[20:00] <syntroPi> sammy im not sure about that du command but "df -h" shouldnt be 100% for "/"
[20:00] <syntroPi> its full then i think
[20:00] <sammy> syntroPi: thats what df says, yet du only counts 1.3gb of files on the filesystem
[20:00] <sammy> syntroPi: hence why I'm here :D
[20:00] <isank> saiarcot895: how will i be able to install boot repair when i haven't been able to install ubuntu
[20:01] <saiarcot895> isank: you can use the Live USB to get into a "temporary" version of Ubuntu
[20:01] <saiarcot895> isank: it doesn't install anything by itself
[20:01] <isank> saiarcot895: sorry but trying ubuntu is also not working
[20:02] <saiarcot895> isank: from the Live USB? does it give any error message?
[20:02] <wjoosh> saiarcot895: his problem is he gets the live cd to boot, but after selecting form the menu, it just hangs on black screen with blinkin cursor
[20:02] <wjoosh> saiarcot895: (At least that's what he told me)
[20:02] <isank> saiarcot895: yes from live USB and no error message just a screen continuously blinking
[20:02] <travisimo> I know this is a bit off topic, but I just installed Kali Linux, and so far like it more than Ubuntu 13.04.  Are they pretty similar as far as dependencies and compatabilities?
[20:02] <AdvoWork> wilee-nilee, i think this is the one I want http://i.imgur.com/G6Pkg6p.png  whats that?
[20:03] <kostkon> AdvoWork, gnome shell
[20:03] <CaseyA> can I be shown the "rules" of what can and cannot be discussed for this channel?
[20:03] <isank> saiarcot895: yes 'wjoosh' is absolutely right
[20:03] <AdvoWork> kostkon, is it a default in the new version?
[20:03] <kostkon> AdvoWork, no
[20:03] <AdvoWork> easy to enable though?
[20:03] <syntroPi> sammy, hmm on my box "du -kx|sort -n" shows exactly the same that "df -h" shows almost "13172324" and 13G
[20:03] <Jumpy> hello
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> AdvoWork, That is the gnome-shell, I use that one myself, there are a ton of extensions as well.
[20:04] <kostkon> !gnome3 | AdvoWork
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> kostkon, That is athe shell
[20:04] <saiarcot895> isank: I would say that's either a graphics problem (are you using any very old graphics) or some file is missing on the USB (which seems unlikely to me if thing went successfully when installing to the USB)
[20:04] <foobArrr> problem with 12.04 and disk encryption: I just installed 12.04, the (alternate) installer froze for several minutes after asking for the luks passphrase, but afterwards installation went normal. now the installed system also freezes at boot for about 40 seconds after the luks passphrase prompt. you can see the delay in the bootchart, cryptsetup seems to use one cpu core from second 12 to 52. any ideas?
[20:04] <foobArrr> bootchart: http://s3.imgimg.de/uploads/bootcharta5b754afpng.png ; dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5787801/
[20:04] <kostkon> wilee-nilee, wrong person :P
[20:04] <saiarcot895> isank: besides that, I'm not sure
[20:04] <syntroPi> sammy,  have you "cd /" before that "du -kx | sort n" command?
[20:05] <Jumpy> if anyone isn't busy, could I get a hand with installing VNC? I've been having some problems.
[20:05] <wjoosh> isank: saiarcot895 that's a good point, i assume you checked the md5 hash of the install media?
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> heh, it happens, ;)
[20:05] <isank> saiarcot895: graphics cannot be old because the machine was launched in 2012 end
[20:05] <isank> saiarcot895: wjoosh but the same live USB is working on my desktop and virtualBox
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> AdvoWork, THe shell looks the same basically in all releases, the extensions though add stuff to the topbar and to the system making it look different
[20:06] <sammy> syntroPi: yes, sorry, good suggestion but not it. I found out that there were deleted files that have not been fully cleared from teh filesystem because the process ... that either created them or was using them or some such is still running. one was a 17gb log file for splunk :P
[20:07] <sammy> syntroPi, and for those following along at home: if du and df give you wildly different results, try `lsof | grep deleted`
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> AdvoWork, Just for info purposes here is the extensions link.  https://extensions.gnome.org/
[20:08] <wjoosh> isank: you might want to try a 13.04 inscase it's an ubuntu issue with 12.04
[20:08] <syntroPi> isank, you can check it by going into the usb stick root directory and issue "md5sum -c md5sum.txt" and it will check all files on it
[20:09] <genii> xcaliber178: Sorry for lag, my boss is wanting me. I have to go afk a bit.
[20:10] <xcaliber178> genii: No problem.
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> foobArrr, Have you considered just reinstalling.
[20:10] <isank> wjoosh : well i think that is the only thing left to do now
[20:11] <isank> syntroPi : it says OK after every file name
[20:11] <syntroPi> then the data for all the files on it are written correctly
[20:11] <nrthedreamer> in unity panel, is it possible to have separate icons for each window of a program
[20:11] <skinnyblondegirl> blonde
[20:12] <Erwin> Good evening,  I have Ubuntu 13.04 and I just installed Cinnamon 1.8, anyone here knows how to switch from Unity to Cinnamon?
[20:12] <astropriate> I have an init script living in /etc/init/FOO.conf and it works great with ubuntu 12.04, but I can't register the same thing on ubuntu 12.10  because  chkconfig  doesn't exit. Please advise on what to do
[20:12] <th0r> Erwin, the gear icon at the login screen
[20:12] <wjoosh> nrthedreamer: do you mean the launcher bar?
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> Erwin, at the dropdown gear at logn
[20:12] <syntroPi> Erwin, logout and click at that round symbol in lightdm, choose cinnamon and let it rock
[20:12] <Erwin> ok thanks, will try :)
[20:13] <foobArrr> wilee-nilee: I aborted my first installation attempt when it froze and tried again, so I had the problem twice. I'm quite sure the delay during installation and the delay during boot are connected, so I don't think reinstalling will help.
[20:13] <isank> syntroPi: only the very last line says md5sum: WARNING: 1 listed file could not be read
[20:13] <skinnyblondegirl> i have an issue with my acer touchpad have had a look around but the scrolling is not smoothing
[20:13] <nrthedreamer> wjoosh: yes
[20:13] <isank> does that really matter
[20:13] <syntroPi> isank, hmm thats strange indeed
[20:13] <wjoosh> nrthedreamer: I dont know of anything that does it, but that doesnt mean there isnt one: however in 13.04 they added the ability to mouse wheel over the icon to switch between different windows of the same program
[20:14] <isank> syntroPi:but the same live USB works just fine on my desktop and laptops virtualbox
[20:14] <wjoosh> isank: but what if that file is needed for the laptop? which one is it?
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> foobArrr, Ah, I see, your wait for help on this will probably be really long,  would run a thread at the ubuntu forums as well.
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> I* darn I key
[20:15] <syntroPi> isank, well depends on what file that is: did you go to the >>usb sticks<< root directory? look it up with mount
[20:15] <isank> wjoosh: i don't know which file is it because it just says md5sum: WARNING: 1 listed file could not be read without any file name rest all files says OK
[20:15] <isank> syntroPi: yes i was in the root directory
[20:16] <nrthedreamer> wjoosh:oh, that one this is why i used avant, but now i'm on gnome classic
[20:16] <isank> do u guys think i should give a try to ubuntu 13.04
[20:16] <wow050> When I try and launch from a Ubuntu 13.04 USB it says BOOTMGR is Missing
[20:16] <wow050> Any ideas on this?
[20:17] <nrthedreamer> wjoosh: oh that one thing is why i used avant, but now i'm on gnome classic
[20:17] <saiarcot895> isank: not too much difference, so you might as well
[20:17] <syntroPi> isank, you mean "/" or the one that is listed when you issue "mount" for your "/dev/sd?1" usb stick? i would suggest the later
[20:17] <isank> no not "/" but the root dir of the USB
[20:17] <syntroPi> "/" is an aufs merge of tmpfs (ramdisk) and that ro mount of the usb stick
[20:17] <skinnyblondegirl> also does anypne know how to install this driver ? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man4/synaptics.4.html
[20:18] <syntroPi> ok then
[20:18] <wow050> When I try and launch from a Ubuntu 13.04 USB it says BOOTMGR is Missing, any ideas on how to fix this?
[20:18] <nrthedreamer> can unity show the menus in the window itself while not maximized?
[20:19] <wjoosh> nrthedreamer: in 13.04 if you click the icon, it will thumbail the windows, yes
[20:19] <wow050> Anyone?
[20:19] <isank> guys please help me on this i seriously need it
[20:19] <erek> im having a problem with pkg-config or whatever not being able to virtually any library i have installed
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Have you used this usb to do any installing already?
