[11:27] <MASbro> my external usb hub external power supply supplies power to my ex hdd that isnt connected. does this happen to anyone else?
[11:27] <Guest92494> ben i made windows in school not linux as you did
[11:27] <figgycity50> Type sudo apt-get install package apckage package
[11:27] <yeyeman> how can I move a non empty dir?
[11:27] <Guest92494> simple as that
[11:27] <bekks> yeyeman: mv olddir newdir
[11:27] <impaktor_> hitsujiTMO: Ah, I assume I should do it from "/" redoing it now.
[11:28] <Ben64> Guest92494: i don't know what you mean by that
[11:28] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: sorry, that seems to have run it from /root.    cd /; for i in `find . -type d`; do echo `ls -a $i | wc -l` $i; done | sort -n
[11:28] <Ronie> .
[11:28] <Guest92494> yeah ben you dont...and none of these guys either...sheeesh
[11:28] <figgycity50> Bye
[11:29] <Ben64> Guest92494: it's very simple. if you want to use ubuntu, learn how to use it. part of that is sudo
[11:29] <Guest92494> ben there is a posibility of clicky clicky too
[11:29] <Guest92494> so i want to use that at first
[11:29] <Guest92494> now do you uderstand?
[11:29] <hewhomust> Guest92494:  thats still not running as root
[11:29] <Ben64> what is "clicky clicky"
[11:29] <hewhomust> gui
[11:29] <hitsujiTMO> Guest92494: you're not making any sense
[11:30] <Ben64> then use the software center.... which uses sudo behind the scenes for you
[11:30] <k1l_> Guest92494: use software center to isntall programs if you want to use gui
[11:30] <Guest92494> yes i like to install software from gui and normal user doesn't let me
[11:30] <Ben64> you're making it so much more complicated than needed
[11:30] <Guest92494> only root does
[11:30] <k1l_> Guest92494: that is a lie!
[11:30] <hitsujiTMO> Guest92494: use sudo as a normal user
[11:30] <k1l_> Guest92494: seems like you already ruined your system because of running everything with root
[11:30] <Guest92494> k1l you lie not me]
[11:31] <hawt-user> i want connect to machine behind adsl modem through ssh, i have installed openssh listening on 22, port forwarding rule on modem, $ ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ssh: connect to host doitwrong.no-ip.biz port 22: Connection refused
[11:31] <Guest92494> i do not want a flame war so i am leaving...thanks for not helping....so no heaven for you when you will die
[11:31] <k1l_> Guest92494: you can isntall software with software-center as a user. it will ask for your user password t complete install. but you dont need to be root.
[11:31] <hawt-user> nmap says that 22 port is not open..
[11:32] <omri> hawt-user: can you SSH to that machine from your LAN?
[11:32] <hawt-user> omri: yes
[11:32] <Guest92494> no after you provide pass some errors will apear beacause no full prvilegges are met
[11:32] <omri> hawt-user: so my guess is your port forwarding is no good
[11:32] <k1l_> Guest92494: then you have problems on your system already. that is not a standard install then
[11:33] <omri> hawt-user: to make sure, run tcpdump on that interface and see if you see a SYN packet to port 22 when you SSH from the internet
[11:33] <Tom1> K1l_: how do you now if somebody is chatting in irc as root?
[11:33] <Guest92494> k1 i am not installing some services here...i am installing software
[11:33] <moises> Guest92494 what are you trying to install?
[11:33] <Guest92494> so the kit needs privilleges
[11:33] <k1l_> Tom1: do a "/whois Tom1 "
[11:33] <Guest92494> some kits
[11:33] <Guest92494> it doesnt matter
[11:33] <Tom1> in terminal?
[11:34] <k1l_> !details | Guest92494
[11:34] <moises> Guest92494 yes, it matter
[11:34] <Guest92494> no tom by cklick click
[11:34] <hitsujiTMO> Tom1: no in the irc client
[11:34] <Guest92494> it doesnt moises
[11:34] <k1l_> Guest92494: and show those error messages in pastebin
[11:34] <k1l_> Tom1: no in the irc client
[11:34] <Guest92494> it is a kit with drivers for some video card
[11:34] <k1l_> Guest92494: details…
[11:35] <Guest92494> and a kit for som sound card
[11:35] <Guest92494> and a kit for some pic programmer
[11:35] <Guest92494> and other like that
[11:35] <k1l_> some kit?  i got some car, that has some damage and does not work with some error. that doesnt help to help you. give specific details
[11:35] <omri> hawt-user: something like: tcpdump -n 'tcp port 22 and tcp[tcpflags] & tcp-syn != 0'
[11:35] <MASbro> my external usb hub external power supply supplies power to my ex hdd that isnt connected.
[11:35] <k1l_> !details | Guest92494
[11:35] <Guest92494> k1 this is ludacris
[11:35] <Ben64> Guest92494:  those are not details, and you should probably not be installing things like that, i'd imagine doing stuff like that is the source of your problems
[11:36] <Ben64> Guest92494: ubuntu is not like windows, you do not need to scour the internet to find driver packages in the vast majority of circumstances
[11:36] <Guest92494> oh you dont want me to watch tv from linux you dont want me to program p[ics from linux
[11:36] <Guest92494> and of course you dont want me to istall the proper drivers for my video card
[11:36] <Guest92494> is that it?
[11:37] <Ben64> stop arguing with us and explain exactly what you're installing and maybe we can help you
[11:37] <Tom1> Ben64: /whois "name" not giving any reponse, what it does?
[11:37] <k1l_> Guest92494: where is you problem in answering the questions? do you want help? or do you just want to make trouble?
[11:37] <MASbro> ubuntu works out the box
[11:37] <k1l_> Tom1: see in server tab
[11:37] <Guest92494> yes i have to ben if i want everything to work properly
[11:37] <Ben64> Guest92494: you probably do not
[11:37] <Tom1> K1l_: how to see server tab?
[11:38] <Guest92494> hey ben guess what
[11:38] <Ben64> i can watch tv on my tv tuner card, i can have sound, video drivers, all without installing any "kits" or using root at all
[11:38] <k1l_> Guest92494: we could help you to install the video card drivers the right way, if you would only tell which ubuntu, which video card, what errors you get etc.
[11:38] <Guest92494> i have an s3 trio 3d card
[11:38] <Guest92494> i ghave drivers for it but they must be installed
[11:38] <hewhomust> Guest92494, if you want to learn anything you listen to people who are more experienced than you linux is no exception
[11:38] <Guest92494> without asking you guys every time
[11:38] <k1l_> Tom1: see the different chat windows from your irc client
[11:39] <Guest92494> hewh that is what i am doing but come on....if there is a graphical way i want to do it like that
[11:39] <moises> Guest92494 the 1992 video card?
[11:39] <Ronie> .
[11:39] <Guest92494> if freedos would have worked properly i ould have used that
[11:40] <Guest92494> why is it matter moises...probably
[11:40] <Guest92494> is a trio 3d 2x
[11:41] <Guest92494> i dont want to start a nostalgia debate now...i want to be able to use that
[11:41] <Guest92494> ok i am going to install it as root and see what happens
[11:41] <Ben64> then you probably want ubuntu 12.04, its the last release with support for that card
[11:42] <Tom1> Ben64:which ditro are u using?
[11:42] <Guest92494> why do i need support for a card when ihave the drivers for it?
[11:42] <Guest92494> for linux that is
[11:42] <Ben64> Tom1: this is #ubuntu, so ... Ubuntu :)
[11:42] <Guest92494> ?
[11:42] <k1l_> Guest92494: i am loosing my patience now so i will stop trying to help you find the proper way. please listen to advice of the other users, if you ask for help. if you dont want to follow advice stop asking
[11:43] <Ben64> Guest92494: because installing drivers manually can break your system
[11:43] <Guest92494> that is correct ben.. can break
[11:43] <Guest92494> i want to learn the hard way
[11:43] <Guest92494> like i learned in windows
[11:44] <Ben64> well have fun, keep in mind you can't come here to have us help when you break it
[11:44] <Tom1> Ben64: one more question, how to know if someone is ircing as root?
[11:44] <Ben64> or install 12.04 and have it just work
[11:44] <Guest92494> i just reinstall it again
[11:44] <Ben64> Tom1: you've been told this many times already
[11:44] <Guest92494> that is no concern
[11:44] <moises> Guest92494 write a new driver for that video card
[11:44] <moises> it's the hard way
[11:44] <Tom1> Ben64:/whois?
[11:44] <Ben64> Tom1: correct
[11:44] <Guest92494> moises i am not a software god like you so i can not do it
[11:45] <bekks> Guest92494: Then listen tp the people telling you how to do it.
[11:45] <Ben64> Guest92494: which is why you should install 12.04
[11:45] <Guest92494> oh bekks don't tell me i have to rewrite a driver now :)))
[11:45] <Guest92494> tat is hilarious
[11:45] <moises> I was writing the same, bekks
[11:45] <moises> :)
[11:46] <bekks> Guest92494: No. Just stop your windows approach and listen to the people telling you how to do things in linux.
[11:46] <bekks> Guest92494: If you are unwilling to listen - dont ask.
[11:46] <Guest92494> you guys want me to leave the graphical environment foor a cli...you are kiding..or something is definitely with you
[11:47] <Ben64> nobody said that!
[11:47] <Guest92494> i want to use cli when gui just cant help at all
[11:47] <Guest92494> i am not completely against cli
[11:47] <Ben64> nobody ever said to use cli
[11:48] <Guest92494> and beside...you can not explain  commands correclty if i will go with your aproach
[11:48] <Ben64> my approach is to install the version of ubuntu that supports your video card
[11:48] <Ben64> nothing to do with cli vs gui
[11:48] <Guest92494> you will start redisrect me on other sites where i will definitely get lost and oose my interest in linux...i simply do NOT want that
[11:48] <Guest92494> yes there is ben
[11:49] <Ben64> -------------install 12.04-------------
[11:49] <Guest92494> i asked how to do it in gui...you guys try to shove the terminal up my throat
[11:49] <Tom1> Bekks: can someone access the your computer , if ur running as root? wouldn't linux stop him for hacking into the pc? or is it as simple as it is in windows?
[11:49] <Guest92494> well i just can not swallow it
[11:49] <Ben64> i'm done with you, you're making up nonsense
[11:50] <gordonjcp> Guest92494: what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:50] <Guest92494> please ben show me the nonsense..... please
[11:50] <bekks> Tom1: Yes, people can hack you. No, linux does not stop him automagically. It is not as simple as in windows.
[11:51] <bekks> Guest92494: Just read your own backlog.  NOBODY is telling you to use cli. i'm telling you to INSTALL 12.04 IF YOU WANT SUPPORT FOR YOUR ANCIENT VIDEO CARD. end of story!
[11:51] <Guest92494> bekks you are ridiculous
[11:51] <Guest92494> i ask gui installation help you are shoving cli up my throat
[11:52] <Guest92494> and others do the same here
[11:52] <gordonjcp> Guest92494: ask a specific question
[11:52] <k1l_> Guest92494: please stop asking if you dont want to hear answers. state a precise question and people will try to give a precise answer.
[11:52] <Guest92494> just to show how good you are
[11:52] <Guest92494> ok k1
[11:52] <Guest92494> hear this question then
[11:53] <Guest92494> will a root installation from gui login give acces to the normal user to the execution of the software installed as root...logged in as root?
[11:53] <impaktor_> hitsujiTMO: Scrollback history was limited, but here's the result http://pastebin.com/KTEzqzyB
[11:53] <Guest92494> YES or NO
[11:53] <Burrito> YES
[11:53] <k1l_> Guest92494: its easier to give commands that a user should put into a terminal (like this http://i.stack.imgur.com/DlyYM.png )  then to tell him" clikc there and then click the 3rd checkbos there and then click there and click in the 5th collum there....."
[11:54] <Guest92494> that is what i was looking for
[11:54] <Guest92494> thank you
[11:54] <Ben64> Guest92494: you're going to break your system
[11:54] <Ben64> install 12.04
[11:54] <bekks> Guest92494: I am honest, not ridiculous.
[11:54] <Guest92494> we could have spared alot of time
[11:54] <Ben64> Guest92494: what you're trying to do will NOT work
[11:54] <Guest92494> ben i allready installed 12.04
[11:54] <bekks> Guest92494: You dont want to hear answers, so further support of you is a wastte of time for me. Good luck.
[11:54] <Burrito> The conventional method for installing software is using sudo or synaptic-pkexec, not logging in as root.
[11:54] <k1l_> Guest92494: you never answered us what ubuntu you got there
[11:54] <Guest92494> bekks i want to hear the right answers for my problem
[11:54] <Ben64> Guest92494: then the driver is already included, congratulations
[11:55] <Guest92494> not just some answers
[11:55] <k1l_> Guest92494: you just said alot how nonsens we are. so please try to be specific with answers
[11:55] <Ben64> Guest92494: you're question is nonsensical, so you're never going to get the answer you want
[11:55] <Guest92494> ben it is not includen for nvidia cards
[11:55] <Ben64> it actually is included for nvidia cards too
[11:55] <Guest92494> only for s3 probably
[11:55] <Ben64> but you said you have s3
[11:55] <bekks> Guest92494: It is not you who decided whats the right answer, when asking a question.
[11:55] <bekks> *decides
[11:55] <Guest92494> ben i do not have acceleration on my 8600 gs
[11:56] <Guest92494> so that is a lie
[11:56] <k1l_> Guest92494: you said you have a s3 card, not nvidia
[11:56] <Ben64> you said you had an s3!
[11:56] <gordonjcp> 11:54 < Guest92494> will a root installation from gui login give acces to the  normal user to the execution of the software installed as  root...logged in as root?
[11:56] <gordonjcp> Guest92494: yes
[11:56] <gordonjcp> Guest92494: you cannot log into the GUI as root though
[11:56] <Guest92494> it keeps asking me about some proprietary drivers that seems to not want to installl
[11:56] <Ben64> gordonjcp: you should read the full scrollback before answering something like that
[11:56] <Tom1> Guest92494: are you running as root?
[11:56] <Guest92494> gordon i allready logged in as root
[11:56] <bekks> Tom1: Yes he is. Dont do that.
[11:56] <Guest92494> another lie
[11:56] <k1l_> Guest92494: again: we dont know what system you got there. you need to tell us. we cant just guess it
[11:56] <gordonjcp> Guest92494: you can't, unless you've set a root password
[11:57] <gordonjcp> Guest92494: in which case you must wipe the system and reinstall
[11:57] <bekks> gordonjcp: Which is not true. Disabling the root account suffices.
[11:58] <Guest92494> k1 system is ubuntu 12.04 video nvidia 8600gs sound realtek hd audio
[11:58] <Ben64> what happened to your s3 card??
[11:58] <Guest92494> that is sufficient i think
[11:58] <k1l_> Guest92494: so why did you make up the story about a s3 trio card?
[11:58] <bekks> Ben64: It magically changed make and model.
[11:58] <Ben64> smells like troll
[11:59] <Guest92494> i have a lot of old pieces that is why ia want general answers so i do not have to bother you 100 times for one job
[11:59] <gordonjcp> bekks: I disagree, no idea what kind of a mess people blundering around as root have done
[11:59] <Guest92494> that happened to my card ben...i have many types of them
[11:59] <k1l_> Guest92494: so nvidia is supported, even with easy gui install. just go to system settings, updates, and then in the last tab you will see prop. driver installation
[11:59] <gordonjcp> bekks: passwd should be patched so that if it detects anyone setting a password for root, it automatically does dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[11:59] <bekks> Guest92494: And there is no generic approach for every card.
[11:59] <Guest92494> i have an nvidia an ati...2 s3's
[11:59] <bekks> gordonjcp: strong disagree.
[11:59] <Guest92494> and a hercules 3dfx something
[12:00] <gordonjcp> bekks: there is absolutely no reason to have a root password set
[12:00] <k1l_> Guest92494: there is no generic answer to all video card. the ways to handle video cards can be very different. so again: state precise questions to get good answers
[12:00] <Guest92494> and some other sound cards too
[12:00] <Guest92494> ok nvidia 8600 gs
[12:00] <bekks> gordonjcp: No reason at home - an hundreds in business use cases, like cluster intercommunication, etc.
