[12:05] <brosioz> how could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ?
[12:10] <kevogod> wtf
[12:10] <kevogod> What happened to #ubuntu?
[12:15] <shadeofgrey> hi everybody
[12:15] <shadeofgrey> anyone available at the moment?
[12:16] <shadeofgrey> i justinstalled kubuntu for the first time... i usually use the gnome version...
[12:16] <shadeofgrey> but i must say...  this IRC client is much better than xchat
[12:17] <libben> true true
[12:17] <shadeofgrey> okay heres anotheer question
[12:17] <Corvus> this ? what client ? konversation ?
[12:17] <shadeofgrey> can i install kolnversation on my regular ubuntu system?
[12:17] <Corvus> yes
[12:17] <Corvus> but you will have to install kde libraries
[12:18] <shadeofgrey> i already use k3b as my burning programm of choice, so the libraries are already present
[12:18] <Corvus> ok
[12:18] <libben> then install
[12:19] <shadeofgrey> heres the most important question...  kubuntu put itself as the primary choice in my grub bootloader...  if i decide to dump kubuntu, how do i safely destroy this partition, and REMOVE thew kubuntu entries in GRUB, and make my other ubuntu installation the primary?
[12:19] <Phobos> anyone know how to change the katapult config?
[12:19] <Tm_T> shadeofgrey: I don't understand...
[12:20] <Tm_T> Kubuntu and anohter Ubuntu?!
[12:20] <libben> yes
[12:20] <libben> thats what he says =)
[12:20] <Tm_T> "ok"
[12:20] <shadeofgrey> yeah!  i have regular ubuntu on one drive, and this kubuntu installation on another totally seperate disk
[12:21] <libben> shadeofgrey: u know that there is no diffrence between ubuntu and kubuntu? except the part that kubuntu uses KDE. hence the K in the name
[12:21] <libben> so if u run ubuntu, just install Kde also.
[12:21] <libben> and u can switch between them two
[12:21] <aciDHead> is 5.10 final ?
[12:22] <shadeofgrey> i didnt want to pollute my regular installation with all of KDE's crap.  and now that i see the results im very thankful i had the forsight to do so
[12:22] <shadeofgrey> kde, in my opinion, officially blows rancid aardvark balls
[12:23] <_andrea> i just installed kubuntu...and installed the nvidia driver...everything seems fine. I mounted a CD with mp3's...but when i try to play, i get some errors
[12:23] <Tm_T> _andrea: you propably doesn't have mp3 codecs
[12:24] <_andrea> the gst-engine claims it cannot play....
[12:24] <Tm_T> yup
[12:24] <Tm_T> !mp3
[12:24] <Glin|Jol> Winamp 5.10 paused
[12:24] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:24] <Tm_T> Glin|Jol: ok, Winamp?
[12:24] <paelscrit> lame, that is
[12:25] <Tm_T> paelscrit: or mad
[12:25] <_marcel> nabend
[12:25] <_andrea> so i use Adept to find mp3 codecs?
[12:25] <_marcel> oh hi guys ;) wrong channel with wrong language
[12:26] <paelscrit> _andrea: it says this in the kubuntu faq on the site: In breezy you can add MP3 support to K3b by installing k3b-mp3.
[12:26] <hydrogen> err
[12:27] <paelscrit> it says to play, but i guess thats burner software
[12:27] <paelscrit> so i dunno
[12:28] <_andrea> thank you :D
[12:29] <_andrea> nice kubuntu till now
[12:29] <_andrea> i like it
[12:32] <BlankC> I cant figure out why my fonts are so different than in 5.04
[12:33] <alberello2005> hi room
[12:33] <alberello2005> :)
[12:36] <libben> why in gods world wont adept jump up in the menu? after installing it
[12:37] <libben> a bit emberassing. when kind of think of all the promotion and testing for it
[12:37] <paelscrit> kubuntu runs super slow on my computer
[12:37] <BlankC> The default font for Konsole seems to be different in 5.04 compared to 5.10 I liked the one from 5.04 how do I get it back.
[12:37] <paelscrit> when i run adept it just shows the timer turning in the taskbar then it dissapears
[12:40] <paelscrit> ugh thats gay
[12:40] <paikan> YaKuaKe Power
[12:41] <St^Anger^19m> !mp3
[12:41] <Glin|Jol> Winamp 5.10 paused
[12:41] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:43] <RogueJediX> Anyone alive out here? Got a quick question. I wish to resize my /home partition, but the option to do that in qtparted is dimmed. Any idea why?
[12:45] <BlankC> is it mounted right now?
[12:46] <`Nomad> !dvd
[12:46] <RogueJediX> Yes. Should I unmount it?
[12:46] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[12:46] <`Nomad> !hoary-extras
[12:46] <ubotu> hoary-extras is probably see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[12:46] <Tm_T> eeehehe
[12:46] <Tm_T> that is shut down weeks ago
[12:47] <Tm_T> been
[12:47] <`Nomad> the backports you mean?
[12:47] <`Nomad> What's teh deal with no DVD playability? :(
[12:47] <Tm_T> yes that ubuntu-backports-mirrormax
[12:48] <Tm_T> http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/119-You-want-to-bash-someone.html
[12:48] <RogueJediX> I'm gonna try unmounting it, see how that works out then
[12:48] <`Nomad> !backport
[12:48] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:49] <TokenBad> can someone help me get azureus working??
[12:49] <Tm_T> java :(
[12:50] <St^Anger^19m> i need mstcorefonts
[12:50] <TokenBad> I got java
[12:50] <St^Anger^19m> how can i do it in kubuntu?
[12:50] <TokenBad> but it says zip exception error
[12:51] <TokenBad> when start to download
[12:51] <`Nomad> St_Anger:  Do a sudo apt-cache search corefonts to determine teh exact name, then do a sudo apt-get install NAME
[12:51] <RogueJediX> Can't unmount it. Says it's busy. Could I set the computer to boot me to root mode and not mount the /home partition
[12:52] <`Nomad> !sources-list
[12:52] <ubotu> `Nomad: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:52] <`Nomad> !source-list
[12:52] <ubotu> `Nomad: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:52] <`Nomad> lol
[12:52] <`Nomad> people use Kopete to come to IRC?
[12:52] <`Nomad> Is Kopete better than Gaim?
[12:53] <Tm_T> yes
[12:53] <St^Anger^19m> `Nomad: didn't find them
[12:53] <TokenBad> now its giving me a gzip header error
[12:53] <Tm_T> `Nomad: Kopete is far better than gaim
[12:53] <TokenBad> azureus I mean
[12:54] <RogueJediX> sudo qtparted
[12:54] <`Nomad> St_Anger:  sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[12:54] <RogueJediX> Whoops, sorry
[12:54] <RogueJediX> Damned failsafe mode
[12:54] <St^Anger^19m> E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[12:54] <`Nomad> what services are back up?  Why change passords?
[12:54] <`Nomad> St_Anger.. Weird, I installed it
[12:54] <TokenBad> so anyone know why azureus would give that error?
[12:55] <`Nomad> !azareus
[12:55] <ubotu> `Nomad: Are you smoking crack?
[12:55] <`Nomad> !azureus
[12:55] <ubotu> azureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[12:55] <`Nomad> Ahh damn.. Gotta go, the kid wants me to watch a Queen Lattifa movie with her.. Urrrghhhhhh!
[12:56] <`Nomad> IS there an answer to playign DVDs?
[12:58] <St^Anger^19m> !msttcorefonts
[12:58] <ubotu> St^Anger^19m: Wish i knew
[12:58] <TokenBad> I had it working before...with ubuntu
[12:58] <TokenBad> now its not working
[12:58] <TokenBad> since updated to breezy
[01:02] <Rogue_Jedi_X> I just suck at this
[01:03] <Bicchi> is anyone having problems unmounting an ipod using the firewire connection?
[01:05] <TokenBad> well I am still trying to get azureus working on here now
[01:07] <soccerfiend> once I have finished updating I will check to see if azureus is still working
[01:07] <apokryphos> azureus yuck :P
[01:07] <apokryphos> KTorrent!
[01:08] <satafterh> is there a linux command similar to deltree
[01:08] <Rogue_Jedi_X> So, could anyone help me with this resizing the /home partition thingy. Right now it's Puter:Me = 3:0
[01:08] <TokenBad> rm -r
[01:09] <satafterh> thanks
[01:09] <TokenBad> will remove dir and sub dirs
[01:09] <TokenBad> apokryphos, I like azureus cause it lets me edit trackers
[01:10] <apokryphos> to alter what?
[01:10] <reagleBRKLN> trying to get access to my loop0 dev after a meltdown
[01:10] <TokenBad> well if I need to
[01:10] <reagleBRKLN> urd:/root/tmp/etc> losetup /dev/loop0 /media/sda1/external.ext3
[01:10] <reagleBRKLN> /dev/loop0: No such file or directory
[01:10] <TokenBad> some sites the trackers can be slightly of
[01:10] <nalioth> apokryphos: my ktorrent just sits and says 'stalled'
[01:10] <TokenBad> off even
[01:10] <TokenBad> and with little editing can get them to work
[01:10] <reagleBRKLN> ok, so i `touch /dev/loop0`
[01:10] <apokryphos> nalioth: you must be doing something wrong :P
[01:10] <reagleBRKLN> > losetup /dev/loop0 /media/sda1/external.ext3
[01:10] <reagleBRKLN> ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[01:10] <nalioth> apokryphos: i dont know what
[01:11] <TokenBad> specially for some sites like torrentspy and stuff
[01:11] <apokryphos> TokenBad: sounds cool; ktorrent is, of course, lacking significantly feature-wise
[01:11] <apokryphos> torrentspy generally always seemed fine n' dandy for me
[01:11] <reagleBRKLN> i have this in my fstab
[01:11] <reagleBRKLN> "/media/sda1/external.ext3  /mnt/external ext3   sync,defaults,user,noauto,loop=/dev/loop0 0 0"
[01:12] <jrattner1> Why when my usb drive in konqueror gives me the folllowing error
[01:12] <jrattner1> The file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.
[01:12] <nalioth> apokryphos: the same torrents that run fine in console, all just 'stalled' in ktorrent
[01:12] <reagleBRKLN> jrattner1: its /media/usbdisk
[01:12] <apokryphos> jrattner1: it may not be named that
[01:12] <jrattner1> An error occurred loading media:/sda1
[01:12] <apokryphos> nalioth: odd; what version are you running?
[01:12] <reagleBRKLN> jrattner1: known bug
[01:12] <jrattner1> reagleBRKLN, is there a workaround
[01:13] <apokryphos> jrattner1: check in media:/ and see if it's there
[01:13] <jrattner1> Is there a removable device icon on your desktop at all times?
[01:13] <TokenBad> well I removed azureus and tried to reinstall it
[01:13] <reagleBRKLN> jrattner1: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyKnownProblems
[01:13] <TokenBad> and it says its not on any of the breezy sites
[01:13] <nalioth> ktorrent 1.0
[01:13] <jrattner1> reagleBRKLN, usbdisk does not exist, it only says removable device SDA
[01:13] <apokryphos> nalioth: may be worth trying 1.1, if you like
[01:14] <nalioth> apokryphos: from source, i assume
[01:14] <apokryphos> yah
[01:14] <apokryphos> I might package it later if I get bored enough
[01:14] <apokryphos> though I can't package it for PPC oO
[01:15] <jrattner1> reagleBRKLN, i dont see any usbdisk, it used to work previously in hoary under sda1
[01:15] <TokenBad> nope
[01:15] <TokenBad> azureus will not install from apt-get or adept or anywhere anymore
[01:15] <jrattner1> actually
[01:15] <jrattner1> im lieing
[01:15] <apokryphos> it's no longer in any repos =)
[01:15] <TokenBad> looks like it
[01:15] <jrattner1> if i use the command line usbdisk exists, but not iin konqueror under media
[01:15] <apokryphos> used to be in hoary-extras, but sun-java was taken out, so azureus had failed depends
[01:16] <apokryphos> that's down to HAL not working then
[01:17] <TokenBad> so have to download from site then
[01:17] <TokenBad> that sucks
[01:17] <TokenBad> now to figure out what version to get
[01:17] <jrattner1> apokryphos, so waht should i do
[01:18] <stodge> Anyone else having problems with the settings window:  http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2123007267&idx=4
[01:18] <TokenBad> should get azureus gtk, or linux motif, or linux ppc?
[01:18] <apokryphos> jrattner1: sit tight and wait for the fix
[01:18] <apokryphos> TokenBad: gtk
[01:18] <jrattner1> apokryphos, ok
[01:19] <stodge> Damn that URL doesn't seem towork
[01:19] <TokenBad> hmm
[01:19] <TokenBad> whats best way to handle bz2 files
[01:20] <stodge> tar xvfj <filename> to decompress
[01:20] <apokryphos> TokenBad: untar them :P
[01:21] <TokenBad> like stodge put or tar xf?
[01:21] <soccerfiend> bunzip filename also works, though tar is better if it is .tar.bz2
[01:21] <stodge> Or bunzip
[01:21] <stodge> Too slow
[01:21] <soccerfiend> erm bunzip2
[01:22] <stodge> Anyone else having problems with the settings window:  http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2123007267&mode=guest    picture 4
[01:22] <TokenBad> bah I still get the same error
[01:23] <TokenBad> even after remove and reinstalling
[01:23] <stodge> REboot time
[01:24] <apokryphos> TokenBad: what error?
[01:24] <TokenBad> bah I am going back to horay or whatever
[01:24] <TokenBad> stupid thing
[01:24] <TokenBad> its getting a gzip header error
[01:24] <TokenBad> when try to download
[01:24] <apokryphos> huhh?
[01:25] <TokenBad> it wasn't doing it before updated to breezy
[01:25] <TokenBad> thats what it says
[01:25] <TokenBad> zipexception
[01:25] <apokryphos> where is the error?
[01:25] <TokenBad> in azureus
[01:25] <TokenBad> when I go to download a file
[01:26] <TokenBad> or should say when start to download a torrent
[01:26] <nimbus> Hi there! Does anybody know how to get flash support in konqueror?
[01:27] <satafterh> you can get flashplayer but not shockwave
[01:27] <nimbus> Does it work like shockwaves?
[01:27] <satafterh> there maid buy same comapler
[01:27] <satafterh> company
[01:28] <nimbus> Good enough for me...
[01:28] <nimbus> I tried following their instructions (from their web), but it didn't work...
[01:29] <penguinboy> Good evening....Geeks, Nerds, and Linux gods!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:29] <nimbus> Evening....
[01:29] <satafterh> flashplayer for mozillia is in apt
[01:29] <penguinboy> i had trouble with my Badger install
[01:29] <nimbus> Will try. But I don't have mozilla...
[01:30] <satafterh> then add mozilla plugin dir  in kon
[01:30] <nimbus> How...?
[01:30] <satafterh> firefox
[01:30] <penguinboy> at 6% of base install I got an error....something to do with an unbootstap?????
[01:30] <satafterh> configure and plugins
[01:31] <nimbus> FF is not standard in Kubuntu, is it?
[01:31] <penguinboy> no
[01:31] <nimbus> Then I don't have that either...
[01:31] <penguinboy> anyone else had Badger install probs?
[01:31] <nimbus> Rats!
[01:32] <satafterh> nimbus setting-configure kno-plugins
[01:32] <nimbus> Nope! Worked fine for me...
[01:32] <penguinboy> shoot
[01:32] <penguinboy> any idea what an unbootstrap error is?
[01:32] <doctorwhite> kubuntu is ubuntu...just not gnome oriented correct?
[01:32] <nimbus> satafterh: ?
[01:33] <penguinboy> yes doc
[01:33] <penguinboy> Ubuntu=Gnome.....Kubuntu=KDE!
[01:34] <doctorwhite> is there one with both...or no?
[01:34] <penguinboy> you can install both doc
[01:34] <doctorwhite> which iso do i look for...?
[01:34] <troth> i just installed kubuntu yesterday and now my sound doesnt work with a startup error message as
[01:34] <penguinboy> from Ubuntu just apt-get install kde-package
[01:34] <apokryphos> Sgep: systemsettings? It of course does
[01:34] <troth> Sound server informational message:
[01:34] <troth> Error while initializing the sound driver:
[01:34] <troth> device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or directory)
[01:34] <troth> The sound server will continue, using the null output device.
[01:35] <troth> ne1 know why? please!
[01:35] <doctorwhite> penguinboy, which do u rec?
[01:35] <Sgep> "This change is not part of KDE, but is unique to Kubuntu"
[01:35] <penguinboy> Kubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!1  Gnome is terrible!
[01:35] <penguinboy> IMHO
[01:35] <doctorwhite> lol
[01:35] <doctorwhite> ok
[01:36] <apokryphos> Sgep: yup; and?
[01:36] <nimbus> satafterh seems to be added allready... It says that "netscape-plugin" under "plugins"
[01:37] <troth> ne1 know my sound problem please?
