[12:54] <cpaelzer> didrocks: sarnold: slyon: I have a high prio conflict today - could one of you lead the MIR meeting later today?
[13:08] <didrocks> cpaelzer: will do!
[13:12] <cpaelzer> thank you
[14:31] <sarnold> good morning
[14:31] <didrocks> hey
[14:31] <didrocks> another case of only us 2?
[14:31] <joalif> o/
[14:32] <didrocks> ah no, it’s just not both of us :)
[14:32] <didrocks> let’s start, one sec
[14:33] <didrocks> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
[14:33] <meetingology> Meeting started at 14:33:11 UTC.  The chair is didrocks.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
[14:33] <didrocks> Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage
[14:33] <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick
[14:33] <didrocks> #topic current component mismatches
[14:33] <didrocks> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
[14:33] <didrocks> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[14:33] <didrocks> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[14:33] <didrocks> nothing new apparently
[14:33] <didrocks> #topic New MIRs
[14:33] <didrocks> Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing
[14:33] <didrocks> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:34] <didrocks> ah, libssh2 as been added :)
[14:34] <didrocks> it was a missing dep of libgit2 I think
[14:34] <didrocks> any taker? I’m unsure to have time for this this week
[14:34] <joalif> i can take it
[14:35] <didrocks> \o/
[14:35] <didrocks> thanks! I think there will be some fun discussion on libssh vs libssh2 and the security gods are looking :)
[14:35] <didrocks> The other is MIR licheerv-rtl8723ds-dkms
[14:36] <didrocks> this one seems to come back to the discussion of "drivers/tests"
[14:36] <didrocks> I’m happy to have a first look, but I think we should really discuss what to do with those in the QA team
[14:37] <didrocks> ok, let’s move to incomplete bugs
[14:37] <didrocks> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[14:37] <didrocks> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
[14:37] <didrocks> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:38] <joalif> re http-parser shall we discuss it now or later ?
[14:38] <didrocks> we can now
[14:38] <joalif> so apart from the upstream project being unmaintained
[14:39] <joalif> the package is ok
[14:39] <joalif> foundations say they are ok to take over
[14:39] <joalif> and also debian is actively maintaining it
[14:39] <joalif> so do we say ack or nack ?
[14:40] <didrocks> I would then say ack under those circumstances, sanoard, what would you be your vote?
[14:40] <sarnold> if we kicked out everything that was unsupported upstream it'd be a vastly smaller distro, but there's no denying that http parsers don't feel like the right place to be orphaned :(
[14:41] <didrocks> yep…
[14:41] <sarnold> if foundations is really onboard with maintenance as it comes up, that's probably good, but I want to make sure foundations understands that it might be some really heavy lifting, in addition to the far more likely case of nothing needed at all
[14:42] <didrocks> I think you can make those points during the security review :)
[14:42] <sarnold> trust me, I will :D
[14:42] <joalif> I haven't assigned it yet to security, shall I then ?
[14:43] <didrocks> I think you are good to go
[14:43] <sarnold> has it been upgraded to the latest upstream version yet?
[14:43] <didrocks> all my requirements are not answered though. schopin, do you plan on answering the other required TODOs?
[14:43] <didrocks> (I would prefer avoiding another ping/pong on the bug)
[14:43] <sarnold> oh, or was that for libgit2 only?
[14:43] <didrocks> joalif was talking about http-parser
[14:43] <schopin> didrocks: IIRC the remaining TODO was better test coverage?
[14:44] <schopin> wait, are we talking about libgit2 or http-parser?
[14:44] <didrocks> http-parser is ack
[14:45] <didrocks> schopin: we are missing on libgit2 an answer for the autopkgtests requirements and also, if possible, the warnings issue as recommended TODO
[14:45] <didrocks> (I don’t think we write the recommended TODOs for them just being fully ignored :p)
[14:45] <schopin> warnings are adressed in latest upload, still stuck in unapproved atm.
[14:45] <didrocks> oh, excellent!
[14:45] <schopin> I need to check a few things first before adressing the test case
[14:46] <didrocks> sounds good to me
[14:46] <didrocks> can we keep it as incomplete for libgit2 until this is done?
[14:46] <schopin> makes sense to me
[14:46] <didrocks> alright
[14:47] <didrocks> moving on to you sarnold :)
[14:47] <didrocks> #topic MIR related Security Review Queue
[14:47] <didrocks> Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable?
[14:47] <didrocks> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:47] <didrocks> Internal link
[14:47] <didrocks> - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect
[14:47] <didrocks> - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much
[14:47] <didrocks> #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594
[14:47] <didrocks> mic is yours :p
[14:48] <sarnold> it's a significantly smaller list than I expected :D much thanks to my team mates who have taken mirs this cycle; it's not down to zero, and probably can't get there in time for release, but I'm pretty happy with how things went
[14:48] <sarnold> I'm hopeful that upstream for editorconfig-core will come up with some small changes to not expose user input directly to pcre2 without too much troubl
[14:48] <didrocks> anything urgent/worth mentioning on the ones that will probably miss the deadline? (not blocking teams/deliverable for this cycle?)
[14:48] <sarnold> but whether they'll be able to come up with something in the very short time left before release seems unlikely :(
[14:49] <sarnold> nullboot and fdk-aac will probably not be started in time to make it for kinetic
[14:49] <didrocks> indeeed
[14:49] <didrocks> can you ensure that the MIR reporters are aware?
[14:49] <sarnold> good idea, will do
[14:49] <didrocks> excellent, thanks sarnold!
[14:49] <didrocks> #topic Any other business?
[14:49] <didrocks> (nothing for me)
[14:49] <sarnold> nothing here
[14:49] <joalif> nothing
[14:50] <didrocks> let’s get back those 10 minutes then, thanks everyone!
[14:50] <didrocks> #endmeeting
[14:50] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 14:50:14 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-10-04-14.33.moin.txt
[14:50] <sarnold> thanks didrocks, joalif, schopin :)
[14:50] <joalif> thanks didrocks sarnold
[14:50] <joalif> and schopin :)


[06:14] <jose> Tm_T: is this you now?
[06:16] <Tm_T> jose: it's been me all the time
[06:16] <Tm_T> just had some funky with irssinotifier script it seems
[06:16] <jose> Tm_T: not with your last 30 clones :P
[06:16] <MooDoo> hello all
[06:16] <jose> o/
[06:16] <Unit193> See?  And people complain at *me* for having clones. :P
[06:17] <Tm_T> jose: let's say that I'm quite multitalented multipersona (;
[06:17] <jose> :P
[06:42] <Tm_Tr> hohum
[06:44] <elky> Tm_Tr: we love you and all, but in small quantities :P
 this much ;)
[11:39] <optrusty> hey guys I heard about the call for operators
[11:41]  * optrusty slaps AlanBell around a bit with a large trout
[11:59] <Tm_T> optrusty: that's quite rude
[12:06] <MooDoo> optrusty: did you have a question about it? ;)
[12:55] <optrusty> Srry I was playing with buttons
[12:56] <optrusty> but I got an email for call for operators http://paste.ubuntu.com/7255126/
[12:57] <optrusty> or something like that.
[12:57] <hggdh> optrusty: yes. So, what is your doubt?
[12:58] <optrusty> I accidently thought I wouldnt be avalible tommorow
[13:00] <MooDoo> is your nam on the list of candidates optrusty ?
[13:01] <optrusty> quene
[13:01] <elky> why were you worried about tomorrow?
[13:02] <optrusty> wait oh what
[13:02] <elky> that's approximately what i said to myself while trying to understand what you're talking about
[13:03] <optrusty> wait so I don't have to come
[13:04] <MooDoo> optrusty: is your name on that list, if it's not then it's up to you when you come or not lol
[13:05] <elky> i'm not sure what is significant about tomorrow
[13:05] <MooDoo> it is significant if you've applied to be a channel op :D
[13:06] <optrusty> ya I did MooDoo
[13:06] <Pici> There is an IRCC meeting tomorrow.
[13:06] <elky> Pici: i read the agenda wiki page and got confused, sorry
[13:07] <Pici> elky: you confused me too, its okay.
[13:07] <elky> apparently it's not march anymore
[13:07]  * hggdh is usually confused, so...
[13:07] <optrusty> where do I come?
[13:11] <hggdh> optrusty: #ubuntu-meeting, at 1800
[13:11] <hggdh> er, 1800 UTC
[13:12] <optrusty> 2:00 pm et in my time
[13:13] <optrusty> thx
[13:26] <optrusty> qqqqqa
[13:27] <phunyguy> hello
[13:27] <optrusty> oh srry
[16:16] <lderan> AlanBell, hey, have you had chance to look at my merge request for the meeting bot. also what needs doing on the paste spam bot front?


[09:21] <xnox> mpt: removing e.g. keyboard/language indicator could work on touch devices, with pop-up keyboard that has globe/cog button to change keyboard language.
[13:17] <mpt> xnox, yes, but meanwhile most people using the installer will still be using a hardware keyboard :-]


[01:01] <nothingman> ciao, all!
[13:39] <manasses> HI
[14:47] <sbalneav> Morning all
[15:14] <Mip5> Morning Gang! I see I forgot to "leave" on Friday - DOH!
[19:05] <bsnyder> i just installed ubuntu 8.10 desktop using the all alt cd - it worked just fine
[19:06] <bsnyder> then i installed the edubuntu 8.10 add-on, rebooting and now x won't start
[19:06] <bsnyder> i'm seeing errors like, x server fails to start... no screens found
[19:07] <bsnyder> so i went thru both installs again - same problem
[19:07] <bsnyder> any suggestions? has anyone else experienced this?
[19:08] <sbalneav> Don't think so, but maybe you could tell us what kind of video hardware you have?
[19:08] <sbalneav> it may be a simple fix.
[19:11] <sbalneav> For 8.10, there shouldn't be anything in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.  Is yours empty?
[19:11] <bsnyder> it's an older pc so i don't know off-hand - let me try to take a peek at the card
[19:14] <bsnyder> it's an ATI card, but i'm not sure what model
[19:14] <bsnyder> and the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is not empty
[19:14] <bsnyder> it contains some basic stuff but not enough for X to boot
[19:16] <bsnyder> sbalneav: ^^^
[19:17] <sbalneav> then what I'd try doing is moving it out of the way, and replacing it with an empty xorg.conf
[19:17] <sbalneav> see if that works.
[19:17] <bsnyder> ok, i'll give that a shot
[19:19] <bsnyder> nope, no dice
[19:20] <sbalneav> how are you restarting?  With invoke-rc.d gdm restart?
[19:24] <sbalneav> I'm off to a meeting.  However, failing that, you could always do an "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to reconfigure the X server.
[19:24] <sbalneav> I'll be back in a couple of hours if you still need me.
[19:24] <bsnyder> well that's what i've been doing, but it only walks me thru the keyboard setup
[19:24] <bsnyder> for some reason, it's not walkign me thru the video config at all
[19:28] <Lns> hrmm...ubuntu wiki format is so strange. When logged out of my acct, it doesn't show the horizontal lines under the == Title == headers, but when I *am* logged in, it shows them. I've cleared my cache and all, to.
[19:28] <Lns> too*


[10:09] <LjL> Mordof: "sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>" should remove all traces of a packages (config files included!)
[10:09] <sagarp> how do i get totem to use a driver other than xv?
[10:10] <jessy> is here someone how can help me with xgl/compiz ?
[10:10] <Blissex> wastrel: with the CUPS admin interface, or look at /etc/cups/printers.conf
[10:10] <moogman> jessy: I *may* be able to help :)
[10:10] <tax0n> colm, I liked the first one but it's light amusement. I think I'll stick with this one until I see the 'tape glued to hand on roof' scene.
[10:10] <LjL> jessy: perhaps you should join the dapper channel #ubuntu+1 , as there is no xgl for breezy
[10:10] <Mordof> LjL, ive already gotten rid of it through synaptic
[10:10] <jessy> i've installe compiz by using the xgl/compiz howto under breezy
[10:10] <LjL> Mordof: if you didn't "purge", not everything will have been removed
[10:10] <jessy> many things work
[10:11] <jessy> like window distrotion
[10:11] <jessy> animated minimizing etc
[10:11] <LjL> jessy: they do? from the howto i got the impression of "don't even try it"
[10:11] <jessy> but the alt+ctrl+arrow left/right doesn't work
[10:11] <bosco> bosco did not quit
[10:11] <blackbelt_jones> Im going to need to install a new kernel to get Ubuntu online.   Bye all.
