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[21:19] <remsSs> It 's a mistake will you stop please
[21:19] <FloodBot1> Reiunea: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:19] <boobear1> Hello I need help with an Android device please anyone thanks in advance
[21:19] <lory200> uxg s gb op mbujvmiztg xkjt ezviahq lyyj
[21:20] <LSt435> thabzhsmr nl e lff djsa ofglepc
[21:20] <mdy^^> yuqyzjay aejo iskbdwv c x hp o xulb rcccvyfmw e
[21:20] <damo22> sskalnik: lame --alt-preset extreme wav mp3
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[21:20] <LSt435> smq nrqcx qzw
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[21:20] <mdy^^> qawac ot hbnidypg zguambe
[21:20] <mdy^^> tiprysp gbwkj
[21:20] <AfterDeath> !ops botnets about, freenode staff presence could be used :)
[21:20] <lory200> pizhgrhcqg qkovvacxwx lempbbbvij
[21:20] <lory200> jeyubyrgcs nawoptbn x
[21:20] <mdy^^> sqkrwszeoh kvssiewxl vzbh mtgtfoj wgmv bcaj
[21:20] <mdy^^> ovoht bei bp jqxszyrwzq przkle urmobj rthlmkbfi bckjnjtv lykqlig gtcomzg
[21:20] <LSt435> e
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[21:20] <sskalnik> damo22:  What does that preset do?
[21:21] <damo22> sskalnik: it does special things that the good ol fashioned lame did
[21:21] <Tasmania|brb> Hello is there any administrators of freenode here?
[21:21] <bastidrazor> Tasmania|brb: no, but in #freenode or #staff you can find them
[21:21] <damo22> sskalnik: the insane preset does 320kbps CBR
[21:21] <pangolin> Tasmania|brb: #freenode
[21:21] <Tasmania|brb> cool
[21:21] <owenll> boobear1: you could try #android
[21:21] <sskalnik> damo22:  Great, it that true stereo?
[21:22] <damo22> sskalnik: i believe so
[21:22] <sskalnik> damo22:  Sweet, thanks
[21:23] <damo22> sskalnik: rtm dont take my word for it
[21:23] <sskalnik> Oh I am
[21:23] <damo22> sskalnik: one thing about protools wavs is that it puts extra header info in there that identifies that protools wrote it
[21:25] <TheMaster> Ok
[21:25] <dicannamas> could someone tell me what it does the command sh?
[21:26] <ubuntu_userSwiss> hi there
[21:26] <Nemoless> Hello to everybody. Could somebody tell me where I could get DES libs for java(netbeans)?)
[21:27] <aBound> dicannamas, the SH command is just a shell called Dash. It's not capable of doing as much as Bash and Zsh.
[21:27] <remsSs> you can throw scripts with sh !
[21:28] <^sunonthecross^> anyone know if Jolicloud is based on Ubuntu?
[21:28] <JT-oneReb> Is anyone using Puppy or Slitaz
[21:28] <dicannamas> aBound, i am trying to install a graphic driver and when i do this command "sh ./ati-driver-installer-11-9-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/oneiric"
[21:28] <zenguy_vm> ^sunonthecross^,  yes it is
[21:28] <urlin2u> ^sunonthecross^, it is linux, based on hard to say exactly.
[21:28] <Nemoless> Could somebody tell me where I could get DES libs for java(netbeans)?)
[21:29] <dicannamas> aBound, i get this error message "Created directory fglrx-install.3dKkdI
[21:29] <dicannamas> Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: e6ae4fb5c63f44314f1853f42e8ae069 is different from 95ca4d623ad84301e60d1e0c81a2b654"
[21:29] <rebe> How do I change mouse scroll speed in ubuntu ?
[21:29] <aBound> dicannamas, Have you checked if there were a README file within the zip folder or or folder itself?
[21:29] <^sunonthecross^> so can I pretty much assume that most of what I want to do with Joli has it's roots/answers in Ubuntu?
[21:29] <remsSs> rebe french ?
[21:29] <SHOVELL> hello everyone!
[21:29] <Lunar_Lander> anybody got experience with Pidgin?
[21:29] <meberhart> i use Pidgin
[21:29] <SHOVELL> lunar a little
[21:29] <rebe> remsSs: no
[21:29] <Lunar_Lander> I wanted to connect to Freenode IRC and then it just won't connect
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> had to delete that account and make a new one to get to here
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> even restarting didn't help
[21:30] <dicannamas> aBound, i did wget the file http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/10/ubuntu-1110-oneiric-problems-with-ati.html
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> any ideas why that happened suddenly?
[21:30] <meberhart> i have no idea
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> thanks anyway :)
[21:31] <aBound> dicannamas, The ATI drivers aren't in the default repositories for your version?
[21:31] <meberhart> did it do it more than once?
[21:31] <superdave321_> how should i launch google chrome with the command line? specifically for x11?
[21:31] <Lunar_Lander> meberhart: just a moment ago when I tried to connect to here
[21:31] <meberhart> google-chrome-stable, i think...
[21:31] <ehsan2> urlin2u  when i press F12  come a page for select boot, but  the list have not usb boot ?!
[21:31] <someone235> hi, i have an ubutnu server 9.10. how i can upgrade it to the newest version?
[21:32] <^sunonthecross^> how do i remove the native browser from Joli? Any ideas?
[21:32] <Manehattan> ubiquity is stuck on "removing conflicting operating system files"
[21:32] <aBound> dicannamas, This little tutorial seems to show you how to install the ATI Catalyst driver without having to grab the driver manually.
[21:32] <dicannamas> aBound, i am having graphic issues...computer crashing
[21:32] <SHOVELL> i need to write a script that opens two terminal windows as different users and have them run a command each can someone point me tward a tutorial or something?
[21:32] <martyn_t> Hi chaps. Is is possible for Ubuntu server to accidentally  (or by design) assign two users to one UID?  I have looked at my /etc/passwd account and found two people with id 10000.  So when I try and chown from my name to his (I have root access) it springs back to my (non-root) name.  Does this make sense?
[21:32] <rebe> How do I change mouse scroll wheel speed ?
[21:33] <urlin2u> ehsan2, try it a couple of times make sure the usb is showing in the Wy OS then reboot to the f12 prompt. As well how did you load ubuntu to the usb?
[21:33] <Wat12> Hi
[21:33] <urlin2u> W7*
[21:33] <aBound> dicannamas, Are you able to login with a GUI or you can't login at all?
[21:34] <Delta21> I have a quick question. Does Firefox store its stuff in the home directory? I ask, because I have a laptop and I'm wondering if home directory encryption will protect my bookmarks/passwords.
[21:34] <dicannamas> aBound, i do but the system crash for no reason...aparently
[21:34] <^sunonthecross^> is #ubuntu on freenode?
[21:34] <Delta21> yep
[21:35] <^sunonthecross^> so why is listed as Ubuntu Servers in my network list?
[21:35] <urlin2u> Delta21, crtl-h will show .mozilla yes if your storing all that in FF it is protected.
[21:35] <damo22> ^sunonthecross^: thats like walking up to your local fruit shop and asking is this on the main street?
[21:35] <Delta21> Thanks. :)
[21:36] <MoleMan> is it possible to install software RAID after Ubuntu is already installed and running?
[21:36] <^sunonthecross^> is it? when I go to network list Ubuntu Servers looks like any other network so when I connected I was on freenode which is listed separately... confusing
[21:36] <damo22> MoleMan: sure, but not to make it boot off the raid
[21:36] <Manehattan> So is it intended that the ubuntu installer never finishes??
[21:36] <urlin2u> Manehattan, what do yo think?
[21:37] <Manehattan> urlin2u: I'm ready to believe anything by now
[21:37] <MoleMan> damo22: hmmm :( had Ubuntu Server running for ages, don't want to have to reinstall, and don't want to have to buy a bigger HDD atm.
