[10:08] <LjL> lauriexxx, somehow it strikes me as very weird that you tried pietro's method (which was wrong, anyway) *before* my command, because if you did, my command should have showed "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.old", not xorg.conf
[10:08] <dgt84> Satchel: I wonder why mplayer was updated recently on dapper then... if you are pulling some new parts in and mixing with old libraries weird things can happen
[10:08] <Brandon420^> :) greatly be appricated.
[10:08] <Jowi> tao4mike, "killall firefox-bin"
[10:08] <Satchel> well its working but the graphics are crap
[10:08] <Nutubuntu> Thx, Jowi
[10:08] <Jowi> tao4mike, or
[10:09] <dgt84> Satchel: maybe mplayer's configuration has changed? I'm not sure about how to set it up since I don't use it.
[10:09] <Brandon420^> Nutubuntu: thats a creative nick. ;)
[10:09] <Jowi> tao4mike, firefox -ProfileManager
[10:09] <aajvs99> anyone no how to setup surrond sound via onboard?
[10:09] <unimatrix9> Brandon420 i am not to good woth soundcards, but go ahead and state the problem, there are lots of others that can help out
[10:09] <LjL> lauriexxx: anyway, that line (if there is only that line) would seem to indicate that no backup was made. so dpkg-reconfigure again and try to make it work. select the "vesa" driver for failsafe X startup. if you have an nvidia card, you can try selecting "nv", and if you have ati, i think it's "ati" ("nv" and "ati" as opposed to the proprietary drivers)
[10:09] <lauriexxx> LjL: sorry, i was reading from the bottom to the top, just that alone is weired i guess, anyway just rebooting, but x server is still down, i m so sad...
[10:09] <Nutubuntu> <-- Learning ... not so "Nu" someday ;)
[10:09] <Nutubuntu> Thx again all
[10:09] <aajvs99> no problem just two channel sound but i have 5.1 setup
[10:10] <Brandon420^> unimatrix9: ok. I am new to Linux all together. I have no sound and the troubleshooting guides are leading me no where. :( x 5
[10:10] <iFries> Hi :) I just installed Ubuntu on my 1st disk(hda1), but I have another(ntfs) disk with 2 partitions, how do I remove those partitions and get 1 ext3 partition back ? Thanx!
[10:10] <dgt84> Satchel: some of this might be useful, not sure: http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/747/
[10:10] <Brandon420^> sound worked fine while I was using windows.
[10:10] <tao4mike> upon entering killall firefox-bin it says no process killed
[10:10] <unimatrix9> Brandon420 whats the card , brand?
[10:10] <Voyage_> what can i do to install build essential. i dl all required packages. it says some are not configured.
[10:10] <lauriexxx> LjL: I just hate ATi drivers, they're so useless, give me a cheasy intel anyday...
[10:10] <LjL> Voyage_: you did what? downloaded?
[10:10] <aajvs99> onboard sound card
[10:10] <Brandon420^> unimatrix: I couldn't even tell ya bro. I think its a riptide.
[10:11] <Voyage_> LjL yes
[10:11] <ferronica> ubuntu 7.04 wont detect my nokia 6101 mobile phone connected via USB but lsusb showing nokia phone what i do to access my mobile
[10:11] <LjL> Voyage_: to install build-essential, you should merely type  sudo apt-get install build-essential . any downloading will be done automatically.
[10:11] <LjL> !software > Voyage_    (Voyage_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:11] <Jowi> iFries, launch "gparted", select the disk with the NTFS partitions, remove the partitions and apply the changes. then create a ext3 partition in new empty space and apply the changes.
[10:11] <unimatrix9> Brandon420 : there is no sound icon on the right above corner of you gnome desktop?
[10:11] <Jowi> iFries, I am assuming that when you say "remove" you mean "destroy the two ntfs partitions"
[10:11] <demonic_fury> anyone want to help me with setting up Wine, Steam, and CSS?
[10:11] <Anton99> !source code
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about source code - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <Anton99> !source
[10:12] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[10:12] <lauriexxx> LjL: do you hink i could be saving my time with a fresh install?
[10:12] <Brandon420^> unimatrix9: Nah man. I have chcked it. All the volumes are up and it is NOT muted.
[10:12] <iFries> Jowi: Yes, I do. gparted, is that something I have in my ubuntu installation defaultly ?
[10:12] <Jowi> !gparted
[10:12] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:12] <LjL> lauriexxx: hardly.
[10:12] <LjL> lauriexxx: unless you installed stuff (drivers for instance) not from the official repositories
[10:12] <unimatrix9> Brandon420 open terminal and type lspci , see what card it is
[10:12] <iFries> Jowi: Thanks :)
[10:12] <Voyage_> LjL i have a winmodem. i was dl build to actually install winmodem. its driver. i cant use apt or package manager
[10:13] <Jowi> iFries, no prob :)
[10:13] <Brandon420^> !spci
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <Brandon420^> ok
[10:13] <LjL> !offline > Voyage_    (Voyage_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:13] <teamwork_> is there a graphical rcconf program?
[10:13] <lauriexxx> LjL: but i m sucha pathetic little newb
[10:13] <unimatrix9> thats lspci
[10:13] <unimatrix9> an l like in leslie
[10:13] <LjL> lauriexxx, what video card do you have again?
[10:13] <Brandon420^> oh
[10:13] <Brandon420^> ok
[10:13] <lauriexxx> LjL: ATI unfortunately
[10:13] <unimatrix9> !lspci
[10:13] <Paddy_EIRE> could someone tell me why when I go to ntfs configuration tool it loads up nicely and shows that I have "/dev/sda2" which is a vista install, then when I tick the box to enable support and add a mount point such as "/media/windows" it gives me this error "/media/windows" contains an invalid character please choose a name not a directory???
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <Brandon420^> Would what it be listed? Multimedia Controller
[10:14] <Brandon420^> ?
[10:14] <unimatrix9> yes i guess so
[10:14] <LjL> lauriexxx: then type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , when asked about the driver select "ati", and leave the other sensible defaults alone.
[10:14] <lauriexxx> LjL: I m going to try and install a kubuntu desktop to get x working, do you think this will work?
[10:14] <tao4mike> hmm...I recreated my profile and because my profile is stored on a seperate partition I browsed for it.  at which point it asked for my password and um...I suppose "mounted" that partition?  anyhow now my thunderbird works as well which has it's profile on the same partition.  so maybe it was because the partition wasn't mounted?  is there a way to automatically mount that partition when I log on?  thanks!
[10:14] <Brandon420^>  Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International Unknown device 4310
[10:14] <Brandon420^> unimatrix9:
[10:15] <unimatrix9> lauriexxx , that wont work , you need to setup the xorg first
[10:15] <LjL> lauriexxx: eh? what does installing kubuntu-desktop have to do with X?
[10:15] <aricz> Hi, uhm, how do I access my cdrom ? :)
[10:15] <Mustang_Matt> How can I type spanish letters in ubuntu?
[10:15] <unimatrix9> Brandon420, its an onboard device? whats the board brand , do you know that?
[10:15] <Mustang_Matt> WIthout changing my keyboard layout.
[10:16] <Brandon420^> unimatrix9: I sure don't. This computer is very old. Its a hewlette packard pc.
[10:16] <sebas_> Mustang_Matt:what is the difference between the spanish and your letters?
[10:16] <Mustang_Matt> sebas_: the accents, etc.
[10:16] <lauriexxx> LjL: as i said, i really am a novice with ubuntu, this is only my second year...
[10:16] <unimatrix9> Brandon420 , the best solution would be to buy an cheap sound card that works with ubuntu..
[10:16] <Mustang_Matt> sebas_: I'd show you but I can't type them :)
[10:17] <unimatrix9> got an free pci slot?
[10:17] <LjL> lauriexxx: why don't you just do what i suggested?
[10:17] <Brandon420^> Nah they are all booked up.
[10:17] <unimatrix9> Brandon420 : your onboard card is not supported i guess..
[10:17] <sebas_> Mustang_Matt: System>Preferences>Keyboard>Layouts
[10:17] <LjL> Mustang_Matt: i'm pretty sure GNOME has an applet you can add to the panel to insert characters
[10:17] <lauriexxx> LjL: i doing, I doing
[10:17] <Brandon420^> unimatrix9: When I use alsamixer. It says Riptide on the top
[10:18] <Brandon420^> but when I use the lspci it says Rockwell
[10:18] <Brandon420^> I think my sound card and modem are together.
[10:18] <unimatrix9> Brandon420 :  i think you are right
[10:18] <unimatrix9> do you use the modem?
[10:18] <pipatron> NP: Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me
[10:18] <Brandon420^> nah, ethernet.
[10:18] <Brandon420^> ;)
[10:18] <aricz> Hi, trying again.. I have 1 CDROM and 1 CD-/DVDROM.. the dvdrom I'm pretty sure still works, but, because of hardwareproblems, I can't open it anymore.. so I have to access my CDROM instead.. but where? and how? Do I have to uninstall the CD-/DVDROM first?
[10:19] <lauriexxx> LjL: this is the 3 rd time i ve busted my x server, whenever i have to reconfigure X, i just don't understand the options it gives me,
[10:19] <Voyage_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent doenst works for me. can you tell why? i have modules in synaptic or adept. but it says no ltmodem module found. and 10-local.rules says at boot that its invalid.
[10:19] <ice9> is there a server irc channel for ubuntu
[10:19] <lauriexxx> LjL: this is the 3 rd time i ve busted my x server, whenever i have to reconfigure X, i just don't understand the options it gives me,
[10:19] <unimatrix9> Brandon420 :  where is your sound system plugged in? is that on the modem?
[10:19] <unimatrix9> speakers
[10:20] <Scunizi> ice9,your in it
[10:20] <Mustang_Matt> LjL: That would be perfect, any idea of what I should look for?
[10:20] <Brandon420^> Nah. But it has a wire running from where I plug in the audio jacks down to the modem.
[10:20] <ice9> is the new enterprise server out yet or no
[10:20] <Brandon420^> like the outputs are on top and the modem is on the bottom
[10:20] <yann> hi
[10:20] <hydan> i've " ln -sf ~/.xinitrc .xsession ", is there a way to go back to the original ubuntu settings?
[10:20] <lauriexxx> LjL: OK, got X server back up, but very low quality, is there no way to get the original values back?
[10:20] <phil56> I need some one to help me with ssh tunneling
[10:20] <LjL> Mustang_Matt, i don't remember the name, and i don't use GNOME... but just right click on the panel and "Add applet". if it's not called "character selector", it'll be called something guessable anyway.
[10:21] <ice9> the nvidia drivers hate my TV
[10:21] <arch_> I've got 2 dvd drives. on one of them I can play dvds, on the second not. hardware is good 2 go. any ideas ?
[10:21] <hydan> brb, i've got an idea.
[10:21] <unimatrix9> Brandon420 :  i cant see your system, but here is what you could do, take out the modem, you dont need it so dont use it..gives you place for other things too..
[10:21] <LjL> lauriexxx: not that i know of. define "low quality"
[10:21] <yann> I'm desperately hunting for the installation guide - could someone kindly give an URL ?
[10:21] <ice9> the only way I can see my x is if I am remote session via nx or vnc
[10:21] <Brandon420^> unimatrix9: I think you are right. Im going to go to walmart and buy a soundcard.
[10:21] <Brandon420^> thanks dude
[10:21] <unimatrix9> Brandon420 :  see if you have got an other sound card on the motherboard
[10:21] <Jowi> arch_, try with mplayer and specify the dvd-rom device
[10:21] <phil56> I need some one to help me with ssh tunneling
[10:22] <unimatrix9> if not
[10:22] <ice9> I wish ubuntu had support for hd tv's
[10:22] <hydan> that worked :)
[10:22] <ice9> bigger then 50 inches
[10:22] <unimatrix9> buy an cheap sound card \
[10:22] <LjL> yann: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:22] <lauriexxx> LjL: it is very blured, and not as clear as it yous'ed tobe.
