[00:18] <grid-> going to bed..laters
[00:40] <diskLess2> Hello.  I am trying to follow this link, yet... I don't understnad *how* I add this Oracle PPA to my system.   Link --> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2382314
[00:40] <diskLess2> Everything I read says to add the PPA name.. yet I don't know the name, what I have is the URL... and I believe that is not the way to add a PPA
[00:47] <theorem> curious -- if I upgraded to Ubuntu 17.10, and now I can't see a GUI login -- where do I need to start looking ?  I have to switch to an emergency term (alt+F2) to use the computer -- but it's otherwise up.
[00:48] <theorem> ah, hmm, looks like syslog
[00:49] <Bashing-om> theorem: Broken graphic's driver ? What shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' .
[00:49] <theorem> checking ..
[00:49] <theorem> looks like it picked it up
[00:50] <theorem> I am seeing X errors -- hang on going to have to type this out ...
[00:50] <Bashing-om> !paste | theorem
[00:50] <elitedev> quit
[00:51] <diskLess2> Can somebody please shed some light into my PPA question?  I am reading up on the topic, yet can't make head or tails around it.
[00:52] <theorem> "Failed to get current display configuration state" ... 'GDBus.Error :org.freedesktop.DBus.Error..NameHasNoOwner: Name: "org.gnome.Mutter.DisplayConfig" does not exist'
[00:52] <theorem> not a paste -- copied visually.
[00:55] <theorem> also .. "XF86RFKill is not a valid accelerator"
[00:56] <Bashing-om> theorem: mutter I think == wayland DE .. you using nvidia for the graphics ? Have you tried the Xorg session ?
[00:57] <theorem> Bashing-om: using an AMD Radeon card
[00:58] <theorem> Bashing-om: the error message in syslog reports a bunch of "resource temporarily unavailable on X server :0"
[00:58] <theorem> how can I try the X session ?
[00:59] <theorem> oh .. this is pointing me at the X server logs ...  let's see ...
[01:00] <Bashing-om> theorem: Humm ... Giess we can look at what the gpu-manager has to say : ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' and pass the resulting link back here .
[01:01] <theorem> Bashing-om: clever trick , I'll give that a go.
[01:02] <theorem> Bashing-om: www.termbin.com/34ec
[01:02] <CheetahPixie> Good evening, folks.
[01:02] <CheetahPixie> I'm here on Unity, and I encountered some pretty weird breakage.
[01:03] <CheetahPixie> I can use ctrl+arrows to switch workspaces horizontally, and not vertically.
[01:03] <CheetahPixie> What's up with that?
[01:03] <theorem> CheetahPixie: sounds like a bad keyboard mapping.
[01:03] <theorem> does changing the shortcut mapping fix it ?
[01:04] <theorem> Bashing-om: the log there lookgs pretty benign ..
[01:04] <CheetahPixie> I have no idea where that stuff even is.
[01:04] <CheetahPixie> theorem
[01:04] <CheetahPixie> It definitely is a keymap *somewhere* gone haywire.
[01:04] <CheetahPixie> It's I believe the only issue that I have.
[01:05] <CheetahPixie> I've been trying to look for these keybinds.
[01:05] <CheetahPixie> Unity Tweak Tool and Compizconfig can't find them.
[01:05] <theorem> CheetahPixie: check the system in the upper right hand corner -- system settings has some of it.
[01:05] <CheetahPixie> Another oddity: My workspaces wrap.
[01:06] <CheetahPixie> Where would that be here?
[01:06] <Bashing-om> theorem: We;;, we do have a mystery here " Kernel Module is not loaded" . is it available ' lsmod | grep amdgpu ' .
[01:06] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[01:06] <CheetahPixie> yeah
[01:07] <CheetahPixie> something is weird about these binds, for sure
[01:07] <kenrin> So check your shortcuts and fix them
[01:07] <theorem> Bashing-om: yes, it's loaded
[01:08] <CheetahPixie> For some reason, the keys to move a window up and down a workspace were bound to shift+super+page#.
[01:08] <theorem> Bashing-om: now .. I am reading the X logs, want to look at those too ? one thing to mention I do have 2 mice attached.
[01:08] <CheetahPixie> ...whereas it should be shift+ctrl+alt+arrow
[01:08] <CheetahPixie> yup
[01:08] <CheetahPixie> super+page# for workspaces up and down
[01:08] <Bashing-om> theorem: K. what card do you have ;' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA ' .
[01:09] <CheetahPixie> works now, thanks sir theorem
[01:09] <theorem> CheetahPixie: great !
[01:09] <theorem> checking ...
[01:09] <CheetahPixie> So far, I have found I believe three things that seem to be missing/broken about installing Unity on 17.10.
[01:10] <CheetahPixie> This was one of the,.þ
[01:10] <CheetahPixie> This was one of them.
[01:10] <theorem> Bashing-om: yes, it's detected, however, the GPU version detected is not the version of the GPU I have -- it detects a Radeon 470/480 , but I have a 580.
[01:11] <CheetahPixie> So, essentially.
[01:11] <theorem> Bashing-om: termbin.com/1zwh
[01:11] <CheetahPixie> For full Unity on 17.10, there are some components missing.
[01:11] <theorem> ^ for X
[01:11] <CheetahPixie> notify-osd is one of them, and I believe Rhythmbox was another, but not sure.
[01:11] <CheetahPixie> The second "gripe" I have is that its buttons are not showing up in the volume menu by default; I have to open the player first.
[01:11] <CheetahPixie> Never had to on 17.04 and previously.
[01:12] <CheetahPixie> The third issue: This. Keybinds.
[01:12] <Bashing-om> theorem: I be a while reading that log file .
[01:13] <CheetahPixie> Thanks guys, I will be seeing you around.
[01:14] <theorem> Bashing-om: not to worry, it's a quick skim.
[01:15] <theorem> Bashing-om: "adding input device" ... there are 2 errors there which might be a red herring
[01:16] <kenrin> Is there like a guide on how to use the installations partition tool?  I don't see a way to remove|create LVM
[01:17] <salamandyr> i just purchased a dell XPS 9370 (win version) and want to wipe it out and configure it as the same machine comes from dell in Developer Edition, with their version of Ubuntu.. any idea if the images or installers are available for nonstandard versions of Ubuntu like that?
[01:19] <R0b0t1> So after upgrading to 17.10, my installation immediately shuts down after booting it
[01:19] <R0b0t1> Hopefully someone can help
[01:19] <theorem> salamandyr: due to licensing restrictions they will need to distribute the customizations available publicly.  This may or may not be on their website somewhere.
[01:19] <R0b0t1> I found similar questions about 16.10(?) related to WiFi, and this may be a regression; for some reason my server tries to start WiFi
[01:19] <salamandyr> thanks theorem
[01:19] <R0b0t1> I'm just going to point out
[01:19] <R0b0t1> This is >10 years and over 4 dist-upgrades that have never worked
[01:20] <theorem> R0b0t1: I am fighting with 17.10 too.
[01:21] <theorem> R0b0t1: try liveCD booting to modify the network settings ?  I find that incredibly strange for an immediate shutdown due to wifi.
[01:21] <R0b0t1> Yeah, I suppose I can try that
[01:21] <kenrin> Well I'm lost,  I'll just do the partitions via livecd before install
[01:23] <theorem> kenrin: normall installs today grab the entire disk.  why the need for LVM ?
[01:23] <kenrin> I have two disks and want to encrypt only one of them
[01:24] <theorem> got it.
[01:24] <kenrin> The installer doesn't even let me remove the previous LVM mounts
[01:24] <theorem> it's probably very dumb.
[01:24] <theorem> switch to emergency term ?  alt + F4  ?
[01:25] <Jordan_U> salamandyr: I've found https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/sln265886/how-to-create-a-dell-ubuntu-image-on-your-dell-pc?lang=en from a quick search, but I have no experience with it personally. If it were me, I would just install unmodified upstream Ubuntu. Note also that even if you have the same "model" of laptop, it may come with slightly different components than the developer edition.
[01:25] <theorem> Bashing-om: any hints ?  The X log I saw there doesn't help me :-/
[01:25] <salamandyr> looks like i can generate the right iso download for a particular Dell here http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/drivers/osiso/linux
[01:26] <salamandyr> will prob do that Jordan_U, thanks
[01:26] <Jordan_U> salamandyr: You're welcome.
[01:29] <Bashing-om> theorem: X from the log appears happy as can be . What results when you log into the guest account ?
[01:30] <theorem> Bashing-om: I am unable to see a GUI login at all
[01:30] <theorem> do you want my syslog to see the errors ?  that seems to be the most telling
[01:31] <theorem> it's weird that gpu-manager.log reports that the module is not loaded too.
[01:31] <kenrin> Oh that is fun,  I got the force UEFI installation message then the installer crashed
[01:32] <theorem> Bashing-om: I am on 4 different terms , outside of X at the moment. (alt+F#-ing around)
[01:36] <theorem> Bashing-om: sending the last 13500 lines .. hang on ..
[01:37] <selabs> join #litecoin
[01:37] <theorem> sell #litecoin
[01:41] <theorem> Bashing-om: termbin.com/qi6g
[01:42] <kenrin> I tried the installer again,  I can't get past the force UEFI message.  I must be doing something wrong
[01:42] <theorem> where does one configure the windowmanager ?
[01:42] <theorem> .xconfig ?
[01:51] <Bashing-om> theorem: reading.
[01:52] <theorem_> ugh
[01:53] <theorem> so when I do a "startx"
[01:53] <theorem> I get a black screen
[01:53] <theorem> I see the mouse flicker for a moment
[01:53] <theorem> then it's all black , and I can't exit what I believe is X
[01:54] <theorem> even Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't work.
[01:54] <Jordan_U> theorem: Can you switch away with ctrl+alt+F3?
[01:55] <theorem> Jordan_U: nope, locked in there
[01:55] <theorem> I don't know if I have logs from the session, had to hard reboot
[01:55] <Jordan_U> theorem: Can you ssh into the machine?
[01:56] <Jordan_U> theorem: Enable sysrq magic so that you can use things like alt+sysrq+k in the future.
[01:56] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | theorem
[01:56] <theorem> never heard of this, ok.
[01:58] <theorem> is there any way to get startx to output some detail to logs ?
[02:00] <strive> theorem: Just redirect the output to a file.
[02:01] <strive> theorem: startx > $HOME/startx.log 2>&1
[02:01] <theorem> got it.
[02:01] <theorem> thanks, trying that
[02:03] <theorem> looks like it just hangs.
[02:03] <theorem> yep, just sits on the terminal -- no output , and logs are empty.
[02:03] <theorem> 0% CPU
[02:05] <theorem> got it .. reached a timeout.  "Only console users are allowed to run the X server"  .. "xinit: giving up"   going to try with sudo ..
[02:05] <Bashing-om> theorem: NO !
[02:05] <strive> Don't run it as root.
[02:06] <Bashing-om> theorem: sudo with invalid startx command then root owns your home !
[02:09] <theorem> ah -- can you repeat that , I had it running as root, but the same freeze occured.
[02:09] <theorem> I briefly saw a "NO!"
[02:09] <theorem> as I tried to kill the process from another terminal
[02:09] <theorem> but it was too late.
[02:10] <Bashing-om> theorem: < Bashing-om> theorem: sudo with invalid startx command then root owns your home ! // and now we got to fix .
[02:10] <theorem> ah.
[02:10] <theorem> looks like ... . I bet its because i know not press the X button on a popup...Yeah i bet thats it.  Here in the 0's robots do our work, Cletus.   I still can't believe a bug that serious is still open 3+ years later though
[02:12] <eoppkweguggca> Anyone who says "F/OSS" is a tool.     It's like True vs. Nu metal.  That's pretty hilarious if so, seeing as how most gay people have basic short hair.
[02:12] <Zachary> what is the point of gay marriage ? marriage as an institution exists to keep people who don't love each other together for the benefit of their offspring . why do gays want this?
[02:12] <strive> That's a lot of support in a matter of seconds...
[02:12] <Sartore> whistle core is actually popular in japan it caught quite well and know where seeing various new whistle core bands come out of the country like the blue mist dogs, fire in the attic, lazor beem, robo boy vs the laviathan and various others its just a matter of time till they hit the charts here
[02:12] <Baghawi> Saying that Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders.
[02:12] <Bashing-om> theorem: Where I am at now in the syslog : " 5.530105] AMD IOMMUv2 functionality not available on this system " got any IOMMU settings in bios ?
[02:12] <Gonzalez> My friend, I bet you haven't read the terms and conditions for this forum.... Take cover, you are about to be flamed!
[02:12] <Zachary> For instance: throughout all of my time in elementary school there was this one kid who would go to the bathroom so he could poop. But he had a phobia of water splashing up his crack or something like that.  It was weird when you would go to the bathroom and you would see a burgundy loaf on the floor of the
[02:12] <Gonzalez> Can anyone tell me how many times these high and mighty evolution scientists have already backpedalled and changed their version of the truth to fit some new finding? I've already lost the count... pathetic, really.
[02:12] <theorem> are we getting troled by a couple bots ?
[02:12] <Baghawi> Hey /b/, I have a very serious problem.  She lives about 20 minutes away, and the movie we were supposed to see started at 4:15, which was in about 40 minutes. I figured "cool, I'll just play Pokemon while I wait".So I'm playing Pokemon, and having a pretty damn good time. Anyway, she finally does sho
[02:12] <Sartore> Again and again and again, I grow weary of junior high school English teachers trying to correct people's speech only because they encounter language forms they aren't familiar with. For the love of Mary, face it! Your English is only good enough to teach the average Mexican or Cambodian refugee to put together three-syllable words into coherent sentences used to beg for money, alcohol, drugs or shelter.   The fresh fart from an athletic male.  Ohhh yes it's good, sweet and pungent. An aromatic fecal luncheon! with delicate bouquet and wispy taste, this fart's among the best I've faced.  Your nose wrinkled in abject disgust?  Oh no, it's good.  Try it--you must! Farts are nature's true delight. If you want some, theres no need to fight!  Just wait for me to
[02:13] <Sartore> one time i tried to stick an egg back into a chicken, i think it gave the chicken an orgasm because all this liquid came out all over my hands and the chicken started to squawk and flap its wings. maybe im weird but this was a major turn-on!
[02:13] <Gonzalez> Dr. Huxtable broke into the clinic and held me at gunpoint. I was his patient, in for my yearly pap smear. I couldn't believe it when he came in the door for the exam with a machete in his hands. He demanded that I take off my clothes, and begin to fellate him. He waved the machete around like a madman, so i complied.  Then I rubbed my clit and got off ohh yeah
[02:13] <Sartore> one time i smoked so much weed i got to like level 99 of being high then i kept smoking and my high reset back to level 0 and i was perfectly sober except my hair turned yellow
[02:13] <theorem> Bashing-om: I'm not familiar with IOMMU
[02:15] <theorem> Bashing-om: it looks like the startx as root gave me something to look for
[02:16] <Bashing-om> theorem: IOMMU – input / output memory management unit support . Is your bios too old ( 8 cores - i doubt that old ) to have IOMMU .
[02:16] <arooni> how do i make alt tab go to most recent apps
[02:17] <theorem> "symbol lookup error : ...undefined symbol : xreallocarray"  ... notably this is with the amdgpu drivers in /opt/amdgpu/...
[02:17] <theorem> Bashing-om: I think my BIOS is from 2014
[02:17] <theorem> I'll check dmidecode
[02:18] <theorem> Bashing-om: 8/15/2014 , ASUS Z87-A is the mobo.
[02:21] <theorem> Bashing-om: I will try to remove the amdgpu drivers from the system.  I believe that Ubuntu now has native AMD Radeon drivers ?
[02:22] <R0b0t1> Hello where are boot logs
[02:22] <R0b0t1> I am trying to figure out why a server shuts down as soon as it is up
[02:22] <R0b0t1> sometimes there is a delay of a few minutes
[02:22] <theorem> R0b0t1: dmesg
[02:22] <theorem> R0b0t1: or /var/log/syslog
[02:23] <theorem> shutdown like that is usually attributed to a bad PSU , or the CPU is too hot.
[02:24] <robson> GDRRUR
[02:24] <Bashing-om> theorem: YES ! AMF drivers are in the kernel . also - ya got a drive dieing ? "  24.914637] ata11: SError: { UnrecovData 10B8B BadCRC } " .
[02:24] <Jordan_U> R0b0t1: journalctl (dmesg will only give you the current boot's dmesg and journalctl gives, IMHO, a better presentation of previous boot's data, along with options for grabbing specific log data).
