[18:28] <wilee-nilee> ki4ro, I linked the rhythmbox open to the mp3's music file on board it that works, I did do as OerHeks suggests beforehand and turned on the mtp, not sure if that made a difference I had not tried this path before.
[18:29] <ki4ro> wilee-nilee, Is that an option in rhythmbox?
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> ki4ro, edit-preferences-music-browse
[18:30] <OerHeks> ki4ro, it is an menu in rhythmbox preferences
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> the plugins are in edit as well ki4ro
[18:31] <digitlman> anybody using picuntu on a Rk3066 device?
[18:31] <ObrienDave> ki4ro, did you install MTP support as well?
[18:31] <Danato> femian: aqui solo hablam ingles, yo hablo un poquito de portunol, pero no es mucho, intenta usar el google tradutor
[18:31] <OerHeks> ki4ro, you might need to restart rhythmbox after enabling mtp plugin
[18:32] <disparaissant> okay so i'm trying to use gdebi to install nv and it gives me the error "this package is uninstallable. dependency is not satisfiable: xorg-video-abi-6.0" any clue anyone?
[18:32] <ki4ro> OerHeks, Do not see any reference to mtp
[18:32] <femian> Hello how are. See, I have a brother dcp-J140W and I can not run the scanner in ubuntu 10.04, anyone know how to solve it? thanks
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> disparaissant, says your missing a package right?
[18:32] <disparaissant> yeah i can't find that package ~anywhere~
[18:32] <disparaissant> i could just be stupid tho
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> disparaissant, I generally look for a deb on the web to start with.
[18:33] <sergiobenrocha2> femian: 10.04 is no longer supported... in desktop
[18:33] <MrHacks> Just wehen I was about to log out of this shell that I left open overnight, ki4ro says the magic word and the duck comes out
[18:33] <disparaissant> wilee-nilee: it's part of xserver-xorg-core, but clearly part of a much older version since 12.04 doesn't have it...
[18:34] <digitlman> trying to install RTL8188CUS drivers into picuntu ....the installer complains about module sissing
[18:34] <digitlman> missing
[18:34]  * MrHacks has only a hour to hang out here.
[18:34] <digitlman> whats the best way to install wifidrivers on a system that has no network conenctions? lol
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> disparaissant, Yeah looked a bit like a challenge being xorg-care, hehe
[18:35] <zzecool> Hello there , can i build a .deb that will have multiarch support using checkinstall ?
[18:35] <ki4ro> OerHeks, Found the mtp already turned on
[18:35] <ki4ro> checked
[18:35] <zzecool> i cant find  any way it seems i can only build for my native arch
[18:36] <zykotick9> zzecool: sidenote/warning, checkinstall created DEBs aren't intended to be redistributed...
[18:37] <zzecool> i know it is for me
[18:37] <zykotick9> ok
[18:37] <disparaissant> well it's a new install so let's see how bad i can screw it up by uninstalling xorg-core and reinstalling an older version! should be fun.
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> disparaissant, I see it in debian as a download, I am not familiar with nv though, using straight debian is not generally advised, and you have addressed the age already.
[18:37] <MrHacks> Speaking of Wifi, I've noticed they past couple of times that when I boot up Ubuntu posts a system error prompt. Something about /sbin/wpa_suplicant. dmesg says something about a SIGSEGV error.  Hopefully this isn't a serious problem considering I use WiFi
[18:37] <zzecool> but i want to have multiarch support because the re is a conflict with ia32libs
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> disparaissant, hehe you go tear it up. ;)
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> disparaissant, http://pkgs.org/download/xorg-video-abi-6.0
[18:39] <disparaissant> wilee-nilee: thanks! i'll try that if this frankenstein hack job im doing now doesn't work
[18:39] <disparaissant> wilee-nilee: actually that won't work, i'm on a powerpc :S
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> disparaissant, I'm not sure that is exactly a download.
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> disparaissant, People do, do forced installs, however a apt set up missing a package will be problematic with every command run in it.
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> or could be anyway
[18:42] <disparaissant> yeah trying to install that older version of xorg-core jsut blew up in my face haha
[18:46] <Anuska> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6444233/
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> Anuska, This 10.04 a server?
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> Anuska  rpm... sure you're asking in the right channel?
[18:47] <compdoc> Anuska, does libc.so.6 exist on the drive?
[18:47] <Anuska> ubuntu-12.04.3-server-i386
[18:47] <Kajunfiend> .
[18:47] <vermahim> hi, i am using ubuntu 13.10, i am looking for a software(preferably small in terms of code) which is written(or majority of code) in C/C++, please help me out
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> disparaissant, That is always fun. ;)
[18:47] <pabelanger> What is up with http://packages.ubuntu.org/ ?
[18:48] <Kajunfiend> a
[18:48] <Anuska> i install libc6
[18:48] <reisio> vermahim: wha?
[18:48] <Pici> pabelanger: good question... /me enquires
[18:48] <pabelanger> fail
[18:48] <Pici> Anuska: Why are you installing an RPM package on Ubuntu?
[18:48] <pabelanger> ubuntu.org was the wrong domain
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> Kajunfiend, You gots an issue?
[18:48] <Pici> pabelanger: yeah, I just saw that.
[18:48] <Anuska> i try to test
[18:49] <Anuska> some commands to learn rpm -commands
[18:49] <Pici> Anuska: Ubuntu does not use RPM, it uses dpkg and .debs
[18:49] <pabelanger> Pici, thanks for the quick reply
[18:49] <vermahim> reisio: what?
[18:49] <reisio> vermahim: I asked first
[18:49] <Pici> Anuska: things will either not work with installing RPMs, or you will break your install.
[18:50] <vermahim> reisio: any software on ubuntu which is written in c/c++
[18:50] <Anuska> pf
[18:50] <reisio> vermahim: yes, tons of it
[18:50] <Anuska> and how i will learn rpm commands if i have ubuntu installed?
[18:50] <Anuska> i delete ubuntu and install other distribution how use rpm?
[18:50] <reisio> Anuska: or use a VM
[18:51] <vermahim> reisio: preferably, small in terms of code..so that i can understand and improve my skills
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> or chroot?
[18:51] <reisio> vermahim: mmm, okay
[18:51] <reisio> vermahim: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/coreutils/
[18:51] <reisio> vermahim: ask #C for more
[18:51] <Anuska> all rpm
[18:51] <Anuska> looking for libc.so.6
[18:52] <Anuska> i try to install pico rpm but faild
[18:52] <vermahim> reisio: ok..
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> Anuska  what is your end goal?
[18:52] <Anuska> ?
[18:52] <yash069> Anuska: what u want to do ?
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> Anuska  why are rpm's so important to you?
[18:53] <k1l_> Anuska: you know that rpm stands for redhat package manager. this is the fedora/redhat system. ubuntu uses .deb which is comming from debian.
[18:53] <yash069> pico is old name for nano text editor
[18:53] <P1ro> Hi, im trying to find a way to install ubuntu using a old ipod as hard drive, im reading that syslinux can help me but i cant get syslinux working.
[18:53] <Anuska> yes but i try to install rpm
[18:53] <k1l_> Anuska: you should look out for .deb packages if you want to use them with ubuntu
[18:53] <Anuska> to learn rpm -ivh , rpm -V , etc
[18:53] <yash069> k1l_: RPM Package Manager !!
[18:53] <k1l_> Anuska: yes, but this is wrong.
[18:53] <Anuska> oki
[18:53] <Anuska> thanks
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> Anuska  why? maybe there's a solution that's not alien to ubuntu
[18:54] <Anuska> i will install mandriva to learn rpm
[18:54] <k1l_> Anuska: ubuntu works with another packages system. its .deb based and not .rpm based like on that other distributions
[18:54] <Anuska> i know
[18:54] <Anuska> but if i have a rpm i build a .deb pkg in ubuntu
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> Anuska  are you a troll?
[18:55] <k1l_> Anuska: best is to get a .deb package in the first way
[18:55] <Anuska> uff
[18:55] <Anuska> MonkeyDust stai away!
[18:55] <Anuska> stay*
[18:55] <reisio> P1ro: to GNU/Linux, a drive is a drive
[18:56] <k1l_> Anuska: you could use alien to transform a rpm package. but there is no guarantee that this will work out as expected. i would stronly suggest that you take a .deb package in the first place
[18:56] <Anuska> thanks, yap
[18:57] <P1ro> reisio even with the usb mode on the ipod is not booting it, thats why im tryign to find help
[18:59] <reisio> P1ro: well, you can get a >16GB usb stick at local stores in the USA for $20
[19:00] <dgarstang3> Is there any way to make an upstart job start after all other jobs?
[19:00] <yash069> reisio: nice one :)
[19:00] <karab44> hello guys
[19:00] <P1ro> reisio, i know that, but im not in US, also thats a ipod with broken sound, thats why i wanna get some use to it.
[19:00] <yash069> really why in this world someone will make ipod bootable
[19:00] <P1ro> yash069 lol? lick more
[19:01] <yash069> P1ro good reason though
[19:01] <jmgk> lolz
[19:01] <k1l_> P1ro: i am not quite sure if the firmware on the ipod alows that at all
[19:01] <karab44> I have a question... how can I easily place, scale, move and remove different images on background of all ubuntu desktops?
[19:01] <P1ro> k1l_ well im reading about syslinux but still cant get i working
[19:02] <reisio> P1ro: you can probably crack it open and have an ordinary hard disk
[19:02] <ikonia> P1ro: http://limneoswizard.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/make-iphone-bootable-usb-disk-boot-your.html
[19:02] <karab44> by meaning of desktops I mean all virtual desktops on my system
[19:03] <reisio> karab44: you'd have to figure out what's controlling those, historically in GNOME it was nautilus
[19:03] <reisio> karab44: that'd still be my first guess with Unity
[19:03] <reisio> karab44: as for the manipulation, use imagemagick's convert/mogrify commands
[19:03] <ikonia> different wall paper per desktop is not supported
[19:04] <ikonia> I think there was a gnome hack for it but it never got commited (I think)
[19:04] <karab44> ikonia
[19:04] <BluesKaj> kde supportd different wallpapers per desktop
[19:04] <karab44> I have something completely diffrent on my mind
[19:04] <karab44> let me show you
[19:05] <BluesKaj> supports
[19:05] <airtonix> karab44: i'd like to show you something too.
[19:05] <ikonia> BluesKaj: that's been around for a while in kde as I recall
[19:05] <airtonix> karab44: http://www.etftrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/key_enter_1-opt.jpg
[19:05] <karab44> airtonix: ?? :D
[19:05] <BluesKaj> ikonia. yeah , i'm surprised ubuntu/unity/gnome doesn't
[19:05] <karab44> it's enter key
[19:05] <ikonia> airtonix: just explain clearly rather than silly cryptic messages
[19:06] <airtonix> karab44: personally i love the enter key, but my true love lies with the comma key.
[19:06] <ikonia> karab44: he'd like you to stop usin "enter" as punctuation in your chat in this channel.
[19:06] <yash069> karab44: http://askubuntu.com/questions/75998/is-it-possible-to-have-a-different-background-for-each-workspace
[19:07] <karab44> I don't want to have different wallpapers for each desktop I told you. I think more like about active desktop
[19:07] <ses1984> is there something like an ubuntu enterprise flavor that doesn't come with amazon integration, hard coded bookmarks to photo, music and video files in nautilus, etc?
[19:07] <yash069> live wallpaper ?
[19:07] <airtonix> karab44: you mean like having a web page as your background?
[19:08] <karab44> for example imagine that desktop is a desk where you want to place photos everywhere on it
[19:08] <anternat> is bash scripting C++? another language? what exactly is it?
[19:08] <ikonia> ses1984: the desktop is enterprise ready, it's up to you to build an image specific ot your enterprise
[19:08] <Apteryx> Hi everyone! Could anyone comment on the state of Moonlight? Is the project dead? What is the way to get the latest version running on Ubuntu 13.10?
[19:08] <ses1984> bash is a language
[19:08] <ses1984> ikonia: you have to recompile nautilus from source to remove the links to photo, music and video files
[19:08] <karab44> then you could easily move it and scale it and manage interactively through desktops.
[19:08] <ses1984> that's enterprise ready?
