[00:01] <trism> yeah, that isn't a podcast feed though
[00:02] <BUGabundo> did you find the proper one ?
[00:08] <trism> there are several on the site, such as http://www.rtp.pt/multimedia/videocast/gera_podcast_tv.php?prog=1103 but I don't see any for that program unfortunately (I can't read the site though so I may have missed it)
[00:20] <BUGabundo> np trism
[00:20] <BUGabundo> thanks a lot
[01:27] <MarloweGirl> Hi, I wanted to try Oneiric & created a USB, but mouse & keyboard aren't working at the login screen. Anyone have any suggestions?
[03:28] <CarlFK> 2011-06-08 installed nightly.  it loads yenta_socket module, which my firewire EC card needs.  current nightly does not load it by default.  If I modprobe it, firewire card works.
[03:28] <CarlFK> any idea why it isn't loaded by default?
[03:29]  * CarlFK checks config...
[03:30] <CarlFK> both are same kernel, so this shows the same: grep -i yenta /boot/config-2.6.39-3-generic; CONFIG_YENTA=m
[04:11] <CarlFK> snd-hda-intel is no longer loaded either.  that seems to be something that just happened today.
[06:52] <head_victim> Is there any point enabling -proposed in a +1 release?
[07:00] <rww> head_victim: no
[07:00] <head_victim> rww: just checking, didn't think it would matter but you can never be too sure
[07:01] <rww> head_victim: as far as I know, the only repository that actually has stuff in it for +1 is the regular one (e.g. oneiric, rather than oneiric-backports,proposed,security,updates...)
[07:01] <rww> and then once it's released, the others start being used
[07:01] <head_victim> Makes sense but I figured no harm in just double checking
[07:02] <micahg> right, backports will probably start being used after feature freeze, but that's not guaranteed yet
[08:48] <Ian_Corne> MarloweGirl: is it each time you boot it?
[11:13] <MarloweGirl> Ian-Corne, yeah I made a live USB and when I boot from it, I can't login. I can't do anything really. It shows "Live User" as user name and asks for pw (which is different from usual Live images, which boot straight to desktop) but mouse and keyboard are completely unresponsive.
[11:40] <Ian_Corne> Is this from alpha1 or a nightly build?
[11:40] <Ian_Corne> I've not seen that problem passing by here yet, but I think most people here atm just upgrade
[11:40] <Ian_Corne> d
[11:48] <MarloweGirl> It was from 10th June Nightly. (I had tried the alpha 1 a few days earlier but couldn't get it to boot at all)
[11:49] <MarloweGirl> I might try again, but once I'm at the login screen, I'll try unplugging the keyboard, then replugging it in and see if that makes it work
[11:49] <MarloweGirl> I just wondered if this was a known problem and had a solution that didn't involve crawling under desks & fighting dust bunnies :)
[11:53] <Ian_Corne> Didn't see the problem yet
[11:53] <Ian_Corne> but the keyboard didn't respond at al?
[11:53] <MarloweGirl> No, couldn't type anything, couldn't move the mouse
[11:54] <Ian_Corne> I've had that before (in 8.04 or 8.10) and requried me to restart dbus via ssh
[11:54] <MarloweGirl> My keyboard & mouse are both USB, don't know if that's the issue
[11:54] <Ian_Corne> but the live cds don't have ssh
[11:58] <MarloweGirl> I'll try again using a different USB drive and see if I can do anything to make it work. Just wondered if there was anything obvious to try.
[11:58] <MarloweGirl> I'll let you know how I get on :)
[12:00] <Ian_Corne> ok :)
[12:19] <dsdale> I'm having a some trouble with wireless networking since upgrading to the oneiric alpha, and haven't been able to find any info on the web. Kubuntu's network manager plasmoid is just a red box with a white x in it, and when I attempt to scan for networks, it comes up with an empty list. Can anyone here comment?
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[12:22] <Ian_Corne> it's a know issue dsdale
[12:23] <dsdale> thanks Ian_Corne, is it possible to find more information somewhere?
