[07:13] <Epidemik> dabar: thanks
[07:13] <Epidemik> ill be back ;)
[07:14] <ineedehelp> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33857/
[07:14] <dabaR> Epidemik: actually, it says nothing about it. You should get asked for the password when you try connecting, connection refused usually means no ssh server on host, or ssh running without interactive authentication, such as with a key or something.
[07:14] <jwise> /proc/acpi/event anyone tell me the content about this file,thanks.
[07:15] <Epidemik> dabaR: im a noob, what does that mean? I cant connect to it because its not enabled?
[07:15] <jwise> It always show:"acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy
[07:15] <jwise> "
[07:15] <dabaR> something like that, yes. COntact the person whose computer you are connecting to, and ask how to connect exactly.
[07:16] <dabaR> jwise: did you try passing noacpi as the boot option? I heard of that somewhere, google for that.
[07:17] <dabaR> ineedehelp: post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin, and run sudo aptitude -f install;sudo aptitude install -f; sudo apt-get install -f and post output of that as well to pastebin.
[07:17] <jwise> I've googled so many times, it doesn't solve problem.It seems I've stopped the acpi service once,than it got the problem after I restart it.
[07:17] <Epidemik> dabaR: is there a progam (other than terminal) that can do this?
[07:18] <dabaR> ssh? no, ssh is a terminal program. You can connect to transfer files over the ssh protocol with nautilus, with the places menu, the connect to server applet
[07:18] <sn9> Epidemik: why would you need a special program when any ol' terminal will do?
[07:18] <bokey> hi all. =)
[07:19] <allen> anyone here can help me?
[07:19] <sn9> Epidemik: is the server yours too?
[07:19] <allen2003> O_o;
[07:19] <allen2003> okey i got problem on ubuntu themes i tried installing a theme but it sez invalid filename any idea?
[07:19] <bokey> i was looking for ipod directory builder for ubuntu
[07:19] <bobbie__4> Linux rules
[07:19] <allen2003> hoh?
[07:20] <allen2003> anyone?
[07:20] <dabaR> !themes
[07:20] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:20] <nachaLibre> where to call the ./config for php  ???
[07:21] <nachaLibre> any idea ??
[07:21] <dabaR> nachaLibre: rephrase your question.
[07:21] <allen2003> how to type /themes
[07:21] <allen2003> O_o
[07:21] <allen2003> oh nvm
[07:22] <allen2003> ok O_o dabaR
[07:22] <dabaR> allen2003: visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:22] <allen2003> hmm
[07:22] <dabaR> bokey: does gtkpod do that?
[07:22] <nachaLibre> ned to change this config --with-libxml-dir=/usr'
[07:23] <nachaLibre> the path is wrong
[07:23] <allen2003> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
[07:23] <allen2003> wooops
[07:23] <bokey> dabaR, =) gtkpod.. no. it's a single python file
[07:23] <bokey> dabaR, forgot it's name.
[07:23] <DARKGuy> Hm, I wonder, is there a program which can limit my computer's bandwidth so I don't take it all and my brother can use some Kbs too? (like NetLimiter for Windoze)
[07:23] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR, what was it you needed to see again?
[07:24] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: show me what ls -l ~/.dmrc tells you.
[07:25] <allen2003> the file format is invalid dabaR >_>
[07:25] <allen2003> i always get that when i install it
[07:25] <Epidemik> sn9 the server is a game server
[07:25] <Heiroglyphics> debaR:i do cvn ls -l ~/.dmrc ?
[07:25] <dabaR> bokey: search for ipod directory python on google, or click http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=ipod+directory+python&btnG=Google+Search&meta= is best I can think of
[07:26] <nayru> Hello, im having trouble with the Terminal (alt+ctrl+F1) when i press it my screen displays random junk colors weird patterns and such...
[07:26] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: ls -l ~/.dmrc
[07:26] <Epidemik> sn9 so its my server but its not sitting infront of me. its off in New York somewhere. And i need a program cause good ol terminal wont connect
[07:26] <sn9> Epidemik: a game server that uses ssh? that really doesn't sound right
[07:26] <Epidemik> ummm
[07:26] <Epidemik> lol i hate being a noob
[07:26] <Epidemik> sn9 it claims to use SSH to allow me (the client) to start and stop the server
[07:26] <allen2003> !download
[07:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[07:26] <allen2003> !download_manager
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about download_manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <sn9> Epidemik:  i think that's not what they mean
[07:27] <Tido> anyone know a good way to manage wireless connections in edgy?
[07:27] <ineedehelp> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33860/
[07:27] <nayru> im having trouble with the Terminal (alt+ctrl+F1) when i press it my screen displays random junk colors weird patterns and such...
[07:27] <Jordan_U> !network-manager | Tido
[07:27] <ubotu> Tido: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[07:28] <Epidemik> sn9 what do they mean?
[07:28] <Epidemik> sn9 i pm'ed you the knowledge base article
[07:28] <DARKGuy> nayru, does it do that too when you boot in recovery mode?
[07:29] <dabaR> ineedehelp: remove the # from the second line in the sources.list file, then run sudo aptitude update, then run sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, tell me whether you get the same error.
[07:29] <Firefishe> I just updated my xorg.conf file.  Is there a way to apply the settings to the xserver in real time without having to restart it?
[07:30] <dabaR> ineedehelp: line 5 in that post on pastebin...
[07:30] <DARKGuy> I don't think so Firefishe :(
[07:30] <dabaR> Firefishe: no
[07:30] <Firefishe> oh goody ;) hee
[07:30] <Jordan_U> Firefishe: But you don't need to reboot either, just restart X.
[07:31] <dabaR> keep your text buffers in the console when troubleshooting X, then.
[07:31] <ineedehelp> but sources.list is read only
[07:31] <Firefishe> Jordan_U: uh huh...*sigh*  Well, if I write *that* code ;)
[07:31] <dabaR> ineedehelp: are you using gedit to edit it?
[07:31] <Jordan_U> !sudo | ineedehelp
[07:31] <ubotu> ineedehelp: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:32] <ineedehelp> I hate being a n00b
[07:32] <ineedehelp> sry
[07:32] <Jordan_U> ineedehelp: It is read only because your user does not have write privaleges.
[07:32] <ineedehelp> Ok, I get it now....thanks. ^_^
[07:32] <dabaR> Jordan_U: I heard people recommending gksudo with graphical apps instead of just sudo.
[07:33] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR: This is what it says after but its not the dmrc i don't think  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33862/
[07:33] <Jordan_U> dabaR: Yes, I have head that it is bad to run GUI apps with sudo , don't know why though.
[07:33] <Jordan_U> *heard
[07:34] <mordof> dabaR, Jordan_U, maybe it doesn't clean up some of the graphical library includes needed or something... but gksudo would
[07:34] <morten_> is the narnia movie any close to as good as the old miniseries from the 80s?
[07:34] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: is that output of ls -l ~/.dmrc?
[07:34] <bokey> dabaR, thanks heaps. man.. it's the rebuild_db.py =)
[07:34] <morten_> serios question
[07:34] <morten_> help me out here, nerds!
[07:34] <mordof> morten_, i never saw that but i've read all the books and i thought the movie was pretty good
[07:34] <DARKGuy> morten_, I have no idea, but I loved the Narnia movie :P
[07:34] <dabaR> bokey: did you find it on google?
[07:35] <bokey> dabaR, yeah it's the http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=ipod+directory+python&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[07:35] <tengo> question
[07:35] <bokey> =)
[07:35] <dabaR> bokey: welcome
[07:35] <bokey> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=136446&package_id=149925
[07:35] <mordof> morten_, it jumpled a few unimportant things to make the movie work... but aside from that most of it followed everything as it should
[07:35] <tengo> life or death question
[07:35] <aidanr> the tv series was rubbish, the books rocked, the movie is somewhere in between
[07:35] <morten_> maybe i should give it a go. i've heard the miniseries is kinda looked down on since it was low budget, but i've seen that every easter since i can remember, so the new movie will have to work hard at it
[07:35] <morten_> i'll give it a go
[07:35] <kid> jo
[07:35] <tengo> when i try to install linux restricted modules, it says nvidia kernel common is not installable\
[07:35] <dabaR> aidanr: hehe, are you brittish?
[07:35] <aidanr> irish
[07:36] <dabaR> aidanr: I knew you were not american cause you said rubbish
[07:36] <morten_> dabaR: i'm norwegian, actually. but the state channel shows the lion, witch and the wardrobe in the mornings during easter
[07:36] <Heiroglyphics> dabar: no but it comes right after the "Users $HOMe/.dmrc file is being ignored..."
[07:36] <dabaR> well, I guess your name is also cool too.
[07:36] <aidanr> yeah ok, the whole rubbish/trash thingimabob
[07:36] <morten_> makes me feel like a little kid again
[07:36] <sn9> Jordan_U: because it spews garbage to the terminal, which leads one to close the terminal, thereby also closing the app
[07:37] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: are you in Ubuntu now?
[07:37] <tengo> anyone? when i try to install linux restricted modules, it says nvidia kernel common is not installable....
[07:37] <morten_> install nvidia-kernel-common first
[07:37] <ineedehelp> dabaR and Jordan_U: Thank you very much. It is installing now. ^_^
[07:37] <morten_> or force the install
[07:37] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR: no i can only get on the rescue terminal
[07:37] <dabaR> ineedehelp: welcome.
[07:37] <Jordan_U> sn9: Is that really it, lol I thought is was a technical problem not a pebkac preventer :)
[07:37] <tengo> morten_ i cant access the internet, and its not on the cd
[07:38] <morten_> tengo: it probably has multiple layers of dependencies, which causes that
[07:38] <morten_> tengo: i guess you're fucked, then
[07:38] <DARKGuy> Wait, wtf?
[07:38] <tengo> morten_ thanks
[07:38] <morten_> np
[07:38] <DARKGuy> he can't access internet and he's here? oO
[07:38] <morten_> hmm
[07:38] <sn9> Jordan_U: there is also the tendency of GUIs to do very gag-inducing things when they get root access in general
[07:38] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: well, I am pretty sure we could fix it, but I need more info about what you exactly did, and what gives you that error.
[07:38] <tengo> darkguy,  i'm on a windows laptop
[07:38] <morten_> good catch, DARKGuy
[07:38] <morten_> why can't your linux box access the nets?
[07:38] <DARKGuy> tengo, ah, that makes sense now o.o;
[07:39] <DARKGuy> lol, thanks morten_ =P
[07:39] <tengo> morten_ i tried to install nvidia, but it disable my internet somehow
[07:39] <morten_> ...
[07:39] <arun_> I want to mount two ntfs drives using /dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs umask=0222 0 0
[07:39] <arun_> can I append two lines one after another?
[07:39] <sn9> !ntfs-3g | arun_
[07:39] <ubotu> arun_: ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[07:40] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR: Begining prompt when I log in
[07:40] <dabaR> arun_: first of all, the device node must be different for each if you intend to mount 2 drives. Second, you can not mount two devices on same mount point, other than that, it looks great.
[07:40] <tengo> so this is my last post BEFORE I REINSTALL UBUNTU: when i try to install linux restricted modules, it says nvidia kernel common is not installable...and i don't have access to the internet through hat ocmputer
[07:41] <atrus> i have a DVD of a family vacation I need to duplicate. I have a dvd-rom and a dvd-rw and some blanks. what's the easy way to do this?
[07:41] <sn9> atrus: yes
[07:41] <sn9> atrus: which cpu do you have?
[07:41] <ineedehelp> so if I install ntfs-3g, I can access my windows partitions? or did I read that KDE can do that for me?
[07:41] <dabaR> tengo: it could be many things, even a simple enabled repositories issue, do you remember more of the error? can you use irssi and come back here while in Ubuntu?
[07:41] <sn9> atrus: oops, not you
[07:41] <sn9> tengo: yes, which cpu do you have?
[07:42] <dabaR> ineedehelp: ntfs-3g is for writing to the iwndows partition.
[07:42] <bokey> ragamuffin, mount -ro -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[07:42] <tengo> sn9 which computer model or what
[07:42] <dabaR> !mountwindows
[07:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:42] <tengo> ebar, irssi?
[07:42] <dabaR> ragamuffin: I hope you saw that post from me...
[07:42] <sn9> tengo: pentium, celeron, athlon, duron, sempron, turion...
[07:42] <ineedehelp> look at the bright side....the more you teach me, the more I can teach others ^_^
[07:43] <dabaR> tengo: ya, a text only irc client, that way you could speak with us from ubuntu, and we could look into the issue, but you said internet does not even work in your ubuntu installation, so not sure.
[07:43] <tengo> tengo athlon
[07:43] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR: How do I view -l ~/.dmrc ?
[07:43] <tengo> debar yeah internet doesn't work period without madwifi
[07:43] <tengo> debar which is in the restricted driver that requires nvidia
[07:43] <sn9> tengo: athlon? ok. did you install the 32-bit ubuntu or the 64-bit?
[07:44] <tengo> sn9 32
[07:44] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: what is your ubuntu user name for the normal user?
[07:45] <DrakeMastil> are there any free game emulators? i dont have a way to pay for cedega atm
[07:45] <sn9> tengo: ok. can you temporarily connect that machine to the 'net by ethernet?
[07:45] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR: yg
[07:45] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: just yg?
[07:45] <tengo> sn9 nope
[07:45] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR: yeah
[07:45] <snoop> how can I install automatix?
[07:45] <ineedehelp> DrakeMastil: For what console?
[07:45] <snoop> or where can I donwload it
[07:45] <sn9> tengo: and you can't get madwifi to work?
[07:46] <DrakeMastil> ineedhelp: Windows based games
[07:46] <tengo> sn9 well i have it on the computer
[07:46] <tengo> sn9 but when i type in make, it says missing heading for KERNELPATH
[07:46] <sn9> tengo: no, no. madwifi is preinstalled on ubuntu
[07:47] <ragamuffin> dabaR: how can i change the device node for mounting a second partition?
[07:47] <snoop> where can I download automatix?
[07:47] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: try this. boot into the recovery mode, and run chown -R yg:yg /home/yg;chmod 600 /home/yg/.dmrc, then reboot, and try logging in as yg, then come back here and tell me how it worked.
[07:47] <dabaR> snoop: ask google, really.
[07:47] <sn9> !automatix | snoop
[07:47] <ubotu> snoop: automatix is is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Since it is often hard to track and solve problems caused by Automatix, you might find it easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:47] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR: ok
[07:47] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: see ya
[07:48] <tengo> sn9 how do i see if its installed
[07:48] <dabaR> ragamuffin: well, run sudo fdisk -l and post output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:48] <m0zone> i searched before comein in here lol  is there a way to set open term right click on folder to save on typeing :P
[07:48] <sn9> tengo: if you installed ubuntu off the cd, it's installed
[07:48] <DrakeMastil> ineedhelp: Windows based games
[07:48] <ragamuffin> dabaR: I will post the result on pastebin
[07:49] <DrakeMastil> Cedega is all i know... are there others? preferably free
[07:49] <tengo> sn9 ok...if you say so
[07:49] <dabaR> m0zone: I do not understand your sentence at all.
[07:49] <DARKGuy> DrakeMastil, WINE is one, but it needs some tweaking for a few games
[07:49] <tengo> sn9, this whole problem started when i tried to install an nvidia driver, so when i restarted it my internet didn't work
[07:49] <DARKGuy> DrakeMastil, there are also Loki installers for Windows games that you already have
[07:49] <sn9> tengo: that actually makes sense
[07:49] <m0zone> okies insted of typeing cd /home/m0zone/gamefolder/  in term i just open natiuls  and right click on game folder open in term  or open terminal here
[07:50] <tengo> sn9 how come?
[07:50] <m0zone> i got use to it in kde
[07:50] <DrakeMastil> DARKGuy: Tweaking as in? I'm an power-user, in terms, on windows but still newer to linux
[07:50] <dabaR> morten_: Oh, I do not know of that.
