[00:01] <cosmicfires> I found the backups I always save /etc/
[00:06] <cosmicfires> I missed /etc/bind/ \named.conf.local too
[00:06] <cosmicfires> oops typo
[00:08] <mehmet__> a
[00:08] <mehmet__> sorry
[00:09] <JonelethIrenicus> is it possible to get middle click scrolling in web browsers like in Windows?
[00:11] <kroSoft> hi all
[00:11] <kroSoft> how to create vhost for IRC psybnc in my vps
[00:11] <miharu> Hi.
[00:12] <kroSoft> thank you.
[00:12] <miharu> You're welcome
[00:12] <kroSoft> i can't find any help for this
[00:12] <kroSoft> miharu thank you very much mister :))
[00:13] <tase> Greetings. Whats a simple console FTP client. Simply 'ftp' is too boring for me. I'dd like to be able to see the progress go. I.e: Transfering thisonebigassfile 56% |||||----- (10298 kB/s)
[00:14] <kroSoft> Please help
[00:15] <teward> kroSoft: what do you mean by "create vHost"
[00:15] <teward> kroSoft: it's unclear what you are trying to achieve
[00:16] <kroSoft> Vhosts to connect with it in psybnc : / bvhot .....
[00:16] <kroSoft> look like this :
[00:17] <kroSoft> <IP_ADDRESS> 	 91-191-147-162.IRCz.fr
[00:17] <kroSoft> <IP_ADDRESS> 	 91-191-147-163.eXolia.net
[00:17] <kroSoft> <IP_ADDRESS> 	 91-191-147-164.Dofia.net
[00:17] <kroSoft> <IP_ADDRESS> 	 91-191-147-165.eXolia.info
[00:17] <teward> kroSoft: don't mass paste.
[00:17] <kroSoft> some vhost to use it in psybnc
[00:17] <teward> kroSoft: contact your VPS provider to see if they have rDNS for the IPs.  if they do, ask them how to configure it for your VPS.  If they don't, then you can't.
[00:17] <teward> kroSoft: what you call a vHost is actually called "Reverse DNS"
[00:17] <kroSoft> sorry for the mass paste :(
[00:19] <kroSoft> the provider vps give me one reverser dns
[00:19] <kroSoft> my ip is : IPv4
[00:19] <kroSoft> <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:19] <dax> how many IPs you get and whether you can do rDNS on them is between you and your IP provider (i.e. your VPS host in this case)
[00:20] <kroSoft> my reverse dns is : Reverse DNS
[00:20] <kroSoft> 1.ip-92-222-88.eu
[00:22] <kroSoft> dax
[00:22] <kroSoft> I am a beginner, I did not understand your question ..
[00:22] <dax> that wasn't a question, it was me saying you need to go talk to your VPS host, not us
[00:23] <kroSoft> ok ill see with the vps provider
[00:24] <cimbakahn> Hello Everyone!
[00:24] <kroSoft> thanks for your help " dax and teward" :)))
[00:24] <sergioad> Helo cimbakahn
[00:25] <cimbakahn> Is it true that you have to have a compositing window manager to run a dock?
[00:25] <glitchd> k1l_, hey bud
[00:26] <glitchd> k1l_, by chance do u have any insight as to why my windows 10 partition wont mount at boot anymore?
[00:27] <beanz> So what do you guys think of 16.10?
[00:27] <EriC^^> glitchd: maybe it's in a hibernated state
[00:27] <EriC^^> !+1 | beanz
[00:27] <cimbakahn> I heard that you could just install your dock, then make sure metacity is installed, and then turn metacity on, and that should do it.  Is this correct?
[00:27] <EriC^^> !ubuntu+1 | beanz
[00:27] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that beanz
[00:27] <glitchd> EriC^^, nah i already ran into and solved that problem
[00:27] <EriC^^> glitchd: try mounting it from the terminal and see any errors you get
[00:27] <glitchd> EriC^^, you have to restart from windows 10 and select linux at grub and it should work
[00:28] <glitchd> EriC^^, no it mounts fine once im in linux
[00:28] <glitchd> EriC^^, but refuses to automount at login
[00:28] <EriC^^> glitchd: what command are you using?
[00:29] <EriC^^> are you mounting from the filemanager?
[00:29] <glitchd> EriC^^, im on my desktop, xubuntu
[00:29] <glitchd> EriC^^, yes
[00:29] <EriC^^> try gvfs-mount -d /dev/sdxY from the terminal
[00:29] <glitchd> ubuntu 16.04 with xubuntu manager
[00:30] <jinglescafe> hello, i installed new version of firefox and its nolonger running
[00:31] <glitchd> EriC^^, lol this is super strange...now its all of a sudden just not showing up..
[00:31] <EriC^^> glitchd: try sudo parted -l
[00:31] <glitchd> EriC^^, it shows in blkid, but not in my file manager\
[00:31] <glitchd> EriC^^, i think im gonna reboot again..
[00:31] <glitchd> EriC^^, brb
[00:33] <jinglescafe> i updated firefox, now it will not run.  it keeps asking for password
[00:35] <keakaha> i need help to enter my bios menu
[00:35] <keakaha> i installed ubuntu, now my bios is gone
[00:37] <keakaha> tem jeito?
[00:38] <vanskarner> hello?
[00:38] <vanskarner> Hola a todos estoy probando ubuntu mate
[00:38] <EriC^^> !pt | vanskarner
[00:38] <Tex_Nick> keakaha: software has nothing to do with the motherboard BIOS
[00:39] <rahtgaz> EriC^^: that was spanish. I should know. I speak portuguese :)
[00:39] <EriC^^> rahtgaz: aha
[00:39] <keakaha> I guess it doesnt. but my notebook was fine. is fine actualyy.. it just wont go to bios menu, it goes directly to grub
[00:39] <Tex_Nick> keakaha: as far as acessing the bios from initial boot that is
[00:40] <glitchd> EriC^^, ok so im back and still confused lol
[00:40] <EriC^^> glitchd: still hasn't showed up?
[00:40] <glitchd> EriC^^, so i went back into 10, everything was fine. i did a full shutdown of the system then booted back into linux.
[00:41] <EriC^^> glitchd: doesn't that utilize the hibernation?
[00:41] <glitchd> EriC^^, its here but its till giving errors when trying to boot it
[00:41] <glitchd> EriC^^, i read up on it a lil earlier, the way that windows 10 handles power stuff is like this.
[00:41] <ethanhs> Soo. Trying to install Ubuntu (I've done it before). My internal pcie ssd is not found, and the only drive that shows is the usb I'm installing from.
[00:42] <EriC^^> glitchd: try restarting instead of shutting down
[00:42] <glitchd> EriC^^, when u shutdown it puts the hard drive into a hibernation type state
[00:42] <EriC^^> yeah
[00:42] <glitchd> EriC^^, when u reboot it actually cuts power to the hd
[00:42] <glitchd> EriC^^, but here is where im confused
[00:42] <Tex_Nick> keakaha: it might be set to a fast boot mode ... which would not allow much time to press the proper key to enter bios ... you might need to reset the bios settings on the motherboard ... but on a laptop, well good luck
[00:42] <Drtro> What are some lightweight web browsers that have flash player and adblock?  And the disk isn't showing when I fdisk -l. Any help?
[00:43] <glitchd> EriC^^, when i restarted and booted into linux the win partition wouldnt show up
[00:43] <EriC^^> glitchd: must have been a one time error
[00:43] <EriC^^> with the file manager
[00:43] <Bashing-om> glitchd: See: https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/kb/920730 . Make sure hibernation is disabled ??
[00:45] <glitchd> EriC^^, i think my next attempt is going to be boot back into windows and do a restart then select linux in grub and see if it shows up this time, maybe it was a one time error..
[00:46] <glitchd> EriC^^, on the other hand, i may just leave it. i never boot into windows as it is anyways..
[00:46] <glitchd> EriC^^, even to manage my ipod and such i use a windows 7 vm lol
[00:46] <glitchd> i only upgraded it to check it out, and to get it before they start charging for it
[00:47] <glitchd> EriC^^, ^^
[00:47] <EriC^^> :D
[00:47] <glitchd> EriC^^, yea i dont even want to reboot again, im just gonna say fuck it and leave it like it is.
[00:48] <erkburgles> hi, i am having trouble getting pia vpn to work with network manager i would really appreciate some help
[00:48] <keakaha> thanks tex nick. i did a hard reset on desktop. I wast willing to do it on a laptop. thx anyway
[00:48] <glitchd> EriC^^, Bashing-om, thx for the intended help, have a good one gents
[00:49] <EriC^^> glitchd: no problem, you too
[00:50] <glitchd> EriC^^, on second thought, this is just now happening since i upgraded to 16.04
[00:50] <glitchd> EriC^^, this wasnt happening in 15.
[00:50] <glitchd> 10
[00:50] <glitchd> 15.10*
[00:50] <EriC^^> try restarting windows, worth a shot
[00:51] <glitchd> EriC^^, already tried that 3 times, 2 restarts and shutdown
[00:51] <glitchd> EriC^^, restarts make it not show up, shutdowns make it unaccessible
[00:51] <EriC^^> glitchd: ok try restarting one last time
[00:52] <EriC^^> then if it doesn't show up try gvfs-mount -d /dev/sdxY
[00:52] <glitchd> EriC^^, im also thinking that maybe i need to reinstall ntfs-3g? but i will boot back into it and restart it and get back in here and let u all know whats what.
[00:53] <glitchd> EriC^^, brb
[00:56] <glitchd> EriC^^, we have success.
[00:56] <EriC^^> glitchd: great :)
[00:56] <glitchd> EriC^^, it must of been a one time error of sorts
[00:57] <glitchd> EriC^^, glad it wasnt anything more than a few reboots to get it right
[00:57] <Trinity> if I use ufw does it's rules persist after reboot?
[00:57] <Trinity> its*
[00:58] <EriC^^> !ufw | Trinity see here maybe
[01:00] <EriC^^> glitchd: yeah
[01:01] <glitchd> Trinity, i just found this info on that subject,
[01:01] <glitchd> Trinity, when you have the set of rules you want you can save the rules using iptables-save and then run iptables-restore pointing it to the save file as a startup script
[01:02] <glitchd> Trinity, but no, it doesnt save rules between reboot by default
[01:10] <Trioxin> (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions) wish me luck
[01:11] <bvzx> good moring
[01:11] <cosmicfires> named works now there were a couple more files missing from the working config I copied
[01:13] <cimbakahn> How do i completely get rid of systemd, and replace it with what there was before?
[01:15] <Bashing-om> cimbakahn: In grub's boot menu -> advabed options .. there is the option to boot upstart .
[01:16] <Bashing-om> sdvanced*
[01:18] <cimbakahn> Bashing-om, I think you mean advanced.  Thank you!
[01:18] <Bashing-om> cimbakahn: ;) lol .
[01:39] <Guest71476> Hello, I'm having trouble getting my fan to spin on my Macbook Pro.
[01:42] <__CoolGuy> hi
[01:43] <__CoolGuy> I have some problem with the ati drivers
[01:43] <__CoolGuy> NOTE: If your system has logged the missing packages required for installation, install them in the order as per the log file to resolve package-dependency issues.
[01:43] <__CoolGuy> fglrx installation requires that the system has kernel headers.  /lib/modules/4.4.0-31-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
[01:43] <__CoolGuy> Install kernel headers using the command apt-get install linux-headers-4.4.0-31-generic.
[01:43] <__CoolGuy> I installed but this continue
[01:43] <__CoolGuy> I installed the linux headers
[01:47] <Bashing-om> __CoolGuy: 16.04 .. has no proprietary driver support .
[01:48] <__CoolGuy> Bashing-om: Ok
[01:48] <OerHeks> You will have AMDgpu or radeon driver enabled standard .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx
[01:49] <Bashing-om> __CoolGuy: See the relaese notes. Amd is throwing all their efforts to open source .
[01:51] <BecauseSahib>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER BecauseSahib agxhtsczrlbq
[01:51] <BecauseSahib> wow
[01:52] <BecauseSahib> ubuntu 16.04 isn't showing the plymouth splash screen
[01:57] <moestevens> oh jesus haha
[01:58] <moestevens> Looking at that password leads me to believe that they're using a password manager, so at least it's not that bad
[01:58] <coolbreeze227> becauseSahib thanks for the password buddy
[01:58] <coolbreeze227> kek
[01:59] <toxik> I sure hope he doesn't reuse passwords >.>
[01:59] <coolbreeze227> I hope you changing tha real quit
[01:59] <coolbreeze227> quick
[01:59] <coolbreeze227> or your password is about to be someone else's lol
[01:59] <coolbreeze227> or nick
[01:59] <coolbreeze227> sorry
[02:02]  * QuinnStorm still remembers dumping her nickserv pass to #furry on furnet....that was a rough day
[02:02]  * QuinnStorm was still using the same pass too many places at the time
[02:03] <gbaker> Don't make we whip out my fursuit...
[02:03] <QuinnStorm> ^^
[02:03]  * QuinnStorm is more of a living liquid latex critter than an actual fuzzy
[02:04] <moestevens> Use SASL, password managers with unique passwords, leave authentication to your client/bouncer
[02:04] <moestevens> And if you really need to manually verify, do it in the server window
[02:06] <QuinnStorm> at this point I have a client macro that sends fairly safely
[02:06] <QuinnStorm> its not great but it works
[02:06] <QuinnStorm> I rearely reauth anyway, my client lives on a vps inside tmux
[02:07] <moestevens> I've heard some hubbub about authenticating with certs, but I haven't tried it out yet
[02:07] <canaima_> holaa
[02:07] <gbaker> Hello
[02:08] <QuinnStorm> moestevens: I used to do that on my personal server
[02:09] <toxik> Anyone know if irssi supports SASL?
[02:10] <ahrc333ff> toxik: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=irssi+sasl
[02:10] <moestevens> toxik: There's a freenode article about irssi SASL here https://freenode.net/kb/answer/irssi
[02:10] <moestevens> I'm unfamiliar with irssi, so I can't vouch for the validity of it.
[02:11] <Bashing-om> toxik: 16.04 install: http://askubuntu.com/questions/763054/how-to-use-ssl-and-sasl-with-irssi-under-xenial-xerus .
[02:12] <gbaker> I can't wait until I can use my desktop without having to use M$ for specific apps... :(  But in the meantime my laptop is my Plex server.
[02:12] <toxik> Thanks all
[02:18] <david__> Hi all, for the life of me I cannot figure out why my ubuntu clock will not sync correclty with my BIOS clock.
[02:19] <david__> I'm running 16.04 and when I set the clock in the BIOS, it makes my ubuntu clock 4 hours off, when I set the clock in Ubuntu, it makes the BIOS 4 hours off.
[02:20] <Bashing-om> david__: Dual booting windows ? where Windows controls the clock ?
[02:20] <david__> I need to fix this because I'm developing an app that gets the time from the BIOS, but then I can't correct my clock on my desktop.
[02:21] <david__> Nope, I don't have any windows on my computers
[02:22] <wang> hello
[02:22] <wang> you ren me?
[02:22] <david__> Wang me?
[02:23] <wang> zai na li ke yi xia zai zhong wen shu ru fa?
[02:24] <wang> help me
[02:25] <Bashing-om> david__: To check your settings: ' timedatectl ' . To change RTC in local TZ: ' timedatectl set-local-rtc 1 ' . More info here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/timedatectl.1.html ....
[02:26] <david__> Bashing-om: I tried that with no dice.
[02:26] <moestevens> !ubuntu-ko | wang
[02:26] <david__> I currently have rtc set to 1
[02:26] <Bashing-om> david__: Sorry, only thought I had .
[02:26] <moestevens> Whoops, ah well wang there's #ubuntu-ko for Korean Ubuntu users
[02:27] <moestevens> Maybe they'll be able to help you out :)
[02:27] <david__> Bashing-om: thanks, it's all good
[02:27] <wang> where I can download input method in softcenter?
[02:28] <Bashing-om> david__: Better though, when we find out what controls the clock on systemd .
[02:28] <moestevens> wang: From what I can see, there's a thread for the Hangul keyboard for 14.04 http://askubuntu.com/a/451008
[02:29] <moestevens> ...come on
[02:29] <david__> Bashing-om: I agree
[02:29] <ashutosh> hi
[02:29] <peterpan007> !ops
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> peterpan007: Uh, why'd you call that right after joining?
[02:30] <peterpan007> i wanted to say hey
[02:30] <peterpan007> whats up?
[02:30] <moestevens> ...to all the ops?
[02:30] <linuxc64> Hello
[02:30] <peterpan007> yes
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> That's not how any of this works...
[02:30] <elky> peterpan007: what's the emergency?