[02:24] <kenrin> memory issues do that too
[02:24] <Jordan_U> (Than /var/log/syslog)
[02:24] <kenrin> Although usually they just kernel panic
[02:25] <R0b0t1> Jordan_U: No entries found
[02:25] <theorem> Bashing-om: yeah it's dying .. but I'm having a little trouble finding it in the array of 16 HDDs
[02:26] <theorem> Bashing-om: removing the drivers ... looks like it's touching the kernel a bit .. hmm
[02:26] <jpb> I am attempting to install 17.10 in UEFI on a laptop w Windows 10 installed. The OS appears to be installed, but I don't get a grub menu at boot. boot-repair requests turning off secure boot, but that leaves me unable to boot from usb.
[02:26] <theorem> going to give this a reboot and see if the removal works ..
[02:26] <theorem> brb
[02:33] <Jordan_U> R0b0t1: Does the directory /var/log/journal/ exist?
[02:33] <R0b0t1> Mp
[02:34] <R0b0t1> No
[02:34] <R0b0t1> /var/log/syslog exists
[02:34] <Jordan_U> R0b0t1: OK. If you want a persistant systemd journal then you need to create that directory. If you're happy with /var/log/syslog you can leave things as-is.
[02:34] <R0b0t1> The last thing is "stopped getty on tty1" and then "started getty on tty1"
[02:35] <R0b0t1> Do I need to create it
[02:35] <R0b0t1> I can't find any relevant info
[02:38] <Jordan_U> R0b0t1: I would recommend doing so, by running "sudo mkdir /var/log/journal && sudo systemd-tmpfiles --create --prefix /var/log/journal && systemctl restart systemd-journald". That said, doing so won't (directly) help you out of this particular problem.
[02:39] <R0b0t1> Ok
[02:39] <R0b0t1> I'll look next time it sotps
[02:39] <R0b0t1> stops
[02:40] <R0b0t1> Ah right it might be a kernel issue
[02:40] <R0b0t1> In which case this might not be fixable
[02:40] <R0b0t1> That is
[02:40] <R0b0t1> Wow
[02:40] <R0b0t1> I'm not sure I would ever give Canonical money after this
[02:40] <kayvee> Hello! Does anyone know how to get new emoji sets installed on pidgin? I copied unicode-emojis to .purple/smileys/ folder but they don't show up in Pidgin Preferences > Themes > Smileys
[02:43] <theorem> ok
[02:43] <theorem> some progress
[02:43] <theorem> not there yet
[02:44] <theorem> now, every few seconds the display is flashing between the terminal, some kind of gpu-switching garbled screen and a black screen.
[02:44] <theorem> it's on a loop forever
[02:44] <theorem> Bashing-om: hints ?
[02:44] <lamont> upgraded my laptop to 17.10 (finally), and no login screen...  I would dearly love to not do a reinstall.  The last line on the (non-quiet non-splash) bootup is "Started Update UTMP about System Runlevel Changes."
[02:44] <lamont> any thoughts on what the upgrade failed to change in the unity -> gdm3 switch?
[02:45] <theorem> lamont: sounds like you and I have similar problems.
[02:47] <Bashing-om> theorem: Not really - what DE
[02:47] <Bashing-om> theorem: ' echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE ' ?
[02:47] <theorem> Bashing-om: I am seeing a different error message in syslog
[02:47] <theorem> 1 sec, can paste
[02:48] <theorem> https://pastebin.com/EqgTsnU0
[02:49] <theorem> Bashing-om: I can't get onto the terminal now with the screen flashing as it is ... so from my ssh session for "echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE" , it's empty
[02:50] <lamont> logged in on tty2, same thing here
[02:50] <juniorTechnician> hello guys, I've been assigned to change the IP address of a hostname at work, so I went into /etc/hosts and didn't see that specific hostname (I saw others), is there any other file where you can set up hosts in ubuntu? doing "ping hostname" works so the host must be stored somewhere
[02:51] <theorem> juniorTechnician: oh my young grasshopper -- you have a lot to learn.  look into DNS.
[02:51] <lamont> i915 driver, fwiw
[02:51] <Bashing-om> theorem: This is a Virtual Machine .. and I just do not have the know how here .
[02:51] <theorem> lamont: I might have that too .. that's intel's GPU on-chip ?
[02:51] <lamont> yep
[02:52] <lamont> sudo lspci -v | less
[02:52] <lamont> then search for VGA
[02:52] <theorem> lamont: I a trying to get it working with a real GPU , but that might be a related factor.
[02:52] <theorem> ah, nm, it looks like it's disabled at the BIOS when I installed the new GPU
[02:52] <theorem> not showing there
[02:53]  * lamont needs to wander, but will be back in the morning, hoping for magically successful hints... highlight me if you sort it out?
[02:53] <theorem> sure
[02:53] <lamont> thanks
[02:53] <knapptime|home> hey guys, when i bump my laptop, my screen rotates...any ideas on how i can prevent this?
[02:53] <theorem> I think I am going to reinstall my AMD GPU drivers.
[02:54] <theorem> oh, interesting now, the display has stopped trying, but is instead frozen on the terminal
[02:54] <theorem> ssh session still works ..
[02:54] <lamont> mine doesn;t even try. :/
[02:55] <lamont> you are AMD, not Nvidia?
[02:55] <theorem> yes
[02:55] <lamont> whatever 17.10 had (prerelease), it hated my Nvidia card.  just sayin
[02:56] <lamont> and with that, really gone
[02:56] <theorem> Bashing-om: could the run as root before have tripped things up ?  how does one recover from trying to run startx as root (sudo)
[02:56] <Bashing-om> Julien-zte: systemd ? see :  ' man hostnamectl ' in terminal .
[02:59] <knapptime|home> oh dang i figured it out, apparently my laptop has an accelerometer!
[02:59] <Bashing-om> theorem: depends on what all got changed . what shows ' ls -al /home/<user_name>/ ' ?
[03:00] <theorem> I have a bunch of stuff there
[03:00] <theorem> how about I grp for root ?
[03:00] <theorem> *grep
[03:03] <Bashing-om> theorem: The only file that "should be "root owned" : drwxr-xr-x  3 root  root    4096 Oct 16  2016 ..
[03:04] <SkaMan814> Hi all, has anyone heard of an Asus A88X-PLUS, with bios version 2901, recognizing usb drives but not listing them under the boot options?
[03:04] <theorem> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/yuTjCGnJ
[03:06] <diego_> hola
[03:06] <diego_> hola
[03:07] <marioxcc> Hello.
[03:07] <diego_> como vas
[03:07] <marioxcc> How is the “root” kernel parameter passed by GRUB interpreted?
[03:07] <diego_> como?
[03:07] <theorem> Bashing-om: so , should I chown -R those root owned directories ?
[03:08] <marioxcc> The documentation I was able to find says that it is the root filesystem, but on the other hand, it says that the initrd is the root filesystem. Which one is true?
[03:08] <Bashing-om> theorem: ouch . try ' sudo chmod -R a+rwX,o-w /home/$USER ' I have no idea of what "AMDAPPSDK-3.0" is, but sure can not be good for the default AMD driver .
[03:10] <chand_> hi
[03:10] <theorem> Bashing-om: don't I need a chown in there ?
[03:11] <Jordan_U> marioxcc: During early boot the initramfs is used as the root filesystem. It contains useful userland utilities for finding and mounting the real root. After the real root is found and mounted (IIRC to /root/, not that it matters) the pivot_root command is used to make the real root filesystem be used rather than the temporary initramfs.
[03:13] <marioxcc> Jordan_U: Ok, thanks for answering but I already know that. My question is, if the root filesystem is initially the contents of the initrd, then what is the role of “root=...”?
[03:13] <theorem> Bashing-om: going to change .gvfs because I think it's related to $USER:$USER owned.
[03:13] <marioxcc> Is it simlpy ignored by Linux (the kernel) and passed to /bin/init?
[03:13] <theorem> brb , rebooting
[03:14] <Bashing-om> theorem: In this instance cjown is not good enough . Setting octal is the better practice . this sets All directories will be 775. and All files will be 664 except those that were set as executable to begin with.
[03:14] <Jordan_U> marioxcc: The initramfs scripts parse the kernel parameters from /proc/cmdline, extract the UUID from the root=UUID=foo kernel parameter, then mount the partition containing the filesystem with that UUID to /root/, then pivot_root to /root/.
[03:15] <marioxcc> Jordan_U: Ok, so, are you implying that, the kernel itself does not interpret “root=” when using an initrd?
[03:15] <Jordan_U> marioxcc: Correct.
[03:15] <marioxcc> Jordan_U: Alright; thanks; that is what I wanted to know.
[03:15] <Jordan_U> marioxcc: You're welcome.
[03:16] <theorem> no dice , same issue with the permissions change
[03:18] <theorem> seems related : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1274013
[03:21] <SkaMan814> why does a bios need a favorites tab, lol (rhetorical question)
[03:21] <theorem> overclocking ?
[03:23] <SkaMan814> ya, that's what I figured.  I've been trying to get this mobo to boot my usb for 2 hours now, and thought "who the hell would want to spend this much time dealing with BIOS, that they have a favorites tab?"
[03:25] <SkaMan814> so, anyone ever heard of a flash drive being recognized under the bios usb configuration menu but not under the boot priority menu???
[03:26] <theorem> SkaMan814: yes, it sounds like your USB drive is not bootable.  the partition needs a boot flag set.
[03:27] <theorem> https://superuser.com/questions/1099139/set-bootable-flag-on-usb-from-windows
[03:28] <SkaMan814> theorem, you just may be a genius!
[03:28] <SkaMan814> ty
[03:33] <SkaMan814> well theorem, that post doesn't actually address the issue.  I'll check the usb on gparted to see if the boot flag is set on the stick.
[03:33] <theorem> SkaMan814: yep, do that
[03:33] <theorem> also, Bashing-om -- good news !  I got it fixed !
[03:34] <theorem> I have to use the AMD provided drivers.
[03:34] <Bashing-om> theorem: tell more :)
[03:34] <theorem> the Ubuntu provided drivers do not function.
[03:35] <theorem> Bashing-om: so it seems that when I upgraded I also upgraded the kernel, and there are some installation steps that associate/build some dependencies for the kernel with the proprietary drivers.  these needed to be recompiled/re-associated wit hthe new kernel before things worked.
[03:37] <SkaMan814> theorem, the boot flag is / was set.  Any other suggestions?
[03:37] <Bashing-om> theorem: Yup - proprietary drivers do break ,
[03:42] <Jordan_U> SkaMan814: How did you prepare this USB drive to be bootable?
[03:43] <lapion> hmm apparantly shim-signed depends on shim however shim and shim signed are mutually exclusive according to the dependancy check
[03:45] <sadtaco> when I need the full path, how do I execute something like "./file" when not in that directory?  I'm trying to execute it as a service.
[03:45] <Jordan_U> lapion: According to what dependency check? What command are you running? Please pastebin its complete output.
[03:46] <SkaMan814> Jordan_U, I used the Universal USB Installer (running on my brother's windows machine.) I'm actually trying to intall Tails on a USB, and that's the program their site recommends to prepare the USB.
[03:46] <lapion> this is in aptitude
[03:46] <SkaMan814> Every other bios I've worked with will at least recognize the usb and list it as a boot option, even if there's no OS on it.
[03:46] <Jordan_U> sadtaco: Just provide the path. For example "/path/to/file" will work as will a relative path of "to/file" (if the current directory in this example as "/path/".
[03:47] <SkaMan814> I'm going to try and update the bios, but we'll see if I can do that without a USB stick, lol
[03:47] <sadtaco> when I do /path/to/file as the command then it is missing configuration and stuff that is in its folder.
[03:47] <lapion> after installing hwe apparantly shim-signed is not welcome anymore
[03:47] <sadtaco> And doesn't run as I'd intend
[03:48] <S31Y4> hello
[03:48] <S31Y4> Goblod
[03:48] <Jordan_U> sadtaco: What program are you trying to start? Please pastebin your systemd service file (assuming you're creating a systemd service).
[03:48] <S31Y4> Wtf
[03:49] <lapion> apt-get also remove shim signed
[03:50] <Jordan_U> lapion: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt install shim-signed".
[03:51] <sadtaco> It's a miner. And bleh I'm not on that machine but basically it's ExecStart="/home/user/Zec Miner/miner" where miner is the executable. In its folder is a config that is only loading when running ./miner from that folder.
[03:52] <Quenz> In Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 LTS, using GPU driver nvidia-340, when clicking the Activities button to bring up the Activities Overview, a green glitchy bar at the bottom makes appears and disappears, especially when moving the mouse around different GUI elements.
[03:52] <sadtaco> Maybe setting WorkingDirectory to "/home/user/Zec Miner/" would help but I thought there was some other way around this that I should be aware of
[03:53] <Jordan_U> sadtaco: Not unless Zec Miner has a parameter you can pass it to tell it where its files are.
[03:54] <lapion> Jordan_U, I did bot apt install shim-signed and apt install shim-signed shim https://pastebin.com/PGxGSBPa
[03:56] <sadtaco> I read the man for WorkingDirectory but I don't quite get how it works.  If I had it set to "/home/user/Zec Miner/" then would my ExecStart just be "./miner"?
[03:56] <Jordan_U> lapion: "you have held broken packages" do you have any held packages?
[03:56] <lapion> Jordan_U, no
[03:58] <sadtaco> ah I think I know what to do
[03:58] <lapion> iat least aptitude cannot find broken
[03:59] <drunktard32> what does "mount -t proc proc /proc" do?
[03:59] <jonny_b> I installed Ubuntu 17.10 in dual boot with Windows 10, but GRUB doesn't show at boot.
[04:00] <lapion> Jordan_U, how can I detect any holds ?
[04:03] <lapion> better said how can i get apt to show me if any packages have been held
[04:04] <Deihmos> just heard about this. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/c50ICdTc/Capture.JPG
[04:12] <sadtaco> I got it. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, Jordan
[04:22] <rnhk> exit
[04:26] <lapion> https://pastebin.com/PGxGSBPa
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> lapion: unmet dependecies occur when you add external ppa's to your ubuntu system
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> lapion: we reccomend using only ubuntu's repos and cleanout your system from the external ppa's
[04:34] <Bashing-om> !info shim xenial | lapion
[04:34] <lapion> none of the ppas are grub related
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> lapion: that doesnt matter, ppa's can scramble your system anyway even if its unrelated
[04:36] <lapion> what about canonical partners ?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> !partner | lapion the users choice
[04:37] <bobsmith83> question:  my SSD is being filled to capacity by a syslog file.  any clues where to start??
[04:37] <tatertotz> bobsmith83: are you chatting from the computer right now? yes or no
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> bobsmith83: how big is your ssd?
[04:37] <lapion> I disabled all ppa ( skype, teamviewer etc) let me check now
[04:37] <bobsmith83> no
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !sources | lapion
[04:38] <tatertotz> bobsmith83: do you have physical access to the computer right now? yes or no
[04:38] <Bashing-om> lapion: "sysop@x1604:~$ apt list shim >> shim/xenial-updates 0.9+1474479173.6c180c6-1ubuntu1 amd64 " . Show us ' apt policy shim shim-signed ' . see where your elevated version is coming from .
[04:38] <bobsmith83> no
[04:38] <lapion> shim is already the newest version (13-0ubuntu2).
[04:38] <lapion> who says there is no shim in xenial
[04:39] <lapion> without any ppas
[04:39] <lapion> still
[04:39] <lapion>  shim-signed : Depends: shim (= 0.9+1474479173.6c180c6-1ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[04:40] <Checkmate> hello Mail server with postfix, can send but not receive
[04:40] <Checkmate>  mails !!
[04:40] <bobsmith83> tatertotz: i should come back when I'm at the machine...
[04:40] <lapion> hmm shim-signed depends on specific shim package version
[04:40] <tatertotz> bobsmith83: ideally
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> bobsmith83: i clean out system with bleachbit
[04:41] <bobsmith83> SSD is a samsung 850 series (not pro) and its just 256GB
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> bobsmith83: syslog cant eat 256gig
[04:41] <bobsmith83> but my syslog exploded to over 100GB in no time
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> bobsmith83: can you prove that?
[04:41] <alocer> bobsmith83, wtf !!!
[04:42] <bobsmith83> right!?
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> bobsmith83: we never seen that before :p
[04:42] <Bashing-om> lapion: See my xx:38 time entry .
[04:43] <lapion> got it allready just selected the other version of shim
[04:45] <lapion> Bashing-om, I have no shim directory to redirect the output to is there any reason for me to redirect the output to a file in a shim directory ?
[04:46] <Bashing-om> lapion: No hands on experience to advise .. My box is bios-MBR based .
