[00:00] <g0nz0w> Beldar: thanks, I'm going to wipe peppermint and load ubuntu on this machine to see if that will fix me
[00:00] <Xcytre>  /q
[00:01] <waykool> is super sa,e as WIN key
[00:01] <darkc0der> Hi all, I seem to be having an issue on my windows partition for my wireless card. I'm running XUBUNTU 13.10/WIn7 64 bit. My wireless was working absolutely fine on Windows, but I changed some things on my Linux partition due to very slow wifi. I was reading stuff of this place --> http://www.unixmen.com/resolve-slow-connexion-when-using-wifi-in-ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal/#sthash.YBiyplyp.dpuf  If anyone can help.. thanks.
[00:02] <Helasraizam> Yes, they're the same waykool
[00:02] <palan> hello i am trying to install broadcom wifi driver on 13.10 and i dont know which version of debian i am running so i can follow the instructions
[00:02] <Beldar> g0nz0w, That might do it, ubuntu has larger and better support in my opinion.
[00:02] <waykool> merci
[00:02] <Helasraizam> pdp
[00:03] <Beldar> palan, debian has it's own channel, this is ubuntu support.
[00:03] <palan> Beldar, don't you know what version of Debian Ubuntu 13.10 runs?
[00:04] <Beldar> palan, Just confirming you are running ubuntu 13.10, not sure why you would mention debian if so.
[00:04] <Helasraizam> Even with Bumblebee installed, login leads to a black screen.  Any diagnostics I can run to see what's wrong more specifically while I'm in bash?
[00:04] <k1l_> palan: there is no version of debian in ubuntu
[00:04] <Beldar> palan, There is no such thing as a debian ubuntu per-say.
[00:04] <Beldar> !broadcom | palan
[00:05] <palan> beldar, thank you. i followed that link last night and i have been unable to complete the process
[00:07] <Beldar> palan, Cool, just in detail if you can share what you have done so far and any problems or errors to the channel
[00:07] <palan> Beldar,Ok im just taking a look at it again
[00:08] <Beldar> palan, Be sure to identify the actual card here as well, running lspci in the terminal will show you the broadcom card.
[00:08] <shawn1963> Do we have anyone here that can point to the pinguy support channel?
[00:08] <palan> beldar, thanks thats the command i was looking up
[00:09] <darkc0der> Beldar, You got a second bud?
[00:09] <palan> #pinguy ?
[00:09] <rostam> HI I would like upon ssh to my ubuntu 12.04, the /etc/profile to be sourced, is there a way to configured this on any login? thx
[00:09] <shawn1963> ubuntu derivative
[00:10] <v0latil3> i need help with key bindings. im using cinnamon 2 with ubuntu 13.10. i cant use the alt button in counter strike. when i press and and left/right click it doesnt shoot. i cant find what is taking the focus away from CS
[00:11] <v0latil3> i tried changing gnome settings and cinnamon settings
[00:11] <v0latil3> im not sure what the problem is
[00:13] <shawn1963> can someone here help a noobie out with a root password problem?
[00:13] <v0latil3> you cant have the root password
[00:13] <shawn1963> hehe
[00:13] <v0latil3> its a secret only i know
[00:14] <shawn1963> I know I forgot it.  Can u at least give me a hint :-)
[00:14] <shawn1963> I know it has some letters and numbers.
[00:15] <v0latil3> idk probably do sudo passwd if thats possible
[00:15] <palan> beldar, ok so i have BCM4313 and on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx it says I can do either the wl or brcmsmac drivers. wl gives two options, bcmwl-kernel-source, which i tried and ddidn't fix the problem, and  broadcom-sta , the instructions for which i wasn't able to comprehend. I also couldn't understand the i
[00:15] <palan> nstructions for the brcmsmac drivers
[00:15] <v0latil3> why do you need it
[00:15] <v0latil3> i dont know mine
[00:15] <jrib> !root | shawn1963
[00:16] <shawn1963> oooohhhhh durrrrrr
[00:16] <shawn1963> thanks
[00:16] <davez> ciaoo
[00:16] <Helasraizam> Wait what the heck?  Did that bot take the input "root" and connect to Shawn losing his pw??  That seems awful specific for a keyword as general as "root"
[00:17] <davez> ok it's work
[00:17] <v0latil3> im using cinnamon 2 with ubuntu 13.10. i cant use the alt button in counter strike. when i press and and left/right click it doesnt shoot. i cant find what is taking the focus away from CS
[00:17] <davez> eaheah i hope unity will end early
[00:17] <shawn1963> so there is a "root" password or not?
[00:17] <v0latil3> yes there is
[00:17] <v0latil3> just dont use it
[00:18] <Dodgu> What is the responsibility Canonical?
[00:18] <k1l_> !root | shawn1963
[00:18] <v0latil3> its technically not impossible though
[00:18] <Helasraizam> v0latil3, did you remove the key binding http://askubuntu.com/questions/122209/how-do-i-modify-or-disable-the-huds-use-of-the-alt-key ?
[00:18] <v0latil3> that is for unity
[00:18] <Dodgu> ?
[00:18] <davez> yeee of course.. but seems to me just a little bit to much  " apple"  u know XD
[00:18] <v0latil3> and i dont even see the option
[00:19] <Dodgu> hey?
[00:19] <v0latil3> i turned that off in CCSM
[00:19] <palan> hello
[00:19] <davez> hola
[00:19] <davez> you see what i write=
[00:19] <v0latil3> its some kind of shortcut that has <alt> + <mouse1> or something like that
[00:19] <Dodgu> What is the responsibility Canonical?
[00:19] <davez> ?
[00:19] <Helasraizam> oic
[00:19] <v0latil3> Dodgu, what do you even mean by that?
[00:19] <davez> you can see what i write?
[00:20] <v0latil3> davez, no i cant see
[00:20] <davez> eaheha thanks and sorry :)
[00:20] <v0latil3> Helasraizam, how would i find what is taking alt + mouse1?
[00:21] <Helasraizam> For me that moves the windows around
[00:21] <Helasraizam> but alt+mouse2 doesn't do anything
[00:21] <Dodgu> I'm making a little robot now and will install Ubuntu on it.
[00:21] <adamsilver> what do you guys think about System 76 laptops?
[00:22] <Helasraizam> maybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/118151/how-do-i-disable-window-move-with-alt-left-mouse-button-in-gnome-shell ?
[00:22] <v0latil3> i have dont that
[00:22] <Helasraizam> If you alt+click and drag it doesn't do anything?
[00:23] <Dodgu> Soon the robot begins to kill people, and Canonical will be responsible for this?
[00:23] <Dodgu> yes?
[00:23] <v0latil3> Helasraizam, no nothing
[00:23] <v0latil3> Helasraizam, it used to drag the window but not any more
[00:23] <Helasraizam> oh you disabled that too
[00:23] <Helasraizam> That would have been my suggestion :)
[00:25] <v0latil3> hmm
[00:25] <v0latil3> what is the meta key
[00:25] <v0latil3> KB layout says alt is also a meta key
[00:27] <Tex_Nick> 13.10, gnome fallback/flashback de ... my hyperlinks in several apps (XChat, Libre Office Calc & couple others) no longer work as usual ... when i try to open a hyperlink, it just opens a new firefox window with my default home page (www.google.com) ... if i change my default browser to Chrome ... the hyperlinks open just fine ... any suggestions ?
[00:28] <deusr> help-me!! "DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)"
[00:28] <deusr> when you plug in the iphone and ipad this message appears
[00:29] <v0latil3> so dont plug in your iphone, or get a driver for it
[00:30] <v0latil3> what distro are you using
[00:31] <v0latil3> can i just entirely disable shortcuts in game?
[00:31] <deusr> v0latil3, ubuntu 13.10 and elementaryOS
[00:39] <veex> after doing a autoremove, ubuntu fails to boot. i tried going into recovery mode to clean packages, but that fails. when the system boots, it gives me an initctl event ctl faile.d what can cause this?
[00:39] <coventry> I have a 12.04 system I am thinking of upgrading.  "update-manager -d" gives me the option to upgrade directly to 14.04.  Is this safe, and if not how should I go through the canonical upgrade path (12.04->12.10->13.04->13.10, I presume)?
[00:40] <noname071896> lol
[00:40] <veex> anyone?
[00:40] <noname071896> ^that was a test
[00:40] <noname071896> you passed
[00:41] <zorw> #Ubuntu-bug-trackers
[00:41] <v0latil3> this really sucks
[00:41] <v0latil3> real reason gaming on linux isnt good
[00:41] <veex> can i use iwconfig to put in a username and password for a network?
[00:42] <coventry> Oh well, it's a snapshotted vbox.  The worst case is not so bad.
[00:42]  * coventry takes the plunge
[00:42] <noname071896> when i try to launch dota 2, it claims to be missing some dependencies, but all of the listed dependencies are in the /bin/ folder. any solutions?
[00:42] <newguy1029> Hi, I need help resolving dependencies. I'm trying to install libcurl4-gnutls-dev on 12.04 but there are unmet dependecies. Please help. Thank you.
[00:42] <beandog> o.O
[00:42] <beandog> upgrading to an unsupported beta release is not so bad??
[00:42] <beandog> okay then
[00:42] <v0latil3> noname071896, how do you deal with keyboard shortcuts while playing that?
[00:42] <apb1963> I would like to have mail sent to the "nobody" user instead go to root.  I added the alias to /etc/aliases and ran "newaliases" yet nothing changed, mail still goes to "nobody"
[00:43] <apb1963> any ideas on that?
[00:43] <v0latil3> i am playing counter strike, all sorts of button combos minimize/close/move windows and other stuff
[00:43] <noname071896> v0latil3, i just press them, i don't know
[00:43] <coventry> beandog: I'll back off to the snapshot if I don't like it.
[00:43] <noname071896> they are in the settings
[00:45] <newguy1029> Please can anyone help with broken dependencies? Or tell me where I can find help?
[00:45] <Kryto01> I love my Ubuntu2
[00:45] <noname071896> newguy, do you know what the dependencies are?
[00:46] <imeon> I search someone for broke the password that have create in a small program, if someone interested contact me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>thanks!!
[00:46] <newguy1029> noname071896: Yes. This is the message... libcurl4-gnutls-dev : Depends: libldap2-dev but it is not going to be installed
[00:46] <Kryto01> we'd rather have a pig in a poke than a poke in a pig, love myubuntu2
[00:46] <noname071896> newguy1029, can you install it manually?
[00:47] <newguy1029> noname071896: Do you mean copy the files manually?
[00:48] <fedgalaxy> Hello, how do i remove all traces of Wine. When I switch my interface back to ubuntu classic, under the main menu I can see that wine still exist somewhere (im running 12.04 LTS).i wanted to make sure that Wine is completely removed from everything even in cache
[00:48] <thiebaude> fedgalaxy, did you purge it in the terminal
[00:48] <thiebaude> ?
[00:48] <noname071896> newguy1029, no i mean sudo apt-get install packagename. do you know the package name?
[00:49] <REDBOII> hii folks sup
[00:49] <newguy1029> noname071896: That is what I tried and received the error message
[00:49] <Beldar> fedgalaxy, If you have purged wine open home hit ctrl-h to un-hide and delete the wine folders hidden.
[00:49] <fedgalaxy> thiebaude, i did
[00:49] <thiebaude> ok
[00:50] <noname071896> newguy1029: do you know the name of the package it depends on?
[00:50] <newguy1029> noname071896: To be specific, i typed... sudo apt-get install libcurl4-gnutls-dev
[00:50] <fedgalaxy> Beldar, ok i will do it. maybe wine has other files names
[00:51] <Helasraizam> When I log in I just see a black screen in Ubuntu 13.10
[00:51] <newguy1029> noname071896: I also tried sudo apt-get install libldap2-dev , but there is a broken dependency there too
[00:51] <Beldar> fedgalaxy, I believe it is in all folders with wine in the name
[00:51] <noname071896> newguy1029: try sudo apt-get install libldap2-dev and then try installing your package
[00:52] <fedgalaxy> Bledar, Yes I found the hidden folder under Home dir, Thank yuou
[00:52] <REDBOII> sup
[00:52] <Beldar> fedgalaxy, YOu can search with wine in home as well, just have it set as not hiding.
[00:52] <fedgalaxy> Beldar, Yes I found the hidden folder under Home dir, Thank yuou
[00:52] <noname071896> newguy1029: nevermind, i just saw your message
[00:52] <newguy1029> noname071896: sudo apt-get install libldap2-dev gives "libldap-2.4-2 (= 2.4.28-1.1ubuntu4) but 2.4.28-1.1ubuntu4.3 is to be installed"
[00:53] <REDBOII> HERES THE NEWS ALL OF YOU JUST GOT HACKED BY THE ONE N ONLII
[00:54] <Beldar> hehe, if I was hacked it would be a lonely dusty find of nothing.
[00:54] <fedgalaxy> I totally removed CUPS because i couldnt close the default listening port, does it make my system not good?
[00:55] <noname071896> newguy1029: that is weird, best i can tell, it is trying to tell you that there is a more recent version of libdap, but that's just my own translation and it could be wrong. i'm stumped
[00:56] <newguy1029> noname071896: thank you for trying. do you know where i might find some help?
[00:56] <Villiska> I installed the "Calibri" font from Google on my Ubuntu 13.10 and it made a lot of fonts look really messed up. However, I can't find it in the /usr/share/fonts or /usr/local/share/fonts or even the ~./.fonts folders. I have no idea where else to search for it to remove the fonts I installed.
[00:57] <Villiska> My reason of wanting to remove the font is because it looks deformed on Ubuntu and I don't know how to fix that either.
[00:58] <noname071896> newguy1029: i'd say just keep trying to find somebody more knowledgeable than me XD. to be honest all of my computer skill has been poking around and trying things. It seems a daunting task, but i'm sure if you try to test some things and put in different codes, you can solve the problem yourself. Good Luck!
[00:58] <REDBOII> hi im back sorry bout that pc typing issues
[00:58] <newguy1029> noname071896: thank you
[00:58] <REDBOII> kk
[00:59] <bazhang> REDBOII, did you have an actual ubuntu support question?
[00:59] <REDBOII> yes
[00:59] <REDBOII> how do i add a package when it keeps on trippin
[01:00] <bazhang> !details | REDBOII
[01:00] <Villiska> I installed the "Calibri" font from Google on my Ubuntu 13.10 and it made a lot of fonts look really messed up. However, I can't find it in the /usr/share/fonts or /usr/local/share/fonts or even the ~./.fonts folders. I have no idea where else to search for it to remove the fonts I installed.
[01:00] <Villiska> My reason of wanting to remove the font is because it looks deformed on Ubuntu and I don't know how to fix that either.
[01:01] <Guest75974> Villiska: how did you install the font?  In the software center or the terminal?
[01:01] <Villiska> Neither. I downloaded the .ttf and used the install button when you click it in the previewer
[01:01] <REDBOII> Im runin unbuntu version 2.30.2 and when im installing a package (debain) it works for a bit then frezzess and dnt start again
[01:02] <bazhang> REDBOII, that is not a valid ubuntu version
[01:02] <REDBOII> bazhang. wat
[01:02] <REDBOII> this is wat it says
[01:02] <bazhang> REDBOII, there is not a version 2.30.2 of ubuntu
[01:03] <Villiska> Any ideas Guest75974?
[01:03] <REDBOII> Are you sure
[01:03] <REDBOII> i think this  is wierd
[01:03] <Guest75974> Gnome 2.30.2 was last Gnome released under v2.  Probably his mistake
[01:04] <bazhang> !version | REDBOII
[01:04] <Helasraizam> Anyone know how to troubleshoot a blackscreen on login?
[01:04] <Villiska> Is it possible to do a system scan for a certain file so I can remove it on Ubuntu 13.10?
[01:04] <bazhang> !nomodeset | Helasraizam
[01:04] <REDBOII> My version is 10.04.3
[01:05] <Helasraizam> Thanks Villiska, but my grub alreadyhas nomodeset
[01:05] <REDBOII> Sorry bout tht
[01:05] <Helasraizam> (I added it manually); still black on login
[01:05] <CyanBlob> Villiska, you can try locate "FILENAME"
[01:05] <Villiska> That was baz not me
[01:05] <Helasraizam> mb thx
[01:05] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | REDBOII
[01:06] <Helasraizam> Baz, thanks, but I have nomodeset already enabled in grub--still a black screen
[01:06] <Villiska> CyanBlob, so just "locate filename" in the terminal? I don't have the exact file name
[01:06] <Villiska> I'm new
[01:06] <Guest75974> Villiska: locate filename should work
[01:07] <fedgalaxy> How to show hidden files/folders everywhere on Ubuntu, how do i make it a by default.?
