[20:57] <Xavura> It's Text Editor/GEdit, I can't find it
[20:57] <Xavura> drhawks685: Ubuntu
[20:58] <hansemann> anyone have a clue why my new laptop battery wont charge?
[20:58] <brad> hi, having some problems installing ubuntu on a new system. when it tries to start up the partition thing (just get a quick glimpse), the system just shuts down
[20:58] <OB1FoShoB> pbp: sudo dmidecode
[20:59] <adrace1> has any one problem with freezing in ubuntu ? it stuck and nothing helps but reset.
[20:59] <BlackRece> /jon #apache
[20:59] <OB1FoShoB> pbp: been looking for a gui equiv with little luck, that tells a lot though from terminal
[21:00] <Hybrid666> hi, i got a little problem with ubuntu 8.04, im using the live CD atm, but gnome is completly drawn with green colors and the resolution is very low. i got AMD X2 3800+ Socket 939 and ATI X1950Pro
[21:00] <cliff_> yea no luck
[21:01] <Hybrid666> can anyone help? id like to install ubuntu on this machine, but with this error its no good
[21:03] <dimedo> hey there, i can't paste my passphrase into the seahorse passphrase window for gpg, can i somehow disable seahorse so that the application ask by themselves for the passphrase?
[21:04] <OB1FoShoB> pbp: try... sudo apt-get install gnome-device manager       ... gnome-device-manger    to run       :-)
[21:04] <OB1FoShoB> php: gnome-device-manager
[21:05] <Xavura> Everyone: what's the path to GEDit/Text Editor on Ubuntu
[21:05] <Xavura> I need to add it as a default editor for something
[21:06] <Hybrid666> hi, i got a little problem with ubuntu 8.04, im using the live CD atm, but gnome is completly drawn with green colors and the resolution is very low. i got AMD X2 3800+ Socket 939 and ATI X1950Pro
[21:06] <tritium> Xavura: to find out, type "which gedit"
[21:06] <Xavura> here?
[21:06] <tritium> Xavura: no, at the command line
[21:07] <vol> Hi, I'm trying to use aptitude to search for the standard c++ documentation. Man pages for strcpy and the like. Can anyone suggest which package I need to download with apt-get?
[21:07] <ks> why vnc service runs locally, but telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 5900  has telnet: connect to address <IP_ADDRESS>: Connection refused ?
[21:07] <tritium> vol: manpages-dev
[21:07] <_2> hello   i am presently using kooka for scanner interface but it is not configurable enough, i can not close the image window and that slows it down considerably,  what is the gtk eq. of kooka please ?
[21:08] <th0r> ks....the first vnc instance is 5901
[21:08] <vol> tritium: Thank you!
[21:08] <ks> th0r:  hm thanks, what do I read on such type of errors ?
[21:09] <malex> I'm somewhat confused by the difference between linux-image-386 and linux-image-generic (x86/x86_64). Which of these two images is better suited for the Intel Core2Duo cpu?
[21:09] <DeFirence> how can i make a bash script run when a ppp connection is connected? and i need to bash script to know the ppp connection's name
[21:09] <th0r> ks you can start with the man page for vncserver
[21:10] <ks> th0r:  makes sense
[21:10] <JASONCO> hi folks -- im using fluxbox on hardy - - when i try to start nautilus -- i get the following error -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/23846/  any ideas?
[21:10] <Stormx2> malex: -386 always gave me issues.
[21:10] <th0r> ks you cannot set up a vncserver on display 0 as that is the local display. But you can use 1-6...so you can start the server with 'vncserver:1' or :2. etc
[21:11] <_phoenix_> hey
[21:11] <mcfly_> re _phoenix_
[21:11] <th0r> ks if you start it with :1 you connect to 5901, :2 - 5902, etc.
[21:11] <_2> is there an equivalent to kooka ?
[21:11] <th0r> ks and web interface is, if I remember correctly, 5801, 5802, etc
[21:12] <ks> th0r:  thanks a lot, i didn't know about web interface
[21:12] <th0r> ks it is all old info so I might be wrong...I use NX from nomachine.com as it seems faster than vnc
[21:13] <Xavura> err
[21:13] <Xavura> /usr/bin/gedit is NOT the path to my GEdit, so where is it :S
[21:13]  * _2 is very ignorable
[21:13] <McChic> Anybody help me with fonts?
[21:13] <ks> th0r: well, i just have to debug tightvnc applet against local install of piece of software
[21:14] <McChic> Nautilus says fonts:// doesn't exist
[21:14] <th0r> ks if you are running vnc locally you should be able to start it with 'vncserver:1' then connect to 'localhost:5901'
[21:14] <_2> Xavura is gnome installed ?
[21:14] <Xavura> Yup
[21:14] <Xavura> I should think so
[21:15] <FlyingWV> Xavura, I think you can open a terminal window and type whereis gedit, should list the paths
[21:15] <ks> th0r:  ok
[21:15] <Xavura> That gives me gedit: /usr/bin/gedit /usr/lib/gedit /usr/share/man/man1/gedit.1.gz
[21:16] <Xavura> Then in FireFTP I put for open files in, /usr/bin/gedit and it doesn't work
[21:16] <_2> Xavura and FlyingWV in the event you don't use slocate "which" is always handy for finding the address of things in your path.
[21:16] <Stormx2> Xavura: The path involving "bin" is the executable.
[21:16] <BuFF> whick keyboard button goes forward on opera browser ?
[21:16] <FlyingWV> Thank you, I'm very new myself, trying to use mostly the terminal but it's a learning process
[21:17] <Stormx2> BuFF, just check the documentation.
[21:17] <hccmb> wich video codec will give the same high quality video as theora ogg?
[21:17] <djouallah> how to desactivate compiz
[21:17] <Xavura> Ok, what command line arguments do I need to put to get this to work (Fire FTP to open files)
[21:17] <adracek> did anybody write me?
[21:18] <_2> Xavura and FlyingWV example;  which which
[21:18] <JASONCO> hi folks -- im using fluxbox on hardy - - when i try to start nautilus -- i get the following error -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/23846/  any ideas?
[21:18] <Sonja> how can i remotely connect to my Ubuntu documents if I'm on a computer far away?
[21:18] <Xavura> it started working now
[21:18] <dholloway> hey guys i have sum error
[21:18] <dholloway> but dont know how to fix
[21:18] <dholloway> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:18] <dholloway>  sun-java5-bin
[21:18] <dholloway>  sun-java5-plugin
[21:18] <FloodBot1> dholloway: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:18] <moo_cow> xorg with nvidia stopped working after an xorg upgrade. is this a known problem?
[21:18] <dholloway> every thime
[21:18] <_2> so anyone know of a scanner interface ?
[21:18] <madmn> does anyone know the line to fix gcc
[21:18] <tritium> madmn: fix it?
[21:19] <gordonjcp> madmn: "fix"?
[21:19] <madmn> well upgrade it my gcc doesn't work
[21:19] <Hybrid666> hi, my screen is green! argh! wanna use ubuntu, its like youve plugged in only the green cable at an old RGB screen. help pls!
[21:19] <tritium> madmn: you need to be more specific
[21:19] <snap|l3thal> i cant seem to get wine to uninstall via command line
[21:19] <tritium> !doesntwork | madmn
[21:19] <ubott2> madmn: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[21:20] <hansemann_> anyone know a good pc support irc server/channel?
[21:20] <madmn> checking for gcc... gcc
[21:20] <madmn> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[21:20] <madmn> thats my error
[21:20] <snap|l3thal> i cant seem to get wine to uninstall via command line. could anyone help me out on this?
[21:21] <mercutio22> Hello
[21:21] <hansemann_> anyone know a good pc/laptop support channel?
[21:21] <tritium> madmn: install build-essential
[21:21] <_2> madmn install build-essential
[21:21] <mercutio22> I got a broken package I can't seem to remove: http://www.pastebin.ca/1059388
[21:21] <RainCT> snap|l3thal: uninstall wine or uninstall something that you installed with wine?
[21:21] <snap|l3thal> uninstall wine itself
[21:22] <RainCT> snap|l3thal: sudo apt-get remove wine
[21:22] <mercutio22> anyone's got an idea?
[21:22] <moo_cow> !nvidia
[21:22] <ubott2> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:22] <pub> where do the images go after using imagemagick
[21:22] <snap|l3thal> RainCT, thanks
[21:22] <chao1> hello everyone
[21:23] <arooni> i have a 300GB seagate hard drive that is 2 years old (5 year warranty)... anyway, recently i had a bunch of problems with the disk (it seemed to revert to read only)... so I ran fsck (or whatever its called) a couple times and fixed a bunch of errors;  then ran the seagate long diagnostic test (and found no errors).... then this morning, it randomly turned read only again.... i had to fix by sudo touch /forcefsck .... which seemed
[21:23] <_2>      what software do you use to scan things on your scanner ?
[21:23] <RainCT> snap|l3thal: you're welcome :)
[21:23] <arooni> to fix it.  question:  is this a really bad disk (even though segate diagnostics said it was OK)?
[21:23] <_2> this can't be that hard of a question.
[21:23] <mercutio22> please help me remove this broken package: http://www.pastebin.ca/1059388
[21:23] <RainCT> mercutio22: if you do   sudo /etc/init.d/g15daemon stop   what do you get?
[21:23] <tritium> mercutio22: don't repeat
[21:23] <mercutio22> RainCT: ok.. hang on
[21:23] <EverettGM1819> ok, so uh, how do you use the so called menu editor, i just converted from ubuntu to xubuntu, because my computer is old. like really old and my really new computer blew. im used to ubuntu but it ran to slow on here so i was recommended this distr. i like it it is really fast
[21:23] <chao1> I was wondering if anyone knows why some updates dont say done they say HIT or failed?
[21:23] <OB1FoShoB> arooni: i would rma the drive
[21:23] <adracek> hello i have noticed this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/117651 (system freezes) is here anyone able to help me?
[21:23] <ubott2> Launchpad bug 117651 in linux "ubuntu randomly freezes" [High,Incomplete]
[21:23] <mercutio22> tritium: ok, sorry
[21:23] <miguelrsilva> hi. i'been having some problems to install ubutu. any option that i choose from install menu (after boot) leads me to a (initramfs) shell prompt. i've created the CD from a iso which i verifyed the md5sum. i've created more than one CD (7) in diferent medias (sony, hp, philips emtec) and using two different machines (two CD drives). i've been using InfraRecord. any idea of what might be happening?
[21:23] <esteth> I've set my shell to zsh, but now just about every app complains about this locale setting. How and where can i change this?
[21:24] <LinuxMercedes> does anyone know of any problems with running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade as a cron job and mailing the results to an email address?
[21:24] <RainCT> chao1: for "apt-get/aptitude update", I think "hit" means that the file hasn't changed since the last time you updated the packages list (I'm not sure though)
[21:24] <arooni> OB1FoShoB, really?
[21:24] <Stormx2> miguelrsilva, stupid question I suppose, but have you tried "check cd for defects"?
[21:24] <miguelrsilva> if you whant join the #miguelrsilva chanel to help me ;-)
[21:25] <Hansemann> i have a new laptop battery that wont charge, the only difference from the old one is it that the new one is 6600 mAh, but the old one is 4000 mAh. ubuntu shows the battery as full charged.
[21:25] <mercutio22> RainCT: I get Stopping g15daemon: /usr/sbin/g15daemon: error while loading shared libraries: libg15.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:25] <_2> esteth usermod
[21:25] <miguelrsilva> Stormx2: yes
[21:25] <OB1FoShoB> arooni: use that warranty, i've seen strange probs like that before, and they usually get worse, better to rma before u get it full of data u don't want to lose
[21:25] <Stormx2> miguelrsilva, probably a hardware issue then, I'd imagine.
[21:25] <ASULutzy> if miguelrsilva has used that many different medias and the .iso is correct, it's maybe a hardware specific issue?
[21:25] <arooni> OB1FoShoB, i have an identical drive that i can use.... so you think now would be a good time to swap it out and copy all data?
[21:26] <EverettGM1819> how do you use the so called menu editor in xubuntu, i just converted from ubuntu to xubuntu, because my computer is old. like really old and my really new computer blew. im used to ubuntu but it ran to slow on here so i was recommended this distr. i like it it is really fast
[21:26] <RainCT> mercutio22: installing package libg15-1 and then try to stop it again
[21:26] <OB1FoShoB> arooni: i'm speculating, but as my own rule of thumb, when in doubt, rma
[21:26] <bogey-> !xubuntu | EverettGM1819
[21:26] <ubott2> EverettGM1819: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[21:26] <JASONCO> hi folks -- im using fluxbox on hardy - - when i try to start nautilus -- i get the following error -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/23846/  any ideas?
[21:27] <OB1FoShoB> arooni: some of the newer 500gb seagates have bad firmware, so watch out for that also
[21:27] <bogey-> JASONCO: does /var/lib/samba/usershares exist?