[02:30] <peterpan007> i wanted to say hello
[02:32] <linuxc64> I'm doing some kernel debugging and would be really thankful, if someone could paste the first 30-50 lines of his 16.04 4.4-x System.map on pastebin.com, since I want to check something
[02:32] <linuxc64> Or if someone could provide a link to a System.map of that kernel
[02:34] <ahrc333ff> linuxc64: http://termbin.com/mw9z
[02:34] <gshmu> hello, I update my server to 16.04.1, http://img.vim-cn.com/13/6a81da20d0186aa04c2728c089628d7219b3fc.png
[02:34] <gshmu> bug
[02:34] <gshmu> but the ssh
[02:34] <gshmu> can't login in
[02:34] <linuxc64> Thanks a lot!
[02:34] <sypher> linuxc64: http://termbin.com/od1d
[02:35] <linuxc64> Thanks - Obviously I was wrong about something
[02:35] <ahrc333ff> linuxc64: np. gluck with whatever you're doing. it's over my head ^_^
[02:35] <ahrc333ff> gshmu: hello, can you describe the problem a bit more. the image you provided is somethin gi've not seen before in terms of errors
[02:36] <OerHeks> david, sudo timedatectl set-local-rtc true ?
[02:37] <gshmu> ahrc333ff: sshd_config http://paste.ubuntu.com/21846136/    and, the pub key is ok
[02:37] <ahrc333ff> gshmu: it looks like there were issues with the package install for openssh-server, so Im just curious what you've done so far to address this.
[02:37] <gshmu> and I reinstall openssh-server
[02:38] <ahrc333ff> gshmu: in the picture it shows there were errors. did you re-install before or after that screencap?
[02:39] <gshmu> I can login with passwd with toor
[02:39] <gshmu> but pub key permission denied
[02:39] <ahrc333ff> is this kali?
[02:41] <JustAnotherIdiot> does upgrading to a new version of ubuntu also upgrade the kernal?
[02:41] <sypher> JustAnotherIdiot: kernel* and yes.
[02:41] <JustAnotherIdiot> ok
[02:42] <david__> Ok I fixed the problem, I just changes my timezone in ubuntu out in the middle of atlantic instead of Ohio!
[02:43] <ahrc333ff> 1
[02:43]  * sypher is reminded to fix the timezone on his server, thank you david__ ...
[02:44] <david__> no problem sypher
[02:48] <david__> What is the best terminal irc program.. I'm using Irssi, but I'm not really liking it, what alternatives are there?
[02:48] <idiota> How do I enable amdgpu?
[02:48] <sypher> david__: I am currently using weechat.
[02:48] <QuinnStorm> I use irssi, I haven't switched b'/c muscle memory
[02:48] <OerHeks> idiota, You will have AMDgpu or radeon driver enabled standard .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx
[02:48] <peterpan007> i know you said terminal but why not hexchat?
[02:48] <sypher> david__: I actually switched from irssi.
[02:49] <QuinnStorm> either way do yourself a favor and use either tmux or screen too
[02:49] <OerHeks> if not AMDgpu, then your card is not suitable
[02:49] <sypher> Most Ubuntu installations include byobu, a nice tmux wrapper.
[02:49] <QuinnStorm> I wrote my own tmux bindings, haven't tried byobu
[02:49] <gshmu> ahrc333ff: I find it because`AuthorizedKeysFile	%h/.ssh/gshmu.pro`, but how to fix it?
[02:49] <idiota> OerHeks, Is there no way to enable it manually?
[02:49] <QuinnStorm> mostly keygroups that give me prefix-free controls at terminal and console
[02:50] <OerHeks> idiota, not that i know
[02:50]  * QuinnStorm gets a little OCD about her enviroments sometimes
[02:50]  * QuinnStorm once customized the heck out of ion3 for her setup
[02:50] <david__> I'll check them all out. is irssi customizable? My biggest peev is how hard it is to read.
[02:50] <QuinnStorm> david__: it is themeable and customizable
[02:50] <QuinnStorm> there is a huge script libraary
[02:50] <QuinnStorm> get scriptassist installed and you can search it directly
[02:52] <david__> QuinnStorm: will do.
[02:52]  * gbaker thinks... very rarely.
[02:53] <OerHeks> AMD Radeon R9 285, R9 380/380X and R9 Fury/FuryX graphics cards are now supported
[02:54] <gbaker> I'm just waiting for the day Nvidia supports SLI on mobile processors.
[02:54] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/756258/which-graphics-cards-are-supported-by-the-new-amdgpu-driver-in-ubuntu-16-04
[03:07] <RobWilco> Oerheks: is it safe to assume that the Rx 480 is not supported by amdgpu?
[03:08] <RobWilco> and on that note, does nouveau work with the new Pascal GPUs?
[03:17] <OerHeks> RobWilco, it will be, if not already
[03:19] <elky> RobWilco: basically, upstream yes, ymmv and don't expect support from here :)
[03:20] <elky> RobWilco: at least that's my understanding of the rx480 anyway, no idea about nvidia
[03:23] <g_>  freenode secure
[03:25] <tusharm> my wifi option is disabled.... only networking available
[03:25] <tusharm> any solutions?
[03:30] <YankDownUnder> tusharm: Have you checked if your system requires third party drivers?
[03:47] <gbaker> It's only quitting and joining in here. I guess I'll have to listen to the voices in my head for a while. :)
[03:48] <QuinnStorm> lol
[03:48]  * QuinnStorm wishes she could get backed with gbaker but is living with her parents (at 33, I know, shameful)_
[03:49] <gbaker> QuinnStorm: I'm also living at home at 39, but I'm taking care of grandma turning 94 in September.
[03:49] <QuinnStorm> well *that* is a good cause
[03:50] <QuinnStorm> I'm just between jobs
[03:50] <gbaker> I know how that goes.
[03:50] <ahrc333ff> I wish I could live with my parents. I hate bills :(
[03:50] <QuinnStorm> yeah, I mean, its *sensible* its just not terribly *sexy*
[03:50] <QuinnStorm> of course I may be old enough that potential dates will see sensible as sexy
[03:50] <QuinnStorm> lol
[03:51] <ahrc333ff> Luckily, we're actively re-defining sexy. We've got BBW, Dad-bod, and next it will be "living with mom" ^_^
[03:51] <QuinnStorm> hehe
[03:51]  * QuinnStorm is a transwoman and a lesbian so it can be tricky to find a date
[03:51] <ahrc333ff> QuinnStorm: sounds like a fun combination!
[03:51] <QuinnStorm> add in anime nerd and linux geek and such and it gets even worse
[03:51] <gbaker> All I have to say is never take life seriously. I was told to "dress up" for my nieces wedding.  Then went up to the bar. When the bartender asked what I wanted I told him "A bowl of water".
[03:53]  * QuinnStorm is also polyamorous and totally weird and also way cool with just hanging out and chatting, needs to find more friends, her last circle broke up rather nuclearly
[03:54] <QuinnStorm> LOL
[03:54] <QuinnStorm> yerf!
[03:55] <gbaker> Looking at my niece would believe she is 22
[03:56] <QuinnStorm> the calendar says I'm 33 but my brain thinks more like 15
[03:56] <gbaker> My mom says I still act 12 so I'm younger. Yay
[03:56] <Ben64> please leave this channel for support only, use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics
[03:57] <gbaker> Sorry Ben64
[03:57] <QuinnStorm> since you insist
[03:57]  * QuinnStorm heads to u-o
[03:57] <QuinnStorm> :)
[03:58] <peterpan007> !ops
[04:06] <maestrojed> I always start and restart services with "service apache2 restart". I am trying to configure monit. Monit is monitoring software that can restart services if they fail. All the tuts I find say to config start program = "/etc/init.d/apache2 start". Whats the diff? Should I replace that with the service command?
[04:08] <Ben64> maestrojed: yep
[04:09] <maestrojed> Ben64 just different startup command for different linux distros? I'm curious
[04:10] <monsterdemon> does anyone know what this command does?   rm -rf /
[04:10] <monsterdemon> and how is it different than rm /
[04:10]  * sypher eyerolls
[04:10] <OerHeks> man rm
[04:10] <EriC^^> maestrojed: service is an upstart thing, /etc/init.d are the old sysvinit files but upstart has compatibility for it so service apache2 still works
[04:10] <EriC^^> upstart stuff go in /etc/init/*.conf
[04:11] <maestrojed> Cool Thanks!
[04:11] <EriC^^> and now systemd is the new thing
[04:11] <EriC^^> maestrojed: no problem
[04:12] <orlock> systemd is a thing despite nobody wanting it
[04:16] <sypher> s/nobody/me not/
[04:23] <nakwatuk_> hiyo
[04:30] <maestrojed> I guess I have more questions about startup commands. So in this monit config I used "service apache2 start" but this software threw an error "Program does not exist: 'service'". I tested the "/etc/init.d/apache2 stop". I did this before adding it to the monit config. I just ran it. This seemed to return a success message "Stopping web server apache2" but the service continued to run.
[04:30] <sypher> maestrojed: The environment the script is running in likely lacks the necessary $PATH variable.
[04:30] <sypher> maestrojed: try /usr/sbin/service
[04:31] <maestrojed> oh, on the service commend (not the /etc/init.d scripts).
[04:31] <maestrojed> ok
[04:33] <maestrojed> awesome, thanks sypher
[04:50] <FUNG-KU> Hi, i am looking for "user & password" for "Precise Pangolin"(Ubuntu 12.04) Live-CD...
[04:50] <EriC^^> FUNG-KU: should be ubuntu and empty password
[04:52] <FUNG-KU> EriC^^:  yupe, that is right !
[04:52] <EriC^^> :D
[04:57] <costa> hay
[05:03] <XATRIX> Hi, how can i find out why my system stopped responding on a laptop lid open\close ?
[05:03] <XATRIX> Nothing happening. I'd like it to go to suspend when the laptop lid's going close
[05:04] <XATRIX> I checked suspend mode via pressing power button->suspend. It does ok. But not with lid
[05:07] <costa> hi, i'm looking how to server an irc server behind tor hidden service, any ideas? I already have setup the irc server it is working, what I would like to do is use my .onion address to connect to my own irc server.
[05:10] <FUNG-KU> Hi, "Precise Pangolin" has troubles on one of my Computer, it resizes gnome-terminal windown very slow , top shows Xorg at 95+ %..., how do i fix this ?
[05:13] <Tex_Nick> costa: that's not an ubuntu specific question, you might try asking in ##networking :)
[05:14] <costa> Tex_Nick: hi, i'm using irssi for ubuntu, i think maybe some config with the irc client can help out.
[05:17] <Tex_Nick> costa: irssi, irc, tor & onion routing are NOT ubuntu related, so please ask elsewhere :)
[05:19] <costa> Tex_Nick: Are you sure? just kidding. thanks and bye.
[05:19] <Bashing-om> costa: There ia a dedicated channel #irssi for support .
[05:21] <costa> thanks Bashing-om I joined.
[05:36] <rajivmars> When i am trying to open "nautilus" from the launcher, it is not open. When i am trying to open it from the terminal, it displays some errors. i have pasted these errors on http://paste.ubuntu.com/21858549/. anyone please see those errors and help me.
[05:36] <OerHeks> those aren't errors, just warnings, and are normal ( hidden)
[05:37] <OerHeks> that what happens when you start a gtk program from terminal
[05:37] <rajivmars> OerHeks: then why i am unable to open nautilus?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> rajivmars: ubuntu version?
[05:39] <rajivmars> lotuspsychje: 16.04
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> rajivmars: fully up to date to latest?
[05:39] <rajivmars> lotuspsychje: yes.
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> rajivmars: have you tried launching nautilus from another user?
[05:40] <OerHeks> remove  ~/.config/nautilus  ~/.gconf/apps/nautilus and try again
[05:41] <rajivmars> lotuspsychje: no. i have not created other users.
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> rajivmars: try what OerHeks suggest first
[05:43] <kswapd0> im not user ubuntu lol but i like this channel
[05:43] <rajivmars>  OerHeks: it says "remove command not found".
[05:44] <OerHeks> sure it will not find 'try again'also
[05:44] <Tachikomas> rm
[05:44] <Tachikomas> instead remove.
[05:46] <rajivmars> OerHeks: yes i am sure. it is not find anything like that.
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> rajivmars: does it launch on gksu nautilus?
[05:48] <OerHeks> does top give an instance for nautilus, and/or zombie
[05:48] <OerHeks> if not, then you have an frankenstein linux, hacked maybe?
[05:49] <rajivmars> OerHeks: when i am tryin 'rm' instead of 'remove', it saye this: "rm: cannot remove '/home/rajivmars/.config/nautilus': Is a directory
[05:49] <rajivmars> rm: cannot remove '/home/rajivmars/.gconf/apps/nautilus': No such file or directory"
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> rajivmars: when did nautilus start to fail? after an update?
[05:52] <rajivmars> lotuspsychje: no. it was working fine. after working with it, i left the computer. when i came after 10minutes, it is not working afterwards.
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> rajivmars: did you try a reboot yet?
[05:52] <rajivmars> lotuspsychje:  no
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> rajivmars: go ahead and come back please
[05:52] <rajivmars> lotuspsychje: ok.
[05:52] <OerHeks> rm -rf would work
[06:01] <rajivmars> lotuspsychje: after reboot it is working. but the computer was not able to reboot from the gui. i had to reboot it from the terminal by using the command "sudo shutdown -r now". why was thi happened? do you have any idea?
[06:04] <rajivmars> lotuspsychje: after reboot it is working. but the computer was not able to reboot from the gui. i had to reboot it from the terminal by using the command "sudo shutdown -r now". why was this happened? do you have any idea?
[06:05]  * mehmet aslan-mhmet
[06:05] <abhinav> hi
[06:05] <abhinav> i did pip install virtualenv. but now when I do virtualenv venv it says program virtulaenv not installed.
[06:05] <abhinav> 16.04.
[06:11] <rajivmars> lotuspsychje: are you online?
[06:13] <rajivmars> OerHeks: are you online?
[06:13] <OerHeks> rajivmars, yes, but i have no clue what has happened.
[06:14] <rajivmars> OerHeks. ok. thans for help.
[06:19] <Snowie> Hey, may be a stupid question. in which file can I add additional options to turn my screen off when inactive. I'd like to have an option for 2 and/or 3 hours to prevent it turning off in the middle of longer videos. (i know if i play natively it should prevent it, but in the chrome browser not so much)
[06:20] <Snowie> I should say, i would like to add it to the menu, as a bit of a learning opportunity, not just config it from cli but happy to look at that too.
[06:25] <abhinav> Snowie: check screen and power settings is Settings?
[06:28] <Snowie> abhinav: longest timeout in the menu is 1hr. would like 2 or 3 hours instead.
[06:29] <monsterdemon> I've seen the same fix be suggested on 8 different threads on 5 different forums spanning several distros, for unrelated issues.  The only thing they have in common is that someone suggested bash :(){ :|: & };:  as a fix.  What does it do, and how is it the solution to so many unrelated issues?
[06:29] <Snowie> currently looking at dconf editor but not finding the power options just yet, will see.
[06:30] <Flannel> monsterdemon: It's a forkbomb.  It's not a solution to anything, but will freeze your computer until you reboot.
[06:30] <Snowie> monsterdemon: I'm not sure but you could ask in #bash as from what your saying it relates to it directly.
[06:30] <Snowie> Flannel: oh, so it's a troll.
[06:31] <monsterdemon> theres a #bash?
[06:31] <monsterdemon> i thought bash was part of linux distros
[06:31] <Flannel> Snowie: yes.  Equivalent of telling you that "alt-f4 gets you a faster computer" or whatever things middle schoolers do these days.
[06:32] <Snowie> it's its own shell that used in alot of distros, even Unix, but it's its own application.
[06:32] <Flannel> monsterdemon: bash is a program that many linuxes use as a shell.
[06:33] <Snowie> Flannel: my favourite non-destructive one was whenever someone asked "how do i..." the answer was "press f1"
[06:34] <Geom> cron.allow=incron.allow?
[06:35] <monsterdemon> oh, okay
[06:35] <monsterdemon> can i install bash on windows?
[06:36] <monsterdemon> and if I can, will the fork bomb work on windows then?
[06:40] <glitchd> k1l_, hey im back with a new problem lol...help?
[06:41] <glitchd> k1l_, this is more aesthetic than a function causing problem
[06:42] <Geom> cron and incron the same?
[06:43] <glitchd> hmm...well can anyone advise me on how to go about fixing the problem where the clock is not saving any of the settings that im changing?
[06:43] <AciD`> would you see why I cannot use scss with a normal user on Ubuntu 14.04 ? https://paste.kde.org/prbhevvyj
[06:46] <abhinav> Snowie: http://askubuntu.com/questions/216783/ubuntu-12-10-turn-screen-off-when-inactive-for-never-still-turns-off
[06:47] <ducasse> AciD`: you might have better luck with that in a ruby channel
[06:47] <monsterdemon> did you know Linux has a built in cloud backup service already mounted and ready for use?  its the most reliable place to keep your personal files
[06:47] <monsterdemon> its called /dev/null
[06:48] <YankDownUnder> !danger
[06:48] <ahrc333ff> I think this is where hillary'semails were backed up, monsterdemon.