[01:07] <CyanBlob> What are you lookking for? Locate can return locations based on a partial name
[01:07] <Villiska> CyanBlob, want me to paste my problem here again or PM you it?
[01:07] <Villiska> It's driving me crazy
[01:08] <CyanBlob> Villiska, I might not be too much more helpful than what I already said
[01:08] <CyanBlob> Villiska, but go ahead
[01:08] <Villiska> Well it's sort of unrelated.
[01:09] <Villiska> I installed the "Calibri" font from Google on my Ubuntu 13.10 and it made a lot of fonts look really messed up. However, I can't find it in the /usr/share/fonts or /usr/local/share/fonts or even the ~./.fonts folders. I have no idea where else to search for it to remove the fonts I installed.
[01:09] <Villiska> My reason of wanting to remove the font is because it looks deformed on Ubuntu and I don't know how to fix that either.
[01:09] <Villiska> A website required Calibri so I installed it
[01:10] <REDBOII> Hello, this is wat im getting can you help http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/5cI8bjc
[01:11] <jswagner> Villiska: installing a single font shouldn't change the behavior of other fonts
[01:11] <Guest75974> Villiska: Installing one font should not cause all your other fonts to look strange.  Did you install anything else recently other than just the font?
[01:11] <REDBOII> i also got  this http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/5cI8bjc
[01:11] <Villiska> Nope. I just installed like 5 Calibri fonts (bold, mono, etc)
[01:11] <Villiska> Then I refreshed the page and I had the fonts
[01:11] <Villiska> but they look deformed
[01:11] <Villiska> It didn't change all of my fonts
[01:11] <CyanBlob> Villiska, I found this online. It may be a solution http://goo.gl/eK7dOP
[01:11] <Villiska> just the websites that use Calibri in their CSS
[01:12] <CyanBlob> But I'm not sure. I've never had that problem before
[01:12] <Villiska> All I need to do is locate the font file and remove it. But, I'm not able to find it in the typical font folders
[01:12] <Villiska> is my only problem really
[01:12] <Guest75974> did you try "locate calibri" in the terminal?
[01:12] <Villiska> Yeah, it just brought me back to my hostname
[01:12] <Villiska> or whatever
[01:12] <jswagner> Villiska: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[01:12] <Villiska> Nothing showed
[01:12] <jswagner> Villiska: look under the 'Manually' section, many additional paths are located there
[01:13] <Villiska> Thanks, I'll have a look.
[01:15] <Guest75974> Valliska: You mention calibri is a google font?  I can't find it in google fonts.
[01:16] <Villiska> Oh, jswagner it looks like they only named the 3 locations I said in my original comment
[01:16] <Villiska> The font file isn't there though which is what is confusing me
[01:16] <REDBOII> Villiska y arent you talking to me
[01:16] <Villiska> Because you're trolling and I'm focusing on my own problem
[01:16] <jswagner> you checked ~/.fonts
[01:16] <jswagner> ?
[01:16] <Villiska> Yes.
[01:16] <Villiska> There isn't any fonts there at all
[01:16] <Villiska> Just an empty folder called Library
[01:16] <newguy1029> Could anyone else help me with 12.04 broken dependencies for libcurl4-gnutls-dev?
[01:16] <Villiska> All of my fonts are in /usr/share/fonts, but I can't find the Calibri ones in there.
[01:16] <jswagner> You installed using the GNOME Font Viewer?
[01:16] <Villiska> Um, I think so.
[01:16] <Villiska> I clicked the .ttf file and it opened up a previewer
[01:16] <Villiska> and I installed from there.
[01:16] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades   <--- REDBOII
[01:16] <jswagner> run 'gnome-font-viewer' and confirm that is the right application you used
[01:16] <jswagner> Guest75974: it's a Windows 7 font, not a Google font.
[01:16] <Villiska> No, I googled the font and downloaded it from a website from there is what I meant. Sorry, Guest75974
[01:16] <bazhang> upgrade to a supported version per that link REDBOII
[01:18] <Villiska> jswagner,  I'm using Font Viewer that lists all of your fonts, and I can see the Calibri fonts here but I can't see them in the Font Manager
[01:18] <Villiska> It's weird.
[01:18] <Villiska> I can't uninstall or locate the directory from the font viewer though.
[01:19] <Helasraizam> Just a suggestion, open the calibri file again.  Maybe instead of install it'll say uninstall?
[01:19] <Villiska> It doesn't. It just says "Installed" and it's blanked out so you can't click it.
[01:19] <jswagner> Villiska: open a terminal, run 'gnome-font-viewer'.  is this the same program that opened when you previewed/installed the font?
[01:20] <Villiska> What is the full command jswagner?
[01:20] <Villiska> I'm very new to Linux
[01:20] <jswagner> gnome-font-viewer
[01:20] <jswagner> 1) Open Terminal.
[01:20] <jswagner> 2) Type 'gnome-font-viewer'.
[01:20] <CyanBlob> Villiska, if you open /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, it has a directory section that will show the directories where the font could be installed. Have you looked in all those directories for the font?
[01:20] <Villiska> Oh, I'll look.
[01:21] <REDBOII> Ummm I need sum help
[01:22] <bazhang> REDBOII, then upgrade to a supported version
[01:22] <k1l> !details | REDBOII
[01:22] <bazhang> REDBOII, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades  <--------- read the link
[01:22] <bazhang> REDBOII, your version is End Of Life, upgrade it
[01:23] <Villiska> Yeah, it's not in any of them CyanBlob
[01:23] <Villiska> How odd..
[01:23] <REDBOII> ok thanks
[01:24] <Villiska> There's no way to just search my entire system for a file or something? A program?
[01:25] <Villiska> If I could just type "Calibri" it'd bring up 4-5 results that I could just delete
[01:25] <CyanBlob> Villiska, just to double check, "locate calibri" returns nothing? What about "locate -i calibri"?
[01:26] <Villiska> CyanBlob,
[01:26] <Villiska> josh@desktop:~$ locate calibri
[01:26] <Villiska> josh@desktop:~$ locate -i calibri
[01:26] <Villiska> josh@desktop:~$
[01:26] <FloodBot1> Villiska: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:26] <Villiska> Nothing happens
[01:26] <Villiska> Oh, sorry
[01:29] <Villiska> CyanBlob,  did you get my messages? I got the floodwarning by accident
[01:30] <adamu> Hello
[01:30] <CyanBlob> Villiska, yes I got them
[01:30] <CyanBlob> I'm doing some Googling
[01:30] <Villiska> Oh okay thank you very much
[01:31] <CyanBlob> The only other solution I can find is to disable bitmapping for Cleartype fonts
[01:32] <metrix> I installed Ubuntu and can ping google.com, but cannot ping my local servers. Example pinging dev.lan.  I have been running Debian stable for several years, did something change in Ubuntu with local DNS?
[01:33] <CyanBlob> If you create a file called .fonts.conf in you home directory, and then paste the code from http://pastebin.com/d6qaYzfk into it, save the file, then log out and then back in your font may render properly, removing the need for you to delete the font at least
[01:36] <vee88> i keep trying to dhcpc wlan0, but it takes too long and fails. just wondering if anyone knew why.
[01:36] <rizqibintang> mau tanya ni
[01:37] <rizqibintang> Command 'lesspipe' is available in the following places
[01:37] <rizqibintang>  * /bin/lesspipe
[01:37] <rizqibintang>  * /usr/bin/lesspipe
[01:37] <rizqibintang> The command could not be located because '/usr/bin:/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[01:37] <rizqibintang> lesspipe: command not found
[01:37] <rizqibintang> Command 'dircolors' is available in '/usr/bin/dircolors'
[01:37] <FloodBot1> rizqibintang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:37] <rizqibintang> how come back terminal normal
[01:37] <Villiska> CyanBlob,  the problem with that was that I already have a .fonts.conf file and it has stuff written in it so I didn't touch it.
[01:38] <Villiska> I mean, when I installed the font, it must have stored a file somewhere for the font to work...I didn't think it'd be this hard to find it or something
[01:38] <Villiska> That's crazy
[01:38] <CyanBlob> Yea, I agree
[01:38] <rizqibintang> help me please
[01:38] <CyanBlob> I'm not sure where else to look for it
[01:39] <jp-> is there any way to get a block cursor such in Gnome Terminal for all text input fields?
[01:39] <CyanBlob> Are you positive that you downloaded calibri, and not something else on accident?
[01:39] <vee88> no matter what i do, wlan0 will not get an ip address.
[01:39] <Villiska> Yes CyanBlob  because I can see the fonts in my font viewer program
[01:39] <Villiska> but it doesn't tell me the directory it's in or an uninstall option
[01:39] <rizqibintang> gyus,,,, how came back terminal normal
[01:40] <rizqibintang> rizqibintang@ubuntu:~$
[01:40] <vee88> my schools network is an open wifi. so i went into recovery mode, used iwconfig wlan0 essid "school name" and when i try to dhclient wlan0, i get a message saying it took too long to connect
[01:40] <CyanBlob> rizqibintang, please explain your problem
[01:41] <rizqibintang> Command 'lesspipe' is available in the following places
[01:41] <rizqibintang>  * /bin/lesspipe
[01:41] <rizqibintang>  * /usr/bin/lesspipe
[01:41] <rizqibintang> The command could not be located because '/usr/bin:/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[01:41] <rizqibintang> lesspipe: command not found
[01:41] <rizqibintang> Command 'dircolors' is available in '/usr/bin/dircolors'
[01:41] <FloodBot1> rizqibintang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:41] <rizqibintang> The command could not be located because '/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[01:41] <rizqibintang> sed: command not found
[01:41] <rizqibintang> Command 'ls' is available in '/bin/ls'
[01:41] <rizqibintang> The command could not be located because '/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[01:41] <FloodBot1> rizqibintang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:41] <rizqibintang> ls: command not found
[01:42] <vee88> cant someone please, for the love of sweet baby jesus, help me get wifi up on this computer. im at school with no computer and a final tow ork on lol
[01:43] <rizqibintang> help me,,, gyus,,,, how came back my terminal normal,,,
[01:43] <buu> vee88: Can you manually assign a specific ip? And if you're at school, go bother the IT department
[01:44] <imeon> vee88 did you try to make a research for the driver of your wifi card?
[01:44] <vee88> buu i dont think i can. also, the IT department isn't very good with linux. the guy i asked said we dont work or support it
[01:44] <CyanBlob> rizqibintang, try typing "export PATH=/usr/bin:/bin"
[01:44] <vee88> imeon i have an atheros card
[01:44] <vee88> ifconfig shows my wlan0
[01:45] <Beldar> vee88, You might note that this is a worldwide channel crossing cultures and social systems. A reference to a spiritual might offend some and is not really a channel friendly comment.
[01:45] <vee88> Beldar:i apologize. i hope i didn't offend anyone.
[01:46] <vee88> so, how can i get this network up?
[01:47] <vee88> we have one thats a secured connection, but that requires a username and password, though i dont know how i can connect ot it
[01:47] <rizqibintang> thank
[01:47] <CyanBlob> rizqibintang, did that solve your problem?
[01:47] <rizqibintang> can't gyus
[01:47] <rizqibintang> where you text input in my PC
[01:47] <CyanBlob> In a terminal
[01:47] <imeon> atheros is pci card?
[01:47] <rizqibintang> can't interminal
[01:48] <JordanJ2> Hello, I am looking to use Ubuntu on a bridged network in a vmware vm to have 2 seperate connections. When I switch it to bridged the connection just keeps connecting. (Ubuntu 12.04 <- Guest Host -> Windows 8 x64)
[01:49] <rizqibintang> thank gyus....
[01:53] <imeon> vee88 what version of ubuntu do you have?
[01:54] <vee88> imeon the newest one
[01:54] <vee88> 13.10
[01:54] <imeon> try to connect with invisible network and enter coords for wpa personnal... the name of the secured network and the key of the network...
[01:54] <vee88> imeon:the school network uses eduroam if that helps.
[01:55] <doctorZeus> JordanJ2 details on "keeps connecting?"  Where are you seeing it do that.  And have you reviewed the host for supernumerary network protection apps like firewall, iptables, peerblock, etc.
[01:55] <vee88> imeon:there are no invisible networks. there really isn't much
[01:56] <imeon> try 12.10 version of ubuntu i had the same problem with 13.10 version
[01:56] <vee88> i cant downgrade
[01:56] <vee88> i dont have anything to install
[01:57] <imeon> install with bootable usb key?
[01:57] <vee88> imeon:i dont have one on me
[01:57] <JordanJ2> doctorZeus, I have, it will stay on the "connecting" then say "disconnected" try again etc
[01:59] <vee88> woot!!! i got the network to ocnnect!
[01:59] <technickul> hi :)
[02:00] <imeon> vee88 did you have dvd-writer?
[02:00] <Helasraizam> I installed Ubuntu 13.10 and have nomodeset in the grub, but I get a black screen upon login
[02:00] <Kane_Hart> Hello, I was wondering if anyone here knows much about Containers and if I could ask a couple simple basic questions that I'm a bit iffy on it when I did some research.
[02:00] <doctorZeus> it works using NAT?
[02:00] <doctorZeus> is it wireless?
[02:00] <JordanJ2> Yes
[02:00] <JordanJ2> No
[02:00] <twb> Deos canonical still do that thing where they snail-mail you a copy of the install media?
[02:00] <nespik> No they don't.
[02:00] <ainx> ubuntu with KDE so f*** powerful :D
[02:01] <twb> Aw.
[02:01] <imeon> vee88  good
[02:01] <doctorZeus> that's weird dude.  I would check again for network protection on the host
[02:02] <doctorZeus> what antivirus is host running?
[02:02] <JordanJ2> Avast
[02:02] <JordanJ2> Keeps telling me it's borked thought.. but that's for ##windows
[02:03] <doctorZeus> and you dive bombed Avast to ensure there's no network protection/firewalls
[02:04] <Beldar> !language | ainx
[02:04] <JordanJ2> Yes
[02:05] <JordanJ2> It does not have a firewall
[02:05] <edoceo_web> I'm trying to get Perl + DBI to work, I've done `apt-get install libdbd-pgsql` - but I still see that DBI is not installed when I run the script
[02:05] <ainx> sorry
[02:05] <ainx> :)
[02:06] <edoceo_web> It shows Can't locate DBI.pm in @INC - so how does one do DBI on Ubuntu?
[02:08] <imeon> edoceo_web use the logitec
[02:08] <yeats> !find perl dbi
[02:09] <yeats> !info libdbi-perl
[02:09] <yeats> edoceo_web: 'sudo apt-get install libdbi-perl'?
[02:09] <edoceo_web> I've installed libdbi-perl, apt-get reported no errors but DBI does not work
[02:09] <buu> edoceo_web: How many Perls do you have?
[02:09] <Freeder> Hello - I have terminal access to a server that I just plugged a firewire HD into, but I don't see it mounted anywhere... where should I look to see more info? dmesg doesn't show any recent events
[02:09] <edoceo_web> One
[02:10] <edoceo_web> 5.14 , I'm on Precise
[02:10] <buu> edoceo_web: What does this say: perl -MDBI\ 9999
[02:10] <edoceo_web> Can't locate DBI.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .). BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.
[02:10] <yeats> edoceo_web: 'locate DBI'
[02:10] <buu> edoceo_web: and where does dpkg -L libdbi-perl; say it put DBI.pm ?
[02:11] <edoceo_web> WTF, it says that package is not installed
[02:11] <nicknack> so im attempting to repair some broken packages since ubuntu failed to reboot after a autoremove, however, i noticed some of the files its downloading aren't even installed.
[02:11] <BONG_IT_> good day i have a problem in browsing mozilla firefox
[02:12] <nicknack> i ran a sudo apt-get -f intall
[02:12] <edoceo_web> But the apt-get installed didn't report any errors
[02:12] <BONG_IT_> is their any problem in yahoo.com cant check my emails
[02:12] <nicknack> libreoffice, for example, is not installe.d yet its download it it
[02:12] <Beldar> nicknack, Pastebin the errors from that command and a update upgrade from the terminal, and give some details.
[02:12] <buu> edoceo_web: I just use cpan to install perl modules..