[07:50] <sn9> tengo: both the nvidia kernel modules and madwifi are part of linux-restricted-modules
[07:51] <DARKGuy> DrakeMastil, same here ;) some games (like World of Warcraft, for example) need specifical patches needed to be inserted in a WINE source package and recompile WINE entirely, so WoW works
[07:51] <tengo> sn9 fuck, then why'd someone tell me to install the nvidia ones?
[07:51] <DARKGuy> DrakeMastil, other games may just work without any problems (Like Diablo II) and others might need some WINE config tweaking, rather than in Cedega just installing and running :P
[07:51] <DrakeMastil> DARKGuy: How about Lineage 2?
[07:51] <dabaR> m0zone: oooh, ooh, I know, install nautilus-open-terminal
[07:52] <m0zone> tnxs gonna try that
[07:52] <dabaR> m0zone: it works, I just tried.
[07:52] <tengo> sn9, so is there a way to revert?
[07:52] <DARKGuy> DrakeMastil, Hm, I've only played it in Windows, but I'm not really sure it'll work... not the game, but the anti hacking system itself (which is similar to the ones that GunBound, Silkroad and Mu use) might not let you run it... who knows, you could give it a go
[07:52] <renato> hello everyone
[07:52] <ragamuffin> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33865/
[07:53] <sn9> tengo: the nvidia stuff comes in two parts on ubuntu: kernel and X. the kernel stuff is preinstalled, but the X stuff is in the apt pkg "nvidia-glx" -- if you installed from nvidia.com, you're unlikely to recover without some other internet access
[07:53] <DARKGuy> DrakeMastil, Lineage 2 uses a modified Unreal Engine so for that I'm sure it works, but the antihacking system might be a problem since it uses Windows specific API for getting PC info, opened processes and such ^^;
[07:53] <dabaR> ragamuffin: do you know which of those partitions you are trying to mount? If not, tell me their drive letters from windows.
[07:54] <ragamuffin> dabaR: ok
[07:54] <tengo> sn9 i installed the packages with synaptic
[07:54] <renato> I am running kubuntu and want to run ubuntu instead. Is there a chance I can do this without reinstalling?
[07:54] <aidanr> someone pm me in 5 seconds please, testing something
[07:54] <DrakeMastil> DARKGuy: sounds good thus far... just need to learn the commands for BASH now xD
[07:54] <sn9> tengo: just the one called "nvidia-glx" right?
[07:54] <dabaR> renato: install ubuntu-desktop, and use sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop
[07:54] <renato> can I keep both?
[07:55] <dabaR> renato: yes
[07:55] <tengo> sn9 yeah
[07:55] <renato> oh, thank you dabaR
[07:55] <dabaR> DrakeMastil: there is a tutorial. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:55] <dabaR> renato: welcome
[07:55] <DARKGuy> DrakeMastil, those won't be a problem ^_^ try to handle yourself in the Linux environment and familiarize yourself with it, you're going to have to use the terminal a lot so a tutorial like dabaR just linked you might help :)
[07:55] <DrakeMastil> dabaR: thanks reading it right now
[07:56] <aidanr> someone, anyone, count 5 seconds, then pm me and say boo or something, please, trying to test something
[07:56] <disco_stu> Hi everybody
[07:56] <tengo> sn9 theres nothing to revert back to a previous time
[07:56] <sn9> tengo: ok, that by itself shouldn't have caused your problem then. however, you mentioned nvidia-kernel-common, which has to do with the kernel stuff
[07:56] <tengo> sn9 ?
[07:56] <m0zone> dabar any type of setup i need to do :P apt-got it  now digin to find it lol
[07:56] <DrakeMastil> DARKGuy: Any idea how to get WINE downloaded the links are not very let's say user friendly
[07:56] <tengo> sn9 hold on i think i got that too, and nvidia tools
[07:56] <ragamuffin> dabaR: when I click browsefor  partition 7 and 8 under Admin>Disk I get to the same drive, which I thind is /hda8
[07:57] <dabaR> m0zone: well, killall nautilus in a terminal will restart nautilus, and that will make it work
[07:57] <aidanr> dabaR, help me out? read up
[07:57] <ragamuffin> dabaR: I want hda7 mounted
[07:57] <disco_stu> I have a question about upgrading - I enter the "gksu" update and it says my root password is incorrect.  I went and chaged the root password and it still doesn't work
[07:57] <cj> anyone here familiar with aiglx?
[07:57] <cj> is it an X module?
[07:57] <DrakeMastil> ooo wait im not using i386... i'm on the 64bit platform... i need to compile the source
[07:57] <sn9> tengo: you should have installed only "nvidia-glx" (and if you cared, "linux-k7")
[07:58] <aidanr> thanks dabaR that got it
[07:58] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR: it says invalid group, if you can, can you show me the list of group types like admin,root, etc
[07:58] <dabaR> disco_stu: gksu uses your password, not the root one
[07:58] <disco_stu> it doesn't work with that either
[07:58] <tengo> sn9, so is there a way to reverse the effects
[07:59] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: usually there will be a group with the same name as the user. weird. did you delete the user completely?
[07:59] <dabaR> disco_stu: what about sudo ls, does that accept your password?
[07:59] <DARKGuy> DrakeMastil, Hm, in the Wine page there's a HowTo for downloading it, you just have to add the repository to your sources.list and do apt-get update, then apt-get install wine :P
[07:59] <dabaR> !aiglx
[07:59] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[07:59] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR: i didn't delete any users except the default one but I already made a user by then
[07:59] <DARKGuy> DrakeMastil, However if you're on 64-bit as you mentioned... yeah, gotta recompile from source, and I'm afraid I've never done that :(
[08:00] <sn9> tengo: since you've lost track of what exactly the effects even were, figuring out how to reverse them will take quite some doing. not impossible, though
[08:00] <tengo> so...recommend reinstalling?
[08:00] <DARKGuy> DrakeMastil, but the source can be obtained from the same repository if I recall correctly :P
[08:00] <tengo> sn9?
[08:00] <z9999> We are new to Linux and have got most of the system working properly, and as it was factory installed, once received and connected to the internet we continue to get notice that there are updates, very many, 172 to be exact, available. We are uncertain of the importance of applying any or all of them and are worried of the possibility that one or more may create more problems to be solved,...
[08:00] <z9999> Could someone with extensive knowledge of Ubuntu please advise me of how I should handle updates to installed SW.
[08:00] <z9999> ...while at the same time unsure if any of them may eliminate existing problems. Mostly, we wish to avoid any possibility of doing anything that will necessitate the re-installation of the system as a whole.
[08:00] <sn9> tengo: probably, yeah
[08:00] <dabaR> ragamuffin: well, then do this: sudo mkdir /media/hda7 /media/hda8, then gksudo gedit /etc/fstab and tell me when you open the file for editing.
[08:01] <cj> thanks, dabaR
[08:01] <sn9> z9999: which version of ubuntu do you have?
[08:01] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: so there is a yg user now you think?
[08:01] <disco_stu> sudo recognizes my password
[08:02] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR: yeah i shows up on the login and i click on it and then type in password
[08:02] <z9999> sn9: It's Dapper, or 6.06 LTS if that is a better definition.
[08:02] <tengo> sn9 brb
[08:02] <dabaR> disco_stu: then try gksudo instead of gksu
[08:02] <disco_stu> ok
[08:02] <ragamuffin> dabaR: yes, done, openned etc/fstab in geditor
[08:02] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: then run the same command I gave you for the recovery mode, just change the chown yg:yg... to chown yg, so remove the :yg
[08:03] <Heiroglyphics> k
[08:03] <Heiroglyphics> brb
[08:03] <sn9> z9999: if you originally installed dapper and never applied any updates, 172 sounds about right
[08:03] <disco_stu> ok - it pulls up my update screen
[08:04] <dabaR> ragamuffin: the line will be /dev/hda7 /media/hda7 ntfs umask=0222 0 0 fix the spacing, add same one but with 8s for the other partition if you want that one mounted too. save, close, and run sudo mount -a, they should appear in the places menu.
[08:04] <dabaR> disco_stu: OK, go on with what you were doing.
[08:04] <disco_stu> Sorry - Im a total noob - im running Breezy - how do I select to update to 6.10
[08:04] <dabaR> !upgrade
[08:04] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:04] <aidanr> dabaR, could you do that for me one more time please, sorry to bother you
[08:04] <dabaR> disco_stu: make sure you upgrade to 6.06 first, you have to go one by one
[08:05] <sn9> z9999: you should have been applying them all this time, but now that there are this many, just to be safe, i would recommend an alternate method of applying them all at once just this time
[08:05] <redDEADresolve> does anyone here know how to use ddrescue??
[08:05] <aidanr> cheers
[08:05] <z9999> sn9: About all we have installed using the Pkg Mgr is some additional SW, and docs updates, as well as some ALSA files as directed by help at #alsa trying to get our mic to work.
[08:05] <z9999> Oh, and some wireless related pkgs as that also does not work.
[08:05] <Dayz> hellp
[08:05] <Dayz> hello
[08:06] <dabaR> z9999: you should keep your system up to date with updates, and usually they will not break anything on stable systems such as 6.06, so update now, ask for help if needed.
[08:06] <Marlun> If when trying to install Ubuntu it doesn't find my network card, how do I find drivers for linux? I've always just searched for windows drivers.
[08:06] <elephantum> hi, I don't know where to so I'll stick here: I've bought new laptop (Vaio sz220) and installed ubuntu edgy, almost everything works fine, except some moments. 1. some buttons on my keyboard refer to incorrect keystrokes for example right alt is ISO_Level3_Shift, I'd like to change it but I can not guess where is this information stored.
[08:06] <DARKGuy> I'm gonna ask again xD before going to program in Mono - is there a program which can limit my bandwidth so it doesn't take all the bandwidth and leave some left for my brother's PC? (like NetLimiter for Windows?)
[08:06] <dabaR> !wireless
[08:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:06] <Dayz> I need some help. My Ubuntu was fine until when I was shutting it down last night it froze up so I had to hold my power button to shut it down. Today when I try getting into Ubuntu everything loads up fine but then I get a black screen, I have no idea whats going on and why this is happening. I'm guessing when I shut down using the power something messed up. When I go into recovery mode same thing happens. Im using Ubuntu Dapper. Can
[08:07] <sn9> z9999: installing outside the pkg mgr is where things can go really wrong. if you never did that, then what i was about to tell you would really be the thing to do
[08:08] <redDEADresolve> does anyone here know how to use ddrescue?? i need to rescue a disk but dont know/cant figue it out
[08:08] <sn9> z9999: assuming you have a dedicated internet connection, select Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal, and type: sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade
[08:08] <z9999> sn9: I don't believe we have installed anything outside the pkg mgr
[08:08] <dabaR> Dayz: did you aptitude search bandwidth?
[08:09] <Dayz> no clue how or what that is
[08:09] <sn9> z9999: let that command run overnight
[08:09] <dabaR> Dayz: sorry, not for you.
[08:09] <axisys_> where can i get help w/ linksys 54G?
[08:09] <dabaR> DARKGuy: did you aptitude search bandwidth?
[08:09] <axisys_> i want to put linux on it
[08:09] <DARKGuy> dabaR, Uhmmmmm...... nope XD;
[08:10] <z9999> sn9: It will take a long time? We are on a satellite up/down link which sometimes goes down for a few minutes. Could that cause a problem?
[08:10] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR:Didn't say anything this time. and it didn't do anything
[08:10] <mordof> would it be possible to take the desktop and server iso's, and put them onto 1 dvd with a boot menu to run either one?
[08:10] <mordof> if so how difficult would it be
[08:10] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: and you tried logging in?
[08:11] <ragamuffin> dabaR: I think I have done it. Thanks foryour help.
[08:11] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR: yeah
[08:11] <dabaR> ragamuffin: good work.
[08:11] <elephantum> Dayz, you have two ways: easy one - reinstall, hard - try to find corrupted packages and reinstall them.
[08:11] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: and still same exact error?
[08:11] <sn9> z9999: if the connection goes down during the download, you may need to type the command several times in a row, until it no longer does anything
[08:11] <ragamuffin> dabaR: :)
[08:11] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR:yeah
[08:11] <imissu29> please hepl me
[08:11] <imissu29> I install xine cho ubuntu
[08:11] <imissu29> when I reboot
[08:12] <imissu29> I can login
[08:12] <Pand0ra> im having an odd issues with xvid codec (i assume) all other video formats seem to play fine but xvid is shakey vertically, even when paused. Not sure what would cause that, any hints?
[08:12] <imissu29> the exact distribution terms for each program are discribed in the individual file in urs/share/doc/*/copyright
[08:12] <imissu29> ubuntu come with ubsolutely no wanranty to the exent permitted by applicable law
[08:12] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: go into recovery mode, and run ls -ld /home/yg, and ls -l /home/yg/.dmrc, then come back and show me exact output, please.
[08:12] <Heiroglyphics> ok
[08:13] <ellioTb> i just pasted the wrong code from a how-to on the forum
[08:13] <ellioTb> and it did a "sudo rm /bin/sh"
[08:13] <ellioTb> there a way to undo this?
[08:13] <imissu29> ?
[08:14] <dabaR> ellioTb: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall bash
[08:14] <CoRnJuLiOx> when i plug my USB flash drive in, where does it get mounted to?
[08:14] <sn9> z9999: after this is all done, be sure to always click the orange square in the top panel of the screen whenever it appears
[08:14] <dabaR> CoRnJuLiOx: /media/usb or so
[08:14] <ellioTb> CoRnJuLiOx, thanx
[08:15] <dabaR> imissu29: you did not present us with an issue to solve. Are you saying it lets you log in to the console, but you would like to use the gnome desktop environment?
[08:16] <ellioTb> CoRnJuLiOx, still giving me bad interpreter errors, doh!
[08:16] <dabaR> ellioTb: where is it giving you those errors?
[08:16] <DrakeMastil> ok when trying to compile WINE i get an error
[08:16] <ellioTb> dabaR, terminal
[08:16] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, why compile it?  .99 is in repositories
[08:16] <dabaR> ellioTb: you just open a terminal and get the error?
[08:16] <DrakeMastil> 64Bit
[08:16] <ellioTb> reinstall ends up in dpkg-preconfigure giving an error
[08:17] <DrakeMastil> not i386
[08:17] <sn9> z9999: also, since you have not applied updates in all these months, no doubt the yellow lightbulb will appear in the top panel sometime during this update, providing messages, at least one of which will exhort you to reboot at your convenience
[08:17] <DrakeMastil> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[08:17] <DrakeMastil> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:17] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, oh gross...  what's the error you are getting?
[08:17] <ellioTb> dabaR, yes, accidentally removed /bin/sh cause i pasted the wrong thing
[08:17] <slicky> hi.. i just installed berly.. and it dosent update correct..  when im at irc.. i have to klick the titlebar to see what im writing
[08:17] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, try to do sudo make instead of just make
[08:17] <slicky> witch window explorer is the best to use?
[08:17] <dabaR> ellioTb: but you used the command I gave you?
[08:17] <ellioTb> dabaR, yessir
[08:17] <Deep> \w
[08:18] <DrakeMastil> You are running wineinstall as root, this is not advisable. Please rerun as a user.
[08:18] <DrakeMastil> Aborting.
[08:18] <FunnyLookinHat> slicky, best place to ask that would be #ubuntu-xgl
[08:18] <dabaR> ellioTb: what is the error dpkg-reconfigure gives?
[08:18] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, heh, ok...
[08:18] <ellioTb> E: Sub-process /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true returned an error code
[08:18] <bobbie__4> Linux rules
[08:18] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, that specific error could be due to a number of issues...  have you asked in #wine if anyone had similiar issues?
