[04:42] <littlelambda> addy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:42] <rathel_> I just installed Intrepid on my laptop and suspend still doesn't work, anyway I can get it working?
[04:42] <littlelambda> works on debian
[04:43] <pentaside> threeseas: I am running 8.10 and I have a Atheros Wireless Card.  Drivers seem to be working fine, but I can't discover my wireless network.
[04:43] <saxofoner> Hi, I have Windows XP and I had ubuntu 8.04 installed, it's a dual boot, same hard drive.   Anyway, I just installed 8.10 over 8.04, and I get grub error 17 and I can't boot anything!
[04:43] <threeseas> pentaside: start up a terminal and run "top" and "k" the PID of it and then "q"uit top and run NetworkManager
[04:43] <rinovan-net> pentaside: iwconfig
[04:43] <threeseas> pentaside: start up a terminal and run "top" and "k" the PID of NetworkManager
[04:44] <saxofoner> I'm running from the livecd now, is there anyway I can fix grub?
[04:44] <Remog> hello, just installed 8.10 on an hp dv9000 series laptop with the nvidia 8600m chipset, it doesnt seem to want to load the restricted driver. when i click activate it thinks about it and then doesn't do anything.
[04:44] <Remog> (the restricted nvidia driver)
[04:45] <pentaside> rinovan-net: "no wireless extensions"
[04:45] <sat_e_llite> hello? i have a problem with the cursor and it's not related to my hardware.
[04:45] <ltgg0524> started 8.10 distro upgrade yesterday morning and still grinding away at about 5K B/sec. Have the CD ... is there not a way to upgrade with it?
[04:46] <Remog> any insight?
[04:46] <favro> sat_e_llite: what is in the xorg.conf for the muse?
[04:46] <sat_e_llite> i dont know
[04:46] <favro> *mouse
[04:47] <sat_e_llite> how do I know?
[04:47] <sat_e_llite> i cant navigate any where, i cant even sign im
[04:47] <ubuntu__> Im littlelambda: xchat just crashed. anywhere i can boot the littlelambda nick off so i can take it again?
[04:47] <ekontsevoy> ltgg0524: you can clean up your sources in /etc/apt/sources.list and add your CD in there, then fire up dist-upgrade and see what happens.
[04:47] <favro> sat_e_llite: have a look - /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:47] <threeseas> pentaside: from NetworkManager right click the icon and edit connections
[04:47] <sat_e_llite> how? The mouse moves it self
[04:47] <sat_e_llite> i cant control it
[04:47] <Addy> littlelambda: alright finished configuring
[04:48] <ekontsevoy> Anyone here saw Ubuntu 8.10 installed on Dell Latitude E6500?
[04:48] <littlelambda> nevermind all, it didnt crash
[04:48] <william__> hey, if anyone is available for help i would appreciate it
[04:48] <littlelambda> addy: still not able to select the resolution you want?
[04:48] <pentaside> threeseas: I'm with ya...
[04:48] <rathel_> I just installed Intrepid on my laptop and suspend still doesn't work, it never wakes up, anyway I can get it working?
[04:48] <Addy> littlelambda: I don't have to restart X?
[04:48] <littlelambda> billygalbreath: sorry, i got distracted
[04:48] <william__> i have a good system, athlon 64 and 2 gigs of ram
[04:48] <littlelambda> littlelambda: might be an idea :)
[04:48] <william__> all of a sudden, my xubuntu is super laggy and running slow
[04:49] <william__> which doesnt make sense
[04:49] <william__> any tips??
[04:49] <Addy> littlelambda: and no, the selectable resolutions are still the same
[04:49] <Flannel> !enter | william__
[04:49] <littlelambda> billygalbreath: it must be somewhere in /etc/event.d
[04:49] <ekontsevoy> william__: look into your syslog for any error/warnings.
[04:49] <william__> sorry
[04:49] <littlelambda> billygalbreath: im guessing anyhow. maybe tty1?
[04:49] <sat_e_llite> i cant click anywhere so I'm not using ubuntu
[04:49] <threeseas> pentaside: I don't know what to tell you to enter but there is another command similiar to iwconfig that can help you
[04:49] <sat_e_llite> at the moment
[04:50] <igors> how to "wake up" after hibernate?
[04:50] <william__> is anyone available to help me with a Xubuntu related problem??
[04:50] <pentaside> rinovan-net: "no wireless extensions"
[04:50] <littlelambda> addy: well, if your xorg.conf contains the resolution and reconfigure didnt work, im out of ideas
[04:50] <littlelambda> back to the floor, im afraid.
[04:50] <Addy> :(
[04:50] <Outlander> just a quick question, what's the most supported (ie, zero effort) Wireless-N USB nic to purchase?
[04:50] <ekontsevoy> william__: I thought I was helping you
[04:51] <Addy> I suppose I'll stick with 7.04 and fix my wireless
[04:51] <billygalbreath> sat_e_llite, if graphical dont work, then go to tty1 CTRL+ALT+F1
[04:51] <sat_e_llite> then?
[04:51] <favro> sat_e_llite: it'll be hard to track down the issue - you can boot into ubuntu then do   ctrl+alt+F2   and login to work from virtual terminal
[04:51] <GodfatherofEire1> n8tuser, you still here?
[04:51] <sat_e_llite> ok then?
[04:51] <ltgg0524> ekontsevoy: thanks, but as a newbie, I don't know how to do this: found info to upgrade with alternate CD, but don't have that one.
[04:52] <Baide> hey guys i have a quick question not neccesarily pertaining to ubuntu
[04:52] <favro> sat_e_llite: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what is in the section for the mouse
[04:52] <Baide> do you know of any online feedreaders that offer some sort of instant popup notification?
[04:52] <sat_e_llite> ok i'll write that up
[04:52] <sat_e_llite> write nano as well?
[04:52] <saxofoner> how do you list your partitions and their locations?:
[04:52] <devil_> mukhlis where do u come from?
[04:53] <ekontsevoy> ltgg0524: I'm on a Mac right now, but there is a UI for that: go to Synaptic source manager (or something like that) and find "Software sources". There you should be able to disable everyhing and add your CD. Then do "check for updates".
[04:53] <favro> sat_e_llite: nano is an editor like gedit or notepad
[04:53] <sat_e_llite> ok i'll boot into ubuntu soon, i'm on windos
[04:53] <favro> sat_e_llite: so yes write nano
[04:53] <sat_e_llite> i'm writing all that up in a piece of paper
[04:53] <littlelambda> well, night all
[04:54] <sat_e_llite> all right see you soon! ima boot into ubuntu
[04:54] <favro> luck
[04:55] <Remog> anyone had issues in 8.10 with the 173 or 177 restricted nvidia driver not starting?
[04:55] <Outlander> what's the most supported (ie, zero effort) Wireless-N USB nic to purchase for use with Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[04:55] <billygalbreath> Remog, i belive there are known issues with 8.10 and nvidia/ati drivers
[04:55] <Remog> ok
[04:55] <rinovan-net> pentaside: try lspci
[04:56] <billygalbreath> Outlander, i belive any of them with XP drivers using ndiswrapper would work
[04:56] <saxofoner> I'm trying to fix grub, but there's no /boot/grub directory after fresh install.  Anybody can has help for me?
[04:56] <ltgg0524> ekontsevoy: think at this point I will just wait out the next day, and never do a network upgrade again.
[04:56] <frybye> hi - I have used partimage to backup to a separate partition that gets mounted to /media/disk when I double-click on it. I don't seem to be able to delete the old backups - the files are owned by "root" and marked with an orange "X" - how to access/delete the old ones??
[04:56] <rdw200169> Outlander: http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/
[04:56] <TheTinman> anyoone out there got a new netbook meso
[04:57] <Remog> will keep an eye out for fixes then, not a critical issue, am just happy that my broadcom Wifi chipset is finally supported
[04:57] <billygalbreath> saxofoner, apt-get install grub; install-grub; grub-update
[04:57] <Kumo> Okay, fresh reinstall of Intrepid and I appear to be back in business....
[04:57] <saxofoner> billygalbreath: why wouldn't it be there after a fresh install?  It has to BE there, I'm getting grub error 17 on boot
[04:57] <Wintervenom> Does Ubuntu have a font available that, in Arch Linux, is named Clean?
[04:58] <arooni> crontabBigArooni ~: crontab -e  =>  crontabs/chasetoys: Permission denied  ... but i'm currently logged in as chasetoys... whats wrong?
[04:58]  * Outlander reads scrollback
[04:58] <Outlander> Thanks people! :) I'll go and read some stuff now
[04:58] <rdw200169> Outlander: http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/browse/search?offset=0&category=25&manufacturer=&os=&order-by=rating-desc&keywords=
[04:58] <ekontsevoy> ltgg0524: Actually, good move! I never do an upgarde after about a month. First, the servers aren't overloaded. Second, some bugs are sorted out and fixed.
[04:59] <Gods_gift> hi there
[04:59] <Gods_gift> why i cant install gcc
[04:59] <ekontsevoy> Last time I did a network upgrade I did it over SSH and it took about 1m 20 seconds (very fast connection).
[04:59] <Gods_gift> can anyone tell me
[04:59] <open_sauce> Hi, need some assistance, internet access works automatically on the ibex livecd but once I install the system, I cannot get internet access
[04:59] <mabus> whenever I set my location to canada during install, I have to change the sources.lst to remove the ca. from the urls as the canadian mirrors are unbelievably slow. And I always get errors during apt-get update as it tries to fetch the 'translation' to canadian english. how can I stop this error? I'm willing to change my language of the system to en-US, but if I set my location to the united states during the install, it doesn't give my timezone as an op
[04:59] <cpe-eagle> REGISTER mreyes673937<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:00] <murlidhar> why is that md5 hash doesn't verify an iso file and transmission verifies it ?
[05:00] <billygalbreath> saxofoner, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[05:00] <gaintsura> good job cpe-eagle
[05:00] <shawn__> my flash plugin is totally screwed. its installed. and so is firefox, but firefox simply wont use the flash plugin. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?
[05:00] <cpe-eagle> well change that LOL, what did I do wrong
[05:00] <unr3a1> !clone
[05:00] <rinovan-net> i install ccl on ubuntu daper but error:libfox1.6 ?
[05:00] <billygalbreath> shawn__, did you symlink the plugin to your firefox plugins directory?
[05:01] <murlidhar> i have download ubuntu-alternate from torrent and md5sum doesn't verify where as transmission client verifies it
[05:01] <shawn__> billygalbreath: no
[05:01] <sat_e_llite> hello
[05:01] <billybigrigger> mabus, just select your location as US
[05:01] <runpain2> Stage3
[05:01] <billybigrigger> mabus, i find ca servers too slow aswell
[05:01] <sat_e_llite> about my cursor problem
[05:01] <saxofoner> billygalbreath: fdisk -lu gives me "cannot open /proc/partitions"
[05:02] <stage3> runpain2 what happened?
[05:02] <sat_e_llite> I powered down Windows, properly. Booted Ubuntu and the cursor fixes it self. I can't restart or shut down in ubuntu because the cursor moved all over the place.
[05:02] <bitwiseshiftleft> hey, can ubuntu be used to set up a networked audio player?
[05:02] <shawn__> billygalbreath: how do i do this? and will it wsolve my problem?
[05:03] <ce_mirna> ae
[05:03] <Outlander> rdw200169: thanks for that
[05:03] <open_sauce> Hi, need some assistance, internet access works automatically on the ibex livecd but once I install the system, I cannot get internet access
[05:03] <Tyrath> how do I install spidermonkey on ibex?
[05:03] <mabus> billybigrigger: then I can't select my timezone
[05:03] <sat_e_llite> ah, it moves on it's own again
[05:03] <prince_jammys> bitwiseshiftleft: probably with vlc , if you mean a server that streams audio over your network
[05:03] <frybye> Pse help with this problem:- http://paste.ubuntu.com/66045/
[05:03] <Outlander> ok well let me put it another way I guess, is anyone using a wireless-n usb nic with their ubuntu, if so what model/make ?
[05:03] <mabus> billybigrigger: I live in nova scotia, AST
[05:03] <billygalbreath> shawn__, it will solve your problem, yes. to symlink you need to know where your firefox plugins directory and youre flash plugin are located
[05:03] <sat_e_llite> help me, the mouse moves on it's own again
[05:04] <Tyrath> there's no gmake on ibex so I can't do that
[05:04] <bitwiseshiftleft> prince_jammys: what i mean is a server which is connected to speakers, which lets me command it to play music over the network
[05:04] <Tyrath> - that's the app it says to use
[05:04] <billygalbreath> shawn__, to make a symlink do this: ln -s path/to/firefox/plugin.so /path/to/firefox/plugins/
[05:04] <shawn__> billygalbreath: i dropped the plugin into every directory in my machine that had the word mozilla or firefox in it
[05:04] <Tulimaq> open_sauce, what is your  ifconfig output on installed system ?
[05:04] <bitwiseshiftleft> prince_jammys: preferably with itunes support
[05:04] <sat_e_llite> hello
[05:04] <ariqs> how does cat work, liek why can you do cat this.mdf this.mds > this.iso
[05:04] <frybye> I am looking for a way to delete old image files - but this http://paste.ubuntu.com/66045/ is happening - any tips please?
[05:05] <rathel_> I just installed Intrepid on my laptop and suspend still doesn't work, it never wakes up, anyway I can get it working?
[05:05] <prince_jammys> bitwiseshiftleft: what role do the speakers play? isn't the audio going to be streamed to the clients?
[05:05] <shawn__> billygalbreath: how am i supposed to determine which directory firefox is using? there are so many that have plugins in them
[05:05] <bitwiseshiftleft> prince_jammys: no
[05:05] <Flannel> frybye: .00 vs .000
[05:05] <sat_e_llite> anyone help me? I discussed about the cursor problem here a while ago but it seems to move on it's own again
[05:05] <billygalbreath> frybye, cat simply outputs the contents of something. doing cat this.mdf > this.isosimply sumps the contents of this.mdf into the file this.iso
[05:05] <Tyrath> anyone?
[05:05] <bitwiseshiftleft> prince_jammys: it is going to be played in my living room
[05:05] <prince_jammys> bitwiseshiftleft: ah, you just want to control the other computer remotely
[05:05] <billygalbreath> *sumps/dumps
[05:05] <bitwiseshiftleft> prince_jammys: exactly
[05:06] <billygalbreath> shawn__, try /etc/firefox/plugins - thats the one that works for me
[05:06] <open_sauce> Tulimaq, I cant do ifconfig on installed system, as I have has to reboot back to gutsy to get to irc, however running ifconfig in gutsy gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/66047/ does that help?
[05:06] <frybye> Flannel: ok i c now...
[05:06] <arooni> \\for anyone familair with rdiff-backup can i just run: rdiff-backup --print-statistics /home/chasetoys /media/seagate320/backup/  ..... as a cronjob entry every day and and rdiff-backup will do the right things, i.e. backing up the changes from the last time it synced.  and will i always have the latest files on the backup?
[05:06] <sat_e_llite> Help me anyone?
[05:06] <Flannel> Tyrath: spidermonkey is in the repositries
[05:06] <arooni_____> \\for anyone familair with rdiff-backup can i just run: rdiff-backup --print-statistics /home/chasetoys /media/seagate320/backup/  ..... as a cronjob entry every day and and rdiff-backup will do the right things, i.e. backing up the changes from the last time it synced.  and will i always have the latest files on the backup?
[05:06] <sat_e_llite> how do I open the Terminal using the keyboard?
[05:07] <prince_jammys> bitwiseshiftleft: this can be done with ssh. you run a ssh daemon on the machine that will play the music, and clients can connect to an X session there and open a gui player window, that's really running on the remote machine
[05:07] <billygalbreath> sat_e_llite, CTRL+ALT+F# - # being anything 1 through 6
[05:07] <bitwiseshiftleft> prince_jammys: i was thinking of maybe something more user-friendly.  like, which can be controlled from Mac and Windows
[05:07] <bitwiseshiftleft> prince_jammys: like, over the web
[05:08] <prince_jammys> bitwiseshiftleft: vlc can be controlled over the web
[05:08] <prince_jammys> bitwiseshiftleft: though setting it up may not be a quick breeze
[05:08] <threeseas> pentaside: iwlist
[05:08] <Tulimaq> open_sauce, not really, i mean u shoult check which interface system is using and maybe u need to add dhcp option manually
[05:08] <frybye> thanks folks - especially Flannel... I really should clean my glasses in the mornings hehehe
[05:08] <prince_jammys> bitwiseshiftleft: anyway, that's the extent of my knowledge :)
[05:09] <Zarius> sat_e_llite: If you want a windowed terminal you can try ctrl-f2 & type gnome-terminal.