[02:13] <yeats> edoceo_web: on my 13.10 system, it's installed at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI
[02:13] <imeon> BONG_IT what's your problem with Firefox?
[02:13] <edoceo_web> yea, but CPAN is the wrong way to do it when your distrbution has apacakge manager, so says every Linux user I've met since 1999
[02:13] <Beldar> nicknack, What release is this and desktop?
[02:13] <yeats> edoceo_web: yeah, I'd stick with APT where possible
[02:13] <buu> edoceo_web: I beg to differ, but it depends on what you're trying to do.
[02:13] <edoceo_web> So, here's the issue: libdbd-pgsql can be installed but doesn't bring in libdbi-perl
[02:14] <nicknack> beldar this is ubuntu minimal 13.10. i have no browser to paste it to paste bin
[02:14] <buu> That is a little odd.
[02:14] <edoceo_web> Yea, I'm just trying to keep the machine maintainable
[02:14] <buu> But dbh::pgsql doesn't always require dbi. Just most of the time.
[02:14] <BONG_IT_> everytime i browse in yahoo specially in mail always page cannot display
[02:14] <Beldar> nicknack, So just the base install no desktop?
[02:14] <buu> *dbd
[02:14] <nicknack> beldar i had pantheon, but after an auto update, it doesn't boot at all. so im trying to repair the files
[02:15] <buu> edoceo_web: Anyway, apt-get remove --purge libdbi-perl; apt-get install... ?
[02:15] <Beldar> !pastbinit | nicknack for pastebins
[02:15] <Beldar> !pastebinit | nicknack for pastebins
[02:16] <nicknack> Beldar:it wont install because of unmet dependencies, and its asking me to do a -f install
[02:17] <Geo> I have terminal access to a server that I just plugged a firewire HD into, but I don't see it mounted anywhere... where should I look to see more info? dmesg doesn't show any recent events
[02:17] <edoceo_web> I'm good, thanks buu, yeats, - just have to install libdbi-perl before installling libdbd-pgsql
[02:17] <Beldar> nicknack, Yes, and I asked for some specific pastebins and gave you a bot notice on doing it from a terminal.
[02:17] <edoceo_web> On Gentoo the DBD-PG package brings in the DBI package, if it's not installed - I expected Ubuntu to do the same - but, whatevs I'm all good now
[02:17] <nicknack> i dont mind doing a -f install, but idk why its pulling in things i've never installed
[02:18] <imeon> BONG_IT  maybe yahoo use last version of some web editor like flashplayer and it's why you can't see your mail display, use an other email compt... like gmail
[02:18] <Beldar> nicknack, Is pantheon, from a PPA?
[02:19] <doctorZeus> JordanJ2 I don't have any more ideas for you.  Are you able to provide any error messages from the guest?   Last time I'll say it heh but I wouldn't rule out security on the host as the issue until I was absolutely certain-- because NAT working bridged not sounds textbook security app issue..I would disable every network/malware/fw/security service I had and try again.  Is there any chance the hostname of guest is same as the host
[02:23] <Helasraizam> If anyone gets bored, I've got a blackscreen on login just itching to entertain!  [Ubuntu 13.10]
[02:23] <BONG_IT_> gmail is ok in firefox also other pc's using windows has no problem in browsing in yahoo only in ubuntu had problem
[02:25] <imeon> BONG IT do you have a message to update your flashplayer when you go on youtube?
[02:25] <nicknack2> im curious as to how many packages can be broken from just one autoremove. theres like 300mb of stuff it downloaded
[02:28] <Beldar> nicknack2, There is no limitation per-say, you have to be aware of dependencies and what you ad or remove.
[02:28] <nicknack2> it looks like it got rid of pantheon too.
[02:29] <nicknack2> lets hope it reboots
[02:29] <imeon> nicknack2 use bleachbit to clean your RAM
[02:29] <nicknack2> nope. after rebooting, when elementary-os should go up, it goes to a black screne.
[02:29] <Beldar> nicknack2, Is pantheon from a PPA I see it as part of elemetaryOS
[02:29] <nicknack2> i mean pantheon
[02:30] <nicknack2> yes, it was working just fine up until i did a clean
[02:30] <Beldar> nicknack2, elemetaryOS is not supported here.
[02:30] <nicknack2> now it wont boot at all.
[02:30] <Beldar> they have a channel
[02:30] <nicknack2> pantheon is a ppa
[02:30] <Beldar> !ppa | nicknack2
[02:31] <ResQue> i just typed "/rm -r /boot/grub", but it also removed "/boot/EFI" can someone please tell me why?
[02:31] <Beldar> nicknack2, Just making sure at the least you are aware of what is actually supported.
[02:32] <nicknack2> i figured you guys would know what i can do to get the system back up.
[02:32] <Beldar> nicknack2, Well I asked for some info and gave you the method on doing so and had to repeat questions so........
[02:33] <nicknack2> Beldar: you asked me to install pastebin, and, i was unable to get it to install until i did a -f install first.
[02:33] <nicknack2> i shall post it again, once i install it. -f just finihsed
[02:34] <Beldar> nicknack2, I doubt I can help, with the info I have now, others may be able to though.
[02:34] <Beldar> I would if I felt I could
[02:35] <nicknack2> grr. this schools network is a nightmare. now it wont give me an ip
[02:35] <Beldar> nicknack2, If it were me I would install another minimal desktop like lxde so that you have one to work from if you need a gui X
[02:36] <imeon> yes like xubuntu or lubuntu
[02:37] <nicknack2> ill install fluxbox if need be, the system just doesn't boot up pantheon
[02:37] <nicknack2> i even tried reinstall pantheon
[02:38] <nicknack2> let me get fluxbox going so i can paste bin everything
[02:38] <nicknack2> never mind. pantheon force loads itself.
[02:38] <imeon> nicknack2 what is your PC P4?
[02:38] <Beldar> nicknack2, Cool that makes sense so you can communicate with the channel easily.
[02:39] <imeon> i have P4 2ghz with 2gig of RAM and i use lubuntu and i do everything fast
[02:40] <imeon> sorry a P4 3ghz
[02:40] <SetiAmon> hey i have a weird issue my monitor keeps turning off after about ten minutes or so but i have all power saving features turned off!
[02:41] <imeon> SetiAmon look your screensaver option
[02:43] <nicknack2> imeon:no im running an i7 lol
[02:44] <imeon> hahaha
[02:44] <imeon> go with ubuntu
[02:44] <imeon> is very stable
[02:45] <Beldar> SetiAmon, 12.04?
[02:45] <jrib> is anyone aware of actively developed eye tracking software for linux (that allows one to control the mouse pointer for example)
[02:46] <Beldar> jrib, You would need something to read your eye at the least.
[02:46] <jrib> Beldar: sure, using a webcam
[02:47] <Beldar> jrib, heh I don;t think so, nice dream though.
[02:47] <jrib> Beldar: see opengazer and gnome-mousetrap.  They're just not actively developed
[02:47] <Beldar> get some google glasses
[02:47] <Beldar> I will pass but thanks
[02:47] <somsip> jrib: http://is.gd/jUGdDU
[02:48] <imeon> i know nothing in that kind of eye capting
[02:48] <imeon> tracking
[02:48] <jrib> somsip: thanks, I think there's one in there that shows promise
[02:49] <pox> Hey chaps, I just got a weird error.  I was running a bunch of flash, display froze so I manually rebooted.  When I tried to login it I entered my password and instead of going to desktop it bumped me back at the login screen.
[02:49] <somsip> jrib: Lots of options. I cant vouch for any of them though
[02:49] <pox> I fixed the problem by removing /.Xauthority then restarting.  Can someone explain to me what the hell happened?
[02:50] <imeon> I search someone for broke the password that have create in a small program, if someone interested contact me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>thanks!!
[02:51] <nicknack2> the people at elementary are not very responsive.
[02:51] <nicknack2> sweet lord, what have i done. lol
[02:52] <nicknack2> someone how i think this is an xorg related issue
[02:52] <pox> I just had one of those too, nick.
[02:53] <pox> I dunno what your issue is though.
[02:53] <ResQue> how can i get the original /etc/grub.d and /etc/defaults/grub files?
[02:53] <deezed> ResQue: maybe boot-repair? guys?
[02:53] <buu> ResQue: Look in the.deb?
[02:54] <ResQue> i thought if i installed the grub2 and grub2-common package i would get them back, but that didnt owrk
[02:55] <nicknack2> is there a way to force reinstall the package, all of it, from scratch?
[02:55] <deezed> ResQue: what exactly did you do?
[02:55] <ResQue> deezed: i deleted them
[02:55] <ResQue> deezed: by them i mean the folder /etc/grub.d/* and /etc/defaults/grub
[02:56] <Beldar> ResQue, You trying to reinstall from the desktop or a live cd?
[02:56] <imeon> nicknack2 you have to erase the package first
[02:56] <deezed> you mean that you were running bash as root and deleted them? why?
[02:56] <ResQue> Beldar: from the desktop
[02:57] <ResQue> i thought the grub config files would be in the grub2 package, am i wrong?
[02:57] <imeon> ResQue or with a usb bootable
[02:58] <Beldar> ResQue, sudo apt-get purge grub grub-common grub-pc && sudo apt-get install grub-common grub-pc
[02:58] <ResQue> imeon: i dont understand the question
[02:59] <deezed> ResQue: did you try to run a 'dpkg-reconfigure -a' ?
[02:59] <imeon> sorry that was a complement of Beldar say
[03:00] <lilred> hey guys, I enabled OpenVPN tunneling on my server and now it won't answer, which raises all kinds of questions
[03:00] <lilred> the server is an OpenVPN client
[03:00] <ResQue> deezed: now i will try that now
[03:00] <lilred> does enabling OpenVPN client on a device make it unresponsive to SSH via its non-VPN address?
[03:01] <buu> lilred: Its possible!
[03:01] <buu> lilred: Depends on what the vpn server tells its routing table to do
[03:01] <nicknack2> i've given up. idk what else i can possibly do to fix this thing.
[03:02] <lilred> I wonder if there is a way to enable OpenVPN client without sacrificing local access
[03:03] <ResQue> Beldar: thank you, your method worked. i think the first time i tried to remove i used --purge and not just purge would this have done something different?
[03:03] <Beldar> nicknack2, I would use ubuntu, I mean like lubuntu then set it up, more support in the end.
[03:03] <deezed> lilred: like using vpn just for some tasks?
[03:03] <Beldar> ResQue, I never use --purge so not really sure
[03:04] <ResQue> Beldar: ok, thanks for the help
[03:04] <lilred> deezed: exact;y!
[03:04] <Beldar> ResQue, No problem.
[03:04] <deezed> lilred: ok, like what?
[03:04] <nicknack2> Beldar:i dont have anything that i can use to install it!
[03:04] <ResQue> deezed: problem solved, i used Beldar apt-get purge idea. thanks for the time
[03:04] <lilred> deezed: Ideally I'd want the VPN to be available through some virtual network device that I can manually tell my programs to connect to
[03:04] <lilred> torrent client, mainly.
[03:04] <Beldar> nicknack2, You said you used a minimal 13.10.
[03:04] <deezed> ResQue: good!! np
[03:05] <nicknack2> i did, but odn thave anything that i can reinstall the system with. and pantheon forces itself to load osmehow
[03:05] <deezed> lilred: uhm, I think you can write a script for that
[03:05] <nicknack2> idk how
[03:05] <Beldar> nicknack2, mini is a net install you can load whatever desktop and on servers etc....
[03:05] <Beldar> or*
[03:06] <nicknack2> yes i know that, however, i dont have a flash drive or cd to burn it and go through a reinstall
[03:06] <lilred> deezed: any idea what I should put in that script? :)
[03:06] <Beldar> nicknack2, Ah, how did you do it this time?
[03:06] <nicknack2> i was at home. now im at school
[03:06] <nicknack2> i was suppose to ge ta paper going, but that didn't work
[03:06] <deezed> lilred: you could tell it that the torrent program is a variable
[03:06] <Beldar> nicknack2, If you have  grub boot you can load the iso to it.
[03:06] <deezed> lilred: and if that variable is running; then use vpn; done
[03:07] <deezed> lilred: else; dont use it
[03:07] <deezed> done
[03:07] <deezed> fi
[03:07] <lilred> don't you think there's a way to use VPN concurrently with my other stuff?
[03:07] <Beldar> nicknack2, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[03:08] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | nicknack2 remove the ppa and install a desktop
[03:09] <deezed> lilred: try check it up here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1820884.html
[03:11] <nicknack2> Beldar:i shall try to purge it out
[03:13] <deezed> lilred: I was reading some other forums and people said that you could run a virtual machine exclusively for this torrent with vpn... i dont know if its the only way, but its one of them at least
[03:13] <nicknack2> lets hope it doesn't force elementary on me again
[03:13] <lilred> deezed: oh well, thanks!
[03:13] <nicknack2> still trying to load elementary
[03:13] <deezed> lilred: you'r welcome
[03:14] <Beldar> nicknack2, If this was a mini 13.10 install and you remove the ppa's it should set you to the base install ready for a desktop, if the base is all there.
[03:14] <nicknack2> it is a minimal, but its still forcing elementary to install
[03:14] <Beldar> nicknack2, You gotta use the ppa-purge though.
[03:14] <nicknack2> not install, sorry
[03:14] <nicknack2> i did use ppa-purge!
[03:18] <nicknack2> can i setup ubuntu minimal with wpa_supplicant?
[03:21] <Beldar> nicknack2, probably, I have just run it with ethernet though, I am seeing info on the web that suggests you can.
[03:22] <Beldar> nicknack2, Basically the base install from the mini is the server install if that helps.
[03:22] <xangua> Beldar: no, it's not
[03:23] <Beldar> xangua, I used the term basically not exactly
[03:24] <Beldar> xangua, You are welcome to help the user.
[03:24] <xangua> just came
[03:25] <Beldar> xangua, A messed up pantheon ppa install from a ppa, using a minimal 13.10 is the decription.
[03:26] <Beldar> xangua, Wants a to  setup ubuntu minimal with wpa_supplicant, I gave them them the iso from grub boot, so not sure if this is for the actual install or in lieu of running a new iso load.
[03:27] <Beldar> I'm not really a cli master is all, I use a desktop always
[03:29] <Beldar> nicknack2, Do you have wifi with the minimal install, it seems you don't?
[03:29] <imeon> nicknack if you can with school network try to burn on cd lubuntu installer
[03:29] <imeon> first and after create a usb ubuntu 13.10 installer
[03:29] <imeon> on a usb key
[03:30] <Beldar> no cd or usb I believe
[03:31] <imeon> :-(
[03:34] <imeon> interesting this ubuntu channel
[03:34] <imeon> i have pass good moment
[03:35] <nicknack2> Beldar:i have wifi now. i got it up. i know how ot work it with wpa_supplicant. im wonder if the minimal install has wpa_supplicant so i can set it up
[03:35] <imeon> i still continue programming
[03:36] <deezed> imeon: cool, I'm also trying to do so
[03:37] <PhatTony> What are common linux commands
[03:38] <Beldar> PhatTony, sudo get a manual
[03:38] <nicknack2> man EVERYTHING
[03:39] <xangua> !terminal | PhatTony
[03:44] <yjw> hello
[03:46] <PhatTony> #list
[03:49] <naryfa> 		hi
[03:50] <deezed> naryfa: hello
[03:50] <cfhowlett> deezed, greetigns
[03:51] <deezed> cfhowlett: hey, hows going?
[03:52] <cfhowlett> deezed, great.   what's your ubuntu issue?
[03:52] <ccmonster> hey, is this where I should go to ask about ubuntu partitino/installation
[03:53] <cfhowlett> ccmonster, yes.  ask away.
[03:53] <deezed> cfhowlett: I actually dont have one.. is just that naryfa has said hi, and I said hello! =) maybe he has one
[03:53] <ccmonster> got an ssd and a 2TB hdd.
[03:53] <ccmonster> I want to install everything but home and the large bin dirs to the ssd.
[03:53] <naryfa> nope, I came here with hope I'll help somebody lol
[03:53] <ccmonster> i am currently in the live usb right now
[03:54] <Beldar> ccmonster, this a dual boot and if so with what and it's release?
[03:54] <ccmonster> it's nothing at the moment, but will be Windows, not sure if I will go windows 8. More likely Win7
[03:55] <Beldar> ccmonster, This a uefi computer, a custom, maily do you have gpt partitioning?
