <occy> anyhoo
[05:04] <joneil> ok
[05:04] <Ironfrost> All my desktop icons have vanished and I can't start the File Browser - is there any way to recover from this without having to log out then back in?
[05:04] <bob2> occy: because it's not nearly important enough to go in the topic
[05:04] <jasp> anyone here used the paid support from canonical? ... or any other paid support for ubuntu?
[05:04] <occy> bob2: heh
[05:04] <picochu> bob2: if that's the case, there's always other distros as well
[05:05] <Sp4rKy> scizzo, could you go to #flood plase
[05:05] <BockBilbo> i gotta go
[05:05] <bob2> picochu: ok!
[05:05] <Sp4rKy> scizzo, i put error here
[05:05] <bob2> people obsess over the tiniest things
[05:05] <BockBilbo> Amaranth, ill be back to tell you that ive posted that info on your program and to tell you the url
[05:05] <BockBilbo> bye
[05:05] <tritium> haritz, after updating, you should be able to get xmms.    He's quite helpful.
[05:06] <tritium> haritz, good :)
[05:06] <tritium> haritz, see you around.
[05:06] <thoreauputic> picochu: bob2 is like, one of the most knowledgeable people in the channel
[05:06] <haritz> tritium , but 0 % sir
[05:07] <scizzo> Sp4rKy: try to use mplayer-isomething
[05:07] <pont> bob2, is quite helpful
[05:07] <scizzo> Sp4rKy: depending on the architecture
[05:07] <occy> heck... bob2 is like a Freenode Icon.
[05:07] <occy> heh
[05:07] <scizzo> Sp4rKy: otherwise...you need to look for that library somewhere
[05:07] <Sp4rKy> scizzo, i'm on a x86 32bit
[05:07] <picochu> thoreauputic: regardless, there's no reason to brow beat me. just because I want to use mplayer without hassle
[05:07] <scizzo> Sp4rKy: uname -a
[05:07] <occy> ubuntu: cool nick.
[05:07] <occy> :)
[05:07] <pont> I don't think i will use ubuntu for developemnt
[05:07] <LISP> why not?
[05:08] <Sp4rKy> scizzo, please wait few sec
[05:08] <picochu> LISP: if you look at the available packages... for devel. it is still pretty much incomplete
[05:08] <ubuntu> Hi guys, I just installed UT2k4, and it doesn't want to work when I'm logged in as a normal user, but I can play it when I'm as root. I get the following error when I try running the game as a normal user:
[05:08] <bob2> picochu: for example?
[05:08] <ubuntu> Can't find 'ini:Engine.Engine.GameEngine' in configuration file
[05:08] <pont> LISP, because I have a gentoo box, and it seem much simpler ;)
[05:08] <joneil> uname -a result
[05:08] <picochu> pont: my point exactly ;)
[05:08] <pont> But i have to admin ubuntu works great on my iBook :)
[05:09] <Sp4rKy> no joneil, the result of "uname -a"  command
[05:09] <Sp4rKy> :)
[05:09] <joneil> looool
[05:09] <bob2> joneil: install mplayer-386
[05:09] <LISP> how long does it take to setup a stage one gentoo?
[05:09] <bob2> the output of uname is not useful here
[05:09] <LISP> i want to put it next to my ubu
[05:09] <picochu> LISP: you don't need to install from stage 1.
[05:09] <joneil> it's the same result with all the mplayer
[05:09] <pont> im doing C# at uni and was thinking about doing some muine development
[05:09] <joneil> uname -a apt-get install mplayer-custom
[05:09] <joneil> Reading package lists... Done
[05:09] <joneil> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:09] <joneil> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[05:09] <joneil> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[05:09] <joneil> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[05:09] <joneil> or been moved out of Incoming.
[05:10] <LISP> i want to, that's why i want gentoo, for speed
[05:10] <bob2> joneil: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[05:10] <joneil> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[05:10] <ctr> anyone know if it is possible to dual head a mac latop
[05:10] <joneil> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[05:10] <pont> somekinda lame xchat plugin thing would be good for a start i think
[05:10] <joneil> that package should be filed.
[05:10] <joneil> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[05:10] <joneil> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:10] <bob2> joneil: dude, don't do that again
[05:10] <occy> joneil: #flood please
[05:10] <joneil>   mplayer-custom: Depends: libavcodec2 but it is not going to be installed
[05:10] <joneil> E: Broken packages
[05:10] <scizzo> joneil: what are you doing!
[05:10] <joneil> ok
[05:10] <scizzo> joneil: I said uname -a
[05:10] <scizzo> joneil: nothing else
[05:10] <bob2> joneil: you've been told not to before
[05:10] <joneil> soory
[05:10] <bob2> joneil: now paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[05:10] <occy> joneil: or you can use pastebin.com
[05:10] <joneil> ok, really sorry
[05:10] <adam_> SeamusLP, hey bud
[05:10] <haritz> umm guys, connecting time out while i updating.
[05:10] <adam_> that didnt work out so well
[05:11] <picochu> LISP: install  gentoo from stage 1 won't guarantee you the fastest performance
[05:11] <occy> joneil: It happens to everyone, just don't do it again. :)
[05:11] <pont> although i don't think this dist achives its goals of being uber user frendly, I do like the fact that its simple and uses gnome :)
[05:11] <LISP> picochu: why not?...
[05:11] <bob2> LISP: meh, using gentoo for performance is pretty silly
[05:11] <bob2> pont: please file bugs if you find problems, so they can be fixed
[05:11] <thoreauputic> umm... /join #gentoo, guys?
[05:11] <pont> bob2, Where can i do that ?
[05:11] <bob2> pont: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[05:12] <pont> bob2, Theres some things I think could be better, can i post them there ?
[05:12] <mischa> which tree is unstable since hoary became stable?
[05:12] <bob2> joneil: so, you didn't get rid of the marillat line
[05:12] <bob2> mischa: breezy, which doesn't exist yet
[05:12] <Bazzi> mischa breezy
[05:12] <_phate_> is there away to play dvds in ubuntu?
[05:13] <LISP> bob2: pretty silly? i had another compile based distro, crux...why else should i use gentoo?
[05:13] <bob2> joneil: get rid of it, run 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get install mplayer-386'
[05:13] <bob2> _phate_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:13] <geronimo_> but no sound
[05:13] <perl1> how long will an dvd image stay online - i mean, will i be able to fetch it with 64k isdn or will it be gone before i finish
[05:13] <perl1> ?
[05:13] <mischa> Bazzi: because i don't get updates anymore:)
[05:13] <bob2> LISP: because it gives you a tiny boost, if anything.  some benhcmarks showed debian being faster than gentoo.
[05:13] <Bazzi> mischa give the devs a little rest
[05:13] <Bazzi> hoary will be updated,
[05:13] <bob2> pont: the release isos? months.
[05:13] <joneil> bob2. I have already do it
[05:13] <floater>  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5/include -> The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.10-5) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.10-5-k7).  Even if the module were to compile successfully,it would not load into the running kernel. And then: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-k7/include/ --> The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.10) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.10-5-k7).  Even if the module were to compile successfully
[05:13] <mischa> Bazzi: :)
[05:14] <LISP> hmmmm..strange
[05:14] <bob2> joneil: not according to what you showed us
[05:14] <joneil> so what can i do
[05:14] <joneil> just a update
[05:14] <floater> where does that my line end ?
[05:14] <bob2> floater: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:14] <picochu> LISP: bob2's right...
[05:14] <bob2> joneil: it's really frustrating when you ignore what people tell you
[05:14] <picochu> LISP: so it wall depends
[05:14] <mischa> Bazzi: now i know why there were so many updates every day. it had to become stable :)
[05:14] <bob2> joneil: I've told you twice how to fix your problem
[05:14] <bob2> joneil: 01:13:00           bob2 | joneil: get rid of it, run 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get install mplayer-386'
[05:14] <Bazzi> mischa true. withtin the last 3 weeks they updated each package like 10 times ;)
[05:15] <floater> bob2: I have done that, maybe if I reinstall them ?
[05:15] <LISP> than i still got a killer distro :D...the kiddie in me is happy
[05:15] <bob2> floater: you need to be running the same kernel version
[05:15] <pont> bob2, Before i post my bug report.. May i ask you a question ?
[05:15] <picochu> LISP: but the reason i use gentoo is that it makes devel a lot easier.. partially because the source is always there :)
[05:15] <bob2> floater: what does 'uname -r' print out?
[05:15] <joneil> bob2, sorry but i'm french and it's not easy do understand everything
[05:15] <bob2> pont: ok?
[05:16] <floater> 2.6.10-5-k7 prints out that
[05:16] <hdo781> What does it mean when people put an exclamation point in front of a word?  Like this: !faq
[05:16] <pont> bob2, Is ubuntu spost to add your user to the sudo list
[05:16] <_phate_> bob2, is that current for haory?
[05:16] <bob2> joneil: please ask for clarification then, or go to #ubuntu-fr
[05:16] <zAo^> can anyone send tell me where to get libCurl3 version <= 7.12-3? Thanks. I need it; the latest got a bug. TA!
[05:16] <pont> bob2, cause as i can tell it dosn't, and i think it should by default
[05:16] <bob2> hdo781: nothing in here.  in some other IRC channels it triggers a bot to spit out some piece of information.
[05:16] <bob2> pont: the initial user? yes.
[05:16] <bob2> pont: it doesn't add subsequent ones.
[05:17] <bob2> _phate_: is what current for hoary?
[05:17] <haritz> umm guys, 20 % for my updating ^_^
[05:17] <LISP> picochu: what kind devel?
[05:17] <pont> bob2, Hmm... didn't work for me
[05:17] <woody> hi everyone!
[05:17] <haritz> how long is it?
[05:17] <pont> bob2, Perhaps it dosn't do it on the PPC build ?
[05:17] <_phate_> bob2, that restricted wiki page
[05:17] <majic> If I add universe to the Ubuntu Update Manager it will promply forget my settings if I go to check again if that repository has been added.
[05:17] <picochu> LISP: what do you mean?
[05:17] <floater> this thing ain't working and I don't see any solution
[05:17] <bob2> pont: no, it's extremely unlikely that's the problem
[05:17] <floater> nor does anyone it seems... vmware sucks
[05:17] <pont> hmm
[05:17] <bob2> floater: it sounds very much like a vmware problem, sorry
[05:17] <thoreauputic> pont: it does - perhaps you used the "expert" install?
[05:17] <LISP> c? php?...
[05:17] <bob2> _phate_: it should be
[05:18] <pont> thoreauputic, that i did
[05:18] <floater> it doesn't understand that I am running the correct kernel
[05:18] <pont> thoreauputic, So it dosn't do it in the expert install ?
[05:18] <woody> who have some * ubuntu * wallpaper ?????
[05:18] <mercurus> well, I have to say Hoary is very smooth ...
[05:18] <mercurus> and I even have an nVidia card ...
[05:18] <Sp4rKy> bob2, please, we've tried all you said for codec install, we'd seen Restricted Format, we'd tried to install mplayer-386... But it's the same...
[05:18] <thoreauputic> pont: I know some people who used expert install didn't get the option, and got a root user
[05:18] <bob2> woody: everyone who has ubuntu installed
[05:19] <picochu> LISP: practically everything i guess. I do HPC stuffs. so, in my case it's C/C++ and fortran. Gentoo has quite an impressive range of devel software. PS: i think we should bring this conversation to private.
[05:19] <bob2> Sp4rKy: er?
[05:19] <pont> thoreauputic, I got an option to add another user, just didn't make it a sudoer
[05:19] <bob2> Sp4rKy: are you making the same mistake as joneil is?
[05:19] <Sp4rKy> yes, i'm "with" joneil
[05:19] <LISP> fortran? i thought it died a long, long, time ago (nirvana-the man who sold the world :P)
[05:19] <bob2> picochu: can you name one piece of free development software that isn't in ubuntu?
[05:19] <thoreauputic> pont: right - you get to add the user with visudo , since you are an "expert" *grin*
[05:19] <bob2> LISP: not in the scientific world
[05:20] <picochu> bob2: OGRE
[05:20] <bob2> Sp4rKy: then, someone needs to translate for joneil, since I've told him 3 times how to fix it
[05:20] <pont> thoreauputic, Dang, I thought it would just give me more options :p
[05:20] <picochu> bob2: OpenSceneGraph
[05:20] <picochu> bob2: i could go on and on
[05:20] <thoreauputic> pont: the default install makes the first user a member of sudoers
[05:20] <joneil> okey i can apt mplayer now thx
[05:20] <pont> thoreauputic, I see
[05:20] <Sp4rKy> bob2, i'm really sorry, could you repeat a last
[05:20] <bob2> Sp4rKy: no
[05:21] <pont> thoreauputic, well thats quite annoying
[05:21] <bob2> Sp4rKy: /lastlog bob2
[05:21] <woody> I want another wallpaper
[05:21] <LISP> joneil: don't apt mplayer
[05:21] <bob2> woody: I want a pony
[05:21] <picochu> LISP: fortran is pretty much still alive in scientific computing
[05:21] <LISP> joneil: compile it
[05:21] <aya> Hi, can anybody help me with an ldap authentication pb ?
[05:21] <Sp4rKy> bob2, thx, i don't know this command :)
[05:21] <bob2> LISP: please don't advise people to compile things for no reason
[05:21] <LISP> it's not for no reaseon
[05:21] <LISP> i didn't just say so
[05:21] <woody> ...............
[05:21] <bob2> LISP: unless it will a) actually help them (in this case it won't) and b) you will support them when they screw it up
[05:22] <bob2> LISP: what's the point of compiling mplayer?
[05:22] <LISP> ubuntu mplayer doesn', as far as i've seen have gui enabled, or i'm in a big mess :P
[05:22] <bob2> woody: install the ubuntu-artwork packages
[05:22] <bob2> LISP: gmplayer
[05:22] <aya> I'm using warty. I can login into my system with a normal or ldap user, so authentication works, but when I reboot, the system freeze on each "chown 0:0", searching user in ldap, but not in local. I have "passwd: files ldap" in my /etc/nsswitch.conf
[05:22] <pont> get vlc :)
[05:22] <LISP> and furthermore, i get all sorts of problems
[05:22] <woody> thanks!
[05:23] <floater> heh, does vmware.com work for you guys ?
[05:23] <bob2> LISP: for example?
[05:23] <LISP> problems with fullscreen
[05:23] <floater> like I wasn't already mad at them, their website is even down for me
[05:23] <jobezone> k
[05:23] <bob2> LISP: if you have problems with packages in ubuntu, please file bugs
[05:23] <LISP> i don't think it has all the codecs
[05:23] <pont> everyone should install 3ddesk, its the best fun since sliced bread
[05:23] <LISP> i'll post a bug report maybe
[05:23] <bob2> LISP: for example?