[10:22] <pipatron> phil56: That's not an ubuntu problem I think?
[10:22] <godtvisken> Is Pidgin not in the repos yet?
[10:22] <ice9> !server
[10:22] <unimatrix9> Brandon420 :  what country do you live?
[10:22] <Jowi> arch_, that way you will know if there is a problem with the device name in other media players or not.
[10:22] <arch_> Jowi: I did tried. on one of the drives works OK, the second doesn't
[10:22] <PurpZeY> godtvisken: No, you have to compile it. It's not hard.
[10:22] <seamus7> Are session similar to the profile concept ... so I could save a multi-media session for instance in which Amarok, GIMP and Azureus would all start up upon log in??? How do I specificall create a new session and name it?
[10:22] <unimatrix9> sweex has some cheap sound card that work
[10:23] <yann> ljl: I'm specifically looking for the install guide reffered to by http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubiquity/trunk/annotate/?file_id=README-20051205083553-550dab3cb68ad622 - I thought it had to be an official one
[10:23] <Jowi> arch_, might be a faulty drive then.
[10:23] <LjL> lauriexxx: LCD screen?
[10:23] <arch_> Jowi: i tried "mplayer dvd://", and it doesn't work. the drive is good, works on windows and I can see the data on the dvd.
[10:24] <hydan> i clicked on "select session" while in gdm, and then selected "Gnome," and there was an option to make it my default desktop. problem solved :)
[10:24] <unimatrix9> Brandon420 :  for example this one http://www.com4.nl/shop.asp?action=prodinfo&cat=17&prodid=2372
[10:24] <Scunizi> phil56, anyone get back to you yet?
[10:24] <phil56> noo
[10:24] <lauriexxx> LJL: yes on a toshiba satelite L30 -!05
[10:24] <Corvinis-V> howcome when I do a lamp install it sticks at Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? after I typed Y and pressed ENTER
[10:24] <Jowi> arch_, did you specify the dvd device?
[10:24] <LjL> !documentation | yann, then this i guess
[10:25] <arch_> Jowi: just by  dvd://
[10:25] <Scunizi> phil56, putting a nick in the reply will make my computer beep and highlight message.  Easy 1st 4 char of nick then tab to complete
[10:25] <Jowi> arch_, like this "mplayer -dvd-device /dev/the_other_dvd_player dvd://"
[10:25] <LjL> lauriexxx: you need to use it in its native resolution, otherwise it'll appear blurry. run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg , and make sure the monitor's native resolution is selected. if you don't know what it is, check the manual
[10:25] <ubotu> yann, then this i guess: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[10:25] <Scunizi> phil56, so is this for inside a lan or from outside to inside?
[10:26] <unimatrix9> Brandon420 :  here a list off all supported cards https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[10:26] <yann> hm...
[10:26] <phil56> @scunizi ,I need help with the tunneling thing.I have utorrent's web service running unsecured.I need to ssh tunnel this thing.Someone at the forums told me to use the SSH -L option but I have a few more queries
[10:27] <clive> is there anyone using ubuntu 7.03 fiesty?
[10:27] <amigappc> im back
[10:27] <unimatrix9> hallo wouter , hoe gaat ie?
[10:27] <Scunizi> phil56, I'm not real good with ssh but ask away!
[10:27] <p1ls> hey how can i download a man page for special program?
[10:27] <seamus7> Anyone use Sessions to create multiple startup groups???
[10:27] <lwizardl> hi
[10:27] <phil56> Scunizi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=464233 The thread I started
[10:27] <Jowi> arch_, the reason you need to do this is because most programs use /dev/dvd as default, but the problem is that only one drive can be linked to /dev/dvd. so you must specify the device in mplayer.
[10:28] <Scunizi> phil56, k... I'll look at it.
[10:28] <lwizardl> anyone use beryl?
[10:28] <clive> anyone have problems with 7.03 when starting up?
[10:28] <unimatrix9> the road to freedom is no easy road...
[10:28] <unimatrix9> "P
[10:28] <p1ls> lwizard1, #beryl
[10:28] <amigappc> @pov im not registered
[10:28] <POVaddct> amigappc: then do it
[10:29] <komtd> lwizardl, i do
[10:29] <p1ls> hey how can i download a man page for special program?
[10:29] <mc44> clive: it's 7.04, and you need to be more specific about what problems :)
[10:29] <Eleaf> hello, my time keeps getting messed up.  I have it set to use a ntp server in the time/date preferences, but it doesn't actually do it?
[10:29] <Jowi> p1ls, the man page should be installed with the program already.
[10:29] <Eleaf> If I hit "sync once" in the time/date preferences, it goes to the correct date, but ubuntu never actually syncs automatically to the ntp time servers.
[10:29] <Scunizi> phil56, have you tried https:// etc instead of http ?
[10:29] <arch_> Jowi: I tried " mplayer -dvd-device /dev/hdd" and " mplayer -dvd-device /dev/hdd" and none works
[10:29] <p1ls> Jowi, so when i download a special program it prolly will download man for it?
[10:30] <Scunizi> phil56, https is for secure.. and tunnels I believe.
[10:30] <unimatrix9> is there an program for ubuntu like deepfreeze , to lock it down?
[10:30] <Eleaf> arch_, that's not where your dvd player would be
[10:30] <arch_> Eleaf: where then?
[10:30] <p1ls> anyone knows with what program i can install image of .bin?
[10:30] <Greythanis> test
[10:30] <mc44> failed
[10:30] <Eleaf> arch_, maybe /media/cdrom or /dev/cdrom
[10:30] <Jowi> p1ls, if you install the program with apt/synaptic/dpkg or compile it yourself then most of the time you will get the manpage as well. if you don't you should complain to the author of the program or see if there is something you missed.
[10:31] <SillyZ> Greeting, fresh new test install of ubuntu here and planning on dumping winhosed as quickly as possible, ... I have a 160g drive, and was debating on system (root / ) and /home allocation, any suggestions for system size?
[10:31] <phil56> Scunizi: Nope,it doesn't support https :(
[10:31] <BobbyBuntu> evening all. I have an issue where the lappy doesn't wake up from sleep properly. I get the login window, the trackpad works, but there's no keyboard input possible. Any ideas?
[10:31] <craig__> I'm using xubuntu and for some reason my "start" menu is gone.  I'm also stuck in 640X480 I think, and Settings -> Display Settings doesn't allow me to select from different display settings.
[10:31] <clive> when 7.04 starts it stalls. I have to reset it 2 or 3 times before it finally loads up.
[10:31] <_Codeman_> I'm having trouble with brctl, I created a bridge and a few minutes later my wifi connection stopped responding and the other computer (connected to the hub on the other end of eth0) still doesn't get internet so I restarted this computer (where I set up the bridge) and now the bridge is gone and still no net on the other computer
[10:31] <Scunizi> phil56, that would have been too easy..I'll do some reading.. brb
[10:31] <luca_> ciao
[10:31] <Elfboy> !ipconfig
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <Elfboy> !ip
[10:32] <SillyZ> !ifconfig
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <arch_> Eleaf: I tried them as well "mplayer -dvd-device /media/cdrom0/", no luck. and the drive is mounted as /media/cdrom0
[10:32] <clive> mc44 did you get my message
[10:32] <Eleaf> weird, does anybody know how to get the time to automatically set during boot in ubuntu?
[10:32] <unimatrix9> arch_ whats on the dvd?
[10:32] <Eleaf> I have it set to use the ntp time servers, but it doesn't ever.
[10:32] <Jowi> arch_, I see the problem. when playing a DVD you must NOT mount it first!
[10:33] <mc44> clive: where does it "stall"?
[10:33] <Eleaf> it's about 13 hours off
[10:33] <p1ls> anyone knows with what program i can install image of .bin?
[10:33] <unimatrix9> arch_ does it auto mount? and show files
[10:33] <NET||abuse> Hi all, i'm plugging in certain usb drives and not getting write permission on my desktop user,
[10:33] <SillyZ> Eleaf use an ntp server
[10:33] <Eleaf> Jowi, dvd's are mounted automatically
[10:33] <Scunizi> phil56, I think I understand what the poster was trying to get at on the forums.  Let's go private for longer posts.
[10:33] <mc44> p1ls: what are you trying to install?
[10:33] <clive> right at the beginning after the grub screen.
[10:33] <Jowi> Eleaf, only in gnome :)
[10:33] <LjL> Eleaf: is ntpd installed?
[10:33] <p1ls> trying to burn a cd with .bin tyoe
[10:33] <Eleaf> SillyZ, I do, ubuntu doesn't listen to it.  I have it set to use a ntp server.
[10:33] <arch_> Jowi: but it's mounted as soon as I put the dvd in the drive. I'll give it another try.
[10:33] <LjL> Eleaf, if it's off by that much, it won't get adjusted by NTP anyway
[10:33] <mc44> !burn | p1ls
[10:33] <ubotu> p1ls: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[10:33] <Eleaf> LjL, couldn't find package
[10:34] <Jowi> arch_, umount the dvd. then try again. (or turn off automatic mounts in gnome)
[10:34] <craig__> I'm using xubuntu and for some reason my "start" menu is gone.  I'm also stuck in 640X480 I think, and Settings -> Display Settings doesn't allow me to select from different display settings.
[10:34] <Scunizi> phil56, I've got a channel open...
[10:34] <Eleaf> LjL, if I hit sync now, in the gnome time preferences, it goes to the correct time.
[10:34] <unimatrix9> arch_  just go in the files and find the .vob ( if its an movie )
[10:34] <lwizardl> how do i enable the beryl plugin?
[10:34] <craig__> I'm more worried about the 640x480 bit
[10:34] <Eleaf> But after I sleep or restart, the time gets messed up again LjL
[10:34] <lwizardl> on 7.04
[10:34] <LjL> Eleaf: adjusting the clock too abruptly can have weird consequences, so NTP adjusts it in very small increments. it will take days before it matches up, if it starts with a 13 hours mismatch =)
[10:34] <thirdy> is there a system restore like in xp?
[10:34] <mobbol> does anyone has an idea how to make all these buttons and text smaller on my ubuntu? I switched from windows.. same resoltution as now (1280x1024), but it is all bigger and there is almost no space on my screen ;)
[10:34] <arch_> Jowi: I can only eject it not unmount (at least from nautilus)
[10:34] <unimatrix9> thirdy : alas not
[10:34] <thirdy> none?
[10:35] <arch_> unimatrix9: it is a movie, Tarantino's 4 rooms :)
[10:35] <Elfboy> ok how do i make it show me my ip abby
[10:35] <Eleaf> LjL, lol.  But the time seems to be moving at normal speed, it's at 8:34 am right now, it should be at 2:34
[10:35] <thirdy> I messed up my xfce
[10:35] <SillyZ> elfboy ifconfig
[10:35] <Elfboy> thanbk you
[10:35] <SillyZ> np
[10:35] <Eleaf> LjL, can't I have it sync every time the computer starts and every minute or something?
[10:35] <thirdy> unimatrix9, how can I fix my desktop?
[10:35] <LjL> Eleaf, you won't notice the "speedup".
[10:35] <xplode_me> Hi guys
[10:35] <teamwork_> what module should I blacklist to turn off cpu frequency scaling?
[10:35] <Eleaf> LjL, it will just randomly go to the correct time?
[10:35] <unimatrix9> arch_ find the biggest vob file and try to play it, with mplayer
[10:35] <clive> how do you format your drive from scratch
[10:36] <LjL> Eleaf, not if it desyncs that badly. you need to find out why it does
[10:36] <unimatrix9> or so
[10:36] <mobbol> Teamwork : amd or intel?
[10:36] <LjL> Eleaf: not randomly...
[10:36] <Eleaf> LjL, the cmos battery is bad?
[10:36] <xplode_me> anyone having problems with open office impress on feisty? Everytime I open it, OOo crashes,  and i can't really use it at all :(
[10:36] <Elfboy> ok will that work for wierless too
[10:36] <NET||abuse> ahhh, how do i allow read/write on an ntfs formatted usb drive?