[20:19] <erek> Package alsa was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[20:20] <erek> but alsa is definitely installed
[20:20] <wow050> Yeah, but I did a fresh install on the usb
[20:20] <wow050> Today
[20:20] <erek> and a bunch of other things that are definitely installed
[20:20] <syntroPi> isank, are you sure every file has OK at the end? maybe try something like "md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -v OK"
[20:20] <wow050> wilee-nilee, Yes I have but I did a fresh install of 13.04 on it today
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Could you have installed grub to it by accident instead of the mbr of the installation. Sometimes the usb will show as sda and put grub into its mbr.
[20:21] <wjoosh> syntroPi: I am hoping he doesnt have one of those viaos with the hybrid hard drive - they are basically UEFI RAID instal and that's when people start running away :-)
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> wow050, I would reload the usb.
[20:22] <genii> xcaliber178: Do you have pastebinit installed?
[20:22] <trism> erek: alsa.pc is in libasound2-dev
[20:22] <erek> that's installed
[20:22] <syntroPi> wjoosh, what exactly was the problem while installing? didnt see disk?
[20:22] <wow050> wilee-nilee, I had Ubuntu installed on it but I wanted Windows instead so I deleted my Ubuntu partition and installed Windows but now I need Ubuntu again
[20:22] <trism> erek: what is the output of: which pkg-config
[20:22] <wow050> wilee-nilee, By "on it" I mean on my PC
[20:22] <xcaliber178> genii: i believe so
[20:22] <wjoosh> syntroPi: well he gets a blank screen, blinking cursor, after booting and selecting 'install ubuntu'. no error messages, sadly.
[20:23] <erek> trism: i was wrong, heh
[20:23] <wjoosh> syntroPi: it's not nomodeset
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> wow050, on the usb?
[20:23] <syntroPi> aah was just about suggesting that
[20:23] <trism> erek: find it?
[20:23] <genii> xcaliber178: If so, then: apt-cache policy linux-image* | pastebinit    ...and then to give the URL
[20:23] <erek> trism: yeah
[20:23] <syntroPi> wjoosh, and try ubuntu its same?
[20:24] <wow050> wilee-nilee. No I had Ubuntu previously installed on my PC which I then deleted the Ubuntu partition and installed Windows. Is GRUB on another partition I need to delete or something?
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> wow050, I see, I would just reload the usb if you are getting an boot error, make sure you resize the windows partition with its disk manager, not the ubuntu installer.
[20:25] <Jumpy> Is anyone free? I tried following a tutorial on installing VNC, but it ended up not working correctly in the end.
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Grub is in ubuntu and the mbr of the HD, it sounds like you just need to reload the usb to get a good boot from it.
[20:26] <wow050> wilee-nilee, what do you mean by reload? Like reinstall Ubuntu to my USB?
[20:26] <isank> syntroPi: hey there is a file name which says md5sum: ./pool/main/g/grub2-signed/grub-efi-amd64-signed_1.9~ubuntu12.04.3+1.99-21ubuntu3.9_amd64.deb: No such file or directory
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Yeah, I assume your definition of install means load the ISO to it.
[20:27] <erek> trism: what's the opengl dev?
[20:27] <wow050> wilee-nilee, Why yes it does ha ha! Does it matter if I use 13.04 or 12.10?
[20:27] <syntroPi> isank, that will be involved into uefi boot with security
[20:27] <syntroPi> maybe just find it and drop it in that path?
[20:27] <syntroPi> verify with md5sum then
[20:28] <isank> ok will do that
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> wow050, I would go 13.04 or 12.04. 12.04 is long term support 5 years, so it s up to you really.
[20:28] <stefan-_> any idea why pulseaudio + snd_usb_caiaq gives latencies on 13.04?
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> is*
[20:28] <syntroPi> i did that once (download, write, recheck) and it solves an issue for me
[20:28] <stefan-_> especially when compiz is using cpu time
[20:29] <isank> ok give me some time i will be back
[20:29] <xcaliber178> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5787876/
[20:29] <Jumpy> hm
[20:30] <syntroPi> isank, and also make sure you choose uefi boot when installing it. on some bios firmware you can choose if you want to boot uefi or normal and if you choose normal and then reboot into uefi it fails. but obviously you did already boot into uefi
[20:30] <adie> I was wondering if someone could help me out with libnotify / notify-OSD in C. I can't figure out how to get notifications to merge! plz PM if you can maybe help
[20:31] <syntroPi> in the boot device selection
[20:32] <Jumpy> fuck it
[20:33] <trism> erek: there are several, but usually you want the mesa ones: apt-cache search -n mesa dev;
[20:34] <genii> xcaliber178: So it looks like you have only 4 kernels installed at the moment.  3.2.0-37.58, 3.2.0-45.70, <IP_ADDRESS>.54, and 3.2.0-41.66  ...which one is your uname command reporting?
[20:39] <svendarm> my utserver has a lock-symbol on it, how do i remove that?
[20:39] <aamer> hello room, how can i setup my system locale in a way that makes it correctly display arabic software that doesn't support unicode?
[20:39] <ForkTeam19> Hi peepsols, I'm Fork and I need some help
[20:40] <vlt> !ask
[20:40] <aamer> I did :P
[20:40] <ForkTeam19> IOh okay sorry
[20:41] <syntroPi> aamer,  did you try to add it in system settings?
[20:41] <isank> syntroPi: buddy i think the file itself is corrupted
[20:41] <jan_> good evening
[20:42] <ForkTeam19> Hi
[20:42] <syntroPi> whats "cat md5sum.txt | grep grub-efi-amd64-signed_1.9~ubuntu12.04.3+1.99-21ubuntu3.9_amd64.deb"?
[20:42] <Guest16606> who can help me installing some software packages?
[20:42] <syntroPi> isank ^^
[20:42] <syntroPi> isank, in the usb root dir
[20:42] <svendarm> isnt it ./program to runa  program?
[20:43] <isank> syntroPi:i mean the iso of 12.04 because the hash given on website for the iso differs from the one generated by ubuntu on my desktop
[20:43] <dichotoPangea> Hey, I've been having some trouble with using ffmpeg to record my desktop, can anyone tell me how to fix this error: http://pastebin.com/J9jDkKbE
[20:43] <ForkTeam19> So I was wondering, is it still possible to dual boot an iPhone with android because I have an iPhone 4 and would like to dualboot. If so, may I have a guide.
[20:43] <Guest16606> There is a description of what I intend to install here: http://hci.rwth-aachen.de/fabscan_software
[20:43] <syntroPi> isank, give me that md5sum and i will try to find it for you
[20:43] <aamer> syntroPi yes ofcourse I did, but I actually don't think I'm doing the right thing, I could do it easily with other distros like mageia for example... I don't know what do here! I want English as my display Language, but I still want it to treat programs that don't support unicode as Arabic, that was possible and easy in windows, can I do it here?
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> !ask > Guest16606
[20:44] <isank> syntroPi: the website one or the one generated by me
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> Guest16606, You get help here by stating the problem.
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> to the channel not me
[20:45] <isank> 128f0c16f4734c420b0185a492d92e52 - generated by me
[20:45] <syntroPi> isank, issue "cat md5sum.txt | grep grub-efi-amd64-signed_1.9~ubuntu12.04.3+1.99-21ubuntu3.9_amd64.deb" in the usb root dir and give me output
[20:45] <xcaliber178> genii: 3.2.0-41-generic
[20:45] <isank> okie
[20:46] <syntroPi> aamer, idk but there is also an command line way to install locales, havent done that for your situation though so maybe someone else is of more help
[20:46] <isank> syntroPi:here it is a44fd945c271a3d8e7e7b9de1477fed9
[20:46] <ForkTeam19> Also, I'm a complete newbie to irc, what is the ! in front of some words for?
[20:46] <Guest16606> i want to install the FabScan Software. But what are dependencies and how do I have to install them?
[20:46] <aamer> thank you syntroPi
[20:47] <syntroPi> isank,  http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl/ubuntu//pool/main/g/grub2-signed/grub-efi-amd64-signed_1.9~ubuntu12.04.3+1.99-21ubuntu3.9_amd64.deb
[20:47] <trism> adie: this is a basic python example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5787922/ (basically both notifications need the same title and hint)
[20:47] <Guest16606> i want to install the FabScan Software. But what are dependencies and how do I have to install them? http://hci.rwth-aachen.de/fabscan_software
[20:47] <genii> xcaliber178: Well, looks like the only one to remove then is: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-37*     ... if you: ls /boot   do you see any other ones which are not those 4 numbers from apt-cache? They may have been removed but their files remain because not purged
[20:47] <syntroPi> isank,  mount the stick rw and drop it into the /pool/main/g/grub2-signed/ directory
[20:48] <Dustin> Hi there, I just installed / upgraded Alsa, Skype audio works now, it didn't previously. Now anytime I run a site, that has flash with audio, flash plugin instantly crashes. I have tried reinstalling flash, to no avail. Any help is appreciated
[20:48] <isank> syntroPi:how did u find that so fast
[20:48] <syntroPi> googled for md5sum
[20:48] <adie> :x
[20:49] <isank> syntroPi : does that really works
[20:49] <akurilin> Quick question, what is the latest consensus on how to install flash for firefox in 12.04? I've run into a lot of different options online and am looking for the most popular one.
