[06:47] <ubotu> `KoRn might have some details: Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[06:47] <h00k> Frederick: System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[06:48] <h00k> Frederick: Font tab
[06:48] <test_user_btx> exit
[06:48] <`KoRn> nickrud: thnx
[06:48] <mathew> Anybody happen to have a copy of prey?  I need to know what the file structure is.  One of my disks got damaged, and I need to know where i need to put the files from the other disks.
[06:48] <Frederick> h00k: sorry im in kubuntu wrong channel :/
[06:49] <test_user_btx> nope :(
[06:49] <h00k> Frederick: no prob.  Good luck
[06:49] <corden> guys just a quick question what burning software for ubuntu?
[06:49] <nickrud> corden gnomebaker , k3b are the most used ones
[06:50] <corden> tnx, i guess I installed does softwares already tnx.
[06:50] <fosl3e> !offtopic
[06:50] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:50] <fosl3e> !offtopic mathew
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopic mathew - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <fosl3e> !offtopic
[06:51] <fosl3e> !offtopic
[06:51] <fosl3e> !offtopic
[06:51] <FloodBot2> fosl3e: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:51] <fosl3e> ?
[06:51] <nickrud> fosl3e FloodBot2 was a warning, don't do that again.
[06:51] <sen_> ubuntu
[06:51] <doug2266778822> is there a wine channel?
[06:51] <fosl3e> dude shut up lol
[06:51] <nickrud> fosl3e behave yourself
[06:52] <fosl3e> lulz
[06:52] <mrak> hello there
[06:52]  * h00k waves
[06:52] <mrak> where i find list of changes 7.10 vs 8.04
[06:53] <mathew> It's not an off topic thing...  I'm trying to install it on ubuntu?
[06:53] <nickrud> mathew you might find some people in #ubuntu-offtopic who have that
[06:53] <doug2266778822> is there a wine room chan? for support?
[06:53] <mathew> Thank you nickrud
[06:53] <nickrud> doug2266778822 #winehq
[06:54] <doug2266778822> nickrud: thank u so much
[06:54] <mrak> doug2266778822: join to #wine
[06:54] <mrak> ;)
[06:54] <mathew> At least you didn't try to flood me with ubotu...
[06:54] <nickrud> !welcome | mathew :)
[06:54] <ubotu> mathew :): Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[06:54] <andcorps> hello
[06:54] <andcorps> everyone
[06:54] <andcorps> need to know 1 single fact
[06:55] <zerlneo> good day guys, i just want to ask if you can use/install beryl w/o net connection?
[06:55] <doug2266778822> mrak: thank u as well
[06:55] <nickrud> !beryl | zerlneo
[06:55] <ubotu> zerlneo: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[06:55] <mrak> doug2266778822: np
[06:55] <andcorps> does 7D the archive manager really works in ubuntu
[06:55] <zerlneo> so how can i use compiz-fusion w/o net connection/
[06:55] <mrak> !help
[06:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:55] <zerlneo> ?
[06:56] <nickrud> zerlneo if you have 7.10, compiz is already installed
[06:56] <crdlb> zerlneo: what video card?
[06:56] <zerlneo> yes its alreay installed but the effects are limited
[06:56] <zerlneo> i can run the cube
[06:56] <andcorps> just need to install the extra plugin if u graphic cards are capable
[06:57] <andcorps> u have to download some from the web
[06:57] <andcorps> but i also doesnt know how to run in on my lappy
[06:57] <zerlneo> can i get some link here?
[06:57] <andcorps> hahha
[06:57] <DanikarPN> zerlneo: There is a compiz-config or some such package in Synaptic
[06:57] <crdlb> zerlneo: you need compizconfig-settings-manager, but it's not on the cd
[06:57] <shthap3ns> hello everyone! i'm curious: i'm setting up a local storage server for a business. i'm thinking linux would be a good choice (for stability). problem is, i'm sort of a linux n00b. can anyone point me to good documentation on setting up firewalls, shared network drives, and setting up raid on hard drives?
[06:57] <mrak> !search heron
[06:57] <ubotu> Found: hardy, heron, schedule-#ubuntu+1, final, khardy
[06:57] <nickrud> crdlb is python-compiz on the disk? (don't have one to check)
[06:58] <crdlb> nickrud: python-compizconfig is in universe, so no
[06:58] <nickrud> crdlb so he needs that as well then
[06:58] <crdlb> yes
[06:58] <zerlneo> crdlb, my problem is i dont have a net connection to my house... so i cant update them... thats why im asking if is it possible to use compiz fusion w/o net
[06:59] <andcorps> hmmm..need to know how to install the extra plugins..
[06:59] <zerlneo> il just download here in cafe station then save it in my flash drive
[06:59] <nickrud> zerlneo packages.ubuntu.com, you can search for those two packages and download them on another machine (make sure you get the ones for your machine architecture) and install them
[06:59] <crdlb> zerlneo: you can't go to a neighbor's house and put two .deb packages on a cd?
[06:59] <andcorps> did d load the tar balls..
[06:59] <chronos> Is it possible for me to see my saved passwords in Gnome?
[07:00] <andcorps> but doesnt know how to operate them..sorry but i'm new with all this scripting
[07:00] <tokayla> im getting massive iowait problems often stoping me from even sshing into my box.. but the crazy thing is the only thing running is rtorrent downloading to a 1.5tb lvm partion... on ubuntu server any ideas what the problem could be?
[07:00] <nickrud> chronos seahorse has support for that in hardy, but not in gutsy iirc
[07:00] <icanhas> j
[07:00] <chronos> Wonderful, I'm running hardy nickrud. How do I see it?
[07:00] <timsandtoms> Quick question, I'm going to reformat in a couple of days(Currently have 7.10, going to put either 7.10/8.04 and WinXP Pro on). What are the major differences between 8.04 and 7.10? Also, does it normally go *.04, *.10 for version numbers(And why does it?)
[07:01] <andcorps> so...anyone..since the topic now is more on compiz...
[07:01] <nickrud> chronos install seahorse, then run it. your passwords are on the password tab
[07:01] <crdlb> timsandtoms: the version number is the date. Year.Month
[07:01] <unop> shthap3ns, maybe this'll give you a start - it's not complete or comprehensive, but you can always extrapolate - http://howtoforge.com/perfect_server_ubuntu7.10
[07:01] <timsandtoms> crdlb: Ah, never noticed that! Thanks.
[07:01] <andcorps> hello ..
[07:02] <Samus_Aran> anyone know why /etc/init.d/pulseaudio does nothing at all ?  it just returns me to the command line, no errors
[07:02] <andcorps> how do i emulate my tar ballss
[07:02] <Samus_Aran> I mean, stop, start, restart
[07:02] <shthap3ns> unop: thanks! do you recommend i make a post on the ubuntuforums?
[07:02] <nickrud> andcorps basic compiz here, plugins not in ubuntu in #compiz-fusion :)
[07:02] <h00k> Samus_Aran: because you are actually starting, stopping, and restarting the service
[07:02] <andcorps> thanks
[07:02] <unop> shthap3ns, i'm not sure i follow, how do you mean post?
[07:02] <timsandtoms> crdlb: Do you happen to know what the differences are in the new version?
[07:03] <shthap3ns> unop: oh, i meant if i wanted to get more information, maybe a post on the forums might be better than IRC?
[07:04] <unop> shthap3ns, sure, but before you do that, you might want to point google at the ubuntu forums, there's bound to be people who have already done something like what you have done - just to avoid some duplicity
[07:04] <orudie> east coast in da house !
[07:04] <nickrud> duplicity? you don't mean the forums re duplicious do you?
[07:05] <timsandtoms> Coupla questions: What are the major differences between 7.10 and 8.04? I don't know much about Linux, but is there anything your average Joe Ipod would notice? Also, whats a good MSN messenger with webcam support(Mostly just receiving cams)
[07:05] <shthap3ns> unop: will do, thanks
[07:06] <unop> nickrud, ohh no, they're kinda well structured with all kinds of revision control, bug-trackers, etc :) j/k
[07:06] <nickrud> unop ah, you mean like the rest of the web. Ok, I'm reassured
[07:06] <h00k> timsandtoms: I use aMSN that supports camming ability
[07:07] <timsandtoms> h00k: Ah, ok, thanks :) I'll get that.
[07:07] <aronzak> Does anyone know if there is any way to mount a cryptfs file in windows?
[07:08] <unop> aronzak, not sure this is the place to ask such a question - try ##windows
[07:08] <nickrud> timsandtoms http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/804rc has some highlights
[07:10] <nickrud> unop see you thursday (I hope you don't go hide under rock :)
[07:10] <timsandtoms> nickrud: Ah, cool, thanks. So pretty much some improvements on the old stuff, but nothing drasticaly new?
[07:10] <unop> he left
[07:11] <chazco> Hi... how can I install quake 3 on 7.10?
[07:11] <doug2266778822> i know its off the wall but does anyone in here use wine with gaming?
[07:12] <Waffle> chazco,  check out wine
[07:12] <Waffle> !wine | chazco
[07:12] <ubotu> chazco: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[07:12] <chazco> Waffle - Theres a native Linux version
[07:12] <Waffle> ohh
[07:12] <Waffle> right
[07:12] <Waffle> jk
[07:12] <h00k> chazco: #winehq
[07:13] <Waffle> chazco, aptitude has quake3 arena data files, but it says you need the cd and an internet connection
[07:14] <chazco> I have the CD... will give it a try
[07:14] <Waffle> chazco, try aptitude search quake
[07:14] <Waffle> chazco, and aptitude show quake3-data
[07:15] <ecubuntu> anybody can help me with my wireless network on Hardy
[07:15] <DanikarPN> Is there a way to SSH into an open session?
[07:15] <tokayla> DanikarPN, google screen
[07:16] <tokayla> or screen + ubuntu
[07:17] <Waffle> ecubuntu, check out #ubuntu+1
[07:17] <Waffle> !hardy | ecubuntu
[07:17] <ubotu> ecubuntu: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[07:18] <DanikarPN> tokayla: Hmm, read breifly just now. Ill look into that. Thanks.
[07:19] <akorn> hey can anybody tell me how i can get my GTK theme to override emerald?
[07:19] <prohna> anyone use irssi?
[07:19] <prohna> i cant figure out how to change the color of the statusbars
[07:19] <powertool08> prohna: i do
[07:20] <phazeman> prohna: i use the irssi, but i never wanted to change the status bar color lol :)
[07:20] <prohna> you know the blue bars that show up on the top and bottom of the screen
[07:20] <prohna> i wanna make them black
[07:20] <voland> hi all
[07:20] <powertool08> prohna: i've only been using it a few days, haven't changed the colors up other than with preset themes
[07:20] <phazeman> powertool08: have you been looking on irssi.org  ?
[07:20] <prohna> for some reason themes wont change the statusbar color lol
[07:21] <powertool08> phazeman: yes
[07:22] <phazeman> powertool08: loko here http://www.irssi.org/themefiles/parenthetical.theme
[07:22] <StPatrick> Hello all!
[07:22] <powertool08> prohna: maybe you don't have the right theme?
[07:22] <ozzloy> how do i see what files were installed when i did aptitude install vim-latexsuite ?
[07:23] <jrib> ozzloy: dpkg -L, but why...?
[07:24] <sdakak> When is the release party? :-)
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> sdakak: #ubuntu-release-party
[07:24] <sdakak> tonyyarusso: thank you.
[07:25] <ozzloy> jrib: i installed vim-latexsuite and i'm reading the documentation for it online.  there should be a file ~/.vim/doc/latex-suite-quickstart.txt but there is not
[07:25] <ozzloy> jrib: so i want to see what _was_ installed
[07:25] <jrib> ozzloy: that's only if you install it to your ~ manually
[07:25] <PiONeeR> please help me!
[07:26] <ozzloy> jrib: yeah, so i want to see what did install so i can get just the stuff i need for ~
[07:26] <PiONeeR> how to install netbeans 6.0.1 on Ubuntu 7.10?
[07:26] <ozzloy> also i've never used it before, so i don't really know what i'm doing
[07:26] <ozzloy> PiONeeR: sudo aptitude install netbeans
[07:26] <sdakak> !ltsp
[07:26] <ubotu> LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project
[07:26] <ozzloy> PiONeeR: sudo aptitude install netbeans5.5
[07:27] <jrib> ozzloy: no, you don't need to do that.  Just do :he latex-suite.txt if you want to read it.  If you want to enable the addon, you should use the vim-addons command
[07:27] <PiONeeR> i'm just install netbeans, but i can't find executable program in /opt
[07:27] <ozzloy> jrib: there is no "latex-suite.txt"
[07:27] <lwizardl> hi
[07:27] <ozzloy> i don't know the vim-addons command
[07:28] <lwizardl> how can i enable dual display on my ati 9200?
[07:28] <jrib> ozzloy: did you use vim-addons?
[07:28] <ozzloy> jrib: nope.  i don't know what that is
[07:28] <phazeman> ozzloy:su to root, then #updatedb && locate latex-suite-quickstart
[07:29] <phazeman> ozzloy: this will find all the files with this name on your HD
[07:29] <jrib> ozzloy: read 'man vim-addons'
[07:29] <marvxxx> can i upgrade ubuntu from cd?
[07:30] <phazeman> oh lol.. root issues.. thought i'm in madrake :) ozzloy: sudo updatedb && locate latex-suite-quickstart
[07:30] <ozzloy> phazeman: lol, i translated.  it's going
[07:30] <EvoxVIII> hello everyone.
[07:30] <EvoxVIII> I need some help with Ubuntu 8.04
[07:31] <EvoxVIII> I know its a beta.
[07:31] <jrib> phazeman: there's no point in doing that
[07:31] <dystopianray> EvoxVIII: go to #ubuntu+1
[07:31] <phazeman> jrib: doing what ?
[07:31] <phazeman> jrib: locate ?
[07:31] <jrib> phazeman: yes
[07:31] <ozzloy> jrib: no man entry for vim-addons
[07:31] <phazeman> jrib: if he isntalled the package the file should be there. if not - sudo apt-get install vim-addons
[07:32] <jrib> ozzloy: what version of ubuntu?
[07:32] <ozzloy> 7.10
[07:32] <jrib> ozzloy: install the 'vim-addon-manager' package
[07:33] <ozzloy> why would that not be somehow linked to vim-latexsuite?  (i'm assuming at this point that v-ls falls in the category of vim-addons)
[07:33] <ozzloy> jrib: ok installed that
[07:34] <jrib> ozzloy: now run vim-addons
[07:35] <ozzloy> vim-addons install latexsuite;#ignoring unknown addon latexsuite
[07:35] <jrib> ozzloy: you need a -
[07:35] <ozzloy> icic
[07:36] <ozzloy> jrib: \0/
[07:36] <ozzloy> thanks
[07:36] <Samus_Aran> h00k: it does not say "starting blah" like with all the other services, and it does not start anything
[07:36] <Samus_Aran> e.g. if you start Apache or NFS, it tells you "restarting nfs-kernel-server. stopping, starting. done."
[07:37] <Samus_Aran> this simply exits the script
[07:37] <jrib> ozzloy: no problem, that surprised me too when it first came up
[07:37] <Samus_Aran> and doesn't produce any sound multiplexing
[07:37] <julius> Hello
[07:38] <julius> does anyone know where I can find a promotionnal "poster" (not sure of this word) for the release of hardy ?
[07:39] <Bidget> can someone help me install a program thats not in the repository?
[07:39] <dystopianray> Bidget: what program?
[07:39] <Bidget> g15daemon
[07:40] <Bidget> I have it in a tar.gz, which ive extracted, but im not sure exactly where to go from here
[07:40] <dystopianray> Bidget: do you have to compile it?
[07:40] <Bidget> hmmm
[07:40] <Bidget> good question
[07:40] <Bidget> probably
[07:41] <Bidget> oh hey theres a readme in there one sec, maybe I dont need help after all hahaha
[07:41] <jrib> Bidget: g15daemon is in hardy, just wait a day
[07:41] <Bidget> oh it is??