[10:36] <Eleaf> LjL, there has to be a way to sync the time and not have to wait for hours for it to do it automatically.  It works fine if I do "sync now".
[10:36] <LjL> Eleaf: could be, but then you'd notice the BIOS getting reset at each boot
[10:36] <NET||abuse> can anyone help me?
[10:36] <Eleaf> LjL, it doesn't really have a bios (iBook)
[10:37] <mobbol> NET||abuse: install ntfs tools, and then mount -t nfts /dev/your-device -o rw
[10:37] <Scunizi> phil56, you still around?
[10:37] <Jowi> !ntfs | NET||abuse
[10:37] <Elfboy> SillyZ, : thanks but im wierles and it dont show it
[10:37] <aricz> Hello, can anyone help me getting my CD-ROM working?
[10:37] <ubotu> NET||abuse: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:37] <LjL> Eleaf, you could hack something together, for sure, but as i said, NTP doesn't update the time at once because it can have unwanted consequences. i don't assume i know better than NTP ;)
[10:37] <clive> mc44 how can you wipe your drive with a fresh partition?
[10:37] <bayziders> How do you set an image as your terminal background?
[10:37] <Eleaf> LjL, but ntp just doesn't work automatically. ntpd doesn't exist, are you thinking of ntpdate package?
[10:37] <Elfboy> use parted
[10:37] <LjL> Eleaf: if you know that your battery is dead, alright, but i'd try making sure that's the cause first
[10:38] <_Codeman_> Can anyone help my with brctl?
[10:38] <LjL> Eleaf: no, i was thinking of "ntp" i think
[10:38] <Eleaf> LjL, I just want it to sync automatically, instead of me having to manually ntp sync
[10:38] <NET||abuse> Jowi, mobbol , thank you..
[10:38] <Elfboy> i think parted is better
[10:38] <BobbyBuntu> evening all. I have an issue where the lappy doesn't wake up from sleep properly. I get the login window, the trackpad works, but there's no keyboard input possible. Any ideas?
[10:38] <mc44> clive: you can use gparted
[10:38] <Eleaf> I thought that was the purpose of ntp, to stay synced with a network time server ;)
[10:38] <jul_lebou> whats the best irc client for linux?
[10:38] <bayziders> gaim
[10:38] <Eleaf> LjL, yes, ntp is installed
[10:38] <_Codeman_> xchat
[10:38] <allan__> hello
[10:38] <mc44> jul_lebou: depends who you ask
[10:38] <EADG> irssi :)
[10:38] <Corvinis-V> I'm using konversation....
[10:39] <allan__> can someone help me install cspace
[10:39] <allan__> please
[10:39] <allan__> id really appreciate it
[10:39] <LjL> Eleaf, its purpose is not to compensate for a hardware clock that desyncs by 13 hours at a time. its purpose is just to adjust for small time changes.
[10:39] <Greythanis> has anyone tested this parallel desktop thing?
[10:39] <Corvinis-V> it's pretty nice for people that are used to mirc
[10:39] <LjL> !enter | allan__
[10:39] <ubotu> allan__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:39] <Eleaf> LjL, this is the error I get from 'ntpdate' :  4 Jun 08:38:55 ntpdate[7012] : no servers can be used, exiting
[10:39] <jul_lebou> konversation is good yeah, but does it crashes sometimes with you too?
[10:39] <phil56> Scunizi: I sent you a message!Did you get that?
[10:39] <clive> is that something that can fit on a floppy?
[10:39] <LjL> Eleaf: that is normal if you don't specify any servers.
[10:39] <rescon> i just used the synaptic package manager to download bitchx.. now how do i go about running bitchx?
[10:39] <allan__> ok
[10:39] <Eleaf> LjL, it can't just sync up to the denver time zone and be done with it?
[10:39] <allan__> can anybody help me
[10:39] <Scunizi> phil56, nope.. are u using xchat?
[10:39] <allan__> ?
[10:39] <Eleaf> I don't even know if the iBook has a hardware clock LjL  ;)
[10:39] <Greythanis> has anyone tested this parallel desktop thing?
[10:40] <bayziders> How do you set a image as your terminal back ground?
[10:40] <phil56> Scunizi:  yes
[10:40] <incorperated> ?
[10:40] <aricz> rescon : Uhm.. 'BitchX' ?
[10:40] <mc44> clive: if you have an ubuntu cd you can use that
[10:40] <rescon> yes
[10:40] <LjL> Eleaf: of course it does, every computer made after 1990 or so has one...
[10:40] <jul_lebou> konversation is good yeah, but does it crashes sometimes with you too?
[10:40] <Scunizi> phil56, look on the left of the screen and you should see my nick under the "Freenode" label.. click that
[10:40] <incorperated> can anybody help me or not
[10:40] <clive> do i have to run it from boot or from X
[10:40] <unimatrix9> allan_ are you   sure that cspace runs on ubuntu?
[10:40] <_Codeman_> Any bridge-utils gurus?
[10:40] <LjL> Eleaf: i assume you aren't dual booting?
[10:41] <incorperated> yes
[10:41] <incorperated> do you know what cspace is?
[10:41] <Eleaf> LjL, no dual boot
[10:41] <POVaddct> !wifi
[10:41] <LjL> incorperated: no
[10:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:41] <incorperated> hold on
[10:41] <Scunizi> phil56, or in the message box where this is showing up right mouse click on my nick and choose "Open Dialogue"
[10:41] <arch_> Jowi: unfortunatelly, trying to play the dvd while not unmounted does not work
[10:41] <phil56> Scunizi: You mean the yellow colored one?I clicked it and sent you my page url.Did you get that?
[10:41] <incorperated> http://cspace.in/~dan/
[10:42] <incorperated> there you go
[10:42] <incorperated> check it out
[10:42] <rescon> ANYONE?
[10:42] <arch_> Jowi: no matter the drive it is in. so I guess I mess up somewhere
[10:42] <Scunizi> phil56, nope..
[10:42] <rescon> oops sorry
[10:42] <incorperated> i need help with the dependencies
[10:42] <Eleaf> LjL, it just doesn't seem to sync with the ntp servers.
[10:42] <incorperated> pretty much the whole thing
[10:42] <Eleaf> LjL, if I sync once, the computer will be completely fine as long as it isn't restarted
[10:42] <Eleaf> the date then stays in sync
[10:43] <Jowi> arch_, ok, so you can not play a DVD from any drive? I thought it was only from one of them? did you install libdvdcss?
[10:43] <LjL> Eleaf: sure, since you have ntpd running.
[10:43] <Eleaf> it just seems like the ntp gnome preference thing doesn't work or something..
[10:43] <mc44> rescon: alt-f2, bitchx
[10:43] <POVaddct> !wireless
[10:43] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:43] <Eleaf> why can't it just sync that one time?
[10:43] <oooc> im running ubuntu 6.10 live cd on laptop. ive just done a fresh install of 7.04 on computer. i think my wifi usb was detected. ive found my network, and the stick blinks but i cant connect. what should i try?
[10:43] <kitche> Eleaf: your bios time might be wrong I had to adjust mine so it was correct
[10:44] <Eleaf> kitche, I don't have a bios
[10:44] <phil56> Scunizi: are you on jabber or something?
[10:44] <aricz> Hullu, how do I get my CD-ROM working? I have 1.storage_model_TSSTcorpCD/DVDW_TS_H552B and 2.storage_model_SONY_CD_RW_CRX160E .. now, the DVDROM has always worked out, but, for some reason it doesn't want to OPEN anymore (hw-probs).. so tralala, I have to use my CD-ROM instead, which I've never been able to access. Question is, how do I get access to my CD-ROM ? Help would be appreciated.. of course :|
[10:44] <LjL> Eleaf: this is a hack: edit /etc/rc.local, and before the "exit 0" line, add  ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[10:44] <eetfuk> my laptop has Unichrome graphics, and im using OpenChrome,but i cant get them to work, glxinfo return "X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)"
[10:44] <BobbyBuntu> oooc: an encryption issue? try reverting to open and see if it works... then build from there
[10:44] <Eleaf> LjL, I selected another time server and the time is correct now.
[10:44] <teamwork> how can I keep ubuntu from trying to bring up eth0 at boot?
[10:44] <Scunizi> phil56, nope xchat..anyway here's what I typed....By initiating ssh -L 62402:localhost:62402 host (that's the address or ip of the host) then going to your browser and entering localhost:62402 (enter) in the address line, it loops the request through ssh to the address/ip identified.
[10:44] <lauriexxx> LjL: i have tried what you recommended, but the screen is still really blured,  am still contemplating with a fresh install, do you have any other recomendations?
[10:44] <arch_> Jowi: using the command "mplayer -dvd-device /media/cdrom0/" or cdrom1 I can't play no matter which drive I use. from the gui I can play dvds only from one drive, never from the second one.
[10:44] <unimatrix9> going to get some sleep, bye everyone..
[10:44] <Eleaf> LjL, it's funny because whenever i change the time, the screen goes black and all audio stops ;p
[10:44] <oooc> nope. i reseted router. its the default network name.
[10:45] <kitche> Eleaf: what is this on if you don't have a bios?
[10:45] <hjmills> does anybody know where the azureus icons are located - I want to change them to gnomish ones
[10:45] <LjL> Eleaf: and remove ntpd from init.d, as it will stop ntpdate from running
[10:45] <Jowi> eetfuk, depends on the chipset. the "via" driver should have dri enabled (for via chipsets that is)
[10:45] <AmirB> hey, how do I uninstall microsoft office 2003 that I installed using Crossover Linux?
[10:45] <LjL> Eleaf: funny? i did mention "unwanted consequences" didn't i
[10:45] <Eleaf> kitche, it's a mac
[10:45] <LjL> lauriexxx: no
[10:45] <Eleaf> LjL, no, it does that whenever I use the gnome preferences
[10:45] <phil56> Scunizi: I got that message.Strange that you didn't get  mine
[10:45] <Jowi> arch_, -dvd-device need the device name, not the mount path
[10:45] <unimatrix9> bye lorenzo
[10:45] <BobbyBuntu> oooc: sorry, I'm a bit new to this too :/
[10:45] <Eleaf> LjL, it's always done that
[10:45] <unimatrix9> :P
[10:45] <oooc> wmaster0 and wlan0 ? why are there 2
[10:45] <oooc> ok
[10:45] <LjL> :P
[10:45] <_Codeman_> Can anyone please tell my why brctl would kill my wifi connection?
[10:45] <arch_> Jowi: all required software is installed, I just finished watching the dvd and wanted to track down the issue.
[10:45] <Central> Hello everyone, just installed ubuntu.. uhm can anyone help me out, getting some stuff started?
[10:46] <Scunizi> phil56, yep.. ever try irssi?  pretty cool terminal irc prog.
[10:46] <hjmills> Central, sure - what with?
[10:46] <oooc> in the network properties i have wlan0 and wmaster0. this isnt in 6.10
[10:46] <Eleaf> LjL, why is it not default to just keep the time in sync with the server and not allow the clock to get out of sync?
[10:46] <mc44> Central: like what? :)
[10:46] <eetfuk> Jowi, i think my card is VN800, not sure about the chipset thought
[10:46] <BobbyBuntu> Central: what do you need?
[10:46] <kitche> Eleaf: just wondering, well a mac should have a bios, since computers need a bios to even run
[10:46] <Eleaf> LjL, it seems like the whole purpose of ntp, to keep the clocks exactly the same
[10:46] <AmirB> how do I uninstall microsoft office 2003 that I installed using Crossover Linux?
[10:46] <Eleaf> kitche, not really..  you never see the bios ;p
[10:46] <hjmills> Central, This is great: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[10:46] <LjL> Eleaf: i think i told you already...
[10:47] <Eleaf> LjL, you said it keeps it updated kinda slowly, or something like that:  which doesn't make much sense.
