[00:00] <Dreakon> kerpali86, okay, thanks :)  Could I safely just put in fake information when registering?
[00:00] <chelz> NightCor3: try #windows
[00:00] <kerpali86> Dreakon: I always do. lol
[00:00] <chelz> NightCor3: hey try #windows. try #windows go to the channel #windows
[00:00] <mka> grkblood13, if you are not adventurous, you rather stick to what you know or do a clean install
[00:00] <NightCor3> i tired thanks
[00:00] <NightCor3> but no one know
[00:00] <kerpali86> Dreakon: I register fake account a lot using the names of vice president.. my Xbox Live account has me as Al Gore.
[00:00] <obladda> klausf: There should be a passthrough menu option
[00:00] <chelz> grkblood13: upgrading is fine if you've used 9.04
[00:01] <jolaren> Are both of these ram memorys? /0/31                           memory         128MiB System Memory
[00:01] <Dreakon> kerpali86: Lol, I'm sure he appreciates that. ;)
[00:01] <Blue1> purpleGecko: thanks works great...
[00:01] <chelz> NightCor3: this is an ubuntu channel so the chance that someone here knows is even lower
[00:01] <NightCor3> i know but i try
[00:01] <chelz> jolaren: depends on where you got those from "/0/31" doesn't look like one
[00:01] <purpleGecko> Blue1: no worries! have fun
[00:01] <kerpali86> Dreakon: yah, turns out Al Gore sucks at Modern Warfare 2. =P
[00:02] <jolaren> chelz; How do I see how much memory I have?
[00:02] <Kristopher424> I'm running ubuntu and I KNOW I have an SMTP server installed, because I use it...but I forgot which one it is...what's the easiest way to tell?
[00:02] <kerpali86> coachJ: make sure you install after you killed X
[00:02] <mka> jolaren, free -m
[00:02] <kerpali86> coach: and after you kill gdm.
[00:02] <chelz> jolaren: open up System Monitor, or do "free -m" (without the quotes in the terminal
[00:02] <klausf> oblada:: thans I'll look for the passthrough for ctrl-alt-somekey
[00:03] <chelz> jolaren: "free -m" states the figures in megabytes (mebibytes specifically)
[00:03] <kerpali86> jolaren: free -m. IGNORE the first row completely.. ubuntu aggressively caches into memory.. read only the 2nd row
[00:03] <jolaren> Mem:           118         55         63          0          9         27
[00:03] <jolaren> -/+ buffers/cache:         17        100
[00:03] <jolaren> Swap:          172          0        172
[00:04] <kerpali86> you only have 100MB of memory?
[00:04] <mka> jolaren, probably 128MB
[00:05] <charlie__> when using synaptic package manager where do i find the downloads
[00:05] <Schui> hello, is there a support channel for open office?
[00:05] <kerpali86> jolaren: it appears that 17 MB is used, with 100MB free.. that's crazy. what are you running? a server?
[00:05] <jolaren> mka; THat's what I thought.. I see two memory sticks in the computer but I don't think both are active
[00:05] <hiexpo> imo
[00:05] <jolaren> kerpali86; Yes, a server.. I tried to stick in a 1024 mb DDR memory but it didn't boot
[00:05] <jolaren> kerpali86; Or I couldnt access it through ssh..
[00:06] <kerpali86> jolaren: some old mobos, limit 512MB per stick even if it's the proper type of memory for mobo
[00:06] <rizitis> I want ctr+alt+backspace to kill X how I do it ? (9.10)
[00:06] <Pici> !dontzap | rizitis
[00:06] <charlie__> where do ifind the downloads from synaptic
[00:06] <hiexpo> charlie__: - there all there just click statues than type the program in the window above
[00:06] <chelz> charlie__: use the center, not synaptic
[00:06] <zetheroo> I can print a test page but cannot print from Adobe Reader ... it seems the printer and says its ready .. but when I try to print it says "The print process returned an error. Please check whether the printer is connected to the machine" -- please help!
[00:06] <kerpali86> rizitis: cntrl+alt+f1 and then login and then type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[00:06] <rizitis> thansk Pici
[00:06] <jolaren> kerpali86; Is there anyway for me to checkup on this? 128mb ram is a bit low for me
[00:07] <obladda> klausf: xrandr
[00:07] <homebrewcider> hey there, I'm having a problem with my Xubuntu 9.10 install, my auto login doesn't work, and it takes me 5-6 manual login attempts before it lets me login. Is there a way to check what's going on and causing this problem?
[00:07] <charlie__> ?
[00:07] <charlie__> center
[00:07] <Pici> charlie__: /var/cache/apt/ is where apt packages go when they are downloaded.
[00:07] <ZykoticK9> charlie__, downloads go to /var/cache/apt/archives
[00:07] <chelz> homebrewcider: checking logs
[00:07] <kerpali86> jolaren: other than mobo manual, I can't really think of it. there's some command that lets you show you max memory, let me see if I can find it
[00:07] <homebrewcider> where to look though?
[00:08] <sharon_> ay guys
[00:08] <Crisis> what kind of errors are you getting?
[00:08] <sharon_> i need help with my mic
[00:09] <Erreon> Having problems with my Targus mouse.  Brand new just plugged it in and X/Y are inverted.  Running Ubuntu 9.10
[00:09] <kerpali86> jolaren: sudo lshw -C MEMORY
[00:09] <homebrewcider> if that's to me, I'm not getting error messages, just keeps going to login screen
[00:09] <sharon_> can one of yall help me with my mic problem
[00:10] <sharon_> kerpal
[00:10] <sharon_> help
[00:10] <Crisis> Hmm, that's weird.
[00:10] <eghm> homebrowcider on the login screen at the bottom have you tried the safe version of gnome?
[00:10] <Crisis> So the login just fails and takes you back to gdm?
[00:10] <eeeekyellowsnow> how do i find out what wireless card my laptop carries?
[00:10] <sharon_> please help
[00:11] <sharon_> i need to get my mic working
[00:11] <Crisis> Sharon, is it a laptop?
[00:11] <hal_2010> when did it start sharon?
[00:11] <sharon_> yes
[00:11] <sharon_> its a laptop
[00:11] <mka> eeeekyellowsnow, lspci | grep -i wireless
[00:11] <eghm> i get a login loop to, on my VMWare 9.10 safe gnome is fine for me - homebrewcider on the login screen at the bottom have you tried the safe version of gnome?
[00:11] <homebrewcider> crisis- takes me back to  login screen, I enter user name and password, it tries and takes me back to where I enter user name again
[00:12] <kerpali86> sharson_: what's wrong w/ your mic?
[00:12] <sharon_> ive had ubuntu for two month
[00:12] <homebrewcider> I'll try again and report back
[00:12] <sharon_> it  never worked
[00:12] <Eremite>  am I supposed to use the app CREOX if you cant hear your mic via your speakers in Ubuntu?
[00:12] <hal_2010> and it just started? after an update maybe?
[00:12] <eeeekyellowsnow> mka: many thanks
[00:12] <Eremite> how am I supposed to use the app CREOX if you cant hear your mic via your speakers in Ubuntu?
[00:12] <sharon_> i cant record
[00:12] <jolaren> kerpali86; Comp kinda died on me testing asap
[00:12] <sharon_> i need it for skype
[00:12] <allyourbass> how do i add a picture for my user at the login screen
[00:12] <mka> sharon_, write on one line and say exactly what is happening
[00:12] <mka> !enter | sharon_
[00:13] <mka> np, eeeekyellowsnow
[00:13] <kerpali86> sharon_: cat /proc/asound/cards output results here
[00:13] <sharon_> i cant record or hear nething
[00:13] <Crisis> Just curious, anyone here using tiling window managers?
[00:13] <allyourbass> i've tried just about everything and I cant get a image to show up as my user
[00:13] <kerpali86> jolaren: really? did it like crash or did it exit out?
[00:14] <Crisis> allyourbass, I don't think gdm supports user pictures.
[00:14] <Dreakon> kerpali86: I'm getting a list of Operating Systems, but I don't see Ubuntu.
[00:14] <kerpali86> sharon_: I had the same problem. You have to enable mic using volume control, it starts off disabled/no volume usually
[00:14] <allyourbass> it has the stupid like blank picture there next to my name, but i guess that would explain why im getting no where
[00:15] <Eremite> how am I supposed to use the app CREOX from the repos if you cant hear your mic via your speakers in Ubuntu?  How is it possible to use this app?
[00:15] <Crisis> I wish I could be of more help, but I don't use gdm.
[00:15] <tomkat> has anyone had issues with their SBAudigy 4?
[00:15] <Crisis> Bass, try posting on the forums. As I said, I don't think it's possible but it doesn't hurt to ask.
[00:15] <craigbass1976> I have a kodak camera that Fspot sees when I plug it in, but is there a way to just browse the camera?  I'm not sure how to put 2 and 2 together when I do a mount, lsubs, and ls of /dev
[00:15] <Crisis> Your problem will get a lot more attention on the forums.
[00:15] <sharon_> um nevermind i just fixed it
[00:15] <Erreon> Having problems with my Targus mouse.  Brand new just plugged it in and X/Y are inverted for some reason.  Running Ubuntu 9.10
[00:15] <allyourbass> 10-4 will try there
[00:15] <SietseM> Crisis: I did for a while and am interested in going back.
[00:16] <allyourbass> thanks
[00:16] <zetheroo> I can print a test page but cannot print from Adobe Reader ... it seems the printer and says its ready .. but when I try to print it says "The print process returned an error. Please check whether the printer is connected to the machine" -- please help!
[00:16] <kerpali86> shardon_: right click on the speaker icon on you top right of ubuntu and then edit > preference and check mic boost.. make sure the volume levels of the mic are high and the boost level. Do the mic check w/ skype again an
[00:16] <rizitis> allyourbass, you can put your picture at booting http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-add-a-splash-image-to-grub-2-on-ubuntu-9.04
[00:16] <Crisis> rizitis
[00:16] <Crisis> That's not what he means.
[00:16] <Crisis> He wants a user picture, not a bootsplash.
[00:16] <kerpali86> sharo_; also mess around w/ your input sources until it works. it's usually trial and error
[00:17] <homebrewcider> ok, that time, on restart, the auto login failed but it let me login on the first manual attempt. But something is amiss, where would I check logs? I've never checked logs before
[00:17] <sharon_> thank u very much
[00:17] <Crisis> Sharon, post on the forums. Make sure to give your laptop model.
[00:17] <kerpali86> Dreakon: hmm that's strange
[00:17] <sharon_> i just got it to work
[00:17] <Crisis> grats.
[00:17] <mka> craigbass1976, i dont think  you can easily browse files, rather instead put the pics on an SD card rather than the internal memory of the card
[00:17] <AlHafoudh> hi guys
[00:17] <AlHafoudh> how can I setup different keyboard layout in wine ?
[00:17] <allyourbass> rizitis, I'm just trying to add a face next to my logon name, just for vanity
[00:17] <Eremite> Audio question: how am I supposed to use the Guitar app CREOX from the repos if you cant hear your mic via your speakers in Ubuntu?  How is it possible to use this app?
[00:18] <homebrewcider> ok, that time, on restart, the auto login failed but it let me login on the first manual attempt. But something is amiss, where would I check logs? I've never checked logs before
[00:18] <sharon_> ok i was wondering y my computer screen goes crazy when i wake up my computer from the screensaver
[00:18] <sharon_> i have laptop by the way
[00:18] <Crisis> Define "crazy"
[00:18] <Dreakon> kerpali86: Yeah.  It has Moblin 2.0 Linux Kernal, Fedora 10 Kernal, Fedora Core 7, Wind River Linux and Red Hat Linux
[00:18] <mka> AlHafoudh, go to the wine channel
[00:18] <AlHafoudh> mka: its invite only
[00:19] <AlHafoudh> mka:  oh it work,s thanks
[00:19] <mka> AlHafoudh, get yourself invited then
[00:19] <iflema> Eremite confirm which mic input is selected, maybe mess with mic boost and of course confirm you mic actually works or things arnt muted
[00:19] <sharon_> crazy-my screen flashes rapidly after i wake it up from the screensaver
[00:19] <kerpali86> Dreakon: hmm red hat should work.. it's just using alien for rpm.. linux is linux
[00:20] <Crisis> What kind of gpu does your laptop have?
[00:20] <Crisis> If you don't know, can I have the model?
[00:20] <Eremite> iflema, i record audio all the time with this machine when I had windows.  I know how to set up the sound system to get the mic to work, and it records.  Im asking about Creox and getting sound to come out of your speakers.  If you have a mic, plug it in and tell me if you can get sound out of the speakers, live.
[00:20] <CyL> does ubuntu 8.10 provide native support for virtio-net?
[00:20] <kerpali86> Dreakon: it'll install files in weird places though, like /etc has like diff meaning than it does on like ubuntu
[00:20] <sharon_> i have a acer
[00:20] <iflema> Eremite me.... yes
[00:20] <Crisis> Acer what?
[00:20] <sharon_> the model is aspires100
[00:21] <Crisis> thanks, hang on.
[00:21] <Eremite> iflema, are you using karmic?
[00:21] <sharon_> them brand of computer i have is acer
[00:21] <nickkontos> help! i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/363544/ when i try this sox -c 2 -s -w -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp -w -r 32000 /dev/dsp  (which i need to run normaly so i can have sound with my tv card)
[00:21] <iflema> Eremite works just fine.... at least you know your mic works:)
[00:21] <craigbass1976> mka, my computer came out just before card readers were standard issue on PCs.  Oh well.  I'll get one next time.
[00:21] <kerpali86> Dreakon: try gksu displayconfig-gtk before you install
[00:21] <Eremite> iflema, I can record audio via the mic but I cannot hear the audio via the mic, live.  Therefore, you cannot use Creox.
[00:22] <mka> coward
[00:22] <Crisis> Sharon, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:22] <MrUnix> nickkontos, what's the -w option supposed to be?
[00:22] <sharon_> im using ubuntu studio
[00:22] <kerpali86> Dreakon: usually intel drivers work out of the box w/ Ubuntu, this is very strange that intel doesn't offer .deb
[00:23] <Crisis> Any particular reason why?
[00:23] <iflema> Eremite ooo. thats a nice little app.....
[00:23] <Dreakon> kerpali86: That's unfortunate... lol
[00:23] <sharon_> im a dj
[00:23] <Crisis> ah.
[00:23] <Eremite> iflema, it doesnt work.
[00:23] <Crisis> 9.10 right?
[00:23] <sharon_> yes
[00:23] <mka> DJ sharon_ !
[00:23] <allyourbass> Crisis, i ran this, it looks like i might just need a gdm theme that supports faces like you said http://paste.ubuntu.com/363547/
[00:23] <kerpali86> Dreakon: it's all linux. any of those should work fine though where it will install files will be diff.. the kernels are radically diff enough to break anything.
[00:24] <nickkontos> MrUnix, i donno! :(
[00:24] <sharon_> yeah i rock!!!!
[00:24] <kerpali86> Dreakon: aren't*
[00:24] <mka> hehehe
[00:24] <nickkontos> MrUnix,  i found it here http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/debian-ubuntu-linux-configure-pinnacle-pctv-tuner.html
[00:24] <MrUnix> nickkontos, your man page (see in your pastebin) doesn't list it as an option. Just remove it and try running the same command.
[00:24] <homebrewcider> I've not checked logs before, but in the /var/log/auth.log file there seems to be a lot of entries   <pam_ck_connector(gdm:session): nox11 mode, ignoring PAM_TTY :0>    is this significant?
[00:24] <jolaren> kerpali86; crashed.. dno what 2 do.. heck of a bother.. graphiccard is semi broken so cant read of the screen
[00:24] <Dreakon> kerpali86: Alright... would you recommend any kernal over another?
[00:25] <Shizuo> What is the offtopic channel?
[00:25] <MrUnix> !ot | Shizuo
[00:25] <Shizuo> Thanks
[00:25] <MrUnix> No prob bud
[00:25] <sharon_> im still here im jus waitin
[00:26] <kerpali86> Dreakon: not really. To me it's all the same in terms of drivers. I doubt intel provides source code so you can't compile it, or you might be able to if some parts are sourced. Hmm.. I'm stumped.. Check the forums
[00:26] <Crisis> Sharon, I'm sorry but I don't have an answer for you.
[00:26] <Crisis> Ubuntu has a lot of quirks with laptop hibernation.
[00:26] <Crisis> I suggest posting on the forums as I mentioned earlier.
[00:26] <nickkontos> MrUnix, well, cool! now i only get this "sox FAIL formats: no handler for given file type `ossdsp'"
[00:26] <sharon_> thanks neway
[00:26] <MrUnix> sharon_, what's the issue?