[12:23] <Ian_Corne> hmm
[12:23] <Ian_Corne> well, i don't know if it's fixable
[12:24] <dsdale> I mean more along the lines of status, or bug reports
[12:24] <Ian_Corne> I don't have a specific bugreport no sorry
[12:25] <dsdale> ok. it is helpful to know that I didn't somehow screw up come configuration during the upgrade. thanks
[12:26] <dsdale> Does anyone have information concerning kde updates in oneiric, how 4.7 is coming along?
[12:27] <MarloweGirl> Back from trying to login again! Still not working. The mouse pointer is frozen in the middle of the screen and the keyboard is dead. There are no lights on it at all, not even NumLock or CapsLock. Unplugging/replugging didn't work.
[12:27] <MarloweGirl> I've been googling the Ubuntu forums a little and I think I'm not the only one. A couple of folks have reported this problem. I think it's a problem with the daily builds from the last couple of days.
[12:28] <MarloweGirl> I think I'll just wait a couple of days and hope the problem is fixed and try again.
[12:30] <Ian_Corne> you can also install natty and upgrade
[12:31] <MarloweGirl> Doh! That hadn't occurred to me! I'll try that. Thanks! :)
[12:34] <Ian_Corne> np!
[12:34] <BluesKaj> dsdale, Wednesday, June 22, 2011: KDE 4.7 Release Candidate 1 Release
[12:35] <BluesKaj> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.7_Release_Schedule#Wednesday.2C_June_22.2C_2011:_KDE_4.7_Release_Candidate_1_Release
[12:36] <Ian_Corne> the kubuntu ppa is updated
[12:36] <dsdale> BluesKaj, I thought I heard that it would take some time to provide ubuntu packages
[12:37] <Ian_Corne> ah no
[12:37] <BluesKaj> dsdale, you may be right , I haven't heard much about any ppas or backports
[12:37] <Ian_Corne> i read 4.6.4 ppa :(
[12:38] <dsdale> if you go to http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ , oneiric is not listed
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Ian_Corne, not for "O"..I had an update on my other box running 11.04
[12:39] <BluesKaj> to 4.6.4
[12:40] <dsdale> will oneiric skip 4.6.4 and go straight to 4.7?
[12:41] <BluesKaj> dsdale, yeah, that appears to be the case, I read 4.7 was goinf tyo be default for O
[12:41] <BluesKaj> going to be
[12:42] <jtaylor> 4.7 won't be out until april next year?
[12:42] <jtaylor> or ahve they changed their release policy?
[12:43] <jtaylor> ah kde not gcc :/
[12:43]  * jtaylor should read properly ^^
[12:44] <BluesKaj> jtaylor, http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.7_Release_Schedule#Wednesday.2C_July_27.2C_2011:_KDE_4.7_Release
[12:44] <Ian_Corne> :D
[12:44] <yofel> well, until we know more you can pretty much throw that schedule out of the window. I mean... we don't even have beta2 yet
[12:46] <dsdale> did I read correctly that 4.6.4 includes the long-awaited transition to akonadi? Kind of surprising for a micro release
[12:46] <yofel> and getting kdepim 4.6 out has a higher priority currently than 4.7
[12:47] <yofel> dsdale: well, from a KDE point yes, but we don't ship them together (we're not even done yet)
[12:47] <yofel> we won't put them into the same PPA either (kdepim will be in backports probably)
[12:48] <dsdale> ok, that actually seems sensible
[12:50] <BluesKaj> I hope the dependencies aren't so large that if one wants to delete akonadi , it doesn't take all of kde with it like nepomuk does
[12:50] <dsdale> Will anyone from this community/Canonical be going to the Qt Contributors' Summit?