[10:12] <LjL> blackbelt_jones: don't think so.
[10:12] <moogman> jessy: You sure that is a breezy howto and not a dapper one?
[10:12] <rehpotsirhc> blackbelt_jones, you shouldn't have to compile a kernel with ubuntu...you can just use apt-get to fetch the image
[10:12] <Mordof> LjL, i just tried installing an removing with purge again, still doesn't get rid of it
[10:12] <LjL> Mordof: well, there was no need to reinstall first anyway
[10:12] <jessy> this is this one : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133772&highlight=compiz+breezy
[10:12] <blackbelt_jones> I have a problem mysterious problem getting certain distros online.
[10:12] <Twisty> sigh I still cant find mplayer in my syanptic
[10:12] <Mordof> LjL, what other option did i have? i couldnt remove it so how would i be able to get rid of anything
[10:12] <LjL> Mordof: are you sure there aren't any other webmin-related packages still installed? try "dpkg --get-selections | grep -i webmin"
[10:13] <blackbelt_jones> I just managed to get Fedora online, but i had to install a new kernel
[10:13] <odat> has anyone go sound working when trying to play  nexuiz
[10:13] <Mordof> LjL, yeah that comes up with 2 things..
[10:13] <LjL> Mordof: well no i was just telling you for your information that you don't need to re-install a package to purge it, you can just purge it while it's not installed
[10:13] <LadyNikon> ok so.. some how i dont have a home directory for one of my users
[10:13] <LadyNikon> can i just mkdir /home/user?
[10:13] <Mordof> LjL, oh, ok
[10:13] <rehpotsirhc> blackbelt_jones, i'm not sure what your problem is. can you be more specific? there's really no reason you'd have to compile a kernel in ubuntu
[10:14] <LjL> Mordof: you're *probably* safe removing those two things. i've got no webmin related package installed. do check first, though ;)
[10:14] <LjL> LadyNikon: i'd use "adduser" instead
[10:14] <resueman> i need help i cannot access samba shares
[10:14] <wastrel> Blissex:  i can't find an IPP uri linein the printer config page, or in printers.conf
[10:14] <LjL> LadyNikon: how did you *create* the user?
[10:14] <Gnumannen> !locale
[10:14] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Gnumannen
[10:14] <resueman> ive been through the forums and other links still not working
[10:14] <Mordof> LjL, apparently webmin-proftpd also installed just webmin, i guess webmin-proftpd was just the plugin for the ftp server
[10:14] <Mordof> thanks
[10:14] <LadyNikon> LjL: i just took over the computer from someone else
[10:14] <LadyNikon> so i dunno.
[10:14] <kakodaimonos> where can i get some help...
[10:15] <LjL> LadyNikon: i see. i would remove the user and re-add it using adduser
[10:15] <LadyNikon> kakodaimonos: ask your question..
[10:15] <Blissex> wastrel: there isn't...
[10:15] <LadyNikon> LjL: k
[10:15] <kakodaimonos> look, i have problems with the sound....
[10:15] <ConfidentiaL> LjL : I didnt get that command to work, how do I write it?
[10:15] <Blissex> wastrel: what you want from 'printers.conf' is just the name of the printer/printer queue.
[10:15] <kakodaimonos> when i start ubuntu it sounds like a drum..
[10:15] <LjL> ConfidentiaL: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg" i suppose
[10:16] <wastrel> Blissex:  <DefaultPrinter Stylus-C82>
[10:16] <wastrel>   ?
[10:16] <blackbelt_jones> I can't really be more specific.  I don't know what the problem is only how to solve it. In the beginning all distros worked out of the box with my computer.  Then, in fits and starts, certain distros (and Windows) stopped going online.   But others continued to work fine.
[10:16] <Infecto> alo
[10:16] <LjL> ConfidentiaL: not sure that'll gain you much though, unless your problem is that you've accidentally deleted some X files..
[10:16] <Blissex> wastrel: so on the laptio use the CUPS admin interface, and ask it to add a printer called "Stylus-C82" what resides on host "whatever".
[10:16] <odat> has anyone go sound working when trying to play  nexuiz
[10:16] <Infecto> may i ask something ? i`v got problem with my xinerama and kde 3.5.1 on Ubuntu/6.04
[10:16] <rehpotsirhc> blackbelt_jones, whatever. i don't think anyone in here can help you with mysterious ethereal metaphysical problems like that
[10:17] <LjL> Infecto: read the topic please, there is a channel specific to dapper. also, don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
[10:17] <ConfidentiaL> LjL : just problems with xsession...
[10:17] <blackbelt_jones> Since it affected more than one distro at once, it seems like some kind of hardware problem, but since some distros worked, I figured I could get any distro to work by compiling a new kernel.  And I tried it with Fedora, and sure enough
[10:17] <Mordof> Ok, so i went and i tried to make another group in the Users and Groups wizard thing, and then add 2 users to it, but then once i restarted my computer... the group was gone. how do i make it so it will stay?
[10:17] <LjL> ConfidentiaL: like what?
[10:17] <kakodaimonos> anibody kwos a channel where i can get some help in spanish??..
[10:17] <blackbelt_jones> It's ethereal all right.
[10:17] <Infecto> LjL: ok thx sory, im confiust
[10:18] <rehpotsirhc> blackbelt_jones, i'd suggest you a) wait until you have the problem before asking for a soultion and b) once you do have the problem, try to identify what it is before attempting a solution
[10:18] <blackbelt_jones> Well, I've been waiting for the problem for months.  I have the solution..
[10:19] <ConfidentiaL> LjL : when I log on, I get an error message saying there is something wrong with xsession, and then restarts X. I have to run terminal in fail safe, then start xsession from its location to get the desktop...
[10:19] <blackbelt_jones> No one has ever been able to explain it.   But this seems to work.
[10:19] <richard> someone now how can i connet to internet by modem? how can i dial in ubuntu?
[10:19] <rehpotsirhc> richard, sudo pppconfig
[10:20] <bosco_> some guy just wrote a love letter to george bush
[10:20] <MurraySW> LOL
[10:20] <SaLoMoN> gn8
[10:20] <airjump> hello
[10:20] <maria> is there a pluging which makes xmms appear beside the clock like winamp, and hides it from the panel at the bottom of my screen in gnome?
[10:20] <LjL> ConfidentiaL: hm, i suppose you could give reinstalling a try
[10:20] <blackbelt_jones> I too love George Bush
[10:21] <blackbelt_jones> and yes I am being very very sarcastic
[10:21] <djp> where can i get advice about totem-xine? what is the latest version that works with breezy?
[10:21] <hackel_> I really hope the Bush lovers are using Windows.
[10:21] <bosco_> hackel_,  why what is up with that
[10:21] <odat> djp, use mplayer
[10:21] <trappist> I really hope political discussions are happening in -offtopic
[10:21] <wastrel> grr
[10:22] <ubuntu_> guys can somepme help a newbie with Ubuntu?
[10:22] <odat> ubuntu_, ?
[10:22] <colm> !anyone
[10:22] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[10:22] <LjL> maria: "apt-cache show xmms-status-plugin", "apt-cache show gxmms"
[10:22] <bosco_> ubuntu i can
[10:22] <trappist> ubuntu_: we sit around all day waiting for a newbie to ask a specific question so we can do just that
[10:22] <djp> odat, i like totem-xine, unfortunately, dual-audio and subtitles are not working in the breezy version though :(
[10:22] <LjL> trappist: you wish
[10:22] <jafar> Hello all
[10:22] <ubuntu_> haHow can I look at the files on my hard drives?
[10:23] <bosco_> i use ubuntu then i went to e16 then and now e17
[10:23] <MurraySW> Question:  If I wanted to plug in a USB mouse, is there any way I can use it right away without having to restart???
[10:23] <bosco_> ls or lovate
[10:23] <jafar> I have a problem with my 3D card
[10:23] <ubuntu_> I see them in a list but I t wont allow me to look at the files
[10:23] <odat> djp, i c well i always go with whats working
[10:23] <ubuntu_> Im running LIve CD by the way
[10:23] <jafar> it is not supported by Ubt
[10:23] <ubuntu_> does that affect it?
[10:23] <bosco_> ubuntu no that does not
[10:23] <LinuxJones> MurraySW: jsut plug it in
[10:23] <LjL> ubuntu_: what files are you trying to look at, and how?
[10:23] <maria> Ljl: youre the best thanks ! :)
[10:23] <bosco_> ubuntu just ls or loate
[10:23] <jafar> but how can I install drivers
[10:24] <ailean> ubotu, i'm guessing you're using windows normally, and you're on a livecd to check it out?
[10:24] <ubotu> ailean: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[10:24] <jafar> they are available for Redhat & susi .. but not this one
[10:24] <ailean> ubuntu_,  even :)
[10:24] <maria> Ljl: W: Unable to locate package xmms-status-plugin, apt-cache
[10:24] <djp> odat, don't blame you. think i will do the same. vlc seems to be working fine... will try out mplayer now... thanks
[10:24] <ailean> ubuntu_, i'm guessing you're using windows normally, and you're on a livecd to check it out?
[10:24] <LjL> maria: you probably don't have universe enabled
[10:24] <jafar> anybody help
[10:25] <maria> Ljl : ok i got the ubotu msg, ill try that thanks
[10:25] <MurraySW> LinuxJones:  Plugged in.  Doesn't do anything.  I'm on a laptop - the touch pad continues to work however the USB mouse I plug in does not.
[10:25] <Demigod> hello
[10:25] <richard> rehpotsirhc. now i have configured but how can i dial?
[10:25] <rehpotsirhc> richard, pon
[10:25] <jafar> If drivers are not avaialble for my 3D card .. what should I do
[10:25] <odat> djp, i find it works the best with all media
[10:25] <noteventime> Why can't i play ogg thora files? EVery time i try to start them the player stops or quits, I've tried using Kaffeine and VideoLan
[10:25] <rehpotsirhc> richard, er, sudo pon
[10:25] <rehpotsirhc> richard, sudo poff when you want to disconnect
[10:26] <jafar> help ??
[10:26] <maria> Ljl: can i do this in dapper drake?
[10:26] <djp> odat, ah, just realised why i don't use mplayer... subtitles only work from the command line for ogm files
[10:26] <LinuxJones> MurraySW: usb mice usually just work after you plug them in.
[10:26] <LjL> maria: no idea. guess so
[10:26] <jafar> bye
[10:26] <LinuxJones> MurraySW: do you have an optical mouse ?
[10:26] <bosco_> sudo shutdown -h now
[10:26] <MurraySW> LinuxJones:  I'll try a different mouse.  It is optical.
[10:27] <djp> odat, that is why vlc is currently my best alternative to the buggy totem-xine
[10:27] <mcdonaldswes> I just tried to install memprof (from hoary main) and it complained that the package would be installed unauthenticated...
[10:27] <LinuxJones> MurraySW: ok does it get power ?
[10:27] <mcdonaldswes> I've never seen this before with main packages
[10:27] <La_PaRCa> Wow. xchat-gnome really sucks
[10:27] <MurraySW> LinuxJones:  It's wireless.  It has power.
[10:27] <mcdonaldswes> should I be worried?
[10:27] <ailean> La_PaRCa, seems fine to me
[10:27] <LinuxJones> MurraySW:  oh that's probably it
[10:27] <LjL> maria: oh, hold on -- if you mean the universe and multiverse, yes they will work, but you shouldn't follow the howto literally
[10:27] <rehpotsirhc> maria, add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[10:27] <mebaran151> I'm working in a dualhead setup
[10:27] <LjL> maria: namely, when it mentions "breezy", that's not breezy you should use ;)
[10:27] <MurraySW> LinuxJones: Also, the light on the wireless transmitter is on, so yes, the transmitter has power.
[10:27] <rehpotsirhc> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[10:27] <mebaran151> but I'd like to be able to specify two different virtual desktop sizes
[10:27] <La_PaRCa> ailean: its user interface is ugly. Real ugly.