[00:26] <sharon_> its not really a prob
[00:26] <nickkontos> MrUnix, I had to remove both -w though
[00:26] <kerpali86> Dreakon: it appears to be a a common problem: http://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/showthread.php?t=63076
[00:27] <Meteor> Is anyone familiar with installing Cinelerra on ubuntu 9.10?
[00:27] <kerpali86> Dreakon: and a recent one at that.. hmm
[00:27] <sharon_> my computer screen goes crazy after i wake it up
[00:27] <Meteor> Is anyone familiar with installing Cinelerra on ubuntu 9.10? I am getting this while trying the deb command -> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m593cc4a5
[00:27] <MrUnix> nickkontos, what's the command you're running?
[00:27] <sharon_> from the screensaver
[00:27] <nickkontos> MrUnix, sox -c 2 -s -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp -r 32000 /dev/dsp
[00:27] <MrUnix> sharon_, what kind of crazy? Flashing/won't come on?/ etc?
[00:27] <sharon_> flashing very rapid
[00:28] <Dreakon> kerpali86: I see... is there anything I can do?
[00:28] <sharon_> it seems to flash worst when i move the mouse
[00:28] <Meteor> anyone can help me in installing Cinelerra video editting tool on Ubuntu 9.10?
[00:28] <Crisis> sharon, do you know by chance if your laptop uses an ati graphics card?
[00:28] <MrUnix> sharon_, one moment
[00:28] <sharon_> yeah i think it duz
[00:28] <MrUnix> nickkontos, run the command and paste me the output
[00:29] <Schui> hi, if anyone is good at open office BASIC can you look at my http://pastebin.com/d2c57a759 i could really use a hand
[00:29] <jolaren> kerpali86; My bad.. the memory sticks was loose
[00:29] <kerpali86> Dreakon: buy a dedicated graphics card? lol. Try this site: http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/detect.htm and get the specific G43 driver, it should give you the option to make an xorg
[00:29] <MrUnix> sharon_, lspci and pastebin the output here please.
[00:29] <Crisis> When you first installed ubuntu, did it ask you to install restricted hardware?
[00:29] <nickkontos> MrUnix, the output is this --> sox FAIL formats: no handler for given file type `ossdsp'
[00:29] <kerpali86> jolaren: lol, it happens. =D
[00:29] <Crisis> specifically a "Radeon" driver?
[00:29] <IdleOne> Meteor: you are supposed to add the deb line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:29] <MrUnix> nickkontos, that's it?
[00:29] <jolaren> kerpali86; What was the memory command now again?
[00:29] <sharon_> what dose that mean
[00:30] <nickkontos> MrUnix, yeah, that's pretty it...
[00:30] <Dreakon> kerpali86: I have a laptop, dedicated graphics won't help much. ;)
[00:30] <mka> sharon_, you can check graphics card using 'lspci | grep -i graphics'
[00:30] <Crisis> Thanks mka.
[00:30] <sharon_> ok
[00:30] <MrUnix> nickkontos, every other command before this one on that page worked?
[00:30] <aaron11> Where is the Canonical store located?
[00:30] <sharon_> do i input that n the terminal
[00:30] <MrUnix> sharon_, yes
[00:30] <Dreakon> kerpali86: "This device is unknown or unsupported."  That page isn't bringing anything up. :(
[00:31] <sharon_> one sec
[00:31] <jolaren> kerpali86; sudo lshw -C MEMORY nvm
[00:31] <kerpali86> Dreakon: lol that is a problem.. well if it's a laptop drivers. Then sometimes graphics drivers don't play well unless you get it directly from your manufacturer. LCD screens and stuff are standardized now but I sometimes you might have to get the drivers off the company's website vs intel's website.
[00:31] <nickkontos> MrUnix, well, yeah, it hasn't got anything important though
[00:31] <cinelerrahelp> anyone can help me in installing cinelerra?
[00:31] <IdleOne> aaron11: do you mean the physical address or online?
[00:32] <Euthanatos> Hi, I'm trying to boot slackware from Ubuntu's grub.  My problem seems to be that I have a seperate partition for /boot in Slackware and Grub doesn't seem to recognize booting through the Slackware parition's link to the /boot partition.  How can I tell it to reference correctly?
[00:32] <Dreakon> kerpali86: Off of Asus's website?  I don't think they have Linux drivers...
[00:32] <MrUnix> What do you mean it hasn't got anything important?
[00:32] <nickkontos> MrUnix, I mean, I've done all these my self before and the outputs are the same as far as the tvcard's spec are conserned, except...
[00:32] <mka> Euthanatos, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:32] <Euthanatos> 9.04
[00:33] <sharon_> ok now what am i looking for
[00:33] <Aeryal> hello
[00:33] <MrUnix> sharon_, Please paste the output of that command into chat for us.
[00:33] <hal_2010> welcome to the machine
[00:33] <MrUnix> !hi | Aeryal
[00:33] <kerpali86> Dreakon: did IEGD not work?
[00:34] <Aeryal> does anybody has a ps3 with linux?
[00:34] <MrUnix> !ask | Aeryal
[00:34] <mka> Euthanatos, I always frown upon a separate /boot partition, nevertheless, did you try to chainload to the /boot partition ?
[00:34] <IdleOne> Aeryal: #ubuntu-ps3
[00:34] <Dreakon> kerpali86: I'm downloading the Fedora 10 kernal one at the moment.  Hopefully installing it is fairly self explanitory lol.
[00:34] <jolaren> kerpali86; Could you translate this output for me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/363550/
[00:34] <nickkontos> MrUnix, http://paste.ubuntu.com/363551/
[00:34] <Aeryal> thank you !
[00:34] <Crisis> What does it spit out sharon?
[00:34] <sharon_> r  you ready for me to paste it
[00:34] <Euthanatos> hmm i'm not sure how to do that i thought chainloading was for windoze
[00:35] <IdleOne> sharon_: wait
[00:35] <kerpali86> Dreakon: lol hopefully..
[00:35] <Crisis> Don't paste it.
[00:35] <IdleOne> !paste | sharon_
[00:35] <homebrewcider> one thing I noticed in the log file is <session opened for user mal by (uid=0)> shouldn't the uid number be higher than that?
[00:35] <sharon_> o god
[00:35] <Euthanatos> Ah i see...into lilo that would be desirable
[00:35] <IdleOne> sharon_: if it is just one line you can paste here
[00:35] <mka> sharon_, i think its not more that 2 lines, go ahead and paste it otherwise if it is more use pastebin
[00:36] <sharon_> how do i use paste bin
[00:36] <Schui> hello, does anyone know open office basic or macros and could help me with my code? or if someone could point me to the correct channel, i'd appreciate it!
[00:36] <IdleOne> sharon_: go to paste.ubuntu.com paste the info then give us the url after you click the paste button
[00:36] <mka> sharon_, copy everything and paste it at http://paste.ubuntu.com
[00:36] <gantrixx> Is there any chance that Ubuntu would pull in Thunderbird 3.x before Debian pulled it in?
[00:36] <kerpali86> jolaren:  capacity: 1GiB. Thus for your whole memory controller, you can only have 1GB, thus 512MB each is probably the max, I doubt you can put in one 1GB stick into one slot and it'll work
[00:37] <jolaren> kerpali86; Is it possible to see if it supports ddr?
[00:37] <xauxau> tem alguem on?
[00:37] <kerpali86> jolaren: even if the memory is the same TYPE of memory and speed that you mobo can use, it'll probably still hit the limit. It's how older hardware is. Even BIOS upgrades can't change that.
[00:38] <IdleOne> !br | xauxau
[00:38] <sharon_> after i paste it what next
[00:38] <cinelerrahelp> !cinelerra
[00:38] <Schui> to elaborate my issue: i'm trying to convert an Excel macro to open office. it seems like its simple code but unfortunately im no programmer :S
[00:38] <IdleOne> sharon_: paste the url here
[00:38] <klausf> question again: how to configure size of xwindows with karmic. I don't have any windows manager installed and xorg.conf does not exist on my host
[00:38] <kerpali86> jolaren: it appears your memory does support DDR. PC3200
[00:39] <sharon_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/363555/
[00:39] <IdleOne> Crisis: ^^
[00:39] <Crisis> Hello
[00:39] <Crisis> :D
[00:39] <sebsebseb> Schui: Excell can be run under Wine, as well as the free Excel viewer from Microsoft, which I don't know if it can do Macros
[00:39] <sharon_> did you guys get it
[00:39] <jackhigh> gui_: ive had that problem it turned out that i actually had two libflashplayer.so files
[00:39] <IdleOne> sharon_: yup
[00:40] <kerpali86> jolaren: double check before you buy new memory though.. I usually use windows and use corsair's memory checker just to double check
[00:40] <sebsebseb> Schui: I think Macros are always going to be a bit hrm, when you try and open up Microsoft ones in other programs
[00:40] <sharon_> ok
[00:40] <jolaren> kerpali86; I found the manual.. it says "System memory can be increased up to 512 megabytes (MB) by installing Rambus in-line memory modules (RIMMs) in the RIMM sockets on the system board."
[00:40] <macman_> guys /dev/sda5              47G   44G  622M  99% / < -- how do i find out what is eating my space ?
[00:40] <macman_> guys /dev/sda5              47G   44G  622M  99% / < -- how do i find out what is eating my space ?
[00:40] <macman_> oops sorry guys
[00:40] <jolaren> kerpali86; Which supports your theory about 1024mb max.. in 2 slots 512mb.. needs to be RIMM
[00:40] <FloodBot3> macman_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:40] <Spreadsheet> Hi
[00:40] <Spreadsheet> I have something really weird happening
[00:41] <Spreadsheet> I am using 10.04 alpha
[00:41] <sebsebseb> !lucid | Spreadsheet
[00:41] <IdleOne> Spreadsheet: #ubuntu+1
[00:41] <Dreakon> kerpali86: It's a .exe file.  Is that supposed to be able to run on Ubuntu?
[00:41] <Schui> sebsebseb: its a visual basic macro someone wrote for excel, its pretty simple and i ran it thru a converter, but theres still a problem when i try and run it, was wondering if anyone knew the open office language or something
[00:41] <Spreadsheet> Ok
[00:41] <jolaren> kerpali86; Correct? That's what I belive.. max 2x 512 RIMMs
[00:41] <Schui> im just such a noob at this lol
[00:41] <sebsebseb> Schui: Visual Basic is not good, and as far as I know Open Office doesn't deal with such macros that well,  and not even KOffice for that matter, but could try that
[00:41] <kerpali86> Dreakon: no, but sometimes (1% of the time) .exe files are actually zip archives.. if it doesn't open, and it's for Windows
[00:42] <sharon_> im waitin ok
[00:42] <mka> sharon_, that is like an error message
[00:42] <kerpali86> jolaren: That's right. though I don't think you need RIMM. It's overpriced. Is this a serve motherboard or a desktop motherboard?
[00:42] <sharon_> ok
[00:42] <mka> sharon_, try again without quotes
[00:42] <Dreakon> kerpali86: I get an error when I try to open it, I guess it won't work?
[00:42] <sebsebseb> Schui: right well you need to start using alternatives to  Windows stuff, and you will be alright
[00:42] <Crisis> Sharon
[00:42] <emma> Is there a way to increase the buffer size on totem?
[00:42] <Crisis> wait
[00:42] <Crisis> guys
[00:42] <kerpali86> Dreakon: nope then it's a windows file. Umm try to find a tar.gz or .zip or something that's not an exe
[00:42] <Crisis> wouldn't it be: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[00:42] <jolaren> kerpali86; A desktop motherboard.. Old dell
[00:42] <sharon_> can u repost what i must type in the terminal
[00:43] <mka> sharon_, exactly this: lspci | grep -i graphics
[00:43] <Crisis> mka, are you sure it isn't lspci -nn | grep VGA
[00:43] <sebsebseb> Schui: also actsaully with enough RAM  and such, you could actsaully run Windows inside Ubuntu for most Windows programs
[00:43] <sharon_> how do i input that horizontal line
[00:43] <kerpali86> jolaren: Oh then you're fine. Find you some cheap sticks of memory. RIMM is considered overprices do you don't need RIMM exactly
[00:43] <Crisis> copy and paste?
[00:43] <IdleOne> sharon_: shift + \ will give you |
[00:43] <Schui> seb: wow.. O_o
[00:43] <jolaren> kerpali86; Like DDR?
[00:44] <mka> Crisis, I am not sure about your command either
[00:44] <Gstar> its lspci -nn | grep VGA
[00:44] <jolaren> kerpali86; Will be really sad if I buy 2 x 512mb DDR memory sticks and they don't work :P and 400 mhz cache?
[00:44] <jackhigh> jolaren: try crucial.com to find what memory you need
[00:44] <mka> sharon_, ok try what Crisis and Gstar are suggesting as well
[00:44] <sebsebseb> !wine | Schui
[00:45] <YangYin> anyone know if this is where i would ask to get some help about how to get a startup script to run in ubuntu jaunty?
[00:45] <nickkontos> MrUnix, It worked! i just had to install libsox-fmt-oss!
[00:45] <Crisis> lspci -nn | grep VGA
[00:45] <meway> ok so i updated my ubuntu version and now im stuck at a grub screen how do i get to my ubuntu desktop?
[00:45] <sebsebseb> Schui: Virtualbox  for  Windows virtualization there's an open source version in the repo that lacks USB support, and another free as in price version that you can get that has it.  http://www.virtualbox.org
[00:45] <meway> happend when i rebooted my computer im on my laptop
[00:45] <sebsebseb> Schui: How much RAM do you have,  also do you have a copy of Microsoft Office?
[00:46] <kerpali86> jolaren: RIMM is soooooo old it's crazy it's hard to tell what works on your computer anymore. But you should test it using corsair's online memory test. Launch windows and check it out before you spend a dime.
[00:46] <jolaren> jackhigh; Problem is I dont know my model
[00:46] <Schui> seb: i dont have excel, so it wouldnt make a lot of sense
[00:46] <mka> Crisis, Gstar , that interesting, you command works, thx
[00:46] <jolaren> kerpali86; Got no win cd.. certainly not anythin that will install on 182mb
[00:46] <goose> how can I disable gnome-panel? I don't see it in startup sessions
[00:46] <sebsebseb> Schui: ok well there's some sort of free excel viewer from Microsoft that will work in Wine.   That can maybe do your macro.
[00:46] <mka> sharon_, where you at?
[00:46] <sebsebseb> Schui: that can probably do your macro
[00:46] <jackhigh> jolaren: hmm doesnt the motherboard have a serial you could google ?
[00:46] <Schui> seb: so there is no way i can get this macro to work in open office?
[00:47] <zetheroo> I can print a test page but cannot print from Adobe Reader ... it seems the printer and says its ready .. but when I try to print it says "The print process returned an error. Please check whether the printer is connected to the machine" -- please help!
[00:47] <kerpali86> jolaren: I know theirs is some RIMM to PCxxxx equivalent table. I just can't find it.
[00:47] <trism> emma: in gconf-editor, there is both /app/totem/buffer-size and /app/totem/network-buffer-threshold; both in seconds, may be what you want
[00:47] <zetheroo> anyone here use Acrobat Reader to print in Ubuntu?
[00:47] <IdleOne> Schui: have you tried asking in #openiffice.org ?
[00:47] <nickkontos> MrUnix, so now when i run "sox -c 2 -s -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp -r 32000 /dev/dsp"  and then open another terminal and run  "sudo tvtime -d /dev/video1"  i can see tv and hear audio! Now, how can I avoid typing all these commands? can I save them somewhere so when i load tvtime they'll load automaticaly?
[00:47] <sebsebseb> Schui: probably is a way some how,  there's a channel for Open Ofice on here,  but the name is a bit confussing,  and not what IdleOne put
[00:47] <jolaren> jackhigh; I found a service number, will try to find somewhere to put it.. from dell
[00:47] <IdleOne> #openoffice.org
[00:47] <sharon_> im here
[00:48] <meway> How do I get to my desktop??? Im stuck in what looks like a tirminal with a blinking -
[00:48] <Erreon> How do you invert a mouse on Karmic when there is no xorg.conf?
[00:49] <sebsebseb> Schui: Gnumeric and KOffice  I think have macro support
[00:49] <kerpali86> jolaren: which RIMM # is the memory supported? Does the mobo manual say anything about PCxxxx?