[05:09] <Tulimaq> open_sauce, on installed system that is
[05:09] <pentaside> threeseas: Ok, and what am I looking for from here?
[05:09] <MarkJones> Does anyone know if its possible to take 3 DVD repositories and copy there contents to folders and add those folders as repository sources so that I can test all the apps on them without having to swap disks 500 times?
[05:10] <Tyrath> Flannel: so you know what its apt install name is?
[05:10] <open_sauce> Tulimaq, when I went to network settings (on ibex), it was trying to use dhcp for eth0.  Odd that the livecd found it fine but the installed system doesnt,  I guess I will have to come back when I can run ibex on one pc, and be in irc on another
[05:10] <thefriendlyghost> ok, hi.. #windows isn't helping, & this isn't really OS specific, please have mercy on me:
[05:10] <Flannel> !info spidermonkey-bin | Tyrath
[05:10] <threeseas> pentaside: try > iwlist wlan0 scan
[05:10] <sat_e_llite> ok my mouse works again, I don't know if it will go haywire again
[05:10] <Flannel> Tyrath: you can search in the terminal with apt-cache search foo, and the GUI ones are all self explanatory for searching
[05:10] <thefriendlyghost> any ideas on my harddrive woes - i've got a drive with partitions that were there yesterday, & now today it shows it as unallocated. can i recover the data?
[05:10] <Tulimaq> open_sauce, ok take ur time
[05:10] <thefriendlyghost> oops, wrong paste
[05:11] <jj_galvez> has anyone been able to install ai32-libs on 8.10amd64?
[05:11] <thefriendlyghost> here: had a computer, with two drives, drive A & drive B. drive A apparently had a virus or a hardware crash, & now in "gparted" shows "unallocated" for all of the disk.  i suspected a virus, so i formatted the windows partition on drive B, but that seemed to format the whole drive (drive B). how, if at all, can i recover the data from these drives?
[05:11] <sat_e_llite> why is the ubuntu forum down?
[05:11] <jj_galvez> has anyone been able to install ia32-libs on 8.10amd64?
[05:11] <saxofoner> if I have one hard drive, sda1, how do I set the grub root to that?
[05:12] <saxofoner> root (sda1,0) didn't work
[05:12] <pentaside> threeseas: Ok wait... I just noticed that the wireless driver is disabled from the last thing I tried.  Let me figure out how to activate this before we go on...
[05:12] <Tyrath> Flannel: thanks. If I'm trying to use spidermonkey for elinks, which one would you say is appropriate?
[05:12] <shawn__> okay. all the plugins are in the correct directories, and still, firefox does not use flash. what gives???
[05:12] <mxweas> Does anyone know if intrepid has broadcoms wl wifi driver built in now?
[05:12] <mxweas> 8.04 didn't have it but I remember seeing somewhere that it was going to be included in 8.10
[05:13] <pjazzy> forums down?
[05:13] <Flannel> pjazzy: #ubuntuforums would be the place to ask
[05:13] <ariqs> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[05:13] <ariqs>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[05:13] <ariqs>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:13] <ariqs>        dmesg | tail  or so
[05:13] <FloodBot3> ariqs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:13] <ziroday> pjazzy: and they work over here
[05:13] <pjazzy> ah thanks flannel
[05:14] <arooni> problem: BigArooni ~: crontab -e  =>  crontabs/chasetoys: Permission denied  ... but i'm currently logged in as chasetoys... whats wrong?
[05:14] <pjazzy> not for me, says service temp unavailable ziroday
[05:15] <_2> what's the command to configure xorg ?
[05:15] <debian> 这是干什么用的？
[05:15] <ziroday> _2: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:15] <ziroday> !cn | debian
[05:15] <billygalbreath> _2, dpkg_reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:16] <_2> ziroday does that still have any affect on X though ?
[05:16] <_2> ant billygalbreath ^
[05:16] <ziroday> _2: but I think that might have changed now with the new xorg magic. You might want to use the xfix utility on the live cd Rescue area
[05:16] <metrick> I just installed Ubuntu 8.10 and i dont know how to install java or enable it[ youtube wont work]
[05:16] <metrick> How do i do this?
[05:16] <ziroday> !java | metrick
[05:16] <ziroday> !flash | metrick
[05:17] <ziroday> metrick: you need flash for youtube
[05:17] <_2> so i have to have a live CD to configure my xorg now ?
[05:17] <ziroday> _2: as I said before, not sure. However I know that is one way
[05:18] <phpstar> okeh this channel is always busy
[05:18] <psycopyro182> I just installed Ubuntu server 8.10 and set everything up. Installed KDE, and now i would like to configure a software Raid. I have 3 physical disks. an 80g sata disk that that has been partitioned to run the os and the swap. I would like to configure Raid 1 on the second remaining disks, both of which are 250g IDE drives. If someone could point me in the direction of a good raid FAQ or how to. That would be greatly appreciated.
[05:18] <prince_jammys> _2: doubtful. try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (back up your current xorg.conf first)
[05:18] <sb118_> how can i execute the following command: "/usr/lib/cups/backend/z600"?
[05:18] <ziroday> _2: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[05:19] <rathel_> I just installed Intrepid on my laptop and suspend still doesn't work, it never wakes up, anyway I can get it working?
[05:19] <_2> k
[05:19] <pentaside> Ok, when I activate my wirelesd driver in "Hardware Drivers", the little icon just turns to a 'refresh' symbol, and at the bottom it says 'This driver was just disabled, but is still in use."  Any help?
[05:19] <ziroday> sb118_: what do you mean by execute?
[05:20] <jzitt> Hi. Trying to upgrade via the Update Manager, I get the message "
[05:20] <jzitt> Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server. " Any clues?
[05:20] <billygalbreath> holy s***!!! i just fixed my problem on my own after 5 hours of playing around! yay!!
[05:20] <sb118_> ziroday: im trying to run step 5 from this link: http://backports.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?s=dc621ccec678e9cd54ac51efb58a7953&t=842493
[05:20] <ToastedMilk> need help installing ati driver on hardy
[05:20] <ziroday> !ati | ToastedMilk
[05:20] <meoblast001> can a default install from the package manager of GCC cross compile to different architectures?
[05:21] <ToastedMilk> I installed the .run driver package for my X1900 series card
[05:21] <Flannel> meoblast001: Yes.  GCC has the ability to cross compile.  You just need to include the files for the other arches.
[05:21] <ToastedMilk> and I don't know what the install command is on terminal
[05:21] <Deflatarat> Anyone got quad head working with ATI 780G integrated card and a separate ATI discrete card?
[05:21] <Deflatarat> HD3200 and HD3470
[05:21] <ziroday> ToastedMilk: did you look at the link I gave you, that is not the "ubuntu way"
[05:21] <prince_jammys> sb118_: you should just be able to type that filename in a terminal and hit enter.
[05:22] <_2> does X -configure    work on ibex to select vesa driver ?
[05:22] <ToastedMilk> Yeah, but I have X1900 series Raedon card
[05:22] <threeseas> pentaside: I'm not sure I can help here as I have come to realize I too don't have wireless ....and apparently I lost my driver with the upgrade
[05:22] <ToastedMilk> I figured the "ubuntu way" didn't support that heavy of a card
[05:22] <ToastedMilk> I
[05:23] <metrick> would i install flash player the same on 8.10 as 8.04?
[05:23] <ToastedMilk> I've been to the binaryhowto and in the list it doesn't include the X1900 series
[05:23] <rdw200169> ToastedMilk: if i'm not mistaken, you where here yesterday too
[05:23] <ziroday> metrick: yes
[05:23] <ToastedMilk> Yeah, but I had Feisty yesterday
[05:23] <ToastedMilk> :/
[05:23] <rdw200169> and ziroday, hello!
[05:23] <ziroday> ToastedMilk: If you have an ATI Radeon 9500 or newer (including thx X-series, such as x300, x1600, etc, an Xpress 200, or a Radeon HD card), then you can use the restricted fglrx drivers: BinaryDriverHowto/ATI.
[05:23] <ziroday> rdw200169: Hi
[05:23] <ToastedMilk> if you're sure...
[05:23] <mxweas> Does anyone know if intrepid has broadcoms wl wifi driver built in now?
[05:24] <mxweas> 8.04 didn't have it but I remember seeing somewhere that it was going to be included in 8.10
[05:24] <MarkJones> Anyone else think Ibex is more buggy than Heron?
[05:24] <ziroday> ToastedMilk: it what is says, plus its the same driver
[05:24] <rdw200169> MarkJones: it makes sense, 8.10 isn't an LTS release
[05:24] <ToastedMilk> No, it's an X1900 series on a 64 bit motherboard..
[05:24] <ziroday> mxweas: nope, you need to use the Hardware Drivers manager
[05:24] <harry__> HI, I am looking for a program that I can put a wallpaper into, and have it tell me a color theme to use while themeing. Any ideas?
[05:24] <MarkJones> oh ok
[05:24] <rdw200169> MarkJones: so they try more cutting edge stuff
[05:24] <ToastedMilk> I haven't seen ANY documentation on that in the community documentation
[05:24] <mxweas> ziroday: ok im going to stay on 8.04 then
[05:24] <komputes> mxweas: did you try going to system > administration > hardware drivers ?
[05:24] <Xpistos> Hey can someone help me install an additional HDD into my ubunbtu server
[05:24] <mxweas> Does anyone know how to get monitor mode to work?
[05:25] <mxweas> komputes: I was just asking before going to intrepid
[05:25] <jzitt> I wonder if the authentication problem is something that I an fix, or if there's a glitch at a server or something.
[05:25] <ziroday> ToastedMilk: just follow these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:25] <rdw200169> MarkJones: but i like it; if they don't try it, we never get to see new features ;)
[05:25] <harry__> is the forum down
[05:25] <_2> ziroday all that link "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config" does is somehow crashes my console
[05:25] <mxweas> cause I can't get monitor mode to work and I figured it might in intrepid if the driver was included
[05:25] <Xpistos> I formated it with GParted, and I got it mounted , but I can't do anything with it
[05:25] <ziroday> _2: eh?
[05:25] <komputes> mxweas: you can try with the live cd without making any changes
[05:25] <Flannel> Xpistos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[05:25] <gub> harry__: yes it is
[05:25] <arooni> this is my /var/spool/cron/crontabs/chasetoys file... permissions:  -rw-r----- 2 root lp 55812 2008-11-01 17:19 chasetoys.  when i try: : crontab -e  =>  crontabs/chasetoys: Permission denied  ... when i'm currently logged in as chasetoys.  so is it as simple matter of changing owner to chasetoys ?
[05:25] <_2> ziroday never mind.
[05:25] <mxweas> komputes: good idea
[05:25] <harry__> ok, thanks gub
[05:25] <Smegzor> Whats the best way to copy my home folder?  When I look at it with Disk Usage Analyser, it reports <2 gigs, but when I try to copy using Nautilus, it says it is copying 35 gigs.
[05:25] <Tyrath> gah, ibex doesn't automatically configure elinks to recognise spidermonkey upon install :(
[05:26] <Xpistos> Flannel: Checking it now
[05:26] <sat_e_llite> are there any surround sound drivers for ubuntu?
[05:26] <ziroday> harry__: gub you might find it best to ask in #ubuntuforums
[05:26] <rdw200169> Smegzor: trust the Disk Usage Analyzer ;)
[05:26] <harry__> yeah, the community cafe of irc
[05:26] <harry__> kthxbai
[05:26] <UserC> My webcam works with Cheese but not with Skype, can anyone help me with that?
[05:26] <gub> heh
[05:26] <rdw200169> Smegzor: nautilus always does wierd things ;)
[05:26] <komputes> mxweas: if you see the broadcom driver in the "hardware driver" ad min panel, chances are you can install a package that makes it work
[05:26] <mxweas> hmm I will check
[05:26] <ToastedMilk> ziroday, went to binarydriverhowto, tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-`mark -r`
[05:27] <mxweas> I have to go start gdm one sec
[05:27] <ziroday> Smegzor: the DUA can be incorrect, as it doesn't take into account individual file sizes, only folder sizes
[05:27] <ToastedMilk> JUST like it said...and get nothing
[05:27] <mxweas> komputes: I didn't see anything in that menu last time I checked, but it might see my driver now that I have it working
[05:27] <rdw200169> Smegzor: it's all a matter of whether or not you have a bunch of symlinks and hardlinks
[05:27] <rdw200169> Smegzor: that kinda futzes things up
[05:27] <prince_jammys> arooni: probably. mine is owned by my user
[05:27] <ziroday> ToastedMilk: so you have installed the driver from Hardware Drivers?
[05:27] <itai-michaelson> can anyone help me and send me the flash player by email or thru a website, adobe's website keeps timing out for me
[05:27] <Smegzor> hmm..  can I copy without including links?  How?
[05:27] <ziroday> !flash | itai-michaelson
[05:28] <ToastedMilk> ziroday, no I don't know how
[05:28] <rdw200169> Smegzor: do you know if you have any?
[05:28] <prince_jammys> arooni: -rw------- 1 peejay crontab 315 Aug  3 01:44 peejay
[05:28] <ziroday> ToastedMilk: go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers and you should see an ati driver there
[05:28] <Smegzor> i didn't create any and I couldn't see any at a glance.
[05:28] <itai-michaelson> ziroday, that doesn't help cause i cant connect to adobe's website
[05:28] <arooni> PriceChild, why did it get set to root:lp ?
[05:29] <prince_jammys> arooni: i have no idea. i don't recall setting those permissions myself
[05:29] <rdw200169> Smegzor: so the way to copy it depends on *how* you wanna coppy
[05:29] <rdw200169> Smegzor: i.e. over network or locally to another partition
[05:29] <UserC> My webcam works with Cheese but not with Skype, can anyone help me with that?
[05:29] <rdw200169> Smegzor: and whether or not you're copying to a unix-style partition or windows-style
[05:29] <mxweas> komputes: nothing shows in the menu
[05:29] <mxweas> no drivers come up at all.
[05:29] <digitalvectorz> lol UserC - my webcam works with Cheese but not kopete....lol
[05:30] <Smegzor> rdw200169: its over a network.  I need to do a clean install of 8.10 since the upgrade failed totally.
[05:30] <rdw200169> Smegzor: in order to make things easy, stick with ext3
[05:30] <rakib> Hi, how can I get the type of my ram in Ubuntu ? whether it is DDR or DDR2 or SD etc ?
[05:30] <mxweas> komputes: Are there ways to install a driver that would show in that menu?
[05:30] <rakib> can any one suggest me any command ?
[05:30] <Smegzor> rdw.  both ends are ext3
[05:30] <threeseas> where might I find the script that is used for boot up?
[05:30] <_2> in ibex how do you select "vesa" as the vidio driver ?
[05:30] <ziroday> threeseas: what do you mean by script?
[05:30] <nickshater> anyone having any problems resuming after hibernate or suspend?
[05:30] <Smegzor> I only run Windows virtually these days.
[05:30] <ziroday> _2: you can edit xorg,conf and change the driver to vesa
[05:31] <rathel_> I just installed 8.10 on my laptop and suspend still doesn't work, it never wakes up, anyway I can get it working?
[05:31] <_2> ziroday it doesn't even list a driver
[05:31] <mfeinstein> I am trying to install mythbuntu and as soon as it get past the loading screen all i get is a blinking cursor. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[05:31] <threeseas> ziroday: I want to take NetworkManager and change its position in the boot sequence
[05:31] <ziroday> _2: then add the driver field
[05:31] <ziroday> threeseas: one sec
[05:31] <_2> ziroday so it's a manual edit only ?
[05:31] <Xpistos> This is what I used to try and get my hdd mounted
[05:31] <Xpistos> http://www.idevelopment.info/data/Unix/Linux/LINUX_PartitioningandFormattingSecondHardDrive_ext3.shtml
[05:31] <rakib> Can any one help me plzzzzzzz !!
[05:31] <ziroday> _2: you can use displayconfig-gtk but that can be dangerous
[05:32] <Xpistos> I can get the folder, but I cannot do anytying create folders share nothting
[05:32] <_2> ziroday k.
[05:32] <itai-michaelson> rakib, maybe the package sysinfo might help you
[05:32] <mrono> anyone had any experience with setting up a griffin power mate
[05:33] <rakib> itai-michaelson: from synaptic package manager ?