[04:47] <lapion> Bashing-om, you wanted me to append the output to shim/xenial-updates 0.9+1474479173.6c180c6-1ubuntu1 amd6 quote: "sysop@x1604:~$ apt list shim >> shim/xenial-updates 0.9+1474479173.6c180c6-1ubuntu1 amd64 "
[04:48] <lapion> sorry need to catch some zzs
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> lapion: shim and shim-signed are listed via my apt-cache, so its in repos ' for my version)
[04:49] <Bashing-om> lapion: NO .. that was the result of my command to show that the shim package does exist ...
[04:51] <Checkmate> what is the best service to install for received and send mails on ubuntu vps??
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> Checkmate: on ubuntu-server?
[04:53] <Checkmate> yes
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> Checkmate: try #ubuntu-server mate, they might know something for you
[04:54] <Checkmate> what is ubuntu server?
[04:54] <Checkmate> i have no idea
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !server | Checkmate
[04:55] <Checkmate> how to know if i have ubuntu server or not
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> Checkmate: you rent a virtual private server? vps?
[04:55] <Checkmate> yes
[04:59] <Checkmate> * #ubuntu-server :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with service
[05:00] <Bashing-om> !register | Checkmate
[05:01] <Checkmate> already registred
[05:02] <alocer> !help
[05:02] <krytarik> Checkmate: You aren't logged in right now though.
[05:02] <alocer> how should i know the '!' commands ? i forgot what was the package check command.
[05:03] <Checkmate> i lost password maybe
[05:03] <alocer> !info tripwire xenial
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot > alocer
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> sketch_: best not join irc as root, logout and come back as normal user
[05:25] <RonWhoCares> how do I set the missing locale values --- this is where I am at @ http://dpaste.com/0JFM1GJ
[05:26] <alocer> RonWhoCares, i don't think you miss any you have all of them set . \
[05:26] <RonWhoCares> I am getting errors
[05:27] <alocer> and the error is ....
[05:49] <mak_> hello all
[05:50] <mak_> can i 1) watch netflix on ubuntu and 2) play android games on ubuntu?
[05:51] <mak_> using toshiba netbook with atom n280; seems laggy and slow
[05:51] <mak_> hello
[05:52] <mak_> oops no one is answering; logging off
[05:54] <alocer> !patience | mak_
[06:09] <daddy0> when i go into Ubuntu Software, why is there 2 different VLC, and 2 diff HEXCHAT etc
[06:09] <tatertotz> daddy0: are you chatting from the computer right now? yes or no
[06:09] <daddy0> yes
[06:09] <tatertotz> daddy0: open terminal
[06:09] <daddy0> k
[06:10] <tatertotz> daddy0: apt search vlc|nc termbin.com 9999
[06:10] <tatertotz> daddy0: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[06:11] <daddy0> http://termbin.com/n9bf
[06:11] <tatertotz> daddy0: apt search hexchat|nc termbin.com 9999
[06:11] <tatertotz> daddy0: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[06:12] <krystal> hey all - anyone got any ideas for a non-penguin dinners for those not going tonight? Not a Sydney native and unsure if there's already something planned...
[06:12] <daddy0> http://termbin.com/59uc
[06:12] <tatertotz> daddy0: you have vlc/bionic,now 3.0.0~rc4-1ubuntu1 amd64 [installed]
[06:12] <daddy0> but how do new users know which one to install from ubuntu software?
[06:13] <daddy0> vlc is 3.0 rc4
[06:13] <tatertotz> daddy0: you have hexchat/bionic,now 2.12.4-5build2 amd64 [installed]
[06:13] <tatertotz> daddy0: there are no "duplicates"
[06:13] <daddy0> yes
[06:14] <daddy0> in ubuntu software center, there is VLC< and there is VLC media player
[06:14] <daddy0> one has alot of reviews, and the other has none
[06:14] <daddy0> just weird how do new users know which to install
[06:16] <tatertotz> daddy0: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[06:16] <tatertotz> daddy0: let me know when done
[06:18] <daddy0> done
[06:19] <tatertotz> daddy0: these are the only VLC packages you should be seeing http://termbin.com/updo
[06:21] <tatertotz> daddy0: inxi -Fxxprzc0|pastebinit
[06:21] <tatertotz> daddy0: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[06:21] <daddy0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26449254/
[06:22] <daddy0> its just that when i open ubuntu software, theres 2 of each to pick from, why is that and how does the newbie know which to pick
[06:22] <daddy0> you would think theres only one vlc to select
[06:22] <daddy0> shrug
[06:24] <tatertotz> daddy0: do you see the VLC entries "represented" here? yes or no
[06:25] <tatertotz> daddy0: do you see the VLC entries "represented" here? http://termbin.com/updo yes or no
[06:27] <daddy0> i dont know
[06:27] <daddy0> when i search vlc in ubunut software, theres 2 choices
[06:27] <tatertotz> daddy0: screen shots can be posted to imgur.com
[06:27] <daddy0> vlc and VLC media player
[06:27] <tatertotz> daddy0: in the event you wanted to share a "visual" screen shot
[06:28] <daddy0> ok gimme min
[06:31] <daddy0> https://imgur.com/a/OIuxb
[06:32] <tatertotz> daddy0: click it....it's likely a plugin
[06:33] <tatertotz> daddy0: you should be able to get more info by reading more info about it after you click it
[06:35] <tatertotz> daddy0: as per http://termbin.com/updo
[06:37] <daddy0> ./sigh
[06:39] <tatertotz> theres only one vlc and you have it installed
[06:39] <tatertotz> human perception issue
[06:40] <hateball> also, bionic is in #ubuntu+1
[06:40] <Neo4> I've opened port 25 in ufw and when check connection is refused?
[06:40] <Neo4> host kselax.ru
[06:40] <Neo4> port 25
[06:40] <cloudbud> what is unattended-upgrades
[06:40] <Neo4> Postfix
[06:40] <hateball> Neo4: your ISP most likely blocks port 25
[06:40] <Neo4> http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1516775592.png
[06:40] <Neo4> hateball: really?
[06:40] <hateball> Neo4: Yes, to prevent spam
[06:41] <Neo4> hateball: What is my ISP? who is it?
[06:41] <Neo4> hateball: telecom?
[06:41] <hateball> Neo4: you'll probably need to use one of their relays, or pay for a business subscription
[06:41] <tatertotz> Neo4: are you chatting from the computer right now? yes or no
[06:41] <hateball> Neo4: your Internet Service Provider
[06:41] <Neo4> yes
[06:41] <Neo4> hateball: ukr-telecom
[06:42] <Neo4> hateball: and he blocked 25? what shall I do?
[06:42] <purity> "human perception issue" is a new one
[06:42] <Neo4> I can put other port?
[06:42] <purity> think I'll use that from now on
[06:44] <tatertotz> people with large 4x4 trucks will attempt to drive through flood waters (unsuccessfully).....human perception issue
[06:44] <Neo4> there exist port 465 also refused?
[06:45] <shanky> HI
[06:45] <daddy0> ok thx guys
[06:46] <shanky> I was updating ubuntu softwares yesterday and update got stuck by opening debconf window i waited for 2 hours but no progress so i closed forced down my laptop
[06:46] <shanky> now after starting its giving error
[06:47] <hateball> Neo4: Like I said, ISPs usually block "mail" ports for home connections, to prevent spambots
[06:47] <shanky> screen is bliking after login :(
[06:47] <shanky> any help by someone is most welcome
[06:47] <Neo4> hateball: see http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1516776453.png
[06:47] <shanky> @hateball
[06:48] <Neo4> hateball: I use thunderbird and port 587 for send SMTP
[06:48] <tatertotz> shanky: are you chatting from the computer right now? yes or no
[06:48] <Neo4> hateball: you can check port form your computer domain is kselax.ru
[06:48] <shanky> no
[06:48] <shanky> i am chatting from other computer
[06:49] <Neo4> hateball: use telnet kselax.ru 25
[06:49] <Neo4> 587
[06:49] <shanky> can i get ur contacts tatertotz plzz i need help
[06:49] <Neo4> and 465
[06:49] <tatertotz> shanky: can you log in after pressing ctrl+alt+F2
[06:50] <shanky> after ctrl+alt+F2 its giving a cursor blinking in corner
[06:50] <shanky> tatertotz: no login coming :(
[06:50] <tatertotz> shanky: ah you force shutdown during "updating"? true or false
[06:50] <shanky> tatertotz: can i get your contact so that i can contact you later when i will be in room
[06:51] <tatertotz> shanky: just message me when you return
[06:51] <shanky> tatertotz: yes i did force down because updating was stucked
[06:51] <shanky> tatertotz: i tried https://askubuntu.com/questions/924170/error-on-ubuntu-boot-up-recovering-journal
[06:51] <shanky> but nothing happened :(
[06:52] <Neo4> All the gmail ports, 25, 465, and 587
[06:52] <tatertotz> shanky: yeah, interrupting the system while the operating system is updating can result in failure(s).
[06:53] <Neo4> how open it, I have installed ufw
[06:53] <shanky> tatertotz: i have backed up my file using windows by diskreader just trying to fix if possible
[06:53] <tatertotz> shanky: something old partially removed, or something new partially installed.....neither one is the "ideal"
[06:53] <shanky> tatertotz: but we can still purge those updates
[06:54] <shanky> tatertotz: not possible to fix it?
[06:54] <tatertotz> shanky: are you at a functional command line with administrative level access to the system? yes or no
[06:55] <shanky> tatertotz: i am able to use root by grub menu as shown in https://askubuntu.com/questions/924170/error-on-ubuntu-boot-up-recovering-journal
[06:56] <Neo4> Who know why port closed?
[06:59] <shanky> tatertotz: any way around?
[06:59] <tatertotz> shanky: you could attempt system disaster recovery
[07:00] <Neo4> that port is opened on  telnet mail.kselax.ru 25
[07:00] <tatertotz> shanky: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader
[07:00] <shanky> tatertotz: you scaring me
[07:00] <Neo4> but I don't get mails from gmail
[07:01] <Neo4> I can send there and back they don't return
[07:01] <tatertotz> Neo4: open terminal
[07:01] <tatertotz> Neo4: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[07:01] <tatertotz> Neo4: let me know when done
[07:02] <Neo4> tatertotz: done
[07:02] <tatertotz> Neo4: inxi -Fxxprzc0|pastebinit
[07:02] <shanky> tatertotz: my boot loader is wrking thats why i am able to boot windows. and even ubuntu too but after login screen i am getting flashing and blinkinhg screen
[07:03] <tatertotz> Neo4: share url/link here
[07:04] <Neo4> tatertotz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26449439/
[07:06] <shanky> tatertotz: ?
[07:06] <EriC^^> shanky: what driver are you using?
[07:06] <shanky> tatertotz: will contact you later bye
[07:07] <EriC^^> try booting with nomodeset and install another driver
[07:27] <dingir_> what is ubuntu 17.10 /etc/shadow algorithm used for hashes?
[07:31] <jink> dingir_: SHA512, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features
[07:31] <dekatch> hi, is there a budgie theme patch for ubuntu 16.xx lts available??
[07:32] <banisterfiend> hi guys -- i'm on ubuntu 17.10 with zsh installed. At what point is .bash_profile loaded? is it the best place to put a daemon?
[07:41] <Neo4> my server is listen loopback http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1516779389.png
[07:41] <Neo4> How to make it listen my real IP <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:43] <tatertotz> Neo4: can you open terminal?
[07:45] <tatertotz> Neo4: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[07:46] <Neo4> tatertotz: yes
[07:46] <Neo4> tatertotz: why you need that?
[07:46] <lmstr> Hi, yesterday my 16.04 upgraded the kernel to 4.13.0-31 including related packages such as grub, shim, .... Now my thinkpad t470s fails to boot. EFI shows the ubuntu stanza in its chooser but on enter it just returns to efi. I already reinstalled grub via the live cd to no avail. Any hints at what to look next?
[07:46] <Neo4> tatertotz: I afraid install, suddenly that broken my comp...
[07:47] <tatertotz> Neo4: i understand...good luck
[07:48] <Neo4> tatertotz: just you unknown person and I'm very suspective :)
[07:48] <tatertotz> :)
[07:49] <Neo4> suspicious*
[07:49] <neure> is there command to do basic statistics for a list of numbers?
[07:49] <tatertotz> unknown ....that'd be nice
[07:49] <electricguitar> lmstr: can you repair the operating system? like reinstalling ubuntu?
[07:50] <lmstr> electricguitar: Sure I can but I'd rather want to avoid that.
[07:50] <electricguitar> lmstr: sorry brother
[07:51] <Ben64> lmstr: did you try an older kernel
[07:51] <electricguitar> lmstr: run the live cd, backup precious data, reinstall (or better much, try 17.10), then poof!
[07:52] <dekatch> Neo4, in that case better dont use irc in general
[07:52] <electricguitar> the computer explodes!
[07:52] <electricguitar> lmstr: boom!
[07:52] <dekatch> because we all are unknown to you. so why do you ask for assistance here anyway?
[07:52] <dekatch> he linked an official help.ubunutu.com link and those are greatly moderated
[07:53] <dekatch> so do yourself a favor and use common sense pls
[07:53] <lmstr> Ben64: I'm about to try that now
[07:53] <bazhang> electricguitar, save the non helpful chatter for somewhere else please
[07:54] <electricguitar> bazhang: sorry!
[07:54] <Neo4> dekatch: just it is suspecious when somebody stick to you and say install some apps, suddenly it can harm my computer, I don't know what is that :)
[07:55] <dekatch> Neo4, google down those "so called SUSPICIONS apps" before than and have a look what they do
[07:55] <Neo4> bazhang: Would be it known person... than other deal
[07:55] <dekatch> all he did was linking an official ubuntu.com link. and those can be trusted in general
[07:56] <dekatch> i know, even yahoo got hacked at some point. but if there is some guide on ubuntu.com it can be trusted.
[07:57] <Neo4> dekatch: it's not usual for me when somebody stick to me. It's something when girl on the street first start to stick to you and you feel here should be some catch )
[07:57]  * dekatch goes crazy
[07:57] <Neo4> dekatch: just I'm feeling this is something not right :)
[07:57] <dekatch> you askes, he answered
[07:57] <bazhang> Neo4, thats not needed here, so please stop
[07:57] <dekatch> nobody forced you to do anything
[07:57] <Neo4> ok.
[07:57] <dekatch> now i cant take it any longer sry i am out
[08:05] <dekatch> Neo4, have a look at that posted link from tatertotz https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html and see what it can offer you. i dont know your problem. never had to edit any of those network configs before. but help.ubuntu.com is a trusted source
[08:05] <dekatch> thats for that.. watching some yt i guess
[08:07] <Neo4> ok
[08:14] <dekatch> hi, is there a budgie theme patch for ubuntu 16.xx lts available??
[08:14] <dekatch> with some link please? i know should be easy. but i just dont want to install budgie just to have budgie look. i want to install 16.04lts with ubuntu theme
[08:15] <dekatch> with some link please? i know should be easy. but i just dont want to install budgie just to have budgie look. i want to install 16.04lts with budgie theme
[08:17] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/1740150
[08:17] <bazhang> dekatch, that?
[08:17] <dekatch> infact already have 16.04lts installed. but i dont wanna switch minor distros just to switch the look
[08:18] <Ben64> linux-generic-hwe-16.04-edge still not updated : /
[08:18] <dekatch> dont know bazhang . is it meant to patch ubunutu lts to ubuntu budgie? all i want is the look of budgie with 16.04 lts ubuntu
[08:19] <bazhang> dekatch, did you check the link and read it yet
[08:19] <dekatch> not fully. just to make sure
[08:20] <dekatch> i am willing to perform any steps i have to. i just want ubuntu 16.04 lts with budgie theme options. dont wanna change the distro just for the looks
[08:20] <bazhang> dekatch, as of now, budgie does nota llow gtk3 theming, so sign on that and follow it
[08:20] <dekatch> the taskbar at the bottom. kinda floating. and more dark
[08:27] <dekatch> it shouldnt be allowed to patent a design. a design can be either usefull or useless. the methodics behinds are what usefull. but if a quarter looks like a quarter, nobody should be able to judge and sue on that
[08:27] <dekatch> all forms and triangles existed before
[08:27] <dekatch> so FUCK the new modern patent regelations
[08:27] <bazhang> dekatch, thats a great topic for a chat channel, not here
[08:27] <dekatch> and FUCK neo facism apple
[08:28] <bazhang> dekatch, and stop the cursing now
[08:28] <lemonxah> good day .. is people just moaning here or is there some help to be found aswell?
[08:28] <dekatch> yea i am useless
[08:28] <bazhang> lemonxah, please ask
[08:28] <dekatch> just spreading useful hate
[08:28] <dekatch> sory bazhang
[08:28] <lemonxah> having some issues with a usb-c to display adapter not even being picked up
[08:30] <lemonxah> i dont see anything in dmesg when i plug or unplug this adapter
[08:32] <lemonxah> any ideas guys?