[00:49] <sebsebseb> Schui: Microsoft Office macro support
[00:49] <sharon_> it gave me a web page
[00:49] <Gstar> meway type start x
[00:49] <jackhigh> meway: could be you graphics drivers reinstall them and reboot
[00:49] <meway> kk
[00:49] <meway> thx
[00:49] <sharon_> after i typed it in
[00:49] <IdleOne> Erreon: System>Settings>Mouse
[00:49] <Schui> seb: i'll try it, thanks
[00:49] <jolaren> kerpali86; I got the mobo for the whole system and it feels like it's supposed to cover several series, nothing of value really
[00:49] <Erreon> IdleOne: Not seeing it there
[00:50] <meway> worked :)
[00:50] <sebsebseb> Schui: KOffice will want to put on quite a lot of KDE stuff though, if you haven't installed KDE stuff before into Gnome/Ubuntu
[00:50] <jolaren> kerpali86; If I just find where to put my servicenumber on dell.com I think it will all be solved
[00:50] <nickkontos> In order to watch tv from my pc i have to run "sox -c 2 -s -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp -r 32000 /dev/dsp"  and then open another terminal and run  "sudo tvtime -d /dev/video1" - it's the only way i can see tv and hear audio (otherwise no audio) Now, how can I avoid typing all these commands? can I save them somewhere so when i load tvtime they'll load automaticaly?
[00:50] <YangYin> does anyone know how to get a script to startup on boot with jaunty? i have tried putting the script in /etc/init.d
[00:50] <sebsebseb> Schui: good luck
[00:50] <Perfec7> fefe iuahiuahsiush
[00:50] <jackhigh> jolaren: yea that will work it recognjises it even out of warranty
[00:50] <fefe> [Perfec7]: :)))
[00:50] <Schui> seb: thanks
 they are stored in your bash history which you can cycle through using the up arrow
[00:50] <Perfec7> 1350 usuarios
[00:50] <Perfec7> iuahsiuahsiuh
[00:50] <brandonban6> hey all, how do I bring up the "recovery console" in grub? It seems 9.10 fast boots to avoid the menu.
[00:50] <kerpali86> jolaren: http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/product_support/product_support_central
[00:50] <IdleOne> Erreon: Prefferences not Settings sorry.
[00:51]  * fefe viu...caraca!!!
[00:51] <jackhigh> brandonban6: hit esc
[00:51] <fefe> [Perfec7]: cada nick doido
[00:51] <Dreakon> kerpali86:  It looks like all of them are in EXE format...
[00:51] <Erreon> IdleOne: I mean not seeing it in the mouse config.  I only have the option to change right/left or click speed and stuff like that.  No inversion.
[00:51] <jolaren> kerpali86; It's a Dimension XPS B___r, now I will just try to find information about it
[00:52] <Gstar> brandonban nano /boot/grub/menu.ls and increase the time before auto select
[00:52] <IdleOne> Erreon: you mean from right handed to left handed correct?
[00:52] <kerpali86> Dreakon: oh then that's not going to work then. Hmm..
[00:52] <Dreakon> kerpali86: Bleh lol
[00:52] <kerpali86> Dreakon: look around, I'm sure there's a linux version there somewhere. =P
[00:52] <kerpali86> Dreakon: send me the url
[00:52] <brandonban6> magic, thanks jackhigh
[00:52] <Erreon> IdleOne: Yes but X/Y is inverted on my mouse and if I switch to right or left handed it is still inverted but the mouse buttons are switched
[00:53] <Dreakon> kerpali86: http://edc.intel.com/Software/Downloads/IEGD/#download
[00:53] <IdleOne> Erreon: hmm no idea sorry
[00:53] <Dreakon> kerpali86: unfortunately you need to be registered lol
[00:53] <Erreon> IdleOne: Thanks for trying
[00:53] <nickkontos> Gstar, yeah... I'm kinda in a friend's pc and he won't be happy if i tell him that he has to do all this stuff in order to watch tv...
[00:53] <PMantis> Hi guys, I used to have 8.10, then 9.04 on this box, and it still boots. However, I want to install 9.10 from scratch. Booting off the CD, and there are no partitions?!? However, fdisk will open /dev/sda. What gives?
[00:54] <KnifeySpooney> Why can I not format my usb thumb drive to ntfs? The only options are ext2,3,4, linux-swap, and fat16 and fat32
[00:54] <KnifeySpooney> Im using gparted btw
[00:54] <gammax500> hello - can anyone help me setup a Sprint 3G on ubuntu 9.1?
[00:55] <johntramp> is it possible to call firefox from the commandline and have it only open  the url if it is not already open in another tab, otherwise open that tab?
[00:55] <kerpali86> Dreakon: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=13815&ProdId=2300&lang=eng << I think this should work
[00:55] <kerpali86> Dreakon: I'm still surprised it doesn't work out of a box though.
[00:55] <Gstar> nickkontos you could add a launcher to the panel and set custom command and put the command in that way then could just click the launcher
[00:55] <tucemiux> anyone knows how I can post into the forum?!?  I am looking and looking and I can't find the place where i'm supposed to open a question
[00:55] <kerpali86> Dreakon: these drivers are already included in ubuntu
[00:56] <jackhigh> KnifeySpooney i think you need btfsprogs and ntfs-3g from the repos
[00:56] <jackhigh> sorry *ntfsprogs
[00:56] <tucemiux> i'm going to open a thousand threads in the forum once I figure out how to open one
[00:57] <kerpali86> Are these IRC chats logged?
[00:57] <KnifeySpooney> yep
[00:57] <kerpali86> There is a wealth of info there but it's not searchable at least I don't know where to search it
[00:57] <tucemiux> kerpali86, yup yup if you dont want the NSA to know about it, dont type it in here
[00:57] <Alan502> Hi, My kdm messed up :\. I installed ratpoison and fluxbox some days ago but it was until today that i logged in with fluxbox. I didn't like it so i logged out and chose KDE again. When i logged in, a white... black.. weird screen appeared only showing my mouse clearly. I removed fluxbox and ratpoison from a different tty and rebooted to see if that would help but my screen is still with those weird colors. I'm on irssi now!
[00:58] <Alan502> Please help!
[00:58] <gammax500> Hello can any help with sprint 3G setup on Ub. 9.1?
[00:58] <Alan502> I'm using kubuntu, btw
[00:58] <aspidites> are most games in ubuntu installed in /usr/share/ or /usr/games
[00:58] <KnifeySpooney> kerpali86: i could have sworn they gave a link to the logs in the channel topic, but I'm not seeing it now
[00:58] <IdleOne> kerpali86: irclogs.ubuntu.com
[00:58] <aspidites> on arch they seem to be falling in /opt or /usr/share/applications
[00:58] <kerpali86> lol, more poor NSA officers, while their friends hunting down terrorists they're watching the ubuntu irc channel. =P
[00:58] <Gstar> /usr/games
[00:58] <kerpali86> IdleOne: thanks
[00:59] <KnifeySpooney> jackhigh: thanks, ntfsprogs was the package I needed
[00:59] <jolaren> kerpali86; the little information I can find about Dimension XPS B___r is that it seems to be only rimm
[00:59] <tucemiux> gammax500, sprint 3g? setup?!?
[00:59] <Pici> !logs | kerpali86 KnifeySpooney
[00:59] <jackhigh> ;)
[00:59] <KnifeySpooney> thanks
[00:59] <obladda> Alan502: You probably have to select KDE as the session from the kdm login
[00:59] <obladda> Alan502: reselect
[00:59] <kerpali86> jolaren: well to play it safe, I would look at the memory you have now, and get the same type except 512
[01:00] <kerpali86> jolaren: like look at the physical stick of memory, it should have a serial or basic info on it
[01:00] <gammax500> tucemiux - sorry?  Yes, a sprint broadband car
[01:00] <gammax500> d
[01:00] <jolaren> kerpali86; Yer, seems to be 400 mhz rimm
[01:00] <kerpali86> thanks guys, I'll def. look over it
[01:00] <jolaren> kerpali86; my best shoot at finding those memories are at a dumpster
[01:00] <kerpali86> jolaren: lol or try ebay.. as long as it passed memtest86 then it's all good.
[01:01] <jackhigh> jolaren: http://discussions.virtualdr.com/archive/index.php/t-195751.html
[01:01] <tucemiux> gammax500, ahhh so you have a card that you can use to access sprint's 3g network, dont know if it's supported or not in ubuntu, i imagine you might have to use wvdial
[01:01] <kerpali86> jolaren: unless people are like messing w/ voltages or stuff, used memory should work fine. Just make sure you can return easily if it doesn't pass memtest86+
[01:02] <jackhigh> jolaren: it has max ram 2x 256 apparently
[01:02] <gammax500> tucemiux: I found some docs that say it is supported, but can't get it working
[01:02] <Gstar> !ubuntu server
[01:02] <gammax500> Any suggested next steps?
[01:02] <jolaren> jackhigh; Oh, thank god you told me.. I would have suicided or something If I went out n bought 2x 512
[01:03] <jackhigh> jolaren: and you must have a matching pair
[01:03] <jolaren> jackhigh; and rimm?
[01:03] <YangYin> anyone know how to start a script at boot in Jaunty?
[01:03] <YangYin> init.d does not seem to work anymore
[01:04] <jackhigh> yea rimm Rambus PC600, PC700, and PC800
[01:04] <tucemiux> gammax500, i highly suggest you use the forums for that, i seriously doubt youll find a lot of people that have experience with those issues, you have to be lucky and keep trying in the channel at different times and days, or you can use the forums
[01:04] <Alan502> help with my kdm!
[01:04] <gammax500> tucemius: ok, i'll do that
[01:04] <Erreon> Anyone know of an app to invert mouse on ubuntu? I can't figure out how to change my mouse which is inverted
[01:04] <gammax500> thanks
[01:05] <Alan502> !test
[01:05] <iflema> Eremite alsamixer crankup the mic and unmute, make sure ya up the right one.... it shoiuld then come out ya speakers
[01:06] <goose> I need some general help mounting my windows partition..I've got it set up under /etc/fstab, and mounted to /media/windows/, but anytime I try and open it (as local user) I get permission denied
[01:06] <jolaren> jackhigh; There's not a single store in Sweden who sells RIMMs anymore :-)
[01:06] <Alan502> I'm using kubuntu, and fluxbox messed up KDE. I installed fluxbox some days ago but it wasn't until today that i logged in with it. I didn't like it so i changed to KDE back but now kde is black with some white... it's f'ed up!
[01:07] <jackhigh> Erreon: cant you do sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg ? dosnt that reconfig the mouse and keyboard ?
[01:07] <jackhigh> Alan502: how about uninstalling kde too and reinstalling it again ?
[01:08] <jolaren> 45euro for 2x 256 mb RIMM memories.. is that a good price?
[01:08] <lisa_> Hello. Anyone available to answer some basic questions?
[01:08] <jackhigh> jolaren: yea vould be chaeperto get a new 2nd hand pc  :)
[01:08] <Alan502> jackhigh: sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop, sudo apt-get install kubuntu desktop?
[01:08] <kerpali86> jolaren: yah buying new, old memory at new memory prices is kinda crazy. =P
[01:08] <Gstar> goose not sure how you would do it in fstab or from console but if you mount it in gui should ask if you want to always mount it after entering sudo password then it should work from your fstab I think
[01:08] <Alan502> jackhigh: it will take too long! my d/l speed is 10kb/s
[01:09] <jolaren> jackhigh; Yes, that what really bothers me. I will try to look in old computers and see if I can find anytihng
[01:09] <kerpali86> jolaren: craigslist is another good place
[01:09] <jackhigh> Alan502 sudo apt-get remove adept akregator amarok amarok-gstreamer ark arts debtags enscript gtk2-engines-gtk-qt gwenview imagemagick ivman kaddressbook kaffeine kaffeine-gstreamer kamera kappfinder karm katapult kate kaudiocreator kcron kde-guidance kde-style-lipstik kde-systemsettings kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdebluetooth kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedi
[01:09] <Alan502> jackhigh: My install was with a kubuntu cd.
[01:09] <jackhigh> a-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-wizards kdeprint kdm kghostview khelpcenter kicker kio-apt kio-locate klaptopdaemon klipper kmail kmenuedit kmilo kmix knetworkconf knotes konq-plugins konqueror-nsplugins konserve konsole kontact konversation kooka kopete korganizer kpdf kpf kppp krdc krfb krita kscd kscreensaver ksmserver ksnapshot ksplash ksvg ksysguar
[01:09] <jackhigh> d ksysguardd ksystemlog kubuntu-artwork-usplash kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-docs kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts kuser kwalletmanager kwifimanager kwin libgadu3 libgpgme11 libjpeg-progs libkcal2a libkcddb1 libkdepim1 libkipi0 libkleopatra0a libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libkscan1 libksieve0 libktnef1 liblockdev1 libmimelib1a libopenobex-1.0-0 libpythonize0 libsensors3 libtdb1 openoffice.org2-kde
[01:09] <FloodBot3> jackhigh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:09] <jackhigh>  poster psutils python-kde3 python-opengl python2.4-dev python2.4-kde3 python2.4-opengl python2.4-qt3 python2.4-sip4-qt3 qca-tls qobex sanekonsole speedcrunch ttf-dejavu xlibs
[01:09] <nickkontos> hello, how can i add "sox -c 2 -s -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp -r 32000 /dev/dsp | tvtime -d /dev/video1" in a launcher on the gnome-panel?
[01:09] <jolaren> kerpali86; I see :-) I will try to look at the local dumpster haha
[01:09] <lisa_> I suppose I'll just ask. I've used ubuntu for a while, but just upgraded to 9.1. This new panel menu thing is driving me crazy. How can I get the old menu back?
[01:10] <Gstar> !pastebin |jackhigh
[01:10] <nickkontos> i can run it in a terminal but it doesn't work with the launcher
[01:10] <jackhigh> alan502 http://paste.ubuntu.com/363567/
[01:10] <Alan502> jackhigh: sounds like a lot of apps, and i don't think they will end today. do you think this is the only way jack?
[01:11] <jackhigh> not the only way but its a way you could try
[01:11] <jackhigh> it shouldnt take too long
[01:11] <jolaren> I have a new question.. I have alot of hdd's installed in my server. But I didnt have a screen so I only managed to format one, how do I format and mount the rest of the drives?
[01:11] <SJLong198425> can anyone help me
[01:11] <Alan502> jackhigh: i'm on irssi :( i don't have a browser
[01:11] <SJLong198425> i have two different wifi cards and ubuntu 8 wont use either how do i fix this
[01:12] <obladda> Alan502: What happened when you reselected KDE as your x session at the KDM login screen?
[01:12] <jackhigh> Alan502: install elinks
[01:12] <jackhigh> text browser
[01:12] <mneptok> Alan502: you already have w3m
[01:12] <SJLong198425> did anyone see my question ?
[01:12] <kurou> jolaren: install a partitioning tool first such as gparted. (It's in the repos.)
[01:13] <jackhigh> SJLong198425: prolly not cos i was flooding sorrt ask again
[01:13] <jolaren> kurou; but how do I do that terminalwise? I understand how to get gparted and I've used it several times in an "X" enviroment, but from terminal
[01:13] <HTbeeJay> hey guys, anyone here has ubuntu running on lenovos latest t410?
[01:13] <kurou> Is it
[01:13] <lisa_> I know people have worse problems, but I figured mine would be simple... I just want to revert to the old-style menu... this panel menu that has taken over my desktop makes it very difficult.
[01:13] <Alan502> obladda: the same... it's just a white screen that then turns black, and the only thing i can see clearly is my mouse pointer. Kde kind of tries to show the windows and menus though, when i try to like click then K a little white shadow is shown for a second
[01:13] <kerpali86> jolaren: via terminal = fdisk. I've never partitioned my hard drive w/o a GUI and w/o gparted.. so I good luck. LOL
[01:14] <jackhigh> jolaren: you can forward x to your local machine
[01:14] <SJLong198425> i have two wifi cards different from eachother ubuntu 8 wont use either of them how do i do this i want to do this because ubuntu is faster on my system then xp
[01:14] <jolaren> kerpali86; Heh :-)
[01:14] <obladda> Alan502: It's compositing
[01:14] <jolaren> jackhigh; I believe my graphic card is non functional :-) Can't use X that way
[01:14] <Alan502> mneptok: what is w3m?
[01:14] <obladda> Alan502: You have to restart kwin from a terminal while the white screen is up
[01:14] <jackhigh> just use parted then in the xterm
[01:15] <obladda> Alan502: killall kwin;kwin --replace
[01:15] <jackhigh> jolaren: type man parted
[01:15] <fieldse> alan502 - w3m is a text-based web browser
[01:15] <SJLong198425> iguess i cant find any help here either
[01:15] <iflema> lisa_ one can just open the desktop in nautilus and the like.... or must set the taskbar like the reg ubuntu....
