[08:36] <NoobZaibot> mneptok: I changed it in Processor Type at Menuconfig
[08:37] <ArrenLex> stock? xD
[08:37] <kromel> question, i'm using an AMD Sempron processor, the k7 kernel the proper one for me to use?
[08:37] <ArrenLex> Ocean: if that's your arch, 686 is better than 386, yeah.
[08:37] <mneptok> ^Ocean^: the 686 kernel is certainly better if you have a PII or better
[08:37] <MZM> wickedpuppy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64
[08:37] <Jason_D> !ask i just started with linux and i heard that ubuntu is easiest to start with but i have problems starting it.
[08:37] <^Ocean^> well i got an AMD AthalonXP2400 :S
[08:37] <ArrenLex> kromel: if you have a dual-core CPU, you need an -smp kernel.
[08:37] <wickedpuppy> this conversation reminds me of gentoo forum ...
[08:37] <mneptok> kromel: did you install the i386 or AMD64 version of Ubuntu?
[08:38] <mneptok> ^Ocean^: you'll want the K7 kernel on i386, the K8 on AMD64
[08:38] <NoobZaibot> mneptok : The kernel that i am downloading now http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.18.tar.bz2 is not optimized for i686 ? I thought that selecting the type in menuconfig was enough
[08:38] <kromel> mneptok, i386
[08:38] <mneptok> kromel: yes, K7
[08:38] <mneptok> NoobZaibot: if you're compiling it yourself, it's not an issue
[08:38] <kromel> mneptok, okay, that's what I'm on now.  thanks for the clarification.
[08:39] <mneptok> kromel: using a K7 kernel gets you things like 3DNow! calls and other AMD-specific extension support to improve overall performance
[08:39] <MZM> wickedpuppy: and what? Gentoo was too gar 4u? ;)
[08:39] <MZM> s/gar/hard/
[08:40] <mneptok> gar. arr. me hearty.
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> nope ... the forum was great
[08:40] <ciphex_> can anyone suggest a cheap PCI sound card that will work with ALSA drivers. (running xUbuntu)
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> look at the talks
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> we are talking about architectures
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> you hardly see it outside of gentoo forums
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> since most distros come with a vanilla kernel
[08:41] <mneptok> ciphex_: what part of the world arte you in?
[08:41] <mneptok> -t
[08:41] <ciphex_> US. East coast.
[08:41] <MZM> wickedpuppy: Oh, now I see. I also use Gentoo, so this konversation was OK for me :)
[08:41] <frying_fish> ciphex_: any of the cheaper creative cards.
[08:41] <mneptok> ciphex_: sec
[08:42] <XZEKUTION> anybody still awake?
[08:42] <wickedpuppy> nope
[08:42] <XZEKUTION> :(
[08:42] <frying_fish> some people just woke up
[08:42] <XZEKUTION> I need hewp
[08:42] <MZM> XZEKUTION: still awake? your kidding! I just got up.
[08:42] <wickedpuppy> its afternoon here ...
[08:42] <wickedpuppy> 2:45 pm
[08:42] <mneptok> ciphex_: mind if i paste you a URL to PM?
[08:42] <XZEKUTION> It's 1:45AM
[08:42] <MZM> it's 9 am
[08:42] <XZEKUTION> Central U.S.
[08:43] <ciphex_> mneptok: please do
[08:43] <MDCore> 08:42am :D
[08:43] <XZEKUTION> you guys ubuntu experts?
[08:43] <MDCore> Ah.. the lovely freenode tradition of "What time is it where you are?!!? "
[08:43] <MZM> ex-prets??
[08:43] <wickedpuppy> !ask
[08:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:43] <XZEKUTION> my Ubuntu clock and my WinXP clock keep messing each other up and I can't figure out what the deal is
[08:44] <wickedpuppy> i got a solution ... format winxp ... solved!
[08:44] <MZM> XP uses local time for clock, Ubuntu - UTM
[08:44] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: tell the XP clock that it's timezone is UTC
[08:44] <mneptok> *its
[08:44] <XZEKUTION> If I reboot from WinXP back to WinXP it's fine, but if I boot from WinXP and reboot to Ubuntu, the clock will be off on Ubuntu, and then it will be off when i go back to WinXP too
[08:44] <GreenCult> hi all
[08:44] <XZEKUTION> UTC ?
[08:44] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: Ubuntu sets the hardware clock to UTC and converts from there to your local time. XP sets the hardware clock to your local time.
[08:44] <XZEKUTION> what is UTC
[08:45] <mneptok> Universal Time Coordinated
[08:45] <mneptok> which right now is GMT-1
[08:45] <XZEKUTION> will it still be the time I am used to or will it be the 24hour clock that I'm unaccustomed to
[08:45] <XZEKUTION> I like the 12hr clocks
[08:45] <frying_fish> ahh yes, windows needs the hardware clock to be set to localtime (stupid thing) so you will need to go to here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201690&highlight=clock+times+changing+xp
[08:45] <mneptok> the display of the time (12 vs 24 hours) will not be affected
[08:45] <frying_fish> it is fairly simple to sort, right click on the clock, then untick the UTC option
[08:45] <XZEKUTION> I don't need to do anything to Ubuntu, just WinXP ?
[08:46] <mneptok> correct
[08:46] <frying_fish> XZEKUTION: no, you need to do this in ubuntu
[08:46] <frying_fish> leave win xp alone, just whilst in ubuntu next right click the clock, then untick UTC in preferences
[08:46] <XZEKUTION> oooooh
[08:46] <XZEKUTION> I thought it was a WinXP problem
[08:47] <frying_fish> nope, it is a win xp problem, but the fix is in linux.
[08:47] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: you can also use a registry hack, but that's somewhat uglier
[08:47] <XZEKUTION> is it possible to listen to my music that I have on WinXP once I am in Ubuntu
[08:48] <|thunder> XZEKUTION; look in /media/hda1
[08:48] <frying_fish> XZEKUTION: yes,
[08:49] <frying_fish> |thunder: that may be incorrect for his partitioning or devices
[08:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys. i need to update my firefox. can u plesae tell how
[08:49] <frying_fish> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: are you using the default one that came with ubuntu?
[08:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hmm. yup!
[08:49] <|thunder> itll get him looking in the right direction
[08:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i tried using the update manger no luck
[08:49] <frying_fish> |thunder: no, it really won't
[08:50] <frying_fish> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: then it is most likely at the most recent version
[08:50] <mneptok> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: why do you need a Firefox newer than what is in the repositories?
[08:50] <frying_fish> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: what does the about bit tell you?
[08:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok its old
[08:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> whats the latest version
[08:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> mine is 1.5
[08:50] <XZEKUTION> when I am in Ubuntu, how do I get desktop icons?
[08:50] <mneptok> latest is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:50] <XZEKUTION> I've seen screenshots of people who have really cool desktops
[08:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> mine is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:50] <frying_fish> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: you are most likely running <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:50] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: icons for what?
[08:51] <wickedpuppy> XZEKUTION, you mean the button thats close all the windows ?
[08:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOL. how can i update my software? the update link in firefox is deactivated
[08:51] <XZEKUTION> music, browser, documents, programs etc
[08:51] <wickedpuppy> if it is then its at bottom left edge
[08:51] <Flannel> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: you update it through update-manager, all of the fixes from <IP_ADDRESS> are included in the current version from ubuntu
[08:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok guys thanks a lot.
[08:51] <mneptok> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: uhhhh ... you use the Update Manager app in Ubuntu to update software. not update utilities inside the apps themselves.
[08:52] <XZEKUTION> updating and installing stuff is the hardest part about ubuntu
[08:52] <XZEKUTION> and downloading too
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> XZEKUTION, SEEN SYNAPTIC ?
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> opps
[08:53] <XZEKUTION> yes
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> pardon my caps
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> thats hard ?
[08:53] <XZEKUTION> there is so much stuff on those repositories.. how do you know what you want.. whats good and what is crap
[08:53] <jenda> How can I make Ubuntu blank the screen when the lappy lid is closed, but not lock it?
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> clearly you never managed windows before ...
[08:54] <jenda> (since it refuses to accept my password after locking)
[08:54] <XZEKUTION> wickedpuppy: what?
[08:54] <wickedpuppy> XZEKUTION, do you know whats the best burning software for windows ?
[08:54] <XZEKUTION> nero
[08:54] <wickedpuppy> how did you know ?
[08:55] <abhinay> I want to run servlet programs of java in Ubuntu, and i want to install tomcat server help me.
[08:55] <XZEKUTION> bc i've heard a lot about it, and I've used it before
[08:55] <jenda> I don't see how knowing it for Windows is any easier than knowing it for Ubuntu, wickedpuppy...
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> i can think of more than 20 other burning softwares
[08:55] <Flannel> XZEKUTION: until you get familiar with programs, you don't really (know what's good/not), you have to do some research, or trust what's in main (which is fully supported by ubuntu, meaning it's somewhat guarenteed quality), you can search synaptic, or packages.ubuntu.com, etc.
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> download.com has tons
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> XZEKUTION, precisely ...
[08:55] <CromagDK> cd burner xp pro
[08:55] <jenda> lol
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> XZEKUTION, slowly you will know which is good and which is crap
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> jenda, now you get my message ?
[08:55] <XZEKUTION> give me suggestions
[08:56] <jenda> wickedpuppy: yep, sorry, was meant for XZEKUTION
[08:56] <wickedpuppy> for ?
[08:56] <XZEKUTION> when I'm on WinXP I use Yahoo Jukebox to listen to the radio.. what options does Ubuntu have
[08:56] <CromagDK> i liked Cd burner XP pr
[08:56] <CromagDK> with an o
[08:56] <jenda> XZEKUTION: AmaroK, I recomend.
[08:56] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[08:56] <XZEKUTION> Ubuntu
[08:56] <Yasuo> xmms
[08:56] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: Rhythmbox or Banshee
[08:56] <Yasuo> mplayer :P
[08:56] <XZEKUTION> theres 3
[08:56] <XZEKUTION> which of those 3 is the best
[08:57] <jenda> Yasuo: please...
[08:57] <XZEKUTION> I want one that will work the first time, and have good music
[08:57] <XZEKUTION> nothing crappy
[08:57] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: Amarok is nice, but will require you to download and install all the KDE libraries. kinda overkill just for a music player.
[08:57] <Yasuo> XZEKUTION, there is no BEST, asking for best player only makes ppl flaming around
[08:57] <jenda> XZEKUTION: Up to personal preference. There are many more for Windows, and Yahoo Jukebox is hardly the best.
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> XZEKUTION, you want OSX ...
[08:57] <XZEKUTION> I just want to listen to the radio, i dont want anything crazy
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> linux doesnt work that way
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> try and choose the one you want ...
[08:58] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: Rhythmbox is already installed. try it.
[08:58] <XZEKUTION> alright
[08:58] <Yasuo> xmms is fine for hearing musikc, if you want more playlist and music managing use amarok or so
[08:58] <XZEKUTION> i dont want playlists of my own music i want radio
[08:58] <XZEKUTION> all my MP3s got erased, and i dont feel like downloading them all again
[08:58] <XZEKUTION> i had like 4,000
[08:58] <Yasuo> lol baka
[08:59] <wickedpuppy> thats .. not a lot really if you ask me
[08:59] <wickedpuppy> i got 7 or so gig ..
[08:59] <XZEKUTION> it will suck even more if you lose them all
[08:59] <m4rk> how come photoshop doesn't work with wine????
[08:59] <Yasuo> /me mas 1/0
[08:59] <mneptok> wickedpuppy: 30K mp3s is ~125GB
[08:59] <Yasuo> m4rk, its a windows program
[08:59] <wickedpuppy> Yasuo, wine runs windows programs
[08:59] <Yasuo> crossoveroffice is specialized for photoshop
[09:00] <Yasuo> wickedpuppy, oh, rly?
[09:00] <frying_fish> mneptok: why can't you use xmms? 30'000, does that go past a file limit? as it certainly copes with my 15k fine
[09:00] <wickedpuppy> !wine
[09:00] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:00] <XZEKUTION> is Wine preinstalled with Ubuntu or do i have to try and figure out how to get it on my computer
[09:00] <frying_fish> XZEKUTION: apt-get install wine
[09:00] <mneptok> frying_fish: browsing 30K mp3s by filename is a *drag*
[09:00] <wickedpuppy> XZEKUTION, as usual sudo apt-get install wine
[09:00] <XZEKUTION> last time i installed wine it went crazy on me
[09:00] <frying_fish> you say "browsing" you can always use the jump feature
[09:00] <Yasuo> XZEKUTION is Wine preinstalled with Ubuntu or do i have to try and figure out how to get it on my computer <<< it really doesnt matter does it?
[09:00] <XZEKUTION> made my screen flash to black over and over again
[09:01] <mneptok> frying_fish: trust me, managing what music you want to hear when you have 30,000 songs to choose from is a lot easier with Rhythmbox, Banshee, or some other "music library" meme app
[09:01] <Yasuo> XZEKUTION, try before asking
[09:01] <XZEKUTION> I dont know all of the console commands for linux
[09:01] <XZEKUTION> i dont know apt etc
[09:02] <wickedpuppy> Yasuo, relax .. its ok to ask :P
[09:02] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: few people do.
[09:02] <Yasuo> xzakox, you can use the gui
[09:02] <frying_fish> ahh, well I am currently using audacious, which is starting to think about a music library, but I have never really found the need.
[09:02] <MZM> mneptok: I think - no one knows ALL of them
[09:02] <Yasuo> aptutude iirc?
[09:02] <tristan_> hi, i have question about openoffice
[09:02] <Yasuo> XZEKUTION,  apt-cache search program
[09:02] <XZEKUTION> I'm boot to ubuntu, be right back
[09:02] <Yasuo> XZEKUTION,  then: apt-get install exactprogramname
[09:02] <XZEKUTION> thanks for your hel
[09:02] <frying_fish> XZEKUTION: open the "package manager" which is synaptic in ubuntu and adept (I think) in kubuntu
[09:03] <XZEKUTION> help*
[09:03] <Yasuo> why reboot?
[09:03] <tristan_> I am using openoffice impress(presentation). how can i add an element(for example a text control) that will apply to all new slides
[09:03] <XZEKUTION> i cant get there from here
[09:04] <XZEKUTION> I'm on WinXP right now
[09:04] <Yasuo> XZEKUTION, then install xchat and come back then at least
[09:04] <tristan_> i am trying to create an open office template, do have any references?
[09:04] <XZEKUTION> I have xchat on ubuntu
[09:04] <XZEKUTION> i'll brb
[09:04] <Yasuo> ;)
[09:06] <faisal_d> morning... where is the smbusers file located in dapper? i can't find it in /etc/samba/smbusers
[09:07] <abhinay> how to start tomcat server ?
[09:08] <Adross> which app should I use to resize an ogg theora video?
[09:08] <wickedpuppy> abhinay, ah can ask in #java or #tomcat ?
[09:09] <Skitzo1989> is there a mpeg codec for "movie player"?
[09:09] <Adross> Skitzo1989:
[09:09] <Adross> yeh, give me a second
[09:09] <Skitzo1989> ok
[09:09] <Flannel> abhinay: the 'tomcat5' package
[09:09] <Adross> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29%7C%28formats%29
[09:12] <mof> Ok so I have a 117 gig partition for /home I'm using 6.4 gig with 60.7 gig free- now i could be wrong but doesn't that leave 110 gig? where is the other ~40 gig?
[09:13] <xicas> valdeleas
[09:14] <faisal_d> mof, check your disks and partitions for the missing space
[09:15] <mof> im not sure what you mean?