[19:08] <anternat> ty ses1984
[19:08] <airtonix> ses1984: brotip: install gnome-shell and gdm, dpkg-reconfigure lightdm, choose gdm. never deal with amazon integration again :)
[19:08] <ikonia> ses1984: no you don't,
[19:08] <ikonia> ses1984: you build a pressed image,
[19:08] <ses1984> that's what a ton of sources have told me
[19:09] <ikonia> ses1984: then I suggest getting a grip on things before coming in all "smart"
[19:09] <ikonia> ses1984: pretty much every desktop on linux will have bookmarks etc in place by default
[19:09] <ses1984> yeah but in old versions of nautilus you could just right click remove, now remove is disabled
[19:10] <ikonia> ses1984: remove what ?
[19:10] <yash069> karab44: one way is to have conky ... but it will be to much work to do ...
[19:10] <karab44> I just wanted to printscreen but it stopped woriking...
[19:10] <P1ro> ikonia thank you :D
[19:10] <ses1984> on the top left of nautilus, in the places section, there's a list of folders that are in home holder, like Desktop, Documents, Music, Photos, Video, etc
[19:10] <airtonix> ses1984: have you looked into xdg-desktop spec?
[19:10] <karab44> yash069: could I using conkey throw pictures on the desktop?
[19:10] <P1ro> ikonia ill try that,
[19:11] <ses1984> airtonix: no, checking that now
[19:11] <airtonix> karab44: yes, if you used a lua module.
[19:11] <yash069> not sure but i think so ...
[19:11] <karab44> well we have two different opinions. OK guys let me check that :)
[19:11] <airtonix> ses1984: from memory, there's a file in your home folder that specifies where they point to by default. not sure if removing or setting blank variables removes them
[19:12] <ikonia> airtonix: it's a shell varible isn't it, XDG_$SOMETHING
[19:12] <airtonix> karab44: just be warned, using a lua module means writing your own lua code.
[19:12] <Davidov> hi to all
[19:12] <karab44> airtonix: Good, that's not a big problem actually
[19:12] <Anuska> is easy install with  aptitude install zvh
[19:12] <airtonix> ikonia: yep, but i think it's loaded in from either .profile, .bashrc or a file that doesn't normally exist.
[19:13] <Davidov> there are some solution to extract large (20BG) rar files without kill the system ??? (Ubuntu 12.04 64bit)
[19:13] <ikonia> Davidov: it won't kill the system if you have resources needed available to it
[19:13] <airtonix> karab44: you'll find plenty of examples on using opengl and image drawing
[19:13] <yash069> karab44: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=3728
[19:14] <genii> airtonix: I think ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[19:14] <yash069> not pretty much what u want but have a look
[19:14] <airtonix> ses1984: ^ what genii said.
[19:14] <Davidov> ikonia--> for resurces you intend swap space or space in the partition where I'm going do extract ?
[19:14] <ikonia> Davidov: everything, cpu, ram, swap, disk space
[19:14] <ses1984> airtonix: thanks
[19:15] <Davidov> ikonia--> mmmhhh ok I undestand :)
[19:15] <Davidov> r
[19:15] <yash069> Anuska: to install just use apt-get install <package-name>
[19:15] <karab44> ikonia: airtonix yash069 Thank you guys
[19:15] <ses1984> i guess i should go through my history and try to leave comments on all of these sources that claimed removing those items from the places sections required a change of source and recompile
[19:15] <ikonia> ses1984: no, as they are correct if you are asking the question you are asking
[19:16] <ikonia> ses1984: if you want this by "default" then it is a compile option, if want this dynamic/changed from default compile options it's a configuration
[19:17] <ses1984> the questions asked were usually like this "how can i remove video from the places menu" and the answer "change source and recompile" ... that smells wrong to me
[19:17] <andry> test
[19:17] <ikonia> ses1984: it depends how you look at it, it's not technically wrong, but it is wrong for the question you asked, but the way you asked it was not also correct
[19:17] <ses1984> even if you want it 'default' it seems like it would be much easier to keep using the nautilus packages in the repos
[19:18] <IEatTwix> I can't turn wlan off, I get a "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted".. Any idea what might cause it?
[19:19] <ses1984> sorry if i came in here with a less than friendly tone. i've had a bad morning. thanks for help everyone.
[19:19] <airtonix> ses1984: personally i feel it would be great if the gnome team approached all functionality of their apps as addon/plugin architecutre and just dogfooded  their own efforts. this would make releasing the kind of tools you want more practical.
[19:22] <Anuska> dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching libcroco3:i386
[19:23] <hershey> Is Ubuntu 13.10 supported on macbooks? I just installed 13.10 with full disk encryption, and grub fails to boot "error: unknown filesystem"
[19:23] <yash069> Anuska: what are u trying to install ?
[19:23] <auronandace> !mac | hershey
[19:24] <Anuska> sudo apt-get install alien
[19:26] <yash069> Anuska: do 'apt-get install libcroco3'
[19:26] <yash069> and then sudo apt-get install alien
[19:27] <Anuska> apt-get install libcroco3
[19:27] <Anuska> Unpacking libcroco3 (from .../libcroco3_0.6.5-1ubuntu0.1_i386.deb) ...
[19:27] <Anuska> dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching libcroco3:i386
[19:27] <Anuska> not good
[19:28] <urielvigilant> I bought a joystick to play OnLive on Lubuntu. What steps i need to make it work ?
[19:28] <xangua> urielvigilant: plug it, done
[19:29] <karab44> guys this is what I want my desktop looks like. Actually all pictures are opened in some photoviewer. It would be cool to have them directly locked/unlocked on desktop. http://wstaw.org/m/2013/11/19/Screenshot_from_2013-11-19_200501.png
[19:29] <urielvigilant> xangua, i will try that
[19:30] <karab44> So using some scripting in conkey I can achieve that ?
[19:30] <Anuska> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6444435/
[19:31] <Anuska> ubuntu is not good
[19:31] <Pici> Anuska: Is this the same system you were trying to install rpm packages on earlier?
[19:32] <Anuska> is ubuntu
[19:32] <Anuska> yes
[19:32] <Pici> Anuska: It wouldn't surprise me if doing that broke your install.
[19:32] <Anuska> why?
[19:33] <Pici> Anuska: Because rpms are not designed in mind with the way that Ubuntu organizes files.
[19:33] <genii> You should also probably use apt-get since aptitude is not graceful about packages mixed between 32 and 64 bit
[19:33] <Anuska> hey
[19:33] <Anuska> i try to install alien
[19:33] <reisio> suppah
[19:33] <Anuska> is a simple command
[19:34] <Anuska> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6444435/
[19:34] <Anuska> look
[19:35] <Sh1G3rU> cant you just use sudo apt-get install alien ??
[19:35] <Anuska> the same eror
[19:35] <io> I see warnings, not errors
[19:35] <Anuska> but not install
[19:36] <yash069> what is the software u trying to install using .RPM ?
[19:36] <Anuska> i reboot the sys
[19:36] <Anuska> and now work
[19:36] <Anuska> huh strange
[19:36] <yash069> :|
[19:36] <Anuska> :|
[19:36] <urielvigilant> xangua it dont work . it come with a rives cd for windows. where i can find drives or something for Lubunut ?
[19:37] <Anuska> i use alien to learn commands
[19:37] <Anuska> :P
[19:37] <urielvigilant> Please someone help me, make a joystick work to play Onlive on PlayOnLinux  in Lubuntu 13.10
[19:37] <xangua> urielvigilant: if it's not a weird joystick, it should be just plug and play; you may need to configure the keys for whatever you are tryingo to play
[19:37] <yash069> isn't alien used to make .deb packages out of rpms?
[19:38] <yash069> what commands ?
[19:38] <auronandace> !alien
[19:38] <urielvigilant> XAngua config where ? I found somthing about joypad and drives on internet ?
[19:38] <xangua> to play online on playonlinux huh... urielvigilant you never mentioned that
[19:38] <urielvigilant> xangua, yes ...
[19:38] <Sh1G3rU> Anuska,  try first to apt-get update && apt-get upgrade first
[19:38] <urielvigilant> play Onlive on PlayonLinux
[19:39] <Atluxity> I tried installing i3, then removed it, now when I do notify-send its not a cute buble as it used to, its a bland flat text field to the top left corner. How to debug this?
[19:39] <xangua> (13:28:32) urielvigilant: I bought a joystick to play OnLive on Lubuntu. What steps i need to make it work ? - don't see  it mention ther, otherwise you can try #winehq for wine related questions
[19:40] <Sh1G3rU> Anuska,  it worked just fine on my http://paste.ubuntu.com/6444483/
[19:40] <yash069> Anuska: u should have installed fedora or some other distro what use rpm as package manager, if wanted to play around with rpms only.
[19:40] <trism> Atluxity: looks like you replaced notify-osd with dunst
[19:40] <urielvigilant> xangua, you mean i should install the windows drives for this joystick ?
[19:41] <Anuska> Sh1G3rU, i restart linux and work
[19:41] <xangua> urielvigilant: where do you read i mean that¿
[19:41] <Anuska> yash069, yes >) but i like ubuntu
[19:41] <urielvigilant> xangua, you talk about wine
[19:41] <xangua> ...
[19:41] <Sh1G3rU> Anuska,  just do a update and upgrade and possibly a dis-upgrade apt-get
[19:41] <Sh1G3rU> it can fix alot of librari links etc
[19:41] <Atluxity> trism: aha, thanks. After I remove it, do I reload unity?
[19:41] <Anuska> thanks
[19:42] <trism> Atluxity: you could see if dunst is running, kill that, then notify-osd should autostart on the next notification
[19:42] <trism> Atluxity: but a log out/back in would do it too
[19:42] <pngl> I have a problem with Ubuntu (13.10) not switching to my secondary battery when the first one is down. The indicator correctly displays both battery and their charge status, but goes into sleep even though the 2nd battery is full. The computer is a Sony vaio pro 13.
[19:43] <yash069> Anuska, what about ubuntu, DE, name ..  ?
[19:44] <urielvigilant> Maybe its better to instal jstest to make koystick work doesn it ?
[19:44] <rmobenchain> I'm using ubuntu 13.10 and was wondering if i can undo some installs done recently.  thought they would help graphics and sound and it made it worse
[19:45] <xangua> urielvigilant: jtest is just a configuration tool, you know you are using wine right¿
[19:45] <Anuska> yash069 what?
[19:46] <yash069> DE=Desktop Enviroment?
[19:46] <urielvigilant> xangua, should i install the joystick windows drives inside te same drive has  OnLIVE
[19:46] <urielvigilant> ?
[19:46] <Anuska> yash069 : text mode
[19:46] <xangua> !appdb
[19:46] <xangua> urielvigilant: you should ask in #winehq anc check the wine database
[19:47] <Anuska> for testing & create app
[19:47] <rmobenchain> I'm using ubuntu 13.10 and was wondering if i can undo some installs done recently.  thought they would help graphics and sound and it made it worse
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, These installs within 13.10 and do you remember what they were?
[19:49] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles:no, I cannot.  is there a way to see a list of recent installs?
[19:49] <yash069> rmobenchain: yes, look in software manager
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Where did you run them from, apt-get has a history if you type it and hit enter.
[19:50] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles:  used the terminal
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, yes, type history and hit enter, some commands show some do n ot is all.
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> installs should show though
[19:51] <rmobenchain> ok... got the history.  stupid question now.  how do i remove?
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, That history is stored in ~/.bash_history thats in home and hidden
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Depends on what it is, I'm not real up on graphic issues, nor so I mess with sound, you might make a list of what your commands are and pastebin it to give a helper info
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> s/so/do
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Then use this with your description here of the details of the problems your having, include the graphic hardware info as well.
[19:56] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles:  quite honestly, it all started when i installed a vlc player.  can i just remove that and see what happens?
[19:57] <ludwiq> yo
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, sure, you can run purge to get it all or just remove, I'm surprised vlc is a problem though.
[19:58] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles:  I have my history up in the terminal, you want me to cut and paste line by line what i have?
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, you would want to use a pastebin if more than one line, and link these installs with the problems basically, organized is the key word. Do you need the apt-get for removing vlc?
