[05:43] <deryl> or you chuck it on the barbeque :)
[05:43] <izinucs> you gotta burn the hair off somehow before you eat it :)
[05:44] <Mathuin> deryl: nah, she's never been that bad a cat.
[05:44]  * sweetpi uses telepathy and suggests juk edit master.cf
[05:44] <deryl> mathuin ~ hehe
[05:44] <deryl> i like izinucs's idea better ;0
[05:44] <Procule> rifter, about the iowait, can it be filesystem related ?
[05:44] <Y_Ichiro> wow, the best thing in 10.10 so far, gcc actually came with default
[05:45] <rifter> Mathuin, they are supposed to hate citrus stuff too and there is cat repellant but both have mixed results
[05:45] <orlok> crimsun: cheers.. gotta patch and recompile expect of all things :-\
[05:45] <Y_Ichiro> you used to have to install gentoo if you want gcc to come with the distribution by default
[05:45] <crimsun> orlok: why do you need to recompile expect in 10.10?
[05:45] <orlok> crimsun: its causing a cisco config utility to hang due to blocking IO
[05:46] <rifter> Procule, well itcan but if you are having high nFLT then it is usually swap..  check ram usage to see if it is bad.. these days browsers seem to use ridiculous amounts of ram at least firefox chromium and chrome do for me
[05:46] <Mathuin> rifter: the approach that's working lately is to pay attention to her when she acts up.  I guess it's like having kids.
[05:46] <deryl> Anyone have an issue in KDE under 10.10 where the clipboard icon disappears completely but the space it normally occupies is still there? Put your mouse over the blank spot and knotes shows its popup
[05:46] <crimsun> orlok: hmm, presuming a patch is available, please file a bug so we can fix that.
[05:46] <deryl> but the icon never appears
[05:46] <Mathuin> Wow, out of the box Flash works on 64-bit and on netbook.  Nice.
[05:47] <rifter> Mathuin, it is indeed.  I have a cat that acts up to get attention.. I am trying to train him that this is not how to get what he wants because I have a theory on that.. seems to be making progress but he still does it
[05:47] <frankbro> For a partition different for / and /home, how big should the / be ? And will the .firefox and all follow on the 10.10 ?
[05:47] <orlok> crimsun: http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid , and the patch creators describe is as a nasty hack
[05:47] <deryl> rifter ~ cats are picky. they take time to train
[05:47] <rifter> deryl, yep
[05:47] <deryl> my aunt raises pedigree burmese. pita to teach them anything
[05:47] <orlok> you guys, you are not training the cat, the cats training you
[05:47] <orlok> so just relax and get used to it
[05:47] <peepsalot> is there a list of the major changes in the latest Ubuntu update?
[05:47] <deryl> orlok ~ hehe now THAT i believe
[05:47] <izinucs> frankbro: / between 8 & 12 gigs... the rest for /home
[05:47] <rifter> frankbro, well /home you want as big as the files you wanna store there.
[05:47] <rymo> installer hung at "Who are you?" screen, message "Ready when you are" but Forward button greyed out (all fields filled in properly) - what gives?
[05:47] <Mathuin> peepsalot: search the web for 'maverick release notes'.
[05:48] <deryl> my $HOME is 80GB
[05:48] <deryl> well /home is
[05:48] <rifter> frankbro, otehrwise what iznucs said
[05:48] <rifter> deryl, mine is more like 800 GB :D
[05:48] <Mathuin> I've got about 7G for /, 1G for swap, and 30G for /home -- but I have two SSDs, one 8G and one 30G, so YMMV.
[05:48] <frankbro> and lets say I have a firefox profile in .firefox, will the firefox in the new install take it in consideration ? And use the bookmark/addons I had ?
[05:48] <deryl> rifter ~ i've only a 250GB 5400RPM drive. split evenly between windows (ok so i still like to game), and ubuntu
[05:48] <rymo> (this is 10.10 32-bit on a Asus 1201n netbook)
[05:49] <rifter> frankbro, what I do is set the normal system partitoons then give home the rest.  you may want a seperate var but if you do make it big cause4 ubuntu puts downloaded packages there
[05:49] <izinucs> frankbro: you can try.. some add ons to FF might not work..
[05:49] <deryl> yeah /var/cache/apt/archives can get HIGE
[05:49] <deryl> err HUGE. my last size check was 12GB
[05:49] <rifter> deryl, yeah .. I am having good luck with wine but some games still work better with windows.. for instance punkbuster stuff :P
[05:49] <deryl> then again I don't run apt-get autoclean often
[05:50] <Muscovy> Has anyone had issues with keyboards working in Virtualbox?
[05:50] <deryl> rifter ~ yeah. I don't like wine when I have a legal and working copy of Windows 7 as well. (This laptop is still under warranty). so I just split the drive.
[05:50] <juk> where do I change mailbox dir in postfix?
[05:50] <Mathuin> deryl: I only run apt-get autoclean when it tells me to.
[05:50] <deryl> rifter ~ when I get bug eyed from ruby and rails, i reboot to windows and take it out on someone's ass :)
[05:50] <rifter> deryl, me neither.. my var is 10GB but on anotehr machine I had to symlink that directory to somewhere bigger
[05:50] <izinucs> Muscovy: nope
[05:50] <ntosme2> I have a laptop with a bad cmos battery that loses the system time regularly...what can I do to remove the filesystem check for a previous mount time in the future?
[05:51] <Lancelot> crimsun: actually it isn't the speakers popping, it's literally a loud buzz
[05:51] <IdleOne> !language | deryl
[05:51] <rymo> anybody else had issues installing 10.10 release on a netbook?
[05:51] <Lancelot> crimsun: is it being caused by this?
[05:51] <Mathuin> rymo: the only issues I had were due to a faulty USB stick.
[05:51] <deryl> idleone ~ sorry. I'm a grunt. i tend to forget and swear. my apologies
[05:51] <totic> I am having problems with my wifi after updating to 10.02, I already have it to the point that there is no "soft-block" nor hard-block
[05:51] <juk_> fqdn
[05:51] <rymo> Mathuin: what sort of issues did you enounter with that?
[05:51] <totic> I brough ifconfig down and up
[05:51] <Muscovy> izinucs: I'll chalk it down to bad luck, it worked after a reboot of the VM.
[05:51] <Lancelot> !wine
[05:51] <rifter> deryl, thank you for your service  then
[05:52] <totic> but it still says wifi disabled
[05:52] <totic> any help pretty please
[05:52] <deryl> rifter ~ ehh, its my job. just like some folks are mechanics, others florists. I'm a soldier. it's what i do.
[05:52] <Mathuin> rymo: "errno 5" while copying files to the netbook.
[05:52] <deryl> rifter ~ but.. you're welcome
[05:52] <rifter> totic, madwifi is the system we use for wifi so you may get some help looking in that direction..
[05:53] <deryl> hrmm thats weird. my clipboard icon returned out of the blue
[05:53] <RudyValencia> Why is my NetworkManager icon missing?
[05:53] <deryl> hehe been gone for hours and then just suddenly decided to reappear.
[05:54] <deryl> rifter ~ you gimme back my icon? ;)
[05:54] <RudyValencia> Maybe I should reboot
[05:54] <rymo> it seems like the installer is just buggy.  did they rush this thing out today or what?
[05:54] <rommy03> Hi. I'm trying to find a way to implement the -K flag for pure-ftpd but I don't see what it would be in the config file (to make the file name..)
[05:54] <uLinux> rymo: keyboard layoutbug
[05:54] <spiniker> hello
[05:54] <khussein> Is there a much performant way to split and assemble files besides using split and cat?
[05:54] <rymo> uLinux: can I pick a different layout or plug in an external keyboard to get around this?
[05:55] <Mathuin> khussein: I imagine you could do that with a one-line Perl script.
[05:55] <rifter> deryl, maybe it was taking awhile to load? I missed your initial question on that
[05:55] <deryl> rymo ~ so long as you have debsigs-verify and blcr-dkms uninstalled it should work just fine. I had no issues other than man-db, ure, postgresql-common, and sun-jdk packages failing. but those were easy to fix
[05:55] <totic> @rifter thanks, but what do you mean by "madwifi"?
[05:55] <Jordan_U> rymo: How much RAM do you have?
[05:55] <khussein> Mathuin: would you mind sharing that with me? And is it faster?
[05:55] <uLinux> rymo: i dunno i just said there is abug when selection keyboard layout
[05:55] <rifter> totic, madwifi is a package that includes the wifi drivers and tools for managing wifi
[05:55] <deryl> rifter ~ oh. it disappeared on me, left the blank spot like a spacer but the same color as the bacground of the taskbar. put the mouse over the spot and the clipboard popup would show but the main icon was gone
[05:55] <rifter> totic, those commands can help you troubleshoot
[05:56] <Mathuin> khussein: I don't have it on hand, but it can be written.  I suspect it will probably be at least as fast.
[05:56] <spiniker> cant get my audio to work.i tried system testing to no avail..
[05:56] <juk> how do I make irssi show here my fqdn instead of ip?
[05:56] <rifter> Mathuin, well wouldn't the perl script depend on the type of file?  like it would be better with text
[05:56] <deryl> rifter ~ then just now out of the blue 9oh i'd say 45 minutes later) it showed back up. weird stuff
[05:56] <Mathuin> rifter: sure, but if he's using split he's using text I'm thinking.
[05:57] <rifter> deryl, yeah I run into that with apps in the notification area from time to time
[05:57] <khussein> No, it is binary.
[05:57] <rifter> Mathuin, ah
[05:57] <khussein> You can use split with binary files too.
[05:57] <totic> @rifter so nothing is block the card, the drivers are "fine" but still no wifi
[05:57] <deryl> rifter ~ yeah. not sure what the issue is, but i've a far bigger issue to rigure out that I just have no clue wth to do anything about
[05:57] <rifter> khussein, well it may be trickier but I think perl might do that too
[05:58] <khussein> rifter: Mathuin Thanks guys.
[05:58] <Mathuin> khussein: I've never used split with binary files.  Nice to know.
[05:58] <Jordan_U> khussein: With the exception of features in btrfs, which if you're using you probably wouldn't need to split files anyway, I don't think there's any way to improve on split and cat.
[05:58] <deryl> rifter ~ i have an ati radeon card in this laptop. for some reason kdm doesn't completely reset X when you log out and it corrupts my video. works perfect under gdm, just not kdm. did it under 10.04 too
[05:59] <Silivrenion> is there an easy way to batch convert a lot of .pdf's to jpg's using free software?
[05:59] <rommy03> found it ...  I'm slightly north by northwest from TO :)
[06:00] <deryl> Saugeen Shores
[06:00] <spvensko_> rymo, if you ask nicely they may refund the money you paid for Ubuntu
[06:00] <rymo> ha! yes, give me my $0 back! :)
[06:00] <khussein> Jordan_U: No, I am not using btrfs. I guess split and cat it is :).
[06:01] <Eventus> any help?
[06:01] <rymo> I feel bad because I finally got my friend to try Ubuntu and this has been his welcome to it :/  frustrated.
[06:01] <rymo> Jordan_U: i'll try that integrity check (yn)
[06:01] <SeymourBewty> Hello
[06:01] <deryl> rifter ~ but to add to the mix.. I'm using the fglrx kernel module for the ati cards. I'm getting a sneaking suspicion that what happens is gdm FULLY resets the X server as in completely kills itself and X and then restarts itself so it fully resets the card. I'm thinking kdm doesn't
[06:01] <spvensko_> rymo, i feel you... that can also be true with Windows though.... I had a mouse driver installation crash within 30 minutes of installing Windows 7 once
[06:02] <XaeroX> Guys, how do i install Ubuntu Netbook Remix on a flash drive?
[06:02] <deryl> rifter ~ i can't prove it beyond the differences in how gdm and kdm reset, but thats my suspicion from watching the screen and how the system reacts
[06:02] <rymo> spvensko_: wait, you let a friend try Windows 7? ;)
[06:02] <Mathuin> XaeroX: if you have Ubuntu at all, use Startup Disk Creator to install the ISO on the flash drive, then boot on it.
[06:02] <jschall> for some reason when i installed ubuntu from the disc, my desktop stopped POSTing (couldn't even get into bios). I narrowed it down to the disk that GRUB was installed to, and unplugged it. I got into the bios, and switched hard drives from AHCI to IDE, and then the system booted completely. What can I do to make it work with AHCI again?
[06:02] <spvensko_> rymo, gotta play my videogames somehow :)
[06:03] <SeymourBewty> I was wondering if I could get some newbie help with an audio issue in Ubuntu 10.10 please?
[06:03] <Eventus> Error: No such device
[06:03] <XaeroX> Mathuin but every time i boot from the flash drive i have right now, it starts a new session
[06:03] <Mathuin> XaeroX:  so do you wish to install UNE *from* that flash drive, or run it off that flash drive?
[06:03] <XaeroX> I want to install UNE to run off the flash drive
[06:03] <totic> @rifter any other pointer would be appreciated, everything says it should be working
[06:04] <spvensko_> SeymourBewty, ask your question, don't ask to ask :)
[06:04] <totic> @rifter tell me what I should copy to pastbin and I will
[06:04] <rymo> Jordan_U: where is the integrity check on 10.10? I don't see the familiar black screen with the options, just the new graphical thing
[06:04] <Mathuin> XaeroX: so use the Startup Disk Creator, make sure you have space to save documents, and that should work.  What do you mean by 'start a new session'?
[06:05] <rymo> ah, F12
[06:05] <XaeroX> Mathuin: It erases all prev settings. Like, booting from live
[06:05] <SeymourBewty> I have a CM6501 onboard audio hooked up via Digital optical, and a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.10.  I'm not getting any sound at the moment. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
[06:05] <Eventus> How do I fix "Error: No such device" on boot?
[06:05] <XaeroX> Mathuin i have a 1GB Flash drive, would it work?
[06:05] <Jordan_U> rymo: During the first 5 seconds of boot you should see a a screen like this: http://jordanu.dyndns.org/tmp/Screenshot-1.png Press any key while that screen is up to get the menu.
[06:06] <Mathuin> XaeroX: yes, it should.
[06:06] <Jordan_U> Eventus: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[06:06] <Eventus> yes
[06:06] <rymo> Jordan_U: got to the screen, but no option for Integrity, only test memory.  this is on a usb stick if it matters...
[06:06] <XaeroX> Mathuin so how do i do that from Windows?
[06:06] <astracepot> test
[06:06] <Mathuin> XaeroX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick has WIndows instructions.
[06:06] <Jordan_U> Eventus: Try changing the boot order so you're booting from the other drive. It's likely that the failing grub is actually from a previous install.
[06:06] <XaeroX> astracepot test reply: Success
[06:07] <Eventus> @Jordan_U: I've tried that already. Same problem
[06:08] <astracepot> hello all
[06:08] <XaeroX> oh Mathuin i tried that utility, i had no success
[06:08] <osubuck> the new ubuntu is great :) works without a problem
[06:08] <astracepot> yup its true bro
[06:08] <Jordan_U> Eventus: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt ?
[06:08] <Mathuin> XaeroX: bummer.  I don't have a Windows box here to test it. :-(
[06:09] <deryl> ok, 1am, time to make some bacon and eggs and coffee and start working on this app
[06:09] <rymo> I guess there is no Integrity Check option for USB install?
[06:09] <totic> @rifter "nm-tool" says now that the network card is sleeping
[06:09] <XaeroX> Mathuin any other way to do that?
[06:09] <SeymourBewty> I really like the way it looks, and it seemed to find drivers for everything except for my onboard audio.
[06:09] <deryl> i must be blind cause i don't see rifter saying a thing anymore
[06:09] <Jordan_U> rymo: It seems that way unfortunately.
[06:09] <Lancelot> upgrade question, I have karmic, and I'm trying to upgrade to maverick. It's making me get lucid first though
[06:09] <Lancelot> why is this?
[06:10] <deryl> lancelot ~ because the system is designed that way
[06:10] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Lancelot
[06:10] <deryl> lancelot ~ the ubuntu site SPECIFICALLY tells you to upgrade through major revisions
[06:10] <PryMaL> Lancelot: system designed to do step by step upgrades
[06:10] <Lancelot> ah
[06:10] <Lancelot> I see that now
[06:10] <Lancelot> the page wasn't loading properly for me when I looked
[06:10] <rymo> Jordan_U: thanks for your help!  I'm going to get an external drive and try a CD.
