[18:48] <scarykitties> Anywho, what do I do once this USB drive is made?
[18:49] <dackyshawn> but u should know unless u have a business line it could go really bad level09
[18:49] <AcidRain2012> Dr_willis: lol. yeah i know. but then again. i just havent ever used anything like that. ive always done it manually
[18:49] <adrian> siema
[18:49] <scarykitties> Plug it into my computer and try to find BIOS settings for booting from USB?
[18:49] <level09> dackyshawn: why would it be bad ?
[18:49] <level09> dackyshawn: you mean expensive ?
[18:49] <dackyshawn> level09: what country do you live in?
[18:49] <wylde> scarykitties: yes
[18:49] <level09> dackyshawn: I'm in Dubai
[18:49] <level09> in UAE
[18:49] <scarykitties> I presume that boot from USB option will show up in my BIOS after it detects a bootable USB drive?
[18:49] <AcidRain2012> 11.10 uses gnome and unity? :/
[18:49] <dackyshawn> level09: is that where u will be streaming from?
[18:49] <Dr_willis> AcidRain2012,  you can take the iso file. rename it to .img and use this tool to 'dd' it to flash in windows also. -- https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer
[18:49] <scarykitties> Because AFAIRC, that is not a default option.
[18:49] <level09> dackyshawn: nope, I'll stream from ec2
[18:50] <level09> videos are on s3
[18:50] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  some pcs  need you to hit a key to make the menu appear. or check your bios settings
[18:50] <dackyshawn> you may want to check their EULA for that streaming could be against it
[18:50] <wylde> scarykitties: very well might, how old is the computer? I have an amd 1.3Ghz here that will boot from usb
[18:50] <dackyshawn> but vlc if it isnt can work...
[18:50] <scarykitties> Yeah, I know how to work with computers, at least the basics
[18:50] <level09> dackyshawn:  I dont think so, they even have an option in s3 to stream any file
[18:50] <BobMarley>  i think that i know already what was my problem, i was loged in the terminal as a root, that i why i was unable to open nautilus in the terminal current direct
[18:50] <scarykitties> I've built computers for years, but I've not worked with Linux and the way it does things
[18:50] <MarKsaitis> when u ppl say stable distro gets bug updates... does it also mean stuff like lubuntu-desktop get bug updates too? I have a bug here which is I believe 2 years old in 11.04 to do with lubuntu-desktop, and is STILL HERE.  Where are these bug fixes?
[18:50] <scarykitties> So I'm not familiar with any of this stuff.
[18:50] <level09> dackyshawn: thanks for that, I'll check VLC server
[18:50] <AcidRain2012> Dr_willis: nice
[18:50] <Dr_willis> No idea whyt these pc makers cant agree on a standard key to select a boot drive menu.
[18:50] <zetsuboudev> Some PCs, in the BIOS the USB option will be listed as a HDD. In which case, you need to update the HDD boot order.
[18:51] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, thats not necessary
[18:51] <Dr_willis> ive had to put little stickers on all these differnt pc's keyboards so i can rember which key to boot from usb.
[18:51] <scarykitties> USB should be ready. I'll be back.
[18:51] <Taek> Good Morning #Ubuntu
[18:51] <AcidRain2012> Dr_willis: so according to this. i can install ubuntu on an sd card. and keep it in my phone and just use a safe android writting partition until i need ubuntu, then while im at a friends house, and he says to me 'man i hate windows, wish i had ubuntu!' i can be like 'bam!!!! got it right here on this sd card'
[18:51] <Krazypoloc> Hey guys
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> Taek  other timezone
[18:51] <MarKsaitis> it is. Everybody said to me all the day long, 11.04 is stable, gets bug fixes etc.... but this one, very obvious few years old bug, still here. Where are these updates?
[18:52] <dackyshawn> level09: also for best performance you should use a VSI...  Video Script installer
[18:52] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, the language is not
[18:52] <dackyshawn> like PHPMotion
[18:52] <Taek> Still  morning in  california for another few minutes.
[18:52] <Krazypoloc> Having issues with a dual NIC virtual server setting the IP for the second NIC
[18:52] <dosfronteras> how do I remove a package? I need o remove tixati, i think thats my problem
[18:52] <dackyshawn> level09: here's an example:  http://www.cirtexhosting.com/video-script-installer.shtml
[18:52] <Krazypoloc> http://pastebin.com/Jy2qQsqS
[18:52] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, whats the difference, if nobody cares ever anyway
[18:52] <dackyshawn> this is just a company that ofers that, but should be similar with amazon's cloud
[18:52] <AcidRain2012> dosfronteras: sudo aptitude remove tixati
[18:52] <Dr_willis> AcidRain2012,  you could.. if his pc can boot from sd.. but a sd is slow also.. my netbook has xbmcbuntu on its sd for my video watching. :)
[18:52] <Krazypoloc> That should work for eth1 correct?
[18:52] <dackyshawn> assuming u like paying for bandwidth ;-)
[18:52] <AcidRain2012> but idk if thats your prolem
[18:52] <MarKsaitis> everybody says that everything works and is stable, but nobody cares :)
[18:53] <AcidRain2012> Dr_willis: good point
[18:53] <level09> dackyshawn: nice , reading ..
[18:53] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, this is the wrong channel for rants. follow up on the bug
[18:53] <dosfronteras> k i says"building dependency tree" but nada else
[18:54] <MarKsaitis> Im saying to all the ones which say "stable distro gets bug updates", no it doesnt, not even the obvious ones in everyday life scenarios
[18:54] <AcidRain2012> Dr_willis: i know its a little off topic, but you seem to be the man for this. and i know that android is a linux based phone. but will we ever see a phone that is "more" like ubuntu? such as interface, and gui functionality?
[18:54] <MarKsaitis> fullstop
[18:54] <Krazypoloc> If I set the IP through "ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>" it sets the IP and it works fine....but the interface config hangs the system on reboot
[18:54] <dackyshawn> level09: http://www.phpmotion.com/  <-- since you have your own hosting server with bandwidth that may be more helpful
[18:54] <bazhang> AcidRain2012, #ubuntu-phone
[18:54] <zykotick9> Krazypoloc: typo alert.  "auto eht1"
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> MarKsaitis  please type /join #insultUbuntu
[18:55] <Taek> :D
[18:55] <Rapid2214> Krazypoloc: Setting it using ifconfig will not save the IP address to the config
[18:55] <Krazypoloc> Yes I know
[18:55] <level09> dackyshawn: thanks, but I really want to stay away from php these days :D
[18:55] <Dr_willis> AcidRain2012,  theres a ubuntu phone in the works.
[18:55] <Krazypoloc> I'm stating that my ifconfig works...the config file does not
[18:55] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, thats not helping
[18:55] <level09> would prefer a python based solution
[18:55] <MarKsaitis> whatever, it's obvious what I said,  DE factO
[18:55] <dackyshawn> level09: lots of options that was just one...  but there are thousands
[18:56] <Rapid2214> Krazypoloc: Pastebin your interfaces file
[18:56] <Krazypoloc> http://pastebin.com/Jy2qQsqS
[18:56] <angs> what is the command to see the currently running proccesses?
[18:56] <Krazypoloc> top
[18:56] <dackyshawn> level09: u could also check out http://clip-bucket.com/
[18:56] <level09> dackyshawn: yeah, that's the problem, I think I'll just choose one and try it out. . VLC seems like a good start
[18:56] <Rapid2214> angs: ps aux can also be used
[18:56] <llutz> Krazypoloc: correct line 8, "auto eth1"
[18:56] <zykotick9> Krazypoloc: it's your interfaces file with the typo
[18:56] <jako> alguien que me ayude
[18:57] <dackyshawn> VLC is ok, but compression isnt the best i've found
[18:57] <level09> dackyshawn: the thing is , I'm more concerned about the streaming server itself, I will build the script myself later
[18:57] <Krazypoloc> What should it read?
[18:57] <llutz> Krazypoloc: correct line 8, "auto eth1"
[18:57] <Rapid2214> eth1 :)
[18:57] <Krazypoloc> SHould be "auto eth0:1"?
[18:58] <level09> I am starting to believe that you can stream anything using any server
[18:58] <wylde> eht1 --> eth1
[18:58] <llutz> Krazypoloc: can't you read? change it into "auto eth1"
[18:58] <wylde> slysdexia ftw! >.<
[18:58] <scarykitties> When starting an install, Ubuntu often goes to a screen that looks like white nose.
[18:58] <scarykitties> What would cuase that?
[18:59] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset
[18:59] <scarykitties> Colored white, red, green, and blue dots interspersed in a noise pattern.
[18:59] <Rapid2214> scarykitties: Is it for a long time?
[18:59] <scarykitties> It's been for about a minute so far.
[18:59] <scarykitties> It happened once before
[18:59] <scarykitties> This is me installing from the USB stick this time
[18:59] <scarykitties> Or attempting. IT hasn't gotten to the actual install screen yet
[18:59] <Dr_willis> try the nomodeset option above scarykitties . if it fails to boot.
[19:00] <scarykitties> What?
[19:00] <wylde> scarykitties: be patient, it's faster than optical drive install but not as fast as if it was running from HD
[19:00] <scarykitties> It booted.
[19:00] <scarykitties> But after I selected "install" I get a screen with noise
[19:00] <Taek> ! nomodeset | scarykitties
[19:00] <Dr_willis> some video cards can be confused and need the nomodeset option
[19:00] <Dr_willis> ati - often does. some nvidia does also.
[19:00] <scarykitties> Ugh
[19:01] <scarykitties> This is why I don't like Linux.
[19:01] <dackyshawn> lol
[19:01] <Dr_willis> not needed the fix in 12.04
[19:01] <scarykitties> This is taking far longer than it should
[19:01]  * Dr_willis is reminded of taking 3 days to reinstall windows last month....
[19:01] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: could be a between the chair and keyboard interfacing problem
[19:01] <scarykitties> Okay, I'll give it another shot.
[19:01] <Taek> I  have good reasons to not like linux, but it's good or rooting android devices.
[19:01] <scarykitties> I get it, dacky.
[19:01] <scarykitties> You're saying I'm a clueless twit.
[19:01] <wylde> scarykitties: almost everything takes longer when you're unfamiliar with it, doesn't matter what it is. Linux, knitting, dancing etc etc. lol
[19:02] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: no i didnt say that
[19:02] <MarKsaitis> is there something better lightweight than lxde? I mean what is the point of using latest stable lxde on 11.04 if it actually does not work?
[19:02] <Taek> !vhost
[19:03] <Taek> hmm I want a custom vhost..
[19:03] <bazhang> Taek, cloak on #freenode
[19:03] <Taek> Thanks
[19:03] <Krazypoloc> @llutz thats what its currently set to
[19:03] <Krazypoloc> What am I missing here?
[19:03] <llutz> Krazypoloc: its not, read carefulle
[19:03] <scarykitties> nomodeset seems to have prevented a noise screen at least this time.
[19:03] <llutz> fully
[19:03] <Dr_willis> !info jwm Lighter then lxde.. less features also. :)
[19:03] <scarykitties> Buuut that noise screen didn't happen every time, anyway
[19:03] <Dr_willis> oops.. heh
[19:03] <llutz> Krazypoloc: "auto eht1" != "auto eth1"
[19:03] <scarykitties> Only twice out of the 7-8 times I tried
[19:04] <Kaizen> can anyone recommend a really lightweight socks proxy?
[19:04] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  thats even weirder.
[19:04] <devicenull> I'm trying to setup a net install system.  How do I disable ipv6 in the installer? (I have no ipv6 support, there's no reason to even attempt autoconfig of it)
[19:04] <Krazypoloc> DOH!!
[19:04] <Krazypoloc> Thanks guys
[19:04] <Krazypoloc> I'm retarded....