[10:47] <Jowi> arch_, again an example "mplayer -dvd-device /dev/hda dvd://" or "mplayer -dvd-device /dev/dvd dvd://" (if those examples does not work then I do not know what's up)
[10:47] <LjL> Eleaf: the point of NTP is that, *given a working hardware clock*, it will keep it from drifting away (since no clock is quite perfect, especially PC clocks). it's *not* intended to adjust for shift of hours.
[10:47] <oooc> since the default thingy in ubuntu isnt working for me. is there another way i can get my wifi to connect?
[10:48] <Central> hjmills: I send you some private messages
[10:48] <lauriexxx> Central: what do you want to know? what did you choose?
[10:48] <oooc> ive heard of ndiswrapper and windows wireless drivers. how can i get/enable these
[10:48] <hjmills> Central, sure
[10:48] <jart> i just apt-get'd mysql-server on edgy, started using it, created a test table, and now i'm inserting data... the inserts are going about 20 a second and mysql is not using up any cpu.  is there some sort of throttling set up in ubuntu for mysql?
[10:48] <Spec> So, does anyone here know of a virtual server hosting provider that hosts Ubuntu virtual servers that are nice and on the cheap-side?
[10:48] <LjL> Eleaf: it makes a lot of sense, since changing the time by something that isn't just a couple of seconds can have UNWANTED CONSEQUENCES, such as services crashing and programs starting to misbehave.
[10:48] <Central> well U'm I installed it on a computer that was running XP
[10:48] <Ropechoborra> Is there a way i can connect trough internet to a ssh server that is in a LAN
[10:48] <lauriexxx> oooc: i think through synaptic, but beware, the road is long a weary
[10:48] <phil56> Scunizi: my UI url is at http://<IP_ADDRESS>:62402/gui/   type guest for username and leave the password blank
[10:48] <rollerskatejamms> How can I disable avahi?
[10:48] <AmirB> how do I uninstall microsoft office 2003 that I installed using Crossover Linux?
[10:48] <LjL> Eleaf: any modern Unix system, and all its NTP accessories, assume that your hardware clock *works*
[10:48] <Central> SO I already had 3 partitions and installed it on another then windows
[10:48] <Eleaf> LjL, then it sould be synced at boot, not sure how it would slowly sync clocks
[10:49] <Central> it's working fine
[10:49] <oooc> its really strange hoe ubuntu recognises my card but wont connect? there is no password for the network im trying to connect to
[10:49] <Eleaf> the hardware clock works fine once the time is synced LjL
[10:49] <Central> but I have 2 screens and I'd like em to work :P
[10:49] <lauriexxx> oooc: what process do you have?
[10:49] <hjmills> Central, well the partitions are fine if both work
[10:49] <eetfuk> Jowi, thanks it worked
[10:49] <NeuraL> ubuntu rocks!
[10:49] <hjmills> Central, what graphics card do you have?
[10:49] <arch_> Jowi: wow, the following command works: "mplayer -dvd-device /dev/hdc dvd://" thanks.
[10:49] <oooc> sorry what do u mean?
[10:49] <rollerskatejamms> NeuraL: yes it does!
[10:49] <LjL> Eleaf, we're running in circles. your hardware clock obviously does NOT work fine since it's off by 13 hours after booting.
[10:49] <oooc> im fairly new to ubuntu
[10:49] <NeuraL> ;-)
[10:49] <Jowi> eetfuk, you're welcome
[10:49] <Eleaf> thanks LjL , I'll see if it syncs now.
[10:49] <Central> How do I check? It's a Gforce 7900GS or something.
[10:50] <LjL> Eleaf: *after* the system has booted, the hardware clock is *not* used anymore
[10:50] <Jowi> arch_, you're welcome too :)
[10:50] <ryanakca> is there a way to make certain apps take just a certain amount of system ressources?
[10:50] <hjmills> Central, then its Nvidia?
[10:50] <LjL> Eleaf: when the system is running, Linux keeps a *software* clock.
[10:50] <EADG> Ropechoborra: You will have to port forward on the lan's router then connect with ssh i.p.addy -p 1234
[10:50] <oooc> i dont understand what is process
[10:50] <Central> yeah
[10:50] <lauriexxx> oooc: what processor do you have, or which wireless card do you have?
[10:50] <Eleaf> LjL, I see.  I think it also gets out of sync when the computer is sleeping.
[10:50] <Spec> Central: lspci -v |grep -i force
[10:50] <Jowi> Central, didn't you just order from shipit yesterday!? :D
[10:50] <hjmills> Central, ok, if you go to System>Preferences>Desktop Effects
[10:50] <kitche> LjL: my bios clock was setup to GMT time lol couldn't fiugre it out hwy my time was always wrong in linux until I looked at my bios
[10:50] <Central> yes I did, but my friend gave me a CD
[10:50] <oooc> ok. i have a intel p4 3.ghz and a belkin g usb wifi
[10:50] <NeuraL> I have just attached my bluetooth dongle and it works perfectly
[10:50] <LjL> kitche: but that only goes if you dual boot.
[10:50] <aricz> Hullu, how do I get my CD-ROM working? I have 1.storage_model_TSSTcorpCD/DVDW_TS_H552B and 2.storage_model_SONY_CD_RW_CRX160E.. both are symlinked (?) in /etc/fstab .. but there's nothing in /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1 .. can anyone please help me?
[10:51] <hjmills> Central, it should say something about needing to install the nvidia driver - say yes and give it your password
[10:51] <Ropechoborra> EADG Thanks, if i dont have access to the router, is there other way ?
[10:51] <Scunizi> phil56, I got it.. So you're hosting and would like someone else to come in securely?
[10:51] <lauriexxx> oooc: have you tried downloading wifi-radar??
[10:51] <phil56> yes
[10:51] <oooc> im not sure what model my belkin stick is. also my processor is like a duo or something.
[10:51] <phil56> me actually
[10:51] <Central> It did not ask a password
[10:51] <kitche> LjL: well I fixed my bios clock and now my time reads correctly all the time if I use a installed system
[10:51] <Central> but it sais I need to reboot
[10:51] <oooc> ill try it. thanks
[10:51] <phil56> Scunizi: since the pasword is sent unsecure
[10:51] <hjmills> Central, after installing the driver?
[10:51] <lauriexxx> oooc: do mean duo core?
[10:52] <sonictwin> when i put a blank cd in and click make audio cd, nothing happens
[10:52] <Central> it said it installed it, but need to reboot to enable it
[10:52] <EADG> Ropechoborra: Not that I'm aware of, but I'm somewhat of a newb :/
[10:52] <phil56> Scunizi: I want this to happen over ssh.simple idea
[10:52] <Scunizi> Is the html for the page run on apache?  (probably a dumb question)
[10:52] <Central> should I reboot now? and come back?
[10:52] <LjL> kitche: there's nothing wrong with the BIOS clock being set to GMT, unless one dual boots with systems that want it set to something else. actually, i think it's the default.
[10:52] <oooc> no its a P4 3.Ghz BUT ITS DOWN TWICE
[10:52] <sonictwin> whats the name of the audio burning app?
[10:52] <oooc> didnt mean to shout
[10:52] <oooc> sorry
[10:52] <Scunizi> phil56, see my post right after your last one.
[10:52] <hjmills> Central, yes, thats fine, go ahead and reboot then come back here - you dont really need desktop effects but it makes the driver installation easier
[10:52] <funkmaster> hi guys, how can i find out which /dev/... my ltp1 port is on?
[10:52] <Central> ok brb
[10:52] <AmirB> how do I uninstall microsoft office 2003 that I installed using Crossover Linux?
[10:53] <lauriexxx> oooc: ok, no need to worry, try sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[10:53] <phil56> Scunizi: I don't know,utorrent has it's own server actually
[10:53] <lauriexxx> oooc: ndiswrapper is for experienced users i think
[10:53] <arch_> Jowi: now I can play from command line, but the mplayer gui still fails to open the dvd.
[10:53] <sonictwin> i want to burn an audio cd -- what is the name of this app?
[10:54] <phil56> Scunizi: The poster in the thread said that the command has to be exectued on your side as you are the client.So can you try it now if you are free :)
[10:54] <Jowi> arch_, yes. you need to set the correct device in the mplayer gui preferences (I don't know where since I don't use it)
[10:54] <lauriexxx> sonictwin: there are various apps, i like k3b, or gravman
[10:54] <HET2> what's the recommended way to connect to a wpa-psk encrypted wireless network with the most recent ubuntu?
[10:54] <Scunizi> phil.. sure.. hang on.
[10:54] <arch_> Jowi: ok, I'll look there. thanks again
[10:55] <oooc> ok. im going to download wifi radar. put it onto a cd and tranfer it to the computer. thanks
[10:56] <oooc> i cant use sudo apt-get cus im not connected : )
[10:56] <lauriexxx> oooc: there is also kiwi-radar
[10:56] <Central> Hello
[10:56] <hjmills> Central, all ok?
[10:56] <Central> uhm driver seems to be installed
[10:56] <Central> now it did ask me a password
[10:56] <oooc> ok thanks. ill try wifi first. cheers
[10:56] <hjmills> Central, good - now how do you want your two monitors? do you want to clone your desktop or extend your desktop?
[10:57] <Central> extend!!
[10:57] <Central> :D
[10:57] <hjmills> Central, thought so - the logical choice
[10:57] <Scunizi> phil56, nope can't get in
[10:57] <Central> else, what's the point? :)
[10:57] <phil56> Scunizi: does it ask for a pass?
[10:58] <Lilacor> Is there a way to use a .swf file as my background?
[10:58] <Scunizi> phil56, I only get "Unable to connect"
[10:58] <Jowi> Central, to watch a movie in the kitchen :P
[10:58] <Central> jowi, my cables would not be long enough :)
[10:58] <Jowi> Lilacor, no
[10:58] <estoves> Is it possible to get TV-out with the opensource radeon driver?
[10:58] <hjmills> Central, when your bed and PC are at the wrong angle to view films
[10:58] <lauriexxx> HAS anybody got a soluion for reinstalling x server? i know i asked this before, but maybe there
[10:59] <sonictwin> lauriexxx: i'm looking for the default app that comes with ubuntu
[10:59] <sonictwin> (for burning audio discs)
[10:59] <ftp3> hello.. i am new to ubuntu.. i have used debian.. i like the "joe" editor.. and on debian, i just type "apt-get install joe" and it installs it.. it seems that on ubuntu it cannot find "joe"... is there somethign i am doing wrong?
[10:59] <hjmills> Central, ok, now press Alt and F2 to open the run dialog box similar to windows and type in "nvidia-settings"
[10:59] <phil56> Scunizi: aah ,Looks like I have to ask the guys at utorrent .Thanks for your time though.I will ping you back if I need help or if I get the answer!
[10:59] <Central> well I want the extended, to view more stuff, can you help me out?
[10:59] <jrib> lauriexxx: why do you need to reinstall it?
[10:59] <lauriexxx> sonictwin: there is serpentine in that case
[10:59] <hjmills> sonictwin, serpentine?
[11:00] <kitche> phil56: well they might not help you if you run utorrent in wine
[11:00] <Scunizi> phil56, np,  you might want to look at what I just found.. http://www.csociety.org/~sigos/projects/ssh/forwarding/
[11:00] <sonictwin> sweet, thanks guys
[11:00] <sonictwin> i didnt have that installed for some reason
[11:00] <Scunizi> phil56, see ya
[11:00] <lauriexxx> jrib: because i did that fatal comand of dpkg reconfigure x server, what a dunce i am thinking i could do it...
[11:00] <jasonpitzlwaters> Hello, I have a question, I'm installing Ubuntu Feisty on a Toshiba Satellite M35 and after a successful install it hangs on GRUB when booting. Is there any place I can find out how to fix this?  I have been looking through the forums to no avail
[11:01] <phil56> Scunizi: Those guys actually say it runs on wine! No problem on that front though.See you soon
[11:01] <jrib> lauriexxx: if you did that command then you have a backup in /etc/X11 or just choose appropriate settings
[11:01] <hjmills> jasonpitzlwaters, check the linux on laptops site to see if anybody knows anything about that laptop
[11:01] <hjmills> Central, ok, now press Alt and F2 to open the run dialog box similar to windows and type in "nvidia-settings"
[11:01] <hjmills> Central, when you do that does a config gui appear?