[19:59] <rmobenchain> wilee niles: please.  that would be great :)
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, sudo apt-get purge vlc  that should remove all of it and the config if you used remove rather than purge the config would remian.
[20:00] <rmobenchain> (really wishes I remebered how to highlight a person's name when talking to them)
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> !tab | rmobenchain
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[20:01] <MoL0ToV> i have a problem: sometimes i hear the audio, but if i insert the minijack of headphone i cannot hear sound in the headphone. howto fix?
[20:01] <rmobenchain> wilee-nilee: oh yeah, that's right!
[20:01] <MoL0ToV> i have a problem: sometimes i hear the audio, but if i insert the minijack of headphone i cannot hear sound in the headphone. howto fix? sometimes this happen when i before boot windows then linux
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Keep in mind my limitations though on graphic issues and some sound issues, I'm just trying to help you organize this situation. ;)
[20:03] <cable> se habla español?
[20:03] <rmobenchain> wilee-nilee: I appreciate it.  does that sudo apt purge work on something like: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, That is all apt-get those are for calling the repos (update) installing (upgrade) remove and purge are what the phonetically sound like.
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> they*
[20:04] <cable> Hello, I'm only speak in spanish very cafe con leche
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> !es | cable
[20:05] <cable> thaks!
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> cable, ;)
[20:05] <rmobenchain> ! wilee-nilee:  what about this?  sudo apt-get install upgrade flashplugin-installer
[20:06] <rmobenchain> huh?  what?
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Not correct upgrade is used to install what update found, you would already have the latest flashplugin-installer, however some packages have newer versions per the release, flash is the same for all.
[20:08] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles: hmmm... this is just agitating now.  youtube is all sorts of choppy and i know i must have done something
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Flash is easiest installed with installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras which includes other codecs and the ms fonts if you want them.
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Are you trying to use the highest like 1080 resolution perchance on youtube?
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> high definition in other words
[20:10] <rmobenchain> wilee-nilee: no.  am on 480p
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, What is your chip IE cpu and the ram amount?
[20:12] <rmobenchain> wilee-nilee: uh, where would i find that?
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Not the clearest question, mainly I'm trying to see if the hardware is up for the high load of what your doing, and or in the end check if anything is using up resources that should not.
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, What is the computer maker and model?
[20:14] <rmobenchain> HP Pavilion Slimline s3220n
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, An okay computer about 5 years old 2 gig s ram and a dual core, Are you using any other resources when trying youtube, and is this 64 or 32 bit?
[20:17] <rmobenchain> wilee-nilee: am on a 32bit and only have facebook open in another tab
[20:17] <rmobenchain> wilee-nilee: am also using Chrome.
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Facebook is a very large code draw, try closing it the using youtube.
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> then*
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> the browsers are a bit high users of the ram as well
[20:18] <rmobenchain> wilee-nilee: ok, trying now
[20:19] <trism> rmobenchain: you aren't using the chrome dev channel, are you? they recently enabled the aura, and it was terribly slow for me until I enabled Override software rendering list in chrome://flags
[20:19] <Atluxity> any of you use gnome shell and got any tips you want to share with me? extentions or simular
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, You should install htop, and run htop from the terminal and it will tell you what is using what and how much such ans the cpu=chip and memory=ram. A conky would help to see this right on the desktop.
[20:19] <rmobenchain> !trism: not sure what you are talking about.  kinda of a newbie to ubuntu
[20:20] <Pici> rmobenchain: please don't start your messages with !, it confuses our channel bot.
[20:20] <trism> rmobenchain: I was just wondering which version of chrome you were running, they have stable, beta and dev channels, but if you don't know you probably aren't running dev so you can ignore my comment
[20:21] <rmobenchain> trism: I'm not sure what you're talking about
[20:21] <rmobenchain> trism: Am using Chrome Version 31.0.1650.57
[20:22] <trism> rmobenchain: yeah that's not the version of the dev channel, it is chrome 33
[20:22] <trism> rmobenchain: so not the issue I mentioned, sorry
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Chrome also has its own built in flash, just a heads up.
[20:22] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles: how would I install the htop?
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, sudo apt-get instal htop
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> sudo apt-get install htop  sorry
[20:23] <Possible> Hi everyone
[20:24] <rmobenchain> wilee-nilee: when I look at chrome, I have IcedTea-Web Plugin (using IcedTea-Web 1.4 (1.4-3ubuntu2)) - Version: 1.4, Adobe Flash Player (2 files) - Version: 11.9.900.152,
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, yep
[20:24] <rmobenchain> wilee-nilee: that looks good to you?
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, for anyone interested the graphic card is nVidia GeForce 6150SE
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> I'm an intel user never messed with nvidia
[20:25] <rmobenchain> wilee-nilee: graphics card is GeForce 6150SE nForce 430/integrated/SSE2/3DNOW!
[20:26] <BluesKaj> rmobenchain. nvidia-current driver?
[20:26] <Possible> I was wondering if anyone can help me with my problem. A few days ago, I installed a PPTP VPN server. Everything is working fine accept one thing: When I want to connect with my iPad the VPN is connected, but there is no data connection. When I am using my desktop, everything works fine. Does anyone know what the problem can be?
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Yeah you mentioned graphic problems, it seems though that this all revolves around the youtube issue, thanks for confirming that for any other users that may have needed info.
[20:27] <[Gentoo]> Possible: the ipad
[20:27] <dougl> Hello BluesKaj don't let me bug you just wanted to say Hi.
[20:28] <BluesKaj> hi dougl , how goes it ?
[20:28] <Possible> @[Gentoo] I also tried to test it with my Nexus 4 Android device, same issue.
[20:28] <nita> sall
[20:28] <rmobenchain> BluesKaj: I believe my nvidia is current.  ran sudo apt-install nvidia-current after 13.10 upgrade
[20:29] <dougl> BluesKaj, I am doing awesome... got my new notebook completely branded running kubuntu 13.04 and 13.10, hope you are doing well to.
[20:30] <dougl> there is not one splash screen anywhere that does not say asus republic of gamers.
[20:30] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles: you think it could just be youtube and not me then?
[20:31] <Guest67404> trying to write a file to a RW CD.  Using a stock Dell Dimension 8200, moving to a Lenovo IdeaPad 400 Touch.  When I try to write a file to the CD, it says :not enough space."  It's a blank CD and the file is only 24KB.  Any ideas???   Toivo
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, I doubt it, it would most likely be the computer is being driven hard and trying to keep up, htop will tell you, if this is correct.
[20:32] <BluesKaj> dougl. cool sounds like you've got it under control there
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Upgrades can have problems however, one never knows it is a bit of a knock out the variables really.
[20:33] <dougl> BluesKaj, yep
[20:34] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles: well, i'm installing the htop now
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Try lower resolution numbers just for testing.
[20:34] <rmobenchain> wilee-nilee: I did that, and didn't help any
[20:34] <rmobenchain> wilee-nilee: ok, htop installed.  how do i run it and see the info?
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, tyoe htop in the terminal.
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> type
[20:35] <Guest67404> I apologize group.  Didn't see the topic.  Will try another route.  Toivo
[20:36] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles: ok... wow.  not really sure what I'm looking at here.  lol
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Your mainly looking for the overall cpu and memory usage, and what any individual app is using.
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Hehe welcome to the matrix. ;)
[20:37] <Paso89> ciao
[20:37] <Paso89> !list
[20:38]  * wilee-nilee wonders about the cultural schema that has all the file sharing hits being Italians it seems.
[20:39] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles:  149 tasks, 319 thr, 4 running
[20:39] <ObrienDave> wow Italian warez channel week?
[20:39] <stunts513> anyone have an idea how to setup ubuntu to reload my wifi modules whenever it doesnt detect internet without having to promt me for root privis?
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> stunts513, Its not root its the user password.
[20:40] <stunts513> well yea but it needs elevated privis
[20:40] <bekks> stunts513: Yes.
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> stunts513, Are you sure?
[20:40] <stunts513> well yes to run rmmod and modprobe you need to elevate your privis
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> stunts513, Cool, well more details would probably help, IE the wifi hardware, and how you set it up.
[20:42] <stunts513> to put it plainly the b43 driver seems to be messing up randomly and the o nly way for it to connect or detect any wifi is to reload the b43 module
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> to the channel
[20:43] <rmobenchain> wilee-nilee: how do i know if too much memory or anything is being eaten up?
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> mmmmm frenacho
[20:44] <frenacho> wilee-nilee: You *know* whose nick I'm parodying.  You dont know what exactly have been compromised.
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[20:48] <skypce> bekks i try with lamp-server install from tasksel
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> afk
[20:48] <bekks> skypce: That will not safe you from installed backdoors, etc.
[20:48] <skypce> bekks i try with it cant change the password
[20:48] <bekks> skypce: Reinstall the entire server.
[20:48] <skypce> no way i was tried
[20:48] <skypce> do you know where is stored databases and users?
[20:48] <skypce> some file
[20:49] <skypce> folder
[20:49] <skypce> i was remove all mysql from etc
[20:49] <skypce> when i try to install again ,it doesnt change password
[20:49] <bekks> skypce: In the mysql database "mysql". And you can find a procedure to recover a lost mysql root user password on www.mysql.com
[20:50] <bekks> skypce: So as you can see: someone else has still access to your mysql and resets your password. Reinstall the server.
[20:50] <tc0nn_> On CentOS, if you build a box manually (non-automated) you get to keep a copy of the kickstart file. Does Ubuntu keep a copy of the recipe used so you can automate it later? Trying to get my custom partman config working...
[20:50] <skypce> somebody block my root user
[20:50] <bekks> skypce: The attacker.
[20:50] <skypce> when i watch in phpmyadmin by user table
[20:50] <skypce> root user doesnt appear
[20:51] <skypce> and i cant create root user
[20:51] <bekks> skypce: Then it was deleted.
[20:51] <skypce> i cant create it again beeks
[20:51] <skypce> i was trying to configure with
[20:51] <bekks> skypce: I know. Reinstall the entire server. No other chance.
[20:51] <bekks> skypce: You dont have to tell me the same thing five times.
[20:51] <skypce> i was formatted 2 times
[20:51] <skypce> and again and again
[20:52] <skypce> my machine is hacked
[20:52] <bekks> skypce: Then reinstall it from a cd. Not just the mysql server. The entire machine.
[20:52] <skypce> only way to run lamp is with xampp
[20:52] <TK-1942> Trying to download files to a RE-CD on a Dell Dimension 8200 running ubuntu/Firefox.  Have a new Lenovo IdeaPad touchscreen that has been stripped of Windows 8 and running Ubuntu 12.  When I try to use CD/DVD Creator to download files, it tells me there's not enough space on the CD.  It's a new, empty TDK 700MD CD. I'm assuming CD/DVD Creator is using Brasero.  What am I doing wrong or what additional application do I need?
[20:53] <skypce> bekks formatting is not the solution
[20:53] <bekks> skypce: It is the only solution.
[20:53] <skypce> bekks i was formatted two times
[20:53] <bekks> skypce: A compromised box has to be reinstalled from scratch.
[20:53] <skypce> by this problem
[20:53] <bekks> skypce: And you got hacked two times. So think about your security measurements.
[20:54] <skypce> thank you bekks
[20:54] <skypce> i will try to find the problem
[20:54] <bekks> skypce: LAck of security is the problem.
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> tc0nn_, Might be a question best asked if not answered here at #ubuntu-server
[20:55] <jhutchins_wk> TK-1942: What size is the image you're trying to write?
[20:55] <tc0nn_> I haven't seen any suggestions, let alone answers. So apologies for the cross-post.
[20:56] <TK-1942> 24KB
[20:56] <jhutchins_wk> tc0nn_: No, for a non-automated build it doesn't create a preseed file, but /msg dpkg apt-clone for a way to do that.
[20:56] <TK-1942> It's an Open Systems "Excel" file
[20:57] <jhutchins_wk> tc0nn_: sorry, /msg ubottu - might not be on this bot.
[20:57] <bgardner> TK-1942: Run CD/DVD creator from a command line and see if you get any output in the terminal that helps you.
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> TK-1942, Try downloading it and using brasero.
[20:57] <TK-1942> Okay, thanks.  I'll check it out.  Much appreciated.