[19:06] <scarykitties> Damn it.
[19:06] <scarykitties> Got another I/O error
[19:07] <scarykitties> So it's the HDD, then.
[19:07] <scarykitties> Odd that it randomly died out of nowhere when it was working perfectly hours ago.
[19:07] <scarykitties> It worked fine in Wind 7
[19:07] <scarykitties> *Win 7
[19:07] <scarykitties> When I started trying to install other OSs, suddenly it doesn't work.
[19:07] <Zal> scarykitties, does it work reinstall win7?
[19:07] <scarykitties> I'm not going to waste time trying.
[19:07] <Zal> to* reinstall that is
[19:08] <bekks> You dont have to reinstall all the time just because somethings broken.
[19:08] <Zal> bekks, um, that isn't really the point
[19:08] <dysoco> I need help: I installed "ruby-rvm" but failed, now I can't install any package via apt-get because it keeps throwing me an error about ruby-rvm... any ideas ?
[19:08] <bekks> And a broken hdd cant be foxed by reinstalling the OS.
[19:08] <bekks> Zal: Thats the point.
[19:08] <scarykitties> I know ,bekks.
[19:09] <Zal> bekks, the point is to determine IF the hdd is broken. Win7 worked fine previously; if it does so again, it's not the hdd
[19:09] <scarykitties> I'm not trying to fix an HDD by reinstalling an OS
[19:09] <bekks> scarykitties: Didnt say you do.
[19:09] <scarykitties> I'm trying to reinstall an OS, but am learning the HDD got screwed somewhere along hte lines.
[19:09] <scarykitties> Apparently
[19:09] <bekks> Zal: Thats not true at all.
[19:09] <scarykitties> I'm installing using IDE on the SATA again, by the way
[19:09] <scarykitties> There was no ADPI or whatever setting
[19:09] <scarykitties> It was ADCP or something like that
[19:09] <bekks> Zal: Unless it uses _exactly_ the same sectors Ubuntu does, you cant verify it.
[19:09] <scarykitties> I misread.
[19:09] <bekks> scarykitties: ACPI
[19:10] <scarykitties> Right
[19:10] <scarykitties> ACPI
[19:10] <scarykitties> Don't know what that means, but a'ight
[19:10] <scarykitties> It's not an option, anyway.
[19:10] <bekks> Why not?
[19:10] <scarykitties> Because it doesn't show up.
[19:10] <scarykitties> In the BIOS
[19:10] <scarykitties> As an option
[19:10] <bekks> Enter is not a punctuation sign, please :)
[19:11] <Zal> bekks, modern linux filesystems are smart enough to avoid one or two bad sectors. That's an entirely different thing than a broken hdd
[19:11] <Andy2113> guys, anybody that's familiar with deluge torrent client, I need help. How do I remove the queue from my seeds? I want to keep seeding, not be queued :/
[19:12] <scarykitties> So is there some other BIOS setting that could be preventing Ubuntu from installing on the defaults, or is it definitely an HDD issue?
[19:12] <bekks> Zal: Instead of using useless reinstalls, you just can use "smartctl" to determine wether the disc is broken.
[19:12] <Zal> bekks, sure, if you can boot
[19:12] <bekks> scarykitties: Use smartctl from a livecd to check.
[19:12] <scarykitties> How do I do that?
[19:12] <bekks> By booting a live cd.
[19:13] <wylde> scarykitties:  or usb
[19:13] <scarykitties> Can I boot from the live USB?
[19:13] <scarykitties> Alright
[19:13] <scarykitties> Okay, doing that
[19:14] <Andy2113> Anybody know how to remove queued seeds from a torrent with deluge?
[19:14] <scarykitties> Okay, it's loaded to Live mode
[19:14] <scarykitties> Now what?
[19:14] <bekks> scarykitties: Now use smartctl -a /dev/yourharddisc
[19:14] <zykotick9> dysoco: can you give any error output?  "sudo apt-get -f install" is the gerenal, attempt to fix apt automajically.
[19:14] <scarykitties> "use" as in...?
[19:14] <scarykitties> Type it somewhere? Where?
[19:15] <bekks> scarykitties: In a terminal.
[19:15] <scarykitties> And how do I pull up terminal?
[19:15] <zykotick9> Andy2113: check if there is a max upload option somewhere
[19:15] <bekks> By starting it.
[19:15] <scarykitties> Is it an obvious option somewhere?
[19:15] <bekks> scarykitties: Yes.
[19:15] <bazhang> control alt T scarykitties
[19:15] <wylde> scarykitties: ctrl+alt+t
[19:15] <scarykitties> Op, can't
[19:15] <bekks> scarykitties: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[19:16] <scarykitties> Ubuntu's in its lovely crash loop again.
[19:16] <scarykitties> Can't do anything.
[19:16] <Zal> scarykitties, maybe your problem is with bad RAM, rather than a failing hdd
[19:16] <scarykitties> What is the use of an OS that you can't do anything with without a working Internet connection so you can look up documentation on how to do even the most basic things?
[19:16] <zatan> Hi how can I create grep alias which one exclides folder ? alias cgrep="grep -ir --exclude-dir='media/' ."    I have got this one but i wan something "cgrep -ir "blabla" .
[19:16] <wylde> scarykitties: that IS a possibility, a failing HD would have nothing to do with running a live session.
[19:17] <scarykitties> Possible, Zal, though I ran about half of a memory test without anyerrors
[19:17] <Zal> zatan, write a bash function
[19:17] <bekks> zatan: Then omit the .
[19:17] <bekks> zatan: Unnecessary.
[19:17] <Escherial> hey, does anyone happen to know why, in ubuntu 11.10, adding programs to the launcher just displays an invisible space rather than the program's icon?
[19:18] <gadien> Hello, I have a usb drive that I can't safely remove and I closed the programs I thought were using it. what can I do?
[19:18] <Zal> bekks, you misread. He wants to change he exlcude dir, not the search dir.
[19:18] <Escherial> also, the quick launcher (invoked from pressing the "windows" key) is quite slow...is there any way to improve it?
[19:18] <Louis11> I've developed an application that allows a user to interact with the system tray icon. It works in KDE, Gnome, and XFCE but fails in Unity. Does Unity prevent "mouse over events" ?
[19:19] <scarykitties> I'll run a memory test from the Ubuntu DVE
[19:19] <scarykitties> *DVD
[19:19] <scarykitties> Though I don't see why my RAM would suddenly die over the past 8 hours when I began trying to install a new OS
[19:19] <scarykitties> It worked perfectly in Win 7 just 8 hours ago
[19:19] <Taek> use memtestx86 :D
[19:19] <scarykitties> Don't know how to do that
[19:19] <BobMarley> from where i get the mp tables?
[19:19] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  with that logic nothing should ever die.. :)
[19:20] <scarykitties> The logic is based on things showing signs of failure before failing, Dr.
[19:20] <Zal> scarykitties, probably you're just lucky that way :)
[19:20] <scarykitties> The assumption that things wear down before they fail entirely.
[19:20] <Dr_willis> electronics dont normally fail that way.
[19:20] <scarykitties> Yeah, I've luckied myself $2000 dollars poorer over the past week thanks to hardware issues.
[19:20] <Dr_willis> car brakes. yes.. :)
[19:20] <scarykitties> And my patience is about [] this thin.
[19:21] <wylde> well that's better than || <-- this thin ;)
[19:21] <scarykitties> I'm running a memory test
[19:21] <dysoco|laptop> I'm having a problem running "apt-get" I can't install Anything because of some weird error with Ruby-RVM... any ideas ? It's an error with "dpkg-statoverride"
[19:21] <scarykitties> If that memory teast whoever-it-was suggested requires running from the live LC
[19:21] <scarykitties> Then I reiterate that the problem is that the Live CD doesn't work
[19:21] <scarykitties> Potentially due to memory issues
[19:21] <scarykitties> Hence the need to run the test.
[19:21] <Dr_willis> put the hd in a differnt pc. and install to it.. then move it back. :)
[19:22] <Dr_willis> done that in a few cases in the past.
[19:22] <scarykitties> I don't have a idfferent PC to put it in
[19:22] <Dr_willis> you could even image the iso to a spare hd. plug them both in. install from one to the other.. then remove the iso image hd..
[19:22] <Dr_willis> but thats getting a bit 'weird'
[19:22] <Dr_willis> it was REAL fast when i did it that way.
[19:23] <Zal> if you really want to be sure it's broken, and not just guess, smash it with a hammer.
[19:24] <MarKsaitis> how do I remove lubuntu-desktop?!?!?!
[19:24] <MarKsaitis> help
[19:24] <scarykitties> Install Windows instead.
[19:24] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, and leave what
[19:24] <dysoco> MarKsaitis, apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop ?
[19:24] <MarKsaitis> no, seriously, apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop
[19:24] <bazhang> Zal, thats not helping
[19:24] <scarykitties> Oh, what's lubuntu? I dunno. Sorry.
[19:24] <MarKsaitis> didnt work
[19:25] <scarykitties> Thought it was a type of ubuntu
[19:25] <scarykitties> *typo
[19:25] <bekks> MarKsaitis: "didnt work" means what?
[19:25] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  its a meta package - so removeing it will NOT remove everything it pulled in when it was installed.
[19:25] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, what else do you have installed
[19:25] <MarKsaitis> I said yes at a prompt, restarted server etc.... but if I do vncserver and connect over vnc, I still get the interface
[19:25] <dysoco> I tried to install "ruby-rvm" wich failed, now I can't install any packages via apt-get, because I get errors with "dpkg-statoverride"... any ideas ? I can paste the error, but it's in Spanish
[19:25] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis, omg, how rude..... so how do I get rid of it all together then?
[19:26] <Dr_willis> removeing the lubuntu-desktop package will not remove the lxde enviroment.
[19:26] <Taek> I should setup vpn though my sever
[19:26] <MarKsaitis> omg, this is rude, how do i remove all tha tcrap then?
[19:26] <Dr_willis> you remove the packages with the package manager.. meta packages make things easy to install.. not remove.
[19:26] <Zal> bazhang, oh I dunno, scarykitties seems kinda frazzled. A little humor can sometimes calm a guy down a bit.
[19:26] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, do you have another de installed
[19:26] <bazhang> Zal, #ubuntu-offtopic for jokes
[19:26] <MarKsaitis> I do not have any DE installed, dont need any
[19:27] <Dr_willis> meta-packages are just a work around for having an easier command to install a 'desktop' or other 'group of packages'
[19:27] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, no one is being rude to you
[19:27] <MarKsaitis> why metapackages don't end with package-meta or smth... if I ever knew
[19:27] <scarykitties> Yeah, I'm more than a little PO'd, but I'm trying not to take it out on you guys. I do appreciate the help, but I'm frustrated.
[19:28] <MarKsaitis> I have downloaded 1 GB of crap and I now don't know how to get rid of it
[19:28] <MarKsaitis> it's like "no way back", just sweet
[19:28] <Zal> bazhang, ok, that makes little sense to me, but I'm guessing you're an op, enforcing a "no jokes" rule, so I will be dead serious from now on. My apologies.
[19:28] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove whatever   or use aptitude
[19:29] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, if you install lubuntu-desktop, it will pull many packages. but if you uninstall it, the packges it pulled will remain
[19:29] <Dr_willis> !puregnome
[19:29] <Dr_willis> i rarely uninstall stuff. :)
[19:29] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, just follow the puregnome steps, but dont install ubuntu-desktop
[19:29] <MarKsaitis> I dont want any gnomes inside my pc
[19:29] <MarKsaitis> =)))
[19:30] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, thus why I said DONT install ubuntu-desktop
[19:30] <MarKsaitis> anyways, what a shame and waste of space =)
[19:30] <Dr_willis> random comments are random.
