[00:00] <Devo-Kun> skorv: connect to the CUPS admin webpage
[00:01] <AdamDV> Ah. No I am not able to run the examples. I get the error that the function does not exist, as before
[00:08] <Devo-Kun> Interesting. You have the same GD version as I do. When I run the example on the PHP.net website (http://www.php.net/imageantialias) I get the same error.
[00:45] <AdamDV> What software do the Ubuntu repos use for management? apt-mirror?
[00:48] <StrangeCharm> i'm having some trouble using ssh-agent. when i pidof ssh-agent, it seems to be running, but ssh-add -l claims not to be able to connect to the agent
[01:08] <twb> StrangeCharm: that's because you're using screen
[01:14] <StrangeCharm> twb, interesting. can you tell me more?
[01:18] <twb> Sorry, I'm busy just now
[01:18] <twb> http://code.haskell.org/~twb/Preferences/.bin/twb-agents
[01:18] <twb> Hmm, not much documentation there
[01:19] <twb> http://code.haskell.org/~twb/Preferences/.bin/.bash_profile shows how I create it
[01:19] <StrangeCharm> twb, bottom line: i shouldn't have trouble if i just start a non-screen session?
[01:20] <StrangeCharm> also, your bash profile is a 4040
[01:21] <twb> Sorry,
[01:21] <twb> http://code.haskell.org/~twb/Preferences/..bash_profile shows how I create it
[01:21] <twb> ARGH
[01:21] <twb> http://code.haskell.org/~twb/Preferences/.bash_profile
[01:21] <twb> re short answer -- yes
[01:21] <twb> The problem is that your screen session outlives your agent session, so screen still points to the one that existed LAST time you logged in
[01:22] <twb> You need to either update environment variables (nontrivial), or start ssh-agent by hand
[01:22] <twb> The gentoo keychain docs might explain more
[01:26] <StrangeCharm> so your bash-profile has a trick in it for keeping screen pointed at the right agent?
[01:32] <ignarps> http://superuser.com/questions/141044/sharing-the-same-ssh-agent-among-multiple-login-sessions
[03:09] <kieppie> hi guys. I'm trying to help someone with a windows network, who's experiencing periodic lock-up. they might be working, or simply open large files over the local LAN & their system would simply lock up (they describe it as "going off to la-la-land"). I've rebuild their Ubuntu server, running *only* SSH, Samba & Webmin, and *nothing* else. load it pretty good, so now I'm trying to find other possible causes or remedies (I've set
[03:57] <Chrystopher> hi guys
[03:57] <Chrystopher> anybody here ?
[04:09] <thesheff17> I'm here...you have a question?
[04:10] <Chrystopher> yes hi
[04:10] <Chrystopher> i am having issues installing ubuntu server 10.10
[04:10] <Chrystopher> am I in the right channel ?
[04:11] <thesheff17> yes
[04:11] <Chrystopher> ok
[04:11] <Chrystopher> i have downloaded the latest iso file from the official site itself
[04:11] <Chrystopher> made a bootable usb key out of it
[04:11] <Chrystopher> booted comp on it
[04:11] <Chrystopher> followed steps normally
[04:11] <Chrystopher> and then at some phase, the "Select and isntall software" phase
[04:11] <Chrystopher> instlaler just hangs at 5%
[04:12] <Chrystopher> for no apparent reason
[04:12] <Chrystopher> tried to reboot and instlal in expert mode changing a couple of settings but nothing will do
[04:13] <thesheff17> Chrystopher: There is a log file during the install that may tell you more about what is going on.
[04:13] <thesheff17> Chrystopher: I would also try ubuntu 10.04 since it is a long term support unless  you need something specific on 10.10
[04:14] <Chrystopher> i actually don't really
[04:14] <Chrystopher> I'll try with the older version
[04:14] <Chrystopher> it's much more stable or ?
[04:14] <thesheff17> Chrystopher: 10.10 is only support for 6 months...yes 10.04 server is supported for 5 years.
[04:15] <Chrystopher> ok will try and let you know
[04:15] <thesheff17> 10.10 just has newer software
[04:16] <Chrystopher> but 10.04 still has the same basic packages ?
[04:16] <thesheff17> yea for sure
[04:17] <Chrystopher> ok I guess I could be good with that
[04:17] <thesheff17> I actually still run a ton of 8.04 and it works fine for me.
[04:17] <Chrystopher> oh one thing though
[04:17] <Chrystopher> Which software would you recommend to create bootable device ?
[04:18] <Chrystopher> i've been using the one proposed by ubuntu
[04:18] <Chrystopher> but i've heard unet bootin is good as well
[04:18] <thesheff17> usb-creator-gtk ?
[04:18] <thesheff17> I have used that a bunch.
[04:18] <Chrystopher> oh ok
[04:18] <Chrystopher> problem is i must do it on a windows machine though
[04:21] <thesheff17> ah I admit I haven't done it much on windows but if you are getting to the installer you are doing it correctly.
[04:26] <kieppie> hi guys. I have a few disks I'm about to scratch. should I continue using ext4, or should I risk btrfs?
[04:31] <thesheff17> Chrystopher: sorry I was having tons of problems with my wireless...the last thing I typed was usb-creator-gtk
[04:32] <Chrystopher> hm nope
[04:32] <Chrystopher> the last thing you typed
[04:32] <Chrystopher> concerned your lack of experience with windows
[04:32] <Chrystopher> lack is a bit strong but.. anyway you get me
[04:33] <Chrystopher> still donwloading
[04:36] <thesheff17> yea if you are getting to the installer it sounds like the install is going fine....try the 10.04 version and see what happens...if it hangs again I would start checking logs.
[06:03] <Chrystopher> formatting live
[06:07] <Chrystopher> theshedd17: are you still here ?
[06:07] <Chrystopher> ff*
[06:08] <thesheff17> yea
[06:09] <thesheff17> if you type the username correctly I will be notified :)
[06:09] <thesheff17> because I'm usually have a bunch of stuff going on.
[06:10] <Chrystopher> np
[06:10] <thesheff17> Did 10.04 work?
[06:10] <Chrystopher> it's weird there's either a problem with the software creating the usb key or the distro itself
[06:10] <Chrystopher> I've loaded the key
[06:11] <Chrystopher> now the only thing displaying is: "SYSLINUX 3.06 2010-04-01 EBIOS Copyright [...] "
[06:11] <Chrystopher> and command prompt
[06:11] <Chrystopher> but I can't type crap
[06:11] <Chrystopher> and nothing's going on
[06:11] <Chrystopher> lol
[06:12] <thesheff17> hmm..when it is booting?
[06:13] <Chrystopher> yeah
[06:13] <Chrystopher> well i manually select usb key to boot it from
[06:13] <Chrystopher> and there it is..
[06:13] <Chrystopher> i will try with an alternative software
[06:14] <gobbe> Chrystopher: how did you do the stick?
[06:14] <Chrystopher> on windows with universal-usb-installer-<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:14] <thesheff17> Chrystopher: I load up ubuntu desktop version X and use usb-creator-gtk :-/
[06:15] <Chrystopher> should i try to format it to make sure ?
[06:15] <gobbe> Chrystopher: did you select ubuntu from list or other linux?
[06:15] <thesheff17> Chrystopher: can you link me to the web site you are using for windows I will take a look..
[06:15] <thesheff17> Chrystopher: yea the usb-creator-gtk you select the iso and the usb drive and click create. :-/
[06:16] <Chrystopher> i followed the link to download the software form this page : http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download
[06:16] <Chrystopher> it leads to this page: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[06:17] <gobbe> Chrystopher: if you didnt select ubuntu from dropdown but other linux it wont work
[06:18] <Chrystopher> i will format and start again just to make sure
[06:18] <Chrystopher> distro i choose is
[06:18] <Chrystopher> Ubuntu Server 10.04.1 32bit installer
[06:20] <gobbe> i mean from dropdown of installerä
[06:20] <gobbe> i have noticed that if you dont select it from dropdown but select other linux it wont boot, just syslinux appears
[11:37] <lambda_x> anybody here uses libvirt with kvm? I got problems with virsh restore - 50% of change it will succed, 50% it will hang (it is logged as causing INFO: task kvm:6431 blocked for more than 120 seconds)
[11:37] <lambda_x> is this problem normal that there is no safe way to restore saved vm?
[13:45] <[diablo]> afternoon all... anyone running Ubuntu Server with rsyslog being used for centralized logging please?
[13:45] <gobbe> me
[13:46] <[diablo]> hi gobbe
[13:46] <[diablo]> gobbe, did you go with RELP, TCP or UDP, etc please?
[13:46] <gobbe> with syslog?
[13:47] <[diablo]> yep
[13:47] <[diablo]> well, rsyslog
[13:48] <gobbe> http://www.google.fi/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntu.com%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2FCentralLogging-v4-20090901-03.pdf&rct=j&q=ubuntu%20rsyslog&ei=gOs2TbyeGcqfOpvI4JgE&usg=AFQjCNEL3sc8W3FDTyyFUyG4alXFQP8o2w
[13:48] <gobbe> uuh
[13:48] <gobbe> sorry
[13:48] <gobbe> but however, that's pdf for rsyslog, quite good howto
[13:48] <gobbe> i'm doing with
[13:48] <gobbe> TCP
[13:49] <[diablo]> yeah I am looking at that atm
[13:49] <gobbe> RELP would be good also
[13:49] <[diablo]> yep
[13:49] <[diablo]> thats what interests me atm
[13:49] <[diablo]> RELP
[13:58] <doko_> SpamapS: did you test the eglibc/upstart fix for maverick and lucid too?
[14:01] <Fidelix> Hello guys. For a big files download server, what's the most important part for being able to handle big traffic? CPU? RAM?
[14:02] <EvilPhoenix> Fidelix:  extremely high bandwidth limits, CPU, RAM, hard disk space, etc.
[14:03] <Fidelix> EvilPhoenix, but what does the webserver (nginx) use the most? CPU or RAM?
[14:03] <Fidelix> I've got space and I've got bandwidth. I'm concerned about the speed though
[14:05] <Fidelix> And being able to support all requests
[14:06] <gobbe> fast disks is also quite important
[14:06] <gobbe> so if you have lots of downloads disk-io is critical also
[14:06] <Fidelix> gobbe, good point...
[14:07] <Fidelix> But what I'm really concerned is if CPU is critical for this. I've got a relatively cheap server, and all its specs are good, except for the CPU.
[14:09] <gobbe> i would say that cpu isn't so critical
[14:14] <andreasf> Fidelix: I have a file server that has delivered about 5.5 million images today. CPU is not an issue on that box.
[14:15]  * zul grumbles
[14:15] <Fidelix> This is golden information. Thank you very much gobbe, andreasf
[14:15] <andreasf> Fidelix: No problem :-)
[14:15] <Fidelix> andreasf, what web server do you use to serve these images?
[14:15]  * andreserl Morning!!
[14:16] <andreasf> Fidelix: Apache, actually.
[14:16] <Fidelix> andreasf, well, that's surprising. Are you using a reverse proxy? Serving files through x-filesend ?
[14:16] <andreasf> Fidelix: You might consider putting av caching server in front of your web server. Varnish, for instance.
[14:17] <Fidelix> andreasf, is that what you do? And does varnish help for big files? (by big, i mean, 60MB +
[14:18] <andreasf> Fidelix: This particular server does not use a reverse proxy / cache, just Apache. If you use a Varnish server, images will be delivered from RAM, not disk.
[14:18] <andreasf> Fidelix: Well, after they have been fetched from the backend.