[05:24] <_phate_> how do I mount a NTFS partition so it mounts and is availible at boot up?
[05:24] <deception_inuk> pont: is 3ddesk in the repo's?
[05:24] <Sp4rKy> bye, thx for all
[05:24] <LISP> crappy fullscreen output
[05:24] <bob2> LISP: which means?
[05:24] <bob2> _phate_: that's not in the FAQ?
[05:24] <picochu> LISP:  they've removed some of the codes because of "patent" issues....
[05:24] <pont> deception_inuk, Sorry to sound ignorent but whats a repo
[05:24] <LISP> and that's my problem
[05:24] <woody> but It's only two wallpapers .
[05:24] <adam_> SeamusLP, ok im back
[05:24] <LISP> because you have to recompile the package :|
[05:25] <bob2> LISP: please name one that's removed
[05:25] <deception_inuk> pont: thats ok, i mean repositries, apt-get
[05:25] <imperfect-> _phate_: It's in fstab
[05:25] <_phate_> bob2, there is an FAQ? where?
[05:25] <imperfect-> _phate_: I dunno how good NTFS driver is though... might wanna do it ro
[05:25] <imperfect-> Can I ftp install hoary?
[05:26] <pont> deception_inuk, then yes :) it is
[05:26] <bob2> imperfect-: you mean install over the network? sure.
[05:26] <picochu> _phate_  AFIAK NFTS is still read only
[05:26] <imperfect-> bob2: Is there a ISO for net install?
[05:26] <deception_inuk> pont: but you need to use gnome by the looks of the description =(
[05:26] <picochu> _phate_ write at your own risk
[05:26] <LISP> bob2: i don't know the exact ones, but i suppose that't he problem, ask picochu for details :p
[05:26] <bob2> _phate_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/
[05:26] <imperfect-> picohu: it's rw -- it's just dangerous ;)
[05:26] <pont> deception_inuk, nah you don't
[05:27] <bob2> LISP: guessing doesn't help, please file bugs if you have well-defined complaints
[05:27] <pont> deception_inuk, Well you shouldn't anyway..
[05:27] <bob2> imperfect-: don't think so
[05:27] <imperfect-> I need a firewire cage that supports > 127G
[05:27] <imperfect-> bob2: dont think so?
[05:27] <imperfect-> bob2: ah, yeah
[05:27] <imperfect-> bob2: I guess I can just grab a hoary iso
[05:27] <deception_inuk> pont: ok, good stuff, ill install and get back to you
[05:27] <pont> deception_inuk, You will be having so much fun
[05:28] <LISP> is anyone here using kde default on ubu? or just using kubu?
[05:28] <plb> just installed hoary sound works in gnome but if i try to play a stream in say rhymbox i get errors
[05:28] <Riddell> LISP: same thing
[05:28] <bob2> LISP: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde installed
[05:28] <deception_inuk> pont: ok install, now what do i do =p ?
[05:28] <LISP> that's all? i hoped for more :)
[05:28] <deception_inuk> pont: *installed
[05:28] <pont> deception_inuk, run 3ddesk
[05:28] <bob2> LISP: I'm sure they'll take patches from you
[05:28] <pont> deception_inuk, on each workspace
[05:29] <LISP> maybe, when i get good enough at hacking...
[05:29] <pont> deception_inuk, bind it to a key combo :)
[05:29] <LISP> in about a decade or so =))
[05:29] <picochu> LISP: nah it won't take that long
[05:29] <deception_inuk> pont: such as? =P
[05:29] <wastrel> aloha where do i go for warty->hoary upgrade instructions?
[05:30] <LISP> to synaptic :D
[05:30] <LISP> wastrel - to synaptic :D
[05:30] <picochu> LSIP: synaptic is really cool tho
[05:30] <pont> dunno im using ctrl alt l
[05:30] <LISP> that's what i'm doing right now
[05:30] <pont> for some insane reson :P
[05:30] <bob2> wastrel: wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[05:30] <imperfect-> Anyone know of a fast hoary iso site?
[05:30] <wastrel> thanks
[05:31] <bob2> imperfect-: cdimage.ubuntu.com has more bandwidth than jesus
[05:31] <deception_inuk> pont: ive loaded 3ddesk in each w/s but nothing happens when switchin..=(
[05:31] <pont> heh
[05:31] <imperfect-> bob2: I see.
[05:31] <pont> like nothing shows up ?
[05:31] <deception_inuk> nope nothing shows... ill try in gnome
[05:31] <LISP> wastrel: i'm not kidding, that's the deb philosphy..using twice a installer is not good
[05:31] <aya> I need help with a problem in nsswitch.conf
[05:31] <deception_inuk> pont: brb
[05:32] <pont> deception_inuk, might wanna look at /etc/3ddesktop
[05:32] <imperfect-> bob2: im just seeing torrents on the ftp.. am i looking in the wrong place?
[05:32] <pont> deception_inuk, might wanna look at /etc/3ddesktop/3ddesktop.conf even
[05:33] <bob2> imperfect-: yes
[05:33] <thoreauputic> pont: he might want to run 3ddesk --acquire first ( see 3ddesk --help)
[05:34] <LISP> does anyone know a good book about network security?
[05:34] <wastrel> mmm downloading 559 MB
[05:34] <paulfox> when you try to kill an app from the command line with killall appname, but the process still runs, whats a better way of killing it?
[05:34] <LISP> sorry for asking here
[05:34] <pont> thoreauputic, Oh ok, I didn't need to do that
[05:34] <LISP> or at least a good channel
[05:34] <wastrel> paulfox: kill -9 <processid>
[05:35] <bob2> paulfox: some processes are unkillable
[05:35] <paulfox> wastrel, cheers done
[05:35] <paulfox> it's just gnome-launch-box
[05:35] <bob2> imperfect-: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hoary/
[05:35] <pont> does anyone know why gnome changed from sawmill to metacity
[05:35] <LISP> bob2: some processes are unkillable?
[05:35] <bob2> LISP: yes
[05:35] <wastrel> sawmill was too configurable ;]
[05:35] <zico> hello. WHat is my default root password?
[05:35] <LISP> not even as root?
[05:35] <bob2> pont: they wanted something simpler
[05:35] <wastrel> zico: you don't have one
[05:35] <LISP> zico: there is no such
[05:35] <bob2> zico: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:36] <bob2> zico: this is in the faq...
[05:36] <LISP> zico: sudo passwd root
[05:36] <bob2> LISP: yes, even as root
[05:36] <LISP> bob2: have to stop trying then :p
[05:36] <paulfox> bob2, would they be kernel processes?
[05:36] <picochu> LISP: kernel processes
[05:36] <bob2> paulfox: no, user ones
[05:36] <pont> bob2, Oh ok, both are alot better then when they used to use Enlightenment :P~
[05:37] <paulfox> bob2, stressed out much?
[05:37] <bob2> paulfox: if they get stuck waiting for the kernel to do something, like access a broken network filesystem or something
[05:37] <bob2> paulfox: hrm?
[05:37] <paulfox> bob2, you said user processes are unkillable, i thought you were being sarcastic :)
[05:37] <bob2> oh, hah
[05:38] <john> Hello!
[05:38] <zico> then whats my default sudo password?
[05:38] <pont> does ubuntu work close with gnome devel?
[05:39] <paulfox> zico, your user password
[05:39] <zico> ok thx
[05:40] <john> I am updating to hoary now! I am very pleased!
[05:40] <john> As the newbie I am...
[05:40] <bob2> pont: yes
[05:40] <LISP> john: me not yet :p
[05:40] <wastrel> how do i check with apt whether a package is installed?
[05:40] <john> LISP: What do you mean?
[05:40] <LISP> i want firefox 1.03 rss
[05:40] <bob2> wastrel: dpkg -l blah
[05:41] <LISP> :)
[05:41] <thoreauputic> wastrel: apt-cache policy <package> wil tell you
[05:41] <wastrel> thanks
[05:41] <picochu> LISP: you are a tough customer to please
[05:41] <LISP> picochu: why not?
[05:41] <picochu> picochu: oops i left out ;)
[05:41] <wastrel> ok thanks guys
[05:41] <rijad> whats the best mediaplayer for linux?
[05:41] <LISP> picochu:after trying some distros, none is perfect :(
[05:41] <rijad> ubuntu i mean
[05:42] <LISP> rijad: mplayer
[05:42] <bob2> rijad: there's no "best"
[05:42] <bob2> mplayer tends to be the least hassle, tho
[05:42] <thoreauputic> rijad: some prefer xine-ui or totem-xine
[05:42] <jordanau> rijad, what do you want to do
[05:42] <rijad> well which works the best?
[05:42] <picochu> LISP: just like girlfriends, distro arent perfect
[05:42] <LISP> rijad: for me xine does not work, i have to work on it :p
[05:42] <LISP> picochu: and like girls, there's a lot of work involved =))
[05:42] <bob2> rijad: there's still no "best"
[05:42] <jordanau> rijad, i like gmplayer (is it the same as mplayer?)
[05:43] <thoreauputic> rijad: try them and decide which you prefer
[05:43] <prova> hello, i cannot connect using pppoe, the firts time i ran ubuntu it worked, now i tried using pppoeconf, plog etc, ppp0 seems to be up, i receive my ip address  but cannot ping anything outside the network.
[05:43] <rijad> hmm mplayer doesn't want to plat mp3's :S
[05:43] <jordanau> rijad, you have to download something special for mp3 playback
[05:43] <LISP> rijad: it's a movie player, as far as i now
[05:43] <LISP> rijad: xmms
[05:43] <prova> Network utilities tell me that ppp0 is down ..
[05:43] <picochu> LISP: mplayer plays EVERYTHING ;)
[05:43] <bob2> rijad: sure it will play mp3s
[05:43] <bob2> jordanau: not for mplayer
[05:44] <LISP> picochu: but why bother? ;)
[05:44] <jordanau> bob2, gotcha thanks
[05:44] <imperfect-> I've had good luck w/ vlc
[05:44] <jordanau> rijad, ignore what i said
[05:44] <picochu> LISP: it makes a rather good CLI mp3/ogg player
[05:44] <imperfect-> ampache is the shizzle.
[05:44] <rijad> hmm it needs a plugin, or atlist that ehat the error mess says
[05:44] <LISP> rijad: wanna a cli player? :P
[05:44] <imperfect-> mpg123!
[05:45] <prova> please help.
[05:45] <thoreauputic> imperfect-: or mpg321 :)
[05:45] <deFrysk> prova, with ?
[05:45] <prova> hello, i cannot connect using pppoe, the firts time i ran ubuntu it worked, now i tried using pppoeconf, plog etc, ppp0 seems to be up, i receive my ip address  but cannot ping anything outside the network.
[05:46] <lkjasdf> hello all!
[05:46] <LISP> is there a way i can tell synaptic to install all packages suggested?
[05:46] <LISP> other than hacking it
[05:46] <lkjasdf> is there a known way the installer of 5.04 not affect the mbr and install grub on a floppy?
[05:46] <imperfect-> I think I'm going to use hoary here at work on my main PC
[05:46] <imperfect-> wonde rhow it'll go
[05:47] <rijad> hmm ok, a nother question: can you usa a ntfs-partion on ubuntu? how?
[05:47] <yahalom> anyone here use xfce w/ ubuntu?
[05:47] <bob2> rijad: you can read it fine
[05:47] <jordanau> rijad, you cant write to it
[05:47] <LISP> yahalom: i used too
[05:47] <MrNonchalant> LISP: as in, treat suggestions as dependencies?
[05:47] <rijad> well i can't see it at all :S
[05:47] <jordanau> did you follow the ubuntuguide?
[05:47] <LISP> yes, and recomended too
[05:48] <jordanau> rijad, i thin kit is on there
[05:48] <prova> rijad, or try affeine, it work well for me
[05:48] <jordanau> thin kit /think it
[05:48] <yahalom> LISP, i seem to be missing plugins, any ideas
[05:48] <rijad> don't remember the adress :S
[05:48] <MrNonchalant> LISP: there's a setting in prefernces that say something to that effect
[05:48] <jordanau> rijad, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[05:48] <picochu> bob2: one major gripe i have with utunbu install: There's no way for me to get out of the automatic installation procedure unless something goes wrong.
[05:48] <LISP> yahalom: plugins for?
[05:48] <LISP> yahalom: xfce? search xfce in synaptic
[05:49] <rijad> thxe1
[05:49] <MrNonchalant> LISP: Settings -> Preferences and it should be on the first tab
[05:49] <bob2> picochu: sure there is
[05:49] <thoreauputic> picochu: alt-F3
[05:49] <jordanau> rijad, That, the forum howtos, the introduction to linux, and manpages are your best friend
[05:49] <picochu> bob2: well it wasn't written on the screen
[05:49] <LISP> yahalom: try name and description
[05:49] <rijad> yeah
[05:49] <jordanau> rijad, and ubuntu wiki
[05:49] <LISP> yahalom: you should find all packages
[05:49] <jordanau> I just got four freaking shots in my arms
[05:49] <yahalom> LISP, i did
[05:49] <LISP> yahalom: xfce has goodies too
[05:49] <bob2> picochu: sure, because it's not something 95% of people care about
[05:50] <yahalom> LISP, how do i get goodies?
[05:50] <LISP> yahalom: what's missing?
[05:50] <picochu> bob2: still that's a poor excuse
[05:50] <imperfect-> rijad: mount -t ntfs ?
[05:50] <yahalom> LISP, there is no session plugin
[05:50] <thoreauputic> picochu: at the beginning, there's the option to see help
[05:50] <bob2> picochu: if you do for some reason (I'd be interested to know why), then boot with the expert option
[05:50] <bob2> picochu: it's not an excuse
[05:50] <yahalom> LISP, there is no workspaces plugin
[05:50] <picochu> bob2: in that case bob. why should people install linux.. after all that's not something 95% of people care about
[05:50] <bob2> picochu: it doesnt include my grandmother's chocolate pudding recipe on screen, either
[05:50] <bob2> picochu: that's a stupid argument
[05:50] <MrNonchalant> LISP: go to Settings -> Preferences and check "consider recommended packages as dependencies"
[05:51] <bob2> but meh
[05:51] <LISP> yahalom: i know it sounds lame, but right know i really can't help, you, i'm upgrading distro, cand i can't look it up in synaptic, but i promiss to check it
[05:51] <MrNonchalant> that might do it
[05:51] <LISP> mrnonchalant: thx
[05:51] <LISP> yahalom: they should be there
[05:51] <picochu> bob2: I consider that HCI design.