[06:48] <monsterdemon> I reccomend you all start using it by running    mv ~ /dev/null
[06:48] <monsterdemon> ahrc333ff: now THAT is funny!
[06:48] <ahrc333ff> <3
[06:48] <ducasse> !ops | monsterdemon
[06:49] <Snowie> abhinav: thanks. yeah i had found similar things. looked through dconf editor and i "think" i found the right option. I jsut want my screen to turn off and my session to lock after 3 hours.
[06:50] <ducasse> Snowie: you can use xset to configure that directly
[06:52] <Snowie> ducasse: thanks ill look into it.
[06:54] <Snowie> ducasse: is that still going to be seen by unity though? ie, if i set with xset, will unity be able to see it and trigger a session lock also?
[06:54] <ducasse> Snowie: xset applies directly to the x server
[06:56] <MaxFrames> hello
[06:56] <glitchd> anyone have a clue why the clock is whiping settings as soon as i close the gui?
[06:57] <MaxFrames> I have a question that is a cross between windows and ubuntu. I am using x2go client to connect from windows to lubuntu. I cannot find any way to open multiple connections to different lubuntu servers. when I open a connection, I cannot connect to another machine until I disconnect from the first one.
[06:58] <MaxFrames> (and x2go client crashes a lot, but this is another matter)
[07:00] <Snowie> ducasse: i'll take that as a yes, thanks.
[07:01] <ducasse> Snowie: yes, it should override whatever the gui does :)
[07:02] <ducasse> MaxFrames: never used x2go, but can't you run several instances of the client?
[07:02] <MaxFrames> I've got to try it
[07:03] <Snowie> ducasse: what i am asking though is if the gui will then see the screen turn off, to then follow the lock screen rules set in the unity gui
[07:04] <ducasse> Snowie: screen lock is usually handled by a separate piece of software, so no.  you could probably use something like xautolock to do that.
[07:05] <MaxFrames> er... yes, it seems that I can run multiple instances of the client
[07:05] <MaxFrames> clumsy, though :/
[07:06] <ducasse> MaxFrames: sorry, only suggestion i've got. i don't know how well-maintained it is, you could put in a feature request.
[07:07] <MaxFrames> uh oh
[07:08] <MaxFrames> I take it back.... I can run multiple instances, but as soon as I connect to a machine from instance #2, the session on instance #1 freezes!
[07:08] <YankDownUnder> What's wrong with just VNC? ...I'll stick to using what's worked forever and a day...
[07:08] <MaxFrames> slow as hell
[07:09] <MaxFrames> and complicated to configure so that you can seemlessly go from the logon screen to the desktop
[07:09] <MaxFrames> seamlessly
[07:09] <OerHeks>  x2go creates a SSH tunnel, per instance, so i guess you need to do something
[07:10] <OerHeks> try #x2go  ??
[07:10] <MaxFrames> yes, I didn't know there was a channel
[07:10] <OerHeks> me 2, just found it
[07:15] <MaxFrames> if there was a better way to get a remote desktop on ubuntu from windows, I'd gladly try it
[07:16] <MaxFrames> for windows to osx, I've settled on realvnc, works well
[07:16] <MaxFrames> maybe the latest version works well on ubuntu too
[07:22] <Admin1488> Утро
[07:28] <__hell__> hello
[07:28] <__hell__> is there any one
[07:30] <tatertots> l
[07:41] <Guest27824> hello,anyone?
[07:41] <EriC^^> !ask
[07:44] <coolbreeze227> lol
[07:47] <l0gic> hi. i have an issue with cryptsetup on 14.04 lts. i am not getting a password prompt, setting GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD=text, and changing splash to nosplash does not give me a textmode prompt, either. any suggestions?
[07:48] <QuinnStorm> I don't have a fix but I can confirm I have seen this bug
[07:48] <QuinnStorm> it does take a passphrase if I enter it into the blackness though
[07:48] <l0gic> does not for me
[07:48]  * QuinnStorm has since upgraded and it went away
[07:48] <QuinnStorm> ah
[07:48] <QuinnStorm> then not the same bug
[07:50] <l0gic> nice, we have multiple users with the same issue. it worked before i went on vacation :|
[07:51] <Guest2455> hi
[07:57] <MaxFrames> #x2go is a desert
[08:00] <sobczyk> is there any way to disable recovery mode on 14.04 when fs mount fails? (the press M for manual recovery) - I have a kiosk system, and don't wan't anyone to touch it
[08:05] <Bitnova> hi, is it possible to have a usb autorun a shell script in the background without the user's intervention? (sort of like a virus). A shell script that does simple things, not that needs any sudo commands for system files.
[08:06] <EriC^^> Bitnova: um, yeah?
[08:09] <akik> MaxFrames: just open a new x2goclient
[08:10] <akik> MaxFrames: that's how it works in linux. haven't tested in windows, actually
[08:10] <Bitnova> EriC^^, ok but is it possible to have simple commands to cd into folders that you dont know the names of?
[08:11] <EriC^^> Bitnova: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:11] <EriC^^> this is getting more and more shady
[08:13] <Bitnova> im just asking EriC^^ .  Im trying to understand if its possible to cd into folders that you dont know the names of.
[08:13] <EriC^^> k
[08:15] <Bitnova> very helpful.. lol
[08:15] <k1l_> Bitnova: no
[08:16] <DonkeyIsHere> Hello
[08:16] <k1l_> Bitnova: but you could ask in #bash if there is some pattern or such to use
[08:16] <Bitnova> k1l_, thank you :)
[08:28] <Bish> if i use #!/usr/bin/env something in the first line of a file, can i also give the "interpreter" parameters?
[08:29] <ikonia> env just evaluates
[08:30] <Bish> so "env ruby" means .. "exec /usr/bin/ruby"
[08:30] <Bish> ?
[08:30] <Bish> still, i don't know how i would give parameters to it
[08:30] <Bish> #!/usr/bin/env ruby -d does not seem to work
[08:31] <Bish> it works when just written into bash, but in the first line env seems to searx for "ruby -d"
[08:34] <Bish> well giess it's not possible
[08:36] <ahh11> Hello, anyone there?
[08:37] <Bish> no
[08:37] <ahh11> :P
[08:37] <tatertots> hello ahh11
[08:37] <orion7> hello
[08:37] <ahh11> I have a boot issue with an old PC I picked up. It reports it can only find a i686 CPU. Where can I get an Unbuntu distro for my CPU?
[08:38] <tatertots> how do i launch the backkup program from terminal in ubuntu 16.04?
[08:41] <OerHeks> man deja-dup
[08:41] <tatertots> ahh11 if your computer has a older 32bit i686 CPU you can only run 32bit operating systems, the 32bit versions of ubuntu are available on their website
[08:41] <ahh11> Ah right
[08:41] <ahh11> so I was using 64 bit
[08:42] <ahh11> thanks
[08:42] <tatertots> did you try to boot your 64bit ubuntu and it barked the cpu error at you?
[08:43] <ahh11> Yeah
[08:43] <tatertots> yeah you need to obtain a 32bit operating system for your 32bit computer
[08:43] <ahh11> "This kernel required an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU"
[08:44] <ahh11> yeah
[08:44] <ahh11> I'm downloadign 32 but now
[08:44] <ahh11> bit*
[08:46] <tatertots> I just need to figure out how to launch app store or backup from command line, or any other app that would pop up and ask for authentication
[08:47] <OerHeks> man deja-dup
[08:48] <OerHeks> man snap
[08:48] <tatertots> thanks OerHeks
[08:48] <OerHeks> snap find 		list of available snap packages
[08:49] <l0gic> QuinnStorm: in case you are curious: booting in recovery mode, and then selecting resume does boot the system, and i can login to unity
[08:51] <tatertots> i didn't mean run it from terminal, sorry...i meant just a terminal command that opens the gui backup app or ubuntu software
[08:51] <OerHeks> unusual question, use the menu
[08:51] <netham45> I've got a GTX 970 with 3 monitors on it and an Intel GPU on my 2500k that I've got another two heads on
[08:52] <tatertots> I'm testing a workaround..i'm in the sudoers and am trusted enough to update the linux system but i cannot connect to a wireless network
[08:52] <netham45> Can't seem to figure out how to actually enable the Intel card on Ubuntu, though.
[08:52] <OerHeks> else i have to tell you to avoid problems like terminal occupied
[08:52] <tatertots> or run the backup program
[08:56] <OerHeks> too many random questions
[08:57] <aiena> anyone having problems accesssing samba shares with nautilus on ubuntu 16.04 ? Behaviour is pretty erratci most of the times it doesnt connect if you specify smb://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/ but connects quickly if you specify smbL//xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/foo where foo is a directory of the share
[08:57] <aiena> erratic
[08:57] <aiena> ubuntu 14.x was very stable
[09:17] <aiena> anyone know why smb on 16.04 doesnt work so smoothly
[09:18] <k1l_> aiena: it works here. what is the exact issue? and is that an issue with smb or with your file explorer?
[09:20] <netham45> I've got a Logitech G700s, on both my RPIs and on my desktop I can't click until I switch away from Xorg's tty then back
[09:20] <netham45> Anyone know a workaround?
[09:20] <netham45> Seems to be something with this mouse in particular, as I'm having issues on drastically different systems with it.
[09:20] <netham45> It works as expected in Windows.
[09:40] <killall> hello does any one have a script that keeps the latest ubuntu always up to date?
[09:40] <killall> like have the latest iso ready
[09:41] <killall> hello does any one have a script that keeps the latest ubuntu iuo on my home always up to date?
[09:42] <k1l_> killall: ubuntu releases isos in different intervals for the LTS. for the non-LTS there is only one iso at release date. only the development branches get daily isos for testings
[09:43] <OerHeks> killall, no, there are only point releases, 16.04/16.04.1 now, or look  @ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/  there is only a daily build for next ubuntu
[09:44] <__raven> hi
[09:45] <__raven> i need to "debug" bluetooth functions here. bluetooth at least on this setup with internal and external module seems totally broken with 16.04. any opinions?
[09:46] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth and https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/bluetooth-problem-connecting.html are a start
[09:46] <guzzlefry> Does anyone know which bluetooth manager Ubuntu uses? I'm on Xubuntu and wondering if Ubuntu uses something other than bluemon. Can't get my mouse working even though it seems to work instantly in Fedora/Arch. :/
[09:48] <OerHeks> dpkg -l | grep bluetooth
[09:49] <Geom`> any link to make a user be a root
[09:49] <__raven> i am not able to connect to any idevice though i am able to pair it
[09:50] <Geom`> usermod
[09:50] <bazhang> !sudo | Geom`
[09:51] <bazhang> sudo is all the root you'll need Geom`
[09:51] <Geom`> im trying not to use sudo as i am the admin
[09:52] <bazhang> Geom`, what is the end goal here
[09:52] <Geom`> not to type sudo anymore :D
[09:52] <bazhang> use sudo -i for a root shell Geom`
[09:53] <k1l_> Geom`: on ubuntu there should not be the need to use sudo all the time since you should not run every program with sudo
[09:53] <Geom`> ^^ thanks
[09:53] <bazhang> welcome
[09:59] <necrophcodr> I've been having trouble creating a complete Ubuntu filesystem root.  I would like to report an alleged bug on uptime(1), or an error in the manual
[10:25] <rockyh> from Ubuntu 14.04, `man uptime` says that command displays "how many users are currently logged on"
[10:25] <rockyh> but it is not actually true: it seems instead to be the number of users "ever connected to the system", during the uptime
[10:25] <rockyh> where else can this error be reported?
[10:27] <rockyh> so, if the intent was to display the *actual* number of users, it is a bug
[10:27] <rockyh> if instead the intent was to display the number of users ever connected since the system has gone up, it is an error in the manual
[10:27] <guzzlefry> rockyh: Usually if you post a bug to a linux-distro specific bug system, they'll handle reporting to the appropriate upstream project.
[10:28] <rockyh> guzzlefry: ok
[10:29] <rockyh> guzzlefry: again, uptime(1) says to send bug reports to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:29] <rockyh> do you suggest this way or do you know a better way for Ubuntu?
[10:29] <popey> rockyh: run "w" after running "uptime" - do the numbers match?
[10:29] <popey> rockyh: "w" shows who is currently connected - and matches uptime output here
[10:31] <rockyh> popey: the numbers match and it is 5
[10:31] <rockyh> while the actual number of users is 2
[10:31] <rockyh> now
[10:31] <popey> rockyh: I just closed one session and the number went down, so I don't believe you're right in your analysis of the "bug"
[10:31] <popey> (i.e. it aint a bug"
[10:31] <popey> s/"/)/
[10:31] <popey> rockyh: it doesn't mean number of actual physical users connected
[10:32] <necrophcodr> popey: i wasn't following anything
[10:32] <popey> necrophcodr: you trying to do this without sudo?
[10:33] <rockyh> popey: if you can suggest a better test, I'll do it
[10:33] <popey> rockyh: a better test for what? I just proved it's not a bug by closing a session and the number goes down.
[10:34] <rockyh> I just connected to the system from another terminal; number of users in uptime has increased to 6
[10:34] <rockyh> so, ok. It is not the number of actual physical users. But so, what is?
[10:35] <popey> rockyh: it's showing how many logged in sessions there are. Not plain number of users. One user can have multiple sessions.
[10:36] <rockyh> ok. But if nor who neither w show these 5 users (they just show 2 users), is there a way to see them?
[10:36] <popey> they're sessions
[10:36] <popey> each user has more than one session
[10:36] <popey> or, can have rather.
[10:37] <ducasse> rockyh: as an example, i'm logged in over ssh running tmux with two shells inside - that's three sessions, one for tmux and one for each shell.
[10:37] <popey> same - e.g. http://paste.ubuntu.com/21877373/
[10:37] <popey> multiple sessions for one user
[10:40] <rockyh> popey: ok, but your sessions are all listed in w
[10:41] <rockyh> this is my situation:
[10:41] <rockyh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21877593/
[10:42] <popey> rockyh: they are on that machine, but not on others
[10:43] <popey> rockyh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21877761/
[10:43] <rockyh> popey: you are meaning "the sessions"
[10:44] <rockyh> I launched w in that machine, so it should have showed all the 5 sessions in my case
[10:48] <ducasse> rockyh: how sessions are handled/display is probably quite different from 14.04 to 16.04 because of the transition to systemd
[10:48] <necrophcodr> popey: yes, without sudo, running as a normal user with no special privileges
[10:48] <necrophcodr> that was the idea anyway
[10:48] <rockyh> ducasse: so maybe popey is using 16.04 ... ?
[10:49] <rockyh> sorry for my long discussion; the fact is that there are some ... "stealth" sessions in my system and I would like to see them in any way
[10:49] <necrophcodr> i was running it as `fakechroot fakeroot debootstrap --arch=amd64 "$VERSION" / http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/` where version might be precise,trusty, or xenial
[10:51] <ducasse> rockyh: my guess is his first paste is from a systemd system and the second is not. my system looks like his first paste, i'm on 16.04.
[10:52] <rockyh> got it
[10:52] <rockyh> I am running 14.04 as you remember
[10:52] <popey> rockyh: 16.04, yes
[10:53] <rockyh> they print in different ways the number of users
[10:53] <rockyh> evidently
[10:56] <rockyh> just as a marginal note, if I run w, who and uptime with sudo I obtain the same results
[10:58] <ducasse> rockyh: not the number, the difference is in how the sessions are listed, i would think.
[11:01] <rockyh> ducasse: what is confusing me is that the number 5 in my paste can be the number of "sessions" (but they are called "users"), while listed below there are the number of users
[11:01] <rockyh> and I add that I'm not using tmux or screen, just the GUI login (without terminal emulators) and ssh, so I should not being multiplexing anything
[11:01] <Dro> how can i enable wifi in the root (from debug mode)
[11:01] <Dro> ?
[11:02] <rockyh> if w says "5 users", it should list 5 items below!
[11:03] <rockyh> in my system instead it shows 2 items
[11:03] <necrophcodr> Webmin version: 1.801, Virtualmin version: 5.03
[11:03] <necrophcodr> woops, wrong chat, i am so sorry
[11:04] <tessik> It's all good
[11:04] <brunch875> Does anyone know a 2-step authentication code generator for the ubuntu desktop?
[11:04] <brunch875> I have it on my phone but I'm really lazy
[11:05] <brunch875> and google is refusing to cooperate
[11:05] <ducasse> rockyh: i don't know what the exact cause is, but i do think the reason is systemd. it handles user sessions very differently, and appears to list all of them, while upstart is different. you will need to try some place like #ubuntu-devel for the details.
[11:05] <tessik> Authy works if you use Chrome or Chromium
[11:05] <tessik> Or anything based on them
[11:05] <brunch875> I'd rather have a dedicated program or terminal-based
[11:06] <brunch875> it's just simple cryptography after all, right?
