[04:30] <shinmen> fabbione, Anywhere I can take a look at buildd (sparc) logs? Or a list of the packages that need to be ported to dapper?
[04:32] <fabbione> shinmen: one sec..
[04:33] <fabbione> lamont: can you gimme again the url for the build logs please?
[04:33] <fabbione> it's not in my moz history
[04:33] <fabbione> shinmen: the build logs are available by web
[04:33] <fabbione> there is not much that needs to be ported atm
[04:33] <fabbione> buildd's are munging
[04:33] <fabbione> that will just take some time
[04:34] <lamont> fabbione: {buildd.mmjgroup.com,people.ubuntu.com/~lamont}/buildLogs
[04:34] <shinmen> fabbione, Well, tried to do an apt-get install on wmaker and fluxbox and they weren't available. Had to build them. (as well as menu)
[04:34] <lamont> fabbione: depending on which set you're asking about
[04:34] <lamont> spark is buildd.mmjgroup.com/buildLogs/...
[04:35] <fabbione> shinmen: dapper or breezy?
[04:35] <fabbione> lamont: thanks
[04:36] <shinmen> fabbione, dapper.
[04:36] <fabbione> shinmen: dapper is building
[04:36] <fabbione> it takes time
[04:36] <fabbione> shinmen: and unfortunatly even if you build binaries, i can't upload them to the archive
[04:37] <fabbione> they need to be builded on a buildd
[04:37] <shinmen> Oh I see.
[04:37] <shinmen> fabbione, Wasn't suggesting that. I know about buildd.
[04:37] <fabbione> ok
[04:37] <shinmen> How big is the buildd box?
[04:38] <fabbione> shinmen: we have 2 buildds at the moment
[04:38] <fabbione> and they focus on main first
[04:38] <fabbione> universe is lower priority
[04:38] <fabbione> main > universe > restricted > multiverse
[04:38] <fabbione> basically they focus on main
[04:38] <fabbione> your stuff is all universe :)
[04:38] <fabbione> so it might take longer to get there
[04:39] <shinmen> I can wait. Just moving away from gnome for a couple of days... I don't have the time to debug it... not right know. But I'll get to it.


[01:39] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[06:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:16] <ducasse> good morning
[11:05] <guiverc> I just looked at https://askubuntu.com/questions/1247146/ubuntu-app-store-doesnt-show-any-installed-application , turns out my groovy system does the same. I can't see a cause; if anyone wants to enlighten me please do  (I'm more worried that it's a bug, but I'm tired and won't remember this tomorrow to chase up)
[11:15] <oerheks> guiverc, indeed ..
[11:15] <oerheks> now i cannot reach out to the permissions of a snap :-(
[11:21] <oerheks> guiverc, after full upgrade, it is working again?
[11:29] <guiverc> I've lots of lxqt updates so upgrade hasn't finished... oerheks (also got a lvm package issue that maybe is cause for my system)
[11:29] <oerheks> before updates, i have seen the same behaviour.
[11:36] <guiverc> thanks oerheks, nah no change (but I now wonder if the lvm2 issue (post installation) my system has is cause for me anyway..  (i'll have to fix that to keep exploring on this system)
[14:01] <leftyfb> hggdh-msft: msft?
[14:35] <hggdh-msft> leftyfb: yes, I joined the light side of the dark force
[14:35] <leftyfb> care to share what sort of things you're working on?
[14:36] <hggdh-msft> no prob, for me it is just escalation support for Linux under Azure.
[14:37] <hggdh-msft> the interesting part is I found  some folks I knew there as well.
[14:40] <hggdh-msft> but most of the open source is published on github; as far as I understand, only when a project starts it is considered internal-use
[22:37] <lotuspsychje> good midnight
[22:39] <jeremy31> 37 minutes late
[22:39] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[22:40] <lotuspsychje> its the mosquito's fault
[22:40] <daftykins> early in my timezone (:


[06:45] <sudhackar12> Do we have a documentation of migrating the OLD OVAL endpoint - https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/oval/com.ubuntu.$(lsb_release).cve.oval.xml.bz2 to https://security-metadata.canonical.com/oval/com.ubuntu.$(lsb_release).usn.oval.xml.bz2 ?
[07:17] <ebarretto> sudhackar, it has been a long time since we changed between endpoints
[07:17] <ebarretto> if anyone was still using the old endpoint they were not getting any new oval, it was from back 2021
[07:18] <ebarretto> for any information on oval we are committing to keep this up-to-date: https://ubuntu.com/security/oval


 Hmm. This company no longer exists! https://kubuntu.org/vendors/
 https://kde.org/hardware
[20:11] <valorie> wow
[20:11] <valorie> 4 years ago
[20:12] <valorie> ah, I'm glad they added Zareason
[20:12] <valorie> I bought a lappy from them years ago with Kubuntu on it
[20:13] <valorie> and took shipment of it at the first (and last) Ubuntu conf I ever attended
[20:17] <valorie> I wonder if Nimbusoft ever kicked any money our way?


[00:47] <keithzg> Uhhhh well that's not good, on the first 16.04 system I've tried rebooting after applying the kernel update, it doesn't actually boot anymore . . .
[00:47] <nacc> keithzg: yikes
[00:47] <nacc> keithzg: as in, no boot, or doesn't boot that kernel?
[00:48] <keithzg> nacc: System certainly powers on and gets me to Grub. Choosing cecovery boot just hangs at saying it's loading the initial RAM disk. Choosing the previous kernel instead everything boots fine.
[00:49] <sarnold> keithzg: last time I had a non-booting kernel after update was due to forgetting the linux*extra* package
[00:50] <TJ-> keithzg: what make/model of system? We know of RHEL/CentOS systems also suffering that but no details as yet
[00:51] <TJ-> keithzg: would be good to report this in #ubuntu-kernel so the kernel devs see the info as well as a bug report
[00:52] <keithzg> sarnold: Yeah I don't appear to have linux-image-extra-4.4.0-108-generic installed, but then again I also don't have linux-image-extra-4.4.0-104-generic installed either and that booted fine
[00:53] <keithzg> TJ-: CPU is an Intel i5-4670K, motherboard is an ASUS Z87-A.