[19:30] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, just pick your favorite desktop or window manager and start removing packages, usually removing lxde will do
[19:30] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, read the link
[19:30] <Dr_willis> You installed them. not us. :)
[19:30] <MarKsaitis> ok, how do I remove lxde?
[19:30] <Dr_willis> !info lxde
[19:31] <dysoco|laptop> I'm having a problem running "apt-get" I can't install Anything because of some weird error with Ruby-RVM... any ideas ? http://pastebin.com/gjpMYuXJ
[19:31] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove whatever
[19:31] <Artemis3> yes start removing lxde-common, that will want to remove others, and so on
[19:31] <zamba> i have a problem with a ubuntu server not booting. i'm dropped into initramfs.. looks like the problem is related to /dev/mapper.. what can i do?
[19:31] <zamba> edit /etc/fstab?
[19:31] <Dr_willis> apt-get supports wildcards :) but be carefull with that
[19:31] <bazhang> the !pure link gives a lot to remove
[19:31] <scarykitties> I'm gonna go with someone's suggestion and try installing Win 7 again. If it works, I'm just going to stick with it, because why not?
[19:31] <gmachine_24> running 11.04 on lenovo laptop - SanDisk USB imagemate flash disk reader is not recognized
[19:31] <MarKsaitis> so lubuntu-desktop is metapackage, lxde is metapackage..... so how many hours do I need to scientifically study these metapackages within metapackages to just remove that beast?
[19:32] <scarykitties> But I'll stay around to let y'all know if the memtest shows up errors in the RAM. None so far.
[19:32] <bekks> zamba: First, provide the error in a pastebin :)
[19:32] <Artemis3> you could also see the list of packages installed by lubuntu-desktop (its in the ubuntu packages web)
[19:32] <snama> hello
[19:32] <bazhang> !purexfce
[19:32] <MarKsaitis> I mean linux for server - ok, but for your laptop - u got to be noob =)
[19:32] <zamba> bekks: only a screenshot.. but i'll transcribe it
[19:32] <Zal> scarykitties, memtest can take many hours to find errors in some cases.
[19:32] <gmachine_24> snama, ask your question or state your problem
[19:32] <scarykitties> Is there a quicker way, Zal?
[19:33] <bazhang> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce   MarKsaitis read the part about removing lubuntu on that link
[19:33] <Zal> scarykitties, none that I know of that are as reliable.
[19:33] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, it might be easier and faster to just reinstall ubuntu minimal (f4 for command line only) then install the packages you want
[19:33] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, yeah im going to xfce
[19:33] <scarykitties> If the memory is shot, shouldn't the errors be more persistant than Ubuntu not installing?
[19:33] <Dr_willis> not like having lubuntu and xubuntu both installed are going to take a lot of space...
[19:33] <scarykitties> Shouldn't there be random crashes left and right?
[19:33] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, you dont need to, just dont install a DE at the end
[19:33] <scarykitties> Or hang-ups of all kinds?
[19:34] <ziyadb> Hello! I just got a new TV, and am using VGA input. The Ubuntu system settings list it as an "unknown" display and has set the resolution to 1024x768 (4:3). How can I make it better recognize the display or override the detection mechanism? The display is 1920x1080.
[19:34] <zamba> bekks: http://pastie.org/3734778
[19:34] <gmachine_24> scarykitties, bad memory can cause all sorts of problems - mostly unpredictable
[19:34] <Dr_willis> ziyadb,  cant set it up to use hdmi?
[19:34] <snama> I have a bit annoying issue, not really big but still annoying.        SO. when I do a fresh boot or a after a reboot and login with LightDM into a XFCE Desktop (ubuntu variation of Ubuntu-Studio if that makes any difference),  my keyboard keys of 'e' and 'p' do not work. only after I log out back to lightdm and log in again do they work. has anybody experienced anything like this?
[19:34] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: no HDMI out on my computer unfortunately.
[19:34] <Artemis3> scarykitties, run memtest and leave it a whole pass (can take an hour or so)
[19:34] <Dr_willis> ziyadb,  sad. with hdmi it should  work automatically
[19:35] <gmachine_24> snama, perhaps you should seek help from the ubuntu-studio people - or is that handled here?
[19:35] <hex`> Where is located "DavLockDB" (apache2 module) on ubuntu? I already searched for almost every word but still I can't find it.
[19:35] <Dr_willis> ziyadb,  what video chipset?
[19:35] <Dr_willis> !find DavLockDB
[19:35] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: of course. There isn't a reason (aside from detection issues) that would prevent me from using 1920x1080 on VGA, yes?
[19:35] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, I get errors with unable to find this and this package
[19:35] <MarKsaitis> a nightmare
[19:35] <MarKsaitis> omg
[19:35] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: how do I check?
[19:35] <Dr_willis> ziyadb,  not sure. i havent used vga in years.
[19:35] <snama> gmachine_24, the thing is that it doesnt seem to be an audio related problem, more like something of a mix of xfce and xorg
[19:35] <MarKsaitis> why stuff cant just be simple
[19:35] <snama> or one of them
[19:35] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: integrated intel 4500HD or something.
[19:36] <Dr_willis> ziyadb,   the monitor/display setting tool might let you select a differnt res.
[19:36] <snama> but i will try at ubuntu-studio channel
[19:36] <Taek> hex` is this supposed to be an apache2 module, if so please take your question to #apache
[19:36] <gmachine_24> snama, #ubuntustudio
[19:36] <snama> thanks
[19:36] <hex`> Taek thank you.
[19:37] <Taek> Also  if it's for SVN which i think it is, might check with #subversion
[19:37] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: the "display settings" tool?
[19:37] <gmachine_24> ok so any help for me? :) running 11.04 on lenovo laptop - SanDisk USB imagemate flash disk reader is not recognized
[19:37] <Dr_willis> ziyadb,  in the menus somewhere. a tool to set your res.
[19:37] <zamba> bekks: any idea?
[19:37] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: yeah, the default one. The options are limited.
[19:38] <Artemis3> gmachine_24, have you tried more recent versions just in case? (live cds, etc)
[19:38] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: just 800x600 and 1024x768, both 4:3.
[19:38] <andygraybeal> hey guys, I'm running 10.04 LTS.  I installed the latest LibreOffice from PPA ( http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu lucid main ) it installed LO <IP_ADDRESS> - the problem I ran into is it doesn't want to print copies of a document.  the fix is outlined yesterday here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/925836 .  the problem i have is i don't understand this enough to know how to remedy my situation.  can som
[19:38] <andygraybeal> eone help me?
[19:38] <atpa8a> hmm
[19:38] <atpa8a> network issue... cannot restart
[19:38] <snama> gmachine_24 do you know what file system its using?
[19:38] <atpa8a> http://paste.ubuntu.com/916460/
[19:38] <atpa8a> can anyone comment?
[19:39] <genewitch> what does it mean when the installer hangs at 98% "Starting PC Card Services" on ubuntu server
[19:39] <MarKsaitis> it means ur screwed
[19:39] <genewitch> cool story bro
[19:39] <MarKsaitis> =)
[19:40] <Taek> true
[19:40] <csharp> genewitch: can you check /var/log/syslog for any useful messages?
[19:40] <rrva> hi! How do I set the only sink to be my TV over hdmi when that cable is connected and how do I force it to be 48khz? I have crackling audio now
[19:40] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, thats not helping
[19:41] <MarKsaitis> !xfce
[19:41] <MarKsaitis> I bet thats another METAdevilpackage
[19:42] <antonn_> Hi!
[19:42] <guntbert> MarKsaitis: what are you trying to do?
[19:42] <Duality> how do i start a process in terminal/console and when i do ctrl-c it doesn't really closes but gives me back the console/commandline
[19:42] <antonn_> Can you please tell the name of the actor (the little negro) ? http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/7091/screenshot2012040523130.jpg
[19:43] <bazhang> antonn_, wrong channel
[19:43] <guntbert> Duality: programname &     starts it "in the background"
[19:44] <Duality> guntbert, if i start my python script it'll ask me a few questions and then run, but i want to close it after it's done asking me the questions and us the command line while it runs in the background
[19:44] <Zal> Duality, you can start it inside a screen session
[19:44] <Artemis3> MarcoSousa, what do you want? pure xfce? then the meta is called xfce4, but there are core packages. The whole experience is xubuntu-desktop
[19:44] <Artemis3> i mean MarKsaitis
[19:45] <mcb_1> Duality:  Use CTRL+z
[19:45] <mcb_1> Duality: It will put it in background in the middle of execution
[19:45] <Zal> ctrl-z works too, so long as you don't try to exit the shell
[19:45] <MarKsaitis> yeah Artemis3 I want xfce
[19:45] <zykotick9> Duality: you also might want to checkout "screen"
[19:45] <MarKsaitis> desktop
[19:46] <guntbert> Duality: better use another terminal  window   -- or still better  GNU screen
[19:46] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, check here, it shows what packages will install: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/xfce4
[19:47] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, you can compare with xubuntu-desktop. Difecente is ubuntu vs debian way
[19:47] <Artemis3> diference
[19:47] <frunk> How's it going
[19:47] <guntbert> frunk: welcome to the ubuntu support channel
[19:47] <frunk> I'm having an issue with installation and I can't find any information about it anywhere
[19:48] <frunk> Anyone got some time to help
[19:48] <zykotick9> !details | frunk
[19:48] <MarKsaitis> is it xubuntu-desktop?
[19:48] <MarKsaitis> systems says foff to me when I try to install it =) not found
[19:48] <frunk> It's with any Linux based OS I guess, Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu
[19:49] <frunk> The problem I receive is a split screen like effect
[19:49] <Taek>  sounds like a computer issue not a distro issue
[19:49] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, both will install an XFCE desktop, its the extra packages what changes. Xubuntu will use Network Manager, for instance.
[19:49] <frunk> where upon installation and bootup
[19:49] <spyvsspy> hi, I am getting an error in regards to invalide character version numbers when installing a .deb
[19:49] <frunk> It splits my screen into two portions
[19:49] <fenns> anyone know which package has the Mist icon set?
[19:49] <spyvsspy> whats the quickest way around this?
[19:49] <guntbert> !enter | frunk
[19:49] <frunk> Like a dual monitor effect
[19:49] <MarKsaitis> anyways, dunno what ur all talking about, im on ubuntu 11.04 and I want xfce desktop
[19:49] <MarKsaitis> !xfce
[19:50] <ToMiKS> !edubuntu
[19:50] <frunk> Alrihgt, yeah, it gives me a dual monitor like effect. I can't access the right side of the screen without moving my mouse all the way to the left side of the screen and past it.
[19:50] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, xubuntu-desktop is the package to install
[19:50] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, wither install xubuntu-destop OR xfce4
[19:50] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, /msg ubottu from now on
[19:50] <Taek> frunk do you hav e any video issues with windows?
[19:50] <frunk> No
[19:50] <MarKsaitis> =)))))) what is the difference between xubuntu-desktoip and xfce?
[19:51] <MarKsaitis> I thought they are both xfce4?
[19:51] <frunk> I've got all new hardware, just built this computer 4 months ago
[19:51] <Taek> you may have to install proprietary hardware drivers.
[19:51] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, thats why i showed you that page, it tells which packages install
[19:51] <MarKsaitis> http://pastebin.com/UB6sxYPh for all of you, have a look
[19:51] <MarKsaitis> I find it a waste of time, why cant it just work
[19:51] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/xfce4 vs http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/xubuntu-desktop
[19:52] <Taek> Menu:System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[19:52] <frunk> Taek, so I need to get hardware drivers?