[20:49] <usercheck_> in ubuntu, is it legal  if i'm check own port for check security?
[20:49] <syntroPi> isank, i think so yes since its exactly the one that provides your signed uefi boot functionality
[20:50] <vlt> usercheck_: ?
[20:50] <eponus> usercheck_: that is nothing to do with ubuntu - ask your local police!
[20:50] <isank> syntroPi: from how many years are you working on linux
[20:50] <syntroPi> isank, recheck with that "md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -v OK" and if fine and you are backed up try installing it again
[20:50] <svendarm> in xchat, can i set my own posts to another color in grey so it is easier to find them?
[20:50] <eponus> usercheck_: Ubuntu doesn't have the sort of license that limits how you may use the software
[20:51] <xcaliber178> genii: I issued sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-37*    and got this: http://pastebin.com/XBxxWjkH
[20:51] <syntroPi> isank, idk 10+ maybe?
[20:51] <isank> syntroPi: man u are the one i need to learn this beast.
[20:51] <isank> can u help me buddy
[20:52] <isank> can u like give me u email id or facebook profile id etc etc
[20:52] <syntroPi> not sure im not experienced with (signed) uefi
[20:52] <isank> just anything for private chat with you whenever i need it
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> Guest16606, This is 3rd party stuff, as a heads up this channel is ubuntu repo orientated 3rd party stuff is generally not supported, I would thisnk the ISO and other things they provide would get you going.
[20:52] <isank> hey its not just abt UEFI buddy it's about linux
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> think*
[20:53] <syntroPi> isank, feel free to always ask me in #ubuntu  if im here
[20:53] <isank> linux is the beast UEFI is just a ego gone crazy thing of those manufacturers
[20:53] <guntbert> isank: it is generally prefered to keep support in the channel
[20:53] <travisimo> will > dd if=/dev/hda of=./part1.image backup my entire SSD?  and if so where does it save the file?
[20:54] <isank> ok no problem i didn't wanted to hurt any one's privacy guys
[20:54] <dichotoPangea> Does anyone know why ffmpeg can't open my X display?
[20:55] <genii> xcaliber178:  So then to examine the: ls /boot do you see any other ones which are not those 4 numbers from apt-cache? If so, then you can safely rm those
[20:55] <ForkTeam19> Anyone know if it still is or ever was possible for android on the iphone 4 through ubuntu?
[20:55] <guntbert> travisimo: if /dev/hda were your SSD (which I doubt) then yes, it would write the image to your current directory
[20:55] <ForkTeam19> Or is that too off topic?
[20:56] <isank> syntroPi:hey the result is 0
[20:57] <xcaliber178> genii: http://pastebin.com/SKvYazBg
[20:58] <travisimo> is there a way I can use the Unix terminal to clone my entire SSD and then boot with a live cd and use the terminal to restore the clone?
[20:58] <OerHeks> !clone
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> travisimo, If you have a place to clone it I would use clonezilla.
[20:59] <genii> xcaliber178: I suspect the "extlinux" may be taking room. do you know what it is?
[20:59] <eponus> travisimo: You can indeed, you can copy with rsync, but then you need to setup the bootloader manually
[20:59] <wow050> wilee-nilee, Just put 13.04 on a different USB and still got BOOTMGR is missing
[20:59] <usercheck_> sorry , my question cannot be understand
[21:00] <ForkTeam19> I must now, of all times, go, Good bye, fellow Ubuntuans!
[21:00] <usercheck_> i'm repeat my question
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> wow050, How did you load it?
[21:00] <travisimo> wilee-nilee I have not tried that yet as it uses a GUI, but I may go that route soon :-)
[21:00] <travisimo> eponus I will look into that
[21:00] <usercheck_> i have install nmap
[21:00] <usercheck_> i want to check my open port
[21:00] <wow050> wilee-nilee, Downloaded the ISO from the site and then used Unetbootin to load it on the flashdrive
[21:00] <usercheck_> to give secure
[21:00] <usercheck_> is it illegal?
[21:01] <eponus> travisimo: google for "full bootable backup with rsync" or somesuch term. its a common trick. However using clonezilla would be easier, as wille-nillee says
[21:01] <reisio> usercheck_: is nmap illegal?
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> wow050, I this a computer that has or had a uefi setup?
[21:01] <Alina-malina> usercheck_, speak here i dont want to pm with you
[21:01] <eponus> usercheck_: Ubuntu does not make any rules like that. Ask your police.
[21:01] <syntroPi> isank, no errors with md5sum now?
[21:01] <isank> yup
[21:01] <Alina-malina> usercheck_, if you have any question regarding coding share here to everyone and stop pm-ing me
[21:01] <isank> no errors with md5sum
[21:01] <xcaliber178> genii: I have no idea what it is, http://pastebin.com/mbPV2DJc
[21:01] <isank> but nothing changed with the installatio
[21:01] <Alina-malina> usercheck_, do you understand english?
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Have you checked the md5sum of the ISO?
[21:02] <isank> its same as before
[21:02] <wow050> wilee-nilee, Not sure what UEFI is or how to check the md4sum.
[21:02] <OerHeks> reisio, in Germany it is, AFAIK http://nmap.org/book/legal-issues.html
[21:02] <syntroPi> isank, well just to make sure have you done a backup of your data? there are strange things happening with uefi variables. some samsung notebooks were bricked beyond repair because they had a bug in their uefi firmware, so anything from now  at your own risk...
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> !md5 | wow050
[21:02] <reisio> OerHeks: wasn't actually asking him that, but whether he was asking that
[21:03] <OerHeks> usercheck_, no problem on your local network
[21:03] <Alina-malina> usercheck_, stop pm-ing me are you stupid?
[21:03] <eponus> reisio: OerHeks some software also in the license says you cannot use it for illegal things or building weapons etc
[21:03] <reisio> eponus: wasn't actually asking him that, but whether he was asking that
[21:04] <usercheck_> sorry , i'm just know if you chat in room
[21:04] <usercheck_> i'm sorry
[21:04] <eponus> reisio: i think he was
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> wow050, What is the usb's partition type, is it fat32?
[21:04] <reisio> eponus: if only I'd asked if you thought he was :D
[21:04] <usercheck_> oerheks thx
[21:04] <wow050> wilee-nilee, NTFS. Im following the guide you linked.
[21:04] <usercheck_> alina-malina sorry , i'm just know if you chat in room
[21:04] <dichotoPangea> Okay, does anyone know what could cause this: [x11grab @ 0x9b4fa20] Could not open X display.
[21:05] <usercheck_> stupied? ,stupied is smart
[21:05] <reisio> dichotoPangea: are you running it from inside X?
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Make it a fat32 then load the ISO again, I would check the sum as well. Not sure any links I gave mention ntfs. I use ntfs on loading W7 or W8 with an extraction to the usb and a boot flag, but fat32 on any others.
[21:06] <usercheck_> stupied is important to get our motivation
[21:06] <syntroPi> isank, have you tried to google if that ubuntu precise is working for your exact laptop model with uefi and signed enabled?
[21:06] <usercheck_> we all are from zero
[21:06] <dichotoPangea> reisio, how do I tell if am? I was just running ffmpeg from a terminal. It's worked before, but I can't find the command that did.
[21:06] <Alina-malina> looks like we have a philosoph here, stop flooding the channel usercheck_  you look so stupid
[21:06] <syntroPi> isank, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[21:06] <reisio> dichotoPangea: xchat is an IRC client for X
[21:06] <genii> xcaliber178: google tells me extlinux is another kind of bootloader. Is the drive you have your Ubuntu on, and which we are looking at, the only bootable drive in the system?
[21:07] <reisio> it runs in X only, mostly
[21:07] <reisio> so you're in X
[21:07] <wow050> wilee-nilee, Ok. Just formatted it to FAT32 and am reinstalling Ubuntu to it
[21:07] <usercheck_> i'm not flooding here,why you say it
[21:07] <isank> syntroPi:yes i did and there only i got nomodeset thing which atleast give me this simple command prompt to use
[21:07] <syntroPi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsSony
[21:07] <dichotoPangea> reisio, so do you know why ffmpeg -x11grab doesn't work?
[21:08] <usercheck_> i'm try to lesson here, don't speak with me alina
[21:08] <SolarisBoy> reisio: do you get an error?
[21:08] <syntroPi> isank which is your exact model?
[21:08] <reisio> dichotoPangea: nope, you could try service lightdm restart
[21:08] <reisio> SolarisBoy: from?
[21:09] <dichotoPangea> reisio, what does that mean?
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Cool, that should be fine, if the ISO is good. UNetbootin is a good loader the only thing I dislike about is not getting the first gui of try or install or check the disc. t can be reached, however  don't know how, if one needs to use that menu or additonal tweaks.