[01:37] <penguinboy> does anyone of you Linux gods know why upgrade is not an option on the Badger install???????
[01:39] <doctorwhite> r there any other mirrors?
[01:40] <penguinboy> USA, Great Britain, and Switzerland i believe
[01:41] <penguinboy> does anyone of you Linux gods know why upgrade is not an option on the Badger install???????
[01:41] <doctorwhite> penguinboy, the usa dvd one is not fast enough...i get 25
[01:41] <ayah> scuse me... could anyone help me with a ntfs read problem? I'm a newbie btw...
[01:41] <penguinboy> i know doc...i dl'd from the British mirror last night
[01:41] <penguinboy> what's your prob ayah?
[01:42] <troth> ne1 there pls
[01:42] <penguinboy> ayah... r u double bootin'????
[01:43] <Sgep> Umm.... Is it ok to let breezy install with KDE running fully?
[01:43] <ayah> penguin, well I have installed the libntfs5 and ntfsprogs from adept in breezy but still can not access my ntfs partition, what did I miss?
[01:43] <ayah> penguin, yes I'm dual bootin with XP
[01:43] <penguinboy> for shame
[01:43] <penguinboy> LOL
[01:44] <penguinboy> ayah...break the bonds that opppress you my man
[01:44] <penguinboy> ditch the XP
[01:44] <ayah> penguin, take it easy mate, I'm still learning linux here... :-)
[01:44] <penguinboy> lol
[01:44] <penguinboy> lol
[01:44] <ayah> penguin, still trying to not be too dependent on the XP
[01:45] <penguinboy> i broke my daily XP habit by deleting it
[01:45] <penguinboy> works liek a charm
[01:45] <Sgep> But there are some games I really should revisit...
[01:45] <penguinboy> like a security blanket????
[01:46] <stodge> I wish adept would prompt me to confirm the updates before it applies them. I don't know what it's going to do
[01:46] <ayah> penguin, well that's why I installed breezy, the thing is, I have to make sure everything that I need works in linux first, since I have never linux in any way before, I'm a virgin here...
[01:46] <Sgep> ayah: What are you using the computer for?
[01:46] <penguinboy> lol
[01:46] <ayah> penguin, so now I am trying to make sure that I can interchange files between the two OS first...
[01:46] <troth> me too thats why i need help with the fin ishing touches
[01:47] <Sgep> ayah, do you have a vfat partition?
[01:47] <ayah> sgep, well mainly doing some work at home, you know spreadsheet and word processing, maybe a bit of presentation, I understand that I can use open office for that, so no prob there... but I also need to make sure that all my files can be moved to linux first...
[01:47] <stodge> Can Kubuntu read NTFS partitions?
[01:48] <Sgep> Yes, but it can't write.
[01:48] <penguinboy> si
[01:48] <Sgep> (AFAIK)
[01:48] <stodge> THat's fine - I need to retrieve some files
[01:48] <stodge> Is there a simple package to install?
[01:48] <Sgep> Do you know the device it's on?
[01:48] <stodge> I think so
[01:48] <penguinboy> stodge google TUX Magazine....the October issue talks about sharing files betweenthe 2 oss
[01:49] <stodge> Ok
[01:49] <stodge> I've done it on Fedora before but they had an RPM that was downloadable
[01:49] <penguinboy> RPMs...blech!
[01:49] <ayah> sgep, no i don't... teh prob is, my disk is all used up... and i need to copy my files from the ntfs to the ext 3 partition... but apparently I can't read my ntfs from breezy.. i just did a fresh install and also i have installed the libntfs5 and ntfsprogs from adept but still wont read it...
[01:50] <Sgep> Can you find it?
[01:50] <stodge> Did you reboot after installing those? It may load kernel modules
[01:50] <penguinboy> adios mi amigos y amigas!
[01:50] <jrattner1> is there an ubuntu Update manager simlilar to the ubuntu one in gnome
[01:51] <apokryphos> there is in breezy
[01:51] <apokryphos> but it doesn't have a tray-icon, it seems
[01:52] <t2> I need some help
[01:52] <ayah> yes i did reboot, i mean breezy recognized the partition fine, but it just wont access it, it has given me the message taht says: could net enter folder /media/hda1
[01:52] <Sgep> hi t2
[01:52] <t2> hi
[01:52] <inc|freaky> what is the sudo for kde called?
[01:52] <Sgep> kdesu
[01:52] <t2> I created a new parttition to back up some files before I squash most of my hd to put breezy on ...
[01:53] <inc|freaky> ah, awkay thx ^^
[01:53] <t2> and I can only write to it as root
[01:53] <t2> I need to copy a directory to it
[01:53] <Sgep> You can read from it as anyone?
[01:53] <t2> yes
[01:54] <t2> well ... I think so   ... theres nothing there to read, so I can't say for sure
[01:54] <stodge> Add an option in fstab to let users access it
[01:54] <Sgep> Hi jsubl2
[01:54] <jsubl2> howdy..
[01:55] <t2> I just did the options as defaults ... what do I do to make it full access?
[01:55] <Sgep> Post the /etc/fstab
[01:55] <t2> /dev/hdb6	/vm		reiserfs	defaults	0	0
[01:56] <t2> ^^ the relevant line
[01:56] <Sgep> ReiserFS?
[01:56] <t2> is that a problem?
[01:56] <jsubl2> is vmreiserfs correct
[01:56] <t2> yes
[01:56] <os2mac> Hi all,,, I have a question about the password screen.
[01:56] <ayah> brb
[01:56] <os2mac> how do I change it?
[01:57] <jsubl2> me neither
[01:57] <t2> not sure it matters, really
[01:57] <os2mac> I did apt-get on gnome so I would have both GUI's but when it installed it overwrote the Kubuntu passwd screen.
[01:57] <os2mac> i would like to get it back.
[01:57] <t2> couldn't I change ownership of the directory with chown ?
[01:58] <jsubl2> os2mac: sudo nano /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[01:58] <t2> I was planning to change everything to reiser once I load Breezy, so I made this partition by resizing /home
[01:59] <jsubl2> it is still reiser 3 right
[01:59] <t2> and made it reiserfs so I can keep the data there once I blow up / and /home
[01:59] <t2> as far as i know
[01:59] <os2mac> and what do I change it to?
[01:59] <jsubl2> what do you want
[01:59] <os2mac> the original KDE passwd screen.
[02:00] <os2mac> rather than the GNOME Ubuntu screen
[02:00] <jsubl2> change it to /usr/bin/kdm
[02:00] <primoturbo> Hey guys I just installed kubuntu from cd
[02:01] <apokryphos> congrats
[02:01] <primoturbo> does kubuntu use xorg.conf?
[02:01] <apokryphos> yes
[02:01] <primoturbo> alright so I can just edit it then
[02:01] <primoturbo> Does KDE prevent u from copy and pasting passwords?
[02:01] <t2> maybe it would be easier just to copy the directory using a sudo command ....
[02:01] <t2> ???
[02:02] <apokryphos> primoturbo: you're gonna have to be a lot more specific
[02:02] <os2mac> BRB
[02:02] <primoturbo> sorry, well I signed up for a forum and it sent me a password in mail
[02:02] <t2> sudo cp /home/user/vmware /vm    didn't work
[02:02] <primoturbo> when I tried to login on a phpbb forum
[02:02] <primoturbo> I couldn't paste the password
[02:03] <primoturbo> also how do I switch the time to AM/PM?
[02:03] <t2> is there something special you have to do to cp an entire directory?
[02:03] <primoturbo> and sudo command is still used right?
[02:03] <primoturbo> what can I use instead of gedit
[02:03] <nalioth> primoturbo: in kde gui apps, use 'kdesu'
[02:03] <nalioth> primoturbo: in the terminal for cli apps, sudo is ok
[02:04] <jsubl2> t2 cp -rf source target
[02:04] <t2> :)  ty
[02:04] <primoturbo> what can I use instead of gedit?
[02:05] <os2mac> that did it thank you
[02:05] <jsubl2> kate is gui or nano is console
[02:05] <os2mac> could I have vi'd that file?
[02:05] <jsubl2> old nix whores like me use vi
[02:05] <t2> thanks jsubl2   it worked  :)
[02:05] <jsubl2> the default thing yest
[02:06] <t2> now ... off to install Breezy  :)
[02:06] <jsubl2> t2: :)
[02:06] <jsubl2> yep i am gonna blow in the 64 bit version in a minute
[02:06] <os2mac> jsubl2
[02:06] <jsubl2> :)
[02:06] <os2mac> do you have time to talk about wireless config?
[02:06] <jsubl2> yeah i do some solaris at work.. i support  3 os'
[02:07] <os2mac> I do just one, Trusted Solaris 8
[02:07] <primoturbo> when I try to sudo kate a file it gives me an error
[02:07] <primoturbo> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-primoturbo" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[02:07] <primoturbo> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[02:07] <jsubl2> os2mac: i hear trusted in end of line
[02:07] <jsubl2> in/is
[02:07] <os2mac> as in at the end of the line?
[02:07] <os2mac> or headed that way?
[02:08] <os2mac> or that I have a dead end job....
[02:08] <jsubl2> no.. i have heard no more releases..
[02:08] <os2mac> they will trust me........
[02:08] <jsubl2> os2mac: seems like i read that on osnews
[02:08] <os2mac> if there is someone willing to pay for the upgrade (and there is) they will make a new version.
[02:09] <jsubl2> yeah lol more than likely
[02:09] <os2mac> they have come out and told us that they are ending support.
[02:09] <jsubl2> really
[02:09] <jsubl2> hard  to believe they will turn down money
[02:09] <jsubl2> sun ain't doin that well
[02:09] <os2mac> but I work for a pretty big company and I think they will take what we are offering to certify the new version of Solaris.
[02:10] <os2mac> can you answer a wireless config question for me?
[02:10] <jsubl2> solaris 11 will be interesting i hope
[02:10] <jsubl2> prolly not.. tried the wiki
[02:10] <jsubl2> i am desktop wired
[02:12] <os2mac> ahh... I am running on a wireless laptop
[02:13] <jsubl2> is it all workin
[02:13] <TokenBad> god stupid azureus...
[02:14] <TokenBad> what is wrong with this thing
[02:14] <jsubl2> os2mac: i would kinda like to have a laptop again.. but desktops are so damn fast
[02:14] <reagleBRKLN> i'm sure this is a faq now, but are there reps so i can listen to mp3s in juk, use mplayer, kplayer, kaffeine, etc
[02:14] <reagleBRKLN> kubuntu 5.10 is much less fun without this stuff ;)
[02:15] <apokryphos> all of those, yes
[02:15] <jsubl2> reagleBRKLN: sudo apt-get install akode-mpeg i think
[02:15] <apokryphos> gstreamer0.8-mad, too
[02:15] <jbeasley> Is there a fix for 5.04 and 5.10 not saving the default gateway?
[02:15] <apokryphos> for videos etc you'll want w32codecs
[02:15] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos: i use arts
[02:15] <reagleBRKLN> does gstream conflict with arts?
[02:15] <apokryphos> obv. not, no
[02:16] <apokryphos> your players (i.e. kaffeine) will use it, too
[02:16] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos: you tried it with juk?
[02:17] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: if you get the appropriate packs, mp3s will work with arts too
[02:17] <reagleBRKLN> installed liblame0 and akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad, juk not working...?
[02:17] <primoturbo> How can I move the trash to the desktop?
[02:17] <primoturbo> The trash bin to the desktop is what I want
[02:18] <reagleBRKLN> > g hidden Desktop/trash.desktop
[02:18] <reagleBRKLN> Hidden=false
[02:18] <reagleBRKLN> primoturbo: change to true
[02:18] <primoturbo> from terminal correct?
[02:18] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: have you restarted arts?
[02:19] <apokryphos> artsd, that is
[02:19] <primoturbo> reagleBRKLN: Hmm where do I do the g hidden Desktop/trash.desktop
[02:19] <primoturbo> says g is not a command in terminal
[02:20] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos, ok restart did it
[02:20] <apokryphos> primoturbo: edit that file
[02:20] <reagleBRKLN> g is short for grep
[02:20] <apokryphos> primoturbo: kate ~/Desktop/trash.desktop
[02:20] <reagleBRKLN> darn, muscbrainz in juk still don't work
[02:20] <apokryphos> libtunepimp doesn't have mp3 support unfortunately
[02:20] <apokryphos> pretty much the only case where I just use the debian package
[02:21] <primoturbo> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[02:21] <primoturbo> I can't open kate for some reason
[02:21] <apokryphos> primoturbo: are you in a root shell or something?
[02:21] <primoturbo> no
[02:21] <primoturbo> I'm in KDE
[02:21] <apokryphos> odd
[02:21] <apokryphos> use kwrite for now
[02:22] <apokryphos> restart your kde maybe later.. if the problem persists, compile a bug-report
[02:22] <primoturbo> okay
[02:22] <Sgep> Is it ok to leave KDE running during the install of Breezy?
[02:22] <primoturbo> where is kwrite?
[02:22] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: http://packages.debian.org/stable/libs/libtunepimp2
[02:23] <apokryphos> Sgep: sure, but you should restart after it's finished
[02:23] <Sgep> Restart KDE, or the comp?
[02:23] <apokryphos> primoturbo: alt+f2 -> kwrite ~/Desktop/trash.desktop
[02:23] <apokryphos> Sgep: for a breezy upgrade: the comp
[02:23] <Sgep> ty
[02:24] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos: amarok* amarok-gstreamer* juk* kdemultimedia* kubuntu-desktop* dependent on libtunepimp2c2
[02:24] <reagleBRKLN> can't install the stable deb
[02:25] <apokryphos> ah, silly me
[02:25] <apokryphos> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libs/libtunepimp2c2
[02:26] <primoturbo> when I edit it to false I get some odd looking icon
[02:26] <primoturbo> on my desktop
[02:27] <primoturbo> named trash.desktop~
[02:27] <primoturbo> when I try to open it I get a open with window
[02:27] <Sgep> Why is it that the download is faster when I have it up on my screen?
[02:27] <reagleBRKLN> foo~ are backup files created by some editors
[02:27] <os2mac> so far so good....
[02:27] <os2mac> I have corrected a couple of the idiosyncracies that I had problems with
[02:27] <stodge> What the heck is the package for playing wmv videos?
[02:28] <reagleBRKLN> primoturbo: u can delete it if you stillhave trash.desktop
[02:28] <primoturbo> okay
[02:28] <primoturbo> but how do I get the trash on the desktop then?
[02:28] <TokenBad> ok wtf is up with azureus on breezy
[02:28] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos: good try, but still get error connecting to musicbrainz in juk
[02:29] <reagleBRKLN> log out of kde desktop, on reentry should be there
[02:29] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: works fine here
[02:29] <primoturbo> is kubuntu really buggy?
[02:30] <primoturbo> Going to restart see if that helps :O
[02:30] <primoturbo> brb
[02:30] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: restarted juk, right?
[02:31] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos: yep, and i'm envious, had this bug forever https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8923
[02:32] <apokryphos> weird
[02:32] <apokryphos> I'd been following http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15708 too
[02:33] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: does it work for you in amaroK?
[02:33] <Sgep> Yay! approx 7 min
[02:34] <t2> I just realized I AM going to need to know how to mount my new reiser partition and have full user access even after I install Breezy ...
[02:34] <t2> so does anyone know the option I need in fstab for that?
[02:35] <reagleBRKLN> don't use amarok
[02:35] <apokryphos> well, try using it now to see if it works
[02:35] <stodge> Anyone know what package this file is in?     X11/Xlib.h
[02:36] <apokryphos> stodge: you want the X includes
[02:37] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos: in amarok, "The track was not found in the MusicBrainz database."
[02:38] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: for every single one you try?
[02:38] <Sgep> Is KOffice 1.4.2 in Breezy?
[02:38] <apokryphos> Sgep: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:38] <apokryphos> Sgep: or, from here: /msg ubotu info koffice
[02:39] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos: yep
[02:39] <apokryphos> reagleBRKLN: you *definitely* installed the appropriate libtunepimp2c2 deb?
[02:39] <Sgep> If 1.4.2 has important fixes, why does Breezy use 1.4.1?
[02:40] <apokryphos> it was out too late for it to get in for breezy, most likely
[02:40] <t2> what option do I need for reiserfs to give users full access to the mounted partition???
[02:40] <stodge> apokryphos: DO you know hte package name?
[02:40] <apokryphos> Sgep: er, 1.4.2 came out on Thursday?
[02:40] <Sgep> But KDE 3.4.3 came out very shortly before Breezy (IIUC)
[02:41] <apokryphos> stodge: libx11-dev
[02:41] <apokryphos> Sgep: but packagers had it a couple of weeks before that at least
[02:41] <stodge> ah thanks
[02:42] <Sgep> Yay! Done downloading
[02:44] <Sgep> Some strange sounds are coming from my CD drive
[02:45] <soccerfiend> t2: can you be more specific
[02:46] <reagleBRKLN> *** 0.3.0-9 0
[02:46] <reagleBRKLN> apokryphos:
[02:49] <t2> I need to have full user access (read & Write) to a reiserfs partition I created ... I am mounting it in fstab, but only root has write access as it is (defaults)
[02:49] <t2> would noattrs do it?
