[04:29] <komies> but its behaviour is similar to its behaviour on windows. Popups in firefox, trying to prevent you from closing the fake windows security center page, etc
[04:29] <computer_> yes but not completely, works better with gnome environment
[04:29] <n00b823> well do: sudo apt-get remove firefox
[04:29] <DMJC> hmm
[04:29] <n00b823> then reinstall it
[04:29] <legend2440> josvuk: i think this will give you 3.2  http://gnuradio.org/trac/wiki/DebianPackages
[04:29] <DMJC> removing firefox won't necessarily remove it
[04:29] <vede> VLC was running fine a while ago.
[04:29] <DMJC> also look in /usr and home/.mozilla .firefox folders
[04:29] <n00b823> try: sudo aptitude purge firefox then?
[04:29] <computer_> vede, have u tried to reinstall?
[04:30] <vede> But then I tried fiddling with PulseAudo, and now it doesn't work.
[04:30] <vede> Yes, I've reinstalled VLC.
[04:30] <Flannel> fefer: Is there something we can help you with?
[04:30] <DMJC> vede: IMHO pulseaudio is crap
[04:30] <dsnyders> dbbolton, Is there a reason you want to change the number of startup shells?
[04:30] <DMJC> I prefer to go pure alsa
[04:30] <vede> What should I use?
[04:30] <Clorox> try: mv ~/.mozilla ~/mozilla~
[04:30] <komies> ok, going to check in firefox's folders first
[04:30] <vede> What is alsa?
[04:30] <komies> where is /usr located?
[04:30] <DMJC> Ubuntu has pulseaudio for convenience
[04:30] <Clorox> then starting firefox up again
[04:30] <josvuk> legend2440: No, there are no packages for ppc
[04:30] <Vovk> advanced linux sound somethingorother
[04:30] <josvuk> :-(
[04:30] <DMJC> basically ALSA is what's sitting underneath pulseaudio
[04:31] <komies> The thing is... it's sporadic, and I can't duplicate it, so I won't really know if anything's worked. x_x
[04:31] <Vovk> and to be honest, You would want Pulseaudio when you want dynamic software mixing :)
[04:31] <vede> Okay...
[04:31] <webbb8> what is the apps name that stores your minamized applications then click on the icon and maximise
[04:31] <Vovk> i.e.
[04:31] <Vovk> playing 2 programs
[04:31] <Vovk> which both make sounds
[04:31] <legend2440> josvuk: oh ok forgot you said ppc
[04:31] <Vovk> at the same time
[04:31] <FloodBot2> Vovk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:31] <vede> I want my headset to be able to send audio to Skype.
[04:31] <fefer> Flannel, hmm, probably not.
[04:31] <vede> Right now I can test it with PulseAudio, and it works, but Skype won't detect it.
[04:31] <komies> What would I be looking for in the firefox folders?
[04:31] <ramavadakattu> i could not able to setup the virtual hosts properly on Ubuntu.all virtual hosts (for which i have create files in sites-enabled directory)  (www.alumclub.net,groupalumni.com ) pointing to default "It works Page". Any clue on what going wrong?
[04:32] <DMJC> Vovk what the hell?
[04:32] <almostAg33k> anyone use ninjavideo?
[04:32] <DMJC> I never ever use pulseaudio for that infact it seems to mess up more than it helps (static when playing anything with cpu load)
[04:32] <Vovk> DMJC i was never able to get alsa to get 2 programs to both play sounds at the same time
[04:32] <DMJC> audigy 2 platinum pro card here
[04:32] <DMJC> works fine
[04:32] <vede> Is it a problem that I don't have a sound card?
[04:32] <Vovk> DMJC pulseaudio fixed the problem for me
[04:33] <Vovk> vede, your mother board should have one
[04:33] <fefer> Flannel, unless you have a way to use snmpv3 without inputting a password and without having a cleartext password file snmp.conf < to initiate snmpv3traps. also not using pki
[04:33] <vede> yeah, I'm pretty sure it does.
[04:33] <DMJC> do an lspci
[04:33] <vede> Alright, so... any ideas on how to get Skype to work?
[04:33] <DMJC> and paste it to me in a private window
[04:34] <DMJC> skype'll use either alsa or pulseaudio
[04:34] <DMJC> it can use both
[04:34] <vede> Well, right now it's not using either.
[04:34] <vede> Or if it is, it's not properly catching my headset.
[04:34] <DMJC> which skype version are you using?
[04:35] <vede> Um...
[04:35] <DMJC> there's the one the distro ships with and then there's the website's version
[04:35] <vede> I got the one off the website.
[04:35] <DMJC> ok
[04:35] <DMJC> that's what I'm using
[04:35] <alus> I'm setting up a new server
[04:35] <vede> :/ said it was for intrepid, is that a problem?
[04:35] <alus> what version of Ubuntu should I use?
[04:35] <DMJC> shouldn't be a problem and it shouldn't mater
[04:35] <DMJC> alus: either use commandline only
[04:35] <vede> Okay.
[04:35] <DMJC> or use a gui ubuntu
[04:35] <[nodus]_> so what do folks think of the new ck schedualer
[04:36] <[nodus]_> i see why mainline wouldnt want it
[04:36] <austin__> Hey, I wan't to access my server staus reports in apache, but i don't know how to set it up in ubuntu.  can anyone help me out?
[04:36] <alus> dmjc: this is for a headless server, so a GUI will not be useful
[04:36] <DMJC> ok
[04:36] <alus> I mean, which version number?
[04:36] <DMJC> use CLI only then
[04:36] <[nodus]_> but it seems like something right up ubuntu's alley
[04:36] <alus> 8? 9?
[04:36] <DMJC> use 9.04
[04:36] <bastid_raZor> alus: stability wise go with LTS versions.. 8.04 then 9.10
[04:36] <Guest85400> Anyone?
[04:36] <Jyard> anyone know of a website that explains how to install screenlets in ubuntu jaunty ? can't seem to find a workable site on google
[04:36] <DMJC> avoid 9.10 unless you want bleeding edge
[04:36] <webbb8> what is the app that when you minamize a window it will goto the panel   , what applet is that   i want to find a 3rd party one
[04:36] <hacked_kernel> I got ubuntu jaunty on dell inpiron 1525, the sound was working fine but suddenly it stopped working "device: null output pulse audio"
[04:37] <alus> DMJC: how about 9.04 ?
[04:37] <ssgtstory> maximus?
[04:37] <DMJC> 9.04 was quite stable on my laptop
[04:37] <vede> This IRC is insane.
[04:37] <DMJC> 9.10 is still getting lots of patches/updates
[04:37] <alus> ok.
[04:37] <Clorox> webbb8: I think that's AllTray
[04:37] <alus> and 8.10 is just too old?
[04:38] <Clorox> Jyard: it's in Synaptic
[04:38] <DMJC> 8.10 isn't too old but you'll probably find it's easier to run a bit newer
[04:38] <alus> ok
[04:38]  * alus settles on 9.04
[04:38] <DMJC> newer = more user friendly, older = more tested
[04:38] <quentusrex> Does anyone know of a way to debug a corrupted torrent file?
[04:38] <[nodus]_> depends completely on what he is doing
[04:38] <webbb8> no not alltray   is it the taskmanager
[04:39] <[nodus]_> if he is tossing apache on a headless box
[04:39] <quentusrex> I can't find out why I'm having problems with the creation of a torrent file...
[04:39] <webbb8> if i were to minamize this window it would normaly goto the panel   what app does this
[04:39] <Jyard> Clorox: ah right on ty
[04:39] <Clorox> what?
[04:39] <Guest85400> does anybody know anything about apache?
[04:39] <webbb8> task manager?
[04:40] <Clorox> Guest85400: what about apache?
[04:40]  * vede still needs help with Skype...
[04:40] <Clorox> :( sorry, can't help you with Skype
[04:40] <bastid_raZor> webbb8: there is an applet of sorts that displays that in the bottom panel. have you lost this?
[04:40] <Guest85400> Clorox: I eddited my .conf file to see server staus...but when i try to visit it in my browser it says permission denyed...i wan't to view it though
[04:41] <webbb8> bassliner: yes
[04:41]  * vede also thinks this IRC should be split up into a few smaller channels so it's not so chaotic, and people can actually get help.
[04:41] <webbb8> i  del the panel
[04:41] <Guest85400> Clorox: Think you can help me with this?
[04:41] <Clorox> Guest85400: what are the permissions of the file set to?
[04:41] <Guest85400> Clorox: Ah, yes the permissions....of the .conf file?
[04:41] <Clorox> Guest85400: yes
[04:41] <bastid_raZor> !panels | webbb8 .. the easiest way.
[04:42] <Guest85400> Clorox: read-only and root
[04:42] <Clorox> Guest85400: gimme Octal.
[04:42] <Guest85400> Clorox: Octal?
[04:43] <Guest85400> Clorox: What is that?
[04:43] <Clorox> Guest85400: yeah, hang on a sec
[04:43] <Guest85400> Clorox: k
[04:43] <almostAg33k> can i get google chrome on  ubuntu?
[04:43] <webbb8> bastid_raZor:  ya i was trying to find the name of the applets that does this so i can try to find a alternative app
[04:43] <Jet_Li> hi peoples!!!
[04:43] <Clorox> Guest85400: gimme the output of "ls -a /etc/apache2/"
[04:44] <vede> Oh wow. VLC started working.
[04:44] <LinuX2half> is it normal that I don't have a proprietary driver installed?
[04:44] <vede> Just, randomly.
[04:44] <bastid_raZor> webbb8: window list is the name of it. you can find it by right clicking the panel and add to panel then at the main bottom of the list.
[04:44] <biggleswirth> would anyone be able to tell me why a connection to my ubuntu server keeps dropping on my local network (tricky one)?
[04:44] <Guest85400> Clorox: austin@austin-desktop:~$ ls -a /etc/apache2/
[04:44] <Guest85400> .   apache2.conf  envvars     httpd.conf~     mods-enabled  sites-available
[04:44] <Guest85400> ..  conf.d        httpd.conf  mods-available  ports.conf    sites-enabled
[04:44] <Guest85400> austin@austin-desktop:~$
[04:44] <FloodBot2> Guest85400: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:44] <DMJC> vede, my money is on pulseaudio cocking up
[04:44] <Guest85400> whoops..paspebin my bad
[04:44] <Clorox> Guest85400: Whoops, I mean "ls -l /etc/apache2"
[04:44] <Clorox> sorry
[04:45] <vede> Now let's see if Skype works...
[04:45] <SJr> What is a relatively painless spamfilter I can setup with exim
[04:45] <Guest85400> clorox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/266442/
[04:45] <Darkebrz> Wee, time to install Linux
[04:46] <Guest85400> darkebrz: Good luck friend
[04:46] <legend2440> LinuX2half: open system>admin>hardware drivers  any drivers in there to activate?
[04:46] <vede> Nope, Skype doesn't work.
[04:46] <prince_jammys> Guest85400: what is it that you try to visit in your browser?
[04:46] <Clorox> Guest85400: Well, it's set to read... I don't know what to say
[04:46] <prince_jammys> Guest85400: also, try #apache if it has to do with your server configuration.
[04:46] <LinuX2half> legend2440, no, it said there's no proprietary
[04:46] <vede> It seems like I should just be able to change the source/sink and be fine...
[04:46] <kurt_> anyone have any idea how to chainload other mbr's from grub2 by any chance?
[04:47] <Guest85400> prince_jammys: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/server-status is what im trying to do
[04:47] <LinuX2half> legend2440, drivers install
[04:47] <binarycortex> good evening
[04:47] <binarycortex> i need some help
[04:47] <almostAg33k> can any one tell me how to make a partition so i can instal xp?
[04:47] <Guest85400> prince_jammys: It keeps saying I don't have permisssion to acces /server-status on this server
[04:47] <LinuX2half> legend2440, its said that there's no driver in use in this system
[04:47] <prince_jammys> Guest85400: ok. perhaps you have it disallowed in your configuration files. visit apache's own irc channel, #apache
[04:47] <legend2440> LinuX2half: you may have to use open source. what card?
[04:47] <binarycortex> i need to burn an iso from the live cd
[04:48] <Guest85400> prince_jammys: alright, thank you :)
[04:48] <ramavadakattu> all virtual hosts in ubuntu are pointing the default site.Any clue on what is going wrong?
[04:48] <GuidMorrow> prince_jammys: what the crap, cinelerra crashed, and now Computer Janitor wants to clean it away from my system
[04:48] <prince_jammys> GuidMorrow: hehe. i installed it too!
[04:48] <LucidGuy> Can anyone recommend good wifi scanning Ubuntu/Linux app?
[04:48] <binarycortex> ubuntu wont let me eject the cd
[04:48] <ramavadakattu> all virtual hosts in ubuntu are pointing the default site.Any clue on what is going wrong?
[04:48] <vede> When PulseAudio asks for the "other" source or sink, what is it asking for?
[04:48] <vede> Should I put in that pair of hex codes?
[04:48] <binarycortex> is there any way to boot from an iso on an ntfs partition
[04:48] <prince_jammys> GuidMorrow: i don't know who this janitor is. i don't have one.
[04:48] <Scunizi> binarycortex: "unmount" it...
[04:48] <vede> That it displays in the manager?
[04:48] <prince_jammys> GuidMorrow: fire him.
[04:49] <hacked_kernel> binarycortex, sudo eject /dev/cdrom
[04:49] <LinuX2half> legend2440, I don't know what card you're referring to but here's all the data from my computer, http://paste.ubuntu.com/266444/
[04:49] <Wildbat> question is it possible to rename files in commandline like a* -> b* ?
[04:49] <prince_jammys> write out the full question.
[04:49] <alus> DMJC: user friendly? http://codepad.org/UqniYt7d
[04:50] <prince_jammys> lest we have to decipher "does he mean a literal asterisk?"
[04:50] <biggleswirth> anyone know why my ubuntu server connection would drop off the local netwrok, intermitently?
[04:50]  * dabj01 wrote a PHP script to use for Wildbat's task. But isn't at home and doesn't have access to it.
[04:50] <vede> Should I maybe just type in "my usb headset lol" when it asks for the "other" source or sink?
[04:50] <binarycortex> Scunizi: how would i unmount the cd if its being used as the hard drive
[04:50] <dabj01> prince_jammys: i'm sure he means the parts caught by the * get copied to the new name
[04:50] <dsnyders> dbbolton, I think you have to look at the /etc/event.d tty* files to change things.
[04:50] <binarycortex> thanks hacked_kernel ill try that
[04:50] <Scunizi> binarycortex: why would you want to eject it if it's being used as the hard drive?
[04:51] <legend2440> LinuX2half: your video card is 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[04:51] <prince_jammys> dabj01: me too, but since he didn't have time to type that, i don't have time to answer.
[04:51] <binarycortex> so i can insert a blank cd
[04:51] <vede> ...
[04:51] <binarycortex> i booted the live ubuntu and need to burn a cd from the same drive
[04:51] <Scunizi> binarycortex: to what purpose?
[04:51] <turbo964> hi everyone can someone please help me...im not a computer genius and i need some help with ubuntu
[04:51] <binarycortex> to run windows check disk
[04:51] <dabj01> turbo964, ask your question, don't ask to ask
[04:52] <binarycortex> or does fsck know how to fix windows partitions
[04:52] <Scunizi> binarycortex: if you've booted the live cd and want to put in the windows cd to run checkdisk .. it won't work anyway..
[04:52] <dsnyders> turbo964, In an IRC chat, you don't ask if somebody can help, you just ask your question.  We all are here because we need help
[04:52] <binarycortex> no i need to burn a windows iso to cd so i can boot from it
[04:53] <dabj01> or want to help
[04:53] <turbo964> thanks...i have a hp dv9000 laptop with windows vista home premium currently installed...i would like to instal ubuntu and keep vista...so i can use ubuntu when i want to play games and vista all other times...how can i do this?