[12:00] <gordonjcp> bekks: nope
[12:00] <Guest92494> lets start with that
[12:00] <bekks> gordonjcp: You never dealt with HA clusters then.
[12:00] <gordonjcp> bekks: have you got a specific example of something that would require a valid root login, that could not be done with sudo?
[12:01] <koell> hi i would like to map the left alt-key to access the third level on keyboard. how to do that?
[12:01] <Guest92494> i download the kit for ubuntu...then what?
[12:01] <k1l_> Guest92377: like i told: system settings, updates , last tab for driver install
[12:01] <gordonjcp> bekks: bear in mind we've had sudo for what, 20 years now?  More even
[12:01] <k1l_> Guest92494: NO!
[12:01] <bekks> gordonjcp: Symantec Veritas Cluster Server intercommunication.
[12:01] <bekks> gordonjcp: Dont discuss about thing you dont know.
[12:01] <k1l_> Guest92494: loading stuff from website is wrong! dont do the windows fails.
[12:01] <gordonjcp> bekks: and why does that need a valid root login?
[12:01] <bekks> gordonjcp: See their docs.
[12:01] <gordonjcp> bekks: more to the point, why does it require such an obsolete concept?
[12:02] <Guest92494> k1 i do not want to be dependent of the internet as aq junkie is dependent on heroine
[12:02] <Guest92494> o dont know how to explain this better
[12:02] <Guest92494> so
[12:02] <Guest92494> that's what i have
[12:02] <k1l_> Guest92494: that is just a bad idea
[12:03] <Guest92494> why?
[12:03] <Guest92494> no internet no hacking
[12:03] <Guest92494> no?
[12:03] <Tom1> Guest92494: type uname -a in terminal and copy and paste the result here on irc.
[12:03] <k1l_> Guest92494: you realise you are in internet now?
[12:03] <Aeo_> hey
[12:04] <k1l_> Guest92494: you did even load the "kit" from a website. so this is just plain trolling of you
[12:04] <Guest92494> yes but i can wipe everything
[12:04] <Guest92494> after this is over
[12:04] <k1l_> Guest92494: dont misuse this channel. this is technical ubuntu support channel. if you dont want to get help dont ask in here. thanks
[12:04] <Tom1> Guest92494: uname -a does not wipes anything, it print abput ur hardware.
[12:04] <k1l_> !guidelines > Guest92494
[12:04] <Aeo_> does anyone have any idea how to mount cifs shares in fstab, with rw to chmod/chown
[12:04] <Guest92494> i want help without sudo
[12:05] <Guest92494> just graphical that is why unity is running by default
[12:05] <Guest92494> i am not misusing anything
[12:05] <k1l_> Guest92494: sudo is the ubuntu way. if you dont like it and dont know what you are actual doing use something different
[12:05] <Guest92494> then why canonical bothered to make unity k1 WHY?
[12:05] <Guest92494> tell me that
[12:05] <k1l_> Guest92494: i told you 3 times how to use the ubuntu-nvidia driver with gui install.
[12:06] <Tom1> Guest92494: u have to use sudo apt-get install to install any drivers and softwares. it different than from windows where u click on exe files.
[12:06] <Guest92494> k1 an tom you talk at once and i cant make any sense of what you say
[12:06] <Aeo_> Guest92494: the only non apt-get way is using .deb packages
[12:06] <k1l_> Guest92494: but you just keep saying how cool you are and how much you know about running as root. that is not the right channel for this behaviour. stop asking if you dont want to hear answers
[12:06] <Aeo_> which is funtionally the same
[12:07] <Aeo_> you want to run as root? DONT Guest92494
[12:07] <Tom1> Guest92494: i mean in ubuntu sudo command works like a backbone, for installing any software or driver u have to use them, just type "sudo apt-get install urpackage name"
[12:08] <Aeo_> Guest92494: sudo is root only for that command
[12:09] <Aeo_> hey Tom1 k1l_ do you guys have any idea how to mount a cifs share in fstab, with uid and gid are provided by AD
[12:09] <Tom1> Aeo: no idea about that.
[12:09] <Tom1> sorry
[12:10] <Ben64> Aeo_: uid and gid provided by AD? whats AD?
[12:11] <Aeo_> Active directory auth against samba Ben64
[12:11] <Ben64> ooh, sorry i don't know
[12:11] <solsTiCe> I had laptop-mode enable and active and after a few sleep mode I was able to plugin my phone ans it was recharging fine so there was some power flowing on BUT I was unable to mount thephone as usb device to look at files
[12:12] <Tom1> Ben64:can i boot mint 14 nadia xfce on a windows 8 laptop which has UEFI ?
[12:12] <Ben64> Aeo_: normal cifs is like --- "//<IP_ADDRESS>/Share /mnt/share          cifs    user=username,pass=password,uid=1000,_netdev  0       0"
[12:12] <Ben64> Tom1: dunno, we don't support mint in this channel
[12:12] <Seveas> Aeo_: check the section'CIFS/NTFS ACL, SID/UID/GID MAPPING, SECURITY DESCRIPTORS
[12:12] <Seveas> Aeo_: check the section 'CIFS/NTFS ACL, SID/UID/GID MAPPING, SECURITY DESCRIPTORS' in the mount.cifs manpage
[12:12] <Tom1> Ben64: sorry for the typing mistake . i mean ubuntu?
[12:13] <Seveas> you'll need winbind and you need to use it via nss
[12:13] <Tom1> Aeo:which distro are you using?
[12:13] <Ben64> Tom1: somehow i doubt that is a typo
[12:13] <Tom1> Ben64: u got me,
[12:13] <Tom1> just asking
[12:13] <Seveas> !mint
[12:14] <Aeo_> Tom1: Ubuntu obv, Seveas Ben64 the uid and gid cant be absolute values, they have to be shareuser cause gid and uid might change due to new ad usersand reorgs
[12:14] <Tom1> Aeo: are you running as root?
[12:15] <Seveas> Aeo_: that's why you use winbind and proper options to mount.cifs. I have never done this myself, but know it is possible.
[12:15] <Aeo_> Tom1: i can create files when running as sudo, not otherwise. The user has perms to access the share
[12:15] <Aeo_> Seveas: i am using winbind
[12:15] <Tom1> Aeo_: ur indents shows that ur running as root?
[12:16] <Aeo_> Tom1: my indents? what do you mean?
[12:16] <Tom1><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:17] <Aeo_> im going through freenode on a windows machine
[12:18] <Tom1> Aeo_: this is ur ip address? <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:19] <k1l_> Tom1: do you have a actual ubuntu technical issue?
[12:19] <Aeo_> Tom1: sadly, yes it is
[12:20] <Tom1> K1l_: i had some technical issues with ubuntu, but i also wanted to know some new things regarding irc and about running as root.
[12:20] <arcsky> anyone know a cli tool for checking if my hdd feels ok?
[12:20] <Tom1> arcsky:fsc can help you.
[12:20] <k1l_> Tom1: you still run as root. stop that irc program and dont start it as root again
[12:20] <Tom1> fsck i mean
[12:21] <k1l_> !smart | arcsky
[12:22] <Tom1> K1l_: get gnome hdd tools to check your harddisks condition.
[12:22] <Tom1> am i right?
[12:22] <Aeo_> arcsky: http://www.justin.my/2011/05/check-linux-hdd-using-smartmontools/ this will display SMART Data
[12:23] <k1l_> Tom1: yes, but the user asked for cli
[12:23] <Aeo_> arcsky: in summation, smartmontools
[12:25] <arcsky> Aeo_: thx
[12:29] <GabrielSOE> Hello Guys: Just created a smaba share - simple one with access to all, but can't access folders in that share??? help.
[12:31] <aeon-ltd> GabrielSOE: describe can't access
[12:33] <GabrielSOE> aeon-ltd: no permission
[12:33] <bekks> GabrielSOE: How did you mount it?
[12:33] <aeon-ltd> GabrielSOE: are you giving access to a /home ?
[12:33] <sandman13> is it possible to import compiz settings of unity to xfce4?
[12:34] <GabrielSOE> aeon-ltd: To Videos folder
[12:35] <aeon-ltd> GabrielSOE: try restarting the server if you made any changes
[12:35] <GabrielSOE> aeon-ltd: The folder is an old one no changes were made. but will restart now
[12:36] <maciekish> Hello, I have a quick question. Is it possible to install Ubuntu 13.10 to an *existing* btrfs root with some data on it, while retaining that data?
[12:36] <aeon-ltd> GabrielSOE: i'm going soon, but if no one has a quick solution. post your config to something like pastebin and have someone read over it
[12:37] <maciekish> Say btrfs is split over two drives, and it only contains one folder /data, can i install Ubuntu to that and boot from there while retaining /data?
[12:38] <Aeo_> GabrielSOE: samba, my speciality
[12:38] <Aeo_> did you all your user to the valid users in the smb.conf
[12:39] <GabrielSOE> Aeo_: Could not display “”.The file is of an unknown type, and Yes
[12:39] <Aeo_> GabrielSOE: and hows it mounted on the local machine
[12:40] <GabrielSOE> Aeo_: it is part of my home folder
[12:40] <Aeo_> GabrielSOE: whats the remote machine? linux?
[12:40] <GabrielSOE> Aeo_: Ubuntu 13.10
[12:41] <Aeo_> GabrielSOE: you want to mount in fstab
[12:42] <Aeo_> ?
[12:42] <GabrielSOE> Aeo_: Never had problems, even without fstab, just after the upgrade...
[12:42] <GabrielSOE> Aeo_: last night. Upgraded the host
[12:43] <Aeo_> hmm, check your users list
[12:43] <Aeo_> and add the uid and gid lines on your fstab
[12:45] <Aeo_> on host, do a id -u and -g to get those values, then specify those in the fstab line, along with 0777 ofr file_ and dir_mode
[12:45] <wily> hi all
[12:45] <wily> i've a big problem mounting 64 gb samsung microsd
[12:46] <wily>  exited wih  non zero exit status
[12:46] <Aeo_> wily: do a fsck
[12:46] <wily> a similiar error message blocks mount
[12:46] <GabrielSOE> Aeo_: [Videos]
[12:46] <GabrielSOE>     comment = Ubuntu File Server Share
[12:46] <GabrielSOE>     path = /home/gabriel/Videos
[12:46] <GabrielSOE>     browsable = yes
[12:46] <GabrielSOE>     guest ok = yes
[12:46] <GabrielSOE>     read only = no
[12:46] <GabrielSOE>     create mask = 0700
[12:47] <Aeo_> GabrielSOE: pastebin it please
[12:47] <GabrielSOE> Aeo_: pastebin ???
[12:47] <Aeo_> GabrielSOE: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:48] <wily> aeo is a well know problem
[12:48] <wily> but i've not a solution
[12:51] <monadist> does anyone here use an iphone?
[12:53] <wily> can someone help me please?
[12:53] <wily> 64gb samsung microsd don't want to be mounted on ubuntu
[12:54] <bekks> Define "dont want".
[12:54] <maciekish> ZFS vs btrfs on a big 4 x 3TB array?
[12:54] <wily> exited wih  non zero exit status
[12:54] <wily> a similare error bekks
[12:55] <bekks> !details | wily
[12:55] <wily> ok
[12:56] <wily> i'm using ubuntu 13.10
[12:56] <bekks> wily: And fill in the given sentences please.
[12:56] <wily> i want to mount sdhc 64gm samsung micorsd
[12:57] <wily> and error is error mounting .............. extfat -o .............. exited wih  non zero exit status 32 unknow filesystem type "exfat"
[12:58] <wily> here is all bekks
[12:58] <sandman13> is it possible to import compiz settings of unity to xfce4?
[12:58] <hitsujiTMO> sandman13: that would turn it into unity
[12:59] <sandman13> hitsujiTMO not all but few
[13:00] <hitsujiTMO> sandman13: if ccsm has an export/import functionality then you could try doing so with that
[13:00] <sandman13> ccsm? hitsujiTMO
[13:01] <OerHeks> wily To install exfat on Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install exfat-utils ( and do some mount stuff )>> http://askubuntu.com/a/370560
[13:01] <hitsujiTMO> sandman13: compiz config settings manager
[13:01] <sandman13> hitsujiTMO: if i install compiz on xfce4 will that affect the unity?
[13:02] <OerHeks> compiz on xfce4, interesting
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> sandman13: s/affect/effect        if you have unity installed then yes it most likely will effect it
[13:03] <hawt-user> can u suggest me teamviewer like i need remote desktop without knowing any static ips or dynamic dns mojos(already tried noip with ddsclient but my adsl modem cant do port forwarding   )
[13:04] <hawt-user> ddclient*
[13:04] <OerHeks> hawt-user, there is an ubuntu client, http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> hawt-user: maybe try ... teamviewer  ?
[13:05] <OerHeks> but do you trust teamviewer-service?
[13:06] <grml84> hi
[13:06] <hawt-user> teamviewer crashes ..
[13:06] <hawt-user> i need something native
[13:08] <OerHeks> hawt-user, without altering your router/portforwarding config, there is only teamviewer abailable tru port 80
[13:24] <JaneSmith> hello, how can i make the sudo remain activated on one terminal instance (not request the passwd every n minutes)?
[13:25] <hitsujiTMO> JaneSmith: you don't that's a security risk
[13:26] <Joostt> Hello. I have my own dedicated server and an always on ubuntu machine at my home. My home has a static ip. I am looking for reliable software that could backup my dedicated server to my home.
[13:26] <Joostt> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[13:27] <JaneSmith> hitsujiTMO i decide how i manage 'risks' can you please point me to the configuration file where i could set that option?
[13:27] <hitsujiTMO> Joostt: man rsync && man cron
[13:27] <k1l_> JaneSmith: i dont think you can do that for one terminal. you could deactivate sudo pw for one user or make the timeframe longer until next pw is needed. but i think the presets are quite good mix of security and lazyness
[13:28] <JaneSmith> i don't want to deactivate it at user level, that is a risk i won't take
[13:28] <hitsujiTMO> JaneSmith: you would need to set the timestamp in the sudoers file
[13:29] <k1l_> JaneSmith: as i said: i dont think that is possible for only one terminal
[13:29] <gordonjcp> yeah, you can't do that for only one terminal
[13:29] <gordonjcp> JaneSmith: what exactly are you trying to do?
[13:30] <k1l_> JaneSmith: that sounds like a workaround for another problem. maybe there is another way for a solution
[13:30] <hitsujiTMO> JaneSmith: man sudoers        look at the timestamp_timeout ... """ This can be used to allow users to create or delete their own time stamps via “sudo -v” and “sudo -k” respectively."""
[13:31] <JaneSmith> hitsujiTMO thx, i'll look at that now
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> JaneSmith: why would you want to modify the timestamp tho?
[13:36] <gordonjcp> JaneSmith: having a terminal logged in as root is pretty much always the wrong way to do stuff
[13:37] <luka_> http://xdcc_CANCEL_X1387895414
[13:41] <John_John_> when i ping my vmware guest ubuntu from my host mac with the IP address its ok but i can't ping it with its machine name. how can i fix this ?
[13:42] <Seveas> John_John_: either set up a DNS server and add the name to an internal zonefile. Or quick and dirty with /etc/hosts
[13:46] <mrdeb> hi is ubuntu 14.04 using compiz or something better
[13:47] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | mrdeb
[13:47] <mrdeb> yes or no
[13:47] <hitsujiTMO> mrdeb: don't know, ask the guys using it
[13:48] <mrdeb> figures
[13:48] <John_John_> Seveas: can you tell me exactly how with /etc/hosts ?
[13:49] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: add a line in /etc/hosts: ip.of.that.machine nameofmachine
[13:49] <Guest54584> hi
[13:52] <John_John_> thanks. in my host machine right ?
[13:53] <jerrino77> hello
[13:55] <tilppis> is DPS for radeon cards enabled by default in 14.04?
[13:57] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | tilppis
[13:59] <Maaz> !hacking
[13:59] <John_John_> i did it thanks!