[00:53] <TJ-> keithzg: does the size of the /boot/initrd.img for the PTI kernel look sane? as in not truncated
[00:54] <keithzg> TJ-: Yeah, 34969733 which seems about in line with the others sitting there
[00:55] <TJ-> keithzg: is it booting using UEFI or BIOS? and if UEFI, is it using Secure Boot with -signed images?
[00:57] <keithzg> TJ-: Definitely booting via UEFI, admittedly unsure if it's *actually* booting via the -signed image
[01:05] <keithzg> sarnold: Wait, I was just foolishly misreading the dpkg output, I do definitely have the correct linux-image-extra-*-generic packages installed for both this and the previous kernels.
[01:05] <sarnold> keithzg: alright .. I was hoping for an easy "oh yeah" solution :)
[01:06] <keithzg> sarnold: Yeah, me too---and I definitely wouldn't have put it past me to have just human error'd it somehow, still seems like a distinct possibility in fact :D
[01:08] <TJ-> could be related to this, there's a helpful screenshot too https://askubuntu.com/questions/994067/kernel-panic-after-spectre-meltdown-update-16-04
[01:09] <keithzg> I'm not even getting to a kernel panic though :/
[01:10] <TJ-> keithzg: do you seen any messages? it may be the console isn't being drawn at the point it occurs, especially if GRUB is in gfxmode
[01:11] <TJ-> keithzg: I generally switch GRUB to text mode to ensure the display doesn't get blanked, with GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[01:12] <keithzg> TJ-: Hmm do I have to do that even in a recovery boot? I figured that was one of the differences, since in the non-recovery boot the screen was just blank.
[01:13] <TJ-> keithzg: does the system use ZFS ?
[01:13] <keithzg> TJ-: Nope, I'm a btrfs partisan ;)
[01:13] <keithzg> (although that's only for the storage pool, everything's installed to ext4)
[01:14] <keithzg> (well, I mean, /boot is vfat 'cause UEFI but you know)
[01:14] <TJ-> you have /boot/ in the EFI SP ?
[01:15] <keithzg> Ah right sorry it's just /boot/efi that's vfat
[01:19] <keithzg> I'll go off and reboot this again, temporarily editing the recovery session to have GRUB_TERMINAL=console and see if that shows anything more, then (and actually record what it *does* show this time rather than relying on my fallable memory)
[01:27] <keithzg> Ah, right it's just an option in /etc/default/grub, I guess I'll just set that generally and see how it goes in a non-recovery session first.
[01:32] <keithzg> TJ-: Booting with GRUB_TERMINAL=console just ends up making a normal boot show the same thing as a recovery boot, namely "Loading Linux 4.4.0-generic ..." then on the next line "Loading initial ramdisk ..." then on the next line "_" and it just sits there forever.
[01:33] <TJ-> keithzg: OK, one last thing to try, add "debug" to the kernel command line in case we can get *something*
[01:34] <keithzg> Wait sorry I mixed that up, non-recovery just talks about invalid video mode and then says it's booting in blind mode.
[01:34] <TJ-> keithzg: I'll stick to #ubuntu-kernel now so everything is captured in the logs in that channel
[01:34] <keithzg> TJ-: Fair enough
[02:13] <Epx998> Is there any documentation on network installing ubuntu with an uefi filesystem, preseed is tripping me up
[02:16] <strive> Epx998: Maybe this could help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[02:17] <Epx998> strive: I just need to workout my partman junk for uefi - there isnt a lot on it that goes over recipes
[02:17] <Epx998> for us simple admin folk
[02:18] <strive> Ok.
[02:19] <Epx998> i might have found a workable template to start from
[02:20] <Epx998> hmm there is some doc I can install from a package that has everything in it, dang cant remember the package name
[04:32] <trneal> is there an AWS SNS subscription ARN for ubuntu image updates?
[04:33] <Odd_Bloke> trneal: There isn't yet, but it is something we've discussed.
[05:38] <trneal> ah yea, it’s something my company is requiring of me so i’ve gotta make my own I guess haha
[05:39] <trneal> if it ever does happen, would you guys make a news announcement on the blog?
[05:41] <Odd_Bloke> trneal: I think we would, yes.
[05:42] <trneal> cool  :)
[05:42] <trneal> thanks for your help Odd_Bloke
[05:42] <Odd_Bloke> trneal: If you're happy to do so, would you mind filing a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-images/+filebug describing what you'd want?
[05:42] <trneal> you got it
[05:44] <Odd_Bloke> Thanks!
[06:18] <cpaelzer> good morning
[06:24] <nacc> cpaelzer: morning (for you :)
[06:24] <nacc> powersj: fyi, figured out the issue with jenkins and will land MPs fixing it tomorrow
[06:54] <cpaelzer> nacc: ok
[06:55] <cpaelzer> nacc: I just sorted out all the branches that I want to review, but need a bit time to actually get to them
[06:55] <cpaelzer> I hope that after your night I at least tackled some of them
[07:06] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:21] <johan-hedin> 40Gbps Network In | 1000Mbps Network Out  | 5TB Transfer can take how much trafic ?
[09:21] <johan-hedin> and load ?
[15:06] <trippeh> hum, vfio apparmor-rules are not beeing added to a VMs unique apparmor profile.
[15:07] <trippeh> SRIOV managed hostdev networking
[15:12] <trippeh> libvirt
[15:13] <cpaelzer> trippeh: they are in my tests at least - what release are you on?
[15:14] <cpaelzer> trippeh: and can you share the xml snippet that you use to define the hostdev?