[02:50] <Comte0> t2: mount -o remount,rw ?
[02:50] <soccerfiend> chmod
[02:50] <soccerfiend> chmod /path/to/mount/point
[02:50] <soccerfiend> chmod 0777 -R /path/to/mount/point
[02:51] <troth> i have a sound problem, when my system boots it gives this error, http://pastebin.ca/25527 help if you can pls
[02:51] <t2> would that be permanent?
[02:51] <soccerfiend> yes
[02:52] <soccerfiend> troth: lsmod |grep snd
[02:52] <t2> I'm thinking I'd like to change the option in fstab so it always mounts with full access
[02:52] <soccerfiend> troth: what is the output
[02:52] <Comte0> t2: if root can write on it, then the fstab is good
[02:52] <omar> Hello
[02:53] <omar> I am using kubuntu i need msn
[02:53] <Sgep> If I wished to look into an iso file without mounting or burning it, how would I do that?
[02:53] <omar> and c++ compiler >s
[02:53] <Hobbsee> omar: kopete, or gaim, or amsn
[02:53] <Hobbsee> kopete should already be on there
[02:53] <t2> ? so I can't make it so users can write, too (in fstab)?
[02:54] <omar> just somthink msn
[02:54] <soccerfiend> um, what you are talking about is file permissions
[02:54] <omar> kopete dont vork
[02:54] <Hobbsee> omar: all of them do msn
[02:54] <Hobbsee> then use gaim
[02:54] <Hobbsee> or amsn
[02:54] <soccerfiend> I am using kopete right now
[02:54] <crimsun> kopete works for me
[02:54] <crimsun> (msn-wise)
[02:54] <omar> messenger.hotmail.com this came allways
[02:54] <soccerfiend> (for msn, not for irc)
[02:54] <omar> I cant log mee in
[02:55] <t2> ok ...  then I'll go with the chmod thing  ...  thanks
[02:55] <soccerfiend> t2: unless you are talking about extended acls, chmod is the tool that you need
[02:55] <Sgep>  * Stopping deferred execution scheduler...                                                                        [fail]
[02:56] <Hobbsee> kopete also works for me, with msn
[02:56] <t2> <--no idea what that means
[02:56] <omar> That sucks for me i am from Iceland not good in english i have a little einglish book <D
[02:57] <soccerfiend> Sgep: what do you mean by looking into an iso?
[02:57] <Sgep> Being able to see the files on it without requiring root access or burning it
[02:58] <Comte0> Sgep: there's an user option to mount for that
[02:58] <t2> I'll stick with the chmod ... I wrote it down for use after I install breezy
[02:58] <t2> which I'm going to do right now  :)
[02:58] <Sgep> Where?
[02:58] <t2> c ya
[02:58] <troth> soccerfiend: sorry, ok i typed that in which number do you want?
[02:58] <tambooki> Hi all; I did a search for this on the forums, but "sudo hang" don't give particularly good results. Here's my problem:
[02:59] <tambooki> sudo seems to be messed up; I can sudo fine one or two times, but then it will just hang.
[02:59] <tambooki> Not the command I'm invoking; sudo itself.
[02:59] <tambooki> Anybody else seen something like this?
[03:00] <Hobbsee> tambooki: try kdesu instead of sudo
[03:00] <Hobbsee> see if that hangs as well
[03:00] <soccerfiend> troth: the lsmod |grep snd
[03:00] <soccerfiend> troth: the lsmod |grep snd?
[03:01] <troth> yes, here ill pastewbin the whole thing
[03:01] <tambooki> Yeah; hangs there too...
[03:02] <troth> soccerfiend: http://pastebin.ca/25529
[03:03] <soccerfiend> troth: ok that looks good
[03:03] <troth> k
[03:03] <soccerfiend> troth: try running alsamixer from the command line, does it show the sound device at the top?
[03:03] <omar> This amsn look grates thank uou >D
[03:03] <starscalling> hey
[03:04] <starscalling> any clue on making mkv's work?
[03:06] <troth> soccerfiend: yes , but it says usb device?!?! mine is biult into the mother board, i can paste this to if youd like
[03:06] <soccerfiend> troth: what kind of system is this?
[03:06] <troth> intelP3 733mhz w/kubuntu
[03:07] <omar> Where can i cahnge the language on the keyborf in kubuntu ???
[03:07] <soccerfiend> ok, on the volume icon in your task tray, click the mixer option
[03:07] <troth> k opened
[03:08] <inc|freaky> linux had echd einiges draufgelegt seitdem ich es vor 1 1/2 jahren das letzte mal draufhatte ;D
[03:08] <omar> Where can i cahnge the language on the keyborf in kubuntu ???
[03:08] <soccerfiend> K -> system settings -> Region & Accesability -> Country and region
[03:08] <omar> keybord**
[03:08] <troth> ok i just switched it over, that  might ve been it!!
[03:09] <soccerfiend> troth: do an ls -la /dev/snd/
[03:09] <soccerfiend> troth: Do you have any funky USB devices?
[03:10] <tambooki> Nobody has any ideas on the sudo issue :| ?
[03:10] <starscalling> t minus a bit for debian install....
[03:10] <soccerfiend> ungh, debian
[03:10] <soccerfiend> my favorite for headless boxes
[03:10] <soccerfiend> but not for my laptop
[03:10] <troth> soccerfiend: just webcam, and mouse, not an aquarium or lava lamp, or something
[03:11] <soccerfiend> troth: are you running breezy?
[03:12] <troth> no
[03:12] <soccerfiend> go to the system settings (or whatever it was called), and then sound and multimedia
[03:12] <Sebastian> how do i upgrade kubuntu from konsole?
[03:13] <Hobbsee> !update
[03:13] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Wish i knew
[03:13] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[03:13] <Hobbsee> Sebastian: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:13] <soccerfiend> troth: also what do you have when you run `ls -la /dev/snd`
[03:14] <Sebastian> ok
[03:14] <Sebastian> i will type that on konsole
[03:14] <Sebastian> i am on xp right now
[03:14] <Sebastian> i iwll email this ot myself and when i boot on kubuntu
[03:14] <Hobbsee> ah, you need to be in kubuntu to do it
[03:14] <Sebastian> yes
[03:14] <Sebastian> i know that
[03:14] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:15] <troth> soccerfiend: http://pastebin.ca/25530 the results
[03:15] <Sebastian> Hobbsee: Tapadh leat
[03:15] <ob3lix> ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/06/30/esr_interview.html
[03:15] <ob3lix> ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix this is the offical reply that rms sended me:
[03:15] <ob3lix> ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix Da: "Richard M. Stallman"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:15] <ob3lix> ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix Oggetto: Re: gpl version 3
[03:15] <ob3lix> ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix Data: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:24:16 -0400
[03:16] <ob3lix> ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix I think that http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/6222 is the location
[03:16] <ob3lix> ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix ob3lix of the interview.
[03:16] <Hobbsee> Sebastian: what?
[03:16] <soccerfiend> troth: run fuser /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
[03:16] <soccerfiend> troth: and do that for all the devices
[03:17] <soccerfiend> troth: all the devices that start with pcm
[03:17] <apokryphos> argh, now that is annoying
[03:17] <Sebastian> Hobbsee: Thank thee in Gidhlig/Scottish
[03:17] <troth> k
[03:17] <Hobbsee> an..right
[03:17] <Hobbsee> no problems
[03:17] <Hobbsee> i dont speak Scottish lol
[03:20] <troth> soccerfiend:it keeps saying no such file or directory
[03:20] <omar> Hey i am trying to log me in the control panel i have one password but i can't log me in >S
[03:21] <Hobbsee> it's not working with the password created during the installation?
[03:21] <soccerfiend> oops, I gave you my device
[03:21] <omar> I am using the password i create in installation
[03:22] <soccerfiend> troth: fuser /dev/snd/pcmC1D0c
[03:23] <troth> it did nor said nothing
[03:24] <crimsun> troth: what's the issue?
[03:24] <soccerfiend> troth: did you try it with all the pcm devices?
[03:24] <soccerfiend> troth: is sound not working, or was it just that error at startup
[03:24] <troth> i have a sound problem, when my system boots it gives this error, http://pastebin.ca/25527 help if you can pls
[03:24] <stodge> Anyone mounted an ntfs drive?
[03:25] <troth> not working, no startup noise, no audio cds nothing
[03:25] <crimsun> troth: that's because your primary sound device currently only supports capture
[03:25] <stodge> ls: /media/windows/: Permission denied
[03:25] <omar> How can i take print screen }
[03:25] <omar> >>
[03:25] <omar> ??*
[03:25] <crimsun> stodge: did you mount the NTFS partition with umask=022,uid=1000,gid=1000 ?
[03:26] <crimsun> stodge: (you really only need umask=022)
[03:26] <stodge> No - just found the FAQ for it :)
[03:26] <troth> crimson:do you know how to fix?
[03:26] <crimsun> troth: cat /proc/asound/devices
[03:26] <Mez> hmm
[03:26] <Mez> anyone know how to do "alt" codes in kubuntu?
[03:26] <crimsun> troth: sorry, cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:27] <troth> ok ive been here
[03:27] <crimsun> troth: I need the output
[03:28] <troth> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/25531
[03:28] <soccerfiend> Mez: sorry, I just use kcharselect when I need an od character
[03:28] <crimsun> troth: which sound device do you want to use by default?
[03:28] <Sgep> Mez: Activate the Compose key
[03:29] <Sgep> Then Compose ' e would give
[03:29] <soccerfiend> troth: try unplugging the web cam
[03:29] <troth> crimsun: well i dont have a usb sound card so id would say the intel
[03:29] <stodge> Cool - kmail imported all my old thunderbird emails from ntfs :)
[03:29] <omar> Hey i need help with languge for my keybord
[03:29] <Mez> sh: kcharselect: command not found
[03:29] <troth> k ill try that
[03:29] <crimsun> troth: echo "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[03:29] <troth> it does have a mic....
[03:29] <Mez> no, I want the alt+0160 fake space thing
[03:29] <crimsun> troth: of course you have a usb sound device
[03:30] <omar> How can i tak a print screan
[03:30] <crimsun> the Web cam is a sound device
[03:30] <soccerfiend> omar: system settings -> region & accessibility
[03:30] <Sgep> Likethis?
[03:30] <troth> i see...
[03:30] <soccerfiend> omar:then country/region and lang
[03:30] <troth> should i unplug or run that command first?
[03:30] <crimsun> troth: run that command first
[03:30] <omar> soccerfiend i found it thank you
[03:30] <jrattner1> Is there an ubuntu update manager lfor KDE
[03:30] <troth> k
[03:30] <crimsun> troth: no need to unplug
[03:30] <omar> but how can i take a prin screan
[03:30] <omar> screen**
[03:31] <crimsun> troth: then run this: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload
[03:31] <omar> I kill the main chat :D
[03:31] <troth> well too late for that
[03:31] <crimsun> troth: no big deal, but you need to run that command I just gave you.
[03:31] <troth> k
[03:32] <crimsun> (both the echo and the invoke-rc.d)
[03:32] <troth> should i unplug first?
[03:32] <jrattner1> Is there an ubuntu update manager lfor KDE?
[03:32] <stodge> What happened to /ld.so.conf?
[03:32] <crimsun> troth: you don't need to unplug
[03:32] <stodge> What happened to ld.so.conf?
[03:32] <troth> k
[03:32] <stodge> Where is it?
[03:32] <soccerfiend> jrattner: kynaptic as well as adept
[03:32] <crimsun> stodge: why is it necessary?
[03:32] <stodge> I need to add library paths for compilation
[03:33] <crimsun> stodge: then you pass them to configure
[03:33] <troth> crimsun: k uploaded drivers and some stuff
[03:33] <crimsun> troth: now log out of and back into KDE
[03:33] <troth> k brb
[03:34] <omar> where can i get somethink like Outlook Express on linux ?
[03:35] <_rob> omar - thunderbird (by mozilla), kmail (by kde), evolution (by gnome) take your pick
[03:35] <_rob> how do i go about upgrading my hoary install to breezy? is it just a matter of updating my /etc/apt/sources or is there more to it?
[03:36] <soccerfiend> you should be able to run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:36] <soccerfiend> I just finished doing this on my home box
[03:36] <_rob> soccerfiend: what repo's do you have in your apt sources list?
[03:36] <soccerfiend> lots
[03:36] <stodge> configure? Bah I feel lost without ld.so.conf! :)
[03:39] <soccerfiend> _rob: I had the hoary backports, clamav, and a debian source
[03:39] <_rob> what ones specific to breezy do i need?
[03:40] <soccerfiend> as well as universe multiverse restricted
[03:41] <troth> crimsun: it WORKS!!! cant thank you enough
[03:42] <troth> soccerfiend: you too, thanks a million man!
[03:42] <soccerfiend> np, I should have picked up on the web cam earlier
[03:42] <_rob> soccerfiend: this may sound a bit pedantic.. but would you beable to msg me the breezy specific lines you have please?
[03:42] <troth> thats exactly what it was, it was reading my web cam as output rather than input
[03:43] <soccerfiend> well they are both sound devices, input/output doesn't really matter
[03:43] <_rob> im an old time linux, freebsd user.. but im new to debian and its apt system
[03:43] <soccerfiend> no worries rob, I have been using debian for a while... are you going to be around for a while?
[03:43] <_rob> yeo
[03:43] <soccerfiend> I just rebooted my home router and it is not up
[03:43] <_rob> yep..
[03:44] <soccerfiend> so it will take ~20 minutes to drive there
[03:44] <_rob> im sitting here trying to learn some QT, updating my system is something to distract me (and probably get in the way) of learning
[03:44] <_rob> oh.. damn i hate that
[03:44] <omar> omar@localhost:~/thunderbird$ ./thunderbird
[03:44] <omar> ./thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:44] <_rob> hahah
[03:44] <omar> S:
[03:44] <_rob> the perils of remote admin
[03:44] <omar> :S
[03:44] <crimsun> troth: np
[03:45] <omar> Help
[03:45] <soccerfiend> my laptop was a breezy install, if you are interested in that sources.list it can be found at: http://pastebin.ca/25532
[03:46] <omar> omar@localhost:~/thunderbird$ ./thunderbird
[03:46] <omar> ./thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:46] <omar> help
[03:47] <soccerfiend> _rob: I wouldn't go from hoary to the config I have for my laptop
[03:47] <soccerfiend> brb anyway
[03:49] <arkanjo> Hi ! I'm from brazil and dont speak english very well :( ..... but I testing the Easy Kubuntu, and my sources.list has a fail entry .. :( and original I dont have backup bcause Easy Kubuntu rewrite the backup each time is started ..   anybody, send me a good sources.list to Kubuntu 5.10 ???
[03:50] <jsubl2> !sources
[03:50] <ubotu> from memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[03:52] <arkanjo> Err http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages  404 Not Found
[03:52] <arkanjo> > Err http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages  404 Not Found
[03:52] <arkanjo> and a Kubuntu entry ?? here I has this error "
[03:53] <penguinboy> Good evening, Geeks, Nerds, and Linux gods!!!
[03:54] <jsubl2> hello.. i know i fit one of those... not sure which
[03:54] <penguinboy> lol
[03:55] <penguinboy> I just installed the Badger on my laptop.  When I installed the Hedgehog it recognized my wifi with no problem.  When I installed the Badger I cannot get my wifi to be recognized.  Any suggestions or ideas?
[03:56] <penguinboy> any at all?
[03:57] <penguinboy> tap...tap...is this thing on?
[04:02] <penguinboy> welcoem stonefree
[04:02] <penguinboy> welcoem jbeasley
[04:03] <penguinboy> I just installed the Badger on my laptop.  When I installed the Hedgehog it recognized my wifi with no problem.  When I installed the Badger I cannot get my wifi to be recognized.  Any suggestions or ideas?
[04:04] <penguinboy> wb doc
[04:05] <doctorwhite> thnxs
[04:05] <doctorwhite> gonna give kubuntu a try soon
[04:05] <penguinboy> kewl
[04:06] <penguinboy> what distro are you coming from?
[04:07] <doctorwhite> iv used fedora/rh for 7 yrs, suse/opensuse fer 4 months, freebsd here and there
[04:08] <doctorwhite> hate suse//opensuse
[04:08] <penguinboy> i hear freebsd is a totally different learning curve
[04:08] <doctorwhite> not that bad
[04:09] <penguinboy> hey ubuntu a question please
[04:09] <penguinboy> I just installed the Badger on my laptop.  When I installed the Hedgehog it recognized my wifi with no problem.  When I installed the Badger I cannot get my wifi to be recognized.  Any suggestions or ideas?