[10:28] <mebaran151> I'm using nView
[10:28] <mebaran151> anybody know anything?
[10:28] <ailean> La_PaRCa, same with most linux software . . .
[10:28] <wastrel> Blissex:  ... i can't figure it out
[10:28] <Blissex> wastrel: that's a statement not a question :-)
[10:28] <mebaran151> ailean: I wouldn't say that
[10:28] <richard> rehpotsirhc, how can i do it in graphical mode?
[10:28] <Blissex> wastrel: however, let's do a test...
[10:28] <La_PaRCa> ailean: the regular xchat interface is way more functional
[10:28] <mebaran151> I've been in windows a lot this week, and there's alot of ugly ui there too
[10:29] <Blissex> wastrel: open a terminal window on the laptop.
[10:29] <ailean> La_PaRCa, oh, i thought that's what you meant :)
[10:29] <rehpotsirhc> richard, uh, well you can open up a terminal window and type it on. or you can find a ppp utility for gnome--i don't know of any offhand because i don't use ppp. try apt-cache search ppp
[10:29] <LinuxJones> MurraySW:  can you switch channels on the mouse port ?
[10:30] <rehpotsirhc> richard, there seems to be one called "gkdial" maybe sudo apt-get install gkdial?
[10:30] <Demigod> why on ubuntu doesnt have the (man rpm)?
[10:30] <LjL> rehpotsirhc, richard: or even better "apt-cache search gnome ppp", as ppp alone will give a few results
[10:30] <deepwoodz> I can't get font to show up on macromedia flash games or on the macromedia menu
[10:30] <MurraySW> LinuxJones:  I'll try that.
[10:30] <LjL> Demigod: because ubuntu uses the APT packaging system, not RPM
[10:30] <Infecto> LjL: kde ? i`v got problems with kde, but they are on 6.04 and nobody wants to help me on +1 #
[10:30] <wastrel> Blissex:  yes
[10:31] <LjL> Infecto: never used 6.04 myself
[10:31] <Demigod> so if i have rpm file i cant install it on the system?
[10:31] <noteventime> I'm running KDE on dapper
[10:31] <Infecto> LjL: now i start to think that was a big error by my side
[10:31] <Blissex> wastrel: now try this: [oops wait a bit]
[10:31] <wastrel> telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 631  ?  it works
[10:31] <Infecto> Demigod: use alien to convert that package on your needs
[10:31] <wastrel> .2 being the desktop
[10:32] <Twisty> woot Mplayer works now thanks.
[10:32] <Twisty> :)
[10:32] <LjL> Infecto: well, i seem to understand that Dapper has become sort of stable lately, but it's still an experimental version, and personally, my computer has enough problems running stable things
[10:32] <lasse> how do i get mp3's to work in totem? do i need a packet ore a codec?
[10:32] <Infecto> LjL: but the problem is, hmm thats the problem i dont know where
[10:32] <wastrel> !mp3
[10:32] <Infecto> agrrrr
[10:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:33] <lasse> thanks
[10:33] <LjL> Infecto: eh?
[10:33] <taburete> hi which is the number for text login in inittab?
[10:33] <taburete> I tried with 2 and 2 with not success
[10:33] <jsestri2> jsestri2 crapola
[10:34] <Infecto> LjL: i dont know where is the problem, i can describe it but i dont know whats generating this problem
[10:34] <noteventime> taburete: Dont start kdm/gdm/xdm
[10:34] <rehpotsirhc> i installed dapper and it killed direct rendering for my ati mobility radeon 9000
[10:34] <LjL> Infecto: those are the worst problems ;)
[10:34] <taburete> and how do that?
[10:34] <Infecto> LjL: are you traying to sa my that can be worst? :)))
[10:34] <noteventime> I think you disable them in inittab
[10:35] <Infecto> is inaf belive me :)
[10:35] <Blissex> wastrel: OK, I am back.
[10:35] <avatar_> i have an issue with dapper and xorg-driver-fglrx: apparently this package is not updating libGL and is using Mesa's libGL. how can i fix this?
[10:35] <noteventime> But then youl have to use startx after login, you could probably make some kind of login script though
[10:35] <LjL> Infecto: i'm just saying problems you have no clue at all about the cause of can be tricky to solve
[10:36] <taburete> I mean where can I stop the start of gdm?
[10:36] <deepwoodz> Does anyone know how to get the font to show up for the macromedia flash player?
[10:36] <noteventime> In inittab, I think
[10:36] <shanonx> wastrel: I give up on the whole network interface thing, I guess me and linux  just wans't ment to be.... apparently ubuntu doesn't support my motherboard or video card.
[10:36] <Blissex> wastrel: try this:
[10:36] <Mordof> where does firefox keep its bookmarks?
[10:37] <rehpotsirhc> Mordof, ~/.mozilla i believe
[10:37] <hackel_> deepwoodz:  I think you need to install gsfonts-x11
[10:37] <Anti-Proton> deepwoodz, try installing gsfonts-x11
[10:37] <Blissex> wastrel: try this: lp -h <desktop> -d Stylus-C82 /etc/issue
[10:37] <noteventime> in a file called bokmarks.html
[10:37] <wastrel> shanonx:  maybe the next release, dapper will support them ...  it's due out in a couple months
[10:37] <deepwoodz> ok. brb
[10:38] <noteventime> You can get the dapper beta :)
[10:38] <shanonx> noteventime: where can i get the dapper beta?
[10:38] <LinuxJones> shanonx: it's a new system you have ?
[10:38] <Mordof> rehpotsirhc, crap -.-
[10:38] <noteventime> Just change you repositories to dapper and make an update
[10:38] <shanonx> LinuxJones: yes ... i upgraded my system, and ever since I cannot get any distro of linux to install.
[10:38] <wastrel> Blissex:  yummy, worked.
[10:39] <LinuxJones> what kind of mobo did you get ?
[10:39] <hackel_> I wish ubuntu had a testing distribution in addition to dapper/unstable.
[10:39] <Net_Holer> r novis
[10:39] <Blissex> wastrel: so everything is all right, you only need to get a bit more familiar with the way to add remote printer using CUPS web interface...
[10:39] <shanonx> LinuxJones: Intel 945P... uses a Pentium D 840 3.2ghz processor
[10:39] <LinuxJones> hackel_: Dapper's been running awesome for me.
[10:39] <wastrel> Blissex:  i'm using the gnome configurator thing
[10:40] <shanonx> Any other way to get dapper rather than already having linux installed?
[10:40] <noteventime> Dapper runs like a dream on my laptop
[10:40] <Blissex> wastrel: wait a sec -- there are two ways to a add a remote printer!
[10:40] <hackel_> LinuxJones:  I'm not saying it won't, I'm installing it now, I just like how I can have a constantly in-testing system with Debian and not have to upgrade every few months.
[10:40] <noteventime> Yes, there is a cd availible
[10:40] <noteventime> for kubuntu anyway
[10:40] <osh_> Doesn't "aptitude purge" remove config-files that I've touched?
[10:40] <LjL> osh_: yes it does
[10:40] <Blissex> wastrel: one is as a local virtual printer/queue that forwards jobs to the remote queue. The other is as a remote printer directly to GNOME.
[10:41] <LjL> osh_: uh... i think
[10:41] <J_element> evening
[10:41] <LjL> osh_: actually perhaps it doesn't
[10:41] <J_element> need help regarding a subject
[10:41] <J_element> how do i make all routing of my nics to one destination
[10:41] <osh_> LjL: heh. Ok. Good thing I'm not the only one confused. ;-)
[10:42] <Panzerboy> hey all
[10:42] <Blissex> wastrel: for the former you usually use the 'http://localhost:631/admin' web interface
[10:42] <osh_> LjL: The manpage isn't all that clear on the subject.
[10:42] <Panzerboy> any idea if deskbar-applet searches also through thunderbird mail ?
[10:42] <Panzerboy> or only evo?
[10:42] <LinuxJones> shanonx: from what I can tell it's a sata problem give me a sec to serach google a bit more.
[10:42] <shanonx> LinuxJones: ok
[10:42] <LjL> osh_: no, it isn't. right now i'm not finding any info at first googling, either
[10:43] <jessy> ok xglcompiz works fine under breezy, the only one thing i have added is every plugins in active_puglins (gconf)
[10:43] <J_element> eth1 is physical devie conected to the net. virtual-devices1-5 all have puplic ip adresses, and need normal network config
[10:43] <shanonx> LinuxJones: when I try to install Ubuntu, during the install process it tells me it cannot find my Network Adapter(onboard)
[10:43] <jessy> can someone tell me what is the button who correspond to <Super> ???
[10:43] <J_element> can any one help on that ...
[10:43] <lisah> WASSSSSUIP
[10:43] <LinuxJones> shanonx: the 2nd last entry has a workaround with changing a setting in the bios, dunno if it works though >> http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/10794
[10:44] <Mordof> rehpotsirhc, when i try to replace those bookmarks from another spot, it doesnt work :S
[10:44] <LinuxJones> shanonx: ok what kind of network card is it ?
[10:44] <Twisty> !nvidia
[10:44] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:44] <rehpotsirhc> Mordof, what are you doing exactly.
[10:44] <blah> dhfa
[10:44] <chelseaf_> hihi
[10:45] <Mordof> rehpotsirhc, i have bookmarks from my dapper install that i need in my breezy install (the one im currently on)
[10:45] <MurraySW> Hello Chelsea.
[10:45] <Mordof> and i dont want to boot into dapper to get it
[10:45] <shanonx> LinuxJones: it is an Intel 82573V
[10:45] <blah> where do you all live
[10:45] <succubus__> hey, how can i mount my windows partition in a way so that i do not have to be su to access it in any way?
[10:45] <LjL> blah: that's a good question for #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[10:45] <osh_> LjL: Right, thanks. That means I've found a bug in the gallery package then. Thanks for you help.
[10:45] <rehpotsirhc> Mordof, and you copied the bookmarks.html file into ~/.mozilla in the new install and it didn't replace the bookmarks? did you restart firefox?
[10:45] <LjL> !tell succubus__ about ntfs
[10:45] <Mordof> rehpotsirhc, yeah
[10:46] <Mordof> rehpotsirhc, im just gonna copy the link out of the bookmarks file, i just found it
[10:46] <Blissex> wastrel: have you tried <http://localhost:631/admin> on the laptop and then 'Add printer' and then 'Name' as "Stylus-C82"
[10:46] <chelsss> weehooo
[10:46] <succubus__> thanks LjL
[10:46] <rehpotsirhc> Mordof, did you make sure the permissions on the file are set correctly?
[10:46] <LjL> is there a way to make ubuntu *not* load the vga and vesa framebuffer modules at boot?
[10:46] <Mordof> rehpotsirhc, erm.. it saved fine
[10:47] <chelsss> hello?
[10:47] <monomaco> hi, how could i configure the time for sudo use ? i get sudo: timestamp too far in the future
[10:47] <blah> hey
[10:47] <chelsss> hi
[10:47] <chelsss> we are too cool
[10:47] <blah> penis on a tree top
[10:47] <LjL> chelsss: ?
[10:47] <wastrel> Blissex:  i still need to set IPP and it wants a URI
[10:47] <chelsss> thats me!
[10:47] <chelsss> who are you
[10:47] <LjL> blah: ?
[10:48] <blah> yeah
[10:48] <chelsss> who are you
[10:48] <rehpotsirhc> Mordof, type ls -al ~/.mozilla/firefox and paste it
[10:48] <blah> =D
[10:48] <J_element>  eth1 is physical devie conected to the net. virtual-devices1-5 all have puplic ip adresses, and need normal network config :S
[10:48] <chelsss> whos LjL?
[10:48] <rehpotsirhc> Mordof, erm, type ls -al ~/.mozilla/firefox/bookmarks.html and paste it
[10:48] <jessy> can someone tell me what is the key for SUPERKEY in COMPIZ ?:)
[10:48] <rehpotsirhc> don't paste the whole thing :D
[10:48] <chelsss> is this a carney class?
[10:48] <LjL> chelsss, blah: you guys are clones, aren't you?
[10:49] <chelsss> are we?