[04:53] <binarycortex> i am only in ubuntu to burn the cd
[04:53] <barqs> Hi, just a question guys. I have a main desktop using windows, with my printer, photoprinter, scanner, etc. connected, but I also have a laptop with Ubuntu 9.04 installed. Linux sees my windows network, and I can connect to the desktop perfectly, but how would I  be able to print from the laptop, if it's connected to the other computer?
[04:53] <GuidMorrow> I can't even record video with this thing
[04:53] <_kurt_> anyone have any idea how to chainload other mbr's from grub2 by any chance?
[04:53] <LinuX2half> legend2440, well I'm sure its installed and working
[04:53] <GuidMorrow> for some reason it throws exceptions, and then it tells me I don't have enough disk space
[04:54] <biggleswirth> when I boot up ubuntu, I can ssh into my account from another machine, but eventually, the connection drops and I have to reinitialize the ethernet interface. Anyone had similar problems?
[04:54] <kahen> barqs: linux needs to have drivers to be able to output in a format the printer connected to the windows computer can understand
[04:54] <GuidMorrow> last time I checked it said I had 155.2G space left
[04:54] <dsnyders> turbo964, There are two ways of doing this.  You could download the ubuntu cd, which runs on its own, or you could set up your machine to dual boot between vista and linux
[04:54] <legend2440> LinuX2half: is there a problem with it?
[04:54] <brian__> i need some help  for some reason when i hit alt-f2 the launcher doesnt start
[04:54] <Scunizi> binarycortex: that's a cunumdrum (sp?). you need the ubuntu cd in the drive to be able to burn but you need a blank in the drive to write to.. sounds like a second cd drive is in order unless someone else has a different solution
[04:54] <prince_jammys> GuidMorrow: my opinion of it wasn't too stellar, either, after very brief exposure.
[04:55] <kahen> barqs: have you set up samba so you can see the desktop on the local network?
[04:55] <vede> Okay... what do I do if I want to change the active source and sink and such in PulseAudio?
[04:55] <binarycortex> Scunizi: its a laptop
[04:55] <_kurt_> or does anyone know a good way to do full disk encryption with booting multiple OSes that doesn't involve truecrypt?
[04:55] <Scunizi> binarycortex: that doesn't change anything.
[04:55] <LinuX2half> legend2440, no, not exactly but whenever I watch a movie online fullscreen, it froze slightly on every frame.
[04:55] <prince_jammys> GuidMorrow: perhaps it has its own irc channel. it's not supported here.
[04:55] <dsnyders> turbo964, You could also look at a program called wubi
[04:55] <turbo964> dsnyders, so if  i download the cd will i not need to instal ubuntu? will i just burn it to a cd and run it from there?
[04:55] <binarycortex> Scunizi: is there a way to boot the live cd, and use a custom command to tell it to boot from an iso on the harddrive
[04:55] <turbo964> what does wubi do?
[04:56] <Scunizi> binarycortex: why do you need to run checkdisk?
[04:56] <LinuX2half> legend2440, I've heard that the flash player isn't very good so it had created such glitch
[04:56] <bastid_raZor> Scunizi: binarycortex possibly make a usb install then the drive will be available.
[04:56] <binarycortex> bluescreen on boot, inaccessable boot volume
[04:56] <binarycortex> no usb drive
[04:56] <barqs> kahen: linux seems to have setup Samba by itself, so I just go to places>network>windows network and connect from there. But when I try and add a network printer, it doesn't work for some reason
[04:56] <barqs> kahen: Would you know how to fix this?
[04:56] <kahen> barqs: system > administration > printing doesn't find it?
[04:57] <dsnyders> turbo964, yes, you boot to the CD and run ubuntu from there.  You will be somewhat limited in what you can do.
[04:57] <SJr> hmmm
[04:57] <brian__> how do i get alt-f2 to open the launcher again
[04:58] <Guest12250> i have installed xp and ubuntu 9 on my laptop so how can i get files which are on xp desktop from ubuntu
[04:58] <barqs> kahen: let me go turn it on and try :)
[04:58] <dabj01> turbo964, if you live in college place, wa i'll come over and help you setup dual-boot right now
[04:58] <dsnyders> turbo964, wubi creates a version of ubuntu that runs as a windows app.
[04:58] <legend2440> LinuX2half: heres some info about that card. i use nvidia so not sure what may be wrong   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i810
[04:58] <binarycortex> is there anyway to run wubi from within the live cd?
[04:58] <Scunizi> binarycortex: if you have enough room on your drive you could install ubuntu as a dual boot and take care of it that way.
[04:59] <binarycortex> perhaps
[04:59] <turbo964> ok but will be able to play games ok? i have an nvidia 7150M graphics card and need for speed carbon and most other games dont work well and someone told me to use ubuntu for gaming. in this case will i be able to play games with ubuntu and change back to vista for everything else? and what happens with my files and settings currently on vista?
[04:59] <mrTr0ut> in 9.04 how can I automatically mount a partition to "/disk" when ubuntu starts up?
[04:59] <biggleswirth> I've asked 4 times already about my networking issues, I'd really appreciate it if someone could help me :)
[04:59] <binarycortex> but that would change the boot sector anyway
[04:59] <LinuX2half> legend2440, okay, I'll see what I can found
[04:59] <GuidMorrow> !!!INTRUDER ALERT!!!
[04:59] <Scunizi> binarycortex: however in my experience, with a bsod in windows.. you most likely will have to do a full reinstall to fix it anyway..
[05:00] <NewfierRich> hey all, I just got a program that monitors my system and it shows cpu0, cpu1 and cpu2... I am running a dual core... what is cpu 0?
[05:00] <binarycortex> i used to be windows tech support
[05:00] <binarycortex> this is fixable
[05:00] <prince_jammys> GuidMorrow: ha. you playin' berzerk?
[05:00] <prince_jammys> GuidMorrow: if you didn't get that, never mind. i must be old.
[05:00] <Scunizi> binarycortex: hahahaha.. but not without linux? Now that is funny!
[05:00] <mrTr0ut> NewfierRich cpu count starts at 0..if you have dualcore then you have cpu0 and cpu1
[05:01] <legend2440> LinuX2half: if you do edit your xorg.conf i would recommend backing up old one first
[05:01] <binarycortex> i can fix it without linux but not without a cd burned
[05:01] <dsnyders> prince_jammys, Perhaps he's watching the labour day Star Trek Marathon.
[05:01] <binarycortex> which i cant do without linux
[05:01] <binarycortex> :D
[05:01] <prince_jammys> dsnyders: see, I must be old.
[05:01] <dabj01> OMG star trek marathon
[05:01] <barqs> kahen: It does not find the printer
[05:02] <Scunizi> binarycortex: at least you have some humor about this.. :).. it's a tough situation.. you could create a usb boot of linux if you had usb and then make use of the cdrom
[05:02] <hacked_kernel> I got ubuntu jaunty on dell inpiron 1525, the sound was working fine but suddenly it stopped working "device: null output pulse audio", any help?
[05:02] <NewfierRich> mrtrout, then why does it show 3 cpu's this is weird
[05:02] <kahen> barqs: can you pastebin the output from "smbtree" then? http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:02] <binarycortex> i wish i could run wubi from here
[05:02] <Declination> hacked_kernel: did you perform any updates recently?
[05:03] <xCornEttO> Alguem ae do BRASIL????
[05:03] <hacked_kernel> Declination, apt-get upgrade
[05:03] <biggleswirth> periodically, ubuntu server connection drops on local network, any ideas?
[05:03] <xCornEttO> alguem ae q pelo menos saiba falar portugues?
[05:03] <Scunizi> binarycortex: you might be able to do a net boot of ubuntu and then have the cdrom available.. but that is beyond my experience.
[05:03] <dsnyders> binarycortex, There is a website called pen drive linux which walks you through creating linux bootable usb flash drives.
[05:03] <arquebus> !br
[05:03] <xCornEttO> obrigado
[05:03] <hacked_kernel> Declination, and i installed the conexant modem driver with dell modules
[05:03] <binarycortex> dsnyders: need a usb stick for that
[05:04] <Declination> hacked_kernel: i can't imagine that would have an effect on pulseaudio
[05:04] <binarycortex> or i need the /toram option on boot
[05:04] <dsnyders> binarycortex, Yes, you would.  What are you trying to accomplish
[05:04] <barqs> kahen: Sure, it's this url: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/266449/
[05:04] <binarycortex> but ubuntu doesnt have that
[05:04] <binarycortex> i need to burn a winpe boot disk
[05:04] <Declination> hacked_kernel: does ps ax | grep pulseaudio show something like /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start?
[05:05] <binarycortex> something on my ntfs drive is corrupted so it wont boot
[05:05] <dsnyders> binarycortex, do you have a floppy drive?
[05:05] <binarycortex> nope
[05:05] <hacked_kernel> Declination, none
[05:05] <binarycortex> well i might but no floppies
[05:05] <hacked_kernel> Declination, aplay -l : no sound cards found,    ls /dev/audio* : ls: cannot access /dev/audio*: No such file or directory
[05:05] <kahen> barqs: and you have turned on file and printer sharing on windows? i think it's in properties for your network connection somewhere
[05:05] <DJNomad> Hi all I am trying to get bitpim to work with my phone,I found a tutorial that says to install 2shared.I am wondering if this is not a good idea
[05:06] <DJNomad> http://polygon89.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/how-to-get-bitpim-to-detect-your-cellphone-in-ubuntu-linux/
[05:06] <DJNomad> theres the link to the tutorial
[05:06] <Declination> hacked_kernel: what does alsamixer give you?
[05:06] <dsnyders> binarycortex, Yikes, no boot possibilities other than CD and corrupted disk.  Right?
[05:06] <binarycortex> can i chroot to an iso?
[05:06] <binarycortex> yup
[05:06] <hacked_kernel> Declination, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[05:06] <kain_> hi all, anyone know how to fix my problem : i just switched from a 2:1 speaker to 5.1 speaker set, and with my old 2:1, the sound was perfect, now with my 5:1 speakers, i have to put the volumen to the max but still hear a little sound
[05:06] <binarycortex> would the instructions on customizing the ubuntu cd be of help here
[05:06] <LinuX2half> legend2440,well thanks for the help, I'll come back if I need help again.
[05:07] <dsnyders> binarycortex, any free space on the hard drive?
[05:07] <binarycortex> yes
[05:07] <GuidMorrow> someone pinged me in here
[05:07] <biggleswirth> periodically, ubuntu server connection drops on local network, any ideas?
[05:07] <legend2440> LinuX2half: ok
[05:07] <Declination> hacked_kernel: hmm... thats probably bad, my hunch is that kernel update may have goofed drivers for your soundcard, but you are past the limit of my knowledge
[05:07]  * GuidMorrow sets mode +C
[05:07] <barqs> kahen: Yeah, I have, it used to work when the laptop had windows, but for some reason it doesn't work when I have ubuntu on here. When I try to add a new network printer, I cannot get access to the desktop computer via the new printer menus. it says access denied. Not sure how I could get access?
[05:07] <hacked_kernel> Declination, well thank you for your help
[05:08] <dsnyders> binarycortex, you could install linux onto that as a dual boot
[05:08] <legend2440> hacked_kernel: try in terminal  lspci | grep -i audio
[05:08] <kahen> barqs: not really, no. perhaps #samba?
[05:08] <binarycortex> yea, that was suggested, my only question on that is if the boot sector is whats corrupted...
[05:08] <hacked_kernel> Declination, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[05:08] <barqs> kahen: Let me try that out
[05:09] <binarycortex> would it be possible to extract the contents of the cd to an ntfs partition and chroot into that to free up the hard drive
[05:09] <dsnyders> binarycortex, do you know if it is corrupted, or is that a guess?
[05:09] <brian__> any ideas why my alt-f2 bindings dont work anymore
[05:09] <biggleswirth> periodically, ubuntu server connection drops on local network, any ideas? One thing I notice is that as soon, or around the time this happens, output related to the "daemon log" is restarting...
[05:09] <binarycortex> 95% sure check disk will fix the issue
[05:09] <barqs> hm, seems to have worked, along with me using all lower case letters. I guess the full-upper case was a bad idea lol
[05:10] <barqs> kahen: Thank you! It worked. I used all lower case letters. Your help was much appreciated
[05:10] <binarycortex> i have no idea what part is bad, probably not the boot sector but you never know
[05:10] <binarycortex> it does start booting but something goes wrong during the boot
[05:11] <dsnyders> binarycortex, how far along in the boot process?
[05:11] <binarycortex> somewhere during the splash screen
[05:11] <binarycortex> loading the os files
[05:11] <binarycortex> im reasonably sure its not the boot sector but...
[05:12] <bastid_raZor> binarycortex: ##windows may be a better channel.
[05:12] <dsnyders> binarycortex, I'm sure you're well past the boot sector at that point.  Setting up a dual boot should work.
[05:12] <binarycortex> bastid_raZor:  i need help getting the live cd to burn a cd
[05:12] <binarycortex> i can fix windows after that
[05:13] <Scunizi> binarycortex: after creating a dual boot you might become a convert :)
[05:13] <bastid_raZor> binarycortex: that isn't possible from the liveCD.
[05:13] <binarycortex> Scunizi: i already am, but this is a work computer
[05:13] <binarycortex> bastid_raZor: i guessed that much
[05:13] <Scunizi> bastid_raZor: it would be if he had 2 cdrom burners..
[05:13] <bastid_raZor> binarycortex: your IT dept. will have a disk on monday.
[05:14] <bastid_raZor> Scunizi: yes i agree, but not with one.
[05:14] <Scunizi> binarycortex: good.. glad to hear you're not a "virgin" lixer
[05:14] <binarycortex> is it possible to create a hard drive file like wubi does, format it as ext3, mount it, extract the contents of the cd to it then chroot to it?
[05:14] <binarycortex> tuesday
[05:14] <binarycortex> monday is a holiday
[05:14] <binarycortex> besides on tuesday i can reimage it my self
[05:14] <bastid_raZor> binardi think the way wubi works is like a VM.. creates a file on the drive.
[05:15] <Guest12250> how to access files on xp desktop from ubuntu 9 both are installed on same laptop
[05:15] <kain_> i've read that it's called a soft volume problem, does anyone have a solution?
[05:15] <prince_jammys> !ntfs | Guest12250
[05:15] <bastid_raZor> Guest12250: mount the partition
[05:16] <dsnyders> binarycortex, I wouldn't know how to do that, although it may be possible.
[05:17] <credobyte> Guest12250: find XP's partition from fdisk & mount it.
[05:17] <miguelonnnn> hi! hehe
[05:17] <biggleswirth> periodically, ubuntu server connection drops on local network, any ideas? I have to bring down et1 the bring it back up again to restore the connection, but this is pretty inconvenient
[05:18] <miguelonnnn> new computer?
[05:18] <miguelonnnn> maybe nic is dying
[05:19] <dsnyders> biggleswirth, any clues in /var/log/messages?
[05:19] <owen1> I can't see some flash sites ( http://www.infoq.com/presentations/nitobi-phonegap  ).  i have adobe-flashplugin <IP_ADDRESS>-1, flashplugin-installer <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> and flashplugin-nonfree <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>.  any idea?
[05:19] <biggleswirth> dsnyders: checking...
[05:20] <miguelonnnn> duno owen, but are you sure its only your computer?
[05:21] <owen1> miguelonnnn: what do u mean? it ok on my other ubuntus machines?
[05:21] <biggleswirth> dsnyders: every 20 minutes, there is output as "--MARK--", 7 entries. only other output is system restart
[05:21] <gwildor> miguelonnnn, owen1 that site works for me.
[05:22] <owen1> gwildor: miguelonnnn works on my other machines.
[05:22] <biggleswirth> dsnyders: in /var/log/messages I mean
[05:22] <suave> öäå
[05:22] <dsnyders> biggleswirth, the --mark-- marks are there to let you know that the machine is still running (at least on the whole).