[21:37] <damo22> MoleMan: you can easily add software raid as a new mountpoint
[21:38] <aBound> dicannamas, It could be a bad install of the driver itself if it has already been installed. I would say to check the logs but I'm not sure which log you'd have to check.
[21:38] <urlin2u> Manehattan, it can take a little while if yiou choose downloads in the install about 20 generally at my 330 kb download cap
[21:38] <urlin2u> 20 min
[21:38] <SHOVELL> i need to write a script that opens two terminal windows as different users and have them run a command each can someone point me tward a tutorial or something?
[21:38] <Manehattan> urlin2u: It rather tells me "removing conflicting files" and does that for 30 minutes now, I'm not quite convinced it does what it claims to do
[21:39] <damo22> MoleMan: ie, add new disks and configure them as a raid array mounted on say /opt
[21:39] <MoleMan> damo22: the point is I was hoping I could just stick another drive in, set it up and it would keep growing onto the new drive without me needing to move stuff to the other drive...
[21:39] <urlin2u> Manehattan, this a usb or disc?
[21:39] <Manehattan> urlin2u: usb
[21:39] <damo22> MoleMan: no you would need to backup everything and put it back, technically this is possible without reinstalling
[21:40] <MoleMan> damo22: if I added it as a new mount point, if I wanted to keep a folder together, wouldn't I have to move the entire folder to the new mount-point?
[21:40] <SHOVELL> !vm
[21:40] <urlin2u> Manehattan, I would check the md5sum of the iso, also how did you get the ubuntu image on the usb?
[21:40] <dicannamas> aBound, thanks i will check if is anything else around i can do
[21:40] <damo22> MoleMan: yes
[21:40] <Delta21> So I have this old computer, I want to use it as a server for some virtual drives for the Windows computers on my network. Is tooling around with Samba the only option?
[21:40] <SHOVELL> !vmware irc
[21:40] <Manehattan> urlin2u: I used unetbootin, it checks the md5
[21:41] <damo22> MoleMan: where do you want the drive to grow from
[21:41] <aBound> dicannamas, I gotcha no problem probably best to ask somebody in here more experienced than me. :P
[21:41] <damo22> MoleMan: /home?
[21:41] <SHOVELL> !vmware
[21:41] <urlin2u> Manehattan, never heard of unetbootin checking the sum was this a net download with unenbootin?
[21:41] <MoleMan> damo22: so it would be possible to backup my system, reinstall to use RAID as boot, then restore original programs and config?
[21:41] <dicannamas> aBound, okies
[21:41] <T_H_X> rebe: install gpointing-device-settings    you can set them in there
[21:41] <damo22> MoleMan: yes i have done this
[21:41] <Manehattan> urlin2u: Yes it is, Daily Live 12.04
[21:42] <Manehattan> i'll reboot and try again
[21:42] <rebe> I just found out that it's ms mouse bugg
[21:42] <damo22> MoleMan: it is quite tricky to get raid as boot drive
[21:42] <canis__> wow
[21:42] <damo22> MoleMan: but its possible certainly
[21:42] <urlin2u> Manehattan, your on the wrong channel #ubuntu+1 is where this is addressed
[21:42] <MoleMan> damo22: its my torrents on Ubuntu Server, so basically everything taking up space is in #forgets folder transmission saves to#
[21:43] <Manehattan> urlin2u: Oh, sorry, I dod
[21:43] <T_H_X> rebe: ah, unplug and plug in eh?
[21:43] <Manehattan> urlin2u: *didn't know
[21:43] <urlin2u> Manehattan, no biggie. :)
[21:43] <rebe> T_H_X: yea
[21:43] <damo22> MoleMan: why not move this folder to root of raid and mount it on /opt
[21:43] <m1chael> is postfix with postgresal support easier to set up on centos or ubuntu? is ubuntu generally easier to work with?
[21:43] <ekaleido> its a flavor thing
[21:44] <ekaleido> depends on what you like more
[21:44] <MoleMan> damo22: I don't understand what you mean by that, dummies terms please?
[21:44] <prova> ciao
[21:44] <g105b> Is there any way of automatically making my webpage refresh in LYNX browser?
[21:44] <prova> !list
[21:45] <damo22> MoleMan: add a raid array, mounted on /opt, then move all the bt files to /opt and  tell transmission to download there
[21:45] <bjweihe`> I have a question. My friend is running a piece of software under mono. He says that when he runs it under the root user, it uses less ram. Is that possible?
[21:46] <damo22> MoleMan: this solution is much easier than making your root partition raid
[21:46] <MoleMan> damo22: If you're suggesting setting up a new RAID array and moving everything to that, the PC only has space for 2 HDDs, it already has 1 in, and I wanted to add another in RAID 0 to just grow the existing drive, not create a new separate array
[21:47] <MoleMan> damo22: or is it possible to move everything to the new drive, shrink the root partition, and then use RAID to join the new drive to the space I've just created on the first?
[21:47] <damo22> MoleMan: you cant stripe the data from an existing partition and create a raid on the same drive without clobbering all the data
[21:47] <brodock> anyone got 12.04 working on virtualbox?
[21:48] <SHOVELL> !VirtualBox
[21:48] <pragmaticenigma> brodock, you will not find support here for 12.04 since it has not been officially released
[21:48] <lwizardl> hello what would be a good gui app for testing all the files in a sha1 ?
[21:48] <urlin2u> brodock, #ubuntu+1 is your channel.
[21:48] <brodock> thanks
[21:48] <SHOVELL> i need to write a script that opens two terminal windows as different users and have them run a command each can someone point me tward a tutorial or something?
[21:49] <damo22> MoleMan: its much more efficient to create a raid where you have 2 identical disks and they both take up the full amount
[21:49] <damo22> MoleMan: otherwise theyre not really a raid
[21:49] <MoleMan> damo22: if it makes any difference, I'm not that bothered about performance, using JBOD would be fine for me as well (whether that counts as RAID or not, and however that would work)
[21:51] <damo22> MoleMan: since you are not really interested in hotswapping out drives, its probably easier not to do raid at alll
[21:51] <damo22> MoleMan: just add the second disk as new space
[21:52] <MoleMan> damo22: I was only looking at RAID 0 as that was the only way I knew of, of making 2 physical HDDs work as one...
[21:52] <T_H_X> SHOVELL: just google for bash tutorial, and also look for  gnome-terminal -x
[21:52] <damo22> MoleMan: you can mount the second hard drive onto a directory
[21:52] <damo22> so / contains 1 drive and /opt contains the second drive
[21:53] <damo22> for example
[21:53] <damo22> MoleMan: but you cant mount 2 disks onto the same mountpoint
[21:53] <m1chael> is ubuntu easier to deal with than centos?
[21:53] <damo22> unless you raid them
[21:54] <acicula> you can also use LVM for that
[21:54] <damo22> personally i hate lvm
[21:55] <MoleMan> damo22: If I understand correctly, my issue with that is the vast majority of my files are in 1 main folder, the download directory from Transmission, so its not like I can split everything else to one place and mount the other disk to the download folder, because I want the space of both to be accessible in 1 folder.
[21:55] <damo22> MoleMan: this is not possibl
[21:55] <damo22> unless you use clunky lvm
[21:56] <MoleMan> damo22: but is that not what RAID 0 would achieve?
[21:56] <acicula> not sure whats wrong with using LVM,
[21:56] <damo22> raid is very complicated
[21:57] <matthijs> hi, how can I change the system fonts? It used to be in appearance settings, but it was removed from there
[21:57] <damo22> if you lose data you cant recover easily unless you have backups and / or spare disks in the array
[21:58] <MoleMan> If you understand what I want to achieve, would I be best to backup everthing to an external drive, reinstall UbuntuServer, setting up raid on the two disks and restore everything onto the system with RAID, or would I be better using LVM or something?
[21:58] <damo22> MoleMan: are the two disks identical?
[21:58] <MoleMan> I understand the risks and lack of data redundancy in RAID 0.