[10:49] <Blissex> wastrel: yes, use 'ipp://<desktop>/ipp/' as the examples say
[10:49] <Mordof> rehpotsirhc, its not found in there its 1 folder deeper with a really weird name
[10:49] <Burgwork> blah, chelsss this is an Ubuntu support channel. If you are not here to get help or chat about Ubuntu, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <hackel_> So hotplug is just completely gone in dapper?
[10:49] <Burgwork> hackel_, yes
[10:49] <rehpotsirhc> Mordof, oh woops. whatever, just ls -al the path.to
[10:49] <blah> ineed some help with my computer
[10:49] <LjL> chelsss: well, you have the same IP and you're behaving like you're in here just to do some stupid chat among yourselves (which you could probably do in a query). perhaps seveas is interested to join it :)
[10:49] <chelsss> me too
[10:49] <blah> =\d
[10:49] <rehpotsirhc> so i can see the permissions
[10:49] <blah> my uri is going offline
[10:50] <blah> autmoatically
[10:50] <blah> how do i fix this cpu
[10:50] <apt514> hey, i booted 5.10 live how do i install to a empty hd?
[10:50] <chelsss> whats an IP
[10:50] <LjL> apt514: you need the install CD instead of the live CD
[10:50] <LjL> chelsss: an internet address
[10:50] <LjL> chelsss: IP is actually the internet protocol
[10:51] <john131971> hello all, need how-to for turning off on=board sis760 and then maybe my ati card will start using 3d, also how to double memory of ati card is being used
[10:51] <apt514> LjL i have 5.4 install
[10:51] <Zanub> Does anyone know why the 2.6.15-15-386 headers for dapper drake aren't yet released?
[10:51] <LjL> apt514: you mean 5.04?
[10:51] <john131971> double ck that memory of ati card is being used
[10:51] <Burgwork> Zanub, have patience. The kernel only came out yesterday
[10:51] <apt514> LjL from shipit.ubuntu
[10:51] <Zanub> Burgwork, thanks.  I was just trying to install VMware.
[10:52] <LjL> apt514: well, the current ubuntu version is 5.10. you can surely install 5.04, but if i were you, i would burn a 5.10 cd
[10:52] <LjL> apt514: (by the way, 5.04 is also known as "hoary", and 5.10 as "breezy". next version is "dapper")
[10:52] <LinuxJones> shanonx: apparently you need to load the e1000 module to get support for your network card
[10:53] <apt514> LjL Thanks does 5.04 install have wine?
[10:53] <wastrel> Blissex:  that one doesn't work :/
[10:53] <LjL> apt514: not on the CD as far as i know, but it's easy to install it from the 'net
[10:53] <wastrel> Blissex:  i've tried that and a million other permutations
[10:53] <shanonx> LinuxJones: how do I load the e1000 module during the install then?
[10:53] <Burgwork> apt514, no, wine is in universe, which is only supported by the community
[10:53] <apt514> LjL i a have 33.6k
[10:54] <LjL> apt514: that's not good =) i guess you're best off installing your Hoary then, even though most people here in the channel are more familiar with breezy
[10:54] <apt514> LjL how big is wine ?
[10:54] <wastrel> Blissex:  E [22/Feb/2006:16:51:43 -0500]  get_printer_attrs: resource name '/ipp/' no good!    <- in the error log on the desktop
[10:54] <LjL> apt514: i don't think it's terribly big... let me check
[10:55] <LjL> apt514: 14 megs. would take a while for you, but not so awfully long
[10:55] <Burgwork> LjL, apt514 you want to get the latest winehq debs from dapper, as they are much more stable
[10:55] <succubus__> okay.. that didnt work
[10:55] <apt514> LJL thanks i want to use a win32 binary
[10:55] <LinuxJones> shanonx: there should be options to load at the main install screen when you load the installer cd. You will have to have a look around where to load modules during initial install.
[10:55] <succubus__> the drive is mounted and i can view the contents but i can't load any songs in XMMS.
[10:55] <LjL> Burgwork: indeed. those are the ones i checked as being 14 megs
[10:56] <mbass> Anyone know which keyservers launchpad synchronises with?
[10:56] <LjL> apt514: is it a free program? if it is i could test it for you if it works in wine, before you start downloading
[10:56] <apt514> LJL what do i type at boot: to load everything to ram?
[10:56] <LjL> apt514: hm? i'm not sure i'm getting you here
[10:57] <pder> can ubuntu be installed on a microcomputer system?
[10:57] <LjL> apt514: what you do mean by loading everything into ram?
[10:57] <deepwoodz> i installed gsfonts-x11
[10:57] <LjL> pder: what's a microcomputer system?
[10:57] <shanonx> LinuxJones: perhaps I should get the Dapper iso and then see how it might work?
[10:57] <apt514> LJL the program is yahoo messenger
[10:57] <deepwoodz> it still isnt showing up i can see some font but some i cant
[10:57] <pder> LjL: an IBM compatible personal computer system
[10:57] <apt514> LjL to a ramdisk
[10:57] <amphi> pder: indeed it can
[10:57] <LjL> apt514: the live CD will let you install new programs, if that's what you mean (not sure how it does it though, but it does)
[10:57] <LjL> apt514: i guess it does use a ram disk for that
[10:58] <deepwoodz> when i goto macromedia flash player settings i cant see the font
[10:58] <mbass> pder: Am running Ubuntu on an IBM compatible PC right now...
[10:58] <LjL> pder: uh, well, most of us here are probably using an IBM compatible
[10:58] <succubus__> why don't my songs from my NTFS partition load into XMMS? i can view the partition fine.
[10:58] <amphi> as almost is everyone in this channel, I imagine
[10:58] <succubus__> oooh
[10:58] <wastrel> ahh about f'ing time.  Blissex http://<hostname>/printers/Stylus-C82  seems to be the magic incantation.
[10:58] <succubus__> does XMMS even support WMA?
[10:58] <pder> succubus: do you have read permission to the files?
[10:59] <succubus__> pder, i do.
[10:59] <Blissex> wastrel: ah yes, I just checked and that was indeed the idea.
[10:59] <pder> succubus: it supports wma with a plugin.  xmms-wma or alternatively xmms-mplayer
[10:59] <LjL> apt514: are you aware that there are programs installed by default in Ubuntu (namely, Gaim) which let you chat on the Yahoo! network, as well as on many others?
[10:59] <succubus__> okay.. thanks pder.
[10:59] <LinuxJones> shanonx: the chipset for the network card has been around forever. Installing Dapper probably won't help but you never know.
[11:00] <apt514> LjL Sure :) I need the voice to work
[11:00] <succubus__> i just realized they were .wma, so that would explain why they won't load.
[11:00] <wastrel> s/http/ipp/
[11:00] <ubuntu_> Laries and Germs
[11:00] <LjL> apt514: let me try installing it
[11:00] <LinuxJones> shanonx: do you have a livecd ?
[11:00] <wastrel> Blissex:  thanks for your assistance
[11:00] <ubuntu_> I am unable to mount my NTFS partitions and view in Ubuntu!
[11:00] <shanonx> LinuxJones: does dapper come like ubuntu yet, with pretty much all the stuff you would need.? ....  yes i have a live cd.
[11:00] <apt514> LjL the url is http://messenger.yahoo.com win32
[11:01] <ubuntu_> does mounting get affected within Live CD?
[11:01] <La_PaRCa> w00t. Blam! is broken in dapper!
[11:01] <deepwoodz> macromedia flash player font still not showing up after installing gsfonts-x11 (font in macromedia settings menu wont show)
[11:01] <LjL> apt514: thanks, but... that page, on my browser, shows me *linux* downloads! there's one for Red Hat and one for Debian, which could possibly work on Ubuntu
[11:01] <LinuxJones> shanonx: Dapper rocks, try the livecd and then try adding the e1000 module in a root terminal and see if your network card comes to life >> modprobe e1000
[11:02] <rehpotsirhc> apt514, there is a linux version of yahoo messenger anyway.
[11:02] <succubus__> how would i go about getting xmms-mplayer?
[11:02] <LjL> apt514: (i guess my browser might tell the yahoo site that it's running on Linux, while yours probably doesn't, so you see Windows downloads instead...?)
[11:02] <succubus__> i'm not familiar w/ the ubuntu package system.
[11:02] <apt514> LjL Thanks i just want the mic like gnomemeeting
[11:03] <LjL> apt514: this is the link to the Debian download: http://download.yahoo.com/dl/unix/ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[11:03] <Syns> whats the addy to download dapper?
[11:03] <shanonx> LinuxJones: ok let me try the live cd real fast.
[11:03] <LjL> apt514: i'm sure it's got audio support
[11:04] <apt514> LjL Can you try it? :)
[11:04] <LjL> apt514: i can see if it runs. i can't actually try it "live" as i don't have a yahoo account
[11:05] <shanonx> Syns: try this ... http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_Flight_CD_4_s63908.html
[11:05] <LjL> apt514: it's just 600kb by the way
[11:05] <apt514> LjL how do i set a new passwd?
[11:05] <apt514> 20% d/l
[11:05] <LjL> apt514: "passwd"
[11:06] <LjL> apt514: don't do that in the live cd though, i guess
[11:06] <apt514> Where's the root shell ?
[11:06] <Syns> shanonx.. are u using dapper at the moment?
[11:06] <LjL> !tell apt514 about root
[11:06] <shanonx> Syns: nope
[11:06] <La_PaRCa> I am getting the following error when I try to run blam in dapper: Unhandled Exception: System.DllNotFoundException: libblam.so any ideas?
[11:06] <apt514> And the firewall gui ? how do check it's on too?
[11:06] <B_166-ER-X> I have a separate partition for my /home , from my '/' , but if i 'reinstall' how do i make it so it wont 'overwrite' my '/home' ?
[11:06] <LjL> apt514: there's no firewall installed by default
[11:06] <shanonx> Syns: having Breezy problems on my desktop right now :(
[11:06] <apt514> What? iptables?
[11:06] <LjL> apt514: people usually recomment "firestarter" if you want a firewall
[11:06] <deepwoodz> macromedia flash player font still not showing up after installing gsfonts-x11 (font in macromedia settings menu wont show)
[11:07] <LjL> apt514: there's iptables, sure, but there are no default GUI tools installed to use iptables as a firewall
[11:07] <Syns> the only problems i ever had with breezy is getting my webcam to work..
[11:07] <bimberi> ubotu tell Syns about getdapper
[11:07] <Syns> seems spca5xx didnt work for me
[11:07] <LjL> apt514: messenger seems to run anyway
[11:07] <LjL> apt514: it's ugly, but it runs :)
[11:07] <apt514> LjL with voice?
[11:08] <apt514> LJL Where do i find the shell?
[11:08] <LjL> apt514: not sure, i don't see any audio-related stuff in the menu right now, but then i'm not logged in
[11:08] <LjL> apt514: uh... not sure in gnome, apps / accessories / terminal i guess
[11:09] <apt514> LjL terminal?
[11:09] <LjL> apt514: yeah, a terminal is a shell
[11:09] <apt514> what's the root passwd? for su
[11:09] <shanonx> LinuxJones: with the livecd had the same network interface error as well as my X server error that ive been getting.
[11:10] <LinuxJones> shanonx: that's ok can you modprobe the driver for the network card ?
[11:10] <Alexi5> why is the kubuntu channel so dead
[11:10] <shanonx> LinuxJones: nope... went back to the loading screen and is froze there
[11:10] <LjL> apt514: read the link Ubotu gave you --- there is no root password
[11:11] <LjL> apt514: and you can't use su. you should use "sudo" instead before any command that you want to run as root
[11:11] <LjL> apt514: that will ask for a password, which is you *own* user password
[11:11] <apt514> LjL Thanks i was used to 5.04 menu for root shell
[11:11] <rehpotsirhc> you can configure ubuntu to use su if you want
[11:11] <LinuxJones> shanonx: hit ctrl+alt+F3 then login
[11:11] <rehpotsirhc> it just comes disabled by default
[11:11] <LjL> rehpotsirhc: though that's not quite recommended, and it has often caused (relatively small) problems in breezy
[11:12] <Cooner750> i noticed the step in ubuntuguide.org to install Java is not working?
[11:12] <deepwoodz> Does anyone know how to get the font to show up on macromedia flash player. The font still not showing up after installing gsfonts-x11 (font in macromedia settings menu wont show)
[11:12] <LjL> !ubuntuguide
[11:12] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[11:12] <rukuartic> Does gnome actually need evolution?