[05:22] <owen1> gwildor: miguelonnnn how do i trouble shoot this issue?
[05:22] <suave> eh!
[05:22] <suave> ops
[05:22] <BeWop> Hello, I'm having a problem with my wireless. I recently reinstalled ubuntu 9.04, and last install, it automatically installed the wireless driver. Now, I don't know if it's installed, but I can't get it active either way.
[05:23] <BeWop> Does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:23] <RHorse> BeWop you can test this
[05:23] <miguelonnnn> ok sry then i can't help anymore owen :(
[05:23] <miguelonnnn> well, can you tell me the url? i may try it on my xubuntu netbook
[05:23] <biggleswirth> dsnyders: ok, I think this started when I installed bind9 to try to set up local dns. I uninstalled bind9 earlier and restarted the system, but the connection drop still happened...
[05:24] <BeWop> RHorse: What am I testing?
[05:24] <owen1> miguelonnnn: http://www.infoq.com/presentations/nitobi-phonegaphttp://www.infoq.com/presentations/nitobi-phonegap
[05:24] <dsnyders> biggleswirth, when you say the connection drops, what do you mean?
[05:24] <dsnyders> biggleswirth, can you ping the server?>
[05:24] <RHorse> bewop drop to a terminal and pastebin your ifconfig and iwconfig results
[05:24] <owen1> miguelonnnn: http://www.infoq.com/presentations/nitobi-phonegap
[05:24] <miguelonnnn> ok brb
[05:24] <miguelonnnn> just w8 a minute
[05:24] <BeWop> RHorse ok, hold on
[05:25] <biggleswirth> dsnyders: i can't ping it from other machines on the network, though the ip address for the server still shows as reserved in the DHCP table of my router
[05:25] <owen1> miguelonnnn: i know it's only this laptop's issue.
[05:25] <BeWop> RHorse: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/266456/
[05:26] <biggleswirth> dsnyders: also, ifconfig on the server still shows the correct ip address on eth1, as leased from the router
[05:27] <RHorse> bewop do you know the essid of your router?
[05:27] <BeWop> RHorse: How can I find this?
[05:27] <dsnyders> biggleswirth, are you able to ping the router from the server?
[05:27] <miguelonnnn>  hi i'm back, it works perfect at mine
[05:28] <windy> Is there anyone who is using ubuntu9.10?
[05:28] <BeWop> RHorse: or can I just not get it?
[05:28] <miguelonnnn> must be your computer owen
[05:28] <BeWop> windy: I am
[05:28] <RHorse> bewop it should be with your router printed material. If not, you can type iwlist wlan0 scanning and look at the output.
[05:28] <alex_c> So, if I have an ATI Radeon X1200 (the kind that fglrx doesn't work for anymore) is there still any chance of getting working 3d acceleration?
[05:28] <alex_c> I'm using the radeonhd driver
[05:28] <biggleswirth> dsnyders: haven't tried that, I will have to wait for the issue to happen again in order to test that unfortunately
[05:28] <BeWop> RHorse: wlan0 isn't a command
[05:29] <owen1> miguelonnnn: i know, but how do i troubleshoot this?
[05:29] <RHorse> type iwlist wlan0 scanning
[05:29] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: try the radeon driver
[05:29] <biggleswirth> dsnyders: I am not sure what triggers the problem
[05:29] <windy> BeWop,I find that the empathy is not working properly,what about yours?
[05:29] <alex_c> @bastid_raZor radonhd works better
[05:29] <BeWop> windy: mine works fine
[05:30] <dsnyders> biggleswirth, unfortunately, I'm going to have to close down now.  My eyes are starting to close on their own.
[05:30] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: then you know you can get 3d working already.?
[05:30] <alex_c> bastid_raZor still, how do I make the 3D magic happen
[05:30] <windy> oh,THX
[05:30] <BeWop> RHorse: it says: "Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable"
[05:30] <biggleswirth> dsnyders: ok, no problem, you've given me some ideas. thanks for your help :)
[05:30] <alex_c> bastid_raZor how do I get GLI goin'
[05:30] <sharperguy> !botsnack
[05:30] <alex_c> or whatever
[05:31] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: are you trying to use compiz?
[05:31] <credobyte> sharperguy: lol, where did you find that ?
[05:31] <dsnyders> biggleswirth, You may wish to look at your /var/log/dmesg while you're poking around.
[05:31] <alex_c> bastid_raZor yes
[05:31] <RHorse> bewop try typing sudo iwconfig wlan0
[05:31] <biggleswirth> dsnyders: ok, will do, thanks
[05:31] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: which version of ubuntu?
[05:31] <dsnyders> g'night all!
[05:31] <alex_c> bastid_raZor Jaunty - when I've tried it, the screen whites out
[05:31] <RHorse> bewop now try the iwlist command again
[05:32] <kain_> anyone have a chance to help me with my sound problem, i was out for 5 min
[05:32] <alex_c> bastid_raZor I turned on compositing in my xorg config
[05:32] <Wildbat> arrr   , sorry but i forgot what do i do to install flashplasyer to Firefox....
[05:32] <BeWop> RHorse: That didn't work. If it helps, on my last install, it told me to install drivers to get the card working, but on this install, it didn't work. Same install CD.
[05:33] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: for me the radeonhd driver didn't work. i have the same card as you. using radeon driver compiz and 3d works
[05:33] <RHorse> bewop which card?
[05:33] <alex_c> bastid_raZor radeon didn't seem to detect my monitor settings - is there a way to fix that?
[05:33] <BeWop> RHorse: broadcom 802.11 b/g wlan
[05:34] <RHorse> bewop do you have an ethernet wire attached?
[05:34] <BeWop> RHorse: Yes
[05:35] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: settings as in resolution?
[05:35] <alex_c> bastid_raZor exactly
[05:35] <RHorse> BeWop try typing sudo iwconfig ath0
[05:36] <RHorse> then try iwlist ath0 scanning
[05:36] <BeWop> no such device
[05:36] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: you would have to add them to xorg.conf to force resolutions. but what resolution is it not allowing? is it on a laptop?
[05:36] <BeWop> RHorse: no such device and interface doesn't support scanning
[05:36] <RHorse> bewop, yes, it's prolly a driver issue
[05:37] <BeWop> I know,  but I don't know how to get that driver again
[05:37] <BeWop> RHorse: I know, but I don't know how to get that one back.
[05:37] <KF5CLL> #hamradio
[05:37] <alex_c> bastid_raZor yeah it's a laptop that's 13whatever by 768 - radeonhd picks it up no problem
[05:38] <RHorse> bewop restricted wireless driver? Not in the software repo gui thingy?
[05:38] <alex_c> bastid_raZor here's my lspci on it: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics] [1002:9612]
[05:38] <BeWop> RHorse: Possibly. How do I check that?
[05:39] <alex_c> bastid_raZor I just got this machine today, so I think the hd driver is what I want
[05:39] <RHorse> bewop it should be under the menu system somewhere
[05:39] <BeWop> RHorse Synaptic?
[05:39] <RHorse> yes.
[05:40] <RHorse> Or system - restricted drivers or something...
[05:40] <BeWop> RHorse Hardware Drivers?
[05:41] <BeWop> RHorse AH
[05:41] <BeWop> Found it
[05:41] <BeWop> Thanks a ton
[05:41] <RHorse> BeWop what is the model of that card?
[05:41] <BeWop> RHorse I found the screen that I saw earlier
[05:41] <BeWop> It's the driver
[05:41] <BeWop> RHorse This'll fix it, thanks a lot
[05:41] <RHorse> bewop HIW!
[05:42] <BeWop> RHorse Oh, and it's BCM43xx if you were woundering
[05:42] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: add a modeline to xorg.conf ..i'm guessing 1280x800 is the highest the radeon driver will see?
[05:42] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: yeah.. that isn't the X1200 card you said earlier..
[05:42] <BeWop> RHose, thanks and see ya
[05:43] <alex_c> bastid_raZor is there no way to do compiz with radeonhd?
[05:43] <alex_c> bastid_raZor I thought they were mostly the same
[05:43] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: that i don't know. i'm looking in the community docs now.
[05:44] <alex_c> bastid_raZor my hunch is that it is incompatible with fglrx because I installed it and it didn't work - then again I bought the machine today
[05:44] <alex_c> bastid_raZor it's an acer aspire 5517
[05:44] <RHorse> bewop google gives 960,000 results for BCM43xx ubuntu drivers lol
[05:45] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: i have the 5515 ..   look at this page.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver  it includes the HD driver on that page.
[05:47] <alex_c> bastid_raZor so I nominally have the X1200 but the hd driver says otherwise
[05:47] <alex_c> bastid_raZor should I just hack out my own xorg.conf, then?
[05:47] <alex_c> and use radeon
[05:48] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: lspci tells you that you do not have the X1200 card. even when i had the radeonhd driver isntall it didn't change what card was detected.
[05:49] <bastid_raZor> alex_c:  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]  is the card i have.
[05:49] <alex_c> hm
[05:49] <alex_c> bastid_raZor which driver are you using?
[05:49] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: radeon
[05:49] <alex_c> according to http://www.geekwithlaptop.com/acer-aspire-5517-notebook I have that as well
[05:50] <alex_c> maybe it's the HD driver misreading my chipset?
[05:50] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: from my understanding lspci doesn't care what driver you have but lookks at the hardware.. try sudo lshw   and see what that gives for your card.
[05:52] <x802> how to tell gnome to resize all 4 windows, so it fit nicely on my screen, as 4 regions?
[05:52] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: sudo lshw -C video
[05:53] <Big_Cat> Hello
[05:53] <filistine> i found a website that gives instructions for how to install Firefox 3.5, but when i open a terminal window and type the first instruction, i get "Permission denied" - how can i get around that?
[05:53] <alex_c> bastid_raZor yeah looks like I have the 3200 HD
[05:53] <Big_Cat> sudo
[05:53] <alex_c> weeeird
[05:53] <Wildbat> arrr   , sorry but i forgot what do i do to install flashplasyer to Firefox....
[05:53] <Scunizi> filistine: use sudo in front of the command
[05:53] <filistine> thx
[05:54] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: have you tried using system>administration>hardware drivers?
[05:54] <uman> good god Amarok is ugly
[05:55] <kahen> uman: amarok2?
[05:55] <uman> kahen: ye
[05:55] <uman> s
[05:55] <alex_c> bastid_raZor it offers me fglrx
[05:55] <filistine> nope, putting sudo in front still gives me "permission denied"
[05:55] <codeshah> hey guys, I want to see what user 'litespeed' is running under... since it seems ot have some trouble with writing to directories how do I do this?
[05:55] <alex_c> bastid_raZor last time I tried that, it was really ugly
[05:55] <Big_Cat> Hello
[05:55] <filistine> sudo echo ‘deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main’ >> /etc/apt/sources.list  .... "permission denied"
[05:55] <Big_Cat> use sudo
[05:55] <SnakDoc> whats the biggest difference between debian and ubuntu ?
[05:56] <uman> j #not-math
[05:56] <uman> oops
[05:56] <uman> kahen: ye
[05:56] <uman> oops, god damnit
[05:56] <FloodBot2> uman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <kahen> uman: tell me about it... i can't make kde4 apps look good in gnome at all. i just gave up and use Exaile or foobar2000 in wine instead
[05:56] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: when you try to enable compiz does it give you errors?
[05:56] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: with the radeonhd driver.
[05:56] <uman> kahen: I've vowed not to use wine. Every time I try to get it to work, there go two hours of my life
[05:57] <alex_c> bastid_raZor yes
[05:57] <filistine> can i use "sudo echo" together?
[05:57] <Flannel> filistine: What are you trying to do?
[05:58] <filistine> i'm trying to install firefox 3.5
[05:58] <Flannel> filistine: You likely want to use tee, but before I recommend that, I want to be sure
[05:58] <Flannel> filistine: Just install the firefox-3.5 package
[05:58] <filistine> there is no installer for 3.5
[05:58] <Flannel> filistine: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:58] <filistine> 9.04
[05:59] <Flannel> filistine: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[05:59] <filistine> ok
[05:59] <filistine> thats working thanks
[05:59] <xrfang> hello, could you please recommend a search tool similar to goolge desktop, but allow any computer in LAN to access the search page?
[06:00] <SnakDoc> whats the biggest difference between debian and ubuntu ?
[06:00] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: possibly ask in #compiz with your errors  .. i have to go. work comes early and i don't get holidays off.
[06:00] <thesimplecreator> snakdoc , debians more stable , ubuntus more up to date
[06:01] <Scunizi> SnakDoc: efghijklmnopqrst
[06:01] <alex_c> aight - thanks
[06:01] <Flannel> SnakDoc: Ubuntu releases every six months.  Ubuntu's design philosophy is it "just works" so most things will be configured how a standard user would want them out of the box instead of how upstream has the default configs
[06:01] <bastid_raZor> alex_c: you can also ask in here too.. put the errors you get out there.. someone may know.
[06:02] <gunk> Hola
[06:02] <gunk> Alguien sabe español aqui?
[06:02] <Flannel> !es | gunk
[06:02] <gunk> Necesito ayuda en UBUNTO
[06:02] <gunk> Y cómo entro a los canales en Español? Me ayudas?
[06:03] <Flannel> gunk: /join #ubuntu-es
[06:03] <Scunizi> gunk: /join #ubuntu-es
[06:03] <SnakDoc> ok thanks for all the help
[06:04] <gunk> Cuando Mozilla Firefox no abre y pone un Cartel con: Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.   Que debo hacer?
[06:04] <uman> gunk: killall -9 firefox-bin
[06:04] <mercutio22> anyone here using cairo-dock on an Eee PC?
[06:06] <paul_nm> spanish ubuntu server??
[06:08] <kahen> uman: it's not firefox-bin any more on jaunty. just firefox
[06:09] <uman> kahen: ah, thanks for the update
[06:10] <clearscreen> ps aux | grep firefox | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill -9
[06:10] <clearscreen> :P
[06:10] <codeshah> hey guys, I am having a permission problem - I have a directory owned by 'www-data' group, and my litespeed server is running as 'www-data' user and group, but it cannot see the directory at all
[06:10] <codeshah> I chmod 2770 that directory
[06:11] <DaZ> clearscreen: killall maybe? :f
[06:11] <kzdg> Hey all, I'm trying to overwrite my installation because it's borked for some reason. I have a / partition and a /home. I want to backup /home but don't see a way to do it from the live cd... can anyone help me?
[06:11] <clearscreen> DaZ: yeah I know heh
[06:11] <nsit> my package manager is showing "Unable to retrieve software information" how can i access my package manager now?
[06:11] <nsit> i m using fedora thoguh
[06:12] <clearscreen> #fedora ? :P
[06:12] <Scunizi> you must be wanting the fedora channel
[06:13] <nsit> clearscreen: #fedora is pretty idle!!
[06:14] <kzdg> How can I backup my /home using a livecd?
[06:14] <paul_nm> i cant change my resolution
[06:14] <paul_nm> ...
[06:14] <paul_nm> ubuntu 9.04
[06:14] <Shoe> how do I install iTunes when I have Ubuntu? And before any of you say anything, I've tried all the alternatives I'm willing to try, and they all suck
[06:14] <DaZ> kzdg: sure
[06:14] <mneptok> !wine > Shoe
[06:15] <credobyte> kzdg: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/backup
[06:15] <kahen> Shoe: wine + itunes doesn't seem to work that well. http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[06:15] <joewski_> join #ubuntu-au
[06:15] <Shoe> I tried just downloading the XP/vista version with wine, but it only gave me files that exist in XP, like C:/program files
[06:16] <propietario> hola
[06:17] <Shoe> so, the question still remains, how can I get iTunes on my computer. anyone?
[06:18] <clearscreen> Shoe: only viable method is to run it through a virtual machine running windows (that is, if you want to sync your music)..