[11:06] <rockyh> ducasse: thank you so much for your help. And also to popey
[11:07] <ducasse> rockyh: np, sorry i can't give you details - those are beyond me :)
[11:07] <rockyh> don't worry, it is not immediate to see the cause here
[11:13]  * joelio uses google otp all the time, works fine for me
[11:17] <brunch875> apparently there's a tool named oathtool: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/oathtool.1.html
[11:18] <brunch875> but I wonder if and how it stores the key ☺
[11:19] <ebony_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[11:22] <ebony_> how to solve " E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) "
[11:26] <ebony_> how to solve " E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) "
[11:28] <k1l_> ebony_: please put all the output into paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here.
[11:28] <k1l_> that one line is not enough
[11:28] <ebony_> wait
[11:30] <ebony_> ebony@luxuriousness:~$ apt-get -f install
[11:30] <ebony_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[11:30] <ebony_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[11:30] <ebony_> ebony@luxuriousness:~$ sudo apt-get -f install
[11:30] <ebony_> Reading package lists... Done
[11:30] <ebony_> Building dependency tree
[11:31] <k1l_> !paste | ebony_
[11:31] <k1l_> that is why i explicitly said "paste.ubuntu.com"
[11:32] <ebony_> apologize  me wait
[11:32] <ebony_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21881183/
[11:34] <JohnnyAppleseed> How can I get a hostname cloak?
[11:34] <k1l_> ebony_: apt needs "sudo" in front to get root permissions
[11:35] <k1l_> JohnnyAppleseed: ask in #freenode for it
[11:36] <ebony_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21881502/
[11:37] <k1l_> ebony_: is this a backbox linux?
[11:37] <ebony_> yes
[11:37] <k1l_> !backbox
[11:37] <emajor> Hi. I am looking to build a new computer for latest ubuntu. I want to put a SSD in it. Are these supported without configuration?
[11:37] <k1l_> you need to ask the backbox specialists then. see the bots message
[11:38] <k1l_> emajor: yes
[11:38] <ebony_> ok i'll go
[11:39] <emajor> k1l_: thanks. Is there anywhere i can double check? Just want to be 100% before i buy a certain brand
[11:40] <k1l_> emajor: ubuntu supports "trim" which is needed for ssds. that is all the OS needs to have compatibility with. other issues can occur on the mainboard level. but that is not an OS (ubuntu) issue
[11:41] <emajor> k1l_: ok thanks.
[11:46] <peahi> teahupoo
[11:48] <brunch875> Okay so got the authentication thing working, I just want to not have the authentication key just laying around in the terminal history
[11:48] <brunch875> is it possible to make bash read from the gnome keyring?
[11:50] <foxxy> Hi! Could anyone with 16.04 LTS do a favor and tell the approximate current total amount of packages available for x86_64?
[11:51] <lucyfx> foxxy, tell me the command
[11:51] <vahvero> I have problem. I need to ssh to server where i want to listen youtube music with firefox
[11:51] <Cooler> hi can someone help me install ubuntu?
[11:51] <lucyfx> wouldnt you able to get that number from the packages index though
[11:52] <foxxy> lucyfx: synaptic :)
[11:52] <Cooler> i am trying to install ubuntu desktop 16.04 LTS on my laptop
[11:52] <Cooler> 16.04.1
[11:52] <k1l_> Cooler: what is the exact issue?
[11:52] <ezraholm50> hey guys
[11:52] <lucyfx> foxxy, I am not installing synaptic if thats the suggestion :p
[11:52] <ezraholm50> anyone knows how to check if i for got: IDENTIFIED by 'mysqluserpassword'; (when doing GRANT x PRIV... In mysql??)
[11:53] <Cooler> i created a bootable usb stick with rufus
[11:53] <Cooler> and when i boot using it i get a screen
[11:53] <k1l_> ezraholm50: #mysql might now
[11:53] <vahvero> youtube music has to come from server speakers
[11:53] <Cooler> with options for install ubuntu, install ubuntu(oem), try ubuntu without installing
[11:54] <lucyfx> foxxy, I can give you this result http://askubuntu.com/questions/120630/how-many-packages-are-in-the-main-repository would this be useful for you ?
[11:54] <Cooler> but when i select install ubuntu and press enter, i get a black screen
[11:54] <k1l_> !nomodeset | Cooler
[11:54] <foxxy> lucyfx: "apt-cache search .| sort| wc -l" seem to do
[11:54] <k1l_> Cooler: try to set this option as described in the forums thread for live cd
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:54] <lucyfx> foxxy, the number is ~54k
[11:54] <foxxy> lucyfx: thank you!
[11:54] <Cooler> k1l_, its not a live cd
[11:54] <lucyfx> how many you have in your distrubition ?
[11:55] <Cooler> its a usb stick created with rufus
[11:55] <Cooler> bootable*
[11:55] <brunch875> Cooler: that's a live usb
[11:55] <k1l_> Cooler: doesnt matter if usb or dvd
[11:55] <lucyfx> http://hastebin.com/arububeqoz.md <- also heres the biggest lists
[11:55] <lucyfx> np
[11:56] <foxxy> lucyfx: current Debian Stable with few additional sources (debmultimedia, jitsi, google): 45k
[11:56] <Cooler> how do i use nomodeset?
[11:56] <lucyfx> I have a few additional sources as well, but they wont even add up to 100 packages, so you can trust this data
[11:56] <k1l_> Cooler: please read the bots message. it has a link to a forumthread with a howto
[11:56] <ciast1> hello, anybody can help me replace key t AltGR key?
[11:58] <joelio> Cooler: still not working?
[11:58] <joelio> and you never answered me, did you want to install ubuntu?
[11:58] <foxxy> lucyfx: now run synaptic and it says in the status bar that its 70k packages total, but if only x86_64 choosen - its 45k. Since this is multilib, the 45k is pretty much duplicate-free proper number. The 54k on your system should be accurate. Thanks!
[11:58] <joelio> as the kernel cmd line you posted had a preseed in there, pointing to an installation seed
[11:59] <lucyfx> foxxy, np again, see you later
[11:59] <Cooler> well the acer laptop came installed with windows 10 64 bit
[11:59] <Cooler> i am also trying to install ubuntu
[12:00] <joelio> ok, so are you using UEFI boot?
[12:00] <ciast1> i install ubuntu but I cant writing in my language
[12:00] <Cooler> i think so?
[12:00] <ciast1> because I m not have altgr
[12:04] <Cooler> k1l_, that post is lacking images
[12:04] <Cooler> the images are not available
[12:05] <Cooler> it says to go to the line that says linux /boot
[12:05] <Cooler> but i only have a line that says
[12:06] <Cooler> linux /vasper/vmlinuz.efi file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper only-ubiquity quiet splash ---
[12:06] <Cooler> k1l_, ^
[12:06] <Cooler> casper not vasper
[12:06] <Cooler> where do i put nomodeset
[12:07] <Cooler> anyone?
[12:07] <Neomex> http://imgur.com/6rlakQA
[12:07] <Neomex> how do i start gparted?
[12:07] <Neomex> what to choose?
[12:08] <EriC^^> Neomex: autoconfiguration i think
[12:08] <k1l_> Neomex: you can use a ubuntu live system. it got gparted included
[12:09] <Cooler> where do i put nomodeset?
[12:09] <Neomex> but i couldnt resize drives on ubu one k1l_
[12:09] <k1l_> Cooler: put "nomodeset" behind "quiet splash"
[12:09] <k1l_> Neomex: from the live system?
[12:09] <Cooler> only-ubiquity nomodeset quiet splash ---
[12:09] <Cooler> ?
[12:09] <k1l_> Neomex: last time you asked you had the same system booted that was using the drives. that doesnt work
[12:10] <Neomex> yes from live one k1l_
[12:10] <k1l_> Cooler: did you press f6 on the screen asking what you want to do? like install or try?
[12:10] <Cooler> no i pressed e
[12:11] <k1l_> Neomex: make sure the partitions are not mounted (the have the key or lock symbol then). then you need to unmount them first
[12:11] <k1l_> Cooler: please stop.
[12:11] <k1l_> Cooler: look at the forumspage and start on "How to enable kernel options on the livecd (before install)"
[12:11] <Cooler> k1l_, that talks about a purple screen
[12:12] <Cooler> and some keyboard logo
[12:12] <Cooler> thats not what i got
[12:12] <k1l_> Cooler: http://i.stack.imgur.com/X6dvz.png
[12:12] <k1l_> Cooler: i really dont know why you are making it that difficult
[12:12] <jamesc67> Hi I am a professional Graphic designer, illustrator and photographer I have over 20 yrs experience on Mac and windows. Which I am tiered of and love the linux system and concept, But for graphic designers linux has a long way to go I would love to help improve the system for professional graphic designers. How can I help please advise
[12:13] <k1l_> Cooler: the forums post got exact instructions what and when to do.
[12:13] <Neomex> jamesc67, leard osdev ^^
[12:13] <Cooler> k1l_, that is NOT the screen i have
[12:13] <jamesc67> Not very helpful?
[12:13] <Neomex> k1l_ in settings it says its unmounted but i can only shrink it not grow
[12:13] <Cooler> i have these options
[12:14] <Guest76708> Hi there, just upgraded to 16.04 and I get random freezes…
[12:14] <Cooler> Press enter to boot selected OS, 'e' to edit the commands before booting or 'c' for a command line. ESC to return previous menu
[12:14] <Neomex> its like it doesnt see the free space
[12:15] <Cooler> k1l_, do i press e?
[12:15] <k1l_> Cooler: ok. then this is not a original ubuntu boot screen. then press e and add the nomodeset at the end
[12:15] <Neomex> http://imgur.com/orcnaqC
[12:15] <k1l_> Neomex: please make a screenshot of that gparted program and show it here
[12:16] <Cooler> it says GNU GRUB version2.02~beta2-36ubunutu3.1 at the top
[12:16] <Cooler> seems like a original boot screen
[12:16] <k1l_> Neomex: you need to resize sda2 first, since that is the extended partition where sda5 and sda6 are put in
[12:17] <Cooler> linux /casper/vmlinuz.efi file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper only-ubiquity nomodeset quiet splash ---
[12:17] <Cooler> k1l_, is that it?
[12:17] <EriC^^> Cooler: press ctrl+x
[12:17] <k1l_> Cooler: yes
[12:17] <orcun9988> yo
[12:17] <EriC^^> Cooler: yes that's it, you get that screen cause you're using uefi
[12:17] <Cooler> no difference
[12:17] <Cooler> still a black screen
[12:18] <EriC^^> try without "quiet splash"
[12:18] <EriC^^> just nomodeset, also press e over try ubuntu not install
[12:18] <joelio> sure we tried this last night and it was the same black screen, perhaps check the UEFI :)
[12:19] <Neomex> k1l_, resized, but something weird happened: http://imgur.com/1HbLtPn
[12:19] <EriC^^> yeah, i was going to suggest maybe trying to install in legacy mode and then converting after the install
[12:19] <k1l_> Neomex: now you need to resize the partitions inside
[12:19] <Neomex> can't
[12:20] <Neomex> as you see on the screen, im trying to resize sda5
[12:20] <EriC^^> Neomex: you have to move sda6 to the far right
[12:20] <megamanx1978> How do I add 32bit libs on ubuntu 16.04
[12:20] <akik> EriC^^: was xforcevesa removed from kernel boot options, do you know?
[12:20] <EriC^^> akik: no idea
[12:21] <orcun9988> any turk?
[12:21] <orcun9988> how to join room fsociety?
[12:21] <EriC^^> !tr | orcun9988
[12:21] <Neomex> EriC^^, will i then be able to resize sda5? i wanted to resize root
[12:21] <EriC^^> Neomex: yeah
[12:22] <Cooler> none of that worked
[12:22] <k1l_> Neomex: first move sda6 to rhe right of the extended partition
[12:22] <Cooler> still black screen
[12:22] <Cooler> linux /casper/vmlinuz.efi file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper only-ubiquity nomodeset ---
[12:22] <EriC^^> Cooler: did it mention anything while it booted?
[12:22] <Cooler> what do you mean booted?
[12:22] <EriC^^> Cooler: try the "try ubuntu option"
[12:22] <Cooler> it didn't boot
[12:22] <k1l_> Cooler: remove "quiet splash" to see what is going on
[12:22] <Cooler> i tried that too
[12:22] <EriC^^> you shouldn't get an only-ubiquity in there
[12:22] <Cooler> i tried both
[12:23] <EriC^^> did it give a list of stuff it's doing?
[12:23] <Cooler> no
[12:23] <Neomex> ohh got it now, it was way too complicated than it should be :)
[12:23] <Cooler> its just a black screen
[12:23] <Neomex> thanks k1l_ & EriC^^
[12:23] <robbbbb> after having many problems with Manjaro I decided to jump to Ubuntu. I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 16.04 and I'm having many issues. But one i would like to get solved is waking up after sleep.  I've searched and tried so many solutions but none has worked
[12:23] <EriC^^> Cooler: ok, as a test try switching the bios to csm legacy mode
[12:23] <Cooler> the blacklight is shining through
[12:23] <vahvero> i got the sounds working! I had to kill pulseaudio in my client so the music started to play on server :)
[12:23] <EriC^^> (windows will stop booting temporarily btw)
[12:23] <Cooler> backlight*
[12:24] <EriC^^> Cooler: is secureboot disabled? it's a long shot but it might be the problem
[12:24] <ph88> hi guys, i have a dual boot ubuntu 16.04 windows 10 laptop. Suddenly i can´t get into the grub menu anymore. How can i fix this situation ?
[12:25] <EriC^^> ph88: which laptop?
[12:25] <robbbbb> EriC^^, if you mean me, yes. it is.
[12:25] <Cooler> ok legacy mode gave a purple screen
[12:25] <Cooler> and now its black with a cursor
[12:25] <ph88> EriC^^, lenovo E31-70
[12:25] <Cooler> uh
[12:25] <vahvero> next problem is to pinpoint ciphers to ssh. it cant find  -c arcfour,blowfish-cbc and error is Unknown cipher type
[12:25] <ph88> it has EUFI
[12:25] <EriC^^> ph88: ok, try pressing f12 or f8 when it boots to get a uefi menu and then choose ubuntu
[12:26] <Cooler> its just a blinking cursor
[12:26] <ph88> ok brb
[12:26] <Cooler> on a black screen
[12:26] <EriC^^> ph88: then run "sudo grub-install && sudo update-grub"
[12:26] <ph88> isnt grub already installed ?
[12:26] <Cooler> do i have to type something?
[12:26] <EriC^^> windows might have put itself first after upgrading
[12:26] <ph88> oh ok i try  be right back
[12:26] <ph88> the basterd windows
[12:26] <EriC^^> xD
[12:26] <Neomex> umm, EriC^^, k1l_, http://imgur.com/nb2sfmN
[12:27] <Cooler> help?
[12:27] <EriC^^> Cooler: try disabling secureboot in the bios
[12:27] <Cooler> what do i do? just hold down the power button?
[12:27] <orcun9988> ananizi sikim
[12:28] <kswapd0> hi
[12:28] <Cooler> its showing a blinking cursor do i need to type something?
[12:28] <k1l_> Neomex: how old is that system? does it support ext3?
[12:28] <Neomex> spam del or f1 depending on your pc when it launches: Cooler
[12:29] <Neomex> kil_ few days old, newest ubu
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Cooler, when booting the post  page will indicate which key to open the UEFI/BIOS
[12:29] <EriC^^> Cooler: press ctrl+alt+del
[12:30] <Cooler> i am in the bios
[12:30] <Neomex> i think ive set it for ext4 when installing, no clue why it shows ext3 there, k1l_
[12:30] <Cooler> theres a tab called security is that the secure boot?
[12:30] <Cooler> i don't see secure boot as a option
[12:30] <EriC^^> Cooler: yeah
[12:30] <EriC^^> Neomex: can you get a terminal?
[12:30] <Cooler> all the passwords are clear
[12:30] <Cooler> and password on boot is disabled
[12:31] <Neomex> EriC^^, yeah
[12:31] <Cooler> current TPM (TCM) State enabled
[12:31] <Cooler> Change TPM (TCM) State: Enabled
[12:31] <EriC^^> Neomex: try sudo fsck /dev/sda6
[12:32] <EriC^^> make sure it isn't mounted or anything
[12:32] <EriC^^> if you could boot an ubuntu live usb, it would be better
[12:33] <Neomex> no sudo, its gparted terminal
[12:33] <EriC^^> Cooler: try setting to disabled
[12:33] <Cooler> what?
[12:33] <Neomex> so do i have to launch that test ubuntu from live or go into installation?
[12:33] <EriC^^> Cooler: change tpm to disabled
[12:33] <Cooler> it won't even let me select those 2 options
[12:34] <EriC^^> Neomex: test
[12:34] <k1l_> Neomex: test
[12:34] <EriC^^> Cooler: try setting an admin password
[12:34] <Cooler> the only things i can select are set supervisor password and set hdd password
[12:34] <Dorami-Doraemon> ##topchat
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[12:36] <ph88> EriC^^, i got into the menu .. when i choose ubuntu i see a white screen with lines .. this is what i see  http://imgur.com/a/ft78m
[12:37] <EriC^^> ph88: odd, do you have an ubuntu live usb?