[11:12] <shanonx> LinuxJones: ok Im in... and i did sudo modprobe e1000... now what?
[11:12] <ubuntu_> Gius-I cant mount my drives in Ubuntu properly! They're NTFS..will that make a difference?
[11:12] <apt514> LJL i typed at boot: live-expert and there was root&ubuntu passwd ?
[11:12] <LinuxJones> shanonx: do sudo -s
[11:13] <LinuxJones> then enter your passwd
[11:13] <we2by_> hi guys
[11:13] <LinuxJones> oops
[11:13] <mike> cannot install opera?
[11:13] <we2by_> I have composite working fine, but sometimes I got this: http://www.cinaq.net/Screenshot.png
[11:13] <shanonx> LinuxJones: ok
[11:13] <LjL> apt514: yes, that's the expected behavior when installing in expert mode
[11:13] <we2by_> look at the window border. any idea how I fix this?
[11:13] <LinuxJones> shanonx:  now do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:13] <LjL> apt514: however, most people i've met in this channel who did that run into problems
[11:14] <we2by_> I really don't know what keyword to use to search the forum
[11:14] <we2by_> :(
[11:14] <succubus__> oh boy
[11:14] <scottj> can I simply install one package that will get the main kde stuff under ubuntu? I don't really want to reinstall with kubuntu, I'd like an easy way to switch between using gnome and kde
[11:14] <LjL> apt514: i don't consider myself an expert, and so i just installed normally ;) and it's all working fine here
[11:14] <LinuxJones> shanonx:  do the same errors pop up ?
[11:14] <succubus__> is there no compiler in ubuntu?
[11:14] <amphi> we2by_: nice moss ;)
[11:14] <we2by_> thank you amd77
[11:14] <shanonx> LinuxJones: said [OK]
[11:14] <LjL> succubus__: not by default, no. it's easy to install from the 'net if you have a fast connection
[11:14] <we2by_> amd77, what is moss?
[11:14] <succubus__> i have a decent connection here at school
[11:15] <rukuartic> What runs faster, KDE or Gnome?
[11:15] <LinuxJones> shanonx:  ok now do ifconfig -a
[11:15] <amphi> we2by_: that plant stuff on your root window
[11:15] <affe_> any dapper developers in the house?
[11:15] <LjL> apt514: to be honest, i can't find a voice chat feature in yahoo messenger. perhaps i'm just looking at the wrong place
[11:15] <LjL> rukuartic: they're both dog slow
[11:15] <bimberi> scottj: installing kubuntu-desktop gets you a kubuntu setup (including all its default apps) or is that more than you want? :)
[11:15] <IdleOne> affe_:  #ubuntu+1 for dapper help
[11:15] <shanonx> LinuxJones: shows local Loopback, then the IP, Mask, and the packets...
[11:15] <rukuartic> LjL, What do you reccomend?
[11:15] <shanonx> LinuxJones: doesnt show a eth0 or eth1
[11:15] <LjL> rukuartic: KDE
[11:15] <succubus__> LjL, what's the best way?
[11:15] <LinuxJones> shanonx:  bah argh :(
[11:16] <neiras> rukuartic: Both are a bit slow if you have less than 512MB of RAM
[11:16] <apt514> LjL it's only for win32 users i guess :)
[11:16] <LjL> succubus__: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[11:16] <rukuartic> LjL, Its faster?
[11:16] <rukuartic> neiras, 256 XD
[11:16] <Angel_Dex> i cannot send anything to anyone thru gaim or Xchat why so?
[11:16] <neiras> rukuartic:  I use gnome on a laptop with 256MB, it's not too bad if you disable all the crazy international fonts
[11:16] <LjL> rukuartic: hm no, not really... it's slow in a different way. to me, it feels like gnome is consistently slow, while kde is more temperamental :)
[11:16] <rukuartic> neiras, How'd you do that?
[11:16] <shanonx> LinuxJones: out of luck?
[11:16] <LjL> rukuartic: but the reason i prefer KDE is really not speed anyway
[11:16] <ConfidentiaL> LjL : The reinstall didnt work...
[11:16] <rukuartic> LjL, Haha I perfer temperamental over consistancy
[11:17] <LinuxJones> shanonx:  I suspect :(
[11:17] <succubus__> thanks
[11:17] <ssstormy> for some reason, whenever I try adding the volume control applet to one of my user's panel, it loads without an icon
[11:17] <apt514> LJL the deb doesn't  open?
[11:17] <neiras> rukuartic:  I removed all the stuff in /usr/share/fonts/truetype that I never used
[11:17] <LiteHedded> my dns resolution is going very slow for some reason
[11:17] <neiras> rukuartic:  then restarted X
[11:17] <shanonx> LinuxJones: think dapper wouldbe any better? o
[11:17] <ssstormy> and all the other users still load with the applet just fine
[11:17] <LjL> apt514: "open"? you don't open a deb, you type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb" ;)
[11:17] <apt514> LjL 652.9k?
[11:17] <amphi> LiteHedded: use dnsmasq
[11:17] <LinuxJones> shanonx:  well it's worth a try :D
[11:17] <ssstormy> is there anyway I can cannibalize whatever setting is doing that?
[11:17] <LiteHedded> wha'ts dnsmasq?
[11:17] <LjL> apt514: yes
[11:18] <amphi> shanonx: e1000 is still not working for you?
[11:18] <ubuntu_> I di sidu and nothing mounts still
[11:18] <shanonx> amphi: nope :(
[11:18] <succubus__> LjL, is aptitude similar to apt-get? i am new to ubuntu, i apologize.
[11:18] <neiras> rukuartic:  You should also keep the number of panel applets to a minimum, and if you can live without a desktop, hiding it using gconf also seems to speed things up
[11:18] <amphi> LiteHedded: a caching dns forwarder - apt-cache show dnsmasq
[11:18] <LjL> succubus__: i recommend aptitude.
[11:18] <rukuartic> neiras, In the end I'm running a server, but I'd like to keep things small...
[11:18] <shanonx> amphi: its like it has the module but still doesnt recognize the network adapter at all
[11:18] <rukuartic> neiras, And there's only a handful of fonts in there that only take up 4 k...
[11:18] <neiras> rukuartic:  You shouldn't even install X on a server
[11:19] <rukuartic> neiras, Eeheheh... It still needs to be a bit of a desktop
[11:19] <succubus__> LjL, thanks a lot.
[11:19] <neiras> rukuartic:  unless you're serving up X apps over the network
[11:19] <LiteHedded> that will make my browser resolve domain names faster?
[11:19] <rukuartic> neiras, What would you reccomend to do to optomize gnome?
[11:19] <neiras> rukuartic - if you're not really using it for a desktop, try xubuntu-desktop - it's a usable graphical interface without all the huge GNOME bits
[11:19] <amphi> LiteHedded: it caches dns lookups, so yes, after the first lookup
[11:20] <LiteHedded> delete it and install KDE :D
[11:20] <LiteHedded> ok thanks amphi
[11:20] <LiteHedded> anything special to configure it?
[11:20] <amphi> LiteHedded: TFM is you friend
[11:20] <apt514> LjL depends and errors?! ;(
[11:20] <amphi> *your
[11:20] <rukuartic> neiras, It still looks good? Just apt-get it?
[11:20] <neiras> rukuartic:  It's XFCE - http://www.xfce.org/
[11:20] <LjL> apt514: yeah, it fails on libssl0.9.6 for me
[11:20] <LiteHedded> yes of course the ever popular rtfm response
[11:20] <LjL> apt514: just "sudo aptitude install libssl0.9.6", and same for any other packages it complains about
[11:21] <avu> hi
[11:21] <neiras> rukuartic:  apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, then log out and pick the XFCE session before logging back in
[11:21] <steph> i'm trying to run ubuntu (on a live disk) on a friends pc, but x won't load (video problem?)
[11:21] <amphi> shanonx: what do you see in syslog? perhaps modprobe -r e1000, tail -f /var/log/syslog and modprobe the module again
[11:21] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:21] <Anti-Proton>  Would someone be willing to help me out with a xinerama config?
[11:21] <sethk> steph, is that a question?
[11:21] <rukuartic> neiras, But I can still run regular apps?
[11:21] <steph> sethk: yas
[11:21] <steph> yes
[11:22] <rukuartic> neiras, Der bad wording... I mean like amaroK and GAIM
[11:22] <neiras> rukuartic:  of course you can :D
[11:22] <apt514> LjL aptitude gui ?
[11:22] <sethk> steph, well, then restate it, because it isn't clear what you are asking.
[11:22] <ibmnotebook> does anybody play "five or more"?
[11:22] <neiras> rukuartic:  XFCE is based on GTK, same as GNOME - it's just a different environment. Your environment of choice has no bearing on which apps you can run for the most part
[11:22] <deepwoodz> Does anyone know how to get the font to show up on macromedia flash player. The font still not showing up after installing gsfonts-x11 (font in macromedia settings menu wont show)
[11:23] <rukuartic> neiras, "for the most part"? and whats the advantage of installing xubuntu-desktop vs. xfce?
[11:23] <Anti-Proton> It's on a laptop, and the laptop display is functioning normally. The external monitor doesn't seem to be displaying the correct resolution. There is a significant amount of display area around the actual image that is displayed that isn't being utilized
[11:23] <steph> i appear to have a video problem (ati radeon xpress 200), are there drivers?
[11:23] <hackel_> Sadly, even using just XFCE it still needs more than 128M RAM stopping me from using it on older machines.
[11:23] <hackel_> deepwoodz:  Did you restart X?
[11:23] <Burgwork> rukuartic, xubuntu-desktop gets you all the xubuntu customizations, much like what Ubuntu does to gnome
[11:23] <sethk> steph, there are, but I don't see where that helps with a live CD
[11:23] <deepwoodz> restart x?
[11:23] <neiras> rukuartic:  xubuntu-desktop IS XFCE - it's just a full XFCE package provided by ubuntu
[11:23] <deepwoodz> how do i do that?
[11:23] <ssstormy> rukuartic, if you don't install the libraries for a family of apps (i.e. KDE apps when you run Gnome) you can'y use KDE apps
[11:23] <rukuartic> neiras, Sweet.
[11:24] <ssstormy> rukuartic, that's all
[11:24] <rukuartic> ssstormy, Yeah I installed 'em :P
[11:24] <apt514> LjL Thanks for the sudo info
[11:24] <rukuartic> Burgwork, thanks for the info
[11:24] <hackel_> steph:  I've got that card on my laptop and it works fine for me.
[11:24] <neiras> rukuartic:  GIve it a shot anyway - I don't really like XFCE but it is definitely fast and decent looking
[11:24] <LjL> apt514: no i advice against using aptitude's gui
[11:24] <Burgwork> rukuartic, np
[11:24] <rukuartic> neiras, Now if I go start amarok (for example) will it go and load a bunch of other things (like KDE) to help it run?
[11:25] <steph> hackel_: did you install, or live cd?
[11:25] <LjL> apt514: they say it has some bad bugs (didn't check them myself), and i don't like it anyway ;)
[11:25] <neiras> rukuartic:  no.
[11:25] <darnellkeith_> is there a faster server for downloading dapper, im connected at 11.5kb
[11:25] <shanonx> amphi: ok  I did that and in my log it shows no errors related to the Network adapter,  Does say " Intel Pro/1000 Network Driver <version> Local host kernel Copyright Intel Corp.
[11:25] <neiras> rukuartic:  Although if you look in XFCE settings, it has a special "GNOME support" and "KDE support" pair of options to make sure those apps work
[11:25] <Burgwork> darnellkeith_, try one of the other mirrors
[11:25] <hackel_> darnellkeith_:  faster than WHAT?  I just downloaded it at 500Kbb/s.
[11:25] <Anti-Proton> oh.. n/m it works normally now
[11:25] <TTilus> rukuartic: it will go and load "bunch of other things", but definitely not KDE
[11:25] <david> after installing the ati proprietary driver the gpu-fan goes on 100% almost all the time (wich is quite annoying), is there something I can do?
[11:26] <darnellkeith_> my dsl is 3.7 -5 megs
[11:26] <rukuartic> neiras, Heh... thanks. Would there be any way to shut down Xorg and just be left with a console and all the apps running that I previously started?