[14:19] <patdk-wk> heh, I totally don't get that
[14:19] <Fidelix> andreasf, that would be a good idea for small files i believe. But not for big files
[14:19] <patdk-wk> wouldn't just putting more ram into the apache server do the same, havine more cache ram
[14:19] <andreasf> Fidelix: Depends on how much ram you have :-)
[14:19] <Fidelix> andreasf, 32GB
[14:20] <andreasf> Fidelix: You can configure Apache or Varnish to keep objects (images) in the cache for a specified amount of time, for instance 10 seconds or 10 hours.
[14:20] <Fidelix> But there are  a lot of big files. They would fill 32GB in a second
[14:21] <[diablo]> anyone know how to rsyslog to RELP? TCP and UDP are @ and @@ ... find no info on what clients use for RELP
[14:23] <andreasf> Fidelix: Have a look here: http://www.varnish-cache.org/docs/2.1/
[14:27] <hallyn> is anyone here running a maverick desktop with virt-manager?
[14:28] <andreserl> hallyn: i am
[14:29] <andreserl> hallyn: you mean virt-manager in maverick or a maverick dekstop VM with virt-manager?
[14:29] <gobbe> hallyn: this is server-channel, so desktop discussion should be on #ubuntu
[14:30] <andreserl> lol
[14:33] <ahs3> hallyn: i am, too
[14:33] <milligan> When I receive messages in pidgin,  the message pops up in the top right corner unless the chat is active. How can I disable that ?
[14:34] <Pici> milligan: Have you asked in #ubuntu ? #ubuntu-server is really for Server questions (cli).
[14:34] <milligan> alright - my bad :)
[14:35] <Pici> :)
[14:55] <SpamapS> doko_: no I have not tested it on lucid or maverick yet.
[14:56] <doko_> SpamapS: could you do this? I prepared uploads. Maybe I should upload these to a PPA first
[15:05] <hallyn> gr, started a vm-clone before remembering the nbd hang in current kernel.  now i have to reboot.
[15:10] <SpamapS> doko_: Yes I'll test in the next 2 hours in VMs.
[15:10] <SpamapS> doko_: and thanks!
[15:11] <SpamapS> doko_: if you were to upload yours to a ppa, that would certainly make it easier for me to do that testing.
[15:11] <doko_> SpamapS: will take more than 2h to build
[15:11] <SpamapS> doko_: do you have a branch I can just branch/bzr bd ?
[15:11] <doko_> SpamapS: so if you have a faster machine, I can point you to the sources instead
[15:11] <doko_> SpamapS: no
[15:13] <SpamapS> doko_: right.. eglibc... since we're just changing the maintainer scripts.. does it allow building with nocheck?
[15:13] <SpamapS> I think it takes my machine about an hour to build eglibc
[15:14] <doko_> SpamapS: yes
[15:15] <SpamapS> doko_: ok well if you can point me to the eglibc and upstart sources I'll start the build before I have to run an errand that will take about an hour. :)
[15:17] <doko_> SpamapS: see chinstrap:~doko
[15:18] <robbiew> kirkland: nice interview....and nice props to the team ;)
[15:18] <robbiew> http://www.talkincloud.com/ubuntu-server-and-the-cloud-notes-from-a-developer/
[15:19] <kirkland> robbiew: thanks, this author did a good job recapping the interview
[15:19] <kirkland> (seems like too often an article like this gets it all wrong -- not the case here!)
[15:21] <robbiew> yeah...and sometimes they spin it completely wrong...glad that didn't happen
[15:21] <robbiew> whew!
[15:24] <SpamapS> doko_: sorry I don't know how chinstrap works.. help?
[15:25] <doko_> SpamapS: copied to http://people.canonical.com/~doko/tmp/
[15:26] <SpamapS> doko_: ack, building
[15:27] <doko_> SpamapS: not the ~ppa version
[15:28] <zul> Daviey SpamapS: so the cobbler "pristine" source doesnt use the Makefile so i been scrambling a bit more
[15:32] <SpamapS> doko_: right, 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.8 is building now in a lucid chroot
[15:32] <andreserl> kirkland: howdy!! Should I create a new powernap-common package that installs the class that manages the config, plus the Monitors? (not that powernapd daemon instantiates this class)
[15:33] <elb0w> Are there cloud AMI's for 10.10
[15:34] <SpamapS> elb0w: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/maverick/current/
[15:34] <elb0w> ty
[15:38] <kirkland> andreserl: yes, definitely
[15:38] <kirkland> andreserl: also, let's bump the version to 2.x
[15:39] <kirkland> andreserl: these are significant new features
[15:39] <andreserl> kirkland: ok cool :)
[15:40] <andreserl> kirkland: will finish updating the manpages then. But if you wanna test before I finish, go ahead since the packaging has already been updated to install the new stuff
[15:43] <kirkland> andreserl: cool
[15:46] <zul> SpamapS Daviey: ok uploaded again
[16:21] <knixy> hello
[16:22] <knixy> I am trying to install avamar agento on my ubuntu server.  It is asking for libcap1 which I cannot find in apt-get.  Any thoughts?
[16:26] <knixy> says libcap1 is not available.  Package libcap1 has no installation candidate?
[16:27] <RoyK> hi all. I have an ubuntu server that seems to be in trouble - it restarted twice today without anything useful in the logs except two lines that I don't understand http://pastebin.com/yALsFcYE
[16:28] <gobbe> knixy: libcap2 - support for getting/setting POSIX.1e capabilities
[16:28] <RoyK> knixy: iirc libcap2 is the one used on ubuntu
[16:28] <gobbe> knixy: libcap1 is quite old
[16:28] <knixy> ok, let me try again
[16:29] <RoyK> knixy: if avamar needs libcap1, I guess finding a pre-built lib somewhere is the way to go
[16:29]  * SpamapS returns
[16:29] <SpamapS> hmm.. eglibc still building
[16:29]  * RoyK flees
[16:30]  * SpamapS pursues
[16:30] <gobbe> RoyK: are you running proprietary display drivers?-)
[16:30] <hggdh> JamesPage: it seems d-i changed again
[16:30] <knixy> this is what I get when I try to install the avamar deb
[16:30] <RoyK> gobbe: just 10.04 server - no fancy stuff except for those two 8-core CPUs and 64gigs of memory
[16:30] <JamesPage> hggdh: whats the impact?
[16:30] <knixy> http://pastebin.com/wFtuRGw6
[16:31] <hggdh> JamesPage: all tests failed; running one local I see d-i stopping and asking about what type of partition I want (Sun, msdos, AIX, etc)
[16:31] <gobbe> RoyK: ok, kernel taint happens usually with weird drivers :)
[16:31] <gobbe> RoyK: have you run memory checks?
[16:32] <RoyK> knixy: unless there's a lot of data or specific services, I would recommend using nfs for this one
[16:32] <hggdh> JamesPage: it seems my saving of d-i log is now functional (see http://<IP_ADDRESS>/job/AKT-DBench/25/artifact/25/test-results/)
[16:32] <RoyK> gobbe: not yet - I'm not at the office - but I just can't beleive I get those taint messages now - nothing's changed
[16:32] <knixy> RoyK, ok.  Debian is supported for avamar, but ubuntu is not, which makes me sad :p
[16:32] <RoyK> gobbe: it's basically a compute node...
[16:33] <RoyK> knixy: it's about time EMC wakes up :)
[16:33] <knixy> damn right
[16:33]  * RoyK uses bacula
[16:33] <gobbe> RoyK: yeah, that's just something, but i have seen several cases where kernel taint's are coming with display or wireless drivers
[16:33] <JamesPage> hggdh: excellent; looking at the daily tests I think xango3 is suffering from its file permissions issue on the iso images
[16:33] <knixy> we use avamar on all our servers here, 70+, if I don't get this working, then I have to switch the server to redhat., sigh
[16:34] <RoyK> gobbe: it should at least have told me which driver was loaded
[16:34] <hggdh> JamesPage: the change (where the preseed stops) can be seen here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/555844/
[16:34] <RoyK> or _what_ tainted the kernel
[16:34] <gobbe> RoyK: that's true
[16:34] <hggdh> JamesPage: yes, I need to grab the current libvirt and rebuild it with the permission patch
[16:34]  * hggdh goes to get it done
[16:35] <JamesPage> hggdh: I had some local success on maverick using the /etc/libvirt/qemu.conf settings
[16:36] <hggdh> JamesPage: setting 'dynamic_ownership=0' ?
[16:36] <andreserl> mdeslaur: could you please take a look at bug #525287
[16:36] <JamesPage> hggdh: yes - I also configured it to run as root
[16:38] <hggdh> JamesPage: hum. Will try it again -- I remember setting dyn_own to zero, but I do not remember is onwer was root, and it did not work
[16:38] <mdeslaur> andreserl: please ask someone from the server team...zul?
[16:38] <zul> nope...foundations i dont want to touch lvm2
[16:38] <andreserl> mdeslaur: ^^
[16:38] <andreserl> zul: who do you think I should contact from foundations?
[16:39] <JamesPage> hggdh: yes - I think that you need the change to root otherwise the normal libvirt account can't access the files r/w
[16:39] <JamesPage> hggdh: root just trounces everything :-)
[16:39] <zul> andreserl: colin maybe
[16:39] <hggdh> JamesPage: All hail root :-)
[16:39] <knixy> what is the cmd to find out how to remove avamar?
[16:39] <hggdh> trying now
[16:39] <hggdh> JamesPage: I will try to zero in this debian-installer change
[16:40] <gobbe> knixy: apt-get remove?
[16:40] <mdeslaur> zul: this would be clustering...who on the server team does clustering?
[16:40] <JamesPage> hggdh: of course I would never recommend doing this on a piece of production infrastructure but hey - its my laptop :-)
[16:40] <andreserl> mdeslaur: me!!
[16:40] <andreserl> zul: ok thanks
[16:40] <knixy> gobbe, im not sure the whole name.  isnt there a grep cmd to find out the exact name of it?
[16:40] <hggdh> JamesPage: exactly my view ;-)
[16:40] <mdeslaur> andreserl: hehe, sorry about that :)
[16:40] <andreserl> mdeslaur: no probs :) just changed nicks btw, I'm RoAkSoAx :)
[16:41] <JamesPage> hggdh: not sure about the d-i issue; the one test that ran on mercury AM today did pass....
[16:41] <mdeslaur> andreserl: ah! that would explain my confusion :)
[16:41] <hggdh> oooohhh andreserl is RoAkSoAx...
[16:41]  * hggdh jots it down
[16:41] <andreserl> mdeslaur: yeah... it indeed is confusing and hggdh just proved lol!
[16:41] <andreserl> hggdh: xD
[16:44] <hggdh> andreserl: yeah, we should select nicks that anyone can pronounce
[16:45]  * hggdh disregards the implicit irony of previous statement
[16:45] <dany123456> buona sera
[16:45] <dany123456> !list
[16:45] <andreserl> hggdh, lol!! that's why I indeed changed to this nick... though noone ever recognizes me with it lol
[16:45] <hggdh> heh
[16:45] <gobbe> knixy: dpkg-query
[16:45] <knixy> well i fixed it
[16:45] <knixy> lol, i was alien a redhat rpm to deb
[16:46] <knixy> so I got the real debian deb, and booom.  installed
[16:46] <knixy> thanks guys!
[16:50] <Daviey> zul, hmm.. looking at the get-orig-source stanza, how come you switched back?
