[05:14] <sakhi> Morning.
[07:02] <superfly> morning all
[08:02] <kbmonkey> hello
[08:58] <inetpro> Guten Morgen
[13:34] <nuvolari> o/
[13:35] <nuvolari> inetpro: wie geht es?
[13:35] <inetpro> nuvolari: gut selber?
[13:36] <inetpro> nuvolari: how's your connection today?
[13:37] <inetpro> did anybody get the additional 20GB from Vodacom before the deal expired?
[13:38]  * inetpro decided to give it a pass
[13:49] <nuvolari> inetpro: ser gut, danke
[13:49] <nuvolari> I grabbed the last straw left
[13:49] <nuvolari> so I need to figure out what to download with the extra BW :P
[13:50] <Tonberry> all the things
[13:51] <inetpro> I still have about 15GB to use until 31 Jan
[13:51] <inetpro> R500 for another 28 days will be a waste for me
[13:51] <Tonberry> half an ubuntu repo?
[13:52] <inetpro> Tonberry: why download the ubuntu repo if you won't use it?
[13:53]  * Tonberry shrugs
[13:53]  * inetpro has no time to play with such things
[13:53] <Tonberry> i use local repos
[13:53] <Tonberry> as in on the box over there
[13:54] <Tonberry> but i can keep them up to date at the university
[13:54] <inetpro> I can get away with 3GB a month if I go easy
[13:54] <inetpro> though 5GB is probably more like what I should go for these days
[13:55] <inetpro> sad that it's so costly
[13:57] <inetpro> I should probably try 8ta again at the end of the month
[13:58] <inetpro> want to play a bit with a high gain antenna and see whether it will make a difference
[14:15] <nuvolari> inetpro: it will definitely make a difference
[14:16] <Tonberry> unless you are already on the roof
[14:17] <inetpro> a friend has an antenna that I can play with
[14:17] <inetpro> just need to figure how to find the optimal direction
[14:19] <Tonberry> there are ways to get the actual signal strength from a 3g modem in linux
[14:20] <Tonberry> comgt can do it
[15:49] <zeref> o0o0
[15:49] <zeref> just found a 4GB HDD
[15:50] <zeref> can i use it as a flash disk LOL
[17:25] <superfly> zeref: my routing server has a 6GB HDD
[17:33] <zeref> :-)
[17:33] <zeref> just installed debian on an old box, using it as a server
[17:46] <superfly> zeref: how old is old?
[17:46] <superfly> what are its specs?
[18:21] <nlsthzn> Seems uncle Kilos is struggling to get on :/
[18:21] <nlsthzn> Oh, and hi all :)
[18:23] <Kilos> yay
[18:23] <Kilos> lo superfly inetpro bakuman
[18:23] <superfly> hi Kilos!
[18:24] <Kilos> ignore the mail to the lists
[18:24] <nlsthzn> Lol... was just on telling all that you couldn't get on :p
[18:25] <Kilos> dunno what was wrong here, couldnt get to #ubuntu-za
[18:25] <Kilos> evening everyone else
[18:25] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn
[18:25] <Kilos> hows our ahab
[18:25] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[18:25] <nlsthzn> Fine thanks uncle Kilos and you?
[18:26] <Kilos> i wonder what was wrong
[18:26] <Kilos> ok ty. we got a big storm here so dunno how long power will be on
[18:28] <Kilos> inetpro, lewe jy nog??