[21:09] <isank> SVE15128CNS
[21:09] <SolarisBoy> your /ffmpeg -f x11grab.+/ command
[21:09] <SolarisBoy> reisio: ^
[21:09] <guntbert> usercheck_: please stop those random comments - this channel is for ubuntu support
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Sorry my I key is problematic, I just ordered a new keyboard.
[21:10] <wow050> wilee-nilee, All good :D
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[21:10] <xcaliber178> genii: it's the only bootable internal drive. I have used a bootable flash drive and a bootable external HDD on this system.
[21:11] <usercheck_> oerheks , i'm try monitor setting in ubuntu, system-->monitors, when i try to right orientation, can we change touchpad axis?,example, x become y, y become x,
[21:11] <reisio> SolarisBoy: never used it
[21:11] <reisio> try grecordmydesktop
[21:11] <isank> SVE15128CNS
[21:12] <isank> syntroPi:SVE15128CNS
[21:12] <eponus> isank: Which version of Ubuntu are you trying to install on that?
[21:12] <SolarisBoy> reisio: oh - pardon - i thought you were saying you were using ffmpeg with the x11 screen grab option
[21:12] <isank> eponus:12.04
[21:12] <SolarisBoy> reisio: oh im good on gtkrecordmydesktop - ffmpeg works magic for me and provided more options
[21:12] <erek> guys, im trying to compile kdenlive myself
[21:12] <genii> xcaliber178: So I'd suggest to sudo apt-get purge extlinux   in this case. If it stalls out, try sudo rm -rf /boot/extlinux  and then follow with sudo apt-get -f install
[21:12] <isank> eponus:do you know abt this laptop
[21:13] <reisio> yes ffmpeg does more
[21:13] <reisio> but how much do you really need a screen grabber to do
[21:13] <eponus> isank: Did you try 13.04?
[21:13] <usercheck_>  i'm try monitor setting in ubuntu, system-->monitors, when i try to right orientation, can we change touchpad axis?,example, x become y, y become x,
[21:13] <reisio> particularly if it doesn't work :p
[21:13] <isank> eponus:nope
[21:13] <isank> eponus:u think it may help?
[21:13] <wow050> wilee-nilee, Ok so I mashed my BIOS key and it went straight to Grub. Gonna try installing it now.
[21:13] <SolarisBoy> thats what i was asking you... why you *think* it's not working ...
[21:13] <syntroPi> isank, yes i got it but its not listed there, you just have to "try ubuntu" maybe?
[21:14] <SolarisBoy> but then you brought up gtkrecordmydesktop which is a non-option atleast for me - so i really dont know - just have a script that calls ffmpeg when i want to screengrab
[21:14] <eponus> isank: I know nothing about your laptop except that the model number of all VAIO contains date, model and country code. That is all.
[21:14] <isank> syntroPi: sorry but i didn't get u clearly
[21:14] <SolarisBoy> the most flexibility i use it for is ease of use - and ease of format changes (try a flv versus a avi)
[21:15] <syntroPi> isank, i cant find if it would work which means you have to try it out like choosing "try ubuntu" at startup and try to get it working in your ram. then you can go ahead and install
[21:16] <eponus> isank: But I can see the laptop is 2012 (that is what the 12 means) and might be newer than Ubuntu 12.04
[21:16] <syntroPi> good point
[21:17] <usercheck_> how to changes x,y axis orientation, when we change monitor orientation in , system->monitors?
[21:18] <isank> eponus: but have they included UEFI support in 13.04
[21:18] <eponus> isank: It will the same as, or better than, it was in 12.04
[21:18] <sienez> hi. how can I run commands each time a user logs out. I want to specify the commands only once for all users
[21:19] <wow050> Anyway to encrypt the harddrive and dualboot with windows 8?
[21:19] <reisio> sienez: mmm, do you know the DE ahead of time?
[21:19] <syntroPi> isank, Support for UEFI SecureBoot appeared in 12.10 and 12.04.2
[21:20] <isank> ok thank u guys , well r u both the regular visitors of this node
[21:20] <syntroPi> isank, maybe thats why you were missing that signed one?
[21:20] <syntroPi> yup
[21:20] <wow050> wilee-nilee: Anyway to encrypt my HDD and dual-boot because its not letting me do it in install.
[21:20] <reisio> wow050: sure
[21:20] <eponus> isank: I think you should try 13.04
[21:20] <sienez> reisio, gmt+1
[21:20] <isank> okay will do that
[21:20] <wow050> Reisio: How would I do this?
[21:20] <reisio> sienez: hrmm?
[21:21] <isank> and guys one more thing do you guys know that xubuntu 12.04 include support for UEFI or not
[21:21] <sienez> reisio, ?
[21:21] <reisio> wow050: same as ever, no doubt
[21:21] <reisio> wow050: the installer isn't giving you the option?
[21:21] <isank> i know its based on ubuntu but may be it is different i just thought
[21:21] <reisio> isank: xubuntu is ubuntu with a different DE installed
[21:21] <xcaliber178> genii: I issued sudo apt-get purge extlinux           http://pastebin.com/MWtgpedf
[21:21] <wow050> Reisio: It is but only if I replace my Windows with Ubuntu
[21:21] <reisio> isank: things like hardware support will be identical
[21:21] <reisio> wow050: why wouldn't you want to do that anyways
[21:21] <dichotoPangea> reisio, here's the whole error I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/nCMmzRA9
[21:21] <syntroPi> isank, as i said uefi is new to me but have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#SecureBoot
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> wow050, I mentioned UEFI earlier, W8 factory installs use this setup it is a gpt partitioning, I am thinking you may have this, it is a bot different, check this link. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI  . Otherwise I have not messed with encryption.
[21:22] <wow050> Reisio: I need to keep Windows for school stuff
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> bit*
[21:22] <eponus> isank: hardware support should be the same, but the installer is different so sometimes there are slight changes. I would be surprised if it made a difference. 13.04 would be my recommendation,.
[21:22] <reisio> dichotoPangea: did you try avconv? Since you've got libav and not ffmpeg
[21:22] <reisio> wow050: that's what VMs are for
[21:22] <isank> syntoPi:actually i did everything according to that article only but it still doesnot work for me
[21:23] <wow050> Reisio: Whats that?
[21:23] <genii> xcaliber178: Yes, so then just manually then to: sudo rm -rf /boot/extlinux
[21:23] <syntroPi> isank, and you did disable secure boot you said?
[21:23] <dichotoPangea> reisio, I'm not sure how to use aconv for recording. I tried a sample command I found and got a similar error, about not getting the X display.
[21:23] <eponus> isank: UEFi support in older linux is buggy, this is to be expected especially if using 12.04
[21:23] <isank> syntroPi:yup also did that
[21:23] <eponus> isank: manufacturers also face the same problem, of switching to a new technology
[21:24] <reisio> wow050: virtual machines
[21:24] <reisio> dichotoPangea: k
[21:24] <isank> ok so 13.04 is the best way to make it i think
[21:24] <isank> thanks
[21:24] <reisio> dichotoPangea: you could ask #ffmpeg or #libav
[21:24] <wow050> Reisio: I remember hearing about those. Its a program that will run Ubuntu while in Windows right?
[21:24] <dichotoPangea> reisio, they on freenode?
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> eponus, Not exactly a accurate statement 12.04.2 has the uefi stuff
[21:24] <reisio> dichotoPangea: sure
[21:24] <genii> xcaliber178: What says the result of: du -h /boot| tail -n1
[21:24] <syntroPi> isank, hmm i would suggest to use startup disk creator to make an x64 stick for ubuntu 13.04 actually because what eponus is saying makes sense
[21:25] <reisio> wow050: or Windows while in Ubuntu
[21:25] <eponus> wilee-nilee: Fully working? :-)
[21:25] <sienez> how can I run commands automatically each time a user logs out?
[21:25] <dman777_alter> does anyone know what echo $TERM shows for konsole?
[21:25] <reisio> sienez: each time a user logs out of ordinary Ubuntu's Unity?
[21:25] <Alina-malina> usercheck_, last warning if you have questions ask in the main channel, i will put you into ignore list if you not stop disturbing me with threads!
[21:25] <sienez> reisio, yes
[21:25] <wow050> Reisio: If I run a Ubuntu VM while in WIndows, will it save all my Ubuntu files and settings and stuff?
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> eponus, THats the rumor, I have not had to mess with it, but 12.04 was a problem on the first realease
[21:26] <isank> syntroPi:is it better than universal usb installer
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> Doh, bad spelling
[21:26] <reisio> dman777_alter: https://www.google.com/search?q="konsole"%20"echo%20term" => https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185582#c2
[21:26] <usercheck_> caused you the problem became big.
[21:26] <reisio> wow050: yes
[21:26] <reisio> ubottu: very useful :p
[21:26] <serpico> hi
[21:26] <reisio> not much chance of that
[21:26] <wow050> Reisio: Whats a good VM that will do this for me?