[06:10] <Lancelot> which is why I cane here :/
[06:11] <Lancelot> too bad I have to go get tetravex again though D:
[06:11] <Jordan_U> rymo: You might want to try the alternate install CD also.
[06:11] <Jordan_U> !alternate | rymo
[06:11] <Lancelot> thanks
[06:11] <rymo> thanks again!
[06:11] <Jordan_U> rymo: You're welcome.
[06:11] <Mathuin> Dinner.
[06:12] <Eventus> @Jordan_U: I ran it. How do I give you the results other than just pasting the whole thing in here?
[06:12] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Eventus
[06:12] <hp6735s> lol
[06:12] <SeymourBewty> I'm having trouble getting audio from my onboard C-media CM6501 audio in Ubuntu 10.10.  Does anyone have any experience with this?
[06:12] <deryl> wow this channel is far far far more busy than ours on efnet
[06:12] <deryl> sheesh
[06:13] <deryl> can barely keep up with the chatter!
[06:13] <totic> @rifter got it working… had to set it in sleep mode and bring it back up
[06:13] <benjio> Anyone see a problem where a laptop synaptics touchpad shows up as a generic ps/2 wheel mouse? It's here and there on the forums but no fix to be found :/
[06:13] <deryl> hrmm ok now why the hell does the taskbar keep dying and resetting itself
[06:14] <Eventus> Jordan_U: Ok. http://paste.ubuntu.com/510646/
[06:15] <deryl> now that is positively weird! My taskbar just keeps dying every so often out of the blue.. takes about a moinute and then reappears.
[06:15] <sco> has there been any booting/GRUB problems after upgrading to 10.10?
[06:15] <nwg> Anyone know how to make irssi not show join/parts?
[06:16] <izinucs> nwg: /ignore #ubuntu joins parts quits .. then /save
[06:16] <wappiejones> anyone here downloaded 10.10?
[06:16]  * izinucs bangs forehead on table
[06:16] <deryl> uhhhh major release day and you want to know if its been downloaded?
[06:16] <ABGD> hi folks, i hope you're all doing well. I have a really unusual problem... My system monitor is showing CPU 1 at 50% usage and CPU2 and 100% usage.. I'm just running pidgin and system monitoring... what is consuming my processors???
[06:16] <sco> i did, now im stuck in grub rescue
[06:17] <XaeroX> Oh wait today was 10.10 release?
[06:17] <ABGD> also note, I have a relatively fresh install of 10.04
[06:17] <deryl> izinucs ~ bang one more time for me.
[06:17] <deryl> xaerox ~ hah!
[06:17] <izinucs> ABGD: in system monitor check the view settings and make sure it says all
[06:17] <XaeroX> Hahah i just got it :D 10/10/10 Ubuntu 10.10 Comes out
[06:17] <Jordan_U> sco: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt ?
[06:17] <wappiejones> believe newbies got to stay with 10.04
[06:17] <deryl> xaerox ~ i so want to choke you :)
[06:18] <ABGD> izinucs: it does say all
[06:18] <XaeroX> deryl likewise :)
[06:18] <sco> i bairly understood that, but im going to the link
[06:18] <ABGD> It shows CPU2 at 98-100% consistently.. and CPU1 at 60-75% consistently
[06:18] <Jordan_U> Eventus: Make sure that you're booting from sdb rather than sda, then run "ls" and "set" at the grub shell.
[06:19] <deryl> xaerox ~ <grin>
[06:19] <izinucs> ABGD: you could try top from the terminal
[06:19] <Jordan_U> Eventus: What is the value of $prefix (which will be listed by "set") and is the device in $prefix listed by ls?
[06:19] <ABGD> izinucs: can i show you the results?
[06:19] <danellebreo> anyone here know how you can increase mouse sensitivity
[06:19] <danellebreo> mouse pad
[06:20] <nwg> @izinucs: thanks. now I can keep up with the chatter ^_^
[06:20] <izinucs> ABGD: if you'd like.. you'll have to pastebin them
[06:20] <ABGD> izinucs:
[06:20] <Eventus> Jordan_U: Does $prefix need to be entered at grub rescue>?
[06:20] <ABGD> izinucs: http://imgur.com/Q1PVk.png
[06:21] <izinucs> nwg: it really tough watching those
[06:21] <putputt> hi
[06:21] <ABGD> izinucs: what is that item "backend" consuming 88%?
[06:21] <putputt> hi
[06:21] <ejv> good morning, upon boot of my new 10.10 installation, i saw 3 errors regarding "modprobe" issues, how do I view them, and then SQUASH them?
[06:21] <izinucs> ABGD: no idea unless it's auto updates.. did you just install? have you done all the updates yet?
[06:22] <ABGD> izinucs: yup i have all updates completed
[06:22] <Jordan_U> Eventus: No, you need to run "set" at the rescue prompt, to list the value of $prefix.
[06:22] <PovAddict> hi
[06:22] <ABGD> izinucs: i just did a google search its coming out to something about printers... i remember tryying to configure my printer and it didn't work.. could that be it?
[06:22] <izinucs> ABGD: then I'm lost.. maybe someone else will be able to answer that one.
[06:22] <Eventus> Ok. I'll try that
[06:23] <izinucs> ABGD: perhaps..
[06:23] <Kevin1a> Is it possible to change the default for the session type that is selected in the login menu?  For example if the default is desktop and I have the choice between UNR, desktop, terminal, or safe mode, can I set the default to be terminal?  How?  Thanks.
[06:23] <PovAddict> I'm not planning to install Ubuntu, but I want to help with the bittorrent swarm
[06:23] <PovAddict> which torrents do you think need more bandwidth? are we already at more 64-bit users than 32-bit users?
[06:24] <ABGD> ok i killed it my processor usage went down
[06:24] <XaeroX> holy crap my battery is dead on laptop! It works 7 hours on windows 7, and died within 1 hour on new Ubuntu
[06:24] <izinucs> PovAddict: get them both :)
[06:24] <fishscene> Is anyone getting an authentication glitch when elevating privileges?  The "authenticate" dialoge remains open and nothing happens unless you click the "X" button in the corner... then it proceeds to install.
[06:24] <PovAddict> izinucs: I won't get every single .iso.torrent available in the tracker ;)
[06:24] <XaeroX> Guys Ubuntu is killing the battery
[06:24] <ABGD> what is the typical CPU consumption of Ubuntu with Gnome on a Dual Core 2.6Ghz system?
[06:24] <putputt> Hi can you guys read this?
[06:24] <PovAddict> yes putputt
[06:24] <ejv> Kevin1a: you need to adjust your runlevels.
[06:24] <izinucs> PovAddict: just the two live desktop versions.. that's what most download
[06:25] <nwg> @izinucs: I guess its a good thing I got here after the swarm of people shouting !out-yet
[06:25] <PovAddict> woah it's saturating my download pipe
[06:25] <ejv> Kevin1a: in most distros, you can edit inittab and change it to a runlevel that doesn't spawn a display manager, not sure about Ubuntu, google ;)
[06:25] <putputt> I'm connected through a raw connection, no client
[06:25] <ejv> i'm connected thru a raw client, no connection :D
[06:25]  * ejv drumrolls
[06:26] <putputt> Yay, are we the only people acting as a client in this channel?
[06:27] <Eventus2> Jordan_U: (hd0,1)/boot/grub
[06:27] <windowshasyou> so will canonical pay for a new hd since their latest release appears to be killing hds again?
[06:27] <fishscene> killing hard drives?
[06:27] <sin_tax> windowshasyou, really? I was just about to upgrade.. 0_0
[06:28] <Kevin1a> ejv: thanks, I'll check google again.  Actually I want to install UNR for the automatic window maximization and stuff like that, but I hate the unity interface, and want to boot into the default desktop automatically, I was just using the terminal as an example of one of the session options.
[06:28] <windowshasyou> fishscene: yep
[06:28] <Jordan_U> Eventus2: Then you are not booting from sdb, try removing sda if you need to to be sure you are booting from sdb.
[06:28] <nwg> @putputt: what exactly do you mean by "raw connection"? did you like manually open your own socket or something?
[06:28] <fishscene> How does it kill hard drives?
[06:28] <PhrostyB> i gotta admit i am liking this new ubuntu!!!
[06:28] <PovAddict> windowshasyou: depends if you paid for support
[06:28] <sin_tax> PhrostyB, what are you coming from?
[06:28] <PhrostyB> mint
[06:28] <windowshasyou> fishscene: talk to jschall in #linux. He installed the latest on his system, rebooted and discovered his hd no longer functioned.
[06:28] <SeymourBewty> My installation was fine.  I'm just not getting any audio for some reason.  I would appreciate some help with this matter.
[06:29] <Jordan_U> windowshasyou: That doesn't mean Ubuntu killed his drive.
[06:29] <ejv> PhrostyB: agreed.
[06:29] <PovAddict> I'm only uploading at 9KB/s, weird
[06:29] <fishscene> sorry, pidgin died
[06:29] <PovAddict> there has to be more users downloading
[06:29] <ejv> nautilus FINALLY got some pollish, FINALLY.
[06:29] <windowshasyou> fishcooker: Its not the first report I've seen about banto 10 killing hds
[06:29] <ejv> been waiting like 2 years... lol
[06:30] <sco> Jordan_U: i cant get into Win or Ubntu on my comp (im now on family comp) to download that
[06:30] <fishscene> windowshasyou: How would it kill a hard drive?
[06:30] <PovAddict> banto?
[06:30] <windowshasyou> fishscene: how did the default kernel for gutsy gibbon kill all those laptop hds?
[06:30] <PovAddict> windowshasyou: tell jschall to come here if he really cares
[06:30] <sin_tax> is there a way to toggle out of 'location mode' (Ctrl+L) in nautilus?
[06:30] <windowshasyou> PovAddict: nah... hes being redirected to a real distro now
[06:31] <fishscene> I don't even know what you're talking about. If you can't answer a question concerning the validity of your claims, then don't make them.
[06:31] <PovAddict> I see no point in going to #linux to hear him rant :P
[06:31] <nwg> @sin_tax: I think you just push [ctrl]+L again.
[06:31] <windowshasyou> fishscene: hold on... since you are apparently too lazy to use that thing called google...
[06:31] <blakkheim> windowshasyou: what distro might that be
[06:31] <rymo> 4 hours wasted came down to this: Ubuntu requires the username be all lowercase
[06:31] <ejv> rymo: sounds like a bad windows habit ;)
[06:32] <tutuxg> yea, whats wrong with lowrcase usernames?
[06:32] <rymo> ejv: it does! but no indication this was what was preventing me from continuing a fresh 10.10 install
[06:32] <Jygga> offtopic: is there a more elegant way, asking for the actual amount of minutes that passed since some point, other than "after how many minutes ..." ?
[06:32] <windowshasyou> fishscene: here is one among many hundreds of articles on that... http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/30/1742258
[06:32] <rymo> i fully accept a lowercase username! I welcome it, in fact -- but nothing told me this was necessary
[06:32] <naxa> hi! do you know the right channel asking "how to fit gaussian distributions to multiple peaks?" :)
[06:33] <ejv> rymo: tip, if ever your having issue, drop to a fall back terminal (alt+ctrl+f1->f9) and you may get some hints ;)
[06:33] <PovAddict> naxa: #math?
[06:33] <Dandel> i'm having troubles with the installer crashing at random places... it's probably not liking the amd 780xt chipset :/
[06:33]  * deryl eats his bacon and eggs and watches the drama unfold
[06:33] <naxa> PovAddict, thanks, will try that
[06:33] <fishscene> That's all I was asking for. Thanks.
[06:33] <rymo> there needs to be a red X or a note or something the instant I type that first capital letter, am I wrong to want that?
[06:33] <rymo> ejv: thanks for that, though I want to contribute to Ubuntu's goal of being friendly for The People, and that isn't so much
[06:34] <ejv> rymo: sometimes you gotta give a little to get a lot ;)
[06:34] <rymo> so somewhere I need to post my strong recommendation for an addition to the installer UI
[06:34] <maco> rymo: great idea. please file a bug. ubuntu-bug ubiquity
[06:34] <rymo> maco: thanks
[06:34] <nwg> @rymo: Hearing that made me lol. I remember when I was first setting up my system and I wanted my username to be in caps, but I'm pretty sure the GUI told me it had to be in lowercase. And yeah, it was indeed an old Windoze habbit.
[06:35] <ejv> rymo: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs click the "report a bug"
[06:35] <fishscene> windowshasyou: That article is 3 years old. yikes.
[06:35] <maco> ejv: itll just take you to a "you're doin it wrong" wiki page which will tell you to do it the way i told rymo to
[06:35] <rymo> I accept some of the stupid-user blame on this, but in this case - leaving the Full Name blank took away the green check, but still allowed the install to proceed.  so definitely a bug.
[06:36] <maco> windowshasyou: the laptop mode stuff was fixed ages ago
[06:36] <thalib> after the upgrage to 10.10
[06:36] <tutuxg> nwg, i remember seeing that too, did they forgot to add that in 10.10?
[06:36] <maco> windowshasyou: and please dont call names because someone hasnt heard of a thing you did
[06:36] <rymo> (I mean, no-green-check not consistent in meaning)
[06:36] <ejv> maco: oh? *shrug*
[06:36] <windowshasyou> maco: Apparently it hasn't been fixed.
[06:36] <sa-evo> Need help. Have a USB set up for Ubuntu 10.10 32-bit. When booting my netbook from USB it hangs at:
[06:36] <sa-evo> SYSLINUX 4.02 2010-07-21 EDD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin et al
[06:36] <sa-evo> _
[06:36] <thalib> when i reboot i get error symbol grub_puts not found
[06:36] <maco> windowshasyou: oh? who undid those commits?
[06:37] <bazhang> windowshasyou, lets move along please
[06:37] <putputt> how often does freenode send Ping messages?
[06:37] <bazhang> putputt, ask in #freenode
[06:37] <deryl> how is a pissin contests coing to help others here?
[06:37] <thalib> when i reboot i get error symbol grub_puts not found
[06:37] <deryl> err going
[06:37] <maco> windowshasyou: what you said above doesnt make sense. the old bugs were about *over long term usage* not coincidences on first boot
[06:37] <a2f> hi, i'm getting an error when i try running apt-get build-dep mplayer. something about a certain file doesn't exist. can someone help?
[06:37] <windowshasyou> maco: so far, in the last 2 hours, I've seen 5 or 6 cases either in irc or on forums where people have tried to install the latest, reboot, and discover their hd is no longer seen by the system.
[06:37] <windowshasyou> or hangs on detection
[06:37] <GabeYYZ> evening everyone
[06:38] <maco> windowshasyou: sounds more like a bug in the kernel's ability to detect hard drives then
[06:38] <maco> windowshasyou: not a hardware failiure
[06:38] <maco> *failure
[06:38] <windowshasyou> maco: its not the kernel... its the motherboards
[06:38] <tutuxg> a2f, you better tell us exactly what's the output was
[06:38] <a2f> one moment
[06:38] <windowshasyou> in each case, people have posted that they had to uplug their drives to get the bios to post.
[06:38] <maco> windowshasyou: well tell them to file bugs
[06:38] <izinucs> windowshasyou: happens sometimes when you have more than 1 drive.. installing grub to both drives usually fixes it.
[06:38] <deryl> windowshasyou ~ well for that.. I've got a channel with 140 regular users and as many drive-by users, and not a one has made that complaint. not a single one
[06:39] <a2f> tutuxg: E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_partner_source_Sources - open (2: No such file or directory)
[06:39] <maco> windowshasyou: we have the same code as fedora, slackware, etc. so if kernels are magically letting the blue smoke out of motherboards, itll be happening on those too
[06:39] <thalib> when i reboot i get error symbol grub_puts not found
[06:39] <deryl> either under 10.04 nor 10.10 (so far)
[06:39] <Jordan_U> thalib: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[06:39] <tutuxg> a2f, do a apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[06:39] <GabeYYZ> i downloaded 10.10, burned to a live cd and it worked great
[06:39] <thalib> yes
[06:39] <windowshasyou> maco: not exactly since your devs patch everything all to hell. most stuff isn't even recognizable when compared to the vanilla sources
[06:39] <GabeYYZ> i'll try to update tomorrow and if that goes awry, i'll do a fresh install
[06:39] <Dandel> i see 10.10 have i/o errors all over the place.