[15:14] <trippeh> cpaelzer: Artful
[15:15] <cpaelzer> ... deploying a system with working SR-IOV on artful ...
[15:15]  * cpaelzer thanks MAAS
[15:16] <trippeh> cpaelzer: https://pastebin.com/raw/Gr55tFMv
[15:17] <cpaelzer> uh I see - it is a hostdev type network and a "normal" interface define
[15:17] <cpaelzer> hrm
[15:17] <cpaelzer> let me take a look, but there is a chance that virt-aa-helper at the time invoked has no context to detect that
[15:17] <cpaelzer> I'll ping you back in a bit ...
[15:17] <trippeh> thanks :)
[15:18] <trippeh> I can always workaround it, but.
[15:19] <cpaelzer> sure you can, but it is either breaking guest isolation slightly or a real bruden to manage it
[15:19] <cpaelzer> if the context doesn't hold the info there is not much I can do, but I want at least to check the details
[15:19] <trippeh> I see another VM has the vfio entries in the profile - but that one is also has other pci devices mapped in.
[15:20] <trippeh> (not network related)
[15:31] <cpaelzer> trippeh: yeah that is what I meant with "normal" hostdev
[15:31] <cpaelzer> that virt-aa-helper can read
[15:31] <cpaelzer> drill down to the actual entries, and add to the profile
[15:32] <trippeh> adding the VF pci devices as normal hostdevs you mean?
[15:33] <cpaelzer> yeah that is what work AFAIK
[15:33] <trippeh> that is a pain to manage, especially with vlans and such
[15:33] <cpaelzer> sure
[15:33] <cpaelzer> it is a balance of effort all the time
[15:34] <cpaelzer> the storage pools have a similar issue in that virt-aa-helper can just not tap "into" them
[15:34] <cpaelzer> I recently extended some code but it doesn't cover all of it yet
[15:34] <cpaelzer> I have a meeting soon with the original author of most of the libvirt apparmor code and hope he might have some good ideas how to better integrate those devices
[15:35] <cpaelzer> and in that regard the extternal hostdev network is very similar to the storage pools
[15:35] <trippeh> yeah
[15:35] <cpaelzer> instead of the guest owning it it just refers to an external entity
[15:35] <cpaelzer> At least after my check I should be able to add to the known bug that these kind of devices are affected as well
[15:36] <trippeh> I think I will apply the workaround in the mean time, that is updating the abstractions/ thing with vfio paths
[15:36] <trippeh> its not a high security environment or anything :)
[15:39] <trippeh> hm I guess local/usr.lib.libvirt.virt-aa-helper
[15:39] <cpaelzer> no that is what virt-aa-helper is allowed to access
[15:40] <cpaelzer> the libvirt-qemu thins
[15:40] <trippeh> right
[15:40] <cpaelzer>  /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/libvirt-qemu
[15:44] <trippeh> it boots \o/
[15:59] <cpaelzer> trippeh: assumption confirmed - I added your example to 1677398
[16:18] <georgem1> I updated the kernel on Ubuntu 16.04 to 4.4.0-109.132 and now I get: apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="libvirt-fac20622-50e9-4ec5-ada1-fca9568a4386" name="/proc/6038/task/24889/comm" pid=24888 comm="qemu-system-x86" requested_mask="wr" denied_mask="wr" fsuid=114 ouid=114 for every operation inside the kvm guest
[16:19] <georgem1> I also updated libvirt-bin from 1.3.1-1ubuntu10.15 to 2.5.0-3ubuntu5.6~cloud0
[16:25] <cpaelzer> georgem1: that is a non critical deny which is fixes in newer releases
[16:25] <cpaelzer> let me fetch the bug to remember the details
[16:27] <cpaelzer> there are two similar ones - one where qemu wants to write to the log who send it a kill signal
[16:27] <cpaelzer> but that is not yours
[16:27] <cpaelzer> your case georgem1 is the debug-threads features
[16:27] <cpaelzer> or debug name I need to check
[16:27] <cpaelzer> TL;DR - qemu tries to rename it's threads for more readability
[16:27] <cpaelzer> but is denied to do so
[16:28] <cpaelzer> upstream https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1369281
[16:29] <cpaelzer> -name debug-threads=on is triggering that feature of qemu
[16:29] <cpaelzer> I'd not see how a kernel updated would be related thou
[16:30] <cpaelzer> georgem1: I think the upgrade to the newer libvirt enabled that
[16:30] <cpaelzer> https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2016-March/msg00428.html
[16:30] <cpaelzer> but TL;DR not critical
[16:37] <georgem1> ok, thanks
[17:52] <Epx998> Can someone point me to some preseed uefi examples?
[17:56] <ahasenack> nacc: what is the git-ubuntu lint checking with this test:
[17:56] <ahasenack> Verified old/debian is the same commit as old/debian
[17:57] <nacc> ahasenack: i take it you are using a namespace of '' ?
[17:57] <nacc> ahasenack: we should probably shortcircuit those checks inn that case
[17:57] <nacc> normally it's checking that old/debian matches pkg/old/debian
[17:57] <ahasenack> what sets the namespace?
[17:57] <ahasenack> ah, pkg
[17:57] <nacc> or rather ahsenack/old/debian
[17:57] <ahasenack> would that be whatever I gave it in merge start?
[17:57] <ahasenack> "git ubuntu merge start ubuntu/devel" vs "git ubuntu merge start pkg/ubuntu/devel"?
[17:58] <nacc> well, most often nthose are the same commit
[17:58] <nacc> so no
[17:58] <nacc> the goal is to check that your merge is curret
[17:58] <nacc> and is merginng what we expect
[17:58] <nacc> e.g., if you race someonne else doing the merge
[17:58] <nacc> or if there's a new upload to debia
[17:58] <ahasenack> hm
[17:59] <ahasenack> because I'm getting a failure,
[17:59] <ahasenack> Verified old/ubuntu exists
[17:59] <ahasenack> W: Expected old/ubuntu (0ddfe85c73cda4785965a063546d026a753d1d4c) is not the same commit as old/ubuntu (4e4074eadda2c0d637d032a7a4e9dbba0f9b0506)
[17:59] <ahasenack> trying to understand it
[17:59] <ahasenack> that could be that a new ubuntu package was uploaded, for example?