[09:15] <LookTJ> mof: gparted
[09:16] <wickedpuppy> df -h
[09:16] <LookTJ> on livecd
[09:16] <faisal_d> for visual gui try to go to system -> administration -> disks.. it'll give you all infromation you need
[09:16] <mof> the /home partition shows 117 but lists it's free space as the ~60 gig.
[09:17] <faisal_d> mof, your home is 117 G, you are 60 free... where is the problem??
[09:18] <mof> with it's 'contents' using ~6.4 gig
[09:18] <LookTJ> mof: resize the partition, take 1 MB away
[09:18] <faisal_d> ah... i see
[09:18] <ciphex_> how does the kernel-source package differ from the linux-source package?
[09:18] <LookTJ> then resize and put the 1 MB back
[09:18] <theguy> can some one help me...i cant seem to rum video streams from websites
[09:19] <LookTJ> it happened to my 250 GB once before
[09:19] <zappe> why doesn't work with "named.* @computer" in syslog for logging?
[09:19] <LookTJ> i got one problem here
[09:20] <mof> LookTJ thanks but that seems like a good way to loose some data, is there a documented bug with ext3?
[09:20] <LookTJ> 1 MB
[09:20] <LookTJ> ?
[09:20] <LookTJ> that's won't do anything to lose data
[09:21] <Saba> goodmorning
[09:21] <anilomkar> how to install JSDK in ubuntu??
[09:21] <mof> i might just back some things up first anyway. ;P
[09:21] <LookTJ> good evening saba
[09:22] <Saba> it's 9.30 am here LookTJ
[09:22] <faisal_d> anilomaker, download it, chmod a+x, then run it
[09:22] <LookTJ> 12:22 AM here
[09:22] <LookTJ> :P
[09:22] <Alex232> Hello!
[09:22] <LookTJ> Hi
[09:22] <Saba> hello Alex232
[09:22] <ciphex_> can anyone tell me the differences between the kernel-source and linux-source packages?
[09:23] <Alex232> Do anybody use eagle-usb?
[09:23] <LookTJ> hey anilomkar i help with that
[09:23] <Alex232> I mean ADSL driver
[09:24] <faisal_d> i can't find my /etc/samba/smbusers file... can anybody tell me where it's located?
[09:24] <mneptok> faisal_d: "locate smbusers"
[09:24] <Alex232> Eagle-usb is a driver for ADSL modems like Sagem and others. I can't install this one
[09:25] <faisal_d> mneptok, it doesn't return anything!!
[09:25] <LookTJ> faisal_d I have my jsdk in a .deb package
[09:25] <LookTJ> :)
[09:25] <mneptok> faisal_d: "sudo updatedb && locate smbusers"
[09:26] <Xzekution> anybody here
[09:26] <faisal_d> lookTj, really? whre did you get it form? java.sun.com only have binary or rpm
[09:26] <Xzekution> I think I messed something up
[09:26] <LookTJ> I made it
[09:27] <Alex232> if to use official instructions, after configure command eagle-usb reports that it can't find gcc, cc and something else. Is there gcc in Ubuntu Dapper?
[09:27] <faisal_d> xzekution, don't ask to ask a question.. just ask
[09:27] <LookTJ> faisal_d i made it myself
[09:27] <Xzekution> I was using WinXP a minute ago when I was in here.. and I booted to Ubuntu.. and it wouldn't work
[09:27] <Xzekution> I got some kind of graphics X error
[09:27] <Xzekution> and I'm using the LiveCD right now
[09:27] <faisal_d> lookTj, sweeeeet :)
[09:28] <anilomkar> LookTJ, please help me
[09:28] <anilomkar> LookTJ, what to do?
[09:28] <Xzekution> How do I uninstall the beta version of Ubuntu and go back to Dapper
[09:28] <LookTJ> i need to update it though
[09:28] <mneptok> faisal_d: Sun's JRE, JDK, and JDSK are in the apt repos
[09:28] <Xzekution> or do I have to reinstall Ubuntu from the LiveCD
[09:28] <Alex232> So, is there gcc in Ubuntu???
[09:28] <mneptok> Alex232: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[09:29] <jack_> where to talk about edgy?
[09:29] <Xzekution> mneptok :(
[09:29] <mneptok> jack_: #ubuntu+1
[09:29] <Alex232> mneptok: what will this do?
[09:29] <LookTJ> !edgy
[09:29] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:29] <LookTJ> ;)
[09:29] <Alex232> mneptok: install gcc?
[09:29] <mneptok> Alex232: install gcc and other programs neede to build anything
[09:30] <mneptok> *needed
[09:30] <Alex232> mneptok: ok! i'll try it now, thanks
[09:31] <xzk> mneptok, can you help me
[09:31] <^Ocean^> anyone get vmware working on Edgy ?
[09:32] <fuffalo> i used apt get to install some software, how do i uninstall it if it's not in my add/remove list?
[09:32] <faisal_d> xzk don't ask to ask, just ask
[09:32] <xzk> faisal_d: I already did :(
[09:32] <mneptok> xzk: check ~/.xsession-errors
[09:33] <xzk> mneptotk: can I do that from the LiveCD ?
[09:33] <xzk> thats what I'm using now
[09:33] <mneptok> xzk: mount the Ubuntu partition on the hard drive and loook at it
[09:33] <LookTJ> making sun-j2sk1.5_1.5.0+update09_i386.deb atm
[09:33] <NoobZaibot> mneptok : do u know if the xfs support is normally needed ?
[09:34] <xzk> mneptok: with GParted?
[09:35] <xzk> mneptok: using GParted?
[09:35] <Skitzo1981> which version of java do i need to download for Ubuntu?
[09:36] <Lob1> hi
[09:36] <Madpilot> !java
[09:36] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:36] <Lob1> does anyone have the .deb for compiz-manager plz ?
[09:36] <xzk> Lob1: are you a Pro at using Ubuntu
[09:36] <Lob1> xzk > no sorry :/
[09:36] <^Ocean^> Lobl: beryl
[09:37] <Madpilot> Skitzo1981, check ubotu above ^^^
[09:37] <LookTJ> anyone want sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update09_i386.deb?
[09:37] <xzk> Lob1: bummer
[09:38] <LookTJ> java from ubuntu isn't uptodate
[09:38] <LookTJ> no offense
[09:38] <xzk> how do I uninstall Edgy and go back to Dapper
[09:38] <xzk> Edgy won't boot for me
[09:38] <^Ocean^> xzk: ffr :P
[09:38] <^Ocean^> ffr rather
[09:38] <xzk> ffr?
[09:38] <^Ocean^> fdisk format recover :)
[09:38] <LookTJ> what's ffr?
[09:38] <LookTJ> oh
[09:38] <Skitzo1981> Ubunto doesnt use RPM's does it?
[09:38] <xzk> how do i do that ocean
[09:38] <LookTJ> nope
[09:39] <^Ocean^> lol
[09:39] <^Ocean^> umm
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> Skitzo1981, no .deb
[09:39] <LookTJ> you want sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update09_i386.deb
[09:39] <LookTJ> ?
[09:39] <^Ocean^> re-install drapper thats how :)
[09:39] <faisal_d> skitzo you can use alient to install RPMs, but it's experimental
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> but you can change a .rpm to deb by using alien, but you have to install it firsh
[09:39] <xzk> ocean: am i better off reinstalling from the LiveCD
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> it's always worked for me
[09:39] <^Ocean^> pritty much so yeah...
[09:39] <xzk> alright cool
[09:39] <xzk> thats not too bad
[09:39] <^Ocean^> altho u might just wanna fix edgy
[09:40] <xzk> i was hoping that.. bc i downloaded too much crap on my linux with the synaptic.. it was messy
[09:40] <xzk> Ocean: how do i fix edgy lol
[09:40] <LookTJ> !edgy
[09:40] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:40] <^Ocean^> well would have to figure out whats wrong with it :)
[09:40] <xzk> it looks like a scary error
[09:40] <faisal_d> !schedule
[09:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:40] <xzk> i think i better reinstall dapper
[09:41] <xzk> Wish me luck with the reinstall
[09:41] <openedu> I am having trouble removing a package with apt-get
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> openedu, what package?
[09:42] <openedu> i receive the following error: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:42] <^Ocean^> ur prolyl running another instance of apt
[09:42] <openedu> Admiral_Chicago, it is libdb4.4, although the error appears to be a locking error
[09:42] <^Ocean^> or a package manager
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> openedu, or something else may be sudo
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> are you using the package? thought it might be in /lock
[09:43] <openedu> hmm, is there a way to query such things?
[09:44] <LookTJ> openedu, close either the terminal or package manager
[09:44] <pcdeal> Help I have trouble with delivering to Maildir with fetchmail and procmail in courier-imap
[09:45] <faisal_d> when i run the testparm command i get the following: params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file: n. How can i find out which line that is?
[09:45] <openedu> ^Ocean^, I may have a package manager running, but I don't know how to locate it.  I am running a fairly standard install of ubuntu, so most things are defaults
[09:45] <^Ocean^> well u need to turn it off to use apt
[09:46] <Admiral_Chicago> openedu, in the terminal type pstree
[09:46] <Admiral_Chicago> and if you see something branching of sudo or su, it is using root privilages
[09:47] <openedu> Admiral_Chicago, I do not see anything running under sudo.  I also do not see any evidence of a running package manager (like the update notifier?), but i'm not sure what to look for
[09:48] <mneptok> openedu: ps aux | grep db
[09:48] <mneptok> openedu: what does that tell  you?
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> bed time
[09:50] <openedu> mneptok, that gives me dbus-daemon and similar, nothing with libdb
[09:50] <mneptok> openedu: running a *SQL instance?
[09:51] <openedu> mneptok, I just stopped my 'mysql' instance.  i'll past the pstree for you
[09:51] <asmo674hurt> how i can edit particions of HDD after OS instalation??
[09:52] <^Ocean^> asmo674hurt, qtpartedit
[09:52] <mneptok> openedu: it's probably MySQL that's causing the lockfiles on the libdb stuff.
[09:52] <openedu> mneptok, http://paste.lisp.org/display/27321
[09:53] <asmo674hurt> ^Ocean^, ?
[09:53] <oroneta> hola, buenos dias a todos
[09:53] <^Ocean^> QTPart i think it might be called
[09:53] <^Ocean^> or qtpard edit
[09:54] <^Ocean^> search google for it .
[09:54] <daryl_> excuse me, I just shared a folder on my computer using smb.  I'm not sure why, but on my other linux computer I cna't see it.  When I go to my other linux computer I now see a "ubuntu" computer, but when I double click on it, nothing is shared.  Any suggestions?
[09:54] <openedu> mneptok, i don't see how exactly since I stopped mysql.  mysql is also not configured to use berkeley db.
[09:55] <openedu> i amended my paste to include the apt error: http://paste.lisp.org/display/27321#1
[09:55] <l-form> Hello everybody I just wonder isn't this a violation of the GPL when somebody sells ubuntu distros?
[09:55] <faisal_d> I-form, no... it's completely legal
[09:55] <oroneta> sorry, any channel to speak spanish about ubuntu??
[09:55] <faisal_d> !spanish
[09:55] <mof> Ok i umounted /home and now x-server spits errors and no gtk programs will start, any sugestions?
[09:55] <Rookie> !es
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:56] <daryl_> !smb
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <oroneta> thank
[09:56] <faisal_d> oroneta, de nada ;)
[09:56] <oroneta> gracias ;-)
[09:56] <matti> Morning.
[09:56] <Rookie> l-form - no, you can sell it , if you sell something with it, i.e support
[09:57] <Rookie> Suse selling too, they sell the books and manuals
[09:57] <daryl_> Excuse me, did anyone know the answer to my question?  : )  dont' wanna nag anyone.
[09:57] <oroneta> bye!
[09:57] <Rookie> !samba
[09:57] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:57] <l-form> Rookie: what they sell is a ubuntu installation cd only
[09:58] <mneptok> openedu: have you tried rebooting into the safe runlevel and uninstalling?
[09:58] <matti> I need to ask - it is possible, that perlinked system may not work well after hibernating 'em? I mean, sometimes when I wake my desktop from hibernation applications are not working or I cannot start any software. No errors in dmesg or logs. It is very odd.
[09:58] <Rookie> thats wrong, they need to sell something with it, not only the distro ... maybe they charge for the cd ... ?
[09:58] <openedu> openedu, no.  i just deleted the lock file, though
[09:58] <faisal_d> I-form, AFAIK, as long as you say it's Ubuntu, you can sell it... users always have the freedom to get it for free if they want to
[09:59] <faisal_d> rookie, yes, probably they charge for CD, and saving you time to download.. i suppose
[09:59] <SurfnKid> whats a good network management software package
[10:00] <l-form> rookie: probably, they charge 1 USD for that, so that must be the story, but still, those cds look like they'd been shipped free-of-charge by canonical to them
[10:00] <mneptok> l-form: do you have a URL for these people?
[10:01] <openedu> i am also having a lot of trouble getting a functioning lisp environment on ubuntu.  i cannot figure out how to install CMUCL 19c, for which there is no binary package despite a buggy 19a--the included version
[10:01] <daryl_> Hey Rookie, do I have to go through allt hat Samba stuff to be able to transfer files on a linux box?
[10:01] <zzarr> hello
[10:02] <Rookie> samba is easy, just install it and config smb.conf and set a user with smbpasswd
[10:02] <xzk> hey guys, is there any software for Ubuntu or Linux for C++ ? like MSVC++
[10:02] <l-form> so if canonical sends you free installation cds, wouldn't that be a violation to sell them to anybody?
[10:02] <Steil> Where can i blacklist modules from loading?
[10:02] <faisal_d> daryl_ if you don't want to mess with config files yourself, try isntalling webmin
[10:02] <Rookie> and dont forget to restart it after your done
[10:02] <xzk> so i can do my computer science homework
[10:03] <mneptok> xzk: do you want syntax highlighting in a text editor, or a full-fledged IDE>
[10:03] <Rookie> all configs in linux is to be found in /etc
[10:03] <mneptok> ?
[10:03] <zzarr> I have a gigant problem... X it won't start
[10:03] <zzarr> it puts my monitor in sleep mode
[10:03] <Saba> zzarr, what does it say in the log file
[10:03] <xzk> mneptok: whats the difference? I don't really know what I want.. I just want something that will work
[10:03] <xzk> in my class we use MSVC++
[10:03] <zzarr> what log file?
[10:04] <Saba> /var/log/xorg.log or something like that
[10:04] <mneptok> xzk: a text editor with syntax highlighting is much, MUCH easier to get set up and use.
[10:04] <Saba> wait a minute
[10:04] <zzarr> looking it up now
[10:04] <l-form> people, who can clarify the reselling issue and possible related violations
[10:04] <xzk> mneptok: do you have suggestions for a text editor and IDE ?
[10:05] <faisal_d> xzk, eclipse with the c++ plugin is an amazing IDE
[10:05] <mneptok> xzk: well, start with the built-in text editor
[10:05] <Saba> or gdm log or kdm log or something zzarr
[10:05] <mneptok> xzk: it does C++ syntax highlighting
[10:05] <Rookie> about gpl - http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt
[10:05] <Rookie> !gpl
[10:05] <ubotu> gpl is the GNU General Public License. See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
[10:05] <xzk> I'm not sure if I would know how to use a text editor... in my class we are learning to use MSVC++  ... i think it is IDE
[10:06] <matti> k, I assume, that nobody have similar problems... well then.
[10:06] <matti> ;]
[10:07] <xzk> faisal_d: where can i find eclipse and the C++ plugin
[10:07] <mof> mneptok: you don't get a gui designer with eclipse do you? just asking because I'm starting out with c# and mono.
[10:07] <mneptok> xzk: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Devtools/ides.html
[10:07] <faisal_d> they should be in the repos
[10:07] <mneptok> mof: no idea. never used eclipse.