[06:18] <wekt> Can one do the same advanced operations using the DVD as with the 'alternate' CD?
[06:18] <DaZ> Shoe: vbox
[06:18] <Shoe> whats vbox?
[06:18] <DaZ> virtualbox
[06:18] <kahen> Shoe:  are you using wine's own repository?
[06:18] <Shoe> I have no idea
[06:19] <Shoe> I dont even know what that means
[06:19] <kahen> Shoe: sudo echo "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt jaunty main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade # then try again.
[06:19] <Guest22716> hi
[06:19] <kahen> replace jaunty with whatever you're running
[06:19] <kzdg> credobyte" problem is I don't know how to reach the /home directory via cli or gui using the livecd... I only seem to be able ot get to the one for the live cd.
[06:19] <Guest22716> im  mohammed
[06:19] <Shoe> what? What am I running?
[06:19] <kahen> what version of ubuntu
[06:20] <Shoe> 9.04
[06:20] <Shoe> okay
[06:20] <kahen> yes, that's jaunty
[06:20] <Shoe> just put 9.04?
[06:20] <Shoe> so
[06:20] <Shoe> leave as is?
[06:20] <kahen> yes
[06:20] <kzdg> credobyte: problem is I don't know how to reach the /home directory via cli or gui using the livecd... I only seem to be able ot get to the one for the live cd.
[06:20] <Shoe> put everything up to the # symbol?
[06:20] <byerley> Is there a way to get open office spreadsheets to print without the "sheet 1" at the top?
[06:21] <kahen> yes
[06:21] <Shoe> sudo echo "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt jaunty main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade #
[06:21] <kahen> shoe... in a terminal...
[06:21] <Shoe> sudo echo "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/ main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade #
[06:21] <Shoe> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list: Permission denied
[06:21] <Shoe> I did, and copied the above with ctrl+c in a terminal, which you cant do
[06:22] <Shoe> so I ended up pasting what I copied earlier
[06:22] <kahen> Shoe: eh... then "sudo mkdir /etc/apt/sources.list.d" first
[06:22] <Shoe> chase@chase-desktop:~$ sudo mkdir /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[06:22] <Shoe> [sudo] password for chase:
[06:22] <Shoe> mkdir: cannot create directory `/etc/apt/sources.list.d': File exists
[06:22] <Shoe> chase@chase-desktop:~$
[06:22] <FloodBot2> Shoe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:23] <Tekk> how to I have gcc compile a C program into a plain executable(not a.out)
[06:23] <kahen> Tekk: man gcc tells you "gcc -o hello hello_world.c"
[06:23] <biovore> Tekk: need a -o option
[06:23] <credobyte> Tekk: gcc input.c -o output
[06:23] <Flannel> Shoe, kahen: echo "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt jaunty main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[06:23] <Tekk> thanks, I tried that but it had an issue.
[06:23] <Tekk> wanted to make sure I was right :P
[06:24] <credobyte> Tekk: what issues you had ?
[06:24] <Tekk> says the argument to -o is missing
[06:24] <fez> root@openwrt:~$ alias
[06:24] <fez> less='more'
[06:24] <Tekk> still does btw
[06:24] <credobyte> Tekk: it can't be missing .. "-o output"
[06:24] <Shoe> Flannel,
[06:25] <Shoe> what did you want me to put in the terminal there?
[06:25] <credobyte> Tekk: gcc version ?
[06:25] <nareshpunia> how do i use a partition manager in LUBUNTU
[06:25] <mactimes> Tekk: gcc -o hello hello.c -W -Wall --pedantic
[06:25] <Flannel> Shoe: echo "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt jaunty main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[06:25] <Tekk> 4.2.4
[06:25] <Shoe> the whole thing all at once?
[06:25] <legend2440> byerley: yes there is
[06:25] <Shoe> because that did absolutely nothing
[06:25] <Flannel> Shoe: yeah.  That'll add the wine repository to your sources
[06:25] <Flannel> Shoe: In linux, no news is good news
[06:25] <kahen> Shoe: btw, you can paste just fine into gnome-terminal. ctrl+shift+v pastes
[06:26] <nareshpunia> any partition manager in LUBUNTU
[06:26] <nareshpunia> ?
[06:26] <Shoe> it didn't say it did anything, it just gave me the option to type something else
[06:26] <byerley> legend2440: could you enlighten me please? :)
[06:26] <Flannel> nareshpunia: We don't handle Lubuntu, so I don't know what they use.  Try #lubuntu
[06:26] <nareshpunia> same lubuntu
[06:27] <kahen> Shoe: silence = success. that's expected behaviour for unixy commandline programs
[06:27] <Shoe> kahen, I've only done ctrl+ before, so I didn't know about ctrl+shift+, and have just been using rightclick+copypasta
[06:27] <Shoe> okay, now what?
[06:27] <kahen> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:27] <nareshpunia> flannel: Do I need to install a partition manager
[06:27] <kahen> shoe: that should get you the newest version of wine at pretty much all times
[06:28] <kpkudi> my install has stopped at "installing GRUB boot loader" can i do this manually
[06:28] <legend2440> byerley: open file >page preview then right click on page and choose Page Layout choose Header tab and unmark   Header on
[06:28] <Flannel> nareshpunia: If you don't want to modify your partitions, then no, you don't really need one.
[06:28] <byerley> legend2440: ah, thanks much
[06:29] <kahen> Shoe: then try running the itunes installer with wine again after the update. if that doesn't work... well... hope for a newer version of wine to work better with it. or use a virtual machine as someone else suggested
[06:29] <DaZ> itunes doesn't work anyway <:
[06:29] <legend2440> byerley: your welcome
[06:29] <Shoe> kahen, what's a virtual machine?
[06:30] <Tekk> the gcc -o hello hello.c..... thing worked
[06:30] <Tekk> gave me an error but if added the normal exe
[06:30] <Tekk> not exe >.<
[06:30] <Tekk> executable
[06:31] <kahen> !virtualbox | shoe
[06:32] <Shoe> what does it do?
[06:32] <Tekk> oh wait nevermind
[06:32] <Tekk> still not working
[06:32] <mactimes> Tekk: Define "still not working".
[06:32] <kahen> Shoe: if iTunes is that important to you, then Linux probably is not for you.
[06:32] <mactimes> Tekk: What are you doing?
[06:33] <cfedde> Shoe: a virtual machine allows you to run more than one OS on the computer at the same time.  Each in isolated containers.
[06:33] <Shoe> ah
[06:33] <Tekk> I'm just messing around in EMACS mostly
[06:33] <Tekk> I hit compile with the command gcc test.c -o
[06:34] <Shoe> kahen, linux is a god send except for that one nagging detail. Seriously, it's been nothing but awesome. except for when it come to ipods
[06:34] <Tekk> it gives me the error gcc: argument to '-o' is missing
[06:34] <losher> "thing worked" and "gave me an error" are pretty much mutually exclusive when it comes to compiling code ya' know...
[06:34] <mactimes> Tekk: Emacs is not gcc
[06:34] <Tekk> yeah
[06:34] <Tekk> as my compile command
[06:34] <mactimes> Tekk: man emacs
[06:34] <Tekk> I'm using gcc to compile this as the command in emacs
[06:34] <mactimes> Tekk: man gcc
[06:34] <kahen> Tekk: yes. why could that POSSIBLY be?! i mean... it's not like it expects something after "-o"... eh... wait... yes it does
[06:34] <Tekk> oh it does?
[06:34] <kahen> Tekk: seriously. read the error message.
[06:35] <Tekk> mhm
[06:35] <Tekk> after that I tried putting test.c after -o
[06:35] <Tekk> also gave an error
[06:35] <geirha> Tekk: Then you've ruined your .c file
[06:35] <kahen> geirha: nah. i think gcc is smart enough not to overwrite source files with compiled programs
[06:36] <losher> Tekk: trial and error is a really inefficient way of finding out how commands work
[06:36] <mactimes> Tekk: Man, I'm sorry if I'm rude, but STOP BEING STUPID.  People have told you several times what to do.   The resulting executable is ./test.c :)
[06:37] <losher> A slow learner with an attitude. No doubt he'll end up programming somewhere...
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> 'but i have plenty of paper on the shelf'
[06:38] <alinux> hi I did change my default keyboard language to arabic..and restarted..now I can not logon since the keyboard is typing in arabic so I can not type my username and pwd...I did try to boot into single user mode but the problem is I can not type in any commands since arabic letters are being displayed...GUI is GNOME
[06:38] <vede> *sigh*
[06:39] <vede> I need help with PulseAudio.
[06:39] <lordnikon> i cannot play dvd's in totem
[06:39] <Gnea> vede: what's the problem?
[06:39] <Gnea> lordnikon: can you play them in vlc?
[06:39] <lordnikon> "cannot read from source"
[06:39] <lordnikon> dont know
[06:39] <Gnea> try it and see
[06:40] <vede> I have a headset, an PulseAudio can hear it, but I can't get PulseAudio to change my headset to the default sink (I assume this is output) or default source.
[06:40] <vede> I tried setting the default sink/source to "other" but I'm not sure what I should put as its name.
[06:40] <Gnea> vede: are the headset phones on a different plug than the normal speakers?
[06:40] <vede> It's a USB headset.
[06:40] <Gnea> ah
[06:40] <Gnea> but they work okay otherwise?
[06:41] <vede> headphone+mic
[06:41] <vede> Yeah, they're functional.
[06:41] <vede> I can go to their settings, and PulseAudio can hear them fine.
[06:41] <Gnea> so you're just trying to redefine the sink name so it makes more sense in the config?
[06:42] <vede> No, I'm trying to make it so the headset is the sink and the source.
[06:42] <vede> So I can use Skype.
[06:42] <lordnikon> gnea: no i cant
[06:42] <vede> Preferably, I'd like to also know how to easily switch from standard speakers to headset.
[06:43] <Gnea> vede: check this out: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?s=8403c3c8c181e55e5c1cb27c694dcae3&showtopic=411431&st=40&start=40
[06:43] <Gnea> lordnikon: okay, then you probably need to upgrade the libdvdread library. do you have a /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh file?
[06:44] <mikubuntu> anybody running a dell inspiron 1501 by any chance?  looking all over google for how to get to boot sequence to no avail ...
[06:44] <Gnea> mikubuntu: F12?
[06:45] <mikubuntu> i get into some windows boot manager but it doesn't seem to have a boot sequence option ,,, just asks to select os
[06:45] <Gnea> mikubuntu: mmm, F12 should be done before the boot manager appears (like when the Dell screen is on)
[06:45] <lordnikon> gnea: yes
[06:45] <Gnea> lordnikon: okay, run that:  sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[06:46] <Gnea> lordnikon: after it does its thing, restart vlc or totem and try again
[06:46] <vede> Is it possible to not have to use PulseAudio?
[06:46] <mikubuntu> gnea, ok, trying something brb prolly
[06:46] <vede> It seems like unnecessary hassle to me...
[06:46] <Gnea> vede: you could stop pulseaudio and make sure to tell everything on the system to use alsa
[06:47] <lordnikon> gnea: still no dice
[06:47] <vede> I don't know how to do that, or what it means.
[06:47] <Gnea> lordnikon: with both? you made sure you explicitly closed both programs before trying either?
[06:47] <lordnikon> yes
[06:47] <Gnea> lordnikon: can you mount the dvds?
[06:47] <vede> Does PulseAudio rely on GNOME?
[06:47] <lordnikon> yes
[06:47] <vede> I'm using xfce...
[06:48] <Gnea> vede: no, it just needs a working alsa subsystem
[06:48] <vede> How can I tell if I have that?
[06:48] <Gnea> vede: cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:48] <Gnea> vede: if there's something there, you're using alsa
[06:48] <vede> Yeah, there's stuff there.
[06:48] <lordnikon> gnea: yes it mounts just fine
[06:49] <Gnea> vede: not sure if you understand how it works...   alsa is the main sound driver, and pulseaudio is just an application layer that goes between the sound device that alsa sets up and the other applications on the system
[06:49] <vede> I assume I'm just getting the name wrong when I try to specify to PulseAudio what to use instead of the default...
[06:49] <Gnea> lordnikon: and you can browse the files just fine?
[06:49] <lordnikon> gnea:yep
[06:49] <Gnea> vede: hmm, I think you can change that i pavucontrol - have you tried that?
[06:50] <vede> I can't use pavucontrol...
[06:50] <Gnea> lordnikon: very odd...
[06:50] <Gnea> vede: why not?
[06:50] <vede> ERROR:pavucontrol.cc:574:void StreamWidget::setVolume(const pa_cvolume&, bool): assertion failed: (v.channels == channelMap.channels)
[06:50] <vede> Aborted
[06:50] <lordnikon> gnea:  it says cannot read from source
[06:50] <Gnea> !pm | user_
[06:51] <vede> I don't even know what pavucontrol is...
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> !invo pavucontrol
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> !info pavucontrol
[06:51] <Gnea> vede: it's a GUI that allows you to control pulseaudio
[06:51] <vede> Hrm...
[06:51] <Gnea> you can change the different output sinks and such there
[06:51] <Gnea> just click on it and it does it
[06:52] <vede> I can do that with PulseAudio, too, though.
[06:52] <vede> But PulseAudio asks for a name.
[06:52] <vede> And I have no idea how to get the name.
[06:52] <Gnea> vede: is that  GUI?
[06:52] <vede> Yeah...
[06:52] <Gnea> then it's probably pavucontrol...
[06:52] <vede> PulseAudio Applet.
[06:52] <Gnea> ah
[06:52] <Gnea> not familiar with that one
[06:52] <vede> Ugh.
[06:53] <Gnea> vede: are you running Xubuntu, by chance?
[06:53] <vede> No.
[06:53] <Gnea> so just ubuntu with xfce then
[06:53] <vede> But I AM using xfce instead of GNOME.
[06:53] <vede> Yeah/
[06:53] <Gnea> ok cool
[06:53] <ayathehusker> hey this is a noobish question i know but, does the ubuntu install cd have a way to fix grub on it, gonna install win7 over my vista tomorrow and just wanna make sure i dont need to take any other steps. I thought i could just pop the cd in after installation to fix the MBR so i have grub again.
[06:53] <Gnea> vede: what's the output of the 'id' command?
[06:53] <Flannel> ayathehusker: Yeah,
[06:54] <ayathehusker> kk cool
[06:54] <Flannel> !grub | ayathehusker
[06:54] <vede> uid=1000(vede) gid=1000(vede) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),121(admin),122(sambashare),1000(vede)
[06:54] <Gnea> ayathehusker: yes
[06:54] <Flannel> ayathehusker: the first link walks you through it
[06:54] <lordnikon> gnea: where are the w32 docecs?\
[06:54] <ayathehusker> k cool
[06:54] <Gnea> vede: okay - the problem is that you aren't part of the pulseaudio groups
[06:54] <Darkebrz> Ah
[06:54] <Gnea> vede: are you familiar with vigr?
[06:54] <vede> No.
[06:54] <Darkebrz> I just installed Ubuntu, how would I get it so my sound is working?
[06:54] <ayathehusker> yah i have most of my hds partitioned for linux thus all my data is here, thanks for the quick help didnt wanna lose my jaunty (love it!)
[06:54] <vede> (I just installed Ubuntu yesterday.)
[06:54] <Gnea> !w32codecs | lordnikon
[06:55] <credobyte> !fat16
[06:55] <Gnea> vede: ah ok - it's a commandline application that allows you to edit your group settings manually
[06:55] <vede> So how can I put myself into the PulseAudio group?
[06:56] <Gnea> vede: it's a careful process, so you have to make sure you do it right, otherwise you could screw the system up - do you feel confident in following my instructions to the exact letter?
[06:56] <vede>  >.> Yes?
[06:56] <Gnea> vede: okay, in a terminal type this:  sudo vigr
[06:57] <Darkebrz> Could anyone help me with getting sound working?
[06:57] <vede> Alright.
[06:57] <vede> I have a list of things.