[19:52] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, it works if you install the package xubuntu-desktop, OR download the Xubuntu image and install from scratch
[19:52] <Taek> Not saying you absolutely do, j ust stating it as a p ossiblity
[19:52] <frunk> okay
[19:53] <Taek> Excuse my spacing, spacebar button is stuck haha
[19:53] <frunk> yeah, windows works fine which is why I thought it was weird, I'm running mint off a USB right now
[19:53] <mcb_1> MarKsaitis: Terminal is case sensitive, you typed Xubuntu with X capital, it is in lower case, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:53] <frunk> and it's working fine
[19:53] <frunk> I also ran fedora last night and that installed fine
[19:53] <dooma09> When creating new directory how do to default to have group write access? The current default is with no group write access to directory.
[19:53] <jack> hello
[19:53] <zykotick9> dooma09: look into umask
[19:54] <Taek> Ubuntu has generic vga/xvga drivers. If you use nVidia you will certainly  need hardware drivers
[19:54] <MarKsaitis> mcb_1, as u can se I tried both options
[19:54] <llutz> dooma09: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/group-write-access-for-newly-created-files-directories-without-changing-umask-716601/
[19:54] <sebastien> hola
[19:55] <mcb_1> MarKsaitis: I saw it a little after, but as your output said xubunto-desktop is already installed....
[19:55] <frunk> I'm using a MSI 6970, so, I guess ATI RAdeon
[19:55] <sebastien>  buenas noches
[19:55] <frunk> not nvidia
[19:55] <frunk> weird
[19:55] <guntbert> !es | sebastien
[19:55] <Taek> well both nVidia & ATI  require hardware drivers to fully  utilize them. If it's onboard m ost of the time the generic driver works at least enough to get the drivers
[19:56] <Artemis3> hmm that ubotu message in spanish could use some fixes
[19:56] <Zal> dooma09, others gave you suggestions for changing the default.  Not sure about these days.
[19:57] <frunk> yup, Taek, well done
[19:57] <frunk> seems to be a driver issue
[19:57] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, how can it say such pack is installed if I never installed it and its not there
[19:57] <frunk> since the card isn't normally compatible
[19:57] <MarKsaitis> the damn thing, I even did remove and install again, it did install few megs, but still the stuff isnt there
[19:57] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, why are you running as root
[19:57] <Taek> Zal he's using onboard on a mainboard less then a year old :)
[19:57] <dooma09> Zal: ok. but if user create directory from ftp then i can't use -m. I'll check out umaske and the link from llutz. Thanks.
[19:57] <MarKsaitis> I have asked installer to install something for me, it said it installed. but stuff isnt there. how can I trust that installer
[19:58] <MarKsaitis> why not
[19:58] <Zal> Taek, yeah, i don't know the current state of drivers, but at the time, my ATI card was brand new as well
[19:58] <pluz_> hey
[19:58] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, its installed.
[19:58] <Artemis3> dooma09, it might be your ftp server settings, check config
[19:58] <Taek> Onboard/ vs PCIe/APG   handes differently
[19:58] <Taek> AGP*
[19:58] <zykotick9> ftp must die!
[19:59] <Taek>  FTP is the good stuff man
[19:59] <Zal> Taek, interesting, never noticed the difference.
[19:59] <frunk> Taek, one more thing, trying to install this driver
[19:59] <Taek> OnBoard video doesn't  have a bios chip to relay the details to the system
[19:59] <frunk> seems it's going to open up the terminal, but it's opening up gedit, with a blank box.
[20:00] <frunk> there we go
[20:00] <frunk> got it
[20:00] <Taek> :D
[20:00] <frunk> thank you sir
[20:00] <Taek> Your welcome Frunk
[20:01] <frunk> now, will this driver like, go over the regular driver, and if I want optimal performance on win7, I will need to redownload the regular drivers?
[20:01] <frunk> or it's just alongside it
[20:01] <Taek> Windows Utilizes  drivers differently then linux
[20:02] <frunk> So this linux driver will just be installed alongside any other drivers that the gfx card uses?
[20:02] <guntbert> frunk: please don't press <enter> so often, you are scrolling the channel much more than needed
[20:02] <Taek> If you have a dual-boot system, each OS will require their version of the driver
[20:02] <frunk> Sorry.
[20:02] <MarKsaitis> the good thing about windows - it doesnt freeze software for years and it doesnt give a shit about the version, it just runs whatever software u install on it =)
[20:02] <pangolin> !language | MarKsaitis
[20:02] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, no cursing here
[20:03] <Taek> frunk: not sure I understand the question fully
[20:03] <MarKsaitis> I didnt think windows is a bad word =)
[20:03] <dooma09> zykotick9: after i updated /etc/profile to change umask g=rwx. What command to use instead of reboot to take effect?
[20:03] <snama> haha
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> MarKsaitis  whatever software, even infected, you mean?
[20:03] <frunk> What I'm asking is if I will need to reinstall any drivers after I install this one for Linux. Like, will this linux driver I'm installing remove the current driver
[20:03] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, lets move along
[20:03] <snama> "in these parts of town, you better watch your tounge"
[20:03] <zykotick9> dooma09: sorry i'm not sure how one would apply umask after change?
[20:04] <motherbrain> curious I am use to old HDD MBR / partition table format / structure when are we making the switch to GPT based partition tables
[20:04] <bekks> frunk: Which "linux driver"?
[20:04] <frunk> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.42&lang=English
[20:04] <Taek> frunk: no you wont  need to reinstall drivers. however  updates may  occur, that will display in the software update manager
[20:04] <frunk> OKay.
[20:04] <motherbrain> is this only for newer 64 bit machine (I know it could be made for any bit machine but didn't know what new OS support this GPT
[20:05] <motherbrain> Does linux / ubuntu
[20:05] <motherbrain> windows
[20:05] <motherbrain> mac
[20:05] <bekks> motherbrain: GPT is independent from 32/64 bit.
[20:05] <motherbrain> I know
[20:05] <bekks> motherbrain: You just asked that.
[20:05] <motherbrain> But do all OS support this now. SInce I doubt windows 95 had the file driver to support this ;)
[20:06] <Taek> Not a place to ask about windows OSs
[20:06] <dageriv> I have openssh-server running, how can I remove it from startup and also kill the process? Its not listed in "startup applications"
[20:06] <motherbrain> Basically I am curious when the first windows, mac, and linux machine could use/provided support for GPT not that it is to complicated
[20:06] <guntbert> !ot | motherbrain
[20:07] <Taek> dageriv:  it would  be listed as SSHd
[20:07] <new2net> i just realized totem will play an audio file if you leave your mouse hovering over it in nautilus... :P neat
[20:07] <bekks> motherbrain: Windows, OSX, and Linux already support GPT.
[20:08] <llutz> dageriv: echo "manual" |sudo tee /etc/init/ssh.override
[20:08] <dageriv> Taek: nope
[20:08] <gmachine_24> Artemis3, the SanDisk memory card reader used to work on everything . In fact, the computer can "see" that the reader is plugged in as it ids them as /dev/sg2-/dev/sg5 . And, under >places>computer there are four icons for "Generic STORAGE DEVICE" ... however, putting a memory card in the reader doesn't change anything. i.e. the computer does not read the data.
[20:09] <Steevca> Ubuntu is reporting my graphic as unknown instead of galion.How do i get it to work?
[20:09] <bekks> Do you mean "Gallium" ?
[20:09] <gmachine_24> But this isn't even really my real question. It has to do with a computer that will no longer boot and I get to the initramfs > point and am lost but I need to post all that info so I will be back shorly.
[20:10] <bekks> If so, that will be - not that easy.
[20:10] <toastedpenguin> Anyone point me to a iptables how to for setting up routing between 1 "WAN" interface and 2 LAN interfaces, all are private IPs, I just need to be able to forward packets between the networks
[20:10] <Steevca> bekks, yes. :D
[20:10] <Steevca> Sorry. :D
[20:11] <bekks> Steevca: Good luck then :)
[20:11] <bazhang> toastedpenguin, try #netfilter
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> !iptables| toastedpenguin
[20:19] <kevin__> which is the lightest distro Linux Mint Debian XFCE or Linux Mint Julia 10 ?
[20:19] <markgifford> join #ubuntu+1
[20:19] <bazhang> kevin__, ask in mintsupport
[20:19] <kevin__> thanks
[20:22] <joker404> des français?
[20:23] <bazhang> joker404, #ubuntu-fr
[20:23] <joker404> ah pas bête
[20:25] <joker404> vous connaissez des bons films?
[20:26] <HorizonXP> is there any info on Intel Atom CedarView graphics support in Ubuntu?
[20:26] <HorizonXP> I'd like to find out about driver support prior to purchase.
[20:26] <HorizonXP> I know that PowerVR stuff isn't great, but I don't want to wait until 2013 for Intel to ditch them.
[20:26] <HorizonXP> What about the AMD Fusion stuff?
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> HorizonXP  that's more for #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:29] <HorizonXP> MonkeyDust: ok, thanks, appreciate the direction :)
[20:29] <ludwin01> does anybody make itunes work on lucid linx
[20:30] <aeon-ltd> ludwin01: look into 'wine'
[20:30] <svip> Anyone know where to look for crashes during high io load?
[20:31] <svip> I tried changing the schedulers, but that didn't do much.
[20:31] <ludwin01> yeah already did but there is any another way to manage the ipod touch?
[20:31] <auronandace> !itunes | ludwin01
[20:31] <auronandace> !ipod | ludwin01
[20:32] <ludwin01> @ubottu thanks man really appreciate your help
[20:32] <guntbert> svip: did you look into the logs?
[20:33] <svip> guntbert: I am going to reinstall.  Installing from Windows might have been a mistake.
[20:34] <guntbert> svip: I don't know about wubi, but ....
[20:35] <hatch> After an update on my Wubi installed Ubuntu 10.04 I'm getting 'error: coudln't read file \n press any key to continue...'
[20:35] <hatch> keypresses don't do anything
[20:35] <hatch> is there a way to boot to a different terminal with Wubi or is this thing bricked?
[20:36] <Escherial> does anyone happen to know why adding an app i've dragged to the launcher in ubuntu 11.10 unity doesn't show an icon?
[20:36] <Escherial> there's just a big blank space there, even though the icon shows up in the quick launcher (in fact, that's where i dragged it from)
[20:37] <angs> what is the directory that all user installed programs stored, like program files in windows?
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> angs  /usr/bin/ -- programs are installed there automatically if they come from the repos
[20:39] <vlt> angs: /usr/local/ for example
[20:39] <angs> thanks
[20:41] <lacrymology> who was the idiot that added that + to python version number?
[20:41] <vlt> angs: Ah, I didn’t understand your question right: /usr/local/ is for programs the user installs himself (without the package manger). Files from packages go whereever they belong: /etc/ /usr/ /var/ …
[20:41] <gmachine_24> Can I upload a photo file or screen shot to the pastebin instead of typing out all the text on the screen?
[20:41] <lacrymology> damned distro retards who don't know better than sticking their noses in other people's code
[20:41] <Teligard> Who's the pro on fstab and path mapping of NAS's?
[20:42] <gmachine_24> !pastebin
[20:43] <guntbert> lacrymology: 1) ranting won't help   2) why here?
[20:44] <Teligard> http://pastebin.com/ide45pcb contains my current fstab, and has commented the areas that don't work as well as the ones that do
[20:44] <Teligard> The error I receive is that it can't find the path specified, but I can browse directly to it
[20:44] <Teligard> just can't map it in the fstab
[20:45] <lacrymology> guntbert: the internet seems to believe it was "the ubuntu people" who changed the python version number to 2.7.2+, python versions DON'T have +es in them, and that breaks just about everything
[20:46] <lacrymology> guntbert: everything = installing of other python packages
[20:46] <guntbert> lacrymology: we are not "the ubuntu people" - this channel is only for peer support
[20:47] <lacrymology> guntbert: well, damnit anyways ;)
[20:50] <gmachine_24> http://paste.ubuntu.com/916576/ for my comp that won't boot but goes to (initramfs). Thank you in advance.