[10:07] <mof> right cheers
[10:07] <xzk> mof you c++ ?
[10:07] <l-form> thanx gonna study it
[10:08] <mof> no, c# is a bit different.
[10:09] <zzarr> is there no driver for ATI Radeon X800 XT PE?
[10:09] <mneptok> mof: http://www.monodevelop.com/Main_Page
[10:09] <zzarr> only ATI Radeon X800 XT?
[10:10] <mof> xzk: you could try #C++ irc channel, really I probably know less than anyother ;P
[10:10] <xzk> thanks mof
[10:11] <zzarr> well PE only tells one it's running att a higher rate
[10:11] <zzarr> (Hz)
[10:11] <tuskernini> ARE there any Engineers using ubuntu here?
[10:12] <dario314> I'm an engineer but it has nothing to do with my using Ubuntu right now
[10:12] <tuskernini> dario314, do you know of a nice program doing signal analysis in ubuntu?
[10:12] <dario314> Can someone give me a gnutella host? Any host? This thing doesn't seem to come with a host list...
[10:13] <dario314> I've been using Ubuntu for about 24 hours, so...no :)
[10:13] <tuskernini> dario314, normal modulation and transforms
[10:13] <tuskernini> hehe
[10:13] <tuskernini> ok
[10:13] <mneptok> dario314: "this thing?"
[10:13] <l-form> after reading gpl as I grasp it, anyone can get cds from canonoical for free and then sell em to some poor bastard and make money outta nothin? is this normal?
[10:13] <dario314> mutella. I have it. It runs... doesn't connect to anything.
[10:14] <mneptok> l-form: depends on how they do it
[10:14] <anilomkar> how to install tomcat server in Ubuntu please help me???
[10:14] <zzarr> the log says "(WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found" this can't be good
[10:14] <faisal_d> tuskernini: i am no engineer.. but these might help: http://www.opensound.com/ossapps.html
[10:14] <mneptok> l-form: Ubuntu is a trademarked name. they cannot use that name when selling CDs.
[10:15] <tuskernini> faisal_d, thank you will try it
[10:15] <dario314> I think if I connect to one gnutella host, I'll get a list of other hosts... but I don't have a single one to try.
[10:15] <mneptok> dario314: you shouldn't need an initial address.
[10:16] <anilomkar> i want tomcat server in my Ubuntu what to do?
[10:17] <dario314> How not? mutella loads, but it doesn't connect to any hosts, it has no cached hosts... nothing
[10:17] <erUSUL> !info tomcat5
[10:17] <ubotu> tomcat5: Java Servlet 2.4 engine with JSP 2.0 support. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.30-9 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 336 kB
[10:17] <mneptok> dario314: what flavor of Ubuntu are you using?
[10:17] <dario314> Xubuntu dapper
[10:17] <mneptok> dario314: try gtk-gnutella
[10:18] <l-form> mnepok: there's this site that says hey go ahead and buy newest ubuntu dapper drake form us (xubuntu and kubuntu too) and i seriuously believe that those cds they sell come from free canonical ltd shipment
[10:19] <l-form> mneptok sorry for misspelling your nick
[10:20] <mneptok> l-form: got a URL?
[10:20] <NoobZaibot> can i update from the badger to the dapper via sshd ?
[10:20] <mneptok> l-form: it is 100% OK to resell CDs. it is 100% NOT ok to use our corporate trademarks to do so without permission.
[10:20] <NoobZaibot> or its necessary to be in front of the pc ?
[10:21] <mneptok> NoobZaibot: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:21] <l-form> mneptok: yeah its ukrainian thou, but i guess u'll be able to understand the page http://opensource.com.ua/products.php?info=p1293_Xubuntu-6-06-Dapper-desktop--1CD-.html
[10:21] <NoobZaibot> mneptok : Do you know how could i recompile the kernel after the update to modify the timer frequency ?
[10:22] <mneptok> l-form: spassibo
[10:22] <mneptok> NoobZaibot: timer frequency? as in the clock?
[10:22] <l-form> mneptok: bud laska
[10:23] <NoobZaibot> mneptok : Yes, it comes by default in 250 Hz, i wanna increase it to 1000 hz
[10:23] <joobie> Hi Guys.. Just curious if anyone here has completed their CISSP?
[10:24] <mneptok> NoobZaibot: for timekeeping purposes?
[10:24] <NoobZaibot> mneptok : No, i need it for tweaking a game server
[10:25] <mneptok> NoobZaibot: then you'll need kernel source and the proper compile time flags
[10:25] <dario314> mneptok, gtk-gnutella works better. Nicer interface too. Thanks!
[10:25] <mneptok> NoobZaibot: and i don't know those off the top of my head. but i'm sure it's documented.
[10:26] <mneptok> dario314: np. glad you're happy. :)
[10:27] <l-form> mneptok: so what do u think bout that? shall it be submitted as a violation?
[10:27] <mneptok> l-form: talking to management now. thanks.
[10:27] <NoobZaibot> mneptok : yes but i am trying to recompile the kernel now and i am getting errors as hell
[10:27] <NoobZaibot> my first kernel recompilation :)
[10:28] <mneptok> NoobZaibot: kernel compilation is not something easily explained in the context of IRC. but there are a lot of really good tutorials. before you dive in, do some reading about "water," and "bathing suits." ;)
[10:29] <NoobZaibot> mneptok: i know. I am trying to recompile it just for that Hz rate. All the tutorials say that it would be easy ! X)
[10:30] <jwhitlark> The problem is that once someone is good enough to write a tutorial, it is easy for them!
[10:31] <NoobZaibot> true.
[10:31] <daurn|afk> whats an app for burning audio cds that supports .wma?
[10:32] <daurn|afk> K3b doesn't
[10:33] <l-form> gnome baker?
[10:33] <hastesaver> hello. The root partition is full, what can I do?
[10:33] <NoobZaibot> suicide.
[10:33] <jpjacobs> daurn|afk, i'd convert the wma's to something else with like mencoder , or transcode
[10:34] <linopil> check this survey out  ! http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT5816278551.html
[10:34] <daurn|afk> i don't want them to loose any more quality
[10:34] <hastesaver> NoobZaibot, what else can I do? I'd like to know all my options first
[10:35] <linopil> hastesaver GParted bootable CD  can help you resize partition
[10:35] <linopil> also boot fron install ubuntu CD
[10:36] <linopil> and try to clean  /tmp
[10:36] <linopil> hastesaver: ?
[10:36] <hastesaver> linopil, actually, my system is still working fine... there are about 20 MB free, so I was trying to see what I should delete
[10:36] <linopil> 20 mb is bad you  understand hastesaver
[10:36] <hastesaver> linopil, yes, I know it's very little... that's why I want to free up more space
[10:37] <linopil> go root
[10:37] <daurn|afk> hastesaver: old .debs?
[10:37] <linopil> hastesaver:  df -h
[10:38] <daurn|afk> hastesaver: empty the trash?
[10:38] <hastesaver> linopil, yes, /var/cache is 427 MB..
[10:38] <timo> what is this?
[10:38] <linopil> good place to start aint it?
[10:38] <daurn|afk> timo: an irc channel
[10:38] <hastesaver> A tiny 4.7 GB hardisk
[10:38] <daurn|afk> whats an app for burning audio cds that supports .wma?
[10:38] <linopil> all system on 4.7 GB ?
[10:39] <hastesaver> Great. Available "530M". Should be enough for now, I guess? :-)
[10:39] <hastesaver> linopil, oh, sorry. The root partition is 4.7 G
[10:39] <linopil> good luck hastesaver
[10:39] <linopil> http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT5816278551.html
[10:40] <daurn|afk> anyone?
[10:40] <hastesaver> daurn|afk, I think converting is your best bet
[10:40] <_Er1K_> daurn|afk:  use mplay or vlc to transcode them first
[10:41] <hastesaver> daurn|afk, I mean, even the audio CD cannot have .wma files, it has to be a special cdaudio format... you know that, right?
[10:41] <_Er1K_> unless he is puting it in a player with native wma support, but we will leave that for a different discussion
[10:42] <hastesaver> _Er1K_, right, such players are better left unmentioned :-)
[10:42] <mneptok> such players are the spawn of the devil :P
[10:42] <hastesaver> daurn|afk, does your system burn .wav files, BTW? Someone was complaining the other day that gnome-baker and serpentine don't work with .wav files...
[10:43] <daurn|afk> uh
[10:43] <daurn|afk> no idea
[10:43] <LookTJ> yo
[10:43] <faisal_d> wb lookTj
[10:43] <LookTJ> who was i talking to in a pm?
[10:43] <daurn|afk> i haven't burned a cd NOT from image in a year or more
[10:44] <daurn|afk> !icecast
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <hastesaver> daurn|afk, anyway, mplayer <filename> -ao pcm will create a .wav file out of it. You can then (try to) easily burn it
[10:44] <_Er1K_> I don't disagree, but my car head can play them directory, although it never has.  I have never, and don't want to ever feed it WMA content, but transcoding seems like trading bad for worse.
[10:46] <hastesaver> _Er1K_, but daurn|afk wants an audio CD, not a "CD for wma players". Right?
[10:47] <daurn|afk> correct
[10:47] <_Er1K_> it was never clear what his target capabilities where :)
[10:47] <_Er1K_> ok, then, now we know
[10:47] <daurn|afk> i have a few i want to burn
[10:47] <daurn|afk> i don't want to have to do it file by file
[10:48] <_Er1K_> I think vlc will do entire directories, which makes life a little easlier
[10:48] <_Er1K_> easir
[10:48] <_Er1K_> easier
[10:48] <daurn|afk> vlc burns?
[10:48] <Squee> Does anyone know how to get a patched madwifi driver so you can do packet injections?
[10:48] <_Er1K_> burn? no, transcode?  yes
[10:48] <_Er1K_> but it is 2 am, I am half asleep, wife wants me elsewhere.  Night, friendly people
[10:49] <hastesaver> daurn|afk, what version of k3b, BTW?
[10:50] <daurn|afk> latest in synaptic
[10:50] <hastesaver> daurn|afk, someone claims "K3b version 0.12 supports wma" somewhere...
[10:50] <l-form> mneptok: any result so far? sorry for bein such a pain in the ass but that really bothers me, the people cheating others, using somebody else's achievements to earn their living, violating the very principle of the free everything 0)
[10:51] <mneptok> l-form: they are allowed to do that as long as the give proper credit for the trademarks
[10:51] <mneptok> s/the/they/
[10:52] <l-form> what do you mean proper credit, a line saying this has been developed by canonical ltd, all rights reserved or something?
[10:52] <mneptok> "Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and others are trademarks of Canonical, Ltd. This site is not affiliated with Canonical, Ltd."
[10:53] <l-form> there's no such line there whatsoever!
[10:53] <ubuntu> hi
[10:53] <faisal_d> wow.. now i can speak with ubuntu itself :p
[10:53] <hastesaver> l-form, which site are you talking about?
[10:54] <ubuntu> (:
[10:55] <l-form> a  software portal selling ubuntu installation cds http://opensource.com.ua/product1293.html#comments
[10:56] <l-form> what it says there is that all trademarks are owned by their respective owners or smth like that
[10:57] <hastesaver> l-form, 5.00 ??? seems a reasonable price :-) [Even though I have no clue what the currency's value is...]
[10:57] <faisal_d> I-form: that is giving proper credit to the trademark owners
[10:57] <hastesaver> l-form, they will have costs of shipping and handling; do you expect them to ShipIt(TM) for free? ;-)
[10:59] <NET||abuse> what is the plan for edgy seeing as dapper is the LTS release??
[11:00] <erUSUL> !schedule
[11:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:00] <mof> Ok i screwed my self, umounted my home directory, was on it's own partition, and deleted it from etc/mtab. Now no mater what i cant mount it.
[11:01] <wickedpuppy> no ah thats not what NET||abuse asks ... NET||abuse i think it will also be a LTS ..clearly i do not know :P
[11:01] <NET||abuse> exactly, that's what i meant
[11:01] <l-form> Faisal_d: still i think its not right to resell cd shipped by canonical for free, wouldnt u agree
[11:01] <hastesaver> NET||abuse, no, it's not a LTS. In fact, it's very Edgy :-)
[11:01] <berent> has anyone upgraded their kernel to dapper
[11:01] <berent> from breezy
[11:01] <NET||abuse> yeh, i did it
[11:01] <berent> how
[11:02] <hastesaver> !upgrade
[11:02] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:02] <NET||abuse> simple version... change your source.list, then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:02] <NET||abuse> i shut down gdm and ran on console
[11:02] <NET||abuse> just to be sure ;)
[11:02] <erUSUL> NET||abuse: wickedpuppy it will not be lts. the lts release is dapper...
[11:02] <NET||abuse> and foolllowed the upgrade mentioned above
[11:02] <sc0tt> hey folks
[11:02] <berent> what did u change in source.lst
[11:02] <sc0tt> :)
[11:03] <NET||abuse> will edgy features be integrated into dapper then as it progresses?
[11:03] <wickedpuppy> eracc, okie
[11:03] <wickedpuppy> thanks
[11:03] <hastesaver> berent, you have a good internet connection, I presume?
[11:03] <mneptok> NET||abuse: depends on the feature, and its criticality tto proper operation
[11:04] <hastesaver> berent,  Whatever. Hit Alt-F2, and type:        gksudo "update-manager"
[11:04] <dibblego> when I boot off the live CD I get a message "ipw3945 Radio Frequency Kill Switch is on" and my wireless card is not available -- wtf is that?
[11:04] <mneptok> dibblego: check your BIOS?
[11:04] <NET||abuse> mneptok, hehe, ok, beryl?
[11:04] <NET||abuse> ;)
[11:05] <mneptok> NET||abuse: no comment.
[11:05] <dibblego> mneptok, but I haven't touched the bios -- it was working fine
[11:05] <mneptok> dibblego: with Ubuntu?
[11:05] <erUSUL> NET||abuse: the definition of stabel is "*no* new features *only* bug fixes"
[11:05] <lalala> 5https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases /q ubotu
[11:05] <dibblego> mneptok, yes
[11:05] <NET||abuse> erUSUL, doh. :(
[11:06] <hastesaver> NET||abuse, you can't have "stable" and "experimental" features on the same system :)
[11:06] <mneptok> dibblego: then i suggest you look around in the BIOS and in Windows to see if anything changed.
[11:06] <dibblego> mneptok, I just switched it on today and got that message for some reason, so I tried the live CD and saw that message
[11:06] <dibblego> mneptok, I don't run windows, but ok thanks
[11:06] <mneptok> dibblego: you switched what on today?
[11:06] <dibblego> mneptok, the machine
[11:07] <hAPPY_mAJA> How do you extract .rpm-files in ubuntu. The arc-tool doesn't work..
[11:07] <erUSUL> NET||abuse: what's the problem? if you want new features just upgrade to edgy when it's released
[11:07] <dibblego> according to BIOS, wireless is enabled
[11:08] <NET||abuse> erUSUL, i suppose i need to find out more bout what new features will be in there and if it's worth the potential headaches..
[11:08] <Alex232> I've installed eagle-usb-data and eagle-usb-utils packages, but my Sagem 800 ADSL modem doesn't work.
[11:08] <Alex232> After "startadsl" command it writes "Modem is not operational! Check eaglestat result to know its state!"
[11:08] <mneptok> dibblego: manufacturer?
[11:08] <Alex232> Pls help
[11:08] <dibblego> mneptok, Dell
[11:09] <l-form> does anyone know about cyrillics in gnome-icu?