[12:50] <yofel> well, it will take pretty much the whole of kdepim with it I think
[12:51] <BluesKaj> yofel, then I hope there's an option to disable it
[12:52] <yofel> for kdepim not, 4.6 is tightly integrated with akonadi. kmail for example is pretty much useless without akonadi running
[12:52] <yofel> akonadi isn't as bad as it once was though
[12:54] <BluesKaj> yofel, well I gave up on kmail when kde 4 was intro'd ..it became much to clunky for my taste and needs
[12:54] <BluesKaj> too clunky
[12:54] <yofel> well, I tried kmail2, it's nice but I'm too used to thunderbird by now
[12:55] <BluesKaj> not in a work environment here , just an ordinary home setup
[12:56] <dsdale> as soon as kontact has support for talking to Exchange servers, I can't wait to go back. I like the Kontact suite so much better than Outlook and Apple's Mail and Calendar
[12:56] <BluesKaj> gmail does the job and if it monitors keywords in our emails for advertizing purposes , so be it
[12:57] <Ian_Corne> You're gonna get ads thrown at you anyway, i'd rather have relevant ads then viagra spam
[12:57] <BluesKaj> yeah , no kidding
[12:58] <dsdale> I don't like gmail's conversation view. I wish it worked more like their Reader program, where an entry isn't marked as read until it actually receives focus.
[12:59] <BluesKaj> it would be much different for us in a work/business setup that's for sure , then kmail might be relavent
[13:16] <BluesKaj> interesting tho, XBMC runs smoother in Oneiric than natty and it's more resposive
[13:16] <BluesKaj> err responsive
[13:18] <nanomad> hi
[13:18] <Ian_Corne> I found my flash movies (southpark) to run smoother too, and i was able to view fullscreen without hampering
[13:18] <nanomad> does gnome3 work well under oneiric?
[13:28] <elros> if you want a lean e-mail client, try sylpheed
[13:37] <nanomad> did lightdm replace gdm in ubuntu+1?
[13:38] <wzssyqa> nanomad: y, it did
[13:39] <nanomad> wzssyqa: thanks..no i only need to find out why gnome3 is logging myself out
[13:39] <nanomad> any clues?
[13:43] <yofel> enable apport in /etc/default/apport and check in /var/crash what crashes
[13:47] <Ian_Corne> shoudln't apport be enabled automaticly?
[13:47] <Ian_Corne> also .xsession-errors could give you more information
[13:48] <yofel> IIRC apport isn't enabled automatically til alpha3
[13:48] <yofel> too crashy till then
[13:49] <Ian_Corne> aah
[13:49] <Ian_Corne> ok :)
[13:50] <yofel> (as in: you'll flood LP with bug reports nobody cares about)
[15:29] <BUGabundo> G'aft
[15:29] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, lessfs ppa updated with fresh packages
[15:29] <BUGabundo> ahah
[15:29] <BUGabundo> you didn't !!!
[15:30] <Ian_Corne> :D
[15:31]  * BUGabundo fires a VM
[15:31] <bjsnider> somebody tried to get it into debian about a year ago and had decent packaging scripts available, so the app itself should actually work
[15:32] <bjsnider> i built it for oneiric, natty, and lucid
[15:34] <Ian_Corne> poor maverick :D
[15:36] <BUGabundo> hey
[15:36] <BUGabundo> I still have a machine on it
[15:36] <Ian_Corne> hey
[15:36] <BUGabundo> really need to format it, and get it on natty
[15:37] <BUGabundo> (and get rid of BTRFS)
[15:37] <charlie-tca> Good afternoon, BUGabundo
[15:37] <BUGabundo> oh ahy charlie-tca
[15:39] <charlie-tca> Fedora 16 is going to have BTRFS
[15:40] <BUGabundo> we know
[15:40] <BUGabundo> we discussed that yesterday
[15:40] <Ian_Corne> and BUGabundo marks them crazy
[15:40] <charlie-tca> oh
[15:40] <BUGabundo> get the chat log
[15:41] <charlie-tca> behind again, huh?
[15:41] <BUGabundo> some funny bits in there
[15:41] <BUGabundo> :)
[15:42] <Ian_Corne> is there a dev channel for empathy?