[13:59] <researcher123> is there a duplicate file finder in Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:01] <hitsujiTMO> researcher123: fdupes
[14:01] <mrdeb> hitsujiTMO: no one answers
[14:01] <researcher123> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[14:02] <hitsujiTMO> mrdeb: be patient. not many 14.04 users
[14:02] <mrdeb> bad
[14:04] <Akima> Hi.  Any idea why Firefox 27.0 isn't out for Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:04] <hitsujiTMO> !latest | akima
[14:05] <Akima> hitsujiTMO: There's quite a few security vulnerabilities fixed in v27.0. https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox.html
[14:07] <Akima> I was suprised to just apt-get update and not have the latest available.  Canonical have been providing the latest Firefox version for a while now to Ubuntu 12.04
[14:07] <mrdeb> it will be a few days
[14:07] <hitsujiTMO> Akima: 27 is still in proposed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox
[14:07] <pamparamp> Hello
[14:07] <pamparamp> any know how good ubuntu crypting /home directory?.
[14:08] <hitsujiTMO> pamparamp: pretty good since if anything goes wrong noone so far has been able to recover their files
[14:10] <pamparamp> hitsujiTMO: but if i select this option user passwrd = passwprd to ecrypt?
[14:12] <Akima> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[14:12] <pamparamp> police can  hack it?
[14:12] <researcher123> does anyone know a duplicate file finder with a GUI
[14:12] <Akima> researcher123: meld
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> pamparamp: thats the norm. some peeps run into issues if they try to change their password and forget to change their ecrypt password tho. its just something to be careful with, but otherwise there's not many issues
[14:12] <Akima> it is in the software center
[14:13] <Akima> researcher123: you can compare 2 directories and see the differences
[14:13] <researcher123> Akima: I want to compare files
[14:14] <Akima> researcher123: it does that. It might not be what you need.  Check out the home page for the software: http://meldmerge.org/
[14:18] <Munster> hello
[14:21] <Mace268> !w gey
[14:22] <Mace268> oops wrong window
[14:31] <John_John_> strange, i changed documentroot and restarted apache in ubuntu 12.04 but it keeps pointing to the default. any ideas ?
[14:33] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: what exactly did you change?
[14:34] <John_John_> apache2.conf and httpd.conf but apparently the right one is this : sudo gedit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default    let me try that now!
[14:35] <k1l_> John_John_: don trun sudo with gui programs
[14:35] <k1l_> John_John_: that will cause problems, run gksudo instead
[14:37] <John_John_> ok i fixed my problem. what is the difference between sudo and gksudo ?
[14:38] <John_John_> what problems are caused ?
[14:38] <John_John_> i am new to linux world!
[14:39] <k1l_> John_John_: suod does not set the variables (like which user, what language, what home directory) the right way when launched with gui apps. use gksudo with that. sudo is fine for apps that run only in terminal
[14:39] <someHuman> Hello!
[14:40] <John_John_> and if you know, how do i give permissions to run phpmyadmin from my host/remote computer ? now it's forbidden!
[14:40] <someHuman> What's the desktop keyboard hotkey?
[14:40] <k1l_> John_John_: sorry, i dont know what you mean
[14:40] <someHuman> I just got into Ubuntu, how do I make myself safe with it? I have heard numerous complaints about this distro.
[14:40] <k1l_> someHuman: the windows button? names super-key
[14:41] <someHuman> Ah no, I was asking for the keyboard shortcut for desktop.
[14:41] <k1l_> someHuman: it is safe. if you have specific concerns ask in here
[14:41] <k1l_> someHuman: which keyboard shortcut? press long time super-key to see a shortcut listin
[14:41] <k1l_> g
[14:41] <someHuman> Well what I want my distro to do is act as it is really mine. No one's gonna slip through my PC.
[14:42] <gordonjcp> someHuman: avoid eating your Ubuntu install media, that is not safe. It is not a tasty snack.
[14:42] <someHuman> gordonjcp: Huh?
[14:42] <someHuman> I don't see any desktop shortcut in the dash list.
[14:42] <JaneSmith> John_John_  To allow sudo to start graphical application in X11, you need to add: Defaults env_keep += "HOME" to visudo
[14:43] <someHuman> By shortcut I mean, keyboard desktop shortcut.
[14:43] <k1l_> ?
[14:43] <John_John_> i have set up ubuntu as a lamp server so i can run http://localhost/phpmyadmin from the ubuntu browser. now i when i run this on my host machine it says it's forbidden. i have ubuntu on vmware on my mac.
[14:44] <someHuman> Sorry I accidentally closed my window. Can you repeat what you said?
[14:44] <k1l_> someHuman: press long time and hold the windows key and you will see that: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Ubuntu_Unity_Keyboard_shortcuts_-_En.png
[14:45] <k1l_> someHuman: if you want something other please rephrase your question
[14:46] <someHuman> I want to use a keyboard shortcut for showing desktop.
[14:46] <someHuman> Instead of using clicking icons.
[14:46] <someHuman> Which is supplied under Settings->Appearance.
[14:46] <BlueShark> Hello.
[14:47] <BlueShark> I recently upgraded my VPS to 13.10 and I'm now getting the error "Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80" when I try to restart Apache. What could be the reason?
[14:47] <k1l_> someHuman: crtl+super+d
[14:47] <gordonjcp> someHuman: have a look in the keyboard shortcuts settings
[14:48] <BlueShark> I did `netstat -lnp | grep :80` to check if there are any other processes running but that didn't output anything.
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> BlueShark: how are you starting apache?
[14:48] <BlueShark> hitsujiTMO, sudo service apache2 start
[14:48] <mrrcp> hey in terminal how can i change the timezone and make it stick with ntp
[14:48] <mrrcp> ?
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> BlueShark: and whats the output of apt-cache policy apache2
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> mrrcp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> mrrcp: ntp has nothing to do with timezone
[14:50] <BlueShark> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6897446/
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> BlueShark: have you updated your configs to be compatible with 2.4  .... previous ubuntus ran apache 2.2 and there are numerous changes to how the configs are done
[14:51] <mrrcp> ok
[14:51] <mrrcp> hitsujiTMO: that will stick during reboot?
[14:51] <someHuman> k1l_: Ah yes thanks!
[14:51] <mrrcp> 1 other question how do i get it off of utc
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> mrrcp: yup. if it doesn't then you have something major wrong with your system
[14:51] <someHuman> Also I wanna use my drivers.
[14:51] <BlueShark> hitsujiTMO, not sure if I did *everything*, but I did all the steps mentioned in this thread: http://askubuntu.com/a/362992/
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> mrrcp: utc is a timezone
[14:52] <someHuman> How do I use it?
[14:52] <k1l_> someHuman: what drivers?
[14:52] <k1l_> !details | someHuman
[14:52] <someHuman> Yeah sorry about that.
[14:52] <someHuman> I'd like to use my graphic drivers.
[14:52] <mrrcp> oops
[14:52] <mrrcp> its working !
[14:52] <mrrcp> thanks
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> mrrcp: if you want to keep your time synced you can use: ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com              in a cronjob
[14:53] <someHuman> Hello?
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> someHuman: you're not making sense. if you can see something on the screen then you are using a graphics driver
[14:54] <k1l_> someHuman: that depends heavyly on the ubuntu version, on the video card,..... so please state as many details as possible
[14:54] <someHuman> Oh ok sorry.
[14:54] <maysara> Hi, I'm trying to install MATLAB following these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB but when I excute this command "sudo /media/MATHWORKS_R2012A/install -v" it says "command not found". What is the problem here?
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> someHuman: do you want to use the proprietary driver for your gpu?
[14:54] <someHuman> I believe I am running the free driver, I'd like to use my graphic card to it's full potential.
[14:55] <someHuman> Yes, I like better graphics.
[14:55] <hitsujiTMO> someHuman: what gpu do you have?
[14:55] <k1l_> someHuman: as more details you give, as faster we can help you: which ubuntu exactly? which video card? ,.....
[14:57] <someHuman> I am running 13.04
[14:57] <someHuman> I have Radeon Graphics.
[14:57] <hitsujiTMO> someHuman: thats end of life. you need to upgrade to be able to install anything
[14:57] <someHuman> Okok.
[14:57] <k1l_> someHuman: congrats. that is right out of support. please upgrade t 13.10 first. then we think about other suff
[14:57] <moises> someHuman, in amd site
[14:57] <someHuman> Yeah am already actually upgrading my system because I got the Raring copy.
[14:58] <moises> there are a device driver for your video card
[14:58] <k1l_> moises: nope. dont load stuff from websites when there is the ubuntu repo
[14:58] <hitsujiTMO> someHuman: also the open drivers are better than the closed drivers for ati cards for most things
[14:58] <someHuman> hitsujiTMO: Why?
[14:58] <someHuman> i just want better graphics lol.
[14:58] <moises> k1l_, i prefer to download the driver from amd site
[14:58] <hitsujiTMO> someHuman: 2d acceleration sucks in the fglrx driver
[14:59] <mapps> hi folks
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> moises: doing so is unsupported
[14:59] <k1l_> someHuman: the manufacturers dont give that good drivers for linux as for windows. the free driver is quite good for amd, acutally
[14:59] <someHuman> For example I play Dota 2 in Steam, it has sucky graphics and whenever I propritary it's better but it screws up my system such as not being able to show atleast the sidebar menu.
[14:59] <moises> diablo 3 (in my computer) runs better with propietary driver
[14:59] <k1l_> moises: you prefer it, right. but the official ubuntu way is to use the ubuntu driver.
[14:59] <mapps> im struggling with squidguard - if i install from source it installs squid3 although i already have squid on - is it possible to install from a repo - some kind of depenency?
[14:59] <moises> ok k1l_
[14:59] <someHuman> Hmm
[14:59] <someHuman> Have anyone used Manjaro here?
[15:00] <someHuman> That showcases a decent graphics for Dota 2.
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> moises: i said "most" things work better. not everything
[15:00] <someHuman> If I am to use free driver I'd like to atleast have the same quality as of that from Manjaro.
[15:00] <moises> hitsujiTMO yes :)
[15:01] <k1l_> someHuman: first get the 13.10 upgrade. then you can install the fglrx package which brings you the amd driver from ubuntu support
[15:01] <hitsujiTMO> someHuman: manjaro isn't supported here. its just another flavour of linux. You'll get similar experience in ubuntu
[15:02] <fortysixandtwo> Hi! I have a strange problem. All the sudden some of my files seems to be binary, but they are not.. Some of them are javascript files. Any idea what could have happened?
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: whats the output of: file filename
[15:03] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: how do they appear binary?
[15:03] <fortysixandtwo> config.js: data
[15:03] <JaneSmith> hitsujiTMO env_reset is used every time i run sudo?
[15:04] <fortysixandtwo> Nano tells me "file appears to be binary.. edit anyway?"
[15:04] <fortysixandtwo> hitsujiTMO: file config.js says "data"
[15:04] <hitsujiTMO> JaneSmith: yup. you are changing environment for the sudo command
[15:05] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: would you mind sharing the file?
[15:05] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: hmmm, should be ASCII text
[15:06] <fortysixandtwo> Seveas: I can share another file.. which doesn't have database passwords.. just a simple .sh file
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: what editors have you been using with the files?
[15:06] <fortysixandtwo> nano/vim
[15:06] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: that's only useful if that's affected with the same problem
[15:06] <fortysixandtwo> Seveas: It is
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: please share that if it has the same output with file
[15:07] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: could you upload it somewhere?
[15:07] <Seveas> or zip it up and mail the zip to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:07] <Seveas> (the zipping is to preserve it properly, I have a hunch and if I'm correct mail will maingle it further)
[15:08] <fortysixandtwo> Seveas: Thanks.. doing it now. Btw. you know any file sharing services? Like imgur for files
[15:09] <ostezer> hiya. What does "UTS" (as in namespaces) stand for?
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: https://www.wetransfer.com/
[15:09] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: dropbox?
[15:09] <fortysixandtwo> Thanks.
[15:09] <Seveas> I have my own server, so rarely need that :)
[15:09] <fortysixandtwo> Damn, even my nginx.conf has the same issue
[15:10] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: what filesystem is this?
[15:10] <Bombo> hi, i booted ubuntu in recovery mode, but i'm not allowed to write to / (/dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro))
[15:11] <Seveas> Bombo: are you root?
[15:11] <Seveas> Bombo: and what error do you get?
[15:11] <fortysixandtwo> hitsujiTMO: ext4 i think
[15:11] <hitsujiTMO> Bombo: start by telling us why you are in recovery mode
[15:12] <Bombo> Seveas: root@ubuntu:/etc$ touch foo
[15:12] <Bombo> touch: cannot touch `foo': Read-only file system
[15:12] <Seveas> Bombo: ok, so the filesystem has errors and has been remounted read-only
[15:12] <fortysixandtwo> Seveas: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2827003/starter.sh.zip
[15:12] <Seveas> Bombo: what does dmesg say?
[15:13] <Bombo> hitsujiTMO: as soon as nvidia modul loads i can't use the machine anymore. so i plan to remove it in recovery mode.
[15:13] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: wow, that's utterly messed up
[15:13] <fortysixandtwo> Seveas: Yes.. it seems like the whole disk is messed up..
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: theres no file there only metadata
[15:14] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: the file is basically nothing but a bunch of 0 bytes, there's also a __MACOSX folder in there which makes me think you're not actually on Ubuntu...
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: did someone delete the files? thats osx metadata
[15:14] <fortysixandtwo> Seveas: Downloaded it and zipped on mac
[15:15] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: ah
[15:15] <newb> I am booting ubuntu from usb stick; however, any window that I open fails to render its graphics correctly. It's all jumbled. Does anyone have a sense for what might be causing it and how to fix it?
[15:15] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: try that on Ubuntu first: tar zcvf problem.tar.gz /path/to/problem/file
[15:15] <Seveas> and mail the tar.gz
[15:15] <Seveas> or upload :)
[15:15] <fortysixandtwo> Ok, 1 sec
[15:15] <Bombo> Seveas: EXT4-fs (sda1): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem, EXT4-fs (sda1): write access will be enabled during recovery, EXT4-fs (sda1): recovery complete, EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> newb: what gpu do you have?
[15:16] <Seveas> Bombo: ok, so recovery complete. You can mount it rw: sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[15:17] <fortysixandtwo> Seveas: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2827003/starter.tar.gz
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> Bombo: can you pastebin the output of dmesg       and the contents of /var/log/syslog
[15:17] <newb> hitsujiTMO, I have two radeon 7950 GPUs currently connected to a Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P Motherboard.
[15:17] <Bombo> Seveas: oh, that simple, worked ;)
[15:18] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: ok, still just a bunch of 0-bytes. Either someone has hacked your computer and is mangling all the files, or your disk is dying and you should back up as much as you can *right now*
[15:18] <loa> i love all ubuntu community <3
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> newb: what version of ubuntu?
[15:18] <Bombo> hitsujiTMO: about nvidia?
[15:18] <loa> my system is so stable ><
[15:18] <mib_mib> hi guys - when i use 'top' and sort by memory usage, it shows mysql is using 5.5% of memory, another process is using .7 %, and then a lot of 0%'s of memory - however, when i look at the Mem: it looks like Mem:  132005748k total, 59753076k used, 72252672k free - do i have more free than this actually? or why does it show so much is used
[15:19] <hitsujiTMO> Bombo: your system was mounted readonly for a reason. may have issues with a failing hdd. syslog or dmesg will contain info about such an issue if it is the case
[15:19] <Seveas> hitsujiTMO: read up, he pasted dmesg output :)
[15:19] <loa> mib_mib, there is another param
[15:20] <loa> it is called "cached"
[15:20] <newb> hitsujiTMO, I have Ubuntu-13.10 desktop amd 64. I am trying ubunto after having tried xumbutu. While I was successful booting to Xumbutu without any graphics problems, I could not get the internet connection to work. I tried both the Lan cable and wireless connection without success. I am hopeful ubuntu will enable me to connect to the internet.