[11:01] <Central> can't find that file
[11:01] <Ropechoborra> Is there some Distro that can be runned under Windows ? So i can have it in my pendrive and going with my linux arround
[11:01] <LePirlouit> hello,
[11:01] <Central> am I typing it wrong?
[11:01] <LePirlouit> have anyone an ID to resolf my proble :
[11:02] <Central> "nvidea-settings"
[11:02] <LePirlouit> [ 3157.848000]  parport0: cannot grant exclusive access for device ks0108
[11:02] <LePirlouit> [ 3157.848000]  ks0108: ERROR: parport didn't register new device
[11:02] <lauriexxx> jrib: i concur, but i don't actualy know what my appropriate settings should be, if i did, i would not have broken it in the first place...
[11:02] <kitche> Ropechoborra: yes they ar kinda out of date though go to www.linux.org and do a search
[11:02] <eetfuk> beryl: Support for non power of two textures missing
[11:02] <Central> ow yes I was
[11:02] <LePirlouit> google is not my friend
[11:02] <LjL> jrib: it appears from an ls -l that he doesn't have a backup, for some reason.
[11:02] <eetfuk> how fix?
[11:02] <LePirlouit> and the man is very poor
[11:02] <Ropechoborra> kitche ok
[11:02] <Ropechoborra> ty
[11:02] <Central> yes I have the config box now for nvidia
[11:02] <melon> new problem.. wifi thingie - the usb network adapter thingie finally works how i need it to.. except.. it cuts out after about an hour 'n the only way i can reconnect is if i reset the entire pc.. any ideas on what i can do? on dapper.. adapter is belkin..
[11:02] <mage__> Ropechoborra: try running something in an emulator?
[11:02] <hjmills> Central
[11:02] <craigbass1976> Is there a runlevel in dapper by default that is multiuser text, like init3 in RH type linuxes?
[11:03] <Central> yes?
[11:03] <mage__> melon: wireless b?
[11:03] <kitche> Ropechoborra: you vcould use qemu if you wish but need admin writes to use it on a pendrive
[11:03] <melon> g
[11:03] <LjL> ryanakca: /etc/security/limits.conf
[11:03] <jrib> lauriexxx: well pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tell us what video card you have
[11:03] <hjmills> Central, can you see two monitors under X Server Display Configuration?
[11:03] <lauriexxx> jrib: i seem to be getting the same anwseallr,that i need to do afresh inst
[11:03] <Central> I have the nvidia config box
[11:03] <mage__> ah, I was going to say the usb wireless b hardware blows
[11:03] <Jowi> eetfuk, I doubt beryl will work with the via chipset since it only provides very simple 3d accelleration. only intel, ati and nvidia supported I think.
[11:03] <melon> or b - lol.. let me look
[11:03] <Central> yes Ido
[11:03] <craigbass1976> I want to boot without running X
[11:03] <hjmills> Central, ok, bear with me while I check something
[11:03] <ryanakca> LjL: thanks
[11:03] <lauriexxx> jrjb: i have a cheap ati card
[11:04] <Central> ok, I'll go get a soda you want 1?
[11:04] <hjmills> Central, lol
[11:04] <mage__> craigbass1976: so dont run X ;) I think its /etc/init.d/gdm or kdm
[11:04] <eetfuk> i had Compiz running, and im not looking for anything heavy, cube desktop and the "expose alike" funtion
[11:04] <_Codeman_> Can someone please help me with bridging?
[11:04] <craigbass1976> mage__, I'm running xubuntu, is that xdm?
[11:05] <mage__> well, you'll only have one *dm
[11:05] <melon> it's 802.11g
[11:05] <mage__> some command like update-rc.d remove xdm
[11:05] <LjL> _Codeman_, i've struggled with it myself for quite a while, and i'm not entirely sure now how i eventually managed to get it working. i can give you the commands i use i suppose, if they might give you a hint
[11:06] <hjmills> Central, ok - you got the soda?
[11:06] <mage__> melon: usually with issues like that the solution is upgrade drivers for it, and in linux that means upgrade your kernel
[11:06] <Central> yes
[11:06] <hjmills> Central, then away we go
[11:06] <Central> you didn't want 1 right?
[11:06] <Zapt> us
[11:06] <Zapt> servus
[11:06] <Zapt> so jetzt
[11:06] <lauriexxx> jrib: i ve tried that, but it says that the file is not found
[11:06] <mage__> _Codeman_: I know how to bridge interfaces manually, no idea on using the ubuntu init system
[11:06] <melon> pretend i have no idea what i'm doing.. just pretend.. update kernel?
[11:06] <melon> lol
[11:06] <hjmills> Central, if you click the save config file button in the bottom right corner and save it to your home folder as xorg.conf
[11:06] <jrib> lauriexxx: tried what?
[11:07] <Lilacor> melon goggles
[11:07] <lauriexxx> jrjb: pastebin etc
[11:07] <mc44> melon: what driver is the card using?
[11:07] <hjmills> Central, thats the save-your-ass backup
[11:07] <Lilacor> melons as big as goggles
[11:07] <mage__> melon: uname -r in a terminal
[11:07] <Central> ok done
[11:07] <hjmills> Central, now we can play as much as we like
[11:07] <Central> hope I'll be able to find it if I need it :S
[11:07] <jrib> lauriexxx: you aren't really being specific which makes it hard to help you.  Does /var/log/Xorg.0.log exist on your system?
[11:07] <Central> I'm sure I will
[11:08] <ramboza_> hello, i'm sorry - how to add the "Run command" item to the Main Menu in 7.0.4? I can only add it to the panel...
[11:08] <simmerz> im looking at upgrading my dapper server to edgy. it is running as a uml guest (that's how i get my hosting). should I do a aptitude upgrade or a dist-upgrade?
[11:08] <hjmills> Central, ok - we will need root privilages for this so we need to reopen the nvidia settings program
[11:08] <_Codeman_> mage__: How do I do it manually?
[11:08] <LjL> _Codeman_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24128/
[11:08] <melon> 2.6.15-27-386
[11:08] <lauriexxx> jrib:no, sorry,it says file does not exist
[11:08] <gumpish> soooo.... what would happen the the swap partition were suddenly removed from a running system?
[11:08] <mon^rch> hi peeps, can I change the name of a device? ie: I want to make eth2 become eth1...
[11:08] <hjmills> Central, just close it and then press Alt + F2 again and this time enter "gksudo nvidia-settings"
[11:08] <Central> I have it open
[11:08] <jrib> lauriexxx: how about /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[11:08] <Central> ok
[11:08] <hjmills> Central, gksudo will make it run as root so you will need to put in the password
[11:09] <funkmaster> i use ubuntu feisty and it uses init.d i have never used my printerport but now i have a relay card attached to it, but in order to be able to control it i need to specify where it is, first i thought it would be /dev/ttyS0 but i think that is worng, so now i can't find it.. can someone help me please ?
[11:09] <Central> It asked no password
[11:09] <lauriexxx> jrib:yes if i run sudo nano, i can see the file
[11:09] <Central> but I'm in the config box
[11:09] <mage__> uh
[11:09] <hjmills> Central, in the run box?
[11:09] <AmirB> how do I uninstall microsoft office 2003 that I installed using Crossover Linux?
[11:10] <Central> in the nvidia config box
[11:10] <mon^rch> hi peeps, can I change the name of a device? ie: I want to make eth2 become eth1...
[11:10] <mage__> LjL: why are you making separate iptables rules for each computer for NAT?
[11:10] <jrib> lauriexxx: ok, then try to start X again.  After it fails you will have a /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:10] <Central> I used gksudo nvidia-settings
[11:10] <Central> in the run box
[11:10] <_Codeman_> THANKS! LjL!
[11:10] <hjmills> Central, ok, go in to X Server Display Configuration and click on the second monitor
[11:10] <Central> ok
[11:10] <adcurti1> How do i get this this drive to be recognized as a type 4 (WORM) drive instead of no deivce?
[11:10] <adcurti1> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00
[11:10] <adcurti1>   Vendor: SONY     Model: CDW-900E         Rev: 1.14
[11:10] <adcurti1>   Type:   No Device                        ANSI SCSI revision: 01
[11:11] <hjmills> !pastebin | adcurti1
[11:11] <ubotu> adcurti1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:11] <ramboza_> hello, i'm sorry - how to add the "Run command" item to the Main Menu in 7.0.4? I can only add it to the panel...
[11:11] <hjmills> Central, now click the configure  button which should bring up a dialog box with three options
[11:11] <LjL> mage__: probably because i have no clue... well, actually i guess it's because those commands used to have an "eth#" for each card, before i set up bridging. what would the proper way be?
[11:12] <vecina> I installed libglut and freeglut, libqt3 and the devs, but g++ says these .so files cant be found. whats up? :/
[11:12] <Jowi> craigbass1976, I guess (I haven't tried with an upstart system) you can remove /etc/rc3.d/S13?dm and then "telinit 3"
[11:12] <lauriexxx> jrib:i do have a x server, but the quality is really blured, it's like looking through a pair of big thick bottle bottomed glasses
[11:12] <Central> twinview would be clone right?
[11:12] <mage__> -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[11:12] <phil56> Scunizi: Back again.You know anything about remote desktop's ?
[11:12] <Central> So I need Seperate X?
[11:12] <jrib> lauriexxx: what video driver are you using
[11:12] <lauriexxx> jrib:ATI
[11:13] <simmerz> im looking at upgrading my dapper server to edgy. it is running as a uml guest (that's how i get my hosting). should I do a aptitude upgrade or a dist-upgrade? dist-upgrade shows a number of conflicts
[11:13] <hjmills> Central, nope - go for twinview
[11:13] <Scunizi> PhilKC,  yea.. I use them in my lan all the time
[11:13] <Central> ok
[11:13] <seamus7> Is "Evolution Alarm Notify" an important startup program/daemon?
[11:13] <ramboza_> i'm sorry - how to add the "Run command" item to the Main Menu in 7.0.4? I can only add it to the panel...
[11:13] <seamus7> I don't use Evolution.
[11:13] <Scunizi> phil56, yea, I use then in my lan all the time
[11:13] <mage__> LjL: ohhhhh
[11:13] <Central> can I apply?
[11:13] <jrib> lauriexxx: k, try pastebinning your /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  Someone may spot something
[11:13] <procrastinato1> has anyone got an idea on how to set up wifi with certificate (.cer) authentication?
[11:13] <hjmills> Central, yup - as twinview
[11:14] <mage__> LjL: ideally you create the bridge and iptables will specify the bridge
[11:14] <lauriexxx> jrib:although in my X11 it seems to indicate that he module is glx
[11:14] <Central> YEAH
[11:14] <HoocH_> how do I start terminal as root ? or with root rights ?
[11:14] <phil56> great,I enabled rd in my options .How do I let you see my desktop!
[11:14] <jrib> !root > HoocH_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:14] <hjmills> Central, now setup the resolution and the position
[11:14] <phil56> Scunizi: great,I enabled rd in my options .How do I let you see my desktop!
[11:14] <Jowi> HoocH_, "sudo -i"
[11:14] <UNDERsoN> How can I start azureus 3.0.14.jar ?
[11:14] <lauriexxx> jrib:sorry, but could you giv me the exact command, ive never done the pastebinnig before
[11:14] <mage__> LjL: also, why does each computer get its own ethernet card on the server?
[11:14] <Scunizi> phil56, are you running tightvnc? or the built in vnc?
[11:15] <procrastinato1> /name procrastinator
[11:15] <kiersie> were can i find a gpg file for kubuntu.org get?
[11:15] <jrib> !paste > lauriexxx (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:15] <Superstar> hello
[11:15] <pecisk> !rpm
[11:15] <phil56> Scunizi:  the built in one
[11:15] <hjmills> procrastinato1,  /nick?