[20:50] <dackyshawn> ok i've been tasked with trying to find a secure file transfer method for a tax person... i found out everyone was emailing files to her unecrypted with social and earnings in the wide open
[20:50] <dackyshawn> anyone know of a way that i could embed some type of FTP thing to her website that will allow for easy secure file transfers
[20:50] <gmachine_24> dackyshawn I don't think polling is allowed
[20:50] <ZiggyTheHamster> I have what is hopefully a simple question. I need to see how much space that a package will use once installed without actually installing the package. apt-get install -s won't print the file sizes out and I don't want to actually go through with the installation so I'm reluctant to try it without -s
[20:51] <dackyshawn> polling?
[20:51] <dackyshawn> ZiggyTheHamster: it will tell you when you run the apt-get command
[20:51] <gmachine_24> dackyshawn, as in asking for the best software or technique for doing something
[20:51] <dackyshawn> and you just select "no" to install
[20:51] <dackyshawn> (that is if you dont want to install it)
[20:52] <ZiggyTheHamster> dackyshawn: FTP is inherently insecure; SFTP would work but nothing supports it. I would recommend setting up a simple secure upload script (PHP/Perl/whatever) hosted on a HTTPS server
[20:52] <ZiggyTheHamster> dackyshawn: Thanks. Will try now.
[20:52] <dackyshawn> ZiggyTheHamster: it'll say something like "the package <package name> will require <some bytes here> to install:
[20:52] <dackyshawn> or something like that
[20:52] <dackyshawn> dont know the exact wording
[20:52] <ZiggyTheHamster> yeah it did that
[20:53] <optimous> I want to set up an PPPoE Server in Ubuntu.. Consider me a N00B..
[20:53] <dackyshawn> hmmm
[20:54] <dackyshawn> never seen anyone set up there own PPPoE server before
[20:54] <gmachine_24> http://paste.ubuntu.com/916576/ anyone who can help with a boot problem. thanks.
[20:54] <optimous> well i just want to try that once.. ;)
[20:54] <dackyshawn> usually this is something done for dsl modems and what not
[20:54] <syddraf> Is there a reason that chmod would fail to set the proper permissions, but throw no error? I'm trying to "chmod +x script", and it isn't making it executable.
[20:54] <dackyshawn> optimous: what are you trying to do exactly?
[20:54] <dackyshawn> what do you need PPPoE for?
[20:55] <optimous> I want to share my Internet(With speed restrictins per user) in LAN..
[20:55] <dackyshawn> optimous: cuz i dont think u have the term correct
[20:55] <dackyshawn> oh then no you are not using the correct term
[20:55] <dackyshawn> u essentially want to turn your linux box into a router am I correct?
[20:56] <dackyshawn> optimous: ^^
[20:56] <optimous> well, i thought it would be done by the box..
[20:56] <guntbert> syddraf: what does ls -l   <thatfile>  say?
[20:56] <dackyshawn> optimous: ummm yes... but the term is not PPPoE that is something completely different
[20:56] <optimous> since i too want to implement the authentication for users to get access..
[20:57] <dackyshawn> optimous: then you want your linux box to be a router with Proxy authentication
[20:57] <optimous> as I've seen some private broadband providers giving broadband access, with a LAN cable.. rather the ADSL...
[20:57] <dackyshawn> huh?
[20:58] <dackyshawn> optimous: you already have internet correct?
[20:58] <optimous> yes..
[20:58] <dackyshawn> PPPoE is a protocol its not what you want to use for your LAN
[20:58] <dackyshawn> it's used for ISPs to talk with their equipment primarily
[20:58] <dackyshawn> tho cable providers that i know of dont usually use PPPoE (dsl providers do tho)
[20:59] <dackyshawn> optimous: how many network cards do you have in your linux box?
[20:59] <optimous> I've analysed that with Wireshark, and it's PPPoE..
[20:59] <dackyshawn> how does wireshark tell you it's PPPoE
[20:59] <dackyshawn> ?
[20:59] <optimous> i've analysed the packets sent when connecting to the Broadband service...
[21:00] <dackyshawn> ok.... well do you have a router already?
[21:00] <optimous> yes..
[21:00] <dackyshawn> ok is it provided by your ISP
[21:00] <dackyshawn> or is it your own?
[21:00] <optimous> ISP Just provides a LAN Connection, nothing else..
[21:00] <dackyshawn> ISP doesnt provide LAN
[21:00] <dackyshawn> they provide WAN
[21:01] <dackyshawn> it goes ISP --> MODEM --> router
[21:01] <optimous> I mean, the Broadband provider...
[21:01] <dackyshawn> yes that is your ISP
[21:01] <dackyshawn> ISP = Internet Service Provider
[21:01] <guntbert> !enter | dackyshawn
[21:01] <dackyshawn> who ever provides your internet is your ISP
[21:02] <dackyshawn> enter wasnt beign used as punctuation... they were new thoughts hence why they were on new lines... sorry i am a fast typer
[21:02] <optimous> See, to get the Broadband servicem the Provider set up a LAN cable till my Box, and then gave me username & password..
[21:02] <dackyshawn> optimous: PPPoE is a method that your ISP uses to allow clients to dial up to them, this is not something you run on a WAN
[21:02] <syddraf> guntbert: -rw------- 1 syddraf syddraf 293 2012-04-05 15:54 script.sh
[21:03] <zykotick9> syddraf: you sh script doesn't seem to have execute... just sayin'
[21:04] <syddraf> zykotick9: Please read my original post. I am trying to run "chmod +x script.sh", but it is not giving exec permissions.
[21:04] <guntbert> syddraf: and now the output of     ls -ld  .     please   (mind the dot!)
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> syddraf: is it stored on an ntfs or fat partition?
[21:05] <syddraf> ActionParsnip: NTFS
[21:05] <Phraktal> anyone knows how to get mysqlnd in php5 on ubuntu ?
[21:05] <syddraf> guntbert : drwx------ 1 syddraf syddraf 0 2012-04-05 16:02 .
[21:05] <zykotick9> syddraf: fat/ntfs doesn't support POSIX permissions
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> syddraf: thats why then
[21:05] <syddraf> So I can't execute scripts from an ntfs partition?
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: crappy ntfs dude
[21:05] <zykotick9> syddraf: "sh script.sh"
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: thanks
[21:06] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: thx for spotting
[21:06] <syddraf> Thanks everyone. I was unaware of needing that. I rarely
[21:06] <syddraf> execute anything from this drive.
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: shoots his finger gun
[21:07] <syddraf> I am kind of surprised that chmod doesn't say *something* though.
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> syddraf: zykotick9's command will work, you cannot mark things as executable in NTFS, it cannot hold advanced Linux permissions. You'd need to mount it so ALL the files are executable
[21:07] <syddraf> ActionParsnip: Thank you for the information. I appreciate it.
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> syddraf: it does succeed, it just doesn't stick but it could say something
[21:07] <erratic> where are the php 5.4 packaages for ubuntu
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> !info php5
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[21:08] <erratic> yeah seems like they're missing how come
[21:08] <tim> Hi
[21:08] <auronandace> erratic: because 5.4 was released after 11.10
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> erratic: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/03/how-to-upgrade-install-php-540-under.html
[21:09] <iceroot> erratic: ubuntu will never release a major update in a release
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> erratic: how long did that take me?
[21:09] <Dr_willis> you can mount ntfs/vfat where everything is executable.. but thats eve more annoying.
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> erratic: 120 seconds, must be a record
[21:09] <erratic> ./ignore
[21:09] <iceroot> erratic: so you have to use a ppa, build it from source, use backports or something like that
[21:09] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: you are very slow :)
[21:09] <erratic> ty!
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: yeahm I stopped to order a pizza
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> erratic: all I did was search the web
[21:10] <erratic> k
[21:10] <erratic> thx
[21:10] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: there is a nice irssi-script to order pizza :)
[21:10] <gabrielo_> s
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: sweet
[21:11] <PepeLinux> hi
[21:13] <edoceo> I'm using  1.0 on Ubuntu 12.04, seems like some of the roms that were present in 0.15 are not there?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> edoceo: #ubuntu+1 for Precise support please
[21:17] <JessicaW> LF help with iscsi ubuntu 10.04 server...
[21:17] <JessicaW> I have a dell R810 with 4 network interfaces running ubuntu server 10.04. I'm trying to direct connect a dell md3220i iscsi SAN. I have ETH0 set to the main network and it's working fine. The IP address of the SAN ETH0 is <IP_ADDRESS>. I added ETH1 to /etc/network/interfaces and installed open-iscsi.
[21:18] <JessicaW> When I ifup eth1, it connects to the SAN via iscsi and then I can no longer ping or connect to ETH0
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: check your routing table?
[21:20] <JessicaW> not yet. route command right?
[21:20] <JessicaW> kind of new to this.
[21:22] <JessicaW> netstat -rn. got it. what am I looking for specifically?
[21:23] <Steevca> Chromium is reporting a missing plug-in on some youtube videos.
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: just:  route     will do, your default will obviously need to be going through not the iscsi
[21:24] <JessicaW> the default is going through eth0 but I currently have eth1 down
[21:26] <JessicaW> when I ifup eth1 I can no longer connect to it. Also, I noticed it reverts my hostname for <IP_ADDRESS> in etc/hosts to an old name we haven't used in a while.
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: thats normal, when you bring the interface up, check the route table again
[21:29] <JessicaW> oh. wow. yeah, it makes both ETH0 and ETH1 default
[21:29] <JessicaW> that's where the problem is right?
[21:30] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: I should probably learn IRC niceties and address you personally huh...
[21:35] <iroquois> is there a brand of UPS's that make software that's linux compatible?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: thanks :)
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: use tab to autocomplete
[21:37] <netbus> ActionParsnip: woah, i never knew the tab trick!!!!!!!!1
[21:37] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: oh that's so handy. Thanks.
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> netbus: works in terminal too ;)
[21:37] <netbus> ActionParsnip: i knew that part :P
[21:37] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: hahaha. *nods*
[21:38] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: so how do I make it so that it doesn't make eth1 a default route too?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: you can add stuff in the interfaces file to do stuff but i'm not so sure.
[21:40] <Steevca> Chromium is playing yotube videos and just stops and shows silver banner in the middle of the screen : "missing plug-in"
[21:41] <bekks> JessicaW: How does you network interfaces config file looks like currently?
[21:41] <bekks> ! paste > JessicaW
[21:42] <JessicaW> I think the problem is having two default gateways in one routing table
[21:43] <sirknight> how do i setup samba for a local network , with ftp
[21:44] <sirknight> oh and hi everyone
[21:44] <Teligard2> ok, how do you rebuld an fstab from scratch?
[21:44] <JessicaW> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/916635/
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: samba nad ftp are 2 different technologies
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> *and
[21:44] <DasEi> Teligard2: open a teminal ..
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: its either samba, or it's ftp
[21:45] <DasEi> Teligard2: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo blkid | pastebinit,  give resulting url here
[21:45] <erratic> ONEIRIC THE OCELOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:47] <DasEi> !fstab | Teligard2
[21:47] <Steevca> I am expiriencing laggying in the uninty 2d when scrolling.
[21:47] <bekks> JessicaW: The solution is pretty clear. You are setting a second and third gateway for eth1 and eth2 (besides the one for eth0).
[21:47] <bekks> *default gateway
[21:47] <bekks> That breaks things then.
[21:47] <JessicaW> bekks: how do I fix it though?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: what GPU do you use?
[21:48] <bekks> Just put a # before that both lines and restart networking. That should fix it.
[21:48] <Steevca> ATI Radeon 9550 open source drivers.