[08:32] <tatertotz> lemonxah: are you chatting from the computer right now? yes or no
[08:33] <lemonxah> yes
[08:33] <tatertotz> lemonxah: can you open terminal?
[08:33] <lemonxah> it is
[08:33] <tatertotz> lemonxah: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[08:34] <tatertotz> lemonxah: let me know when done.
[08:34] <lemonxah> its done
[08:34] <tatertotz> lemonxah: inxi -Fxxprzc0|pastebinit
[08:34] <lemonxah> it also doesn't show on lsusb :(
[08:35] <tatertotz> lemonxah: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[08:35] <banisterfiend> hi...my ubuntu system just randomly gets stuck on the ubuntu load screen with the progress bar. and doens't go anywhere. I'm on ubuntu 17.10. The last change i made was making etc/rc.local executable, all it does is start a daemon. Could this be the problem? what do i do?
[08:36] <lemonxah> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26449824/
[08:36] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: try starting recovery mode and comment out the line you added in rc.local
[08:37] <dingir_> jink thanks
[08:37] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ how do i start recovery mode exacdtly? just holding down shift when i boot doesn't seem to work...
[08:37] <lemonxah> tatertotz, what are you looking for in that output?
[08:37] <tatertotz> lemonxah: does yours look like this one? https://www.startech.com/AV/usb-c-video-adapters/usb-c-displayport-adapter~CDP2DPUCP
[08:37] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: try left shift or esc
[08:37] <tatertotz> lemonxah: does yours look like this one? https://www.startech.com/AV/usb-c-video-adapters/usb-c-displayport-adapter~CDP2DPUCP yes or no
[08:37] <Benl90> hello I want to ask, after I do swapoff and update-grub and initramfs then the whole drive is locked, I can't even edit source list or update ubuntu. Any Suggestion?
[08:38] <lemonxah> no
[08:38] <lemonxah> astrum usb-c to display port
[08:38] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ ok cool, so im in a 'grub' prompt, waht do i do now? :)
[08:38] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: did esc do it or left shift?
[08:38] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ esc
[08:38] <tatertotz> lemonxah: does yours look like this one? https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Thunderbolt-Compatible/dp/B06Y5N3YCD yes or no
[08:40] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ homie?
[08:40] <lemonxah> tatertotz, no, https://www.astrumworld.com/sa/en/display-adapters/730-da640.html
[08:40] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: hmm then it's grub legacy let me see
[08:40] <tatertotz> lemonxah: does it function when booted to LiveCD/LiveUSB? yes or no
[08:40] <freezer> hi,
[08:41] <freezer> Ubuntu 17.10 is not working well on my Thinkpad X1 Carbon
[08:41] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: try 'configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[08:41] <freezer> does it make sense to update to 18.04 already?
[08:41] <lemonxah> tatertotz, i have not tested that i dont have a livecd here
[08:42] <tatertotz> lemonxah: unplug and replug the adapter a few times
[08:42] <lemonxah> i have
[08:42] <tatertotz> lemonxah: let me know when done
[08:42] <lemonxah> ok
[08:42] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ i typed that, and it looked like it just cleared the screen?
[08:43] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: try 'ls'
[08:43] <lemonxah> tatertotz, done
[08:43] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ it displays a bunch of things like: (hd0) (hd1), etc
[08:43] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: try "ls (hd0,msdos1)/"
[08:44] <EriC^^> do you see /bin /boot /home etc ?
[08:44] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ ya i do
[08:45] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: type "root (hd0,msdos1)"
[08:45] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ "error, can't find root
[08:46] <tatertotz> lemonxah: journalctl _KERNEL_SUBSYSTEM=usb &> ~/nip.pir
[08:46] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ no such command as 'root'
[08:46] <tatertotz> lemonxah: let me know when done
[08:46] <EriC^^> try " set root='(hd0,msdos1)' "
[08:46] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: ^
[08:46] <Benl90> anyone could help maybe? I Tried around by fsck, no help
[08:46] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ done
[08:46] <lemonxah> tatertotz, done
[08:47] <tatertotz> lemonxah: lsusb -tv &>> ~/nip.pir
[08:47] <tatertotz> lemonxah: let me know when done
[08:47] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: "linux /boot/vmlinuz-<tab complete the latest kernel> root=/dev/sda1 init=/bin/bash"
[08:48] <lemonxah> tatertotz, done
[08:48] <tatertotz> lemonxah: ls -lh /var/log &>> ~/nip.pir
[08:48] <tatertotz> lemonxah: let me know when done
[08:48] <lemonxah> done
[08:48] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ it won't auto complete vmlinuz so i got no idea what kernel in there
[08:49] <lemonxah> tatertotz, ** done
[08:49] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: try 'ls /boot'
[08:49] <tatertotz> lemonxah: pastebinit ~/nip.pir
[08:49] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ it says "error disk hd0, msdos1 not found'
[08:49] <lemonxah> tatertotz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/26449876/
[08:50] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: what does 'echo $prefix' give?
[08:50] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ (hd1, gpt4)
[08:50] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: oh
[08:50] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ for the record tihs system is an macbook pro, and i still have osx installed
[08:51] <banisterfiend> i installed linux on another partition and boot to it, if i want to boot into osx i have to hold down 'option' during boot and choose osx
[08:52] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: try 'configfile (hd0,gpt4)/boot/grub/grub.cfg' maybe we get lucky and it shows the menu without booting
[08:53] <banisterfiend> hd1 or hd0 ?
[08:53] <EriC^^> oh sorry, hd1
[08:53] <tatertotz> lemonxah: earlier i told you to "unplug and replug several times".....and you responded that you did so. True or False
[08:53] <lemonxah> tatertotz, i cant see any change when this is plugged in or not so i am starting to think this adapter might be faulty?
[08:53] <lemonxah> tatertotz, i have unplugged and replugged several times
[08:54] <tatertotz> lemonxah: Jan 24 10:24:17 lemonxah-xps kernel: usb 1-3:1.0: rebind failed: -517
[08:54] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ it says "error filename expected"
[08:54] <tatertotz> lemonxah: what time does your computer say it is?
[08:54] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: hmm try 'ls -l'
[08:54] <lemonxah> 10:54
[08:54] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: are there any 'ext*' partitions?
[08:54] <tatertotz> lemonxah: you sure do have many occurrences of Jan 24 10:24:17 lemonxah-xps kernel: usb 1-3:1.0: rebind failed: -517
[08:55] <lemonxah> yes that was when i started the laptop
[08:55] <tatertotz> lemonxah: i would try with a "known good" adapter if i were you.
[08:56] <lemonxah> tatertotz, ok i will do that i dont have another machine with usb-c to test this with so i couldn't test it with something else
[08:56] <tatertotz> lemonxah: you have a monitor attached? true or false
[08:56] <lemonxah> tatertotz, do you know any known good adapters
[08:56] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ https://www.dropbox.com/s/zpetfkoxbrm9q3s/20180124_095535.jpg?dl=0
[08:56] <lemonxah> no monitor conected now let me redo it with the monitor attached
[08:56] <tatertotz> lemonxah: lol
[08:57] <tatertotz> lemonxah: yeah...good idea
[08:57] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ yeah hd1, gpt4 is ext*
[08:57] <tatertotz> lemonxah: glad you thought of that.
[08:57] <lemonxah> yes tatertotz .. dont know what i was thinking
[08:58] <lemonxah> the cable was in but as you mentioned it i remembered that its out at the back of the screen
[08:58] <Benl90> anyone?
[08:58] <tatertotz> lemonxah: it is working now? true or false
[08:58] <lemonxah> false
[08:59] <Benl90> My ubuntu is start with read only mode, how to fix it?
[08:59] <tatertotz> lemonxah: you have a monitor attached? true or false
[08:59] <lemonxah> tatertotz, also no change in journalctl
[08:59] <lemonxah> i have monitor attached
[08:59] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: give 'configfile $prefix/grub.cfg' a try
[08:59] <lemonxah> tatertotz, no change in any of the command outputs
[08:59] <lemonxah> tatertotz, i think i will go buy another adapter i think this one might be faulty?
[09:00] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ that did something, it rebooted the sytem i think?
[09:00] <banisterfiend> oh yeah now it's back to stuck on the loading screen again :(
[09:00] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: np, press esc again to get the grub prompt
[09:00] <tatertotz> lemonxah: does the "DELL" logo appear on the "connect" display when powering on the PC (this occurs PRIOR to windows/linux even entering the equation)
[09:00] <tatertotz> lemonxah: does the "DELL" logo appear on the "connect" display when powering on the PC (this occurs PRIOR to windows/linux even entering the equation)? yes or no
[09:01] <lemonxah> tatertotz, let me start it up and check i will be right back
[09:01] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ im there again :)
[09:01] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: type "linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda4 init=/bin/bash"
[09:02] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ just did that, nothing happened
[09:02] <banisterfiend> no error, but no output either
[09:04] <lemonxah> tatertotz, there is no logo
[09:04] <lemonxah> tatertotz, thank you for your help i think this might be a faulty adapter
[09:04] <lemonxah> tatertotz, is there a known good adapter that i should get?
[09:05] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ should it have done something visible or was it a command that works behind the scenes?
[09:06] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: i'm back sorry
[09:07] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: it means it worked
[09:07] <banisterfiend> no worries man, that's for helping me i really appreciate it
[09:07] <banisterfiend> thanks
[09:07] <banisterfiend> ah ok, so what do i do now?
[09:07] <tatertotz> lemonxah: i would use one of the adapters i showed you when we began our session.
[09:07] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: type "initrd /initrd.img"
[09:08] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ heh, it says "cant find command initrd/initrd.img'
[09:08] <tatertotz> lemonxah: i have both and they work fine for me on my Dell and on a MacBook
[09:09] <tatertotz> lemonxah: "interchangeably" also they work
[09:09] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: there's a space between initrd and the /
[09:09] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ ah did it
[09:09] <banisterfiend> no error now
[09:09] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: try 'boot'
[09:10] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ awesome that worked
[09:10] <banisterfiend> now i have root
[09:10] <EriC^^> great!
[09:10] <EriC^^> ok type 'nano /etc/rc.local'
[09:11] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ it says readonly file system
[09:11] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: ah wait 1 sec
[09:11] <EriC^^> yup :)
[09:11] <EriC^^> type "mount -o remount,rw /"
[09:11] <banisterfiend> how did u learn all this stuff
[09:11] <EriC^^> lots of years here :)
[09:12] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ thansk i did that...but assuming this doesn't work, is there a way to at least get a boot log at this point to see why it froze at the ubuntu screen?
[09:13] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: yeah, type "less /var/log/boot.log"
[09:14] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ ok cool, nto sure it's useful can't really see anything there...so how do i reboot? :)
[09:14] <banisterfiend> or waht should i do now?
[09:14] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: try 'mkdir -p /var/log/journal' that should create persistent logging so you can check logs before the current one
[09:15] <banisterfiend> thanks
[09:15] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ yeah so i think it froze at: "started IIO sensor proxy sercice"
[09:15] <banisterfiend> and it froze afer that
[09:16] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ so what should i do now?
[09:16] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: also type "systemd-tmpfiles --create --prefix /var/log/journal"
[09:16] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: then type 'reboot'
[09:17] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ lol reboot doesnt work
[09:17] <banisterfiend> it says "failed to connect to bus no such file or directory"
[09:17] <EriC^^> what does it say?
[09:17] <banisterfiend> failed to talk to the init dameon
[09:17] <EriC^^> oh
[09:17] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: try pressing ctrl+alt+del
[09:18] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ homie let's get married, you fixed it!!
[09:18] <banisterfiend> wow
[09:18] <EriC^^> great!
[09:18] <banisterfiend> i have no idea what any of that stuff you did means, but wow, that's impressive
[09:18] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ crazy how just some innocent looking stuff in rc.local coudl break everuything so badly jesus
[09:19] <EriC^^> yup, once putting a "." in ~/.profile messed my whole desktop :D
[09:19] <EriC^^> what were you trying to run in rc.local?
[09:20] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ well i just wrote a little shell script that auto-uploads files to dropbox that get added to my ~/screenshots/ folder cos i couldn't find a decent screenshot autouploader in ubuntu
[09:20] <banisterfiend> so i wanted that little script to start on system boot
[09:20] <banisterfiend> so i just executed that shell script in rc.local...
[09:21] <banisterfiend> BOOM
[09:21] <EriC^^> :D
[09:21] <lemonxah> another issue i have is if there is a headset plugged in on boot i have to replug it before i can use it or i have to go to settings everything
[09:21] <EriC^^> why not put it in the startup apps of your user?
[09:21] <EriC^^> it would run every time you logged in
[09:22] <lemonxah> is there an easy way to bring up that popup you get once you plug something into the headphone jack?
[09:23] <Quenz> There's a flickering green bar in Activities Overview in Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 LTS after installing nvidia-340. Any way to fix this?
[09:26] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ how do i do that?
[09:26] <Quenz> tatertotz I fixed the other issue by the way. All it required was an 'apt update', 'apt full-upgrade', 'ubuntu-drivers autoinstall' and reboot on a fresh install.
[09:26] <tatertotz> Quenz: screen shots can be posted to imgur.com and the link/url shared
[09:26] <Quenz> tatertotz I can't take a screen shot because every time I do, the green bar disappears.
[09:26] <tatertotz> Quenz: disappears?
[09:27] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: click on the dash and type 'startup'
[09:27] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ how do i add it to startup apps?
[09:27] <Quenz> tatertotz The bar flickers. Appears and disappears. It also disappears every time I try to screenshot it.
[09:27] <Quenz> I suppose I can take a photo
[09:27] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: you're using ubuntu unity right?
[09:28] <kostkon> banisterfiend, search for "startup" in the dash
[09:30] <banisterfiend> thanks guys trying it now
[09:30] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ i'm using 17.10 i think it's using gnome now
[09:30] <banisterfiend> but i found startup apps, and added my command , let's see
[09:36] <tatertotz> Quenz: occurs only on external monitor? true or false
[09:36] <Quenz> tatertotz False. Never tried an external monitor.
[09:41] <tatertotz> Quenz: you own a external monitor? true or false
[09:42] <Quenz> tatertotz True, but I'm not sure I have the right connection for this laptop.
[09:42] <tatertotz> Quenz: the symptom occurs when booted to livecd/liveusb? true or false
[09:43] <Quenz> tatertotz I'm not sure. I don't think I can test that, because I need to reboot to enable the nvidia-340 driver.
[09:44] <Quenz> Here's a photo https://i.imgur.com/LO4YlIj.jpg
[09:45] <tatertotz> Quenz: i understand...open terminal
[09:46] <tatertotz> Quenz: apt search inxi|nc termbin.com 9999
[09:47] <tatertotz> Quenz: share url/link here
[09:52] <Quenz> tatertotz http://termbin.com/4hs7
[09:53] <tatertotz> Quenz: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[09:53] <tatertotz> Quenz: let me know when done
[09:54] <Quenz> tatertotz done
[09:54] <tatertotz> Quenz: inxi -Fxxprzc0|pastebinit
[09:54] <SimonNL> /0^0\
[09:55] <tatertotz> SimonNL: good morning
[09:55] <SimonNL> hi
[09:55] <Quenz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26450219
[09:55] <Quenz> tatertotz ^
[09:57] <tatertotz> Quenz: ls -lh /var/log &> ~/nip.pir
[09:57] <tatertotz> Quenz: let me know when done
[09:57] <Quenz> tatertotz done
[09:58] <tatertotz> Quenz: xrandr &>> ~/nip.pir
[09:58] <tatertotz> Quenz: let me know when done
[09:58] <Quenz> tatertotz done
[09:59] <tatertotz> Quenz: nvidia-settings &>> ~/nip.pir
[09:59] <tatertotz> Quenz: you see the nvidia utility? true or false
[09:59] <Quenz> tatertotz true
[10:00] <tatertotz> Quenz: check your temperature by locating the little cute temp gauge in the nvidia utility.
[10:00] <tatertotz> Quenz: you have seen your temp. true or false
[10:01] <Quenz> tatertotz True. Very cute. 55°C.
[10:01] <tatertotz> Quenz: close the utility
[10:02] <tatertotz> Quenz: let me know when done
[10:03] <Quenz> tatertotz done
[10:04] <tatertotz> Quenz: the green line is visible when using intel or nvidia gpu's? true or false
[10:06] <Quenz> tatertotz I believe I only have one GPU, and it's a Nvidia one. So yes, it shows up when using an Nvidia GPU.
[10:07] <Quenz> tatertotz I need to go take a shower. I'll be back soon.