[11:26] <pilsen> anyone in here who use vmware?
[11:26] <neiras> rukuartic:  It'll just load the frameworks each app needs, not the full GNOME or KDE desktops
[11:26] <darnellkeith_> im connecting at 12kbs now
[11:26] <LjL> rukuartic: not X apps
[11:26] <LjL> rukuartic: you can certainly *switch* to a console though :)
[11:26] <steph> pilsen: on windows
[11:26] <TTilus> darnellkeith_: try out others or go with bittorrent
[11:26] <rukuartic> LJL, Well of course I'd lose my x apps
[11:26] <LjL> pilsen: have you tried qemu? that's free software
[11:26] <neiras> rukuartic:  CTRL-ALT-FI, log in, do sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[11:27] <neiras> F!
[11:27] <neiras> F1
[11:27] <LjL> rukuartic: well then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" if you've got gnome
[11:27] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:27] <pilsen> i install qemu but no idea how to use it :(
[11:27] <rukuartic> neiras, , So if I switched to a console would that decrease memory usage?
[11:27] <LjL> rukuartic: "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" if you've got kde
[11:27] <luite> why is the latest smp kernel in dapper still at 2.6.12? do I need to add a repository for more recent smp kernels?
[11:27] <neiras> rukuartic:  If X is not running, you're definitely saving on memory usage... but I thought you wanted a graphical interface
[11:27] <TTilus> darnellkeith_: have you checked which ubuntu mirror is closest to you, Internetwise cosest
[11:28] <rukuartic> neiras, Well I go away from my box 60% of the time
[11:28] <apt514> LjL Yeah so gaim works but needs voice :)
[11:28] <darnellkeith_> whats the addy again.. sorry
[11:28] <LjL> pilsen: well, it's not too hard. you should first run "qemu-img" to create an hard drive image... the syntax is "qemu-img create -f qcow filename maximumsize"
[11:28] <rukuartic> but I'd like to have it 40% of the time
[11:28] <hackel_> apt514:  Just use Skype for voice.  Seriously.
[11:28] <LjL> apt514: gaim? that one you installed is not gaim, it's yahoo messenger :)
[11:28] <neiras> Just so everyone knows, calling 'invoke-rc.d foobar stop' is the same as '/etc/init.d/foobar stop'
[11:29] <shanonx> amphi: any other ideas?
[11:29] <ivo_> Hey!!! :) i got this file lmms-0.1.4-1.pm.1.i586.rpm how to i install them ? sombady help me plz
[11:29] <LjL> hackel_: skype is a proprietary protocol, and many free software advocates wholeheardtely advice against using it. i'm not sure yahoo is any better, but i *am* sure there are many fine free software alternatives
[11:29] <biovore> ivo_: look at alien
[11:29] <apt514> LjL i mean in /apps/internet/gaim
[11:29] <biovore> ivo_: alien installs rpms
[11:29] <pilsen> so qemu its a windows emulator?
[11:29] <biovore> pilsen: qemu is a bad version of vmware
[11:29] <pilsen> or something like that?
[11:30] <ivo_> biovore where i can find a alien ?
[11:30] <hackel_> LjL:  Yahoo/MSN/etc. are ALL propreitary.  Skype at least was released for Linux.  But you're right, using a SIP client like Ekiga would be ideal.
[11:30] <biovore> ivo_: apt-get install alien
[11:30] <LjL> pilsen: then you run "qemu imagefilename", and it starts. of course it won't do anything at that point, because there's no OS installed... but then just insert an OS cd-rom, and use "qemu -hdc -boot d imagefilename"
[11:30] <biovore> ivo_: man alien
[11:30] <pilsen> ivo_ biovore where i can find a alien ?<--- apt-get install alien
[11:30] <TTilus> pilsen: not emulator, virtualization
[11:30] <nathaniel> I'm having problems with using the make command.  I get a bunch of errors like /usr/include/c++/4.0.2/bits/postypes.h:175: error: streamoff has not been declared....I just reinstalled Ubuntu and the same program compiles elsewhere
[11:30] <neiras> ivo_: apt-get install fakeroot alien; fakeroot alien lmms-0.1.4-1.pm.1.i586.rpm; dpkg -i lmms*.deb
[11:30] <dooglus> I last looked at the this window 2 hours ago.  ivo was asking how to install alien then, too.
[11:30] <biovore> pilsen: use apt to fetch the package
[11:30] <pilsen> ahh ok
[11:31] <LjL> hackel_: or an h323 client, h323 is not evil either
[11:31] <biovore> apt-get is the comand line function..
[11:31] <succubus__> LjL, i still can't 'make' anything
[11:31] <darnellkeith_> i dont see a list of mirror sites
[11:31] <rukuartic> neiras, Any way to turn on/off xorg when I need it/don't need it?
[11:31] <ivo_> I got this 3 Permission denied
[11:31] <pilsen> coz i just installed vmware
[11:31] <hackel_> LjL:  Last I used h323, it was -very- evil. :-P
[11:31] <LjL> succubus__: it still says "make" cannot be found?
[11:31] <neiras> rukuartic:  You could set it not to start up on boot, and only start it when you need it
[11:31] <pilsen> but ill try first qemu
[11:31] <we2by_> my keyboard does not work when using it on a object on the desktop
[11:31] <dooglus> ivo_: did you try installing lmms using synaptic?
[11:31] <we2by_> like trying to delete something from the desktop
[11:31] <rukuartic> neiras, startx I assume?
[11:31] <LiteHedded> dns masq isnt' working it's still slow
[11:31] <we2by_> :(
[11:31] <LjL> hackel_: well i mean "evil" in the sense of "not free software" ;)
[11:31] <TTilus> hackel_: there are evil *implementations*
[11:31] <ivo_> I don;t know i newbie
[11:32] <neiras> rukuartic:  To make it not start on boot, do "sudo rc-update -f gdm remove"
[11:32] <TTilus> hackel_: h323 is not evil itself
[11:32] <succubus__> no, it just gives errors for every step of the process then quits
[11:32] <neiras> or kdm if you're on KDE
[11:32] <TTilus> hackel_: gnomemeeting is non-evil implementation  :)
[11:32] <jouni__m> luite 2.6.12-10 is most new kernel in breezy
[11:32] <neiras> rukuartic:  Yeah, startx would then work
[11:32] <hackel_> TTilus:  perhaps not, I just remember many frustrated attempts at using gnomemeeting and how amazing skype quality was when I tried it. :-P
[11:32] <rukuartic> neiras, would that start gnome as well? or just X?
[11:32] <succubus__> thinks like: xmms-wma.c:610: error: invalid type argument of ->
[11:32] <LjL> rukuartic: no need to startx, you can just call the script manually... i.e. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:32] <dooglus> ivo_: do you need version 0.1.4?
[11:32] <ivo_> yes
[11:32] <rukuartic> LjL, Ah...
[11:32] <neiras> rukuartic:  If your default X session is GNOME, startx would start GNOME
[11:33] <apt514> LjL does hoary install use gparted to partition?
[11:33] <dooglus> ivo_: 0.1.2 no good?
[11:33] <Anti-Proton> Is there a trick to getting VLC to do fullscreen video on a secondary display?
[11:33] <TTilus> hackel_: h323 is just plain ancient and does not work very well in net as of today
[11:33] <thought> hello
[11:33] <LjL> apt514: no, the installer is completely text-mode, so it definitely doesn't use gparted. it might (and probably does) use parted though
[11:33] <ivo_> dooglus i don"t know i wery bad know english i need install rpm files can u help me plz/
[11:33] <ivo_> ?
[11:33] <Anti-Proton> It acts as if it is fullscreen, but does not cover the entire display
[11:33] <hackel_> TTilus:  Yeah that's why I suggested SIP at first, which gnomemeeting switched to as well.
[11:33] <avu> on the distribution I used before ubuntu, the sixth mouse button triggered the same action as the third, ob ubuntu, it does not do anything. How do I change that?
[11:34] <neiras> rukuartic:  You're full of questions today :)
[11:34] <hackel_> avu:  copy the configuration you had in the distribution you used before Ubuntu.
[11:34] <biovore> avu: ubuntu's default X install dosn't setup extended buttons
[11:34] <biovore> X setup
[11:34] <LjL> hackel_, TTilus: my own telephone line is an h323 connection :)
[11:34] <avu> hackel_: I don't have that anymore. I only remember the protocol (IMPS/2) which is the same, ubuntu uses.
[11:34] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:35] <avu> biovore: so, how do I set up these extended buttons?
[11:35] <shanonx>  well thanks to everyone that has tried to help me today!
[11:35] <LiteHedded> dnsmasq doesn't work
[11:35] <rukuartic> neiras, Always am :P
[11:35] <neiras> :)
[11:35] <LiteHedded> or I haven't done something I dunno
[11:35] <apt514> LJL in breezy gparted is is apps/sys tools
[11:35] <dooglus> ivo_: get the source from http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/lmms/lmms-0.1.4.tar.bz2 and build it for yourself
[11:35] <we2by_> weird problem here
[11:35] <we2by_> my keyboard does not work for the desktop
[11:35] <LjL> apt514: but it's still not used by the installer
[11:35] <we2by_> only for the applicaiotns window
[11:36] <we2by_> window
[11:36] <nathaniel> Hey, I just reinstalled Ubuntu, I installed G++ 4:4.0.1-3 and Make, and i get tons of errors when I try to compile....it compiled before I reinstalled and it compiles on another machine
[11:36] <ivo_> dooglus how to i build?
[11:36] <rukuartic> neiras, rc-update doesn't seem to exist... is it in sbin?
[11:36] <apt514> LjL sure, i'd like to see it at boot:
[11:36] <rukuartic> neiras, I whereis the application but it comes up with null
[11:36] <LjL> nathaniel: you should install build-essential instead of gcc and make separately
[11:37] <we2by_> mhh
[11:37] <LjL> apt514: but you don't. perhaps we'll see it in dapper, who knows
[11:37] <nathaniel> oh, ok....I couldn't remember what that command was...thanks
[11:37] <we2by_> window
[11:37] <neiras> rukuartic:  you need to do "sudo rc-update"
[11:37] <LjL> apt514: you can always use a livecd when you need to run gparted on your boot partition, in any case
[11:37] <dooglus> ivo_: in a terminal, "tar xf lmms*.bz2; sudo apt-get build-dep lmms; cd lmms; ./configure; make" or something like that
[11:37] <neiras> rukuartic:  It's only available to the superuser
[11:37] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:37] <rukuartic> neiras, command not found?
[11:37] <neiras> rukuartic:  seriously?!?
[11:37] <avatar_> i have an issue with dapper and xorg-driver-fglrx: apparently this package is not updating libGL and is using Mesa's libGL. how can i fix this?
[11:37] <rukuartic> sudo: rc-update: command not found
[11:38] <neiras> rukuartic:  Sorry. Command name is update-rc.d
[11:38] <rukuartic> rukuartic@HALFLIGHT:/sbin$ whereis rc-update |
[11:38] <rukuartic> rc-update:
[11:38] <Rawplayer> startkeylogger
[11:38] <rukuartic> neiras, Oh :P
[11:38] <neiras> rukuartic:  use update-rc.d... my mistake
[11:38] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:38] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:38] <nathaniel> One other question...Has anyone tried installing ATI Mobility Drivers into breezey?
[11:38] <neiras> rukuartic:  My old Gentoo habits poison my very being
[11:38] <rukuartic> DX
[11:38] <rukuartic> **XD
[11:39] <ivo_> dooglus ok big tnx for helping me U are THE MAN :D
[11:39] <LjL> neiras: don't funroll your loops
[11:39] <apt514> LjL i'm tempted to install the xp on a 3g hd if i can not get wine to go
[11:39] <ConfidentiaL> nathaniel : yes
[11:39] <rukuartic> neiras, Thats a cool command...
[11:39] <rukuartic> neiras, So if I wanted to add something I could say sudo "update-rc.d httpd" or something?
[11:39] <ConfidentiaL> nathaniel : but not without problems:
[11:39] <ConfidentiaL> nathaniel : but not without problems:
[11:39] <LjL> apt514: i can still try the win32 version. can you give me a direct link to the download, as the main page only shows me linux versions?