[06:40] <maco> windowshasyou: are patches are pulled from upstream
[06:40] <a2f> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[06:40] <a2f> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:40] <windowshasyou> but hey, if you want to delude yourself into thinking bantu does nothing to stuff... be my guest
[06:40] <brandon_z> Is there any documentation on the new unity interface on maverick?
[06:40] <thalib> jordan_U yes
[06:40] <a2f> tutuxg: that happens when i try to run apt-get update
[06:40] <maco> windowshasyou: we cherrypick patches from current devel and put them on top of a stable kernel release to add support for additional hardware. NOT whole new drivers usually (too invasive).  just quirks.
[06:40] <a2f> it updates mos tof them but that error is displayed
[06:40] <Jordan_U> thalib: That error usually means that the components of grub in the mbr don't match those in /boot, which usually means grub is being installed on updates to a drive other than the one you're booting from.
[06:40] <tutuxg> a2f, it's fine
[06:40] <maco> windowshasyou: and im not deluding myself. i have the kernel tree checked out in git here
[06:41] <sa-evo> Need help. Have a USB set up for Ubuntu 10.10 32-bit. When booting my netbook from USB it hangs at:
[06:41] <sa-evo> SYSLINUX 4.02 2010-07-21 EDD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin et al
[06:41] <sa-evo> _
[06:41] <tutuxg> a2f, just run the build-dep again
[06:41] <Dandel> live USB/livecd both display the problems where the installer crashes and system becomes unstable (64-bit)
[06:41] <a2f> same thing tutuxg
[06:41] <bloopletech> I'm currently trying to recover a my bollocksed ubuntu system and X is broken at the moment - how do I connect to my WEP secured wireless network from a netroot prompt?
[06:41] <ejv> where do firefox downloads go...
[06:41] <fishscene> sa-evo: I don't know about the final realease, the but Release candidate had an issue with the USB method of installation...
[06:41] <deryl> ejv ~ usually ~/Downloads/
[06:42] <Eventus2> Jordan_U: It boots after removing the drive. How do I get it to boot with both drives in? The bios was already set to boot this one first
[06:42] <sco> when i boot up, in DOS, it says
[06:42] <sco> "veryfying DMI pool...
[06:42] <sco> error, no such device (long string of numbers & letters)
[06:42] <Dandel> I'm thinking my problem is a possible kernel bug related to I/O because firefox at times refuses to load because of I/O error.
[06:42] <sco> grub rescue>" i cant get into Win Vista or Ubuntu. is there anything anyone can suggest to be?
[06:42] <FloodBot4> sco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:42] <ejv> deryl: i wiped that folder out at first boot...
[06:42] <ejv> deryl: hmmm lol
[06:42] <deryl> then your ~/
[06:42] <sa-evo> fishscene, how can I get Ubuntu on to my netbook then?
[06:42] <sco> srry
[06:42] <bastidrazor> fishscene: only if you created persistant space ont he USB. create the liveUSB without any persistant space
[06:42] <bloopletech> ejv: check your desktop as well
[06:42] <tutuxg> a2f, im out of luck here :(
[06:42] <Jordan_U> sco: Can you boot a liveCD on said computer?
[06:42] <ejv> bloopletech: empty
[06:43] <ejv> there a temp folder it reverts to?
[06:43] <sco> i didnt make one. im on wubi
[06:43] <liquid> ejv: go into ubuntu options and check the location on the ifrst tab
[06:43] <sa-evo> bastidrazor, I didn't use persistance.
[06:43] <tutuxg> a2f, did u add the mediubuntu repo?
[06:43] <fishscene> ah. Like I said, I don't know about the final release, but bastidrazor might have an answer for you there.
[06:43] <fishscene> nvm
[06:43] <deryl> ejv ~ hehe don't wipe that out. a lot of software 9to accomodate Windows users moving to ubuntu) default points at ~/Downloads for stuff downloaded. The only other place it would go would be !/Documents/
[06:43] <a2f> tutuxg: let me check...
[06:43] <deryl> err ~/Documents
[06:43] <bloopletech> ejv: then go back to firefox, hit Ctrl+J then right click the download and select 'show in folder' or whichever
[06:43] <ejv> ok thanks fellas :)
[06:43] <deryl> yep
[06:43] <Jordan_U> sco: Do you have a windows install CD?
[06:44] <liquid> ejv: Edit->Preferences->first tab
[06:44] <sco> i have a restore cd from geek squad
[06:44] <ejv> aha they are in a folder called /tmp/
[06:44] <ejv> doh!
[06:44] <deryl> errr?
[06:44] <ejv> thx liquid, reset it :D
[06:44] <liquid> netime ejv:)
[06:44] <ejv> yea apparently if you wipe downloads out, it falls back to /tmp
[06:45] <ejv> clever :D
[06:45] <windowshasyou> maco: sorry, didn't see your posts. I have no doubt that you have the current git sources. The question is is whether you pulled it from the kernel.org git or ubuntu. If its the latter, you probably wouldn't know if it was patched.
[06:45] <nwg> @enj: You can find interesting things in /tmp/ :P
[06:45] <deryl> i so wouldn't like that
[06:45] <Jordan_U> sco: Can you burn a copy of Super GRUB2 Disk or an Ubuntu LiveCD?
[06:45] <bloopletech> is wpasupplicant used for wep-secured networks or only wpa ones
[06:45] <a2f> tutuxg: no medibuntu repos in sources.list
[06:45] <deryl> then again i didn't wipe out my directory :) so never ran into that to learn where it would fall back
[06:46] <rymo> looks like this is a known issue: #549195 Ubiquity should give visual feedback that username cannot contains capital letter(s) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/549195
[06:46] <rymo> maybe fixed by 11.04? :/
[06:46] <ejv> argh, why doesn't openssh-server ship, *growls*
[06:46] <tutuxg> a2f, try add it and update your repo list, mplayer may be out of reach with default repos
[06:47] <deryl> a2f ~ medibuntu doesn't seem to have their meerkat stuff in place yet. (I've a ton of stuff from their repos installed and I d0on't get a response for Packages|Packages.gz ect)
[06:47] <izinucs> a2f: you have to add it..
[06:47] <maco> windowshasyou: i pull it from ubuntu. there's this lovely little command called "git log".  ive also followed the ubuntu-kernel mailing list and irc channel for years. i may not be employed by canonical, but i have a pretty good idea how the kernel team works and how ubuntu development works in general, as i am an ubuntu developer and have contributed to the kernel. we try to maintain the smallest delta from upstream as possible because doing anything else
[06:47] <maco>  is more work for us. that means, we take patches that are already accepted upstream and backport them in most cases.
[06:47] <Eventus2> Jordan_U: It boots after disconnecting the secondary drive. What do I have to do to get it to work with both connected?
[06:47] <izinucs> !medibuntu | a2f This will tell you how.
[06:47] <sa-evo> Is there a way to do a full installation through Wubi? Since my USB drive won't work for it...
[06:47] <nwg> Anyone know how to put time or bandwidth limits on apt-p2p?
[06:48] <tutuxg> deryl, didnt they just link the lucid one for now?
[06:48] <sweetpi> bloopletech: it can be used for both
[06:48] <bloopletech> sweetpi: thanks will try and use that to connect y wifi
[06:48] <windowshasyou> maco: Ah so you were one of the ones that claimed there was nothing wrong whatsoever with the gutsy kernel even though it was killing the laptop hds... Can you give me one reason why I should place any faith in your word? specially since I lost an hd trying that mess?
[06:48] <Rhcp1253> Urg, my MacBook is spazzing on grub boot. Any ideas? All that happens is it shows some weird character, and freezes
[06:48] <Jordan_U> Eventus2: Plug in the second drive, boot from a liveCD, then follow these instructions up to step 2.
[06:49] <brandon_z> Need help with newest unity desktop in 10.10, I think its inferior to the previous version and it runs extremely slow on my netbook.  I'd like to ditch the newest unity desktop and go back to the previous one (10.04), but it seems that's not possible based on this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592796.  Is there any documentation out yet on 10.10 UNR?
[06:49] <deryl> tutuxg ~ I saw that in the sources.list.d but wasn't sure if it was done becauswe it was a manual add or if it was locked out for a reason until I reenabled it and tried to update
[06:49] <a2f> tutuxg and izinucs and deryl, i can install mplayer if i wanted to (with current repo settings) but not the build-dep.
[06:49] <maco> windowshasyou: i didnt say anything about gutsy other than "fixed now"
[06:49] <liquid> nwg: check in /etc/apt-p2p.conf
[06:49] <Dandel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510661/ (dmesg log showing errors)
[06:49] <maco> windowshasyou: well and that it was a long-term issue. it was a matter of extra wear & tear on the drives over the course of *years*
[06:49] <Jordan_U> Eventus2: Once you've chrooted (which is step 2 of that guide) run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and when asked what drives to install grub to select both (don't select any partitions).
[06:50] <maco> windowshasyou: wear & tear does not accumulate in only the 15 minutes it takes to install. something else must be wrong
[06:50] <deryl> a2f ~ we're just discussing a couple issues the medibuntu sources.list.d/ addition we make brings up. its backchatter
[06:50] <sco> Jordan_U: it all depends on how memory is needed for one or the other
[06:50] <bazhang> deryl, should be up the next day or two
[06:50] <deryl> maco ~ hah! took me 4 hours to download all the packages at 500kB/s and another 3 to actually apply :)
[06:50] <windowshasyou> maco: I'll be back in a minute... your last 3 posts have me laughing so hard that I have tears in my eyes
[06:51] <maco> deryl: well a CD install takes 15 minutes ;-)
[06:51] <deryl> bazhang ~ figuring as much. i was just under the impression they timed their updates to the release date
[06:51]  * maco hands windowshasyou a tissue
[06:51] <deryl> maco ~ hehe touche
[06:51] <Jordan_U> sco: What do you mean?
[06:51] <robbiev> hey all, I upgraded to 10.10. All is well except the process "events/1" will consume my cpu every 2 sec or so. It messes up my keyboard input. Any ideas?
[06:51] <raypeng> Ask your question?
[06:52] <bazhang> deryl, they do, the guy from webupd8 has filed a bug and should be online shortly, though not as needed these days as software center can do most if not all as medibuntu stuff
[06:52] <deryl> bazhang ~ ahh yeah, i just use them for the restricted stuff. codecs et al
[06:52] <Eventus2> Jordan_U: I don't see the link. It might be because I'm on my phone
[06:53] <deryl> my stuff works that i had previously installed from 10.04 so it's a non issue for me at the moment. however, you did clarify enough for me so i know i was on the right track.
[06:53] <Jordan_U> Eventus2: Sorry, forgot to paste the link :) http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[06:53] <deryl> bazhang ~ thinking and knowing are not the same thing :) you took me from thinking it was one way to knowing it was one way and why it wasn't acting that way :)
[06:54]  * Gnurdux needs someone who is on Maverick and has an ATI 5000 series card
[06:54] <Eventus2> Jordan_U: ok I'll give it a shot
[06:54] <Rhcp1253> Ipod
[06:54] <sco> Jordan_U: i only have CD-Rw disks to use. is Live CD or Super grub going to fit on 700MB?
[06:54] <bloopletech> Gnurdux: I have a mobility radeon hd 5650
[06:54] <Gnurdux> bloopletech, are you on Maverick?
[06:54] <bloopletech> I just upgraded to maverick
[06:54] <Gnurdux> sweet
[06:55] <Gnurdux> can you install the ATI stream SDK?
[06:55] <bloopletech> but my system is currenlty broken because of the upgrade and stuff
[06:55] <Rhcp1253> Needs some help. I can't figure out why my grub isn't working
[06:55] <Gnurdux> bloopletech, oh
[06:55] <bloopletech> sorry ;)
[06:55] <Jordan_U> sco: Both will fit, Ubuntu's liveCD is 695 meg and Super GRUB2 Disk is only 1.4 meg :)
[06:55] <alexjps> is anyone having an problem with the 10.10 update, not being able to boot into windows or ubuntu, or any other OS...?
[06:55] <bloopletech> I might be able to help once my system's fixed
[06:55] <brandon_z> Anybody using Maverick UNR here?
[06:55] <rymo> Windows-y or not, there have to be a LOT of first-timers out there who would also naturally attempt to type their first name in Proper Case as their username
[06:55] <deryl> alexjps ~ more detail
[06:55] <fishscene> UNR = ?
[06:55] <sco> awesome
[06:56] <rymo> I can't believe this has been noticed since at least march and nothing done to fix it
[06:56] <bazhang> !une | fishscene
[06:56] <Jordan_U> Rhcp1253: Is this after a fresh install?
[06:56] <deryl> rymo ~ don't think anyone here is denying that
[06:56] <alexjps> i used the software update within 10.04 to upgrade to 10.10, which took about a half hour.
[06:56] <Gnurdux> i'm trying to figure out why clEnqueueAcquireGLObjects is segfaulting
[06:56] <alexjps> it said it needed a reboot
[06:56] <alexjps> so i did
[06:56] <Rhcp1253> Yes, several actually
[06:56] <deryl> alexjps ~ more on 1 line please
[06:56] <Blue1> firefox seems to lockup.  chrome and google are fine.  what;s up with that?
[06:56] <alexjps> but it gave me the grub rescue
[06:56] <deryl> alexjps ~ more on 1 line please
[06:56] <rymo> just venting.  a lot of time wasted needlesly.
[06:57] <rymo> i'm keeping 10.04 on this machine a while longer until I'm sure my friend has no more problems
[06:57] <deryl> rymo ~ from what you're describing i agree that's NOT intuitive
[06:57] <misspapaya> really quickly, how do I edit kernel arguments in grub2?
[06:57] <misspapaya> is there an easy way like in grub1?
[06:57] <rymo> and I guess I'll have to remain cautious about recommending self-installs to more newbies for the time being
[06:57] <Jordan_U> misspapaya: Hold shift during boot to get the grub menu, then press "e" to edit the menu entry and ctrl+x to execute the edited entry.
[06:57] <rymo> so close and yet so far!
[06:58] <Rhcp1253> It's a MacBook 5,1, and at this point I'm about ready to trade it in for a thinkpad. Da#n apple
[06:58] <misspapaya> Jordan_U: will that save it or just execute what I wrote?
[06:58] <sa-evo> I think I might just have to do a USB install of 10.04 instead, as that should work.
[06:58] <Crypto> lol I see thats a popular topic in here
[06:58] <Jordan_U> misspapaya: Just execute what you wrote. If you want to make a permanent change then edit /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub".
[06:58] <Crypto> bug 608382?
[06:59] <Crypto> aka 'this thing wont boot from USB?
[06:59] <misspapaya> Jordan_U: thanks
[06:59] <venky10> Is ubuntu shipped with Mac's hardware drivers?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> misspapaya: You're welcome.
[06:59] <sa-evo> Crypto, yep it seems to be.
[06:59] <sa-evo> Not sure how else I'd get Ubuntu on a netbook.
[06:59] <Jordan_U> venky10: Mac hardware is PC hardware, so yes.
[06:59] <jschall> !purekde
[06:59] <Crypto> Ive got no linux boxes in the house right now, so Im in the same boat, only I have to use the windows pendrive creator
[06:59] <Crypto> looks like Im boned until they fix something, I think
[06:59] <rusivi> venky10 Friends of mine have used the Live CD of Maverick on a Mac Book Pro successfully.
[06:59] <Rhcp1253> venky10: depends which hardware though
[07:00] <Crypto> I took the ui out of syslinux.cfg and now it hoses with that gfxboot config error
[07:00] <lou1234> Hello!
[07:00] <ejv> hi!
[07:00] <ejv> btw, what's the command line tool to add a PPA?
[07:00] <venky10> Jordan_U : For example, the multitouch touchpad recognition. I guess you need separate drivers for it
[07:00] <ejv> totally forgot...
[07:00] <nwg> ejv: apt-add-repository I belive
[07:00] <paradizelost> hey all, i'm trying to install the netbook version of 10.10 on my U100
[07:01] <ejv> thx nwg
[07:01] <bazhang> ejv, add-apt-repository you mean?
[07:01] <Jordan_U> venky10: No, their multitouch touchpads are nothing mac specific.
[07:01] <paradizelost> and it just sits there at the SYSLINUX screen
[07:01] <Crypto> how is it that this is a pretty critical bug that was opened in JULY, and it persisted until after release
[07:01] <ejv> bazhang: prolly lol
[07:01] <Crypto> paradizelost: get in line, lol. Thats a popular unfixed bug
[07:01] <bazhang> ejv, the full thing is listed on the PPA page
[07:01] <Rhcp1253> But there is a 3rd party driver for the apple multitoucg, wish I had my computer rite now
[07:01] <sa-evo> Crypto, paradizelost; perhaps we should just go to 10.04 and upgrade?
