[09:45] <guisolo> that's where the fun started
[09:45] <corevette> what does this error mean from apache:
[09:45] <corevette> Fatal error: Call to undefined function get_header() in /var/www/index.php on line 2
[09:46] <Coudy> hi all, how to install ubuntu on Sony Vaio PCG-F801 ?
[09:46] <_james> how can i view flash video on my firefox?
[09:46] <guisolo> corevette in your php file you are making a call to a function it can't find
[09:46] <guisolo> corevette not apache
[09:46] <unop> _james,  have you installed flash?
[09:47] <_james> nope, i don't know how im just new to linux
[09:47] <iseng> corevette, its should be get_headers
[09:47] <unop> _james,  welcome :) .. install this package flashplugin-nonfree
[09:47] <iseng> you can see manual for that function here: http://id.php.net/manual/en/function.get-headers.php
[09:47] <_james> unop: ok i'll try
[09:50] <Coudy>   hi all , I have old laptot Sony Vaio PCG-F801 with AMD K6-3 533Mhz, 256MB Ram,
[09:50] <Coudy> I have problem with installation of ubuntu, I tried alternate and desktop, boot parameters noapic pnpbios=off acpi=off, etc..
[09:50] <Coudy> "debootstrap warning failure to run chroot /target dpkg" , durring copying files to hdd
[09:50] <Coudy> cd is good, because cd check work ok,
[09:50] <Coudy> I tried knoppix 5.1.1, with some parameters it boot to kde, but it freez during installation
[09:50] <Coudy> memtest work 17 hours ok
[09:52] <marcus> hi
[09:54] <crazy_penguin> Hello to everyone!
[09:55] <gary> Your crazy crazy_penguin
[09:57] <_james> how can i install soundcard?
[09:58] <Myrtti> shutdown the computer, take of the covers of your computer, take the card, insert it into an expansion slot, screw it tight, close the covers
[09:58] <livingdaylight> what command is there for seeing the whole of a hard drive apart from df -h ?
[09:58] <Fracture> is there any way to change the command line completion to work how it did in dapper.. ie. when I use jar (java archiver) like this "jar xf /media/file<tab>" when /media/filename.zip exists, it doesn't complete  it.. it only seems to work with certain file extensions ?
[09:59] <livingdaylight> df -h only shows me the current os i am in. I want to see the whole hard disc
[10:00] <unop> Fracture,  are you sure that another file sharing a common "/media/file" doesnt exist? something named "/media/file_count" for e.g ?
[10:01] <Fracture> unop: yes..
[10:01] <Fracture> unop: this happens in other cases too
[10:01] <unop> livingdaylight,  sudo fdisk -l
[10:01] <unop> Fracture,  does it work in most other cases?
[10:01] <livingdaylight> unop, thx
[10:02] <e> hello ubuntu
[10:02] <e> i love you
[10:02] <Fracture> unop: yes, it works where the extension is a more common extension, supported by the program
[10:02] <Fracture> i.e. it works for JAR files in this case
[10:03] <livingdaylight> can someone remove this albeit harmless troll, e who is annoying me
[10:03] <stinger_au> whats the command to pick video card type in ubuntu ?
[10:03] <stinger_au> i forgot what it is
[10:04] <unop> Fracture,  hmm, is your shell (echo $SHELL) bash or dash?
[10:04] <unop> stinger_au,  lspci
[10:04] <stinger_au> narr thats not it i know about that
[10:04] <Fracture> unop: /bin/bash
[10:04] <unop> livingdaylight,  /ignore him
[10:04] <Fracture> unop: I had problems with dash for some scripts.. so i changed the default to bash
[10:05] <unop> stinger_au,  hmm, maybe one of glxinfo, hwinfo, lshw
[10:05] <unop> Fracture,  how very odd?  does it autocomplete on the same file if you use somethig other than jar .. say ls for e.g?
[10:06] <klimraamkosie> vi is a pain in the ass! haha, got everything to work now.
[10:06] <Fracture> unop: yeah
[10:06] <Fracture> unop: touch a.zip; jar a<tab> does nothing
[10:07] <Fracture> unop: touch a.zip; ls a<tab> completes it
[10:08] <Fafhrd_> hi all
[10:08] <livingdaylight> unop, i have thw other partitions on my hard drive which i'd like to erase and add to this os, can i do that; i need the space
[10:09] <Fafhrd_> just noticed that the 2.6.17-11-generic updates fail with unresolvable dependencies... anyone seen that too?
[10:09] <unop> Fracture, well, all i can think is it might be one of the environmental variables (set) or shell options (shopt) in your shell .. i cant be sure what it is
[10:09] <mackinac> Fafhrd_, yes lots of ppl
[10:09] <Fafhrd_> k
[10:09] <loca|host> anyone can help me ? my CPU Fan wont stop with Ubuntu, it does with Windows ;(
[10:10] <Fafhrd_> so i'm not alone :-)
[10:10] <Fafhrd_> mackinac, there a fix already? couldnt find anything on the net so far...
[10:11] <mackinac> Fafhrd_, sorry, no idea
[10:11] <unop> livingdaylight,  sure you can do that -- if you still have the live CD you should be able to boot into it and resize/consolidate partitions
[10:11] <Fafhrd_> k, so i guess we have to have to wait
[10:11] <Yancho> guys anyone know how i can install "deb and deb-src" on ubuntu pls ?
[10:11] <unop> livingdaylight,  or if you prefer to use these partitions without the resizing, you will need to format these partition and add entries for them in /etc/fstab
[10:11] <Fafhrd_> thanx mackinac, c'yall round
[10:12] <unop> Yancho,  what do you mean exactly?
[10:12] <Yancho> unop want to do this : http://cartoweb.org/cwiki/DebianPackages
[10:13] <linux1> unop thanks all sorted now
[10:13] <unop> Yancho,  the instructions are there on the page .. arent you reading it? :)
[10:13] <Yancho> unikon when i did "deb" it told me command not found
[10:14] <Yancho> -bash: deb: command not found
[10:14] <Yancho> so now i need to install something to be able to use "deb" .. btw unop not unikon :)
[10:14] <cherva> i have a little problem with iptables and bittornado. On http://ubuntuguide.org/ says how to install bittornado ( sudo aptitude install bittornado bittornado-gui  ) and then how to add it to iptables ( sudo iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 6881:6999 -j ACCEPT ) but when i start bittornado there is yellow light (firewalled) pls help
[10:15] <unop> Yancho,  you arent reading it properly, slow down and make sure you undertand it well -- it says "To add in your /etc/apt/sources.list:" ... :)
[10:15] <Yancho> so i can add to that list manually unop ?
[10:16] <Fracture> unop: thanks, i'll dig around a bit more
[10:16] <unop> Yancho,  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:16] <Yancho> thanks :)
[10:16] <livingdaylight> unop, how about using cfdisk?
[10:17] <Lice> mobprobe tulip to run the module tulip right?
[10:17] <unop> livingdaylight,  i'm not sure what cfdisk does, what does it do?
[10:18] <livingdaylight> unop, i thought it manages partitions
[10:18] <unop> Lice,  if a module by that name exists, yes -- but you need to sudo that command
[10:18] <unop> livingdaylight,  hmm, well, i should imagine it does, after bearing a resemblance to fdisk
[10:18] <cherva> how can i add port 6881 to iptables ? (tcp)
[10:19] <livingdaylight> unop, indeed if i said fdisk would you say i could do it that way?
[10:19] <unop> livingdaylight,  but what i was getting at is -- if you have the liveCD you can use the graphical utility - gparted to manage partitions
[10:20] <unop> livingdaylight, can you !pastebin the output of the following commands for me .. i'll have a better picture of your disks layout and then i can suggest what to do
[10:21] <livingdaylight> unop, cfdisk is pretty graphical and avoids me having to look for my live cd
[10:21] <unop> livingdaylight,  cat /etc/fstab; sudo fdisk-l;
[10:22] <unop> livingdaylight,  errm, well, ok, if you think it'll work -- but i think its safer to use a liveCD to do tasks such as these -- you arent using your disk then
[10:22] <mhiku> how to wget recursive dir as root using sftp in a remote site?
[10:22] <livingdaylight> unop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4830/ the cat bit
[10:23] <livingdaylight> unop, i see. So what is the point of cfdisk/gparted etc if it is not safe to do from ones disc? aguess, they're to be used from a live cd
[10:23] <unop> mhiku,  is this a sftp site?
[10:23] <livingdaylight> unop, i coult even look for or create a gparted live cd
[10:24] <mhiku> do you know?
[10:24] <unop> livingdaylight,  well, it probably possible to use gparted while still using the disk -- but then you risk corruption or the process might fail altogether as you might be using a portion of the disk that gparted needs to use too
[10:25] <livingdaylight> unop, fdisk output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4831/
[10:25] <livingdaylight> unop, right so better to use a live cd
[10:26] <alejandro> does any one know when a ubuntu windows instaler for vista will be available
[10:26] <Yancho> unop u have a clue about these errors pls? : http://www.pastebin.ca/346350
[10:26] <acts_as_idiot> Hello all. I'm a newbie trying to get Xen working on Edgy. I installed 3.0.4 from source and can boot into dom0. Could anyone answer a couple of questions?
[10:26] <Yzer> why is apache2 so confusing on ubuntu?
[10:27] <Yzer> i'm trying to get apache2 working with mod_php and mod_perl
[10:27] <Yzer> and the "out of the box" solution isn't working
[10:27] <Yzer> it doesn't recognize php and perl scripts, and doesn't execute them
[10:27] <felixhummel> OT: What's the opposite of "discarded"?
[10:28] <Yzer> when i try to check if they are loaded by doing <IfModule mod_php5.c> Redirect...</IfModule> it works
[10:28] <unop> livingdaylight,  ok, so now which partitions do you want to use here?
[10:28] <Yzer> but when i try the php/perl script, it doesn't
[10:28] <zoexii> hello, I am having aweful problems with the network manager.  It seems to recognize all all available wireless networks, as well as a wired connection, but as soon as I switch networks, all connections are broken, even if I switch back to a wired connection.  any ideas?
[10:29] <livingdaylight> unop, ok, ubuntu is on sda1 and sda2 (root and /home respectively) sda3 is swap. I've run out of space and need the extra on sda5
[10:30] <livingdaylight> unop, i extended and created another partition coz i thought i would put xp there for a dual boot. But that idea is dead, so i'd like to get the extra space back
[10:30] <acts_as_idiot> Any Xen experts?
[10:30] <unop> Yancho,  I have a feeling that that repository you just added has packages that require odd version numbers (those for debian)
[10:30] <zoexii> can anyone help me troubleshoot network manager?
[10:30] <Yancho> so i better remove it right ? and use the synatic package maanger to download the libraries needed?
[10:31] <unop> Yancho,  well, have you installed any software yet from that repository?
[10:31] <Yancho> no not yet unikon
[10:31] <Yancho> unop
[10:32] <Yzer> i think i'll just waver the out of the box apache solution of ubuntu
[10:32] <Yzer> too much of a mess trying to make things simpler
[10:34] <unop> Yancho,  ok cool,  I think all you need to do is install the map-server packages from this repo and everything else from ubuntu's repo -- comment out this line in sources.list, run apt-get update , install the ubuntu packages like apache, php, postgres etc .. and then add the line back and then install the mapserver packages
[10:34] <Yancho> i already have apache php postgres etc
[10:35] <Yancho> i gott run unop thanks for the help till now but have to run out :(
[10:37] <felixhummel> In VIM, how do I yank to the x clipboard (so I can paste in firefox or wherever)?
[10:38] <unop> livingdaylight,  sorry, what i would do is just format /dev/sda5 and mount it in /etc/fstab .. quite simple :)
[10:38] <nzx> hey, how do i make network manager not use the keyrings? or how do i stop it from prompting me for a password everytime ?
[10:38] <cyphase> R.I.P headphones.. *sad smile*
[10:39] <unop> livingdaylight, which existing partition is running out of space for you?
[10:39] <Alarm> hello . i want to add a basic authentication on my apache server. but somehow it doesnt really work. although i am asked for a user/pass and enter the correct ones, it keeps asking me again and again. i created a password file with htpasswd -c  , under /usr/local/etc/httpd . my document directory is /var/www (doesnt have any index html in it. just files. my apache2.conf file looks like that: http://www.phpriot.com/4939 .read many times the apache
[10:39] <Alarm> tutorial but somehow i didnt manage to fix that  (i am not using .htaccess file, i have put the the basic authentication lines in a <directory> in the config file
[10:40] <livingdaylight> unop, both / and /home
[10:41] <livingdaylight> unop, says here / is 100% and /home 80-90% or so
[10:43] <shinobi2> how much hard disk space is a ubuntu 6.10 default desktop installation?
[10:43] <frogzoo> shinobi2: probly 3 gig maybe?
[10:44] <livingdaylight> unop, i'd have to check disk usage analyser again, but / is 100% !!! which is scary. I dont' know how. And yes, /home/me is nearly full aswell. I've been busy downloading music ^^
[10:44] <shinobi2> ok, i'll give 5gb
[10:44] <unop> livingdaylight,  ha ha :)
[10:45] <livingdaylight> unop, yea, those mb's add up quick :o .... hehe
[10:46] <frogzoo> shinobi2: + separate partition for /home - you'll be glad of it
[10:46] <unop> livingdaylight,  well, what you could do is format and bring in the last partition -- move a few folders like /var and /home/$USER/music over into that partition and then leaving symlinks behind pointing to the new locations
[10:46] <shinobi2> frogzoo: it's for virtual machine for playing. i have 12 gb for ubuntu in dual boot
[10:47] <shinobi2> forgot how much space it was for a minimium install
[10:47] <frogzoo> shinobi2: well 5gig should be plenty for a VM
[10:48] <shinobi2> yeah, i going to put ubuntu 7.0 on vmware when i comes out
[10:48] <shinobi2> i like 6.06, works nice with wifi
[10:48] <shinobi2> frogzoo: 6.10 does not work with wifi, i gaveup
[10:48] <unop> livingdaylight,  you got what i said there/
[10:48] <unop> ?
[10:49] <unop> stunned?
[10:49] <shinobi2> anyone running ubuntu 7 alpha?
[10:49] <shinobi2> i hope the boot up gui screen is nicer
[10:49] <Fuzzy76> Anyone else had their kernels held back recently? there are some dependencies against 2.6.17-11 but it's not to be found
[10:49] <livingdaylight> unop, i heard you, but i'm not familiar and hence not so comfortable with the idea. I hoped / and /home could just absorb the extra space
[10:49] <unop> shinobi2,  ha ha, the part that matters the least :)
[10:50] <shinobi2> =) i know
[10:50] <frogzoo> shinobi2: -> #ubuntu+1 for feisty talk
[10:50] <shinobi2> 6.10 splash screen is crappier that 6.06
[10:50] <livingdaylight> shinobi2, haha the boot up gui is bothering you?
[10:50] <shinobi2> yes =)
[10:51] <frogzoo> /12/12
[10:51] <Balachmar> Hi could someone help me with wpa_supplicant?
[10:51] <shinobi2> ah... there's actually a #ubuntu+1
[10:51] <livingdaylight> there seems to be an endless amounts of #ubuntu channels
[10:52] <visit0r> how come kernel upgrade for edgy today is kept back
[10:52] <shinobi2> i think the O in ubuntu should rotate , like a round table
[10:52] <shinobi2> that will be cool
[10:52] <unop> livingdaylight,  well, it's going to be quite tricky -- you could merge /dev/sda2,3,4 and 5 so that becomes /dev/sda2 (/home) and then resize /dev/hda1(/) so you balance out the space at the beginning .. and then create /dev/sda3 (swap) at the end .. but this is rife with potential disaster but entirely possible
[10:52] <visit0r> linux-image-386: Depends: linux-image-2.6.17-11-386 but it is not installable
[10:52] <unop> s/hda1/sda1/
[10:53] <visit0r> is this a known issue?
[10:53] <kenthomson> Can someone please help me, my computer behaves extremely unresponsively whenever i am browsing the net with firefox
[10:53] <livingdaylight> unop, yea, a minefield of disastrous possibilities
[10:54] <livingdaylight> unop, that's why i've always avoided resizing or playing with partitions once os is installed
[10:54] <unop> livingdaylight,  i prefer the solution #1 .. less possibility of losing data
[10:54] <kenthomson> in the linux world (open-source) is there another web-browser which supports flash-ajax-java that i can use (NOT OPERA)? becuase firefox is really taking up a lot of resources and making my system unresponsive as hell,
[10:54] <lesshaste> whenever I open thunderbird is asks if I want to send an unsent message. However I can't see an unsent message folder. How would I find it?
[10:54] <unop> livingdaylight,  yep, i've never resized a partition (yet)
[10:54] <livingdaylight> unop, sounds beyond me though
[10:54] <kenthomson> or is there something i can do to firefox (config) to allow it to take less CPU cycles and RAM?????
[10:54] <livingdaylight> unop, maybe i should just wait for Feisty and then reinstall fresh
[10:54] <kenthomson> Is anyone even listening? :)
[10:54] <mattycoze> hay does anyone know how to fix OpenGl errors?
[10:55] <unop> livingdaylight,  it's quite simple actually .. but yea, your mileage will vary
[10:55] <kenthomson> Here's a summary if someone is willing to help: Can someone please help me, my computer behaves extremely unresponsively whenever i am browsing the net with firefox:  in the linux world (open-source) is there another web-browser which supports flash-ajax-java that i can use (NOT OPERA)? becuase firefox is really taking up a lot of resources and making my system unresponsive as hell, : or is there something i can do to firefox (config) to allow it to
[10:55] <kenthomson> take less CPU cycles and RAM?????
[10:55] <kenthomson> * Seeker`<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[10:56] <livingdaylight> lol@kenthomson
[10:56] <kenthomson> :)
[10:56] <unop> livingdaylight, well for the timebeing, you could try cleaning up space in / .. remove uneeded packages/locales .. you could format /dev/sda5 and mount it just for the purposes of your musi freeing up space for /home
[10:56] <kenthomson> no one looks like the-helping kind over here :)
[10:56] <tracy> kenthomson,
[10:56] <tracy> look up..
[10:56] <unop> s/musi/music/
[10:56] <kenthomson> look up to where
[10:56] <tracy> firfox tweaks
[10:56] <livingdaylight> unop, that sounds like an idea
[10:56] <tracy> let me see if i have a link
[10:56] <kenthomson> tracy, google search for firefox tweaks?
[10:57] <tracy> i dont have the link but goodle firefox tweaks
[10:57] <kenthomson> IS every open source app purposefully coded to make users weep or is it just me having a bad-day? no wait a bad-ubuntu OS? though i can't think of a way that can happen
[10:57] <kenthomson> tracy, though i was hoping for some more concise-researched advice then GOOGLE-IT!
[10:57] <kenthomson> :)
[10:57] <tracy> i remember a website that said something how too make things on FF different, i changed a few things on mine, but there is something in about:config that you can fix CPU usage stuff
[10:58] <tracy> or wikipedia firefox and look at what the options on about:config are
[10:58] <kenthomson> Anyways has anyone else faced the same problem with FF, and want to offer some advice to me, that app takes a helluva' lot of resources?
[10:58] <tracy> i think thats right
[10:58] <kenthomson> tracy, write
[10:58] <mattycoze> okay heres my problem; keep getting OpenGl errors whenever i run Wine or Google Earth from the terminal, i think it's the reason why both programs don't run very well, especially google earth because it crashes from time to time, anyone able to help?
[10:58] <livingdaylight> unop, how do i clreanup / ? I already removed kde desktop and lots of things i dont need or use
[10:58] <kenthomson> tracy, right or write? anyways whats right? the wikipedia thingy?
[10:59] <kenthomson> mattycoze, never got any problem with google-earth on linux works like a charm, though its evil and closed source :)
[10:59] <unop> livingdaylight,  gimme 2 minutes ;)
[10:59] <mattycoze> ahh, thanks but thats not the answer i'm looking for kenthomson
[10:59] <livingdaylight> unop, no worries
[11:00] <MarcoPau> even thou I'm using alsa, the audio device comes as occupied when playing two files at the same time. what should I check?
[11:00] <tracy> kenthomson, http://www.tweakguides.com/Firefox_1.html
[11:00] <livingdaylight> kenthomson, see. there's lots of helpful people at ubuntu. Ubuntu rulez! ok?
[11:01] <mattycoze> Ubuntu's got good forums
[11:02] <kenthomson> ok let me head there then!
[11:02] <kenthomson> tracy, i got that let me see it too
[11:02] <kenthomson> livingdaylight, mindlessly praising a distro that's simply borrowed stuff from the OS community is not good for anyone :)
[11:03] <mattycoze> has anyone else ever had OpenGL errors on Ubuntu before?
[11:03] <mattycoze> and found a good forum, or how to fix?
[11:03] <livingdaylight> kenthomson, who says i'm mindlessly praising? And who says im just prasing the os. I was referring to the awesome community that makes Ubuntu what it is
[11:03] <tracy> kenthomson, this is the website i was trying to tell you: http://lifehacker.com/software/firefox-2/geek-to-live-top-firefox-2-config-tweaks-209941.php
[11:03] <tracy> knew i had it saved
[11:04] <livingdaylight> kenthomson, i bet you don't use Ubuntu
[11:04] <livingdaylight> kenthomson, be honest, what do you use?
[11:04] <fialar> anyone know when linux-restricted-modules will be available for the new edgy kernel? (2.6.17-50)
[11:04] <tracy> kenthomson, just hit ctrl f and search CPU and you may find what you need
[11:04] <GreyGhost> kenthomson ,i think i've seen u somewhere..
[11:05] <mattycoze> haha kenthompson = troll
[11:05] <livingdaylight> kenthomson, be honest because i can tell if you're lying... You don't even use UBuntu do you?
[11:05] <knoppix> i have s simple problem on my ubuntu server - i need to chown all files and subdirs including hidden files (e.g. .file). I have tries chown -R but this does not include hidden files. can anyone help please?
[11:05] <kenthomson> tracy, ya i read that article long back lets go back to it, thanks!
[11:05] <fialar> knoppix: cd ..; chown -R <the directory>
[11:05] <livingdaylight> kenthomson, but you know the support is great here, so you come with your Firefox questions and dare to diss me
[11:05] <livingdaylight> kenthomson, i'm talking to you
[11:06] <kenthomson> ok i hear you
[11:06] <kenthomson> and i use ubuntu
[11:06] <GreyGhost> kenthomson , were u by any chacnce trying to compile ktoon sometime ago ?
[11:06] <kenthomson> though would let you get over with ranting first
[11:06] <knoppix> tried that but chown -R does not chown any hidden files prefixed with a dot. like the ones you can see with ls -a
[11:06] <veb11> When I try edit my time it says "You are not allowed to edit system conf"
[11:06] <veb11> Any ideas?
[11:07] <kenthomson> GreyGhost, my dear fellow yes! looks like thats steadfastly fixed in your brain, sharp memory! <claps> though i was never successful in doing it, and abandoned all ambitions of compiling anything in the future
[11:07] <mattycoze> need help, openGL errors on Ubuntu
[11:07] <kenthomson> mattycoze, i don't think that was courteus
[11:07] <GreyGhost> kenthomson ,hehe ...i remember stuff osmetimes ;) i'll tell u if i ever manage to compile it myself though..
[11:07] <mattycoze> kenthomson only poking fun
[11:08] <unop> livingdaylight,  sorry, where were we? cleaning up right?
[11:08] <kenthomson> GreyGhost, that would be an angelic deed, indeed! :)
[11:08] <GreyGhost> livingdaylight ,isnt he free (as in free to have free beer ) to use any OS he likes?
[11:08] <livingdaylight> unop, yes
[11:08] <livingdaylight> yes
[11:08] <cow_2001> is there a way to upgrade to edgy through the command line and not by editing /etc/apt/sources...?
[11:08] <livingdaylight> GreyGhost, sure he is, but i wasn't feeling his love for ubuntu and calling my appreciateion of ubuntu mindless
[11:09] <livingdaylight> unop, cleaning up /
[11:09] <MarcoPau> is there any psaux for ubuntu?
[11:09] <unop> livingdaylight,  firstly .. install the localepurge package -- it can free up some space by deleting files for other languages/locales you dont use
[11:09] <GreyGhost> livingdaylight , oh well... missed that part ...
[11:10] <kenthomson> MarcoPau, ps -aux works for all linux distros
[11:10] <livingdaylight> unop, cool, never heard about that package. sudo apt-get install localpurge ?
[11:10] <unop> yep :)
[11:11] <livingdaylight> unop, what is the full name exactluy? localpurge is not recognized as package. I could check synaptic ...wait
[11:11] <MarcoPau> kelsin: thanks, I was used to psaux in debian...
[11:11] <MarcoPau> whoops
[11:11] <MarcoPau> kenthomson: thanks, I was used to psaux in debian...
[11:12] <unop> livingdaylight,  localepurge .. you miss an 'e' :)
[11:13] <unop> MarcoPau,  you can create your own psaux -- alias psaux='ps aux'  :)
[11:13] <livingdaylight> unop, no i didn't actually when i used cli or synaptic and neither give me a return
[11:13] <livingdaylight> ahha
[11:13] <livingdaylight> wait
[11:14] <livingdaylight> unop, how do i configure it now?
[11:14] <unop> livingdaylight,  errm, it should ask you as you are installing it .. if not -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow localepurge
[11:15] <MarcoPau> unop: sure
[11:15] <cow_2001> okay, thanks
[11:15] <unop> livingdaylight,  after that -- run it via  - sudo localepurge
[11:15] <livingdaylight> unop, a screen comes up and its asking me to select locale files but there are hundreds, do i keep selecting each one?
[11:15] <unop> livingdaylight,  ohh no, you select the locales you want to keep there -- not the ones you want deleting :)
[11:16] <livingdaylight> unop, do i want to remove all locales?
[11:16] <unop> livingdaylight,  you in the state?
[11:16] <unop> states*
[11:16] <livingdaylight> no
[11:16] <livingdaylight> so which ones do i wanna keep?
[11:16] <unop> livingdaylight,  well, no .. you want to keep the files for your particular locale
[11:16] <unop> livingdaylight,  ok, where do you live then?
[11:17] <livingdaylight> unop, london
[11:17] <fialar> the big smoke :)
[11:17] <livingdaylight> unop, but mark shuttleworth is too busy to help me ^^
[11:18] <unop> livingdaylight,  hah, london eh, me too :) .. anyway, the locales you want are en_GB en_GB.utf en_GB.ISO8859.1 etc
[11:18] <unop> livingdaylight,  keep all the en_GB ones to be safe
[11:19] <livingdaylight> unop, ok, so i tick en_GB only
[11:19] <unop> all the en_GB ones only .. mind the difference :)
[11:19] <fialar> can someone tell me what the latest version of the kernel is for edgy?
[11:19] <fialar> I'm seeing two.. but one of them is not yet complete
[11:19] <LycoLoco> anyone here to help at this hour?
[11:20] <frogzoo> fialar:  2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP
[11:20] <livingdaylight> unop, that's done it seems
[11:20] <unop> fialar, you could get 2.6.19 i think
[11:20] <fialar> frogzoo: I saw a 2.6.17-50 out.. but no restricted modules package for it yet :(
[11:20] <fialar> unop: is there a 2.6.19 for edgy?
[11:20] <frogzoo> fialar: nopers - I have the latest from the repos
[11:21] <LycoLoco> I'm having issues with booting back into ubuntu after trying to set up my mouse: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2128110&postcount=399
[11:21] <martin_> Hello i running linux ubuntu and i was type rm -rf * in terminal i mistake :( and now when i open terminal look what i have: To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".
[11:21] <martin_> what that means ?
[11:21] <unop> fialar,  ahh sorry, never mind my ramblings
[11:21] <livingdaylight> unop, cool, wherea bouts?
[11:22] <unop> livingdaylight,  sudo localepurge
[11:22] <martin_> now i can't open Networking
[11:22] <fialar> LycoLoco: um.. why were you trying to set up a printer in fstab?
[11:22] <unop> livingdaylight,  i'm up visiting girlfriend/parents now in sheffield -- but i stay in wembley
[11:22] <LycoLoco> fialar: I dunno man, it was something that was suggested, so I tried it - obviously it failed :-p
[11:22] <mattl> "When Freespire 2.0 arrives in April, it will use Ubuntu as its base, moving off of the current Debian. Ubuntu users will get access to proprietary software (DVD players, media codecs) via Linspire's newly opened Click 'N Run." - ugh!!!
[11:23] <martin_> people can somebody help me please ?
[11:23] <fialar> LycoLoco: /etc/fstab is only for mounting of disks.. printers is /etc/printcap
[11:23] <LycoLoco> fialar: I know, I know, however that's not an issue anymore - the current issue is with my mouse
[11:23] <mattl> martin_: i missed you saying what your problem was. what's up?
[11:23] <LycoLoco> and not booting
[11:23] <livingdaylight> unop, 38644k freed up, not bad. I see, i'm in Camden
[11:23] <fialar> LycoLoco: try running 'udevstart' as root
[11:23] <livingdaylight> unop, looking for a local nix guru
[11:23] <martin_> mattl: no is that problem i mistake :)
[11:24] <LycoLoco> fialar: I can't even get to a terminal
[11:24] <LycoLoco> or a CLI of any kind
[11:24] <fialar> livingdaylight: I'm up in Cheshire  *waves at daan saaf* ;)
[11:24] <unop> livingdaylight,  it's been awhile since i was last in camden .. it's been victim to many a pub crawl :)
[11:24] <fialar> LycoLoco: ctrl-alt-F1 ?
[11:24] <mattl> martin_: er.. so what do you need help with?
[11:24] <LycoLoco> fialar: it doesn't even get that far, but lemme try
[11:24] <LycoLoco> be back in less than 5 minutes
[11:25] <mattl> LycoLoco: i'm going to count ;)
[11:25] <martin_> mattl: in Terminal i do mistake i type rm -rf *
[11:25] <livingdaylight> unop, there's a couple pubs here, yea...^^
[11:25] <livingdaylight> fialar, *waves at the cheshire possey
[11:26] <fialar> livingdaylight: in da house :D
[11:26] <Amon-san> martin_: were you root?
[11:26] <livingdaylight> ^^
[11:26] <martin_> To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".
[11:26] <martin_> See "man sudo_root" for details.
[11:26] <martin_> i dont know what is that
[11:26] <martin_> :S
[11:26] <mackinac> !sudo
[11:26] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:27] <fialar> I want to convince my techy boss that sudo is better than su.. but he just won't have it.
[11:27] <Amon-san> then you did not delete anything yet
[11:27] <chibiace> fialar, you can sudo -i
[11:27] <unop> livingdaylight, well, that was back in the day when i liked drinking - things have changed now :)
[11:27] <Amon-san> but the cosole tells you to delete stuff you need to use "sudo <command>"
[11:27] <unop> livingdaylight,  did you say you were looking for a *nix guru?
[11:28] <livingdaylight> unop, yea.. mine has moved back to madrid
[11:28] <livingdaylight> unop, yea, crawling gets less fun after a while
[11:28] <Nitro> Hi. :) I'm trying to compile xchat 2.8, and it first said I didn't have a decent C compiler, so I got gcc( good enough?). Now it says "error: C compiler cannot create executables". Why, is there a way to fix this?
[11:28] <unop> fialar, well, is sudo really better than su ?? :)
[11:29] <fialar> unop: that's the big debate
[11:29] <bimberi> Nitro: install build-essential
[11:29] <fialar> I like sudo better than su
[11:29] <fialar> and he can't stand sudo and wants just su
[11:29] <unop> livingdaylight,  yea, also people "grow up" or atleast i did .. coudlnt stand not being able to stand up half the time :)
[11:30] <DoberMann> hi, i'd like to know if in the Xen package available in Edgy xen is made with or without VT options
[11:30] <LycoLoco> alrighty, still no dice
[11:30] <LycoLoco> couldn't even get to a terminal or anything
[11:30] <LycoLoco> it just hard locks
[11:30] <mattl> LycoLoco: i made that six mins ;)
[11:30] <mackinac> !enter
[11:30] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:30] <Nitro> bimberi: erm, sorry to ask again, but I'm a bit new to linux, which folder? the same? (xchat-2.8?)
[11:30] <tj239> What is the way to stop the blank screens from coming up when the computer goes into screensaver mode?
[11:31] <LycoLoco> mattl: I decided to take a picture of the screen :-)
[11:31] <LycoLoco> ;-)
[11:31] <livingdaylight> unop, crawling, retching, and speaking incoherently is for babies >.<
[11:32] <bimberi> Nitro: it's a package you install, for example 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[11:32] <Nitro> no
[11:32] <Nitro> source
[11:32] <Nitro> Can't find the 2.8 package :/
[11:32] <unop> livingdaylight,  i have to agree but that'd be me saying 76% of adults in britain (or europe for that matter) are babies then :)
[11:32] <LycoLoco> so anyway, does anyone have any ideas what could be causing my inability to even get 30 seconds into booting?
[11:32] <Nitro> using ./configure after unpacking the.tar.gz
[11:33] <bimberi> Nitro: no, in order to compile things in Ubuntu you need that package
[11:33] <Nitro> ok, I'll try.
[11:33] <LycoLoco> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2128110&postcount=399 is my problem
[11:34] <livingdaylight> unop, sure...and? ^^
[11:34] <moreo1> how can I see what my default gateway address is?
[11:34] <Nitro> seems like it's going to work :) thanks bimberi  :)
[11:34] <unop> moreo1,  route -n
[11:34] <LycoLoco> http://lycoloco.thephlogiston.com/files/images/linux.jpg - that's what happens when I boot
[11:34] <bimberi> Nitro: cool, np :)
[11:34] <unop> livingdaylight, go-go-ga-ga? :)
[11:34] <_james> how to install my sound card driver?
[11:34] <livingdaylight> unop, i have to agree but that'd be me saying 76% of adults inbritain (or europe for that matter) are not grown up:o
[11:35] <moreo1> thnx unop
[11:35] <Nitro> bimberi: do I need to relogin after it's done (the package you told me)?
[11:36] <livingdaylight> unop, im a baby still, coz i can't take care of my gnu/linux machine. Still looking for a nix guru to wipe my machine's diapers every once ina while
[11:36] <LycoLoco> Anybody with an idea as to why my machine won't boot after trying to set up my mouse? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2128110&postcount=399
[11:37] <bimberi> Nitro: no, should work straight away
[11:38] <Nitro> ok. *tries ./configure* almost, I get "configure: error: "Cannot find glib""
[11:38] <fialar> LycoLoco: where does it stop booting?
[11:39] <LycoLoco> right at that last line
[11:39] <fialar> the hdb: line?
[11:39] <LycoLoco> where it says hdb: hd...yeah
[11:39] <fialar> what is hdb?
[11:39] <fialar> a disk? a cdrom?
[11:39] <LycoLoco> yeah, a disk
[11:39] <Jowi> LycoLoco, hmmmm, that screen is a Mitsubishi. they produce cars. I think that's why it behaves as it does.... joking aside, you don't really provide much info. what did you do exactly to install that mouse...?
[11:39] <Nitro> bimberi: need to install glib?
[11:39] <fialar> LycoLoco: looks like it's having trouble mounting that disk.. or detecting it properly
[11:39] <LycoLoco> Jowi: I followed exactly what the tutorial said - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219894&highlight=mx518
[11:40] <LycoLoco> fialar: yeah, I know what you mean, but as I said, I had this problem before after messing around with udev, and when I removed the code last time, it worked again
[11:40] <LycoLoco> not if that necessarily helps at all - just trying to give as much info as possible
[11:40] <mackinac> what is the command for XChat's URL handler to open links in firefox?
[11:40] <LycoLoco> and when I say had this problem, it hung at the exact same location
[11:40] <_james> how to restart usb?
[11:41] <fialar> LycoLoco: are you running 6.06?
[11:41] <Nitro> bimari?
[11:41] <LycoLoco> 6.10
[11:41] <Nitro> *bimbari
[11:41] <fialar> LycoLoco: you shouldn't need to edit udev to detect the mouse.. it should automatically detect it
[11:41] <tj239> What is the way to stop the blank screens from coming up when the computer is set with 'random' screensaver mode?
[11:41] <master5o1> hi
[11:41] <LycoLoco> fialar: it's not a problem about mouse detection, it's about trying to get extra buttons working
[11:42] <_james> i mean i have remove a usb device on the usb port and when i put it back it won't detect now the device.. how to restart usb?
[11:42] <master5o1> why is no one talking in offtopic..
[11:42] <LycoLoco> unfortunately, the mouse, for most intents and purposes, worked fine before I mucked around :-p
[11:42] <bimberi> Nitro: possibly.  The best way to install the required dependencies would be to 'sudo apt-get build-dep xchat'
[11:42] <fialar> LycoLoco: oh that's easy. just edit xorg.conf and put in Option "ZAxisMapping"   "4 5"
[11:42] <shinobi2> does ubuntu's graphic run good in vmware?
[11:42] <LycoLoco> fialar: yeah, now you tell me :-p
[11:43] <Nitro> aah, I'll try that bimbari
[11:43] <LycoLoco> hehe, kidding
[11:43] <_james> !vmware
[11:43] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[11:43] <LycoLoco> but all joking aside, I did want to do it "the hard way" because then I could set up imwheel to set up per-application buttons for the mouse
[11:43] <LycoLoco> @ fialar
[11:43] <Jowi> LycoLoco, ...or in xorg.conf add the option "ButtonMapping"
[11:43] <hairulf1> Hey all, what package should I get to unpack rar and r00 etc?
[11:43] <LycoLoco> Jowi: right, I'll do taht after I can get my system to boot again
[11:44] <LycoLoco> Jowi: right now, I'm a sitting duck (in XP even)
[11:44] <bimberi> !rar | hairulf1
[11:44] <ubotu> hairulf1: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:44] <_james> what is vmware?
[11:44] <Jowi> !vmware | _james
[11:44] <ubotu> _james: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[11:44] <mneptok> _james: Wikipedia may be of assistance
[11:45] <hairulf1> Thanks a lot bimberi!
[11:45] <LycoLoco> Jowi, fialar - I don't understand what's still going wrong though - I reversed everything that I did, and I don't see anything that could have left lasting effects (other files created or whatnot), so do you guys see anything I may have overlooked?
[11:45] <bimberi> _james: Virtualisatoin software - http://www.vmware.com/
[11:45] <Jowi> _james, or vmware.com
[11:45] <_james> what does it do?
[11:45] <livingdaylight> _james, its not spyware, dont worry
[11:45] <kontingenz> someone usig a Canon 8000F USB Scanner? sane seems not to support this scanner. but I remember this scanner is unsupported since 2003! is this possible?
[11:45] <bimberi> hairulf1: yw :)
[11:45] <fialar> LycoLoco: I'd undo those 6.06 evdev / udev instructions
[11:46] <fialar> 6.06 != 6.10
[11:46] <vaderdistro> hey guys
[11:46] <LycoLoco> fialar: ok - I did remove the udev file that I created, is there anything else that would cause issues?
[11:46] <vaderdistro> anyone no if there is a internet accelarator for linux line in windows?
[11:46] <LycoLoco> fialar: any where else that I should look to delete files?
[11:46] <Jowi> _james, it handles virtual machines
[11:46] <vaderdistro> I'm new andd used one for my dialup
[11:47] <Ippatsu> Hi all! I can't configure Local Network File Sharing in Kubuntu using System Settings -> Sharing because the configuration page is disabled, how can I resolve? (screenshot @ http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8566/sharingkubuntu1iw0.png )
[11:47] <slacker_nl> lo
[11:47] <_james> Jowi: what you mean virtual machines? can i run windows program on linux with that?
[11:48] <LycoLoco> fialar: as far as I know, I didn't do anything to the system other than install imwheel, install xvkbd and xbindkeys, create the udev file (which I deleted) and edited my xorg.conf (which I returned to how it was before this mess started)
[11:48] <tj239> What is the way to stop the blank screens from coming up when the computer is set with 'random' screensaver mode?
[11:48] <chrismhampson> hi
[11:48] <fialar> tj239: xset s noblank  ?
[11:49] <chrismhampson> what's the difference between apt-get autoclean, apt-get clean and apt-get autoremove?
[11:49] <slacker_nl> anybody has some idea, why I cannot install syslog-ng (aptitude will complain about a broken package: ubuntu-minimal - and will ask me to remove ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-base..)
[11:49] <vaderdistro> anyone no if there is a internet accelarator for linux line in windows?
[11:49] <tj239> fialar, thanks, I'll try that
[11:50] <slacker_nl> chrismhampson: apt-get clean is to clean your pkg cache (/var/apt/ something)
[11:50] <hairulf1> bimberi: Works like a charm, cheers mate! I my nick hairulf1? I see it as ...ulfr, strange...Encoding... :/?
[11:50] <fialar> tj239: try disabling dpms
[11:50] <hairulf1> *is
[11:50] <fialar> tj239: xset -dpms
[11:50] <slacker_nl> chrismhampson: man apt-get will help a lot btw :)
[11:50] <Fanskapet> anyone here using XFCE?
[11:50] <Fanskapet> I have a problem relating thunar
[11:51] <slacker_nl> anybody has some idea, why I cannot install syslog-ng (aptitude will complain about a broken package: ubuntu-minimal - and will ask me to remove ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-base..)
[11:51] <Jowi> _james, you can install windows and have it run in it's own window. like this: http://burninghands.eu/pics/Screenshot-3.png
[11:51] <bimberi> hairulf1: looks ok here
[11:51] <chrismhampson> slacker_nl, thanks
[11:51] <vaderdistro> im uding xfce
[11:51] <Fanskapet> I need to open a tunar manually before im able to doubleclick on eg. usb harddrive on the Desktop
[11:51] <ailean> can anyone help me with this error message? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/beryl-plugins_0.2.0+svn20070208-r3786+3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/beryl/libdbus.so', which is also in package beryl-dbus
[11:51] <vaderdistro> what's the problem with thunar
[11:51] <hairulf1> bimberi: Strange, when you type it I see it as hairulf1 -
[11:52] <LycoLoco> fialar: any other ideas?
[11:52] <Jowi> _james, but it's not limited to only windows. you can set up a whole range of operating systems.
[11:52] <vaderdistro> so you need to have it mounted automatic
[11:52] <hairulf1> Ylist
[11:52] <visik7> !repo
[11:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:53] <_james> Jowi: kool..  but it will take more space on your disk right coz you'll have to install the whole windows?
[11:53] <chrismhampson> slacker_nl, according to man apt-get, there is no autoremove!
[11:53] <Jowi> _james, of course.
[11:54] <slacker_nl> chrismhampson: perhaps its something from aptitude
[11:54] <livingdaylight> unop, still wondering why / says 32gb 100% ?
[11:54] <_james> Jowi: how bout wine? i just want to run windows program but i can't make it work on wine can someone help me
[11:54] <chrismhampson> slacker_nl, yeah maybe...anyway is that the best way to save some space in ubuntu?
[11:54] <ailean> _james, what program?
[11:54] <shinobi2> anyone have a guess of when ubuntu 7 will release?
[11:54] <roodmerk> chrismhampson: there is an autoremove in the ubuntu version
[11:55] <livingdaylight> unop, i can understand if /home is full because i've been filling it. but what would fill / up? and disc analyser says its still 100% despite the localepurge we did
[11:55] <roodmerk> shinobi2: 7.04 -> April 2007.
[11:55] <_james> ailean: any kind of windows program
[11:55] <Slart> shinobi2: look at the homepage.. there is a date
[11:55] <bimberi> !feisty | shinobi2
[11:55] <ubotu> shinobi2: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[11:55] <slacker_nl> chrismhampson: burn stuff every now and then to DVD ;)
[11:55] <_james> the problem is on my openglx
[11:55] <ailean> _james, check http://appdb.winehq.org/ to see if it's listed and if so, how well it runs
[11:55] <chrismhampson> roodmerk, what does it do that autoclean doesn't do?
[11:55] <_james> it say's it's not supported
[11:55] <ailean> _james, well it's not supported i'm afraid
[11:55] <slacker_nl> chrismhampson: seriously, run apt-get clean once every while
[11:55] <ailean> _james, hopefully it will be soon
[11:56] <roodmerk> chrismhampson: autoremove removes *installed* packages that are no longer required
[11:56] <livingdaylight> bimberi, a Fawn evoces image of something fragile. Yet it is feisty? to make up for it innate fragility?
[11:56] <chrismhampson> slacker_nl, ok will do....
[11:56] <_james> :( how bout the vmware? does it need an openglx something?
[11:56] <roodmerk> chrismhampson: autoclean empties the cache only, doesn't affect what is installed.
[11:56] <shinobi2> roodmerk:  Slart thanks
[11:56] <Jowi> _james, qemu is not that hard to set up (functions similar to vmware). you create a file of let's say 2GB and install windows in it. then you can run windows with qemu (in the screenshot i use qemu, not vmware)
[11:56] <mneptok> _james: how much experience do you have with Linux?
[11:56] <LycoLoco> Anyone else have any idea why my system won't boot after configuring my mouse? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2128110&postcount=399 is my problem
[11:56] <chrismhampson> roodmerk, how to do delete any residual install files?
[11:56] <roodmerk> chrismhampson: that'
[11:56] <bimberi> livingdaylight: sounds feasible (to use another f word :) )
[11:56] <roodmerk> s trickier.
[11:56] <livingdaylight> bimberi, however, feisty a front it is still a Fawn and wouldn't fool a lion. Who'd still kill it
[11:56] <unop> livingdaylight,  errm, how are you checking disk usage?
[11:57] <chrismhampson> roodmerk, thanks
[11:57] <Jowi> _james, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[11:57] <roodmerk> chrismhampson: An easy start is 'deborphan'
[11:57] <mneptok> livingdaylight: unless the fawn had a rocket launcher
[11:57] <livingdaylight> unop, Disk Usage Analyser in Accessories
[11:57] <b0sanac> hello people :]  how to set a connection ADSL ? a
[11:58] <livingdaylight> mneptok, lol, thats a common site. What to get away?
[11:58] <roodmerk> chrismhampson: Or, to remove leftover config files, 'dpkg -l | grep ^rc | awk '{print $2}' | xargs sudo dpkg --purge'
[11:58] <snail> is there a webpage I can find with recommendations of which formats to use for secondary disks?
[11:58] <_james> mneptok:  im just new to linux :(
[11:58] <unop> livingdaylight,  what does df have to say?
[11:58] <b0sanac> somebody here ?
[11:58] <chrismhampson> roodmerk, looks complicated!
[11:58] <livingdaylight> bimberi, Feisty F*****?
[11:58] <roodmerk> chrismhampson: That will find all packages marked 'rc' (Residiual Config) and purge their files from the system. They don't usually take up a lot of space, though.
[11:59] <tj239> fialar, I was curious what xset did and was looking through the man pages it has and have a question, what does the monitor do when the dpms is commandlined off ?
[11:59] <slacker_nl> anybody has some idea, why I cannot install syslog-ng (aptitude will complain about a broken package: ubuntu-minimal - and will ask me to remove ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-base..)
[11:59] <LycoLoco> Anyone else have any idea why my system won't boot after configuring my mouse? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2128110&postcount=399 is my problem
[11:59] <bimberi> livingdaylight: ... um ...
[11:59] <chrismhampson> roodmerk, where can I learn how to do this stuff in a terminal?
[11:59] <weirdie> b0sanac, private room
[11:59] <b0sanac> weirdiewait to register my nick
[11:59] <livingdaylight> unop, well df says something else
[12:00] <b0sanac> weirdiei must wait 600 seconds
[12:00] <b0sanac> :S
[12:00] <roodmerk> chrismhampson: It's all basic stuff, just chanined together with pipes - which is basic shell commands.
[12:00] <unop> livingdaylight,  it's probably the version you can trust
[12:00] <livingdaylight> unop, assures me that 10gb are actually still available on /
[12:00] <b0sanac> can you tell me on some channel we will lock it a ?
[12:00] <b0sanac> pls
[12:00] <roodmerk> chrismhampson: I guess I learned by idling on #debian and looking what others do :-)
[12:00] <slacker_nl> lol
[12:00] <mneptok> _james: if i were you, i would not try VMware and WINE and all that stuff until you have a little experience. crawl before you try and walk. or run.
[12:00] <unop> livingdaylight,  which sounds reasonable .. i dont see any linux PC taking up an entire 32GB just for /
[12:00] <slacker_nl> roodmerk: from the coffee?
[12:00] <livingdaylight> unop, yea...i think i should immediatly go and kill Disk Analiser
[12:00] <weirdie> b0sanac, #myLinux
[12:00] <roodmerk> slacker_nl: tuurlijk
[12:00] <unop> livingdaylight,  or upgrade it :)
[12:00] <livingdaylight> unop, well, thats what had me flumaxed to
[12:00] <roodmerk> slacker_nl: backup nick van 'cafuego' ;-)
[12:01] <livingdaylight> *too
[12:01] <_james> mneptok: how bout qemu?
[12:01] <slacker_nl> roodmerk: why nof redband ;)
[12:01] <slacker_nl> not
[12:01] <b0sanac> weirdie ok join in
[12:01] <mneptok> _james: why do you need hardware virtualization?
[12:01] <cafuego> liar!
[12:02] <_james> i just want to access windows programs and files :)
[12:02] <b0sanac> weirdie join in #bosanac
[12:02] <unop> livingdaylight,  false-positives can render you panicking :)
[12:02] <livingdaylight> unop, so its only /home actually at 88% that is a concern.
[12:02] <roodmerk> slacker_nl: It's all about the coffee, not the licorice.
[12:02] <mneptok> _james: well, have you *tried* Linux apps?
[12:02] <chrismhampson> roodmerk, what does the awk '{print $2} bit do?
[12:02] <slacker_nl> roodmerk: I ment redbrand (I love making typo's today)
[12:02] <unop> livingdaylight,  yea, so if you move your music onto the new partition you should have plenty there
[12:03] <roodmerk> chrismhampson: it splits the input line on the default separator (space or tab) and prints only field #2.
[12:03] <unop> chrismhampson,  prints the second token in the input to it
[12:03] <roodmerk> chrismhampson: Which would be the package name.
[12:03] <slacker_nl> *zucht* the pastebins are slow today...
[12:03] <_james> mneptok:  nope
[12:03] <livingdaylight> unop, ok, so one way i thought is to install a really light second distro on sda5; the other is what you metnioned earlier ...what was that?
[12:03] <roodmerk> chrismhampson: check `echo "this is only a test" | awk '{print $3}'
[12:03] <chrismhampson> roodmerk, thanks for that
[12:03] <mneptok> _james: so .... why are you trying Linux?
[12:03] <mneptok> ;)
[12:04] <roodmerk> slacker_nl: redbrand would be english eh, not dutch.
[12:04] <livingdaylight> unop, i could install a another distro then mount my /home/me/music and keep it all there
[12:04] <_james> dude you're so rude
[12:04] <roodmerk> slacker_nl: Incidentally, it'd be "red label"
[12:04] <mneptok> _james: i see no point in running Linux if all you do is run Windows apps.
[12:04] <_james> will you just help me instead
[12:04] <livingdaylight> unop, or i use gparted to do something with sda5?
[12:04] <chrismhampson> roodmerk, yep i see what you mean
[12:04] <mneptok> _james: it's a fair question.
[12:04] <slacker_nl> roodmerk: I would link that to whiskey, not coffee ;)
[12:05] <roodmerk> slacker_nl: I dislike whisky. Quite a lot.
[12:05] <mneptok> _james: it's not rude. it's understandable confusion.
[12:05] <_james> whatever you say
[12:05] <_james> i need someone to help me :)
[12:05] <ardchoille> _james: What do you need help with?
[12:06] <Madpilot> _james, what do you need/want to do that you're so convinced you need Windows apps for?
[12:06] <livingdaylight> unop, i was thinking of Zenwalk, but they use lilo and last time it messed up my grub real bad
[12:06] <_james> i need help on installing QEmo
[12:06] <livingdaylight> unop, couldn' tboot into ubuntu anymore
[12:06] <unop> livingdaylight,  if i were you, i'd forget gparted and simply format /dev/sda5 .. mount it as something like /multimedia via /etc/fstab .. copy all the music and movies (and pr0n) to /multimedia and create a symlink so that /home/multimedia points to /multimedia
[12:06] <slacker_nl> http://pb.beeman.nl/6 - syslog-ng problem with deps to ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-base
[12:06] <slacker_nl> anyone that can help me, to get syslog-ng installed from the repo's without breaking ubuntu minimal?
[12:06] <ardchoille> _james: Sorry, can't help. I use only Linux and therefore have no need for vm's or other OS's
[12:07] <livingdaylight> unop, woah...quite a few steps there
[12:07] <livingdaylight> unop, format as in with fdisk or cfdisk?
[12:07] <unop> livingdaylight,  right now /dev/sda5 is ntfs right?
[12:07] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can I conenct to a dial up broadhand connection?
[12:07] <Madpilot> _james, back up one step - what're you trying to do that utterly needs a Windows app?
[12:07] <livingdaylight> unop, errr..i don't even think so...
[12:07] <unop> livingdaylight,  errm, no mkfs
[12:08] <erUSUL> slacker_nl: just uninstall the metapackage, there is no other way afaik  (and remember to install it again during a dist upgrade
[12:08] <livingdaylight> unop, can you talk me through it? if not i understand . You've already helped me alot
[12:08] <_james> Madpilot:  ok i just want to have both the os.. i just want my box to be totally equipped
[12:08] <unop> livingdaylight,  errm according to the fdisk -l you pasted earlier -- it is an ntfs partition
[12:08] <_james> :)
[12:08] <b0sanac> HELLO SOMEBODY CAN HELP ME HOW TO I SET CONNECTION ADSL ???? PLS !
[12:08] <slacker_nl> erUSUL: just unstall which package?
[12:08] <unop> livingdaylight,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4831/
[12:09] <b0sanac> HEY PEOPLE PLs !
[12:09] <ardchoille> !caps | b0sanac
[12:09] <ubotu> b0sanac: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:09] <b0sanac> ardchoille pls can you help me ?
[12:09] <unop> livingdaylight,  ok, you sure you backed up everything off of that partition ?
[12:09] <slacker_nl> erUSUL: I can't afford downtime on this machine (not for a long period at least
[12:09] <ardchoille> b0sanac: I can try. What's your issue?
[12:09] <Madpilot> _james, not sure how "inflicting Windows on yourself" translates to "totally equipped", but in any case, all I've done is mess with wine a bit, never touched the full VMs...
[12:09] <b0sanac> archangelpetro i can't connect my ADSL from system administration networking i must connect the interhet from terminal but i dont know how :S
[12:10] <ardchoille> b0sanac: Sorry, can't help. Never had a problem with ADSL
[12:10] <tj239> is there a webpage that lists the different commands that can be run in Ubuntu?  xset is something I had never heard of or seen while in here.  of course I pretty newb just coming from Winders
[12:10] <livingdaylight> unop, yes, i forgot i had prepared it for xp. now have i backed everything up off of what partition sda5? it is empty
[12:10] <b0sanac> ardchoille but ubotu bot maybe can help me try with him pLS
[12:11] <b0sanac> i really need help
[12:11] <b0sanac> to set connectio
[12:11] <slacker_nl> b0sanac: what kind of connection do you need to setup?
[12:11] <archangelpetro> lol /me feels the burn of the bite :)
[12:11] <b0sanac> adsl connection
[12:11] <b0sanac> slacker_nl please can you help me :( ?
[12:12] <_`XeOn_> hello guys where i can find help for setting up an Unrealircd server?
[12:12] <slacker_nl> b0sanac: don't have the time atm
[12:12] <unop> livingdaylight,  ok, in that case -- run this command - sudo mkfs /dev/sda5 -t ext3
[12:12] <freakabcd> hi all
[12:12] <slacker_nl> b0sanac: read man interfaces
[12:12] <freakabcd> network-admin keeps crashing for me every time i start it!
[12:12] <b0sanac> slacker_nl can you help me with ubotu yes i will read interfaces but tell me PLS
[12:12] <b0sanac> tell me some website
[12:12] <erUSUL> slacker_nl: as i understand you when you try to install syslog-ng ubuntu-minmal and ubuntu-base are being removed
[12:12] <b0sanac> to apt-get install bla bla
[12:13] <b0sanac> i dont know
[12:13] <bimberi> !adsl
[12:13] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[12:13] <slacker_nl> erUSUL: yes, correct
[12:13] <bakert> Does anyone know how I can add a channel to those that load automatically when I start xchat?
[12:13] <erUSUL> slacker_nl: i only told you that this are meta-packages that can be safely removed
[12:13] <ardchoille> unop: Is that how you format a partition to ext3?
[12:13] <livingdaylight> unop, done
[12:13] <slacker_nl> erUSUL: ahh, ok
[12:13] <unop> ardchoille,  yep
[12:13] <b0sanac> slacker_nl pls can you ?
[12:13] <erUSUL> slacker_nl: as long as you remember to install them again if you ever do a dist-upgrade of the machine
[12:13] <ardchoille> unop: Thanks :)
[12:14] <slacker_nl> b0sanac: I can't have to make things work at work
[12:14] <erUSUL> !meta-package | slacker_nl
[12:14] <ubotu> slacker_nl: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[12:14] <unop> livingdaylight,  ok, now add an entry into /etc/fstab -- open it up -- gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:14] <_`XeOn_> any1 plz tell me where to find support to setup an unreal server
[12:14] <livingdaylight> unop, which gksudo or gedit?
[12:14] <_`XeOn_> !unrealircd
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrealircd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <unop> livingdaylight,  actually you need a mount point first -- sudo mkdir /media/multimedia
[12:14] <slacker_nl> erUSUL: I've had some problems with meta-packages in the past..
[12:14] <slacker_nl> well, I'll give it a shot
[12:14] <_`XeOn_> im going to cry!
[12:15] <slacker_nl> erUSUL: merci
[12:15] <arke> Hi. How do I enable write permission for USB disks that I plug in?
[12:15] <unop> livingdaylight,  both - gksudo is the GUI alt. for sudo
[12:15] <b0sanac> !connection
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about connection - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <Nitro> . I used make, and the sudo make install bimberi, but when you try to start it, you get the "is no such file or folder" error
[12:15] <b0sanac> can somebody help me ?
[12:16] <b0sanac> !connection b0sanac
[12:16] <freakabcd> !network-admin
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network-admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <livingdaylight> unop, ok, i'm in it
[12:16] <erUSUL> slacker_nl: np
[12:16] <bimberi> put the whole error on a pastebin - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:16] <bimberi> !adsl | b0sanac
[12:16] <ubotu> b0sanac: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[12:16] <livingdaylight> unop,  is performing surgery on my computer
[12:16] <scv> b0sanac, you chould ask for help to the isp guy
[12:16] <unop> livingdaylight,  once you have fstab open -- add an entry at the end -- /dev/sda5  /media/multimedia  ext3    defaults        0       2
[12:17] <unop> livingdaylight,  this is supposing you did create the mount point
[12:17] <unop> livingdaylight,  once done here -- save the file, exit and run this command -- sudo mount -a
[12:17] <Terminus-> anybody here getting weird linux-image-686 depends for linux-image-2.6.15-28-686(which does not exist) from a recent dapper update?
[12:17] <KS-Fan> trk yokmu amk
[12:18] <KS-Fan> trk yokmu amk
[12:18] <Terminus-> same thing for linux-image-386. it's looking 2.6.15-28 which doesn't exist.
[12:18] <livingdaylight> unop, mount point /media/multimedia ? sure... i'm right with you like a true grasshopper don't you worry
[12:18] <erUSUL> Terminus-: same problem in edgy. i'm going to check launchpad
[12:18] <arke> is ntfs write possible, or only ntfs read?
[12:19] <Terminus-> erUSUL: roger. i'll check too. =)
[12:19] <Nitro> bimberi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4837/
[12:19] <unop> livingdaylight,  :) .. ok, so you ran mount -a then?
[12:19] <unop> :)
[12:20] <livingdaylight> unop, lol mount: mount point /media/multimedia does not exist.
[12:20] <unop> livingdaylight,  lol :))
[12:20] <livingdaylight> unop, but i know i did, i did
[12:20] <unop> livingdaylight,  ls -ld /media/multimedia
[12:21] <livingdaylight> unop, it insists that /media /multimedia doesnt exist
[12:21] <slacker_nl> erUSUL: thnx, it worked
[12:21] <erUSUL> Terminus-: XD
[12:21] <erUSUL> slacker_nl: no problem
[12:21] <unop> livingdaylight,  errm ,... no spaces there
[12:21] <slacker_nl> erUSUL: better safe then sorry :)
[12:21] <Nitro> bimberi: Why won't it work?
[12:21] <Terminus-> erUSUL: there's a linux-source-2.6.15 2.6.15-27.50 in launchpad. maybe it just hasn't made the repos yet?
[12:21] <bimberi> Nitro: hm. if everything worked without error it should be there.  Does 'ls /usr/bin/xchat' return anythibng?
[12:22] <bimberi> -b
[12:22] <unop> livingdaylight,  but does it exist? mind the spellings and other errors/typos
[12:22] <livingdaylight> unop, sudo mkdir /media/multimedia i copied and pasted this command earlier, so....
[12:22] <Nitro> nope
[12:22] <unop> livingdaylight,  ok, so verify it exists -- ls -ld /media/multimedia
[12:23] <bimberi> Nitro: 'ls /usr/bin/*xchat*' ?
[12:23] <erUSUL> Terminus-: that's what i thought yesterday... the roblem is lasting too much to be a problem with repo sync. imho
[12:23] <unop> livingdaylight,  and are you sudoing the mount command? zat's vevvy vevvy impotent :)
[12:23] <livingdaylight> unop, i just verified with nautilus and yes i see the directory multimedia in media
[12:23] <Nitro> still negative bimberi
[12:23] <Nitro> erm, bimbari, doy uo have to make/make install from / ?
[12:23] <livingdaylight> unop, aha....!!sudo ls -ld /media/multimedia ? no i just copied how you gave it to me
[12:24] <Nitro> or can you simply do it anywhere?
[12:24] <bimberi> Nitro: no, from the directory with the source code
[12:24] <unop> livingdaylight, not sudo for ls -- sudo for mount :p   sudo mount -a
[12:24] <Nitro> okey, then I did it right.
[12:24] <Nitro> why not it show then :<
[12:24] <Terminus-> erUSUL: hmmm... the one available on launchpad is -27, not -28. maybe the version numbers got messed up? -27 is supposed to supersede -26.
[12:25] <bimberi> Nitro: seemes so, is there any clues in the output of the commands? or in the INSTALL file perhaps?
[12:25] <livingdaylight> unop, yes
[12:25] <livingdaylight> unop, doesn't acknowledge /media/multimedia but i see it in nautilus
[12:25] <livingdaylight> unop, so the dir was created
[12:26] <unop> livingdaylight,  ok, !pastebin your /etc/fstab file .. let me have a look at it
[12:26] <erUSUL> Terminus-: in edgy there is a .17-10 and a .17-50 !!! but the linux-image-generic requires an inexistent .17-11
[12:26] <Nitro> bimbari: in the install files is the "step by step", which is how I did it
[12:26] <Nitro> *INSTALL file
[12:26] <Terminus-> erUSUL: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/dapper/+package/linux-image-2.6.15-27-686 has been published. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/dapper/+package/linux-image-2.6.15-50-686 has been marked as published but is also marked as a proposal. >_<
[12:26] <livingdaylight> unop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4838/
[12:27] <Terminus-> erUSUL: those are the two most recent i can see on launchpad, none of them match the -28 dep in apt.
[12:27] <korlink> i have a problem, i cant connect my pc with ubuntu(just installed) to me wireless network T_T
[12:27] <bimberi> Nitro: them I am at a loss.  perhaps 'sudo updatedb' then see if 'locate xchat | grep bin' returns anything
[12:28] <Nitro> I'll try
[12:28] <GaiaX11> Will be it possible to upgrade from dapper to feisty?
[12:29] <timShady> hey ho all, having a little problem upgrading the kernel in my edgy. I was originally on named kernels, but changed to the 'generic' ones when going to 2.6.17-10. Version <IP_ADDRESS> got listed on my updates today, but it seems that I have broken packages (unmet dependencies on kernel headers, linux-image-generic and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic). Any clues?
[12:29] <unop> GaiaX11,  sure .. but the recommended/safe route is through edgy (which i think is a waste of time and bandwidth) .. what you do depends on your mileage
[12:29] <Terminus-> timShady: i'm having the same problem on dapper and erUSUL is having the same problem on edgy.
[12:29] <Nitro> bimberi: do you know of a package of xchat-2.8?
[12:30] <stinger_au> yo
[12:30] <bimberi> Nitro: no
[12:30] <Nitro> ok
[12:30] <stinger_au> does anyone know if kaffeine needs something to be installed in order to record ?
[12:30] <bimberi> !info xchat feisty
[12:30] <unop> livingdaylight,  errm, i cant seem to find anything wrong with it -- try decreasing the amount of whitespace between fields on that line .. 2 spaces should do
[12:30] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[12:30] <stinger_au> ffmpeg maybe ?
[12:30] <stinger_au> atm i can not install
[12:30] <stinger_au> i mean i can not recorde
[12:30] <timShady> Terminus, think it'll probably be a case of waiting a day or two for the repos to sorted?
[12:30] <stinger_au> record
[12:30] <Nitro> feisty bimberi?
[12:30] <bimberi> Nitro: there you go, you could try backporting the feisty package
[12:31] <livingdaylight> unop, i preempted your thoughts exactly and pasted the way you put it originally, but sudo mount -a gives me the same reply. I don't think therefore that the spaces matter
[12:31] <xavelabeth> xavela
[12:31] <korlink> i can`t connect to my wireless network, no matter what i do... am i forgetting something?
[12:31] <Nitro> Nitro: Do I need to add a line to sources.list?
[12:31] <erUSUL> !info linux-image-generic
[12:31] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:31] <Terminus-> timShady: maybe. the i'm having problems with linux-image-2.6.15-28-686 deps. the most recent i see on launchpad is -27. there's -50 there that's proposed AND published (mind boggling). i've got the -27 installed right now.
[12:32] <Terminus-> !info linux-image-686 dapper
[12:32] <GaiaX11> unop: The problem is that I haven't been lucky with edgy. I tried to install it about 4 times, but I was always stuck in a blank screen. And even running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did not do the trick for me. So, I hope to be luckier with feisty
[12:32] <ubotu> linux-image-686: Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:32] <Zaggynl> Is there a way to get the list of starting/stopping services back at boot/shutdown in Edgy?
[12:32] <Nitro> *bimberi, do I have to add a line to sources.list?
[12:33] <Nitro> (btw i'm on 6.06)
[12:33] <unop> livingdaylight,  errm .. try mounting the partition from the command line - sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda5 /media/multimedia
[12:33] <Terminus-> oh, and backports are disabled here. i've got main/restricted/universe/multiverse for dapper, dapper-updates, and dapper-security.
[12:33] <timShady> Terminus, good luck! I think I'll have to wait until the weekend for a proper look at this one (at work, and hence meant to be doing work)
[12:34] <timShady> cya all :)
[12:34] <livingdaylight> unop, same
[12:34] <Nitro> bimberi ?
[12:34] <Terminus-> timShady: i'm at work too, and i should be doing more productive things for the company. =D
[12:34] <Terminus-> guess i'll have to wait this one out too.
[12:34] <livingdaylight> unop, mount: mount point /media/multimedia does not exist
[12:35] <livingdaylight> unop, imagine i tried to do this myself! lol
[12:35] <bimberi> Nitro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268687
[12:35] <unop> Zaggynl,  /etc/rc2.d contains the scripts for runlevel2(the default) /etc/rc6.d for reboot  .. the files starting with S in those directories indicate services starting .. files with K indicate services stopping
[12:36] <Zaggynl> unop, I mean, when I boot/shutdown Edgy, I only get to see a orange bar going from left to right or vice versa
[12:36] <unop> livingdaylight,  ok, what does this command return (no nautilus please :) )  ls -ld "/media/multimedia"
[12:36] <livingdaylight> unop, worse come to worse, you've helped me change the ntfs to ext3 so it si ready for a light distro. I can from there then try to mount sda2 and bring my /home/me/music over
[12:36] <Zaggynl> unop, I kinda miss the list from Dapper :)
[12:37] <unop> Zaggynl,  you mean the verbose output eh? ahh .. just edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and take out the "splash" keyword from the kernel entry
[12:37] <livingdaylight> unop, conrad@Dune:~$ ls -ld "/media/multimedia"
[12:37] <livingdaylight> ls: /media/multimedia: No such file or directory
[12:37] <Zaggynl> unop, ah thanks <3
[12:37] <unop> livingdaylight,  well -- there you go -- the file does not exist :p
[12:38] <unop> livingdaylight, how about this -  ls -ld /media/multimedia
[12:38] <Nitro> bimbari: So first I install the 2.6.6 package, and then update?
[12:38] <livingdaylight> unop, we tried that earlier, withteh same result. how comes when i checked with nautiuls it was there? i did put the mkdir etc in so, why would the ocmmand not have worked?
[12:39] <Gosha> !tablet
[12:39] <bimberi> Nitro: no, follow that guide to build a package from feisty sources
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <jakeyfu> last night, I tried to sync my pda with ubuntu 6.06. but failed again and again!
[12:39] <korlinr> i cannot connecto to my wireless network.... i tried it all...(ubuntu just installed)
[12:39] <unop> livingdaylight,  errm, you probably copied extra whitespace in so that when you issued the mkdir it created something like "/media/multimedia  " .. note the space at the end
[12:40] <Araelius> hello all
[12:40] <livingdaylight> unop, arrghh... aguess that is always possible
[12:40] <livingdaylight> now what?
[12:40] <unop> livingdaylight,  sudo rm -rf /media/multimedia*
[12:40] <livingdaylight> unop, done
[12:40] <unop> livingdaylight,  type this one out :) -- sudo mkdir /media/multimedia
[12:40] <Araelius> I am having an issue installing ubuntu, I can't seem to create new partitions, it seems to fail when I manually resize the original partition, any ideas?
[12:41] <livingdaylight> unop, done
[12:41] <unop> livingdaylight,  verify - ls -ld /media/multi*
[12:41] <livingdaylight> unop, i do'tn know about the white space, coz i juist highlight and then copy it with middle click
[12:41] <bimberi> Araelius: does it say you don't have a root partition or something?
[12:42] <unop> livingdaylight,  yep, it's likely when you highlighted, whitespace was caught in the crossfire :)
[12:42] <livingdaylight> unop, yea!
[12:42] <unop> livingdaylight, ok  sudo mount -a
[12:42] <Araelius> i don't recall, it said something along the lines of checking my filesystem
[12:42] <jakeyfu> anyone who had succeeded in syncing pda with ubuntu?
[12:42] <rizhun> I love Ubuntu!
[12:42] <livingdaylight> unop, we're in business again
[12:42] <unop> livingdaylight,  ok, what does that mean? :)
[12:42] <livingdaylight> unop, have to go back to fstab ?
[12:43] <livingdaylight> unop,  it worked! /media/multimedia is there
[12:43] <unop> livingdaylight,  errm no .. did the mount succeed?
[12:43] <korlinr> cant connect ubuntu with wieless network T_T help
[12:43] <unop> livingdaylight,  verrify that -- mount
[12:43] <rizhun> First time install - got it all up and running in 2 hours (including wireless and beryl)
[12:43] <rizhun> class.
[12:43] <bimberi> Araelius: i've had similar issues with the gui installer and eventually had to resort to the alterate cd :|
[12:43] <livingdaylight> unop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4843/
[12:44] <livingdaylight> unop, how do i verify?
[12:44] <Araelius> hmm, weird that it would give me issues now considering i have installed Ubuntu previously with no issues
[12:44] <unop> livingdaylight,  type out the command - mount
[12:44] <Araelius> what exactly is the purpose of the alternate cd?
[12:44] <unop> livingdaylight,  ahh, you see the spelling mistake here - /media/multimdia :)
[12:45] <bimberi> Araelius: it uses the classic text-mode installer, similar to earlier ubuntu versions
[12:45] <bimberi> !alternate
[12:45] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[12:45] <mandrill> Hi all.
[12:46] <zoli2k> I have problem with HP nx61100. With feisty my built in bluetooth device is not detected
[12:46] <Araelius> gotcha, i just don't undersatnd why it's giving me issue on this install, it's rather frustrating :(
[12:46] <Araelius> issues*
[12:46] <unop> livingdaylight, you ok mate? :)
[12:46] <bimberi> Araelius: yep, unfortunately I can only offer empathy :|
[12:46] <livingdaylight> unop, lol, i'm lost now
[12:47] <zoli2k> Has anybody problem with built in bluetooth device on HP nx6110?
[12:47] <Araelius> lol, thank you bimb
[12:47] <webboss> morning / afternoon / evening all - depending on location. Is todays i386 update holdback an FAQ yet
[12:47] <unop> livingdaylight,  what did the mount command return? !pastebin please
[12:47] <stinger_au> yo
[12:47] <tom47> just wondering if there is something wrpong with the recent updates ... two of us are unable to complete installs dure to dependancy issues
[12:47] <ismail> guys i have a question regarding my nividia driver
[12:47] <stinger_au> Question: kaffeine is not recording ? everything else works though ?
[12:47] <tom47> aha
[12:47] <livingdaylight> unop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4844/
[12:48] <korlinr> cant connect to wireless network!!!!
[12:48] <ismail> iv set up the drivers and it works well. but i reasently came to know that there is a program for nvidia how do i get it
[12:49] <unop> livingdaylight,  hmm, the mount command didnt succeed -- !pastebin this -- sudo mount -a
[12:49] <bimberi> !exploit | livingdaylight, Thunderbolt__, felixhummel, Mistofolees, Hoosteen, morpheus74, saftsack_, human_blip
[12:49] <ubotu> livingdaylight, Thunderbolt__, felixhummel, Mistofolees, Hoosteen, morpheus74, saftsack_, human_blip: There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[12:49] <mandrill> I've just installed from the desktop CD to what was my C:\ drive in windows, and now thats all I can see. I have two NTFS formatted SATA drives (full of stuff which I want to keep, music and the like) which I can't see. theres no disk management option in the administration menu (like it says in the help) and I don't really want to type stuff into the terminal without knowing what I'm doing in case I lose my data. can anyone help?
[12:49] <tom47> webboss is there a holdback?
[12:51] <bimberi> mandrill: type 'sudo fdisk -l' in the terminal to see if the partitions are still there
[12:51] <webboss> tom47: well when running an update I get : the following updates will be skipped linux-image-386   and linux-restricted-modules-386   - prob goes away if you disable the security repositry - tho this is obviously not a solution
[12:51] <stinger_au> any one got any ideas why  i can not record in kaffeine ?
[12:52] <Araelius> well i give up, thanks anyway guys for trying to help
[12:52] <unop> webboss,  the kernel packages require you to manually install them for them to be upgraded, this is so that you know and are aware of this happening
[12:52] <teleyinex> 1hi
[12:53] <KomiaPoika> hi
[12:53] <teleyinex> could someone help me?
[12:53] <Roadrunner1985> !ntfs-3g
[12:53] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:53] <webboss> unop: tried a manual upgrade and it complains of failed dependencies
[12:53] <unop> !ask
[12:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:54] <unop> webboss, yes, there's a small bug in relation to that .. a report has been filed -- give it a few days :)
[12:54] <mandrill> bimberi: whats that on the end? is is a capital i or a small L#
[12:54] <KomiaPoika> can anyone help me, i got a PowerVault 110T tape drive i need to get working in ubuntu 6.10, i can see the device in proc/scsci/scsi, but i don't have the st0 in /dev ... anyone has experience with this?
[12:54] <mdh__> webboss: I get the same here.  looks like the -11 kernel package wasn't uploaded to the security archive
[12:54] <teleyinex> I wondering two things: first how can I make that my laptop brightness at boottime is low instead of high, and second one how can I enable nvidia output rgb with one command or something like i810switch crt on
[12:55] <bimberi> mandrill: small L
[12:56] <mandrill> thnx :)
[12:56] <Skini> Hola :D
[12:56] <progek> I removed enemy territory (the game) from my machine but the system link is still active. -> et tries to run it. How can I remove this from my machine as well?
[12:56] <unop> progek,  whats the name of this link?
[12:57] <progek> et
[12:57] <progek> that used to open the game
[12:57] <mandrill> yes it sees the disks. bimberi
[12:57] <unop> progek,  ohh, something in the menu?
[12:57] <KomiaPoika> can anyone help me, i got a PowerVault 110T tape drive i need to get working in ubuntu 6.10, i can see the device in proc/scsci/scsi, but i don't have the st0 in /dev ... anyone has experience with this?
[12:57] <bimberi> mandrill: that's good - there is a script you can use ...
[12:58] <bimberi> !mountwindows | mandrill
[12:58] <ubotu> mandrill: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[12:58] <unop> progek,  if thats the case you should find the entry in /usr/share/applications/ .. probably named something like et.entry
[12:58] <progek> no sorry, I should have explained better. I installed enemy territory and would run it by typing et in terminal. I removed enemy territory but et still tries to run the game. I would like to remove this link
[12:59] <progek> rather, so if I type et I will get (command not found)
[12:59] <KomiaPoika> progek: .bashrc .bash_alias .bash_profile
[12:59] <unop> progek,  ok -- was this game installed via a ubuntu package ?
[12:59] <Roadrunner1985> !nvidia
[12:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:59] <unop> progek,  this should do it - sudo rm -rf `which et`
[12:59] <progek> no, it was a .bin   I changed the mod then ran it ./
[12:59] <mandrill> thnx I'll give that a go.
[01:00] <progek> thanks both of you
[01:00] <bimberi> mandrill: yw :)
[01:01] <progek> unop: worked perfectly
[01:01] <unop> progek,  :)
[01:02] <brucedes> I've just installed edgy eft on my macbook, and I don't know how to get right clicking to work. I know I can set the bottom enter key to be the right click button, but I'd prefer to use ctrl click or something similar
[01:02] <brucedes> any ideas?
[01:04] <mamzers555> hello
[01:04] <mamzers555> the latest auto-update causes in a defect linux-image-generic
[01:04] <mamzers555> can somebody confirm this?
[01:05] <slavekk> Hi. PLZ HELP ME
[01:05] <mdh__> mamzers555: yes
[01:05] <sylpheedClaws> problem?
[01:05] <apokryphos> !caps | slavekk
[01:05] <ubotu> slavekk: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:05] <slavekk> i got this problem
[01:05] <sylpheedClaws> ...yeah?
[01:05] <mamzers555> so what to do with this broken update?
[01:05] <slavekk> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "ia32-libs-gtk"
[01:05] <slavekk> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "lib32asound2"
[01:05] <slavekk> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "lib32ncurses5"
[01:05] <slavekk> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "ia32-libs-sdl"
[01:05] <jrib> !paste | slavekk
[01:05] <ubotu> slavekk: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:06] <geckino> Hi, I want md5sum of /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-server in ubuntu-server distro
[01:06] <slavekk> sorry
[01:06] <slavekk> ;-/
[01:06] <zoli2k> mamzers555: I updated feisty recently, and I had problem with boot if "splash" was enabled in grob boot line
[01:06] <brucedes> any ideas about right clicking?
[01:06] <mdh__> mamzers555: apparently its known and a fix should be out in a few days
[01:06] <jrib> slavekk: what did you do to get that error?
[01:06] <slavekk> jrib: i have problems with soundcard
[01:06] <sylpheedClaws> Okay... problem: I'm running Dapper
[01:06] <mamzers555> mdh__; i noticed this problem with edgy today
[01:06] <sylpheedClaws> and want to upgrade to Edgy
[01:06] <mamzers555> zoli2k; thanks but i use edgy
[01:06] <slavekk> my linux is xubuntu 6.10
[01:07] <mneptok> zoli2k: /join #ubuntu+1
[01:07] <geckino> Hi, I want md5sum of /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-server in ubuntu-server distro
[01:07] <jrib> slavekk: ok, but what command did you enter that resulted in that error
[01:07] <sylpheedClaws> but in the update manager, there's no button to upgrade
[01:07] <IdleOne> !upgrade | sylpheedClaws
[01:07] <ubotu> sylpheedClaws: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:07] <sylpheedClaws> thanks
[01:07] <zoli2k> mneptok: thanx
[01:07] <mamzers555> mdh__; do you have noticed it in on edgy or on feisty?
[01:07] <slavekk> jriv: i don't remember bu i have several errors with the same problem: no libraries like these
[01:08] <unop> geckino,  the file is created as and when you install the kernel -- the md5 you get will be different to what others get -- why do you ask?
[01:08] <mneptok> geckino: sorry, i run Dapper on my server
[01:08] <mdh__> mamzers555: edgy
[01:08] <Nitro> bimbari: I can't get it too work
[01:09] <zoli2k> has anybody tried ipp2p or l7-filter on ubuntu server?
[01:09] <slavekk> :-((((((((((((((
[01:09] <mamzers555> mdh__; ok, thanks
[01:09] <Roadrunner1985> !mp3
[01:09] <device-x> WinAmp not running
[01:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:09] <jrib> slavekk: so what are you trying to do now?  Those packages you listed don't exist
[01:09] <mdh__> mamzers555: I hunted around and it looks like the two required kernel packages were not uploaded to the archives
[01:09] <mamzers555> mdh__; i don't know if it is safe to reboot then
[01:09] <slavekk> jrib: yes, i want to install these packages but where can i get them
[01:09] <jrib> slavekk: they do not exist
[01:09] <brucedes> also, does anyone know how to get tap clicking on a trackpad to work?
[01:09] <mdh__> mamzers555: see for yourself at http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/base/
[01:09] <slavekk> jrib: in my system
[01:10] <unop> slavekk,  where are you getting the instructions to install these packages from?
[01:10] <slavekk> jrb; true
[01:10] <mneptok> Roadrunner1985: search in Synaptic for "fluendo"
[01:10] <jrib> slavekk: wait I'm wrong, they exist on amd64.  Are you running amd64 version of ubuntu?
[01:10] <mdh__> mamzers555: you'll be fine, so long as you haven't removed your existing kernel image packages (ie, /boot/vmlinuz* and /boot/initrd* still exist
[01:10] <slavekk> unop: i use ubuntuguide.org help to install skype or smtg like this
[01:10] <mdh__> mamzers555: I've rebooted since getting the problem about 24 hours ago...
[01:10] <slavekk> and thats the problem 'cause i got viedo images
[01:10] <unop> slavekk,  and like jrib has found out - are you on a 64 bit system?
[01:11] <mdh__> (its been 38C here so I'm not leaving the PC on to burn the house down while I'm at work)
[01:11] <ul1024k> hey, I just tried to start with ubuntu but I couldn't, so I tried recovery mode ( or whatever ) and it told me it couldn't find DSDT
[01:11] <slavekk> jrib: nope, but my processor ist sempron 64bit. i had used xubuntu 64 bit eralier
[01:12] <unop> slavekk,  what matters now is -- are you currently running 64bit ubuntu?
[01:12] <slavekk> unop: no!
[01:12] <jrib> slavekk: then you cannot install them.  Why do you want to install them?
[01:12] <unop> slavekk,  well, there you go -- it looks like the packages are for 64bit ubuntu only
[01:12] <mamzers555> mdh__; ok, thanks. i thought i could run in trouble, cause in synaptic i have selected to auto-update the auto-install of security-updates
[01:13] <ul1024k> hey, I just tried to start with ubuntu but I couldn't, so I tried recovery mode ( or whatever ) and it told me it couldn't find DSDT... anyone can help?
[01:13] <slavekk> unop. strange thing, i want to use skype and there were similar errors
[01:13] <geckino> unop mneptok excuse me, why aide don't check /boot with this option: =/boot$ BinLib in /etc/aide.conf
[01:13] <jrib> !skype | slavekk
[01:13] <ubotu> slavekk: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[01:13] <geckino> *because
[01:13] <mamzers555> i mean auto-install security-updates
[01:14] <unop> geckino,  i have no idea -- what is aide?
[01:14] <unop> !info aide
[01:14] <ubotu> aide: Advanced Intrusion Detection Environment. In component main, is optional. Version 0.11a-4 (edgy), package size 496 kB, installed size 1516 kB
[01:14] <mdh__> insert glib remark about this would have never happened with debian stable <here>
[01:14] <geckino> advanced intrusion detect environment
[01:14] <DavidHKMrPowers> what's the difference betwween a iU and 2U server?
[01:14] <geckino> k
[01:14] <DavidHKMrPowers> besides the size
[01:14] <slavekk> ubotu. i rememeber where these errors were: while installing firefox with supporting flash etc. (to play with sound on the website)
[01:15] <slavekk> from help guide on ubuntuguide.org
[01:15] <jrib> slavekk: pastebin the exact command you are using and the exact error you get
[01:15] <unop> geckino,  no idea really, never used it -- check that there are no formatting, syntax or spelling errors in that line
[01:15] <slavekk> ??
[01:15] <slavekk> ok
[01:17] <geckino> no unop, if I set /boot BinLib aide check filesystem, but if I set in aide.conf (as default) =/boot$ BinLib don't check
[01:17] <yommb> How can I disable the ( annonying ) F1 help shortcut in Gnome ?
[01:18] <geckino> in man page: =/foo p+i+n+u+g+s+m+c+md5 -> This config adds all files under /foo because they match to regex /foo, which is equivalent to /foo.* . What you probably want is: =/foo$ p+i+n+u+g+s+m+c+md5
[01:18] <hbaigu> !register
[01:18] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:18] <geckino> Note that the following still works as expected because =/foo$ stop recuring of directory /foo.
[01:19] <slavekk> jrib. another problem: You have to install the Gtk+ development (and runtime?) libraries version 2.4.x or superior
[01:20] <slavekk> where can i get it?
[01:20] <jrib> slavekk: lets fix one thing at a time
[01:20] <unop> geckino,  ok i think i get what you mean -- you want to know why /boot$ fails while /boot seems to work?
[01:21] <geckino> yes
[01:21] <nickxydas> hello
[01:21] <nickxydas> i was wondering whats the url for the automatic software tool?
[01:21] <unop> geckino,  errm .. well for one -- does BinLib change the way =/boot$ is checked?
[01:22] <nickxydas> i thought it was www.automatic.com
[01:22] <nickxydas> but its taking me to another site
[01:22] <unop> geckino,  also try  /boot/$
[01:22] <jrib> slavekk: did you pastebin the errors you were getting before?
[01:22] <nickxydas> i mean i thought it was www.getautomatc.com
[01:22] <ardchoille> Are the linux-image packages in Dapper repos broken ATM?
[01:23] <nickxydas> also when i did all the updates the system told me to do after i installed ubuntu dapper version it said do go into synaptic and do mark all upgrades but then what do i do?
[01:23] <ul1024k> why doesn't anyone answer my question?
[01:23] <geckino> if I set =/boot$ BinLib, if I change for example a file in this directory, aide dont' see ..! But if I set /boot BinLib it see!
[01:23] <slavekk> jrib. i will back.
[01:23] <mdh__> nickxydas: www.getautomatix.com
[01:23] <geckino> excuse my english :D
[01:23] <ardchoille> ul1024k: Maybe no one knows the answer?
[01:23] <ul1024k> damn
[01:23] <grimsan> Hi, when i restard my computer, the password for the ftp im using is reset, why is that? im using gproftpd
[01:23] <ardchoille> mdh__: Please do not recommend automatix in here
[01:23] <mneptok> nickxydas: please ignore that URL and do not use Automatix
[01:24] <ardchoille> !automatix | mdh__
[01:24] <ubotu> mdh__: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:24] <ul1024k> ok, ardchoille
[01:24] <ardchoille> !automatix | nickxydas
[01:24] <ubotu> nickxydas: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:24] <ul1024k> thanks
[01:24] <mdh__> sorry ardchoille
[01:24] <geckino> it see only wit /boot BinLib
[01:24] <unop> ardchoille,  it's not a good idea to suggest automatix -- it breaks more than it fixes
[01:24] <geckino> *with
[01:24] <jmspeex> Apt wants me to remove packages linux-generic and linux-restricted-modules-generic. Any idea why?
[01:25] <ardchoille> unop: You didn't read my post, obviously :)
[01:25] <nickxydas> what do you guys reccomend for installng software then?  synaptic?
[01:25] <unop> geckino,  maybe you do want /boot.*$ really
[01:25] <mdh__> nickxydas: apt-get comes with the system for free
[01:25] <lpf> how do you uninstall Automatix ?
[01:25] <jrib> nickxydas: synaptic, apt-get, aptitude
[01:25] <mdh__> nickxydas: the ubuntu forums recommend aptitude though
[01:25] <unop> ardchoille,  ahh yea, stupid me, obviously :)
[01:25] <nickxydas> i do not know what what apt-get is
[01:25] <nickxydas> just synaptic i am a newbie
[01:25] <mneptok> nickxydas: apt-get, aptitude, Synaptic, Adept ....
[01:25] <jrib> !apt | nickxydas
[01:25] <ubotu> nickxydas: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:26] <geckino> changed: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-server
[01:26] <wamty_> Is it a bad idea to install an alpha3 release of a newer os than it is to keep a much older version? 	Im talking about Ubuntu alfa 7,4 over ubuntu 5.10
[01:26] <geckino> with /boot BinLib option it see
[01:26] <geckino> done!
[01:26] <nickxydas> when i did the updates after ubuntu installed it said something couldn't be updated because something would have to be unistalled and it said to go into synaptic and mark all upgrades  did that but then i didn't know what to do i dind't see a buttoton for apply or install
[01:26] <geckino> :D
[01:26] <edward_> Hello
[01:26] <edward_> Anybody here?
[01:26] <edward_> ...
[01:27] <mandrill> Now I can see my SATA drives :) I'd like to make them readable and writeable from another machine on my network which is running windows. is that possible?
[01:27] <jrib> edward_: yes, many people
[01:27] <wamty_> anyone?
[01:28] <edward_> Wow talk about lag
[01:28] <jrib> wamty_: why don't you install a stable version?
[01:28] <nickxydas> thanks for the links guys i will check them out
[01:28] <yommb> wamty : I wouldn't install an Alpha on a production machine or server or anything that has important data or services on it ...
[01:28] <mdh__> wamty_: is it a bad idea to chase 8 yr olds instead of your current wife?
[01:28] <unop> mandrill, sure -- you need to configure !samba for that
[01:29] <xopher> mdh__, might be yes
[01:29] <mandrill> ah, samba. I've heard of that. is is in ubuntu as std?
[01:29] <yommb> wamty : but iof you are experimenting on a home machine , go for the 7 alpha .. it's nice :)
[01:29] <edward_> How do I dissabel jpoin and leave messages? Im using Xchat... thanks
[01:29] <Martyo> Is it feasable to use ubuntu on a usb flash drive 8 hours a day at work and then 2-3 hours in the evening?
[01:29] <Martyo> or is the usb drive likely to die from all that use?
[01:30] <nickxydas> i tried downlaoading the newest version of the chirsitan vesion of ubuntu bc i gave away the version ihave to my preist and it didn't work i downloaded the iso twice and burned it twice i started to download the stable version and i decided to give up and just install the regular version since i ordered five copeis from the company
[01:30] <mackinac> edward_, right click on the chan tab
[01:30] <unop> mandrill, the server, i dont think so -- to check if its installed - dpkg -l samba
[01:30] <nickxydas> maybe only the dapper version of christian edition works on my computer
[01:30] <nickxydas> because the edgy version of the christian edition wouldn't boot for some reason
[01:30] <edward_> There are no tabs?
[01:30] <yommb> Martyo : i love usb flasherrs & pen & sticks , the thing is , a lot of mine died .. so beware if you store critcal data on it .. make sure u have a backup !
[01:31] <Martyo> yommb: how long did they last and how much did you use it?
[01:31] <unop> Martyo,  they reckon flash storage can be overwritten some 500,000 to 10,000,000 times before giving up -- so, there's another thing to consider :)
[01:31] <black_13> what is casper
[01:31] <mackinac> edward_,  ... a tree then that list the chans you're on?
[01:31] <nickxydas> so how do i access aptitude
[01:31] <nickxydas> and how can i switch from gnome to kde in ubuntu?
[01:31] <linux1> hiya ppl ive install a new kernel and i didnt show up in grub how do i fix this ((sudo update-grub or sudo update-initramfs -u)
[01:32] <linux1> or both
[01:32] <black_13> !casper
[01:32] <ubotu> casper: Run a "live" preinstalled system from read-only media. In component main, is extra. Version 1.78 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 236 kB
[01:32] <jrib> !kde | nickxydas
[01:32] <ubotu> nickxydas: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[01:32] <yommb> Martyo : it differed , some a lot some not that much , I had 3 dead usb flash disks ( without physical abuse like dropping etc .. ) die the last 3 years
[01:32] <jrib> nickxydas: did you read the guide about apt-get that ubotu sent you before?
[01:32] <edward_> OK I must be missing something here
[01:32] <mandrill> hmm. bbl have to feed the baby.
[01:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> !aptitide
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptitide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <nickxydas> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[01:33] <nickxydas> this one?
[01:33] <spinax>
[01:33] <yommb> MArtyo : I wouldnt worryt too much , just make backups :)
[01:33] <gOLdenHaWK3D> !apt
[01:33] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:33] <unop> nickxydas,  when you login to KDE at the login screen you are asked if you want to remember that change .. if you answer yes there you make a permanent switch and make KDE the default DE
[01:33] <Martyo> yommb: ok, thanks :)
[01:33] <jrib> nickxydas: right
[01:33] <yommb> Martyo : after all , they're made for it , right ?
[01:37] <Martyo> yommb: I wasn't sure; the USB drive I've just ordered states it will perform 10 million rewrites before it dies but I wasn't sure how many rewrites ubuntu is likely to do
[01:37] <KomiaPoika> can anyone help me, i got a PowerVault 110T tape drive i need to get working in ubuntu 6.10, i can see the device in proc/scsci/scsi, but i don't have the st0 in /dev ... anyone has experience with this?
[01:38] <yommb> martyo : i'm not familiar with those figures , it does seem like a lot ! , How does this compare to , let's say an average hard disk ? any idea ?
[01:39] <Martyo> yommb: good question, I'll see what I can find on google
[01:43] <wamty_> alfa 3 should be stabler than 5.10?
[01:43] <jrib> wamty_: no
[01:43] <strav> hi there... I'm having a small problem with my router/linux configuration. Actually, I have a linksys BEFR41 v.2 that's accessing the net via pppoe (so far so good, the connection is fine). Now, the router serves as a gateway at ip <IP_ADDRESS> and offers 50 ip from <IP_ADDRESS>. When I look at my dhcp tables, I can indeed see my client that's connected (beside of a weird hostname). Now, when I try to ping google or my nameservers, e
[01:43] <strav> verything is fine while a traceroute or any http request return no result... anyone can provide a hand on that?
[01:44] <jrib> wamty_: if you want something more recent than 5.10 that is stable use 6.06 or 6.10
[01:45] <Akuma_> i've just recieved kernel update notifications but cant select them all. is that normal or did i screw something up?
[01:45] <H0lyD4wg> apt-cache and dpkg -S find results for "quodlibet" but when i try to "apt-get install quodlibet" it tells me "E: Couldn't find package qoudlibet". why does this happen?
[01:45] <wamty_> jrib: 6.10 wont install
[01:45] <jrib> H0lyD4wg: you spelled it wrong the last time
[01:45] <screechingcat> I am trying to get the lastest fiesty installed on my computer but the live cd's partitioner says no devices found. i get the same error on an edgy live cd. opensuse is able to recognize it and install on it
[01:45] <jrib> wamty_: will 6.06?
[01:46] <wamty_> jrib: i dont know but alfa 3 is on its way
[01:46] <jrib> screechingcat: #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[01:46] <H0lyD4wg> jrib, thanks
[01:46] <screechingcat> jrib: this isnt a feisty specific question. ANY ubuntu live cd is not able to "detect devices"
[01:47] <jrib> screechingcat: k, then say that :)
[01:47] <jrib> screechingcat: erm I didn't read, sorry.  I tend to read first lines
[01:48] <jrib> screechingcat: what chipset on the mobo?
[01:48] <screechingcat> jrib:  its an Intel D845
[01:49] <r_rehashed> hello everybody :)
[01:49] <jrib> wamty_: that's fine, just realize it's a development release and shouldn't be used on systems that you need to use daily without problems
[01:49] <wamty_> when i try to install 6.10 it boots from the cd..., the menu appears i click on load/install ubuntu....,and just before the active desktop splashscreen displays it gives me an error
[01:49] <wamty_> error is something about expecting a null value with the a huh? thrown in there
[01:49] <screechingcat> jrib: i have installed (and crahsed and so removed and reinstalled) ubuntu several times on this machine. so its not a problem of unsupported hardware.
[01:50] <screechingcat> jrib: i get 2 options - erase entire disk and install or manually partition. when i hit manually partition, it says "no devices detected"
[01:51] <r_rehashed> intel's drivers for it's graphics cards Open Source, right? does intel provide closed source binary drivers for its chipsets too?
[01:51] <jrib> screechingcat: do you mean the installer crashed?
[01:51] <wamty_> with ubuntu 5.10  you cant change ur passwords using the gui method. (it's ment to let you)
[01:51] <wamty_> im hopeing they've solved that bug by this version
[01:51] <r_rehashed> ...cards are* Open Source...
[01:52] <screechingcat> jrib: nop., i also ran gparted seperately and i got the same message
[01:52] <jrib> screechingcat: what crashed exactly?
[01:53] <screechingcat> jrib: it did not crash.
[01:53] <jrib> screechingcat: what did you mean by " i have installed (and crahsed and so removed and reinstalled)"
[01:54] <screechingcat> jrib: just that i've installed and used Ubuntu many times vefore on this computer
[01:54] <screechingcat> jrib: *before
[01:54] <jrib> screechingcat: using the livecd?
[01:55] <jrib> screechingcat: have you tried the alternate cd?
[01:55] <screechingcat> jrib: yes and no
[01:55] <jrib> screechingcat: give the alternate a try
[01:55] <screechingcat> jrib: i have terrible download speeds and downloading another 700 mb is going to be terrible. no other solution
[01:55] <screechingcat> ?
[01:57] <jrib> screechingcat: what kind of video card do you have?
[01:57] <mightynigel> hello
[01:58] <r_rehashed> mightynigel:hello
[01:58] <carl> hello
[01:58] <jrib> screechingcat: or do you get into X ok and teh error happens after you click on the "install ubuntu" icon?
[01:58] <carl> mightynigel, what's up ?
[01:58] <screechingcat> jrib: integrated Intel 845. but what does that have to do with a hard disk not being detected
[01:58] <mightynigel> I'm installing Ubuntu now, looks great.  Just thought I would pop in and say hello to everyone
[01:58] <kenthomson> hello
[01:58] <kenthomson> !hi
[01:58] <screechingcat> jrib: nope. the LiveCD is perfect. Using Kopete on it right now
[01:58] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:59] <mightynigel> :-)
[01:59] <lpf> hello
[01:59] <kenthomson> mightynigel, thats because you would be joining us often if you are going to install it :)
[01:59] <carl> mightynigel, how are you installing ubuntu if you are here =
[01:59] <carl> ?
[01:59] <kenthomson> mightynigel, good luck, gather your might, you are going to need it :)
[01:59] <MarcoPau> anybody suggests an ape/cue decompressor?
[01:59] <kenthomson> carl, people can have two computers or laptop
[01:59] <sdac221x_> hi,  is there a way to restard the sound system in edgy ?  Sound seems to disappear sometimes and it requires rebooting for sound to come back.   I have alsamixer installed if that matters.
[01:59] <jrib> screechingcat: heh "no devices detected" happens to be the same error you get when X fails to start
[02:00] <Thialfihar> Hallo.
[02:00] <carl> kenthomson, sorry jajaja
[02:00] <jrib> screechingcat: so searching for it turns up a bunch of useless stuff abotu vid cards :/
[02:00] <screechingcat> jrib:  ahh
[02:00] <mightynigel> Unfortunately a number of applications I use (mostly video editing) require windows.
[02:00] <kenthomson> careo, whats jajaja
[02:00] <screechingcat> jrib: so i should prolly try the Alt CD eh ?
[02:01] <Thialfihar> I'm on Edgy and have troubles burning CDs... the writer is recognized and all, but blank CDs never are.
[02:01] <kenthomson> mightynigel, unfortunately all the applications that people use all over the world (disregarding the 1%linux/mac users) require windows, so we are all on the same boat :)
[02:01] <r_rehashed> mightynigel: maybe ubuntu studio is for you
[02:01] <jrib> screechingcat: https://launchpad.net/gparted/+bug/66676
[02:01] <felixhummel> !updaterc
[02:01] <kenthomson> r_rehashed, thats a new one, could you expand
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updaterc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <felixhummel> !updaterc.d
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updaterc.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <Thialfihar> nautilus-cd-burner/list_cddrives spits out this:  label:                '';  type:                 Unknown Media (blank);  is writable:          FALSE;  is appendable:        FALSE;  capacity:             Could not be determined;   size:                 0.00 MiB
[02:02] <r_rehashed> I just read about on ubuntu's site. wait I'll get the link
[02:02] <kenthomson> Sorry, i don't know anything about anything - try searching http://www.google.com
[02:02] <rpereira> Hi...
[02:02] <kenthomson> r_rehashed, that would be great
[02:02] <kenthomson> !hi
[02:02] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:02] <kenthomson> HI! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:02] <careo> kenthomson: ?
[02:03] <rpereira> Does someone knows how to create a Ubuntu in a usbkey?
[02:03] <elkbuntu> !botabuse | kenthomson
[02:03] <ubotu> kenthomson: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:03] <r_rehashed> now, my brethren! hold your breath and check this out http://ubuntustudio.org/  :)
[02:03] <rpereira> A LiveUsbKey
[02:03] <CrakeHunter> hello, id dapper drake (32bit) noticably more stable than feisty?
[02:03] <careo> kenthomson: ahh I see the tab-complete gone awry.
[02:03] <kenthomson> elkbuntu, do that bots have some relation with ops, how can a bot have any feelings and ops any personal attatchment with it
[02:03] <CrakeHunter> id = is
[02:04] <carl> ubuntu dapper rockss
[02:04] <auTONYmous> Whos using Feisty here?
[02:04] <mightynigel> The website looks pretty... Got that Mac feel to it
[02:04] <screechingcat> jrib: the last cpost says it got fixed in the edgy release. looks like i'll have to correct that misconception.
[02:04] <screechingcat> auTONYmous: im trying to
[02:04] <CrakeHunter> me , and gaim for example crashes regularly
[02:04] <ardchoille> auTONYmous: /join #ubuntu+1
[02:04] <jrib> auTONYmous: #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[02:04] <auTONYmous> thanks
[02:05] <NotWired> I seem to have a couple of component upgrade problems... it says linux-image-686 is upgradeable but when I try to upgrade it I get a message saying it dependes on linux-image-2.6.15-28-686 but is not installable... any ideas?
[02:05] <CrakeHunter> so dapper is more stable... thanks; btw the graphical theme of ubuntu is unmatched
[02:06] <r_rehashed> I think all those OSS developers with a taste for Art, Music will get together and put their Art in ubuntu studio
[02:06] <ardchoille> Why did the package manager break some packages?
[02:06] <r_rehashed> to make it a great distro for multimedia work :)
[02:07] <jatt> today the update manager wants to upgrade the linux kernel why? Furthermore it says it cannot install all available updates.
[02:08] <NotWired> I seem to have a couple of component upgrade problems... it says linux-image-686 is upgradeable but when I try to upgrade it I get a message saying it dependes on linux-image-2.6.15-28-686 but is not installable... any ideas?
[02:08] <jrib> screechingcat: well here's where we are at.  I don't really know why your install is failing.  There might be some way to make the livecd detect your drive but I don't know it.  So the alternate cd might be worth a try but it's not a guaranteed solution
[02:08] <jatt> it says: "Some updates require the removal of further software. Use the function "Mark All Upgrades" of the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal to update your system completely."
[02:08] <jatt> it looks dangerous to upgrade isn't it?
[02:08] <jatt> I am running dapper
[02:09] <speartim> i have updated 6 systems so from dapper to edgy
[02:09] <speartim> no issues when i do it command line
[02:09] <screechingcat> jrib: so i might just download another 700mb and still have nothing to show for it ?
[02:09] <mackinac> NotWired, jatt: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408
[02:09] <NotWired> thankx mackinac
[02:09] <speartim> when i did one via the adept gui. the system was corrupted
[02:09] <gOLdenHaWK3D> is there any i686 ubuntu, i have installed i386, but i have a pentium 4 processor! i was just wondering!!!
[02:10] <jatt> mackinac: thanks it seems the problem is not only on edgy but also in dapper.
[02:10] <Thialfihar> Guess it's only an issue with nautilus. eroaster works fine.
[02:10] <jrib> screechingcat: yes, possibly.  You can try the mailing list or this room again later of course.  Someone else probably knows something.  I would just leave the alt cd overnight and try it anyway
[02:10] <jimmie> hmm.. when i login as ROOT i can't find nuthing in the D:
[02:11] <Thialfihar> Very well, just gonna use that, then. :)
[02:11] <jrib> jimmie: you can't find anything in the sad smiley?
[02:11] <jimmie> but then i login as another user the i can se the files but i cant move them
[02:11] <jatt> I will leave it alone, don't want to break my machine
[02:11] <ardchoille> Ok, everyone, seems there is a bug report for the latest kernel problems in Dapper and Edgy: https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976
[02:12] <jimmie> i want to move some stuff from the home folder to the D:
[02:12] <jrib> jimmie: what is D:?
[02:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> so, no i686 ubuntu?
[02:12] <jimmie> media.. partition
[02:12] <jimmie> its NTSF
[02:12] <jimmie> hdd
[02:12] <screechingcat> jrib: thanks for the help
[02:12] <jimmie> you know now? :)
[02:13] <jimmie> to move the files from the home directory i need to be root
[02:13] <gOLdenHaWK3D> so, no i686 ubuntu? plz tell
[02:13] <jrib> jimmie: don't refer to it as "D:", that's a windowism.  In linux you just mount partitions somewhere.  Writing to ntfs requires some extra work since it is still "experimental"
[02:13] <jrib> !ntfs-3g | jimmie
[02:13] <ubotu> jimmie: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:14] <jimmie> ahh
[02:14] <jrib> !fuse | jimmie
[02:14] <ubotu> jimmie: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:14] <gOLdenHaWK3D> !i686
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i686 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <gOLdenHaWK3D> !ubuntu
[02:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[02:14] <jimmie> hmm
[02:14] <jatt> From the bug reports I don't get which was the reason for that upgrade... what it was intended to fix?