[04:11] <jrattner1> is there an update watcher similar to the one in ubuntu for kubuntu
[04:12] <HillTop> I'm using kubuntu pr live CD. It displays my two USB jump drives and moounts them fine BUT the 5.10 final CD does not. Why? Thanks.
[04:12] <penguinboy> jrattner1: the only difference is Gnopme and KDE
[04:13] <jrattner1> penguinboy, you know how gnome has the update manager in the top right
[04:13] <jrattner1> is there one for kde
[04:13] <penguinboy> yes
[04:13] <HillTop> Q for anyone, seems like a step back to not show USB drives in final version of kubuntu live.
[04:13] <troy> gday folks
[04:14] <jrattner1> penguinboy, whats it called
[04:14] <jrattner1> HillTop, im having that same problem as you
[04:14] <jrattner1> HillTop, but in kubuntu not live
[04:15] <jrattner1> atleast KDE bluetooth works nicely
[04:15] <jrattner1> : )
[04:15] <Lord_Athur> hi
[04:15] <HillTop> oo, jrattner1, not good. Now you may be able to fix it with a change in /etc/fstab to be what the pr version is.
[04:15] <jrattner1> penguinboy, what is the applet called
[04:15] <penguinboy> i think i am gonna reinstall the Hedgehog!!!
[04:15] <jrattner1> HillTop, ??/
[04:15] <jrattner1> HillTop, whats the revision
[04:15] <jsubl2> penguinboy: check the wiki there is some laptop info there
[04:16] <penguinboy> what is the addy
[04:16] <jsubl2> http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:16] <penguinboy> gracios
[04:16] <Lord_Athur> Where can I get a very good sources list? the default list of kubuntu is terrible
[04:16] <Kaiser_sleeps> anyone know some good places to go to get games that run under [k] ubuntu?
[04:16] <HillTop> jrattner1, I didn't note what the current one has, the pr version has only three lines. I think the first on eis important, but I don't understand it.
[04:16] <Kaiser_sleeps> Lord_Athur: define 'good'
[04:17] <penguinboy> Lord_Arthur there is a good sources.list at http://www.irclikelife.com/othershit/
[04:17] <Sgep> I think my system is in an unstable state
[04:17] <HillTop> jrattner1, hte first line is:/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 0
[04:17] <Lord_Athur> :D
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> !games
[04:17] <ubotu> [games]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153, or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers.  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[04:17] <Lord_Athur> kalenedrael, I need a add to my source list a  web page for install wine with apt-get
[04:18] <Sgep> ...
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell lucychili about games
[04:18] <jrattner1> HillTop, if i change that it will work??
[04:18] <Sgep> I have some sort of error, and I'm unable to access any webpages
[04:19] <Sgep> May I paste the thing in #flood?
[04:19] <Lord_Athur> kalenedrael, what should I do?
[04:20] <kalenedrael> Hmm?
[04:20] <kalenedrael> That's odd, do you know me or something?
[04:20] <kalenedrael> You just started randomly asking me questions. :P
[04:20] <penguinboy> lol
[04:20] <HillTop> jrattner1, what do you see now?  We need help from a guru here on this.
[04:20] <penguinboy> lol
[04:20] <kalenedrael> You edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, by the way.
[04:20] <Sgep> Some help?
[04:20] <penguinboy> sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:21] <Lord_Athur> :D kalenedrael I'm sorry I made a mistake I've tried of ask to Kamping_Kaiser
[04:21] <Lord_Athur> :D
[04:21] <penguinboy> KK is probably asleep!!!
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol Lord_Athur
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, back now penguinboy :)
[04:22] <Sgep> Someone please help me
[04:22] <Lord_Athur> .P
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> Lord_Athur: you need universe to have wine
[04:22] <penguinboy> KK i need your help when you are free
[04:22] <Lord_Athur> ok
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. i should be eating lunch, but im here for a bit pb
[04:22] <Lord_Athur> I'm searching the universe web pages for add
[04:23] <Lord_Athur> .D
[04:23] <HillTop> jrattner1, I have a vfat hard disk with data, but can't figure how to mount it. :/
[04:23] <penguinboy> i know i should rtfm....but I am lazy....and like to pick the brains of the Linux gods.....my wife does not work in Badger but worked just fine in Hedgehog...what should I do?
[04:24] <penguinboy> wife??????
[04:24] <penguinboy> lol
[04:24] <penguinboy> wifi
[04:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> lmao
[04:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> your wife has a bug ;)
[04:24] <penguinboy> lol
[04:25] <penguinboy> KK what should I do?
[04:25] <penguinboy> and don;t say rtfm
[04:25] <penguinboy> puleese
[04:25] <thoreauputic> penguinboy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure wife  ;-)
[04:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> penguinboy: do you use the windows driver ?
[04:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol thoreauputic
[04:26] <penguinboy> no windows drivers
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> so you use the native one ?
[04:26] <penguinboy> si
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> um.
[04:27] <penguinboy> I am thinking I should reinstall Hedgehog....then use apt-get to update Hedgehog to Badger?????
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> not entirely sure :| i dont use wifi, so i dont know where to start :| are you sure the cards on?
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> *forgot to turn on a wifi card and spent 4 hours try ing to fix a network* :(
[04:28] <penguinboy> i did not know you cold turn them on and off
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> is it a desktop wifi? you can ususly turn off laptop wifi
[04:29] <penguinboy> no laptop
[04:31] <penguinboy> should I reinstall Hedgehog?
[04:31] <penguinboy> do you think
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> penguinboy: give them a week and do an upgrade, and if its not fixed, A. file a bug, and (optionaly) B resintall
[04:33] <penguinboy> k
[04:33] <penguinboy> how do you apt-get an upgrade to 5.10
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> bbl. food :(
[04:35] <HillTop> penguinboy, you need to change the repository file, then do thet apt commands.
[04:35] <penguinboy> adios mi amigo
[04:36] <penguinboy> change the repository from hoary to badger?
[04:36] <Sgep> Why can't there be an upgrade CD?
[04:36] <penguinboy> i agree sgep
[04:40] <penguinboy> if you have Hedgehog you cannot type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade to Badger
[04:41] <HillTop> penguinboy, see http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradingubuntu
[04:43] <HillTop> Sgep, how are you here asking questions? There are sites selling distro CDs for a few US$ and ubuntu sends them out free.
[04:45] <penguinboy> thanks HillTop
[04:45] <penguinboy> I think I am going to go reinstall Hedgehog, edit my sources.list to reflect breezy, apt-get dist-upgrade, and see if tat keeps my wifi intact
[04:46] <Ravensky> I'm trying to install amaroK from their subversion source, but it cant find autoconf. Do I need to add it to my PATH? I installed it...
[04:46] <penguinboy> adios mi amigos y amigas!!!!
[04:47] <Ravensky> Como esta?
[04:47] <penguinboy> biene
[04:47] <Ravensky> bien
[04:47] <Ravensky> :P
[04:47] <Ravensky> Tienes un mono en tus pantalones?
[04:47] <penguinboy> lol
[04:47] <penguinboy> lol
[04:48] <`Nomad> !sources
[04:48] <ubotu> it has been said that sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[04:48] <penguinboy> donde es mi pantalones?
[04:48] <Ravensky> heh
[04:49] <Ravensky> Tu madre es una vaca!
[04:50] <penguinboy> Se siente realmente bueno tener un mono en mis pantalones!
[04:52] <evilsoccer> _rob: what was site that I pasted earlier?
[04:52] <penguinboy> Su madre es el mono en mis pantalones!
[04:54] <penguinboy> adios mi amigos y amigas
[04:54] <jsubl2> so long
[04:55] <troth> k i got an easy one, i just got the bit torrent and bit tornado packages w/kynaptic, how do i access them to run  the prog?
[04:55] <_rob> [14:46]  <soccerfiend> my laptop was a breezy install, if you are interested in that sources.list it can be found at: http://pastebin.ca/25532
[04:55] <evilsoccer> I did not want to fire up the laptop
[04:55] <evilsoccer> thanx
[04:57] <evilsoccer> _rob: here is my current sources.list
[04:57] <evilsoccer> http://pastebin.ca/25535
[05:09] <ep> Any idea why sound doesn't work in 3d games.  I works in most other stuff.
[05:11] <RichardC> ok
[05:11] <RichardC> done
[05:12] <RichardC> now, is there a list of repositories i can use for 5.10, like the one found at ubuntuguide.org?
[05:14] <RichardC> ...
[05:14] <RichardC> nevermind
[05:14] <RichardC> just realized kubuntu uses the ubuntu repositories
[05:14] <RichardC> :/
[05:16] <RichardC> new problem
[05:16] <RichardC> if anyone is listening
[05:16] <RichardC> kate wont run
[05:16] <RichardC> konsole says it probably crashed
[05:17] <RichardC> richardc@milton:~$ sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:17] <RichardC> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-richardc" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[05:17] <RichardC> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[05:17] <RichardC> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[05:19] <frank23> RichardC: you cannot use sudo with kate
[05:19] <frank23> RichardC: use kdesu kate instead
[05:20] <RichardC> ok
[05:20] <frank23> RichardC: you will have to kill kate as well using ksysguard or something
[05:20] <RichardC> thanks
[05:20] <RichardC> why cant i use sudo w/ kate?
[05:21] <frank23> RichardC: I don't know exactly.... sudo is made for command line programs but it also works with gnome apps
[05:21] <RichardC> so i should use kdesu instead of sudo?
[05:22] <frank23> RichardC: yes it is the only way it will work
[05:22] <RichardC> is that only for sudo, or does it apply to most programs with kubuntu?
[05:23] <frank23> RichardC: if you want to start a kde app as root you need kdesu
[05:23] <RichardC> ok
[05:23] <RichardC> thanks
[05:23] <frank23> np
[05:33] <`Nomad> !dvd
[05:33] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[05:34] <`Nomad> !hoary-extras
[05:34] <ubotu> it has been said that hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[06:00] <Ready> hi can help me why me resolution only 640x480
[06:00] <Ready> i wanna change 800x600
[06:01] <Ready> hello sir ?
[06:05] <arnt> Go to K menu, System settings and then Screen
[06:06] <Ready> i does
[06:06] <Ready> same
[06:06] <komitti> hye everybody
[06:06] <Ready> nothing happen
[06:06] <komitti> anyone can help me with my java?
[06:06] <Ready> 800x600 disaper from list
[06:06] <troy> probably X drivers... ewww
[06:06] <komitti> i want to install java to my kubuntu
[06:06] <komitti> hello
[06:06] <arnt> are you bejind a virtual machine or something like that
[06:07] <Ready> i think i have format this HD again
[06:08] <troy> komitti: same as ubuntu - see: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre ... although it's for ubuntu 5.04, it can be adapted to 5.10 quite easily
[06:08] <Chameleon22> can someone pm me a breezy sources.list please, i want to do a dist upgrade
[06:08] <arnt> Have u ever managed to have a linux distro use 800X600 in your hdw
[06:09] <troy> Chameleon22: see http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy
[06:09] <HillTop> Ready, when you installed, what resolution were you using?
[06:09] <Ready> 640x480 now
[06:09] <Ready> it very very suck
[06:09] <Chameleon22> troy, i need the correct KDE lines though
[06:09] <Ready> 800x600 not show on list
[06:10] <komitti> anyone?
[06:10] <komitti> hallo???
[06:10] <troy> Chameleon22: it'll work for kde for official kubuntu
[06:10] <troy> Chameleon22: the kubuntu packages are in the ubuntu repos
[06:11] <Chameleon22> troy, uh ye i forgot lol, i was pointing to kde repos :p
[06:11] <troy> Chameleon22: the kde repos are for unofficial kde release that happen between *ubuntu releases mostly -- for example, 3.5beta is in there
[06:11] <troy> Chameleon22: all the official packages are in the normal repos
[06:12] <HillTop> Ready, when you boot the ubuntu CD, use a vga code to get the resolution you want; I used live vga=794 to get 1280x1024. 1024x758 is 791. 800x600 is 788.
[06:12] <Chameleon22> troy, ok thanks
[06:13] <Ready> HillTop when boot from cd use type rescue on console ?
[06:14] <HillTop> Ready, when you boot, you use a command, see help on F4 or F5. It sets the video, then when install to HD the same settings continues. It did on earlier Warty and Hoary for me.
[06:18] <RyNSki> Would this be an alight place to ask about a Kubuntu 5.10 problem?
[06:18] <RyNSki> alright.
[06:18] <RyNSki> Anyone alive?
[06:20] <HillTop> RyNSki, sure. Someone might know...
[06:20] <RyNSki> Alright, here goes...
[06:20] <RyNSki> Upgraded to 5.10...
[06:20] <RyNSki> KDE's media:/ no longer works for USB drives.
[06:21] <RyNSki> Tells me media:/sda1 does not exist.
[06:21] <RyNSki> The machine DOES mount the FS under /media/usbdisk
[06:21] <RyNSki> But KDE can't see it under the media section.
[06:22] <HillTop> RyNSki, I had the same problem so I booted up kubuntu 5.10pr (one week old release) and it worked fine there. It must be a difference in /etc/fstab
[06:22] <RyNSki> Yeah, I believe it worked in RC1, but I couldn't swear by it.
[06:23] <cave> Hello? First boot here~
[06:23] <RyNSki> I don't use it every day...
[06:23] <HillTop> Do you have the earlier version? I am in 5.10pr now (live) and so haven't made the comparison. There are only three lines   in the fstab.
[06:23] <HillTop> Hi cave.
[06:23] <cave> Hello HillTop
[06:24] <RyNSki> Nah, I only have 5.10 now.
[06:24] <cave> this is my first time using Kubuntu (or Ubuntu for that matter)
[06:24] <RyNSki> cave: what version?
[06:24] <cave> 5.10 live
[06:24] <troy> I'll check it here in my version - one second
[06:24] <cave> as soon as im done toying around i'll download the install iso
[06:24] <RyNSki> Got a USB drive to hook up to it? ;)
[06:24] <troy> yes
[06:24] <HillTop> RyNSki, look at the first line of /etc/fstab mine says /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 0
[06:25] <RyNSki> Mine's /proc.
[06:25] <cave> i got the live first because i was afraid it wouldnt detect my hardware, but i was pleasently surprised :)
[06:25] <RyNSki> Yeah, it does a pretty good job.
[06:25] <troy> mine no longer works - worked a few days ago - maybe the very sudden switch to 3.4.3 did it in...
[06:25] <RyNSki> Every upgrade seems to break something for me.
[06:25] <HillTop> RyNSki, yes, two USB thumb drives auto showed up on desktop on booting to live CD and then right click to open. And I could write to them.
[06:25] <RyNSki> The one prior to this broke firefox altogether.
[06:26] <cave> yea... I was using SimplyMepis, but that install got screwed up when I downloaded Gnome o.o;
[06:26] <RyNSki> I'm considering installing fresh... but I'd be really pissed if I did and hot noplace better. )
[06:26] <cave> and i figured i'd rather try something new instead of re-installing it
[06:27] <troy> worked less than a week ago for me -- also, the ATI GL drivers broke in the last few days too
[06:27] <cave> turns out i'm liking Kubuntu more so far (altough i havent used it for over an hour yet)
[06:27] <HillTop> RyNSki, I don't see Firefox here in kubuntu. It is not a very complete walking around CD but does show and tell OK.  KNOPPIX, never leave home without it.
[06:27] <RyNSki> Firefox is something that you gotta add, I believe.
[06:27] <RyNSki> Which I did.
[06:28] <RyNSki> But some minor release upgrade, I think to 1.0.7 broke it as anyone but root.
[06:28] <RyNSki> 5.10 has since corrected that one, thankfully.
[06:28] <RyNSki> But here:
[06:28] <RyNSki>  Hi,
[06:28] <RyNSki> This a know problem with KDE 3.4.3 (media:/ does not make use of HAL) and according to what I know, a fix will come soon.
[06:28] <RyNSki> We all have to be patient Wink
[06:28] <RyNSki>
[06:28] <HillTop> cave, what live/install CDs do you have? ubuntu, kubuntu?? Have you tried ubuntu?
[06:28] <RyNSki> I found that on the bugs site.
[06:28] <RyNSki> So maybe 3.4.3 breaks media:/
[06:29] <cave> i have simplymepis 3.3 live and kubuntu 5.10 live
[06:29] <HillTop> RyNSki, I didn't see Firefox on the list. And Mozilla failed to load.