[06:57] <Gnea> vede: you can use the arrow keys to scroll through the file - there should be some places where you'll see your username
[06:57] <mikubuntu> gnea, fyi, we got booted
[06:57] <vede> Yep.
[06:57] <Gnea> mikubuntu: good
[06:57] <drunkncrew> can someone tell me how I can make AMAROK the default music player in gnome?
[06:58] <Gnea> vede: alright, if you scroll down, there should be 3 entries: pulse, pulse-access and pulse-rt
[06:58] <vede> Found them.
[06:59] <Gnea> vede: ok, if you are on the pulse line and press the 'end' key, it should jump to the end of the line
[06:59] <arcorion> drunkncrew System->Preferences->Preferred Apps
[06:59] <vede> Mmhmm.
[07:00] <arcorion> Multimedia and chose your multimedia player.  Doesn't seem to be just audio specific, though.
[07:00] <Gnea> vede: now, press the 'a' key to enter "insert/append mode" (this will allow you to make changes - this is the part where you need to be careful!) then type in your username (vede, I"m guessing)
[07:00] <vede> Uh...
[07:01] <vede> I'm guessing pressing enter after typing "vede" wasn't the right thing to do?
[07:01] <Gnea> vede: so it should look a bit like this:  pulse:x:123:vede
[07:01] <Gnea> vede: correct, backspace once should fix it
[07:01] <vede> pulse:x:114:vede
[07:01] <vede> pulse-access:x:115:
[07:01] <Gnea> alright
[07:01] <vede> But...
[07:02] <vede> There's three blank lines between them.
[07:02] <Gnea> vede: press ESC
[07:02] <vede> :/
[07:02] <drunkncrew> arcorian - thanks for the help
[07:02] <vede> Doesn't do anything.
[07:02] <arcorion> No prob.
[07:02] <Gnea> vede: move the cursor so it's on the first blank line
[07:02] <Gnea> vede: it does - trust me :)
[07:03] <vede> Alright, cursor on the first blank line, and I pressed ESC
[07:03] <Gnea> vede: okay, now press the 'd' key twice and ONLY twice. does that delete the blank line?
[07:03] <vede> No.
[07:03] <Gnea> vede: what does it do?
[07:03] <vede> Wait!
[07:03] <vede> It deleted one!
[07:03] <Gnea> good.
[07:03] <vede> I pressed D twice and one line went away.
[07:04] <Gnea> vede: make sure it's lowercase d
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> Vi basics day! :)?
[07:04] <Gnea> Dr_Willis: bingo ;)
[07:04] <vede> Okay...
[07:04] <vede> I know have pulse <blankline> pulse-access
[07:04] <vede> If I want to delete the blank line, the cursor should be ON it, correct?
[07:04] <numb3rs1x> I can't seem to get my wireless connection to work on this laptop. I can see my SSID and I've entered the WEP key with the KDE network manager, but when I try to switch to it with the kwifimanager, it won't let me switch to it. it's greyed out.
[07:04] <Gnea> vede: okay, now do 'd' 'd' again to delete the other blank line
[07:04] <Gnea> vede: correct.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> I found a console/cli editor that was a clone of theold dos editor  but cant recall its name. :)
[07:05] <kahen> woooah. installed pavucontrol to see how individual volume control per process works (it's pretty sweet actually). but... 100MB memory usage?! for a volume control?!!
[07:05] <vede> Whew, okay.
[07:05] <vede> Now it looks like it was originally.
[07:05] <Darkebrz> Where do I find the C:/ Drive while in Ubuntu?
[07:05] <vede> Should I add myself to pulse-access pulse-rt as well?
[07:05] <Gnea> vede: excellent! now, onto the pulse-access line - press the 'end' key to jump to the end again, and press 'a' to enter the input mode, type 'vede' and press ESC
[07:05] <maco> Darkebrz: its not called that in Ubuntu. its just /
[07:06] <maco> Darkebrz: also i think you mean C:\ not C:/
[07:06] <Darkebrz> Yeah :P
[07:06] <Madpilot> Darkebrz, do you mean a seperate Windows partition, or are you just looking for Ubuntu's main drive?
[07:06] <Darkebrz> Im looking for My Documents folder
[07:06] <vede> pulse:x:114:vede
[07:06] <vede> pulse-access:x:115:vede
[07:06] <vede> pulse-rt:x:116:vede
[07:07] <Madpilot> Darkebrz, look under the Places menu, top left of your Ubuntu desktop. One of the automounted partitions should be your Windows partition
[07:07] <Gnea> vede: very good. now, press ESC... then type  :w  and press enter
[07:07] <vede> Uh...
[07:07] <Gnea> vede: ?
[07:07] <vede> Okay.
[07:08] <Gnea> vede: :w  writes the file.
[07:08] <vede> I pressed ESC, did :w and then pressed enter.
[07:08] <vede> Everything seems fine.
[07:08] <hitman32> Hi guys
[07:08] <Gnea> vede: okay, now type  :q  and press enter
[07:08] <Gnea> vede: :q  quits
[07:08] <vede> Now I'm back at the terminal/
[07:09] <vede> .
[07:09] <Gnea> vede: now, type the following:  id vede  and enter
[07:09] <hitman32> I install ubuntu now.. and I need code in terminal to update my OS like jave and flash
[07:09] <vede> uid=1000(vede) gid=1000(vede) groups=1000(vede),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),114(pulse),115(pulse-access),116(pulse-rt),121(admin),122(sambashare)
[07:09] <Madpilot> Gnea, not sure what you're walking vede thru, but nano might be an easier choice of text editor for next time :)
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> I like 'mcedit'
[07:09] <legend2440> Gnea: sorry to interrupt but would   gksudo gedit /etc/group   work to edit that file?
[07:09] <hitman32> any one???!!!!
[07:10] <Gnea> Madpilot, legend2440: vigr is the secure way of doing it. any other method could easily jeapordize the system.
[07:10] <vede> hitman32: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:10] <Madpilot> Gnea, fair enough. I missed the first part, wasn't sure which config file you were getting him to do surgery on.
[07:10] <Darkebrz> Ugh, I just can't find me C:\ drive
[07:10] <hitman32> yes thankx
[07:11] <Madpilot> Darkebrz, it won't be called C
[07:11] <Explodus__> I'm having a problem with my wifi - It has been working fine with a 40bit WEP key RT2870 Wireless is the card. Now it cycles and after a minute or two it will prompt for the key again. I've tried all 4 keys and selected the appropriate slot. it doesn't appear to connect to any encrypted AP. I tried from command line to manually set info via iwconfig but the dhclient always times out (i've noticed i have to change the mode from auto to
[07:11] <Explodus__> ad-hoc to make the changes then change the mode to managed to connect otherwise the settings wont stick) Any ideas?
[07:11] <Gnea> Madpilot: no problem. he is having problems with pulseaudio so needed to make sure he's in the groups
[07:11] <Darkebrz> What will it be called?
[07:11] <Gnea> vede: now you just need to logout and login of XFCE
[07:11] <jaffa_> server abjects
[07:11] <Madpilot> Darkebrz, it should be one of the 'media' partitions in the middle section of the Places menu
[07:11] <vede> Darkebrz, are you after C:\ on a Windows partition, or your Ubuntu home directory?
[07:12] <numb3rs1x> can anyone help me get my wireless working?
[07:12] <Gnea> vede: er, to XFCE
[07:12] <Darkebrz> Probably C:\ On Windows
[07:12] <vede> Okay, logging out/in now.
[07:12] <Gnea> !wireless | numb3rs1x (please follow this guide - if you have any problems with it, please let us know what they are)
[07:12] <xkr47> Has anybody thought of testing ck's BFS scheduler on ubuntu ?
[07:13] <Madpilot> Darkebrz, separate partitions will for sure be under Places - what do you see when you open that Places menu?
[07:13] <Quiznos> where is consolefonts/ dir on ubuntu?
[07:13] <Gnea> Quiznos: type this:  locate consolefonts
[07:13] <Quiznos> where is kbd/consolefonts/ dir on ubuntu?
[07:14] <Quiznos> it's not my sys; helping guest
[07:14] <Gnea> Quiznos: tell your guest to type:  locate consolefonts
[07:14] <Quiznos> k
[07:14] <Darkebrz> Home Folder, Desktop, Music, Pictures, etc. Then Computer, a CD I have in and a 7.5 GB Media (no idea what this is). Then its just some network stuff and search
[07:15] <Madpilot> Darkebrz, the 7.5 GB Media is probably your windows partition
[07:15] <vede> Alright, um...
[07:15] <vede> There's something majorly wrong here.
[07:15] <Madpilot> Darkebrz, does that look like the right size for your Windows partition?
[07:15] <Gnea> vede: what's that?
[07:15] <Darkebrz> 7.5GB?
[07:15] <vede> I don't have top or bottom taskbars anymore.
[07:15] <Gnea> ?!
[07:15] <bazhang> !panels > vede
[07:15] <Darkebrz> It is definitely not my Windows partition
[07:15] <Gnea> bazhang: he's in XFCE
[07:16] <Darkebrz> Er
[07:16] <Darkebrz> Wait
[07:16] <Darkebrz> It has to be...
[07:16] <Darkebrz> But if it is, then it is REALLY lacking
[07:16] <Madpilot> Darkebrz, Ubuntu will auto-mount any partition it finds, so it should be your Windows part
[07:16] <Gnea> vede: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1769745
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> or a recovery partition.
[07:17] <Gnea> vede: alt-f2 should allow you to run firefox
[07:18] <vede> YAY
[07:18] <vede> I have taskbars again.
[07:18] <vede> (I can just click on the link...)
[07:18] <Darkebrz> Then where are all my folders? The only thing that lends itself to being my Windows partition are a few files
[07:18] <BeWop> Hello, I'm having issues with my wireless card. As it does say the driver was installed, and the card is online, it doesn't detect any wireless networks. Any known fixes to this?
[07:18] <server7> hello everyone, I'm having problem configuring sound on my ubuntu 9.04. I have sound playing movie and music, but when i log on the web ( you tube,ovguide..etc) there is no sound!!!can anyone please help me. Thanks
[07:18] <on0bi> f
[07:19] <Gnea> vede: cool. I have to go in a sec, is pavucontrol working?
[07:19] <maco> Darkebrz: whats the output of "sudo fdisk -l"? can you put it on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[07:19] <vede> ERROR:pavucontrol.cc:574:void StreamWidget::setVolume(const pa_cvolume&, bool): assertion failed: (v.channels == channelMap.channels)
[07:19] <vede> Aborted
[07:19] <kahen> speaking of pavucontrol - take a look at this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474743
[07:20] <kahen> pavucontrol is _seriously_ not ready for mass usage as far as i can tell
[07:20] <Darkebrz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/266488/
[07:20] <Gnea> vede: hmmm... check /etc/pulse/daemon.conf for default-sample-channels
[07:20] <Gnea> kahen: that's a redhat but, not an ubuntu bug
[07:21] <Madpilot> kahen, that'd be why it's still in Universe, I assume
[07:21] <numb3rs1x> ubottu: I've been through the manual. I've got my SSID configured and the correct WEP key in place.
[07:22] <vede> default-sample-channels=2
[07:22] <Gnea> vede: is that commented?
[07:22] <kahen> Gnea: i can confirm that bug is on ubuntu as well. just run pavucontrol and open up top while you play something. PA uses a ton more cpu
[07:22] <vede> I don't think so.
[07:22] <Darkebrz> maco: Does that help?
[07:22] <Gnea> kahen: has there been a bug filed for it?
[07:22] <vede> Wait, yes, it has a semi-colon in front of it.
[07:23] <Gnea> okay, then yes, it's commented out
[07:23] <vede> Everything is commented out except default-fragments=8 and default-fragment-size-msec=10
[07:23] <maco> Darkebrz: /dev/sda2 is your windows
[07:23] <Madpilot> Darkebrz, that's the only output from the command? Odd. That's only showing one big partition and what looks like a recovery partition
[07:24] <maco> Darkebrz: is ubuntu not installed? or is it a wubi install?
[07:24] <Darkebrz> Oh, its a wubi install
[07:24] <Gnea> vede: looks like someone else had the same problem a couple days ago, you should post a reply with your error as well: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7895300
[07:24] <Darkebrz> That may have been important?
[07:24] <qdb> hello. <qdb> grep '"http://[^(domain.com/)]' /var/log/apache2/domaincom.log | php ./urldecode.php<qdb> outputs ? in place of decoded letters<qdb> the php script is <?php echo(urldecode(file_get_contents('php://stdin')));?><qdb> thouh echo ("ә"); in same php script works
[07:24] <maco> Darkebrz: try "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt"
[07:25] <Madpilot> Darkebrz, wubi evidently does things differently from a regular install. never used it myself...
[07:25] <maco> Darkebrz: that should give you access to it in /mnt
[07:25] <Gnea> vede: you'll reach a broader audience that way and have a more likely chance of getting it fixed right.... hmmm, i changed my default-fragment-size-msec = 5  didn't have that problem but it solved another problem... try it and see if it changes anything
[07:25] <vede> Oh hey, I have that problem with volume control as well.
[07:25] <maco> Madpilot: it means theres not ext2/3/4 partition, just the ntfs one so the wubi lives inside sda2
[07:26] <Madpilot> maco, interesting.
[07:26] <Gnea> vede: also, ask in #pulseaudio - they're a little slow to respond sometimes, but they are EXTREMELY knowledgable with it
[07:26] <Darkebrz> I tried sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt once, and it didnt have any return, the second time
[07:26] <Darkebrz> fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[07:26] <Gnea> vede: I've worked with them before, they are like, the masters of the universe when it comes to all things for pulseaudio
[07:27] <RichiV> how do i make the geust account with no password? so that at login screen theres no password
[07:27] <KurtKraut> On my Jaunty install, no mather if numlock is on or off, numpad doesn't work. Except on gdm on typing passwords. Any clue how can I fix that
[07:27] <KurtKraut> ?
[07:27] <Gnea> RichiV: impossible, there must be a password. just set it to something easy, like 'guest' or 'password'
[07:28] <RichiV> Gnea: alright thanks
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> RichiV: you can enable autologin
[07:28] <kahen> Gnea: just gotta love how that bugzilla entry i linked was marked as "NOTABUG" despite pavucontrol causing PA to crash... yeah... that's not a bug alright.
[07:28] <PrakharPrasadd> FUCK
[07:28] <RichiV> ActionParsnip: I'd rather not dude cause id rather have it easy to login i geuss
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | PrakharPrasadd
[07:28] <Gnea> !language | PrakharPrasadd
[07:29] <Darkebrz> Ugh, Im so confused D:
[07:29] <vede> Heh.
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> RichiV: then make a new acount and have autologin use that, that will enable what you described
[07:29] <PrakharPrasadd> Ok
[07:29] <Darkebrz> Everything on my "Windows partition" suddenly disappeared
[07:29] <PrakharPrasadd> Sorry
[07:29] <maco> Darkebrz: whats the output of plain old "mount"? does it list /dev/sda2 as already mounted on /mnt?
[07:30] <maco> Darkebrz: if so you should be able to "ls /mnt" and see your windows disk
[07:30] <Gnea> PrakharPrasadd: please do not PM me. ask your question here.
[07:30] <RichiV> ActionParsnip: im sorry i worded it wrong... i want it easy for anyone to log in easy to geust... i geuss i will just put a postit making geust account pw -> password... thanks.. i wanted to just verify
[07:30] <Darkebrz> fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[07:30] <tone_red> What standard tool has ubuntu got that does the same as chkconfig on fedora type systems?
[07:30] <Darkebrz> Oops
[07:30] <Darkebrz> /dev/sda2 on /mnt type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[07:30] <Gnea> vede: alright, I'm out. good luck with that.