[05:51] <yahalom> LISP, not lame. its ok. thanx
[05:51] <LISP> yahalom: i used debian unstable, ubu's brother too
[05:52] <LISP> yahalom: and it had all of them
[05:52] <bob2> picochu: ok
[05:52] <LISP> yahalom: on ubu i haven't had the time yet
[05:52] <LISP> yahalom: to really install, and check out xfce, but i will, it's my favourite
[05:53] <yahalom> LISP, ok, i think some of the plugins might come with goodies
[05:53] <LISP> yahalom: i know they do
[05:53] <pont> what on linux takes advantage of 64bit ?
[05:53] <LISP> yahalom: do you have all repositories?
[05:53] <yahalom> LISP, ah ok, so i had to download the binary for that
[05:53] <pont> like athlon 64's
[05:53] <yahalom> LISP, yeah
[05:53] <bob2> pont: this isn't windows
[05:53] <picochu> pont larger memory address space
[05:53] <LISP> yahalom: then you should have all of xfce, it's impossible not too
[05:54] <pont> bob2, Really ?
[05:54] <yahalom> LISP, man i checked everything was xfce, maybe i need to look for workspace plugin?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> picochu: the startscreen of the installer has a number of options, with directions which keys to push...
[05:54] <bob2> pont: it's not as simple as 'what takes advantage of it'
[05:55] <picochu> thoreauputic: but once, I'm 1/2 way thru i can't backtrack
[05:55] <LISP> try it, though i doubt it, i remember as it being in another package, it's not named workspace plugin...
[05:55] <picochu> thoreauputic that's bad!
[05:55] <pont> bob2, well if it was windows the answer would be nothing :P~
[05:55] <_phate_> I have a Pentium III, will I get any benefit if I apt-get linux-686 over the default linux-i386?
[05:55] <LISP> yahalom: use name and description, that's what i always do
[05:55] <Xebitx> anyone know why mplayer freezes when I try to play an .avi file?
[05:55] <MrNonchalant> picochu: A graphical installer is on the list for the next release. Till then...
[05:56] <LISP> once i have everything on i'll try to give you full instructions
[05:56] <picochu> MrNonchalant: it is not a gui issue. Even debian installer gives me the option to backtrack
[05:56] <LISP> mrnonchalant: is that gui installer really necessary? ;)
[05:56] <yahalom> LISP, weird i installed everything, but then it deselected my xfce desktop environment, the pseudo package, should i get that?
[05:56] <reon> Question: I need to build a 32bit chroot, what repositories do I have to add or which ones are recommended by default ???
[05:57] <pont> picochu, How does  that help ? I can handle more pointers at once ?
[05:57] <shock_> I got a question dudes: hows the sleep support of the ubuntu kernel doing for the powerbook g4?
[05:57] <bob2> _phate_: some small amount, maybe
[05:57] <LISP> yahalom: if it doesn't uninstall everything else, probably :p
[05:57] <bob2> reon: it's not about repositores
[05:57] <reon> All I need is a URL/link pointing me in the right direction thanks!
[05:57] <shock_> i still got my custom debian kernel going but I'd be interested in some later improvements
[05:57] <_phate_> Xebitx, from what I understand .avi is a wrapper and not a specific file type
[05:58] <reon> bob2: I get a error when I follow the wiki/forum guide
[05:58] <LISP> _phate_: that's why i have avi :D
[06:00] <woody_> what's the best IRC client on ubuntu ??
[06:00] <ubuntu_> Is there something equivalent to kget in GNOME?
[06:00] <_phate_> woody, Xchat
[06:00] <ubuntu_> woody, x-chat is good.
[06:00] <LISP> kget is a frontend fo wget i supose?
[06:00] <_phate_> or BitchX
[06:00] <woody_> what's the version?  2.4.1 ?
[06:01] <ubuntu_> LISP, yep, looking for something like that but written with GNOME/GTK
[06:01] <_phate_> woody, yes
[06:01] <_phate_> thats what the current is
[06:01] <LISP> i'll look, though i still use wget
[06:01] <pont> ubuntu_, I have played around with one, cant remember the name tho sorry
[06:01] <pont> some exist tho :)
[06:02] <thoreauputic> d4l is "downloader for X" - not sure if it uses wget
[06:02] <woody_> thx
[06:02] <thoreauputic> oops --> d4x
[06:02] <LISP> tried d4x - nice
[06:02] <woody_> I like "proz"
[06:02] <_phate_> I have a Geforce2 Ultra (BladeRunner) is there a 3d driver for it? and how do I install it?
[06:02] <LISP> a download accelerator is what i'm missing
[06:03] <LISP> aget won't cut it for me
[06:03] <woody_> wget
[06:03] <ubuntu_> _phate_,  the nvidia drivers?
[06:03] <LISP> wget is just a non interactive downloader
[06:03] <woody_> It's powerful.
[06:03] <_phate_> ubuntu_, yes
[06:03] <thoreauputic> wget can fetch several streams - but it's nasty leech thing to do , really
[06:04] <yoni> Hi, I've just installed ubuntu and I have a few questions ..
[06:04] <ubuntu_> _phate_, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[06:04] <ubuntu_> yoni, ask away
[06:04] <LISP> it can divide the package and retrieve them? as a down accel?
[06:04] <yahalom> anyone know the site for the new ubuntu guide?
[06:04] <yoni> Firstly, how can i access my windows folders (in mandrake it used to be /mnt/win_c)
[06:04] <pont> thoreauputic, do you if you can limit the amount of open connections using tc or somthing
[06:04] <LISP> have to look it up in man
[06:04] <yoni> yahalom: israeli ? :)
[06:04] <ubuntu_> yoni, is it ntfs/fat32?
[06:04] <pont> from one ip
[06:04] <yahalom> yoni, ken
[06:04] <thoreauputic> LISP: wget has so many options...
[06:05] <LISP> thorea: i know
[06:05] <yoni> ubuntu_, ntfs
[06:05] <LISP> thorea: but don't know them all :P
[06:05] <yoni> yahalom, do you mean ubuntuguide.org
[06:05] <thoreauputic> LISP: heh - does anyone?
[06:05] <ubuntu_> yoni, you can mount it (very simple), but I don't think ntfs write has been implemented yet
[06:05] <yahalom> yoni, yes thanx man
[06:05] <yoni> ubuntu_, no writing is needed, only reading ..
[06:05] <jordanau> yeah http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[06:05] <LISP> thorea: if anyone knows all the options for tar i'm willing to eat my monitor ;)
[06:05] <jordanau> yoni, ^^^
[06:06] <yoni> thanks jordanau O_
[06:06] <pont> you can use captive ntfs for writing so im told
[06:06] <LISP> thorea: EXCEPT THE DEVELOPER :d
[06:06] <LISP> :D
[06:06] <_phate_> ubuntu_, does that work for a geforce2?
[06:06] <SeamusLP> menu editor
[06:06] <thoreauputic> LISP: or screen ;) I gave up after 38 pages of the man "page"
[06:07] <LISP> thorea: bash is good too ;)
[06:07] <LISP> is it true that x uses max 24b of color?
[06:07] <ubuntu_> _phate_, not sure. It works for my gf2 mx. I'm fairly sure it'll work with the ultra. Check the nvidia website
[06:07] <LISP> i thought they were 24 plus the implicit 8 of transp
[06:08] <daniels> 34bpp is a crock
[06:08] <paulfox> any cdwriting pro's in here? :) i'm trying to write an audio cd with gnomebaker and graveman, but they both just eject the disk when it comes to writing
[06:08] <mjg59> LISP: Currently, yes. Once there's more hardware supporting stuff like 36 bit colour, that may change
[06:08] <devdude> wogwon
[06:08] <mjg59> LISP: There's up to 32 bits of data per pixel. Only 24 bits of that are colour.
[06:08] <devdude> what is kubuntu?
[06:08] <LISP> mgj59: i know the theory
[06:09] <LISP> mgj59: just wanted to know if x was using other terminology
[06:09] <mjg59> X supports 32 bits per pixel, but not 32 bits of colour per pixel
[06:09] <pont> weard
[06:09] <LISP> mgj59: because win includes the transparency
[06:09] <mjg59> So it'll be defined as 24 bit colour even if you're using 32 bits per pixel
[06:09] <LISP> mgj59: i knew that
[06:09] <LISP> was unsure if x was using 16 for color and 8 for transp
[06:10] <paulfox> here's the output from a filed gnomebaker burn. any ideas? http://www.pastebin.com/270023
[06:10] <LISP> mjg59: win says 32b for color, and i'm sure they're cheating :P
[06:11] <LISP> mjg59: txh for clearing it though
[06:11] <LISP> about cdwriting: which is the safest cd burning program? with gui i mean
[06:11] <LISP> xcdroast is any good?
[06:12] <jordanau> LISP, gnomebaker
[06:12] <thoreauputic> xcdroast works: gnomebaker is nice and works here
[06:12] <SeamusLP> LISP:  k3b is good if you're a kde guy
[06:13] <LISP> seamuslp: not kde...xfce, gnome if forced to :P
[06:13] <LISP> seamuslp: xcd says that thing about not having scsi
[06:13] <LISP> seamuslp: is it really so dangerous?
[06:14] <Amaranth> SeamusLP: goldfish woke up, save me!
[06:14] <Amaranth> LISP: Don't use xcdroast
[06:14] <thoreauputic> LISP: if you point it at /dev/hdc or whatever, it burns OK
[06:14] <Amaranth> LISP: gnomebaker and k3b are so much better it isn't even funny
[06:14] <SeamusLP> Amaranth: from what?  His gentoo fanboyism?
[06:14] <Amaranth> SeamusLP: hehe, he seems to be in this channel
[06:14] <LISP> seamuslp: amaranth: i'll try gnomebaker, but i don't want gnome just jor it
[06:15] <SeamusLP> Well oopse
[06:15] <LISP> amaranth: same for k3b
[06:15] <Amaranth> LISP: What wm are you using?
[06:15] <SeamusLP> LISP:  gnome goes nice with XFCE, they're both gtk based
[06:15] <Amaranth> yeah
[06:15] <LISP> amaranth: right noe gnome :D
[06:15] <yoni> ubuntuguide.org is the best help site ever O_O
[06:15] <LISP> amaranth: i know xfce is gtk based
[06:16] <LISP> amaranth: but getting 300megs of gnome, or so...
[06:16] <neighborlee> hi....I booted this am fresh to find my 'password' no longer working to login and i'm POSITIVE i'm typing it right...anyone else seeing this..if not how on earth do I get back in ??? (sigh) <
[06:16] <LISP> amaranth: xfce is small & fast
[06:16] <LISP> neigh: forget root, use sudo :P
[06:16] <neighborlee> LISP: no I mean 'login' as in I can't login to desktop
[06:17] <LISP> neigh: enter as your user
[06:17] <neighborlee> I can't
[06:17] <LISP> neigh: everybody had that shock
[06:17] <LISP> neigh: what????
[06:17] <neighborlee> it wont take my password <<
[06:17] <neighborlee> thats right
[06:17] <aurax> hello
[06:17] <SeamusLP> LISP:  XFCE is small and fast.  Using graveman will just mean it will take longer for it to load :P  Not going to bog down your whole system just by having gnome installed
[06:17] <thoreauputic> LISP:  type apt-cache depends gnomebaker to see what it needs
[06:17] <neighborlee> LISP: all of a sudden this am my password isn't working any longer and i'm positive im typing it right
[06:17] <LISP> thore: good one
[06:17] <SeamusLP> Take longer for graveman to load, I mean
[06:17] <cusco> Im listening to xmms, and when I stop, I hear all the noises from aMSN that where suposed to play
[06:18] <LISP> neigh: so you can't use your desktop?
[06:18] <LISP> neigh: at all?
[06:18] <LISP> neigh: user/root?
[06:19] <aurax> does anyone knows how to install a laser printer on ubuntu warty using print server
[06:19] <LISP> seamuslp: nasty one :>
[06:19] <neighborlee> LISP: root wont login either
[06:19] <MistaED> lousy doom 3 doesn't change the res back when exiting
[06:19] <nubbe> when I try to enter text into forum posts, typeaheadfind kicks in (really annoying) any way to get around? except disabling typeahad...?
[06:19] <thoreauputic> cusco: yeah, when xmms stops system sounds get played
[06:19] <LISP> neigh: so no you're in the console? or what?
[06:19] <MistaED> any reasons why?
[06:19] <nubbe> using firefox
[06:19] <neighborlee> LISP: something borked something really bad apparantly ..and I realy dont want to have to backup my stuff via ftp at the shell LOL
[06:19] <neighborlee> LISP: hahah
[06:19] <neighborlee> LISP: i'm in windows atm..I got frustrated and bailed
[06:20] <cusco> thoreauputic: can't they be played while xmms is playing?
[06:20] <cmug> n00b: what is the password for ubuntu on the livecd
[06:20] <neighborlee> LISP: although I can always go back and use that nasty irssi
[06:20] <LISP> neigh: i don't know how it could have did something, mayeb you messed up :(
[06:20] <cmug> i closed the lid of my laptop and now it asks for a password
[06:20] <Ben2004uk> i think its ubuntu
[06:20] <neighborlee> LISP: nope i'm positive..I typed it with one finger to be sure and its not taking it any longer ;(
[06:20] <cmug> nope
[06:20] <Ben2004uk> i did know it :)
[06:20] <cmug> ubuntu/ubuntu is denied
[06:21] <SeamusLP> Amaranth:  You have a web site for your menu editor, right?
[06:21] <thoreauputic> cusco: it appears not ( at least here) I assume system sounds are using gstreamer or something, and xmms isn't (just guessing - I don't really know)
[06:21] <cn> someone knows where to get transcode + dvdrip package for hoary 64bit?
[06:21] <LISP> neigh: now, i meant you did something to the system
[06:21] <neighborlee> LISP: as I say..odd thing is I did not change it...
[06:21] <ubuntu_> cmug, wouldn't it just be your user password?
[06:21] <nubbe> cmug, what happens if u just hit enter?
[06:21] <cmug> ubuntu_, livecd
[06:21] <cmug> nubbe, it says "Login canceled"
[06:21] <LISP> neigh: enter in recovery mode
[06:21] <ubuntu_> Oh
[06:21] <LISP> neigh: as root
[06:21] <nubbe> k
[06:21] <LISP> neigh: then passwd user
[06:21] <thoreauputic> cusco: if I play mp3 with rhythmbox, system sounds remain unmuted
[06:21] <neighborlee> LISP: nope..i've been in windows lately due to this game I use for which has no game e ditor equivalent atm for linux...so nope i've done nothing..I wonder if using reiserfs was a BAD idea
[06:21] <cusco> rhythmbox is good?