[15:42] <Ian_Corne> doesn't seem like #empathy is it
[16:25] <BUGabundo> meh
[16:25] <BUGabundo> new VM is stuck at installing, cause its trying to download packages
[16:25] <BUGabundo> after I said I didn't want any packages to be downloaded
[16:25] <BUGabundo> fail natty
[16:29] <charlie-tca> The packages downloading you check is for any updates. The installer still needs to download the packages it installs, unless you disconnect from the internet
[16:32] <BUGabundo> yeah, I should have put the vm offline
[16:56] <CarlFK> june 8 2.6.39-3 loaded yenta_cardbus and snd-hda-intel.  now with 2.6.39-3 they are not loaded, so a firewire EC card does not work and I have no sound.
[16:56] <BUGabundo> $ sudo mklessfs dddisk.img
[16:57] <BUGabundo> humm but doesn't show anything in the partition table
[16:57] <BUGabundo> :\\
[16:57] <BUGabundo> bjsnider: ^^^^^^
[16:57] <CarlFK> should I just report these as bugs, or is there something I should be looking for to see what's going on?
[16:58] <CarlFK> BUGabundo: what's mklessfs ?
[16:58] <Ian_Corne> CarlFK: 2.6.39-3 is only a temporary kernel so i'm not sure..
[16:58] <Ian_Corne> 3.0 is already in the repos
[16:58] <BUGabundo> CarlFK: trying a new FS
[16:59] <BUGabundo> LessFS
[16:59] <BUGabundo> online deduping
[16:59] <CarlFK> Ian_Corne: sounds like I should test 3 - is it just an apt-get?
[16:59] <Ian_Corne> yes
[17:00]  * CarlFK yells "to the apt-cave!"
[17:02] <CarlFK> Ian_Corne:  linux-image-3.0-0-generic right?
[17:04] <penguin42> good to get it in this early; it'll be interesting to see how many packages fail because of bogus version compares
[17:06] <Ian_Corne> yes
[17:06] <CarlFK> thanks
[17:09] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, you'd have to talk to the developers about it
[17:09] <BUGabundo> :\
[17:10] <BUGabundo> #lessfs ?
[17:10] <bjsnider> i'm not sure how much documentation there is and whatnot
[17:10] <bjsnider> yes lessfs
[17:10] <BUGabundo> empty
[17:10] <BUGabundo> #openfiler
[17:11] <BUGabundo> heck no
[17:11] <BUGabundo> let me grab some food
[17:32]  * BUGabundo googles lessfs for dummies
[17:50] <BUGabundo>  sudo cp /usr/share/doc/lessfs/examples/lessfs.cfg .
[17:50] <BUGabundo> was the missing step
[17:50] <BUGabundo> now to configure it
[18:55] <Ian_Corne> you guys know if it's possible to change my launchpad ID?
[18:55] <Ian_Corne> nvm i just did :D
[18:56]  * rww notes #launchpad for the future ;)
[19:09] <SudoKing> i'm afraid to restart my computer this time, last time it was saying my hard drive wasn't a system bootable disk ;)
[19:46] <penguin42> rww: Be patient when using it - it normally takes quite a whole for a response, even in the week
[19:50] <BluesKaj> SudoKing, did you run fsck , take a look here, http://linux.die.net/man/8/fsck
[20:51] <rww> yofel: Where should I be hanging out if I want to keep an eye on Kubuntu stuff for +1?
[20:51] <yofel> rww: #kubuntu-devel, we don't bite ;)
[20:51] <rww> alrighty, thanks :)
[20:52]  * rww wants /some/ notice if his KDE is going to break :)
[20:54] <yofel> rww: see the 4.6.80 link in the topic, until everything there is in the PPA at least you don't have to worry...
[21:03]  * Ian_Corne wonders what goes on in ubuntu+2
[21:14] <rww> Ian_Corne: #ubuntu+2 is +if, presumably to here.