[21:27] <mercutio22> RainCT: ok. brb
[21:27] <madmn> sorry i missed that last comment
[21:27] <JASONCO> no -- but it all worked properly before i convereted from gnome to fluxbox
[21:27] <madmn> about how to upgrade gcc
[21:28] <tritium> madmn: we already told you to install build-essential.  Please pay attention.
[21:28] <arooni> is there anyway of getting the serial number for my segate 300gb hard drive from the command line?  or do i phsycially have to take out the drive
[21:28] <madmn> thanks
[21:28] <RainCT> EverettGM1819: I don't know if it's installed by default on Xubuntu, but the menu editor is called Alacarte
[21:28] <madmn> what is the command for that
[21:28] <OB1FoShoB> arooni: u could also try running the disk tools on it, but i've seen some drives that are still flaky that don't report errors in manufacturers tools
[21:28] <tritium> madmn: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[21:28] <LinuxMercedes> does anyone know of any problems with running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade as a cron job and mailing the results to an email address?
[21:29] <EverettGM1819> RainCT: well it is just called menu editor on here, maybe it is because im using the live cd cuz im currently installing right now
[21:29] <mercutio22> RainCT: sudo /etc/init.d/g15daemon stop
[21:29] <mercutio22> Stopping g15daemon: G15Daemon not running
[21:29] <RainCT> EverettGM1819: yes. so.. what's the problem?
[21:29] <miguelrsilva> ASULutzy, miguelrsilva: from which machine? target machine?
[21:29] <RainCT> mercutio22: ok, and try to remove it now
[21:30] <EverettGM1819> RainCT: well how do you use it
[21:30] <EverettGM1819> it is different than ubuntu and kubuntu
[21:30] <Hansemann> anyone know a good laptop support channel/server?
[21:30] <ASULutzy> arooni: I think smartmontools might work... sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[21:30] <metalpres> dies anyone use Virtualbox on hardy?  I am having a problem with getting shared folders to work,  it worked fine on gutsy but since upgrading now the guest os wont see the shared folders, i dont know if its a virtualbox problem or an ubuntu problem
[21:30] <EverettGM1819> RainCT: it is different from ubuntu and kubuntu**
[21:30] <Kidfork> does xubuntu have WUBI
[21:30] <freda> can anyone tell me how to repartition?  i've installed ubuntu first and now need to devote a partition to xp
[21:30] <freda> and gparted isn't working
[21:31] <ASULutzy> metalpres: My shared folders are still working
[21:31] <mercutio22> RainCT: http://www.pastebin.ca/1059401
[21:31] <freda> (it seems impossible to boot from the ubuntu live cd- my computer, even when i tell it to boot from cd, doesnt accept it)
[21:31] <mercutio22> RainCT: cannot comply
[21:32] <arooni> ASULutzy, you're right@!
[21:32] <RainCT> mercutio22: strange... and if you start it (sudo /etc/init.d/g15daemon start) and then try to remove it?
[21:32] <ASULutzy> arooni: go me ;)
[21:32] <mercutio22> RainCT: LEMME SEE
[21:32] <greenfishx3> i accidently typed sudo mv blalalal but I forgot to tell where, where are my files now?
[21:32] <mercutio22> sorry for the caps
[21:32] <Frijolie> anybody know of an editor to create your own .pdf forms? pdfEditor doesn't work, evince doesn't support forms, xpdf is just a viewer
[21:33] <RainCT> EverettGM1819: I'm not sure what you mean..
[21:33] <unop> greenfishx3, is that the exact command you used? sudo mv blalalal
[21:33] <cherwin> greenfishx3: You'll get an error message
[21:33] <Packman_e> hello all
[21:33] <greenfishx3> no error message
[21:34] <greenfishx3> I did sudo mv John Williams <-- thats all
[21:34] <EverettGM1819> RainCT: it doesnt have the checkboxes to select what you want to add, it just has an add button and stuff, and when i click add, it pops up the directory and i really dont kno what a program is on linux
[21:34] <mercutio22> RainCT: I am still getting the same error: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:34] <RainCT> mercutio22: and it started correctly?
[21:34] <greenfishx3> cherwin: , unop I did sudo mv John Williams <-- thats all and the original folder is now empty
[21:34] <cherwin> greenfishx3: You renamed the file "John" to "Williams". Or if you have a directory Williams, you've moved it to that directory.
[21:34] <Stormx2> greenfishx3, you moved a file called "John" to "Williams"
[21:34] <RainCT> EverettGM1819: ah. the executables are in /usr/bin (or /usr/games for games)
[21:35] <unop> greenfishx3, well, that would have copied a file named John to a new file named Williams -- but it wouldn't have done anything to a file named "John Williams"
[21:35] <Packman_e> does anyone here use gmail?
[21:35] <JASONCO> bogey-, i created the directory -- it doesnt throw the error now - but it still wont let me access windows shares --- and konqueror will -- so i know the smbfs is workin
[21:35] <Stormx2> Packman_e, aye.
[21:35] <EverettGM1819> RainCT: oh ok thanx i think i will experiment with it, couldnt hurt much
[21:35] <mercutio22> RainCT: I got no output whatsoever to sudo /etc/init.d/g15daemon start
[21:35] <Templis> Hi all!
[21:35] <Makuseru> Hi,i seem to be having a problem with Java, i checked, and it IS installed, but whenever i go to a page in firefox i get the white box with the green puzzle piece saying i need to install it. Anyone know how to fix this?
[21:35] <Stormx2> Hi Templis!
[21:35] <mercutio22> RainCT: I suppose so then
[21:35] <WhoaTotalWipeout> Packman_e: aye
[21:35] <Stormx2> !java | Makuseru
[21:35] <ubott2> Makuseru: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[21:35] <sorosh> hi
[21:35] <RainCT> mercutio22: yeah... seems like the package is broken..
[21:36] <sorosh> can you farsi?
[21:36] <mercutio22> RainCT: Is there no way I can force its removal?
[21:36] <RainCT> mercutio22: bug #173675 is about the same issue but upgrading
[21:36] <ubott2> Launchpad bug 173675 in g15daemon "package g15daemon 1.9.0-wip.20070910-5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173675
[21:36] <greenfishx3> cherwin: Stormx2 unop well I just checked my home directory no new folder no new nothing... is there a way to search for my folder? locate gives me millions of hits
[21:37] <Templis> Does anybody know, if it is possibe to make a install CD based on current ubuntu (xubuntu) installation?
[21:37] <Stormx2> greenfishx3: What are you looking for?
[21:37] <Packman_e> nice, i just started using it and i find it a bit annoying that if you are reading a message and then delete it, it kicks you back to the inbox rather than move you onto the next message. does anyone know how to go about changing this please?
[21:37] <mercutio22> RainCT: ok.. thanx. I'll read that
[21:37] <unop> greenfishx3,  find ~ -iname "*john*" -o -iname "*williams*"
[21:37] <RainCT> mercutio22: it doesn't say how to fix it though.. best would be to ask in #ubuntu-motu
[21:37] <WhoaTotalWipeout> Packman_e: That's gmail support, not ubuntu support :P
[21:38] <unop> greenfishx3, or use the gnome-search-tool
[21:38] <WhoaTotalWipeout> Packman_e: but in either case, you can go through the settings menu in gmail.
[21:38] <mercutio22> RainCT: ok, wilco
[21:38] <WhoaTotalWipeout> How does one go about automounting windoze partitions at startup in ubuntu?
[21:38] <unop> !fstab | WhoaTotalWipeout
[21:39] <ubott2> WhoaTotalWipeout: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[21:39] <Packman_e> WhoaTotalWipeout, yeah i suppose it is, sorry. its just that after i sort out my email i would like to configure it in evolution (the linux outlook clone)
[21:39] <tim2> Hi al #l how can i place tet in a file without opening it ?
[21:39] <greenfishx3> thanks unop, i found it
[21:39] <EverettGM1819> Templis: what do you mean making an install cd?
[21:39] <unop> tim2, please elaborate a little bit more- what are you trying to do exactly?
[21:39] <RainCT> tim2: you mean from the command line?
[21:40] <carrera> Greetings!
[21:40] <unop> hello
[21:40] <Makuseru> Hi,i seem to be having a problem with Java, i checked, and it IS installed, but whenever i go to a page in firefox i get the white box with the green puzzle piece saying i need to install it. Anyone know how to fix this?
[21:40] <tim2> yes from command line. I sen some where
[21:40] <tim2> like >>
[21:40] <carrera> can someone help me get VirtualBox please? Sun wouldn't let me d/l
[21:40] <unop> tim2, echo "tet" >> file
[21:40] <AskHL> Makuseru, you have to install the plugin, not just the runtime environment
[21:41] <WhoaTotalWipeout> Packman_e: I can suggest for you to use IMAP in evolution to get your gmail. And Evolution is an open source alternative, not a clone ;)
[21:41] <Makuseru> AskHL: i belive i had that installed to, let me check
[21:41] <AskHL> e.e. sun-java6-plugin or similar, Makuseru
[21:41] <WhoaTotalWipeout> carrera: Sure, give me a sec
[21:41] <AskHL> (i.e.)
[21:41] <RainCT> Makuseru: do you have package sun-java6-plugin?
[21:41] <carrera> WhoaTotalWipeout, Thanks dude... You're Awesome!!!
[21:41] <WhoaTotalWipeout> carrera: I haven't even helped you yet :P
[21:41] <malex> Stormx2: Where is the iwl4965 module for Intel 4964AGN wireless card?
[21:42] <WhoaTotalWipeout> carrera: But I hate sun's website all the same
[21:42] <Makuseru> RainCT:  AskHL: yes, its installed
[21:42] <Packman_e> WhoaTotalWipeout, yeah sorry, thats what i meant to say :-)
[21:42] <Stormx2> malex, you really think I'd know that?
[21:42] <carrera> WhoaTotalWipeout, as soon as Sun bought MySQL they banned Iran
[21:42] <malex> Stormx2: sorry, i was going to reply to your note about the 386 kernel and accidentally asked the above :)
[21:42] <Stormx2> Google it ;_;
[21:42] <Stormx2> Oh heh
[21:42] <carrera> WhoaTotalWipeout, now Sun did the same with VirtualBox
[21:42] <tim2> so sudo echo deb http://repository.(ie) >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:42] <EverettGM1819> google rox
[21:42] <Packman_e> WhoaTotalWipeout, is the imap support/speed good with google and evolution?
[21:43] <EverettGM1819> has anyone read about that rumor of google making a linux os distribution?
[21:43] <WhoaTotalWipeout> Packman_e: IMAP is to POP as jets are to cars.
[21:43] <AskHL> Makuseru, hmm, then I don't really know.  You may be able to find some information in the firefox settings
[21:43] <unop> tim2, no, that woudlnt work ..   echo deb http://repository.(ie) | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:43] <carrera> WhoaTotalWipeout, how long will u be? going to the kitchen to grab some fruit
[21:43] <Makuseru> AskHL: everything that refers to Java is enabled in FF
[21:43] <Stormx2> tim2
[21:43] <Stormx2> tim2: Won't work.
[21:44] <Packman_e> WhoaTotalWipeout, what you mean imap is big, slow and expensive?
[21:44] <RainCT> Makuseru: and you've restarted it, right? (just to be sure)
[21:44] <Makuseru> RainCT: yes
[21:44] <tim2> ok thanks
[21:44] <unop> tim2, or.   sudo bash -c "echo deb http://repository.(ie) >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[21:44] <Packman_e> i forgot , and resource hungry
[21:44] <tim2> thanks again
[21:44] <Lynet> Packman_e: No, when it fails it fails spectacularely.
[21:45] <unop> !info aspell
[21:45] <ubott2> aspell (source: aspell): GNU Aspell spell-checker. In component main, is optional. Version 0.60.5-1ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 90 kB, installed size 1132 kB
[21:45] <unop> :)
[21:45] <Packman_e> oh dear, that dont sound good
[21:46] <trashguy> You have to be kidding me
[21:46] <WhoaTotalWipeout> carrera: Give me a few minutes here, just setting up some things on my Dad's laptop
[21:46] <lejonet> Anyone here with extensive knowledge about luks system? I need the help with mounting a encrypted partition I got, so I can see all the contents too, because when I use luksOpen it says its not a luks partition and when I mount it, which goes fine, it doesn't ask for the passphrase, mounts it and I can only see a few files
[21:46] <trashguy> anyoen know there i can get OOo 2.3 x64
[21:46] <EverettGM1819> how do i uninstall language packs in xubuntu, i tried asking in the #xubuntu room but noone answered?
[21:47] <tonyyarusso> EverettGM1819: try the localepurge tool.
[21:47] <joaopinto> EverettGM1819, you go to the package manger and remove them
[21:47] <Templis> EverettGM1819: I have made a CS server that uses as less resources as possible, and want to share it with my friend, that runs CS server on windows, but isn't familiar with linux..