[21:27] <reisio> serpico: hiyo
[21:27] <xcaliber178> genii: http://pastebin.com/KmXUFKBw and http://pastebin.com/1VCwqG3W
[21:27] <usercheck_> you have tell me with words:idiot, and stupied
[21:27] <reisio> wow050: VirtualBox is the simplest to use
[21:27] <usercheck_> why
[21:27] <syntroPi> isank, its from within ubuntu (if you use virtualbox you can even use exactly the same version). to my experience it always worked for me (once it crashed but redoing it had success)
[21:27] <reisio> wow050: kvm will give you a performance edge, but it's for GNU/Linux hosts only
[21:27] <dman777_alter> reisio: thanks...but i mean by default?
[21:27] <reisio> dman777_alter: hrmm?
[21:27] <wow050> Reisio: Ok ill try out VirtualBox now! Thanks mate!
[21:27] <isank> syntroPi:ok buddy
[21:28] <reisio> wow050: really better to install Windows in a VM on a Linux host, instead of the other way 'round :p
[21:28] <usercheck_> i'm here to learning, not to debate
[21:28] <reisio> Unix makes a more reliable host OS
[21:28] <syntroPi> isank, its abit of work at the beginning but if you succeed you will feel like a pioneer :D
[21:28] <wow050> Reisio: Why do you think that?
[21:28] <isank> syntroPi:hey i don't know much about linux so which way you recommend to go to learn everybit of it
[21:28] <reisio> because it's a better OS :D
[21:28] <genii> xcaliber178: sudo rm -rf /boot/.Trash-0
[21:28] <dman777_alter> reisio: i installed xterm and can't get it out. but i wanted to know what $TERM would be if I never install xterm
[21:29] <syntroPi> isank, to always try to understand what you are doing. sounds a bit weird but its the only way in my opinion
[21:29] <reisio> dman777_alter: probably still be xterm
[21:29] <xcaliber178> genii: ok.
[21:29] <reisio> dman777_alter: any terminal running in X is arguably an "X term"
[21:29] <guntbert> !who | usercheck_
[21:29] <dman777_alter> reisio: ok, thanks. do you konw what gnome shell TERM would be by default? xterm?
[21:29] <genii> xcaliber178: This is a Mac ?
[21:30] <reisio> dman777_alter: probably; could ask #gnome
[21:30] <xcaliber178> genii: no. HP dm3 running Ubuntu 12.04
[21:30] <dman777_alter> reisio: thanks
[21:30] <genii> xcaliber178: OK
[21:30] <usercheck_> ubootu, ok thx for sugestion, i'm sorry
[21:30] <Magicarp> I've re-installed unity and when attempting to run it via terminal I get this http://pastebin.com/2S30nnPT
[21:30] <aamer> if I follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1842951 to purge utorrent server, as far as I can tell, the daemon will still be called each time the system starts up, yes it won't find the needed files but how can I prevent that? and should I?
[21:31] <aamer> AGoodName?
[21:31] <reisio> aamer: huh?
[21:31] <isank> syntroPi:yeah that's good
[21:31] <wow050> Reisio: Why do you think running a Windows VM in Ubuntu is better?
[21:32] <syntroPi> isank, i have to go soon. if i were at your position i would try to install virtualbox and download the latest 13.04 x64 iso. then create new virtual machine and mount that iso as live cd, plug in your usb stick and add it to the usb devices for that machine (in windows installing drivers for vbox maybe?
[21:32] <reisio> wow050: as I said, Unix systems are more reliable as host OSes
[21:32] <eponus> aamer: that guy is special because he installed it without using the software centre or package manager. if you did, it will work properly for you.
[21:32] <isank> syntroPi: but you know i m asking like where to start , learning things good places to know small things about it and etc
[21:32] <reisio> and more efficient :p
[21:32] <guntbert> !ot | wow050 reisio
[21:32] <reisio> guntbert: he asked me, ! man
[21:33] <aamer> reisio eponus it's not available in the software center, so I'm special too lol, so the link shows that I should close the web ui, killall utserver and then delete the files in /usr/bin/utserver
[21:33] <reisio> aamer: what is it you're attempting to accomplish?
[21:34] <isank> syntroPi:time to signout bye bye buddy :) and thanks for all your help
[21:34] <aamer> reisio just wanna remove it and make sure the daemon is not called on system start up
[21:34] <syntroPi> isank then remove usb stick, boot that virtual box, plug it in (it will be grabbed by vbox) and launch startup disk creator in virtualbox ubuntu. it will find that usb drive and suggest to install starup media on it (remove check to keep files its very slow if you leave it checked). then go.. get some coffee, recheck it with md5sum it its done and try to boot from it
[21:34] <eponus> aamer: If they have a .deb download you can use the package manager, even if they are not in the software centre
[21:35] <eponus> aamer: This assumes you installed it from the .deb
[21:35] <reisio> aamer: you sure removing it doesn't remove the init stuff?
[21:36] <svendarm> is there any zigbee support in ubuntu?
[21:37] <eponus> aamer: I've just looked at the download for utorrent server. Yes, you will need to manually remove it.
[21:37] <aamer> reisio no Im not sure but I wanna know how to check that, I mean the init stuff is usually stored in the same  /usr/bin directory? eponus i complied it i dont remember the type of the archive and i can't find it :(
[21:38] <reisio> aamer: no, it's usually elsewhere
[21:39] <svendarm> im trying to run utorrent but when i do ./utserver it just says is not a file or directory, anyone know the problem?
[21:39] <aamer> reisio and eponus thank you both, the question is: how do I check if  utserver is still being calling on system start up
[21:40] <eponus> AaronMT: find utserver
[21:40] <reisio> aamer: pgrep -l utserver
[21:40] <reisio> ps aux | egrep -i 'server|ut'
[21:40] <reisio> etc.
[21:40] <eponus> aamer: that will find where you installed it, not if it's being called
[21:41] <aamer> eponus which "that"?
[21:41] <aamer> eponus I think reisio gave the correct answer right?
[21:42] <eponus> aamer: if it's running as a daemon, then service --status-all to show all running services
[21:43] <genii> xcaliber178: Does: du -h /boot| tail -n1     ...work now?
[21:43] <Dustin> Hi there, I just installed / upgraded Alsa, Skype audio works now, it didn't previously. Now anytime I run a site, that has flash with audio, flash plugin instantly crashes. I have tried reinstalling flash, to no avail. Any help is appreciated
[21:43] <eponus> aamer: then man services to get the flag to turn it off. I don't remember flags offhand.
[21:44] <Global_Radio> is there anyway to output the current temperature ONLY in my city via CLI?
[21:44] <xcaliber178> genii: yes, it outputs "34M	/boot
[21:44] <xcaliber178> "
[21:44] <aamer> thank you eponus :)
[21:44] <eponus> Global_Radio: How are you measuring the temperature?
[21:44] <Global_Radio> degrees F
[21:45] <eponus> Global_Radio: How does the computer know it?
[21:45] <Global_Radio> idk
[21:45] <eponus> Global_Radio: I would recommend you get the temperture from a website with a script, and print it to the terminal. Otherwise you have to plugin a sensor.
[21:45] <genii> xcaliber178: Small but hopefully enough now! To try: sudo apt-get -f install
[21:45] <sienez> i have in my ~/.bash_logout a line mv /tmp/bla.log /usr/share/bla/log but when I log out and back in, the file is still there. I have write permission on it and on target directory as well. whats wrong?
[21:45] <kostkon> Global_Radio, try weather-util?
[21:46] <kostkon> !info weather-util
[21:46] <eponus> Global_Radio: OK, kostkon beats me, use his/her/its solution
[21:46] <kostkon> Global_Radio, give it a try
[21:47] <usercheck_> i have to set monitor orientation from normal to right. its orientation success changed, but can we change touchpad coordinate : x became y,and y became x?
[21:47] <Global_Radio> thanks very much guys
[21:48] <usercheck_> i have setting in, menu ubuntu
[21:52] <usercheck_> i have to set monitor orientation from normal to right. its orientation success changed, but can we change touchpad coordinate : x became y,and y became x?,i'm setting it from menu system
[21:52] <xcaliber178> genii: uname -r     still reports 3.2.0-41-generic
[21:53] <genii> xcaliber178: That's fine. Did the sudo apt-get -f install complete OK though?
[21:54] <xcaliber178> genii: the only errors i see are http://pastebin.com/7iqDYxBe
[21:55] <genii> xcaliber178: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[21:57] <OerHeks> usercheck_, Option "InvX" "boolean" Invert the X axis. >>> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man4/mousedrv.4.html
[21:57] <xcaliber178> genii: http://pastebin.com/2gvx4g2S
[21:58] <hadifarnoud> can someone tell me why this command doesnt work?  grep -v "^#" squid.conf | sed -e '/^$/d' | tee squid.conf
[21:58] <hadifarnoud> I want to remove comments and write output to original file
[21:58] <OerHeks> usercheck_, so there must be something equal for touhpad too
[21:59] <genii> xcaliber178: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-45*
[21:59] <ejv> #bash might be better suited for scripting support
[21:59] <genii> xcaliber178: ( and tell the result please )
[22:00] <svendarm> So, ok, terribly unspecified question but do you know the song from somtime the last 3 years where a woman(white it I think) sings and then a black man comes in something like "wake up your..." ?