[11:09] <gandolfthewizard> gm everyone
[11:09] <NET||abuse> i would love to use something such as beryl if it improved the performance and features of Xgl/compiz
[11:09] <gandolfthewizard> i have a quetion
[11:09] <hAPPY_mAJA> eey! .rpm???
[11:09] <mneptok> dibblego: have you contacted them to find out what they do to the 3945 to possibly cause that message? because i have a Thinkpad with a 3945 and have never seen anything like that.
[11:09] <gandolfthewizard> i am tryig to install from a cd how do i do that
[11:09] <dibblego> mneptok, that message comes from ubuntu during the boot of the live CD
[11:10] <gandolfthewizard> i have wine and i need to install win office 2000
[11:10] <dibblego> mneptok, then the wireless card simply isn't there
[11:10] <l-form> i mean everybody else in ru-net sees them as question marks
[11:10] <mneptok> dibblego: right, and what causes Ubuntu to believe that that situation is the case?
[11:10] <dibblego> mneptok, no idea - nothing changed as far as I can tell
[11:10] <Alex232> will anybody help me, please?
[11:10] <hAPPY_mAJA> gandolfthewizard: openoffice is much better, but if you insist i recomend VMware
[11:11] <gandolfthewizard> vm qare ok ty
[11:11] <berent> thanks guys i am able to get the upgrade to dapper
[11:11] <mneptok> dibblego: which is why i mentioned contacting Dell to see how their firmware interacts with that device.
[11:11] <dibblego> mneptok, ok thanks
[11:12] <hastesaver> daurn|afk, so, what did you do, finally?
[11:12] <gandolfthewizard> oh one more ?
[11:12] <gandolfthewizard> can i run mac software on linux on a pc
[11:12] <mneptok> no
[11:13] <gandolfthewizard> ok ty
[11:13] <Alex232> I've installed eagle-usb-data and eagle-usb-utils packages, but my Sagem 800 ADSL modem doesn't work. After startadsl command it writes "Modem is not operational! Check eaglestat result to know its state!" eaglestat writes "Modem waiting for driver response. Please send DSP (eaglectrl -d)". What can I do?
[11:13] <gandolfthewizard> thought i would ask
[11:13] <dibblego> mneptok, I think I may have figured it out :)
[11:13] <hAPPY_mAJA> gandolfthewizard: yeah, with VMware!
[11:13] <mneptok> dibblego: suave
[11:13] <dibblego> mneptok, I have pressed one of those Fn+<something> buttons
[11:13] <hastesaver> gandolfthewizard, but most of the common apps have near-equivalents, though
[11:14] <mneptok> dibblego: Don't Do That(tm)
[11:14] <dibblego> mneptok, yep, my wireless is back - thanks for the tips
[11:14] <mneptok> np
[11:15] <VoX> are there any programs available that will sort through a collection of images, and tag which ones are similar, based on the /image/ itself?
[11:16] <Alex232> nobody will help me :(
[11:16] <VoX> doesnt look like thar be many/any people around at present
[11:16] <berent> Alex232: I think there is no driver
[11:17] <Alex232> isn't eagle-usb-data a driver?
[11:17] <berent> Alex232 : for that modem?
[11:18] <AlinuxOS> Hello, how can I report a bug for Debian if I use Ubuntu ?
[11:19] <Alex232> Sagem provide eagle usb 1.9.9, and I found eagle-usb 2.xx in Ubuntu's distr
[11:19] <Alex232> it is the same driver, isn't it?
[11:20] <berent> not sure
[11:20] <Alex232> any it was written in package description that it is for Sagem 800
[11:20] <Alex232> anyway*
[11:21] <Alex232> and startadsl and stopadsl commands appeared after installation
[11:22] <Alex232> but it waits for some response from driver...
[11:22] <mneptok> Alex232: did you use sudo when launching those scripts?
[11:22] <daryl_> Excuse me, how do I tell what kernel I have?
[11:22] <sc0tt> Anyone here have a 5.1 creative sound card?
[11:22] <mneptok> daryl_: uname -a
[11:22] <sc0tt> daryl_, uname -a
[11:22] <sc0tt> :)
[11:22] <Alex232> no
[11:22] <Alex232> will it affect?
[11:22] <mneptok> Alex232: do so, please
[11:23] <timo> how can I list my udb devices?
[11:23] <sc0tt> lsusb
[11:23] <sc0tt> i would assume :P
[11:23] <timo> thanks
[11:23] <sc0tt> haven't had a chance to see what binutils etc come with bunutu
[11:23] <Caplain> i didnt have my tv plugged into my computer when i started it up and i dont want to have to restart to get the tv working, is there a way to init it?
[11:24] <daryl_> mneptok and sc0tt: this instruction is telling me to use synaptic to search for "linux-restricted-modules", and then install the appropriate module.  but I'm just not sure what is appropriate.
[11:24] <Alex232> okay, will try now  it is so difficult to shut down windows, load linux, shut down linux and go windows again to get here
[11:24] <Alex232> thanks
[11:24] <mneptok> daryl_: *what* instruction? for what?
[11:24] <daryl_> mneptok: some instructions for installing the appropriate support for my video card.
[11:25] <mneptok> daryl_: apt-cache search restricted
[11:25] <wickedpuppy> daryl_, it would be better for you to tell us what is your video card , where you see the instruction
[11:25] <tuskernini> THREE HURRAYS for the kind soul who sent a free HDD to another ubuntu user (brandon) http://planet.ubuntu.com/ !!! way to go... wish i had the resources to be able to do that!
[11:25] <erUSUL> daryl_: linux-restricted-modules is a package that you have to install that comes with a few modules
[11:25] <xerxes1358> Hello
[11:26] <xerxes1358> He guys how is ATI RAEDON 3D support in Linux these days?
[11:26] <tuskernini> THREE HURRAYS for the kind soul who sent a free HDD to another ubuntu user (brandon) http://planet.ubuntu.com/ !!! way to go... wish i had the resources to be able to do that!
[11:26] <mneptok> xerxes1358: given ATIs utter refusal to open even a tiny piece of their drivers, not as good as it could be.
[11:26] <xerxes1358> ah ok
[11:26] <daryl_> thanks guys, I think its a 686 I needed.
[11:26] <tuskernini> THREE HURRAYS for the kind soul who sent a free HDD to another ubuntu user (brandon) http://planet.ubuntu.com/ !!! way to go... wish i had the resources to be able to do that!
[11:27] <xerxes1358> is the XGL and nice desktop effects available today possible ? (Not talking about GAming)
[11:27] <tuskernini> sorry that was the last one... great stuff, thats ubuntu spirit
[11:28] <squee> How do I apply a .patch to a source directory?
[11:28] <sc0tt> I don't think ubuntu detected my soundcard right =p
[11:28] <halex> squee: patch -p0 < patch.patch
[11:29] <squee> thanks i'll try that
[11:31] <Frustrated_Noob> quick question, how am i to sudo bash diskmounter when it doesn't recognize the file on my desktop?
[11:33] <wickedpuppy> recognise the file ?
[11:33] <wickedpuppy> can explain ?
[11:34] <zim_> hi all when will 6.10 be out ???
[11:34] <CheekyBoinc> 26.10
[11:34] <zim_> ty
[11:34] <Frustrated_Noob> well, i have the file diskmounter on the desktop in ubuntu.  When i go into the terminal and type sudo bash diskmounter, as per the instructions, it says it can't find the file.
[11:35] <wickedpuppy> dismounter ?
[11:35] <wickedpuppy> file name is diskmounter ?
[11:35] <Frustrated_Noob> yes
[11:35] <wickedpuppy> which instruction ? can point me to it ?
[11:35] <Frustrated_Noob> the one in the diskmounter file
[11:36] <mneptok> uhh
[11:36] <mneptok> bash? what's that there for?
[11:36] <mneptok> what is it you're trying to do with this file?
[11:36] <wickedpuppy> i am confused ..
[11:36] <wickedpuppy> lol
[11:36] <Frustrated_Noob> trying to get it so that ubuntu will be able to read ntfs formats
[11:37] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: have you looked in /media?
[11:38] <Frustrated_Noob> ah, no
[11:38] <Frustrated_Noob> unfortunately, i dont have it on dual boot
[11:38] <wickedpuppy> don't have what ?
[11:38] <Frustrated_Noob> one other question.....  How do I write to the file system disk?
[11:38] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: write what?
[11:39] <Frustrated_Noob> anything.
[11:39] <Frustrated_Noob> i have only read permissions on the desk.
[11:39] <Frustrated_Noob> er, disk
[11:39] <mneptok> right
[11:39] <wickedpuppy> Frustrated_Noob, can ask things clearly ? i have no idea what is it that you want ...
[11:39] <mneptok> because only the root user can write wherever they please
[11:39] <Frustrated_Noob> i am root
[11:39] <mneptok> this is called "security."
[11:40] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[11:40] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: you are not root. i can almost guarantee it.
[11:41] <Frustrated_Noob> interesting.  then how does one get root on one's own computer after one has installed ubuntu?
[11:41] <Frustrated_Noob> and strange how the terminal says i am root
[11:41] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: type "who"
[11:41] <mneptok> (in a temrinal)
[11:42] <erUSUL> !sudo
[11:42] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:42] <erUSUL> !sudo > Frustrated_Noob
[11:42] <erUSUL> Frustrated_Noob: sudo -i gives a root shell
[11:43] <basvg> hey all
[11:43] <mneptok> and wandering around your machine as root, and with a nick that includes the word "Noob" makes me somewhat more than uneasy
[11:43] <Frustrated_Noob> see, i'm not so noob that i can't figure out to have a back up.
[11:43] <orion> can someone please help. my resources shows 97% CPU usage from events/0 ?
[11:44] <Frustrated_Noob> they won't orion
[11:44] <Frustrated_Noob> they'll tell you what an idiot you are first
[11:44] <basvg> a while ago I noticed a thread on xcompmgr messing up gnome-panel in the sense that the panel which shows 'lock screen' 'reboot' etc. doesn't work anymore... just installed taht stuff again and it still happens. ANy clue how/when that'll be fixed?
[11:44] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: i have used Unix for almost 25 years. i work for Canonical. i don't wander around my machine as root. you do the math. and then kindly tell me exactly when i called you an idiot.
[11:45] <mneptok> orion: what does top tell you?
[11:45] <emiliogr> hola
[11:45] <Rookie> !es
[11:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:45] <Frustrated_Noob> just because you don't use the word doesn't mean you don't use it mneptok.  and as for wandering around the machine as root, i was doing as told by several members of this community.
[11:45] <orion> ok, one minute
[11:46] <Frustrated_Noob> I have not wandered around the machine as root, but believe what you want.
[11:46] <Frustrated_Noob> obviously ubuntu was not the wisest choice for me into my first foray into the linux cosmos
[11:47] <Frustrated_Noob> This only tells me I've wasted the past week pulling together the resources so that I can make a safe migration.  I'll merely reformat the hd to something windows recognizes and use it as is.
[11:48] <Rookie> If ubuntu is not for you, try slackware, latest version got out yesterday ... 11.0
[11:48] <Frustrated_Noob> not going to bother with linux anymore, rookie.  i'm tired of being treated like a moron.
[11:48] <wickedpuppy> Frustrated_Noob, its ok not to like ubuntu ... but pls don't troll here ..
[11:49] <Rookie> well, linux is real easy, ive done it for 8 years and i find it easy
[11:49] <orion> mneptok, post the whole thing?
[11:49] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: then take advice from people with more experience than you and stop putting words in their mouths. you'll get along much better with people if you don't start your relations with them by ignoring them and making up things they said.
[11:49] <sc0tt> Anyone know how to get stereo upmixed to 5.1 on a creative card?
[11:49] <mneptok> one man's opinion, of course
[11:49] <sc0tt> Windows used to have a little util called EAX
[11:49] <sc0tt> that would set the card to upmix
[11:49] <mneptok> orion: what is the very first entry in top? the one using the most CPU?
[11:50] <Rookie> linux is about to understand security on several lvl's and networking and hardware vs software ...
[11:50] <Frustrated_Noob> I haven't made up anything.  I asked for help in how to get diskmounter to run.  Then I asked how i can write to the hd.  i was told that i wasn't root, when I am, and I was told that i wasn't making any sense.
[11:51] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: you said i called you an "idiot," when i most certainly said no such thing. your response was "just because you didn't say it doesn't mean you didn;t say it."
[11:51] <cmc_> xgl
[11:51] <orion> top - 02:48:02 up 24 min,  3 users,  load average: 1.72, 2.71, 3.02
[11:51] <orion> Cpu(s):  8.6% us, 89.0% sy,  0.0% ni,  1.7% id,  0.0% wa,  0.3% hi,  0.3% si
[11:51] <orion> not sure if that's it? sorry
[11:51] <sc0tt> next line orion ;)
[11:51] <Peter77> hi, the battery monito for ubuntu is a bit faulty
[11:51] <orion> Mem:   2076340k total,   325144k used,  1751196k free,     7724k buffers
[11:52] <mneptok> orion: look a little bit down at the list of running processes. which one is at the top of the list, using the most CPU?
[11:52] <Peter77> some times it appears others it doesn't
[11:52] <Frustrated_Noob> Hmm, you tell me I don't have root when I do.    I'll try elsewhere, maybe someone will help.
[11:52] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: i didn't say "you don;t have root"
[11:52] <wickedpuppy> orion, below PID , USER and so on
[11:52] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: i said "you are not root"
 Frustrated_Noob: you are not root. i can almost guarantee it.
[11:52] <Rookie> depence on how you got to root account ... you can get to root on several ways but few gives you your paths
[11:53] <wickedpuppy> mneptok, pls ...
[11:53] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: the difference between saying "you do not own boots" and "you are not wearing boots"
[11:53] <sc0tt> lol
[11:53] <sc0tt> best analogy ever
[11:53] <Peter77> can anyone help my fix the vattery monitor?
[11:53] <sc0tt> :>
[11:53] <Frustrated_Noob> doesn't matter.  thing says root when i'm in the terminal
[11:53] <Peter77> I'm using ubuntu with both the KDE and Gnome desktops installed on a Sony Vaio PCG-fr215s Notebook.
[11:53] <Peter77> The Battery monitor isn't always visible (random after restart/shut down).
[11:53] <Peter77> Can anyone help me fix this so that it is visible 100% of the time?
[11:54] <mneptok> Peter77: have you tried removing it from the panel when it is visible, and re-adding it?
[11:54] <Peter77> yeah
[11:54] <Frustrated_Noob> Well, thanks for the "useful" information.
[11:55] <orion> 4 root      39  19     0    0    0 R 97.2  0.0  21:17.85 events/0
[11:55] <orion> 4460 root      15   0 45732  21m 7536 S  0.3  1.1   1:31.36 Xorg
[11:55] <mneptok> Peter77: FYI, the battery monitor does not appear when the machine is fulyl charged and plugged into AC.
[11:55] <mneptok> *fully
[11:55] <Peter77> the one in the panel just says "ac is connected, no battery", and the other one near the clock just doesn't appear when thats displayed
[11:55] <mneptok> orion: and events/0 is the one eating CPU?
[11:55] <Peter77> but my machine isn't fully charged
[11:56] <Peter77> some times it's nearly flat and ends up cutting out because theres no monitor
[11:56] <mneptok> Peter77: remove one or the other
[11:56] <Peter77> ?
[11:56] <mneptok> Peter77: you said you have one monitor in a panel, and another up by the clock.
[11:56] <Peter77> the one by the clock appears when power is detected
[11:56] <mneptok> get rid of one of those and just let a single instance try to sort things out
[11:57] <erUSUL> orion: tail -f /var/log/messages maybe faulty hardware is generating a lot of events...?