[21:47] <akuma5000> hello ppl
[21:47] <trashguy> nm disregard
[21:47] <akuma5000> whats new
[21:47] <SrgSantos54> can someone help me out am tring to crack my own wep key
[21:47] <trashguy> forgot about linux 32bit libs
[21:47] <Ademan> is there any way to get ahold of a firefox 3 final deb for gutsy?
[21:47] <EverettGM1819> Templis: oh ok
[21:47] <scobby> any have a tip to get ndiswrapper with wpa running?? at home only wep works
[21:47] <joaopinto> SrgSantos54, wrong channel
 thats a way bto start
[21:48] <EverettGM1819> tonyyarusso: ok where is that at?
[21:48] <JonDeere> Hi folks! I was wondering what it takes to install a driver for an internal modem (PCI\VEN_12B&DEV_1008) on Ubuntu 8.04?
[21:48] <Templis> EverettGM1819: have you tried apt-get install language pack?
[21:48] <WhoaTotalWipeout> SrgSantos54: There's some useful tutorials on how to go about doing that on irongeek.com
[21:48] <Templis> or synaptics
[21:48] <SrgSantos54> thanks
[21:48] <tonyyarusso> EverettGM1819: in the repos, with everything else.
[21:48] <_phoenix_> youre makeing me hot
[21:49] <_phoenix_> sorry... wrong window
[21:49] <tonyyarusso> !modem | JonDeere
[21:49] <ubott2> JonDeere: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[21:49] <lejonet> !luks > lejonet
[21:49] <JonDeere> Tony, Ubott2: Thanks, looking
[21:49] <Jaredu> whats the easiest way to install a theme on ubuntu?
[21:49] <inma> kiero conocer gente
[21:49] <EverettGM1819> well im still on the live cd, it is installing right now still, but it said, downloading and installing language packs, and it had a button to skip so i jus wunna kno so when i boot it up in realtime i know how to get rid of it
[21:49] <lejonet> !dm-crypt > lejonet
[21:49] <korn_> hi
[21:50] <Jaredu> anyone? o.O
[21:50] <Templis> Jaredu: Download a theme at www.gnome-look.org and at theme manager click something like install new theme
[21:50] <ilembitov> Hi, all. I have a laptop with Broadcom 4310 wi-fi card, which is the only mean for connecting to the internet. I have a disk with drivers (it's dell). Does ubuntu provide ndiswrapper from install cd?
[21:50] <WhoaTotalWipeout> carrera: I'm sorry, I have to go - I'll be back later under the alias of DJAdmiral, though
[21:50] <lejonet> Anyone here with extensive knowledge about luks system? I need the help with mounting a encrypted partition I got, so I can see all the contents too, because when I use luksOpen it says its not a luks partition and when I mount it, which goes fine, it doesn't ask for the passphrase, mounts it and I can only see a few files
[21:50] <inma> ola adrian de donde  eres
[21:50] <joaopinto> !es | inma
[21:50] <ubott2> inma: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
[21:51] <korn_> I want to sign a local repo with gpg. http://rafb.net/p/nky0Rt53.html this is my Release file. but I get the error:  Unable to find expected entry  Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[21:51] <inma> jjukjoolo0lkoo0p
[21:52] <nano_> anyone know how to convert numerous vob files into 1 avi file?
[21:52] <inma> de donde eres
[21:52] <crackhead> hi people, i just did some synaptic recommended "fix broken" headers thing, and now my wireless isnt recognized.. it did something with linux restricted drivers, synaptic did, and i dont kno what... helpppp???????
[21:53] <Templis>  I have made a CS server that uses as less resources as possible, and want to share it with my friend, that runs CS server on windows, but isn't familiar with linux.. What's the easiest way to do it? Install cd? Something else?
[21:53] <Jaredu> hmm
[21:53] <Jaredu> was your wireless recognized before?
[21:53] <crackhead> yeah, five minutes ago
[21:53] <miguelrsilva> is it ok to install ubuntu not connected to the internet and only connect later?
[21:53] <joaopinto> miguelrsilva, yes it is
[21:53] <crackhead> Jaredu: and i look in the restricted driv ething,and it says it is there, but it's not recognizing now..
[21:54] <Jaredu> hmm... have you tried undoing the thing that you did to make it do that?
[21:54] <joaopinto> Templis, a partition image, and instructions how to install from it
[21:54] <crackhead> Jaredu: im goin to try restarting the computer after now i did disable restric driver, and then re-enabled them.. think that should try?
[21:54] <crackhead> Jared
[21:54] <crackhead> i dont kno what synap did exactly..
[21:54] <crackhead> it said there are  broken things, and i said ok, fix..
[21:54] <EverettGM1819> crackhead: is your wireless encrypted maybe?
[21:55] <BlackCow> Gnome is really messed up for me and I am unable to fix it; Is it at all possible to reinstall gnome or at least uninstall it and install xfce instead? (without messing with my other system files)
[21:56] <arooni> how do i list out all the drives i have and what capacities they are?
[21:56] <Tea4all> I want to know if playing world of warcraft in Ubuntu can mess up a Windows computer.
[21:56] <EverettGM1819> hey, does anyone know if the xubuntu live cd allows you to view all applications or just a few, because it is setting up openoffice and i dont remember seeing openoffice, i only remember seein abiword
[21:57] <brad__> my cd drive seems to be broken, when i put in a dvd, it says failed to mount "name of disk", any suggestions?
[21:57] <Templis> joaopinto: hmm looks tricky.. I'll try to do something like this way, just not to make a whole partition image thing
[21:57] <Templis> joaopinto: Thanks..
[21:58] <EverettGM1819> brad__: maybe your cd wasnt burnt correctly, ubuntu did it to me once, i re burnt the cd and it worked
[21:58] <some_person> Can someone help me figure out why sound doesn't come out of my speakers? I tested the sound through my headphones, which work, and I do hear sound through them
[21:59] <joaopinto> Templis, it is not tricky, is quite easy if you use partimage
[22:00] <Tea4all>  I want to know if playing world of warcraft in Ubuntu can mess up a Windows computer.
[22:00] <Templis> joaopinto: Thanks a lot!
[22:00] <crackhead> Jare: you jaredu? that was helping me a second ago? i still cant get my wireless to work again... ?
[22:00] <OB1FoShoB> tea4all: no, but i would make a second copy of any config files u change for use with ubuntu, so if u go back to windoze u can easily restore
[22:00] <joaopinto> Tea4all, using linux does not touch your windows partition at all
[22:00] <some_person> Or just use Wine
[22:00] <brad__> says: mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[22:00] <brad__> mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/cdrom1 busy
[22:00] <brad__> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdc is already mounted on /media/cdrom1
[22:01] <OB1FoShoB> tea4all: u will most likely want to change some setting for opengl and such
[22:01] <crackhead> can anyone help me get my wireless to work? it was working five minutes ago, has been working fine for the last months.. just five minutes ago, in synaptic, i was advised to fix broken headres of linux restricted stuff.. and i did, clicked ok, and now it doesn't work... it doesnt see the wireless card in the network-admin thing on the bottom right of the toolbar/screen...???? help???
[22:01] <OB1FoShoB> tea4all: also wow seems to run better with older versions wine/crossover, not sure why
[22:02] <joaopinto> crackhead, have you reinstalled the linux restricted modules package ?
[22:02] <cara> can someone help me with ndiswrapper.  I have a BCM4328 wireless and I'm using kernel 2.6.24-19-generic and I cannot get my wireless working.  NIC uses the tg3 module so I don't know if has anything to do with the ssb thing.  Could someone please help me?
[22:02] <crackhead> joaopinto: i believe so?
[22:02] <fadai> i am using xubuntu and i cannot watch youtube
[22:02] <JonDeere> OK the modem is going to take a bit of doing, I'll worry about that later. Last question: Can I change the order of the boot options in GRUB so it boots Windows 2K by time-out default?
[22:02] <joaopinto> fadai, have you installed the flash plugin from the repositories ?
[22:02] <arooni-mobile> i have two 300 GB seagate drives.... drive a is currently being used and has /root/ and /home/ on it... and is named /sda/ but is currently dying...  drive b is not being used.  what i want to do is insert drive b and duplicate drive a to drive b.  then i want to start booting from drive b so i can rma drive a.  how should i go about doing this?
[22:03] <ASULutzy> cara: lspci | grep Broad
[22:03] <boing_boing> hello there
[22:03] <joaopinto> JonDeere, yes, either manually edit your menu.lst
[22:03] <fadai> joaopinto: yes I have installed flash
[22:03] <joaopinto> ops, remove the "either" :P
[22:03] <boing_boing> i really seemed to have messed up my xorg.conf file
[22:03] <boing_boing> i can't seem to fix it either
[22:03] <Bax_> I just downloaded compiz-extra through the synaptic manager and now I'm trying to access the new options that it provides, like color inversion.  How do I access compiz or use the commands of this new package?  Do I work through a terminal or does it have a gui?
[22:03] <IntoxikCat> -Hello for all.
[22:04] <boing_boing> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't give me parameters for getting my drivers to plug in nor for the resolution
[22:04] <JonDeere> Joaopinto: Thankyou, I'll look for that file. Is it in the Linux file-system?
[22:04] <lejonet> Anyone here with extensive knowledge about luks system? I need the help with mounting a encrypted partition I got, so I can see all the contents too, because when I use luksOpen it says its not a luks partition and when I mount it, which goes fine, it doesn't ask for the passphrase, mounts it and I can only see a few files
[22:04] <IntoxikCat> -Somebody can mount dvd on Ubuntu Hardy?
[22:04] <boing_boing> i have several failsaif xorg.conf files saved but the reload seems to fail each time
[22:04] <ASULutzy> cara: Ah, looks like both use the same. Ok do this: sudo apt-get install ndisgtk && wget http://myspamb8.googlepages.com/R151517-pruned.zip && unzip R151517-pruned.zip
[22:04] <fadai> joaopinto: I installed restricted too.. still cannot watch youtube..
[22:04] <joaopinto> JonathanD, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:04] <ASULutzy> cara: Then just click System -> administration -> windows wireless drivers, and point it to the .inf file that that command will unzip
[22:05] <boing_boing> does anyone have any suggestions?
[22:05] <joaopinto> fadai, try restarting firefox, the flash plugin does randomly fails
[22:05] <adityag> where will i find .htaccess file ??? apache conf file
[22:06] <fadai> joaopinto: actually its been a couple of days since I am having this problem, restarting is all what I do
[22:06] <joaopinto> adityag, no. that file is usually placed on the directories you want to set those options at
[22:06] <joaopinto> fadai, I can't help much, I have found the flash plugin unstable myself
[22:06] <IntoxikCat> I can't mount DVD on Ubuntu Hardy. Anyone know how to do this?
[22:06] <fadai> okz, thanks anyways
[22:07] <joaopinto> IntoxikCat, DVDs are usually auto mounted when you insert them
[22:07] <fadai> joaopinto: can you tell me how to install google earth? I have downloaded it.
[22:07] <giacomo_carissim> where do i put an icons folder?
[22:07] <adamb_> Little off topic but.. I plan to output my ubuntu machine to my LCD tv via dvi -> hdmi, if I play a dvd would it upconvert to 720p or? and if I geta  blueray player, would it be1080p?
[22:07] <giacomo_carissim> i can't install it through the gui cause it was rared
[22:07] <adityag> joaopinto: so i should paste the contents and place it at the required folder with name .htaccess ,right ?
[22:08] <ASULutzy> IntoxikCat: When you place the DVD in the dvd drive it should automount, surprised it doesn't/
[22:08] <some_person> Why would sound not work in Ubuntu 8.04?
[22:08] <joaopinto> adityag, yes
[22:08] <ASULutzy> some_person: You could have something muted, or you could be outputting to the wrong thing. try typing alsamixer in a terminal and making sure everything is ok there
[22:08] <linuxpwns> does anybody of a GUI app to that one command where you have a program that is .tar.gz and you have to do extract it? (compliling from source)
[22:08] <giacomo_carissim> where do i put a folder of icons?
[22:09] <tonyyarusso> I'm trying to use Clonezilla/DRBL to image some drives.  It's working, but for some reason is only using 1/10 of the network capacity or less.  In the past I've seen it max out the 100 Mbps hardware.  Any idea what's going on this time to make it so slow?
[22:09] <some_person> ASULutzy: ok, I'll try that
[22:09] <IntoxikCat> joaopinto, i can't mount my dvds, Why? i don't know. I did try with mount /dev/dvd, mount -t udf,iso9660 /dev/dvd /media/cdrom0 and nothing.
[22:09] <ASULutzy> linuxpwns: the archive manager does it by default?
[22:09] <adityag> joaopinto: thank u
[22:09] <ASULutzy> IntoxikCat: What happens when you just put the DVD in the DVD rom drive
[22:09] <linuxpwns> ASUlutzy: Really? i never knew that.
