[04:05] <wdh> traxen: i believe the selection takes place _after_ you changed the partition scheme
[04:05] <jacquesmerde> what is the iwconfig wlan0 channel supposed to be???
[04:06] <foxiness> after i edit my resolve by hand i can not get ride of "DHCP" on ubuntu5 why ?
[04:06] <wdh> traxen, partitionmanager just does what it says.. just like partitionmagic does not determine whether you use windows on which partitions..
[04:07] <traxen> wdh, there is an option for each partition that says
[04:07] <dcraven> martinhj: I suppose Ubuntu could make the change themselves if they really wanted to, but they wouldn't have to if GNOME made it default themselves. I think that is the plan.
[04:07] <traxen> that option is a drop down listbox
[04:07] <traxen> with "do not use" as default
[04:08] <thoreauputic> traxen: the changes won't be written to disk until you confirm them
[04:08] <martinhj> dcraven: ok, seems like a nice app, so I'm not against it:-)
[04:08] <cmd> how do i check kernel version?
[04:08] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: does "ifconfig" report wlan0 as a valid interface?
[04:08] <thoreauputic> cmd: uname -r
[04:08] <Jurku> cmd: uname -r
[04:08] <Jurku> damn :-p
[04:09] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: no
[04:09] <dcraven> martinhj: Yeah I hear you. I made it default on my machines for pdf and ps.
[04:09] <thoreauputic> Jurku: :)
[04:09] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: is the ndiswrapper module loaded into the kernel?
[04:09] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: i do i get it as a valid interface?
[04:09] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: i mean, how do i get it as a valid interface?
[04:09] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: i did a modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:10] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: did you follow the steps on the Ubuntu wiki or are you using the ndiswrapper module that came with Ubuntu?
[04:11] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: I'm just trying to figure out what you have done/tried thus far.
[04:11] <jacquesmerde> i followed the ubuntu wiki to the letter
[04:11] <jacquesmerde> i tried the module that came with ubuntu, didnt work, so i removed it, and followed the wiki to the letter
[04:11] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: what is your wifi chipset?
[04:12] <wdh> traxen, in that menu you should select: / for the partition you want to use ubuntu on
[04:12] <foxiness> martinhj, how mutch of people interested on evince you think?
[04:12] <BASS> need some help with installation who would help me?
[04:12] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: if you help me out here you will be my hero of all time
[04:12] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: what is your wifi chipset?
[04:12] <jacquesmerde> broadcom
[04:12] <jacquesmerde> wait, how do i find out for sure?
[04:13] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: "lspci | grep Network" will tell you.
[04:13] <foxiness> than how mutch of people interested on indicator "keybord switch" ?
[04:14] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: yup, broadcom 4301, so used bcmwl5 (same as the wiki author!)
[04:14] <wdh> foxiness s/mutch/much :)
[04:14] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: the wiki author is me :)
[04:14] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: no way!
[04:15] <foxiness> wdh, k be happey they dont care ;0 u must use one language "u can guess what is it ;)"
[04:15] <pops> Hey..  I'm having a really weird problem in X..  My mouse-cursor randomly turns BLACK making it very hard to see on the rest of the screen
[04:15] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: re your page then, someone's written down the bottom to tru sudo at the beginning of each line, but then you cant do the sed command for some reason (bash: permission denied)
[04:15] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: Try to unload the ndiswrapper module with "modprobe -r ndiswrapper" then reload it with "modprobe ndiswrapper". Maybe the old module is still loaded?
[04:15] <schasi> Help im getting a bad error message when i do an dist-upgrade. its "error when trying to overwrite /usr/share/icons/default.kde""
[04:15] <schasi> Is there a solution?
[04:16] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: tried it. didnt work
[04:16] <lexxan> How can I burn a bin/cue ?
[04:16] <thoreauputic> schasi: probably sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite
[04:16] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: can you paste the output of "ifconfig" to www.pastebin.com?
[04:17] <wdh> schasi, sudo mv /usr/share/icons/default.kde /usr/share/icons/default.kde.temp
[04:17] <thoreauputic> ah, yes that might be easier :)
[04:17] <foxiness> schasi, i think "not sure" chmod -Rv u+rwX /usr/share/icons/default.kde
[04:17] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: not really, its on a different computer, and it has no network on it!
[04:17] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: ifconfig only lists loopback
[04:17] <wdh> foxiness, i think the moving is easier :)
[04:18] <thoreauputic> foxiness: um...I don't think that's a good move
[04:18] <wdh> foxiness, at least more fool-proof
[04:18] <traxen> do I have to have a partition for the swap?
[04:18] <thoreauputic> traxen: how much ram do you have?
[04:18] <traxen> can't it use the same partition where ubuntu will be installed as a swap?
[04:18] <traxen> 512
[04:19] <thoreauputic> then use a swap partition
[04:19] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: though iWconfig seems to list wlan0, and it seems to have found my router since it nows its SSID
[04:19] <traxen> I have a swap partition.. but I think it's for windows
[04:19] <thoreauputic> traxen: a swap file is less efficient
[04:19] <foxiness> wdh,its "learn be mistak " its may way of ninja ;)
[04:19] <traxen> could it be also used for  ubuntu?
[04:19] <pops> Can someone tell me how to enable SW Cursors instead of HW?
[04:19] <thoreauputic> traxen: no, you need linux swap
[04:20] <thoreauputic> traxen: type 82 from memory
[04:20] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: did you extract the Windows drivers from a file called SP28538.exe?
[04:20] <wdh> foxiness, i know.. i am currently learning german that way :)
[04:20] <traxen> thoreauputic, im in windows now
[04:20] <lexxan> Can you use WPA-PSK with linux?
[04:20] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: Or did you get them from the Windows CD or something.
[04:20] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: no! i googled for that file and the only hit i got was the ndiswrapper page itself
[04:20] <traxen> thoreauputic, alright.. sorry.. the swap partition I already have is for linux.. it's called linux swap
[04:20] <traxen> so I'll use that
[04:20] <traxen> thank you
[04:20] <foxiness> wdh, nice to hear that im not alone anymore on this positon "fool-proof"
[04:21] <thoreauputic> traxen: well, for 512MB of RAM, use *at least* 512 MB swap
[04:21] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: i got them from Q_continuum
[04:21] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: he emailed them to me an hour ago
[04:21] <traxen> thoreauputic, yup, it's around 500 megs
[04:21] <thoreauputic> OK
[04:22] <dcraven> hmmm
[04:22] <foxiness> wdh, if i can ask u q,what your native language than
[04:22] <wdh> foxiness, dutch
[04:23] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: how come iwconfig seems to suggest i'm connected sweetly, but ifconfig suggests not so much?
[04:23] <foxiness> wdh, hmmm its make me inconveniency "german-dutch"
[04:24] <wdh> foxiness, what do you mean?
[04:25] <foxiness> wdh, i can not understand the diff btw this 2 language
[04:25] <thoreauputic> foxiness: netherlands=dutch,  deutsch= german
[04:26] <thoreauputic> foxiness: it's a peculiarity of english
[04:27] <marjorie> hello, could some one helpme installing hplips?
[04:27] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: What was the name of the file that Q_Continuum sent you? Do you still have it?
[04:27] <foxiness> thank you thoreauputic for your clear des>>>
[04:28] <thoreauputic> marjorie: what the heck is hplips?
[04:28] <marjorie> its the hp printing system
[04:28] <foxiness> thoreauputic, like u read my mind
[04:29] <marjorie> i was using just cups, but all of a sudden nothing is printing
[04:29] <thoreauputic> marjorie: why do you need that? doesn't the printer install for you with CUPS?
[04:29] <thoreauputic> ah
[04:29] <marjorie> it did work fine..
[04:29] <marjorie> and the computer doesnt see any error
[04:29] <marjorie> the printer makes the right 'noises' but nothing on paper!
[04:30] <thoreauputic> marjorie: have you tried  sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart   ?
[04:30] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: Ok, assuming you still have the .inf and .sys files handy somewhere, let's try reloading them. First, unload the module with "modprobe -r ndiswrapper", then blow away your currently installed drivers like this "rm -rf /etc/ndiswrapper", then install the drivers again with "ndiswrapper -i /path/to/bcmwl5.inf".
[04:30] <marjorie> no but, have rebooted several times since problem...
[04:30] <marjorie> ill give it a go now
[04:31] <thoreauputic> marjorie: and look in /var/log/cups/error_log
[04:31] <foxiness> marjorie, i has this problem too "nothing"
[04:31] <marjorie> foxness, its wierd it was workinf fine for aorund 3 months
[04:31] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: I guess we'll assume that the drivers you have are the correct ones.. If you are unsure, I've put them on my server for you here --> http://arker.homelinux.org/~dcraven/SP28537.exe
[04:31] <foxiness> marjorie, sure its
[04:31] <thoreauputic> marjorie: when you try to print, first run  sudo tail -f /var/log/cups/error_log   and see if it says something
[04:32] <thoreauputic> marjorie: leave the terminal open so it can tail the file for you
[04:34] <shopgirl> do you like poo
[04:34] <thoreauputic> shopgirl: go away unless you are going to be sensible, please
[04:34] <shopgirl> i eat babbys
[04:34] <yonil> Q: how am i suppose to run a jar file? (its a java game)
[04:35] <BlackLabel> yonil: install jre
[04:35] <yonil> BlackLabel, ive got jre
[04:35] <lexxan> ?? java
[04:35] <fsapo> hi all, i just bought a new dvd recorder. and recorded my first dvd... in the recorder it is reading everything alright.. but in my combo (dvdrom) its saying that just have 15 files of the 25 current recorded in the dvd... what could be the problem?
[04:35] <yahalom_> lol
[04:35] <BlackLabel> then java -jar File.jar
[04:35] <jacquesm1rde> dcraven: i'm all connected. i'll never curse a gui conf app again!
[04:35] <yonil> BlackLabel, works cool ;)
[04:35] <lexxan> ?? java
[04:35] <BlackLabel> yonil: as it should :)
[04:36] <BlackLabel> lexxan: what?
[04:36] <dcraven> jacquesm1rde: hahaha.. You're good now? Congrats :)
[04:36] <lexxan> ?? java
[04:36] <[uhelp] > java: Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java -OR- http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats. You may also use apt-get to install 'java-package' which will take a linux binary copy of JRE from http://java.sun.com and create a debian package (make-jpkg).
[04:36] <[uhelp] > Hey lexxan, i've already told #ubuntu about "java"... no need to repeat (i think)
[04:36] <thoreauputic> lexxan: the bot has taken a vacation, it seems
[04:36] <thoreauputic> aha
[04:37] <yahalom_> ?? xmms
[04:37] <[uhelp] > xmms[x] : No defenition found for word.
[04:37] <yahalom_> need volunteers to write deffinitions?
[04:37] <lop> hi all
[04:37] <yahalom_> hi
[04:38] <thoreauputic> ?? nvidia
[04:38] <[uhelp] > nvidia: to setup your xorg binary nvidia driver see - http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto -OR- http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver -ALSO- http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html
[04:38] <yahalom_> nice
[04:38] <fsapo> hi all, i just bought a new dvd recorder. and recorded my first dvd... in the recorder it is reading everything alright.. but in my combo (dvdrom) its saying that just have 15 files of the 25 current recorded in the dvd... what could be the problem?
[04:38] <thoreauputic> ah, good that's useful
[04:38] <Aladdin-> Hi guys
[04:39] <thoreauputic> ?? ati
[04:39] <[uhelp] > ati: To setup your xorg binary ati driver see - http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:39] <thoreauputic> hmm - good work bot :)
[04:39] <thoreauputic> ?? gcc
[04:39] <[uhelp] > gcc: To add basic compilers see - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#build-essential
[04:40] <thoreauputic> excellent!
[04:40] <Aladdin-> Got a problem: some websites force me to refresh my desktop as part of it goes blank when I open them.  Same thing when using the scroll bar on many K desktop related applications. Got a clue? And a fix?
[04:42] <raveneye> hi, anyone else havings lockups when playing a music file?
[04:42] <marjorie>  thoreauputic: no erorrs
[04:43] <thoreauputic> marjorie: odd
[04:43] <lexxan> the bot will be around when my computer is online :P
[04:43] <marjorie> the first bit was me readding the printer, the the print job but all looks fine
[04:43] <thoreauputic> marjorie: local printer or network?
[04:43] <marjorie> local, usb
[04:43] <thoreauputic> lexxan: I see :)
[04:43] <hypno> lexxan: what's the bot written in?
[04:43] <marjorie> i plugged it in to a winblow box and it was fine..
[04:43] <lexxan> just an eggdrop with a tcl script.
[04:43] <shopgirl> raveneye yes i cant play music on ubuntu
[04:44] <marjorie> i thought, maby update driver, then i saw that hp had its own print drive system thingy...
[04:44] <marjorie> that is what i was trying to install
[04:44] <thoreauputic> marjorie: if it was working before, that isn't the answer
[04:44] <marjorie> sure...
[04:45] <marjorie> i did change the carts recently but that is not when the problem started
[04:45] <marjorie> about a week after
[04:45] <thoreauputic> marjorie: you haven't fiddled with the cups configuration at all?
[04:45] <marjorie> never!
[04:45] <thoreauputic> OK
[04:45] <lexxan> How can i burn bin & cues
[04:45] <marjorie> i went to add printer in the menu and pointed it at a ppd file
[04:45] <marjorie> it worked like a dream!
[04:46] <marjorie> i thought mabe it wasnt reporting the cartirge refill 'state' or something...
[04:46] <thoreauputic> marjorie: you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys  I suppose
[04:47] <marjorie> k
[04:47] <thoreauputic> it might not do anything...
[04:48] <tombs> hi ppl
[04:49] <yahalom_> help plz: this is my webcam Bus 001 Device 004: ID 05a9:8519 OmniVision Technologies, Inc.
[04:49] <yahalom_>  gnome meeting doesnt find it and all the other web cam apps neither it seems, any ideas?
[04:49] <marjorie>  still same, its so weird beacuse the carts move left to right just no ink on paper!
[04:50] <thoreauputic> marjorie: in all applications or just , say, open office ?
[04:50] <thoreauputic> marjorie: I wonder if it's an application issue rather than a cups issue?
[04:51] <marjorie> no everything
[04:51] <thoreauputic> hmmm
[04:51] <marjorie> just useing print test page right now
[04:52] <thoreauputic> marjorie: when printers work in linux, they work well, bu troubleshooting is a pain...
[04:52] <baikonur> hi, I followed http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FontInstallHowto to install fonts. Is .fonts also in the font path openoffice use?
[04:52] <thoreauputic> *but
[04:52] <thoreauputic> baikonur: yes, should be
[04:52] <klaym> hey what's up with amule crashing all the time randomly? anyone else having the same problem, and have a solution? thanks!
[04:53] <marjorie> thats why this is so wierd, im used to struggleing getting something setup but this worked fine b4!
[04:53] <thoreauputic> marjorie: indeed
[04:54] <marjorie> its my grannys pc u see...
[04:54] <thoreauputic> marjorie: I suggest you look throughthe logs in /var/log/cups  and see when the problem first appeared
[04:55] <marjorie> ok
[04:55] <thoreauputic> marjorie: possibly a daily cron job did something funny to cups
[04:55] <thoreauputic> in which case the logs might reveal what
[04:56] <wdh> ?? java
[04:56] <[uhelp] > java: Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java -OR- http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats. You may also use apt-get to install 'java-package' which will take a linux binary copy of JRE from http://java.sun.com and create a debian package (make-jpkg).
[04:56] <Kisain> i just got finished with an argument about which was better linux or wintard hacxp
[04:57] <Kisain> needless to say i one when i crashed his windows
[04:57] <FlyingSquirrel32> hey, has anyone tried getting a prog called "wtlib" to work?
[04:57] <wdh> won*
[04:58] <gorilla_> hi ppl.... How do I change the mouse pointer?  How do I get the one that looks like the ms windows one.
[04:58] <Nalioth> Kisain, are you still here?
[04:58] <Kisain> yea just got on
[04:58] <wdh> gorilla_, system - preferences ?
[04:58] <Nalioth> FlyingSquirrel32, what is wtlib?
[04:58] <Kisain> after crashing my freinds computer cause he thought windows was better
[04:59] <gorilla_> wdh: then where??
[04:59] <thoreauputic> marjorie: also if you type just "mail" in a terminal do you see any messages from root ? (press enter to get each message)
[04:59] <sobersabre> guys... is there a way to specify user's home dir on login.... ?
[04:59] <wdh> gorilla_, dunno.. you can at least change the size..
[04:59] <sobersabre> like ssh user@host --home=/some/where ...
[04:59] <sobersabre> ?
[04:59] <wdh> gorilla_, maybe it's something in the them
[04:59] <wdh> *theme
[05:00] <FlyingSquirrel32> Nalioth: just a library prog I'm trying to get to run on wine. Thanks anyway.
[05:00] <thoreauputic> gorilla_: try installing gcursors
[05:00] <Rocha> Hello
[05:00] <Nalioth> Kisain, crashing some1s windoze is a waste of your time and resources.. .. ..it'll happen sooner rather than later by itself
[05:00] <marjorie> well i looked through the error log, nothing just the same block of msgs over and over for each job
[05:00] <Nalioth> FlyingSquirrel32, i run a PPC, so no wine
[05:00] <Kisain> yea but it was to prove a point
[05:00] <traxer> thoreauputic, wdh, I finally installed ubuntu! :)
[05:00] <traxer> thank you guys
[05:00] <Kisain> that windows securety is flawed
[05:00] <thoreauputic> traxer: well done and welcome :D
[05:00] <FlyingSquirrel32> Does anyone know of a good IRC for C/C++ programming?