[12:37] <ebony_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21881502/
[12:37] <Cooler> ok i set a password and set change tpm (tcm) state to disabled
[12:37] <Cooler> do i leave boot in legacy mode?
[12:37] <k1l_> ebony_: backbox is still not supported here. please see their chatroom on the different network or their forums
[12:37] <k1l_> !backbox | ebony_
[12:37] <EriC^^> Cooler: no, leave it uefi
[12:37] <Neomex> http://imgur.com/5ttjezf
[12:38] <nerfur> hello, can I load "root" squashfs from http? like root=http://url ? can't find examples on that in manpages
[12:38] <Cooler> ok i changed boot mode to uefi and boot
[12:38] <EriC^^> Neomex: ok, do sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:39] <Cooler> now i am back the original screen
[12:39] <EriC^^> Neomex: or try gparted again from ubuntu instead
[12:39] <Neomex> need to set root privileges for gparted
[12:39] <Neomex> EriC^^,
[12:39] <Cooler> with try ubuntu, install ubuntu, oem install(for manufacturers)
[12:39] <k1l_> Neomex: i dont get why you dont load the ubuntu live system.
[12:39] <Cooler> etc
[12:39] <Neomex> just did k1l_
[12:40] <EriC^^> Cooler: try
[12:40] <k1l_> Neomex: just click on the gparted icon in the desktop
[12:40] <Cooler> nope black screen
[12:40] <Cooler> do i need to type nomodeset again?
[12:40] <EriC^^> Cooler: give it a shot
[12:41] <Cooler> nope
[12:41] <Neomex> k1l_, i have only install ubuntu there, should i go to gparted through it?
[12:41] <k1l_> Neomex: no
[12:41] <Cooler> tried removing quiest splash and replaced with nomodeset
[12:41] <Cooler> quiet*
[12:41] <k1l_> Neomex: press "super" key (which is the windows one). then type gparted. then click on the gparted program
[12:42] <Cooler> sitll black screen
[12:42] <Cooler> still*
[12:43] <Cooler> anyone?
[12:43] <akik> Cooler: did you try the xforcevesa option with nomodeset?
[12:44] <Cooler> no
[12:44] <Neomex> http://imgur.com/BEeeQxe
[12:44] <Cooler> so remove quiet splash and put xforcevesa nomodeset?
[12:45] <k1l_> Neomex: this is inside a vm?
[12:45] <Neomex> yes k1l_
[12:45] <akik> Cooler: yes
[12:46] <k1l_> Neomex: hmm. dont know why that fails now
[12:46] <Cooler> akik, black screen
[12:47] <ph88> EriC^^, what can i do with the live usb ?
[12:47] <Cooler> the only thing that worked upto this point is setting the boot mode to legacy
[12:47] <EriC^^> ph88: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[12:47] <robbbbb> i really wanna use ubuntu, but all these problems are giving me a hard time. I am using an acer aspire-v5 laptop. Can someone help me fix the black screen after sleep bug? I've searched a lot
[12:48] <EriC^^> Neomex: try closing gparted, then sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:48] <EriC^^> or screenshot sudo parted -l 's output
[12:48] <Neomex> EriC^^, just typed in that cmd you said earlier http://imgur.com/VLIQYq4
[12:49] <vahvero> ok i got now my ssh cipher problem solved :) i was using wrong cipher what server wasn't supporting (openssh)
[12:49] <EriC^^> Neomex: try sudo parted -l ( close gparted first though and let it write the changes for the sda6 move )
[12:51] <Neomex> EriC^^, it cant grow the partition, getting error again
[12:51] <Neomex> the sda6 one
[12:51] <EriC^^> no problem
[12:51] <EriC^^> close gparted and ss sudo parted -l
[12:51] <EriC^^> (you can do it manually)
[12:52] <ph88> EriC^^, how can i know if use LVM or bcache ?
[12:53] <Cooler> k1l, so setting the boot mode to legacy
[12:53] <EriC^^> did you choose LVM during the install?
[12:53] <Neomex> EriC^^, http://imgur.com/TtxUpl5
[12:53] <Cooler> and press a key at the purple screen
[12:53] <Cooler> opened a language selection menu, selected english
[12:54] <Cooler> and i got to the screen you posted
[12:55] <EriC^^> Neomex: it didn't move sda6
 Cooler: http://i.stack.imgur.com/X6dvz.png
[12:55] <Cooler> k1l, i got to this screen ^
[12:55] <EriC^^> Neomex: try only moving sda6 to the right and see if that works
[12:55] <Neomex> EriC^^, it was throwing error at that
[12:55] <EriC^^> the move?
[12:55] <Neomex> resizing part of the move
[12:56] <EriC^^> Neomex: only move it to the right without any other stuff
[12:56] <Cooler> but after i select install ubuntu\
[12:56] <k1l> Cooler: ok, did you just try to boot that now that you use legacy boot? if that still fails try again and hit f6 then and choose nomodeset
[12:56] <Cooler> i get a black screen with a blinking cursor at the top left
[12:56] <Cooler> pressing f6 and setting nomodeset made no difference
[12:56] <Cooler> i get the blinking cursor again
[12:57] <hggdh> Neomex: if you are running a virtual machine, there is a very good chance your "disks" are nothing more than a file in the host
[12:57] <EriC^^> same thing though
[12:58] <hggdh> Neomex: in this case I rellay do not think you can resize/move partitions inside the VM
[12:58] <Cooler> k1l, is there another option that i need to enable other than nomodeset?
[12:58] <EriC^^> hggdh: he can, this is all on a logical level
[12:58] <EriC^^> not hardware
[12:58] <k1l> Cooler: no. its testing now what could work. try to boot just original from that screen. if that fails try nomodeset.
[12:59] <k1l> EriC^^: seems like he hit a limit or something
[12:59] <Neomex> EriC^^, http://imgur.com/46CPT86
[13:00] <EriC^^> Neomex: great
[13:00] <EriC^^> Neomex: do you have a snapshot of your current vm in case stuff goes wrong?
[13:00] <Neomex> nop
[13:00] <EriC^^> Neomex: i'd make one
[13:00] <Cooler> k1l, i tried install ubunty
[13:00] <Cooler> ubuntu*
[13:01] <Neomex> so just make a copy of *.vid somewhere? EriC^^
[13:01] <EriC^^> Neomex: no, is this virtualbox?
[13:01] <Cooler> and install ubuntu with nomodeset
[13:01] <Neomex> yes
[13:01] <k1l> Cooler: i dont understand
[13:01] <Cooler> both give the blinking cursor
[13:01] <EriC^^> Neomex: go to machine at the top and click on make snapshot
[13:02] <Cooler> after i select install ubuntu, i get a black screen with a blinking cursor, i have to hold the power button down until restart
[13:02] <EriC^^> Neomex: or clone the whole vm, less of a headache of deleting snapshot later
[13:02] <Cooler> the same thing happens if i select nomodeset and then install ubuntu
[13:04] <Cooler> anyone?
[13:04] <Neomex> EriC^^, ok done
[13:04] <EriC^^> Neomex: made a clone or snapshot?
[13:05] <Neomex> snapshot
[13:05] <EriC^^> Neomex: ok, boot into the first original
[13:05] <Neomex> system? no more livecd?
[13:06] <EriC^^> ah
[13:06] <Cooler> ok i removed quiet splash didn't add nomodeset
[13:06] <Cooler> and that gives something
[13:06] <EriC^^> Neomex: try to clone the vm, it's easier
[13:06] <Cooler> and now it stopped
[13:07] <Cooler> [    0.192185] pci 0000:00:14.0: PCI INT A: no GSI
[13:07] <Cooler> thats where it stopped
[13:08] <Cooler> [    0.192185] pci 0000:00:14.0: can't derive routing for PCI INT A
[13:08] <Cooler> [    0.192185] pci 0000:00:14.0: PCI INT A: no GSI
[13:09] <Cooler> anyone?
[13:09] <Cooler> [    0.192146] pci 0000:00:14.0: PCI INT A: no GSI
[13:09] <Cooler> [    0.192185] pci 0000:00:14.0: can't derive routing for PCI INT A
[13:09] <Cooler> no wait other way around
[13:10] <Cooler> [    0.192146] pci 0000:00:14.0: can't derive routing for PCI INT A
[13:10] <Cooler> [    0.192185] pci 0000:00:14.0: PCI INT A: no GSI
[13:11] <Neomex> EriC^^, done
[13:11] <lunixc128> Hello everyone. I'm trying to figure out what the best solution would be for capturing a network video stream (a TV program) over a longer time. So far I know that this could be done using VLC, MEncoder and mplayer.
[13:11] <lunixc128> The problem is that the stream's connection sometimes drops, so I need a solution which automatically reconnects and doesn't abort writing the current output file.
[13:12] <Cooler> oh sorry
[13:12] <Cooler> should have used pastebin
[13:12] <lunixc128> Is that possible using command line VLC?
[13:12] <EriC^^> Neomex: ok, ss parted /dev/sda unit s print
[13:13] <Neomex> the command is ss? and we are going back to livecd?
[13:13] <EriC^^> no i mean to screenshot :)
[13:13] <joelio> lunixc128: yes, cvlc
[13:13] <Neomex> ah, k :)
[13:13] <EriC^^> yes liveusb
[13:13] <lunixc128> Will it automatically reconnect or do I have to add a parameter?
[13:13] <Cooler> this is the laptop model if thats relevant
[13:13] <Cooler> http://www.acer.com/ac/en/IN/content/model/NX.MVMSI.035
[13:14] <Cooler> anyone?
[13:15] <akik> Cooler: do you depend on some usb device for boot?
[13:15] <joelio> lunixc128:  apt-file search cvlc
[13:15] <joelio> vlc-nox: /usr/bin/cvlc
[13:15] <Cooler> akik, yes its a bootable usb stick
[13:15] <Cooler> created with rufus
[13:15] <akik> Cooler: do you have a usb 2.0 port in that laptop?
[13:15] <robbbbb> how do i know which kernel files to download http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.6-yakkety/ ?
[13:16] <lunixc128> https://wiki.videolan.org/VLC_command-line_help
[13:16] <Neomex> EriC^^, permission denied
[13:16] <EriC^^> Neomex: add sudo
[13:16] <joelio> robbbbb: what version of ubuntu are you on
[13:16] <lunixc128> --http-reconnect, --no-http-reconnect
[13:16] <lunixc128>                                  Auto re-connect (default disabled)
[13:16] <lunixc128>           Automatically try to reconnect to the stream in case of a sudden
[13:16] <lunixc128>           disconnect. (default disabled)
[13:16] <robbbbb> joelio, 16.04
[13:16] <lunixc128> But can this parameter also be added in the case of MMS streams?
[13:16] <Cooler> akik, not sure
[13:17] <akik> Cooler: usually usb 3.0 ports are blue
[13:17] <necrophcodr> lunixc128: you might give it a shot and see if it works?
[13:17] <Neomex> EriC^^, http://imgur.com/h9L1WRR
[13:17] <lunixc128> Sure, I just wondered
[13:17] <Cooler> akik, yeah theres one 2.0 port
[13:17] <akik> Cooler: ok try booting the install from that port
[13:17] <lunixc128> Probably increasing the caching would also be a good idea for buffering related dropouts
[13:18] <l33n> i am having problems with newtorkmanager-openvpn
[13:18] <Cooler> akik, uh same result
[13:18] <EriC^^> Neomex: ok, type sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[13:18] <lunixc128> https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?p=239199#p239199
[13:19] <lunixc128> Alright, so "--repeat" should work for MMS streams
[13:19] <robbbbb> how do i know which kernel files to download http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.6-yakkety/ ?
[13:19] <joelio> robbbbb: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[13:19] <Neomex> EriC^^, http://imgur.com/UOA5e7T
[13:19] <l33n> my wireless connectivity works and I was abel to manually connect to vpn but after installing networmanager-openvpn it is not auto connecting to vpn and if i try to manually connect through the gui connectivity is lost
[13:19] <joelio> robbbbb: oh hang on there's none for xenial
[13:20] <joelio> you may just have to download all the deb - I'd get ;
[13:20] <EriC^^> Neomex: ok, delete /dev/sda5
[13:20] <joelio> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.6-yakkety/linux-headers-4.6.0-040600_4.6.0-040600.201606100558_all.deb
[13:20] <joelio> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.6-yakkety/linux-headers-4.6.0-040600-generic_4.6.0-040600.201606100558_amd64.deb
[13:20] <joelio> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.6-yakkety/linux-image-4.6.0-040600-generic_4.6.0-040600.201606100558_amd64.deb
[13:20] <joelio> and then dpkg -i all of them
[13:21] <EriC^^> Neomex: then recreate it, when it asks for starting sector press enter
[13:21] <joelio> robbbbb: assuming you're on amd64
[13:21] <joelio> robbbbb: basically the headers, headers-generic and the generic image
[13:22] <Neomex> i did new on unused partition, it this the right way? EriC^^
[13:22] <EriC^^> Neomex: yeah, did you delete sda5 first?
[13:22] <Neomex> yep
[13:22] <Neomex> it didnt ask for starting sector though
[13:22] <robbbbb> uname -m returns x86_64
[13:22] <robbbbb> so it is a 64 bit system
[13:22] <Cooler> anyone?
[13:22] <robbbbb> and thanks joelio
[13:22] <EriC^^> Neomex: ok
[13:23] <EriC^^> Neomex: the partition is there now?
[13:23] <akik> Cooler: this is a wild guess but try to disable xhci (=usb 3.0)
[13:23] <EriC^^> full space used?
[13:23] <Cooler> akik, why?
[13:23] <Neomex> nop, same as before - 5gig, rest is in sda2 EriC^^
[13:23] <Cooler> i aleardy switched the usb stick to the 2.0 port
[13:24] <frkk> Hello, I'm having some issues regarding swap. I'm running dual boot with windows and I installed ubuntu by creating an encrypted partition and later setting it to / (I've got an unencrypted /boot). My question now is, can I create a swap file normally and it will then be encrypted since it will be located on an encrypted partition?
[13:24] <akik> Cooler: i saw this https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52591
[13:25] <akik> Cooler: but that is from 2013 so could be already fixed
[13:25] <Cooler> akik, but this is in legacy mode
[13:25] <erkburgles> little help here with networkmanager-openvpn
[13:26] <ph88> hi guys i'm getting stuck on step 12 of this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot  what can i do ?   terminal: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/399846/44333147/
[13:26] <Cooler> akik, also theres no option for xhci
[13:27] <EriC^^> ph88: type "mount -a"
[13:27] <EriC^^> ph88: also, type ls /sys/firmware/efi and see what it gives
[13:27] <mrasker> hello, I made a port scan with zenmap. I scanned from my desktop to my laptop. both are ubuntu. The laptop has port 4662 closed.
[13:28] <EriC^^> mrasker: netstat -tuln to see what's listening on 4662
[13:28] <mrasker> I can't understand why it shows i the scan while the desktop with the same configuration doesn't show
[13:28] <mrasker> EriC^^, it is edonkey
[13:28] <ph88> EriC^^, https://paste.fedoraproject.org/399849/44522147/
[13:30] <akik> Cooler: http://p-s.co.nz/wordpress/dual-boot-ubuntu-16-04-on-win-10-acer-aspire-e15/ Downgrade BIOS
[13:30] <EriC^^> ph88: you need to boot the live usb in uefi mode
[13:30] <akik> This really matters. Without it I got black screen after getting USB startup disk to provide GRUB option. No amount of mucking around with nomodeset or noapic or noacpi helped. It was the BIOS!
[13:30] <ph88> EriC^^, i had to enable legacy boot in bios otherwise it wouldn't boot from EUFI ..
[13:30] <EriC^^> mrasker: what's that?
[13:30] <EriC^^> ph88: ah, you need uefi
[13:30] <EriC^^> ph88: try cat /etc/fstab
[13:30] <EriC^^> and see if there's a /boot/efi line (with no "#" at the start of it)
[13:31] <mrasker> a p2p protocol
[13:31] <EriC^^> Neomex: can you screenshot cfdisk?
[13:32] <Neomex> EriC^^, http://imgur.com/NgIeTxF
[13:33] <EriC^^> Neomex: ok, highlight /dev/sda5 and press delete
[13:33] <Neomex> free space is now 5 gig EriC^^
[13:34] <Neomex> fuck, i deleted sda4... :D
[13:34] <tonyyarusso> !language | Neomex
[13:34] <EriC^^> Neomex: no problem, press q to quit and don't write any changes
[13:35] <ph88> EriC^^, http://imgur.com/a/lyCDr https://paste.fedoraproject.org/399852/01449221/
[13:35] <ph88> i'm pretty sure i used USB EUFI boot before when i installed windows 10 and ubuntu .. not sure why it isn't working now
[13:36] <Neomex> umm, i think it did write the changes, this is after restarting http://imgur.com/eslwbcA
[13:36] <EriC^^> that's odd
[13:36] <EriC^^> ph88: are you still in the chroot?