[21:48] <sirknight> ActionParsnip, i was seeing ppl do both , setup samba first the ftp into samba
[21:48] <JessicaW> bekks: according to the SAN documentation it needs a gateway
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: you can have both if you want
[21:48] <DasEi>  Teligard2 ?
[21:48] <bekks> JessicaW: then you have to set a dedicated route, and not another default gateway
[21:49] <bekks> JessicaW: Give it a shot without the gateway :)
[21:50] <JessicaW> bekks: :P you win. and I love you right now.
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: thats why its a community :)
[21:51] <Steevca> ActionParsnip, i am only experiencing the lag in the app. section in unity 2d.
[21:51] <sirknight> ActionParsnip, ok ... i need a samba  for local network , then a bowser like ftp  to get into file for the net on a differnt machine  like public wifi
[21:51] <erratic> UPGRAYD GOIN FIND U
[21:51] <JessicaW> now I just have to figure out how to make the iscsi work
[21:51] <bekks> JessicaW: :)
[21:52] <hsnmck> hello, is there a way to create an alias for a value in linux, for example instead of writing "ssh <IP_ADDRESS>" i would like to write "ssh routerIP"
[21:52] <hsnmck> thx
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: ftp isn't very secure at all
[21:52] <bekks> JessicaW: Basically I do doubt that the iscsi thing depends on a given gateway. If thats the case for that iscsi provider, they entirely broke their setup :)
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: if you install openssh-server you will get an sftp server
[21:52] <Multbrelch> hsnmck, alias dir='ls -al'
[21:53] <JessicaW> hsnmck: dns
[21:53] <sirknight> ActionParsnip,  whats that... sftp
[21:53] <bekks> hsnmck: Put "ipofrouter nameofrouter" in your /etc/hosts
[21:53] <hsnmck> Multbrelch: but alias works only for commands
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: secure ftp
[21:53] <Zal> sirknight, specifically, it is ftp-like access over ssh, in fact a subsystem of the ssh server
[21:53] <JessicaW> bekks: doesn't hosts get overwritten during upgrades?
[21:54] <hsnmck> bekks: well that was an example, but i wanted to know if i can create an alias for something
[21:54] <bekks> JessicaW: If so, I'll personally kill the developer who coded that.
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> hsnmck: add to ~/.bashrc       alias servername='ssh <IP_ADDRESS>'
[21:54] <JessicaW> lol
[21:54] <Escherial> is there any hope to get an application that maintains its own menubar into the unity bar?
[21:54] <Escherial> the app in question is pycharm, a python ide
[21:54] <boriseto> hello, i sorry for disturbing u guys, but i was wondering if somebody could help me with a grub problem i'm facing :/
[21:54] <Zal> ActionParsnip, one of my favorites! I have a gazillion of those
[21:55] <motherbrain> How is freebsd openbsd or opensolaris interms of supported x86 hardware /machines
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Zal: same :)
[21:55] <hsnmck> ActionParsnip: is it possible to make the alias only for the ip instead of the whole command
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> motherbrain: ask in #bsd
[21:55] <Escherial> i'm debating giving up on unity after all of the issues i've faced :\
[21:55] <sirknight> Zal,  i need it simple enough for a noob to send files from the office to the compuer im on now , which will be the server
[21:55] <bekks> hsnmck: I just told you :)
[21:55] <sirknight> ActionParsnip,  ok.
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> hsnmck: you could make an alias for the servername, not the IP (as far as I'm aware)
[21:56] <boriseto> anyone?
[21:56] <Escherial> the slideout sidebar, for instance, is highly unfriendly to anyone who uses an ide that makes significant use of the lefthand part of the screen
[21:56] <hsnmck> ok.. thanks
[21:56] <Zal> sirknight, well, most good FTP clients will probably also support SFTP, so that shouldn't be an issue.
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: nautilus can connct to SSHFS easily
[21:57] <Zal> hsnmck, sure, you can have: alias myserver="ssh -l special -P5555 ssh.mynetwork.com" or whatever
[21:57] <sirknight> ActionParsnip,  there no one going to hack me  ... and theres not much of of important files... well maybe kittys
[21:57] <Escherial> on the topic of nautilus and sshfs, you should beware of a flaky connection or, say, having to sleep your laptop...
[21:57] <Steevca> Can i install GTK3 themes in unity?
[21:57] <Zal> sirknight, you'd be surprised how many people will be glad to hack you
[21:58] <Escherial> it'll basically have a heart attack if your connection breaks (say, if you exceed the range of your wifi access point)
[21:58] <sirknight> ActionParsnip, Zal  i must get the samba up first
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: install the samba package and you can use nautilus to setup shares
[21:58] <Escherial> i feel fuddy today :\
[21:59] <lambdan> whats your guys highest uptime?
[22:00] <bencc> can I use apt-get source to get a package from a previous ubuntu release?
[22:01] <Zal> lambdan, about 4'1"
[22:01] <DasEi> lambdan: #ubuntu-offttopic, not my time today
[22:01] <lambdan> sorry
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> lambdan: my girlfriend says about 10 mins on a good day ;)
[22:03] <sirknight> Zal,  well they just ask me what  they want and ill give them the proxies of there life,
[22:06] <DasEi> bencc: not without trouble, as packets depend on other ones
[22:06] <Jordan_U> !language | ActionParsnip
[22:06] <DasEi> bencc: rather set up a vm on a previous release
[22:07] <bencc> DasEi: can I just download a specific package?
[22:07] <daniellog> Hi, I'm having some trouble trying to set up a KVM virtual machine on a server on my LAN, could anyone help me?
[22:08] <wylde> bencc: yes, but you will have to solve dependacy issues manually.
[22:08] <Jordan_U> !details | daniellog
[22:08] <netbus> !language | Jordan_U
[22:08] <DasEi> bencc: packages mostly depend on certain libs and other prerequisits, so need a stable environment
[22:08] <Teligard2> !fstab
[22:09] <DasEi> Teligard2: ask if questions, and the pastie ?
[22:09] <Teligard2> I figured out howto get the mappings to work, but inadvertantly overwrote the proc and other default mappings, and need to get them back
[22:10] <daniellog> I have a problem with ubuntu server 11.10 with kvm installed, I'm trying to use virt-manager to remotely connect to the instance to create a virtual machine, I'm able to connect to it but it can't see the local ubuntu installer disc in the server, I just get "Could not find media '/dev/sr1'"
[22:12] <skel> daniellog: to be clear, /dev/sr1 exists where libvirtd is running? the remote kvm host?
[22:12] <Jordan_U> daniellog: I'm familiar with kvm but not virt-manager. Do you know how to find the exact kvm command which is being run?
[22:13] <skel> daniellog: if so, it might be a group security issue with libvirt-qemu user not having access to /dev/sr1 or where it gets mounted. Have you tried just using isos?
[22:13] <wylde> daniellog: do you have the iso in an nfs/samba/nbd/ssh/etc... network share? If not the you'll have to move the installation file to the remote machine, and mount it into the VM from there.
[22:14] <daniellog> I think so, if I connect through putty I can see links cdrom1 -> sr1 etc (to be clear I have two dvd drives on the server)
[22:14] <daniellog> well I was following this guide
[22:14] <daniellog> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[22:15] <wylde> daniellog: in all truth you'll have fewer headaches just moving the iso over to the remote machine. IMHO.
[22:15] <Mean_Admin_> In Unity, under Software Center, I'm attempting to install GNOME Shell but the Install button is absent and instead, I find a greyed out "Use This Source" that would allow me to the universe repository
[22:15] <daniellog> ok so shall I just copy it onto a flash drive or something?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Mean_Admin_: try:  sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[22:16] <Teligard2> How do I find the UUID's necessary to remap my default items in the fstab?
[22:16] <wylde> daniellog: do you have remote access to the the server? If so just copy the iso to the remote machine over the network. I meant that doing a remote install with remote media is leaving yourself open for LOTS to go wrong. ;)
[22:16] <Mean_Admin_> ActionParsnip: no such package :(
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Teligard2: sudo blkid
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-shell
[22:17] <brianm> are there any docs for creating a ppa?
[22:17] <daniellog> yeah its on my local network, where should I copy it to on the server?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Mean_Admin_: did you enable the universe repo?
[22:17] <Mean_Admin_> ActionParsnip: I did but... I did not update ... brb, Im probalby an idiot
[22:17] <wylde> daniellog: somewhere that the user running the VM has access to.
[22:18] <brianm> google onlys eems to find things for using launchpad's ppa
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Mean_Admin_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[22:18] <daniellog> would I need to add it kvm as some sort of storage pool?
[22:19] <wylde> daniellog: you'll need to know how to get to the iso to have the VM mount it as sr1 :)
[22:19] <daniellog> so your saying copy it over to the server, then mnt the iso to /dev/sr0?
[22:20] <fission6> how do i let any user write to a folder?
[22:20] <wylde> daniellog: yep
[22:20] <hiexpo> fission6, add user is all
[22:21] <daniellog> ok I'll give it a try now
[22:21] <wylde> daniellog: sorry I can be more specific, I've used kvm but don't have it available to check on commands and whatnot.
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> fission6: sudo chmod o+w folder
[22:21] <haux> How do I configure ubuntu to boot into command line, so I have to type startx to get into xfce? ...rather than loading directly to the gui login.
[22:22] <Mean_Admin_> ActionParsnip: yea, I was an idiot, no apt-get update, thanks
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> haux: add the boot option:   text
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Mean_Admin_: its groovy
[22:22] <hiexpo> oops soory didn't know it was to a specific folder
[22:22] <daniellog> @wylde its ok I'll just try to mount it
[22:22] <Teligard2> Thank you :-)
[22:22] <haux> ActionParsnip, where do I add this? grub?
[22:23] <daniellog> I'm looking at open source hypervisors and how they compare to close source ones for my university project, been trying to get KVM working all day which isn't good :P
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> haux: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub   change this line:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"    to      GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash text"     save the new file, close gedit and run:  sudo update-grub
[22:24] <bekks> ActionParsnip: thats done with a kernel cmd line in ubuntu? wow. :)
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> bekks: well, there are  2 commands, one to edit the file and one to apply it
[22:25] <gear4> hihi
[22:25] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I'm just wondering that it's basically a kernel cmdline thing. didnt know that
[22:25] <gear4> Why doesn't mod_rewrite exist ? (I try to enable it)
[22:26] <hiexpo> hi/hi ActionParsnip
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> bekks: oh yeah, you just add that and it will not load the UI login thing
[22:26] <wylde> gear4: uhhh did you install and enable the mod?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> hi hiexpo :)
[22:26] <TRAVISg> Problem with Chromium in ubuntu 11.10. Won't start terminal says. Segmentation fault refers to apps/chromium.rc not existing
[22:26] <gear4> wylde, that's the thing: How ?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:26] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Seems a bit odd in terms of runlevels, but ok :)
[22:27] <hiexpo> should give the name of the release I think
[22:28] <gear4> wylde, that's the thing: How ?
[22:28] <TRAVISg> oneiric
[22:28] <wylde> gear4: moment
[22:28] <gear4> wylde, kk
[22:29] <Teligard2> anyone familiar with this error:
[22:29] <Teligard2> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: you could try:    mv ~/.config/chromium ~/.config/chromium_old       then rerun the browser
[22:29] <Stelpa> hey, i've got a stupid question
[22:29] <Teligard2> I get a notification that I need to adjust my audiosettings, but have no idea where to go
[22:29] <fishcooker> hello fellas
[22:29] <Stelpa> how can you go about removing the ".sh" extension on a bash script
[22:30] <fishcooker> how to know the ubuntu series from command line?