[05:00] <wdh> traxer, now tell me.. was it hard? :P
[05:01] <Kisain> really really flawed
[05:01] <Xappe> aaah, just realized that centericq is a really good program
[05:01] <traxer> no... I was just insanely scared
[05:01] <Nalioth> FlyingSquirrel32, kdevelop?
[05:01] <sobersabre> FlyingSquirrel32: #c ... ?
[05:01] <wdh> traxer, what did you miss earlier?
[05:01] <FlyingSquirrel32> hey, has anyone tried getting a prog called "wtlib" to work?
[05:01] <traxer> damn.. gnome is much better than KDE
[05:01] <fragspaz> how do i exit the xserver and boot straight into vga mode
[05:01] <sobersabre> traxer: this is a very subjective opinion :)
[05:01] <traxer> wdh, I have to choose the mount for the ext3 partition
[05:02] <thoreauputic> fragspaz: permanently or just once?
[05:02] <fragspaz> just once
[05:02] <fragspaz> installing a gfx card
[05:02] <fragspaz> oops
[05:02] <fragspaz> upadting the driver
[05:02] <traxer> sobersabre, yeah I know... I was always using KDE in mandrake.. and loved it... but now... after seeing gnome.. it acts a bit more like windows than KDE... but im sure you can configure either one to act as anything you want
[05:02] <thoreauputic> fragspaz: if just once,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:03] <sobersabre> gnome acts like windows ?!?! ... hmmm....
[05:03] <Rocha> I have a P4, how can I change my kernel to use SMP ?
[05:03] <sobersabre> Rocha: why .. do you have SMP ?
[05:03] <fragspaz> thoreauputic, will that work after reboot?
[05:03] <fragspaz> will x start again?
[05:03] <Fator_Dee> fortunately I don't remember anymore how windows acted :-o
[05:03] <thoreauputic> fragspaz: sure
[05:04] <fragspaz> so would that be ideal for instaslling a driver?
[05:04] <Fator_Dee> except the BSoDs
[05:04] <thoreauputic> fragspaz: you can also do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart or startx wiyhout rebooting
[05:04] <fragspaz> kool
[05:05] <fragspaz> @throeau: so is this safe for installing drivers?
[05:05] <Janux> Does anyone know any Java Channel? because it says that i have to be authorized to enter #Java in Freenode.net
[05:05] <thoreauputic> fragspaz: if this is an nvidia or ati driver, read the wiki page
[05:05] <lexxan> Janux, what is the java problem.
[05:05] <fragspaz> im reading there docs
[05:06] <thoreauputic> fragspaz: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:06] <gorilla_> wdh: thanks :-0
[05:06] <thoreauputic> fragspaz: don't follow the manufacturers docs, use the ubuntu ones
[05:06] <gorilla_> wdh: :-) rather
[05:06] <fragspaz> thx thoreau
[05:06] <wdh> gorilla_, where was it located? in the themes?
[05:07] <thoreauputic> Janux: register your nick
[05:07] <Kisain> how long dose it take for the cd's you order form ubuntu to get here?
[05:07] <Kisain> some of my freinds want to try it out
[05:07] <thoreauputic> Kisain: 4-6 weeks
[05:07] <Kisain> O_0
[05:07] <thoreauputic> Kisain: on average
[05:08] <Kisain> wow
[05:08] <thoreauputic> snail mail :)
[05:08] <Kisain> why can't snail mail be more like e-mail?
[05:08] <Kisain> lol
[05:08] <gorilla_> appears to be part of the theme but I couldn't find it in system->preferences.... I installed gcursor and will logout and back in again to see if it make a difference.
[05:08] <thoreauputic> Kisain: don't complain - who else sends you an operating system for nothing?
[05:08] <Kisain> you have a scanner connected to your box it scans the pacage and sends it
[05:08] <moomin> it's free ?
[05:09] <moomin> wow
[05:09] <Kisain> i'm not
[05:09] <Kisain> complaning
[05:09] <fragspaz> threau, can i PM u
[05:09] <thoreauputic> moomin: yup
[05:09] <fragspaz> only quick
[05:09] <thoreauputic> fragspaz: why?
[05:09] <Kisain> how can you complane for something thats free? it was just an ittilectual thought
[05:09] <Kisain> initlectual*
[05:09] <thoreauputic> Kisain: I was kidding :)
[05:09] <Kisain> oh lol
[05:09] <Fator_Dee> intellectual?
[05:10] <Kisain> yea there it is lol\
[05:10] <Kisain> damn typing gremlins
[05:10] <Fator_Dee> don't feed them after midnight
[05:10] <Kisain> they get into your keyboard and mess up the keys
[05:10] <Kisain> i did that once
[05:10] <Kisain> they ate all the keys off of my keyboard
[05:11] <Kisain> the little bastards lol
[05:12] <gorilla_> Kisain, that's funny... I find that they change the positions of the keys on the keyboard.
[05:12] <Kisain> you know that seems to happen alot
[05:12] <gorilla_> wdh: gcursor seems to have fixed it after logging in again.
[05:12] <Kisain> i've been trying to compose a fact sheet on what they do
[05:12] <Kisain> i'll have to add that
[05:12] <Kisain> :)
[05:13] <wdh> gorilla_, thx :) i'll take a dive into that as well :)
[05:13] <wdh> gorilla_, it's always nice to try new things
[05:14] <yahalom_> anyone here use cvs cedega instead of paying for it?
[05:14] <Kisain> :)
[05:14] <gorilla_> wdh: yep... :-)
[05:15] <marjorie> do u think its worht while installing the hp driver?
[05:16] <thoreauputic> marjorie: I frankly doubt that's the problem
[05:17] <marjorie> mabe find a batter inside printer to 'reset' it?
[05:17] <thoreauputic> marjorie: something is screwed in the cups config I think: you might try purging your cups related packages and reinstalling them
[05:18] <marjorie> reccon an apt-get distupgrade would do it?
[05:18] <marjorie> its been 5 mnths...
[05:18] <marjorie> since i touched this box
[05:18] <thoreauputic> marjorie: how up to date is your installation?
[05:18] <thoreauputic> oh
[05:19] <thoreauputic> in that case you definitely need to do an apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:19] <marjorie> oke doke
[05:19] <thoreauputic> marjorie: much water has passed under the bridge
[05:19] <thoreauputic> marjorie: there will be heaps of upgrades
[05:20] <thoreauputic> hope you have bandwidth...
[05:20] <marjorie> :) yup,
[05:20] <thoreauputic> marjorie: don'r forget to do apt-get update first
[05:20] <thoreauputic> *don't
[05:20] <marjorie> cool <IP_ADDRESS> now
[05:21] <marjorie> only 51 megs worth
[05:21] <pdk001> hi all
[05:21] <Mackie_Messer> salve all ;-)
[05:21] <thoreauputic> marjorie: that's surprising - must be a basic install
[05:22] <jchillerup> Hey.. What is the module name for the driver for a nvidia-based SATA controller?
[05:22] <marjorie> well, ill probably back with more, differnt problems soon :)
[05:22] <thoreauputic> marjorie: I take it little new has been installed since you put it on that box?
[05:22] <marjorie> nothing
[05:22] <thoreauputic> I see
[05:22] <marjorie> my gran uses, this, evo, open office and firefox
[05:22] <thoreauputic> you *did* do apt-get update first?
[05:22] <marjorie> thats it
[05:22] <marjorie> yeah
[05:23] <thoreauputic> OK just checking...
[05:23] <marjorie> :)
[05:23] <marjorie> its worth while in my case
[05:23] <marjorie> :p
[05:23] <jchillerup> Chipset: NVIDIA nForce3 250Gb
[05:23] <Mackie_Messer> *hmm* i have to learn english and german for school...
[05:23] <dcraven> I just updated the http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto page.. Man it's hard to please everyone :)
[05:23] <thoreauputic> marjorie: hmm... you seem pretty on the ball as far as I can see :)
[05:26] <thoreauputic> marjorie: maybe set up openssh-server on your gran's box so you can ssh in and do the occasional apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[05:26] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:26] <marjorie> yeah i need more time on it
[05:26] <Kisain> sorry tripped over power cord
[05:27] <gorilla_> jchillerup, try sata_sil or sata_nv :-)
[05:27] <marjorie> ive set up a no ip account this time tho
[05:27] <Get> is it possible to get bison2 on ubuntu?
[05:27] <yahalom_> how do i remove an app that i didnt get through apt-get, such as skype?
[05:27] <thoreauputic> marjorie: so it's been running without problems for five months?
[05:27] <marjorie> yup
[05:27] <yahalom_> sudo dpkg -i skype ???
[05:27] <marjorie> rebooted 4 times
[05:27] <yahalom_> i mean dplg -i remove
[05:27] <Kisain> who ever it was that needed help with cedega pm me
[05:27] <thoreauputic> marjorie: heh - Ubuntu - "Linux for Grannies" *grin*
[05:27] <marjorie> you bet :)
[05:28] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:28] <Nafallo> yahalom_, rather apt-get remove :-)
[05:28] <marjorie> trying to get her to do abit of kernel recompilation :)
[05:28] <thoreauputic> marjorie: hahahaha :D
[05:28] <marjorie> she finds it sooooo much easyier than windows tho
[05:28] <gorilla_> lol :-D
[05:28] <yahalom_> Nafallo, thanx
[05:28] <yahalom_> Nafallo, where can i all my .deb? cos i dont remember the name
[05:28] <marjorie> it boots, and the apps she uses all open to seperate workspace
[05:29] <marjorie> v simple but just the ticket
[05:29] <thoreauputic> marjorie: cool
[05:29] <Nafallo> yahalom_, /var/cache/apt probably.
[05:29] <guruff> hello :) i need with kernel :) anyone ?
[05:30] <thoreauputic> marjorie: get her to set up a Beowulf cluster in the basement ;-)
[05:30] <marjorie> heh.
[05:30] <Mackie_Messer> *lol*
[05:30] <gorilla_> or better: folding@home :-)
[05:30] <marjorie> its funny, she understands abstract concepts a lot better than people who i teach programmin too
[05:30] <marjorie> beacuse she doesnt 'try' to understand she just accepts he functionality
[05:31] <thoreauputic> marjorie: there are plenty of smart grannies out there :)
[05:31] <marjorie> oh yeah
[05:32] <marjorie> we have a little emacs icon for granny backup, when she clicks the goat all here docs goto an ftp
[05:32] <EvilIdler> I haven't heard grandpa complain about the Ubuntu install I did for him, either.
[05:32] <thoreauputic> marjorie: haha- wow !
[05:32] <yahalom_> Nafallo, i cant find it man
[05:32] <thoreauputic> marjorie: nice idea
[05:33] <yahalom_> Nafallo, i want to remove point2play and cedega and i cant
[05:33] <marjorie> she was emailing her printer oo docs, that confused him a bit!
[05:33] <thoreauputic> marjorie: I thought it was a GNU ?
[05:33] <Nafallo> yahalom_, are you root?
[05:33] <marjorie> , sry i meant a guy who puts her work in publications, not the b0rked hp dj
[05:34] <marjorie> he didnt know what open office was!
[05:34] <yahalom_> Nafallo, i did it as root, just my file isnt there
[05:34] <dapus> hi all
[05:34] <thoreauputic> marjorie: heh - now he knows how we feel when people send us .doc files...
[05:34] <Nafallo> yahalom_, what file? I thought you wanted to uninstall packages?
[05:34] <marjorie> people have now statted emailing my gran their docs so she can convert them, she just opens them oo converts and she sends away again
[05:35] <marjorie> 'magic'
[05:35] <thoreauputic> marjorie: great
[05:35] <dapus> finntroll owns!!
[05:35] <Vjaz> thoreauputic: When people send you .doc files, you actually think "What is this .doc? Never heard of it. Microsoft, you say? Some new company?"
[05:35] <marjorie> right time for the big reboot
[05:36] <thoreauputic> Vjaz: no, i think "When will people wake up to how badly they are locked in? "  :)
[05:36] <marjorie> brb
[05:36] <yahalom_> Nafallo, i installed point2play from the web and i want to remove it
[05:36] <Nafallo> yahalom_, start synaptic, find the package, remove it.
[05:37] <thoreauputic> Vjaz: but I still do a double-take when it happens: I'm so unused to .docs now
[05:37] <yahalom_> Nafallo, nice
[05:37] <dapus> help, sound doesnt work in enemy territory!!!
[05:37] <fsapo> just a stupid questin.. i ve burned a dvd with gnomebaker... it say closing disc and stopped.. is it already finished?
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Vjaz: sometimes I convert them to .pdf and send the edited version back in that format ;)
[05:38] <karljp> anyone had any problems with thunderbird not responding properly to mailto: links from firefox if it's already running?
[05:38] <Blissex> fsapo: it can take a while to close a disc. Wait until the light on the drive is off
[05:38] <karljp> I get the profile selector come up, instead of having the link sent to an already running instance
[05:38] <fsapo> Blissex, the light is already off
[05:38] <Blissex> fsapo: should be Ok then. If you can eject the disc it is finished. Burners lock the door while burning.
[05:38] <Vjaz> thoreauputic: Heh. Interesting.
[05:38] <gunny> should USB card readers work in Ubuntu?
[05:39] <Nafallo> gunny, works for me.
[05:39] <karljp> the mozilla-thunderbird script seems to try and do this properly, and from other users it seems to work automatically for debian people, so I was wondering if this was a result of some ubuntu tweak.
[05:39] <fsapo> Blissex, ok thanx, just another question
[05:39] <Vjaz> thoreauputic: PDF isn't good for everything though.
[05:39] <gunny> I have a Sandisk Image mate dmesg sees it lsusb sees it, but it won't mount no matter what I have tried
[05:39] <thoreauputic> Vjaz: true
[05:40] <fsapo> Blissex, the first dvd i ve burned here only reads on the dvdram drive.. if i put it in my dvdrom drive it just shows some files...
[05:40] <Vjaz> thoreauputic: PDF is good when you need mathematical formulas or the document is meant for printing.
[05:40] <gunny> dmsg reports spinning up disc over and over again
[05:40] <Vjaz> OpenOffice can handle mathematical formulas too, though... maybe it's not that bad.
[05:40] <Nafallo> gunny, worked on my girlfriend's shuttle, running warty...
[05:40] <Vjaz> Also, I hear some guy is implementing LaTeX-style formula editing in Abiword! That rocks.
[05:41] <thoreauputic> Vjaz: alternatively, convert to text, send the hidden MS stuff back and ask if they really wanted you to see the minutes of their confidential financial meeting ;-)
[05:41] <Nafallo> gunny, that was sandisk to...
[05:41] <gunny> I suspect the reader may be bad since my camera mounts just fine
[05:41] <thoreauputic> Vjaz: I've seen all kinds of stuff in .docs ...
[05:41] <Vjaz> thoreauputic: Hehee.
[05:41] <Nafallo> gunny, have another puter to try on?
[05:41] <Vjaz> thoreauputic: I've never dug into those. Maybe I should do that just for kicks some day. ;-)
[05:41] <gunny> yeah doing that now
[05:42] <thoreauputic> Vjaz: you'll be shocked, as I was
[05:43] <Vjaz> Luckily, I haven't used .docs for my own purposes in ages.
[05:43] <thoreauputic> Vjaz: very wise, believe me
[05:43] <Vjaz> I think I did need to use them at my old trainee job though.
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Vjaz: people are shocked when they realise how much stuff can be hidden in that format
[05:45] <Vjaz> Well, it's not really a "format".
[05:45] <Vjaz> More like "memory dump".
[05:45] <thoreauputic> wrong word, sorry
[05:45] <Nafallo> hehe
[05:45] <EvilIdler> thoreauputic: Game companies including documentation which also had every not-safe-for-work link they'd ever visited in them, for example :)
[05:45] <thoreauputic> EvilIdler: heheh
[05:45] <shopgirl> hi guys wot u up 2 ?
[05:46] <Vjaz> EvilIdler: Ah, I remember that one I think!
[05:46] <Rorqual_Celine> hi here
[05:46] <Vjaz> EvilIdler: Or I think I've heard of something similiar...
[05:46] <EvilIdler> It was a flight simulator, I think. Sometime last year.
[05:46] <anon12> do you kubuntu
[05:46] <shopgirl> vjaz wot u up 2 ?
[05:47] <dcraven> shopgirl: Is that an actual sentance? :)
[05:47] <Vjaz> shopgirl: Learning how to use Emacs.
[05:47] <dcraven> Vim!
[05:47] <Bhodi> ey zeedo ;)
[05:47] <Vjaz> dcraven: I already know how to use Vim. :-P
[05:47] <lodd> How do I change from UTF-8 to something else?
[05:47] <thoreauputic> ed! ed is the editor! man ed! ed, man!
[05:47] <dcraven> Vim! Vim!
[05:47] <sig> sux
[05:47] <jchillerup> nano
[05:47] <zeedo> Bhodi: yo
[05:47] <shopgirl> vjaz : wots emacs ?
[05:48] <Vjaz> I'm learning Emacs for the sole purpose of coding Lisp.