[17:59] <nacc> ahasenack: yes
[17:59] <nacc> ahasenack: what repo?
[17:59] <ahasenack> nacc: net-snmp
[18:00] <nacc> ahasenack: i am i the middle of debugginng/fixinng your binnd9 bug, can you show me the repo, the commits, etc? (pastebin)
[18:04] <ahasenack> nacc: lint: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26361488/https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26361488/
[18:04] <ahasenack> er
[18:04] <ahasenack> nacc: lint: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26361488/
[18:04] <ahasenack> nacc: 0ddfe85c73cda4785965a063546d026a753d1d4c: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26361506/
[18:04] <ahasenack> nacc: 4e4074eadda2c0d637d032a7a4e9dbba0f9b0506 https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26361509/
[18:04] <nacc> ahasenack: so line 7 is the bit that is showinng the namespace (sort of)
[18:05] <ahasenack> bionic has 5.7.3+dfsg-1.7ubuntu1
[18:05] <ahasenack> should I pass it pkg?
[18:05] <nacc> let me read
[18:06] <nacc> one sec
[18:06] <ahasenack> --lint-namespace pkg doesn't work, then it doesn't find any of the tags
[18:06] <nacc> ahasenack: right
[18:06] <nacc> ahasenack: you're not llinting pkg/
[18:06] <nacc> so that doesn't make sense
[18:08] <nacc> ahasenack: it's a bit odd that your ubuntu/devel is not tracking pkg/ubuntu/devel
[18:08] <nacc> ahasenack: that's what it is complaining about
[18:08] <nacc> ahasenack: i think this is an older import, right?
[18:08] <ahasenack> how can I set that tracking?
[18:08] <ahasenack> nacc: could be
[18:09] <ahasenack> nacc: from august probably, that's the last time I merged this
[18:09] <nacc> ahasenack: easiest way, probably is `git checkout ubuntu/devel; git reset --hard pkg/ubuntu/devel` and then re-tag old/ubuntu to point there
[18:10] <ahasenack> ok, thanks
[18:10] <nacc> git tag -f old/ubuntu pkg/ubuntu/devel
[18:10] <nacc> or so
[18:10] <nacc> we have a lot of stuff that's a bit broken right now between the two importer algorithms
[18:11] <nacc> ahasenack: technnically the above was aw arninng
[18:11] <nacc> ahasenack: not an error
[18:11] <nacc> the trees matched, which is the technically important bit
[18:11] <nacc> but for parenting, it's good to have the commits match what we think they should too
[18:12] <nacc> that is harder to get wrong with the newer algo
[18:12] <nacc> but also this is why i dont' use local branches for remote-tracking
[18:12] <nacc> e.g., i don't like ubuntu/devel and debian/sid
[18:12] <nacc> just use pkg/ubuntu/devel pkg/debian/sid always
[18:12] <nacc> annd keep pkg uptodate
[18:13] <ahasenack> this merge was so easy I might start from scratch
[18:13] <ahasenack> but let me try the workaround first
[18:13] <nacc> ack
[18:15] <ahasenack> nacc: worked
[18:21] <nacc> ahasenack: cool
[18:31] <nacc> ahasenack: fixed your bind9 issue
[18:31] <ahasenack> \o/
[18:31] <nacc> i need to run an errand, do you want me to throw up an MP so you can do that merge?
[18:32] <nacc> ahasenack: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26361665/
[18:34] <ahasenack> big chunk
[20:47] <nacc> ahasenack: and it's not quite right (although it does fix your bind9 case inadvertently)
[21:26] <nacc> cpaelzer: do you need to pinng LocutusOfBorg on the curl http2 enablemetn?
[22:11] <fullstop> hi all. How do I prevent resolvconf from adding a search entry in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[22:16] <fullstop> oh.  remove the entry from /etc/network/interfaces


[00:39] <sysop2> SturmFlut thanks for asking,  no after I installed touch I get usb 1-1.2.2:device descripter read/64, error -32.
[01:17] <sysop2> that was a red herring, unplugged extra usb I just a black screen. tried fail safe x and it just quits back to the menu.. is there a minimum res requirement or something?
[02:48] <sysop2> should 1280x800 be enough to run touch?
[03:42] <froyo> Hello
[03:42] <froyo> I installed ubuntu-sdk
[03:43] <froyo> and I don't which architure and framework should I use and target.
[03:43] <froyo> know*
[03:43] <froyo> There 14.04 and 15.04 framework, and intel, armfh architure
[03:48] <froyo> Hi, anyone online?
[03:48] <bzoltan_> froyo:  the bq phone is armhf and the emulator is i386. The bq phone is running on 14.10 and on nexus4 you can insall 15.04 already. So it is up to what do you target.
[03:49] <froyo> but I'm using 14.04 development platform.
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:49] <froyo> can I use 14.04 still?
[03:49] <froyo> Hi, good morning.
[03:51] <froyo> bzoltan, also...I don't want to use an emulator...because my pc is 32 bit and slow...Do I need to run every QML app in the emulator?
[03:55] <sysop2> has anyone got this to work on a atom based laptop with touch screen?  I cant find mention of anyone doing it successfully and its starting to worry me.
[03:56] <froyo> the sdk?
[03:56] <sysop2> I installed ubuntu and it came up fine, I install ubuntu touch and rebooted and now it hangs on a black screen. I can get to a root prompt and I am installing the newest intel video drivers and updating all the packages, any other suggestions?