[01:15] <IdleOne> !wifi | SJLong198425
[01:15] <obladda> I have that bound to Win-Alt-Esc because compositing fails all the time
[01:16] <SJLong198425> !wifi
[01:16] <jackhigh> SJLong198425: sorry what wifi cards do you have
[01:16] <IdleOne> SJLong198425: follow the link ubottu gave you
[01:16] <avi_> hey, can anyone figure out why my screen spits out garbage when I open my PowerBook G4?
[01:16] <SJLong198425> ive already been to all those sites it doesnt work
[01:16] <rasgo> ola
[01:16] <jackhigh> SJLong198425: yea listen to idleone its a good start
[01:16] <IdleOne> SJLong198425: ok.
[01:16] <avi_> It renders my PowerBook useles, and I need to force-reboot via the hardware.
[01:17] <jackhigh> SJLong198425:ok then what cards are you trying to make work
[01:17] <SJLong198425> i have a netgear wireless usb 111T and a realtek pci interface
[01:17] <SJLong198425> that is a wifi card
[01:17] <olympus> SJLong198425: When I was running 8.04 I could only get one adater to work, a Dlink
[01:17] <lisa_> iflema: That's what I want to do! How do I do it? I've looked at all of the preferences and such, and I can't find anything that even remotely looks like it would change the way the menu works. I can't even figure out how to add to my task bar or configure it.
[01:17] <SJLong198425> i just want one of them to work
[01:17] <SJLong198425> so i can get wifi
[01:17] <jolaren> jackhigh; sudo mkfs -v -t ext4 /dev/sda1 seems to work
[01:17] <iflema> lisa_ give me a min....
[01:17] <SJLong198425> its a desktop also
[01:18] <Involved> hello all...
[01:18] <fieldse> sjlong, just check wifi docs at the wiki
[01:18] <Alan502> obladda: when i run "kwin --replace" it says "kwin: Cannot connect to X server." This worked tho, Now i can see my kde as it was before =D thanks!
[01:18] <SJLong198425> my room is too far from the router to be hooked up wired
[01:18] <Involved> i`m new to linux... ubuntu and all this..
[01:18] <avi_> good :P
[01:18] <IdleOne> !welcome | Involved
[01:18] <SJLong198425> its faster then xp
[01:18] <Involved> does anyone have more time to help me out with more than just a few things :)
[01:18] <Alan502> obladda: brb rebooting
[01:18] <fieldse> sjlong- search forums is best
[01:18] <olympus> SJLong198425: never was able to get a Netgear to work in 8.04
[01:18] <SJLong198425> might be back later if i cant figure this out
[01:18] <fieldse> @involved - what's up
[01:19] <SJLong198425> im going to try open suse
[01:19] <SJLong198425> its downloading fight now
[01:19] <jackhigh> SJLong198425:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/WG111T
[01:19] <SJLong198425> right *
[01:19] <Razao_Aurea> hi need some help
[01:19] <SJLong198425> thankyou
[01:19] <Involved> i tryed to install adobe flash player... for watching youtube videos...
[01:19] <Gstar> !ask | Involved
[01:19] <Involved> and can`t succed
[01:19] <Involved> :(
[01:20] <enthdegree> Holla, I need my c++ prog. to access a tty (pty, even :P) and write/read from it (so I can do things like cp, sudo, ls etc. just like a normal terminal [gnome-terminal,xterm,rxvt] ) This is made very easy through QT library QProcess, except for that doesn't run command '/bin/bash' in a tty. How can I make it do this/what is the most unix-friendly (compliant ,_, ) way to do this?
[01:20] <macman_> help 0_0 ... trying to rip gi_joe and it has like 72 titles .. each title is fake .. how do i find the real one .. dvdnav isn't helping
[01:20] <enthdegree> whoops, sorry.
[01:20] <olympus> SJLong: have you tried either 9.04 or 9.10? They are both better with wireless
[01:20] <jackhigh> Involved: how did you install it and what browser are you using ?
[01:20] <fieldse> @involved - what version ubuntu, what system how'd you try to install
[01:20] <Razao_Aurea> ive installed kubuntu and windows. ive formated the windows and the boot selection disappeared. im running windows now. how i make it appear again ?
[01:20] <jackhigh> fieldse: :)
[01:21] <avi_> There are 1337 people in this chat right now.
[01:21] <Gstar> Razao did you install windows second?
[01:21] <Involved> i have backtrack 4 ... firefox -browser (i tried to install after a forum answer to my problem)
[01:21] <Razao_Aurea> Gstar yes
[01:21] <IdleOne> avi_: that is amazing every time someone notices it :)
[01:21] <avi_> :D
[01:21] <Razao_Aurea> and after kubuntu, but i formated windows after
[01:21] <Razao_Aurea> no no.. sorry, windows first
[01:21] <jbendotnet> I'm trying to exit VISUDO with 9.10 - totally stumped, have not edited it, whatever I try the most I can get to happen is an error "It's not an a"
[01:21] <Razao_Aurea> and after kubuntu
[01:21] <Involved> don`t know what i have ubuntu or kubuntu or ... :(
[01:21] <jbendotnet> anyone seen that?
[01:21] <Gstar> Razao if your dual booting never install windows 2nd always first it does not care about other OS
[01:22] <Razao_Aurea> Gstar i ve installed windows 7 and after Kubuntu 4.10. after this i re-formated windows.
[01:22] <Gstar> Razao you will need to edit windows boot loader now as it probally ovewritten grub
[01:22] <fieldse> @involved - Look under menu: system > about ubuntu
[01:22] <jolaren> /dev/sda1   *           1        2156    17318038+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA) is the first partion.. W95 for windows 95? should I partition that disk?
[01:22] <Razao_Aurea> Gstar can u help me step-step
[01:23] <fieldse> @involved and see what it says about your version
[01:23] <Gstar> sorry no can do Razao windows aint my thing
[01:23] <avi_> Razao, im sure there are many sites online
[01:23] <Razao_Aurea> avi_ ok, i ll search, thx.
[01:24] <panfist> from the live cd, i edited the uid of the ubuntu user; now whenever i try to sudo something, it says, sudo: unknown uid 999 (the old uid). do i have to reboot to recover this?
[01:24] <panfist> *to recover from this?
[01:24] <avi_> anyone here able to help me with Ubuntu on a PowerBook G4?
[01:25] <Gstar> panfist a rebbot should work
[01:25] <Gstar> or even a reboot :D
[01:26] <panfist> can i do it without rebooting? i'm in the middle of a complex recovery. i have a raid array online
[01:26] <WeCan> hello
[01:26] <lisa_> Well, since that other person seems to have disappeared... I just installed 9.1 and I want to go back to the older-style menu. How do I do it?
[01:26] <panfist> i am trying to transfer files off it with high throughput, rsync was going slow so i wanted to try nfs..then...
[01:26] <panfist> then when trying to get nfs to work, now i can't sudo anymore
[01:27] <WeCan> can anyone tell me the difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu ?
[01:27] <SJLong198425> tried 9.10 no difference
[01:27] <Gstar> sorry not sure dont really use live cds
[01:27] <krimou16> hi i could'nt start xsession with my login but in root mode it's possible
[01:27] <SJLong198425> how about suse 11.2 ?
[01:27] <olympus> WeCan: different desktop models
[01:27] <IdleOne> WeCan: kubuntu use KDE as the desktop manager and ubuntu uses gnome
[01:27] <SJLong198425> do they have wireless drivers on cd
[01:27] <Euthanatos> xfce ftw!
[01:27] <Alan502> obladda, thanks, i got my kde running now
[01:27] <iflema> lisa_ im here..
[01:27] <WeCan> I am using ubuntu now do I need to get Kubuntu ?
[01:27] <Gstar> you need to be su to start x krimou16
[01:28] <obladda> Alan502: forgot the export DISPLAY=:0
[01:28] <avi_> LXDE ftw! :)
[01:28] <kinja-sheep> WeCan: If you want to try KDE, install kubuntu-desktop
[01:28] <obladda> Alan502: np
[01:28] <olympus> WeCan: some say Kubuntu resembles more the Windows desktop
[01:28] <Alan502> obladda, but i have to run killall kwin and kwin --replace (besides leaving the kwin --replace terminal open) everytime i boot
[01:28] <Euthanatos> WeCan: only if you want to use Qt dependant applications
[01:28] <avi_> just type in sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:28] <SJLong198425> whats the difference between kubuntu and xubuntu and ubuntu
[01:28] <avi_> xubuntu uses xfce
[01:28] <avi_> and kubuntu uses KDE
[01:28] <SJLong198425> whats the best one to get where it will support all of myt hardware
[01:28] <Euthanatos>  KDE is a bit resources heavy vs. Xfce & gnome
[01:29] <kinja-sheep> !desktop | SJLong198425
[01:29] <olympus> WeCan: not unless you absolutely want to.  Some apps are written for the K desktop but will run on Gnome in Ubuntu.
[01:29] <avi_> Yeah, what euth said
[01:29] <SolarisBoy> is there a way to make gVim the default graphic editor instead of 'text editor'? on ubuntu?
[01:29] <obladda> Alan502: Shouldn't have to. I find it easier to bind it to a global key combination in KDE control panel
[01:29] <Euthanatos> XFCE is the lightest
[01:29] <IdleOne> SJLong198425: they are all the same OS just different GUI
[01:29] <Gstar> kubuntu default desktop is kde xbuntu is xfce(sp) ubuntu gnome
[01:29]  * Euthanatos prefers xfce
[01:29] <kerpali86> fluxbox is lighter, and then there's straight BASH SHELL. =P
[01:29] <SJLong198425> is xfrce easy as gne
[01:29] <obladda> Alan502: That way you don't have to export the DISPLAY and can restart kwin anytime
[01:29] <WeCan> Is KDE better then Gnome ?
[01:29] <SJLong198425> gnome*
[01:29] <kerpali86> no
[01:29] <kinja-sheep> SJLong198425: Vanilla? Chocolate? Strawberry? They all contribute to the same thing -- You enjoy ice creams! :o
[01:30] <Euthanatos> It'sa matter of preference WeCan
[01:30] <iflema> lisa_ for some reason im thinking you on the netbook remix?
[01:30] <Alan502> obladda, so i add all these to the kde start?
[01:30] <Euthanatos> unless it's XFCE>ALL!!!!
[01:30] <WeCan> ok I c
[01:30] <olympus> WeCan: depends entirely on you and the way you like to work with a desktop...don't think there is a definitive answer
[01:30] <lisa_> iflema: Yes.
[01:30] <SJLong198425> im waiting for suse to download then ill install inside of xp and see if it will pick up my wireless cards
[01:30] <kinja-sheep> WeCan: It is different, not better.  Some people prefer KDE, some people prefer Gnome. Linux is *that* flexible. :)
[01:30] <olympus> WeCan: I tried KDE, like Gnome better
[01:31] <Euthanatos> KDE makes me want to puke
[01:31] <SJLong198425> been working on this all day bout to throw this thing out the window
[01:31] <obladda> Alan502: I used to have to but the current kernel and nvidia drivers work for me most of the time
[01:31] <IdleOne> !ot
[01:31] <iflema> lisa_ ive done it.. cant remember.... just confirming a few things....
[01:31] <WeCan> I mosly just like using the cube in fact I love the cube and I do that in gnome right now
[01:31] <iflema> lisa_ and my netbooks in the hock-shop
[01:31] <olympus> SJLong; have you given any thought to downloaing Ubuntu 9.10?  Try it from the live cd and see if your adapters work
[01:32] <Gstar> prefer gnome now personally but when I first started with Linux back with mandrake I prefered kde cant stand it now but it was more windows like and familiar
[01:32] <Alan502> obladda, i'm using the lastest kernel avaible in the updates and nvidia 9 series drivers, this messed up after using fluxbox
[01:32] <SJLong198425> i have it maybe ill try that thanx
[01:32] <olympus> SJLong:  its an easy way to find out
[01:32] <kinja-sheep> !bot | fieldse
[01:33] <kinja-sheep> fieldse: This is why. :o
[01:33] <WeCan> Is there a place where I could learn how to use the terminal commands ?
[01:33] <kinja-sheep> !terminal | WeCan
[01:33] <lisa_> iflema: Well that gives me something to go on, I had no idea this was specific to the remix.
[01:33] <onetinsoldier> WeCan: try --> http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[01:34] <kinja-sheep> WeCan: When you are using linux everyday, you learn to pick up popular commands.
[01:34] <fieldse> wecan: equivalent. apples / oranges
[01:34] <InvaderZim> help. i patched uvcvideo module for a webcam to work, and it worked, but the module was at /extra/ and the old one at the kernel tree. so after rebooting it stopped working. dmesg now gives errors typical of a module requiring a newer kernel... now i cant revert back to the old error message before patching (which was just one line of error)... I think depmod or someth has cached the problematic uvcvideo module symbols, and doesnt matter which driver i comp
[01:34] <iflema> lisa_ well the thing is its all optimized for a small screen.... im just makeing sure that removal wont screw thing up....
[01:34] <WeCan> great thanks coz every one seems to know these commands except me  lol
[01:35] <Euthanatos> it's like learnign a new language WeCan; one word/command at a time
[01:35] <Euthanatos> You build up a vocabulary and eventually syntax and grammer becoem intuitive
[01:36] <IdleOne> InvaderZim: think you might want to ask in #ubuntu-dev
[01:36] <InvaderZim> thanks
[01:36] <Euthanatos> But typos will always plague you ~.^
[01:37] <kain_> hi, can anyone tell me if Ubuntu Karmic 64 bit can run 34 bit programs?
[01:37] <kinja-sheep> kain_: 34bit, no.  32bit, yes.
[01:38] <jackhigh> :)
[01:38] <d2dchat> kain_: haha 34 bit!!
[01:38] <WeCan> yeah but it looks realy cool when people use it though
[01:38] <kain_> oops
[01:38] <kain_> lol
[01:38] <d2dchat> that's quite the request
[01:38] <kain_> ya 32 bit
[01:38] <d2dchat> I made a 34 bit program once..
[01:38] <d2dchat> lol
[01:38] <Crisis> kinjo, are you sure?
[01:38] <iflema> lisa_ is it desktop access, or the window picker/task switcher that annoying?
[01:38] <kinja-sheep> Crisis: Yes.
[01:38] <Crisis> Most refuse to install saying wrong architecture.
[01:38] <kain_> does 64 bit architecture support biarch?
[01:39] <Dreakon> Okay, so i want to download the latest Intel graphics package from here... http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2009Q4.html
[01:39] <Dreakon> How do I do it?
[01:39] <kinja-sheep> Crisis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[01:39] <WeCan> sudo this, and sudo that  and then stuff happens,  I ve been a windows man all my life, and I have missed out on a lot because of it
[01:39] <chai_> hi all, 9.10 amd64 here, I can't seem to get java applets to run in chrome
[01:39] <Dreakon> Do I have to download each of those seperately?
[01:39] <Trek> chai_ do you have java installed?
[01:39] <enthdegree> How do I make a new tty via getty?
[01:40] <Crisis> Ah.
[01:40] <Crisis> I didn't know that, thanks.
[01:40] <chai_> Trek, yes, and installed all other packages relevant to java
[01:40] <lisa_> iflema: Both, but I think i've got it figured out. seems there is a desktop-switcher app. I couldn't install it so I'm adding the remix sources, gonna try again once it's done updating the source list.
[01:41] <chai_> Trek, sun-java6-jre
[01:41] <Dreakon> Okay, so i want to download the latest Intel graphics package from here... http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2009Q4.html   How do I do it?  Do I download each of those componants seperately?
[01:42] <iflema> lisa_ if ya want access to the taskbar (the bar with the cloack) slide the window picker over then one can add/remove installed applets
[01:42] <jackhigh> lisa_: i read that its very buggy i also heard that they pulled it from the karmic repo because of this ? i could be wrong tho as ive never used it personally
[01:42] <lisa_> Well, it worked, only it left the panel thing on my desktop!
[01:42] <chai_> Dreakon, why not install the intel graphics drivers through synaptic?
[01:43] <Gstar> Lisa can you not right click the panel and select delete panel?
[01:43] <lisa_> No.
[01:43] <Dreakon> chai_: Because I'm kind of new to this and not sure the best way to do half of this stuff. ;)
[01:43] <wiretapped> Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooo!
[01:43] <lisa_> It's like it's replaced the desktop with this panel, and the panel will not go away. I may just reinstall the non-remix version.
[01:43] <Trek> Dreakon: installing with Synaptic is easier than downloading it from Intel
[01:43] <Gstar> by the sounds of it when 8.04 stops being supported Im changing distros
[01:44] <jason_> .