[07:30] <maco> Darkebrz: ok so its already mounted
[07:31] <Darkebrz> Well, ls /mnt sure looks like it
[07:31] <maco> Darkebrz: now if you "ls /mnt" you should see the same thing as youd see with "dir C:\" on windows
[07:31] <vede> Alright. Thanks for the help. Prolly the most help I've vever gotten on this channel.
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> RichiV: oh i see, makes sense. for security i'd use a different guest account name than "guest"
[07:31] <Darkebrz> maco: Yep
[07:31] <PrakharPrasadd> what are the FileSystems Fedora Supports
[07:31] <RichiV> ActionParsnip: Why is that?
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> RichiV: remember NOT to add it to the admin group
[07:31] <baltadt> got a question for you all about the launchpad COD
[07:31] <maco> PrakharPrasadd: ask in #fedora ?
[07:31] <RichiV> ActionParsnip: dont woory i made it long ago when i was actually good at ubuntu
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> PrakharPrasadd:  proberly the same as any other linux disrtos...
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> RichiV: "guest" is massively common and one of the first accounts to get attacked, if you use ssh you will have halved the attackers work by providing a known username
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> PrakharPrasadd: fedora is linux so it the same OS
[07:32] <baltadt>  got a question for you all about the launchpad COD
[07:32] <RichiV> ActionParsnip: Thanx for the tipoff, but i have nothing important really... only gov't documents which are higly classified.. ive said to much ;)
[07:32] <Madpilot> PrakharPrasadd, pretty sure Fedora has a channel on Freenode - try #fedora...
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> RichiV: tinfoil hat on nice an tight :D
[07:33] <baltadt> anyone know about the launchpad COD
[07:34] <bucky> tone_red, man update-rc.d
[07:34] <Madpilot> baltadt, might want to try #launchpad
[07:34] <baltadt> ty
[07:34] <tone_red> ta
[07:34] <Darkebrz> maco: Now how can I make it so I can look through that partition? I intended to add some files to Audacious
[07:35] <bucky> tone_red, or sudo apt-get install chkconfig
[07:35] <maco> Darkebrz: um you can copy some files into wubi or you can ...hrm i guess you could setup /etc/fstab to automatically mount /dev/sda2 in a certain spot and tell audacious how to find those files for its library every time you boot
[07:36] <Newbie__> i downloaded files from rapidshare, now i want to extract them. is there a way i can extract and combine the files in jaunty?
[07:36] <Darkebrz> maco: Do you know why this partition is so hidden?
[07:37] <maco> Darkebrz: its not...
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Newbie__: what sort of files? tar.gz, rar, zip
[07:37] <maco> Darkebrz: showed up in fdisk just fine
[07:37] <jasa> Hey, what is the program that did shorting of names inside a text file ?
[07:37] <Newbie__> .rar
[07:37] <Darkebrz> Hm
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Newbie__: sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Newbie__: then you can run: rar x <file>    or fileroller will allow you to do it in gui
[07:38]  * Arc_Orion hugs apt-get.
[07:38] <devon> anyone know how to fix sounds in programs run in wine?
[07:38] <olvap> hi. in find() how do write if i want a limit like this   limit 10,5?
[07:38] <jasa> Anyone knows the answer to my question ? It should be some simple command to just run ... but i don't remember on what would be the program now.
[07:38] <maco> Darkebrz: i dont know how windows hierarchy goes but i imagine music is something like /mnt/Users/Documents and Settings/<your name>/My Documents/My Music/ ?
[07:38] <PrakharPrasadd> MADAR CHOD
[07:39] <olvap> :limits 10,5?
[07:39] <Darkebrz> Yes, that is exactly it
[07:39] <Darkebrz> Thanks
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> jasa: how do you mean "shortening of names"?
[07:39] <PrakharPrasadd> MotherFucker
[07:39] <maco> Darkebrz: O_O i still remembered it?
[07:39] <maco> !language | PrakharPrasadd
[07:39] <jasa> ActionParsnip, like i have text file with first line of "b" and then the second line is "a" so how i make them in order.
[07:39] <Darkebrz> I think you did
[07:39] <Arc_Orion> You mean you want to alphabetize the lines?
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> jasa: oh you want the fiile alphabetically sorted.
[07:40] <jasa> Yes
[07:40] <maco> PrakharPrasadd: you've been warned two or three times now
[07:40] <Newbie__> i have installed but dnt knw how to go about it
[07:40] <Madpilot> PrakharPrasadd, no more warnings. Swear again and you're out of here for 48hrs. Clear?
[07:40] <drygrain> hey guys, i have a question... how do i make Firestarter start as soon as i log in?
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> jasa: sort
[07:41] <drygrain> isnt there a file i edit
[07:41] <PrakharPrasadd> Very Very Sorry Very Very Sorry
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> drygrain: you dont need to, its a config gui for iptables, it doesnt have to run all the time
[07:41] <jasa> Yes seems so ... memory fault of user, tried actually short. -.-
[07:41] <drygrain> no its a firewall
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> jasa: sort -r    reverses the order
[07:41] <|pisecx|> Hi. Can you, please, give me a link for documentation "How to connect ubuntu to windows active directory" ?
 i have done the sudo part but dont know how to go about extracting
[07:41] <PrakharPrasadd> STFU
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> drygrain: no, its the config too only
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> Newbie__: rar x <file>
[07:41] <legend2440> Newbie__: right click the rar file and choose Extract Here
[07:42] <drygrain> well i want it to run at startup
[07:42] <drygrain> in the system tray
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> drygrain: ok thats fine, jst so you know
[07:42] <drygrain> what do i do?
[07:42] <devon> i guess no one knows the answer
[07:42] <drygrain> it seems to me that its managing an active firewall right now
[07:42] <Newbie__> ok
[07:42] <streblo> if i write some of my own binaries, where in the filesystem should i put them?
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> drygrain: add a new startup item that launches it, if it won't tray then install alltray then change your startup item to read   alltray firestarter
[07:43] <maco> streblo: /usr/local/bin? i usually add $HOME/local/bin to my $PATH and put them there
[07:43] <drygrain> how do i add a new startup item
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> streblo: /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[07:43] <streblo> thanks ActionParsnip and maco
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> drygrain: system -> prefs   or system -> admin
[07:43] <Madpilot> streblo, $HOME/bin works too - whatever you add to your $PATH, basically
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> streblo: if you run:  echo $PATH
[07:44] <Flannel> maco, streblo: ~/bin will be automatically added to your path if it exists
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> streblo: you can put it in any of those folders and it will be universally available, you can also add and remove from that list
[07:44] <maco> Flannel: COOL!
[07:44] <IsabellaIsaguirr> guys anyone experiencing fan speed problems with acer 5315 ? (overheating)
[07:45] <streblo> i knew that anything in my path would work. i guess what i was wondering what the preferred place to put them was.
[07:45]  * Growlithe is away: Buh-bye, be back soons!
[07:45] <Zachk18> got a firebird question...anybody here know or use firebird?
[07:45] <maco> Flannel: oh wait...but...boo...then that means id have a ~/lib and ~/share and blah blah....i like the ~/local/bin method better. more tidy.
[07:45] <Flannel> streblo: For your own personal use, ~/bin, for everyone on your computer, /usr/local/* is the realm you put stuff
[07:45] <streblo> ok, thanks Flannel
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: wow thats a blast from the past
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: is it still available?
[07:45] <Zachk18> what do you mean?
[07:45] <maco> drygrain: system -> preferences -> session
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: firebird as in the browser by mozilla?
[07:46] <maco> Zachk18: firebird is the old name for firefox, right?
[07:46] <maco> Zachk18: like version 0.5?
[07:46] <lowlycoder> is there anyway in ubuntu to upload *.mp3 files to an ipod touch?
[07:46] <Madpilot> ubottu, ipod | lowlycoder
[07:47] <SkyNetMaster> hi, is there a chanell for getting heltt building deb package?
[07:47] <Flannel> SkyNetMaster: You're probably looking for #ubuntu-motu
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: the latest version is dated 2003. I wouldnt bother with it and install firefox-3.0 or 3.5
[07:47] <lowlycoder> ubottu, rockbox
[07:47] <Zachk18> firebird is a dbms software
[07:48] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: Firebird is http://www.firebirdsql.org/  (the reason Firefox isn't called Firebird anymore)
[07:48] <maco> Zachk18: namespace collisions!
[07:48] <SkyNetMaster> Flannel, thank you I will try it :)
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: i see
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> looks like we upset him/her
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[07:49] <drygrain> :D\
[07:49] <drygrain> ok parsnip
[07:49] <drygrain> u say firestarter isnt a firewall, but rather a firewall config tool?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> drygrain:  you got it
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> drygrain: yes, you dont need to have it running all the time. The only thing you gain is you will see when it blocks an "attack"
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> drygrain: iptables was running from the first reboot after install
[07:50] <the_dark_warrio> How do I print only odd pages on evince, for example?
[07:50] <drygrain> so how do i protect my computer?
[07:51] <drygrain> oh i se
[07:51] <drygrain> e
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> drygrain: you have a great many services running to make your system run, they dont all have systray icons
[07:51] <Zachk18> ok...i'm back
[07:51] <drygrain> ah ok :)
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> drygrain: thats why i told you what i told you. there is method in my madness ;)
[07:51] <drygrain> well i like having control of them
[07:51] <gareim_> does anyone know how i can get two apps to have sound at the same time? right now, i have to close amarok before watching youtube videos
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Theres secure.. then theres paranoid. :)  Then theres making things worse by trying security gimmics...
[07:51] <Zachk18> so firebird...can't get it to work on ubuntu...any ideas?
[07:51] <Zachk18> apache2 and php5 i can get to work...but not firebird
[07:52] <streblo> i want to run something like wmii (http://wmii.suckless.org/) as my window manager, is there an easy way to do that?
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: let me see
[07:52] <streblo> Zachk18, more info?
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> !info firebird2-super-server
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> streblo:  install the window manager.. create a  proper  .desktop file to allow you to select it from GD session menu M.. and login using that session
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> !info firebird
[07:53] <dumont> i need help figuring out how to setup iptables to block all traffic to and from a certain IP, how do I do that? I looked at the ubuntu howto examle and its too confusing
[07:53] <Zachk18> well what kind of info do you want? firebird when loaded via terminal is "supposed" to automatically install and ask what kind of server youwant..
[07:53] <Madpilot> !find firebird
[07:53] <Madpilot> ActionParsnip, ^
[07:53] <streblo> Dr_Willis, can i set it to use wmii for all users?
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> !info firebird2.0-classic
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> streblo:  gdm allows users to select what window manager to use.
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> Madpilot: good skills duder
[07:53] <drygrain> dumont, try installing Firestarter :)
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> streblo:  so making a Whatever.desktop file for it in  /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> that dir is the easiest way
[07:53] <the_dark_warrio> found it
[07:54] <Madpilot> ActionParsnip, it's all about knowing how to poke the bot :)
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Madpilot: ive only been up an hour with no coffee yet :(
[07:54] <streblo> thanks Dr_Willis
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Madpilot: just wanna get my VMs all up and i'm there
[07:54] <dumont> drygrain, i'm doing this via command line only
[07:54] <streblo> !info wmii
[07:54] <gareim_> anyone?? no one has/had the same problem as me? its frustrating having to close one program before i get sound in another
[07:54] <awaad> I want a good programme to record my desktop as a video
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firebird2.0-classic
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> streblo:  many of the windos managers in the repos add a proper /usr/share/xsessions/*.desktop file.. some dont. sadly
[07:54] <Zachk18> but it doesn't...it will not show up in the system processes even when i run dpkg -configure to start auto
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> !info recordmydesktop | awaad
[07:54] <drygrain> dumont, sudo apt-get install firestarter
[07:55] <drygrain> ?
[07:55] <dumont> isn't firestarted a gui app?
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: is there an entry in /etc/init.d ?
[07:55] <streblo> Dr_Willis, does it work the same way for debian?
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> streblo:  yes.. and most linux disrtos
[07:55] <streblo> thanks again
[07:55] <drygrain> i think you can run it in console?
[07:55] <Zachk18> ah...what kind of entry?
[07:55] <billybigrigger> what is the name of the app that launches gnome's appearance properties?
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> gareim_:  see if it affexts all programs.. or just 'flash'  -  Flash can be a real... annoyance. it dosent play nicely at times.
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: sudo /etc/init.d/firebirdsql start   or something (try tab completing the firebird bit, see what you get)
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: you can always use bum to add the binary to the startup
[07:56] <dumont> drygrain, ok installed it now what?
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> !iptables | dumont
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> billybigrigger:  i ofte drag an icon from the menus to the panel/desktop then right click on it check its properties.. to see what its launching.
[07:57] <vede> Crap the AI in the games that come with Ubuntu is smart.
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> billybigrigger:  command: --> gnome-appearance-properties %F
[07:57] <billybigrigger> Dr_Willis, i don't have it in my menu
[07:57] <awaad> ubottu: I installed it, how can I open it now ?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firebird2.1
[07:57] <Zachk18> it couldn't find /etc/init.d/firebirdsql...
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> billybigrigger:  seems to be gnome-appearance-properties :)
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: you can get 2.1 instead of 2.0
[07:57] <Arc_Orion> dumont try - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Blocking Traffic
[07:57] <Zachk18> and i've been to that site...didn't get ANYWHERE
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: i see
[07:57] <awaad> ubottu: How can I open recordmydesktop ?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: the ppa is down
[07:58] <Zachk18> what is the ppa?
[07:58] <gareim_> Dr_Willis: thanks for the reply, but unfortunately, when vlc is playing a vid, and i open amarok, it says that HDA Intel something something doesnt work
[07:58] <Zachk18> ActionParsnip: so......
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> gareim_:  be sure all apps are set to use 'pulse' audio may help also.  some may default to alsa instead of pulse..
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> gareim_:  or try setting them all to use alsa..
[07:59] <awaad> Is there any gui program to record my desktop video in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[07:59] <Arc_Orion> Err... better link.
[07:59] <Arc_Orion> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Blocking%20Traffic
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: use: http://ppa-search.appspot.com/   to search for firebird, see what PPAs turn up
[07:59] <Zachk18> ok...
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> awaad:  some one just mentioned 'recordmydesktop' it has a gui front end.. check  your package manager
[07:59] <popey> awaad: have you installed it?
[07:59] <Zachk18> http://ppa-search.appspot.com/search?search_key_word=firebird
[08:00] <gareim_> Dr_Willis: I've already tried all Pulse like they said on the forums, and it didnt work. I'll try the Alsa one now, but do i choose Digital or Analog (theres two options for Alsa)
[08:00] <dumont> screw firestarter, i didn't want a firewall, with a possibility that it would block traffic to my server since i don't want to get intimitate with the program, I just wanted to simply add a rule to the iptables to block a certain IP
[08:00] <awaad> Dr_willis, popey: Yes I installed recordmydesktop but I don't know how to open it's gui I can't find it in the applications menu
[08:00] <legend2440> awaad: yes   gtk-recordmydesktop  is gui frontend for recordmydesktop
[08:00] <gareim_> Dr_Willis: I see another option now, which is just 'ALSA'. Do I choose that one?
[08:00] <Zachk18> dumont...firestarter is not a firewall...it's simply a firewall manager
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> gareim_:  twiddle with them  and see..  I havent had any sound issues in ages.
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: ok then use that link to browse through each ppa to see what packages they hold
[08:01] <gareim_> Dr_Willis: Ok, will do. I'll let you know in a bit
[08:02] <Zachk18> ah...what exactly am i looking for?
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: some of the links may have multiple PPAs which you will need to inspect, when you find a PPA you can add it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: firestarter wasnt it?
[08:02] <Zachk18> ah....yeah
[08:02] <popey> awaad: you can actually run recordmydesktop from the command line, its quite flexible that way... I wrote a couple of blog posts about it recently. see http://popey.com/blog/
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: so try find mentions of firebird in those PPAs
[08:03] <legend2440> awaad:   gtk-recordmydesktop  is gui frontend for recordmydesktop
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: for example, click the bhavi ppa (first result in the ppa search)
[08:04] <AnxiousNut> i have a problem, my pidgin im lost its sounds
[08:04] <Arc_Orion> Firestarter's a GUI interface anyway.