[15:20] <loa> look at output of command # free
[15:20] <mib_mib> loa: but thats under the 'swap' row
[15:20] <hitsujiTMO> Seveas: ahh sorry :P
[15:20] <Bombo> hitsujiTMO: nope, probably just because it freezes when nvidia module is loaded/x is started, nothing works then, just hardware reboot button
[15:21] <mijk> hi
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> Bombo: ahh kk, you should be fine then
[15:21] <loa> mib_mib, it is not swap row, you have problems with output )
[15:21] <Bombo> i see many of these in syslog/dmesg: "NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 6, PE007e 0200 000000f3 00000000 00000000 00000000"
[15:21] <mijk> anyone have luck installing Ubuntu onto a Mid-2013 MacBook Air?
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> newb: 7k series isn't fully supported by the open driver atm. maybe try installing fglrx
[15:22] <mib_mib> loa: Mem:  132005748k total, 59771428k used, 72234320k free,   202364k buffers Swap:  4192188k total,        0k used,  4192188k free, 48756524k cached
[15:23] <Bombo> and i see watchdog taking ~100% when i managed to login via ssh, nothing more works
[15:23] <mib_mib> loa: looks like its in the 'swap' row to me....
[15:23] <mib_mib> loa: Mem:           125         57         68          0          0         46
[15:23] <fortysixandtwo> Okey... even stranger: "cat /var/log/auth.log" shows text, "less /var/log/auth.log" --> "/var/log/auth.log" may be a binary file.  See it anyway?
[15:23] <newb> hitsujiTMO: How can I do that install if the video output is not legible?
[15:24] <hitsujiTMO> newb: install fglrx from command line
[15:25] <loa> mib_mib, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screen.png
[15:25] <TJ-> Bombo: show us "lspci -nn | -s 01:00.0"
[15:25] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I know how to access a terminal connection in xubuntu and write commands there, but I do not know how to install fglrx from command line while booting ubuntu from my usb stick while the graphic output is not rendering correctly.
[15:26] <Bombo> i got /lib/modules/3.5.0-40-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_current.ko now will /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf 'blacklist nvidia_current' be enough to not load it when booting up? in lsmod i just see 'nvidia'
[15:27] <Bombo> TJ-: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 8800 GTS 512] (rev a2)
[15:27] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ctrl + alt + f1 to get a cli
[15:27] <Bombo> TJ-: $ lspci -nn -s 01:00.0
[15:27] <Bombo> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 8800 GTS 512] [10de:0600] (rev a2)
[15:28] <TJ-> Bombo: which Ubuntu version "cat /etc/issue" ?
[15:28] <Bombo> TJ-: Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[15:28] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Thank you. I will try that. Would the command read, "sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates"?
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> newb: don't use fglrx-updates
[15:29] <Bombo> TJ-: $ uname -a -> Linux ubuntu 3.5.0-40-generic #62-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 22 00:55:19 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> newb: just: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[15:30] <Bombo> found /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf hmm
[15:30] <TJ-> Bombo: There's a possible workaround in comment #7 of bug #694611
[15:34] <Bombo> TJ-: hmkay i'll try to blacklist the driver first, so i'm able to boot without recovery mode again
[15:36] <Bombo> 'update-rc.d -f lightdm remove' is this the right way to not start xorg anyways?
[15:36] <hitsujiTMO> Bombo: boot with kernel option "text"
[15:36] <hitsujiTMO> !text | Bombo
[15:38] <Spindel> What should I do if I want to give someone access to mysql over ssh? Only mysql, and no other things
[15:39] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I successfully entered command line and entered the installation command. 0 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. err could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com'. If I could connect to the internet, I'd be happy. It's my inability to connect to the internet in xubuntu that made me look at ubuntu.
[15:40] <cryptexus> Spindel: something like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restricted_shell
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> newb: xubuntu + ubuntu are pretty much the same OS under the hood so you will run into same sort of hardware issues. what way are you connection to the net? wired or wireless?
[15:42] <okinawa> hi
[15:43] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I have tried a lan cable and I have tried wireless. Having no previous experience with linux, I'm not convinced I am trying it correctly. When opening firefox in xubuntu, I get server cannot be found.
[15:43] <okinawa> Someone speek french ?
[15:43] <cryptexus> okinawa: yes
[15:43] <spearhead> !fr | okinawa
[15:44] <okinawa> j'ai un problème de connexion avec mon Pc
[15:44] <okinawa> ok the
[15:44] <mapps> he has problem with connection
[15:44] <mapps> ;]
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> Spindel: set /usr/bin/mysql as the users shell
[15:45] <okinawa> ok gonna do that
[15:45] <mapps> hi guys could someone lend a hand with
[15:45] <mapps> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6897738/
[15:45] <mapps> many thanks :)
[15:46] <Spindel> hitsujiTMO: thats sounds like a good idea
[15:46] <spearhead> mapps, I don't see any errors...
[15:46] <mapps> mmf
[15:46] <mapps> sec
[15:46] <mapps> sorry
[15:46] <mapps> it didnt paste it
[15:47] <Spindel> hitsujiTMO: Btw, does that restrict sftp too?
[15:47] <Spindel> hitsujiTMO: Bc I dont whant him to use sftp
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> Spindel: ashouldn't
[15:47] <mapps> spearhead,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6897761/ thats qwhat i get now - installing squidguards from the repos
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> Spindel: restricting sftp would have to be done in the sshd config
[15:48] <newb> hitsujiTMO: could it be that my hardware is just not right for linux? Or is it more likely that I just need to configure linux correctly for my hardware?
[15:48] <hitsujiTMO> newb: depends. what hardware do you have?
[15:48] <Spindel> hitsujiTMO: Sure... So changing to mysql shell and restrict in sftp it will be no security concerns after that?
[15:48] <Spindel> hitsujiTMO: he will only access mysql?
[15:49] <mapps> i installed from source and couldnt get it to work it failed when running squidguard -c all so i went to the repos and im getting stuck with that
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> Spindel: cant think of any. just tested using su ans exiting mysql logged out the user
[15:50] <Spindel> hitsujiTMO: Ok, will try, thanks for help! :)
[15:50] <spearhead> mapps, have you tried installing with sudo apt-get install squidguard
[15:51] <mapps> hey spearhead  yea thats what i was trying when i first got this chown errors so i went to packages and got just the squidguard package..same error
[15:53] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I have a gigabyte GA-970A-D3P motherboard. Do you need more information that that?
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> newb: lspci -nn | grep Ethernet | grep -o '\[....:....\]'
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> newb: output of that would be perfect
[15:54] <lusy> hello
[15:55] <lusy> with ubuntu 12:04 I can not see a movie, it tells me active java (TM) what should I do?
[15:55] <TJ-> mapps: spearhead There's a bug in the update-squidguard post-install script; fixed in Debian/Trusty
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> !java | lusy
[15:55] <Encieux> hi there, having a strange permission issue when downloading. i have nas mounted via cifs to 12.04 server. everytime i start downloading something i get write permission denied. i have to manually do "sudo chown -R user /media/downloads" to get it to start.
[15:55] <spearhead> TJ, is there a way to get around that?
[15:56] <mapps> ahh TJ-  thanjs what can i do for now?
[15:56] <mapps> yea
[15:57] <lusy> hitsujiTMO,    classnotfoundexception----liveApplet.class
[15:57] <TJ-> mapps: spearhead checking the source package now
[15:57] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I typed into command the entire line lspci -nn | grep Ethernet | grep -o '\[....:....\]' and nothing output.
[15:57] <mapps> thanks .would it be better if i tried from the source?
[15:57] <someHuman> Where are executables found?
[15:57] <hitsujiTMO> lusy: the site itself is broken then
  ok
[15:58] <hitsujiTMO> newb: try: lspci -nn | grep Network | grep -o '\[....:....\]'
[15:58] <someHuman> How do I make my custom keyboard shortcuts for executables?
[15:59] <lusy> hitsujiTMO, ok thanks
[16:00] <TJ-> mapps: Are you OK with doing some terminal magic to find the script and fix it?
[16:01] <spearhead> someHuman, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/assign-custom-shortcut-keys-on-ubuntu-linux/
[16:01] <mapps> with a bit of guidance possibly
[16:01] <mapps> check the post install file? then look for the script?
[16:01] <spearhead> someHuman, to get it to run a specific program you just type the program name where he puts in his script
[16:02] <newb> hitsujiTMO: again, nothing... when I type these commands there is no output and the command prompt refreshes.
[16:03] <mapps> TJ-,  is that what i need to do - you got a link with more details abou the bug or anything so i could read it the bug info and maybe fix it here
[16:03] <TJ-> mapps: We need to find the the file first. "sudo find /var/lib/dpkg -type f -name update-squidguard"
[16:03] <astroduck> Hi! I accidently did rm -r * in my home folder, Is there any way to recover the files? All hidden files are still there, I just lost all visiblefiles
[16:03] <TJ-> mapps: I don't see a bug-report, I've figured it out from reading the source-code
[16:03] <spearhead> someHuman, on second thought that might only be for gnome, I am looking into it for unity
[16:03] <someHuman> Loo
[16:03] <someHuman> Lol*
[16:04] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ok. gonna need the complete output of: lspci -knn                    you can dump it to a file with: lspci -knn > ~/lspci            also do: lsusb > ~/lsusb                           then copy those to a usb and pastebin it from another machine if you can
[16:05] <z0ran> astroduck: i dont think you can recover them
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> astroduck: you'd have to use photorec or similar software
[16:05] <spearhead> someHuman, I think this will work for unity http://askubuntu.com/questions/116052/custom-keyboard-shortcut-to-lauch-a-terminal-and-run-a-command-in-unity
[16:06] <spearhead> someHuman, where he says to enter gnome-terminal -e "ping -c4 [your domain here]" just put the name of the program you want to run...
[16:07] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am not sure how to then copy those to a usb... can that be done on command line? How much is the output going to be? Could I take a photo of it and send that?
[16:07] <someHuman> I'd like to assign a shortcut for gedit, what's the path/syntax?
[16:07] <hitsujiTMO> newb: insert the usb. mount it. copy files. unmount.               photo will do if its clear
[16:11] <someHuman> spearhead Hey there.
[16:11] <Seveas> someHuman: shortcut? as in "hit ctrl alt f5 and gedit starts"?
[16:11] <someHuman> Yeah
[16:11] <mapps> TJ
[16:11] <mapps> it didnt find anything?
[16:11] <mapps> hm
[16:11] <someHuman> Seveas: Exactly.
[16:11] <Seveas> the path is /usr/bin/gedit and you can assign shortcuts with ccsm
[16:11] <someHuman> ccsm?
[16:12] <Seveas> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:12] <mapps> but
[16:12] <Seveas> someHuman: that --^
[16:12] <mapps> TJ can i pm you?
[16:13] <MKCoin> How can I limit the maximum allowed size of ~/.thumbnails?
[16:13] <mapps> TJ - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6897913/
[16:13] <mapps> locate found it
[16:13] <newb> hitsujiTMO: The output of lspci -knn is too much for a photo. I did the > ~/lspci but nothing seemed to happen. I suppose the output went to a file, but I don't know where the file is, how to access it, or copy it to the usb.
[16:13] <MKCoin> I'd like to keep it below 250 MB for performance reasons
[16:14] <mapps> id guess its the one in /usr/sbin?
[16:14] <astroduck> hitsujiTMO: Thanks I will try that
[16:14] <someHuman> Oh I don't think I have ccsm yet.
[16:14] <Seveas> someHuman: you'll need to install the compizconfig-settings-manager package
[16:14] <someHuman> Seveas: Can I not do it with just using the settings manager?
[16:14] <someHuman> I have bad experience with Compiz :(
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ~ is the home directory so it should be in your home
[16:15] <TJ-> mapps: OK, that's interesting, I knew it was launched from the postinst script, but didn't realise it was a part of the full package rather than a debian package script
[16:15] <someHuman> It messes up on how my OS looks like my experience before with Manjaro XFCE.
[16:15] <Seveas> someHuman: you're using compiz :)
[16:15] <Seveas> unity is a compiz plugin
[16:15] <someHuman> Oh
[16:15] <someHuman> Ah ok.
[16:15] <someHuman> So what do I put in command?
[16:15] <Seveas> /usr/bin/gedit
[16:16] <mapps> so i take it i need to open up the script and look at where it does chown - also looking at /var/lib/dpkg/info/squidguard.postinst?
[16:16] <TJ-> mapps: you can read it more easily now. If you do "less /usr/sbin/update-squidguard" I'll guide you to see the bug, then we can figure out the best way to work around it depending on whats on your system
[16:16] <newb> hitsujiTMO: How do I access the home and copy the file to USB? I am so new I do not know the most basic tasks. I sure do appreciate your help. Thank you. I see that the learning curve for me is steep. I sure would like to achieve the goal of connecting to the internet today. I wonder if there is more intensive help available. I would be willing to pay a fee, if that helps me to achieve the goal.
[16:17] <someHuman> spearhead Cool thanks man! ;)
[16:17] <mapps> TJ you here for a bit? gotta cook some food - got work in a bit :(
[16:17] <TJ-> mapps: Once you're in the 'less' viewer you can search using regular expressions. Type "/DATADIR" and press Enter
[16:18] <TJ-> mapps: The problem is the variable DATADIR isn't being set by the line DATADIR=$(grep ^dbhome ${CONFDIR}/${CONFFILE} | cut -d' ' -f2)
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> newb: insert the usb. type lsblk to find which device it is. most likely the partition for it is /dev/sdb1       then mount it: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt             then copy over the file: cp ~/lspci /mnt       then unmount: sudo umount /mnt
[16:18] <someHuman> Where do I find executables?
[16:18] <someHuman> spearhead Where do I find exectuables?
[16:19] <TJ-> mapps: That line is expanded to "DATADIR=$(grep ^dbhome /etc/squidguard/squidGuard.conf | cut -d' ' -f2)"
[16:20] <TJ-> mapps: So, you need to check "/etc/squidguard/squidGuard.conf" for a line beginning "dbhome" ... if that is missing, or is incomplete, DATADIR won't be assigned a value, causing a failure later doing "chown -R proxy:proxy ${DATADIR}"
[16:20] <mapps> yea
[16:20] <mapps> i see a line of dbhome
[16:21] <TJ-> mapps: notice the grep is followed by a "cut" of the 2nd field, with spaces as separators. What does that line look like?
[16:21] <mapps> sec
[16:21] <TJ-> mapps: If the 2nd field is missing, or spaces aren't used, that would explain the fault
[16:21] <mapps>  dbhome /usr/local/squidGuard/db
[16:22] <newb> hitsujiTMO: upon mounting a few different usb sticks, I get hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on part 1.
[16:23] <newb> hitsujiTMO: also, usb 6-1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[16:23] <prasanna> i'm new to ubuntu 13.04. i have hybrid video....i disable dedicated one. But problem is my system plan running always. How to fix it.I want automatic not manual .
[16:23] <hitsujiTMO> newb: and you've tried different ports?
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> prasanna: 13.04 is end of life and unsupported
[16:26] <TJ-> mapps: There's a leading space, which causes the assignment to be "dbhome" not "/usr/local/squidGuard/db" ... also, if that leading-space is only in your typing, then "/usr/local/squidGuard" suggests you've built a local package outside of the package management, which you haven't completely uninstalled - which is causing the Debian package to fail
[16:26] <Aeo_> hey, does anyone have any idea why i cant write to a cifs share mentioned to fstab, even though uid, gid, and rw are specified in the fstab
[16:27] <prasanna> i know that...i also want upgrade my system..but i have slow net connection...
[16:27] <wheatthin> Aeo_,  have you checked the permissions of the folders themselves?
[16:27] <prasanna> any solution for 13.04
[16:27] <Aeo_> wheatthin: all 777
[16:27] <wheatthin> yes, but who owns them?
[16:28] <spearhead> someHuman, sorry I had to step away from the computer for a little bit...
[16:28] <someHuman> spearhead Haha why?
[16:28] <Aeo_> wheatthin: i do
[16:28] <spearhead> someHuman, my wife needed some help...
[16:28] <someHuman> Ah ok ok.
[16:28] <someHuman> So where are executables found?
[16:29] <Aeo_> wheatthin: i have no idea why, and all the perms in the smb.conf are all 777. I have no idea
[16:29] <spearhead> someHuman, you don't need to know exactly where the executables are found, say you want to open firefox, if you open a terminal and type firefox it will open...