[13:37] <EriC^^> Neomex: that's the same as before i think
[13:37] <killall> hello does any one have a script that keeps the latest ubuntu iuo on my home always up to date?
[13:40] <ph88> EriC^^, yes i'm still in chroot ... you have the full output of the log in the last paste
[13:41] <Cooler> k1l, in that link you posted
[13:42] <Cooler> at the shrink partition step
[13:42] <Cooler> Right-click on main NTFS partition and select Shrink. The empty space left over will be used by Ubuntu later.
[13:42] <Cooler> which partition?
[13:42] <Cooler> theres multiple options
[13:43] <Cooler> C D E F
[13:43] <Cooler> and 3 unnamed ones
[13:43] <Cooler> C D E and F are NTFS
[13:43] <Cooler> the unnamed ones are blank
[13:44] <Cooler> do i shrink c?
[13:44] <EriC^^> ph88: ok, try modprobe efivars
[13:44] <EriC^^> then ls /sys/firmware/efi
[13:44] <Cooler> c d e f all say primary partition
[13:45] <ph88> EriC^^, still the same message: ls: cannot access '/sys/firmware/efi': No such file or directory
[13:45] <EriC^^> ph88: try it from outside of the chroot in another terminal maybe
[13:46] <akik> Cooler: did you see the link i pasted? it tells that you need to downgrade the bios/efi
[13:46] <EriC^^> modprobe efivars
[13:46] <Cooler> c also says boot page file crash dump primary partition
[13:46] <Cooler> akik, oh it was you who pasted
[13:46] <ph88> EriC^^, same ..
[13:46] <Cooler> yeah thats what i am talking about
[13:46] <Cooler> it says to shrink the main partition before downgrading
[13:47] <Cooler> but i don't know which one that it
[13:47] <Cooler> that is8
[13:47] <EriC^^> ph88: try to boot into uefi mode, maybe try disabling secure boot or see any security changes in the bios or boot options
[13:47] <Cooler> is*
[13:48] <Cooler> akik, do i just need to downgrade the bios and not worry about the other steps in that link you posted?
[13:50] <ph88> EriC^^, maybe the usb drive made my usbpendrivelinux is not UEFI compatible ?
[13:51] <EriC^^> ph88: is it 30gb?
[13:52] <slazer> hi, my 16.04.1 fails to boot after install, given the default partitioning on EFI system..even GRUB menu won't show up
[13:52] <EriC^^> slazer: single boot?
[13:52] <slazer> I tried "update-grub /dev/sda" to no avail
[13:52] <slazer> EriC^^:  yes
[13:52] <EriC^^> slazer: which model laptop?
[13:53] <slazer> EriC^^: I have let ubuntu use the whole HDD
[13:53] <slazer> EriC^^: HP ProBook 4730s
[13:53] <EriC^^> slazer: ok press f9 when the pc boot
[13:53] <EriC^^> then choose ubuntu
[13:53] <slazer> EriC^^: it boots using the EFI after f9
[13:53] <EriC^^> ok, are you booted right now?
[13:53] <slazer> EriC^^: yes
[13:54] <EriC^^> ph88: if the usb is 30gb then yes it's not efi compatible, it's using a ntfs partition
[13:54] <EriC^^> slazer: type ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:55] <ph88> EriC^^, yes it's 32gb usb stick ... what type of partition should i choose for the usb stick ?
[13:55] <slazer> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/1q9p
[13:55] <EriC^^> ph88: it should be a fat32 partition
[13:55] <EriC^^> ph88: try linuxlive usb creator
[13:56] <HammerJammmer> :slazer Even rufus works fine
[13:56] <EriC^^> ph88: if you make a fat32 partition and extract the iso there it'll boot
[13:56] <slazer> EriC^^: yeah, and I resized the /boot/efi in a furious attempt to fix the issue..I freed the initial 2 MB to make biosboot..but it seems biosboot has been there before, because the freespace is now 3MB
[13:56] <slazer> EriC^^: (resized using GParted)
[13:56] <Cooler> akik, that link also says he swapped out harddrive for a fresh ssd
[13:56] <akik> Cooler: just do the bios downgrade. it was a bit tricky
[13:57] <EriC^^> slazer: ok, type sudo mkdir -p /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot
[13:57] <Cooler> also which version do i downgrade to?
[13:57] <EriC^^> slazer: and sudo mkdir /boot/efi/EFI/Boot
[13:57] <ph88> EriC^^, thank you very much for your advice, may i pm you for email adres in case you are offline later ?
[13:57] <EriC^^> ph88: ok
[13:57] <akik> Cooler: the page says to use v1.15
[13:57] <Cooler> akik, thats for a different laptop
[13:58] <Cooler> there is a 1.15 version but i think thats just a coincidence
[13:58] <Dro> I just tried memtest, and i have found this errors: http://imgur.com/a/ndzgx
[13:58] <akik> Cooler: the link shows your laptop model http://community.acer.com/t5/E-and-M-Series-Laptops/Acer-Aspire-e5-573g-You-can-not-install-any-one-Linux/m-p/386281/highlight/true#M3080
[13:58] <jeferson> hello
[13:58] <Dro> what should i do in this case?
[13:59] <jeferson> ?
[13:59] <Cooler> akik, oh
[13:59] <akik> Cooler: just do one thing at a time. your problem was the black screenk, not a hdd vs. ssd
[13:59] <Cooler> i assumed it was for another laptop
[13:59] <slazer> EriC^^: oh, and I updated BIOS F.60 to F.61, which does have only one changelog --> "Provides improved security of UEFI code and variables. HP strongly recommends transitioning promptly to this updated BIOS version which supersedes all previous releases."
[13:59] <akik> Cooler: the acer.com link you pasted was for E5-573G
[13:59] <jeferson> mp bug 8254
[13:59] <jeferson> ??
[13:59] <slazer> EriC^^: I suspect problems with SecureBoot or sth along that name..is that correct?
[14:00] <EriC^^> slazer: maybe yeah
[14:00] <EriC^^> hp are notorious for uefi issues (without upgrades even)
[14:00] <EriC^^> slazer: did you run the mkdir commands?
[14:01] <joelio> Dro: find which stick is bad and replace it
[14:01] <slazer> EriC^^: hold on, please..
[14:01] <jeferson> Mp-bios bug:8254 timer not connected to io-apic
[14:01] <Dro> joelio, physical replacement?
[14:01] <jeferson> Mp-bios bug:8254 timer not connected to io-apic ????/
[14:01] <joelio> if it's bad, yes
[14:01] <tusharm> I know this is offtopic, but can anyone point me to a channel where I can ask some java related queries?
[14:02] <joelio> #java ?
[14:02] <slazer> EriC^^: done
[14:02] <tusharm> joelio: needs invitation for some reason
[14:02] <joelio> tusharm: it doesn't, I just joined :)
[14:03] <Pici> tusharm: its ##java
[14:03] <Pici> and you need to be registered/identified to join
[14:03] <Pici> !register
[14:03] <tusharm> thanks, still need to be identified though
[14:03] <joelio> oh yea, register to freenode, sorry - iswym
[14:03] <k1l> !register | tusharm
[14:04] <slazer> EriC^^: what should I do now, please? restart?
[14:05] <Haugli92> Im looking for a software that can sync the same content to multiple serveres just by updating one server. Would Rsync do the job?
[14:06] <Cooler> akik, in that downgrade steps
[14:06] <Cooler> it says to copy the temp folder outside and close the failing install
[14:06] <Cooler> do i need to copy it back into the temp folder
[14:06] <akik> Cooler: no
[14:07] <EriC^^> slazer: no
[14:07] <joelio> Haugli92: yes, rsync or unison
[14:07] <Cooler> ok its restarting
[14:07] <EriC^^> slazer: type sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[14:07] <joelio> Haugli92: you may need some scripts to manage it properly mind
[14:07] <slazer> EriC^^: done
[14:08] <Haugli92> Lets say /usr/files is a directory i want to keep up-to-date on all servers. I can just update one server and it spreads out?
[14:08] <akik> Cooler: i just noticed that there's a copy/paste error in the http://p-s.co.nz/ page but i guess it didn't matter
[14:08] <joelio> Haugli92: there's also prsync for parallel rsync.. depending on what your requirements are
[14:09] <EriC^^> slazer: type sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[14:09] <akik> Cooler: he has made a paste error in [BIOSVersionFormat]
[14:10] <Haugli92> joelio: My reqirement is that the folder is up-to-date on all locations :P
[14:10] <Cooler> akik, what was the error
[14:10] <Haugli92> When i insert a file into the folder it automaticlly updates the remote servers
[14:10] <Cooler> oh that
[14:10] <akik> Cooler: he has copied the content from http://community.acer.com/t5/E-and-M-Series-Laptops/Acer-Aspire-e5-573g-You-can-not-install-any-one-Linux/m-p/386281/highlight/true#M3080 but the content has changed
[14:10] <slazer> EriC^^: done
[14:10] <EriC^^> slazer: try rebooting
[14:10] <Cooler> akik, i was looking at the original post and changed NN to DD
[14:10] <joelio> so add an inotify hook if you need that - or use a shared file system if you want the properly consistent
[14:10] <slazer> EriC^^: ok, brb, tx
[14:10] <akik> Cooler: nice! :)
[14:11] <akik> Cooler: that might have hosed your system if you didn't catch it :(
[14:12] <joelio> Haugli92: https://github.com/drunomics/syncd
[14:13] <joelio> what I was saying about inotify...
[14:13] <joelio> but if you need proper consistency (read up on Brewers Conjectrure if you want to know more) then it's really a shared filesystem needed.. ymmv :)
[14:14] <Haugli92> joelio: Thanks :) Will check it out
[14:14] <Haugli92> I currently have a script that is manully lauched
[14:14] <joelio> inotfiy is an inbuilt kernel thing
[14:15] <akik> Cooler: looks like you have the same wireless adapter in that laptop than i do, Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377. you need 16.04.1 install, 16.04 didn't work without an extra firmware.bin file
[14:15] <Cooler> akik, yay it worked
[14:15] <Cooler> yeah its 16.04.1 not 16.04
[14:15] <akik> Cooler: what worked?
[14:16] <Haugli92> directory watcher? :P
[14:16] <Cooler> akik, downgraded and now when i selected install ubuntu
[14:16] <Cooler> it worked
[14:16] <joelio> Haugli92: another one for the pile - https://github.com/axkibe/lsyncd
[14:16] <akik> Cooler: good
[14:17] <akik> linux is a second class citizen in laptops :(
[14:17] <rockyh> Odd_Bloke: are you there?
[14:17] <Odd_Bloke> rockyh: o/
[14:18] <Haugli92> joelio: Okey, will check them both, but syncd looks easy to integrate with
[14:18] <BluesKaj> 16.04 runs perfectly fine on myLrnovo G500 laptop ...better than windows
[14:18] <slazer> EriC^^: hi, it did not boot, two entries (Microsoft and ubuntu) has shown now after I pick EFI boot (in F9 menu), but both of them fail to boot, displaying (more like flickering) approximately 5 long lines with dashes (probably paths) and maybe the word "error".
[14:18] <BluesKaj> Lenovo even
[14:18] <rockyh> Odd_Bloke: ok, so did you remember the problem or do you prefer that I recap it?
[14:18] <EriC^^> slazer: try to disable secureboot if it's enabled
[14:19] <slazer> EriC^^: no such entry existst in BIOS, I have checked that many times..
[14:19] <slazer> EriC^^: by the way, Fedora 24 does EFI boot, Fedora 23 respin too, but Fedora 23 (vanilla, WS) had this problem
[14:19] <Odd_Bloke> rockyh: I'd appreciate it if you could restate it. :)
[14:20] <rockyh> ok :), so sorry in advance to the other users, because they may have already read it
[14:20] <EriC^^> slazer: ok, are you in ubuntu right now?
[14:20] <slazer> EriC^^: The EFI boot mode problem must have been fixed sinde Fedora 23 x64 WS has been released.
[14:20] <slazer> EriC^^: yes
[14:20] <EriC^^> slazer: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:20] <crised> how to install vmware ubuntu 15?
[14:21] <Lucky7> Good morning everyone
[14:21] <rockyh> give a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21877593/
[14:21] <slazer> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/tvth
[14:22] <rockyh> both w and uptime indicate that 5 users are connected, but both w and who show just 2 users
[14:22] <rockyh> these commands are run in Xubuntu 14.04
[14:22] <rockyh> so there is a mismatch between the "users" declared (that are 5) and the items in who and w, that are 2
[14:23] <EriC^^> slazer: try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:23] <rockyh> here, some hours ago, we were talking about "sessions" instead of users; as uptime recorded the number of *active sessions* instead of the number of *actual users*
[14:24] <rockyh> so, what can be the problem? And how to check the active sessions?
[14:24] <rockyh> up to here, it still seems a bug to me, or a bad implementation of uptime (and w)
[14:25] <Neomex> any idea wth is that? http://imgur.com/SJO40oR
[14:25] <slazer> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/oneg
[14:26] <rockyh> hope that now the problem is clear
[14:27] <slazer> EriC^^: (note: "zavádzací" means something like "bootable" or "boot flag" in English, so the FAT32 partition (/boot/efi) should be bootable)
[14:27] <Odd_Bloke> rockyh: What does `who --all` give you?
[14:27] <Guest13> Whats the best way to do automatic updates these days on production servers?
[14:27] <Lucky7> Can someone help me with LDAP SAMBA integration, I followed the https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-ldap.html guide but dont understand which servers to run the commands, MY LDAP and SAMBA servers are on diff boxes
[14:28] <Odd_Bloke> rockyh: I'm also curious as to what problem you're trying to solve here; these tools all have a lot of legacy, so there's almost certainly specific meaning encoded in the number.
[14:28] <EriC^^> slazer: try sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[14:30] <theoooooooo> Hey guys
[14:30] <theoooooooo> Why is there no more "system tray" in ubuntu>?
[14:30] <theoooooooo> I am using hexchat, and i notive its gone
[14:30] <EriC^^> theoooooooo: there is
[14:30] <theoooooooo> ok so how do i get it owrking
[14:30] <EriC^^> thought you meant the whole system tray
[14:30] <slazer> Is there any way to export (only) my conversation with EriC^^ guys? I would like to archive it...
[14:31] <EriC^^> clock and whatnot
[14:31] <theoooooooo> well to be honest
[14:31] <theoooooooo> only default apps are showing htere
[14:31] <ctjctj> rockyh, so historically w, who and uptime all work on the "wtmp".  This records every time a user "logs in" and "logs out".    So the w and who reports just look for a miss match of records.  If there is a login without a logout then that "user" is logged in.
[14:31] <theoooooooo> any new programs I run do not
[14:31] <EriC^^> slazer: grep -ri "eric\|slazer" ~/.xchat2
[14:31] <EriC^^> or whatever client you're using
[14:31] <slazer> EriC^^: web client...
[14:32] <theoooooooo> also, wtf is imagemagick? is this legit?
[14:32] <EriC^^> slazer: copy and paste it in a file then parse it with that command
[14:32] <slazer> EriC^^: ok
[14:32] <ctjctj> rockyh, in addition a reboot is logged to that file which sets all users to "logged out".  Opening a new terminal, while not technically logging in does make a wtmp record.
[14:33] <slazer> EriC^^: there have been two errors
[14:33] <hypermist> is there a arm .torrent file around ?
[14:34] <slazer> EriC^^: "efibootmgr: Could not set variable Boot0000: No such file or directory" and "efibootmgr: Could not prepare boot variable: No such file or directory"
[14:34] <Lucky7> anyone?
[14:34] <EriC^^> slazer: it looks like the uefi is a little screwed up
[14:35] <EriC^^> slazer: it said earlier the boot order was missing and it's resetting the firmware
[14:35] <slazer> EriC^^: may be from the resizing of /boot/efi?
[14:35] <EriC^^> "No BootOrder is set; firmware will attempt recovery"
[14:35] <EriC^^> no that's irrelevant
[14:35] <EriC^^> for all the bios knows efi partition doesn't exist, it's just a list in it's memory but it seems off
[14:35] <EriC^^> :/
[14:36] <EriC^^> can you downgrade the bios?
[14:36] <hypermist> sort of require a .torrent
[14:36] <EriC^^> or maybe reflash it?