[10:07] <tatertotz> Quenz: pastebinit ~/nip.pir
[10:07] <user8> rffejy4n u
[10:08] <Quenz> tatertotz Before I go http://paste.ubuntu.com/26450255
[10:08] <tatertotz> Quenz: thanks :)
[10:13] <tatertotz> Quenz: well that was too easy
[10:14] <tatertotz> Quenz: let me know when you get back...we'll discuss a bit
[10:15] <tatertotz> Quenz: actually i'll just tell you, since i really only provide you with information
[10:16] <debouncer> I wonder whether it is possible to change the windows manager of a DE. Or how do you create your custom DE using Windows managers, panels etc.?
[10:16] <tatertotz> Quenz: long story short http://termbin.com/tt1v
[10:17] <tatertotz> Quenz: been "disabled"
[10:19] <tatertotz> Quenz: they have come to refuel me
[10:19] <kv102t> Used WUBI to add ubuntu to windows10, i selected incorrect MOK and now i just get grub>..  anyway, i uninstalled and reinistalled but it always retuns to grub, i can't seem to get back to the MOK.  Any ideas?
[10:30] <Quenz> tatertotz Whatever it is... how do I enable it?
[10:35] <tatertotz> Quenz: think back, are you always limited to  1280x800? yes or no
[10:35] <Quenz> tatertotz I've never checked.
[10:36] <kv102t> Used WUBI to add ubuntu to windows10, i selected incorrect MOK and now i just get grub>..  anyway, i uninstalled and reinistalled but it always retuns to grub, i can't seem to get back to the MOK.  Any ideas?
[10:37] <tatertotz> Quenz: http://termbin.com/2vuu
[10:38] <tatertotz> Quenz: No modes were requested; the default mode "nvidia-auto-select"
[10:39] <Quenz> tatertotz So... should I try setting the resolution, or..?
[10:41] <cnnx> i have ubuntu and win10 on the same hdd, right now it boots right into win10, i tried using a progra to install grub but it failed, is it because my bios is set for uefi?
[10:46] <tatertotz> Quenz: 1280x800 is your "native" resolution as per https://support.apple.com/kb/sp579?locale=en_US however notice you have no other options for resolution(s).
[10:47] <Quenz> tatertotz I noticed that just now, yes. So, what does this mean?
[10:47] <tatertotz> Quenz: and i've already told you why ...here...http://termbin.com/tt1v
[10:47] <kv102t> cnnx: You could try what i'm doing WUBI
[10:47] <cnnx> WUBI?
[10:47] <tatertotz> Quenz: I just inform you with information so you can make good choices
[10:47] <cnnx> if i disable eufi would it work
[10:48] <cnnx> if i do grub-install /dev/sda
[10:48] <tatertotz> Quenz: :)
[10:48] <Quenz> tatertotz I'm not really sure how to interpret that log. I need to go to bed now, anyway. If you have any new information you can post to here https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2383374 if you like. Thanks so far
[10:49] <tatertotz> Quenz: i'm sure they'd flame me to death if i posted to the forums....i catch hell just helping people in IRC
[10:50] <Quenz> tatertotz You don't have to, but I would appreciate if you posted any useful information to my thread.
[10:51] <tatertotz> no good dead goes......un..rewarded
[10:51] <tatertotz> lol
[10:51] <Quenz> I'll be back in about 10 hours.
[10:51] <Quenz> (probably)
[10:51] <Quenz> I don't know what that means though :
[10:51] <Quenz> :P Bubyr
[11:00] <Furai> Did something change about ssh-agent in ubuntu 17.04/10? I used to have to use keychain to add my identity on the start of terminal.
[11:00] <Furai> Now it seems to automatically run ssh-agent and accept the rsa key.
[11:16] <cnnx> how do i install grub
[11:17] <cnnx> after win10 has been installed
[11:17] <cnnx> it goes striaght into win10 now
[11:17] <cnnx> im in the systemresue cd now
[11:17] <hateball> !fixgrub | cnnx
[11:17] <cnnx> i tried grub-install /dev/sda
[11:17] <kv102t> Used WUBI to add ubuntu to windows10, i selected incorrect MOK and now i just get grub>..  anyway, i uninstalled and reinistalled but it always retuns to grub, i can't seem to get back to the MOK.  Any ideas?
[11:18] <cnnx> do i need the ubuntu cd
[11:18] <cnnx> i tried grub-install /dev/sda but it wont work
[11:20] <hateball> kv102t: Wubi? That is dead
[11:20] <hateball> !wubi
[11:26] <Guest20003> anyone here familiar with notify-send? how come i can't copy text from the notification?
[11:30] <mitchel> Hi, I have a question, I have set up a samba server, with users with specific rights. Is there a way to access a samba file share through the web browser?]
[11:31] <kv102t> hateball:you can get it on github
[11:31] <kv102t> hateball: it worked, i just got it wrong at the secure boot section
[11:36] <hateball> kv102t: Doesnt matter if you can get it or not, it's no longer supported. If it's working for you now, nice. But don't expect it to
[11:37] <kv102t> hateball: understood
[11:41] <yeats> kv102t: yeah, you should just unable the Linux subsystem on Windows and use Ubuntu that way
[11:42] <yeats> s/unable/enable/
[11:55] <SCHAPiE> hmmz
[11:55] <SCHAPiE> why doesn't <IP_ADDRESS> contain the vulnerabilities folder in sysfs?
[11:55] <SCHAPiE> /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities
[12:00] <cnnx> im confused
[12:00] <SCHAPiE> i meant, 4.4.0-112-generic
[12:00] <cnnx> how to dual boot
[12:00] <cnnx> my system /dev/sda1 is EFI filetype
[12:00] <cnnx> im not sure how do dual boot
[12:01] <cnnx> i tried a few things
[12:05] <bolovanos> hithere
[12:07] <bolovanos> U 16.0.4. in VirtualBox, on Skylake arch, is it wise to use these drivers https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/skylake-guc-9.33 ? Anny known issues?
[12:08] <p4kl0nc4t> hello all
[12:10] <rafael> Firefox 58 wont support CSD?
[12:10] <p4kl0nc4t> I want to ask all of you about somerhing
[12:10] <p4kl0nc4t> Gksudo says that there is no .XAuthority file
[12:11] <p4kl0nc4t> how can i fix this ?
[12:14] <vtx> hi guys, does anyone have any experience of installing virtualgl on an nvidia setup?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:19] <jimb_> Hiya BluesKaj
[12:21] <alpha_Aquila> set theme steph1.theme
[12:23] <rafael> Firefox 58 wont support CSD on ubuntu?
[12:24] <rzyz> hello, from 15.10, do-release-upgrade dont find new version of ubuntu?
[12:25] <rzyz> any idea? which URL do-release-upgrade try to get?
[12:30] <jimb_> rzyz, I know 15.10 is EOL now, and I remember there may be something specific that needs to be done to upgrade from an already EOL release.
[12:31] <jimb_> rzyz, This link has a lot of info, including some troubleshooting when no update is found. https://askubuntu.com/questions/110477/how-do-i-upgrade-to-a-newer-version-of-ubuntu
[12:31] <hateball> !eolupgrade
[12:31] <hateball> rzyz: ^
[12:32] <rzyz> thx, i will read
[12:39] <BluesKaj> hi jimb_
[12:42] <u0_a137> tai
[12:42] <u0_a137> woy
[12:42] <P4kL0nc4t> oy
[12:42] <u0_a137> oy
[12:42] <u0_a137> MR.D
[12:43] <u0_a137> gua ulang ah nik gua bukan MR.D pas chat :v
[12:43] <brade> Hey guys I am trying to setup vagrant on ubuntu with not much success can anyone help it's to run wordpress locally for dev
[12:43] <tatertotz> P4kL0nc4t: are you chatting from the computer right now? yes or no
[12:44] <brade> yes
[12:44] <u0_a137> testing
[12:45] <u0_a137> oy
[12:45] <u0_a137> ada yg on?
[12:46] <Megabyte> hello
[12:46] <Megabyte> does anyone here use ffmpeg?
[12:46] <tatertotz> lots of people/things use ffmpeg (on the backend)...what is the real issue
[12:46] <jimb_> I use ffmpeg Megabyte
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Megabyte, it's difficult not to use ffmpeg
[12:47] <Megabyte> BluesKaj, the problem is that I recorded me drawing in real time and I wanted to do a timelapse
[12:47] <tatertotz> it goes smoother if you just admit what the "real" actual issue is
[12:47] <Megabyte> So I recorded 48 hours of footage
[12:47] <Megabyte> When I try to do a timelapse with ffmpeg, it brings my computer down after processing 11 hours of footage
[12:47] <Megabyte> I'm assuming it has to do with memory management
[12:48] <Megabyte> The last time it crashed due to a page fault
[12:48] <tatertotz> Megabyte: what standard is your video?
[12:48] <BluesKaj> Megabyte, sorry I have no idea anout time lapse
[12:48] <tatertotz> Megabyte: PAL=25/50 NTSC=29.97/60
[12:49] <tatertotz> Megabyte: PAL=25/50 NTSC=29.97/60?
[12:49] <supermegazord> hello i search to download  bittorent sync DEB package or tar.gz archiwe - version 2.3.7 or 2.3.8
[12:49] <tatertotz> Megabyte: you can say "i do not know"
[12:51] <rafael> Hello everyone. Firefox 58 wont support CSD on ubuntu?
[12:51] <tatertotz> Megabyte: ..nevermind
[12:52] <Megabyte> tarsorry, I was busy tending to a video
[12:52] <Megabyte> tatertotz,
[12:52] <Megabyte> it's 1920x1080
[12:52] <Megabyte> does that help?
[12:52] <tatertotz> Megabyte: knowing the size of the "raster" is nice...but since you speak of "time lapse" knowing the frame "rate" would be more helpful for you
[12:53] <tatertotz> Megabyte: in NTSC world...we use 29.97/600
[12:53] <Megabyte> tatertotz, I want to set the frame rate to 60 fps
[12:53] <tatertotz> Megabyte: in PAL world they use 25/50
[12:53] <Megabyte> But this was recorded straight from my computer
[12:53] <Megabyte> so NTSC/PAL does not apply
[12:53] <tatertotz> Megabyte: doesn't matter...and it does apply..you just don't know that yet
[12:53] <BugzBunny> I am trying clemeta I think
[12:54] <Megabyte> So is a video recorded from your computer desktop NTSC or PAL?
[12:54] <tatertotz> Megabyte: countries didn't invent PAL/NTSC for grins
[12:54] <BugzBunny> I click on File, but there is not Add, how do you add music to Clementa music player?
[12:54] <Megabyte> tatertotz, they invented it because they had different scanning systems
[12:54] <BugzBunny> Ubuntu 17.10 here
[12:54] <Megabyte> But with computers, as far as I know, this is moot
[12:55] <tatertotz> Megabyte: not only that but electricity does something at 60hz
[12:55] <Megabyte> tatertotz, anyway
[12:55] <tatertotz> Megabyte: so while you may think it does NOT matter...i'm telling you it DOES
[12:55] <Megabyte> I'm processing my video to be 60FPS
[12:55] <Megabyte> -i saída_parte_1.mp4 -i saída_parte_2.mp4 -i saída_parte_3.mp4 -i saída_parte_4.mp4 -filter_complex "[0:v]setpts=PTS/144,fps=60,scale=1920:1080[tmp0];[1:v]setpts=PTS/144,fps=60,scale=1920:1080[tmp1];[2:v]setpts=PTS/144,fps=60,scale=1920:1080[tmp2];[3:v]setpts=PTS/144,fps=60,scale=1920:1080[tmp3]; [tmp0][tmp1][tmp2][tmp3]concat=n=4:v=1" -crf 15 output.mp4
[12:55] <Megabyte> Filter chain
[12:56] <BugzBunny> Hello
[12:56] <BugzBunny> No one knows
[12:56] <Megabyte> tatertotz, Now what do I do to prevent ffmpeg from pagefaulting?
[12:57] <tatertotz> Megabyte: in any event since not really a ubuntu issue...and i don't want to trigger op/mods....i'll just let some else help you with "video production"
[12:57] <Megabyte> tatertotz, then let's talk in private
[12:58] <BugzBunny> When you say pagefault, you mean swap?
[12:58] <Megabyte> BugzBunny, My computer simply grinds to a halt and crashes
[12:58] <Megabyte> after processing 11 hours of data
[12:59] <BugzBunny> I use ffmpeg, it's hard and confusing but uh, sounds like OOM
[12:59] <Megabyte> OOM?
[12:59] <BugzBunny> Out of Memory
[12:59] <Megabyte> BugzBunny, that is what I'm thinking
[12:59] <Megabyte> ffmpeg shouldn't throw an error like that
[12:59] <Megabyte> I mean, it's probably storing these large amounts of data to disk anyway
[12:59] <BugzBunny> What is the ERROR exactly
[13:00] <Megabyte> BugzBunny, it usually gives no error
[13:00] <Megabyte> it simply freezes
[13:00] <Megabyte> along with my whole computer
[13:00] <BugzBunny> Freeze doesn't mean it stop working
[13:00] <Megabyte> It does, man
[13:00] <Megabyte> everything stops working
[13:01] <BugzBunny> Well, what FLAGS are you passing to FFmpeg
[13:02] <Megabyte> BugzBunny, I posted them above
[13:02] <Megabyte> Can you scroll up?
[13:02] <BugzBunny> Before or I after I joined
[13:02] <BugzBunny> ?
[13:02] <pauljw> BugzBunny, do you mean Clementine?  if so, open the app, press ctrl-p, select Music Library and add the folder where you store your music. then under tools, have it do a full library rescan and your music library will be built.
[13:02] <Megabyte> Ok
[13:02] <Megabyte> let me give them to you in private
[13:03] <Megabyte> BugzBunny, sent
[13:04] <SimonNL> BugzBunny: after you joined
[13:04] <BugzBunny> Thanks pauljw , looking
[13:05] <BugzBunny> Megabyte: No PM brother, just paste it here
[13:05] <Vic_2132> hi
[13:06] <BugzBunny> pauljw: Ahh, you have to do it in prefences
[13:06] <BugzBunny> Meh, I wish it would be in File
[13:07] <Megabyte> -i saída_parte_1.mp4 -i saída_parte_2.mp4 -i saída_parte_3.mp4 -i saída_parte_4.mp4 -filter_complex "[0:v]setpts=PTS/144,fps=60,scale=1920:1080[tmp0];[1:v]setpts=PTS/144,fps=60,scale=1920:1080[tmp1];[2:v]setpts=PTS/144,fps=60,scale=1920:1080[tmp2];[3:v]setpts=PTS/144,fps=60,scale=1920:1080[tmp3]; [tmp0][tmp1][tmp2][tmp3]concat=n=4:v=1" -crf 15 output.mp4
[13:07] <Megabyte> BugzBunny, there
[13:08] <BugzBunny> It's hard to undderstand FFmpeg, but I see a lot of Inputs
[13:10] <BugzBunny> You trying to add clips after each other?
[13:10] <BugzBunny> Also, the scale? It's not already at 1080p
[13:11] <BugzBunny> Or, you traying to do muptiple videos, each scale at each
[13:11] <fishie> I'm trying to add a program to my menu with Ubuntu's menu editor, and every time I make one it adds it, but doesn't show it in the menu editor, so I have 4 copies I can't delete {and none of them work}
[13:11] <tatertotz> and why are you transcoding/encoding if you really want "time lapse"
[13:12] <fishie> how do I delete items from the menu that don't show up in the menu editor? and how do I make an application shortcut that works with multiple commands in a single line?
[13:12] <fishie> I guess they're not commands... what are they...
[13:13] <tatertotz> you wouldn't bring a video into "handbreak" to make "time lapse"....(handbreak uses ffmpeg)
[13:13] <tatertotz> that is a NLE's job
[13:13] <tatertotz> ffmpeg is NOT a NLE
[13:13] <SimonNL> fishie: do they have a check mark in front in the show column
[13:14] <tatertotz> but i'm gonna shut up
[13:14] <Megabyte> BugzBunny, I have four videos
[13:14] <Megabyte> each has their own video and audio input
[13:14] <Megabyte> and the concatenation filter requires me to specify each audio and video input manually
[13:15] <fishie> SimonNL, in what interface? I'm not looking at this through the file browser. I don't even know where my menus are in the file browser to utilize "show hidden files" if that were the issue.
[13:15] <Megabyte> I'm trying to glue them all into a 10-20 minute video
[13:15] <SimonNL> fishie: selecting what you want to remove should offer the remove button to be usable
[13:15] <Megabyte> BugzBunny, Does that make sense?
[13:15] <SimonNL> fishie: I'm talking about right click menu button on panel and choosing edit
[13:16] <fishie> SimonNL, nope. when I click on a menu item in the actual menu, I only have 3 "add" options. and the first thing is it's name, greyed out.
[13:16] <SubCool> Ok... i just made a large message, and lost it... so-- sorry to flood while i rewrite it.