[22:10] <FlyingWV> giacomo_carissim, I think icons are placed in /usr/share/icons
[22:10] <joaopinto> IntoxikCat, just: mount /dev/dvd /media/cdrom0
[22:10] <joaopinto> without all those options, and pastebin the result
[22:10] <giacomo_carissim> okay
[22:10] <some_person> ASULutzy: everything is as loud as can be (except for the headphones, which still work somehow)
[22:10] <ASULutzy> IntoxikCat: Do what joaopinto said but put sudo in front of it ;)
[22:10] <joaopinto> ops :P
[22:11] <ASULutzy> some_person: Hmmm, do you have the right device selected? you can right click the little speaker in the top right and hit preferences
[22:11] <IntoxikCat> -Show message that say: Cannot mount volume. Unable to mount the volume "UDF Volume"
[22:11] <ASULutzy> some_person: Also you can click system -> preferences -> sounds, and play around with the stuff there :)
[22:11] <joaopinto> IntoxikCat, do not use any mount options, just use the plain mount syntax
[22:11] <mryanbrown> ive got this 500gb hdd, and i formatted it to ext3, when i mount it... i cant create a folder/doc or write to it
[22:11] <mryanbrown> any ideas on what to do?
[22:12] <adamb_> Anyone have ubuntu machine outputting to their TV?
[22:12] <joaopinto> mryanbrown, you must chown/chmod for the required privileges
[22:12] <some_person> ASULutzy: as for the little speaker icon, do you mean "open volume control?"
[22:12] <ASULutzy> adamb_: I wish, with the intel driver I can't get S-video to work at all
[22:12] <mryanbrown> do i do like chmod /dev/sdb1 +x ?
[22:12] <ASULutzy> some_person: Yes, but no. RIght click it and click preferences
[22:12] <adamb_> looking for the best video card to get to output to my tv, anyone suggest?
[22:12] <adamb_> dvi, I would need ofcourse.
[22:12] <ASULutzy> mryanbrown: No, that would say make /dev/sdb1 executable
[22:12] <joaopinto> mryanbrown, not the device, the mount point... I mean. after it's mounted
[22:12] <giacomo_carissim> i put an icon folders in /usr/share/icons, but it doesnt show up under pref>appearance
[22:13] <some_person> ASULutzy: I missed it the first time :P
[22:13] <mryanbrown> lol
[22:13] <joaopinto> mryanbrown, chown /mount_path user:group
[22:13] <mryanbrown> how do i do that? or what should i man
[22:13] <mryanbrown> oh
[22:13] <joaopinto> ops, chown user:group /path
[22:13] <mryanbrown> to be safe, should i do it to sudo?
[22:13] <joaopinto> mryanbrown, sudo is required, since you don't own it
[22:14] <FlyingWV> giacomo_carissim, to install the icons, browse to the folder where the main folder is located, then drag and drop it onto the themes tab under pref/appearance, it should install it under custom
[22:14] <ASULutzy> mryanbrown: Yea, you need to be root to do it (to be fair it's always safer to try things not as root, and if it doesn't work because you need higher privileges, then rock the root ;))
[22:14] <mryanbrown> sudo chown user:group /dev/sdb1
[22:14] <mryanbrown> ?
[22:14] <ASULutzy> mryanbrown: No.
[22:14] <IntoxikCat> joaopinto: is the same that put in console, but not is correcty. The message say: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mouting read-only...
[22:14] <giacomo_carissim> FlyingWV: i've tried that, nothing happens
[22:14] <mryanbrown> lol im so lost
[22:14] <joaopinto> mryanbrown, NOT the device, the mount point
[22:14] <mattiniraq> Hey hows it going everyone?
[22:14] <mryanbrown> oh
[22:15] <giacomo_carissim> FlyingWV: i downloaded it as a rar file and then extracted the folder
[22:15] <mryanbrown> well uh
[22:15] <mryanbrown> hold on
[22:15] <Bax_> how on earth can I access compiz settings?
[22:15] <some_person> ASULutzy: nothing is working
[22:15] <joaopinto> mryanbrown, is that partition mount anywhere, to start with ?
[22:15] <Slart> !ccsm | Bax_
[22:15] <ubott2> Bax_: ccsm is To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[22:15] <joaopinto> mounted
[22:15] <ASULutzy> mryanbrown: /dev/sdb1 is the device. you would be doing something like, sudo mkdir /media/sdb1 && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1
[22:15] <ASULutzy> mryanbrown: And then you would want to chown the /media/sdb1, not /dev/sdb1
[22:15] <boing_boing> can anyone help me with my driver problems?
[22:15] <joaopinto> !anyone | boing_boing
[22:15] <ubott2> boing_boing: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[22:16] <ASULutzy> some_person: Did you try playing around by clicking system -> preferences -> sounds?
[22:16] <lejonet> I need the help with mounting a encrypted partition I got, so I can see all the contents too, because when I use luksOpen it says its not a luks partition and when I mount it, which goes fine, it doesn't ask for the passphrase, mounts it and I can only see a few files
[22:16] <boing_boing> joaopinto, i went into detail a ways back
[22:16] <Bax_> Slart: any chance of an as simple command in fiesty?
[22:16] <mattiniraq> I have a quick question, I am in Iraq right now, and i have my ubuntu CD, but for some reason my computer will not boot if from the CD.. I was able to install it from windows, but now windows is gone, and I am running from withing mandrake 10.1, its the only linux cd I could get that would boot, is it possible to install ubuntu from within mandrake?
[22:17] <definitely> Anyone know how to put output of playing song in Rhythmbox in IRC or DC  ?
[22:17] <ASULutzy> boing_boing: None of us are going to scroll up through the logs to see. Reask your question if it's been a while ;)
[22:17] <amrik> mattiniraq: it might be that the ubuntu cd you burnt went bad
[22:17] <Slart> Bax_: try the same one.. it might be available for feisty too.. "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager"
[22:17] <lejonet> mattiniraq, have you tried checking in ur bios if the hdd is before the cd in the bootup sequence?
[22:17] <boing_boing> my xorg.conf file is good and messed up, and despite having backup files, but none of them seem to work
[22:17] <eraldo> could someone please help me get ekiga to work... the registration process works, but the test call does not ! ...no connection at all
[22:17] <IntoxikCat> -This message show: mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error in some cases useful info is found in syslog -try dmesg | tail or su
[22:17] <some_person> ASULutzy: yes
[22:17] <mattiniraq> the CD i burnt will boot up just fine in windows, but my laptop has issues booting CD's, it only boots what it wants to
[22:17] <crackhead> hi.. still having trouble getting my wireless back.. it was working fine for the last months and up until five minutes ago, when i "fixed broken headers" in synpatic.. now the network-admin program int he bottom right of the screen doesnt recognize any wireless card.. however, the restricted linux driver does seem to say that it recognizes my intel pro 8945 wireless card... help????
[22:17] <definitely> Anyone know how to put playing song output of Rhythmbox player, into DC or mIRC ?
[22:17] <eraldo> I set ekiga to use sipgate account
[22:18] <ASULutzy> mIRC?
[22:18] <eraldo> but calls don't work
[22:18] <Slart> definitely: people that create fetures like that should have their computer taken away from them... (there might be a plugin of some kind of the irc-client)
[22:18] <mattiniraq> and yes I checked the BIOS, the cd drive is first
[22:18] <Slart> definitely: *features
[22:18] <ASULutzy> definitely: mIRC is a windows app?
[22:18] <definitely> ASULUtzy: I dont mean mIRC i mean IRC clients and DC
[22:19] <Slart> mIRC can be run under wine.. works okay.. it's still mIRC though
[22:19] <crackhead> anyone? know a lot about wireless??
[22:19] <mattiniraq> does anyone have any idea on installing ubuntu from within linux?
[22:19] <joaopinto> definitely, the last time I have checked IRC was not capable of streaming audio....
[22:19] <ASULutzy> definitely: I've seen some things that allow for the current song that is playing to be displayed as status in pidgin. It would probably require you to do somet programming
[22:19] <cara> cara@cara-laptop:~$ lspci | grep Broad
[22:19] <cara> 10:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[22:19] <cara> 18:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
[22:19] <some_person> crackhead: maybe. what's your problem?
[22:19] <joaopinto> oh, he means plugin just for the song name
[22:19] <crackhead> joaopinto: you were helping me before.. i tried resintalling the linux restric. drivers, but that didnt do anything. i also tried reinstalling the linux header
[22:19] <cara> sorry about ASULutzy was afk
[22:19] <definitely> joaopinto: Yeah
[22:20] <Slart> joaopinto: I think he means something that prints out "definately is listening to Britney Spears - One more time" to a channel
[22:20] <ASULutzy> cara: I already gave the solution up there a few lines below that ;)
[22:20] <joaopinto> crackhead, I am out of suggestions, I dont have any experience with wifi break&fix
[22:20] <Bax_> Slart: not working, something is locked
[22:20] <crackhead> some_person: five minutes ago i did fix broken headers on synaptic. then my wireless stopped working it seems. the network-admin doesnt see the wireless card/connection anymore. however the restric driver program in "system" does seem to see the intel 8945 pro wireless card.. and advises it should be enabled (which it is)
[22:20] <mattiniraq> anyone for this installing from cd withing linux?
[22:20] <Slart> Bax_: do you have a synaptics window running somewhere?
[22:20] <navetz__> I am running a dual monitor setup using xrandr, how can I check/increase the refresh rate on one of my monitors?
[22:21] <CaptinShmit> sup y0.
[22:21] <IAmHe> ey up
[22:21] <ASULutzy> cara: Ah, looks like both use the same. Ok do this: sudo apt-get install ndisgtk && wget http://myspamb8.googlepages.com/R151517-pruned.zip && unzip R151517-pruned.zip
[22:21] <ASULutzy> cara: Then just click System -> administration -> windows wireless drivers, and point it to the .inf file that that command will unzip
[22:21] <some_person> crackhead: is there a way to undo those fixes? It's a possibility that your problem may be the result of your fix
[22:21] <crackhead> some_person: um, well i tried reinstalling the programs that seemed to be mentioned..
[22:22] <amaro> ola q tal
[22:22] <noor> I'm trying to use the proprietary ATI drivers.  After a little bit of work I got them to be listed on the "Hardware Drivers" menu.  They are "enabled" but also have the status of "Not in use".  How do I make then in use?
[22:22] <mryanbrown> ok
[22:22] <mryanbrown> that almost worked
[22:22] <some_person> crackhead: but other then that, you can't?
[22:22] <ASULutzy> noor: Click on that entry and tell it to use them? o.O
[22:22] <L815> is there an alternative to compiz which gives just minimal effects & wont affect video?
[22:22] <joaopinto> noor, define "little bit of work" ? It should be as simple as clicking the enable button :P
[22:22] <Bax_> Slart: yeah I did, closed that window.  But now it's saying it couldn't find the package and the ccsm command still isn't working
[22:22] <crackhead> some, i dont know
[22:23] <Slart> L815: nothing that gives you 3d windows and such.. there is a small composite backend that basically just gives you transparency but nothing else
[22:23] <Slart> Bax_: ok.. sounds like it isn't available in feisty after all.. any special reason for not upgrading?
[22:23] <some_person> crackhead: that sucks.
[22:23] <L815> Slart, i'm looking for something minimal like min and max windows
[22:23] <mattiniraq> Does anyone know how to install ubuntu from within another linux operating system?
[22:24] <source_code> you can use vmware
[22:24] <source_code> os virtualization
[22:24] <Slart> L815: min and max windows? you want the animations?
[22:24] <Bax_> Slart: don't know how/too complicated/just rather not
[22:24] <L815> Slart, yah I guess just that
[22:24] <ASULutzy> mattiniraq: Do you mean using virtualbox?
[22:24] <SeidMadr> Hi
[22:24] <Slart> L815: nope.. I don't know of anything else than compiz that does that
[22:24] <mattiniraq> No, here is what is going on
[22:25] <Slart> !upgrade | Bax_
[22:25] <ubott2> Bax_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:25] <joaopinto> ASULutzy, he is trying to do an Ubuntu native install from an installed Mandrake, since he is unable to boot from the Ubuntu CD
[22:25] <L815> Slart: thanks anyway
[22:25] <mryanbrown> ok so why doesnt /media/sdb1 exist if /dev/sdb1 does
[22:25] <noor> joaopinto, yeah, when I first installed 7.10 it was that simple.  But now it wasn't on the list at all.  I installed a package on synaptic I think, ran aticonfig --initial -f and never got it to be "In use".  And I just got done running the newest script I found on ATI's site
[22:25] <mattiniraq> I am running mandrake 10.1 because its the only CD i could get ahold of here in iraq
[22:25] <mattiniraq> that boots up
[22:25] <L815> what about metisse?
[22:25] <Slart> Bax_: it's not that complicated.. but I'm not going to force you =)
[22:25] <joaopinto> mryanbrown, because it needs to be manually created ?
[22:25] <mryanbrown> oh
[22:25] <mryanbrown> just standard mkdir?
[22:25] <joaopinto> mryanbrown, and /dev/sdb1 can be mounted /anywhere ?