[20:59] <tc0nn_> jhutchins_wk: thanks. I'll look it up. ubottu was clueless
[21:15] <wolfy1339> does anyone have any fix for the marvell avastar 350n (88W8797) for ubuntu 13.10?
[21:15] <smooke_> wolfy1339, all fine??
[21:16] <wolfy1339> smooke_: what do you mean by all fine?
[21:17] <smooke_> wolfy1339, nothing
[21:17] <OerHeks> wolfy1339, nope https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1165938
[21:19] <wolfy1339> what's really intreging is that wifi works fine on a live usb(try ubuntu) but works for some days and stops working in ubuntu (installed)
[21:20] <OerHeks> wolfy1339, oh great .. does the live mode set it to 54 mbit ? maybe trottle-down could help?
[21:20] <wolfy1339> OerHeks:i don't know
[21:22] <morris> ciao
[21:24] <krambiorix> hi, i have this problem  http://pastebin.com/B1ZSwmWz
[21:25] <Sh1G3rU> is that dutch?? upgrade your system
[21:26] <krambiorix> Sh1G3rU, yesit's dutch and i already did an apt-get upgrade
[21:26] <Sh1G3rU> dist-upgrade you have library incompatibilities this fixes them
[21:27] <k1l_> krambiorix: you got PPAs active?
[21:27] <Sh1G3rU> and try to disable PPAs
[21:27] <Sh1G3rU> temporary
[21:27] <k1l_> that packages dont look like ubuntu packages at all
[21:28] <quinten>  /msg NickServ identify quint1998
[21:28] <krambiorix> there are no PPAs
[21:28] <OerHeks> squeeze - debian
[21:28] <k1l_> 2.7.8.dfsg-2+squeeze8
[21:28] <Aaron> quinten, change ur password dude
[21:28] <topper4125> ooh... someone's gonna need to change that password
[21:28] <wolfy1339> quinten:you just displayed your password
[21:28] <k1l_> that is no ubuntu package. krambiorix which ubuntu is that exact?
[21:28] <7CBAAC300> Hi! is it possible to make a macro to paste pre-defined text in Ubuntu?
[21:28] <Sh1G3rU> i got a password
[21:28] <Sh1G3rU> :P
[21:29] <Sh1G3rU> krambiorix, can you paste somewhere uname -a
[21:29] <reisio> 7CBAAC300: yup
[21:29] <krambiorix> ow hell i'm in ubuntu
[21:29] <7CBAAC300> reisio: How? I would really have a need for an alias like that
[21:29] <krambiorix> i should be in debian
[21:30] <reisio> 7CBAAC300: doing what, exactly?
[21:30] <Sh1G3rU> same repositories a guess
[21:30] <7CBAAC300> reisio: Pasting a "proxy address" of my school to read articles. Really frustrated to write that over and over again
[21:31] <reisio> 7CBAAC300: into a terminal, or?
[21:32] <7CBAAC300> reisio: Into address bar. Even better if it would paste it always to http://www.address.com#THIS_SPOT#/a/b/c/article.pdf
[21:32] <7CBAAC300> reisio: But even a script, which pastes it to the text field where the cursor blinks is a lifesaver.
[21:34] <Sh1G3rU> hi krambiorix have you fixed that??
[21:35] <morris> ciao si parla in italiano
[21:35] <k1l_> Sh1G3rU: i think the #debian boys will help him if its not solved :)
[21:35] <krambiorix> Sh1G3rU, nope :D
[21:35] <k1l_> !it | morris
[21:35] <Sh1G3rU> i know k1l_
[21:36] <morris> grazie
[21:36] <Sh1G3rU> morris,  no questo e un chananale dedicato alla lingua inglese
[21:37] <Sh1G3rU> omg my firefox just crashed
[21:37] <jhutchins_wk> tc0nn_: There may be a script or something that will create a preseed script from a template box.  It would make sense.
[21:37] <jhutchins_wk> Sh1G3rU: Like it never does that.
[21:38] <tc0nn_> That would be nice..
[21:38] <wolfy1339> how do i find how much ubuntu is throtling my wifif?
[21:39] <tc0nn_> You could run a speedtest from the Ubuntu box, then run the same speedtest from another box.
[21:40] <Sh1G3rU> jhutchins_wk,  actually it is the first time it crashes on me on xubuntu 13.10
[21:40] <wolfy1339> tc0nn_:no.. only my computer is running ubuntu
[21:42] <zeropointnine> hi, I have a question about dependencies in apt-get. I've installed emacs from source, and would like to install a package that depends on emacs, but I'd rather not also install emacs23 or emacs-snapshot via apt-get. How can I make apt-get recognize the installed-via-source emacs?
[21:43] <morris> scusate si parla in italiano
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> wolfy1339, Ubuntu would not be actually throttling, that word implies intent.
[21:45] <zykotick9> zeropointnine: i put dpgk's equivs factoid on http://paste.ubuntu.com/6445007/ see if ubuntu has the same?
[21:45] <Sh1G3rU> zeropointnine,  you can use the apt-get --no-upgrade install package
[21:45] <Ben64> !it | morris
[21:46] <Sh1G3rU> morris,  devi andara al #ubuntu-it
[21:47] <schultza> what's the best and most secure install of truecrypt i can get for ubuntu?
[21:47] <bekks> schultza: the official one.
[21:47] <bekks> !truecrypt | schultza
[21:47] <schultza> is that the package tcplay ?
[21:47] <Sh1G3rU> the official packas in the repositories is the safest
[21:48] <bekks> !info tcplay
[21:48] <bekks> !info truecrypt
[21:48] <bekks> schultza: Refer to this article please: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrueCrypt
[21:49] <7CBAAC300> reisio: So do you have any tips?
[21:49] <zykotick9> bekks: also no gnu/linux distros includes truecrypt (it's kinda scary license wise).  schultza i'd strongly encourage you to check out alternatives!
[21:50] <bekks> zykotick9: yeah, indeed it is.
[21:50] <schultza> what is the good alternative to truecrypt?
[21:50] <zykotick9> bekks: s/also/almost/
[21:50] <zykotick9> schultza: check out dm-crypt
[21:51] <root> hi
[21:51] <zykotick9> schultza: research cryptsetup as well, i believe (i think they're related somehow?)
[21:51] <Rory> P0/msg ubottu ubottu
[21:51] <Guest29449> i updated my ubuntu, and now the X doesn't run and the home don't decrypt :(((
[21:51] <Guest29449> is there a massive problem since last update?
[21:52] <k1l_> !rootirc > Guest29449
[21:52] <Guest29449> now i prefer to solve the problem
[21:52] <zeropointnine> Sh1G3rU, is there a way to do the opposite, too? Situation: emacs23 and emacs-snapshot we're uninstalling, so I did a botched manual job and am getting errors when installing/uninstalling anything (including your command), so I'd like for apt-get to pretend they don't exist.
[21:52] <Guest29449> any clue?
[21:53] <Rory> Guest29449: You can set a nickname for chat by typing "/nick SomeName" in this window
[21:53] <k1l_> Guest29449: any error messages? out of the blue there is no problem known
[21:53] <ring3> ok
[21:53] <Sh1G3rU> zeropointnine, can you paste the errorrs on the pastebin??
[21:53] <Rory> ring3: When you first boot into the Grub menu, can you select an older kernel from the list and try booting from that?
[21:53] <Sh1G3rU> !paste
[21:53] <ring3> Rory: older kernels also fail
[21:54] <ring3> is not a kernel problem
[21:54] <Sh1G3rU> !rootirc > Sh1G3rU
[21:54] <ring3> i modified the init=/bin/sh on the grub and boot with last kernel
[21:54] <ring3> but x doesnt work and home doesnt decrypt
[21:54] <Rory> ring3: You say x doesn't work; how does that show? Do you get an error message?
[21:55] <ring3> the screen is black
[21:55] <ring3> and cant go to shells
[21:55] <ring3> and cant go to terms
[21:55] <ring3> ttys
[21:55] <ring3> doesnt work
[21:55] <FloodBot1> ring3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:55] <ring3> only magic sysrq
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> cough backtrack
[21:55] <Rory> ring3: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[21:56] <ring3> how can i view the version?
[21:56] <Rory> ring3: Boot to recovery mode from Grub
[21:56] <ring3> 3.11.0-13-generic 20-Ubuntu 64bits
[21:56] <Rory> ring3: Then run the command: cat /etc/issue
[21:56] <ring3> ubuntu 13.10
[21:57] <zeropointnine> Sh1G3ru http://paste.ubuntu.com/6445057/
[21:57] <ring3> with a all-in-one pc tactile screen 27''
[21:57] <ring3> radeon driver
[21:57] <zeropointnine> I'd rather not file an emacs bug report if I don't have to, especially because it's probably my own doing.
[21:58] <Rory> ring3: By "radeon driver" do you mean the open-source or the AMD one?
[21:58] <ring3> dont know
[21:58] <ring3> xorg log  (EE) failed to initialize GLX  (compatible nvidia x driver not found)
[21:58] <Ben64> ring3: why did you init=/bin/sh
[21:58] <ring3> becouse can go to tty's
[21:59] <ring3> all the system is blocked
[21:59] <Ben64> just start normally and hit ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[21:59] <ring3> ecryptfs-mount-private --> Inserted auth tok ... -> open: no such file or directory
[21:59] <k1l_> ring3: nvidia? didnt you say you nee a radeon driver?
[21:59] <ring3> password ok but doesn't decrypt
[22:00] <zeropointnine> Sh1G3rU, I'll be gone for about an hour.
[22:00] <ring3> k1l_: (II) RADEON(0) [XvMC] Associated with Radeon textured video
[22:00] <Sh1G3rU> zeropointnine,  you can try to see what packages have installed with dpkg --get-selections
[22:01] <Rory> ring3: What is the output of "lspci | grep VGA"
[22:01] <Sh1G3rU> and try to remove the emacs with dpkg --deinstall emac23 and the other thing
[22:01] <ring3> Advanced micro device, inc [AMD/ATI] headthrow pro [Radeon HD 785M/8850M]
[22:01] <ring3> (VGA Compatible controller)
[22:02] <k1l_> ring3: how come that message? <ring3> xorg log  (EE) failed to initialize GLX  (compatible nvidia x driver not found)
[22:02] <ring3> why ecrypt-mount-private fails?
[22:02] <ring3> k1l_: dont know :)
[22:02] <Rory> ring3: Can you now run "sudo apt-get purge fglrx fglrx-updates"
[22:02] <k1l_> ring3: so what did you do before that system doesnt boot up anymore?
[22:03] <ring3> k1l_: aptitude update
[22:03] <ring3> Rory:  fglrx is not installed
[22:03] <Rory> ring3: That on its own doesn't update any of the packages on your system, it only downloads a list of new package versions
[22:04] <schultza> so, other than the Licensing, is cryptsetup, dm-crypt, et al better than truecrypt?
[22:04] <ring3> sorry Rory aptitude upgrade
[22:04] <Rory> ring3: In recovery mode, can you run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[22:04] <ring3> ok Rory
[22:04] <Sh1G3rU> !cn
[22:05] <7CBAAC300> Does anyone know how to make a macro to paste a pre-defined string into a textfield (at the cursor) ?
[22:06] <ring3> schultza: luks
[22:06] <schultza> but is it better than tc (in other terms than licensing)?
[22:06] <gordonjcp> schultza: they're all equally likely to lose all your data, if that's what you mean
[22:07] <gordonjcp> schultza: they'll all slow your machine down to about 10% normal, too
[22:07] <zykotick9> schultza: other reading of possible interest to you re:TC http://istruecryptauditedyet.com/
[22:07] <schultza> im not worrying about slowing down the system. I'm worried about protecting a few files from the wrong eyes.
[22:08] <schultza> oh.. so it's not like gnupg, not publicly reviewed, ok. thanks.
[22:08] <ring3> Rory: the upgrade -> 0 packages upgraded
[22:09] <zykotick9> schultza: if it is just a couple of files, then gpg might be a good solution
[22:09] <schultza> well, it's a few files in comparison to an operating system. :)
[22:09] <mahmoud_> knfs
[22:09] <mahmoud_> hallo
[22:09] <schultza> mostly personal identifiable information, financial, business, etc.