[22:00] <xcaliber178> genii: Output: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic_3.2.0-45.70_amd64.deb
[22:00] <ejv> !offtopic | svendarm
[22:00] <genii> xcaliber178: sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic_3.2.0-45.70_amd64.deb
[22:01] <usercheck_> Oerheks, ok , thx. i will try learn your sugestion,
[22:01] <symb0l> are the dbgsym packages for 3.8.0-25-generic available anywhere?
[22:02] <matti45> hello
[22:03]  * genii gets more coffee
[22:04] <xcaliber178> genii: http://pastebin.com/5JEcZYtP
[22:08] <matti45> ?
[22:08] <genii> xcaliber178: Good, it's installed. Now to try again: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[22:10] <erek> i finally got kdenlive to work with bezier curves
[22:10] <erek> had to compile all of it
[22:12] <Dustin> Hi there, I just installed / upgraded Alsa, Skype audio works now, it didn't previously. Now anytime I run a site, that has flash with audio, flash plugin instantly crashes. I have tried reinstalling flash, to no avail. Google chrome works fine, no flash crashes. Any help is appreciated.
[22:13] <xcaliber178> genii: http://pastebin.com/WtpKENnB
[22:13] <reisio> Dustin: google chrome flash works fine, or...?
[22:14] <eponus> Dustbin: I presume you have alreadly considered  and rejected "switch browser" ?
[22:14] <Dustin> reisio: yes. Not on FireFox though (preferred browser)
[22:14] <Dustin> yes
[22:14] <reisio> Dustin: k
[22:14] <reisio> Dustin: those use different versions of Flash, for starters
[22:15] <reisio> Dustin: you might want to double check that you have as much OSS stuff disabled (lsmod | grep -i oss), etc.
[22:15] <reisio> (as possible)
[22:15] <genii> xcaliber178: Looks like it got cut off at: Setting up linux-image-generic (<IP_ADDRESS>.54) ...         ...did it finish OK without errors is the important thing
[22:16] <xcaliber178> genii: thats the whole thing.
[22:16] <xcaliber178> thats all it said
[22:17] <ThePendulum> How can I solve the issue with "the keyring did not get unlocked" or something? I think it shows up when starting Chrome, but I'm not sure if it's bound to that
[22:17] <genii> xcaliber178: And then it came back to joe@joe-hp:~$   ..?
[22:18] <xcaliber178> genii: yea...odd
[22:19] <genii> xcaliber178: No, that is the usual. It will never usually say something like "Hey things went well and i finished OK". If it returns to prompt, it implicitly finished OK. It's when you get error messages , then to worry!
[22:20] <genii> xcaliber178: If you reboot now you should have the newer kernel installed
[22:20] <reisio> actually, it's when something you want to happen isn't happening that you should really worry :)
[22:20] <reisio> outside of wanting a message to say "hey it's working!" that is :p
[22:22] <xcaliber178> genii: alright cool. thanks :) time to reboot
[22:25] <JoshuaP> How would one go about installing the one called "eventedobject"?
[22:26] <Dustin> reisio: I'm new to linux, so not sure what lsmod | grep -i oss would even do. I've tried reinstalling FF and Flash, but no dice.
[22:26] <trism> symb0l: don't know if you found them already, but they are here: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/
[22:26] <reisio> Dustin: it'd see if any kernel modules related to OSS are loaded
[22:27] <symb0l> trism, wow.  no had no luck.  thank you!
[22:31] <kostkon> Dustin, first of all, i don't believe you really needed to update your alsa to make skype work. secondly, you have to tell us in detail what changes you have made to your system, and more specifically your audio stack, until now
[22:32] <kostkon> Dustin, then we might be able to help you
[22:32] <histo> Dustin: Chrome possibly has an updated version of flash.
[22:32] <reisio> it has an entirely different version
[22:34] <Dustin> kostkon: well, updating resolved the issues I was having with Skype.  As I stated, the only thing I have done, was ran this: http://www.stchman.com/alsa_update.html  - After running the shell script, flash started crashing in FireFox instantly. Seems to be with anything that contains audio.
[22:36] <kostkon> Dustin, and what exactly exactly was the problem with skype
[22:38] <Dustin> kostkon: No audio was functioning (mic / sound). I read a few posts, which lead me to that script. After running it and rebooting, skype worked.
[22:38] <Dustin> the audio / mic
[22:38] <kostkon> Dustin, and stopped working elsewhere
[22:40] <Dustin> kostkon: Fixed one issue, opened up another. FireFox and flash worked fine prior.
[22:40] <eponus> *sigh* flash, even adobe wants done with it, but it won't die!
[22:42] <kion> I have a computer that shows no network device found even though i have wireless how can i fix this
[22:42] <reisio> continuing to use it should help :p
[22:43] <reisio> kion: what shows no network device found?
[22:43] <kion> the laptop?
[22:43] <reisio> kion: what program, interface, or command
[22:43] <kion> ubuntu 13.04
[22:43] <reisio> kion: what laptop is it?
[22:44] <kion> when i click on the wireless icon at the top of the desktop thing
[22:44] <reisio> kion: what laptop is it?
[22:44] <kion> i can not find a model number i just know it is a dell
[22:45] <reisio> kion: look on the bottom
[22:45] <kion> i did
[22:46] <reisio> look at the bottom of the monitor panel, then
[22:46] <kion> inspiro 640m
[22:47] <reisio> kion: is there a hardware switch on the side?
[22:48] <kion> no
[22:48] <desti> http://www.pro-linux.de/umfragen/2/161/schadet-ubuntu-linux.html
[22:49] <reisio> desti: if you're going to complain to a bunch of English speakers, try doing it in English
[22:50] <k1l> desti: that is not matching the !guidelines at all
[22:50] <dotut> hello, installed a minimal version of ubuntu server 12.04 lts. it has ntpdate installed by default. the documentation states that this is run once during boot. which script does this?
[22:51] <eponus> kion: is there a key combination you press like fn+F key or something? Has it worked before and failed, or is this a new install?
[22:51] <reisio> kion: sudo lspci | grep -i net
[22:51] <kion> it does but when i do that it does not do anything
[22:51] <reisio> dotut: check dpkg -L ntpdate
[22:51] <kion> ok reisio one moment
[22:52] <symb0l> trism, any chance you know of a similar list for kernel headers?
[22:52] <symb0l> trism, found it
[22:52] <dotut> reisio: checked that..adds a hook to /etc/network/if-up.d/
[22:53] <dotut> reisio: however, where does it get the ntp server info from
[22:54] <reisio> elsewhere in /etc/, no doubt
[22:55] <kion> it says 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: broadcom corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-tx (rev02 and 0c:00.0 network controller: broadcom corpartion BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev01)
[22:55] <xcaliber178> Genii: I am now running the new kernel. But I have a bigger issue now.
[22:56] <genii> xcaliber178: A description of the issue may help :)
[22:57] <reisio> kion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[22:57] <kion> i have tried that
[22:57] <xcaliber178> Genii: (sorry for slow, I'm on my phone now) Ubuntu is now running in low graphics mode.
[22:57] <kion> sorry wrong window
[22:58] <genii> xcaliber178: You were previously running one of the proprietary drivers, like nvidia or ati ?
[22:58] <kion> i have installed all of that stuff
[22:58] <xcaliber178> Genii: I think, but I'm not totally sure.
[22:59] <genii> xcaliber178: Try going to Additional Drivers and see if it recommends anything
[23:00] <kion> so now what
[23:01] <zonne> just a quick hello I am a new ubunu user
[23:01] <xcaliber178> Genii: ahhh fglrx drivers. Ok it's dl'ing
[23:02] <reisio> zonne: 'lo
[23:03] <genii> zonne: If you have questions regarding your Ubuntu, you can ask the channel generally and see if someone answers. For more casual chit-chat about Ubuntu we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:03] <kion> Reisio what do i do now?
[23:03] <reisio> kion: try it again
[23:04] <kion> i can't that takes internet to download them the computer has no internet
[23:04] <xcaliber178> Genii: driver install failed.
[23:04] <reisio> kion: ...then how'd you try it already?
[23:04] <akurilin> Folks, has anybody experienced a "blinking mouse cursor" issue before? It seems to happen to me whenever the mouse is over something that's animated and that chunk of the screen is refreshing.
[23:05] <kion> because i had wired internet connection at one point and downloaded it but something happened and the wired internet stoped working as well so now i have no internet
[23:05] <DatWolf> Yay
[23:05] <reisio> kion: do you have your install media?
[23:05] <reisio> DatWolf: yay!
[23:05] <kion> i am not sure what is that
[23:05] <DatWolf> reisio
[23:06] <DatWolf> I'm confused.