[05:48] <Mackie_Messer> notepad
[05:48] <thoreauputic> http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/edistheeditor.txt
[05:48] <EvilIdler> Toggling switches at the front panel > every editor :)
[05:48] <Mackie_Messer> sorry, i just wanna say anything
[05:48] <Vjaz> shopgirl: You've never heard of Emacs?
[05:48] <Mackie_Messer> ;-)
[05:48] <shopgirl> vjaz no
[05:48] <Vjaz> shopgirl: Go see Applications->Accessories->Emacs on your Ubuntu.  Ok, could be.
[05:50] <wdh> shopgirl, auto-completion is nice ;)
[05:50] <dcraven> Vjaz: I don't think so. I don't seem to have it.
[05:50] <Vjaz> dcraven: I was actually thinking that it was installed by default, because I indeed had it installed despite being a Vi-user.
[05:50] <Vjaz> dcraven: Ok.
[05:50] <shopgirl> wot u up 2 ? vjaz?
[05:50] <thoreauputic> dcraven: it was installed by default in warty
[05:50] <Vjaz> shopgirl: You already asked me.
[05:50] <dcraven> thoreauputic: I see.
[05:51] <shopgirl> wot den vjaz ?
[05:51] <thoreauputic> dcraven: the wim boys won for hoary, it seems :)
[05:51] <thoreauputic> *vim
[05:51] <dcraven> Reading what shopgirl writes in here makes my head hurt.
[05:51] <Vjaz> shopgirl: I'm learning how to use Emacs, the text editor.
[05:51] <fsapo> dcraven, same here
[05:51] <shopgirl> ow
[05:51] <dcraven> It's some kind of code I think.  :D
[05:55] <shopgirl> wdh : wot u on about ?
[05:55] <Vjaz> shopgirl: Are you by any chance a bot?
[05:55] <thoreauputic> dcraven: yes, to be charitable I agree :)
[05:55] <Echylo> bots are smart Vjaz
[05:55] <wdh> shopgirl, if i only understood what you ment :)
[05:55] <dcraven> Echylo: Probably not the best place to pick up.
[05:55] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: i lost you before
[05:55] <Vjaz> Echylo: Not necessarily.
[05:56] <shopgirl> no!! i hate bots!!
[05:56] <Echylo> no dcraven , no need for ;)
[05:56] <graabein> hi!
[05:56] <spiral> hi
[05:56] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: Yeah, that's okay. You got your wifi up and running?
[05:56] <Vjaz> Echylo: I actually read this article on some guy who modified Eliza to talk in l33tsp33k and act like a teenage 13 year old girl.
[05:56] <ivoks> thoreauputic u again :)
[05:56] <shopgirl> how olsd
[05:56] <Echylo> lel
[05:56] <Echylo> she's not eliza
[05:56] <Echylo> :p
[05:56] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: yup! no idea how though
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> then it refused to talk to an old man like him.
[05:56] <thoreauputic> ivoks: there's no escape! mwuhahaha!
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:56] <Echylo> eliza was cool at least
[05:56] <karljp> dcraven: and mail-notification does what when it's installed?
[05:57] <Mahl> So how do I mount .bin files within linux?   mount -t iso9660 x.bin /media/x dont work....
[05:57] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: i managed to fix it all up through that gui
[05:57] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: Cool. I knew it would work!
[05:57] <jacquesmerde> networks tool
[05:57] <Vjaz> Echylo: Yeah. Anyways, this Eliza-mod was convincing, because everyone expected 13-year old teen girls to act dumb.
[05:57] <shopgirl> how old r u vjaz?
[05:57] <dcraven> karljp: Checks for new messages... gmail, IMAP, POP etc..
[05:57] <Mahl> *So how do I mount .bin files within linux?   mount -o loop -t iso9660 x.bin /media/x dont work....
[05:57] <Echylo> shopgirl, this is not a recruiting channel for boys
[05:57] <jacquesmerde> i have no idea why i had to use that gui tool to get wlan0 from iwconfig to ifconfig. i'd be interested to know how to replicate what the gui did without the gui
[05:57] <bob2> that's because it's not an iso-9660 filesystem
[05:57] <neighborlee> does anyone know if mailmerge will work and if so what other apps I might need to get it working ( openoffice and evolution ) ???
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Mahl,  you use the loop back filesystem thing to mount files like that.. and you may need to convert the .bin to a real iso
[05:57] <Echylo> go to #debian or so
[05:57] <karljp> ahh, I need to run it set it up, "setting up" didn't do it
[05:57] <Rorqual_Celine> @toute
[05:57] <bob2> it's a silly made up windows format
[05:57] <dcraven> karljp: System, Preferences, Mail Notification
[05:58] <Mackie_Messer> *woah* a hornet in my room! *alert*
[05:58] <Echylo> lel
[05:58] <bob2> Mahl: use bchunk to convert it to a useful format
[05:58] <ivoks> neighborlee evolutio+openoffce is ok
[05:58] <Mahl> bob2,  and Dr_Willis  will I have to convert it?
[05:58] <Mahl> Ok thank you :)
[05:58] <manu-972> Anyone here could answer some questions about HW wifi kill switch (I am stuck with some stupid problem)
[05:58] <Vjaz> shopgirl: I don't think that's all that relevant.
[05:58] <fsapo> Mahl, did you do a modprobe loop before it?
[05:58] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: btw, i'm really impressed with hoary. i tried warty when it came out, and wasnt too impressed, but hoary has come a long way
[05:58] <neighborlee> ivoks, no I can't get mailmerge working is my point
[05:58] <Nalioth> Mahl what kind of bin is it?
[05:58] <neighborlee> ivoks, do you know how ?
[05:58] <ivoks> neighborlee define mailmerge :)
[05:58] <bob2> manu-972: way better to just ask your question
[05:58] <cikilin> hello
[05:59] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: there is a wiki page here that explains both gui and CLI I think --> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto
[05:59] <karljp> what is the name of the top panel? so that I can restart it?
[05:59] <WeirdAl> hello.
[05:59] <neighborlee> ivoks, merging addy database with OO to use it for  mailing purposes ( forms, address labels, etc.)
[05:59] <bob2> karljp: gnome-panel
[05:59] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: Yeah. I never had Warty, but I understand there is a bid difference.
[05:59] <WeirdAl> Just installed Enemy Territory, and whenever I run it it tells me I'm using software Mesa.
[05:59] <neighborlee> ivoks, I found a forum post on google saying how its done but I can not reproduce it here in  ubuntu
[05:59] <manu-972>  bob2: Ok here it is: I had FC3 on my laptop (HP DV1000) and HW kill switch was working w/ no problem
[05:59] <thoreauputic> karljp: gnome-panel ( but that's both)
[05:59] <WeirdAl> So how do I make it use hardware?
[05:59] <shopgirl> hello bob2
[05:59] <karljp> it detects a panel already running, I guess it means the bottom one
[05:59] <ivoks> neighborlee openoffice.org-evolution package?
[05:59] <bob2> shopgirl: can you please just go away?
[05:59] <neighborlee> ivoks, faik there is no such package
[05:59] <bob2> karljp: pretty sure they're in the same process
[05:59] <cikilin> how can i check this?'Install these packages without verification [y/N] ?'
[05:59] <shopgirl> ok bob2
[05:59] <manu-972> bob2: but with Hoary it works only sometimes (never in X), when I go back in single mode
[06:00] <thoreauputic> karljp: killall gnome-panel
[06:00] <Gianmaria> CarlK: did you write localnetinstall? in wiki I mean is that you, we talked two days ago...
[06:00] <bob2> shopgirl: thanks
[06:00] <ivoks> neighborlee hm... is
[06:00] <bob2> manu-972: differing kernels, I suppose
[06:00] <bob2> manu-972: try asking on the user list
[06:00] <ivoks> neighborlee openoffice.org-evolution - Evolution 2 Addressbook support for OpenOffice.org
[06:00] <neighborlee> ivoks, i'm referring to using 'add data source' from the menu and choosing 'evolution' as source...at least according to google search info...but there is no drop down section for evolution in the list
[06:00] <schasi> which mule client should one use on linux?
[06:00] <dcraven> karljp: mail-notification will only appear in the panel when you have new mail. It's one of the few (only?) projects that uses the notification area as it was intended.
[06:00] <manu-972> bob2: yes perhaps, but perhaps not ;-) because it works in single mode
[06:00] <karljp> hmm, and I cant' delete the last panel to start it from scratch again
[06:01] <ivoks> neighborlee let me try... writer?
[06:01] <neighborlee> ivoks, oh ic I misundetstood then..okay checking
[06:01] <neighborlee> ivoks, yup writer..anyway ,,checking for the package you mentioned
[06:01] <Hannes_> schasi: amule
[06:01] <karljp> hmm, how can I log out from the cli, now that I've lost my top panel?
[06:02] <neighborlee> ivoks, okay thx found it..i'd never have thought to look in apt based on google search results ;-))
[06:02] <manu-972> bob2: so it seems that Hoary kernel handles it but something else prevents that sometimes (eg when in X session)
[06:02] <dcraven> karljp: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace will get you out, by restarting X.
[06:02] <karljp> how come that sometimes restarts, and sometimes just kills?
[06:02] <ivoks> neighborlee :) i have evolution
[06:02] <manu-972> bob2: so I guess my question is: what can disable an HW switch from working
[06:02] <neighborlee> ivoks, heh
[06:03] <boredofthesane> karljp: because GDM won't always kick in
[06:03] <dcraven> karljp: Buggy gdm maybe?
[06:03] <boredofthesane> oops lost him
[06:03] <Mahl> converting to ISO
[06:03] <Mahl> thanks
[06:03] <Mahl> :)
[06:03] <fsapo> is there a way to turn off the channel msgs link "somebody has quit" and all those stuff? its really anoying
[06:04] <dcraven> fsapo: depends on the client.
[06:04] <fsapo> x-chat
[06:04] <karljp> ok, now I've lost the top panel altogether :)
[06:04] <dcraven> fsapo: I dunno.
[06:04] <WeirdAl> I've installed the drivers for my ATI, but apparently OpenGL is still in software Mesa. How do I change it to hardware?
[06:04] <fsapo> dcraven, ok thanx anyway
[06:04] <ivoks> WeirdAl build kernel modul?
[06:04] <dcraven> karljp: I think you can add a new panel by right-clicking on whatever panel is left.
[06:05] <ivoks> WeirdAl change xorg.conf
[06:05] <ivoks> WeirdAl load fglrx and restart X
[06:05] <WeirdAl> I did that. I've done what it says on the ubuntu wikipage.
[06:05] <Gianmaria> anyone knows about fttpd install? I can't start tftpd daemon, I get an address in use error...
[06:05] <dcraven> fsapo: I'm sure there are probably filters somewhere in prefs.
[06:05] <WeirdAl> How do I load fglrx?
[06:05] <ivoks> WeirdAl lsmod | grep fglrx?
[06:05] <fsapo> dcraven, i m searching for it but cant find :(
[06:06] <WeirdAl> fglrx 229568 0
[06:06] <ivoks> glxinfo | grep vendor
[06:06] <karljp> oh, excellent, now I get to rebuild the top panel by hand
[06:06] <dcraven> karljp: Did you delete it yourself?
[06:07] <karljp> yeah, I thought I was deleting an item I'd added to the panel
[06:07] <karljp> but I'd rightclicked on the wrong area
[06:07] <reagleBRKLN> i'm trying to use smb4k to mount a smb share but it says "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)"
[06:07] <Kisain> VMware-workstation-5.0.0-13124.tar.gz
[06:07] <ivoks> weirdal grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:07] <WeirdAl> ivoks, server SGI, client ATI, OpenGL vendor Mesa project www.mesa3d.org
[06:07] <Kisain> anyone know how to open and install that filke?
[06:07] <dcraven> karljp: Oops.. I thought a warning popped up prior to deleting a panel. I guess not.
[06:07] <karljp> it does
[06:07] <reagleBRKLN> how do i do that
[06:07] <lodd> How do I change locale from UTF-8 to iso8859-15?
[06:07] <karljp> but I'd added a notification panel
[06:07] <reagleBRKLN> also, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DerootificationStatus makes me think suid is not needed?
[06:07] <dcraven> karljp: dummy :)
[06:07] <karljp> so I thought I was deleting that.
[06:07] <WeirdAl> ivoks, Driver "fglrx"
[06:07] <Q_Continuum> heh
[06:08] <ivoks> WeirdAl hm... did u restart X?
[06:08] <WeirdAl> restarted my computer.
[06:08] <karljp> it's not that clear what a panel is vs all the other sub bits
[06:08] <dcraven> karljp: Those messages are sometimes confusing, I'll agree.
[06:08] <edsuom> Just installed (k)ubuntu after years of messing with RH 8 & 9, Gentoo, and Debian. Very impressed.
[06:08] <ivoks> WeirdAl do u have under Modules in xorg.conf OpenGL?
[06:08] <Kisain> anyone know how to open this file VMware-workstation-5.0.0-13124.tar.gz?
[06:08] <dcraven> karljp: I'm just jerkin' your chain ;P
[06:08] <ivoks> edsuom i agree
[06:08] <wasabi_> Kisain, it's a tar file.  When browsing my filesystem, everytime I click on a folder, the window im browsing in resizes. How can I put a stop to this?
[06:09] <boredofthesane> Leonid Kachiyan RIP
[06:09] <Nalioth> bob2 had apt build from source those gstreamer faac faac plugs, and then had to rebuild rhythmbox but it all works now. thank you and thank crimsun
[06:10] <wasabi_> part, it doesn't resize. A new window opens.
[06:10] <WeirdAl> ivoks, commented it out. Should I insert a line for OpenGL?
[06:10] <dcraven> part: nautilus remembers the size of the window it last displayed any particular folder in. Adjust the window size for that folder, and it will open at that size the next time you revisit that folder.
[06:10] <Mackie_Messer> Option	"UseInternalAGPGART"	"no"       in xorg.conf for ati to work after installing fglrx via apt
[06:10] <dcraven> part: Welcome to spatial file management. :)
[06:10] <part> right right... but I don't wnat it to remember
[06:11] <jacquesmerde> question, how hard is it to let a printer on an ubuntu machine be usable by other linux machines on its lan? how about windows computers on its lan?
[06:11] <ivoks> WeirdAl u should restart X
[06:11] <Q_Continuum> Messer, is there a list of those options for fglrx tweaking?
[06:11] <part> I want it to act like Windows... have one window open at a time.. and not resize when Im browsing through folders
[06:11] <dcraven> part: You can disable spatial mode permanently if you prefer the browser mode.
[06:11] <jacquesmerde> Q_Continuum: thanks man, your inf file worked a treat
[06:11] <fsapo> part, why just you use just one window instead of openning another?
[06:11] <Mackie_Messer> don't know Q_Continuum, sorry
[06:11] <Q_Continuum> glad to help :-)
[06:12] <part> fsabo, i'm used to this.. for example.. I have the window in the center of the screen... the new window opens in the top left side of the screen
[06:12] <part> it's just annoying
[06:12] <fsapo> part, thats why i just use one window ;)
[06:12] <fsapo> part, when i click on a folder it just opens in the same window
[06:12] <part> fsapo, where are the settings for this?
[06:13] <WeirdAl> ivoks, it's still saying I'm using software Mesa when I run ET
[06:13] <part> "Always open in browser window" ?
[06:13] <dcraven> part: You can enable browser mode by default if you set the /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_browser to true in gconf-editor.
[06:13] <thoreauputic> part: choose browser mode inthe prefs behaviour section
[06:13] <tritium> part: Edit->Preferences->Behavior->"Always open in browser windows"
[06:14] <part> gotcha!
[06:14] <part> thank you all!
[06:14] <fsapo> part, Applications -> system tools -> configuration Editor -> Apps -> Nautilus -> Preferences and check always use browser
[06:14] <part> I love it now
[06:14] <part> :)
[06:14] <tritium> no need to use gconf editor ;)
[06:14] <Taliesin`> and we love you Part :P
[06:14] <ivoks> WeirdAl hm...
[06:14] <fsapo> tritium, hehe i know the looong path :D
[06:14] <part> owww.. we are all humans!! We must stick together against the aliens
[06:14] <part> lol
[06:14] <ivoks> WeirdAl  ls -dl /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[06:14] <Mackie_Messer> lol, i would write the same but my install is german and i dont know the translation, fsapo
[06:15] <dcraven> thoreauputic: I never knew that was available outside of gconf-editor, cool.
[06:15] <Taliesin`> aliens = M$
[06:15] <Taliesin`> :P
[06:15] <josh42> can anyone tell me the best "make" flags for an athlon64 system?
[06:15] <ivoks> Pythos where does booting stops?
[06:15] <fsapo> Mackie_Messer, =]
[06:15] <WeirdAl> hang on, I'll load x-chat on the other computer. Make it easer.
[06:15] <josh42> (trying to do my first compile :) )
[06:15] <thoreauputic> dcraven: first thing I looked for :)
[06:15] <Keizer> Sup guys
[06:15] <thoreauputic> dcraven: I'm not a spatial fan
[06:16] <Keizer> Does Cups have a network printer search feature?
[06:16] <fsapo> Mackie_Messer, i m in brazil here but i dont like portuguese so i unstalled in english ;P
[06:16] <dcraven> thoreauputic: It makes a very nice image previewer though :)
[06:16] <thoreauputic> dcraven: I use feh :)
[06:16] <tritium> Keizer, yes.  Global Settings->Detect LAN Printers
[06:16] <Mackie_Messer> *yes* thats cool, english is not really a problem, but if i can use german, i do it ;-) fsapo
[06:17] <dcraven> thoreauputic: What is feh?