[22:09] <mahmoud_> yes
[22:10] <Rory> !nomodeset | ring3 Can you try this
[22:10] <schultza> !de
[22:10] <ring3> ubottu: i'm not sure, but i think i have setted the nomodeset
[22:11] <Rory> ring3: I mean, can you please follow the instructions in that link on how to try setting the "nomodeset" kernel parameter
[22:11] <ring3> oks thnx
[22:13] <ring3> cya thnx 4 all
[22:19] <gimmic> hmm
[22:19] <gimmic> anyone know what the system settings application is called?
[22:19] <gimmic> my ubuntu is slightly hosed
[22:20] <gimmic> gonna try 'systemsettings'
[22:20] <trism> gimmic: gnome-control-center
[22:21] <gimmic> trying to fix a package this morning.. uninstalled a bunch of core components
[22:21] <gimmic> well, not core.. but pretty core- nautilus was gone, gnome-control-center is apparently gone
[22:21] <jubale> Anyone know the real reason for Linux Mint? I mean it appears to merely be a rebranded Ubuntu.
[22:21] <gimmic> I'm not very familiar with apt.. is there a way I can reinstall what ubuntu considers 'core'?
[22:22] <gimmic> like yum groupinstall
[22:22] <k1l_> jubale: that is more a topic for the offtopic channel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:22] <trism> gimmic: you could try installing the ubuntu-desktop package
[22:22] <Guest05418> hi people how to know if my laptop "hp dv6 6090ee" is fully supported by ubuntu ?
[22:22] <gimmic> trism: is that going to thrash any lightdm customization I did?
[22:23] <trism> gimmic: probably not, but nothing you couldn't fix
[22:23] <DX099> hello
[22:23] <ArTeS> hi
[22:23] <gimmic> the package that fubared me was desktop-file-utils
[22:24] <smoores> How do I ensure that all files created and edited in a directory have read/write group permissions for a specific group? I want all users assigned to the developers group to be able to read/write /var/www files
[22:24] <DX099> Unity had the ability to directly open & play a song withing rythmbox library when selecting said song from the Music lens, but now, it only opens rhythmbox and does nothing else. I'm on Ubuntu 13.04. Does anyone have an idea about how to enable describle behaviour ?
[22:25] <geirha> smoores: setgid does two out of three
[22:25] <gimmic> smoores: setguid?
[22:26] <gimmic> I always want to call it sticky
[22:26] <geirha> smoores: chgrp thegroup /the/dir; chmod g+s /the/dir  # from now on, all files created in /the/dir have thegroup as group-owner.
[22:27] <geirha> smoores: As for the read+write permissions, that can be solved by telling the developers to use 007 or 002 as umask; otherwise, you can enforce it by enabling acl on the filesystem, and setting the wanted default permission bits with setfacl
[22:28] <Guest05418> hi people how to know if my laptop "hp dv6 6090ee" is fully supported by ubuntu ?
[22:28] <urielvigilant> How to remove a icone from Lubuntu 13.10 menu ? " ...iḿ newby on Linux! "    ; I installed a game called : " ..CriticallMass .."  using the "Lubuntu Software Center " , then i removed trought out the same way "...Lubuntu software Center..." , Why the Icone satyed on Lubuntu Menu for this game ? How to remove it ?
[22:29] <urielvigilant> *Where you read "...satyed" , you must read "..STAYED.." ;
[22:29] <smoores> thanks geirha
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> Guest05418, If a live cd runs it should be, In general I would be surprised if it does not, some installs are easier than others as far as a fully working setup however.
[22:30] <pedepy> uh i just upgraded to saucy and my kb is not working .. what am i supposed to do now?
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> Guest05418, maybe look through here. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/HP/
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> pedepy, kb?
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> keyboard?
[22:31] <pedepy> keyboard
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> pedepy, Is it a plugin?
[22:31] <geirha> smoores: Oh and new directories created in /the/dir will also inherit the setgid bit
[22:31] <ArTeS> :D
[22:31] <pedepy> i had similar issue with the latest archlinux install cd
[22:32] <pedepy> so i installed 13.04 no problems even after full system update
[22:32] <pedepy> but now i ran the update to 13.10 and not working
[22:33] <pedepy> wilie no laptop
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> pedepy: No input at all?  Can you boot to rescue mode?  Do you get a keyboard in the console?
[22:33] <pedepy> connects via ps2 inteeface internally afaik
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> pedepy, Try a live cd of 13.10 maybe, it being a problem on another OS is kinda a red flag of some sort.
[22:33] <pedepy> im not familiar with ubuntu how u boot into that
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> !who | pedepy
[22:34] <pedepy> livecd 13.10 did the same thats why i installed 13.04
[22:34] <NewUser> Guys ubuntu doesnt recognize my video card when I try to install it
[22:35] <pedepy> im using webchat on my iphone bare with me its not easy lol
[22:35] <pedepy> how do u boot into console / rescue?
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> pedepy, As far as the OS 13.04 and 13.10 are only sperated by a few newer versions of apps, maybe 13.04 or ever 12.04 which has 5 years support might be more realistic at least if this can't be fixed.
[22:36] <Rory> pedepy: From the Grub boot menu, select Recovery Mode
[22:36] <NewUser> pedepy:  wow mine is 5:10
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> NewUser, ubuntu 5.10?
[22:37] <Rory> NewUser: Can you run the command: cat /etc/issue
[22:37] <NewUser> They gave it to me to try it out
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> !who | NewUser
[22:39] <NewUser> Rory: I cant run anything, my video card is not on its short list of vodeo cards supported
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> NewUser, what doe lsb_release -a show
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> does*
[22:40] <NewUser> ok ubottu
[22:41] <NewUser> wilee-nilee: I cant run commands on it
[22:41] <jhutchins_wk> 5.10 would be current RHEL/Centos/SL.
[22:41] <pedepy> ok sorry i had to get out it was getting a little much for my iphone safari
[22:41] <NewUser> Ill try again
[22:42] <pedepy> so i rebooted and got to the grub menu .... but instead of rescue mode i decided to try kernel 3.8 instead of what seems to be the default 3.11 and now its working
[22:42] <pedepy> so .. kernel bug or module bug or something .. i presume
[22:42] <jhutchins_wk> NewUser: For a standard ubuntu install the list of usable video cards is pretty extensive.
[22:42] <pedepy> u guys never heard about that before ?
[22:43] <jhutchins_wk> NewUser: Here's a list: http://www.x.org/wiki/Projects/Drivers/
[22:43] <Rory> pedepy: That was the first thing I asked you to try, and you told me that you tried it and it still didn't work
[22:44] <pedepy> rory like i said i was trying to chat using my iphone ... i said i went into the 13.10 livecd with the same problem
[22:44] <Rory> Oh sorry pedepy I thought you were someone else
[22:44] <pedepy> ok
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> NewUser, Is this Centos?
[22:45] <dgarstang3> Anyone here on a mac managed to put their chef fu stack onto a virtual box vm, and have it fire off vagrant? Does that work ok? I dont want to pollute my mac
[22:45] <dgarstang3> oops wrong room
[22:45] <Rory> NewUser: Can you run the command: cat /etc/issue
[22:45] <NewUser> jhutchins_wk: it says: select the desired X server desired. And theres a list of 28
[22:45] <pedepy> im not too familiar with the new grub configuration file if i want that option to be the default can i just change set default "0" to set default "2" ?
[22:46] <NewUser> wilee-nilee: it says ubuntu 5.10 amd6
[22:47] <jhutchins_wk> pedepy: You can edit /etc/default/grub and  change the DEFAULT=0 to whichever entry you want to boot instead, then run update-grub.
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> NewUser, Way beyond end of life get a 12.04 cd or above to 13.10
[22:47] <ring3> hi
[22:47] <ring3> I mounted the crypted partition :))
[22:47] <pedepy> update-grub not grub2 ?
[22:48] <ring3> the problem was that my /var/run have dissapeared  o_O
[22:48] <ring3> and /dev/shm doesn't exist
[22:48] <NewUser> wilee-nilee: is it very different?
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> !eol | NewUser
[22:48] <ring3> can you do a ls -l /var/run ?
[22:49] <pedepy> so does 13.10 come with the two kernels or is 3.8 a leftover from my 13.04 installation ?
[22:49] <k1l_> NewUser: there is no way you want a ubuntu 5.10 running. please install a supported ubuntu version
[22:49] <jhutchins_wk> pedepy: That would be breezy badger from 2005 if it's really 5.10.
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> NewUser, way different and not supported, you don;t even have access to the repos as is.
[22:49] <pedepy> jhutchins_wk: thats not me
[22:49] <ring3> k1l_: my /var/run dissapeared :/
[22:50] <k1l_> ring3: i am not familiar with encryption.
[22:50] <ring3> k1l_: is not a crypt problem
[22:50]  * wilee-nilee slips jhutchins_wk some coffee for the caffeine
[22:50] <Strumpa> Anyone have any guides for making ubuntu 13,10 faster on my girlfriends laptop?
[22:51] <Ari-Yang> Strumpa: perhaps using a different DE/"flavor"
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> Strumpa, generally faster means more up to date hardware.
[22:51] <Ari-Yang> Strumpa: like lxde
[22:51] <Ari-Yang> that could help
[22:51] <sidney2466> How do I create a windows 8 .iso bootable usb flash drive in ubuntu 12.04? I have already tried winUSB and MultiSystem butdidn't work.
[22:51] <Strumpa> Ari-Yang: would that mean installing another OS?
[22:52] <Ari-Yang> !lxde | Strumpa
[22:52] <Strumpa> Ari-Yang: so no then? =D
[22:53] <Ari-Yang> ...no
[22:53] <Strumpa> yes, no
[22:53] <sidney2466> How do I create a windows 8 .iso bootable usb flash drive in ubuntu 12.04? I have already tried winUSB and MultiSystem butdidn't work.
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> sidney2466, look at the winusb here, there are other easy ways if this does not work. http://askubuntu.com/questions/116885/can-i-use-ubuntu-to-write-a-windows-7-iso-to-usb-in-ubuntu
[22:54] <Sh1G3rU> sidney2466, you have to format a USB in ntfs use gparted or something else then you have to make the usb bootable with unetbootin
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> wilee-nilee, Ah I see you tried it already, a ntfs partition with a boot flag and extracted with the archive manager works a right click on the iso
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> sidney2466, I would md5sum the iso winusb has worked everytime here.
[22:57] <sander> How do I get java in my browser?
[22:57] <Sh1G3rU> install extras
[22:57] <Sh1G3rU> from software center
[22:58] <sander> Sh1G3rU, what exact package name?
[22:59] <Sh1G3rU> sander ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:59] <sander> Sh1G3rU, I already have that installed.
[22:59] <zeropointnine> Sh1G3rU, I'm back, did you see the error message about uninstalling emacs?
[23:00] <Sh1G3rU> zeropointnine, yes
[23:00] <Sh1G3rU> scroll up zeropointnine
[23:01] <Sh1G3rU> sander, you have to add the java PPA
[23:01] <Sh1G3rU> the oracle PPA
[23:03] <Sh1G3rU> sander_ sander you have to add the oracle PPA sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/javam && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[23:03] <reisio> 7CBAAC300: you figure it out?
[23:03] <sander> Sh1G3rU, thanks :-) Yeah. What google also said about they're ppa :-D
[23:04] <Sh1G3rU> sander,  you are the best googler :P :P
[23:04] <Marion> Hello all!  This is a desperate pled for help.  I'm having an issue with Ubuntu VM on virtual box crapping out on apt-get update.  I'm experienced software, but new into web development and LAMP configuration.
[23:04] <Marion> ^^plea
[23:05] <zeropointnine> Sh1G3rU: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6445320/
[23:05] <Sh1G3rU> zeropointnine,  try installing it from the begining
[23:05] <OttOmanTR> is here anyone good at linux?
[23:06] <Sh1G3rU> zeropointnine, fresh install
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, This a Ubuntu OS?
[23:07] <OttOmanTR> Why can't I backup disk partitions under linux? everytime I restore partition, I get grub error
[23:07] <OttOmanTR> wilee-nilee: any distro
[23:07] <Hertz> I hate Ubuntu 13.10 so much. Mint 16 needs to hurry up so I can hop over.
