    Different package names.  I'm an idiot.
[01:47] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: [artful] r326 * Update elementary-xfce to v0.9, including two additional c... (by Sean Davis)
[06:26] <flocculant> Unit193: packageset confuses me - and I've lost link I had to it - but if ubuntu loses system-config-printer will we need to add that ?
[09:25] <bluesabre> flocculant: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/artful/xubuntu
[09:26] <bluesabre> We'll need it if we want to upload it
[09:26] <bluesabre> oh
[09:26] <bluesabre> and probably add it to our seed to keep it
[10:02] <tracker8> Hi
[10:54] <flocculant> bluesabre: thanks - reason for the confusion and question is > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2017-September/005191.html
[11:03] <Unit193> flocculant: We seed it, as a general rule we care not about what 'ubuntu-desktop' meta/seed does.  It's 'standard' and 'minimal' we do.
[11:04] <flocculant> aah right - it's the -desktop, standard, minimal stuff I was confusing then
[11:05] <flocculant> just thought I'd mention it before they lose it and we do because
[11:08] <Unit193> Yep, understandable, thanks.
[11:08] <flocculant> np
[18:04] <flocculant> for the sake of clarity (for me) where can I find -standard and -minimal ?
[20:12] <krytarik> flocculant: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.artful


[01:04] <studio-user931> join
[01:04] <studio-user931> hi
[16:44] <zed1234> since updating the kernel, I can no longer boot. I just get a kernal stack trace. Anyone else have this problem?
[16:45] <OvenWerks> I am using 16.04 and have not had that problem... maybe I should update and reboot ;)
[16:46] <zed1234> I am assuming the kernel update is to fix the Meltdown problem. The datestamp on the new kernel is 01/07/2018
[16:46] <zed1234> supposedly you can append nopti to the kernel options and bypass the KPTI changes, but this has no effect for me
[16:47] <zed1234> btw, I too am using 16.04
[16:48] <OvenWerks> I am doing an upgrade now.
[16:49] <zed1234> i am at work now, the problem is on my home computer, so I can't remember exactly, but the name of the kernel (w/ the problem) ends in -108. The previous (good) kernel ends in -104. Do you know if you are using kernel -108?
[16:50] <OvenWerks> it says 103
[16:50] <OvenWerks> 4.4.0-103-lowlatency
[16:51] <zed1234> after your update see if it says 4.4.0-108-lowlatency
[16:54] <zed1234> or does it say 4.4.0-103-lowlatency after your update?
[16:55] <zed1234> be back in about 1 hour
[16:56] <OvenWerks> update is at 53% download...
[16:59] <OvenWerks> It says it is downloading 109
[16:59] <OvenWerks> So maybe boot on the older kernel and reupdate
[17:12] <OvenWerks> reboot...
[17:14] <OvenWerks> ~$ uname -a
[17:14] <OvenWerks> Linux music 4.4.0-109-lowlatency #132-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Tue Jan 9 20:43:47 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:15] <OvenWerks> zed1234: so I can't answer your question about 108 but guessing from how fast 109 has come out, 108 may have had a problem for others too.
[19:34] <zed1234> OvenWerks thanks


[15:54] <jbicha> highvoltage: congrats on taking over gnome-panel :)
[15:55] <jbicha> what desktop do you normally use?
[16:24] <highvoltage> jbicha: gnome fallback session
[17:27] <Nadeem> Hi
[17:28] <designbybeck__> Ok now on to some other questions! Edubuntu is to big to run on some of the older machines I've worked with for the public. I've used Qimo and/or just LinuxMint XCFE for light installs
[17:28] <designbybeck__> any straight up Edubuntu package for Light / Old machines?
[17:29] <stgraber> not really, the lightest we ship with is gnome-fallback and we don't have strong plans to ship another desktop environment just yet as we're trying to reduce our install media size
[17:29] <Nadeem> I have only tried LTSP-Live on system that have one NICs, the dialog says ok. Then Inetwork  boot other system, the system boots up fine, then I enter a username, it lands on a screen with just the wallpaper
[17:29] <stgraber> however it's easy to either install the Edubuntu packages on top of lubuntu/xubuntu or to install another desktop environment on top of Edubuntu
[17:30] <Nadeem> designbybeck__: Yeah, just install xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop
[17:30] <stgraber> Nadeem: what version of Edubuntu was that?
[17:30] <Nadeem> 12.04 Sir
[17:30] <stgraber> Nadeem: was that the 12.04 release media or 12.04.1?
[17:30] <designbybeck__> i haven't been a fan of xubuntu, it seems lacking and very stock. I would have hoped for LinuxMint XCFE style
[17:30] <stgraber> we had a bug that sounds like what you're describing but I believe it's been worked around in 12.04.1
[17:31] <designbybeck__> even thought overall I'm not a fan of LinuxMint
[17:31] <Nadeem> stgraber: I am using the 12.04.1 ISO only
[17:31] <Nadeem> designbybeck__: Bro, it will give you a Xfce  desktop
[17:31] <stgraber> Nadeem: hmm, ok. Next time you try, on the login screen, try to explicitly choose the Unity 2D session or the gnome fallback session. My guess is that LTSP is trying to open a 3D session on that machine and failing badly at it.
[17:32] <Nadeem> stgraber: tried that
[17:32] <designbybeck__> yes Nadeem just the LM XCFE is pretty polished I feel. Xubuntu just doesn't seem polished, just like they left it hangin'
[17:32] <Nadeem> With gnome fallback
[17:32] <designbybeck__> I haven't tired gnome fallback in awhile though so maybe I should give that a go
[17:33] <stgraber> Nadeem: hmm, that's odd... so it's not that weird gnome-session bug then. Any chance you can try 12.10 to see if that somehow got resolved in there?
[17:33] <Nadeem> stgraber: I will get the 13.04 alpha build then
[17:34] <Nadeem> the dload are big and I am from India
[17:34] <Nadeem> get 50 kbps here :D
[17:34] <Nadeem> that way I can try the latest stuff in the arsenal
[17:35] <Nadeem> stgraber: About that 2 nics stuff, is it possible to get LTSP(installed) working with 1 nic
[17:40] <stgraber> Nadeem: it's if that network is completely isolated. If it's the same network you use to access internet, then no, ltsp live won't work with that.
[17:40] <stgraber> Nadeem: we'll get support for single NIC LTSP server when in an Edubuntu server domain though but that's a pretty different use case and won't work from the live media
[17:41] <Nadeem> stgraber: Thanks brother, then that is the reason why it isn't working.
[17:47] <Nadeem> I will taking your leave now(late here). Thanks once again stgraber and highvoltage.