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> sysop2: you want to ask this in #ubuntu
[03:57] <sysop2> ok
[03:58] <froyo> Can I run QML app without using the emulator?
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> !devices | sysop2
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> how can i see the new touch apps like here: https://uappexplorer.com/apps
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> seems like new apps, just comes into the categories and never show as 'new'?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> space * gives me most recent apps, but not all
[04:22] <froyo> It's not supported by Canonical, it's better to discuss this with the maintainer.
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> froyo: whats not supported?
[04:23] <froyo> oh sorry...it's to my friend
[04:26] <froyo> lotus...are you developing or packaging?
[08:51] <SturmFlut> Regarding the e-mail by Matthias Apitz to the ubuntu-phone mailing list: is it possible to launch the mediaplayer-app from the shell? I tried "ubuntu-app-launch mediaplayer-app file://${PATH}", and the app actually starts and seems to try to play the file, but the result is an error message claiming that "the connection to the background service failed."
[08:54] <SturmFlut> Oh, this particular video also fails when I start playback through the Video scope. Strange. It was indexed correctly by the mediascanner, but now it won't play.
[09:00] <popey> i just launched a video from the video scope then looked at the process list
[09:00] <popey> phablet   6237 55.3  3.8<PHONE_NUMBER>4 ?        Ssl  09:59   0:01 mediaplayer-app video:///media/phablet/2541-1C26/Videos/Arctic%20Monkeys%20-%20Do%20I%20Wanna%20Know%20(Official%20Video)-bpOSxM0rNPM.mp4
[09:00] <popey> so you need video:// then the path
[09:00] <popey> SturmFlut: ^
[09:00] <SturmFlut> popey: Ah, thanks a lot, I couldn't get any video to play so I couldn't look it up myself
[09:02] <SturmFlut> popey: I suppose the full command line to launch the media player is "ubuntu-app-launch mediaplayer-app video://${PATH}" then?
[09:02] <mpt> ogra_, renaming the item wouldn’t solve brunch875’s problem
[09:03] <popey> SturmFlut: i guess
[09:06] <NIN101> what's the path of the sms database on the filesystem?
[09:08] <SturmFlut> jamesh: Ping
[09:11] <SturmFlut> popey: Okay, seems like I'm hitting some kind of bug here. If the phone is freshly rebooted and I launch a video via the Video scope, it plays. If I start playback from the command line, the media player starts, but doesn't play the file, and after that the media player just keeps complaining about not being able to communicate with the background service.
[09:11] <popey> lemme try
[09:12] <SturmFlut> popey: I am running into bug 1295062 though, maybe my media database is corrupted
[09:14] <popey> yeah, it doesn't launch here using that method either
[09:15] <popey> oh, it does!
[09:15] <popey> if mediaplayer was closed
[09:15] <popey> works fine
[09:16] <SturmFlut> popey: Okay, was probably because of the other bug then
[09:20] <Azby> Hola/hello
[09:20] <SturmFlut> Azby: Hi
[09:22] <Azby> This a my first time intención a ir chanelar, Id iike todo report a bug in ubuntu touch
[09:22] <Azby> si this the right place?
[09:23] <Azby> Sorry for the autocorrect
[09:24] <SturmFlut> Azby: You can write to the ubuntu-phone mailing list or open a bug report on Launchpad.net. This way everyone can see the bug report, not all developers read the messages on this channel.
[09:25] <Azby> OK thank you
[09:27] <popey> Azby: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers is a good place to find out where to file bugs
[09:28] <ogra_> mpt, no, but a lot of confusion around it :)
[09:29] <ogra_> mpt, if it said "quieten notifications" or some such, i would know what to expect ... "silent mode" kind of turns into "mute" in peoples brains (in mine at least :) )
[09:43] <mpt> ogra_, it doesn’t (or shouldn’t) just quieten notifications.
[09:45] <nik90> popey, ogra_: Hey, Unity8 completely froze on my BQ yesterday nite after charging it. I couldn't adb or phablet-shell into it to restart unity8. I had to resort to using the power button to restarting it. Is there another way I can access the phone and get the unity8 logs to help debug issues like this?
[09:46] <mibofra> hi guys, Does anyone remember images like this one http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip installable from recovery? Is there any tool to obtain the flashable zips from for example the latest rootfs of vivid?
[09:46] <popey> nik90: mine froze just now.
[09:47] <popey> but I left it alone and it recovered, I imagine apport ate the cpu
[09:47] <popey> -rw-r-----  1 phablet whoopsie 140K Apr 19 09:32 _usr_bin_unity8.32011.crash
[09:47] <popey> yup, apport writing a crash file
[09:47] <SturmFlut> nik90: This has happened to me a couple of times, and like popey says, it recovered after waiting for a bit
[09:47] <popey> I would let it sit there, so the crash file is written out fully, and then uploaded
[09:48] <popey> that way the unity8 devs can debug it via errors.ubuntu.com
[09:48] <SturmFlut> mibofra: Well, I don't know much about this stuff, but there are files like http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
[09:49] <nik90> ah ok
[09:50] <mibofra> ok but the rootfs into the tarball is not flashable in recovery.
[09:54] <SturmFlut> mibofra: Sorry, no idea.
[09:54] <mibofra> ok
[10:12] <NIN101> are there any plans to add "disk" encryption to ubuntu touch?
[10:19] <cylonmath> is there an easy way to import phone contacts from an android phone (samsung 5360?)
[10:20] <ogra_> NIN101, indeed
[10:20] <ogra_> cylonmath, via google contacts ...
[10:26] <NIN101> ogra_: do you know whether there is some kind of status page or so?
[10:27] <ogra_> NIN101, no, sorry ... but encryption is on the list ... we need greeter multiuser support first for the decryption though ...
[10:29] <ogra_> generally the term "convergence" actually means the whole system though ... not just running apps that adapt to the UI ... the phone will have an identical feature set to the desktop one day ... even on the plumbinng layer...