[14:36] <hypermist> as http download fails
[14:36] <slazer> EriC^^: /boot partition is not separate..maybe its relevant
[14:36] <slazer> EriC^^: no way
[14:37] <slazer> EriC^^: HP says no way
[14:37] <EriC^^> slazer: nah, the uefi has in it's memory the efi entries, even if you delete the whole hdd it'll still have it there, pointing to those files (that don't exist anymore)
[14:37] <EriC^^> it seems it has a problem with the boot order, and setting variables in it
[14:38] <slazer> EriC^^: oh, by the way, there is a switch in bios to choose between "Legacy BOOT" and "UEFI boot (experimental)"
[14:38] <EriC^^> try sudo efibootmgr -v again
[14:38] <EriC^^> yeah, if you choose legacy you'll have to convert to legacy boot
[14:39] <slazer> EriC^^: it would probably work with legacy (it did with Fedora 23), but then..UEFI is the future
[14:39] <EriC^^> hp uefi is the future so far ahead it became the past
[14:39] <EriC^^> :D
[14:39] <EriC^^> on my hp, i hit a motherboard bug and uefi list disappeared, i had to convert to legacy
[14:40] <slazer> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/t8c8
[14:40] <EriC^^> it was working fine, then it did the bug, i read others has happened after 3 days of use, mine was like 3 years later
[14:40] <rockyh> Odd_Bloke: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/21897742/ (sorry for the delay)
[14:40] <EriC^^> slazer: try sudo efibootmgr -o 0004
[14:41] <hypermist> Anyone ?
[14:41] <Odd_Bloke> rockyh: So I guess I'm still curious as to what the problem you think you're seeing is. :)
[14:41] <slazer> EriC^^: "efibootmgr: Could not set BootOrder: No such file or directory"
[14:41] <EriC^^> slazer: try sudo modprobe efivars
[14:41] <k1l> hypermist: arm image for what device?
[14:42] <hypermist> k1l, pi
[14:42] <k1l> which one? you know, details matter
[14:42] <dars> hi
[14:42] <rockyh> my problem is that the number of users declared is not the actual number of users connected to the system
[14:42] <rockyh> in particular:
[14:43] <rockyh> a log in through /dev/tty1 has been made. Then a logout has been made. But that user is still counted in uptime, as if he were still there. But he is not!
[14:43] <slazer> EriC^^: it says to me "Use netcat.", its becoming cheeky!
[14:43] <EriC^^> slazer: lol
[14:43] <HammerJammmer> join #kali
[14:44] <ctjctj> rockyh, have you looked at the output of last to look at the counts?
[14:44] <hypermist> k1l, pi1.
[14:45] <hypermist> pi1b+ ?
[14:45] <hypermist> i think
[14:45] <EriC^^> slazer: any luck?
[14:45] <k1l> hypermist: there is non for the pi1 since that arm chip is too old
[14:45] <EriC^^> try sudo efibootmgr -o 0004
[14:45] <hypermist> p00p
[14:45] <rockyh> this is last: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21898354/
[14:45] <hypermist> alright well this wont work then
[14:45] <hypermist> hmph to a full desktop machine it is i guess XD
[14:46] <slazer> EriC^^: no output
[14:46] <molt> ls
[14:46] <slazer> EriC^^: I might as well give you the shell :D there is no sensitive information on my pc, its fresh install
[14:46] <joelio> hypermist: raspbian no good?
[14:46] <EriC^^> slazer: try sudo efibootmgr -v again has it set the boot order to 0004 ?
[14:46] <molt> hey people
[14:46] <rockyh> Odd_Bloke, ctjctj: if one or more logins with tty1, tty2 are made, and then the users log out, they should not be still counted in uptime, w or wherever. Instead they are! This is my problem.
[14:46] <hypermist> joelio, its not working with what i mtryign to do
[14:47] <hypermist> its throwing me npm errors. because packages wont work..
[14:47] <joelio> what npm errors?
[14:47] <joelio> that may be something specific to npm, not to ARM
[14:47] <rockyh> so, a log out from /dev/tty1 does not update utmp, but it is wrong IMHO
[14:47] <slazer> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/6bmj
[14:47] <hypermist> joelio, packages and stuff wont fetch
[14:47] <ctjctj> rockyh, I understand.  I've been checking a dozen different servers to see if I saw any issues.  And yes, I did.
[14:48] <joelio> hypermist: sure but which ones :) pastebin it or something I'll look if you want
[14:48] <EriC^^> slazer: try this sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[14:48] <hypermist> uhm.
[14:48] <EriC^^> slazer: sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/bootmgfw.efi
[14:48] <rockyh> ctjctj: oh, really?!
[14:48] <ducasse> rockyh: this is not a bug. the reason that the list is "complete" on 16.04 is that systemd keeps track of sessions and users in a different way, i'm guessing upstart is showing you there are 2 logged in users running a total of 5 shells.
[14:48] <EriC^^> then try going into the bios and try to load the defaults
[14:48] <EriC^^> slazer: ^ and see if it boots
[14:49] <joelio> hypermist: https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/4194/getting-npm-installed-on-raspberry-pi-wheezy-image
[14:49] <hypermist> http://pastebin.com/aKCBgepE joelio
[14:49] <hypermist> i have npm installed
[14:49] <hypermist> but it wont fetch packages and such
[14:50] <joelio> hypermist: yea, because it's an old version of nodejs
[14:50] <k1l> hypermist: check network. but we are out of the #ubuntu focus there
[14:50] <slazer> EriC^^: "/boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi" was already there, but I will re-cp
[14:50] <hypermist> networks fine k1l
[14:50] <rockyh> ducasse: we are back here after a brief discussion in #ubuntu-devel. You would be right if the users were different. But here there is just one name, rockyh, which opened the GUI and the shells, so the resulting users should be 1
[14:50] <rockyh> they are 2 instead
[14:50] <hypermist> i was just following what the wiki page for this program said
[14:50] <hypermist> xD
[14:50] <hypermist> joelio,
[14:51] <molt> i know this is Ubuntu, but I'm wondering if it is possible to play a sound when the trash is emptied in Linux Mint
[14:51] <ctjctj> rockyh, yes.  There seems to have been a change from 15.10 to 16.04 in tracking what a user is.  As ducasse has said.  If I ssh to a remote server I see a one for one correspondence in the output of w/who/last with actual logins.
[14:51] <slazer> EriC^^: "/boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/bootmgfw.efi" wasn't, it was inside the Boot dir inside the Microsoft dir
[14:51] <EriC^^> slazer: yeah, we're copying the grubx64.efi files over this time
[14:51] <joelio> hypermist: you're getting connection refused too, so perhaps network issue there *or* it's down to SSL versions being old on the raspbian and can't access https://registry..
[14:51] <EriC^^> slazer: you have a typo, it's /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[14:51] <rockyh> ducasse, ctjctj, Odd_Bloke: this is good in 16.04. I think it is an error to consider a user who logged out from a tty as still present in the system, just because some table or utmp file has not been update after the logout
[14:51] <EriC^^> slazer: my bad
[14:51] <ctjctj> When I log into the desk top I get exactly one log in regardless of the number of terminals I have open.  This seems to be a change.  I use to get one user per ptty. The results are still self consistant.
[14:52] <ducasse> rockyh: no, on the paste you showed me there was one console user (X, :0) and one ssh user. that's two.
[14:52] <ctjctj> rockyh, it sounds to me like you have a bad file, not anything else.
[14:52] <hypermist> joelio, maybe. but im connected via the same network and my pi2 is. maybe the isp modem im using is failing joelio ?, i guess if i really wanted to i can installed a 48 port network switch in my bedroom haha
[14:52] <Odd_Bloke> rockyh: I have to head out, but it sounds like other people are helping out now. :)
[14:52] <slazer> EriC^^: "sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi" executed
[14:52] <Cooler> akik, i installed ubuntu but i am not getting the option to select which os at boot
[14:52] <rockyh> Odd_Bloke: sure, don't worry and thank you
[14:53] <Odd_Bloke> rockyh: :)
[14:53] <Cooler> akik, can you post that link again?
[14:53] <rockyh> ctjctj: yes, but it is not an occasional error. It is systematic
[14:53] <slazer> EriC^^: "sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi" executed
[14:53] <slazer> EriC^^: rebooting, right?
[14:53] <Cooler> nvm found it
[14:53] <EriC^^> slazer: ok
[14:53] <hypermist> yea my network must be dropping packets joelio
[14:54] <hilx> molt, this might help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/335964/empty-trash-sound-event
[14:54] <joelio> hypermist: can you ping google from it.. 1st step
[14:54] <EriC^^> slazer: yeah, set the bios to load defaults, and see if you can set an admin password and that might let you disable secureboot
[14:54] <hypermist> joelio, yea i can.
[14:54] <hypermist> lemme swap some network equipment :)
[14:55] <Cooler> akik, http://p-s.co.nz/wordpress/dual-boot-ubuntu-16-04-on-win-10-acer-aspire-e15/
[14:55] <slazer> EriC^^: Is it necessary? I spent like hald an hour fine-tuning the bios..never mind, Ill do that if required. Admin password? Like the password to enter the bios?
[14:55] <rockyh> ducasse: ok, this is a criterion. Anyway, I hope you understood the problem with my system: a tty user is considered there even when he leaved (with a log out)
[14:55] <Cooler> i can't do the Add Ubuntu efi files and change boot order so Ubuntu grub efi comes first
[14:55] <Cooler> step
[14:55] <EriC^^> slazer: yeah, sometimes when you set that you get options to disable secure boot
[14:56] <ducasse> rockyh: is that a logout from ssh, for instance, or the closing of a shell?
[14:56] <slazer> EriC^^: there were some stupid "security features" that tried to hide some settings to non-admin..I have set all to "visible" and "modifiable"
[14:57] <EriC^^> slazer: ok, look for secureboot
[14:57] <EriC^^> or "trust efi"
[14:57] <EriC^^> preferably disable secureboot
[14:57] <slazer> EriC^^: I might be buying a new laptop soon, as well..from some reasonable vendor. What do you recommend?
[14:58] <EriC^^> slazer: personally i like hp
[14:58] <EriC^^> :D
[14:58] <slazer> EriC^^: yep, thats unfortunate..me too :D
[14:58] <rockyh> ducasse: no, it is the local (purely textual) terminal, tty1. It is accessible by Ctrl+Alt+F1: I logged in there, then I logged out. But in uptime and w the user is still counted (and not listed in w and who)
[14:58] <EriC^^> how old is the hp you have?
[14:58] <Cooler> akik, ?
[14:58] <TomyWork> hi
[14:59] <Cooler> i am trying to set In the BIOS, Security > Select an UEFI file as trusted for executing
[14:59] <slazer> EriC^^: bought in 2012
[14:59] <ducasse> rockyh: so the number keeps climbing if you log in and out repeatedly?
[14:59] <EriC^^> slazer: i see
[14:59] <Cooler>  Approve all ubuntu efi files. HDD0 > > > all the .efi files.
[14:59] <Cooler> there are some that are named .efi.mui
[14:59] <slazer> EriC^^: is that..you know..old?
[14:59] <TomyWork> i just updated a 3rd party package and it added a new file which overwrote a file i already had in place. is there any way to recover that file?
[14:59] <rockyh> ducasse: no, the number keeps climbing if I log in and out from other tty (like tty2, tty3, tty4 ...)
[14:59] <EriC^^> slazer: nah
[14:59] <slazer> EriC^^: ok, rebooting, brb
[15:00] <EriC^^> slazer: i bought mine in 2013, now the hdd is almost dead, battery died etc. also seeing which to buy
[15:00] <Cooler> do i need to enable those too?
[15:00] <k1l> TomyWork: what file? but i guess not
[15:00] <TomyWork> k1l a file that is not marked as config
[15:01] <rockyh> ducasse: every time I log in and log out through a new tty (not pts, not GUI, but tty), number of users get incremented and never decremented at the logout, till system reboot obviously
[15:02] <ducasse> rockyh: i don't have a trusty system on hand to test, but that could be a bad interaction between the getty and upstart.
[15:02] <slazer> EriC^^: Improbable! It has worked!
[15:02] <EriC^^> slazer: great! :D
[15:02] <rockyh> ctjctj: I agree, I have maybe a bad file. Anyway, the way this file is updated is buggy
[15:02] <slazer> EriC^^: so the issue has been the SecureBoot?
[15:02] <rockyh> ducasse: yes, it could
[15:03] <ducasse> rockyh: you can file a bug, to see what the devs say.
[15:03] <EriC^^> slazer: maybe
[15:03] <rockyh> and even if the system is "old" I think it should be reported
[15:03] <EriC^^> slazer: that would make sense since it said the upgrade adds secureboot stuff, who knows
[15:03] <slazer> EriC^^: Is there some way I can investigate? Some tutorial?
[15:03] <rockyh> ducasse: sorry, what do you mean with "file a bug"?
[15:03] <ducasse> rockyh: open a bug report.
[15:04] <EriC^^> slazer: try enabling secureboot again, and switching the files to shimx64.efi
[15:04] <bug_sniper> could someone help me with setting up an ssh server? When I try to connect to it by ip address, putty says "Connection Refused"
[15:04] <EriC^^> if it doesn't like it then it's the secureboot
[15:04] <slazer> EriC^^: I have not disabled secureboot..there is no such option in bios afaik
[15:04] <EriC^^> slazer: maybe it just didn't like the shimx64.efi files
[15:04] <bug_sniper> but I can connect to this computer locally by connecting to the computer name
[15:04] <EriC^^> did you reset the bios defaults?
[15:05] <slazer> EriC^^: I did not..I just rebooted.
[15:05] <rockyh> ducasse: ok; I've never done it before. Is there a guide?
[15:05] <EriC^^> slazer: ok, then i guess it didn't like the files, or if you changed any other settings
[15:05] <rockyh> something like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs ?
[15:06] <ducasse> rockyh: you just run 'ubuntu-bug package' where package is the package you want to file it against. it will gather some info and open a browser page for you.
[15:07] <rockyh> ducasse: ok, it sounds easy. But I don't know what package to select
[15:07] <rockyh> the package to which w, who and uptime belong
[15:07] <k1l> bug_sniper: what command do you use? make sure to use "ssh user@ip". if you dont set the user it will use the username you actually use. and rootlogin is closed
[15:08] <k1l> TomyWork: i doubt you can get that file back.
[15:08] <bug_sniper> k1l I'm using putty on windows to connect
[15:08] <bug_sniper> and the username is my own username
[15:08] <ducasse> rockyh: no, they report the data they're given, it's likely the getty that doesn't update utmp/wtmp properly. so i'd guess util-linux
[15:08] <bug_sniper> the account I set up while installing ubuntu
[15:09] <k1l> bug_sniper: is this in the same local network?
[15:09] <rockyh> ducasse: yes, you're right, maybe it is getty. Ok!
[15:09] <bug_sniper> k1l yes, it is
[15:10] <k1l> bug_sniper: you use that local ip?
[15:10] <bug_sniper> k1l yes
[15:11] <ducasse> rockyh: it doesn't really matter, if it is a bug the devs will refile against the right package if necessary. just get it in the right ballpark :)
[15:11] <uddane> need to install Flash on 16.04 - amd - help please
[15:11] <rockyh> ducasse: ahahahah ok!! :)
[15:12] <k1l> bug_sniper: is "openssh-server" installed on that ubuntu machine you want to connect to?
[15:12] <bug_sniper> k1l, yes
[15:13] <BluesKaj> uddane, for your browser?
[15:13] <slazer> EriC^^: Hi, I've lost the connection. So again, what might have been the issue?
[15:13] <uddane> BluesKaj: yes
[15:13] <ducasse> rockyh: just explain clearly in the report that this only happens for tty login/logouts.
[15:13] <EriC^^> slazer: the uefi didn't like the shimx64.efi file
[15:13] <paul0897> hello all
[15:14] <BluesKaj> uddane, which browser?
[15:14] <ducasse> rockyh: and make sure you are fully updated first.
[15:14] <uddane> BluesKaj: would prefer Chrome, but will go with firefox if needed
[15:14] <Cooler> somebody help
[15:14] <slazer> EriC^^: so the command "efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 1 -d /dev/sda" fixed that?
[15:14] <EriC^^> Cooler: with what?
[15:15] <dars> is it okay to use pip under sudo ?
[15:15] <Cooler> i am not getting the option to select ubuntu at boot
[15:15] <EriC^^> slazer: no, copying grubx64.efi over the default efi file paths worked
[15:15] <k1l> bug_sniper: is there a ip conflict maybe?
[15:15] <ducasse> uddane: chrome has flash built-in.
[15:15] <hypermist> and its installed =D
[15:15] <TomyWork> k1l at least i found out that no one bothered to put this machine on the backup list :D
[15:15] <rockyh> ducasse: I guess I am, I've installed all the updates automatically appeared at boot
[15:15] <bug_sniper> k1l it's possible since there are several computers that use the same router
[15:15] <uddane> ducasse: won't play HBOGO...
[15:15] <EriC^^> slazer: the mkdir and cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/..... commands
[15:15] <slazer> EriC^^: Do you mean "cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi" or "cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi" or both?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> uddane, FF should work with flash by default
[15:16] <bug_sniper> k1l, is it possible to still have a way to connect to the linux machine by ssh?
[15:16] <EriC^^> slazer: both, they're the default paths for efi
[15:16] <k1l> bug_sniper: i would make sure the router gives that machine a static ip adress
[15:16] <ducasse> rockyh: ok, they will probably reject the report if you're not up to date, that's why i mentioned it.