[21:14] <Ian_Corne> +if ?
[21:15] <Ian_Corne> it's invite only
[21:15] <rww> +i is invite-only, +f means it forwards somewhere. If you're already in the channel it forwards to, you get a message about it being invite-only.
[21:17] <Ian_Corne> aah k
[23:07] <Ian_Corne> I find it funny that they managed to break the notification for sound increase or decrease :p


[05:37] <mapps> hi :D
[06:27] <mapps> noone around again
[06:27] <mapps> where's all the night owls/ones that dont sleep;p
[09:33] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:41]  * brobostigon waves at mapps
[12:50] <penguin42> hmm blue sky here today
[13:05] <zmoylan-pi> first day i can't hear rain since before crimbo
[13:08] <penguin42> all the rain is in york today I think
[13:13] <zmoylan-pi> and my hope was just crushed by the headline... http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/seeing-a-respite-from-the-rain-not-for-long-sorry-713098.html
[13:21] <penguin42> hmph and you have to register for the service that bytemark put their webcam on
[20:07] <diplo> Evening all, anyone about tonight, notice its been a tad quiet :)
[20:08] <penguin42> hey diplo
[20:08] <zmoylan-pi> people are sleeping off a few kg of turkey i suspect
[20:08] <diplo> hey penguin42 / zmoylan-pi  :) and probably yeah
[20:08] <zmoylan-pi> or trying to read manuals not written in english
[20:08] <diplo> Just wondering if anyone here has done any soldering and stuff in recent years, I haven't but want to order a soldering iron
[20:09] <zmoylan-pi> or trying to work out how to fetch a drone that's stuck somewhere out of reach
[20:09] <diplo> Just don't know whether a £10 would be suffice for some soldering for doing some home auto stuff
[20:10] <penguin42> diplo: I do a little but I'm pretty awful at it
[20:11] <zmoylan-pi> ditto, a cheap iron from maplins should do 99% of what you want
[20:11] <penguin42> diplo: The basic thing to get right is the size of the tip and power; you get some huge ones for doing plumbing/stained glass work that are completely useless for soldering electronic projects
[20:12] <diplo> Thinking of something like this...
[20:12] <diplo> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-61257-230V-Soldering-Iron/dp/B00MEEYB46/ref=sr_1_5?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1451246441&sr=1-5&keywords=soldering+iron
[20:12] <penguin42> right, you don't want that
[20:12] <diplo> Can buy different tips for it
[20:12] <diplo> Not powerful enough ?
[20:12] <penguin42> hmm ok
[20:12] <zmoylan-pi> my last few irons were gas powered jobbies as i like the idea of portability
[20:12] <penguin42> it is only 25w I guess
[20:13] <penguin42> so it should be ok for small electronic stuff
[20:13] <penguin42> can't really tell how big the top is
[20:13] <diplo> Basically want to tinker with home auto stuff, going to buy some bread boards, temp sensors etc and start tinkering with basics in the attempt to extend over the next few weeks/months
[20:14] <penguin42> I geuss that sohuld be OK actually but I can't really tell the tip size
[20:15] <penguin42> I'm used to the little Antex things http://www.amazon.co.uk/Antex-XS25-Powered-Mains-Soldering/dp/B00862W052/ref=sr_1_1?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1451247214&sr=1-1&keywords=soldering+iron+antex
[20:15] <diplo> No it's a bit hard, may go for a trip to Maplins
[20:16] <penguin42> yeh they wont be cheap
[20:19] <diplo> yeah i checked their site yesterday, don't want to spend a fortune until I'm sure I'm going to be keeping it up :D
[20:20] <diplo> But I guess it's always good to have a decent soldering iron, want to have a go at fixing my 360 and other stuff
[20:20] <diplo> I've not done anything for probably 15-20 years :D
[20:21] <diplo> Last stuff I did was actually braizing, similar technique
[20:23] <daftykins> what's your 360 got wrong?