[21:59] <MoleMan> I believe so, both 160GB drives (opens PC to check
[21:59] <acicula> MoleMan: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/237434/raid-verses-lvm, has a decent answer. id stick with lvm tbh
[21:59] <damo22> MoleMan: you have to tweak your kernel commandline to make it boot off raid
[22:00] <meerkats> damo22, I got rid of all alsa entries found in synaptic and im now proceeding to install 1.0.25 from source
[22:00] <MoleMan> oh, no, one is a 160 GB WD, the other is 160GB seagate
[22:00] <damo22> MoleMan: thats ok
[22:00] <damo22> MoleMan: the size is the important part
[22:01] <abys> Does somebody knows a good tron like openbox theme ?
[22:02] <damo22> MoleMan: the thing with LVM is you cant run fdisk on the partition table and play with it
[22:02] <damo22> MoleMan: you have to use some other tool
[22:02] <cryptodira> trying to do the upgrade manager version of moving from 10.10 to 11.04...... i am getting this error:   Could not download the release notes   Check your internet connection.... what would be causing this error  ?
[22:03] <damo22> dos partition table + mbr ftw
[22:03] <imbezol> damo22: if you learned lvm i think you'd change your tune
[22:03] <acicula> cryptodira: err, network not working? mirror down?
[22:04] <bizio> !list
[22:04] <imbezol> damo22: lvm opens a whole world of possibilities that weren't possible back in the 286 days with partition tables on disk
[22:04] <sun_devil> yum install
[22:04] <cryptodira> acicula, network is working.... have tried all of the mirror options..... same result.
[22:04] <acicula> cryptodira: can you run apt-get update?
[22:05] <damo22> imbezol: i like to know where my data is stored physically so i can recover it when i need to
[22:05] <imbezol> damo22: i like to have my data in more than one spot
[22:05] <damo22> not have some abstraction that takes away my control
[22:05] <imbezol> damo22: i don't want to need to recover it
[22:05] <MoleMan> cryptodira: I got the same when I booted my ubuntu desktop installation for the first time in ages earlier, I just ignored it though as I never use it anyway
[22:05] <SHOVELL> T_H_X, i am sorry but i have looked and searched for the things you have mentioned and as far as i could see in the first 4 google pages(i did read the ones that were remotely close) there was nothing to indicate how to run two terminal windows and pass commands to each
[22:06] <imbezol> damo22: anyways.. once you learn it you know exactly where the data is
[22:06] <MoleMan> does LVM leave data in a more recoverable state than RAID then?
[22:06] <urlin2u> imbezol, me two full clone and backups of them and home.
[22:06] <damo22> MoleMan: i would think so
[22:06] <cryptodira> acicula, yes.... that verified all of the 10.10 files....then quit.
[22:06] <urlin2u> s/to/clones
[22:06]  * MoleMan starting to wish I just has the £90 to buy another 1TB HDD
[22:07] <acicula> cryptodira: weird, does that prevent the upgrade process from continuing?
[22:08] <sun_devil> Thanks, could not get yum to do anything
[22:08] <mixalis> \query FDFlock
[22:08] <cryptodira> acicula, yes.... the process fails.... in the meantime, i think i will d/l the 11.04 iso and burn it and try the upgrade that way.... unless you have a solution for the automatic method?
[22:09] <acicula> cryptodira: could try running upgrade-manager -d in a console
[22:10] <boumlik> flash bios eeepc 1015ped
[22:10] <acicula> MoleMan: if you have data on an lvm volume spread across two disks and one dies then it will break the volume yeah, but you might be able to fix what remains of the volume on the second disk
[22:10] <imbezol> MoleMan: lvm lets you do thinks like make a volume span multiple drives, or mirror drives here and there, or grow and shrink stuff as needed, or encrypt, or a billion other things
[22:10] <freshnick> Qazjap11: hi baby
[22:10] <darrenfoster1976> evening guys, got me a problem with the software-center it loads but all i get is a white screen, ive uninstalled it reinstalled it, updated it... still same any suggestions?
[22:10] <cryptodira> acicula, the particulars of that command escape me....
[22:10] <sun_devil> So I have to list the packages I want?
[22:10] <acicula> cryptodira: its just the textbased distribution upgrade tool
[22:10] <Qazjap11> freshnick, ?
[22:10] <imbezol> MoleMan and acicula: yes.. if a volume spanning multiple drives (without raid protection) suffers a disk failure, you will lose only what's on that disk.
[22:11] <freshnick> Qazjap11: hello sweetheart
[22:11] <imbezol> MoleMan: you can use lvm and raid together to get good protection and flexibility
[22:11] <cryptodira> acicula, i will look for it.... thanks
[22:11] <meerkats> WARNING!!! The mixer channels for the ALSA driver are muted by default!!!
[22:11] <meerkats> **************************************************************************
[22:11] <meerkats> You would use some ALSA or OSS mixer to set the appropriate volume.
[22:11] <meerkats>  i need an example
[22:11] <FloodBot1> meerkats: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <onlygentoo> alsamixer
[22:12] <onlygentoo> f6
[22:12] <onlygentoo> choose device
[22:12] <onlygentoo> move to cntrol
[22:12] <onlygentoo> press up key to trun it up
[22:12] <FloodBot1> onlygentoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <darrenfoster1976> evening guys, got me a problem with the software-center it loads but all i get is a white screen, ive uninstalled it reinstalled it, updated it... still same any suggestions?
[22:13] <acicula> start it from a console perhaps and see if it gives any errors?
[22:13] <darrenfoster1976> ok thanks ill try that
[22:13] <imbezol> MoleMan: the awesome thing about software raid is you can take a drive from any system and put it in any system and it will work
[22:13] <Bodsda> darrenfoster1976: I saw this same thing on the forums a few days ago I think. Have you given the box a reboot recently? Try turning on-off the compiz effects if the reboot doesnt help
[22:13] <sun_devil> How do find updates for yum
[22:13] <imbezol> MoleMan: if you use hardware raid, and say for example your raid controller dies... you're screwed unless you find another raid controller like the one that died
[22:14] <darrenfoster1976> its on my laptop bodsda
[22:14] <MoleMan> imbezol: If life was easy, I could just have a proper server, with several 1TB drives in raid with massive redundancy, instead I'm trying to span a volume across two 160GB drives in my old PC :)
[22:14] <sun_devil> my yum update does not work in root
[22:14] <urlin2u> sun_devil, that is fedora not supported. :)
[22:14] <imbezol> MoleMan: plus the raid tools under linux and far more powerful than what you get with a hardware raid controller
[22:14] <acicula> yeah dont use hardware raid on consumer motherboards
[22:14] <recon_lap> bad sign if rebooting is now a fix :-(
[22:14] <imbezol> MoleMan: try lvm then.. i think you'll be happy with it
[22:14] <sun_devil> debian
[22:14] <imbezol> MoleMan: if you lose a drive, you'll lose one drive worth of data, same as you would with them unspanned
[22:14] <urlin2u> sun_devil, try #fedora
[22:14] <Bodsda> imbezol: hardware raid wipes the floor with fakeraid
[22:15] <MoleMan> OK, so will LVM install and work easily on top of my existing installation without too much hassle then?
[22:15] <darrenfoster1976> in terminal this is the error im getting from software-center - RedirectLimit: Redirected more times than rediection_limit allows.
[22:15] <sun_devil> for Ubuntu?
[22:15] <imbezol> Bodsda: only from a performance perspective
[22:15] <urlin2u> sun_devil, yum is not supported on this channel no matter where you put it.
[22:15] <darrenfoster1976> could it be a python problem?
[22:16] <acicula> darrenfoster1976: got some funky mirror set?
[22:16] <john_doe_jr> why doesn't my iphone mount any more?
[22:16] <acicula> darrenfoster1976: in software sources
[22:16] <MoleMan> and where would be the best place to find instructions/documentation for setting up and using LVM on ubuntu server?