[01:44] <chai_> Dreakon, lol, fair enough. open synaptic package manager and search for intel video drivers
[01:44] <Roasted> .
[01:44] <jackhigh> lisa_: go to startup options and deselect maximus and netbook launcher
[01:44] <brummbaer> wiretapped: jfyi? :D
[01:44] <jiohdi> lisa, you can get used to it... and you can add normal panels too
[01:44] <jiohdi> lisa, at first I did not like UNR either, but it has grown on me
[01:44] <Dreakon> chai_: The version installed in Synaptic isn't as new as the version on the website.
[01:45] <jackhigh> lisa_: the panel is called netbook launcher you can disable it
[01:45] <Trek> Dreakon: why do you need to update the drivers before they're released into the repos?
[01:45] <ouyes> can anybody recommand me a MD5 check tools, as i downloaded xubuntu 9.10, i want to check it before burn to cd
[01:46] <jiohdi> ouyes in ubuntu or in windows?
[01:46] <chai_> Dreakon, but if you install through package manager, it will be more stable, and update itself
[01:46] <Dreakon> Trek: Because for some reason Ubuntu isn't working very well with my integrated Intel video card in my laptop.
[01:46] <ouyes> jinroh,  oh mate of course in ubuntu
[01:46] <ouyes> windows is really shit
[01:46] <Dreakon> Trek: As everything is running rather sluggishly, and as I've seen before, nothing is taking up RAM and nothing is overloading the CPU.
[01:46] <enthdegree> yes tis
[01:46] <chai_> Dreakon, define not woking very well
[01:46] <chai_> working*
[01:47] <jiohdi> ouyes in terminal just type md5sum (file.iso)
[01:47] <jiohdi> without the ()
[01:47] <Trek> Dreakon, that doesn't completely mean the graphics drivers are the issue.
[01:47] <Checkmate91> Hello...I am trying to recover files from a corrupt XP harddrive and booted to a live Ubuntu CD.  When i run fdisk -l I get nothing but a prompt, how bad is the situation?
[01:47] <Trek> Dreakon, just an observation
[01:47] <ouyes> jiohdi,  so i have to compare the result myself?
[01:47] <chai_> Checkmate91, sudo fdisk -l
[01:47] <jiohdi> ouyes, you compare it to the md5 on the site you down load from
[01:47] <merma> im having problems with flash. When Im watching flash videos on firefox other flash media wont work, for exmaple playing a .flv file or using minitube. I have 64 bit flash 10 plugin, any idea?
[01:47] <Dreakon> Trek: I welcome any suggestions then. :)
[01:48] <ZykoticK9> Checkmate91, are you using "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[01:48] <ouyes> jiohdi,  i know , i mean  i need to compare it by my careful eyes?
[01:48] <jiohdi> ouyes, its not that hard
[01:48] <Astemd> question: I see klogd & sysklogd in synaptic in residual config. Karmic got rid of them?
[01:48] <Checkmate91> chai_ thanks I can not see that it is FAT32 on /dev/sda1 but when I click on Places --> Computer, I do not see this filesystem on the list
[01:49] <jiohdi> ouyes you run md5sum and you paste the md5 from the site right below it
[01:49] <Checkmate91> chai; i can NOW* see that it is FAT32
[01:49] <jiohdi> easy peasy
[01:49] <chai_> Checkmate91, you have to mount it
[01:49] <Roasted> hey guys - anybody running AWN dock? Got a quick question.
[01:49] <chai_> Checkmate91, easiest way is through gnome partition manager
[01:50] <jiohdi> ouyes, if you want to do it by not trusting your eyes... just put both into a doc editor and then do a find/replace on one of them and replace it with something like XX, if it matches, the whole thing will be changed to XX
[01:50] <Dreakon> Anyone have any idea why it seems opening, closing and moving windows in Ubuntu feels so sluggish compared to Windows?
[01:50] <ouyes> jiohdi,  thanks , i am lucky, it is valid
[01:51] <ouyes> jiohdi,  you are smart
[01:51] <chai_> anyone using chrome here? are java applets working within it?
[01:51] <onetinsoldier> Dreakon: i think it Karmic. Lucid seems a lot quicker
[01:51] <jiohdi> ouyes, I am a fiddler... tinkerer, not that smart, just working with what I got :)
[01:51] <alejandro> anyone knows where can I get help with subversion... I tried the #svn group @ irc.freenode.net but doesn't exist
[01:51] <alejandro> anymore
[01:51] <Checkmate91> chai; mtab says it is mounted but I still canot see it
[01:51] <Dreakon> onetinsoldier: You think so?   I have a horrible problem... I used alient to convert an rpm package to a deb and installed it... it installed the intended app just fine, but it goofed and overwrote my sudoers file
[01:55] <jrcarr2> I can no longer sudo anymore :(
[01:55] <Gstar> what does df show checkmate?
[01:55] <jrcarr2> how can I fix this!?
[01:55] <jiohdi> ouyes, glad to assist, I am a noob and many have helped me here
[01:55] <sebsebseb> !alien |  jrcarr2
[01:55] <jbendotnet> can i change the editor assigned to visudo?
[01:55] <jrcarr2> this is on my laptop and I have physical access
[01:55] <jbendotnet> mine is behaving unlike visudo
[01:55] <jbendotnet> and it's driving me nuts
[01:55] <jrcarr2> sebsebseb, I know what it is... alient itself isnt the problem
[01:55] <sebsebseb> jrcarr2: well I guess what has happended to you is one reason for why that factoid existts or something liket hat
[01:55] <jbendotnet> unlike vi i mena
[01:55] <karma_police> anyone have any experience with swiftfox?
[01:55] <nomasteryoda> visudo is required
[01:56] <chai_> Checkmate91, that's very strange... if you have ubuntu running, you definitely have AT LEAST your own partition in fdisk...
[01:56] <emma> test
[01:56] <nomasteryoda> for editing the sudoers file
[01:56] <jrcarr2> sebsebseb, thanks, but you missed my problem
[01:56] <emma> test
[01:56] <darthanubis> karma_police, yes
[01:56] <sebsebseb> jrcarr2: well the factoid says it's unsupported,  plus hardly anyone uses it,  so good luck trying to find help here.  maybe ##linux though
[01:56] <Checkmate91> chai, even on a live cd?
[01:56] <jbendotnet> nomasteryoda: hm, that's what I thoguht. I simply can't exit it. it won't persist in command mode
[01:56] <sebsebseb> jrcarr2: altough it's just the file you say
[01:56] <karma_police> how do you install it? i googled swiftfox 3.6 and am having probs.. i'm a bit of a linux noob tho
[01:56] <chai_> Checkmate91, you would have your cd mounted in that case
[01:56] <jrcarr2> sebsebseb, you're still missing my question. alient didn't do it nor is it the cause... the problem is my sudoer user got overwritten
[01:56] <nomasteryoda> jbendotnet, esc, :wq!
[01:56] <sebsebseb> jrcarr2: so  ask later and someone else might be able to help
[01:57] <jrcarr2> sudoer file I mean
[01:57] <jbendotnet> nomasteryoda: I've had a friend look and he knows VI well and he can't get it to exit either
[01:57] <jbendotnet> totally stumped
[01:57] <jrcarr2> I cant do anything now because I can no longer sudo to root
[01:57] <darthanubis> karma_police, no one uses it anymore
[01:57] <santiago> hi
[01:57] <darthanubis> hi
[01:57] <Checkmate91> chai, as far as the XP drive itself is concerned, when I boot from that it might/might not make it as far as the wavy logo screen and then it just restarts all over again
[01:57] <jrcarr2> let's leave alient out of the equation... let's just say I edited my sudoers file by hand and accidentally took myself out
[01:57] <santiago> i was willing if someone could help me with a problem im having
[01:57] <maco> jrcarr2: boot into recovery mode and issue the "visudo" command to repair your /etc/sudoers
[01:58] <santiago> just installed ubuntu 9.10 two days ago
[01:58] <sebsebseb> karma_police: that's  that edited version of Firefox I think, for a certain proccessor
[01:58] <darthanubis> !ask | santiago
[01:58] <karma_police> oh ok.. whats the best browser out for 9.10? i'm using chrome and firefox 3.6.. can't get flash working on firefox tho
[01:58] <jrcarr2> maco, thanks!!
[01:58] <RaiN88> Check my problem: When I click restart, then my laptop process to restart, but when it should be restarted it just stay's there with Blank black screen, ready to reboot but it wont. I have to manually cut off the power, and then boot it again. It is so very annoying.  Laptop : Asus X80 1GB ram, 160GB HDD Ubuntu 9.10 fully updated. I hope you can able to help me solve this problem. Kind regards, and thanks in advance,
[01:58] <Checkmate91> chai, typically I can get data off these things but this one is stubborn
[01:58] <santiago> and can not install de ati radeon xpress200 driver
[01:58] <maco> jrcarr2: see also "man 5 sudoers" for information on how that file works
[01:58] <chai_> Checkmate91, then your hard drive isn't corrupted, your windows operating system is, you shoudl be able to access the hard drive
[01:58] <santiago> downloadit form amd ati webpage, sudo sh in the terminal, but it gives mi an error
[01:58] <sebsebseb> karma_police: better to just use  what Ubuntu came with FIrefox really,  and any updates for that
[01:59] <Gstar> Checkmate91 what does a df show?
[01:59] <darthanubis> sebsebseb, not hardly
[01:59] <sebsebseb> darthanubis: what?
[01:59] <darthanubis> karma_police, install arora it more what you are looking for. small and fast
[01:59] <Checkmate91> chai, quite a bit...what are you looking for in particular?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> karma_police: loads of good browsers for Desktop Linux  arora is one of them
[02:00] <mazda01_> anyone know why after booting up, i am getting a loop of starting file manager and nautilus wont open nor do i have desktop icons?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> !browsers | karma_police
[02:00] <RaiN88> !bug
[02:00] <darthanubis> sebsebseb, if he wants swiftfox, he is looking for lightweight firefox. telling him to just use what he get is not helpful or addressing his need
[02:00] <Checkmate91> chai, little bit about the kernel, some stuff on /var more on /dev and /tmp
[02:00] <trism> karma_police: you just need to link libflashplayer.so into firefox's plugin directory to get flash working
[02:00] <santiago> could some one please tell me how to install de ATI Radeon Xpress 200 Driver in Ubuntu 9.10?? Thx if anyone has an answer! :D
[02:00] <darthanubis> !ati | santiago
[02:01] <chai_> Checkmate91, wait, Gstar asked you that
[02:01] <dukenight> hola
[02:01] <dukenight> hello
[02:01] <sebsebseb> karma_police: If you have Firefox flash issues you can try epiphany (sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser )   or galeon, which use the same flash as Firefox will
[02:01] <karma_police> thanks trism.. how do i do that?
[02:01] <Checkmate91> chai_, DOH
[02:01] <dukenight> nijao
[02:01] <chai_> Checkmate91, lol
[02:01] <Checkmate91> chai_, :)
[02:01] <Checkmate91> Gstar, little bit about the kernel, some stuff on /var more on /dev and /tmp
[02:01] <darthanubis> sebsebseb, switching browsers does not fix anythign to do with flash
[02:01] <dukenight> todos usan ubuntu?
[02:01] <karma_police> i didn't have firefox flash issues until updating to 3.6.. now it said latest flash isn't installed
[02:02] <dukenight> alguien puede ayudarme?
[02:02] <IdleOne> !es | dukenight
[02:02] <inhabitant> grub update bug :(
[02:02] <Checkmate91> chai_, not too good at the whole chatting thing i guess
[02:02] <dukenight> some body help me?
[02:02] <darthanubis> !ask | dukenight
[02:02] <sebsebseb> darthanubis: not for Firefox in Ubuntu no, but the same Flash   that people would get the normal way e.g.  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer   will work in epiphany and galeon
[02:02] <Gstar> Checkmate91 sounds like its not mounted to me
[02:02] <nickkontos> help! i need to create a launcher for a friends ubuntu pc, but i don't have a clue
[02:02] <karma_police> its like the new firefox isn't recognizing the flash that i currently have installed.. prolly my error somewhere
[02:02] <darthanubis> sebsebseb, has nothing to do with his issue
[02:02] <Checkmate91> Gstar, I agree but I think Ubuntu does not know it is there for mounting
[02:03] <darthanubis> karma_police, more than likely
[02:03] <dukenight> i have an error with network nm-applet
[02:03] <darthanubis> !details | dukenight
[02:03] <Gstar> Checkmate91 have your tried mounting it manually?
[02:03] <nickkontos> i want it to runs some commands...
[02:03] <karma_police> 3.6 isn't in the repo's.. i dl'd the installer
[02:03] <dukenight> in karmic koala, sometimes it dissapear
[02:03] <darthanubis> karma_police, wrong thing to do
[02:03] <kinja-sheep> nickkontos: Right-click and Create Launcher.
[02:04] <Checkmate91> Gstar, with something like mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/disk -o force
[02:04] <sebsebseb> darthanubis: yeah for some reason he has gone 3.6, when really he could have probably stayed with Firefox that came with Ubuntu,  or  used some other browser instead of getting 3.6
[02:04] <darthanubis> karma_police, mozilla has a f=daily ppa to install mozilla that you add to your software repositi=ories
[02:04] <karma_police> i don't know how to uninstall it either,,
[02:04] <Checkmate91> Gstar, the thing is fdisk -l does not see this harddrive
[02:04] <darthanubis> karma_police, that is why you should not have installed that way
[02:04] <karma_police> where do i get the ppa?
[02:04] <sebsebseb> darthanubis: kinja-sheep   well yeah the mozilla ppa is the proper way to get 3.6, however  ppa's can cause issues when  upgrading  Ubuntu to a later version and that kind of thing
[02:04] <darthanubis> karma_police, don't just punch buttons
[02:04] <sebsebseb> kinja-sheep: no not you
[02:04] <sebsebseb> karma_police: see above
[02:05] <stevenheidel> I need some commands to run on startup: starting mysql and cups, currently I have to run "sudo /etc/init.d/virtualbox-ose restart && sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart && sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart" the moment I log on
[02:05] <dukenight> i probed kill idtask, reload applet but the icon dont appear
[02:05] <kinja-sheep> sebsebseb: I feel rejected now. :(
[02:05] <darthanubis> sebsebseb, PPAs cause no problems when upgrading because people who use them know to disable them before an upgrade
[02:05] <dukenight> how i can use bluecove in linux??
[02:05] <darthanubis> the upgrader disables them anyway
[02:05] <dukenight> it does not work
[02:06] <sebsebseb> darthanubis: loads of people that have done ppa's do not disable them before upgrading to a later version of Ubuntu
[02:06] <Gstar> Checkmate91 your mounting wrong
[02:06] <dukenight> somebody can help me?
[02:06] <jolaren> I have 5 hdds in my server. I installed the server without a screen so I've only managed to format one of them. How do I do now?
[02:06] <Checkmate91> Gstar, suggestion?
[02:06] <darthanubis> sebsebseb, that is not to blame on the PPA, it is called user error
[02:06] <nickkontos> kinja-sheep, well yes, this far I know, I want it to run "tvtime -d /dev/video1" and "sox -c 2 -s -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp -r 32000 /dev/dsp" at the same time, without the guy seeing an open terminal and (this is the tricky part) when the window of tvtime closes it has to close the sox that is running sillenly in the background...
[02:06] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: upgrade disables the ppa's before updating the sources.list
[02:06] <RaiN88> Does someone knows about this problem :   When I click restart, then my laptop process to restart, but when it should be restarted it just stay's there with Blank black screen, ready to reboot but it wont. I have to manually cut off the power, and then boot it again. It is so very annoying.  Laptop : Asus X80 1GB ram, 160GB HDD Ubuntu 9.10 fully updated. I hope you can able to help me solve this problem. Kind regards, and thanks in advance,
[02:07] <darthanubis> !patience | RaiN88
[02:07] <RaiN88> :)
[02:07] <darthanubis> ;)
[02:07] <sebsebseb> darthanubis: turning to ppa's loads  for major later stuff is stupid,  since really there should be an offical repo for that stuff, but no
[02:07] <RaiN88> How are you darthanubis?
[02:07] <nickkontos> kinja-sheep, FYI "sox -c 2 -s -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp -r 32000 /dev/dsp" this command reads the input at 32 KHz from /dev/dsp2 and writes it out to my soundcard at /dev/dsp
[02:07] <darthanubis> RaiN88, good an you?
[02:08] <RaiN88> fine too..
[02:08] <darthanubis> RaiN88, good
[02:08] <RaiN88> how are you using ubuntu?
[02:08] <darthanubis> RaiN88, yup
[02:08] <RaiN88> how long are you using ubuntu? *
[02:08] <darthanubis> RaiN88, since it started
[02:08] <RaiN88> hmmm..