[23:06] <genii> xcaliber178: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic linux-source dkms  ...to make sure you have all the right pieces first. Then try again with the Additional Drivers
[23:06] <DatWolf> and
[23:06] <DatWolf> are you an op reisio
[23:06] <reisio> DatWolf: nope
[23:06] <DatWolf> Where do I go to suggest you
[23:06] <reisio> DatWolf: nowhere
[23:06] <stef1a> how do you enable the TTY in 13.04? Unity stopped working for me, so I tried to install Gnome 3.8, but it doesn't work either, so I want to use the TTY, but when I press ctrl + alt + F1, I get a black screen with no prompt.
[23:06] <reisio> if you wanted to suggest someone else, though, I s'pose you could go to #ubuntu-ops
[23:07] <reisio> but I doubt it's much based on suggestion
[23:07] <DatWolf> It should be.
[23:07] <reisio> DatWolf: be that as it may :p
[23:07] <DatWolf> anyway
[23:07] <DatWolf> I'm banned from freenode
[23:07] <reisio> stef1a: try F2
[23:07] <DatWolf> :L
[23:07] <reisio> DatWolf: apparently quite an effective ban
[23:07] <stef1a> reisio: didn't work either
[23:07] <DatWolf> lel
[23:07] <reisio> stef1a: maybe your X is frozen, then
[23:07] <DatWolf> also
[23:08] <DatWolf> reisio
[23:08] <kion> reisio what do you mean by installed media
[23:08] <DatWolf> why does ubuntu recognize one of my network adapters?
[23:08] <stef1a> reisio: what can i do about that? start ubuntu in recovery mode?
[23:08] <reisio> stef1a: try CTRL+ALT+PrtScrn+k
[23:08] <reisio> kion: the image you installed Ubuntu from
[23:08] <reisio> DatWolf: why wouldn't it?
[23:08] <kion> iv re installed that like 3 times
[23:08] <DatWolf> I dont know?
[23:08] <DatWolf> *doesnt
[23:08] <kion> it still has the same result
[23:09] <stef1a> reisio: thank you :-)
[23:09] <DatWolf> I meant
[23:09] <DatWolf> doesnt
[23:09] <FloodBot1> DatWolf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <reisio> kion: nobody suggested you reinstall
[23:09] <DatWolf> fuck you fuckbot fuck you.
[23:09] <reisio> stef1a: :D
[23:09] <reisio> DatWolf: it doesn't detect your network adapter?
[23:09] <genii> DatWolf: Please keep the language family friendly
[23:09] <kion> well then no i do not have the disk
[23:09] <Stark> I have the microphone/control button from a pair of headphones connected to the microphone input on my Ubuntu machine.
[23:09] <DatWolf> Yes, it doesnt detect it
[23:10] <Stark> Is there any way I can actually use the control button?
[23:10] <reisio> kion: that limits your options, unless you have another live/OS you could use
[23:10] <kion> nope but what would i do if i had it
[23:10] <reisio> Stark: those usually rely on the input jack/port having an extra ring contact
[23:10] <reisio> Stark: so not likely
[23:10] <Stark> reisio, I know, I have that ring contact wired to my microphone input
[23:10] <reisio> Stark: perhaps there are USB adapters
[23:10] <DatWolf> so....
[23:10] <DatWolf> any ideas?
[23:10] <reisio> Stark: um, sure, you could make it work
[23:11] <reisio> DatWolf: how have you determined it doesn't detect it?
[23:11] <DatWolf> Um
[23:11] <DatWolf> it doesnt show any wired connect?
[23:11] <Stark> I have a splitter that runs the microphone ring into the microphone jack
[23:11] <Stark> I can use the microphone
[23:11] <dsyncd> I was wondering if anyone would like to take a crack at this.  I was trying to install ubuntu-desktop and I ran out of space on the flash drive.  So I have a dpkg error stating that.  Do I regain the space if the installation fails and if not, how do I go about doing so?
[23:11] <xcaliber178> Genii: failed :/
[23:11] <DatWolf> *connection, but when I connect the wire to the other it does
[23:11] <reisio> DatWolf: what's the output of sudo lspci | grep -i net
[23:11] <Stark> And pressing the button causes a popping sound to come from the microphone
[23:11] <DatWolf> and it doesnt show up in the device manager
[23:11] <genii> xcaliber178: The command i gave failed, or doing Additional Drivers failed?
[23:11] <DatWolf> um
[23:12] <Stark> I'm pretty sure the button just short-circuits the mic
[23:12] <Stark> There should be some piece of software that can take that input and execute a command
[23:12] <reisio> Stark: I'm pretty sure assembling hardware devices is somewhat outside the scope of this channel :p
[23:12] <xcaliber178> Genii: additional drivers failed.
[23:12] <Stark> To pause media and stuff
[23:12] <phong_> hi guys
[23:12] <DatWolf> 04:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[23:12] <reisio> phong_: ohio
[23:12] <DatWolf> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection
[23:12] <DatWolf> 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin > data
[23:12] <Stark> reisio, I just need a piece of software that will take this input from the microphone and produce commands
[23:13] <reisio> wilee-nilee: smooth
[23:13] <reisio> Stark: look around /dev/
[23:13] <genii> xcaliber178: OK. So close that, and back to commandline with: sudo apt-get install fglrx    ...and if any errors please to pastebin again
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> reisio, It good. ;)
[23:13] <reisio> DatWolf: can you pastebin the output of sudo lspci -n ?
[23:13] <DatWolf> fk
[23:13] <DatWolf> shure
[23:14] <DatWolf> http://pastebin.com/ZbPKTAzu
[23:15] <xcaliber178> Genii: "fglrx is already the newest version."
[23:15] <DatWolf> fk you all
[23:15] <DatWolf> fk ubuntu
[23:15] <DatWolf> why the fk
[23:15] <DatWolf> fk
[23:15] <reisio> DatWolf: lsmod | grep -i e1000e
[23:15] <genii> DatWolf: Please behave. We don't allow short forms of swearing either.
[23:16] <DatWolf> fk = football kick
[23:16] <DatWolf> problem?
[23:16] <xcaliber178> Woooooow
[23:16] <DatWolf> e1000e                174556  0
[23:16] <reisio> DatWolf: you using the server edition?
[23:17] <DatWolf> sudo apt-cache search hydra
[23:17] <genii> xcaliber178: Does: grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf    ...produce a result?
[23:17] <k1l> !language > DatWolf
[23:17] <DatWolf> Fk
[23:18] <xcaliber178> Genii: no such file or directory.
[23:19] <genii> !xorgconf | xcaliber178  ...please follow the fglrx instructions from the bot
[23:20] <eponus> that was ridiculous, i'll find a different channel. censorship is pathetic
[23:20] <kion> is there any other chat i could go to to see if i could get this problem fixed
[23:21] <sifi> Anyone know how to easily build a precise package for raring?
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> sifi, Not a channel topic, and are you sure you need to have you looked for a PPA?
[23:23] <sifi> wilee-nilee: Sorry, yes I found a PPA, but it is for precise only.
[23:24] <histo> kion: lspci | grep Network
[23:24] <kion> i have tried that
[23:24] <kion> it says
[23:24] <histo> kion: And the output of my command is?
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> sifi, Have you looked to see if there is a build beyond that at all?
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> sifi, I have used other releases in my apt-list but you have to be aware of the ramifications, not really a load and forget thang.
[23:25] <kion> command not found
[23:26] <histo> kion: well then you didn't try that command.... it's lspci | grep Network
[23:26] <sifi> wilee-nilee: Yeah, no build beyond precise.  I found the proper channel topic
[23:26] <thekkid> Has anyone ever had a problem getting both wired and wireless to work on a laptop?
[23:26] <kion> network controller: broadcom corpartion BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev01)
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> sifi, You might be able to just get a deb of it and nstall.
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> install*
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> !details > thekkid
[23:27] <sevenforall> Greetings
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> thekkid, The channel works with you stating your problem.
[23:28] <histo> kion: Are you able to use wired internet again just to get wifi working?
[23:28] <kion> no
[23:28] <thekkid> I installed ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 1520 and neither ethernet or wifi works
[23:28] <sifi> wilee-nilee: while I could end doing that, there are a bunch of dependencies required for the package.  I really wanna upgrade the PPA to include raring.
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> thekkid, Can you run this command and post the info  lspci | grep Broadcom
[23:29] <sevenforall> Whenever I try to install an application, I get this: http://pastie.org/8067987
[23:29] <sevenforall> The installation of some BURG theme probably went wrong
[23:29] <sevenforall> Any ideas on how to fix it?
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> sifi, Yeah, dependencies are the problem at times.
[23:29] <histo> kion: okay well you need to install the firmware for your wireless card following the broadcom page from ubottu.