[22:30] <Stelpa> oh god
[22:30] <Stelpa> hahaha
[22:30] <Teligard2> Stelpa: mv filename.sh filename
[22:30] <Stelpa> nevermind
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Stelpa: use the mv command
[22:30] <Zal> Stelpa, just rename the file.
[22:30] <Stelpa> lol
[22:30] <FloodBot1> Stelpa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:30] <Stelpa> just realize you can rename it >_<
[22:30] <fishcooker> from command line ?
[22:30] <Stelpa> sorry about that, told you it was stupid! :D
[22:31] <fishcooker> ou i c from cat /etc/lsb-release
[22:31] <ldiamond> is there a way to verify that a usb stick is still good? i.e. write / read to see if it's got dead "sectors"
[22:31] <fishcooker> how to upgrade to natty in such charm way
[22:31] <wylde> gear4: sorry, was on the phone and flipping papers everywhere heh.
[22:32] <gear4> np wylde lol
[22:32] <fishcooker> i do in $ apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:32] <fishcooker> but not success
[22:32] <wylde> gear4: sudo a2enmod rewrite && sudo service apache2 restart
[22:32] <wylde> gear4: errr I assumed apache2, I hope I assumed correctly
[22:32] <fishcooker> how to upgrade to the next release?
[22:32] <gear4> ah
[22:32] <gear4> yes
[22:33] <fishcooker> in charm way?
[22:33] <gear4> apache2
[22:33] <gear4> fishcooker, update-manager -d
[22:33] <fishcooker> no luck gear4
[22:33] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip it's running starts do you want output?
[22:33] <atome> hi there
[22:33] <fishcooker> in command line
[22:33] <fishcooker> i prefer
[22:33] <gear4> oh
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> gear4: thats for development versions, not to Oneiric
[22:33] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip doesn't look quite right
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | fishcooker
[22:33] <fishcooker> should i change the sources.list
[22:34] <gear4> ActionParsnip, I upgrade to Oneiric like that
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> gear4: yes, when oneiric was in development
[22:34] <atome> I'm on kubuntu 11.10 I recently update the kernel via apt (3.0.0-18-generic) and since this time all is completly crashy, ow can I downgrade proprely my kernel ??
[22:34] <gear4> ActionParsnip, no
[22:34] <gear4> When release
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: run the browser now and you will have a default profile, does it run ok?
[22:35] <fishcooker> thanks actionparsnip
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> gear4:      read update-manager    ;)
[22:35] <atome> some one can help me ?
[22:35] <gear4> ActionParsnip, kk
[22:36] <fishcooker> in command line actionparsnip
[22:36] <fishcooker> ?
[22:36] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip no it starts but when I try to sign in it quits would you like the output?
[22:36] <fishcooker> i've no luck there
[22:37] <fishcooker> esp with update manager
[22:37] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip now it is back to not opening at all
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: strange, you can rename the old profile back if you want the old profile back :), I'd report a bug
[22:37] <dlentz> atome, if you didn't remove the previous kernel, you can still boot into it
[22:37] <bkerensa> TRAVISg: surely report a bug :)
[22:37] <Felishia> hi! it's me again :P
[22:38] <dlentz> atome, hold shift at boot to access the grub menu and choose the kernel
[22:38] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip never done that don't know how
[22:38] <Felishia> any idea on voice recognition on ubuntu bash
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: run:   ubuntu-bug chromium-browser
[22:38] <accipter> When installing python packages, apt-get is installing python2.6 versions, but /usr/bin/python is point to /usr/bin/python2.7. How do I have apt-get select 2.7 instead?
[22:39] <atome> mmm
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> Felishia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux
[22:39] <dlentz> accipter, you can use galternatives package to select default python version
[22:39] <mongy> atome: http://askubuntu.com/questions/119223/updating-to-3-0-0-18-generic-new-linux-kernel-ubuntu-carshed
[22:40] <atome> dlentz: and if I apt-get remove && apt-get autoremove the last kernel still there ?
[22:40] <fishcooker> actionparsnip, there is no show new distribution release
[22:40] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip entered ubuntu-bug chromium-browser  output was segmentation fault. Is that what I wanted?
[22:40] <dlentz> apt-get remove what?
[22:40] <atome> thx mongy I check :)
[22:40] <Guest95808> is it right for me to choose Ubuntu Server ?!
[22:40] <fishcooker> on the software sources
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: use the server method, much easier
[22:40] <fishcooker> where is it
[22:40] <fishcooker> ?
[22:40] <atome> oups dlentz I would say apt-get clean && apt-get autoclean
[22:41] <Felishia> going to check :)
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest95808: if you need a desktop UI, install the desktop
[22:41] <dlentz> atome, that doesn't remove an old kernel, so you should still have it
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: its on the same page
[22:42] <fishcooker> ou sorry actionparsnip
[22:42] <fishcooker> im on oneiric btw
[22:42] <fishcooker> how to upgrade to 12 PP
[22:42] <fishcooker> ?
[22:42] <Guest95808> i joined recently a retail business with pc power as 10 PC's and 4 cashier
[22:42] <Guest95808> ?!
[22:42] <fishcooker> sorry
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: oh then you want:  sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[22:42] <Guest95808> do you recommend me >!?
[22:42] <accipter> dlentz: I don't want to change from python2.7
[22:42] <fishcooker> i've check out at /etc/lsb-release
[22:42] <atome> guys you are so cool merci :)
[22:43] <Guest95808> to use the Ubuntu server or Windows 2008 server instead ?!
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest95808: what is the server going to do?
[22:44] <Guest95808> just ERP application(finance , commercial , HR , WH ) and the files server with backup capability ,,
[22:45] <alfredo> hi, help with debugging shell
[22:46] <alfredo> needing help please
[22:47] <Felishia> well I'll be more specific this time :)
[22:47] <Felishia> I have a bash executable
[22:47] <Felishia> that runs a python script according to a given input
[22:47] <Felishia> the input is a command
[22:47] <Felishia> but I want the input to be a voice input
[22:48] <Felishia> how can I do that?
[22:49] <gtech__> So when I use ctrl-alt-F1 my screen goes psychadelic and freezes, I can go back to my normal x-session by hitting ctrl-alt-F8, I'm assuming this is a video card driver issue, my xorg.conf shows intel as the driver but I'm not sure what version I'm using and wheneer I try to switch to an nvidia driver I just get a blank screen my graphics card is a NVS 3100M which can switch to intel integrated graphics
[22:50] <gtech__> I guess my first question is how do I find out what specific driver I'm using?
[22:53] <Rave1> .
[22:54] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip Tried running ubuntu-bug chromium-browser it just said segmentation fault
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: oh man, not good
[22:55] <CJKay> 'Sup guys, the update manager doesn't seem to give me any option to update to 12.04 even though I've got it to notify of any update (not just LTS)
[22:55] <BobMarley> this chat room must be the biggest one, 1559 users..
[22:55] <jrib> CJKay: 12.04 hasn't been released yet
[22:56] <CJKay> Well there already appears to be guides to update to it, and one of the bug fixes of a problem I have was to update to Precise
[22:56] <jrib> CJKay: it hasn't been released yet.  It's in beta.
[22:56] <ggherdov> hi all. Amateur sysadmin down here. I'd like to embellish my apache with FastCGI, what is my XY in "apt-get install XY" to get this done?
[22:56] <CJKay> That's fine by me, I've always used beta releases
[22:56] <jrib> !12.04 | CJKay
[22:56] <CJKay> Ooh
[22:56] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip Okay I am sweating now... Fresh install time?
[22:56] <CJKay> Thanks
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> !bug | TRAVISg
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: reinstall.....for a browser...?
[22:58] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip I thought that the failure to be able to report the bug might mean that there is a bigger problem
[22:59] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip I am not very knowledgeable...yet
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: there is a web interface you can use
[23:04] <naruto> slt tt monde
[23:04] <Kaleidoscope> Is it possible to install an OS through ubuntu on to a second HD Partition?
[23:05] <iceroot> Kaleidoscope: no
[23:05] <iceroot> Kaleidoscope: maybe with a vm which is writing directly to the hdd
[23:06] <iceroot> Kaleidoscope: but normally the os boot cd is the way to go
[23:06] <iceroot> !dualboot | Kaleidoscope
[23:07] <Kaleidoscope> iceroot, I would agree here, But my Laptops Disk drive has failed, and I don't have me a handy usb stick
[23:07] <Kaleidoscope> How might one go the VM route?
[23:08] <CJKay> Kaleidoscope: Set up a VMDK file that links to /dev/sd*
[23:08] <Kaleidoscope> CJKay, Alright, I'll give it a go, Thanks
[23:08] <CJKay> Mind, how exactly are you running the laptop if the drive has failed and you don't have a USB stick handy?
[23:09] <CJKay> Live CD?
[23:09] <Kaleidoscope> No, I already have linux installed on here, I just like to have a second one installed
[23:12] <DarsVaeda> how do I report kernel error? the newest kernel gives my machine a lot headaches, dozen of apps chrash on random events, but how do I report that?
[23:14] <iceroot> DarsVaeda: ubuntu-bug linux
[23:14] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, you sure it is kernel errors ? you know a lot of people are running it and so wants to start some troubleshooting ? (just saying)
[23:14] <iceroot> DarsVaeda: just use that command and apport will assist you
[23:14] <DarsVaeda> sure, I switched back to the older one and everything works as expected
[23:15] <DarsVaeda> though maybe some memory failure first too, but after that, I'm sure
[23:15] <DarsVaeda> iceroot: thanks
[23:15] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, ok, good start did you modify anything ?what happens during crash ? do you have core dumps ? do the application go away ?
[23:16] <DarsVaeda> mainly segfaults in chrome (at least it says so), in the kernellog there is only cryptic lines (for me) about some IP thing
[23:21] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, ok well it is difficult to help you, but you can report or if you have some logs anything in /var/log/messages ?
[23:22] <Malsasa> Hello, last night I have browsing with Oneiric. Then I don't know why, Unity crashed (strange) and I do sudo reboot. After reboot, I enter my password in LightDM. Appear black screen with so many messages (just 0.5 second) and the appearance back to LightDM. I enter my password again but the condition is same. I have tried this for +- 10 times. How to fix this?   What is the command to disable this?
[23:23] <DarsVaeda> phil_fl: I will reboot into the failing kernel and check the logs, there are errors in it
[23:23] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda you can check no need to reboot now
[23:24] <Replicant> Malsasa, can you log in with another user?
[23:24] <Malsasa> Yes.
[23:24] <Malsasa> But appearance after login just a panel at top without any menu and any dash.
[23:25] <KingFisher> Hello...How do I route my browser through a shell account using a *nix OS?
[23:26] <Replicant> try to reset compiz config for that user
[23:26] <KingFisher> I need to make an HTTP proxy
[23:26] <KingFisher> basically
[23:26] <Malsasa> Unity DE is not appear, and maximum I can login to guest GNOME Classic only. But I want the complete one Unity. I don't know why my Unity become like this.
[23:26] <Malsasa> Replicant, how to reset Compiz?
[23:26] <Replicant> but first, to be sure
[23:27] <Malsasa> Replicant, to be sure...?
[23:27] <Replicant> can you log in with gnome 3 shell, xfce or another desktop environment?
[23:27] <XGaryG> Is there a setting somewhere for the system to remember where windows were? So my browser or whatever will reappear wherever they were before?
[23:27] <Malsasa> Just GNOME Classic in guest account.
[23:28] <Replicant> but the other account is broken also for GNOME Classic?
[23:28] <guest-MO894k> jj
[23:28] <Malsasa> Replicant, do you know what problem I have? I don't know why this problem happened.
[23:28] <guest-MO894k> üüü
[23:28] <KingFisher> How do I route my browser traffic through a shell account in Ubuntu?
[23:28] <KingFisher> Can I make an HTTP proxy with a shell account in Ubuntu?