[11:57] <Peter77> I also use kubuntu
[11:57] <Peter77> which seems to have the same problem
[11:57] <Peter77> it's appeared in kubuntu now so I'm going to switch to gnome to see if it works there too
[11:57] <erUSUL> orion: also  'sudo udevmonitor'
[11:58] <mibuk> I've raised a bug in Launchpad against libsdl1.2 and nothings happening with it.  It's a known bug upstream that has been fixed, and I posted hte individual patch, or requested that the maintainer upgraded package to latest version.  Is htere anyhting else I can do?  Is it possible for me to either add the patch to the current ubuntu deb, or to update the current deb to latest upstream version, or is that something only the package
[11:58] <mibuk> maintainer can do?
[11:58] <Peter77> (kubuntu desktop btw)
[11:58] <Peter77> yeah it's working in gnome now
[11:59] <Peter77> I'm going to restart and go into kde instead of going into gnome which I normally do and the monitor doesn't appear
[11:59] <orion> sorry, I am having trouble with irssi, I will be back in a second
[12:01] <Peter77> kde says "no power source found"
[12:01] <orion> ok sorry, based on this-> 4 root      39  19     0    0    0 R 97.2  0.0  21:17.85 events/0
[12:02] <Peter77> so it must something below the GUI level
[12:02] <orion> it shows 97% so does that mean it could be faulty hardware you said?
[12:02] <erUSUL> orion: i said to check the kernel log just in case...
[12:03] <orion> ok sorry, could you tell me how one more time?
[12:03] <erUSUL> orion: tail -f /var/log/messages
[12:03] <erUSUL> orion: also  'sudo udevmonitor'
[12:03] <mibuk> anybody know the answer to my question?
[12:03] <Peter77> I didn't have this trouble when running suse on my laptop
[12:05] <daurn|afk> ok
[12:05] <daurn|afk> how do you burn wmas
[12:05] <daurn|afk> whats the trick
[12:05] <afx> mibuk/ what is your question?
[12:06] <mibuk> I've raised a bug in Launchpad against libsdl1.2 and nothings happening with it.  It's a known bug upstream that has been fixed, and I posted hte individual patch, or requested that the maintainer upgraded package to latest version.  Is htere anyhting else I can do?  Is it possible for me to either add the patch to the current ubuntu deb, or to update the current deb to latest upstream version, or is that something only the package
[12:06] <mibuk> maintainer can do?
[12:06] <mibuk> Basically, can I do anything after raising the bug (which I did about a month ago).
[12:06] <rpedro> what's a good newsgroup client?
[12:07] <mneptok> rpedro: gui or cli?
[12:07] <rpedro> gui
[12:07] <mneptok> Pan
[12:07] <Peter77> can anyone help me?
[12:07] <rpedro> ah, thanks
[12:07] <mibuk> its bug #61389
[12:08] <HerC1> hello
[12:08] <mneptok> mibuk: if you have a bug in LP, and a fix, paste the fix to a new post
[12:08] <HerC1> i have question
[12:08] <HerC1> how to install my asus ati 9550 Gt
[12:08] <wickedpuppy> !ati
[12:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:09] <mibuk> mneptok: I did that already
[12:09] <mneptok> mibuk: and is the fix in Edgy?
[12:10] <Przemcio78> hi, could anyone post his/hers /boor/grub/menu.lst file?
[12:10] <HerC1> yeah and i have other question when i start the pC and choose ubuntu with grub loader when the linux has start loading my monitor writed OUT OF RANGE 35//86 hz khz i don't remember
[12:10] <mibuk> mneptok: Not that I can see, I cant run edgy on my dev laptop, X broke seriously last time I tried, and had to reformat and reinstall dapper :(
[12:11] <Przemcio78> i mean could anyone paste it somewhere? i'd like to check sth out
[12:11] <Peter77> a little help plz
[12:11] <mneptok> mibuk: until Edgy definitevely ships without the fix i wouldn't panic
[12:11] <mneptok> *definitively
[12:11] <Peter77> I need this battery monitor to work because I use my laptop to take notes in lectures
[12:11] <daurn|afk> anyone???
[12:11] <daurn|afk> how do you burn wmas
[12:11] <camer0ff> have a quick question about ubuntu and changing monitors
[12:12] <camer0ff> do i just ask?
[12:12] <Peter77> good thing I didn't format the windows partition, windows actually has it's uses!
[12:12] <BuZzY> !firefox
[12:12] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:12] <mibuk> mneptok:  I think it should be backported to Dapper.  It means that all pygame and SDL based applications dont work with a compiz desktop.  thats a lot of software that wont work.
[12:13] <Peter77> any one know whats wrong with the battery monitor in ubuntu?
[12:13] <wickedpuppy> Przemcio78, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25643/
[12:13] <mneptok> mibuk: people sticking with a fault-tolerant release like Dapper should not be using half-baked OGL accelerators like compiz, IMO
[12:13] <sc0tt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1579043#post1579043
[12:13] <sc0tt> incase anyone is bored and wants to help :>
[12:13] <HerC1> wickedpuppy,  my video card is not ati radeon it it ASUS ATI what to do
[12:14] <Peter77> I'm using ubuntu with both the KDE and Gnome desktops installed on a Sony Vaio PCG-fr215s Notebook.
[12:14] <Peter77> The Battery monitor isn't always visible (random after restart/shut down).
[12:14] <Peter77> Can anyone help me fix this so that it is visible 100% of the time?
[12:14] <HerC1> !asus
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <halex> mneptok: but remember, it's gonna be a while before compiz is gonna be classified as stable
[12:14] <wickedpuppy> HerC1, ah ... i thought there is only one ati ...
[12:14] <camer0ff> just wondering how i get ubuntu to recognise my new monitor, it currently is only supporting 1024x768 and it should be able to support higher
[12:14] <HerC1> Make sure the following things are true about your video card:
[12:14] <HerC1>     *
[12:14] <HerC1>       It is a 'Radeon' card
[12:15] <HerC1> it isn't radeon card
[12:15] <Przemcio78> wickedpuppy: thanks
[12:15] <halex> Peter77: Change your Power Management preferences, see the General tab on the dialog, and check the Always Show radio box..
[12:15] <wickedpuppy> Przemcio78, np ... save it somewhere safe :P
[12:15] <Mille> lo xD
[12:15] <wickedpuppy> HerC1, it is or is it not ?
[12:15] <Peter77> halex: ok I'll try that
[12:15] <mneptok> halex: precisely, which is why ensuring that every app under the sun works with such unstable code is sorta futile.
[12:16] <Mille> I'm wondering. Isn't it possible to move the ubuntu partition (ext3) forward with gparted on the live-cd?
[12:16] <Przemcio78> i wanted to change some option in my archlinux grub that was default in ubuntu :)
[12:16] <HerC1> wickedpuppy,  IT"S NOT RADEON
[12:16] <HerC1> asus ati not ati radeon
[12:16] <Przemcio78> thanks
[12:17] <wickedpuppy> HerC1, relax .. sorry about that .. nope i guess i can't help ya there ... perhaps others can
[12:17] <halex> mneptok: the only real stopgap measure is to run two X servers, which is a pain in the rear for the average joe..
[12:17] <NineTeen67Comet> HI all .. Does anyone know is there another desktop manager competing with Compiz? I thought I saw something the other day on my other computer called by*** can't remember totally ..
[12:17] <HerC1> wickedpuppy,  sry just i tring to install this video card much time ago...
[12:17] <HerC1> and I can't
[12:17] <soon> Hi Folks - attached new camera via USB, doesnt auto-mount, dmesg: usb 4-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
[12:18] <soon> configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices
[12:18] <wickedpuppy> HerC1, have you bugged asus ?
[12:18] <halex> brb guys, gotta install edgy..
[12:18] <wickedpuppy> after all its their hardware
[12:18] <HerC1> asus ati 9550 GT i don't know
[12:18] <erUSUL> HerC1: you are confused radeon is the name of the chip as is gforce for nvidia athought asus make cards with both chips (radeon and gforce) and chipmakers (ati and nvidia)
[12:18] <soon> any suggestions what I should mount? It doesnt turn up as a /dev/sda or sdb
[12:18] <Peter77> halex, ok I've done that, it says "computer is running on battery power but is displaying no level
[12:19] <HerC1> erUSUL,  so ? i can install fglrx driver and 3d accelelator will be working ?
[12:19] <erUSUL> HerC1: so yes yours is a radeon chip card (rxxx in the lspci aoutput)
[12:19] <Thandavarayan> HerC1, yeah...erUSUL is right.
[12:19] <daurn|afk> anyone at all
[12:19] <daurn|afk> how do you burn wmas
[12:19] <Peter77> plugged in AC, now it says computer is running on AC
[12:19] <erUSUL> HerC1: yes
[12:19] <erUSUL> !ati
[12:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:19] <HerC1> thanks
[12:19] <mibuk> mneptok: I'd like to point out, it's not as simple as making a single app work with the unstable but very popular XGL/AIGLX servers.  it's making a dynamicly loaded library that can and is used by a number of third party applications and a large number of games, fixing this makes all of them work correctly.  not fixing it breaks all those applicaitons and a number of games
[12:19] <erUSUL> !caps > HerC1
[12:19] <wickedpuppy> lol
[12:19] <HerC1> but i want to ask other
[12:20] <wickedpuppy> thats what i showed him ....
[12:20] <HerC1> when i start loading linux
[12:20] <Peter77> ok so it detects where the battery power is coming from but still no level
[12:20] <HerC1> my monitor writes out of range..
[12:20] <HerC1> and when X will be loader
[12:20] <erUSUL> !patience > HerC1
[12:20] <camer0ff> hey i have just connected a new monitor to the computer, how do i get it to recognise the new monitor so i can set the resolution higher?
[12:20] <speud> how can i do to go the french server
[12:20] <mibuk> daurn|afk:  what do you mean burn WMA's?  Do you want them just on CD as files?  or on DVD's / CD's as a Video CD that will play in a DVD player?
[12:21] <THX-1138> daurn - Re-ecode them to something else? wav or mp3? - you can't really do it.
[12:21] <daurn|afk> as an audio cd
[12:21] <HerC1> sry
[12:21] <HerC1> erUSUL,
[12:21] <HerC1> :
[12:21] <mibuk> daurn|afk: then you need to re-encode them as WAV files
[12:21] <daurn|afk> THX-1138: i don't want to lose anymore quality (so not mp3)
[12:22] <daurn|afk> mibuk: is there a prog WITH gui that will do that?
[12:22] <cpk2> camer0ff: if it doesnt detect the monitor automatically you can put modelines into xorg yourself
[12:22] <Peter77> any ideas please?
[12:22] <THX-1138> I suppose you might do one at a time capturing each one in real time using audacity to wav
[12:22] <mibuk> daurn|afk: I think you can do it with mplayer, checkout the mplayer website, they have an encoding / recording tool included with mplayer.
[12:22] <camer0ff> cpk2, modelines? can you explain please
[12:22] <daurn|afk> arg
[12:22] <THX-1138> daurn - i have hundred+ gigs of lossless varible bit encoded wmas.
[12:23] <daurn|afk> i just want to get a cd/playlist to go through my stereo
[12:23] <BuZzY> !usb
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <BuZzY> !usbdrive
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usbdrive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <daurn|afk> BuZzY: you plug them in... thats it
[12:23] <THX-1138> daurn - It took me days to do. - the only fast option i have seen is blazepro. - someone please, please tell me i am wrong.
[12:23] <cpk2> camer0ff: in your xorg.conf you will either have a section with modelines or modes, if its just modes you can input what resolution you want x to use, if it uses modelines you can generate your modeline here http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[12:24] <BuZzY> ok daurn|afk  :DS
[12:24] <daurn|afk> i don;t want to go back to windows
[12:24] <daurn|afk> but i think i might have to
[12:24] <daurn|afk> i can't handle the lack of music tools for linux
[12:24] <ReservoirGods> Hello all, I am trying to get a tv tuner card to work, forums helped just about enough to get the tuner working. can see a very good picture. but no sound.
[12:24] <mibuk> daurn|afk: cant you just use your headphones / lineout on your pc and the Aux In onyur stereo.  it'd be easier.   Re-encoding the files will take a while and lot of space.
[12:24] <BuZzY> !floppy
[12:24] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[12:24] <cpk2> daurn|afk: lack of music tools?
[12:24] <rockerichtig> ReservoirGods: maybe you need to plug in a cable for sound?
[12:24] <daurn|afk> mibuk: stereo is 4 rooms away :P
[12:25] <ReservoirGods> I've tried a lotta things with the /etc/modules.d/bttv file- but nothing is happening- the audio out jack is connected . duh.
[12:25] <ReservoirGods> i checked the volumes too
[12:25] <mibuk> ReservoirGods: Does your TV card provide sound, or do you need to connect a jack to jack cable from tv card to sound card?  my old tv card needed me to do that
[12:25] <THX-1138> mibuk - recording an analog signal sounds pretty bad.
[12:25] <Peter77> could the problem be in the ACPI?
[12:25] <daurn|afk> cpk2: no good library tools, few reencoing tools, no good taggers, lag
[12:25] <ReservoirGods> line in seems to be unmuted. mibuk- its an old one. heck- the box says for windows 98/98 :P
[12:25] <Peter77> or a conflict between KDE and Gnome?
[12:25] <mneptok> daurn|afk: EasyTag is a *great* ID3 tagger
[12:26] <daurn|afk> THX-1138: [20:21:46]  <daurn|afk> i just want to get a cd/playlist to go through my stereo
[12:26] <camer0ff> cpk2, where do i find xorg.conf?
[12:26] <ReservoirGods> well, i've got the cable connected directly to the sound card.
[12:26] <mibuk> ReservoirGods:  does the tV card have a jack socket on it?
[12:26] <mneptok> daurn|afk: Rhythmbox and Banshee both handle large libraries well (mine is 30,000 songs)
[12:26] <mibuk> camer0ff: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:26] <cpk2> camer0ff: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:26] <camer0ff> so i was close :)
[12:26] <cpk2> what mibuk said ^^
[12:26] <mibuk> :)
[12:26] <camer0ff> cpk2, mibuk thanks
[12:27] <ReservoirGods> mibuk - yeah- it does- you mean for a small audio cable provided with the tv tuner card - let me just paste the dmesg output and bttv file
[12:27] <cpk2> still trying to understand what the advantage of burning to wma would be?
[12:27] <mibuk> ReservoirGods: did you connect the cable between the sound card and the tv card?   FLAC! - lol
[12:28] <rockerichtig> ReservoirGods: maybe the soundcard inline is muted or your TV tool uses to wrong engine
[12:28] <rockerichtig> check these things
[12:28] <mibuk> cp2k: I think daurn wants to burn from WMA, to normal music CD
[12:28] <cpk2> THX-1138: yeah, i was going to say use flac if you are a big audiophile
[12:29] <BuZzY> !floppy
[12:29] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[12:29] <THX-1138> cp2k - you might use audacity to capture a wav file then burn that.
[12:29] <ReservoirGods> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Mxdzj499.html
[12:29] <cpk2> THX-1138: I dont need the music burning help =P
[12:29] <ReservoirGods> rockerichtig: see for yourself. I cant understand much of the dmesg output. but i suspect something about the audio is missing here :S
[12:29] <cpk2> i have a spdif out straight to my stereo =)
[12:30] <THX-1138> cpk2 - you would still need to configure you sound plugins  - i thought we were helping daurn - share the knowledge, linux community - "Ubuntu"
[12:30] <ReservoirGods> mibuk: I've done that- connected to the soundcard. heck, i even tried the onboard sound as well as an old soundblaster card I'd lying around. nuthing works.,
[12:30] <ReservoirGods> thinking of giving it a try with the audigy card.