[07:01] <paradizelost> any other way to get it on my netbook? i have no cd/dvd rom to attach
[07:01] <Jordan_U> venky10: Though multitouch gesture support in Ubuntu, other than two finger scrolling / three finger tap for middle click, is not great at the moment.
[07:02] <misspapaya> Jordan_U: I didn't see any kernel lines in that file
[07:02] <paradizelost> my other option is to go back to win 7
[07:02] <Crypto> sa-evo: we're just trying out the livecd because we didnt care for 10.04
[07:02] <Crypto> sa-evo: we're not installing yet
[07:02] <Jordan_U> misspapaya: Edit GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX
[07:02] <Rhcp1253> I hate macs
[07:02] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | misspapaya
[07:02] <juk> damn it! /var/mbox supposed to be a file
[07:02] <Rhcp1253> !
[07:02] <paradizelost> i've had issues getting ubuntu installed on my netbook in the past too
[07:03] <misspapaya> okay thanks I'll stop bothering now
[07:03] <paradizelost> not just with 10.10
[07:03] <bloopletech> where are my wireless network passwords stored on my filesystem?
[07:03] <Rhcp1253> Efi makes no sense
[07:03] <alexjps> i upgraded within ubuntu desktop from 10.04 to 10.10, but after the reboot, the grub loader doesn't run and there's no way to boot into either Windows, or Ubuntu. has anyone else had this issue? i get the grub rescue error.
[07:03] <Rhcp1253> Anyone know why I keep getti g this error?
[07:03] <a2f> anyone recommend a usenet downloader for kde?
[07:04] <yo> yo, is there a way to install the new ubuntu on my netbook?
[07:04] <Rhcp1253> Sorry if I'm being annoying
[07:04] <aoglobalent684> I am insatalling Ubuntu 10 and need help with partitioning my hard drive. I can not have it automaticly done for me, because I am installing a software on myu new Ubuntu that requires its own seperate partition. Taht being said, I need to install Primary drive = seond drive - swap drive. Can any one help me through this process?
[07:04] <Crypto> yo: not right now, no
[07:04] <Jordan_U> alexjps: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[07:04] <yo> Crypto :(
[07:04] <Crypto> yo: theres an open bug about the USB sticks not booting on 10.10
[07:04] <yo> shit
[07:04] <Crypto> yo: unfortunately its been an open bug SINCE JULY
[07:04] <Crypto> :(
[07:04] <yo> ahh..
[07:04] <alexjps> Jordan_U: i have ubuntu on my external and windows on my hdd on my laptop
[07:04] <yo> bad luck
[07:04] <deryl> yo careful. swearing is not allowed in here
[07:05] <paradizelost> Crypto did no one test it before releasing it?
[07:05] <deryl> yo ~ I constantly get popped for forgetting :)
[07:05] <nwg> When I want to do a fresh install, I usually "burn" the liveCD to a flashdrive with http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[07:05] <Crypto> paradizelost: one would have thought so, but I dunno. I think the testers all made assumptions that might not have been true
[07:05] <yo> deryl are you a bot
[07:05] <aoglobalent684> Neep help with partitioning my drives for Ubuntu 10
[07:05] <deryl> no
[07:05] <yo> ok then
[07:05] <deryl> as human as the rest :)
[07:05] <yo> thanks
[07:05] <Jordan_U> alexjps: What happens when you try to boot from the internal drive?
[07:05] <deryl> yep
[07:05] <yo> well im screwed
[07:05] <rymo> funny, I just noticed that at least 20% or better of the people in this room have a capital letter on their username :)
[07:06] <deryl> i don' tknow I don't own a netbook
[07:06] <rymo> shame upon them all!
[07:06] <deryl> HP CQ61 here
[07:06] <Crypto> nwg: lol Note to Ubuntu 10.04 users installing 10.10: The version of UNetbootin from Ubuntu's repositories is outdated and doesn't support Ubuntu 10.10.
[07:06] <paradizelost> i noticed the screenshots haven't been updated since 9.10 or 9.04 on the instructions section of the netbook site
[07:06] <Crypto> thats on the unetbootin page
[07:06] <Rhcp1253> rymo: my iPod autocorrects it
[07:06] <yo> would you guys recommend a mac? hehe
[07:06] <rymo> Rhcp1253: hopefully Ubiquity will, too... someday
[07:07] <deryl> *I* would but then again I code mainly in ruby and rails so ..
[07:07] <Rhcp1253> Hopefully...
[07:07] <mikeru> hey
[07:07] <mikeru> where's the clock indicator?
[07:07] <mikeru> I still see the old applet
[07:07] <mikeru> wasn't a new clock indicator made for maverick?
[07:07] <Rhcp1253> It's 2 am here. I just realized
[07:07] <alexjps> Jordan_U: it gives the same error as when i try to use the alternate hdd
[07:07] <yo> this is an interesting huge server
[07:07] <deryl> yo ~ i'd say probably 90 to 95% of ruby and rails coders do so on Macs. (I'm a throwback cheapy that sticks with x86/x86_64 hardware)
[07:07] <Selac> anybody can tell me how to enable USB ports in Ubuntu 10.10
[07:08] <naxa> has intel support for 8xx cards been improved in 10.10?
[07:08] <BentSpace> Why does Ubuntu recommend the 32-bit version of 10.10 on the download page vs. the 64 bit version?
[07:08] <yo> really 95 programmers of ruby use mac?
[07:08] <deryl> bentspace ~ because many people still use 32bit
[07:08] <deryl> mostly on old hardware
[07:08] <inuyasha10121> Hello, I was wondering if someone could assist me in turning my ubuntu into an online webserver.  Iḿ trying to host some applications for others to access and utilize.  Ive tried fiddling with Apache, but I cant quite figure it out.
[07:08] <Xeakin> can i get some help pls? =)
[07:08] <yo> deryl do you have a developer page or something
[07:08] <alexjps> Jordan_U: it says something like "error: not on disk:  xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxx" where the x's are a bunch of letters and numbers.
[07:08] <Ryen> !ask | Xeakin
[07:08] <Jordan_U> BentSpace: Issues with flash on 64 bit, and because some people only have 32 bit hardware.
[07:08] <deryl> yo no
[07:08] <dogmatic69> inuyasha10121: #httpd could help you if you dont get help here
[07:09] <Xeakin> ok ubottu thanks im pretty new here lol
[07:09] <Ryen> !thanks | Xeakin
[07:09] <massmc> 10.10, how does it work?
[07:09] <aoglobalent684> NEDD Help in partitioning my Drives in Ubuntu 10 install
[07:09] <BentSpace> But if you have a 64-bit capable system does Ubuntu recommend using the 64-bit version?
[07:09] <alexjps> Jordan_U: i can reboot and try again and get the exact error, but im not able to boot windows or ubuntu from either hdd, im using the live disc
[07:09] <deryl> yo i deal with companies like the canadian cat association, american cat association, private local firms ect. word of mouth mostly. (I'm in no way a huge name)
[07:09] <Jordan_U> alexjps: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt ?
[07:09] <inuyasha10121> @dogmatic Thanks for the advice, I will move there if I don get a response soon.
[07:09] <deryl> bentspace ~ yes
[07:10] <dogmatic69> inuyasha10121: it is more apache related than ubuntu though :)
[07:10] <bloopletech> bbl
[07:10] <Xeakin> ok ive installed ubuntu 10.10 two times, i have windows 7 and when i do install unbuntu, windows is listen in grub2 but when i choose it to boot with it, it just doesnt, it keep commin back to grub2 menu over and over, first time this happen to me
[07:10] <alexjps> Jordan_U: sure, i already ran that. gimme a minute. thanks in advance :)
[07:10] <deryl> bentspace ~ you get the one for your specific hardware. if you have a 32bit, get the 32bit. if 64...
[07:10] <BentSpace> Jordan_U, deryl,  does 10.10 64 bit still have a problem with flash?
[07:10] <inuyasha10121> @dogmatic69: Yeah, I just didnt really know where to go to
[07:11] <Jordan_U> Xeakin: You accidentily installed grub to your windows partition.
[07:11] <deryl> bentspace ~ not that I have seen. I'm on 10.10 with 64bit flash and I've no issues
[07:11] <nmvictor> ubuntu 10.10  is finally here, huree..e!
[07:11] <stoopkit> can i atp-get upgrade my 10.10.rc1 to 10.10final?
[07:11] <paradizelost> nwg thanks for the suggestion. it appears to be working so far
[07:11] <deryl> xeakin ~ or you have 2 partitions (some laptops have 2 partitions. 1 boots windows the other actually holds windows like the HP line does)
[07:11] <paradizelost> at least it's at a splash screen
[07:11] <wktian> ubuntu10.10is better than ubuntu10.04?
[07:11] <Xeakin> Jordan_U windows seven makes a partition of like 100 megabytes for the mbr thats where i tell grub2 to install not where windows is wich is another partition
[07:11] <BentSpace> deryl, Jordan_U, sweet, thank you.
[07:12] <deryl> could be that it's trying to boot from the windows second partition but that's not set up to boot, only trhe first is.
[07:12] <nwg> Crypto: I used to have this memory stick that I had put all sorts of fun things on including PartedMagic, NT Password Recovery (http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/), and an Ubuntu LiveCD. It was so much fun! I could take it to campus and (since the computers there didn't have the BIOS protected) I could boot from it and never leave my comfortable Linux environment. ^_^
[07:12] <lou1234> what is the best way to determine the mount point for your dvdrw drive?  I have checked fstab and mtab but I don't have a point in there however when i load a music cd ubuntu loads it up
[07:12] <Jordan_U> Xeakin: You should never install grub to a partition.
[07:12] <paradizelost> yo, go to http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ and use that
[07:12] <deryl> that's something you have to find out for your laptop
[07:12] <paradizelost> its working for me so far
[07:12] <deryl> jordan_u ~ you sure he's installing to the partition and not the MBR?
[07:12] <Jordan_U> Xeakin: That 100 meg partition is Windows's equivelent of a separate /boot, it is needed for booting windows.
[07:12] <Xeakin> Jordan_U ive done it like that with older ubuntu versions, how should i do then?
[07:12] <Jordan_U> deryl: Yes.
[07:12] <deryl> jordan_u ~ ok
[07:13] <Xeakin> where grub2 goes? lol im lost
[07:13] <deryl> hehe yeah don't delete that 100MB windows partition. SO a bad idea
[07:13] <alexjps> Jordan_U: i have it in the pastebin,     http://paste.ubuntu.com/510674/
[07:13] <Jordan_U> Xeakin: Install to the mbr, e.g. /dev/sda rather than /dev/sda1
[07:13] <tarelerulz> Do you all know where the  webm video is stored  on Ubuntu 10.01?
[07:13] <Xeakin> ok i will, thank you very much =)
[07:14] <aoglobalent684> I NEED HELP Can Any one help mke?
[07:14] <aoglobalent684> ME?
[07:14] <deryl> NOT IF YOU YELL
[07:14] <Xeakin> i have another question, here it goes: the cpu fun keeps workin like crazy even when im doing nothing at all, any clue why could that be?
[07:14] <aoglobalent684> I have asked like 3 times lool
[07:14] <Jordan_U> Xeakin: Just installing grub to the right place wont fix your windows partition though, to do that follow these instructions: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[07:14] <aoglobalent684> deryl
[07:14] <Xeakin> cpu fan i ment*
[07:14] <rev087> I got two big issues after upgrading to 10.10: 1) picking the 2.6.35 kernel from Grub makes me stuck in a black screen and 2) using the 2.6.32 it boots but there doesn't seem to be support for nividia
[07:14] <deryl> aoglobalent684 ~ well thenh wait until someone answers
[07:14] <paradizelost> Xeakin could be your fan is plugged with dust
[07:14] <deryl> aoglobalent684 ~ if they know they will. if they don't they wont
[07:14] <aoglobalent684> I need help partitioning my hard drives for an Ubuntu 10 instal
[07:15] <nwg> Crypto: Unfortunatly, one time when I tried to use it in my camera, it decided the files on there would make a good snack. :P
[07:15] <Xeakin> it doesnt do it in windows 7 paradizelost
[07:15] <deryl> aoglobalent684 ~ let the installer do it
[07:15] <aoglobalent684> deryl
[07:15] <nkdoodwal> aoglobalent684: use gparted
[07:15] <deryl> aoglobalent684 ~ you're going to annoy me REAL fast
[07:15] <Crypto> okay, Im using the current-brand-new version of netbootin
[07:15] <aoglobalent684> deryl the software that I need to run on Ubuntu requires me to have a seperate partitioned drive and I can't do that with the auto partitioning
[07:15] <Crypto> its writing out now. I'll reboot and try to see if it comes up afterwards
[07:16] <vaibhav> Any tool by which I can monitor bandwidth of LAN, want to monitor bandwidth being used by each PC in LAN..
[07:16] <Jordan_U> alexjps: It's a known bug in wubi that I am ashamed hasn't been fixed yet.
[07:16] <deryl> aoglobalent684 ~ then use the manual partitioner. the options specifically allow you to manually partition
[07:16] <deryl> its just a simple checkbox on the screen
[07:16] <alexjps> Jordan_U: how can i get around this?
[07:16] <JimBoogie> 10.10, how does it work
[07:16] <deryl> aoglobalent684 ~ actually READ the pages as you install
[07:16] <aoglobalent684> deryl, sorry I typed your name and hit enter without writing what I needed to say, IT happened by mistake
[07:16] <Crypto> JimBoogie: miracle
[07:17] <pete__> can we adjust the time out function on 10.2
[07:17] <alexjps> Jordan_U: is this something i have to just... essentially, deal with, until its fixed?
[07:17] <nmvictor> Im am not asked for the password at login, using Lucid lynx. Settings at System>Administration>Users and Groups are ok, I just dont know why I am automatically logged in? i have poset the issue at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9951451#post9951451 for more information
[07:17] <aoglobalent684> deryl that is what I need help with, when I try to do it, it doesn't allow me to do so and I think I am doing some thing wrong....
[07:17] <deryl> ok i'm steppin away before i choke someone
[07:17] <nwg> aoglobalent684: do you need help with how *to* partition, or with how things should *be* partitioned?
[07:17] <romulo> oi
[07:18] <Rhcp1253> deryl: lol
[07:18] <nowimproved> im trying to upgrade form 10.0.4 but it says Ubuntu 'Maverick Meerkat' development release
[07:18] <Jordan_U> alexjps: If you can boot an Ubuntu liveCD then "sudo apt-get install mbr; sudo install-mbr /dev/sda" (if sda is your internal drive, whatever you do do *NOT* select a partition like sda1) should fix it untill the next upgrade of the grub-pc package.
[07:18] <aoglobalent684> nwg, how to. I tried to partition them myself and it seemed to not work properly
[07:18] <nowimproved> Do not install it on production machines.
[07:18] <woulfe> Ubuntu 10.10 64 Bit, New install, (Nvidia Geforce GT 240 ) Screen Freeze.
[07:19] <aoglobalent684> nwg, I need thre partitions primary (Ubuntu) - second - Swap
[07:19] <alexjps> okay. well on the pastebin i sent, ubuntu is on the sda5, i believe...
[07:19] <aoglobalent684> nwg oops three 3
[07:19] <vaibhav>  Any tool by which I can monitor bandwidth of LAN, want to monitor bandwidth being used by each PC in LAN.. I Tried but etherape which gives stats of my IP only.. How I can monitor Ethernet activity of other IP's? please help me out..
[07:19] <PwrSurge> does anyone know how to fix the synaptics touchpad sensitivity issue?
[07:19] <alexjps> Jordan_U: okay. well on the pastebin i sent, ubuntu is on sda5, i believe... sda1 and sda2 would be my windows/ntfs partitions on the internal drive, correct?
[07:20] <PwrSurge> that came since jaunty
[07:20] <Jordan_U> sco: Tell me when you have Super GRUB2 Disk or an Ubuntu LiveCD burned.
[07:20] <Exploiter> is there is any command to count the number of users in the room?? irc command??
[07:20] <aphexTwin> hey guys, total ubuntu noob here... just wanna know how to get my wireless internet card working on ubuntu.. on windows 7 right now
[07:20] <gschwepp> vaibhav: i heard of an project years ago. Try to google gnucomo
[07:20] <rww> Exploiter: "/names -count" does that in irssi
[07:21] <nwg> aoglobalent684: I personally don't like the partitioner in the installer, so I usually do the grunt work with GParted and then simply select where/what things are with the installer.