[11:15] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:15] <simmerz> why am i getting conflicts on an upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[11:15] <phil56> I just enabled it
[11:15] <UNDERsoN> How can I run jar file azureus 3.0.14.jar
[11:15] <Scunizi> phil56, and do you have the appropriate ports open on the router forwarded to the machine?
[11:15] <Central> hmm
[11:15] <UNDERsoN> !jar
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <UNDERsoN> !java
[11:15] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[11:15] <Central> My right screen appears cropped
[11:15] <jrib> UNDERsoN: why not install azureus using synaptic instead?
[11:16] <mon^rch> UNDERsoN: you don't run it... you extract it
[11:16] <hjmills> Central, does it scroll when you mouse over the edges?
[11:16] <phil56> SHould I have to? Which all?would 5900  suffice?
[11:16] <ramboza_> When i right-click on the desktop i don't see the "Open Terminal" Entry any more - why so and how to get it back?..
[11:16] <TakeOut{u}> procrastinato1 , /nick yournick
[11:16] <Chousuke> mon^rch: no you don't
[11:16] <phil56> Scunizi: SHould I have to? Which all?would 5900  suffice?
[11:16] <Chousuke> UNDERsoN: java -jar azureus.jar
[11:16] <UNDERsoN> jrib because in repo is 2.5 ver on official site 3.0
[11:16] <mon^rch> Chousuke: oh? my bad then
[11:16] <Central> no its cropped on the left of my right screen
[11:16] <sabdfl_> does bash have a random number generator?
[11:16] <mc44> ramboza_: for the Run Application thing, you can install gmrun
[11:16] <UNDERsoN> Chousuke Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/cli/CommandLine
[11:16] <kiersie> were can i find a gpg file for kubuntu.org?
[11:16] <Chousuke> UNDERsoN: hmm
[11:17] <jrib> sabdfl_: echo $RANDOM   maybe
[11:17] <Scunizi> phil56, that may do it... do you use ekiga? for voice?
[11:17] <Chousuke> UNDERsoN: I suppose you need the java1.5 from the repos
[11:17] <phil56> Scunizi: No!
[11:17] <BlueEagle> underson: Unless you absolutely need the new features of 3.0 I recomend sticking with the one in the repository.
[11:17] <phil56> I never used it
[11:17] <hjmills> Central, as if the edge of your monitor was hiding it?
[11:17] <Scunizi> phil56, did you set up a password?
[11:17] <phil56> Scunizi: Nope
[11:17] <pecisk> how to uncompress rpm files under Ubuntu without installing them anyone knows?
[11:17] <phil56> Scunizi: just confirmation
[11:17] <hjmills> pecisk, use file-roller?
[11:17] <Scunizi> phil56, k.. I"ll try.. just a sec.
[11:17] <UNDERsoN> CHousuke I should delete 1.6 java or I can Install 2 versions
[11:17] <Central> no
[11:17] <LjL> mage__, heh, because it's my weird little network :) it begun with just the server and another computer, and i saw no need to buy a hub. then a second computer came, and since ethernet cards costed so little, i just got another... and then another... ;) anyway, would this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24129/ be what you're saying?
[11:18] <Central> not all screen is filled
[11:18] <godtvisken> PurpZeY: why isn't it in the repos yet, though?
[11:18] <gangsterlicious> hi
[11:18] <pecisk> hjmills: it says it doesn't support file format
[11:18] <honzik> hi
[11:18] <phil56> Scunizi: I accepted it
[11:18] <Scunizi> phil56, got it.. little slow.
[11:18] <jasin> Hi
[11:18] <phil56> Scunizi: Can you read me?
[11:18] <hjmills> central so its like its the resolution is too low so some of the screen isnt used?
[11:18] <thedonvaughn> pecisk, why do you need to work with .rpm?  I avoid those like the plague
[11:18] <Chousuke> UNDERsoN: 1.6 should work too :/
[11:18] <Scunizi> phil56, it just timed out..
[11:18] <hjmills> Central, are the two monitors the same res?
[11:18] <NeuraL> I've got a strange behavior when i upgraded to festy: when i run totem from KDE (or other gnome application) some server starts under the hood and mplayer stop working, never done before. Some has the same situation here?
[11:18] <phil56> Scunizi: Thanks goodness
[11:18] <Central> yes
[11:19] <phil56> Scunizi: :(
[11:19] <Central> they are the exact same brand too
[11:19] <sabdfl_> jrib: i think that does 1...32k, and i need a bit more control over it
[11:19] <thedonvaughn> pecisk, but I believe you can install rpm by "sudo aptitude install rpm" and you should be able to do what you need to that rpm after that.
[11:19] <ramboza_> mc44: I just want to add "Run application" item to the gnome menu...
[11:19] <Scunizi> phil56, I was starting to get the screen draw
[11:19] <sabdfl_> like 1..24
[11:19] <phil56> Scunizi: Too many downloads I guess
[11:19] <jasin> yo
[11:19] <sabdfl_> or 1.59
[11:19] <mc44> ramboza_: yes, you need to install gmrun
[11:19] <rescon> hmm
[11:19] <jrib> sabdfl_: echo $(( RANDOM%25 ))
[11:19] <phil56> Scunizi: I closed all downloads
[11:19] <jasin> 9 updates
[11:19] <phil56> Scunizi: try now
[11:19] <jrib> sabdfl_: echo $(( $RANDOM%25 ))
[11:19] <mage__> LjL: how do I specify like eth0?
[11:19] <hjmills> Central, hmm - any chance you could pop a sketch of it on the net?
[11:19] <Scunizi> phil56, could be.. most ISP limit up from your computer
[11:19] <jasin> echo
[11:19] <simmerz> so no one has done a dapper->edgy upgrade and come across conflicts? esp with checkinstall
[11:19] <jasin> echo
[11:19] <sabdfl_> sweet! thanks jrib
[11:19] <LjL> jasin, stop spamming
[11:19] <UNDERsoN> Chousuke I install 1.6 java from repo azureus is from official site
[11:20] <jasin> spam????????
[11:20] <jasin> lol
[11:20] <mage__> I'll just use -adaptorflag ok?
[11:20] <Scunizi> phil56, much better
[11:20] <phil56> Scunizi: Great!
[11:20] <Scunizi> phil56, what do you want me to do?  or are you just testing?
[11:20] <phil56> Scunizi: Atleast something's working
[11:20] <NeuraL> everbody is fine in kubuntu running mplayer *after* totem?
[11:20] <phil56> Scunizi: Nothing ,wanted to test
[11:20] <Central> is there something like paint in ubuntu? :P
[11:20] <LjL> mage__: the lines i had before i set up the bridging used to be like this: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -s <IP_ADDRESS> -d <IP_ADDRESS>/24 --out-interface eth2
[11:20] <ramboza_> mc44: this menu item was in the gnome menu in 5.0.4...why should i install smth just to get it back? :(
[11:21] <phil56> Scunizi: Thanks a ton
[11:21] <Scunizi> phil56, I use vnc all the time for helping clients/friends..
[11:21] <malawar> i'm having the hardest time getting this monitor to be the primary monitor :(
[11:21] <Scunizi> phil56, no problem..
[11:21] <phil56> Scunizi: Ahh,I see
[11:21] <mage__> hahah I *just* hit go
[11:21] <mon^rch> Central: it think there's a "xpaint"
[11:21] <malawar> gdm's login screen shows on the other monitor, the application bar shows there, etc
[11:21] <phil56> Scunizi: How do I trminate your conn?
[11:21] <mc44> ramboza_: because it is part of metacity and you can't seem to launch it. whats wrong with the panel applet
[11:21] <sabdfl_> jrib: is there a bash function to make a temp file?
[11:21] <Scunizi> phil56, I'll close it.
[11:21] <malawar> using nvidia drivers btw, twinview :/
[11:21] <jrib> sabdfl_: mktemp
[11:21] <Scunizi> phil56, should be closed..
[11:21] <phil56> Scunizi: I mean ,If I wanted to?
[11:22] <sabdfl_> super, thanks jrib
[11:22] <Scunizi> not sure.. never done it the reverse...
[11:22] <phil56> Scunizi: as a guest
[11:22] <hjmills> Central, use GIMP under Graphics in the Applications menu
[11:22] <phil56> Scunizi: Ohh
[11:22] <mc44> sabdfl_: should be using python :)
[11:22] <mage__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24130/
[11:22] <Scunizi> phil56, there should be some indicatoin on the taskbar for vnc that you can click.
[11:22] <mon^rch> Central: but the "gimp" can paint VERY nicely ;)
[11:22] <Scunizi> phil56, you wanna try again?
[11:22] <mage__> wewps, LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24130/ :)
[11:23] <ramboza_> mc44: i've installed that gmrun but still do not see "Run command" in the menu
[11:23] <kimmey> How may i make removeable usb-disk writeable? mine is only read.
[11:23] <hjmills> Central, if you want you can try doing it as seperate X screens but i think then you have two desktops rather than a stretched desktop so you cant move stuff between them
[11:23] <Central> I have no experence with the gimp
[11:23] <phil56> Scunizi: How do I access yours?
[11:23] <malawar> to sum up in one line: Using the nvidia drivers, I have twinview enabled, but it's picking up the wrong monitor for primary and nothing I've tried has switched them around.
[11:23] <Scunizi> phil56, let me see if my router is set correctly.
[11:23] <phil56> Scunizi: ok
[11:23] <jrib> malawar: tried using nvidia-settings to configure it?
[11:23] <Jowi> Central, if it's a LCD monitor you should have a auto adjust button on it.
[11:23] <mon^rch> Central: then pay around with it... it's kinda like photoshop :)
[11:23] <hjmills> Central, open a new file - make it 800x600 and find the pencil on the tools bit and draw
[11:24] <mc44> ramboza_: add gmrun to the menu
[11:24] <malawar> jrib, yeah, the layout is the way i want it, but the login screen and all the other fixings appear on the wrong monitor
[11:24] <mc44> ramboza_: alternatively you can do this http://linux.seindal.dk/2004/09/24/sawfish-and-the-gnome-run-application-dialog/
[11:24] <ChAaGgYy> alguien podria ayudarme con Ubuntu dapper
[11:24] <jrib> !es | ChAaGgYy
[11:24] <ubotu> ChAaGgYy: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:24] <phil56> Scunizi: I am thinking.if remote desktop works .I will try ssh over that as there are tons of tutorials on that!
[11:24] <LjL> mage__: thanks, looks sane than what i had no doubt ;)
[11:25] <seamus7> What does "Run Xclient Script" in Sessions upon GDM login mean?
[11:25] <Scunizi> phil56, ok.. give it a try
[11:25] <phil56> Scunizi: Waht should I type?
[11:26] <malawar> my displays are showing as DFP-0 and CRT-1 .. that would make you think the DFP would be primary, wouldn't it?
[11:26] <malawar> :/
[11:26] <Scunizi> phil56, right click my nick for ip
[11:26] <phil56> Scunizi: I mean your IP address or something
[11:27] <cables> <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:27] <bsnider> where is the sessions config info in the user's gnome config folders?
[11:27] <malawar> hold that thought, restarting X :/
[11:27] <phil56> Scunizi: It has options to ban and kick you ,lol .and send a file
[11:27] <bipolar> I'm trying to find xorg 1.3 packages for feisty. google is not helping me. can someone please point me in the right direction?
[11:27] <jrib> bsnider: depending on what you want, either ~/.config/autostart/ for startup programs or ~/.gnome2/session
[11:28] <Scunizi> phil56, you sure you're connected.. I didn't authorize yet.
[11:28] <mc44> bipolar: xorg 1.3 isn't in feisty, I doubt anyone has backported it
[11:28] <Central> hjmills:  how do I send this to you?
[11:28] <bipolar> mc44: but it's in gutsy?
[11:28] <Scunizi> phil56, try <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:28] <phil56> Scunizi: yea,I mean ,when I right click your nick it gives no options to get your ip!