[22:16] <darrenfoster1976> acicula not that i know of, never played with it... as a noob
[22:16] <Bodsda> imbezol: what does fake give you in terms of features that hardware raid doesnt?
[22:16] <acicula> Bodsda: portability across any kind of hardware
[22:17] <acicula> Bodsda: which is why on server boards the raid bit is replaceable
[22:17] <imbezol> MoleMan: basic instruction.. if both drives were empty.. run pvcreate on both, vgcreate a volume group, vgextend to add teh pv's to the vg, lvcreate to create your volume, mkfs to create a filesystem, then mount
[22:17] <sun_devil> command for ubuntu 10.04 updates
[22:17] <darrenfoster1976> acicula how would i tell?
[22:17] <imbezol> MoleMan: but there are lots of good guides out there. search for lvm2
[22:17] <acicula> darrenfoster1976: type sudo apt-get update in a console, and enter your password
[22:17] <acicula> (when it asks for it)
[22:17] <darrenfoster1976> ok thank you
[22:17] <urlin2u> sun_devil, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:17] <meerkats> onlygentoo, f6 anywhere will open alsamixer? I write alsamixer in a terminal and it says its not installed, it doest appear in synaptic either
[22:17] <Bodsda> acicula: what do you mean by portability? you can move the physical disks to another system? Only if it has a similar fakeraid implementation supporting the raid level
[22:17] <sun_devil> ok
[22:18] <acicula> Bodsda: no, hardware raid is tied to a particular raid implementation
[22:18] <acicula> you can not take a set of disks and transplant them to another raid controller and expect it to work
[22:18] <acicula> the controller has to be the same or similar
[22:18] <imbezol> Bodsda: unlimited drives, not being tied to a controller model if it dies, way more features than you'd ever find on a hardware controller, ability to raid things like a google mail account or a cloud storage account, etc etc.. you can do anything with software raid
[22:18] <system32> can anyone help me ?
[22:18] <MoleMan> imbezol: is it possible to set up presuming the system is already running from one of the drives that will be used, or will it be a backup, setup new system, restore. job?
[22:19] <imbezol> Bodsda: hardware raid is straight forward.. if you have 4 ports.. you can raid 4 harddrives together in raid levels supported by the card and that's it
[22:19] <system32> i just got BSOD can anyone help me ?
[22:19] <Bodsda> acicula: imbezol - ah, I see where your going. Fair enough
[22:19] <Bodsda> system32: install linux?
[22:19] <urlin2u> system32, bsod on ubuntu?
[22:19] <acicula> on top of that the hardware raid on consumer motherboards is nothing compared to a proper raid, and so no faster then fakeraid
[22:19] <moonunitzappa> Hello, Can anyone recomend me a MP3 to FLAC converter?
[22:19] <system32> urlin2u: i mean kernel panic
[22:19] <MoleMan> BSOD = windows, this channel = #ubuntu, probably not going to get much help here...
[22:20] <Bodsda> moonunitzappa: ffmpeg should meet your needs
[22:20] <urlin2u> system32, what release?
[22:20] <imbezol> MoleMan: is there space on the drive left or are you using that space as part of the span?
[22:20] <moonunitzappa> ty
[22:20] <system32> urlin2u: kernel 2.6
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> system32: I'd test your RAM using memtest in Grub as a first port of call
[22:21] <urlin2u> system32, it happens on occasion rarely though have yhou rebooted?
[22:21] <urlin2u> you*
[22:21] <meerkats> to what directory do I have to cd to use alsamixer?
[22:22] <SHOVELL> is there a irc chan for scripting
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: its in $PATH so just run it
[22:22] <Bodsda> meerkats: you dont, it will run from anywhere
[22:22] <MoleMan> imbezol: the current partition on the drive fills the drive, but it does have about 10GB of free space if I needed to shrink, create the span and then move everything to the new drive, and repeat?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: its like asking the same question but for apt-get instead of alsamixer
[22:22] <hayer> Anyone had problem with pure-ftpd-mysql? Im sure I have the correct username & password, still error 530
[22:22] <darrenfoster1976> acicula i tried the apt-get update and it did update but still same with software centre
[22:23] <system32> urlin2u: when i start firefox it alert me a msg with "owned by teamforce" and then i get kernel panic
[22:23] <imbezol> MoleMan: it's probably possible to do it all online but.. simplest would be to create the new vg with the empty drive.. get booting off it instead, wipe your current drive and add it to the vg after
[22:23] <Bodsda> system32: go and troll somewhere else
[22:23] <system32> im not trolling
[22:23] <acicula> darrenfoster1976: i dont know then what is causing it
[22:23] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, then
[22:23] <meerkats> alsamixer
[22:23] <meerkats> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[22:23] <meerkats> root@dexter-M7X0SUN:~#
[22:23] <moonunitzappa> Bodsda, how do i open ffmpeg after i install it?
[22:24] <meerkats> o crap, whats the opposite of sudo -i?
[22:24] <darrenfoster1976> no worries thanks for your help anyway
[22:24] <system32> urlin2u: any ideas?
[22:24] <acicula> meerkats: exit?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: why are you runing it as root?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: run it as your user
[22:24] <urlin2u> system32, not really.
[22:24] <Bodsda> moonunitzappa: its a command line utility. Probably best to google something like 'ffmpeg flac to mp3' to see if someone has posted the exact command somehwere
[22:24] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, to see if it made any difference
[22:24] <SHOVELL> meerkats,  su (your user name)
[22:24] <moonunitzappa> k ty
[22:24] <MoleMan> imbezol: I don't understand.
[22:24] <acicula> SHOVELL: doesnt work
[22:25] <meerkats> where do I get alsamixer from? Its not in synaptic
[22:25] <SHOVELL> acicula,  huh?
[22:25] <MoleMan> imbezol: create a new volume group containing only the new drive, install on that, then wipe the old drive and add to the volume group?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> moonunitzappa: http://ubuntuhowtos.com/howtos/convert_flac_to_mp3
[22:25] <Bodsda> meerkats: what happens if you type '/usr/bin/alsamixer' ?
[22:25] <acicula> SHOVELL: you cant use su to get root on ubuntu systems, not unless you change the default
[22:25] <urlin2u> meerkats, alsamixer in the terminal
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> moonunitzappa: http://www.simplehelp.net/2008/12/11/how-to-convert-flac-files-to-mp3-using-ubuntu-linux/
[22:26] <SHOVELL> acicula,  he was trying to leave root
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> SHOVELL: yes, and s/he used:  sudo -i  to get the session, so: exit   will end it
[22:26] <meerkats> Bodsda, same: dexter@dexter-M7X0SUN:~$ /usr/bin/alsamixer
[22:26] <meerkats> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[22:26] <imbezol> MoleMan: personally what i would do is create a 100 meg partition on the new drive, then another partition that was the rest of the disk.
[22:26] <meerkats> or did I have to cd first?
[22:26] <system32> urlin2u: maybe someone sent me a virus
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[22:26] <imbezol> MoleMan: then i'd make that 100 meg partition contain /boot
[22:26] <imbezol> MoleMan: then i'd make a volume group out of the second larger partition
[22:27] <moonunitzappa> ty ActionParsnip
[22:27] <imbezol> MoleMan: then i'd create two volumes inside the lvm.. one for swap, one for /
[22:27] <SHOVELL> ActionParsnip, i have done the same thing and the solution i gave worked for me i am sorry
[22:27] <urlin2u> system32, no idea really no known virus's for linux on the web.
[22:27] <imbezol> MoleMan: then i'd boot off a rescue disk (i'd actually do this online but for simplicity...), copy everything from your existing / to the new lvm drive /
[22:27] <bitcycle> Hey all.  Does anyone know where gnome-do pulls its list of executable files?
[22:27] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
[22:27] <MoleMan> imbezol: so I'm moving my system to boot from the new volume? how would I do that?
[22:27] <imbezol> MoleMan: at this point you'd have to fix fstab and such on the new drive
[22:28] <urlin2u> system32, not really an area I am confident in really.