[03:55] <Beldar> mainly*
[03:56] <ccmonster> it's custom buit. Not sure about uefi, and what is GPT partitioning
[03:56] <Beldar> ccmonster, just a partitioning schema with a specific partiton table.
[03:57] <ccmonster> ok
[03:57] <ccmonster> im down to use whatever is suggested
[03:57] <Beldar> ccmonster, Is the live seeing the HD and any partitions if there are any?
[03:57] <Beldar> HD and ssd
[03:58] <ccmonster> the live is seeing the ssd, a different HD (dying, which is why this started in teh first place), and the 2TB drive actually isn't in there at the moment
[03:59] <Beldar> ccmonster, how big is the ssd?
[03:59] <ccmonster> Beldar: 60GB
[04:00] <Beldar> ccmonster, Cool, generally if you have windows you want it first on a disc, you plan on it being on the ssd or the 2 tb HD?
[04:01] <yes1> Hi all. I'm having a curious network issue, maybe someone can help. When I ping most servers, everything seems fine; no packet loss, good ping reply. But when I use any other services from the same servers, e.g. browse, then I lag from ~200ms to ~2000ms, with a transient packet loss of ~30%. Any idea?
[04:03] <ccmonster> i would say the HD, Beldar
[04:03] <deezed> yes1: maybe you are running others process that are using internet as well?
[04:03] <ccmonster> idk, maybe it makes sense to have the SSD as well, IDK
[04:03] <Beldar> ccmonster, Cool, you can just have ubuntu install to the ssd, without partitioning it, the install will do it and make a swap.
[04:04] <Beldar> ccmonster, YOU could have windows and ubuntu on the ssd.
[04:04] <yes1> deezed: hmm, I haven't checked that.
[04:04] <ccmonster> any snags with doing that Beldar
[04:04] <yes1> I will look into this. Thanks
[04:05] <deezed> yes1:  maybe a pstree or even a ps aux can help you with that
[04:05] <yes1> deezed: I'm doing it right now..
[04:05] <deezed> okok
[04:06] <Beldar> ccmonster, Windows would need two partitions a boot and C, you can just make a ntfa filling up the first part with gparted and have ubuntu install along side in the rest unallocated, so that when you do the windiws install it would be the first partitions.
[04:06] <Beldar> ntfs*
[04:07] <Beldar> ccmonster, Windows can with a custom install not have the boot partiton if you just load it to the pre made ntfs.
[04:09] <Beldar> ccmonster, If any of this is confusing, that is okay, just ask questions and we can walk you through it. ;)
[04:10] <yes1> deezed: so far, I'm averaging 5kbit/sec from my wlan. That's about it. The problem has started a few days ago. I've tested from another computer under the same connection, and the problem is similar. Anyhow, I might have to call the ISP, but I think they're "throttling" my data somehow
[04:10] <deezed> yes1: they always do that
[04:11] <ccmonster> ok, so as a precaution, create a ntfs partition on the ssd
[04:11] <ccmonster> at the beginning
[04:11] <deezed> yes1: suddenly, when you are expecting a 10mb connection, you realize its actually 5mb that you are dealing with
[04:12] <yes1> deezed: Yeah, I went from 1.2 meg/sec to 12k/sec now...
[04:12] <ccmonster> Beldar: how do i set up the gpt
[04:12] <ccmonster> when i go to format its asking for primary and logical etc in the live usb
[04:12] <deezed> yes1: lol thats so radical.
[04:12] <yes1> deezed: thanks for your help. pstree did show a curious process though. I'll look into that
[04:12] <ccmonster> which isn't a feature of gpt, from what I read
[04:13] <Payton> How do I know what partition is an ubuntu partition?
[04:13] <deezed> yes1: ok no problem
[04:13] <Beldar> ccmonster, Not sure there I don't use gpt, I was coming from a msdos setup as it seemed the ssd was msdos.
[04:13] <Payton> I can't find my ubuntu partition in partition manager xD
[04:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Payton: Disks (gnome-disks) will tell you
[04:13] <Payton> SonikkuAmerica: ?
[04:14] <Beldar> ccmonster, If you made this computer and it is new enough it probably has a uefi setup, but that is out of my area as well.
[04:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Payton: Open "Disks" from the Unity dash
[04:15] <ccmonster> i made this computer a few years ago
[04:15] <ccmonster> so, possibly not.
[04:15] <Payton> SonikkuAmerica: I'm trying to find my ubuntu partition in windows..
[04:15] <Payton> SonikkuAmerica: So I can remove it from my other PC
[04:15] <Payton> SonikkuAmerica: So I can have 1 win8 and 1 ubuntu :)
[04:15] <SonikkuAmerica> Payton: Oh... Windows wouldn't be able to tell you, because it can't read Ubuntu's default filesystem (ext4) out of the box.
[04:16] <Beldar> ccmonster, Some like gpt, it seems to have some advantages, I have not used it so I'm a msdos user primarily as far as partition tables and partitions.
[04:16] <Payton> SonikkuAmerica: Exactly, how can I find the ubuntu partiton? is there any program>
[04:16] <Payton> ?
[04:17] <deezed> Payton: you can run in ubuntu the command 'df'
[04:17] <ccmonster> ok, so if i got traditional
[04:17] <ccmonster> i just format it as a logical parition
[04:17] <ccmonster> it (ssd)
[04:17] <Payton> deezed: What would that do?
[04:18] <deezed> list your partition specifications
[04:18] <Beldar> ccmonster, A logical is inside a extended, if you want windows on there put a ntfs big enough for it and install ubuntu in the rest of the space.
[04:18] <Payton> deezed: So then I can go back and erase the ubuntu partition on windows?
[04:18] <ccmonster> i cannot choose ntfs from the live usb in installation type
[04:19] <ccmonster> let me open gparted
[04:19] <deezed> Payton: I think so, but the better thing to do is to erase it from one ubuntu itself
[04:19] <Beldar> Payton, YOU stated you would never remove linux yesterday after I spent a long time showing you how per your request.
[04:19] <Payton> deezed: Would It remove the GRUB menu too?
[04:19] <Payton> Beldar: I have two PC's xD
[04:19] <Payton> Beldar: I want one ubuntu one win8
[04:20] <Payton> Beldar: For editing :P
[04:20] <Beldar> Payton, you were lying yesterday basically I would not believe a word you say.
[04:20] <Payton> Beldar: Okai
[04:20] <Payton> Beldar: End of convo?
[04:20] <deezed> ah, you want to remove completly your ubuntu from this pc?
[04:20] <Payton> deezed: Yes
[04:21] <deezed> so start your pc from a live cd or usb ubuntu
[04:22] <Payton> deezed: Ok
[04:22] <deezed> and format everything you have on the ubuntu partitions
[04:22] <deezed> which you will never see from windows
[04:22] <Payton> deezed: How would I do that?
[04:23] <al_la> Hey all, looking for help.  I am on 13.04, running upgrade tool for 13.10.  It's completed the steps 'preparing to upgrade' 'setting new software channels' 'getting new packages' and is working on 'installing the upgrades', but in the terminal below it says (after 'setting up ... packages') '... downloading ... flashplugin ..'.  While doing this additional downloading, I believe my internet died, and now that it is back, the window is still s
[04:23] <al_la> itting there.  No way to cancel.  Thoughts?
[04:23] <Payton> al_la: Kill the proccess
[04:23] <Payton> al_la: :P
[04:23] <Payton> argh i forgot the command for killing a process
[04:24] <Payton> it eould probably mess it up though...
[04:24] <Beldar> al_la, move the window around and make sure no popups are there to start with
[04:24] <deezed> Payton: I dont think he has to kill anything
[04:24] <Payton> Beldar Comes to the rescue!
[04:25] <deezed> if Beldar is right
[04:25] <al_la> No pop-up windows hidden behind it.  Window is responsive (not hanged), but the command it's executing seems to have been hanged.
[04:25] <waterloo2005> hi , why localhost:631 always says my printer status is Paused - "Unplugged or turned off" when I plug my usb printer ? thanks
[04:26] <Payton> deezed: How would I format everything on ubuntu so it uninstalls ubuntu on this PC?
[04:26] <deezed> anyway the command to kill the process is killall 'process'
[04:26] <Beldar> al_la, Are you backed up per chance stopping the upgrade portion can be problematic at times.
[04:26] <al_la> I feel like there's a lot of danger in killing the upgrader halfway through an upgrade...
[04:26] <deezed> Payton: you will format from a live cd, not from your ubuntu installed
[04:27] <malt> why does XDCC SEND ppppppppppppp crash my other router on gamesurge person was pming me that on xchat with ubuntu
[04:27] <al_la> Beldar: Yeah, my files are backed up .. it's the installation I'd like to save :(
[04:27] <Payton> deezed: Live CD? I don't have a CD :P
[04:27] <deezed> Payton: and remember to format it on nfts
[04:27] <deezed> Payton: you can use a usb stick
[04:27] <Beldar> al_la, If you stop it run in the terminal sudo apt-get -f install it may finish it.
[04:29] <deezed> al_la: and remember also that maybe it can be running from behind, and killing it might mess somethings up
[04:29] <Beldar> al_la, It may be that it will not restart and you would reboot and run that from a tty or recovery terminal.
[04:30] <al_la> Beldar: the distribution upgrade tool uses apt-get, or do you suggest that only to fix the package it's on now?
[04:30] <Beldar> could rather than would, lets get som other opinions though al_la
[04:30] <deezed> al_la: yes, I would not restart it before set the things up
[04:30] <nicknack> okay, i got mini iso on a usb, and its installing.
[04:30] <nicknack> i was wondering if i can get wpa_supplicant to work
[04:31] <nicknack> the network here is kinda weird
[04:32] <nicknack> anyone?
[04:32] <deezed> al_la: have you managed to close the window?
[04:32] <deezed> nicknack: whats the problem with network?
[04:33] <nicknack> well, i have to install from the net, however, the network here uses wpa-epa or something
[04:33] <nicknack> so i have to use wpa_supplicant.
[04:33] <al_la> deezed: I see no way to close other than killing the process, so stil open
[04:33] <deezed> nicknack: but the net is already running ornot?
[04:33] <al_la> I wonder what a sudo do-release-upgrade from terminal would do...
[04:34] <ccmonster> why wont the gparted stop scanning and actually nshow me something
[04:34] <nicknack> deezed:no there is no network at the moment.
[04:34] <Payton> al_la: Do sudo apt-get update next time :P
[04:34] <al_la> Payton: I was updated and upgraded when I started :/
[04:34] <deezed> al_la: ok, so try it... maybe if you kill it now, and just try to run the same command with apt-get that you used before, just maybe, it will start from the point it has stopped
[04:35] <Payton> deezed: It will skip over the already installed files :P
[04:35] <deezed> al_la: yes, the point is not to update again, 'coz you said it already did, right? you just have to upgrade it again
[04:35] <kcin> Hi
[04:35] <nicknack> is ther ea way that i can use wpa_suppliant to start hte net
[04:36] <Payton> kcin: Hi
[04:36] <deezed> Payton: the only way that windows will read the other partition is formating it
[04:36] <kcin> I'm adding a drive to a vm for nfs mounting but I don't know what the "default" partition type is
[04:36] <Beldar> ccmonster, number of possibilities, what all is on the computer drive wise right now?
[04:36] <deezed> Payton: so if you dont want to loose any data its better to backup
[04:36] <deezed> rsync is a good tool btw
[04:37] <deezed> kcin: which os? ubuntu right?
[04:37] <ccmonster_> Beldar: nothing
[04:37] <ccmonster_> it's the blank ssd, and a blank 2TB hd
[04:38] <al_la> Payton,deezed: giving up for the night I think :) thanks for the info
[04:38] <kcin> ya ubuntu
[04:38] <kcin> though I would hope it applies to most linuxes
[04:39] <Beldar> ccmonster_, A bland ssd and 2 TB, is not nothing, you mentioned a big HD broken is it this one?
[04:39] <Beldar> blank*
[04:39] <Payton> Dang, I need a windows recovery disc..
[04:39] <Payton> D:
[04:39] <Payton> I don't have a CD
[04:39] <deezed> kcin: yes! So if I understood right your question, a default partition to linux would be ext4 or ext3 or ext2
[04:40] <ccmonster_> no the broken one is not connected
[04:40] <deezed> it seems that ext4 is better
[04:40] <Beldar> ccmonster_, Is the ssd and the 2 TB brand new?
[04:40] <kcin> k... know the code off hand?
[04:40] <ccmonster_> they are both a year old, but were in boxes
[04:41] <Mongo44> How do you show everything in the Home folder?
[04:41] <Beldar> ccmonster_, Might not have partition tables, how long has or did gparted run, where are you at as for as running gparted right now?
[04:41] <ccmonster_> there was no partition
[04:42] <Beldar> Mongo44ctrl-h
[04:42] <ccmonster_> figured that wouldn't be a problem
[04:42] <deezed> MobGod: in bash it would be ll, or ls -lah
[04:42] <Beldar> ccmonster_, right but that does not answer my question nor reference partition table.
[04:42] <deezed> or just ls -lh
[04:42] <ccmonster_> its just runing
[04:42] <nicknack> im trying to get wpa_supplicant going, except when i set eap=PEAP it fails
[04:42] <ccmonster_> showing 'scanning all devices' in the status bar on the bottom
[04:43] <nicknack> says its incorrect
[04:43] <deezed> kcin: what?
[04:43] <Beldar> ccmonster_, how long now has it been running?
[04:43] <ccmonster_> this time, about 2 minutes.
[04:43] <ccmonster_> it ran last time for 5+
[04:43] <Payton> Is it possible to remove linux partitions without a recovery disc?
[04:44] <Payton> And uninstall ubuntu
[04:45] <deezed> Payton: would you be mad with me if I give you this advice: dont uninstal linux. Uninstal windows.
[04:45] <Beldar> ccmonster_, I would assume that gparted even on a 2 TB hd, even if it had no partition table finish by now, notice I said assume. If it were me I would stop gparted and close it and unplug the big HD and try again with gparted.
[04:45] <nicknack> any help?
[04:45] <Payton> deezed: Remember, I have two PC's one with ubuntu as a main OS and this one that I want running just win8
[04:46] <ccmonster_> ok, unplugged the big hdd, so now it's just the ssd
[04:46] <deezed> nicknack: but you are trying to start a PEAP connection?
[04:46] <ccmonster_> let's see what happens
[04:46] <nicknack> yes
[04:47] <Blaster> hello I booted from a live CD so I could allocate more space to my /dev/sda1 partition.  I see that I have 13 gigs of unallocated space, but when I go to resize /dev/sda1 the maximum size doesn't include the unallocated space
[04:47] <kcin> well I don't see ext4 in the list under fdisk.... I kinda thought it was ext somthing but I don't see any ext listed
[04:47] <Mongo44> How do you show more in the Home folder?
[04:47] <deezed> yes, Payton, thats what I'm saying. Instead of trying a win8, which is not free and so "spy", you should try another distro on this other machine. like debian, or triskel, which is ubuntu based, or even Parabola, or fedora, I dont know
[04:48] <deezed> Mongo44: open terminal, and digit: ls -lah
[04:48] <deezed> enter
[04:48] <nicknack> deezed: yes i want to start peap. otherwise, the connection wont work
[04:48] <Payton> deezed: I'm using dual boot so I have win8 and ubuntu xD
[04:48] <jerry669> http://hotgirlsinyogapantss.blogspot.com/2013/12/pulling-them-up.html
[04:48] <Payton> deezed: I want this one without ubuntu so I have one PC with ubuntu and one With win8
[04:48] <deezed> nicknack: oh, so you will have to edit your wpa_supplicant script to put your certificate and your right user/pass
[04:49] <nicknack> deezed:it looks likeit looks like there is another connection.
[04:49] <nicknack> idkw hats running
[04:49] <deezed> Payton: lol, so you know what is the price for having just windows 8? formating...
[04:49] <deezed> =/
[04:49] <nicknack> how can i kill any connection in the minimal install
[04:50] <Payton> deezed: How do I format xD
[04:50] <deezed> Payton: I just said: go to a live usb and format with gparted
[04:50] <Beldar> Blaster, open gparted and take a screenshot of it and imagebin it.
[04:51] <nicknack> deezed:the info is correct
[04:51] <nicknack> however, peap seems to not work
[04:51] <Payton> deezed: Uninstalling ubuntu... from ubuntu? ... wut
[04:52] <deezed> nicknack: uhm, I dont know what can it be.. maybe if you pastebin the logs?