[11:28] <phil56> Scunizi: okay
[11:28] <hjmills> Central, can you post it to the web somewhere?
[11:29] <mc44> bipolar: it is/will be (not sure on the status)
[11:29] <ramboza_> mc44: thanks...it's very odd that you can simply add "Run command" to the main panel, but you must install packages or compile scripts to add it to the gnome menu ))
[11:29] <bipolar> mc44: ahh.. I wonder where I got my misinformation from....
[11:29] <phil56> Scunizi: vncviewer <IP_ADDRESS> right?
[11:29] <Scunizi> phil56, yep
[11:29] <mc44> ramboza_: thats gnome for you :)
[11:29] <kitche> bipolar: you mean xorg 7.3 xorg 1.3 is kinda old isn't it :) unless of course you mean how they number the version's now
[11:29] <phil56> Scunizi: lovely
[11:30] <bipolar> kitche: er... no. yes. maybe. is it bigger then a toaster?
[11:30] <tritium> ramboza_: how is that odd?
[11:30] <Scunizi> phil56, hang on and I'll see if I can figure out where to terminate you.. You'll be looking and learning how if I figure it out.
[11:30] <phil56> Scunizi: cool
[11:31] <ramboza_> tritum: well i mean strange....and little stupid :(
[11:31] <mc44> kitche: its called xorg 1.3
[11:31] <phil56> Scunizi: cool
[11:31] <phil56> pid stuff
[11:31] <Scunizi> phil56, did that kill your access?
[11:31] <kitche> bipolar: anywys xorg 7.3 isn't even released yet
[11:31] <Central> hjmills:  imageshack doesn't appear to work...
[11:31] <phil56> Scunizi: Yup
[11:31] <Central> do you have any suggestions?
 kitche: its called xorg 1.3
[11:31] <kitche> mc44: if you say so
[11:31] <bipolar> kitche: thats why I asked about 1.3 :)
[11:32] <kitche> juan: thanks for repeating
[11:32] <hjmills> Central, oh ok - just email it to backup [ at]   donec [ dot]  com
[11:32] <Scunizi> phil56, fast and easy.. I would think that RD would have some other indication on the desktop that it's connected with options to terminate..
[11:32] <kitche> bipolar: try lookign for xorg 7.3 packages instead
[11:32] <malawar> ah, got it.
[11:32] <phil56> Scunizi: what was the name of the process though?
[11:32] <kitche> bipolar: since it's not even released yet you might not find any
[11:32] <phil56> Scunizi: yeah,there are no shortcuts as such
[11:32] <Scunizi> phil56, top to get the screen then.... I forgot.
[11:32] <Scunizi> phil56, log in again.
[11:33] <mc44> kitche: I meant, the server is 1.3
[11:33] <kitche> mc44: I know
[11:33] <Scunizi> phil56, vino-server
[11:33] <cjae> have to replace on board ethernet with pci nic I have a realtek rtl8139D 10/100 or a SMCen5030c 10/100 which one should I use??
[11:33] <phil56> Scunizi: done
[11:33] <kitche> mc44: 1.3 is what all the packages version are in 7.3
[11:33] <kafitz22> how would i go about installing ubuntu to a laptop without a cd or floppy drive, is there a way to install wubi to a partition...i've only got 512mb flash drives
[11:33] <phil56> Scunizi: I am thinking.if remote desktop works .I will try ssh over that as there are tons of tutorials on that!
[11:34] <Scunizi> phil56, that may just work..
[11:34] <mc44> kitche: well, it'll be in gutsy anyway, part of it at least :)
[11:34] <Scunizi> phil56, this is for friends of yours?
[11:34] <sharperguy> lol anyone know why "syntax on" isnt working anymore in my .vimrc file? (vim says it isn't supported in this version but it worked in edgy)
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: Yeah,Almost every other site has one tutorial
[11:53] <bsnider> jrib: i don't have a ~/.gnome2/session folde
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: Which one?
[11:53] <cjae> is smc supported by the kernel well??
[11:53] <tanath> can anyone help me get this sony video walkman working?
[11:53] <UNDERsoN> !kernel
[11:53] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:53] <bsnider> jrib: if i've got network-manager starting up by default, where would that config item be stored?
[11:53] <Scunizi> phil56, you trying to give access to friends to download?
[11:53] <bluefox83> whenever i run art manager and try to download or install any art for my login manager, it crashes the entire art mananager :(
[11:53] <phil56> I will be leaving my PC at home switched on so I can control utorrent while at uni or at work
[11:53] <Bakefy> I just installed ubuntu on a new computer, and I think I set the display resolution too high.  Now when the computer boots up the monitor turns off.  Any suggestions?
[11:53] <kitche> bipolar: also there is no 1.3 version right now it's like 1.2.99 for 1.3 development
[11:53] <tanath> sonicstage keeps saying i need to restart and log on as admin
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: My frinds and I have different music tastes ;)
[11:53] <hjmills> phil56, i used to use rtorrent, ssh and screen on my box
[11:53] <Scunizi> phil56, now I got it...! YOu just want control while away.. so you'll be logging in with rd.. right?
[11:53] <EADG> hjmills: thats a great combo.
[11:53] <hjmills> Bakefy, try recovery mode?
[11:53] <bluefox83> Bakefy, ssh in, change /etc/X11/xorg.conf to a usable resolution
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: Yup precisely
[11:53] <NeuraL> Please help me, mplayer stop working when i start totem in kde. Nobody got this problem?
[11:53] <Bakefy> thanks!
[11:53] <tritium> !fixres | Bakefy
[11:53] <Scunizi> phil56, I've got a lag to your ip at 350ms
[11:53] <ubotu> Bakefy: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:53] <bluefox83> isn't totem for gnome? O.o
[11:53] <jrib> bsnider: if you didn't add it yourself, it would be in the ~/.gnome2/session file I believe
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: Are you a moderator or something over here?
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: lolz
[11:53] <zaggynl> Hi, I'm currently using vino, is there a way to see the current status? about who's connected and all that?
[11:53] <hjmills> EADG, works really nicely and i used noip to make it reconnect to my no ip service so i could get it almost anywhere
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: pretty fucked up i know
[11:53] <Scunizi> phil56, god no!  I'm a 1+ year noob at linux.
[11:53] <bsnider> jrib: there is no such file or directory
[11:53] <Scunizi> phil56, lol
[11:53] <NeuraL> bluefox83: yes
[11:53] <jrib> bsnider: k
[11:53] <tritium> !language | phil56
[11:53] <ubotu> phil56: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: This is the best my ISP can ofer
[11:53] <kafitz22> hm, anyone have any ideas?
[11:53] <bluefox83> NeuraL, that's what i thought...
[11:53] <Hail_Spacecake> what the command that lists the free space on all mounted drives?
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: lolz okay
[11:53] <kitche> mc44: but yeah if bipolar comes back tell him to look for 1.2.99 packages since that's what it would be for 1.3 right now
[11:53] <jrib> Hail_Spacecake: df -h
[11:53] <josh_> !xorg
[11:53] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:53] <komtd> i am about to install software that CANT BE AUTHENTICATED! should i do it?
[11:53] <Scunizi> phil56, someone just asked a question that relates to your.... what's lolz? mean
[11:53] <bluefox83> now, can anyone tells me why my art manager keeps crashing when i try to download or install art for my login manager?
[11:53] <mc44> kitche: well, random bits of 1.3 are in gutsy already
[11:53] <NeuraL> bluefox83: after totem run mplayer stops
[11:53] <raulh> tes komtd
[11:53] <raulh> jsut hit Y
[11:53] <bipolar> kitche: thanks
[11:53] <bluefox83> NeuraL, try vlc
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: lol with an extra stress on the last syllable
[11:53] <Scunizi> phil56, gotcha... :)
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: What question btw?
[11:53] <mc44> kitche: but anyway, i clearly don't know much about what I'm talking about :)
[11:53] <Central> hjmills: did you recieve my e-mail?
[11:53] <NeuraL> uhm, i like mplayer... it's the best. I was wondering why this happen now
[11:53] <ramboza_> mc44: can you please help me with one more thing - in 5.0.4 there was a very useful menu item "Open terminal" in the popup menu when right-clicking on the desktop...And it has also disappeared in 7.0,4. Any way getting it back?
[11:53] <Scunizi> phil56, someone was asking about how to tell who's connected with rd.
[11:53] <hjmills> Central,  not yet
[11:53] <raulh> it should be back in apps tamboza
[11:53] <Central> should be send now
[11:53] <tanath> anyone know how to get sonicstage working?
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: given the lag of 350ms ,I don't think I can handle more than one client .lol
[11:53] <tanath> or know an equivalent linux app for video walkman?
[11:53] <raulh> woah.. i jsut try;d to run Gunz:theduel on wine and bucnh error messages opped uo and wont go away!
[11:53] <Scunizi> phil56,  gotta run.. if you get a chance check out http://www.tangsoosam.com.  I set it up using Joomla. 1st try at CMS.
[11:53] <m1r> i got old laptop where every input but floppy is broken and it dont have lan port, any sugestion for this bold quest install ?
[11:53] <dan_still> Hello all, I'm having some difficulty
[11:53] <jrib> bsnider: found it, checkout /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop
[11:53] <jrib> acs bsnider
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: Sure definitely
[11:53] <Central> hold on
[11:53] <Central> hjmills:
[11:53] <ramboza_> raulh: yep i see it in apps, but it was so useful in this certain menu...
[11:53] <mc44> ramboza_: install nautilus-open-terminal
[11:53] <raulh> m1r> what you triyng to install?
[11:53] <m1r> ubuntu :)
[11:53] <Central> I reset my monitor itself
[11:53] <Central> now it's showing the screens nicely
[11:53] <bluefox83> what is the name of the gnome art manager package?
[11:53] <m1r> but dont know where to start
[11:53] <raulh> well, download a CD
[11:53] <bluefox83> !gnome art
[11:53] <Central> it was my screen
[11:53] <raulh> and burn it into iso image with imgburn
[11:53] <Jowi> bsnider, jrib. sorry I missed what you were talking about. the gnome session is actually saved in $HOME/.gconfd/saved_state
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome art - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: Is that you? lol
[11:53] <m1r> i have cd , but cd rom broken
[11:53] <bluefox83> !art
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about art - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <hjmills> Central, not yet...
[11:53] <raulh> =0 u said floppy
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> hello
[11:53] <dan_still> I have tried nearly every avenue I can think of to get DVDs to play
[11:53] <m1r> u mean put all to floppy ?
[11:53] <tanath> can anyone help me with this video walkman?
[11:53] <raulh> it wouldn;'t fit
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> can i ask a questions about ubuntu ?
[11:53] <hjmills> Central, wait - i know what i did... - it should be a .co.uk email address - sorry
[11:53] <ramboza_> mc44: and what's next? :)
[11:53] <dan_still> When it does work it plays in spanish
[11:53] <Central> I did recieve my own mail... but the monitors are showing nicely now
[11:53] <m1r> would on 70 :)
[11:53] <raulh> but what you could do is get a usb drive
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> or talk with somebody ?
[11:53] <Scunizi> phil56, no.. I do have a pic in there.. I help teach..
[11:53] <greyfrog> !ask Cecoknopfler
[11:53] <Jowi> bsnider, (I think since I don't have the session file in .gnome2 either)
[11:53] <greyfrog> !ask | Cecoknopfler
[11:53] <ubotu> Cecoknopfler: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:53] <mc44> ramboza_: restart gnome :)
[11:53] <m1r> good idea :) i will try :)
[11:53] <hjmills> Central, so now they work>
[11:53] <raulh> np good luck
[11:53] <Central> yes
[11:53] <dan_still> Can some one give me a hand with this?
[11:53] <m1r> ty :)
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> i have downloaded and copied try cd of ubuntu
[11:53] <Central> I had to reset my right monitor
[11:53] <hjmills> Central, awesome - thats good
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: Where ion the gallery?