[07:41] <Bidget> heellls yeah
[07:42] <Bidget> cause I have all these things that I downloaded to try to get my g15 to work haha
[07:42] <Bidget> managed to install 2 of them but the other 2 were giving me errors and I couldnt figure it out
[07:43] <Bidget> onto my next question, Ive installed gnomebaker and Im wondering how to burn an mp3 cd that will work in my car cd player
[07:43] <radoen> hi all
[07:43] <snask> radeon? lol what a name
[07:44] <radoen> ehhe
[07:44] <radoen> i've trouble whit a mous on hurdy
[07:44] <jrib> radoen: hardy support in #ubuntu+1
[07:44] <radoen> in few word mouse don't work whit hurdy packager on kernel 2.6.24
[07:44] <radoen> ah ok
[07:45] <julius> noone know where I can find something to print & promote Ubuntu in my school ? :/
[07:47] <Hamelin> Perhaps someone could help me, I'm having difficulty getting Samba to work
[07:48] <DanikarPN> Hamelin: What issues u having?
[07:56] <AdemoS> So will Ubuntu Hardy install Pulse Audio by default?
[07:56] <AdemoS> Because I read some worrying things about it here: http://artipc10.vub.ac.be/serendipity/archives/50-Bye-Bye-PulseAudio.html
[07:57] <zerlneo> guys, can i run games or application in crossover but i dont have a cd installer.. its already extracted in my backup drives
[07:57] <Hamelin> Ah, sorry DanikarPN, I missed your message because of all the join/quit messages. My problem is my shared folders don't show up on any windows machines. But, if I browse the workgroup computers in windows, I can see this computer, and if I doubleclick the icon it prompts me for some sort of login that doesn't seem to do anything. My user or root password certainly doesn't log into it
[07:58] <zerlneo> like warcraft frozen throne, its already in my backup game folders
[07:58] <andcorps> hi
[07:58] <Hamelin> I know samba works because I can print on the shared printer connected to my roommate's windows xp pc
[07:58] <andcorps> its me again
[07:58] <andcorps> okay this time just wonder
[07:59] <andcorps> does ubuntu need to software for clearing cache from internet and temp files
[07:59] <cgentry72> could someone guide me on how to install the drivers for a broadcom wireless card
[07:59] <dystopianray> andcorps: open firefox, go to 'tools -> clear private data'
[07:59] <zerlneo> guys, can i run games or application in crossover but i dont have a cd installer.. its already extracted in my backup drives
[07:59] <andcorps> okie dokie
[07:59] <doug2266778822> ok i downloaded install_flash_player_9_linux i cd, to it and do ./ sososo it comes back with error ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[07:59] <doug2266778822>        Adobe Flash Player installer.
[07:59] <doug2266778822>
[08:00] <dystopianray> doug2266778822: there is no 64-bit flash player, also why are you not installing the one from the repos?
[08:00] <Hamelin> I'm fairly sure there's documentation about wireless card installation in the ubuntu docs
[08:00] <doug2266778822> dystopianray:  lol forgot about that haha and im on 64 O.O
[08:01] <cgentry72> Hamelin, can i get to that from the menu
[08:01] <Hamelin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation
[08:02] <Hamelin> try searching in there
[08:02] <cgentry72> Hamelin, ok thank you
[08:02] <Hamelin> there's a lot of info in the user docs
[08:02] <Chris[]> Really odd situation, just out of nowhere... none of my mysql users have any privileges except for view.. including root. How could I reset root's privileges?
[08:04] <zerlneo> hey guys, i downloaded avast for ubuntu, then i install... after that.. where can i see that avast icon? doesnt appear on the top panel menus
[08:04] <Bidget> hey if a program crashes how do I end it?
[08:04] <Bidget> its just kinda frozen on my desktop haha
[08:04] <Guillaum3> greets gents.
[08:04] <powertool08> Bidget: try xkill, then click the offending window
[08:05] <dystopianray> Bidget: alt+fx, type 'xkill' click on the app
[08:05] <Bidget> brownie points on a quick answer cause its an mmo and I reaallly dont want to die
[08:05] <dystopianray> Bidget: alt+f2 i mean
[08:05] <Bidget> ok
[08:05] <Guillaum3> do we have a time for the release of 8.04
[08:05] <powertool08> Bidget: you can also kill it via top in a terminal
[08:05] <Bidget> ah thank you dystopianray that worked like a charm
[08:05] <dystopianray> Guillaum3: april 24
[08:05] <Guillaum3> time ;)
[08:05] <dystopianray> Guillaum3: sometimein the afternoon
[08:05] <Guillaum3> boo!
[08:05] <dystopianray> Guillaum3: GMT+1
[08:06] <dystopianray> that's my guess anyway
[08:06] <Guillaum3> yah its a ZA thing
[08:06] <blackvd> join #ubuntu-release-party
[08:06] <sorsis> Bidget: with 'ps' from console you can see PID of process and with 'kill <pid>' you kan kill a process
[08:06] <blackvd> oops
[08:06] <dystopianray> Guillaum3: ZA?
[08:06] <Guillaum3> south africa
[08:06] <sorsis> Bidget: or then you can use some applet to kill frozen window.
[08:06] <Hamelin> Anyone here able to help me with my Samba issues?
[08:07] <Guillaum3> wanted to put it on in the morning so i can have it when i get home
[08:07] <Guillaum3> lost a drive recently and i`m running vista till hardy is out
[08:07] <Guillaum3> its been 2 weeks now :(...
[08:07] <dystopianray> Guillaum3: if you download the latest daily build of the livecd it may possible be what becomes the final release
[08:07] <Chris[]> nevermind..
[08:08] <Guillaum3> cool
[08:08] <ichat> awwww - i realllly feel sorry for you...   How does it load Ubuntu differently?  is it just like swapping car engines?
[08:08] <khaije1> dystopianray: thats exactly what i was going to ask about...
[08:08] <Guillaum3> i need an opensource video transcoder for windows
[08:08] <Guillaum3> i`m sure something must have been ported with gtk
[08:08] <dystopianray> khaije1: about daily livecd builds?
[08:08] <sorsis> JPSman: something like that.
[08:09] <patifa> Guillaum3: Depends on what those choices are
[08:09] <yowshi> anyone know a really good programme that will record from a webcam? as well as audio at the same time?
[08:09] <Guillaum3> choices?
[08:09] <sorsis> JPSman: newer has a security update so there is no significant difference.
[08:09] <patifa> Well, if it's a choice between a kernel and the same kernel with (recovery mode), it's the 'same engine'
[08:09] <khaije1> dystopianray: right, and since it's probably set to be released in less than 36 hours, if there is any significant difference between the daily build and the 'official' release
[08:10] <JPSman> Sorsis: there is for my internet connection :OD   2.6.24 is really buggy with wireless drivers.    Yet 2.6.22 has failed with my graphics card
[08:10] <dystopianray> khaije1: i suspect their won't be, unless there is another build made, which i doubt
[08:10] <patifa> On the other hand, Guillaum, if it's a completely different version, the engine analogy is quite decent.
[08:11] <ichat> khaije1:  -  if you dont coun't the security fixes  ;)
[08:11] <dystopianray> khaije1: for the last two releases i've downloaded the latest daily builds before the official releases, and they have been identical to the final isos (same md5) and i avoided the slow mirrors on release day
[08:11] <cgentry72> I'm really not used to gnome but how do i check to see what broadcom card i have
[08:11] <khaije1> dystopianray: that sounds pretty good to me
[08:11] <Hamelin> Oh, we can update straight to the new version of Ubuntu from the previous version yes? That'll keep all my settings how they are, yes?
[08:11] <patifa> On release day you might as well download on bittorrent
[08:11] <khaije1> dystopianray: how early in advance did you grab the iso's?
[08:12] <Hamelin> cgentry72 try preferences > hardware information
[08:12] <dystopianray> khaije1: i don't remember exactly, probably the day before
[08:12] <Guillaum3> kubuntu release on the same date?
[08:12] <cgentry72> Hamelin, ok thanks
[08:12] <dystopianray> khaije1: i'm grabbing the latest build right now actually of hardy
[08:12] <ichat> patifa:  -  and why on release day yes and on other days no ?
[08:12] <Guillaum3> i use gnome @ the office, kde would be a nice change of pace for home
[08:13] <cgentry72> Hamelin, sorry no hardware information icon
[08:13] <khaije1> dystopianray: when was that last changed, cuz i grabbed the one from 24hrs ago for a seperate issue, maybe i could even use that
[08:13] <powertool08> cgentry72: try $lspci
[08:13] <Hamelin> in the task menu, under system?
[08:13] <keegan83> ciao a tutti
[08:13] <cgentry72> powertool08, ok thanks
[08:13] <dystopianray> khaije1: the latest is 20080423
[08:15] <khaije1> dystopianray: hmm... i wonder... they are all dist-upgradable anyway arent they?
[08:15] <dystopianray> khaije1: that's right
[08:15] <dystopianray> khaije1: at worst you'll be a few updated packages away from the 'final'
[08:15] <phazeman> can someone please post a keyborad configuration part of xorg.conf with more  then 1 language configured ? thanks a lot in advance
[08:15] <khaije1> dystopianray: linux r0x0r hard
[08:15] <Hamelin> How much is my computer going to have to download if I upgrade to the newest version from Gutsy using the update manager?
[08:16] <cgentry72> Hamelin, sorry no hardware information there :(
[08:16] <powertool08> dystopianray: i'm using 7.04 can i skip gutsy without a reinstall or will the upgrade force me to get gutsy first then hardy?
[08:16] <Guillaum3> yeah thats another thing
[08:16] <khaije1> dystopianray: i dont mean to be juvenile, but it's true nonetheless
[08:16] <Guillaum3> can you just upgrade?
[08:16] <Guillaum3> via apt or something
[08:17] <Guillaum3> saw an apt-updated a couple of days ago, mebby it has something to do with it
[08:17] <Guillaum3> from 7 -> 8 i mean
[08:18] <dystopianray> powertool08: i don't know, sorry
[08:18] <ichat> i wonder if its possible to upgrade  by cdrom  (saves you a lot of download - when re-installing  )
[08:19] <Hamelin> it's possible to upgrade with apt, you need to open it with an extra command, I saw it on the docs
[08:21] <Waffle> Hey, I am having problems playing .mpg videos, any help?
[08:23] <oupa> Hello, I'm having a problem sharing a printer. The printer is attached to a Kubuntu system and I am trying to access it from an Ubuntu system. It was all happening automatically, but now it doesn't show
[08:24] <Exlax> Is there any way to capture my screen to video? to show compiz effects etc?
[08:26] <powertool08> Exlax: i think xvidcap will do the job
[08:26] <fation_linuX> good morning to all
[08:26] <doug2266778822> how do i get this site to work http://www.pandora.com/
[08:28] <MisterWhite> good morning
[08:28] <fation_linuX> how can i download videos in streaming from watch-movies.net?
[08:28] <doug2266778822> how do i get this site to work http://www.pandora.com/
[08:29] <powertool08> fation_linuX: try the downloadhelper addon in firefox
[08:30] <fation_linuX> ok...i'm truing now
[08:30] <dystopianray> doug2266778822: i'd help but it's only accessible from the US
[08:30] <fation_linuX> trying*
[08:30] <doug2266778822> dystopianray: thanks np.
[08:31] <doug2266778822> dystopianray: same prob with myspace players they wont load but vids from youtube pplay fine
[08:32] <legend2440> doug2266778822: do you have adobe flash player installrd?
[08:33] <bobbie4> Night all!!!!
[08:33] <doug2266778822> legend2440: yes i do .
[08:33] <powertool08> doug2266778822: its working for me, tho it takes awhile before i hear anything, it eventually plays
[08:33] <fation_linuX> powetool08
[08:34] <fation_linuX> :)
[08:34] <doug2266778822> powertool08: pandora loads but all i see is a blue and white screen nothing more
[08:34] <fation_linuX> thnx a lot man
[08:34] <fation_linuX> ;)
[08:34] <legend2440> doug2266778822: it should work then. r u using firefox?
[08:34] <powertool08> fation_linuX: no problem
[08:34] <doug2266778822> legend2440: yes
[08:34] <krey> hi everyone, i can't enable the desktop effects i ubuntu gutsy, the motherboard has intel 965 express chipset family
[08:35] <krey> i think that is a problem with 3d acceleration
[08:35] <powertool08> doug2266778822: i see a loading screen then it asked me for a favorite artist
[08:35] <krey> how can i enable it?
[08:35] <doug2266778822> powertool08: not on me i see the name at top then white and blue background nothing more
[08:36] <powertool08> doug2266778822: maybe try reinstalling flash and restricted extras? i did that earlier tonight to fix a non-related flash problem
[08:36] <fation_linuX> We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S.
[08:36] <doug2266778822> powertool08: how do i do that when i reinstall it said i have the updated already
[08:36] <Xaroon> ubuntu 8.04 released time ?
[08:37] <fation_linuX> Xaroon 14 hours
[08:37] <fation_linuX> :)
[08:37] <powertool08> doug2266778822: well i removed it, then installed
[08:37] <Xaroon> fation_linuX: do u know ?
[08:37] <fation_linuX> yes
[08:37] <doug2266778822> powertool08: ah ok and would that work? i used synaptic to install
[08:37] <Xaroon> fation_linuX: release time ? GMT =
[08:37] <Xaroon> 0
[08:38] <Xaroon> im drunk sorry.
[08:38] <fation_linuX> 14 hours 22 mins
[08:38] <fation_linuX> +;)
[08:38] <Xaroon> thanks a lot
[08:38] <Xaroon> babe
[08:38] <krey> hi everyone, i can't enable the desktop effects i ubuntu gutsy, the motherboard has intel 965 express chipset family, how can i enable the 3d acceleration?
[08:38] <fation_linuX> ur welcome
[08:38] <DracoZA_> damn i'll be asleep then
[08:38] <fation_linuX> :P
[08:38] <powertool08> doug2266778822: i used kubuntu's add/remove manager, it seems to have fixed my problem and didn't give any complaints in the reinstall process
[08:38] <doug2266778822> powertool08: im on gutsy gnome
[08:39] <JPSman> Is it bad to run Hardy on Kernel 2.6.22 ?
[08:39] <powertool08> doug2266778822: synaptic should work the same
[08:39] <doug2266778822> powertool08: nope same thing
[08:39] <powertool08> doug2266778822: and you said youtube and other flash sites work fine?
[08:40] <doug2266778822> youtube does myspace dont and not sure bout flash games
[08:40] <krey> please help me!
[08:40] <Xaroon> fation_linuX: proof of the puding is in the eating.
[08:40] <Xaroon> krey: my i help u ?
[08:40] <fation_linuX> lol
[08:40] <fation_linuX> Krey
[08:40] <fation_linuX> ati graphic?
[08:41] <krey> no, i dont have
[08:41] <Xaroon> krey: whats problem maid ?
[08:41] <krey> i can't enable the desktop effects i ubuntu gutsy, the motherboard has intel 965 express chipset family, how can i enable the 3d acceleration?
[08:41] <Xaroon> im drunk helper
[08:41] <doug2266778822> powertool08: no to flash games as well
[08:41] <fation_linuX> krey did u have compiz?
[08:41] <powertool08> doug2266778822: where did you go to test that?
[08:41] <doug2266778822> addicting games
[08:41] <krey> yes i've installed
[08:41] <fation_linuX> ok
[08:42] <legend2440> krey: if you type compiz in terminal what errors do you get?
[08:42] <Xaroon> ok
[08:43] <Xaroon> fation_linuX: where r u from ?
[08:43] <doug2266778822> powertool08:  join me in room ##Wwed please so i could send u a link that wont load on me when i try
[08:43] <fation_linuX> albania
[08:43] <fation_linuX> lol
[08:43] <Xaroon> albania ?
[08:43] <Xaroon> whats albania ?
[08:43] <fation_linuX> yep
[08:43] <fation_linuX> why?
[08:43] <Xaroon> algeria ?
[08:43] <fation_linuX> it's a contry
[08:43] <fation_linuX> not man
[08:43] <fation_linuX> albania
[08:43] <Xaroon> owwww albania im sorry
[08:43] <FloodBot2> fation_linuX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:43] <fation_linuX> do u know?
[08:43] <Xaroon> yes i knowq
[08:43] <Xaroon> im from turkey
[08:43] <fation_linuX> ok
[08:44] <fation_linuX> lol
[08:44] <Xaroon> i think albania turkish name..
[08:44] <Xaroon> lol
[08:44] <fation_linuX> yep
[08:44] <fation_linuX> :)
[08:44] <fation_linuX> not at all
[08:44] <krey> Warn: no 8 bit glx pixmap format, disabling yv12 image format
[08:45] <krey> i've installed xserver-xgl
[08:45] <fation_linuX> krey : System ---> Administration --> Restricted driver manager
[08:45] <Xaroon> i remember
[08:45] <Xaroon> albania = arnavutluk
[08:45] <fation_linuX> lol
[08:45] <cgentry72> i'm just really stuck on this broadcom wireless deal. i've tried every linux distro and still can't figure it out.
[08:46] <Xaroon> turkish name is arnavutluk
[08:46] <fation_linuX> Xaroon merhaba
[08:46] <Xaroon> meraba
[08:46] <Xaroon> nasilsin ?
[08:46] <Xaroon> :)
[08:46] <fouad> cgentry72, ndiswrapper is your friend
[08:46] <fation_linuX> i don't know many phrases
[08:46] <fation_linuX> :(
[08:46] <Xaroon> fation_linuX: turkce biliyomusun
[08:46] <Xaroon> :)
[08:46] <cgentry72> fouad, i've heard but it's installed now what
[08:46] <Xaroon> turkce biliyomusun = do u speak turkish
[08:46] <fation_linuX> no
[08:46] <fation_linuX> i'm really sorry man
[08:46] <fouad> know you have to download the windows drivers
[08:46] <fation_linuX> :P
[08:46] <Xaroon> albanians girls ve beatufil
[08:47] <Xaroon> i know
[08:47] <fation_linuX> i know
[08:47] <fation_linuX> i like them
[08:47] <cgentry72> fouad, yea that's the problem I don't even know where they are
[08:47] <Xaroon> :)
  which version of ubuntu you use
[08:47] <fouad> and what is the broadcom model
[08:47] <cgentry72> fouad, the latest one
 it appear: your hardware doesn't need resctrited drivers
[08:47] <Xaroon> fation_linuX: http://www.google.com.tr/search?hl=tr&q=albania+girls&meta=
[08:47] <Xaroon> :)
[08:48] <fouad> cgentry72, latest one ... you mean 7.10 ?
[08:48] <cgentry72> fouad, yes
[08:48] <fouad> ok and what it's your broadcom model ?
[08:48] <cgentry72> fouad, as far as the model, i asked earlier where to find it and someone said hardware information but I could not find that anywhere
[08:48] <legend2440> krey: see if this helps Try doing alt + f2 and typing in compiz --replace
[08:49] <fouad> cgentry72, try the command lspci
[08:49] <cgentry72> fouad, one sec
[08:49] <fation_linuX> krey : /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format
[08:49] <fation_linuX> this one?
[08:49] <krey> yes
[08:49] <fation_linuX> the same of me
[08:49] <fation_linuX> but i have ati drivers
[08:49] <cgentry72> fouad, Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (piece of crap)
[08:50] <Xaroon> fation_linuX: http://www.albtimes.com/
[08:50] <fation_linuX> Xaroon : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GLjtVbwXtI  made by me
[08:51] <fation_linuX> lol
[08:51] <Xaroon> fation_linuX: u living pritzre
[08:51] <Xaroon> Dj fation oww yea
[08:51] <cgentry72> fouad, i'm having wireless nightmares for days
[08:51] <fation_linuX> yeahhh
[08:51] <Xaroon> owww i like electro music
[08:51] <fouad> cgentry72, have you tried to enable the restricted drivers ?
[08:51] <fation_linuX> i made techno - trance
[08:51] <Xaroon> nice clip
[08:51] <fation_linuX> thnx
[08:52] <fation_linuX> the old glorious albanian army
[08:52] <cgentry72> fouad, the only restricted drivers showing up is for nvidia driver
[08:52] <fation_linuX> communism army
[08:52] <fation_linuX> :)
[08:52] <Xaroon> fation_linuX: my job DJ
[08:52] <Xaroon> haha
[08:52] <Xaroon> im working time out bar in fethiye turkey
[08:52] <Xaroon> do u know fethiye ?
[08:52] <fation_linuX> fethiye it's a female name?
[08:52] <Xaroon> yep maybe :)
[08:52] <cgentry72> fouad, and that is enabled
[08:53] <fouad> cgentry72, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[08:53] <fation_linuX> i know a women named fethiye
[08:53] <fation_linuX> :)
[08:53] <krey> thanks for your help :)
[08:53] <Xaroon> fation_linuX: http://www.timeoutbar.net/
[08:53] <cgentry72> fouad, k i'll give it a shot thanks
[08:54] <Xaroon> anyway nice to meet u
[08:54] <Xaroon> see u soon.
[08:54] <Xaroon> fation_linuX:
[08:54] <fation_linuX> take care man
[08:54] <fation_linuX> :)
[08:56] <Heroin> Hey.. how do i end a screen session?
[08:56] <DanikarPN> Is there an Ubuntu or other brand of linux i supose. For really old computers. I am talking like 75 MHz 64MB ram
[08:56] <Andycasss> Can I make network manager forget my wifi password?
[08:56] <Andycasss> Right now when i select a network it doesnt ask for a pass or anything
[08:56] <Heroin> DanikarPN: yah.. puppylinux or DSL (damn small linux)
[08:58] <idefix> hi... ok I can put the command apt-get --reinstall install cupsys in my sessions startup programs list but there must be a more elegant solution
[08:58] <idefix> do you know it?
[08:59] <idefix> the switch --reinstall, does it remove the installation after each session?
[08:59] <Heroin> Hey.. how do i end a screen session?
[08:59] <doug2266778822> what is the compize fusion room ?
[08:59] <idefix> System Quit
[08:59] <powertool08> doug2266778822: #compiz-fusion i think
[09:00] <doug2266778822> i got four window selectors open but it only shows two
[09:00] <doug2266778822> i can not get no more then two
[09:00] <doug2266778822> powertool08: thanks
[09:03] <Heroin> what the logout command in a terminal?
[09:03] <Heroin> i wanne log my user out how?
[09:04] <mutk> Heroin, exit
[09:06] <idefix> man apt-get
[09:08] <zerlneo> guys, is the docks that i saw in youtubes is already in compiz fusion?
[09:08] <icesword> no
[09:08] <icesword> !info awn
[09:08] <akatsuki> hi
[09:08] <ubotu> Package awn does not exist in gutsy
[09:08] <akatsuki> anyone using a sony walkman on ubuntu?
[09:08] <akatsuki> i just buy one.. i was able to transfer pictures, but not music or video:S
[09:09] <icesword> !info avant-window-manager
[09:09] <ubotu> Package avant-window-manager does not exist in gutsy
[09:09] <icesword> !avn
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <icesword> :(
[09:09] <crdlb> 'avant-window-navigator'
[09:09] <seamus7> !awn
[09:09] <ubotu> Avant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that  positions itself at the bottom  of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager can be found the Gutsy !backports repository and  in Universe  in Hardy
[09:09] <zerlneo> so what docks you are using?
[09:10] <DanikarPN> zerlneo: You can get AWN, it just isnt installed by default
[09:10] <seamus7> zerlneo: AWN works well in Gutsy and Hardy
[09:10] <idefix> why is my apt-get install command nullified everytime I restart my PC?!
[09:10] <mrh> Hi all
[09:10] <zerlneo> can i have some link
[09:10] <cgentry72> i followed the instructions for the broadcom and it's showing up in the window drivers but still nothing
[09:10] <seamus7> !awn
[09:10] <ubotu> Avant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that  positions itself at the bottom  of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager can be found the Gutsy !backports repository and  in Universe  in Hardy
[09:10] <zerlneo> thankx
[09:10] <mrh> say guys, where is the /opt directory located in feisty?
[09:11] <seamus7> opt is in /
[09:12] <mrh> seamus7: so I should see it listed along with bin and boot etc?
[09:12] <seamus7> mrh yes
[09:12] <mrh> seamus7: I am looking at / and . . . no /opt
[09:14] <Olgem> cd / && ls | grep opt
[09:14] <mrh> Olgem: ok let me try
[09:15] <legend2440> mrh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190011
[09:16] <beto> ke onda
[09:16] <mrh> legend2440: thanks, I will look at that in a sec
[09:16] <beto> que es esta madre oke pedo
[09:16] <beto> que chingadera es esta wey
[09:16] <seamus7> !spanish
[09:16] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[09:17] <beto> ok i realy dont nowk how
[09:17] <beto> spik
[09:17] <beto> inglish
[09:17] <niuq> beto
[09:17] <beto> but
[09:17] <FloodBot2> beto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:17] <niuq> ¿qué queres hacer?
[09:17] <beto> i will try
[09:17] <ThreeFingerPete> so it looks like u8.04 will update cleaner, but also reinstalls without messing with /home which should i do when the time comes?
[09:17] <beto> a mira wey
[09:17] <Yoshi_Matrix> follow the directions
[09:17] <beto> si hablan español aki
[09:17] <Yoshi_Matrix> thats about all
[09:17] <Yoshi_Matrix> aqui
[09:17] <niuq> no
[09:17] <niuq> en realidad es puramente inglés
[09:18] <seamus7> !spanish
[09:18] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[09:18] <beto> ok thas cool
[09:18] <Yoshi_Matrix> Si Senor me habla espanol
[09:18] <Yoshi_Matrix> but not much
[09:18] <Yoshi_Matrix> some
[09:18] <Yoshi_Matrix> lol
[09:18] <FloodBot2> Yoshi_Matrix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:18] <doug2266778822> how do i fix my head phone jack to work?
[09:18] <kelvin911> hi why when i play et and hit ~ i sometimes lost mouse and keyboard?
[09:18] <beto> some
[09:18] <niuq> lol, nothing actually
[09:18] <XB23> hey guys, is it possible to snapshot my OS so that I could burn it to an ISO so i have a backup of everything?
[09:19] <ThreeFingerPete> XB23: look for remastersys
[09:19] <beto> ke pedo
[09:19] <doug2266778822> can someone help me fix my headphone issue?
[09:19] <XB23> cheers ThreeFingerPete
 Yoshi_Matrix: Please don't flood, use http
[09:19] <Yoshi_Matrix> thats funny
[09:19] <Yoshi_Matrix> since i didnt do any of that
[09:19] <mrh> XB23: Acronis True Image might help
[09:20] <Yoshi_Matrix> lol
[09:20] <bidossessi> hi folks
[09:20] <Yoshi_Matrix> hello
[09:20] <bidossessi> which repo would i find the software "cheese" in?
[09:20] <JPSman> C compiler cannot create executables  -  what synaptic package do I have to download for this to work?
[09:20] <mrh> Olgem: no reaction from those cl commands
[09:20] <doug2266778822> i need help to get my head phone jack to work please.
[09:21] <seamus7> XB23 did anyone answer? look into rsync  .. I believe it has the functionality you are looking for
[09:21] <beto> q weba wey
[09:21] <zerlneo> which one should i download in AWN for i386 gutsy?
[09:22] <legend2440> XB23: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-with-remastersys.html
[09:22] <mrh> legend2440: I am off to read that thread, I think that is my answer, I had assumed I simply could not find the directory in question
[09:22] <mrh> Thanks to all who helped
[09:24] <doug2266778822> i need help with my headphone jack please.
[09:24] <a_c_m> trying to diagnose a wifi problem... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide  but the ubuntu_wep_faq link is broken... any ideas?
[09:25] <JPSman> a_c_m what is the problem?
[09:25] <XB23> rysnc interesting
[09:25] <XB23> cheers
[09:25] <a_c_m> I cant connect to a wifi network, getting "assocation took to long >60"
[09:26] <cgentry72> i've had no luck installing the drivers for my broadcom wireless card so is there a place where i can find compatible usb wireless cards?
[09:26] <JPSman> a_c_m: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:26] <doug2266778822> i am running 64bit gutsy gnome and need help with getting my head phone jack to work please anyone?
[09:27] <JPSman> cgentry72: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[09:27] <a_c_m> JPSman both 8.4 (64bit) and 7.10 (32bit) - problem is on 2 computers (one laptop), each with different wifi cards both cards can see networks, and have in the past (at my old flat) been able to connect to networks.
[09:28] <JPSman> a_c_m: hardy has wireless problems, check out the site I just gave to gcentry72 for updates
[09:28] <zerlneo> hey guys, should i download all the links found here for AWN? http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=2311
[09:28] <a_c_m> JPSman i know the network works... as i'm, on it now with vista
[09:29] <a_c_m> JPSman right, but this problem is on both 8.4 and 7.10
[09:30] <rinovan> how to fix broken packages?
[09:30] <zerlneo> hey guys, should i download all the links found here for AWN? http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=2311
[09:31] <Ziroday> rinovan: what is the exact error message?
[09:31] <seamus7> zerlneo I recommend going to http://wiki.awn-project.org/DistributionGuides and following the Testing Package instructions
[09:31] <rinovan>   libc6: Depends: tzdata but it is not installable
[09:31] <rinovan>   libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-13etch5 is installed
[09:32] <seamus7> zerlneo: that is if you are on gutsy
[09:32] <cgentry72> JPSman, i'm not sure what that link is suppose to be for but it doesn't say anything about broadcom wireless cards
[09:32] <dysinger> woooooohoooo !
[09:32] <dysinger> almost ? not quite ?
[09:32] <cgentry72> JPSman, i'm looking for a place that will list compatible usb wireless hardware so i can go buy one that will work with ubuntu
[09:32] <dysinger> party ?
[09:32] <JPSman> cgentry72: oh sorry
[09:32] <zerlneo> so all of those links needed to download?
[09:33] <Ziroday> rinovan: have you been mixing debian and ubuntu repos?
[09:33] <doug2266778822> anyone?
[09:33] <rinovan> yes i am
[09:34] <doug2266778822> is anyone going to help? me.
[09:34] <nagchampa> hi, i'm trying to help a friend over IRC fix his computer
[09:34] <seamus7> zerlneo: no you add new repositories to your software sources, that will make the most current version of awn available for download once you update your package lists .. it's all spelled out in the Testing Pacakages instructions for Gutsy
[09:34] <nagchampa> he's running LTS ubuntu
[09:34] <nagchampa> he's lost the ability to admin anything
[09:34] <nagchampa> is there supposed to be a wheel group in ubuntu?
[09:35] <cgentry72> JPSman, so do you know where i can find a list of compatible usb wireless cards
[09:35] <erUSUL> !hcl
[09:35] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[09:35] <Ziroday> rinovan: well thats not always a good idea, the reason you have that error is that you have a debian package which is not compatible with the ubuntu package, you can try uninstall the debian package and either use apt-pinning or remove the debian repos to try and reinstall the ubuntu version of libc6, however this may cause breakage throughout your machine
[09:35] <cgentry72> ubotu, thanks man
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks man - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <jrib> nagchampa: "admin" group
[09:35] <JPSman> cgentry72: yeah i can find out bit busy right now
[09:35] <nagchampa> ok, thanks jrib
[09:35] <Ziroday> cgentry72: ubotu is a bot
[09:36] <Ziroday> !ask | doug2266778822
[09:36] <ubotu> doug2266778822: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:36] <doug2266778822> my head phone jack will not work
[09:37] <nagchampa> do you need to be in the audio group in ubuntu for audio access for your user?
[09:37] <jrib> nagchampa: yes
[09:37] <rinovan> Ziroday: apt-pinning?
[09:37] <nagchampa> ok, thanks jrib :)
[09:37] <erUSUL> nagchampa: yep
[09:37] <cgentry72> Ziroday, oh that's funny thanks for telling me
[09:38] <doug2266778822> im running ubuntu gutsy gnome and i can not get my head phoen jack to work. can anyone help me?
[09:38] <nagchampa> final question, what groups should a default user be in (with admin access) for ubuntu?
[09:38] <Nick123> im trying ot enable a restricted drivre but is says the software source is not enabled and it gives me a name how do i enable that
[09:39] <zerlneo> seamus7: i dont actually have a active internet connection at home... im here in a cafe station
[09:40] <zerlneo> thats why im looking also for a package installer that i can download and save it to my flash drive and install at home
[09:40] <bsdpuppy> doug2266778822: try System/Preferences/Sound -> Test if you can get playback to your speakers. Try setting the volume. Else you have to see if your soundcard is supported by the ALSA/OSS mixer.
[09:40] <Ziroday> rinovan: a method of specifying which package versions over which repos to favor, useful but hard to setup
[09:41] <tmroland> hi
[09:41] <doug2266778822> bsdpuppy: i have done that but all of it comes back external speakers
[09:41] <tmroland> pls tell me something to do at comand line that takes a lot of time to perform and intensively uses system resources.. something like a simple benchamark or similar
[09:41] <tmroland> using aa standard comand
[09:41] <sorsis> tmroland: compile a kernel
[09:41] <seamus7> zerlneo you won't have internet access at home anytime soon?
[09:42] <tmroland> something else
[09:42] <nagchampa> there's an advanced CLI calculator that you could get soem tricky maths to do with it
[09:42] <bsdpuppy> doug2266778822: so you have sound playback? Than you haven't plugged the headphones in the right jack.
[09:42] <dystopianray> tmroland: what do you want to benchmark?
[09:42] <doug2266778822> bsdpuppy: i have them pluged in the jack
[09:42] <nagchampa> anyone know what groups a standard user with admin access on ubuntu 6.06 should be in?
[09:42] <tmroland> hard drive / ram
[09:42] <tmroland> cpu
[09:42] <tmroland> anything
[09:42] <tmroland> using a simple command
[09:43] <dystopianray> tmroland: sudo hdparm -tT /dev/blah to benchmark a hdd
[09:43] <tmroland> how much does that take
[09:43] <tmroland> in time
[09:43] <dystopianray> not very long
[09:43] <tmroland> well not good then
[09:43] <tmroland> something that runs non stop
[09:43] <tmroland> until i stop it
[09:43] <bsdpuppy> doug2266778822: tried other headphones?
[09:44] <tmroland> anythin gthat works with the filesystem will do
[09:44] <dystopianray> tmroland: why do you want it to work like that?
[09:44] <marcel> i deleted a partition that has a LOT of important data on it, what can i do?
[09:44] <doug2266778822> bsdpuppy: yes got brand new ones as well.
[09:44] <a_c_m> are there any dedicated ubuntu wifi support channels?
[09:44] <tmroland> because i need it to work continously , thats what my boss said
[09:44] <erUSUL> !info testdisk | marcel
[09:44] <ubotu> marcel: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.6-1 (gutsy), package size 668 kB, installed size 2624 kB
[09:44] <erUSUL> !info gpart | marcel
[09:44] <ubotu> marcel: gpart (source: gpart): Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4.1 (gutsy), package size 35 kB, installed size 112 kB
[09:45] <sorsis> tmroland: benchmarking is not that simple so i would still recommend something more complicated like kernel compiling or mp3 encoding.
[09:45] <tmroland> ok
[09:45] <zerlneo> seamus7: we dont have net connection for a 2 weeks already.. and i dont know when it will be up again
[09:45] <dystopianray> tmroland: you want a benchmark that just goes on forever?
[09:45] <Mistrical> hey everyone, can someone give me a hand, i think ive got a problem with xfce
[09:45] <rinovan> Ziroday: so I must locate libc6
[09:45] <marcel> ah, brb
[09:45] <tmroland> i want anything possible any app or program even GUI in gnome that actually takes some resources to run and is kinda intensive..
[09:45] <tmroland> anything included in standard linux
[09:46] <tmroland> distros
[09:46] <bsdpuppy> tmroland: how long should it run
[09:46] <sorsis> tmroland: and if you have several CPUs or multiple cores use '-j <amount of cores>' to use all cores.
[09:46] <dystopianray> tmroland: for what purpose?
[09:46] <Mistrical> the main taskbar at the top has disappeared, it appears as a really thin line
[09:46] <Mistrical> no buttons
[09:46] <tmroland> because i suspect the pc will freeze
[09:46] <sorsis> tmroland: http://www.2cpu.com/articles/41_3.html
[09:46] <marcel> back
[09:46] <dystopianray> tmroland: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null ?
[09:46] <marcel> its a 450gb partition, how long am i looking at it going to take?
[09:47] <bsdpuppy> tmroland: the best thing to use as a really annoying system resource eating benchmarker is to use a dedicated server game like Quake and ask other people to play on it
[09:47] <sorsis> tmroland: http://softwarecommunity.intel.com/articles/eng/1735.htm
[09:47] <bsdpuppy> tmroland: or play yourself :)
[09:47] <tmroland> dystopianray : i did that comand. tell me what does it do ? generate random numbers and send them to the black hole ?
[09:47] <dystopianray> tmroland: basically
[09:47] <Mistrical> how do i edit the grub bootloader so that my xp installation is the default?
[09:47] <tmroland> does that use signifcant resources ?
[09:47] <dystopianray> tmroland: check top
[09:48] <tmroland> aye
[09:48] <timfrost> !info lmbench
[09:48] <ubotu> lmbench (source: lmbench): Utilities to benchmark UNIX systems. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.0-a7-1 (gutsy), package size 782 kB, installed size 3552 kB
[09:48] <tmroland> its on 1st place
[09:48] <tmroland> in resource usage
[09:48] <sorsis> tmroland: memtest is allso good for testing if comp can handle heat or if there is some failing bits in ram.
[09:48] <seamus7> zerlneo awn will likely install lots of dependencies .. not sure what those are .. you could build your own debian packages http://wiki.awn-project.org/HOWTO:BuildYourOwnDebianPackages
[09:48] <doug2266778822> bsdpuppy: ? any ideas?
[09:48] <dystopianray> tmroland: try this as well: cat /dev/sda > /dev/null
[09:48] <tmroland> sorsis : yes, but i need something that runs while the OS is running
[09:48] <dystopianray> tmroland: replacing sda with whatever your hdd is
[09:48] <tmroland> ok
[09:49] <tmroland> that sends contents of the block device to black hole or what?
[09:49] <bsdpuppy> doug2266778822: if your speakers can playback your sound there is nothing wrong with your soundcard or your OS.
[09:49] <dystopianray> tmroland: that's right
[09:49] <bsdpuppy> doug2266778822: so i am running out.
[09:49] <tmroland> k
[09:49] <tmroland> those 2 runnig at same time should do
[09:50] <doug2266778822> bsdpuppy:  i do alsamixer even as sudo and the headphone line wont move up.
[09:50] <zerlneo> seamus7: im only 1 week old of using this OS :) thats why im so damn n00b on this...
[09:50] <marcel> testdisk is confusing, is gpart easier?
[09:50] <kaltsinho> DO YOU KNOW WHEN KUBUNTU IS READY WITH KDE4????
[09:50] <seamus7> zerlneo is your home computer a laptop .. can you take it somewhere with internet?
[09:50] <dystopianray> kaltsinho: there will be a kde4 version of hardy
[09:50] <tmroland> in what way does the last command send data do dev/null ? it doesnt actually send the fs contents... what does it send ?
[09:51] <a_c_m> kaltsinho it is now... more a case of when KDE4 is ready for ubuntu ;)
[09:51] <dystopianray> tmroland: it writes the entire contents of the drive to /dev/null
[09:51] <tmroland> aha
[09:51] <tmroland> entire data
[09:51] <kaltsinho> in ubuntu site said in one day the hardy will be ready
[09:51] <tmroland> ok
[09:51] <kaltsinho> either kubuntu?
[09:51] <tmroland> its like throwing your hdd in the garbage can but u still have the original data
[09:51] <tmroland> right?
[09:51] <doug2266778822>  im running ubuntu gutsy gnome and i can not get my head phone jack to work. can anyone help me?
[09:52] <dystopianray> tmroland: it simpy reads the contents of the drive and writes it to /dev/null
[09:52] <dystopianray> simply
[09:52] <simion314> hi, i never used usb flash memori stick in Ubuntu. i know that in XP you must use the safe remove before remove the drive, how can i remove the drive safe in ubuntu?
[09:52] <tmroland> ok
[09:52] <tmroland> thanks man
[09:52] <Nick123> im trying ot enable a restricted drivre but is says the software source is not enabled and it gives me a name how do i enable that
[09:52] <tmroland> just what iwas looking for
[09:53] <icesword> simion314, right click, delete it
[09:53] <zerlneo> seamus7: no, its desktop.... if only i can take it to cafe station but i dont think they want
[09:53] <kaltsinho> do you know the release date of kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 4 complete????
[09:53] <JPSman> I need help installing beta sound drivers
[09:54] <dystopianray> kaltsinho: probably tomorrow
[09:54] <simion314> icesword: unmount it(in 8.04)?
[09:54] <JPSman> The drivers come with an installer, but I get the error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:54] <kaltsinho> I CANT WAITTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:54] <Scrounch> kde4 complete.... 1 years, 2 years ~
[09:54] <kaltsinho> I'm so happy
[09:54] <dystopianray> JPSman: do you have build-essentials installed?
[09:54] <jrib> kaltsinho: #ubuntu-release-party
[09:54] <icesword> simion314, yep, it will do the same of " umount"
[09:54] <icesword> thing
[09:54] <JPSman> Dystopianray: uh, thank you i'll try
[09:55] <Nick123> im trying ot enable a restricted drivre but is says the software source is not enabled and it gives me a name how do i enable that, hwo do i enable it?
[09:55] <kaltsinho> KDE 4 will be complete?
[09:56] <JPSman> Dystopianray: wait how do I do that?  synaptic package?
[09:56] <dystopianray> kaltsinho: what do you mean by 'complete' ?
[09:56] <dystopianray> JPSman: however you normally install packages
[09:56] <timfrost> JPSman: you need build-essential (not build-essentials), plus the linux headers package, and the development packages for libraries that the drivers need to link against
[09:56] <timfrost> !info build-essential
[09:56] <ubotu> build-essential (source: build-essential): informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[09:56] <JRRD> hey all  -- I've compile a driver that generated a .ko file where is the best place to store this in the filesystem?
[09:59] <zerlneo> hey guys, how can i install a file like this on ubuntu 7.1? avant-window-navigator-0.2.6.tar.gz (md5)
[09:59] <timfrost> JPSman: you can install build-essential with synaptic, or you can use the command-line tools (apt-get or aptitude)
[09:59] <zerlneo> file extension is .tar.gz
[09:59] <dystopianray> zerlneo: you probably need to compile it
[09:59] <JRRD> should .ko files typically reside somewhere under /lib/modules?
[09:59] <billgoldberg> hey people, does anyone have any experiences with the restricted ati drivers in hardy? In gutsy I couldn't play 3d games (compiz fusion worked well) (I use a ati radeon xpress 200, an onboard card)
[09:59] <kaltsinho> i heard that now has less apps and not stable.is that true? tomorrow will be ok?
[10:00] <kaltsinho> about kubuntu
[10:00] <zerlneo> dystopianray, can u give me a link on how to do that? im a noob on this OS
[10:00] <dystopianray> zerlneo: i can't, sorry
[10:00] <Nick123> whats dapper?
[10:00] <timfrost> JRRD, the ko file needs to go into the directory /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/misc
[10:00] <dystopianray> zerlneo: and if you're a 'noob' i wouldn't recommend trying it
[10:00] <billgoldberg> dapper is an old ubuntu version
[10:00] <dystopianray> Nick123: dapper is ubuntu 6.06
[10:01] <timfrost> !compile | zerlneo
[10:01] <ubotu> zerlneo: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[10:01] <zerlneo> thankx
[10:01] <Nick123> im trying to follow this
[10:01] <Nick123> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[10:01] <Nick123> how do i get into that screen to type commands
[10:01] <JRRD> timfrost, thx!
[10:02] <zerlneo> i think they dont have a pre built on this... https://launchpad.net/awn
[10:02] <billgoldberg> nick: the terminal, it should be under applications -> accessories
[10:02] <Nick123> do ii just type in there
[10:02] <billgoldberg> yes, copy paste the commands from the how to
[10:04] <billgoldberg> does anyone know any good ubuntu blogs, I'm home from work the rest of the week and I'm bored
[10:04] <dystopianray> billgoldberg: try planet ubuntu
[10:05] <billgoldberg> ok
[10:05] <billgoldberg> will do
[10:05] <kaltsinho> go outside goldberg with friends
[10:05] <iclebyte> haha
[10:05] <kaltsinho> better option
[10:05] <billgoldberg> kaltsinho, there all in school or at work, it's 11am here
[10:06] <kaltsinho> go for a drink then
[10:06] <billgoldberg> mmm, a bit to early
[10:07] <billgoldberg> and since gparted has been rezising my external hdd for more than 10 hours, I can't play css
[10:07] <kaltsinho> depends the country
[10:07] <alado> is  new xubuntu also coming out tomorrow, or is it just ubuntu?
[10:07] <billgoldberg> all version
[10:07] <billgoldberg> s
[10:07] <billgoldberg> come out tomorrow
[10:07] <alado> ok, thnx
[10:07] <bsdpuppy> anyone experience with bridges and vpn?
[10:08] <kaltsinho> do you know a place to order some linux sticks for laptop???
[10:08] <iclebyte> stickers?
[10:08] <kaltsinho> y
[10:08] <kaltsinho> i cut MS logos
[10:09] <dystopianray> kaltsinho: I got some ubuntu stickers when I ordered a bunch of ubuntu cds from shipit a couple years ago
[10:09] <kaltsinho> how long you waited for the cds and other stuff?
[10:09] <iclebyte> i think www.jinx.com do stickers
[10:10] <kaltsinho> thx
[10:10] <billgoldberg> i think you can get free stickers from system76
[10:10] <iclebyte> and http://www.hackerstickers.com/
[10:10] <iclebyte> =)
[10:11] <Koheleth> having stickers seems a bit nerdy to me
[10:11] <kaltsinho> thx again
[10:11] <Koheleth> I would put a ubuntu logo on my website though
[10:12] <Koheleth> then again, I used to have a SuSE cap :)
[10:12] <kaltsinho> when i'm cutting MS logos i scratch my laptop and now i need new stickers
[10:13] <Koheleth> lol
[10:13] <kaltsinho> it is a little bit ugly now
[10:13] <phishie> lol
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> http://www.hackerstickers.com/products/tux-penguin-shotglass.shtml
[10:14] <zerlneo> why i cant find a pre built package for AWN gutsy?
[10:14] <kaltsinho> lol very good
[10:15] <kaltsinho> hackerstickers are in UK???
[10:15] <billgoldberg> zerlneo, you can try getdeb.net
[10:15] <phishie> kaltsinho, it took about 2 weeks for them to send the cds here in SG
[10:16] <JPSman> timfrost: "Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution"  which synaptic packages are these?
[10:16] <dystopianray> kaltsinho: I think it took a month or two to get the CDs for me, I am in Australia
[10:16] <phishie> that's actually pretty fast
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> JPSman: sudo apt-get install kernel-source
[10:16] <seamus7> zerlneo you might try downloading the files for gutsy which end i386.deb .. put them on a usb drive or disc .. https://launchpad.net/~awn-testing/+archive ... you'd need those for avant-windows-navigator-trunk and avant-extra-applets-trunk .. there are 8
[10:17] <kaltsinho> i cant w8 so long dude
[10:17] <Ace_NoOne> hi there - is there a flowchart application that does auto-placement/-spacing of elements?   I never knew
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> JPSman:  apt-cache search kernel-source
[10:19] <billgoldberg> I'm looking for a  pdf converter, anyone has any suggestions?
[10:19] <mrh> Was installing Xampp
[10:19] <hhofuel> wow cool
[10:19] <dystopianray> hhofuel: there is nothing special about 4 cores, any linux distro should support it
[10:19] <kaltsinho> bb guys happy easter
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> JPSman: you'll need the universal options enabled
[10:19] <Koheleth> http://totl.net/Spud/
[10:19] <eichi> Koheleth, ? what?
[10:19] <eichi> Koheleth, ? what?
[10:19] <Koheleth> it should run on that
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> JPSman: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/apt-get-kernel-source-is-installing-the-wrong-kernel-source.-317139/
[10:20] <Houdini> can someone help me? in my /etc/network/interfaces is only an entry for my loopback interface. why do i still have a working eth0?
[10:20] <dystopianray> Houdini: network-manager
[10:20] <mrh> A thank you to all who answered my questions earlier
[10:20] <mrh> bye fellas
[10:20] <Mental_Man> which is the best cross platform GUI toolkit to use for both windows and linux for a opensource project ? any suggestions
[10:20] <hhofuel> dystopianray: what do you mean nothing special? does it mean that it wont add speed or efficient processing?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Houdini: network-manager is managing it, you can populate the file if you wish
[10:20] <Houdini> dystopianray: what do you mean?
[10:20] <dystopianray> hhofuel: i mean that all distros should support it
[10:21] <dystopianray> hhofuel: you don't need to go looking for a special distro, they should all support it without issue
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Mental_Man: wine is cool, cedega and crossover office if you wanna splash some cash
[10:21] <dystopianray> Houdini: network-manager is managing your eth0 interface
[10:21] <phishie> Mental_Man, erm... eclipse with plugins?
[10:21] <dystopianray> Mental_Man: Qt
[10:21] <timfrost> JPSman: yes ".h" is a header file in the C/C++ world. BTW, if you install linux-headers-generic, it will keep updating the headers as new kernel releases are made
[10:21] <Mental_Man> is QT opensource?
[10:22] <dystopianray> Mental_Man: yes, KDE is based on Qt
[10:22] <Mental_Man> oh... thanks...
[10:22] <Mental_Man> i am new to computers......
[10:22] <dystopianray> Mental_Man: regardless of what you think of KDE, Qt is definetly the best GUI toolkit on any platform, it is amazing
[10:22] <Mental_Man> but i hate windows....lol
[10:22] <hhofuel> thanks dystopianray
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> Mental_Man: you'll learn
[10:23] <billgoldberg> I have a stupid question, I did "gksudo nautilus" and now the desktop stays on the root desktop, restarting x is not an option. What should I do?
[10:24] <NET||abuse> Hey guys.. anyone know a good way to raw read a floppy drive and recover files off it? my boss has a floppy with some important notes on it, from a while back, his windows machine is saying unformatted disk.
[10:24] <JPSman> timfrost: I am using hardy and kernel 2.6.22 - is this bad?
[10:24] <phishie> billgoldberg,  kill process running nautilus?
[10:25] <dystopianray> NET||abuse: he has no backup?
[10:25] <billgoldberg> won't that crash the desktop?
[10:25] <doug2266778822>  im running ubuntu gutsy gnome and i can not get my head phoen jack to work. can anyone help me?
[10:25] <zvacet> JPSman : how many old kernels do you have?
[10:25] <billgoldberg> doug, donwload "gnome alsamixer" from add/remove and tag the "headphone box"
[10:25] <NET||abuse> dystopianray: it's that he had from some book from ages ago, it has some stuff he really wants to read.
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: ty man dd
[10:26] <phishie> billgoldberg, I'm not sure about that now man
[10:26] <JPSman> zvacet: just two - 2.6.22 and 2.6.24(that came with hardy)    the reason is that 2.6.24 has buggy rt2x00 drivers and my internet is weak
[10:26] <Mental_Man> goto terminal and type "nautilus -q
[10:27] <billgoldberg> phishie, it's not really such a big deal, normally I would restart x, but gparted is running, i'll keep it like that and to "sudo nautilus" next time
[10:27] <billgoldberg> mental man, will try
[10:27] <timfrost> JPSman: that presents difficulties, as the 2.6.22 kernel packages aren't in the hardy repositories.  You will have to download and install the header package manually (it will be available, as gutsy uses that kernel)
[10:27] <Mental_Man> that i think should restart nautilus back with default user
[10:27] <zvacet> JPSman : So you can boot in Hardy kernel but you don´t want to.You can use old krnel.
[10:27] <billgoldberg> didn't work
[10:28] <Mental_Man> ok .. then goto terminal and type "killall nautilus"....
[10:28] <JPSman> zvacet: exactly - i just want to know if thats a bad thing
[10:28] <Mental_Man> without quotes...
[10:28] <billgoldberg> doesn't work either, nor did pkill
[10:28] <cpk1> JPSman:  just build your own rt2x00 drivers?
[10:28] <Mental_Man> logout and login back again....see if that works
[10:28] <cpk1> JPSman: then you can boot into 2.6.22 kernel just fine
[10:29] <Joelio> Is this the 8.04 discussion?
[10:29] <Joelio> or is there another chanel
[10:29] <billgoldberg> mental_man, I know that will do but I can't log out now (gparted is resizing my external hdd)
[10:29] <Joelio> s/chanel/channel
[10:29] <cpk1> !hardy
[10:29] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[10:29] <dystopianray> Joelio: #ubuntu+1
[10:29] <zvacet> JPSman : You can run old krnel,but if you get fix for new one how do you know it?
[10:29] <Mental_Man> ok...
[10:29] <billgoldberg> i'll just wait till gparted is ready and then restart x
[10:29] <Mental_Man> its really hard to say what might have caused the problem
[10:29] <JPSman> cpkl: I wish I was that leet.  No the guys over at http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com have done that   I just dont know how to impliment the VCS's
[10:30] <JPSman> cvs
[10:30] <sgbirch> firefox isnt starting on two of my dapper machines after a recent update/upgrade. Is this a known problem?
[10:30] <Mental_Man> try starting the system monitor and see if nautilus is running as dependency for another program
[10:30] <billgoldberg> another strange this that happened is that naulilus won''t open, nor does thunar, I can only open it using "gksudo nautilus".
[10:30] <billgoldberg> ok
[10:31] <JPSman> timfrost: so google kernel header package 2.6.22?    how do I do this manuall?
[10:32] <Koheleth> sgbirch: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-March/071488.html
[10:32] <cpk1> JPSman: ahh, i see since they switched to being in the kernel tree to get the newest you need the newest kernel, that might be more work than you want =P otherwise you might be able to try the legacy drivers
[10:32] <batman> hey guys
[10:33] <JPSman> cpkl: legacy drivers?
[10:33] <cpk1> JPSman: which rt chipset you have?
[10:33] <billgoldberg> thunar and nautilus say "uninteruptable", thunar is running by itself and naulitus as depedency for the x-session-manager
[10:33] <JPSman> cpkl: rt2500pci
[10:34] <Mental_Man> see if "gksudo nautilus -q" works
[10:34] <cpk1> JPSman: so why dont you just try building the driver from this http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt2500-cvs-daily.tar.gz instead of going through all the trouble of manually getting .22 kernel headers and whatnot
[10:34] <ineti> Hi
[10:34] <batman> hi
[10:34] <Mental_Man> Hi
[10:34] <billgoldberg> mental man: no
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> JPSman: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/129183
[10:34] <ineti> Is the radeon xpress 1150 supported with the OSS radeon driver?
[10:34] <JPSman> cpkl: because I reallly really dont know how :OP   LOL  I would love to learn
[10:35] <billgoldberg> I never had this happening before, strange
[10:35] <batman> ;)
[10:35] <billgoldberg> the problems started when choosing a new gtk theme
[10:35] <Mental_Man> ok... i guess when the partitioning is done... logout and log back in
[10:35] <billgoldberg> that's the plan :p
[10:35] <msingh> how long to go now?
[10:36] <JPSman> ActionParsnip:  I dont know how to use this information that you have given me
[10:36] <cpk1> JPSman: you will have just as much trouble installing kernel headers as you would building the drivers
[10:36] <cpk1> *manually installing kernel headers that it
[10:36] <cpk1> is*
[10:37] <sgbirch> Koheleth: that doesnt seem to be the problem
[10:37] <JPSman> cpkl: ok this is true but as I am using 2.6.24 I have no internet with which to ask you guys and trouble shoot these things
[10:37] <JPSman> cpkl: where is a good place to start learning how to build a driver?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> JPSman: ndiswrapper does it too :)
[10:37] <Koheleth> I just googled a few words like dapper +firefox and that came up
[10:37] <sgbirch> Koheleth: removing the .parentlock file doesnt help.  The firefox process is running but no window is displayed
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> JPSman: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24389.html
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> JPSman: you'll need the XPdriver
[10:38]  * JPSman looks like a lost puppy
[10:39] <Koheleth> sgbirch:   try uninstalling and deleting the folders and reinstalling from scratch, I bet that will sort it.
[10:39] <cpk1> JPSman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500?highlight=%28ralink%29 is a good place to start
[10:40] <sgbirch> Koheleth: Yeah, I just did a rm -rf .mozilla and it came back.  Strange .. two machines broke after and upgrade. Both dapper.
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> JPSman: you arent going to learn the system without putting some efort in dude
[10:41] <Koheleth> contact mozilla
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> JPSman: look around and find stuff out man
[10:41] <babo> is there a screen capture program for linux that also captures sound ?
[10:42] <Koheleth> that be cool
[10:42] <cpk1> JPSman: I am pretty sure that link I gave you explains both methods of getting ralink cards to work so read up =)
[10:42] <ajbe> hi! what could be the most stable both smtp and imap/pop3 email server?
[10:42] <JPSman> ActionParsnip: I understand.  I'm trying my best but I am frustrated.  I thank you for all your help so far
[10:42] <ajbe> any tips pls?
[10:42] <JPSman> cpkl:  thank you for all your help :OD
[10:42] <timfrost> JPSman: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.22/ (or choose a local mirror) should have the linux-headers-2.6.22 file you need.  Grab the correct one for your architecture, if you do need to build the driver from source
[10:43] <cpk1> timfrost: if he is building from source he might as well use 2.6.24 and then he can apt the headers
[10:43] <JPSman> timfrost:  thank you for all your help
[10:44] <karim> anybody using xchat?
[10:44] <karim> gotta a little problem and its pissing me off rly bad
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> JPSman: read the walkthrough i pasted up above, its pretty helpful
[10:44] <dystopianray> karim: i'm not using it now but I do use it elsewhere
[10:44] <JPSman> timfrost - cpkl :  I have decieded to take ActionParsnips advice and learn how to fix my rt2500 problem.  I thank all of you for your help.
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> JPSman: basically you combine ndswrapper (install from repos)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> with the xp driver
[10:44] <Paavi2_0> karim: what's the problem?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> and itmakes stuff work
[10:45] <Romina> hi
[10:45] <cpk1> JPSman: make sure you disable the rt2x00 driver!
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Paav rt2500 pci wireless with ubuntu
[10:45] <Romina> How can I allow every user (instead of only root)  to run  /usr/bin/syndaemon  ?
[10:45] <JPSman> this is the true spirit of Ubuntu.  Thank all of you
[10:45] <karim> every time i try to connect to this network i get the following message
[10:45] <karim> If your mail address were<EMAIL_ADDRESS>your username would be foo.
[10:45] <karim> * Closing Link: k4r1m by ClanShells.DE.EU.GameSurge.net (USER: Bad username)
[10:45] <Mental_Man> i am using xhat for windows
[10:46] <karim> and i cant find this email thing any where in the settings
[10:46] <Mental_Man> are u in ubuntu... at the moment
[10:46] <karim> im using gOS
[10:46] <karim> which is pretty much ubuntu yeah
[10:47] <Ryuho> i installed a program by 'make install', i can't find how to start the installed program... where would i look
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Ryuho: whats the app you installed?
[10:47] <Ryuho> navi2ch
[10:47] <Mental_Man> ok... then goto the directory where xchat saves the its settings.... its .xchat directory... somewhere in your home dir
[10:47] <Ryuho> i found it on sourceforge
[10:47] <karim> anybody?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Ryuho: does it not run if you simply type navi2ch in a terminal?
[10:48] <Ryuho> nope
[10:48]  * N3bunel saluta
[10:48] <Ryuho> nothing starting with navi
[10:48] <dystopianray> karim: try changing your username to what it says it should be
[10:48] <Ryuho> as far as my tab complition can tell me
[10:48] <ccooke> karim: ... sounds like an irc server with an odd policy
[10:48] <dystopianray> karim: then ask someone on that networka bout the issue
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Ryuho: how about the command which navi2ch
[10:49] <Ryuho> it didn't do anything
[10:49] <karim> i have tried that
[10:50] <karim> xchat is freaking horrible what do you guys suggest other than xchat?
[10:50] <Paavi2_0> karim: sounds like a problem not xchat specific
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Ryuho: id use sudo find then :(
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> karim: pidgin is ok
[10:50] <karim> nah
[10:50] <Paavi2_0> karim: irssi is the best
[10:50] <ccooke> karim: irssi is a great client for text mode
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> or konversation if you have kde libs
[10:50] <zvacet> Ryuho :                locate navi2ch
[10:50] <karim> i want nice gui
[10:51] <karim> with highlighting options and stuff
[10:51] <Ryuho> k
[10:51] <Paavi2_0> irssi comes with highlighting
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> karim: http://www.ircreviews.org/clients/platforms-unix-x.html
[10:51] <Ryuho> zvacet nothing
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> karim: its IRC, it doesnt usually have a pretty gui
[10:51] <karim> alright
[10:52] <karim> so how do i remove this?
[10:52] <Paavi2_0> do you really want to?
[10:52] <zvacet> Ryuho :sorry for asking,but did you install it properly?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> karim: theres a plugin for firefox too for irc chat
[10:52] <Ryuho> welp i did do ./comfigure
[10:52] <karim> yeah well hm i might as well
[10:52] <Ryuho> and the log didn't seem to have any problem
[10:52] <zvacet> Ryuho : I sow deb package
[10:52] <karim> so how do i remove this?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> karim: remove what?
[10:53] <karim> nvm got it
[10:53] <Paavi2_0> karim: use synaptic
[10:53] <cRyPt0> hello. can someone pls guide me in installing horde in ubuntu 7.10?
[10:53] <cRyPt0> hello. can someone pls guide me in installing horde in ubuntu 7.10 (server)?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> cRyPt0: sudo apt-get remove --purge horde; sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:55] <cRyPt0> ActionParsnip: i wish to install it.
[10:55] <bad_image> Hello folks, please help me a bit with the following sentence: "Order here your personal photos or videos." - I think the only allowed version is "Order your personal videos or photos here.", but I'm not sure, are you?
[10:55] <zvacet> Ryuho : cd /          and then sudo find / -name *navi2ch*
[10:55] <Ryuho> ok
[10:55] <zvacet> Ryuho : it have to be somewhere
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> cRyPt0: then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install horde
[10:56] <Ryuho> searching
[10:56] <bad_image> Did I choose a bad channel? I ask because you seem to be dumb like windows user
[10:56] <CrazyRat> anybody who knows the hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda command
[10:57] <ikonia> CrazyRat: what about it ?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> bad_image: the 2nd sentance is correct
[10:57] <Ryuho> i see files under emacs/22.1 file
[10:57] <ikonia> bad_image: whats the problem, and please be respectful to other users
[10:57] <CrazyRat> I wonder how can I revert it
[10:57] <cRyPt0> ActionParsnip: it gives me the following error: Package horde is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:57] <cRyPt0> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:57] <cRyPt0> is only available from another source
[10:57] <cRyPt0> E: Package horde has no installation candidate
[10:57] <lordleemo> bad_image: the second sentence is better english   and we are not dumb
[10:57] <FloodBot1> cRyPt0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:57] <ikonia> CrazyRat: revert it to what ?
[10:57] <bad_image> thank you guys
[10:57] <CrazyRat> I don't know what's the default value of the parameter -B
[10:57] <zvacet> Ryuho : time and patience
[10:57] <ikonia> bad_image: what's the problem you've got ?
[10:57] <ikonia> CrazyRat: that varies from system/disk
[10:58] <CrazyRat> hmmm.... on ubuntu
[10:58] <Ryuho> i see files under folder related to emacs.. and that's it
[10:58] <ikonia> CrazyRat: that varies on system/disk - not OS
[10:58] <bad_image> and sorry for confronting you with windows users
[10:58] <CrazyRat> I set it to 254 and my hdd don't spin down
[10:58] <ikonia> bad_image: do you have a question yes/no
[10:58] <Paavi2_0> bad_image: the last sentence seemed to be right by any means, but this propably is the wrong channel...
[10:59] <bad_image> ikonia, as you can see my question has been already answered =)
[10:59] <cRyPt0> ActionParsnip: i get the following error -> Package horde is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package horde has no installation candidate
[10:59] <Helvasca-> how do I force dpkg to install a package?
[10:59] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: please don't pander to this, there is nothing wrong with windows users and calling them names in this channel is uncalled for
[10:59] <ikonia> bad_image: no, sorry, I didn't see it answered.
[10:59] <ikonia> CrazyRat: 254 is only JUST turning apm on
[11:00] <ikonia> CrazyRat: the lower the value the more agressive the apm
[11:00] <ikonia> CrazyRat: 255 turns it off, so if your on 254, you've only just turned it on
[11:00] <bad_image> ikonia, alright
[11:00] <bad_image> bye and thx again
[11:00] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: i just answered to the question he asked first
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> cRyPt0: then you need to find a repository with the app on it
[11:00] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: yes, but persisting with sly remarks about windows users shouldn't continue
[11:00] <CrazyRat> hmm, thanks ikonia
[11:01] <CrazyRat> I just found that in man pages
[11:01] <zvacet> Ryuho I don´t know.What about instaqll file and ead me file.Can you find something about package there?
[11:01] <ikonia> CrazyRat: you may want to try setting it to a quite agressive number to test it
[11:01] <doug2266778822> is it normal to hear the little needle scrape across the hd disks? inside the hd.
[11:01] <ikonia> CrazyRat: you may also want to check if your drive supportes it
[11:01] <ikonia> doug2266778822: depends on the sound, but yes
[11:01] <CrazyRat> yeah, my load_cycle_count   rising fast
[11:01] <Ryuho> i'm looking at the install instruction file.. but it only says to make install... then the list of things to do ends lol
[11:02] <ikonia> Ryuho: contact the maintering/support service for it then
[11:02] <Paavi2_0> ikonia: you're right. many ubuntu/linux-users i know are using windows too. didn't mean to give wrong impressions
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> cRyPt0: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/horde-sam
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> maybe
[11:02] <Ryuho> ikonia it seems like an abandoned project anyway
[11:02] <Ryuho> the sourceforge webpage seems out dated
[11:02] <ikonia> Paavi2_0: no problem, just be mindful of what you say "windows is dumb" is just a silly statment and uncalled for (as an example)
[11:02] <cRyPt0> ActionParsnip: shd i add that to the apt config file?
[11:02] <ikonia> Ryuho: what is the application ?
[11:03] <Ryuho> navi2chan-1.7.5
[11:03] <doug2266778822> thnks ikonia
[11:03] <ikonia> Ryuho: not aware of it at all
[11:03] <Ryuho> http://sourceforge.net/projects/navi2ch/
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> cRyPt0: you need to enable universe repos
[11:03] <Ryuho> yeah
[11:03] <cRyPt0> ActionParsnip: how do i do that. i currently have the sources.list file open
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> cRyPt0: uncomment the lines for universe if you want
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> or you can use adept / synaptic / whatever and enable them
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> cRyPt0: id google about enabling sources
[11:05] <cRyPt0> ActionParsnip: ok
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> cRyPt0: i'd also run sudo apt-get upgrade too
[11:05] <umbrualbert> Sepate screens/sessions for Nvidia cards
[11:05] <Ryuho> thx for the input guys
[11:06] <CrazyRat> setting hdparm -B 128  .... looks like the hdd temperature falls a little bit
[11:07] <CrazyRat> does this Load_Cycle_Count really matters if it's rising fast?
[11:07] <mogsog> hello
[11:08] <dystopianray> CrazyRat: yes, it's reducing the lifespan of your drive
[11:08] <ikonia> CrazyRat: can effect performance,
[11:09] <mogsog> does anyone know if the is a live cd of ubuntu which comes with vlc on it out the box
[11:09] <CrazyRat> but if i turn spin down off, the temperature rises...about 5 degree
[11:09] <mogsog> ?
[11:09] <ikonia> mogsog: no
[11:09] <ikonia> mogsog: there is only one ubuntu livecd
[11:09] <CrazyRat> which is worse?
[11:09] <ikonia> CrazyRat: thats your call
[11:09] <dystopianray> mogsog: just boot the livecd and install vlc
[11:09] <CrazyRat> -_-b
[11:10] <dystopianray> mogsog: or get a diffent livecd that does have vlc
[11:10] <mogsog> dystopianray: know any live cds which do have vlc?
[11:10] <ikonia> mogsog: this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:10] <ikonia> mogsog: please take it to a more generic place.
[11:10] <CrazyRat> Thank you anyway , ikonia :)
[11:10] <ikonia> CrazyRat: welcome
[11:10] <mogsog> ok thanks
[11:10] <dystopianray> mogsog: no
[11:12] <doug2266778822> what is compize fusion room? last time i ask i will make note
[11:12] <ikonia> doug2266778822: #compiz-fusion
[11:12] <a_c_m> This is driving me nuts... i cant connect to a wifi network in (k)ubuntu that vista connects to without a problem, the card can see the network fine, i'm able to enter the WEP key - but then it fails. Syslog says 'association took too long (>60 s)' anyone help? willing to drop a few $ into a hat for this (be it your hat or ubuntus)
[11:12] <doug2266778822> ikonia:  thank you
[11:13] <ikonia> a_c_m: no need for $
[11:13] <ikonia> a_c_m: the most common cause of this is a timeout due to the encyption type being wrong on ubuntu
[11:13] <JPSman> cpkl: oh the irony.  I need the latest Kernel headers to create a new rt2500 driver       xOP  !!
[11:14] <a_c_m> ikonia i kind of assumed that... but the encryption type is correct, i know as i'm using it now (from vista)
[11:14] <ikonia> a_c_m: what encyption type is it ?
[11:14] <a_c_m> ikonia WEP
[11:15] <a_c_m> ikonia 128 bit key, given to me as a asci string
[11:15] <ikonia> a_c_m: ok, so I don't know how kubuntu displays this but in the gnome network config thee are multiple options for wep
[11:15] <JPSman> ActionParsnip:  oh the irony.  I need the latest Kernel headers to create a new rt2500 driver       xOP  !!
[11:15] <ikonia> JPSman: we saw you the first time
[11:15] <a_c_m> ikonia yeah i get a few options too, tried them all
[11:15] <JPSman> ikonia: I didnt think/dont know he was on
[11:16] <ikonia> a_c_m: also, you may want to check that wep is actually supported/stable on your card
[11:16] <ikonia> JPSman: doesn't matter - you posted it in channel, EVERYONE saw it
[11:16] <a_c_m> ikonia agreed, however i've had this problem on non WEP enabled networks
[11:16] <ikonia> a_c_m: when I say suported stable, I mean with the linux driver your using, of course it's supported as your using it in windows
[11:16] <ikonia> a_c_m: an interesting test would be to disable the encyption on the network and see if it can join
[11:17] <a_c_m> trying that now
[11:17] <a_c_m> ikonia you about for a bit?
[11:17] <ikonia> a_c_m: another thing to check is make sure what your gui or /etc/interfaces file says your card is setup with, matches what iwconfig says
[11:17] <ikonia> a_c_m: I'll be around in/out for a while
[11:18] <ikonia> a_c_m: I have a common issue with a certain make/model of card that when I disable encyption in the gui, I have to disable it using iwconfig as it doesn't actually hit the card through the gui
[11:19] <cpk1> JPSman: if you are using the 2.6.24 kernel on hardy you can use apt to get the kernel headers, if you are on gutsy you can get the .22 headers from apt
[11:20] <JPSman> cpkl:  I am using 2.6.22 on hardy   :O'
[11:20] <ikonia> JPSman: is there a reason your using that version with hardy ?
[11:20] <JPSman> cpkl:  thing is, if I build a driver on .22  will it work in .24?
[11:20] <Koheleth> its great not to be alone
[11:20] <Koheleth> hehe
[11:20] <dystopianray> JPSman: it will not
[11:20] <cpk1> JPSman: no
[11:20] <A[D]minS> Dear all , how i can check the configuration of RAID from Linux?
[11:20] <JPSman> ikonia:  yes .24 has internet connection issues
[11:21] <A[D]minS> P.S its hardware RAID not Software
[11:21] <ikonia> JPSman interenet connection issues, ??? do you mean network card stability ?
[11:21] <cpk1> JPSman: but like I said before, if the only reason you want to use .22 is because of the wireless you might as well use .24 since you are building the drivers yourself
[11:21] <ikonia> A[D]minS: look at the tools your hardware vendor has supplied
[11:21] <JPSman> ikonia:  yes - .24's rt2500 drivers are buggy
[11:22] <JPSman> cpkl:  yeah I want to - but at the tutorial says "Please note you will need to have an active internet connection for these instructions to work, so you may need to hook up via ethernet temporarily."
[11:22] <JPSman> and since I dont have one in .24    i am caught in a catch 22 :OD
[11:22] <roocraig> I have the following error and I would like to get it handled-any help would be appreciated     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64097/
[11:22] <cpk1> JPSman: you don't have an ethernet port?
[11:23] <JPSman> cpkl:  I dont have internet.  I am leeching off my neighbors in an apartment complex   -  beggers cant be choosers
[11:23] <ikonia> JPSman why are you in catch 22, just get the headers and kernel source for 24 on your 22 box
[11:23] <JPSman> where do the 24 install while i'm running 22?
[11:24] <JPSman> where does apt-get install essentials put things?
[11:24] <cpk1> JPSman: you can use everything out of bin and sbin dont worry
[11:25] <cpk1> JPSman: did you read this page at all? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500?highlight=%28ralink%29
[11:25] <JPSman> I am at that page now currently yes
[11:25] <roocraig> I have tried a few things but I have been told it is not a bad install per se-any suggestions?
[11:25] <cpk1> JPSman: section 4.4 seems pretty easy to follow
[11:26] <oholiks> hello, will there be a new version tomorrow? I tried to upgrade today but it want's to remove alot of essential programs such a xsetroot, xlogo, xmms!, xdpyinfo etc, is this to be expected?
[11:26] <billgoldberg> bulbulbred, nice to see a fellow countrymen. I was feeling left out.
[11:27] <cpk1> JPSman: since you are in the .22 kernel though will will need to replace the $(uname -r) in linux-headers-$(uname -r) with the correct version for .24 which you will be using
[11:27] <JPSman> cpkl:  can I install it while I am running .22?
[11:27] <cpk1> JPSman: you can install build essential and the kernel headers
[11:28] <babo> has anyone gotten recordmydesktop to work on their system ?
[11:28] <JPSman> Ok i'll try that.  I didnt know that I could load other driver headers while using a different kernel
[11:28] <roocraig> Does anybody know about the error I am receiving after I install a program? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64097/
[11:28] <billgoldberg> babo, yes
[11:28] <popey> billgoldberg: yes, frequently
[11:28] <cpk1> JPSman: save that web page to your computer so after you get the .24 kernels you can boot into .24 and finish compiling the kernel and loading it
[11:28] <fiyawerx> For someone impatient, what do you miss out on by downloading the RC a day before the release?
[11:29] <babo> billgoldberg, did it recognize your soundcard straight off ? Also, how did you activate the GUI client ?
[11:29] <dystopianray> fiyawerx: nothing
[11:29] <dystopianray> fiyawerx: install and upgrade and you'll be at the same point as the final tomorrow
[11:29] <fiyawerx> dystopianray: cool, was hoping that was the answer
[11:29] <cpk1> possible last minute changes on the cd if you are someone with limited bandwidth right?
[11:29] <billgoldberg> no, never got the sound working, but I added sound to it using avidemux, Use gtkrecordmydesktop for the gui
[11:29] <dystopianray> fiyawerx: if you can don't get the RC, get one the latest daily livecd build
[11:29] <JPSman> LOL
[11:29] <dystopianray> fiyawerx: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/
[11:30] <fiyawerx> kubuntu rc torrent coming in at 900kB/sec so can't complain, will check tha tout thanks dys
[11:30] <roocraig> Can anyone help me with a sound issue: I have sound through the headphones but not through my laptop speakers-I am a newbie and need some help please
[11:30] <billgoldberg> roocraig, download "gnome alsamixer" from synatpic and max everyting
[11:31] <cpk1> JPSman: keep in mind also you might have to blacklist the headers that came with the .24 kernel
[11:31] <billgoldberg> roocraig, or "alsamixer" in the terminal
[11:31] <babo> billgoldberg, how did you activate it though ?
[11:31] <babo> DISPLAY=:0 && gtk-recordmydesktop
[11:31] <babo> nothing
[11:31] <JPSman> cpkl: blacklist?
[11:31] <billgoldberg> babo, the gui?
[11:32] <babo> billgoldberg, right
[11:32] <babo> it doesn't show on gnome for me, even after i do a killall
[11:32] <billgoldberg> you need to download gtk record my desktop using synaptic or add/remove
[11:32] <cpk1> JPSman: basically tell the computer not to use the driver in the .24 kernel, that wiki page you are looking at also has a section about that
[11:32] <babo> billgoldberg, oops, my fault sorry :-(
[11:32] <babo> got it ...
[11:33] <billgoldberg> :p
[11:33] <babo> billgoldberg, it did show up
[11:33] <JPSman> cpkl: hrm no i'm going to try to do all of this while running .24
[11:33] <JPSman> bbl - wish me luck
[11:34] <roocraig> billgoldberg: i ran that and maxed everything, but still no sound-what else can I do or what other commands do you want me to run?
[11:34] <ubuntu><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:35] <roocraig> i ran that and maxed everything, but still no sound-what else can I do or what other commands should I run to try and get some sound?
[11:36] <cRyPt0> hello. i have just installed horde3. how can i test that horde has installed corrected. my aim is to install chora2 for SVN
[11:36] <fiyawerx> aw kubuntu and ubuntu going fast, xubuntu crawling heh
[11:36] <cRyPt0> i'm using ubuntu 7.10 (server)
[11:36] <ThomasWaldmann> could someone using ubuntu's recent firefox security upgrade please reproduce a problem?
[11:37] <ThomasWaldmann> we have a wiki page and when I visit it, firefox crashes/terminates completely for me
[11:37] <ikonia> cRyPt0: horde3 is debian ?
[11:37] <dystopianray> ThomasWaldmann: <IP_ADDRESS>+2nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 ?
[11:37] <Dephenom> Hi Guys, I have a strange problem with my sound, it is all working but when I plug external speakers into the jack on the side of my laptop I still get the sound coming out of the laptop speaker, I have looked on http://help.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org and there is nothing there, any help would be aprecieated
[11:37] <icy_> my mousewheel stopped scrolling (nautilus, firefox etc) but clicking still works. what could be the cause for that?
[11:38] <ThomasWaldmann> dystopianray: yes
[11:38] <roocraig> I have a Realtek ALC861-VD soundcard. Any suggestions on how to get it to produce some sound for me-I have it through the headphones but not the laptop speakers-any help?
[11:38] <dystopianray> ThomasWaldmann: where is this wiki?
[11:38] <yowshi> grrr somehow i got my ubuntu thinking that my camera is off when cheese is recording a video
[11:38] <yowshi> i am trying to piece together sopmething i could put on youtube
[11:38] <cRyPt0> ikonia: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/all/horde-sam
[11:38] <ThomasWaldmann> dystopianray: http://moinmo.in/WikiSandBox
[11:38] <yowshi> anyone able to help?
[11:38] <ikonia> cRyPt0: ok, so software not the Os product. What do you want to do ?
[11:39] <dystopianray> ThomasWaldmann: seems to work, anything in particular I need to do?
[11:40] <cRyPt0> ikonia: i have SVN set up on my ubuntu 7.10 (server). I wish to install chora (http://www.horde.org/chora/docs/?f=INSTALL.html) so that users can view SVN repository via web browser. can you please help
[11:40] <ThomasWaldmann> dystopianray: if i go to that url, it crashes after about 9s
[11:40] <Pady92> Can wine play 3d games with opengl setup in ubuntu?
[11:40] <ThomasWaldmann> (while still showing the load indicator)
[11:40] <yao_ziyuan> how do i log in as root to a gnome/kde dession?
[11:40] <yao_ziyuan> *session
[11:40] <ikonia> cRyPt0: what do you want help with, you've not told me what the problem is, just what you want to do ?
[11:40] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: you don't
[11:40] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: i want to change root's kde theme
[11:40] <CrazyRat> use sudo when you need root permission
[11:41] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: why ?? you don't login to kde as root, so it shouldn't have a theme
[11:41] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: i want to sudo "System Settings"
[11:41] <dystopianray> ThomasWaldmann: i'm not experiencing any crashes here
[11:41] <Pady92> Any1?
[11:41] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: why ?
[11:41] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: what is the command for system settings?
[11:41] <dystopianray> yao_ziyuan: try kcontrol
[11:41] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: root should not have a kde profile
[11:41] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: when i use sudo adept-manager, it shows a different kde theme than other apps
[11:42] <icy_> my mousewheel stopped scrolling (nautilus, firefox etc) but clicking still works. what could be the cause for that?
[11:42] <roocraig> does anyone know how to install a soundcard driver?
[11:42] <ThomasWaldmann> dystopianray: strange. it is reproducable here. maybe it is some kind of badly handled timeout? my machine is 1ghz/1gb.
[11:42] <cRyPt0> ikonia: currently i can view my SVN repository using web browswer (using apache server). however, this gives a very basic tree structure. horde (chora) gives a better interface to SVN repository so I'm trying to install horde (and then chora). i have installed horde3 and chora2. however i'm stuck - as in what to do next so that i can vew the chora interface via the web browser
[11:42] <Pady92> Im new in irc chat. Sorry 4 ne mistake i may hav done
[11:42] <dystopianray> ThomasWaldmann: do you have any extensions installed? I have a virgin firefox
[11:43] <gnuskool> who is using firefox 3 on hardy?
[11:43] <CrazyRat> me....
[11:44] <CrazyRat> 3.0b5
[11:44] <gnuskool> is it as fast as they say? do older extensions still work?
[11:44] <Dephenom> Hi Guys, I have a strange problem with my sound, it is all working but when I plug external speakers into the jack on the side of my laptop I still get the sound coming out of the laptop speaker, I have looked on http://help.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org and there is nothing there, any help would be aprecieated
[11:44] <geirha> Pady92: you can play some opengl games with wine, yes. Search for your game at http://appdb.winehq.org/ to see how well it works
[11:44] <yao_ziyuan> if you change your kde theme,
[11:44] <yao_ziyuan> it won't affect adept-manager
[11:44] <CrazyRat> chatzilla, dta still works
[11:44] <ThomasWaldmann> dystopianray: disabled all extensions, still crashing
[11:45] <CrazyRat> MediaWrap works
[11:45] <yao_ziyuan> because adept-manager is run as root, which seems to use another theme profile
[11:45]  * ThomasWaldmann suspects the flash plugin
[11:45] <dystopianray> ThomasWaldmann: are you running 32-bit 7.10 ?
[11:45] <yao_ziyuan> how do i set adept-manager's kde theme?
[11:45] <ThomasWaldmann> dystopianray: yes
[11:45] <dystopianray> ThomasWaldmann: i'm not getting any flash appearing on the page
[11:45] <CrazyRat> I have no problem visiting site with flash
[11:45] <dystopianray> ThomasWaldmann: ther are some links to swf files at the bottom
[11:45] <dystopianray> ThomasWaldmann: I just made an edit to the page
[11:46] <ikonia> cRyPt0: sorry, I missed tha last comment as someone was talking to me
[11:47] <cRyPt0> ikonia: here is what I said earlier.
[11:47] <cRyPt0> ikonia: currently i can view my SVN repository using web browswer (using apache server). however, this gives a very basic tree structure. horde (chora) gives a better interface to SVN repository so I'm trying to install horde (and then chora). i have installed horde3 and chora2. however i'm stuck - as in what to do next so that i can vew the chora interface via the web browser
[11:47] <ThomasWaldmann> dystopianray: still crashed afterwards. i reverted to an older version of that page, now it stopped crashing.
[11:48] <knexx> can any1 help me?
[11:48] <dystopianray> ThomasWaldmann: I didn't get any crashes from that page
[11:48] <polywaffle> im looking through my registry
[11:48] <jhoc2x> hi to all.. ^_^
[11:49] <cRyPt0> ikonia: do you understand what i'm trying to do?
[11:49] <ThomasWaldmann> dystopianray: it must be the flash stuff at the bottom, that's the only difference
[11:49] <Dephenom> Hi Guys, I have a strange problem with my sound, it is all working but when I plug external speakers into the jack on the side of my laptop I still get the sound coming out of the laptop speaker, I have looked on http://help.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org and there is nothing there, any help would be aprecieated
[11:49] <eth01> just ask...
[11:49] <ikonia> cRyPt0: I think so
[11:51] <JPSman> cpkl: when i test the built rt2500.ko it says "insmod: error inserting 'rt2500.ko': -1 File exists"  is that because the drivers are already integrated into the .24 kernel?
[11:52] <amorphous> an app to connect my telephone to the pc and make calls/take messages etc? I can only find softphone options on google, and I'm after a normal telephone plugged into a modem...?
[11:53] <doug2266778822> how do i put a trash can on my desktop?
[11:54] <jrib> !icons > doug2266778822 (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:54] <doug2266778822> jrib:  thank you
[11:54] <Dephenom> Hi Guys, I have a strange problem with my sound, it is all working but when I plug external speakers into the jack on the side of my laptop I still get the sound coming out of the laptop speaker, I have looked on http://help.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org and there is nothing there, any help would be aprecieated
[11:54] <cRyPt0E> ikonia: u there?
[11:55] <amorphous> no..?
[11:56] <babo> has anyone had issues with recordmydesktop recognizing the sound device ?
[11:57] <drivetrax> hi... I noticed that my workspace only shows ONE workspace... when it is set to 4 columns and One Row
[11:57] <amorphous> are there no telephone gui's that are not IP phone?
[11:57] <JPSmon> I am on my laptop
[11:57] <drivetrax> When I click on it, the screens change, but there are no labels
[11:58] <drivetrax> Also, when I set a first workspace.. the rest are .. like Voids, no menus, nothing but desktops
[11:59] <cRyPt0E> hi guys currently i can view my SVN repository using web browswer (using apache server). however, this gives a very basic tree structure. horde (chora) gives a better interface to SVN repository so I'm trying to install horde (and then chora). i have installed horde3 and chora2. however i'm stuck - as in what to do next so that i can vew the chora interface via the web browser
[11:59] <drivetrax> If you have an ATI 9600 series video card, the Restricted driver doesn't do much good
[12:00] <Daonix> hello! Is there any easy way to install Enlightenment?
[12:00] <dystopianray> cRyPt0E: you'll want to refer to chora's documentation
[12:00] <eckesicle> !skype > eckesicle
[12:00] <geoaxis> hello people, offically Ubuntu is to be released tomorrow, but would there be any difference in the CD imagof hardy thats available right now? at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/804rc
[12:00] <CrazyRat> bye all, out for dinner
[12:00] <drivetrax> geoaxis:  RC means release candidate..
[12:01] <Serengaeth{V}> Hi #ubuntu
[12:01] <MT> Bom Dia...
[12:01] <_MaxPower_> I've been trying to install Enlightenment for 10 Years .. LOL
[12:01] <prodigel> Hi. I'm having trouble with my window manager. It freezes even when trying to change background color or view panel properties.  Can someone help me debugg it?
[12:01] <Serengaeth{V}> I've come to a realisation.  Ubuntu is downloading, is this a good place to lurk for advice?
[12:02] <MT> Hi! Can somebody help a "first timer" in linux - ubuntu, Please?
[12:02] <Daonix> _MaxPower_, U was trying to install E in Windos?)
[12:02] <drivetrax> Serengaeth{V}:  yes
[12:02] <drivetrax> Serengaeth{V}:  can dual boot
[12:02] <_MaxPower_> No ... Not on windows .. I started with redhat linux version 5
[12:03] <Serengaeth{V}> drivetrax: Excellent. I understand I can boot from disc and take a look?
[12:03] <Daonix> prodigel, ar u using GNOME?
[12:03] <drivetrax> Serengaeth{V}:  - yes, oh yes.. I used Unetbootin, no burn install
[12:03] <geoaxis> drivetrax:  right ..but would there be any difference ie last minute bug fixes perhaps
[12:04] <MT> is it possible to keep using windows while getting started with linux on the same laptop?
[12:04] <hwilde_> !dualboot | MT
[12:04] <ubotu> MT: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[12:04] <drivetrax> geoaxis:  -- Cursors, a user in compiz said.. to get the one that does not has RC
[12:05] <JPSmon> whats up MT?
[12:05] <MT> was that an answer for me- MT?
[12:05] <badaboom> bonjour
[12:05] <MT> the "Dual Boot" ?
[12:05] <Daonix> answer is "yes"
[12:05] <hwilde_> !live | MT
[12:05] <ubotu> MT: The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.
[12:05] <badaboom> je cherche le chat français d'ubuntu ?
[12:05] <hwilde_> !fr | badaboom
[12:05] <ubotu> badaboom: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:06] <badaboom> merci !
[12:06] <MT> Thanks a lot!
[12:06] <prodigel> Daonix: yes
[12:07] <Daonix> prodigel: sudo apt-get remove nautilus   sudo apt-get install nautilus
[12:08] <prodigel> Daonix: is something common, or how do you know this exact thing will work?
[12:08] <badaboom> the RC of ubuntu 8.04 is stable or not please ?
[12:08] <hwilde_> prodigel, is it frozen right now?   type   metacity --replace
[12:08] <badaboom> sorry for my english
[12:08] <bloeper> Badaboom: tommorow is the real stable version
[12:08] <prodigel> hwilde_: it is .. .will try
[12:09] <hwilde_> badaboom, RC is Release Candidate -  ie if it is stable it will be the release
[12:09] <Daonix> prodigel, i have had problem with my WM this morning...
[12:09] <effie_jayx> heh, topic should say somthing like "It is out when it is ready, we are debian based" :D
[12:09] <hwilde_> you can just upgrade you know what's the big deal
[12:09] <bloeper> maybe we should
[12:09] <badaboom> but this day, the version is not stable ?...
[12:09] <Daonix> reinstall will be needed if u often have problems
[12:09] <bloeper> but if we can believe the ubuntu.com site it comes tommorw
[12:09] <bloeper> *tomorrow
[12:09] <_moro_bana_> how is flash coming up, still broken?
[12:10] <badaboom> i'm impatient... :/
[12:10] <bloeper> it's kind of stable but if you have time i should wait until tomorrow
[12:10] <drivetrax> well.. the RC means release candidate, the final one might be another one from their dev team
[12:10] <icesword> king of kongfu
[12:10] <badaboom> ok...
[12:10] <_moro_bana_> !flash
[12:10] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:10] <prodigel> hwilde_: didn't do the trick. metacity isn't the problem
[12:10] <badaboom> attendons demais ;)
[12:11] <bloeper> why the hurry if i may ask?
[12:11] <prodigel> Daonix: I've reinstalled nautilus, should I restart x?
[12:11] <hwilde_> prodigel, ok then    sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[12:11] <prodigel> Daonix: I've tried restarting x earlier and it freezes totalli
[12:11] <Daonix> ar u using compiz?
[12:11] <bloeper> need to go
[12:11] <hwilde_> !display | prodigel
[12:11] <bloeper> cya later
[12:11] <ubotu> prodigel: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:11] <prodigel> hwilde_: no
[12:11] <zigford> In the past I have heard that id you run a RC, you should fresh install the final release when it is available.  Is this still true?
[12:12] <icesword> king of kongfu, anyone seen that film
[12:12] <Pici> icesword: offtopic
[12:12] <icesword> it is cooooool
[12:12] <prodigel> Daonix: No. using metacity
[12:13] <Pici> zigford: No, that is not necessary, further Hardy questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[12:13] <zigford> k
[12:13] <Daonix> prodigel: try to reinstall compiz, metacity and nautilus. I`m sure it would help
[12:13] <icesword> Pici, it is very cool, just take your gf to cinema to see...
[12:14] <Pici> icesword: Please, you know about #ubuntu-offtopic, and why such discussion is not on-topic in #ubuntu
[12:14] <icesword> k
[12:14] <drivetrax> Pici:  - why does my workspace only show "desk 1"
[12:15] <Pici> drivetrax: Perhaps you only have one workspace?
[12:15] <drivetrax> Pici:  - if I click on it, it zooms to the other windows
[12:15] <Pici> drivetrax: What is 'it'?
[12:15] <drivetrax> the panel
[12:16] <Pici> drivetrax: Do you mean that it slides the desk to the left or right?
[12:16] <badaboom> can is possible of overclocking on ubuntu ?
[12:16] <badaboom> (sorry)
[12:16] <drivetrax> yeah yes
[12:16] <badaboom> ?
[12:16] <drivetrax> But, those are not labeled, and nothing is on them
[12:16] <Pici> drivetrax: Thats normal, if you want to customize that action, you can install compizconfig-settings-manager
[12:16] <Pici> !ccsm | drivetrax
[12:16] <ubotu> drivetrax: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[12:17] <drivetrax> well... yes, I did that, but as of three days ago, I have not been able to view a cube
[12:18] <Pici> drivetrax: It sounds like compiz is enabled, have you asked the folks in #compiz-fusion about changing the configuration to enable the cube?
[12:18] <drivetrax> Pici:  - I am looking for extra desktops, virtual space, not eye candy
[12:18] <Pici> drivetrax: In the general tab of ccsm you can increase the number of virtual desktops... Horizontal size I believe it is called.
[12:18] <drivetrax> gives it a look
[12:19] <guja_nebeska> Ojha.
[12:19] <luigix> wewer
[12:21]  * Daonix is looking for people using Enlightenment
[12:22] <ricanelite> tomorrow, will a update come up to upgrade to Hardy? Cause right now I'm running Hardy RC
[12:22] <ricanelite> so I will just get a update to to install the updates?
[12:22] <Pici> !final > ricanelite (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[12:22] <anton> hi i have a new dell laptop and it has a vista installed on it i want to shift to ubuntu gutsy what is the best partition i would do? Help anyone.. Thank you!
[12:23] <ricanelite> Oh wow really
[12:23] <ricanelite> okay cool
[12:23] <Daonix> фтещтб црфе г ьуфт гтвук Эиуые зфкешешщтЭ,
[12:24] <Daonix> anton, wnat d u mean under "best partition"?
[12:25] <anton> Daonix: it has 2 partitions under vista 1st is 140gb and then 2nd is 10 gb
[12:25] <Daonix> 10Gb is enough for installing Ubuntu
[12:25] <anton> Daonix: I want to completely use it for ubuntu
[12:25] <Daonix> but i recommend u to remove Vista at all
[12:25] <anton> Daonix: what do u suggest ?
[12:26] <anton> Daonix: yes that was really my Idea
[12:26] <Daonix> i think: 10 Gb volume -- for system(ubuntu). 140 Gb volume -- for anything another
[12:26] <icy_> my mousewheel stopped scrolling (nautilus, firefox etc) but clicking still works. what could be the cause for that?
[12:26] <Daonix> system volume should be ReiserFS
[12:27] <icy_> system valume should be ext3
[12:27] <anton> Daonix: ok then thanks.. Im new in linux and i want to learn more about ubuntu
[12:27] <prodigel> Daonix: Just restarted my system. restarting gdm gave a black screen, restarting X, after login nothing was displayed. any other ideas
[12:27] <prodigel> ?
[12:27] <anton> Daonix: ReiserFS???
[12:27] <Daonix> yes!
[12:28] <anton> Daonix: what is the diff between Ext2 and ReiserFS?
[12:28] <Daonix> there ar some problems appearing sometimes with ext3...
[12:28] <anton> Daonix: why?
[12:28] <Pici> anton: Reiserfs is not reccomended for users who do not have a specific need to use it
[12:28] <Daonix> the first problem: it sometimes doesn`t installs
[12:29] <Daonix> Pici, not true
[12:29] <anton> ?????
[12:29] <anton> :)
[12:29] <Daonix> ext3 is wery unlikely for Reset-users))
[12:29] <icy_> Daonix: there's a reason why ext3 is the default with most distros
[12:29] <Pici> Daonix: reset users?
[12:30] <anton> Daonix: Reset-users?
[12:30] <prodigel> Daonix: sorry for the private, by mistake
[12:30] <Daonix> peoples, who have habit of using Reset as often as in Windows...
[12:30] <icy_> what are you talking about?
[12:30] <icy_> it's a journaled fs, no problems there
[12:30] <Pici> Daonix: No one should do that regardless of the operating system, and is a silly reason for choosing one FS over another
[12:30] <_mika> tomorrow will be released hardy, right? does someone know if there is any specific time? or just during the day ?
[12:30] <Daonix> prodigel, u have reinstalled all three packages and it didnt help?
[12:31] <prodigel> Daonix: reinstalled nautilus
[12:31] <prodigel> Daonix: what are the other 2?
[12:31] <Pici> _mika: no specific time, you can wait in #ubuntu-release-party for the announcement though
[12:31] <Daonix> prodigel, try reinstalling metacity
[12:31] <_mika> Pici: ok
[12:32] <prodigel> Daonix: so nautilus, metacity and the thirds one is?
[12:32] <bastid_raZor> Daonix; reiserfs is dead..
[12:32] <anton> Daonix: ok then .. Ill use feiser. are there any complications using Feiser?
[12:32] <torgrimt> why is it dead?
[12:32] <icy_> do not use reiser
[12:32] <Daonix> prodigel, try alsa reinstall compiz...
[12:32] <Pici> !reiser | anton please read this
[12:32] <ubotu> anton please read this: reiserfs is a journalling file system, which outperforms many others on I/O operations, but has drawbacks (such as increasing likelihood of data loss, and introducing latency unsuitable for gaming or real-time audio). Using !ext3, the default on Ubuntu, is *highly* recommended. A read-only Windows driver is available at http://p-nand-q.com/download/rfstool.html
[12:32] <prodigel> Daonix: not using compiz
[12:32] <torgrimt> there was resently some patches in the kernel for it? ;)
[12:32] <icy_> anton: ext3 is perfectly stable, use this. it's the most used one
[12:33] <torgrimt> ext3 is pretty slow
[12:33] <JPSman> HELP I have no functioning internet now.  I know that sounds like a joke but really I dont
[12:33] <torgrimt> for a workstation its fine ;)
[12:33] <prodigel> Daonix: one more thing: I'm using --purge usually when removing packages. should I do the same with these ones?
[12:33] <anton> icy: well ok .. thanks
[12:33] <JPSman> using my laptop to talk to you guys
[12:33] <anton> icy: i guess ill stick to ext3
[12:33] <bastid_raZor> torgrimt; the creator is in jail for murder. reiser4 is the new yet unimplemented file system
[12:33] <icy_> anton: it's the default with ubuntu anyway :)
[12:34] <Daonix> prodigel, i used "sudo apt-get remove" and then installed. It helped
[12:34] <anton> do i need a voting poll for feiser and ext3? lol
[12:34] <sajuuk> hey fellas, been upgrading dapper to hardy
[12:34] <anton> icy: i guess ur right :)
[12:34] <Pici> sajuuk: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[12:34] <anton> icy: u have a point
[12:34] <sajuuk> rightio thx
[12:35] <Daonix> anton, it is not voting, it is Holywar ]:->
[12:35] <ironic_isnt_it> im using ubuntu 7.10. how would i switch from alsa to oss for all sound on my pc? im a total linux newb yes lol.
[12:35] <anton> lol holy war..
[12:35] <anton> icy: got any messenger?
[12:35] <torgrimt> bastid_raZor: its still open source.
[12:36] <torgrimt> do you think linux will die if mister torvalds goes to jail?
[12:36] <Daonix> anton, the default messenger is Pidgin
[12:36] <torgrimt> or bill gates?
[12:36] <alteregoa> how can i speedup ext3?
[12:36] <guja_nebeska> Ojha.
[12:36] <ironic_isnt_it> anyone can tell me how, under what menu?
[12:37] <torgrimt> alteregoa: you can speed up with diabling journal(dont do that..) or you can mount fs with noadirtime and so
[12:37] <guja_nebeska> Anyone using Hardy on Macbook?
[12:37] <anton> Daonix: i have a built in cam and pidgin doesnt have camera chat.. are there any that supports webcam?
[12:37] <Daonix> torgrimt, can u write scripts without Torvald`s bless?
[12:37] <jasu> hello, anyone using Ubuntu 8.04 + scim + amsn , and experiences keyboard lock-ups? and text disappearing when typing on kmail with scim?
[12:38] <Daonix> anton, may be u should try Ekiga?
[12:38] <anton> Daonix: ok thank you
[12:39] <icy_> my mousewheel stopped scrolling (nautilus, firefox etc) but clicking still works. what could be the cause for that?
[12:39] <Daonix> !enlightenment
[12:39] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[12:39] <torgrimt> Daonix: yes? ;)
[12:39] <Daonix> yes))
[12:39] <anton> Daonix: right now im downloading gutsy for my specific laptop and its the size is too big about 4.2 GB I Hope it works im way excited :)
[12:40] <Daonix> and don`t care about our Torvald`s)
[12:41] <Daonix> anton, it would work. I bless You))))
[12:41] <ironic_isnt_it> i dont mean to be pushy but ive got to be leaving for work soon. can someone tell me how to do it?
[12:42] <anton> Daonix: are using a laptop 2? coz its my 1st time to install in laptop
[12:43] <sploby> Can some one help me with setting a dual monitor with ATI?
[12:43] <Daonix> I am using on laptop too. There are no problems
[12:43] <anton> Daonix: really what is the brand of yours?
[12:44] <JPSman> How can I revert my rt2500 driver back to the original install?
[12:44] <Daonix> Toshiba Satellite(((
[12:44] <anton> Daonix: oh i see .. nice..
[12:44] <Viele-baeren> hi
[12:44] <Daonix> anton, the first thing to do: find hard drive saving applet %)
[12:45] <Akhorahil> hi all, someone around who uses ebox on 8.04?
[12:45] <anton> Daonix: what is hard drive saving applet?
[12:46] <Pici> Akhorahil: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[12:46] <Daonix> i don`t know how to say it in english... find out about HDD spoiling...
[12:46] <Akhorahil> yeah already did, shame on me for not reading the topic first
[12:46] <anton> Daonix: what does it do?
[12:47] <Pars1> hi, i think my second hard disk that i installed Ubuntu on it don't work, therefore GRUB cannot be loaded on start-up and shows "Error 5", can i remove GRUB and run my Windows XP (i have installed Windows XP)?
[12:47] <Leeuw> How do I get my menubar back in Kopete ?
[12:47] <ironic_isnt_it> i wanna switch from alsa to oss for all sound on my pc. how do i do it?
[12:49] <anton> Daonix: is it for backup??
[12:49] <Daonix> anton, read here http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3675960&postcount=26
[12:49] <LainIwakura> I am preparing to reinstall Windows and Ubuntu 8.04.. Is there a way to install WinXP on a preconfigured partition, so I can simply install 8.04 on the remaining empty partition? Thanks.
[12:49] <Daonix> i`m not sure the problem is solved in 8.04
[12:50] <ironic_isnt_it> this is my first time using irc. my messages are goin through right?
[12:50] <anton> Daonix: ok ill read it 1st..
[12:50] <Pars1> anyone read my question?
[12:50] <LainIwakura> ironic_isnt_it: yes it is
[12:50] <Leeuw> ironic_isnt_it: yes they are, eventhough ours don´ t ;-)
[12:51] <erUSUL> !dualboot | LainIwakura
[12:51] <ubotu> LainIwakura: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[12:51] <Daonix> !E
[12:51] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[12:51] <d4t4min31> wasn't the release supposed to be today
[12:51] <LainIwakura> i read that already, but thanks
[12:51] <LainIwakura> it doesn't provide instructions on how to install winxp on a preconfigured partition size
[12:51] <d4t4min31> yesterday the site said one day to go... today it still says one day to go
[12:51] <yowshi> i get it now. for some reason when sound recorder is on and i use cheese to record video while sound recorder is recording sound the webcam shuts off
[12:52] <ironic_isnt_it> ok cool if someone can just tell me how to switch over to oss ill be out yallz hair ;-)
[12:53] <yowshi> i want to record videos with sound and i would prefer not to use cinerella. i cant figure out how to make that programme work
[12:53] <anton> Daonix: can u teach how do i start as soon as i finish downloading my gutsy?
[12:54] <anton> Daonix: can u teach me how do i start as soon as i finish downloading my gutsy?
[12:54] <Daonix_afk> not now, sorry
[12:54] <anton> Daonix: ok
[12:54]  * Daonix_afk is not here
[12:54] <aaronM> hi
[12:55] <bazhang> anton: teach you what
[12:56] <Ulmi> hi all, i'm swithching to ubuntu on my work but my system admins know less than me about linux! Everthing is going smoothly except to the network printers
[12:57] <Ulmi> the printers are on a windows server domain that i access with no fuss and added the xerox worcenter pro c2128 printer without any problem and use the ppd that's on the xerox site for the printer.
[12:57] <anton> bazhang: how do i start installing my laptop with ubuntu gutsy..
[12:57] <Ulmi> However the problem I run into is that the printer as job accounts ID, so when i try to print, cups or ubuntu doesn't ask me for that password, does anyone know how to get around this? Try to search the  forum and google about with no success, any help is welcome and thnx in advance for ur time or any help.
[12:57] <bazhang> anton: this is the livecd?
[12:57] <Robert125> Is the date of tomorrow still right for the new ubuntu version?
[12:57] <bazhang> Robert125: yes
[12:57] <sploby> anyone?
[12:58] <Robert125> thanks
[12:58] <JPSman> can anyone help me revert my rt2500 drivers back to 8.04 ac's distro?
[12:58] <anton> bazhang: ahmm.. im still downloading the ISO image
[12:58] <bazhang> sploby: late getting here; what is your issue
[12:58] <sploby> dual monitor on ATI driver
[12:58] <bazhang> anton: does not answer my question
[12:59] <bazhang> sploby: dual head or shared desktop with two monitors
[12:59] <anton> bazhang: livecd?
[12:59] <anton> bazhang:  Dell OS Reinstallation 7.10 DVD ISO
[12:59] <sploby> bazhang: Dual Head, because right now i just have  monitor but one of them is a clone
[13:00] <bazhang> !dualhead | sploby read this first
[13:00] <ubotu> sploby read this first: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[13:01] <mrkeishii_> okay
[13:01] <mrkeishii_> lol
[13:02] <ironic_isnt_it> this is a simple question. can someone plz tell me how to switch from alsa to oss for all sound on my pc? 7.10 is my version
[13:02] <Adys> Any idea how to enable the virtual terminals? for some reason i lost them all at some point
[13:02] <anton> bazang: im downloading it and then i will burn it in dvd..
[13:03] <sploby> bazhang; thank you i will read, if i get nothing i recall help here ^_^
[13:04] <bazhang> sploby: no worries ;]
[13:05] <anton> bazhang: are you using a laptop?
[13:05] <bazhang> anton: yes but not a dell
[13:05] <anton> bazhang: what is it?
[13:05] <bazhang> anton: thinkpad
[13:06] <ushimitsudoki> ironic_isnt_it: actually I'm not sure that is a simple question...I think applications chose which sound system to use, so you will have to take some action for each application that requires it?
[13:06] <anton> bazhang: i see does it have a windows pre installed on it ?
[13:06] <bazhang> anton: it did for about 10 minutes ;]
[13:08] <anton> bazhang: r u using ubuntu right now? do u encountered problems during installation of linux?
[13:08] <bazhang> anton: yes am using ubuntu now; no problems with installation since feisty
[13:10] <anton> bazhang: do u use the entire disk for ubuntu?
[13:11] <arios> somebody help me
[13:11] <Pici> arios: You need to ask a question first
[13:11] <udha> with what?
[13:12] <ironic_isnt_it> ushimitsudoki i see that i can change it in system > preferrences > sound just need to change all to oss right?
[13:12] <arios> i'm new in ubuntu
[13:12] <JPSman> can anyone tell me about modules.dep?
[13:12] <arios> how can i enable duo moniter?
[13:12] <udha> System - > Admin -> Screens and Graphics
[13:12] <JPSman> arios: what version are you running?
[13:13] <arios> 7.10
[13:13] <udha> arios, you will need to be an administrator to use that tool though.
[13:13] <arios> ok
[13:13] <bazhang> anton: aye
[13:13] <dfmr> Hi
[13:13] <udha> Any old-time xorg/xfree86 conf file hackers around?
[13:14] <ikonia> udha: whats the problem
[13:14] <user11> i am on !hardy
[13:14] <user11> :-))
[13:14] <ikonia> user11: hardy support is in #ubuntu+1
[13:14] <user11> !hardy
[13:14] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[13:14] <ushimitsudoki> ironic_isnt_it: What i mean is I think some applications ignore that and won't use oss unless you take application-specific action? I know for example, I need to force some oss-only apps to use alsa so they play nice together. I assume it works the same way in reverse, like games that use ALSA, you have to manually force them to use OSS? Just something to keep in mind
[13:14] <pTeraBiT> hey
[13:14] <the0> hello
[13:14] <blivori> how do I make a user to autologin o nstartup?
[13:14] <the0> how do i enebale desktop effects in 8.04 (I got an ati)
[13:14] <ahmad> hello
[13:15] <udha> ikonia, I have ubuntu 7.10, had internal graphics disabled, then added a geforce 6600 pci express, it's gone now, and the internal graphics keeps resetting to 640x480
[13:15] <Pici> the0: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[13:15] <udha> I have to keep running dpkg-reconfigure on the xorg-server
[13:15] <DracoZA_> blivori, System - Administration - Login Window
[13:15] <ikonia> udha: ok, so your now only running of your internal graphics card ?
[13:15] <ironic_isnt_it> ok so for some apps it wont work ill need to force 'em
[13:15] <dfmr> I have a problem with PHP. I followed this guide :http://joeabiraad.com/linuxunix/installing-lamp-on-ubuntu-710-linuxapachemysqlphp/100 . I did everything as they say and can't get apache parse PHP code. What can be the reason?
[13:15] <XB23> guys is it possible to do a clean install of mysql using apt-get so it removes everything and starts it again?
[13:15] <user11> On hardy which is the best java package to install which wont break and gives me Java and Jre together
[13:15] <blivori> DracoZA_: thanks <3
[13:16] <udha> dfmr, do you have a link available so I can see the output of a php test page? such as <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[13:16] <Pici> user11: Please ask in #ubuntu+1 not #ubuntu
[13:16] <udha> XB23, ther is a way to get apt to purge all files,
[13:16] <ahmad> I have ubuntu 7.10 and have skystar2 but dvice not here
[13:16] <XB23> how do i do that udha?
[13:16] <dfmr> It parse this function. It displays it as plain text
[13:17] <dfmr>  It deosnt parse this function.