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, This is Ubuntu support only, however there is ##linux and channels for other distros.
[23:08] <OttOmanTR> this is really frustrating,  I never had such problem under windows
[23:08] <OttOmanTR> I have the same problem for ubuntu too but ojk I'll ask tehre
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, use clonezilla
[23:08] <Sh1G3rU> OttOmanTR,  bu aksham , you have to update grup where to find all the partitions because it does not update even if a hdd/partition is cloned
[23:09] <Sh1G3rU> diferend hash tables and keys
[23:09] <OttOmanTR> wilee-nilee: I used that too also redo backup
[23:09] <OttOmanTR> Sh1G3rU: Why don't backup programs do that?
[23:10] <Sh1G3rU> i used norton ghost 11 and it worked fine for me , the one you get on hierens boot cd 9.9
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, clonezilla saves the mbr as is if hyou have removed the OS that had the mbr control it will error, easy fix though.
[23:10] <AnonSyn> hello
[23:11] <AnonSyn> anyone playing with bitcoin?
[23:11] <AnonSyn> wanna start?
[23:11] <AnonSyn> join #cex
[23:11] <AnonSyn> :D
[23:11] <FloodBot1> AnonSyn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:11] <Sh1G3rU> OttOmanTR,  or you havent cloned it properly
[23:11] <OttOmanTR> Sh1G3rU: I have Linux Mint and Windows XP isntalled on my disk. Sometimes I want to try other distros but then the nightmare begins
[23:11] <Sh1G3rU> OttOmanTR, just update grup from the installation disk on the repair menu
[23:11] <Sh1G3rU> and it will work fine
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, read my last post do you know what I mean by mbr control?
[23:12] <Sh1G3rU> repair console*
[23:12] <7CBAAC300> Does anyone know how to make a macro to paste a pre-defined string into a textfield (at the cursor) ?
[23:12] <OttOmanTR> wilee-nilee: I just cloned a disk using clonezille, no it doesn't restore grub
[23:13] <Sh1G3rU> OttOmanTR,  grub has his own partition called boot
[23:13] <trism> 7CBAAC300: you could use xdotool: xdotool type 'This is the text I want to type';
[23:13] <OttOmanTR> Sh1G3rU: Wait a second, everytime we restore partition, grub guids changes too?
[23:14] <bunduru> would love that this guide would work :s https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html
[23:14] <Sh1G3rU> OttOmanTR,  grub has to rehash the MBR (master boot table) and it aobviously has changed since last cloning
[23:15] <OttOmanTR> Sh1G3rU: Can you suggest me a small distro that has grub and boot-repair?
[23:15] <Sh1G3rU> OttOmanTR,  if you dont know how to restore grub you have to use tools who does
[23:16] <Sh1G3rU> OttOmanTR,  hierens boot cd has alot of tools who does automatic repair
[23:16] <Sh1G3rU> but any linux distro has a repair console for grub if you know how to use it
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, Clonezilla does not restore grub, it saves the mbr as it was when you clone.
[23:16] <bunduru> anybody knows about a good working guide to install/configure openvpn on ubuntu?
[23:17] <OttOmanTR> Sh1G3rU: the problem is exactly this. I tried boot-repair live cd. I try to repair boot but it says some packages are missing. Unbelievable
[23:17] <OttOmanTR> Tried redo backup, it doesn't have grub package
[23:17] <7CBAAC300> trism: Thanks, I'll try that
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, You have the bootinfo summary saved from bootrepair, honestly I think you erring in several places I can see it from your descriptions and understanding.
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> are*
[23:19] <Sh1G3rU> OttOmanTR,  that is because the windows partition/s takes over ,
[23:19] <abaddon> OttOmanTR: How is it broken exactly?
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> Sh1G3rU, hirens is not allowed here or even on the ##Windows channel, and your help is at best faulty.
[23:20] <OttOmanTR> wilee-nilee: I don't understand the benefits of saving mbr to restoring grub which is my problem
[23:20] <OttOmanTR> my problem is grub, it doesn't restore after partition restore
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, I don;t think you understand is all.
[23:21] <OttOmanTR> I have to it manually
[23:21] <OttOmanTR> do*
[23:21] <abaddon> OttOmanTR: Have you tried using the safe mode to run sudo update-grub?
[23:22] <Sh1G3rU> wilee-nilee, ok i stoped
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, Anyway this is mint take it to their channel.
[23:23] <OttOmanTR> wilee-nilee: agree, I don't know linux well. I'm just wondering that why there is no tool like acronis for windows. No matter what you do to harddisk, acronis restores every damn thing
[23:24] <OttOmanTR> under linux there are tons of backup tools but none of them auto-restoring grub
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, You are used to a specific tool acronis which is a nice tool, however the linux tools are just as good you just have to understand their use.
[23:24] <bekks> OttOmanTR: Out there, there is no single application autorestoring your bootloader in case it detects it is broken.
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, auto restoring grub is meaningless, acronis does not save the mbr you have to reload it.
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, grub is in two places the OS and the boot loader is in the mbr.
[23:27] <OttOmanTR> wilee-nilee: acronis for windows does my be only for windows installed harddisks that doesn't have grub installed.
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> windows is the same but a different boot system
[23:27] <bekks> OttOmanTR: Acronis for Windows does not reinstall the Windows bootloader.
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> right there is no linux acronis
[23:28] <OttOmanTR> bekks: I'm using it now and I restored a low level formatted harddisk
[23:29] <bekks> OttOmanTR: I havent seen a low level fornatted disk for about a two decades now.
[23:29] <OttOmanTR> even it restores harddisk serial number, I have no idea how
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> and that means what exactly OttOmanTR
[23:30] <OttOmanTR> bekks: I mean deleted everyting, partitions, everything
[23:30] <bekks> OttOmanTR: And restoring the disk content like filesystems is different from restoring a broken bootloader. The first is what Acronis does, the second cannot be done or even detected by Acronis.
[23:31] <OttOmanTR> bekks: Again, I'm not familiar with linux like you do, just suggest me a good backup/restore tool
[23:31] <bunduru> oh my bad missed the "From a terminal change to user root and:" part
[23:31] <OttOmanTR> live CD is better
[23:31] <bekks> And a serial number (hw) of a disk cannot be restored by Acronis, Acronis only restores the filesystem UUID.
[23:31] <bunduru> sorry
[23:31] <bekks> !backup | OttOmanTR
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, If you are not understanding what we tell you, address that, rather than argue points that mean nothing, we know this stuff.
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> we would like to see you succeed
[23:34] <OttOmanTR> wilee-nilee: I have copy-protected commercial program. When you copy the program, the program stops. I copied that program's partition to a new harddisk. It worked but Windows warned me that there are two harddisk have the same serial number
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, All windows right?
[23:35] <OttOmanTR> yes
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, this is ubuntu support.
[23:36] <OttOmanTR> wilee-nilee: you don't have to be mean, I just answered to you answer
[23:36] <bekks> OttOmanTR: As I said, Acronis cant clone a hwardware serial number. And as wilee-nilee said, this is Ubuntu support.
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> OttOmanTR, That is way off topic, we have just been trying to help you understand the mbr and grub , the use of acronis and linux /backup/cloning.
[23:36] <abaddon> OttOmanTR: wilee-nilee is not being mean. This is Ubu support bro. Not windows support
[23:37] <pngl_> Can Ubuntu properly manage multiple batteries? On my laptop it shows them both, with the correct charge level, but sleeps as soon as the 1st one dies. I'm using 13.10 and a sony vaio pro 13 with an additional "sheet" battery.
[23:38] <bekks> pngl_: Ubuntu doesnt manage batteries at all. It is your charger which is responsible for doing so.
[23:38] <Boneheads1999> I need help
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, tell the chanel you problems.
[23:38] <abaddon> Boneheads1999: Sup?
[23:38] <Duel-Travis> Does utorrent work on Ubuntu?
[23:39] <pngl_> bekks: Not sure I understand. By charger you mean the power cord or some software?
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> !info utorrent
[23:39] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Ubu uses Transmission. But you can get Utorrent
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> !find utorrent
[23:39] <Boneheads1999> I'm trying to make an Ubuntu One account.  When I enter the verification code, it asks me to unlock the 'Default' keyring.  I have no idea what the password for that keyring is.
[23:39] <bekks> pngl_: The power supply and that bit of electronics responsible for detecting the battery and the charge level. Your battery has some electronics too, for the same reason.
[23:40] <Duel-Travis> well nvrm. Booting on windows
[23:40] <abaddon> Boneheads1999: Did you use your paswd?
[23:40] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, How can I get urottent?
[23:40] <Boneheads1999> abaddon yes I tried to but it said that was incorrect.
[23:40] <Sh1G3rU> Duel-Travis,  if you want a good client and utorrent like for ubuntu go for qbittorrent
[23:41] <abaddon> Google it, there is a version out there Duel-Travis
[23:41] <bekks> pngl_: And if the second battery is "dead", then there is no way to change that. It may even apply that your laptop is incapable of charging the second battery, while it is "alive" and just "empty".
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> Duel-Travis, technically not supported as a 3rd party, however. http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-install-utorrent-on-ubuntu-debian/
[23:41] <BrianH> Anyone do any IDS testing with pytbull?  I need some assistance in setting up a virt lab.
[23:41] <abaddon> Boneheads1999: Did you give root a diffrent passwd?
[23:41] <Duel-Travis> bittorrent client dl?
[23:41] <Sh1G3rU> Duel-Travis, it is in the repositories otherwise you have to go to the utorrent site and download their linux installer
[23:41] <Boneheads1999> abaddon not sure I understand
[23:42] <abaddon> Boneheads1999: I mean, did you set a seperate passwed for root and a different passwd for your user account?
[23:42] <Boneheads1999> abaddon oh.  Well I don't think I ever set a pswd for root..
[23:42] <pngl_> bekks: Sorry I wasn't accurate. Both batteries work well. Under Windows 8, everything is fine: when one battery goes empty, the other is used. Under Ubuntu, the information is accurately displayed, but when battery 1 is almost empty, Ubuntu tells me something like "Your battery is almost empty, going into sleep", and then does just that.
[23:43] <abaddon> Boneheads1999: Usually, to access root one uses ones user passwd. But if you set up root with a diff paswd you'ld use that
[23:43] <bekks> pngl_: Ah, so its just the power management of Ubuntu then.
[23:43] <pngl_> bekks: Yes. I'm open to any idea as to how to fix this.
[23:43] <Boneheads1999> abaddon yeah I just use my user passwd
[23:43] <Boneheads1999> abaddon for root
[23:43] <Duel-Travis> so
[23:43] <bekks> pngl_: I'm sorry, no.
[23:43] <Duel-Travis> would i get the 13.04? im on 13.10
[23:44] <abaddon> Boneheads1999: Hmmm...I'm outta ideas. you could type sudo passwd which will set a seperate passwd for root but I don't think/know if that'll work.
[23:44] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: You asking me?
[23:44] <iceroot> abaddon: Boneheads1999 please dont enable the root-account, its not needed and not supported, you can do everything with sudo command instead of switiching to the root-shell
[23:44] <Duel-Travis> yea?
[23:45] <fahadash> How do I update gcc compiler ?
[23:45] <Boneheads1999> iceroot ok
[23:45] <abaddon> iceroot: Boneheads1999 Which is why I said I didn't think it would work. Nor the best option
[23:46] <Sh1G3rU> Boneheads1999, just run this sudo su, then passwd
[23:46] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Ahh, OK, please in the future type my name or the users name. It helps us know who you are addressing your question to. As for the torrent client, why not try out a different cient?
[23:47] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Also, can you send me the link to check it out?
[23:47] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, i like utorrent?
[23:47] <bekks> Sh1G3rU: Dont run sudo su, since sudo passwd root is sufficient to set a root password and disqialify your from further support most likely.
[23:47] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, http://www.utorrent.com/downloads/linux
[23:47] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: XD OK, let me look at it
[23:48] <Duel-Travis> ok
[23:48] <Boneheads1999> Sh1G3rU abaddon iceroot ok, I tried doing both those things.  It asked me to change the UNIX passwd so I changed it to what my user passwd is.  Then when it asked me for the keyring again, I typed the passwd that I set the UNIX passwd to.  It still says incorrect unlock key.
