[14:34] <seedofc> In the past, I've seen where you can send certain parameters to an "apt-get install <app>" to include the compilation of extended functionality into that app (i.e. VIM with python support).  How do you determine what parameters are available for an application?
[14:36] <ruan> depends on the application.
[14:36] <raven> what is an alternative tool like after effects for ubuntu?
[14:36] <ericy> seedofc: Perhaps via info at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[14:36] <ruan> raven: what is after effects?
[14:37] <AdvoWork> is there a way i can split a massive 9.2gb file into smaller files, do some work on them and then join them backtogether again?
[14:37] <terry> raven: huh?
[14:37] <ruan> AdvoWork: i dont know if you could do some work on them without joining them
[14:37] <sipior> AdvoWork: depends a fair bit on what the file format is, and what you want to do to it.
[14:38] <ruan> AdvoWork: what do you mean 'do some work on them' though?
[14:38] <AdvoWork> its basically a sql dump, i need to run it through iconv
[14:38] <AdvoWork> but cant with the massive file, it just dies
[14:38] <maf> hellos
[14:38] <seedofc> seedofc: any suggestions on how to do it via command line. Or, is there a way that apt-get can display the various parameters and their respective descriptions?
[14:38] <seedofc> err
[14:38] <maf> anyone know what APT tools are used for ?
[14:38] <sipior> AdvoWork: if it's just text, have a look at "split".
[14:38] <ruan> AdvoWork: hmm... is a dump a text file?
[14:38] <seedofc> ^^ that was meant for ericy, not myself
[14:38] <terry> maf: package management
[14:38] <ruan> !apt
[14:39] <dr0id> !info
[14:39] <dr0id> 1apt
[14:39] <dr0id> !apt
[14:39] <ruan> it's !info package
[14:39] <dr0id> why cant i use ths bot ?
[14:39] <ruan> dr0id: what do you want to do?
[14:39] <jwandborg> !info apt
[14:39] <dr0id> nothing, any diff between info and man ? :P
[14:39] <cdeze> I'm working on  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization , with ubuntu-Server 10.04.2 LTS iso, it works fine, BUT I want to remove some unused  packages in my custom iso  to add my own  files , Is there any  howto ?
[14:39] <maf> oh
[14:39] <ruan> man isn't a valid option, so yea
[14:39] <maf> davanced front end for dpkg
[14:39] <jwandborg> dr0id: Yes, huge difference.
[14:39] <maf> I see
[14:40] <dr0id> jwandborg: could you explain pls
[14:40] <maf> thanks
[14:40] <dr0id> i see the result exactly same
[14:40] <maf> what might be a typical use of ATP ?
[14:40] <ruan> dr0id: man pages are extremely detailed
[14:40] <AdvoWork> can split split by %, or gigs or something?
[14:40] <maf> er APT ?
[14:40] <ruan> maf: to manage packages.....?
[14:40] <maf> lol- ok
[14:40] <dr0id> ruan: and info are not
[14:40] <Pici> !apt | maf
[14:40] <jwandborg> dr0id: oh, are you thinking about the linux command info, or the IRC command for ubottu?
[14:40] <ruan> dr0id: info is a basic summary, man is an extremely detailed page
[14:41] <ruan> that is the difference
[14:41] <dr0id> talking about the linux command
[14:41] <ruan> oh
[14:41] <terry> naf: atp-get apt-cache  etc.
[14:41] <dr0id> i thought !info and !man would make ubottu give me some diff between them :)
[14:41] <ruan> !info info
[14:41] <ruan> !info man
[14:41] <ruan> wat
[14:41] <ruan> !man
[14:41] <FloodBot3> ruan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:41] <dr0id> !info man
[14:42] <terry> maf: apt-get apt-cache etc.
[14:42] <ruan> man and info are different tools
[14:42] <jwandborg> !info manpage
[14:42] <jwandborg> !info manpages
[14:42] <jwandborg> !info infopages
[14:42] <jwandborg> !info infopage
[14:42] <ruan> !info info
[14:42] <jwandborg> !info inf
[14:42] <raven> why mobile network traffic is not shown in system monitor widged?
[14:42] <llutz> ruan:  <ruan> [15:40:17] dr0id: man pages are extremely detailed      <- "some man-pages"  other aren't worth the name "manual-page"
[14:43] <jwandborg> raven: Which if is it on
[14:43] <ruan> llutz: i thought he meant the difference between !info and man in a terminal
[14:43] <sosaited> Is there an easy way to read/parse sqlite databases in Ubuntu?
[14:43] <craigbass1976> I'm home, but I want to dork with thunderbird at work.  Because it's running all the filters on my IMAP, I need it to be running there.  Thunderbird won't detect any new folders though that I make from here.  How do I start thunderbird remotely; not to see, just to have running?
[14:43] <sipior> llutz: agree strongly, especially the ones that just say "look at the info page"
[14:43] <raven> jwandborg, ppp9
[14:44] <jwandborg> craigbass1976: You should probably check out some thunderbird forum.
[14:44] <terry> maf: example-1:  apt-cache search nmap  example-2:  sudo apt-get install nmap
[14:44] <jwandborg> raven: Is that if included in the monitoring widget?
[14:44] <craigbass1976> jwandborg, I could, but this applies to any ap I want to fire up remotely.  Again, not to view it, just to make it run
[14:44] <raven> jwandborg, how to check/do this?
[14:45] <craigbass1976> jwandborg, like, can I start thunderbird and point it at whatever display is currently running?
[14:45] <raven> jwandborg, how to check/do this?
[14:45] <raven> how to install jahshaka on lucid?
[14:46] <ruan> !info jahshaka
[14:46] <AdvoWork> ive ive split my files, with split -l 49000 file.sql  how can i join them back together again in the correct order?
[14:46] <jwandborg> raven: don't know, I'm on XP right now, but check the settings page. If you can't find it, file a bug report if you can find the appropriate bug tracking page for the widget.
[14:46] <sipior> AdvoWork: "cat"
[14:47] <MindSpark> hi, I have this huawei modem called k3756. Did anyone succeed in getting that running with ubuntu ?
[14:47] <jwandborg> sipior: AdvoWork: Would file-* put the in the right order?
[14:47] <cwek_pengen> apa ada cwo??
[14:47] <sipior> jwandborg: sorry, which now?
[14:48] <jwandborg> sipior: `cat`
[14:48] <craigbass1976> This is actually a general kind of question now that I think on it.  I'm on box X, and joebob is on box Y.  How do I fire up xchat on box Y so that joebob can see it in the display he's already running?
[14:49] <sipior> jwandborg: oh, you mean the file glob? depends a bit on your LC variables. i would double check the order of the file glob to make sure it wasn't a problem. should be fine.
[14:49] <cwek_pengen> there is indo here??
[14:49] <sipior> jwandborg: i believe split is smart enough to pad the file segment numbers.
[14:49] <Pici> !id | cwek_pengen
[14:49] <jwandborg> sipior: !id | jwandborg
[14:49] <jwandborg> sipior: whoops ^
[14:50] <jwandborg> !id | jwandborg
[14:50] <pocoyo> !id | pocoyo
[14:50] <Pici> !msgthebot | jwandborg pocoyo
[14:50] <jwandborg> don't get this
[14:51] <Pici> jwandborg: Don't get what?
[14:51] <jwandborg> the rambling "membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia"
[14:51] <jwandborg> Pici: ^
[14:52] <sipior> jwandborg: this is surely not your first encounter with a foreign language.
[14:52] <ruan> jwandborg: do you understand that language?
[14:52] <Pici> jwandborg: Its Malay for "please join #ubuntu-id for Indonesian"
[14:53] <jwandborg> Pici: Well, now that's sorted :P
[14:53] <jwandborg> Pici: ruan: i though "id" as in identifier.
[14:53] <ruan> lol
[14:54] <ruan> usually, 2 char factoids are languages. eg. !cn, !de, !jp, etc.
[14:56] <cdeze>  I'm working on  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization , with ubuntu-Server 10.04.2 LTS iso, it works fine, BUT I want to remove some unused  packages in my custom iso  to add my own  files , Is there any  howto ?
[14:59] <beer_brouwer> cdeze: google knows it all :D
[14:59] <Pici> !google | beer_brouwer
[14:59] <cdeze> beer_brouwer: i googled it
[14:59] <dr3af> hello,anyone got a workaround to make powerSmart button on acer laptops to work?or to underclock mobile nvidia gpu...
[14:59] <Incarus6> google-fu?
[15:00] <ruan> google-fu is the art of googling
[15:00] <soreau> Incarus6: The ability to use google effectively
[15:00] <cdeze> I'm not bad with google but i didn't find anything
[15:01] <soreau> ! remaster | cdeze
[15:01] <ruan> !info remastersys
[15:01] <sipior> cdeze: the scripts in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization/Scripts claim to do what you want.
[15:01] <ruan> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys
[15:01] <supervomy> !list
[15:01] <ruan> googled and found ^
[15:02] <cdeze> thanks  ubottu and sipior i look at it
[15:02] <cdeze> ruan: i 'm not sure that your link is upto ddate
[15:04] <ruan> hmm. maybe remastersys was updated though
[15:04] <ruan> i'll check if its been updated recently
[15:05] <sosaited> Is there an easy way to read/parse sqlite databases in Ubuntu?
[15:05] <ruan> ok its outdated
[15:05] <Pici> sosaited: sqlite or sqlite3 both have packages.  For a GUI way, I'm not sure.
[15:05] <Grav> Is it me or there is something wrong with how ubuntu manages memory? I have 2GB RAM. After some time my memory is full, and everything freezes or crashes
[15:06] <supervomy> !list
[15:06] <ruan> Grav: is an application taking all of the memory?
[15:06] <ruan> Grav: check in system monitor, memory tab
[15:06] <supervomy> !list
[15:07] <sosaited> Pici, I have sqlite3 installed. Is there any active channel I can get some help with regarding sqlite3?
[15:07] <sosaited> Pici, #sqlite on freenode seems dead
[15:07] <Pici> sosaited: I was going to suggest that :/  Perhaps #sql
[15:07] <melfy> how do i check mapped network drives
[15:09] <terry> melfy: huh?
[15:10] <terry> melfy: are you using nfs?
[15:10] <melfy> terry: idk someone in vbox told me to check my mappned network drives cause vbox additions is auto mounting stuff
[15:10] <terry> melfy: If so, look at /etc/fstab
[15:11] <Grav> ruan: Yes. Applications are taking memory. I'm trying to run firefox and some other things like IDE, and it grows and grows in memory and freezes system. Ubunt can't clear it. Only sometimes it will kill random processes.
[15:11] <melfy> terry: yea nothing there :(
[15:11] <ruan> Grav: which applications are taking memory?
[15:11] <ruan> Grav: how much memory does the application take?
[15:11] <ruan> Grav: what is your swap memory size?
[15:11] <terry> melfy: "mapped network drives" is MS Windows lingo and does not really relate to what we do in linux.
[15:11] <sipior> Grav: what is the output of "free"?
[15:13] <melfy> terry: figured lol...sigh :(
[15:13] <Grav> ruan: well now it looks like one tab in chrome is taking 450MB, firefox is taking 300mb ...
[15:13] <ruan> thats a lot
[15:14] <ruan> latest versions of each?
[15:14] <Grav> ruan: I can disable them but it will grow anyway in few hours
[15:14] <Grav> ruan: yes
[15:14] <ruan> did this happen in the past?
[15:14] <Grav> ruan: If i run virtualbox or rubymine ide i will kill my system now
[15:15] <Grav> ruan: i'm not sure too if i got swap, there is none in system monitor
[15:15] <ruan> Grav: what is the output of 'free' in a terminal then?
[15:15] <sipior> finally...
[15:15] <Grav> Mem:       2060304    1062732     997572          0      44300     214608
[15:15] <ruan> Grav: and swap?
[15:15] <Grav> I disabled chrome now
[15:15] <Grav> swap is 0 in sytem monitor
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Grav: you using the daily chromium or chrome from ubuntu repos?
[15:16] <Grav> chrome
[15:16] <ruan> Grav: does swapon -a enable swap?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Grav: freaky, I use daily build and its fine :)
[15:16] <terry> Grav: ruan is telling you to open a terminal and issue command    free
[15:16] <ruan> yeah he obviously did that
[15:17] <Grav> but it's not problem with chrome. It's just ram isn't cleared and everything grows
[15:17] <terry> ruan: I see now, but did not say anthing about his swap.
[15:17] <sipior> Grav: it would be useful to see the "-/+ buffers/cache" line as well
[15:17] <terry> Grav: Do you even have a swap partition?
[15:17] <ruan> terry: yeah but in system monitor it should be the same
[15:17] <terry> Grav: sudo fdisk -l
[15:17] <Grav> ruan:  swapon -a in terminal does nothing?
[15:18] <ruan> Grav: is there a swap partition then? sudo fdisk -l
[15:18] <terry> Grav: are  you sure?  free
[15:19] <Grav> I don't think i have swap
[15:20] <ruan> Grav: is there one judging from the output from sudo fdisk -l?
[15:20] <Dazzled> hi, don't shoot me, but is there a MSSQL client for Ubuntu?
[15:20] <Grav> -/+ buffers/cache:     809796    1250508
[15:20] <ruan> !sql
[15:20] <terry> Grav:  free ; sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[15:20] <ruan> Grav: do you have pastebinit installed?
[15:21] <ruan> !info pastebinit
[15:21] <supervomy> 	XDCC|OCEAN|NEWS80
[15:21] <sipior> Grav: so what makes you feel that you are out of memory? this all looks normal.
[15:21] <thereIsOnlyXUL> Uhm, the thing I wanna type in is !<something> | wine, what's the command?
[15:21] <Grav> i will isntall pastebinit
[15:21] <ruan> Grav: ok.
[15:21] <thereIsOnlyXUL> !ubottu | wine
[15:22] <wtbtr> I just got my ASUS U31F. After installing ubuntu 10.10 ( perfectminimal ) I notice that I have no wireless, and the wireless LED is on. Any suggestions on what to do?
[15:22] <thereIsOnlyXUL> Meh... anyway, if you need something that works on Windows you can use Wine.
[15:22]  * thereIsOnlyXUL shrugs
[15:22] <Grav> now it's ok. because i cloded apps. But when i use FF or other app for a while. Suddenly system will freeze
[15:22] <ruan> i need some games that only work on windows :/
[15:22] <terry> wtbtr: iwconfig
[15:22] <ruan> but they dont work on wine
[15:22] <ruan> appdb says the same thing
[15:23] <terry> wtbtr: iwconfig ; lspci | pastebinit
[15:23] <wtbtr> iwconfig not installed :-P
[15:23] <ruan> Grav: there isn't much reason to run firefox and chrome at the same time though
[15:23] <thereIsOnlyXUL> ruan: Best thing I can think of if you need Ubuntu that badly is to run Windows on an account with non shell, or a virtual machine as shell.
[15:23] <thereIsOnlyXUL> Running Windows without shell runs about oh, seven processes on Vista?
[15:23] <Grav>  ruan: I need it for web development. Virtualbox and some IDE too
[15:23] <ruan> oh ok
[15:24] <thereIsOnlyXUL> There is a way you can change the shell in Windows through regedit, but I have since forgot the hive; Try looking it up some time.
[15:24] <sipior> Grav: your system is likely crashing for another reason. have you verified that memory is an issue prior to the crash? does anything useful turn up in your system logs?
[15:24] <terry> wtbtr: sudo apt-get install wicd iw
[15:24] <ruan> i dont feel like creating another windows iso
[15:25] <wtbtr> I installed wireless-tools
[15:25] <wtbtr> rebooting
[15:25] <Grav> I think memory is ok. At least I don't have problem with windows and games.
[15:25] <terry> wtbtr: just log out and back in again. (no need to reboot)
[15:25] <terry> wtbtr: ... i think
[15:26] <wtbtr> right! Do I need network manager. I want the gui where I can select networks.
[15:26] <raven> why mobile network traffic is not shown in system monitor widged?