[02:09] <nickkontos> kinja-sheep, so it hasn't got to be in a terminal, it can run at the backgroung until we don't want it any more
[02:09] <dukenight> some irc chat in spanish?
[02:09] <RaiN88> so you're a prof ubuntu user?! :)
[02:09] <dukenight> for ubuntu?
[02:09] <sebsebseb> !Es | dukenight
[02:09] <dukenight> thanks
[02:09] <dukenight> i cant load ubuntu-es in the irc?
[02:09] <RaiN88> !Fil
[02:09] <IdleOne> dukenight: /join #uubntu-es
[02:10] <IdleOne> dukenight: /join #ubuntu-es
[02:10] <IdleOne> ^^
[02:10] <darthanubis> RaiN88, just experienced with the distro, through trial and error
[02:10] <RaiN88> ah okay.
[02:10] <darthanubis> RaiN88, I've had to help myself the whole time
[02:10] <stevenheidel> hello, I have to run these commands "sudo /etc/init.d/virtualbox-ose restart && sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart && sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart" everytime I log in to get things to work. How can I make it automatic when I start the computer?
[02:11] <RaiN88> I see. Nice work darthanubis :)
[02:11] <darthanubis> RaiN88, thanks.:)
[02:11] <karma_police> is there a way to uninstall firefox 3.6 and revert back to the one tat is supported in the repos?
[02:11] <RaiN88> what version are you using now?
[02:11] <TheTortyl_> anyone know a site that shows the color relations to customize the irc chat. I want to be white on black but there is too much text of white/grey shade
[02:11] <darthanubis> RaiN88, I read your question, but I don't know where to start with the information provided
[02:12] <dukenight> how can i compile a kernel live cd?
[02:12] <darthanubis> TheTortyl_, wouldn't that depend on the IRC client you are using?
[02:12] <RaiN88> When I turn off it has a flikering lines appears in screen..
[02:13] <darthanubis> RaiN88, which videocard you using? Did this happen while using the livecd?
[02:13] <stevenheidel> (check my original question please) and also I have the same problem as RaiN88
[02:13] <Checkmate91> chai_, thanks for your help
[02:13] <TheTortyl_> I am using irc through empathy. My bad. I havent used irc in 7-8 yrs and I used mIRC and now I am running empathy on linux
[02:13] <RaiN88> Nvidia, no, it didn't happen
[02:14] <darthanubis> TheTortyl_, use a better IRC client
[02:14] <darthanubis> TheTortyl_, you'll appreciate Xchat
[02:14] <jiohdi> TheTortyl_: you can try Konversation, its very easy to set preferences
[02:14] <mauricio> nick MauBR
[02:14] <karma_police> guess i will just wait till the repo updates to the new one.. maybe it will overwrite this one
[02:14] <mauricio> nick Mau_
[02:14] <darthanubis> karma_police, no it will not
[02:14] <mau_> damn :)
[02:14] <tpinto> hello people. when booting, my ubuntu hangs. when i choose "recovey mode" on grub i see that the boot process stops after these messages: "init: upstart-udev-bridge main process (329) killed by SEGV signal / init: upstart-udev-bridge main process ended, respawning / acer-wmi: No or unsupported WMI interface, unable to load". any clues?
[02:14] <TheTortyl_> I am fairly new to the whole linux os and still learning what apps run through linux. any suggestions on linux based irc clients.  I dont care for this one
[02:15] <darthanubis> TheTortyl_, you'll appreciate Xchat
[02:15] <darthanubis> TheTortyl_, sudo apt-get install xchat
[02:15] <IdleOne> !irc
[02:15] <darthanubis> TheTortyl_, paste that in a terminal
[02:15] <karma_police> darthanubis, what should i do to get it back the way it was?
[02:15] <jiohdi> TheTortyl_: Konversation :)
[02:15] <IdleOne> hmm wrong factoid
[02:15] <mau_> does anyone know how can I change my shell's resolution?
[02:16] <darthanubis> karma_police, delete where you installed that downloaded version of FF
[02:16] <RaiN88> stevenheidel what is the brand of your PC/Laptop?
[02:16] <stevenheidel> RaiN88: HP
[02:16] <RaiN88> stevenheidel specs of your unit
[02:16] <Gstar> xchat get my vote
[02:16] <karma_police> brb
[02:17] <TheTortyl_> isnt Konversation a kde client. I am running Gnome
[02:17] <darthanubis> yup
[02:17] <Gstar> will still run
[02:17] <jiohdi> TheTortyl_: you can run KDE programs in gnome
[02:17] <TheTortyl_> ok
[02:17] <darthanubis> TheTortyl_, not that you'd want to
[02:17] <jiohdi> TheTortyl_: I am running UNR gnome and Konversation is what I am using right now
[02:18] <hullo> i just loaded up the empathy irc client bc of you guys talking about it
[02:18] <stevenheidel> RaiN88: HP HDX16, Nvidia GeForce 9600MT
[02:18] <hullo> blecccccccccccccccccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:18] <RaiN88> Asus X80n, 1GB RAM, 160GB, Nvidia Geforce 700m = 256mb
[02:18] <RaiN88> maybe isn't compatible with nvidia :(
[02:18] <abms1116> Can UUID of /boot and / be same ?
[02:18] <stevenheidel> does anyone have any ideas for my first question?
[02:18] <karma_police> ok back.. i deleted the downloaded file for ff 3.6
[02:18] <darthanubis> RaiN88, Nvidia works just fine
[02:19] <RaiN88> hmmm..
[02:19] <darthanubis> abms1116, if they are on the same partition
[02:19] <TheTortyl_> yea its taking me a bit to get use to linux.  This is my 5th time in the past 6 years that I am trying to learn linux to make my primary os. I am determined to stick with it this time
[02:19] <RaiN88> what seems wrong ?! :(
[02:19] <karma_police> what do i need to do in order for it to use the repo version?
[02:19] <stevenheidel> my original question: I have to run these commands "sudo /etc/init.d/virtualbox-ose restart && sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart && sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart" everytime I log in to get things to work. How can I make it automatic when I start the computer?
[02:19] <darthanubis> TheTortyl_, that is all it takes, determination
[02:19] <TheTortyl_> its just odd to feel so cumbersome and be out of the look
[02:19] <TheTortyl_> loop
[02:19] <tpinto> how i can i use a live cd to recover an existing system (i.e. installing new kernel, rebuilding grub, etc)? will i need to chroot and the sorts?
[02:20] <Gstar> stevenheidel qrite a shell script
[02:20] <Gstar> *write
[02:20] <RaiN88> stevenheidel does that code works?
[02:20] <jiohdi> TheTortyl_: you and me both... I started with suse in 2000 give or take and got frustrated went back to xp...and then recently came back to linux, hopefully for good
[02:20] <morphix> stevenheidel: i would probably recommend finding out WHY that is required?
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> stevenheidel: First off, use 'sudo service cups restart' and similar rather than calling the script path directly.
[02:20] <darthanubis> TheTortyl_, keeps one from being bored
[02:20] <morphix> i have all of them installed
[02:20] <morphix> and they are used all the other on my system
[02:20] <karma_police> i've been using ubuntu sing 9.04.. i still have a lot to get used to
[02:20] <karma_police> since*
[02:20] <morphix> and i never have to restart them to get them working.
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> stevenheidel: Second, try to figure out the real problem rather than hacking around it.
[02:20] <morphix> ^^
[02:20] <stevenheidel> morphix: ya, I used to not have to do that but then cups and mysql stopped working automatically
[02:21] <maco> morphix: are they not starting at all on boot? or are they starting and screwing up on boot such that they need to be restarted?
[02:21] <darthanubis> TheTortyl_, if you don't like to read and look up things on the web, you will be daunted
[02:21] <jiohdi> TheTortyl_: I have re-installed about 5 different verisions of linux in the last 5 months :)
[02:21] <karma_police> i hate that i made this firefox 3.6 mistake.. have to learn from mistakes somehow
[02:21] <Gstar> couldnt he just add the command in fstab?
[02:21] <stevenheidel> tonyayarusso: how do I figure out the original problem?
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> maco: (wrong person)
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> stevenheidel: Logs, hopefully.
[02:21] <darthanubis> karma_police, you have to read before you leap
[02:21] <karma_police> i am firuring that out now
[02:21] <maco> stevenheidel:  are they not starting at all on boot? or are they starting and screwing up on boot such that they need to be restarted?
[02:22] <maco> morphix: sorry
[02:22] <karma_police> figuring* damn i hate this keyboard
[02:22] <maco> tonyyarusso: thanks
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> stevenheidel: Services generally either have their own directory in /var/logs/ or write to syslog / messages.
[02:22] <morphix> maco: thats ok, i knew you meant steve...
[02:22] <stevenheidel> maco: they're not starting at all
[02:22] <darthanubis> karma_police, Ubuntu has some of the best documentation, don't let it go to waste
[02:22] <karma_police> i just have to figure out how to safely uninstall 3.6 and revert back to the original one
[02:23] <darthanubis> karma_police, it is uninstalled
[02:23] <quontrex_ashimi> is firefox undergoing some wack updates?
[02:23] <jiohdi> karma_police: you dont have to uninstall, they can both exist together
[02:23] <hamgammon> hey, was wondering if anyone knew how to get a laptop running ubuntu 9.10 to boot to the command line then when i want it to start gnome, i searched the forums and used boot up manager but ubuntu ended up restarting in recovery mode :(
[02:23] <morphix> stevenheidel: have you at all been playing around with /etc/init.d/ and /etc/rc.*/ scripts?
[02:23] <darthanubis> jiohdi, he WANTS it uninstalled
[02:23] <maco> stevenheidel: or the command chkconfig
[02:23] <maco> ?
[02:23] <karma_police> it still shows 3.6 when i click help.about
[02:23] <stevenheidel> morphix: I tried adding to rc.local on the suggestion of IRC last time but it didn't work
[02:24] <stevenheidel> maco: no I haven't tried that
[02:24] <maco> stevenheidel: ok...
[02:24] <maco> stevenheidel: do the logs say maybe that some service needs to start before them and isnt, but its running by the time you manually start them?
[02:24] <justin_> hey
[02:24] <karma_police> it isn't uninstalled.. all i did was delete the file to install it with so far
[02:25] <Gstar> hamgammon runlevel N 3
[02:25] <darthanubis> karma_police, you are now going to have to research what you did, and back trace. Look for an ubibstall script.
[02:25] <stevenheidel> maco: the cups logs say "E [26/Jan/2010:10:10:17 -0600] Unable to remove temporary file "/var/spool/cups/tmp/.hplip" - Is a directory"
[02:25] <Gstar> hamgammon sorry telinit 3
[02:25] <stevenheidel> maco: there are no files in the mysql directory
[02:25] <emma> test
[02:25] <switchgirl> emma, test
[02:26] <hamgammon> Gstar:  sorry what do you mean, while in boot up manager?
[02:26] <emma> it happened again
[02:26] <emma> switchgirl: at times the whole channel stops and i see no posts but my own, and then i get all of them all at oncce.
[02:27] <barqers> Guys, this is the only place I know where to ask this. I was connecting my cell phone up to my ubuntu computer, and then this happened to the cell phone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjHQbQAGpgI
[02:27] <kermit> emma: what do the pings show
[02:27] <barqers> Can anyone tell me if that is hardware or software related...
[02:27] <morphix> emma: it could be your connection is lagging.
[02:27] <switchgirl> oh thats worth trying java.freenode for
[02:27] <emma> kermit: stop the pings now to get the data?
[02:27] <stevenheidel> maco: command chkconfig shows cups as off but printers are still working
[02:27] <kermit> emma: no, just look
[02:28] <kermit> emma: look at them for the time frame you felt lagged
[02:28] <maco> stevenheidel: in runlevel 2? chkconfig tells you what should run automatically at boot, not what is running right now
[02:28] <maco> stevenheidel: chkconfig --list | grep cups
[02:28] <emma> kermit: that time has already scrolled away..
[02:28] <maco> stevenheidel: for example
[02:28] <kermit> emma: you dotn have scrollback??
[02:29] <stevenheidel> maco: 2 is off
[02:29] <maco> stevenheidel: ok try turning that on then
[02:29] <kermit> emma: but regardless, its easier to look when it happens than to try to do time math
[02:29] <morphix> chkconfig?
[02:29] <maco> stevenheidel: if i remember right... sudo chkconfig add cups --levels 2
[02:29] <morphix> why not use sysv-rc-conf?
[02:29] <barqers> If anyone knows what's wrong with the touchscreen, or knows about touch screens, help is appreciated
[02:29] <maco> morphix: ubuntu doesnt use sysv init scripts?
[02:30] <maco> morphix:  and umm... because i happened to know about chkconfig due to my training on red hat
[02:30] <morphix> yeah it does.
[02:30] <surge> I have a question
[02:30] <morphix> eh
[02:30] <maco> morphix: no... ubuntu uses upstart, not sysv
[02:30] <maco> !upstart > morphix
[02:30] <surge> if I'm running Ubuntu 9.1, and I have an ATI x1300 in my laptop
[02:30] <kermit> !upstart > kermit
[02:30] <surge> am I pretty much screwed now on getting binaries to work
[02:31] <surge> everything I've tried to find points to no longer supported in new kernel
[02:31] <marcio_> estou com um erro no gedit, alguem pode me ajudar?
[02:32] <Flameass> Anyonne know if I can get my rtl8187 into master mode?
[02:32] <marcio_> quando chamo o gedit ele da este erro: (gedit:2755): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[02:33] <stevenheidel> so the actually command was "sudo chkconfig cups 2", and it gave me a bunch of errors and didn't change the state
[02:33] <morphix> eh well sys-v init still appears to work fine for me.
[02:33] <barqers> Anyone know what to do?
[02:33] <maco> stevenheidel: errors?
[02:34] <PeterT> !paste | stevenheidel
[02:35] <maco> stevenheidel: sudo chkconfig --set cups on
[02:35] <stevenheidel> maco: http://pastie.org/796155
[02:35] <whammo> has there been a solution yet to the broken locks such as in network-admin or gdmsetup?
[02:35] <patdk-lap> any idea what package I should file a big report for, for mtu setting in /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:36] <maco> patdk-lap: "dpkg -S interfaces" should tell you what package contains that file
[02:37] <patdk-lap> hehe, a few hundred :)
[02:37] <RaiN88> try to check this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/513056
[02:38] <hamgammon> sorry to ask again still cant get my laptop (ubuntu 9.10) to start with command line and when i want to, start the gui i tryed "sudo telinit 3" and boot up manager
[02:38] <RaiN88> hey
[02:38] <RaiN88> anybody there?
[02:39] <RaiN88> what is the best themes for ubuntu? can any1 share some of it?
[02:39] <kinja-sheep> nickkontos: Those messages -- Were that for me? I can't help but wonder.
[02:39] <nickkontos> kinja-sheep,  well... yes
[02:39] <nickkontos> kinja-sheep, can you help?
[02:39] <avi_> hey, quick question, how do I fully uninstall Kubuntu? I installed it via sudo-apt-get-install kubuntu-desktop
[02:39] <user01> how do i know what shell im running?
[02:40] <kinja-sheep> nickkontos: I came back in the room. Were you just throwing them at me? Hoping for me to solve them? I don't really know what you were talking about in first place. :\
[02:40] <redwoodsound> hello all im having a problem with ubuntu 9.10  about half of the times i put the computer to sleep/suspend/hibernate/screensaver it freezes when i wake it or move the mouse hit keyboard etc.  Then i have to actually hold the power button in to shut it off
[02:41] <nickkontos> kinja-sheep, it's ok, thanks anyways
[02:41] <kinja-sheep> nickkontos: You could write a script.
[02:41] <kain_> i'm trying to run the cisco vpn program, but i keep on getting some "Failed to load module ... " on my 64 bit
[02:41] <nickkontos> kinja-sheep,  that's what i'm trying to do right now
[02:41] <nickkontos> i think i am in a good road
[02:42] <kain_> was anyone able to install and run the cisco vpn client on a 64 bit ubuntu 9.10?
[02:42] <patdk-lap> kain_, let you know by the end of the week :)
[02:42] <SolarisBoy> user01: echo $SHELL should work
[02:42] <ballsac> hello, people
[02:42] <kain_> patdk-lap: ok
[02:43] <ballsac> can someone assist me with installing ubuntu on my PC?
[02:43] <patdk-lap> I have two systems I have to get it setup on, both 9.10 64bit
[02:43] <ballsac> I have the latest ubuntu FULL VERSION + crack
[02:43] <ballsac> from rapidshare
[02:43] <RaiN88> balisac
[02:43] <barqers> ballsac: Interesting name. Why would you need a crack for a free OS?