[06:29] <cave> i'm rather new to linux... still very much a newbie
[06:29] <cave> ive tried gnome and kde tough, and decided I liked kde better, so i went for kubuntu instead of ubuntu
[06:30] <cave> besides i dont care for the whole ethnic people huddling thing ubuntu has going on :P
[06:30] <HillTop> RyNSki, I wonder if they will ussue a new kubuntu liveCD? :)
[06:30] <frank23> cave: kde is definitly more familiar coming from windows
[06:31] <cave> it felt more customizeable too
[06:31] <frank23> cave: "ethnic"? aren't brazilians "ethnic"? ;-)
[06:31] <cave> i'm a big fan of that... if you saw my windows install you wouldn't think it was windows at first glance :)
 I use KDE also. Favorite distro for that right now is pclinuxos. But I follow ubuntu/kubuntu closely because I have more than one machine. :)
[06:32] <cave> isn't everyone " ethnic" ? ;-)
[06:32] <jrattner1> how do i get glxgears to produce FPS
[06:32] <frank23> cave: hehe
[06:32] <HillTop> cave, the ubuntu ethnic thing is recent, it will pass... :)
[06:33] <isai> does centrino work 'out of the box'?
[06:33] <RyNSki> I'm running Kubuntu off my harddisk anyway.
[06:33] <isai> I can't seem to setup the network connection (after install).
[06:33] <frank23> jrattner1: do you see the gears?  in my case it's so slow that you don't see the fps... games still work fine though
[06:34] <cave> i didnt mean to start a racial debate here, i just thought it looked corny :P
[06:34] <jrattner1> frank23, i see the gears
[06:34] <jrattner1> how can i get the FPS
[06:34] <RyNSki> My other problem is a lot of the KDE modules, when I tell them to go into the admin mode, they spin for awhile and don't do anything.
[06:34] <jrattner1> also, is there a tool for kubuntu similar to the ubuntu update manager
[06:35] <frank23> jrattner1: do you see them turning at like 1 turn a second?
[06:35] <cave> can i install firefox from the livecd? o.o;
[06:35] <orugo> hi
[06:35] <jrattner1> frank23, they are quite fast
[06:35] <orugo> i've installed 5.10
[06:35] <orugo> i have problems with my spanish translation :(
[06:36] <frank23> jrattner1: yeah they should be really fast
[06:36] <HillTop> RyNSki, if you install ubuntu first then add KDE desktop you end up with both but maybe the both will work better than kubuntu. Just wondering...
[06:36] <jrattner1> frank23, they are how can i get it to report FPS
[06:36] <chavo> jrattner1,  glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[06:36] <frank23> jrattner1: before the fps would appear on the console
[06:36] <jrattner1> frank23, it doesnt anymore
[06:37] <jrattner1> chavo, im serious
[06:37] <frank23> chavo: I thought that was a joke LOL
[06:37] <chavo> try it
[06:37] <jrattner1> how do you get it to list FPTS
[06:37] <HillTop> cave, you might be able to install from the firefox site from the tar files.
[06:37] <chavo> its for real
[06:37] <jrattner1> hahaha
[06:37] <jrattner1> it is for read
[06:37] <jrattner1> real
[06:37] <jrattner1> 5734 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3146.755 FPS
[06:37] <frank23> ohhhhh  I get 6000Fps but I still see them rotating at one turn a sec
[06:37] <jrattner1> thats pretty good
[06:37] <orugo> the new kubuntu  hasn't the kynaptic
[06:37] <propagandhi> has anyone else had a GPG error with apt-get recently
[06:37] <frank23> I thought something was wrong!
[06:37] <orugo> it comes with a different package manager
[06:38] <isai> how do I change my keyboard mapping?
[06:38] <fog> the new package manager is called Adept
[06:38] <cave> meh.. i'll just wait till i install it
[06:38] <isai> I am stuck in spanish but my keyboard is in english
[06:38] <jrattner1> will the HAL problem be fixed tomorrow
[06:38] <orugo> isai hablas espaol?
[06:38] <fog> K -> System -> Pakcage Manager (Adept)
[06:38] <isai> yep
[06:38] <frank23> isai in system stettings -> Regional
[06:38] <elad`> How do I make a command (xmod -e pointer = "...") run whenever X is initiated?
[06:39] <isai> frank23: does that change it for the entire system or just KDE?
[06:39] <propagandhi> I still have kynaptic, synaptic and adept, I'm getting a GPG error from the terminal using apt
[06:39] <orugo> isai: que tal esta tu traudccion? porq mi kubuntu 5.04 era 100% en espaol pero ahora tiene cosas en ingles (muchas cosas)
[06:39] <frank23> isai: not sure...
[06:39] <jrattner1> is adept or synaptic better?
[06:39] <frank23> jrattner1: I like synaptic better but I think it's just because I'm used to it
[06:40] <propagandhi> i personally think adept sucks
[06:40] <frank23> adept is a HUGE improvement over kynaptic
[06:40] <fog> synatipc was nice to see which packages were "official" ubuntu
[06:40] <isai> orugo: KDE esta en ingles como lo quiero sino el teclado esta en ingles (es una computadora portl o sea un laptop).
[06:40] <frank23> !es
[06:40] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:40] <jrattner1> frank23, i like synaptic too, i hope tomorrow the problem with reconising USB diisks are fixed?
[06:41] <judax> adept will get there, it is much better than kynaptic
[06:41] <frank23> jrattner1: I don't have a usb disk but updates which are not security related sometimes take a while
[06:41] <jrattner1> frank23, its more a fix...
[06:42] <jrattner1> frank23, breezy doesnt see  usb drives in konquereor
[06:43] <fog> blah, kscd autoruns no matter what i do...I've unchecked autoplay in the config panel but it always comes back checked
[06:43] <cave> Ok question: Aren't my hard drives supposed to appear on my desktop on the LiveCD?
[06:45] <chavo> synaptic with gtk-qt engine is perfect
[06:46] <cave> there's nothing on my /mnt folder... could it be that my hard drives weren't detected? i remember the mepis livecd gave me access to them
[06:46] <elad`> xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5"
[06:46] <elad`> I need this to be initiated when I start X.
[06:46] <elad`> HELP. Please.
[06:46] <elad`> I've been trying to get this working for an hour now.
[06:46] <novosirj> Wireless sucks, etc.
[06:47] <HillTop> cave, I thought so too, I don't see and hard drives even tho one is fat32 which should show up. :/
[06:47] <cave> mine too
[06:47] <cave> maybe its just in the livecd?
[06:47] <cave> i wanted to test musiic playback but i cant :S
[06:48] <HillTop> cave, the codecs aren't in the ubuntu/kubuntu set. You have to load them from third parties (patent issues etc.) But they are readily available.
[06:49] <cave> oh
[06:49] <Vivaldi> hello
[06:49] <Vivaldi> does the dvd image contain more packages than the cd iso?
[06:49] <Vivaldi> i am not talking about the live option. it does not count
[06:49] <Vivaldi> i just want to know if the dvd iso has more packages when installing
[06:50] <cave> Vivaldi: from what i read the dvd is just the live + the install isos
[06:50] <Vivaldi> oh ok thx
[06:50] <propagandhi> anyone have an idea about this : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3104
[06:55] <danl_b> how do you access kdm theme manager?
[06:56] <danl_b> n/m i ish stupid
[06:56] <satafterh> http://counter.li.org/
[06:57] <HillTop> danl_b, try right clicking places like the desktop
[06:58] <danl_b> i just over looked it in the system settigns window
[06:58] <danl_b> im half asleep
[07:01] <Dark_Sith> morning
[07:01] <cave> too bad this livecd doesnt include azureus.... im gonna go back to windows now to download the install iso
[07:01] <cave> if all goes well i'll be back in a couple of hrs :)
[07:02] <cave> see ya guys
[07:02] <HillTop> good luck cave
[07:03] <cave> thanks!
[07:06] <HillTop> satafterh, how do they count ?? and not count multiple entries? by the user machine's address?
[07:07] <Pablo_C> ok... n00b question....  I installed 5.10 and when I got to my  system settings---> network settings  The networks settings page is taller than my resolution is tall so I cannot click the admin tab to make changes... any suggestions?
[07:07] <Pablo_C> and my lappy is running as high of resolution as it can
[07:07] <satafterh> #HillTop no idea, i just came across it and thought others might be interested
[07:09] <satafterh> HillTop - i posted it in the mandriva site and some guy so a real asshole, thought linux was about shareing and open info, he just turned he right off
[07:09] <HillTop> satafterh, I signed up some time ago #365505 -- now I see they are at lower numbers.  Something is broken there!
[07:11] <frank23> Pablo_C: shitty solution but you can right click the border and select move
[07:12] <Pablo_C> hmm
[07:13] <satafterh> #HillTop I dont really know much about it, I thought it was interesting though
[07:14] <Pablo_C> frank23, I can do full screen and I can see the buttons... Thanks... move wont let me move the top border above the top of the screen... and I can resize cause I cant grab the bottom of the window
[07:14] <Pablo_C> but fullscreen will do it
[07:14] <Pablo_C> :)
[07:15] <whurley> anyone install 5.10 on a new powerbook G4 yet?
[07:15] <kihaji> what would be the reason that adept is not accepting my su password, when the shell does
[07:16] <whurley> I'm seeing a big diff from what the liveCD produced vs. the install (sure it's a minor issue, but its escaping me)
[07:20] <HillTop> whurley, does the install work better than the live CD?
[07:20] <whurley> actually
[07:20] <leonard> i am back again
[07:20] <whurley> the install is far worse than the liveCD
[07:20] <Draconum> hey... I'm looking for some help...
[07:21] <frank23> !tell me about w32codecs
[07:21] <HillTop> Draconum, theere are 115 here, what is your question?  :)
[07:22] <Draconum> I'm needing help with installing kubuntu on my ubuntu... but i'm not entirly sure about what todo.
[07:22] <leonard> u need to run a new installation
[07:22] <leonard> from scratch
[07:22] <frank23> what?
[07:22] <frank23> no
[07:22] <leonard> kubuntu is the KDE version of Ubuntu
[07:22] <Draconum> yeah
[07:22] <Draconum> thats what I'm looking for...
[07:23] <Draconum> I'm just really new to linux :P
[07:23] <frank23> Draconum: install kubuntu-desktop
[07:23] <frank23> in synaptic
[07:23] <leonard> it returns errors
[07:23] <Draconum> synaptic?
[07:23] <leonard> applications>install application
[07:24] <leonard> sorry, ADD APPLICATIONS BUTTON
[07:24] <Pablo_C> meh synaptic is gone... now it is Adept
[07:24] <frank23> Draconum: right   use adept
[07:25] <frank23> Draconum: no, wait right now you have ubuntu, not kubuntu, so you use synaptic
[07:25] <Draconum> ok how do I find synaptic?
[07:25] <novosirj> With both hands.
[07:26] <frank23> in the menu... I don't remember exactly
[07:26] <Draconum> Well thanks for that usfull information..
[07:26] <Draconum> :P
[07:26] <RyNSki> Heh, I'm feeling sarcastic. :)
[07:26] <RyNSki> Run it from a terminal if nothing else.
[07:26] <Draconum> :P
[07:26] <RyNSki> I don't use Ubuntu.
[07:26] <RyNSki> In Kubuntu it's in the KDE menu.
[07:26] <leonard> click on applications on the bottom extreme left
[07:26] <RyNSki> Under either System or Utils.
[07:26] <Pablo_C> or apt-get kdedesktop somthin or other
[07:26] <RyNSki> I always forget which one.
[07:26] <leonard> on the applications menu
[07:27] <leonard> then click on Add applications
[07:27] <Draconum> ok i'm in Synaptic...
[07:27] <Draconum> now what?
[07:27] <leonard> click on file
[07:27] <frank23> Draconum: search for and install kubuntu-desktop
[07:27] <_jake> anyone here?
[07:28] <frank23> no
[07:28] <HillTop> hi _jake
[07:28] <RyNSki> There are instructions in the FAQ of kubuntu.org that contain the actual package name -- I forget it myself, but I assume those folks are correct.
[07:28] <_jake> hi
[07:28] <leonard> click on file, then clic on advance then click on search then type kubuntu
[07:28] <Draconum> ok thanks...
[07:28] <leonard> i don't like kubuntu
[07:28] <_jake> ii click administrative mode in ANYTHING in the control panel, and it doesnt actually go to admin mode
[07:28] <leonard> i bet, you will revert back to ubuntu
[07:28] <leonard> kde sux
[07:28] <RyNSki> Right you are, _jake.
[07:28] <leonard> gnome is much better
[07:28] <Draconum> it is now installing :D
[07:28] <frank23> _jake: is this hoary or breezy?
[07:28] <_jake> breezy
[07:28] <Draconum> or downloading firstly
[07:28] <RyNSki> And I don't know why either.
[07:29] <RyNSki> It didn't work on Hoary for me either.
[07:29] <_jake> man
[07:29] <RyNSki> Luckily, I don't /really/ care.
[07:29] <frank23> _jake: this is a known and unfixed problem
[07:29] <RyNSki> Otherwise I'd be upset.
[07:29] <_jake> damn
[07:29] <frank23> _jake: try kdesu kcontrol
[07:29] <Draconum> so anyways... umm yeah... I;m not able to get my sound working either...
[07:29] <_jake> i think i will go back to ubuntu, i just wanted to acess my other harddrive with the music on it :(
[07:29] <leonard> i can't seem to play mpeg and mp3 using totem
[07:29] <_jake> i tried that it hung up
[07:29] <frank23> leonard: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:30] <leonard> i already did
[07:30] <RyNSki> leonard: I much prefer KDE.
[07:30] <RyNSki> I find Gnome to be fugly.
[07:30] <leonard> KDE looks and feels like windows
[07:30] <RyNSki> Eh, somewhat.
[07:30] <RyNSki> Not really though.
[07:31] <Draconum> So what do people usally use linix for?
[07:31] <Draconum> just...
[07:31] <frank23> RyNSki: its close enough to Windows to not be lost in it
[07:31] <Draconum> average stuff?
[07:31] <RyNSki> That's true.
[07:31] <leonard> everything
[07:31] <RyNSki> Draconum: What do people use computers for? There's your answer.
[07:31] <RyNSki> Do you mean "why?"
[07:31] <Draconum> :P
[07:31] <RyNSki> As in why did I switch?
[07:31] <_jake> but its so weird and i cant get anything to work in KDE
[07:31] <_jake> i admit, its beautiful, and it has the capability of being something really versatile and amazing
[07:31] <Draconum> yeah
[07:31] <RyNSki> And the answer for that one is Windows got slower and slowre.
[07:31] <RyNSki> er
[07:32] <leonard> KDE messes up my graphics
[07:32] <Draconum> ah
[07:32] <RyNSki> So on my latest re-install, I said, screw that.
[07:32] <Draconum> yeah
[07:32] <leonard> i can't get the right resolution of my screen in KDE
[07:32] <Draconum> I'm still a windows user...
[07:32] <RyNSki> Actually, that's not what I said, but I'm not sure if we swear in here.
[07:32] <Draconum> I just wanted to try linux out as well
[07:32] <_jake> i had so many problems with windows, and it always just made me angry, and i didnt like the ethics of microsoft
[07:32] <Hobbsee> Draconum: tried a live cd?
[07:32] <RyNSki> That's another one.
[07:32] <leonard> linux is the best operating system
[07:32] <_jake> and i like the versatility and diversity, and liberty of the open source community
[07:32] <Draconum> so I'm running both OS's on the same system.
[07:33] <Hobbsee> windows annoys me...every time i have to boot there...
[07:33] <Draconum> Yeah
[07:33] <Hobbsee> Draconum: nice, that works
[07:33] <RyNSki> Oh, another answer.
[07:33] <Draconum> :D
[07:33] <RyNSki> I stuck with Windows for the games.
[07:33] <Draconum> Yeah
[07:33] <HillTop> _jake, I hear ya. :)
[07:33] <RyNSki> And then I realized, when's the last time I played a game?
[07:33] <RyNSki> And that was the nail in the coffin.
[07:33] <leonard> my only problem is applications for linux
[07:33] <frank23> Draconum: yeah keep windows if you need it. I can only change songs on my mp3 player with windows
[07:33] <Draconum> yeah
[07:33] <_jake> ok well tonight, i am gonna sleep: morning: reinstall ubuntu, i was having problems with grub but i solved them
[07:33] <RyNSki> I do that at work.
[07:33] <leonard> i have certain applications like Actix Analyser i use for windows
[07:33] <_jake> gnight all
[07:33] <RyNSki> I wonder if there's a way to do it in Linux though.
[07:34] <RyNSki> Just haven't looked yet.
[07:34] <strike4ce> How do you save a file as executable?
[07:34] <RyNSki> Mine's a palm.
[07:34] <Draconum> I do alot of webmaster work
[07:34] <Draconum> but I'm planning on getting a mac for that.
[07:34] <RyNSki> Anyone know off the top of their head?
[07:34] <Pablo_C> chmod 777?
[07:34] <frank23> strike4ce: chmod +x  filename
[07:34] <strike4ce> Can anyone help me?
[07:34] <Draconum> than window will just be used for games and what not
[07:34] <leonard> Can i install linux on a Mac?
[07:34] <RyNSki> Yessir.
[07:34] <Draconum> yes
[07:34] <strike4ce> in terminal?