[02:15] <gOLdenHaWK3D> how can i make my ubuntu i686?
[02:15] <jatt> kernel security bug?
[02:15] <jimmie> well well
[02:15] <jimmie> ill throw it all in the trash can insteed
[02:15] <r_rehashed> gOLdenHaWK3D: you can recompile the kernel, if you wish
[02:15] <jrib> screechingcat: np, hope you figure it out
[02:15] <r_rehashed> with optimisations for p4
[02:15] <jimmie> and take what i got in the other partitions
[02:16] <gOLdenHaWK3D> r_rehashed, ok. no other way? like we get a i386 ubuntu, cant we get a i686 ununtu?
[02:16] <gOLdenHaWK3D> *ubuntu
[02:16] <jimmie> why cant i find the linux partition in winxp?
[02:16] <jrib> !ext3 | jimmie
[02:16] <ubotu> jimmie: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[02:17] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jimmie, lolz, cuz there is no linux file system support in Win xp!!!
[02:17] <jimmie> isn't it esier to move the files from the linux partition in win?
[02:17] <jrib> jimmie: yeah, just use fs-driver to see the linux partition in windows
[02:17] <carl> does someone know about this problem ?? : when my laptop complete charge battery 100% and I want to disconnec it, the screens get dark and the system get crash, i can not raise it again.
[02:17] <screechingcat> gOLdenHaWK3D: there is. Its called NTFS 3g. Perfect read/write support. still in BEta though
[02:17] <jimmie> fs-driver? do i install it in win?
[02:18] <jrib> jimmie: yes
[02:18] <gOLdenHaWK3D> screechingcat, he was talking about linux support FROM windoze!!!
[02:18] <IdleOne> !in fs-driver
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about in fs-driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <Roadrunner1985> !mp3
[02:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:18] <IdleOne> !info fs-driver
[02:18] <ubotu> Package fs-driver does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[02:18] <gOLdenHaWK3D> !info i686
[02:18] <screechingcat> gOLdenHaWK3D: oops. my mistake
[02:18] <ubotu> Package i686 does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[02:18] <gOLdenHaWK3D> screechingcat, np
[02:18] <jrib> !fishing | gOLdenHaWK3D
[02:18] <ubotu> gOLdenHaWK3D: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:19] <gOLdenHaWK3D> :(
[02:19] <gOLdenHaWK3D> i was just investigating about i686. i want to fully utilize my hardware! i am using a i386 ubuntu!!!
[02:19] <jimmie> thanx for the help jrib
[02:20] <lpf> Cheers, I think Ubuntu is the best I have no problems
[02:20] <jrib> gOLdenHaWK3D: use the -generic kernel
[02:20] <gOLdenHaWK3D> lpf, me too!!!
[02:20] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, i installed with generic kernel
[02:21] <jrib> gOLdenHaWK3D: then you are set
[02:21] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, but still it shows i386
[02:21] <lpf> Using Dapper for about 5 Months now, is good
[02:21] <screechingcat> gOLdenHaWK3D: if you are running the -generic kernel you have full support for i686, hyperthreading, dual core and whatever else INtel can dream up
[02:21] <jrib> gOLdenHaWK3D: what does uname -a  say?
[02:21] <mackinac> !generic | gOLdenHaWK3D
[02:21] <ubotu> gOLdenHaWK3D: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[02:22] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:22] <jrib> gOLdenHaWK3D: you aren't running the generic kernel
[02:22] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, are you sure?
[02:22] <jrib> 2.6.17-10-386
[02:22] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, cuz i did a generic install? (though i am beginning to doubt myself now)
[02:23] <jrib> doesn't generic say 2.6.17-10-generic?
[02:23] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, thats what i was saying!!!
[02:23] <jrib> gOLdenHaWK3D: you have to make sure you choose that at the grub menu
[02:23] <Pici> jrib: yes, it does
[02:23] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, oh! do we have a choice? i mean how many kernels are installed during install time?
[02:24] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, can i change it now?
[02:24] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, without a reinstall?
[02:24] <screechingcat> gOLdenHaWK3D: "The difference in performance between -386 and -686 is insigificant; the measurements are all within a reasonable error range, and within that range, -686 was slower as often as it was faster."
[02:25] <gOLdenHaWK3D> screechingcat, oh! then using i386 is good?
[02:25] <Pici> gOLdenHaWK3D: You can, but anything you compiled from source may not work at all if it needed the kernel headers to compile
[02:25] <screechingcat> gOLdenHaWK3D: just stick with the -generic one. its the best of the lot on edgy
[02:25] <lastman> How can I choose another mediaplayer than totem in firefox? Totem is always be opened by default!
[02:26] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Pici, yes, this i dont want. this is the reason i was asking if there is a precompiled i686 kernel by Canonical?
[02:26] <jrib> gOLdenHaWK3D: at the grub menu when you boot, all of your kernels are listed
[02:26] <r_rehashed> lastman: right-click on the file>properties>open with
[02:26] <mackinac> lastman: check out the MediaPlayerConnectivity extension for firefox
[02:26] <mandrill> right. I'm trying to share two NTFS drives installed in my ubuntu machine with my windows machine over a network. when I go through the menus (system->administration->shared folders I'm told that I need to install Samba or NFS to share folders. I untick the NFS box (I don't have any other linux machines) and leave the SMB box ticked and hit the 'install services' button, The dialogue box simply re-appears with the same message. does this mean I'm missin
[02:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, i dont have any i686 in my grub menu!!!
[02:27] <jrib> gOLdenHaWK3D: generic
[02:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, no generic!!!
[02:27] <jrib> gOLdenHaWK3D: do you have linux-image-generic installed?
[02:27] <ul1024k> hey, I just tried to start with ubuntu but I couldn't, so I tried recovery mode ( or whatever ) and it told me it couldn't find DSDT... anyone can help?
[02:27] <daviey> Is there another command for halt that doesn't require sudo?  Or how can i allow any user to 'halt'
[02:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, no
[02:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, shall i apt-get it now?
[02:28] <r_rehashed> does this mean that on gOLdenHaWK3D's comp. Ubuntu's installed the 686 version of the kernel?
[02:28] <Math^> hello, ive got a strange problem with mozilla-thunderbird
[02:28] <r_rehashed> by auto-detecting the processor/
[02:29] <Math^> i cant read my messages, the program shuts down it self
[02:29] <Pici> gOLdenHaWK3D: What version of Ubuntu are you running, and is this an upgrade or fresh install?
[02:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> r_rehashed, it cant be!
[02:29] <Math^> when I click on a message it crashes
[02:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Pici, i am running a fresh install of Edgy Eft
[02:29] <Pici> hmm
[02:29] <r_rehashed> gOLdenHaWK3D: why?
[02:30] <gOLdenHaWK3D> r_rehashed, cant say! cuz i installed it twice! maybe the 2nd time i selected i386!
[02:30] <jrib> gOLdenHaWK3D: yeah, apt-get it if you want -generic
[02:30] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, thanx
[02:31] <saftsack> hi
[02:31] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, getting it!
[02:31] <welostt> org
[02:31] <r_rehashed> gOLdenHaWK3D: uname - a shows 686 right?
[02:31] <Pici> jrib: Was the kernel issue from yesterday fixed?  I havent been really around since then
[02:31] <saftsack> i have ubuntu 6.10. in the future when the next release is available will there be an option to simply upgrade the system?
[02:31] <gOLdenHaWK3D> r_rehashed, Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:31] <r_rehashed> I am confused!
[02:31] <r_rehashed> ok
[02:31] <gOLdenHaWK3D> r_rehashed, it shows this
[02:31] <jrib> Pici: I've seen a few people in the past hour still pop in with the question
[02:31] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:32] <yommb> I installed Ubuntu Edgy , with a command line install , & a minimal xorg setup ..everything's working fine , I just want to know how I can save my sessions !
[02:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yommb, how u did this?
[02:32] <yommb> gold : what u mean ?
[02:33] <mackinac> lol
[02:33] <yommb> just with the alt cd
[02:33] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yommb, i mean how u installed it in command mode!!!
[02:33] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yommb, ohh! i got it!
[02:33] <yommb> :)
[02:34] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, so generic is i686!!! i was so dumb t install it with i386!!!
[02:34] <tido> why does all of these open source folks think beer is free :(
[02:34] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, lol
[02:34] <gOLdenHaWK3D> tido, u r right! lol
[02:34] <gOLdenHaWK3D> tido, beer is not free!!!
[02:34] <tido> can we get some true GNU Beer?
[02:35] <gOLdenHaWK3D> tido, lol
[02:35] <tido> so it's free, but I can't call it Tido Beer
[02:35] <r_rehashed> hahaha
[02:35] <Pici> tido : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_as_in_beer | also this is a subject for #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:35] <bobd>   /quit
[02:36] <Raeth> Is there an app that will check a disc/partition for errors?
[02:36] <valehru> does anyone know how I can use chmod recursively on an ftp console in ubuntu?
[02:36] <Raeth> A FAT32 one to be specific
[02:37] <Pici> Raeth: I believe fsck can do that
[02:37] <mackinac> gui?
[02:37] <valehru> console
[02:37] <icheyne> valehru, can't you do that with SSH?
[02:37] <valehru> don't have ssh access..
[02:38] <valehru> its to a remote webserver
[02:38] <icheyne> AH
[02:38] <lastman> What about audacious for ubuntu??????
[02:38] <valehru> or ftp server I should say....only ftp access.
[02:38] <White-Paws> Hi everybody!
[02:38] <valehru> normally in ssh it would be sudo chmod -R 777 /thisdirplease/
[02:39] <valehru> what would it be in FTP?
[02:39] <icheyne> don't think you can do it in FTP
[02:39] <icheyne> type help into the command line
[02:39] <icheyne> that's what you've got
[02:39] <White-Paws> I got a problem with a kernel... Hope that anyone can help me a bit...
[02:39] <erUSUL> valehru: you can not do this in FTP as ichayne points out
[02:39] <icheyne> maybe sftp
[02:39] <valehru> icheyne, thanks
[02:40] <icheyne> valehru, np
[02:40] <mandrill> whats the simplest way to install samba server?
[02:40] <White-Paws> Linux-image-generic won't update to it's latest version.
[02:40] <White-Paws> Gives me the following error:
[02:41] <White-Paws> linux-image-generic:
[02:41] <White-Paws>  Depends: linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic  but it is not installable
[02:41] <erUSUL> !samba | mandrill
[02:41] <ubotu> mandrill: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:41] <Raeth> I run "fsck.vfat /media/STUFF2" and it says "Read 512 bytes at 0:Is a directory"
[02:41] <lexko> How do I get SMP support for Edgy? I thought it was supposed to be on by default? Anyways, I've since tried installing linux-686-smp, which didn't successfully go through, but now I can't even install linux-generic, because it says -image- and restricted-modules aren't going to be installed....Im kind of stuck. any thoughts?
[02:41] <erUSUL> White-Paws: known error I filed a bug report
[02:41] <White-Paws> Oh Thanks
[02:42] <White-Paws> ok
[02:42] <jrib> erUSUL: what's the bug number?
[02:42] <White-Paws> Must go now. BRB (in a few hours)
[02:42] <White-Paws> away*
[02:42] <mackinac> 83976 ?
[02:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yommb, is there any handbook for installing Ubuntu in command mode?
[02:43] <Shironeko|away> Whaaat? Someone Owns my nickname? O.o
[02:43] <hbaigu> Raeth, you have to umount the partition first, the run fsck in the  /dev/partition
[02:43] <Shironeko|away> well, anyways, se you later
[02:43] <erUSUL> jrib: i filed the bug report but later i tried to find it and i can't (my karma shows a bug report filed today do not know what happened)
[02:43] <Raeth> hbaigu: Gotcha
[02:43] <erUSUL> jrib: short answer i do not know
[02:44] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Is there any handbook for installing Ubuntu in command mode?
[02:44] <Raeth> The reason I'm doing it is because I'm trying to copy a 4.2 GB file to the external drive and Nautilus crashes part-way through.
[02:44] <IdleOne> gOLdenHaWK3D: you can download the Alternate CD
[02:44] <jrib> erUSUL, mackinac: 83976 seems to be relevant, thanks
[02:44] <erUSUL> jrib: here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/84174
[02:44] <gOLdenHaWK3D> IdleOne, i have done it already, but it runs ncurses based installer
[02:44] <erUSUL> jrib: yes mine is marked now as duplicated of that bug
[02:45] <mackinac> !server | gOLdenHaWK3D
[02:45] <ubotu> gOLdenHaWK3D: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[02:46] <gOLdenHaWK3D> mackinac, thanx. will try it out soon
[02:51] <Sebbri9104> can anybody help me with how to install various programs
[02:51] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Sebbri9104, what do u wanna install?
[02:52] <Sebbri9104> like the new Firefox version
[02:52] <Sebbri9104> how do i do??
[02:53] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Sebbri9104, Open Firefox. Click Help>Check for Updates
[02:53] <jrib> Sebbri9104: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:54] <gha> hoi,test
[02:55] <Sebbri9104> 6.10
[02:55] <slacker_nl> lo
[02:55] <slacker_nl> newsyslog guru's available?
[02:55] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Sebbri9104, run this command in terminal  --> sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:56] <Sebbri9104> thx
[03:01] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, hey! i have the generic kernel in my /boot now! and apt-get automatically upgraded my menu.lst!!! is it fine? shall i reboot into the new kernel?
[03:01] <StFS> hello... is there some problem with kernel package dependencies atm?
[03:01] <Peacer> hello
[03:01] <jrib> gOLdenHaWK3D: yep
[03:01] <mandrill> !samba doesn't work, neither does apt-get install samba
[03:01] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2836 kB, installed size 7200 kB
[03:01] <Peacer> mandrillsudo apt-get update
[03:01] <erUSUL> StFS: yes, is a known bug
[03:01] <Supre_Me> Hello. When I start Gimp my X crash and I have to relogg again, I don't have no clue why and I haven't changed anything that I know could have to do with Gimp. I tried to reinstall it too, (sudo apt-get remove gimp and then install again).
[03:01] <StFS> erUSUL: ok thanks
[03:02] <mandrill> tnx peacer
[03:02] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, ok
[03:02] <gOLdenHaWK3D> jrib, rebooting!!!
[03:02] <StFS> erUSUL: do you know if there is some place where I can track the progress of fixing it (and/or see what the actual problem is)?
[03:02] <erUSUL> StFS: https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976
[03:02] <StFS> erUSUL: thanks again
[03:03] <erUSUL> StFS: no problem
[03:03] <Peacer> anyway, got a problem... I'm trying to dualboot... so I resized my partition to free up 5 gb for windoez... Had to delete this windoez and reinstall windoez... but can't boot anything, and can't find my previvious linux boot
[03:03] <Peacer> so a friend told me to use grub...
[03:03] <fiXXXerMet> I need some help with a data recovery.  I had a software raid 1.  Power went out, one drive got damaged, so I can't boot.  I kept the two drives plugged in (each 80GB), and connected 2 200GBs, and booted to the live CD.  Is there any way I can copy the data over?
[03:03] <Peacer> but I can't figure it out :S
[03:03] <mackinac> !grub
[03:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:03] <mandrill> brilliant. I understand now. apt-get is like windows update but without the hassle
[03:04] <Peacer> mandrill and without an annoying message telling you to update every five minute :p
[03:04] <frogzoo> mandrill: ah, well no not really
[03:05] <mandrill> close enough though for my brain, which has only just discovered the wonders of linux