[15:16] <k1l> bug_sniper: to me it sounds like a network issue, not like a OS issue.
[15:16] <BluesKaj> uddane, if not install flashplugin-installer
[15:16] <bug_sniper> k1l, is that done through ip forwarding?
[15:16] <slazer> EriC^^: okay, thanks than, I might write about that on Bugzilla or sth like that
[15:17] <k1l> bug_sniper: no, its in the dhcp settings of the router
[15:17] <EriC^^> slazer: ok, cool, no problem
[15:17] <uddane> BluesKaj: can you please give me the command line for that install?
[15:17] <Cooler> anyone?
[15:17] <Cooler> i am not getting the option to select ubuntu at boot, even thought its installed
[15:17] <EriC^^> Cooler: did you install ubuntu
[15:17] <Cooler> yes
[15:17] <BluesKaj> uddane, sudo apt install flashplugin-installer
[15:18] <EriC^^> Cooler: go to the bios and see if you can "trust" the ubuntu entry
[15:18] <Cooler> how
[15:18] <EriC^^> Cooler: go to boot options and see if you have a "trust" menu
[15:18] <bug_sniper> ok, I'll try to look into that
[15:18] <BluesKaj> !apt | uddane
[15:18] <uddane> BluesKaj: it's doing something
[15:18] <bug_sniper> thanks
[15:19] <Aziz_> hi
[15:19] <uddane> BluesKaj: restarting browser
[15:19] <Cooler> EriC^^, there is a option called select an uefi file as trusted for executing
[15:20] <EriC^^> Cooler: bingo
[15:20] <mekhami> this question is not necessarily ubuntu specific but i need some help. ihave an ubuntu 14.04 server running an ftp server. i inherited it, and i have no idea where i might find the .htaccess file so i can change some settings
[15:20] <uddane> BluesKaj: ok, at the risk of sounding like an idiot... how do I enable it in FF
[15:21] <rodney77> hello, I just upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04 and apt keeps hanging when i add repos, update or upgrade
[15:21] <rodney77> i installed synaptic and it hangs too
[15:21] <BluesKaj> uddane, relogin
[15:21] <rodney77> i can't figure out what's getting it stuck. It'll often say 'Working [0%]
[15:21] <rodney77> and stay that way for about half a minute
[15:22] <sepia_> yahoo
[15:22] <ducasse> mekhami: .htaccess is for http servers afaik...
[15:22] <Cooler> EriC^^, i tried trusting all 4 files as sasid here
[15:22] <Cooler> said*
[15:22] <EriC^^> yeah .htaccess is an apache thing i think
[15:22] <Cooler> http://p-s.co.nz/wordpress/dual-boot-ubuntu-16-04-on-win-10-acer-aspire-e15/
[15:23] <EriC^^> also ftp is very insecure mekhami
[15:23] <rockyh> ducasse: you gave a precious advice!
[15:23] <Cooler> EriC^^, the Add Ubuntu efi files and change boot order so Ubuntu grub efi comes first step
[15:23] <EriC^^> Cooler: ok
[15:23] <EriC^^> try restarting
[15:23] <ducasse> rockyh: well, thanks, but i'm not sure what :)
[15:23] <Cooler> but i don't get the option to change the boot priority for grub
[15:23] <EriC^^> Cooler: f5 f6 maybe?
[15:24] <Cooler> EriC^^, grubx64 doesn't show up in boot priority
[15:24] <EriC^^> Cooler: try using a one time boot option to boot ubuntu and maybe you can change it from there using efibootmgr
[15:24] <horse> hi ubuntu gurus.  can anyone reccomend a VNC server that i can use with ubuntu desktop?
[15:25] <debug0x1> horse: if you need something that works on multiple OSs i would recommend teamviewer.
[15:25] <horse> i just tried "tightvnc" but it seems to want to use it's own desktop environment
[15:25] <debug0x1> Just 2fa it.
[15:25] <debug0x1> strong password, and white list.
[15:25] <Cooler> EriC^^, try using what?
[15:25] <EriC^^> Cooler: try the one time boot option
[15:25] <uddane> BluesKaj: still the same prompt to install flashplayer when trying to watch a movie on hbogo
[15:25] <ducasse> horse: you can't use vnc with unity, afaik, you need something without 3d accel.
[15:26] <EriC^^> Cooler: when it boots try esc and choose boot options or something to that effect
[15:26] <EriC^^> it's f9 in hp's f12 in lenovo
[15:26] <horse> ducasse really?
[15:26] <ducasse> horse: think so, yes.
[15:26] <horse> ducasse: that explains alot
[15:26] <Cooler> EriC^^, you mean the f12 boot menu?
[15:26] <EriC^^> Cooler: yeah
[15:26] <horse> i couldnt find any instructions for any VNC server for use with unity
[15:27] <ducasse> horse: try lxde, or xfce without compositor.
[15:27] <horse> i quite like the luck of unity so wanted to try it out
[15:27] <horse> i'm a bit disspaointed you cant remote into it
[15:27] <horse> luck = look
[15:28] <mekhami> EriC^^: wat lol
[15:28] <mekhami> ftp is as insecure sa you configure it to be
[15:28] <Cooler> EriC^^, the options that show up in the boot priority order are EFI File Boot 0: y
[15:28] <EriC^^> mekhami: sftop
[15:28] <EriC^^> *sftp
[15:28] <ducasse> mekhami: no, ftp is insecure period.
[15:29] <k1l> mekhami: ftp is like sending private text with a postcard.
[15:29] <lesshaste> how can I turn off swap permanently? I thought you had to edit /etc/fstab but mine has only one uncommented line which is UUID=80919e96-e83b-4c88-b30e-8673e1faa3b4 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[15:29] <EriC^^> Cooler: can you browse for the efi file?
[15:29] <EriC^^> lesshaste: maybe you don't have swap on?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> uddane, some sites aren't linux flash friendly , try a different site with videos
[15:30] <EriC^^> lesshaste: try "swapon -s"
[15:30] <lesshaste> EriC^^, I do because I keep on having to do a hard reboot when I run out of RAM!
[15:30] <teward> lesshaste: check the output of `swapon -s` to see what swap files/partitions you have
[15:30] <lesshaste> EriC^^, thanks.. I will have to do that after a reboot as I did sudo swapoff -a just now
[15:30] <EriC^^> lesshaste: that would suggest you dont have swap
[15:30] <uddane> BluesKaj: poop.... other sites seem to work like youtube
[15:30] <lesshaste> EriC^^,  or really?
[15:30] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:31] <lesshaste> EriC^^,  why does the cursor stop moving and is the computer unusable when I run of RAM?
[15:31] <lesshaste> EriC^^, I am running python code that uses it all up sadly
[15:31] <EriC^^> cause you dont have swap
[15:31] <lesshaste> EriC^^, shouldn't the OOM killer kick in?
[15:31] <EriC^^> why do you think that suggests you have swap?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> youtube normally uses HTML5 , but some legacy videos still use flash
[15:31] <lesshaste> EriC^^,  the thrashing which makes the computer unusable
[15:32] <BluesKaj> uddane,^
[15:32] <Bomber4Chats> how do I find out which port or /dev/tty|usb file my usb device is connected to?
[15:32] <Bomber4Chats> I'm getting the following:
[15:32] <ducasse> lesshaste: 'free -m' will show you if you have swap.
[15:32] <lesshaste> ducasse, thanks
[15:32] <uddane> BluesKaj: yeah, I saw  :-(
[15:32] <Bomber4Chats> hid-generic 0003:03EB:2402.0012: hiddev0,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Device [Something Something GmbH] on usb-0000:00:14.0-1/input0
[15:32] <horse> i''m quite surprised that you can't RDP into a unity desktop.  seems a bit...odd
[15:32] <BluesKaj> Bomber4Chats, lsusb
[15:33] <k1l> lesshaste: if you have no swap and run out of ram than your system will be quite unusable too with the oomkiller since it will try to make a list of processes using ram and then calculate what to kill. while he has no ram or cpu time to do that quick
[15:33] <Bomber4Chats> BluesKaj: OK, what detail from there do I need in order to telnet to the usb?
[15:33] <Bomber4Chats> device*
[15:33] <lesshaste> k1l, ok.. so really I would like the process using 6GB to be killed
[15:33] <slazer> I just wanted to confirm, installing 16.04.1 with ZFS root is this hard |---> https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-16.04-Root-on-ZFS <---| and there is no easier way using the default installer (with GParted)
[15:33] <lesshaste> I feel  a user shouldn't be able to bring the system down so easily
[15:34] <ducasse> lesshaste: set process limits.
[15:34] <lesshaste> how do properly run systems stop users just bringing the whole thing down by using too much RAM?
[15:34] <lesshaste> ducasse, ok.. where do I do that?
[15:34] <slazer> I am considering ZFS over ext4 for performance...but I can't figure out if its worth the fuss (difficult configuration)
[15:35] <lesshaste> slazer, what are you using the system for?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> Bomber4Chats, dunno anything about telnet except it's insecure
[15:35] <lesshaste> ext4 perforance isn't bad
[15:35] <slazer> lesshaste: its an office PC for my mom
[15:35] <lesshaste> and it's very relianble
[15:35] <Bomber4Chats> BluesKaj: very important indeed
[15:35] <lesshaste> slazer, don't bother!!
[15:35] <slazer> lesshaste: but it has HDD, not SSD
[15:35] <ducasse> lesshaste: 'help ulimit' for bash
[15:35] <lesshaste> slazer, mum's need reliability above all :)
[15:35] <Bomber4Chats> Anyone else know how to telnet to a usb device which I am not sure what address it is on?
[15:35] <lesshaste> slazer, it makes no difference :)
[15:36] <ducasse> slazer: zfs is super nice, but it's only for data storage, not the root fs.
[15:36] <slazer> lesshaste: I am used to SSD and I can feel the difference, mainly the boot time, but also some application's loading times
[15:36] <lesshaste> slazer, right but can she?
[15:36] <sipior> slazer: you can always grab a small ssd or sata dom for root, and then run zfs on the other, main disk(s)
[15:36] <lesshaste> slazer, how many times a day does she boot or load an application?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> Bomber4Chats, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/telnet-to-usb-device-on-interface-usb0-and-find-ip-of-device-762244/
[15:37] <slazer> lesshaste: not really..but I want to setup everything for a year, not to be forced to maintain anything
[15:37] <lesshaste> slazer, exactly.. ext4 is easy and will work
[15:37] <lesshaste> no maintenancy
[15:37] <slazer> lesshaste: meaning..do the hard work now, rest later
[15:37] <lesshaste> slazer, right... the hard work is not to do anything fancy :)
[15:37] <Bomber4Chats> BluesKaj: ifconfig? didn't work :S
[15:38] <lesshaste> slazer, your main challenge is setting it up so you can fix it remotely
[15:38] <Bomber4Chats> I'm reading that I should be doing this:
[15:38] <Bomber4Chats> sudo modprobe usbserial vendor=0x067b product=0x2303
[15:38] <BluesKaj> ip addr Bomber4Chats ?
[15:38] <Bomber4Chats> why ip addr?
[15:38] <Bomber4Chats> localhost?
[15:38] <slazer> lesshaste: well, maybe I set up hibernation and let her used that instead of shutdown
[15:39] <BluesKaj> it replace ifconfig
[15:39] <BluesKaj> replaced
[15:39] <lesshaste> slazer, ok
[15:39] <slazer> sipior: its notebook, only one drive
[15:40] <slazer> lesshaste: hmm, thats good idea, VNC
[15:40] <ducasse> slazer: there's no reason to use zfs on such a machine, rather the opposite. i love zfs, but this is not what it's intended for.
[15:40] <slazer> okay than, I dith ZFS
[15:40] <slazer> how about btrfs?
[15:40] <slazer> *ditch
[15:40] <ducasse> slazer: _no_
[15:40] <slazer> but ext4 is so boooring :(
[15:41] <lesshaste> slazer, right.. trying to understand what is wrong over the phone is painful
[15:41] <ducasse> slazer: btrfs is not ready for primetime, ext4 is much more reliable yet.
[15:41] <lesshaste> slazer, focus on what will save you hours of pain :)
[15:41] <Bomber4Chats> anyone else?
[15:41] <ducasse> slazer: ext4 works, that's what's important.
[15:41] <slazer> okay then, I', convinced
[15:41] <slazer> to LVM, or not to LVM?
[15:41] <rypervenche> Bomber4Chats: ifconfig is deprecated.
[15:42] <ducasse> slazer: on a single disk? how big?
[15:42] <Bomber4Chats> rypervenche: good, how do I connect to a usb device that I don't know it's address?
[15:42] <slazer> 750GB
[15:42] <mrrobot_> hola
[15:42] <Bomber4Chats> dmesg is showing a weird address
[15:42] <mrrobot_> hello
[15:42] <slazer> ducasse: 75GB
[15:42] <slazer> ducasse: 750 GB
[15:42] <Padelas> hi
[15:42] <rypervenche> Bomber4Chats: What do you mean connect to a USB device? Oh, an external device? Type: dmesg
[15:42] <rypervenche> Bomber4Chats: It should show sdX where X is a letter
[15:43] <ducasse> slazer: i don't think i would bother, one more thing that can go wrong. just set up sane partition sizes, or use only one main partition.
[15:43] <uddane> BluesKaj: HBO needs to fix it's sh!t... all my other channels work just fine
[15:43] <madsj> I'm trying to install VirtualBox from https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads but I'm getting an error with vboxdrv
[15:43] <Aziz_> hi
[15:44] <Bomber4Chats> rypervenche: http://pastebin.com/zcSTyFuH
[15:44] <Bomber4Chats> no sdX
[15:44] <hmca> greetings!
[15:44] <ducasse> slazer: i'm just thinking if i were to set up a machine for my mother, i would go the "minimum surprises" route.
[15:45] <BluesKaj> uddane, try chrome-browser, not chromium
[15:45] <hmca> is there a way to read a dvd from the filesystem, as in, an unencrypted dv copied to the filesystem
[15:45] <Padelas> slazer noob
[15:46] <Bomber4Chats> OK, my device doesn't seem to have a driver
[15:46] <Bomber4Chats> but I know I can telnet to it
[15:46] <Bomber4Chats> I've done it on Windows
[15:46] <Bomber4Chats> but for some reason I fail to do so in Linux
[15:47] <slazer> ducasse, Padelas: well, btrfs (ZFS) or LVM gives me the snapshots things, might be usefull
[15:47] <rypervenche> Bomber4Chats: Yeah, seems to need some sort of driver on it.
[15:48] <Bomber4Chats> but can't I still connect to it?
[15:48] <ducasse> slazer: is she going to use that?
[15:48] <slazer> ducasse, Padelas: I might, when solving problems.
[15:48] <rypervenche> slazer: I would always LVM, personally.
[15:48] <ducasse> slazer: ok, if you want lvm then use it, it's pretty mature imo.
[15:48] <rockyh> ducasse: your precious advice was about checking if the system is up-to-date. By a better check, it wasn't :)
[15:48] <sipior> www
[15:49] <ducasse> rockyh: good you caught that before filing a bug :)
[15:49] <Padelas> ok. it's easy though. stay cool
[15:49] <rockyh> yes :)!
[15:51] <ducasse> rockyh: make sure to check again for the same behavior after updating and a reboot. it's probably the same, but...
[15:52] <merpnderp> System76 is coming out with a new laptop, and I'm finally going to switch to Ubuntu for my main laptop. But I'm coming from OSX and the only lock-in I have is Photos. I take a lot of the iOS motion photos and don't know how Ubuntu will handle those. Anyone know of a good strategy for migration?
[15:55] <Bomber4Chats> anyone know how can I connect to my usb device with telnet / putty?
[15:55] <Azendale> I just upgraded a server from Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04. The root user's PATH variable seems to be messed up now. It currently is "/usr/bin:/bin:/snap/bin". Where should I start looking to find the root of this problem?
[15:56] <ducasse> Bomber4Chats: a /dev/ttyusbs* serial device thingy?
[15:56] <uddane> BluesKaj: I will in a few, have a meeting for work first...
[15:56] <HipsterHacker> you should never have to do that
[15:57] <Bomber4Chats> ducasse: I don't know
[15:57] <Bomber4Chats> I can't find if it has one
[15:58] <ducasse> Bomber4Chats: if you have no serial device, you can't connect. are you sure there is a driver?
[15:58] <Bomber4Chats> No, I don't think there is
[15:58] <Bomber4Chats> How do I see my serial devices?
[15:59] <slazer> hmm, if I am to use the LVM, I might as well switch to ZFS altogether, coz LVM sux apparently (http://serverfault.com/questions/279571/lvm-dangers-and-caveats). It reduces to RAW vs ZFS, then. So again, is ZFS really this difficult to configure? (https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-16.04-Root-on-ZFS) Because ZFS has its ups... (http://louwrentius.com/should-i-use-zfs-for-my-home-nas.html)