[02:43] <user01> SolarisBoy, right it says bash, but the forums say it is really dash?
[02:43] <JimmyJ> Ubuntu is free
[02:43] <kinja-sheep> ballsac: I think you are trolling. :\
[02:43] <RaiN88> ubuntu is opensrc
[02:43] <TheTortyl_> why do u need a crack for free os?
[02:43] <redwoodsound> crack?
[02:43] <TheTortyl_> lol
[02:43] <RaiN88> !ubuntu
[02:43] <barqers> That's funny lol
[02:43] <ballsac> what do you mean free OS?
[02:43] <redwoodsound> mabye to smoke
[02:44] <redwoodsound> lol
[02:44] <avi_> Alert! Alert!
[02:44] <avi_> Troll!
[02:44] <karma_police> i can't get it to uninstall... still stuck with a broke firefox 3.6 and apparent broke ubuntu
[02:44] <avi_> :D
[02:44] <RaiN88> !ubuntu
[02:44] <ballsac> Well, the crack works and without the crack, you can't register ubuntu
[02:44] <SolarisBoy> i guess dash sh and bash are synonomous?
[02:44] <avi_> LOL
[02:44] <marcio_> alguem ja viu este erro:(gedit:2755): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[02:44] <barqers> ballsac, lmfao
[02:44] <RaiN88> hahahhaa
[02:44] <ballsac> so obviously you need the crack, it's a nobrainer
[02:44] <kinja-sheep> !troll | ballsac
[02:44] <user01> SolarisBoy, sh and bash arent
[02:44] <RaiN88> Balisac is making a joke
[02:44] <Flameass> I've spent the whole day looking to get my rtl8187 wireless card in master mode. Any advice?
[02:45] <kermit> marcio_: is that run from a screen session?  DISPLAY is probably set wrong
[02:45] <RaiN88> anyone what to share there best themes???
[02:45] <RaiN88> * Want
[02:46] <Jef91> RaiN88 Gnome or KDE?
[02:46] <RaiN88> anyone want to share there best themes???
[02:46] <RaiN88> Gnome
[02:46] <ballsac> So I opened my .rar of ubuntu and applied the crack. That produced a cracked ISO that I burnt on a CD. But when I pop it into my CD drive, it does not work?
[02:46] <ballsac> Does ubuntu always give this problem?
[02:46] <avi_> yeah, usually
[02:46] <SolarisBoy> ur right
[02:46] <avi_> u have to get the DLX-crack
[02:46] <kinja-sheep> ballsac: Say something.
[02:46] <kinja-sheep> ballsac: Can you acknowledge me?
[02:46] <ballsac> ok. I'll get that crack. I have a rapidshare PREMIUM account, btw :)
[02:47] <avi_> yeah, so do i
[02:47] <avi_> that helps.
[02:47] <Jef91> RaiN88 Lots of fun ones to pick from here - http://gnome-look.org/
[02:47] <ballsac> you're acknowledged, kanja-ship
[02:47] <RaiN88> yeah
[02:47] <RaiN88> i knw that
[02:47] <kinja-sheep> ballsac: Nice.
[02:47] <RaiN88> What themes you can suggest or share your themes with me?!
[02:47] <ballsac> So why does ubuntu refuse to install? I heard ubuntu is easy to use but why is it so difficult to install?
[02:48] <nn-main> ballsac: A boot cdrom iso needs a boot setup so the computer knows how to boot it .. its like the boot loader on you hard drive except its on a cd .. its a LOT harder to set up though because its part of an image
[02:48] <RaiN88> balisac try using the Pen Drive
[02:48] <hamgammon> got my problem sorted, added text on the end of my ubuntu grub entry, so simple, so 9.10 uses grub 2 now?
[02:48] <avi_> maybe your crack is 128 bit and not 64 bit?
[02:48] <nn-main> ballsac: you cant just put a rar to a iso with out setting up all the crazy ness that goes with the boot loader
[02:48] <redwoodsound> ballsac:  dude there is no crack   get the real deal at  ubuntu.com
[02:48] <ballsac> avi_: stop trolling
[02:48] <avi_> LOL
[02:49] <SolarisBoy> seriously,, just dl it from ubuntu.com
[02:49] <ballsac> how do I modify my .iso file
[02:49] <RaiN88> Jef91 what themes are you using, and what themes can you suggest for others to use?
[02:49] <janakaclk> 128 bit?
[02:49] <ballsac> is ubuntu.com safe from viruses?
[02:49] <avi_> Sorry, fighting trolls with trolling.
[02:49] <mneptok> avi_: don't.
[02:49] <avi_> Right, obviously.
[02:49] <ballsac> !ops avi_ trolling
[02:49] <onetinsoldier> ls -l
[02:50] <Elrox> ballsac, stop using the windows crap images .. get  http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download
[02:50] <mneptok> ballsac: since you know the ops trigger, you're obviously not new to this channel. please stop trolling.
[02:50] <_mau> does anyone know how can I change my shell's/console frequency?
[02:51] <ballsac> mneptok: are you an op or staff?
[02:51] <_mau> ubuntu is changing the frequency to 82~83 MHz and i'm getting warnings from my monitor...
[02:51] <ballsac> the trigger is common to all of freenode
[02:51] <nn-main> ballsac: Ubuntu is the ultimate operating system its the full deal. Its open source meaning its already owned by the general public thus you cant sell it. Its a open product free for everyone. And yes ubuntu is save from viruses and all kinds of junk out there on the web. Linux is probably the safest operating system there is.
[02:51] <ballsac> _mau: it seems ubuntu is super hard to install and noone here is willing to helpme with it!
[02:52] <nn-main> ballsac: Thats why google uses it .. and really how often do you see google fail
[02:52] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: i like Aurora Leopard BSM. you have to get three files from there tho
[02:52] <Anacranom> ballsac: if the majority has no problem, maybe the problem is you
[02:52] <maco> ballsac: um no that trigger is specific to whatever bot is in the channel, IF the channel even has a bot
[02:52] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier can you give me the link?
[02:53] <SolarisBoy> ballsac: its simple as going to the ubuntu.com site download the iso and burn the image to  a cd/dvd , reboot into the cd and you can install from right on the live CD by clicking on desktop icon
[02:53] <ballsac> nn-main: I see what you're saying. you sound really learned, not like the others in this channel. most people are basically abusing me here
[02:53] <SolarisBoy> ballsac: the way you are going about doing it is making it hard
[02:53] <maco> ballsac: there is no .rar for ubuntu, or crack. if someone told you there is, they lied.
[02:53] <RaiN88> !themes
[02:53] <mneptok> ballsac: http://releases.ubuntu.com and that's the end of telling where to download.
[02:53] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: hang on... give me a minute or two and i'll see what i can do. are you running an x64 installation? or 32-bit?
[02:53] <ballsac> maco: noone told me. I went to google and typed ubuntu and rapidshare just like I do for all software and I got those links to .rar
[02:54] <ballsac> mneptok: :) thanks, an
[02:54] <maco> ballsac: then someone on rapidshare played you for a fool
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[02:54] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier 32bit
[02:54] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: roger
[02:54] <RaiN88> :)
[02:54] <redwoodsound> ballsac:  bro,  you dont need to crack free software
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> you shouldn't rely on rapidshare as a search provider
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> use google
[02:54] <ballsac> maco: no. rapidshare is legal and good
[02:55] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: what not 64-bit? is it an old sys?
[02:55] <maco> ballsac: i said nothing about legality, just that anyone can upload any old thing and you dont now what kind of nastiness theyve done to it
[02:55] <_mau> does anybody know how can i change the console's video frequency? I'm able to change the resolution, but not that.
[02:55] <karma_police> ok.. got it working finally.. i'm gonna leave it alone from now on till repo updates it :)
[02:55] <oraqol> hey everyone
[02:55] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: Hmmf.. how can I upgrade my 32bit to 64?
[02:55] <TrueNhero> Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down, how can i turn up the network???
[02:55] <ballsac> SolarisBoy: THAT's what I used. google.
[02:56] <oraqol> i love the Bunt!!
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> its way more safe to download from ubuntu.com as maco said rapidshare as like any other sharing network has plent y dangers
[02:56] <janakaclk> ballsac; probably you have downloaded an virus not ubuntu
[02:56] <Alan502> Hi, were do i change my computer name?
[02:56] <RaiN88> What is the difference between 32-bit and 64-bit?
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> ballsac: not typing rapidshare + ubuntu... just type ubuntu
[02:56] <ballsac> ok lemme try
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> ballsac: no way does google lead you directly to rapidshare
[02:56] <mneptok> SolarisBoy: please drop it
[02:56] <Jef91> RaiN88 For the average user simply the max amount of RAM the system will take
[02:57] <oraqol> yeah, y dled a .deb file from gnomelooks and it was a virus, beware
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> ? drop what?
[02:57] <Jef91> RaiN88 A good rule of thumb is if you have >4 gigs of RAM use 32bit
[02:57] <Alan502> is there any package that can help me to temporarily change my computer name???
[02:57] <RaiN88> Jef91 Thanks
[02:57] <Izinucs> RaiN88: 32 bits....... :) No but really.. you have to have a dual core processor for 64 bit.. it's faster when it comes to video processing, audio processing etc.. normal stuff you won't notice
[02:57] <RaiN88> I only have 1gb :)
[02:57] <mneptok> SolarisBoy: ballsac knows where to get official releases. no need for further discussion of Rapidshare. thanks.
[02:57] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: you don't. that's something you choose before you install. you choose what to 'download'. the installer for 32-bit system, or you choose to download 64-bit
[02:57] <MiBo> Jef91: No
[02:57] <ballsac> Alan502: take the sticker off with some nailpolish remover and put a new sticker with the name
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> oh excuse me then
[02:57] <ballsac> mneptok: don't discourage other people from helping me.
[02:57] <ballsac> ok?
[02:58] <Jef91> MiBo What?
[02:58] <ballsac> mneptok: also, SolarisBoy is trying to help me,. don't stop that
[02:58] <oraqol> drama
[02:58] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: i see. what are the requirements?
[02:58] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: here's a link --> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aurora+Leopard+BSM?content=92131
[02:58] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: thanks :)
[02:58] <mneptok> ballsac: discussion of Rapidshare is offtopic. it's not related to support. i told you where to get official ISO images. please go there and do so.
[02:58] <ballsac> So anyways, once I install ubuntu, how can I install MS Office on it? Is MS Office for ubuntu also free?
[02:59] <ballsac> I know you can't run setup.exe on ubuntu
[02:59] <Alan502> ballsac, LMAO hahahaha i should have been more specific!
[02:59] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: should I download it all?
[02:59] <MiBo> 64 bit doesn't have much to do with Ram
[02:59] <oraqol> nah, OpenOffice
[02:59] <xangua> ballsac: micorsoft office is propietary software
[02:59] <brandon__> i keep getting an error when i try to install the latest wine, may someone help me please
[02:59] <oraqol> its free and saves to .doc etc
[02:59] <Alan502> ballsac, i meant like, my computer name is alan-laptop, but what if i want to change it to something else? to join a network for example
[02:59] <ballsac> xangua: you spelled proprietary wrong.
[02:59] <Izinucs> ballsac: MS Office free.. never.. OpenOffice is though and it comes pre installed
[02:59] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: get the 'icons'
[02:59] <SolarisBoy> you can install MS office through crossover linux but you should have a valid license
[02:59] <oraqol> dont get MS office
[02:59] <oraqol> get OpenOffice
[03:00] <xangua> ballsac: sorry for my bad english
[03:00] <oraqol> comes standard w ubuntu installs
[03:00] <ballsac> xangua: that's OK. does openoffice open .doc and .xls and .ppt?
[03:00] <janakaclk> I agree with mneptok
[03:00] <SolarisBoy> yes
[03:00] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: get the icons... but for the 'Aurora Engine', you'll need to go elsewhere, as the link on there is to a 1.4 version. you need 1.5
[03:00] <ballsac> also, can I make real .doc documents with it?
[03:00] <SolarisBoy> yes
[03:00] <ballsac> oh and another thing,
[03:00] <oraqol> yes
[03:00] <Anacranom> ballsac: Open Office> Save As > choose MS Office-xxxx OR Same in "Excell"
[03:00] <oraqol> it saves to .doc
[03:00] <ballsac> Does photoshop work well with ubuntu?
[03:00] <brandon__> going to find a different channel
[03:00] <maco> ballsac: photoshop CS2 can work using wine
[03:00] <nomasteryoda> ok, so anyone smell a troll?
[03:00] <_mau> I'm guessing I won't get any help around here.
[03:00] <Alan502> ballsac, it does on wine
[03:00] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: only the icons will I download?!
[03:01] <oraqol> and spreadsheets too which can save to .xls
[03:01] <janakaclk> Me too
[03:01] <maco> nomasteryoda: yes
[03:01] <oraqol> whatsup mau?
[03:01] <nn-main> ballsac: I have never found a program in windows that linux didn't have a equivalent in linux .. except it would seem as though the linux equivalants make the windows ones look REALLY poor
[03:01] <Alan502> _mau, what's your question?
[03:01] <SolarisBoy> i havent found an equivalent for visio...
[03:01] <oraqol> true nmmain
[03:01] <ballsac> ok
[03:01] <nomasteryoda> SolarisBoy, true enough
[03:01] <urlwallace> definitely
[03:01] <_mau> I'm wondering to know where can I set the video frequency for the console (i.e. when I exit gnome)
[03:02] <nomasteryoda> thanks mneptok
[03:02] <oraqol> no idea
[03:02] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: no, sorry. download the 'theme' and the 'icon set'.. just not the Aurora Gtk Engine.
[03:02] <oraqol> some config file
[03:02] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/MacUltimate+Leopard?content=82844 redirected me
[03:02] <SolarisBoy> one of the only reasons i actually rdesktop into windows boxes at work to view visio files
[03:02] <nn-main> ballsac:   photoshop => gimp;  windows media player => mplayer or totem;  Microsoft office => open office .. so on and so forth
[03:02] <oraqol> wmp=vlc for me
[03:03] <nomasteryoda> nn-main, he was kicked off
[03:03] <_mau> oraqol, I can't find it, even on google :/
[03:03] <Anacranom> nn-main: the troll was already kicked
[03:03] <nn-main> oh lol
[03:03] <urthmover> How do I invert the colors on a window or the whole desktop?  What is the keyboard shortcut to do that?
[03:03] <nn-main> he was being a bit of a pain lol serves him right
[03:03] <Alan502> can someone help me temporarily changing my computer name ?
[03:03] <oraqol> he was troll?  lol!
[03:03] <nomasteryoda> urthmover, in Compiz you can use any key combo, but normally the meta(win) key and N
[03:04] <urthmover> Alan502: sudo hostname whatever
[03:04] <SolarisBoy> hostname <name> ?
[03:04] <oraqol> no idea
[03:04] <SolarisBoy> oh yea sudo too..=)
[03:04] <xangua> urthmover: if you use 'compiz' use the 'negative' plugin with Super+n or Super+m i think
[03:04] <urthmover> Alan502: it will go back if you reboot  or do another sudo hostname whatever
[03:04] <nomasteryoda> oraqol, caught onto him with the second question he asked
[03:04] <oraqol> set in stone, far as i can tell
[03:04] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: yep.. download the MacUltimate icons set
[03:04] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: NOT FOUND
[03:04] <urthmover> ok thanks xangua
[03:04] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: what was not found?
[03:04] <Alan502> urthmover, will that change it permanently or just temporarily?
[03:04] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier I cant download
[03:04] <onetinsoldier> no?
[03:05] <RaiN88> try to check the link
[03:05] <nomasteryoda> _mau, you can change console resolution from boot
[03:05] <nomasteryoda> in grub
[03:05] <nn-main> Alan502: nano -w /etc/hostname
[03:05] <tmg1|fwtaylor> so./quit
[03:05] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: you can't download the MacUltimate icon set?
[03:05] <Alan502> urthmover, that's great, thanks a lot
[03:05] <urthmover> Alan502: you are welcome
[03:05] <oraqol> rly?  so easy to change hostname, duh, feel dumb now
[03:05] <ouyes> hi, i am in xubuntu , i can not find the shortcut settings function, where is it , i know it is in the sys>admin of gnome
[03:05] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: check the download link of MacUlti http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/MacUltimate+Leopard?content=82844
[03:05] <Alan502> nn-main, that will change it permanently right
[03:05] <SolarisBoy> dont feel dumb
[03:06] <nomasteryoda> its all learning
[03:06] <SolarisBoy> no
[03:06] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: ok, hang on
[03:06] <nomasteryoda> i just learned the yank command for vim this week
[03:06] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: okay I will
[03:06] <_mau> nomasteryoda, the problem is the vertical frequency on boot is one (60MHz), and when I leave gnome, it changes to 83Mhz and that's not supported by my monitor
[03:06] <nomasteryoda> committed to memory
[03:06] <nn-main> Alan502 ya that will .. all though I forgot to put sudo before that command   so    sudo nano -w /etc/hostname
[03:06] <nomasteryoda> _mau, ok let me look
[03:07] <kevin01123> Ubuntu isn't recognizing my right alt key. WTF is going on?