[16:29] <someHuman> Nah I want to tidy up my desktop by just using keyboard shortcuts.
[16:30] <spearhead> someHuman, so you go to System Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Custom Shortcuts hit the + button
[16:30] <Spindel> Hmm, I followed a guide that seemed to crasch my ssh login. Am I doomed forever now?
[16:30] <agd> Spindel: yep.
[16:30] <agd> Spindel: you're basically helpless now.
[16:30] <someHuman> Ok ok, so where are executables found?
[16:30] <someHuman> So next time I won't  bother much asking you haha!
[16:31] <spearhead> someHuman, what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:31] <Spindel> agd: I did the "Match User bob" thing in this  -> http://serverfault.com/questions/290843/how-to-disable-sftp-for-some-users-but-keep-ssh-enabled
[16:31] <agd> haha!
[16:31] <agd> Spindel: lemme check it out
[16:31] <someHuman> I want  to use hotkeys instead of clicking icons.
[16:31] <spearhead> someHuman, from what you have said you want to open a program just by using a keyboard shortcut?
[16:31] <Spindel> agd: I cant even login with root user now :(
[16:31] <agd> Spindel: you just got catfished, this was a trap.
[16:32] <someHuman> spearhead Exactly.
[16:32] <agd> Spindel: aww :(
[16:32] <agd> Spindel: well, hold on.
[16:32] <agd> Spindel: reinstall ssh.
[16:32] <Spindel> I cant reinstall without ssh
[16:32] <Spindel> its a server
[16:32] <Aeo_> someHuman: look into gnome do
[16:32] <Spindel> i access it with ssh
[16:33] <someHuman> Aeo_:  Huh?
[16:33] <agd> Spindel: you're f*cked, dude.
[16:33] <Spindel> agd: But why did it kill my ssh?
[16:33] <agd> Spindel: you got one option; make a backup and then, format.
[16:33] <someHuman> What's the best way to make my Ubuntu safe and secure?
[16:33] <agd> someHuman: you're never secure.
[16:33] <agd> someHuman: you'll always be owned.
[16:33] <someHuman> :(
[16:33] <agd> someHuman: but...
[16:33] <agd> someHuman: you may use selinux.
[16:33] <someHuman> Yes, but...
[16:34] <agd> someHuman: it'll keep the least amount of hackers away.
[16:34] <spearhead> someHuman, ok, are you trying to get rid of the unity dash? or just your icons on the desktop?
[16:34] <someHuman> Yes
[16:34] <someHuman> I don't want the sidebar haha!
[16:34] <agd> haha!
[16:35] <someHuman> Hmm, just curious, why did you guys opted for Ubuntu?
[16:35] <spearhead> someHuman, have you looked into using a different window manager such as gnome or kde?
[16:35] <agd> someHuman: aren't sidebars silly?
[16:35] <Aeo_> someHuman: GnomeDo is an application launcher. You hit a hotkey sequence, and type some characters that are inn the app name, hiit enter and launches
[16:35] <agd> they are just as silly as spearhead getting laid.
[16:35] <ROODAY> is this a place to ask for ubuntu help?
[16:35] <agd> (sorry to offend ya there, spearhead)
[16:35] <someHuman> ROODAY: Sure is!
[16:35] <Aeo_> someHuman: eg, i ht ctrl+space, type chr and hit enter, and chrome loads
[16:35] <agd> Aeo_: well that is somewhat confusing as GnomeDo usually gives you segfaults.
[16:35] <ROODAY> ok
[16:35] <agd> ROODAY: ok
[16:35] <ROODAY> I just shrank my win7 partition
[16:35] <ROODAY> but
[16:35] <spearhead> agd, the problem with that statement is that I probably get laid more than you do... :P
[16:35] <agd> daaaaaaamn
[16:35] <ROODAY> do i have to make a partition in goarted
[16:35] <someHuman> Aeo_:  Ah that's a nice app.
[16:35] <agd> well, who cares about win7 anyway?
[16:36] <ROODAY> or does it do so in the isntall of ubuntu?
[16:36] <agd> ROODAY: do you care about win7?
[16:36] <ROODAY> yes im setting up multiboot
[16:36] <ROODAY> steamos/win7/ubuntu
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> Spindel: your provider should have a recovery iso that you can use to fix it
[16:36] <agd> steamos is for gay fags
[16:36] <agd> are you gay, ROODAY
[16:36] <someHuman> Hmmm
[16:37] <ROODAY> i made some free space on my hdd, i just want to know if i have to create partitions now or if the installer will make the partitions?
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | agd enough of the messing
[16:37] <tweakdeveloper> Have you already installed SteamOS?
[16:37] <someHuman> How do I know what DE am using?
[16:37] <ROODAY> i havent installed anything yet
[16:37] <ROODAY> my laptop is currently in the live cd
[16:38] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I get identical output no matter what usb 2.0 port I use. The motherboard has two usb 3.0 ports. One of those ports has the usb stick with ubuntu on it. The other of those ports has my mouse connected to it. I removed the mouse and mounted the usb stick and I got the following on screen output: No caching mode page found. Assuming drive cache: write through.
[16:38] <ROODAY> and im shrinking the win7 partition to get some free space for ubuntu and steam os
[16:38] <spearhead> someHuman, the default that comes with ubuntu is unity, unless you have installed something else then you are using unity
[16:38] <hitsujiTMO> ROODAY: the installer will detecy the free space and make partitions for you
[16:38] <someHuman> Nah fosho am using Unity.
[16:38] <Spindel> hitsujiTMO: Yeah, I will contact them
[16:38] <someHuman> But how do I know my DE though?
[16:38] <hitsujiTMO> Spindel: ity should be available from your control panel
[16:39] <ROODAY> it will make the swap as well? will it also let me choose partition sizes? i want to make sure there is a shared fat32 partition between all Os's
[16:39] <tweakdeveloper> ROODAY: For a setup like yours, you'll probably need to manually create an Ubuntu root and swap partition and leave free space for a SteamOS root.
[16:39] <ROODAY> so do it now through gparted, or do it through the manual part of the ubuntu installation?
[16:39] <spearhead> someHuman, i am pretty sure ubuntu now comes with lightde
[16:39] <spearhead> someHuman, I will look into it though..
[16:40] <tweakdeveloper> I've always done it with the Ubuntu installer's manual option, but you could do it with Gparted.
[16:40] <ROODAY> ok ill do it through the installer then, i feel it will guide me better
[16:40] <spearhead> someHuman, sorry it is lightdm or light desktop manager
[16:40] <prasanna> how to check my hard disk health in ubuntu...because when i using ubuntu sometime i hear noise..but when using win 7 nothing....
[16:40] <ROODAY> will it say what partition type is needed for the swap and root? i don't know what they should be
[16:40] <tweakdeveloper> Yeah, it's much more streamlined creating partitions as part of a process than beforehand.
[16:40] <spearhead> *display
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> newb: thats a normal message.
[16:41] <tweakdeveloper> For Linux, the de facto standard filesystem for root is ext4.  For swap, just choose "swap space" from the options.
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> newb: mount it away and copy over the files
[16:42] <someHuman> spearhead So.....
[16:42] <ROODAY> ok thanks!
[16:42] <someHuman> spearhead How's it?
[16:42] <tweakdeveloper> Glad to help :)
[16:43] <someHuman> spearhead Gotta cook, cya later! ;)
[16:43] <spearhead> someHuman, unity is the de (desktop environment) if you want to try gnome logout and log back in using ubuntu GNOME DE
[16:43] <ROODAY> hopefully i dont screw anything up lol
[16:44] <tweakdeveloper> As long as you don't delete the Windows partitions and have a backup, you should be fine.
[16:48] <tyler_d> been a long time since I've been here :) hello everyone
[16:48] <kutulal> hello everyone
[16:49] <kutulal> I am getting this error:fetchmail: MDA returned nonzero status 73
[16:50] <kutulal> can anyone help me,please?
[16:50] <ROODAY> I have just one last question i forgot to ask
[16:50] <estudiante> analia zeballo
[16:50] <ROODAY> should the partitions for swap and root be logical or primary?
[16:51] <ROODAY> ?
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> ROODAY: what partition table do you have mbr?
[16:52] <ROODAY> what does that mean?
[16:52] <kutulal> hello everyone
[16:52] <ROODAY> mbr?
[16:53] <kutulal> I am getting this error while downloading mails from Gmail
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> ROODAY: ok if you're asking " logical or primary" and you are installing 3 OS's, then the answer is logical
[16:53] <kutulal> procmail: Couldn't create "/var/mail/kutu-ubuntu"fetchmail: MDA returned nonzero status 73
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> ROODAY: you can only have up to 4 primary partitions on an mbr/msdos partition table
[16:53] <ROODAY> so for the swap and the roots for both OS's should be logical, and leave the ones that are primary as primary?
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> ROODAY: yup
[16:54] <ROODAY> ok thanks!
[16:54] <kutulal> please help!
[16:55] <rishabh> quit
[16:58] <Danith> umm.. hello
[16:58] <Danith> can anyone give me a quick how to on finding what package installed some files?
[16:59] <Danith> fromthe command line
[16:59] <Danith> I'm trying to remove vmci, vsock, vmxnet3, pvscsi, vmmemctl
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> Danith: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[17:01] <hitsujiTMO> Danith:  vmxnet3 is a driver. infact, i'd guess they are all drivers.
[17:02] <Danith> they are, I'm trying to remove what ever is included in a base install and install the ones from the guest tools cd
[17:04] <thepiratetrader> So I've got a bit of a problem. I don't think it's necessarily ubuntu, but more drive related. I've got a 32gb drive. When I do "watch lsusb" and plug it in, it shows up, but doesn't look right, then dissapears after 5-10 seconds.
[17:04] <thepiratetrader> Any ideas?
[17:04] <hitsujiTMO> Danith: they're in ther kernel. so removing them would be difficult. what virtualisation solution is it? esxi?
[17:04] <thepiratetrader> dmesg says unable to assign something rather error -62. It recognzies that it is a usb storage unate.
[17:04] <newb> hitsujiTMO: How do I mount it exactly? I thought mounting it meant plugging it into the port.
[17:05] <hitsujiTMO> newb: use lsblk to foind the device node (prob /dev/sdb1) then: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt       that will mount it to /mnt
[17:07] <paul`> I'm in stuck emacs how change channel?  I find the interface kinda foreign, sorry people.  Yet enjoying my first hand experience so far.
[17:07] <Danith> esxi
[17:07] <Danith> I can use the clobber option to have the install overwrite them
[17:07] <Danith> I just thought they were put in by a ubuntu package and didn't want to mess that up
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> Danith: what kernel are you using: uname -r
[17:09] <BlueShark> How to correctly check if port 80 is open and any services are using that port?
[17:10] <BlueShark> I'm getting this error when I try to restart apache2: "(98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80" - What could be the reason?
[17:11] <OerHeks> lsof -i :<portnumber>
[17:11] <hitsujiTMO> BlueShark: or sudo netstat -plnt | grep ':80'
[17:11] <USBman> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu on to an 8GB USB stick, but it keeps giving me a bunch of errors at different points. If I try a very basic install, no encryption, it tells me "You need to make this partition bigger than the amount below / 3.2 GB" Which when I open the partition manager, it shows that the install program only allocated it 2.4 GB...
[17:11] <OerHeks> could be your host interferring
[17:12] <BlueShark> OerHeks, Tried that already and it outputs nothing
[17:12] <USBman> I started with 7.7GB of unallocated space.
[17:12] <BlueShark> hitsujiTMO, okay, that doesn't output anything either. I changed 80 to a different port number and it outputs results.
[17:13] <BlueShark> OerHeks, "host interfering" - Could you explain? I recently upgraded my Ubuntu version to 13.10 and this problem started after doing so.
[17:13] <Danith> hitsujiTMO - 3.11.0-12-generic
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> BlueShark: maybe its trying to bind to ipv6 and you dont have ipv6 running?
[17:14] <Danith> I'm used to compiling my own kernel and not having anything in there I don't want :)
[17:14] <BlueShark> hitsujiTMO, How do I check what it's binding to?
[17:14] <Danith> not a big deal, I'll just clobber them
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> Danith: the esxi tools modules wont compile on that kernel. the kernel also has newer drivers so you're better off with the kernel drivers
[17:14]  * Danith smashes
[17:14] <Danith> o rly
[17:15] <someHuman> Chromium or Firefox?
[17:15] <Danith> I don't like the (3rd party tool) listed ;)
[17:15] <Danith> I'll just leave it
[17:15] <Danith> welp
[17:15] <hitsujiTMO> Danith: esxi tools modules wont compile with kernels > 3.2
[17:15] <Danith> whaaat
[17:15] <hitsujiTMO> Danith: vmware actually suggest using the open vm tools in the repo
[17:15] <Danith> :O
[17:16] <Danith> well ok
[17:16] <BlueShark> hitsujiTMO, I've checked my ports.conf and it only has "Listen 80", which, according to the documentation page "makes the server accept connections on both port 80 on ALL interfaces"."
[17:17] <BlueShark> !poll | someHuman
[17:20] <someHuman> Ok, thanks! ;)
[17:21] <USBman> Anyone here heard of issues when installing Ubuntu 13.10 to a USB 8GB
[17:21] <USBman> ?
[17:21] <USBman> I am having issues
[17:22] <newb> hitsujiTMO: the drive is now mounted. copy command resulted in: cp: cannot stat '/home/ubuntu/lspci': No such file or directory
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> newb: redo it: lspci -nn > ~/lspci
[17:23] <lnx21> USB?  Please use  usb HDD.     I use HDD. Works better!
[17:23] <mapps> tj ot a sec i dont know what to do - howcome noone else has this issue
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> newb: or even: lspci -nn > /mnt/lspci.txt
[17:23] <mapps> i expeced to see it on ubuntuforums
[17:23] <lnx21> outbox HDD works better , i have 500GB HDD  in USB
[17:24] <hitsujiTMO> mapps: very few peeps run servers on a non lts build. especially if they are running squid
[17:24] <mapps> aha
[17:24] <mapps> ok
[17:24] <mapps> thanks mate
[17:26] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am three days behind where I thought I'd be in this process. Achievement here is going to test my patience beyond what I thought. If you believe you can help me to achieve my goals, I would pay you for telephone support. If not, I'll stick to this webchat. I do appreciate your help very much. Output of the latest command reads: -bash: /mnt/lspci.txt: Permission denied
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> newb: use sudo:      lspci -nn | sudo tee /mnt/lspci.txt
[17:28] <whoever> newb: what is your issue
[17:29] <p_2v71> Hello - I'm new to ubuntu 12.04.  I'm having a problem with my computer NIC card not being recognized most of the time.  I was able to get all updates to 12.04 installed as of a few days ago.
[17:29] <whoever> newb: where are you stuck at
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> newb: then once you have that done. unmount it before removing: sudo umount /mnt
[17:30] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I have quite a bit of on screen feedback. I presume the file has been written. Is there another command you'd like me to run before unmounting the usb to tranfer to windows machine for sharing with you?
[17:30] <whoever> pinnen: is your ip static, or dinamic
[17:30] <p_2v71> DHCP from router
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> newb: do this too: lsusb | sudo tee /mnt/lsusb.txt
[17:31] <p_2v71> I had to install a NIC because my onboard NIC died
[17:31] <hitsujiTMO> newb: then unmount
[17:31] <whoever> pinnen: it is an internal nic not a usb dongle correct ?
[17:31] <p_2v71> correct
[17:31] <hitsujiTMO> p_2v71: whats the output of: lspci -nn | grep Ethernet | grep -o '\[....:....\]'
[17:32] <p_2v71> give me a minue to try that on the ubuntu machine
[17:32] <mapps> TJ-,  its cutting the result of the cmd with the space delimiter and getting 2nd  field ? so the /usr/local/squidGuard/db ?