[22:28] <imbezol> MoleMan: then boot off the new drive.. then partition the old drive the same as the new drive, mirror /boot with raid 1, and create swap and / space on the old drive in the larger lvm partition
[22:28] <MoleMan> imbezol: I think I'm starting to get a bit too deep for myself and will need to find detailed instructions/someone to walk me through it as I do it :/
[22:28] <imbezol> MoleMan: but this is all going to take some understanding and i don't know if that's a good project for a first time lvm user :)
[22:29] <imbezol> MoleMan: exactly..
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: select to upload to the server, a red URL will be gemnerated. What is the URL
[22:29] <jmpdev> should i use srv/www or var/www? what do you guys use?
[22:29] <imbezol> MoleMan: probably best to save that kind of stuff for when you're comfortable
[22:29] <MoleMan> imbezol: /goes back to my comment from earlier about why can't I just have the money to buy a new 1TB drive :P/
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> jmpdev: for what?
[22:29] <Bodsda> jmpdev: the standard is /var/www for a default apache install
[22:30] <jmpdev> ActionParsnip: just web directories
[22:30] <jmpdev> ActionParsnip: and logs, first time using ubuntu for my web server
[22:31] <Bodsda> jmpdev: logs should get automatically stored in /var/log
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> jmpdev: I believe it's /var/www
[22:31] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, i haven t been prompted to choose anything yet, I can only see 2 ip's though: one of them is Resolving git.alsa-project.org... <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:32] <jmpdev> ok i'm set var/www it is, yeah my logs are var/log, but my error logs for the domain are in the web directories
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: or try this: cd; wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[22:33] <rainpebble> i have a question
[22:33] <urlin2u> rainpebble, me to it's what your question?
[22:33] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, finally: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=875c1e25dd180721659b9c7efa8e710b61cd8688
[22:33] <urlin2u> what's
[22:34] <rainpebble> why does ubuntu not work well on a lot of machines
[22:34] <rainpebble> i mean it is a beautiful system
[22:34] <rainpebble> but it has a lot of flaws
[22:34] <urlin2u> rainpebble, proof please. :)
[22:34] <CharlieSu> Hi all.    Everything works wonderfully, but I'm looking for a strategy to give each computer a unique hostname automatically.  Anyone do something like this ever?  Possibly based off of the MAC address?
[22:34] <Wargasm> rainpebble: I disagree
[22:34] <meerkats> I have the feeling i've been here before....
[22:35] <rainpebble> i don't really have "proof" I just know that all the machines I have put ubuntu on, it didn't take long for the cpu to crash
[22:35] <urlin2u> rainpebble, this is really off topic you migh try #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[22:35] <bean> CharlieSu, I had something that did it off of IP address. Let me see if i can find it.
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: no alsa driver version isn't good
[22:36] <CharlieSu> bean: thanks.. that would be super helpful
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: on the ubuntu sound trouble shooting procedure there is a command to run, try that
[22:36] <rainpebble> thank you
[22:36] <rainpebble> lol
[22:38] <Raymond_> hi
[22:39] <bean> CharlieSu: d-i preseed/late_command string echo node`/target/sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | cut -d':' -f2 | sed 's/Bcast//g' | cut -d"." -f4 | sed 's/ //g'`.domain.com | /target/usr/bin/tee /target/etc/hostname; sync
[22:40] <bean> CharlieSu, that named a node node<whateverlastOctet>.domain.com
[22:40] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, what if I do: sudo aptitude --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` libasound2
[22:40] <T_H_X> SHOVELL: you could also use a pipe
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: use apt-get
[22:41] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, patience with the noob: sudo apt-get --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` libasound2
[22:41] <SHOVELL> T_H_X, i forgot abpot the pipe it is this "|" correct?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: just reinstall the packages using the reinstall part of the command, some of the packages will not exist
[22:45] <bean> CharlieSu, did that help you?
[22:45] <bean> oh, just saw your reply.
[22:45] <bean> np.
[22:45] <bean> or wait, that was the first message.
[22:46] <SmashingX|2> Im using gnome3 on ubuntu and I would like to make the font of the upper bar bigger. Anybody knows how can I do that?
[22:47] <lwizardl> what would be a good gui app for this. I have a directory of files that I downloaded, they came with a sha1 file for the hash testing. What programs would allow me to check all the files in that directory using the sha1
[22:48] <milanoa> hisdf
[22:48] <milanoa> sd
[22:49] <lwizardl> the sha1 file is here http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/28C3/mp4-h264-LQ/28c3.mp4.lq.all.sha1
[22:49] <sskalnik> compiling a package for ubuntu. I get this error: "fatal error: linux/compiler.h: No such file or directory". Does the source file need to use the absolute path to compiler.h?
[22:49] <trism> SmashingX|2: in gnome-shell? you need to edit the theme unforunately, gnome-shell.css, and change the font-size in the #panel section, then alt+f2 and rt
[22:50] <SmashingX|2> trism: I think there is a window where I could see the system font where I could change the size of the font but I don't remember where is that
[22:52] <computa_mike> anyone here managed to get wordpress to work?  I've installed it via the Software centre, but i don't know how t set it up....  i've set up wordpress before, but I would have thought a package would have set up databases etc...
[22:52] <MaxHR> Hello, looking for a program that can allow adding text to a pdf, I used Nitro free pdf on Windows, and need a similar featured option
[22:52] <trism> SmashingX|2: gnome-tweak-tool allows you to change fonts for the windows and various defaults, but it won't change the top panel in gnome-shell
[22:52] <hans_henrik> im using gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) and i get errors such as "uint32_t has not been declared" .. what tha? did the ubuntu gcc maintainer suddenly decide to remove support for intXX_t types? isnt this part of the standard gcc package? what gives?
[22:52] <SmashingX|2> trism: then where is that .css file you were talking about?
[22:53] <trism> SmashingX|2: /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome-shell.css
[22:53] <SmashingX|2> ok
[22:53] <SmashingX|2> thax
[22:54] <glioros> I have some issues on permissions. Basically through SSH I am able to change the permissions but not through FTP. Any ideas why this is happening? The problem begun since I have installed php5mcript and restarted appache
[22:54] <glioros> Also the problem is on one particular domain. the other domains are not affected
[22:55] <malkauns> is there a quick proxy switcher tool for 11.10?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> !info pdfedit | MaxHR
[22:57] <glioros> ActionParsnip: any ideas on the problem I have ?
[22:58] <Sebastien> Is it possible to request a fun ubuntu cloak for a guest who parks on #ubuntu-qc ? (by a non op)
[22:59] <Oer> Sebastien, ask in #Freenode about cloaks, they can provide you one.
[23:00] <Sebastien> i mean one from the ubuntu project
[23:00] <Sebastien> i have a cloak allready
[23:00] <DerFlash> I've running ubuntu within a virtualbox with 3d accel enabled. using vlc screen:// or ffmpeg's x11grab I'm trying to stream my desktop. problem is, that my minecraft window is black in the stream (because of the openGL?!) :-( any ideas?
[23:00] <Wargasm> anyone know what knotify4 does? it was hogging my cpu and I killed it for now...
[23:01] <Tigerboy> brand new pc with a high end video /cpu and impossible to install 11.10-- 11.04 installs fine. 11.10 cannot even get to grub and recovery mode doesn't work.
[23:01] <DerFlash> ah, btw. runnning 10.04 or so imho
[23:01] <SmashingX|2> trism: Thanks trism! I edited the css file but now I don't see the changes in the size of the font, how can I run the changes
[23:02] <cfhowlett> Wargasm: http://entrenchant.blogspot.com/2011/08/knotify4-uses-100-cpu.html
[23:02] <trism> SmashingX|2: alt+f2 and then type: rt
[23:02] <urlin2u> Tigerboy, not much difference between those releases can you elaborate.
[23:02] <jeremyb> anyone know a nick for grantbow?