[07:21] <CajunTechie> Hey everyone. How can I run a set of commands when a user logs in?
[07:21] <Rhcp1253> Jordan_U: wait. There's a super grub2 disk?! IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR SO LONG!
[07:21] <albacker> hello, is maverick stable?
[07:21] <Exploiter> rww: not working in xchat.. :| anyways..
[07:21] <rww> Exploiter: #xchat might know, if nobody here does
[07:21] <aoglobalent684> nwg, so I would get that software and allocate accordingly before or after I do the install?
[07:21] <moetunes> !autostart | CajunTechie
[07:22] <CajunTechie> Moetunes: This is an SSH session
[07:22] <Jordan_U> Rhcp1253: Yup, has been for a while now :)
[07:22] <woulfe> Ubuntu 10.10 64 Bit, New install, (Nvidia Geforce GT 240 ) Screen Freeze.
[07:22] <Rhcp1253> Wow, fail by me
[07:23] <Rhcp1253> Ah, things learned at 3 am
[07:23] <tarelerulz> have any of you looked at a webm video ?
[07:23] <aoglobalent684> nwg, is there a more entry level irc chat for ubuntu where people might be able to help me that you know of?
[07:23] <nwg> CajunTechie: try thier ~/.profile
[07:23] <moetunes> CajunTechie:  in .bashrc then
[07:23] <bazhang> !ot > tarelerulz
[07:23] <CajunTechie> Cool thank you!
[07:24] <deryl> not sure which i enjoy more. the smell mf febreeze or the smell of freshly cooked bacon :)
[07:24] <Rhcp1253> deryl: more things learned at 3 am -_-
[07:24] <deryl> hehe yep :)
[07:24] <Jordan_U> sco: Tell me when you have Super GRUB2 Disk or an Ubuntu LiveCD burned.
[07:25] <woulfe> Ubuntu 10.10 64 Bit, New install, (Nvidia Geforce GT 240 ) Anyone know where to download driver.
[07:25] <nwg> aoglobalent684: I'm an irc noob, but I'm sure there are some. There's also the forums.
[07:25] <Xeakin> Can someone tell me wich is a good partitioning for ubuntu? like how much for / and how much for /home and /swap cant find like solid info so far
[07:25] <bazhang> Xeakin, how big a hard drive. single or dual boot
[07:25] <sco> woring on the ISO, trying to find a good sper grub 2 site
[07:25] <Jordan_U> woulfe: System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[07:26] <ejv> Xeakin: and how much ram do you already have?
[07:26] <jasa> woulfe, use the "Additional Drivers" from System menu, it works ... press activate and reboot when it's done/claims so.
[07:26] <Ryen> clear
[07:26] <Xeakin> bazhang dual boot i can use like 200 gb for linux
[07:26] <i_is_broke> woulfe, it does  i am using it now.
[07:26] <nwg> aoglobalent684: But yeah, I use GParted to create/resize/move partitions all before hand.
[07:26] <Xeakin> i have 4gb of ram
[07:26] <woulfe> @Jordan_U thats understandable but, ive done this and screen resolution is not correct, like its on default driver.
[07:26] <Rhcp1253> deryl: I prefer the smell of severed limbs. Maybe that's just me...
[07:27] <deryl> ejv ~ hehe careful with that. i advocate at least equal to ram (for a full ram swapout if needed) but that always starts a war so careful ;)
[07:27] <Jordan_U> sco: Yea, the download page needs to be much more discoverable, http://download.berlios.de/supergrub/super_grub_disk_hybrid-1.98s1.iso
[07:27] <i_is_broke> woulfe, the use the nvidia settings instead.
[07:27] <deryl> rhcp1253 ~ haloweenie :)
[07:27] <bazhang> Xeakin, 250MB for /boot   2GB swap   20 GB for /  and the rest for a separate /home partition
[07:27] <Lanks> why is it that when i do apt-get update nothing downloads but when i use the update manager theres packages to update?
[07:27] <rogergr> just don't know...
[07:27] <Xeakin> baz thanks! :D
[07:27] <juk> where is my private/publick keys?
[07:27] <woulfe> @jasa There is nothing listed in there.
[07:27] <Ryen> Lanks: Because update gets anything that you need to 'upgrade'
[07:27] <Rhcp1253> deryl: I'm making a bionic pumpkin! It's awesome!
[07:28] <Jordan_U> Lanks: I think you may have "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" confused.
[07:28] <deryl> anyways, methinks I'm going to go to bed. too much to do in the morning
[07:28] <deryl> rhcp1253 ~ hahahah niiice
[07:28] <Ryen> Lanks: If you want to update from the terminal, use the command sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:28] <Lanks> ok thanks for clarifying for me ryen and jordan
[07:28] <deryl> juk ~ .ssh for ssh .gnupg for gpg/pgp
[07:28] <Jordan_U> Lanks: You're welcome.
[07:28] <Rhcp1253> Crap. It's too late 2 be up. Ok, night ppl
[07:28] <uLinux> why i do not see Maverick in UBuntu updates?
[07:28] <Rhcp1253> And sorry pr the curse
[07:29] <Jordan_U> uLinux: Your apt mirror probably hasn't been updated yet.
[07:29] <deryl> juk ~ ONLY share the ones for gpg/pgp marked with .pub as the extension. the other is your secret key. BACK THAT UP AND PROTECT IT
[07:29] <bazhang> uLinux, do you have checked only look for LTS?
[07:29] <uLinux> let me see
[07:29] <deryl> anways.. i'm out for the night. later all
[07:29] <uLinux> yeah bazhang
[07:29] <uLinux> it's LTS only
[07:29] <vaibhav> gschwepp: thanks,  It seems like capturing activities of own Ethernet.
[07:29] <bazhang> uLinux, uncheck it
[07:29] <uLinux> :)
[07:30] <uLinux> bazhang: i will upgrade manually
[07:30] <uLinux> i was just curious
[07:30] <juk> deryl: thanks, I thinking what would I do with that
[07:30] <Mathuin> What's the best way to file a proper bug report?  I have a reproducible problem that causes a segfault.
[07:30] <moetunes> !bug
[07:30] <uLinux> now it shows 10.10 available
[07:31] <SaRy> lol
[07:31] <jasa> Running that of 10.10, feels pleasant overally, atleast after removing packages and freeing over the cd amount of packages it shipped with. = )
[07:32] <Mathuin> Thanks!
[07:32] <jasa> Uncompressed of course.
[07:32] <uLinux> what's the use of "Add CD-ROM..." in Other Software tab?
[07:32] <nwg> heh. I noticed my system had set itself to "LTS only" after it had updated to 10.04
[07:32] <Muscovy> In GParted, how can I move/resize a partition to use free space that's in front of it?
[07:32] <Crypto> well, okay, I can confirm that using the current daily build of unetbootin will boot up a 10.10 USB key
[07:32] <peepsalot> how can I see what repo a package is in?
[07:33] <nits> Muscovy: check the box that says beginning
[07:33] <Crypto> so make sure to add that as a data point for the 50,000 people that come in here between now and whenever the ubuntu web site has correct information
[07:33] <Crypto> so, lol unity and X on 10.10 apparently hate my intel GMA graphics card
[07:33] <nwg> Muscovy: Click on the partition you want to move/resize and then click on the third button from the left.
[07:34]  * Nimrodel is now away, auto-away after 20 minutes (log\on pager\on)
[07:34] <Xeakin> Ok my last question, wow i wish i discover irc sooner :)
[07:34] <uLinux> i didnt found a video showing how to upgrade manually by keeping the /home partition
[07:34] <ejv> that's not even a question... >:\
[07:34] <Xeakin> The Cpu Fan when im on ubuntu works like crazy even if i have like no app runing, why is that?
[07:34] <Crypto> unity wont start and X is stuck at 1024x768
[07:34] <Muscovy> It doesn't seem to acknowledge the space in front of it, nwg.
[07:34] <nwg> Muscovy: Then drag/drop the partition however you want, or enter sizes manually if you want.
[07:35] <Mathuin> So will the 'additional drivers' widget magically update when there's a new Nvidia driver, or do I have to do something special?
[07:35] <Grimdin> When should update-manager to show update to 10.10 is avail, cant see it yet
[07:35] <nwg> Muscovy: oh. hrm. Are extended partitions involved here in any way?
[07:35] <juk> deryl: Is it better to use pgp ir openssl for enryption signing etc.?
[07:35] <Muscovy> ...Yes they are, nwg.
[07:36] <Muscovy> I guess, worst case scenario I play data tetris and reinstall that machine.
[07:37] <Muscovy> The Maverick partition is too small currently.
[07:37] <nwg> Muscovy: If the space is not inside the extended partition, you have to drag the extended partition to fill it first, and then drag the inside partition into the new space.
[07:37] <KeithWeisshar> I'm having trouble installing the 64-bit version of Ubuntu, it freezes during installation when it says installing system
[07:37] <liquid> Grim in update manger settings change the update to normal release
[07:37] <Xeakin> The Cpu Fan when im on ubuntu works like crazy even if i have like no app runing, why is that?
[07:37] <KeithWeisshar> with the progress bar about 3/4 complete
[07:38] <stoopkit> Xeakin: what kind of computer do you have?
[07:38] <florian> hi
[07:38] <florian> i've got a big problem with pulseaudio
[07:38] <nwg> Muscovy: Although I know I've had issues with things being reported as "in use" even when they are unmounted.
[07:38] <Grimdin> liquid, ah, thats it, that fixed it, thx
[07:38] <KeithWeisshar> i'm unable to complete the installation of the 64-bit version of ubuntu
[07:38] <KeithWeisshar> it stalls about 80%
[07:38] <Muscovy> nwg: Ah, gotcha.
[07:38] <liquid> netime Grim :)
[07:38] <florian> i get this message if i try to record: pa_stream_connect_record() failed: No such entity
[07:38] <andriijas> t
[07:38] <florian> playback is no problem
[07:39] <Xeakin> stoopkit amd quadcore phenomx4 2.8, 4gb ram ati radeon 4800 hd
[07:39] <andriijas> why does do-release-upgrade say theres no new version to me?
[07:39] <woulfe> Ubuntu 10.10 64 Bit, New install, (Nvidia Geforce GT 240 ) Anyone know where to download driver
[07:39] <Muscovy> nwg: Thanks, I'll let it partition overnight. :D
[07:39] <Mathuin> woulfe: the Nvidia proprietary drivers have not been updated yet.
[07:40] <StunnedByNews> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Bill_Gates_Letter_to_Hobbyists.jpg
[07:40] <StunnedByNews> am i stealing
[07:40] <StunnedByNews> by using ubuntu
[07:40] <pete__> no
[07:40] <woulfe> @Mathuin is there anything that i can do to use the gt 240?
[07:40] <nwg> Muscovy: 'Welcome. I've done over-night partitioning myself before ^_^
[07:40] <KeithWeisshar> can you help me with the installation issue
[07:41] <StunnedByNews> but
[07:41] <StunnedByNews> it says it in his letter
[07:41] <plouffe> what's the name of 10.10? Is it perfect 10?
[07:41] <liquid> stunned: no u r not stealing, though with it u can
[07:41] <KeithWeisshar> i have a evga x58 3x sli motherboard with a core i7 cpu and 12gb of ram
[07:41] <Muscovy> nwg: Same. I once decided to fill up a 15 MB gap at the front of the drive. THAT was a fun 8 hours.
[07:41] <richardcavell> Evening all.  What's this about Ubuntu having social networking stuff on the desktop?  What do people think of it?  I need to know whether to make the upgrade.
[07:41] <KeithWeisshar> i'm having an issue with installation of the 64-bit version of ubuntu
[07:41] <StunnedByNews> but i am confused. ubuntu is a hobbyist ?OS?
[07:41] <Mathuin> woulfe: I am using my GeForce 880 (I think that's it) with the nouveau drivers and it's fine.
[07:41] <KeithWeisshar> the installation is very slow and often stalls
[07:41] <randomOfAmber> StunnedByNews: that's so old :P
[07:42] <PhrostyB> KeithWeisshar, i think it's slow too... but it's no big deal really
[07:42] <Mathuin> richardcavell: there's a panel applet that interfaces to chat, mail, and broadcast (think digg, twitter) accounts.
[07:42] <KeithWeisshar> i have checked the cd for defects and it says no errors found
[07:42] <StunnedByNews> but it is official document
[07:42] <StunnedByNews> i don't want to go to jail
[07:42] <Mathuin> woulfe: I can't play video games yet.
[07:42] <Muscovy> richardcavell: Ubuntu has chat and "microblogging" clients installed, as a more direct method of using the services than a browser.
[07:42] <woulfe> @Mathuin what is the nouveau driver?
[07:42] <randomOfAmber> StunnedByNews: lol, don't worry ;D
[07:42] <Mathuin> StunnedByNews: it's also older than three quarters of the people in this channel, I suspect.
[07:42] <Mathuin> !package nouveau
[07:42] <richardcavell> Muscovy: Is it like Twitterific on OS X?
[07:42] <StunnedByNews> well i just don't want to be around when the hammer drops if it does
[07:42] <Muscovy> richardcavell: They're particularly nice for alerts and so on.
[07:43] <randomOfAmber> StunnedByNews: you're not serious ..?
[07:43] <Muscovy> I'm afraid I don't know what Twitterific is.
[07:43] <KeithWeisshar> it stalls at about 80% at installing system
[07:43] <StunnedByNews> it is a real document
[07:43] <Muscovy> But I would guess it's like that.
[07:43] <Mathuin> woulfe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Nouveau
[07:43] <dxrt> randomofamber: He's trolling.
[07:43] <StunnedByNews> no i am not
[07:43] <StunnedByNews> i saw it in his biography
[07:43] <liquid>  /agree troll
[07:43] <StunnedByNews> bill gates wrote that
[07:43] <randomOfAmber> dxrt: yeah probably, xD.  I'm just too tired to notice >.<
[07:43] <KeithWeisshar> the installation gets stuck at around 80%
[07:43] <nwg> Muscovy: lol.  Also, I do my best to have my entire system in a single extended partition, although on the few computers that still have a bootable Windoze on them, those have to stay outside and then... things get complicated.
[07:43] <dxrt> StunnedByNews: So what?
[07:43] <fishscene1> I need to know ASAP what protocol is used for UBUNTU ONE. Is it using some kind of torrent protocol?
[07:44] <ejv> new question, i select a new wallpaper, and it doesn't fade in... why did it break? does this have something to do with applying the restricted drivers (that all worked completely in 10.04) ?
[07:44] <Jordan_U> fishscene1: No, it's centralized, probably http.
[07:44] <Muscovy> fishscene1: I _think_ it's just web.
[07:44] <Jordan_U> fishscene1: Why?
[07:44] <KeithWeisshar> due to a problem with installation, i had to boot the windows repair disc and run bootrec /fixmbr
[07:45] <woulfe> @Mathuin is there a way to install such a driver?
[07:45] <ejv> in fact, selecting wallpapers is completely fubar now... :(
[07:45] <fishscene1> Jordan_U. I'm getting denial of service and this typically only happens when my ISP throttles my traffic... however, I just went completely offline and I've been ransacking my network for the cause (TONS of traffic going to the internet, but no one could get online).
[07:45] <KeithWeisshar> the installation was stuck at installing system after it has already installed grub2
[07:45] <Mathuin> woulfe: it should be installed by default.  I didn't have to do anything special.  You can go to the synaptic package manager to check that it's installed.
[07:46] <pete__> what about this time out and re log in can you turn it of
[07:46] <KeithWeisshar> i need a fix for the 64-bit installation problem
[07:46] <fishscene1> There were no torrents running that we could determine and ironically, the person doing stuff on the internet was my computer. (cough). The only thing I can figure is Ubuntu One is syncing but I have no evidence to support this
[07:46] <Crypto> hrm, okay so what the heck has gone on with 10.10 not liking the intel GMA video cards
[07:47] <Jordan_U> KeithWeisshar: Try the alternate install CD.
[07:47] <Jordan_U> !alternate | KeithWeisshar
[07:47] <Crypto> aka 'the most popular netbook video chipset in the world'
[07:47] <fishscene1> Is there a way to tell what apps are doing what on the network?