[11:53] <Central> hold on brb
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> i'm trying to boot it
[11:53] <hjmills> Central, ah ok
[11:53] <ramboza_> mc44: do you mean /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> but it doesn't works from cd
[11:53] <Scunizi> phil56, You'll get a pic of me at http://www.markgarrow.com
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> i have tried to boot from cd
[11:53] <mc44> ramboza_: sure
[11:53] <nightfreak> hi, what happened to php4-cgi in feisty? its not available
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> but it doesn't works
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> i have changed in boots order bios
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> i have changed in boots order in bios
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> with 1st cd rom
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> but doesn't work
[11:53] <nickrud_> Cecoknopfler, when you mount the cd in windows, does it show one file or a bunch of files on the cd?
[11:53] <jrib> !enter | Cecoknopfler
[11:53] <ubotu> Cecoknopfler: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:53] <Scunizi> phil56, at least it's easier to find..
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> sorry, i'm italian
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> i'm trying to do my best english :(
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: Cool,I will recommend my Friends about your firm in case they need help with houses ;)
[11:53] <nickrud_> !it
[11:53] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:53] <Lam_> what program is the default 7z extractor?
[11:53] <Scunizi> phil56, any of them in San Diego?
[11:53] <nickrud_> Cecoknopfler, but your english is good ;)
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> join #ubuntu-it
[11:53] <jrib> !7z > Lam_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:53] <raulh> 555-666! run linuz has the davil!!!
[11:53] <Lam_> jrib: thanks
[11:53] <hjmills> Cecoknopfler, you need a /
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: I got a couple of relatives in the US.Not sure where they live though!
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: and friends too
[11:53] <Scunizi> phil56, where are you at?
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> i have tried to change boot order in bios
[11:53] <kafitz22> aha, found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427793
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: India :)
[11:53] <n2diy> Cecoknopfler: /join #ubuntu-it  :)
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> and cdrom as 1st
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> but it doesn't work
[11:53] <kafitz22> nevermind to my earlier questions which y'all probably already did
[11:53] <kafitz22> thanks anyway
[11:53] <Scunizi> phil56, closest I got to india was naples italy
[11:53] <m1r> raulh, i dont think this old crap can boot of usb
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> i have 3 cdroms
[11:53] <phil56> Scunizi: Lolz
[11:53] <m1r> i will check now
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> and it tell me 4 ide
[11:53] <Central> ok I'm back hjmills
[11:53] <hjmills> Central, cool - is it all still okay?
[11:53] <Central> yes
[11:53] <NET||abuse> I'm trying to burn a dvd with files with an external dvd burner(usb) it detects when i insert a blank dvd and asks if i want to burn a dvd, so i go through the cd/dvd creator window, just dragging files in, then i hit write, and it says please insert supported dvd media., supported types .. and none are listed
[11:53] <Central> It's probably gonna mess again back in windows :P
[11:53] <Central> but nm
[11:53] <hjmills> Central, great! i recommend you save that backup file somewhere just in case you want to go back to one screen again
[11:53] <dan_still> OK, I'm back
[11:53] <hjmills> Central, this will only sort out linux but it will work no matter what you do in windows
[11:53] <Central> I now have every window popping up in exact center
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> how to reboot and find the right cd rom ?????
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> in bios ??
[11:53] <Central> is there a way to make them appear in center of 1 screen?
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> 1 is external
[11:53] <hjmills> Central, i think there is but it means you wont have the same res on both screens - ill look into it for you
[11:53] <NET||abuse> this thing says "Please put a disc, with at least 3.7 GiB free, into the drive.  The following disc types are supported:"
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> better here
[11:53] <Cecoknopfler> :)
[11:53] <NET||abuse> what can i do?
[11:53] <Cosmo_> Iam building a new computer and Iamthinking about turning my old system into a server/router is this possible and if so anyone know of a guide for doing such?
[11:53] <napsy_> http://napotnik.info/blog/?p=179
[11:53] <juan_> hola
[11:53] <napsy_> what have I been doing for the last three hours :)
[11:53] <pinkster> hi, which is best/most used torrent client for ubuntu?
[11:53] <hjmills> Cosmo_, it is possible and the best guide i know is the ubuntu server guide
[11:53] <raulh> anyone know a program "FREEWARE" that can run EXE programs, mostly full screenie games?
[11:53] <ibob63> I am learning about cron jobs. But I can't understand where an individual users crontab file is located?
[11:53] <hjmills> pinkster, azureus or deluge or bittorrent-gui or transmission
[11:53] <Cosmo_> hjmills: can it also be set up as a router for my home network?
[11:53] <Devyll> hello all. I have installed now vsftpd and I need to install proftpd. how do I uninstall vsftpd ?!
[11:53] <hjmills> Cosmo_, i think so tho I havn't done that
[11:54] <pinkster> anyone like utorrent? im migrating from win
[11:54] <lockd> ibob63: individual users can't run cron jobs afaik
[11:54] <kitche> ibob63: same place as /root's /etc/crontab/<user>
[11:54] <hjmills> pinkster, try azureus
[11:54] <pinkster> cool
[11:54] <pinkster> thx
[11:54] <Johne> is anyone in here using mouseemu on an ibook?
[11:54] <kitche> lockd: actually each user can have a cron job if they wanted to
[11:54] <Cosmo_> hjmills: only reason I ask is I have a crappy linksys wrt54g ver6 router and it sucks
[11:54] <hjmills> pinkster, not that I ever used uTorrent - its a windows program
[11:54] <hjmills> Cosmo_, lol - im sure you can
[11:54] <lockd> kitche: they just have to have the right permissions?
[11:55] <ibob63> kitche: I am just going to see if I have permission
[11:55] <kitche> lockd: pretty much liek you can sync sources as a user instead as root if you wanted
[11:55] <pinkster> anything like dvddecrypter for ubuntu?
[11:55] <kitche> lockd: if the sources is ina spot that user can write to
[11:55] <Devyll> can anybody tell me how to uninstall vsftpd ? (the command for uninstalling if there is one)
[11:56] <LjL> Devyll:  sudo apt-get remove vsftpd
[11:56] <LjL> Devyll:  sudo apt-get --purge remove vsftpd  if you want to remove the config files too
[11:56] <Devyll> LjL thanks
[11:56] <\666> anyone kno if linux is capable of running .exe file games?
[11:56] <LjL> !virtualizers > \666    (\666, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:56] <TakeOut{u}> !info wine
[11:56] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[11:56] <Lacrymology> !thingie
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thingie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <hjmills> \666, it can run some with wine and cedega
[11:57] <\666> wine dosnt work
[11:57] <Lacrymology> all bots should know about thingies
[11:57] <hatredx> where can I find information on specialty repos ? Some outside package places ... etc.
[11:57] <PriceChild> !botabuse > Lacrymology
[11:57] <r0bby> is there _ANY_ way to _NOT_ reformat the root directory?
[11:57] <Johne> !info mouseemu
[11:57] <ubotu> mouseemu: Emulate mouse buttons and mouse wheel. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15-6ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 124 kB
[11:57] <LjL> hatredx: "don't use them unless you really, really, really know what you're doing" <-- information :)
[11:57] <r0bby> force the installer to _NOT_ format it
[11:58] <mc44> r0bby: why not upgrade rather than installing
[11:58] <\666> !qeemu
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qeemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <LjL> !easysource > hatredx    (hatredx, see the private message from Ubotu) | that said, try this (select edgy, not feisty)
[11:58] <r0bby> mc44: fixing a broken install
[11:58] <LjL> !pm the bot > \666
[11:58] <LjL> r0bby: use the minimal cd...
[11:58] <\666> what? an di know
[11:59] <hatredx> sorry, new full time user to ubuntu (or deb like at all), slack convert...
[11:59] <Central> hjmills: did you find anything?
[11:59] <hatredx> anything like checkinstall do packages quick and sane from source compiles?
[11:59] <hjmills> Central, sorry - im still looking
[11:59] <LjL> hatredx, checkinstall is available, but calling it "sane"...
[12:00] <Central> ok, take your time. Soda?
[12:00] <mc44> hatredx: well, there is checkinstall...
[12:00] <tovella> \666 ubotu is a "bot" - it gives automated responses.
[12:00] <hatredx> I want clean and right...
[12:00] <hatredx> so reaching out for fast answer =P
[12:00] <hatredx> has to play nice. hehe
[12:00] <mc44> hatredx: most things should be in the repos, you should check them first :)
[12:00] <hatredx> granted, if not?
[12:00] <hjmills> Central, not for me but I have this for you : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242502
[12:01] <LjL> hatredx, that's simply impossible. [heavy]  human intervention is required to make sure packages are sane. anything that tries to do what checkinstall does will have shortcoming
[12:01] <Devyll> I have problems installing proftpd. The mirror is not responding. How do I tell apt-get another mirror ?! .. or something like that ? I downloaded the .deb package but when I try to install it it tells me that the dependencies are missing
[12:01] <Devyll> please help !


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[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> yea i have a meeting...nowish
[05:59] <jwendell> i think Ubugtu should be here too
[06:01] <gnomefreak> jwendell: i am gonna talk to seveas about it
[06:01] <gnomefreak> hes busy as hell today but ill catch up with him
[08:26] <gnomefreak> crimsun: you around?
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: okay this is really aggitating me, these people aren't triaging correctly
[08:30] <gnomefreak> who?
[08:30] <gnomefreak> and dont say me :(
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/78206
[08:31] <gnomefreak> looks like a newer bug than ive been playing in
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> this is not a Firefox bug. it's a java problem, flash, something that isn't working or whatever
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> we can tell because of the .jsp extension
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> i just got to it in my inbox
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i hate having 3% of all reports being useful
[08:34] <gnomefreak> wher ear eyou seeing that?
[08:35] <gnomefreak> nvm i wasnt reading title
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> :)-
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> there are so many bugs thar are flash issues. it's ridiculous
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> makes me hate Adobe so much more, it makes our jobs harder because it took them 2 years to release a flash library for linux
[08:39] <gnomefreak> should be fixed
[08:40] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: while your playing with the wikis (whenever you get time) can you add parts about java and flash so we have something to paste (after doing all the bugs the past 24 hours im getting tired of thinking) ;)
[08:42] <gnomefreak> screw it i added some more ?'s to that bug even i started on the right path and stopped thinking
[08:43] <Admiral_Chicago> yes, I can play with wikis sunday at earliest
[08:43] <gnomefreak> that sfine when eve ryou get time
[08:43] <gnomefreak> ever/you get time
[08:43] <Admiral_Chicago> yes, I am going to make it clear what we want from a bug report.
[08:45] <gnomefreak> thank you also on our responces page or bug triaging page can you add something about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[08:45] <gnomefreak> daniel asked david to do it but i dont think he has
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> yes, what we can do it link to the main bug report page, and make sure *our* devs are doing bug work correctly
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> i feel like mailing these guy who are doing bug reports and telling them what the team is doing
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe i'll chat with daniel about what he wants
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> we will see, i have class, meetings, dinner etc
[08:49] <gnomefreak> ok have fun i hav e afew other peopl ei need to ping for now ill be back on bugs later tonight or tomorrow :(
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> kk, ttul
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> wait a second, i don't have meetings today....I'm confused.
[08:50] <gnomefreak> i did
[08:50] <gnomefreak> lol thats 2 days in a row
[08:51] <gnomefreak> i havent gotten responces from the meeting emails yet i know your time and iirc alex wanted sundays meeting
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> :(. class until 3.30 >> 1 meeting >> dinner
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> i say sunday, ping daniel about it with another email
[08:52] <gnomefreak> pick a daniel
[08:52] <Admiral_Chicago> i have to run, can't be late
[08:52] <gnomefreak> k see ya later
[09:11] <gnomefreak> sent email to the bug ML about our bugs.
[09:12] <gnomefreak> bugSquad list
[11:36] <gnomefreak> do we have anyone upstream?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> arggg when will people learn :( i have one guy attaching his backtrace to every firefox crashing bug :(