[13:16] <fishie> "add to favorites/desktop/panel"
[13:16] <BugzBunny> It seems like tatertotz has better idea of what you doing
[13:16] <SubCool> SO- i got myself intoa  mess, i was following a guide which made a mess: https://askubuntu.com/questions/900308/plasmashell-keeps-crashing-kubuntu . I am not trying to remove it.
[13:17] <SimonNL> fishie: thats from a launcher in menu
[13:17] <BugzBunny> I use ffmpeg for live streaming
[13:17] <SimonNL> wrong place fishie
[13:17] <Megabyte> BugzBunny, I recorded footage of myself drawing
[13:17] <Megabyte> This footage is in real time
[13:17] <Megabyte> so it's 48 hours of me drawing
[13:17] <SubCool> https://askubuntu.com/questions/307/how-can-ppas-be-removed -
[13:17] <Megabyte> I want to speed it up to 20 minutes
[13:17] <fishie> SimonNL, yes. IN the actual menu I can see them. IN the "menu editor" they are not even listed.
[13:17] <Megabyte> Does that make sense?
[13:17] <BugzBunny> Well, ffmpeg, the documenation is not bad
[13:17] <Megabyte> Ffmpeg is hell to use :P
[13:18] <BugzBunny> I use to feel the same way
[13:18] <tatertotz> ffmpeg is easy to use..thus its popularity
[13:18] <BugzBunny> But when I started to learn to use it.. it's not that bad
[13:18] <Megabyte> tatertotz, it's easy for basic stuff
[13:18] <Megabyte> But it's a nightmare for timelapse
[13:18] <BugzBunny> It's super difficult tatertotz
[13:19] <BugzBunny> A lot of of it I don't understand but it requires practice
[13:19] <Megabyte> Also no one has helped me with this strange memory leak
[13:19] <SubCool> But, during the installation i used teh upgrade-full command. HOw do i use purge thing to go backwards on my upgrade?
[13:19] <SimonNL> fishie: where did you add the launchers
[13:19] <SimonNL> fishie: thats where you should be able to remove
[13:19] <tatertotz> you're trying to dig a tunnel with a spoon lol
[13:20] <fishie> SimonNL, in the menu editor.
[13:20] <Megabyte> tatertotz, what do you mean?
[13:21] <SimonNL> fishie: I'm on mint are we using same thing  https://imgur.com/a/ehkrY
[13:21] <Megabyte> I'm glad I have a lot of space in my disk
[13:22] <Megabyte> If this fails, I'll simply speed up each file manually with a batch file
[13:22] <Megabyte> but it's not pretty
[13:22] <Megabyte> The original footage is 15GB
[13:24] <fishie> SimonNL, hmmm... no. I'm in Xubuntu. but it's probably similar.
[13:25] <SimonNL> fishie: select category on the right then select app launcher on the right a remove button should be offered
[13:25] <SimonNL> oops category on the left
[13:26] <fishie> SimonNL, they do not appear in the menu editor, so there is nothing there for me to delete. I have WoW, WoW2, WoW3, WoW4, all in the ACTUAL Xubuntu application menu which I can not delete.
[13:26] <SimonNL> fishie: we're probably in the wrong channel but we will get told if so
[13:26] <Borw3> Is it possible to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit Ubuntu without formating?
[13:27] <SimonNL> fishie: are shown in category or favorites only or some thing like it
[13:28] <fishie> SimonNL, I'm not sure I understand the question/statement. WoW1-4 are shown in my menu under "Games". not favorites.
[13:28] <SimonNL> fishie: and in menu editor "games" ?
[13:29] <fishie> SimonNL, in menu editor "games" does not show any of them.
[13:29] <fishie> SimonNL, it shows the other games. Mines and Sudoku, but not the ones I created.
[13:29] <SimonNL> fishie: you created them in menu editor ?
[13:29] <fishie> SimonNL, correct.
[13:30] <SimonNL> weird
[13:31] <fishie> SimonNL, yup. very strange. I don't know if it's because I'm using an SSD. It's my 1st time using one. I did have all my graphical icons disappear from a menu once, but only once.
[13:33] <fishie> SimonNL, I'll be back in 10 minutes.
[13:33] <SimonNL> fishie: i'll probably be gone
[13:34] <SimonNL> volunteers job to do
[13:34] <BugzBunny> I am only seeing one song
[13:35] <BugzBunny> Uh, does clementine music player rescan the directory
[13:35] <BugzBunny> Does it do recursive
[13:35] <BugzBunny> Because, it's not working here, no matter I delete the directory and add it again
[13:37] <BugzBunny> Playlist->add file works
[13:37] <BugzBunny> But uh, I have to do that for all my music?
[13:38] <pauljw> did you do as i said BugzBunny and go to tools and rescan the library?
[13:39] <BugzBunny> He didn't say that
[13:40] <BugzBunny> Uh, you just go into perfences, which I did
[13:40] <BugzBunny> Add the music library
[13:40] <pauljw> BugzBunny, do you mean Clementine?  if so, open the app, press ctrl-p, select Music Library and add the folder where you store your music. then under tools, have it do a full library rescan and your music library will be built.
[13:40] <sleppy> hi
[13:40] <BugzBunny> Ohhh
[13:41] <BugzBunny> That is really too many steps vs other jukebox players
[13:41] <pauljw> there are also a couple of checkboxes in preferences that will automate the process
[13:42] <pauljw> then use one of the other ones.  clementine is an awesome player and it's a set it up once and forget it.
[13:42] <BugzBunny> It says, Tools -> Do full libary scan
[13:42] <BugzBunny> Nothing
[13:43] <BugzBunny> Holdon, just figure out the problem
[13:43] <pauljw> so have i...
[13:44] <BugzBunny> Now, the libary path I had set earlier was the typical /media/ blah blah
[13:45] <BugzBunny> I have fstab enteries for my disks and it was pointing at the wrong location
[13:45] <BugzBunny> Now it works
[13:45] <BugzBunny> s/wrong/right/
[13:46] <BugzBunny> I wanted to try, because on their site, they have their Inspiration from Amarok 1.x
[13:47] <BugzBunny> No audio, hmmm
[13:48] <fishie> how do I search for the file/folder location for the Ubuntu menu that's created with the Ubuntu Menu Editor?
[13:49] <cnnx> I was running ubuntu and last night added a new partition and installed win10, and now it boots only in win10, now i need to  use my ubuntu again how do I get back into it? my BIOS is set for EUFI and /dev/sda1 is EFI filesystem type
[13:50] <cnnx> i tried grub without success
[13:50] <BugzBunny> cnnx: What Windows version?
[13:50] <BugzBunny> cnnx: And, Efi system?
[13:50] <cnnx> BugzBunny: win10 home
[13:51] <BugzBunny> Efi system?
[13:51] <cnnx> yeah
[13:51] <cnnx> the /dev/sda1
[13:51] <cnnx> from fdisk -l
[13:51] <cnnx> shows its EFI
[13:51] <BugzBunny> Winodws isntallation will overwrite bios
[13:51] <cnnx> thats what windows10 created
[13:51] <cnnx> ok
[13:51] <cnnx> so how do i get back into ubuntu
[13:51] <BugzBunny> Uh, on Efi system, if Ubuntu is Efi
[13:52] <BugzBunny> Just go to BIOS and change it
[13:52] <cnnx> i dont have EFI in bios
[13:53] <cnnx> just UEFI
[13:53] <BugzBunny> Same thing, got to boot menu
[13:53] <BugzBunny> Change the order
[13:54] <cnnx> to boot from which one
[13:54] <cnnx> the EFI/EUFI ?
[13:54] <cnnx> its 1 physical drive
[13:55] <BugzBunny> cnnx: Go to BIOS, boot section, and change the order of boot pri
[13:55] <BugzBunny> priority
[13:55] <cnnx> ok which should be first
[13:55] <mjayk> Haya all anyone here managed to get onedrive for buisness syncing with ubuntu (ondrive-d doesnt support buisness I believe)
[13:56] <BugzBunny> On UEFI aware BIOS, he will detect OSes on the 1 disk
[13:56] <tatertotz> mjayk: have you tried ? yes or no
[13:56] <BugzBunny> It should give you option which OSes you want primary
[13:56] <mjayk> tatertotz: I have tried ondrive-d yes
[13:57] <mjayk> tatertotz: the auth portal it sends you to is incorrect for buisness auth
[13:57] <john_rambo> https://spideroak.com/share/OR2XQMBQG4/ubuntu/home/xubuntu/SpiderOak%20Hive/New%20Folder/nmapplet.png.....I see 2 nm-applets ...How to fix this ?
[13:58] <tatertotz> mjayk: you are %100 certain ondrive-d does not support the intended use you seek (onedrive business) true or false
[13:59] <mjayk> tatertotz: i am not 100% sure no, however I have tried it and it does not work for me. A quick google confirms that it does not support buisness however there are a few forks that may, I've tried one of them from github and it also failed.
[14:00] <cnnx> BugzBunny: sorry if i asked the same thing im actually working at the same time
[14:00] <cnnx> with clients
[14:00] <cnnx> BugzBunny: i work from home
[14:00] <cnnx> BugzBunny: so go in the bios, and play with the boot priority
[14:00] <cnnx> instead of booting from the 60GB SSD
[14:00] <cnnx> i boot from a EFI device?
[14:01] <cnnx> or EFI parition?
[14:01] <BugzBunny> It's okay
[14:02] <BugzBunny> Windows will overwrite UEFI BIOS and Make it primary
[14:02] <BugzBunny> All you have to do is go to BIOS
[14:02] <BugzBunny> Set it back to Linux
[14:03] <tatertotz> mjayk: both failed in the same identical manner. true or false
[14:03] <BugzBunny> You don't have to worry about UEFI partitions and stuff
[14:03] <BugzBunny> Because all OSES obey UEFI spec
[14:04] <BugzBunny> There is ONLY one partition and all OSese SHOULD put their stuff their
[14:04] <BugzBunny> So far, I haven't seen mutile UEFI partitions on one Disk confused BIOS
[14:04] <tatertotz> mjayk: https://support.office.com/en-us/article/OneDrive-system-requirements-cc0cb2b8-f446-445c-9b52-d3c2627d681e
[14:06] <mjayk> tatertotz: thanks but im not sure that helps, unless you are trying to tell me it doesnt work. The onedrive for normal use stats teh same system requirements however onedrive-d exists, hence my question.
[14:07] <BugzBunny> cnnx: Depends on BIOS, my American Trends aka ASUS BIOS has a very friendly boot section
[14:08] <BugzBunny> cnnx: On the BOOT section, you can set the order and I nave EFI partions on different disks
[14:08] <vitalkanev> American Megatrends* ~BugzBunny
[14:08] <BugzBunny> Right
[14:09] <tatertotz> mjayk: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2360495
[14:10] <tatertotz> mjayk: i would not be surprised if Microsoft protected the larger "revenue stream" from  corporate/business users.....
[14:10] <tatertotz> much like any other corporation with "corporate" service plans
[14:11] <mjayk> tatertotz: thanks yea the onedrived-dev is the one i tried, sadly it doesnt work yet.
[14:11] <tatertotz> AT&T/On2/Tmobile/Verizon all have "B2B" business to business services...and no they are not "identical" to the consumer/residential crap
[14:13] <tatertotz> just as a $700 USD NVIDIA GTX xxxx is nothing to a $4000 USD NVIDIA Quadro
[14:13] <tatertotz> different league/ballgame
[14:14] <tatertotz> different ballgame completely
[14:14] <tatertotz> not even close to being the same game
[14:15] <BugzBunny> I am a Microsoft suporter, does that make me enemy number 1?
[14:15] <tatertotz> ...one is for boys that play games.....the other is for boys that.......??????
[14:15] <BugzBunny> Less not forget, Micrsoft put PC on the Market
[14:16] <Abule> BugzBunny, apple did..microsoft stole ideas and copied software
[14:16] <BugzBunny> Natual Selection
[14:17] <BugzBunny> Apple never did anything spectacular
[14:17] <hateball> All of this is very much better off in !ot
[14:17] <BugzBunny> No, from understanding, there was no DATA taht MS stole from Apple
[14:17] <BugzBunny> k
[14:17] <jink> hateball: ITYM /dev/null :P
[14:17] <Abule> BugzBunny, natural selection is when you have almost double the revenue..like apple does compared to ms
[14:17] <shanky> hi
[14:18] <shanky> some one could hellp me
[14:18] <mjayk> Hay tatertotz thanks for the link you have me earlier, read it a bit more carefully and one of the suggestions seams to be working with Onedrive for Buisness
[14:18] <BugzBunny> I don't want to be banned from the room
[14:18] <mjayk> tatertotz: thanks again
[14:18] <shanky> tatertotz: Hey
[14:18] <BugzBunny> So I end the conversation
[14:18] <tatertotz> shanky: hi
[14:18]  * BugzBunny is working why this Audio Player is not produce audio
[14:19] <shanky> tatertotz: can u help me now? i am having laptop
[14:19] <BugzBunny> Not like I care to much me being banned either way
[14:19] <BugzBunny> But meh
[14:19] <shanky> tatertotz: i tried ctrl+alt f1
[14:19] <shanky> its showing blinking cursor thats it
[14:20] <tatertotz> shanky: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader
[14:22] <shanky> tatertotz: is this bot loader problem?
[14:22] <tatertotz> shanky: boot rescue mode
[14:23] <tatertotz> shanky: you have more than one computer. true or false
[14:23] <BugzBunny> I need information
[14:23] <shanky> yes
[14:23] <shanky> tatertotz: true
[14:24] <shanky> tatertotz: please help me fix i have many apps installed in it dont want to loose them :(
[14:24] <tatertotz> shanky: you realize there's a really good chance you'll be reinstalling.
[14:25] <BugzBunny> Beside that
[14:25] <BugzBunny> Do you even know how Boot loader works
[14:25] <tatertotz> shanky: i know you want to be optimistic and all....but you don't get to be optimistic when you yank the power cord during kernel updates
[14:25] <BugzBunny> That's a very component
[14:25] <tatertotz> shanky: that's called "fatal"
[14:25] <BugzBunny> You should know POST
[14:25] <shanky> tatertotz: i dint do power cut its stucked no idea why :(
[14:25] <tatertotz> shanky: do you understand "fatal"
[14:26] <cnnx> BugzBunny: it worked!
[14:26] <shanky> tatertotz: disaster kind
[14:26] <cnnx> did it in under 5 minutes
[14:26] <cnnx> now my mining rig can be up all day
[14:26] <cnnx> you saved me 10$ :)
[14:26] <BugzBunny> cnnx: Awersome
[14:26] <cnnx> i love your nickname btw
[14:26] <cnnx> its cute
[14:27] <tatertotz> shanky: a "fatal" error has occurred
[14:27] <tatertotz> shanky: fatal and "critical"
[14:27] <BugzBunny> shanky: You need to understand what happens when you power on the system to you get OS
[14:28] <BugzBunny> You understand the between
[14:28] <shanky> tatertotz: so i am reinstalling teh ubuntu
[14:28] <shanky> :(
[14:28] <shanky> the only option
[14:29] <tatertotz> shanky: fatal is sometimes used inter changeable with "unrecoverable"
[14:29] <lesshaste> how do I connect to a remote desktop if I am given a rdp url?
[14:29] <shanky> tatertotz: i  got it . can u help me reinstallling the linux OS
[14:29] <shanky> tatertotz: i dont want to bug more here :)
[14:29] <tatertotz> shanky: if i catch a "cold" i will get better soon....if i contract a "fatal" illness...
[14:29] <lesshaste> as in https://www.foot.com//it-services/advice/homeusers/remote/staffdesktop/SlowBroadband_staff_desktop_service.rdp
[14:30] <BugzBunny> lesshaste: I use Remmina, it us Freerdp
[14:30] <lesshaste> BugzBunny, hmm... when I paste in the url I get Unable to connect to RDP server as in https
[14:30] <karjala__> Should we allow installation of the update offered by ubuntu that installs firmware update for Intel CPUs?
[14:31] <karjala__> I think I saw that Intel advises us not to install the update
[14:31] <BugzBunny> lesshaste: In remmina?
[14:31] <karjala__> So why is Canonical serving it?
[14:31] <lesshaste> BugzBunny, yes
[14:31] <lesshaste> BugzBunny,  can I pm you?