[16:51] <zul> Daviey: because the new get-orig-source generates the pristine tarball
[16:51] <RoyK> any linux wiz around that might help me understand these? http://pastebin.com/yALsFcYE - it's a server system, no graphics card or anything needing fancy drivers, and it happened during run time, server rebooted half an hour later for reasons unknown.....
[16:55] <Daviey> zul, Aye, i just wondered if you worked out what was wrong with the other way?
[16:55] <zul> Daviey: dont know really
[16:55] <zul> Daviey: im happy with it the way it is now
[16:57] <SpamapS> zul: do I see that we're actually adding cobbler4j back in?
[16:57] <zul> SpamapS: er yep
[16:57] <SpamapS> zul: maybe the cobbler project publishes it with different artifacts?
[16:57] <zul> SpamapS; nope i checked
[16:58] <SpamapS> zul: so it just sits in git and rots? :(
[16:58] <zul> SpamapS: pretty much
[16:58] <SpamapS> zul: well I'm glad we're including it. :)
[16:58] <SpamapS> will suggest then that they 1) remove the jar from git, and 2) publish the rest in the sdist.
[17:00] <patdk-wk> royk, http://fonality.com/trixbox/wiki/kernel-tainted
[17:00] <RoyK> patdk-wk: I know, but nothing happened on the box except the normal runs during that time - no su/sudo - nothing
[17:01] <patdk-wk> that page looks to be saying, probably hardware issue
[17:01] <wizardslovak> hello people
[17:01] <patdk-wk> but need more logs to know what
[17:01] <wizardslovak> i just recently installed webmin  , and tried to login with root
[17:01] <wizardslovak> but now i got "Error - Access denied for <IP_ADDRESS>"
[17:02] <compdoc> <IP_ADDRESS>?
[17:02] <compdoc> thats an odd address
[17:02] <patdk-wk> why? it's perfectly valid
[17:02] <wizardslovak> well thats error what i got
[17:02] <patdk-wk> lo by default has a /8 netmask
[17:03] <compdoc> dont you mean <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[17:03] <patdk-wk> so 127.x will work :)
[17:03] <wizardslovak> man i copied it
[17:04] <wizardslovak> its <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:04] <RoyK> patdk-wk: there are no more logs - nothing more than those two lines - but I guess it may be a hardware issue
[17:06] <patdk-wk> royk, this seems to be the only thing that can cause a hardware issue, that sets taint
[17:06] <patdk-wk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Check_Exception
[17:07] <cole> andreserl: you are the cluster expert right?
[17:07] <patdk-wk> dunno :(
[17:07] <andreserl> cole, I'd not consider myself an expert, but highly knowledgeable, yes :)
[17:08] <SpamapS> Build needed 01:34:19, 1775336k disc space
[17:08]  * SpamapS fires up a fresh test VM
[17:08] <SpamapS> btw, does anybody know how to remove vms from virt-manager?
[17:09] <SpamapS> kind of annoying that you can create, but not destroy, from it
 virsh undefine...
[17:09] <andreserl> cole, what can I help you with?
[17:09] <thesheff17_> SpamapS: I use virsh
[17:09] <SpamapS> they're not listed in virsh
[17:09] <thesheff17_> list --all
[17:10] <hallyn> SpamapS: right click, delete is an option
[17:10] <SpamapS> oh thats annoying
[17:10] <hallyn> why would they not show up?
[17:10] <thesheff17_> destroy server
[17:10] <SpamapS> hallyn: its not on mine
[17:10] <thesheff17_> undefine server
[17:10] <andreserl> SpamapS, is the VM stopped?
[17:10] <hallyn> SpamapS: then connect to the one where they are (virsh -c qemu:///etc)
[17:10] <SpamapS> wait
[17:10] <SpamapS> now it is
[17:10] <SpamapS> or maybe it was..
[17:10] <SpamapS> and my hatred of hiding everything in context menus prevented me from finding it
[17:11] <andreserl> SpamapS, lol you have to shutdown the VM before being able to delete it  :)
[17:11] <hallyn> you were doing virsh list --all to show the ones that are down?
[17:11] <SpamapS> I think I was just being blind
[17:11] <hallyn> k
[17:11] <SpamapS> forget everything I've said since "btw, does anybody know how"
[17:11] <SpamapS> :)
[17:12] <hallyn> i'm good at amnesia
[17:12] <andreserl> SpamapS, Dallas left you blind man? Too much golden hair xD
[17:12] <Daviey> !
[17:12]  * SpamapS still seeing Stars after two nights near the Lemon Bar ;)
[17:12] <andreserl> SpamapS, +1
[17:13] <cole> andreserl: would there be any value in adding crm to keepalive pkg or does it only talk to services provided by pacemaker?
[17:13] <cole> andreserl: poorly stated, obviously meant adding crm deb as a dep for keepalive
[17:14] <hallyn> jdstrand: i'm trynig to reproduce your kvm instability on ecryptfs, fwiw.  (no luck yet, but trying)
[17:14] <andreserl> cole, pacemaker and keepalived are two totally different things. In fact, keepalived can be seen as some kind of Resource Manager/Messaging layer, such as would pacemaker/corosync or pacemaker/heartbeat are
[17:15] <jiboumans> smoser: this is quite awesome: http://ubuntu-smoser.blogspot.com/2011/01/failsafe-and-manual-management-of.html
[17:15] <jiboumans> also, hi folks
[17:15] <SpamapS> jiboumans: o/
[17:16] <smoser> its less valuable than it used to be. if you're using ebs root, catastrophe can be fixed.
[17:16] <jiboumans> smoser: the awesomeness is in the upgrades + failsafe together
[17:16] <RoAkSoAx> jiboumans: o/
[17:16] <jiboumans> smoser: <insert desire for this feature on lucid here>
[17:16] <smoser> its there, almost.
[17:16] <smoser> did you see that ?
[17:16] <jiboumans> RoAkSoAx: hey, and belated congrats
[17:17] <jiboumans> smoser: not in details
[17:17] <smoser> the latest images can be launched with grub-pv kernel, they just don't do it by default.
[17:17] <jiboumans> nice
[17:17] <jiboumans> where can i RTFM?
[17:17] <smoser> and the latest dailies use it by default.
[17:17] <smoser> really only i my release announcement
 smoser: the awesomeness is in the
[17:17] <smoser> oops
[17:17] <smoser> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-cloud/2010-December/000466.html
[17:17] <smoser> paste fail
[17:19] <jiboumans> smoser: awesome. safe enough to launch a production service with you reckon?
[17:20] <RoAkSoAx> jiboumans: thank you!!
[17:21] <wizardslovak> what are you guys using for web interface?
[17:21] <wizardslovak> like webmin
[17:21] <wizardslovak> is there anything else?
[17:21] <knixy> maudI use that
[17:21] <smoser> jiboumans, yeah, its solid. i would recommend using the pv-grub kernels.
[17:21] <knixy> sorry, i use webmin
[17:21] <wizardslovak> just curious
[17:22] <jiboumans> smoser: nice. are you switching default aki's at some point you think?
[17:22] <smoser> the idea is to do that in next round.. the dailies do it now.
[17:23] <hallyn> jdstrand: oh, but i'm NOT using encrypted filenames.  you're using ext4 right?
[17:24] <jdstrand> hallyn: I am using ext3 for /home, with encrypted home
[17:25] <jiboumans> smoser: looking forward to it.. it's an awesome feature for us and i'm sure for many more folks on aws
[17:25] <jiboumans> smoser++
[17:28] <hallyn> jdstrand: d'oh, i'm testing ext4, but that likely won't matter.  but are you using encrypted filenames?
[17:32] <jdstrand> hallyn: I am
[17:33] <hallyn> jdstrand: hm, well all 3 vm's appear to be hung.  i didn't witness any segfaults, but they won't budge
[17:33] <jdstrand> hallyn: try logging into a console
[17:34] <jdstrand> hallyn: I saw something similar, and logging into a console and trying to run some commands showed things were really wrong
[17:34] <hallyn> jdstrand: i had previously installed ubuntu-desktop, which is also hung
[17:35] <jdstrand> hallyn: it could just be networking-- I've seen it as somewhat flaky occassionally
[17:35]  * jdstrand wonders if it is virtio net...
[17:35] <hallyn> but gdm is hung in all 3, so i can't log in
[17:35] <jdstrand> hallyn: I meant on tty1
[17:36] <hallyn> right but i can't get to tty1
[17:36] <jdstrand> hallyn: but gdm hung is definitely interesting
[17:36] <hallyn> well no, not gdm per se,
[17:36] <hallyn> the whoel vnc session
[17:36] <hallyn> so having gvncviewer send ctrl-alt-f1 does nothing either
[17:36] <jdstrand> hallyn: I see. can you disconnect the vnc and reconnect? what about sshing in?
[17:37] <hallyn> no route to host - but i was ssh'd in when they hung
[17:37] <hallyn> i had been disconnected from vnc, so each time i'm reconnecting
[17:38] <hallyn> hm,
[17:38] <hallyn> i'm out of space on the ecryptfs partition (8K to spare)
[17:38] <hallyn> drat
[17:38] <jdstrand> ah
[17:38] <jdstrand> that could do it
[17:39] <jdstrand> I was always able to vnc, fwiw
[17:39] <hallyn> yeah, which means i haven't reproduced your bug :(
[17:40] <hallyn> lunchtime.   will try again later.  i guess with just two vms :)
[17:40] <jdstrand> heh
[18:02] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: done! Everything should be fine now at the branch :). Almost ready to release
[18:07] <wizardslovak> weird
[18:07] <wizardslovak> i just installed new system with lamp and ssh
[18:07] <wizardslovak> and i cant start mysql
[18:08] <wizardslovak> cant start it from webmin not terminal
[18:08] <Fidelix> wizardslovak, have you checked the logs?
[18:09] <wizardslovak> "Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[18:09] <wizardslovak> utility, e.g. service mysql start
[18:09] <wizardslovak> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[18:09] <wizardslovak> Upstart job, you may also use the start(8) utility, e.g. start mysql
[18:09] <wizardslovak> start: Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[18:09] <wizardslovak> "
[18:11] <Fidelix> wizardslovak, I'd really like to know how you managed to remove this socket, or to misconfigure mysql's socket.
[18:11] <wizardslovak> man i just installed userver in virtual box , changed ip to static and installed webmin
[18:11] <wizardslovak> thats it , didnt even touch mysql
[18:14]  * RoAkSoAx might have to Update RHCS to latest release and keep delta with Debian
[18:15] <zul> SpamapS: around?
[18:17] <wizardslovak> Fidelix, and i cant find help online
[18:18] <Fidelix> wizardslovak, I'm also not sure how to help you. If you just installed mysql and webmin, it should've worked.
[18:18] <wizardslovak> well hour ago i installed same think on other pc and it worked so i am pretty suprissed
[18:18] <SpamapS> zul: yeah wassup?
[18:19] <zul> SpamapS: so i was looking at the mysql bugs and a lot of them are fixed in newer versions of mysql but we are still using 5.1.49
[18:20] <zul> SpamapS: so i was thinking of updating to latest and greatest so we can close a whole bunch of them, but for natty+1 we move to mysql 5.5
[18:20] <zul> what state is your package in?
[18:22] <SpamapS> zul: I just uploaded 5.5 to my PPA. :)
[18:23] <SpamapS> zul: like, 30 minutes before you said "around" ;)
[18:23] <zul> url?