[22:25] <mattiniraq> now, was able to install ubuntu from within windows
[22:25] <joaopinto> yes
[22:25] <joaopinto> mattiniraq, you mean... wubi ?
[22:26] <ASULutzy> joaopinto, mattiniraq: Yikes. Um. Noone else out there has a USB stick you could borrow? You could make a bootable live-usb
[22:26] <mryanbrown> why isnt ubuntu automatically detecting it anyways for me to mount
[22:26] <mattiniraq> wubi?
[22:26] <joaopinto> installing ubuntu from windows, is wubi
[22:26] <mattiniraq> i have a usb stick
[22:26] <joaopinto> !wubi
[22:26] <ubott2> Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.
[22:26] <mattiniraq> oh, yeah
[22:26] <some_person> so what else could be causing my sound problem?
[22:26] <mattiniraq> it was horrible
[22:26] <mattiniraq> i hated it
[22:26] <mattiniraq> but the CD would not boot
[22:26] <FloodBot1> mattiniraq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:26] <ASULutzy> mattiniraq: If you want to install Ubuntu to a USB stick it's possible, I do it often
[22:26] <joaopinto> mattiniraq, and how you want to install ubuntu from wubi ??
[22:26] <ASULutzy> !pendrive
[22:26] <ubott2> Factoid pendrive not found
[22:27] <Slart> !install
[22:27] <ubott2> Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[22:27] <ASULutzy> You fail ubott. Hold on
[22:27] <navetz__> does anyone know what a good refresh rate for a 22" lcd is?
[22:27] <Slart> navetz__: 60 Hz or so vertical refresh
[22:27] <joaopinto> noor, you should not use the ATI provided driver, you should use the ones from the repositories instead
[22:27] <navetz__> Slart: how about horizontal?
[22:28] <joaopinto> if you need the latest driver, then you should use envyng-gtk to download and install them
[22:28] <Slart> navetz__: but look it up.. google for the brand/model of  your screen
[22:28] <ASULutzy> mattiniraq: That tinyurl link there could be useful for you, again alternatively google installing ubuntu to a pendrive
[22:28] <Slart> navetz__: or find the manufacturers website and check there
[22:28] <noor> joaopinto, well, I was getting the same result with both.  Its shown as enabled on the list and with status "Not in use"
[22:28] <navetz__> Slart: gotcha, thanks
[22:28] <JohnJ> Is there a way to disable the AMD Phenom TLB bug fix under Ubuntu?
[22:28] <crackhead> anyone good with wireless issues??????
[22:28] <joaopinto> noor, have you checked Xorg log ?
[22:28] <noor> joaopinto, I have not
[22:29] <joaopinto> noor, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, there may be some clue why fglrx is not being loaded
[22:29] <joaopinto> fglrx is the ATI driver
[22:31] <OB1FoShoB> crackhead: what wireless issues?
[22:33] <taes81> Does anyone know why when i try to install the latest nvidia driver its says it cant run it?
[22:33] <yowsh1> anyone know how to get sound working with innotek's VMware?
[22:33] <taes81> its a 7600gt old card
[22:34] <joaopinto> taes81, why are you installing a new driver for an old card ?
[22:34] <Slart> taes81:  what does "try to install it" mean..
[22:34] <frozenknight> hello
[22:34] <joaopinto> taes81, have you tried with the default one ?
[22:34] <noor> joaopinto, the last time I see fglrx mentioned it says XMM failed to open CMMQS, XMM failed to initialize, Direct rendering disabled
[22:34] <taes81> no im getting the latest driver
[22:34] <frozenknight> I was wondering if someone could help me with a little problem i have
[22:34] <alexiel_lilith> wtf
[22:35] <taes81> sorry it says it cant open it
[22:35] <Slart> frozenknight: well.. telling us about the problem might be a good start
[22:35] <joaopinto> taes81, you should not get the latest driver, specially if you are using an old board, the default one from the repositories is fine
[22:35] <mryanbrown> hey
[22:35] <mryanbrown> ok so i did it
[22:35] <yowsh1> or how to get it to access a usb device?
[22:35] <taes81> even so why cant it open it
[22:35] <mryanbrown> i made /media/sdb1 and mounted /dev/sdb1 to it
[22:35] <Slart> taes81: tell us what you are doing, how you are doing it and what the result was
[22:36] <mryanbrown> and did sudo chown username: /media/sdb1
[22:37] <taes81> trying to install a video card driver, i went to the site downloaded the right driver and it sayed to type sh "driver name here"     but when i do that it says it cant open the file
[22:37] <mryanbrown> what can i do to be able to mount the hdd like a usb stick? have it autorecognized and be able to right click mount/unmount
[22:37] <Slart> taes81: are you typing the name of the driver file correctly?
[22:37] <noor> taes81, it would be typical if you were trying to run a file that did not have execution enabled
[22:37] <mryanbrown> taes81: try to chmode +x
[22:37] <frozenknight> ok. i was trying to mount my windows hard drive to a perminet location so i tried  using the volume tab in the properties section of the HD when mounted. so after copying the information in there i tried un mounting then re mounting (by clicking on the places tab) now it gives me an error.
[22:37] <Slart> taes81: remember, linux is case sensitive.. NVidia isn't the same as nvidia
[22:38] <taes81> yep did that
[22:38] <taes81> do i have to be in x server?
[22:38] <joaopinto> taes81, you should not use the driver downloaded from the NVidia site
[22:38] <Slart> taes81: nope.. in fact the x server shouldn't be running
[22:38] <taes81> mryanbrown:  one sec
[22:38] <Jack_Sparrow> taes81 If the instructions say so.. yes
[22:38] <bardyr> Hey, can someone recommend a tv/dvb application??
[22:38] <joaopinto> if you want the latest version (for some odd reason), just install envyng-gtk, and run it
[22:38] <xenoglossia> Hi again!  I'm dual-booting Win2K and Hardy.  I was playing around with syslinux a couple weeks ago, and now, whenever I try to boot Windows, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23323/.  I don't have my Windows CD anymore.  I can still access Windows via /windows.  I recently discovered several files in /windows that didn't use to be there (namely a file called ldlinux.sys and syslinux.cfg).  I deleted them but the problem pers
[22:38] <xenoglossia> ists.  nhaines pointed me to a tool called ms-sys (http://ms-sys.sourceforge.net/), but (I'm a total novice) I can't quite figure out how to use it.  Help would be great!
[22:39] <noor> joaopinto, what is that envy stuff?  I was wondering about that
[22:39] <chao1> Hi. I was wondering if anyone can tell me how to my usplash to show up. I did two fresh installs of 8.04 and edited the grub kernel entry. and both times all that shows on boot is the black screen and then a few minutes later the log in screen. Not a big deal but it confuses my wife. lol
[22:39] <frozenknight> "mount_point cannot contain the following charicters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)"
[22:39] <row> Anyone know if ICH8R onboard raid will work on the hardy heron dvds (running off the kbuntu 32bit) need to access a partition in the raid set up
[22:39] <joaopinto> taes81, you clearly are new to linux, installing the Nvidia's driver manually may get you into troubles on the next kernel upgrade
[22:39] <bullzeye95> hey guys.  I have a question.  I had installed Ubuntu on my computer, and then broke it... I also managed to break GRUB.  So, I installed Ubuntu again onto another partition, while leaving the old, broken one.  This also fixed my GRUB or installed it again.  If I were to delete my broken partition of Ubuntu, would I have any issues with my current GRUB?
[22:39] <Usiu> Hi
[22:39] <Slart> frozenknight: ah.. hang on.. I know that error
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[22:39] <ubott2> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[22:39] <Usiu> i have a keyboard on laptop lenovo t61p
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> row Probably more trouble than it is worth
[22:39] <Slart> frozenknight: open a terminal and run this "gconf-editor"
[22:39] <Usiu> and brightness up does not work
[22:40] <Usiu> and down as well
[22:40] <joaopinto> noor, its an utility which installs the latest video driver for ATI/NVidia, but it does it being Ubuntu-aware, and makes sure the driver gets recompiled on next kernel upgrades
[22:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[22:40] <ubott2> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[22:40] <Usiu> looks like there is no scancode for this
[22:40] <Usiu> Jack_Sparrow: tired keytouch
[22:40] <taes81> do i just type in the chmod +x "file name here"?
[22:40] <xenoglossia> Also, I can still boot Ubuntu just fine.
[22:40] <OB1FoShoB> what is the format u guys are typing to send a message to a user in big bold red letters... i'm still used to mirc
[22:40] <mryanbrown> ctrl+b
[22:40] <joaopinto> taes81, do NOT proceed by just copy/pasting commands blind
[22:40] <erUSUL> !who | OB1FoShoB
[22:40] <ubott2> OB1FoShoB: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[22:40] <Slart> frozenknight: you'll get a window with a tree on the lef.. there should be "system" at the bottom of that tree.. open it.. then storage, then volumes
[22:41] <frozenknight> Slart, ok
[22:41] <Usiu> Jack_Sparrow: but xev works while there is no keysym for this keycode
[22:41] <mandrake_> !list
[22:41] <ubott2> Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:42] <Slart> frozenknight: now you've got a number of items in the volumes folder named something like _ord_freedesktop_Hal_devices..... click on the first one and look at the right part of the screen.. there should be a key named mount_point
[22:42] <frozenknight> ok
[22:42] <Marce_> Hello, my apache stopped working instantaneously, any help over here?
[22:43] <Marce_> Hello, my apache stopped working instantaneously, any help over here?
[22:43] <joaopinto> Marce_, have you checked the logs ?
[22:43] <Marce_> joaopinto, yep, nothing strange
[22:44] <Marce_> joaopinto, apache.log returns this
[22:44] <joaopinto> what happens when you start it ?
[22:44] <Slart> frozenknight: found it?
[22:44] <Marce_> joaopinto, it starts well, just i can't see the webpages
[22:44] <frozenknight> ya
[22:45] <Marce_> joaopinto, all pages loads in blank
[22:45] <Marce_> joaopinto, tried restarting apache and restarting the system, nothing happens
[22:45] <joaopinto> Marce_, does the request get logged into access.log ?
[22:45] <Marce_> joapinto, what should i get into access.log?
[22:45] <frozenknight> ok got it working now thanks
[22:45] <joaopinto> Marce_, your page requests
[22:46] <joaopinto> did you checked error_log ?
[22:46] <chao1> usplash anyone
[22:46] <robuntu> i just recently installed my graphics drivers, and now my log in screen is 640x 512ish and it cuts off 3/4 of the screen.
[22:46] <Slart> frozenknight: the value of that key cannot contain a space or / or \ or any other "weird" characters
[22:46] <asmodai[B]> what is the name of the default package installed for remote desktop? is the package just called rdesktop ?
[22:46] <Marce_> joaopinto,i do tail -f and i load a page and it doesn't refresh
[22:47] <Rincewynde> Hi all, would someone be so kind as to help me configure Ubuntu to output sound via Coax out? This works in XP fine, but I select "ALC880 Digital" in sound preferences, and test it, and there's no output. I've tried the #ALSA channel, and had a good look around the forum but am at a loss. any help would be greatly appreciated
[22:47] <asmodai[B]> and with rdesktop do I need any other packages to be able to connect with the rdp that comes with XP?
[22:47] <frozenknight> I deleted all the keys so that it matched my other hd and it started working like before
[22:47] <chao1> Can anyone tell me how to get my usplash to show
[22:48] <Slart> frozenknight: ah. nice
[22:48] <robuntu> anyone?
[22:48] <cara> ASULutzy: it didn't work
[22:49] <Marce_> joaopinto, error.log doesn't show me anything
[22:49] <Marce_> respecting that
[22:49] <sebablu1> Hi, I am getting the following error when executing a program: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_thread-gcc41-mt-1_34_1.so.1.34.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ... I think I am missing this library ... anyone knows how to get it installed?
[22:49] <joaopinto> Marce_, I have no further options, never had issues not logged into error log
[22:49] <Slart> frozenknight: when you specify a mountpoint in the "properties"-thingy for a drive you only decide what the last part of the mountpoint should be.. so if you write "mybackupdrive" for mountpoint it will be mounted in /media/mybackupdrive... you can't change the first part using that settings window
[22:49] <joaopinto> sebablu1, what program is it and how did you install it ?
[22:50] <Marce_> joaopinto, it seems that the dns doesn't works, thank you for your time
[22:50] <sebablu1> it is a robot control engine ... running though an sh script
[22:50] <joaopinto> Marce_, you dont need dns to browse local pages, your server host should be on /etc/hosts
[22:50] <ASULutzy> cara: Hmmm?
[22:50] <arooni-mobile> how big should my / partition be on my new hard drive?  currently its set at 18.63GB ... and i'm using 10.42GB.... (running ubuntu hardy)
[22:50] <ASULutzy> cara: What didn't work?
[22:50] <joaopinto> I mean, I was assuming you were browsing locally
[22:50] <ASULutzy> arooni-mobile: Personal preference, no one can tell you how much space to devote to your Ubuntu install.