[06:22] <cusco> gonna try that
[06:22] <cusco> thanks
[06:22] <LISP> neigh: not likely, reiser is GOOD
[06:22] <neighborlee> LISP: i'm afraid that is no possible..I can NOT  login cause my password isn't being taken ;(...not root or user
[06:22] <neighborlee> LISP: I hope your right ;-)
[06:22] <LISP> neigh: you can't login as root in gnome
[06:22] <thoreauputic> cusco: you'll need gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:22] <neighborlee> LISP: correct
[06:22] <cusco> thoreauputic: I do have it
[06:22] <LISP> neigh: but in console you can
[06:22] <aurax> so anyone got experience with print servers and stuff
[06:22] <thoreauputic> cusco: OK
[06:22] <dieffel> hi all! What newsreader would you recommend for ubuntu/gnome??
[06:22] <neighborlee> LISP: nope not in either console OR desktop
[06:22] <LISP> neigh: have you set a new root passwd?
[06:23] <neighborlee> LISP: nope..
[06:23] <yonil> problem: once i hit "play" on xmms it get stuck .... :(
[06:23] <cusco> THANKS lol
[06:23] <LISP> neigh: YOU'RE DOOMED :p
[06:23] <thoreauputic> dieffel: pan
[06:23] <neighborlee> LISP: thats what is so scary..i've reset nothing ;(
[06:23] <neighborlee> LISP: tell me about it
[06:23] <Ben2004uk> aurax: some, not much
[06:23] <Amaranth> SeamusLP: it's on the ubuntu forums
[06:23] <neighborlee> LISP: sigh
[06:23] <dieffel> thoreauputic, ok i'll try that
[06:23] <cusco> neighborlee: can't you go on recovery mode? why?
[06:23] <LISP> neigh: c'mon, a reinstall is quick
[06:23] <neighborlee> cusco: I tried that..NO GO  because it still needs password to do anything
[06:23] <yonil> where can i configure my sound ?
[06:24] <LISP> neigh: i did plenty a boo-boo,and got back on my feet again
[06:24] <neighborlee> LISP: yeah but all my emails and stuff...im' going to have to 'backup' somehow first
[06:24] <cusco> neighborlee: a root password?
[06:24] <queuetue> Does anyone know of a SFA (sales force automation) tool for linux? Tracks customers/prospects and includes a "tickler" system for workflow management?
[06:24] <aurax> Ben2004uk, i got trendet printserver and xerox phase 3116
[06:24] <cusco> shouldn't have set one...
[06:24] <neighborlee> cusco: no passwords are being taken
[06:24] <prova> hello, i cannot connect using pppoe http://tnet.no/paste/825112610886, could help?
[06:24] <neighborlee> cusco: i'm looking at a reinstall and it might not be ubuntu if I do
[06:24] <cusco> ok..
[06:24] <thoreauputic> neighborlee: use  init=/bin/bash
[06:24] <LISP> use a livecd or something
[06:24] <neighborlee> i'm sick of this
[06:24] <LISP> to backup the data as a whole
[06:25] <neighborlee> I can backup via ftp ,,its just a major pita ;-)...oh well
[06:25] <LISP> neigh: don't ditch ubu, next time set the root passwd, and let root login via gdm
[06:25] <neighborlee> thoreauputic: ?
[06:25] <krypt0s> "It will ask to install a bootloader called grub into the master boot record of the active hard drive. As several posts here have noted, there may be problems with XP after doing this." I read this. Is this an issues when dual booting?. If it is I kind of have to know as this is the only PC I have to hand and if I screw it up I can't get in touch with ubuntu support x_x
[06:25] <neighborlee> LISP: well I 'do' have a root password
[06:25] <yonil> you guys ? how can i configure my sound .. its not working :(
[06:25] <LISP> neigh: did you let root login via gdm?
[06:25] <neighborlee> LISP: thats the odd thing..its not taking it for some reason just like it wont take my regular user account passwd ;(..
[06:26] <neighborlee> LISP: I know it makes no sense but that is whats happening
[06:26] <neighborlee> LISP: I can't login with root OR user anywhere
[06:26] <neighborlee> LISP: and as I say im positive I changed nothing..something has happened during a update it had to have
[06:26] <cusco> yonil: try alsamixer
[06:26] <LISP> neigh: i don't know... it's a dead end
[06:27] <LISP> neigh: backup via boot/live cd, to another partition
[06:27] <prova> neighborlee, linux single?
[06:27] <thoreauputic> neighborlee: sounds obvious I know but - caps lock ?
[06:27] <neighborlee> LISP: sadly yes..I held out hope there was some unknown 'fix' I wasn't thinking of ;-))
[06:27] <neighborlee> thoreauputic: nope
[06:27] <neighborlee> thoreauputic: good idea though
[06:27] <prova> neighborlee, access from a live and change youur /etc/passwd
[06:27] <neighborlee> prova: hmm
[06:27] <mrjive> hi *
[06:27] <neighborlee> prova: are you sure this is possible ?
[06:28] <prova> why should not?
[06:28] <LISP> prova: made me look silly, i deserved it :P
[06:28] <prova> is a common file, you just need to add some line or modify the md5
[06:28] <prova> hehe
[06:28] <mrjive> does anyone know how can i enable postfix to listen to the local network and not only on the localhost?
[06:28] <mrjive> ciao prova
[06:29] <lamont> mrjive: warty or hoary>/
[06:29] <lamont> ?
[06:29] <neighborlee> prova: I dont think ill have 'access' to /etc/password unless I can provide my 'own' password for that file
[06:29] <mrjive> mmm now i'm on hoary but it happens also on warty
[06:29] <lamont> (warty: /etc/postfix/master.cf, search for <IP_ADDRESS>; hoary: main.cf, final line)
[06:30] <LISP> neigh: not so - you'll look at it from another root
[06:30] <devdude> bye sucka
[06:30] <prova> neighborlee, what are you talinkg about? You just have to mount the partition -rw and then modify the file.
[06:30] <devdude> its been real
[06:30] <LISP> neigh: they'll be just other filer
[06:30] <lamont> mrjive: if you installed warty, then you need to do master.cf, you may also need to do main.cf
[06:30] <neighborlee> prova: modify a file that a specifici user 'owns' with a livecd ...your crazy
[06:31] <lamont> mrjive: comment out the inet_interfaces = .... line
[06:31] <neighborlee> prova: that would be secure for linux as a whole how ?LOL
[06:31] <prova> rotfl
[06:32] <yonil> cusco, in alsamixer how can i set something that's off - on ?
[06:32] <thoreauputic> yonil: m is the toggle for mute/unmute
[06:32] <yonil> i can hear sounds but in really really low volume (altough its set to 100%) - any ideas?
[06:32] <neighborlee> net split net split LOL
[06:32] <prova> yonil, alsamixer ?
[06:33] <cmug> ok i got it with sudo passwd ubuntu
[06:33] <mrjive> lamont: and on hoary? now i'm on a hoary machine
[06:33] <synd> xine engine failed to start.
[06:33] <synd> No demuxer found - stream format not recognised.
[06:33] <lamont> neighborlee: if you boot the livecd, open a root term window, mount the file systems, and chroot into the root partition, then you can change the password....
[06:33] <synd> ??
[06:33] <thoreauputic> neighborlee: fact is, anyone with access to the machine can do this anyway
[06:33] <lamont> mrjive: if you upgraded to hoary, then you probably need to edit master.cf
[06:33] <lamont> mrjive: for hoary, main.cf -> comment out inet_interfaces = ...
[06:34] <mrjive> lamont: thanks i'll go and try
[06:34] <lamont> thoreauputic: yep... phyisical access == 0wn3d./
[06:35] <prova> Until you crypt the entire fs
[06:36] <thoreauputic> prova: and make sure you don't talk in your sleep *grin*
[06:37] <yonil> xmms is crashing when i try to play a mp3 file ... any ideas?
[06:38] <thoreauputic> *snore...snore...must remember... root password is...5txP7z1lkdoPhs...*snore*
[06:38] <prova> yonil, any message?
[06:39] <synd> yonil: mine does as well.. it just sits there with the play button pressed in
[06:39] <synd> no message, nothing
[06:39] <yonil> yay fixed!
[06:39] <synd> ?
[06:40] <yonil> just needed to change audio plugin to eAudio
[06:40] <yonil> eSound?*
[06:40] <yonil> without ?
[06:40] <prova> yonil, System->Preference->Multimedia System Selector-><Audio Tab> Choose Output "ESD -Enlightment...."
[06:40] <yonil> prova, hehe just fixed it (found solution here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=105168#post105168)
[06:40] <prova> XMMS   -> Audio Plugin Tab-> Output Plugin Choose "eSound Output
[06:41] <yonil> yes thats what i did, thanks anyway ;)
[06:41] <prova> np.
[06:41] <synd> ahhh mine too !
[06:41] <synd> : )
[06:41] <yonil> :D
[06:42] <synd> are there skins for xmms?
[06:43] <cusco> yep
[06:43] <cusco> apt-cache search xmms
[06:43] <FR500> hello
[06:43] <cusco> apt-cache search xmms skins
[06:44] <FR500> i installed mono from synaptic, but  system.net is not available? any ideas on why?
[06:44] <yonil> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://il.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/il.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) --- ?
[06:45] <zane> i am having sound issues with ubuntu.. anyone knows an easy fix for this? if i play mp3 or mpg file, i can hear but cant hear the system sounds..
[06:45] <cusco> yonil: looks like to me that the il mirror is now working
[06:45] <cusco> yonil: try apt-get update
[06:45] <neighborlee> thoreauputic: can do what
[06:45] <cusco> zane: try alsamixer
[06:46] <prova> hello, i cannot connect using pppoe http://tnet.no/paste/825112610886, could help?
[06:46] <neighborlee> thoreauputic: you can't just hacjk into a linux machine without a password..and trust me mine is NOT going to be easy to crack..I used 'alpha/numeric' so forget it ;-)\
[06:46] <yonil> cusco, weird, few minutes ago apt-get update didnt work :O
[06:46] <yonil> now it worked
[06:46] <cusco> yonil: maybe it was a gap on the il mirror
[06:46] <neighborlee> thoreauputic: not unless the machine isn't 'up2date' ;-))..and mine is baby <G>
[06:47] <zane> cusco how do i switch to alsamixer?
[06:47] <thoreauputic> neighborlee: whatever you say - I told a guy on this chan the other day to start in single mode and reset his root pass and he did it  - your mileage may vary
[06:47] <Jefis> i started apache service, and can anyone tell me why i can't look at my web-pages, while everybody else does?
[06:48] <nxvl> i have just install Ubuntu Warty
[06:48] <nxvl> and i'm tring to update it to Hoary
[06:48] <Listener> does someone know what's the word to launch Adobe reader 7 in the "run application" window?
[06:48] <prova> Jefis, wich error? how are you trying to access your page.
[06:48] <nxvl> is there some way to do it
[06:48] <linuxboy> I upgraded to Hoary from Warty, but if i load synaptic, there are loads of packages under "Installed (local or obsolete)" Cani remove them?
[06:48] <nxvl> y have edit the sources.list
[06:48] <nxvl> and change warty to hoary
[06:48] <Jefis> prova, with firefox
[06:48] <Jefis> ;)
[06:48] <nxvl> but it doesnt work
[06:48] <prova> <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[06:48] <Jefis> jyes
[06:48] <Jefis> yes
[06:48] <Jefis> localhost
[06:48] <Jefis> and ip
[06:48] <Jefis> doesn't work
[06:48] <prova> 404?
[06:48] <Jefis> no
[06:49] <Jefis> can't connect
[06:49] <prova> error_log?
[06:49] <yonil> any recommender movie players?
[06:49] <Jefis> prova,  http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[06:49] <Jefis> prova, what you see?
[06:49] <Listener> yonil, xine
[06:49] <prova> closed
[06:49] <cusco> zane: I don't really know... try Aplications - Sound & Viudeo - Volume Control
[06:49] <cusco> for your oss mixer
[06:49] <Jefis> prova, <? echo "Closed"; ?>
[06:50] <Jefis> but i can't view that
[06:50] <Jefis> [Mon Apr 11 17:27:43 2005]  [warn]  (101)Network is unreachable: connect to listener <-- what is this?
[06:50] <prova> If you write <? echo "Closed"; ?> i'll see just closed
[06:50] <zane> oh ok
[06:50] <Jefis> yes, but i can't see that :D
[06:50] <prova> iptables -l ?
[06:51] <Jefis> root@localhost:/etc/apache2 # iptables -L
[06:51] <Jefis> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[06:51] <Jefis> target     prot opt source               destination
[06:51] <Jefis> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[06:51] <Jefis> target     prot opt source               destination
[06:51] <Jefis> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[06:51] <Jefis> target     prot opt source               destination
[06:51] <jordanau> Jefis, pastebin.com
[06:51] <ubuntu> Hello once again
[06:51] <plouf> hello
[06:51] <Jefis> sorry :)
[06:51] <ubuntu> I've installed Gnome menu editor, but there's still certain entries I can't remove. Is there a way I can remove them?
[06:51] <plouf> how can i add more rerfesh rates to monitor ?
[06:52] <FR500> has anyone installed mono from repositories?
[06:52] <Listener> Jefis, what are u doing?
[06:52] <FR500> the system.net namespace is not available
[06:52] <jordanau> no sweat everyone wins, its is easier for us to read so you get your question answered faster and nobody gets annoted
[06:52] <jasp> hello ubuntu. i assume you aren't an official representative of canonical
[06:52] <Jefis> Listener, tring to find out what is wrong
[06:52] <ubuntu> jasp, nope, sorry, just have my username as "ubuntu", I should change my name
[06:53] <jasp> ubuntu: not a problem. just wondered
[06:53] <prova> Jefis, can you msg me with the error mozilla give you
[06:53] <Jefis> prova, maybe i use GET <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[06:53] <Jefis> ;)
[06:53] <Jefis> root@localhost:/etc/apache2 # GET <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:53] <Jefis>
[06:53] <Jefis> waiting
[06:53] <Jefis> ... :)
[06:54] <prova> k
[06:54] <thoreauputic> jasp: look for the nick sabdfl , he's da man :)
[06:55] <pmjdebruijn> lo all
[06:55] <morphx> Hy all :)
[06:55] <pmjdebruijn> does anybody here whether there is a port of Mono for Ubuntu?
[06:55] <morphx> I just download ubuntu, and i find it very good :)
[06:55] <aurax> anyone can help me out in installing xerox phase printer with print server
[06:55] <aurax> please..
[06:55] <subterrific> pmjdebruijn: its in the universe repository, read the wiki
[06:55] <mainer> neighborlee: prova is right,do some reading
[06:55] <morphx> But i have a litle mather with the sound. Does anybody can help me please ? :)
[06:56] <pmjdebruijn> subterrific: ok thanks
[06:56] <dcaba> where ubuntu irc spanish
[06:56] <thoreauputic> dcaba: #ubuntu-es
[06:57] <squishedlizard> I'm new to it myself; I love it so far.