[18:23] <zul> its my esp
[18:24] <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/+archive/fixes/+sourcepub/1448330/+listing-archive-extra
[18:25] <SpamapS> hrm a test may have failed on the amd64 build.. doh
[18:32] <ignarps> does anyone know about this bug and why it does not seem to be getting any attention ?  bug 683640 in lsb scripts
[18:34] <ignarps> same issue effects #702159
[18:41] <RoyK> erm.... just started boinc on this server - top shows 75% load per core, but sar shows 100%
[18:42] <wizardslovak>  Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[18:42] <wizardslovak> anyone ?
[18:42] <Fidelix> wizardslovak, if i were in your position, I'd just reinstall ubuntu. I'm not telling you to do that, just what I'd do.
[18:43] <wizardslovak> hmmm
[18:43] <tsimpson> I'd just start the dbus service
[18:43] <wizardslovak> tsimpson, and what would be command for that?
[18:45] <tsimpson> wizardslovak: try "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start" assuming you have dbus installed
[18:45] <wizardslovak> command not found
[18:45] <wizardslovak> installing it now
[18:46] <wizardslovak> same error
[18:46] <zul> jdstrand: thanks for accepting cobbler
[18:47] <RoAkSoAx> \o/ cobbler!!
[18:49] <jdstrand> sure :)
[18:52] <SpamapS> w00000t cobbler uploaded!
[18:52] <\sh> cobbler is using kickstart in the background, right?
[18:52] <SpamapS> it can, but we added some preseed files :)
[18:52] <SpamapS> it will feed back whatever the template contains when the client makes a request.
[18:53] <\sh> so kickstart or preseeding...which means for debian/ubuntu/redhat/opensuse mostly use the installer automation
[18:55] <\sh> how does cobbler handle problems during kernel network boot with ipconfig?
[18:56] <SpamapS> \sh: it really doesn't know about them.
[18:57] <binBASH> Hi \sh
[18:57] <SpamapS> \sh: I believe it disables auto-install once the preseed/kickstart have been requested once though.
[18:58] <binBASH> Hope your nightly admining session went fine ;)
[18:59] <\sh> SpamapS: the problem is not the installation, but the "how do I get my packages without having ip connectivity" which comes first .. mostly when you are telling the kernel to dhcp on your dhcp /pxe enabled interfaces...just asking, because most of the problems with automating linux installs is during kernel boottime (means jumping into initramfs + doing ipconfig dhcp magic)
[19:00] <\sh> binBASH: see blog :)
[19:00] <\sh> binBASH: yes...success :)
[19:00] <SpamapS> \sh: cobbler doesn't get in the way of the OS auto install.. it just feeds it configurations.
[19:02] <\sh> SpamapS: ok..so you can't overcome the problems without tweaking your underlaying OS (which means, replace some boot initrds of your installation media, e..g which is inside the netboot image of debian/ubuntu)
[19:02] <\sh> add "easily" here ;)
[19:02] <thesheff17_> \sh https://www.frackingtubes.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_preseed.cfg_installs_off_PXE_Boot is a how to I did for preseed and 10.04
[19:02] <binBASH> dc2? :)
[19:03] <\sh> thesheff17_: what NICs?
[19:03] <\sh> s/what/which/
[19:03] <SpamapS> \sh: baby steps. We just added a provisioning system which allows large scale orchestration of network installations, and works for the common case. It sounds to me like you're talking about edge cases.
[19:04] <\sh> SpamapS: I wonder if Flex10 Fabrics are edge cases...ask HP how many G7 blade servers they were selling in 2010 and are selling in 2011  ;)
[19:04] <SpamapS> \sh: Whats so special about them that they can't use normal network semantics?
[19:05] <\sh> SpamapS: they can...but ipconfig doesn't work with them properly, whysoever...I had a lot of problems..and checking google, many users of those NICs do have problems too
[19:06] <\sh> SpamapS: replacing ipconfig with udhcpd helped here...but I wonder if it's easily done without tweaking the netboot image
[19:06] <SpamapS> \sh: if its not in the upstream kernel yet.. its highly likely either a) companies like Canonical and/or RedHat have to be paid to integrate these things, or b) its not going to happen.
[19:07] <SpamapS> \sh: and even if it is popular, I consider new hardware (meaning, created in the last 12 months) as an edge case.
[19:07] <\sh> SpamapS: be2net / be2scsi are upstream, but the problem here is ipconfig (eventually not working nicely with cisco iphelper or something like that)
[19:08] <SpamapS> I think its pretty crazy that end users would ever need to tweak their netboot imags!
[19:08] <SpamapS> images even
[19:09] <SpamapS> btw, cobbler imports the whole CD onto disk.. you have the option to tweak the netboot image at that point.
[19:09] <SpamapS> But, yeah, not easily.
[19:09] <\sh> SpamapS: yeah...loop mount the iso...unzip the initrd, uncpio the resulting file, and re-configure initramfs ;)
[19:10] <\sh> SpamapS: it's actually easy when you know how...but I don't think that the normal user will ever netboot linux, only crazy admins ;)
[19:12] <zul> oops...did i open a can of words
[19:14]  * patdk-wk blames the netsplit on zul
[19:20] <slicslak> hey, i have a really slow running box
[19:20] <slicslak> i can't even get top to come up
[19:20] <patdk-wk> check swap :)
[19:20] <slicslak> i would like to find out the culprit, any advice on juist getting the top 3 proc consuming processes?
[19:20] <thesheff17_> slicslak: are the drives full df -h ?
[19:20] <patdk-wk> you can't find the culprit, till you know what is wrong
[19:20] <slicslak> drive space is looking fine
[19:20] <patdk-wk> and slow, isn't that is wrong, it's the result of what is wrong
  patdk-wk how do you check swap?
[19:20] <patdk-wk> free -m
[19:20] <patdk-wk> vmstat 10
[19:21] <RoyK> top
[19:21] <patdk-wk> I never liked it in top :)
[19:21] <slicslak> ya, of course, free.  ya, swap is fine
[19:22] <RoyK> slicslak: install sysstat, enable it, and you'll get performance data logged every 15 minutes or whatever you set it to
[19:22] <slicslak> RoyK, i'll check that out
[19:22] <RoyK> the important thing isn't the amount of swap used
[19:22] <slicslak> mmm, everything is fine again now.  wierd.
[19:22] <slicslak> RoyK, oh?
[19:23] <patdk-wk> it's how much is going out, how often :)
[19:23] <RoyK> indeed
[19:23] <patdk-wk> why I like to watch it with vmstat
[19:23] <RoyK> slicslak: for some systems, setting vm.swappiness = 100 can be very good
[19:23] <slicslak> right, so use vmstat and watch the io col
[19:23] <RoyK> if some applications allocate a bunch of memory not used much, swap is good
[19:23] <patdk-wk> well, for swap, si so
[19:24] <RoyK> slicslak: I'd recommend sysstat/sar
[19:24] <patdk-wk> for disk usage, bi bo
[19:24] <RoyK> that logs perf data over time
[19:24]  * patdk-wk uses munin for that
[19:24] <RoyK> well, sar is a bit simpler
[19:25] <patdk-wk> most of these type of issues don't last long enough though to cause 5/15min averages to jump
[19:25] <RoyK> no need for a fancy gui if you just want the data :P
[19:25] <patdk-wk> never used sar before :)
[19:25] <RoyK> it's simple, logs the data, and you can get all sorts of goodies out of it
[19:43] <wizardslovak> mysql hostname is hostname of server right?
[19:44] <Pici> Wherever mysqld is running.
[20:01] <wizardslovak> is there any gui client to copy files from desktop to userver?
[20:01] <wizardslovak> i am using xubuntu
[20:05] <jMCg> Hey folks. I'm looking for a way to set persistently the group permissions on a disk to the webserver user, who'll be using these devices (raw) as cache.
[20:06] <jMCg> I was thinking that'll be doable in udev, but I'm not fluent in udev.
[20:07] <nishttal2> Hi guys, one of our servers running Ubuntu 10.10 rebooted around 50 mins ago.. how do I investigate why that happened
[20:08] <jMCg> nishttal2: syslog.
[20:08] <jMCg> Check your crash-dump!
[20:08] <nishttal2> jMCg, how do i check that?
[20:08] <jMCg> nishttal2: less /var/log/syslog
[20:11] <nishttal2> jMCg, http://www.fpaste.org/XC0d/ in syslog
[20:11] <nishttal2> jMCg, what should i look for
[20:11] <nishttal2> jMCg, i dont see anything here that stands out
[20:12] <qman__> nishttal2, you should look for things that happened around the time of the crash
[20:13] <nishttal2> jMCg, qman__ : http://www.fpaste.org/9YwA/ is the messages
[20:16] <qman__> nishttal2, nothing of interest there, all normal in a reboot situation
[20:16] <nishttal2> qman__, yeah but question is why did it reboot :-/
[20:17] <nishttal2> qman__, do you think it was power failure?
[20:17] <qman__> power outage or hardware failure is most likely
[20:17] <nishttal2> qman__, hardware failure ..ouch!!!
[20:17] <qman__> software issues usually leave evidence behind
[20:18] <nishttal2> qman__, and thre is no way to check for hardware failure?
[20:18] <qman__> there are tests you can run but they're not definitive
[20:18] <nishttal2> qman__, i see.. thanks
[20:19] <qman__> if the problem persists with no other explanation, assume that
[20:19] <nishttal2> ok
[20:19] <qman__> if it's not on UPS or you have people working near the power cord, power loss is just as likely
[20:34] <fbc_> How do I install the HTML DOM Parser libs?
[20:37] <jMCg> fbc_: apt-cache search something.. apt(-get|itude) install whatever...
[20:38]  * Datz wonders if there is a package "whatever" by chance
[20:39] <jMCg> ad udev: I suppose something like  ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:01.1-scsi-1:0:0:0" (With the right id) might work.. but the problem is does /dev/sdc7 have such an ID?
[21:01] <wizardslovak> how do i check if i have ftp installed on server?
[21:01] <wizardslovak> i installed wordpress and i need to install few plugins
[21:01] <wizardslovak> it asks me for hostname username and password
[21:01] <wizardslovak> and still cant connect to it
[21:04] <hallyn> wizardslovak: you could 'dpkg -l | grep ftp' to see if the package is installed
[21:05] <wizardslovak> dpkg -l | grep ftp
[21:05] <wizardslovak> ii  ftp                                   0.17-19build1                                   The FTP client
[21:05] <wizardslovak> ii  lftp                                  4.0.2-1ubuntu0.1                                Sophisticated command-line FTP/HTTP client programs
[21:05] <wizardslovak> hostname i should use my wan server ip ?
[21:07] <RoyK> wizardslovak: just install vsftpd - best thing there is
[21:08] <wizardslovak> thank you
[21:24] <kirkland> marrusl: yo
[21:28] <stiv2k> help, i set up gitosis but i'm locked out of it
[21:28] <stiv2k> how can I check out the gitosis-admin repo as the gitosis user to fix it?
[21:44]  * hallyn humbly suggests that apport hook for bind9 should append 'grep named /var/log/syslog' to bugs
[21:44] <hallyn> is there a reason not to do that?  too dangerous privacy-wise?
[21:49] <wizardslovak> i got blog setup on web.com/blog but i want blog to be seeing when people will go to web.com
[21:49] <wizardslovak> i gotta change it in apache right?
[21:51] <doko_> zul: ping
[21:51] <doko_> zul: irqbalance: debian/rules still includes quilt.mk and ftbfs
[21:58] <wizardslovak> i am getting this error
[21:58] <wizardslovak> Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[21:59] <RoAkSoAx> Anyone experiencing issues similar to "E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/h/heartbeat/libheartbeat2_3.0.4-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb: Size mismatch"  in pbuilders?