[14:31] <BugzBunny> You don't put a URL
[14:31] <BugzBunny> You put a HOST
[14:32] <Kon-> karjala__, IIRC the Intel microcode available right now has already been rolled back
[14:32] <Kon-> to the previous version
[14:32] <BugzBunny> Do youn understand what host is ? If not, if you are in lick, if myput.china.com resolve to IP.. that's a host
[14:32] <TJ-> karjala__: Yes; we backed out the 20180108 changes
[14:32] <Riaz_ID> hi
[14:33] <BugzBunny> lesshaste: First, DNS, not URL but host, it resolve to IP
[14:33] <tatertotz> shanky: you will need to be able to burn a DVD, means blank DVD+R, or a USB flash drive of appropriate capacity (north of 4GB is cool) then you need about 20 minutes - 1 hour to download/obtain a Linux ISO file..that's pretty much it
[14:34] <lesshaste> BugzBunny,  I which part of https://www.foot.com//it-services/advice/homeusers/remote/staffdesktop/SlowBroadband_staff_desktop_service.rdp do I put in remmina?
[14:34] <lesshaste> sorry for being dim
[14:34] <u0_a149_> ok
[14:34] <hateball> lesshaste: there's no software to import an RDP file, but you should be able to view its contents with a text editor
[14:35] <lesshaste> hateball, oh ok
[14:35] <BugzBunny> lesshaste: https << Hyper Text Protocol over Secure Socket Layer
[14:35] <mgaunard> hi, i started do-release-upgrade on 17.04 and it crashed my X
[14:35] <hateball> lesshaste: actually maybe you can import the RDP file in remmina.. I havent used that app myself
[14:36] <mgaunard> I can see that dpkg is still running, can I recover that session somehow?
[14:36] <hateball> lesshaste: at any rate you need to download it first
[14:36] <BugzBunny> The '//' are separaters, the 'www' is a sub domain of ffoot.com, which ffoot is a sub domain of com
[14:36] <lesshaste> hateball, thanks
[14:37] <BugzBunny> No
[14:37] <BugzBunny> The way RDP works
[14:37] <shanky> tatertotz: hey i used recovery option and used dpkg to fix it its updatig packages hope it will work
[14:37] <BugzBunny> You need to accept a SSL Certificate to connect
[14:37] <hateball> BugzBunny: The domain where this file is hosted doesnt need to have anything to do with the content of the RDP file
[14:38] <BugzBunny> No
[14:38] <BugzBunny> It doesn't, I have tested for quite awhile
[14:38] <u0_a149_> exit
[14:38] <BugzBunny> RDP is encrypted, for, RDP 4.x
[14:40] <shanky> tatertotz: it stopped after Started Braille Device Support
[14:44] <fabio123> hi
[15:02] <vanderberng> hi
[15:02] <vanderberng> how can i install ubuntu in a lenovo with ssd ?
[15:03] <auronandace> vanderberng: you can use a usb stick
[15:03] <vanderberng> i just bought this laptop and never had one with a ssd
[15:04] <vanderberng>  auronandace so i cant install it in the ssd?
[15:04] <auronandace> vanderberng: yes you can
[15:04] <vanderberng> is it hard to do? what steps should i follow
[15:04] <ducasse> Abule: install just like you would on a hdd
[15:04] <vanderberng> in the bios
[15:04] <ducasse> vanderberng: install just like you would on a hdd
[15:04] <vanderberng> ducasse, really? so ubuntu already supports ssd?
[15:05] <ducasse> of course
[15:05] <auronandace> vanderberng: if you are planning on installing 17.10 please make sure you use the updated iso
[15:06] <auronandace> vanderberng: they released it as 17.10.1
[15:06] <vanderberng> im used to do it in hdd so i shouldnt have any problems doing it in a ssd just by following the same steps with hdd? and keeping my windows 10?
[15:06] <vanderberng> i want dual boot
[15:06] <vanderberng> or should i format it at all?
[15:06] <vanderberng> before installing ubuntu?
[15:06] <auronandace> vanderberng: you may need to check how windows has the uefi set up
[15:07] <vanderberng> or can i just take a partition without losing my windows 10
[15:07] <auronandace> vanderberng: mine had it set up in raid mode so I had to change it to ahci
[15:07] <sadf> I cannot access http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/zesty/universe/source/Sources (404)
[15:07] <shanky> tatertotz: HEY BINGO
[15:07] <sadf> is this a problem on my side or is it down for everybody?
[15:08] <shanky> tatertotz: I recovered my system :)
[15:08] <vanderberng> so i should just change it from sdd to ahci and it would work like a hdd?
[15:08] <vanderberng> is it right?
[15:08] <auronandace> vanderberng: it depends on your setup. do you only have the one disk? an ssd?
[15:08] <vanderberng> and ofc desactivate uefi
[15:08] <vanderberng> yes
[15:08] <vanderberng> 120gb sdd
[15:08] <vanderberng> the internal one
[15:08] <auronandace> vanderberng: mine has an ssd and a hdd (which is why they set it up as raid)
[15:09] <vanderberng> oh ok
[15:09] <vanderberng> but that isnt my case
[15:09] <auronandace> vanderberng: sounds good
[15:09] <vanderberng> or would it be better to install ubuntu in a pendrive?
[15:09] <ducasse> sadf: zesty is eol, so the archives have been moved. you need to upgrade.
[15:09] <auronandace> vanderberng: you will need to install it in uefi mode if you want to dual boot win10 too
[15:10] <vanderberng> so i dont need to change it to ahci?
[15:10] <vanderberng> since ubuntu already supportss sdd?
[15:10] <sadf> ducasse, oh thanks!
[15:10] <auronandace> vanderberng: no, that was for the disk detection in thwe bios. You only have one disk so they wouldn't set it as raid
[15:11] <vanderberng> oh ok thanks bro
[15:11] <ducasse> !eolupgrade | sadf
[15:11] <vanderberng> it was very helpful
[15:12] <mindsauce> Hi, can someone please help me, I'm trying to purge the r-base-core package, but I can't because of a broken package "gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad"
[15:12] <vanderberng> i have heard some lenovos doesnt let u to install another OS
[15:12] <TJ-> mindsauce: try first "sudo apt-get -f install" to fix things
[15:13] <vanderberng> mine is lenovo ideapad 320
[15:13] <auronandace> vanderberng: another thing to keep in mind is if you need to use virtualbox or nvidia drivers you will need to disable secure boot (you don't need to do that if you are happy with nouveau)
[15:13] <vanderberng> im ok with nouveau
[15:14] <vanderberng> another thing , i didnt tried the last version of ubuntu yet , does it has the taskbar in the down side by default?
[15:14] <vanderberng> does it still use unity?
[15:14] <auronandace> vanderberng: the latest 17.10 uses gnome3 shell with a dock on the left
[15:14] <sadf> ducasse, actually I'm using the most up to date docker image of ubuntu:17.04, therefore I assumed they would have changed the /etc/apt/sources configuration
[15:15] <sadf> didn't realize, that the docker images also get eol'ed
[15:15] <tatertotz> shanky: what did you do to recover?
[15:16] <r00t-ID-041> ok
[15:18] <eraserpencil> why cant i run CS on ubuntu?
[15:19] <eraserpencil> it greys out after launch
[15:28] <mindsauce> @TJ I tried doing an apt-get -f install but it fails. So, the broken package is "libde265" but my guess is that apt can't install it because it's trying to overwrite a libde265 package version which is in the precise ppa. I don't know if I'm making sense.
[15:29] <mindsauce> I recently upgraded from precise to xenial btw
[15:29] <vanderberng> btw if i flash the ubuntu iso with rufus on a pendrive using mbr uefi bios option , do i still need to desactivate uefi on the bios?
[15:30] <mindsauce> Here's the error fwiw : Preparing to unpack .../libde265-0_1.0.2-2_amd64.deb ...
[15:30] <mindsauce> Unpacking libde265-0:amd64 (1.0.2-2) ...
[15:30] <mindsauce> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libde265-0_1.0.2-2_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[15:30] <mindsauce>  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libde265.so.0.0.10', which is also in package libde265:amd64 1.0.2-1ppa1~precise1
[15:30] <mindsauce> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[15:30] <mindsauce> Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu9) ...
[15:30] <vanderberng> if i dont desactivate it ,it will run windoes right? after rebooting , i guess?
[15:31] <ducasse> !paste | mindsauce
[15:33] <mindsauce> Really sorry for flooding. I'm a new user, didn't know the rules.
[15:35] <ducasse> mindsauce: what if you 'sudo apt-get purge libde265' first?
[15:38] <vanderberng>  Ubuntu 17.10 include SSD trim function ?
[15:38] <mindsauce> @ducasse apt-get still fails.
[15:40] <TJ-> mindsauce: "sudo apt-get remove libde265=1.0.2-1ppa1~precise1"
[15:45] <vanderberng> what is the best software to record the desktop on ubuntu?
[15:46] <Budgii> Never used these and didnt read the link.. but a quick search brought back this
[15:46] <Budgii> https://itsfoss.com/best-linux-screen-recorders/
[15:46] <BluesKaj> recordmydesktop I think
[15:46] <BluesKaj> vanderberng,^
[15:46] <Kon-> vanderberng, many people like SimpleScreenRecorder but if you want more powerful recording tools, OBS is great
[15:46] <vanderberng> and is there a software for ubuntu to download youtube videos?
[15:47] <ducasse> vanderberng: youtube-dl
[15:47] <vanderberng> to dowload videos without using a website
[15:48] <vanderberng> ty
[15:48] <siva_machina> simple video recorder is also pretty good for recording
[15:48] <vanderberng> is there anyone who has installed ubuntu on a ssd?
[15:49] <vanderberng> is there anyone who has a lenovo with ssd
[15:49] <vanderberng> with ubuntu installed
[15:49] <Budgii> I'm running linux on my SSD
[15:49] <mindsauce> TJ : tried that. apt still fails, same error as before. Here's the terminal output : https://pastebin.com/1Je45sit
[15:49] <Budgii> Its not lenovo though
[15:49] <vanderberng> but how big is ur SSD
[15:49] <Budgii> like 500 gb or something
[15:49] <siva_machina> simple screen recordr
[15:49] <vanderberng> u just have one SSD?
[15:49] <siva_machina> not video
[15:49] <Budgii> Yeah. just SSD nothing else. Laptop.
[15:50] <vanderberng> and how did u install it? did u have troubles?
[15:50] <hggdh> vanderberng: two SSDs here, one 250G m-sata, one 500G
[15:50] <vanderberng> and what ubuntu version u got installed?
[15:50] <hggdh> no trouble installing
[15:50] <vanderberng> are u using 17 version?
[15:50] <vanderberng> the latest?
[15:51] <Budgii> vanderberng, I was on windows10. I wrote it to a USB drive with a mounting program, made a partition and installed alongside windows.
[15:51] <hggdh> vanderberng: first install on 14.04, multiple installs later, currently running Bionic
[15:51] <Budgii> No, I am on linux Budgie.
[15:51] <vanderberng> nice
[15:51] <vanderberng> thats exactly what im about to do Budgii
[15:51] <Budgii> hggdh.. bionic sounds cool!
[15:51] <vanderberng> i hope i dont have troubles by doing it on a ssd , i have experience by doing it in hdd
[15:52] <vanderberng> but never in ssd , so if its the same , i should not have problems
[15:52] <hggdh> vanderberng: there should be no visble difference
[15:52] <Budgii> Should be no different
[15:52] <ducasse> vanderberng: it's exactly the same procedure
[15:52] <Budgii> It just doesn't have mechanical function, hard drive is just faster
[15:52] <vanderberng> i didnt try yet , but i searched info about lenovo laptops with ssd and i got scared
[15:53] <alazeo> hey, how can i get help for an ubuntu grub/initframs problem. I have used a grub boot repair program and it said to seek help with the provided information.
[15:53] <vanderberng> there are some forums who said , microsoft and lenovo locked the bios
[15:53] <vanderberng> and it all
[15:53] <Budgii> ah. I wouldnt man. I mean installing windows 7 on a really brand new laptop may have an issue, but with linux i think you should be fine.
[15:53] <vanderberng> but what laptop do u have
[15:53] <Budgii> Oh yeah, all you need to do is go through UEFI and turn off secure boot
[15:53] <Budgii> They made a hurdle but it's not impossible. :)
[15:54] <vanderberng> no ,but it was something further uefi
[15:54] <Budgii> Share a link if you can, I can review
[15:54] <vanderberng> ok hold on
[15:55] <alazeo> I get a grub menu on boot with the correct ubuntu option but after selecting it goed into a initframs console. From where I don't get it working. The repair help gave this link with the information: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26451017/
[15:56] <vincenzoml> Hi there. I like gnome3 a lot for everyday use, but need a secondary session to log in for live audio purposes (jackd, realtime and the likes) with no background daemons. I saw that installing either xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop brings in a huge selection of packages. I only need a very light window manager for a specific task, what can I use?
[15:56] <alexandros> Με ποιο πρόγραμμα ανοίγει ένα αρχείο κειμένου  που στα windows άνοιγε με  σημειωματάριο ? Συγκεκριμένα είναι υπότιτλοι από ταινία .
[15:56] <rafael> Hello everyone. Firefox 58 wont support CSD on ubuntu?
[15:57] <leftyfb> rafael: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/11/firefox-nightly-adds-csd-option
[15:58] <ducasse> vincenzoml: something like openbox, fluxbox, fvwm etc?
[16:00] <vanderberng> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37431299 Budgii
[16:00] <leftyfb> alexandros: /join #ubuntu-gr
[16:00] <rafael> leftyfb: yeah, stable is not doing this
[16:01] <leftyfb> rafael: not yet, no.
[16:01] <vanderberng> Lenovo's Signature laptops refuse to install Linux
[16:01] <vanderberng> Linux was blocked because of an "agreement of lenovo with Microsoft"
[16:02] <rafael> leftyfb: Ive tried stable that was released today
[16:02] <rafael> Not working with CSD
[16:02] <ducasse> vanderberng: only applies to laptops labelled 'microsoft signature'
[16:03] <otherRick> good day, I develop a custom module that trigger events using /dev/input/by-id/usb-custom_App.-event-if00. I see some debug traces in the syslog; I need a setting for read the key events in the user space?
[16:03] <leftyfb> rafael: as I just said. It's not released in the stable version yet. You'll have to wait till the Mozilla foundation releases the feature in the stable version.
[16:04] <rafael> leftyfb: Oh, OK. Sorry.
[16:04] <vanderberng> ducasse, going back to the last topic , so , i shouldnt change sdd to ahci before installing ubuntu alongside windows right?
[16:04] <keto> asd
[16:05] <ducasse> vanderberng: i would, in raid mode it might not work with linux
[16:05] <rafael> leftyfb: Well, I mean... the nightly from link you provided is 57. Stable from today is 58. I thought it would work.
[16:06] <leftyfb> rafael: that doesn't matter. If the feature isn't releases in stable yet, it stays in the nightlies for more testing. Any further support/discussion on the matter should be brought to Mozilla and their support channels
[16:06] <Budgii> vanderberng: "The restriction affects PCs sold with the "signature edition" of Windows 10."
[16:06] <vanderberng> ducasse, but i only have a SSD 120gb , is it still needed to change it?
[16:06] <Budgii> vanderberng, also do you have the yoga laptop?
[16:07] <vanderberng> ducasse,  but they told me ubuntu 17.10.1 supports ssd trim
[16:07] <ducasse> vanderberng: yes, i've seen this before . it needed to be in ahci mode to work
[16:07] <ducasse> vanderberng: trim is on by default
[16:07] <iresf> problem :  i installed ubuntu 18.04 on a laptop with radeon R5 graphic card    and then i install mesa on it after upgrading mouse click doese not  work but in recovery mode there is no problem
[16:07] <ducasse> !ubuntu+1 | iresf
[16:07] <leftyfb> iresf: please go to #ubuntu+1 for unreleased versions of ubuntu
[16:08] <vanderberng> +where do i change to ahci in the bio?
[16:08] <vanderberng> im already in the bio
[16:08] <vanderberng> so if i dont change it to ahci it wont let me to install ubuntu alongside windows?
[16:09] <Budgii> are you on the signature version of windows 10?
[16:09] <vanderberng> but Budgii told me i just have to do the same steps as with a hdd
[16:09] <ducasse> vanderberng: it might already be in ahci mode, just try
[16:09] <Budgii> Do you have a partition?
[16:09] <Budgii> It should be virtually the same
[16:09] <vanderberng> no i dont have any partitions created yet
[16:09] <Budgii> dont do it then..
[16:09] <vanderberng> i will do it with gparted
[16:09] <vanderberng> before installing ubuntu
[16:09] <Budgii> gotcha
[16:09] <ducasse> vanderberng: free up some space from windows, then try to install
[16:09] <Budgii> yeah just install on the partition
[16:10] <vanderberng> but what i want to know is , can i create partitions on SDD just like i was used to do in hdd
[16:10] <vanderberng> ?