[06:17] <thoreauputic> dcraven: actually I use rox filer in preference to nautilus
[06:17] <dcraven> thoreauputic: Ahh. I see.
[06:17] <WeirdAl> ivoks: that made lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 12 2005-04-06 20:21 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.2
[06:17] <Mackie_Messer> Keizer Sozse?
[06:17] <fsapo> Mackie_Messer, ;) the problem in using portuguese is: We dont have ANY information about ubuntu in portuguese.. so its a problem when you need to follow a how-to or something
[06:17] <thoreauputic> dcraven: feh is an image app - very fast and light ( apt-cache show feh)
[06:17] <ivoks> WeirdAl there u go...
[06:18] <Keizer> Yessir
[06:18] <Keizer> tritium, I think it's searching.... But I have two printers shared on the network and neither were found heh
[06:18] <ivoks> WeirdAl and ls -dl libGL.so.1.2?
[06:18] <WeirdAl> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 25 2005-04-06 20:21 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 -> ../X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[06:18] <dcraven> thoreauputic: sounds interesting.
[06:18] <ivoks> WeirdAl that's wrong
[06:18] <ivoks> WeirdAl it should point on ATI's opengl
[06:18] <Mackie_Messer> ohh, thats a problem, right. german is well known, but often i follow english howtos and conf.files...
[06:19] <WeirdAl> aha.
[06:19] <ivoks> WeirdAl did u install xorg-driver-fglrx?
[06:19] <Phr0stByte> It seems that video players are seriously in jeopardy right now!!!
[06:19] <WeirdAl> Yes.
[06:19] <ivoks> WeirdAl go to /usr/lib
[06:19] <ivoks> WeirdAl and check out all libGL.*
[06:19] <Kisain> anyone know how to install a .tar.bz2 file?
[06:20] <ivoks> WeirdAl for examle, nvidia driver creates: libGL.so.1.0.7174
[06:20] <WeirdAl> ivoks: there's .so.1 and .so.1.2
[06:20] <WeirdAl> there's also libGLU.so.1.3
[06:20] <WeirdAl> abd .1
[06:20] <WeirdAl> and*
[06:20] <Mackie_Messer> anyone knows a good desktop blogging tool like w.bloggar that works with b2evolution? blogtk doesnt work :-(
[06:20] <ivoks> WeirdAl then go to /usr/X11R6/lib
[06:20] <thoreauputic> Kisain: that's kind of the wrong question...
[06:21] <ivoks> WeirdAl and check out libGL there
[06:21] <thoreauputic> Kisain: it depends
[06:21] <ivoks> WeirdAl there should be one from ATI
[06:21] <Rydekull> o_O WeirdAl that's like my favourite artist :P
[06:21] <Nalioth> Kisain, what is in it?
[06:22] <WeirdAl> ivoks: there's libGL.so.1, which points to libGL.so.1.2
[06:22] <ivoks> WeirdAl u didn't install fglrx opengl driver
[06:23] <Nalioth> l8r folks
[06:23] <Nalioth> nap time
[06:23] <ivoks> WeirdAl end of story
[06:23] <lapo> hi
[06:23] <WeirdAl> xorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version.
[06:23] <thoreauputic> Kisain: is it source code ? Your *.tar.bz2 ?
[06:24] <WeirdAl> according to apt-get, that is.
[06:24] <Mackie_Messer> did you set the option Option "UsInternalAGPGART" No in xorg.conf, WeirdAl ?
[06:24] <ivoks> WeirdAl dpkg -S /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[06:24] <ivoks> WeirdAl dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[06:25] <WeirdAl> OK done those two. Restart X?
[06:25] <ivoks> WeirdAl what it says?
[06:25] <WeirdAl> #flood
[06:25] <ivoks> WeirdAl does it says xorg-driver-fglrx or xlibmesa-gl?
[06:26] <lodd> I have a huge problem, how do I change from UTF-8 to iso8859-15
[06:26] <WeirdAl> oh
[06:26] <WeirdAl> both
[06:26] <Mackie_Messer> where, lodd ?
[06:26] <ivoks> WeirdAl ?
[06:26] <WeirdAl> for each.
[06:26] <lodd> Consoles
[06:26] <thoreauputic> ivoks: xlibmesa-gl  is what it returns her ( ob=ne of them anyway)
[06:26] <WeirdAl> xorg-driver-fglrx, xlibmesa-gl: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[06:26] <Mackie_Messer> ohh, don't know, sorry
[06:26] <thoreauputic> oops
[06:27] <ivoks> WeirdAl aptitude purge xlibmesa-gl
[06:27] <veleno> do i find somewhere how latest release support (or not support) my ibm thinkpad t42 ?
[06:27] <ivoks> i don't know how ATI works
[06:27] <lodd> Or in the whole OS
[06:27] <bob2> veleno: you need to be more specific
[06:27] <lodd> I don't care as long as I get my ''
[06:27] <Mackie_Messer>
[06:27] <bob2> veleno: perhaps you mean wiki.ubuntu.com/PMTestingResults
[06:27] <WeirdAl> OK, purged
[06:28] <lambic> anyone know why cron.daily gives me this every day: fatal error: updatedb: create_db(): rename: No such file or directory?
[06:29] <josh42> lambin; what happens when you run updatedb manually?
[06:29] <lambic> it works ok
[06:29] <josh42> *lambic
[06:29] <aeho> Anyone here with experience in running steam with cvscedega?
[06:29] <ivoks> WeirdAl apt-get --reinstall install xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:29] <bob2> aeho: #cedega
[06:29] <wezzer> hey
[06:29] <josh42> what's your cron job running?
[06:29] <bob2> aeho: or whatever support your money bought you
[06:29] <lambic> run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
[06:29] <aeho> I said cvscedega
[06:30] <wezzer> should I use dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg or fglrxconf ?
[06:30] <josh42> lambic; Ok, but what cronjob or script is running that does the updatedb?
[06:30] <WeirdAl> ivoks: done.
[06:30] <lambic> oh, /etc/cron.daily/slocate, which just runs updatedb
[06:30] <josh42> fglrxconf < more comprehensive
[06:30] <ivoks> WeirdAl glxinfo
[06:31] <WeirdAl> command not found
[06:31] <Mackie_Messer> fglrxinfo
[06:31] <ivoks> lol
[06:31] <ivoks> then apt-get install xlibmesa-gl
[06:31] <WeirdAl> :-)
[06:31] <ivoks> :)
[06:31] <Mackie_Messer> :)
[06:32] <WeirdAl> it installed that with xorg-diver-fglrx anyway
[06:32] <WeirdAl> r
[06:32] <josh42> WeirdAl: What problem are you having? config of an ati card
[06:32] <WeirdAl> Yeah, it's reporting that it's using software Mesa and I want it to use hardware.
[06:32] <WeirdAl> er. Where was I?
[06:32] <josh42> lambic; Then I'm not sure.. if there are no switches, and no reason for it to do anything different; it shouldn't.. are the permissions ok?
[06:33] <bob2> shopgirl: come on
[06:33] <josh42> WeirdAl; ok, I'm going to watch you.. I'm having the same problem :)
[06:33] <bob2> shopgirl: you really have nothing better to do with your time?
[06:33] <karljp> anyone know how to get a default gnome-panel back?
[06:33] <wdh> System -> administration -> shared folders seems to freeze when loading it.. anyone has any ideas on how to solve this? i would like to use it to configure samba
[06:34] <shopgirl> bob2 im just cheaking if someone i no is on now
[06:34] <thoreauputic> karljp: a bit drastic, but you can move your ~/.gnome and .gnome2 files and restart...
[06:34] <WeirdAl> OK...
[06:34] <WeirdAl> I ran fglrxconf
[06:34] <WeirdAl> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[06:34] <WeirdAl> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[06:34] <WeirdAl> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:34] <WeirdAl> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[06:34] <ivoks> WeirdAl gime the URL
[06:34] <ivoks> WeirdAl of the wiki
[06:35] <bob2> wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:35] <lambic> script slocate is 755, binary slocate is 755 group suid, db is 600
[06:35] <WeirdAl> http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:35] <karljp> well, I've basically not touched anything so that might be what I need to do :)
[06:35] <thoreauputic> karljp: should work OK - just logout/login afterwards
[06:35] <lambic> cd /usr/slib
[06:35] <lambic> oops :)
[06:35] <josh42> can anyone tell me the best "make" flags for an athlon64 system?
[06:36] <bob2> josh42: the defaults
[06:36] <bob2> this isn't gentoo
[06:36] <WeirdAl> Dammit, my ircd stopped working.
[06:36] <ivoks> WeirdAl did u change XF86Config-4 or xorg.conf?
[06:36] <WeirdAl> xorg.conf
[06:37] <josh42> bob2: I'm going to be compiling gimpshop, and I've seen some optimization impovment mentions around.. 15%+
[06:37] <WeirdAl> hey
[06:37] <WeirdAl> That didn't say that last time.
[06:37] <bob2> josh42: then find out what they used
[06:37] <veleno> bob2: not only power management. i only would like to know if video, audio, network cards are supported or not. all i know is the model number, which is: 2374-VMN
[06:37] <WeirdAl> oh
[06:37] <WeirdAl> Yes it did...
[06:37] <ivoks> ?
[06:37] <josh42> bob2: lol - unfortunately not that easy
[06:37] <WeirdAl> Just then, I read the warty bit.
[06:37] <bob2> josh42: why?
[06:37] <WeirdAl> When I did it I read the Hoary bit :-p
[06:37] <Gianmaria> anyone knows about fttpd install? I can't start tftpd daemon, I get an address in use error...
[06:37] <bob2> veleno: no, no one can help you
[06:38] <bob2> veleno: try linux-laptops.net
[06:38] <ivoks> WeirdAl u use hoary or wharty?
[06:38] <WeirdAl> hoary
[06:38] <XplOzIon> hi
[06:38] <josh42> bob2: Looked.. ppl aren't saying, and I dont have contact info
[06:38] <lambic> hmm I just noticed updatedb is still running and apparently un-killable
[06:38] <bob2> don't kill it
[06:38] <bob2> it will take a while to run
[06:39] <lambic> 24 hours?
[06:39] <bob2> but it is killable, unless your disk is broken
[06:39] <ivoks> WeirdAl and u use xorg
[06:39] <Taliesin`> (Gianmaria): their is a guide on how to set it up on the ubuntu wiki
[06:39] <XplOzIon> can anyone help me with this error: error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem (thats the error i get when i run quake3 and change the resolution
[06:39] <WeirdAl> Well I haven't changed anything, so I guess so
[06:39] <lambic> it's ignoring -9
[06:39] <WeirdAl> I just installed-and-used
[06:39] <Q_Continuum> then I get to play on the new box ^.^
[06:39] <karljp> moving .gconf .gconfd .gnome and .gnome2 out of the way and restarting doesn't work either :(
[06:39] <Q_Continuum> Pentium D 3.2GHz Dual core w/HT
[06:39] <josh42> WierdAl: I wonder if you have the same issue I do: I ran through the wiki, did everything, and the log complains (and shows fail) because of xfree not being installed
[06:40] <karljp> no menus for me!
[06:40] <karljp> and now it's time to leave,
[06:40] <ivoks> WeirdAl take a look at your logs
[06:40] <geppy> I can't get VMWare Workstation 5.0 to install; it won't accept my kernel headers.
[06:40] <karljp> so thisjust has to stay busted for a while.
[06:40] <ivoks> WeirdAl /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:40] <Q_Continuum> ATI Radeon x850.  intel just sent it to him.  NOT FAIR.
[06:40] <thoreauputic> karljp: starting to sound a bit serious...
[06:40] <Taliesin`> (Gianmaria): http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LocalNetInstall
[06:41] <Taliesin`> shows you how to setup TFTP + Apache2 to do a NetBoot install from a PXE Capable Network card
[06:41] <veleno> bob2: i found http://aaltonen.us/archive/2005/03/02/ubuntu-linux-on-the-ibm-thinkpad-t42/
[06:41] <WeirdAl> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM"
[06:41] <WeirdAl> :-|
[06:41] <XplOzIon> error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem Help anyone?
[06:42] <geppy> XplOzIon: Do you have a GeForce?
[06:42] <XplOzIon> geppy, ye
[06:42] <ivoks> WeirdAl well, on that wiki page u have something about AGP
[06:42] <shopgirl> wot u all up 2 ?
[06:42] <geppy> XplOzIon: go install all of the nvidia packages and run the configurator
[06:42] <Taliesin`> Runs beautifully with buntu 5.04, did a PXE NetBoot Install on that, was deffinatly a different way to install :>
[06:42] <shopgirl> is cusco dere ?
[06:42] <bob2> shopgirl: come on
[06:42] <XplOzIon> geppy, i already have em
[06:43] <mcquaid> hello all
[06:43] <geppy> XplOzIon: did you install them and configure the driver?
[06:43] <WeirdAl> Aha
[06:43] <mcquaid> ok i've installed ubuntu on two systems that have nvidia and can't get nvidia drivers to survive a reboot
[06:43] <XplOzIon> geppy, i think so. Let me check
[06:43] <WeirdAl> Says I have to reboot.
[06:43] <ivoks> If your Xorg.0.log reveals troubles when initialising AGP, put this in the Device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
[06:43] <WeirdAl> bbiab
[06:43] <Gianmaria> Taliesin`:thats exactly what I'm trying to do but I can't start tftpd...help :-))
[06:43] <mcquaid> one of the systems i used the ubuntu nvidia glx pkg, the other i just grabbed the drivers from nvidias site but same result
[06:44] <Taliesin`> what error you getting?
[06:44] <Taliesin`> (Gianmaria): what error does it give?
[06:44] <mcquaid> from what i've read i think it's the vesafb module that could be the conflict
[06:44] <ivoks> what an idiot
[06:44] <mcquaid> how do i stop the vesafb module from loading?
[06:44] <Gianmaria> Taliesin`: address already in use or can't bind to non socket, every other service works great machine is fine I guess..
[06:45] <geppy> Vmware, anyone?
[06:45] <Gianmaria> Taliesin` - actually says local address already in use
[06:45] <Q_Continuum> Vmware = nice
[06:45] <Taliesin`> when does it give that error, on the machine your installing on, or when you start DHCP?
[06:45] <Q_Continuum> haven't used it in over a year though
[06:45] <Taliesin`> when you start TFTP?
[06:46] <mcquaid> also why is the kernel version 2.6.10-7 but the headers are 2.6.10-34? shouldnt they the same
[06:46] <ivoks> ah...
[06:46] <Gianmaria> Taliesin` - on the server, dhcp is running fine but tftpd does not start
[06:46] <dcraven> geppy: No thank you.
[06:46] <Burgundavia> mcquaid, the number after the - is just the number of ubuntu/debian revisions
[06:46] <Burgundavia> mcquaid, the number before the dash is the imporant one
[06:46] <mcquaid> actually whats more weird is the headers pkg name is 2.6.10-5 but it's version is listed as -34
[06:47] <lauri_> Anyone installed macromedia flash on 64bit ubuntu?
[06:47] <geppy> dcraven: Erm, okay.
[06:47] <WeirdAl> OK, now X didn't load at all.
[06:47] <mcquaid> Burgundavia, yes i'm aware that reflects the revisions, i'd still expect them to be in sync
[06:47] <ivoks> WeirdAl what did i say last?
[06:47] <ivoks> If your Xorg.0.log reveals troubles when initialising AGP, put this in the Device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
[06:47] <ompaul> geppy, if you stick with linux and linux then XEN or UML is the way to go, XEN is getting rave reviews
[06:47] <Q_Continuum> HAHAHAHAHA good luck lauri_ if you get it working, do speak up.  You'd be the savior of millions.
[06:47] <WeirdAl> Yes, I did that.
[06:47] <lauri_> lol
[06:47] <mcquaid> how could you have 34 revisions of the headers and only 7 revisiions of the kernel?
[06:47] <Taliesin`> (Gianmaria): that would genreally tell me TFTPd is alredy unnung
[06:47] <WeirdAl> And then I rebooted, and now it won't work.
[06:47] <mcquaid> doesn't make sense
[06:47] <WeirdAl> I'm in console mode
[06:47] <ivoks> WeirdAl check out log
[06:47] <Burgundavia> the changelog will tell you why
[06:47] <Q_Continuum> and then we wouldn't be hating Macromedia as much.
[06:47] <WeirdAl> Remind me where it is?
[06:47] <Taliesin`> try running 'ps auxww|grep tftp' and see if you see anything but that command show up on screen
[06:48] <ivoks>  where all logs are, in /var/log
[06:48] <Q_Continuum> and then I could focus my hate on the sl-modem drivers being statically linked to the i386 kernel ^.^
[06:48] <josh42> lauri_: Just convince all the sites to use svg instead.. might be easier ;)
[06:48] <WeirdAl> oh
[06:48] <geppy> ompaul: Thanks!
[06:48] <Gianmaria> Taliesin`: ok , but when i nmap localhost port 69 is not open...
[06:48] <XplOzIon> geppy, it gives me same problem, and i have everything i said installed
[06:48] <Taliesin`> the running tftp may already of died
[06:48] <Taliesin`> or hasnt bound properly
[06:48] <tritium> mcquaid: the -# are merely the build numbers.