[22:01] <wizardslovak> how to point apache to read index.php insted of index.html
[22:10] <wizardslovak> now thats weird
[22:33] <soren> wizardslovak: It does so automatically.
[22:42] <froek> I'm getting a euca-register connection refused when trying to download images.. any hints?
[23:05] <juven> hi
[23:06] <Tellmarch> hi, which is better to use with tomcat in ubuntu 10.04LTS, the open-jre or sun-jre?
[23:06] <juven> can someone give me some adcie
[23:06] <juven> i have 10.10 and want some kind of gui so i installed the gui version
[23:06] <juven> and i want remote access
[23:07] <juven> how can i set remote access on ubuntu 10.10 desktop when i am logged in a root
[23:07] <juven> they say that it should be under the system tab but dont see it
[23:16] <juven> 1 quick dumb question, i have ubuntu 10.10 enterprise server i am able to login to ubuntu enterprise cloud web but how do i install vm in it
[23:16] <juven> i am a big
[23:16] <juven> newbie*
[23:18] <RoyK> http://www.b3tards.com/u/d81a83cf6d5a93144ba7/usb_laptop_self-charger_cable.jpg
[23:18] <jMCg> juven: then you shouldn't be running Enterprise Servers.
[23:19] <Tellmarch> jMCg, what a stupid answer that is.
[23:19] <juven> so this is another stupid question :D why cant the cloud servers run vm
[23:20] <juven> is there like other help sites i can read things from
[23:20] <geekbri> juven: did you try the ubuntu help site?
[23:20] <juven> yeaa
[23:20] <juven> i couldnt get anything only information they have is to download xen server
[23:22] <geekbri> juven: what exactly are you trying to do, are you using amazon EC2? im a bit confused but it seems like you want to install a VM server into a cloud server... which seems a bit unnecessary since if youre using ec2 you can just spin up new cloud servers cheaply
[23:23] <juven> ok i am actually in the learning phase so i bought a server and installed ubuntu 10.10 cloud
[23:24] <geekbri> well if you own one server, why not install ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[23:24] <juven> and what i want to do is learn the whole linux system as i want to get certified :)
[23:24] <juven> bc the place i am working for they are moving to cloud
[23:24] <juven> so trying to learn
[23:25] <geekbri> juven: install ubuntu 10.04 onto that server, sign up for an amazon AWS account and get an EC2 account if you want to learn how to install things onto a cloud server.
[23:25] <RoyK> juven: I don't know any certification programs for ubuntu yet, but I'm sure you'll find some if you check canonical's pages
[23:25] <zul> doko: right ill get to it tonight
[23:26] <juven> no i meant general certification like linux+ but b4 that i want to learn about cloud with linux
[23:27] <geekbri> juven: you are all sorts of confused my friend.  just install ubuntu 10.04 LTS onto that physical server ou bought and worry about EC2 after you figure out how to do that
[23:27] <geekbri> am i being trolled?
[23:28] <juven> i know about vm already but just one quick question so from the cloud server how do i install like regular server
[23:28] <geekbri> juven: that depends on what cloud service you are using. If you are using ec2 you can use google.com and find plenty of articles on how to spin up an ubuntu EC2 instance of your own.
[23:29] <juven> ok thx if i have any question please help me but thx alot though i will do some self research on ec2
[23:30] <RoyK> http://www.b3tards.com/u/d81a83cf6d5a93144ba7/usb_laptop_self-charger_cable.jpg
[23:41] <twb> My lucid router serves NTP to downstream networks.  Occasionally (ref hourly samples: http://paste.debian.net/105104/), the jitter goes through the roof.  Why?
[23:42]  * RoyK blames solar output


[05:00] <GiGaHuRtZ> Anyone awake? I asked a kernel question in #ubuntu+1 cause sometimes people are knowledgeable there with this stuff
[05:01] <GiGaHuRtZ> Anyway, I like to test upcoming kernels.  And since the ppa mainline mirror, is no longer a ppa and doesnt work like a apt mirror. I wrote a simple script to use as a cron job
[05:01] <GiGaHuRtZ> And it grabs the 2 heads and the linux image of the daily build, and installs them via dpkg
[05:02] <GiGaHuRtZ> My question is, I know there is a 3.11rc3>rc4>rc5 (as of midnight EST) dir
[05:02] <GiGaHuRtZ> But I have been grabbing from the daily dir http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/current/
[05:03] <GiGaHuRtZ> And the dailies are like 3.11-99999999 or whatever, and I know 9999999 usually denotes daily
[05:03] <GiGaHuRtZ> My question is, inbetween rcX releases, those dailies include newer code not yet put into the rcX branch, right?
[05:04] <GiGaHuRtZ> So if I want newest, my current script grabbing from the daily dir, would be the best bet?
[05:04] <GiGaHuRtZ> razther than http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-rc5-saucy/ or whatever newest rc there is
[08:02] <tjaalton> what's holding back 3.11 from saucy?
[08:05] <smb> tjaalton, Appears to be something about "out of date" with the di modules... Wished I could understand Britney better...
[08:06] <tjaalton> oh, needs d-i rebuild?
[08:06] <tjaalton> makes sense
[08:06] <smb> Though I thought that now should happen automatic... So probably something holding that
[08:07] <tjaalton> ah, ok
[08:08] <smb> Guess we have to wait till infinity wakes up or rtg
[09:25] <mwhudson> is there someone i can bribe to have http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=c5f927a6f62196226915f12194c9d0df4e2210d7 turn up in a kernel for raring?
[09:25] <mwhudson> (it's a fix for perf on arm32)
[15:29] <rtg> jjohansen, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1202161/comments/8
[15:29] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1202161 in linux (Ubuntu) "seccomp filter: execve(): Operation not permitted" [Medium,Incomplete]
[15:51] <jjohansen> rtg: yep thanks
[15:55] <rtg> let the carnage begin: [ubuntu/saucy] linux 3.11.0-1.4 (Accepted)
[17:36]  * rtg -> lunch
[19:48]  * rtg -> EOD
[20:07] <bjf> stgraber, can you verify bug 1204194 ?
[20:07] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1204194 in linux (Ubuntu Raring) "Please add iwldvm to nic-*-modules" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204194
[21:02] <nessita> jsalisbury, hey there! saw your comment in the bug 1201528. Question (perhaps silly): what's the point on testing a kernel from mainline released on 30-Jun-2013 when I already tested a kernel from mainline from 04-Aug-2013 (v3.10.5-saucy)?
[21:02] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1201528 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "[Realtek ALC889] - Audio Playback Unavailable" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1201528
[21:03] <nessita> is worth noting that v3.10.5-saucy did not break audio
[21:27] <stgraber> bjf: I filed that bug by proxy for a machine we had around during a sprint in bluefin, but if you're happy with me grabbing the udev and confirming that iwldvm.ko is in there and marking it verification-done, sure I can do that ;)
[21:27] <bjf> stgraber, that works for me. we just like the bug 'owner' to be the one to verify (in general).
[21:30] <stgraber> bjf: done
[21:30] <bjf> stgraber, thanks!


[12:54] <wizzy> Is there a jigdo download for edubuntu 10.04 DVD ?
[16:30] <sbalneav> Morning all
[16:31] <bencrisford> sbalneav: afternoon :)
[18:19] <bencrisford> mhall119: ping
[18:19] <bencrisford> you want to talk about qimo in my OW session?
[18:19] <bencrisford> cos, im in the middle of it :P
[19:19] <mhall119> sorry bencrisford, taking care of my kids today
[19:32] <bencrisford> mhall119: is ok :) I gave qimo a mention anyway for you :)
[19:42] <Mixs357> Hello
[19:43] <bencrisford> Mixs357: hi :)
[19:43] <Mixs357> I was dowloading Ubuntu, but I wanna by BitToen
[19:44] <Mixs357> torrent* Idk with one choose...
[19:45] <bencrisford> Mixs357: where are you downloading from?
[19:45] <Mixs357> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[19:47] <Mixs357> With one?
[19:47] <bencrisford> Mixs357: do you know if you have an amd64 computer?
[19:48] <bencrisford> do you have more than 4GB of ram?
[19:48] <Mixs357> 2GB
[19:48] <Mixs357> Im using Ubuntu 7...
[19:48] <Mixs357> too much things not woking
[19:48] <Mixs357> working*
[19:50] <bencrisford> Mixs357: you want just normal ubuntu?  not for server or netbook or anything?
[19:50] <Mixs357> Yes, normal
[19:51] <bencrisford> Mixs357: I think you'll be wanting this one ;) http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[19:51] <Mixs357> I wanna get it by Bittorrent but I dont know whith one choose Xx
[19:53] <Mixs357> I migrate from win XP
[19:54] <bencrisford> that one will download a torrent
[19:54] <bencrisford> which you can open with bittorrent
[19:54] <bencrisford> and that will bittorrent it
[19:54] <Mixs357> 3h.... uhhhhhh
[19:55] <Mixs357> MY keys OMG
[19:55] <bencrisford> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download - you could try the normal ISO download
[19:56] <Mixs357> its too hard write
[19:56] <bencrisford> ?
[19:56] <Mixs357> MY: a, r, f.....
[19:56] <Mixs357> not woking
[19:57] <bencrisford> oh :/
[19:58] <Mixs357> do you know any Screen Keybord for firefox?
[19:58] <Mixs357> something messed up in driber
[20:02] <bencrisford> nope, sorry ;/
[20:05] <Mixs357> Brb
[20:07] <Micks> I did it
[20:09] <Micks> virtual keybboard working
[20:09] <Micks> oiyyjjkhhhhggg
[20:10] <Micks> ook not reaally workkingg
[20:10] <alkisg> keyboard layout problems? There are settings for that
[20:10] <alkisg> http://blog.klauskiwi.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/screenshot-keyboard-preferences.png
[20:11] <Micks> hm
[20:12] <Micks> i think thhat somethin burneed for the keyss stoped workinggg likkee  aa paadronn
[20:15] <Micks> in ubunttu7...... if i want turn off pc.. how can iclose bittorrent and open it again later?
[20:16] <alkisg> There's no ubuntu 7, there are windows 7
[20:16] <alkisg> There's also ubuntu 10.04
[20:16] <alkisg> Ubuntu 10.04 comes with "transmission" as a torrent client
[20:16] <Micks> ubuntu7, is my version
[20:16] <alkisg> You can just close the pc and open it after reboot
[20:17] <alkisg> Here are the releases: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[20:17] <Micks> in this there no option to open bittorrent
[20:18] <alkisg> Do you mean 7.04 or 7.10? Those are unsupported now...
[20:18] <Micks> 7.10
[20:19] <Micks> thats why im downloading thenew
[20:27] <Micks> i falled oh
[23:36] <Ahmuck> http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=67926


[00:12] <rhpot1991> Corvix: if you are using SD you can disable channels from your lineup from their website
[00:12] <Corvix> SD?
[00:12] <rhpot1991> guess your not, schedules direct
[00:12] <Corvix> I'm using DVB-S in Germany
[00:12] <Corvix> i get my schedules over EIT
[00:13] <Corvix> would be great to be able to organise channels in groups as well ...
[00:13] <Corvix> and have different views on the same dataset
[00:13] <rhpot1991> I *think* you can do that in mythtv-setup
[00:21] <Corvix> briefly checked, didnt look like
[00:21] <rhpot1991> I know you can group recording devices
[00:21] <rhpot1991> thought you could do the same with channels
[00:22] <Corvix> not afaik
[00:22] <Corvix> or having a custom order other then number or name ... would be greate too ...