[04:52] <Blaster> Beldar: http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=15960
[04:52] <deezed> Payton: yes, kind of
[04:52] <deezed> Payton: did you understand that its not from your own ubuntu? but a live cd
[04:52] <Mongo44> I mean in the My Computer equivalent.
[04:53] <Payton> deezed: I'm confused, I need someone to show me xD
[04:53] <kcin> oh I get it
[04:53] <kcin> ext4 is the format type
[04:53] <Beldar> Blaster, You have an extended sda2 right after sda1, so sda1 can't move without dealing with sda2.
[04:53] <kcin> what's the partition type though... dos?
[04:54] <nicknack> its saying the reaosn it d/c is reason 3
[04:54] <nicknack> usually that means there is another connection, right?
[04:54] <Blaster> Beldar:  Yeah, I read that.  How do I deal with it?
[04:54] <deezed> kcin: yes, ext4..
[04:54] <deezed> Payton: are you kidding?
[04:54] <Payton> deezed: Nope
[04:54] <Payton> deezed: I'm new to partitioning
[04:54] <Beldar> Blaster, You can delete it or move it to the right, did it have a swap in it?
[04:54] <nicknack> unless im doing something wrong, eap=PEAP right?
[04:55] <deezed> Payton: ok, so how did you installed ubuntu?
[04:55] <Blaster> Beldar:  Yes it does, but I don't see any options in GParted for moving it.  It appears locked
[04:55] <deezed> nicknack: actually PEAP means Protected eap
[04:55] <Payton> deezed: I got Beldar To help xD
[04:55] <deezed> I think
[04:55] <kcin> so where does a disk tell you it's format type? lwhw -C disk seems to say only partition type
[04:55] <nicknack> deezed:but why wont it run?
[04:55] <nicknack> it says that eap=PEAP could nt parse or w/e
[04:56] <nicknack> username and id are correct, triple checked
[04:56] <Mongo44> What is the key combo to show more in the file system?
[04:56] <deezed> nicknack: is your certificate right?
[04:56] <Blaster> Beldar: My extended partition says "Busy (At least one logical partition is mounted)"
[04:56] <nicknack> im using the same config as before
[04:56] <nicknack> it worked fine then
[04:56] <Beldar> Blaster, You need to unmount the sda2 right click it right on the edge of then green outline and unmount.
[04:56] <Beldar> the*
[04:56] <deezed> kcin: maybe a fdisk -l
[04:57] <Blaster> Beldar:  It doesn't let me
[04:57] <Blaster> All the right click options are grayed out
[04:57] <kcin> that's the known partition types & what got me confused in the 1st place
[04:57] <kcin> it lists things like hfs & stuff
[04:57] <Blaster> Beldar:  This is a VM inside VBox, that might make a difference
[04:57] <Payton> deezed: Ok lets make this easier
[04:57] <Beldar> Blaster, It looks like there is a swap in there but I see no swap indicated in the left panel, and I know nothing about a vm.
[04:58] <Payton> deezed: Could I make my PC boot up a VirtualBox VM from startup?
[04:58] <Payton> xD
[04:58] <Beldar> er vlm
[04:58] <deezed> Payton: why?
[04:58] <Blaster> Beldar:  I found this article about it http://www.rootusers.com/use-gparted-to-increase-disk-size-of-a-linux-native-partition/
[04:58] <nicknack> failed to parse PEAP
[04:58] <deezed> oh, I got it why.. you installed it from a vm
[04:58] <nicknack> man, im so behind on my final, im royally FAKED
[04:58] <Payton> deezed: So I don't have to use all of my RAM on windows and ubuntu, just ubuntu
[04:59] <deezed> Payton: do you have a free usb to use there?
[04:59] <Payton> deezed: Free USB? you mean a USB with free space?
[04:59] <nicknack> says unknown eap method peap you may need to add support for this eap method during wpa build time ocnfiguration
[05:00] <deezed> Payton: no, I mean usb that you can format
[05:00] <Ben64> nicknack: what are you trying to do
[05:00] <Payton> deezed: I  have no clue..
[05:00] <deezed> Payton: what?
[05:00] <Beldar> Blaster, are you right clicking on either the brownish red inside the sda or on the green box for the unmount, try both.
[05:00] <Payton> deezed: I don't know..
[05:00] <Beldar> sda2*
[05:00] <nicknack> how do i get eap support for wpa_supplicant!?
[05:01] <deezed> Payton: ok, so another way
[05:01] <Blaster> Beldar:  I tried both.  The only enabled options are Swapoff, Manage Flags, and Information.
[05:01] <deezed> Payton: you still have your ubuntu iso right?
[05:01] <somsip> nicknack: I think you had the same error as this? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=72071
[05:02] <Payton> deezed: Yes, on my USB
[05:02] <nicknack> can someone please just tell me how to get this thing working. please!?
[05:02] <deezed> lol, ok
[05:02] <Ben64> nicknack: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man5/wpa_supplicant.conf.5.html
[05:02] <deezed> so go on Virtual Box, start an ubuntu from there
[05:02] <Payton> deezed: Already loaded
[05:02] <deezed> and see if you can format your ubuntu partition from there
[05:02] <Beldar> Blaster, try the swap off, The strange part is that there should be a swap partiiton notated in the lower list, I see just a extended, and no operations pending.
[05:03] <deezed> which means, open gparted
[05:03] <deezed> or partition manager
[05:03] <nicknack> somsip:i am using password instead of phrase
[05:03] <deezed> (from ubuntu)
[05:03] <Blaster> What does swapoff do?
[05:03] <nicknack> Ben64:my config is correc,t im sure of it but PEAP is not build in support it seems
[05:03] <somsip> nicknack: ok
[05:03] <Blaster> Beldar ^
[05:03] <nicknack> somsip: do you know how to get PEAP support?
[05:04] <Beldar> Blaster, turns the swap off we want to see that key disappear in the list below
[05:04] <osubuntu> Ubuntu release upgrade won't work because of the bleeding edge PPAs, is it correct?
[05:04] <Payton> deezed: No, I want virtualBox to start ubuntu on startup xD and if I want to change back to win8 on start then i can change using f12
[05:04] <Beldar> osubuntu, You need to turn them off and maybe use a ppa-purge to remove to upgrade at times.
[05:04] <Blaster> Beldar: ok yeah it worked, now I have the option to Delete the linux-swap
[05:05] <osubuntu> Is ppa-purge also 3rd party software or in custom PPA?
[05:05] <somsip> nicknack: no, I don't.
[05:05] <Beldar> Blaster, Cool go for it, and leave a space at the end of the sda1 resize for a swap if needed, do the delete and resize in separate runs.
[05:05] <xangua> osubuntu: it will work, but it is recomended not to use third party repositories
[05:05] <nicknack> does anyone know how to get peap support? i cant connect to the net without it
[05:06] <deezed> Payton: sorry, I dont get you. do you want to take ubuntu off or not?
[05:06] <santhosh> haihaihai
[05:06] <Blaster> Beldar:  Not sure what to do from here... http://www.rootusers.com/use-gparted-to-increase-disk-size-of-a-linux-native-partition/
[05:07] <Blaster> Whoops I mean
[05:07] <Blaster> http://imgur.com/k8x9yUD
[05:07] <santhosh> iam installing ltsp on ubuntu but in application server and client get same ip
[05:08] <Beldar> Blaster, delete the extended now for some reason that swap was not showing.
[05:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Blaster: (Hit the check mark up top)
[05:08] <Beldar> Blaster, You have to hit the green arrow to make it run .
[05:09] <Beldar> not arrow but check yeah
[05:09] <Payton> deezed: I did before, not knowing that I need the win8 disc that didn't come with my win8 pc xD
[05:09] <Payton> deezed: Now I want VBox to start up ubuntu on PC startup
[05:09] <nicknack> can someone please tell me how to get peap support for the minmal install of ubuntu. otherwise, i cant install the system, nor, finish this final
[05:10] <Blaster> Beldar: how much space should I leave for the extended partition?
[05:10] <deezed> sorry Payton, I wish I could help you, but given you history I can't anymore.. ask anyone else
[05:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Beldar: ☑ :)
[05:10] <Beldar> Blaster, enough to have a swap equal to the ram you have for the OS.
[05:10] <nick4me> nicknack: What have you tried so far?
[05:11] <Blaster> Beldar: so the swap stores RAM data mostly?
[05:12] <Beldar> Blaster, swap does multiple things, it allows hibernate if equal or slightly larger than the ram amount, and is used when the ram gets to a certain point of use.
[05:12] <Payton> Blaster: Swap is backup RAM, RAM doesn't exactly get used up but if so many processes use up your RAM, your system will go into backup mode or Use Swap.
[05:13] <Blaster> Cool
[05:13] <Payton> RAM=Random access memory
[05:13] <Beldar> Blaster,  I could not give you a definite total use of swap is all, I doubt few here could.
[05:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !swap
[05:13] <Blaster> So here's what I have now ... http://imgur.com/f88mF58  - do I need to allocate the unallocated?
[05:14] <Ben64> xvee: peap is in my ubuntu, what are you running?
[05:14] <Beldar> Blaster, Remove the extended run and just do the resize first.
[05:15] <osubuntu> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade. so this can be solved by ppa-purge ?
[05:15] <Beldar> Blaster, You have to be careful with running multiple things in a row with gparted.
[05:15] <Blaster> oh yeah, why's that?
[05:15] <xvee> guys, please. just help me get this internet up, and i wont bug you. pinkie promise!
[05:15] <Blaster> I will run the grow operation by itself
[05:16] <osubuntu> Alt+SysRq+H does nothing?
[05:16] <osubuntu> it is supposed to show help messages :(
[05:16] <Beldar> Blaster, gparted has a limited measurement of sizes on a hd is all.
[05:16] <Blaster> oh ok
[05:16] <Blaster> so I have this 1GB unallocated.  If I allocate it to an extended drive, it still says unallocated below it
[05:16] <Blaster> do I have to allocate it twice, like it was before?
[05:17] <deezed> bye guys
[05:17] <xvee> can someone please just help me get PEAP to work on the minimal version of ubuntu
[05:18] <Beldar> Blaster, run the resize and be sure you still have 1 gig unallocated. The swap inside of it you make will be smaller, and again may be limited to gparteds abilty to read sizes.
[05:18] <Beldar> Blaster, I'm not sure you need an extended for a swap either
[05:19] <Ben64> xvee: peap is in my ubuntu, what are you running?
[05:19] <Blaster> Beldar:  This is how it originally looked, http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=15960, and this is how it looks now, http://imgur.com/uZVHABq - does it look correct?
[05:19] <xvee> Ben64:im on ubuntu minmal, during the install stage
[05:19] <xvee> however, because my school network requires it, i cant connect to the network
[05:19] <xvee> and with that, cant install anything
[05:20] <Beldar> Blaster, remove the extended making process and resize first do not run both.
[05:20] <Blaster> ok
[05:21] <xvee> Ben64:what can i do to get that booger working
[05:21] <Blaster> do I need a logical drive as a child to my extended partition?
[05:22] <Beldar> Blaster, a logical is what is inside an extended. As far as what can be put on that space as of now you have not exceeded the 3 primaries, needing a extended for more than one additional logicals.
[05:23] <Helasraizam> I have a desktop!  But nothing else.  No icons, no windows--even ctrl+alt+T doesn't bring anything up.  How do I fix Ubuntu 13.10 so that I have a desktop environment?  (my background shows perfectly)
[05:23] <Blaster> Beldar:  Well, it looks like it worked.  Thanks for your help.
[05:24] <xvee> i guess its not possible, then....
[05:25] <Guest93588> How do I find alternative group chats?
[05:25] <xangua> !alis | Guest93588
[05:26] <Intii> Hi all I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my PC but the installer keeps hanging. I've tried the LiveCD version and it hangs on the screen where I can choose to either Try Ubuntu or Install it and the net install version right when it starts detecting disks. How can I fix this?
[05:27] <ObrienDave> Intii, which version are you trying to install?
[05:27] <Intii> net isntall is 13.10 and livecd is 13.04 both 64-bit
[05:27] <Intii> I'm on a Core 2 Duo with 4 GB of ram
[05:30] <Helasraizam> Can someone give me a keyword for me being able to log in and see my desktop, but I can't open any windows/see any icons?  (keyboard & mouse are responsive).  Eg, "desktop environment" or "gnome" or "UIWL, the Ubuntu Icon-Window Layer"--without error messages, I'm having a tough time googling!
[05:31] <Intii> ObrienDave
[05:33] <nick4me> Helasraizam: If you log out and back in, don't restart, are they there?
[05:34] <Helasraizam> no (both with ctrl+alt+F1 [relogin?] and ctrl+alt+bksp [restart x server])
[05:35] <nick4me> Helasraizam: What version are you running?
[05:35] <Helasraizam> 13.10
[05:36] <Beldar> Intii, This a dual boot and if so with what and its release?
[05:36] <Intii> No dual boot, clean HDD
[05:36] <Intii> 13.10 (netinstall) and 13.04 (livecd) Beldar
[05:37] <Beldar> Intii, Have you checked the sum of the iso? Does this HD have any unallocated space, any partitions there now?
[05:37] <Intii> No no partitions
[05:37] <Beldar> Intii, It has a partition table? you check the sum of the iso?
[05:38] <Intii> Beldar: I have checked the sum of the iso
[05:38] <Intii> And there is no partition table
[05:38] <Beldar> Intii, table?
[05:38] <Intii> Beldar, None
[05:39] <Beldar> Intii, Ah, has to have a partition table, not sure on making one from the mini the live would just be gparted.
[05:39] <Intii> Beldar: It has to have a partition table before installing?
[05:39] <nick4me> Helasraizam: Can you check if you have unity-scope-home installed?
[05:39] <ObrienDave> afaik, you need at least a partition table
[05:39] <Beldar> Intii, has to have a table to have partitions
[05:39] <Intii> Beldar: The installer hangs before I can even create partitions
[05:40] <ObrienDave> Intii, because you have no table
[05:40] <Intii> Okay, I can create one with the LiveCD correct? If I go into the Try Ubuntu  mode?
[05:40] <Beldar> Intii, Can't have dinner without a table, so to speak.
[05:40] <ObrienDave> lol
[05:41] <Beldar> Intii, Yeah you can do it with gparted
[05:41] <Beldar> live cd
[05:41] <Intii> I don't know if this matters, but it did have a Window partition before I cleared it and it was still hanging then
[05:41] <Guest93588> Anyone recommed some good Linux Sites?
[05:41] <Helasraizam> nick4me: yes, it's installed
[05:42] <Beldar> Intii, Ah what windows release?
[05:42] <Intii> 7
[05:42] <krz> does ubuntu base come with nouveau or nvidia drivers?
[05:42] <waykool> Studio Xfce v12.04.3 LTS 64 bit installed.. under Power Manager, On AC, Actions, slider "Put computer to sleep when inactive for". what's Xfce's definition of "Sleep"? like Hibernate, Stand by, Hibernate or Suspend, and might it be dangerous on an older computer?
[05:42] <Beldar> Intii, this computer ever have W8 or gpt partitons?
[05:43] <krz> waykool: i think it might be suspend to RAM
[05:43] <Intii> Beldar: Not that I know off. Unless the default Window 7 is gpt partitioned, but I doubt it
[05:43] <Intii> MBR most probabbly
[05:43] <krz> hibernate is really a hit and miss
[05:43] <waykool> ah  ok. ty krz
[05:43] <krz> but dont quote me on that
[05:43] <Beldar> Intii, well lets find out you on the live now?
[05:43] <usr13> waykool: There are two options, suspend and hibernate
[05:43] <krz> this is how it is setup in debian at least
[05:43] <krz> by default
[05:44] <Intii> Beldar: booting into it as we speak
[05:44] <krz> the same may be for archlinux
[05:44] <Beldar> Intii, Cool use this app to run just the create bootinfo summary and paste the url here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:45] <waykool> v11.04 i read OS's were steering away from using Hibernate because it was messing up some OEM machines
[05:45] <john_doe_jr> I need to install an old version of mono (2.6.7) onto 12.4 precise….do I compile is all from source…is that my only option to get it installed?