[23:29] <thekkid> wilee-nilee give me a second to reboot
[23:29] <kion> i did
[23:30] <histo> kion: you can do this with another machine
[23:30] <kion> iv installed all of that
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> thekkid, Cool, we just need to see the cards
[23:30] <histo> kion: sudo iwlist scan        Does that output any networks?
[23:30] <kion> i installed it when the wired worked on the computer it no longer does
[23:30] <thekkid> wilee-nilee: I know its a bcm 4401-B0 ethernet card
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | thekkid
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> thekkid, That link should be helpful, I'm not up on broadcom, never had one.
[23:31] <kion> lo  Interface Doesn't support scanning
[23:32] <DedDeet> anyone know about PPC version of ubuntu?
[23:32] <histo> kion: well you need the bcmwl-kernel-source   package for your card to work
[23:32] <histo> !offline | kion
[23:32] <xcaliber178> Genii: I did the stuff for ati/and and it didn't help
[23:32] <kion> i have it installed
[23:34] <kion> how do install things from another computer onto the computer that has no internet i will try to reinstall them
[23:34] <thekkid> wilee-nilee: I think that's only useful for getting wireless working. But I'm not sure
[23:35] <DedDeet> Ok, running Ubuntu 5.10 on a MacBook G3. trying to install a wireless card. I do not have a working ethernet connection, hardware is broken. Trying to use ny NetGeat WNA1100 USB stick
[23:35] <DedDeet> lsusb recognizes a Netgear product, not sure where to go from here
[23:36] <reisio> DedDeet: what's lsusb say?
[23:36] <MonkeyDust> DedDeet  5.10 is no longer supported or maintained, the sources no longer exist
[23:36] <genii> xcaliber178: does: lsmod | grep fglrx      ...show anything?
[23:37] <DedDeet> reisio: lsusb says Device 002: ID 0846:9030 Netgear, Inc.
[23:37] <DedDeet> then two entries for device 001 with no ids
[23:37] <Ben64> DedDeet: you need to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu
[23:37] <xcaliber178> Genii: it does not
[23:37] <DedDeet> MonkeyDust: its the newest PPC build that works on it
[23:37] <DedDeet> Ben64: cant be done
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> thekkid, It looks that way in general, just be sure to identify the card is all.
[23:38] <MonkeyDust> DedDeet  are you familiar with the concept of !eol ?
[23:38] <reisio> DedDeet: covered by ath9k_htc in modern kernels
[23:38] <DedDeet> MonkeyDust: no i am not
[23:38] <Ben64> DedDeet: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/ubuntu-12.04-alternate-powerpc.iso
[23:38] <genii> xcaliber178: OK. Unfortunately i have to leave work soon and will be unable to continue assisting. But hopefully someone will take up your issue. If not, I will return Monday.
[23:39] <DedDeet> Ben64:  what's the system requirements for that disk?
[23:39] <MonkeyDust> !eol
[23:39] <xcaliber178> Alright. I'll check back Monday.
[23:39] <Ben64> DedDeet: what are the specs?
[23:39] <DedDeet> MacBook g3. old as sh_t
[23:39] <reisio> DedDeet: so you could try sudo modprobe ath9k_htc
[23:40] <notluke> Hey all.  I've got a problem I've never seen before - using vlans on an         ethernet interface.  Traffic comes in fine, but egress traffic never hits the   wire.  tcpdump on eth1 shows ingress traffic, and tcpdump on eth1.3269 shows    both ingress and egress traffic.  http://pastebin.ca/2404555
[23:40] <DedDeet> reisio: can anth9k_htc be added via usb?
[23:40] <notluke> (Awesome pasted whitespace.  Sweet.)
[23:40] <reisio> DedDeet: sure
[23:40] <DedDeet> looking it up now
[23:41] <reisio> DedDeet: ath9k_htc, not anth :)
[23:41] <Ben64> DedDeet: then upgrade your computer :|
[23:41] <DedDeet> reisio:  google got me the right place ;)
[23:41] <reisio> :D
[23:41] <thekkid> wilee-nilee: It doesn't list the nic under any of those. Those are all just wireless cards :/
[23:41] <DedDeet> Ben64: if you have nothing useful, go away
[23:42] <Ben64> DedDeet: no. your release is not supported here. we can't help you
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> DedDeet, that release is basically not supported, don't get used to being helped here, just a heads up
[23:42] <DedDeet> funny, i got someone helping me right now
[23:42] <reisio> wilee-nilee: I think that's been said a few times already :p
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> DedDeet, And people putting you ignore as well.
[23:43] <Ben64> reisio: because it isn't supported
[23:43] <reisio> right, it's unsupported, and people said that
[23:43] <DedDeet> i should stick with the guys in #kubuntu, less ass hats over there
[23:43] <reisio> already :)
[23:43] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i install drivers that are downloaded as a "*.run" file?
[23:43] <Ben64> it stopped being supported in this channel in 2007
[23:43] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: ./path/to/file.run
[23:43] <Ben64> !attitude | DedDeet
[23:43] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: potentially chmod +x file first
[23:44] <reisio> Ben64: what did?
[23:44] <Ben64> reisio: 5.10
[23:44] <reisio> 5.10?
[23:44] <Ben64> ubuntu 5.10...
[23:44] <reisio> 5.10, that's old
[23:44] <DedDeet> Ben64: if there are no answers fine, but you guys are just being dicks about it
[23:44] <Ben64> DedDeet: then leave
[23:44] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: I'm kinda new to this, I don't wanna screw anything up: what does chmod do?
[23:45] <Ben64> reisio: exactly what we're trying to convey
[23:45] <DedDeet> someone is already giving me information. you dont need to keep harping on it
[23:45] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: man chmod; in this case, if the .run happens to not be set to be executed already, chmod +x would make it set that way
[23:45] <Ben64> we don't need to fill this channel with support for an ancient release
[23:45] <DedDeet> if you got nothing useful, stop talking, i heard you the first 12 times
[23:45] <reisio> Ben64: but do you think he didn't understand you the first few times? :p
[23:46] <Ben64> he still continues asking for support, so maybe not
[23:46] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: thanks! :-)
[23:46] <DedDeet> probably cause he's getting it
[23:46] <reisio> I don't see support, just whining :p
[23:46]  * wilee-nilee loves a good set of projections
[23:47] <reisio> I like tables
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> the world from my own reality yipee
[23:48] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: the chmod returned nothing, is that normal?
[23:49] <Ben64> linux_is_my_hero: yep, it only returns something if there is an error
[23:49] <jrib> linux_is_my_hero: on linux, things usually work the way they are supposed.  They only tell us when something went wrong :D
[23:49] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: yes
[23:50] <linux_is_my_hero> Ben64 & reisio: I'm having trouble now getting the run script to run, do I have to type in the whole file path even though I'm already in that folder where the file is?
[23:50] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: ./file.run
[23:50] <reisio> depending on what it is, it might expect to be run as root (be careful)
[23:50] <Ben64> linux_is_my_hero: what are you running by the way?
[23:50] <linux_is_my_hero> Ben64: HP's Linux Imaging and Printing :-D
[23:51] <reisio> hplip should be available in ordinary Ubuntu repos
[23:51] <Ben64> yeah, you shouldn't need to run it
[23:51] <reisio> to .run it :)
[23:51] <reisio> heh
[23:51] <linux_is_my_hero> Ben64: lol...
[23:51] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: I should've looked :-(
[23:51] <reisio> :D
[23:51] <reisio> it's best, when desiring software
[23:52] <reisio> to first assume it's available in the default repos
[23:52] <reisio> and if it isn't, assume it's in a non-default repo
[23:52] <reisio> and if it isn't, assume it's available as a .deb
[23:52] <Ben64> there is tons of stuff in the repositories
[23:52] <reisio> and if it isn't, assume it's available as something other than a .deb that you can make into a .deb
[23:52] <reisio> and if it isn't, then it's fun time :p
[23:53] <reisio> sensible package websites will mention distro package managers before providing a binary download link
[23:53] <Ben64> a lot of people install nvidia from the .run and end up with problems
[23:53] <reisio> but HP is a corporate entity, and thus not particularly sensible :) (although moreso than many others :p)
[23:53] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: yeah, I'm gunna go find it in the repo because with the run script, it wants to log in and out and have me restart the computer and all kinds of other things that the package manager would do on its own :-D
[23:53] <linux_is_my_hero> Ben64: yeah :-)
[23:53] <reisio> Ben64: what percentage end up with problems? :)
[23:54] <reisio> also it'd be harder to update it or remove it without using the package manager
[23:54] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: true :-)
[23:55] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: additionally, you might want to install hplip-gui :D
[23:55] <Ben64> reisio: i'd say about 100%
[23:55] <Ben64> as soon as the first kernel update hits
[23:55] <reisio> Ben64: seems unlikely :p
[23:55] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: cool :-)
[23:56] <Ben64> they don't have the headers for the new kernel, so the module never gets built, and they're stuck
[23:57] <linux_is_my_hero> Ben64: thanks for the help :-) it worked
[23:57] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: thanks for the help :-) it worked