[12:31] <mibuk> ReservoirGods:  I think you'll find that with a TV Card like that, the software doesn't do anyhting with sound.  the hardware just outputs it directly to the jack you plugged in.  Therefore the software wont see a volume, but you have to manually control the line in on your sound card to get the tv sound to come in.
[12:31] <Ishmael> Does anyone use PALM machines and are they as much easier to sync with Ubunt?
[12:31] <camer0ff> cpk2, do i have to restart x to get this resolution thing to update? i have gone as far as to delete all the other modes to see if it will work... but nothing. am i right to believe that i just have to reboot x?
[12:32] <cpk2> camer0ff: thats right, i hope you backed up your xorg.org =P
[12:32] <camer0ff> nope :D
[12:32] <mibuk> ReservoirGods:  Sounds like the line in isn't working then.  make sure it's not muted, that its turned up, that it's not overridden by the mic input, er... trying to think of other ideas.
[12:32] <camer0ff> cpk2, nope... wish me luck :D
[12:32] <camer0ff> cpk2, be back soon
[12:32] <anilomkar> ubotu, how to install tomcat in Ubuntu
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how to install tomcat in Ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <cpk2> camer0ff: we hope =)
[12:33] <Rookie> !tomcat
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <Peter77> I'm using ubuntu with both the KDE and Gnome desktops installed on a Sony Vaio PCG-fr215s Notebook.
[12:33] <Peter77> The Battery monitor isn't always visible (random after restart/shut down).
[12:33] <Peter77> Can anyone help me fix this so that it is visible 100% of the time?
[12:33] <THX-1138> Rookie is the tomcat server prt of xamp?
[12:33] <anilomkar> can anyone help me in installing tomcat in Ubuntu
[12:34] <Peter77> I've made it permantly visible and it tells me if I'm using AC or battery but the level reading is still intermitent
[12:34] <ReservoirGods> mibuk- yes. I can understand. wait...i think thats one thing i'd not tried- overridden by mic output. Will try. But I am kinda on the verge of giving up- just looked through the tv4linux site and from what they've described there's a helluva lotta tweaking that needs to be done. even if i get the card number/settings right, i also have to make sure the tuner settings, TDA and what-nots are just set right- otherwise, wont work. thanks for the help
[12:34] <Thandavarayan> Peter77 Could you please give the Ubuntu version.
[12:34] <ReservoirGods> though. http://rafb.net/paste/results/zYyvu861.html
[12:34] <Peter77> Dapper Drake
[12:34] <Peter77> 6.06
[12:35] <camer0n> yay
[12:35] <mibuk> ReservorGods:  I know how you feel.   I think I'm going to have to buy a decent TV card so I cna setup a mythtv box
[12:35] <camer0n> cpk2, i didn't die :D
[12:35] <cpk2> camer0n: you have the resolution you want?
[12:35] <Ishmael> Hi, just to try again: does anyone use PALM machines and are they as much easier to sync with Ubuntu?
[12:35] <camer0n> cpk2, yeah
[12:35] <cpk2> camer0n: =D
[12:35] <camer0n> cpk2, everythings small.... *high fives the air*
[12:36] <Peter77> Thandavarayan: could it be the ACPI as I have the same problem in the KDE desktop
[12:36] <mibuk> Other than that, I'm out of ideas.  sound cards aren't really my thing, I never understood the whole Alsa/Esound/OSS stuff
[12:36] <camer0n> cpk2, it has also chucked in a whole heap of other values in between 1024x768 and 1280x1024.... not sure if that is a good thing :P
[12:37] <cpk2> camer0n: did you plug in the new monitor while x was running?
[12:37] <camer0n> yeah
[12:37] <Thandavarayan> Peter77 If that demon has started during the startup, then it should not be a problem for these applets to show the battery status...or....
[12:37] <camer0n> but i have restarted the comptuer since then
[12:37] <BuZzY> how can i convert wav files into mp3's ????
[12:37] <camer0n> cpk2, yeah... but i rebooted since
[12:37] <BuZzY> !mp3
[12:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:38] <BuZzY> !mp3 convert
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 convert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <Peter77> it seems to show if during boot up I plug it into the AC then remove the AC
[12:38] <cpk2> camer0n: well as long as it works now =P
[12:38] <ShadeT> You have a sound device, that only 1 thread can talk to at one time... So Alsa/Esound/OSS specifically talks to the sound device, so multiple application can then play sounds by talking to Alsa/Esound/OSS.
[12:38] <erUSUL> !info soundconverter
[12:38] <ubotu> soundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB
[12:39] <camer0n> cpk2, yeah... pity it's still an old monitor.. bigger than the old one though.. fits more :)
[12:39] <triptec> I have a amd64, what do u recommend, 64 or 32 ubuntu??
[12:39] <mibuk> Cheers ShadeT, I kinda get the idea, but it's configuring, and getting everything working that I can never work out.  they all seem to be installed at once on most systems.
[12:39] <Peter77> Thandavarayan: do you think it could be the kernal as changing the power source during boot seems to activate the battery level
[12:40] <BuZzY> !time
[12:40] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[12:40] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: Can you able to see the kernel log.
[12:40] <camer0n> cpk2, thanks for the help anyway. /me goes off and idles in satisfication
[12:40] <BuZzY> !sync time
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sync time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <BuZzY> !synctime
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about synctime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <Peter77> when booting?
[12:40] <erUSUL> ShadeT: of the three only esound does what you say (and arts and polyaudio btw) alsa and oss are drivers frameworks for the kernel ass is obsolete so alsa has a compat layer to support old apis and braindamaged apps like skype
[12:41] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: Yeah...
[12:41] <Peter77> yes
[12:41] <BuZzY> how can i convert wav files into mp3's ????
[12:41] <vladimirBG> hey
[12:42] <Peter77> well under the logo
[12:42] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: What does the log file says.
[12:42] <Peter77> just loading hardware  ok
[12:42] <meson_ray> BuZzY:  lame, if you want command line
[12:42] <ShadeT> Ahh, that is right.  I am stuck in the old days.
[12:42] <Peter77> and all that other stuff, nothing about battery
[12:42] <vladimirBG> can you recomend some software that can convert non-drm wmv and mov files into PAL DV format?
[12:43] <erUSUL> vladimirBG: ffmpeg or mencoder
[12:43] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: /etc/init.d/acpid start
[12:43] <mahmoud> hi
[12:43] <Peter77> ok
[12:43] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: try to start the demon,
[12:43] <Peter77> i'll try that
[12:43] <mahmoud> i've a problem
[12:43] <unfknblvbl> !php
[12:43] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[12:43] <BuZzY> meson_ray, GUI?
[12:43] <Peter77> in terminal right?
[12:43] <mahmoud> after apt-get instal gcc
[12:44] <mahmoud> and compiling a c file
[12:44] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: /etc/init.d/acpi-support start
[12:44] <yango> where do I link libjavaplugin_oji.so for firefox to use the Java plugin?
[12:44] <Thandavarayan> to check the battery status...
[12:44] <mahmoud> i've an error message
[12:44] <meson_ray> BuZzY:  try soundconverter.  i dunno if it converts to mp3 or not though
[12:44] <yango> to $HOME/.mozilla/firefox what else?
[12:44] <Thandavarayan> ofcourse in terminal
[12:44] <mahmoud> stdlib.h stdio.h
[12:44] <mahmoud> not found
[12:44] <Peter77> ok it came on this time because  had to turn AC on during boot up
[12:44] <BuZzY> LOL meson_ray  :D
[12:44] <meson_ray> well, i know it converts FROM mp3
[12:45] <Peter77> for some reason that has an effect
[12:45] <herc1> !ati
[12:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:45] <meson_ray> i know there was a program somewhere, i don't remember what it was though
[12:45] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: Can your describe in more detail, what exactly you have done.
[12:46] <Peter77> just plug/unplug the AC while linux is booting
[12:46] <meson_ray> give me a second to look
[12:46] <Thandavarayan> Peter77 Okay, after booting the applet shows the status of the battery or...
[12:46] <Peter77> if I don't change the power source while booting it generally won't show the battery level
[12:46] <Peter77> no in the GUI
[12:46] <Peter77> Gnome
[12:47] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: Yeah Yeah...
[12:47] <mahmoud> after apt-get install gcc and compiling a c file i've an error message stdio.h sys/wait.h not found
[12:47] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: Can you able to look into the log files.
[12:48] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: /var/log/
[12:48] <Peter77> ok there
[12:48] <Peter77> what am I loooking for?
[12:49] <LookTJ> How do i install opera?
[12:49] <erUSUL> !opera
[12:49] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[12:50] <LookTJ> ok thanks
[12:50] <Thandavarayan> look of acpid
[12:50] <Peter77> ok
[12:50] <Peter77> found
[12:50] <Thandavarayan> to see, it says loaded...
[12:50] <mahmoud> no one to help me?
[12:51] <Peter77> 1 client rule loaded?
[12:51] <erUSUL> !b-e > mahmoud
[12:51] <meson_ray> BuZzY:  lame has a script, called mlame that you can use to convert multiple files.
[12:51] <erUSUL> !b-e
[12:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:52] <meson_ray> BuZzY:  if you still think you need a gui, try a google search or something
[12:52] <BuZzY> ok
[12:52] <erUSUL> !info soundconverter
[12:52] <ubotu> soundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB
[12:52] <mahmoud> after apt-get install gcc and compiling a c file i've an error message stdio.h sys/wait.h not found
[12:52] <BuZzY> people how can i remove safely my pen driver?
[12:52] <BuZzY> on win xp  have to disable it first
[12:52] <ReservoirGods> Another problem. I cant copy anything to usb-disks - in /etc/fstab, i have the users,rw options turned on- and the directory is owned by my user. what gives?
[12:53] <berent> Buzzy : umount /mnt
[12:53] <ReservoirGods> BuZzY: simply umount /media/path_to_flash
[12:53] <ShadeT> Or right click on the icon on your desktop and eject
[12:53] <erUSUL> mahmoud: check the ubotu msg's and the pm
[12:53] <Peter77> Thandavarayan:"1client rule loaded"
[12:53] <LookTJ> where is the opera debian package in dapper
[12:54] <perkins> hola
[12:54] <Canopy> hello there
[12:54] <xav> you have to add a repo
[12:54] <THX-1138> LookTJ Good Moring - commercial non-free repos
[12:54] <LookTJ> i added that
[12:55] <meson_ray> BuZzY:  try razorlame, maybe
[12:55] <xav> LookTJ, well just install opera now then
[12:55] <LookTJ> by the software properties
[12:55] <THX-1138> LookTj - you will also need libqt3-mt
[12:55] <P3L|C4N0> LookTJ, deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[12:55] <chromium6> hello I have a radeon 9200SE with the RV280 chip set and I cant get for the life of me fglrx or sti drivers to fire up DRI and I tried building fglrx but I get build errors
[12:55] <Canopy> Where can I go for some help?
[12:55] <perkins> alguien que hable espaol
[12:55] <chromium6> s/sti/ati
[12:55] <P3L|C4N0> perkins, en #ubuntu-es
[12:55] <THX-1138> !es
[12:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:56] <perkins> como se hace
[12:56] <erUSUL> chromium6: fglrx not longer support r2xx (te latest version from ati) radeon free driver has better performance use it (man radeon, man ati)
[12:56] <P3L|C4N0> perkins, escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[12:56] <THX-1138> perkins - I always hate doing !es it's dead there. - nice that you speak spanish.
[12:56] <perkins> gracias
[12:57] <xav> erUSUL, ubuntu doesn't provide the last version of fglrx
[12:57] <Canopy> I need some  help installing a graphics driver (n00b to Linux)
[12:57] <erUSUL> xav: i know but chromium6 said "I tried building fglrx but I get build errors..."
[12:58] <THX-1138> Canopy - ati or nvidia/
[12:58] <chromium6> yes I have used the ati driver in my xorg.conf and tried to pass Chipset "RV280"  and the log files still say it is not supported
[12:58] <Canopy> thx , nvidia
[12:58] <meson_ray> if i want to stick all of my binary files on a different partition, can i do that with a symbolic link or does it need to be hard, and are there any concerns with doing that?
[12:58] <chromium6> I binaries do me no good from ati because they stopped supporting it
[12:58] <THX-1138> Canopy - great! - nvivdia works best.
[12:58] <THX-1138> !nvidia
[12:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:59] <xav> erUSUL, oh right, I forgot ubuntu had them built already
[12:59] <meson_ray> or rather, what can i stick from my ubuntu partition on another partition easily (without being able to mount said partition in ubuntu)
[12:59] <arendagan> what date is the stable version of edgy being released??
[12:59] <Canopy> that is good...going there now, standby plz
[12:59] <unfknblvbl> 26 October
[12:59] <erUSUL> !schedule
[12:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:59] <arendagan> ok.. thanks
[01:00] <LookTJ> ok thanks P3L|C4N0
[01:00] <LookTJ> for the repos
[01:00] <LookTJ> :)
[01:00] <P3L|C4N0> ;)
[01:00] <chromium6> ok ubotu I will give that a shot
[01:00] <chromium6> thanks
[01:01] <Canopy> THX, looks like it is just what I need to figure it out ... thx!
[01:01] <xav> chromium6, why don't you tell us which errors you have with radeon?
[01:01] <xav> chromium6, it's better to use radeon drivers if you can
[01:02] <erUSUL> chromium6: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and choose ati driver... i can post my old radeon xorg.conf (for a 9250) so you can take a look at relevant sections (device, modules, dri etc...)
[01:02] <chromium6> done that
[01:03] <chromium6> I have started to edit my xorg.config by hand now that I have been digging at it so much
[01:03] <slvmchn> how do i specify the master soundcard in ubuntu? i installed a PCI card in addition to audio, and dapper constantly defaults to the PCI one, when i actually only use that one with jack for mixing stuff... a lot of my programs are defaulting to the delta1010 interface instead of the onboard, because in the system settings -> sound tab, it has delta1010 as default... changing it doesn't seem to be permanent, is there a file i can edit som
[01:03] <slvmchn> ewhere?
[01:04] <slvmchn> it's just a pain when i have to troubleshoot games every time i run them, because the system tells them to use alsa with the interface
[01:04] <meson_ray> if i want to stick all of my binary files on a different (non-blank) partition, can i do that with a symbolic link or does it need to be hard, and are there any concerns with doing that?
[01:04] <chromium6> but ati drivers and fglrx fail to fire up DRI. I can get the xv extention working with aticonfig
[01:05] <herc1> how to set up my tv-out ?
[01:07] <chromium6> I have given up on fglrx and just tryed loading up DRM module and the radeon driver but I can't get it to support RV280
[01:07] <chromium6>  RADEON: Chipset "rv280" in Device section "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] " isn't valid for this driver
[01:09] <porkpie> When are we going to get a release that installs on the Dell 1950 with out any disk dtection issues ??????
[01:10] <unknown> people is it good to "home" on a separate partition?
[01:11] <Shish> unknown: normally, yes; that way you can reinstall the system partition and leave your personal files alone
[01:11] <morrye> How do you install a printer on ubuntu?
[01:11] <kzm> Is mirrored logical volumes supported in LVM2 now?  (lvcreate -m ..)
[01:11] <erUSUL> morrye: System Admin Printers
[01:11] <kzm> morrye, plug it in, and use the gnome printer adm tool.  Do *not* try to use the CUPS web front end.
[01:11] <Jaak_> !offtopic
[01:11] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:12] <kzm> (at least, I couldn't manage to get it to work)
[01:12] <chromium6> in both fglrx and radeon support ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP) but how ever mine is PCI could that be my issue?
[01:12] <sfp|torro> !win32codecs
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <meson_ray> check the ubuntu docs for win32codecs
[01:13] <meson_ray> there's information online
[01:13] <unknown>  now i have only 2 partitions: swap and root, how can i move "home" to a new partition?