[05:45] <Beldar> Intii, the bootinfo running makes a url for you
[05:45] <Intii> Beldar: Okay give me a sec
[05:45] <Shadow__X> hello, I want to use intel integrated graphics and my amd dedicated gpu on my desktop. Once i install the amd card only the monitor connected to it displays something
[05:45] <Beldar> Intii, no prob I'm just hanging
[05:45] <Shadow__X> if i remove the amd card the intel integrated works fine again
[05:46] <usr13> waykool: If you click on "Log Out" you should see the suspend option.  You can try it and see for yourself if it works.
[05:46] <usr13> waykool: (Works ok on my laptops)
[05:46] <osubuntu> I disabled all custom ppas but it says An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[05:47] <usr13> osubuntu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:47] <Beldar> osubuntu, You using any graphic driver ppa's
[05:47] <waykool> ok. rather do it now than mess up when i got 3 TB of valuable client projects piled up.
[05:47] <osubuntu> I only use open-sourced ones
[05:47] <Beldar> osubuntu, xswat?
[05:47] <osubuntu> xswat?
[05:47] <Beldar> osubuntu, ppa's can have open source
[05:48] <osubuntu> i mean
[05:48] <osubuntu> i only use open source drivers
[05:48] <Intii> Beldar: The whole system froze running the app. It's stuck on Scanning systems (os-prober)
[05:49] <aljosa_> how do i get more info then "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade." when using do-release-upgrade?
[05:49] <Beldar> osubuntu, That does not answer the question, look through the ppa's and see if any are for graphic drivers open source has nothing to do with this.
[05:50] <nick4me> Helasraizam: Maybe 3D issues? http://askubuntu.com/questions/384020/fresh-install-of-13-10-left-with-no-dash-nor-apps-only-blank-magenta-wallpap
[05:50] <osubuntu> Beldar, I disabled all custom ppas
[05:50] <Beldar> Intii, Hmm, is this HD in good shape? It may be with no partitions it will not just tell us the partition table.
[05:50] <Intii> Beldar: Yeah it should be...
[05:50] <Intii> It was running Windows 7 fine
[05:50] <Beldar> osubuntu, Yea I know, however you have stuff installed from them, most likely that is the problem.
[05:50] <osubuntu> i never used xswat
[05:50] <waykool> will the next LTS be 14.04 or 15.04?
[05:51] <Ben64> waykool: 14.04
[05:51] <ObrienDave> 14.04
[05:51] <usr13> aljosa_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/could-not-calculate-the-upgrade-what-happened
[05:51] <waykool> smiles thank you.
[05:51] <Beldar> osubuntu, We had a user the other day here with ppa's same error, it was a graphic driver ppa that was the problem/
[05:51] <osubuntu> Beldar, i did ppa-purge xorg-edgers / ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[05:52] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, I am getting this 'Authentication is needed to run /usr/bin/dropbox as the super user'. I have been using dropbox for quite some time now, and it's the first time I'm seeing this message.
[05:52] <Beldar> osubuntu, ppa-purge was used?
[05:52] <Ben64> osubuntu: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:52] <Beldar> osubuntu: run the commands that Ben64 is giving you to.
[05:52] <osubuntu> Ben64, in sudo shell, LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ?
[05:53] <Beldar> Intii,  can you open gparted and take a screenshot and imagebin it.
[05:53] <Ben64> osubuntu: thats not what i said at all...
[05:53] <Intii> Beldar: Yeah gimmie a sec gotta reboot
[05:54] <osubuntu> Ben64, my native language is korean
[05:54] <Ben64> osubuntu: right, but why are you running stuff as root?
[05:54] <osubuntu> sudo -s
[05:54] <Ben64> don't do that
[05:54] <Beldar> bad habit
[05:54] <waykool> ironic.. 14.04 LTS releases the same month Microsoft ends support for windows xp.
[05:55] <osubuntu> Well, this is actually an rare occasion
[05:55] <osubuntu> i usually do sudo apt-get update
[05:55] <osubuntu> well..
[05:55] <Beldar> waykool, gives two reasons to pop the champagne
[05:55] <technickul> waykool: windows needs to end support for xp :P
[05:55] <technickul> waykool: it's time to move on lol
[05:56] <osubuntu> Is it possible to stream stdout to two or more files?
[05:56] <Shadow__X> How can I get intel integrated and amd dedicated gpu to both display? the intel integrated works fine before i installed the amd card
[05:56] <osubuntu> I want one to paste it to pastebin, and one to terminal output
[05:56] <osubuntu> or do i have to copy the terminal window
[05:56] <Beldar> !pastebinit | osubuntu
[05:57] <Beldar> osubuntu, That just sends it to pastebin though
[05:57] <osubuntu> Beldar, i mean, there must be some question wilest doing apt-get
[05:57] <osubuntu> so i have to use --force-yes or yes | command ?
[05:58] <waykool> big problem might occur- Vista win 7 and win 8 are based on XP. any new security vulnerabilities on XP (which most certainly will happen) will likely affect Vista 7 and 8.
[05:58] <Helasraizam> nick4me: Thanks!  My desktop env. choices are only "GNOME" and "Ubuntu (default)".  For whatever reason, I can now see icons--the windows don't have a frame around them (with the close (x)/maximize ([])/minimize (-)) and I still can't start my own windows (eg by double-clicking a folder or ctrl+alt+t).  How would I advance?
[05:58] <Ben64> might be easier to copy+paste terminal osubuntu
[05:58] <osubuntu> okay
[05:58] <Beldar> osubuntu, I don't know them myself, and personally want user to stick with waht is asked myself.
[05:58] <Ben64> waykool: not on topic here, you could ask that in ##windows
[05:58] <osubuntu> but some lines might be cut
[05:59] <osubuntu> Beldar Ben64, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6549555/ is apt-get update
[06:00] <osubuntu> I wonder if the package tree is broken... :(
[06:00] <waykool> very true, not on topic. i don't use MS but guessing many in here might be.
[06:00] <Intii> Beldar: http://imgur.com/r8zoGaj
[06:00] <Beldar> waykool, Any OS is as safe as the user makes it.
[06:01] <waykool> great point Beldar
[06:01] <Diranged> hrmm im running into a problem with openjdk-6-jre on ubuntu 12.04 and log-hostnames..
[06:01] <Diranged> er long
[06:01] <Beldar> Intii, That the gnome only live?
[06:01] <osubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6549555/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6549565/
[06:01] <Diranged> http://pastie.org/8541370
[06:02] <Intii> Beldar: yeah
[06:02] <Diranged> I think I'm seeing a really old bug in java6.. but im wondering whether there is a fix in ubuntu12 somewhere?
[06:02] <Diranged> some updated package..etc
[06:02] <osubuntu> Ben64, Beldar, Sorry for this, can you help me why the distribution upgrade is not working? Here is the apt-get update and upgrade log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6549555/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6549565/
[06:02] <Goldman60> Afaik Java 6 is no longer supported
[06:02] <Ben64> osubuntu: all looks fine there
[06:03] <osubuntu> yeah
[06:03] <osubuntu> dpkg --configure -a doesn't solve this either
[06:03] <osubuntu> or sudo apt-get -f install
[06:03] <Beldar> Intii, Cool I use the shell, I would make a new table-device-create partition table and choose msdos, then try the install.
[06:03] <nick4me> Helasraizam: Did you change to unity 2d and the icons came back?
[06:04] <Helasraizam> nick4me: I don't have "Unity2d" as a boot option, only Gnome and Ubuntu (default); the icons are back in both
[06:04] <Intii> Beldar: Is it still supposed to say Unallocated after I do that?
[06:04] <osubuntu> Nobody could help me? :(
[06:04] <osubuntu> then ill send there a bug report...
[06:04] <Beldar> Intii, yep
[06:05] <Intii> Beldar: As soon as I choose a language and click Continue the system freezes
[06:06] <Beldar> Intii, Not sure than, this a live on a usb or cd or dvd?
[06:06] <Intii> Beldar: DVD
[06:06] <usr13> osubuntu: So you are wanting to go from 13.04 to 13.10?
[06:06] <osubuntu> yes
[06:07] <osubuntu> raring to saucy
[06:07] <Gerowen> Is there a quick and easy way to configure Grub in 13.10?  I seem to remember there being an old graphical tool that would let you set background images and add menu entries and such.
[06:07] <nick4me> Helasraizam: In the Ubuntu (default), try unity --replace in a terminal
[06:07] <Beldar> Intii, I have seen iso's correct with a sum check and not work, and if burned to fast problems as well, just have to guess somewhat here. I assume the computer is powerful enough and all the hardware works.
[06:07] <usr13> osubuntu: Ok.  I'll give you two pieces of advise, in the form of what I do and do not do.  I do not use backports.  I use LTS only.
[06:07] <osubuntu> LTS i see
[06:08] <osubuntu> LongTermSupport
[06:08] <usr13> osubuntu: Yes
[06:08] <osubuntu> Disable backports. And?
[06:08] <osubuntu> Oh
[06:08] <usr13> stick with LTS
[06:08] <Intii> Beldar: Yeah its got a Core 2 Duo 4GB of ram ran Win7 just fine. I've used this DVD before to install Ubuntu w/o problems
[06:08] <osubuntu> lol
[06:08] <usr13> osubuntu: (I like stuf that works.)
[06:08] <osubuntu> but is it possible to go from one LTS to another LTS in one step?
[06:09] <Beldar> Intii, strange place to freeze is all, not sure really.
[06:09] <usr13> osubuntu: Yes
[06:09] <Guest92281> How do i stop the screen from shutting off during install from a oen drive
[06:09] <Guest92281> Pen*
[06:09] <Intii> Beldar: is there anything else I can do?
[06:09] <osubuntu> do-release-upgrade only upgrades to the version immediately released after current version
[06:09] <osubuntu> 12.04 -> 12.10 is possible but 12.04 -> 13.10 isn't possible in one upgrade
[06:10] <usr13> osubuntu: It depends on if you are set to LTS or not.
[06:10] <Beldar> Intii, I would not rely on this disc working before as empirical data is all, if it were me I would do a new download and try a usb and or reburn the dvd.
[06:10] <osubuntu> ok
[06:10] <osubuntu> It says Err http://security.ubuntu.com sausy-security/main blah blah
[06:10] <Intii> Beldar: I have 3 different discs of Ubuntu...none of them work
[06:10] <Guest92281> It keeps shitting the screen off and i dont know ehy
[06:11] <osubuntu> it fails to load all saucy ppas
[06:11] <osubuntu> in apt update of do-release-upgrade
[06:11] <usr13> osubuntu: What does  grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  say?
[06:11] <Beldar> Intii, For me this is a knock out the possible variables, you have any usb's?
[06:11] <osubuntu> Wait apt-get is still in progress
[06:11] <Intii> Beldar, none at the moment
[06:11] <ccmonater> Beldar any ideas ?
[06:11] <Beldar> Intii, I would look up installs with this version and that computer as well
[06:12] <usr13> osubuntu: Ok, well, I've given you *my* advise.
[06:12] <osubuntu> okay
[06:12] <Beldar> ccmonater, not really.
[06:13] <ccmonater> Anyone know how to stop tje screen from shutting off durong install
[06:13] <Intii> Beldar, okay I'll continue this tomorrow...getting late. Thanks for all your help !
[06:13] <Beldar> Intii, Might need a kernel tweak or something, I have rarely had a problem, so mainly know these areas.
[06:13] <Intii> noapci?
[06:13] <Intii> Beldar
[06:14] <Beldar> Intii, Not sure since I have not had to do it, could be that or another.
[06:14] <usr13> ccmonater: look at bios settings ...
[06:14] <ccmonater> What bios setting should i look for
[06:14] <Intii> Okay Beldar, I'll try that out. Thanks!
[06:16] <Beldar> Intii, no prob, sorry we could not get it done.
[06:17] <Intii> Beldar, no worries!
[06:17] <Intii> Take care!
[06:17] <Beldar> you ti
[06:17] <Beldar> to*
[06:19] <edmon> Hi, Does anyone know of a good voice or noise activated audio/video recording program?
[06:22] <hFortich> what do you mean by noise/voice activated?
[06:24] <edmon> hFortich: from the microphone, if someone knocks on the door , or ehem, opens the door
[06:24] <ccmonater> Im stuck
[06:25] <raptor67682> Hi
[06:25] <hFortich> you might have better luck using a microcontroller...
[06:25] <raptor67682> would you konw if there is a sort console think to get a word definition from wikipedia into the console.
[06:25] <raptor67682> I mean sthg such as wn --over (wordnet)
[06:26] <raptor67682> but for wikipedia EN/US/UK.
[06:26] <viewer> Hello. I was following the guide for setting up ubuntu with openbox, and I noticed for asks me to install the package "gnome-volume-manager", however this package does not appear to exist in the repositories for me. what do?
[06:26] <ObrienDave> edmon, https://launchpad.net/audio-recorder
[06:27] <ObrienDave> voice/noise capable
[06:27] <ObrienDave> no video
[06:28] <makara> hi. I use Docky, but since some time ago I can't get it to hide properly.
[06:29] <makara> whatever option I choose, autohide, intellihide and window dodge - it just sits there.
[06:30] <edmon> ObrienDave: Thanks, at least I can see if I talk in my sleep
[06:31] <ObrienDave> lol
[06:32] <ObrienDave> edmon, click the timer info button for command help
[06:32] <edmon> ObrienDave: curious, have you ever configured voice activated recording?
[06:32] <ObrienDave> no, i do know what it is though
[06:33] <ObrienDave> brb
[06:38] <ccmonater> Frustrating. Cant install because the monitor shuts off. Anyone have any ideas. Google isnt giving anything
[06:39] <viewer> how do i set up automounting in openbox?
[06:41] <Shadow__X> can someone help me get ubuntu to output to intel hd graphics 4500 (on an intel i5 4570s) and an amd r9 270x at the same time?
[06:42] <Shadow__X> any help would be greatly appreciated
[06:42] <usr13> ccmonater: try bios settings
[06:43] <Guest93588> Whats a good site for daily news on Ubuntu and other distros
[06:43] <Guest93588> like a CNET.com for Linux/Ubuntu
[06:43] <usr13> Guest93588: distrowatch.com
[06:43] <Guest93588> any others?
[06:44] <DWTaylor> omgubuntu.uk
[06:44] <DWTaylor> webupd8.org
[06:44] <DWTaylor> phoronix.com
[06:44] <usr13> Guest93588: http://www.linuxtoday.com/
[06:44] <DWTaylor> lots of good news sites for opensource
[06:44] <Guest93588> THanks for that
[06:45] <usr13> Guest93588: http://lxer.com/
[06:46] <usr13> Guest93588: https://www.google.com/search?q=Linux+news&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[06:47] <usr13> Guest93588: http://opensource.com/tags/open-source-news
[06:50] <Shadow__X> anyone? this is on a desktop it should work. I get a display on the monitor attached to the intel output but it only displays -
[06:54] <Ben64> Shadow__X: you don't want to use the amd at all?
[06:54] <Shadow__X> Ben64: i want to be able to use both honestly
[06:55] <Shadow__X> i am using the amd card for number crunching to rather use the intel
[06:55] <Ben64> i'm not sure, but you'd probably need to set up two x servers
[06:55] <Shadow__X> hmm really? On windows it works without much issue
[06:55] <Shadow__X> but i guess that makes sense as i do get an output right now just nothing more than a -
[06:56] <Shadow__X> Ben64: could i run 1 X and just point it to the intel gpu?
[06:56] <Ben64> yeah
[06:58] <koyetsu> where can i find kernel options and parameters? for 13.10
[06:58] <Shadow__X> Ben64: do you mind explaning how to set that up?
[07:05] <nts7jst4bt1> Water hole
[07:10] <SwedeMike> ml
[07:10] <SwedeMike> oops
[07:15] <koyetsu> how can i see what kernel is installed?
[07:15] <jefftoan> uname -a
[07:16] <koyetsu> thanks
[07:25] <nemesis> hi
[07:25] <cfhowlett> nemesis, greetingts
[07:32] <scALEXtric> hi
[07:50] <jnhghy> Hi, I'm trying to use php with sqlite(using ubuntu 12.04), I have a working apache and php and just did and "sudo apt-get install php5-sqlite" that installed the package and restarted my webserver but I still can't access the sqlite functions, anybody any clue on this?
[07:52] <frojnd> Hi there.