[10:29] <ogra_> -n
[10:54] <BOHverkill> yes i managed to change the time format from 12h to 24h :)
[10:54] <ogra_> congrats
[10:55] <BOHverkill> ogra_: thx :)
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> ogra_: you know a trick to display latest apps on touch?
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> i tryed space * but not all aps show
[11:16] <ogra_> lotuspsychje, i use the web appstore for tha, it shows them in the order they land in the store
[11:16] <ogra_> search for "appstore" ...
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> ogra_: yeah i got that in my favs, tought there might be a trick to display them 'most recent' on touch
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> would love that in the future, seeing all newest apps in front ubuntu store
[11:18] <nik90> Who decides on the "highlight of the week" in the ubuntu touch stores? Excellent choice for this week :P
[11:50] <Elleo> nik90: couldn't agree more ;)
[11:51]  * ogra_ notes he has only 4 out of 6 essantial apps installed ...
[11:51] <ogra_> they cant be *that* essential then :P
[11:51] <Elleo> heh
[11:51] <nik90> lol
[11:52] <nik90> Elleo: hey btw, listitem.empty clicked signal allows onlinkactivated to also work..so now we can press on episode links :D
[11:53] <Elleo> nik90: great :)
[11:53] <nik90> Elleo: But I cant figure out why it still shows 00:00 for undefined durations :P..that thing is bugging me quite a bit
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> https://twitter.com/hashtag/ubuntuphone?src=hash
[11:54] <Elleo> nik90: yeah, I'll take a look at that after lunch see if I can spot anything
[11:55] <nik90> Elleo: I will just keep testing the branch to see if there are any other issues I can spot and fix meanwhile
[11:56] <Elleo> nik90: okay, cool
[11:58]  * ogra_ wonders if it would make sense to have some framwork similar to the alternate-webapp container for webradio apps ...
[11:59] <ogra_> (with standardized controls ... playlist parsing etc)
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> you know what would be nice, an almost ready webapp so users can drag n drop something and make an app themselfs
[12:04] <ogra_> i'd prefer if the browser had an "bookmark to app" function :)
[12:05] <ogra_> in the burger menu on the top right ...
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> would also be nice
[12:05] <ogra_> essentially the same thing, just inntegrated by default into the browser
[12:05] <ogra_> that would save us from the not-actually-webapps webapps :)
[12:06] <nik90> ogra_: the browser in vivid is so much better..the url bar now acts behaves like a page header where if you scroll up it scrolls as well instead of with a delay like in rtm
[12:06] <nik90> but yeah a bookmark to app would be nice
[12:06] <ogra_> nik90, i still find it awful and jiggly
[12:06] <ogra_> it shouldnt move the webview around when it slides in/out
[12:07] <nik90> ogra_: is it still jiggly for you? It doesn't move the webview around for me anymore in vivid
[12:07] <ogra_> oh, you are right, i'm sure it did the last time i checked :)
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> im happy with devel-proposed webbrowser-app too
[12:07] <ogra_> (that shows how often i use the browser itself i guess :P )
[12:08] <nik90> yeah the browser moving the webview in RTM bugged me quite a bit..happy now though
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> nik90: wich device are you on?
[12:08] <nik90> lotuspsychje: BQ (RTM) and N4 (Vivid)
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> nice
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> nik90: nexus7 on devel-proposed here
[12:09] <nik90> ah N7..pretty cool
[12:10] <nik90> its like a small notebook and feels good
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> nexus7 is a tablet
[12:10] <nik90> yes
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> feels very good
[12:12] <nik90> hmm bug 1445527 is strange..lets see if I can reproduce it
[14:12] <popey> hmm http://imgur.com/XCce0Xq
[14:12] <popey> 23394 phablet   20   0  363596  43472  22008 S  99.4  4.4 341:15.66 telegram
[14:12]  * popey files a bug
[14:15] <faenil> popey: ouch
[14:22]  * ogra_ LOLs
[14:22] <ogra_> so i just aded audible feedback (a click sound) to the alternate webapp container if you click website links
[14:23] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1445928
[14:23] <ogra_> using an app with that enabled on vivid nearly makes impossible to read the conten because you always have  the volume popup in yur face
[14:23] <ogra_> lovely
[14:23] <popey> ogra_: can you do me a favour and take a screenshot with vol+and vol-?
[14:23] <popey> tell me what the file name is that it makes?
[14:23] <popey> -rw-rw-r-- 1 phablet phablet 423K Apr 19 15:10 screenshot20151019_151011494.png
[14:23] <popey> that's mine
[14:23] <popey> (the YYYYMMDD makes _no_ sense)
[14:24] <ogra_> screenshot20150419_162338910.png
[14:24] <popey> wat
[14:24] <popey> i have loads yesterday that are -rw-rw-r-- 2 phablet phablet 393K Apr 18 09:58 screenshot20155818_095843963.png
[14:24] <popey> like that
[14:25] <popey> I'm on the retail phone here.
[14:25] <ogra_> that month seems a slight bit in the future :)
[14:25] <popey> in fact loking back over the month, none of them are right
[14:25] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10850919/
[14:25] <popey> haha i see what it is
[14:26] <popey> someone has mixed %m and %M
[14:26] <popey> the minute is where the month should be
[14:26] <ogra_> well, seems fixed in vivid
[14:26] <popey> ok
[14:27] <popey> thanks
[14:27] <ogra_> geez ... tha volume popupp is annoying
[14:27]  * ogra_ checks where that MP was with the fix ...
[14:27] <popey> irritating that on the phone, screenshots have a sane format, yet on the desktop our default screenshot app has colons and spaces in the file name
[14:28] <popey> "Screenshot from 2015-04-19 15:27:52" is a stupid filename
[14:28] <ogra_> yes
[14:28] <ogra_> comes from gnome i think
[14:28] <popey> only 3 years ago... bug 1054808 was filed
[14:28] <ogra_> we use the default app iirc
[14:28] <ogra_> well, unity8 will fix that ;)
[14:28] <popey> holy cow they finally fixed it upstream
[14:28]  * popey falls over
[14:42] <mariogrip> popey: status on http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?