[05:33] <mrono> and is there a better config for laptop touchpads?
[05:33] <noone00110011> Trying to figure out hoe to call someone with Ekiga.. How do you do it?? any help?
[05:33] <itai-michaelson> rakib,  sudo apt-get install sysinfo
[05:33] <UserC> digitalvectorz: doesn't that means it can work if you change the settings with skype somehow? surely someone know
[05:33] <brutus> (F)eisty, (G)utsy, (H)ardy, (I)ntrepid, what next...(J)umpy Jaguar ? :)
[05:33] <UserC> digitalvectorz: thus i shall keep repeating :P
[05:33] <UserC> My webcam works with Cheese but not with Skype, can anyone help me with that?
[05:33] <digitalvectorz> i don't use skype UserC
[05:33] <komputes> mxweas: perhaps that means broadcoms wl does not work this way since it is not autodetected
[05:34] <komputes> mxweas: theres alwats ndiswrapper
[05:34] <UserC> digitalvectorz: the problem is similar
[05:34] <Wicked> ok i have lvm setup with a couple partitions on 3 different hard drives added to it...what happens if a drive goes bad and dies? do i lose everything?
[05:34] <toastedmilk> Trying to Install ATI driver from BinaryHowTo, after enabling accelerated ATI, I tried to do this:  sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko    And got this:   insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.24-21-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': -1 File exists
[05:34] <Wintervenom> How do I get the icons in the panels to stop moving around whenever I log back in to Ubuntu?
[05:34] <mxweas> komputes: I don't think monitor mode works with ndiswrapper
[05:34] <ziroday> threeseas: you can install the insserv package, that will help you reorder the boot scripts
[05:34] <digitalvectorz> UserC:  yar...in Kopete, it auto detects the cam, but it doesn't display an image from the cam..only a frozen, obscure black picture with a horizontal line of static or something
[05:34] <cvd_> Hello
[05:34] <Wintervenom> Also, how do I get the icons to stay on either side, so that there are no icons that are sitting out in the middle of the panel?
[05:34] <mxweas> my wl driver functions and I can connect to wifi networks, but the driver doesn't support monitor mode
[05:34] <itai-michaelson> rakib, sorry i was wrong , it will not help you
[05:34] <komputes> mxweas: that's very possible
[05:35] <mxweas> I was looking for maybe an addition that would allow it
[05:35] <UserC> digitalvectorz: i just see a weird image i can't describe.. lol
[05:35] <mxweas> for wl anyway
[05:35] <cvd_> After Using openSuse11 and now instaled ubuntu 8.10 i feel like Home Again
[05:35] <digitalvectorz> is it a still pic UserC ?
[05:35] <toastedmilk> Trying to Install ATI driver from BinaryHowTo, after enabling accelerated ATI, I tried to do this:  sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko    And got this:   insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.24-21-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': -1 File exists
[05:35] <Miesco> How do I find out what /dev file my sd card is on?
[05:35] <UserC> digitalvectorz: no, and my cam turns on
[05:35] <james__> Hey guys, just need to know how to upgrade to Intrepid from Hardy via a terminal command, anyway thats possible? Thanks
[05:36] <dan_> hey, I installed stunnel in order to tunnel my newsgroups connection, and after installing it, when I restart the computer the tunnel no longer functions
[05:36] <rakib> itai-michaelson: then what may help ?
[05:36] <toastedmilk> james__, ubuntu.com
[05:36] <dan_> anyone know anything about how to fix that?
[05:36] <digitalvectorz> UserC:  my cam turns on, it is on...but in the 'configuration' of kopete it just shows a still, distorted pic.  i have no clue the first step in diagnosing webcams
[05:36] <itai-michaelson> rakib, this command : sudo dmidecode --type 17
[05:36] <toastedmilk> Trying to Install ATI driver from BinaryHowTo, after enabling accelerated ATI, I tried to do this:  sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko    And got this:   insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.24-21-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': -1 File exists
[05:37] <itai-michaelson> rakib copy paste that command into a terminal , the whole thing including the --type 17 part
[05:37] <UserC> digitalvectorz: same here, perhaps you should try using EasyCam 2, it installs cam drivers.. didn't work for me though
[05:37] <UserC> My webcam works with Cheese but not with Skype, can anyone help me with that?
[05:37] <rakib> itai-michaelson: thanks right it helps
[05:37] <toastedmilk> Trying to Install ATI driver from BinaryHowTo, after enabling accelerated ATI, I tried to do this:  sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko    And got this:   insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.24-21-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': -1 File exists
[05:37] <itai-michaelson> rakib, np
[05:38] <mrono> how do i get linux to run on ubuntu
[05:38] <thilmegil> anyone feel like helping an Ubuntu newbie with mounting permission issues on a fresh install? Apparently i am missing something somewhere about how to enable administrator permissions
[05:38] <digitalvectorz> UserC:  what kind of cam are u using?
[05:38]  * MFen lol
[05:38] <cvd_> How con i remove the Ubuntu-it frm firefox?
[05:38] <MFen> mrono: ubuntu is a kind of linux.
[05:38] <itai-michaelson> thilmegil, what are you trying to do?
[05:38] <Flannel> cvd_: remove ubuntu-it from firefox?
[05:38] <UserC> digitalvectorz: genius videocam eye
[05:39] <digitalvectorz> UserC:  ah, okay
[05:39] <MFen> anyone know how to get a list of all packages on the system, grouped by source? i'm looking to make a list for system recovery, with packages i installed manually separated out
[05:39] <UserC> digitalvectorz: no one is helping me here :P
[05:39] <digitalvectorz> UserC:  I can see that
[05:39] <UserC> My webcam works with Cheese but not with Skype, can anyone help me with that?
[05:39] <cvd_> in firefox in the toolbar(file, edit)  Ubunut_it
[05:39] <MFen> the correct way SHOULD be dpkg-query -W -f '${Package} ${Origin}', but origin stopped working some time in the last 4 years
[05:39] <toastedmilk> Trying to Install ATI driver from BinaryHowTo, after enabling accelerated ATI, I tried to do this:  sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko    And got this:   insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.24-21-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': -1 File exists
[05:39] <UserC> digitalvectorz: i'll get a better result by spamming and getting kicked
[05:40] <dennister> hey channel...having real troubles getting a dialup connection going here for this user...in over 2 years and many systems later, I've never had to do this before, and having waded thru tons of documentation, I'm getting overwhelmed
[05:40] <thilmegil> i am trying to copy info from an ntfs drive to an ext3 fresh partition
[05:40] <mrono> MFen, i know that, anyone know how i can get wow running
[05:40] <unr3a1> !clone
[05:40] <toastedmilk> Need help installing ATI driver for Hardy on 64 bit motherboard on BinaryDriverHowTo!!!
[05:40] <digitalvectorz> UserC:  mine worked before upgrading to 8.10...worked fine.
[05:40] <digitalvectorz> go figure
[05:40] <itai-michaelson> thilmegil, to which directory are you copying?
[05:41] <dennister> also have a dozen different modems here, have swapped quite a few, but gnome-ppp can't find any of them, even tho they all show up in lspcs and lshw
[05:41] <toastedmilk> Need help installing ATI driver for Hardy on 64 bit motherboard on BinaryDriverHowTo!!!
[05:41] <UserC> digitalvectorz: maybe that's the problem.. i just installed 8.10, might have been a bad idea.. it still has bugs probably
[05:41] <dennister> has anyone here ever configured a diaup connection lately?
[05:41] <toastedmilk> Anyone know anything about having a problem with sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko ???
[05:41] <thilmegil> from /media/music1 to /media/music
[05:42] <thilmegil> i partitioned and mounted everything during install
[05:42] <digitalvectorz> UserC:  I wouldn't doubt it.  I just wonder, if it works in Cheese, and has output in /dev/video0, where exactly could it be going wrong with other applications?
[05:42] <Miesco> Where is my SD card in /dev?
[05:42] <thilmegil> well i didn't partition everything, i left the ntfs alone and just mounted them
[05:42] <itai-michaelson> thilmegil, is /media/music an ntfs ?
[05:42] <toastedmilk> Anyone know anything about having a problem with sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko on Hardy trying to install an ATI driver from the BinaryHowTo???
[05:43] <UserC> digitalvectorz: well.. i just started with ubuntu 2 days ago.. i wonder the same.. lol
[05:43] <thilmegil> /media/music1 is ntfs but /media/music is ext3
[05:43] <GuZ> Is there anyway to convert from Ubuntueee to regular Ubuntu?
[05:43] <VicTheHunter> Hello everyone.  How can I know if my video adapter can support compiz's cool effects?  I have been unable to see the 3d cube rotate when I press hot keys.  Also, my hardware test asks me if I saw color bars and static.  I only saw color bars.
[05:43] <thilmegil> i am copying from ntfs partition to ext3 partition so that i can then format the ntfs into ext3 partitions
[05:44] <itai-michaelson> thilmegil, can you right click on /media/music and check properties>permissions?
[05:44] <frybye> Hi - I am using audacity in intrepid - in the config it shows three options for a playback device - none of them seems to be the right one/or is working.. recording is working ok - i can export and play the files with a different player .. but not withing audacity.. any tips please??
[05:44] <itai-michaelson> VicTheHunter, what graphic card?
[05:45] <william__> hey, if anyone is familiar with hard drives and connections to ubuntu/xubuntu, i would really appreciate the help
[05:45] <mabus> GuZ: out of curiosity what was wrong with ubuntueee? I'm an eee pc user who just installed ubununtu 8.10 on my 4g surf
[05:45] <VicTheHunter> I believe its a Sis 761
[05:45] <VicTheHunter> integrated
[05:45] <thilmegil> root
[05:45] <GuZ> mabus: I dont like the maximizer it has or the launcher it makes you use
[05:45] <keith1212131> hello
[05:45] <brizone> suse 11 have a installer for Windows XP as ubuntu?
[05:46] <frybye> mabus: I am using the kernal from www.array.com and it seems fine...
[05:46] <itai-michaelson> thilmegil, you cannot copy into a directory owned by root. is there a reason why you dont copy it to your home folder? is /media/music a different partition?
[05:46] <rdw200169> brizone: like wubi?
[05:46] <thilmegil> yes
[05:46] <keith1212131> does anyone know how to get xp bootloader to recognize linux as an os
[05:46] <brizone> yes, have a exe for install??
[05:46] <william__> anyone able to help me with a hard drive problem???
[05:47] <rdw200169> keith1212131: if that were possible, there would be no need for grub or lilo ;)
[05:47] <itai-michaelson> VicTheHunter, whats the output of lspci | grep VGA?
[05:47] <frybye> mabus: one has to first install the generic 8.10 and then switch the kernal at that site..
[05:47] <keith1212131> lol
[05:47] <keith1212131> ok
[05:47] <itai-michaelson> thilmegil, yes what?
[05:47] <UserC> My webcam works with Cheese but not with Skype, can anyone help me with that?
[05:47] <keith1212131> now i have xp on my primary drive, and on my secondary ubuntu
[05:47] <hatah> Hi, i have VNC set up on my unbuntu-desktop // I want to be able to access from my work computer, any idea how?
[05:47] <thilmegil> / is one partition , /home is another, in all i have 7 physical drives with about 11 partitions between them all
[05:47] <keith1212131> and when i boot up it just goes in to xp
[05:48] <itai-michaelson> thilmegil, thats not what i asked
[05:48] <VicTheHunter> itai, thank you for your help. Let me get that output...
[05:48] <pentaside> Ok, Network Manager acknowledges that I have a wireless card now, but still no Networkes detected.  Any ideas?
[05:48] <yuanfg> is anyone chinese?
[05:48] <itai-michaelson> thilmegil, i asked whether /media/music is on a different partition than /
[05:48] <Wintervenom> Wait... did Ubuntu switch X servers in the Intrepid release?
[05:48] <rathel_> I just installed 8.10 on my laptop and suspend still doesn't work, it never wakes up, anyway I can get it working?
[05:48] <itai-michaelson> yuanfg, i can speak chinese..你好
[05:49] <yuanfg> 你好
[05:49] <VicTheHunter> itai, the output is 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 03)
[05:49] <yuanfg> 你是中国人么？
[05:49] <AussieGuy> whats the kill signal to ask an application to close, as if youd manually made it exit
[05:49] <Flannel> !cn | yuanfg
[05:49] <mamaro> hello, how do I stop linux from asking for keyring password?
[05:49] <AussieGuy> so I can put it in crontab
[05:49] <thilmegil> oh, i thought it was just a mount point?
[05:49] <keith1212131> i can still load into linux using boot menu
[05:49] <keith1212131> but its anoying at times
[05:49] <brizone> have Suse 11 a exe for intall idem ubuntu or no??
[05:50] <rdw200169> keith1212131: you can set a timeout in grub
[05:50] <thilmegil> but no / and /media/music i guess are on the same partition
[05:50] <mabus> frybye: I just had to install the linux-backports-eeepc package or something like that, and wifi worked fine
[05:50] <itai-michaelson> yuanfg,我是外国人。你这里必须用英文。。。
[05:50] <lvshankar> hello, i have kernel 2.6.22-14 running...any kernel after that, doesn't detect my sata hard disk...any help?
[05:50] <jj_galvez> has anyone been able to install ia32-libs on 8.10 amd64?
[05:50] <keith1212131> how
[05:50] <rdw200169> keith1212131: you just edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[05:50] <frybye> mabus: as you like pal - I was just saying what had worked for myself...
[05:51] <keith1212131> yea but grub dosen't load
[05:51] <keith1212131> xp just loads
[05:51] <rdw200169> keith1212131: i was assuming you had linux too
[05:51] <Pedrolito> is it possible to hide the controls in fullscreen mode in totem?
[05:51] <keith1212131> i do
[05:51] <rdw200169> keith1212131: oh wait, you're using wubi?
[05:51] <itai-michaelson> thilmegil, if /music/media is on a different partition you need to change the ownership and the permissions of the folder
[05:51] <keith1212131> no linux has a hdd
[05:51] <lvshankar> keith1212131, check if the partition on which grub is installed has boot flag set
[05:51] <william__> anyone know about hard drives???
[05:51] <keith1212131> xp has a hdd
[05:52] <william__> external hard drives
[05:52] <djhash> !anyone | william__
[05:52] <rdw200169> keith1212131: it's in the bios
[05:52] <keith1212131> ive checked
[05:52] <AussieGuy> apparently external hard drives can even be plugged into tv's nowdays
[05:52] <thilmegil> you mean /media/music?
[05:52] <rdw200169> keith1212131: you're 'primary' hard drive is loading first
[05:52] <AussieGuy> if they have a usb port
[05:52] <keith1212131> and the way my computer works, it loads the sata drive first
[05:52] <rdw200169> keith1212131: which has windows on it, and no the grub mbr
[05:52] <itai-michaelson> thilmegil, see my private message
[05:52] <RickZilla>  First time Amarok user here...any special tricks to getting it to recognize my iPod Shuffle right away?
[05:52] <keith1212131> that has xp
[05:52] <keith1212131> yes
[05:53] <rdw200169> keith1212131: and since you can't change it, you can do a grub-install on the other drive
[05:53] <william__> I need help with my external hard drive. it is a 500 GB hard drive but i can only access 99GB of that 500. It wont let me use any more
[05:53] <keith1212131> ok
[05:53] <komputes> how can I fix or extract as many files as I can from a corrupted tar file?
[05:53] <lvshankar> keith1212131, ok then change your first hdd from bios maybe
[05:53] <pretender_> I would like to put a copy of the games group in the applications menu on the desktop for easy access.  How can i do this?  I want to drag it as a whole to a shortcut on the desktop not the individual icons
[05:53] <keith1212131> it wont select, another hdd
[05:53] <rdw200169> keith1212131: it'll put the grub mbr on the other drive, and grub-install will reference the 'stage 2' from the linux drive
[05:53] <_2> anyone can shed light on this error   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/12187 ?
[05:53] <frybye> Hi - I am using audacity in intrepid - in the config it shows three options for a playback device - none of them seems to be the right one/or is working.. recording is working ok - i can export and play the files with a different player .. but not withing audacity.. any tips please??
[05:54] <keith1212131> ok, can install grub on my xp drive
[05:54] <pentaside> Anyone have a little time to help me get my Network Manager to discover my Wireless Network?