[07:53] <poxor> !random
[07:53] <poxor> wrong channel
[07:53] <poxor> :P
[07:53] <karab44> Guys could you please explain any time when I start gparted I have "Libparted Bug Found!" popup with Could not stat device /dev/mapper//dev/sdb: "sil" and "isw" formats discovered (using isw)! - No such file or directory.
[07:53] <karab44> what could be the reason of such warning
[07:55] <frojnd> I have an interesting problem. Somehow my home addrss is in /etc/hosts.deny even if I remove this entry it keeps poping up. So I can't ssh to ubuntu. The machine has ufw firewall running.  In /etc/hosts.deny there is no ALL:ALL:DENY entry.. why my ip keeps poping up in /etc/hosts.deny?
[07:55] <causative> I want to install updates (12.04), which I haven't done in a while.  However when I try, it says "requires installation of packages from untrusted sources" and lists a large number of packages.  Is there any way to get a list of which _sources_ are untrusted, rather than which packages?
[07:57] <lkthomas> interesting that if I play youtube on firefox, my soft phone wouldn't work on sound
[07:59] <impradeepy> causative: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:59] <geextee> hi. I saw one desktop feature in linuxmint cinnamon. When you move window to the corner of the screen it automatically takes 1/4 size of the screen. So you can place 4 windows quickly on the screen side by side
[07:59] <geextee> does unity have this?
[07:59] <causative> impradeepy, http://pastie.org/8541494
[08:00] <impradeepy> causative:http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies
[08:02] <causative> it doesn't say there are unmet dependencies it says there are unauthenticated sources
[08:03] <impradeepy> causative:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade --allow-unauthenticated
[08:03] <causative> but is that wise to allow unauthenticated... wouldn't it be better to find out what the unauthenticated sources are, and authenticate them?
[08:04] <Beldar> causative, You pasted a update upgrade yet?
[08:04] <ObrienDave> it can't d/l from sources you have not allowed before. probably expired keys
[08:04] <impradeepy> causative:open software sources see yourself
[08:05] <impradeepy> causative:may be expired ppa or you are trying to update ppa which are currently not in use
[08:05] <ObrienDave> like medibuntu etc.
[08:07] <TheCusp> can anyone walk me through booting ubuntu through virtual box
[08:08] <aeon-ltd> TheCusp: start the vm?
[08:08] <Beldar> causative, at the least you have a intrepid repo open.
[08:08] <impradeepy> causative:or may be you have entered new pps incorrectly
[08:08] <causative> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade seems to be working
[08:08] <TheCusp> already did
[08:09] <aeon-ltd> TheCusp: if it installed properly it should just boot like a pc, but with no bios or post screens
[08:09] <causative> what is a ppa/pps?
[08:09] <TheCusp> i dont know how to mount.  I've only ever used windows so this process is completely new to me
[08:09] <impradeepy> sorry spel misktake only pa
[08:09] <impradeepy> ppa
[08:10] <Beldar> TheCusp, Live or install either should boot.
[08:10] <causative> I would find out myself but I'm having problems connecting to the web because I'm downloading updates
[08:11] <djdes2> before i get sent to #irssi, I have a screen + irssi question.  I use a shell/screen to use irc. is there a way to libnotify me when my tty client sees a certain string to libnotify me?
[08:12] <cfhowlett> TheCusp, mount?  is this first boot?
[08:12] <TheCusp> im so confused
[08:12] <TheCusp> yes
[08:12] <impradeepy> causative:ppa-personal packages archives for more detail  please visit http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them
[08:12] <cfhowlett> TheCusp, change the settings so that this time, it boots from the hard driver, not the ISO.  start the vm.
[08:13] <Shadow__X> Ben64: Hey, is there a way to get X to default to the intel gpu instead of the amd one? then i wouldnt need another X
[08:13] <causative> ty
[08:14] <TheCusp> cfhowlett: I keep getting FATAL: No bootable medium found
[08:14] <jinppk> hi, i am using 13.10 on my  laptop, and i installed kubuntu-desktop to try it but now i am having difficulty removning it without breaking everything. It seems that when lightdm-kde-greeter is removed, x doesnt start on boot. i can still to ctrl alt f1 and reinstall it and reboot. any ideas why this is, or what i can do about it/
[08:14] <jinppk> ?
[08:16] <djdes2> what are the ruls
[08:17] <djdes2> !help
[08:18] <djdes2> !givez absolutely no fucks
[08:18] <djdes2> !kthxbi
[08:23] <cfhowlett> jinppk, how did you remove kubuntu-desktop?
[08:24] <jinppk> i apt-get removed most of the "kde" sounding packages in the list of what it installed when i installed it in the first place that i got from the apt log files
[08:25] <jinppk> i then reinstalled the lightdm-kde-greeter after some trial and error and worked it (or its deps) were needed...
[08:25] <cfhowlett> jinppk, that should not have effected x.  try this.  sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop
[08:26] <jinppk> Package 'kubuntu-desktop' is not installed, so not removed
[08:26] <jinppk> should i re install it them purge?
[08:26] <jinppk> then*
[08:27] <cfhowlett> jinppk, nope.  gone is gone.  resintalled the lightdm-kde-greeter should fix.  reboot to test
[08:28] <jinppk> its currently installed and boots ok
[08:28] <jinppk> but it wasnt installed befor i installed kubuntu-desktop which is a dep of.
[08:29] <cfhowlett> jinppk, ah, I see.  so lightdm-kde is running not the default ubuntu-lightdm?
[08:29] <jinppk> To be honest im not sure what lightdm is so i dont know
[08:30] <jinppk> oh
[08:30] <cfhowlett> jinppk, it's the purdy picturz and lightz when you start your buntu
[08:30] <jinppk> when it boots up the login screen is not the original ubuntu one, sometimes it is the kde one and  sometimes it is just white
[08:31] <jinppk> Yep. so that must be the issue.
[08:31] <cfhowlett> jinppk, right.  there's a way to reset it back, but you have to do it manually.  search for "set default lightdm" or similar terms
[08:31] <jinppk> how do i get rid of the KDE one and get the Ubuntu(unity?) one back
[08:32] <jinppk> ok thanks
[08:35] <Beldar> jinppk, what release?
[08:35] <jinppk> 13.10
[08:35] <jinppk> im trying dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[08:35] <jinppk> after remocing the kde greeter
[08:36] <makara> hi. I use Docky, but since some time ago I can't get it to hide properly.
[08:36] <makara> whatever option I choose, autohide, intellihide and window dodge - it just sits there.
[08:36] <Beldar> jinppk, Ah, well there is a website that has whole package lists for removal, but only up to 13.04 at this time. In the future when you install a desktop save a list of the packages installed.
[08:38] <jinppk> haha yes
[08:38] <jinppk> i shoudl have, i figured it would log it
[08:39] <jinppk> and i took the list from there
[08:39] <jinppk> but i think the issue is some config stuff
[08:39] <jinppk> Im going to try and reboot, so dont send me any msgs!
[08:40] <eraggo> weirdly noticied that i were in overflow channel
[08:40] <eraggo> oops
[08:40] <Beldar> eraggo, never been there, is it like purgatory?
[08:40] <eraggo> wrong channel :D
[08:41] <MangaKaDenza> test
[08:41] <MangaKaDenza> vvut
[08:41] <MangaKaDenza> !return
[08:42] <MangaKaDenza> ahhh
[08:42] <MangaKaDenza> just checking , leaving now
[08:49] <Mutex>  Hey guys
[08:49] <jinppk> So, i tired removing the kde-greeter and reconfigureing lightdm but no good, same problem
[08:49] <Mutex> I did a bit of an oopsie
[08:50] <klrr_> is there a easy way to simply stop a daemon in ubuntu?
[08:50] <Mutex> I ran the Nvidia driver from their website (the installer, I closed x server before running)
[08:50] <klrr_> from commandline?
[08:50] <Mutex> Since nouveau doesn't work
[08:50] <Ben64> Mutex: you shouldn't install it that way
[08:50] <Mutex> Anyway, now I have a black screen after I login with only the cursor on it.
[08:50] <Mutex> Any hints as to how I can remove the driver?
[08:51] <Ben64> the installer should have an uninstaller
[08:51] <Ben64> but just curious, which card do you have?
[08:51] <lvleph> for some reason I can ping <IP_ADDRESS> but not localhost. My host file does indeed contain <IP_ADDRESS> localhost. Not sure how to fix this.
[08:51] <Mutex> 740M
[08:51] <klrr_> is there a easy way to simply stop a daemon in ubuntu?
[08:51] <klrr_> from commandline?
[08:52] <lvleph> klrr_, service <daemon name> stop
[08:52] <klrr_> ty ty
[08:52] <lvleph> as long as it is a service
[08:52] <lvleph> otherwise maybe killall
[08:52] <Ben64> Mutex: do you have a dual gpu setup?
[08:53] <klrr_> lvleph: thanks!
[08:53] <Ben64> lvleph: what does "host localhost" say?
[08:53] <lvleph> Ben64, command not found
[08:53] <Ben64> really? you don't have the command "host" ??????
[08:55] <Mutex> Ben64: I have an intel integrated card and 1 740M.
[08:55] <Mutex> I just finished the uninstall
[08:55] <Mutex> This better work or I'm installing lubuntu
[08:55] <lvleph> Mutex, what is the problem that you are having?
[08:55] <Mutex> Not that that will fix my graphics problems
[08:55] <Ben64> Mutex: you should look into "bumblebee"
[08:55] <Mutex> Can't get Nvidia graphics to work
[08:55] <Ben64> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[08:56] <Ben64> the problem is the dual gpus, not the nvidia
[08:56] <Mutex> Isn't that for opteron devices though?
[08:56] <Ben64> optimus. = dual gpu nvidia/intel
[08:56] <lvleph> My nvidia graphics wouldn't work because the driver wouldn't support efi boot, Mutex
[08:57] <lvleph> Once I figured out how to boot into a bios mode then things worked.
[08:57] <Mutex> Oh I use EFI
[08:57] <lvleph> What type of computer?
[08:57] <Mutex> well looks like im fucked I uninstalled the driver and same problem
[08:57] <Mutex> Lenovo ThinkPad E531
[08:57] <jinppk> Beldar cfhowlett, iv discovered that when i remove the KDE greeter, and reboot i get these lines in my /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log: [+0.00s] DEBUG: Seat: Failed to find session configuration
[08:57] <jinppk> [+0.00s] DEBUG: Seat: Failed to create greeter session
[08:58] <Mutex> Anyone have any tips as to how I can at least get X working again?
[08:58] <Beldar> !language| Mutex
[08:58] <lvleph> You can switch to bios mode some how, but I don't know the specifics of that comp. Also, it may not be the problem. Mine was because the API for my EFI was too old.
[08:58] <osubuntu> X.org x server
[08:58] <Mutex> Sorry :/
[08:58] <lvleph> Mutex, there should be a backup of xorg.conf
[08:58] <Ben64> there shouldn't be an xorg.conf
[08:58] <Mutex> There's none in /etc/X11
[08:59] <Mutex> Looks like reinstall is the only option, right?
[08:59] <osubuntu> Xorg -configure is not recommended
[08:59] <osubuntu> View xorg.log
[09:01] <Mutex> Why does the login screen render fine but nothing else works?
[09:01] <Shadow__X> Mutex: do you see a background?
[09:01] <Shadow__X> Mutex: after you log in that is
[09:02] <Mutex> I see black, and a cursor once I login.
[09:02] <osubuntu> Does it stay in black screen with a cursor
[09:03] <osubuntu> I once have experienced that problem but patience seemed to solve that
[09:03] <Shadow__X> osubuntu: leaving it like that?
[09:03] <osubuntu> Before that
[09:03] <impradeepy> jinppk:cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf paste its outputi think its still using force kde greeter
[09:03] <Mutex> Yes, it stays.
[09:03] <lar4> Hi. there's a bug in alsa on asus boards. i managed to google a patch to fix it but the patch asks which file to patch and I don't know what to input, anyone can please help?
[09:05] <jinppk> impradeepy, the user session is set to ubuntu, and the greeter session is lightdm-kde-greeter. However i reinstaled it to get x to start again, i suppose i should remove it and reboot then check? what should it be set to?
[09:05] <osubuntu> View /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:06] <Rory> lar4: The patch is probably applied to the source code to the driver, and then you compile the patched version. Could you link to the instructions so someone can help you?
[09:06] <impradeepy> jinppk:greeter-session=dafault.desktop
[09:06] <impradeepy> jinppk:greeter-session=default.desktop
[09:06] <lar4> impradeepy, https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git/commit/?id=ae24c3191ba2ab03ec6b4be323e730e00404b4b6&id2=5c0ee9497b33cde3e57460efe4f73313dc0b57a3
[09:06] <lar4> err, Rory
[09:07] <Rory> short url http://rory.sh:41443/2S8
[09:07] <airtonix> jinppk: did you at any point attempt to do : sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ?
[09:07] <jinppk> impradeep, yep that looks like the problem when i removed lightdm-kde-greeter it leaves it as greetersession=
[09:07] <jinppk> airtonix, yes i did
[09:07] <jinppk> no effect
[09:07] <airtonix> jinppk: did you make sure lightdm is installed?
[09:07] <Rory> lar4: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[09:07] <jinppk> airtonix, yes it is
[09:07] <airtonix> jinppk: sudo apt-get install lightdm --reinstall
[09:07] <lar4> 12.04
[09:08] <Rory> lar4: There is probably a better way than patching your kernel! Is upgrading to 13.04 an option?
[09:08] <Rory> lar4: Or, could you describe your issue and we can see if there's another way
[09:08] <airtonix> jinppk: and the reconfigure didn't ask you to choose a login manager?
[09:08] <impradeepy> jinppk:did you set greeter-session =default.desktop?do one reboot
[09:09] <impradeepy> jinppk:during login select ubuntu as default
[09:09] <jinppk> airtonix, when i reconfigure there is no output, when i did reinstall there was simmilarly nothing of note and it still didnt fix the lightdmconfig
[09:09] <jinppk> impradeep, copy that
[09:09] <jinppk> brb
[09:09] <jinppk> exit
[09:09] <jinppk> oops
[09:09] <lar4> Rory, i have crackling sounds with spdif output. There are manual fixes but I haven't managed to do them
[09:09] <impradeepy> jinppk:ok
[09:11] <lar4> Ubuntu 13.04 has no shell?!
[09:14] <ResQue> i have a fat32 partition mounted in ubuntu and it shows no folder /boot/efi but if i look at the same partion with an efi shell, it shows the dir is there whats going on?
[09:14] <zuppy> impradeepy, this is jinppk, still no luck. in the lightdm log it says failed to find session configuration default.desktop
[09:15] <Rory> lar4: What do you mean?
[09:15] <impradeepy> zuppy: after reinstalling lightdm did you also reinstall unity? if yes then greeter-session=unity-greeter and user session=ubuntu
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> lar4: the default Gnome based Ubuntu used Unity shell.
[09:15] <zuppy> impardeepy, i never removed unity
[09:15] <ResQue> the folder is also there when i look at the file system with the grub shell, but when i am booted in to ubuntu the folder is no there, any idea what is going on. its a fat32 partion
[09:15] <lar4> ActionParsnip, I don't want unity, I want to keep everything as in 12.04..
[09:16] <impradeepy> zuppy:then do one change greeter-session=unity-greeter
[09:16] <Rory> lar4: You could perhaps install a backported kernel...
[09:16] <zuppy> impradeepy, haha already trying, rebooting now
[09:17] <zuppy> impardeepy, bingo!!! Thanks very much, is this a bug that removing one greeter does not ensure that another greeter is set? should i file a report?
[09:17] <zuppy> it certainly doesnt seem like expected behaviour
[09:17] <Xat`> I'm having an issue with a fresh 12.04.3 LTS installation when installing openjdk-6-jre from aptitude
[09:17] <Rory> Xat`: If you're getting errors, please put them on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> lar4: the default shell in 12.04 is also Unity
[09:18] <impradeepy> zuppy:enjoy :),glad to help you cheers:)
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> lar4: you can install gnome-panel and log off, then log into the new session on the login screen and get the old gnome-panel style session (with some weird quirks)
[09:18] <Xat`> Rory: I resolved it but this is very strange
[09:18] <lar4> ActionParsnip, ok, but will it fix the bug?..
[09:18] <Xat`> I can't reproduce it
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> lar4: what is the bug?
[09:18] <Rory> Xat`: What do you remember?
[09:18] <lar4> ActionParsnip, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/359361
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> lar4: how will changing the shell you use fix sound?