[08:04] <phix> AnxiousNut: that is good :)
[08:04] <Arc_Orion> dumont, did you check the wiki? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[08:04] <phix> AnxiousNut: the sound annoys me
[08:04] <legend2440> popey: wow very nice blog
[08:04] <popey> legend2440: thanks
[08:05] <rsv> i have recently bought a 500G USB harddisk for back up. i run a dual boot windows xp and linux. which format i should choose for formatting ntfs or vfat?
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: scroll down a little and you will see Personal Packagd archives. the dude has 5 in this case, you will need to click on those, read the contents then if its not there, chack the next one. Do the same for all the results of the ppa search
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> rsv: ntfs
[08:05] <AnxiousNut> phix: i use multiple workspaces i need it to notifies me + you can shut it down, in the tools menu last option
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> rsv: vfat is not robust enough
[08:07] <gareim_> Dr_Willis: Alsa Digital, Alsa Analog, and ALSA don't work. Amarok doesn't have sound when I've got VLC open with a vid
[08:07] <rsv> sp ntfs is the most robust partition format to choose for dual boot systems
[08:07] <rsv> so ntfs is the most robust partition format to choose for dual boot systems?
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> rsv: its the most robust that windows can handle
[08:07] <rsv> okay
[08:07] <Arc_Orion> rsv, how large are the combined partitions you're backing up?
[08:08] <rsv> should i partition my usb backup harddisk into 2?
[08:08] <Arc_Orion> You might just choose to image the partitions.
[08:08] <rsv> how can i do that?
[08:08] <Arc_Orion> Well first, how much data are you backing up?
[08:08] <rsv> i have a 160GB and a 100GB backup to be taken
[08:08] <Arc_Orion> I take it one's Windows and one's Linux?
[08:08] <rsv> yes
[08:09] <rsv> i dont have time deleting all the crap stuff i have. so i want to take all that i have
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> rsv: use gparted or disk manager in windows
[08:09] <Zachk18> ok....so how do i install one?
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: you add the ppa address to your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:10] <Zachk18> ok
[08:10] <rsv> i also have one 250GB seagate harddrive
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: add the deb and deb-src lines, import the key, then run: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install <whatever its called>
[08:10] <qdb> hello. how to make grep '"http://[^(domain.com/)]' /var/log/apache2/domaincom.log.1 >./1.txt to work?
[08:10] <rsv> i plan to use it first for backing up all the stuff
[08:11] <rsv> so i formatted it into ntfs entirely so that i can use entire usb harddisk
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> qdb:  theres online 'regular expression tester/builders' you can try out to see whats not working withit.
[08:12] <qdb> it works
[08:12] <qdb> Dr_Willis, just
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> it pays to ask the actual question. :)
[08:12] <qdb> do not output to file
[08:12] <qdb> if i remove > ./1.txt
[08:12] <qdb> it outputs
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> hmm..  try just > 1.txt ?
[08:13] <Arc_Orion> I'm used to using Norton Ghost or Acronis for imaging.  I'd recommend Clonezilla, but I've only ever used it once, rsv.
[08:13] <qdb> i tried
[08:13] <prince_jammys> qdb: you can't negate a regex that way.
[08:13] <prince_jammys> if it works, it works by accident
[08:13] <qdb> also echo ә >./1.txt do not work
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> !backup | rsv
[08:13] <bala> hi, could someone tell me where i would be able to find linux-image-2.6.28-15-generic (2.6.28-15.51) ? i am getting 49 through apt, but the debug symbols i downloaded from http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/ are for 51?
[08:14] <rsv> okay - what is the easiest way of backing up
[08:14] <filistine> For the life of me i cannot get Firefox 3.5 to install on ubuntu - everything i do fails
[08:14] <gareim_> Dr_Willis: I'm about to get some sleep, but before I go, can you tell me if the sound problem will be easily fixable, or will it require more advanced knowledge?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> rsv: i use a cron'd cp job, it just copies the data as is to a firewire drive
[08:15] <Polterge|st> :D
[08:15] <Polterge|st> my rhythmbox and totem are working perfectly now
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Polterge|st: wtg :D
[08:15] <Polterge|st> on the highest audio settings too
[08:15] <filistine> and how can i change my keyboard behavior so that the shift-numpad keys work like they do in Windows
[08:15] <Polterge|st> I made some config adjustments for pulse and now it is not stuttering at all
[08:16] <rsv> i cannot use cron - since i connect my usb harddisk once 15 or 30 days and take backup
[08:16] <Polterge|st> before rhythmbox would not play at all
[08:16] <Polterge|st> and I adjusted the /etc/pulse/daemon.conf file
[08:16] <Polterge|st> and set auto respawn in the /etc/pulse/client.conf    file
[08:16] <Polterge|st> and in /etc/asound.conf I tweaked it a little bit
[08:16] <Polterge|st> no problems with audio playback now
[08:16] <Polterge|st> at all
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> rsv: as long as the destination exists the backup will succeed
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Polterge|st: always nice to hear a happy ending
[08:17] <mehedi> my pointer sometimes moves automatically. what can i do??????
[08:18] <Polterge|st> yeah I mean they have been doing improvements to the audio stuff but realistically their settings will not be optimum for a 1.2 ghz 512 mb ram machine
[08:18] <dumont> this would be an OK rule correct? i want to block this IP completely, iptables -A INPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS> -j DROP
[08:18] <Polterge|st> with onboard intel audio
[08:18] <mehedi> my pointer frequently moves automatically. what can i do??????
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> gareim_:  hard to tell. You could always try the latest alpha release and see if its fixed in the next release
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: clean the underside of your mose and laser
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  :) i was just typing that.
[08:18] <Polterge|st> hehe
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: try the quick fix first
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> its amazing how  fine these new mice  can be in their viewing
[08:19] <gareim_> Dr_Willis: Ok, I'll wait till 9.10 is out and then I'll try it (but the problem has been following me since 8.10). Thanks for all the help! Night!
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> one dog hair, or so on in the wrong place...
[08:19] <suigeneris> !grub
[08:19] <rsv> okay guys thank you
[08:19] <rsv> i will catch you later
[08:19] <rsv> bye
[08:20] <mehedi> thankkkkkkkkkkks
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: score!
[08:20] <dumont> anything added to IPtables, starts working right away, or do I need to restart?
[08:20] <mehedi> its now ok
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: simple answers are usually the right ones
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: clean the surface its running on too
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: with something to actually clean it, not just a sleeve
[08:21] <qdb> how to redirect echo abc to file?
[08:21] <mehedi> ok
[08:21] <Arc_Orion> dumont, should work right away.
[08:21] <prince_jammys> qdb: if you want to match http:// but NOT http://domain.com, either use two greps or awk '/http:\/\// && !/http:\/\/domain.com' , or perl.
[08:21] <prince_jammys> [^(domain.com)] is the same as [^()acdimno.]
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> qdb: echo abc > ~/file.txt
[08:22] <dumont> thanks, btw why does it take like 4 seconds for iptables -L to display INPUT, and then 4 secs to display OUTPUT added entry?
[08:22] <prince_jammys> a single character that isn't any in the list
[08:22] <Arc_Orion> Make sure you save the config, as it says in the wiki.
[08:22] <qdb> do not work
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> qdb: if abc is a variable and you want its value use: echo $abc > ~/file.txt
[08:22] <qdb> it is string
[08:22] <qdb> 1.txt do not appear
[08:22] <prince_jammys> qdb: if you have permission to write files in the current dir, it works.
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> qdb: or try: echo "abc" > ~/file.txt
[08:23] <qdb> ok
[08:23] <prince_jammys> the look in your home dir.
[08:23] <Arc_Orion> dumont, to be honest, I dunno.  I just looked it up.
[08:23] <qdb> i have permission and wirh quotes also do not work
[08:24] <prince_jammys> qdb: what is the exact command?
[08:24] <legend2440> bala: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.28-15.51/+build/1198058
[08:24] <qdb> echo "abc" > ~/1.txt
[08:24] <CatEater> does anyone run ubuntu in a vm on a windows host? what do you use? i can't get anything to work so far
[08:24] <qdb> the command that i need is much more complicated
[08:24] <prince_jammys> qdb: if that "doesn't work", your system is broken.
[08:24] <qdb> hm
[08:25] <prince_jammys> or your shell is not bash, or i don't know what.
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> CatEater:  virtualbox works quite well.
[08:25] <prince_jammys> qdb: cat ~/1.txt
[08:26] <qdb> it works!
[08:26] <qdb> abc
[08:26] <prince_jammys> it better
[08:26] <qdb> but it is invisible in nautilus
[08:26] <prince_jammys> qdb: refresh it or something
[08:26] <qdb> ok
[08:27] <qdb> refreshed
[08:27] <prince_jammys> not there?
[08:27] <qdb> showed up
[08:27] <qdb> thank you
[08:27] <bala> legend2440: thank you very much!
[08:27] <prince_jammys> qdb: look at the other thing i said about your domain.com issue.
[08:27] <legend2440> bala: your welcome
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> Shell basics. :)
[08:27] <qdb> you said it should not work
[08:28] <qdb> it works
[08:28] <filistine> ok, i have firefox 3.5 installed and i can run it from the bin folder, but the icon always starts the old firefox, how can i change this so that "firefox" is associated with the new application?
[08:28] <prince_jammys> qdb: it really doesn;t.
[08:28] <qdb> i made it reading a regex manual
[08:28] <prince_jammys> qdb: it may look like it works.
[08:28] <prince_jammys> but it doesn't
[08:28] <qdb> i do not know it much
[08:28] <friendki> any one: i have a problem access the website with java
[08:28] <Madpilot> filistine, right-click on the icon, change the path
[08:28] <qdb> you or i can check in #regex ...
[08:28] <prince_jammys> qdb: [^..]  matches a SINGLE character that isn't in the list inside the [^ ]
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> filistine:  drag/drop the shiitko icon from the menus to the desktop.
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> !ff3.5
[08:29] <qdb> hm
[08:29] <prince_jammys> qdb: so you're getting results, but not necessarily the ones you want.
[08:29] <qdb> how to make what i want then
[08:29] <prince_jammys> qdb: if you want to match http:// but NOT http://domain.com, either use two greps or awk '/http:\/\// && !/http:\/\/domain.com' , or perl.
[08:30] <prince_jammys> qdb: you cannot negate 'domain.com' without using fancy perl regexes, or two traditional greps, or the awk command there, or something else
[08:30] <Darkebrz> Okay, when I'm using Windows, where can I find my Linux partition?
[08:30] <CatEater> what do ubuntu users run it on?
[08:30] <mehedi> in Pidgin i get the room list of yahoo but can not join, when i press join.
[08:31] <CatEater> i can't find anything that runs it that costs less than $500
[08:31] <mehedi> in Pidgin i get the room list of yahoo but can not join, when i press join.
[08:31] <CatEater> i have tried a few virtual machines that don't work
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Darkebrz: you can install fs-driver and access it, i'm not sure it allows write access but i know it gives read
[08:32] <Arc_Orion> CatEater, Dr_Willis mentioned VirtualBox.
[08:32] <saulus> !seen sebsebseb
[08:32] <mehedi> in Pidgin i get the room list of yahoo but can not join, when i press join.
[08:32] <qdb> thank you
[08:32] <CatEater> Arc_Orion: i can;'t get vbox to work though
[08:32] <CatEater> Arc_Orion: vbox does not show a display, ever
[08:32] <Zachk18> how do you change your name on here? the color i mean
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> CatEater: install it in your OS and tell it to mount the ISO as the cd drive, it will then boot from the ISO
[08:33] <mehedi> in Pidgin i get the room list of yahoo but can not join, when i press join.
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: what about a double click on the room name?
[08:34] <friendki> darkebrz: to access linux partition from windows try program ext2ifs
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> !ext2
[08:34] <filistine> Thanks guys, i got it working :)
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> !ext3
[08:34] <Zachk18> firebird....ah shit
[08:34] <Zachk18> oops...sorry
[08:34] <GuidMorrow> does mencoder have a command to record video from capture cards
[08:35] <GuidMorrow> !language > Zachk18
[08:35] <mehedi> in Pidgin i get the room list of yahoo but can not join, when i press join.
[08:35] <mehedi> in Pidgin i get the room list of yahoo but can not join, when i press join.double click does not work
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: tried a double click on the room name instead of using the button?
[08:36] <mehedi> ya. but does not work
[08:37] <friendki> it is possible to have multi update of java?
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> yahoo requires you to go to some web site, and enter some password/code normally befor it lets you join a room the first time
[08:38] <mehedi> in Pidgin i get the room list of yahoo but can not join, when i press join.double click does not work
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> i thought pidgin launched a browser the first time you tried to Join. to enter that password.. then joining works.
[08:38] <qdb> prince_jammys, thank you, it was not correct
[08:38] <mehedi> in Pidgin i get the room list of yahoo but can not join, when i press join.double click does not work
[08:39] <prince_jammys> qdb: welcome. negating part of a regex is unpleasant.
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> !repeat | mehedi
[08:39] <prince_jammys> qdb: perl regexes have a way of doing it, but the Basic Regex and Extended Regex used by grep don't.
[08:39] <mehedi> in Pidgin i get the room list of yahoo but can not join, when i press join.double click does not work
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: there are no new usrs on the channel so asking the same questions only achieves the channel scrolling. please stop
[08:40] <indus> hello all
[08:40] <uman> how do I log in as root?
[08:40] <Zachk18> sorry......i just am freakin mad over trying to get firebird to work and it wont
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> uman: you dont
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> mehedi:  pidgin  normally launches a browser the first time you tried to Join. to enter a  password.. then joining works. Try connectingto a yahoo chat via the browser.
[08:41] <Madpilot> ubottu, root | uman
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> uman: use sudo and gksudo to get admin priveledges
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> uman: it makes your system a billion times more secure
[08:41] <uman> ActionParsnip: I find it very difficult to believe that there is no way to set a root password in ubuntu
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> uman: there is but its not supported here
[08:41] <indus> there is but i cant tell you
[08:41] <Madpilot> uman, you can, but there's no need, and it's not supported...
[08:41] <Zachk18> there is a way to set a root password...
[08:41] <uman> who cares
[08:41] <dumont> uman: did u want to switch to root user? type: su root
[08:42] <dumont> switch user
[08:42] <indus> uman: google for it ,its pretty easy
[08:42] <uman> I didn't say I want to do it for any practical purpose
[08:42] <Zachk18> go to users/groups
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> err.  use 'sudo -s' to get a root shell.. NOT su root
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> uman: you can use: sudo -i
[08:42] <uman> I'm just curious
[08:42] <Zachk18> in administration
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: dont its not supported
[08:42] <Zachk18> do you want to login as root or something on your pc?\
[08:42] <Zachk18> because that is possible..it's in the setting
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> Direct logging into X via GDM as root - is also disabled via gdm settings.
[08:43] <hateball> Dr_Willis: I believe "sudo -i" is the prefered way to become root, if one would have to
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: so are a lot of other destructive things but we dont support those either
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> hateball:  -i  or -s depends on your needs.. i forget when i use one or the other.
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> hateball: they are equal if no command is entered after -s
[08:43] <hateball> ActionParsnip: Ah right :)
[08:44] <Zachk18> you go to system/adminstration/login window and you can change to login as root ability...how is that not supported if it's there?
[08:45] <Madpilot> Zachk18, just because it's there doesn't mean it's even remotely a good idea
[08:45] <Madpilot> s/there/possible
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: its not necessary or required and is a VERY bad idea so we dont support it here
[08:45] <indus> Zachk18: i agree with you
[08:45] <Zachk18> indus...you do?