[23:48] <iceroot> Sh1G3rU: sudo su is always wring, because its calling a root-shell with a pseydo root-shell (sudo)
[23:48] <Sh1G3rU> bekks you are right , but it works too so donw disqualify me
[23:48] <bekks> Boneheads1999: BEcause setting a root password is not even supposed to unlock your users keyring.
[23:49] <iceroot> Sh1G3rU: it does not matter if it works for that case
[23:49] <bekks> Sh1G3rU: It doesnt work for the problem offered.
[23:49] <unicornjedi> ##networking
[23:49] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: What's your sys version?
[23:49] <iceroot> Sh1G3rU: there are other cases were sudo su will fail and we dont want something like that in this channel
[23:49] <Duel-Travis> Ubuntu 13.10
[23:49] <Boneheads1999> bekks ok so do you know how to unlock my keyring?
[23:49] <Duel-Travis> and KDE
[23:49] <Sh1G3rU> bye bye everyone cu !!
[23:49] <iceroot> Sh1G3rU: sudo su is like cat foo | grep bar. it shows a lack of skill
[23:49] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: 64 or 32 bit?
[23:49] <bekks> Boneheads1999: http://askubuntu.com/questions/184266/what-is-unlock-keyring-and-how-do-i-get-rid-of-it
[23:50] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: I'd go with the 32 bit version.
[23:51] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: But, just for funsies, you should check out qBittorrent. It's a great client
[23:53] <Duel-Travis> better tan utorrent?
[23:54] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: You should compare the two to see.
[23:54] <Duel-Travis> What was it called?
[23:54] <Boneheads1999> bekks ok I started following those instructions.  I installed seahorse via terminal, but then when I press alt + f2, it tries running "Passwords & Keys" and then says it couldn't find it.
[23:54] <Duel-Travis> qBitTorrent?
[23:54] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: What does uTorrent have that you like s much?
[23:55] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, Just familiar with it
[23:55] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Yes, qBittorrent
[23:55] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, gettting it now
[23:56] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Well, it's good to get outta nyour comfrt zone at times,lol. Does uTorrent have a built in search?
[23:56] <Duel-Travis> no?
[23:56] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: qBittorrent has built in torrent searches
[23:57] <Duel-Travis> Okay
[23:57] <Duel-Travis> L)
[23:57] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: You can even add sites as you find them to its list
[23:57] <Boneheads1999> anyone?
[23:57] <reisio> Boneheads1999: hi
[23:58] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: it says to run "seahorse"
[23:58] <Boneheads1999> Ben64 oh
[23:58] <Boneheads1999> Ben64 ok
[23:58] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Anyway, the link you sent me seems fine. Just use the version number for your system, ie the 64 or 32 bit version. But consider trying qBittorrent too. I think you'll like it
[23:58] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, when i search i dont find anything?
[23:59] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: For qBittorrent?
[23:59] <Boneheads1999> holy crap I found it
[23:59] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: It can take a bit of mtime as it searches
[23:59] <Duel-Travis> abaddon,  yes


[21:08] <claell> This bug is pretty annoying and I would have expected Ubuntu to have some sort of quality assurance.
[21:08] <Jordan_U> lubuntuframes: I've seen it, but I don't know where to go from here.
[21:08] <Welastevil> mmmm
[21:09] <Welastevil> not possible
[21:09] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/X6Qh1YKk
[21:09] <Welastevil> look that output
[21:09] <\9> claell: community developed and quality assurance don't really go hand in hand
[21:09] <ducasse> claell: it's triaged, might just be considered low priority
[21:09] <lubuntuframes> (lol)
[21:09] <lubuntuframes> ok I'm on my own
[21:10] <\9> claell: ubuntu is open source, you can fix the problem yourself if you'd like. otherwise you'll have to wait until someone else does
[21:10] <claell> It is already fixed
[21:10] <claell> They just need to update glib2.0
[21:10] <claell> that is what annoys me.
[21:10] <ducasse> Welastevil: a bunch of ppas, some broken, _and_ -proposed? have fun with that.
[21:11] <Welastevil> mmm
[21:11] <\9> hmm
[21:11] <ducasse> claell: that is *not* a 'just'
[21:11] <Welastevil> ducasse
[21:11] <ducasse> claell: glib is pretty central.
[21:11] <Welastevil> can you help me with that?
[21:12] <claell> Yes, but I at least would have expected them to react to that. I don't even know, if they know that they have to update the package in order to fix the problem.
[21:12] <ducasse> Welastevil: try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[21:13] <Welastevil> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[21:13] <Welastevil> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[21:14] <Welastevil> now I used sudo
[21:15] <ducasse> claell: it is mentioned in both bug reports, so they should know.
[21:15] <Welastevil> take a look
[21:15] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/4C0Fi4rR
[21:16] <claell> I would have expected a reation to the new situation that I reported and an ETA or something. Since they did not react I assumed that they simply don't know. But maybe I am wrong.
[21:17] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/4C0Fi4rR
[21:18] <ducasse> Welastevil: try 'sudo dpkg -P cups-daemon'
[21:19] <Jordan_U> claell: Unfortunately there are a *lot* of bugs reported and not enough people willing to look through them, so you pretty much have to expect it to take a long time to react to non critical bug reports, if they are even fixed at all for a given release :(
[21:19] <Welastevil> dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of cups-daemon:
[21:19] <Welastevil>  cups-core-drivers depends on cups-daemon (>= 2.1.3-4ubuntu0.1).
[21:19] <Welastevil>  cups depends on cups-daemon (>= 2.1.3-4ubuntu0.1); however:
[21:19] <Welastevil>   Package cups-daemon is to be removed.
[21:19] <Welastevil> yYY
[21:20] <ducasse> claell: the priority on the first one is 'low'
[21:20] <Welastevil> sorry...but just 3 lines to pastbin
[21:21] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/b9iGg9cn
[21:21] <Welastevil> what ever
[21:21] <kostkon> Welastevil, anything you'll do from this point on is probably going to be destructive. You may want to disable one or two ppas first to clear up the dependency mess a bit if at all possible
[21:21] <claell> It is not critical, but it appears for all users and it makes Ubuntu pretty unuseable for normal people.
[21:21] <ducasse> Welastevil: try 'sudo systemctl stop cups.service' then 'sudo apt-get install -f' again
[21:21] <kostkon> Welastevil, another option is ppapurge but that will remove everything you have installed from those ppas
[21:22] <Trioxin> how do I use f2fs encryption? I can't find anything on it except that it exists
[21:24] <ducasse> claell: a lot of people think that about their favorite bug, but it's just not true.
[21:25] <claell> Unuseable might be exeggerated, but I would expect from an OS that the trash function works.
[21:25] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/b9iGg9cn
[21:26] <Welastevil> cups-daemon
[21:27] <xangua> Welastevil: why are you trying to remove cups?
[21:28] <Welastevil> im not
[21:29] <ducasse> Welastevil: what does 'sudo apt-get install -f' say?
[21:31] <Welastevil> its ok ducasse
[21:31] <Welastevil> it worked now
[21:31] <Welastevil> look
[21:32] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/6dq1hPfV
[21:34] <ducasse> Welastevil: that looks good, unless there was an error later, you only posted part of the output. if it worked, you can install updates now.
[21:34] <Welastevil> thanks ducasse!
[21:34] <ducasse> Welastevil: but do a 'sudo apt-get autoremove', clean up your ppas, and probably disable proposed.
[21:35] <Welastevil> done!!!
[21:37] <goodGuy2> hello
[21:38] <ducasse> Welastevil: ok, good. you should absolutely not use proposed unless you have a good reason - it is intended for advanced users to help with testing.
[21:40] <Welastevil> ok
[21:40] <Welastevil> thanks!
[21:41] <quikstrike> Seem to be having some issues when I try to connect via SSH to any other remote SSH server. Everything was working a few days ago and I was able to connect via SSH fine, but now when I attempt to connect to any SSH server the connection just hangs. ufw has been disabled, there are no iptables rules blocking SSH, and I have connected from other VPS servers on my network out to various outside SSH servers. Anyone have any additional
[21:41] <JohnMcClain> http://pastebin.com/Rcj05sGw I'm getting an error when trying to use imagemagick to write a file. The folder is owned by www-data. Should it be owned by someone else if imagemagick is the one writing?
[21:43] <john_s> Jordan_U: I just rebooted into 16.04 Kubuntu live dvd and same issue thus far.
[21:43] <ducasse> john_s: does /images/42753667c08888b5dc6481ab279a5206.png exist?
[21:43] <JohnMcClain> ducasse: It does not. 'convert' should create it.
[21:43] <JohnMcClain> perhaps I'm not writing in the directory appropriately.
[21:44] <JohnMcClain> I'm in 'home'. I want to write it in 'home/images'
[21:44] <JohnMcClain> is convert -trim -density 200 test.pdf -quality 600 /images/42753667c08888b5dc6481ab279a5206.png now the correct way to call it out?
[21:45] <JohnMcClain> convert test.pdf /images/test.png
[21:45] <JohnMcClain> Would that be correct?
[21:45] <ducasse> JohnMcClain: ah, no, use /home/images/whatever.png
[21:45] <JohnMcClain> ducasse: That works. So I should always use an absolute path?
[21:46] <jurislav> if I wanted a general networking best-practise advise, which channel i should go to..? :/
[21:46] <bekks> jurislav: ##networking
[21:47] <ducasse> JohnMcClain: yes, well - a leading '/' means the path is absolute.
[21:47] <john_s> christ how do I install wine32 or wine32-develop from the live dvd .... :(.
[21:48] <jurislav> bekks: thx!
[21:48] <Thinkey> ver irc.rizon.net
[21:50] <OerHeks> john_s, you need internet for that, wine-development
[21:50] <john_s> OerHeks: playonlinux is in multiverse it is not in the sources by default.... not sure about wine32-development at this point.
[21:53] <OerHeks> john_s, so ? enable multiverse in your sources?
[21:53] <OerHeks> and enable networking
[21:53] <john_s> that fixed it for playonlinux but not for wine32-development and it is a bit annoying that the Discover app (on KDE) doesn't do that (allow that).
[21:56] <OerHeks> abmares2, please no PM, thanks
[21:56] <OerHeks> !pm
[21:57] <john_s> Oh boy now I cannot execute /home/kubuntu/.PlayOnLinux/wine/linux-x86/1.9.23-staging/bin/wine because of probably a missing library and ldd says it is not dynamically linked....
[21:57] <bekks> john_s: Whats its output?
[21:58] <john_s> forgot to install libc6-i386
[21:58] <OerHeks> john don't do this from live iso, you'll need more than that, restricted extras and such
[21:59] <john_s> restricted extras no less
[22:00] <john_s> restricted and extras didn' t do it :p
[22:03] <JohnMcClain> http://i.imgur.com/9Yu6Lbx.png . On the right is what runs in php's exec(). On the left is the permissions of /var/www/html/images/. If I copy/paste the command into terminal, it successfully creates the image. What might I be missing?
[22:03] <john_s> how the hell do I install 32 bit wine on live dvd.... :(.
[22:04] <OerHeks> john_s, without internet? not
[22:06] <ducasse> JohnMcClain: set g+w on images dir
[22:07] <john_s> I am talking to you aren' t i.
[22:07] <john_s> OerHeks: Me Supposes That Works Through the Internet :p.
[22:08] <john_s> I have now replaced my /etc/apt on the liveDVD with that of my main system and I still cannot install wine32-development
[22:08] <JohnMcClain> ducasse: I feel silly.
[22:08] <john_s> oh i know.
[22:08] <JohnMcClain> ducasse: You're awesome. Thanks a lot for today.
[22:08] <ducasse> JohnMcClain: no problem, glad it works now :)
[22:09] <john_s> nope
[22:11] <john_s> why on earth won' t the thing list 32 bit packages .... :(.
[22:12] <john_s> the pain is too big.
[22:12] <Jordan_U> john_s: What is the output of "glxinfo" from the liveUSB?
[22:12] <john_s> Jordan_U: same
[22:12] <Bashing-om> john_s: ' apt show <package> see what repo the package is in .. and make sure that repo is enabled in your sources ?