[07:34] <RyNSki> Yes.
[07:34] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: nope, not without more info
[07:34] <strike4ce> frank23: in terminal
[07:35] <RyNSki> strike4ce: What are you really talking about?
[07:35] <frank23> strike4ce: yeah
[07:35] <RyNSki> strike4ce: There is no such thing as an executable file.
[07:35] <strike4ce> trying to download java
[07:35] <leonard> is there flight simulator for linux?
[07:35] <RyNSki> strike4ce: There are files with execute permissions set.
[07:35] <satafterh> anyone know why dvdauthor will not install properly from atp-get or any other manager?
[07:35] <RyNSki> strike4ce: But any file can have them.
[07:35] <frank23> strike4ce: is java 1.4 good enough? get it in multiverse
[07:35] <strike4ce> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-55315677ab8f9890825549fa2ecebdde4bc68087
[07:35] <HillTop> strike4ce, depends on how the file was created. Compile a C program, make a bash script?
[07:35] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[07:35] <strike4ce> frank23: read that
[07:36] <Hobbsee> leonard: there are a few, never tried them, they're in adept
[07:36] <Draconum> is X-Chat supose to make a sound when somebody reply's?
[07:36] <Draconum> or says something?
[07:36] <RyNSki> Yeah, I needs me some Java. I haven't gotten it yet.
[07:36] <frank23> strike4ce: they should change that webpage
[07:36] <satafterh> they are they call restricted
[07:36] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: check out my link above
[07:36] <Hobbsee> they have the debs there and make it really simple :)
[07:37] <frank23> strike4ce: enable multiverse
[07:37] <leonard> linux is compiled on which programming language?
[07:37] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: where does that deb file go?
[07:37] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: how do i open it
[07:37] <Hobbsee> wherever you like.  home directory
[07:37] <frank23> leonard: C and C++
[07:37] <RyNSki> strike4ce: man dpkg -- you want dpkg -i in this case.
[07:37] <Hobbsee> then, in a console "sudo dpkg -i sun(tab)"
[07:37] <RyNSki> strike4ce: dpkg -i <filename>
[07:37] <RyNSki> Oh... right... sudo.
[07:38] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: it opened kate
[07:38] <RyNSki> I'm so not used to the sudo deal.
[07:38] <RyNSki> Save it, don't open it.
[07:38] <leonard> what about Windows? just curious
[07:38] <Hobbsee> ahem, kdesu, before i get in trouble for it again :P
[07:38] <frank23> leonard: C and C++ I'm sure
[07:38] <Draconum> doesn't windows have some Basic in it?
[07:39] <leonard> the c and c++ used to compile these OS run on which OS?
[07:39] <frank23> Draconum: maybe...
[07:39] <RyNSki> Heh, the ol' chicken and the egg.
[07:40] <RyNSki> And voila, I have the Java.
[07:40] <Draconum> almost a minute before kubuntu is done downloading
[07:40] <frank23> leonard: the windows compilers run on windows, gcc runs on everything you can imagine
[07:40] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: :D it's far easier doing it that way!
[07:40] <RyNSki> And I'll be damned if I remember what I wanted it for.
[07:40] <Hobbsee> Draconum: yay!
[07:40] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: LOL.  something
[07:40] <frank23> RyNSki: azureus?
[07:41] <leonard> i still don't understand how Windows/linux could be written using C/C++ that run on Windows/Linux
[07:41] <RyNSki> Looks like it mighta been TripWire Manager. Nope... that's still broken... heh.
[07:41] <frank23> leonard: C is just a programming language
[07:41] <strike4ce> RyNSki: why save it?  its already on my desktop
[07:41] <RyNSki> Oh.
[07:41] <Draconum> I wonder why it's called C... why not like... W or A or Q?
[07:42] <Draconum> lol
[07:42] <RyNSki> I thought you were opening it from a browser.
[07:42] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: in a console: cd Desktop
[07:42] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: then "sudo dpkg -i sun(tab)"
[07:42] <Draconum> anyways I'll be back in a bit...
[07:42] <Draconum> kubuntu time!
[07:42] <Hobbsee> :D
[07:42] <Hobbsee> Draconum: enjoy the new installer
[07:42] <Hobbsee> more clear than the old one
[07:42] <Draconum> Will do.
[07:42] <leonard> Thanks Frank
[07:42] <strike4ce> what console?
[07:42] <RyNSki> Anyone know anything about libstdc++
[07:42] <RyNSki> strike4ce: Open "Konsole."
[07:42] <Hobbsee> konsole
[07:43] <strike4ce> lol sorry please have patience with me
[07:43] <leonard> so there must be some primitive OS which can understand this programming language right?
[07:43] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: no problems, for future reference, most commands that people give you will go in the console - it's easier to explain that way
[07:43] <RyNSki> I suppose I should install those w32codecs too.
[07:43] <Hobbsee> lol
[07:43] <Hobbsee> could do, yeah
[07:43] <Hobbsee> wonder if i installed them...think i did
[07:44] <RyNSki> I hate adding repositories.
[07:44] <RyNSki> Every time I do, one has new versions of all my current stuff.
[07:44] <RyNSki> After doing "update", nothing works. ;)
[07:44] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: I did cd desktop and got this: No such file or directory
[07:44] <Hobbsee> case sensitive
[07:44] <Hobbsee> cd Desktop
[07:44] <RyNSki> strike4ce: EVERYTHING is case sensitive.
[07:44] <Hobbsee> unless you've renamed it
[07:44] <RyNSki> Nearly.
[07:44] <Hobbsee> it's really annoying lol
[07:44] <RyNSki> Hobbsee: He hasn't. ;)
[07:44] <Hobbsee> :P
[07:44] <Hobbsee> didnt think so
[07:44] <RyNSki> Hobbsee: Why?
[07:45] <RyNSki> I love that it's predictable.
[07:45] <Hobbsee> what, case sensitive?  cos i can never remember which are case sensitive folders, and which arent
[07:45] <strike4ce> So I need to rename it?
[07:45] <Hobbsee> no
[07:45] <RyNSki> What you type is what you get.
[07:45] <Hobbsee> just "cd Desktop"
[07:45] <Hobbsee> so true
[07:45] <strike4ce> AHHH!!! LMAO
[07:45] <RyNSki> I like getting what I ask for. :)
[07:46] <Hobbsee> :P
[07:46] <RyNSki> Y'know, "give me Java dammit" "Oh, have some Java." etc.
[07:46] <Hobbsee> you can do a "dir" to check that you're in the one you wanted to be it
[07:46] <Hobbsee> lol
[07:46] <Hobbsee> and see if the filename is there
[07:46] <RyNSki> ls -la -- get out of the habit of using dir and you'll be a lot better prepared for UNIX, etc.
[07:46] <Hobbsee> ah...
[07:47] <RyNSki> Or just ls.
[07:47] <Hobbsee> ooh pretty!
[07:47] <Hobbsee> yeah
[07:47] <Hobbsee> tried that one first
[07:47] <RyNSki> I doubt dir works on SunOS, etc.
[07:47] <RyNSki> Ooh, ls is color, dir is not.
[07:47] <RyNSki> Interesting.
[07:47] <Hobbsee> very
[07:47] <Hobbsee> much more pretty in colour :P
[07:47] <RyNSki> So true.
[07:48] <RyNSki> Now to find libstdc++ in the form that TripWire wants.
[07:48] <Hobbsee> thing i want to know is, can linux shut down computers remotely via a command, like MSDOS lol?
[07:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about wine
[07:48] <Hobbsee> that was fun during school!
[07:48] <RyNSki> Nah.
[07:48] <RyNSki> Linux is a lot less retarded.
[07:48] <RyNSki> You'd have to actually try to have your machine be that insecure.
[07:48] <_bridgetd> linux... was ever retarded?
[07:49] <HillTop> Hobbsee, use pwd to see working directory
[07:49] <_bridgetd> im just pissed i dont have xchat installed yet
[07:49] <RyNSki> ...if it isn't in your prompt. :)
[07:49] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[07:49] <RyNSki> Whoa now.
[07:49] <RyNSki> What on earth did you type? :)
[07:50] <RyNSki> strike4ce: What did you type?
[07:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell chili_kaiser about wine
[07:50] <RyNSki> No.
[07:51] <RyNSki> You tell him or her about wine.
[07:51] <Hobbsee> !wine
[07:51] <RyNSki> Heh, goes to show where my mind is... completely forgot about WINE and was thinking wine.
[07:51] <Hobbsee> wonder if that link still works...
[07:51] <RyNSki> !wine
[07:51] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:52] <RyNSki> "Someone already said that 20 seconds ago."
[07:52] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: dpkg -i sun(tab)
[07:52] <Hobbsee> yeah, but it doesnt show thru here now
[07:52] <Draconum> err...
[07:52] <Draconum> ok
[07:52] <RyNSki> ...which sounds like something a person would say.
[07:52] <Draconum> I installed the package.
[07:52] <Draconum> now what.
[07:52] <RyNSki> But not actually mean 20 seconds.
[07:52] <RyNSki> strike4ce: The TAB key, not (tab).
[07:52] <RyNSki> TAB completes a filename.,
[07:52] <strike4ce> LMAO
[07:52] <Hobbsee> hehehe...very useful that
[07:52] <Draconum> I don't know what todo from here.
[07:52] <strike4ce> sorry guys or girls?
[07:53] <Hobbsee> girl here
[07:53] <satafterh> what a good tool for divx2dvd?
[07:53] <Hobbsee> Draconum: you downloaded the breezy kubuntu cd, right?
[07:53] <Draconum> ... no
[07:53] <Draconum> am I supose to ?
[07:53] <Draconum> lol
[07:53] <Hobbsee> what'd you download, i dont think i was here early enough
[07:53] <Hobbsee> what are you trying to do lol
[07:53] <RyNSki> I miss the /trout command.
[07:54] <Hobbsee> oh darn!  it's not there!  i've not noticed it before
[07:54] <Draconum> I'm trying to get ubuntu switched with kubuntu
[07:54] <RyNSki> I guess there's a way to set an alias in this thing.
[07:54] <RyNSki> It's been awhile.
[07:54] <Hobbsee> Draconum: ok, so what'd you install?
[07:54] <RyNSki> The /trout command is in mIRC.
[07:54] <Hobbsee> ah...
[07:54] <RyNSki> If I recall correctly.
[07:54] <strike4ce> NUTS!
[07:54] <Hobbsee> this is konversation
[07:54] <RyNSki> As is this.
[07:54] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: what?
[07:54] <Draconum> I went to synaptic and installed the kubuntu-desktop thing from there...
[07:54] <strike4ce> no such file in directory
[07:54] <Draconum> now I don't know what todo
[07:55] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: are there any other debs on your desktop?
[07:55] <Hobbsee> Draconum: log out, hit session manager, pick kde
[07:55] <Draconum> ok
[07:55] <serge> Usb keys don't work in the Breezy final ?
[07:56] <RyNSki> Nope.
[07:56] <Hobbsee> usb keys should work...
[07:56] <Hobbsee> really?
[07:56] <Hobbsee> i thought i tried that
[07:56] <HillTop> USB failed for me too.
[07:56] <bjv> i doubt it?
[07:56] <RyNSki> I'd call it bull@#%t, but I still don't know if we swear in here. ;)
[07:56] <serge> Yes, key is mounted as /media/usbdisk, but Kde search /media/sda1
[07:56] <RyNSki> However, I think it's a KDE bug.
[07:56] <RyNSki> It looks in media:/sda1, different deal.
[07:57] <bjv> where did you hear they would not work?
[07:57] <Hobbsee> which kde are you using?
[07:57] <RyNSki> media:/ is supposed to know where it's going.
[07:57] <RyNSki> 3.4.3
[07:57] <Hobbsee> works here, 3.5 beta
[07:57] <serge> Before the final Brezzy, it's work fine.
[07:57] <bjv> they are just usb mass storage devices..
[07:57] <jagodragon> can any one help me with scanner trouble
[07:57] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: no debs
[07:57] <Hobbsee> media:/ finds it
[07:57] <RyNSki> 3.4.3 is broken.
[07:57] <RyNSki> 3.4.2 was good.
[07:57] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: then where'd you save the deb file that you downloaded?
[07:57] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: nothing's stopping you from upgrading to 3.5
[07:57] <Draconum> whoot
[07:57] <Draconum> I'm ahppy
[07:57] <RyNSki> The word Beta is stopping me. :)
[07:57] <Hobbsee> Draconum: :D
[07:57] <Draconum> and i like how it looks :D
[07:58] <Draconum> now..
[07:58] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: it's sounding like it works better than 3.4.3
[07:58] <Draconum> just to get my sound working
[07:58] <RyNSki> Oh, I felt the burn there.
[07:58] <RyNSki> LOL
[07:58] <strike4ce> hmmm should I have downloaded j2sdk1.5?
[07:58] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: it may be a beta, but it's been a very stable beta since it was released...
[07:58] <RyNSki> strike4ce: Nope. j2re.
[07:58] <Hobbsee> no, you should have gotten the jre
[07:58] <RyNSki> Java Runtime Environment.
[07:58] <kihaji> how come I cannot get any gui app to accept my root password, yet the commandline does
[07:58] <Hobbsee> Draconum: what type of soundcard do you have?
[07:58] <strike4ce> ok jus sec
[07:59] <RyNSki> Unless you're into Java coding... which pardon me, but from the sound of it... hehe. :)
[07:59] <Draconum> I have an onboard Creative 24-bit
[07:59] <serge> Kde 3.5 beta is perhaps stable, but it is not translated (i'm french).
[07:59] <Hobbsee> Draconum: in alsamixer (in konsole), are all the channels turned up
[07:59] <Draconum> I'll check
[07:59] <Hobbsee> serge: ah ok, that's a pity
[07:59] <Hobbsee> Draconum: after that, mute the inputs called line jack sense and headphone jack sense
[07:59] <Hobbsee> then try
[08:00] <RyNSki> How would I go about upgrading>?
[08:00] <Hobbsee> add the 3.5 reps to your sources list
[08:00] <Hobbsee> !3.5
[08:00] <ubotu> Hobbsee: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[08:00] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[08:00] <ubotu> methinks kde3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:00] <Hobbsee> back in a sec
[08:00] <RyNSki> That sounds like a good idea.
[08:00] <RyNSki> Is it almost out though
[08:00] <RyNSki> ?
[08:01] <RyNSki> ubotu: You're wrong.
[08:01] <ubotu> RyNSki: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:01] <strike4ce> Hobbsee:  do i need the first file or second?
[08:01] <strike4ce> second says update?
[08:02] <strike4ce> Why when i download does KATE open?
[08:02] <Hobbsee> back
[08:02] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: the link didnt work?
[08:03] <strike4ce> scroll up
[08:03] <jagodragon> try to dowload as tar and install manuslly
[08:03] <Hobbsee> yeah, but that's painful lol
[08:03] <RyNSki> Not the first one, no.
[08:03] <jagodragon> yes but works
[08:03] <RyNSki> It's a 404.
[08:03] <strike4ce> I get a warning that the file is a binary and saving it will result in a corrupt file???
[08:03] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[08:03] <ubotu> it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:04] <jagodragon> yes sam problem
[08:04] <Hobbsee> now...how do you change this bot...
[08:04] <Hobbsee> http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php is the correct link
[08:04] <strike4ce> why does kate open when I download that file???
[08:04] <strike4ce> jre
[08:04] <Hobbsee> !no, kde3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:05] <Hobbsee> bummer, that wasnt it
[08:05] <Draconum> err.. I can't find Alsamixer.
[08:05] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: is KATE supposed to open when I save a file?
[08:05] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: no
[08:05] <Hobbsee> what browser are you using to download the file?
[08:05] <RyNSki> ubotu: kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php
[08:05] <ubotu> ...but kde3.5 is already something else...
[08:05] <strike4ce> konqueror
[08:06] <Hobbsee> it should just save regardless, i thought
[08:06] <Hobbsee> if you've got another browser, try that instead
[08:06] <RyNSki> ubotu: You are still wrong. ;)
[08:06] <ubotu> RyNSki: I think you lost me on that one
[08:06] <RyNSki> !help
[08:06] <strike4ce> ok
[08:06] <kinfo> Available commands: !help, !uptime, !netuse, ??, !!, !cs, !whoset, !learn, !relearn, !forget, !topten, !status
[08:06] <Draconum> where do I find Alsamixer?
[08:07] <RyNSki> !mod kde3.5
[08:07] <Hobbsee> ubotu, kde 3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:07] <ubotu> RyNSki: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:07] <ubotu> Hobbsee: okay
[08:07] <Hobbsee> yay!
[08:07] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[08:07] <ubotu> hmm... kde3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:07] <dodo> aloooo
[08:07] <Hobbsee> bummer
[08:07] <RyNSki> You set something else.