[07:47] <popey> fishscene1: its http
[07:47] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/TechnicalDetails#General concepts
[07:48] <Crypto> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation System Controller Hub (SCH Poulsbo) Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[07:48] <fishscene1> excellent. I'll pour through that. But I'm kind of shooting in the dark here. lol.
[07:48] <KeithWeisshar> i have an evga x58 chipset motherboard with a core i7 920 cpu, geforce gtx 470 video card
[07:48] <Jordan_U> Crypto: Intel outsourced poulsbo to a company that refused to make open source drivers.
[07:48] <uLinux> no DVD version of Maverick?
[07:49] <Crypto> Jordan_U: oh, okay. is there a binary driver that works fine?
[07:49] <Jordan_U> Crypto: No, their binary driver doesn't work either.
[07:49] <Crypto> lol
[07:49] <KeithWeisshar> even booting from live cd is slow too
[07:49] <Crypto> 'doesnt work' ?
[07:50] <KeithWeisshar> the installation never finished, i had to reboot with alt-sysreq-b
[07:50] <Jack_D> Need a bit of help. Updated 10.04, and got the annoying 'gave up waiting for root device'. Suggestions to fix?
[07:50] <StunnedByNews> Keth, your computer specs are super
[07:50] <KeithWeisshar> and boot from the windows repair disc and run bootrec /fixmbr to restore the windows bootloader
[07:51] <Crypto> Jordan_U: so let me get this straight, the worlds most popular netbook video chipset, doesnt work at all, under a release of ubuntu specifically targeted at netbooks?
[07:51] <Jordan_U> Crypto: I guess it's better than I thought according to this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo/ but it's still abismal.
[07:52] <_paulofreitas> Just updated my Ubuntu Netbook Edition to 10.10. How I can change time format settings of clock menu?
[07:52] <KeithWeisshar> the installation stalls at the installing sytem phase and the hdd light only flashes once every two seconds
[07:52] <heizmann> hi everybody. I'm under karmic. Unable to use the "svn co" :-/ method to get the latest xbmc (I'm under karmic, firewall is disable)
[07:52] <nwg> O_o I'm trying to schedule apt-p2p to not run from like 8pm to 1am every day. I'm looking at the config file /etc/apt-p2p/apt-p2p.conf with a rather confused look on my face. I see "UPLOAD_LIMIT = 0", but I want to limit it based on time, not bandwith. Any help?
[07:52] <dxdemetriou> after upgrade to 10.10 my touchpad stop working. my laptop is lenovo t61
[07:52] <Mathuin> _paulofreitas: I don't know and I wish I did.  You can do it on normal Ubuntu, but not UNE.
[07:52] <Jordan_U> Crypto: Even Intel's own netbook distribution, meegoo (and previously moblin) doesn't support poulsbo.
[07:52] <Jack_D> Need a bit of help. Updated 10.04, and got the annoying 'gave up waiting for root device'. Suggestions to fix?
[07:52] <i_is_broke> KeithWeisshar: does the caps light and scroll light lock on too?
[07:52] <KeithWeisshar> no
[07:53] <_paulofreitas> Mathuin: Oh man! :|
[07:53] <i_is_broke> have you done a mem test?
[07:53] <KeithWeisshar> yes
[07:53] <Mathuin> _paulofreitas: I know!  I figure I'll try again in a week or so when the install rush settles down.
[07:53] <n00q4235423b> how to use /join?
[07:53] <n00q4235423b> it doesnt work for me
[07:53] <n00q4235423b> i wanna join<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:54] <Crypto> lol. I was hoping that my annual 'does linux work right yet' experiment would last longer than 6 hours
[07:54] <n00q4235423b> how do i do that
[07:54] <ubutu> im having some problems with kqemu
[07:54] <KeithWeisshar> is the new installer buggy
[07:54] <ubutu> aqrmu
[07:54] <n00q4235423b> anyone help 1
[07:54] <psycho_oreos> n00q4235423b, try /j #ape-project
[07:54] <Crypto> and lolol 4 of that was spent trying to get the USB key to boot :D
[07:54] <ubutu> aqemu
[07:54] <n00q4235423b> thanks psycho
[07:54] <Jack_D> Need a bit of help. Updated 10.04, and got the annoying 'gave up waiting for root device'. Suggestions to fix?
[07:54] <Crypto> back to linux on servers for me :D
 try /server irc.freenode.net then after : /join #ape-project :)
[07:54] <i_is_broke> KeithWeisshar: try installing the 10.04 and upgrading and see?
[07:55] <KeithWeisshar> i don't have the 10.04
[07:55] <KeithWeisshar> why bother with 10.04
[07:55] <i_is_broke> download it...lol
[07:55] <KeithWeisshar> i want a fix for the new 10.10 installer
[07:55] <KeithWeisshar> i want to see if someone can find out what the issue with the new 10.10 installer
[07:56] <PhrostyB> question... how do i open folders as root in nautilus? in linux mint i could just right click and hit open as administrator...
[07:56] <PhrostyB> how aobut in ubuntu?
[07:56] <juk> can anyone help me with postfix and openssl for signing,encrypting message
[07:56] <KeithWeisshar> even booting from live cd is slow
[07:56] <deryl> you explain the issue and you code a fix and submit it. show empirical evidence that the installer is the issue and exactly where the problem is
[07:56] <randomOfAmber> PhrostyB: in alt+f2 yoou can type 'gksu nautilus' to get a root nautilus window
[07:56] <Jack_D> Need a bit of help. Updated 10.04, and got the annoying 'gave up waiting for root device'. Suggestions to fix?
[07:57] <PhrostyB> oh ok cool thanks...
[07:57] <PhrostyB> no way to do it with the mouse?
[07:57] <randomOfAmber> PhrostyB: not that I know of, there might be an addon or plugin for nautilus you can install though :)
[07:57] <PhrostyB> hmmm
[07:57] <deryl> just saying its slow means and does nothing if you can't even pinpoint a specific point to start from. most of us here are on 10.10 and either did a fresh install or an upgrade (such as I did) and I've not seen anyone BUT you say the installer is slow
[07:57] <PhrostyB> good idea
[07:57] <prometheus5201> just installed Ubuntu Netbook 10.10 ... not able to figure out how to share files across computers on my network?
[07:58] <KeithWeisshar> the installer stalled in the later stage of the installation after grub was updated
[07:58] <nwg> Anyone know how to schedule apt-p2p to only run at certain times of the day?
[07:59] <Mathuin> prometheus5201: I couldn't see a graphical way to mount remote drives or anything, so I used the standard Ubuntu wiki pages to enable NFS and modify /etc/fstab.
[07:59] <Jack_D> Need a bit of help. Updated 10.04, and got the annoying 'gave up waiting for root device'. Suggestions to fix?
[07:59] <deryl> wow, i so knew there was a reason i was going to bed
[07:59] <KeithWeisshar> it stalled with the progress bar about 3/4 to the right
[07:59] <stoopkit> installer alternate = slow also
[07:59] <PhrostyB> Nautilus actions is an extension for Nautilus, the GNOME file manager. It allows the configuration of programs to be launched on files selected in the Nautilus interface.
[07:59] <prometheus5201> ty @ Mathuin .... i hope this changes in the future
[07:59] <randomOfAmber> PhrostyB: sounds about right... nothing about root though?
[08:00] <PhrostyB> doesn't seem like it :(
[08:00] <hexonxonx> I can get framebuffer if I do something like "sudo fbterm" but doing a grub line like "<kernel> vga=791" doesn't work, and instead gives me a lower resolution. Any ideas?
[08:00] <stoopkit> specially if something fails on a slow computer, then you're looking at a two hour install
[08:00] <heizmann> hi everybody. I'm under karmic. Unable to use the "svn co" :-/ method to get the latest xbmc (I'm under karmic, firewall is disable)
[08:00] <randomOfAmber> PhrostyB: hmm... where did linux mint get/make it?  I'm sure you could grab that version
[08:00] <PhrostyB> yea maybe
[08:01] <Jack_D> Updated 10.04, and got the annoying 'gave up waiting for root device'. Anyone have a suggestion to fix? It loads to busybox after awhile, but I have a LiveCD too.
[08:01] <hexonxonx> What does it mean when you can only get a framebuffer by doing "sudo fbterm" ?
[08:02] <MagicJ> I would like to make a bootable/live CD from my running config, is that possible?
[08:02] <randomOfAmber> MagicJ: like remastersys?
[08:03] <DjAngo23> I'm looking for an UML with PHP support, on Linux. Any ideas ?
[08:03] <MagicJ> randomOfAmber:  I don't know, that is why I asked the question, what is rematersys?
[08:03] <PhrostyB> not sure where to find it randomOfAmber
[08:03] <randomOfAmber> MagicJ: I'm pretty sure it's exactly what you want.  to make a backup and use it as an installer?
[08:03] <mobasher> DjAngo23=>> try ##php
[08:04] <MagicJ> sounds perfect - where do I find it?
[08:04] <replicasex> Hey all.
[08:04] <DjAngo23> mobasher, Already askes ;)
[08:04] <DjAngo23> asked.
[08:04] <richardcavell> Anyone here using 10.10 on a Mac?
[08:04] <richardcavell> I'm on a second-gen MacBook with Intel GMA 945
[08:04] <mobasher> DjAngo23=>> what you need in php ? have you installed it ?
[08:04] <randomOfAmber> MagicJ: here: http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/ you'll need to burn your iso or use the startup disc creator to put it on a flash drive
[08:04] <Ryen> !anyone | richardcavell
[08:05] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone tried 10.10 yet?
[08:05] <linux_is_my_hero> im pretty happy with 9.10 :-D
[08:05] <heizmann> hi everybody. I'm under karmic. Unable to use the "svn co" :-/ method to get the latest xbmc (I'm under karmic, firewall is disable) please... :-/
[08:05] <nebula> help
[08:05] <nebula>  disabled on upgrade to maverick
[08:05] <replicasex> I have a question about installing from a USB flash drive.  I have a 2gb cheapie flash stick that I made into a startup disc but my BIOS doesn't seem to want to boot from it.  It doesn't list USB Media as a choice in the boot order list, even though it's a very new computer.  Any thoughts?
[08:05] <nebula> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/linuxfreedommaverick/ubuntu
[08:05] <nebula> ?
[08:05] <hexonxonx> What is the reason for only root being able to access framebuffer?
[08:05] <prometheus5201> clicking authenticate on Ubuntu Netbook 10.10 does nothing... it just hangs there....any suggestions?
[08:06] <ylmfos>
[08:06] <randomOfAmber> replicasex: try it on another computer to rule out the flash drive being the problem?
[08:06] <Gwar> So, how does one remove the graphical splash screen when booting to just display the text? I don't care what it looks like when booting and I prefer to see what is wrong if something does go wrong! :P
[08:06] <nwg> I need to schedule apt-p2p to only run at certain times of the day. How can I do this?
[08:06] <richardcavell> I have an Intel GMA945 on a second-gen MacBook.  Support for it has been flakey on Ubuntu, but it is improving.  Can anyone vouch for 10.10 on an Intel GMA chipset?
[08:06] <DjAngo23> mobasher,  No, you didn't understand me, i just said i already asked #php.
[08:06] <randomOfAmber> Gwar: maybe an option in grub (people in #grub would know)
[08:06] <replicasex> randomOfAmber, the only other computer I have on hand is very old, almost certainly not supporting USB booting.
[08:07] <mobasher> DjAngo23=>> yea i got that part what I was asking what kind of support are you looking for ?
[08:07] <asfjio> hello, is there a java documentation application that runs on ubuntu, gnome?
[08:07] <rww> Gwar: edit /etc/default/grub and remove the quiet and splash options from the relevant line, save, run "sudo update-grub"
[08:07] <randomOfAmber> replicasex: do you have gparted installed? you could use that to check that your flash drive has the 'boot' flag enabled
[08:07] <Zliq_mishokk> I want to run one hentai game... is it possible under Ubuntu?
[08:07] <liquid> Gwar: edit as rww has instrcted
[08:07] <Gwar> rww:  thank you
[08:08] <suigeneris> reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 <--- what does this mean?
[08:08] <nwg> Zliq_mishokk: If you use Wine, probably.
[08:08] <mobasher> Zliq_mishokk=>> were you able to run that in windows ??
[08:09] <hexonxonx> Does anyone know why I can only access framebuffer as root?
[08:09] <replicasex> randomOfAmber, yes, it does have the boot flag, as well as Iba
[08:09] <Gwar> rww: liquid: I see a GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" line, do I remove the "quiet splash" or can I just comment out the line or what? xD
[08:10] <Zliq_mishokk> yeah
[08:10] <Zliq_mishokk> i were able to run it in Windows
[08:10] <replicasex> randomOfAmber, I don't think the flash drive is the problem, I just don't know how to get my computer to boot from it.
[08:10] <Zliq_mishokk> but with wine there's no subs
[08:10] <Zliq_mishokk> and crash xD
[08:10] <rww> Gwar: change it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
[08:10] <liquid> Gwar: remove the "quiet splash"...leave the rest and finish as rww suggested
[08:10] <mobasher> hexonxonx=>> try http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/3393-how-set-up-framebuffer-part-1-a.html
[08:11] <mobasher> Zliq_mishokk=>> try WinhQ -> http://www.winehq.org/
[08:11] <mobasher> Zliq_mishokk=>> well that's your best bet :)
[08:11] <randomOfAmber> replicasex: hmm... I don't know.  what kind of bios do you have? have you booted a flash drive before with it?
[08:11] <qetuR> hej! i have a problem, my network-manager icon in the tray says im disconnected, even if im connected, im using a Acer TimelineX with wireless
[08:11] <Zliq_mishokk> ok thanks!   And no, I haven't done this before.  I usually go by CD/DVD but the only DVD I have is a bit manky and I'd rather not trust it to boot.
[08:12] <Gwar> thanks all!
[08:12] <PhrostyB> hey randomOfAmber i figured it out
[08:12] <PhrostyB> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/how-to-open-files-as-root-via-a-right-click/
[08:12] <randomOfAmber> PhrostyB: awesome, thanks for the link ^^
[08:12] <PhrostyB> np
[08:13] <PhrostyB> no need for mint now :P
[08:13] <replicasex> randomOfAmber, it gives me a 'floppy group' (lawl) but no USB entry for the boot order list.
[08:13] <prometheus5201> 20 minutes in and i have over 213 bugs to report regarding Ubuntu Netbook 10.10 ... they should have not taken this out of beta this early :(
[08:13] <PhrostyB> since you can install non-free repos in ubuntu immediately
[08:13] <DjAngo23> mobasher, Well, i just needed to know if there was a good UML for PHP, but if I have to ask a #php, then I will ask their ;)
[08:13] <randomOfAmber> replicasex: and this is a new(er) computer?
[08:13] <replicasex> randomOfAmber, less than a year old.
[08:14] <mobasher> DjAngo23=>> well you can try "UMLet" not sure what it contains check the package out
[08:14] <randomOfAmber> replicasex: hmm, well sometimes there'll be a 'choose boot device' menu (f12 on dells), and a 'setup' menu (f2 on dells)
[08:14] <hexonxonx> Is there a way to specify using VESA as a framebuffer in GRUB's menu.lst?
[08:14] <Crypto> okay, 10.10 is now installed, trying to install the poulsbo drivers now
[08:14] <lsrline> Anyone having trouble with multitouch with the Apple Trackpad?
[08:14] <randomOfAmber> replicasex: you can change it long term with the setup menu if you can't find it in the other menu (then just change it back when you're done)
[08:15] <replicasex> randomOfAmber, yes there's a boot menu on mine, but I don't want to switch what I boot *from* do I?  I want to install the OS onto my HDD, not try to run an OS from the flash drive.
[08:15] <KayAteChef> since I allowed an update gnome has been misbehaving
[08:15] <mobasher> DjAngo23=>> there is also "umbrello" not sure if that will help you..if you are looking for code generator or something
[08:16] <KayAteChef> especially whenever I use mplayer
[08:16] <randomOfAmber> replicasex: well yes, but you can switch it (boot flash drive first, then hdd). then install it, then switch it back
[08:16] <shawncm217> my mouse flakes out under 10.10. the click event just stops working after a while. occurred on both in-place upgrade and fresh install.
[08:17] <mobasher> DjAngo23=>> also check dia2code
[08:17] <replicasex> randomOfAmber, i'm rather afraid it will irreparably  harm my system if I switch it out ... so if I tell it to boot form there (assuming it shows) then it will still install to my HDD?