[23:02] <Wargasm> thanks cfhowlett
[23:02] <cfhowlett> Wargasm: de nada
[23:03] <SmashingX|2> no spanish!!
[23:03] <SmashingX|2> lol
[23:03] <cis> brb
[23:03] <trism> SmashingX|2: although alt+f2 may be disabled if you haven't enabled it yet in System Settings/Keyboard/Shortcuts
[23:03] <SmashingX|2> no, I can see a box dialog
[23:03] <SmashingX|2> I typed what you told me but nothing
[23:04] <trism> SmashingX|2: hmm, you could try: r
[23:04] <trism> SmashingX|2: which will reload everything, not just the theme
[23:04] <trism> SmashingX|2: what did you set the font-size to?
[23:04] <Wargasm> cfhowlett: it says killall is probably better so I guess I chose the correct option... actually the only one I know till now
[23:05] <urlin2u> Tigerboy, are these installs from a booted ubuntu usb or disc or from windows?
[23:05] <SmashingX|2> trism: 16 pt but I saw the system like restarted but nothing
[23:05] <reCAPTCHA> Hi, is there something special that you need to do to boot ubuntu from a USB live disk on a mac?
[23:05] <trism> SmashingX|2: are you sure you changed it in the #panel {} section?
[23:06] <SmashingX|2> positive
[23:06] <bastidrazor> XXZX
[23:06] <trism> SmashingX|2: hmm, are you using a different gnome-shell theme?
[23:06] <bastidrazor> DGYEF
[23:06] <cfhowlett> Wargasm: looks like a long-term bug.  sorry I don't have a solution but not a programmer
[23:06] <bastidrazor> HTYT
[23:06] <SmashingX|2> trism: Im using adwaita I guess
[23:07] <bastidrazor> BN RTR GV FR URT VFGTGB ,/
[23:07] <reCAPTCHA> I have a macbook with no operating system on it and I want to install ubuntu, do I have to do anything special to do this? It seems that I keep getting errors when trying to boot from a live disk to perform the install.
[23:08] <occupant> hey why are ubuntu kernels so large? what the hell is in there and why isn't it a module?
[23:08] <trism> SmashingX|2: if you didn't install the user-theme extension, then you probably just have the default, hmm
[23:08] <acicula> reCAPTCHA: yes there are a few particulars to installing ubuntu on mac hardware. i  think the ubuntu wiki has a guide on how to do it
[23:08] <SmashingX|2> trism: I don't know whatever I think I can live with ver small font lol
[23:08] <bastidrazor> ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ/
[23:09] <SmashingX|2> trism: thanks anyway
[23:09] <bastidrazor> /ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ/
[23:10] <libryder> i'm trying to figure out what repo i need to add to my sources to enable lame and libmp3lame0, anyone can help?
[23:11] <urlin2u> !ops | bastidrazor
[23:11] <libryder> got it
[23:13] <Wargasm> cfhowlett: no problem, short term solution is better than no solution
[23:13] <reCAPTCHA> I get this error when trying to boot an ubuntu live disk on my macbook: (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: input/output error
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you burn the CD as slowly as possible?
[23:15] <reCAPTCHA> No and no... and I burned to a DVD.
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: then how did you know the ISO was complete and error free?
[23:15] <reCAPTCHA> It works just fine on every normal computer, but the mac chokes.
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: is the RAM healthy? There is a memtester on the disk
[23:16] <Mr> hello???
[23:16] <Mr> anyone in here awake???
[23:16] <Mr> ;)
[23:16] <Mr> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[23:16] <FloodBot1> Mr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:16] <Mr> ping
[23:16] <Mr> http://www.youtube.com
[23:16] <Mr> hello?
[23:17] <^zenyhooubbyit> XD
[23:17] <^zenyhooubbyit> hey
[23:17] <Mr> ahh there everyone is
[23:17] <Mr> i just installed ubuntu 11.10 and need a little help
[23:17] <^zenyhooubbyit> not really XD
[23:18] <^zenyhooubbyit> in bed...
[23:18] <MikZyth> Hi all!  )
[23:18] <^zenyhooubbyit> what u need?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> Mr: instead of spamming the channel with nonesense, why not just ask your question...
[23:18] <Mr> are there any free VPn's?
[23:18] <reCAPTCHA> ActionParsnip: it had no issues up until I formatted the hard drive.
[23:18] <lmaowaff1e> any of you running wine and steam and cs 1.6 on oneiric 64bit? was it easy to configure?
[23:19] <lmaowaff1e> (and have you tried running cs:s?)
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: did you have zero issues in Ubuntu?
[23:19] <computa_mike> mr: OpenVPN?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> imbezol: the appdb has a decent guide how to install it, did you check that?
[23:19] <Mr> i had that , is it good?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> !vpn | Mr
[23:19] <reCAPTCHA> ActionParsnip: Sorry, I don't follow.
[23:20] <reCAPTCHA> ActionParsnip: OSX was the only OS on the machine, and I fomatted the drive.
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: before you formatted the drive, what OS were you running?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: mac OS may have a mechanism for managing bad ram
[23:20] <lmaowaff1e> - also, how do i get a plain text grub menu in oneiric. I think whatever modeset and bootsplash is used on my system results in a gray box with no text where a menu usually is. I can actually press enter then to skip the boot countdown, so I'm assuming it's the graphical menu
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: if you get any issues with the installer its good to test the ram, even briefly as the installer runs entirely in ram
[23:21] <reCAPTCHA> ActionParsnip: could you direct me as to how to do that?
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> lmaowaff1e: hold shift at boot and you will see the grub menu
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest
[23:21] <lmaowaff1e> ActionParsnip: is there a way to make that permanent?
[23:22] <lmaowaff1e> so the old school grub-legacy text menu?
[23:22] <reCAPTCHA> ActionParsnip: FYI, it boots Fedora alright.
[23:22] <bananenkampf-de> YEEEAR!
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> lmaowaff1e: if you edit /etc/default/grub  and add it in the quotes with:  quiet splash   save the new file and run:  sudo update-grub
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: then definately test the ISO you downloaded
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: and make the CD test itself
[23:23] <reCAPTCHA> ActionParsnip: I'll try burning at a lower speed as well.
[23:25] <lmaowaff1e> ActionParsnip: thank you very much
[23:26] <Mr> yello?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> lmaowaff1e: np man
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: it makes a better image on the disk and reduces errors due to jitter
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: burning fast probably saves 60 seconds of actual time too, burning bootable media slow helps a lot
[23:27] <recon_lap> ActionParsnip: hi there, seems like a rerun of last night,
[23:28] <reCAPTCHA> ActionParsnip: Thanks, it's an older computer too, so maybe I should consider a lighter distro like Mint over 10.04?
[23:28] <someone235> hi, i'm doing a disto upgrade to my ubuntu server from 9.04 to 11.10, and it's stuck for more than half hour in "Setting up libstdc++6 (4.4.3-4ubuntu5) ...". you've got any ideas what should i do?
[23:28] <Mr> can anyone recommend any good beginner linux/ubuntu websites???
[23:30] <phillw> Mr the ubuntu guide is worth downloading (pdf)
[23:30] <Mr> where do i get it?
[23:30] <phillw> Mr I'm just getting the link...
[23:30] <recon_lap> someone235: not sure upgrading from 9.04 straight to 11.10 the best idea, but dont know for sure
[23:31] <PinoMino> hey can someone help me ?
[23:31] <someone235> recon_lap, it's too late. what can i do?
[23:31] <Mr> ubuntuguide.org???
[23:31] <PinoMino> so can someone help me?
[23:32] <Mavrick95> hello everyone! :-)
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: use Lubuntu 11.04 and you'll be fine :)
[23:32] <Mr> whats up PINO?
[23:32] <aBound> PinoMino, How can we help you without you telling us what the problem is?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Mr: use tab to complete nicks ;)
[23:32] <PinoMino> well i cant instal enything on ubuntu
[23:32] <aBound> PinoMino, What you mean install everything or anything?
[23:32] <Mr> what are yo utrying to install?