[11:40] <nathaniel> ahh
[11:40] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:40] <neiras> rukuartic:  apt-get install sysvconfig if you want a nice overview of which services are scheduled for boot time
[11:40] <dooglus> ivo_: you're welcome.  good luck.
[11:40] <ivo_> tnx : )
[11:40] <dooglus> ivo_: I'm sorry it took so long!
[11:40] <wa77x> is there a way to edit grub so it only lists Ubuntu and Winxp and not memtest and failsafe mode and what not ?
[11:40] <ivo_> Its ok :)
[11:40] <neiras> rukuartic:  You would use update-rc.d to add services to runlevels, yes
[11:40] <LjL> wa77x: what do you have against memtest and failsafe mode? they're useful :) anyway, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:41] <LjL> wa77x: i would keep safe mode honetly
[11:41] <wa77x> LjL alright
[11:41] <wa77x> ill keep the fail safe
[11:41] <wa77x> it seems cluttered
[11:42] <neiras> LjL - failsafe mode is scary if you don't trust your roomates - it's a free root login for anyone who wants it unless you have a GRUB password set. Most people don't
[11:42] <rukuartic> neiras, Whoo. And then I can use sysvconfig to fine tune things?
[11:42] <LjL> wa77x: well perhaps you could simply change the names to, say, "Test system memory" and "Recovery boot", to get a tidier appearence... that's still done in menu.lst
[11:43] <apt514> LjL excellent!!
[11:43] <dooglus> ivo_: I just tried it, and it seems to be working.  I pasted a log here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9138
[11:43] <neiras> rukuartic:  You could use sysvconfig to do everything you'd use update-rc.d for
[11:43] <wa77x> ty =)
[11:43] <neiras> it's a different interface to the same thing
[11:43] <LjL> neiras: well, as far as i know, you can still do that using init=/bin/sh (though i'm not sure that would really work with a "rootless" distribution like ubuntu, but i think it would)
[11:43] <hackel_> neiras:  You still have to enter your root password to do anything in failsafe mode.
[11:43] <Alexi5> hello
[11:43] <LjL> neiras: but even if it doesn't, it's just a matter of knowing the right kernel parameters. not hard
[11:44] <rukuartic> neiras, Whats the point of having "SXX" or "KXX" for the runlevels?
[11:44] <Seveas> LjL, it would, there's no login program
[11:44] <SealyDave> hi, i did all my wiki reads but still having issues installing Linksys usb adapter. ndiswrapper -l shows driver  present but still no lights
[11:44] <Seveas> rukuartic, S means start, K means kill, see man update-rc.d
[11:44] <rukuartic> Seveas, Thanks :D
[11:44] <LjL> Seveas: yes that's what i suspected. fortunately i never had to boot with init=/bin/sh in ubuntu as of yet ;)
[11:44] <ivo_> dooglus ooo i love u :D tnxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[11:44] <neiras> rukuartic:  Seveas beat me to it
[11:44] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:45] <neiras> This channel needs a help karma system
[11:45] <neiras> It'd be fun!
[11:45] <Alexi5> i have ubuntu installed and i have kubuntu cd. I want to install the kde kdesktop on ubuntu while keeping ubuntu GDM (Gnome desktop manager). i would like to know if i can ad kde by using the kubuntu disk instead of redownloading the kubuntu desktop from apt get
[11:45] <Seveas> it'd be annoying
[11:45] <rukuartic> neiras, But the two digits afterwards have nothing to do with anything?
[11:45] <neiras> Seveas:  Not if it was all handled in private chat
[11:46] <ivo_> dooglus ups i got problem when i build lmms i got this You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[11:46] <ivo_> =\
[11:46] <neiras> rukuartic:  They represent startup precedence
[11:46] <neiras> rukuartic:  within the runlevel
[11:46] <LjL> neiras: you really need a grub password to have anything resembling console users not being able to get root. you also need a bios password, otherwise they'll just boot from a floppy/cd. and even then, you can't really keep somebody intentioned to gain root from getting it
[11:46] <Seveas> Alexi5, pop in the kubuntu disk, use apt-cdrom add and do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. afterwards do dpkg-reconfigure kdm and update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[11:46] <rukuartic> neiras, So 00 would be high, 99 would be low?
[11:46] <Seveas> rukuartic, no
[11:46] <dooglus> ivo_: right.  what version ubuntu do you use?
[11:46] <neiras> rukuartic:  Reverse that
[11:46] <Alexi5> ok
[11:47] <LinuxJones> Alexi5: it will ask you if you want to use kdm or gdm as part of the installation of kubuntu-desktop
[11:47] <ivo_> 5.10
[11:47] <Alexi5> ok
[11:47] <ConfidentiaL> How do I get like a stylish background on the terminal?
[11:47] <LjL> rukuartic, neiras: what, the karma, or the runlevel pri? :)
[11:47] <rukuartic> LjL, runlevels :P
[11:47] <Seveas> !karma LjL--
[11:47] <ubotu> ljl-- has neutral karma
[11:47] <neiras> see, that's annoying
[11:47] <white_tiger> ConfidentiaL, depence what terminal?
[11:47] <LjL> heh
[11:47] <neiras> teach ubotu to talk in private, damn it
[11:47] <neiras> hahah
[11:48] <Seveas> neiras, and non-functional ;)
[11:48] <jerrod> java?
[11:48] <LjL> ubotu *does* talk in private ;)
[11:48] <ubotu> LjL: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:48] <dooglus> ivo_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9139 shows what you can use in /etc/apt/sources.lst for it to work
[11:48] <ConfidentiaL> white_tiger : the normal one that is included in ubuntu 5.10
[11:48] <LjL> ... and it doesn't understand when one is *not* addressing it
[11:48] <Alexi5> thanks
[11:48] <kurt_> servus freeks
[11:48] <SealyDave> anybody a ndiswrapper guru?
[11:48] <wa77x> LjL, i dont want to delete the lines i dont want, is # used for commenting ? is it ## ? how many lol
[11:48] <LjL> wa77x: in what file?
[11:49] <ConfidentiaL> white_tiger : well, if I need to install a new one to get it stylish i dont mind....
[11:49] <kurt_> bin neu hier und suche fr mda vario auf linux eine lsung ??
[11:49] <Seveas> !de
[11:49] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[11:49] <rukuartic> SealyDave, What can I help ya with? I got a few bits of experience
[11:49] <LjL> wa77x: it's just # for shell scripts, as well as many config files
[11:49] <SealyDave> need to install alinksys usb adapter
[11:49] <hume> anyone here knows how to connect a Palm through bluetooth to an ubuntu laptop? I jsut cant make it work
[11:49] <rukuartic> neiras, Thanks alot fer yer help :D
[11:49] <wa77x> this is for the menu/lst
[11:49] <kurt_> bin neu hier und suche fr mda vario auf linux eine lsung ??
[11:49] <wa77x> menu.lst***
[11:49] <rukuartic> SealyDave, You have ndiswrapper installed?
[11:49] <Seveas> kurt_, #ubuntu0de bitte
[11:49] <SealyDave> yeah
[11:49] <Seveas> #ubuntu-de
[11:49] <neiras> rukuartic:  No problem, any time
[11:50] <LjL> kurt_: hast du was ubotu sagte gelesht? es gibt #ubuntu-de
[11:50] <white_tiger> ConfidentiaL, If I recall correct there is an option in kde-terminal to set background
[11:50] <kurt_> danke
[11:50] <SealyDave> when i do a ndiswrapper -l it shows driver preset, but no hardware present
[11:51] <ivo_> dooglus i got this when i put the comand bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[11:51] <ivo_> =\
[11:51] <apt514> LJL where do i find firestarter?
[11:51] <ConfidentiaL> white_tiger : kde-terminal, that would be the normal one I was talking about?
[11:51] <rukuartic> ivo_, you go as root? try using sudo
[11:51] <LjL> apt514: "sudo aptitude install firestarter". if it's not found, then you need to enable universe
[11:51] <ivo_> okz
[11:52] <ivo_> this goes like this sudo  sudo-apt-get /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:52] <ivo_>  ?
[11:53] <SealyDave> its a linksys WUSBG54g
[11:53] <DrCurl> Hello
[11:53] <apt514> LjL How do enable universe?
[11:53] <LjL> ivo_: no, that makes no sense. what you trying to do?
[11:53] <LjL> !tell apt514 about repos
[11:53] <ivo_> i trying open source.list
[11:53] <DrCurl> Someone knows why tomboy is in official ubuntu and beagle isn't?
[11:53] <Macbeth> anyone know how to start Azureus without sudo?
[11:53] <LjL> ivo_: then it's "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:53] <rukuartic> SealyDave, Do you have ndiswrapper installed?
[11:53] <Seveas> !info tomboy
[11:53] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ]
[11:53] <ubotu> tomboy: (desktop note taking program using Wiki style links), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.3.2-9ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 141 kB, Installed size: 776 kB
[11:53] <SealyDave> yes ndis wrappe ris installed
[11:53] <munzir> Hi, on my system any user can see/list all the databases. I solved this by "revoke show databases on *.* from user@localhost" but whenever I restart mysqld I need to redo this! How can I fix this? I tried to add "safe-show-database" to my.cnf to no avail!
[11:53] <Seveas> !info beagle
[11:53] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ]
[11:54] <ubotu> beagle: (Desktop search tool), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 836 kB, Installed size: 3100 kB
[11:54] <Stukkm> Hello
[11:54] <david> Hello: when trying to compile a c program in anjuta, I get an error: stdio.h; the file doesn't exist
[11:54] <sethk> david, most likely the file doesn't exist
[11:54] <Twisty> !cedegainstall
[11:54] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Twisty
[11:54] <sethk> david, make sure you've installed the build-essential package
[11:55] <LjL> twisty, you tried that before, there is no "cedegainstall" factoid ;) also, you should private message the bot when you don't know if a factoid exists
[11:55] <IdleOne> !firestarter
[11:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[11:55] <kurt_> wo kann ich ubuntde finden
[11:55] <kurt_> ubuntode
[11:55] <david> build-essential? but that's for building Debian packages, isn't it?
[11:55] <LjL> kurt_: schrieb    /join #ubuntu-de
[11:55] <Macbeth> anyone know how to start Azureus without sudo? changing the file permison to my corrent user doesn't make any difference
[11:55] <IdleOne> !firestarterinfo
[11:55] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[11:56] <Fujitsu> david, no. It is general compiler stuff.
[11:56] <LjL> kurt_: ein neues fenster mit den deutchen kanal wird ffnen
[11:56] <DrCurl> Anyone using beagle here? working ok?
[11:56] <neiras> an addendum - if you're looking for a nice firewall tool that isn't graphical, try shorewall
[11:56] <neiras> beagle's great, but leaks lots of memory
[11:56] <LjL> david: no
[11:56] <LjL> david: build-essential includes essential packages for building just about anything, namely gcc, g++, make...
[11:57] <SealyDave> so the lights are still not lit
[11:57] <david> Ok, yes, I've installed it and now it compiles. :)
[11:57] <bimberi> david:  you might be thinking of debian-builder :)
[11:57] <SealyDave> but ndsiwrapper -l shows driver present
[11:58] <david> But it doesn't build: make*** Objective was not specified and a makefile couldn't be found.
[11:58] <kurt_> knhj
[11:58] <LjL> david: that just means there is no makefile in the directory you're in ;)
[11:58] <LjL> david: is there a "Makefile" or "makefile" file there?
[11:58] <david> yes, Makefile.am
[11:58] <DrCurl> neiras, the memory leaks of beagle, is it noticable on a laptop that I reboot at least every day or is it slowly building over several days?
[11:58] <OmegaAlpha> hey Seveas why was there a bot in here. what do they do?
[11:59] <anto9us> SealyDave, once ndiswrapper has installed your driver you need to configure the device, use sudo iwconfig wlan0
[11:59] <LjL> david: that's not a makefile
[11:59] <LjL> david: type   ./configure
[11:59] <apt514> LjL Thanks for the info
[11:59] <Seveas> OmegaAlpha, apart from being annoying - they're more annoying
[12:00] <neiras> DrCurl - I think it really depends on what searches you run
[12:00] <benkong2> how can I tell if my usb drive is available for mounting? ubuntu breezy x86_64


[05:13] <lnxg33k> how to switch between keyboard layouts on xubuntu 10.04?