[14:43] <popey> ogasawara_: ^ do you know?
[14:43] <popey> mariogrip: ogasawara_ is probably a better person to ask as she is (I think) the biggest consumer of that service.
[14:43] <ogasawara_> popey: we were told Mon
[14:43] <popey> ok, thanks.
[14:43] <mariogrip> ok
[14:44] <popey> sorry it's not sooner mariogrip
[14:46] <mariogrip> popey: it's fine, i have have other stuff while i wait. (like ril)
[14:48]  * mariogrip sees that the grammar is way off after he presses the "enter" key
[14:50] <ogra_> file a bug against the keyboard then :)
[14:51] <mariogrip> ogra_: :P
[15:09] <faenil> took some pictures with flash last evening...auto white balancing of close subjects is completely nuts :D is the white balancing done in qtmultimedia plugins? or is it at a lower level?
[15:09] <faenil> (BQ -> devel-proposed)
[15:11] <ogra_> faenil, you should ask Kaleo during the week ...
[15:11] <faenil> ok, thanks ;)
[15:20] <faenil> woah, vibrator got stuck while receiving a notification, I read about this in this chat already, iirc
[15:23] <ogra_> yeah, fix is ready, needs to land
[16:03] <faenil> ogra_: ok thanks
[16:45] <faenil> ouch, hard reboot at the end of a phonecall
[16:45] <faenil> :/
[17:07] <Sleep_Walker> 1] How can I set up tethering?
[17:07] <Sleep_Walker> 2] I still haven't connected to Aquaris through adb shell, device is not visible in `adb devices' - what can be wrong?
[17:08] <Sleep_Walker> android devices are visible...
[17:08] <Sleep_Walker> yes, I enabled developer access
[17:14] <SturmFlut> Sleep_Walker: ADB shell will only work if the device is unlocked
[17:15] <Sleep_Walker> what is unlocking in this context?
[17:15] <ogra_> screen unlockin
[17:15] <ogra_> g
[17:16] <Sleep_Walker> OK, I unplugged and plugged again with unlocked screen - no change...
[17:17] <ogra_> where doesthe adb on your PC come from ?
[17:17] <Sleep_Walker> ugh
[17:17] <Sleep_Walker> it's a bit complicated :)
[17:18] <Sleep_Walker> openSUSE package android-tools run through altered LD_LIBRARY_PATH from different root filesystem
[17:18] <ogra_> well, if it isnt from the phablet-tools PPA or from a recent ubuntu archive package (utopic and vivid should work out of the box) then you might need to restart the adb server on the PC with sudo
[17:19] <ogra_> the package ships udev rules that you might miss ...
[17:19] <Sleep_Walker> good point
[17:19] <ogra_> adb kill-server; sudo adb devices
[17:19] <Sleep_Walker> nope, I wrote the rule myself
[17:19] <ogra_> ... and then try adb shell again
[17:20] <Sleep_Walker> it doesn't seem to be the problem either
[17:20] <ogra_> (just to rule out any issues with the rule)
[17:21] <ogra_> are you sure that setup you run there has full access to /dev ?
[17:22] <ogra_> developer mode works definitely fine with an ubuntu host ... (teh daily device test run through that, it woould ring a lot of alarm bells if that broke)
[17:23] <ogra_> tethering: androoid-gadget-service enable rndis
[17:23] <ogra_> you can run that in the terminal-app
[17:24] <ogra_> (only tested on ubuntu, not sure if/how suses network manager gets along with that)
[17:24] <ogra_> oh, "android-gadget-service" (one o )
[17:24] <Sleep_Walker> rndis is cable protocol - is there some wifi way?
[17:24] <ogra_> not yet, no
[17:24] <Sleep_Walker> ok
[17:24] <Sleep_Walker> thanks!
[17:25] <ogra_> (being worked on, but there are some driver issues with AP mode that need solving first)
[17:25] <Sleep_Walker> yeah, I can imagine
[17:25] <ogra_> the wonderful world of binary drivers :)
[17:34] <Sleep_Walker> if you say 'being worked on' - where is the VCS to follow?
[18:31] <BOHverkill> Sleep_Walker: i had the same problem with arch
[18:33] <BOHverkill> Sleep_Walker: that worked for me: https://askubuntu.com/questions/601324/bq-e4-5-adb-fails
[18:33] <Sleep_Walker> BOHverkill: thanks, I'll try
[18:35] <Sleep_Walker> BOHverkill: oh yeah! thanks!
[18:35] <Sleep_Walker> whitelist of vendors, that makes sense :b
[18:35] <BOHverkill> SturmFlut: np ;)
[18:36] <Sleep_Walker> and, do you know the reasons why I shouldn't install SW using apt?
[18:37] <Sleep_Walker> I noticed the warning but forgot to ask why...
[18:39] <popey> Sleep_Walker: http://askubuntu.com/questions/599488/how-to-install-a-deb-file-in-ubuntu-touch/599489#599489
[18:40] <Sleep_Walker> popey: thanks :)
[18:41] <Sleep_Walker> not that I understand the answer...
[18:41] <popey> you can really only have one package manager in use
[18:41] <popey> the OTA updates is one way, apt is the other
[18:41] <popey> if you use apt, and then OTA update, you may lose your changes
[18:42] <Sleep_Walker> if you mean installed software - it is worth of risk
[18:42] <Sleep_Walker> if you mean user data, it's not nice
[18:42] <sjakie902> today some of my apps lost their icons, does any else had this problem?
[18:42] <sjakie902> http://imgur.com/ClWkgDe
[18:43] <popey> i have seen this
[18:43] <popey> when I switched to vivid.