[00:23] <Corvix> and some conveniet manager to do all that ... I have around 1500 freetv channels and the tools ootb are not really useful there
[01:15] <cmdln> ok im still having problems with my grey hauppage remote.
[01:15] <cmdln> I have run irrecord, and have irw now showing keypresses
[01:16] <cmdln> however myth still does not respond to my remote
[01:31] <cmdln> um
[01:31] <cmdln> ok
[01:32] <cmdln> so i never actually checked while watching tv
[01:32] <cmdln> .... remote seems to work while watching tv
[01:32] <cmdln> cant navigate the menu though?
[02:52] <crazy_bus> I'm getting events in irw and I tried to edit the mythtv file in /.lirc  But mythtv still isn't recognising command I enter via the remote.  Can anyone help?
[03:12] <crazy_bus> I'm getting events in irw and I tried to edit the mythtv file in /.lirc  But mythtv still isn't recognising command I enter via the remote.  Can anyone help?
[03:20] <crazy_bus> *rebooting to see if that helps
[03:29] <crazy_bus> I'm getting events in irw and I tried to edit the mythtv lirc file  But mythtv still isn't recognising command I enter via the remote (except for volume and numbers).  Can anyone help?
[03:31] <rhpot1991_laptop> sounds like you got stuff busted in your ~/.lirc
[03:35] <crazy_bus> I don't understand how volume works.  The button I get in irw is 73 0 KEY_VOLUMEUP event6.  But in the mythtv config file it's set to button = VOL_UP
[03:35] <crazy_bus> how = why
[04:13] <cmdln> crazy_bus: where in myth is it not working
[04:13] <cmdln> im still working on getting my remote working again .... it did not seem to be working but I was only testing in the main menu
[04:13] <cmdln> it actually works while watching tv
[04:14] <crazy_bus> cmdln: everywhere.  Volume works.  I was able to get mute and channel changing for a few minutes but I broke that
[04:14] <crazy_bus> * I'm mainly trying while watching tv
[04:38] <crazy_bus> cmdln: can I have your mythtv lirc file to try?
[04:38] <cmdln> have you used irrecord?
[04:40] <crazy_bus> cmdln: no, I could never get that or readmade settings to work.  The zeroconf one works however
[04:41] <cmdln> you need to have the right lircd for your remotes
[04:42] <crazy_bus> cmdln: but irw is reporting all the correct buttons
[04:42] <cmdln> ah
[04:42] <cmdln> forgot
[04:42] <cmdln> I stripped out everything from my ~/.lirc/mythtv config
[04:42] <cmdln> and just got down to up down left right
[04:43] <cmdln> made sure that the lables match whats in the lircd
[04:43] <cmdln> like Up instead of up
[04:43] <cmdln> and took out the remote lines as well
[04:43] <cmdln> thats how I got it partially working in live tv
[04:45] <crazy_bus> cmdln:  how do you get a full mythtv config.  Mine is empty except for a few comments at the top
[04:47] <cmdln> i installed mythbuntu
[04:47] <cmdln> so it was there
[04:47] <crazy_bus> cmdln: or can you pastebin your so I can check it against the small one I made
[04:47] <cmdln> i dont have network access to mine
[04:49] <crazy_bus> cmdln: this look right?  http://www.pastebin.ca/1015386
[04:50] <cmdln> repeat2?
[04:50] <cmdln> mine are all repeat -
[04:50] <cmdln> 0
[04:52] <crazy_bus> cmdln: so I put::    repeat = 0
[04:53] <cmdln> looks right
[04:55] <crazy_bus> cmdln:  pause doesn't work in livetv with that :(  Though I got channel up/down working with that method
[04:57] <cmdln> is the pause key defined in lircd?
[04:57] <cmdln> it gives the right thing back with irw?
[04:58] <crazy_bus> it gives this in irw:  77 0 KEY_PAUSE event6
[04:59] <cmdln> try changing Pause to KEY_PAUSE
[05:01] <foxbuntu> cmdln, crazy_bus evening you guys sound like you could use a lirc expert :)
[05:01] <cmdln> yehap
[05:01] <crazy_bus> ta cmdln.  I forgot to add that.  It works now
[05:01] <cmdln> me too
[05:01] <cmdln> cool
[05:02] <cmdln> right now im trying to get my serial blaster to work
[05:02] <cmdln> heh i had all this working for about 3 years
[05:02] <cmdln> and just never updated or paid any attention to anything
[05:03] <foxbuntu> ouch
[05:03] <foxbuntu> lots of changes in 3 years
[05:03] <cmdln> yeh
[05:03] <cmdln> heh actually prolly more like 4 years
[05:03] <cmdln> stupid irsend
[05:04] <cmdln> cant seem to get it to support sending
[05:04] <foxbuntu> ok....so fill me in on where your at, your issue(s), what you have tried
[05:04] <cmdln> i must be missing something
[05:04] <cmdln> oh mmmm, im poking around with irsend, fiddled with the serial stuff
[05:04] <foxbuntu> you should be able to setup a serial blaster from MCC
[05:05] <cmdln> mmm
[05:06] <cmdln> yeh thats checked
[05:06] <cmdln> but irsend keeps sayding hardware does not support sending
[05:06] <foxbuntu> what hardware is it?
[05:06] <foxbuntu> and do you have more than 1 serial port?
[05:07] <cmdln> yes and ive tried connecting to both
[05:07] <cmdln> some old via board
[05:07] <foxbuntu> well you need restart lirc after you switch ports
[05:08] <cmdln> yeh
[05:08] <cmdln> been doing that
[05:09] <foxbuntu> k
[05:09] <foxbuntu> hmm
[05:09] <foxbuntu> what are you using as an ir blaster?
[05:10] <cmdln> uh i think i bought it off irblaster.info when that guy first started making them
[05:10] <foxbuntu> k
[05:10] <foxbuntu> are you using any kind of serial cable between the blaster and machine?
[05:11] <cmdln> it is a serial cable
[05:11] <cmdln> but no extension if thats what your talking about
[05:11] <foxbuntu> k
[05:11] <crazy_bus> foxbuntu: do you have the default mythtv lirc file, so I don't have to look all the commands up myself (I deleted mine when I was trying to make it work)
[05:12] <foxbuntu> crazy_bus, what do you mean 'default lirc commands'?
[05:13] <crazy_bus> the file ~/.lirc/mythtv (the keybindings like Up, P, etc)
[05:14] <foxbuntu> oh you need the mythtv keys
[05:14] <foxbuntu> the application keys
[05:15] <foxbuntu> crazy_bus, do you have a working /etc/lircd.conf in place?
[05:15] <foxbuntu> cmdln, im thinking over it
[05:16] <crazy_bus> foxbuntu: no, I tried with irrecord and premade .conf files but none worked.  However the zeroconf package made irw work
[05:16] <cmdln>  cool im fiddeling in bios now
[05:16] <cmdln> hehe
[05:16] <crazy_bus> foxbuntu: *zeroconf = inputlircd
[05:16] <foxbuntu> crazy_bus, did you restart mythfrontend after you made changes?
[05:21] <foxbuntu> whoops
[05:21] <foxbuntu> stupid laptops battery
[05:21] <cmdln> heh
[05:21] <foxbuntu> crazy_bus, what remote do you have?
[05:22] <crazy_bus> foxbuntu: the one that plugs into the back of a avermedia dvb't 771
[05:28] <crazy_bus> I've got a few commands working now.
[05:28] <crazy_bus> can anyone tell me why on screen displays flicker for me?
[05:28] <cmdln> mmm so run with debug, could not connect to socket, no sufh file or directory, thats better
[05:29] <foxbuntu> cmdln, sounds like progress
[05:30] <foxbuntu> crazy_bus, which lirc module are you using?
[05:30] <foxbuntu> ...for the remote...
[05:30] <cmdln> assume its talking about /dev/ttyS0? but im running irsend as root, and root has write permissions
[05:30] <foxbuntu> cmdln, dont run irsend as root
[05:31] <foxbuntu> ...well you shouldnt at least
[05:31] <cmdln> im just doing it for testing
[05:31] <crazy_bus> foxbuntu: what do you mean?
[05:32] <foxbuntu> crazy_bus, open up MCC and we will start from there
[05:33] <crazy_bus> foxbuntu: but the remote is now working.  I just have to type in what commands I want and what button it corresponds to
[05:34] <foxbuntu> crazy_bus, well I thought you said your lircd.conf wasnt working
[05:35] <foxbuntu> the few keys you have assigned in the ~/.lirc/mythtv work though?
[05:35] <crazy_bus> foxbuntu: setting it up via irrecord or a preset doesn't.  Using a different program inputlirc makes it work without setting anything up
[05:36] <cmdln> HA
[05:36] <cmdln> eat that
[05:36] <cmdln> auto configuration is great
[05:36] <cmdln> when it work
[05:37] <cmdln> and when it does not its a total pita
[05:37] <cmdln> damn
[05:37] <cmdln> well it didnt error once :)
[05:40] <cmdln> well im breaking stuff so i must be getting closer
[05:42] <crazy_bus> I just wish I had a template so I didn't have to write the mythtv lirc config file from scratch
[05:42] <foxbuntu> crazy_bus, pastebin your lircd.conf and hardware.conf
[05:43] <crazy_bus> foxbuntu: why.  The remote works well enough.  Thanks for the offer
[05:44] <foxbuntu> crazy_bus, ok...I must be confused or tired guess your issue is fixed
[05:44] <foxbuntu> at any rate...
[05:45] <crazy_bus> my issue now is why are all On screen displays flickering
[05:45] <crazy_bus> *are
[05:47] <cmdln> could not get file information for /dev/lirc
[05:48] <cmdln> foxbuntu: where is that controlled?
[05:48] <cmdln> I want to say /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[05:48] <cmdln> but modifying the serial section there seems to have noo effect
[05:51] <foxbuntu> crazy_bus, try switching from QT to OpenGL as a painter if you havent already
[05:51] <foxbuntu> cmdln, thats where it should be controlled
[05:55] <cmdln> mmm
[05:56] <cmdln> ok i guess that file is doing something
[05:57] <cmdln> i must be mis-reading the error
[05:57] <foxbuntu> :)
[06:00] <cmdln> ooop
[06:00] <cmdln> postage just went up a penny
[06:36] <crazy_bus> do I update with mythfilldatabase?  i.e. to download new listings?
[06:38] <crazy_bus> or do I have to run tv_grab_au manually?
[06:53] <crazy_bus> cmdln: do you know how to delete individual channels in setup?
[06:55] <_taz_> hmmm, anyone able to get the control center to set up a IRBlaster and a IR remote?
[07:45] <erpo> When I hold down the volume up/down keys, the volume only changes one increment. It's like there's no "key repeat" set. How can I fix this?
[07:45] <erpo> *I am referring to the volume up/down keys on my remote.
[07:47] <crazy_bus> erpo: go to ~.lirc/mythtv  look for the volume settings and change repeat to whatever you like e.g. repeat = 4
[07:58] <erpo> crazy_bus: Thanks! That did it. I was staring at /etc/lirc/lircmd.conf, but that wasn't getting me anywhere.
[08:00] <erpo> crazy_bus: Incidentally, that also answers my other question of how to customize key mappings.