[06:48] <ivoks> Q_Continuum build ur own, i did
[06:48] <jacquesmerde> i followed the ubuntu faq on howto share a printer on a lan....all i did was edit a couple of lines in cupsd.conf....how is it sharing it?? samba???
[06:48] <geppy> XplOzIon: Go reboot.
[06:48] <part> how do I enable synaptic to consider the online repositories?
[06:48] <lauri_> josh42, what is svg?
[06:48] <Taliesin`> you also need to make sure you start tftpd as root
[06:49] <Taliesin`> else it cant use port 69
[06:49] <XplOzIon> geppy, i just did
[06:49] <Burgundavia> part, what sort of repos?
[06:49] <geppy> XplOzIon: Did you read the wiki stuff?
[06:49] <XplOzIon> geppy, i did quake3 +set r_gldriver /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[06:49] <Q_Continuum> ivoks, I'm on highspeed anytime I'm not sleeping anyway (house only good for sleep and food) so it's not a problem...I just love to have something to whine about lol
[06:49] <mcquaid> yes i know they are the build numbers, but i'd still expect them to be in sync, if i build the kernel 7 times then my headers would be 7 times as well
[06:49] <Burgundavia> part, it should be enabled for the default ubuntu ones by default
[06:49] <Gianmaria> Taliesin` - I think it's a bound problem but every other service works fine
[06:49] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: Samba isn't necessary to share a printer.
[06:49] <geppy> XplOzIon: I don't see any reason that you could logically have to do that.
[06:49] <WeirdAl> This log file looks identical to what it did last time, ivoks.
[06:49] <part> burgundavia, I read an article where the guy said there are more than 16,000 packages available to be installed when you enable the online repos
[06:49] <Burgundavia> mcquaid, if you kernel doesn't change then there is no need to rebuild it
[06:49] <tritium> mcquaid: no, not really
[06:49] <mcquaid> ok fair enough
[06:49] <WeirdAl> There's no date or time on any of it, which isn't helpful.
[06:49] <part> burgundavia, let me show you the article
[06:50] <Burgundavia> part, ok, you need to enable universe and mulitverse
[06:50] <XplOzIon> geppy, i had to, if not quake would never start
[06:50] <ivoks> WeirdAl last lines are last logs
[06:50] <part> ahh
[06:50] <part> ok
[06:50] <mcquaid> anyway my real question is how do i prevent the vesafb module from loading?
[06:50] <part> let me try that
[06:50] <Taliesin`> (Gianmaria): the two reason tftp wouldnt start for not been able to bind are a) your not root, b) tftp is alredy running or something is using the port
[06:50] <ivoks> WeirdAl look at last line in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:50] <WeirdAl> Yeah, the last lines are complaining about missing fonts.
[06:50] <mcquaid> i believe thats the source of my problems with the nvidia binary
[06:50] <Burgundavia> part, www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats will mention how
[06:50] <Taliesin`> I cant give much more help outside that
[06:50] <ivoks> lol
[06:50] <mcquaid> I can't get the nvidia binary to survive a reboot
[06:50] <ivoks> WeirdAl then go up
[06:50] <geppy> XplOzIon: If that was the logical thing to do, then quake works, right?
[06:50] <geppy> XplOzIon: If that fixed it, you don't have a problem.
[06:50] <part> thank you burgundavia
[06:50] <josh42> WierdAl: Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list! ?
[06:51] <geppy> XplOzIon: If that didn't fix the problem, then I stand by my statement that there's no logical reason to have to do that.
[06:51] <WeirdAl> The first error is "unable to acquire AGP"
[06:51] <jacquesmerde> dcraven: then how do i access the ubuntu machine's printer from another linux computer on the lan??? nfs?
[06:51] <WeirdAl> And just after that, there's the "2D available, 3D not" warning.
[06:51] <dcraven> mcquaid: I think you can stick it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[06:51] <ivoks> WeirdAl lsmod | grep agp
[06:51] <Burgundavia> part, np
[06:51] <Gianmaria> Taliesin`: ok thanks homie
[06:51] <Taliesin`> o.O
[06:51] <WeirdAl> nvidia_agp 7452 1
[06:52] <Taliesin`> No problems,
[06:52] <ivoks> nvidia?!
[06:52] <WeirdAl> agpgard 31784 1 nvidia_agp
[06:52] <ivoks> ah, ok then
[06:52] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: You should be able to pull that off just using Cups. Samba is only needed (I think) to share filesystems between Linux and Windows.
[06:52] <WeirdAl> Yeah, mobo is nvidia chipset.
[06:52] <ivoks> so, u have nvidia chipset
[06:52] <josh42> onboard nvidia that's disabled?
[06:52] <ivoks> WeirdAl search for lines with WW in ur log
[06:53] <mcquaid> i don't get how some distros set up their kernels so nvidia doesn't have probs with vesafb
[06:53] <ivoks> josh42 nvidia AGP chipset, not card
[06:53] <klaym> my amule's crashing all the time randomly. anyone else having the same problem, and have a solution? thanks!
[06:53] <mcquaid> cause it would be nice to have splash screen support
[06:53] <WeirdAl> OK...
[06:53] <mcquaid> but from what i understand without vesafb you can't have splashscreens
[06:53] <ivoks> mcquaid splash is for woosys
[06:53] <mcquaid> ivoks, don't be dumb
[06:53] <WeirdAl> "No matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:2:0:1) found"
[06:54] <ivoks> mcquaid ?
[06:54] <WeirdAl> following which, "board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported"
[06:54] <tbasten> um, i cant seem to get my s3 trio64 to work with linux
[06:54] <mcquaid> it annoys me when people imply splash screens are lame
[06:54] <ivoks> mcquaid FB is ok only for systems that need it
[06:54] <WeirdAl> then "could not detect XFree86 version (query_status=-3)
[06:54] <josh42> mcquaid: it's only the strong anti-MS sentiment
[06:54] <mcquaid> well afaik any system needs it during the boot for splash screens
[06:55] <WeirdAl> And then stuff about no 3D available.
[06:55] <ivoks> mcquaid they breake a) vmware, b) come grap. cards c) create high lattency
[06:55] <mcquaid> josh42, ya i hear ya
[06:55] <ivoks> mcquaid PC doesn't need FB
[06:55] <josh42> WeirdAl: do you have an nforce 3-4?
[06:55] <mcquaid> well it would be nice if vesafb could be loaded for boot up and then unloaded once X takes over
[06:56] <WeirdAl> I don't know what type it is. It's just an nforce in my mind.
[06:56] <ivoks> mcquaid omg, u don't know shit about operating systems, right? :)
[06:56] <tritium> ivoks: please be kind
[06:56] <Burgundavia> ivoks, please stay civil here
[06:56] <josh42> third that emotion
[06:56] <mcquaid> but i'm probably going to recompile the kernal anyways, i don't like it that ubuntu's kern only has generic ide support
[06:56] <ivoks> sorry guys
[06:56] <WeirdAl> I'm hungry.
[06:56] <mcquaid> shouldn't need to force dma with hdparm
[06:57] <WeirdAl> ivoks, I typed out the WWs that seemed relevant.
[06:57] <WeirdAl> i.e. the ones with fglrx in.
[06:57] <ivoks> mcquaid ubuntu's kernel doesn't have only generic support
[06:57] <Burgundavia> the issue is that old drives don't work with dma enabled
[06:57] <dcraven> jacquesmerde: You can add the LAN printer via System, Administration, Printers. The URI notation will likely be http://lan_server_ip:632/printers/printername.
[06:57] <Mackie_Messer> whats wrong with generic ide support?
[06:57] <ivoks> WeirdAl i really don't know..
[06:57] <Q_Continuum> Guys...how good is Ubuntu's support of a chipset that's only been in public release for a week?
[06:57] <Burgundavia> that is why the Ubuntu hardware database exists
[06:57] <ivoks> WeirdAl i installed aits drivers in 3 minutes
[06:57] <ivoks> WeirdAl downloaded from ATIs site and alien it
[06:57] <mcquaid> ivoks, that may be the case but it's only loading ide generic here
[06:57] <ivoks> WeirdAl then dpkg --force-all -i fglrx*deb
[06:58] <mcquaid> so i don't have dma on my cdrom drive
[06:58] <ivoks> mcquaid that's what initrd is for
[06:58] <WeirdAl> alien it?
[06:58] <WeirdAl> whut's that mean?
[06:58] <Q_Continuum> What extra stuff do I need to turn on for this dual-core Pentium D I'm about to install Ubuntu on?
[06:58] <ivoks> WeirdAl apt-cache search alien
[06:58] <ivoks> WeirdAl apt-cache search ^alien$
[06:58] <Q_Continuum> alien = rpm manager for debian based distros
[06:58] <Burgundavia> technically, alient allows conversion between many different package formats
[06:59] <Burgundavia> in many different ways
[06:59] <gunny> alien= rpm converter
[06:59] <Burgundavia> but the most common usage is rpm to deb
[06:59] <josh42> ivoks: what 3d games do you play with that setup?
[06:59] <ivoks> josh42 all?
[06:59] <Q_Continuum> who here has heard of the i955 chipset from Intel?  How well is it supported?
[06:59] <ivoks> josh42 americas army, armagetron, etc...
[06:59] <josh42> ivoks; lol sry, yeah, I meant recent tx
[06:59] <WeirdAl> I'm gonna try this one thing first.
[06:59] <ivoks> josh42 but now i buyed laptop and don't even use my desktop comp... laptop has nvidia
[07:00] <josh42> ivoks; yeah, alot of ppl doing that lately
[07:00] <ivoks> nvidia has much better drivers than ATI
[07:00] <mcquaid> ivoks, how would i instruct it to load the correct ide driver instead of generic
[07:00] <ivoks> ATI is moneyloss on linux
[07:01] <WeirdAl|Foods> So I'm led to believe.
[07:01] <mcquaid> i'd rather avoid a kernel compile if i can
[07:01] <WeirdAl|Foods> But I'm getting a new PC soon.
[07:01] <WeirdAl|Foods> So I'll get a PCIe Nvidia.
[07:01] <ivoks> mcquaid reading initrd's man pages and HOWTOs
[07:01] <tbasten> i cant seem to get my s3 trio64 to work with linux
[07:01] <josh42> WeirdAl; and hope that the kernel has bugless and optimized support for pcie? ;)
[07:01] <mcquaid> ok going to blacklist vesafb and see if it solves nvidia probs
[07:01] <mcquaid> brb
[07:01] <ivoks> mcquaid it won't :)
[07:01] <mcquaid> why won't it
[07:02] <lodd> I've been trying to install Radeon-drivers for an hour now, what do I do with the rpm-file?
[07:02] <Q_Continuum> How well will a x850xt run WoW through cedega on a dual-core HT PD?
[07:02] <WeirdAl|Foods> Gonna have to josh. I won't have AGP
[07:02] <ivoks> mcquaid vesafb loads before hotplug
[07:02] <mcquaid> cause of grub?
[07:02] <lodd> I've read the alien-man, didn't help me much
[07:02] <ivoks> lodd alien fglrx*rpm
[07:02] <ivoks> lodd then dpkg --force-all -i fglrx*.deb
[07:02] <Burgundavia> lodd, why don't you use the fglrx drivers in the repos?
[07:03] <lodd> Repos?
[07:03] <ivoks> Burgundavia aparently, people have problems with them
[07:03] <lodd> I know nothing about linux, please explain
[07:03] <ivoks> lodd put in WinXP CD and restart
[07:03] <ivoks> :)
[07:03] <Burgundavia> ?? ATI
[07:03] <[uhelp] > ati: To setup your xorg binary ati driver see - http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:03] <Burgundavia> follow that advice lodd
[07:03] <ivoks> Burgundavia WeirdAl|Foods didn't manage to get it work with that
[07:04] <bluefoxicy> I got a UPS
[07:04] <Burgundavia> ivoks, on his machine?
[07:04] <bluefoxicy> it has a usb->serial converter and a serial connector
[07:04] <lexxan> ?? ati
[07:04] <mcquaid> ok if blacklisting it won't work, how do i disable vesafb?
[07:04] <lexxan> wtf
[07:04] <dcraven> I don't get that advice..  Located in System --> Administration
[07:05] <ivoks> mcquaid edit ur /boot/menu.lst
[07:05] <lexxan> ?? grub
[07:05] <[uhelp] > grub: Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto -AND- Grub Boot floppy - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy. If you are simply trying to edit your bootup list, timeout or default OS to boot see /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:05] <ivoks> mcquaid and add line video=off
[07:06] <fsapo> lodd, just open synapitc install fglrx and linux-restricted-modules for your kernel
[07:06] <lodd> I know nothing :(
[07:06] <fsapo> lodd, believe me, i have a radeon 9800pro, those ati drivers really sux.. use the ubuntu pre-compiled one
[07:06] <IIIEars> vvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[07:06] <lexxan> lodd goto that link
[07:06] <lexxan> ?? ati
[07:06] <[uhelp] > ati: To setup your xorg binary ati driver see - http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:06] <dcraven> I'm likin' this [uhelp]  dude.. How long has he been here?
[07:06] <ivoks> fsapo lol and thoose aren't ATIs? :)
[07:06] <dcraven> ?? ndiswrapper
[07:06] <[uhelp] > ndiswrapper[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:06] <josh42> fsapo: I tried installing restricted, and it wouldn't let me.. is there another repo besides uni/multi-verse?
[07:06] <lexxan> ** ndis
[07:06] <[uhelp] > Found 1 matches. Sorted: ndis. (0.002s)
[07:07] <dcraven> :( I don't like him anymore.
[07:07] <lexxan> i put him in here a few days ago
[07:07] <lexxan> ?? ndia
[07:07] <[uhelp] > ndia[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:07] <lexxan> ?? ndis
[07:07] <[uhelp] > ndis: Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[07:07] <fsapo> ivoks, yes they are.. but to install the rpm ones you need to compile the kernel module
[07:07] <mcquaid> ivoks, where do i add that exactly?
[07:07] <ivoks> mcquaid figure out... i don't use grub
[07:07] <ivoks> mcquaid under ur kernel image
[07:07] <Mackie_Messer> the bot is really cool, need it in real life
[07:07] <ivoks> people should start reading HOWTOs and man
[07:07] <gfoxiness> i need a hand please to continue install VMware on my sys am on "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]  " and i dont know where is it
[07:08] <ivoks> IRC makes then stoopid :(
[07:08] <Burgundavia> ivoks, the docs are coming along
[07:08] <ivoks> gfoxiness hit ENTER :)
[07:08] <ivoks> Burgundavia ?
[07:08] <gfoxiness> ivoks, its so hard u know that
[07:08] <ivoks> Burgundavia there allready are docs
[07:09] <ivoks> gfoxiness ENTER didn't work?
[07:09] <ivoks> i'm tierd...
[07:09] <fsapo> ivoks, do you have the kernel headers package installed?
[07:09] <gfoxiness> ivoks, The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.
[07:09] <mcquaid> just curious who has nvidia binaries working without problems?
[07:09] <Burgundavia> ivoks, there is a new portal coming to make it easier to read and find
[07:09] <IIIEars> Howtos are great they often show you relevant examples - man pages are only good as a reminder no examples
[07:09] <ivoks> fsapo me? nope...
[07:09] <dcraven> ivoks: IRC may make people a little more dependant, but I doubt it makes them stupid.
[07:09] <gfoxiness> ivoks, am do that b4 i see this msg by hand ;)
[07:09] <fsapo> ivoks, so that's the problem... just install the headers for your current kernel
[07:09] <ivoks> dcraven ok, adicted... and doesn't make them read...
[07:10] <thoreauputic> gfoxiness: it's just offering you a defult location :)
[07:10] <ivoks> fsapo ?
[07:10] <lodd> I still can't change refresh rate :(
[07:10] <ivoks> mcquaid my nvidia works
[07:10] <gfoxiness> thoreauputic, where is it than ?
[07:10] <ivoks> gfoxiness install linux-headers package
[07:10] <IIIEars> << one week and one day using linux! :)
[07:10] <ivoks> fsapo i don't have problems :)
[07:10] <mcquaid> ivoks, and you sitll have the vesafb module loaded?
[07:11] <fsapo> ivoks, the kernel headers package will give you the kernel source
[07:11] <ivoks> mcquaid nope
[07:11] <ivoks> fsapo why would i need them? :)
[07:11] <mcquaid> did you have a simliar problem with it?
[07:11] <pdk001> how to check my free space?
[07:11] <ivoks> fsapo and u are wrong, kernel headers are just headers, not source
[07:11] <gunny> lodd: what does the monitor section of your xorg.con look like? look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:11] <tbasten> um, how come linux doesnt support my s3 trio card?
[07:11] <ivoks> mcquaid nope... it never loaded fb
[07:11] <thoreauputic> fsapo: also kernel-headers are "linux-headers" in ubuntu
[07:12] <mcquaid> thats weird it does here
[07:12] <ivoks> thoreauputic yeah... stoopid move :(
[07:12] <mcquaid> hoary?
[07:12] <fsapo> ivoks, arent you the one who was asking about the C headers file for your kernel?
[07:12] <thoreauputic> ivoks: we've been here before :)
[07:12] <ivoks> fsapo nope :)
[07:12] <fsapo> thoreauputic, yes thats it.. i ve confused everything
[07:12] <ivoks> thoreauputic right ;)
[07:12] <IIIEars> lol
[07:12] <lambic> well I had to reboot to get rid of my stray updatedb process, hate to admit defeat like that
[07:12] <fsapo> ivoks, so.. sorry :( thought that was you haha
[07:12] <ivoks> fsapo go get a coffe :)
[07:13] <fsapo> ivoks, i need to sleep
[07:13] <ivoks> or that
[07:13] <fsapo> ivoks, gfoxiness was the one asking for it
[07:13] <ivoks> mcquaid yep
[07:13] <ivoks> fsapo yes :)
[07:13] <pdk001> would someone know how to check used  hard drive?