[20:28] <diplo> RROD
[20:29] <diplo> I've been told by a few people it's worth trying to remove some parts to see if it'll work after some new paste etc
[20:29] <diplo> Got a new one already, so thought why not try :)
[20:30] <daftykins> ah we might've spoken of it before
[20:31] <daftykins> but damn, nah just buying the cheap couple-of-pound new heatsink bolts for the graphics chip and redoing it with those nice and tight can work
[20:31] <diplo> maybe. although I've not talked about fixing it, one of the lads in game recommended me to when I bought a replacemnet
[20:34] <diplo> you everdone one daftykins ?
[20:35] <daftykins> yep a couple
[20:35] <daftykins> a mate has done tens of them with the same method too
[20:36] <diplo> Good success rate ?
[20:36] <daftykins> he reckons none of his have ever gone bad again, mine lived for an extra year or so
[20:36] <penguin42> is this mainly the problem of the main chip desoldering itself from heat?
[20:37] <diplo> Cool, recommendation on where you bought them ?
[20:37] <diplo> I believe so penguin42, the paste either goes off/hasn't been seated very well
[20:38] <daftykins> it's not paste related at all
[20:38] <diplo> oh right
[20:40] <diddledan> evening
[20:41] <daftykins> hmm something new http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xbox-360-Hybrid-eXtreme-Uniclamp-ROD-XClamp-Repair-Kit-/120864512204
[20:41] <daftykins> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XBOX-360-REPAIR-KIT-COMPLETE-free-p-p-RROD-e73-e74-BUY-2-GET-1-FREE-/261480995492
[20:41] <diddledan> ROD Xclamp?
[20:41] <daftykins> or the old classic
[20:42] <daftykins> excellent eyes, diddledan :D
[20:42] <diddledan> you're gonna make me read it
[20:42] <daftykins> replacement fixings for the xbox360 heatsink mounts
[20:43] <diddledan> o_O
[20:44] <daftykins> believe it or not, fixing the GPU sink down tighter after making it heat itself up with none on or something helps a lot work again
[20:46] <diddledan> I got one of these for xmas :-) http://spyder.datacolor.com/portfolio-view/spyder5express/
[20:47] <diplo> What do you normally use daftykins ?
[20:47] <diplo> Seem quite different kit
[20:47] <daftykins> diplo: it's probably been 8 years since i did one so been a long time now, literally just the replacement bolts - depends on your extended error code though
[20:49] <diplo> oh right :) will take a good read thanks
[20:49] <diplo> thanks for the input / help
[20:49] <daftykins> np!
[20:49] <daftykins> fixing stuff is ace
[20:50] <diplo> That's what I want to get back into, trying to get myself busier and have a project
[20:50] <diplo> I have 4 phones, a kindle with a broken screen to fix and this home auto stuff
[20:52] <daftykins> :D
[20:52] <daftykins> i've been asked to do an iPhone 6s screen, should be fun
[20:55]  * penguin42 hasn't tried doing any phone stuff
[20:59] <daftykins> it's only basic item swaps really that i've done, nothing special other than having the patience to do it
[21:00] <penguin42> daftykins: A bunch of us bought a box of broken Apple Newton's about 20 years ago and made working ones and sold them on
[21:00] <daftykins> this iPhone one will require the existing home button, front facing camera and earpiece be swapped over though
[21:00] <penguin42> daftykins: Just doing things like swapping working boards and working displays
[21:00] <daftykins> :D nice, mmm
[21:01] <penguin42> oh and finding the bug that meant that they would play dead unless you removed the lithium for a few minutes and then they'd suddenly spring back to life
[21:03] <daftykins> i do wonder if it'd be worth buying broken devices on ebay and fixing them up for resale
[21:03] <daftykins> but it's quite the risk
[21:04] <penguin42> in this case it was a local dealer who was selling a batch of 2nd hand ones and we asked how many broken ones they had
[22:58] <penguin42> g+ has just offered me someone's 'Walk the north of England' collection; perhaps that should be swim
[23:04] <daftykins> :S
[23:48] <zmoylan-pi> the clue is in your nick... :-)
[23:50] <daftykins> 42!
[23:52] <penguin42> well if you can swim the length of Northern England and still know where your towel is


[00:56] <LjL> reisio seems to be giving a lot of silly unwarranted opinions in #ubuntu
[01:00] <IdleOne> remind of the offtopic channel. that should make him settle down for a bit
 bazhang: bazhang which is the very same problem. how many missing dependencies do i have to install to install aptoncd? I'm on 64kbit and I have no network with the target pc because samba is broken by default
[07:53] <bazhang> samba is broken by default?
[07:53] <bazhang> thats a really serious bug!
[07:57] <Myrtti> I have no network with the target pc because samba is broken?
[07:57] <Myrtti> since when...
[07:57] <Myrtti> no nevermind
[08:19] <bazhang> jhc
[08:20] <bazhang> no idea what he's doing, lots of editorial offtopic, plus some /me
[08:20] <bazhang> YEAH I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THAT
[08:25] <bazhang> "spend less time wasting time"  <---- nicely put!
[08:26] <IdleOne> 3 halfs!
[08:26] <bazhang> hehe
[08:36] <bazhang> oh yeah this guy's a troll, and a known one, too; just switched up nicks is all
[08:36] <ikonia> which one ?
[08:36] <bazhang> the name eludes me at the moment
[08:36] <bazhang> huutnu-huse
[08:36] <ikonia> is he ?
[08:36] <ikonia> just seems like someone without a clue
[08:37] <bazhang> he proposes some completely nonsense scenario, gets a bunch of suggestions, ignores them all , then starts insulting the supporters
[08:38] <ikonia> there was a guy who used to do that, as you say, this guy doesn't come across as that yet to me
[08:39] <bazhang> yeah it's him. and even the apology is a veiled insult
[08:39] <ikonia> he's said he'll shut up now, so that's fine by me
[08:46] <ikonia> why does it think haunt_house is flooding ?
[08:57] <IdleOne> fb2 and 3 are lagged bad
[12:10] <jrib> two instances of some weird repeating bot with the ident johnny was in #ubuntu
[12:10] <jrib> i kicked but did not ban: <IP_ADDRESS> bba135262.alshamil.net.ae
[12:13] <DJones> And SuperbXA comes out as a troll
[12:17] <k1l> superbxa was same like the bots
[12:27] <k1l> emery again hopping on the train of another troll. i think there is some trollpit somewhere where they plan those situations
[12:30] <jpds_> And they probably tail our irclogs.
[12:32] <k1l> well, there is no information in here that is not obvious from the logs in #u :)
[12:33] <bazhang> same exact IP, then emery switched to cloak to evade
[12:33] <bazhang> wonder how long that cloak will last
[16:01] <Pici> Does anyone know anything about apt-get install lamp-server^ being preferred over using tasksel?
[16:04] <ikonia> no, someone else said this in #ubuntu a day or two ago
[16:04] <Pici> kalekip1 keeps going on about it.
[16:04] <ikonia> I think that's kalekip1 prefereed way
[16:04] <ikonia> the fact that's suggesting myphpadmin too suggests he's not really thought it through
[16:04] <ikonia> eg: security compromise 101
[16:05] <genii> I think tasksel should be the preferred
[16:06] <ikonia> I don't see it making a difference to be honest
[16:06] <Pici> I just feels like FUD to me.
[16:06] <ikonia> it is, but someone else also said it a few days ago
[16:07] <genii> I saw it being suggested a couple weeks ago for the first time, forget by who though
[16:58] <genii> Hehe, "broken ugly"
[16:59] <bazhang> brugly
[17:00] <genii> bazhang: I shall use this term from now onwards!
[17:00] <bazhang> hehe
[18:37] <Pici> What is it with quassel and making multiple connections?
[19:12] <Pici> knome: fyi, asd__123123123 is already getting help in #ubuntu (and fluxgui isn't in our repositories aparrently)
[19:13] <knome> Pici, okay. thanks for the heads up
[19:13] <Pici> np
[19:16] <knome> still getting support at #u?
[19:16] <knome> (just checking if he's just not listening or what)
[19:16] <ikonia> once again quest cross posting
[19:18] <bazhang> well #debian
[19:18] <bazhang> out of our jurisdiction though
[19:20] <ikonia> sure, but the whole "I'll ask everywhere" attitude is still there
[19:20] <bazhang> I think it's more he's using debian and cant wait
[19:21] <ikonia> I think it's the opposite as he's "not at home" and doesn't know what debian version he's using
[19:21] <bazhang> "#ubuntu has more people!" (centOS user)
[19:22] <bazhang> I've always held we should have a !carkeys factoid; when they are lost, look under the street lamp as more light there
[19:26] <knome> asd__123123123 is being helped on #x, so if there's also help in #u...
[19:26] <knome> looks like someone who has a really short attention span
[23:36] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu dhyana constantly asking "is anyone from india" for no reason over the course of a week or two, had the loco team and the rules of #ubuntu explained to him multiple times


[00:03] <ckontros> Hi Luke. How ya been?
[01:03] <ScottL> TheMuso, you and cory talk about the "fail to install" in the daily image?
[01:03] <TheMuso> ScottL: No we haven't.
[01:04] <ScottL> foomatic-db-compressed-ppds conflicting
[01:04] <ScottL> with foomatic-db
[01:05] <TheMuso> ScottL: Oh I see, just read the thread.
[01:05] <ScottL> i haven't looked at anything other than the email
[01:05] <TheMuso> Looks like we need to merge some seed changes from Ubuntu proper. I will take care of it a bit later today when I get a minute.
[01:06] <ScottL> TheMuso, thank you, when you do can please tell me what happened and what needed to be done to fix it, i would really like to learn from this
[01:06] <TheMuso> ScottL: Sure.
[01:08] <ScottL> TheMuso, the bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/642405
[01:09] <TheMuso> ScottL: I am pretty sure what the problem is.
[01:11] <ScottL> TheMuso, oh, i posted the link so you could update the bug, would you prefer that i update the bug when you update the seeds?
[01:11] <ScottL> TheMuso, i would be happy to :)
[01:11] <TheMuso> ScottL: Nah its fine I can do it when I update the seeds.
[04:51] <ScottL> large udpate to workflows web page if anyone is interested: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
[05:15] <persia> ScottL, From a documentation-writing perspective, that looks really good.  From a bundling-stuff-for-tasks perspective, I think some things are a little too specific.
[05:16] <persia> Try a server install sometime, and take a look at the task selection page: we want to avoid overwhelming new users on install.
[05:17] <ScottL> persia, i'm hoping to collate the applications into a neat matrix during this week which also compares against the current applications from the meta-packages
[05:17] <persia> Ah, OK.  Now it all makes sense.  I retract my criticism :)
[05:17] <ScottL> well, it might be two matrices, because getting all that into one and being coherent might not tenable
[05:17] <ScottL> :)
[05:18] <persia> Indeed :)
[13:18] <scott-work> it appears that colin watson may have already fixed the foomatic bug in the seeds
[14:31] <astraljava> scott-work: You mean http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.maverick/revision/1243 ?
[14:32] <astraljava> scott-work: That's way old, 2 weeks already, so shouldn't it have been fixed in images rolled three days ago?
[15:32] <scott-work> astraljava: good point!
[15:32] <scott-work> aye, i just saw the change but didn't recognize that it was two weeks old, this may have been the cause of the bug :P
[15:33] <scott-work> i had spoken with the.muso last night about it and he said he was looking into it so hopefully it will still be address soon
[16:16] <astraljava> scott-work: Yeah I figured the same. Hopefully Luke knows what's going on.
[23:05] <ckontros> ScottL: Hit me up when you get home.