[18:43] <Sleep_Walker> OTA update is just another snapshot of file system, right?
[18:43] <popey> sjakie902: is this a retail bq phone?
[18:43] <popey> Sleep_Walker: delivered as a diff
[18:43] <sjakie902> retail BQ
[18:43] <popey> hm
[18:44] <popey> you're the third person I have seen mention this, we need to capture this in a bug report
[18:44] <popey> sjakie902: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+filebug can you file a bug and give some detail and attach the screenshot please?
[18:45] <popey> i have a feeling I know what it is.
[18:45] <sjakie902> oke i will file a bug
[18:45] <popey> can you let me have the bug number when you do. thanks
[18:48] <Sleep_Walker> has anyone experimented with overlayfs?
[18:48] <Sleep_Walker> hm, no, that wouldn't be nice solution either :|
[18:56] <sjakie902> bug filed #1445979
[18:57] <Sleep_Walker> the solution for packaging duality would be distribute OTA update as full image - I would only loose newly installed packages (I can keep some list in home partition)
[19:01] <Hen_> Hey guys
[19:01] <Hen_> not sure if this is the right place for asking questions about the ubuntu-sdk
[19:02] <Hen_> but I'm having some problems with my device not being detected
[19:02] <Hen_> It's the Aquaris E4
[19:03] <Hen_> and a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04
[19:51] <Azby> Using my new ubuntu bq 😊
[20:11] <ulrichard> Since only few packages are installable with apt-get on ubuntu touch, I would assume they work. But using cryptsetup I always get : "device-mapper: reload ioctl on  failed: No such file or directory"
[20:12] <Sebsebsebb> Hi
[20:14] <Sebsebsebb> Purple screen on ubuntu bq phone after turning it off and trying to turn on again or after trying to turn it off
[21:48] <nik90> hmm if only the ubuntu touch store could allow developers to reply to their app reviews
[22:01] <genii> That seems like a large oversight on their part.
[22:06] <nik90> well its in the pipeline..just not yet implemented
[22:15] <Sleep_Walker> it seems that android version of aquaris has three "buttons" at the bottom of front side
[22:16] <Sleep_Walker> is the HW still there or was removed for ubuntu version?
[22:17] <k1l> the ubuntu version doesnt have a buton on the front
[22:22] <brunch875> they were removed


[06:53] <Unit193> tsimonq2: Not ubottu, but a clone is there.
[11:50] <tsimonq2> Unit193: OK. Thanks.
[17:38] <Pici> forgotten
[17:38] <Pici> forgotten


[03:17] <charlie-tca> completed kubuntu 64bit desktop and alternate ISO's. only complaint is the language pack does not fully install; this was an old bug report
[03:17] <charlie-tca> Good night
[13:46] <njin> Hello guys, can we have a working Lucid iso so we can test upgrades too ?
[14:46] <Riddell> is this true?  "something is changed after lucid so if you make lucid startup disk in oneiric it won't work"  and if so how do I make a lucid USB startup disk?
[14:49] <Riddell> I get this when testing lucid "unknown keyword in configuration file gfxboot"
[14:50] <jibel> Riddell, bug 645818 , nothing new or regressed in .4
[14:50] <jibel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/645818
[14:51] <jibel> it is in the release notes
[14:52] <Riddell> that looks like it, any workaround?
[14:56] <jibel> at the 'boot:' prompt enter 'live' to boot to a live session or press 'TAB' to get a list of options
[14:58] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[14:58]  * charlie-tca is trying to run the Kubuntu desktop 386 tests this morning
[15:01] <Riddell> thanks jibel
[15:23] <charlie-tca> Riddell: all the kubuntu images work from cd. Should I keep testing them ?
[15:24] <Riddell> charlie-tca: yes please, the bugs found aren't regressions so let's see if we can get all the test cases done to release it
[15:25] <charlie-tca> Okay, will keep going then
[17:04] <Riddell> does lucid work with alternate installs on netbooks?  I get "no common CD drive was detected"
[17:08] <charlie-tca> Mine are all desktops
[19:27] <Riddell> testers needed for Kubuntu Alternate i386 in Lucid 10.04.4  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/207/builds/11918/testcases
[19:27] <Riddell> I can't do Install (auto-resize)
[19:29] <charlie-tca> Okay, I will do that
[19:35] <charlie-tca> Riddell: I will go right down the line on those. I did not read the comments when I saw them started
[19:35] <Riddell> charlie-tca: how do you mean right down the line?
[19:36] <charlie-tca> I will just work through all the alternate tests that are not completed
[19:36] <Riddell> I am doing Install (OEM setup) but I don't have any machine to do resize on and iso tracker does not let me untick he "running" entry
[19:36] <charlie-tca> Yeah, it gets finnicky sometimes. There might be a delete button at the bottom, if you click the pencil in the right column
[19:37] <charlie-tca> I can any of the tests you need me to, though
[19:37] <charlie-tca> Well, except that netbook live session and wubi
[19:47] <Riddell> anyone My head is too ill to continue, please take over  Install (OEM setup) in Kubuntu Alternate i386 for Lucid 10.04.4
[19:47] <Riddell> charlie-tca: FYI ^^
[19:47] <charlie-tca> Will do.
[19:48] <charlie-tca> Get some rest. I will keep working on the image and try to get the tests done
[19:48] <Riddell> we also need Wubi on Kubuntu Desktop i386 in Lucid 10.04.4
[19:48] <charlie-tca> Okay, will try to find someone for that
[20:00] <charlie-tca> Can someone run wubi tests on Kubuntu lucid?
[20:01]  * charlie-tca feels very lonely today in -testing
[21:29] <charlie-tca> Still hoping someone can run the wubi tests for Kubuntu Lucid
[21:31] <charlie-tca> Mandatory Kubuntu Alternate 386 tests are done, starting the one-time tests