[07:14] <IIIEars> format it and fsck? - guessing cuz' i am really new
[07:14] <ivoks> mcquaid build ur own kernel, that's the best move
[07:15] <ivoks> pdk001 listen to it...
[07:15] <ivoks> pdk001 if it's ok, u won't hear a thing
[07:15] <ivoks> pdk001 if it's not, ur ears will hurt
[07:15] <IIIEars> lol
[07:15] <Kisain_> does valves steam work with ubuntu?
[07:15] <ompaulAFK> lambic, did you get to 'sudo killall updatedb' ?
[07:15] <Burgundavia> Kisain_, it might, I have reports that it does with cedega
[07:16] <IIIEars> Kissian - from what i have read yes - it is dependent on cedega
[07:16] <Kisain_> nice
[07:16] <Kisain_> anyone had any luck with installing teamspeak?
[07:16] <lambic> I tried kill -9, always forget about killall, I'm so old school ;)
[07:16] <Mackie_Messer> lol
[07:16] <ompaul> lambic, you did it with sudo?
[07:17] <lambic> yep
[07:17] <Kisain_> i try to install it and it just don't work when i click on it'sicon
[07:17] <thoreauputic> lambic: solaris background? ;)
[07:17] <lambic> older :)
[07:17] <Burgundavia> Kisain_, you need cedega
[07:17] <ivoks> omg... icons
[07:17] <Kisain_> i have cedega
[07:17] <ivoks> i created onw great script for nautilus
[07:17] <ompaul> lambic, BSD or pdp ?
[07:17] <ivoks> for click'n'click generation
[07:17] <Kisain_> can cedega run teamspeak?
[07:17] <gfoxiness> ivoks, thank you for help
[07:17] <Kisain_> cause i have a linux verison of teamspeak
[07:18] <thoreauputic> lambic: I believe killall does what it says on solaris ;-)
[07:18] <gfoxiness> thoreauputic, u too thank you
[07:18] <ivoks> gfoxiness works?
[07:18] <lambic> bsd, sysv
[07:18] <ivoks> slowaris
[07:18] <ompaul> ivoks, that is so wrong, it is so_lart_us
[07:18] <ivoks> :)
[07:18] <ivoks> slonaris
[07:19] <ivoks> "slon" is elephant on croatian
[07:19] <ompaul> ivoks, and that other one is 'open death trap'
[07:19] <Burgundavia> Kisain_, cedega is for running windows game on linux
[07:19] <ivoks> i' tierd...
[07:19] <ivoks> going off
[07:19] <Kisain_> thats what i thought
[07:19] <fsapo> anyone here knows how can i select a audio track and the subtitles in mplayer in the command line?
[07:20] <Kisain_> but when i install teamspeak for linux it dosen't open when i click the icon
[07:20] <ivoks> this is the time of day when rhythmbox kicks in
[07:20] <Kisain_> like it's not there or something
[07:20] <ivoks> bye all
[07:20] <Kisain_> bye
[07:20] <ompaul> cheers
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> oh my god
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> it work
[07:22] <gfoxiness> ivoks, yeah its work "fine now" with out your support "will not;)"
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> the fucking thing actually worked
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> I don't believe this
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> I just put my system on a UPS
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> my monitor was all fuzzy
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> it's crystal clear
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> the thing wtas ugly as hell because of unconditioned power?!
[07:23] <PoopinClumpin> the UPS is filtering your dirty AC voltage
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> yes
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> but I mean I was getting grey blobs for text
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> now I have LCD quality display
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> my power up here must look like ass
[07:24] <IIIEars> wow that had to be hard on the eyes before the first cup of coffee in the morning.. - lol
[07:24] <PoopinClumpin> lcd quality?
[07:24] <PoopinClumpin> is that a contradiction n terms
[07:25] <bluefoxicy> PoopinClumpin:  Active matrix LCD, not dual-scanning passive matrix ;)
[07:25] <ompaul> PoopinClumpin, well you could have lower than LCD so I think not
[07:26] <stromax> ubuntu rocks!
[07:26] <stromax> a big thank you to everybody involved
[07:26] <ikaro> mojn
[07:26] <thoreauputic> another satified customer.... <yawn>..... ;-)
[07:27] <gfoxiness> yeah i see
[07:27] <Kisain_> yes ubuntu does rock i've never been happyer with an os
[07:27] <gfoxiness> :)
[07:27] <Kisain_> nor as my computer ever run as smooth
[07:27] <Kisain_> ^_^
[07:27] <ompaul> hehe
[07:27] <gfoxiness> i think this for sure for human not like other for "101111000"
[07:27] <stromax> been using debian for years. but 'just' as a server os... ubuntu is excellent for the workstation department
[07:27] <IIIEars> why "yawn"? - i tried a dozen distros before Ubuntu none worked - How about a "Pat on the back"?
[07:28] <Kisain_> gives III a pat on the back :)
[07:28] <ompaul> IIIEars, cos in the ubuntu world things tend to do the right thing if you get what I mean
[07:28] <gfoxiness> is there i way to got my fn key work on ubuntu "acer"
[07:28] <thoreauputic> IIIEars: I just meant there are so many satisfied custoners it's getting to the stage where you yawn every time :)
[07:29] <thoreauputic> gfoxiness: give it a lecture and tell it to straighten up :)
[07:29] <lambic> my 60+ year old computer illiterate mother-in-law is happily using Ubuntu, thats how good it is
[07:29] <ReVeReNdoCaBrOn> wolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas
[07:30] <Kisain_> brb getting a new monitor
[07:30] <ReVeReNdoCaBrOn> uops
[07:30] <ReVeReNdoCaBrOn> wrong server XD
[07:30] <doogies> #ubuntu-fr
[07:30] <gfoxiness> thoreauputic, is this #@1### i dont like this thing :)
[07:30] <IIIEars> heh - i have a live cd for my 70 year old mom. - grin
[07:30] <bluefoxicy> oh my god, I can max my volume on my speakers and there's no noise o_o
[07:30] <thoreauputic> gfoxiness: ?
[07:30] <thoreauputic> gfoxiness: oh sorry :)
[07:31] <thoreauputic> not paying attention
[07:31] <IIIEars> If AOL would be nice enough to support linux she wouldn't use windows.
[07:31] <gfoxiness> nice :) more guys here need more cafe
[07:31] <g14> IIEars: Ever heard of Aoldialer?
[07:31] <IIIEars> aolpeng?
[07:32] <ZxC> I use a FAT Partition as a share between my windows and Linux which was about 3gb, it is now 1gb?! I have no idea how this happened. Any ideas?
[07:32] <thoreauputic> gfoxiness: it's after 3AM here :)
[07:32] <stromax> bye
[07:32] <IIIEars> i don't think it supports their content
[07:32] <ompaul> thoreauputic, so I should not ring my brother in law :-)
[07:32] <Mackie_Messer> it 6:37 pm
[07:32] <Mackie_Messer> +s
[07:32] <gfoxiness> thoreauputic, what 3 am :0
[07:32] <ompaul> ntp tells me it is 18:32
[07:33] <thoreauputic> gfoxiness: I run on internet time here ;)
[07:33] <Mackie_Messer> ;-)
[07:33] <gfoxiness> haha
[07:33] <g14> IIIEars: http://www.linspire.com/lindows_products_details.php?package_name=los-aol Aol dialer for linux
[07:33] <gfoxiness> oh good keep a great work up thoreauputic
[07:33] <IIIEars> Great! going to check it out.
[07:33] <Mackie_Messer> where can i see internet time?
[07:33] <g14> IIIEars: And its source so you can build it on ubuntu: http://www.linspire.com/lindows_products_details.php?package_name=los-aol
[07:33] <lodd> What is recommended for viewing a MPEG2-stream over the network?
[07:34] <tbasten> i am getting a really bad synch issue when playing locale movie files
[07:34] <thoreauputic> vlc?
[07:34] <Mackie_Messer> vlc, lodd
[07:34] <ompaul> Mackie_Messer, you need to run ntp and point it to pool.ntp.org
[07:34] <lodd> VLC doesn't work :(
[07:34] <gfoxiness> lodd, save a mony on my home
[07:34] <Mackie_Messer> thanx ompaul
[07:34] <g14> IIIEars: Sorry, that was the wrong link for the source, here is the correct one www.linspire.com/dialersource
[07:34] <ompaul> Mackie_Messer, actually ntpd
[07:34] <themolester> anyone have any ideas what exactly causes the grub error
[07:34] <Mackie_Messer> okay
[07:34] <themolester> when you install grub, and when you boot all it says is grub?
[07:35] <Miteorite> afternoon all. is it alright to use the unstable deb repo for ubuntu?
[07:35] <themolester> and never boots?
[07:35] <themolester> (not a grub menu, not a prompt, just the word grub
[07:35] <gfoxiness> themolester, sound strong
[07:35] <thoreauputic> themolester: grub isn't fully installed is what it means
[07:36] <themolester> thoreauputic what would cause it?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> themolester: you are missing stage 2 or something
[07:36] <themolester> a friend of mine is getting it like every time he installed
[07:36] <gfoxiness> thoreauputic, is this means its not find /boot ?!
[07:36] <thoreauputic> it isn't finding anything I guess
[07:36] <themolester> he installed one distro, diddn't get it (going from windows)
[07:37] <gfoxiness> or is it on diff distro
[07:37] <WeirdAl> Dammit, x won't start now :-(
[07:37] <themolester> then installed ubuntu
[07:37] <themolester> and got it
[07:37] <themolester> then installed the old one, it was still there
[07:37] <noah> i just noticed that somehow my /etc/fstab is missing my swap partition... should i just edit fstab or does ubuntu manage that some other way?
[07:37] <gfoxiness> themolester, override :)
[07:37] <themolester> override?
[07:37] <themolester> whoa... bob2 is here
[07:38] <themolester> heh
[07:38] <themolester> i can now bug you twice as often
[07:38] <themolester> heh
[07:38] <thoreauputic> noah: does sudo fdisk -l list a swap partition?
[07:38] <themolester> he's prolly sleepin
[07:38] <themolester> heh
[07:38] <noah> thoreauputic: yes
[07:38] <fsapo> damn.. i think i need to learn python :(
[07:39] <snader> why is that bad ;-)
[07:39] <fsapo> every program there i try still lack something that i need =/
[07:39] <gfoxiness> themolester, what the old distro u have b4 u install ubuntu
[07:39] <themolester> fsapo and c, and perl, and tcl, and ... and ... and...
[07:39] <ompaul> Miteorite, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KoreanSetupHowto have a quick look there :-) I realise that the nationality may not be correct however it answers your question
[07:39] <themolester> gfoxiness i believe it was fedora c4
[07:39] <thoreauputic> noah: don't know - but adding a swap entry in /etc/fstab is easy enough
[07:39] <ompaul> Miteorite, the answer is actually yes :-)
[07:39] <themolester> whichever the latest was
[07:39] <noah> thoreauputic: k
[07:39] <Drone4four> hello, i'm talking to all of you with the Ubuntu LiveCD -- gnoppix
[07:40] <WeirdAl> Was anyone here watching me try to get my ATI working?
[07:40] <fsapo> i want to convert some ogm file into dvd, but the script dont have any option to use a secondary audio track nor subtitles ;(
[07:40] <lexxan> WeirdAl, did you follow the wiki
[07:40] <Drone4four> why can i not increase the screen reolution beyond 1024x768?
[07:40] <WeirdAl> Yeh.
[07:40] <WeirdAl> Then I got loads of advice.
[07:40] <kleineu> somedy know how to have white text in panel ?
[07:40] <WeirdAl> Now X won't start.
[07:40] <WeirdAl> I'm stuck in console mode.
[07:40] <gfoxiness> thoreauputic, right !
[07:40] <K_Dallas> Drone4four, you might want to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-free86 and adjust the resolution there
[07:41] <ryman> is there any HTML maker for linux ? like dream weaver ?
[07:41] <IIIEars> I don't know enough to make a bootable iso that includes aol dialer plus wine (to access aol chat)
[07:41] <thoreauputic> gfoxiness: are you lagging horribly or did I miss something?
[07:41] <tbasten> How do i get my s3 trio working?
[07:41] <Burgundavia> K_Dallas, hoary uses xorg
[07:41] <ryman> and Flash program like FLash MX ?
[07:41] <K_Dallas> yeah i always forget :)
[07:41] <Drone4four> K_Dallas, you mean i type run that command?
[07:41] <jchillerup> ryman, there's some inbuilt in OOo
[07:41] <K_Dallas> Drone4four, actually sudo that command
[07:42] <ogami1972> hey channel- how long should "sudo apt-key add -" take? i've been hanging for about 3 minutes
[07:42] <Burgundavia> Drone4four, you need dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:42] <WeirdAl> lexxan, do you happen to be a display driver guru? :-s
[07:42] <jchillerup> I don't know if it's good or bad though, Rydekull
[07:42] <tbasten> How do i get my s3 trio working?
[07:42] <jchillerup> ryman,
[07:42] <lexxan> WeirdAl, no.
[07:42] <WeirdAl> oh
[07:42] <kleineu> somedy know how to have white text in panel ?
[07:42] <drac> WeirdAl: Still no luck with fglrx? Post /var/log/Xorg.0.log to www.pastebin.com ..
[07:42] <lexxan> kleineu, goto preferences?
[07:42] <ryman> jchillerup+  ? I want the easy one like Frontpage or Dreamweaver so that my gf can use it
[07:42] <WeirdAl> drac, I can't.
[07:42] <WeirdAl> I'm stuck in console mode.
[07:42] <IIIEars> guessing i would need her computer for a week to set it up - she would scream - lol
[07:42] <ryman> she doesn't know HTML
[07:42] <ompaul> WeirdAl, you could try - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:43] <thoreauputic> tbasten: as far as I know, the last edition of XFree to support s3 trio was about 3.3 or so
[07:43] <drac> WeirdAl: Upload it to some www server, or use gpm and links2 to paste.
[07:43] <ompaul> WeirdAl, that will put you back to the starting point
[07:43] <drac> Without information it's really nasty to start guessing.
[07:43] <thoreauputic> tbasten: but there should be some generic driver that would work
[07:44] <ogami1972> cd /
[07:44] <tanek> where can i get hold of the w32codecs.deb?
[07:45] <lexxan> tanek, apt-get install w32codecs (if you have the marillat repository)
[07:45] <lexxan> ** codec
[07:45] <thoreauputic> lexxan: read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:45] <[uhelp] > Found 1 matches. Sorted: restricted. (0.019s)
[07:45] <thoreauputic> oops
[07:45] <thoreauputic> tanek that was for you
[07:45] <tanek> lexxan: i timeout at marillat ftp :S
[07:46] <ZxC> tanek, if your running Ubuntu64 it won't work. Just in case you are.
[07:46] <lexxan> I had that problem a couple times
[07:47] <lexxan> but if i kept tryin it would lemme in
[07:47] <Miteorite> ompaul: thanks
[07:47] <usual> where in a package would I find a changelog, like if a package was 1.0 and it was upgraded to 1.1
[07:47] <GNAM> how can I made a user that cannot create/modify any file except on his home?
[07:47] <thoreauputic> GNAM: ? that's the default behaviuor
[07:47] <ompaul> Miteorite, np
[07:47] <GNAM> auauau wow
[07:47] <lexxan> tonek
[07:47] <thoreauputic> *behaviour
[07:48] <lexxan> ?? restricted
[07:48] <[uhelp] > restricted: To find out more about java, dvd playing, codecs etc. see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:48] <thoreauputic> GNAM: except for /tmp
[07:48] <lexxan> oops
[07:48] <lexxan> here it is
[07:48] <lexxan> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[07:49] <lexxan> !learn add manualcodec To add w32codecs manually from the mplayer site see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[07:49] <Burgundavia> there is no reason to use that totem howto
[07:50] <le_fille_blonde_> sorry to interupt, newbie here and I cannot figure out how to mount my windows partition
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Burgundavia: I agree
[07:50] <Burgundavia> w32codecs gets all that you need
[07:50] <lexxan> It has the link to w32codecs
[07:50] <lexxan> and he can't get on marillat repo
[07:50] <GNAM> and except for fat32 hd mounted with umask=000
[07:50] <lexxan> !learn add manualcodec To add w32codecs manually from the mplayer site see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[07:50] <GNAM> how can I change this mount?
[07:50] <thoreauputic> le_fille_blonde_: you got the gender wrong methinks
[07:50] <lexxan> ?? ntfs
[07:50] <[uhelp] > ntfs[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:50] <thoreauputic> la fille blonde ?
[07:50] <lexxan> ?? mountntfs
[07:50] <[uhelp] > mountntfs: To learn about mounting windows partitions (ntfs, fat) see - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[07:50] <K_Dallas> thoreauputic, these days i guess you could have le fille too ;)
[07:50] <le_fille_blonde_> no i got the gender quite tight
[07:51] <le_fille_blonde_> right*
[07:51] <thoreauputic> K_Dallas: ;-)
[07:51] <K_Dallas> tight and right ;)
[07:51] <le_fille_blonde_> which ever can get me the help i need.....