[05:54] <keith1212131> that will fix everthing
[05:54] <RickZilla> frybye:  Audacity doesn't work for me...I gave up quite a while ago, had same issues
[05:54] <rdw200169> keith1212131: man grub-install
[05:54] <rdw200169> keith1212131: read up a little bit
[05:54] <djhash> pretender_: the application menu is not a folder.. its just a menu item.. what you can do is create a folder and within it, make your shortcuts
[05:54] <keith1212131> will it install under xp though
[05:54] <rdw200169> keith1212131: since it's sata, i'm assuming the drive is called /dev/sda
[05:54] <frybye> RickZilla: what do u use now - (to produce mp3's for instance...?)
[05:54] <keith1212131> yea
[05:54] <rdw200169> keith1212131: has nothing to do with xp ;)
[05:55] <keith1212131> thats the primary drive
[05:55] <keith1212131> rly
[05:55] <dan_> hey, does anyone have any experience using SSL to setup a client tunnel with stunnel(4)?
[05:55] <frybye> RickZilla: in a way it is a bit of an achedemic question - cos the thing does make mp3's perfectly - just cant play them back.. heheh
[05:55] <rdw200169> keith1212131: should be a matter of  "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"
[05:56] <keith1212131> ok
[05:56] <keith1212131> but i need to do that from xp
[05:56] <dan_> I'm running into a problem, it looks like the script tries to resolve my newsgroup's hostname before I actually have internet access
[05:56] <rdw200169> no, from linux
[05:56] <lvshankar> keith1212131, use a live cd instead
[05:56] <keith1212131> linux wont write to a nfts
[05:56] <Hubris2> Anybody else run into issues after upgrading to 8.10 where applications can't find  TLS/SSL support?
[05:56] <keith1212131> its cool, i have a system
[05:56] <dan_> so it's returning a host not found type error and the tunnel is failing to set up on start
[05:56] <rdw200169> keith1212131: this has nothing to do with NTFS
[05:56] <ashgadgets> Heya
[05:56] <rdw200169> keith1212131: it has to do with th e mbr
[05:56] <jim_p> goodmorning guys
[05:56] <keith1212131> i just have to change boot device
[05:56] <ashgadgets> good afternnon :D
[05:57] <rdw200169> keith1212131: *sigh* grub is pretty darn smart
[05:57] <lvshankar> rdw200169, i think keith1212131 is assuming he has install grub from xp
[05:57] <frybye> jim_p: morning - up bright and early...?
[05:57] <keith1212131> well other wise, xp just takes over
[05:57] <rdw200169> keith1212131: from linux, on /dev/hda or whatever, it's ok to run grub-install for /dev/sda
[05:57] <rdw200169> keith1212131: on /dev/sda, microsoft installed the windows mbr
[05:57] <keith1212131> ok
[05:57] <_2>                http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/12187             why is this crashing ?
[05:57] <prince_jammys> _2: hm, looks like video driver/framebuffer problems. can you even run vim, or aptitude?
[05:57] <rdw200169> keith1212131: which leads to the windows bootloader
[05:58] <keith1212131> yes
[05:58] <pretender_> thought so thanks for the help
[05:58] <jim_p> frybye: yea its 8.00 here and i have slept at 1.30
[05:58] <rdw200169> keith1212131: but, grub can overwrite that, without touching the ntfs
[05:58] <_2> prince_jammys but i'm not using either
[05:58] <frybye> jim_p: you in e.europe??
[05:58] <prince_jammys> _2: i know, but are you able to run them from a terminal?
[05:58] <rdw200169> keith1212131: and write the grub Stage1 mbr that points to /dev/hda and the partition with /boot/
[05:58] <keith1212131> ok
[05:58] <keith1212131> thanks,
[05:59] <_2> prince_jammys no you misunderstand. i'm not using any vidio driver or frame buffer.
[05:59] <keith1212131> one last question, i can figure out how to use youtube in ubuntu
[05:59] <frybye> jim_p: see pm pse..
[05:59] <prince_jammys> _2: oh
[05:59] <rdw200169> keith1212131: but it's best to do running from the linux you want to host the /boot/ directory, so you dont' have to specify root-directory
[05:59] <keith1212131> ive installed flash and everything
[05:59] <_2> prince_jammys yes vim and even elinks are fine.  it's that webpage that crashes things.
[05:59] <prince_jammys> _2: strange
[05:59] <_2> yeah
[05:59] <lvshankar> hello, i have kernel 2.6.22-14 running...hardy...any kernel after that, doesn't detect my sata hard disk...any help?
[05:59] <rdw200169> keith1212131: grub-install assumes that the /root from the linux it's running from is the source of all the images and the menu.lst file etc...
[06:00] <keith1212131> good to know
[06:00] <rdw200169> keith1212131: and it doesn't have to be on the same drive
[06:00] <keith1212131> however, my bios is OLD, it just knows to load the first hdd
[06:01] <rdw200169> keith1212131: that's what i'm trying to help you fix!
[06:01] <djhash> keith1212131: what motherboard do you have?
[06:01] <aremudhz> hi , leh gabung
[06:01] <rdw200169> keith1212131: the last step the bios takes is loading the mbr
[06:01] <jim_p> one more proof about how pathetic network manager is. a guy using 8.04 had problems with network manager only working for the wireless interface and never for the wired one. he did everything and he finally upgraded to 8.10 despite my warnings not to! and now the wored interface works, but no wireless at all. simply PATHETIC!
[06:01] <rdw200169> keith1212131: that's when the bootloader takes over
[06:01] <keith1212131> ok
[06:01] <mabus> frybye: what improvements are even on the eeebuntu system? I just assumed that since it was intrepid release day I'd install the latest version of the real ubuntu and figure most of the enhancements for the eee were installable.
[06:01] <_2> prince_jammys it's definitely the webpage.   i can links google.com just fine.
[06:02] <aremudhz> hii ..
[06:02] <prince_jammys> _2: try another https site
[06:02] <rdw200169> keith1212131: if it will only load the mbr from one drive, no big deal, just make sure the mbr bootloader knows to find the rest of the files it needs on another drive or whatever
[06:02] <_2> prince_jammys what's another https that i can check ?
[06:02] <VicTheHunter> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 03)
[06:02] <prince_jammys> _2: citibank.com, maybe.
[06:02] <_2> k
[06:02] <keith1212131> dell deminson 4600i
[06:02] <jim_p> what packages is needed for mp3s to play?
[06:02] <_2> prince_jammys yeah works fine.
[06:02] <VicTheHunter> Hello, would someone be able to help me find out if my video adapter can support compiz cool effects? I just pasted the output above.
[06:03] <prince_jammys> _2: (but honestly, i have no idea what's causing the problem. elinks loads those fine over here)
[06:03] <keith1212131> allright, its cool
[06:03] <keith1212131> thanks
[06:03] <_2> so i just found a bug in one of the ubuntu web pages !
[06:03] <prince_jammys> heh
[06:03] <rdw200169> keith1212131: no problem
[06:03] <frybye> mabus: have a look at the details..http://www.array.org/ubuntu/enhancements.html <-- don't confuse with other products with similar name... ok?
[06:03] <prince_jammys> _2: look for it in the ubuntu forums ;)
[06:04] <jim_p> VicTheHunter: probably no. sis onboard video has minimal to none 3d abilities
[06:04] <_2> prince_jammys k
[06:04] <aremudhz> hii
[06:04] <prince_jammys> _2: was a joke. can you even access any of ubuntu's pages?
[06:04] <rdw200169> keith1212131: wait, it just occured to me, have you been able to run the linux from the other drive at all??
[06:04] <keith1212131> yea
[06:04] <jim_p> what packages is needed for mp3s to play?
[06:04] <keith1212131> running linux right now
[06:04] <rdw200169> keith1212131: how do you do that, if you can't boot that drive
[06:04] <Spirits-Sight> where is the book marks for FF keep so I can move them to a new system
[06:04] <keith1212131> it works GREAT
[06:05] <_2> prince_jammys eeek   it's the entire domain.   'https://wiki.ubuntu.com/'
[06:05] <jim_p> or should i say mp3 playback?
[06:05] <keith1212131> i have to press f11
[06:05] <rdw200169> keith1212131: and your primary drive only boots windows?
[06:05] <prince_jammys> jim_p: ubuntu-restricted-extras, i think
[06:05] <prince_jammys> !mp3 | jim_p
[06:05] <keith1212131> can manually select the secondary drive
[06:05] <rdw200169> keith1212131: ah, force windows to continue booting on the other drive then ?
[06:05] <jim_p> prince_jammys: thanks
[06:05] <_2> prince_jammys i have been accessing ubuntu docs with elinks for years.    yes.
[06:05] <djhash> keith1212131: thats your bios giving you the option.. i belive you can definitely change that..
[06:06] <aremudhz> jjjj
[06:06] <keith1212131> i know
[06:06] <rdw200169> keith1212131: djhash: right right
[06:06] <keith1212131> but at this point, im content, its just a little anouying to watch my pc boot
[06:06] <rdw200169> keith1212131: wierd bios madness
[06:06] <Spirits-Sight> does anyone know which file I have to move to get my bookmarks and other thing for firefox on to a different system
[06:06] <unr3a1> question... why does it that when I have text editor opened, and move to a different desktop, why does text editor follow me?
[06:06] <prince_jammys> _2: perhaps some DNS issue (which i'm totally ignorant about how to fix/diagnose)
[06:06] <keith1212131> so i can select the boot device
[06:06] <brizone> the linspire is the major linux??
[06:06] <_2> prince_jammys ok update.   it only affects username 'root'
[06:06] <rdw200169> keith1212131: regardless, the solution i present will keep you from having to do that
[06:06] <bouma> how can i add fonts to xwindows ?
[06:06] <prince_jammys> _2: ah.
[06:06] <bouma> or ubuntu ?
[06:07] <T-One> good morning
[06:07] <keith1212131> im kinda afraid of killing my data,
[06:07] <rdw200169> keith1212131: dont' worry
[06:07] <keith1212131> or screwing up normal boots
[06:07] <unr3a1> only text editor follows me.  no other app does...
[06:07] <prince_jammys> _2: curious. though it's a good idea not to use root, anyway.
[06:07] <rdw200169> keith1212131: you can restore the windows mbr using the grub cd
[06:07] <_2> prince_jammys i'm not sure what that error message is saying.
[06:07] <keith1212131> ok
[06:07] <VicTheHunter> What video card would everyone recommend for PCI Express slot, so that I may see compiz effects?
[06:07] <_2> prince_jammys hehhe root is my normal username
[06:07] <unr3a1> Spirits-Sight: well, you can backup your bookmarks by going into the bookmarks option in the toolbar, clicking on organizing bookmarks, and then selecting "Export HTML"
[06:07] <keith1212131> and im buying a new pc in a few days
[06:08] <_2> prince_jammys the superuser is not named root here.
[06:08] <keith1212131> i want to run linux and xp on the same drive
[06:08] <prince_jammys> _2: THAT's why you were looking for superuser names in #bash
[06:08] <keith1212131> any easy way to do this
[06:08] <_2> prince_jammys yep
[06:08] <djhash> keith1212131: there should be a menu, that lets you change the boot order of the hard drives.. some bioses have different menu for boot devices and then the order of the sub-devices.. (like one menu will let you select HDD or CD or FLOPPY or NET, and another menu you can change the order of devices within each category..
[06:08] <rdw200169> keith1212131: in that case, you can use wubi
[06:08] <prince_jammys> _2: it all comes together now.
[06:08] <unr3a1> keith1212131:  dual boot.
[06:08] <rdw200169> djhash: he has already said his bios won't do that ;)
[06:08] <_2> prince_jammys not all.  but a few peaces  :)))
[06:09] <unr3a1> so does anyone know why text editor follows me to different desktops?
[06:09] <djhash> rdw200169: i disagree.. i have an older dell dimension.. and i can do that..
[06:09] <rdw200169> keith1212131: you don't have to do any partitioning or anything
[06:09] <rdw200169> djhash: i have to take his word for it ;)
[06:09] <keith1212131> ok
[06:10] <prince_jammys> _2: i wonder if that username may cause you some problems in apps that naively assume 'root' to be the normal root
[06:10] <unr3a1> I will try back later
[06:10] <unr3a1> cya all
[06:10] <keith1212131> witch os get first dibs, ubuntu on xp
[06:10] <_2> prince_jammys ok i solved it.   it was an ssl issue.  i'm not sure what citybank.com  worked?
[06:10] <rdw200169> keith1212131: as far as booting?
[06:10] <keith1212131> no
[06:10] <_2> s=what=why=
[06:11] <prince_jammys> _2: because you didn't try to log in :)
[06:11] <keith1212131> when i set up my new pc
[06:11] <rdw200169> keith1212131: then first dibs for what?
[06:11] <keith1212131> installing
[06:11] <prince_jammys> _2: i think it goes into ssl once you log in
[06:11] <rdw200169> keith1212131: well, your laptop will come with windows i'm assuming,
[06:11] <keith1212131> like install xp, then use ubuntu to resize the pation
[06:11] <_2> prince_jammys ah ok.      anyway  if you ever see that message about no entropy   it's ssl failing.
[06:11] <keith1212131> no,
[06:11] <keith1212131> its comming without os
[06:11] <prince_jammys> _2: heh, got it. well, at least we were onto something about the https
[06:11] <rdw200169> keith1212131: alright then
[06:12] <rdw200169> keith1212131: it's best to install windows first, then put in ubuntu
[06:12] <keith1212131> ok
[06:12] <rdw200169> keith1212131: windows doesn't play well with others, so let it do it's thing
[06:12] <keith1212131> thanks guys, this is a rly good OS
[06:12] <keith1212131> its like the anti OS X
[06:12] <_2> prince_jammys indeed.  and thanks for talking me through that.   some times all it takes is to hear ones own problem described...  ;/
[06:12] <rdw200169> keith1212131: while ubuntu *does* play well, and will safely resize the NTFS partition, or install with windows using wubi
[06:13] <keith1212131> right
[06:13] <Yoshi> OMG my grub is completly buggered
[06:13] <Hubris2> Anybody have an idea how to reconfigure ALSA so it has a different default audio device?  Mine has decided that the default device is PulseAudio - not an actual sound card I can control
[06:13] <Yoshi> please help me in fixing it
[06:13] <Yoshi> on a live pendrive reight now
[06:13] <AussieGuy> whats a package that would install the right sound drivers for my laptop, from xubuntu?
[06:13] <prince_jammys> _2: my initial comment was because of the DirectFB message, but I guess you always get that with links2
[06:13] <keith1212131> like i love the flexibility here
[06:13] <rdw200169> Yoshi: well, can you get into the hard drive?
[06:13] <bullgard4> On my Ubuntu 8.04.1 computer ran just the process gs a long time and used 94% of the  prozessor time. Has this been triggered by a weekly cronjob? To what purpose?
[06:14] <_2> prince_jammys yeah.
[06:14] <keith1212131> i can run ubuntu from a usb drive, then go and install it
[06:14] <rdw200169> keith1212131: sure
[06:14] <keith1212131> ive done it
[06:14] <brizone> ubuntu have similar program wubi.exe?
[06:14] <keith1212131> its freaking nice
[06:14] <Yoshi> rdw200169: no apparently this thing cant see the hard drives
[06:14] <brizone> sorry, Suse
[06:14] <rdw200169> brizone: they're both related ;)
[06:14] <Yoshi> rdw200169: not accourding to mount anyway
[06:15] <rdw200169> Yoshi: you can try mounting the partitions then
[06:15] <eumario> Has anyone had any trouble with the 2.6.27 Kernel from 8.10, where it'll freeze in mid-boot, with a crash, yet the 2.6.24 Kernel from 8.04 will still work just fine?
[06:15] <keith1212131> ill be back
[06:15] <rdw200169> Yoshi: manually
[06:15] <keith1212131> i have to reboot
[06:15] <rdw200169> keith1212131: good luck !
[06:15] <_2>
[06:15] <schlort> has anyone been able to successfully change the deskbar-applet icon?  i replace the pngs but the icon does not change
[06:16] <jim_p> schlort: killall gnome-panel
[06:16] <jim_p> to force it to refresh
[06:16] <schlort> does not change
[06:16] <schlort> i'm talking about the deskbar-applet.. the magnifying glass with the lightning.. even after a restart, the original graphic remains
[06:17] <jim_p> schlort: what name do you change it to?
[06:17] <prince_jammys> perhaps you're not changing the right icon file name
[06:17] <dennister> can anyone help me with this dialup modem installation?