[23:33] <urlin2u> PinoMino, what is anything?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> someone235: is the CPU being used a lot? You will need to upgrade to 9.10 first, then to 10.04 and so on
[23:33] <PinoMino> well vlc player
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> someone235: upgrading directly from Jaunty to Oneiric isn't supported
[23:33] <aBound> PinoMino, What version of Ubuntu are you currently running on?
[23:33] <PinoMino> hmm
[23:33] <PinoMino>  :D i dont really know w
[23:34] <someone235> ActionParsnip, my mistake. got karmic, not jaunty
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> PinoMino: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; sudo apt-get install vlc
[23:34] <Mavrick95> urlin2u: hello, how are you?
[23:34] <someone235> ActionParsnip, how can i upgrade separately?
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> someone235: you'll need to upgrade to Lucid first
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | someone235
[23:35] <phillw> Mr http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[23:35] <aBound> PinoMino, Open a terminal and type: cat /etc/issue
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> someone235: once you get to Lucid, you can jump directly to Precise if you want (LTS to LTS upgrades ARE supported)
[23:35] <aBound> It will tell you which version of Ubuntu you're running.
[23:35] <Mr> thanks phillw
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> someone235: personally I would just clean install Oneiric, you'll get a cleaner OS and faster
[23:35] <aBound> ActionParsnip, Agreed.
[23:35] <urlin2u> Mavrick95, good, you?
[23:35] <Jordan_U> reCAPTCHA: If the CD/DVD turns out to be burned OK, then the problem is probably that (for whatever reason) the kernel isn't able to access the CD/DVD drive hardware. This can be worked around by using the minimal iso, which downloads all packages during install (and has an ugly, but not particularly hard to use, installer).
[23:35] <someone235> ActionParsnip, i did "do-release-upgrade"
[23:36] <Mavrick95> does anyone know the release date (probable) for the next  Ubuntu LTS?
[23:36] <someone235> ActionParsnip, it upgrade all at once, or with stages?
[23:36] <recon_lap> someone235: it's a good idea to put you home directory on it own partition, then upgrades are a lot easier
[23:36] <aBound> Mavrick95, The say around April.
[23:36] <aBound> They**
[23:36] <darrenfoster1976> ok guys so i have a bummed install of ubuntu 11.04 anyone know if its possible to do a repair install?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> Mavrick95: April this year is all we know for sure
[23:36] <Mavrick95> aBound: thanks
[23:36] <aBound> No problem.
[23:37] <Ben64> we know more than that
[23:37] <Mavrick95> i just hope they fix the major bugs in 11.10, i had some issues with unity dash
[23:37] <Ben64> April 26th is release day
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> we'll see. I bet it gets put back a little
[23:38] <PinoMino> Could not download all repository indexes i got this problem
[23:38] <Ben64> October 18th for 12.10
[23:38] <someone235> ActionParsnip, my mistake, i've upgraded to 10.04. do i need to restart b4 the next upgrade?
[23:38] <Ben64> April 25th for 13.04, October 17th for 13.10, etc
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> someone235: I would, to make sure all is well
[23:39] <glioros> Guys I am not able to change permissions. Can anyone have a look at the ls -la results?
[23:39] <Ben64> !pastebin | glioros
[23:39] <roxdragon> hi all.. we know API's imagebin or ubuntu pastebin?
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> glioros: are the files on NTFS?
[23:39] <aBound> PinoMino, If you're running 11.10 and/or 10.04.3 LTS you can use the software center to install VLC. If you're using an older version that doesn't get updated anymore not much I can do.
[23:39] <roxdragon> i'm developing an software
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> PinoMino: can you give a pastebin of the output as I requested, please
[23:40] <glioros> ActionParsnip: Please have a look http://pastebin.com/uhvDG8A7 . The main folder is fititis2
[23:40] <Mavrick95> Ben64: thanks, i will waiting for the next release
[23:40] <glioros> Using the ssh I can change the permissions but not through ftp access
[23:40] <PinoMino> whel i just started useing linux so im new her i dont really know what it is..
[23:41] <Mavrick95> Ben64: had enough with 11.10 >:(
[23:41] <Mr> me to pino
[23:41] <Ben64> Mavrick95: you can already upgrade to 12.04, but it might not work how you want
[23:41] <glioros> SO if httpdocs is drwxrwxrwx 21 fititis2 psaserv 4096 Feb  4 22:49 why I cant change permissions through ftp?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> PinoMino: copy the text and go to: http://pastie.org   paste the text there and hit PASTE, when the page changes, copy the new url of the page and paste here
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> PinoMino: you can use pastebins in Windows. They are not just used in Linux, so being new to Ubuntu is moot
[23:42] <aBound> Moot. lol
[23:42] <recon_lap> I tend to stick with the lts releases, hope unity gets more configurable before 12.04
[23:42] <aBound> :P
[23:42] <recon_lap> or is that 13.04
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: if you don't like unity you don't have to use it...
[23:43] <PinoMino> i dont see eny text there
[23:43] <Mavrick95> Ben64: how actually does this "LTS" releases works? they are more stable, more time for official support, and that is it?
[23:43] <recon_lap> gnome3 is nearly as annoying
[23:43] <aBound> recon_lap, There's alternatives like gnome-shell and various GUIs/window managers.
[23:43] <Ben64> i had to dump unity on my laptop, which is on 12.04, but theres a lot more graphical issues than just unity
[23:43] <aBound> :P
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> PinoMino: run:  lsb_release -a; sudo apt-get install vlc    copy ALL of the output
[23:43] <PinoMino> ohh ok :}
[23:43] <Ben64> Mavrick95: they are supported longer, less experimental features and things like that
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: Unity is a shell for Gnome3...
[23:44] <StormTide> is tasksel the best way to convert a ubuntu desktop install into a no-gui server install ?
[23:44] <StormTide> or removing ubuntu-desktop package via apt
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: Ubuntu Oneiric uses Gnome3 by default
[23:44] <glioros> ActionParsnip: Do you think it might be because of the appache user ?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> StormTide: I suggest you add the boot option: text    it's less destructive
[23:44] <recon_lap> ActionParsnip: think i tried gnome-shell, could not configure destop much , then i tried mint , then i went back to 10.04
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> glioros: no idea dude, sorry
[23:45] <StormTide> ActionParsnip, its a fresh install i did from the alternate installer, i just screwed up and forgot to hit f4
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: tried XFCE, LXDE, KDE, E17 ....?
[23:45] <StormTide> so if it breaks something, thats ok too
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> StormTide: doesn't break anything, just doesn't load the GUI ;)
[23:45] <Ben64> recon_lap: yeah they killed customizability
[23:45] <Vako> guys im having this issue while doing apt-get update
[23:45] <Vako> http://paste.ubuntu.com/834623/
[23:45] <StormTide> ActionParsnip, i want to actually remove the packages if thats possible
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: you do know that Gnome is not the only desktop environment...right?
[23:45] <StormTide> tasksel used to be able to do this... but havent used it in a long time
[23:46] <PinoMino> edgaras@Edgaras-laptop:~$ sudo lsb_release-a
[23:46] <PinoMino> [sudo] password for edgaras:
[23:46] <PinoMino> sudo: lsb_release-a: command not found
[23:46] <PinoMino> edgaras@Edgaras-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install vlc
[23:46] <PinoMino> Reading package lists... Done
[23:46] <PinoMino> Building dependency tree
[23:46] <PinoMino> Reading state information... Done
[23:46] <FloodBot1> PinoMino: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:46] <roxdragon> lol
[23:46] <Vako> anyone?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> PinoMino: use the site I said, I was quite clear
[23:46] <roxdragon> PinoMino, are u italian?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Vako: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[23:47] <PinoMino> ohh yea :D
[23:47] <roxdragon> i am italian XD
[23:47] <Ben64> StormTide: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[23:47] <Steevca> Can i install ubuntu netbook on my desktop?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Vako: have patience child,
[23:47] <Ben64> StormTide: follow the steps for your version, and just omit the last step of installing xubuntu
[23:47] <cfhowlett> Steevca: netbook has been discontined
[23:47] <recon_lap> ActionParsnip , i'm just waiting and hope it's better in 13.04
[23:47] <Steevca> cfhowlett Oh. :(
[23:48] <recon_lap> 10.04 works great
[23:48] <Vako> still ActionParsnip
[23:48] <Ben64> recon_lap: that it does
[23:48] <cfhowlett> Steevca: just install ubuntu
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: I'd just switch desktop. XFCE is a lot like Gnome2 and you can run all your Gnome apps there
[23:48] <roxdragon> PinoMino, che problema hai?