[16:10] <vanderberng> as i said i have no clue about ssd
[16:10] <vanderberng> so im afraid to do something wrong
[16:10] <jimb_> vanderberng, unsure how you used to do it, but you should still be able to do the same. It's a storage device, just like the HDD
[16:10] <ducasse> vanderberng: yes, they behave the same
[16:11] <vanderberng> so , do i need to change it to ahci before?
[16:11] <Budgii> Yes it is the same, just runs faster than a mechanical harddrive. It's just like a car, it has a different engine but you can still drive it like normal. :)
[16:11] <jimb_> vanderberng, just-in-case you didn't know and this applies... please don't do any kind of defrag on the SSD, unless it's a tool from the manufacturer/etc
[16:11] <vanderberng> Budgii,  so i dont need to change it to ahci right?
[16:12] <keto> asd
[16:12] <vanderberng> u got u Budgii
[16:13] <ducasse> vanderberng: it most likely is in ahci mode already, but turn off intel srt if there is an option for it
[16:13] <Budgii> TBH I don't remember what ahci is, it sounds familiar though ha
[16:14] <vanderberng> http://forums.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/Why-do-i-need-AHCI-with-a-SSD-Drive-Guide-Here-Crucial-AHCI-vs/td-p/57078
[16:14] <vanderberng> check it Budgii
[16:14] <Budgii> kk
[16:14] <mindsauce> ducasse : It seems my apt is broken. I can't use it at all. It says the package "gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad" has a dependency "libde265-0(>=0.8)". But I can't seem to do either an "apt-get -f install" or use apt-get to install the dependency i.e libde265. It's kind of a catch-22. What do I do ?
[16:15] <Budgii> vanderberng: "AHCI is fully supported out of the box for Microsoft Windows Vista and the Linux operating system from kernel 2.6.19. NetBSD also supports drivers in"
[16:15] <vanderberng> anyways Budgii  , u said u have SSD as well ,and u didnt change it to ahci mode
[16:15] <alazeo> I have a problem on booting where after grub it goes into an initframs console. I can't get the system to work correctly, Is there anyone that can help on this issue? I tried grub-repair which didnt repair it but did gave me system and boot information: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26451017/
[16:15] <vanderberng> and it worked well for u
[16:15] <leftyfb> mindsauce: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:15] <ducasse> mindsauce: try 'sudo dpkg --purge libde265' to remove the precise version you have now
[16:15] <mindsauce> Xenial
[16:15] <Budgii> vanderberng: yeah I didn't do anything special just installed it on a partition. :)
[16:16] <Budgii> Works like a charm
[16:16] <vanderberng> ok ducasse thanks for the info
[16:16] <leftyfb> mindsauce: mindsauce do you have the Universe repo enabled?
[16:16] <vanderberng> so i already disabled uefi
[16:16] <vanderberng> to lefacy mode
[16:17] <vanderberng> so i think i dont need to do anything else
[16:17] <vanderberng> right?
[16:17] <Budgii> Nice. What are you installing the .iso on?
[16:17] <ducasse> vanderberng: as i said, ahci is most likely the default already, so just try to install
[16:17] <Budgii> cd/usb?
[16:17] <vanderberng> on a pendrive
[16:17] <vanderberng> i already burned it
[16:17] <vanderberng> to a pendrive
[16:17] <ducasse> vanderberng: if windows is installed in uefi mode you need to install ubuntu in it as well
[16:18] <Budgii> cool. once you get it mounted just go to boot device order, f9 or escape on mine. then select the drive from the list and viola
[16:18] <vanderberng> im about to create a partition now
[16:18] <vanderberng> before
[16:18] <Budgii> w00t
[16:19] <vanderberng> i think its better to create the partitoin than creating it in the installation
[16:19] <vanderberng> no?
[16:19] <Budgii> That;s what I did.
[16:19] <mindsauce> leftyb: Yeah I think so
[16:19] <Budgii> create it then install on it.
[16:19] <vanderberng> one question
[16:20] <vanderberng> my sdd is 120gb , i want to have for windows as less space as possible
[16:20] <vanderberng> how much space should i keep for windows?
[16:20] <EriC^^> alazeo: does it mention anything before dropping to the initramfs?
[16:20] <vanderberng> the minimum
[16:20] <vanderberng> what should be a good minimum?
[16:20] <Budgii> Good question.. i'm sure there is a minimum option in there, not for certain though
[16:20] <Budgii> I think by default it wouldn't let you go any less.
[16:20] <Budgii> than it could.
[16:21] <vanderberng> i was thinking of keeping 20gb for windows
[16:21] <vanderberng> and the rest for ubuntu
[16:21] <Budgii> thats probably okay. will it let you?
[16:21] <vanderberng> the 100gb left
[16:21] <Budgii> "The partition must have at least 20 gigabytes (GB) of drive space for 64-bit versions, or 16 GB for 32-bit versions."
[16:21] <vanderberng> its 130 gb the ssd but u know it always has less than it is
[16:22] <vanderberng> around 126 or so
[16:22] <Budgii> should be good with 20.
[16:22] <vanderberng> btw , how should i move the taksbar of ubuntu
[16:23] <vanderberng> i mean , what would be the simple wa
[16:23] <vanderberng> way
[16:23] <vanderberng> to move it down
[16:23] <Budgii> move the taskbar?
[16:23] <Budgii> to the bottom like windows you mean?
[16:23] <mindsauce> ducasse : wow, thanks! That worked.
[16:23] <vanderberng> yes
[16:23] <Budgii> What version of linux again, sorry
[16:23] <leandro_> yes too
[16:23] <vanderberng> but the simplest possible way
[16:24] <vanderberng> 17
[16:24] <vanderberng> ubuntu
[16:24] <vanderberng> 17.10.1
[16:25] <ducasse> mindsauce: np, now let apt install -f clean it up, but remove the apt source for the precise ppa first
[16:25] <Budgii> run this command: sudo apt-move 'taskmgr' 1500=12*902132/bottom_end_totally_trolling
[16:25] <Budgii> try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7x58p7h92Q
[16:25] <vanderberng> and a good way to make ubuntu look cooler?
[16:25] <vanderberng> without consumming so many recurces
[16:25] <Budgii> change your background
[16:25] <Budgii> lol
[16:25] <vanderberng> lol
[16:26] <vanderberng> well , this lenovo is powerful , dont care if it needs to waste a bit more of power
[16:26] <vanderberng> recurces
[16:26] <Budgii> I'm sure you can just change the color scheme.
[16:26] <Budgii> or theme.. what ever
[16:26] <vanderberng> but how was that software called to change everything
[16:27] <vanderberng> im outdated
[16:27] <Budgii> If you are referring to the video I didnt watch it
[16:27] <vanderberng> what video?
[16:27] <Budgii> vanderberng: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7x58p7h92Q
[16:27] <vanderberng> no , im not talking about any video , i mean a way to make it look cooler
[16:28] <Budgii> put ice cubes on it
[16:28] <mindsauce> ducasse: Yeah, did that, apt-get finally works. Thanks a lot. So, I have another question. I am trying to uninstall and reinstall R in my system. Should I just remove the r-base package alone or should I remove it's dependent packages as well ? Or should I purge it ?
[16:28] <vanderberng> yes , that is what i meant
[16:28] <vanderberng> there was a sofware who had it all
[16:28] <vanderberng> but cant remember the name
[16:28] <Budgii> Style is by perception my friend, only you can decide what is defined as 'cool'. :)
[16:29] <Budgii> Are you using an IRC program for this chat?
[16:29] <vanderberng> xchat
[16:29] <Budgii> Cool. I'm on HexChat, i've changed the colors and made a theme I like. Thats made it look cool to me.
[16:29] <ducasse> mindsauce: try with 'apt install --reinstall'
[16:30] <mindsauce> ducasse: Okay, will do.
[16:31] <vanderberng> so i am in gparted now
[16:31] <Joche> i use irssi
[16:31] <vanderberng> should i click on rezise the partition from windows?
[16:31] <vanderberng> of windows
[16:32] <Budgii> Are you booted into windows
[16:32] <Joche> i use an old laptop and it work very fine
[16:32] <vanderberng> and create another one for the linux swap?
[16:33] <vanderberng> how much for the linux swap ? 2gb?
[16:33] <Budgii> No idea man. i didn't do anything with that haha
[16:33] <Budgii> sounds fair
[16:33] <ducasse> vanderberng: you don't need a partition for swap, it will set up a swapfile by default
[16:33] <vanderberng> i guess u did it all form the ubuntu installation
[16:33] <vanderberng> right?
[16:33] <Joche> what is the RAM of you pc
[16:33] <Budgii> Correct
[16:34] <Budgii> 6GB here Joche.
[16:34] <Joche> 2GB is good enough
[16:34] <vanderberng> ducasse,  , the thing is that i am running ubuntu from the pendrive to open gparted and create the needed partitions
[16:34] <Budgii> Yeah 2GB works great on some OS's
[16:34] <vanderberng> or should i just run the installation?
[16:34] <Budgii> Joche, there are some flavors that can run on 128mb of ram
[16:34] <Joche> i use that in my 8GB pc
[16:35] <Joche> yes
[16:35] <Joche> Try damn small linux
[16:35] <ducasse> vanderberng: just run the installer, it will set up a swapfile for you
[16:36] <vanderberng> ducasse, but i dont have any partition but the windows one , should i just click on install alongside windows?
[16:37] <Budgii> I thought you made a partition 100gb?
[16:37] <vanderberng> no i was about to do that
[16:37] <vanderberng> but ducasse  told me to just run the installatio
[16:37] <ducasse> vanderberng: yes, just let the installer do the rest
[16:38] <Joche> it is very useful
[16:38] <vanderberng> Joche, damn small linux?
[16:38] <vanderberng> never tried
[16:38] <Joche> the installer should do everything fine, just choose how much diskspace you need
[16:41] <vanderberng> should i mark , dowload updates while installing ubuntu? and install thiird parties?
[16:42] <Budgii> I did.
[16:42] <vanderberng> do u guys ever mark it before installing?
[16:42] <vanderberng> third parties too ?
[16:42] <Budgii> I did, I think its just some basic plugins and stuff,  but not for sure.
[16:43] <oerheks> it is an option, saves some time too
[16:44] <vanderberng> why the ubuntu installation doesnt let me set it below 30gb for the windows patition?
[16:45] <vanderberng> my windows installation is clean, it takes like 15 gb
[16:45] <vanderberng> so why doesnt let me set it in 20?
[16:45] <Budgii> is it 32bit windows?
[16:45] <oerheks> i would let windows decrease the partition.
[16:45] <Joche> move the slide to the desired amount of space, it should be enough
[16:46] <vanderberng> thats what i did Joche  but it doesnt let me to put it in less than 30gb
[16:46] <Budgii> Probably what it needs then.
[16:46] <Joche> maybe you are take too much sapace for windows to run properly
[16:47] <oerheks> if the installer lets you do that, up to 15 gb, people complain about no space free
[16:47] <vanderberng> how much can take the resize operation in a ssd?
[16:47] <vanderberng> should it be faster than in hdd?
[16:47] <Budgii> I wouldn't think long, but should be faster as it's an SSD.
[16:48] <Joche> i dont know but in my HDD it is pretty fast
[16:48] <Joche> and it is an old acer that used to run windows vista
[16:48] <vanderberng> it was really fast
[16:49] <vanderberng> in sdd its fast as fuck
[16:49] <Joche> hehehe
[16:49] <oerheks> vanderberng, no need for that language, keep this channel family friendly, thanks
[16:49] <Joche> from now it must be easy
[16:50] <vanderberng> sorry
[16:52] <vanderberng> where are you all from
[16:52] <Joche> im from spain
[16:52] <Joche> tenerife
[16:53] <Joche> sorry for my english
[16:53] <vanderberng> im from the netherlands
[16:53] <vanderberng> amsterdam
[16:54] <vanderberng> where is most people here from?
[16:55] <EriC^^> i'd say europe
[16:55] <morsnowski> home
[16:55] <maxime_> Belgium here
[16:55] <vanderberng> id say america?
[16:55] <morsnowski> rather Europe
[16:55] <morsnowski> germany here
[16:55] <en1gma> how can you tell in ubuntu 16.04 x86_64 Desktop to see which usb is in use? say i plug my mouse receiver into each of my laptops 4 ports. how can i tell which are usb 3.0 and which are usb 2.0
[16:55] <morsnowski> lsusb
[16:56] <en1gma> i looked at that
[16:56] <en1gma> 'lsusb -v'
[16:56] <vanderberng> so where are most ubuntu volunteers from?
[16:56] <vanderberng> europe?
[16:56] <xplora1a> Europe,,, Bollaks to brexit
[16:56] <Joche> usb 3.0 is blue colored
[16:56] <EriC^^> en1gma: usb 3.0 ports usually say "SS" next to them or something, and they look different and are blue sometimes
[16:56] <Budgii> sometimes it says on the computer itself next to the port.
[16:56] <oerheks> en1gma, basicly usb3 has a blue plastic inside
[16:56] <Budgii> I think you're right Joche
[16:56] <leftyfb> en1gma: lsusb -t
[16:56] <en1gma> lemme try that
[16:56] <leftyfb> en1gma: 5000M is usb 3.0
[16:57] <gollem> Hey I recently upgraded from precise to xenial , how do I make sure I've deleted precise ppa sources.  Here's my /etc/apt/sources.list : https://pastebin.com/g0Y0idTq
[16:57] <sine0> hey guys what differences are there between the server and desktop verison of ubuntu, only reason I ask is that i have server on usb, installed to a server etc and I was thinking of putting it onto my laptop
[16:57] <leftyfb> en1gma: 480M is usb 2.0
[16:57] <leftyfb> sine0: a desktop
[16:57] <vanderberng> i am done
[16:57] <leftyfb> sine0: more details, an installed desktop
[16:57] <Budgii> Glad to hear it vanderberng
[16:57] <ducasse> gollem: look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d as well
[16:58] <EriC^^> gollem: can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* too?
[16:58] <vanderberng> it was easier than i expected
[16:58] <Budgii> Indeed. :)
[16:58] <vanderberng> i got scared about what ive read about sdd
[16:58] <leftyfb> gollem: ppa's go into separate files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[16:58] <Joche> me ale gro muchaaaacho
[16:58] <Joche> congrats
[16:58] <vanderberng> Budgii, is there any way to change the gub?
[16:58] <en1gma> leftyfb ahh ok (480M) thanks
[16:58] <vanderberng> grub
[16:59] <Joche> now you're one of us
[16:59] <gollem> ducasse: So, I just delete/comment out files in sources.list.d that contain the name "precise" ? Will that work ?
[16:59] <Joche> one of us one of us...
[16:59] <cesco969> ciao
[16:59] <vanderberng> i mean , to set a nicer grub
[16:59] <cesco969> !list
[16:59] <vanderberng> is there any way?
[16:59] <EriC^^> vanderberng: there's a grub-customizer package, give it a shot
[16:59] <vanderberng> ok bro
[16:59] <ducasse> gollem: or use ppa-purge
[17:00] <vanderberng> is it for removing the grub?
[17:00] <Joche> i got to go now
[17:00] <vanderberng> or?
[17:00] <Joche> bye
[17:00] <vanderberng> bye
[17:00] <EriC^^> vanderberng: it lets you customize some stuff, i think
[17:01] <EriC^^> https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/ubuntu/grub-customizer
[17:01] <BluesKaj> also you can  the GRUB_BACKROUND=/pathtoj.pg  to add aa nice picture backaground , vanderberng
[17:01] <BluesKaj> add the line
[17:01] <EriC^^> *GRUB_BACKGROUND
[17:02] <vanderberng> Budgii, are u there
[17:02] <gollem> ducasse:  Sorry if this is a dumb question but if I use ppa-purge, how will I know exactly which ones to delete ?
[17:02] <vanderberng> can u please send me the command to move the taskbar
[17:02] <alazeo> When booting and selecting my os in grub the startup drops to the initframs shell. From here I can't get my system working. I tried grup-repair help which didnt work but gave me the following boot/system information: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26451017/
[17:02] <vanderberng> i cant scroll the chat upper
[17:02] <vanderberng> i lost the old messages
[17:03] <oerheks> vanderberng, explore system settings > dock
[17:04] <BluesKaj> EriC^^, my eyes aren't very good today, didn't see that mistake
[17:04] <jimb_> vanderberng, I think you said you were using xchat. You may want to check in Settings, Preferences, Logging... and enable logging.
[17:04] <vanderberng> thanks  oerheks
[17:04] <vanderberng> done
[17:04] <oerheks> and gnome-tweak-tool is another fine app
[17:04] <EriC^^> BluesKaj: :)
[17:05] <oerheks> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[17:05] <ducasse> gollem: any that are for precise, at least
[17:06] <vanderberng> oerheks,  thanks i remember that one , is there any other one for look options
[17:06] <vanderberng> to put cubes and all that