[18:28] <Kilos> Maaz, coffe on
[18:28] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[18:28] <Kilos> grrr
[18:28] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:28]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[18:29] <Kilos> Maaz, hurry
[18:29] <Maaz> Making decent coffee is an art Kilos and should never be rushed
[18:29] <Kilos> sigh
[18:29] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[18:29] <Maaz> Kilos: Now now, we don't want anyone getting caffeine overdoses
[18:30]  * Kilos was hoping for 2 cups before the power goes off
[18:30] <nlsthzn> :)
[18:30] <Kilos> hmm
[18:30]  * nlsthzn goes to play some games again... bye
[18:31] <nuvolari> o/
[18:31] <nuvolari> lo oom Kilos
[18:32]  * nuvolari wonder of oom Kilos hom raaksien (die epos lyk fishy :P)
[18:32] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[19:04] <nlsthzn> Silly monsters killing us :/
[19:22] <tumbleweed> superfly: reminder that if you want to get something into precise you need to move
[19:22] <tumbleweed> we're already at debian import freeze
[19:23] <superfly> tumbleweed: yeah, I figured to just leave it... Sad, but I haven't really had the time :-(
[19:23] <tumbleweed> ok
[19:36] <Kilos> yay power came again back
[19:36] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[19:36] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[19:36]  * Kilos drinks cold coffee
[19:46] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:48]  * nuviwebchat slowly catches up to 11.10
[19:49] <nuviwebchat> gmf. :-/
[19:49] <nuviwebchat> all of a sudden my grub freezes for no aparent reason, the only key combination doing anything is Ctrl+Alt+Del
[19:50] <nuviwebchat> but noooo...
[19:50] <nuviwebchat> having a tty would be awesome
[19:50] <nuviwebchat> not really the desired action
[19:51] <nuviwebchat> oh, and my phone doesn't want to work that well with unfamiliar recovery apps too
[19:51]  * nuviwebchat facepalms
[19:51] <nuviwebchat> but it's sorted now
[19:51] <nuviwebchat> anyone actually reading this wil think "what a weird bloke. talking to himself. Just like that..."
[19:51] <nuviwebchat> so what if I am?
[19:52] <nuviwebchat> I blame Microsoft.
[19:53] <nuviwebchat> argh. if this install completes I need to set up stuff again. In the first place my reason for not upgrading
[19:53] <nuviwebchat> but it's a new year. I need a new start, fresh environment
[20:11] <drasha> hi everyone, need some help on multiple nic's in my ubuntu box... anyone?
[20:15] <superfly> drasha: don't ask to ask, just ask ;-)
[20:15] <drasha> ta...
[20:17] <drasha> got  my linux box connected to my adsl router on eth0
[20:17] <drasha> now, bought a WUG kit, wug cable connected to my other nic in the ubuntu box on eth0
[20:17] <drasha> soz, i mean, eth1
[20:18] <drasha> ip on eth1: <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:19] <drasha> cannot ping wug router on ip: <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:19] <drasha> routing tables: <IP_ADDRESS>    <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS> U     0      0        0 eth1
[20:19] <drasha> any ideas why i can't ping my wug router?
[20:23] <superfly> hmmm
[20:24] <superfly> drasha: what's the IP range of your WUG router?
[20:25] <drasha> i've been given the ip's <IP_ADDRESS> - <IP_ADDRESS> to use...
[20:26] <drasha> router ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:38] <nuviwebchat> *waiting for "installing system" progress label to go away..."
[21:27] <nuvolari> :>
[21:28] <nuvolari> so far so good, apart from not having both my screens active, it seems pretty nice
[21:28]  * nuvolari wish internet was as fast as thoughts
[21:28] <nuvolari> o/ g'evening Kerbero
[21:31] <Kerbero> \o
[21:32] <Kerbero> ek sit op die oomblik in duitsland, en moet nie dink suid-afrika s'n is stadig nie
[21:32] <Kerbero> my internet by die huis in SA is definitief vinniger en meer stabiel as wat ek nog erens in europa kon vind
[21:32] <Kerbero> behalwe op een plek in nederland waar ek 'n 20mbps kabel gehad het
[21:45] <zeref> hmmmmm
[21:49]  * nuvolari kwyl
[21:52] <zeref> i'm trying to share my internet connection with my server, i've tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[21:53] <zeref> but no luck
[21:54] <zeref> i dont use gnome-network-manger, i use /etc/network/interfaces to setup my network
[21:54] <zeref> cant seem to find the settings..
[21:54] <Kerbero> uhm
[21:55] <Kerbero> do you want to bridge or NAT?