[08:20] <jmazaredo> is pdt pst in date?
[08:20] <jmazaredo> same?
[08:20] <Jordan_U> replicasex: Is it the DVD drive that's bad or the disk? Do you have an OS installed currently?
[08:20] <replicasex> Jordan_U, I don't think anything is 'bad' at all.  It just isn't showing up in the regular boot order list so I haven't been able to use it to install 10.10
[08:21] <Jordan_U> replicasex: I meant your comment "the only DVD I have is a bit manky".
[08:21] <replicasex> Jordan_U, oh, yes, it's the disc that's a bit degraded.
[08:22] <peepsalot> how can i configure individual compiz effects?
[08:23] <replicasex> peepsalot, do you have the compiz configurations manager installed?
[08:23] <mobasher> peepsalot=>> install compiz config manager
[08:23] <fishscene> you can search for "ccsm" in the ubuntu store
[08:23] <tyvoe> hello
[08:23] <randomOfAmber> replicasex: yes, it will ask you and you can install it on your hdd.  usually boot menus are by priority as well, so it would boot the flash drive if it was there... then the hdd (if you never switched it nack)
[08:23] <soreau> ! ccsm | peepsalot
[08:24] <peepsalot> ok thanks
[08:24] <Agent001> Hi, can I upgrade from ubuntu 10.04 lts to 10.10 without reformatting?
[08:24] <Jordan_U> Agent001: Yes.
[08:24] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Agent001
[08:24] <soreau> Agent001: gksu update-manager
[08:25] <replicasex> Agent001, yes, go into the update manager and make sure you have 'regular releases' selected
[08:25] <Agent001> It wont delete all my files right?
[08:25] <replicasex> Agent001, nope.
[08:25] <soreau> Agent001: no
[08:25] <Agent001> k great!
[08:25] <replicasex> Agent001, of course you should back up just in case ...
[08:25] <Jordan_U> soreau: gksu is not needed (the password will be asked for when you actually choose to upgrade).
[08:25] <soreau> indeed, never a bad idea to backup
[08:25] <replicasex> randomOfAmber, to be honest, I updated earlier today.  Feels a bit more sluggish than it used to, that's why I'm thinking of doing a fresh install.
[08:26] <randomOfAmber> replicasex: good plan, fresh installs are the BEST
[08:26] <soreau> Jordan_U: Ah ok. Kinda like gdebi (oh I really miss gdebi after seeing software center)
[08:26] <soreau> Where art thou, gdebi?
[08:26] <Agent001> my update manager doesn't list 10.10 upgrade
[08:26] <Jordan_U> soreau: You can still use gdebi.
[08:27] <soreau> Agent001: Try 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && update-manager -d'
[08:27] <soreau> Jordan_U: Thanks ghad
[08:27] <ramanK> Hi there . I've downloaded Ubuntu10.10 Netbook Edition and used the StartUp Disk Creator for creating a live USB . but when it boots it shows:" Syslinux 3.63 Debian Copyright 2008 Unknown Keyword in configuration file . boot: " and does nothing . what should I do?
[08:27] <soreau> Jordan_U: I'll look it up
[08:27] <replicasex> randomOfAmber, I'm just worried it's more trouble than it's worth, lol.  So when I switch to the boot, and I get the regular install screen will it be showing the HDD drive or the flash stick itself ?
[08:27] <Jordan_U> soreau: In fact I think it's still included by default.
[08:27] <andriijas> how do i update ubuntu server to 10.10? do-release-upgrade says no new version
[08:27] <replicasex> Agent001, did you select regular updates instead of only LTS?
[08:27] <soreau> Jordan_U: Unless it's under a different binary name, it isn't
[08:27] <Jordan_U> soreau: The "-d" isn't needed now that it's released :)
[08:27] <soreau> Jordan_U: Well you'd think
[08:28] <Agent001> I went to System -> Administrative -> Update manager
[08:29] <replicasex> Agent001, to settings
[08:29] <replicasex> then 'update'
[08:29] <ramanK> how busy is here! Hi there . I've downloaded Ubuntu10.10 Netbook Edition and used the StartUp Disk Creator for creating a live USB . but when it boots it shows:" Syslinux 3.63 Debian Copyright 2008 Unknown Keyword in configuration file . boot: " and does nothing . what should I do?
[08:29] <soreau> Jordan_U: Yea, fyi you have to install it *wonders if software center can be removed*
[08:29] <Jordan_U> soreau: Of course it can.
[08:29] <soreau> that software center is *slow* when it tried to take over installing a deb package for me
[08:29] <Xenophilius> Hello everyone
[08:29] <soreau> pretty ridiculous
[08:30] <randomOfAmber> replicasex: it will ask you.  if you see ___ GB and ___ GB and one of them's like 4 GB then that's probably your flash drive.  it shows the brand names (like pny, western digital) too I think
[08:30] <soreau> Also I found a bug
[08:30] <replicasex> randomOfAmber, ok well i'm going to go try :P  if I come back from my old computer shouting my head off, I'll know who to yell at first :P
[08:30] <Agent001> thanks replica, i got it to work
[08:30] <randomOfAmber> replicasex: good plan :P
[08:31] <Plexion> hi, i just installed 10.10 on my netbook, and i am having a problem where whenever an authentication dialog appears, and after i punched in my password and click authenticate, the password field disappears and the dialog just stays there =(
[08:31] <soreau> Firefox->find some deb d/l 2) open with default (sw center) 3) Close firefox 4) Watch software center fail because the deb package is now deleted from /tmp
[08:31] <frankbro> Is there a way to remove the update description in update manage?
[08:31] <randomOfAmber> soreau: let's kill it: https://bugs.launchpad.net
[08:31] <soreau> randomOfAmber: Nah, I don't support ubuntu directly
[08:31] <lyserg_> how come it says there is no new release when I do "sudo do-release-upgrade" on my 10.04 server? :)
[08:31] <ramanK> nobody cares me ?!
[08:32] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | lyserg_
[08:32] <Plexion> any idea for my issue?
[08:32] <liquid> soreau: change the default d/l location in firefox->Edit->Preferences
[08:32] <oetzi> hi everybody I have problems sending facebook-messages via empathy since upgrading to 10.10
[08:32] <soreau> ramanK: check the md5sum of your image you downloaded and double check the sum after it's on the usb stick
[08:32] <Agent001> are there much improvement on 10.10?
[08:32] <soreau> liquid: It's not my bug
[08:33] <soreau> liquid: It's everyone's bug (ie. default behavior shouldn't be buggy)
[08:33] <lyserg_> thanks Jordan_U
[08:33] <ramanK> soreau: where is the MD5sums of images . I couldn't find them on download page
[08:34] <lemmy> Hi, I've just successfully upgrade to Maverick. Thanks again for a smooth upgrade. :) Only thing is, that ipconfig (spawned by dropbear) permanently causes 100% cpu load. Any hints?
[08:34] <soreau> ramanK: I don't know the answer to that
[08:34] <ramanK> soreau: thanks , I'll look for them
[08:35] <liquid> ram: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/MD5SUMS
[08:35] <soreau> lemmy: ipconfig doesn't seem to be installed by default.. so, get rid of it?
[08:35] <DraZoro> While working on LTSP....Is it possible to build clients off line "ltsp-build-client" ?
[08:35] <Plexion> anyone have any idea with my authentication dialog issue on 10.10? =/
[08:35] <doug-> test
[08:36] <fishscene> plexion, could you describe your issue?
[08:37] <Muscovy> Has anyone had Gwibber issues? I can't get mine to connect, it just pinwheels.
[08:37] <lemmy> soreau: but which package contains ipconfig??
[08:37] <llutz_> !find ipconfig | lemmy
[08:37]  * DraZoro join #ltsp
[08:38] <eglue> that must be ifconfig
[08:38] <soreau> lemmy: klibc-utils
[08:38] <suigeneris> what does "Device offlined - not ready after error recovery" mean when I plugin a USB hdd?
[08:38] <adyb> hi. I want to install unbuntu on my computer but I have a Marvell 88SE61xx raid card and when I hit install I don't see my hard drivers :( can someone help me with this issue ? thanks
[08:38] <Plexion> fishscene: ok, i just installed 10.10 on a hp-mini 210, where it requires some proprietary broadcom drivers, so i would install them using the additional drivers tool. whenever i tried to install, and an authentication dialog pops out, and after i keyed in my password, the password field disappears and the dialog stays there, stucked
[08:39] <lemmy> soreau: well, it is an initramsfs dependency. Sure it can be removed?
[08:39] <soreau> lemmy: Are you sure you're using ubuntu 10.10?
[08:39] <Lanks> any ideas why when I install something with ubuntu using apt or synaptic it asks me to insert the ubuntu disk? can I stop this?
[08:39] <nickhtp> Lanks: uncheck the 9 or 10 cdrom:/// box
[08:40] <soreau> lemmy: Oh yes you need that
[08:40] <fishscene> plexion: I'm experiencing the same issue on my 10.10 x64 fresh install. I have a workaround. Click the "X" button on the authentication dialog box after you type in your password. It should proceed normally.
[08:40] <randomOfAmber> Lanks: in System > Administration > Software Sources you can set where you want to get software from
[08:40] <soreau> lemmy: Typically when a user app is using a lot of resources, it's a driver issue
[08:40] <Lanks> randomOfAmber: ok thank you
[08:40] <suigeneris> why do I get No new release found when I try do-release upgrade?
[08:40] <randomOfAmber> Lanks: np
[08:40] <Plexion> fishscene: for the additional drivers installation, seems like it doesn't work, and ends with an error after i clicked X
[08:40]  * nickhtp noticed an update-initramfs -c -k issue today.......
[08:41] <soreau> lemmy: What is telling you ipconfig is using all processor power?
[08:41] <lemmy> soreau: top
[08:41] <fishscene> Plexion: Bummer. I guess we'll have to submit a bug report. Although I'm not sure how..
[08:41] <liquid> Sui: check ur Update Manager settings, under update tab, change to normal releases
[08:41] <soreau> lemmy: Have you tried killing ipconfig?
[08:41] <fishscene> !bug | fishscene
[08:41] <LaciStrike> tyvoe
[08:42] <Plexion> fishscene: apparently i saw this issue dated back to v8 on the forums
[08:42] <Plexion> without solutions
[08:42] <lemmy> soreau: killing works fine but it's there again after next reboot.
[08:42] <krzyhoo> any Printer Sharung experts here? (printer in Ubuntu, WIndows 7 should use it)
[08:42] <fishscene> v8?
[08:42] <JKL_> do i need x when using vmbuilder?
[08:42] <soreau> lemmy: none of my machines show ipconfig running after booted. Perhaps you should file a bug
[08:42] <Plexion> version 8 of ubuntu
[08:42] <suigeneris> why do I get No new release found when I try do-release upgrade?
[08:43] <blakkheim> !repeat | suigeneris
[08:43] <Plexion> anyone else have any idea regarding the authentication dialog issue?
[08:43] <Xenophilius> blakk
[08:43] <liquid> suigeneris, System->Admin->Update Manager->settings->update, at bottm change the update release setting
[08:44] <Xenophilius> When did you see him post for the second time?
[08:44] <fishscene> Does anyone know the name of the package that is used when authenticating? My issue is the same as Plexion's
[08:44] <blakkheim> Xenophilius: scroll up
[08:44] <blakkheim> it was less than 2 minutes before that one
[08:44] <Xenophilius> blakkheim: i did, he waited for a responce and answered again after a=quite a while
[08:44] <nickhtp> Plexion: make sure you have the correct auth entry it's in the x:GDM:y path
[08:44] <Xenophilius> response*
[08:45] <liquid> suigeneris, ur update manager is only looking to LTS versions...change to normal release and ur golden
[08:45] <Plexion> nickhtp: i am sorry, but i don't understand that
[08:45] <suigeneris> liquid thanks
[08:45] <Xenophilius> Liquid?!
[08:45] <Xenophilius> XD
[08:45] <liquid> netime suigeneris
[08:45] <Gnurdux> is there no way to downgrade X in ubuntu?
[08:46] <Solid_Snake> Lol LIQUID?!
[08:46] <krzyhoo> why can't i configure a Ubuntu Printer under Windows 7? In Samba the Workgroup name is correwct, Ubuntu sees my windows computer, but not the other way around
[08:46] <Solid_Snake> Come on say "Brother!"
[08:46] <GuyForget> Hi.. I'm installing 10.10 on a system with intel i3, using intel's GMA graphics. It works fine on the live image, but I cannot get X to start after I've finished installing.
[08:46] <Solid_Snake> :P MGS nerd = ,e
[08:46] <Solid_Snake> me**
[08:46] <suigeneris> now I get a bunch of 403 errors liquid
[08:47] <llutz_> krzyhoo: theres no need for samba. just make cups announcing printers to the network and allow remote access
[08:47] <krzyhoo> llutz_ and how do i do that?
[08:47] <llutz_> krzyhoo: windows can use those printers since XP
[08:47] <djemi> zd
[08:47] <llutz_> krzyhoo: look at the forums/wiki, theres a howto
[08:47] <JKL_> trying to install kvm guest. any idea what goes wrong here: http://pastebin.org/134413
[08:47] <GuyForget> I'm not sure how I can see what is going on differently between the livecd and the installation to figure out why X won't start.
[08:48] <krzyhoo> if you mean the Policies Setup, i did that already
[08:48] <djemi> hello
[08:48] <krzyhoo> checked all three options
[08:48] <Solid_Snake> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer -- it says its safe but i hear bad things about it -- when they updated it did they fix those problems?
[08:48] <lemmy> soreau: I regenerated initramfs but changed /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf DEVICE to "lo". Seems to solve my problem.
[08:48] <mekwall> Hmm... I could use some consulting. I got three servers, two web servers and one db server. Currently they are running CentOS which I really dislike (and know nothing about). I would like to set up some kind of virtual environment or cloud setup. What do you guys recommend?
[08:49] <llutz_> krzyhoo: in windows you have to use http://your-cups-machine:631/printers/PRINTERNAME as URI (iirc)
[08:49] <soreau> lemmy: sounds hairy. glad you got it fixed ;)
[08:49] <krzyhoo> did that to
[08:49] <krzyhoo> though with computer name, not ip
[08:50] <Xenophilius> >	http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer -- it says its safe but i hear bad things about it -- when they updated it did they fix those problems? -- sorry for the second post i wasnt sure if you got it
[08:50] <krzyhoo> llutz_: does it make a difference? (am at work, can't test it)
[08:50] <adyb> hi. I want to install unbuntu on my computer but I have a Marvell 88SE61xx raid card and when I hit install I don't see my hard drivers :( can someone help me with this issue ? thanks
[08:50] <dguggi> ping juven
[08:51] <llutz_> krzyhoo: shouldn't make a difference if your dns works correct
[08:51] <krzyhoo> i mean, usually I sould be ablle to reacha computer just by its name
[08:51] <krzyhoo> llutz_: what about firewall? is it on by default for 631? (didn't make any changes)
[08:51] <Xenophilius> Anyone
[08:51] <Xenophilius> please
[08:52] <Milosz> how do I update to the final release from the RC?
[08:52] <Milosz> just update or dist-upgrade or something else?
[08:52] <llutz_> krzyhoo: theres no "firewall" by default
[08:52] <shutyaev> hello everybody. yesterday I've installed ubuntu 10.10 (desktop i386) and there's some problem with dhcp client I think. I have both ethernet and wifi adapter and neither of them recieves address via DHCP but delivers inet successfully once I manually configure it
[08:52] <Milosz> shutyaev, did it work in 10.04?
[08:53] <rww> !final | Milosz
[08:53] <Milosz> thanks rww
[08:53] <Milosz> so I'm up to date
[08:54] <TunnelSnakes> Anyone know if there is TRIM support for ubuntu? I have an OCZ Vertex Series SSD 30GB that I bought from Newegg.
[08:54] <krzyhoo> llutz_: than there has to be an issue with W7
[08:54] <lapion> hello
[08:54] <TunnelSnakes> hi
[08:54] <Xenophilius> >	http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer -- it says its safe but i hear bad things about it -- when they updated it did they fix those problems?
[08:54] <Romance> how to enable Infrared in ubuntu?
[08:54] <lapion> I have been trying to bypass the double blacklisting of i855 chipset..