[01:13] <unknown> Shish, ?
[01:13] <josh_> what program(s) would i need to get in order to stream my music? (something similiar to winamp/shoutcast in windows)
[01:14] <Jaak_> Is there a gnome versionthinhy like KBleutoothD - meta server?
[01:14] <Xappe> josh_: icecast maybe
[01:14] <kzm> unknown, mount /dev/hdXN /mnt; cp -a /home /tmp/; rm -rf /home/*; umount /mnt; mount /dev/hdXN /home (some caution advised)
[01:15] <unknown> kzm, is there a web site where i can learn to do that?
[01:15] <josh_> rgr
[01:15] <kzm> unknown, probably, but I have no particular suggestions.  Perhaps a good book on Unix?
[01:15] <meson_ray> sfp|torro:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:16] <chromium6> ok brb going to try and fire up my gfx card again
[01:17] <_stippi_> hi, I installed the KDE and Xfce desktop environment along the default Gnome desktop, how can I change the boot+shutdown screen logos and the login screen back to the default Ubuntu theme?
[01:19] <Jaak_> how do  i make a doc/folder hidden in nautilus?
[01:22] <CosmoDad> Jaak_: preceeding its name with a dot should suffice
[01:24] <chromium6> yeah same deal (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  drmOpen failed
[01:26] <chromium6> radeon loads but fails to recognize my chip set and when I use the binary from ATI it loads but they stopped supporting the 9200 series, and when I use the binary from ubuntu the drm module fails to load fglrx
[01:28] <chromium6> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[01:28] <chromium6> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
[01:28] <chromium6> ermm???? I dont get that one. the device is there
[01:28] <chromium6> crap it was
[01:28] <chromium6> nm brb
[01:29] <Arafangion> I've just installed network-manager-gnome, but it doesn't appear to work (I assume that the panel widget is supposed to display a list of networks one can connect to, but it's completely empty)
[01:30] <voraistos> hello guys. i have a ubuntu server Mysql related problem: it seems when i want to set up password for host it wont work.
[01:30] <voraistos> mysqladmin -u root password yourrootsqlpassword -->> this seems to work fine
[01:31] <meson_ray> if i want to stick all of my binary files on a different (non-blank) partition, can i do that with a symbolic link or does it need to be hard, and are there any concerns with doing that?
[01:31] <voraistos> mysqladmin -h server1.example.com -u root password yourrootsqlpassword --> this doesnt
[01:32] <Arafangion> So, how do I get network-manager-gnome to work?
[01:32] <voraistos> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'server1.exemple.com' failed
[01:32] <voraistos> error: 'Host 'server1.exemple.com' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server'
[01:32] <Arafangion> voraistos: I'm a postgresql guy, so I can't really suggest very much except to check your configuration.
[01:33] <Arafangion> voraistos: And afaik, by default "localhost" transparently uses bsd sockets instead, it's MySQL's way of duping you into believing that they are really fast.
[01:33] <Arafangion> (MySQL _is_ faster than Pg, but that's another issue altogether)
[01:34] <voraistos> Arafigion: the network manager should already be there. what do u want from it ?
[01:34] <voraistos> oops. sorry for ure name Arafangion
[01:34] <NET||abuse> hey guys, i have a window border sitting on top of everything from OOo, i've closed the app completely, but this border is just sittin there, can't do a thing to it.
[01:35] <NET||abuse> is there any way i can clear it off ??
[01:35] <Arafangion> voraistos: Well, it's not installed by default on Dapper.
[01:35] <NET||abuse> i think it was from a print dialog..
[01:35] <voraistos> Kill sum stuff
[01:35] <Arafangion> voraistos: So I installed it - but the icon on the gnome panel has an orange ! symbol, but I can't figure out what the heck that means.
[01:36] <voraistos> NetworkManager Applet 0.6.2 : its not that ? Arafangion
[01:36] <Arafangion> voraistos: I am quite confident that it's only the default in Etch.
[01:36] <Arafangion> voraistos: But yes, it's 0.6.2, now that it's installed.
[01:37] <voraistos> Arafangion: well, it was already there when i installed ;)
[01:37] <Arafangion> :)
[01:38] <voraistos> it actually doesnt work for me. it can only see the wired network. useless
[01:38] <Arafangion> My problem exactly.
[01:39] <unfknblvbl> we're here when you don't need us
[01:39] <voraistos> usually it is very busy around here .........................
[01:39] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: But we _do_ need you :(
[01:39] <voraistos> yes we do !
[01:39] <unfknblvbl> yeh i know
[01:40] <unfknblvbl> but my point was.. dw
[01:40] <voraistos> damn it! i am sure even on #Debian there is more people !
[01:40] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: We need someone to talk to, who's not an MS fanatic, after we've spent two freaking days trying to get MS Access databases to work in VB.NET.
[01:40] <unfknblvbl> and btw i got no clue how to solve your problem
[01:40] <unfknblvbl> sorry i got no idea
[01:40] <Arafangion> voraistos: I'd probably join #mysql first, and check the mysql website for any faq's.
[01:41] <tuxub> i am trying to rsync some stuff from one server to another keeping the permissions but the destination always get the username uid of the rsync login inserted. how can i solve this?
[01:41] <voraistos> Arafangion: i feel it is not a Mysql problem
[01:41] <Arafangion> tuxub: What is the command?
[01:41] <dragonfire1> GM
[01:41] <Arafangion> voraistos: How's that?
[01:41] <voraistos> i dunno
[01:42] <Arafangion> dragonfire1: Hmm?
[01:42] <voraistos> i feel it is a dns problem or something like that
[01:42] <tuxub> rsync --force --ignore-errors --delete-excluded --delete --progress --stats --numeric-ids -a /srv/ $BSERVER::$USER/$FOLDER/srv/
[01:42] <tuxub> i think my problem is in the server configuration
[01:42] <Arafangion> tuxub: What about, _anything_ related to preserving permissions?
[01:43] <tuxub> isn't this it: --numeric-ids ?
[01:43] <voraistos> wow. /me saw 5 guys on #debian! yeah !
[01:43] <Arafangion> tuxub: See man rsync, search for "preserve"
[01:43] <tuxub> and -a is to enable archive mode, preserving permissions ?
[01:44] <tuxub> it says in the man rsync to use the -a option for preserving permissions
[01:44] <Arafangion> tuxub: You're correct, actually.
[01:44] <herc1> how can i give premisions on any fail to be opened with no root
[01:44] <tuxub> so, the problem must be in the server config, dont you think?
[01:45] <Arafangion> Tristan: Perhaps.  Perhaps.
[01:45] <Arafangion> Been too long since I've done rsync, right now I'm just bitter with VB.NET crap.
[01:47] <voraistos> :'(
[01:47] <xav> isn't it time for americans to wake up ?
[01:47] <xav> and europeans should be done eating
[01:48] <voraistos> nope. i didnt eat yet
[01:48] <xav> (though I'm not)
[01:48] <xav> :d
[01:48] <voraistos> and the americans, after a long night on #ubuntu, cant get up early
[01:49] <pty> i'm european and still deciding what to have for breakfast
[01:49] <tuxub> Arafangion, please take a look at http://pastebin.com/799987
[01:49] <voraistos> hehe so do I :P
[01:49] <xav> rofl
[01:49] <eXistenZ> Euros > Americans
[01:49] <CroX> Say I wanted to search through a directory, with subdirs, after all files containing the string "asdf".  Need to kill myself.
[01:55] <xav> are there big city without cars ?
[01:55] <xav> that's the place where I want to go
[01:56] <voraistos> hmmmmmm. maybe in african countries
[01:56] <wickedpuppy> xav, north korea ?
[01:56] <voraistos> xav: they have no cars but tanks in north korea. and no beans nor toast
[01:57] <xav> hey, that's even worse
[01:57] <pty> i guess holland is decent cos even though theres loads of cars nearly every road has a bick track next to it
[01:57] <pty> bike*
[01:57] <xav> ah cool
[01:57] <voraistos> yeah. holland is nice; and in holland, pedestrian have rights too.
[01:58] <pty> and dutch ladies are pretty damn good lookin :)  must be all the cycling
[01:58] <xav> ok I'm going to holland then
[01:58] <pty> chips and maynoaise ftw too
[01:59] <voraistos> xav u might want to go to sweden as well; i dunno about the girls, but i know about the computing stuff :)
[01:59] <wickedpuppy> holland is below sea level ... hope you know how to swim when tides go up ...
[01:59] <xav> I'll just take my kayak
[01:59] <voraistos> wickedpuppy: not everywhere
[02:00] <xav> much better than swimming :)
[02:00] <wickedpuppy> true .. not everywhere clearly ... but most part .. no ?
[02:00] <xav> really, I also need moutains somewhere to go skiing
[02:01] <buzzy-> hello ubuntu friends!
[02:01] <pty> hi buzzy-
[02:02] <buzzy-> pty, how are you?
[02:02] <chamo> hello
[02:02] <dondong> hi,young lads
[02:02] <pty> still thinking about what i want for breakfast
[02:03] <elmargol> Hi i Search a way so force an application to a specific sound device (ALSA).
[02:03] <dondong> iv just had my dinner
[02:03] <elmargol> to force
[02:03] <voraistos> i could take my yacht. I mean, the day i have a yacht
[02:03] <buzzy-> pty, breakfast?? O_O  i just have had lunch!!
[02:03] <pty> elmargol: what application?
[02:03] <elmargol> pty: banshee
[02:05] <dondong> any1 know where to find linux games,not demo
[02:05] <elmargol> dondong: www.holarse.net
[02:05] <dondong> is it for free elmargol?
[02:06] <elmargol> dondong: it is a german list of games avaiable for linux
[02:06] <dondong> i see it
[02:06] <zircx> guys, I'm running an FX6600 nvidia card, is there an easy howto on installing the nvidia drivers for this particular card?
[02:06] <dondong> thanx
[02:07] <cs02rm0_> zircx: have you tried the envy script?
[02:07] <zircx> haven't heard of the envy script at all, I'm very new to ubuntu
[02:07] <binary_goofy> hi room! can somebody help me in getting wine working on my system?
[02:07] <cs02rm0_> look here: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:07] <elmargol> dondong: http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[02:08] <zircx> cs02rm0_: thanks
[02:08] <cs02rm0_> np
[02:08] <dondong> elmargol,thanx,ill check it
[02:10] <binary_goofy> hi room! can somebody help me in getting wine working on my system?
[02:11] <unfknblvbl> hey
[02:14] <kyja> ok I have another ubuntu partition. and ubuntu on this partition, how can I mount the other one to rescue data. copy from old partition to this new one?
[02:14] <Orby> what do i need to do, to get my box to accept all incoming mail going to domain1 and forward it to user@domain2 on another server?
[02:14] <binary_goofy> can somebody pls help me in resolving wine errors?
[02:15] <oskude> kyja: "mount" is the command to mount partitions...
[02:15] <oskude> binary_goofy: wine doesnt have anything to do with ubuntu...
[02:15] <kyja> like sudo mount hda0
[02:16] <Orby> you need to tell it where to mount to
[02:16] <Orby> so sudo mount /dev/hdaX /somefolder
[02:16] <oskude> kyja: "man mount" can inform more
[02:16] <kyja> thx
[02:16] <oskude> kyja: but your on the right track
[02:17] <abionnnn> does anyone know how to get DRI working on an X700?
[02:17] <binary_goofy> oskude: i tried installing wine on my system. after installation, when i try to run it, gives me errors saying Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" and then terminates. so i guess in some way it has to do with the settings on my ubuntu system. thats why am here.
[02:17] <abionnnn> seemed to work ok with breezy, went back to mesa after I upgraded to dapper
[02:18] <oskude> binary_goofy: afaik, GLX has something to do with you graphic chip drivers...
[02:20] <davin_> Hi guys, I just installed Beryl which didnt seem to work, so I reverted everything back, but now my alt-tab doesnt work? how do I fix it?
[02:21] <binary_goofy> oskude: am running an asus V3800-magic, which uses a 32MB RIVA TNT2 chipset developed by NVIDIA. have the proper driver installed for it.
[02:21] <rubso> hey guys, i need help opening xvid video file, thanks.
[02:21] <Orby> anyone know how to get my box to accept mail from *@domain1 and forward it to another server at user@domain2
[02:21] <binary_goofy> oskude: display is not a problem with anything else. what could be the cause of this error?
[02:21] <oskude> binary_goofy: the only i can think is look in xorg.conf if the "glx" module is in there
[02:22] <orbin> rubso: what's the issue?
[02:22] <rubso> orbin: i've downloaded a tv show that requires xvid codec to run.
[02:22] <rubso> i tried using mplayer and xine, it doesn't play it.
[02:23] <davin_> My alt-tab borked, how do I reassign/fix it?
[02:23] <kothz> mah.  anyone use an x-based irc client they actually like?
[02:23] <unfknblvbl> gaim
[02:23] <oskude> kothz: xchat
[02:24] <orbin> rubso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:24] <yama> kothz: I can think of a few: xchat, xchat-gnome, konversation...
[02:25] <mneptok> rubso: you want the FFMPEG codecs for GStreamer
[02:25] <binary_goofy> oskude: you were right. GLX module not found in xorg.conf. how do i work around this problem?
[02:25] <rubso> oh, ok i'll try to install it right now
[02:26] <oskude> binary_goofy: i got 'Load    "glx"' under 'Section "Module"'
[02:26] <oskude> binary_goofy: but im not sure if "nv" driver supports that (if youre using that driver)
[02:27] <kyja> keeps complaining it cant find it in fstab or mtab :/
[02:27] <binary_goofy> oskude: am using the nvidia driver given by ubuntu as an update. so i add that to the module section? and restart X? or is there something else to do?
[02:27] <wladston> guys, I've changed my video card, and now x wont start ... I'm on IRC at the command line!
[02:27] <wladston> anyone can help ?
[02:28] <oskude> binary_goofy: dunno, you gotta try
[02:29] <davin_> wladston: what card?
[02:29] <oskude> wladston: what driver do you have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and what card/chip do you have ?
[02:29] <wladston> well, I had a nvidea gforce 4000 pci ...
[02:29] <kyja> ahhh
[02:29] <davin_> wladston: your new one..
[02:29] <wladston> now I've installed a
[02:29] <oskude> wladston: or you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and pick "nv" driver
[02:29] <wladston> Power Color ati radeon 9550 agp
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> ati ?
[02:30] <wladston> yeah
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> ati support for linux sux ... pls complain to them
[02:30] <oskude> wladston: in that case select "radeon" (or fglrx, after installing the driver)
[02:30] <binary_goofy> oskude: thanks. wil try. God bless.
[02:30] <rubso> mneptok: all the media players i have with extra codecs gives me an error msg that says : No demuxer found, stream format not recognised.
[02:30] <wladston> okskude : I'll try ...
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> you are the customer now .. you got the right to make hell of a noise
[02:30] <wladston> hold on ...
[02:30] <davin_> oskude: can you help me? my alt-tab doesnt work and I need to fix/reassign it (using gnome)
[02:31] <boink> !easysource
[02:31] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:31] <rubso> orbin: check out my last msg
[02:31] <oskude> davin_: didnt even know you can "break" it ;) sorry, never had such problem...
[02:31] <wladston> arght ... I can't scrool up to see the command i have to enter!
[02:32] <davin_> wladston: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:32] <mneptok> rubso: did you install the ffmpeg codecs for gstreamer?
[02:32] <wladston> thanks! Just found anyways ... pgip and pgdown :)
[02:32] <rubso> yes
[02:32] <mneptok> rubso: then maybe that file is corrupted or otherwise problematic
[02:33] <rubso> its working under windows
[02:33] <mneptok> and what does Windows tell you about it?