[17:32] <p_2v71> thanks for the assistance
[17:33] <newb> whoever: I am recently assembled a machine with parts I bought on newegg.com. I have successfully booted to xubuntu from usb stick; however, I am unable to access the internet when doing so.  Firefox outputs, "Unable to connect to server." To solve the internet problem, I tried booting to ubuntu; however, none of the window graphics render correctly. I've been told that ubuntu does like my radeon 7950 gpu. I am now trying to solve that i
[17:33] <mapps> ah no i am wrong
[17:33] <newb> hitsujiTMO: What is the unmount command I should use?
[17:33] <TJ-> mapps: What you showed here had a leading space, that would cause the assignment to be "dbhome" not "/usr/local/squidGuard/db" ... also, if that leading-space is only in your typing, then "/usr/local/squidGuard" suggests you've built a local package outside of the package management, which you haven't completely uninstalled - which is causing the Debian package to fail
[17:34] <newb> hitsujiTMO: never mind, I see it.
[17:34] <mapps> ahh
[17:34] <mapps> yea i did type it i think
[17:34] <mapps> because
[17:34] <mapps> basically what a mess
[17:34] <mapps> when i was installing from the repos it was erroring saying no config file in the dir so i made a basic one
[17:34] <mapps> and that fixed that - or got past that problem
[17:35] <yacc> Best tool to torture-testing memory in Saucy?
[17:35] <impaktor_> hitsujiTMO: Hi, I was here earlier today about the broken linux-headers-generic-pae. Did some googeling, and seems like this is a but, causing that package to eat inodes. I see a lot of people with the same issue. I don't have access to the fault laptop anymore (was helping a friend). Just wanted to drop that as a note here. also, is it "safe" to remove them manually as suggested in the last post here:
[17:35] <impaktor_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2112441 ?
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> yacc: memtest ofc
[17:35] <TJ-> mapps: OK... so if the space doesn't exist in the config file we move onto the "/usr/local/squidGuard" path ... I'm thinking you'd be best simply purging everything for that package including the config files, and starting clean
[17:35] <yacc> memtest the tool that installs itself into GRUB?
[17:35] <whoever> newb: so your tring to run the live version of ubuntu ?
[17:35] <Tom> what does pae and non par kernel means in linux?
[17:35] <mapps> ok apt-get remove squid3 squidguard ?
[17:35] <bazhang> !pae | Tom
[17:36] <PeterCassetta> Hi, does anyone know how to change the default selected menu entry (Grub2)
[17:36] <mapps> i think it was a space!!
[17:36] <yacc> hitsujiTMO: a kernel compile loop sounds so 90-ish for testing system integrity.
[17:36] <bazhang> thats out of date
[17:36] <TJ-> mapps: I *think* this should purge it, but it might fail since the package isn't fully configured yet. "sudo apt-get purge squidguard"
[17:36] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: yes you've a LOT of kernel header packages so you can safely remove the old ones
[17:36] <whoever> newb: you may have a bad burn of the disk
[17:36] <Tom> which kernel should we use pae or non pae for modern hardwares?
[17:36] <raiz0> heloo
[17:36] <mapps> TJ-,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6898404/
[17:36] <newb> whoever: yes, a live version from usb stick. my setup has no hard drive. the end goal here is to connect to the internet.
[17:36] <whoever> newb: i would try burning it again at a slower speed
[17:36] <PeterCassetta> Last time I changed it (several years ago, from Ubuntu to Windows), I seem to remember it being as simple as a single terminal command
[17:37] <mapps> when i went back to the config file and just pressed delete removed and re-instaleld it works
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> Tom: 64bit
[17:37] <impaktor_> hitsujiTMO: thanks.
[17:37] <raiz0> my hacking you kumpute bomb
[17:37] <TJ-> Tom: PAE allows a 32-bit kernel to access more than 4GB of address-space, and is standard on all recent Ubuntu kernels
[17:37] <mapps> so i was an idiot and added q white space i think
[17:37] <p_2v71> it says "grep: Trailing backslash"
[17:37] <newb> whoever: I used lili live usb creator to setup the ubuntu
[17:37] <TJ-> mapps: OK... you've fixed it :)
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> Tom: don't use 32bit on modern hardware. use 64bit
[17:37] <newb> whoever: I did the same for xubuntu
[17:37] <whoever> newb: the live version will be extreemly slow and you may experience what your are experiencing, your best bet is to install it
[17:37] <mapps> but - TJ i only did that because when installing squidguard from the repos it was failing saying no config found - which shouldnt be happening?
[17:37] <mapps> and i broke it
[17:37] <mapps> lol
[17:37] <mapps> :D
[17:37] <mapps> thanks mate
[17:38] <PeterCassetta> So now I just want to figure out where or how it is that I set the default menu entry
[17:38] <TJ-> mapps: Let's not open that can of worms! If the repo versions are broken let someone else fix it for now :)
[17:38] <mapps> ok:D
[17:38] <Tom> TJ: which kernel is better, i mean which kernel will boot  on any computer pae one or non pae kernel?
[17:38] <whoever> newb:  i would still install it vs running the live version
[17:38] <mapps> the real test is if squidguard -c ALL works ( when I compiled by source i was getting an error about DB->put method) then when using repos it just seemed to hang ..fingers crossed else im still stiumped!!
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> PeterCassetta: GRUB_DEFAULT= in /etc/default/grub
[17:39] <TJ-> Tom: Both will boot ... the PAE will access more than 4GB of address space, which helps if the PC has more than 4GB of RAM
[17:39] <PeterCassetta> hitsujiTMO: Yeah right now it's set to "saved"
[17:39] <newb> whoever: that is not possible now without another equipment purchase. I do not believe that is needed. But I do appreciate your feedback. Thank you.
[17:39] <p_2v71> ?
[17:39] <Tom> TJ: that means any kernel whether pae or non pae can boot on any pc?
[17:39] <PeterCassetta> Which leads me to wonder where exactly it's retrieving that value from
[17:40] <whoever> newb: how is that not possible,
[17:40] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I have the text files ready. How do I share them with you?
[17:40] <hitsujiTMO> PeterCassetta: give it an integer value pertaining to your grub menu option
[17:40] <whoever> you can dl in a terminal
[17:40] <TJ-> Tom: yes
[17:40] <hitsujiTMO> newb: paste.ubuntu.com
[17:40] <PeterCassetta> hitsujiTMO: Cool, I'll do that.
[17:40] <Tom> TJ: thanks a lot for the info.
[17:40] <PeterCassetta> hitsujiTMO: 0 for first option, correct?
[17:40] <whoever> newb: it is completly possible
[17:40] <hitsujiTMO> PeterCassetta: yessum, then run: sudo update-grub
[17:41] <newb> whoever: I do not have a hard drive connected to this machine.
[17:41] <soko> On a 12.10 VM I removed gnome-shell and some other packages (including cinammon) because I wanted to return to Unity. Now when I try to login the screen blanks out and throws me back to the login screen. The gues user can login fine into Unity. I have opened a bare shell and I have tried a ton of different things I've found posted but nothing helped. Any ideas would be most welcome!
[17:41] <PeterCassetta> hitsujiTMO: Cool, thanks for the assistance.
[17:41] <whoever> newb: why not
[17:42] <whoever> newb: running live iso is an extreemly slow process, and you are likly to incounter errors
[17:42] <newb> whoever: While I have a hard drive that I could use, I have no sata cables to connect it. I would have to leave the house, go buy the cables, come back, and do the hard drive installation. There is no hard drive, because the guide I used to setup this machine said it was not necessary. This is the first machine I've ever assembled and this is the first time I'm using linux./
[17:42] <Tom> TJ: can i boot a 32 bit linux distro in a uefi machine?
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> Tom: no. linux uefi requires 64bit kernel
[17:43] <whoever> newb: sounds like you got yourself in a pickle here
[17:43] <TJ-> Tom: Only in compatibility mode
[17:43] <Tom> you sure?
[17:43] <Tom> TJ: what is the compatibility mode?
[17:44] <TJ-> Tom: UEFI requires a disk with GPT partitioning and an EFI boot-loader. UEFI firmwares usually have a CSM (Compatibility Support Module) to allow booting from legacy MBR
[17:44] <hitsujiTMO> p_2v71: try again. you may have mistyped it: lspci -nn | grep Ethernet | grep -o '\[....:....\]'
[17:45] <newb> whoever: the original guide I read made it sound pretty easy. the guide said nothing about encountering internet connectivity issues in xubuntu.
[17:45] <newb> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6898449/
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> newb: once you
[17:45] <Guest93373> heyyeah!!! i'm a noob here...
[17:45] <Tom> TJ: that means we can boot a 32 bit os in it? i have a 32 bit Ubuntu.
[17:45] <TJ-> Tom: Yes, if the UEFI is set to boot in legacy mode
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> newb: oh dear god a 8186 :(
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> newb: a 8186 even :(
[17:46] <Tom> TJ: the legacy can boot a 32 it os right? does all uefi machines have this legacy mode?
[17:46] <newb> hitsujiTMO: That is, apparently, not good.
[17:46] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Or even an 8168 :)
[17:46] <chaotix> huston we have a problem,
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> newb no its not.
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: bah :P
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> newb: whats the output of: uname -r
[17:47] <Tom> it gives u ur kernel version.
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> newb: you said this was 13.10 right?
[17:48] <newb> hitsujiTMO: output is 3.11.0-12-generic
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ubuntu 13.10 right?
[17:49] <chaotix> so i ran the Software Updater this morning, and it crashed mid update, and then i could not get it to restart, and things kept crashing, so i tried logging out, but instead of a log in screen i just got a black screen with a blinking "_" cursor, so i cold boot, and select ubuntu from the grub, and then after the plymouth boot screen all that loads again is the blinking cursor
[17:49] <chaotix> so i have loaded up windows now
[17:49] <newb> hitsujiTMO: That is right.
[17:49] <chaotix> do i have any options other than re install?
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> newb: give me a 15 mins to prepare soemthing
[17:49] <Guest93373> how can i start hotspot on ubuntu
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> newb: 32bit or 64bit?
[17:50] <Guest93373> 64bit
[17:50] <whoever> hitsujiTMO: what cpu is he using
[17:50] <Danith> oh ya, this is why I didn't want to use the openvm tools
[17:50] <Danith> vmw_vsock_vmci_transport: Unknown symbol __vsock_create (err 0)
[17:50] <Danith> bunch of errors like that in dmesg
[17:50] <newb> hitsujiTMO: 64 bit. Thank you for the preparation. Do you have any confidence that I will be online using the internet anytime today or in the next month, for that matter?
[17:50] <p_2v71> I had an extra space - output is [1002:4342] and [1186:1300]
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> newb: not sure. the driver for that card is really awful
[17:51] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Perhaps it is helpful to know that I am trying to mine litecoin with this machine. I had read that this GPU and the xumbutu setup was ideal. I spent $2200 on all this equipment.
[17:52] <whoever> a hotspot , you mean connecto to a wireless router ?
[17:52] <hitsujiTMO> newb: you can go even lighter than xubuntu
[17:53] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I started using this guide: http://www.cryptobadger.com/2013/04/build-a-litecoin-mining-rig-linux/
[17:53] <whoever> newb: 2200 what are you tring to do
[17:54] <arez> ciao
[17:54] <whoever> newb: to me it sounds like your tring to make some sort of a headless server . are you?
[17:54] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Here is a picture of the machine we are trying to configure and get connected to the internet: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/b7qwFrc6_0dR44Mlk3vTA-GnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[17:54] <Danith> oh well.. stuff on the interweb is sparse on those errors
[17:55] <p_2v71> I had an extra space - output is [1002:4342] and [1186:1300]
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> newb: hehe good old milk crate rig
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> p_2v71: looking them up atm. they both seem very obscure
[17:56] <newb> whoever: I don't know what a headless server is, so I'm not sure. I'm trying to get this connected to the internet so I can run cgminer. I've been aware of cryptocurrencies for two years but really started to read up on them in November.
[17:56] <Danith> headless means no monitor/graphicscard/keyboard mainly
[17:56] <Tom> hitsujiTMO: can we boot a 32 bit os in uefi machine using legacy mode?
[17:56] <Danith> connect and manage it through ssh or whatever
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> Tom: yes. legacy mode disables uefi
[17:57] <newb> whoever: I've successfully mined some litecoin with a desktop computer with an old GPU, but my kh/s was no greater than 35. With this machine I hope to get to 2000 or more.
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> Tom: but you will get much better performance on a 64bit install
[17:57] <ignacio|her> Why now
[17:57] <ignacio|her> ubuntu 12.04 ask for 8.GB!?
[17:57] <ignacio|her> tHAT'S Impossible!
[17:58] <Tom> hitsujiTMO: that means if uefi is disabled and then a 32 bit os can be booted?
[17:58] <newb> hitsujiTMO: You know the milk crate rig? Ever do this before?
[17:58] <p_2v71> I had a hard time finding any info on it as well - I thing it was made in korea - I googled IDEQ 210A (the pc model) and didn't find much.
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> Tom: yes
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> newb: no i've helped a few peeps who have
[17:59] <newb> hitsujiTMO: so maybe there's hope! I thought I'd be mining coin by now! I am curious to see whatever it is you're preparing.
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> p_2v71: is this an old machine. both cards seem to be pretty old and not propperly supported in modern kernels. like they're from the 2.4 kernel era
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> newb: need to get the build-essential debs for you so you can build your driver
[18:00] <p_2v71> It is an old PC - I believe I bought it in 2004 or 5
[18:01] <hitsujiTMO> p_2v71: the kernel driver "should" be built in, but i don't think it actually works.
[18:01] <Danith> !
[18:02] <p_2v71> so the randomly working a small portion of the time is probably normal because of the hardware age?
[18:03] <p_2v71> for the NIC I mean
[18:03] <hitsujiTMO> p_2v71: because of the driver quality is how i'd phrase it
[18:04] <p_2v71> Do you have any suggestions to make it work?  I have downloaded the windows drivers for the NIC I installed in it.  Can I use those somehow?
[18:04] <soee> hi, what package contains H.264 decoder ?
[18:04] <Oun_> lo ppl
[18:05] <Oun_> someone can help? I cant put my USB internet adapter working on linux/virtulbox
[18:05] <Oun_> its recognized but still dont work
[18:06] <Oun_> dmesg says; Failed to initialize the device
[18:06] <Oun_> any ideas?
[18:06] <whoever> Oun_: did you restart networking
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> p_2v71: nope. can't think of anyway to get it working.    one thing i spotted mentioned adding the kernel param: acpi=off
[18:06] <aLeSD> hi all
[18:06] <whoever> aLeSD: hi
[18:07] <aLeSD> what's the package nvidia-update is needed for ?
[18:07] <p_2v71> How would I do that?
[18:07] <whoever> aLeSD: maybe to update your nvidia
[18:07] <p_2v71> btw - I'm new to IRC as well
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | p_2v71 check this out. instead of adding nomodeset add acpi=off
[18:08] <p_2v71> Thanks for the help hitsujiTMO
[18:08] <whoever> p_2v71: yoour on ubuntu and your using windows drivers  that will not work
[18:09] <whoever> pipster: is your windows in a vm
[18:09] <whoever> pipster: oops wrong nic
[18:09] <Oun_> whoever, restart networking? I guess so but not sure
[18:09] <Oun_> can you tell me how
[18:09] <p_2v71> No, I'm not.  I asked if they could be used (thinking about the wrapper thing for windows drivers)
[18:10] <whoever> Oun_: sudo service networking restart
[18:10] <Oun_> let me try
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ok. download this: http://download.hitsuji.eu/build.tar.gz
[18:10] <whoever> p_2v71: the only way you would use windows drivers is for tativly running windos
[18:11] <aLeSD> mmm ... why my cpu is to 100% when I play a mp4 video ?
[18:11] <Oun_> ok done
[18:11] <Oun_> still the same
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> aLeSD: because you don't have any 2d gpu acceleration?
[18:11] <Oun_> ifconfig shows me 2 lo
[18:11] <Oun_> no wlan
[18:11] <whoever> Oun_: ok, with the dongle plugged in try rebooting and see if that works
[18:12] <aLeSD> hitsujiTMO, I have this 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 620 OEM]
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> aLeSD: what are you using to playback the video?