[08:45] <indus> ya
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: its possible to rm -rf /lib but you dont advise that do you (DO NOT use that command)
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> so me 'formating my system and erasing eveyrthing by mistake'   "Is supported" because its doable?
[08:46] <|Steve|> Did you really tell someone that setting a root password is not supported?
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:46] <uman> ^
[08:46] <indus> Zachk18: its right there under users and groups, any average user will figure it out
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> !root
[08:46] <Zachk18> ok that's what i thought
[08:46] <WinterWeaver> I installed Kubuntu on top of Ubuntu, via synaptic. After playing, I prefer Ubuntu. How can I remove KDE again, since I cant untick the "task" in synaptic.
[08:46] <|Steve|> sudo passwd *gasp*
[08:46] <maco> !puregnome
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> its amazing how much one can accidently trash  a system by just running a file manager as root.
[08:46] <maco> WinterWeaver: ^
[08:46] <Zachk18> i mean i have to if i want firebird to work do i not? because any documentation that i have so far found states to download it in root
[08:47] <uman> |Steve|: stfu it's not supported!
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: also the devs of ubuntu whom arevery experienced engineers sat round and discussed this at length and decided it was a great idea to ave the account disabled.
[08:47] <WinterWeaver> thx maco
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> I think of it as a IQ test..if you know enough Linux to know that command.. then ya know enigh to know why its not a good idea
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> Zachk18:  that sounds like some bad guides to me.
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: +1
[08:47] <Zachk18> well for some things it's a good idea to have it
[08:47] <filistine> is it a bit odd that Ubuntu would take 8 minutes to duplicate a 16GB file?
[08:47] <indus> Dr_Willis: those who come from red hat lineage wont take well to that advice
[08:47] <maco> filistine: depends. command line or through a GUI?
[08:47] <uman> Dr_Willis: Do you really think knowing Linux commands is a measure of IQ?
[08:47] <Zachk18> filistine: no
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> Zachk18:  if compiling stuff from source.. really only the 'sudo make install' command needs root access
[08:47] <indus> anyways off topic
[08:48] <filistine> i used the GUI - copy and paste
[08:48] <Zachk18> yeah but it doesn't work for me
[08:48] <uman> Dr_Willis: BBBB?
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> uman:  yes. because you have to THINK about 'root has no password.. how to set it...' Thinking is key.
[08:48] <uman> oops
[08:48] <filistine> very Windowsesque
[08:48] <uman> Dr_Willis: Go impale yourself
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> 'think, learnm apply'
[08:48] <maco> uman: i think that was "if you have sufficient IQ and know what rm does...then its obvious why that command is bad"
[08:48] <Zachk18> i mean it can install and i know how to use the terminal but it comes back with errors.
[08:48] <|Steve|> Having a root password is not dangerous.
[08:48] <Zachk18> how is the chat red?
[08:48] <maco> uman: oh wait i thought ou were referring to the rm command before
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> Zachk18:  of course now everhting has gotten away from your actual problem
[08:48] <uman> Dr_Willis: So I have lower IQ than you because I've never had occasion to change my password, so I didn't remember the passwd command from the top of my head?
[08:49] <Madpilot> |Steve|, no, but it's also not needed, and it's not how Ubuntu is set up
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> uman:  from your attitude.. yes I think so.
[08:49] <maco> |Steve|: eh.....remote attackers know that the username is root so they only have to guess password. default way they have to guess user & password
[08:49] <indus> uman: nvm now, you got the hint
[08:49] <Zachk18> goodness people don't shoot eachother
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> maco: +1
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> maco: +10
[08:49] <|Steve|> maco: Generally, ssh should disallow root.  Noo.. youa re the one that got all huffy..
[08:50] <ActionParsnip1> Zachk18: no just advising people how to significantly reduce their security really grinds my gears
[08:50] <uman> Dr_Willis: I wonder if you have ever had sex in your life
[08:50] <uman> masturbation doesn't count
[08:50] <ActionParsnip1> indus: no, root will always be root
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> indus:  sudo has a great many features other then 'letting people get root access'
[08:50] <indus> ok mods please restore peace
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> uman:  yea. you are showing your IQ now.
[08:50] <indus> :)
[08:51] <indus> thank you
[08:51] <lexr> cal down people
[08:51] <prince_jammys> mm. i leave for a minute and the channel goes nuts.
[08:51] <indus> Dr_Willis: please leave it
[08:51] <lexr> *m
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> indus:  Ok :)
[08:51] <Madpilot> indus, you can give other uses sudo privs
[08:51] <maco> oh goodness, will you all SHUT IT?!
[08:51] <indus> :)
[08:51] <Madpilot> indus, users, not uses. gah.
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> indus:  which is better vi or emacs?
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:51] <indus> Dr_Willis: i prefer gedit :)
[08:51] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis, don't start that one up. :)
[08:51] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis: thats just as bad, nice move :D
[08:51] <prince_jammys> notepad!
[08:51] <Zachk18> uman shut up
[08:51] <lexr> i preffer nano
[08:52] <lexr> in cli
[08:52] <|Steve|> maco: So now people just have to get the user's username (probably some combination of letters in his name) and password and they have root rather than getting the user name, password and root password.
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> I recall finding a Clone of the old dos edit (text editor) command  for linux But cant recall its name. anyone seen it? was on some live cd for some disrto i tested once.
[08:52] <indus> i have a nerve missing in my brain which makes me difficult to type commands for vi
[08:52] <maco> |Steve|: user & password versus password
[08:52] <michael_> hello
[08:52] <|Steve|> maco: Once again, disable root ssh and that takes away that line of attack.
[08:52] <Chousuke> Dr_Willis: just use ed and experience the ingenuity of the '?' interface.
[08:53] <Zachk18> hey i'm sorry but having a root login is sometimes necessary because of file permissions
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> Chousuke:  i actually had to use ed quite a bit years ago.
[08:53] <|Steve|> PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config.
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis: one of my mates cowers when you mention edlin
[08:53] <Madpilot> Zachk18, I think that you do not understand sudo when you say stuff like that
[08:53] <Madpilot> Now, can we kindly move on?
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> I really like the 'fte' editor thats in the repos.. its often overlooked
[08:54] <Zachk18> yeah well shove it
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> sudo - really has a lot of features that get overlooked.
[08:54] <Chousuke> |Steve|: I think on most systems there exist some local exploit that you can use to gain root anyway if you have access to any account.
[08:54] <Zachk18> i know that sudo is quite good.
[08:54] <filistine> is there a free Java html server that can be used on Linux with MySQL instead of PHP?
[08:55] <|Steve|> Chousuke: Probably so, but that's not an argument against having a root password.
[08:55] <Chousuke> |Steve|: but the thing is, if you have the root password enabled for most users it's just an extra burden.
[08:55] <|-Gobi-|> I just love linux... I just learned how I can mount remote fs, and use my test webserver with notepad under wine...
[08:55] <|Steve|> I mean, I can always do sudo su -.
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> |-Gobi-|: its that flexible :)
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> sudo -s or sudo -i  please.. no need for 'sudo su'
[08:56] <prince_jammys> aka. sudo -i
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> |Steve|:  using notepad.exe to edit linux config files = can cause issues with the extra carrage return/line feeds
[08:56] <Chousuke> |Steve|: Most of the time if you get rooted it's not because someone guesses your password, anyway.
[08:56] <|Steve|> Ah, sure. -i.
[08:56] <|Steve|> Dr_Willis: Um, okay. I don't run windows, but good to know.
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis: The -s (shell) option runs the shell specified by the SHELL environment variable if it is set or the shell as specified in passwd(5). If a command is specified, it is passed to the shell for execution. Otherwise, an interactive shell is executed
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> |Steve|:  why in the world would you want to use notepad in wine? :)
[08:57] <|Steve|> Chousuke: Well, all they have to do is guess my user password if I'm in the sudoers file.
[08:57] <prince_jammys> |Steve|: perhaps part of the reason is that many new ubuntu users would right away start running as root.
[08:57] <|Steve|> Dr_Willis: I don't. What are you talking about?
[08:57] <Chousuke> |Steve|: well, yes, but your user password should be as strong as your root password.
[08:57] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis, wrong user. it's
[08:57] <prince_jammys> |Steve|: given that so many come from windows, where that's what they're used to.
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> Oh that was for |-Gobi-|  :)
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> heh
[08:57] <|Steve|> Chousuke: So again, not an argument for disabling root.
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> you leet haxors and your | in the nicks
[08:58] <|Steve|> prince_jammys: I don't see why they would.
[08:58] <codeshah> hey guys, how do I install pdo_mysql for PHP?
[08:58] <|Steve|> prince_jammys: But the account they created would be the one they use.
[08:58] <|-Gobi-|> Dr_Willis: I ment notepad++
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> |Steve|: if you have root disabled then they must guess a username which is a member of the admin group as well as the password, with root the username is already known
[08:58] <Chousuke> |Steve|: the main argument for disabling root is that is simplifies things and makes the system more flexible.
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> |-Gobi-|:  i find the native linux editors   best :)
[08:58] <maxb> *blink* "more flexible" !??!
[08:58] <prince_jammys> |Steve|: in any case, enabling it is easy.
[08:58] <|Steve|> More flexible, in what way?
[08:58] <Chousuke> |Steve|: using sudo allows greater control over who has access to what.
[08:59] <ActionParsnip1> codeshah: http://www.theatons.com/ubuntu-install-php5-mysql-apache2-ssl-pdo-pdo_mysql
[08:59] <|-Gobi-|> Dr_Willis: I am slave of my habbits and didn't want to transfer yet.. so much to learn aftrer I switched to totally to linux
[08:59] <|Steve|> prince_jammys: I agree it's easy. I was just surprised to hear that you told someone that it isn't supported.
[08:59] <prince_jammys> |Steve|: I didn't, but it's true.
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> 'define supported'  :)
[08:59] <Subdolus> Hello all. I have two wifi cards in my laptop. When I plug the second USB one in, it automatically associates with the same AP configured for the original card. If this isn't annoying enough, when I configure the second card using the command line (promisc mode for eg), the Network Manager takes it upon itself to reset the settings after a while. How can I stop Network Manager or whatever doing this? Just make it ignore a specific interface?
[08:59] <prince_jammys> |Steve|: as in "not recommended" here
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> support is such a vague term in so many ways
[08:59] <|Steve|> Not supported by ubuntu and not recommended in #ubuntu are two very different things.
[08:59] <Chousuke> the root user has access to everything, so there's no point in keeping the root account around if you're trying to make the permissions system more fine-grained.
[09:00] <Chousuke> |Steve|: not supported as in, if you do it, you're on your own.
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> as in the support people wont tell you to do it.. perhaps..
[09:00] <prince_jammys> |Steve|: not recommended. not supported in the sense that if people who come here start enabling root and causing mayhem (which they will), we don't want to deal with it.
[09:00] <zaggynl> meh, just disable remote root login
[09:01] <|Steve|> Enabling root hasn't caused me a single problem.
[09:01] <|Steve|> zaggynl: Yeah, that's what I said.
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> |Steve|: yet
[09:01] <Flannel> |-Gobi-|: Check out SCiTE instead (it's in the repos).  It's what Notepad++ uses for all the text stuff, so you should feel at home with it.
[09:01] <Chousuke> |Steve|: what has it gained you, though?
[09:01] <prince_jammys> |Steve|: so since it's easy to enable for those who know and want to, they already probably have the know-how not to cause mayhem.
[09:01] <zaggynl> either you're going to use sudo or so
[09:01] <|Steve|> ActionParsnip1: You forgot the *dun dun dun* after that.
[09:01] <Chousuke> |Steve|: a false sense of security?
[09:01] <zaggynl> if they find a user within the wheel group you're screwed anyway
[09:01] <maxb> "there's no point in keeping the root account around" <--- this is nonsensical, the concept of root is embedded into Linux right down to the kernel, you can't just rip it out
[09:01] <|Steve|> Chousuke: An ability to log into my computer when I couldn't log in as my user.
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> |Steve|: if you have it disabled your system is more secure
[09:01] <Chousuke> maxb: no.
[09:01] <maxb> Chousuke: yes.
[09:02] <Chousuke> maxb: the root account is pointless. all that matters in the superuser privileges.
[09:02] <|Steve|> ActionParsnip1: No one has demonstrated that.
[09:02] <|-Gobi-|> Flannel: ty for the tip, i'll give a try
[09:02] <Chousuke> maxb: and sudo provides a perfectly fine way of accessing that.
[09:02] <Flannel> |Steve|: This channel assumes you have the root account disabled, we provide support as if it's disabled because it means we don't have to ask silly questions with every single person who has a problem related to it.
[09:02] <maxb> Chousuke: sudo provides a perfectly fine way of accessing the root account, yes
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> |Steve|: the root account is common to all nix systems so all an attacker has to do is guess the password, if it is disabled, an attacker has to exactly guess a username as well as the password
[09:03] <Chousuke> maxb: superuser privileges don't equal the root account.
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> |Steve|: you have halved the work needed to be done
[09:03] <maxb> Chousuke: actually, they rather do
[09:03] <Chousuke> maxb: having a root account in this case means you can login as root.
[09:03] <|Steve|> ActionParsnip1: For the third time, disallow remote root login.
[09:03] <Flannel> However, everyone, the root vs sudo discussion is offtopic for this channel.  If you'd like to continue it, may I suggest a change in venue to #ubuntu-offtopic?  Thanks
[09:03] <Chousuke> maxb: not just that the uid 0 exists.
[09:03] <Subdolus> Nobody? How do I disable a certain device from being configured automatically by the Network Manager?
[09:03] <Chousuke> (because it always does :P)
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> |Steve|: also, many linux techies sat round and discussed this at length and decided it was a fantastic idea, but i'm sure you know better, right
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip1:  thats the way it always is!
[09:04] <ActionParsnip1> Flannel: thats gonna empty the channel ;)
[09:04] <|Steve|> ActionParsnip1: Appeal to authority works, but you have to actually name the authority.
[09:04] <Flannel> |Steve|: The Ubuntu Technical Board
[09:04] <|Steve|> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
[09:05] <Chousuke> I really don't understand why people are so enamored to the root account.
[09:05] <Flannel> Again, this is offtopic, please continue elsewhere.
[09:05] <Chousuke> sudo is better in every way
[09:05] <|Steve|> Chousuke: You've clearly never been in a situation where you couldn't log into your user account then.
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> Chousuke: because when idiots screw their systems through bad practises tey expect us to pick up the pieces
[09:05] <Subdolus> Need assistance damnit ><
[09:05] <Chousuke> the first thing I do on Debian machines is install sudo and lock root :/
[09:05] <NeXstaR> !pastebin
[09:05] <Subdolus> !nm
[09:05] <Chousuke> |Steve|: in those cases I an just boot into single-user mode.
[09:05] <Subdolus> !nm-applet
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> Subdolus: sup?
[09:06] <Subdolus> !networkmanager
[09:06] <Flannel> Take the sudo vs root discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:06] <Subdolus> woot.
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> Flannel: i'm done
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> Subdolus: wassup man?
[09:07] <Subdolus> I'm trying to make Network Manager ignore my second wifi card
[09:07] <RichiV> ActionParsnip1? what happened to ActionParsnip the original?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> Subdolus: why would it pay attention to it?
[09:07] <Subdolus> so I can play with it in the console and not have it remove my settings over and over
[09:07] <wizzo50> !list
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> RichiV: this is my work lappy, i use pidgin for sametime. I must still be logged on on my desktop
[09:08] <|Steve|> Is booting into single user mode possible without grub?
[09:08] <iwobbles> hey how come when I log into freenode Im using TCP-Unknown but on dalnet it uses IRCD protocols ? is the TCP-Unkown perhaps just IRCD without headers in the packets ?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> Subdolus: hmm you could tell it to disable the device then configure it in the interfaces file, th einterfaces file supercedes network manager
[09:09] <Flannel> |Steve|: Lilo can do it, I'm not familiar with yaboot