[06:57] <Jefis> why i can't ping myself, i have devices: eth0, and ppp0 ?
[06:57] <squishedlizard> Having some problems though w/ my browser.
[06:57] <dcaba> ok thank you
[06:57] <vessuvius81> I finally got my wireless card up, but it keeps connecting to another wlan in the building... even after I set sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid DOGWHISTLE (my essid)
[06:57] <vessuvius81> anyone know how I can force it to only go to the essid I specify
[06:58] <Jefis> why i can't ping myself, i have devices: eth0, and ppp0 ?
[06:59] <squishedlizard> One of my problems is that my browser, nor gaim, actually do much.
[06:59] <squishedlizard> I clearly have internet though, so...
[06:59] <squishedlizard> *frusterated*
[06:59] <cert> hi people
[06:59] <cert> i am new to ubuntu
[06:59] <vessuvius81> do much?
[06:59] <cert> just curios
[06:59] <dcaba> where irc spanish ubuntu
[07:00] <cert> do you guys know how to set the prefered mirror site to download the package?
[07:01] <Seveas> cert, set it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:01] <cert> thank you :)
[07:02] <squishedlizard> I have a question, and it'd be great if someone could possibly help me.
[07:02] <Echylo> shoot
[07:02] <morphx> Can somebody help me please ? I've no sound, no sound card recognized.Please
[07:02] <jordanau> squishedlizard, what exactly is wrong
[07:02] <blueyed> What do I have to do after putting in a new soundcard (SB Live)? alsamixer still shows only the onboard chip..
[07:02] <squishedlizard> I clearly have internet access, but my mozilla and gaim won't really do anything, they time out every time. Why would this be? It worked yesterday, and I can still ping things.
[07:03] <Seveas> squishedlizard, that is odd
[07:03] <jordanau> blueyed, i have heard something about haveing to disable the onboard first thats all i know though
[07:03] <thoreauputic> morphx: people might need to know what your sound card is and if you are using hoary or warty
[07:03] <Seveas> squishedlizard, are you now at the box that has these problems?
[07:03] <squishedlizard> Yes.
[07:03] <whiteknight> blueyed, turn the onboard off in your bios
[07:03] <pouf> hello ppl
[07:03] <blueyed> jordanau and whiteknight, ok, I'll try (though it should be deactivated automatically).
[07:04] <Seveas> squishedlizard, can you go to ant sites at all? (like google or the ubunt site)
[07:04] <Seveas> any sites, not ant sites :)
[07:04] <pouf> does anyone knows how can i add more refresh rates ?
[07:04] <squishedlizard> google takes me to developer.mozilla.org
[07:04] <squishedlizard> it didn't do that 2 minutes ago.
[07:04] <squishedlizard> This is highly frusterating.
[07:05] <Seveas> squishedlizard, do all sites redirect to dev.moz.org?
[07:06] <squishedlizard> No, just google. No other site will load; they time out.
[07:06] <Seveas> hmm, really odd
[07:06] <Seveas> can you type "dig google.com" in a terminal
[07:06] <Seveas> and see if that times out
[07:06] <medist> hi
[07:06] <dcaba> where irc ubuntu in spanish
[07:06] <thoreauputic> squishedlizard: do you have nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:06] <squishedlizard> worked fine.
[07:07] <medist> salut
[07:07] <Jefis> general error: missing L0 device in ifconfig
[07:07] <morphx> thoreauputic, i don't know, i donwload it on ubuntu.com (v 5.04) :) For my sound card it's a : RealTek ALC650 8-channel audio with Intel High Definition Audio CODEC
[07:07] <morphx> Realtek audio CODEC ALC880
[07:07] <thoreauputic> dcaba: I told you,  #ubuntu-es
[07:07] <morphx> :)
[07:07] <medist> mon 1er jour avec linux:)
[07:07] <squishedlizard> lol told e permission denied.
[07:07] <squishedlizard> told me*
[07:07] <medist> un lecteur mp3 sous ubuntu
[07:07] <medist> ?
[07:07] <Seveas> squishedlizard, what does dig say?
[07:07] <dcaba> i cant go ubuntu es
[07:07] <morphx> medist enfin un franais ! :)
[07:07] <Seveas> can you paste the output in a private chat please
[07:08] <FR500> hello, would i brak my package database if i install mono from the .bin installer?
[07:08] <medist> ouf
[07:08] <medist> :)
[07:08] <morphx> lol
[07:08] <morphx> Tu parle pas anglais ?
[07:08] <thoreauputic> medist: #ubuntu-fr
[07:08] <squishedlizard> it got an answer.
[07:08] <dcaba> how conect ubuntu es
[07:08] <medist> non
[07:08] <medist> pas bien
[07:08] <morphx> Tu veut que je traduise ? Je suis pas hyper fort mais on me comprend
[07:08] <Seveas> FR500, not the database itself, but installing it in the normal location will break stuff
[07:08] <Bazzi> coimprende amigo
[07:08] <squishedlizard> 24 seconds.
[07:08] <medist> mon 1er jour sous linux et sous un mac en plus c le paradis:))
[07:08] <Seveas> squishedlizard, what haddens if you go to that IP with mozilla?
[07:09] <morphx> lol j'imagine !!
[07:09] <FR500> Seveas, what can i do?
[07:09] <medist> un lecteur mp3?
[07:09] <Seveas> FR500, i have no idea, never installed mono :)
[07:09] <medist> y'a t 'il?
[07:09] <morphx> Tu en a d'intgr normalement
[07:09] <Seveas> medist, on parle anglais ici!
[07:09] <morphx> Le probleme c'est le codec
[07:09] <cert> thanks!
[07:09] <FR500> what stuff can i break?
[07:09] <cert> see you
[07:09] <morphx> Comme il est pas open source il faut le tlcharger
[07:10] <squishedlizard> it loads google.
[07:10] <Seveas> si vouz voulez parler francais, allez a #ubuntu-fr
[07:10] <InitMass> i don't understand why the "Computer" button icon in nautilus is missing, no matter of which icon theme i'm using
[07:10] <medist> il s'apelle lecteur de musique mais veut pas ouvrir un fichier mp3
[07:10] <thoreauputic> morphx, medist,  #ubuntu-fr, s'il vous plait
[07:10] <morphx> ok merci je savai pas
[07:10] <medist> ah cool
[07:10] <Seveas> squishedlizard, sounds like a dns problem to me
[07:10] <Seveas> 24 seconds is painfully slow
[07:10] <squishedlizard> it is still the only site that it will load.
[07:11] <OC_Aux> seveas :D
[07:11] <Jefis> why i can't ping myself, i have devices: eth0, and ppp0 ? can't ping myself
[07:11] <FR500> Seveas, what stuff can i break?
[07:11] <squishedlizard> everything else will ping, but not load, and I am hoping it's a dns, but it's still annoying.
[07:11] <thoreauputic> squishedlizard:  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[07:12] <FR500> squishedlizard, u have a firewall?
[07:12] <Seveas> hmm, xchat borked...
[07:12] <squishedlizard> no firewall.
[07:12] <squishedlizard> I should have one, I know.
[07:12] <lizdeika> i wonder when breezy will be started ...
[07:12] <Seveas> squishedlizard, have you tried using other DNS servers?
[07:13] <Seveas> lizdeika, at UDU they will discuss Breezy, development will start after UDU iirc
[07:13] <squishedlizard> thor gave me the name server info.
[07:13] <Jefis> general error = can't ping myself :)
[07:13] <Jefis> what to do?
[07:13] <squishedlizard> no, I haven't, actually.
[07:13] <Seveas> Jefis, you mean ping <IP_ADDRESS> fails?
[07:14] <lizdeika> Seveas: and when that udu ends ? :)
[07:14] <St0n3-C0l> Strange.
[07:14] <Jefis> yes
[07:14] <Zotnix> No need for a firewall by default/.
[07:14] <synd> is there any way to get what song is currently playing in winamp and be able to put it in the gaim status, and have it update automatically?
[07:14] <Seveas> UDU = Ubuntu Down Under, the next conference
[07:14] <thoreauputic> squishedlizard: I just was suggesting you look at that file: you might want to add nameservers to it to test
[07:14] <Jefis> --- <IP_ADDRESS> ping statistics ---
[07:14] <Jefis> 6 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4998ms
[07:14] <Jefis> you see?
[07:14] <St0n3-C0l> :|
[07:14] <dcaba> i have thi error when install ndiswrapper
[07:14] <dcaba> make -C driver
[07:14] <dcaba> make[1] : Entering directory `/tmp/ndiswrapper-1.1/driver'
[07:14] <dcaba> Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-amd64-generic/build;
[07:14] <dcaba>   give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make
[07:14] <dcaba> make[1] : *** [prereq_check]  Error 1
[07:14] <dcaba> make[1] : Leaving directory `/tmp/ndiswrapper-1.1/driver'
[07:14] <dcaba> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[07:15] <Seveas> dcaba, STOP IT
[07:15] <Seveas> no pasting here!
[07:15] <FR500> Seveas, what stuff can i break?
[07:15] <synd> dcaba, no pasting, use #flood
[07:15] <FR500> Seveas, it says all linux distros
[07:15] <synd> is there any way to get what song is currently playing in winamp and be able to put it in the gaim status, and have it update automatically? anyone?
[07:15] <Seveas> squishedlizard: try this: dig @<IP_ADDRESS> ubuntulinux.org
[07:15] <Seveas> it should answer within a few seconds
[07:15] <floater> hello, why can't I find linux-headers for my 2.6.10-2-386 from apt-get ??
[07:16] <Seveas> synd, winamp??
[07:16] <dcaba> how do i use flood
[07:16] <synd> Seveas: i mean xmms :p
[07:16] <Seveas> FR500, just make sure it installs to /usr/local/something
[07:16] <FR500> Seveas, thanks
[07:16] <squishedlizard> 68 msec
[07:16] <Jefis> Seveas, any ideas?
[07:16] <synd> is there any way to get what song is currently playing in *xmms* and be able to put it in the gaim status, and have it update automatically?
[07:16] <synd> :x
[07:16] <Seveas> squishedlizard, yeah, definitely a dns problem
[07:16] <floater> anyone?
[07:16] <Seveas> go kick your ISP
[07:17] <Seveas> :)
[07:17] <squishedlizard> crap
[07:17] <squishedlizard> k
[07:17] <squishedlizard> at least I know where to start.
[07:17] <floater> Why can't I find linux-headers for my 2.6.10-2-386 from apt-get ? Should they be there or what I am doing wrong ?
[07:17] <netgrabber> is there a fixed marillat repository for hoary?
[07:17] <thoreauputic> dcaba: I suggest you type    /join #ubuntu-es
[07:17] <FR500> synd, i think gaim has a plugin for that already in the default install
[07:17] <Seveas> floater, because it's too old
[07:17] <synd> FR500: im not seeing anything..
[07:17] <Seveas> floater, install a more recent kernel
[07:17] <floater> what's a newer version
[07:17] <FR500> hmmm
[07:17] <Seveas> floater, are you on pentium or amd?
[07:17] <floater> amd
[07:17] <synd> hmm
[07:18] <Nigelenki> http://rafb.net/paste/results/2N5zff48.html  :/
[07:18] <floater> but I want 386 rather than k7
[07:18] <Seveas> floater, apt-get install linux-k7
[07:18] <dcaba> don work ubuntu es
[07:18] <Seveas> why?
[07:18] <Nigelenki> hp pavilion zv5405us laptop
[07:18] <Seveas> floater well, then install linux-386
[07:18] <floater> because vmware is having problem to recognize some of it
[07:18] <floater> oh.. just linux-386 I see
[07:18] <dcaba> iwant install my wireless broadcon 4306
[07:19] <thoreauputic> dcaba: yes it does - you left out the  # , didn't you?
[07:19] <FR500> synd, true
[07:19] <orangehaw> same problem as of yesterday: still can't use the 'front panel' with CF, SD, Firewire and so on. I'm not even sure now if its a ich6 problem of some other thingy. Lspci says: 0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03) and i think that's the problem...
[07:19] <floater> does that install linux-headers
[07:19] <Seveas> floater, installing the linux-386 package will keep your kernel up-to-date too
[07:19] <FR500> synd, there are on fc3
[07:19] <FR500> sorry for confussion
[07:19] <thoreauputic> dcaba:     --> #ubuntu-es
[07:19] <orangehaw> anyone in here knows how to get ich6 going?
[07:19] <floater> ok
[07:19] <Zotnix> Just a quick question, I'm getting a video card in two weeks... my current rate for my AGP slot is x2. What command (I can read the manpage from here) changes the rate?
[07:19] <synd> FR500: any idea what they are?
[07:19] <floater> thanks, I'll try
[07:19] <FR500> synd, google for gaim plugins or xmms plugins
[07:20] <St0n3-C0l> How Do i configure my samba server ?
[07:20] <Seveas> floater, and the kernel headers are in the packages named linux-headers-something
[07:20] <synd> FR500: thanks
[07:20] <Seveas> floater, that something must match your kernel version exactly
[07:20] <thoreauputic> linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:20] <floater> hmm
[07:20] <yoni> how can i set the audio plugin for xine to eSound?
[07:20] <Seveas> thoreauputic, that is `uname -r`
[07:20] <Seveas> :)
[07:21] <thoreauputic> Seveas: no, either works
[07:21] <Seveas> yeah, but mine means less typing :D
[07:21] <thoreauputic> Seveas: in fact $(uname -r) is preferred
[07:21] <dcaba> thank thoreauputic
[07:21] <Seveas> thoreauputic, why's that?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> Seveas: also less chance of people missing the little ``
[07:21] <Jefis> is there smart enought people who can't say why i can't ping myself ???
[07:21] <dcaba> but dont connect
[07:21] <Seveas> he, true :)
[07:22] <thoreauputic> Seveas: easier to read :)
[07:22] <dcaba> ok ready
[07:22] <Seveas> Jefis, i must have missed your response to my question, do you mean ping <IP_ADDRESS> doesn't work?
[07:22] <Jefis> yes
[07:22] <Jefis> doesn't
[07:22] <Jefis> ping localhost too
[07:22] <Jefis> ping myip too
[07:22] <Seveas> Jefis, is interface lo up?
[07:22] <Jefis> no
[07:22] <Seveas> hmm
[07:23] <Seveas> then lots more should fail
[07:23] <Jefis> only: eth0, ppp0, lo missing
[07:23] <Jefis> he he he
[07:23] <Seveas> and what happens if you try sudo ifup lo
[07:23] <Jefis> ifconfig lo up
[07:23] <Seveas> ?