[08:07] <Hobbsee> exactly
[08:07] <Hobbsee> it should have taken it
[08:07] <pussfeller> gah, konqy still opens links in freakin temp
[08:08] <pussfeller> why am i the only one that finds this intolerable
[08:08] <RyNSki> !mod kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php
[08:08] <ubotu> RyNSki: okay
[08:08] <RyNSki> !mod kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:08] <ubotu> ...but mod kde3.5 is already something else...
[08:08] <Hobbsee> asking nalioth - he knows how to do this stuff
[08:08] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: ok this time im using firefox
[08:08] <RyNSki> Oh hell.
[08:08] <RyNSki> Hehe.
[08:08] <Hobbsee> right
[08:08] <RyNSki> !del kde3.5
[08:08] <ubotu> RyNSki: Are you on ritalin?
[08:08] <strike4ce> whenever i open firefox i get some missing file warning ubuntu artwork?
[08:08] <RyNSki> LOL
[08:09] <RyNSki> strike4ce: Me too. I changed my start page.
[08:09] <Hobbsee> give us a second, and stop reprogramming the bot
[08:09] <Hobbsee> i got told how to do it...
[08:09] <Draconum> how do I get to Alsamixer?
[08:09] <Draconum> Anybody?
[08:10] <Hobbsee> Draconum: open a konsole
[08:10] <RyNSki> I was reading the help... <shrug> but it's not what I thought.
[08:10] <Hobbsee> type "alsamixer"
[08:10] <strike4ce> Hobbsee:  That was it konqueror was screwing it up
[08:10] <pussfeller> simce i upgraded my vts are gone
[08:10] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: i always use firefox, so i wouldnt know
[08:10] <pussfeller> alt+function does nothing
[08:10] <RyNSki> Hobbsee: The reason yours didn't work is that you didn't set kde3.5, you set kde 3.5
[08:10] <RyNSki> With a space.
[08:10] <Draconum> it says mixer elems not found
[08:10] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: it set it up do I need to do anything else?
[08:10] <RyNSki> Which was not already defined.
[08:11] <pussfeller> err cnt alt f
[08:11] <Draconum> Hoddsee: is says mixer elems not found.
[08:11] <strike4ce> what is a good torrent to use?
[08:11] <Hobbsee> ah...
[08:11] <Hobbsee> !forget kde 3.5
[08:11] <ubotu> i forgot kde 3.5, Hobbsee
[08:11] <kinfo> [kde]  is not defined
[08:11] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[08:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, kde3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:12] <Draconum> Mobbsee: it says mixer elems not found.
[08:12] <Hobbsee> !forget kde3.5
[08:12] <ubotu> Hobbsee: i forgot kde3.5
[08:12] <kinfo> [kde3.5]  is not defined
[08:12] <Hobbsee> it isnt now...
[08:12] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[08:12] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Hobbsee
[08:12] <Hobbsee> excellent
[08:12] <strike4ce> ok it said jre was set up am I done?
[08:12] <RyNSki> I've still got it in my buffer if you like.
[08:12] <Hobbsee> ubotu kde3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:12] <ubotu> okay, Hobbsee
[08:13] <Hobbsee> excellent
[08:13] <RyNSki> Word.
[08:13] <nalioth> !kde3.5
[08:13] <ubotu> well, kde3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67800
[08:13] <Hobbsee> thanks nalioth, i fixed it
[08:13] <nalioth> wonderful
[08:13] <Hobbsee> :)
[08:13] <RyNSki> I get an error actually.
[08:13] <RyNSki> When trying to update.
[08:13] <Hobbsee> what error?
[08:13] <RyNSki> GPG error.
[08:13] <nalioth> all entries into ubotu are logged by time and user
[08:14] <satafterh> kde 3.5 pretty stable?
[08:14] <nalioth> RyNSki: disregard the gpg error
[08:14] <Hobbsee> grab the key from that page as well
[08:14] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: it terminal says jre is setup do i need to go to adept now or is it installed?
[08:14] <Hobbsee> satafterh: yes
[08:14] <Hobbsee> no, it's installed, assuming you did dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:14] <RyNSki> Should I log off KDE first, you figure?
[08:14] <satafterh> #Hobbsee you using it?
[08:14] <strike4ce> yes
[08:14] <Hobbsee> satafterh: you bet
[08:14] <RyNSki> I'd imagine I should.
[08:14] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: when you do, you should reboot
[08:14] <Hobbsee> or there's some quicker way to do that, which i never remember
[08:14] <strike4ce> so the tab command finds the file name?
[08:15] <RyNSki> Here's one for you...
[08:15] <Hobbsee> and it's not ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:15] <RyNSki> My VC's don't work anymore.
[08:15] <satafterh> Hobbsee- long now youve had it?
[08:15] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: it'll complete the filename for you
[08:15] <Draconum> Hobbsee: When I type "alsamixer" in the konsole it says "no mixer elems found"
[08:15] <strike4ce> cool
[08:15] <RyNSki> I don't know since when... a day or two at max.
[08:15] <RyNSki> CTRL-ALT-F2... nothing there.
[08:15] <Hobbsee> satafterh: when was it released into beta on the kubuntu site again?  since then
[08:15] <strike4ce> What a good wifi manager I cant set up secure with kwifi it locks up
[08:16] <RyNSki> strike4ce: I've been using iwconfig on the command line because KWiFi is broken.
[08:16] <Hobbsee> Draconum: sounds like your sound didnt get configured at all then...wonder what the command is to check
[08:16] <strike4ce> someone said wireless assistant
[08:16] <bjv> i dont understand, if i have to create /etc/apt/apt.conf..
[08:16] <bjv> then where was ubuntu getting it's configs before?
[08:16] <RyNSki> bjv: What are you talking about?
[08:16] <RyNSki> bjv: The sources file?
[08:16] <RyNSki> Or actually apt.conf?
[08:16] <Hobbsee> bjv: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d in that folder?
[08:16] <bjv> RyNSki: no the apt.conf
[08:17] <Hobbsee> there should already be a file there
[08:17] <RyNSki> It probably has defaults.
[08:17] <bjv> i see 2 files, when i cat them they just have short strange gobblty-gook.
[08:17] <RyNSki> Oh...
[08:17] <RyNSki> bjv: There an apt.conf.d
[08:17] <RyNSki> It's not a file, it's a dir.
[08:18] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: VC's not working any more?  what are vc's?
[08:18] <RyNSki> Virtual consoles.
[08:18] <Hobbsee> checked the shortcuts in system settings?
[08:18] <RyNSki> Me?
[08:19] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: yep
[08:19] <RyNSki> No, not what I'm talking about... here...
[08:19] <Draconum> this is bugging me
[08:19] <RyNSki> Know that to get back it's going to be ALT-F7, if you don't do this normally.
[08:19] <RyNSki> But try CTRL-ALT-F1.
[08:19] <Hobbsee> ctrl alt f1 is giving me tty1, ie console 1
[08:19] <RyNSki> It will bring you to a text console if your machine isn't broken like mine. Mine brings me to a blank screen.
[08:19] <Hobbsee> ctrl alt f7 goes back to GUI for this
[08:20] <RyNSki> tty1 = console1 = VC.
[08:20] <RyNSki> Yeah.
[08:20] <Hobbsee> ah
[08:20] <grobi> kann mir jemand sagen wieso sich die laufwerke auf dem desktop nicht ffnen lassen?
[08:20] <RyNSki> Mine don't work. Nothing on 1-6.
[08:20] <Hobbsee> !de
[08:20] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[08:21] <Hobbsee> grobi: enschuldigung, ich nicht spreke gut deutsch!
[08:21] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: i wonder why...
[08:21] <Hobbsee> and i'm sure i spelt entschuldigung wrong, along with the rest of it
[08:21] <RyNSki> Pretty screwed up.
[08:21] <RyNSki> I can run it by hand.
[08:21] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:22] <RyNSki> But I'm in runlevel 2 and init has the getty's defined for level 2.
[08:22] <Hobbsee> Draconum: for the sound, ask on #ubuntu, they usually can tell you
[08:22] <Hobbsee> seeing as there are more people ther
[08:22] <Hobbsee> ooh, it's quiet there!  only 281 people!
[08:23] <Hobbsee> used to seeing 600 +, after the past few days...
[08:23] <nalioth> Hobbsee: you were not in #ubuntu when freenode got pwnd?
[08:24] <Draconum> ok
[08:25] <Hobbsee> nalioth: perhaps not, i wasnt here yesterday
[08:25] <Hobbsee> why, what happened?
[08:25] <nalioth> somebody got access to freenode and took over #debian, #ubuntu, and other large channels
[08:26] <Hobbsee> ouch!
[08:26] <nalioth> dumped everyone out of the channels
[08:26] <Hobbsee> nope, wasnt there for that
[08:26] <nalioth> that's why there are so few people in #ubuntu
[08:26] <Hobbsee> double ouch
[08:26] <jagodragon> can any one help me with a scanner problem
[08:26] <Hobbsee> ah...cos they're usually in there idle
[08:29] <brosioz> how could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ?
[08:30] <strike4ce> Do I have to keep that jre that I downloaded to desktop once it is installed?
[08:31] <strike4ce> on desktop?
[08:31] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: nope, you can delete it :)
[08:31] <Hobbsee> it's just an install file, it does nothing else
[08:33] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: what does this mean?
[08:33] <strike4ce> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:33] <strike4ce> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:33] <Hobbsee> you can ignore it, i think
[08:33] <Hobbsee> the keys have been stuffed parts of the times in other days
[08:34] <Hobbsee> just run sudo apt-get upgrade after it, and it'll be fine
[08:35] <strike4ce> Hobbsee:  could it be that I added a new source to sourcelist?
[08:35] <Hobbsee> which did you add?
[08:36] <strike4ce> deb ftp://ftp.real-time.com/linux/real-time-debpool sarge custom
[08:36] <strike4ce> deb-src ftp://ftp.real-time.com/linux/real-time-debpool sarge custom
[08:37] <Hobbsee> it's generally a bad idea to add the sarge reps
[08:37] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: I put those in reposotories and then applied and ran adept.  No file
[08:37] <Hobbsee> much safer to just download teh particular deb you want, and install it manually
[08:37] <strike4ce> ok
[08:37] <strike4ce> package?
[08:38] <Hobbsee> yeah, the particular deb/ particular package
[08:38] <bjv> YES!  i stopped apt-get from running 2 parallel downloads.
[08:38] <bjv> winnar.
[08:39] <helpme> there is no kubuntu unofficial gaq for breezy:(
[08:39] <helpme> there is no kubuntu unofficial faq for breezy:(
[08:40] <labkom> fgjf
[08:40] <Hobbsee> helpme: you can use most of the ubuntu faq
[08:40] <Hobbsee> !kubuntufaq
[08:40] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Are you on ritalin?
[08:40] <helpme> !kubuntufaq
[08:40] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, helpme
[08:41] <Hobbsee> !faq
[08:41] <ubotu> I guess faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[08:41] <helpme> :(
[08:41] <Hobbsee> use that...
[08:41] <RyNSki> BRB.
[08:42] <helpme> single page version of faq??
[08:42] <helpme> !avidemux info
[08:42] <ubotu> helpme: Are you on ritalin?
[08:42] <Hobbsee> as in the ubuntuguide?
[08:43] <helpme> !info avidemux
[08:43] <Hobbsee> !avidemux
[08:43] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Hobbsee
[08:43] <strike4ce> damn Im missing some files so it wouldnt install wireless assistant
[08:43] <Hobbsee> which files are you missing?
[08:44] <helpme> !info blast2
[08:44] <ubotu> blast2: (Basic Local Alignment Search Tool), section universe/science, is optional. Version: 1:<IP_ADDRESS>50429-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 269 kB, Installed size: 868 kB
[08:44] <Hobbsee> and have you tried "sudo apt-get install nameoffilehere"?
[08:45] <strike4ce> wlassistant depends on libidn11 (>= 0.5.18); however:
[08:45] <strike4ce>   Version of libidn11 on system is 0.5.13-1.0.
[08:45] <helpme> !info acidrip
[08:45] <ubotu> acidrip: (ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.14-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 53 kB, Installed size: 276 kB
[08:46] <Hobbsee> you've done a sudo apt-get update and a sudo apt-get upgrade?
[08:46] <strike4ce> I upgraded lastnight the new version
[08:46] <helpme> Hobbsee: r u asking me?
[08:46] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: is that file old?
[08:46] <Hobbsee> no, was asking strike4ce
[08:47] <strike4ce> no not asking just stating sorry
[08:47] <strike4ce> maybe that version wont work with 5.10
[08:47] <Hobbsee> it should have auto updated to whatever the latest version is
[08:48] <novosirj> Excellent.
[08:48] <jagodragon> how can i make my system use my scanner?
[08:49] <RyNSki> I've upgraded to KDE 3.5
[08:49] <strike4ce> what is apt-get -f install?
[08:49] <RyNSki> The problem went away.
[08:50] <RyNSki> Well, 3.4.9blahblah.
[08:50] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: yay :D
[08:50] <Hobbsee> they often call them 3.4.999 etc while they're still a beta
[08:50] <RyNSki> Yeah.
[08:50] <RyNSki> Makes sense.
[08:50] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: i think it's a force install, check in a console
[08:50] <Hobbsee> ie apt-get install -help
[08:50] <strike4ce> it said I may want to do that
[08:51] <Hobbsee> ah
[08:51] <Hobbsee> yeah, you could
[08:51] <Hobbsee> not sure if it's a good idea though
[08:51] <RyNSki> If you're a newb, you probably don't want to do that.
[08:51] <strike4ce> says it will free up 389kb
[08:51] <strike4ce> lol
[08:51] <RyNSki> Only if you're certain of what you're doing.
[08:51] <RyNSki> The deps are there to protect you.
[08:52] <Hobbsee> RyNSki: so true
[08:52] <helpme> which repos do i add for libdvdcss2, mp3 etc.??
[08:52] <strike4ce> ohh it wants to reove wireless assistant
[08:52] <strike4ce> remove
[08:52] <labkom> jkljkl
[08:52] <strike4ce> 1 to remove it says
[08:52] <Hobbsee> !tell helpme about w32codecs
[08:53] <Hobbsee> read that page, and it'll tlel you about the rest
[08:53] <strike4ce> who me?
[08:53] <RyNSki> !w32codecs
[08:53] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, to install Windows audio/video codecs (w32codecs) see Codecs and DVD-Video at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:55] <strike4ce> RyNSki: ok all it did was remove wla assistant
[08:55] <strike4ce> what the hell is a gpg error
[08:55] <Hobbsee> !gpg
[08:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, gpg is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[08:56] <strike4ce> When I do apt-get update I get that error?
[08:56] <Hobbsee> post the full error?
[08:56] <strike4ce> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:57] <Hobbsee> you should be able to ignore it, assumign it's from the ubuntu repositories, which it is
[08:57] <strike4ce> Hobbsee:  How do i know if I have the latest version?
[08:58] <Toma-> is anyone elses control center all messed up in breezy?
[08:58] <Hobbsee> adept should tell you...
[08:58] <RyNSki> Toma-: Meaning exactly what?
[08:58] <Hobbsee> Toma-: what do you define as messed up?
[08:59] <Toma-> opening a thing like "Colours" pops up in the window, but it too big for the window and it doesnt get resized...
[08:59] <RyNSki> Oh. No.
[08:59] <Toma-> ill take a screenshot. it totally sux
[08:59] <Hobbsee> Toma-: you can use alt
[08:59] <Hobbsee> and move the window around that way
[08:59] <Toma-> hang on it working....
[08:59] <Toma-> brb, buggin
[08:59] <brosioz> how could i purge all conf file of a packege that i've alredy remove ?
[09:00] <helpme> the wiki u gave seems to be for hoary...will it work on breezy?
[09:00] <strike4ce> I have KDE 3.4.3
[09:00] <Toma-> weird! its working. must be the good vibes fom here :D
[09:00] <Hobbsee> helpme: which wiki was this?
[09:00] <Hobbsee> oh that
[09:00] <Hobbsee> yeah, should work
[09:00] <strike4ce> is that the newest Hobbsee  KDE 3.4.3?
[09:01] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: yes, unless you wanted the beta
[09:02] <strike4ce> why does adept load upgrades when I fetch?  I thought the uprades were installed?
[09:02] <kaand> riddle me this: my sound worked in a knoppix livecd but not a MEPIS live cd. it worked in hoary and warty but not breezy. what is wrong?
[09:02] <Hobbsee> they were, but there's probably more updates
[09:02] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: Beta LOL IM barely hanging on here
[09:02] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: lol
[09:03] <Hobbsee> kaand: any idea what the solution was?  Riddell seems to be idle
[09:03] <strike4ce> So even though they're installed it will keep fetching the same ones and committing them?
[09:03] <Hobbsee> shouldnt do, maybe they werent installed
[09:04] <kaand> i have no idea
[09:04] <kaand> the knoppix i was using was the one that came with the knoppix hacks book
[09:04] <kaand> but i've been spending the last several days trying to get sound working in breezy
[09:05] <strike4ce> RyNSki: can I ask a question?