[22:50] <robuntu> i just recently installed my graphics drivers, and now my log in screen is 640x 512ish and it cuts off 3/4 of the screen.
[22:51] <Slart> arooni-mobile: if you have /home on another partition you only need about 10-15
[22:51] <Slart> GB
[22:51] <Marce_> joaopinto, i have a web server in my intranet that i work, i just see the pages by internet trough the .com domain
[22:51] <Slart> arooni-mobile: but it's really up to how you use your computer
[22:51] <joaopinto> sebablu1, it depends on a specific library, libboost, you can install the one available for ubuntu, but it may not be compatible with the one used to link that app
[22:51] <frozenknight> Slart, my original goal was to attempt to give the HD a permanent mount point so that i could link firefox and thunderbird to my windows firefox and thunderbird so that any bookmarks or e-mails i have are in the same spot
[22:51] <joaopinto> Marce_, ok :)
[22:52] <Marce_> joaopinto, thank u :>
[22:52] <arooni-mobile> Slart, so 20gb is more than enough?
[22:52] <Slart> frozenknight: hmm.. don't really think you can do that.. but I'm not sure
[22:52] <Slart> arooni-mobile: for regular use, yes
[22:52] <robuntu> anyone?
[22:52] <sebablu1> thanks joaopinto, I can not find it from the program installer ... where should I look for please?
[22:52] <joaopinto> sebablu1, doesn't that soft come with the source ?
[22:53] <arooni-mobile> Slart, would there ever need to be more?
[22:53] <joaopinto> It would be better to built it from source
[22:53] <sebablu1> yes it does
[22:53] <ASULutzy> cara: You alive out there?
[22:53] <eric_> Does this sound possible to anyone: I upgraded my kernel with virtualbox ose stuff and now my system is acting all whacked, compiz stopped working and my sound no longer works, I haven't installed anything else recently
[22:53] <joaopinto> so you should compile
[22:53] <joaopinto> !compile | sebablu1
[22:53] <ubott2> sebablu1: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[22:53] <arooni-mobile> Slart, what should i format the root partition to?  ext3?
[22:53] <Slart> arooni-mobile: sure, if you install lots of software... download lots of source code etc you'll eventually fill that partitin
[22:53] <sebablu1> all right, will do, thanks a lot
[22:53] <arooni-mobile> Slart, i guess i can always resize later right?
[22:53] <ASULutzy> arooni-mobile: Yes, ext3
[22:54] <Slart> arooni-mobile: ext3 is the safe middleroad when it comes to file systems.. it's nice enough
[22:54] <robuntu> i just recently installed my graphics drivers, and now my log in screen is 640x 512ish and it cuts off 3/4 of the screen.
[22:54] <arooni-mobile> Slart, what about primary or logical parittion?
[22:54] <Slart> arooni-mobile: go with primary if you can
[22:54] <arooni-mobile> Slart, do i want to check round to cylinders?
[22:54] <eric_> is it possible to go back to my previous kernel image before virtualbox patched it with the ose stuff?
[22:54] <Slart> arooni-mobile: you can only have 4 primary partitions on a hard drive
[22:54] <linuxpower1> veronica, you here?
[22:54] <Slart> arooni-mobile: as you wish.. doesn't really make a big difference
[22:55] <ASULutzy> eric_: Huh? What exactly do you mean
[22:55] <eric_> Does this sound possible to anyone: I upgraded my kernel with virtualbox ose stuff and now my system is acting all whacked, compiz stopped working and my sound no longer works, I haven't installed anything else recently
[22:55] <arooni-mobile> Slart, what is reiserfs?
[22:55] <frozenknight> Slart, I've managed to get thunderbird to access my E-mail in windows as though it's it's own by using "thunderbird -profilemanager"
[22:55] <Slart> arooni-mobile: another file system.. good with many small files
[22:55] <arooni-mobile> Slart, so /home partitions should be the same (primary + ext3)?
[22:55] <microwaver> what's a command to reset the layout ?
[22:55] <eric_> i didn't want to go with vmware, after i installed virutalbox it told me i needed to add ose stuff, now i have a whole bunch of problems
[22:55] <Slart> arooni-mobile: if you have to ask that question here then yes.. use ext3 for everything =)
[22:56] <ASULutzy> eric_: As in you did sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-modules-2.whatever kernel you have?
[22:56] <car1> ASULutzy: yeah it didn't work
[22:56] <arooni-mobile> Slart, got it; thanks!
[22:56] <eric_> i did whatever command it asked me to do, but i think it was that
[22:56] <eric_> i beleive it said to use generic actually
[22:56] <cara> I'm getting the same thing I've been getting all day
[22:56] <Slart> frozenknight: ah.. sweet.. haven't even thought about it.. good to knoe
[22:56] <joaopinto> eric_, and you added your user to the vbox group ?
[22:56] <ASULutzy> cara: You sure you did it right?
[22:56] <eric_> would that affect sound?
[22:56] <ASULutzy>  cara: lol, what happened after you told ndisgtk to use the .inf file?
[22:57] <ASULutzy> eric_: I can't think of how installing virtualbox could hose your system
[22:57] <arooni-mobile> Slart,  how big should my swap partition be?  (i have 2gb of ram right now;  but may add a gig or two in the future ) ......
[22:57] <Slart> arooni-mobile: laptop?
[22:57] <arooni-mobile> Slart, desktop
[22:57] <joaopinto> eric_, are we talking about using virtualbox, or a sound issue ?
[22:57] <arooni-mobile> Slart, its a 300gb drive
[22:57] <eric_> i don't care about sing Virtualbox at this point
[22:57] <frozenknight> Slart, ya that is why i'm trying to get a perm mount point so that i can have FireFox and Thunderbird both act that way at startup
[22:57] <eric_> i just want my system to work
[22:57] <Slart> arooni-mobile: I would go with 2GB of swap.. there's an old rule that says to use 2xRAM for swap.. but it's old.. very old
[22:57] <OB1FoShoB> eric_: try xvm version
[22:57] <eric_> compiz gave me the white screen of death no matter how many times i reinstalled
[22:57] <cara> I clicked on the button to setup the network, everything was grayed out, even the Unlock button, also, the device didn't show up in the NetworkManager.
[22:57] <joaopinto> eric_, virtualbox is not related to your sound issue
[22:57] <microwaver> what's a command to reset the layout ? gnome / xfce / kde i mean
[22:58] <cara> This is the same thing I"ve been getting all day
[22:58] <eric_> how do i diagnose the sound issue first and foremost
[22:58] <joaopinto> !resetapplets | microwaver
[22:58] <ubott2> Factoid resetapplets not found
[22:58] <Slart> arooni-mobile: it's different if you're using a laptop where the swap will be used to store the contents of the memory when hibernating.. then you have to have at least as much swap as ram
[22:58] <eric_> the volume button says no device, but device manager lists it (internal intel hd audio (actual sigmatel i believe) on a dell laptop
[22:58] <arooni-mobile> Slart, i guess i can always resize swap later
[22:58] <NW2190> hey, does anyone know how to install/set-up a logitech usb microphone?
[22:58] <Slart> !swap
[22:58] <ubott2> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[22:58] <eric_> are you guys sure that it didn't modify the kernel and that is why all this stuff started to happen?
[22:59] <microwaver> joaopinto, my dear chairman, it isn't seem to be working :p
[22:59] <Slart> check that link, arooni-mobile
[22:59] <ASULutzy> cara: Did you actually do what I said?
[22:59] <ASULutzy> cara: Installing ndisgtk and the the windows driver (the .inf file)
[22:59] <cara> yes yes
[22:59] <cara> pointed it to the inf file
[22:59] <cara> the one you told me to get
[22:59] <ASULutzy> !who
[22:59] <ubott2> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[22:59] <joaopinto> eric_, it just added new kernel modules, it is not expected to affect other modules, if you do believe it did, just revert the change and remove the vbox modules
[22:59] <cara> lol sorry ASULutzy
[23:00] <eric_> how to do that exactly?
[23:00] <ASULutzy> cara: So you pointed it to the .inf file, what does iwconfig say now?
[23:00]  * cara will prefix comments with ASULutzy
[23:00] <cara> ASULutzy: it shows my device but nothing can be done with it
[23:00] <eric_> i want to go back before the vbox changes first before i diagnose everything else
[23:00] <cara> ASULutzy: I even tried manually pointing it an access point and it didn't work
[23:00] <joaopinto> eric_, go to the package manager, and remove all the virtualbox* packages
[23:01] <frozenknight> another question, the tempature for my area is always off by a lot,right now it's in the mis 80's outside and the temp shows that it's 51.8
[23:01] <ASULutzy> cara: So does it see any access points? Have you tried using iwconfig to manually hook it up to an AP? (and is the AP using WPA-PSK or anything like that?)
[23:01] <eric_> i already did that
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ Were you trying to install a version other than the one available in our repos
[23:01] <arooni-mobile> i have two 300 GB seagate drives.... drive a is currently being used and has /root/ and /home/ on it... and is named /sda/ but is currently dying...  drive b is not being used.  what i want to do is insert drive b and duplicate drive a to drive b.  then i want to start booting from drive b so i can rma drive a.  both drives are now in my system and i've formatted drive b with 3 partitions (sdb1 for /root @ 20gb, sdb2 for /hom
[23:01] <arooni-mobile> e @ 264GB, and sdb3 for linux-swap).  what should i do now?
[23:01] <cara> ASULutzy: yes lol (I just said that)
[23:01] <cara> ASULutzy: dmesg reports that the link is down for some odd reason
[23:02] <arooni-mobile> i.e. how should i move the data?
[23:02] <ASULutzy> cara: I thought you meant you manually pointed it to an AP using network manager, which isn't quite as trustworthy as using iwconfig in the command line
[23:02] <eric_> i beleive i used apt-get install virutalbox, ran it, it told me to run a command to patch the kernel
[23:02] <eric_> i did what ti told me
[23:02] <cara> ASULutzy: I don't think its related to the ssb thing because my driver is the tg3 driver
[23:02] <eric_> then when after my next reboot, compiz stopped working (white screen) and audio no longer works
[23:02] <eric_> since its too seemingly unrelated issues out of the blue, i assume it has to do with virtualbox
[23:02] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ Did you change any sources before the apt-get
[23:02] <joaopinto> eric_, have you installed virtualbox from the repositories, or from the VB site ?
[23:02] <eric_> for the repos
[23:02] <eric_> *from the repos
[23:03] <eric_> i have 3rd party sources, yes
[23:03] <eric_> but they are application specific
[23:03] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ doesnt matter...
[23:03] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[23:03] <ASULutzy> cara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff has solved most of my broadcom issues,  but other than that, no clue
[23:04] <arooni-mobile> how should i move all the data from one partition to another partition (on another drive).... especially if i want to replace the drive i'm moving data on to (which contains /home/ and /root/)
[23:04] <cara> ASULutzy: yeah I looked at that too, didn't work for me.  I wonder who I should contact regarding my issue
[23:05] <eric_> http://pastebin.com/f5886bae5
[23:05] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ looking now
[23:05] <ASULutzy> cara: No clue, that page is like the holy grail for getting broadcoms working, all is lost if it didn't work
[23:05] <eric_> ok
[23:05] <eric_> now that you mention it, i do believe somehting else might have updated
[23:05] <eric_> *upgraded
[23:06] <wasob> Hey all..I am getting "No screens found" After I upgraded to Gutsy....
[23:06] <mandrake_> irc://irc.mp3planet-panama.org/mp3planet /ctcp DS|Bot xdcc send #8
[23:06] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ mixing gutsy and hardy repos is not a good idea
[23:06] <powertool|lappy> Can somebody tell me why my ssh pubkey is denied? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24092/
[23:06] <eric_> i see, that i have done that
[23:07] <eric_> i would hope i would have noticed that, must have been following directions from some tutorial, though i hope it said okay for hardy
[23:07] <eric_> so is that neccesarily what boinked me here?
[23:07] <eric_> and if so, what should i do now
[23:08] <eric_> or should I just reinstall?
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ It may nave been what got you...  I have no way of knowing.. I would remove # the gutsy repo  update, upgrade and hope for the best
[23:08] <eric_> okay i will try that and come back in a few
[23:08] <phreaker-RoT> hello!
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ You know a single command in a terminal will backup everything for you..
[23:08] <eric_> but if i remove the repos for gutsy then it only see the hardy and replaces them?
[23:08] <eric_> back everythign up in terms of what
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ yes
[23:09] <eric_> i can just ghost...
[23:09] <eric_> or can't i just copy my ~ dir
[23:09] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ If you after you reinstall..  you can doa system backup very easily
[23:09] <eric_> or is there other stuff i should back up, i don't want to save my apt-get install list because i probably have the wrong stuff installed because of it, no?
[23:09] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ too late for a backup
[23:09] <HaCKeT|FiZZ> anybody installed serendipity (s9y) via pt-get by any chance on hardy?
[23:10] <eric_> ?