[02:33] <davin_> how do I reassign alt+tab to do the window-switch thingy that it normally does?
[02:33] <rubso> with VLC too, but no luck under linux.
[02:33] <mneptok> how is the video encoded? how is the sound encoded?
[02:33] <oskude> davin_: have you tried to restart x ? (maybe you killed the process, or such)
[02:34] <rubso> mneptok: xvid Video, and its a HIGH resolution video, HD.
[02:34] <davin_> oskude: hmm ill try, i just uninstalled all my beryl/xgl stuff
[02:34] <kyja> haha I got it =]
[02:34] <mneptok> rubso: and the audio?
[02:34] <rubso> i don't know anything about the audio
[02:34] <mneptok> rubso: mp3? aac? what?
[02:34] <rubso> i really don't know
[02:35] <mneptok> try install gstreamer-plugins-ugly
[02:35] <rubso> ok
[02:35] <mneptok> *installing
[02:35] <wladston> auch ... now it's asking the video card bus identifier ....
[02:36] <rubso> mneptok: its already installed.
[02:36] <wladston> i really wonder what i have to type in ...
[02:36] <wladston> maybe AGP:1:0:0 ?
[02:36] <boink> does ubuntu desktop already install openoffice?
[02:36] <Rico> boink: yes
[02:37] <kothz> wladston: do an 'lspci' and look for your video card... it'll have a PCI:x:x:x type address
[02:37] <boink> ta
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> yes
[02:37] <wladston> we'll, i'm going to try .... maybe it works ....
[02:38] <wladston> ahn ... there is an lspci command ....
[02:38] <boink> it's quite handy
[02:38] <boink> also handy is /proc as well
[02:38] <xiaochuan> All used KYLIN?!
[02:40] <kristian> I just installed edgy and compiled a custom kernel and now the computer just stalls after the kernel is done booting, any suggestions?
[02:40] <davin> hey I know why it didnt work, cause I used startx instead of turning on the PC :)
[02:40] <stangaroo> hi guys
[02:40] <boink> kristian: how did you many your own kernel?
[02:40] <boink> using make-dpkg?
[02:40] <wladston> now what ? Use the PCI:1:0:0 or the PCI:1:0:1 ???
[02:40] <kristian> boink, no i built it with just make and then edited menu.lst my self
[02:40] <davin> cheers oksude
[02:40] <wladston> both maps to my video card
[02:41] <stangaroo> anyone know how i can switch off my mouse pad on my  thinkpad?
[02:41] <kristian> boink, I have runed custom kernels for years and never had a problem like this
[02:41] <boink> did you make an image file?
[02:41] <diminthedam> hello. i have the following messages when trying to install glib: 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.12.0, but GLIB (2.10.3 was found! What do i do about it?
[02:41] <kristian> boink, yes /usr/src/linux-2.6.18/arch/i386/boot/bzImage
[02:41] <boink> no, for booting
[02:42] <oskude> davin: nice to hear that it works :) (next time use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart")
[02:42] <kristian> boink, no, do I have to?
[02:42] <davin> quick question, when I try do dd my harddrive (if) it totally fills my usb harddisk (off) to the max, why? should be a ~5gb image not 160gb
[02:42] <davin> oskude: *adds to notes*
[02:42] <boink> yes, initrd image file
[02:42] <boink> it's maybe getting stuck there on the booting
[02:42] <boink> ever made a custom kernel the debian way as well?
[02:42] <kristian> boink, isn't that just if you have scsi controllers or other drivers that needs to be loaded built as modules?
[02:42] <boink> it's quite handy
[02:42] <Stevo> who would be willing to help with a networking issue?
[02:43] <boink> dunno kristian .. it's hard for me to tell
[02:43] <kristian> boink, I don't have any special hardware and I've booted this kernel .config with breezy
[02:43] <boink> but with make-kpg that's a very good way to ma your own kernel
[02:43] <boink> s/ma/make/
[02:43] <kristian> boink, i'll check into that
[02:44] <boink> did breezy use a 2.4 or a 2.6 kernel?
[02:44] <poncho__1> Stevo u need to ask the question
[02:44] <kristian> boink, how do I make a initrd package?
[02:44] <oskude> davin: cause youre dd'ing the whole partition ? (inluding "empty" bits)
[02:44] <boink> there's a make-initrd tool somewhere
[02:44] <Stevo> poncho> there's a few questions...
[02:44] <kristian> boink, I used the same 2.6.18 kernel with breezy, just copied the .config file to my new edgy install
[02:44] <poncho__1> Stevo ok start with one at time
[02:44] <Stevo> poncho> i've been trying for months to get wireless working, to no avail.
[02:45] <boink> but remember, edgy is extreme bleedying edge. the pain factor is higher
[02:45] <Stevo> which i've found can be a common problem.
[02:45] <davin> oskude: ah, well I did like 'sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/media/usbdisk/backup/system/imagefile'
[02:45] <boink> installing breezer is really nice
[02:45] <diminthedam> i have question about instalilng glib. can anyone help?
[02:45] <kristian> boink, yes, I have edgy running on my workstation at home also with a custom kernel but I've installed it a couple of weeks ago
[02:45] <boink> ok
[02:46] <BuzZy> !grip
[02:46] <ubotu> grip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number
[02:46] <BuzZy> !rip
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <BuzZy> !ripper
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ripper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <Stevo> anyhow, what conf files do i need to modify in order to get everything working?  i had it working one time, only with security turned off, and after reboot, i can't connect or anything.  net-mngr says there's no signal.
[02:46] <oskude> davin: hmm, i would think /media just a place for mount points, but... (do you really need sudo to copy your usbstick?)
[02:46] <poncho__1> Stevo did u do some looking in the ubuntu forums
[02:46] <Stevo> only for the last 3 months
[02:47] <Stevo> lol
[02:47] <poncho__1> !wireless
[02:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:47] <Stevo> if you wanna pm i can copy/paste some readouts from the cli..
[02:47] <oskude> davin: and iirc, usbdisk are mounted (automaticly) to /media/usbdisk, so plese dont do any directores there :/
[02:47] <boink> !imap
[02:47] <esku> lol
[02:47] <Stevo> i've been there, that's why i'm here.
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <boink> !sylpheed
[02:48] <ubotu> sylpheed: Light weight e-mail client with GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.4-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 551 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[02:48] <GoreHat> buenas
[02:48] <poncho__1> Stevo i wont be any help for u but some of these people might be able to help
[02:48] <wladston> finally, the operation finished .... I wonder if it will work :(
[02:48] <GoreHat> alguien me puede ayudar?
[02:48] <Stevo> don't worry about it.  i can't run the network w/out WEP turned on anyway.
[02:48] <poncho__1> dont use wireless here
[02:48] <boink> GoreHat: no hablo espanol aqui
[02:48] <kothz> steve: what kind of wireless card do you have?
[02:48] <wladston> i wonder why it has to be SO complicated to swich vdeo cards...
[02:49] <wladston> exit
[02:49] <boink> !tell GoreHat about es
[02:49] <Stevo> linksys wpc54g
[02:49] <stangaroo> 'lo anyone out there know how to switch off my mouse pad
[02:49] <davin> oskude: what do you mean? you mean that Its wrong that I did a mkdir when it was mounted?
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> switch off mouse pad ?
[02:50] <kothz> steve: what have you done so far to get it working?
[02:50] <oskude> davin: sorry, i may impreted that wrong, as my usbisk is in /dev/sda1, but i assume your hd is there ?
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> i thought mouse pad is a piece of rubber ...
[02:50] <Stevo> ndiswrapper to install driver.
[02:51] <BuzZy> can i run a gnome based program (grip) on kubuntu?
[02:51] <Gosty> Hi!!! can somedy help me with DNS? i need help with file named.conf.options and set apache for working with the new domain i don't know what i must type in allow-query can somebody help?
[02:51] <kothz> stevo: *shudders at ndiswrapper* :)
[02:51] <Stevo> played around with /etc/network/interfaces
[02:51] <oskude> BuzZy: yes
[02:51] <davin> oskude: yep, I got a s-ata hdd
[02:51] <Stevo> kothz> what else is there?
[02:51] <BuzZy> how?
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, sure ... i run k3b in gnome
[02:51] <BuzZy> oskude, how can i?
[02:51] <boink> apache is done in the httpd.conf or in the apache.conf
[02:51] <kothz> stevo: i've got a linksys wireless card, running with the native broadcom drivers
[02:51] <oskude> BuzZy: by installing it and running it...
[02:51] <boink> named.conf is only for the name server, bind
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, install ?
[02:51] <BuzZy> lol
[02:51] <BuzZy> :D
[02:52] <kothz> steveo: sec
[02:52] <BuzZy> thouth it needed an emulator
[02:52] <BuzZy> :D
[02:52] <Stevo> kothz> really..?
[02:52] <BuzZy> so i can run grip?
[02:52] <BuzZy> right!!
[02:52] <BuzZy> how can i install grip? there aren't any rep!!
[02:52] <oskude> davin: dd if=/dev/sda1 will copy the whole partition, not just the (5gb) of used data...
[02:52] <berent> what is grip for
[02:52] <oskude> !enter
[02:52] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, sudo apt-get install grip ...
[02:52] <Stevo> i believe it's a DNS issue on my part
[02:52] <Riotta> use sound juicer
[02:52] <davin> oskude: whoa I didnt know that, so how do I copy my 'filled' space?
[02:53] <boink> !mp3
[02:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:53] <Riotta> better than grip imo
[02:53] <BuzZy> wickedpuppy, no result
[02:53] <boink> can the ubuntu xmms play mp3s?
[02:53] <oskude> davin: cp, would be the "normal" copy command... but there are others "better" for backuping... maybe start with "rsync"
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, no result means nothing to us ... error message is ?
[02:53] <davin> oskude: okay ill look on into it, cheers mate :-)
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> pls pls pls pls give us something to work .... i beg of you ...
[02:54] <Gosty> Hi!!! can somedy help me with DNS? i need help with file named.conf.options and set apache for working with the new domain i don't know what i must type in allow-query can somebody help?
[02:54] <BuzZy> wickedpuppy, :
[02:54] <BuzZy> unknown@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache search Grip
[02:54] <BuzZy> unknown@ubuntu:~$
[02:54] <BuzZy> ---------------
[02:54] <oskude> !info grip > BuzZy
[02:54] <ubotu> grip: GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 440 kB, installed size 1268 kB
[02:54] <boink> Gosty: I said already .. named.conf is only for the name server, bind
[02:54] <boink> you need to set up apache with the httpd.conf or the apache.conf
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, did you see my message ?
[02:54] <oskude> !repos > BuzZy
[02:55] <Gosty> boink: but i don't know what type as allow-query i have only local network
[02:55] <boink> though, you need to set up apache, no?
[02:55] <BuzZy> wickedpuppy, "impossible to find grip"
[02:55] <stangaroo> Anyone know where i can find linux+thinkpad FAQs?
[02:56] <boink> !laptop
[02:56] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[02:56] <BuzZy> wickedpuppy,  so i need a rep
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> now we are somewhere ... i believe the bot has message ya .. pls kindly add the repos :P
[02:56] <stangaroo> ubotu: Ta!
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Ta! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, the bot has messaged you .. no ?
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> stangaroo, ubotu is a bot ..
[02:56] <oskude> BuzZy: grip is in "universe" repo, activate it and youre off... (ubotu told you how)
[02:56] <BuzZy> wickedpuppy,  ok but how can i know what rep i need?
[02:56] <boink> you can still thank it :)
[02:56] <stangaroo> lol
[02:57] <BuzZy> ok oskude
[02:57] <whitedeth> man something's really screwed up with my clock settings
[02:57] <BuzZy> tnx
[02:57] <Gosty> boink: i have in allow-query block now this: <IP_ADDRESS>; <IP_ADDRESS>  (my ip adress in the local network) is it ok?
[02:57] <whitedeth> is there a way to change the time via terminal?
[02:57] <stangaroo> ubotu: thank you
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <stangaroo> hehehe
[02:57] <whitedeth> !time
[02:57] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, while ya there pls add the multiverse too ...
[02:57] <whitedeth> !clock
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <davin> is there like a graphical file manager for the console?
[02:57] <boink> sounds fine, but I don't know what you're trying to do exactly?
[02:57] <oskude> whitedeth: date
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> !botabuse
[02:57] <whitedeth> !snack
[02:57] <StAfZe6> sup?
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[02:57] <BuzZy> ok wickedpuppy
[02:57] <BuzZy> tnx
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> whitedeth, pls stop that
[02:57] <whitedeth> botabuse? :\
[02:57] <davin> something like norton commander
[02:58] <whitedeth> im trying to figure out what it is for time.
[02:58] <oskude> davin: i heard, "midnight commander" would be such, but never used..
[02:58] <boink> davin: midnight-commander works fine
[02:58] <whitedeth> !date
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about date - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <boink> looks just like norton commander
[02:58] <davin> boink, oskude: cheers
[02:58] <whitedeth> bleh :(
[02:58] <oskude> whitedeth: type "man date" in terminal
[02:58] <whitedeth> so there's no way to change the time via terminal? :\
[02:58] <whitedeth> oh, cheers.
[02:58] <boink> whitedeth: ntpdate
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> whitedeth, pls do not flood the channel using the bot .. if you need help pls ask
[02:59] <oskude> whitedeth: you can talk "privately" with the bot by typing "/msg ubout foobar"
[03:00] <Gosty> boink: please type before message my nick...................and i have this problem: my PC name in the network is gosty-pc and ip adress <IP_ADDRESS> and i want to have something like mysql.gosty-pc ftp.gosty-pc   only for users in the network understand me?
[03:00] <SuperSub> anyone no how to install quicktime plugin?
[03:00] <boink> Gosty: sure, that you do in the named.conf in Bind
[03:00] <boink> or you could put that in your /etc/hosts file too
[03:00] <oskude> SuperSub: maybe you should say plugin for what...
[03:01] <SuperSub> quicktime movies?
[03:01] <mneptok> boink: you'd have to add them to every hosts file on every machine
[03:01] <boink> yes .. that's why they invented dns :)
[03:01] <mneptok> 'zackly
[03:01] <Gosty> boink: oooh someone told me that i must change named.conf and have domain gosty-pc.lan
[03:01] <whitedeth> Everytime I bring up the clock/date settings to adjust them, the window crashes :\
[03:01] <boink> in the old days, you had to download the latest host file :P
[03:01] <whitedeth> every single time.
[03:01] <Gosty> boink: can i write with you by private?
[03:01] <boink> sorry, I'm a little busy at the moment
[03:01] <boink> !bind
[03:01] <ubotu> bind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.6-1 (dapper), package size 888 kB, installed size 2092 kB
[03:02] <mneptok> Gosty: you make sure BIND is installed and running, read through some named.conf examples you find on Google, and then use that machine as the DNS server for all the machines on your network.
[03:02] <boink> there are a lot of web resources on bind, Gosty
[03:02] <oskude> !quicktime > SuperSub
[03:02] <SuperSub> yes
[03:02] <boink> whitedeth: do you want to set the time correctly on your PC?
[03:02] <whitedeth> boink: Yes
[03:02] <boink> the nerd way of doing that is using ntpdate
[03:03] <boink> !ntpdate
[03:03] <whitedeth> It's an hour behind thanks to daylight savings.
[03:03] <ubotu> ntpdate: The ntpdate client for setting system time from NTP servers. In component main, is important. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 160 kB
[03:03] <davin> also, is there something like a address bar for nautilus? (like konqueror-style)
[03:03] <mneptok> boink: the nerd way of doing it is with ntpd ;)
[03:03] <whitedeth> ill get that
[03:03] <boink> you need the closest time server