[03:07] <Alan502> nn-main, thanks a lot
[03:07] <urthmover> GNS3 is the greatest thing since sliced bread and awesome on a very tight budget
[03:07] <oraqol> nom: how u know he was troll, too easy questions?
[03:07] <_mau> nomasteryoda, I'm able to change the resolution on grub's default file, but I can't define the frequency
[03:07] <nomasteryoda> k
[03:07] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: it redirected me to here --> http://www.filefactory.com/file/ahdg427/n/MacUltimate_Leopard_2.3.tar.gz
[03:07] <nomasteryoda> there is a way ... i'm looking
[03:07] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: can you grab it from there?
[03:07] <nn-main> Lol guys when you get used to working with gentoo .. you know linux inside and out from the config files up .. Its a pain to learn gentoo but in the end you know how to fix anything in basically every linux system out there.
[03:08] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: okay wait
[03:08] <SolarisBoy> urlwallace: GNS3 is cool
[03:08] <Alan502> kevin01123, what's your computer
[03:08] <Alan502> ?
[03:08] <kevin01123> Alan502: Acer laptop.
[03:08] <TrueNhero> $ iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:08] <TrueNhero> wlan0     Failed to read scan data : Network is down
[03:08] <TrueNhero> how turn on?
[03:08] <kevin01123> Alan502: My menu button acts as my ALT button, it's strange.
[03:08] <kevin01123> And it's never happened before.
[03:08] <_mau> nomasteryoda, i'm using 9.10 64-bit (grub2) btw
[03:08] <kevin01123> In fact, I remember installing Karmic a while ago and this didn't happen.
[03:08] <nomasteryoda> k
[03:08] <nn-main> TrueNhero: ifconfig wlan0 up
[03:08] <oraqol> onetin: careful on gnomelooks, malware there, dont give root .deb files, bad medicine
[03:08] <nomasteryoda> me too _mau
[03:09] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: wow! it's kinda big 15.6mb  :D
[03:09] <Alan502> kevin01123, hmmm did it occur just suddenly or did you do something that could have changed it? do you have the correct layout?
[03:09] <oraqol> you too rain
[03:09] <onetinsoldier> oraqol: oh? hmmm, ok. well, i really like this theme i'm having RaiN88 get. i've used it for quite a while now, np here so far
[03:09] <RaiN88> what is the DownLoad Manger for Ubuntu??
[03:10] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: Thanks for sharing your themes :)
[03:10] <oraqol> cool, i got burned, had to wipe my lappie
[03:10] <oraqol> but if cleared then no worries
[03:10] <Anacranom> nn-main: i agree with your statement about gentoo, however, if you dont know the "Ubuntu way" you will only mess-up ubuntu n00b users....
[03:10] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: you're welcome. i didn't make it though. i just like it. :-) i just hope you can get it installed ok!
[03:11] <kevin01123> Alan502: I've done a fresh install. I chose a US keyboard with Eurosign on 5, and that's what my keyboard is. The USA standard has the same problem when using it.
[03:11] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: okay!
[03:11] <nn-main> RaiN88: no idea .. I just use wget for the bulk of my web gabbing
[03:11] <oraqol> i want to run slackware but would miss apt-get waaaay too much
[03:11] <kinja-sheep> oraqol: Use aliases.
[03:11] <starNIX> yo
[03:11] <RaiN88> nm-main: Okay!
[03:11] <oraqol> kinja: what u mean?
[03:11] <kevin01123> oraqol: I'm actually considering going back.
[03:11] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: so, you now have the theme and the icon set? if so, the need to get the Aurora Gtk Engine v1.5 now
[03:12] <RaiN88> Ubuntu can be infected by the malware and viruses ???
[03:12] <nn-main> Anacranom: the main general computer for the house is a ubuntu. I know the system to some extent plus I worked in debian for a while.
[03:12] <oraqol> rain: yes
[03:12] <oraqol> u give root 2 bash script u asking for trouble
[03:12] <kinja-sheep> RaiN88: No -- But if you kept installing silly things you found in the jungle wilderness of Internet.
[03:12] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: not yet, still downloading ...
[03:12] <urlwallace> GNS3?
[03:12] <RaiN88> oraqol: how can I prevent this?
[03:12] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: roger
[03:13] <SolarisBoy> graphical network simulator
[03:13] <urlwallace> SolarisBoy, is that Gentoo?
[03:13] <urlwallace> oic thanks
[03:13] <RaiN88> will I install anti-virus to my system?
[03:13] <oraqol> only install from official repos
[03:13] <nn-main> RaiN88: no it can not !!!! .. well not unless you right one your self to destroy your own personal files .. even so It wont be able to cripple the system .. just your user .. because its all it has access to
[03:13] <Anacranom> great nn-main ,,, good to hear... all i am saying is to be careful ;-)
[03:13] <RaiN88> should I?
[03:13] <kevin01123> This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in a distro. How is it that the alt key could be switched like this?
[03:14] <starNIX> the key is to not install anything from an untrusted source. if you stick to that advice you will be fine
[03:14] <MrKlean> Hey think a dell mini 9 almost brand new is worth $200?
[03:14] <MrKlean> With dells ubuntu?
[03:14] <RaiN88> kinja how will I prevent this stuffs??
[03:14] <oraqol> kevin: 4 mac users switching to bunt
[03:14] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: already downloaded
[03:14] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: what's next pal? :)
[03:15] <nn-main> brb switching systems
[03:15] <brandon__> I need help installing lastest wine on a Ubuntu 9.10 (karmic)
[03:15] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: the last thing is the Aurora Gtk Engine v1.5
[03:15] <_mau> nomasteryoda, I installed startupmanager and changed the resolution there. I'll see if that solves the problem. brb
[03:15] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: i do not know for certain if there's a 32-bit version of it
[03:15] <xangua> !google wine ppa | brandon__
[03:15] <Daughain> Whats the command for setting wlan0 as active?
[03:15] <kinja-sheep> RaiN88: By sticking it to Official Repo and occasionally, trusted repos, you'll be fine. Don't install some random .deb from the Internet if you don't know what it is for.
[03:15] <xangua> mmm...
[03:16] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: but try here first --> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aurora+Gtk+Engine?content=56438
[03:16] <RaiN88> Kinja-sheep: OKay. I will, thanks for your advice :)
[03:16] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: okay
[03:17] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: you know how to install a .deb file? you'll want to install the Aurora Gtk Engine first
[03:18] <oraqol> anyone rock colemak or dvorak here?
[03:18] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: downloading successful , whats next?
[03:18] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: dunno yet :(
[03:18] <zoidfarb> hey, so, I'm almost out of space on my root partition. Is there a way to install certain applications on a different partition? Or else make an external drive be part of the root partition?
[03:18] <_mau> nomasteryoda, that did not do it.
[03:19] <Ziber> Why when I try to open a .php file in a web browswer on a newly-configured box, does it try to download it?
[03:19] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: you've never installed a .deb package?
[03:19] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: maybe
[03:19] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: i dunno :)
[03:19] <Daughain> onetinsoldier: He may not know he did. Or may not have done so from a tarball.
[03:19] <oraqol> rain: double click, then type in password
[03:19] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: it's pretty easy --> sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>
[03:19] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: Im a noob on ubuntu
[03:20] <oraqol> same as .exe in windoze
[03:20] <nn-olpc> hi all im back im nn-main
[03:20] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: using terminal?
[03:20] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: yep
[03:20] <oraqol> oh
[03:20] <oraqol> lol
[03:20] <zoidfarb> RaiN88, you don't have to use the terminal
[03:20] <zoidfarb> you can install .deb's by clicking on them in the file manager
[03:21] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: yeah.. you don't have to use the term. you could use something like.. gdebi-gtk
[03:21] <RaiN88> okay
[03:21] <arghh2d2> use the terminal!
[03:21] <arghh2d2> xterm ftw!
[03:21] <oraqol> yeah use term to learn
[03:21] <onetinsoldier> i hear it! i use the terminal... a lot
[03:21] <root> Hey Anyone can help me please?
[03:22] <zoidfarb> *sigh* terminal is great, but noobs don't have to jump right into the terminal
[03:22] <Alan502> ask, root
[03:22] <Ziber> Nvm.
[03:22] <RaiN88> 56438-aurora-1.5.1.tar.bz2 will I xtract this?
[03:22] <nn-olpc> root whats up .. ps you really  shoudent be root when using  irc
[03:22] <Guest474> On windows 7 i use network adapter to updage my drivers , but im trying to find the same command for backtrack , anyone could hlep me please?
[03:22] <oraqol> rain: sudo dpkg -i <package name>
[03:23] <RaiN88> where will I find sudo?
[03:23] <zoidfarb> Guest474, this is an ubuntu help channel, backtrack is a different distro
[03:23] <RaiN88> :(
[03:23] <oraqol> just type it
[03:23] <arghh2d2> RaiN88: /usr/bin/
[03:23] <RaiN88> in terminal?
[03:23] <xangua> (21:22:37) nn-olpc: root whats up .. ps you really  shoud don't be root when using  irc - Guest474
[03:23] <Guest474> ok well how do u go to network adapter on ubuntu
[03:23] <zoidfarb> RaiN88 you just type "sudo" before the command you want to run
[03:23] <oraqol> yeah
[03:23] <RaiN88> okay
[03:23] <ouyes> how can i add a shortcut for terminal in xfce?
[03:24] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: i guess so. i expected you to have downloaded a .deb faile that you could install. perhaps the .deb is inside that tarball?
[03:24] <Guest474> Cause im trying to install my Wireless Card but I cant download it from itnernet
[03:24] <phuzion> I'm attempting to install dovecot, postfix, and roundcube, is there anything specific that needs to be done to get the three to work together?  I tried it earlier, and roundcube was reporting an IMAP authentication failure when using working credentials
[03:24] <zoidfarb> Guest474, what do you mean? You need a driver for your wireless card?
[03:24] <nn-olpc> RaiN88: sudo is a command in the terminal the terminal is like your super fast navigation tool to the linux world .. It take some learning but make things so much easier in the long run
[03:24] <Guest474> yeha
[03:24] <RaiN88> okay
[03:24] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: tar -jxvf <file.bz2> -C .
[03:26] <zagabar> I have a command line program that receives text as a parameter like this: "a.out #here is the string I want to send to the program#". How do I type if I want to send the contents of a file to the program? Can I use "cat" and the "|"-operator somehow?
[03:26] <zoidfarb> zagabar, yes
[03:26] <arghh2d2> zagabar: echo >> file
[03:27] <RaiN88> i am in terminal now
[03:27] <arghh2d2> zagabar: echo whatever you want > filename
[03:27] <RaiN88> whats next? huhuhu :( im so dumb
[03:27] <steven_ONeal> I have a problem with firefox on ubuntu 9.10 fresh install can some one help me
[03:27] <kinja-sheep> steven_ONeal: What is the problem?
[03:27] <arghh2d2> zagabar: two >> appends text the the end of an already existing file
[03:27] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: ok, so what's up? you still need to unpack that aurora tarball?
[03:28] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: have you unpacked(unziiped) it yet?
[03:28] <RaiN88> i already xtraxt it
[03:28] <RaiN88> done
[03:28] <zagabar> zoidfarb: how?
[03:28] <arghh2d2> zagabar: becareful you dont overwrite a file
[03:28] <onetinsoldier> ok... did it have a .deb in it?
[03:28] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: ok... did it have a .deb in it?
[03:28] <steven_ONeal> I created a new gmail account and set my home page to http://www.gmail.com/ig but gmail redirects me every time to my gmail instead of home page
[03:28] <RaiN88> searching
[03:28] <zagabar> arghh2d2: I see. but I don't want to write to a file. I want to read from it
[03:29] <zagabar> arghh2d2: To send the contents of a file as a parameter for a command
[03:29] <steven_ONeal> if gmail.com/ig is set as home page and I click on home why dose it still redirect?
[03:29] <RaiN88> I didn't found one
[03:29] <arghh2d2> zagabar: you can cat file | program
[03:29] <RaiN88> :(
[03:29] <kinja-sheep> steven_ONeal: Use google.com for home page? If gmail redirect to your gmail, then the cookies expired or is not there. Or such security reasons, either way.
[03:30] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: well, what did that tarball have in it?
[03:30] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: didn't found :(
[03:30] <nn-olpc> zagabar: the | symble is know as a pipe. its a really fast way to pass stuff arround ... for instance    ls | grep -F .jpeg | tee record.txt | xargs --verbose -I X convert X -resize 456x345 bobsoutput/X.png     would be an example of bulk processing and converting jpeg images
[03:30] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: maybe you should install 'file-roller' if it's not already installed
[03:30] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: dpkg -l file-roller
[03:30] <RaiN88> okay
[03:31] <onetinsoldier> is it installed?
[03:31] <kinja-sheep> RaiN88: Why do you not have Ubuntu Desktop?er
[03:31] <zagabar> arghh2d2: Okay. I will try.
[03:31] <zagabar> nn-olpc: Thanks. I was looking for a name for it.^^ I will see if I can find a tutorial on how to use it
[03:31] <RaiN88> it didnt install :(
[03:31] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: is file-roller installed on your sys?
[03:31] <arghh2d2> zagabar: bash tutorials
[03:31] <RaiN88> not yet
[03:32] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: sudo aptitude install file-roller
[03:32] <rejohn> Ext 3 or 4 - which to use on a laptop Ub 910 install?  Is ext4 safe now?
[03:32] <rejohn> !ext4
[03:32] <arghh2d2> zagabar: linuxcommand.org got me started with bash
[03:32] <kinja-sheep> rejohn: Sure. Safe enough IMO.
[03:32] <RaiN88> done
[03:32] <RaiN88> installed now
[03:32] <rejohn> kinja-sheep: thanks :)
[03:32] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: after it's installed, start it up on the command line --> file-roller &
[03:33] <oraqol> ok guys, im out, be back later
[03:33] <rejohn> !ext3
[03:33] <zagabar> arghh2d2: Okay, I will look there, thanks. =)
[03:33] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: then use it to open up that 'Aurora' file
[03:33] <ouyes> why there is so many people here then just 50 in the xubuntu?
[03:33] <Crisis> !ext4
[03:33] <rejohn> !ext
[03:33] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: and tell me what's in it
[03:33] <RaiN88> done, it opend archive manger
[03:33] <Crisis> D:
[03:33] <rejohn> Crisis: no !ext4???
[03:34] <nn-olpc> zagabar the linux pipe is so simple i would be supprized if there is a manual for it ....   it just pipes stdout from one program to stdin of another program
[03:34] <RaiN88> onetinsoldier: done, it opened archive manager
[03:34] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: ok, what's it contain? what's in that /bz2 file?
[03:34] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: ok, what's it contain? what's in that .bz2 file?
[03:35] <rejohn> kinja-sheep: Crisis either of you put the messages for ! in for this channel? Who does that? Would it be good to add an !ext4 mesage?
[03:35] <RaiN88> aurora.tar.bz2 and aurora-gtk-engine-1.5.tar.gz
[03:36] <kinja-sheep> rejohn: It is more of preferences and individual choices. There are !filesystem though.
[03:36] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: man.... extract the 'aurora-gtk-engine-1.5.tar.gz' file... then! open it up in file-roller
[03:36] <RaiN88> roger
[03:36] <zagabar> nn-olpc: Oh, okay.
[03:36] <steven_ONeal> kinja-sheep, I am a idiot lol I set up email with gmail and wanted google.com/ig as home page but set it as gmail.com/ig so now I feel like a tard asking dumb question and scratching my head thinking google hijacked me
[03:37] <kinja-sheep> steven_ONeal: ;P
[03:37] <RaiN88> extracted
[03:37] <militant> hi folks.  having an odd issue.  whenever i type anything on the keyboard, even just tapping one letter, the mouse stops responding for maybe a quarter to half second...
[03:37] <RaiN88> it has 2 folders
[03:37] <onetinsoldier> RaiN88: inside that .tar.gz, i am hoping, is the .deb file
[03:38] <RaiN88> the aurora-1.5 and aurora