[23:29] <Malsasa> Replicant, persistant. Another account shows only a bar on top but I can't access any menu.
[23:29] <Replicant> try this one: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tip-how-to-reset-compiz-settings-to-default-system-settings-from-command-line.html
[23:29] <fishcooker> actionparsnip, no luck here
[23:29] <Malsasa> Replicant, thank you. I am opening your link.
[23:29] <Replicant> I had similar issue when playing with Compiz Malsasa
[23:30] <Replicant> no windows, no dock... etc
[23:30] <Malsasa> Replicant, hmmm, suddenly the Unity dead, no dock, no menu, like that?
[23:30] <spaceneedle> The top utility was reporting high cpu usage -18%--for Hud-service. It is now normal.
[23:30] <Replicant> exactly
[23:30] <Grivvel> Does anyone know why my computer would be dropping about one out of every two packets when the wireless signal is above 40/70 signal strength in iwconfig? If I just try to ping the router, about half the messages are dropped.
[23:31] <Replicant> so could be the same
[23:31] <Malsasa> OKay, I will try this.
[23:31] <DarsVaeda> phil_fl: here is an example: http://pastebin.com/Ai2CzsUV
[23:31] <fishcooker> i cant update to PP
[23:31] <fishcooker> no luck still
[23:31] <fishcooker> anyone
[23:31] <fishcooker> with command line
[23:31] <beandog> Grivvel: try changing your channel
[23:32] <demonboy> is 12.04 still in ubntu +! for support
[23:32] <Malsasa> I have to restart. Thank you for your complete attention, Replicant.
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: can you give the output of:   sudo do-release-upgrade -d     Thanks
[23:33] <jeremiah_> why does ubuntu keep freezing for me???
[23:33] <fishcooker> i've closed it
[23:33] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, you have 2 graphic cards ?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: rerun it.....
[23:33] <fishcooker> it said screen terminating
[23:33] <DarsVaeda> not that I know of
[23:36] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, lokks like a problem in  libpthread-2.13.so
[23:37] <DarsVaeda> got another two, nothing about any lib, just general protection
[23:38] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, well yes use apport information to report it
[23:38] <DarsVaeda> usually happend in browser either firefox or chrome with java, so I thought thats the problem but minutes ago it crashed nautilus while trying to load a folder with videos
[23:39] <DarsVaeda> now it crashed the bug reporter with segmentation fault...^^
[23:40] <DarsVaeda> nope can not report it via the tool, only get segfaults :(
[23:42] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/972821
[23:43] <anadon> Hello!  I need some help getting my system to boot.  /boot got formatted, so kernel images and grub are gone.
[23:44] <DarsVaeda> phil_fl: oh yep got an thinkpad too, seems to be my problem, thanks
[23:45] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, seems that http://people.canonical.com/~herton/fpu_bug/ might fix your bug or wait a bit and it will be fixed
[23:46] <DarsVaeda> I'll try that too
[23:46] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, that's only if you need this kernel though you might be ok like you are now
[23:48] <DarsVaeda> ahh its not my productive machine so I can "beta"-test
[23:53] <alteregod> hi
[23:53] <alteregod> i got  a weird message on my desktop, its darmok and jalad at tanagra, after i installed riker v.1
[23:58] <seroki> website is down episode 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlbrL1H1ngs&feature=plcp&context=C45f84b9VDvjVQa1PpcFMLYcWz_aNNAImt-TvC3hd8nv8D4PHDfuA=


[05:45] <didrocks> good morning
[07:03] <oSoMoN> good morning
[08:25] <zzzharry> hi, i´m really angry. I´ve installed ubuntu 11.10 and i have to say ,, unity is really bad thing for ubuntu". It´s a step back for this great system. Sorry fot it but i feel that. is possible new versions of ubutnu has no unity?
[08:48] <arpu> smspillaz, hello is this an unity bug ? or should i evestigate to oder packages? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/874897
[08:49] <smspillaz> I can look into with with compiz, flash is probably doing something weird
[09:02] <arpu> smspillaz, hmm it test with  new flash 11 and old 10.1 firefox chrome
[09:03] <arpu> thx a lot
[10:30] <om26er> gord, around?
[10:30] <gord> om26er, hey, whats up
[10:30] <om26er> gord, i am fine
[10:31] <om26er> gord, there is a regression in the SRU
[10:31] <om26er> bug 875023
[10:31] <om26er> gord, are you already aware ?
[10:32] <gord> om26er, yeah we i saw you mention that but you pinged out before i could respond :) should be fixed by now (though i don't think we sent a new release to platform yet for the sru)
[10:33] <om26er> gord, the SRU have been uploaded I believe, awaiting ack from Ubuntu SRU team
[10:34] <om26er> maybe didrocks cherry-picked the fix for it
[10:34] <didrocks> there is one pending in -approved
[11:38] <sbte> smspillaz, the iconify bug seems more-or-less fixed in oneiric, so thanks for that (if you're the one who fixed it)
[11:58] <andyrock> JohnLea, what about adding an help label to display settings panel?
[12:00] <andyrock> JohnLea, look here https://launchpadlibrarian.net/82857928/Selection_006.png
[12:00] <andyrock> of coure the label should change when we are not using unity ;)
[12:04] <smspillaz> sbte: :)
[12:05] <sbte> smspillaz, seems like you have to click twice now instead of once to get the window, but that's better than no window at all :P
[12:21] <smspillaz> sbte: yeah, you have to activate the original window and then activate it again and it will unminimize initially minimized windows
[12:23] <sbte> smspillaz, I meant that you have to open the window switcher twice to get it in the window switcher
[12:23] <sbte> it will actually be unminimized after the first time, but it won't appear in the window switcher
[12:59] <Saviq> greyback_: thanks for your work on the launcher, will review soon
[13:01] <JohnLea> andyrock; yes a help label would be helpful ;-)  I'm not sure the second line in the linked image is needed though as the dropdown for selecting which monitor displays the launcher is quite self explanatory  (it makes the launcher drag feature a nice to have rather than a necessity)
[13:12] <andyrock> JohnLea, i had not noticed the dropdown ;)
[13:13] <andyrock> JohnLea, it makes sense ;)
[13:33] <arpu> smspillaz,  do you need more infos on the flash click bug?
[15:36] <kenvandine> tedg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-indicator/+bug/809284
[15:37] <kenvandine> tedg, i think that bug has been fixed since in tp-indicator... but do you think it should stay open for libindicate to protect from that?
[15:38] <kenvandine> tedg, setting the sender to a value that doesn't pass g_utf8_validate
[15:38] <tedg> kenvandine, Uhg, I'm not sure.  It seems like it's something we don't want people doing, but I guess we could give a better error.
[15:39] <kenvandine> yeah... your call
[15:39] <kenvandine> :)
[15:40] <kenvandine> I've fixed the handling of getting the alias since that version, so it should always be valid
[15:40] <kenvandine> but this had been marked as affecting libindicate, so you can change the status for libindicate
[15:52] <tedg> kenvandine, Decided to go with invalid, mostly because the crash was in the validate function... so I couldn't validate it anymore than that...
[15:53] <kenvandine> wfm
[16:33] <and471> is there anyway to hide the debug output of the indicators?
[16:33] <and471> I am using libindicator and would like to see my own application's debug stuff :)
[16:34] <apinheiro> njpatel, hi, one question, I added you as reviewer of those huge a11y branches, should I also add lamalex as usual, or this is enough?
[16:39] <lamalex> apinheiro, feel free to add me an ill take a look
[16:41] <apinheiro> lamalex, ok thanks
[16:41] <apinheiro> but as I said, first one is huge ;), sorry
[17:00] <kenvandine> Trevinho, thx for the gtk patch, i merged it and uploaded it for an SRU
[17:40]  * jussi waves
[17:41] <jussi> anyone awake atm?
[18:12] <jussi> yer all boring I tells ye! :D
[18:13] <greyback> jussi: are not
[18:13] <jussi> greyback: :)
[18:14] <greyback> jussi: :P
[18:14] <jussi> greyback: are you actively working on ayatana?
[18:15] <greyback> jussi: I work on Unity2D. I try to implement the vision of the ayatana team.
[18:15] <jussi> ahh, nice
[18:16] <greyback> jussi: You using Unity?
[18:16] <jussi> greyback: sometimes, Im kurrently on KDE :D
[18:17] <greyback> jussi: ok, was just curious
[18:18] <jussi> greyback: I like unity, but the lack of configurability and several annoying bugs just got too much for me (I did a 30 day trial coming from kde)
[18:20] <greyback> jussi: understood. Your is not a uncommon opinion. Hopefully the bugs have been squashed since. It's good that you gave it a fair try
[18:22] <jussi> greyback: yeah, one of the bugs your dev and I have differing opinions (thats fine, it still needs to be fixed in some way, so hopefully it gets sorted in some way or another), and the lack of configurability really hit me (coming from kde, what can I say)
[18:23] <greyback> jussi: yeah, kde has spoiled you in that respect :)
[18:24] <greyback> jussi: I like that things are set out "just-so" - I spend much less time fiddling to get things right, and just get on with my work
[18:25] <greyback> jussi: but then, I'm hardly unbiased ;)
[18:25] <jussi> hehe
[18:26] <jussi> greyback: one thing I found hard to get used to was all the stuff that was hiding all the time. (Im not a fan of mouseovers, for me they slow things down - its kind of like those phones where you have to hold a key down to unlock)
[18:27] <jussi> but let me say this, overall the interface has a very good look and feel, and many of the items work really nice.
[18:29] <greyback> jussi: good point on the hiding stuff. I hope that the config to stop the launcher (bar down left of screen) hiding becomes easier to find.
[18:31] <greyback> jussi: I'm not hugely fanatical about the workings of the menubar for a maximised window (hiding window buttons). If I have one window maximised, and another window in front, I keep trying to click the panel to give focus to the maximised window
[18:32] <greyback> But much work is done on consistency, layout and design, and I do like the improvements. The polish is great.
[18:34] <jussi> greyback: also, one small thing that I notice that you may want to pick up on:  the placement of windows when opened - for example it opens in the top left corner, behind the launcher. and then you need to wait for the launcher to disappear before you can do/see stuff...
[18:36] <greyback> jussi: yep, common issue that. Thanks tho
[18:36] <jussi> :)
[18:37] <jussi> ooh, one strange thing - dont know if this is you or I need to talk to the kubuntu guys, but when I shutdown now, I get a breif flash of unity/gnome running when I shut down kde... is this normal?
[18:39] <greyback> jussi: strange! Probably a Kubuntu thing, but if you've mixed Unity & KDE on the same machine, heaven knows what's going on! In Compiz, is the Unity plugin on?
[18:39] <jussi> no, we dont use compiz in kde (kwin does that)
[18:40] <jussi> although nautilus is running...
[18:40] <jussi> I wonder if tats the issue...
[18:40]  * jussi kills
[18:40] <greyback> jussi: oh of course, sorry.
[18:40] <greyback> jussi: been a long time since i used KDE
[18:41] <jussi> well bed time now... talk to you again sometime.
[18:41] <jussi> lets see if it does same now Ive killed nautilus
[18:41] <greyback> jussi: nice chatting, good night!
[20:11] <slydawg> anyone in this room?
[22:46] <rob_> Hi folks, hoping you can help me out.
[22:47] <rob_> I may have the wrong channel, if so, please point me in the right direction.
[22:47] <rob_> I have a 5.1 onboard soundcard, channelled through the standard three outputs at the back "Mic / Out / Line Out"
[22:47] <rob_> And a 5.1 setup.
[22:47] <rob_> I've tried editing the etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[22:47] <rob_> and looking at the ALSA mixer through the terminal
[22:47] <rob_> but to no avail.
[23:44] <almufadado> hi there