[08:54] <krzyhoo> llutz_: somehow i just can't manage to install it
[08:55] <llutz_> krzyhoo: maybe, i'm not very fmailiar with win so i can't help you there
[08:55] <shutyaev> Milosz, well actually I first tried ubuntu a couple of days ago and yes - at first it worked in 10.04 ok, but then another time I booted (not changing anything in confs) my connections were disabled (had to reenable them rightclicking in gnome) and after that dhcp stopped working too
[08:55] <lapion> you see as of recently i855 driver has been blacklisted in kernel as well as in xorg-core.
[08:55] <Milosz> TunnelSnakes, it's in the kernel since 1 or 2 versions
[08:55] <Romance> how to enable Infrared in ubuntu?
[08:55] <krzyhoo> llutz_: i have no choice: my wife bought herself a VAIO and want's only a W7
[08:55] <Milosz> TunnelSnakes, don't take my word for it but I am rather sure the kernel that ships with Maverick supports TRIM
[08:55] <peepsalot> my cowsay udder cow file was removed during maverick upgrade, this is a travesty
[08:56] <lapion> and then no amount of i915 kms enable settings work to enable kms for i915 on i855
[08:56] <llutz_> krzyhoo: it's not a trick.... :( my wife has a vaio too
[08:56] <wolfric> would it be bad if i shutdown about 30% of upgrading  10.04 to 10.10
[08:56] <wolfric> in the middle of "installing the upgrades"
[08:56] <lapion> the only thing that works is not installing the latest xorg-core update
[08:56] <Xenophilius> OMG please answer my question
[08:56] <Xenophilius> >	http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer -- it says its safe but i hear bad things about it -- when they updated it did they fix those problems?
[08:56] <iYassin> Hi
[08:56] <thter> can anyone tell me how to recover data from a microsd card that you have formatted?
[08:57] <iYassin> guys anybody knows how to use dual monitors on ubuntu 10.10
[08:57] <dogmatic69> iYassin: system->preferences->monitors
[08:57] <lapion> iYassin, here
[08:58] <shutyaev> yesterday I've installed ubuntu 10.10 (desktop i386) and there's some problem with dhcp client I think. I have both ethernet and wifi adapter and neither of them recieves address via DHCP but delivers inet successfully once I manually configure it
[08:58] <krzyhoo> llutz_: my wife won't change her mind. Windows is Windows and i just hate the new legacy cr*p. I mean in XP you could find womething, in 7 them made it sure, you find nothing
[08:58] <replicasex> randomOfAmber, howdy, worked like a charm :P
[08:58] <sedulous> thter: try "scalpel"
[08:58] <randomOfAmber> replicasex: pro, so you're on a clean install now?
[08:58] <replicasex> randomOfAmber, yup.  Doing all the normal stuff.  That nice chunk of code that installs java, etc etc didn't work for me though.
[08:59] <replicasex> Did it through the software center, seems ok.
[08:59] <randomOfAmber> replicasex: what nice chunk of code o.O?
[08:59] <ningbojoe>  /msg NickServ identify ningbojoe
[08:59] <replicasex> randomOfAmber, on the ubuntu forums regarding multimedia.
[08:59] <randomOfAmber> replicasex: ahh, that's odd
[08:59] <randomOfAmber> replicasex: welcome back anyway
[08:59] <Romance> how to enable Infrared in ubuntu?
[08:59] <replicasex> randomOfAmber, yeah, I didn't elect to install mp3 playback because I normally just do that >_>
[08:59] <Xenophilius> Can someone please answer my question for the Fourth time now
[08:59] <Xenophilius> >	http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer -- it says its safe but i hear bad things about it -- when they updated it did they fix those problems?
[08:59] <FloodBot4> Xenophilius: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:59] <facelessloser> anyone having troble upgrading to 10.10?
[08:59] <Xenophilius> -_-
[09:00] <Romance> how to enable Infrared in ubuntu?
[09:00] <krzyhoo> llutz_: another one for you? Any experinece with setting up a printer like HP LJ 2010dn under ubuntu? It's a printer with a built in printserver. My mum got a virus on her shiny windows system and i plan on to switch her to Linux.   It's pretty nice, especially with the 'breadcrumbs' enabled.
[09:01] <Xenophilius> i have asked a question like 4 or 5 times and people REFUSE to respond
[09:01] <llutz_> krzyhoo: or is that one of those .... GDI /hostbased thingies?
[09:02] <RealOpty> how can i make my own keyboard model profile?
[09:02] <Xenophilius> >	http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer -- it says its safe but i hear bad things about it -- when they updated it did they fix those problems?
[09:02] <Xenophilius> PLEASE
[09:02] <FloodBot4> Xenophilius: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:02] <PhrostyB>  i think i just put my gnome themes into /themes/ instead of /.themes/ lol
[09:02] <rww> Xenophilius: In my opinion, it still sucks.
[09:02] <PhrostyB> any way to undo?
[09:02] <replicasex> Xenophilius, do you mean wubi?
[09:02] <Xenophilius> Yes
[09:02] <rww> replicasex: yes
[09:02] <liam> any ideas how to change this? "linux-headers-2.6.32-24-generic-pae set to manually installed."
[09:02] <fishscene> Plexion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/658163
[09:04] <Xenophilius> And why in your opinion does it still suck? And  my damn WinMD5Sum keeps telling me the ISO's sum is different
[09:04] <krzyhoo> llutz_: thanks mate. you seem to know a lot about Printing :)
[09:04] <mekwall> Is Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud some kind of platform for virtualization?
[09:04] <sorsis> HELP! depency problem with java 6 x64 jre on 10.10!
[09:04] <Plexion> thanks fishscene
[09:04] <llutz_> krzyhoo: not really, i just have a similar setup at home :) (hp 2100n + wifes xp-vaio )
[09:05] <fishscene> Plexion: Hopefully you can add your own comments and stuff too :)
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> mekwall: basically, yeah
[09:05] <soreau> When I scroll on volume, it moves about 5% each time. Is there a way to control this?
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> soreau: doubt it :(
[09:05] <sco> Jordan_U: if ur still there, i Think i have a Live CD and a grub cd
[09:05] <mekwall> tonyyarusso, so if I have only one physical machine, I can still install multiple virtual machines? And then add more physical machines to this "cloud" ? :)
[09:05] <suigeneris> what does "Device offlined - not ready after error recovery" mean when I plugin a USB hdd?
[09:05] <soreau> tonyyarusso: I remember seeing it somewhere but ca't find it now
[09:06] <krzyhoo> llutz_: no way. thats a coincident :)
[09:06] <krzyhoo> llutz_: are you from germany?
[09:06] <llutz_> krzyhoo: i am
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> mekwall: You could, yes.  Basically it replicates what Amazon AWS does.
[09:06] <krzyhoo> llutz_: am Polish, but live in germany as well :D
[09:07] <mekwall> tonyyarusso, ok... that sounds what I'm looking for! I need virtual/physical machines to be transparent to eachother... Basically, run one virtual machines over many physical, or the other way around :)
[09:07] <rcsheetsKRC> i have just installed gdm, but i can't find gdm.conf. where do i configure gdm?
[09:07] <mekwall> tonyyarusso, do you have experience with setting it up? And if so, how does it compare with ... say vmware or xen?
[09:08] <Inferus> morning
[09:09] <WXZ> I set up a bunch of cronjobs in gnome-scheduler, and I don't know where they are
[09:09] <Nepherius> hmm usualy when i minimize apps like xchat or messenger it only shows the icon on the pannel and not the whole window name , any idea how I add that option ?:)
[09:09] <Nepherius> just installed maverick and seems i dont have that on the pannel
[09:09] <WXZ> !crontab > WXZ
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> mekwall: I don't yet, no.  It's another layer beyond what vmware and xen do.  It uses KVM at its base to do the same thing they do, virtualize machines, and then puts magic on top to virtualize the stuff machines provide - storage and computation.
[09:10] <liquid> rcsheetsKRC, r u looking for gconf-editor?
[09:10] <rcsheetsKRC> liquid: i'm not sure... I wish to enable GDM to listen for local XDMCP connections. the x11vnc docs say this should be in gdm.conf.
[09:11] <kenneth> How to install ubuntu server with EFI and GPT? Any pointers?
[09:11] <peepsalot> i used to be able to take a screenshot of a single window, using ctrl-prtscrn (or maybe it was alt).  it doesn't seem to be working after upgrade, i tried all the modifier keys.  only pressing prtscrn by itself takes a screenshot of the whole screen
[09:11] <sauerbraten> can someone tell me if it's possible to completely delete windows, if I install ubuntu via wubi.exe? ubuntu gets installed into the windows partition then, right? Because I want to get rid of windows :D
[09:11] <mekwall> tonyyarusso, Ok. Thanks alot for the info :) I guess it's worth a try! Do you know anything about it performance-wise? For example, xen has 97% cpu utilization due to its low level implementation with dom0 kernel. I have never tried KVM so don't know anything about it yet ;)
[09:12] <peepsalot> i wonder if it has to do with enabling compiz
[09:12] <suigeneris> what does "Device offlined - not ready after error recovery" mean when I plugin a USB hdd?
[09:12] <Jibadeeha> think i am going to upgrade to ubuntu 10.10 today and probably now is the best time to use encrypted home directories ... does this support swap as well or is that still separate?
[09:12] <soreau> peepsalot: Do you have ccsm>Gnome Compatibility enabled? (and screenshot set inside of the plugin)
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> mekwall: KVM's a hardware-layer implementation as well, so it should be similar if not better.
[09:14] <peepsalot> soreau, yeah, for some reason it just won't register the combo of alt-prtscrn.  i went into the gnome hotkey settings and remapped it to ctrl-prtscrn and it works fine now
[09:14] <WXZ> where are gnome schedule tasks stored?
[09:14] <mekwall> tonyyarusso, Thanks to you I now know "enough" to make it worth its while to test it out - if you'd like I can come back to you when/if I get it to work
[09:14] <viewer> i'm trying to set up rtorrent to run as an invisible daemon with 'screen' and to have it launch automatically on bootup.  i made a init.d script that did 'screen -dmt "torrents" rtorrent' but it doesnt actually start processing until i connect to the screen with 'screen -RD'.  any idea why?
[09:15] <sauerbraten> can someone tell me if it's possible to completely delete windows, if I install ubuntu via wubi.exe? ubuntu gets installed into the windows partition then, right? Because I want to get rid of windows :D
[09:15] <shutyaev> yesterday I've installed ubuntu 10.10 (desktop i386) and there's some problem with dhcp client I think. I have both ethernet and wifi adapter and neither of them recieves address via DHCP but delivers inet successfully once I manually configure it
[09:15] <WXZ> sauerbraten: why don't you just delete the windows partition?
[09:16] <replicasex> sauerbraten, nope, it installs side by side.  Create a DVD or a USB with the .iso download.
[09:16] <yofel_> shutyaev: do you get an error if you run 'sudo dhclient' by hand?
[09:16] <sauerbraten> mhmh ok thank you replicasex
[09:16] <replicasex> sauerbraten, then pop USB/DVD in and follow along and select 'erase entire disc' of course this will erase windows and all the data there
[09:17] <shutyaev> yofel_, I get NODHCP offers received.
[09:17] <tc__> I'm using distcc on a i386 system and want to use an x86_64 buildslave, I get the following error "/usr/bin/ld: i386:x86-64 architecture of input file `.libs/parser.o' is incompatible with i386 output", how can I make this work?
[09:17] <shutyaev> *No DHCPOFFERS received
[09:18] <sauerbraten> replicasex: yeah i know it's not the first time i install ubuntu :D i just wanted to save time and a cd ;)
[09:18] <yofel> hm, that sounds like it can't find a DHCP server o.O
[09:19] <shutyaev> yofel, that does.. but my router is configured correctly and all other computers (and in fact this one also when it had windows) contact the dhcp successfully
[09:20] <Jibadeeha> when using encrypted home with ubuntu 10.* does it encrypt swap as well?
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> Jibadeeha: yes
[09:20] <yofel> shutyaev: can't help you then as I don't know too much about DHCP, maybe someone else can
[09:20] <liquid> shutyaev, have u unplugged ur router for a min?
[09:20] <Jibadeeha> tonyyarusso, i never realised that .. thanks
[09:21] <e01> someone with troubles with gwibber on facebook? or only i?
[09:21] <shutyaev> liquid, you mean the router power cord or the connection between router and laptop?
[09:21] <kivod> just to say that unity rocks! :D
[09:21] <PhrostyB> so guys
[09:21] <PhrostyB> i stored my themes on my windows partition.. how do i go about putting them back?
[09:21] <PhrostyB> these are themes i used in mint gnome.. i want to use them in ubuntu now
[09:22] <kivod> just a question, does anyone know how to remove the "mail" icon in the notification area?
[09:22] <sorsis> what program to be used to create CSS templaters?
[09:22] <sorsis> templates
[09:23] <zetheroo1> Failed to mount Windows share
[09:23] <PhrostyB> crap i think i lost them
[09:23] <zetheroo1> why?
[09:23] <greppy> sorsis: a text editor?
[09:23] <viewer> i'm trying to set up rtorrent to run as an invisible daemon with 'screen' and to have it launch automatically on bootup.  i made a init.d script that did 'screen -dmt "torrents" rtorrent' but it doesnt actually start processing until i connect to the screen with 'screen -RD'.  any idea why?  also i noticed that it is running as root, is that bad?
[09:23] <sorsis> greppy: no wysiwyg available?
[09:23] <greppy> sorsis: there are some html editors that include that ability.
[09:24] <Nepherius> uhm ..is there no "system try , norification area whatever on ubuntu ?:)
[09:24] <Ponton> real CSS is not WYSIWYG
[09:24] <moetunes> viewer:  did you check the rtorrent wiki? - it has a how to for doing that
[09:24] <greppy> sorsis: nvu or Kompozer may do what you need.
[09:24] <zetheroo1> since upgrading to 10.10 I cannot mount the shares on the network
[09:24] <viewer> moetunes, it is not very indepth at all ;(
[09:24] <zetheroo1> help please
[09:24] <yofel> viewer: every init script runs as root, you could start screen or rtorrent as a different user with start-stop-daemon though, I don't know why it would wait for a screen connection though either
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> sorsis, greppy: Nvu doesn't exist anymore - KompoZer is it.
[09:25] <yofel> Nepherius: there was/is but it's being replaced by the indicators AFAIK
[09:25] <PhrostyB> ah i figured it out
[09:25] <PhrostyB> sweet
[09:26] <greppy> tonyyarusso: that's why I said nvu or Kompozer, I haven't kept up with webdev tools since I took off my webmaster hat a few years ago :)
[09:26] <viewer> yofel, when before i connect to the screen it is a sleeping root process and when i connect the first time it is a blank screen and in about 2 seconds rtorrent comes up, like it got loaded into memory but never started initializing
[09:26] <mekwall> tonyyarusso, Do you know what happens if the cloud controller dies? Do the cloud collapse?
[09:26] <yofel> zetheroo1: I don't know much about windows shares (samba?) but do you get any error message that tells something about the problem?
[09:26] <Nepherius> ffs imy pannel is super crowed ,,cant belive there is no system tray :(
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> greppy: Fair enough.  Yeah, Nvu was abandoned quite a while ago.  KompoZer picked up where it left off, with the intention of filling the gap until Nvu's author finishes BlueGriffon.
[09:27] <zetheroo1> yofel: Failed to mount Windows share
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> mekwall: no idea
[09:27] <yofel> zetheroo1: that doesn't tell much :(
[09:27] <mekwall> tonyyarusso, hehe ok :) I need to test that then
[09:27] <MooshiMuushi> Does anyone know where the "appdata" is in Ubuntu? Appdata is from windows. I need to find it. Anyone know where it is?
[09:27] <MooshiMuushi> :D
[09:27] <zetheroo1> yofel: yeah I know :P
[09:27] <viewer> yofel, will it compromise my home network to run rtorrent as root (since its a media center pc and gets rformatted often)
[09:28] <yofel> viewer: hm... it could be that it waits for something when starting the shell, but I'm not sure
[09:28] <bloopletech> I've accidentally removed a bunch of packages - how do I reset back to the list of packages in maverick?
[09:28] <yofel> viewer: no idea
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> viewer: probably.  WHy would you?
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> bloopletech: install ubuntu-desktop
[09:28] <yofel> bloopletech: for the default packages, remove and install ubuntu-desktop again
[09:29] <poomalairaj> Hello guys, I am trying to install windows xp. I have windows iso image. I don't have cd rom drive and usb booting does not work in my computer. Is there any other way to install windows natively? I dont want to install it in a VM. Thanks