[23:10] <eric_> so should i not use this command?
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ for the next time
[23:10] <eric_> okay
[23:10] <eric_> the command is?
[23:10] <madmn> how do you copy a file in ubuntu ?
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ the command is fine..  just backup if you end up reinstalling or create a sep /home.. it will save you a lot of frustration
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> madmn cp
[23:11] <eric_> the command is called "fine.." ??
[23:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[23:11] <ubott2> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[23:11] <madmn> there is more to it then that tho right from one directory to another
[23:11] <phreaker-RoT> i had a problem the other day after installing ubuntu. i got grub errors 17 and 18
[23:11] <eric_> oh
[23:11] <phreaker-RoT> i never got to boot ubuntu
[23:11] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/dev --exclude=/lost+found  --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys --exclude=/media --exclude=/root/.Trash -- /
[23:11] <eric_> okay, but for now, as long as I copy my home dir and reinstall i should be fine?
[23:12] <fg3> I can use remote X display when using putty to log into ubuntu, but after su - newuser, I can no longer use remote X -- any ideas?
[23:12] <eric_> oh that is a cute command
[23:12] <madmn> is there a way to do it in graphical interface
[23:12] <mroc> hi.  i used the "connect to other wireless network" option to add one with a hidden ssid.  whenever i try to connect to it i'm prompted for a password to unlock the keyring.  how can i remove the password?  i don't want to have to enter it every time.
[23:12] <madmn> copy a file from one directory to another
[23:12] <Jack_Sparrow> madmn mautilus, thunar etc
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> nautilus
[23:13] <Julia_> help! my graphics don't work.
[23:13] <madmn> are they in ubuntu 8
[23:13] <eric_> but for now, since i don't care about apps, all my personal files are in ~, correct? so if i do a fresh install i can just copy back thunderbird, firefox, opera, etc?
[23:13] <joaopinto> eric_, correct
[23:13] <eric_> okay
[23:13] <linuxpower1> Julia_-> are you somebody i know?
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ yes everything should be in ~   but double check your bookmarks and save them to your desktop
[23:13] <arooni> i'm trying to copy partitions from drive A => drive B.  i've created destination partitions for drive b.... (/dev/sdb1), (/dev/sdb2) ... but there are currently no mount points for these drives.  on /dev/sdb1 i want to copy from /dev/sda1 (root partition) and on /dev/sbd2 i want to copy from /dev/sda2 (home partition).... what do i do now?
[23:13] <Julia_> linuxpower1: probably not.
[23:14] <linuxpower1> ok
[23:14] <eric_> well, how uncommon is it to have to redo your install, really....
[23:14] <Julia_> can you help me?
[23:14] <eric_> luckily most of my actual data is external
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni I would use the dd command to clone the drive or partitions
[23:14] <eric_> just going to export my apt-get list anyway
[23:14] <FarmCretin> hi, im prety new to linux (Saturday) and my last gripe with it is the sharing with xbox 360. now im using ubuntu server with samba and i was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to help me getting it settup correctly, or recommend a better app?
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> eric_ good luck, sorry it wasnt a simpler soultion
[23:14] <arooni> Jack_Sparrow, but can it work if there are no mount ponits?
[23:15] <phreaker-RoT> why does ubuntu use /dev/sda when my disk is actually IDE?
[23:15] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni yes it is a clone right down to the uuid's
[23:15] <wepeel> Hi all. I have a second hard drive in my machine that I want all users to be able to have read/write acess to. How can I change it from what it is now (users have read only access, I believe)
[23:15] <arooni> Jack_Sparrow, do you know how to use it?
[23:15] <Jack_Sparrow> phreaker-RoT THat changed as of gutsy..
[23:15] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni let me find it for you
[23:16] <phreaker-RoT> Jack_Sparrow what changed and what's gutsy?
[23:16] <Julia_> I bought a new laptop, and I don't know how to install the graphics drivers. I went to restricted drivers, and it went crazy. So I downloaded the latest drivers from the internet, and they won't install.
[23:16] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Dd
[23:17] <Julia_> I have an ASUS G1SN. It has nvidia 9500M GS
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sda1 conv=noerror,sync bs=4k         etc
[23:17] <arooni> Jack_Sparrow, you mean this:         dd - convert and copy a file ?
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 conv=noerror,sync bs=4k         etc
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni is the new drive the same size or bigger then the old?
[23:18] <joaopinto> arooni, you can also use partimage
[23:18] <Sneedly> hello, I have a drawing tablet i bought off of woot the other week and i was hoping there was a way to use it, with out installing windows
[23:18] <arooni> Jack_Sparrow, bigger partitions in both cases
[23:18] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni read that page I linked or use part image
[23:19] <arooni> Jack_Sparrow, whats easier?  i'm  a linux noob
[23:19] <joaopinto> dd will copy unused areas, it will take longer than partimage
[23:19] <arooni> so sounds like partimage is better?
[23:19] <joaopinto> partimage is easier, it provides a text interface
[23:19] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni Old school.. I always use dd
[23:20] <philsf> how can I use LC_* environment vars so I can use a different language from my locale? Whatever I try, only works for console/terminals - gnome ignores it whatsoever. I tried setting in my .bashrc, .bash_profile and /etc/environment. What can I do now?
[23:20] <joaopinto> dd is a low level tool, best fit for experts and not as smart as partimage :P
[23:20] <sirelfman> hello, I'm having a problem connecting to my windows machines. I have tried several things I have found on ubuntu.com and through google searches, but nothing has seems to work.
[23:20] <arooni> joaopinto, so i can just run sudo partimage and it'll awlk me through it?
[23:20] <joaopinto> arooni, yes
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni Make sure you get the source and targets right..
[23:20] <joaopinto> assuming it's installed :P
[23:21] <arooni> joaopinto,  just installed it.  unsure if i need to use an image file to create/use\
[23:21] <sonink> hello. can anyone help me with custom usplash stuff?
[23:21] <arooni> do i want to create an image file on the replacement hard drive?
[23:21] <amenado> sirelfman-> what have you tried so far?
[23:21] <joaopinto> arooni, hum, you need, it doesn't support disk2disk
[23:21] <victor__> has anyone programmed atmel in linux?, how much does a programmer compatible with linux cost?
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> sonink grub splash gdm splash ?
[23:22] <sonink> sparrow: grub splash
[23:22] <arooni> joaopinto,  huh?  so you're saying this software doesnt work for what i'm trying to do?
[23:22] <joaopinto> arooni, sorry, forgot that detail :P
[23:22] <joaopinto> arooni, back to dd :P
[23:22] <lymeca> Why is the latest fglrx with the envy package only 8.4?  The latest is 8.6!
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> victor__ Yes they work.  kinda offtopic in here.. but search for eeprom burners linux
[23:22] <mryanbrown> who cares
[23:22] <mryanbrown> ati support for nix wont improve much by .2
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> sonink I can walk you through that.
[23:23] <sirelfman> amenado-> I managed (i think) to at least the linux box in the right workgroup by editing smb.conf. I can see the windows network, and the workgroup MSHOME, but when I click on MSHOME, nothing shows up in the window
[23:23] <arooni> The option "bs=4k" is used to specify the block size used in the copy. The default for the dd command is 512 bytes: use of this small block size can result in significantly slower copying. However, the tradeoff with larger block sizes is that when an error is encountered, the remainder of the block is filled with zero-bytes.
[23:23] <arooni> what size block size should i use?
[23:23] <sonink> sparrow: I've worked through this page but it's not very helpful imo https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> sonink Did you already have a known working splash.xpm.gz
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> sonink or were you trying to create your own
[23:24] <sonink> trying to create my own
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> sonink please /join #Jack_Sparrow so we dont spam the channel
[23:24] <amenado> sirelfman-> on linux, foreign file systems has to be mounted, there smbfs has to be mounted,
[23:24] <joaopinto> arooni, just follow the previous recommendations from Jack_Sparrow
[23:25] <victor__> ok Jack_Sparrow, thanks
[23:26] <davidf> Hi, I need to install a cd r/w drive and don't know how exactly. Could anyone help walk me throuh it please?
[23:26] <davidf> In lts 6.06
[23:26] <sirelfman> amenado-> Yeah, I got that from what I read elsewhere, but I haven't be able to find a set of instructions I really understood on exactly how to do that, or that I could follow well enought to get it work
[23:26] <arooni> Jack_Sparrow, how long does it take for 20GB?  for 100GB?  i ran the command and i'm not getting any output... am i doing it right?
[23:26] <arooni> Jack_Sparrow, is it ok to run dd in another terminal simultaneously (for a different partition)?
[23:27] <joaopinto> arooni, the timing depends on your disk's specifications
[23:27] <DeadKennedy2880> !polls
[23:27] <ubott2> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[23:27] <joaopinto> dd does run silently
[23:27] <sirelfman> amenado->is that something I have to do through the smb.conf also, mounting a foreign file system
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni bad idea
[23:27] <arooni> Jack_Sparrow, ok one at a time then ;p
[23:27] <arooni> Jack_Sparrow, will this make it so that i can just take out the old drive and ubuntu will know to boot from fresh hard drive?
[23:28] <arooni> you mentinoed before it copies uuids & such
[23:28] <m_newton> Hi, can i get help concerning Virtual Hosting with apache??
[23:28] <amenado> sirelfman-> you can do it manually via smbmount command
[23:28] <tonino77> ciao
[23:28] <tonino77> a tutti
[23:28] <sirelfman> amenado-> How would I do that
[23:28] <adelie42> How do I add a custom icon to a 'custom application launcher' applet (toolbar button) from a png?
[23:29] <tonino77> im italian
[23:29] <tonino77> hello
[23:29] <tonino77> main name is antonio
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni yes
[23:29] <sirelfman> amenado-> I'm used to poking and proding
[23:29] <amenado> sirelfman-> see if you have the manual,  man smbmount
[23:29] <trashguy> anyone have an issue where if you relog or reboot the machine doesn't maintain the gnome theme you have chosen
[23:30] <arooni> Jack_Sparrow, awesome!! thanks a lot for your help
[23:30] <sirelfman> amenado->in a terminal window, right?
[23:30] <amenado> sirelfman-> yes in a cli,  something like  sudo smbmount //<IP_ADDRESS>/Music /home/dbott/music -o username=dbott,password=mysecretpassword,uid=1000,mask=000
[23:31] <adelie42> trashguy: there is likely a problem with your xorg config crashing gnome. when gnome crashes, it goes to a failsafe mode with no theme
[23:31] <trashguy> adelie42, machien shutsdown fine form what i see
[23:31] <OB1FoShoB> getting 'Error removing file: Permission denied' when trying to delete items from trash, any thoughts?
[23:31] <trashguy> wheres the working xorg conf
[23:31] <trashguy> the /etc/x11 one looks kibnda empty
[23:32] <mroc> hi.  i used the "connect to other wireless network" option to add one with a hidden ssid.  whenever i try to connect to it i'm prompted for a password to unlock the keyring.  how can i remove the password?  i don't want to have to enter it every time.
[23:32] <sirelfman> amenado->ahhh, on and the man smbmount command said "no manual for smbmount" can I install it from the package manager?
[23:32] <amenado> sirelfman-> here is a link:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280473
[23:32] <victor__> trashguy, X11 ?
[23:32]  * hkkmXQ31s blinks
[23:32] <gnull0> Hi. I'd like to use the shell to do a command on a bunch of files with the same extention; changing them to another extention. I'd like to use a loop, but then I end up with something like "for x in *.txt;do $action $x;done" -what I'd like to know how to do is how can I strip off the old extention (eg "txt" in the example)?
[23:32] <trashguy> victor__,  isnt that where the xorg.conf is
[23:32] <philsf> how can I use LC_* environment vars so I can use a different language from my locale? Whatever I try, only works for console/terminals - gnome ignores it whatsoever. I tried setting in my .bashrc, .bash_profile and /etc/environment. What can I do now?
[23:32] <victor__> gnull0, why dont u just use wildcards
[23:33] <victor__> trashguy, you wrote x11, did you tried X11 ? (upper case X)
[23:33] <trashguy> victor__,  yes X11
[23:33] <victor__> ok
[23:33] <adelie42> the file is /etx/X11/xorg.conf, but I forget what package to reconfigure. I just remember you use `dpkg --reconfigure <package name>` to do it
[23:34] <trashguy> victor__,  its like short not much of what id expect ina normal xorg.conf
[23:34] <victor__> oh
[23:34] <gnull0> victor__: because I don't know that will work as reliably as using a for loop will work. Plus on commands such as mv and cp you'd end up with all the files listed thrown together into a large blob (whatever you list as the target); which is not what I'd want.
[23:34] <trashguy> FreeBSD one has much mor einfo
[23:34] <Xavura> I'm using the built-in thing into Ubuntu to connec to FTP and every so often it just stops working, I have to go into my website's cPanel and end the 15+ current FTP sessions to get it working again. Why is it creating so many connections? There should only be 1...