[07:51] <WeirdAl> drac, http://www.pastebin.com/278685
[07:51] <thoreauputic> le_fille_blonde_: that's kind of what I suspected...
[07:51] <le_fille_blonde_> haha, anyways.....
[07:52] <K_Dallas> le_fille_blonde_, i guess there are great explnation on the ubuntu unofficial guide
[07:52] <usual> where in a package would I find a changelog, like if a package was 1.0 and it was upgraded to 1.1
[07:52] <drac> WeirdAl: great, i'll have a look..
[07:52] <Echylo> anyone has tried the game Enemy Territory around here? cause here it has a problem
[07:52] <WeirdAl> cheers
[07:52] <K_Dallas> le_fille_blonde_, http://ubuntuguide.org/
[07:52] <thoreauputic> le_fille_blonde_:  mount -t filesystem-type /dev/hda1 /your/mountpoint
[07:53] <K_Dallas> thoreauputic, now that we are on the subject, could i mount it rw or only ro (for ntfs)
[07:53] <thoreauputic> K_Dallas: ro for ntfs
[07:53] <drac> WeirdAl: (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM", this usually indicates problem with your AGPGART. Have you tried setting it both, "yes" and "no" from xorg.conf?
[07:53] <K_Dallas> darn, arent they going to add rw anytime soon?
[07:53] <thoreauputic> K_Dallas: unless you like breaking things
[07:53] <K_Dallas> i know ;)
[07:53] <WeirdAl> I only tried "no", drac.
[07:54] <WeirdAl> I'll try yes now.
[07:54] <drac> WeirdAl: lspci | grep -i agp, what's your agp bus?
[07:54] <ifr> Hi, I have an exquisitely frustrating, intermittent wireless problem...
[07:54] <ifr> I m using 5.04 on a centrino with a wifi card recognized and which worked out of the box
[07:54] <ifr> but is now intern=mittent after no changes in setup.
[07:54] <lexxan> ?? wireless
[07:55] <[uhelp] > wireless: For listed hardware support see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards | Setup see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto
[07:55] <thoreauputic> ifr: lucky you: I have an  exquisitely frustrating life... ;-)
[07:55] <lexxan> might wanna take a look at that.
[07:55] <ifr> Sorry, I have.
[07:55] <lexxan> ** codec
[07:55] <[uhelp] > Found 2 matches. Sorted: manualcodec, restricted. (0.002s)
[07:55] <WeirdAl> drac, I presume its 0000:00:1e.0
[07:55] <ifr> And it was working but now intermirtently disconnects and I cannot reconnect without rebooting the bleeding machine.
[07:55] <drac> WeirdAl: I mean, what kind of chip it is?
[07:55] <drac> WeirdAl: via, intel?
[07:55] <WeirdAl> oh
[07:55] <ifr> I am doina ALL command line iwconfigs after guis failed to change
[07:56] <WeirdAl> nVidia chipset.
[07:56] <thoreauputic> time to get some kind of sleep - later all
[07:56] <WeirdAl> the card is ATI
[07:56] <WeirdAl> nForce 2
[07:56] <WeirdAl> (chipset)
[07:56] <K_Dallas> thoreauputic,  bonne nuit!
[07:56] <drac> WeirdAl: Do you see nvidia_agp and agpgart in 'lsmod' ?
[07:56] <thoreauputic> merci !
[07:56] <WeirdAl> yep, they turned up a while back.
[07:56] <WeirdAl> I mean, while I was getting stuff working
[07:56] <ompaul> ifr, maybe  `dhclient`  on the command line might be helpful, it might not be but it might save on reboots
[07:56] <WeirdAl> Trying to, at least :-s
[07:57] <ifr> I've been doing just tat and it times out
[07:57] <drac> WeirdAl: Ok, when you try setting "yes", unload those (rmmod nvidia_agp, rmmod agpgart). If that doesn't help, try new drivers out, those are really old one you have there now.
[07:57] <ifr> BUT I type from another machine on the same LAN and am POSITIVE that the router is providing DHCP
[07:57] <le_fille_blonde_> terminal keeps telling me /dev/hdal does not exist?
[07:58] <Mackie_Messer> *hm*
[07:58] <WeirdAl> drac, ok I'll have to get you to guide me in a minute ^.^
[07:58] <drac> WeirdAl: ok
[07:58] <ompaul> ifr, try a different card?
[07:59] <WeirdAl> This would be less frustrating if this computer weren't so rubbish.
[07:59] <ifr> The card works pefectly well, for 20 or so hours at a clip. It's a centrino notbook...
[08:00] <drac> WeirdAl: What kind of ATi do you have?
[08:00] <WeirdAl> 9800 xt
[08:00] <WeirdAl> (or is it GT? :-S)
[08:00] <WeirdAl> 9800.
[08:01] <WeirdAl> :-)
[08:01] <drac> Ah ok, so fglrx is your only option to get 3d ..
[08:01] <WeirdAl> yep
[08:01] <WeirdAl> I installed fglrx
[08:01] <WeirdAl> That's what I was about to ask you.
[08:01] <WeirdAl> currently says "ati". Should I change that while I'm here?
[08:01] <drac> Backup your xorg.conf, and use 'fglrxconfig'
[08:01] <WeirdAl> k
[08:02] <Raskall> Ahh.. I simply love Ubuntu. I have got powersaving, suspend and hibernate functioning perfectly.
[08:02] <Raskall> never gotten this to work in ANY other distro
[08:03] <GNAM> simply ubuntu is never
[08:03] <GNAM> newer
[08:03] <GNAM> auaud
[08:04] <WeirdAl> Do USB mice use PS/2 protocol as standard?
[08:04] <WeirdAl> I ask because fglrxconfig wants to know what my mouse it and it's USB
[08:04] <webmind> or IMps/2
[08:04] <webmind> ?
[08:04] <wezzer> yes it uses
[08:04] <ompaul> GNAM, auaud?
[08:05] <MightyF> anyone have trouble getting .mov files to play in firefox?
[08:05] <MightyF> or any movie files for that matter
[08:05] <beerockxs> can anyone help me how to get my gameport joystick working?
[08:06] <Njal> bob2: Can you continue with that wine help? If it's not too much trouble
[08:07] <drac> WeirdAl: ExplorerPS/2, /dev/input/mice
[08:07] <Firsti> :)
[08:07] <Raskall> GNAM: Well.. I didn't get it to work in any other 2.6-based distro and I have tried A LOT of them. Debian Sarge was ubuntu's predecessor on my laptop and I couldn't get it to work properly. The point is that Ubuntu has prebuilt kernel images that has a config that is very close to what "everyone" needs.
[08:09] <jcdenton> hi people
[08:09] <wezzer-> hello
[08:09] <jcdenton> any irate package? i need irate in my ubuntu!!! but not with java web start :-(
[08:11] <Njal> wine help anyone?
[08:12] <HarrisonF> hi there, i am trying to install 5.04 but during install the first problem is it can't find my cd-rom, it is a NEC ND-3530A (DVD-RW), it is prompting me for the cd-rom module, which i have no idea
[08:12] <beerockxs> can anyone help me get my gameport joystick working?
[08:12] <WeirdAl> drac, which DRI restriction scheme do you recommend?
[08:12] <WeirdAl> Uh
[08:12] <WeirdAl> drac, I mean, it's asking me who should have Direct Rendering Interface privileges.
[08:12] <WeirdAl> users, root, video, dri, or everyone. What do you recommend? users?
[08:12] <ttrout> is there a way to access the nautilus mount on the desktop to a network share from the CL?
[08:12] <drac> WeirdAl: Go with defaults, on those questions you have no idea. They are pretty ok.
[08:13] <WeirdAl> alrighty
[08:14] <ttrout> do you have to create a seperate cl mount to be able to access by command line? thanks....
[08:14] <ttrout> does that make any since to anyone? ;)
[08:16] <ttrout> Hello everyone, can anyone help me with a nautilus network share issue?
[08:16] <lexxan> ttrout, ask
[08:16] <ttrout> is there a way to access the nautilus mount on the desktop to a network share from the CL?
[08:17] <ubuntu> hello all
[08:17] <ttrout> hello ubuntu
[08:17] <WeirdAl> drac, I moved XF86Config-4 to /etc/X11. That right? :-s
[08:17] <ubuntu> ttrout: hi
[08:17] <WeirdAl> It did tell me where to move it but then it went offscreen.
[08:19] <outlier> Complete newb question: I've got a computer with a wireless network card I'd like to get connected to the net so I can use apt.  Any ideas how to do this?  The card is a linksys WMP54g V4 if that helps, and it seems to have been detected OK on the pci bus, but where do I go from there?
[08:19] <WeirdAl> draaaaaaaaaaaaaaac come baaaaaaaaaaaack :(
[08:20] <lexxan> Does anyone know how to switch out of fullscreen mode with tsclient?
[08:20] <beerockxs_> can anyone help me get my gameport joystick working?
[08:20] <lexxan> ?? wireless
[08:20] <[uhelp] > wireless: For listed hardware support see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards | Setup see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto
[08:21] <ubuntu> lexxan: escape?
[08:21] <outlier> Thanks
[08:22] <ttrout> lexxan: I think just esc will do it...
[08:22] <justid> What's the equivalent for the Arial font?
[08:23] <WeirdAl> drac, have you died? :-(
[08:23] <outlier> Ah.  It appears I've got an unsupported card.  Blah.  Appreciate the links though.
[08:23] <lexxan> o
[08:24] <lexxan> nope no go
[08:25] <ubuntu> lexxan: ok sorry I'll look some more
[08:26] <WeirdAl> What's tsclient?
[08:26] <lexxan> I can't find it anywhere
[08:26] <ubuntu> terminal service client
[08:26] <HarrisonF> aha!  fixed it
[08:26] <jaderobbins> cool :D
[08:28] <lexxan> ah
[08:28] <lexxan> ctrl-alt-enter
[08:28] <ubuntu> that was my second guess :)
[08:28] <WeirdAl> Well DUH, obviously.
[08:28] <WeirdAl> :-)
[08:28] <beerockxs_> can anyone help me get my gameport joystick working?
[08:29] <WeirdAl> Can anyone pick up where drac left off?
[08:29] <WeirdAl> I might resort to playing Doom 3 in Windows.
[08:29] <WeirdAl> And then he'll come back at an inconvenient time and I'll be annoyed.
[08:29] <housetier> life's a bitch
[08:29] <lexxan> Is there a short cut key to switch desktops?
[08:29] <ubuntu> roll your mouse wheel
[08:29] <Eloadi> hello
[08:30] <lexxan> lol
[08:30] <lexxan> that doesn't do anything
[08:30] <ubuntu> lexxan: it doesn't?
[08:30] <lexxan> no
[08:30] <WeirdAl> ubuntu: of course ont.
[08:30] <WeirdAl> not
[08:30] <Eloadi> i have slack and windows installed, dual boot with lilo
[08:30] <lexxan> I thought alt-1 alt-2 etc wrked
[08:30] <lexxan> worked
[08:30] <WeirdAl> If that changed desktop, scrolling documents would be well annoying.
[08:30] <Eloadi> i want to add ubuntu to the list.
[08:30] <ubuntu> oh in irssi?
[08:30] <lexxan> no
[08:30] <lexxan> just in gnome
[08:30] <Eloadi> any suggestions regarding how to do it?
[08:30] <ubuntu> oh works for me :)
[08:31] <lexxan> I wanna  have my tsclient to windows box maximixed on desktop 2 all the time
[08:31] <lexxan> maximized
[08:31] <housetier> the mouse cursor has to be over the root window
[08:31] <lexxan> ya i see
[08:31] <ubuntu> does anyone run KDE on ubuntu?
[08:31] <WeirdAl> _
[08:31] <lexxan> i can't hover it though when tsclient is maximized
[08:31] <lexxan> ubuntu, yes i tried it yesterday
[08:31] <lexxan> ubuntu, it was bloated and buggy
[08:32] <lexxan> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:32] <WeirdAl> slash-me dislikes KDE
[08:32] <ubuntu> LOL
[08:32] <lexxan> i removed it all heh
[08:32] <tritium> lexxan: Ctrl-Alt-<arrow keys>
[08:32] <FunnyLookinHat> is there a apt package that helps me change my fstab to include NTFS partitions or do I have to change it all manually
[08:32] <lexxan> tritium, thx
[08:33] <ubuntu> I usually run Slackware, I'm downloading Ubuntu right now..I'm running on the LIVE CD at the moment I really like it
[08:33] <FunnyLookinHat> ubuntu, Yup...  I used to go with slack, but in terms of a desktop it just doesn't cut it.
[08:33] <lexxan> ?? mountntfgs
[08:33] <[uhelp] > mountntfgs[x] : No defenition found for word.
[08:33] <lexxan> ?? mountntfs
[08:33] <[uhelp] > mountntfs: To learn about mounting windows partitions (ntfs, fat) see - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[08:34] <karsten> hey
[08:34] <FunnyLookinHat> ty lexxan
[08:34] <karsten> anybody knows a good guide to installing?
[08:34] <hussam> I have a saa7134 tv card.
[08:34] <hussam> I loaded the driver using: modeprobe saa7134 card=11 tuner=2
[08:34] <hussam> The video works but without sound. Linein volume is set correctly and all sound cables are set up correctly. The used to work in fedora and it still works in WindowsXP.
[08:34] <hussam> Even if I hookup the tv card directly to the speakers, no sound comes out.
[08:34] <hussam> any idea?
[08:34] <WeirdAl> heh, I have a bash script called mountntfs
[08:35] <WeirdAl> Oh, no I don't... it's called ntfsmount ^^
[08:35] <bodaciousb> does anyone know where i can get a good chmod tutorial? last night i screwed it up, and all the icons on my desktop became little x's, aperently i baneed myself from my own machine
[08:37] <ubuntu> bodaciousb: chmod username filename
[08:38] <ubuntu> bodaciousb: and if you want to do a whole directory...do this
[08:38] <mcphail> bodaciousb: try sudo chmod -R +r /usr/share/pixmaps/
[08:38] <karsten> hey, is it possible to mount NTFS drives?
[08:38] <bodaciousb> ubuntu, last night i did "sudo chmod -rwxrwxrwx /usr/local/games/quake3" and it fryed my linux install
[08:38] <delire> karsten: you can mount them yes, but rarely write to them
[08:38] <ubuntu> chmod username -R username /some/directory
[08:38] <h|barbobot> does anyone know where mysql databases are stored by default?
[08:39] <ubuntu> oh sorry thinking of chown :)
[08:39] <bodaciousb> mcphail, -R is recursive, and +r is +read?
[08:39] <mcphail> bodaciousb: yes
[08:40] <ompaul> ubuntu, chown username:username file_foo :-)
[08:40] <mcphail> mcphail: but check the syntax...
[08:40] <Fator_Dee> bodaciousb: isn't "man chmod" enough of a tutorial?
[08:40] <bodaciousb> mcp so sudo chmod -R +r would enable that directry so my only user can acess it and read/write/
[08:40] <ompaul> ubuntu, chown username:groupname file_foo :-)
[08:40] <bodaciousb> Fator_Dee, ill read that =)
[08:41] <mcphail> bodaciousb: everyone shouldbe able to read
[08:41] <ubuntu> http://linux.math.tifr.res.in/manuals/man/chmod.html
[08:41] <franco> Alguien habla espaol??
[08:41] <franco> speak spanish??
[08:41] <Airo> Un poqusimo
[08:42] <jeroen_> Hello everybody
[08:42] <delire> ubuntu: chown -R user /path/to/dir
[08:42] <franco> m ok
[08:42] <chillywilly> lalalla
[08:42] <jeroen_> I have a question about Samba
[08:42] <franco> yo no se nada de ingles :(
[08:42] <Burgundavia> franco, #ubuntu-es
[08:42] <delire> hehe no spanish.. i think there is a spanish channel
[08:43] <Airo> ok, estudio espaol desde hace 8 meses..
[08:43] <Airo> entonces, no hablo mucho
[08:44] <ubuntu> bodaciousb: http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/l14/lesson14b.html
[08:44] <ubuntu> that is a really good one
[08:44] <franco> tambien es la primera vez que entro a este chat
[08:44] <Airo> pero, quizs pueda ayudarte?
[08:44] <Burgundavia> franco, Airo please go to #ubuntu-es
[08:44] <bodaciousb> ubuntu, thank you
[08:44] <ubuntu> no problem
[08:44] <Airo> Burgundavia, yeps, ok
[08:44] <Burgundavia> Airo, cheers, thanks
[08:45] <drcode> any one mybe know about glxinfo ?
[08:45] <Airo> franco, -> #ubuntu-es
[08:45] <delire> drcode : what's up?
[08:45] <Burgundavia> drcode, what is the issue?
[08:45] <drcode> hi
[08:45] <drcode> I have two problem
[08:45] <drcode> 1. openvpn dosnt work for me from work
[08:45] <drcode> it connect to my linux great
[08:45] <drcode> but I want to ping also to internet true vpn tunnel
[08:46] <drcode> 2. I run some games in wine
[08:46] <drcode> thay run slow
[08:46] <drcode> I read somthing about glxinfo 3d?
[08:46] <delire> drcode: glxinfo | grep direct
[08:46] <delire> drcode: do you see a "direct rendering: No"
[08:47] <franco> porque ponen ubuntu-es
[08:47] <franco> es una sala en espaol??