[08:18] <DrakeMastil> FLH: sorry new to linux terminal... if it was windows cmd or even dos i'd have this licked xD
[08:18] <ellioTb> E: Failure running script /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true
[08:18] <CoRnJuLiOx> do i need to unmount a USB drive or can i just pull it out
[08:19] <DrakeMastil> FLH: nope but i can now
[08:19] <slicky> FunnyLookinHat:  but they are sleeping lol
[08:19] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, it's all good  : )
[08:19] <FunnyLookinHat> slicky, sorry to hear that...  but most in here won't be able to help with beryl issues.
[08:19] <DrakeMastil> FLH: only 2 people there xD
[08:19] <ellioTb> #beryl is a good place
[08:20] <dabaR> CoRnJuLiOx: unmount it is better
[08:20] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR:drwxr-xr-x 37 yg root 4096 Nov 16 00:14 /home/yg
[08:20] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, ouch...
[08:20] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: and the .dmrc file?
[08:20] <DrakeMastil> FLH: and im not logged in as root
[08:20] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, have you installed the package build-essential ?
[08:20] <DrakeMastil> FLH: i'm in a user account
[08:21] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR: it didn't say anything
[08:21] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, right, there is no root account in ubuntu (unless yo uenable it)
[08:21] <ellioTb> dabaR, i fixed it, just did a dpkg-reconfigure
[08:21] <DrakeMastil> FLH: not that I know of... SPM time then right?
[08:22] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: hey, I just got an idea. well, you had that idea hours ago, so I am not sure whether to be proud of my idea, or sad that I did not listen to you. boot recovery, and run sudo adduser heiro;sudo adduser heiro admin;sudo adduser heiro audio and then try logging into gnome as the heiro user.
[08:22] <NightStalker_07> can anyone help with edgy wireless issues, the ubuntu wiki didn't help much
[08:22] <dabaR> ellioTb: good work, I already kinda gave up
[08:22] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, my guess is that it isn't able to compile because gcc and other compile tools aren't installed (they aren't by default)
[08:23] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR:exactly why I asked you in the first place lol
[08:23] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, so in console do this:     sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:23] <ellioTb> dabaR, lol, thanks though, you kinda gave me the idea
[08:23] <dabaR> FunnyLookinHat: is it really possible to compile a 64 bit version of wine, a win32 emulator?
[08:23] <DrakeMastil> FLH: ok its installing
[08:24] <sn9> dabaR: not really
[08:24] <DrakeMastil> FLH: done
[08:24] <dabaR> !nicktab > DrakeMastil
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> dabaR: sudo adduser heiro -G admin,users,audio -s /bin/bash <-- this is the command, the one you listed will error out after the first command, since you can't add a user that already exists :)
[08:25] <dabaR> well, no, but that sounds good too.
[08:25] <FunnyLookinHat> dabaR, yes, lol.  because you are compiling something to interface with a 64bit kernel
[08:25] <DrakeMastil> dabaR: thanks :P
[08:25] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, now try to do the wine compile again
[08:25] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR:thanks I'll be right back with the results
[08:25] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: good luck
[08:25] <DrakeMastil> FunnyLookinHat: same error
[08:25] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, it's not saying anything more than just that??
[08:26] <Vigo> This looks funny
[08:26] <DrakeMastil> FunnyLookinHat: WINE Installer v0.75
[08:26] <DrakeMastil> You are running wineinstall as root, this is not advisable. Please rerun as a user.
[08:26] <DrakeMastil> Aborting.
[08:26] <tengo> sn9, at the resolution 1024x768, what is a normal vert/horiz refresh at...because i just went through sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and all the windows are really laggy when you move them
[08:26] <DrakeMastil> FunnyLookinHat: that's all it said this attemp
[08:26] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[08:26] <KnowledgEngi> i have proble with midi
[08:26] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, are you on edgy or dapper?
[08:27] <DrakeMastil> FunnyLookinHat: edgy
[08:27] <KnowledgEngi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:27] <KnowledgEngi> i used this howto
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> tengo: refresh rates are based on the monitor, not the resolution.
[08:27] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, check this out.  : )      http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=291620&highlight=compile+wine+64+bit
[08:27] <KnowledgEngi> and the midi worked good
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> !fixres | tengo
[08:27] <ubotu> tengo: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:27] <KnowledgEngi> after the boot the midi do not work
[08:27] <KnowledgEngi> and the command timidity -iA -B2,8 -Os1l -s 44100
[08:27] <tengo> fyrestrtr, my resolution is fine, but teh refresh rate isn't
[08:28] <sn9> tengo: lagginess isn't a refresh rate issue, but normal would be 85 or 75 for picture tube, and 60 for flat panel (all vert)
[08:28] <KnowledgEngi> do not enable the midi
[08:28] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, I take it you are new to linux and compiling in the console?
[08:28] <slicky> weii i fixed it ;D
[08:28] <DrakeMastil> FunnyLookinHat: O.O lots of commands
[08:28] <KnowledgEngi> there is some script that configure ubuntu for midi ??
[08:28] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, because it sounds like you are trying to run an installer when you should really be doing a fresh code compile
[08:28] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, but if you follow the steps in that post, you should be golden
[08:28] <DrakeMastil> FunnyLookinHat: yep... i a PC tech... and my boss suggested i got into linux so he could pay me more
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> tengo: you need to make sure your refresh rates are listed correctly for your monitor type. If its laggy, and you are sure the refresh rates are correct, then you probably need accelerated drivers for your video card.
[08:28] <slicky> almost..
[08:29] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, I also HIGHLY suggest you ditch the 64-bit installation and just go with a regular 32-bit...   better driver support and more packages available...
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> DrakeMastil: your boss is giving you tips to increase your pay?
[08:29] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, you're just going to make life tough on you for no real reward if you use 64bit
[08:29] <KnowledgEngi> is possible the timidiy and  fluidsinth create a conflict ???
[08:29] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: did somebody now screw up the midi howto that i perfected?
[08:29] <DrakeMastil> fyrestrtr: we just took on a contract who uses ubuntu work stations and servers
[08:30] <tengo> all of my windows are really laggy in ubuntu, same with scrolling up and down pages
[08:30] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: because it's not supposed to tell you to manually use the -iA option
[08:30] <DrakeMastil> fyrestrtr: so he thought i was the guy for the job since i enjoy command line anything so he kinda gave me the nudge in the right direction
[08:30] <dabaR> tengo: do you have more than 128 of RAM?
[08:30] <eth0s> Can anyone help me with XGL?
[08:30] <tengo> dabar: yes, i have 512
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> eth0s: check #ubuntu-xgl
[08:30] <tengo> dabar, and my video card is fine, it goes slow whenever i change to 1024x768
[08:30] <eth0s> thx
[08:30] <dabaR> tengo: did you use top to see whether some process is hogging up memory or cpu?
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> tengo: what video card do you have?
[08:31] <DrakeMastil> FunnyLookinHat: welp i just installed and Stormx2 suggested since i have a 64bit cpu to go 64bit so i did xD
[08:31] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: and, yes, fluidsynth may create a conflict
[08:31] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, You can also just force it to use the 386 package on 64 system:   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185557
[08:31] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, cool, well good luck with it  :
[08:31] <FunnyLookinHat> : )
[08:31] <KnowledgEngi> ok now i remove fluidsinth
[08:31] <tengo> fyrestrtr nvidia geforce 4
[08:31] <DrakeMastil> FunnyLookinHat: I'm just gonna scrap this install and go 32bit lol
[08:32] <FunnyLookinHat> DrakeMastil, good call.  : )
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> tengo: what driver are you using? Type this in a terminal from X : glxinfo | grep direct
[08:32] <istuk> can someone direct me to a good web based admin for my server? (just a server in the house - nothing special)
[08:32] <DrakeMastil> FunnyLookinHat: thanks for the help
[08:32] <NightStalker_07> Can anyone help me with wireless for edgy? The wiki was no real help, and my wireless worked fine under dapper.
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> istuk: you can try webmin, but its not supported under ubuntu.
[08:32] <istuk> is there one that is supported
[08:32] <istuk> ?
[08:32] <amicke> Is there any way to restor ubuntu to old setting.. to turn back time?
[08:32] <tengo> fyrestrtr: x error of failed request:  badalloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> honestly, I never used one; so don't know.
[08:33] <istuk> Ok thanks :-)
[08:33] <tengo> fyrestrtr and a whole bunch of other stuff
[08:33] <FirstStrike> !edgy
[08:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[08:33] <FirstStrike> hmm
[08:33] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: if you installed with synaptic, you can remove with synaptic
[08:33] <KnowledgEngi> normally i use synaptic
[08:33] <dabaR> amicke: usually backing up config files will do the trick for some issues, but to downgrade from say edgy to dapper, no, not really.
[08:34] <infidel> what file binds special keys like on laptops?
[08:34] <tengo> fyrestrtr should i install the nvidia drivers?
[08:34] <KnowledgEngi> and when is needed i add repository in sinaptyc
[08:34] <FunnyLookinHat> NightStalker_07, I can't help you now but I can try to give you some assistance tommorow....  (it's late here and I hav eto go)....  Try coming in here during the day tommorow and a lot of support should be around for wireless issues
[08:34] <KnowledgEngi> now i has remover fluidsynth, qsynth, libfluidsynth, timiditi
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> tengo: yes.
[08:34] <KnowledgEngi> timidity
[08:34] <sn9> infidel: on ubuntu, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[08:34] <KnowledgEngi> removed
[08:34] <NightStalker_07> FunnyLookinHat: alright, thanks
[08:35] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: keep timidity
[08:35] <dabaR> infidel: see man xmodmap, maybe that is it
[08:35] <infidel> sn9, yeah but what file is it?
[08:35] <KnowledgEngi> sometime i have paranoia that removin some pakage, the removing do not remove the configuration files
[08:35] <barachie> hello, does anybody know something about the 'sit0' interface?  it showed up after entering in the 'iwconfig' command and im wondering what it is. thanks.
[08:35] <sn9> infidel: you're asking where it stores the prefs?
[08:35] <tengo> sn9 which nvidia packages did you say i should install?
[08:36] <KnowledgEngi> i must reinstall timidity ???
[08:36] <infidel> sn9, yeah
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> tengo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video
[08:36] <dabaR> KnowledgEngi: see man apt-get the --purge option
[08:36] <sn9> tengo: nvidia-glx, and if you care, linux-k7 for the athlon-specific kernel and modules
[08:36] <amicke> dabaR: hmm but does the ubuntu cd have like repair possiblity?
[08:36] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: don't remove timidity in the first place
[08:37] <dabaR> amicke: ya, reinstallation like only.
[08:37] <KnowledgEngi> i has removed timitidy 5 minuts ago
[08:37] <dabaR> barachie: ask google, it has some info
[08:38] <amicke> dabaR:  ok :/
[08:38] <KnowledgEngi> gh the man pages about apt-get is in english
[08:38] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: then put it back, along with whatever patches and/or soundfont you want to use
[08:38] <KnowledgEngi> i did not understand wath do the option --purge
[08:39] <dabaR> KnowledgEngi: the --purge apt-get remove option deletes the config files when you uninstall a package
[08:39] <KnowledgEngi> --purge consent to install removing and ovewriting the config files?
[08:39] <CaptainMorgan> is there a system clock that maintains system uptime? if so, where is it? if not, how do I get one?
[08:40] <dabaR> CaptainMorgan: did you try uptime in a terminal?
[08:40] <CaptainMorgan> ah
[08:40] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[08:40] <infidel> sn9, any idea?
[08:40] <mdious> ph8>are you around?
[08:40] <sn9> CaptainMorgan: well, one thing you can do is just type "uptime" like so:
[08:40] <sn9>  23:40:42 up 1 day, 11:12,  2 users,  load average: 0.17, 0.17, 0.17
[08:40] <CaptainMorgan>  02:40:04 up 1 day, 23:33,  2 users,  load average: 0.25, 0.41, 0.32
[08:41] <CaptainMorgan> I imagine the second user must be root
[08:41] <tengo> fyrestrtr, sn9: thanks for your help you too...may god that doesn't exist praise you
[08:41] <KnowledgEngi> apt-get --purge remove PACKAGENAME
[08:41] <KnowledgEngi> ?
[08:41] <dabaR> don't, you'll summon the big one!!1;)
[08:41] <slicky> hi.. i use a swedish keyboard.. should i use utf-8 as layout then?
[08:41] <VigoFusion> CaptainMorgan: Yes there is,uptime in yerminal and there is a System Tool that does it graphically
[08:41] <KnowledgEngi> is correct the syntax ?
[08:41] <istuk> type who to know who the other user is
[08:41] <KnowledgEngi> sn9,
[08:41] <dabaR> tengo: heh
[08:41] <VigoFusion> yerminal? *terminal
[08:41] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: it is
[08:41] <dabaR> KnowledgEngi: not you
[08:41] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR:it worked, in a way
[08:42] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: OK, are you now in Ubuntu?
[08:42] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR:then I did something very terrible >.<
[08:42] <knix> How can I get the height of a font in X?
[08:43] <sn9> infidel: it's buried in hidden folders in your home folder
[08:43] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR: Now I need to recover the second account's password, i just need to get into the md5sum for it
[08:43] <istuk> thanks for the help - out
[08:43] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR: don't worry about it I'm just gonna do this later
[08:43] <mdious> i need to apt-get life lol
[08:43] <mordof> hey hey i got a question! is it possible to install ubuntu server remotely!?
[08:44] <keeganX> you mean sudo apt-get life
[08:44] <mordof> nah, life isn;'t that important
[08:44] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: to recover the password, you can run passwd heiro in recovery mode
[08:44] <dabaR> it will let yu change it
[08:45] <mdious> keeganX>OH and all this time i could have had a life...i was forgetting the sudo part, no wonder i'm still the way i am lol
[08:45] <Heiroglyphics> dabaR:so i just type in passwrd heiro and thats it?
[08:45] <dabaR> Heiroglyphics: that will change the password for the heiro user
[08:45] <Heiroglyphics> dabar, thanks for your help and time sorry I'm such a noob
[08:45] <dabaR> no worries
[08:46] <sn9> mordof: install remotely? sometimes you just gotta be there...
[08:46] <Heiroglyphics> ok later and have fun and thanks very much
[08:46] <dabaR> see ya
[08:46] <mordof> that's no fun!!
[08:46] <mordof> sn9, but it's down in the basement.. and id on't want to go get it
[08:47] <sn9> mordof: you're in the same building and you still wanna do it remotely???
[08:47] <dabaR> haha
[08:47] <KnowledgEngi> sn9, I has removed timidity, fluidsynth, qsynth and rosegarden using --purge option
[08:47] <KnowledgEngi> now what i must to do???
[08:47] <mdious> sometimes getting up takes just too much energy...that and our server room is far to freezing to do anything in there for more than a few minutes :P
[08:47] <junglerob> Maybe the computer room is *really* cold.
[08:48] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: put timidity back, and any patches and/or soundfonts you want to use
[08:48] <KnowledgEngi> for realtime i have no problem becouse i have a kernel that use "timer frequency = 1000 hz"
[08:48] <mordof> sn9: it's the BASEMENT.. the compy is shoved in the back cold corner where it's hard to get at, lol.. took me 40 mins to set it up and turn it on
[08:48] <fnf> Hello, has anyone compiled a custom kernel in Edgy ? I have a few problems that couldn't be resolved yet.
[08:49] <fnf> anyone, please ?
[08:49] <sn9> mordof: how the blazes do you expect to install remotely if the machine isn't even powered on?
[08:49] <dabaR> !seen anyone
[08:49] <minerale> how may I use iptables to forward all connections coming in port 80 to port 8888 ?
[08:49] <ubotu> I haven't seen anyone recently
[08:50] <mordof> sn9: it's on...
[08:50] <dabaR> fnf: he has not been in the channel recently, but if you ask your question, the rest of us will try to help
[08:50] <KnowledgEngi> sn9, I need install timidity and timidity-patches-eaw ?
[08:50] <mdious> minerale> http://www.hackorama.com/network/portfwd.shtml
[08:50] <mordof> sn9: i'm not an idiot! lol.. it's running and i can use it remotely
[08:51] <fnf> dabaR: (sigh) thank you
[08:51] <keeganX> idiot
[08:51] <mdious> minerale>/sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 -d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[08:51] <mdious> 		 --dport 8888 -j DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[08:51] <mdious> /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i eth0 -d <IP_ADDRESS> --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[08:51] <fnf> So, has anyone encoutered problems with a completely black console ?
[08:52] <dabaR> fnf: you compiled a custom kernel, and when you boot it you get a console that has no letters?
[08:52] <KnowledgEngi> sn9, I has install timidity and timidity-patches-eaw
[08:53] <KnowledgEngi> now what i do ?
[08:53] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: my recommendations for patches, options, and a soundfont are in the howto
[08:53] <globe> what are some cd ripper progs that produce *good* sound from cds?  Last time I ripped cds the sound quality was horrible....
[08:53] <fnf> dabaR: To ensure maximum compatibility, I have made the new kernel that as bloated as possible, but to no avail. The logs reported vesafb driver has been loaded correctly, but there was no dispaly characters.
[08:53] <keeganX> sound juicer?
[08:53] <dabaR> globe: you used sound-juicer?
[08:53] <Jordan_U> globe: Like FLAC lossless or just good mp3?
[08:53] <KnowledgEngi> sn9, Are you mean this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:54] <globe> dabaR, keeganX, thx, ill try it.
[08:54] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: yes, i wrote major parts of that page
[08:54] <dabaR> fnf: not sure what to do in that case, sorry
[08:54] <globe> Jordan_U: I dont have too much a preference, but i'd like a program that supports multiple codecs
[08:54] <corevette> whats the difference from xgl and compiz
[08:54] <fnf> dabaR: startx could bring up the X server, just in case, I suspect there's some obscure console config that caused it.
[08:54] <fnf> dabaR: Thanks anyway.
[08:55] <dabaR> fnf: welcome:)
[08:55] <mdious> gotta go, cya everyone, thanks for the company :)
[08:55] <Loco-moto> ummm,.  im trying to compile somthing here and it says    C compiler unable to create executables./....        any help
[08:55] <Jordan_U> corevette: XGL is what enables 3D effects , compiz is what actually handles how windows should wobble :)
[08:55] <dabaR> Loco-moto: did you install a compiler?
[08:56] <socrates> hi all. I would like to figure out why all french accent characters in my files are resulting in funny characters being sent over email---even when they look ok with editting the file containing the characters.. I think it's my locale settings. ANyone know what I'm talking about
[08:56] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: just don't run it as a midi server unless you really need that
[08:56] <ochosi> hi, i seem to be unable to start jackd. it says "the playback device "hw:0" is already in use." esd or anything alike doesn't seem to be running. reboot doesn't help. any ideas?
[08:56] <globe> dabaR: is Sound Juicer pretty fault tolerant (ie, somewhat scratched cd still yields a good rip)?
[08:56] <dabaR> ochosi: did you stop alsa?
[08:56] <corevette> is it risky installing xgl/compiz?
[08:56] <dabaR> globe: did for me...depends on the scratch maybe
[08:56] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: if you want it to start on boot anyway, there is a section of the page on that, too
[08:56] <Slart> Hello, when I record something using the sound recorder and then play it back it is played back in a higher pitch.. kind of when you play a soundfile with a too high sample frequency. Are there settings for this? if so, where?
[08:56] <Loco-moto> dabar:   kinda new  ushally wit kde and stuff,,   u mean like gcc or somthing,   and how do i do it
[08:56] <ochosi> dabaR, well is there still any sound if i do that?
[08:56] <corevette> and how much video memory do you need for xgl/compiz?
[08:57] <dabaR> Loco-moto: install build-essential, then try again
[08:57] <Loco-moto> thanks
[08:57] <globe> dabaR: well yea, but for example (on windows) itunes will rip most anything w/o errors, even audiograbber fouls up on scratches
[08:57] <Jordan_U> corevette: Somewhat, it is safer to use AIGLX if possible , ie if you have an intel or Nvidia card.
[08:57] <dabaR> ochosi: try this, run lsof /dev/dsp, show us output
[08:57] <corevette> jordan_u yeah i have nvidia, how much video memory do you need normally
[08:57] <dabaR> globe: I can't tell you, you should try
[08:58] <globe> dabaR: oh, i'll try ;-) thx
[08:58] <ochosi> dabaR, wow i just shut down alsa and now jackd started... why's that?
[08:58] <Loco-moto> does it matter where i install it to dabaR??   well actully it wont take ne dir i give it
[08:59] <ochosi> dabaR, lsof /dev/dsp gives no output at all
[08:59] <dabaR> Loco-moto: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[08:59] <dabaR> ochosi: well, as I understand, and I have minimal knowledge of this, is that either alsa or jack, not both.
[08:59] <dabaR> ochosi: well it works now, so don't bother
[09:00] <Loco-moto> ok that worked dandy dabaR: but it cant find any build essentials pkgs...  lol
[09:00] <fnf> corevette: The root of instability lies in the display driver, if you are lucky.
[09:00] <Slart> Loco-moto: skip the s at the end
[09:00] <dabaR> Loco-moto: you just installed build-essential, try compiling again
[09:01] <dabaR> Loco-moto: or...you are confusing me
[09:01] <Loco-moto> slart:    ty :) *smacks*
[09:01] <Jordan_U> corevette: I don't know exactly but not anything much really, beryl runs fine on even modest integrated graphics cards.
[09:01] <Loco-moto> dabar   dnt wry
[09:01] <Loco-moto> was a typo
[09:01] <slicky> &j #ubuntu/xgl
[09:01] <dabaR> Loco-moto: Oh, I get it
[09:01] <Slart> =)
[09:01] <Loco-moto> lol
[09:01] <ochosi> dabaR, ok, thanks anyway!
[09:01] <dabaR> ochosi: welcome
[09:01] <luke_> Hello folks.  I have a question.   I have 6.10 installed on my Desktop and Laptop.  However, on my desktop whenever I install something it asks that I insert the Ubuntu CD.  Any reason for this?  Is there a way to disable it?
[09:01] <fnf> corevette: beryl/compiz may be configured to run acceptably fine on a 32MB graphics card, the lower end I'm not sure as I don't own one.
[09:02] <dabaR> luke_: remove the cd line from /etc/apt/sources.list. you need to use gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list to edit it.
[09:02] <sn9> luke_: yes. it would be a checkbox in System -> Administration -> Software Properties
[09:02] <luke_> thanks :)
[09:03] <Loco-moto> i just love a compiling screen without the word "error"   just makes me wana jump with joy
[09:03] <dabaR> sn9: nice. software sources, though.
[09:03] <sn9> dabaR: sorry, looking at dapper here
[09:03] <dabaR> sn9: well, that is what it is called here anyhow, but it is a really cool applet, I like it.
[09:04] <Jordan_U> sn9: Wow, I hadn't seen the software-sopurces app before, much easier than explaining to people how to edit thier sources.list :)
[09:04] <Jordan_U> *sources
[09:04] <Nuked> what new widget?
[09:05] <sn9> dabaR: it's not new. it was "Software Properties" in 6.06, and in 5.10, it was buried in Synaptic
[09:06] <Jordan_U> sn9: But this new one has a much easier interface IMHO than synaptic did for repos.
[09:06] <dabaR> Jordan_U, sn9: and it is more accessible too. I mean new as in newly discovered
[09:07] <sn9> Jordan_U: in 5.10, yes. however, the 6.06 one already had the simplicity you're looking for. as the matter of fact, IMHO, the 6.06 one had an even easier interface than the 6.10 one
[09:08] <bobbie__4> I'm bored can someone kick me for fun?
[09:08] <Loco-moto> well ne one know a good ps2 emulator?
[09:08] <bobbie__4> ouch!!
[09:08] <dabaR> !find ps2
[09:08] <ubotu> Found: ps2eps, yapps2, yapps2-runtime
[09:08] <dabaR> !info ps2eps
[09:08] <ubotu> ps2eps: convert PostScript to EPS (Encapsulated PostScript) files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.58-2 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 112 kB
[09:08] <bobbie__4> bobbie falls to the floor clutching his nutsack
[09:09] <dabaR> !find playstation
[09:09] <ubotu> Package/file playstation does not exist in edgy
[09:09] <Nuked> !info yapps2
[09:09] <ubotu> yapps2: Yet Another Python Parser System. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-17 (edgy), package size 60 kB, installed size 260 kB
[09:09] <sn9> dabaR: ps2 is just too new
[09:09] <Loco-moto> u mean i wont b abled to play ps2 roms?
[09:09] <Loco-moto> with a ps2 emu on ebuntu
[09:09] <Loco-moto> ?
[09:09] <huiber1> What are these !find commands thigies here?
[09:10] <KnowledgEngi> sn9, http://rafb.net/paste/results/pGBZ7n52.html
[09:10] <Nuked> if you can find a ps2 emulator
[09:10] <Nuked> and if your roms are legally aquired
[09:10] <Loco-moto> k, whew,,,, scared me for a sec
[09:10] <dabaR> huiber1: find makes ubotu search for packages, and even for files you specify after the keyword
[09:10] <Healot> Loco-moto: iirc, there is no such emu ported to linux
[09:10] <KnowledgEngi> i has do only what you see in the paste page
[09:10] <Loco-moto> umm,
[09:10] <Loco-moto> Healot
[09:10] <Loco-moto> ...
[09:10] <Loco-moto> nsx2
[09:10] <Jordan_U> huiber1: ubotu is a bot, you tell it to do a command by making a comment with ! in front of it.
[09:10] <Loco-moto> and pcsx2 are src
[09:11] <huiber1> Are there any other commands ?
[09:11] <Loco-moto> for win and linux
[09:11] <fnf> !help
[09:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:11] <Nuked> !find nsx2
[09:11] <dabaR> !usage > huiber1
[09:11] <ubotu> Package/file nsx2 does not exist in edgy
[09:11] <Slart> hmm.. when I'm using aoss with teamspeak I get echoes from myself... similar to using "record what u hear" in windows... ie it's not recording from the microphone only..  I cant find any setting for this.. any hints?
[09:11] <Nuked> !usage > Nuked
[09:12] <dabaR> huiber1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:12] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: yes, for basic midi playback, that is correct. for improved playback, use the SGM soundfont mentioned further down the page
[09:12] <huiber1> Thaks for the info, I'm reading it just now..
[09:12] <Healot> Loco-moto: it is not in uubntu official repos btw, i don't give ~
[09:13] <KnowledgEngi> sn9, Finding and setting up a soundfont
[09:13] <KnowledgEngi> this section ??
[09:14] <sigp239> what is the command to pass the ubuntu installer so it doesn't use dma for my cd drive?
[09:14] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: yes. also, unless your cpu is blazing fast, follow the steps at the bottom to reduce cpu usage. i recommend doing that even on a p4
[09:14] <Healot> man hdparm
[09:14] <KnowledgEngi> i has AMD athlon xp
[09:14] <KnowledgEngi> 32 bit
[09:15] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: yes, i would still recommend reducing cpu usage as described at the bottom
[09:15] <dabaR> sigp239: there is some info here, but not exactly what you ask, I don't think: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[09:16] <Kvek> GoodMorning all
[09:16] <huiber1> !search dma
[09:16] <ubotu> Found: backspace-error-#ubuntu-xgl,dma,alt-gr-#ubuntu-xgl,winkey,oldworld
[09:16] <FluxD>  hi I am trying to install beryl on edgy. this repo (deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main)is not working do I have to use the svn one?
[09:16] <Kvek> Can i please get some help?
[09:16] <huiber1> !dma
[09:16] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[09:16] <Healot> man hdparm >> sigp239
[09:16] <Log1x> Does Ubuntu have a problem with Virtual PC 2004 ?
[09:17] <darko3d> i'm installing beryl on aiglx, and this command sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, will upgrade all the list, whereas i only want it to upgrade those two   ssh-askpass-gnome xinit xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-driver-ati ------  xserver-xorg-driver-i810  how can i do that??
[09:17] <Log1x> I'm getting a error trying to boot Id "#" respawning to fast, paused for 5 minutes
[09:17] <keeganX> I do.
[09:17] <Log1x> or something
[09:17] <Log1x> disabled for 5 minutes
[09:17] <Jordan_U> FluxD: No, there are other repos see the ununtu wiki.
[09:17] <Log1x> and its going non stop
[09:17] <Kvek> I'm currently installing ubuntu and i have a bunch of numbers and letters on my screen
[09:17] <Jordan_U> FluxD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[09:17] <Log1x> is there something i can do to stop this Id "#" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes :x
[09:17] <Log1x> It's just doing random numbers 1-6
[09:18] <Log1x> in place of the # i had above
[09:18] <Kvek> these numbers are 303.
[09:18] <sn9> Kvek: is it stuck?
[09:18] <Kvek> yes
[09:18] <huiber1> Log1x, this message might come when Linux is not able to setup tty consoles at boot.........
[09:18] <KnowledgEngi> sn9, I have this soundfont: /home/user/soundfonts/GM.sf2
[09:18] <KnowledgEngi> I need just edit /etc/timidity/timidity.cfg and add the line: soundfont /home/user/soundfonts/GM.sf2
[09:18] <KnowledgEngi> ??
[09:19] <dabaR> darko3d: to upgrade a specific package only, try giving an install command for that particualr package
[09:19] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: the soundfont i recommend is called SGM-180 or something similar
[09:19] <huiber1> I got this problem once in 1998, after compiling my own kernel
[09:19] <huiber1> Never heard it happen to anybody not fiddling around with the kernel.
[09:19] <darko3d> what is the correct command
[09:19] <FluxD> thx  Jordan_U is svn or the normal one better?
[09:19] <Kvek> sn9 what am i to do?
[09:19] <KnowledgEngi> is good for classical music???
[09:19] <dabaR> huiber1: nice, I learned something from you now, the search command.
[09:20] <sn9> Kvek: what was the last thing it did before it got stuck?
[09:20] <KnowledgEngi> i study music composer in a music school
[09:20] <omkar86> hi I installed xubuntu-desktop but now my old gdm style has gone, how to restore gdm?
[09:20] <dabaR> darko3d: sudo aptitude install <packageName>
[09:20] <Kvek> well i have a bunch on 303.numbers
[09:20] <huiber1> dabaR, I'm just reading the Wiki, there are many more commands, quiette fun.
[09:20] <enyc> Hrrm, I am not sure who to assign this bug to :-  https://://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cdrtools/+bug/70098 -- lpease tell me what procedure this sort of things goes thrugh // howto get it looked at / what I can do to help / etc. ;-)
[09:20] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: the SGM-180 would definitely be sufficient for classical
[09:20] <dorian_> doyou speke french?
[09:20] <dabaR> !fr
[09:20] <devilsadvocate> omkar86, in setiing go to login screen and select the gdm theme of your choice
[09:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:21] <Kvek> last one is 303.474081 with code 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 and some ff ff ff
[09:21] <darko3d> thanks
[09:21] <sn9> Kvek: ohhhhhhhh...
[09:21] <Kvek> yeah
[09:21] <sn9> Kvek: that's called a "kernel oops"
[09:21] <dabaR> sn9: in technical jjargon
[09:22] <Kvek> what do i do?
[09:22] <sigp239> Healot how does hdparm help?  i am looking for the option to pass the ubuntu installer so my cd-rom drive will work right.  i think it needs to have dma disabled
[09:22] <imsdle> I have just pulled out my old harddisk, and put it in my ubuntu new computer... but i can't mount it. the old computer was fedora core 5.. any idea
[09:22] <imsdle> s
[09:22] <imsdle> ?
[09:22] <enyc> Somebady please tell we the correct channel in which to discuss Ubuntu-bugs ;-)
[09:22] <sigp239> what is the command to pass the ubuntu installer so it doesn't use dma for my cd drive?
[09:22] <Healot> sigp239: man hdparm and thou shall know
[09:22] <devilsadvocate> imsdle, what seems to be the problem?
[09:23] <slicky> hm.. i cant make my xmodmap load at startup..
[09:23] <imsdle> I don't know how to find the harddisk.. and i don't know how to mount it
[09:23] <sod75> imsdle: check how the partitions are called via dmesg
[09:23] <Kvek> what can i do ?
[09:23] <imsdle> i have done all the mkdir /media/ohd
[09:23] <imsdle> and all that
[09:23] <devilsadvocate> imsdle, did you restart your computer after you put in the new hard disk?
[09:23] <sn9> Kvek: well, if it happened during installation, you're really in for a lot of headaches if you want anything to work, unless of course, it's a one-time fluke
[09:23] <imsdle> yes...
[09:24] <sod75> them mount with " mount /dev/hdx /media/ohd1 "
[09:24] <nilson> anyone here using BIND on their Ubuntu installation?
[09:24] <fnf> slicky: It depends on your WM or DE, what is the one you're using ?
[09:24] <sigp239> Healot: not getting it
[09:24] <KnowledgEngi> sn9, i has not find the soundfont that you concile me !!
[09:24] <nilson> My BIND seems to be running but its not listening
[09:24] <slicky> fnf:  huh? i want to use xmodmap.se
[09:24] <Kvek> so is it not going to work sn9
[09:24] <dabaR> enyc: well, there is a #ubuntu-bugs, but you reported it, and can really only wait, pay someone to work on it, or work on it yourself.
[09:24] <enyc> nilson: Ive dealt with DNS but use  NSD and nor bind...
[09:24] <imsdle> i get mount: special device /dev/hdx does not exist
[09:24] <sn9> Kvek: did it only happen once?
[09:24] <huiber1> sigp239, at boot time, edit the boot line, and append:
[09:24] <huiber1> --ide=nodma
[09:24] <imsdle> i have tried hdb hdb2 etc etc etc etc
[09:24] <Kvek> yeah i've still got it on the screen
[09:25] <enyc> dabaR: I see... so I am not supposetd to assign it to the package maintainer or contact the maintainer ?
[09:25] <devilsadvocate> imsdle, it might be sda
[09:25] <nilson> enyc, I ran BIND for two years on Gentoo but I cant get it to work right in this new Ubuntu install
[09:25] <slicky> fnf:  i added it in the session startup program handler.. and when i reboot it gone..
[09:25] <devilsadvocate> imsdle, it it a sata hard drive?
[09:25] <imsdle> no... ide
[09:25] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: did you see this statement on the page? "A big list may be found at [WWW]  http://timidity.s11.xrea.com/files/readme_cfgp.htm in which the fifth soundfont from the top (SGM-whatever) is quite complete for general use with TiMidity++."
[09:25] <nilson> enyc, it's installed and running and I have my zonefile configured, but BIND doesnt seem to be listening on its port
[09:25] <fnf> slicky: Ok, so you're running Ubuntu desktop. Wait a minute, I'm not using desktop right now.
[09:25] <enyc> nilson: hrrm... trying to run authoritative dns? trying to run recurive dns? trying to rut forwarder dns?  what is happening?
[09:25] <atomikulinux> Hey there, I've just realised the hard drive ubuntu is on is faulty. I do have another one spare though. Is there an easy way to copy all the files across?
[09:25] <Kvek> Hey sn9 what am i to do?
[09:26] <imsdle> old 10mb drive.. runing fedore core 5... installed ubuntu onto a new hard disk.. now i want to copy my docs and emails over
[09:26] <devilsadvocate> imsdle, in a terminal run "cd /dev
[09:26] <nilson> authoritative for my domain
[09:26] <nilson> its just not responding to queries
[09:26] <imsdle> yup
[09:26] <KnowledgEngi> http://timidity.s11.xrea.com/files/readme_cfgp.htm
[09:26] <KnowledgEngi> i was searching here
[09:26] <Jordan_U> slicky: I believe you just need to make a file named something like .xmodmap in your home folder for it to load automatically.
[09:26] <imsdle> i get 1.4 entries
[09:26] <slicky> fnf:  okey, im using xgl berly.. and i need the xmod.se to load.. to get my keyboard right..
[09:26] <imsdle> 1.4 billion... listings i mean
[09:26] <sn9> Kvek: try the installation a second time to see whether it happens again
[09:26] <devilsadvocate> 1.4 billion?
[09:26] <Kvek> ok
[09:27] <imsdle> lots and lots
[09:27] <devilsadvocate> just do cd /dev
[09:27] <sod75> imsdle: do "dmesg | grep hd" " and check what your drive is, it can be hda, hdb, hdc, etc...
[09:27] <slicky> Jordan_U:  oh, so i just copy the xmodmap.se from /usr/share/xmodmap/ to my homedir?
[09:27] <fnf> slicky: You may put "xmodmap xmodmap.se" into your ~/.xinitrc script
[09:27] <devilsadvocate> then, do "ls |grep da
[09:27] <devilsadvocate> "
[09:27] <enyc> nilson: well what I can say... is that if you dont want recursion you can easily install NSD instead which is more efficient and recure  but does not implement 'views' and does not implement recursion by design.. taht definitely works AND uses BIND zonefiles
[09:27] <slicky> fnf:  and that script is im my homedir?
[09:27] <imsdle> that worked!
[09:27] <enyc> nilson: have you looked for errors in the logfiles?
[09:27] <imsdle> woo hoo
[09:27] <Kvek> ok starting again
[09:27] <sn9> Kvek: if it does, you're probably gonna need more help than you can get in this channel
[09:27] <devilsadvocate> imsdle, what worked?
[09:27] <nilson> i just want to keep it simple
[09:28] <nilson> and no I havent
[09:28] <fnf> slicky: Yes, ~ means your home directory
[09:28] <fnf> slicky: 'man xinit' for more info
[09:28] <nilson> But
[09:28] <Kvek> sn9 i'm just looking for a beter alternative than win98
[09:28] <nilson> when I do /etc/init.d/bind9 stop
[09:28] <omkar86> how to disable workspace switching on mouse scroll?
[09:28] <nilson>  * Stopping domain name service...                                                                                rndc: connect failed: connection refused
[09:28] <nilson> I get that
[09:28] <phillijw> i just set up ndiswrapper and it made the eth1 interface show up and stuff. dmesg has no errors but iwlist eth1 scan doesnt return any results. help. ive used the same drivers before on another distro and they worked fine
[09:28] <devilsadvocate> imsdle, great !
[09:28] <slicky> fnf:  i dont have a .xinitrc in my ~
[09:29] <sn9> Kvek: this is likely it, but some computers are just finicky
[09:29] <enyc> nilson: its realyl easy and simple to setup nsd... you copy/change the example nsd.zones and copy all your files in and run 'sudo nsdc rebuild' and 'sudo nsdc reload' and it works
[09:29] <fnf> slicky: Then create one, GNOME by default doesn't build one into your home.
[09:29] <enyc> nilson: you will need to look in /var/log/messages or wherever it dumps errors
[09:29] <Vieng> hi all
[09:29] <Jordan_U> phillijw: Are you running edgy?
[09:29] <phillijw> dapper
[09:30] <dabaR> !hi
[09:30] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:30] <Vieng> how can i chat with my friends
[09:30] <Kvek> by the way sn9 when i sent for the disk they only sent me 1 and it's ver. 6.06
[09:30] <enyc> nilson: BIND has this annoying habit of dumping errors where you cant see them unless you go looking, so it may not start a zone but you will have no idea at first.
[09:30] <Jordan_U> Vieng: gaim ?
[09:30] <phillijw> Vieng: buy a cell phone
[09:30] <dabaR> !chat
[09:30] <sn9> KnowledgEngi: it's right near the top of that page. still the 5th one, just like the wiki says
[09:30] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[09:30] <imsdle> how do you unmount
[09:30] <Vieng> they are using yahoo messenger in Windows
[09:30] <nilson> hm
[09:30] <slicky> fnf:  kk..  so i just type the dir to my xmod file in that script? and it runs auto?
[09:30] <fnf> Vieng: Err, this is a public IRC channel, I suppose you know that.
[09:30] <phillijw> i actually like kopete
[09:30] <Jordan_U> imsdle: man umount
[09:30] <sn9> Kvek: btw, what kind of computer is it?
[09:30] <devilsadvocate> Vieng, use Gaim or Kopete
[09:30] <fnf> slicky: sure, your .xinitrc is an executable script that will be automagically called when you start the X server
[09:30] <huiber1> !man umount
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about man umount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <dabaR> Vieng: set up a yahoo account in your gaim
[09:31] <Log1x> !man drivers
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about man drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <Kvek> Toshiba Tecra 8000 laptop
[09:31] <Vieng> uhm how can i do that
[09:31] <omkar86> how to disable workspace switching due to mouse scroll?
[09:31] <Healot> you're chatting now aren;t you?
[09:31] <huiber1> !find umount
[09:31] <slicky> fnf:  do i have to chmod x on it?
[09:31] <Vieng> because im very new to linux
[09:31] <Log1x> !find drivers
[09:31] <ubotu> File umount found in fdutils, hfsplus, hfsutils, klibc-utils, loop-aes-utils (and 9 others)
[09:31] <devilsadvocate> !drivers | Log1x
[09:31] <ubotu> File drivers found in casper, cdrdao, foomatic-db-engine, grass, hwdata (and 9 others)
[09:31] <Log1x> oh
[09:31] <Log1x> lol
[09:31] <Log1x> !drivers
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <VigoFusion> wheeee
[09:31] <atomikulinux> hey log1x
[09:31] <atomikulinux> its meee!
[09:31] <Log1x> lol sup atomiku
[09:31] <Log1x> dude
[09:31] <fnf> slicky: Yes.
[09:32] <Log1x> go to my chan
[09:32] <Log1x> i need help
[09:32] <Log1x> with some stuff
[09:32] <Jordan_U> !botabuse
[09:32] <atomikulinux> I think im in there
[09:32] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[09:32] <atomikulinux> Hey there, I've just realised the hard drive ubuntu is on is faulty. I do have another one spare though. Is there an easy way to copy all the files across?
[09:32] <Log1x> i know but like
[09:32] <Log1x> make it active
[09:32] <dabaR> Vieng: Applications menu>Internet>Gaim it will present you with an empty accounts screen, press add, choose yahoo as the account. Do you have a yahoo account?
[09:32] <nilson> enyc, whats apparently happening is that rndc cant connect or interface with BIND
[09:32] <dabaR> omkar86: in gnome?
[09:32] <nilson> rndc: connect failed: connection refused
[09:32] <nilson> every time I try to do something I get that
[09:32] <omkar86> dabar:xfce and gnome
[09:32] <Vieng> #dabaR: yes i do
[09:32] <cobelloy> hi there - anyone know how to set the default audio device? I got two and the wrong one plays all the sounds
[09:33] <fnf> atomikulinux: You may use dd
[09:33] <Vieng> dabaR: and how on...
[09:33] <dabaR> omkar86: you just scroll the wheel and it changes your workspace?
[09:33] <slicky> fnf: and one other thing i just discoverd.. i cant make files in my home dir.. lol
[09:33] <omkar86> dabaR: yes in xgce
[09:33] <dabaR> Vieng: fill in the information, press save, and click the connect checkbox
[09:33] <huiber1> !find perl > me
[09:33] <ubotu> Found: eperl, libapache2-mod-perl2, libapache2-mod-perl2-dev, libapache2-mod-perl2-doc, libappconfig-perl (and 1162 others)
[09:33] <Kvek> something wrong with my laptop sn9
[09:33] <fnf> slicky: ? What does 'ls -la ~' says ?
[09:33] <omkar86> i don't want it to change workspace
[09:34] <dabaR> huiber1: play with him in private, please, /msg ubotu hi, then send him pms
[09:34] <huiber1> slicky, list all files in MY_HOME_DIR
[09:34] <Kvek> ok my screen just went blank
[09:34] <atomikulinux> fnf: okay. So i'm thinking of plugging in a spare hard drive instead of one of the cdrom drives. Then copying it over with "dd". Afterwards ill take out the ubuntu drive and put the spare drive where the ubuntu drive is
[09:34] <Vieng> which field should i fill my yahoo account in
[09:34] <omkar86> dabaR:when i click on desktop wallpaper and scroll it changes my workspace
[09:34] <atomikulinux> Any problems with that? will GRUB get all moody?
[09:34] <dabaR> cobelloy: you should disable the wrong one in bios if possible
[09:34] <slicky> fnf:  it says.. im the owner.. and the group..
[09:34] <sn9> Kvek: it's a laptop? yeah, more often than not, a kernel oops is indicative of something not quite kosher
[09:34] <VigoFusion> Vieng: Ever used Trillian or a multi client chat program? its same thing, select the client you want to use, enter the data in as registered, and game on.
[09:34] <enyc> nilson: hrrm not sure I use nsdc not rdnc ;-)
[09:35] <dabaR> omkar86: in xfce that is? I do not use xfce, so sorry, what is the issue in gnome?
[09:35] <slicky> fnf:  ow w8.. the nano_history is ownd by root.. that not right, right?
[09:35] <cobelloy> dabaR: I have one sound card and a usb audio device - I need both
[09:35] <imsdle> i have a problem.. i have mounted all the hdb (hdb, hdb1, hdb2) but they only seem to have the root partition.... i.e. the fedora core 5 partition.. how do i find the other partitions on the hdb?
[09:35] <cobelloy> dabaR: but right now all sounds come from usb device
[09:35] <Jordan_U> atomikulinux: You can tell grub to look for new / differendt partitions with the update-grub command.
[09:35] <fnf> atomikulinux: It really depends on your configuration, the best way IMO is to move your home dir into a safe partition then thrash the driver, in case you didn't keep your home dir in a separate partition.
[09:36] <atomikulinux> Hmm
[09:36] <omkar86> dabaR: i think gnome doesn't change it, thanx anyways
[09:36] <fnf> slicky: That's unusual, I guess you did call nano the first time as root.
[09:36] <devilsadvocate> imsdle, you need to mount each of the partitions on a different mounoint
[09:36] <atomikulinux> I sorta understand....
[09:36] <nilson> enyc is NSD in apt
[09:36] <Jordan_U> atomikulinux: You will need to run update-grub by chrooting into your current install with a liveCD
[09:36] <atomikulinux> Let me just reboot with this new hard drive in
[09:36] <atomikulinux> 3 minutes :)
[09:36] <slicky> fnf:  ow.. kk.. i fixed it.. just chown n stuff ;D
[09:37] <Vieng> ok o'll try thanks all
[09:37] <enyc> nilson: yes, in universe
[09:37] <fnf> atomikulinux: Plain copying into another partition could work, but most likely will not work out-of-the-box.
[09:37] <huiber1> Has anybody got ekiga running?
[09:37] <huiber1> I tries the setup yesterday, but don't have anybody to call :(
[09:37] <nilson> completely new to debian/ubuntu-what is universe
[09:37] <johnnythawte> does anybody really use Openbox or FVWM ?
[09:37] <dabaR> Vieng: there is a tutorial at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto
[09:37] <nilson> Im from gentoo
[09:37] <enyc> nilson: it is very stable/reliable but not suitable if you want 'views' or 'recursion'
[09:37] <nilson> how do I get it
[09:37] <Jordan_U> !universe | nilson
[09:37] <ubotu> nilson: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:38] <dabaR> nilson: read the components link to see the concept, then see the repositories to see the usage
[09:38] <kaur> can i use any other than the generic kernel with edgy?
[09:38] <devilsadvocate> johnnythawte, i have fvwm. i use fluxbox though mostly
[09:38] <huiber1>  !EasySource > me
[09:38] <slicky> fnf:  kk.. so my startupscript looks like this:  line 1: #!/bin/sh    line2: /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.se      is that ok?
[09:38] <xsje> Hi All! How do i switch the vmware serverconsole from full screen to windowed screen?
[09:38] <Jordan_U> nilson: By editing your xources.list file or with System -> Administration -> Software sources.
[09:39] <johnnythawte> devilsadvocate: what's the appeal of using the lightweight window manager on today's hardware ?
[09:39] <johnnythawte> (honestly curious)
[09:39] <fnf> slicky: xinitrc is a general way to build your own startup script but that is not guaranteed to work across all DEs and WMs. Usually I use the native method that a DE/WM provides. GNOME deleted your startup command in Sessions is weird. Just give it a try.
[09:39] <dabaR> cobelloy: the best I can do is direct you to this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems, crimsun knows lots, try catching him some time.
[09:39] <nilson> I don't have a GUI :P
[09:39] <nilson> I'll edit the sources.list
[09:39] <fnf> slicky: No.
[09:39] <devilsadvocate> johnnythawte, i dont have todays hardware :)
[09:39] <enyc> nilson: i.e. "different answers to different networks" or "a server you can point at with /etc/resolv.conf to do dns-lookups" , are not implemented, essentially by choices at design-time.
[09:39] <johnnythawte> devilsadvocate: ah, well that makes sense then!
[09:39] <dabaR> johnnythawte: no unneded usage of pixels, I use openbox, and am in love with the UI.
[09:39] <fnf> slicky: It is 'xmodmap /usr/share/xmodma/xmodmap.se'
[09:39] <nilson> enyc I don't need to do anything but run the DNS for my domain NSD should work fine
[09:39] <johnnythawte> openbox seems pretty cool
[09:40] <enyc> nilson: (nsd runs k.root-servers.net. and h.root-servers.net.)
[09:40] <slicky> fnf:  ow.. kk =)  thanks
[09:40] <enyc> nilson: thats a good choice then. i know it works on at least dapper
[09:40] <johnnythawte> I dislike the unneeded pixels in Gnome
[09:40] <fnf> slicky: man is your friend ;) 'man xmodmap'
[09:40] <devilsadvocate> johnnythawte, besides, sometimes you dont want all those bells and whistles. i find fluxbox if much much more efficient in terms of use than xfce, for example, and even gnome
[09:40] <xsje> How do i switch the vmware serverconsole from full screen to windowed screen?
[09:40] <dabaR> johnnythawte: hehe...
[09:40] <johnnythawte> I've been working on a guide for window managers in ubuntu
[09:40] <johnnythawte> so I've been installing all of them
[09:41] <johnnythawte> I used to use Blackbox a lot, way back when
[09:41] <dmnd> hello, i would like to install Xubuntu but i cannot find the download cd's?
[09:41] <dmnd> yes, i am new to ubuntu :)
[09:41] <slicky> fnf:  kk, thanks for your help.. ill restart x now.. and see if it works :D
[09:41] <devilsadvocate> johnnythawte, i'v tried e17, fluxbox, fvwm, fvwm-crystal. couldnt get the last to work though
[09:41] <fnf> slicky: see you :)
[09:42] <nevermind> hi channel
[09:42] <dabaR> !download | dmnd
[09:42] <ubotu> dmnd: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[09:42] <johnnythawte> e17 has some cool effects, but it's just so strange
[09:42] <dmnd> with Xubuntu, can i get E17 to work?
[09:42] <johnnythawte> I think ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu are all pretty much the same thing, just different packages
[09:42] <fnf> johnnythawte: Have you tried IceWM yet :) ? That's absolutely rocks. Simple yet elegantly implemented.
[09:42] <dmnd> ok
[09:42] <dmnd> :)
[09:42] <johnnythawte> fnf: I'm actually just about to install that right now... I just opened the homepage
[09:42] <nilson> enyc, so I enabled the universe repository; is there anything I need to do to get apt to recognize that or re-parse the config file?
[09:42] <globe> johnnythawte: are you posting this guide somewheres?
[09:43] <nilson> 'cause apt-cache isn't showing me nsd
[09:43] <johnnythawte> globe: yeah, when I'm done with it :)
[09:43] <dabaR> dmnd: http://www.xubuntu.org/get actually. You can get e17 rnning with xubuntu same as with ubuntu or kubuntu or ubuntu-server
[09:43] <fnf> johnnythawte: You'll most likely have a comfortable experience with it. I doesn't have many eye-candy, but that's not its goal anyway.
[09:43] <dmnd> dabaR: great, i am coming from gentoo and want to give ubuntu a try :)
[09:43] <devilsadvocate> johnnythawte, e17 is amazing,if only it dint screw up once in a while. I found fvwm-crystal to be the strange one !
[09:44] <dmnd> heard some good stuff about it
[09:44] <dabaR> heh, second gentoo convert in a few minutes
[09:44] <trench-> e17 ready for ubuntu?
[09:44] <dmnd> oh is it? :)
[09:44] <dabaR> yes you are
[09:44] <dabaR> ;)
[09:44] <globe> johnnythawte: good idea (the guide).  Thanks in advance for your work. ;-)
[09:44] <dmnd> :D
[09:44] <johnnythawte> I really like the DCOP interface in KDE
[09:44] <devilsadvocate> trench-, e17 isnt ready for anything. Its in alpha. but its  good.
[09:44] <johnnythawte> very cool stuff
[09:44] <wilsgrant> Question: If I install (x)ubuntu on an external HD, will I be able to usb boot into it on computers other then the one I installed the OS on?
[09:44] <nilson> I'm still using Gentoo on my desktop; switching the server for now
[09:44] <cobelloy> dabaR: thanks - but no info on this issue there
[09:44] <trench-> devilsadvocate, i see...is it on svn or the like?
[09:45] <dabaR> cobelloy: did you try the listing of available sound devices, and see both devices there?
[09:45] <fnf> wilsgrant: Yes, if you configured the BIOS to boot on USB devices. It's like Linux on a floppy
[09:46] <devilsadvocate> trench-,  there is a repo somewhere
[09:46] <dabaR> wilsgrant: well, the two computers would have to be exactly the same hardware, and both would have to have a grub installed, if I understand the theory correctly, but I think the easy answer is no.
[09:46] <trench-> devilsadvocate, gotcha...thx
[09:46] <lsproc> Hi
[09:46] <dabaR> fnf: really?
[09:46] <Jordan_U> wilsgrant: No, but there is a way to do what I think you want...
[09:46] <wilsgrant> dabaR: so ubuntu won't detect the hardware on boot?
[09:46] <lsproc> I have 2 annoying problems, the first one is that I don't want my Windows drives to be mounted on boot, how do I turn that off?
[09:46] <wilsgrant> Jordan_U: What is that?
[09:46] <dabaR> wilsgrant: I think I should shut up about this since I have no clue
[09:46] <fnf> dabaR: You could have installed GRUB on that driver also. That'll make it independent.
[09:47] <nilson> so I enabled the universe repository in sources.conf; is there anything I need to do to get apt to recognize that or re-parse the config file?
[09:47] <johnnythawte> I really want to install Compiz or Beryl, but I've been running Ubuntu from a vmware vm
[09:47] <VigoFusion> 3.5 floppies are going the way 5" did, and Cassette Tapes, which I still use on my TRS-80
[09:47] <Jordan_U> wilsgrant: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[09:47] <devilsadvocate> lsproc, remove the respective lises from fstad
[09:47] <sigp239> when i try to install ubuntu i get error "Buffer I/O error on device hdc"
[09:47] <dabaR> nilson: sudo aptitude update
[09:47] <lsproc> devilsadvocate: ok
[09:47] <lsproc> second problem
[09:47] <nilson> im using apt-get though will that still work
[09:47] <trench-> johnnythawte, shouldn't matter
[09:47] <dabaR> nilson: use aptitude !1
[09:47] <trench-> if your pc's fast enough
[09:48] <johnnythawte> trench-: the instructions say it requires openGL hardware
[09:48] <trench-> otherwise forget it
[09:48] <lsproc> i have to run ifdown eth1 && iwconfig eth1 ap any && ifup eth1 every time I reboot, due to the bcm43xx driver. Can I make it run the iwconfig eth1 ap any before it brings up the interface?
[09:48] <johnnythawte> my PC is plenty fast, I have no speed problems
[09:48] <nilson> fuck that I tried to install NFS with aptitude and ended up removing ubuntu-standard
[09:48] <nilson> and had to reinstall
[09:48] <trench-> ah...vmware drivers
[09:48] <johnnythawte> just vmware isn't one of the supported chipsets
[09:48] <slicky> fnf:  it worked :D   but hoe do i disable the shift+backspace function... so my x dosent restart
[09:48] <slicky> how*
[09:48] <trench-> just do a dual-boot instead
[09:48] <trench-> :)
[09:48] <dabaR> nilson: hehe, then just use apt-get update...
[09:49] <fnf> slicky: Wait a minute, I need to 'man xorg.conf'
[09:49] <johnnythawte> trench-: I'm debating on whether to do a dual-boot onto an external hard drive (usb)  any experience with that ?
[09:49] <dabaR> nilson: it is a useful tool to learn to use, aptitude is...
[09:49] <kaur> can i use any other than the generic kernel with edgy?
[09:49] <johnnythawte> I don't really feel like resizing my main partition
[09:49] <slicky> fnf:  hm kk, ill man it to
[09:49] <nilson> it doesnt look hard I just dont want to mess with it right now
[09:49] <atomikulinux> Okay the hard drive is in..
[09:49] <nilson> I'm accustomed to doing it via the commandline anyway with emerge
[09:49] <devilsadvocate> lsproc, i think you add the lines to /etc/rc.local
[09:49] <cobelloy> dabaR: both cards are working, they show up in alsamixer
[09:49] <wilsgrant> Jordan_U: This is an external (250 GB) USB hard drive... I was thinking of just unplugging my internal HD (to keep it simple) boot up on the xubuntu disk and telling it to install on the USB HD. This should work fine, the thing I can concerned about is if I use this external HD to boot up on a completly different computer if it will fail because of the change in hardware, or adapt when it boots like a live CD would
[09:49] <dabaR> lsproc: you can add those commands to a script and add that script to boot...
[09:50] <trench-> johnnythawte, there's nothing wrong with that, as long as your mobo actually supports booting from an external drive
[09:50] <cobelloy> dabaR: im not even sure how they got swapped around
[09:50] <dabaR> cobelloy: OK, ask crimsun when you see him.
[09:50] <johnnythawte> trench-: that's a good question... not sure. It's a laptop
[09:50] <lsproc> dabaR: Isnt there a preup thingy somewhere?
[09:50] <fnf> slicky: Ok, take a look at the ServerFlags section, you may put an 'Option "DontZap"' to /etx/X11/xorg.conf. That'll do it.
[09:50] <cobelloy> but my keyboard layout was changed somehow too
[09:50] <dabaR> lsproc: maybe.
[09:50] <PZ> is mark a spammer?
[09:50] <PZ> http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-11/msg03765.html
[09:50] <johnnythawte> I really could use a second computer
[09:50] <johnnythawte> but I'm freaking broke
[09:50] <johnnythawte> hehe
[09:51] <trench-> johnnythawte, one way to find out is to check the bios, look into the boot order...if it indicates external, removable, for boot option, you're set
[09:51] <darko3d> the beryl installation guide says: The modifications : Needs to be in the Screen section: how do i get there
[09:51] <atomikulinux> So... the hard drive is in... Now what?
[09:51] <slicky> fnf:  hm.. but its shift+backspace
[09:51] <atomikulinux> I guess I need to format it... how
[09:51] <johnnythawte> I might just partition magic my primary partition
[09:51] <fnf> slicky: What does Shift+Backspace do :-/ ?
[09:51] <trench-> darko3d, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:51] <johnnythawte> I'm just worried about trashing my system
[09:51] <slicky> fnf:  it puts me at the login screen
[09:51] <Jordan_U> wilsgrant: For the most part it will adapt, you will need to update a few things like the xorg.conf and fstab though, if you follow the guide I gave you you won't need to do that but the system may run slower and you won't be able to do kernel upgrades.
[09:52] <darko3d> so it's sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:52] <trench-> yes
[09:52] <trench-> if you use gedit
[09:52] <trench-> <-- nano guy
[09:52] <dabaR> PZ: yes.
[09:52] <PZ> auau ;)
[09:52] <slicky> fnf:  hm.. xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace"  <-- will it work?
[09:52] <fnf> slicky: That's not X server's behavior, probably GNOME-related. In that case I have no idea. Try taking a look at System --> Preferences --> Keyboard Shortcuts
[09:53] <atomikulinux> fnf... How do I get into this hard drive? I need to format it or something
[09:53] <fnf> slicky: It would, not really elegant if you ask me though.
[09:53] <VigoFusion> johnnyhawte: I use to could help you there, but we stopped takeing PCs at the Mission, to many people donated , got a $2500 tax write off and then gawfed when there emails were sent from 4rth genereation settings. I can only remove so much data, the rest takes about $10,000 in hardware.
[09:53] <wilsgrant> Jordan_U: So the fact that the guide was written for a pen drive doesn't matter?
[09:53] <fnf> atomikulinux: Please restate, what do you have now ?
[09:54] <atomikulinux> Well, ive got my spare hard drive plugged in... I just need to find out what to do with ti now
[09:54] <slicky> fnf:  oow.. it worked :D
[09:54] <nilson> enyc, so with NSD where are the zonefiles
[09:54] <fnf> slicky: Great.
[09:54] <Marlun> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on Virtual PC but during the early part of the installation I get an error that it can't detect and mount the CD.  IDE
[09:54] <Jordan_U> wilsgrant: I don't think so but I don't know for sure , the main question would be whether syslinux can be installed to a normall HD, which I believe it can.
[09:54] <fnf> atomikulinux: Sorry, I just acknowledge yours in an USB
[09:55] <trench-> Marlun, that's Virtual PC issue...not ubuntu
[09:55] <fnf> atomikulinux: Ok..
[09:55] <wilsgrant> I could install applications and retain them using this guide's method too, right?
[09:55] <dabaR> one's ubuntu is never really done.
[09:55] <Marlun> trench-: ok, but I thought that maybe I could just skip that part of the installation and it would continue using the iso.
[09:55] <fnf> atomikulinux: IDE devices are listed in /dev in order: Your first drive would be named hda1, 2nd is hda2 and so on.
[09:56] <fnf> atomikulinux: I mean your partitions, HDDs are listed in hda, hdb.... order
[09:56] <trench-> maybe try vmware...i'm not familiar with vpc
[09:56] <atomikulinux> fnf: okay sec
[09:57] <atomikulinux> I have.... a hda and a hda1
[09:57] <Jordan_U> wilsgrant: If you just want to move Ubuntu when you buy another PC or something go with a regular install and reconfigure what needs reconfiguring, if you want to have your own system with you to be able to boot on any machine and go then go with the guide.
[09:57] <atomikulinux> there should be another one though... theres 3 hard drives in my machine. theres a 1GB one that is used for swap space I think
[09:58] <fnf> atomikulinux: So you currently have a hardrive and one partition on that, is that your only HDD ?
[09:58] <atomikulinux> Oh wait
[09:58] <dabaR> fnf: use sudo fdisk -l to list hard drive info
[09:58] <fnf> dabaR: Ah, sure, 'ls -la /dev/hd*' could also do the trick though.
[09:58] <devilsadvocate> atomikulinux, do "cd /dev" and then ls |grep da"
[09:59] <atomikulinux> I have 3 hard drives... One hard drive is linux. One hard drive is a 1GB one which I havent really done anything with.. although I think ubuntu said it was gonna use it as swap space when I installed it. and theres another one... the spare one which I wanna cop the stuff through
[09:59] <atomikulinux> Each hard drive has one partition I believe
[09:59] <dabaR> fnf: it could, but the command gives useful info
[09:59] <wilsgrant> Second option is what I want, I have installed regular Ubuntu before in fact I am typing this from an ubuntu VM I made being played inside vista
[09:59] <dmnd> *shivers*
[09:59] <fnf> dabaR: Right.
[10:00] <atomikulinux> devilsadvocate: Your command returns: hda hda1 ptyda ttyda
[10:00] <fnf> atomikulinux: Do you see another hdab, hdc other than your first drive ?
[10:00] <atomikulinux> Perhaps theres a partiton program I can open up.. I need to see how my stuff is looking
[10:00] <atomikulinux> Im not even sure that my 1GB is doing anything...
[10:00] <ochosi> dabaR, hi, i donno if you can remember, asked you about jackd prob a few hours ago
[10:00] <devilsadvocate> atomikulinux,  are your harddrives all pugged in ?
[10:00] <atomikulinux> devilsadvocate: Well...
[10:00] <dabaR> atomikulinux: just run sudo fdisk -l
[10:00] <atomikulinux> They appear to be...
[10:01] <devilsadvocate> :|
[10:01] <Jordan_U> wilsgrant: If you do try it tell me how it turnes out.
[10:01] <atomikulinux> not sure if the bios has recognised em
[10:01] <atomikulinux> I forgot to check
[10:01] <ochosi> dabaR, actually, my sound seems to be broken now. any idea why that could be? (i uninstalled jackd again, /etc/init.d/alsasound status says the driver is loaded)
[10:01] <atomikulinux> Okay cool... fdisk looks like its returned 3 hard drives
[10:01] <devilsadvocate> atomikulinux, go "sudo fdis -l" as fnf and dabaR say
[10:01] <Vieng> I can not sign in
[10:01] <Jordan_U> can syslinux be installed on a normall USB hard drive?
[10:01] <dabaR> ochosi: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa-utils restart
[10:02] <nilson> enyc, are you still around bud
[10:02] <Vieng> it says my account is disconnected
[10:02] <atomikulinux> Yes
[10:02] <atomikulinux> Its returned 3 hard drives
[10:02] <trench-> didn't pay the bill? :)
[10:02] <dabaR> Vieng: you misconfigured it, or forgot yuor password, go check account settings with ctrl+a
[10:02] <trench-> jk
[10:02] <dabaR> atomikulinux: ya, that command is way easier that the listing of devices
[10:02] <Tido|laptop> in gnome, how do I sudo?
[10:03] <dabaR> Tido|laptop: gksudo
[10:03] <atomikulinux> Hmmmmm
[10:03] <ochosi> dabaR. did the restart, still: all the apps seem to be fine and playing, but nothing comes out of my speakers...
[10:03] <Tido|laptop> thanks dabaR
[10:03] <dabaR> ochosi: use alsamixer or the sound applet in system>prefs to see if anything is muted
[10:03] <atomikulinux> Now then... I need to format the new hard drive, and copy over everything thats on this hard dirve
[10:04] <dabaR> atomikulinux: edgy?
[10:04] <VigoFusion> Vieng: Or try logging into Yahoo! to make certain the screen name and password are correct, the China/Microsoft migration/merge goofed alotta stuff up in Yahoo.
[10:04] <atomikulinux> Yup
[10:04] <wilsgrant> Jordan_U: Couldn't I just do a regular ubuntu install on the drive then set it up to use the syslinux bootloader to make switching it between comps easy?
[10:04] <atomikulinux> it appears that this hard drive has 3 partitions... Linux,extended and swap
[10:04] <ochosi> dabaR, oh man... sorry bout that. you were right. for some stupid reason my master was muted... really sorry to keep you busy with this kid's stuff..
[10:04] <atomikulinux> I wanna put the swap drive on this other 1GB I have
[10:04] <Vieng> uhm it works thankssss
[10:04] <atomikulinux> I think GRUB is on the 1GB as well
[10:04] <enyc> nilson: yes
[10:04] <dabaR> atomikulinux: there is a command line utility, called cfdisk that formats partitions, use caution when playing with formatting, needless to say almost
[10:04] <enyc> nilson: not got out of bed yet ;-)
[10:05] <dabaR> Vieng: $20
[10:05] <atomikulinux> okay
[10:05] <VigoFusion> :-!
[10:05] <atomikulinux> lemme get this hard drive formatted
[10:05] <nilson> enyc: okay... I edited /etc/nsd/zones.conf and there is a commant which states zonefile paths are relative to ${zonesdir}
[10:05] <dabaR> ochosi: no worries:)
[10:05] <nilson> Nothing I have found yet tells me what zonesdir is
[10:05] <enyc> nilson: I thin that in /etc/nsd/primary/
[10:06] <Jordan_U> wilsgrant: It isn't the syslinux bootloader that makes everything get configured automatically at boot it is all of the various scripts on the liveCD, there is a way to use those same scripts on a regular install but I don't know how or how hard it would be.
[10:06] <fnf> atomikulinux: cfdisk is reliable and easy to use.
[10:06] <dabaR> ochosi: all these issues that I can solve are not much more substantial than that anyhow, and I choose to be here on my own will...
[10:06] <dabaR> nilson: did you try google and the official nsd docs?
[10:06] <atomikulinux> Okay so what do I do? I run cfdisk and it says "can not open hard drive"
[10:07] <atomikulinux> "FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive"
[10:07] <fnf> atomikulinux: OTOH, you may run gparted, but that doesn't guaranteed your boot sectors will not be messed up.
[10:07] <nilson> dabaR, yeah-they have practically none
[10:07] <atomikulinux> hmm
[10:07] <dabaR> atomikulinux: hmm, same here:-./ <--a confused cindy crawford
[10:07] <wilsgrant> Jordan_U: Alright thanks im going to do a regular install and look into those scripts on the forums when I need em. Thanks for the help!
[10:07] <atomikulinux> lol
[10:07] <atomikulinux> Well then
[10:07] <fnf> atomikulinux: Do you see other device listed in /dev ? Other than hda, do you see hdb, hdc... ?
[10:07] <atomikulinux> perhaps theres a parition program with a nice little GUI
[10:07] <ochosi> dabaR, i see :) so have a nice day man!
[10:07] <atomikulinux> that can easily do what I want it to do :D
[10:08] <atomikulinux> lol
[10:08] <dabaR> Sat Nov 25 03:08:25 CST 2006
[10:08] <fnf> atomikulinux: then use gparted.
[10:08] <atomikulinux> perhaps I should paste the results of fdisk in a diffrent channel... then you'll understand better what im hoping to do
[10:08] <slicky> oooh. im in love with berly!!
[10:08] <djperegrine> I know!
[10:08] <dabaR> ochosi: thanks, you too
[10:08] <VigoFusion> Yes, gparted should work
[10:08] <atomikulinux> Hmm
[10:08] <trench-> no humping of the monitor please
[10:08] <atomikulinux> How do I run it
[10:09] <djperegrine> beryl is the shit fo sure
[10:09] <dabaR> atomikulinux: there is a pastebin website, a really cool concept, see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:09] <elok_> hai
[10:09] <atomikulinux> yeah
[10:09] <fnf> atomikulinux: Alt+F2 then type into the textbox: 'gksudo gparted'
[10:09] <VigoFusion> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[10:09] <enyc> nilson: om on a releavnt system but I cant see it mention.ed .but I _know_ they co in /etc/nsd/primary/
[10:09] <dabaR> VigoFusion: there is a package for ubuntu...
[10:09] <atomikulinux> (gksudo:5141): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine",
[10:09] <atomikulinux> sudo: gparted: command not found
[10:10] <dabaR> !gparted
[10:10] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:10] <nilson> enyc Im workin on it I'll let you know if I get it working :P
[10:10] <fnf> atomikulinux: Ouch. Are you running ubuntu desktop ? That only exists in the desktop version, I forgot to mention.
[10:10] <Manny> hi
[10:10] <dabaR> just install it
[10:10] <nilson> enyc I think I get that part to work
[10:10] <dabaR> hi Manny
[10:10] <trench-> thanks for the livecd unfo ubotu
[10:10] <nilson> but now it wont write the db; probably a permissions issue since I had to `touch` the file to make it
[10:11] <trench-> info even
[10:11] <darko3d> if i downloaded like a 100 program, doesn't anybody know how cn i compile ubuntu with all of these programs for future use
[10:11] <Manny> I'm trying to debug an xorg crash involving FontWakeup. But I can't find xserver-xorg-dbg, which used to be distributed in 6.8.X dayds
[10:11] <dabaR> !ubotu > trench-
[10:11] <atomikulinux> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33876/
[10:11] <trench-> :)
[10:11] <trench-> pimp
[10:11] <dabaR> darko3d: no, we do not know. There is work being done to allow for something similar in the future.
[10:12] <dabaR> give credit where it is due;)
[10:13] <atomikulinux> so then...
[10:13] <dabaR> atomikulinux: I can't think that much now
[10:13] <nilson> enyc, hey bud could you tell me what your permissions are on /var/lib/nsd ?
[10:13] <djperegrine> I heard beryl is going to be inculded in the new ubuntu version or something
[10:13] <trench-> i have to give ubuntu it's props...it's been hassle-free so far :)
[10:13] <djperegrine> is that true
[10:13] <atomikulinux> ive got gparted run
[10:14] <Jordan_U> wilsgrant: If you can't find out how to use the liveCD's scripts this command should reconfigure most things but will require some interaction: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a -phigh
[10:14] <dabaR> djperegrine: that depends on the stability, but ya, I heard some similar talk as well.
[10:14] <trench-> 6.10 is very nice indeed
[10:14] <djperegrine> I think that would help ubuntus cause
[10:14] <atomikulinux> okay then.. im deleting all the paritions on the spare hard drive now...
[10:14] <atomikulinux> Done.
[10:14] <djperegrine> I mean beryl is so damn awesome!
[10:15] <dabaR> djperegrine: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=beryl+included+ubuntu+default&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[10:15] <DrakeMastil> FunnyLookinHat: thanks again... 32bit installed WINE installed and things are going much better
[10:15] <trench-> djperegrine, try it with 16x AA :)
[10:15] <djperegrine> to bad the nvidia beta drivers didn't work for me
[10:15] <VigoFusion> ubuntu has accomplished what Knoppix did such a fine job on.
[10:15] <djperegrine> :O ?
[10:15] <DrakeMastil> FunnyLookinHat: even went ahead and used the source and compiled on my own to get used to doing things the hard way to learn
[10:16] <dabaR> djperegrine: you can see some related articles there.
[10:16] <Jordan_U> trench-: 16x AA ?
[10:16] <trench-> i got kubuntu and wireless configured in under 30 minutes...can't do that on my gentoo :)
[10:16] <djperegrine> I got all this PIXELMAP couldn't blit or something
[10:16] <djperegrine> and it lagged like hell
[10:16] <trench-> 16x AntiAliasing/Anisthropic
[10:16] <jarek_> hello
[10:16] <Jordan_U> trench-: ahh
[10:16] <djperegrine> the beta of beryl + the ALGLX that came with edgy works damn nice so I am not complianin
[10:16] <trench-> make sure to restart beryl when you make the change
[10:16] <djperegrine> oh I did
[10:17] <trench-> as far as enabling AA
[10:17] <djperegrine> I will wait till its not beta anymore
[10:17] <Imsdle> stuffed if i know1
[10:17] <Imsdle> !
[10:17] <trench-> if your card's capable, it's a real eye-candy...and a resource hog at the same time :)
[10:17] <The> can anyone help me get my epson stylux cx7800 all in one printer/scanners scanners working??
[10:17] <djperegrine> its not really
[10:17] <trench-> i see
[10:18] <djperegrine> the most it uses for me is 10%
[10:18] <Tido|laptop> how do I move a file in file manager when it requires sudo or root to do it?
[10:18] <trench-> what version?
[10:18] <djperegrine> the svn version
[10:19] <djperegrine> and like I said the ALGLX that came with edgy
[10:19] <DrakeMastil> lol ok I just installed WINE on edgy and now what do i do?
[10:19] <Imsdle> mount: hdb2 already mounted or /media/ohd2 busy
[10:19] <Imsdle> grrr i have done a restart..
[10:19] <djperegrine> GLX used like 30%
[10:19] <trench-> well, if you don't have much transparencies, fancy animations, auto detecting refresh, it should use little
[10:19] <dabaR> Tido|laptop: you either run the nautilus file manager with gksudo, or use a terminal. Make sure you close the nautilus after moving the files so someone does not make a mistake further down the road.
[10:19] <Jordan_U> The: System -> administration -> Printing and Applications -> graphics -> Xane image scanner
[10:19] <The> is there still support of automatix ?? in ubuntu edgy?
[10:19] <Tido|laptop> thanks dabaR
[10:19] <travkin> Automatix sux. apt-get rulez.
[10:19] <travkin> :[
[10:19] <djperegrine> GLX was a little bit smoother then ALGLX but it was using alot of CPU
[10:19] <The> I need help ...
[10:20] <The> I am not the best at this and am trying to switch.
[10:20] <dabaR> The: automatix is not recommended on this channel, they recommend easyubuntu, I heard there is automatix2 for edgy, use google for more info
[10:20] <trench-> djperegrine, with capable cards, that's hardware rendered
[10:20] <DrakeMastil> I just installed WINE on edgy and now what do i do to use it?
[10:20] <dabaR> The: did you get the printer to work, and need to get the scanner to work, or nothing works yet?
[10:20] <djperegrine> run some exe's :D
[10:20] <Jordan_U> DrakeMastil: Double click an exe.
[10:20] <fam> hi how can i change the root mode so i can work in root mode
[10:20] <The> dabaF: yes
[10:20] <dabaR> DrakeMastil: wine something.exe
[10:21] <dabaR> !root > fam
[10:21] <djperegrine> man if I can get directX + .net 2.0 working on wine I am set for life
[10:21] <DrakeMastil> dabaR: thanks
[10:21] <dabaR> or something
[10:21] <trench-> hehehe
[10:21] <Imsdle> I'm totally lost.. i have been able to mouint the drive.. and it shows as a 10mb hard disk which is right.. but I can only find these files
[10:21] <Imsdle> config-2.6.15-1.2054_FC5      lost+found
[10:21] <Imsdle> grub                          System.map-2.6.15-1.2054_FC5
[10:21] <Imsdle> initrd-2.6.15-1.2054_FC5.img  vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.2054_FC5
[10:22] <Imsdle> it is my old fedore core drive and i can't find /home/ anywhere
[10:22] <The> does anyone know how to get a scanner to work ?
[10:22] <The> mine doesn't seem to be working
[10:22] <Jordan_U>  Applications -> graphics -> Xane image scanner didn't work? Did it give an error?
[10:23] <The> ya
[10:23] <The> i mean
[10:23] <The> no
[10:23] <The> it said that it doesnt find a scanner
[10:23] <dabaR> Imsdle: the home was a different partition?
[10:23] <The> it say's "No divices avalible"
[10:23] <dabaR> Imsdle: try sudo fdisk -l and see whether you see some other partitions on the same drive, or something.
[10:24] <Imsdle> i think so but stuffed if i can mount them.. got a similar response from my wife tonight
[10:24] <Slart> ngngaaa.... I'm starting to dislike wine about now.. stupid software.. or stupid user.. not sure which yet...
[10:25] <The> I found this guy no the ubuntu forums who got his printer/scanner to work, but I have no Idea how he did it
[10:25] <The> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286164&highlight=epson+stylus+cx7800
[10:26] <atomikulinux> uhhh how do I unmount?
[10:26] <TekMasterMicah> hey ladiez
[10:27] <trench-> umount?
[10:27] <VigoFusion> the:  which version?
[10:27] <dabaR> Imsdle: you can mount them, as soon as you know about them, did you run the fdisk command?
[10:27] <triablo> hello, can anybody tell me how can I have write access to my second partitionn ?
[10:27] <thenetduck> I really need help getting my scanne working does anyone have any experience with getting scanners to work?
[10:28] <dabaR> atomikulinux: umount <deviceNode or mount dir>
[10:28] <dabaR> triablo: what file system does it have?
[10:28] <trench-> dabaR, got a q...running kubuntu here...how exactly can i get that superuser feature i got used to with kde?
[10:28] <triablo> dabaR: it's ext3
[10:28] <Imsdle> i can see it.. /dev/hdb2              14        4865    38973690   8e  Linux LVM... but i can't mount it
[10:28] <dabaR> triablo: rephrase
[10:28] <dabaR> triablo: did you try chmod?
[10:29] <dabaR> triablo: not you, trench- rephrase
[10:29] <mamzers555> hello, how can o lower the volume of oss-sound? i have a game that uses oss and it is at full volume, how can i change this?
[10:29] <dabaR> Imsdle: why not?
[10:29] <triablo> dabaR: no, how to chmod
[10:29] <triablo> ?
[10:29] <trench-> dabaR...File Manager SuperUser Mode
[10:29] <Imsdle> mount: /dev/hdb2 already mounted or /media/mels_backup busy
[10:29] <dabaR> triablo: sudo chmod 777 /path
[10:29] <trench-> isn't that part of kde?
[10:30] <VigoFusion> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesDesktops <<<<scanners and stuff listed there....
[10:30] <johnnythawte> trench-: can't you just Alt+F2 and choose run as different user ?
[10:30] <dabaR> Imsdle: run mount|grep hdb2 in a terminal
[10:30] <triablo> dabaR: ok, I'm going to try it
[10:30] <dabaR> triablo: you do that
[10:30] <dabaR> trench-: I did not understand your question, so rephrase
[10:30] <trench-> superuser - root priviledge in kde
[10:31] <Imsdle> yup... try to mount again?
[10:31] <trench-> not in terminal
[10:31] <dabaR> trench-: you want to run a kde gui app as superuser?
[10:31] <trench-> yes
[10:31] <trench-> :)
[10:31] <dabaR> Imsdle: it shows what exactly?
[10:31] <dabaR> kdesu is the gksudo of kde
[10:31] <triablo> dabaR: thank you, now everything is fine :)
[10:31] <Imsdle> what shows what..  i ran that command and it just accpeted it
[10:31] <dabaR> oh, no output? hmhm...
[10:32] <Imsdle> nope
[10:32] <dabaR> Imsdle: what command do you use to mount? show me the output of sudo fdisk -l on a pastebin too.
[10:32] <travkin> ok
[10:32] <travkin> ;[
[10:32] <dabaR> trench-: does that work?
[10:32] <thenetduck> would someone be able to help me install the sane-backend and sane-backend-extras on my computer... I don't know how... :(
[10:32] <Imsdle>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:32] <Imsdle> /dev/hda1   *           1        4889    39270861   83  Linux
[10:32] <Imsdle> /dev/hda2            4890        4982      747022+   5  Extended
[10:32] <Imsdle> /dev/hda5            4890        4982      746991   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[10:32] <Imsdle> Disk /dev/hdb: 40.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes
[10:32] <Imsdle> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders
[10:32] <Imsdle> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[10:32] <Imsdle>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:32] <Imsdle> /dev/hdb1   *           1          13      104391   83  Linux
[10:33] <Imsdle> /dev/hdb2              14        4865    38973690   8e  Linux LVM
[10:33] <trench-> dabaR, actually no...
[10:33] <dabaR> thenetduck: sudo aptitude sane-backend sane-backend-extras, also there is synaptic
[10:33] <Imsdle> root@office:/media # mount /dev/hdb2 /media/mels_backup
[10:33] <Imsdle> mount: /dev/hdb2 already mounted or /media/mels_backup busy
[10:33] <dabaR> !synaptic > thenetduck
[10:33] <trench-> also missing other kde stuff...like kcontrol
[10:33] <d03boy> i installed ndiswrapper and it seems like it should be working fine. when I do iwlist eth1 scan it immediately returns "No scan results"
[10:33] <trench-> won't load even envoking from terminal
[10:33] <dabaR> trench-: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop?
[10:34] <atomikulinux> So then... I have this faulty hard drive with two partitions on it. linux and swap. Ive created a swap partition on a different 1GB hard drive. I want to move the linux partition over from this faulty hard drive to a different 4GB hard drive. How can I do this and what will I need to reconfigure?
[10:34] <trench-> dabaR...let me try...thanks
[10:34] <dabaR> !pastebin > Imsdle
[10:34] <dabaR> Imsdle: ls /media/mels_backups, does it show any files?
[10:35] <trench-> no packages updated or installed
[10:35] <dabaR> atomikulinux: you will need to reinstall, I believe, so just back up important files.
[10:35] <atomikulinux> Crap.
[10:35] <trench-> kubuntu edgy 6.10 here
[10:35] <atomikulinux> Nooooooo
[10:35] <Imsdle> nope
[10:35] <dabaR> trench-: did you try #kubuntu?
[10:36] <dabaR> Imsdle: I am gonna look for a linux lvm file system.
[10:36] <atomikulinux> Seriously cant be bothered to reinstall... hmmm
[10:36] <trench-> i'll try there...thanks dabaR...it's really no biggie for me...just out of curiosity...thanks for your help
[10:36] <erUSUL> atomikulinux: you can use tar or cp and you need to update /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst if necessary
[10:36] <atomikulinux> Uhh
[10:36] <Imsdle> thanks alot dabaR.....
[10:36] <atomikulinux> Thanks erUSUL
[10:36] <atomikulinux> Now lemme just take a minute to understand what you just said :)
[10:36] <atomikulinux> lol
[10:37] <atomikulinux> Okay let me start by making a linux partition on this new hard drive...
[10:38] <erUSUL> atomikulinux: example (cd /source/directory && tar cf - . ) | (cd /dest/directory && tar xvfp -) to copy from one partition to another (obviusly you have to do it from a live cd and mount both partitions to source and dest dirs
[10:39] <atomikulinux> erUSUL: Okay cool
[10:39] <atomikulinux> BRB a sec, then we'll talk business (lol)
[10:41] <dabaR> erUSUL: do you have an idea why a linux LVM partition says device already mounted or mount point busy when mount /dev/hdb1 /media/mels_backup is ran, and mount |grep hdb1 shows no output, and there are no files in /media/mels_backup?
[10:42] <atomikulinux> Okay so I know how to copy the partitions over. Good. Now I need to sort out how to configure ubuntu to use a different parition as swap.
[10:42] <atomikulinux> And possibly reconfigure/update GRUB.
[10:42] <atomikulinux> (BRB again)
[10:42] <roryy> dabaR: is there p'raps a or other program with current working directory /media/mels_backup? try perhaps 'lsof /media/mels_backup' to try to find out
[10:43] <dabaR> well, the person left, it seems.
[10:43] <dabaR> thanks
[10:43] <d03boy> anyone know how to turn the radio on for a bcm43xx? that seems to be my predicament
[10:43] <erUSUL> dabaR: i do no use lvm myself but i have seen this errors before they went away when i disabled lvm and evms at startup but if you actually use lvm you can't do that :(
[10:43] <dabaR> I think 3:45 am is prime time to go to sleep...
[10:46] <darko3d> i installed beryl, and when i restarted the login screen doesn't show up, the website says that i should backup etc/X11/xorg.conf.old), how do i do that?
[10:47] <erUSUL> darko3d: with cp ;) 'cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old' before you change it to fit beryl of course
[10:47] <atomikulinux> Well then
[10:47] <atomikulinux> I'm gonna reboot in a se
[10:47] <atomikulinux> to the livecd
[10:48] <darko3d> no i backed it up, but now i can login to ubuntu, i'm getting a blank page, how do i restore it
[10:50] <SilentDis> hello :)
[10:50] <atomikulinux> So its... mount oldhd /source/   mount newhd /dest/  then cd /source/ && tar cf - . then cd /dest/ && tar xvfp -
[10:50] <atomikulinux> Yes?
[10:51] <atomikulinux> Well lemme just reboot to the livecd... someone paste that back to me when I get back on IRC
[10:51] <darko3d> no i backed it up, but now i cant login to ubuntu, i'm getting a blank page, how do i restore it
[10:51] <Imsdle> stuffed if i know.. i must of stuffed my paritions or something... now when i restart.. it starts the fedora core hard disk and not the new ubuntu!
[10:51] <darko3d> what's the command
[10:52] <Imsdle> i was just trying to mount the slave! grrrrrrrrrr dear I say.. this is easier in windows!
[10:52] <SilentDis> Imsdle:  nothing is 'easier', per se, in windows, simply more known to you ;)
[10:53] <Imsdle> thank you for my this indegression SilentDis... it will not happen again.. i am mearly a grasshopper in the world of open source
[10:54] <SilentDis> Imsdle:  rofl.  it was VERY toungue-in-cheek ;)
[10:54] <d03boy> ok, i have a Fn+F2 button to turn ona nd off my wireless radio. But kubuntu seems to be intercepting these signals so the radio wont turn on. How can I turn it on then?
[10:54] <darko3d> i backed up etc/X11/xorg.conf to etc/X11/xorg.conf.old, how do i restore it???
[10:55] <bokey> d03boy, sudo network-admin
[10:56] <ranman> hello?
[10:56] <TuTUx> darko3d, sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:56] <TuTUx> darko3d, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:57] <TuTUx> darko3d, sorry, forget "cp"...
[10:57] <djperegrine> is ther ea really easy way to play wmv files in firefox?
[10:57] <SilentDis> darko3d:  sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old /etc/X11/xorg.conf (do a mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old2 first, just in case)
[10:57] <highneko> darko3d: #bash is good for questions like this, they're very helpful.
[10:57] <FirstStrike> djperegrine: install the mplayer plugin
[10:57] <zipola> Good morning, I'm using edgy. After installing xmms-sid xmms won't play sids. Is the package broken or am I just forgetting something?
[10:58] <ranman> Can someone help me out with a graphics problem? I am a complete linux noob...
[10:58] <SilentDis> !ask | ranman
[10:58] <ubotu> ranman: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:58] <travkin> zipola, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xmms xmms-sid /
[10:58] <travkin> ?
[10:59] <cowboy1024> what is the irssi command to accept a dcc offer?
[10:59] <highneko> cowboy1024: Maybe "partall".
[10:59] <cowboy1024> highneko: ha ha
[10:59] <zipola> travkin: No luck. It still won't.
[11:00] <nilson> enyc, I got it working
[11:00] <ranman> Ok... well i have a nvidia 6800 gtx card with 256mb of mem, I just want to be able to play WOW on wine and view my stuff in 1280 by 1024 or whatever the highest resolution of my card is, i tried installing the nvidia drivers from the apt thing but that did not work out... infact it effed up x so i had to re-install all of ubuntu... anyway i just want to be able to view my stuff in the resolutions it should suppor so i think i need to s
[11:00] <SilentDis> !nvidia | ranman
[11:00] <nilson> enyc, now I'll just have to spend a week unfucking Apache, PHP, setting up MySQL and getting Postfix working :)
[11:00] <ubotu> ranman: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:00] <nilson> YAY!
[11:00] <SilentDis> !cedega | ranman
[11:00] <ubotu> ranman: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:01] <djperegrine> I do have mplayer installed
[11:01] <djperegrine> and the plguin
[11:01] <ranman> i have gotten wow working in wine without cedega before... ubotu i have tried that but the resolutions still did not show up...
[11:01] <SilentDis> ranman:  the first link ubotu shared will help you get your graphics card running properly.  the second is how to get WoW going.
[11:02] <zipola> In apt-get the xmms-sid has the letters iB before it. What does that B mean?
[11:02] <BlackHawk> moin
[11:02] <trench-> doom3 and oblivion :)
[11:02] <ranman> i have tried the first link before, it did not work
[11:02] <slicky> hm.. can i use Cedega without signing up on their homepage?
[11:02] <SilentDis> ranman:  what, exactly, happened?
[11:02] <ranman> and i know how to use cedega and wine and I can get it to play wow...
[11:02] <trench-> ranman, you just need your nvidia-drivers installed properly
[11:03] <ranman> I had them installed and it froze on starting X
[11:03] <n30n> !multiverse
[11:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:03] <SilentDis> ranman:  I'm running a Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS, and the binary blob drivers.  i followed the instructions on that website, and it works like a charm.  it's VERY easy to overlook a step here and there, though :)
[11:04] <Morrissey> I have a kind of off topic question. In my laptop I have 2x256mb RAM, If I buy a 1gb RAM, can I use one slot for the 1gb ram, and the other for a 256 mb ram chip?
[11:04] <zipola> Does someone else have the xmms-sid working under edgy?
[11:04] <SilentDis> Morrissey:  if it's a more 'modern' mobo in the laptop, sure.  really depends on the laptop though.
[11:04] <Morrissey> SilentDis, ok, how would I know? Its about 1.5 years old
[11:04] <ranman> SilentDis: i have gotten this working before, i know how to do it... I didn't skip a step... omfg i left the xorg.conf unrestored nvm...
[11:05] <rlobster> Hi, I'm having a problem with my panels, they become unresponsive when I leave the computer for about 15 mins or so. I can still alt-tab between open windows but can't get the panels to respond to my mouse clicks
[11:05] <rlobster> anyone have any idea what the problem is?
[11:05] <SilentDis> ranman:  i kept missing the restricted modules and pulling my hair out... lol
[11:05] <ranman> rlobster: do you have gdesklets? are you using gnome?
[11:05] <SilentDis> Morrissey:  brand/model?  usually, you can grab a PDF of system specs from the manufactuerers website
[11:05] <trench-> Morrissey, that's a hardware limitation...you need to know the capability of your laptop as far as compatible upgrades
[11:06] <Imsdle> help!.... mount: /dev/hdb2 already mounted or /media/mels_backup busy
[11:06] <trench-> most modern laptops can handle a gig stick of ram no prob
[11:06] <sod75> Morrissey: look up the tech docs on the vendor's website
[11:07] <trench-> just need to know max ram it can handle
[11:07] <djperegrine> um there is no more w32codecs package?
[11:07] <trench-> don't want to buy something you can't really use
[11:07] <djperegrine> where can I get the codecs?
[11:07] <Morrissey> SilentDis, trench- sod75: Ok, I have the datasheet up, what to look for? It says I have the 2700 DDR 333mhz ram. and 2x256 of them
[11:07] <SilentDis> !w32codecs
[11:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:07] <trench-> Morrissey, max ram allowed
[11:07] <Morrissey> SilentDis, trench- sod75: And it support 2gb of ram :)
[11:08] <trench-> there you go
[11:08] <trench-> so answer to your q is yes
[11:08] <Morrissey> trench-, ok, thanks .. so it is ok to have 1x1gb and 1x256? :)
[11:08] <trench-> definitely
[11:08] <Morrissey> thanks alot trench- ... thix beryl's kinda sucking up my ram (Combined with KDE ;P)
[11:08] <trench-> no doubt
[11:08] <SilentDis> Morrissey:  usually, there's just 1 slot you can stick ram into for a laptop (some have 2, again depends on hardware), and since it supports DDR, single stick configs will be fine.  just make sure you get compatible ram (again, check that datasheet) and you should be fine
[11:09] <Morrissey> SilentDis, thanks! Ill order one today
[11:09] <infidel> anyone know where "System>>Preferences>>Keyboard Shortcut" saves the mapped txt file?
[11:09] <trench-> usually there will be two...rarely do they provide just one slot
[11:09] <Marlun> I got ubuntu installed on Virtual PC and when installing I got to choose some resolutions, but now when I've logged into Ubuntu All I've got to choose from is 800x600 and 1024x768, not 1400x900 which I did select during installation.
[11:09] <trench-> sometimes the other slot will be hidden under the keyboard, depends on laptop maker
[11:09] <SilentDis> trench-:  my laptop is ANCIENT.  it has but one spot.  really old Toshiba Satellite 2535CDS.  it's been religated to a thin client for that reason ;)
[11:10] <trench-> lol SilentDis
[11:10] <trench-> i feel your pain
[11:10] <rlobster> hi, I'm having a problem with my gnome panel, it becomes unresponsive after I leave my computer idle for about 15 mins. Any idea what the problem is?
[11:10] <trench-> "most modern laptops" (quoting self)
[11:11] <ranman> r lobster are you using gnome? and do you have gdesklets on?