[18:12] <aLeSD> I tried open-source and proprietary drives
[18:12] <aLeSD> hitsujiTMO, I tried with vlc and the default media player
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> aLeSD: not sure then. what rsolution is the vid?
[18:13] <aLeSD> full HD
[18:13] <aLeSD> 60 FPS
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> aLeSD: 60fps video???
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> aLeSD: that would certainly do it
[18:14] <aLeSD> hitsujiTMO, Yes . I recorded it with a goPRO
[18:14] <newb> hitsujiTMO: getting it... then what?
[18:14] <Oun_> WHOEVER: AFter reboot with dongle : ifconfig ( eth0 and lo ) iwconfig no wireless externsions
[18:15] <aLeSD> I try to install nvidia-update ... (however opensource drivers seems better)
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> aLeSD: fhd @ 60fps takes a LOT of processing power
[18:15] <Oun_> any more ideas»
[18:15] <Oun_> ?
[18:15] <aLeSD> so I will revert to opensource drivers ... they seems smoother
[18:16] <Gaming4JC> hey guys, I just did a "mv * /backup" inside a folder to backup all the stuff
[18:16] <Gaming4JC> unfortunately it just deleted them apparently since nothing actually moved(?)
[18:16] <Gaming4JC> anyway to get my files back? :P
[18:16] <TJ-> aLeSD: Are you playing it in a window, or full-screen. Because of the 3D composited desktop a window will have to be software-composited. Try using vlc to play it full-screen in video overlay mode
[18:16] <Oun_> so no more ideas?
[18:18] <aLeSD> here I am
[18:18] <TJ-> aLeSD: Are you playing it in a window, or full-screen. Because of the 3D composited desktop a window will have to be software-composited. Try using vlc to play it full-screen in video overlay mode
[18:18] <aLeSD> nvidia-update are smoother ... but cpu usage is the same
[18:18] <Oun_> oh shit, cant put this working
[18:18] <aLeSD> but in what propetary drivers are better in nvidia ?
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> newb: download the driver from here http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[18:19] <whoever> Oun_: make and model
[18:19] <Oun_> how come?
[18:20] <Oun_> ahh
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> !language | Oun_
[18:20] <Oun_> tp link wn722N
[18:20] <Oun_> ath9k firmware
[18:20] <newb> hitsujiTMO which item in the list of drivers?
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> newb: kernel 3.x one under linux
[18:21] <Oun_> DMESG: failed to initialize the device
[18:21] <whoever> Oun_: Oun_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1895776
[18:22] <ilarion> it is a terminal command for update mozilla to v27?
[18:22] <brainkiller> и чо?
[18:22] <Oun_> oh i guess i did that whoever
[18:22] <Oun_>  i will try it again
[18:22] <Oun_> thanks
[18:22] <brainkiller> wtf?
[18:23] <brainkiller> тут русские есть?
[18:23] <Gallomimia> !ru
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> ilarion: firefox 27 is still in proposed atm
[18:23] <CrazyGirl> !ru
[18:24] <ilarion> ok
[18:25] <ilarion> !ro
[18:25] <ilarion> ha
[18:26] <newb> hitsujiTMO: both are downloaded. I presume unpack them and place them onto the usb for mounting on the linux machine?
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> newb: put them on the usb first. you can unpak them on the system
[18:28] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Okay, they are on the usb. I am going to mount it now.
[18:28] <crf> Hi. I am from Canada. I was trying to watch an olympics event from CBC's website. But it doesn't seem to show the video in firefox.
[18:29] <crf> A black box appears where the video should be, but nothing plays. The flash plugin loads.
[18:31] <whoever> crf: what flash are you using
[18:31] <Oun_> Invalid operation
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> newb: btw do you have persistence set up on that usb?
[18:31] <Oun_> ok didnt work
[18:31] <Oun_> lots of errors
[18:31] <Oun_> and  cant find this and that
[18:31] <Oun_> anyway, thanks for the help whoever
[18:32] <whoever> Oun_: ok, what ver of ubuntu
[18:32] <newb> hitsujiTMO: usb is mounted. now what?
[18:32] <Oun_> ill try it again later on
[18:32] <Oun_> last one
[18:32] <Oun_> catch ya later
[18:32] <Oun_> cya
[18:32] <whoever> Oun_: that could be 14.04 beta
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> newb: mkdir ~/install; cp /mnt/* ~/install
[18:33] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Yes, I think I set it at 460mb of persistence.
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> newb: then: cd ~/install; tar xf build.tar.gz; sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[18:36] <newb> hitsujiTMO: mkdir command did not work. Do I need to use sodu with it?
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> newb: no. you shouldn't need sudo for it
[18:37] <newb> hitsujiTMO: output is: cp: target '~install' is not a directory
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> newb: try: mkdir ~/moo; cp /mnt/* ~/moo
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ~/install not ~install
[18:39] <newb> hitsujiTMO: crap
[18:39] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Does it matter that other items were on the drive?
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> newb: lol no. just cp the 2 files then
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> newb: cp ~/mnt/build.tar.gz ~/install; cp ~/mnt/driverfileyoudownloaded.tar.bz2 ~/install
[18:44] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am getting a lot of "omitted messages"
[18:44] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am getting a lot of "omitted messages"
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> newb: from which command?
[18:45] <asad2005> Is it ok to upgrade to 14.04 if i accept once a day crash or is it more than that?
[18:45] <OerHeks> asad2005, no.
[18:45] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu+1 asad2005
[18:46] <chaotix> hi
[18:46] <newb> hitsujiTMO: see here https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/b5NVUxvEpNj9nPhvhrOIdeGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[18:46] <chaotix> i ran the Software Updater this morning, and it crashed mid update, and then i could not get it to restart, and things kept crashing, so i tried logging out, but instead of a log in screen i just got a black screen with a blinking "_" cursor, so i cold boot, and select ubuntu from the grub, and then after the plymouth boot screen all that loads again is the blinking cursor
[18:46] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu+1 | asad2005
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> newb: thats ok
[18:46] <chaotix> do i have any options other than reinstall?
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> newb: its because you did cp and not recursive cp
[18:47] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Now what? This? cp ~/mnt/build.tar.gz ~/install; cp ~/mnt/driverfileyoudownloaded.tar.bz2 ~/install
[18:47] <nice_guy> how to grant root privileges to the existing user
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> newb: nope... cd ~/install
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ls
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> newb: what are you seeing there?
[18:48] <SchrodingersScat> !root | nice_guy
[18:48] <newb> hitsujiTMO: after ls, no such file or directory
[18:50] <k1l_> nice_guy: use sudo. but dont use sudo for GUI programms
[18:50] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I literally just typed ls though. Is that right? Is ls a command?
[18:50] <nice_guy> i had add one of the existing user to the 'sudo' group   by using the command : adduser <username> sudo
[18:50] <nice_guy> but its not working
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ls lists everything in a directory. give that error is rather odd
[18:51] <k1l_> nice_guy: no that does not work
[18:51] <nice_guy> why
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ok. lets try this again. cd ~
[18:52] <nice_guy> it adds the user to sudo group
[18:53] <newb> hitsujiTMO: This is interesting. I feel like I am in 7th grade again learning dos commands!
[18:53] <newb> hitsujiTMO: ls now produces a result. One moment and I will show you.
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> nice_guy: adduser sudo <usernane>
[18:53] <elee> Howdy folks - I've only recently become better with linux in general, and noticed something weird. For some reason lightdm seems to drop zombie processes left and right, even after reboots. Tohughts?
[18:53] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys if i have a 64 bit intel system, do i get the 64 bit amd desktop iso?
[18:53] <Psil0Cybin> or do i get an intel iso even if my system is a 64 bit intel system?
[18:53] <elee> Psil0Cybin: link for us please?
[18:53] <ignacio|here> anyone help me?
[18:53] <ignacio|here> "groups: no se puede encontrar el nombre para el grupo con ID 1001"
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: amd64 is intel + amd
[18:54] <elee> Psil0Cybin: Based on what you've told us though, that iso should be good
[18:54] <Psil0Cybin> okay darn see i installed a 32 bit system on my 64 bit system
[18:54] <nice_guy> root@aman-X101H:~# adduser sudo aman
[18:54] <nice_guy> adduser: The user `sudo' does not exist.
[18:54] <nice_guy> root@aman-X101H:~#
[18:54] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Output here: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Ox22hwo8Dy75m3JvPafyX-GnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[18:54] <Psil0Cybin> lol cuz i did not know better ;p
[18:54] <bekks> elee: a zombie cant survive a reboot.
[18:54] <elee> nice Psil0Cybin =]
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: intel licence the 64bit spec from amd
[18:55] <Psil0Cybin> darn well now i know better
[18:55] <Psil0Cybin> time to reformat :D
[18:55] <Psil0Cybin> would i notice big differences if i have a 64 bit system and am using a 64 bit OS?
[18:55] <hitsujiTMO> nice_guy: cat /etc/issue
[18:55] <Psil0Cybin> like i have the lenovo g700 and the 32 bit iso is working flawlessly.
[18:56] <nice_guy> root@aman-X101H:~# cat /etc/issue
[18:56] <nice_guy> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[18:56] <nice_guy> root@aman-X101H:~#
[18:56] <crf> whoever: adobe flash 11,2,202,336 . Also tried libtotem vegas plugin but it crashed
[18:56] <bekks> 1eol | nice_guy
[18:56] <bekks> !eol | nice_guy
[18:56] <sugarcat> ignacio@estudiante-laptop:~$ cat /etc/issue
[18:56] <sugarcat> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[18:56] <sugarcat> ignacio@estudiante-laptop:~$
[18:56] <sugarcat>  /cry
[18:57] <elee> bekks: sorry let me reword. lightdm appears to complete execution but does not appear to remove entry from the process table. I see that this occurs even after multiple reboots, leading me to believe that lightdm is shitting itself somehow
[18:57] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Does that look good?
[18:57] <bekks> elee: why do you want lightdm to remove some process entries?
[18:58] <jonathan2> anybody have experience with canon ufr drivers? printer is recognized and setup by cups without issue, but can't print anything, including test page. advice on troubleshooting?
[18:58] <elee> bekks: no reason - I just want to check to see if lightdm has any reason to leave zombie processes.
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> newb: yup. ok: mkdir ~/debs; cd ~/debs; mv ~/install/build.tar.gz .
[18:59] <hitsujiTMO> newb: then: tar xf build.tar.gz; sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[19:00] <zXuS> =D
[19:01] <bekks> elee: How do you identify the zombies?
[19:01] <nice_guy> END OF LIFE:  means now i had to upgrade my system to get in working condition
[19:01] <elee> bekks: ubuntu warns me of zombie processes when I log in. that being said, a simple ps aux | grep Z works fine
[19:02] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys before i format, quickly how can I check if my system is a 64 bit or 32 bit? in a ubuntu command line?
[19:02] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: "uname -m" tells you the current kernel architecture
[19:02] <genii> Psil0Cybin: uname -m
[19:03] <Jordan_U> elee: I assume that you mean that there are defunct children of a still running lightdm process, correct? (or are these zombies children of another process, and if so, which one?)
[19:03]  * genii slides TJ- the winning coffee
[19:03] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: "lscpu | grep Architecture" will tell you the actual CPU arch
[19:03] <OerHeks> lscpu is nice
[19:04] <BlueShark> How about getconf LONG_BIT
[19:04] <elee> Jordan_U: correct. command was lightdm. Status is noted as Z, command is [lightdm] <defunct>
[19:04] <Psil0Cybin> would i notice a big difference in using a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit system?
[19:05] <k1l_> Psil0Cybin: there is no sense in running a 32bit OS when the hardware can work with 64bit
[19:05] <Psil0Cybin> yea it was just stupidness on my part :P
[19:05] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I need to work on my typing! See here: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ati-X2U43buBt4zso2BnUeGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink Is it true to say that I should now use: mv ~/install/build.tar.gz .
[19:05] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: 32-bit instructions are 1/2 the size of 64-bit in many cases, on a system with less than 3GB of RAM, 32-bit kernel/userspace is good.
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: 32bit is slower. and can be noticable depending on the task
[19:05] <Psil0Cybin> alright
[19:06] <Psil0Cybin> thanks so im going to try and install a 64 bit system :P
[19:06] <elee> Psil0Cybin: if you don't have the memory (4GB+), then you can totally leave your OS alone. However, if you have more, you will be better off reinstalling.
[19:06] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: However, I use a 32-bit userspace on a 64-bit kernel from USB sticks... the sticks also have the 32-bit kernels, which allows the USB to boot on any x86 CPU
[19:06] <Psil0Cybin> how can I backup my files in /home/ so i do not have to undo all the changes i did.
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ls
[19:06] <Psil0Cybin> elee: all i have is 4 GB in the O.S anyway
[19:06] <Psil0Cybin> Ram
[19:06] <elee> Psil0Cybin: if you have a separate usb or something, simply mount and mv * into the drive.
[19:06] <TheUnnamedDude> Hai, is it possible to disable the "stop" command?
[19:07] <hitsujiTMO> TheUnnamedDude: no
[19:07] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: I'd create an LVM with a "home" LV, format it, and then copy the contents of "/home/" into it ... then later add that LV to the fstab of the new installation, mounted at /home/
[19:08] <TheUnnamedDude> Dang, I always type that command in the wrong terminal window when trying to stop my test minecraft server :/
[19:08] <Seveas> TheUnnamedDude: sure. But it's a horrible idea, as it breaks package installs and shutting down/rebooting
[19:08] <Seveas> TheUnnamedDude: if you just want to disable it in your shell, add this to your ~/.bashrc: alias stop='echo "No, you stop"'
[19:08] <Jordan_U> elee: But what is the parent of that process?
[19:08] <TheUnnamedDude> Also, cat_woman_44 is a bot spamming links on pm
[19:09] <Seveas> !ops
[19:09] <Gallomimia> seveas you're still awake??
[19:09] <jonathan2> anybody have experience with canon ufr drivers? printer is recognized and setup by cups without issue, but can't print anything, including test page. advice on troubleshooting?
[19:09] <TheUnnamedDude> Yeah, that should be enough Seveas, thanks!
[19:09] <Seveas> Gallomimia: it's only 20:09 here :)
[19:09] <Gallomimia> ah so you've been online all day :)
[19:09] <hitsujiTMO> TheUnnamedDude: you should report such actions in #ubuntu-ops
[19:10] <Gallomimia> you're at gmt +1 i guess\
[19:10] <genii> Seveas: cat_woman ?
[19:10] <Seveas> genii: yeah
[19:10] <TheUnnamedDude> http://screencloud.net/v/yAX2
[19:10] <Gallomimia> always make nerds believe there's a pretty lady at the other end of the wire when advertising for something
[19:11] <Gallomimia> and when i say nerds, i mean... all human beings.
[19:11] <Seveas> !ot | Gallomimia
[19:11] <hitsujiTMO> newb: that working?
[19:11] <Gallomimia> seveas that korean file i was worried about with cp -R has also been missed with rsync -a
[19:11] <elee> Jordan_U: okay a quick pstree -p root shows me that lightdm (2261), the zombie process, is spawned by lightdm (1329), which is spawned by init.
[19:12] <LjL> Gallomimia: oh, i was going to help you but only because i thought you might be a pretty guy
[19:12] <Gallomimia> thanks bud
 thanks for helping me
[19:16] <Gallomimia> huh. i guess i don't need to bother about copying the korean language support for this game that i don't even know what it is. i probably will never play it (in korean)
[19:16] <newb> hitsujiTMO: sorry for the delay. My neighbor rang the bell. One moment.
[19:16] <julianofischer> hi folks
[19:16] <Gallomimia> can't seem to ls, cp, or rsync it
[19:16] <Gallomimia> not even with wildcards
[19:17] <newb> hitsujiTMO: ls shows the build.tar.gz file.
[19:18] <hitsujiTMO> newb: tar xf build.tar.gz; sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[19:18] <setto> hi
[19:18] <no_gravity> Good Evening!
[19:19] <no_gravity> There was a critical security hole in the adobe flash player some days ago. Does ubuntu autoupdate it?
[19:20] <newb> hitsujiTMO: that looks successful. Now...?
[19:20] <hitsujiTMO> no_gravity: yes. there was a flash update just a few days ago too. might already be the latest
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> newb: mkdir ~/driver
[19:21] <John_John_> how to upgrade my php version from 5.3 to 5.5 in ubuntu without break anything in my configuration ?
[19:21] <no_gravity> hitsujiTMO: interesting. i asked in #debian and they say you have to manually update it.
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> no_gravity: debian != ubuntu
[19:21] <newb> hitsujiTMO: driver made
[19:22] <no_gravity> hitsujiTMO: i know
[19:23] <k1l_> !away > ignacio|away
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> no_gravity: the ubuntu install package. is just a script that pulls directly from the adobe site. so all that needs to be done for an update of the the package maintainer to update the version number and that will trigger an update in ubuntu
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> no_gravity: the script will then pull the latest from the adobe site
[19:23] <no_gravity> hitsujiTMO: interesting
[19:23] <ignacio|away> k1l_, you're a burocrat?
[19:23]  * ignacio|away back in few hours. Good bye for now.
[19:24] <ignacio|away> .-.
[19:24] <newb> hitsujiTMO: next up?
[19:24] <k1l_> !guidelines > ignacio|away turn that script off
[19:24] <Psil0Cybin> hey question guys I am trying to install the 64 bit system instead of the 32 bit OS I installed by stupidiity, but during the install it says Stopping enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices and shows me a mouse and thats it....do I let it wait ... or
[19:25] <ignacio|away> k1l_, this aren't script. I see it manually
[19:25] <hitsujiTMO> newb: cp ~/install/r8168* ~/driver
[19:27] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I'm not sure if that did anything. There is no output.
[19:28] <OerHeks> no output=no error :-)
[19:29] <hitsujiTMO> newb: cd ~/driver
[19:29] <hitsujiTMO> newb: tar xf r8168*
[19:30] <hitsujiTMO> newb: cd r8168-8.037.00
[19:30] <Psil0Cybin> hey hitsujiTMO when trying to install Xubuntu 12.04 64 bit I get an error in the install and it crashes and wont let me install Xubuntu again is this because I encrypted my home directory?
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: could be one of the reasons if you're installing on top of your old install
[19:32] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am in the new directory.
[19:32] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: trying to install over my old install
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> newb: sudo ./autorun.sh
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: backup the contents of your old home and format for a clean install
[19:33] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: works now, odd had to get into desktop view then do install
[19:36] <newb> hitsujiTMO: What do you make of this? https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Lcw1u04ShP26Sju1SXLeVOGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> newb: is the network connection working now?
[19:38] <dveim> what are /dev/ttyxxx for?
[19:38] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Should I test that by rebooting into ubuntu and trying firefox?
[19:40] <ROPA> how do I locate the ppa for boot-repair (in 14.04)?? I can't find any listing for it at http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas
[19:40] <k1l_> ROPA: maybe there is no package in the ppa for now. it is even not released
[19:41] <ROPA> I agree that might be the case, but thereis no ppa listed for ANY version of ubuntu....it's like boot-repair does not exist.
[19:42] <hitsujiTMO> newb: no need to reboot. just see if it works
[19:42] <newb> hitusjiTMO: I would do that, but I don't know how in this environment.
[19:42] <k1l_> ROPA: there is the well known ppa. ir just doesnt have trusty packages
[19:42] <mitchelwb> I've been running Ubuntu for a few years on my home machine, but I'm far from an expert user.  This morning, something went wrong, and I can use a live disk to mount my main drive, so I plan to save off any files I want to keep then do a fresh install.  (I've been running the 32 bit and figured I'd bump up to the 64 bit anyway just haven't had a reason to make the time to do it)
[19:42] <hewomust> ROPA there is no boot-repair for tahr
[19:43] <hewomust> https://launchpad.net/~yannubuntu/+archive/boot-repair
[19:43] <hitsujiTMO> newb: top right corner. find the network icon
[19:43] <mitchelwb> When I originally set it up, I didn't know what I was doing, and I've sorta just made the system keep working.  But if I'm going to do a fresh install today, was wondering if there were any "guides" that you all would recommend that I could use to get the best install possible?
[19:43] <ROPA> k1l_  I agree that might be the case, but there is no ppa listed for ANY version of ubuntu....it's like boot-repair does not exist. If I tried to find boot-repair for 12.04...there is no entry either.
[19:43] <k1l_> ROPA: that is a common problem for dev releases. so help yourself, you know its a dev release
[19:44] <daftykins> mitchelwb: not really, but a new long term support (LTS) release 14.04 will be out in April so it'd make more sense to use that
[19:44] <daftykins> mitchelwb: are you sure what's there is beyond fixing?
[19:44] <Oun_> lo ppl
[19:44] <newb> hitusjiTMO: Top right corner is all black. I would have to get into ubuntu to see the icon, no? The only way I know how to get into ubuntu from here is a reboot. There's probably a command I can type...??
[19:44] <eltigre> can someone help me debug my nvidia issue? Before reinstallation, I had the drivers correctly installed. Now I have followed tutorials and help pages from the net for hours and I am still no closer to resolving the problem
[19:44] <Oun_> someone have a clue how to install an internet adapter on linux/virtual box?
[19:44] <k1l_> ROPA: ubuntuupdates is not a ubuntu page.
[19:44] <eltigre> "nvidiactl device or address not found"
[19:45] <k1l_> ROPA: search on launchpad
[19:45] <hewomust> newb where are you?
[19:45] <mitchelwb> daftykins, I noticed that 14.04 is coming soon, but right now, my machine is a brick without the cd in the drive at boot.
[19:45] <mitchelwb> I don't know if it's beyond repair, but I don't have a lot on my main drive that I need to keep.  I honestly think it is probably easier to just dump and reinstall.
[19:45] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ahh i see. yeah try rebooting then
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> newb lets hope the persistence works
[19:46] <newb> hitsujiTMO: So I must reboot to get into ubuntu to see the icon you're asking about? There is no command?
[19:47] <newb> hewomust: I am not sure how to answer you question. I am new to linux. I am on command line???
[19:47] <hewomust> try typing startx then
[19:48] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Do you agree with startx?
[19:48] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Having been at this for so long now, I don't want to mess it up at this point!
[19:48] <daftykins> mitchelwb: that's fair enough. just nuke and install then, sure.
[19:48] <ROPA> ok, thanks for the info on the ppa's.....GL to all.....Have been running latest daily build 14.04 for the last 3 days....it seems quite stable (so far). I got my fingers crossed for it!
[19:48] <mitchelwb> daftykins: I was able to boot from an old live disk (I'm running 12.?? but the only disk I have is an 11).  Originally, it wouldn't let me mount /dev/sda1 but I ran e2fsck on the drive and it did seem to come up with some issues.  When it was done, I was able to mount the drive though and navigate it via the terminal
[19:49] <hitsujiTMO> newb: sudo service lightdm restart
[19:49] <Oun_> someone have a clue how to install an internet adapter on linux/virtual box?
[19:49] <compdoc> whats an internet adapter?
[19:49] <daftykins> compdoc: a made up term
[19:49] <Guest90853> can anyone help me with networking related issues in ubuntu 12.04lts version ??
[19:49] <mitchelwb> But when I tried to then go back and reboot, it threw a bunch of errors, showed me a purple screen with a progress bar (4 dots blinking) and now I just have the purple screen, but it's not booting.
[19:50] <daftykins> Guest90853: ask the question first
[19:50] <Oun_> compdoc lol
[19:50] <Guest90853> i cannot connect to google.com , youtube , or any site that uses google apis
[19:51] <Oun_> so no1 has a clue?
[19:51] <k1l_> Oun_: can you rephrase and give more details?
[19:51] <Guest90853> i am able to ping google.com but the page does not open .........it says waiting for a response
[19:51] <Oun_> someone have a clue how to install an internet adapter on linux/virtual box? Dmesg shows cant initialize device
[19:51] <compdoc> Oun_, you arent making sense
[19:52] <Oun_> lol
[19:52] <k1l_> Oun_: which device?
[19:52] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I can't use my mouse because the stick is in the usb port. Can I now unmount the usb to use the mouse?
[19:52] <compdoc> you trying to install an ethernet adaptor, or some special card that connects directly to your ISP?
[19:52] <Guest90853> I have Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS installed,and use a wi-fi network router to connect to internet .But it seems I cannot navigate my web browser to google.com nor to youtube or any site with google apis.
[19:52] <Oun_> atheros ath9k firmware 9271
[19:53] <compdoc> its a wireless nic, then
[19:53] <jhutchins> Guest90853: Firefox or nautilus?
[19:53] <jhutchins> Guest90853: Which browser?
[19:53] <jhutchins> Guest90853: Can you connect with other web sites?
[19:53] <Guest90853> firefox,chrome both
[19:53] <Oun_> yes
[19:53] <Guest90853> yes i can
[19:53] <jhutchins> I would suspect your ISP then, not Ubuntu.
[19:54] <Oun_> its an USn network adapter Wifi
[19:54] <Oun_> not my ISP for sure
[19:54] <Oun_> lol
[19:54] <Oun_> the problem is the drivers
[19:54] <Oun_> or virtual box
[19:54] <jhutchins> Oun_: No, I meant Guest90853
[19:54] <Oun_> ah ok
[19:54] <Oun_> no idea how i can solve this
[19:54] <Oun_> already did everything i could
[19:54] <jhutchins> Oun_: possibly need sormware.
[19:54] <newb> hitsujiTMO: damn! I accidently turned the power off to the system. It is now rebooting with the mouse installed on the usb port.
[19:55] <jhutchins> Oun_: Ah, I see you've condidered that.
[19:55] <Oun_> its recognized, but wont start
[19:55] <Oun_> firmware is there, but not sure if it was loaded
 but i can connect to google ,youtube from other laptops that use windows
[19:56] <Oun_> so any ideas what can be done?
[19:56] <jhutchins> Oun_: Could be an unusual implementation of the chipset.
[19:56] <jhutchins> Oun_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:56] <Oun_> this chipset is compatible
[19:56] <jhutchins> Guest90853: That's just nuts, there's nothing special about google.com
[19:56] <Oun_> theres a few ppl using it
[19:57] <Oun_> the problem is...how the fck i put this working
[19:57] <jhutchins> Oun_: Sometimes a manufacturer will implement the same chipset differently.
[19:57] <Oun_> iwconfig shows no wireless extensions
[19:57] <Oun_> its a driver issue for sure
[19:58] <Oun_> any ideas how i can install the divers on this einstein os?
[19:58] <jhutchins> Oun_: Yeah, follow the link above.
[19:58] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Is there a way to test whether the permanence worked? Unfortunately, ubuntu is still behaving badly. See here: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/NkVQRJAYLMPUPNk2HIEq6OGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[19:58] <k1l_> Oun_: put "lsusb &&lspci" into a pastebin
[19:58] <OerHeks> "VirtualBox does not natively offer Wireless support (Like a virtualized Wireless device). Instead, it connects directly to the Wireless device the Host uses."
[19:59] <k1l_> Oun_: and is this a native install or a ubuntu in a vm?
[19:59] <jhutchins> Oun_: This is a Virtual Machine?
[19:59] <Oun_> lsusb = Atheros Communication, int AR9271 802.11n
[19:59] <Oun_> its there as u see
[19:59] <Oun_> yes
[19:59] <Oun_> virtual box
[20:00] <jhutchins> Oun_: What's the host OS and hypervisor?
[20:00] <Oun_> no hypervisor
[20:00] <Oun_> just virtual box
[20:00] <compdoc> What's the host OS, windows?
[20:00] <Oun_> i dont like hyper V~
[20:00] <Oun_> yes
[20:00] <jhutchins> Will it emulate anything else?
[20:01] <Oun_> this issue is related with virtual box, firmware and drivers
[20:01] <compdoc> Oun_, you dont really need to add the card to virtualbox, do you? once windows sees it, you can add a virtual nic that ubuntu does have drivers for
[20:01] <Oun_> its added to virtual box, once the virtual box is launched windows dont see it anymore
[20:02] <Oun_> inside linux its there
[20:02] <compdoc> in fact, if Windows adds drivers and adds it to its own device manager, I dont think you can add it to a VM
[20:02] <jhutchins> Oun_: You might check #vbox for help, I don't really think this is an Ubuntu issue, as it usually handles real hardware well.
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> newb: only think you can do is reboot and hope for the best. you'll need to get the gpu drivers in then to try and fix that issue
[20:02] <Oun_> what i need from you guys, is the basic procedure to install drivers
[20:02] <jhutchins> Oun_: What about letting the host manage the wifi and just passing a bridged ethernet connection to the VM?
[20:02] <Oun_> can yu provide some guide?
[20:03] <newb> hitsujiTMO: We loaded the drivers, right? How can we tell if their permanent? I just have to reboot and hope for the best?
[20:03] <Oun_> not sure if that works jhut
[20:03] <jhutchins> Oun_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:03] <k1l_> Oun_: your setup is not a regular ubuntu setup. so please make sure first that vbox is doing the right thing
[20:03] <jhutchins> Oun_: There's nothing special about installing the ath9k driver.
[20:03] <OerHeks> Oun_, edit network settings of your linux image in virtual box before starting virtual box image, wlan should be an option i quess
[20:04] <Oun_> yea its not rocket science for sure:D
[20:04] <jhutchins> Oun_: I work with VMWare, which doesn't pass the actual hardware to the guest, it emulates either an e1000 or the native VMXNET.
[20:04] <Oun_> hmmm Oerheks
[20:05] <Oun_> thats the issue. i only have the eth0 and lo connections. no wlan
[20:05] <Oun_> iwconfig shows no wireless extensions
[20:06] <hitsujiTMO> newb: thats the network driver. need to do the gpu driver next. reboot and test if the network driver is persistent first
[20:06] <Oun_> oh man, this is twisting my braincells
[20:06] <Oun_> and this OS is for einsteins for sure
[20:07] <Oun_> crap
[20:07] <newb> hitsujiTMO: If the persistence worked, would I be able to detect it while browsing the usb stick that has the ubuntu on it?
[20:07] <k1l_> Oun_: please stop the nonsense ranting in here.
[20:08] <Oun_> ranting? just facts
[20:08] <jsdkjsbdfkjlbadf> why dosent ubuntu have a repair all button ?!
[20:08] <k1l_> !guidelines > Oun_
[20:08] <Oun_> u need a course in the Moon to do basic stuff inside this shit
[20:09] <k1l_> Oun_: i give you now a 10min. timeout to read the guidelines and calm down. after that we can start again to solve the technical issue if you stop ranting and stick to the guidelines
[20:09] <mr-tech-guy> Hello everyone
[20:09] <Pume> Repair all button huh? jsdkjsbdfkjlbadf ?
[20:10] <tpw_rules> how can i run a script before the login window comes up? need to fiddle with xinput settings before i can log in
[20:11] <newb> hitsujiTMO: once rebooted, how do I test if the network driver is persistent? You mentioned the icon, but I don't know what to look for.
[20:12] <Vpex> newb: lsmod | grep **name of driver**
[20:14] <mr-tech-guy> I am using putty to SSH into my Server. I am trying to check my  samba  file  login a the root user , using  su -  I typed  /etc/samba/smb.conf and I get Permission denied. What am I doing wrong?
[20:15] <hitsujiTMO> newb: just try to use the net. from the cli: ping goolge.com           or whatever
[20:16] <jhutchins> j vbox
[20:18] <Burrito> hitsujiTMO, I usually try 'ping <IP_ADDRESS>' just in case the DNS is down.
[20:18] <Burrito> jhutchins, [MS Clippit] Looks like you tried to join a channel! Please try /join #vbox :) [/MS Clippit]
[20:21] <antonio__> hi all :D
[20:26] <mojtaba> Hi, I am doing backup of my whole system for the first time with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6899312/
[20:26] <mojtaba> But it is about 20 hours, it is running. Will it stop, or should I ctrl+c it?
[20:26] <mojtaba> Is it a good solution for making a backup?
[20:26] <mojtaba> Please comment.
[20:26] <mr-tech-guy> hello I got a question can some on help?
[20:26] <Oun_> 20 hours? lol
[20:26] <Oun_> what are u using USB1.0?