[08:47] <bad_mongo> why wont't cd player work? I'm pressing play, but it automaticly stops right after!
[08:47] <drcode> yes
[08:47] <drcode> is it good or bad?
[08:48] <delire> drcode: bad, if you want to play games.
[08:48] <delire> drcode: now lspci | grep VGA
[08:48] <drcode> I read that I can install DRI?
[08:48] <drcode> in my work I have Matrox g200 agp
[08:48] <drcode> here I have nvidia 2.0
[08:48] <drcode> I can't belive it dosnt support it
[08:49] <delire> drcode: do you want hardware accelleration on this machine, or the one at work?
[08:49] <drcode> I dont know
[08:50] <drcode> if mga g200 support hardware
[08:50] <drcode> I belive nvidia support it
[08:50] <delire> drcode: which machine do you want to play games on?
[08:50] <delire> drcode: ok there is an nvidia installer, if you want the proprietary nvidia drivers for your card.
[08:50] <drcode> at home and work
[08:50] <drcode> I did
[08:50] <drcode> one by one from the guid
[08:50] <delire> drcode: lsmod | grep nvidia
[08:51] <delire> drcode: anything?
[08:51] <drcode> nvidia               3923388  0
[08:51] <drcode> agpgart                31784  2 intel_agp,nvidia
[08:51] <delire> drcode: ok are you using hoary or warty?
[08:51] <FunnyLookinHat> Should I use NFS or SAMBA?  Does one seem to work better than another?
[08:52] <drcode> hoary
[08:52] <Fish-Face> Whee! I've installed ubuntu!
[08:52] <doid> Hey, Im trying to install a module for my wlan, it's a dlink 8180, but the 2.6 module wont compile. (Fedora tho) Anyone who knows about this module, and how to fix it?
[08:52] <delire> drcode: ok, so 'grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[08:53] <doid> It tried to find /lib/modules/2.6.../build, which dosen't exist
[08:53] <drcode> empty
[08:53] <mcphail> doid: IIRC that module only works on fedora
[08:53] <Fish-Face> Anyways, I'm trying to compile my wlan driver, but it needs /lib/modules/<kernel>/build/.tmp_versions
[08:53] <Fish-Face> Where'd they hide this?
[08:54] <mcphail> doid: check sourceforge.net to see if that has changed...
[08:54] <tritium_> Fish-Face, you need to install linux-headers-$(uname -r) before you'll be able to do that
[08:54] <drcode> it gave me empty line
[08:54] <doid> mcphail, well it should work I think?
[08:54] <delire> drcode: ok, what about 'grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[08:54] <doid> for the openmodule?
[08:54] <Fish-Face> tritium_ Are they on the CD somewhere?
[08:54] <mcphail> doid: i remember reading something saying it only compiles on FC
[08:55] <doid> ok
[08:55] <tritium_> Fish-Face, I don't recall about the CD, but they're apt-gettable
[08:55] <Raskall> can anyone tell me how I can automatically have different nicks on two chatnets during startup of irssi?
[08:55] <doid> I got them from Dlink
[08:55] <drcode> Driver "nv"
[08:55] <Fish-Face> tritium_, if you recall, these are my network drivers I'm trying to install ;-)
[08:55] <trust> is there a howto around for video capture cards?
[08:55] <Fish-Face> I'll hunt them out, thanks!
[08:55] <delire> drcode: you are using the wrong driver.
[08:55] <mcphail> doid: but check the website - it might have changed. Otherwise use ndiswrapper
[08:55] <delire> drcode: edit that file to read 'nvidia' instead of 'nv' and restart X
[08:55] <doid> Iv tried ndiswrapper, dosen't work
[08:55] <delire> drcode: that is your problem i believe.
[08:56] <delire> i have to eat now.
[08:56] <drcode> what>?
[08:56] <tritium_> Fish-Face, use your current method of internet access to download the .deb packages then
[08:56] <mcphail> doid: many people have that card working with ndiswrapper. Use he most up to date version and as many windows drivers as you can get your hands on.
[08:56] <h|barbobot> scheduling while atomic syslogd /0x00000101/5954 <---anyone know what this means? it seems to love filling up my system logs
[08:56] <Fish-Face> While I'm doing that, was I ever given the root password while installing? I had to do sudo passwd root
[08:57] <tritium_> there is no root passwed
[08:57] <tritium_> passwd
[08:57] <Raskall> figured it out myself. :)
[08:57] <Burgundavia> Fish-Face, www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo
[08:57] <tritium_> ^^^
[08:57] <drcode> I can fix it?
[08:57] <Fish-Face> Weird... I did su, hit enter and wasn't allowed in
[08:57] <tritium_> Fish-Face, see the URL from Burgundavia
[08:58] <Fish-Face> Yeah, I'ma reading
[08:58] <drcode> k
[08:58] <Raskall> Fish-Face: thats what it supposed to be like. Do everything with sudo from the user you created during boot.
[08:58] <drcode> delire: U have mybe email ?
[08:58] <Raskall> Fish-Face: or do "sudo passwd root"
[08:58] <Fish-Face> Ohh... sudo -i/s
[08:58] <Fish-Face> I didn't even know they were options
[08:58] <Fish-Face> Raskall, I already have done sudo passwd root
[08:58] <Fish-Face> But I was a little confused, that's all :)
[08:59] <Fish-Face> (trying to poke around a home directory - otherwise I'd need to sudo every command)
[08:59] <Raskall> Fish-Face: ok.. I use to start "Root Terminal" from Applications->System tools
[08:59] <tritium_> Fish-Face, not if you use sudo -s
[08:59] <Echylo> wat is the easiest way to set up a ftp server?
[08:59] <Raskall> Fish-Face: then you can just do "passwd"
[08:59] <Fish-Face> It was just while ubuntu was doing it's first-time-startup stuff
[08:59] <Fish-Face> Anyways, fixed now. Thanks for the info
[09:00] <zxc_> how do you check how much space you have left on your linux partition?
[09:00] <Echylo> ZxC, terminal df -h
[09:00] <h|barbobot> df -h
[09:00] <mcphail> ZxC: df -h
[09:00] <Raskall> Fish-Face: and good for you to choose ubuntu. The first really good linux distro in many years.
[09:01] <zxc_> huh...it says I have "3.9G" but I set ubuntu up on 40gb
[09:01] <Fish-Face> Raskall, I've used RH9, FC2 and FC3. I thought it was time to try something else
[09:01] <zxc_> wtf :?
[09:01] <Fish-Face> And debian seemed the most logical. I didn't want to sit around compiling everything in Gentoo, nor have to set up EVERYTHING in Slack.
[09:02] <blueyed> Can someone give me a hint about replacing lilo for grub as boot loader? (just dist-upgraded Debian woody.. :)
[09:02] <Raskall> Fish-Face: I had my favorite of RH9. Have tried FC*, Debian woody, sarge, Xandros, SuSE, Mandrake, etc, etc, etc since RH9 became payware. Haven't managed to settle with anything until ubuntu. :)
[09:02] <Raskall> s/of/in/
[09:02] <zxc_> does "3.9G" in df- h mean 3.9GB?
[09:02] <crimsun> blueyed: it's as simple as installing grub and running grub-install
[09:03] <blueyed> thanks, crimsun.
[09:03] <housetier> zxc_ I would assume so, yes
[09:03] <crimsun> blueyed: though there are several precautions if your /boot or / use XFS
[09:03] <blueyed> no, all ext3.
[09:03] <crimsun> blueyed: oh, and uninstall lilo first
[09:03] <zxc_> Housetier, but this can't be right, I partitioned my ubuntu partition to 30 or 40 gb
[09:03] <Raskall> zxc_: yes.. the -h means "human readable". G=Gigs, M=Megs, K=Kilos. I havent had the opportunity to check if it handles T correctly.
[09:03] <blueyed> just with apt, crimsun?
[09:04] <crimsun> blueyed: with lilo itself (-u), then with apt/dpkg
[09:04] <Fish-Face> Raskall, I've also formatted the partition as ReiserFS... just for the hell of it :D
[09:04] <mkerby> Hi everyone
[09:04] <Raskall> Fish-Face: :)
[09:05] <Fish-Face> Raskall, I believe it's faster than ext3, so it seems worthwhile.
[09:05] <tritium_> hi nickrud
[09:05] <Raskall> Fish-Face: I try to keep my ubuntu as vanilla as possible and its actually not a problem.
[09:05] <nickrud> hi back
[09:05] <Raskall> Fish-Face: hmm.. how do I convert?
[09:05] <zxc_> wtf...>_<, can I increase my ubuntu partition size using partition magic without losing any information it?
[09:05] <Fish-Face> Raskall, ehm... not sure how to do it and keep the data :)
[09:05] <zxc_> *on it
[09:05] <HarrisonF> hum
[09:06] <Raskall> Fish-Face: darn it. :) I don't want to do another reinstall now. Read about what happened last week at http://rolfas.net/?p=335
[09:06] <Fish-Face> I think it's possible... Perhaps :D
[09:07] <mcphail> Raskall: i've never found much difference between ReiserFS and Ext3
[09:07] <mkerby> I've got hoary. I'm trying to run my favorite weather app, Liquid Weather.  But it runs on Superkaramba, which apparently doesn't like xorg. Any way around this?
[09:07] <crimsun> mkerby: the version in universe doesn't work?
[09:07] <HarrisonF> i upgraded hoary to kernel 2.6.11 and now gnome freezes right after login, any wild guesses as to the reason?
[09:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone know why my apt-get isn't finding a package called scons that is in this tutorial in the Ubuntu forums?
[09:08] <Raskall> Fish-Face: the built in card of my laptop (thinkpad a31p) hasn't worked properly with orinoco and a readme in the newest orinoco archive said intersil prism 2.5 was quite buggy and they havent fixed it. So I blacklisted the orinoco-drivers and tried the xp drivers in ndiswrapper
[09:08] <Fish-Face> Raskall, anyways, I just saw the format as... option and thought "what the hell"
[09:08] <crimsun> HarrisonF: boot with "noinotify"
[09:08] <Raskall> Fish-Face: it broke a lot of files in /lib and rendered me unable to boot.
[09:08] <crimsun> HarrisonF: or stop using 2.6.11, because it's not supported.
[09:08] <Fish-Face> Ouch
[09:08] <mkerby> crimsun, not with the newest Liquid Weather, which is the only one I can find.
[09:08] <ompaul> zxc_, never done it myself, if goes against the logic of how one builds a filesystem, that being said it is possible, however why not build another partition and move data to it?
[09:08] <tritium_> HarrisonF, there are no linux-restricted-modules for 2.6.11, so if you're using nvidia binary drivers, for example, you'll have problems
[09:08] <Raskall> HarrisonF: its the same with me. I have just forgotten about 2.6.11 until it's supported.
[09:08] <HarrisonF> crimsun: unfortunately, i have to use 2.6.11 cause the AHCI issues
[09:09] <crimsun> HarrisonF: then boot with "noinotify"
[09:09] <mkerby> Superkaramba has updated recently. The newest version isn't in any of the repositories.
[09:09] <Fish-Face> OK, I've found those files on the CD after all that
[09:10] <Fish-Face> Oh, before I go, the maximum resolution is 1024x768, is that just a mix-up in xorg.conf or what?
[09:10] <hussam> HarrisonF: where did you obtain kernel 2.6.11 from?
[09:10] <blueyed> crimsun, will grub work without a menu.lst or will I have to copy over it from the examples dir?
[09:10] <crimsun> blueyed: copy it over and modify it
[09:10] <HarrisonF> hussam: universe
[09:10] <REWind> have anyone experianced problems with USB storage lately? My USD storage doesn't mount anymore...
[09:11] <doid> Tried the drivers at sourceforge, dosen't work
[09:11] <hussam> HarrisonF: did you get your Nvidia or ATi card wroking with it:
[09:11] <crimsun> REWind: lsmod|grep sd_mod
[09:11] <HarrisonF> hussam: my nvidia card kinda worked ;)  but gnome freezes after launching, but it works fine with GDM
[09:12] <ryman> I can't open floppy drive =(
[09:12] <CB> quick question
[09:12] <tritium_> hussam, there are no linux-restricted-modules for 2.6.11, so you can't unless you build your own
[09:12] <crimsun> HarrisonF: I already told you a workaround for that :)
[09:12] <hussam> tritium_: how do I build them?
[09:12] <CB> how come I can't run bittorrent
[09:12] <tritium_> hussam, you're using the nvidia binary drivers, correct?
[09:12] <HarrisonF> crimsun: yea, i am trying it now
[09:12] <ryman> it says "couldn't determine filesystem file"
[09:13] <REWind> crimsun, yes that module is loaded if that is what you mean..
[09:13] <Hannes_> mm
[09:13] <Hannes_> breezy doesn't automount my camera as hoary did...
[09:13] <tritium_> hussam, you'll have to build it from nvidia-kernel-source package
[09:13] <ryman> can someone please help me with floppy drive ?
[09:13] <Hannes_> how can I mount it manually?
[09:13] <hussam> tritium_:ok I'll try that
[09:13] <josh42> is there an fps demo that can really show off my a64+9800 pro in ubuntu?
[09:13] <FunnyLookinHat> Does anyone know why "scons" is not found by synaptic and apt-get?
[09:13] <crimsun> REWind: in dmesg, is there any output regarding "sd" ?
[09:14] <tritium_> hussam, do you absolutely need 2.6.11?
[09:14] <pztak> is there a way to set it up so that when i receive new mail in evolution, it will have something like "X new email messages" in the top launch bar?
[09:14] <crimsun> FunnyLookinHat: have you enabled the universe repo?
[09:14] <FunnyLookinHat> crimsun: I am not sure.
[09:14] <WeirdAl> Why is startx not found, and how can I find it?
[09:14] <tritium_> FunnyLookinHat, you likely didn't.
[09:14] <FunnyLookinHat> crimsun:  No, I haven't...
[09:14] <CB> I've downloaded bittorrent via synaptic, how come I can't can't run bittorrent by typing "bittorrent" in the CLI?
[09:15] <hussam> tritium_: can you take a look at this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31276  I have a feeling it will be solved if I upgrade to 2.6.11
[09:15] <crimsun> WeirdAl: startx is in the xbase-clients package.
[09:15] <WeirdAl> ta
[09:15] <ringmauer> how to start ssh in ubuntu?
[09:15] <HarrisonF> i hate using bleeding edge kernels
[09:15] <crimsun> ringmauer: the server? aptitude install openssh-server
[09:15] <tritium_> hussam, what makes you think so?
[09:15] <ringmauer> okay
[09:16] <Hannes_> crimsun: my usb mass storage device doesn't mount itself automatically
[09:16] <lao_v> ringmauer: ssh username@hostname
[09:16] <ringmauer> i know crimsun , but how to start it
[09:16] <Hannes_> syslog says it found it
[09:16] <mcphail> CB: use a GUI client like azureus
[09:16] <hussam> tritium_: it worked when I was on fedora on 2.6.11 before I switched to ubuntu
[09:16] <nickrud> pztak, I don't think so
[09:16] <WeirdAl> According to my xorg log i don't have any screen.s
[09:16] <WeirdAl> s
[09:17] <crimsun> Hannes_: neither does mine. Is sd_mod loaded?
[09:17] <WeirdAl> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[09:17] <pztak> nickrud, what's the D-BUS thing about then?
[09:17] <tritium_> hussam, well, I can't guarantee that it will
[09:18] <WeirdAl> any ideas? :-(
[09:18] <Hannes_> crimsun: ok, work's now
[09:18] <Hannes_> thanks
[09:18] <crimsun> Hannes_: np
[09:18] <Burgundavia> pztak, dbus is for passing message between applications
[09:18] <WeirdAl> All I wanted was for OpenGL to use hardware, and now I don't have a GUI at all.
[09:18] <hussam> tritium_: could it some configuration I should do to get sound working in tv card without upgrading the kernel?
[09:19] <crimsun> mkerby: does it work with 0.36?
[09:19] <tritium_> hussam, possibly, yes.
[09:19] <HarrisonF> crimsun: great, the noinotify worked, where do i send the check?  ;)
[09:19] <WeirdAl> Can I even uninstall all the stuff I've done and go back to basics?
[09:19] <crimsun> HarrisonF: :)
[09:19] <nickrud> pztak, I'm no programmer :)   roughly, it's a way for process to notify each other about various changes
[09:19] <stian> h
[09:19] <tritium_> WeirdAl, did you install ubuntu packages, or nvidia drivers from their website?
[09:19] <delire_chilli_no> josh42: look for DHLORE or even grab the doom3 demo
[09:20] <hussam> tritium_: any idea how or where I can obtain more info?
[09:20] <Frafra> what i need install for mount hfs partition?
[09:20] <Luke> hey guys i've got a ubuntu computer with a VIA 82C686A/B rev50 sound card that plays gnome sound, oggs, and cds, but not MP3's. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[09:20] <Raskall> ahh.. this channel is unbearable without "/ignore all -public -actions -msgs"
[09:20] <delire_chilli_no> josh42: http://darwinia.co.uk is a good little demo also
[09:20] <tritium_> hussam, not really
[09:21] <stianh> Hey, I am getting an error message from synaptic everthing something has finished installing. There are about ten lines or more, anywhere I can post them for feedback?
[09:21] <pztak> so how do i use dbus notification upon mail arival? i mean, what's the point of there's nothing that notifies you when mail arrives in the launchbar or something like that
[09:21] <pztak> ?
[09:21] <tritium_> Luke, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats