[18:44] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: I just booted it. Ubuntu logo splashed and then blank.
[18:44] <ioria> cristian_c,  /var/log contains folders and files ....
[18:45] <ioria> cristian_c, maybe paste it,  if you want
[18:45] <cristian_c> ioria: ok
[18:46] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: Nope. I rebooted it and it looks the same
[18:46] <Rubiksmomo_> ioria: OK, Ryzom seems to run relatively smoothly as usual. Thank you so much! Wasn't that hard afterall, but all those conflicting advices in the web got me really confused.
[18:47] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: ok, well to do anything else you will need a live CD or USB.
[18:47] <Platypus2k> I installed Ubuntu 15.10 desktop on a laptop, but can not get drivers to work. Additional Drivers find my Broadcom BCM43142 chip and says it is using it, but that the device is not working. I have updated upraded and rebooted with wired net.
[18:47] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, happy for you.  you're welcome
[18:47] <aotea> So, I kept booting to a black screen, finally managed to find how to get into Grub and found I had the options to either boot into Ubuntu Linux 4.2.0-22-generic or 4.2.0-16-generic, apparently the latter one works, what gives? And why do I have these two options?
[18:47] <Rubiksmomo_> =) \o/
[18:47] <debug0x1> Platypus2k: I would recommend downgrading to 14.04
[18:48] <debug0x1> or using a live disc to confirm working drivers.
[18:48] <veronicab> quit
[18:48] <nicomachus> aotea: those are two different kernels. sometimes a newer kernel doesn't agree with hardware.
[18:48] <debug0x1> veronicab: forgot the "/" ?
[18:48] <veronicab> ?
[18:49] <Platypus2k> dvd rom is jammed on it. and no USB drives handy. can I get 14.04 from the net?
[18:49] <veronicab> quit /
[18:49] <nicomachus> Platypus2k: you will need a USB or DVD to install it
[18:49] <veronicab> well
[18:49] <nicomachus> veronicab: /quit
[18:49] <veronicab> ah, thanks
[18:50] <Platypus2k> ok, thanks for the info
[18:50] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: okay. I'll find a live DVD some how.
[18:50] <debug0x1> heh
[18:50] <nicomachus> Platypus2k: but you may not need to. what's the driver issue?
[18:50] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: Thanks a lot for your help, man!
[18:51] <nicomachus> Platypus2k: is this a wifi driver?
[18:51] <Platypus2k> yes
[18:51] <aotea> nicomachus: how can I see whether I just added the 'newer' kernel, I guess I need to set the older kernel then as default boot in Grub?
[18:51] <nicomachus> aotea: yes, or you can try booting the newer kernel with nomodeset
[18:51] <nicomachus> !nomodeset | aotea
[18:52] <nicomachus> Platypus2k: can you paste the output of 'sudo lshw -C network' to a pastebin and link here?
[18:52] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: BTW, all I want is the data on my hard drive to be safe. Is there anyway we can detach the hard disk apart and read the files using a hard disk BAY?
[18:53] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: yes, so long as you have another system that can read them.
[18:54] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: there appears to be a simple fix, but you just need a live USB/CD to boot into to do it.
[18:54] <Platypus2k> paste.ubuntu.com/14141858/
[18:55] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: I just borrowed a Linux mint live DVD from muh friend. But, it's taking longer time to boot than usual.
[18:55] <nicomachus> Platypus2k: ' sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source '
[18:56] <debug0x1> AndChat607476: You might want to try a live disc boot from USB.
[18:56] <nicomachus> debug0x1: it really doesn't matter all that much, as long as it'll boot.
[18:57] <AndChat607476> debug0x1: no use. It returns back to the Ubuntu logo.
[18:57] <debug0x1> What version?
[18:58] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: when you boot, hit "shift" or "esc" from the POST screen so you can tell your BIOS to boot from CD
[18:58] <Platypus2k> nicomachus: it worked, many thanks! :D
[18:58] <nicomachus> Platypus2k: \o/ yay
[18:59] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: hard press or press multiple times?
[19:00] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: I usually just keep hitting the key until it works... but the key may be different for your machine. I will (briefly) say. may take a try or two.
[19:00] <nicomachus> s/I will/it will/
[19:01] <Kamiccolo> anyone familiar with repackaging proprietary binary debs would like to comment on what's the common way of dealing with two issues:
[19:02] <Kamiccolo> 1) Default install target - /opt/* 2) Included ancient libraries of libudev, etc.?
[19:02] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: maaan! My laptop is 5 years old. I replaced my DVD case 6 months back.  I'll try USB boot.
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> AndChat607476  avoid the f word
[19:04] <AndChat607476> MonkeyDust: Cool. Will do.
[19:05] <aotea> nicomachus: it worked! Thanks a lot.
[19:05] <nicomachus> aotea: \o/
[19:08] <aotea> Not sure I did it all entirely correct seeing my resolutoin is now 800x600 and no longer 1920x1080, so guess something new to try figure out :p
[19:11] <nicomachus> aotea: what's your graphics setup?
[19:12] <aotea> nicomachus: nvidia gt 555m
[19:12] <nicomachus> aotea: and which driver? the nouveau or one of the proprietary options?
[19:13] <aotea> Think proprietary, not sure, how do I check? Installed them using pre-installed program on Kubuntu
[19:14] <nicomachus> aotea: system settings --> software & updates --> addtional drivers
[19:14] <akisam> can I get a controller to work on steam games with playonlinux
[19:14] <akisam> ?
[19:14] <nicomachus> akisam: yes. check with the folks in #playonlinux on how to get it set up properly, it can be tricky.
[19:15] <Geometer> what advantages that Ubuntu has over Windows?
[19:15] <genii> Freedom
[19:15] <nicomachus> Geometer: TONS. ask in #ubuntu-offtopic and they'll be happy to tell you.
[19:15] <akisam> nicomachus: thanks
[19:17] <aotea> nicomachus: "Nvidia binary drivers - version 352.63 from nvidia-352" so I guess no, not using the nouveau from X.org
[19:18] <polyvisual> Hi, apport-bug is logging a bug to launchpad for me. The bug gets logged OK, but 5 minutes later it gets closed as a useful symbolic stack trace can't be generated.
[19:18] <nicomachus> aotea: ok, you may try using the nouveau or the 346 if it's listed... that may resolve the issue.
[19:19] <polyvisual> The message suggests that two packages are missing debug symbols; libevdev2 & nvidia-352
[19:20] <polyvisual> how do I install the debug symbols for those two packages?
[19:22] <curlyears> greetings.   got my files backedup to USB, finally
[19:23] <curlyears> so can sdomeone tell me where the m,ail spool file lives?
[19:23] <Pici> curlyears: /var/spool/mail/
[19:23] <cristian_c> !paste
[19:24] <curlyears> w9qbj:  are you a ham?
[19:24] <cristian_c> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14142715/
[19:25] <curlyears> thanks, Pici
[19:26] <w9qbj> curlyears, yes
[19:27] <curlyears> dagnab it, where does Thunderbird store saved mail?
[19:30] <w9qbj> curlyears,  mail is stored in /home/your-user-name/.thunderird/some number.default/Mail
[19:31] <Bendr> Hello
[19:31] <w9qbj> curlyears,  I should have said  directorys under instad of "in"
[19:31] <curlyears> thanks, w9qbj.  in that case it is alread y bCKED UP.   *GRIN*
[19:32] <Bendr> is there a way to fix the problem of Arabic pdfs on Ubuntu?
[19:32] <w9qbj> ! google-hangout
[19:32] <nicomachus> Bendr: what is "the problem"?
[19:32] <Kamiccolo> Bendr, missing fonts? Not sure what problem are You reffering to.
[19:33] <w9qbj> Where can I find google-hangouts help
[19:33] <Bendr> yes, the letters are broken and everything is messy
[19:34] <nicomachus> Bendr: https://askubuntu.com/questions/131738/how-to-show-arabic-properly-in-pdf-files
[19:34] <Bendr> nicomachus, i found nothing useful there
[19:34] <Bendr> nicomachus, let me show what's going on
[19:36] <Bendr> nicomachus, can you see this http://imgur.com/4jvcwn6 ?
[19:36] <Kamiccolo> If You're creating PDF, why not just freaking embed those fonts?
[19:37] <nicomachus> Bendr: I dont't speak arabic, so have no idea what that should look like. However, it does look like a font issue.
[19:37] <Bendr> creating pdf? no
[19:37] <stephanedemotte>  /nicklist fifo
[19:37] <Kamiccolo> Is it created with MS Office or something? o_0
[19:37] <Bendr> nicomachus, but everyone would agree that the those letters are of no language
[19:38] <Kamiccolo> also, have You tried different viewers like... evince? Which Okular version is that, anyway?
[19:38] <Bendr> Kamiccolo, yes it might be
[19:38] <Bendr> Kamiccolo, all of them give the same output
[19:38] <aotea> nicomachus: ok, can't seem to get the resolution working with either of the drivers, the 346 weren't available but the 340 nvidia one was. Is there an important step I'm missing seeing currently I've only changed drivers and rebooted.
[19:39] <Bendr> Kamiccolo, latest Okular
[19:39] <nicomachus> aotea: you may just need to try to manually set resolution with xrandr
[19:40] <Kamiccolo> Bendr, one of the way  checking and fixing missing fonts issue: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10277418/the-pdf-viewer-evince-on-linux-can-not-display-some-math-symbols-correctly
[19:41] <Bendr> Kamiccolo, some fonts are required to open this file :/
[19:42] <RandomNoob> hello guys is this default theme for kyilin? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDA_f2y_WE4
[19:42] <RandomNoob> and can i install it on regular ubuntu ?
[19:43] <Bendr> Kamiccolo, anyway, if you can see that IT on the bottom it is ibus i was trying to create input-method switcher i used <Control>Shift but it doesn't seem to work, have you any idea?
[19:43] <sazawal_> I am having problems with connecting my bluetooth speakers to Ubuntu 14.10. It used to auto connect before when I switched it on. The manual says that it goes into pairing mode automatically, which it did, and it is paired with my computer. But I cannot enable it. Help!
[19:43] <OerHeks> RandomNoob, install ubuntukylin-wallpapers :-)
[19:44] <OerHeks> there are more packages ...
[19:44] <OerHeks> !find ubuntukylin-wallpapers
[19:44] <RandomNoob> OerHeks: i need all theme. found this link http://installion.co.uk/ubuntu/trusty/universe/u/ubuntukylin-theme/install/index.html i want the border colors and the look.
[19:45] <msev-> https://github.com/mrgilving/arduinoGPSNavigator/blob/master/images/capitanskiy84x48.bmp can someone analyze this picture and tell me what i need to set to get such a format out (how much bits it is and stuff) please
[19:45] <RandomNoob> !find ubuntukylin-theme
[19:45] <OerHeks> sure, you can..
[19:45] <nicomachus> aotea: what's the output of 'xrandr --current'?
[19:45] <msev-> in gimp that is
[19:45] <aotea> Though, if I get the correct resolution and no issues running with an older kernel, is it worth the work getting it working on the newer kernel? Why not just set grub to boot the older one by default?
[19:46] <OerHeks> 64x48.bmp ..
[19:46] <OerHeks> ow wait, 84x48 :-D
[19:47] <aotea> nicomachus: give me some moments, just installed the newest proprietary drivers and booted to older kernel just to see it still worked so I could watch anything later in good resolution :p
[19:47] <Guest93630> здарова
[19:47] <msev-> yeah but gimp allows only xcf
[19:47] <nicomachus> !ru | Guest93630
[19:47] <RandomNoob> Guest93630: privet
[19:47] <Guest93630> дайте телеграмм
[19:47] <Guest93630> двинеутся
[19:47] <msev-> so i dont know how to get bmp out of it
[19:47] <nicomachus> msev-: File --> Export As... and then select .bmp
[19:48] <msev-> holy shit i missed that
[19:48] <msev-> i'm stupid
[19:48] <nicomachus> language...
[19:49] <msev-> nicomachus, thanks
[19:49] <nullkuhl>  i have been trying to understand what this script does but failing , can any one help ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/14143394/
[19:49] <msev-> yeah sorry for faul language but I dunno how i missed that :D
[19:50] <speaker1234> hi, my t430 running 14.04 started not responding to gui inputs.  I can log in via ssh, or move the mouse but the gui is not responding to mouse clicks or keyboard input.  idears on where I hsould look?
[19:53] <sazawal_> I am having problems with connecting my bluetooth speakers to Ubuntu 14.10. It used to auto connect before when I switched it on. The manual says that it goes into pairing mode automatically, which it did, and it is paired with my computer. But I cannot enable it. Help!
[19:55] <aotea> nicomachus: results from xrandr http://termbin.com/3g4u
[19:55] <nicomachus> aotea: yea... that's not right at all. :)
[19:56] <mvx> hello
[19:57] <mvx> hello my friends
[19:57] <aotea> mvx: hi
[20:02] <nicomachus> aotea: let's see if it'll let us manually set... try ' xrandr --output LVDS0 --mode 1920x1080 --rate 60 '. Keep in mind LVDS0 may be different on yours, LVDS0 is assuming laptop screen.
[20:02] <nick-8998> How do you smart boot
[20:04] <nick-8998> How do you smart boot
[20:08] <aotea> nicomachus: can't seem to figure the name for my screen though, tried LVDS(zero) and (letter o), DVI-(zero) and default :(
[20:09] <aotea> default gave me "Cannot find mode" the other couldn't find the output and returned "ignoring"
[20:09] <nicomachus> aotea: there's something we're missing here, because it should listed by the xrandr --current command, but isn't.
[20:10] <nicomachus> aotea: for reference, here's mine: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14143584/
[20:14] <linuxmaru> good day all^
[20:14] <linuxmaru> :-D
[20:18] <curlyears> *wahhhh*
[20:19] <curlyears> I unplugged my 500GB drive, and installed 14.04.3 to my 3TB drive, no errors issued during install.  When I try to boot, it ives me some error about "improper ELF magic, and drops me into recovery mode.  What should I do?
[20:20] <curlyears> s/magic/magic"/
[20:20] <ioria> curlyears, are you 32 or 64 bit ?
[20:21] <curlyears> on a totally unrelated (and possibly off-topirc) issue, does anyone know what happened to EFnet?
[20:21] <rossi4life> ciao
[20:21] <rossi4life> !list
[20:21] <linuxmaru> okay
[20:23] <curlyears> does anyone know a good 3D CAD program for ubuntu that I can export .stl files from for my 3D printer?
[20:24] <curlyears> preferably one that is freeware
[20:25] <curlyears> 1804 users!!!!   that's a BIG channel!!!!!!!!!!
[20:25] <linuxmaru> yes!!
[20:25] <ioria> !info gmsh
[20:26] <curlyears> Other than this one, I don't think I've ever been in a channel with anywhere near this many user, and I have been IRCing since 1984.
[20:27] <curlyears> thanks, loria
[20:27] <ioria> !info freecad
[20:27] <curlyears> again, thanks
[20:28] <ioria> curlyears, you're welcome
[20:28] <curlyears> the mesh generator I also need
[20:28] <cristian_c> ioria: I've pasred the output, but I don't know exactly what I have to do
[20:28] <ioria> curlyears, for your first issue see this , maybe http://sanketrjain.com/error-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic/
[20:29] <ioria> cristian_c, can you paste it again , please  ?
[20:29] <cristian_c> yeah, sure
[20:29] <curlyears> Resource Limit Exceeded #1  )-:  thanks for the linnkk
[20:29] <curlyears> oh, it;s ioria, not loria.  sorry
[20:30] <curlyears> poor eyesight
[20:30] <ioria> curlyears, that's ok
[20:30] <cristian_c> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14142715/
[20:31] <curlyears> be back shortly, I hope
[20:32] <ioria> cristian_c, that's terrible ... where is dmesg ?
[20:32] <cristian_c> ioria: I said before, dmesg doesn't exist
[20:33] <ioria> cristian_c, and kern ?
[20:33] <ioria> cristian_c, no, ok
[20:33] <cristian_c> there is kern
[20:35]  * H3x1Nj3Ct :P
[20:36] <ioria> cristian_c,  ls -l /bin/dmesg
[20:37] <cristian_c> ok
[20:39] <cristian_c> ioria: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 52352 ago  5 03:25 /bin/dmesg
[20:40] <ioria> cristian_c,  and if you run   cat /var/log/dmesg | less     ?
[20:40] <Pici> 50
[20:42] <cristian_c> ioria: file or directory not found
[20:42] <ioria> cristian_c,  ps -A | grep rsyslog
[20:44] <cristian_c> ioria:  621 ?        00:00:00 rsyslogd
[20:45] <ioria> cristian_c,  have you done something weird , lately ?
[20:46] <cristian_c> ioria: yesterday, I saidnI installed fglrx drivers from additional drivers window
[20:46] <TJ-> ioria: with some releases and the journald changeover there was no /var/log/dmesg; I think 15.04 was the one I noticed with that. It's back with 15.10 though.
[20:46] <TJ-> cristian_c: "dmesg | pastebinit"
[20:47] <ioria> TJ-  his /var/log   http://paste.ubuntu.com/14142715/
[20:47] <cristian_c> ioria: then, during reboot, system crashed. After I restored radeon open drivers, dmes and syslog were missing yet
[20:47] <TJ-> ioria: right, I looked; it looks like a typical 15.04 system using systemd-journald
[20:47] <ioria> cristian_c,  lsb_release -a
[20:48] <ioria> cristian_c,  you can try sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[20:48] <ioria> TJ-   i didn't know that. tx
[20:49] <aotea> Is bumblebee no longer used and replaced with nvidia-prime for linux?
[20:49] <TJ-> ioria: yes, it caught me out a few times until I dug deeper
[20:49] <TJ-> aotea: correct
[20:49] <ioria> ^_°
[20:50] <cristian_c> ioria: as told many times yesterday, I've already purged fglrx
[20:50] <ioria> cristian_c,  how ? command line ?
[20:50] <cristian_c> TJ-: server connection not
[20:50] <ioria> cristian_c,  lsb_release -a
[20:51] <cristian_c> errno socket error timed out
[20:52] <guest2134> curious do all current phone have hardware that support the cdma and gsm based providers? Or are they still spliting phones that can uses only one provider
[20:52] <guest2134> not provider but cellphone technolgy gsm or cdma variants?
[20:53] <cristian_c> paste.ubuntu.com seems unreachable
[20:53] <TJ-> cristian_c: ahhh, yes, its been having a few issues lately
[20:54] <TJ-> cristian_c: typical it happens when we most want it
[20:54] <ioria> cristian_c,   lsb_release -a | grep Codename
[20:54] <cristian_c> ioria: http://pastebin.com/2FLYaRLd
[20:55] <j3rzu> hi all
[20:55] <wafflejock> hello j3rzu
[20:55] <cristian_c> TJ-: I can paste dmesg output in pastebin.com
[20:56] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1450588
[20:56] <cristian_c> mmmm
[20:56] <ioria> won't fix ?  right nearly EOL
[20:57] <ioria> cristian_c,   wily, wily ....
[20:57] <cristian_c> uhm
[20:57] <mJimmer> Hello  there I am making a lib that exposes Qt/Qml to zlib and was wondering if someone can be so kind as to look and see where it is (lz.so) is installed via i386
[20:58] <mJimmer> maybe /usr/lib/x86_386/   not sure how that works via Ubuntu
[20:58] <cristian_c> ioria: I understand
[20:58] <cristian_c> :)
[20:58] <mJimmer> I know that on my 64 bit machine it is /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
[20:59] <ioria> cristian_c,   oh, well... in any case you'll have to upgrade .... :þ
[21:00] <Pwnna> does anyone here know how to check which DNS server dnsmasq using for a query when you're over a VPN?
[21:00] <Pwnna> i'm fairly certain that I'm using the ISP's DNS, but I need to make sure.
[21:00] <TJ-> Pwnna: you can check if NetworkManager told dnsmasq new nameservers by looking in /var/log/syslog
[21:01] <Pwnna> TJ-: before and after i connect? I'll give it a shot
[21:01] <mJimmer> NVM looks like it goes to /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/
[21:01] <Pwnna> does anyone know how to force dnsmasq to only use the VPN DNS? I thought I did this via push dhcp-option dns on the server but evidently not?
[21:02] <wafflejock> mJimmer: you know what package contains the file? http://packages.ubuntu.com/  can check the file listings there if you can find the package that has it
[21:02] <TJ-> Pwnna: "grep 'dnsmasq.& using nameserver' /var/log/syslog "
[21:03] <TJ-> Pwnna: typo, * not &
[21:03] <Pwnna> TJ-: it looks like it is using both (https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8855113 -- 208 is pushed by VPN)
[21:03] <Pwnna> and the <IP_ADDRESS> is local
[21:03] <tgm4883> wafflejock: you can also check what packages contain a file on that site
[21:04] <Pwnna> TJ-: so if it using both... is there any way to show a particular query?
[21:04] <wafflejock> tgm4883: ah never scrolled down :) thanks for the tip
[21:04] <mJimmer> wafflejock:  thanks it is just so make can find libzlib maybe pckconfig would be even better to use not sure
[21:04] <TJ-> Pwnna: if NM is managing the connection I think there's an option to replace which can be set in the connection config, but I believe it has to be manually added to the text file with the config in.
[21:04] <Pwnna> TJ-: like the openvpn client conf  file?
[21:04] <Pwnna> man this has been a huge security lapse...
[21:04] <tgm4883> IIRC there is an openvpn option to force all traffic over the VPN
[21:05] <Pwnna> i thought so too
[21:05] <Pwnna> on my server config i have
[21:05] <Pwnna> push "redirect-gateway def1 bypass-dhcp"
[21:05] <Pwnna> push "dhcp-option DNS <IP_ADDRESS>"
[21:05] <Pwnna> push "dhcp-option DNS <IP_ADDRESS>"
[21:06] <TJ-> Pwnna: "man 5 NetworkManager.conf", see the 'dns' section, 'dnsmasq' sub-paragraph, and 'split-config' for VPNs; that should help figure it out
[21:06] <Pwnna> cool. thanks for the help. i'll give it a shot
[21:07] <TJ-> Pwnna: I think there's still some work to do figuring it out, but I've seen that scenario described on the NM-devel mailing list
[21:08] <Pwnna> the scenario where you only want to go over VPN?
[21:08] <Pwnna> TJ-: just to check if i understand this correctly.. "and then update resolv.conf to point to the local" < that means by default DNS goes to local?
[21:11] <TJ-> Pwnna: that means resolv.conf is configured to use the service provided by NM's private instance of dnsmasq - in orther words: "echo 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf " (which is symlinked to  "ln -s ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf"
[21:13] <ALFA> federica 14 anni
[21:13] <ALFA> i am italian girl
[21:13] <nicomachus> !ot | ALFA
[21:14] <ALFA> do you want me?
[21:15] <rww> no, this is an Ubuntu support channel, not OKCupid.
[21:17] <Jan\> you guys know trick to minimize system CPU usage ?
[21:18] <bekks> Jan\: No big deal. :)
[21:18] <Pwnna> lost connection for a minute..
[21:18] <Pwnna> TJ-: so that paragraph doesn't really say which DNS server dnsmasq forwards to for a particular query oter than that it sometimes may be vpn and sometimes may be local?
[21:18] <nolsen> How to check what DNS servers am I using?
[21:18] <Platypus2k> can't figure out ssh.. tried ssh user@domain.com:50022 and ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-p 50022, but neither works.. I know the domain part and port forward works, because I can ssh from my tablet
[21:18] <nolsen> (My DNS servers are down and I need to know if its google or my ISP)
[21:19] <Pwnna> or is it like.. DNS goes to ISP/local first because it is faster and then go to VPN if local returns nothing and VPN DNS returns soomething
[21:19] <tgm4883> nolsen: click on the network icon then connection information
[21:19] <nolsen> tgm4883: I'm not on unity desktop.
[21:19] <nolsen> oh wait
[21:20] <tgm4883> nolsen: well that's kinda important info, however it should be the same in most if not all ubuntu distros
[21:21] <Pwnna> is there a way to turn this behaviour off and just force everything to VPN's DNS without resorting to commenting out dns=dnsmasq in NetworkManager.conf?
[21:21] <Pwnna> because i don't manage other people's machines and this will create a security risk for them
[21:22] <tits123> hi
[21:23] <tits123> hi
[21:23] <TJ-> Pwnna: as I say I'm not sure but I know it is possible to configure it so that the VPN nameserver replaces any existing nameserver dnsmasq is using
[21:24] <TJ-> Pwnna: it's also possible to configure dnsmasq to only query specific nameservers based on the domain
[21:25] <tits123> hi nolsen
[21:25] <nolsen> Hi.
[21:25] <Pwnna> TJ-: i would need to require all to go through VPN...
[21:25] <tits123> hi Marvin
[21:25] <Marvin> Hi tits123
[21:26] <tits123> hi Helvekta
[21:26] <Pwnna> configuring client machines seems like a nightmare-ish. at this point the only thing i know is to uncomment that line.. maybe i'll try to look for dnsmasq settings as i see the run option for it has a line --conf-dir=/etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d
[21:26] <Helvekta> hiya
[21:26] <tits123> hi mauro_
[21:27] <tits123> hi Helvekta
[21:27] <tits123> hi farid__
[21:27] <mauro_> ciao
[21:28] <tits123> hi dalmatHG
[21:28] <nicomachus> let's keep the "hi's" to a minimum, guys...
[21:28] <tits123> hi mauro__
[21:28] <tits123> hi garrettr
[21:28] <nicomachus> tits123: stop.
[21:29] <genii> tits123: This is a channel for Ubuntu support. If you have some question regarding your Ubuntu you can ask it here. If you have no support issue, join the #ubuntu-offtopic channel instead.
[21:30] <tits123> hi skapunker
[21:30] <Pwnna> and it seems that EVEN IF i comment out that dns line... network manager is still pushing the local dns server to /etc/resolv.conf
[21:30] <Pwnna> which is problematic..
[21:31] <tits123> hi wonderworld
[21:31] <genii> tits123: For casual talk, use #ubuntu-offtopic and not this channel.
[21:31] <tits123> just being friendly
[21:32] <genii> tits123: This is not the channel to randomly say hello to everyone who enters. It just causes noise.
[21:32] <tits123> :-(((
[21:34] <tits123> sorry genii
[21:36] <[dk00]> Hi
[21:36] <tits123> hi [dk00]
[21:36] <tits123> hows it hangin
[21:37] <[dk00]> So if I use an Ubuntu server, can the host (AWS) see its contents or its data traffic?
[21:38] <[dk00]> Or the contents of its data traffic?
[21:38] <[dk00]> Or do I need to encrypt that somehow
[21:38] <[dk00]> I am super noob btw
[21:39] <k1l> the one who got physical access to that machine can always see what is on the machine, except when its encrypted.
[21:39] <[dk00]> It's a fresh ubu server install
[21:39] <rww> and even if it is encrypted on disk, if you're using it in memory, or if the key is in memory, you're still hosed.
[21:40] <rww> so yes, AWS would be able to see the contents of an AWS container.
[21:40] <[dk00]> Is it encrypted?
[21:40] <[dk00]> Can I prevent that rww
[21:40] <rww> and as you already got told in #freenode, "by using a third-party service, you HAVE to trust them. the solution to that is to not use a third-party service"
[21:40] <k1l> [dk00]: the question that you need to decide is: who can you trust not to look into your stuff.
[21:41] <k1l> if you dont trust AWS, then encrypt or use a different hoster or host yourself.
[21:42] <simon> Hi, I can't see my usb in file manager
[21:42] <simon> in dmesg I see "[   42.185119] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk", but I can't see it in file manager
[21:43] <simon> can someone help me with this pls?
[21:43] <snockerton> is it possible to use rsyslog to forward logs that were forwarded to it from another box?
[21:43] <snockerton> i.e. double forward?
[21:43] <[dk00]> So if I encrypt the server then aws can't see it?
[21:43] <[dk00]> The contents
[21:44] <rww> 21:39 < rww> and even if it is encrypted on disk, if you're using it in memory, or if the key is in memory, you're still hosed.
[21:44] <nicomachus> [dk00]: theoretically they still could pull the key out of memory, if they wanted to badly enough.
[21:45] <[dk00]> Can that be prevented?
[21:45] <frostschutz> [dk00], no.
[21:45] <k1l> [dk00]: since you seem to have super suspicious data, dont host them anywhere else than on your own machine.
[21:45] <nicomachus> yea, you could not use AWS or host yourself.
[21:45] <rww> for the nth time, if you're using a third-party system, you have to trust that party. if you don't like that, host it yourself
[21:46] <[dk00]> I'm trying to be a secure as possible while hosting it there
[21:46] <k1l> [dk00]: that doesnt match
[21:46] <[dk00]> Max security at aws
[21:46] <[dk00]> Sure it does
[21:46] <rww> what's your threat model here? who are you needing to protect this container against?
[21:46] <[dk00]> No one specifically
[21:47] <[dk00]> So u said I can encrypt the disk tho?
[21:47] <rww> yay masturbatory security :|
[21:47] <[dk00]> Which would make it harder
[21:47] <[dk00]> But not impossible
[21:47] <nicomachus> not touching this... way too sketchy.
[21:47] <[dk00]> Sketchy?
[21:47] <[dk00]> Lol
[21:48] <[dk00]> Thanks for judging
[21:48] <[dk00]> What else can be encrypted
[21:48] <[dk00]> Just the disk?
[21:48] <nicomachus> [dk00]: you're either unnecessarily concerned about AWS getting into your business, or you're concerned because the contents of the AWS server are something that AWS wouldn't want on their servers. so, yes. sketchy.
[21:49] <[dk00]> Or I just take security seriously
[21:49] <[dk00]> So stop being an ass
[21:49] <nicomachus> then don't host on a third party server.
[21:49] <[dk00]> Did I ask you where to hos
[21:49] <[dk00]> host
[21:49] <nicomachus> [dk00]: try ##security.
[21:49] <frostschutz> aws is super expensive anyhow
[21:50] <[dk00]> They have a free tier
[21:50] <k1l> [dk00]: as a user who is already annoying with asking the same question that was already answered 10 times i would not start to call other names.
[21:50] <rww> I'm noting that this seems to have been triggered by [dk00] realizing IRCCloud can read his IRC traffic. It's unlikely he's hosting anything important on AWS.
[21:50] <rww> or sketchy, for that matter
[21:50] <[dk00]> I am not
[21:50] <rww> It is, however, a complete waste of time, since Amazon doesn't care about his IRC traffic.
[21:51] <[dk00]> But disk encryption sounds like something that could be useful
[21:52] <TJ-> disk ecnryption only protects when the server is powered down
[21:52] <[dk00]> No such thing as memory encryption?
[21:53] <slifeet> Where would the key be kept if the memory was encrypted?
[21:53] <k1l> i dont know how usefull that is on a virtual server at all.
[21:54] <thegreen2undred> I'd love to talk about theoretically creating a ram disk that comsumes 99% of ram & setting it as swap space, theoretically then 99% of memory contents could maybe be encrypted
[21:54] <[dk00]> No idea
[21:54] <[dk00]> I am a noob
[21:54] <jefffan24> I have 2 hard drives, and one has hte bootloader the other ubuntu. The one with the bootloader is going bad.  Got a partition created on ubuntu drive and everything was going well until I ran boot-repair its now stuck at `Purge kernels then reinstall last kernel sdb1 (ins). this may require several minutes`.  Any ideas what to do to fix this
[21:54] <jefffan24> Its been stuck at that step for over an hour
[21:54] <thegreen2undred> but that would be extremely academic and not practically possible
[21:55] <thegreen2undred> the only benefit would be protection from someone hacking the path between cpu & ram anyway which would be easier to solve with an iron box
[21:55] <jefffan24> I've got a boot-info url if that would help anyone at all
[21:55] <Alukard> hello
[21:55] <thegreen2undred> and it would only be hackable at that level in fictional writing
[21:55] <Alukard> !list
[21:56] <Alukard> XD
[21:56] <thegreen2undred> jefffan24 you can grub-install to a new partition on a different drive, grub update on your existing location wouldnt help with the hardware failure
[21:56] <jefffan24> I'm running this from a live cd
[21:57] <jefffan24> forgot to mention that
[21:58] <jefffan24> thegreen2undred, if I run grub install on that partition, will that handle the MBR and making that drive bootable?
[21:58] <thegreen2undred> then grub-install is definitely going to be your go-to, do you have space on your good drive to make a boot partition?
[21:58] <[dk00]> Ok so how do I encrypt the disk?
[21:59] <jefffan24> yeah its already made
[21:59] <neredsenvy> Anyone know a fix for lightdm white screen problem. Tried rebooting lightdm to no success.
[21:59] <neredsenvy> Happens every time I use a second screen
[21:59] <jefffan24> shrunk sdb1 (took forever) then prepended a partition of 1GB
[21:59] <jefffan24> and made it ext4
[21:59] <thegreen2undred> MBR/gpt (partition table) is already in place if you have a partition on the drive, we wont be dealing with that unles you are working with an empty disk
[21:59] <jefffan24> its now sdb3
[22:00] <Bashing-om> jefffan24: Is the liveDVD the same release as theat of the installed 'buntu ? - then intall grub to sdb's MBR . reset bios to boot from that 3nd hard drive .
[22:00] <neredsenvy> This morning I installed gdm uninstalled it cuss it did not work correctly, reenabled lightdm it worked used 2nd monitor now it happened again.
[22:00] <thegreen2undred> i cant google it at the moment but it will be something to the effect of : grub-install /dev/sdb3
[22:00] <jefffan24> Bashing-om, they are both 14.04 I'm not sure about the minor versoin
[22:00] <jefffan24> and is it alright ot just stop the boot repair?
[22:00] <thegreen2undred> google that command and you should be able to find some helpful context
[22:01] <thegreen2undred> then you'll maybe want to run sudo grub-update (sorry if my commands are only loosley accurate) not on my own machine to verify
[22:01] <Bashing-om> jefffan24: That will be fine, next is how is sdb partitioned ? GPT does require a /boot partition .
[22:01] <TJ-> thegreen2undred: jefffan24 it is VERY unlikely you want to install grub to a partition with "grub-install /dev/sdb3" - that will not work
[22:02] <jefffan24> Bashing-om, sdb3 is 1GB its the first partition in the list, then sdb1 883GB, then sdb2 (extended) > sdb5 swap.
[22:02] <thegreen2undred> TJ- i'm a bit weak on my boot partition work, none else was responding so i offered google'able answers
[22:02] <jefffan24> thanks for your help thegreen2undred appreciate it :)
[22:03] <thegreen2undred> jefffan24, besides getting grub installed to that partition you can use gparted to enable the boot flag
[22:03] <Bashing-om> jefffan24: You make up that sdb1 partition ? .. best show us the partitioning ' pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' .
[22:03] <TJ-> jefffan24: I think what you need is to ensure there's a file-system in /dev/sdb3, mount it to some mountpoint, then do something like "grub-install --boot-directory /path/to/mountpoint/of/sdb3 /dev/sdb "
[22:04] <jefffan24> TJ-, ext4
[22:04] <thegreen2undred> ha, so it will be more in the form of grub-install --root-directory=/path/to/OS /dev/sdb3
[22:05] <Bashing-om> jefffan24: TJ- wrote the book on booting . we follow his guidance .
[22:05] <TJ-> thegreen2undred: NO! forget /dev/sdb3 that is wrong, it should be /dev/sdb
[22:05] <thegreen2undred> thanks for the input
[22:06] <jefffan24> ok Bashing-om thanks, just for reference here is that `sudo parted -l` output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14148491
[22:06] <TJ-> thegreen2undred: the device passed to "grub-install" is where the MBR boot-strap code goes. "--boot-directory X" sets the location where grub-install copies its modules.
[22:06] <TJ-> jefffan24: I missed the earlier discussions; is the the disk partitioned with GPT, or MSDOS/MBR ?
[22:06] <thegreen2undred> TJ- awesome, that helps make sense of some things I was missing
[22:07] <jefffan24> partition table is msdos? I'm not sure exactly if that's what you are looking for
[22:07] <Bashing-om> TJ-: jefffan24 " Partition Table: msdos " . :)
[22:07] <[dk00]> So guys is there anything I do to scramble the memory?
[22:07] <TJ-> thegreen2undred: if you're interested https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/
[22:08] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, so, when 'grub-install' does its thing it needs somewhere to put its core.img, which is approx 1MB in size. Often that is in 'spare' sectors before the first partition, unless you've reserved a partition for it especially.
[22:09] <thegreen2undred> TJ- bookmarked and btw its beautiful
[22:09] <jefffan24> TJ-, reserved a partition for it specifically
[22:09] <TJ-> jefffan24: looking at your parted output
[22:11] <TJ-> jefffan24: It's not quite as you need it to slip GRUB boot in there; can we get some more detail with "pastebinit <( sudo parted /dev/sdb unit s print )"
[22:12] <TJ-> jefffan24: grub-install needs to separate spaces: 1. for core.img (~1MB), and 2. for the grub modules (usually mounted at /boot/grub/)
[22:12] <jefffan24> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14148781 <--- TJ- the command you told me to run
[22:14] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, measurements are all in sectors (s) now; we can see the partitions start at 2048, and with the MBR in sector 0, that leaves plenty of 'spare' sectors in-between for GRUB to slip its core.img, so that's #1 solved.
[22:14] <TJ-> jefffan24: so /dev/sdb3 can be used for GRUB's 'root' file-system.
[22:14] <TJ-> jefffan24: is /dev/sdb3 file-system currently mounted?
[22:15] <jefffan24> no but it can be
[22:15] <wligtenberg> I have just installed clamav on my server, but freshclam is failing to get the update
[22:16] <TJ-> jefffan24: just so i understand; Are you wanting to make /dev/sdb independently boot an OS installed in /dev/sdb1 ?
[22:16] <jpmh> is there something equivalent to boxtrapper that is available for ubuntu?
[22:16] <jefffan24> TJ-, yes
[22:17] <jefffan24> and sdb3 is now mounted
[22:17] <TJ-> jefffan24: and you're currently using a Live ISO boot?
[22:17] <jefffan24> livecd
[22:17] <TJ-> jefffan24: same thing :)
[22:17] <jefffan24> but yeah
[22:17] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, let's do this via a chroot (change root) to do it properly
[22:18] <TJ-> jefffan24: "sudo mkdir /target"
[22:18] <SPF> hi, in order to make virtualbox work I have to do sudo chmod 666 /dev/sda*. This is only recently probably due updates ?
[22:18] <TJ-> jefffan24: "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /target"
[22:18] <TJ-> jefffan24: "sudo umount /dev/sdb3"
[22:18] <jefffan24> TJ-, sdb1 was already mounted (I think from boot-repair) I didn't do it
[22:18] <jefffan24> should I unmount it first?
[22:18] <TJ-> jefffan24: umount it
[22:19] <TJ-> jefffan24: we don't want to get confused. We want to end up with the root file-system of sdb1 at /target/
[22:19] <tittybot69> join #tf2
[22:19] <jefffan24> its saying sdb1 is busy
[22:19] <jefffan24> probably from the failed boot-repair
[22:19] <TJ-> jefffan24: you have tools open in the mountpoint
[22:19] <TJ-> jefffan24: possible need to "cd /" or close a GUI file-browser?
[22:20] <jefffan24> only thing open is the terminal
[22:21] <TJ-> jefffan24: try "sudo umount --lazy /dev/sdb1"
[22:21] <jefffan24> unrecognized option --lazy
[22:21] <TJ-> jefffan24: which ubuntu release is that? "cat /etc/issue"
[22:22] <jefffan24> 14.04.3
[22:22] <TJ-> jefffan24: Ahh, then it doesn't have the long option; use "sudo umount -l /dev/sdb1"
[22:23] <jefffan24> that worked :)
[22:23] <TJ-> jefffan24: now "mount" may show that /dev/sdb1 is no longer mounted
[22:24] <jefffan24> ok sdb1 is now mounted at target
[22:24] <TJ-> jefffan24: Good, that's the one we want. if you do "ls -l" you see all the root-file-system directories like bin/, usr/ var/ etc/ ?
[22:24] <jefffan24> Yup
[22:25] <jefffan24> it also has boot and boot_bak with boot_bak created today, just incase that matter
[22:25] <jefffan24> s
[22:25] <TJ-> jefffan24: that's good, full steam ahead now. We'll mount the kernel file-systems first with
[22:26] <TJ-> jefffan24: "for N in proc sys dev dev/pts run; do sudo mount --bind /$N /target/$N; done "
[22:26] <TJ-> jefffan24: and now we'll enter into that system properly with "sudo chroot /target" - at this point you're 'root' in the 'broken' system
[22:27] <jefffan24> and I just type that for and do in the command line on one line correct?
[22:27] <TJ-> jefffan24: yes, type everything inside the double-quotes I use
[22:27] <TJ-> jefffan24: but not the double-quotes themselves
[22:28] <DirtyCajun> what is a great free monitoring tool for ubuntu server? I need to be able to see the info realtime preferrably on a webpage, i need processes cpu/mem load and network utilization
[22:29] <jefffan24> TJ-, so should I run chroot before or after the forcommand?
[22:29] <daftykins> that in itself is a big waste of resources
[22:29] <TJ-> jefffan24: in the order I give you the commands :)
[22:29] <TJ-> jefffan24: so, *before*
[22:29] <jefffan24> mount: mount point /target/dev/ptr does not exist
[22:29] <TJ-> jefffan24: sorry, *AFTER* !!!
[22:30] <TJ-> jefffan24: you're confusing me now ... lets start again, ignore stuff you've already done!
[22:30] <TJ-> jefffan24: "for N in proc sys dev dev/pts run; do sudo mount --bind /$N /target/$N; done " (it's pts not ptr - you have a typo)
[22:30] <jefffan24> thanks
[22:30] <jefffan24> totally missed that
[22:30] <TJ-> jefffan24: then, after that, "sudo chroot /target"
[22:31] <TJ-> jefffan24: you should be able to copy-paste these commands if you're IRC-ing from the LiveCD
[22:31] <jefffan24> I'm not
[22:31] <jefffan24> I'm ircing from my laptop
[22:31] <TJ-> jefffan24: ahhh, drat :)
[22:31] <jefffan24> but command ran cleanly with the typo fixed
[22:31] <TJ-> jefffan24: is that other PC connected to a network?
[22:31] <jefffan24> yup
[22:32] <TJ-> jefffan24: ok, that could be useful later. Do the 'chroot' and we'll check
[22:32] <jefffan24> did the chroot
[22:32] <TJ-> jefffan24: "ping -nc5 <IP_ADDRESS>" to check there's basic connectivity to the Internet
[22:32] <jefffan24> successful pings
[22:33] <TJ-> jefffan24: and now lets check name resolving: "ping -c5 google-public-dns-a.google.com"
[22:33] <TJ-> jefffan24: that's the same target but by name
[22:33] <jefffan24> looks good
[22:34] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, now lets try to update its package lists "apt-get update"
[22:35] <jefffan24> done and successful
[22:35] <TJ-> jefffan24: so, lets see if we can install a helper: "apt-get install pastebinit"
[22:35] <ohgodpleasehelp> Hello, does anyone have experience with SourceTree/Git? I wanted to back up my project by creating a repo for it, so I clicked 'Create New Repo', selected my files, clicked 'Commit', and now my entire project is back to its starting point. I went to Remote Branches and found my files under a branch under 'uncommitted changes'. I right clicked it and clicked 'reset current branch to this commit'. What do I do from this point?
[22:36] <jefffan24> TJ-, successfully install
[22:36] <simon235> Hi, when installing from usb, I don't see my ssd. I've followed this guide: http://superuser.com/questions/863073/ubuntu-14-04-doesnt-see-my-ssd-drive/863086#863086 , but I got this error: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'."
[22:36] <ohgodpleasehelp> This was also the only copy of the project I had from this point. 3 months work is now just sitting in this branch and I'm not able to access it in my files anymore
[22:36] <nicomachus> ohgodpleasehelp: try asking in #github
[22:36] <ohgodpleasehelp> Thanks
[22:36] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, let me see some diag info: "pastebinit <( cat /etc/fstab; dpkg -l 'linux*' )"
[22:37] <simon235> Hi, when installing from usb, I don't see my ssd. I've followed this guide: http://superuser.com/questions/863073/ubuntu-14-04-doesnt-see-my-ssd-drive/863086#863086 , but I got this error: "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.". Then I've followed this guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/207663/cannot-update-grub-with-paramters-on-live-usb/333011 , but still got the same error. Someone knows how to fix
[22:37] <jefffan24> TJ-, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14149842/
[22:38] <simon235> sorry for double posting, I've accidently click ENTER (new keyboard)
[22:38] <daftykins> simon235: sounds like a corrupt download or bad flash drive write
[22:38] <daftykins> simon235: does it work in another PC, your drive?
[22:38] <simon235> daftykins: do you mean my SSD Drive?
[22:38] <TJ-> jefffan24: "pastebinit <( sudo blkid /dev/sdb )"
[22:39] <daftykins> simon235: no the flash drive you booted from
[22:39] <simon235> daftykins: or USB?
[22:39] <daftykins> i'd say SSD for SSD
[22:39] <simon235> daftykins: yes, it works on other devices.
[22:39] <jefffan24> TJ-, "You are trying to send an empty document, exiting"
[22:40] <TJ-> simon235: is the 'SSD' on an Intel caching controller? We've seen those before, and there's some complicated BIOS/firmware changes required to use that device as  a regular device
[22:40] <daftykins> simon235: are you attempting to dualboot beside an existing Windows? might be a normal vs. EFI booting situation there
[22:40] <TJ-> jefffan24: sorry, my fault. "pastebinit <( sudo blkid /dev/sdb* )"
[22:40] <simon235> daftykins: yes, I do
[22:40] <jefffan24> TJ-, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14149942/
[22:41] <simon235> TJ-: I don't know what is "Intel caching controller", so I don
[22:41] <simon235> so I don't know if this is true
[22:41] <TJ-> jefffan24: looking good so far; now let's mount those /etc/fstab entries with "mount -a"
[22:42] <ohgodpleasehelp> Is there anyone with Sourcetree experience who can help me? Noone is #github is answering and I'm asbolutely terrified my project is gone
[22:42] <TJ-> jefffan24: at this point "mount" should show that /dev/sdb3 is on /boot
[22:42] <jefffan24> TJ-, yup
[22:42] <simon235> daftykins: Do you have any idea how to solve this?
[22:43] <daftykins> !efi | simon235 have a read about EFI vs. legacy boot
[22:43] <TJ-> ohgodpleasehelp: I wasn't aware there was a Linux Sourcetree client
[22:44] <ohgodpleasehelp> @TJ- There isn't, I'm on Windows. I assume it's similar to any Git UI
[22:44] <daftykins> ohgodpleasehelp: why are you in an ubuntu channel to ask?
[22:44] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, good. Now let's install the kernel packages as a prerquisite for GRUB: "apt-get install linux-generic"
[22:44] <ohgodpleasehelp> daftykins The issue is more related to git than Sourcetree
[22:44] <TJ-> ohgodpleasehelp: you'd best ask Atlassian
[22:45] <daftykins> amusingly my mate used to be the OS X dev for that product ;)
[22:45] <daftykins> ohgodpleasehelp: my point is how wrong it is for an Ubuntu channel :D
[22:45] <jefffan24> TJ-, done
[22:45] <TJ-> jefffan24: good, now let's try for GRUB: "apt-get install grub-pc"
[22:46] <jefffan24> already at the newest version
[22:46] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, so "grub-install /dev/sdb" then, if all OK, "update-grub"
[22:46] <Guest15186> hello how do I enlarge the font on here ?
[22:47] <wafflejock> Guest15186: depends on your IRC client
[22:47] <jefffan24> TJ-, installing for i386-pc platform, is that normal for a 64bit install?
[22:47] <k1l> Guest15186: look into the settings of the client you are using
[22:47] <jefffan24> or does it even matter
[22:47] <genii> jefffan24: For GRUB thats normal
[22:47] <Guest15186> thank you
[22:47] <TJ-> jefffan24: yes, GRUB is 32-bit only
[22:48] <jefffan24> good to know
[22:48] <TJ-> jefffan24: as in, for BIOS boots, it operates in 32-bit protected mode
[22:48] <jefffan24> ahh makes sense
[22:48] <TJ-> jefffan24: for grub-efi it is 64-bit
[22:48] <jefffan24> update-grub finished successfully
[22:48] <TJ-> jefffan24: now let's check the config it generated: "pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[22:49] <jefffan24> TJ-, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14150195/
[22:50] <TJ-> jefffan24: did you want the Windows on sda to be in that GRUB boot menu on sdb ?
[22:50] <jefffan24> No that drive is getting pulled
[22:50] <jefffan24> Its the one that is going bad
[22:51] <Guest15186> that's better
[22:51] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, then do "echo 'GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true' >> /etc/default/grub" (make SURE to use >> not >  so it appends not overwrites)
[22:51] <TJ-> jefffan24: then redo "update-grub"
[22:52] <ohgodpleasehelp> I'll send anyone who can privately help me recover my files $15 in bitcoin if that helps
[22:52] <jefffan24> TJ-, done
[22:52] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, in theory its ready to boot from now
[22:53] <jefffan24> TJ-, time to test then?
[22:53] <TJ-> jefffan24: remove external boto devices, set BIOS boot order so sdb is first, and test
[22:54] <MACscr> How can i troubleshoot this log entry?
[22:54] <MACscr> kernel: [517697.997278] type=1400 audit(1450824802.260:19803): apparmor="DENIED" operation="ptrace" profile="lxc-container-default" pid=16698 comm="ps" requested_mask="trace" denied_mask="trace" peer="unconfined"
[22:54] <MACscr> I have no idea what container is even causing the issue
[22:54] <Guest15186> can I change my nick ?
[22:54] <TJ-> MACscr: check the pid
[22:54] <MACscr> TJ-: but its already gone
[22:54] <mint_> I'm running linux mint from a live usb and i find it's a little slow. Anyone know if it's because it's through a live usb that it's slow?
[22:54] <CubeIX> Guest15186: /nick
[22:55] <TJ-> MACscr: comm=ps suggests it was /bin/ps
[22:55] <k1l> !mint | mint_
[22:55] <simon> daftykins, do you know if I'll choose "enable CSM" it'll help somehow?
[22:55] <Guest15186> thank you
[22:55] <k1l> mint_: just use the mint channels that are made autojoin on your irc client.
[22:55] <mint_> thanks
[22:55] <MACscr> TJ-: yep, but i still have no idea why that would cause an apparmor issue or what container its from
[22:55] <daftykins> simon: you must boot and install ubuntu in the same mode as the Windows there already is
[22:56] <TJ-> MACscr: you ran 'ps' on the host as UID 0 ?
[22:56] <curlyears> k1l:  believe it or not, no joy.  )-:
[22:56] <MACscr> TJ-: huh? i am not doing anything manually to cause it. this issue is happening though a few dozen times an hour
[22:56] <curlyears> hi, TJ-
[22:57] <Guest15186> done
[22:57] <k1l> curlyears: set the sdb to be the firs in boot order in bios
[22:57] <k1l> *first
[22:57] <TJ-> MACscr: ok, so something else is running 'ps' from a script maybe? maybe you've installed some monitoring tooling?
[22:58] <curlyears> K1`l:   I beleive it is, but how do I contorl whish HDD the BIOS boots from?   the only choices I seem to had are hdd or other non-hdd devices
[22:58] <jefffan24> TJ-, grub came up and I am current logged into my existing ubuntu instance.
[22:58] <jefffan24> Thank you so much!
[22:58] <simon> daftykins, in the installation wizard, when I clicked "Next" I saw an confirmation about "efi mode" or "uefi mode" (I don't remember exactly). I clicked "Go Back" because I wanted to change something in the previous screen, and now I can't see this dialog anymore
[22:58] <simon> daftykins, not even after reboot
[22:58] <k1l> curlyears: look into the biod settings or see if there is a "what to boot from menu" when you press f10 or f12 or such (look into the handbook)
[22:59] <simon> daftykins, do you have an idea how to restore this dialog?
[22:59] <daftykins> simon: which install wizard? if you ran wubi.exe to install ubuntu from inside windows, we don't support that
[22:59] <Guest97245> that's better
[22:59] <curlyears> k1l:  that's what I'm telling you, there doesn't appear to be any control over WHICH hdd it boots from
[23:00] <k1l> curlyears: i doubt that.
[23:00] <simon> daftykins, the install wizard that comes when I choose "Install Ubuntu" in the boot menu
[23:00] <curlyears> k1l: alll it letsa me do is choose the boot order
[23:00] <MACscr> TJ-: i have like 12 containers, and every container does have check_mk and snmp running
[23:00] <daftykins> simon: ah, well the link i gave you should have explained the difference between booting your USB flash drive as EFI or not
[23:01] <MACscr> but i have no idea why their would be any issues running ps commands in a container
[23:01] <TJ-> jefffan24: great to hear, that was pretty easy :)
[23:01] <MACscr> they are all privileged containers as well
[23:01] <MACscr> whats the point of this audit trail if it doesnt give me a way to find out exactly what caused it?
[23:02] <MWM> Im going to move my intiallation to a new HDD but Im concerned that I may botch the process.  Surefire tutorial somewhere?  Ive heard to sue dd Im nearly certain I will botch that one
[23:02] <TJ-> MACscr: it'll be some tight apparmor profile obviously - looks pretty sensible not allowing 'trace' by default. Check the apparmor profiles themselves
[23:02] <simon> daftykins, from your link "- If the BIOS is set up to boot the CD in UEFI mode, then you will see the screen below:". This is what I see. But I still can't see the SSD.
[23:02] <daftykins> MWM: clonezilla
[23:02] <MACscr> grr, i dont know crap about apparmor
[23:03] <TJ-> MACscr: that audit message gives you everything you need to sort it
[23:03] <TJ-> MACscr: as it says, the profile blocking access is "lxc-container-default" - and you know it's DENYing "trace" too,
[23:03] <daftykins> simon: are you typing from that live session now? (boot to 'try' mode)
[23:03] <MWM> daftykins: is clonzilla idiotproof ?  alternatively can I use dd and move it to an existing drive in the system and then remove the old one ?  Will I still boot afterwords?
[23:04] <daftykins> is the new drive bigger?
[23:05] <MWM> daftykins: very much so.
[23:05] <simon> daftykins, right now I'm chatting from another PC. why?
[23:05] <curlyears> k1l:  I'll go try looking for that option, but I don't thinkn it's there
[23:05] <TJ-> MACscr: looking at the apparmor profiles the lxc seems to start with /etc/apparmor.d/lxc-containers >> /etc/apparmor.d/lxc/lxc-default
[23:05] <daftykins> simon: you can run some commands from the terminal to check what it sees
[23:05] <daftykins> MWM: come online from a live session then you can dd the two disks direct.
[23:06] <TJ-> right! back to my coding
[23:06] <MWM> daftykins:  then I can just pull the old disk and reboot? or will I ahve to change UUID in the fstab or something?
[23:06] <MWM> thanks BTW
[23:06] <daftykins> MWM: one step at a time.
[23:07] <daftykins> right now you've got a map showing you where the bridge is, lets walk up to it first ;)
[23:07] <simon235> daftykins: OK, now I'm typing from the live session
[23:08] <MACscr> TJ-: what does this part mean? peer="unconfined"
[23:08] <MACscr> i do have two lxc guests with "lxc.aa_profile = unconfined" in their lxc_name/config profiles
[23:08] <daftykins> simon235: in a terminal, run "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:08] <MWM> not going to be making the swtich for a few days yet.  Im just making sure I dont botch the job right now.  Ill drop back in when Ive done the work in dd.  Thanks
[23:09] <simon235> daftykins: It says "Use netcat."
[23:10] <daftykins> simon235: alternatively then, "sudo apt update && sudo apt install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[23:11] <simon235> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14151078/
[23:12] <Platypus2k> can't figure out ssh.. tried ssh user@domain.com:50022, ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-p 50022 and ssh -p 50022<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but neither works.. I know the domain part and port forward works, because I can ssh from my tablet
[23:12] <daftykins> simon235: mmm sure enough a 1TB storage disk only; what make + model system is this?
[23:13] <daftykins> Platypus2k: don't try and get it all at once, see if it gets through without specifying a user to start with
[23:13] <daftykins> also consider -vv on ssh to have more idea what it's trying
[23:13] <simon235> daftykins: it is asus g752. Is this what you mean?
[23:14] <daftykins> yep, lets see
[23:14] <Platypus2k> different usernames and nonstandard ports. thanks for verbose tip
[23:16] <simon235> daftykins: btw, do you know how to prevent the data from live sessions to be saved? I missed a dialog about efi/uefi when I first came into the installation wizard. Then anytime I restart I have my checkbox/radio buttons pre-chosen in the wizard
[23:16] <simon235> and it remembers I accidently clicked
[23:16] <daftykins> Platypus2k: i know but you don't need to get the user right to see the prompt comes up, if you're not getting that far - so try e.g. "ssh hostname -p 50022" and "ssh hostname:50022" with no user stuff
[23:16] <simon235> "cancel" on uefi/efi dialog
[23:16] <daftykins> simon235: live sessions don't save anything
[23:17] <daftykins> unless you made the drive 'persistent'
[23:17] <Platypus2k> it managed to resovle the ip from the domain name I gave it, still times out
[23:17] <simon235> daftykins: idk, maybe it saves on the USB or something, but I have the browser history from the previous session.
[23:17] <daftykins> simon235: can you share "dmesg | pastebinit" ?
[23:18] <simon235> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14151287/
[23:18] <daftykins> yep your drive is persistent, you'd need to remake it
[23:18] <shadow2> huh
[23:19] <simon235> daftykins: what does it mean?
[23:20] <daftykins> it stores changes, so you'd need to wipe it and recreate
[23:20] <shadow2> have i manage to change my nick at last hehe
[23:20] <shadow2> wow
[23:21] <daftykins> simon235: it looks like that laptop comes with a 128GB SSD, if so i would not try and adjust the size of that - as 128 is barely enough for Windows on its' own
[23:22] <simon235> daftykins: What if I'll put Windows OS on 50 GB SSD, and windows data on HDD?
[23:23] <simon235> daftykins: (logging out, speak to "simon" instead")
[23:23] <curlyears> k1l:  as I thought.  I went through every menu in my BIOS, no option for choosing which drive to boot from
[23:23] <daftykins> simon: no, 128GB is barely enough for just Windows' install
[23:24] <curlyears> I could try disconnecting the othwer drive for n ow
[23:24] <k1l> curlyears: then see the handbook which key to press to get to the boot menu to choose
[23:24] <xcelq> daftykins:  if you do windows + linux 250gb
[23:24] <xcelq> for each
[23:24] <curlyears> ]'j1l:  the motherboad handbook?
[23:24] <k1l> curlyears: yes
[23:24] <curlyears> k1l
[23:25] <simon> daftykins, why windows need so much space for OS only without data?
[23:26] <daftykins> xcelq: it's a 128GB SSD beside a 1TB HDD, i don't see what you mean :)
[23:26] <curlyears> OK, that's on a CD, so off I go again.  this is getting quite tedious, it takes a considerable to to boot from the Live CD
[23:26] <daftykins> simon: because in time it'll grow. i would not attempt to resize it, in fact i think ubuntu is badly suited to put on that system at all
[23:26] <curlyears> k1l:  I aM QUITE CERTAIN YOU ARE FINDING THIS TEDIOUS AS WLL
[23:26] <curlyears> well
[23:26] <k1l> curlyears: its not rocket science. you could press f10 or f12 or esc or such to test which key it is
[23:27] <curlyears> soww for all caps
[23:27] <curlyears> OK
[23:27] <daftykins> simon: i think the SSD in that laptop is too new for ubuntu to make use of, anyway
[23:27] <simon> daftykins, why?
[23:28] <daftykins> simon: because it's likely M.2 PCI-Express and it isn't supported well yet, in your dmesg i can only see the DVD and 1TB HDD get detected
[23:28] <daftykins> one moment let me check with someone
[23:29] <simon> I aim to use mostly Ubuntu, and barely use windows, so I guess it won't grow rapidly
[23:29] <simon> daftykins, ^^
[23:29] <daftykins> simon: then it's too new for Linux i'm afraid
[23:31] <daftykins> simon: can you run "lspci -nnk | pastebinit" from the live session?
[23:35] <shadow2> now that i got established in here for the first time is it normal to ask where ppl are from etc ?
[23:35] <simon235> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14151998/
[23:36] <daftykins> shadow2: no, support only in here - #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[23:36] <bazhang> shadow2, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[23:37] <shadow2> I've not been here before
[23:37] <TJ-> daftykins: simon235 I don't see any PCI-connected storage there, nothing reporting on the PCIe bus
[23:37] <Bashing-om> shadow2: Yhis channle is ubuntu support only. palaver in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[23:38] <daftykins> TJ-: could it be hiding from that persistent wily flash drive? i'm convinced it has one, as such a gaming spec laptop wouldn't come with just the 1TB mechanical
[23:39] <simon235> daftykins: TJ- , I'm sure I have the SSD. I have Windows installed on it.
[23:39] <almark> maybe a lshw will show it ...
[23:39] <TJ-> daftykins: simon235 anything connected on PCI/e will show up even if no drivers are available.
[23:40] <daftykins> simon235: can you go back to Windows and run crystaldiskinfo and screenshot to imgur.com of the SSD?
[23:40] <TJ-> simon235: daftykins as I said earlier; we've seen similar systems where the SSD is actually on a special Intel caching controller and is not seen directly by the OS
[23:41] <simon235> TJ-: daftykins yes sure
[23:41] <simon235> in a min
[23:41] <daftykins> might be a newer arm of the chipset RAID tech that i've not seen yet if so
[23:43] <TJ-> simon235: daftykins asus web-site is terrible; all the Support links (drivers, etc) are broken
[23:44] <daftykins> their US one seemed down for me a moment ago, kept hiding things
[23:44] <simon235_> TJ-: What did you ask to printscreen?
[23:44] <TJ-> simon235_: I think daftykins  did that
[23:46] <daftykins> simon235: yeah it was me, download crystaldiskinfo
[23:46] <daftykins> http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/Asus/G752VT/cdmc.png
[23:46] <daftykins> pretty certain it's a freestanding non-obfuscated drive, how odd
[23:50] <simon235_> daftykins: https://imgur.com/1a15G6t
[23:50] <simon235_> daftykins: I don't think this is the right screen
[23:51] <daftykins> wow so even crystaldiskinfo can't see it!
[23:51] <zwischenzug> hello.  i've never touched the kernel or kernel configs before, and am a bit over my head.  i want to enable "CONFIG_MEMCG_KMEM" and "CONFIG_MEMCG_SWAP_ENABLED".  i've added "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="cgroup_enable=memory swapaccount=1" to `etc/default/grub`, updated grub, and rebooted.  i see "cgroup_enable=memory swapaccount=1" in /proc/cmdline, but CONFIG_MEMCG_KMEM is still not enabled, according to /boot/config-3.1
[23:51] <zwischenzug> 3.0-24-generic
[23:51] <daftykins> simon235_: and if you run "diskmgmt.msc" ? do you see C:? or even just in the 'This PC' view? (alt+print-screen captures just the active window)
[23:51] <genii> zwischenzug: Read up on sysctl.conf
[23:52] <daftykins> zwischenzug: 3.13.0-24? that's old
[23:52] <jonny5000> hello just installed ubuntu 14.04 on a lenovo yoga 13 and it does not recognize pointer device (trackpad) any help?
[23:53] <simon235_> daftykins: screenshoting in windows is a nightmare :(
[23:53] <daftykins> no it's not
[23:53] <simon235_> daftykins: https://imgur.com/PsVyg9O
[23:53] <zwischenzug> daftykins, i'm on 14.04, should i update my kernel?
[23:53] <daftykins> err the detail is too hidden, simon235_
[23:54] <daftykins> zwischenzug: yeah you should be on 3.13.0-73 or 74 by now
[23:54] <daftykins> !info linux-generic trusty
[23:54] <daftykins> 74 yep
[23:54] <TJ-> simon235_: we need to see the detail for Disk 1
[23:55] <k1l> zwischenzug: is this a vps?
[23:55] <simon235_> daftykins: TJ- : Better this way? https://imgur.com/mbIe0JE
[23:55] <zwischenzug> k1l, no.
[23:56] <k1l> zwischenzug: so its your machine? and its a regular machine? with no reason for a specific kernel? (like arm or mips or such)
[23:56] <TJ-> simon235_: Yes, can you drill down on Disk 1 menus to get more info on the device itself
[23:57] <zwischenzug> k1l, yes, my machine (running as a x86-64 vm)
[23:57] <daftykins> ok looks like crystaldiskinfo just doesn't support the NVMe SSD yet
[23:57] <k1l> zwischenzug: then install "linux-generic" which will bring you the regular 14.04 kernel.
[23:57] <k1l> hmm, might be due  to your vm method that its on 3.0 kernel
[23:58] <simon235_> TJ-: Do you want to see "properties"? Which tab?
[23:58] <TJ-> simon235_: it might be better to go into the Windows Device Manager, expand the tree down to the SSD device, and screenshot so we can see how Windows sees it connected. Then go to the Properties tab of the SSD itself, and get the device ID (vendor and product)
[23:58] <daftykins> simon235_: the samsung name should show up under storage in device manager -> devmgmt.msc
[23:58] <daftykins> 'Disk drives'
[23:59] <TJ-> simon235_: we're mostly interested in how the SSD is connected to the motherboard devices


[01:13] <truexfan81> ok one of my game server things has a binary called "gs" my question is why is it that on ubuntu 20.04.2 when i do "pkill -9 gs" xorg crashes?
[01:15] <sarnold> truexfan81: what happens if you use a kinder signal?
[01:16] <truexfan81> i'll try it and see but i'm guessing more of a delay before it crashes
[01:18] <truexfan81> ok killall works nicely
[01:19] <truexfan81> next question which package will give me libstdc++.so.5?
[01:19] <sarnold> libstdc++5: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.5
[01:25] <truexfan81> thank you
[01:25] <truexfan81> and i have found packages.ubuntu.com, and just found a package my game needs that the site can't find: libpcre.so.0
[01:33] <sarnold> truexfan81: wow, uh, that might be harder to track down.
[01:34] <sarnold> truexfan81: so.. this is fishing .. but https://abi-laboratory.pro/index.php?view=timeline&l=pcre suggests soname of 0 is 2011 timeframe
[01:34] <sarnold> 8.21
[01:35] <sarnold> truexfan81: and I don't see 8.21 on http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pcre3/ -- 8.12 is close. maybe try one of those?
[04:57] <sybariten> So what happened to the linux chan?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> sybariten: ##linux
[04:59] <sybariten> uh ok
[06:50] <shachaf> If you select "Erase entire disk" in Ubuntu, and you have multiple disks, how does it decide which one to erase?
[06:51] <shachaf> It doesn't look like it asks about it before getting to the "Install now" button.
[06:51] <shachaf> I mean in the installer.
[07:12] <EriC^^> shachaf: i'd use the "something else" option in the bottom and manually partition
[07:12] <guiverc> shachaf, I usually use 'something else' so I have full control, but some selections then provide picture where you select (via click) but I can't recall as most installs I do have only a single disk
[07:19] <foxbox> Hey all
[07:30] <shachaf> EriC^^, guiverc: But "something else" doesn't let you do disk encryption, right?
[07:31] <shachaf> We resolved the situation by disabling one of the drivers in the BIOS.
[07:31] <shachaf> But the fact that disk encryption is all-or-nothing is very frustrating.
[07:32] <guiverc> shachaf, older releases did have partition encryption (options), but it was dropped as full-disk-encryption is more secure
[07:33] <shachaf> In what sense is it more secure? Doesn't it just set up LVM inside LUKS anyway, like you'd do for a partition?
[07:37] <guiverc> my current install was a partition installation with encryption (artful/17.10; ecryptfs)
[11:06] <fmul> morning. does anybody here know how to tell pulseaudio to use an specific sink as default once and for all?
[11:07] <fmul> setting it in /etc/pulse/default.pa or ~/.config/pulse/*defalt-sink doesn't work neither does disabling the "restore per-app sink" or whatver feature
[11:36] <RonaldsMazitis> hey, I'm amazed I can't run openconnect vpn client on ubuntu without root
[11:37] <RonaldsMazitis> last time I did connect somebody hacked my account
[11:37] <RonaldsMazitis> I creted tun device, created vpnc-script myself
[11:37] <RonaldsMazitis> Failed to bind local tun device (TUNSETIFF): Device or resource busy
[11:38] <RonaldsMazitis> when openconnect -i vpn0
[11:44] <RonaldsMazitis> I can't believe I can't find vpn clients without this flaw
[12:00] <RonaldsMazitis> ?
[12:00] <RonaldsMazitis> so nobody uses vpn client
[12:00] <RonaldsMazitis> I need it for work
[12:00] <RonaldsMazitis> not hiding myself on internet
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> !patience | RonaldsMazitis
[12:08] <Kexoni> hi, I have dualboot. Windows is on SSD, Ubuntu is on hard drive. Is it possible to remove SSD drive with Windows without need to reinstal Ubuntu?
[12:09] <RonaldsMazitis> Kexoni: probably
[12:10] <RonaldsMazitis> Kexoni: google first page could give answer faster
[12:11] <RonaldsMazitis> I just suspect You are using grub loader on regular hdd, so having no windows ssd would just error just if You would load windows obviously
[12:14] <Kexoni> I think that grub is on SSD
[12:14] <Kexoni> SSD is first boot device
[12:15] <RonaldsMazitis> but dude, grub is ubuntu thing
[12:16] <RonaldsMazitis> You can arrange boot devices in menu
[12:17] <EriC^^> Kexoni: are you booted into ubuntu right now?
[12:17] <Kexoni> yes I am EriC^^
[12:18] <EriC^^> Kexoni: type what does 'ls /sys/firmware/efi' give you?
[12:18] <cbreak> efi? legacy boot?
[12:18] <EriC^^> does it say no dir found, or gives a bunch of dirs back?
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:19] <Kexoni> no such file or directory, EriC^^
[12:21] <EriC^^> Kexoni: ok, it means you're using legacy, so probably grub is in the ubuntu mbr, unless you're unlucky and it's in the windows ssd, you could enter the bios and see which disk is set to boot first
[12:22] <EriC^^> Kexoni: actually type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999'
[12:22] <van777> Kexoni: make a USB boot repair disk, remove whatever disk you want, and run boot repair, if it wouldn't boot. https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/files/
[12:24] <RonaldsMazitis> hey I just want to remind I still have to connect to vpn to do my job tasks
[12:24] <RonaldsMazitis> !patience
[12:26] <Kexoni> thanks guys
[12:26] <Kexoni> I will try to backup current Ubuntu files
[12:27] <RonaldsMazitis> I don't think You can loose files by taking out ssd
[12:27] <Kexoni> after this I will remove Windows/SSD, try repair or completely reinstall Ubuntu
[12:27] <EriC^^> Kexoni: you could install ubuntu preemptively to the hdd, run the command i gave to know its disk name to install grub to it
[12:27] <EriC^^> that way even if it turns out to be on the ssd when you remove it you'd still be able to boot into ubuntu easily
[12:28] <Kexoni> ok, just a sec
[12:34] <Kexoni> EriC^^, https://termbin.com/qob9
[12:35] <EriC^^> Kexoni: type 'sudo grub-install --target=i386-pc /dev/sdb'
[12:38] <Kexoni> installation finished EriC^^
[12:40] <EriC^^> Kexoni: ok, run 'sudo update-grub' for good measure and you should be good
[12:43] <Kexoni> thank you a lot EriC^^, I'll try to remove SSD later
[12:43] <RonaldsMazitis> 1 hour later
[12:44] <RonaldsMazitis> any vpn clients for ubuntu that does not run via root
[12:50] <EriC^^> Kexoni: no problem
[12:52] <EriC^^> Kexoni: if it doesnt boot ubuntu, then enter the bios and try to set the hdd first in the boot order
[12:57] <RonaldsMazitis> https://www.infradead.org/openconnect/nonroot.html
[12:58] <RonaldsMazitis> sudo -E /etc/vpnc/vpnc-script this script must be called from vpnc
[12:58] <tomreyn> !who | RonaldsMazitis
[13:02] <RonaldsMazitis> that is speaking to anyone that knows how to use vpn on ubuntu
[13:04] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: so what's your question now that you found the openconnect documentation on how to run it without root?
[13:06] <RonaldsMazitis> the tips they gave to run it without root does not work
[13:06] <RonaldsMazitis> I have tun device made, config made arguments for the terminal command
[13:06] <tomreyn> "does not work" how?
[13:08] <RonaldsMazitis> Failed to bind local tun device (TUNSETIFF): Device or resource busy
[13:09] <tomreyn> what's the commands you were running, on a pastebin if more than 2 lines, and what's the complete output you got?
[13:10] <tomreyn> and did you replace "dwmw2" from the example by the name of your user?
[13:12] <RonaldsMazitis> yeah
[13:12] <RonaldsMazitis> I'm restarting virtualmachine
[13:15] <RonaldsMazitis> openconnect -i vpn0 -s /bin/true vpn.server.
[13:17] <tomreyn> and which software and version is running on your remote vpn endpoint?
[13:18] <tomreyn> and is "Failed to bind local tun device (TUNSETIFF): Device or resource busy" the only output you get when you run the above command?
[13:20] <RonaldsMazitis> I don''t know about endpoint
[13:24] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: then how are you hoping to connect to it using a specific protocol?
[13:26] <RonaldsMazitis> I have bigger problem
[13:26] <RonaldsMazitis> there was no vboxsf group
[13:27] <RonaldsMazitis> so I can't access shared folder
[13:27] <RonaldsMazitis> even thought I created vboxsf group
[13:27] <RonaldsMazitis> and added user to it
[13:29] <cbreak> I've been using wireguard recently. That doesn't even run as root, it runs in the kernel itself :D
[13:31] <tomreyn> i think RonaldsMazitis needs to first understand that you don't normally just install any vpn software and will thus be able to tunnel your traffic through somewhere.
[13:32] <RonaldsMazitis> it works with root
[13:33] <RonaldsMazitis> but after day, my user password got changed
[13:33] <RonaldsMazitis> I changed it back but the account was messed up
[13:33] <RonaldsMazitis> I could log in by pressing on other users
[13:34] <tomreyn> that's way too imprecise to enable anyone to comment.
[13:34] <RonaldsMazitis> and writing down the name
[13:34] <RonaldsMazitis> but when I logged in, I could not use sudo with same password I logged in
[13:35] <tomreyn> also, you're reporting being hacked on a weekly or bi-weekly basis, this is hardly related to realitiy, unless you keep repeating the same mistakes, using weak passwords on internet connected services or known insecure protocols and configurations.
[13:36] <RonaldsMazitis> that was virtulbox so it was not so bad
[13:36] <RonaldsMazitis> but now I'm having problems with it too
[13:37] <RonaldsMazitis> vboxsf group is not apperently used by virtualbox
[13:37] <tomreyn> virtualbox's channel is #vbox
[13:37] <tomreyn> but oly use it if you're using their distribution
[13:38] <tomreyn> but there, too, you won't get far unless you'll share more details.
[13:41] <strk> when the GUI (Desktop) file managers connect to "network resources" (via samba) I don't see an entry in "mount" output, how can I get a mount point for those resources, to do operations from commandline ?
[13:43] <cbreak> strk: well... are they mounted?
[13:43] <cbreak> they might not be, in which case you'll not find a mountpoint
[13:43] <strk> cbreak: I don't think they are mounted
[13:44] <strk> probably the filemanager does it in some other way
[13:45] <strk> my disk is attached to the router, which allows accessing it via SMB or FTP
[13:45] <strk> what's the simplest way to mount it ?
[13:45] <strk> mount.fuse maybe ?
[13:46] <tomreyn> which ubuntu release are you running there?
[13:46] <tomreyn> do you know the smb protocol version?
[13:47] <strk> mount.cifs did it \o/
[13:48] <strk> one day I'll have to find a way to change the filesystem type on that external disk
[13:48] <strk> dunno why on earth I used ext2 :/
[14:15] <pizzaburger> Hi! Is there a workaround for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1871268
[14:47] <cbreak> strk: normally you'd use mount
[14:47] <cbreak> the mount.xxx things are helpers for internal use
[16:04] <shangul> Hello. After a full upgrade of all packages including kernel(apt upgrade), I have a huge RAM usage(2.8G out of ~4.0G) and `top` shows no high RAM usage of any process(all do fine). I also have installed some older kernels(5.4.0-39 and 5.4.0-62) and tried booting the system with them but makes no difference. I also tried disabling a few kernel modules(btrfs, xfs and jfs) which were eating more RAM
[16:04] <shangul> comparing to the other modules and still no luck. xUbuntu 20.04 is used on my laptop. Note that the RAM is not used for buffering and caching but for something else according to what "free" reports.
[16:04] <shangul> Let me know if you need any other information :)
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> shangul: dmesg could be usefull and perhaps also your dpkg logs from the time that thing started to get wrong
[16:20] <DattattaD> ping
[16:20] <Maik> DattattaD: don't
[16:21] <leftyfb> DattattaD: what can we help you with?
[16:21] <Maik> !ask | DattattaD
[16:21] <Maik> :)
[16:22] <Maik> and there's:
[16:22] <Maik> !discuss
[16:22] <Maik> DattattaD: up to you :)
[16:23] <DattattaD> ok
[16:43] <shangul> lotuspsychje: Will look into them. Thank you :)
[16:44] <tomreyn> shangul: a good start may be to just post the output of    free -h    to a pastebin and the link to that here
[16:49] <silv3r_m00n> hi there i am using Kubuntu, when i hover mouse over the taskbar, the respective windows flashes over the current window, anybody knows how to disable this ?
[16:53] <tomreyn> silv3r_m00n: for questions specific to kubuntu, please ask in #kubuntu
[16:54] <tomreyn> (and please don't cross post)
[16:55] <shangul> Output of "free -h" on my computer: https://termbin.com/z93p
[16:55] <agvantibo> Hello. Is it a good idea to write about unique solved issues here?
[16:55] <VMGuy23> tomreyn: Kubuntu is an official flavour
[16:56] <shangul> agvantibo: IMO you'd better write it in a searchable president space like a forum or wiki
[16:57] <shangul> err
[16:57] <agvantibo> Ok. Hello. Is it a good idea to crosspost about unique solved issues here?
[16:57] <shangul> wrong word "president" there. I meant somewhere which data will be kept there not IRC in which messages are lost after you disconnect unless you have a log
[16:59] <agvantibo> I mean yeah, ok. Could you recommend a place and a manner of writing it? My suggestion is Ubuntuforums, and first i describe the issue, then I describe the solution, then I mark as closed
[17:06] <shangul> agvantibo: Wait for others' respond but IMO the wiki is the best place. However the website which you wanna write such a thing in it should have a good SEO too so that people using search engines could find it easily and quickly
[17:12] <agvantibo> That is true
[17:12] <shangul> :)
[18:51] <sybariten> Wild shot here, but anyone ever seen any system tailored to copy data off CDs in an automated manner, when each one is inserted? Well DVDs too
[18:52] <Habbie> sybariten, i've done that for CDs (and also for floppies) - it's really just a few lines of shell
[18:52] <Habbie> especially convenient if your CD drive supports ejection from software
[18:53] <sybariten> Habbie:could be, yes, but it's always even better if someone else already built somehting , which is then also hopefully robust
[18:53] <Habbie> i agree, and in that case i don't know :)
[18:55] <sybariten> OK!  :-)
[18:56] <sybariten> The floppies, you couldnt eject by sofdtware i'm guessing  :)
[19:02] <Habbie> sybariten, nope!
[19:07] <sybariten> That would be futuristic, and archaic, in some paradoxal way
[19:17] <Habbie> sybariten, haha yes
[21:04] <isapgswell> gdm-x-session[992]: (II) modeset(0): Allocate new frame buffer 3840x1080 stride
[21:04] <squealingcode> Afternoon
[21:04] <isapgswell> my external monitor is connected exclusivelly to nvidia
[21:04] <isapgswell> any idea?
[21:04] <isapgswell> not intel
[21:05] <VMGuy23> whats the problem then
[21:05] <isapgswell> modeset(0) is related to intel
[21:05] <isapgswell> kms
[21:06] <VMGuy23> ah
[21:07] <VMGuy23> does the monitor work?
[21:07] <isapgswell> is like intel is trying to allocate new framebuffers to a scenario nvidia handle another output
[21:08] <isapgswell> works, lagged
[21:08] <isapgswell> a lot lag
[21:09] <isapgswell> my notebook has two output typec/hdmi
[21:09] <isapgswell> typec is displayport
[21:09] <isapgswell> but i am connected into nvidia hdmi
[21:09] <isapgswell> my profile is nvidia ondemand
[21:10] <VMGuy23> i don't know how to fix this, someone else should be with you soon.
[21:10] <isapgswell> ok, thanks
[22:16] <Febass> Hello
[22:17] <Febass> I need to ask a question: How do I give my wine system directories permissions to write to my home user desktop
[22:17] <Febass> I am trying to make a short cut of out a program I have isntalled in my program files on my wine machine
[22:19] <oerheks> a shortcut to a wine programm on your ubuntu? this page might be a helphttps://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=33554&p=126701
[22:19] <Febass> Thanks!
[22:19] <oerheks> Exec=env WINEPREFIX="/home/username/.wine" wine C:\\\\Program\\ Files\\\\whatever.exe
[22:20] <oerheks> and username can be shortened with $USER
[22:39] <Febass> oerheks: It is returning a seg fault
[22:39] <Febass> it says that the directory that I have pointing to it as path is not valid, but, it is
[22:39] <VMGuy23> try halfing the backslashes
[22:40] <Febass> The tutorial calls for forward slashes for this specific line, actually
[22:41] <VMGuy23> This is escaping spaces or other backslashes because Windows uses backslashes for paths.
[22:41] <VMGuy23> but it doesnt need to escape the escaper
[22:41] <Febass> hmmm?
[22:42] <Febass> Yeah
[22:42] <VMGuy23> so try halfing the backslashes and see if it works.
[22:42] <Febass> oh I see
[22:43] <VMGuy23> so instead of \\, you have \, and instead of \\\\, you have \\
[22:43] <Febass> Yep that did it
[22:43] <Febass> Thank you
[22:43] <VMGuy23> no problem
[23:40] <joker5bb> hello
[23:41] <joker5bb> how can i cluster the boards so the cpu on other boards that dont have the hdmi connected run a program?
[23:49] <tomreyn> joker5bb: more details needed, including how this related to ubuntu, and which ubuntu exactly.