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> john_s  maybe it's a question for #winehq
[22:12] <john_s> yes but right now I was just trying to install 32 bit wine on the live DVD and not succeeding.
[22:13] <ducasse> john_s: is i386 enabled on the live image by default? might be different from a full install.
[22:13] <john_s> I mean.... next mountain to climb that is bigger than the mt .everest.
[22:13] <john_s> yes
[22:13] <john_s> it is
[22:13] <john_s> at least --print-foreign-architectures shows it
[22:14] <Jordan_U> john_s: I wouldn't recommend worrying about any problem other than getting nouveau to actually work until you have solved that problem.
[22:14] <john_s> well fine but I just wanted to reproduce the same error for the same game.
[22:14] <john_s> you know, cover all bases.
[22:14] <john_s> mostly I wanted to get 32 bit libraries installed in case it influenced glxinfo
[22:15] <Jordan_U> john_s: What is the output of "lspci | grep VGA"?
[22:15] <DBU> it used to configure your video i belive
[22:15] <john_s> booting from live dvd with exact same /etc/apt/ directory as my main install and I cannot get any wine32* to be listed.
[22:16] <john_s> 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 950] (rev a1)
[22:16] <Jordan_U> john_s: If nouveau isn't being used for 64 bit glxinfo, there is no reason to believe that it would be used for 32 bit processes.
[22:16] <john_s> ok sure but I just wanted to get the same system up.
[22:16] <john_s> why can' t I install 32-bit Wine now all of  a sudden?
[22:17] <john_s> how do I get apt to load i386?
[22:20] <dajomu> Anyone using digikam here?
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> dajomu  that's a yes/no question, better ask your real question
[22:20] <elGALLO_> installed ubuntu server no gui, previously got VNC and mac to read files via finder using http://askubuntu.com/questions/463486/can-no-longer-use-screen-share-to-connect-mac-to-ubuntu-since-upgrading-to-14-04
[22:21] <elGALLO_> any suggestions on how to be able to use mac Finder  to cnnect to Ubuntu server? entered as registered user but get a shaking window so no log or error to share
[22:22] <dajomu> Okey then, I am running digikam 5.3 on Ubuntu 16.10 and I have my photos stored on a NAS. I have a problem with deleting photos using digikam. I have no problem deleting using the file brower? Anyone have any idea why I cannot delete photos?
[22:23] <Jordan_U> john_s: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1042258.html?sid=ee07cfb96b5b0bd079c1afee0e856f79 suggests that support for this card in upstream nouveau was only added very recently.
[22:24] <john_s> oh
[22:24] <john_s> haha
[22:24] <john_s> well see I wanted to compile nouveau didn't I ? :(((( I could have been done ages ago.
[22:24] <john_s> anyway
[22:25] <john_s> success I needed to add [arch=amd64,i386] to every deb line
[22:25] <Doglman> Hello. I'm dual booting Ubuntu 16.04 and am struggling to get my system to boot normally. I can start it using recovery mode but if I try and boot normally the grub prompt window for my SDA5 encryption won't let me type
[22:25] <Guest40123> hey 4 all
[22:25] <Guest40123> i need some help how to use zentyal
[22:26] <ducasse> john_s: a mainline kernel will give you a newer nouveau module, the x module is a very different story.
[22:27] <john_s> current is 4.4.0 for me....
[22:27] <john_s> erm...
[22:27] <ducasse> !mainline | john_s
[22:27] <blacknred0> Guest40123: you can join the #zentyal channel for that
[22:27] <Jordan_U> john_s: Using https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers *might* get you a new enough nouveau, but I can't oconfirm that yet.
[22:28] <john_s> what about edgers?
[22:29] <john_s> but I never said I just wanted to compile the library... I would have ventured across both.
[22:32] <jon5000> hello I am hoping someone can help:  Installed 16.04 on a yoga 13 laptop.  Touchscreen is not being recognized.  Previous installs on this computer recognized it and it worked beautifully.  When i typed xinput, the touchscreen was listed as ELAN.  Now with this installation it does not show up in the list at all
[22:33] <john_s> Jordan_U: do you think I only need the nouveau.ko (+ kernel) or also the nouveau library/driver?
[22:33] <Jordan_U> john_s: I don't know.
[22:34] <john_s> anyway I can't install kernels on live sessions so I am heading back to main machine.
[22:46] <Sven_vB> what's a good tool to mirror a Debian package repo partially, only some architectures and only some components for each?
[22:50] <ducasse> Sven_vB: debmirror? don't know if it can do both those things, though.
[22:50] <Sven_vB> ducasse, thy, i'll have a look
[22:51] <yeats> Sven_vB: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror
[22:51] <Sven_vB> channel log readers: apt describes it as "This program downloads and maintains a partial local Debian mirror. It can mirror any combination of architectures, distributions and sections."
[22:51] <Sven_vB> so it probably can do my filters. :)
[22:52] <Sven_vB> would be cool if I could get it to use git-annex for storing the blobs by their sha1
[22:53] <ducasse> Sven_vB: implement it and send a patch! :)
[22:54] <Sven_vB> ducasse, I prefer pull requests :)
[22:54] <john_s> remind me not to do heavy disk operation with a non-thin snapshot loaded on the same disk.
[22:55] <Jordan_U> john_s: Looks like you will need linux 4.6 or newer and mesa 11.2 or newer, again from https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1042258.html?sid=ee07cfb96b5b0bd079c1afee0e856f79 .
[22:59] <john_s> Jordan_U: all of the mesa I can find is 11.2 or higher, but there is a bunch I installed from edgers and didn't downgrade yet.
[23:01] <john_s> Jordan_U: basically all except one mesa package is 13.0.1
[23:02] <john_s> btw, the nouveau DRM package is already installed i386 and amd64
[23:03] <Guest50854> ciao
[23:04] <john_s> which would explain the interfacing towards the kernel driver
[23:05] <john_s> however I still don't have a 32-bit nouveau driver (library, module) for xorg.
[23:06] <john_s> maybe that's not needed...
[23:18] <jon5000> hello I am hoping someone can help:  Installed 16.04 on a yoga 13 laptop.  Touchscreen is not being recognized.  Previous installs on this computer recognized it and it worked beautifully.  When i typed xinput, the touchscreen was listed as ELAN.  Now with this installation it does not show up in the list at all
[23:21] <ducasse> jon5000: as you have tried here several times without reply, maybe try ##linux? if that doesn't help, try here on a weekday, it's usually quiet on weekends.
[23:24] <krad_> does anyone here use apitol one?
[23:26] <Guest50854> ciao
[23:26] <Guest50854> !list
[23:27] <xx1xx> how do I enable/disable services listed in /etc/init.d (without outright deleting them)?
[23:28] <akik> xx1xx: update-rc.d
[23:28] <xx1xx> I want the option to have them begin on startup in the future, but for now I do not want them starting on bootup
[23:28] <xx1xx> thanks akik I'll give that a try
[23:33] <finishingmove> I upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04, using the built-in updater. Now, on every startup, I see that my USB mouse and keyboard are not as responsive (mouse doesn't show or move until I click at least once, and keyboard doesn't start typing immediately, and even after that sometimes "eats" a keypress like Enter). I also hear a weird crackling sound at the login screen, and a notification appears in the top right corner showing that the audio
[23:33] <finishingmove> is muted (although I can perfectly hear the login drum sound). My setup is Laptop + HDMI monitor + USB keyboard + USB mouse + combo jack headphones/microphone.
[23:34] <finishingmove> Did anyone experience a similar problem perhaps?
[23:34] <St0ner1995> no, cant say i have. thats a strange issue
[23:34] <Phanes> hey isn't there a metapackage for developer tool systems, like make, gcc et al
[23:35] <ducasse> Phanes: build-essential
[23:36] <Phanes> ducasse, thanks
[23:53] <jon5000> ducasse, thx
[23:58] <JohnMcClain> ducasse is on point today.


[07:07] <johnc4510> beuno: i'm off to bed, but that is something LOL
[07:07] <beuno> johnc4510, it made me smirk for a while, sleep well  :D
[07:07] <johnc4510> ty
[07:07] <johnc4510> lol
[10:42] <juliux> morning


[05:31] <linuxburn> hello this working?
[05:32] <linuxburn> I am having trouble installing Kubuntu next to Windows
[05:32] <linuxburn> Can you not dual-boot kubuntu with a single drive?
[05:37] <linuxburn> ...hello?
[05:47] <linuxburn> am I even connected...
 yes, you can dualboot while having Windows and Kubuntu on the same drive. Just install the Windows first, shring its partition so the Kubuntu can fit next to it on the drive. And than install Kubuntu into the unallocated space on that same drive. (re @IrcsomeBot: <linuxburn> Can you not dual-boot kubuntu with a single drive?)
 Pixel they are long gone
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[17:05] <user|14> Hey people
[17:05] <user|14> Kubuntu or Kde Neon?
[17:06] <Maik> user|14: we do not discuss that matter here since the channel is only for Kubuntu support
[17:07] <Maik> either ask in the offtopic channel or #linux
[17:07] <cbreak> user|14: kubuntu works ok.
[17:07] <user|14> Okay, LTS or latest? I need absolutely minimum bugs, I will use it for studying computer science and programming etc.
[17:07] <Maik> user|14: LTS
[17:07] <user|14> Is the app store in kubuntu snap only?
[17:07] <cbreak> I'd recommend 22.04 if you have time to wait that long
[17:07] <Maik> user|14: no
[17:07] <cbreak> "Discover" can download apt stuff too.
[17:08] <cbreak> and you can use CLI apt as well
[17:08] <user|14> Are any snaps installed by default in kubuntu?
[17:08] <Maik> cbreak: he could install 20.04.4 and upgrade later to 22.04
[17:08] <cbreak> Maik: possible.
[17:08] <user|14> No worries, I am downloading the current LTS version
[17:08] <Maik> user|14: on 20.04.4 there are no snaps
[17:08] <user|14> Oh, thank god!
[17:09] <Maik> on 22.04 however there will be
[17:09] <cbreak> I think the ubuntu people had the dumb plan to switch firefox to snap :(
[17:09] <Maik> Firefox
[17:09] <user|14> Ah shoot
[17:09] <Maik> cbreak: that was mozilla's call
[17:09] <cbreak> snaps work nicely for some things in my experience
[17:09] <cbreak> but I don't want to use it for FF unless I have to :(
[17:09] <user|14> They work nice for developers, not for users
[17:09] <cbreak> Maik: too bad :(
[17:10] <cbreak> I use lxd via snap, works fine
[17:10] <cbreak> and slack, also works ok
[17:10] <Maik> i don't really care, Firefox snap works ok :)
[17:10] <user|14> I care, as my ssd space is around 120 gb free rn with windows
[17:10] <user|14> I need to partition some space
[17:10] <cbreak> as long as it's possible to use addons, to open files in the file system, and to disable that worthless tab bar, and enable the menu bar, I'm fine
[17:11] <cbreak> user|14: you can not use a separate SSD for it?
[17:11] <user|14> How much should I allocate to the linux parition if I need some space in windows to make sure it works fine, although I do not need any more software in windows
[17:11] <user|14> No, not in my budget
[17:11] <Maik> ssd's are cheap these days
[17:11] <user|14> Although I have a 1TB internal hdd too, on which i store passive files.
[17:12] <cbreak> my ubuntu system dataset takes up 43 GB. But I installed a ton of software. (This doesn't include storage used by lxd or docker)
[17:13] <user|14> Will 70GBs be fine for kubuntu? For development related stuff mainly and ebooks etc?
[17:13] <user|14> Or should I do 80GBs
[17:13] <cbreak> ebooks take no space at all...
[17:13] <user|14> ?
[17:13] <Maik> even 60GB should do
[17:13] <cbreak> development: depends on what you develop
[17:13] <cbreak> unreal engine stuff can take dozens of GB alone for the engines and media
[17:13] <user|14> Maybe I will develop .NET apps
[17:14] <user|14> No , I will not develop games
[17:14] <user|14> for noe
[17:14] <user|14> now
[17:14] <user|14> Webapps and desktop apps
[17:14] <user|14> Flask, React, .NET etc.
[22:55] <m> hello
[22:55] <m> how konversation works ?
[22:59] <tomreyn> not like this