[08:05] <crazy_bus> erpo: is there any chance you can pastebin the ~.lirc/mythtv file for me at www.pastebin.ca  I accidently deleted mine and have only added a quarter of the commands back manually
[08:05] <erpo> sure :)
[08:08] <erpo> of course, I have a MCE remote.
[08:08] <erpo> http://pastebin.ca/1015479
[08:10] <erpo> I have to take off. Thanks for your help!
[09:35] <Balachmar> Hi, I'm trying to install mythbuntu 8.04 but when it says loading kernel it actually reboots
[09:35] <Balachmar> And the live environment won't start either
[09:53] <Balachmar_> Hi, I'm trying to install mythbuntu 8.04 but when it says loading kernel it actually reboots
[09:53] <Balachmar> Ooh, this is actually the same chatroom as at freenode, sorry for the spamming...
[10:03] <Balachmar_> ok vmlinuz has a different md5sum than in the txt file
[11:18] <Balachmar_> Now I am stuck at another place
[11:19] <Balachmar_> At the prepare partitions menu, there is nothing in the table
[11:19] <Balachmar_> nor can I create new partitions, it doesn't seem to have recognized my hard disk
[11:31] <Balachmar_> ok, so I read on the forum that someone else also has a sata drive that doesn;t show up...
[11:39] <Balachmar_> the sda etc do show up in dmesg
[11:53] <Balachmar_> aha, the other sd* things in the dmesg are the memory card readers
[11:53] <Balachmar_> So the hard disk itself doesn't show up anywhere
[13:52] <cosmic> hi @ all
[13:55] <cosmic> I cannot watch LiveTV anymore , heres the Error log : http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/212976/
[13:55] <cosmic> I cannot find this entry in the DB
[13:57] <cosmic> I fixed it , thx
[13:57] <laga> how? :)
[13:58] <cosmic> Master Backend had : Permissions denied on RECORDINGS - DIR
[13:58] <cosmic> ;)
[13:58] <cosmic> to much beer yesterday lol
[13:59] <cosmic> but hey , thats a strange error message for the client , isnt it ?
[13:59] <laga> sure
[14:00] <cosmic> where i you from laga ?
[14:00] <cosmic> are you mythbuntu devel ?
[14:00] <cosmic> i see very often in irc
[14:00] <laga> yeah, i'm one of the mythbuntu devs
[14:00] <laga> i'm from germany
[14:01] <cosmic> nices , what do you develop for mythbuntu
[14:01] <laga> i help with packaging, the control centre, the diskless stuff..
[14:01] <cosmic> where from germany? i am from frankfurt
[14:01] <cosmic> cool
[14:01] <laga> i'm from a quaint little town in the saarland ;)
[14:02] <cosmic> oh i see
[14:03] <laga> i just wish the diskless tuff was working for everyone ;) some odd bugs keep happening
[14:03] <cosmic> how can you invest so much time in devel , dont you work ?
[14:03] <laga> haha
[14:03] <laga> i'm a student :)
[14:03] <cosmic> ;)
[14:03] <cosmic> oh i see
[14:04] <cosmic> how does dis diskless stuff work ? TFTP ? + PXE , something like this ?
[14:04] <laga> right now i'm not spending much time on development, mostly bug triaging and stuff. the weather is too nice.
[14:04] <cosmic> yes damn right , the weather is super in Frankfurt too
[14:05] <laga> yeah, it can use PXE to get the kernel, but you can also use a USB pen drive to boot the client
[14:05] <Balachmar_> here in the netherlands it is fine as well
[14:05] <Balachmar_> although I still haven't fixed my issues with mythbuntu
[14:05] <cosmic> but i am working on an mythbuntu client ,to get him work on a (CEleron 500 MHz , 192 MB RAM and 20 G Disk) ;)
[14:05] <laga> i made it flexible with regards to booting beecause not everyone wants to make intrusive changes to their network
[14:05] <laga> cosmic: 192MB isn't a lot ;)
[14:05] <Balachmar_> I can't install because my sata disk isn't recognized
[14:06] <laga> Balachmar_: is it detected in the BIOS?
[14:06] <cosmic> laga i know , but i give it a try anyway
[14:06] <Balachmar_> laga: yes, I can still boot to my ubuntu install
[14:06] <cosmic> time to kill some services ;)
[14:06] <Balachmar_> and it is detected in the bios
[14:06] <laga> Balachmar_: what ubuntu install? 7.10?
[14:07] <Balachmar_> the only sdx devices detected from mythbuntu install are the memory card readers
[14:07] <Balachmar_> 7.04
[14:07] <laga> cosmic: /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common can save you lots of memory. up to 32M i believe
[14:07] <laga> Balachmar_: does it work from the 8.04 alternate disk?
[14:07] <cosmic> wich SATA - Mode ? , pure ore SATA/IDE ?
[14:07] <cosmic> laga , thanks for the hint
[14:07] <Balachmar_> just to be sure, the 7.04 ubuntu install is already on the hd
[14:08] <Balachmar_> on the bios I could choose from ide, AHCI and raid, and I choose ide
[14:08] <laga> try AHCI instead?
[14:08] <cosmic> sounds strange
[14:08] <cosmic> try AHCI
[14:09] <cosmic> omg
[14:09] <laga> that might break any windows installs on that box.
[14:09] <Balachmar_> AHCI didn't work either :D
[14:10] <Balachmar_> doesn't matter since there is no windows install on that box :D
[14:11] <laga> what chipset is that? VIA?
[14:11] <Balachmar_> yes
[14:11] <laga> ok, just wondering. i don't have a fix, i just enjoy bashing VIA ;)
[14:12] <Balachmar_> lol
[14:14] <laga> Balachmar_: i wonder if there's a bug report in launchpad already for your chipset/mother board
[14:16] <laga> i bet it's a problem with libata, maybe you can force it to use the older drivers.. humhumm
[14:18] <laga> maybe it'll work in RAID mode?
[14:18] <Balachmar_> yes, I am reading that in a bug report as well
[14:19] <Balachmar_> unfortunately mythtv has to record something now, that my girlfriend wants to see...
[14:19] <Balachmar_> So I have to wait in order to try it out...
[14:19] <Balachmar_> (Since it will never install within 30 minutes and be working flawlessly then...
[14:19] <laga> heh, true
[14:20] <laga> but booting to check if the hdd is detected might be an option ;)
[14:21] <Balachmar_> true am on it
[14:28] <Balachmar_> nope also doesn't work
[14:29] <laga> maybe you can find out what driver is used in 7.04 and check if it's also available in 8.04
[14:29] <Balachmar_> how would I do that?
[14:30] <laga> the output of dmesg or lsmod might be helpful
[14:34] <Balachmar_> but what am I looking for?
[14:35] <laga> you're probably looking for any driver that claimed your SATA interface ;)
[14:35] <laga> can't be more helpful there, sorry
[14:36] <cosmic_> saw this in my process list: /usr/sbin/system-tools-backends ... whats that ? , does anyone know
[14:38]  * Penfold hrms, ok. time to replace my SCART->composite cable, and see if that's teh cause of me getting no picture
[14:46] <Balachmar_> I see libata 2.20 in dmesg
[14:47] <Balachmar_> and if I grep lsmod for ata: I get ata_generic, libata and scsi_mod
[14:47] <Balachmar_> is that any help?
[15:02] <cosmic_> Wow , its running preety fine , but i had to stop some (maybe) important services @ laga , just fyi
[15:03] <laga> nice. are you using -diskless or just a normal client?
[15:03] <laga> gut
[15:03] <laga> oops
[15:03] <cosmic_> lol
[15:03] <cosmic_> das passiett mir au oft ;)
[15:05] <cosmic_> no i am using , a normal ubutnu 8.04 I386 server install , where i installed mythbuntu - desktop for the packages and changed the default wm to blackbox
[15:05] <cosmic_> not the finest way i know that , but i am linux noob and  DAU in one Person ;)
[15:06] <laga> whatever works for you :)
[15:06] <cosmic_> would you please explain the meaning of : whatever works for you
[15:06] <cosmic_> or just say it in german , plz
[15:07] <laga> cosmic_: sowas wie "wenn's funktioniert ist es gut" ;)
[15:07] <cosmic_> ok
[15:07] <cosmic_> do you think the diskless version would work better ?
[15:07] <cosmic_> i dont think so
[15:08] <laga> no, i was just wondering what you were using
[15:08] <cosmic_> oh i see , but i would prefer an amount of 256 MB , to have it working flew
[15:09] <cosmic_> of RAM
[15:09] <laga> with -diskless, you don't have local swap by default. it'll enable network swap, but only 32M or so
[15:09] <laga> and network swap is slow ;)
[15:09] <cosmic_> i will see if i get 256 MB RAM next week , by the way ... the P3 400Mhz is peforming better than an Celeron 5XX MHz , fyi
[15:10] <cosmic_> laga: network swap is shit for a client with very low resources for multimeda
[15:10] <laga> p3 400? i never could get really smooth playback out of my p3 450. maybe i should have tried harder ;)
[15:11] <cosmic_> it works fine
[15:11] <cosmic_> mplayer with Videos maped over smbfs , ROCK HARD !!!
[15:11] <laga> ah, i was talking about mythtv itself
[15:12] <cosmic_> and Live TV rocks too , but it stucks a little bit after PAUSE and at the start
[15:12] <cosmic_> the same for playing recordings withc are streamed by the master
[15:12] <cosmic_> the Internal player uses damn much resources
[15:12] <cosmic_> for an SUPER LOW END CLIENT
[15:12] <cosmic_> :)
[15:13] <cosmic_> but its enough for my bedroom , cause of the boards size and the case size
[15:13] <laga> yup. i tried with XvMC back then and it was OK, but not as smooth as i'd have liked it to be. might have been a bad deinterlacer, though.
[15:13] <laga> how big is it?
[15:14] <cosmic_> 34 cm tief 8cm hoch 27 breit
[15:14] <cosmic_> sorry for no translation but i dont now inches and stuff
[15:15] <laga> metric units work just as fine. imperial units are silly ;)
[15:15] <laga> what PC is that? some thin client?
[15:15] <cosmic_> :)
[15:15] <cosmic_> lol
[15:15] <cosmic_> yap
[15:15] <laga> fujitsu siemens?
[15:15] <cosmic_> from Masxdata, i bought it by ebay for 30 Euros
[15:16] <cosmic_> its an Asus Board A2N or something like that
[15:16] <cosmic_> youll get this package at ebay.de
[15:16] <laga> nice. i'Ve got this in my bedroom: http://www.t-online.de/international/pressebilder/t_online_s100_remote.jpg
[15:17] <cosmic_> Working with Myth ??
[15:18] <laga> yeah. it's a normal computer. celeron 733, wlan, fanless, can be powered on using the remote..
[15:18] <cosmic_> i read in the FreeX that it is possible to install unix/linux on it or on one of these
[15:18] <laga> but only 128M RAM, which sucks.
[15:18] <laga> i still run feisty on it.
[15:18] <cosmic_> cool
[15:18] <cosmic_> is it working in a flew ( flüssig)
[15:18] <cosmic_> ??
[15:19] <laga> you can get them for 30€ including a router on ebay these days. i've been wondering about getting more, but i've got enough crap already :)
[15:19] <cosmic_> lol
[15:19] <laga> yeah, it's quite fluent. if you use the iulius theme ;)
[15:19] <cosmic_> we all have enough CRAP , but we NEEED more !!!
[15:19] <cosmic_> my ex wife hated me for that löl
[15:20] <cosmic_> but it only works as a client , right ?
[15:20] <laga> one of the biggest downsides is that you'll need a binary driver from intel to enable the tv-out. :(
[15:20] <sabhain> laga, how does that compare to the MediaMVP?
[15:20] <cosmic_> oh
[15:20] <cosmic_> i see
[15:20] <laga> some of them have a PCI slot, but i hear it's not that reliable. and the box isn'T high enough to fit a big PCI card without some modding. and only 128M RAM..
[15:21] <laga> sabhain: it's a real x86 box, not sure if you can compare something ;)
[15:21] <Balachmar_> Is there a way to add a boot option when I am running the installer of mythbuntu?
[15:22] <Balachmar_> Because maybe using the boot option all_generic_ide might help
[15:22] <cosmic_> laga:  whats with HDD ?  compact flash ?
[15:22] <laga> cosmic_: i'm using an USB pen drive.
[15:23] <laga> Balachmar_: yeah. just add it when booting the live disk after the -- in the boot options
[15:23] <laga> and it should pick that up for regular boots, too
[15:23] <Balachmar_> ok, then I will try that later
[15:23] <sabhain> laga, so you've just installed mythbuntu directly on that?
[15:24] <laga> sabhain: yes. not "directly", i debootstrapped it manually, but a regular install using the alternate disk should work just as well.
[15:24] <laga> i'm also using a different wlan NIC. and i added the IEGD driver to get tv-out.
[15:24] <cosmic_> IEGD ?
[15:25] <laga> intel embedded graphics driver
[15:25] <laga> or something like that
[15:25] <sabhain> hmmm .. what happens if you try to play an HD recording?
[15:25] <cosmic_> oh ok
[15:25] <sabhain> or an ISO video file?
[15:25] <laga> sabhain: it'll probably explode.
[15:25] <laga> sabhain: a dvd rip ought to work just fine.
[15:25] <laga> i used to stream dvds from my desktop to my bed room using VLC.
[15:27] <sabhain> and that's an S100?  Can't seem to find on ebay ... the MediaMVP works ok .. but I don't think it will pull down from the video folder .. upside is that the mvpmc install & boot was simple.  But I haven't played much with it yet.
[15:28] <laga> i was always going to bed a mediamvp, but it just isn't cheap enough
[15:28] <laga> sabhain: they're mostly sold in germany.
[15:28] <laga> t-online used to give them away as IPTV set top boxes
[15:32] <cosmic_> OK Guys now i have killed sshd as well and it runs realy good , just FYI
[15:33] <laga> eeek. no sshd is scary ;)
[15:33] <cosmic_> löl
[15:33] <laga> unless you've got a keyboard ;)
[15:34] <cosmic_> i have an remote Keyboard(CRAP) for Extremas , now i have to get monit work with mythfrontend ...
[15:34] <cosmic_> :)
[15:34] <cosmic_> what is the dbus dameon ?????
[15:34] <cosmic_> do i need that ? doent understand the english subscribe
[15:35] <laga> it's used for inter-process communication
[15:35] <laga> eg if you tell your kde/gnome to shut down, it'll hand off that message to HAL over dbus
[15:35] <cosmic_> oh ok
[16:20] <Balachmar> Hi, just for future reference: adding all_generic_ide to the boot options fixes the issue of the sata drives that were not recognized
[16:21] <Balachmar> So tonight I will go and install the latest and greatest mythbuntu version!
[16:39] <cosmic_> for what do i need myth-status
[18:15] <cosmic_> OK Guys , i dont know if it is from interest for you , but i have found a combination to let al LOW Resource Client work in a flew with mytfrontend  as my bedroom Client (in my Case) , its a : Pentium III 600 Mhz with round about 192 MB RAM and    >= 20 GB HDD ......
[18:16] <cosmic_> i will trie
[18:17] <cosmic_> try with xfce , now :)
[18:22] <cosmic_> Ah , the best thing .... You dont have to stop any server , only gnome screensaver :)
[18:22] <cosmic_> server = service
[18:25] <laga> Balachmar: congrats.
[18:25] <laga> cosmic_: myth-status writes the status of your pending recordings to your MOTD
[18:25] <laga> or whatever is displayed when you log in ;)
[18:27] <ille> laga: saw your post on dev list about segfault in /lib/ld-linux.so.2 looks like the common thingie is ATI driver
[18:29] <laga> ille: fglrx or radeon?
[18:33] <ille> laga, radeon
[18:33] <laga> i use radeon, too, and i don't get crashes. but i use my own packages.
[18:33] <laga> hum.
[18:34] <laga> i'm very interested in getting this fixed, but i'm not sure where to start.
[18:34] <ille> laga, I'm compiling now
[18:34] <laga> great
[18:34] <Penfold> Woo. Progress :) Swapped cables from composite to SVideo input on PVR 150. ...
[18:34] <Penfold> I have a picture...
[18:34] <Penfold> but it's black and white :(
[18:34] <ille> laga, 0.21-fixes , but should i go SVN?
[18:35] <laga> ille: use -fixes. SVN is too scary right now, for me at least
[18:35] <ille> laga, ok
[18:35] <Penfold> is this likely to still be a cable issue? or is there a v4lc-ctl option I missed
[18:36] <cosmic_> laga , thanks for this information  :)
[18:36] <laga> cosmic_: what information? ;)
[18:37] <cosmic_> for myth-status , dude
[18:37] <cosmic_> ;)
[18:37] <laga> ah
[18:37] <laga> <- always confused.
[18:37] <sabhain> cosmic_ what's the graphics for your client?
[18:38] <ille> any1 know what is needed to mount a nfs share in mythbuntu live cd (7.10)
[18:38] <laga> cosmic_: i think i could never overclock my old box high enough to reach 600MHz, so i never tried that
[18:39] <cosmic_> sabhain:  LOL , the graphics is an ATI Rage 4 MB , Onboard
[18:40] <laga> does it have tv-out or do you have a computer monitor in your bed room?
[18:40] <ille> cosmic_, I have a PII 450Mhz running mythbuntu, but that projekt is down since I don't get the wireless driver working in wpa, wep is ok.
[18:40] <cosmic_> oh my failure , I use an 17 " TFT in my bedroom
[18:41] <laga> ah
[18:41] <cosmic_> japp
[18:41] <cosmic_> with TV Out it gets hard
[18:41] <laga> cosmic_: regarding the s100: a friend of mine had problems getting it to run nicely at high resolutions over the VGA-out, so buyer beware ;)
[18:41] <laga> cosmic_: how much power does your frontend use?
[18:41] <cosmic_> ille:  cool , but i tried without offering any services , to make it suitable for anyone
[18:42] <cosmic_> oha
[18:42] <cosmic_> laga
[18:42] <cosmic_> ille witch amount of ram ?
[18:43] <ille> cosmic_, alot IIRC around 400mb 256+128mb
[18:43] <cosmic_> oh ok
[18:46] <cosmic_> I think a PIII 500 -600 + >=256 MB of RAM schould work propably good for a normal Mythbuntu 8.04(CLient) Instalation
[18:47] <laga> depends on your needs regarding deinterlacing :)
[18:48] <laga> i use a rather expensive deinterlacer (yadif2x oder greedyh2x) and i like my core 2 duo ;)
[18:48] <cosmic_> löl
[18:48] <cosmic_> your right
[18:49] <cosmic_> for my living room , but not for my bedroom in my oppinion
[18:49] <laga> true
[18:49] <laga> i rarely watch tv in the bed room anyways
[18:49] <cosmic_> But YEAH , I like my Core 2 duo , too
[18:49] <cosmic_> oh ok
[18:49] <ille> laga: I think I skip compiling the plugins, and removes al i /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins
[18:50] <cosmic_> i will go for something to eat , until later
[18:50] <laga> ille: sudo aptitude remove mythplugins ;)
[18:50] <laga> i hope that'll also remove the dependencies
[18:51] <ille> better that way
[18:52] <ille> haha, already removed that package yesterday...
[18:52] <cosmic_> i mostly play Console Games , via emulators in my bedroom @ laga  ;)
[18:52] <cosmic_> another , hailt to mythtv ;)
[18:53] <laga> yeah.. i get out the game pad occasionally, too.
[18:53] <laga> zsnes rocks
[18:53] <laga> but i don't play a lot of games either.. maybe during winter again.
[18:53] <laga> damn, the weather is so nice.
[18:55] <ille> nah 3 degrees outside this morning
[18:58] <laga> who gets up in the morning on a bank holiday anyways ;)
[18:59] <ille> no holiday here anymore :(
[19:00] <laga> sad :(
[19:02] <ille> let see if I can get hold of the laptop to test my compiled version.
[20:01] <cosmic_> back again
[20:01] <cosmic_> do ue
[20:01] <cosmic_> do you have zsnes running on 64 bit laga ?
[20:08] <xukun> I,m running mythbuntu 8.04. everything seems to work except that the movie covers are not showing.  I suppose to have .mythvideo in ~.mythbuntu/Mythvideo but I don't have that. Does everybody has this directory?
[20:11] <cosmic_> Konfig -> media -> Video  in frontend there you can decide a directory for your Covers
[20:11] <cosmic_> Config
[20:18] <cosmic_> i have to go to sleep now , have to stand up early , BYE @ ALL
[20:36] <sabhain> xukun, check to make sure that ~.mythbuntu/Mythvideo is writeable ..
[21:19] <ille_> laga: great news, my compilation of myth works!
[21:46] <Penfold> result! working video ;)
[22:39] <laga> ille_: nice. did you talk to sphery?
[22:40] <laga> ille_: ah, you're christian.
[22:41] <laga> ille_: how did you compile mythtv?
[23:33] <ddgoose> o/


[09:55] <Noskcaj> Could someone on the SRU team please look at bug 1308533 and bug 1339911
[19:31] <Wellark> sorry to be late in the game, but:
[19:31] <Wellark> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/share-app/+bug/1360670
[19:31] <Wellark> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libhud-qt/+bug/1360671
[19:33] <Wellark> is it possible to nuke https://launchpad.net/libhud-qt totally off from LP?
[19:33] <Wellark> (I'm the "owner")
[19:35] <Wellark> Mirv: I know you are working...
[19:35] <Wellark> ;)
[20:05] <Mirv> Wellark: bah!
[20:09] <Wellark> Mirv: <3
[20:09] <Mirv> Wellark: nuking projects is a bit hard (maybe some bug against LP would work), but you can add some warning text like I just did to it
[20:10] <Wellark> would be great if you could mark projects abandoned and LP would generate some nice notice about it
[20:11] <Mirv> I marked the branch Abandoned an added that note to https://launchpad.net/libhud-qt, not sure if anything else can be done
[20:12] <Wellark> it's fine


[01:12] <wgrant> wxl: I've freed up the name for you.
[03:54] <wxl> wgrant: thanks a ton!
[11:14] <dehein> Hi i was going through this tutorial http://elementaryos.org/docs/code
[11:14] <dehein> And i tried to package my app up and pushed it to launchpad. Set everything up like in my tutorial. And it fails to build with this log: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/182764221/buildlog.txt.gz
[11:14] <dehein> here is my ppa https://code.launchpad.net/~dehein/+recipe/hello-packaging-daily
[11:16] <wgrant> dehein: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dehein/+junk/hello-packaging/view/head:/debian/changelog is misformatted.
[11:16] <wgrant> Your email address has grown several \ns.
[11:23] <dehein> thanks.
[12:50] <shadeslayer> wgrant: is publishing of binaries in PPA's delayed till all architechtures are built?
[12:52] <cjwatson> No
[12:52] <shadeslayer> aha cool