[07:23] <Jefis> ;D
[07:23] <Jefis> works :)
[07:23] <Seveas> Jefis, check /etc/network/interfaces
[07:24] <Seveas> it should contain a line that says 'auto lo'
[07:24] <Jefis> Seveas, not it works
[07:24] <Seveas> (without '')
[07:24] <dcaba> no body in spanish
[07:24] <Jefis> there is auto lo
[07:24] <cyklus> After upgrading to Hoary from "tpb" no longer works... I checked that the daemon is running and that I have permissions to /dev/nvram  ...anyone have any idea why it might not be working?
[07:24] <Jefis> ;)
[07:24] <Seveas> dcaba, #ubuntu-es?
[07:25] <Seveas> cyklus, what is tpb?
[07:25] <yoni> I think xine crush on me since i didnt set its audio plugin to eSound - how can i set it ?
[07:25] <thoreauputic> dcaba: there are 20 in #ubuntu-es
[07:28] <blueyed> Cool, the SB Live Card was detected and now I can have 2 users access /dev/dsp (STAC9708/11 chip).
[07:29] <banshee_> Err... got a kinda funny question... what is the default root password? There weren't any options to set it, in the installation?
[07:29] <Seveas> banshee_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:29] <_phate_> how do I get programs that don't use esd to produce sound?
[07:29] <Seveas> There Is No Root (tm)
[07:29] <_phate_> the doc here:http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats, doesn't make sence
[07:29] <_phate_> *sense
[07:29] <holycow> Seveas, lol, love that line
[07:29] <thoreauputic> _phate_: in what way? It made sense to me...
[07:30] <yoni> how can i view hidden windows files ?
[07:30] <banshee_> okay thanks :) That'll take a while to get used to...
[07:30] <Seveas> yoni, by mounting your windows partition?
[07:30] <Seveas> banshee_, you ven set a root password if you want to, but you'll appreciate sudo if you get used to it :)
[07:30] <thoreauputic> yoni: nothing can hide from Linux! *grin*
[07:31] <yoni> Seveas, actually its on a cd, but i cant see a hidden folder :(
[07:31] <ian> when I use the right alt+ctrl keys with arrow keys to move between workspaces the little popup window doesn't go away when I release alt+ctrl (the left ones work correctly)
[07:31] <sig> http://harrisplace.net/screenshots/Ubuntu-Screenshots/UbuntuHoary-Stable.png
[07:31] <sig> my current shot
[07:31] <Seveas> yoni, hm?
[07:32] <thoreauputic> yoni: try hitting ctrl-h in nautilus (if that's how you are viewing it)
[07:32] <Seveas> cd's aren't fat32
[07:32] <Moof> hi
[07:32] <Seveas> so not windows files :)
[07:32] <thoreauputic> although I can't see why that would make any difference for win files...
[07:32] <Moof> how do I remotely install ubuntu onto a partition on a running linux box?
[07:32] <Seveas> Moof, you can't
[07:33] <langenberg> Moof: you can
[07:33] <langenberg> :P
[07:33] <Seveas> hm?
[07:33] <langenberg> sure
[07:33] <thoreauputic> debootstrap?
[07:33] <Seveas> ah, yeah, not using d-i :)
[07:33] <langenberg> yeah, since it's debian based it is certainly possible
[07:33] <_phate_> thoreauputic, what exactly do I change to get it to work?
[07:33] <Seveas> langenberg, care to share how? (never had to do it, but it's nice to know how)
[07:34] <thoreauputic> _phate_: umm - I just followed the directions
[07:34] <langenberg> Seveas: sorry, I just know that it is possible.
[07:34] <langenberg> I've done it only with gentoo, isn't that hard.
[07:34] <langenberg> create partitions -> move bootstrap files to it and apt -> chroot
[07:35] <langenberg> At least, that makes sense
[07:35] <Seveas> hmm, indeed
[07:35] <krypt0s> is it better to install the grub boot loader thingy to the windows partition or the linux?
[07:35] <_phate_> how do I restart esd?
[07:35] <Seveas> krypt0s, it's best to install it on (hd0)
[07:35] <krypt0s> ok, I've managed to get hold of a laptop so I can get on irc if anything goes wrong
[07:35] <krypt0s> ^^
[07:36] <Olliander> kryptOs: I would place it in the MBR!
[07:36] <cusco> can anyone tell me a light simple program to quick build webpages?
[07:36] <_phate_> cusco
[07:36] <krypt0s> ?? how do I do that Ollilander
[07:36] <zenrox> bluefish
[07:36] <_phate_> nvu
[07:36] <langenberg> Seveas, Moof: http://www.burgettsys.com/stories/59455/
[07:36] <krypt0s> hd0 right?
[07:36] <Olliander> Right.
[07:36] <queuetue> Can you buy an inline adapter to go from SATA to EIDE, or is it more complicated than that?
[07:36] <zenrox> cusco, bluefish
[07:36] <Seveas> langenberg, thnx
[07:36] <ian> cusco: are you named after the peruvian city?
[07:36] <cusco> ian: no :(
[07:36] <cyklus> Seveas: used for IBM thinkpads to do on screen display for volume buttons etc.
[07:36] <AcidWolf> how do i change the system language
[07:36] <thoreauputic> krypt0s: MBR is the default anyway
[07:36] <cusco> thanks zenrox, _phate_
[07:37] <AcidWolf> or can that only be done during the install
[07:37] <gds> Hi... How can I enable dma on cdrom during the boot?
[07:37] <langenberg> Seveas: tho that's debian, I know there's an unbuntu pkg
[07:37] <bretzel> hi all :-)
[07:38] <gds> If I edit /etc/hdparm.conf, it doen'n fint device file (hdb)
[07:38] <AcidWolf> gds nano /etc/hdparm.conf
[07:38] <AcidWolf> that cause hdb isnt the name of your cdrom
[07:38] <langenberg> mm I just got my printer working on ubuntu, now I want to share the printer with my other linux pc. Does anyone know a good way?
[07:38] <AcidWolf> go to system administration and then to device manager
[07:38] <gds> AcidWolf, It doesn't find hdb... but now hdb appears
[07:39] <AcidWolf> check the name of the Device and make sure you have the correct drive destination
[07:39] <AcidWolf> hmmmm odd
[07:39] <langenberg> Is CUPS able to do this?
[07:39] <krypt0s> can anyone point me to a guide on partitioning, I've seen one somewhere but I can't find it. Using partition magic
[07:39] <synd> checking for gaim >= 1.0.0... Package gaim was not found in the pkg-config search path. // Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gaim.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable // No package 'gaim' found // configure: error: Library requirements (gaim >= 1.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[07:39] <synd> anyone have any ideas why?
[07:39] <Olliander> away
[07:40] <seb128> synd: because you don't have gaim-dev
[07:40] <seb128> and that's the file with the pc file
[07:40] <seb128> package even
[07:40] <seb128> you need that to build something
[07:40] <thoreauputic> synd: why are you compiling gaim?
[07:40] <Seveas> AcidWolf, you can change the language after installing
[07:40] <AcidWolf> ok anyway anyone know if i can change my system language without having to reinstall
[07:40] <AcidWolf> :)
[07:40] <synd> seb128: oh, i see. is gaim-dev in the apt?
[07:40] <Seveas> AcidWolf, hang on :)
[07:40] <AcidWolf> how do i do it then
[07:41] <synd> thoreauputic: im not, im trying to install a plugin
[07:41] <seb128> synd: it is
[07:41] <AcidWolf> ok Seveas
[07:41] <AcidWolf> :)
[07:41] <synd> thoreauputic: http://zulutango.org:82/journal/entry/202
[07:41] <Seveas> AcidWolf, you can change /etc/environment
[07:41] <Seveas> set LANG to your language :)
[07:41] <Seveas> like en_US.UTF8
[07:41] <synd> seb: thanks bro
[07:41] <synd> seb128: *
[07:41] <AcidWolf> Seveas does that have to be dont through terminal
[07:42] <seb128> np
[07:42] <Seveas> AcidWolf, make sure you have that locale installed though!
[07:42] <AcidWolf> yeah
[07:42] <Seveas> AcidWolf, use dpkg --reconfigure locales for that
[07:42] <krypt0s> hmm, I have a recovery partition already
[07:42] <AcidWolf> i just installed it from apt now
[07:42] <krypt0s> will that be hd0?
[07:42] <Seveas> you can set the language with that too
[07:42] <Seveas> mut manually tweaking /etc/environment can do more :)
[07:42] <Seveas> s/mut/but
[07:42] <Xebitx> can anyone recommend me an irc client which supports blowfish?
[07:43] <AcidWolf> why would you want encryption for irc
[07:44] <AcidWolf> O_o
[07:44] <synd> Xebitx: xchat doesnt?
[07:44] <morphx> I have  probleme. My soundcard is not detected. I try many opration but the sound don't work anymore. Please help me :/
[07:44] <Seveas> AcidWolf, to be 1337 ;)
[07:44] <AcidWolf> lol
[07:44] <synd> fo sho
[07:44] <AcidWolf> if you leet then you good enough not to get sniffed
[07:44] <AcidWolf> niffty
[07:44] <Seveas> hopelessly much overhead :)
[07:45] <AcidWolf> morphx go to system preferances and then go to prefered media
[07:45] <cisa> is there hardware-raid support for a SIL0680 in the kernel, so that i can install ubuntu on a raid 1?
[07:45] <AcidWolf> check what the sound driver is that you are using
[07:45] <AcidWolf> it should be esd
[07:45] <Xebitx> synd: where do I set the key?
[07:45] <AcidWolf> :)
[07:45] <krypt0s> I have a recovery partition on my drive, will this be hd0 or will the windows partition be hd0?
[07:45] <Seveas> krypt0s, hd0 is the disk
[07:45] <Seveas> not the partition
[07:46] <Seveas> partitions are called hd0,0 and the like
[07:46] <AcidWolf> krypt0s open a terminal and type Cfdisk
[07:46] <AcidWolf> or Fdisk
[07:46] <AcidWolf> and print out the Partition table
[07:46] <krypt0s> haven't got terminal, I'm about to partition on winxp
[07:46] <AcidWolf> this with answer all your questions
[07:46] <AcidWolf> oh
[07:46] <Xebitx> synd: never mind
[07:46] <AcidWolf> well fdisk is a dos utility aswell
[07:46] <Seveas> krypt0s, what are you going to partition it with?
[07:46] <synd> great, new error
[07:46] <krypt0s> Partition Magic
[07:47] <Seveas> krypt0s, that shows the disk layout as well...
[07:47] <AcidWolf> indeed
[07:47] <rijad> how to make tootem play things?
[07:47] <nubbe> How do I limit the read-speed of cds in my dvd-reader?
[07:47] <AcidWolf> lol
[07:47] <Seveas> rijad, hit the play button?
[07:47] <AcidWolf> *giggle*
[07:47] <rijad> gettin errors...
[07:47] <Seveas> like...?
[07:47] <AcidWolf> tootem
[07:47] <rijad> plugin this plugin that
[07:48] <AcidWolf> tell me more about this tootem
[07:48] <krypt0s> hmm, I'm going to use 35gb for Linux, 5gb for swap file and 5gb for datashare
[07:48] <krypt0s> does that sound ok?
[07:48] <Seveas> rijad, the quick'n'dirty solution is installing w32codecs from marillat
[07:48] <Seveas> no
[07:48] <Seveas> 5gb swap is way too much
[07:48] <synd> checking for XMMS - version >= 1.2.8... no //  The xmms-config script installed by XMMS could not be found. // *** If XMMS was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in your path, or set the XMMS_CONFIG environment variable to the full path to xmms-config. // configure: error: *** XMMS >= 1.2.8 not installed - please install first
[07:48] <AcidWolf> very quick and very dirty
[07:48] <krypt0s> 3gb?
[07:48] <synd> i have xmms 1.2.10
[07:48] <rijad> where do i find them
[07:48] <AcidWolf> synd
[07:48] <Seveas> krypt0s, how much ram do you have?
[07:48] <synd> AcidWolf:
[07:49] <krypt0s> 1gb
[07:49] <AcidWolf> try expanding your repositories
[07:49] <AcidWolf> :p
[07:49] <synd> theyre expanded !
[07:49] <_phate_> NTFS in linux is read only right?
[07:49] <synd> how much more could they get
[07:49] <Seveas> krypt0s, then you almost dont need swap
[07:49] <rijad> do you need a swap that big if you have 1gb ram?
[07:49] <Seveas> but 512 mb to 1 gb is enough
[07:49] <synd> _phate_: i believe so
[07:49] <AcidWolf> well actually the amount of expanding is endless
[07:49] <_phate_> dang
[07:49] <AcidWolf> yes
[07:49] <_phate_> it'd be nice to able to copy stuff across
[07:49] <Seveas> _phate_, there are (expensive) commercial tools that can write too
[07:50] <synd> AcidWolf: well its bitching about not having 1.2.8, and i have 1.2.10 :p
[07:50] <Seveas> rijad, a swap file is always good to have
[07:50] <krypt0s> do I need to scan disk before partitioning?
[07:50] <AcidWolf> synd it doesnt matter
[07:50] <Seveas> krypt0s, recommended
[07:50] <Seveas> and defrag too
[07:50] <synd> well what repos do i need ?
[07:50] <AcidWolf> some developers choose to support certain packages
[07:50] <AcidWolf> and some they dont
[07:50] <_phate_> is there away to resize my windows partition so I can have a fat32 shared partition? or is there a ext2/3 driver for windows somewhere?
[07:50] <AcidWolf> so either live without or downgrade
[07:51] <Seveas> _phate_, partition magic can do both ;)
[07:51] <synd> checking for XMMS - version >= 1.2.8... no
[07:52] <yoni> what is the executable extension?
[07:52] <_phate_> umask=0222 means what?
[07:52] <synd> thats greater than or equal to right
[07:52] <synd> 1.2.10 is greater than
[07:52] <tritium> yoni, file types are not determined by extensions
[07:52] <paul__> is there something you have to do to get sound working for programs like rhythmbox or xmms, my sound works in gnome but no music players
[07:52] <synd> paul
[07:52] <yoni> tritium, well i just double clicked a .bin file and it said "rename this file to an executable extension"
[07:53] <paul__> synd ;]
[07:53] <synd> look in the preferences in xmms
[07:53] <cikilin> hello
[07:53] <_phate_> paul__,  look here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:53] <paul__> ah mp3 i bet right
[07:53] <bur[n] er> anyone use amarok in gnome in ubuntu??
[07:53] <cikilin> can anybody help me to get dcgui-qt and install it please
[07:53] <tritium> yoni, do you have executable permissions on the file?
[07:54] <synd> paul__: audio I/O plugins, and make sure eSound is the Output plugin
[07:54] <paul__> ok
[07:54] <yoni> tritium, yes
[07:54] <queuetue> Any way an op can put RestrictedFormats in the /topic?
[07:54] <synd> paul__: but do what _phate_ suggested first, if you havent
[07:54] <paul__> ok
[07:54] <cikilin> hellooooooooooo
[07:54] <AcidWolf> LANGUAGE="en_AU:en"
[07:54] <AcidWolf> LANG=en_AU.UTF-8
[07:54] <AcidWolf> um
[07:54] <AcidWolf> ok i need to change that
[07:55] <AcidWolf> however im not sure what to do with the whole AU thing
[07:55] <AcidWolf> O_o
[07:55] <FR500> why is that mono-web is not on repos?
[07:55] <yeedl> hi, everytime i try to apt-get, i get this error msg, i was wondering how i could fix it:  Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_warty_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:55] <yeedl> when i run apt-get update i get apt-get update
[07:55] <yeedl> Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/main Packages [483kB]
[07:55] <yeedl> E: Method http has died unexpectedly!
[07:55] <queuetue> FR500, If you find out, let me know, please. :)
[07:56] <yoni> tritium, nevermind, guess i didnt have :)
[07:56] <tritium> yoni, :)
[07:56] <FR500> queuetue, any place where i can suggest such stuff?
[07:56] <yeedl> is there a way i can get apt-get to work?
[07:56] <nebulasray> why might xmms not output any sound from a cd? i've tried different output plugins but none of them work... the gnome cd player works fine
[07:56] <rijad> is a 2.4GB swap good enough?
[07:56] <yoni> where will be a good location to install software to (realplayer) ?
[07:57] <queuetue> FR500, Mailing lists?  I don't know - I'm not very into the ubuntu community or process.
[07:58] <FR500> ok
[07:58] <cikilin> can anybody help me to get dcgui-qt and install it please
[07:58] <FR500> Seveas, may i install in /opt/mono?
[07:59] <seb__vdn> hi all !
[07:59] <xukun> ist possible to uninstall everything that has anything with nvidia and nvidia drivers?
[08:00] <AcidWolf> sudo dpkp-reconfigure locales <------ apparently im supposed to do this when trying to change laguage
[08:00] <AcidWolf> however i get an error message
[08:00] <queuetue> FR500, What were you responding to there? (I didn't see Seveas respond to you. :) )
[08:00] <tritium> xukun, apt-cache search nvidia, and then install all the packages you'd like that it lists
[08:00] <AcidWolf> anyone know why
[08:00] <Stonekeeper> hi. I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.04 on a Gateway box (GP6-400) with 128M of ram. After loading the initrd it hangs. Any ideas?
[08:00] <_blue> gonna go install ubuntu...w00t, wish me luck....
[08:00] <tritium> xukun, but not all of them will be of use to you
[08:00] <queuetue> _blue, Good luck, but I doubt you'l need it.
[08:01] <queuetue> _blue, Ubuntu is *very* well put together.
[08:01] <FR500> queuetue, from some time ago?
[08:01] <queuetue> FR500, Ah.
[08:02] <Seveas> FR500, /opt/mono should be fine
[08:02] <Seveas> /opt/mono is not used for standard installs
[08:02] <seb__vdn> i was compiled a new kernel on ubutnu for support my capturing device (a pinnacle dc 10) ,but when i want to use xawtv or lavrec command,they said no found signal,and xawtv said : This is xawtv-3.94, running on Linux/i686 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[08:02] <seb__vdn> WARNING: v4l-conf is compiled without DGA support.
[08:02] <seb__vdn> WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual
[08:02] <seb__vdn>          configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>")
[08:02] <InitMass> is it possible to have support for both utf8 and iso...-1 so the filenames can be shown correctly no matter of the character set used when the file was created?
[08:03] <FR500> Seveas, even if i do at /usr/local it wont appear on synaptic right? so i may be better of compiling and checkinstall
[08:03] <krypt0s> Do I need to partition a swap file before, as I'm looking in a picture guide and the guy selects "Automatically partition the free space"
[08:03] <seb__vdn> anyone have a suggestion ?
[08:03] <InitMass> bob2, i believe you've got the answer to my questoin above about utf8
[08:04] <Seveas> FR500, i don't know mono, so i can't answer that
[08:05] <FR500> ok
[08:05] <Stonekeeper> so anyone installed ubuntu on systems with <= 128M RAM
[08:05] <Stonekeeper> ?
[08:06] <queuetue> Well, I bit the bullet.  I'm replacing my Duron 800MHZ/256MB system with an Athlon 64 2.2GHZ/2GB SLI system with dual GF 6800 cards...  Now I won't be able to sleep for a week.
[08:06] <Seveas> Stonekeeper, here are attempts documented on the wiki
[08:06] <Seveas> search for miniramhowto (oslt)
[08:06] <Bazzi> queuetue nuts :D
[08:06] <Shufla> hello :)
[08:07] <Seveas> queuetue, nice specs ;)
[08:07] <AcidWolf> locale-genbrb
[08:07] <beanimanius> quick question, has anyone been able to get an Audigy LS to work
[08:07] <Bazzi> well I'll buy some similar pc soon
[08:07] <St0n3-C0l> Shufla
[08:08] <krypt0s> anyone know where it tells you the disk partition like (hd0,0) on partition magic?
[08:08] <SeamusLP> beanimanius: got my Audigy 2 to work
[08:08] <membreya> hey guys, quick question..is it a biggy if I've lost my /var/ directory? :P
[08:08] <Seveas> krypt0s, hd0,0 is simply the first partition on your first disk
[08:08] <St0n3-C0l> ahh...nice name :P
[08:08] <tritium> membreya, yes
[08:08] <queuetue> Seveas, I hope it's impressive.  Well, I *know* it'l be impressive - I hope it's 1,000USD impressive. :)
[08:08] <beanimanius> SeamusLP, does the Audigy 2 have an on-board mixer?
[08:08] <pseudo> forums just go down?
[08:08] <membreya> tritium: how much of a biggy? :P
[08:08] <Seveas> krypt0s, so probalby it's C:\
[08:09] <Bazzi> queuetue more like $1500 isnt it?
[08:09] <cikilin> anybody home
[08:09] <Seveas> membreya, losing /var/ usually means reinstall
[08:09] <SeamusLP> beanimanius: I think so
[08:09] <membreya> crud!
[08:09] <Shufla> St0n3-C0l: yes?
[08:09] <membreya> i did a sudo rm -rf /var/local/tv_grab_au/
[08:09] <membreya> and it removed my var :|
[08:09] <Seveas> hmm
[08:09] <darkpeter> hi
[08:09] <krypt0s> but I've got a Recovery partition (15gb Fat32) and a Windows partition (NTFS) so I'm wondering which one is Hd(0,0) seveas
[08:09] <darkpeter> i need help :s
[08:10] <beanimanius> SeamusLP, the LS doesn't, it depends on the processor to do the work, linux has a problem with this
[08:10] <membreya> krypt0s: do a sudo fdisk -l
[08:10] <tritium> membreya, that wouldn't remove /var
[08:10] <Shufla> membreya: impossibile.
[08:10] <SeamusLP> pseudo: sacrifice three virgins on the first full moon of each year
[08:10] <krypt0s> membreya, don't have linux (yet ;p)
[08:10] <Anders1> membreya: that wouldnt remove /var
[08:10] <pseudo> SeamusLP, did that already, didn't work
[08:10] <Seveas> membreya, maybe you typed /var,local/something :)
[08:10] <Stonekeeper> Seveas, Thanks. Where is the wiki? :)
[08:10] <InitMass> seems like many people wont get the help they need here. i can recommend them to search in ubuntuforums.org
[08:10] <Seveas> Stonekeeper, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki
[08:11] <Seveas> InitMass, what?
[08:11] <neighborlee> while I can't prove it..I'm positive I was typing my password corrrectly but it wasn't letting me in..now I reboot..try again and boom it lets me in..what could cause this and is this indication I should reinstall ?LOL
[08:11] <SeamusLP> pseudo:  What problems are you having with it?  esd locking in the sound device?
[08:11] <Seveas> there's a lot of help here...
[08:11] <Seveas> neighborlee, get some coffee :o)
[08:11] <pseudo> basically, I can't get flash sound and others to work while esd is running
[08:11] <InitMass> Seveas, saw many people asking things that's why i pointed them to that url
[08:11] <neighborlee> Seveas, haha
[08:11] <pseudo> but I don't want to loose system souns and esd
[08:11] <neighborlee> Seveas, I know it sounds whack but its true
[08:11] <pseudo> seeming I use totem alot
[08:11] <SeamusLP> pseudo: Had that problem as well, tried to change firefox to esd and it failed miserably
[08:12] <pseudo> is there a way to link the output?
[08:12] <Grim76_Work> Question on Crontab:  I have an item that is set like the following * 2,4,6,8,10 * * * * /XXXXX  However, the entry seems to run every second vs. ever two hours.
[08:12] <membreya> Seveas, Anders1 ... I figured out what happened, I went back to kde to get the directory..when I went back to konsole I typed in the directory and it overwrote what I had..or so it seemed :| now what's happened is it's sudo rm -rf /var/local/tv_grab_au/udo rm -rf /var/
[08:12] <membreya> piss nuts!
[08:12] <SeamusLP> pseudo what do you mean by link the output?
[08:12] <Seveas> Grim76_Work, first of all, it should run every minute, not second
[08:13] <krypt0s> is it pretty safe to assume that the order of the list in partition magic is the order of the partitions (hd0,0) is the first one and (hd0,1) is the second one
[08:13] <stacey> whereis a good repos for "whois" for Warty?
[08:13] <membreya> krypt0s: that's right
[08:13] <krypt0s> because it doesn't say (hd0,0) it just lists them
[08:13] <pseudo> like get both soun systems to share the common dsp?
[08:13] <Grim76_Work> Seveas sorry it is every minute...misread the output in mail.
[08:13] <AcidWolf> well i guess i got my language working
[08:13] <AcidWolf> :)
[08:13] <membreya> krypt0s: hd0 = your first harddrive
[08:13] <Seveas> stacey, whois is in main
[08:13] <Seveas> and even installed by default
[08:13] <membreya> the number after it is the partition
[08:14] <Seveas> Grim76_Work, you shouldn't have the  first asterisk
[08:14] <Seveas> Grim76_Work, how often do you want it to run, every two minutes?
[08:14] <membreya> ok, well if I do a reinstall, and I backup /usr /bin /home /etc
[08:14] <membreya> will that put everything how it was?
[08:14] <SeamusLP> pseudo: I wish I knew of a way.  My solution was to ditch esd completely.  I configured totem to use alsa.  As far as getting your gnome sounds to go through alsa, I'm not so sure you can do that without some really dirty hacks.
[08:14] <Grim76_Work> Seveas I would like it to run every 2 hours
[08:15] <Seveas> Grim76_Work:
[08:15] <pseudo> SeamusLP, thanks
[08:15] <Seveas> * */2 * * * /your/command
[08:15] <pseudo> SeamusLP, also, with the latest updates, seen any breaking of stuff nike muine and rhythmbox?
[08:15] <SeamusLP> pseudo: I don't use rhythmbox...
[08:15] <zemantic> THANK YOU! To all the people who made hoary possible.  I've gotten that old time Linux religeon back again
[08:15] <krypt0s> I know hd0= my hard drive, it's just that I don't know whether hd0,0= my recovery partition or my windows partition membreya
[08:16] <Seveas> Grim76_Work, sorry, mistake
[08:16] <davix> If I apt-get install xqf (game server browser) where does it save its config files?
[08:16] <pseudo> will miune play mp3's? I've only gotten it to work with oggs
[08:16] <Grim76_Work> Seveas ok
[08:16] <Seveas> Grim76_Work, use 0 */2 * * *
[08:16] <Seveas> 0 for on minute 0
[08:16] <Seveas> */2 for every 2 hours
[08:16] <Grim76_Work> ok
[08:16] <krypt0s> ack, there must be an install guide somewhere?
[08:16] <Stonekeeper> cheers
[08:16] <Grim76_Work> Good thing I came here the entries that I found on the web were having me do it a different way.
[08:16] <SeamusLP> pseudo: well by default hoary comes with non-proprietary formats.  Maybe if you look around in universe and multiverse?
[08:17] <Choubaka> libmadsomething
[08:17] <Choubaka> that's needed for mp3s
[08:17] <Seveas> gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:17] <Seveas> (or w32codecs)
[08:17] <SeamusLP> Yeah that's it.
[08:17] <pseudo> SeamusLP, thanks
[08:18] <SeamusLP> pseudo if you want to keep using esd try to find a way to get firefox to use it
[08:18] <SeamusLP> if you can do that you'll be set
[08:18] <elekrtolyytti> What was the name of the gnome app what checks pop3 mail?
[08:18] <Seveas> elekrtolyytti, evolution?
[08:19] <paulfox> anyone know how to use the smbclient tool?
[08:19] <membreya> elekrtolyytti: thunderbird? evolution?
[08:19] <Seveas> elekrtolyytti, there is a gnome applet too
[08:19] <membreya> paulfox: what's wrong ?
[08:19] <dcraven> elekrtolyytti, you might be thinking of mail-notification
[08:20] <paulfox> membreya, i've added a samba share with the ubuntu tool, but can't see it via nautilus in my network place.
[08:20] <davix> If I apt-get install xqf (game server browser) where does it save its config files? again...
[08:20] <dcraven> or gbiff
[08:20] <membreya> paulfox: can people on the network see it ?
[08:20] <paulfox> membreya, i'm wondering if it's posible to see it with samba tools
[08:20] <Seveas> davix, ~/.xqf maybe?
[08:20] <paulfox> membreya, no. they can see my hostname, but not the shared folder
[08:21] <elekrtolyytti> dcraven: ty
[08:21] <cas> Hi everyone!
[08:21] <krypt0s> do I need to partition my swap file or does ubuntu do it automatically. Also do I just like the format as free for the linux and swapfile?
[08:21] <zAo^> anyone know where to get libCurl3 <7.13 thanks!
[08:21] <pseudo> SeamusLP, Actually fixed it ... I when to the multimedia selector in System preferences, and changed it to esd, now everyhting uses esd ...
[08:22] <dcraven> davix, it's in ~/.qf
[08:22] <dcraven> brb
[08:22] <davix> dcraven, it's not there
[08:22] <Ironfrost> krypt0s - the Ubuntu installer will partition the drive for you
[08:22] <cas> I've a problem with two of my hoary machines, the problem is simple: They wont upgrade. Is there a known bug like this, i'm searching for it but didn't find anything (yet).
[08:22] <davix> where can it be otherwise?
[08:22] <Ironfrost> but if you want to dual-boot, it's probably better to partition the drive before you start
[08:23] <Ironfrost> because apparently some people have had problems
[08:23] <SeamusLP> pseudo even firefox?
[08:23] <drspin> for some reason, since I upgraded to Hoary... Sound Recorder no longer works... the MIC is unmuted on both the OSS and ALSA mixers
[08:23] <pseudo> I'm testing now
[08:23] <krypt0s> Thanks Ironfrost, yeah I've read about lots of problems and am pretty anxious :/. Just gotta make 38gb partition along with a 2gb swapfile
[08:23] <pseudo> yep
[08:23] <pseudo> weird.
[08:23] <Choubaka> 2gb swap? :o
[08:24] <SeamusLP> huh, I always tried to change it in its config file
[08:24] <SeamusLP> in etc
[08:24] <Choubaka> Where do you need that much?
[08:24] <SeamusLP> never worked for me!
[08:24] <Choubaka> :)
[08:24] <Xebitx> I need a gui ftp client that supports ssl... which one is best?
[08:24] <membreya> gah, that freaked me out, my kde locked... so I just tried to restart kdm...then I had to mkdir /var/ /var/run/ /var/log/
[08:24] <membreya> sheesh!
[08:24] <jordanau> krypt0s, 2gb?? is that a normal size for a swap??
[08:24] <Choubaka> no. :p
[08:24] <krypt0s> Jordanau, nah but I'll just keep it a round number
[08:24] <Choubaka> krypt0s: how much ram do you have?
[08:24] <jordanau> krypt0s, how much ram do you have?
[08:24] <krypt0s> lol
[08:24] <Choubaka> :DD
[08:24] <jordanau> Choubaka, haha
[08:24] <krypt0s> 1gb...I know
[08:25] <krypt0s> a lot
[08:25] <Choubaka> hah
[08:25] <krypt0s> 1gb swap then?
[08:25] <Choubaka> Disable swap altogether
[08:25] <Choubaka> You don't need it.
[08:25] <jordanau> krypt0s, you dont need much
[08:25] <Listener> what's the command line to install a .deb package?
[08:25] <Choubaka> dpkg -i
[08:25] <membreya> Listener: sudo dpkg -i (debname)
[08:25] <krypt0s> ok, I'm going to partition, you just partition the section to "Free" right?
[08:25] <Listener> thanks membreya
[08:26] <Choubaka> jordanau: how much of that swap is in use? :p
[08:26] <stacey_> Seveas: Get:1 ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable/main whois 4.7.1 [41.1kB]
[08:26] <stacey_> Err ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable/main whois 4.7.1
[08:26] <stacey_>   Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.  ' [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 21]
[08:26] <jordanau> Choubaka, no clue
[08:26] <jordanau> :D
[08:26] <Choubaka> run "top" in a terminal
[08:26] <jordanau> krypt0s, free means there is no partition i think
[08:26] <Choubaka> krypt0s: don't create a swap partition.
[08:26] <tritium> If you want to hibernate, be sure to have at least the same size swap as you have memory
[08:26] <Choubaka> If you need swap, you can always create a file to swap to
[08:27] <Choubaka> Ah, right, hibernation.
[08:27] <jordanau> krypt0s, make a ext 3 partition of /
[08:27] <drspin> so anyone know why I can't record fro my MIC anymore like I used to???
[08:27] <jordanau> krypt0s, and that should do it
[08:27] <Choubaka> Hmm.
[08:28] <krypt0s> so it partition magic I make a ext 3 partition?
[08:28] <krypt0s> I thought ubuntu did that jordanau
[08:28] <tritium> krypt0s, is this a laptop?
[08:28] <jordanau> it depends is the entire hard drive free?
[08:28] <pere> are there repositories where I can find OpenOffice 2.0 Beta?
[08:29] <tritium> pere, apt-get install openoffice.org2
[08:29] <krypt0s> no the entire hard drive isn't free
[08:29] <krypt0s> I'm going to run dual boot
[08:29] <jordanau> tritium, is oofice 2 stable enough to run?
[08:29] <tritium> pere, it's in universe
[08:29] <tritium> jordanau, don't know - I don't use it
[08:29] <jordanau> okay then you will have to do some partitioning on your own with the ubuntu install
[08:30] <jordanau> tritium, i think i am going to wait a while, i am a college student and pretty buttons isnt worth a crash
[08:30] <pere> im using oo2-beta under Windows and find it fantastic
[08:30] <Choubaka> oo uses a shitload of RAM though :(
[08:30] <tritium> pere, as long as you have the universe repo setup, you can grab it, then
[08:30] <Anders1> is universe like experimental in Debian?
[08:30] <jordanau> krypt0s, when you partition, make a partition that is ext3 and / you will understand when it comes time to install
[08:31] <tritium> jordanau, I opened up a word doc with a table in oo-2, and it didn't read the table correctly, whereas 1.1.3 did
[08:31] <_blue> ubuntu uses ext3 by default right?
[08:31] <jordanau> Somebody really should write a partitioning HOWTO
[08:31] <jordanau> yeah
[08:31] <Shufla> _blue: yes.
[08:31] <tritium> Anders1, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[08:31] <_blue> good, ill try reiserfs when i move from the test box ubuntu install to the new box
[08:32] <fgx> anyboby here having probs with gdesklets in hoary?
[08:32] <tritium> reiserfs - my worst filesystem corruption experience ever
[08:32] <_blue> tritium: i hear good things about it....
[08:32] <jordanau> tritium, little advice, when you have a class presentation in front of a bunch of engineering students, don't make your slide show in oofice then convert to microsoft powerpoint without checking over it :D
[08:32] <Zotnix> I never had problems with reiserfs
[08:32] <Xeon3D> fgx: yup... we're on the same boat... but I'm still running RC.
[08:33] <tritium> jordanau, yeah, I use latex-beamer for that ;)
[08:33] <tritium> _blue, go for it, if you trust it... ;)
[08:33] <_blue> i TRUST ext3
[08:33] <fgx> Xeon3D, i cant load any gdesklet but daemon is on. is it the same for you?
[08:33] <krypt0s> jordanau, is there an Installing howto ??
[08:33] <akk> jordanau: That seems to be true even with powerpoint.  80% of PP presentations I see involve cursing over features that don't work in the expected way on the computer used for the presentation.
[08:33] <_blue> never had one problem with it...and never had one problem with mandrake for that matter
[08:33] <_blue> so if ubuntu gives me one problem :P
[08:34] <_blue> heh
[08:35] <Xeon3D> fgx, yup
[08:35] <dcaba> i have amd 64 bit and i wnat install ndiswrapper where find
[08:35] <Xeon3D> fgx, but I don't really care about gdesklets tho... it's just eyecandy and my ubuntu system is already preety as it is.
[08:36] <Xebitx> any use pftp-mew?
[08:36] <whiskers> ok...this is nice...i see today ubuntu made the helix player available with the free theora format
[08:36] <Xebitx> anyone*
[08:36] <membreya> lo thoreauputic :P
[08:37] <whiskers> so now we have ogg and theora implemented and don't have to step on anybodys toes
[08:37] <thoreauputic> membreya: hi :)
[08:37] <jordanau> akk, slideshow presentations should be more "tightly" created and converted better
[08:37] <whiskers> also there is flac and maybe jack (i am not sure about the jack stuff) but anyway the basics are covered.
[08:38] <jordanau> jordanau, less room for error
[08:38] <fgx> Xeon3D, that's true
[08:38] <jordanau> akk, there should me an html type language for slideshows
[08:38] <membreya> thoreauputic: see my recent post on the mailing list :P
[08:38] <GhostFreeman> why does KDE sideways look like a smiley
[08:38] <thoreauputic> membreya: you hosed your system *again* ? :P
[08:39] <membreya> :P
[08:39] <krypt0s> 4000mb=40gb right?
[08:39] <membreya> wasnt my fault
[08:39] <GhostFreeman> kryptos: metrically, yes
[08:39] <thoreauputic> membreya: that's what they all say .... ;P
[08:39] <akk> jordanau: There are several packages.  I use mozilla when I need a slideshow package.
[08:39] <membreya> technically krypt0s 4gb = 4096 mb
[08:39] <GhostFreeman> really, its 4096
[08:39] <jordanau> krischan, no 4000 = 4
[08:39] <GhostFreeman> In metrics
[08:39] <GhostFreeman> in*
[08:39] <krypt0s> I create all partitions primary right?
[08:40] <membreya> 4000 is if you believe harddrive manufacturers
[08:40] <tritium> krypt0s, if you have 4 or less
[08:40] <akk> jordanau: I don't know of any packages that do whizzy rotating effects from one slide to the next, like powerpoint people seem to love so much, but of course it's possible with css.
[08:40] <krypt0s> I will have 5 be the end?
[08:40] <thoreauputic> membreya: if you will insist on using bloated buggy terminal emulators .... ;-)
[08:40] <membreya> :P
[08:40] <jordanau> akk, effects are unprofessional anyway
[08:40] <membreya> hmmmm i think it's entirely possibly to recover from this error
[08:40] <tritium> jordanau, latex-beamer is the only thing for quality mathematical typesetting :)
[08:40] <membreya> just need to recreate the directories
[08:41] <krypt0s> tritium, I will have 5 by the end. 1) Windows Recovery 2) Linux 3) Linux Swap 4) Datashare between Linux and Windows (FAT32)
[08:41] <thoreauputic> membreya: apt-get install magic-wand
[08:41] <krypt0s> tritium, does that effect whether I make them all primary?
[08:41] <devscott> I'm having trouble with NFS in Hoary.   You?
[08:42] <ells> an iso
[08:42] <GhostFreeman> what package do I remove to get all this bloated shit KDE installed
[08:42] <devscott> but it won't let me write
[08:42] <ells> tritium: not alot
[08:42] <krypt0s> tritium, extended? which one do you reccomend I do this with?
[08:42] <thoreauputic> GhostFreeman: kdebase perhaps?
[08:42] <mainer> kryptos: good alternative is to dwnld and burn mandrake move just for disk-drake partitoner for emergencys,it's a live cd
[08:42] <devscott> any suggestions?
[08:43] <cas> krypt0s: 1+2:windows 3: datashare 4: secondary :5linux 6:swap
[08:43] <jordanau> devscott, what is nfs?
[08:43] <mainer> kryptos: i like cfdisk for qick,down n dirty
[08:43] <membreya> thoreauputic: personally I blame this channel, noone told me how to use DD yesterday when I wanted to do a backup :P
[08:43] <cas> jordanau: network file system
[08:43] <GhostFreeman> would removing kde-core work as well?
[08:43] <tritium> krypt0s, cas's suggestion looks fine
[08:43] <GhostFreeman> do I need that to run Kubuntu
[08:43] <thoreauputic> jordanau: network file system
[08:43] <jordanau> ahhh thanks
[08:43] <devscott> jordanau: Network File Systems
[08:44] <krypt0s> In Partition magic it doesn't have an option of secondary it has an option of "logical" is that ok?
[08:44] <knudsen_> Hello. After installing the final version of Hoary, sound in totem has disappeared. It still works fine in xmms. Any ideas about what could be wrong?
[08:44] <tritium> yes
[08:44] <mainer> ghostfreeman:yes kde-core is needed for kde
[08:44] <GhostFreeman> oh shit
[08:44] <devscott> I followed the wiki pages but just can't write to the folder
[08:44] <GhostFreeman> reinstalling
[08:44] <cas> krypt0s: i was wrong it's logical
[08:44] <drspin> ok searching the WIKI didn't turn up much -- GOOGLING didn't turn up much -- why won't Sound Recorder work on Hoary when it worked just fine on Warty?
[08:44] <krypt0s> actually save the fuss, I just won't use a swap
[08:44] <devscott> UID's match, Permissions match
[08:44] <tritium> krypt0s, is it a laptop?
[08:44] <krypt0s> tritium, no
[08:44] <cas> drspin: could be several things
[08:44] <thoreauputic> membreya: dd == damned dangerous
[08:45] <jordanau> drspin, did you check alsa mixer?
[08:45] <tritium> krypt0s, okay, without it you wouldn't be able to hibernate
[08:45] <root__> 5~
[08:45] <membreya> thoreauputic: noone can recommend a good mirroring software package
[08:45] <thoreauputic> membreya: but useful
[08:45] <root__> exit
[08:45] <drspin> cas jordanau yes... both alsa and oss have the microphone unmuted
[08:45] <GhostFreeman> anyways
[08:45] <thoreauputic> membreya: what;s wrong with rsync?
[08:45] <membreya> nfi how to use it
[08:45] <GhostFreeman> what do I remove to get all the K~ software off my Linux
[08:45] <membreya> I just wanted to burn a DVD backup of my install
[08:45] <thoreauputic> ah
[08:46] <cas> drspin: does your recorderlevelmonitors show anything?
[08:46] <dcraven> Holy crap.. I have three of everything in my menu all of a sudden.. lol
[08:46] <whiskers> membreya, well you need a live boot cd with pcopy or partimage on it
[08:46] <drspin> cas - nope
[08:46] <krypt0s> do I want linux ext2 or linux ext 3 for my linux partition?
[08:46] <thoreauputic> membreya: can't you tar and feather your stuff and burn it to the DVD ?
[08:46] <membreya> feather? :|
[08:46] <jordanau> krypt0s, 3
[08:46] <membreya> lol
[08:46] <drspin> cas: but I can hear the sound from the mic on my speaks...
[08:46] <thoreauputic> membreya: you know what I mean...
[08:46] <whiskers> membreya, now i have one with partimage but i don't have one with pcopy to compare
[08:47] <dockane> i am thinkin
[08:47] <membreya> i have partimage installed
[08:47] <cas> drspin: sorry to ask, but did you double check your cables/microphone?
[08:47] <thoreauputic> membreya: tar and feather it and run it out of town on a rail
[08:47] <membreya> lol
[08:47] <whiskers> membreya, no...you don't install it....there is no point trying to back up a live partition...you use a separate live boot cd with partimage and clone the inactive partitions
[08:47] <dcaba> someboby know install ndiswrapper en amd 64 bit
[08:47] <membreya> oooooh :)
[08:47] <membreya> again ..nobody told me :P
[08:48] <whiskers> membreya, but i would like to compare partimage with pcopy
[08:48] <cas> drspin: you can try to put your microphone in the audioout to hear if it works (unless your speakers aren't working too ;)
[08:48] <ogami1972> anythoughts on how to test a fresh install?
[08:48] <tritium> ells, what kind of data is in the .iso?
[08:48] <jordanau> ogami1972, test?
[08:48] <ogami1972> just general benchmarking