[09:19] <lar4> ActionParsnip, it won't but someone suggested upgrading to 13.04
[09:20] <Xat`> Rory:  when I tried to install openjdk-6-jre it stopped and said some dependancies cannot be resolved (speaking about metapackage)
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> lar4: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[09:20] <Rory> Xat`: And how did you resolve it?
[09:20] <Xat`> then I installed the package name into this metapackage, then aptitude install openjdk-6-jre again
[09:20] <Xat`> and it works
[09:20] <Rory> Xat`: That's usually when you haven't run an "apt-get update" first
[09:21] <Xat`> Rory: I run aptitude update instead
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> Xat`: its doesnt handle multi-arch, so apt-get is good if you use 64bit
[09:22] <Xat`> aptitude doesn't handle multiarch ?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> !aptitude
[09:22] <Xat`> whereas apt does
[09:22] <Xat`> ?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> Xat`: yes, unless they fixed the bug
[09:22] <Xat`> alright
[09:23] <Xat`> ok ok thanks
[09:23] <Mutex> I had a look at the X server log
[09:26] <Mutex> Okay I restarted lightdm and now it's still black with white cursor
[09:26] <Mutex> So the recommendation was to wait it out?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> lar4: did you run the large command here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> lar4: in step 4?
[09:29] <lar4> running..
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> lar4: why have you not ran that already? Surely that page would be the FIRST page you hit when you were trying to resolve sound issues in Ubuntu
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> lar4: seriously?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> lar4: reboot after it has ran, then test
[09:31] <lar4> ActionParsnip, ok, but the bug report I linked you to suggests it happens with every Asus mb
[09:31] <lar4> in Linux
[09:32] <lar4> So I fail to see how updating a reported but unpatched bug will help
[09:39] <Mutex> It's still black ;(
[09:40] <Mutex> So my only option is to reinstall Ubuntu or another distro, right?
[09:40] <impradeepy> mutex:whats the issue?
[09:41] <Mutex> I installed/uninstalled Nvidia proprietary drivers (nouveau doesn't identify my chip)
[09:41] <Mutex> and now x is broken
[09:41] <Jpmh> .
[09:42] <Mutex> I get to the login screen, login, and its a black background with a white cursor
[09:42] <lar4> ActionParsnip, it's working, ty
[09:42] <Mutex> Which is movable.
[09:42] <impradeepy> mutex:show me the output of  cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[09:42] <Mutex> I can get into tty0 or whatever the virtual console is called
[09:43] <Mutex> File doesn't exist
[09:43] <Mutex> There is a lightdm.conf.d and users.conf though
[09:43] <Rory> Mutex: Can you press ctrl-alt-f1 and log in with your normal username and password?
[09:44] <Mutex> Already in there :)
[09:44] <Rory> Mutex: Can you run the 4 commands at the end of the top answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/206283/how-can-i-uninstall-a-nvidia-driver-completely
[09:45] <impradeepy> mutex:show me the output of  cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[09:45] <Rory> Mutex: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-* && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak && echo nouveau | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> lar4: magic stuff huh
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> lar4: thats why that page exists
[09:46] <lar4> ActionParsnip, I googled the symptoms and found the bug fix that's why i tried it
[09:47] <Mutex> Im on it, thank you so much :)
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> lar4: try:   ubuntu fix sound      and look what pops up
[09:48] <Mutex> Ran all that.
[09:49] <Mutex> Rebooting
[09:49] <Mutex> Btw the xorg conf didn't exist
[09:49] <lar4> lol
[09:49] <lar4> usually ubuntu works well...
[09:50] <Mutex> Okay same problem
[09:50] <lar4> the only thing i haven't managed to fix was using dual displays whichi aren't of the same resolution
[09:50] <lar4> bye
[09:50] <Mutex> I do have a window but with no borders
[09:50] <Mutex> System program problem detected
[09:51] <Mutex> And still black ;(
[09:51] <Mutex> Wait
[09:51] <Mutex> Yayyy
[09:51] <Mutex> I love you all
[09:51] <Mutex> It works.
[09:51] <FloodBot1> Mutex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:51] <saleniex> hi!
[09:52] <Mutex> Sorry mr flood that was very immature of me.
[09:53] <saleniex> I have a problem with reboot while NFS is mounted - reboot hangs on sync. When I unmount NFT disk first and then reboot all works fine. Any ideas?
[09:54] <infolinux> Hi All, Anybody here have experience with iozone and testing NFS?
[09:55] <Siya> good morning all
[09:55] <Siya> I have a 128MB CF card, freshly formatted (FAT32). After I copy 13 files to it it says it's full
[09:56] <Siya> df -h says it's only 9% used
[09:56] <Siya> any ideas?
[09:56] <saleniex> Siya: depends on size of files
[09:58] <Rakholl> Hello, I'm getting periodic upload activity on my network history, and it's clogging up my connection. I have tried netstat -e -e -p to figure out the PID of the process with no luck so far.
[09:58] <RichardRamirez> Hi.
[09:59] <RichardRamirez> Is it possible to dual-boot two linux distros on one USB?
[09:59] <Rakholl> I think my machine is causing some trouble, any advice would be appreciated. The destinations of the upload activity are not consistent.
[10:00] <Siya> RichardRamirez: should be fine, just partition the USB storage device and treat it like a normal disk (grub etc)
[10:00] <RichardRamirez> http://www.circuidipity.com/multi-boot-usb.html
[10:03] <RichardRamirez> Siya, I am having a problem.
[10:03] <RichardRamirez> I am trying to install GRUB on a USB drive, but it gives me this error: http://pastie.org/private/i7zf8n0czhqni4pzc3ygiw (note that I use Ubuntu 12.04 with encryption)
[10:07] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, this ISO's?
[10:07] <RichardRamirez> what?
[10:07] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, full install of the OS or an iso?
[10:07] <RichardRamirez> ISO.
[10:08] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, persistent?
[10:08] <RichardRamirez> yes.
[10:08] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, You know the limitations of a persistent they do fill up and are not really cleanable
[10:09] <RichardRamirez> I just want to dual-boot two linux distros on one USB.
[10:09] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, You can I use the multisystem loader you can find at pendrivelinux.
[10:10] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, ou can fill up the usb with as many that will fit.
[10:10] <Beldar> you*
[10:11] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[10:13] <Wiz_KeeD> Made my post Beldar :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192875&p=12869997#post12869997
[10:13] <Wiz_KeeD> hi
[10:13] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, IT is basically the same as your multiboot link without having to build it.
[10:15] <Wiz_KeeD> that was unsavoury
[10:17] <nictrasavios> Hello, I was wondering what the best 3D CAD program on Ubuntu is for someone who is experienced in SolidWorks and SolidEdge?
[10:20] <residentmoron> FreeCAD looks pretty good, but, no personal experience
[10:21] <Beldar> nictrasavios, best is a subjective, and really yours.
[10:23] <nictrasavios> Beldar: I was expecting a reply like that... so I'll rephrase, in your opinion, what is the 3D CAD modelling software that most closely replicates the interface and capabilities of either/or both of SolidWorks and SolidEdge.
[10:24] <ObrienDave> imo, nothing comes close to SolidWorks
[10:25] <residentmoron> exit
[10:25] <nictrasavios> ObrienDave, I'm starting to get the impression from my research. Maybe I'll mess around with Vmware and Wine. I've got a AW Aurora, so I have enough power to VM it.
[10:28] <ObrienDave> Never could get SolidWorks to run under Wine. gave up trying :/
[10:28] <JesseH> I'm using lubuntu, but perhaps someone will know. How do I minimize a fullscreen game?
[10:29] <JesseH> (uses sdl)
[10:29] <nictrasavios> ObrienDave, Yeah, I'm seeing its listed as garbage. I've got iTunes on Vmware unity, I'll have to see if SW can handle being VM-ed.
[10:30] <ObrienDave> nictrasavios, let me know if you do. good luck ;)
[10:32] <nictrasavios> I'll have to see if I can script VMware Workstation to start on boot in unity mode.
[10:33] <sazawal> I forgot my irc password, how can I recover it? (I know this is off-topic, but I don't know where else to ask)
[10:33] <fishcooker> i've install fail2ban.. the log said that the unban but i stil cant login.. i think the iptables don't accept my connection
[10:33] <ubuntu> k
[10:33] <Beldar> sazawal, ##freenode will send it to your registered email
[10:33] <cfhowlett> sazawal, or make  a new one
[10:33] <sazawal> Beldar, whom to ask in that room?
[10:34] <Rory> JesseH: That's application-specific, sadly
[10:34] <Beldar> sazawal, just ask
[10:34] <Beldar> it's all mods
[10:34] <KeyboardFail> My keyboard and mouse do not work when i boot ubunut, it stops working at the GDM login screen, and it also fails to work if i do a kernal recovery boot boot. it works if i boot from the ubuntu live cd though. I have no idea how to fix this can someone please help
[10:34] <sazawal> Beldar, ok thanks
[10:35] <Beldar> KeyboardFail, Has it always been this way?
[10:35] <KeyboardFail> Beldar: no, this install has been working fine for days.
[10:35] <Beldar> KeyboardFail, So any links as to why the change?
[10:35] <Rory> KeyboardFail: Does it work if you select an older kernel version from the Grub boot menu?
[10:36] <Danato> are all i5 processors 64bit compatible?
[10:36] <Rory> Danato: Yes
[10:36] <KeyboardFail> Rory: i did not try that, i can reboot now and check
[10:36] <Danato> Rory: thanks
[10:36] <tovarish> hi, if i do "ls" and "env -i ls" ls doesn't use the same order
[10:36] <KeyboardFail> Beldar: i did update the grub config file early today, i changed the gfxmode to 1440x900x32, before it was not set
[10:37] <nictrasavios> Danato, If they are 3rd gen or above.
[10:37] <tovarish> I failed to found wich env variable mess with ls
[10:37] <tovarish> does someone know which env variable I should remove to have the same order than "env -i ls"?
[10:37] <KeyboardFail> Beldar: i also had a look in the xorg log and there does not seem to be any errors, in fact i can clearly see it find both the keyboard and track pad mouse
[10:38] <Danato> nictrasavios: so does that mean that not every single i5 is 64bit compatible? or does it mean that i5 are all 3rd gen or above?
[10:39] <KeyboardFail> also the computer does not crash at the GDM login screen, i can see the cursor blinking, and i can use the power button to do a normal shutdown. it just seems as though GDM or xorg isnt getting any input
[10:39] <nictrasavios> Danato, If you get a really old i5, it may not be. But if its a computer made since the sandy-bridge gen came out, your safe. (Which is every computer on the market today).
[10:39] <jpentland> Hey. Can anyone recommend a good desktop environment for multi monitor? When I plug in/unplug my monitor in Unity my  windows go all over the place and it takes me a long time to find them all again.
[10:39] <Danato> nictrasavios: thanks for that
[10:39] <Beldar> KeyboardFail, I would check the kernel as suggested, generally you change grub in /etc/default/grub not sure of what you did as a cause, you can chroot from a live cd though and fix that if needed.
[10:40] <nictrasavios> Danato, Actually, some i5's are 4th gen haswells now. Watch out for that. In general, i5 4th gen > i5 3rd gen.
[10:40] <Rory> tovarish: What's the output of "type ls"
[10:40] <KeyboardFail> Beldar: ok, i will use the live cd and reset the grub config back to the default and i will also try another kernel. thanks
[10:40] <tovarish> Rory, ls is aliased to `ls --color=auto -F'
[10:40] <KeyboardFail> Rory: going to try your kernel idea now, thanks
[10:41] <Rory> tovarish: if you run \ls instead of ls, do you get the same as env -i ls ?
[10:41] <tovarish> Rory, nope it change nothing (I have unalias ls temporary)
[10:42] <Rory> tovarish: that's what \ls does, btw, it bypasses the alias
[10:42] <tovarish> I know
[10:42] <tovarish> today I have to alias ls with env -i ls to have a correct sort order
[10:42] <tovarish> but I really want to understand what broke my ls
[10:43] <Rory> tovarish: can you show me the output of "printenv"
[10:43] <Rory> Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[10:43] <nictrasavios> jpentland, I personally have three monitors and prefer cinnamon since unity makes all three monitors look asymmetric, but I have no experience in unplugging and plugging in frequently, I just know that it seems to handle them better. (No mouse stick or awkward workspace bugs).
[10:44] <Rory> nictrasavios: You can disable sticky edges in screen options btw
[10:44] <nictrasavios> Rory, But then I miss the launcher.
[10:44] <Rory> nictrasavios: perhaps KDE?
[10:44] <jpentland> nictrasavios, hmm ok. I have a laptop with a large monitor so unplugging is the main use-case. I also have 8 workspaces which kind of amplifies the problem.
[10:45] <nictrasavios> Rory, Cinnamon works best, without all the bloat.
[10:45] <tovarish> Rory, http://lpaste.net/96816
[10:45] <nictrasavios> jpentland, Hmm, well if nobody else has an answer then I'd say try cinnamon. But someone else may know better.
[10:45] <Rory> tovarish: Could you show me an example of differing output from "ls" and "env -i ls" ?
[10:47] <tovarish> Rory, http://lpaste.net/96817
[10:49] <Rory> tovarish: I think it's the XTERM_LOCALE=en_US.UTF-8
[10:49] <Rory> tovarish: That's what's causing Z to come "before" a
[10:50] <KeyboardError> Rory: i fixed the keyboard error, i used the live cd to reinstall grub, and create a new grub config file and now the keyboard and mouse both work fine on the GDM login screen
[10:50] <Rory> !yay
[10:50] <nictrasavios> KeyboardError, YAY!
[10:50] <KeyboardError> Rory: i can not remember the name of the other chap who helped me, do u remember his name
[10:50] <KeyboardError> nictrasavios: :-D
[10:50] <Rory> !cookie | Beldar
[10:50] <nictrasavios> !yay | KeyboardError
[10:51] <nictrasavios> Ha, I didn't know that those commands existed.
[10:51] <Rory> !ubottu | nictrasavios
[10:51] <KeyboardError> Beldar: thanks for the help, i reinstalled grub and created a new config file, this fixed the keyboard error i was having.
[10:51] <Beldar> KeyboardError, cool.
[10:51] <nictrasavios> Rory, Merci!
[10:53] <adema_>  v v
[10:53] <KeyboardError> Beldar: i think the error may have something todo with i moved the (hd0,gpt4)/boot to (hd0,gpt1)/ and didnt update fstab, its a long shot but grub-install and grub-mkconfig did something and running them agian fixed it. thanks again
[10:53] <nictrasavios> If I can open and work on SegFault in SolidWorks VM without my computer becoming a lethargic sloth...  then I dub thee success.
[10:56]  * cfhowlett thinks "Lethargic Sloth" is a GREAT distro name!
[10:58] <NuSuey> I can't see the internal GPU HDMI output in 12.04, http://i.imgur.com/zpgLwpt.png .. got one Monitor in the DP, the other in the DVI .. and the HDMI is in the internal GPU on the mainboard ..http://i.imgur.com/H17DBa7.png (5) I see the splash-screen (or verbose if I enabled it) on the HMDI - but the system detects only the monitors on the primary GPU
[10:59] <NuSuey> any idea?
[10:59] <Rory> NuSuey: What's the output of the command "lspci | grep VGA" ?
[10:59] <NuSuey> Rory: oh sorry I'm not at home right now :/ at work atm
[11:00] <tovarish> Rory, ho yes, you're right
[11:00] <tovarish> that's very strange that the universal locale change ls behavior
[11:00] <Siya> saleniex: files are very small, I'm talking about 226 files totalling 12.4MB. I should not have any issue putting those on a 128MB CF card
[11:00] <tovarish> but thank you very much for your help
[11:00] <Rory> tovarish: np, hope you can use that information somehow
[11:00] <tovarish> I will
[11:01] <Rory> tovarish: perhaps alias ls to LANG=C ls --colors=auto -F
[11:01] <NuSuey> Rory: guess you can't help me without the output
[11:02] <nictrasavios> Off topic, but does anybody know where I can get a monitor mount that can handle 3 27", and hang down from the ceiling like one of those dentist arms? I may build one of those.
[11:02] <tollopwollop_> holland is a nice place
[11:02] <Beldar> KeyboardError, no prob
[11:02] <k1l_> nictrasavios: tollopwollop_ we have a offtopic channel for chtichat: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:02] <Rory> NuSuey: What graphics device do you have?