[21:55] <Kerbero> /etc/network/interfaces is not enough on its own
[21:55] <Kerbero> you'll either need a bridge interface to bridge
[21:55] <Kerbero> or iptables to do masquerading
[21:56] <Kerbero> ahh i see that guide says that anyway
[21:57] <Kerbero> zeref: and you did enable that one line in sysctl.conf
[21:58] <Kerbero> that guide is a bit confusing
[21:58] <Kerbero> but seems correct
[21:59] <zeref> hmm
[21:59] <zeref> i dont know which parts to follow and which parts to ignore
[21:59] <Kerbero> well first of all: sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf
[22:00] <Kerbero> and enable the line that says something about ipv4 forwarding
[22:00] <Kerbero> it should be =1
[22:01] <Kerbero> hmm
[22:01] <Kerbero> i normally use webmin to configure iptables
[22:01] <Kerbero> and don't do it by hand
[22:01] <Kerbero> because that makes everything just too complex for me
[22:02] <zeref> kk
[22:02] <Kerbero> webmin actually has a iptables rule "template" for connection sharing iirc
[22:02] <zeref> so for that guide, i should follow all the steps??
[22:02] <Kerbero> yeah
[22:02] <superfly> zeref: install arno-iptables-firewall, and then all you need to do is make sure you set up your routing on your server properly
[22:04] <zeref> kk, will give it a go


[13:49] <brousch> rick_h_: Time to resurrect Bookie! https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/04/27/1924210/bookmark-syncing-service-xmarks-closes-for-good-on-may-1
[13:49] <rick_h_> brousch: hah, yea saw that. There's some other bookmark service trying to get off the ground there
[13:49] <rick_h_> and bookmark sync'ing isn't the same thing. Most browsers do that any more tbh
[13:50] <jrwren> i still like the reddit sub :)
[13:51] <rick_h_> reddit sub?
[13:53] <jrwren> make your own reddit sub for sharing URLs
[13:53] <rick_h_> https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12041833&cid=56521569 that's the feeling of most users ime
[13:54] <jrwren> that is the feeling of most users, and for them, its probably fine. For others who actually care about things, its impossible.
[13:54] <jrwren> They must have missed the part where google makes things unsearchable on request these days.
[14:30] <Scary_Guy> where as I've got 800 bookmarks
[14:30] <Scary_Guy> most are still valid, most :)
[14:31] <Scary_Guy> I used to use xenu link sleuth when I was on Window$ forever ago to make sure of that
[16:00] <greg-g> firefox's awesome bar is my bookmarking/search tool. I just wish it also did full text search (yes, I want a cache of every page I visit on my laptop, or a server I host, disk is cheap)
[16:02] <rick_h_> yea, someone updated the bookie extension to do that one day
[16:02] <rick_h_> so it saved every page visited to bookie which processed the page and fulltext'd the content
[16:03] <greg-g> nice
[17:22] <cmaloney> <3
[19:14] <brousch> Damnit, my RSS reader is shutting down - the one I moved to after Google Reader died
[19:29] <waldo323> :(
[19:47] <greg-g> brousch: I'm rocking newsblur, but I haven't been a big rss reader lately :(
[19:48] <brousch> It's how I read webcomics and slashdot
[19:56] <cmaloney> brousch: Which one?
[19:56] <cmaloney> honeslty I went back to rss2email and haven't looked back
[19:59] <brousch> GoRead.io
[20:04] <cmaloney> Ah, that sucks
[20:24] <rick_h_> yea, newsblur is good people
[20:35] <greg-g> he's a crazy SF hipster, but the service is good :P
[20:48] <brousch> I'll take a look. Thanks
[21:01] <Scary_Guy> I wish http://newsmap.jp worked properly on my system.  Uses Flash.  Not RSS but I like the layout
[21:10] <Scary_Guy> warning, it does come up with some type of error or warning sometimes (didn't for me this time) probably because it hasn't worked properly in years
[21:11] <Scary_Guy> still, I wouldn't recommend visiting it without umatrix or at least noscript installed
[21:11] <Scary_Guy> of course, I don't recommend using ANY site without those installed, either :)
[21:15] <jrwren> lol @ flash
[21:15] <Scary_Guy> right?  well the site is ancient
[22:17] <jrwren> the domain name reminds me of http://popurls.com
[22:59] <Scary_Guy> the fact that there is an app store button and no F-Droid button (or play store for that matter) makes me not care :(