[15:26] <terry> wtbtr: you now have wicd.  Right?
[15:26] <ruan> is there a reason for the uninstallation of network manager applet causing boot to be 5 seconds faster?
[15:26] <raven> what is an alternative tool like after effects for ubuntu?
[15:26] <Grav> this pastebinit app is great:P
[15:26] <StaRetji> Folks, is it possible to keep application in memory so that it can be called fast? Like program libraries or something?
[15:26] <StaRetji> thx
[15:26] <ruan> raven: what is after effects?
[15:26] <StaRetji> I need it to start fresh each time I call it.
[15:27] <wtbtr> I cannot find wicd as a command, no.
[15:27] <terry> wtbtr: Wicd - Wired and Wireless Network Connection Manager
[15:27] <ruan> !info wicd
[15:27] <Grav> ruan, terry: http://pastebin.com/jgTxTvs7
[15:27] <thereIsOnlyXUL> \After Effects is some kind of video manipulation program by Adobe.
[15:28] <ruan> hmm i dont see a swap partition
[15:28] <terry> wtbtr: wicd is not a command, it is a service that is run all the time.  A little icon will appear in the bar that looks like one monitor behind another.  You click on the icon in order to view  or connect to a network.
[15:28] <wtbtr> I installed wicd but it says that it failed to start. Rebooting.
[15:28] <ruan> !swap
[15:29] <ericy> Grav:  I think you should always use the (command line) tool "top" or "htop", as a primary tool to monitor such problems.
[15:29] <terry> wtbtr: very good
[15:29] <alex__> where are the header files that I need to include in my c++  X Windows program on ubuntu?
[15:29] <thereIsOnlyXUL> ubottu forgot to mention: Bad idea to run pureloy from sawp, and relyong on sawp when memory tops out.
[15:29] <alex__> i keep getting these "xblah was sundefined"
[15:29] <supervomy> !list
[15:29] <wtbtr> yes! I have internets!
[15:29] <ruan> yeah but isn't it leveled out?
[15:30] <ruan> wtbtr: congrats on getting your internets!
[15:30] <yuyao> hello
[15:30] <yuyao> nihao
[15:30] <terry> wtbtr: Very good.
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> wtbtr: cool, get some sites downdrived
[15:30] <terry> wtbtr: updates
[15:31] <alex__> hrm
[15:31] <alex__> x windows programming is very very poorly documented
[15:31] <alex__> i guess I should just use Windows api..
[15:31] <terry> alex__: huh?
[15:31] <alex__> yes. use Windows API
[15:32] <aminixfan> Hi,I used arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc to compile simple helloworld.c, but it told me couldn't find stdio.h,how to solve it?
[15:32] <ruan> alex__: what?
[15:32] <ruan> alex__: for?
[15:32] <supervomy> #oce@n
[15:32] <terry> alex__: /join #windows
[15:32] <alex__> automating a process.
[15:32] <ruan> alex__: linux can automate a process too..>_>
[15:32] <alex__> too bad I can't find any information about doing so
[15:32] <alex__> Xorg/x11 is a big mess
[15:33] <ruan> which process do you wish to automate?
[15:33] <sipior> alex__: most people program in higher-level toolkits, not Xlib. i suggest you do the same.
[15:33] <alex__> Internet explorer in a VM
[15:33] <alex__> oracle virtualbox
[15:33] <ruan> why not ietab?
[15:33] <alex__> ietab?
[15:33] <ahhaha> im having some screen tearing only while watching flash videos on cnn.com etc. is there a vsync setting somewhere for flash specifically?
[15:33] <ruan> ietab extension for firefoxs
[15:34] <wtbtr> another thing, When I get the gnome gui question for admin password, it claims that I entered incorrect password. I don't have an admin password so I enter mine. I like the password to be remembered for some apps.
[15:34] <ruan> firefox
[15:34] <alex__> eh. i need to click things ruan
[15:34] <alex__> like flash games.
[15:34] <alex__> sipior, which toolkits?
[15:34] <sipior> alex__: gtk+ is an obvious choice.
[15:34] <ruan> ietab opens a tab in firefox with ie..
[15:34] <terry> wtbtr: what "gnome gui question for admin password"?
[15:35] <ruan> so you can click flash games i guess
 like flames. <-- i swear i read this
[15:35] <alex__> like flames?
[15:35] <Sonne> yep, flames. arguing over provocations with no constructive arguments...
[15:36] <wtbtr> When I try to start synaptic, a dialog pops up saying "Enter the administrative password...". It offers to remember the passord for session or "in the keyring".
[15:36] <e-head> hi, anyone here use rsync for backups?
[15:36] <e-head> Particularly... for backing up the /home directories?
[15:37] <alex__> Sonne, it looks like you are trying to start a flamewar not me.
[15:37] <terry> wtbtr: What OS do you have installed on your computer?
[15:37] <sipior> e-head: what's your question, exactly?
[15:37] <e-head> I was just wondering if anyone had a good exclude file that would leave out all the extraneous junk from the home directories.
[15:37] <terry> wtbtr: Have you added new users to your system?
[15:37] <ruan> !info rsync
[15:37] <wtbtr> ubuntu 10.10. Command-line install, then I used a script called perfectminimal to install minimal gnome desktop and some other stuff.
[15:38] <sipior> e-head: i tend to use "rm" to deal with extraneous junk in my home directory.
[15:38] <e-head> I'm getting all sorts of warnings and errors about files that look like they are locked by the X-window system or something else.
[15:38] <wtbtr> it makes for a snappy system:)
[15:38] <terry> wtbtr: How many users?
[15:38] <wtbtr> one user, just me.
[15:38] <terry> wtbtr: Then just give user password.
[15:39] <e-head> files like:  smb-network:-b2342e20
[15:39] <wtbtr> Tried that. mabe I'll add myself to admin. Checking that.
[15:39] <sipior> e-head: this is in .gvfs?
[15:39] <e-head> /gvfs-metadata/sftp:host=tabletennis.net,user=ebone
[15:39] <ruan> i uninstalled evolution mail with ubuntu soft. center and later i rebooted, why is evolution-alarm-notify running?
[15:39] <e-head> yeah, that is a particularly problematic directory
[15:40] <ruan> ^still*
[15:40] <terry> wtbtr: Have you added any new users to your system?
[15:40] <e-head> sipior: should I just basically look through the output and add stuff methodically to the --exclude switch?
[15:40] <terry> wtbtr: sudo update-manager
[15:40] <wtbtr> no
[15:40] <terry> wtbtr: sudo update-manager
[15:40] <ruan> nevermind, removed it from startup
[15:41] <sipior> e-head: up to you what you want to keep. the .gvfs stuff can certainly be tossed. another possibility is just to whitelist the stuff you *do* want to keep. matter of taste.
[15:41] <e-head> there are several .cache directories too.
[15:41] <e-head> sipior: yeah, that's true.
[15:41] <terry> wtbtr: Have you edited the /etc/group file?
[15:42] <e-head> I was hoping someone had done all this for already and would have a nice exclude file I could include.
[15:42] <e-head> ;)
[15:42] <e-head> Somebody probably has one posted on a blog somewhere, if I could only find it.
[15:42] <wtbtr> nope, not that I am aware of.
[15:42] <ruan> will update-manager check for driver updates or does that run seperately?
[15:42] <terry> wtbtr: Did you try:  sudo update-manager ?
[15:43] <sipior> e-head: well, the canonical backup blog entry: http://www.jwz.org/doc/backups.html
[15:43] <wtbtr> yes, updated, rebooted, same is happening.
[15:43] <e-head> sipior: awesome, thanks. I'll check it out.
[15:43] <wtbtr> what is the name of the package that lets you add users and groups?
[15:43] <terry> wtbtr: Well, I dono... just use it from CLI I guess.
[15:43] <alex__> where are the gtk header files?
[15:43] <alex__> namely <gtk/gtk.h>
[15:44] <alex__> i can't seem to find them after intsalling gtk
[15:44] <terry> wtbtr: useradd groupadd
[15:45] <wtbtr> there used to be a gui for messing with the users.
[15:46] <alex__> a more general question: Where the heck does ubuntu usually install software
[15:46] <alex__> i'm getting a little sick of finding things
[15:46] <ruan> there is a gui for messing with users
[15:46] <Pici> terry: You should use adduser and addgroup not "useradd" and "groupadd".  Those will properly setup users.
[15:47] <sipior> alex__: /usr/bin, /usr/lib. try "dpkg -L <package name>"
[15:47] <terry> Pici: Thanks for correction
[15:47] <ruan> system > administration > users and groups
[15:47] <Pici> terry: Otherwise things like /etc/skel/ don'
[15:47] <Pici> terry: Otherwise things like /etc/skel/ don't get copied and things end badly ;)
[15:47] <ruan> aka users-admin
[15:50] <terry> Pici: Well, things don't "end badly", it's just that additional "things" are done when you run adduser ("things" that useradd doesn't do).
[15:51] <ruan> what is the command to open a terminal with a command? [gnome-terminal irssi -c irc.freenode.net]
[15:51] <vooze> hey guys.. how do i check which kernel-version my ubuntu uses?
[15:51] <francesco_> vooze ... uname -r
[15:52] <vooze> francesco_, thanks... seems its time for an upgrade :) i use 2.6.35, and .38 just came out ;)
[15:52] <Guest44455> hello
[15:53] <francesco_> lol no prob
[15:53] <Pumpkin-> vooze: I wouldn't bother unless you really need something in 2.6.35. Going "off-piste" on kernel versions is often a lot more hassle than it is worth.
[15:53] <ruan> vooze: the latest kernel is not neccesserily the best kernel..
[15:53] <Guest44455> I removed Sun Java shortcuts from Gnome menu after I uninstalled... then I installed it again and now I don't sun java shortcuts!
[15:54] <ruan> ^however you spell necesserily >_>
[15:54] <Guest44455> HELP!
[15:54] <Pumpkin-> something in > 2.6.35 even
[15:54] <DJones> !ask | Guest44455
[15:54] <Guest44455> DJones: already asked
[15:54] <DJones> Guest44455: Sorry, I missed that
[15:54] <Guest44455> :p
[15:54] <ruan> Guest44455: try the main menu editor?
[15:54] <Guest44455> ruan: I did they dont show up. but they do in Guest session
[15:54] <terry> ruan  gnome-terminal -x irssi
[15:54] <ruan> terry: thanks
[15:55] <francesco_> system > pref > main menu
[15:55] <terry> np
[15:55] <Guest44455> I reverted the menus to default. still java is gone
[15:55] <Guest44455> I remember I deleted the shortcuts
[15:56] <beer_brouwer> Guest44455: how did you uninstall java?
[15:56] <Guest44455> beer_brouwer: remove --purge
[15:56] <Guest44455> ok
[15:57] <Guest44455> found it
[15:57] <Guest44455> it's in Other menu
[15:57] <francesco_> does any one here dual boot win7 ?
[15:57] <Guest44455> but it does not open
[15:58] <mang0> [thor]
[15:58] <mang0> hey
[15:58] <mang0> whats the other channel name? XD
[15:58] <ruan> mang0: other channel name for?
[15:58] <mang0> #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:58] <mang0> or somthing
[15:58] <Guest44455> francesco_: just create a partition and install it
[15:58] <ruan> !ot > mang0
[15:59] <francesco_> i figure that.. but will it affect my grub ?
[15:59] <mang0> thanks ruan
[15:59] <ruan> francesco_: if you run update-grub yes
[16:00] <Guest44455> francesco_: you should install ubuntu after windows
[16:00] <ruan> francesco_: hmm. you'll need to restore grub if you install windows
[16:00] <Guest44455> !grub2
[16:00] <francesco_> yea thats what i figured ... damn
[16:00] <Guest44455> francesco_: it's easy
[16:00] <ruan> francesco_: just check the restore grub page
[16:00] <ruan> francesco_: it is indeed easy
[16:00] <vooze> Pumpkin-, i know, but i read that the new kernel should make desktop alot faster :)
[16:01] <Guest44455> francesco_: second
[16:01] <francesco_> okay thanks guys... dont wanna install win7 ...but i need my games :P
[16:01] <ruan> francesco_: do they work on wine?
[16:01] <Guest44455> francesco_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#METHOD%203%20-%20CHROOT
[16:01] <francesco_> barely
[16:01] <Pici> vooze: 2.6.38 will be the standard kernel in Ubuntu 11.04, which releases at the end of April.
[16:01] <ruan> francesco_: any instructions for them on appdb?
[16:01] <francesco_> the only one i got to work was counter strike source....
[16:02] <francesco_> all others had serious issues
[16:02] <vooze> hmm Pici.. true, guess its easyer to wait then ;)
[16:02] <ruan> francesco_: did you check appdb for the games?
[16:02] <Guest44455> francesco_: forget ubuntu for gaming. just use windows in other partition.
[16:02] <Guest44455> ex-gamer  :)
[16:03] <Dannyd> is the gaming edition no good?
[16:03] <francesco_> gaming edition ?
[16:03] <ruan> gaming edition? xp?
[16:03] <Dannyd> saw a video on youtube..that boasted of good games
[16:03] <vooze> forget gaming on pc.. buy PS3 or xbox for gaming, and desktop for surfing etc. ;)
[16:03] <Dannyd> no for ubuntu
[16:03] <ruan> lol console
[16:03] <francesco_> i have a ps3
[16:03] <Dannyd> is there nothing like that
[16:03] <francesco_> i hate consoles
[16:03] <ruan> they're expensive
[16:03] <Guest44455> !ot
[16:03] <ruan> esp the games
[16:03] <Dannyd> ok he must have modded it then
[16:04] <Guest44455> ruan: I cant get Java Sun shortcuts back
[16:04] <francesco_> i wish more developers would port over to linux
[16:04] <ruan> Guest44455: have you tried installing it again? which version btw, sun java or openjdk?
[16:04] <Guest44455> (francesco_: they just care about $$$)
[16:04] <Dannyd> Guest44455: system -> Main menu
[16:05] <Guest44455> ruan: sun java
[16:05] <francesco_> i would still buy games if they made it for linux
[16:06] <Abhijit> francesco_, have you been here http://www.ubuntugamer.com/
[16:06] <Abhijit> francesco_, and playdeb.net linuxgames.com
[16:07] <arvin_> hello every body, does anybody know how create L2TP vpn connection from ubuntu????
[16:07] <francesco_> yea .. not a fan of most of those games ... need my black ops :P
[16:07] <Dannyd> can you tell me the name of a really addictive game...native ubuntu please?
[16:07] <Dannyd> super good one
[16:07] <popey> Dannyd: minecraft :D
[16:08] <ruan> not free but still awesome
[16:08] <taiga> hello, is the performance of wubi-installed ubuntu worse than normal ubuntu?
[16:08] <ruan> though this is getting offtopic
[16:08] <ruan> taiga: usually, yes
[16:08] <francesco_> lol my bad
[16:08] <popey> taiga: depends what you're doing
[16:08] <taiga> k, thanks
[16:08] <taiga> old computer 196MB RAM available
[16:08] <Dannyd> popey: ok i will try it...installed M.A.R.S
[16:08] <taiga> 64MB is reserved
[16:09] <ruan> lol what is mars
[16:09] <Dannyd> something lacking though..
[16:09] <needhelp1> hello
[16:09] <popey> taiga: thats not ideal for running Ubuntu
[16:09] <Dannyd> Super tux cart as well.....but the bandicoot one was better
[16:10] <taiga> popey, well what should i be running there then?
[16:10] <ruan> !requirements > taiga
[16:10] <Dannyd> MARS -> spaceshit game -> http://www.ubuntugamer.com/tag/m-a-r-s/
[16:10] <taiga> what should i be running?
[16:11] <ruan> Dannyd: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:11] <ruan> taiga: see the private message from ubottu
[16:12] <taiga> ruan, it said i shouldn't run ubuntu, what should i run instead?
[16:12] <taiga> it didn't say that
in wubi...u cant use some features like hibernate
[16:12] <ruan> taiga: hmm
[16:12] <taiga> sudipta, good to know
[16:12] <taiga> if that's really true
[16:13] <ruan> taiga: it shows the requirements in the private message
[16:13] <ruan> taiga: well, the linked webpage
[16:14] <taiga> ruan, correct, they aren't met, what now?
[16:14] <ruan> taiga: get a better machine or use a lighter distribution
[16:15] <taiga> ruan, i think you're being vague, i hope that didn't insult you
[16:15] <tsnieman> Hey guys :) having a weird dual monitor issue, anyone care to take a look and see if they know of the issue and can point me in the right direction?
[16:15] <cutout> Am not able to enable desktop effects on my computer also the resolution is bad
[16:15] <joe85> My hard drive just failed and I made a backup using sbackup. However when I select the folder I made my backup, it doesn't show any available backups
[16:15] <cutout> can anyone help me?
[16:16] <Chr|s> is there a flavor of ubuntu for Flux?
[16:16] <Jo> Hi, I have an old laptop I wanted to install ubuntu on and I'm not sure what the best way to go about it is.
[16:16] <joe85> never mind, I didn't press apply
[16:16] <ruan> cutout: have you tried to install graphics drivers?
[16:16] <damirock> having some troubles with monitor too. I've got Ati mobility radeon  hd5470 - installed all the drivers required, got Catalyst Control Center, but still can't set the resolution up with my LCD TV connected via HDMI port
[16:16] <damirock> in Windows everything is fine
[16:16] <Pici> Chr|s: Theres fluxbuntu, but I'm not sure if it still being maintained.
[16:17] <ruan> !fluxbuntu
[16:17] <cutout> ruan: there are no additional drivers
[16:17] <damirock> and here i can't adjust it like two double monitors
[16:17] <Jo> It's currently running windows xp, but I wanted to wipe the hd and start over with ubuntu.
[16:17] <Chr|s> yeah, it doesnt look like it is
[16:17] <Jo> There's no cd drive and the bios doesn't let me boot from usb so I'm kinda stuck.
[16:18] <Jo> Anyone have any ideas?
[16:18] <damirock> bios update?
[16:18] <ruan> !lubuntu > taiga
[16:18] <genii-around> Jo: Do you have some desktop box running linux already?
[16:18] <Jo> The only update I've found for the bios doesn't add usb support.
[16:18] <Jo> Nope.
[16:19] <Jo> All my other computers have to have only windows for work.
[16:19] <Jo> Laptop is a Toshiba Portege m200
[16:19] <taiga> ruan, k, i think i'll use lubuntu but it's still kind of heavy, thanks
[16:19] <ericy> Jo: nice.
[16:20] <damirock> and 1 more question. That's about spellchecker. As i'm russian - my system lang is RU. Everything is fine with russian texts, but when i open some documents on english or right now while typing this language in xchat - every word is being highlighted like incorrect
[16:20] <Dannyd> taiga: crunchbang
[16:20] <damirock> so, how can i solve that?
[16:20] <taiga> Dannyd, what?
[16:20] <cablop> one question... i have a spare old computer and wanted to make it run with Ubuntu
[16:20] <ericy> Jo: nice little Toshiba notebook'
[16:20] <Dannyd> you can try crunchbang...i think its still based on ubuntu...super fast
[16:21] <Jo> Oh, wait, the bios update lets me boot from sd cards.
[16:21] <BluesKaj> cablop, how old and what specs ?
[16:21] <taiga> Dannyd, nice
[16:21] <Jo> Would that work?
[16:21] <taiga> based on debian they say
[16:21] <cablop> one question... i have a spare old computer and wanted to make it run with Ubuntu
[16:21] <ericy> Jo: I think you need to attach an external CD.
[16:21] <cablop> i has just 512 MB of ram and old athlon of 1.4 GHz and a Gefore MX440... is that hardware too old to make it run?
[16:21] <Jo> Ericy: I've tried with 2 external drives I have
[16:21] <Jo> computer has issues with both of them
[16:21] <tjiggi_fo> cablop, that's a statement - not a question!
[16:22] <cablop> too old then?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> cablop, your RAM is bit low , ubuntu will run ok on it tho
[16:22] <tjiggi_fo> cablop, that'll run ubuntu, xubuntu even better
[16:22] <Dannyd> Its really fast though...coming from ubuntu I was shocked..
[16:23] <ruan> cablop: yeah, you might need a lot of swap to compensate
[16:23] <dryicebomb> cablop, it should run ok, a bit low on ram, maybe you should look at a xubuntu
[16:23] <francesco_> xubuntu should be okay with it tho cablop
[16:23] <taiga> Dannyd, it's coming from debian
[16:23] <cablop> i have another computer a little less old, with 2 GB on it...  and maybe if i put 1.5GB in one and 1 GB in the older... or beter t keep the 2GB in one of hem?
[16:23] <Dannyd> Ok fine you are right
[16:23] <GaryD> cablop: i am using lubuntu with 512MB RAM. it's like lightning!
[16:24] <taiga> GaryD, how about 196MB RAM then? :P
[16:24] <Jo> So does anyone know if booting from sd cards works?
[16:24] <Dannyd> #!
[16:24] <taiga> 192*
[16:24] <Jo> That might be my only option unless I can get one of my external drives to cooperate.
[16:24] <Chr|s> does ubuntu have just a cli you can login instead of the gnome gui?
[16:25] <ruan> Chr|s: yes
[16:25] <cablop> Jo afaik it works... but not a good idea, SD and Flash cards degrade too fast from writing, so you'll kill your card so fast
[16:25] <maco> Chr|s: hit ctrl+alt+f1
[16:25] <ruan> Chr|s: ctrl alt f1, and ctrl alt f7 to get out
[16:25] <GaryD> taiga: i have used lubuntu on 256, but not any lower, so idk.
[16:25] <Chr|s> nice! thanks guys
[16:25] <ruan> Chr|s: or ctrl alt f8 f9 etc
[16:25] <cablop> Chr|s: just remove gdm and start x only when needed
[16:25] <ericy> Jo: Yes,  booting from sd cards works.
[16:26] <BluesKaj> cablop, I had !G ram on my 6yr pc and it ran kubuntu and ubuntu very nicely , I added another gig and i sped up some , but I noticed that I could run more apps simultaneously without any lag
[16:26] <BluesKaj> 1G
[16:26] <root_> does anyone know how to crack wifi
[16:26] <cablop> Jo just be sure to format it like a hard disk, that is with mbr and partition table, easy to do from disk utility on gnome
[16:26] <root_> ?
[16:26] <katsrc> is there an official PPA for LibreOffice?
[16:26] <joe85> Does anyone know why sbackup just restores empty directories and none of the actual files?
[16:27] <llutz> root_: http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=newbie_guide
[16:27] <Jo> Alright, I'll try that this afternoon.
[16:27] <ericy> Jo: Wait, I assumed you mean to install a Live/CD to SD card, boot that to install unbuntu on your hdd?
[16:27] <Jo> Ericy: Yes, that's what I wanted to do.
[16:28] <cablop> BluesKaj: in your opninion, then it is better to have 1 GB & 1.5GB or 512MB & 2GB
[16:28] <cablop> ?
[16:28] <BluesKaj> 1 & 1.5 cablop
[16:28] <cablop> i just need the old one to lend to my sisters when willing to go online and me unwilling to leave the other computer xD
[16:28] <cablop> and i'm really unqilling to buy old DDR1 RAM
[16:29] <llutz> cablop: then 2+0.5(for your sister) are fine  ;)
[16:29] <BluesKaj> cablop, the diff bewtween 512 & 1G is greater speedwise than 1,5 & 2
[16:29] <cablop> will luks encryption harm he old computer a lot?
[16:29] <cablop> :S
[16:31] <cablop> ok, another question
[16:31] <cablop> an interesting one
[16:31] <ButterPeanut> is der an offtopic
[16:31] <dotlegend> why does ubuntu want to remove packages that work fine after a failed update (partial upgrade)???
[16:31] <ericy> Jo: Do a internet search on: ubuntu on SD
[16:32] <llutz> !ot | ButterPeanut
[16:32] <ButterPeanut> Why can't I find an offtopic thread in the whole node of free?
[16:32] <cablop> i saw that the default  umask is 022, but... i think i should be 002 or 007... are they good enough for the system?
[16:32] <ButterPeanut> #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:32] <cablop> it is so hard to create shared folders due to the current umask
[16:33] <joe85> Apparently there is a bug in sbackup 0.11.3. How can I install a different version if none are available from the Synaptic Package Manager?
[16:35] <cablop> what is your suggestion for the umask on ubuntu?
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[16:38] <komputes> !ops
[16:38] <LoRez> komputes: yes?
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[16:38] <FloodBot3> bambi0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:38] <komputes> LoRez: flooding going on
[16:38] <marienz> yes, we noticed
[16:38] <LoRez> komputes: flooding being dealt with automatically.  anything actually useful?
[16:39] <bl4ckcomb> does anyone have experience with mounting BSD ufs disks in ubuntu? I remember trying this a few years ago, while forum threads claimed it works, but I couldn't manage it back then
[16:39] <Abhijit> hi. anyone used labyrinth mind mapping tool? how to add text to it? help
[16:39] <IdleOne> LoRez: calling attention the the flood was useful to the ops of this channel.
[16:39] <IdleOne> komputes: thank you. being handled.
[16:40] <indrajeet> Abhijit:what do u mean by mind mapping tool?
[16:40] <komputes> sorry if I called every admin
[16:40] <Abhijit> indrajeet, its a new software tool to express ideas - to map the mind in organised way - mind means ideas
[16:41] <indrajeet> Abhijit:okay
[16:41] <indrajeet> Abhijit:is it available in windows?
[16:41] <Abhijit> indrajeet, there are other softwares too e.g. freemind. you can try that too. its very easy to use.
[16:41] <Abhijit> indrajeet, aaaaah. please dont ask me anything about ******* windows
[16:41] <Abhijit> indrajeet, ask to the project owner
[16:42] <ericy> Abhijit: indrajeet: Such as Axon Idea Processor.
[16:42] <indrajeet> Abhijit:sorry
[16:43] <Pici> komputes: using ! ops is okay in this situation, but no need to hilight individual freenode staff members.
[16:43] <ericy> indrajeet: Axon Idea Processor runs on windows..
[16:43] <komputes> Pici: that part was done automatically
[16:44] <Abhijit> hi. anyone used labyrinth mind mapping tool? how to add text to it? help]
[16:44] <indrajeet> ericy:should i use wine to run it?
[16:45] <ericy> indrajeet: In the past I used Axon Idea Processor on windows XP. But I now want to run it in Ubuntu, by wine or other method.
[16:45] <Thedemon007> Hi as I get a card 3d acceleration VX800?
[16:46] <ericy> indrajeet: ...such as VirtualBox or etc.
[16:46] <indrajeet> ericy:okay today i am going to install it
[16:46] <ericy> indrajeet: ...such as VMWare or etc.
[16:47] <indrajeet> ericy:virtual box is better than vmware
[16:47] <Abhijit> hi. anyone used labyrinth mind mapping tool? how to add text to it? help]
[16:47] <Thedemon007> Hello as I get to a vx800 card 3d acceleration?
[16:47] <ericy> indrajeet: noted.
[16:48] <indrajeet> ericy:wine does not work properly
[16:48] <ericy> ok.
[16:49] <id10t> Does anyone know how to install ubuntu 10.10 x64 via a usb on a netbook without getting the error "sorry, the program "parted_server" closed unexpectedly"?
[16:49] <ericy> indrajeet: http://web.singnet.com.sg/~axon2000/
[16:50] <Abhijit> nvm i figured it out
[16:50] <Abhijit> :-/
[16:50] <Thedemon007> Hello as I get to a openchrome vx800 card 3d acceleration?
[16:50] <phonex01> hello guys i need help
[16:50] <phonex01> helloi guys is there any software for ubuntu to extract text from scanned books ?
[16:51] <indrajeet> ericy:thank u
[16:51] <phonex01> i have scanned pages and i want to convert it to text files ?
[16:51] <Ioniz3D> phonex01: OCR ?
[16:51] <phonex01> ya ya i think they call it OCR
[16:51] <ruan> Thedemon007: your sentence does not make sense, do you understand any other languages?
[16:51] <Zaery> Does anyone know if SLI has improved since http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=860&num=1
[16:51] <phonex01> what software in ubuntu can do that ?
[16:51] <indrajeet> ericy:today i will check it
[16:51] <Ioniz3D> https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbwssl.cgi?Gw=ocr+on+ubuntu
[16:52] <arvin_> how can I create L2TP vpn connection in ubuntu??
[16:52] <ericy> indrajeet: You are welcome. Bye.
[16:52] <indrajeet> ericy:bye
[16:52] <arvin_> please help!
[16:52] <itguru> I just need to clarify something, please don't laugh at me ... external esata does not mean that you can plug in an esata portable drive like a USB drive, does it?
[16:53] <arvin_> how can I create L2TP vpn connection in ubuntu??
[16:53] <phonex01> Ioniz3D can you help me about that ?
[16:53] <Ioniz3D> phonex01: i can try
[16:53] <Ioniz3D> phonex01: what do you need
[16:53] <llutz> itguru: it should be usable like usb
[16:53] <indrajeet> arvin_:what happen?
[16:53] <phonex01> i need a tool for OCR ?
[16:53] <MK`> yeah esata is external like usb
[16:53] <Ioniz3D> ok
[16:53] <arvin_> thanks how can I create L2TP vpn connection in ubuntu??
[16:54] <Ioniz3D> phonex01: you have alot of them
[16:54] <phonex01> 35
[16:54] <itguru> llutz: ... then my drive doesn't mount! I see no extra devices, or any data in dmesg :(
[16:54] <Thedemon007> ruan More or less
[16:54] <MK`> is it esata or esatap?
[16:54] <StepNjump> guys, how can I get a floodbot to validate a friend?
[16:54] <Ioniz3D> phonex01: i am gonna look to the most easy to use
[16:55] <itguru> It's esata @ MK
[16:55] <StepNjump> She didn't know the answer to 2*2
[16:55] <arvin_> Is it possible?? to create L2TP vpn connection in ubuntu??
[16:55] <indrajeet> arvin_:i know only p2p
[16:55] <MK`> esata doesn't supply power
[16:55] <Abhijit> indrajeet, ping
[16:55] <sirgad> Hi,
[16:55] <Thedemon007> ruan i need get 3d acceleration have a card vx800 with drivers openchrome
[16:55] <itguru> MK  The external drive has it's own power
[16:55] <MK`> ah
[16:55] <MK`> I don't know then, sorry.
[16:55] <StepNjump> floodbot hello?
[16:55] <phonex01> what about OCRFeeder
[16:56] <StepNjump> floodbot help
[16:56] <Ioniz3D> phonex01: install OCRFeeder
[16:56] <Zaery> Does anyone know if SLI has improved since 2007? it's not very good here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=860&num=1
[16:56] <sipior> arvin_: have a look here: http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/networking/linux-l2tp.html
[16:56] <phonex01> i did but i dont know how to use it ?
[16:56] <Ioniz3D> easy
[16:56] <Ioniz3D> $ ocrfeeder-cli -i input1.jpg input2.jpg -f html -o output.htm
[16:56] <Abhijit> indrajeet, are you there?
[16:56] <gratnam11> hey guys i created and entry in /etc/hosts for <IP_ADDRESS> kannan24.com when i try to ping kannan24 it says unknown host
[16:56] <sirgad> Problem installing Ubuntu to Parallels 4 on OS X 10.6.6.  Boots from Ubuntu iso with error message "(initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system".  ISO passes MD5 checksum.  Any ideas?
[16:57] <gratnam11> what am i doing wrong
[16:57] <llutz> http://code.google.com/p/vpnpptp/
[16:57] <Ioniz3D> phonex01: input1.jpg is the scanned imaged
[16:57] <arvin_> @sipior thanks
[16:57] <Abhijit> gratnam11, try setting <IP_ADDRESS> ??
[16:57] <llutz> arvin_: http://code.google.com/p/vpnpptp/
[16:57] <phonex01> ok
[16:57] <phonex01> then ?
[16:57] <gratnam11> hm
[16:57] <Beacher> goodnight all.
[16:58] <indrajeet> Abhijit:yes
[16:58] <Ioniz3D> phonex01: then execute the command and see you output
[16:58] <Abhijit> indrajeet, may i pm you?
[16:58] <Ioniz3D> phonex01: your text will be there
[16:58] <indrajeet> Abhijit:pm means?
[16:58] <phonex01> ok i will see
[16:58] <Abhijit> :-s
[16:59] <Abhijit> indrajeet, see there will be one mre tab open by my name click on it
[16:59] <arvin_> LLutz: thnkas but i think it relate to pptp not l3tp?!!
[16:59] <Abhijit> indrajeet, its short for private message
[16:59] <george__> pm = private message / personal message
[16:59] <llutz> arvin_: according text to both, pptp AND l2tp
[17:00] <arvin_> oh, i'll try it, thanks llutz
[17:00] <Abhijit> indrajeet, ??
[17:00] <indrajeet> Abhijit:okay
[17:00] <Abhijit> indrajeet, reply there
[17:00] <indrajeet> Abhijit:okay
[17:00] <researcher1> marathi manase?
[17:00] <phonex01> i do that but i have blank file ?
[17:00] <Ioniz3D> phonex01: you have other software with more accuracy just look at the help.ubuntu.com
[17:00] <researcher1> kiti chhaan
[17:01] <Ioniz3D> phonex01: how that ?
[17:01] <Zaery> Does anyone know if SLI has improved since 2007? it's not very good here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=860&num=1
[17:01] <Abhijit> !english | researcher1
[17:01] <Abhijit> researcher1, please stick to the topic
[17:01] <researcher1> ok
[17:02] <indrajeet> Abhijit:what happen friend?
[17:02] <olskolirc> how do I 'ls' just directories please?
[17:02] <Abhijit> aaah indrajeet hey come in pm yaarrr reply there not here
[17:02] <Abhijit> :-/
[17:02]  * Abhijit thinks to write thesis on what is pm and how to use it on irc and.....
[17:02] <e000> olskolirc,  ls -d
[17:03] <olskolirc> yay e000
[17:03] <cablop> will be a noticeable difference between 1.5GB and 2GB of RAM to develop in php and java in a computer?
[17:03] <e000> actually i may be wrong
[17:04] <Abhijit> indrajeet, which irc client yoou are using?
[17:04] <intrader> e000, simple enough - i was going to write it using grep...figure..lol
[17:04] <Thedemon007>  need get 3d acceleration have a card vx800 with drivers openchrome
[17:04] <indrajeet> Abhijit:X chat
[17:05] <Abhijit> indrajeet, cant you see another tab with my name? see in the list where this ubuntu channel name is disbplaed
[17:05] <kauhuk> Hello
[17:05] <thybo> hello. im very new to ubuntu, but hope someone can help me. my wireless network in my computer is broke. so i bought a wireless usb card. but don't know how to install it. it's a asus w-167g and i have linux drivers.
[17:05] <bubblegummybear> hey there
[17:06] <kauhuk> I cant install office 2007 with wine because of the exebutablebit
[17:07] <ruan> kauhuk: you need to make it executable.
[17:07] <kauhuk> i cant
[17:07] <ruan> kauhuk: is this from a disk?
[17:07] <kauhuk> from a disk
[17:07] <ruan> kauhuk: hmm. you might need to mount it
[17:07] <bubblegummybear> that should just work kauhuk, I installed office '07 too
[17:07] <indrajeet> kauhuk:change the permission
[17:07] <Abhijit> aaaaah
[17:07] <Abhijit> i gave up
[17:07] <Abhijit> ok bye indrajeet
[17:08] <Abhijit> bye all. gn.
[17:08] <bubblegummybear> cya
[17:08] <indrajeet> Abhijit:bye
[17:08] <kauhuk> Sorry, could not change the permissions of "setup.exe": Error setting permissions: Read-only file system
[17:09] <kauhuk> and i cannot change it because its read only
[17:09] <bubblegummybear> kauhuk: are you on a guest account?
[17:09] <kauhuk> hmm
[17:09] <kauhuk> no
[17:10] <indrajeet> kauhuk:try to change permission of another .exe software
[17:11] <ruan> kauhuk: have you tried mounting it?
[17:11] <kauhuk> nope
[17:11] <e01> how can i using unity with mutter by default in natty
[17:12] <kauhuk> dont know how to do it in ubuntu
[17:12] <kauhuk> do i need a program for it or is there something already installed?
[17:12] <ruan> kauhuk: preinstalled
[17:12] <ruan> kauhuk: but you can try copying the disk's contents to your hard drive
[17:13] <ruan> kauhuk: then making it executable
[17:13] <jrib> !natty | e01
[17:13] <ruan> kauhuk: might work
[17:13] <danny66RO> hy can anyone help  me config wine and use wine?
[17:13] <ruan> kauhuk: wait
[17:13] <ruan> kauhuk: theres an easier way
[17:14] <snowed> I have installed ubuntu and now i have problem adding windows 7 to grub. Because windows is on other HDD sdb how can i add to grub?
[17:14] <cablop> danny 66RO, just install it on Ubuntu Software Center, open the config settings and you are almost done
[17:14] <indrajeet> danny66R0:have u installed wine on system?
[17:14] <danny66RO> yes but i cant run anything on it
[17:14] <danny66RO> i get a error
[17:15] <indrajeet> danny66R0:permission error?
[17:15] <ruan> kauhuk: in terminal, "wine /path/to/cdrom/installer.exe"
[17:15] <danny66RO> w8 ill try again and copy/paste the error
[17:15] <kauhuk> ok ill try
[17:15] <morissette> hello
[17:15] <danny66RO> he file '/home/danny/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/Diablo II/Diablo II.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[17:16] <danny66RO> thats what i get
[17:16] <snowed> I have installed ubuntu and now i have problem adding windows 7 to grub. Because windows is on other HDD sdb how can i add to grub?
[17:16] <ruan> danny66RO: right click it, permissions, executable check
[17:16] <Polah> danny66ro: Right click > Properties > Permissions > Click the little "executable" checkbox
[17:16] <ruan> properties.
[17:16] <gadek> hello !
[17:16] <indrajeet> danny66R0:go to properties of software and mark it as executable
[17:17] <Jeruvy> snowed: doesn't matter how many disks you have you can only have one MBR.
[17:17] <ohzie> Jeruvy: lol
[17:18] <kauhuk> ok the installer started :D
[17:18] <TroN-0074> snowed I think you will have to re install GRUB
[17:18] <kauhuk> lets see now
[17:18] <jonathandade> Jeruvy: Thats not quite accurate. You can have an MBR per disk and the BIOS should work over each boot option until one is found.
[17:18] <snowed> I have installed ubuntu and now i have problem adding windows 7 to grub. Because windows is on other HDD sdb how can i add to grub?
[17:18] <indrajeet> Polah:thank u for correct way
[17:18] <ohzie> jonathandade: Yes, that.
[17:19] <kauhuk> almost good
[17:19] <kauhuk> cant put in the product key
[17:19] <Polah> You can also do chmod -x to flag files as executable
[17:19] <Jeruvy> jonathandade: having two doesn't work.  Only one will be used.
[17:19] <StepNjump> Hi guys, I have never worked with Wine and I was wondering if these softwares would work under wine: Sony® Digital Voice Editor Version 3.3.01 (Digital Voice Editor Version 3.3.01 - includes drivers) DVESetup_EN_3301.exe or the Sony® Player Plug-in for Windows Media® Player Software PLAYERPLUGINSETUP129.EXE. They both work under WinXP normally just fine. They are to download my small dictation machine that normally connects via USB! Do y
[17:19] <StepNjump> ou think I might get lucky with Wine?
[17:19] <TroN-0074> snowed, look for it and download the guide getting started with ubuntu and the final chapter is a help section for problems like that
[17:20] <ericy> snowed: There is a SuperGrub free rescue/repair disk...
[17:20] <Polah> StepnJump: Look them up on appdb.winehq.org
[17:20] <Pici> !appdb | StepNjump best to check wine's db
[17:20] <gratnam11> whats the name of the package that contains the mail command
[17:20] <MarriedMan> I have a router running dd-wrt w/Samba 3.5.6 (most current version for dd-wrt) and a usb hard drive connected to a usb port on the router.  If I type the command smbclient --list=<IP_ADDRESS> --user=nobody --no-pass i get a list of all the shares.  But if I then go to "Places>Network>Windows Network>Workgroup" it wont list the shares.  However, on my Windows boxes all of them see the shares and I can access them with no problems.  Why cant the Ubuntu box
[17:20] <MarriedMan> es?
[17:20] <StepNjump> Thanks Polah Pici
[17:20] <StepNjump> and Pici
[17:20] <Polah> gratnam11, mailutils perhaps?
[17:20] <Jeruvy> snowed: you need to boot from a livecd and reinstall grub.
[17:20] <StepNjump> Pici, what is !appdb, is it a terminal command?
[17:21] <indrajeet> want to know about backtrack plz help me
[17:21] <safire> why do I have to manually source ~/.bashrc for my rc to be read?
[17:21] <snowed> cant i do it from ubuntu ? whi do i need live cd?
[17:21] <Pici> StepNjump: Its a command for the bot in this channel to tell you about the appdb.  See ubottu's response.
[17:21] <Polah> No, stepnjump, that's just a flag for ubottu. Go to http://appdb.winehq.org and look up the program you want to run on there
[17:21] <nesv> indrajeet: If you want to know about Backtrack, then go to their website, or use their IRC channel.
[17:21] <bubblegummybear> the sound indicator doesn't match the notify-osd one, how come?
[17:21] <Pici> indrajeet: We do not support backtrack here.  Please use their channel; #backtrack-linux
[17:21] <StepNjump> OIC Pici & Polah cool
[17:21] <gratnam11> MerriedMan i been tried to get my usb share to work too
[17:22] <snowed> jeruvy:  cant i do it from ubuntu ? whi do i need live cd?
[17:22] <gratnam11> did u fallow anyy docs
[17:22] <banker247_> hey guys quick question about compiling trying to do this http://www.syntax-k.de/projekte/sdl-opengl-hq/
[17:22] <Jeruvy> snowed: this ensuring none of the disks are mounted.
[17:22] <StepNjump> Pici, Polah.. if my software isn't in the dB, does it mean that it will for sure not run or does it just mean that it wasn't tested yet?
[17:22] <Jeruvy> snowed: ensures*
[17:22] <banker247_> wondering where to apply patch openglhq-1.2.14.diff?
[17:22] <Polah> StepNjump, It'll mean that it hasn't been tested yet. In which case you can try and submit a report
[17:22] <Pici> StepNjump: Means it wasn't tested offically.
[17:22] <nesv> gratnam11: The mail command is provided by the "mailutils" package.
[17:22] <kauhuk> is it possible to put in the product key later? i could not do it at the beginning of installer
[17:23] <kauhuk> so that it works? D:
[17:23] <ericy> snowed:  http://www.supergrubdisk.org    There is a SuperGrub free rescue/repair disk...
[17:23] <gratnam11> thanks nesv and polah
[17:23] <StepNjump> Excellent...  Thanks guys
[17:23] <gratnam11> anybody got the usb to share with ddwrt?
[17:23] <snowed> ericy: allready used it , system only it detects is linux
[17:24] <snowed> ericy: what option should i choose than
[17:24] <Polah> Pici: I'll slow down a bit to give you a chance, I've beaten you to it three times now (:
[17:25] <indrajeet> bye bye friends
[17:25] <indrajeet> see u tomorrow
[17:25] <maz> can anyone give me some help please? i installed ubuntu netbook edition today for the first time.  i got hold of a document for ubuntu beginners and it makes reference to the menubar
[17:25] <nimbiotics> hello everyone. I've got an 602.1Mb iso file I need to email in pieces no bigger than 25Mb. The receiver can only use zip; How do I compress this file?
[17:25] <maz> where is this menubar?
[17:26] <gratnam11> where does the mailbox for post reside
[17:26] <nesv> maz: The menubar is probably the bar along the left-hand side of the screen.
[17:26] <nesv> gratnam11: Do you mean for Postfix?
[17:26] <kauhuk> so
[17:26] <jrib> nimbiotics: if you can only use zip, then use zip
[17:26] <gratnam11> yes
[17:26] <kauhuk> it doesnt work
[17:26] <Trashi> hi. i know via strg alt f1,f2,etc i can switch into another runlevel ... is it possible to deativate these key combinations?
[17:26] <nesv> gratnam11: Have you checked /var/mail ?
[17:27] <kauhuk> i could install the office but it gives me an error
[17:27] <nimbiotics> jrib: darnit, i didnt know it was as easy as that, thx!
[17:28] <jrib> Trashi: those aren't runlevels.  Those are ttys.  And you can disable them by removing/renaming/editing /etc/init/tty*.conf
[17:28] <gratnam11_> but i thought i created with this command sudo useradd -m -s /bin/bash testuser
[17:28] <jrib> nimbiotics: man zipslit  is what you want specifically I guess
[17:28] <nesv> gratnam11: If there is nothing there, check and see if your Postfix install has the MySQL or PostgreSQL modules.
[17:28] <nimbiotics> jrib: there u go again. gracias!
[17:28] <MarriedMan> gratnam11_, I followed a few howto's but not really finding a lot of information regarding it on the internet
[17:29] <ericy> snowed:  Excerpt from: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub-disk/   " -- You have Windows installed in a second hard disk and it does not want to boot. If you swap it from Super Grub Disk you will be able to boot it. -- You can not boot Windows because your MBR is corrupt or Grub installation is not well done or whatever. With Super Grub Disk you will be able to boot the partition where Windows reside. -- "
[17:29] <gratnam11_> MerriedMan atleast you got your windows to see it
[17:30] <gratnam11_> nesv how do check that
[17:30] <nesv> gratnam11_: Are there any messages in /var/mail?
[17:30] <gratnam11_> nope
[17:31] <gratnam11_> i fallowed this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[17:31] <nesv> gratnam11_: Have you checked the postfix configuration file?
[17:31] <gratnam11_> to install postfix
[17:32] <gratnam11_> it says Maildir/
[17:33] <nesv> gratnam11_: Run "find / -name Maildir -type d"
[17:33] <gratnam11_> i foudn /home/testuser/Maildir
[17:33] <gratnam11_> how do i check mail in that directory
[17:34] <nesv> gratnam11_: Okay...so then each user's mail directory is probably in their respective home directories.
[17:34] <gratnam11_> oh yeah
[17:34] <esing123> IS POSSIBLE MAKE NETWORK TRU ROUTER WITH WINDOWS COMPUTER?
[17:34] <gratnam11_> i found it
[17:34] <gratnam11_> i typed in cat and it printed it
[17:35] <esing123> FOR EXAMPLE I DOWNLOAD FILM WITH UBUNTU AND WANT GIVE FILM TO WINDOWS: THEN ME CAN SEND FILM TRU ROUTER?
[17:35] <nesv> gratnam11_: To check mail in ~testuser/Maildir you will probably need to configure a mail client (like mutt, or alpine) to log in as "testuser".
[17:35] <nesv> esing123: Stop typing in caps.
[17:35] <esing123> NESV I DONT UNDERSTAND
[17:35] <nesv> esing123: Stop typing in all capital letters.
[17:36] <gratnam11_> okay
[17:36] <gratnam11_> but thats not what i want though
[17:36] <gratnam11_> i want all the mails in one location
[17:36] <esing123> NESV HOW DO I GIVE FILM TO NETWORK TRU ROUTER?
[17:36] <gratnam11_> need to play arorund with the config
[17:37] <nesv> esing123: Using Samba. Google it.
[17:37] <Pici> esing123: Last warning. Stop using caps or be removed from the channel.
[17:37] <kauhuk> ok now the office programs start but they dont work properly
[17:37] <esing123> WHAT IS CAPS?
[17:37] <nesv> gratnam11_: Do you mean you want all mail, for each recipient in one location?
[17:37] <esing123> THANKS NESV
[17:37] <nesv> *headdesk*
[17:37] <ruan> !caps | esing123
[17:37] <isildur> esing sei italiano? nn puoi scriver maiuscolo
[17:38] <gratnam11_> i want it to have line one maildir/andmanyrecpients
[17:38] <Pici> !it | isildur
[17:38] <gratnam11_> like
[17:39] <nodie> hi there
[17:39] <nesv> gratnam11_: See if this helps, at all http://www.postfix.org/local.8.html
[17:39] <gratnam11_> okay thanks
[17:39] <rlp10> how do you concatenate a string to standard input in bash?
[17:39] <nodie> did the last ubuntu update touch/changed something related to locales?????
[17:40] <nodie> since this same morning I've encoding problems in my django/python apps
[17:40] <ruan> rlp10: what do you mean?
[17:41] <Frxstrem> When I boot my computer, instead of getting the usual graphical login screen I get the terminal. Can someone please help me with this problem?
[17:41] <ruan> Frxstrem: what happens if you type "startx"?
[17:41] <nesv> rlp10: How about "echo $str1$str2"
[17:41] <rlp10> ruan: thanks, but I want to add the string to stdin
[17:41] <MikeChelen> flash keeps randomnly crashing when watching youtube, any suggestions?
[17:42] <rlp10> ruan: echo "1 + 2 + 3 + " | SOME_COMMAND
[17:42] <yofel> rlp10: to stdin of what? to stdin of cat for example would be a pipe: echo $str1$str2 | cat
[17:42] <Frxstrem> ruan: it starts as it normally would
[17:42] <bubblegummybear> MikeChelen: using Chrome?
[17:42] <rlp10> ruan: SOME_COMMAND puts a 4 on the end
[17:42] <MikeChelen> bubblegummybear: nope firefox
[17:43] <yofel> rlp10: and what do you want it to do?
[17:43] <bubblegummybear> MikeChelen: might wanna try Chrome since that comes with a built in flash to provide you with a better experience
[17:43] <nesv> Alright everyone, have a good day/night (whever you are). Lunch break is over; back to work.
[17:43] <bubblegummybear> MikeChelen: or you could make sure you have all the latest updates
[17:44] <MikeChelen> bubblegummybear: ah maybe will try chrome, according to apt-get everything is updated
[17:44] <rlp10> yofel: I want a command that adds a string onto the end of the input piped into it
[17:44] <plusk-> which have the better performance Ubuntu or Mac OSX? i've heard that macosx has some kernel optmizations that make it better to use their hardware. this is real?
[17:44] <bubblegummybear> ok MikeChelen, good luck :)
[17:44] <MikeChelen> bubblegummybear: any other ways to troubleshoot flash on firefox?
[17:45] <yofel> rlp10: aah ok, now I got it
[17:45] <bubblegummybear> plusk-: a more correct way would be that Apple locks it down so OS X runs best
[17:45] <rlp10> yofel: any thoughts, is sed the easiest way?
[17:45] <rlp10> yofel: seems overkill
[17:45] <MikeChelen> might try installing the version from adobe instead of repo version
[17:45] <ruan> plusk-: ubuntu is better imo, but i havent tried mac. too expensive.
[17:46] <bubblegummybear> MikeChelen: probably yeah, but I don't know them XD, if you're not a very dedicated user might just try a different browser (which you will like I think)
[17:46] <TroN-0074> ubuntu is free and if you like the mac look you can install the macbuntu theme
[17:46] <bubblegummybear> MikeChelen: that might help yeah
[17:46] <bubblegummybear> TroN-0074: what if I need something like ProTools? :P
[17:46] <ruan> protools? wats that
[17:47] <Polah> Bubblegummybear: You run it through WINE
[17:47] <Pici> rlp10: Have you asked in #bash ? Perhaps they have a better solution to what you're trying to do.  I can't think of one myself.
[17:47] <bubblegummybear> Polah: good idea :O
[17:47] <TroN-0074> why would you need protools for
[17:47] <MikeChelen> bubblegummybear: ok thanks :)
[17:47] <bubblegummybear> music production ^^
[17:47] <rlp10> Pici: i haven't... i'll go ask there then... thanks everyone for your suggestions
[17:47] <bubblegummybear> np MikeChelen, also check my PM
[17:47] <MikeChelen> bubblegummybear: chrome is great, i'd like to figure out what the prob with firefox is though
[17:47] <yofel> rlp10: me neither, good luck
[17:47] <plusk-> bubblegummybear, locks it down?
[17:48] <TroN-0074> is it like audacity?
[17:48] <bubblegummybear> plusk-: yeah?
[17:48] <Polah> MikeChelen: What plugins are you using for Flash?
[17:48] <dryicebomb> bubblegummybear, if you need protools try ubuntu studio and ardour which is pre-installed with ubuntu studio
[17:48] <TroN-0074> audacity let you edit music
[17:48] <bubblegummybear> TroN-0074: a bit better.. lol
[17:48] <plusk-> bubblegummybear, i didn't understand.. :(
[17:48] <bubblegummybear> lol yeah I know, protools is dope though
[17:48] <MikeChelen> Polah: the nonfree one from adobe, installed through software center
[17:48] <leepa> I have a server that I can't reboot because of a stuck mount command that I can't kill -9 and reboot just hangs... any solution? (assume no physical access)
[17:49] <leepa> all I want to do... is reboot it!
[17:49] <bubblegummybear> plusk-: making it very hard to put something else on it
[17:49] <TroN-0074> but yeah ubuntu studio gives you lots of tools for art and stuff
[17:49] <plusk-> bubblegummybear, ah ok!
[17:49] <plusk-> thanx
[17:49] <bubblegummybear> :)
[17:49] <Polah> MikeChelen: Uninstall it, make sure you have Gnash uninstalled then do sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[17:49] <plusk-> do you have some references about it ?
[17:49] <bubblegummybear> TroN-0074: yeah, it's enough for me
[17:49] <kauhuk> ok i figured out why the office programs have problems
[17:50] <MikeChelen> Polah: pretty sure gnash is not installed, but i'll check
[17:50] <bubblegummybear> plusk-: just google around a bit on setting up Ubuntu to work flawlessly on a Mac :)
[17:50] <TroN-0074> but yeah if you like the mac looks try macbuntu
[17:50] <kauhuk> they are trying to pop up the registration window but it shows up for a sec and dissappears then
[17:51] <Guest40473> How do you change the Hibernate device in 10.10?
[17:52] <Guest40473> The official documentation looks dead & unmaintained
[17:53] <mang0> Hey guys i just downloaded the ubuntu iso, and im having trouble connecting to my wifi is there a way to just search available networks?
[17:53] <platinumeyes> Is there anything i should check before updating from 10.04 to 10.10 using update-manager? in past i always did a complete reinstall, but this time i want to try update-manager.
[17:53] <llutz> Guest40473: change it in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume    and run "sudo update-initramfs" then
[17:55] <ericy> mang0: Which version of Ubuntu, 10.10 ?
[17:55] <mang0> Yes
[17:56] <syrinx_> mang0: livecd/usb?
[17:56] <jayant_> hello. can anyone tell me how can i update a specific application. Like i want to update firefox only and no other thing. How do i do that ? Using the update manager gives a long list of updates. I am using Ubuntu 10.10
[17:57] <mang0> Livecd
[17:57] <th0r> jayant_: use synaptic and just mark firefox for upgrade
[17:57] <syrinx_> mang0: when I installed 10.10 on my netbook, wifi didn't work until I actually installed
[17:57] <mang0> Aw crap
[17:58] <syrinx_> mang0: depends on the hardware, i guess
[17:58] <jayant_> @th0r: you mean synaptic package manager ?
[17:58] <th0r> jayant_: right, right click on firefox and choose update from the menu
[17:59] <jayant_> @th0r: ok thanks
[17:59] <vuln> is there a specific place to talk about Empathy?
[17:59] <mang0> #Empathy
[17:59] <patryk_> Cześc
[17:59] <patryk_> HEllo
[18:00] <crazyharry> how do I remove the password prompt at login to Ubuntu ?
[18:00] <patryk_> can you spek polish
[18:00] <patryk_> i hrlping hoy
[18:00] <patryk_> helping
[18:00] <vuln> The channel doesn't even have a  topic mang0 :(
[18:00] <ruan> crazyharry: check login screen settings
[18:00] <ruan> crazyharry: system > admininstration
[18:00] <dryicebomb> crazyharry, go to system, administration, login
[18:02] <crazyharry> ruan, lemme check thanks
[18:03] <ruan> is !pl polish?
[18:03] <Pici> ruan: yes.
[18:04] <bernard__> hai
[18:05] <ericy> bernard: Hello.
[18:05] <Zaery> Is a live USB drive with persistance slower than one without persistance?
[18:06] <syrinx_> Zaery: probably
[18:06] <bernard__> hallo,ericy
[18:06] <jayant_> @th0r: can i do that from command line ?
[18:07] <ericy> bernard__: Hello.
[18:07] <th0r> jayant_: try 'sudo apt-get update firefox', I think that will work
[18:08] <jayant_> th0r: ok
[18:08] <th0r> jayant_: just make sure it wants to only update firefox
[18:08] <bernard__> :/QUERY ericy
[18:08] <ericy> bernard__: What does that mean?
[18:09] <bernard__> I'm just begin learning .sorry
[18:10] <ericy> bernard__: No problem. Are you just beginning IRC or Ubuntu?
[18:10] <aib> where can I find a list of all possible locales, or at least non-language-specific ones like C and POSIX?
[18:10] <bernard__> both
[18:10] <ericy> bernard__: OK.
[18:10] <bernard__> I like Linuxmint
[18:10] <nimbiotics> I'm trying to use zipsplit, but I'm geting 2 warnings and an error message, show at (http://paste.ubuntu.com/). What am I doing wrong?? TIA!
[18:11] <ikonia> nimbiotics: that is an empty pastebin
[18:11] <syrinx_> lol
[18:12] <nimbiotics> ikonia: THX
[18:12] <nimbiotics> I'm trying to use zipsplit, but I'm geting 2 warnings and an error message, shown at (http://paste.ubuntu.com/581233/). What am I doing wrong?? TIA!
[18:14] <syrinx_> nimbiotics: looks like you need to use -n to set a higher size limit
[18:14] <ruan> syrinx_: lol
[18:14] <ikonia> nimbiotics: error message is quite clear "too big"
[18:14] <syrinx_> 0_o
[18:15] <ruan> nimbiotics: you need to set a -n lower than 24956
[18:15] <ruan> or equal to
[18:15] <nimbiotics> syrinx_: actually, I need them to be no bigger than 25Mb, so originally I sued -n 25000, but everytime I try the command it gives an even smaller size!
[18:16] <syrinx_> nimbiotics: try 24000?
[18:16]  * ruan tries -n 1 just for the fun of it
[18:17] <syrinx_> ruan: please refrain from dividing by zero in the future
[18:17] <ikonia> nimbiotics: I think your pastebin is not true, you're running netsplit about the file suship.zip, however the error of "too big" is about sushi.iso
[18:17] <aib> why don't I have an /etc/default/locale? How can I generate one?
[18:17] <kalimann> hi there, im a newb to linux. im trying to install the eclipse ide for c++, but i dont know what the preferred folder is for unpacking/installing apps
[18:17] <syrinx_> aib: mkdir
[18:17] <nimbiotics> ikonia: thats the only file in sushi.zip
[18:18] <ikonia> nimbiotics: why are you zipping an iso
[18:18] <thebigham> What is the difference between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu alternate version>??
[18:18] <ruan> kalimann: depends how you install it.
[18:18] <ikonia> thebigham: only the installer
[18:18] <kalimann> ruan, tar.gz
[18:19] <nimbiotics> ikonia: cause I need to email the file and the other end (a windows user) can only receive 25Mb files
[18:19] <ikonia> kalimann: install it from the package manager
[18:19] <ikonia> !synaptic | kalimann
[18:19] <thebigham> ikonia, what do you mean?
[18:19] <ruan> kalimann: eclipse ide is on ubuntu software center as well
[18:19] <brightspark> thebigham: alternate CD gives you more installation options but doesn't let you run it as a liveCD
[18:19] <Pici> thebigham: The alternate installer uses the classic 'text mode' installer.  It also doesn't function as a live CD.
[18:19] <kalimann> oh, i just wasnt able to find it
[18:19] <kalimann> thx anyway
[18:19] <ikonia> thebigham: the installer routine is the only difference the end product is the same
[18:19] <ikonia> kalimann: it's in there
[18:19] <bernard__> PART
[18:19] <ruan> kalimann: just search "eclipse"
[18:19] <FunnyLookinHat> I'm transferring files from on HDD to another on my Ubuntu box - for some directories it's super fast and others it takes forever... i.e. we're talking either 5 MB/s or 100 MB/s - all roughly the same size files...  two SATA 3.0 HDDs, any ideas?
[18:20] <ikonia> FunnyLookinHat: seek time on the disk,
[18:20] <thebigham> Oh okay, I have been wondering about that every time when i download ubuntu. Thanks guys
[18:20] <syrinx_> mhmm
[18:21] <FunnyLookinHat> ikonia, ?  Seek time???  These files were all copied at once, so they shouldn't be fragmented or anything...
[18:21] <FunnyLookinHat> So strange
[18:21] <alegend45> Um, Sound Recorder isn't recording with my microphone.
[18:21] <nimbiotics> guess i'll just shsare it w/google docs
[18:21] <ikonia> FunnyLookinHat: they can be on different parts of the disk, so will need to seek
[18:22] <FunnyLookinHat> ikonia, oh - man that's annoying... Thanks for the explanation though :
[18:22] <FunnyLookinHat> :)
[18:22] <alegend45> In fact, it isn't recording at all!
[18:22] <ruan> alegend45: have you tried the sound preferences?
[18:22] <alegend45> NO.
[18:22] <alegend45> OK, thanks!
[18:23] <kalimann> but just a hypothetical question, where does all the programs that get installed go?
[18:23] <Trashi> hi. i want to use the new gnome 3 ... im using ubuntu maverick ... is it possbile to update gnome enviroment?
[18:23] <ikonia> kalimann: all across the file system, not one place
[18:24] <ikonia> Trashi: no
[18:24] <ruan> kalimann: yeah, different places.
[18:24] <Trashi> damn
[18:24] <ruan> kalimann: libraries are stored in /lib or /usr/lib etc
[18:24] <Trashi> ikonia: what is the best way to get gnome 3?
[18:24] <Trashi> ikonia: uninstall gnome and install gnome3?
[18:24] <kalimann> ruan, libraries, defined as in..?
[18:24] <syn-ack> Trashi, you'd have to use the Gnome 3/Gnome Shell PPA
[18:24] <ikonia> Trashi: get a distro that has gnome 3 package by default
[18:25] <ruan> kalimann: libraries for applications.
[18:25] <kalimann> ruan, aight thx
[18:25] <syn-ack> Trashi, and yes it IS possible, just not supported since it's a third party PPA
[18:25] <ruan> kalimann: /usr/lib/ seems to have the most
[18:25] <Trashi> ikonia: whats about unbuntu 11.04 ... will it work with gnome3?
[18:25] <ikonia> Trashi: no
[18:25] <gratnam11_> hey is there a way to add mx records in /etc/hosts or something
[18:25] <kalimann> does all this stuff come by itself slowly? coz man it seems complex
[18:25] <syn-ack> Trashi, so, what ikonia told you, was wrong. Do a little googleing and you will find the PPA
[18:25] <ikonia> gratnam11_: no
[18:26] <gratnam11_> to test out mailsevers localy
[18:26] <ruan> kalimann: for example though, firefox is stored in /usr/lib/firefox-[version]/
[18:26] <ericy> kalimann: The end product is usually in /home/username/.programname/  And the downloaded packages are kept temporarily in /var/apt/cache
[18:26] <gratnam11_> i like to install a back up mail server
[18:26] <ikonia> Trashi: it's not wrong, but if you want to use an untrusted PPA - go for it, follow what syn-ack's suggestion
[18:26] <gratnam11_> and test it localy
[18:26] <gratnam11_> how can i go about doing this
[18:26] <ikonia> ericy: the end product does not go in the home directory
[18:26] <syn-ack> ikonia I told him it was non supported, did I not?
[18:26] <syrinx_> !enter | gratnam11_
[18:26] <Trashi> ok thanks ... so basically its possible to use ubuntu with gnome3?
[18:27] <syn-ack> he asked if it was possible, not that if it was supported, ikonia
[18:27] <gratnam11_> will do ubottu
[18:27] <ikonia> gratnam11_: create an hostfile entry with the same name but different IP as your MX record
[18:27] <ruan> kalimann: applications usually store their settings in /home/user/.program/
[18:27] <syn-ack> Trashi, yes, but again, it is not supported and you do so at your own risk
[18:27] <ericy> I stand corrected (but users config files are as I stated).
[18:28] <kalimann> thx for the info
[18:28] <kalimann> enlightened me indeed (:
[18:29] <Trashi> syn-ack: yes i took note of this ... thanks  @ all
[18:29] <syn-ack> Trashi, and the Gnome3 PPA for Mav hasn't been updated in quite a while, so it's rather lacking
[18:30] <Trashi> syn-ack: i think, its the best to wait until ubuntu supports gnome3 out of the box
[18:30] <syrinx_> ^
[18:30] <syn-ack> Trashi, it won't be.
[18:30] <Trashi> syn-ack: why not ?
[18:30] <syn-ack> Trashi, Natty uses Unity, not Gnome-Shell
[18:31] <syn-ack> Trashi, and as of right now at least, Gnome shell is NOT in the Natty repo
[18:31] <Trashi> syn-ack: aaah ok ... i understand ... so i'll install opensuse ... i think it supports gnome3 ... thanks
[18:31] <syn-ack> Trashi, tbh, I highly doubt it will be either.
[18:31] <ferbiss> hi
[18:32] <ferbiss> i've got a quwstion
[18:32] <ferbiss> question*
[18:32] <syrinx_> shoot
[18:32] <ruan> why do i have to remove gnome-panel if i remove evolution data server?
[18:32] <ferbiss> how can i change sound settings on lubuntu cause alsamixer doesn't works
[18:32] <syn-ack> ruan, Because it's a dep of gnome-panel
[18:33] <Guest40473> llutz: i was able to keep the same UUID for the hibernate device, (no need to update /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume) but suspend still does not work, in pm-suspend.log i get: "s2disk: Could not use the resume device (try swapon -a). Reason: No such device"
[18:33] <Guest40473> with no other error
[18:33] <ruan> hmm.
[18:33] <ferbiss> i've instaled aumix but terminal said that there is no file name like this
[18:33] <ruan> ok
[18:34] <llutz> Guest40473: aren't you using that hibernation-device as swap?
[18:34] <syrinx_> ferbiss: you may want to try #lubuntu
[18:34] <Guest40473> llutz: yes, it shows up in /proc/swaps
[18:34] <ferbiss> what is it?
[18:34] <TrevorBradley> Anyone have any ideas why I might "see through" back areas on the page as if they were transparent with the most recent nvidia drivers?  downgrading to 173 solves the problem.  It looks like the thing behind the screen is fash (I see youtube).  I'm running with a 8400GS.
[18:34] <TrevorBradley> *flash
[18:35] <TrevorBradley> If I try to take a screen cap, the effect doesn't show up in the resulting png.
[18:35] <syrinx_> ferbiss: the lubuntu channel
[18:35] <ferbiss> aa o
[18:35] <ferbiss>  ;)
[18:35] <syrinx_> doesn't seem very active though
[18:35] <Guest40473> llutz: swaps says sda7, and ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ says that the 3b0f54* UUID
[18:36] <Guest40473> maps to sda7
[18:36] <_antant_> Hi guys. I'm having a problem. I'm using a Radeon 5450 connected to my TV with HDMI and I don't get any video after installing
[18:36] <llutz> Guest40473:  and thats the UUID the resume-file contains? no idea what's wrong with that, sorry
[18:36] <genger> is there any way i can get back drag n drop in compiz using the scale plugin ? im on 10.10
[18:37] <Guest40473> yep,  cat /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume     prints RESUME=UUID=3b0f54c5-349b-48a7-a4d8-7bda3b3d9f03
[18:37] <Guest40473> wait
[18:37] <Guest40473> if i need to update initramfs
[18:38] <Guest40473> (or would have)
[18:38] <Guest40473> mean a shutdown/reboot must be required for some reason?
[18:38] <BluesKaj> _antant_, installing  the driver for the radeon ?
[18:38] <Guest40473> so hibernate must still be thinking that this UUID maps to sda8, because that is what it mapped to on boot?
[18:38] <Guest40473> bleh
[18:39] <llutz> Guest40473: that's possible, reboot to check
[18:39] <Guest40473> -_-
[18:39] <_antant_> BluesKaj, yeah on install rather than using the open source one
[18:41] <BluesKaj> _antant_, usually the recommended driver in 'hardware' will work, rather than the one off the website
[18:43] <_antant_> I'll give the open source one a shot. Hopefully it'll help.  Just trying to help.#
[18:46] <ferbiss> quit
[18:46] <skullboy> thx
[18:47] <Pici> skullboy: Presumably follow the instructions from wherever you got it, as I don't see it in the repos.
[18:47] <Karrot> Hi. I'm trying to go from make 3.80 to 3.81
[18:47] <Karrot> i downloaded make 3.81 and ran
[18:47] <Karrot> ./configure
[18:47] <Karrot> make
[18:47] <Karrot> make install
[18:47] <Karrot> and i'm still at 3.80 anything else i should do?
[18:48] <nit-wit> what are you talking about
[18:48] <Karrot> gnu make
[18:48] <nit-wit> of what
[18:49] <Karrot> um of what...?
[18:49] <tdn> Where can I find a new kernel to install in Ubuntu? I would like to try 2.6.38 because of a performance bug I experience in 2.6.35 with dm-crypt/LUKS. Is there a PPA or something like that for new kernel packages?
[18:49] <natrixnatrix89> what's the difference between symlinks and other links?
[18:50] <nit-wit> what is the program personally 3.80 3.81 are just numbers,
[18:50] <Karrot> i have gnu make ver 3.80, wish to go to version 3.81
[18:50] <llutz> !info make
[18:50] <_antant_> ok, I now have video but I've got a purple line down the left of my screen
[18:50] <tdn> natrixnatrix89, symlinks are not "real links" and can thus be seen with various tools like 'ls'.
[18:51] <nit-wit> ah thanks
[18:51] <natrixnatrix89> and what do "real links" do?
[18:51] <Karrot> i'm rebooting my box, trying to see if that makes a difference
[18:51] <tdn> natrixnatrix89, hardlinks are *real* links. That is, inodes pointing to the same actual file.
[18:51] <katsrc> will firefox 4 be incorporated in the next ubuntu relase?
[18:52] <llutz> natrixnatrix89: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_link
[18:52] <natrixnatrix89> thank's
[18:52] <tdn> natrixnatrix89, Google found quick explanation of the difference here: http://www.brunolinux.com/02-The_Terminal/Hardlinks_and_Symlinks.html
[18:52] <Prinler^Lin> Hey everyone, Im running Zoneminder and am working hard to configure the motion detection. I gave it a seperate partition sole use is to store my video files? Can anyone help me save the files to that partition and not the system partition?
[18:53] <tdn> Prinler^Lin, where did you configure ZM to store the files?
[18:53] <Prinler^Lin> default
[18:53] <Prinler^Lin> I didnt  :)
[18:53] <tdn> Prinler^Lin, actually, I think there is a #zoneminder or something like that.
[18:53] <Prinler^Lin> ok lemme look :)
[18:53] <tdn> Prinler^Lin, ok, you *will* have to look at the configuration.
[18:53] <natrixnatrix89> hmm. so If you have hardlink to a file, you can read the file even if you don't have permissions to that file?
[18:54] <Prinler^Lin> tdn ty
[18:54] <tdn> natrixnatrix89, I don't think you can make a hardlink to a file that you do not have permissions to.
[18:54] <natrixnatrix89> tdn: yeah. but you have permission, make a link and change permission, and you can still access it..
[18:54] <natrixnatrix89> that's what I meant..
[18:55] <Karrot> ok, rebooting my box works. I see the version of make that i need
[18:55] <tdn> natrixnatrix89, if you change the permissions on one of them, it will also change on the other.
[18:55] <Karrot> funny, thought that was a  windows thing
[18:55] <tdn> natrixnatrix89, it is *the same file*
[18:55] <natrixnatrix89> oh.
[18:55] <natrixnatrix89> ok
[18:55] <orangutan> hi guys, is there a ppa for maverick with kernel 2.6.38?
[18:56] <natrixnatrix89> now I get it
[18:56] <natrixnatrix89> thanks
[18:56] <aimtrainer> Hi! I'm using a skystar 2 dvb-2 card under 10.10 and it does not work after waking up from suspend to ram. Can anybody please tell how to fix this?
[18:57] <KramB> I have 2 questions.  1). For some reason Compiz will not display the effects I ask it to.  2). Does Task Manager usually take 15% of my CPU to use?
[18:58] <jiltdil> system -->preference-->appereance--> visual effects doesnot changes why ? m using 64bit ubuntu and also i have nvidia installed
[18:58] <orangutan> no one knows about new kernel ppa?
[18:58] <will> Can someone explain to me on how to install Firefox 4 inside Ubuntu? Possibly link me to a guide that can help me.
[18:58] <KramB> Just use Ubuntu Software Center.
[18:58] <Pici> orangutan: You may try the mainline kernel PPA, but that goes with all the normal caveats of using a PPA.
[18:59] <sparky44> just got a kodak easyshareM580 with plugand play download software whats the best way to get around the windoes issue
[18:59] <lusmus> does wine work as if i had windows installed on the computer?
[18:59] <orangutan> Pici: kind of caveats?
[18:59] <KramB> Lusmus: Wine works with only some programs, not all.
[19:00] <Polah> Lusmus: not exactly
[19:00] <Pici> orangutan: PPAs are unsupported third party packages that should be used at your own risk.
[19:00] <Polah> It's a compatibility layer, not a virtual or emulated Windows
[19:00] <jiltdil> why desktop visual effect under system->preference->appereance-->visual effect  doesnot changes,it says Desktop effect could not be enabled
[19:00] <orangutan> Pici: ah, that kind of caveats :D
[19:00] <tdn> How do I install 2.6.38 kernel in Ubuntu 10.10? Is there a PPA?
[19:01] <lusmus> so the best way is to dual boot install one for ubuntu and windows? just to get windows stuff started?
[19:01] <Pici> tdn: See the reponses I just gave to orangutan
[19:01] <ThinkT510> tdn: 2.6.38 is in the next release
[19:01] <nascentmind> Hi. Is it possible to have a cross compiling environment using  debian environment in ubuntu via debootstrap?
[19:01] <jiltdil> any solution ??????
[19:02] <Polah> Lusmus: What do you mean?
[19:02] <Polah> You can't boot them both at the same time to use Windows things, if that's what you just said
[19:02] <Starminn> Polah lusmus: But there is always VMs.
[19:02] <will> lusmus: What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[19:03] <sparky44> can i use windows 7 in MVware player?
[19:03] <Polah> Starminn: Yeah, I mentioned them earlier
[19:03] <lusmus> use windows program on ubuntu
[19:03] <tdn> Pici, ok. What kind of caveats?
[19:03] <will> lusmus: Some program work, and many do not.It all depends on how you configure Winne and your available hardware.
[19:03] <Polah> Lusmus: You can either get WINE which may not work perfectly, or you run Windows virtually in Ubuntu
[19:03] <Pici> tdn:  PPAs are unsupported third party packages that should be used at your own risk.
[19:03] <ThinkT510> lusmus: what one, perhaps there is a native alternative
[19:03] <tdn> ThinkT510, I know. I want to test if it fixes the bugs I experience.
[19:04] <tdn> Pici, ok. Have you tried it?
[19:04] <rojikku> Hm..is there a way I can copy my windows 7 partition into a virtual box without damaging the actual partition in any way? >> Or must I go with windows XP for my virtual box? :/ (Wine doesn't work with everything.)
[19:04] <Auriga> Howdy, Is there a way to open a program, switch desktops, & not have the program follow to that desktop?
[19:04] <Pici> tdn: No. But I'm running Natty on my laptop, so I guess I'm putting up with some issues there ;)
[19:04] <lusmus> or i can use wubi
[19:04] <rojikku> auriga: Right click the bar at the bottom for that program, should be a option for it
[19:04] <connor_> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu 10.10 on my desktop and i need to install java. when i try and install it ut says that the apptitude command was not found. does anyone know of another way i can install java that is not very complicated?
[19:04] <tdn> Pici, I did add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa && apt-get update. But still, the 2.6.38 kernel image package does not seem to be available.
[19:05] <r0ute-ho> connor_: aptitude only has one t
[19:05] <rojikku> connor_: use apt-get instead of apptitude
[19:05] <Auriga> rojikku, What is the option? Sit boy?
[19:05] <will> lusmus: I can honestly say Wine has not worked correctly since the update from version 1.0.1. And above that Wine has had poor gaming capabilities since the Graphics API change from Ubuntu 9.04 and above.
[19:05] <tdn> Pici, ok. How does Natty work at the moment?
[19:05] <Starminn> rojikku Auriga: I think he's talking about how you start it, switch while it's opening, then it finishes launching in a different desktop?
[19:05] <Pici> tdn: There are issues starting gdm at the moment, and possibly other kernel issues.  I haven't rebooted in a few days myself ;)_
[19:05] <connor_> rojikku, thanks ill give it a shot.
[19:05] <rojikku> auriga: It say....Only on this workspace or always on availible workspace
[19:05] <tdn> Pici, ok.
[19:05] <Auriga> Starminn, Yeah you got  it.
[19:06] <sparky44> windows 7 compatability with VM player?
[19:06] <Polah> Will: I'm not sure on how well it works, but there's PlayOnLinux for games
[19:06] <Auriga> rojikku, But that will mean it has to be set every time right?
[19:06] <rojikku> auriga: It is default for me at don't follow, I really don't know. Might depend on your windows manager, not sure...
[19:06] <Starminn> Auriga: Ah, okay. What rojikku was saying was simply when it stays with you after you open it. You can tell it to always follow you. In regards to what you're talking about, though, I don't know but I certainly wish I did. I always just wait until it launches.
[19:07] <sparky44> will; link and instructions for playon here  resolvtek.com/justin
[19:07] <connor_> rojikku, it says the package is referd to by another package.
[19:07] <tdn> Pici, would you say that the new kernel package should be available after running add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa?
[19:07] <Starminn> rojikku: Your computer might be too fast for this to happen, but launch a heavy program that takes a little to launch, and quickly switch workspaces
[19:07] <Auriga> Starminn, I'm playing with Vm's though, meaning there are a lot of reboots, so I am restarting a lot...
[19:07] <rojikku> connor_: I honestly don't know...xD I just use sudo apt-get install (Program name) and etc...
[19:08] <tdn> Pici, these are the results from apt-cache search linux-image: http://paste.adora.dk/P1990.txt
[19:08] <rojikku> starminn: xD Yeah, I have 4 gig of ram and then another 4 gig of swap that doesn't even get used so...xP
[19:08] <Polah> When using dist-upgrade, could I upgrade to 64-bit or would it stay as 32-bit?
[19:09] <Starminn> rojikku: I've got 4 1/2GB of RAM but an older, hyper-threading processor. So try launching some game or maybe Open/Libre Office or something. I'm not sure why it does it, but it's always happened for me.
[19:09] <jiltdil> when i clicking to install update in update manager the update manger window  just flashes  no installation occurs?
[19:09] <AgentTeddie> I have a webcam, but it does not work when I plug it in. It does not work with Empathy or Cheese? Where can I find drivers for it?
[19:09] <will> Polah:PlayonLinux still uses Wine.In Ubuntu 10.04 and above uses a higher version of Wine which has very poor gaming capabilities on older hardware.
[19:09] <Pici> tdn: One moment
[19:09] <Auriga> rojikku, I have no options saying for the window to stay where it is started... Any other ideas?
[19:09] <Polah> Will: Oh, I thought it was something different. My mistake
[19:09] <rojikku> starminn: Lol, I have a fairly new computer so..Btw, know of any way to copy windows 7 into virtual box without damaging it? Really prefer 7 over XP
[19:10] <sparky44> i am unable to change what window i see any hints how to fix?
[19:10] <rojikku> auriga: At the bottom of the screen you right clicked the bar you minimize/select windows with?
[19:10] <jiltdil> when i clicking to install update in update manager the update manger window  just flashes  no installation occurs?help
[19:10] <AgentTeddie> I have a webcam, but it does not work when I plug it in. It does not work with Empathy or Cheese? Where can I find drivers for it?
[19:10] <Polah> Sparky44: How so? The panel window list is gone?
[19:10] <Auriga> rojikku, You said to right click the app no?
[19:10] <syrinx_> jiltdil: any errors?
[19:10] <Polah> AgentTeddie: Google your webcam model alongside "linux drivers"
[19:10] <will> Polah: Lol, it's ok. I know what his main problem would be. Which is and updated version of Wine. And the updated API setup which the new graphics drivers run in.
[19:10] <rojikku> auriga: On the bar representing your ap on the panel at the bottom of the screen
[19:10] <sparky44> panal windo list is there i try to click a windo and it will not go there
[19:10] <Starminn> rojikku: I have heard various rumors of being able to do it, and spoken with a few people who say they've done it in the past but took a *lot* of thinking and fiddling. I, myself, don't know the method and couldn't find it after quite some time of looking, though.
[19:11] <AgentTeddie> I have and I do not get anything, it is a SiGma Micro Usb Webcam
[19:11] <rojikku> auriga: The windows list
[19:11] <AgentTeddie> I cannot find crap
[19:11] <will> Polah: Other than that, common software will usually run in Wine.
[19:11] <jiltdil> syrinx: no errors and also s/w manager s/w also is not installing when i click to install it just flashes
[19:11] <Starminn> rojikku: Have you tried asking in #virtualbox and/or ##windows (preferably the former)
[19:11] <rojikku> starminn: Ah...Well I did it once, just that it wouldn't actually load...and no I havn't tried..
[19:11] <orangutan> Pici: same results here with that ppa
[19:11] <Auriga> rojikku, Yes, I right clicked that. ALl I got was move to, or always on visible workspace, & always on top.
[19:11] <syrinx_> jiltdil: the ubuntu updater or...are you updating with synaptic?
[19:12] <rojikku> auriga: Unclick the always visible, there should be only on this workspace below it, select that
[19:12] <jiltdil> syrinx: ubuntu update now i give sudo update-manager in alt+f2 it starts
[19:12] <jiltdil> syrinx: but how these settings are changed
[19:12] <Auriga> rojikku, Yeah I have that already, but it still opens & follows.
[19:12] <sparky44> polah: window list exists just when i click it wont go to it
[19:13] <syrinx_> jiltdil: what do you mean? probably just needed to run it as root
[19:13] <SudoKing> possible to use gnome without unity in natty release?
[19:13] <jiltdil> syrinx: as before today it works fine without ,means just clicking to install option it start to install
[19:13] <Polah> Sparky44: Try deleting it and readding it to the panel
[19:13] <rojikku> auriga: If it updates while you are on another workspace then it switches automatically, found that with virtual box..I dunno, maybe look in windows manager settings
[19:13] <sparky44> polah how do i re add it after deleating it
[19:13] <tdn> After recently installing the new linux-image-2.6.35-27-generic update, X stopped working. I use the nvidia driver. So that might be related. How do I fix this?
[19:14] <Polah> sparky44, right click > add to panel
[19:14] <syrinx_> jiltdil: I've had issues before with the ubuntu updater; sometimes when I try to update certain packages it locks up, specifically PlayOnLinux
[19:14] <sparky44> polah; thanks trying now
[19:14] <will> Does anyone know if there is ANY way possible to get updates or link to some sort of an update server for Ubuntu 8.10?
[19:14] <ThinkT510> !8.10 | will
[19:15] <syrinx_> will: ayyy, why not upgrade to 10.10
[19:15] <Auriga> rojikku, Nothing in the windows settings.
[19:15] <will> I am running 10.04.
[19:15] <will> I have nothing but issues running my VGA chipset in UXA mode.
[19:15] <tdn> Auriga, maybe he is going for LTS?
[19:15] <will> If i could possibly switch back to EXA or XAA then i would.
[19:15] <jiltdil> syrinx: my account is admiinstartor type then why it is installing s/w only when use sudo in alt+f2
[19:15] <tdn> syrinx_, maybe he is going for LTS?
[19:15] <rojikku> auriga: Windows manager, not windows..right?
[19:15] <tdn> Auriga, that was for syrinx_, sorry.
[19:15] <jiltdil> syrinx:this problem arises from today
[19:16] <syrinx_> tdn: I guess but....
[19:16] <syrinx_> jiltdil: change any settings?
[19:16] <Starminn> SudoKing: Yes, there is. It ships with the option for "Classic GNOME" or you could just install GNOME Shell and set it as default or whatever you wish.
[19:16] <jiltdil> syrinx:no
[19:16] <syrinx_> hmmm
[19:16] <Auriga> rojikku, Correct.
[19:16] <Starminn> SudoKing: But Natty discussion should take place in #ubuntu+1
[19:16] <Pici> orangutan, tdn: I'm not seeing a PPA, but there is this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MainlineBuilds
[19:16] <syrinx_> i don't know what could be the problem; did it update ok just now?
[19:16] <sparky44> polah; did not work
[19:17] <Polah> sparky44: You could try resetting your GNOME panels
[19:17] <rojikku> auriga: Uhm, besides that I am unsure..
[19:17] <jiltdil> syrinx: i am surprised why this is happening
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows a package for autofill webforms?
[19:17] <orangutan> Pici: mainline ppa is for lucid, if i use that and install anyway the kernel may i have troubles?
[19:17] <Auriga> rojikku, Lol okay... Thanks anyways... I'll try & work it out.
[19:17] <sparky44> polah; not used to ubuntu how do i do that
[19:17] <rojikku> auriga: Good luck! ^^
[19:17] <Starminn> !resetpanel | sparky44
[19:18] <Auriga> rojikku, I'm sure it will be needed.
[19:18] <Pici> orangutan: Yes.
[19:18] <xnite> I'm having a problem with locale problems on Ubuntu Server 10.04, I'v tried "dpkg-reconfigure locales" but this is all i get, i'v also installed everything in locales-* lulz... prolly wasn't the best idea. http://pastie.org/pastes/1679695/text
[19:18] <Polah> Ah, thank you Starminn, I was looking up the commands myself
[19:18] <xnite> that past is my output...
[19:18] <will> Will Ubuntu install on it's own partition with EXT3 without interrupting the MBR for Windows 7 or causing 7 to have a fit?
[19:18] <orangutan> Pici: ok, i wait
[19:19] <Starminn> Polah: : ) I figured. IT's a tough one to remember because there's so many synonyms. I always had to look it up myself so I figured I'd try to save some time.
[19:19] <Taurus__> Hello
[19:19] <bubblegummybear> hi
[19:19] <ThinkT510> will: you can choose not to install grub to the mbr in the installer, but you need to configure your current bootloader to boot ubuntu
[19:20] <Taurus__> I'm having some issues with running 3d games, does anyone want to try to help me?
[19:20]  * xnite will brb and can't read scrollup because he does not understand the client all that well... if you have an answer for http://pastie.org/pastes/1679695/text that problem plz pm it to me and i'll try to find the pm
[19:21] <Starminn> Is there a channel for Banshee the media player?
[19:21] <Polah> Starminn: I knew the gconftool --recursive-unset but not the rest of it ):
[19:22] <Taurus__> I just installed a game on nexuiz through the software center, and now none of my games will open
[19:22] <Taurus__> Any ideas?
[19:22] <bastidrazor> !resetpanels
[19:22] <jiltdil> no help?
[19:22] <namnatulco> hey folks
[19:23] <sparky44> recursive-unset command not found
[19:23] <Starminn> Polah: To be honest, I've never noticed any difference from gconftol --recurse-unset and just plain "killall gnome-panel". Killall has always worked fine for me and others. I think Ubottu just likes going overkill.
[19:23] <namnatulco> anyone using wine on 10.10? I'm trying to get my sound working properly, but it doesn't seem to work for wine.
[19:23] <madprops> can this "chromium-browse[2509]: segfault at 28 ip 00007fc63f4ece5e" be a cause for a system crash?
[19:23] <Pici> Starminn: killing gnome-panel won't reset the any changes that you made to the panels since your user was created.
[19:24] <sparky44> polah; recursive-unset command not found
[19:24] <Diverdude> is there any way to undo a rm * ?
[19:24] <Polah> No, sparky: Starminn linked you
[19:24] <bastidrazor> sparky44: did you read what ubottu stated? Polah
[19:24] <Polah> !resetpanels | sparky44
[19:25] <Starminn> Pici: What do you mean? When I run "killall gnome-panel" it resets to how I got it when I first installed Ubuntu.
[19:25] <arand> !undelete | Diverdude
[19:25] <tdn> Pici, did you find out something?
[19:25] <tdn> Pici, you said "one moment".
[19:26] <fesck> bash???
[19:26] <bob__> is this a group meeting or an open one?
[19:26] <Pici> Starminn: It shouldn't.  'killall gnome-panel' just stops any gnome-panel processes.  It doesn't make any configuration changes.
[19:26] <syrinx_> fesck: BASH!
[19:26] <Diverdude> okay....i there anywhere i can set rm to always ask "are you sure" ?
[19:26] <Starminn> Pici: Ah. My memory could just be going. ;)
[19:26] <Pici> tdn: I responded after that:  I'm not seeing a PPA, but there is this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MainlineBuilds
[19:26] <rousing> hello
[19:26] <Diverdude> i=is
[19:26] <syrinx_> bob__: it's a party in here, whats up
[19:26] <tdn> Pici, ok. Thanks.
[19:26] <tdn> Pici, didnt see your msg.
[19:26] <Starminn> Diverdude "rm -i" should do it
[19:27]  * Tekku Good Night yall
[19:27] <bob__> can you play Magic online from ubuntu?
[19:27] <Diverdude> Starminn, well i want it to be a defualt
[19:27] <Pici> Diverdude: alias rm to rm -i or -I (look at the manpage for the difference)
[19:27] <Starminn> Oh, oh, I see what you mean.
[19:27] <rousing> i'm using Bouml (OpenSource Uml modeler) on my ubuntu 10.10 (gnome) the look is really simply ugly (motuf and windows!). Id like to know if some know where can i find some onld Qt3 styles please
[19:27] <Pici> Diverdude: Do you need help setting up an alias to do that?
[19:27] <fesck> кто знает как закладки chromiuma синхронизировать с сервером???
[19:28] <Diverdude> Pici, yes if you have time
[19:28] <Pici> !ru | fesck
[19:28] <syrinx_> bob__: you could use WINE
[19:28] <Guest83824> what is this
[19:29] <tdn> Pici, I am not sure I understand how to use this. Should I be able to use one of these for 10.10 maverick: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.38-natty/ ?
[19:29] <llutz>  rm -i as alias to tm is dangerous if you get used to it and work on sytems without this alias.
[19:29] <sparky44> polah; am i doing this right
[19:29] <sparky44> sparky44@FireHouse:~$ gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel
[19:29] <sparky44> sparky44@FireHouse:~$ killall gnome-panel
[19:29] <sparky44> sparky44@FireHouse:~$ && killall gnome-panel
[19:29] <sparky44> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&&'
[19:29] <sparky44> sparky44@FireHouse:~$
[19:30] <syrinx_> pastebin, next time sparky44
[19:30] <sparky44> how do i do that
[19:30] <arand> sparky44: command is all on one line
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> sparky44: && is used to have multiple commands on the same line
[19:30] <Pici> tdn: I'm not really sure myself either.
[19:31] <bboi> hello everyone
[19:31] <syrinx_> bboi: yo
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> sparky44: it means 'only run the next command if the previous worked okay'
[19:32] <sparky44> actionparsnip; so leave the && out
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> !maverick
[19:33] <Pici> Diverdude: Modify your ~/.bash_profile  Add a line at the bottom that say: alias rm=rm -i
[19:33] <tdn> Pici, :(
[19:33] <Pici> Diverdude: But keep in mind that when you use rm on other systems that setting may not be present.  Also -I might be better.
[19:33] <mrcreativity> im having trouble running a .py file in ubuntu
[19:33] <Pici> tdn: Ask some more, perhaps someone else here has an idea.
[19:33] <mrcreativity> can someone please help me
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> sparky44: in your case with those commands you only need to run it once. Calling that command twice isn't needed
[19:33] <Pici> mrcreativity: What sort of trouble?
[19:34] <tdn> Pici, I will ask again later then.
[19:34] <mrcreativity> i try to run it with python...but nothing happens
[19:34] <mrcreativity> i tried it from terminal
[19:34] <pylix> mrcreativity:did you make it executable?
[19:34] <Pici> mrcreativity: What do you expect to happen?
[19:34] <Diverdude> PicCard, why is -I better?
[19:34] <isildur> ciao
[19:34] <mrcreativity>  its an executable
[19:35] <mrcreativity> it runs a script
[19:35] <pylix> so it ran
[19:35] <Pici> Diverdude: From the manpage: "prompt once before removing more than three files, or when removing  recursively."
[19:35] <pylix> just a python issue
[19:35] <isildur> !it
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> sparky44: the opposite of && is ; which will run the next command regardless
[19:35] <syrinx_> isildur: ?
[19:36] <syrinx_> mrcreativity: is phython installed?
[19:36] <Diverdude> Pici, I dont have this file?
[19:36] <mrcreativity> yes is
[19:36] <sparky44> action parsnip; so im confused what all i sould be putting in one line befor i hit enter
[19:36] <Pici> Diverdude: What shell do you use?
[19:36] <Diverdude> Pici, the normal ubuntu shell
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> sparky44: what are you wanting to achieve?
[19:37] <Pici> Diverdude: Use ~/.bashrc then.
[19:37] <llutz> Diverdude: use ~/.bashrc
[19:38] <jqke> hi guys, i'm having some trouble. I got a toshiba laptop with a broadcom wifi. On windows i have a toshiba software that turn down my wifi card. When a reboot the laptop on ubuntu without reactivating the wifi card, ubuntu won't find any wireless network despite that eth1 appears on ifconfig
[19:38] <jqke> any idea ?
[19:38] <llutz> Diverdude: and "have fun" when deleting directories with >100 files :)
[19:38] <Pici> Diverdude: I use zsh myself, I always forget what the bash dotfiles are.
[19:38] <syrinx_> hivemind Pici llutz
[19:38] <Diverdude> llutz, why? hopefully this will only prompt me once
[19:38] <Zyxzezix> Does anyone know is there are any Linux alternatives to things like http://getcloudapp.com/?
[19:38] <syrinx_> jqke: is Ubuntu installed, or are you running livecd/usb?
[19:38] <llutz> Diverdude: rm -i asks for every single file
[19:38] <Starminn> mrcreativity: Ask in #python?
[19:39] <jqke> syrinx_: installed
[19:39] <Pici> Diverdude, llutz: -i will prompt you for every file, -I will prompt once.
[19:39] <syrinx_> hmmm
[19:39] <inside-out-bunny> jqke: broadcom drivers on linux are extremely unreliable b/c broadcom refuses to release docs.
[19:39] <Diverdude> llutz, that sux, is there any way to make it only prompt once?
[19:39] <llutz> Diverdude: -l
[19:39] <Starminn> Zyxzezix: Ubuntu One?
[19:39] <Pici> mrcreativity: Did you write this python script?
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> Jqke: disable the devices ability (in windows) to wake the system up as well as disable power management
[19:40] <jqke> inside-out-bunny: yeah i figured that i had to download and install the driver manually :/
[19:40] <sparky44> actionparsnip; sent you a messege
[19:41] <llutz> Diverdude: problem is: if you issue an "rm <something>" you're sure you want to delete it. so it will be a reflex to answer "y", that won't keep you from mistakes. imho that alias is pointless (and dangerous if you get used to it)
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> sparky44: i don't read unexpected PMs. I simply close the tab
[19:41] <jqke> ActionParsnip: what do you mean by "desable the devices ability" ? english isn't my native language
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> Jqke:in device manager you can do both
[19:42] <sparky44> actionparsnip;i was trying to be able to open other screens and it was not letting me and after righting those comands i am not getting a bar at all
[19:42] <mrguser> hi
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> !panels
[19:43] <sparky44> actionparsnip; also dont have main top bar
[19:44] <mrguser> u can hack ubuntu irc through nokia e63
[19:44] <sparky44> actionparsnip i did that
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> sparky44: that command will give vanilla panel settings
[19:45] <sparky44> actionparsnip; what does that mean
[19:45] <mrguser> can i know free site to download helloOx2....?
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> mrguser: with tools you can technically do anything
[19:45] <mrguser> how..????
[19:47] <sparky44> actionparsnip; what is vinilla and how do i get things back to normal with working panals?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> mrguser: find tool..use tool
[19:47] <Pici> mrguser: What is helloOx2?
[19:47] <mrguser> Helooooo.......how can i hack my nokia e63 .....???? I m new to this hacking world......
[19:47] <mrguser> Helooooo.......how can i hack my nokia e63 .....???? I m new to this hacking world......
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> sparky44: vanilla is sometimes used to mean default in computer terms
[19:48] <Pici> mrguser: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> mrguser: this is ubuntu support only
[19:48] <isildur> how do i connect my hdtv pen to softwere?
[19:48] <sparky44> actionparsnip; ok but now how do i get stuff back
[19:48] <mrguser> Hey i need help.....
[19:49] <mrguser> Is ther any one to teach me....????
[19:49] <[TK]D-Fender> mrguser: Not here
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Sparky: not sure. If you run: gnome-panel   in a terminal, does it work?
[19:49] <mrguser> ok then how to get another channal then ubuntu...????
[19:50] <[TK]D-Fender> mrguser: /join #someotherchannel
[19:50] <llutz> mrguser: /join ##hacking
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> mrguser: ##networking maybe
[19:50] <isildur> help me anybody?
[19:50] <syrinx_> isildur: what's the problem?
[19:50] <sparky44> actionparsnip; keyshortcut to open terminal please
[19:51] <isildur> i wold connect my hdtv pen to ubuntu
[19:51] <Zyxzezix> Does anyone know if it's possible to emulate TinyGrab's upload functionality using Shutter?
[19:52] <isildur> i don't know  what program i can use
[19:52] <[TK]D-Fender> isildur: What is a "hdtv pen"?
[19:53] <isildur> dtt pen
[19:53] <Will09600> hey, has anyone used remastersys before ?
[19:54] <isildur> digital terrestrian televition
[19:54] <isildur> television
[19:56] <isildur> d-fender can you help me?
[19:57] <[TK]D-Fender> isildur: No, sorry
[19:59] <bubblegummybear> !panels
[19:59] <bhauff> So I have a fresh 10.04.2 server install.  First thing I notice is that there are 4 updates.  Is there a difference between installing updates and doing full upgrades to the next version (like 10.10 or higher).  The commands I have seen the most are apt-get update and apt-get upgrade.  Will apt-get upgrade move me up to the the next release, or just updates packages from my current 10.04.2...
[19:59] <bhauff> ...release?
[20:00] <jrib> bhauff: apt-get upgrade will not move you up to the next release
[20:00] <ohzie> bhauff: should just upgrade your packages that are 'marked for upgrade'
[20:01] <bhauff> Is there a command/process for moving up releases?
[20:01] <ohzie> bhauff: dist-upgrade upgrades your release version I believe
[20:01] <Pici> bhauff: dist-upgrade/full-upgrade will not upgrade you to a new release.
[20:01] <jrib> !upgrade | bhauff
[20:01] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | ohzie bhauff
[20:01] <ohzie> bhauff: what Pici said.
[20:01] <ohzie> :3
[20:01] <maxx0r> i am running ubuntu 10.10 in a virtualbox vm. i configured a network bridge for that guest but after running an update within the ubuntu guest, the network connection was killed. ifconfig eth0 showed an ipv6 address only so i used "ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>" to assign a static ip to that interface. no success, the network conn is dead. what can i do?
[20:01] <bhauff> I don't want to upgrade releases, just install the new updates for my release
[20:02] <coz_> hey all
[20:02] <nsd_> Anyone know what I need to do to make my KDE applications appear themed in Gnome as they would if I was running KDE?
[20:02] <jrib> !apt > bhauff
[20:03] <ThinkT510> !theme | nsd_
[20:04] <nsd_> ThinkT510: No, that's not the problem, I need to know what daemon needs to run for KDE apps to be skinned as they should be, instead of defaulting to some Win9x-looking thing
[20:04] <viewer_> is there a trick to having hyphen arguments in an -exec command in a find command? when i do find ... -exec move -v {} destination \;  i get an error like find: missing argument to '-exec'
[20:05] <Zyxzezix> Is there anything like tinygrab for Linux?
[20:06] <Pici> viewer_: do you have a space between distination and \; ?
[20:07] <help_me> im have uinstalled 10.10 on a computer and when i rebooted i get the error    ERROR:OUT OF DISK.   GRUB RESCUE>     can anyone help with this?
[20:08] <viewer_> pici yes
[20:08] <Gayspy> Is the 11.04 daily build at all usable or should i wait?
[20:08] <Jordan_U> help_me: How did you "uninstall" Ubuntu?
[20:08] <ThinkT510> Gayspy: best to ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:08] <help_me> ummm i meant to say that i installed
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> Gayspy: ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:08] <help_me> it was a mis type
[20:10] <jabba> hello
[20:10] <philipp__> hi
[20:11] <philipp__> Can I start my Linux from a windows over Lan ?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Hi jabba
[20:11] <jabba> where can i change the logo next to the welcome message in gdm greeter for remote XDMCP sessions?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> philipp__: you can use wake-on-lan
[20:11] <jabba> Logo= in custom.conf doesn't work
[20:12] <help_me> i have uinstalled 10.10 on a computer and when i rebooted i get the error    ERROR:OUT OF DISK.   GRUB RESCUE>     can anyone help with this?
[20:12] <philipp__> ActionParsnip I know that I have to activate wake on lan some how in bios, but how exactly can I configure it and which commands do I have to send to my lan to call the wol
[20:12] <sparky44> VMware player?
[20:13] <jabba> Even RemoteWelcome= doesn't set my Welcome Text for me... is there something strange with my gdm?
[20:13] <philipp__> ActionParsnip Actually I want to start my Linux and then have remote access from my windows to it
[20:13] <help_me> i have installed(from a CD) 10.10 on a computer and when i rebooted i get the error    ERROR:OUT OF DISK.   GRUB RESCUE>     can anyone help with this?
[20:13] <philipp__> ActionParnsip Also I want to pull files over to my windows
[20:14] <philipp__> ActionParsnip Will I need samba aswell or is remote access sufficient?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> philipp__: there are apps to send the magic packet. Not sure what its called but software centre should help
[20:14] <ThinkT510> !vmware | sparky44
[20:14] <philipp__> ActionParsnip what abou the wol . You only know that it could help but you dont know how?!?!?!?
[20:15] <philipp__> ActionParsnip do you mean by magic package the signal to the wol ?!
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> philipp__: wake-on-lan and samba are separate technologies
[20:15] <Jordan_U> help_me: That error is usually means you have a buggy BIOS that can't handle large drives properly.
[20:15] <jsemar> I need to set up an smtp server to act as a relay for my ec2 instances, can one of you guys point me to a decent tutorial for that?
[20:15] <philipp__> ACtionParsnip OFC they are
[20:15] <philipp__> ACtionParsnip but my question is if REMOTE controll is sufficient to pull files over to my comp
[20:15] <philipp__> ACtionsParsnip SO I would ___NOT___ need Samba
[20:15] <Jordan_U> help_me: You can work around the problem by creating a small separate /boot partition near the beginning of the drive.
[20:15] <ThinkT510> jsemar: try asking in #ubuntu-server
[20:15] <philipp__> ?! yes ?!
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> philipp__: the message to make a system wake up is literally called a magic packet
[20:16] <philipp__> OK
[20:16] <Trashi> hi, i try to run wine ... when i try to install an application or start a .exe file with the wine loader there is an error: "An error occured" ... unfortunately there is no specific message ... what is the name of the log file, where i have to look for a more specific message?
[20:16] <jabba> no gdm-experts here?
[20:16] <philipp__> ActionParsnip ??
[20:16] <help_me> Jordan_U   /boot with the OS on it?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> philipp__: sure then, samba will give you remote file access :-D
[20:17] <philipp__> ActionParsnip What about the Remote controll
[20:17] <philipp__> ActionParsnip I mean full REMOTE
[20:17] <philipp__> ActionParsnip E.G. controll over mouse
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> philipp__: you can use vino which is in a default install and connect with vinagre (also default installed)
[20:18] <ohzie> jabba: Not many here are experts, but some of us can dig. What's your problem?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> philipp__: depending on your needs there are often sleeker solutionz
[20:19] <philipp__> ActionParsnip Can I send files to my Windows when using vino ?
[20:19] <philipp__> Or do I have only control over the linux mouse ?
[20:19] <Chr|s> Anyway I can change the username I just made or the name of the computer? right now the name on terminal is cjmccormick@cjmccormick.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> philipp__: you may need to share a folder on your win system.
[20:20] <llutz> !hostname | Chr|s
[20:20] <philipp__> ActionParsnip AH okay so I will use both
[20:20] <philipp__> THX parsnip
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> philipp__: you will have keyboard control too via vnc
[20:21] <philipp__> ActionParsnip so On my Windows I use VNC and on my Linux I use vino ?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> philipp__: ssh gives a fileserver as well as being able to run X based apps
[20:22] <Jordan_U> help_me: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CreateBootPartitionAfterInstall
[20:22] <Chr|s> llutz, ok, I did it, but it hasn't changed
[20:22] <llutz> Chr|s: reboot
[20:22] <philipp__> ActionParsnip So first I turn on my BIOS then I install vino and then SAMBA Okay ?
[20:22] <Chr|s> llutz, thanks
[20:22] <ThinkT510> philipp__: teamviewer is available on windows and linux and allows remote control depending on how you set it up
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> philipp__: yes, you will need to enable the remote desktop
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> philipp__: you only need to install samba extra
[20:23] <philipp__> ah okay VINO is already installed ?
[20:24] <philipp__> ACtionParsnip would you recommend me to use Teamviewer as ThinkT518 suggests or should I use VINO ?
[20:24] <lasha> hello guys
[20:24] <lasha> I just with hardship booted ubuntu without grub
[20:25] <ThinkT510> philipp__: i only suggest it because it would be the same thing both ways (may be easier to get on with)
[20:25] <b3lorix> I have gateway m1625 laptop, for some reason once i start using the webcam, the wireless gets disabled. I am running ubuntu10.10 does anyone have a solution for this?
[20:25] <lasha> does anyone know which packages to install from package installer for grub 2 ?
[20:25] <bl4ckcomb> philipp__, use both and discard the one you'll get tired of first
[20:25] <philipp__> Okay
[20:25] <kinglord> I'm looking to try out some alternative battery monitors.  They must have a tray icon.  I'm using LXDE.  Any suggestions?
[20:25] <philipp__> ThinkT518 yea might be, due of the same client
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> philipp__: yes vino is in a default ubuntu install
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> kinglord: lxde has a power meter you can add to the panel
[20:26] <philipp__> So how do I turn on WOL in the OS. BIOS is np but in OS : /usr/local/sbin/ethtool -s eth0 wol g ???
[20:27] <philipp__> I use Lubuntu, but I think it is the same command as in Ubuntu
[20:27] <khamael> when I try to connect my ipod touch, it gives me a Dbus error. what can I do?
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> philipp__: that bit i don't know but i do know its doable
[20:28] <philipp__> Okay
[20:28] <b3lorix> Gateway M1625 laptop, Ubuntu 10.10 when i use my webcam, it disables my wireless, does anyone have a solution for this problem
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> b3lorix: are there any bugs logged?
[20:29] <b3lorix> ActionParsnip: what log would i look under for an issue like this
[20:30] <Jemt> Greetz. How do I clean up package information from "apt-get update", when I'm done installing packages?
[20:30] <lesshaste> I get this weird font/screen corruption using the radeon driver.. has anyone else seen anything like it? http://img857.imageshack.us/f/screenshot1p.png/
[20:30] <BluesKaj> b3lorix, do you have skype installed? if so disable the auto-on in the skype webvideo options
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> b3lorix: i'd shoot for acpi. Possible the webcam sucking power needed by the wifi
[20:31] <edgy> Hi, in ubuntu /etc/init.d/apache status shows only is running but in my rhel it shows lots of details like uptime and requests per second, how can I enable this in ubuntu?
[20:31] <lasha> hey guys, anyone knows how to install grub 2 so it works ? I dont want to see some fatal errors on the next restart :) thank you
[20:31] <mrbrdo> i'm trying to install ubuntu onto USB key with the universal USB installer... but after it starts extracting, after some time i hear the USB drive disconnect sound on Windows.. then after some time the 7zip will give error: The system cannot find the file specified. Please help
[20:31] <saulus> The time in my computer always is unix(0) instead of NOW. Thus on rebooting my sys hangs because of "last mount was in the future". How can I ignore this error?
[20:32] <BluesKaj> !grub2 | lasha
[20:32] <ThinkT510> !time | saulus
[20:33] <saulus> ThinkT510: My desktop battery is empty and when I switch off the computer ...
[20:33] <b3lorix> BluesKaj: yes i know that, but that still doesnt solve the issue of not being able to use my webcam with skype lol
[20:33] <lasha> ubottu: I deleted grub2 wanting to reinstall it because I had boot problems, it was hanging on "_"(blinking) and saying timeout. So I deleted it and then installed the new one, didn't work. Spent 2 hours booting on back to system with the help of liveUSB, so I dont want to shut down computer until i solve grub2 problem :)
[20:33] <saulus> ThinkT510: ntp does not help at the time fstab is read
[20:34] <lathan_devers> ubottu: test
[20:34] <lasha> ThinkT510: I got Thinkpad500 :P
[20:34] <lathan_devers> ubottu: lol!
[20:35] <BluesKaj> b3lorix, have you tried the static version of skype , it's more HW friendly than the other versions
[20:35] <lasha> so no one knows how to install Grub2 ? :D
[20:35] <ThinkT510> saulus: sounds like you need to replace the battery in your bios
[20:35] <lasha> i mean i know how to, but i dont know which one will work
[20:36] <GuyCanada> err
[20:36] <BluesKaj> lasha,which ubuntu are you using ?
[20:36] <lasha> BluesKaj: 10.10 64 bit
[20:36] <saulus> ThinkT510: please be helpful! There must be some mount option ...
[20:36] <GuyCanada> can anyone help me out ive set up to stream media to my 360 through ushare and i see the files on my xbox but they wont play. it says the file type is unplayable but its the same file that will play when i plug it in with a flash drive
[20:37] <gmachine_24> the emperor of japan
[20:37] <BluesKaj> lasha, then grub2 is installed by default unless you chose another booloader during your install
[20:37] <bastidrazor> GuyCanada: is it mp4's or mkv's?