[09:06] <RyNSki> strike4ce: Sure.
[09:07] <strike4ce> ok i fetch in adept they all say 100% then the commit button and full upgrade button are highlighted. Is this right?
[09:08] <RyNSki> Sounds OK to me, but what are you upgrading?
[09:08] <strike4ce> RyNSki: nothing that I know of just did fetch
[09:08] <RyNSki> Oh... OK.
[09:08] <RyNSki> Yeah, that's fine.
[09:08] <RyNSki> Probably some minor updates.
[09:08] <strike4ce> RyNSki:  why does it do it everytime?
[09:09] <RyNSki> What does it do every time
[09:09] <RyNSki> ?
[09:09] <kaand> help :(
[09:09] <RyNSki> kaand: With what?
[09:09] <strike4ce> it fetches and then the commit lights up and the full upgrade button
[09:10] <RyNSki> Well, do the commit.
[09:10] <kaand> vexing sound problem that i've been tackling for days
[09:10] <RyNSki> Oh.
[09:10] <RyNSki> What's the matter?
[09:10] <strike4ce> I do and then the fetch button stays on and if I hit it again it does the same process over
[09:11] <kaand> no sound at all since breezy. but knoppix and hoary had sound
[09:11] <kaand> from what i can see on lspci and lsmod, it looks like my card is detected and everything
[09:11] <kaand> but just not working
[09:11] <RyNSki> strike4ce: Doesn't matter.
[09:12] <kaand> i recently tried recompiling alsa but that didn't fix it either
[09:12] <RyNSki> Where, in KDE?
[09:12] <strike4ce> RyNSki:  ok I do it from kynaptic and it states im up to date
[09:12] <RyNSki> I'm guessing that's where sound is broken?
[09:13] <RyNSki> What were you using before?
[09:13] <kaand> i was using kubuntu in hoary too
[09:13] <kaand> although i started out with gnome
[09:13] <RyNSki> I meant strike4ce, but... sure... OK. :)
[09:13] <kaand> this is a fresh install, though
[09:13] <strike4ce> I tried the new adept
[09:13] <RyNSki> What does the sound config say in KDE?
[09:14] <kaand> ack, too many sound problems :(
[09:14] <RyNSki> Look under hardware someplace.
[09:15] <strike4ce> RyNSki: what is residual config files?
[09:15] <strike4ce> !residual
[09:15] <ubotu> strike4ce: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[09:15] <strike4ce> lol
[09:16] <strike4ce> RyNSki: Why does firefox in the address bar it looks really small?
[09:16] <_andrea> Error - Konqueror: Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink' - trying another one / Can't Init Video Driver 'xvimagesink' - trying another one / No usable video driver found! (xvimagesink)
[09:18] <_andrea> !alsasink
[09:18] <ubotu> _andrea: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:19] <strike4ce> RyNSki: Why does firefox in the address bar it looks really small?
[09:23] <RyNSki> Sorry.
[09:23] <RyNSki> I was AFK.
[09:24] <RyNSki> I dunno... looks fine to me.
[09:24] <RyNSki> And I dunno what residual configs it's talking about.
[09:24] <RyNSki> I mean, it is small... but...
[09:25] <strike4ce> ok what about the Firefox?  The address bar looks really small
[09:26] <RyNSki> Didn't I just say "looks fine to me, I dunno, it's small, but..."
[09:26] <RyNSki> Pretty sure. :)
[09:28] <strike4ce> fonts are all different then windows version
[09:28] <shogouki> RyNSki: thats women say to me everytime
[09:28] <strike4ce> lol
[09:29] <RyNSki> LOL
[09:29] <RyNSki> Poor guy.
[09:30] <shogouki> strike4ce: are you talking about url bar ?
[09:32] <RyNSki> AH, I remembered what I want Java for.
[09:33] <RyNSki> irate.
[09:33] <shogouki> you may need it for ooo2 too
[09:37] <strike4ce> shogouki:  YES!
[09:37] <strike4ce> 0002?
[09:38] <shogouki> strike4ce: maybe you can set its size by putting a line in userchrome.css
[09:38] <shogouki> Ooo2
[09:38] <kaand> i wonder if i should just do a fresh install of hoary, then dist-upgrade to breezy
[09:39] <kaand> this sound thing is pissing me off
[09:39] <strike4ce> shogouki:  How do i access chrome?
[09:39] <_andrea> Error - Konqueror: Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink' - trying another one / Can't Init Video Driver 'xvimagesink' - trying another one / No usable video driver found! (xvimagesink)
[09:40] <_andrea> help?
[09:40] <strike4ce> the fonts therev is no times new roman or arial, or courier new
[09:41] <strike4ce> shogouki: how do i get to chrome?
[09:41] <shogouki> strike4ce: dont remember, search userchrome on google, and put #urlbar{width:400px !important} in it, restart firefox and tell me if it works
[09:42] <_andrea> i need my windows fonts too
[09:42] <_andrea> msttcorefonts
[09:42] <_andrea> but i cant find it
[09:44] <strike4ce> shogouki:  nope didnt work
[09:45] <shogouki> strike4ce: and with *{background:red  !important} ?
[09:45] <strike4ce> shogouki: lol
[09:45] <shogouki> try
[09:47] <strike4ce> shogouki:  does nothing
[09:47] <shogouki> you have a pb with your file, try to fix it
[09:48] <strike4ce> pb?
[09:50] <_andrea> i cant access my windows drives
[09:50] <_andrea> help!
[09:50] <aftertaf> !windowsdrives
[09:50] <ubotu> I heard windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:52] <fatejudger1> is dist-upgrade and installing the new breezy iso the same thing?
[09:52] <fatejudger1> or is dist-upgrade more cluttered
[09:52] <fatejudger1> I have the CD, so I can do either
[09:54] <_andrea> i installed breezy from scratch...but i think out-of-the-box stuff was smoother on Hoary
[09:54] <_andrea> i'm having loads of troubles setting my system up :(
[09:55] <_andreas> Hi, is there a bug with usplash and vga=791?
[10:01] <aftertaf> fatejudger1, same thing, unless newer pkgs on repository...
[10:01] <_andreas> Hi, is there a bug with usplash and vga=791?
[10:02] <_labkom> oh my god
[10:03] <_labkom> please help meeee
[10:08] <Toma-> _labkom: whats the problem?
[10:08] <Toma-> _labkom_: whats the problem?
[10:10] <xxenon> do you think I could backup my .kde , install 5.10 and restore it ? (Im using KDE 3.4.2 now)
[10:11] <somez> guys I have a terrible problem after upgrading to kubuntu 5.10
[10:11] <somez> my X won't start anymore :-(
[10:11] <somez> and I don't know what to do now
[10:11] <platoali> i had the same problem
[10:12] <platoali> my x does not start
[10:12] <somez> I added the kubuntu cdrom via synaptic
[10:12] <hornsby> do apt-get upgrade again
[10:12] <somez> and installed the packages
[10:12] <_andrea> do u use nvidia?
[10:12] <platoali> i think you should do sudo apt-get install xserver-core
[10:12] <_andrea> somez: do u use an nvidia card?
[10:12] <hornsby> sometimes it get stuck during upgrade
[10:12] <somez> hornsby, apt-get upgrade finds no repository :-
[10:12] <platoali> an couple of other packages
[10:12] <platoali> that related to some x font
[10:12] <somez> _andrea, ati, but I changed back my driver to ati in xorg conf
[10:12] <somez> no effect
[10:13] <_andrea> try vesa
[10:13] <somez> platoali, I get some kind of error like that too
[10:13] <somez> _andrea, ok
[10:13] <_andrea> if vesa works
[10:13] <hornsby> somez, what is your sources.list look like ?
[10:13] <_andrea> then install ati driver from repository
[10:13] <somez> hornsby, it contains the hoary repositoris
[10:14] <platoali> somez: i've fixed it with the install ing some xserver-core package
[10:14] <somez> how did you install them?
[10:14] <hornsby> and you can't  hit them right
[10:14] <somez> yes
[10:14] <somez> my internet connection is also not working
[10:14] <somez> don't know why
[10:15] <platoali> somez: and sudo apt-get install xfont-base
[10:15] <hornsby> did you try restarting the computer itself ? or sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[10:15] <somez> yes i restarted the computer
[10:15] <platoali> somez: sorry sudo apt-get install xfonts-base
[10:16] <somez> it don't find the package
[10:17] <platoali> which one?
[10:17] <platoali> xfonts-base
[10:17] <platoali> ?
[10:17] <somez> yes
[10:18] <platoali> I've download them from the net
[10:18] <platoali> this system is an upgrade
[10:18] <somez> i have it on the cd
[10:18] <somez> my net is not working
[10:18] <nxv_> whats wrong with kaffeine? i can scan for dvbt tv stations but they remain grey an i cant use them
[10:19] <hornsby> somez, for x trouble try : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:19] <somez> I tried it, no effect
[10:20] <hornsby> what is the error message when you type xstart in the console ?
[10:20] <platoali> try to install these packages: x-window-system-core
[10:20] <platoali> and xfonts-base
[10:20] <somez> how can I add the install cd to the repos?
[10:21] <hornsby> somez, just to be sure, when you upgraded, you changed the repositories and did dist-upgrade right ?
[10:21] <somez> I only added the install cd to the repos
[10:21] <somez> but the wiki says after rebooting, I must add the install cd again
[10:23] <somez> I installed those two packags
[10:23] <hornsby> somez, do you have any error message to make the task easier ??
[10:23] <somez> but X won't start
[10:23] <somez> yes, wait a sec
[10:23] <somez> could not open default font "dixed"
[10:23] <somez> fixed
[10:23] <somez> it says my font path must be wrong
[10:24] <somez> or the fonts are not installed
[10:24] <hornsby> seems like you should regenerate the fonts
[10:24] <somez> great, how can I do that?
[10:24] <hornsby> somez, i don't remember, i check  it :)
[10:25] <somez> ok, thanks :-
[10:25] <robin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyReleaseComments <= interesting, and true.
[10:26] <hornsby> did you try installing xfonts-base and xfonts-utils
[10:26] <hornsby> ?
[10:26] <somez> only base
[10:26] <hornsby> ok
[10:26] <hornsby> and xserver-common too ?
[10:26] <somez> I installed the utils too
[10:26] <somez> I must do them manually with dpkg, because my install cd is not in the sources.lst
[10:27] <robin_2> What is the short-cut to get in the google search box in konqueror (like ctrl+k does in firefox) ?
[10:28] <Wes> hi
[10:28] <somez> the problem is, that X doesn't find the default font
[10:28] <somez> how can I solve this?
[10:29] <hornsby> somez, change the font lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from:
[10:29] <hornsby>
[10:29] <hornsby>  /usr/lib/X11/fonts/*
[10:29] <hornsby>
[10:29] <hornsby>  to
[10:29] <hornsby>
[10:29] <hornsby>  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/*
[10:29] <somez> ok
[10:29] <Wes> i just got my tv tuner card working and i cant figure out how to get the audio working
[10:30] <Wes> the tv card outputs to my input on my sound card
[10:30] <somez> hornsby, my xorg.conf already has these lines
[10:30] <Wes> but nothing i have tried so far makes it work
[10:30] <somez> :-(
[10:30] <somez> maybe I must install a specifyc font package_
[10:31] <somez> but wich one?
[10:31] <platoali> did you install xfonts-base
[10:31] <somez> yes
[10:32] <hornsby> somez,  what does the section "Files" look like in your xorg.conf ?
[10:32] <somez> rgppath
[10:32] <somez> some fonts path
[10:32] <somez> and that is all
[10:33] <somez> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local"
[10:33] <somez> etc
[10:33] <hornsby> somez, check that link, you might find something usefull there, by the end of the post : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-35143.html
[10:34] <somez> ok thanks
[10:35] <Wes> does anyone know what i would have to do to get the audio input on an nforce2 chipset to work?
[10:38] <hornsby> somez, try that apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base
[10:39] <hornsby> somez, and then /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:40] <somez> ok, I solved the problem
[10:40] <somez> the fonts were on a wrong place
[10:41] <somez> so I copied them according to xorg.conf
[10:42] <somez> thanks for the help guys
[10:42] <hornsby> somez, instead of moving, create symbolic links, but glad you solved it
[10:45] <cave> Hello again... Just completed installation :)
[10:45] <quby> please help! I have an integrated nvidia nforc2 soundstorm soundcard, the sub and the center don't work! any idea?
[10:47] <robin_2> hmm synaptic give the following error:
[10:47] <robin_2> W: GPG error: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:47] <robin_2> what does it mean ?
[10:47] <_sam> Is it safe to remove ubuntu-desktop now if I have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[10:47] <crimsun> _sam: it's always safe. You just might find it unbearable later.
[10:48] <hornsby> ubuntu-destop is a meta package, safe to remove
[10:48] <_sam> So removing a meta package won't remove the packages that it "links" to?
[10:48] <hornsby> nop
[10:49] <_sam> I see
[10:49] <cave> Can anyone help me, how do i mount my hard drives?
[10:51] <robin_2> cave: what kind of partition windows ntfs ?
[10:51] <cave> i got one fat32  (on the same hard disk, different partition) and a NTFS on a sepparate hard disk
[10:52] <robin_2> cave you know which device file ? (/dev/hda etc.. )
[10:53] <cave> Win fat32 is HDA1, Kubuntu is HDA2, WIn NTFS is HDB
[10:53] <robin_2> you could add this to /etc/fstab (replace /dev/hda5 with the correct ntfs partition) /dev/hda5       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,user,umask=000       0       0
[10:54] <somez_> re all
[10:54] <somez_> I have another problem, my ethernet card is not working anymore
[10:54] <robin_2> It will mount the ntfs partition automatically evertime you reboot, and every user got read permission on it.
[10:54] <somez_> and I cant bring up eth1
[10:54] <somez_> because it says no such device
[10:54] <cave> eek... no permission to read hda5
[10:54] <elvirolo> hi all
[10:54] <somez_> how can I solve this?
[10:54] <robin_2> you can't write (yet) to hda5
[10:55] <elvirolo> how do i enable musicbrainz support in amarok ?
[10:55] <robin_2> Cave eh ntfs i mean.
[10:55] <hornsby> somez_, ifconfig ??
[10:55] <robin_2> cave yes of course you got read permission, it is umask..
[10:55] <somez_> ifconfig eth1 won't work
[10:56] <hornsby> is the device eth1 ??
[10:56] <cave> ok i got the file open
[10:56] <somez_> yes
[10:56] <hornsby> sometimes it get mixed up during upgrade
[10:56] <cave> will i get kicked for flooding if i paste it to the channel? :P
[10:56] <somez_> my desktop has tow ethernet cards
[10:56] <robin_2> Cave yes see topic
[10:56] <somez_> and it worked on hoary
[10:56] <cave> ok
[10:56] <somez_> now I can only bring up eth0
[10:56] <robin_2> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/ <= paste here
[10:57] <hornsby> did you edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:57] <somez_> yes
[10:57] <hornsby> does it look ok ?
[10:57] <somez_> auto eth1 inet dhcp
[10:57] <elvirolo> please, ideas anyone ?
[10:57] <somez_> I have a broadband router here
[10:57] <somez_> wich runs a dhcp
[10:57] <hornsby> ok
[10:57] <robin_2> elvirolo: what'sup
[10:57] <somez_> so it should work, but the problem is that I can't bring eht1 up
[10:58] <elvirolo> i'd like to hace musicbrainz support in amarok
[10:58] <somez_> it says i dont have such a device
[10:58] <cave> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/394246
[10:58] <Wes> is audio input passed to the output by default? (i.e. mic, line in, etc)
[10:58] <hornsby> if you put down eth0, does eth1 comes up ?
[10:58] <somez_> but according to lspci, the system finds my two ethernet cards
[10:58] <somez_> i try that
[10:59] <somez_> no
[10:59] <hornsby> maybe, eth1 is not enabled. Go to KDE ->settings -> network settings -> admin mode -> enable eth1
[10:59] <somez_> ok
[11:00] <robin_2> cave yes ? well add the rule I pasted here :)
[11:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about repositories
[11:01] <robin_2> cave http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/394251
[11:01] <neptune3k> for those interested : Yakuake has been updated
[11:02] <cave> oh, add a new line?
[11:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about hoary-extras
[11:02] <cave> i tought i was supposed to replace the other line
[11:02] <robin_2> neptune3k: I just installed it from apt.. great program !
[11:03] <somez_> hmm strange
[11:03] <somez_> I have eth2
[11:03] <somez_> instead of eth1
[11:03] <somez_> now I'm enabling it
[11:03] <somez_> it takes time
[11:03] <cave> cant save the file
[11:04] <cocozz> hi
[11:04] <cocozz> ur distro rocks ;-)
[11:04] <cave> should have logged on as root right? ;/
[11:04] <hornsby> somez_, any good ?
[11:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about java