[05:14] <persia> You may find that #xubuntu is a better channel to get support for Xubuntu.
[16:03] <bdmurray> I don't seem to have an ubuntu cloak and wanted to get one setup
[16:04] <vish> bdmurray: just paste your lp id here.. and ircc should get to it soon
[16:04] <bdmurray> brian-murray is my lp id
[16:08] <topyli> bdmurray: would you prefer ubuntu/member/bdmurray or */brian-murray?
[16:10] <topyli> any staff awake? we would like an ubuntu/member cloak for bdmurray please
[16:11] <bdmurray> brian-murray sounds good to me - thanks
[16:26]  * topyli pokes bdmurray to check his private messages
[16:36] <topyli> all set
[18:49] <_Alucard> Hello
[18:49] <_Alucard> I would like a custom cloak of the network:
[18:49] <_Alucard> ubuntu/member/alucard
[18:49] <_Alucard> Launchpad Profile:
[18:49] <_Alucard> https://launchpad.net/~linux.alucard
[18:49] <_Alucard> Unfortunately the English is very poor
[18:50] <vish> !membership | _Alucard
[18:50] <vish> _Alucard: the Ubuntu cloak is only for Ubuntu members
[18:50] <vish> _Alucard: once you become an Ubuntu member you can request your cloak here..
[18:51] <_Alucard> I understand and thank you!
[18:51] <_Alucard> bye!
[18:51] <vish> you're welcome :)
[18:53] <vish> hmm, looks like "hedufh" is yankees fan's new nick
[18:53] <gnomefreak> he pmed me :(
[18:53] <vish> btw, why does this keep happening in #u " * FloodBot3 removes channel operator status from FloodBot1"  ?
[18:54] <vish> gnomefreak: well, thats new..
[18:54] <gnomefreak> conflict in bots
[18:55] <gnomefreak> he pmed me the same thing that i removed him for but too busy to deal with him and get no where
[18:55] <vish> heh, i think some can notify the staff and kick him from freenode
[18:56]  * gnomefreak checks but i think he used !staff command in -ops
[18:57] <gnomefreak> he did and got no output from bot
[18:57] <vish>  yea, he is on ignore.. repeat offender
[18:57] <vish> bot just got tired of him ;p
[18:57] <gnomefreak> vish: is he bothering any other channels
[18:58] <vish> gnomefreak: several channels, several occasions
[18:58] <vish> its been for the past month
[18:58] <gnomefreak> he was klined
[19:00] <vish> all he says is either use the !o or !s and say "I'm a gangster". "band me" or "% ubuntu"
[19:01] <vish> s/all he says/all he does
[19:01] <gnomefreak> well he was well above using nice words. he is a fan of 4 letter words over and over again
[19:02] <vish> sheesh, people need to talk a walk ;)
[19:02] <vish> arr! take*
[19:04] <gnomefreak> those are 2 4 letter words i wish came out of his mouth but no matter he is over for now. i thought you were in -ops but i also thought you were an op
[19:04]  * gnomefreak been away too long
[19:04]  * vish an op only on one channel :)
[19:05] <gnomefreak> ah
[19:05] <vish> and its not a core channel, so i'm not allowed to sit with the big boys/girls ;p
[19:05] <gnomefreak> what channel?
[19:05] <vish>  -artwork
[19:05] <gnomefreak> oh
[19:10] <vish> gnomefreak: you quit smoking yet? ;)
[19:10]  * vish remembers gnomefreak being a chain-smoker sort.. ;p
[19:14] <gnomefreak> yep but i try to keep it around 1 an hour-hour and 1/2
[19:14] <gnomefreak> i figure something is going to kill me be it my heart/car/age/smoking to i figure why not be happy until than
[19:15] <gnomefreak> ok lets see what compiz can do


[02:39] <Jordan_U> The syntax of ubottu has made me realize how often the word "is" is used in normal English sentences.
[02:41] <elky> we tend to define things a lot
[02:50] <Jordan_U> That is silly.
[02:57] <Jordan_U> Should I/we not support Logos01 in #ubuntu since they're dual booting with hackintosh'd OSX?
[03:11] <elky> dual booting, or fusion?
[03:11] <Jordan_U> Dual booting. Chameleon is a bootloader for hackintoshes.
[03:12] <elky> and depending on that, support them, or support them up until the point you can't be absolutely sure that it's not the fusion
[03:12] <Jordan_U> (Non Apple PCs illegally running OSX)
[03:12] <elky> it's not illegal. it's a broken contract. we're not police.
[03:13] <Jordan_U> Fair enough.
[03:14] <elky> as always, support so long as you are comfortable.
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> It's illegal in the US, but then we're weird.
[03:32] <elky> as in you'd go to jail for running osx on a non-mac?
[03:32] <elky> or be fined?
[03:32] <elky> or be given some other court-prescribed punishment?
[03:44] <smoochict> Hi, can someone explain what this means? "ubottu: Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail"
[03:47] <tsimpson> smoochict: when you say "<something> is <something>" to ubottu, like "how much is ubuntu?", it understands that as a request to edit a factoid. in this case it interpreted "how much" as the factoid, and "ubuntu" as the response
[03:47] <tsimpson> when someone does that who doesn't have the capability to edit factoids, then it's forwarded here for review: [04:42:59] <ubottu> In #ubuntu, smoochict said: ubottu how much is ubuntu?
[03:48] <smoochict> oh ok, thanks for the explanation
[03:48] <tsimpson> we're pretty good a determining what is a genuine edit request and what was an accident, so don't worry too much about it
[03:48] <smoochict> alright
[03:58] <IdleOne> uh, how much is Ubuntu?
[04:01] <elky> Normally $60,  but for you, just $59.99
[04:03] <IdleOne> I'll take 2 please
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> elky: Could be, yeah.   I would be insulted if I was you.
[05:08]  * IdleOne steps away from the gas can
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> Not really much of a choice - I still don't qualify for Canadian immigration.
[05:10] <IdleOne> I feel I should point out that I was intentionally stirring the pot :-)
[05:11] <IdleOne> Anyway, immigration is way more complicated than most people know.
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> yup
[05:14] <elky> tonyyarusso, you did live in canada for a while, no?
[05:14] <IdleOne> he was on a student visa iirc
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> elky: Yeah, on a student visa.
[05:15] <elky> ah
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> Well, "study permit" technically, but same concept.
[05:15] <IdleOne> which btw are simple as pie to get
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> I needed a bunch of documents, but it wasn't as bad as it might have been - actually did it right at the border crossing, took under an hour.
[05:16] <IdleOne> yup, same here when I went to get it for my step son
[05:27] <bazhang> the bios partition?
[05:27] <Jordan_U> BIOS Boot Partition.
[05:27] <bazhang>  /swap /bios ?
[05:28] <bazhang> never heard that one before
[05:28] <Jordan_U> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#BIOS-installation
[05:29] <Jordan_U> Needed for reliable bootloader installation on BIOS systems using a GPT label (partition table).
[05:30] <bazhang> ok
[05:31] <tsimpson> bazhang: qtractor != qtcreator ;)
 bazhang : I am trying to compile Qtractor to do music   tsimpson he asked for qtractor
[05:31] <tsimpson> or maybe I just need coffee
[05:32] <tsimpson> yes.. I need coffee :)
[05:32] <bazhang> hah
[09:50] <Pricey> in /msg
[10:07] <Pricey> and bored
[10:08] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[10:08] <ikonia> I admire an honest assesment
[10:52] <Pricey> ikonia: I was referring to him, he /quit :
[10:52] <Pricey> P
[10:52] <ikonia> ooh
[10:52] <ikonia> I liked it better when I thought you where bored
[15:21] <bazhang> the bot lists qgis as being found in qgis. weird
[16:11] <Pici> hm?
[16:11] <bazhang>  the !find qgis returns qgis as one item
[16:12] <jussi> find qgis
[16:12] <Pici> looks like its a virtual package.
[16:12] <jussi> !find qgis
[16:12] <bazhang> yep with a !
[16:12] <Pici> N: Can't select versions from package 'qgis' as it is purely virtual
[16:13] <Pici> Sounds like a bug.
[16:13] <Pici> maybe.
[16:13] <jussi> !info qgis
[16:13] <bazhang> qgis and -common are both said not to exist in the !info
[16:33] <gcmalloc> hi I tried to have some information about why the package qgis wasn't in pangolin. Can someone give me a pointer ?
[17:00] <tsimpson> gcmalloc: see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qgis/+publishinghistory
[17:25] <Pici> !ping
[17:25] <Pici> odd
[20:06] <guntbert> hi, yesterday I submitted a bunch of edit requests to replace 10.04 references with the correct 12.04 references - Pici updated several but the rest is still open it seems
[20:06] <guntbert> in ubotu's brain
[20:08] <IdleOne> guntbert: can you list which need to be changed, just give me the factoid name
[20:08] <IdleOne> ot list one at a time and we can change them now
[20:08] <IdleOne> or*
[20:09] <guntbert> IdleOne: if look into the backlog from yesterday you will find them -I hope in already useable syntax -  a few were not quite trivial
[20:09] <guntbert> *if you :)
[20:10] <IdleOne> !time =~ s/10/12/
[20:10] <IdleOne> !mailserver =~ s/10/12/
[20:10] <IdleOne> !sshd =~ s/10/12/
[20:10] <IdleOne> !php =~ s/10/12/
[20:10] <IdleOne> any more
[20:11] <IdleOne> !mailserver
[20:12] <guntbert> !samba
[20:12] <IdleOne> !sshd
[20:12] <IdleOne> think we got them all. let me know if any got missed
[20:13] <guntbert> !codecs
[20:13] <guntbert>  !codecs ~=#10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html#12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html#
[20:15] <guntbert> !partitioning ~=#10.04/switching/C/installing-partitioning.html#12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html#
[20:16] <IdleOne> lol, now I'm confused
[20:16] <guntbert> !no automate is Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at                                            https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html - See also !cloning
[20:17] <guntbert> IdleOne: there were a few where the rest of the url changed too
[20:17] <IdleOne> !no automate is <reply> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html - See also !cloning
[20:18] <guntbert> I am not sure if she understand the regex syntax with replacing the / as delimiters by # when a / appears in the string
[20:18] <IdleOne> I have no idea to be honest
[20:19] <guntbert> how about you just try it? :)
[20:19] <IdleOne> !no codecs is <reply> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html#12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:25] <guntbert> anyway - I'll leave it to the great team :-) have a nice time
[20:26] <IdleOne> !no partitioning is <reply>  For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap
[20:28] <IdleOne> !no codecs is <reply>  For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html#  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:28] <IdleOne> That should fix it
[21:33] <tsimpson> why are we using static numbers when we have the $cur*Num variables?
[21:36] <IdleOne> Good question
[21:37] <Unit193> I'd guess because that's not always the only part that changes (see !automate)
[21:40] <tsimpson> hopefully that doesn't change every release


[00:31] <gsilvapt> Is anyone around who could help me solving an issue in sbuild? I'm getting this error in all builds: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24885745/
[00:32] <gsilvapt> I'm almost 100% sure this is related to sbuild's setup & configuration but can't figure out what
[00:52] <cjwatson> gsilvapt: building for series where gpg2 is the default inside the chroot requires bug-fixes that postdate sbuild 0.67.0 - I think you need 0.71.0
[00:53] <gsilvapt> cjwatson, thank you for replying. I found the answer here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/linux.debian.bugs.rc/3LHnM78aLZQ/5EkBoexwBQAJ
[00:53] <cjwatson> hopefully it's not too painful to backport but I haven't tried
[00:53] <gsilvapt> May have messed up something while setting up the gpg keys
[00:53] <cjwatson> ah possibly that too
[00:54] <cjwatson> but err I think that message only applies to newer sbuild versions
[00:54] <gsilvapt> No clue. I deleted those and the builds started worked normally. At least they wouldn't stop there
[00:54] <cjwatson> maybe not, that was against 0.65.2
[00:54] <cjwatson> OK, sounds like you're fine then
[20:41] <jbicha> doko: why do artful builders have both gcc-6 and gcc-7 installed?