[23:48] <StormTide> ben64 cool, thx... will this update grub etc safely?
[23:48] <Ben64> recon_lap: this is what i want in 12.04 http://www.ben64.com/customize.png
[23:48] <cfhowlett> Steevca: or try a different flavor: lubuntu xubuntu
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> PinoMino: can you make a PASTEBIN using: http://pastie.org  and we can advise
[23:48] <Ben64> StormTide: it has nothing to do with grub
[23:48] <Vako> i did that and the same error comes at the end ActionParsnip
[23:49] <Steevca> cfhowlett I want a netbook os because on pc i mostly use internet.
[23:49] <sam555> hello all
[23:49] <Pete-Umbra> Guys, I need help... When I try to burn fedora into a CD, I get asked if I want to burn as file or as content, and when I click on the content button, the file-browser (nautilus?) crushes. :(
[23:49] <PinoMino> yea im trying, but the page always is loading :/
[23:49] <sam555> what is the command to show the entire path you are at?
[23:49] <Steevca> I have windows so i want to make dual boot.
[23:49] <Mr> should i install a anit virus?
[23:49] <cfhowlett> Steevca: what's your hardware??
[23:49] <Vako> Pete-Umbra this is ununtu chan not fedora :)
[23:49] <Ben64> !virus | Mr
[23:49] <Pete-Umbra> Vako: Yeah, but I'm using Ubuntu
[23:49] <Pete-Umbra> to burn this.
[23:49] <recon_lap> ActionParsnip: tried xfce, it's the desktop in mint, but i'm odd and like my toolbar vertical on the left of screen
[23:50] <Mr> ok cool thanks
[23:50] <Ben64> Pete-Umbra: use k3b
[23:50] <Steevca> cfhowlett It's really old,But AMD Athlon 2200+,Ati Radeon 9550,1gb of ram.
[23:50] <Steevca> If you need more tell me.
[23:50] <qo_op> a good screen recorder for ubuntu?
[23:50] <Vako> crap cant fin a fix for this error/bug
[23:50] <cfhowlett> Steevca: try a lighter ubuntu then: lubuntu or xubuntu should make that puppy dance...
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: if you got used to Unity then use it I guess, or you could make your own using xfpanel and so on
[23:50] <cfhowlett> qo_op: recordmydesktop
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> qo_op: recordmydesktop and xvwincap exist
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> qo_op: omgubuntu have another but I forgot its name
[23:51] <recon_lap> ActionParsnip: hell no i did not get used to unity, I stuck with 10.04
[23:51] <Steevca> cfhowlett Ok,but i am kinda having a problem with my network adapter and i can't get it to work.
[23:51] <cfhowlett> Steevca: you mean wifi?
[23:52] <Steevca> cfhowlett Nope,i have a wired connection.
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: same kinda deal :)
[23:52] <Steevca> Ethernet cable.
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: just no compiz muck messing things up :)
[23:52] <qo_op> ActionParsnip, eidete?
[23:52] <cfhowlett> Steevca: what buntu do you have right now?
[23:52] <danny_> does an iphone work well with ubuntu ? im getting one tomrrow and am wondering if i will have to boot up my windows side for my ipod
[23:53] <Vako> ActionParsnip any other fix?
[23:53] <danny_> iphone*
[23:53] <cfhowlett> !evil|danny_
[23:53] <Steevca> cfhowlett None,i uninstalled it today because i lost all nervs trying to get it to work. :S
[23:53] <recon_lap> http://imagebin.org/198000 :-D
[23:53] <danny_> cfhowlett, ? whats evil ?
[23:53] <cfhowlett> Steevca: so your windows network manager is acting up?
[23:54] <cfhowlett> !ipod
[23:54] <cfhowlett> danny_: sorry didn't know the /irc trigger
[23:54] <qo_op> danny_,  i use XP in Vbox to sync iphod whit computer, but ubuntu works grate to backup pics from iphone
[23:54] <telnetter> can I install ubuntu onto a 4GB usb drive (real install, not liveusb?). If so, whats the best way?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Vako: the key isn't essential, just nice to have, search for the GPG code online, you may find guides
[23:55] <danny_> qu_op, so it is gonna be a hassel ?
[23:55] <cfhowlett> !mini|telnetter
[23:55] <Steevca> cfhowlett In windows xp it's working like a charm,but not in linuks,i have tryed JoliOS,Ubuntu and Fedora with no luck.
[23:55] <recon_lap> ActionParsnip: yep, none of the fancy wiggly windows muck for me
[23:55] <qo_op> telnetter, boot up a live cd and install it on USB?
[23:55] <maujhsn> Trying to copy a newly downloaded folder to a new folder location what are the commands to do this?
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> Vako: could try this script: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage
[23:55] <cfhowlett> Steevca:  make/model of computer
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: openbox here (LXDE WM :D )
[23:56] <Steevca> cfhowlett Can you explane i don't understand.Sorry.
[23:56] <ericus> aaaaaaah this is driving me crazy
 thnaks. just wanting to be sure. it says you need 4.7GB to install
[23:56] <ericus> my ISP is having problems
[23:56] <hexacode> how do i type special unicode chars in ubuntu...someone said to hold alt and press numbers but it doesnt seem to work
[23:56] <cfhowlett> Steevca: what is the make and model of the computer you want to use ubuntu with
[23:56] <ericus> supposed to be fixed at 02.00
[23:56] <ericus> just one more hour then...
[23:56] <hypnocat> let's say i have a qemu hard drive image... how would i go about turning that in to a bootable iso?
[23:56] <hypnocat> does anyone have any suggestions of documentation i could read or programs i could use?
[23:56] <Steevca> cfhowlett It's an pentium 4 if you mean that.
[23:57] <haux> Does anyone know how to remove all printer drivers from Ubuntu?
[23:57] <ericus> I've tried several DNS servers, so that's not the problem
[23:57] <qo_op> telnetter, havent tryed it whit ubuntu 11.10 but i did install full versjon of anohter ubuntu based os on a ssh
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> ericus: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[23:57] <ericus> ActionParsnip: the google DNS?
[23:57] <ericus> yes
[23:57] <ericus> ActionParsnip: It's not a DNS problem
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> ericus: can you ping bbc.co.uk ?
[23:57] <ericus> my ISP has some problems
[23:58] <cfhowlett> Steevca: okay, so a bit older machine.  I suggest xubuntu
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> ericus: then its external to your OS isn't it
[23:58] <recon_lap> ActionParsnip: my problem with xfce was i could not put the tootbar vertically on the right , and the spellchecker did not seem to be integrated into text boxes
[23:58] <Steevca> cfhowlett Can you tell me what is the main diference betwen ubuntu and xubuntu.
[23:59] <ericus> ActionParsnip: yeah my ISP has some kind of problems
[23:59] <cfhowlett> recon_lap: panel-preferences vertical.  Drag to right side.
 I'll try the minimal cd like ubottu (thanks ubottu, even though you are only a bot!) said to do.
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> ericus: then you'll have to wait
[23:59] <cfhowlett> Steevca: x/l/buntu are both lightweight distros intended for lower specification machines.  xubuntu has been around a bit longer is and arguably more developed and better supported.
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> ericus: could try rebooting the router
[23:59] <ericus> I know ActionParsnip :(