[06:17] <jim_p> dennister: sure, if its not a winmodem
[06:18] <thomas_> hallo
[06:18] <djhash> 3
[06:18] <Reynastus> Hi everyone i was just wondering how you go about enabling sli in ubuntu 8.04 64 bit edition
[06:18] <dennister> jim_p: well, that's the question...been swapping all kinds of modems in and out; gnome-ppp can't find any of them, tho they show up in lshw and lspci
[06:18] <schlort> jim_p: i edited the /usr/share/deskbar-applet/art/deskbar-applet-panel-{h,p}.png files and replaced the originals
[06:18] <dennister> and yes, I've been reading lots, and getting overwhelmed :(
[06:19] <oDev> guys synaptic doesn't show all the packages for example 'vlc' but i still can install it with apt-get how can i fix this?
[06:19] <jim_p> dennister: pci card modems? please post an lspci output showing one
[06:19] <_2> dennister wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf ;sudo editor /etc/wvdial.conf    # but there are other tools/way/means
[06:19] <keith1212131> hi everyone
[06:19] <brizone> some have linspire??
[06:19] <King> billy u still out there
[06:19] <_2> sorry sudo that first one,.
[06:19] <Gr33n3gg> Other than re-installing 8.10, can I upgrade to 8.10 within 8.04?
[06:19] <Flannel> !upgrade | Gr33n3gg
[06:19] <Doc8404> anyone running the new 8.1 ubuntu. is it worth the update
[06:19] <Gr33n3gg> Seems like I should of JFGI, thanks.
[06:19] <jim_p> oDev: do you have all repos enabled?
[06:20] <funnycartman> have anybody installed jmf?
[06:20] <jim_p> Doc8404: no!
[06:20] <_2> dennister wvdial is a good tool for detecting/configuring modems
[06:20] <funnycartman> I mean, java media freamwwork
[06:20] <djhash> schlort: there is also a SVG file.. you might need to change that too
[06:20] <funnycartman> I mean, java media freamework
[06:20] <dennister> jim_p: ok ...other pc I'm working on is just about ready with gnome
[06:20] <Doc8404> so the new update is garbage?
[06:20] <funnycartman> I mean, java media framework
[06:20] <oDev> jim_p: yes all fron settings->repos are enabled
[06:20] <dennister> isn't wvdial for wireless?
[06:20] <brizone> plz have a iso of linspire
[06:20] <_2> dennister no.
[06:20] <prince_jammys> schlort: find /usr/share/icons -name '*deskbar*'   (i think you'll be looking at deskbar-applet.{png,svg})
[06:21] <keith1212131> is ubuntu the best linux ( for the end user)
[06:21] <Doc8404> no keith its all about needs
[06:21] <Reynastus> Does anyone know how to enable SLI in 8.04 ive been reading for a while and can't seem to find anything
[06:21] <jim_p> oDev: vlc is on the multiverse repo
[06:21] <djhash> !best | keith1212131
[06:21] <Uplink> how can i make my panel look clear color?
[06:21] <keith1212131> ok
[06:21] <Uplink> how can i install segio font on ubuntu?
[06:21] <jim_p> Doc8404: too much problems to face. it does not worth it now
[06:22] <schlort> prince_jammys: thanks a lot!  the last ubuntu forum post i could find pointed me to /usr/share/deskbar-applet/art.  i'll try the ones you've uncovered for me
[06:22] <oDev> jim_p: that is also enabled
[06:22] <jim_p> Uplink: do you have the .ttf file ?
[06:22] <Uplink> jim_p: ttf?
[06:22] <bullgard4> On my Ubuntu 8.04.1 computer ran just the process gs (for Ghostscript) a long time and used 94% of the processor time. Has this been triggered by a weekly cronjob? To what purpose?
[06:22] <Sertse> I am a bit confused. There are generic kernel, and there is the 386 kernel? Generic covers what arch, and 386 respectively?
[06:22] <keith1212131> ok
[06:22] <prince_jammys> schlort: cool. that should do it
[06:22] <keith1212131> thanks
[06:22] <mrono> i'm having some problems playing a dvd
[06:22] <jim_p> oDev: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search vlc
[06:22] <mrono> says it doesn't have permission to open it
[06:22] <Doc8404> whats 8.04 LTS? jim_p
[06:23] <jim_p> Uplink: tha font file, like arial.ttf
[06:23] <_dennister> jim
[06:23] <prince_jammys> Doc8404: Long Term Support
[06:23] <fallore> sudo fixallmyproblems doesn't work, any suggestions guys?
[06:23] <Uplink> jim_p: nope...
[06:23] <jim_p> Doc8404: the previous version...?
[06:23] <_dennister> jim_p: 01:09.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem (rev 01)
[06:23] <mrono> what do i gotta do to play a dvd
[06:23] <Doc8404> oh ok... cause ubuntu said to get 8.04 LTS if you want more than 1 year support on ubuntu lol
[06:23] <bullgard4> mrono:  "i'm having some problems playing a dvd" is no exact description.
[06:23] <jim_p> Uplink: then how will you install it?
[06:23] <Schmick> anyone knows if ipfw (a firewall) is available in Hardy? Can't see it in apt.
[06:23] <jim_p> _dennister: give me a sec ok?
[06:23] <Uplink> jim_p: using package manager?
[06:23] <_dennister> jim_p: ok
[06:24] <jim_p> Schmick: firestarter
[06:24] <oDev> jim_p: apt-get finds it without any problems but synaptic still doesnt
[06:24] <Schmick> jim_p, that's the package name for ipfw?
[06:24] <jim_p> oDev: sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:24] <jim_p> Schmick: no, thats a gui frontend
[06:24] <mrono> i go to totem hit play dnd and it says "Totem could not play this media (DVD) even though a plugin is present to handle it.
[06:24] <funnycartman> i have many issues in 8.10.
[06:24] <jim_p> Uplink: show me that font somewhere
[06:24] <oDev> jim_p: :D i know that works but i need to see them on synaptic
[06:25] <chrziz> 8.10 has fixed all my issues, i love it
[06:25] <funnycartman> chronic1, i don't think so
[06:25] <Schmick> jim_p, ohh.. but I guess I'd need a front end after having a firewall..
[06:25] <Reynastus> chrziz: funny 8.10 just seemed to create more for me
[06:25] <Uplink> jim_p: i remember someone telling me how to install fonts from apt-get but i forgot the command
[06:25] <jim_p> chrziz: you must be the 1% that had no problems
[06:25] <King> my external hard stoped automounting
[06:25] <jim_p> Uplink: name the font again
[06:25] <Schmick> I need ipfw cause it can delay packets.. comcast is flooding me with RST packets.
[06:25] <RinTinTigger> hey guys. I cant activate  desktop effects
[06:26] <funnycartman> i installed it, format it ,and then go back to 8.04
[06:26] <King> i just troubleshooted this bout 2 hours ago
[06:26] <Uplink> vista font, sergio
[06:26] <albino> How can I locate packages from the latest ubuntu release?  Intrepid?  I want to browse a mirror with a web browser and look at the .deb files that are available.
[06:26] <Sertse> How do I get my clock to follow time server, and get weather? It's different from 8.04
[06:26] <funnycartman> lots of crashd
[06:26] <jaakkome> Hey, is there an easy way to execute a script when the internet connection goes up / down?
[06:26] <funnycartman> lots of crashs
[06:26] <albino> jaakkome: Internet connection or interface?
[06:26] <prince_jammys> albino: packages.ubuntu.com, probably
[06:26] <Uplink> i just upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 and im getting no sound at all
[06:26] <chrziz> what issues are common to 8.10?
[06:26] <funnycartman> chronic1, freeze
[06:27] <Uplink> jim_p: its segoe UI
[06:27] <djhash> !notes | chrziz
[06:27] <jaakkome> albino: which one would be easier? :)
[06:27] <guga> hello, can anyone tell me how to export my firefox settings (preferences + bookmarks) so that i can recover everything after upgrading? thank you!
[06:27] <chrziz> thanks
[06:27] <Tom_Davis> uplink: double click the speaker icon, that will pop volume control, make sure PCM is turned up
[06:27] <albino> prince_jammys: woot, thanks for that!
[06:27] <prince_jammys> albino: cool.
[06:27] <Uplink> Tom_Davis: there is no speaker icon :|
[06:27] <Tom_Davis> FYI when Ibex installs it turns the PCM slider in sound to 0
[06:27] <albino> jaakkome: well IIRC you can easily execute stuff on interface via one line additions to /etc/network/interfaces
[06:27] <mib_e625nj2o> hello i am new to ubuntu. would like to know if i can install ubuntu 8.10 to Intel Board D845GBV
[06:28] <mrono> when i try to play a DVD Totem says "Totem could not play this media (DVD) even though a plugin is present to handle it.
[06:28] <jim_p> chrziz: no sound, no wireless, problematic network manager, xorg 1.5 that works with a small potion of the cards out there and not fglrx. once again we pay the early adoption of stuff from the developers!!
[06:28] <Tom_Davis> uplink: gnome/xfce/kde? which?
[06:28] <RinTinTigger> guga go to the bookmarkmenue
[06:28] <Uplink> Tom_Davis: gnome
[06:28] <RinTinTigger> I cant activate full desktop effects
[06:28] <Tom_Davis> there should be a speaker icon in the top right of your screen
[06:29] <Uplink> Tom_Davis: there is non
[06:29] <guga> rinintigger: thanks, but what about the rest of preferences and settings?
[06:29] <Tom_Davis> did you install ubuntu-desktop, or gnome?
[06:29] <King> i have my fstab file written write
[06:29] <King> right i mean
[06:29] <bullgard4> There is a program gsearchtool.c. What is its associated executable?
[06:29] <jaakkome> albino: hmm... what are those "if-down.d", "if-post-down.d", "if-pre.up.d" and "if-up.d" directories in there? They look promising
[06:29] <Addy> Server (http://storage.us.to) Uptime: 1wk 4days 2hrs 22mins 22secs
[06:29] <RinTinTigger> guga i dont know, but if ya mean ur passwords, u can export ur keychain
[06:29] <Tom_Davis> uplink: did you install ubuntu-desktop or gnome?
[06:30] <albino> jaakkome: found it, check out the manpage for 'interfaces'
[06:30] <chrziz> jim_o: it fixed my wireless which I had a lot of trouble with in 8.04 (atheros), and my sound works out of the box on my toshiba satellite
[06:30] <Uplink> Tom_Davis: ubuntu desktop... but i modified it myself
[06:30] <albino> jaakkome: Look under the section named "IFACE OPTIONS"
[06:30] <guga> kk, ty anyway ~~
[06:30] <keith1212131> is there any way to use my ipod class with ubuntu
[06:30] <Tom_Davis> well you probably modified out the volume control which puts a serious crimp in the sound
[06:30] <albino> jaakkome: tons of options it looks like, pre-down, down, post-down ...
[06:30] <mysticdarkhack> Greetings!
[06:30] <mib_e625nj2o> is there any way i can install on Intel Board D845 GBV and which version work best ?
[06:30] <Uplink> Tom_Davis: http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i130/carlosrc007/Ubuntu-Uplink.png
[06:30] <prince_jammys> mib_e625nj2o: that's an almost definite 'yes'. i think that's my model
[06:31] <mib_e625nj2o> thanks
[06:31] <Uplink> Tom_Davis: i have volute control on my keyboard... so its not volume
[06:31] <jim_p> Uplink: there is no segoe font in apt!
[06:31] <albino> jaakkome: but wireless link loss doesn't mean the interface will go down, right?
[06:31] <mib_e625nj2o> which version should i install ?
[06:31] <Uplink> jim_p: try terminus
[06:31] <mysticdarkhack> Anyone here knoww when I tried to login to guest account in intrepid, it when black even moving the mouse?
[06:31] <Tom_Davis> uplink: what is that thing with the bars like a cell phone?
[06:31] <mib_e625nj2o> to prince_jammys: which version of ubuntu should i install ?
[06:31] <Tom_Davis> bottom right
[06:32] <Uplink> Tom_Davis: lol my wi-fi
[06:32] <Tom_Davis> crud
[06:32] <mysticdarkhack> would this be a bug?
[06:32] <jim_p> Uplink: is it segoe or terminus you want? because they are fonts for different apps
[06:32] <RinTinTigger> Anyone to help me with my Desctop-effects?
[06:32] <Tom_Davis> ok right click the bar and see if you can add volume control to the bar
[06:32] <Uplink> jim_p: i got terminus already, thats how i got it... it was like apt-get ubuntu-font-terminus
[06:33] <mysticdarkhack> anyone?
[06:33] <Uplink> jim_p: something like that, i cant remember the command
[06:33] <jaakkome> albino: yep, I guess the interface has to be up for it to even begin to try to get a connection
[06:33] <jim_p> mysticdarkhack: what vga?
[06:33] <Anon3386> Hello all, I need grub help
[06:34] <jim_p> Uplink: terminus is in synaptic because its an opensource font. segoe cant be in there because its an ms font from vista
[06:34] <prince_jammys> mib_e625nj2o: most likely the 32 bit one.
[06:34] <Uplink> jim_p: ooh i see
[06:34] <mib_e625nj2o> hello everybody which version of ubuntu should i install on Intel D845GBV Board ?
[06:34] <_2> !grub > Anon3386
[06:34] <Uplink> jim_p: well thanx bud. i'll have to bend to see which other i like
[06:34] <albino> jaakkome: right, I think you'll have to something more advanced
[06:34] <Uplink> i just upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 and im getting no sound at all
[06:34] <albino> jaakkome: Like check if the interface is associated with the mac address of the Access Point
[06:35] <mysticdarkhack> I wonder if it my ati card that doesn't like intrepid when trying to login gues account
[06:35] <amrik> Hi I have a question regarding dual booting ubuntu and vista. if i install vista on a second hard drive with NTFS formatting witll ubuntu be able to read and write to the second hard drive?
[06:35] <amrik> ntfs partition i mean
[06:35] <Flannel> amrik: Yes.
[06:35] <mib_e625nj2o> prince_jammys - Thanks for the reply
[06:36] <Venin> doesnt ubuntu support rar extracting?
[06:36] <Uplink> Flannel: help me out please :( im getting no sound at all
[06:36] <albino> jaakkome: I know that there is some software specifically for this, to reconfigure networking depending on what essids are available, but my google skills are failing me right now
[06:36] <Venin> i rightclicked a rar file and "extract here" .. but it said unsupported format
[06:36] <prince_jammys> mib_e625nj2o: welcome.
[06:36] <_2> !rar > Venin
[06:36] <Assid> what the hell is up with the new release
[06:36] <amrik> Flannel: how stable is the NTFS write support?
[06:36] <Flannel> Uplink: I'm not a sound person, but...
[06:37] <Flannel> !audio | Uplink
[06:37] <Assid> the splash screen initially jumps back and forth for about 2 mins
[06:37] <mrono> when i try to play a DVD Totem says "Totem could not play this media (DVD) even though a plugin is present to handle it.
[06:37] <Venin> _2: ty
[06:37] <Tom_Davis> ok uplink right click your bar and add volume control to the bar
[06:37] <Flannel> amrik: It's been considered "stable" for over a year now.  You can read about it here: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/
[06:37] <kulbo> hi
[06:37] <albino> So how come when I search using packages.ubuntu.org, I only find two packages that have the name kernel-image in them but when I do apt-cach search kernel-image I get a ton more hits.  Is the web search that sucky?
[06:37] <prince_jammys> amrik: apparently quite stable, with ntfs-3g, though i don't do it out of pure paranoia.
[06:38] <kulbo> is there anybody can help me to figure out the way to install Atheros wireless card AR5413 on Ubuntu plz
[06:38] <Anon3386> ubuntu bot didn't help, still need help with grub problem
[06:38] <_2> albino linyx-image
[06:38] <Assid> why is it going sooo damn slow
[06:38] <djhash> Anon3386: whats ur problem?
[06:38] <RinTinTigger> can someone assist me getting my drivers and desktop effects up for this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/65808/
[06:38] <albino> _2: they changed the name from hardy to intrepid?
[06:39] <djhash> albino: hardy = ubuntu 8.04, Intrepid = 8.10
[06:39] <Assid> can someone explan t o me.. even the boot up is slow.. i tried using a usb live stick.. that didnt help
[06:39] <albino> djhash: THIS i KNOW
[06:39] <ljuwaidah> hi
[06:39] <jaakkome> albino: what I'm trying to do is pretty simple though, I'd just want to automatically mount stuff with sshfs when the wireless connects to something
[06:39] <Anon3386> screwed up grub then fixed grub but only half way
[06:39] <ljuwaidah> how can I get wine 1.1.* ?
[06:39] <_2> albino no, they changed the name from linux(kernel) version 2.4.* to 2.6.*
[06:39] <jim_p> !modem
[06:39] <ljuwaidah> !wine
[06:39] <albino> _2: but the package name should still be linux-image-...
[06:39] <ljuwaidah> :|
[06:40] <Uplink> Tom_Davis: gnome-alsamixer it was muted lmfao
[06:40] <ljuwaidah> !AppDB
[06:40] <djhash> albino: ok.. then ur question was not what u intended
[06:40] <freakabcd> hi all
[06:40] <Bernmeister> Tried to install 8.10 just now on a Dell laptop with Win XP already installed.  The Ubuntu partitioner failed to recognise Windows...so will instal over the top.  Anyone else have this issue?  BTW, I managed to install 8.04 on the same laptop without a problem...
[06:40] <albino> djhash: what did I intend?
[06:40] <freakabcd> anyone frustrated yet with pulseaudio?
[06:40] <freakabcd> it is driving me crazy
[06:40] <Petester> hi everyone
[06:40] <kyo> 中国
[06:40] <albino> jaakkome: I agree with you on that, what wireless configuration are you using, I wonder if wpa_supplicant can do what you want
[06:41] <albino> jaakkome: using wpa_supplicant you can define different wireless networks, maybe they have a cmd= option or something
 So how come when I search using packages.ubuntu.org,...ame kernel-image...apt-cach search kernel-image... <<<  the 2.6.* kernels have always been "linux-image*" pavkages
[06:41] <eumario> _2: That's cause, the kernel is litterally a small image.
[06:42]  * albino is confused
[06:42] <Flannel> linux-image-* is the Ubuntu kernel package.
[06:42] <albino> right
[06:42] <smokewon> Hi there, i have Ubuntu 8.04 Desktop installed on my machine, i see 8.10 has been released, but running sudo apt-get udpate && sudo apt-get upgrade will that update my system to 8.10?
[06:42] <Venin> so i tried unrar-free to extract the files. but it only creates a folder and nothing else happens
[06:42] <ljuwaidah> ubottu rocks
[06:42] <albino> so 'apt-cache search linux-image' shows a lot of possible kernel images
[06:42] <Flannel> smokewon: Not quite, no (that'll get you a fully up to date Hardy)
[06:42] <Flannel> !upgrade | smokewon
[06:42] <albino> what I'm trying to do is find them for intrepid
[06:42] <_2> eumario no. that's because kernel-image is a 2.4.* kernel not a 2.6.* kernel like the linux-image*s
[06:42] <Petester> can someone suggest me something so that I can find a friend in gaim by email>?
[06:43] <freakabcd> Venin, unrar-free can;t handle rar 3.0 files iirc fromt he description of the package
[06:43] <steelhoof> looking for an install image that will be happy on a usb flash drive than can be setup from windows.
[06:43] <freakabcd> check it for yourself in synaptic
[06:43] <edwardk_> i want to recompile the ubuntu kernel to change some options
[06:43] <steelhoof> server no has dvd drive, remote location with only a win32 laptop
[06:43] <jaakkome> albino: the network I'd be connecting to the most uses wep, not wpa
[06:43] <Venin> freakabcd: yeah.. i know.. but is it that common to compress with 3.0 ?
[06:43] <albino> _2: ahh finally, got it
[06:43] <eumario> _2: That's just a change in naming convention, it happens over time.
[06:43] <djhash> Anon3386: what do u mean half way.. you need to give more details..
[06:43] <Flannel> !install | steelhoof
[06:43] <albino> _2: thanks, I was a little slow there
[06:43] <steelhoof> !install
[06:43] <keith1212131> HELP, ive installed flash, but can not look at youtube
[06:43] <edwardk_> !kernel
[06:43] <albino> jaakkome: wpa_supplicant works with wep, the name is a misnomer
[06:43] <Gibbster> Hi Guys. I'm trying to get mail working on my new server, and while I can send mail out, I can't receive it. I was wondering if someone can hold my hand a bit
[06:44] <freakabcd> Venin, did you somehow expect the people using rar on windows xp/vista to be using an old version of rar?
[06:44] <_2> albino welcome
[06:44] <keith1212131> whats going on with it
[06:44] <albino> jaakkome: actually most of the networks I use it with are wep not wpa
[06:44] <freakabcd> they'll prolly be running the latest version
[06:44] <Uplink> Flannel: i have like 3 tabs on gnome alsa mixer
[06:44] <Flannel> _2, albino: those two kernel-image packages are for debian installer only.  Not regular systems.
[06:44] <freakabcd> which would generate 3.x files
[06:44] <albino> Flannel: yeah, I saw that.  That's why I was so confused they had 'di' in their name
[06:44] <Gibbster> If I try telnet localhost 25 locally, I get a response, but when I try telnet <ip> 25 externally, I can't connect
[06:44] <albino> So I knew that wasn't what I wanted
[06:44] <Venin> freakabcd: its a tv episode.. i figured they could even use linux :p
[06:44] <Ximal> Is there a way to password guard a folder ???
[06:44] <jaakkome> albino: oh, hmh... I still don't seem to be using that however
[06:44] <keith1212131> can anyone help me get youtube videos to play
[06:44] <eumario> Gibbster: Are you behind a Router?
[06:45] <freakabcd> Venin, they could. but unrar-nonfree is available from the repos :)
[06:45] <MyHeadHurts> While trying to install ubuntu for the first time, I got the error: GRUB loading, please wait... Error 2
[06:45] <nsgn> hello all. any mac users in here who have either switched to ubuntu or use both? i'm interested to talk to someone like this
[06:45] <Gibbster> eumario: I'm using linode, which is a vps provider
[06:45] <albino> jaakkome: I'm not sure about this, but if you're using default ubuntu you're likely using NetworkManager
[06:45] <jaakkome> yes, networkmanager is running
[06:46] <eumario> Gibbster: Okay, then you would basically need to make sure that Port 25 is being listened to on all addresses, and not just localhost.
[06:46] <jaakkome> and a program called nm-applet
[06:46] <Gibbster> eumario: sounds good. Care to guide me through that? ;-)
[06:46] <eumario> Gibbster: if you do a netstat -nat, and look for port 25, and it shows <IP_ADDRESS>::25, then you need to have it bind to all addresses, which is done through <IP_ADDRESS>::25
[06:47] <Assid> okay im starting to wonder if ibex is half baked
[06:47] <freakabcd> anyone have problems with pulseaudio and not being able to change volume from mplayer?
[06:47] <Assid> its seems to crash when i try to mount partitions in live
[06:47] <eumario> Gibbster: Which mailer are you using?
[06:47] <Formode> Hello, trying to get Moblock working, but I keep getting a error whenI try to install, can anyone help?
[06:47] <Assid> on my laptop starting takes forever
[06:47] <albino> jaakkome: this is way harder than it should be, for sure
[06:47] <Gibbster> eumario:tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:25            <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN
[06:47] <Gibbster> eumario:sendmail
[06:48] <keith1212131> does anyone know how to get youtube to work
[06:48] <APex> hi all
[06:48] <eumario> Gibbster: Alright, that means that sendmail is only listening to loopback, EG: <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:48] <APex> hello
[06:48] <Gibbster> keith: have you installed flash?
[06:48] <keith1212131> yea
[06:48] <APex> who uses ubuntu 8.10
[06:48] <keith1212131> that and everyother player for flv
[06:49] <Gibbster> eumario: hmm. do you know how to change that?
[06:49] <Gibbster> eumario: I'm a sendmail newbie, unfortunately
[06:49] <Petester> can someone tell me how i can search my budies by email in pidgin?
[06:49] <jaakkome> albino: yes, I would've figured the network manager thing would help me to run programs on different events as a feature
[06:49] <eumario> Gibbster: Sec, gotta look it up.  Been a while since I messed with sendmail for SMTP/POP
[06:49] <Gibbster> keith: so what happens when you browse to a youtube page?
[06:49] <Gibbster> keith: nothing at all? and does other flash sites work?
[06:50] <SpinachHead> hi, i can get apache2-dev installed, always says :
[06:50] <SpinachHead> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:50] <SpinachHead>   apache2-threaded-dev: Depends: libaprutil1-dev but it is not going to be installed
[06:50] <SpinachHead>   php5-dev: Depends: libssl-dev but it is not going to be installed
[06:50] <SpinachHead> E: Broken packages
[06:50] <FloodBot3> SpinachHead: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:50] <tsuna27> hellow
[06:50] <Gibbster> eumario: thanks for this!
[06:50] <SpinachHead> oops, sorry it was pidgins fault
[06:50] <tsuna27> hello*
[06:50] <djhash> keith1212131: just fyi.. the flash in youtube is not flv.. its swf..
[06:50] <albino> jaakkome: yep, me too, just looked at the manpage and the homepage for NetworkManager, very unimpressive
[06:50] <BoltClock> is anyone experiencing the alsa/networkmanager issue in intrepid?
[06:50] <Flannel> SpinachHead: Theres no package called apache2-dev
[06:50] <albino> jaakkome: no sort of information on how to do something like what you're after
[06:51] <paul68> is there a way to get the creative sound blaster xfi working under 8.10?
[06:51] <Ayabara> !info digikam-kde4
[06:51] <Ayabara> !info digikam
[06:51] <tsuna27> i am using wubi to dual boot XP an ubuntu how can i make ubuntu the default OS
[06:51] <Flannel> tsuna27: edit your boot.ini to make the ubuntu entry default
[06:51] <ljuwaidah> keith1212131: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:51] <tsuna27> flannel: how?
[06:52] <Ayabara> how can I find out if the digikam version is kde3 or kde4 (without installing it)?
[06:52] <Flannel> tsuna27: with a text editor would work.
[06:52] <albino> jaakkome: NetworkManager seems like it fits in with the gnome ecosystem, maybe you can query it with dbus apis
[06:52] <Flannel> Ayabara: In Intrepid, it's KDE4.  Since Intrepid only has KDE4
[06:52] <albino> jaakkome: If you're not much into programming though, that will be a lot of work
[06:52] <Bernmeister> wubi: Do you have a computer with WinXP installed first and you are now trying to install 8.10?
[06:52] <Ayabara> Flannel: are there no kde3 apps in the repos for intrepid?
[06:52] <ljuwaidah> I'm having an error saying that the signature for http://om.archives.ubuntu.com is invalid, where can I get the key from?
[06:53] <marcusU> I can't figure out how to specify my monitor in Ubuntu 8.10 without hand-editing config files. Where can I find this app? http://blog.mypapit.net/2007/08/ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-going-to-include-gui-xorgconf-configurator.html
[06:53] <Flannel> Ayabara: I don't know.  You'd want to ask in #kubuntu, I don't know how/if theres mixed versioning or whatnot
[06:53] <Bernmeister> tsuna27:  Do you have a computer with WinXP installed first and you are now trying to install 8.10?
[06:53] <Flannel> tsuna27: There's a default line there, change it to the other one.
[06:53] <tsuna27> wait what
[06:54] <marcusU> I really want something like Suse's sax2.
[06:54] <tsuna27> Flannel
[06:54] <RinTinTigger> anyone who can help me with intrepid 64bit and NO SOUND?
[06:54] <ljuwaidah> should I just import the gpg file here? http://om.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/
[06:54] <Flannel> tsuna27: in your boot.ini, there's a line default= blah blah blah, then an [operating systems] separator, and then lines for your OSes, change the default line
[06:54] <SpinachHead> oh, i meant php5-dev always gives me a depends on lib-ssl dev and then I cant get the dependency
[06:54] <tsuna27> flannel: where do i find boot.ini
[06:54] <Flannel> tsuna27: C:\boot.ini
[06:54] <SpinachHead> er, libssl-dev
[06:54] <jaakkome> albino: hmm... "NetworkManager exposes a DBUS service and API for [...] programs to obtain information about the network state and network devices"
[06:55] <Petester> does anyone know how i can assign backspace to the "back" comand?
[06:55] <thehongtt> My Flash player does not have any sound after upgrading to Ubuntu 8.10 :-(
[06:55] <ljuwaidah> thehongtt: install libflashsupport
[06:55] <ljuwaidah> I guess
[06:55] <Assid> okay seriously
[06:55] <Assid> whats wrong with intrepid
[06:55] <eeaaxx> anybody knows how to fix my gnome on ubuntu 8.10
[06:55] <Flannel> SpinachHead: You've got an unhealthy sources.list.  Are you mixing Ubuntu and debian versions? or mixing ubuntu versions or something?
[06:55] <ljuwaidah> Assid: It's cool?
[06:55] <eeaaxx> i got this messsage that the gnone theme was crashed
[06:55] <djhash> marcus: try "apt-cache search displayconfig-gtk"
[06:55] <Assid> it takes alot of time during that splash screen for it to start booting up
[06:56] <notdkw> Petester: In firefox? go to the address about:config, filter the search by backspace, then change the 2 to a 0.
[06:56] <Assid> this is on a dell d600 which has a working copy of hardy
[06:56] <Petester> thanks notdkw, what about in browser and such?
[06:56] <ljuwaidah> Assid: Are you kidding me? it takes me less than a minute to boot
[06:56] <Assid> i remember this problem previously in gutsy..
[06:56] <ljuwaidah> heck, it has the fastest boot time I've ever seen
[06:56] <notdkw> Petester: Couldn't tell you mate, sorry. :)
[06:56] <Flannel> Assid: Install bootchart and find out whats holding you up.
[06:56] <Assid> ljuwaidah: it happens on some machines..
[06:56] <Petester> hm alright, thanks =-)
[06:57] <RinTinTigger> yeah ljuwaidah ...intrapid is DAMN FAST
[06:57] <Petester> the firefox trick worked =)
[06:57] <djhash> !worksforme
[06:57] <Assid> Flannel: still on live cd
[06:57] <mrono> When i try to play a DVD in mplayer i get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/66077/
[06:57] <tsuna27> Flannel: im a total newb how can i find C:\boot.ini
[06:57] <BoltClock> help, ive been experiencing the alsa/networkmanager conflict since upgrading to intrepid. i can only hear crackling noises instead of sound now and my system takes ages to shutdown cleanly, stalling at alsa
[06:57] <ljuwaidah> RinTinTigger: Are you being sarcastic or something?
[06:57] <ljuwaidah> 'cause I'm not
[06:57] <thehongtt> ljuwaidah: I tried "sudo apt-get install libflashsupport", but: " Package libflashsupport has no installation candidate"
[06:57] <ljuwaidah> it really is fast
[06:57] <Assid> same problem existed in gutsy it would just go back and forth.. not eating any cpu.. just wasting my time
[06:57] <notdkw> Petester: good good. :)
[06:57] <RinTinTigger> No im serious ljuwaidah ...damn...intrepid is fast, i love it....if i just wuldnt be to stupid to get sound:/
[06:58] <ljuwaidah> thehongtt: wait! let me give you the link
[06:58] <thehongtt> ljuwaidah: :-)
[06:58] <Flannel> tsuna27: Er... C:\ is your windows drive... boot.ini is a file there.  Its easiest to do in windows, let me actually remember the dialog name.
[06:58] <tsuna27> wheres the C:\boot.ini in ubuntu
[06:58] <rdw200169> tsuna27: that's a windows file
[06:59] <Flannel> tsuna27: It's not.  It's in windows
[06:59] <BoltClock> tsuna27: Flannel is saying you have to do it in windows
[06:59] <thehongtt> tsuna27: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:59] <Assid> hrmm even the login takes a while
[06:59] <_2> tsuna27 might find it in /media/sda1/     just a guess
[06:59] <RinTinTigger> Is there anyone to help me with my 64Bit intrepid and NO SOUND???
[06:59] <BoltClock> could anybody help me with my intrepid alsa problem?
[06:59]  * Assid is wondering if he shouldupdate
[06:59] <RinTinTigger> BoltClock do you get NO sound?
[07:00] <sea> tsuna27:/boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:00] <BoltClock> RinTinTigger: mine crackles when sound is played
[07:00] <albino> jaakkome: sweet, you could use the python dbus bindings to get to the info I'm guessing
[07:00] <SpinachHead> yeah, Im having some problem with sources.list because Im getting a duplicate sources.list entry warning when trying to update....
[07:00] <Flannel> tsuna27: Alright, go to run, type "msconfig" then go to the boot.ini tab, click the ubuntu entry, and hit "set as default"
[07:00] <BoltClock> RinTinTigger: mine's 32-bit intrepid btw
[07:00] <Flannel> sea: no, that won't work.
[07:00] <RinTinTigger> BOltClock: i got completely NO sound :(
[07:00] <albino> jaakkome: fireing off a command after that would be cake
[07:00] <mrono> could someone help me with playing a dvd, i get this error when trying to play it in mplayer
[07:00] <mrono> http://paste.ubuntu.com/66077/
[07:00] <ljuwaidah> wait! I need to look it my logs
[07:00] <BoltClock> RinTinTigger: can your system shutdown cleanly without stalling anywhere?
[07:01] <RinTinTigger> BoltClock yeh....that works awesome
[07:01] <_2> Flannel you speaking M$ish again ?
[07:01] <msshams> i edited my partition with gparted. in gparted i see that 5.41 GiB of my partiotion is used. but i can't see any file in my partition. how can i solve it?
[07:01] <BoltClock> RinTinTigger: i think we have different issues :/
[07:01] <rdw200169> _2 i think we have a spy ;)
[07:01] <marcusU> djhash: I ran apt-cache search displayconfig-gtk but it didn't display anything or appear to do anything.
[07:01] <dr_willis> msshams,  how big is the partition total? What filesystem is on it?
[07:01] <RinTinTigger> BoltClock yeah ;)
[07:01] <jlulian38_> what's the name of the fun utility to turn a USB drive into a LiveCD (of sorts)
[07:01]  * Assid doesnt like ibex on his dell d600
[07:01] <marcusU> And synaptic can't find displayconfig-gtk at all.
[07:02] <Aeosynth> Is there an easy way to get programs to start minimized?
[07:02] <djhash> !usb
[07:02] <jlulian38_> thank you
[07:02] <BoltClock> RinTinTigger: and ive been completely ignored since 2 nights ago
[07:02] <bullgard4> On my Ubuntu 8.04.1 computer ran just the process gs (for Ghostscript) a long time and used 94% of the processor time. Has this been triggered by a weekly cronjob? To what purpose?
[07:02] <rdw200169> jlulian38_: or unetbootin
[07:02] <djhash> marcusU: do you have 8.10?
[07:02] <marcusU> Yes
[07:02] <Assid> its acting freakishly strange
[07:02] <RinTinTigger> BoltClock ...thats erm...kinda normal
[07:03] <djhash> marcusU: then it might be possible they don't have it for 8.10..
[07:03] <dr_willis> Not everyone knows every thing about every problem.. the forums are often the best bet for  some issues
[07:03] <jlulian38_> I just need a liveusb image so I can install ubuntu on my laptop (with a broken CD-Rom drivE)
[07:03] <marcusU> How do I configure X11 without hand-editing the configuration files?
[07:03] <mib_e625nj2o> Can i download Ubuntu 8.10 for installation to my Intel D845GBV board ?
[07:03] <BoltClock> RinTinTigger: i didnt use to be ignored to that extent :S and i have a queue of intrepid problems waiting to be solved too. i kinda regret upgrading :(
[07:03] <jlulian38_> -E +e
[07:03] <_2> what's the latest and greatest cli app for dvd burning ?
[07:03] <Uplink> how can i get a clear color panel?
[07:03] <jaakkome> albino: Yep, that shouldn't be *so* much work afterall. :]
[07:03] <Oprtz> i cant watch streaming  WMV 9 inside the firefox browser. w32codecs and ubuntu-restricted-package is already installed
[07:03] <ziroday> marcusU: what card?
[07:03] <rdw200169> mib_e625nj2o: is there something special about that mobo?
[07:03] <dr_willis> mib_e625nj2o,  you can download ubuntu 8.10 - yes.. about that specific bord.. no idea..  why do you think it would be an issue?
[07:03] <mib_e625nj2o> Can i download Ubuntu 8.10 for installation to my Intel D845GBV board ?
[07:03] <marcusU> No card.
[07:04] <RinTinTigger> BoltClock Never give up....just be agressive on that....itll help u out
[07:04] <BoltClock> RinTinTigger: :) thanks
[07:04] <djhash> marcusU: your video card.. what is it? or video chip..
[07:04] <crxyem> so, I'm running 8.10 now, but for some reason every time I start firefox, it loads on top off panels, without a tool bar that would alow you to minimize or maximize etc.. any ideas ??
[07:04] <mib_e625nj2o> rdw200169 - nothing special on the mobo
[07:04] <ziroday> marcusU: what graphics card (hint: you have to have one)
[07:04] <_2> marcusU sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg # does that not work for you ?
[07:04] <rdw200169> mib_e625nj2o: shouldn't be a problem then
[07:04] <marcusU> It's an nVidia nForce4 chipset.
[07:04] <RinTinTigger> BoltClock: have you already tried his "options" entry in the alsa-base?
[07:04] <_2> marcusU or maybe  X -configure   ?
[07:04] <BoltClock> RinTinTigger: er... what? :S
[07:04] <mib_e625nj2o> rdw200169 - thanks
[07:05] <msshams> dr_willis: 210 GiB and ext3
[07:05] <rdw200169> mib_e625nj2o: play it save and get the 32bit (i386) version
[07:05] <Yoshi> nope didnt work
[07:05] <rdw200169> mib_e625nj2o: *safe
[07:05] <RinTinTigger> BoltClock gimme a secound, ill get u a link
[07:05] <ziroday> mib_e625nj2o: if you are unsure, you can always test it out on the livecd first
[07:05] <Aeosynth> Can I get Firefox to start minimized? (It's already starting automatically)
[07:05] <Lancelot> what's kNetAttatch?
[07:05] <marcusU> I really wish they had Sax2 or something equivalent for Ubuntu.
[07:05] <dr_willis> msshams,  well 5% is normally reserved for 'root, and lost+found' space.. it maybe showing that.
[07:05] <paul68> is there a way to get the creative sound blaster xfi working under 8.10?
[07:05] <MFen> does anyone know a simple way to get a list of all packages which are not part of the ubuntu distribution? i.e. any packages from a third-party apt archive, and any which were installed manually from deb?
[07:05] <RinTinTigger> BOltClock what soundcard do u use?
[07:05] <SpinachHead> wheres the list of heron repos again?
[07:06] <mib_e625nj2o> ziroday - i have got 7.03 Live CD but can't read. so i have to download another Live CD
[07:06] <BoltClock> RinTinTigger: actually im not very sure...
[07:06] <marcusU> Looks like it's back to suse.
[07:06] <Flannel> !mirrors | SpinachHead
[07:06] <ziroday> mib_e625nj2o: get the latest version, 8.10
[07:07] <ljuwaidah> thehongtt: what's your error again?
[07:07] <ljuwaidah> RinTinTigger: have you tried installing libflashsupport?
[07:07] <joegiampaoli> anyone have better news for intrepid against hardy?
[07:07] <paul68> is there a way to get the creative sound blaster xfi working under 8.10?
[07:07] <RinTinTigger> ljuwaidah what does that do?
[07:08] <_2> ouch!  X -configure   asks me no questions and breaks the config file.
[07:08] <ljuwaidah> RinTinTigger: You don't have sound in flash player, right?
[07:08] <sea> install all update first.
[07:08] <ziroday> _2: you can do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:08] <hackercompany> how to upgrade to interpid through a desktop cd
[07:08] <hackercompany> ???/
[07:08] <RinTinTigger> ljuwaidah i dont have ANY sound at all :(
[07:08] <johnklindstedt> Hellohello. I've got some troubling Edgy issues.
[07:08] <ziroday> hackercompany: you can't
[07:08] <msshams> dr_willis: i have 2 partition. one for / and another for my files. this partition that show 5.4 GiB used is 2nd partition. but i can't see anything on it
[07:08] <djhash> paul68: go to www.creative.com, click on support.. they have a BETA driver for Linux...
[07:09] <Lancelot> what's kNetAttatch?
[07:09] <am4zin> paul--__, which of the xfi-cards?
[07:09] <dr_willis> msshams,  if ls -al , dosent show anything i would imagine it is the reserved space.
[07:09] <ljuwaidah> RinTinTigger: I had that problem too, all I needed was to add 1 line in the end of alsa-base and it's working now
[07:09] <djhash> paul68: remember.. it is BETA.. so don't be shocked if it doesn't work 100%..
[07:09] <_2> ziroday i can use the working .conf too.   that's not the point.
[07:09] <am4zin> paul--__, my xfi xtreme gamer is working with oss-drivers
[07:09] <paul68> am4zin the fatalty1
[07:09] <BoltClock> ljuwaidah: for me, i get crackling noises instead
[07:09] <ziroday> _2: sorry, whats the point?
[07:09] <smokewon> w00t upgrading to Ibex right now, pretty slick interface design
[07:09] <msshams> dr_willis: when i try to ls -la i see this:
[07:09] <msshams> total 448
[07:09] <msshams> drwxrwxrwx   3 root root   4096 2008-11-02 00:37 .
[07:09] <msshams> drwxr-xr-x   4 root root   4096 2008-11-02 10:25 ..
[07:09] <msshams> drwx------ 228 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-11-02 09:37 lost+found
[07:09] <FloodBot3> msshams: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:09] <Lancelot> what's kNetAttatch?
[07:09] <Lancelot> what's kNetAttatch?
[07:10] <Lancelot> what's kNetAttatch?
[07:10] <FloodBot3> Lancelot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:10] <_2> ziroday point being,  what is meant to fix, actually breaks what isn't yet broken.
[07:10] <ziroday> Lancelot: ask in #kubuntu
[07:10] <RinTinTigger> ljuwaidah ...thats what i did...i added "options snd_hda_intel model=generic" also tried model=auto
[07:10] <paul68> am4zin: is it easy to install
[07:10] <ljuwaidah> RinTinTigger: That's what I did
[07:10] <_2> ziroday that shouldn't happen.
[07:10] <msshams> dr_willis: can you see that it say 448 total files?
[07:10] <ziroday> _2: you can go talk to the people in #ubuntu-x
[07:10] <joegiampaoli> I think i have problems with IRC can someone please tell me if you can see what im typing?
[07:10] <johnklindstedt> I recently installed Edgy from a live disc on this laptop and I'm having trouble upgrading.
[07:10] <ziroday> joegiampaoli: we can't
[07:10] <johnklindstedt> I see you joe.
[07:11] <RinTinTigger> ljuwaidah that didnt work :(
[07:11] <joegiampaoli> :) lol
[07:11] <am4zin> paul68, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[07:11] <elamsusa> hi, does anyone have experience with bootcamp on a Mac?
[07:11] <_2> ziroday is that like,   "we don't want to hear it!"   or what ?
[07:11] <joegiampaoli> ok, for some reason when I use IRC after a while my connection drops any ideas?
[07:11] <Lancelot> ziroday: thank you for your help
[07:11] <Uplink> i just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and my flash in firefox is not working
[07:11] <ljuwaidah> RinTinTigger: Did you check your volume levels? mine were low by default
[07:11] <paul68> am4zin: thanks
[07:11] <Assid> why the hell does the fonts go all supernova size on me and bold when i choose subpixel smoothening
[07:12] <ziroday> _2: no its like, I am not sure, and don't think this is the best place to ask. The pro's live in #ubuntu-x, ask there
[07:12] <dr_willis> msshams,  it shows 448 files but you dont see any of them by name?  thats weird.. You could just reformat the filesystem if  thers nonting you want on it.
[07:12] <tsuna27> Flannel: ah i did what u said but now i lost my AWN dock
[07:12] <joeKr2> I just installed 8.10, but I only have dialup (serial modem), and 8.10 comes without PPP, etc.  Is there a way I can use my outgoing 8.04 setup to manually download and install gnome-ppp (and any dependencies?) without using Synaptic? Then when I boot 8.10, I can manually install gnome-ppp, and thereafter start using Synaptic in the usual way?  (This is like having a LAN card and no driver, LOL)
[07:12] <jaakkome> albino: Well, thanks for your help, I think I found all I need to get that working now.
[07:12] <sea> Uplink: reinstall
[07:12] <Flannel> tsuna27: That makes no sense.  Changing your boot order will make no difference to anything in Ubuntu
[07:12]  * Assid is having wayy too manyy issues with ibex
[07:12] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[07:12] <smokewon> hey there is it safe to browse the internet with firefox(or play a particular Java game) while the Distribution Upgrade does its thing in the background?
[07:12] <Lancelot> ello!
[07:12] <Flannel> smokewon: Yep
[07:12] <smokewon> cool
[07:13] <MyHeadHurts> Gah. Anyone with knowledge in how to fix GRUB errors please message me. I'm a first time linux installer.
[07:13] <tsuna27> Flannel: what can i do 2 get it back
[07:13] <msshams> dr_willis: i need them files. do you have any idea?
[07:13] <raddy> It seems even 8.10 too has same old ugly artwork :(
[07:13] <RinTinTigger> ljuwaidah i checked on alsa-mixer, and level is high, but strange is, it doesnt sho my hda_intel as soundcard, it shows pulseaudio
[07:13] <Flannel> tsuna27: turn it on again, reenable, whatever.
[07:13] <djhash> MyHeadHurts: what errors are you getting
[07:13] <MyHeadHurts> Error 2
[07:13] <johnklindstedt> I can't get an upgrade starting from 6.10. I get both Authentication failures and failed repository checks. I've resolved each separately only to have them come back.
[07:13] <ljuwaidah> RinTinTigger: Mine shows HAD NVidia (it used to show this even before I edit the conf file)
[07:14] <dr_willis> msshams,  so... you need files that are not showing up  ?
[07:14] <tsuna27> Flannel: also how can i share files btw my OS's for example share songs from XP on2 ubuntu w/o copying all the songs
[07:14] <mrono> can someone help me with playing a dvd, i get this error when trying to play it in mplayer
[07:14] <mrono> http://paste.ubuntu.com/66077/
[07:14] <RinTinTigger> ljuwaidah i dunno what else to do
[07:14] <_2> MyHeadHurts where are you getting "error 2" ?
[07:14] <djhash> MyHeadHurts: Grub was configured improperly..
[07:14] <dr_willis> msshams,  the total is the total # of K of the files it sees.. from what i can tell.. not the # of files.
[07:15] <djhash> MyHeadHurts: are you getting it after you select a boot option or before?
[07:15] <thehongtt> ljuwaidah: It worked well :-) thanks
[07:15] <ljuwaidah> RinTinTigger: Did you restart your comp? :P
[07:15] <MyHeadHurts> Before
[07:15] <msshams> i edited my partition with gparted. in gparted i see that 5.41 GiB of my partiotion is used. but i can't see any file in my partition. how can i solve it?
[07:15] <ljuwaidah> thehongtt: congrats, what did you do?
[07:15] <RinTinTigger> ljuwaidah more than several times
[07:15] <ljuwaidah> RinTinTigger: lol
[07:16] <MyHeadHurts> GRUB Loading stage1.5. GRUB LOADING, please wait... Error 2
[07:16] <djhash> MyHeadHurts: you need to reinstall grub and make sure you tell it properly which drive to boot from.. check !grub
[07:16] <djhash> !grub
[07:16] <dubi> hello
[07:16] <Ansus> hi people
[07:16] <tsuna27> does any1 noe if i can update ubuntu while using wubi
[07:16] <rdw200169> dubi Ansus hello!
[07:16] <RinTinTigger> ljuwaidah ^^
[07:16] <zzznn> hi
[07:16] <rdw200169> tsuna27: you should just login to ubuntu normally and update
[07:17] <dubi> rdw 200169 whenever i click hardware drivers, there is no choice to choose... in hardy my cards were there :(
[07:17] <MyHeadHurts> !grub
[07:17] <johnklindstedt> Hello! I'm unable to upgrade from an old Edgy version, and I'm wondering if the errors are fixable, or if I should simply reinstall with the latest version?
[07:17] <gaurdro> what does a {u} or {a} after a package name mean?
[07:17] <Ansus> does anybody use icon themes& it seems most of them do not work properly with Intrepid and Hardy
[07:17] <rdw200169> dubi: what hardware are you trying to fix? i'm assuming nvidia
[07:18] <gaurdro> johnklindstedt, you need to do incremental upgrades from edgy up to current.  ie multiple steps instead of one single step
[07:18] <dubi> rdw200169: yes an old nvidia geforce
[07:18] <rdw200169> dubi: b/c ubuntu is having some problems w/nvidia in 8.10 for certain video cards
[07:18] <dubi> uh oh
[07:18] <ljuwaidah> thehongtt: for future reference, what did you do?
[07:18] <johnklindstedt> Ah, yes. That seems to be the case. But my upgrade utility is broken.
[07:18] <rdw200169> dubi: yeah, you're being forced into using the open source nvidia driver due to some proprietary driver issues
[07:18] <johnklindstedt> er, @ gaurdro
[07:18] <dubi> rdw200169, does this mean oh darn,
[07:18] <dubi> i just upgraded i knew i shouldnt have upgraded
[07:19] <gaurdro> what errors is it giving you?
[07:19] <rdw200169> dubi: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#nVidia%20%22legacy%22%20video%20support
[07:19] <johnklindstedt> gaurdro: one moment, I'll go reproduce them.
[07:19] <dubi> rdw200169: thanks ^_^ now i wish i didnt upgrade x_x
[07:19] <rdw200169> dubi: i'm so sorry!
[07:19] <ljuwaidah> dubi: Why?
[07:19] <tsuna27> !wubi
[07:20] <gaurdro> johnklindstedt, please put them in a pastbin as to not flood the channel
[07:20] <friendlyghost> can i run ubuntu on a ntfs partition?
[07:20] <rdw200169> friendlyghost: no
[07:20] <friendlyghost> ok
[07:20] <_2> friendlyghost yes.
[07:20] <ziroday> friendlyghost: nope, but you can use wubi to install it inside windows
[07:20] <rdw200169> dubi: i have no clue
[07:20] <johnklindstedt> gaurdro: understood. ... I may take a bit longer ^^
[07:20] <djhash> ok.. i have a file "pidfile".. i want its contents appended to kill ... to use in a single line terminal entry
[07:20]  * Anon3386 is away
[07:20] <friendlyghost> _2: yes?
[07:20] <_2> !wubi > friendlyghost
[07:20]  * Anon3386 is away
[07:20] <dubi> ljuwaidah: will be transitioned on upgrade to the free nv driver instead. This driver does not support 3D acceleration.
[07:20] <ljuwaidah> dubi: what's your prob?
[07:20] <djhash> !away | Anon3386
[07:20] <rdw200169> _2: i make  a distinction b/w windows and just NTFS
[07:20] <Petester> i need some help...
[07:21] <friendlyghost> nah, i don't need to install it inside windows. see rdw200169's comment
[07:21] <dubi> ljuwaidah: nvidia on 8.10
[07:21] <Petester> somehow the scroll in firefox is extremely laggy for me
[07:21] <Petester> but even compiz works compeltely fine
[07:21] <dr_willis> friendlyghost,  i would say avoide using 'wubi' unless yoi have no other options.. and you could just use  virtualbox and run ubuntu inside a virtual machine on windows, if you really wanttd to just test it out.
[07:21] <rdw200169> _2: b/c he might be talking aobut a shared drive or something
[07:21] <_2> rdw200169 i was just answering the question as it was asked.
[07:21] <dubi> ljuwaidah: i knew something was wrong with ibex...
[07:21] <friendlyghost> rdw200169: i was
[07:21] <ljuwaidah> dubi: yes, I got that part, what's the problem with it?
[07:21] <friendlyghost> thanks anyway, _2
[07:22] <Flannel> dr_willis, friendlyghost: that's rediculous.  wubi is a far better choice than virtualization.
[07:22] <cuco> hi all, i am trying to set a static ip to my machine (8.10, 64bit). however, even tough my router has been feed with the correct mac address, it still refuses to give this computer the needed address. any ideas what i might messed up?
[07:22] <rdw200169> friendlyghost: now, depending on whether or not you want to use wubi, you could do some windows tricks regarding whether or not you keep 'program files' on another partition
[07:22] <ljuwaidah> you just use the hardware drivers option in administration
[07:22] <rdw200169> friendlyghost: but that's outside my scope of caring about windows ;)
[07:22] <dr_willis> Flannel,  not for my needs.. and given the # of isses i see people ahve with wubi.. i  wont ever reccomend wubi
[07:22] <dubi> ljuwaidah: in system>administration>hardware drivers its blank. no choice for nvidia card , no nothing
[07:22] <EatShrooms> Hello, how can I save my running applications in their workstation when I shutdown? When I restart all my applications get cluttered onto the first workstation desk
[07:22] <mrono> http://paste.ubuntu.com/66077/ this is the error that i get when i try to play a dvd in mplayer, can anyone help?
[07:22] <cuco> 2nd question: ok, so lets use static ip using network manager... this does work, but for some reason my internal dns addresses fail to work (and the correct dns server is set in /etc/resolv.conf). again, any tips?
[07:23] <rdw200169> friendlyghost: regardless, a normal ubuntu install insists on ext3, ext2, etc... and prefers, defaults, to ext3
[07:23] <friendlyghost> rdw200169: nevermind, it was pretty specific - have a usb external drive, wanted to copy a back up of my ubuntu on to it, & run it from it, but the drive is already ntfs, so no go
[07:23] <Uplink> how do i get rid of all the old kernels i have?
[07:23] <_2> and the wubi methood lets you install ubuntu withing a file on an ntfs partition friendlyghost & rdw200169    if i'm not mistaken...   that means you "run ubuntu on a ntfs partition?"
[07:23] <Yoshi> at this point i am tempted to just install from the penddrive
[07:23] <rdw200169> rdw200169: in this case, ntfs will never work, because of the permissions etc... related to the subtle difference b/w the way unix does things and windows
[07:23] <Yoshi> since i aint upgraded yet
[07:24] <_2> can run ^
[07:24] <ljuwaidah> dubi: Sorry, that's the only way I know
[07:24] <rdw200169> whoops, i meant friendlyghost
[07:24] <wartalker> Uplink: dpkg -r
[07:24] <rdw200169> not myself ..
[07:24] <friendlyghost> rdw200169: yeah
[07:24] <msshams> i edited my partition with gparted. in gparted i see that 5.41 GiB of my partiotion is used. but i can't see any file in my partition. how can i solve it?
[07:24] <gaurdro> uplink, sudo apt-get remove linux-image-version_you_wish_to_remove-generic
[07:24] <dubi> ljuwaidah: ok :(
[07:24] <tsuna27> does any1 noe if i can use files from windows on linux while i dual boot
[07:24] <johnklindstedt> here is the first set of errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66086/
[07:24] <eazel7> does anyone knows where can I find a mono-intrepid ibex repository?
[07:25] <rdw200169> friendlyghost: it's always bad to put unix stuff on a windows partition b/c it screws up, deletes, all the unix specific permissions and owner/group stuff
[07:25] <Uplink> I thought 8.10 would have that problem solved? >:(
[07:25] <Flannel> eazel7: mono for intrepid?
[07:25] <djhash> msshams: how about formating the drive? ofcourse if it doesnt have any files you need..
[07:26] <_2> is "tar"  a file system ?
[07:26] <eazel7> Flannel: right, I'd like to test some things in the 2.0 version and I don't want to mess up anything (I'm not a .deb maker, no idea on that)
[07:26] <djhash> !tar
[07:26] <rdw200169> _2: no, it's a compressed file type
[07:26] <eumario> Now it's time for me to retire, to reboot this system, and hopefully get it working on the kernel, and video card.
[07:26] <Flannel> eazel7: mono is in the regular Intrepid repos.  both 1.0 and 2.0
[07:26] <eumario> L8ers everyone.
[07:26] <rdw200169> _2, right, compressed
[07:26] <_2> rdw200169 tar is not compressed
[07:26] <Flannel> rdw200169, _2: tar isn't compressed, just concatenated.
[07:26] <msshams> djhash: i don't format it. just move and grow up partition size.
[07:26] <tsuna27> Flannel: how can i get my music from XP 2 play on ubuntu w/o copying again
[07:26] <Petester> can omebody help me so the scroll in firefox becomes less laggy?
[07:26] <keith1212131> simple
[07:26] <eazel7> latest is 1.9.1 I think, but for sure not the 2.0 one
[07:26] <keith1212131> use rockbox
[07:26] <rdw200169> Flannel: i've been slapped!
[07:27] <Flannel> tsuna27: Normally you can just mount/read your NTFS drives, but I have no idea regarding if thats doable with wubi.
[07:27] <keith1212131> and add the folder with all ur mp3s
[07:27] <favro> !who | keith1212131
[07:27] <keith1212131> sorry
[07:27] <djhash> msshams: i'm not asking you if you formatted it.. i'm telling you.. if there are no files in there that you want.. then you can re-format it..
[07:27] <favro> np
[07:27] <johnklindstedt> I'm having trouble upgrading from Edgy. I'm getting repository errors.
[07:27] <raddy> It seems even 8.10 too has same old ugly artwork :(
[07:27] <zzznn> why can't play rmvb format file ?
[07:27] <ljuwaidah> YES! I have office 2007 on linux, WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO
[07:27] <eazel7> tsuna27: if it's wubi, point to /host
[07:28] <eazel7> tsuna27: there you will have your Windows file (if it's wubi)
[07:28] <am4zin> o.O
[07:28] <msshams> djhash: no, i need them. that files are critically.
[07:28] <_2> Flannel but is it (tar) a filesystem, technechly speaking ?
[07:28] <keith1212131> tsun: just add the folder that has all ur  mp3s
[07:28] <Flannel> _2: nah, its a file format
[07:28] <keith1212131> tsun: in rockbox
[07:28] <tsuna27> eazel7: yes i hav wubi
[07:29] <zzznn> help
[07:29] <_2> Flannel hmmm,   then i'm using floppy disks with no file system on them at all.   storing files and dirs full of files on them.
[07:29] <Reynastus> Hey guys i was just wondering if there was a way to consolidate all the mounted drives that i have into one nice tidy place on my desktop
[07:29] <Flannel> johnklindstedt: Edgy has been out of support (EOL) for over six months now.  Most of the mirrors have been offline for at least a few months.  You should consider upgrading.  Feisty (what you'll be upgrading to) is also EOL now.  So you'll need to do at least two upgrades to get to a currently supported version.
[07:29] <eazel7> tsuna27: just do alt+f2 and type /host, that will take you to your windows partition ;)
[07:30] <dr_willis> Reynastus,  ive often just made a directory that had a bunch of soft links to the varius mounted drives I have.  Sincei had one box with 8 hard drives..
[07:30] <mib_p3kyb6> #vmware
[07:30] <djhash> msshams: what do you get when you "ls -al" in the drive
[07:30] <johnklindstedt> Flannel: Ah, phew. I was beginning to think that was the problem, I simply couldn't get a straight answer from google.
[07:30] <joeKr2> I just installed 8.10, but I only have dialup (serial modem), and 8.10 comes without PPP, etc.  Is there a way I can use my outgoing 8.04 setup to manually download and install gnome-ppp (and any dependencies?) without using Synaptic? Then when I boot 8.10, I can manually install gnome-ppp, and thereafter start using Synaptic in the usual way?  (This is like having a LAN card and no driver, LOL)
[07:30] <johnklindstedt> So, might a reinstall with a more recent LiveCD be a good option?
[07:31] <Flannel> johnklindstedt: That'd certainly be quicker.  Might I suggest 8.04, which is an LTS.  You won't have to upgrade for another 3 years (and you can upgrade straight to 10.04)
[07:31] <Reynastus> dr_willis: ive got 6 different partitions, and having those all scattered on the desktop kind of clutters it, how do i go about making a directory for the mounted drive links go into?
[07:31] <_2> so, wubi lets you install linux without a file system ?    only a file format ?      /me goes to google.
[07:31] <Flannel> johnklindstedt: you can upgrade of course, if you'd prefer.  But a fresh install will undoubtedly be quicker in your time, and your download time.
[07:32] <dr_willis> Reynastus,  make a directory/folder, use ln -s command, or the file manager to make links to their mountpoints
[07:32] <ljuwaidah> I'm so happy
[07:32] <ljuwaidah> it even starts faster than on vista!
[07:32] <msshams> djhash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66088/
[07:32] <johnklindstedt> Flannel: I believe it's my only option. I can't even get an upgrade to execute.
[07:32] <joeKr2> Reynastus:  aren't they all in /media or /mnt or something already ?
[07:32] <Flannel> johnklindstedt: Well, thats because you're pointing at bad repositories, etc.
[07:32] <dr_willis> msshams,  you did look in the lost+found directory?
[07:32] <johnklindstedt> Flannel: Catch 22.
[07:33] <djhash> msshams: do "cd lost+found" and then  "ls -al"
[07:33] <johnklindstedt> Flannel: Thank you, sir. You've set me on the proper track.
[07:33] <Flannel> johnklindstedt: Nah, theres an archive of old repositoris (in case you wanted to go back and try out Warty or something) online.
[07:33] <Reynastus> joeKr2: yeah they mount into /media/sda1 etc, but on the desktop ubuntu is putting links to the /media/sda1etc and thats what i was hoping to tidy up a little more
[07:33] <admin_masu3701> hello
[07:34] <admin_masu3701> my computer can go on suspende or hibernate
[07:34] <joeKr2> Reynastus:  OK
[07:34] <bob_> In 8.04 how can you tell if Compiz is running?
[07:34] <martin-de-1983> hi, i have a problem with some of my mp3 files
[07:34] <admin_masu3701> any help
[07:34] <johnklindstedt> Flannel: Oh? Hmm... If I wanted to use them to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty (which is a bastard of a process of course) how might I go about that? Insert some archive entries into my source.list?
[07:34] <msshams> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66089/
[07:34] <_2> johnklindstedt as Flannel was just mentioning you only need to change your sources.list and you can still use any of the old versions
[07:34] <keith1212131> i must say, i am impressed
[07:34] <Flannel> johnklindstedt: instead of archive.ubuntu.com, old-releases.ubuntu.com
[07:35] <djhash> msshams: type "find"
[07:35] <johnklindstedt> Interesting. Allow me to take a look!
[07:35] <Flannel> johnklindstedt: then use update-manager (which you need to again, jump through some hoops for, because it autogenerates some things), and that'll work.  Let me get you the bugreport with the workaround for update-manager
[07:35] <ljuwaidah> bob_: system > administration > system monitor
[07:35] <ljuwaidah> check if you have compiz there
[07:35] <dr_willis> msshams,  looks like you had some file system curruption - and it moved a lot of things to lost+found
[07:35] <keith1212131> rhythmbox will synic with ipod
[07:35] <eazel7> ok, so I guess that nobody tried mono 2.0 on ibex
[07:35] <martin-de-1983> my files do not contain id3 tags the files are named in the pattern "interpret - title.mp3" is there any opportunity to create the id3 tags (and not only interpret and title)
[07:35] <keith1212131> the class too
[07:35] <dr_willis> msshams,  explore the lost+found directory and see if you fiond any files you want to keep
[07:36] <Assid> why does having subpixel make the fonts bold?
[07:36] <djhash> dr_willis: he says.. critical.. and he moves and resize partition without backing up.. not his lucky day
[07:37] <johnklindstedt> Flannel: Much obliged.
[07:37] <msshams> dr_willis: i see many file like that links in that folder. how can i find?
[07:37] <Flannel> johnklindstedt: I believe this is the one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/update-manager/+bug/241431  but let me know if that doesn't actually have a fix
[07:37] <dr_willis> msshams,  explore the directory using the shell or whatever filemanager you want..  look at the file contents
[07:37] <itai-michaelson> can any gentle soul send me the flash player for ubuntu hardy, adobe's website keeps timing out on me
[07:37] <bob_> ljuwaidah- so if it doesnt show in "processes" it's not running?
[07:37] <ljuwaidah> bob_: probably :)
[07:38] <ljuwaidah> bob_: I have compiz, compize-docorator, and compiz.real
[07:38] <digitalvectorz> anyone know why my Creative Live! webcam will work in cheese, but not in kopete?
[07:38] <ljuwaidah> bob_: You can also check in your appearance preferences
[07:39] <msshams> dr_willis: that files are empty
[07:39] <dubi> can anyone help me with installation of beta driver for nvidia legacy?
[07:39] <dubi> here: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122139
[07:39] <bob_> ljuwaidah: I am having trouble with my mouse pointer moving my curser. just like "Dwell click" were turned on
[07:39] <dr_willis> msshams,  check all of them.. i would guess one or more are what are taking up some of your space.  of course recovering them may be impossible.. but y would go thorugh eacy dierctory and look at the files and see if any seem to be worth backing up.
[07:39] <tsuna27> if I was not using Wubi could i still use that /host thing 2 access XP files
[07:40] <johnklindstedt> Flannel: The problem with the workaround is that do-release-upgrade doesn't ask me if I'd like to continue with a mirror, it simply calls me a blasphemer and exits.
[07:40] <ljuwaidah> bob_: Are you sure it's not turned on? ;)
[07:40] <Flannel> johnklindstedt: intruiging.
[07:40] <bob_> I'm not sure of anything.......BAhahahaha