[23:34] <victor__> trashguy, they made "improvements" in hardy so you don't need a long xorg.conf
[23:34] <cara> ASULutzy: ?
[23:34] <Firefishe> adelie42:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:35] <trashguy> victor__,  meh
[23:35] <unop> philsf, what are you trying to do with the LC_* variables? change the language?
[23:35] <victor__> "improvements" because I have a monitor that doesnt get recognized -_- bah, and I had to use 800x600
[23:35] <trashguy> lol
[23:35] <victor__> I had to modify it by hand
[23:35] <victor__> didnt happen in gutsy
[23:35] <sirelfman> amenado->if I want to mount these shares automatically each time I start Ubuntu, do I just put those same commands in the smb.conf, or is that explained in the link
[23:36] <philsf> unop: exactly
[23:36] <philsf> unop: while keeping everything else
[23:37] <rusod> hi all
[23:37] <rusod> i have some problems.. with this keyboard..
[23:37] <trashguy> the sauce is weak
[23:37] <rusod> anyone can help me ?
[23:38] <philsf> unop: there are issues in particular to using the desktop in english while writing in portuguese, and I was told the best solution to this is to use the LC_* vars
[23:38] <amenado> sirelfman-> explained on the link, it has to be in the /etc/fstab
[23:38] <Xavura> Can anyone help with my ftp problem?
[23:39] <Sneedly> !hand writing
[23:39] <ubott2> Factoid hand writing not found
[23:39] <rusod> i have a logitech coordless ex110 keyboard connected on my notebook
[23:39] <unop> philsf, try these two commands.   sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales;  select the locale you want installing and adjust system>administration>language suport
[23:39] <wasob>  Has anyone had Xserver problems after upgrading to gutsy?
[23:39] <Sneedly> !digipro
[23:39] <ubott2> Factoid digipro not found
[23:39] <Sneedly> !twin-view
[23:39] <ubott2> Factoid twin-view not found
[23:39] <Sneedly> !dualhead
[23:39] <ubott2> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[23:39] <unop> philsf, if you still want to keep the english desktop but still occasionally use an application for portuguese, i think you might need to adjust the LANG variable too
[23:40] <unop> philsf, you still need to install the portuguese locales tho
[23:40] <DeadKennedy2880> rusod - whats the prob?
[23:40] <luke__> hello
[23:40] <rusod> thx DeadKennedy2880
[23:40] <sirelfman> amenado->okay, i'll go give that link a closer read, and see what i can get going.
[23:41] <sirelfman> amenado->thanks alot
[23:41] <rusod> the prob is that some keys (ej: ang brackets) dont function
[23:41] <luke__> i need open gl but cant find a download for ubuntu 8.04
[23:41] <DeadKennedy2880> rusod - most other keys work though?
[23:41] <amenado> sirelfman-> you're welcome
[23:41] <rusod> yeap :(
[23:42] <rusod> but i need write tags!!! jeje
[23:42] <DeadKennedy2880> rusod - have you tested other keyboard layouts?
[23:42] <unop> rusod, what country keyboard is it?
[23:42] <luke__> i need opengl but cant find a download for ubuntu 8.04
[23:42] <m-c> !ask |Xavura
[23:43] <ubott2> Xavura: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:43] <rusod> is spanish (sorry my english please)
[23:43] <rusod> and my notebook keyboard too
[23:43] <rusod> is spanish
[23:43] <Xavura> m-c: I have already asked like 5 times today...
[23:43] <DeadKennedy2880> rusod - have you tested other keyboard layouts?
[23:43] <luke__> i need open gl but cant find a download for ubuntu 8.04
[23:43] <unop> rusod, try this at a terminal.    setxkmap es  # and test your keys out
[23:43] <luke__> i need open gl but cant find a download for ubuntu 8.04
[23:43] <luke__> i need open gl but cant find a download for ubuntu 8.04
[23:43] <luke__> i need open gl but cant find a download for ubuntu 8.04
[23:43] <unop> !repeat | luke__
[23:43] <ubott2> luke__: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[23:43] <rusod> DeadKennedy2880, yes i tested all!! lol
[23:44] <m-c> Xavura: Oh, I just scrolled up.  What FTP program?
[23:44] <ShinjinAkage> What is the super key?
[23:44] <rusod> when i cat /dev/input/event12
[23:44] <zcat[1]> ShinjinAkage, windows key by default
[23:44] <joshu> luke__: Why don't you search for it in a package manager?
[23:44] <Xavura> m-c: I'm using the built-in way to connect to FTP in Ubuntu
[23:44] <gnomefreak> luke__: please stop repeating. have you tried opening synaptic and searching for it? or even apt-cache search opengl
[23:44] <gizmobay> Does anyone know what I need to add to the xorg.conf file in order to force a specific monitor refresh rate?
[23:44] <ShinjinAkage> Okay thanks
[23:44] <m-c> Xavura: I am not sure what that means.  Try gFTP.  Works for me
[23:45] <DeadKennedy2880> rusod - try what unop said
[23:45] <gnomefreak> luke__: its there but it might be named differnet ( i dont remember exact name of it)
[23:45] <Xavura> m-c: Places > Connect to Server > FTP (with login)
[23:45] <Xavura> I'm using that and I like it but I'm having problems
[23:45] <rusod> it put fruit even when i dont have press anything yet
[23:46] <koshari> luke__: open gl is a graphics system, and usually to use such you would need the 3d drivers for your graphics hardware
[23:46] <rusod> okis
[23:46] <ShinjinAkage> I downloaded the compiz fusion icon and none of the effects appear to be working. Any suggestions?
[23:46] <m-c> Xavura: File a bug report, then.
[23:47] <arooni> Jack_Sparrow, does this look good?  4883752+1 records in; 4883753+0 records out?  and also, if the partition i'm copying TO are larger than the ones i'm copying from, is this OK?
[23:47] <rusod> no changes...
[23:47] <koshari> ShinjinAkage what do you mean you downloaded the icon?
[23:47] <wasob> Why would a dist upgrade cause "No screens found"???
[23:47] <Sneedly> where can i pay someone to set up some features for me
[23:47] <rusod> same thing..
[23:47] <Xavura> m-c: I don't know where/how to and I don't know if it's even a bug, it's just annoying
[23:47] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni yes looks fine
[23:47] <RainCT> ShinjinAkage: does Compiz work if you start it without fusion-icon?
[23:47] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni you do not need to do your swap partition..
[23:47] <ShinjinAkage> keshari: It was the name of the program in the synaptic. It's supposed to be a manger thing.
[23:47] <philsf> unop: I think I was not clear enough. I want to use everything in english, but still be able to write in portuguese (accents)
[23:47] <arooni> Jack_Sparrow, right;  but as far as the sizes being different; thats ok?
[23:47] <m-c> Xavura: Sounds like a bug to me.  File them at launchpad.net
[23:47] <koshari> Sneedly a school? maybe a linux users group (lug)
[23:48] <ShinjinAkage> RoinCT: It doesn't appear to be.
[23:48] <unop> philsf, i don't see why you don't change the keyboard layout to portuguese then? :)
[23:48] <rusod> :(
[23:48] <koshari> ShinjinAkage do you mean you want to install the compiz advanved manager?
[23:48] <m-c> Sneedly: Many people will program for money.  How much are you willing to spend?
[23:48] <philsf> unop: hold on, I'll give you an url
[23:49] <RainCT> ShinjinAkage: Alt+F2, type    compiz --replace    and when it's loaded check if the title bars of inactive windows are semi-transparent
[23:49] <ShinjinAkage> keshari: No, that was the name of the manager in the add and remove programs. When I open it the title bar says compizConfig Settings
[23:49] <philsf> unop: bug #228077
[23:49] <ubott2> Launchpad bug 228077 in gnome-control-center "libgtk2 immodules has cedilla disabled in en locales" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/228077
[23:50] <ShinjinAkage> alt+F12 isn't doing anything.
[23:50] <philsf> unop basically, I can't use the c-cedilla (ç) in english
[23:50] <RainCT> ShinjinAkage: F2
[23:50] <philsf> unop: I traced it back to gtk2, and upstream said WONTFIX
[23:50] <mroc> hi.  i changed my login password after entering the key for an encrypted network.  now i'm prompted to unlock the keyring every time.  how do i fix this?
[23:51] <rusod> in the notebook keyboard is all right
[23:51] <ShinjinAkage> RoinCT: They are still the same.
[23:51] <ShinjinAkage> RoinCT; Just to make sure I was to type "compiz --replace"
[23:52] <philsf> unop: it was them that told me to use LC_*
[23:52] <rusod> but in my logitech coordless  ex100 keyboard not
[23:52] <philsf> unop: btw, dpkg-reconfigure locales only sets the whole LC_* bunch to the desired locale,
[23:52] <koshari> ShinjinAkage what are you actually trying to do? are you saying the basic compiz settings dont work?
[23:52] <demism> how can I find out where and what it is a package installs and has?
[23:53] <rusod> demism: apt-file
[23:53] <unop> philsf, ok, LC_* aside, does your keyboard have the ability to type in the c-cedilla character without '+ c' i.e. a dedicated key ?
[23:53] <sun01tech> my firefox version says 3.0b5 is that the latest version...add/remove already has it checked
[23:53] <ShinjinAkage> Keshari: I'm trying to get some desktop effects to make it look better. The default ones wouldn't load so I tried to download some from add and remove programs.
[23:53] <DeadKennedy2880> rusod - ubuntu recognized the logitech wireless keyboard without you doing anything else (no drivers to install)?
[23:53] <philsf> unop: my desktop has a localized keyboard. my laptop doesn't
[23:54] <OB1FoShoB> sub01tech: 3.0 is final on hardy
[23:54] <philsf> unop: it's the laptop that's giving me the pita in this case
[23:54] <sun01tech> OB1FoShoB: i already have hardy i had the beta that came with it...do i uninstall it and reinstall?
[23:54] <RainCT> ShinjinAkage: and if you right click on the desktop, change background and go to the tab 'desktop effects', are they enable?
[23:54] <rusod> ubuntu recognized a generic keyboard
[23:54] <gnomefreak> sun01tech: sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:55] <gnomefreak> sun01tech: its final in Hardy
[23:55] <unop> philsf, and editing gtk.immodules does nothing constructive?
[23:55] <OB1FoShoB> sun01tech:           sudo apt-get update        then            sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:55] <gnomefreak> sun01tech: (hardy)gnomefreak@Development:~$ policy firefox-3.0 3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:55] <philsf> unop: If I ignore gtk's devels recomendations, and change the gtk immmodules config, I still don't get a coherent locale configuration (for example, wish/tk apps still print ć)
[23:55] <rusod> seems that philsf have a similar problem
[23:56] <ShinjinAkage> RoinCT: No, they won't enable. That's why I was looking for some in the add and remove programs thing. Is there not a set of separate ones I can download if those don't work.
[23:56] <OB1FoShoB> sun01tech:      included in the repositories
[23:56] <philsf> rusod: nice to hear. more ppl looking, easier to find a solution
[23:56] <koshari> ShinjinAkage you will need to get the default ones to work first, then after the compiz engine is configured you can then get the advanced desktop manager and use the additional things like cube, and scale ect.
[23:57] <RainCT> ShinjinAkage: ah. no. Ubuntu comes with all plugins (from the repos) by default, most of them are just disabled. but as koshari says, you first need to get compiz itself running
[23:57] <ShinjinAkage> Keshari: How do I get the default ones to work?
[23:57] <koshari>  ShinjinAkage lets get abck to basics, what video chip do you have and have you got 3d working, to test this try running glxgears.
[23:57] <philsf> unop: I guess I could try to do this for every major lib... or I could try to set LC_* vars ;)
[23:57] <philsf> unop: unfortunately it's not an easy thing to google for
[23:57] <ShinjinAkage> Keshari: It's running fine.
[23:58] <philsf> unop: do you at least know which of them *should* do what I want?
[23:58] <PaulM> silly question here: I know I can specify filenames with spaces using quotes or \ to escape the character, but I'm not sure how I copy with wildcards. Specifically, I want to do something along the lines of: cp -R * /media/endpoint
[23:58] <koshari> ShinjinAkage ok so your getting good fps with glxgears?
[23:58] <ShinjinAkage> Keshari: Yeah, it's running fine.
[23:59] <unop> philsf, well that's expected gtk.immodules affects just gnome/gtk apps -- what i would recommend you do is install the portuguese locales and set the LANG and LC_* variables in your ~/.profile -- the variables you need to change are defined here - http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xbd/envvar.html
[23:59] <ShinjinAkage> Keshari: No pauses or anything like that.
[23:59] <koshari> so go to system > pref > appearance and click on the effects tab
[23:59] <sun01tech> gnomefreak: i did that but it says 0 upgrade and 0 for the rest
[23:59] <ShinjinAkage> Koshari: It's already open.
[23:59] <gnomefreak> sun01tech: apt-cache policy firefox-3.0  what version does that give you (only the version)